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Are there many clinics providing antigen test in Bogota?
Is the result quick? Do you have to make appointment many days prior?
Thanks.Here you go: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4155-Colombia-Travel-Coronavirus-Updates&p=2528728&viewfull=1#post2528728.
Has anyone tried any of the university chicas on Twitter? I am seeing more and more. I know other places like CDMX is where the chicas use Twitter, but never really heard anything about it in Colombia.Do you have a sample link? I will be in Bogota tomorrow and I can check it out for you.
Are there many clinics providing antigen test in Bogota?
Is the result quick? Do you have to make appointment many days prior?
Thanks.https://www.coronapass.com.co/
Drive inn Antigen test 150 000 pesos result in 10 minutes, different locations: calle 90 #19C-25, Carerra 5 #70-51 and Calle 116 #18-89. Best is to make an appointment before through their site, else thraight away on site.
Has anyone tried any of the university chicas on Twitter? I am seeing more and more. I know other places like CDMX is where the chicas use Twitter, but never really heard anything about it in Colombia.If you mean pros, yes, a lot of pros advertise on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and also Tinder. Just start to search Prepago Bogota, then browse through the friends and followers. Don't fool yourself believing they are amateur because you met them on social media, the profiles are explicit enough.
Mr Enternational
02-19-21, 15:02
Don't fool yourself believing they are amateur because you met them on social media,Too late! What thrill is it in finding a chick that is new to being a hooker anyway? Nobody wants a new lawyer or new doctor, but it seems many want a new hooker.
World Travel 69
02-19-21, 16:10
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists
Just went to look up some great map I found to share it with you guys because sportsfan mentioned he didn't know a lot of places to go and I can't find it anymore. I think the website was mapadeamor or something like that. I found like a month ago it by googling "Bogota burdel mapa" LOL. Dang it was really good, had lots of links and stuff. I know there's a map here that's really good too but I think this one was more up to date. Anyone know which one I'm talking about? I'm waiting to be approved to foro prepagos Colombia because I know they have a map too but it's only viewable for members.
Wow, three back to back posts by Routard and World Traveller 69, the two stalwarts of ISG. Two thumbs up for the Bogota thread!
MistaDynamite
02-20-21, 15:15
When did you got there? It is supposedly closed at the moment?
Just curious as I am in Bogota.I just left this past Tuesday. In fact as I was walking out one morning for breakfast to see the morning shift per others poster' suggestions along the way I passed by there. The music was cranking at 7:30 in the morning and they were trying to get me in there LOL.
MistaDynamite
02-20-21, 15:20
Vaccines arrived from the US in Bogota this past Monday. They will be issued in Bogota, Medellin, Cartagena, and Barranquilla from what I remember.
MistaDynamite
02-20-21, 15:34
Yes, Atonis is so fun. As I have written before-- Atonis is my favorite bar- So wonderfully sleazy- I love the girls there-.
They get the hot new girls. I love it when there are a bunch of hot girls to pick from. You can get harcore lapdances for $5.
I have a special girl there who shall remain nameless as she is busy enough and I don't like it-.
*Nothing I can do about that-- But I will not facilitate, even though that is what I'm doing here I suppose.
*She is a 20 yo 5 ft sex bomb with natural double the boobs-- Beautiful face and fun attitude-- Looks like a Hot college co-ed *And we get a long great. She likes my dick a lot too-- She says I have a big big gringo dick-- Which I have heard from other girls-- Which leads me to believe that guys around here must be small as I'm sorta average but a better average.
Another great bar is Venus for the same reasons, also La Casona is another. Of course when things are happening all the clubs are good.
I have some funny stories I must recount later. I'm just so frigging busy working on line that it's hard to take the time.I did hit both Venus and La Casona. I liked both of them too. Nice variety is terms of heights, skins tone, thickness in a the ass and tits dept. BTW I hate I didn't get to hang with you and Kazeu. Long story short I didn't fully understand Bitcoin transaction fees aka mining. While I had enough money in my wallet once they added the mining fee I would no longer have enough in my wallet to pay the subscription fee. So frustrating after waiting for the money to finally hit my coinbase acct from my bank. The admins may want to include this info in the subscription section so folks can plan accordingly.
MistaDynamite
02-20-21, 15:41
You will have a complete description of Bogota's swinger scene in my Bogota FAQ:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=2241562&viewfull=1#post2241562.
The report is from before Covid however. Most swinger clubs are open again, but expect a slow atmosphere.Thanks again Routard. I did try to hit Jesus and Aldie (I'm sure this is misspelled) about a week ago on what I thought was couples and singles night. Unfortunately it was couples only night and the woman working there said to come back the next day at 5 PM. Even more unfortunate they wouldn't let me have a courtesy peek to see if I wanted to come back LOL.
Has anyone tried any of the university chicas on Twitter? I am seeing more and more. I know other places like CDMX is where the chicas use Twitter, but never really heard anything about it in Colombia.If you're trying to meet amateurs or girls that blur the lines between hookers and golddiggers, you might want to try seeking.com, a lot of people are talking about it over on the Colomian forum. You can make an account and check it out for free but It's 99 USD a month to message the girls. Apparently a lot of chicks will message you and a lot of them are asking for something in the 200,000 pesos range for several hours with a young university chica. I'm thinking about buying one month a week or 2 before my trip so I can have some options lined up when I arrive. It's clever, it's a way for girls to pimp themselves while simultaneously pretending they're not hookers. I think the main reason escort apps will never take off is because so many girls hate acknowledging what they're doing. This website on the other hand seems to be extremely active, unless lots of the profiles are fake, which is possible.
Also should mention the map on the Colombian forum is nowhere near as good as the one on this site. Never ended up finding that mapadeamor one I lost but I realized the map on this site is basically identical. I found the main place I was looking for on it, Gisell Barra aka place that just says "playboy models" LOL. Those girls look so hot I would happily do a line of scopalamine if they asked me to.
Prelude141
02-20-21, 17:59
Wow, three back to back posts by Routard and World Traveller 69, the two stalwarts of ISG. Two thumbs up for the Bogota thread!On the other side I'm concerned to see the threads about Colombia so active. It's becoming a trendy destination for sex tourism and this will lead the market to more professional behaviors and price increase. I'm concerned that Colombia become the new Thailand and Thailand has been down hill since 10 to 15 years for this activity both regarding behaviors and prices because invaded by tourism. A good destination for this activity is where the market is local eg cheap and with amateurs to semi pro, tourism transform very quickly in a bad way the market. Medellin and Cartagena on their way to reach this situation, Bogota not yet as poorly attractive for pure tourism but this will probably come.
Frank Lucas
02-20-21, 20:07
On the other side I'm concerned to see the threads about Colombia so active. It's becoming a trendy destination for sex tourism and this will lead the market to more professional behaviors and price increase. I'm concerned that Colombia become the new Thailand and Thailand has been down hill since 10 to 15 years for this activity both regarding behaviors and prices because invaded by tourism. A good destination for this activity is where the market is local eg cheap and with amateurs to semi pro, tourism transform very quickly in a bad way the market. Medellin and Cartagena on their way to reach this situation, Bogota not yet as poorly attractive for pure tourism but this will probably come.Do you think the language difference will slow down this transformation? Thai girls speak English but not a lot of the Colombian ladies speak English.
Mr Enternational
02-20-21, 20:27
Do you think the language difference will slow down this transformation? Thai girls speak English but not a lot of the Colombian ladies speak English.It did not stop anything in Brazil, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic.
Frank Lucas
02-20-21, 22:28
It did not stop anything in Brazil, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic.Damn, I guess I better get back there and enjoy while I can. Great point Mr. E. Would you agree that those that can speak Spanish may do better when the times change?
BigButtDetecto
02-20-21, 22:40
On the other side I'm concerned to see the threads about Colombia so active. It's becoming a trendy destination for sex tourism and this will lead the market to more professional behaviors and price increase. I'm concerned that Colombia become the new Thailand and Thailand has been down hill since 10 to 15 years for this activity both regarding behaviors and prices because invaded by tourism. A good destination for this activity is where the market is local eg cheap and with amateurs to semi pro, tourism transform very quickly in a bad way the market. Medellin and Cartagena on their way to reach this situation, Bogota not yet as poorly attractive for pure tourism but this will probably come.I agree. Please do not advertize too much about Colombia. Tell people to go to Hawai!
Mr Enternational
02-20-21, 23:04
Damn, I guess I better get back there and enjoy while I can. Great point Mr. E. Would you agree that those that can speak Spanish may do better when the times change?Better as far as what? If you are looking for chicks to pay then I do not think it makes a difference whether you speak the language or not. If you are looking for normal chicks then I think it makes a huge difference although not impossible. I have not always spoke Spanish, Portuguese, and Thai, but have always been able to pick up normal chicks despite then having language barriers.
Is there any hotel in Bogota that doesn't check ID of my female guest?
MistaDynamite
02-21-21, 13:59
Too late! What thrill is it in finding a chick that is new to being a hooker anyway? Nobody wants a new lawyer or new doctor, but it seems many want a new hooker.LMAO Mr. E you ain't lying. Maybe it's like a new car. Nothing beats a new hooker smell.
MistaDynamite
02-21-21, 14:29
Analizer Laboratories has several locations in Bogota. They are quick and will email you the results in English or Spanish. There was one location that was a 5 minute walk from my AirBnB. Stopped by on a Saturday morning before my returning flight on a Tuesday. Unfortunately they don't perform the test at their location. However, they did help me set up an appt at another location for Monday. They assured me I would have my results before my flight. I took an Uber and arrived at the other lab Monday at 7 am. They checked my passport and gave me the test. I was there probably a total of 15 minutes. I got my results at 2:30 am Tuesday morning. I did have to try several times to download the pdf into my phone. Verify accepted to PDF.
Several things to know.
They speak only Spanish at the Laboratory. So know some Spanish or have a working translator app. I've practiced enough Duolingo and listened to News In Slow Spanish podcasts and was able to pick up on enough words to know what they were saying and asking for.
Have your passport.
Have your flight info (either the physical ticket, email, or airline app) for them to see. In the case of my AA app they wanted a screenshot of my flight info emailed. I didn't have Internet. Fortunately, the lady working there was quick on her feet and took a screenshot from her phone and emailed it for me.
They're closed on Sundays.
Stop by in advanced even before your 72-96 hour window starts in case you can't do a walk in or have to go to another location.
Better as far as what? If you are looking for chicks to pay then I do not think it makes a difference whether you speak the language or not. If you are looking for normal chicks then I think it makes a huge difference although not impossible. I have not always spoke Spanish, Portuguese, and Thai, but have always been able to pick up normal chicks despite then having language barriers.I respectfully disagree with you. Even when paying for chicas, if you can't communicate with the girl, you're never going to have that connection that makes some sessions stand out from others. Of course there are always exceptions, there may just be some sort of physical chemistry that you have with a girl that transcends verbal communication, but how often does that happen. Most of the time, meeting a girl for the first time to have sex is not a straightforward or comfortable situation, especially for a girl. Talking to a girl goes a long way.
If all you ever expect is robotic sex, then sure, you won't have any problems without Spanish.
On the other side I'm concerned to see the threads about Colombia so active. It's becoming a trendy destination for sex tourism and this will lead the market to more professional behaviors and price increase. I'm concerned that Colombia become the new Thailand and Thailand has been down hill since 10 to 15 years for this activity both regarding behaviors and prices because invaded by tourism. A good destination for this activity is where the market is local eg cheap and with amateurs to semi pro, tourism transform very quickly in a bad way the market. Medellin and Cartagena on their way to reach this situation, Bogota not yet as poorly attractive for pure tourism but this will probably come.I've pretty much conceded that Colombia will eventually turn into the Thailand of the south america and head down the of places like Costa Rica. Just enjoy it while you can. The irony, is that its boards like this that contribute to the downfall. So much attention and people posting about all their experiences. Its kind of like how instagram has completely ruined certain places for travel. I'm old enough to remember that you used to go to places and experience what they were actually like vs experiencing the tourism of the place. There are places in the world that I have no desire to ever go to anymore after the instagram / facebook tourism boom. Fighting my way through hoards of tourists does not sound like a fun way to spend a vacation.
Theres a way to fight upward pricing. Just like theres a way to fight downward pricing. Its called collusion. Girls do it. Mongers should do it too, but I don't think theres enough will for that to ever happen. Most people don't really care if prices go up 200 or 300 percent, they've already come down, spent there weekend millionare money and gotten theirs. Its not a lifestyle to them, they don't live it. They *experience* it. The smart thing to do would be to not engage weekend millionaires. Let them find out information on their own.
Sessioned with a girl in Santa Fe. Her name is Nicole. She usually works right across from Troya on the King Shwarma side. Great ass, and great smile on this girl. She's had a kid, but I took a chance seeing as not much else caught my attention in Santa Fe that day. Attitude was great. She's got a boyfriend too. Doesn't' kiss, which was a bumber, not many girls these days in SF give DFK. Right before we started getting down to business, she pulls out this tube of something. She called it lubrication, but I've seen lubrication before. All kinds. KY, Fisio, Skin lotion. This was none of those things. She pushed it into her pussy and while I was doing her doggie, I could see white clumps of it. After the session I got a chance to look at the tube. I forget the spelling, something like "Cortimizol". I'm no doctor, but I'm pretty sure it was some sort of steroid. I asked her why she doesn't use KY or something, she said if she doesn't use it her pussy gets enflamed from fucking too many guys. I tried to tell her that it probably wasn't a good idea for her to be using that all the time, but I'm not sure if I got through to her. Anyways, I didn't even want that stuff on my dick. She was using quite a bit of it. If it wasn't' for the steroid lube I would probably repeat with her.
The other thing that I noticed is that some girls fuck with tampons. I had 2 sessions last week where the girl had a tampon in her pussy. You would think you would feel it but I guess not. One girl said she always has a tampon in there. Who knows why.
Regarding the 11 pm shutdown. I was in Zona Rosa last night. Was drinking with some friends. They were telling me that everything closes at 11 pm, but we were going to find a place to go dance. We went out onto Calle 85 and some guy approached us and told us they were open until 7 am. He let us into this club on the third floor. Where we partied and danced until 1 am. When we left, the door was closed, I'm sure to avoid attention from cops. Everything was very much Santa Fe style. People trying to get you into clubs that shouldn't be open. Closed doors, checking for cops. The city is still very much alive. Corona or not, people got to party.
I have to say I hadn't been out with normal people for a while. LOL. Not saying mongers are abnormal. Hahaha. But you know, I hadn't been to a club where girls don't want me to pay them for sex in a while. It was quite refreshing to see exactly how gorgeous colombians really are. Take a stroll around Zona Rosa on a Friday or Saturday night and enjoy the sights. Then come back and tell me that you saw a 9 or 10 in Santa Fe.
MarquisdeSade1
02-21-21, 18:22
The smart thing to do would be to not engage weekend millionaires. Let them find out information on their own.Mortal enemies within our midst, I'm sure we all know whom you are thinking of.
Prelude141
02-21-21, 20:31
Use of tampon is probably to prevent semen from inseminating them if the condom breaks or if one removes the condom suddenly to try to come inside (I have been told by some girls that some customers try that manœuvrer).
At Kazeu, this was the ointment in your report: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clotrimazole.
The other thing that I noticed is that some girls fuck with tampons. I had 2 sessions last week where the girl had a tampon in her pussy. You would think you would feel it but I guess not. One girl said she always has a tampon in there. Who knows why.Why? So they don't lose any working time due to menstrual cycle.
I've pretty much conceded that Colombia will eventually turn into the Thailand of the south america and head down the of places like Costa Rica. Just enjoy it while you can. The irony, is that its boards like this that contribute to the downfall. So much attention and people posting about all their experiences. Its kind of like how instagram has completely ruined certain places for travel. I'm old enough to remember that you used to go to places and experience what they were actually like vs experiencing the tourism of the place. There are places in the world that I have no desire to ever go to anymore after the instagram / facebook tourism boom. Fighting my way through hoards of tourists does not sound like a fun way to spend a vacation.
Theres a way to fight upward pricing. Just like theres a way to fight downward pricing. Its called collusion. Girls do it. Mongers should do it too, but I don't think theres enough will for that to ever happen. Most people don't really care if prices go up 200 or 300 percent, they've already come down, spent there weekend millionare money and gotten theirs. Its not a lifestyle to them, they don't live it. They *experience* it. The smart thing to do would be to not engage weekend millionaires. Let them find out information on their own.That girls don't collude as much as we think they do. Sure, if their prepago friends are within hearing distance, they'll stick to a standard asking price. But if you're talking with them in private, that all goes out the window. Of course they'll never admit to their friends that they accepted a lower price. In fact they'll frequently brag (lie) about how much guys give them.
For example, in Medellin in the Mansion, I've had several times where I've given chicas less than the standard rate (usually because I only had so much cash on me). The girls always make me swear I won't tell anyone else what I paid.
LatinaLover#1
02-22-21, 03:03
I've pretty much conceded that Colombia will eventually turn into the Thailand of the south america and head down the of places like Costa Rica. Just enjoy it while you can. The irony, is that its boards like this that contribute to the downfall. So much attention and people posting about all their experiences. Its kind of like how instagram has completely ruined certain places for travel. I'm old enough to remember that you used to go to places and experience what they were actually like vs experiencing the tourism of the place. There are places in the world that I have no desire to ever go to anymore after the instagram / facebook tourism boom. Fighting my way through hoards of tourists does not sound like a fun way to spend a vacation.
Theres a way to fight upward pricing. Just like theres a way to fight downward pricing. Its called collusion. Girls do it. Mongers should do it too, but I don't think theres enough will for that to ever happen. Most people don't really care if prices go up 200 or 300 percent, they've already come down, spent there weekend millionare money and gotten theirs. Its not a lifestyle to them, they don't live it. They *experience* it. The smart thing to do would be to not engage weekend millionaires. Let them find out information on their own.Back in the 90's there was a little place called Costa Rica, the Del Rey was full of Ticas, no Colombians, no Dominicanas, only Ticas that would fuck all 3 of us for $25. A giant lobster dinner with a few JW blacks served on the beach in Brasilito, Guanacaste for $15 bucks. Brazil, Copacabana, my pick out of dozens Brasileras, T. A, Help, Dirt cheap Termas. Peru, Miraflores. Casinos, Tequila Rock, Parque Kennedy, Pizza alley where you could take a regular girl working at any one of the restaurants for girlfriend sex for a few Soles. My point is I've seen a lot of changes over the years and not for the better. Guys will go to Bogota and give a girl $400"because she is model beautiful" jaja and she will think every gringo should pay that. It only takes one to overpay and for her to spread the word to fuck up the whole deal. Or the stupid gringo who thinks he's going to change some prepagos life and take care of her. Thing is, when this gringo pendejo is falling in love he is falling in love by himself. So the beat goes on and you can't go home again.
On the other side I'm concerned to see the threads about Colombia so active. It's becoming a trendy destination for sex tourism and this will lead the market to more professional behaviors and price increase. I'm concerned that Colombia become the new Thailand and Thailand has been down hill since 10 to 15 years for this activity both regarding behaviors and prices because invaded by tourism. A good destination for this activity is where the market is local eg cheap and with amateurs to semi pro, tourism transform very quickly in a bad way the market. Medellin and Cartagena on their way to reach this situation, Bogota not yet as poorly attractive for pure tourism but this will probably come.I posted about that some weeks ago. It cannot be stopped. Right now Colombia is receiving lots of attention for mongering activities worldwide because of how accommodating it is during this pandemic. Post covid it would be a major mongering destination as people who did not know about it pre pandemic get to be aware of its delights of the flesh. The hoards are coming and we can do nothing about it.
I posted about that some weeks ago. It cannot be stopped. Right now Colombia is receiving lots of attention for mongering activities worldwide because of how accommodating it is during this pandemic. Post covid it would be a major mongering destination as people who did not know about it pre pandemic get to be aware of its delights of the flesh. The hoards are coming and we can do nothing about it.I agree with you that it cannot be stopped. But I would hope that it could be slowed down.
That girls don't collude as much as we think they do. Well then that's good for us. Maybe we have it better than we think. That doesn't mean men shouldn't collude though.
One thing that I've mentioned in the past that usually doesn't get much attention, in fact I think I got some backlash for stating it, because you know, people want to pay what they want to pay the way they want to pay it. And they're always right. If you want to give a girl extra or more than the going rate. Just give the damn money to her. Don't associate it with sex. Then you really are just being a good guy. And they don't expect to get that payment everytime they screw someone. Its just *you* being a schmuck. Pay her the going rate for the sex. And then the next time you see her, give her 100 USD or 300 USD or whatever you feel like, out of the goodness of your heart.
At Kazeu, this was the ointment in your report: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clotrimazole.Thanks Questner. Much appreciated. Now the question is, is it bad for mongers? Briefly reading the description makes it seem like its not too dangerous for the chica.
Mr Enternational
02-22-21, 19:31
she pulls out this tube of something. She called it lubrication, but I've seen lubrication before. All kinds. KY, Fisio, Skin lotion. This was none of those things. She pushed it into her pussy and while I was doing her doggie, I could see white clumps of it. After the session I got a chance to look at the tube. I forget the spelling, something like "Cortimizol".In the termas in Brazil a lot of the girls use a numbing/pain relief creme with some kind of caine in it as well.
Sessioned with a girl in Santa Fe. Her name is Nicole. She usually works right across from Troya on the King Shwarma side. Great ass, and great smile on this girl. She's had a kid, but I took a chance seeing as not much else caught my attention in Santa Fe that day. Attitude was great. She's got a boyfriend too. Doesn't' kiss, which was a bumber, not many girls these days in SF give DFK. Right before we started getting down to business, she pulls out this tube of something. She called it lubrication, but I've seen lubrication before. All kinds. KY, Fisio, Skin lotion. This was none of those things. She pushed it into her pussy and while I was doing her doggie, I could see white clumps of it. After the session I got a chance to look at the tube. I forget the spelling, something like "Cortimizol". I'm no doctor, but I'm pretty sure it was some sort of steroid. I asked her why she doesn't use KY or something, she said if she doesn't use it her pussy gets enflamed from fucking too many guys. I tried to tell her that it probably wasn't a good idea for her to be using that all the time, but I'm not sure if I got through to her. Anyways, I didn't even want that stuff on my dick. She was using quite a bit of it. If it wasn't' for the steroid lube I would probably repeat with her.
The other thing that I noticed is that some girls fuck with tampons. I had 2 sessions last week where the girl had a tampon in her pussy. You would think you would feel it but I guess not. One girl said she always has a tampon in there. Who knows why.
