Bogota Reports

[Woodman09]

Woodman you have my respect but I was looking for other resources to validate what you said and I cannot find it. Even Google can't give me updated information on the current lock down As of the last week.LOL, yeah I don't stay out that late. I can tell you though the clubs are open all night, some anyhow.

[Kib123]

Just to be clear this is the Embassy Suites you are referencing? https://goo.gl/maps/7KW75e4Pqi5WsawU7.

I am not going to stay near Santa Fe this time around and want to be center to alot of the casas. If this is the location you are referencing it seems to be in the middle of some nice places to see the ladies.

Showdown.Yeah that's the one. Typical setup as the US counterparts, but with better breakfast.

[JohnnyWalker55]

Woodman you have my respect but I was looking for other resources to validate what you said and I cannot find it. Even Google can't give me updated information on the current lock down As of the last week.At least in santafe / centro. no mask/mask on chin usually. police are there and dont care. Been smashing 4 vennies a day, I like them a lot more than rolas. Warmup the first one and second one I bust. Make sure you ask the 20 min room and not the 15 min room. They are charging 30-35 k including room. i can vouch for woodmans' intel, though quite unnecessary as his reputation precedes him

I don't go out past 10 either, but it's relatively safe. Ymmv depending on looks. But as far as mongering goes it is in full swing my friend. Tons of 8's all over. . esp by calle 19 carr 24ish, then work towards calle 16 and the perimeter of carr 20. at least 50+ girls that whole zone. watch out for underage, tons out there.

[Woodman09]

At least in santafe / centro. no mask/mask on chin usually. police are there and dont care. Been smashing 4 vennies a day, I like them a lot more than rolas. Warmup the first one and second one I bust. Make sure you ask the 20 min room and not the 15 min room. They are charging 30-35 k including room. i can vouch for woodmans' intel, though quite unnecessary as his reputation precedes him
Calle 23 and Cr 15 to CR 16 and Calle 24 and CR 15 are the Cutie Corners!

[Silver Turtle]

I went to another place for antigen test last week. A guy stuck, and almost hit, the stick in each nostril too harsh, and it hurt a lot. If it didn't happen to you, or other members, I would like to visit the clinic you visited next time.


I spent time online yesterday looking for a place to take the covid test. Everywhere was closed on Sunday (except for the airport which was full), but I managed to make reservations at 2 different Synlabs because I did not know if I would leave Chapinero and go stay downtown or not. Most places were wither 140,000 or 150,000. I had found one place for 100,000 but whenever I tried to pay online for that place it would give me an error message.

My ex-girlfriend from Cali flew back home last night so I had my nurse come over. I told her that I had to find a place to get a covid test. She told me that Cendiatra was good. No appointment needed. Takes 1 hour. And best of all 80,000 pesos.

This morning at 10:30 she left to go to a meeting. I booked a hotel near Atlantis Mall and called Cabify to take me to the clinic. We passed one and I shouted out. He said chill, you are in good hands. He dropped me off at the address. I went in and told the ladies I needed an antigen test. They said they did not do covid tests there, but gave me a slip of paper with another address. I asked if that was the one I had just passed and she said yes..

[TopoChico571]

Do any Bogota labs offer the Saliva sample PCR test, where all you do is spit in a cup? If not, how long do they stick the cotton swab down / up your nose?

[John Gault]

I spent time online yesterday looking for a place to take the covid test. Everywhere was closed on Sunday (except for the airport which was full), but I managed to make reservations at 2 different Synlabs because I did not know if I would leave Chapinero and go stay downtown or not. Most places were wither 140,000 or 150,000. I had found one place for 100,000 but whenever I tried to pay online for that place it would give me an error message.

My ex-girlfriend from Cali flew back home last night so I had my nurse come over. I told her that I had to find a place to get a covid test. She told me that Cendiatra was good. No appointment needed. Takes 1 hour. And best of all 80,000 pesos.

This morning at 10:30 she left to go to a meeting. I booked a hotel near Atlantis Mall and called Cabify to take me to the clinic. We passed one and I shouted out. He said chill, you are in good hands. He dropped me off at the address. I went in and told the ladies I needed an antigen test. They said they did not do covid tests there, but gave me a slip of paper with another address. I asked if that was the one I had just passed and she said yes.

It was raining a little, but I walked the few blocks with my suitcase back to the other location. I arrived at 12:15. There was one person being served at the counter and the line was outside. There was one guy in front of me. Other people lined up behind me. When the guy in front of me went some moron pulled up and went inside and got behind him ignoring the line. I did not say anything to him although I usually would.