Regarding the 11 pm shutdown. I was in Zona Rosa last night. Was drinking with some friends. They were telling me that everything closes at 11 pm, but we were going to find a place to go dance. We went out onto Calle 85 and some guy approached us and told us they were open until 7 am. He let us into this club on the third floor. Where we partied and danced until 1 am. When we left, the door was closed, I'm sure to avoid attention from cops. Everything was very much Santa Fe style. People trying to get you into clubs that shouldn't be open. Closed doors, checking for cops. The city is still very much alive. Corona or not, people got to party.
I have to say I hadn't been out with normal people for a while. LOL. Not saying mongers are abnormal. Hahaha. But you know, I hadn't been to a club where girls don't want me to pay them for sex in a while. It was quite refreshing to see exactly how gorgeous colombians really are. Take a stroll around Zona Rosa on a Friday or Saturday night and enjoy the sights. Then come back and tell me that you saw a 9 or 10 in Santa Fe.The cream "Cortimizol" that you are talking about is probably clotrimazol (Clotrimazole) and is an antifungal (antimycotic). For some reason there is lots of advertisement in Colombia about antifungal creams for the vagina that contains Clotrimazole 1%. Many sexworkers use it because they think they have fungi in their vaginas when actually what they have is a sore vagina due to over use. Instead of the antifungal they should just be using a good quality lubricant like ky, but they think they know better because the pharmacist in the corner drugstore told them to use the anti-fungal cream. Off course when they use too much of it the fungi actually becomes resistant to the Clotrimazole. Besides, the excipient is by no means a lubricant, the excipient is for the cream to stay in the skin (or in the vagina's tissue in this case) so they would get probably more sore when using this cream before having sex.
They do not really use tampons because they are too big or too hard and might scratch the tip of the customer's penis. What they use is a piece of folded toilet paper that they insert in their vaginas so that they don't have to stop working when they have their menstrual periods. The folded toilet paper prevents the blood from coming out just as a tampon but removing it requires some skill because they need to squat and push to remove it. Please don't ask how I know this haha.
In the termas in Brazil a lot of the girls use a numbing/pain relief creme with some kind of caine in it as well.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidocaine
KY plus lidocaine; you can buy in a pharmacy in Brazil.
Thanks Questner. Much appreciated. Now the question is, is it bad for mongers? Briefly reading the description makes it seem like its not too dangerous for the chica.No, no danger. I used to have it always on my trips, but then changed it for this one, more effective: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terbinafine.
Pussycat123
02-23-21, 09:51
The cream "Cortimizol" that you are talking about is probably clotrimazol (Clotrimazole) and is an antifungal (antimycotic). For some reason there is lots of advertisement in Colombia about antifungal creams for the vagina that contains Clotrimazole 1%. Many sexworkers use it because they think they have fungi in their vaginas when actually what they have is a sore vagina due to over use. Instead of the antifungal they should just be using a good quality lubricant like ky, but they think they know better because the pharmacist in the corner drugstore told them to use the anti-fungal cream. Off course when they use too much of it the fungi actually becomes resistant to the Clotrimazole. Besides, the excipient is by no means a lubricant, the excipient is for the cream to stay in the skin (or in the vagina's tissue in this case) so they would get probably more sore when using this cream before having sex.
They do not really use tampons because they are too big or too hard and might scratch the tip of the customer's penis. What they use is a piece of folded toilet paper that they insert in their vaginas so that they don't have to stop working when they have their menstrual periods. The folded toilet paper prevents the blood from coming out just as a tampon but removing it requires some skill because they need to squat and push to remove it. Please don't ask how I know this haha.Clotrimazole 1%, yup, the same stuff they sell in Walmart for athletes foot and jock itch. Generic anti fungal medication. Also sold as a vaginal suppository.
I sessioned with Sophia the other day, who I always pass by and told myself that I would try one day. She usually works in on Carrera 15 across from La Piscina but a bit more toward the southern end of the block. You can identify her by her leopard pattern tattoo on her right shoulder. The best thing about this girl is her ass. Her face is only passable. She claims she's 26 but I'd peg her more at around 30. When you get close you can see she wears a lot of makeup. Anyways, inside the room, she's friendly but robotic, you can tell she's been doing this for a long time. Her skin is like milky butter. Exquisite. I don't know what she does with it, but it is super smooth. She sat me down at the edge of the bed and gave me an enthusiastic covered blowjob after which she positioned herself at the edge of the bed in doggie style. Man what a view. Doing her doggie, with her ass just bouncing against your hips is what god intended sex to be like. Sex was pretty quick and mechanical, but it was worth it. 40 k.
Face: 6.
Body: 8. 5.
Attitude: 7.
Would I Repeat: yes. Good as a backup option any day.
ReignSupreme01
02-25-21, 20:10
Well then that's good for us. Maybe we have it better than we think. That doesn't mean men shouldn't collude though.
One thing that I've mentioned in the past that usually doesn't get much attention, in fact I think I got some backlash for stating it, because you know, people want to pay what they want to pay the way they want to pay it. And they're always right. If you want to give a girl extra or more than the going rate. Just give the damn money to her. Don't associate it with sex. Then you really are just being a good guy. And they don't expect to get that payment everytime they screw someone. Its just *you* being a schmuck. Pay her the going rate for the sex. And then the next time you see her, give her 100 USD or 300 USD or whatever you feel like, out of the goodness of your heart.Hi guys,
Been lurking for a while (thanks for the resource).
As some other posters have mentioned, I think Colombia is about to become huge. It's already very much on the traveller cool list, it's beautiful, couple that with ridiculously cheap, ridiculously good looking pussy? It's the beginning of the end as you know it for sure fellas. This whole mindset of keeping the market rate and how defensive guys are about it blows my mind. What you're essentially saying is, it's better for your pocket if the girls stay poor. I look up the market rate, and I'll keep it in mind but this whole colluding to keep prices low? You wonder why the left wing say the world is full of fat, middle aged white men rigging the game for themselves? Case and point.
The truth is the world will evolve, one day these girls will the preserve of the relatively well off (just like western world where you pay top £$€). Enjoy it while you can. Find the places you still get pussy for cheap. Feeling you have a right to sleep with 20 year girls for a price you think is sufficient is rubbish.
I'm looking forward to visiting Colombia towards the end of the year. Expecting competition to be stiff.
Clotrimazole 1%, yup, the same stuff they sell in Walmart for athletes foot and jock itch. Generic anti fungal medication. Also sold as a vaginal suppository.There was a vaginal lubricant (forget the name) long time ago which had some anti fungal creme. Lots of girls used it. This was before general use of condom. Maybe girls always thought they had yeast infection when they smelled something and had an discharge. Nobody went and got tested. Later scientists came up with chlamydia, very distinct from yeast infection or candidiasis.
Mr Enternational
02-26-21, 04:12
This whole mindset of keeping the market rate and how defensive guys are about it blows my mind. What you're essentially saying is, it's better for your pocket if the girls stay poor.Uhh if the girls were not poor then they would not need to be hookers.
Hi guys,
Been lurking for a while (thanks for the resource).
As some other posters have mentioned, I think Colombia is about to become huge. It's already very much on the traveller cool list, it's beautiful, couple that with ridiculously cheap, ridiculously good looking pussy? It's the beginning of the end as you know it for sure fellas. This whole mindset of keeping the market rate and how defensive guys are about it blows my mind. What you're essentially saying is, it's better for your pocket if the girls stay poor. I look up the market rate, and I'll keep it in mind but this whole colluding to keep prices low? You wonder why the left wing say the world is full of fat, middle aged white men rigging the game for themselves? Case and point.
The truth is the world will evolve, one day these girls will the preserve of the relatively well off (just like western world where you pay top $). Enjoy it while you can. Find the places you still get pussy for cheap. Feeling you have a right to sleep with 20 year girls for a price you think is sufficient is rubbish.
I'm looking forward to visiting Colombia towards the end of the year. Expecting competition to be stiff.Where did I ever say I had the right to anything? I stated what might help keep prices down, which would would help everyone.
From a mongering perspective its definitely better for mongering if the girls stay poor. If the country stays poor.
You're right, its probably too late. But I will do my part and stop posting here. I've been posting out of gratitude for all the board has given me over the years.
I'm out. Enjoy.
MongerHunger
02-26-21, 06:57
Hi guys,
Been lurking for a while (thanks for the resource).
As some other posters have mentioned, I think Colombia is about to become huge. It's already very much on the traveller cool list, it's beautiful, couple that with ridiculously cheap, ridiculously good looking pussy? It's the beginning of the end as you know it for sure fellas. This whole mindset of keeping the market rate and how defensive guys are about it blows my mind. What you're essentially saying is, it's better for your pocket if the girls stay poor. I look up the market rate, and I'll keep it in mind but this whole colluding to keep prices low? You wonder why the left wing say the world is full of fat, middle aged white men rigging the game for themselves? Case and point.
The truth is the world will evolve, one day these girls will the preserve of the relatively well off (just like western world where you pay top $). Enjoy it while you can. Find the places you still get pussy for cheap. Feeling you have a right to sleep with 20 year girls for a price you think is sufficient is rubbish.
I'm looking forward to visiting Colombia towards the end of the year. Expecting competition to be stiff.I have never been the one to pay higher prices for something that I can get for lower that is the same or equivalent. That goes for anything. Why would you pay full price for same thing that you can get on sale?
ReignSupreme01
02-26-21, 09:19
Where did I ever say I had the right to anything? I stated what might help keep prices down, which would would help everyone.
From a mongering perspective its definitely better for mongering if the girls stay poor. If the country stays poor.
You're right, its probably too late. But I will do my part and stop posting here. I've been posting out of gratitude for all the board has given me over the years.
I'm out. Enjoy.From a mongering perspective it is 100% better, and we all enjoy the economic imbalance that exists. I'm just saying the conversation around colluding to keep it that way is a harsh one. It's one thing hoping Colombia is still cheap, and another to actively form a movement online to ensure it stays that way for you. Doesn't mean I don't hope the opportunity remains for us all. Also, I can see the point you're making re: association of extra funds.
ISG does accelerate awareness, but people are chatting about where to get pussy everywhere.
The horse has far from bolted and the opportunity remains. I think in the next 10 years we will see a steady influx, in a similar way to Thailand years ago but we're still a way off that. Post covid will be the roaring 20's, I suggest we enjoy it.
ReignSupreme01
02-26-21, 12:15
I've pretty much conceded that Colombia will eventually turn into the Thailand of the south america and head down the of places like Costa Rica. Just enjoy it while you can. The irony, is that its boards like this that contribute to the downfall. So much attention and people posting about all their experiences. Its kind of like how instagram has completely ruined certain places for travel. I'm old enough to remember that you used to go to places and experience what they were actually like vs experiencing the tourism of the place. There are places in the world that I have no desire to ever go to anymore after the instagram / facebook tourism boom. Fighting my way through hoards of tourists does not sound like a fun way to spend a vacation.
Theres a way to fight upward pricing. Just like theres a way to fight downward pricing. Its called collusion. Girls do it. Mongers should do it too, but I don't think theres enough will for that to ever happen. Most people don't really care if prices go up 200 or 300 percent, they've already come down, spent there weekend millionare money and gotten theirs. Its not a lifestyle to them, they don't live it. They *experience* it. The smart thing to do would be to not engage weekend millionaires. Let them find out information on their own.This is a pretty accurate assessment in my opinion. And as you said you can't stop evolution, Thailand is a great example. I get it's annoying but the notion the weekenders are spoiling it, for who? Just us. Everyone else wins. For that reason it's inevitable. Doesn't mean you can't still live the lifestyle, but it will change over time.
I'm probably somewhat younger than many on here. I would have loved to explore the world 30 years ago, before the gringos and farangs were everywhere, but it is what it is. I guess we can be happy in knowledge we experienced the glory days to some extent! I would bet if we look back in 20 years, we'll consider now to be exactly that.
I imagine tips to find these gems will become harder to find as mongers protect their shrinking patch. Supply and demand my friends.
ReignSupreme01
02-26-21, 14:07
Uhh if the girls were not poor then they would not need to be hookers.That's not strictly true though is it. There would still be hookers, in every country, look at the developed world. There are (and always will be) girls selling pussy. Whether they're poor enough to sell it for the price you want to pay, that's a different matter.
I think the facts are (whether we like it or not), the world is getting smaller, new mongers are being minted daily, income streams are becoming available online (onlyfans, webcam growing). The list goes on, and adds up.
Colombia's lax entry policy during the pandemic made it front and centre for sex tourism. The good news is it's the beginning of the Thailand effect. Many more years of fun to be had, at a reasonable rate. Having said that, I expect bigger crowds year on year.
...From a mongering perspective its definitely better for mongering if the girls stay poor. If the country stays poor.....That is completely inferior thinking. The countries where it is worst for mongering are the world's poorest countries. Have you tried to monger in the poorest sub-Saharan African countries. The mongering in sub-Saharan Africa is better in the richer countries like South Africa and Kenya than the poorer countries. Same in the Middle East Dubai is the best mongering in the middle east. The poorest countries in the middle east are Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria. Lets go to Asia. The poorest countries in Asia are North Korea, Nepal, East Timor, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Myanmar. Have you been to an FKK in Germany? The poorest countries in Europe are Moldovia, Kosovo, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, North Macedonia, Serbia Belarus, Montenegro - who mongers in those countries? Mongers prefer the Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland and even the UK. In the Americas who mongers in Honduras, Venezuela, Bolivia, Guyana, Suriname, Belize, Haiti. In the Americas mongers go to the wealthier countries like Panama, Colombia, Costa Rica and Brazil.
This whole mindset of keeping the market rate and how defensive guys are about it blows my mind. What you're essentially saying is, it's better for your pocket if the girls stay poor. I look up the market rate, and I'll keep it in mind but this whole colluding to keep prices low? You wonder why the left wing say the world is full of fat, middle aged white men rigging the game for themselves? Case and point.
The truth is the world will evolve, one day these girls will the preserve of the relatively well off (just like western world where you pay top $). Enjoy it while you can. Find the places you still get pussy for cheap. Feeling you have a right to sleep with 20 year girls for a price you think is sufficient is rubbish.
I'm looking forward to visiting Colombia towards the end of the year. Expecting competition to be stiff.I totally agree. If prices go up it's better to just try and be happy for the locals at your own expense. I made a post like this in general by accident meaning to post it here.
But I think it might not blow up as bad and as fast as everyone is saying. I noticed that Brazil's Real has weakened significantly against the dollar a lot more so than the Colombian Peso, so that will affect a lot of peoples decision to go there. You said that Colombia has become a "cool" vacation destination but I don't know if that's the same demographic as us. In other words, someone going to appreciate the architecture isn't going to inflate the price of the girls. Overall, I think the industry will grow and flourish comfortably to adapt to any increased demand without prices going up too much, at least for a little while. I'm curious as to just why people think it's going to blow up so fast other than just premonition. From what I can tell, it's been the way it is for a while, so why now?
That is completely inferior thinking. The countries where it is worst for mongering are the world's poorest countries. Have you tried to monger in the poorest sub-Saharan African countries. The mongering in sub-Saharan Africa is better in the richer countries like South Africa and Kenya than the poorer countries. Same in the Middle East Dubai is the best mongering in the middle east. The poorest countries in the middle east are Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria. Lets go to Asia. The poorest countries in Asia are North Korea, Nepal, East Timor, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Myanmar. Have you been to an FKK in Germany? The poorest countries in Europe are Moldovia, Kosovo, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, North Macedonia, Serbia Belarus, Montenegro - who mongers in those countries? Mongers prefer the Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland and even the UK. In the Americas who mongers in Honduras, Venezuela, Bolivia, Guyana, Suriname, Belize, Haiti. In the Americas mongers go to the wealthier countries like Panama, Colombia, Costa Rica and Brazil.Obviously the poorest countries don't have the infrastructure to set up a good scene. If we were talking about overall quality of establishments and girls regardless of how much you're willing to spend, then yeah, German FKK clubs would be a top contender. But Everyone knows Europe is an expensive place to monger and if you try to save money you will have extremely mechanical experiences most places. I've had a couple good experiences in Spain for under 100 euros and Germany I had some good value yet still mechanical services, and I've had some great experiences for 100-150 euros. Some girls at FKK clubs will ask for like 400 euros and that's basically GF experience price for an hour or 2. Way too much IMO especially now that I've been to South America. But if I ever become a multi millionaire I'll move to Germany.
ReignSupreme01
02-26-21, 15:50
I have never been the one to pay higher prices for something that I can get for lower that is the same or equivalent. That goes for anything. Why would you pay full price for same thing that you can get on sale?You wouldn't. I wouldn't. I was merely pointing out, in order to want the girls to keep their prices low so mongers (you and I) can have cheap sex, you must also acknowledge that you're literally hoping they stay in some level of poverty (in some cases wishing to be regulator of the industry and its prices; see colluding posts). It's one thing taking advantage of the situation in parts of the world, quite another to suggest the worlds men collude to keep the girls just poor enough.
I get it, it sucks when the pussy doesn't think $20 is enough to sleep with a man 40 years her senior. When guys are doubling the rate and killing the game. When internet platforms are providing girls potential income. It sucks, but it literally only sucks for hardcore mongers, and they've had a hell of a ride over the years. The change (albeit slow IMO) is inevitable because for everyone else it's better.
ReignSupreme01
02-26-21, 16:46
I totally agree. If prices go up it's better to just try and be happy for the locals at your own expense. I made a post like this in general by accident meaning to post it here.
But I think it might not blow up as bad and as fast as everyone is saying. I noticed that Brazil's Real has weakened significantly against the dollar a lot more so than the Colombian Peso, so that will affect a lot of peoples decision to go there. You said that Colombia has become a "cool" vacation destination but I don't know if that's the same demographic as us. In other words, someone going to appreciate the architecture isn't going to inflate the price of the girls. Overall, I think the industry will grow and flourish comfortably to adapt to any increased demand without prices going up too much, at least for a little while. I'm curious as to just why people think it's going to blow up so fast other than just premonition. From what I can tell, it's been the way it is for a while, so why now?Interesting point regarding the real, that will almost certainly have an impact. I think you'd be surprised, and maybe the main "culprits" for "putting up the prices" are the architecture etc lovers. The mainstream visitor, rather than the hardcore monger (the mainstream doesn't do the colluding thing and so spoils the game for those who choose to).
Also agree with you on the industry keeping up with demand for some time. In terms of Colombia being cool (I may be showing I'm a younger monger here) it is just premonition. Colombia has earned a pretty solid reputation across a lot of age groups / traveller types. Now couple that with the low entry requirements during the pandemic, putting it in the spotlight to every monger / person from here to Timbuktu. I think it's fair to say they can expect an uptick in every type of tourism, including sex. Whether it blows up or (more likely) steadily increases I'm not sure, but I think it's fair to say it's on the up.
ReignSupreme01
02-26-21, 18:05
Is anyone on the ground in Colombia? How are things looking in terms of ongoing lockdowns / quarantine? There's not a huge amount in the media. I've heard they've had a significant drop in cases for no apparent reason (like India and a few others). And of course the vaccine (albeit slow). What is the mood? And when do you guys guess we'll be back in the sky not facing a lockdown or quarantine at the other end?
Mr Enternational
02-26-21, 21:27
I totally agree. If prices go up it's better to just try and be happy for the locals at your own expense. I made a post like this in general by accident meaning to post it here.You are saying this as if the local GUYS do not monger. Prices only go up for the dumb foreigners that do not know any better and do not know how to source chicks the same way the locals do. For instance, I live in Thailand. You see guys saying how expensive it is to take a chick out of the gogo bar these days. Well I never took a girl out of the gogo bar and I am able to meet the same chicks and give them the same $30 for all night as I have been doing the last 14 years. Whereas others are shelling out well over $100. I know Kazeu and it will affect neither he nor I. We just try to look out for the other man. But people don't realize what they had until they have fucked it off.
ReignSupreme01
02-26-21, 23:32
You are saying this as if the local GUYS do not monger. Prices only go up for the dumb foreigners that do not know any better and do not know how to source chicks the same way the locals do. For instance, I live in Thailand. You see guys saying how expensive it is to take a chick out of the gogo bar these days. Well I never took a girl out of the gogo bar and I am able to meet the same chicks and give them the same $30 for all night as I have been doing the last 14 years. Whereas others are shelling out well over $100. I know Kazeu and it will affect neither he nor I. We just try to look out for the other man. But people don't realize what they had until they have fucked it off.I don't think he's suggesting the locals don't monger, he's saying it's OK when the locals start to do better. It's a market like any other and it's highly prized. Fantastic that you're plugged in and paying low rates, well done. You're calling people "dumb foreigners" because they're willing to pay more? Give me a break. Why should the average tourist care if pensions don't stretch that far? Or more to the point, why would the girls? What other of life's greatest pleasures can you afford for 20-30 a day? It's underpriced and the market will begin to adjust accordingly. You live in SEA, look at what's happened so far, and will continue to happen. They're levelling up, slowly but surely. Good luck to them.
I'm a monger and I'm not incredibly rich, this will also impact me, but let's be realistic and fair lads.
You are saying this as if the local GUYS do not monger. Prices only go up for the dumb foreigners that do not know any better and do not know how to source chicks the same way the locals do. For instance, I live in Thailand. You see guys saying how expensive it is to take a chick out of the gogo bar these days. Well I never took a girl out of the gogo bar and I am able to meet the same chicks and give them the same $30 for all night as I have been doing the last 14 years. Whereas others are shelling out well over $100. I know Kazeu and it will affect neither he nor I. We just try to look out for the other man. But people don't realize what they had until they have fucked it off.Yeah I mean you're always going to pay a premium if you go to a bar and have to have what you see right then and there. If you wait until the girls get off work and meet at the club, you'll get a better deal. If you get their number and schedule a session at a time that's convenient for them like in the day, then again you're saving money. If you've built a rapport with a girl, you might save money or you might just get better service for the same money, which is close enough. But it doesn't matter how strategic you are after a certain point. If enough people are in town willing to pay, the rates go up across the board, even for the locals. Theoretically at least.
Elvis 2008
02-27-21, 03:54
You wouldn't. I wouldn't. I was merely pointing out, in order to want the girls to keep their prices low so mongers (you and I) can have cheap sex, you must also acknowledge that you're literally hoping they stay in some level of poverty (in some cases wishing to be regulator of the industry and its prices; see colluding posts). It's one thing taking advantage of the situation in parts of the world, quite another to suggest the worlds men collude to keep the girls just poor enough.Sigh. You know nothing. Again, you think the market is this incredible efficient machine where supply and demand magically work. Truth is that when someone comes in and pays 10 X the going rate, it hurts not helps the women because it disrupts the market. So if someone comes in and spends $50 for a gallon of gasoline, is that a good thing? No, it creates disruption and when a guy like you does that and looks for information for others on the local scene, you are going to be shut out. Kazeu has the information you seek but you were too busy lecturing him on the market reality and he has turned his back on you.