I told the lady I was there for an antigen test. She asked if it was for some company or if I was doing it on my own. I gave her my passport and email and 80,000 pesos. She gave me a sheet to fill out about symptoms and if I had been anywhere that has covid or around anyone with covid. I was to fill that out and hand it to the lab tech that was going to call me.

The lab tech called and I went into the back room and sat in the chair. She had me lower my mask below my nose. She stuck the swab in each nostril and told me they would call me back to the desk with the results in 15 minutes. I went back out to wait and in 14 minutes they called me with the results. I was out of there at 12:59. So no appointment, 80,000 pesos, and 44 minutes arrival until departure.

Now I am at my hotel. I am going to catch a Cabify down to Santa Fe to see what is going on. Bogota is pretty much a ghost town. Some restaurants are open, but they are take away only. Everything else besides health centers and I guess supermarkets and convenience stores is closed.I see you mentioned the airport for a covid test. I am coming from San Andres and I don't know if there is a testing sight on the island. If there is not then I would need a test at the airport as I have a 3 hour layover which would make it tough to leave the airport for a test in town.

If there is a test spot on the Island then no problem.

[LatinaLover#1]

I see you mentioned the airport for a covid test. I am coming from San Andres and I don't know if there is a testing sight on the island. If there is not then I would need a test at the airport as I have a 3 hour layover which would make it tough to leave the airport for a test in town.

If there is a test spot on the Island then no problem.In Bogota I recommend https://vitalea.com/#/ home.

They are located on Cra 11 and Calle 93 a stones throw from Parque 93.

I had good luck here. My PCR test I got in the states was not accepted in Bogota so I got a pcr test here in Bogota and I was able to avoid self quarantine and continue on the Parque Tyrona and when I returned to Bogota I got the antigen test. I think it was $40 dollars or many be a few bucks less. The manager of the lab, Steve was excellent, he even gave me his cell phone number so I could contact him during the Semana Santa holiday when they were closed.

[Trim1]

My PCR test I got in the states was not accepted in Bogota so I got a pcr test here in Bogota and I was able to avoid self quarantine and continue on the Parque Tyrona and when I returned to Bogota I got the antigen test.Why wasn't your PCR test accepted? Do you have any advice for those of us who will be taking a PCR test in the USA for a trip to Colombia?

[Mr Enternational]

My PCR test I got in the states was not accepted in Bogota so I got a pcr test here in Bogota and I was able to avoid self quarantine .Why wasn't your PCR test accepted? They only look for 4 things: name, date, PCR, negative.

[LatinaLover#1]

Why wasn't your PCR test accepted? They only look for 4 things: name, date, PCR, negative.Only sent me an antigen test and I know I needed a PCR but I was careless and didn't look it over close enough before I got to the airport and in the last minute I was trying to reach someone who could help me in the lab here in the USA and she useless. So I boarded the flight knowing I would need to self quarantine in Colombia until I got the test. It all worked out ok. When I got back the owner of the lab here in South Carolina was very apologetic. In fact he gave me Carte Blanche in his optical store next to his pharmacy, eye exam, lenses, frames and a free PCR test in 2 weeks before I leave again for Bogota.

[GrownMan1]

Only sent me an antigen test and I know I needed a PCR but I was careless and didn't look it over close enough before I got to the airport and in the last minute I was trying to reach someone who could help me in the lab here in the USA and she useless. So I boarded the flight knowing I would need to self quarantine in Colombia until I got the test. It all worked out ok. When I got back the owner of the lab here in South Carolina was very apologetic. In fact he gave me Carte Blanche in his optical store next to his pharmacy, eye exam, lenses, frames and a free PCR test in 2 weeks before I leave again for Bogota.That's a common mistake. The last time I was in Columbia I met several people at the airport that made that mistake. On one occasion a man took the antigen test however Columbia wouldn't except it so he had to quarantine. He decided after five days he did not want to continue the quarantine. He went to take an antigen test to go back to the US. However, because he was still under quarantine; he had to produce a negative PCR test to leave Cartagena or Finish out his quarantine.

He missed his flight Because he could not get the PCR Within the time of his flight departure.

[LatinaLover#1]

Calle 23 and Cr 15 to CR 16 and Calle 24 and CR 15 are the Cutie Corners!Hey Woodman it would hep if you could post better pics of the women and their boyfriends, I'm sure. Better pics, if you have them could help guys stay of of trouble. Thanks.