I get it, it sucks when the pussy doesn't think $20 is enough to sleep with a man 40 years her senior. When guys are doubling the rate and killing the game. When internet platforms are providing girls potential income. It sucks, but it literally only sucks for hardcore mongers, and they've had a hell of a ride over the years. The change (albeit slow IMO) is inevitable because for everyone else it's better.Wrong answer. You think prices will go up but Kazeu is there every day supporting the locals. Some guy goes in and fucks up the scene, and he leaves and finds another scene and the local market crumbles. You think guys will pay anything for pussy and they will not. They will take their money and play elsewhere. There is always going to be a new scene somewhere in the world.
You do not know this because of how young you are, but the price of a lap dance is the same today as it was in the 1980's, $20. I have seen women and clubs try so hard to get that price higher, and the reason it does not work is simple, $20 is for a woman dancing for 4 minutes. IOW, it is too damned high to begin with. But because the price point is known, I do not put up with shit from anyone trying to get more. So when a club tries jacking up the price or cutting the amount of songs in half, I walk. I have never had a hard time finding a girl willing to do a lap dance for $20. If some guy comes in and pays $100 a song and raises the rate to that level, I and guys like me take off and a club may go out of business because of it and then the woman is going to have NO income. So price discovery is good for all involved. I am not happy overpaying for a service, and I have not met a guy happy doing so either.
As for a woman sleeping with a guy 40 years her senior, all I can say is you are stereotyping women and have no clue how they really are. I have never seen a woman whoring herself out and saying it is okay because she is fucking 30 year old dick and not 70 year old dick. All that comment shows me is you do not understand women at all.
LatinaLover#1
02-27-21, 11:58
I've been hearing this discussion for years now. The same constant bullshit was on the other board years ago. The fact is, there is not one monger fits all. One mans floor is another mans ceiling. Some travel once a year or less, other many times a year and others live in Colombia for instance. Hello! There is no Monger Union jaja. You can't control what other guys do. Some girls will accept less others think they have gold and if one inexperienced guys pays stupid money they will try to hold out for that. I have seen it more than once where a girl working Vila Mimosa for 50 Reals and later that night she would work help and demand 300 reals.
The best you can do is to build up a private stable of girls that are open minded and fun. I have some that I have been seeing for 5 or 6 years some longer and others a few months. Just use your game, make the girl like you and don't be afraid to walk if she won't negotiate. "Women are like buses, another one comes along every 5 minutes!
Obviously the poorest countries don't have the infrastructure to set up a good scene. If we were talking about overall quality of establishments and girls regardless of how much you're willing to spend, then yeah, German FKK clubs would be a top contender. But Everyone knows Europe is an expensive place to monger and if you try to save money you will have extremely mechanical experiences most places. I've had a couple good experiences in Spain for under 100 euros and Germany I had some good value yet still mechanical services, and I've had some great experiences for 100-150 euros. Some girls at FKK clubs will ask for like 400 euros and that's basically GF experience price for an hour or 2. Way too much IMO especially now that I've been to South America. But if I ever become a multi millionaire I'll move to Germany.I've read it before of mechanical service in Europe. This confuses me because some of my best sex has been in German FKKs. Yes I have gotten poor service but that is in the small minority similar to Latin American destinations with the exception of the DR where I've gotten a greater percentage of poor service. My favorite mongering destinations are German FKKs. Generally Brazilian garotas give better service but I still prefer to monger in Germany.
Mr Enternational
02-27-21, 14:55
You're calling people "dumb foreigners" because they're willing to pay more?It is not what I am calling people. It is what the chicks that you want to make rich are calling people. What should a person be called when they walk in to McDonald's and volunteer to pay $5 for the same Big Mac everybody else is paying $2 for?
Give me a break. Why should the average tourist care if pensions don't stretch that far?
I'm a monger and I'm not incredibly rich, this will also impact me, but let's be realistic and fair lads.Were you around Colombia when the exchange rate was 1600 pesos to 1 USD? Were you around Brazil when the exchange rate was 1.59 reais to 1 USD? Were you around Dominican republic when a chick would stay with you all night for $30? I was.
Compare the keeping the girls poor rates you are paying today to the exchange rates of those days and you will see who will be coming out the poor ones. Those exchange rates could very well show up again. That is why you want to think about what things are costing from a local perspective and not from the perspective of back home or what you are able to get with your exhange rate. What is costing you $50 today could cost you $170 tomorrow on exchange rate alone. I think those "pensioners" that you mentioned that have lived this have a better grasp of the issue, treading lightly and not playing the weekend millionaire.
At the end of the day, I speak French, Portuguese, Spanish, and Thai and know my way around all these countries. I mostly only deal with normal chicks that are not hookers anyway, so it is not going to affect me. I am just trying to look out for the next monger.
You wouldn't. I wouldn't. I was merely pointing out, in order to want the girls to keep their prices low so mongers (you and I) can have cheap sex, you must also acknowledge that you're literally hoping they stay in some level of poverty (in some cases wishing to be regulator of the industry and its prices; see colluding posts). It's one thing taking advantage of the situation in parts of the world, quite another to suggest the worlds men collude to keep the girls just poor enough.I think you missed a point, he did not say don't give them more money, just don't associate the money with selling sex.
Is anyone on the ground in Colombia? How are things looking in terms of ongoing lockdowns / quarantine? There's not a huge amount in the media. I've heard they've had a significant drop in cases for no apparent reason (like India and a few others). And of course the vaccine (albeit slow). What is the mood? And when do you guys guess we'll be back in the sky not facing a lockdown or quarantine at the other end?You know that you just pissed off probably the only person on the ground who is posting regularly for no other reason than to give back, right?
Elvis 2008
02-27-21, 21:37
Were you around Colombia when the exchange rate was 1600 pesos to 1 USD? Were you around Brazil when the exchange rate was 1.59 reais to 1 USD? Were you around Dominican republic when a chick would stay with you all night for $30? I was.
Compare the keeping the girls poor rates you are paying today to the exchange rates of those days and you will see who will be coming out the poor ones. Those exchange rates could very well show up again. That is why you want to think about what things are costing from a local perspective and not from the perspective of back home or what you are able to get with your exhange rate. What is costing you $50 today could cost you $170 tomorrow on exchange rate alone. I think those "pensioners" that you mentioned that have lived this have a better grasp of the issue, treading lightly and not playing the weekend millionaire.Ain't that the truth? And mongers will go wherever their money goes the most.
A funny thing about Brazil. I was really interested in getting an account there in 2004 because they were paying 20% interest on a damned checking account and the dollar IMO was overvalued. The bureaucracy in opening an account was unreal and I could not do it. Three years later, and I figured out how but it was too late. That is around when the Real had gone from 2.5 per dollar to the 1.6 rate you spoke of.
I kept track of how crazy the Real got by tracking my hotel room. I stayed at the Intercontinental Hotel in the Paulista financial area. I paid $125 in 2004 per night. Then the hotel went to $300 and even $400. It was more expensive than the same IC hotel in NYC. That was when I knew the bubble was going to hit. Hell, a decent house in Asuncion Paraguay were going for $250,000 back then and the people in Paraguay were making $4000 a year on average.
Of course, the bubble burst then and the Great Recession followed. But I looked up how much the IC hotel was today and it is $100 a night.
Covid has done a number in Brazil, and I have gotten my vaccine, and my plan is to head there in April. I have already been on SA and am loading up on phone numbers. It is not as good as Bogota so far but I still have time.
I've read it before of mechanical service in Europe. This confuses me because some of my best sex has been in German FKKs...It has been my experience as well. I have rarely established a connection with an FKK girl, but the sex has always been outstanding. After 15+ years of visiting the FKK, I still find the girls very sexy.
ReignSupreme01
02-28-21, 14:28
It is not what I am calling people. It is what the chicks that you want to make rich are calling people. What should a person be called when they walk in to McDonald's and volunteer to pay $5 for the same Big Mac everybody else is paying $2 for?
Were you around Colombia when the exchange rate was 1600 pesos to 1 USD? Were you around Brazil when the exchange rate was 1.59 reais to 1 USD? Were you around Dominican republic when a chick would stay with you all night for $30? I was.
Compare the keeping the girls poor rates you are paying today to the exchange rates of those days and you will see who will be coming out the poor ones. Those exchange rates could very well show up again. That is why you want to think about what things are costing from a local perspective and not from the perspective of back home or what you are able to get with your exhange rate. What is costing you $50 today could cost you $170 tomorrow on exchange rate alone. I think those "pensioners" that you mentioned that have lived this have a better grasp of the issue, treading lightly and not playing the weekend millionaire.
At the end of the day, I speak French, Portuguese, Spanish, and Thai and know my way around all these countries. I mostly only deal with normal chicks that are not hookers anyway, so it is not going to affect me. I am just trying to look out for the next monger.It is what you called people but I didn't realize you talking on behalf of some girls, my mistake. Sex with beautiful women is probably one of the most desirable things on the planet and you're comparing it to the price of a Big Mac? A better analogy would be cocaine in the west; addictive, desirable.
I don't think I was around for those rates, roughly when was this? As I put in a previous post, I'm very jealous of the guys (like yourself) who lived some of those earlier experiences. That's the history I like to learn about, haha. The point you're making is, based on the historic exchange rate they are getting a much better deal now? In terms of what they can afford at a local level? I want to clarify that before I reply.
Great you can speak so many languages. I have a little Spanish but really need to knuckle down. I aspire to be multi lingual one day, maybe not quite to your level.
ReignSupreme01
02-28-21, 15:04
I think you missed a point, he did not say don't give them more money, just don't associate the money with selling sex.
You know that you just pissed off probably the only person on the ground who is posting regularly for no other reason than to give back, right?I think he might have missed my point initially? I don't overpay, like him. As I said I was referring to the inevitable rise and my dislike for the collusion conversation. Which is what I reiterated in my reply.
Sounds like a good bloke. I've probably read many of his posts, maybe benefited from some. I thank him for sharing. This notion I've pissed off a grown man debating price / collusion? I imagine the guy in question has thicker skin than to let anything I've said ruin his day to that extent. I can't see one thing I've said that isn't reasonable or wouldn't be shared by a good proportion of civilized society?
I commented on a post which essentially said (I paraphrase); it would be great if we could collude to fix pricing but there are too many men outside the monger club who wouldn't play ball, therefore it wouldn't work, sigh.
I just said even if you could get every man in the world to collude, governments should shut that down in a heartbeat because it's abhorrent. It's only purpose would be to keep people at the right level of poverty to suit your pocket. I'm not pro paying more, I'm anti large scale online collusion and such behavior. Sure, find out the market and be a bit frugal if you want.
ReignSupreme01
02-28-21, 15:19
It has been my experience as well. I have rarely established a connection with an FKK girl, but the sex has always been outstanding. After 15+ years of visiting the FKK, I still find the girls very sexy.It's hit and miss in Europe regarding mechanical service. It generally feels more transactional to me. I get the impression it weighs on the girls souls a bit more in the west. Maybe because of social differences and stigmas. I think a lot more guys are going down the sugar daddy route more often. Girls get the benefit of perceiving they're not a hooker but instead in an arrangement with an older guy. Either way it's expensive in EU and the latter is a lot more effort than your standard p4P.
Yeah I can't figure it out. I live by AAWP. (avoid abbreviations whenever possible).
It has been my experience as well. I have rarely established a connection with an FKK girl, but the sex has always been outstanding. After 15+ years of visiting the FKK, I still find the girls very sexy.It seems as though we have been going to FKKs for approximately the same period. I take it you are not interested in establishing a connection since that will take time which you would rather spend banging other FKK girls. When I first started going to FKKs I got invitation by girls to go on 'dates'. Once a Hungarian girl took me on a tour of the state of Hesse in her car.
ReignSupreme01
02-28-21, 17:42
It seems as though we have been going to FKKs for approximately the same period. I take it you are not interested in establishing a connection since that will take time which you would rather spend banging other FKK girls. When I first started going to FKKs I got invitation by girls to go on 'dates'. Once a Hungarian girl took me on a tour of the state of Hesse in her car.It's rare for the average guy to take the time but it does happen as you point out. I once met an Irish hooker (at a party my obscenely rich boss threw, girls on tap). We got on like a house on fire and are still in touch. Since she's worked in Europe, US, the Middle East. I visited her at her swanky apartment in Dubai (as well as Europe a few times) , she showed me around, we fucked, I left when my 4 days were up. No charge, just catching up as friends. I should probably note she was 21 ish, I was 30 when we met, the Dubai thing was a few years later so we had a fair amount in common. Sure it could and would have developed but who wants an ex hooker as a wife!
After my fantastic trip last year that I reported on I am desperate for another. I keep thinking of how much fun I had at La Mezzanine.
Does anyone know if La Mezzanine is open right now? Since I have been working from home I figured I would work from Colombia for a week. Get a hotel near La Mezzanine (are the other MP's open in that area?) and be able to go there often from a hotel that is close by and still get my work done.
Also I read today that Colombia is requiring day quarantine on arrival.
-Does this mean you have to stay in your room etc for days?
-Do I need a COVID test to enter with proof and a COVID test to re enter the USA with proof?
If Colombia is too tough to get into right now due to COVID any suggestions other than Brazil (too far) to go for a working vacation?
Showdown.
After my fantastic trip last year that I reported on I am desperate for another. I keep thinking of how much fun I had at La Mezzanine.
Does anyone know if La Mezzanine is open right now? Since I have been working from home I figured I would work from Colombia for a week. Get a hotel near La Mezzanine (are the other MP's open in that area?) and be able to go there often from a hotel that is close by and still get my work done.
Also I read today that Colombia is requiring day quarantine on arrival.
-Does this mean you have to stay in your room etc for days?
-Do I need a COVID test to enter with proof and a COVID test to re enter the USA with proof?
If Colombia is too tough to get into right now due to COVID any suggestions other than Brazil (too far) to go for a working vacation?
Showdown.Yes Mezzanine is open. There is no quarantaine required as long as you enter Colombia with a negative PCR test from less than 96 hours.
Yeah I can't figure it out. I live by AAWP. (avoid abbreviations whenever possible).Seeking Arrangement.
Anyone know if the clubs in Santa Fe are open?
Yes Mezzanine is open. There is no quarantaine required as long as you enter Colombia with a negative PCR test from less than 96 hours.Thanks Routard. Does anyone know if I need a negative PCR test to re-enter the USA?
Thanks Routard. Does anyone know if I need a negative PCR test to re-enter the USA?Yes, as of January 27.
LatinaLover#1
03-01-21, 23:55
Thanks Routard. Does anyone know if I need a negative PCR test to re-enter the USA?For the USA you need an Antigen test.
https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/world.php
Mr Enternational
03-02-21, 01:21
For the USA you need an Antigen test.
https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/world.phpThis is from the link you shared:
2. Passengers entering or transiting through the USA must have a medical certificate with a negative Coronavirus (COVID-19) viral antigen, NAAT, RT-LAMP, RT-PCR or TMA test result. The test must have been taken at most 3 days before departure from the first embarkation point.
Thanks Routard. Does anyone know if I need a negative PCR test to re-enter the USA?You need a negative test, but it doesn't have to be a PCR test.
The state department website (https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/ea/covid-19-information.html) refers you to the CDC website for acceptable tests:
The CDC website below (as linked by the State Department).
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html
It states they accept both Antigen and PCR tests. You'll save a good amount of money getting an Antigen test and it's typically faster. I was just in Bogota and I didn't know this so I ended up paying $$ for a Rapid PCR (yes, they have Rapid PCR tests now as opposed to the much cheaper Rapid Antigen tests).
"Passengers must be tested with a viral test that could be either an antigen test or a nucleic acid amplification test (NAAT). Available NAATs for SARS-CoV-2 include reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR), reverse transcription loop-mediated isothermal amplification (RT-LAMP), transcription-mediated amplification (TMA), nicking enzyme amplification reaction (NEAR), and helicase-dependent amplification (HDA)."
This is from the link you shared:
2. Passengers entering or transiting through the USA must have a medical certificate with a negative Coronavirus (COVID-19) viral antigen, NAAT, RT-LAMP, RT-PCR or TMA test result. The test must have been taken at most 3 days before departure from the first embarkation point.Can anyone recommend a place to have the test done before going back to the USA?
LatinaLover#1
03-03-21, 21:45
Mississippi and Texas just relaxed the mandatory mask law and no longer require the public to wear masks. Hopefully the rest of the country will follow suit. If that happens maybe we can dump these required asinine tests to travel.
Can anyone recommend a place to have the test done before going back to the USA?I have an appointment tomorrow for an antigen test. What a Rip-off pain in the ass on a global scale.
Using https://www.synlab.co/covid19/ We shall see.
LatinaLover#1
03-04-21, 15:38
I have an appointment tomorrow for an antigen test. What a Rip-off pain in the ass on a global scale.
Using https://www.synlab.co/covid19/ We shall see.Hey Woodman LL here, how much did they charge you for the Antigen test?
World Travel 69
03-04-21, 16:47
Think again about wearing Masks.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/brazils-covid-crisis-warning-whole-194006373.html
Mississippi and Texas just relaxed the mandatory mask law and no longer require the public to wear masks. Hopefully the rest of the country will follow suit. If that happens maybe we can dump these required asinine tests to travel.
I have an appointment tomorrow for an antigen test. What a Rip-off pain in the ass on a global scale.
Using https://www.synlab.co/covid19/ We shall see.So got there ok. It is on the left as you enter the airport these buildings are apart.
Really don't have time for a long post as I'm traveling soon. I did pass tho got results in less than 2 hours.
LatinaLover#1
03-05-21, 04:04
So got there ok. It is on the left as you enter the airport these buildings are apart.
Really don't have time for a long post as I'm traveling soon. I did pass tho got results in less than 2 hours.Sounds like a great alternative to running around the city before your travel date. I'd much rather show up at El Dorado a few hours early for my flight and get everything handled at one time. Good heads up.
Sounds like a great alternative to running around the city before your travel date. I'd much rather show up at El Dorado a few hours early for my flight and get everything handled at one time. Good heads up.Yes, I suppose it is better as long as you pass the antigen test-- The PCR test takes 2 days or so and costs $100? The Antigen test costs $40 or so.
Attached is a photo showing the testing center.
LatinaLover#1
03-06-21, 01:19
Yes, I suppose it is better as long as you pass the antigen test-- The PCR test takes 2 days or so and costs $100? The Antigen test costs $40 or so.
Attached is a photo showing the testing center.Is the testing ctr. Just below the car AMP up to departing flights? Is it an easy walk up to the terminal?
Uclaalumni
03-06-21, 04:15
I read on the us embassy site "Travelers are expected to quarantine for 10 days or 7 days with a negative test 3-5 days after arrival."
I get the impression that it is mandatory to quarantine. From what I can find on other sites, I thought that you just need a negative covid test within 96 hours and no quarantine required. Can someone confirm?
Is the testing ctr. Just below the car AMP up to departing flights? Is it an easy walk up to the terminal?Very simple, as you enter the airport grounds it is the out buildings on the left. Right across from the bus stop-- I believe that is test center 1 as that is where I picked when I made my appointment.
Departures are on the 2nd floor-- I think it is easy to get there. You must make an appointment on.
https://saas.pacificmedicalsuite.com/pacific-sch/appointment.php/web/3
https://www.synlab.co/
It definitely worth coming-- Been hitting SF every night lately -- So much hot pussy everywhere.
Mojo Bandit
03-07-21, 06:20
I put this in my blog but just to be thorough I posting in each city report thread.
Here is a chart that shows city by city testing locations, type of test and test costs. As well as turnaround times.
https://co.usembassy.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/103/COVID-Testing-Locations-in-Colombia.pdf
IF it is not clickable then in a chrome bowser you should be able to highlight and choose the "go to..." option. Any other browser and you may have to copy and paste the URL into the address window.
Anyone know if the clubs in Santa Fe are open?Hi,
Did you get an answer?
I am thinking of going to Colombia (Bogota or Medellin) but I wanted to know if the clubs are open? Otherwise it is quite hard to find quality level ladies.
Thanks.
Berliner2021
03-08-21, 16:00
Was there last night. Most of them were open. E. Q. Troya was.
Anyone know if the clubs in Santa Fe are open?
ProneToBone
03-08-21, 16:05
Hi,
Long time lurker and I'm jumping back in the lifestyle after over 10 years inactive. Never was a hardcore hobbyist and only know a little about my local NYC scene. I'm travelling to Bogota for the 1st time in late May or June and I want to have the best info I can for when out I'm there. Any help is appreciated. Thank you for all the good post and keep up the good work.
P.S. I am doing my homework, reading post, ect. No need to remind me of that. Not looking for someone to do the work for me and I'm willing to do as much as I can on my own. I'll play nice, please do the same.
ProneToBone
03-09-21, 02:12
I have never used a sleeve and I've been using my CC for years in Colombia. I have used it on Uber, Hooters and Buffalo Wild wings, never a problem. Carrying cash in Bogota is not the best idea either. What I do is keep most of my cash in a account without a debit card and only transfer as much cash as I need into the debit card. I've had more problems on Seeking Arrangement with an online cash app than I have anywhere else. Stay away.You mentioned cash app issues. Can you please explain. Thanks in advance.
Hi,
Long time lurker and I'm jumping back in the lifestyle after over 10 years inactive. Never was a hardcore hobbyist and only know a little about my local NYC scene. I'm travelling to Bogota for the 1st time in late May or June and I want to have the best info I can for when out I'm there. Any help is appreciated. Thank you for all the good post and keep up the good work.
P.S. I am doing my homework, reading post, ect. No need to remind me of that. Not looking for someone to do the work for me and I'm willing to do as much as I can on my own. I'll play nice, please do the same.Check out my report from last year on my trip. It should help you.
Showdown.
World Travel 69
03-10-21, 07:17
You Guys are horny and not reading the past reports.
First get your Covid shots or.
Stay home.
You Guys are horny and not reading the past reports.
First get your Covid shots or.
Stay home.One would think its the horny guys who are doing all the reading here seeing that they do not have access to hot chicas.
I thought people would be interested to hear what happened to me last night.
I went to santa fe around 10 pm. It was my first time in the night time scene for a long time. Usually I go in the afternoon. Lots of people around. Night time brings out the worst in people. Drunk and stupid. I was standing against a building and just checking out some chicas across the street. This was about 3 or 4 buildings south of the eastern entrance to Troya. There was a group of 4 or 5 guys standing about 10 to 15 feet away from me. They were facing me and yelling some stuff out. I didn't understand what they were saying. My spanish isn't good enough to pick things up unless I am consciously making effort to understand. I thought they were yelling some stuff out to someone further down the street. I stood there for a couple minutes looking at the girls across the street before turning south away from the group of men to walk away. I walked about 20 feet and I felt something hard hit me in my upper back close to the left side of my neck. At first I thought someone had dropped something from a window above. I looked up and saw nothing. I looked at the ground to try to figure out what it was, but there was nothing obvious. Nothing behind me either. I looked back at the group of guys who were trying to hold back giggles and laughter. I can only conclude that they had thrown something at me. It was something hard. It very well could have hit me in the back of my head. Who knows. I didn't make a big deal of it, but it definitely shook me up. I don't know why someone would do that. I try to mind my own business and not bother anyone, but even if you do that, stupid people will always be stupid.
This is just a warning to never let your guard down in Santa Fe. Its when you start to feel comfortable that something bad will happen. Things are starting to get busier and the stupid people are coming back.
GhostRecon
03-12-21, 02:43
Here is a complete FAQ about Bogota:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=2241562&viewfull=1#post2241562.
This was pre-covid, a lot of things have changed and will change untill you will be here.Abu Dubai spa is closed.
Loutrons charging 390 mil for one hour. There were 8 nasty looking girls tonight. I would not have paid 30 mil. One local beer 45 mil pesos. I asked 5 x (in Spanish) because I thought it was a misprint on the menu, wtf?
MistaDynamite
03-12-21, 03:38
I should have asked while I was down there. I feel like an idiot LOL. What casas are open? I used the doncolombia list but more often than not coming up empty last month. My fall back was the street action and strip clubs. I was really hoping to also find the Oriental and Thai massage spots. One thing I will definitely say it that google maps offline is your friend. The building numbers and street layouts are a little funky. You thing you're facing the right building, but it may be around the corner. Zooming in and seeing your location in relation to the address was super helpful.
Someone asked about MPs earlier I think. I went to Nanxing in Galerias which was very nice (see pics).
On a side note looks like I finally got my paid subscription set up (I still curse the voodoo that is bitcoin LOL). But now that I'm stuck in the states till my Tokyo Thailand trip I feel like I'm on a gravy train with biscuit wheels with nowhere to go.
MistaDynamite
03-12-21, 03:42
Hi,
Long time lurker and I'm jumping back in the lifestyle after over 10 years inactive. Never was a hardcore hobbyist and only know a little about my local NYC scene. I'm travelling to Bogota for the 1st time in late May or June and I want to have the best info I can for when out I'm there. Any help is appreciated. Thank you for all the good post and keep up the good work.
P.S. I am doing my homework, reading post, ect. No need to remind me of that. Not looking for someone to do the work for me and I'm willing to do as much as I can on my own. I'll play nice, please do the same.I definitely found Routard's post helpful along with the other contributions from the senior members.
I thought people would be interested to hear what happened to me last night.
I went to santa fe around 10 pm. It was my first time in the night time scene for a long time. Usually I go in the afternoon. Lots of people around. Night time brings out the worst in people. Drunk and stupid. I was standing against a building and just checking out some chicas across the street. This was about 3 or 4 buildings south of the eastern entrance to Troya. There was a group of 4 or 5 guys standing about 10 to 15 feet away from me. They were facing me and yelling some stuff out. I didn't understand what they were saying. My spanish isn't good enough to pick things up unless I am consciously making effort to understand. I thought they were yelling some stuff out to someone further down the street. I stood there for a couple minutes looking at the girls across the street before turning south away from the group of men to walk away. I walked about 20 feet and I felt something hard hit me in my upper back close to the left side of my neck. At first I thought someone had dropped something from a window above. I looked up and saw nothing. I looked at the ground to try to figure out what it was, but there was nothing obvious. Nothing behind me either. I looked back at the group of guys who were trying to hold back giggles and laughter. I can only conclude that they had thrown something at me. It was something hard. It very well could have hit me in the back of my head. Who knows. I didn't make a big deal of it, but it definitely shook me up. I don't know why someone would do that. I try to mind my own business and not bother anyone, but even if you do that, stupid people will always be stupid.
This is just a warning to never let your guard down in Santa Fe. Its when you start to feel comfortable that something bad will happen. Things are starting to get busier and the stupid people are coming back.Never drink in Santa Fe and always be on guard. The best things is to go to a hardware store and buy a box cutter. Always go for the eyes and always walk away after. Most of the street trash just confront. There are usually many people near Troya. A few slaps across the face and you will make you point.
World Travel 69
03-12-21, 15:47
I guess you missed these.
In these times it is hard to keep them up to date.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists
I should have asked while I was down there. I feel like an idiot LOL. What casas are open? I used the doncolombia list but more often than not coming up empty last month. My fall back was the street action and strip clubs. I was really hoping to also find the Oriental and Thai massage spots. One thing I will definitely say it that google maps offline is your friend. The building numbers and street layouts are a little funky. You thing you're facing the right building, but it may be around the corner. Zooming in and seeing your location in relation to the address was super helpful.
Someone asked about MPs earlier I think. I went to Nanxing in Galerias which was very nice (see pics).
On a side note looks like I finally got my paid subscription set up (I still curse the voodoo that is bitcoin LOL). But now that I'm stuck in the states till my Tokyo Thailand trip I feel like I'm on a gravy train with biscuit wheels with nowhere to go.
MistaDynamite
03-12-21, 22:23
Abu Dubai spa is closed.
Loutrons charging 390 mil for one hour. There were 8 nasty looking girls tonight. I would not have paid 30 mil. One local beer 45 mil pesos. I asked 5 x (in Spanish) because I thought it was a misprint on the menu, wtf?Damn. I forgot to mention what I paid. 190 mil for 1 hour including wine which they threw in since it was my first visit. I did buy my masseuse a Smirnoff ice for 20 mil so 210 mil altogether. She had a real cute face and nice body clothes on and off. She was the only one available at the time. Cool friendly personality. Not a bad massage as well. As I was leaving I did catch a glimpse of her coworker who looked tall with a nice body also. I'll definitely go back.
MistaDynamite
03-12-21, 22:34
I guess you missed these.
In these times it is hard to keep them up to date.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-ListsNo worries. I knew there was a risk of some / most not being open. Again I could have helped my cause by asking on the board before venturing out. Some had phone numbers that maybe worked. In my basic gringo Spanish ask if they were open. But therein lies part of the fun. I got to travel and see other parts of the city and get comfortable riding the transmilenio. After leaving Tantra Sex, which I didn't like, I found a cafe to slide into while it was raining. I drank Jameson shots while watching the nurses walk by in scrubs hugging their curves. Occasionally I'd exchange glances or catch a few sneaking a side glance as they walked by.
Never drink in Santa Fe and always be on guard. The best things is to go to a hardware store and buy a box cutter. Always go for the eyes and always walk away after. Most of the street trash just confront. There are usually many people near Troya. A few slaps across the face and you will make you point.Holy fuck. Yeah this is great advice if you think standing up to drunk hooligans is worth your life. I've had my share of scraps in my city, even with people much bigger than me who I had no business fighting with, but in a foreign country I will always put my safety before my ego. I'm not ashamed to admit I have allowed myself to be bullied by children while traveling just because of the unpredictability of it all. Their older brothers who like stabbing gringos could be right around the corner. There's just too many sketchy variables when you're away from home. It's not worth it. My dude did the right thing by walking it off. Even if he successfully stood up for himself, he then has to watch his back twice as much when he goes to Santa Fe.
Never drink in Santa Fe and always be on guard. The best things is to go to a hardware store and buy a box cutter. Always go for the eyes and always walk away after. Most of the street trash just confront. There are usually many people near Troya. A few slaps across the face and you will make you point.These are insane posts and contrary to the forum rules. I wish you get banned and never come back to ISG.
MarquisdeSade1
03-13-21, 00:25
These are insane posts and contrary to the forum rules. I wish you get banned and never come back to ISG.Suggesting one defend oneself is objectionable to you for some reason? You prefer the beta response, just submit.
LatinaLover#1
03-13-21, 02:24
You mentioned cash app issues. Can you please explain. Thanks in advance.Cash app is littered with scams and clones. I've had many girls ask me to send money to them on cash app, I never send money to girls I have never met so these request always go unanswered. I have never opened a cash app but all of a sudden I received a cash app card in the mail and a short time later my bank texted me asking if I had authorized a 740 dollar cash app withdrawal from my account. Of course I called them immediately to stop it. I contacted cash app and explained to them I never opened the card, don't want it and to cancel it NOW. Long story short, 6 months later and dozens of email later they finally agreed to cancel the account. Since then I have read scores of stories and nightmares about cash app. Stay away.
Suggesting one defend oneself is objectionable to you for some reason? You prefer the beta response, just submit.Going up to a group of sketchy drunk dudes in a foreign country where you don't speak the language and stabbing them in the eyes with a box cutter because one of them threw something at you. If I'm a beta for thinking that's bad advice then someone get me soy latte and fuck my wife for me please.
Holy fuck. Yeah this is great advice if you think standing up to drunk hooligans is worth your life. I've had my share of scraps in my city, even with people much bigger than me who I had no business fighting with, but in a foreign country I will always put my safety before my ego. I'm not ashamed to admit I have allowed myself to be bullied by children while traveling just because of the unpredictability of it all. Their older brothers who like stabbing gringos could be right around the corner. There's just too many sketchy variables when you're away from home. It's not worth it. My dude did the right thing by walking it off. Even if he successfully stood up for himself, he then has to watch his back twice as much when he goes to Santa Fe.Using a box cutter to fend off petty criminals in a Latin America country. What a fantastic way to end up in a morgue or prison! Problem solved.
MarquisdeSade1
03-13-21, 14:00
Using a box cutter to fend off petty criminals Are you suggesting robbery is a petty crime? If my life is being threatened in Latin America or anywhere else I don't consider that a petty situation, you're welcome to.
But don't go telling others to consider it "no big deal", I like his advice, slash them across the eyes with a razor blade, lets see how soon they retire from their (according to you) noble profession.
Never drink in Santa Fe and always be on guard. The best things is to go to a hardware store and buy a box cutter. Always go for the eyes and always walk away after....I take it you give this advice from experience of successfully doing this yourself.
Mr Enternational
03-13-21, 14:54
Going up to a group of sketchy drunk dudes in a foreign country where you don't speak the language and stabbing them in the eyes with a box cutter because one of them threw something at you. If I'm a beta for thinking that's bad advice then someone get me soy latte and fuck my wife for me please.You've got to know when to hold 'them.
Know when to fold 'them.
Know when to walk away.
Know when to run.
But you want to add know when to take your box cutter out?
Maybe you forgot about the part where there was a GROUP of sketchy drunk dudes in a place where you did not know the land nor the language. You have been watching too many action movies where they come at you one at a time dude. They did not stop making box cutters the day that they made yours. RUN your hit ass back to your hotel and live another day.
I am from the USA and have carried a gun damn near every day for the last 28 years. As a matter of fact, I literally have one for every day of the month. But I am not fool enough to do any dumb shit like you suggest.
Are you suggesting robbery is a petty crime? If my life is being threatened in Latin America or anywhere else I don't consider that a petty situation, you're welcome to.
But don't go telling others to consider it "no big deal", I like his advice, slash them across the eyes with a razor blade, lets see how soon they retire from their (according to you) noble profession.The situation in question did not involve a robbery. It was just a group of guys who threw something at someone after he turned his back and then gave themselves up by laughing. But I can't say that changes my stance very much. If you're getting robbed by a group, shit there goes your money. If you pull out a knife on them, shit, there goes your life. At least one of them will probably have a knife that was made to cut more than cardboard but even if not you're still fucked. You'd need something with reach like a bat or a golf club if you want any hope of taking on a group. Again, not saying that's a good idea. I would agree that it sounds like some of us may have seen too many action movies.
Silver Turtle
03-13-21, 20:06
When they get drunk, Colombian guys are the worst guys on the earth I've ever seen. And the difference between how they act when they are alone and when they form a clique, is amazing. (Almost) two centuries of violent history of Colombia is not surprising at all.
I thought people would be interested to hear what happened to me last night.
I went to santa fe around 10 pm. It was my first time in the night time scene for a long time. Usually I go in the afternoon. Lots of people around. Night time brings out the worst in people. Drunk and stupid. I was standing against a building and just checking out some chicas across the street. This was about 3 or 4 buildings south of the eastern entrance to Troya. There was a group of 4 or 5 guys standing about 10 to 15 feet away from me. They were facing me and yelling some stuff out. I didn't understand what they were saying. My spanish isn't good enough to pick things up unless I am consciously making effort to understand. I thought they were yelling some stuff out to someone further down the street. I stood there for a couple minutes looking at the girls across the street before turning south away from the group of men to walk away. I walked about 20 feet and I felt something hard hit me in my upper back close to the left side of my neck. At first I thought someone had dropped something from a window above. I looked up and saw nothing. I looked at the ground to try to figure out what it was, but there was nothing obvious. Nothing behind me either. I looked back at the group of guys who were trying to hold back giggles and laughter. I can only conclude that they had thrown something at me. It was something hard. It very well could have hit me in the back of my head. Who knows. I didn't make a big deal of it, but it definitely shook me up. I don't know why someone would do that. I try to mind my own business and not bother anyone, but even if you do that, stupid people will always be stupid.
This is just a warning to never let your guard down in Santa Fe. Its when you start to feel comfortable that something bad will happen. Things are starting to get busier and the stupid people are coming back.
Using a box cutter to fend off petty criminals in a Latin America country. What a fantastic way to end up in a morgue or prison! Problem solved.Great idea for sure. Not sure about Colombian law. You may have a right to self defense. But I'm willing to be that defending yourself in that way would get you a very long sentence, or the shorter version where you never leave.
BigButtDetecto
03-14-21, 00:08
Went to santa fe at the beginning of the week; not as many girls but cheaper overall. You can get a decent Venezolana for only 30000 room included ($10).
I had my covid test antigen test done at Colcan lab. $30. Result delivered within 4 hours. No need for an appointment.
MarquisdeSade1
03-14-21, 04:48
The situation in question did not involve a robbery. It was just a group of guys who threw something at someone after he turned his back and then gave themselves up by laughing. But I can't say that changes my stance very much. If you're getting robbed by a group, shit there goes your money. If you pull out a knife on them, shit, there goes your life. At least one of them will probably have a knife that was made to cut more than cardboard but even if not you're still fucked. You'd need something with reach like a bat or a golf club if you want any hope of taking on a group. Again, not saying that's a good idea. I would agree that it sounds like some of us may have seen too many action movies.As Mr E wrote.
You've got to know when to hold 'them.
Know when to fold 'them.
Know when to walk away.
Know when to run.
But you want to add know when to take your box cutter out?
If 5 huge guys pin you in a corner, guess what? Now if 1 big ass drunk is coming at me guess what, if I have a box cutter in my pocket he's getting cut, and it won't be pretty.
He will probably wake up like Helen Keller.
Every situation is different and will require really fast thinking and decision making, that's why mongers should not drink or get high in 3rd world shitholes like Sante Fe Tijuana El Centro MDE et al.
I've been studying Colombia and it isn't FKK or bkk.
I think anyone that likes to get high or drunk needs to stay home.
If 5 huge guys pin you in a corner, guess what? Now if 1 big ass drunk is coming at me guess what, if I have a box cutter in my pocket he's getting cut, and it won't be pretty.
He will probably wake up like Helen Keller.
I think anyone that likes to get high or drunk needs to stay home.
I've been studying Colombia and it isn't FKK or bkk. OK so what's your superhero origin story that would explain why being equipped with a knife designed to cut boxes puts you at an advantage over 5 dudes with potentially better weapons? Because the ability to refrain from drugs and alcohol is great, don't get me wrong, but it's not enough. And no amount of studying foreign cultures is going to help you out of that situation either.
ProneToBone
03-15-21, 00:05
Check out my report from last year on my trip. It should help you.
Showdown.Done. Very good. Thanks.
Are you suggesting robbery is a petty crime? If my life is being threatened in Latin America or anywhere else I don't consider that a petty situation, you're welcome to.
But don't go telling others to consider it "no big deal", I like his advice, slash them across the eyes with a razor blade, lets see how soon they retire from their (according to you) noble profession.Posts like this surface in Colombia topics quite often. I wonder what it is about this country that makes people so worked-up.
Kazeu was the one who posted about the incident. Someone from a group of street punks threw something at him. Rather than escalate and risk his life, he walked away and I applaud him for it.
Then another member posted his box-cutter tip. Well, that would be a hell of an overreaction to. Yes - a "petty" act in my book.
Now, when your life is threatened, it's a totally different matter, and no one would blame you. But that incident wasn't about saving one's life, just a bruised ego.
Looking for a PCR test in LA area, for return to Colombia, anyone have a recommendation?
Berliner2021
03-15-21, 17:53
Just wanted to mention:
At the Synlab test center at the airport you can get your rapid antigen test without appointment. Opposite to what the website says.
Results came by email within 90 minutes.
This was required for me to get home.
Went to santa fe at the beginning of the week; not as many girls but cheaper overall. You can get a decent Venezolana for only 30000 room included ($10).
I had my covid test antigen test done at Colcan lab. $30. Result delivered within 4 hours. No need for an appointment.
Mr Enternational
03-15-21, 18:34
Looking for a PCR test in LA area, for return to Colombia, anyone have a recommendation?CVS. Get on their website and make an appointment.
The hotel telephoned some testing site. The site sent a technician to my suite and I had the results emailed to me a few hours later. It was easy.
Traveling Dom
03-15-21, 21:01
My first trip to Bogota was quite interesting.
One nice thing about this area during the day. If you are walking back to IBIS go up to Carrera 7. The street is closed and there are many stores to go to including stores where you can get a SIM. Woodman09 took me to a phone store here and I quickly got a SIM with 2 GB. Walking back to IBIS (which is a straight shot from IBIS) I got a great burger and bought some souvenirs.Good writeup. I'll be heading to Medellin soon and will likely stop in Bogota for a few day-week to check it out first. I will need a local sim and am curious, the place that you purchased your sim what company was it with? If its something that I can work with my entire trip, I'll just grab the sim there and keep it for my entire time in Colombia as long as its a new sim that lasts and not one of the stolen ones that get disconnected that I hear about.
Elvis 2008
03-15-21, 21:27
Looking for a PCR test in LA area, for return to Colombia, anyone have a recommendation?Woodman, I do not know what your time frame is, but I will be headed to Bogota tomorrow. I am not sure I will need a PCR even though I got one. If you have time, I will post tomorrow if I needed it. I think Mr. E posted an article that the PCR requirement may not be needed anymore given a judge's ruling.
What sucked for me is that my fucking PCR test was more expensive than my ticket. I got a killer deal on Spirit.
DramaFree11
03-16-21, 00:13
Woodman, I do not know what your time frame is, but I will be headed to Bogota tomorrow. I am not sure I will need a PCR even though I got one. If you have time, I will post tomorrow if I needed it. I think Mr. E posted an article that the PCR requirement may not be needed anymore given a judge's ruling.
What sucked for me is that my fucking PCR test was more expensive than my ticket. I got a killer deal on Spirit.Elvis have fun. I am eager to here you report and comparison to MTY. As you know I have been in MTY for the last few days, so good.
You almost have me convinced about going to Bogota after work slows down a little. MDE is not for me, but I do think I would like Bog. Have fun.
Not sure your time frame but Costco now sells saliva PCR tests kit for home and the results are returned in 72 hrs. The kit costs $115. Costco.com has the info. It is a little complicated with a video call to view your test sample, then into overnight box to the lab.
Looking for a PCR test in LA area, for return to Colombia, anyone have a recommendation?
Woodman, I do not know what your time frame is, but I will be headed to Bogota tomorrow. I am not sure I will need a PCR even though I got one. If you have time, I will post tomorrow if I needed it. I think Mr. E posted an article that the PCR requirement may not be needed anymore given a judge's ruling.
What sucked for me is that my fucking PCR test was more expensive than my ticket. I got a killer deal on Spirit.Here in LA to get results quick like 12 hours it is costing me $175. Going tomorrow.
CVS is $139,1-2 days no guarantee on that tho-.
Elvis 2008
03-17-21, 03:41
Here in LA to get results quick like 12 hours it is costing me $175. Going tomorrow.
CVS is $139,1-2 days no guarantee on that tho-.They are still requiring PCR test to get on flight to Colombia. No change. It sucks.
ReignSupreme01
03-17-21, 11:54
Going up to a group of sketchy drunk dudes in a foreign country where you don't speak the language and stabbing them in the eyes with a box cutter because one of them threw something at you. If I'm a beta for thinking that's bad advice then someone get me soy latte and fuck my wife for me please.Hahaha. Almost choked on my chia pudding reading this!
World Travel 69
03-17-21, 16:05
What are they saying if you had shots and the card that the nurse gives you that proves it?
They are still requiring PCR test to get on flight to Colombia. No change. It sucks.
Since we're on the topic of PCR testing. Here's an interesting scenario. I will be going to the USA for 1 night and returning to Colombia the following day so I get an extra 90 days visa free in Colombia. Assuming that Colombia will still require a PCR test to enter, I will be getting a PCR test in Colombia 2 days before my flight to the US. I plan to use the results of the test to enter the US as well as return to Colombia. Whats the probability that Colombian Migration gives me shit for using a test that is technically within the 96 hrs but was taken in Colombia?
Mr Enternational
03-17-21, 19:07
Here in LA to get results quick like 12 hours it is costing me $175. Going tomorrow.
CVS is $139,1-2 days no guarantee on that tho-.I am a veteran and I do not have any other health insurance. At CVS the covid test is free for people without any insurance. I took it Sunday afternoon and had the results Monday night like 4 am.
I will be going to the USA for 1 night and returning to Colombia the following day so I get an extra 90 days visa free in Colombia. Assuming that Colombia will still require a PCR test to enter, I will be getting a PCR test in Colombia 2 days before my flight to the US.Why not fly to Mexico for the 1 night -- where no entry test required, and where if necessary covid test for return entry to Colombia can be done quickly in the airport? Just wondering, unless your whole thing is getting the cheapest flight possible to any border.
Elvis 2008
03-17-21, 22:25
What are they saying if you had shots and the card that the nurse gives you that proves it?My getting the vaccine did not matter. I suspect that will change but for now, vaccine does not matter.
Why not fly to Mexico for the 1 night -- where no entry test required, and where if necessary covid test for return entry to Colombia can be done quickly in the airport? Just wondering, unless your whole thing is getting the cheapest flight possible to any border.You're exactly on the ball. Cheapest flight was to FLL. And it also lets me take care of some things in the US while I'm there.