[Showdown]

Guys I am getting confused and perhaps you can help me.

What is required (from a COVID perspective) to come in and out of Colombia? A COVID test before you leave (app, piece of paper etc) and another COVID test (app, piece of paper) someplace in Bogota in order to return?

Showdown.

[ChuchoLoco]

I am coming from San Andres How was it there? OK for a single guy or best with a companion? Have a feeling mostly families and couples but maybe I'm wrong.

[HelloIm]

If I got fully vaccinated, do I still need to produce these tests, or if I show my vaccination proof, I'm all good?

[Mr Enternational]

How was it there? OK for a single guy or best with a companion? Have a feeling mostly families and couples but maybe I'm wrong.Correct. Families and couples. Do not go alone. Great place and not as expensive as I thought it would be. You will think it is more Jamaica and not Colombia. If it was not for the license plates on the cars, you would not know it is Colombia. Pretty much everybody is Black speaks English.

[Mr Enternational]

If I got fully vaccinated, do I still need to produce these tests, or if I show my vaccination proof, I'm all good?I do not know anywhere in the world that proof of vaccination means anything. That is just a souvenir for you to keep. You get no special privileges.

[Mr Enternational]

Guys I am getting confused and perhaps you can help me.

What is required (from a COVID perspective) to come in and out of Colombia? A COVID test before you leave (app, piece of paper etc) and another COVID test (app, piece of paper) someplace in Bogota in order to return?

Showdown.Come in: 1. Negative PCR test. 2. Immigration document.

Go out: 1. Immigration document + whatever else is required for the country you are going to.

[ChuchoLoco]

Correct. Families and couples. Do not go alone. Great place and not as expensive as I thought it would be. You will think it is more Jamaica and not Colombia. If it was not for the license plates on the cars, you would not know it is Colombia. Pretty much everybody is Black speaks English.Sounds pretty good, will have to find a compatible and deserving companion. I like that island attitude. Thanks for the 411.

[LatinaLover#1]

Why wasn't your PCR test accepted? They only look for 4 things: name, date, PCR, negative.Had a form where you could check off the applicable box, Antigen, PCR ect. I never looked that close and it was my fault I didn't catch it in time, when I was fully aware I needed a PCR. I've been through the process enough times during the pandemic, 4 to Colombia so I should know better.

[MongerHunger]

I do not know anywhere in the world that proof of vaccination means anything. That is just a souvenir for you to keep. You get no special privileges.You can now enter Greece if you are fully vaccinated in lieu of the COVID test. That seems to be some kind of privilege especially if your COVID Vaccination was free.

[MongerHunger]

I see you mentioned the airport for a covid test. I am coming from San Andres and I don't know if there is a testing sight on the island. If there is not then I would need a test at the airport as I have a 3 hour layover which would make it tough to leave the airport for a test in town.

If there is a test spot on the Island then no problem.I took the COVID test at Bogota airport about 2 weeks ago at the SYNLAB building. It was easy and convenient. I didn't even have an appointment. Results were emailed to me in 2 hours. They take card or cash.

[Xpartan]

I do not know anywhere in the world that proof of vaccination means anything. That is just a souvenir for you to keep. You get no special privileges.Even today you can go to: Belize, Greece, Iceland, Croatia, Montenegro and a few other countries, and if you're fully vaccinated -- no tests are required for entry. Soon, the EU will open up too.

[John Gault]

How was it there? OK for a single guy or best with a companion? Have a feeling mostly families and couples but maybe I'm wrong.My mistake. I should of said I'm will be coming from ADZ.

[John Gault]

Even today you can go to: Belize, Greece, Iceland, Croatia, Montenegro and a few other countries, and if you're fully vaccinated -- no tests are required for entry. Soon, the EU will open up too.Add Ecuador to the list. I was there in early May with only my vaccine card.

[Showdown]

Come in: 1. Negative PCR test. 2. Immigration document.

Go out: 1. Immigration document + whatever else is required for the country you are going to.By immigration document I am sure you mean passport. Thats obvious I need that. And I am returning to the US.

[Mr Enternational]

By immigration document I am sure you mean passport. Thats obvious I need that. And I am returning to the US.No. I mean the form that you have to fill out online. For the USA you need antigen or PCR test.

[Woodman09]

So I just met this SuperCute redhead Venezolana white girl at one of the clubs-- she is maybe 5', 90 lbs, 22 yo.

HS dreamgirl She knows how to take care of me.

So compliant accept no BBBJ yet. What I like is she is a little sex-bomb. She likes me dominating her.

She is a petite girl and has trouble taking my big dick, LOL, She could not take doggie style but we figured out if I bang her from behind.

While she is flattened out she can handle it and seems to really enjoy. She was very enthusiastic in helping me figure out the best way to bang her.

I'm her GringoDaddy.

I even busted the condom and came in her and she was not even mad-- That was hot, banging her raw.

Did 2 sessions with her Saturday and 2 sessions with her last night-- I really like the clubs because you can find a a real hot girl, bang her, party with her downstairs and bang her again.

I was paying 50-60 mil a session.

So many hot girls in the street, It's all good.

Photos of various SG hotel rooms.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tbT-clMmubsEfkuE8JacSuVVz2O6k0yl/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1td5_yfvLrBNW3n6ecmRtDYHnS_M70CYd/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tdmGJdhISvW9DXLfFSFASaNwZVri1W0E/view?usp=sharing

[Balboa]

Even today you can go to: Belize, Greece, Iceland, Croatia, Montenegro and a few other countries, and if you're fully vaccinated -- no tests are required for entry. Soon, the EU will open up too.Yep, today I read that the Prime Minister of Spain said June 7th, the day the COVID vaccinated could begin to enter his country, untested.

[Kafka]

No. I mean the form that you have to fill out online. For the USA you need antigen or PCR test.Imig Colombia.

[Xpartan]

Add Ecuador to the list. I was there in early May with only my vaccine card.Yeah, Ecuador too, except still need a test for Galapagos. Also Guatemala, Georgia, Spain as Balboa noticed. Italy is also accessible on special vaccinated flights. I think most countries will open up pretty soon to vaccinated travelers or face huge losses from the lack of tourism. Get those jabs, fellas, there is no downside. At least science says so. Not having to go through these PCR tests when you don't know if you get them in time, is a huge deal, IMHO.

[BigButtDetecto]

Yeah, Ecuador too, except still need a test for Galapagos. Also Guatemala, Georgia, Spain as Balboa noticed. Italy is also accessible on special vaccinated flights. I think most countries will open up pretty soon to vaccinated travelers or face huge losses from the lack of tourism. Get those jabs, fellas, there is no downside. At least science says so. Not having to go through these PCR tests when you don't know if you get them in time, is a huge deal, IMHO.Trying to explain to antivaxers how immunity works is same as explaining to a 4 years old why the moon does not fall down to the earth.

[PVMonger]

Trying to explain to antivaxers how immunity works is same as explaining to a 4 years old why the moon does not fall down to the earth.You win the internet today!

[IronQuinn]

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[MarquisdeSade1]

Even a Chino looks big when they go for girls who look like little boys. I know there's plenty of curvy dark meat in SF if you want a real woman. You should try it sometime.I've seen what you're talking about that shit makes me want to vomit.

No gracias.

Real woman? Maybe real land whale? Or real buffalo?

[JohnnyO]

Hey buddy, trying to send you a PM but your inbox is full.


So I just met this SuperCute redhead Venezolana white girl at one of the clubs-- she is maybe 5', 90 lbs, 22 yo.

HS dreamgirl She knows how to take care of me.

So compliant accept no BBBJ yet. What I like is she is a little sex-bomb. She likes me dominating her.

She is a petite girl and has trouble taking my big dick, LOL, She could not take doggie style but we figured out if I bang her from behind.

While she is flattened out she can handle it and seems to really enjoy. She was very enthusiastic in helping me figure out the best way to bang her.

I'm her GringoDaddy.

I even busted the condom and came in her and she was not even mad-- That was hot, banging her raw.

Did 2 sessions with her Saturday and 2 sessions with her last night-- I really like the clubs because you can find a a real hot girl, bang her, party with her downstairs and bang her again.

I was paying 50-60 mil a session.

So many hot girls in the street, It's all good.

Photos of various SG hotel rooms.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tbT-clMmubsEfkuE8JacSuVVz2O6k0yl/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1td5_yfvLrBNW3n6ecmRtDYHnS_M70CYd/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tdmGJdhISvW9DXLfFSFASaNwZVri1W0E/view?usp=sharing

[Woodman09]

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[Woodman09]

Hey buddy, trying to send you a PM but your inbox is full.OK, I PMed you also, I PMed.

[Woodman09]

You win the internet today!The Winners of the Covid Vax Lotto do Not Get Rich.