Not sure what to do about it this time.
I was in Santa Fe around 8 pm. I was walking west on Calle 23, between Cr 16 and 16 a, when I heard the sound of coins falling to the ground. I turned around to look at the ground and didn't see anything immediately, but I saw 2 guys following me. These were two of the guys that threw a rock at me the other night. I don't remember their faces, but I could tell from the jackets and hats they were wearing. The taller one wears a red jacket. Anyways, they were throwing coins at me. This has such a high school bully feel to it. But again I wasn't sure that they threw coins at me and I wasn't absolutely sure it was them. So when I turned the corner north onto CR 16 a. I stopped immediately around the corner and waited. To me, what they did next confirms all my suspicions. The stopped at the corner and pretended to play with their phones for 15 or so seconds, then turned around and walked back from where they came.
Yea, not sure what to do about this. I'm pretty sure they are just fucking with me, but I may stop going to santa fe alone at night. I hope someone kicks their ass, unfortunately it won't be me.
Mr Enternational
03-18-21, 04:13
Yea, not sure what to do about this. I'm pretty sure they are just fucking with me, but I may stop going to santa fe alone at night.Wear a different color hat.
Wear a different color hat.Thanks, but I'm pretty sure that's not going to help.
MarquisdeSade1
03-18-21, 05:17
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Not sure what to do about it this time.
I was in Santa Fe around 8 pm. I was walking west on Calle 23, between Cr 16 and 16 a, when I heard the sound of coins falling to the ground. I turned around to look at the ground and didn't see anything immediately, but I saw 2 guys following me. These were two of the guys that threw a rock at me the other night. I don't remember their faces, but I could tell from the jackets and hats they were wearing. The taller one wears a red jacket. Anyways, they were throwing coins at me. This has such a high school bully feel to it. But again I wasn't sure that they threw coins at me and I wasn't absolutely sure it was them. So when I turned the corner north onto CR 16 a. I stopped immediately around the corner and waited. To me, what they did next confirms all my suspicions. The stopped at the corner and pretended to play with their phones for 15 or so seconds, then turned around and walked back from where they came.
Yea, not sure what to do about this. I'm pretty sure they are just fucking with me, but I may stop going to santa fe alone at night. I hope someone kicks their ass, unfortunately it won't be me.I'm not sure, but I think you mentioned before you were Asian. Can it be a racist thing rather than simply a juvenile thing?
In any way, I would either stop going there altogether, find other people to go with, or uber / taxi right to and from your favorite club's entrance.
PolloNegro
03-18-21, 05:51
Since we're on the topic of PCR testing. Here's an interesting scenario. I will be going to the USA for 1 night and returning to Colombia the following day so I get an extra 90 days visa free in Colombia. Assuming that Colombia will still require a PCR test to enter, I will be getting a PCR test in Colombia 2 days before my flight to the US. I plan to use the results of the test to enter the US as well as return to Colombia. Whats the probability that Colombian Migration gives me shit for using a test that is technically within the 96 hrs but was taken in Colombia?I did the exact same thing back in January, I arrived in Medellin on January 29th, and I left Colombia with a test that I took on January 29th and received results on Jan 31st and left Medellin on Feb 1st, I did not have an issue at all. Pollo Negro is out!
I'm not sure, but I think you mentioned before you were Asian. Can it be a racist thing rather than simply a juvenile thing?
In any way, I would either stop going there altogether, find other people to go with, or uber / taxi right to and from your favorite club's entrance.Yes I am Asian, but I don't think they have ever seen my full face. It could be a racist thing. Or maybe both racist and juvenile.
Elvis 2008
03-18-21, 06:34
Whats the probability that Colombian Migration gives me shit for using a test that is technically within the 96 hrs but was taken in Colombia?I think it is none.
HappyShiva
03-18-21, 08:47
Yes I am Asian, but I don't think they have ever seen my full face. It could be a racist thing. Or maybe both racist and juvenile.I think Asian men are easy target for getting bullied or robbed. Last January, in Medellin, I was hanging out with an Asian dude from Canada and he was robbed by four people at El Centro and they emptied out all his pockets and stabbed him with a sharp object. People were bullying him by calling him Chino in corners. Next day, I had to take him to the hospital to get a tetanus shot.
BigButtDetecto
03-18-21, 14:42
Since we're on the topic of PCR testing. Here's an interesting scenario. I will be going to the USA for 1 night and returning to Colombia the following day so I get an extra 90 days visa free in Colombia. Assuming that Colombia will still require a PCR test to enter, I will be getting a PCR test in Colombia 2 days before my flight to the US. I plan to use the results of the test to enter the US as well as return to Colombia. Whats the probability that Colombian Migration gives me shit for using a test that is technically within the 96 hrs but was taken in Colombia?You do not need a PCR test to come back to the US; an antigen test (faster and cheaper) is enough.
You do not need a PCR test to come back to the US; an antigen test (faster and cheaper) is enough.Yes, I am aware of that. My point was that I would need a PCR test to get back into Colombia and since you can also use a PCR test to get into the US and I would only be staying in the US for 1 night. Technically I should be able to use the same PCR test that I use to enter the US for entry into Colombia as well if I timed it right. But this is probably not common so I am worried that immigration might give me trouble in Bogota when coming back.
World Travel 69
03-18-21, 17:07
It has to be the worst airport in the World.
They make you go through customs, etc. When I was just going through. I was not leaving the airport.
I had a five hour wait for my connection to Ecuador, both ways. No Air Conditioning in the Airport.
Never Again!
Why not fly to Mexico for the 1 night -- where no entry test required, and where if necessary covid test for return entry to Colombia can be done quickly in the airport? Just wondering, unless your whole thing is getting the cheapest flight possible to any border.
It has to be the worst airport in the World.
They make you go through customs, etc. When I was just going through. I was not leaving the airport.
I had a five hour wait for my connection to Ecuador, both ways. No Air Conditioning in the Airport.
Never Again!If you are an American you shouldn't be surprised. In transit travelers don't exist in the US and any airport is a port of entry meaning you got to collect your luggage and go through customs.
Silver Turtle
03-18-21, 17:59
Yes I am Asian, but I don't think they have ever seen my full face.Yes, they did.
World Travel 69
03-18-21, 18:30
In 74 countries that has never happened to me.
There had to be Three hundred people in the line, both ways.
I don't know how many missed their connecting flights.
Also, no seats on their Toilets.
It has to be the worst airport in the World.
They make you go through customs, etc. When I was just going through, in Transit. I was not leaving the airport.
I had a five hour wait for my connection to Ecuador, both ways. No Air Conditioning in the Airport.
Never Again!
Registered and verified with Coinbase. When attempting to purchase BitCoin, a "Buys Not Supported" message appeared. Not certain if this was because I am in currently in Colombia or originally from the US.
Would any fellow member who is successfully set up with CoinBase and Paypal, be willing to help with the necessary transaction? If yes, let me know how to reach you considering I do not have access to PM yet.
Thanks!The transaction fees on BTC is around US $28 (.0005 BTC) whilst a LTC transaction fee is only 17 cents.
MongerHunger
03-19-21, 09:30
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Elvis 2008
03-19-21, 16:01
It has to be the worst airport in the World.
They make you go through customs, etc. When I was just going through. I was not leaving the airport.
I had a five hour wait for my connection to Ecuador, both ways. No Air Conditioning in the Airport.
Never Again!WT69, there is no doubt the Mexico City airport can be the worst in Mexico. They absolutely terrorized a sweet Colombian who I flew into the country. They denied her entry, put in her some kind of a jail, stole her shoes, and stole some things out of her luggage. I know now to not fly a woman from a South American country into Mexico City. I have flown them into Cancun and Guadalajara and not had any issues.
Yes, the customs thing is weird. I used to fly to Lima through CDMX all the time. When I was flying from Lima, I had to get my suitcase, go out of the protected area, and check my bag in all over again, a pain in the ass to be sure.
However when I was flying to Lima from the USA, my bag could be checked right through. I guess the Mexicans wanted to check all South American bags for drugs or other illegal things. Mexico is remarkably tolerant of Americans. When I walk into Mexico from a Texas border town, I have never been asked for my passport. With Covid, I have had my temperature taken. That is it.
I never had an issue with the toilets there. That is new.
KilledSoul
03-19-21, 22:49
Not sure what to do about it this time.
Yea, not sure what to do about this. I'm pretty sure they are just fucking with me, but I may stop going to santa fe alone at night. I hope someone kicks their ass, unfortunately it won't be me.Had my Asian friend mugged in Santa Fe when he was on his own for 2 minutes. I would suggest you always have a wingman with you.
It has to be the worst airport in the World.
They make you go through customs, etc. When I was just going through. I was not leaving the airport.
I had a five hour wait for my connection to Ecuador, both ways. No Air Conditioning in the Airport.!Many airports worse than MEX, but why not fly thru Cancun? It's cheap, major tourist destination with flights from everywhere. Non-stop from Bogota on Wingo, among others.
Why didn't you wait your layover in a lounge, or are they still not open?
If you are an American you shouldn't be surprised. In transit travelers don't exist in the US and any airport is a port of entry meaning you got to collect your luggage and go through customs.Yep. And my worst experience ever was going through a US airport, for that very reason. 2 hours in line just to look at my passport, and as a result a missed connection flight, overnight. I'll gladly pay extra money to not have to stop over in the US.
Mr Enternational
03-20-21, 01:15
Many airports worse than MEX, but why not fly thru Cancun? It's cheap, major tourist destination with flights from everywhere. Cancun is worse. They made me throw away my 3 ounce liquids!
Traveling Dom
03-20-21, 02:01
Cancun is worse. They made me throw away my 3 ounce liquids!I don't trust the baggage handlers so I keep my colognes with me. Colognes that I'm certain I will not be able to find. I would be pissed if I had to get rid of them at an airport.
I've been here for the last week banging girls from SA. Some were great, some were awful, a few flaked on me. But overall, I love the point and shoot aspect of it. I've got a script down where I make sure they are down for everything up front.
Thursday afternoon and this afternoon (Friday), I went down to Santa Fe to see what kind of girls I could find. I'm picky but not incredibly so. I look for 3 things:
1. Young.
2. Reasonably skinny.
3. Not too skanky or drug addled.
While there is a large quantity of girls, I only found 1 or 2 that fit my 3 criteria. And none of them were down for banging without a condom. So I just sucked some titties (way cheaper than a lapdance back home) and went back to the hotel disappointed. I'm about to go back out tonight. We'll see if I fair better with the sweeties and the club girls.
Cancun is worse. They made me throw away my 3 ounce liquids..They must have been profiling you, not looking like a wholesome, free spending tourist. I carried on bags every time thru that airport with no problem four times already since new year's.
MistaDynamite
03-20-21, 09:24
Good writeup. I'll be heading to Medellin soon and will likely stop in Bogota for a few day-week to check it out first. I will need a local sim and am curious, the place that you purchased your sim what company was it with? If its something that I can work with my entire trip, I'll just grab the sim there and keep it for my entire time in Colombia as long as its a new sim that lasts and not one of the stolen ones that get disconnected that I hear about.There's also an Exito in that area if you need a supermarket. Didn't try the burger place, but I had bandeja de paisa which was good. It is next to a kokoriko which has good chicken and not bad to have at the airbnb or hotel for late night snacking.
Same issue. Not enough quality. Even along the south stroll. I saw one really tiny ginger looking girl who seemed pretty cool. But she told me she has been working the streets in Santa Fe for 6 months. I was a little skittish about barebacking her. I might have come back but I got mean-mugged by a couple of punks walking together in a group and I figured I'd avoid the conflict. I checked out all the bars. I saw a few lookers at Fiebre. But seating was hard to come by and I didn't see any girls I would consider "must have". So I went back to my place and set up some more SA dates for Saturday.
BigButtDetecto
03-20-21, 18:01
WT69, there is no doubt the Mexico City airport can be the worst in Mexico. They absolutely terrorized a sweet Colombian who I flew into the country. They denied her entry, put in her some kind of a jail, stole her shoes, and stole some things out of her luggage. I know now to not fly a woman from a South American country into Mexico City. I have flown them into Cancun and Guadalajara and not had any issues.
Yes, the customs thing is weird. I used to fly to Lima through CDMX all the time. When I was flying from Lima, I had to get my suitcase, go out of the protected area, and check my bag in all over again, a pain in the ass to be sure.
However when I was flying to Lima from the USA, my bag could be checked right through. I guess the Mexicans wanted to check all South American bags for drugs or other illegal things. Mexico is remarkably tolerant of Americans. When I walk into Mexico from a Texas border town, I have never been asked for my passport. With Covid, I have had my temperature taken. That is it.
I never had an issue with the toilets there. That is new.When I go to Colombia, I don't go through Mexico anymore; it is chaos. Nothing comparable to El Dorado airport in Bogota.
Same issue. Not enough quality. Even along the south stroll. I saw one really tiny ginger looking girl who seemed pretty cool. But she told me she has been working the streets in Santa Fe for 6 months. I was a little skittish about barebacking her. I might have come back but I got mean-mugged by a couple of punks walking together in a group and I figured I'd avoid the conflict. I checked out all the bars. I saw a few lookers at Fiebre. But seating was hard to come by and I didn't see any girls I would consider "must have". So I went back to my place and set up some more SA dates for Saturday.I have plenty to say about Santa Fe as I have been there 25+ times in last 6 weeks-- Just got back from California after 2 weeks.
For Now I will just say this:
--I was there last night and there were Tons of HotAss Streetie Sweeties-- I went about 7- I was jetlagged, but dragged myself over-.
Had 3 very great sessions and stopped into Alaska bakery for a bowl of Caldo de Costilla-- I was falling asleep at the table, LOL. So much HotAss pussy out last night -- I woulda went for 4 but-- Could not do it.
World Travel 69
03-20-21, 18:45
You get off the plane and must go through customs. Then you can go to the lounge.
Many airports worse than MEX, but why not fly thru Cancun? It's cheap, major tourist destination with flights from everywhere. Non-stop from Bogota on Wingo, among others.
Why didn't you wait your layover in a lounge, or are they still not open?
MistaDynamite
03-21-21, 00:33
Is it girl friendly? If so, is there a fee for guests?
MistaDynamite
03-21-21, 00:42
Japan officially announced they're not allowing any overseas spectators for the Olympics. Man I had been looking forward to this once in a lifetime trip since the last summer Olympics when Japan closed out the games. I'm angry (not at Japan) and sad at the same time. I had a trip to Thailand tacked on, which is unlikely with its quarantine situation. I wished they would've waited till May and see what numbers vaccinations and herd immunity might have produced. Maybe it wouldn't have made a difference. Damn. I may be back to Bogota sooner than planned. Anyone got any info on which casas and other massage spots are open?
MistaDynamite
03-21-21, 01:18
I have plenty to say about Santa Fe as I have been there 25+ times in last 6 weeks-- Just got back from California after 2 weeks.
For Now I will just say this:
--I was there last night and there were Tons of HotAss Streetie Sweeties-- I went about 7- I was jetlagged, but dragged myself over-.
Had 3 very great sessions and stopped into Alaska bakery for a bowl of Caldo de Costilla-- I was falling asleep at the table, LOL. So much HotAss pussy out last night -- I woulda went for 4 but-- Could not do it.Impressive. Very impressive.
Darth Vader.
Impressive. Very impressive.
Darth Vader.Yo Obi Wan Misquoti.
It's actually "Impressive, most impressive".
Also to the guy who exclusively raw dogs street girls and uses SA. Are the SA girls letting you raw dog them too? If so I got to say that's kinda fucked and I feel bad for them.
Not sure what to do about it this time.
I was in Santa Fe around 8 pm. I was walking west on Calle 23, between Cr 16 and 16 a, when I heard the sound of coins falling to the ground. I turned around to look at the ground and didn't see anything immediately, but I saw 2 guys following me. These were two of the guys that threw a rock at me the other night. I don't remember their faces, but I could tell from the jackets and hats they were wearing. The taller one wears a red jacket. Anyways, they were throwing coins at me. This has such a high school bully feel to it. But again I wasn't sure that they threw coins at me and I wasn't absolutely sure it was them. So when I turned the corner north onto CR 16 a. I stopped immediately around the corner and waited. To me, what they did next confirms all my suspicions. The stopped at the corner and pretended to play with their phones for 15 or so seconds, then turned around and walked back from where they came.
Yea, not sure what to do about this. I'm pretty sure they are just fucking with me, but I may stop going to santa fe alone at night. I hope someone kicks their ass, unfortunately it won't be me.Rest assured they badly want to mug you and are frustrated because they can't for whatever reason (people around, police nearby, etc.).
Mr Enternational
03-21-21, 18:23
Also to the guy who exclusively raw dogs street girls and uses SA. Are the SA girls letting you raw dog them too? If so I got to say that's kinda fucked and I feel bad for them.Why would you feel bad for them? They have the option of saying no the same as the tons of other girls that I am sure tell him no. If a chick did not go with dudes for less than $300, would you feel sorry for the dude that agreed to pay the $300?
These adults have the freedom to make their own decisions believe it or not. Why do you think Seeking Arrangement chicks would not do it? They are humans too and are not monolithic. They are no different than anyone else simply because they have signed up on a particular website.
Mr Enternational
03-21-21, 18:24
Is it girl friendly? If so, is there a fee for guests?First one is free. 54,000 pesos for each additional. Must have ID. That being said, I found this out the hard way with non-pros. If you intend on bringing hookers there then your luck may be different.
Is it girl friendly? If so, is there a fee for guests?They are not GF-- not sure how much -- go to Hotel San Francisco-- There are many other cheap hotels in that area.
I have plenty to say about Santa Fe as I have been there 25+ times in last 6 weeks-- Just got back from California after 2 weeks.
For Now I will just say this:
--I was there last night and there were Tons of HotAss Streetie Sweeties-- I went about 7- I was jetlagged, but dragged myself over-.
Had 3 very great sessions and stopped into Alaska bakery for a bowl of Caldo de Costilla-- I was falling asleep at the table, LOL. So much HotAss pussy out last night -- I woulda went for 4 but-- Could not do it.Went yesterday during day-- boned 2 more hot ass College girl Streetie Sweeties-- There are hot girls only working daytime-- Lotsa variety on Saturday-- Love looking at them in the daylight.
Why would you feel bad for them? They have the option of saying no the same as the tons of other girls that I am sure tell him no. If a chick did not go with dudes for less than $300, would you feel sorry for the dude that agreed to pay the $300?
These adults have the freedom to make their own decisions believe it or not. Why do you think Seeking Arrangement chicks would not do it? They are humans too and are not monolithic. They are no different than anyone else simply because they have signed up on a particular website.Because most of the girls on seeking aren't pros, they didn't really sign up for that level of risk. I feel like if you bareback hookers, especially street hookers, there should at least be like a grace period where you see if you develop any symptoms (if you're not going to get tested) before you start barebacking regular girls. Just as a courtesy I guess? I dunno, I don't think that's a lot to ask.
Yo Obi Wan Misquoti.
It's actually "Impressive, most impressive".
Also to the guy who exclusively raw dogs street girls and uses SA. Are the SA girls letting you raw dog them too? If so I got to say that's kinda fucked and I feel bad for them.Yep, if you pay more, you know they're disease free, LOL.
Hello all,
I am planning a trip to Colombia, Bogota and Medellin in mid of April. Can someone please confirm if the clubs in Santa Fe (Troya, etc') are open or closed at this corona time?
Thanks in advance.
Aviv.
MiamiSammy
03-22-21, 15:52
I'm looking to add a side trip to my upcoming visit, and can't decide whether to go to Cali or Bogota. Seems as if the big difference is climate- hot and sticky vs cold and damp. Anyone care to weigh in as to why one over the other? Some say the women are finer in Cali, others the opposite. I've never been to either, so I'm looking to my fellow Senior Members for advice-.
Mr Enternational
03-22-21, 16:33
Because most of the girls on seeking aren't pros, I don't know in which sense you are using pros. In the sense that I use it, it means hookers. The definition of hooker is someone exchanging sex for money. If don't matter if they are fucking in a 5th Avenue Penthouse or in Santa Fe. I think the Arrangement part in the title signifies that the man will be giving the woman money.
Are you doubting these men are getting the sex in return? Are you asserting that once a woman on this website encounters 1 arrangement, that they are not seeking others? You think it is a lot to ask? Again, they are free to turn down his offer and are not forced into these things. And get this.. ANY woman can sign up on SA, not just those you think fit certain criteria. So how do you know the chick I fucked in Santa Fe for $10 is not on SA selling some other guy pussy for ten times that?
I also think you have the game backwards. If you go to McDonald's you pretty much expect a teenager to be throwing your shit into a bag. If you go to a steakhouse then you will expect people to be bending over backwards for you because you are paying a lot more money for that ribeye and wine than the Big Mac and Diet Coke.
See people like me and Woodman and Kazeu know that when we go to Santa Fe that it is only a little money. We know a chick may not dot every I and cross every t and we roll with those punches. I think the guys on this SA website are giving a bunch more money so the chicks are more likely to give in to the special services that guys may be requiring for that kind of money. Hookers are hookers and I think the more expensive ones are willing to go above and beyond for that pricepoint, whereas like a chick that I was fucking in Ecuador that would not even hang up her phone said, "It is only $6!"
How much could I reasonably have expected for that versus the guy on SA paying $150? Surely the person being paid $150 is going to bareback quicker than the person being paid $6. You are saying it as if it is the opposite and more expensive chicks should be expected to perform less services. Where do people get this type of thinking from? It is like when it comes to pussy some guys think in a bizarro world.
MiamiSammy
03-22-21, 16:45
I don't know in which sense you are using pros. In the sense that I use it, it means hookers. The definition of hooker is someone exchanging sex for money. If don't matter if they are fucking in a 5th Avenue Penthouse or in Santa Fe. I think the Arrangement part in the title signifies that the man will be giving the woman money. Are you doubting these men are getting the sex in return? Are you asserting that once a woman on this website encounters 1 arrangement, that they are not seeking others? You think it is a lot to ask? Again, they are free to turn down his offer and are not forced into these things.
I also think you have the game backwards. If you go to McDonald's you pretty much expect a teenager to be throwing your shit into a bag. If you go to a steakhouse then you will expect people to be bending over backwards for you because you are paying a lot more money for that ribeye and wine than the Big Mac and Diet Coke.
See people like me and Woodman and Kazeu know that when we go to Santa Fe that it is only a little money. We know a chick may not dot every I and cross every t and we roll with those punches. I think the guys on this SA website are giving a bunch more money so the chicks are more likely to give in to the special services that guys may be requiring for that kind of money. Hookers are hookers and I think the more expensive ones are willing to go above and beyond for that pricepoint, whereas like a chick that I was fucking in Ecuador that would not even hang up her phone said, "It is only $6!" How much could I reasonably have expected for that versus the guy on SA paying $150?"The definition of hooker is someone exchanging sex for money. If don't matter if they are fucking in a 5th Avenue Penthouse or in Santa Fe". That's inherently false, as are all sweeping generalizations. I'd offer some tired admonishment like "unless you walk a mile in their shoes", but you're way too far gone for that. That's messed up.
MaddTraveler
03-22-21, 16:51
Because most of the girls on seeking aren't pros, they didn't really sign up for that level of risk. I feel like if you bareback hookers, especially street hookers, there should at least be like a grace period where you see if you develop any symptoms (if you're not going to get tested) before you start barebacking regular girls. Just as a courtesy I guess? I dunno, I don't think that's a lot to ask.Hey Talkyes,
Be careful on this forum bro. Many men on here don't know nor have never experienced free sex, so don't mention or hint nonpros / semipros here LOL. How dare you suggest and imply some of the girls on SA are college girls or normal girls who aren't pros? Or many will just want to date and go out without sex unless you seduce them first like normal men do, and pay them nothing, take them shopping, or give nothing at all like many have done, oh yes that includes the ones in the USA. Don't suggest that some are hardcore, some are in between, and some have no clue and simply hoping for a sugar daddy where you could spend an entire day or more with them with real GFE, no clock watching and spend same amt others are paying hourly or none. Don't suggest that kind of stuff man. It's not possible and doesn't exist. Every single women in col are hookers, no men get laid free there, no such thing LOL.
Mr Enternational
03-22-21, 16:52
"The definition of hooker is someone exchanging sex for money. If don't matter if they are fucking in a 5th Avenue Penthouse or in Santa Fe". That's inherently false, as are all sweeping generalizations. I'd offer some tired admonishment like "unless you walk a mile in their shoes", but you're way too far gone for that. That's messed up.It is not a generalization; it is a definition. You don't know what shoes I have walked in during my time on this planet.
Traveling Dom
03-22-21, 17:04
If I plan to have multiple guests, is it best to pay extra for 2 person occupancy, or to just pay as the guests come if the front desk sees them? I see hotels can be about $15 for a single person, but around $22 for double occupancy. That's like a third markup. Would it be better off to just pay it, or to get single occupancy and as guests arrive if they or we are stopped by security or front desk to pay then? I'm guessing if I pay for a second person upon booking, when I bring a person after that, I still will end up paying for another additional person?
MarkTrinidad
03-22-21, 18:04
I'd say Bogota is better because it has a dedicated red light district: Santa Fe. Plus most chicks cost around 10-15 USD yes the weather sucks in Bogota but in all it has everything a monger wants. Also most chicks working in Santa Fe are from Cali almost none are local Bogota residents. Plus many Venezuelans are there too I personally think the Venes are way better looking than Colombians they don't have those tattoos all over their bodies. But yes Bogota is going to be your choice if you want the monger scene. Cheap pussy and hot Venes plus Cali chicks looking for a quick buck.
I'm looking to add a side trip to my upcoming visit, and can't decide whether to go to Cali or Bogota. Seems as if the big difference is climate- hot and sticky vs cold and damp. Anyone care to weigh in as to why one over the other? Some say the women are finer in Cali, others the opposite. I've never been to either, so I'm looking to my fellow Senior Members for advice-.
I'm looking to add a side trip to my upcoming visit, and can't decide whether to go to Cali or Bogota. Seems as if the big difference is climate- hot and sticky vs cold and damp. Anyone care to weigh in as to why one over the other? Some say the women are finer in Cali, others the opposite. I've never been to either, so I'm looking to my fellow Senior Members for advice-.I personally like the weather in Bogota-- I do not miss hot humid weather of SoCal-.
Many women in Cali actually come to Bogota to work -- Bogota is the Best because girls from all over Colombia come here to hoe. -- True for other cities but mostly for Bogota-.
The Venezuelans are here too-- Bogota has the Most girls.
Somtimes there are rainy periods where you will get rain for 2 weeks+ so you can pick a bad time- but most of the time it rains and quits-- I would say that it rains 30% on average.
Cali is an interesting place and worth checking out.
If I plan to have multiple guests, is it best to pay extra for 2 person occupancy, or to just pay as the guests come if the front desk sees them? I see hotels can be about $15 for a single person, but around $22 for double occupancy. That's like a third markup. Would it be better off to just pay it, or to get single occupancy and as guests arrive if they or we are stopped by security or front desk to pay then? I'm guessing if I pay for a second person upon booking, when I bring a person after that, I still will end up paying for another additional person?If you are looking at $15 singles you are not looking at high end places. So who knows what the guest fees or policies might be. In higher end places it depends more on whether they will allow guests. If you have a particular person in mind, and you book for double occupancy, you will be fine with that person. If you have extra guests the hotels often have a guest fee.
The only way to know is to ask the place where you plan to book. Nothing anyone says here is going to really help beyond that.
BigButtDetecto
03-22-21, 20:42
I'd say Bogota is better because it has a dedicated red light district: Santa Fe. Plus most chicks cost around 10-15 USD yes the weather sucks in Bogota but in all it has everything a monger wants. Also most chicks working in Santa Fe are from Cali almost none are local Bogota residents. Plus many Venezuelans are there too I personally think the Venes are way better looking than Colombians they don't have those tattoos all over their bodies. But yes Bogota is going to be your choice if you want the monger scene. Cheap pussy and hot Venes plus Cali chicks looking for a quick buck.Bogota has a lot of options to monger at and cheap girls in SF. But I like the warm weather in Cali and the girls have curves that you do not find anywhere else in the world. There is not as much air pollution as in Bogota or Medellin;.
Also everytime I go to Bogota I feel short of breath due to elevation (2644 m).
BigButtDetecto
03-22-21, 20:45
Hello all,
I am planning a trip to Colombia, Bogota and Medellin in mid of April. Can someone please confirm if the clubs in Santa Fe (Troya, etc') are open or closed at this corona time?
Thanks in advance.
Aviv.I was there 2 weeks ago and 90% were open; not as many girls as before I noticed but it was early in the week.
If you are looking at $15 singles you are not looking at high end places. So who knows what the guest fees or policies might be. In higher end places it depends more on whether they will allow guests. If you have a particular person in mind, and you book for double occupancy, you will be fine with that person. If you have extra guests the hotels often have a guest fee.
The only way to know is to ask the place where you plan to book. Nothing anyone says here is going to really help beyond that.Don Carlos stayed in the Bacata (a new high rise condo / shopping center) on Calle 19 using AirBnb. This guy had multiple dates with many SA girls.
They have a nice reception area and coffee bar market, ice cream parlor and casino on 1st FL.
Don Carlos had some very hot women.
MiamiSammy
03-22-21, 22:32
I personally like the weather in Bogota-- I do not miss hot humid weather of SoCal-.
Many women in Cali actually come to Bogota to work -- Bogota is the Best because girls from all over Colombia come here to hoe. -- True for other cities but mostly for Bogota-.
The Venezuelans are here too-- Bogota has the Most girls.
Somtimes there are rainy periods where you will get rain for 2 weeks+ so you can pick a bad time- but most of the time it rains and quits-- I would say that it rains 30% on average.
Cali is an interesting place and worth checking out.Who's got better food? I know about the salsa music, which is a big draw, but do they have a unique take on Colombian food?
I don't know in which sense you are using pros. In the sense that I use it, it means hookers. The definition of hooker is someone exchanging sex for money. If don't matter if they are fucking in a 5th Avenue Penthouse or in Santa Fe. I think the Arrangement part in the title signifies that the man will be giving the woman money.
Are you doubting these men are getting the sex in return? Are you asserting that once a woman on this website encounters 1 arrangement, that they are not seeking others? You think it is a lot to ask? Again, they are free to turn down his offer and are not forced into these things. And get this.. ANY woman can sign up on SA, not just those you think fit certain criteria. So how do you know the chick I fucked in Santa Fe for $10 is not on SA selling some other guy pussy for ten times that?
I also think you have the game backwards. If you go to McDonald's you pretty much expect a teenager to be throwing your shit into a bag. If you go to a steakhouse then you will expect people to be bending over backwards for you because you are paying a lot more money for that ribeye and wine than the Big Mac and Diet Coke.Dude,
I don't know why you're making this more complicated than it is. Your steakhouse vs McDonalds example does not apply within the context of anything I said, it seems like an unrelated tangent triggered by something I said that you don't like. The fact of the matter is, seeking.com is not an escort site. There are regular girls on there and also amateurs who are asking for money but thinking of it as a sugardaddy arrangement where they are being selective with their clients. It's different than pros. Part of the reason they are selective is because they assume that the types of guys willing to pay $90 a month for a subscription on top of whatever their own rate is, are not the same types of guys barebacking $10 hookers. So yeah, maybe there is some responsibility for them to take when they make such assumptions, but don't try to act like my thought process is completely backwards for having a bit of empathy.
The fact of the matter is, seeking.com is not an escort site. There are regular girls on there and also amateurs who are asking for money but thinking of it as a sugardaddy arrangement where they are being selective with their clients. It's different than pros. Part of the reason they are selective is because they assume that the types of guys willing to pay $90 a month for a subscription on top of whatever their own rate is, are not the same types of guys barebacking $10 hookers. So yeah, maybe there is some responsibility for them to take when they make such assumptions, but don't try to act like my thought process is completely backwards for having a bit of empathy.I think most members here use it like an escort site in the form of PPM which works like calling an escort. Most girls on seeking are looking for mutually beneficial relationship which is just a nicer way to ask for money in exchange for sex. Yes, you can find regular girls but most of them still want a mutually beneficial relationship that involves money for whatever reason. Some don't want money but those are not the norm.
I don't know who is picking who. There are so many of them, if the girl is difficult or ask too many questions, I just say "Next".
I think most regular girls don't know SD has to pay to be able to contact them. They are also paying far less than SD to be a Premium member. About STD, I think I understand your thinking. I had a long term SB last year and we both had STD check before. She is an US expat working in the country that I was in at the time. She can be considered a regular girl because she has a good paying job and does not have much experience about sex. I was actually worrying about giving her STD the whole time for that reason.
Mr Enternational
03-23-21, 04:53
Dude,
I don't know why you're making this more complicated than it is. Your steakhouse vs McDonalds example does not apply within the context of anything I said,All I am saying is that when people pay more, they expect more. You are talking like $10 Santa Fe chicks pull out all the stops when they don't. You see all the time reports saying they had to pay extra for this that and the other at casas and the like.
Guys are not paying $90 per month for a subscription plus top money to these chicks to be limited in what they will do and be centavoed and pesoed for extras. The extras are coming with the price of admission.
It is the same with the middle east guys flying chicks in to let them number 2 on them. Those are not $10 Santa Fe chicks agreeing to be shit on believe it or not. Those are chicks that probably not many of us on this board can afford.
John Clayton
03-23-21, 05:19
...It is the same with the middle east guys flying chicks in to let them number 2 on them...Meaning, they'd pay to let a girl shit on them -- or they would pay to shit on the girl? (Seems like a strange thing to do, either way).
Mr Enternational
03-23-21, 06:02
Meaning, they'd pay to let a girl shit on them -- or they would pay to shit on the girl? (Seems like a strange thing to do, either way).LOL. They shit on the girls. Rich mfs don't have anything else to do with their money. Just google emirates shit on women.
"Anonymous IG Model Breaks Down How Much Money She Makes Going To Dubai To Get Pooped On".
John Clayton
03-23-21, 06:32
LOL. They shit on the girls. Rich mfs don't have anything else to do with their money. Just google emirates shit on women...I think in '91 I was the only person rooting for Sadaam because I hated the emiratis and kuwaitis so much.
Elvis 2008
03-23-21, 15:34
About STD, I think I understand your thinking. I had a long term SB last year and we both had STD check before. She is an US expat working in the country that I was in at the time. She can be considered a regular girl because she has a good paying job and does not have much experience about sex. I was actually worrying about giving her STD the whole time for that reason.I understand the thinking too whether it is correct or not is a different matter. If you are a monger, you fall into one of two categories: either you realize American sex prison policies are bullshit or you believe it and feel guilty about it. The first few times I did this and was not faithful to my ex-wife, I considered myself a loser. So I went through things researched a ton and realized that my behavior was normal. Monogamy was not a Biblical or Christian construct but a response to syphilis in the 1500's. This is also when sexuality and morality really came into play because syphilis may be as bad a disease as there is with some people.
Given the history of the Catholic Church, which actually ran brothels prior to syphilis hitting Europe, the whole concept of the church in charge of sexuality is kind of absurd, but they took over the role of deciding what was normal with sexuality and morality. With that comes an enormous amount of power. So when penicillin comes around and is readily available and cures syphilis did the church come out and say "You all can fuck like bunnies now?" Of course not. Shoot, church leaders and political leaders probably were probably preaching monogamy came from Christ. But eventually people saw that others were having sex and not dying. This led to the free love era of the 60's and 70's right, and abortion being legalized in 1973 was a sexual freedom movement as well. If people were dropping dead with syphilis, I do not think abortion would have been legalized.
So if you are in church or government, what do you do if you want to retain or assume more power with the power associated with sexuality, what do you do now? Well, you designate some diseases as being sexual and associate guilt with them. You elevated a nothing disease like herpes into this horrible condition. That did not work too well so then there is HIV and AIDS, and that worked for a while. Thing is eventually people figured out that they could have sex and not die of syphilis and straight people could have sex without condoms and not die of AIDS.
So I got strep throat once from kissing a stripper. I was sick as hell for 5 days, but you said you were only worried about a sexual disease and Strep throat is not listed as one. Why were you not worried about strep? Because the government is dictating to you with certain diseases it is your fault with spreading it and other ones there is not. Is that logical? Fuck no. It is designed for power. Why else would you associate disease with sex?
So the whole concept that goes on in the monger world that DFK is safe and BBFS is risky is based on the government campaign on AIDS, and the irony is that the CDC actually lied about the AIDS numbers, and they admitted it. The chairman for the CDC admitted there was no downside to inflating the AIDS numbers and in 1996, with a stroke of the pen, they cut the numbers in half. The concept that DFK is safe and BBFS is not is not logical; it is literally batshit crazy.
So yeah, I get the fear. If you are at the stage you still feel guilt about your sexuality, it makes sense to me to be afraid. However, that is an illogical fear. Why are you afraid of spreading disease with sex and not in other ways? Why are you more worried about sexual diseases than other ones?
If you are rejecting the government's advice on prostitution, why are you accepting it with regards to sex and diseases? Well, maybe you are not okay with your sexuality and feel guilty about it.
It is amazing though you accept giving a disease to someone else as being all your fault. The government says you are a bad boy, and you go along with it. You are conditioned to take on something if a woman feels badly. How do you know the STD came from you and not someone else? Better yet, how do you know it is from you and not from her having a shitty immune system because of her lifestyle choices?
So we have a monger on here being a white knight to the working girls which is funny right? To cure STDs, men need to change. LOL. That is why the USA is a sex prison. What do you think would happen if I went to the stripper and said, "Hey, you gave me strep throat?
I understand the thinking too whether it is correct or not is a different matter. If you are a monger, you fall into one of two categories: either you realize American sex prison policies are bullshit or you believe it and feel guilty about it. The first few times I did this and was not faithful to my ex-wife, I considered myself a loser. So I went through things researched a ton and realized that my behavior was normal. Monogamy was not a Biblical or Christian construct but a response to syphilis in the 1500's. This is also when sexuality and morality really came into play because syphilis may be as bad a disease as there is with some people.
Given the history of the Catholic Church, which actually ran brothels prior to syphilis hitting Europe, the whole concept of the church in charge of sexuality is kind of absurd, but they took over the role of deciding what was normal with sexuality and morality. With that comes an enormous amount of power. So when penicillin comes around and is readily available and cures syphilis did the church come out and say "You all can fuck like bunnies now?" Of course not. Shoot, church leaders and political leaders probably were probably preaching monogamy came from Christ. But eventually people saw that others were having sex and not dying. This led to the free love era of the 60's and 70's right, and abortion being legalized in 1973 was a sexual freedom movement as well. If people were dropping dead with syphilis, I do not think abortion would have been legalized.
So if you are in church or government, what do you do if you want to retain or assume more power with the power associated with sexuality, what do you do now? Well, you designate some diseases as being sexual and associate guilt with them..Nobody ever said that DFK was completely safe, or if they did then it wasn't me. But strep throat goes away. And anything permanent you can get from kissing you pretty much have a zero chance of getting unless you have a cut or open sore. I'm seeing a lot of mental gymnastics going on on this board from people trying to shake off guilt. All I said is that it's not a lot to expect for someone to wait a week or two after fucking cheap street hookers without a condom before they fuck regular girls without a condom. While I agree that the church and the government overstates the risk of disease, that doesn't mean that it's all based on a big lie. People do get AIDS and other uncurable diseases and comparing them to a strep throat is just a sign that you're too far gone to be reasoned with. I'm starting to realize that a willingness to pay for sex is not enough of a commonality for people to share a forum together.
Mr Enternational
03-23-21, 17:55
American sex prison policies are bullshit or you believe it and feel guilty about it. The first few times I did this and was not faithful to my ex-wife, I considered myself a loser. So I went through things researched a ton and realized that my behavior was normal. Monogamy was not a Biblical or Christian construct but a response to syphilis in the 1500's.Well it did not start being illegal in the USA until the early 20th century with the introduction of the Mann Act.
MarquisdeSade1
03-23-21, 18:37
LOL. They shit on the girls. Rich mfs don't have anything else to do with their money. Just google emirates shit on women.
"Anonymous IG Model Breaks Down How Much Money She Makes Going To Dubai To Get Pooped On".Sounds like putas getting treated like the putas that they are.
Just an illustration of what greedy putas will do for money.
There is scat porn and beastiality porn all over the internet.
How much do they get paid to make a scene? $10 usd?
This is a perfect example why I laugh at mongers that overpay for sex.
MarquisdeSade1
03-23-21, 21:54
Nobody ever said that DFK was completely safe, or if they did then it wasn't me. But strep throat goes away. And anything permanent you can get from kissing you pretty much have a zero chance of getting unless you have a cut or open sore. I'm seeing a lot of mental gymnastics going on on this board from people trying to shake off guilt. All I said is that it's not a lot to expect for someone to wait a week or two after fucking cheap street hookers without a condom before they fuck regular girls without a condom. While I agree that the church and the government overstates the risk of disease, that doesn't mean that it's all based on a big lie. People do get AIDS and other uncurable diseases and comparing them to a strep throat is just a sign that you're too far gone to be reasoned with. I'm starting to realize that a willingness to pay for sex is not enough of a commonality for people to share a forum together.Don't let the door hit you in the ass, adios Pastor Ted Haggard.
MistaDynamite
03-23-21, 22:28
First one is free. 54,000 pesos for each additional. Must have ID. That being said, I found this out the hard way with non-pros. If you intend on bringing hookers there then your luck may be different.Good to know. Thanks.
MistaDynamite
03-23-21, 22:32
They are not GF-- not sure how much -- go to Hotel San Francisco-- There are many other cheap hotels in that area.Sweet. I will file that one away if I don't AirBnB. Thanks.
MistaDynamite
03-24-21, 00:09
All I am saying is that when people pay more, they expect more. You are talking like $10 Santa Fe chicks pull out all the stops when they don't. You see all the time reports saying they had to pay extra for this that and the other at casas and the like.
Guys are not paying $90 per month for a subscription plus top money to these chicks to be limited in what they will do and be centavoed and pesoed for extras. The extras are coming with the price of admission.
It is the same with the middle east guys flying chicks in to let them number 2 on them. Those are not $10 Santa Fe chicks agreeing to be shit on believe it or not. Those are chicks that probably not many of us on this board can afford.Alrighty then. I'm about to eat. I'll come back later roflmao.
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Mr Enternational
03-24-21, 01:21
All I said is that it's not a lot to expect for someone to wait a week or two after fucking cheap street hookers without a condom before they fuck regular girls without a condom.This begs the question, how long are these cheap street hookers waiting until they fuck the next guy without a condom? Or is it only the guys' responsibility? Are you even from this planet? Turn your TV on to Maury or Paternity Court or better yet visit a real court so you can wake up and see not even women that are not hookers wait 2 weeks before they fuck the next guy without a condom. And you really have the nerve to put SA hookers on a pedestal. LOL. People are going to be people. Welcome to planet earth.
Silver Turtle
03-24-21, 02:07
Would you recommend any (legitimate) literature or books about this finding?
Monogamy was not a Biblical or Christian construct but a response to syphilis in the 1500's. This is also when sexuality and morality really came into play because syphilis may be as bad a disease as there is with some people.
Elvis 2008
03-24-21, 03:22
People do get AIDS and other uncurable diseases and comparing them to a strep throat is just a sign that you're too far gone to be reasoned with.Okay, I tried being nice. If a person has HIV and takes medication, the transmission rate to another person is zero. If you have BBFS, the odds of getting HIV is somewhere between one in 500,000 and zero, and you are worried about that? Why not be worried about getting hit by lightning?
Furthermore, your wanting a guy to wait a few days after BBFS makes no sense as one STD is Hepatitis be, and it takes months to appear.
I'm starting to realize that a willingness to pay for sex is not enough of a commonality for people to share a forum together.Is that what it is? I thought you were demanding a standard of what being reasonable is when you have no clue what you are talking about.
Maybe you should petition the CDC for a "responsible monger" badge. You seem to think you deserve one.
This begs the question, how long are these cheap street hookers waiting until they fuck the next guy without a condom? Or is it only the guys' responsibility? Are you even from this planet? Turn your TV on to Maury or Paternity Court or better yet visit a real court so you can wake up and see not even women that are not hookers wait 2 weeks before they fuck the next guy without a condom. And you really have the nerve to put SA hookers on a pedestal. LOL. People are going to be people. Welcome to planet earth.Actually, It is not easy to get BB sex in SF, I have some special girls I have romanced for it but most will say no .
This begs the question, how long are these cheap street hookers waiting until they fuck the next guy without a condom? Or is it only the guys' responsibility? Are you even from this planet? Turn your TV on to Maury or Paternity Court or better yet visit a real court so you can wake up and see not even women that are not hookers wait 2 weeks before they fuck the next guy without a condom. And you really have the nerve to put SA hookers on a pedestal. LOL. People are going to be people. Welcome to planet earth.You are moving the goal posts. We are talking about going from fucking hookers to non hookers. My whole point was that when you go from someone who is a pro to someone who is not, they have no indication of the higher risk you could bring. So when you're taking about how long a hooker waits between barebacking clients, it's clear to me that you're not trying to understand my arguments, you're actually just arguing with a straw man. Just like the guy who called me Pastor Ted Haggard. Like wtf does that even mean? So yeah, I stand by my belief that some of you are too far-gone to be reasoned with. And no, Elvis, you didn't try to be nice. Calling me a White Knight and acting like I'm brainwashed for thinking that STDs are a real thing is pretty hysterical and rude. So medications reduce risk, great, so now we're assuming that everyone is taking meds just because that makes your argument stronger? You guys are accusing me of taking some holier-than-thou stance by having some empathy for girls on SA, well that's not what I was trying to do, and ironically that's actually exactly what you are doing by trying to frame me as some kind of asshole instead of trying to argue reasonably and fairly. Acting like there's no risk to banging hookers bareback and therefore no responsibility to go with it either is a fucking extreme view, and it rubs me the wrong way that I'm the one made out to look crazy for not agreeing. Just seems like you're looking at what's a convenient way to justify your lifestyle instead of looking at reality, and I'm the one not living on planet earth? Well fuck me then, I guess I'll go back to mars. Peace.
LatinaLover#1
03-24-21, 07:25
I'm looking to add a side trip to my upcoming visit, and can't decide whether to go to Cali or Bogota. Seems as if the big difference is climate- hot and sticky vs cold and damp. Anyone care to weigh in as to why one over the other? Some say the women are finer in Cali, others the opposite. I've never been to either, so I'm looking to my fellow Senior Members for advice-.I've been to both. I like the weather in Bogota, you can get some beautiful 70 degree sunny days and I especially like sitting outside my hotel at lunch time in Chico Norte and watch all the secretaries going to and from their lunch break. Don't be afraid to say Hello, and start a conversation, I've landed more than a few this way over the years. Bogota is a big city, over 8 almost 9 million people, half of them women so you have a lot of choices, crime has skyrocketed over the last year, even in the so called 'safe north' area, but I know Cali has always been dangerous, best to stay in the south area, the Radisson is a good bet. Bogota cons: this week we will be heading into the rainy season, it's a high elevation over 8000 ft. And it can take a day or two to acclimate. The restaurants were once the best in Colombia but alas, many have closed during the pandemic. I'm a beach guy so a hot and sticky city like Cali, without a nearby playa to visit, is a deal breaker to me. Hope this helps.
Okay, I tried being nice.I agree 100% with you Elvis, HIV transmission is highly unlikely through vaginal sex and the other STD are or with mild symptoms ore easily curable. My opinion is that BBFS is just a matter of time in the life of a monger and I had my share of BBFS experiences also during all these years. But you can't blame Talkys for his comments, we all understand that promoting BBFS is not a good idea anyway. Yes, HIV is highly unlikely with vaginal sex, but getting a girl pregnant is much more likely and I wonder why everybody is focused on STD and no one on that issue. It's not a matter of legal issue as it will be hard for a hooker to find out who is the father. It's just the idea that you might have a son or a daughter somewhere in a shithole country raised by a hooker in a RLD with no perspective of future than ending up also in prostitution. This is the latest headnews in Colombia: https://www.infobae.com/america/colombia/2021/03/18/no-creo-que-la-nina-este-muerta-expareja-de-la-mama-de-sara-sofia-menor-desaparecida-en-bogota/. It's about a 2 years old daughter of a prostitute, abused and killed by her mother and throwed away in a river in Bogota. The girl is blonde with blue eyes, no doubt the real father is a gringo as the mother is a morena, which means that the father could be one of us on this board. I know BBFS is inevitable for an experienced monger, my advice is to consider vasectomy.
Okay, I tried being nice. If a person has HIV and takes medication, the transmission rate to another person is zero. If you have BBFS, the odds of getting HIV is somewhere between one in 500,000 and zero, and you are worried about that? Why not be worried about getting hit by lightning?
Furthermore, your wanting a guy to wait a few days after BBFS makes no sense as one STD is Hepatitis be, and it takes months to appear.
Is that what it is? I thought you were demanding a standard of what being reasonable is when you have no clue what you are talking about.
Maybe you should petition the CDC for a "responsible monger" badge. You seem to think you deserve one.A good compromise that I use are ultra thins. I swear by the "Air Thin" line made by EXS. You won't even know it's on, trust me, I've checked several times before. You get the same feeling, and it greatly reduces your chance of bringing home an unwanted souvenir. Plus, you save a girl from having to deal with an unwanted pregnancy. Now, I've traveled to places most guys would never dream of going, and I've seen things firsthand that many only read or hear about. So, I don't agree with the term "shit-hole country". It's tough living between the tropic lines for any local around the world. People are people, and everyone is trying to make a living. I don't go out of my way to change people's minds, or help those in need, but I'm not going to add a burden to someone's life. I think we can all agree there has to be at least some sort of responsibility.
... Acting like there's no risk to banging hookers bareback and therefore no responsibility to go with it either is a fucking extreme view, and it rubs me the wrong way that I'm the one made out to look crazy for not agreeing. Just seems like you're looking at what's a convenient way to justify your lifestyle instead of looking at reality, and I'm the one not living on planet earth? Well fuck me then, I guess I'll go back to mars. Peace.I think readers should be mature enough to know what is safe and what is not and I should hope they would not be swayed by what they read on a monger board, this is in respect of BBFS with street walkers and going into dangerous places at night. As for myself, I am attracted to women who strenuously oppose sex with johns without a condom, that demonstrates that they are concerned about their health. I say we live the lifestyle that suits us. To each his own. To the BBFS mongers I say rock on.
Member #4682
03-25-21, 01:28
I agree 100% with you Elvis, HIV transmission is highly unlikely through vaginal sex and the other STD are or with mild symptoms ore easily curable. My opinion is that BBFS is just a matter of time in the life of a monger and I had my share of BBFS experiences also during all these years. But you can't blame Talkys for his comments, we all understand that promoting BBFS is not a good idea anyway. Yes, HIV is highly unlikely with vaginal sex, but getting a girl pregnant is much more likely and I wonder why everybody is focused on STD and no one on that issue. It's not a matter of legal issue as it will be hard for a hooker to find out who is the father. It's just the idea that you might have a son or a daughter somewhere in a shithole country raised by a hooker in a RLD with no perspective of future than ending up also in prostitution. This is the latest headnews in Colombia: https://www.infobae.com/america/colombia/2021/03/18/no-creo-que-la-nina-este-muerta-expareja-de-la-mama-de-sara-sofia-menor-desaparecida-en-bogota/. It's about a 2 years old daughter of a prostitute, abused and killed by her mother and throwed away in a river in Bogota. The girl is blonde with blue eyes, no doubt the real father is a gringo as the mother is a morena, which means that the father could be one of us on this board. I know BBFS is inevitable for an experienced monger, my advice is to consider vasectomy.Routard, I really appreciate this post. A vasectomy would probably make a lot of sense for most people on this board regardless, yours truly included!
I realize this is not the main point you are making about BBFS, but just a couple of comments about your intro "HIV transmission is highly unlikely through vaginal sex and the other STD are or with mild symptoms ore easily curable".
Drug-resistant strains of gonorrhea have been a bit of concern for quite a while. Half of the 500,000 reported infections in the US each year are resistant to at least one antibiotic according to the CDC. And I know a bunch of people who work on infectious diseases who tell me there is at least one strain of gonorrhea that appears to be resistant to every antibiotic we have available. So we might run out of luck in the not so distant future as far as "easily curable" is concerned. And a sensation that feels like pissing glass shards is not exactly my idea of a mild symptom.
Especially if you are a guy, I agree the evidence is that the odds of being infected with HIV through vaginal sex are very low. But the evidence is also fairly clear that those odds take a big hit if you already have another STD, in part because of compromised barriers. So if you use your vacation to engage in BBFS with a bunch hookers in some of the rougher RLDs where STDs are probably highly prevalent and antiretroviral therapy probably is not, then you certainly are taking your chances (especially if you are not using PrEP).
All a matter of what risk you are willing to take I suppose. Lots of people get away with it, some do not.
And yes, last thing I want to happen is to get a hooker pregnant and have my offspring grow up in those conditions.
It's just the idea that you might have a son or a daughter somewhere in a shithole country raised by a hooker in a RLD with no perspective of future than ending up also in prostitution. This is the latest headnews in Colombia: https://www.infobae.com/america/colombia/2021/03/18/no-creo-que-la-nina-este-muerta-expareja-de-la-mama-de-sara-sofia-menor-desaparecida-en-bogota/. It's about a 2 years old daughter of a prostitute, abused and killed by her mother and throwed away in a river in Bogota. The girl is blonde with blue eyes, no doubt the real father is a gringo as the mother is a morena, which means that the father could be one of us on this board. I know BBFS is inevitable for an experienced monger, my advice is to consider vasectomy.I agree. While I don't believe that vaginal sex is as safe as Elvis makes it sound (but I'd love to be proven wrong by being referred to a reliable source of that statistics), the mere possibility of my flesh and blood being raised or abused in a third-world country is enough for me to keep it on, no matter how much I'd love to go bare.
I understand the thinking too whether it is correct or not is a different matter. If you are a monger, you fall into one of two categories: either you realize American sex prison policies are bullshit or you believe it and feel guilty about it. The first few times I did this and was not faithful to my ex-wife, I considered myself a loser. So I went through things researched a ton and realized that my behavior was normal. Monogamy was not a Biblical or Christian construct but a response to syphilis in the 1500's. This is also when sexuality and morality really came into play because syphilis may be as bad a disease as there is with some people.My reason was simpler. She arrived a few months before me and had too much free time in a new city and I wanted a companion so we were a match. Unlike most girls on SA, she lives a trouble free life, a little too naive. She probably thought sex would be fine after the clean STD test results. She came close to being a real girl friend and secretary at the same time so I don't want to hurt her feeling by getting her sick.
On the same trip, I had a session with a hooker who coughed blood after the session. I did not have sex for 2 weeks after that because I don't want to spread disease to anyone in case I got something from her. I also met another SA girl who was stranded there but she lied about her actual location which was about 2 hours from me. I could tell she was stressed and disappointed when we couldn't have an agreement due to the distance. I thought about it for a couple of days, then I contacted her to pay her rent and living expenses for free and did not meet her in person.
I agree. While I don't believe that vaginal sex is as safe as Elvis makes it sound (but I'd love to be proven wrong by being referred to a reliable source of that statistics), the mere possibility of my flesh and blood being raised or abused in a third-world country is enough for me to keep it on, no matter how much I'd love to go bare.Older mongers like myself have been more fortunate than the younger ones. I've been lucky enough to have mongered bareback for 20 years during the 1970's and 1980's when condom sex was just not done. During that time though I was not as lucky at the BB mongers on this board who never get STDs. I got various types of STDs on numerous occasions resorting eventually to befriending a pharmacist and having my own store of anti-biotics. Then came AIDS and for me even more troubling anti-biotic resistant STDs so I adjusted to the new normal of CFS.
I have also said it before having a daughter with a Colombian chica and having that daughter end up walking the streets of Santa Fe and being banged by you blokes is enough to send a guy bonkers.
Traveling Dom
03-25-21, 22:50
So, I'm not as great a writer as the members on this board. Many of you should throw your stories in a book and make some money.
I got into Bogota around 8 pm and went straight for my hotel near Santa Fe.
I tried to figure out what I wanted to eat, and said forget the food and let me go and get some pussy. Based on the talk here on the boards I thought to myself, either I will be walking over dead bodies, in the process of getting robbed, then murdered, or the infamous Santa Fe is slightly over exaggerated like those who have never been to any inner city usually do these places.
It's about 9 pm so I decide to go for a stroll through Santa Fe area. A little dirty and dingy, but it reminds me of a south side or west side of Chicago, or certain parts of New York, or maybe even burnside area in Portland. I'm paying attention to my surroundings of course and taking the precautions that I normally would. I can understand why some would not want to come here, but these are the type of areas I grew up in, so.
Walk past a few lookers, but wanted to just hurry up and get the job done so that I can go to sleep. Found a blonde cuteish chica who spoke to me and I decided to just offer 30 mil and be sure BBBJ was included. Yes and yes. Went to the room and being new to her she was a little stand-offish. But we got the job done. Her BJ skills are not that great but her pussy was. I initially thought she was 21/22 years of age, but she told me she's 28. Has two children and got a see section. Scare barely noticeable. A tiny gut which I don't mind. I'd give her an upper 6 in the face but some may give her a 7. Its all subjective. A nice ass to grab. And cute titties to suck on hold and look at. I am a tittie man. Hers are natural not huge but they aren't non existent either. She's offered me everything on the menu with no upcharge (not that I've partaken in everything). TLN has been 150 mil. I'm quite new to mongering as I've never done so before just a couple months ago in Mexico. I'm not new to women at all though LOL. Not sure if some will think I over paid, but hey, my first chicka here in Colombia. 30 mil for BBBJ and full service I won't complain. And again, 150 mil for TLN. I've collected a few numbers of regular 9-5 workers just as I was walking around today so we'll see how that plays out also.
Elvis 2008
03-25-21, 22:56
Would you recommend any (legitimate) literature or books about this finding?Here is one on syphilis: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/case-closed-columbus/.
Then there is the phrase in the marriage vows "forsaking all others".
https://justcallmecharley.wordpress.com/2014/11/02/meaning-of-marriage-vows-forsaking-all-others/
The phrase "forsaking all others" is not technically part of the marriage vows but is included in the Declaration of Consent from the Book of Common Prayer of the Anglican Church published in 1549. The marriage ceremony outlined in the Book of Common Prayer is the basis for most weddings in the United States.
Mr Enternational
03-25-21, 23:44
It's about 9 pm so I decide to go for a stroll through Santa Fe area. I can understand why some would not want to come here, but these are the type of areas I grew up in, so.
Found a blonde cuteish chica who spoke to me and I decided to just offer 30 mil and be sure BBBJ was included. Yes and yes. She's offered me everything on the menu with no upcharge (not that I've partaken in everything). TLN has been 150 mil. I'm quite new to mongering as I've never done so before just a couple months ago in Mexico. I'm not new to women at all though LOL. 30 mil for BBBJ and full service I won't complain. And again, 150 mil for TLN.All you have to do now is say that you don't speak Spanish and I will lose it. A man's first time there and he is not getting upcharged, getting normal non-exorbitant prices, and most of all he did not die. You made it sound simple as fuck. Man you need to teach mongering classes to some of these people. Oh, and you went at night too, you badass. See now you are just showing off!
All you have to do now is say that you don't speak Spanish and I will lose it. A man's first time there and he is not getting upcharged, getting normal non-exorbitant prices, and most of all he did not die. You made it sound simple as fuck. Man you need to teach mongering classes to some of these people. Oh, and you went at night too, you badass. See now you are just showing off!Base on his screen name, sounds like he is Dominican, so walking around santa fe at night is just like walking around in guaricano.
Traveling Dom
03-26-21, 01:54
All you have to do now is say that you don't speak Spanish and I will lose it. A man's first time there and he is not getting upcharged, getting normal non-exorbitant prices, and most of all he did not die. You made it sound simple as fuck. Man you need to teach mongering classes to some of these people. Oh, and you went at night too, you badass. See now you are just showing off!LOL No Spanish but I'm working on it. But I don't believe in disadvantages with women. So, it may not be much a benefit to the SWs but I use it to my advantage with the 9-5 ers here. But damn do they work a lot.
Far as upcharging, maybe its beginners luck. I'll have to report back after I've ran through a couple dozen of 'them haha.
To the other poster. I'm not Dominican. And I don't believe any of us Americanos can pass for Colombianos regardless of our melanin or lack therof. But I know how to move. Or at least I think I do: shoulder shrug: Then again, I'm young and I'm new to this hobby. I'm not 20+ years in like some here so my experience is limited like the time on those quickie motels.
Elvis 2008
03-26-21, 02:02
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Base on his screen name, sounds like he is DominicanWell, you must be playing for Napoli then, LOL.
Older mongers like myself have been more fortunate than the younger ones. I've been lucky enough to have mongered bareback for 20 years during the 1970's and 1980's when condom sex was just not done. During that time though I was not as lucky at the BB mongers on this board who never get STDs. I got various types of STDs on numerous occasions resorting eventually to befriending a pharmacist and having my own store of anti-biotics. Then came AIDS and for me even more troubling anti-biotic resistant STDs so I adjusted to the new normal of CFS.
I have also said it before having a daughter with a Colombian chica and having that daughter end up walking the streets of Santa Fe and being banged by you blokes is enough to send a guy bonkers.I'm a little younger and my sex life started in the 80-s. In my old country there was no AIDS epidemy and no half-decent condoms either, so we didn't really concern ourselves with that shit. I began using condoms when I moved to the States in the early 90's and learned all that shit about AIDS. And the prospect of an accidental offspring tying me down was terrifying too, so it was a no-brainer, really.
I must admit I do hate condoms, though, and getting older I hate them more and more, but the risk is real, and the alternatives are bleak.
Elvis 2008
03-26-21, 10:26
All I am saying is that when people pay more, they expect more. You are talking like $10 Santa Fe chicks pull out all the stops when they don't. You see all the time reports saying they had to pay extra for this that and the other at casas and the like.
Guys are not paying $90 per month for a subscription plus top money to these chicks to be limited in what they will do and be centavoed and pesoed for extras. The extras are coming with the price of admission.This is an interesting post, Mr. E, and it has been debated for decades. Do you get what you pay for? In general, I think it is true, but there are things more important than money for some women.
So one seeking girl I tell her my sugar daddy schtick, and she is down with being one of my SBs and I say I expect SBs to bareback me but she did not want to talk money but safety. She wanted to know if I had been tested, and I showed her my tests and then she was good to go with barebacking. So it was not money that did it.
She was really good in bed but I could tell she was not giving 100%, and I think she was uncertain about the whole arrangement. So my deal is that I am going to meet your needs more than just throw money at you. IMO if I direct a woman's money to health and education, she is going to be appreciative but if it goes to drugs and frivolous objects, she is not going to ever be satisfied and resentful.
Thing is that I do not really care how much I spend on items like health and education then as long as it really is going to that. I get that people may not buy this Biblical phrase from Jesus but I do. Jesus warned us about this when he said, "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal."
So my thing is that if you really try to improve the life of another person, you get rewarded for it maybe not right away but you do. That is what I mean by investment. So with her, she has anemia, an eye issue, and her knees are killing her. I go to a pharmacy and get her medications. All I ask for money wise is for generics, and when the bill comes due, I just paid it. It was less than a $100, but I really was not counting as the total got higher. I also bought her some tennis shoes and a bikini so she could swim in the hotel pool. A lot of times you do something to make someone feel better, and it is forgotten quickly, and I did not think I was going to get an immediate benefit to it.
But I was wrong. She loves her shoes. She feels great walking in them. She has taken her medication and feels better. When we get back to the hotel, she then throws me on the bed and fucks the shit out of me. This is what I knew was there and was hoping to get from her, genuine desire, and I am not sure you can really buy that. If I had paid this girl $500 and she felt lousy, I am not sure that she would have performed as she did.
The other parts that surprised me is that we go to the pool and she is so happy. She is like a five year old playing in the pool squealing with delight. And she tells the only person close to her in her life, her mother, what I did for her.
This is where being a SD versus a john comes in. Does any parent want to here, "Hey mom, I met this guy and he paid $500 to fuck me"? If you compare that to what she said, "Hey mom, I met this guy. He got me medication, and I feel better than I have in over a year", you get a different reaction. In this mother's case it was being on my side and her saying, "Do not lose this guy. " That is something very few here can relate to: mom being an advocate for you and not an enemy.
It is the same with the middle east guys flying chicks in to let them number 2 on them. Those are not $10 Santa Fe chicks agreeing to be shit on believe it or not. Those are chicks that probably not many of us on this board can afford.Maybe there are gals that the Middle East guys see that I have not, but I doubt it. I have fucked women who have gone to the Middle East. I have had a Penthouse Pet, been with the #1 escort on Big Dog back in the day, been with Maxim models, and porn stars, but the best women I have met from seeking are better than all of them.
JJBee has accused me of bragging about my best experiences, but the truth is that this past week in Bogota I had three below average and three great ones. The three great times were all with women I had seen before. I just think guys want to read more about the great times than the bad or average ones.
The best one was a model from the coast. The last time I went she ruined two days for me in Bogota because she fucked me for so hard and so long that she drained me. I did not see her a second time that trip and I really was not sure why. She was so hot and so good in bed, I had to think about why and subconsciously I rejected her thinking, "What is someone so hot and so good in bed doing with me? There must be something wrong with her. " Shit, she did not even ask for money.
But it was more the sex than the looks that was intimidating to me. She has a fashion model body which means long legs but small tits and her ass was not as tight as I like but having a looser ass meant there was a better wiggle when she walked.
So I think this woman could be a Price is Right Model but I am not sure she is in the top 10 looks wise of the women I have been with. What she did have and it may have been #1 in terms of looks was presence. When we went to the hotel restaurant, every guy stared. When we walked down the street at 8 AM and she is draped around me normally that would prevent other men from gawking. With her, it did not do shit. So many guys honked their horns at her, it was like she was going to cause an accident. And then when we were walking and pass a guy, it was like half the men stopped, turned back, and looked at her ass, and they were not subtle about it. What got me was that she was almost oblivious to it like this is normal for every woman. She was wearing a mini skirt, is tall, and showed off her legs and sexy walk. That is what made guys go nuts.
But it was the sex part that got me. The woman could not get enough. I had to pace myself with her and hold my back my cum this time so I was not drained and it worked. I was able to somewhat keep up with her and not get so drained.
Still, I had to know the why me part, right? So I basically asked and what she said, and I believe, is that I understood her so quickly. She gets bored easily and wants to engage in extreme activities to get her high, and I told her we would travel to places where she could do the extreme sports.
The other part is that not only did she have a very possessive ex boyfriend, but her older brother was obsessed with protecting her as well. The ex-BF went through her phone, demanded to know who she met with, demanded to know where she was all the time, and it wore her down. Once again, I knew the new was most important to her as was her freedom to do the new. So when I did my sugar daddy schtick and say when we are together, we are together but you can see whomever you want when we are apart (as can I), that was appealing to her.
I have paid for "the best" for and sometimes I got a great experience and sometimes I did not, but there is only one other time I have had a had a woman with as much passion to fuck with me as with this girl, and I am not sure if you can buy desire.
I talked to this girl about going to Mexico and hanging out with my two Mexican SBs and how much fun it would be. She hesitated. I wondered why. She didn't say no, but she was not enthusiastic about it. I woke up the next day and said to her "I know why you do not want to go with the other women. You are afraid you are not going to get enough sex." And she smiles and basically said yes. I have never had a hot woman worry about not getting enough sex.
I think this girl is in a freedom phase but eventually I am going to get old for her too. She will need a guy in her life that is going to force her to be organized, and that is not going to be me. So I doubt this is going to be a long ride with her, but I am going to enjoy the ride nonetheless.
So Mr. E I agree with you that if you paid 50,000 COP to the same girl that I paid 300,000 to, we would have the same sexual experience. I just am not so sure if you have a john mindset that all that matters is money that you get a girl like this. If she perceived that you were using money to control her, IMO she would not be open to you.
Again, I get that guys do not believe that a price is right type model fucked the shit out of me and did not ask for any money. I joked with one member here, "The guys here are not going to believe me. Shit, I was there, and I do not believe me", but it happened. And that is the other part, if you do not believe women like this exist, are you ever going to find one? I think the answer to that is no.
Well, you must be playing for Napoli then, LOL.Ha ha, nice one LOL.
Mr Enternational
03-26-21, 18:42
So I doubt this is going to be a long ride with her, but I am going to enjoy the ride nonetheless.You have to do that with everybody because you just don't know. I have talked to chicks and the next day they just disappear. Recently happened with a chick in Dominican Republic. Laughing and gigling one day and the next day she disappeared into thin air. Next time I was in town I went by the salon that she owns and it was still there but it was closed. No idea what the duck happened to her.
So Mr. E I agree with you that if you paid 50,000 COP to the same girl that I paid 300,000 to, we would have the same sexual experience. I just am not so sure if you have a john mindset that all that matters is money that you get a girl like this.What you describe is my definition of GFE. I see most guys saying it means whether the chick is going to kiss you or not, but that has never been my sense of the meaning. In the good old days in Rio damn near every chick was the way you described your interactions with this chick. And I guess that is why so many guys fell for them.
You did not look at them as hookers because they would hang out with you forever doing whatever so there seemed to be chemistry. I even had one that on Sundays I would gather my friends up and she would gather her friends up and we would go to the supermarket and they would make a big Sunday feast for us at her house. You can't buy that and it seems to be a lost art these days.
MarquisdeSade1
03-27-21, 02:17
This is an interesting post, Mr. E, and it has been debated for decades. Do you get what you pay for? In general, I think it is true, but there are things more important than money for some women.
So one seeking girl I tell her my sugar daddy schtick, and she is down with being one of my SBs and I say I expect SBs to bareback me but she did not want to talk money but safety. She wanted to know if I had been tested, and I showed her my tests and then she was good to go with barebacking. So it was not money that did it.
She was really good in bed but I could tell she was not giving 100%, and I think she was uncertain about the whole arrangement. So my deal is that I am going to meet your needs more than just throw money at you. IMO if I direct a woman's money to health and education, she is going to be appreciative but if it goes to drugs and frivolous objects, she is not going to ever be satisfied and resentful.
Thing is that I do not really care how much I spend on items like health and education then as long as it really is going to that. I get that people may not buy this Biblical phrase from Jesus but I do. Jesus warned us about this when he said, "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal.".Great post, I'm guessing you are speaking over the heads of most, you can't teach AP calculus to pre-schoolers Elvis.
Most guys are clueless including but maybe even especially the married non mongers.
This can be done on any stratum in the mongering or non mongers milieux.
LatinaLover#1
03-27-21, 03:45
This is an interesting post, Mr. E, and it has been debated for decades. Do you get what you pay for? In general, I think it is true, but there are things more important than money for some women.
So one seeking girl I tell her my sugar daddy schtick, and she is down with being one of my SBs and I say I expect SBs to bareback me but she did not want to talk money but safety. She wanted to know if I had been tested, and I showed her my tests and then she was good to go with barebacking. So it was not money that did it.
She was really good in bed but I could tell she was not giving 100%, and I think she was uncertain about the whole arrangement. So my deal is that I am going to meet your needs more than just throw money at you. IMO if I direct a woman's money to health and education, she is going to be appreciative but if it goes to drugs and frivolous objects, she is not going to ever be satisfied and resentful.
Thing is that I do not really care how much I spend on items like health and education then as long as it really is going to that. I get that people may not buy this Biblical phrase from Jesus but I do. Jesus warned us about this when he said, "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal."
So my thing is that if you really try to improve the life of another person, you get rewarded for it maybe not right away but you do. That is what I mean by investment. So with her, she has anemia, an eye issue, and her knees are killing her. I go to a pharmacy and get her medications. All I ask for money wise is for generics, and when the bill comes due, I just paid it. It was less than a $100, but I really was not counting as the total got higher. I also bought her some tennis shoes and a bikini so she could swim in the hotel pool. A lot of times you do something to make someone feel better, and it is forgotten quickly, and I did not think I was going to get an immediate benefit to it.
But I was wrong. She loves her shoes. She feels great walking in them. She has taken her medication and feels better. When we get back to the hotel, she then throws me on the bed and fucks the shit out of me. This is what I knew was there and was hoping to get from her, genuine desire, and I am not sure you can really buy that. If I had paid this girl $500 and she felt lousy, I am not sure that she would have performed as she did.
The other parts that surprised me is that we go to the pool and she is so happy. She is like a five year old playing in the pool squealing with delight. And she tells the only person close to her in her life, her mother, what I did for her.
This is where being a SD versus a john comes in. Does any parent want to here, "Hey mom, I met this guy and he paid $500 to fuck me"? If you compare that to what she said, "Hey mom, I met this guy. He got me medication, and I feel better than I have in over a year", you get a different reaction. In this mother's case it was being on my side and her saying, "Do not lose this guy. " That is something very few here can relate to: mom being an advocate for you and not an enemy.
Maybe there are gals that the Middle East guys see that I have not, but I doubt it. I have fucked women who have gone to the Middle East. I have had a Penthouse Pet, been with the #1 escort on Big Dog back in the day, been with Maxim models, and porn stars, but the best women I have met from seeking are better than all of them.
JJBee has accused me of bragging about my best experiences, but the truth is that this past week in Bogota I had three below average and three great ones. The three great times were all with women I had seen before. I just think guys want to read more about the great times than the bad or average ones.
The best one was a model from the coast. The last time I went she ruined two days for me in Bogota because she fucked me for so hard and so long that she drained me. I did not see her a second time that trip and I really was not sure why. She was so hot and so good in bed, I had to think about why and subconsciously I rejected her thinking, "What is someone so hot and so good in bed doing with me? There must be something wrong with her. " Shit, she did not even ask for money.
But it was more the sex than the looks that was intimidating to me. She has a fashion model body which means long legs but small tits and her ass was not as tight as I like but having a looser ass meant there was a better wiggle when she walked.
So I think this woman could be a Price is Right Model but I am not sure she is in the top 10 looks wise of the women I have been with. What she did have and it may have been #1 in terms of looks was presence. When we went to the hotel restaurant, every guy stared. When we walked down the street at 8 AM and she is draped around me normally that would prevent other men from gawking. With her, it did not do shit. So many guys honked their horns at her, it was like she was going to cause an accident. And then when we were walking and pass a guy, it was like half the men stopped, turned back, and looked at her ass, and they were not subtle about it. What got me was that she was almost oblivious to it like this is normal for every woman. She was wearing a mini skirt, is tall, and showed off her legs and sexy walk. That is what made guys go nuts.
But it was the sex part that got me. The woman could not get enough. I had to pace myself with her and hold my back my cum this time so I was not drained and it worked. I was able to somewhat keep up with her and not get so drained.
Still, I had to know the why me part, right? So I basically asked and what she said, and I believe, is that I understood her so quickly. She gets bored easily and wants to engage in extreme activities to get her high, and I told her we would travel to places where she could do the extreme sports.
The other part is that not only did she have a very possessive ex boyfriend, but her older brother was obsessed with protecting her as well. The ex-BF went through her phone, demanded to know who she met with, demanded to know where she was all the time, and it wore her down. Once again, I knew the new was most important to her as was her freedom to do the new. So when I did my sugar daddy schtick and say when we are together, we are together but you can see whomever you want when we are apart (as can I), that was appealing to her.
I have paid for "the best" for and sometimes I got a great experience and sometimes I did not, but there is only one other time I have had a had a woman with as much passion to fuck with me as with this girl, and I am not sure if you can buy desire.
I talked to this girl about going to Mexico and hanging out with my two Mexican SBs and how much fun it would be. She hesitated. I wondered why. She didn't say no, but she was not enthusiastic about it. I woke up the next day and said to her "I know why you do not want to go with the other women. You are afraid you are not going to get enough sex." And she smiles and basically said yes. I have never had a hot woman worry about not getting enough sex.
I think this girl is in a freedom phase but eventually I am going to get old for her too. She will need a guy in her life that is going to force her to be organized, and that is not going to be me. So I doubt this is going to be a long ride with her, but I am going to enjoy the ride nonetheless.
So Mr. E I agree with you that if you paid 50,000 COP to the same girl that I paid 300,000 to, we would have the same sexual experience. I just am not so sure if you have a john mindset that all that matters is money that you get a girl like this. If she perceived that you were using money to control her, IMO she would not be open to you.
Again, I get that guys do not believe that a price is right type model fucked the shit out of me and did not ask for any money. I joked with one member here, "The guys here are not going to believe me. Shit, I was there, and I do not believe me", but it happened. And that is the other part, if you do not believe women like this exist, are you ever going to find one? I think the answer to that is no.It's difficult to enjoy the typical Prepago. Over the years I've been lucky to meet my share of non pros or at least a chipper. I describe a chipper as a woman who will never be seen working the street or a place like SF. Most are students or single moms who need some help. Others are total non pros, we rarely mention money or time. As anyone of the senior members can attest to, is that in almost every Latin American country many secretaries, receptionists in hotels, shops can be had with a little game and a promise of a gift, or dinner or a little help. I've had more than my share of working girls over the years, The old tired bullshit of how much, for how long, what will she do bla ba bla.
I'm just not willing to go that way. One of my best experiences was in Lima. Met a knock out waitress in Pizza Alley near Parque Kennedy By the time me and a buddy finished the pizza I had her phone number, we met the next day, had lunch in Larcomar, I bought her a blouse in one of the shops and she stayed with me for 4 days, she would go to work in the pizza shop everyday and came right back to my hotel when her shift was over. She had a killer body and was A lot of fun, a really cool chick to be with. We had every type of sex you can think of, never spoke of money ever. I'm sure I gave her more than she was expecting but Girls do better with me if we don't get into negotiations. I saw here over and over again for the next few years, whenever I was in Lima, until she moved away. ;(My advise to any newbees in the hobby is to get out of apartments, the Mezzanine and SF and meet some local girls. Go to Unicento Commercial say Hi to any girl you like, start a conversation, invite her to coffee or a drink and you'll be amazed how open Latin women are to meeting you. I'd say you will land one out of 6 or 7.
Unless you look like Quasimodo jaja Happy hunting and stay safe.
Mr Enternational
03-27-21, 16:23
Met a knock out waitress in Pizza Alley near Parque Kennedy By the time me and a buddy finished the pizza I had her phone number, we met the next day, had lunch in Larcomar, I bought her a blouse in one of the shops and she stayed with me for 4 days, she would go to work in the pizza shop everyday and came right back to my hotel when her shift was over. She had a killer body and was A lot of fun, a really cool chick to be with. We had every type of sex you can think of, never spoke of money ever. I'm sure I gave her more than she was expecting but Girls do better with me if we don't get into negotiations.How did you determine that she was expecting anything at all?
Unless you look like Quasimodo jaja Happy hunting and stay safe.I'll stick my dick into almost anything if the price is right (free is best). I do love the connection you build with non pro's but that connection usually costs more at the end of the day. The older I get the more I want to hoard my money LOL.
LatinaLover#1
03-28-21, 02:14
I'll stick my dick into almost anything if the price is right (free is best). I do love the connection you build with non pro's but that connection usually costs more at the end of the day. The older I get the more I want to hoard my money LOL.I hear you, sometimes you pay them to leave jaja.
LatinaLover#1
03-28-21, 02:26
I've seen my fair share of ISG posters do this even to the extent of deluding themselves into believing these chicks aren't hookers at all."You fall in love with a hooker, your falling in love by yourself. ".
The Tall Man
03-28-21, 05:02
It's difficult to enjoy the typical Prepago. Over the years I've been lucky to meet my share of non pros or at least a chipper. I describe a chipper as a woman who will never be seen working the street or a place like SF. Most are students or single moms who need some help. Others are total non pros, we rarely mention money or time. As anyone of the senior members can attest to, is that in almost every Latin American country many secretaries, receptionists in hotels, shops can be had with a little game and a promise of a gift, or dinner or a little help. I've had more than my share of working girls over the years, The old tired bullshit of how much, for how long, what will she do bla ba bla.
I'm just not willing to go that way. One of my best experiences was in Lima. Met a knock out waitress in Pizza Alley near Parque Kennedy By the time me and a buddy finished the pizza I had her phone number, we met the next day, had lunch in Larcomar, I bought her a blouse in one of the shops and she stayed with me for 4 days, she would go to work in the pizza shop everyday and came right back to my hotel when her shift was over. She had a killer body and was A lot of fun, a really cool chick to be with. We had every type of sex you can think of, never spoke of money ever. I'm sure I gave her more than she was expecting but Girls do better with me if we don't get into negotiations. I saw here over and over again for the next few years, whenever I was in Lima, until she moved away..
I've seen my fair share of ISG posters do this even to the extent of deluding themselves into believing these chicks aren't hookers at all.
I hear you, sometimes you pay them to leave jaja.
"You fall in love with a hooker, your falling in love by yourself. ".Much love and respect to all but there is a reason why this expression has stood the test of time and experience, listen to it again, read it again, and again, and again, and again so it can sink in, here it goes:
"The only honest woman is a prostitute."
I have arrived, after countless decades participating in just about every different form and concoction regarding sex for pay and sex in return for some form of something of value and have come to the conclusion that I have total respect for the real honest prostitutes, their is no blah blah blah involved, they know what they do and say it like it is.
Those that you find on FaceBook or Tinder or SA or a Cupid site or Sugar Daddy site are all selling their pussy, period! And I love them all for it but just say it like it is.
The Tall Man.
I've seen my fair share of ISG posters do this even to the extent of deluding themselves into believing these chicks aren't hookers at all.Yes, many ISG posters even call them non-pros or ¨my girlfriend¨. LOL.
DramaFree11
03-28-21, 16:41
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Yes, many ISG posters even call them non-pros or my girlfriend. LOL.I have soooo. Many girlfriends. So many I can only them 1/2 hour every 2 weeks or so-- Special ones more often.
Elvis 2008
03-28-21, 20:50
I'll stick my dick into almost anything if the price is right (free is best). I do love the connection you build with non pro's but that connection usually costs more at the end of the day. The older I get the more I want to hoard my money LOL.Luminus,
I like your post the best. I can tell you are a seasoned pro to have made a comment like that. Yeah, the interesting thing is that you are right. Pro pussy costs less in strictly financial terms. That is why guys do it. One thing that bugged me is the more serious you get with a woman, the pussy seems to fade.
So yeah, I talked abut my banging the price is right model who was draped all over me when we went out from seeking.com. I didn't talk about the woman who asked for 300 k up front, was 20 lbs fatter than her pics, wanted everything covered, and when I kicked her out literally would have been more satisfied if I just masturbated. The thing I do not think guys get is that I get Price is Right model because I was always looking to find better. When you are doing seeking.com unlike hos, you do not have the benefit of reviews or women advertising what they offer sexually. It is the Wild West.
Because seeking is the Wild West, you can find anything there including a girlfriend. The concept that you should put a woman on a pedestal just because she advertises there is ludicrous as one poster here did. My story got cut off because I was harsh towards that poster, but I had one seeking woman insist on my getting sexually tested. The long and short of it is that I did, and everything was fine. However, the reason the seeking angel wanted testing was not for her to be safe but because she had herpes and was afraid she gave it to me. This story flies in the face of the poster thinking that Santa Fe working girls are diseased whereas seeking girls are pristine.
Thing is if you go into seeking with the mindset every woman is a working girl you will be treated like a john. If you have a mindset that allows you just the chance that a woman is not just a working girl, something guys say you are being naive in doing, then you are going to miss out on some great experiences. As Mr. E had pointed out to me and another poster, if she is not asking for money, why give her any? You should be open to the notion that she may like you for something other than money.
Luminus, I like what you said though with regards to how non-pros cost more than pros. The reason men often go the pro route is because the pros are cheaper. I am not sure Mr. E lets that happen. If not, then he truly is the master.
In Medellin, I have a woman I call my sugar baby wife. Unlike a hooker, she would do anything sexual I wanted, but she gets upset when she knows I see other women. I will say this though. When I am with her, I do not feel lonely and many times when I am with a working girl, I can feel more alone than if I were just by myself.
It is funny though if I did add up the amount of money I gave her not directly but how much she costed me (taking her family out to dinner, helping out with an expense) then yeah you are right. I think a pro would have been cheaper if you just count the sex. If you count the hours of companionship, then it would be no. If you put value on other things she did (massage, packing my suitcase, doing my laundry) then you could make the case she is a bargain.
The real issue is if you are using your money not only to put her on a pedestal but to pay for one. Inevitably, to paraphrase Rodney Dangerfield, most women go from giving great head to great headache while costing even more money. It is THAT part that guys need to be on the lookout for more than anything else.
To me, the issue of a title of wife or GF is often interpreted by women that they have to work less hard on a relationship than harder. I will say that is one of the things I have done with her that I have not in the past. I have told her that I do not want to hear her ***** about other women and have insisted that she is not my GF. I am not going to fall into that trap. Just because you are fucking me and like me does not mean you are my GF. You have to earn my monogamy and too many guys just throw it anyway. Men say, "Uh, Okay, we are fucking now, I guess the rules say I should only be fucking you." If rejecting that custom makes me an asshole, then so be it.
That is so much why that poster rubbed me the wrong way. On the one hand, you got a guy like him arguing that seeking girls are not like the ones on Santa Fe. Then you have some others saying there is no difference between seeking women and working girls. The reality is you get every kind of woman there is on seeking.com: from the hookers that make the ones on Santa Fe look like a bargain to the angels that are wife material.
But you are right Luminus, the angels usually do cost more than the hookers. LOL.
World Travel 69
03-31-21, 04:17
Shots.
You guys worthless, Unless you get your Shots.
Stop reporting Nothing.
I am trying to keep up the Map and Lists.
Report something Useful!
About where you get Laid and what is Open?
Please!
Luminus,
I like your post the best. I can tell you are a seasoned pro to have made a comment like that. Yeah, the interesting thing is that you are right. Pro pussy costs less in strictly financial terms. That is why guys do it. One thing that bugged me is the more serious you get with a woman, the pussy seems to fade.
So yeah, I talked abut my banging the price is right model who was draped all over me when we went out from seeking.com. I didn't talk about the woman who asked for 300 k up front, was 20 lbs fatter than her pics, wanted everything covered, and when I kicked her out literally would have been more satisfied if I just masturbated. The thing I do not think guys get is that I get Price is Right model because I was always looking to find better. When you are doing seeking.com unlike hos, you do not have the benefit of reviews or women advertising what they offer sexually. It is the Wild West.
Because seeking is the Wild West, you can find anything there including a girlfriend. The concept that you should put a woman on a pedestal just because she advertises there is ludicrous as one poster here did. My story got cut off because I was harsh towards that poster, but I had one seeking woman insist on my getting sexually tested. The long and short of it is that I did, and everything was fine. However, the reason the seeking angel wanted testing was not for her to be safe but because she had herpes and was afraid she gave it to me. This story flies in the face of the poster thinking that Santa Fe working girls are diseased whereas seeking girls are pristine...Dude,
You can't just let it go. You continue to comment on unrelated posts while desperately making connections to previous topics in an attempt to drag my name through the dirt. One minute you say that I'm putting girls on a pedestal by pointing out that seeking.com is not an escort site and has regular non-prostitutes on there. The next you're pointing out how if you treat every girl like a prostitute they'll all treat you like a John. You're a walking contradiction. I said it before, you weren't arguing like someone who wanted to understand the other side of the argument, you were arguing like someone with a personal vendetta against someone who you don't know so you are filling the gaps with presumptions, and that's what you continue to do.
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03-31-21, 22:32
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GringoTigre
03-31-21, 23:53
Luminus and Elvis-.
Fantastic posts. Among the most insightful in a while on the whole Pro vs NonPro.
No question that NonPro are more costly and consume a lot more hours. Each monger has their own objectives of course. For some, SF is the only way and anything else is a waste of time and money.
For me, top on my list is GFE. TLN or longer. Passion rather than appearance. Prefer MILF / maduro. Rather repeat with the same sure thing than roll the dice in search of something else.
Here's my take on the site options and what you find. I've been visiting to BOG often - 25 trips in 11 years. I really want to get your point of view and feel free to contradict, so have at it.
Pro sites in no particular order:
1- PhotoPrepago. Surprisingly what you see is what you get, 90% of the time for me. Quite different from similar sites in other countries where it's very likely that you get someone entirely different from what you see or photos are very old / retouched. Performance is YMMV. User reviews are sometimes accurate, sometimes fake.
2- mileroticos. Highest number of listings by far. More than a few are from casas or SF but will list that they are from elsewhere. In my experience, most unreliable (no show, no answer, different chica). Most numerous listings / most useful when traveling outside of BOG + MDE. But, I've also found some BOG gems here.
3- Niisha / solitasparati. Limited roster, but high quality. Not cheap.
4- LaCelestina. Looks great. Expensive. Very limited experience and I want to get your input.
Pro / NonPro:
1- SA. I'm only trying for the first time. It seems very different in COL than in US. Seems most profiles / chats I connect with are looking for husband rather than NSA.
2- CC. I've done 1 month memberships a few times over the past decade. Maybe it is me, but the demographic has changed. Seems it is filled with nonpros looking for marriage. You'll see honesta y fiel and similar listed in their description and what they are looking for. It will take a lot of time and effort, but can pay off for certain.
3- Chaturbate. I've been flamed and accused of making up stories, but I've found this to be a great source. You need to spend a lot of time sifting thru the thousands of Colombians there, but that can be enjoyable in itself. And for sure what you see is what you get. And yes, some who appear there also have a CC profile.
FB, Tinder, Twitter. Not my thing.
I'm sure I am missing some sites. Let's hear some replies. Some other points of view on the above.
I think in '91 I was the only person rooting for Sadaam because I hated the emiratis and kuwaitis so much.I think this article by you pretty much explains who you are and what you stand for.
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