[Woodman09]

I've seen what you're talking about that shit makes me want to vomit.

No gracias.

Real woman? Maybe real land whale? Or real buffalo?I have so many GFs in Santa Fe-- Skinny girls, plumpers-- That's the Beauty of Santa Fe-- Fantastic variety-- I Love Boning FatGirls!

[Dg8787]

The Winners of the Covid Vax Lotto do Not Get Rich.It does carry a lifetime guarantee!

[Elvis 2008]

Trying to explain to antivaxers how immunity works is same as explaining to a 4 years old why the moon does not fall down to the earth.BBD, I think you are trying to make fun of Republicans who are skeptical of scientists. Given what was peddled as the origins of the virus, a bat bit a pangolin and never identified pangolin ran 1,000 miles to a wet market, your Democrat douche method of pushing "science" has lost all credibility. The alternate theory, that the Chinese were working on gain of function with coronavirus in the lab, is IMO a million times more likely.

So we have the same "scientists" now pushing immunization? I got my vaccine, and I want others to get it, but your method calling antivaxxers stupid is not the way to get it done. Your Democratic douche arrogance is ridiculous and that you are bringing that douche arrogance to a hooker board shows how warped you are. Quit being so political and so arrogant.

[Woodman09]

So we have the same "scientists" now pushing immunization? I got my vaccine, and I want others to get it, but your method calling antivaxxers stupid is not the way to get it done. Your Democratic douche arrogance is ridiculous and that you are bringing that douche arrogance to a hooker board shows how warped you are. Quit being so political and so arrogant.LOL, RIP Marvin Hagler.

[TopoChico571]

I went to another place for antigen test last week. A guy stuck, and almost hit, the stick in each nostril too harsh, and it hurt a lot. If it didn't happen to you, or other members, I would like to visit the clinic you visited next time.FYI, looks like at least this lab is doing a saliva test. Not sure if you just spit in a cup or they make you deep throat a cotton swab. Email is on the page, so feel free to reach out to them:

https://medicinaintegrativabogota.com/toma-de-muestra-covid-19

Anyone find or know of any others? No way I'm getting a nasal test:

https://youtu.be/DI56XVPb_8s

[Xpartan]

Trying to explain to antivaxers how immunity works is same as explaining to a 4 years old why the moon does not fall down to the earth.I'm not trying to "bridge the great divide. " I just believe in the power of self-interest. If a vaccine opens a locked door or at least helps you avoid a PCR test that may or may not arrive in time for your flight, some will take it even if they don't believe in science or medicine. Others won't no matter what. To each their own.

[Woodman09]

I'm not trying to "bridge the great divide. " I just believe in the power of self-interest. If a vaccine opens a locked door or at least helps you avoid a PCR test that may or may not arrive in time for your flight, some will take it even if they don't believe in science or medicine. Others won't no matter what. To each their own.I just want the card and no vax.

[MarquisdeSade1]

BBD, I think you are trying to make fun of Republicans who are skeptical of scientists. Given what was peddled as the origins of the virus, a bat bit a pangolin and never identified pangolin ran 1,000 miles to a wet market, your Democrat douche method of pushing "science" has lost all credibility. The alternate theory, that the Chinese were working on gain of function with coronavirus in the lab, is IMO a million times more likely.

So we have the same "scientists" now pushing immunization? I got my vaccine, and I want others to get it, but your method calling antivaxxers stupid is not the way to get it done. Your Democratic douche arrogance is ridiculous and that you are bringing that douche arrogance to a hooker board shows how warped you are. Quit being so political and so arrogant.There are anti vaxxers on the left and the right, the hippie types that don't like vaxs or chlorine etc.

I'm guessing there are more anti vaxxers on the left than the right.

BTW I recd my Moderna vax in Sept LOL.

Science and politics don't mix.

Once an issue enters the political realm, it is no longer scientific.

It has been tainted.

Politics destroy the credibility of anything it comes in contact with, left or right.

BTW I hate both parties LOL.

Depending on the day of the week.

Sometimes one more than the other.

I am very pro vax but I don't want the govt telling me what to do.

What turd come up with the bullshit "idea" of passports for travel?

[John Gault]

I'm not trying to "bridge the great divide. " I just believe in the power of self-interest. If a vaccine opens a locked door or at least helps you avoid a PCR test that may or may not arrive in time for your flight, some will take it even if they don't believe in science or medicine. Others won't no matter what. To each their own.That is my concern also. " A PCR test that may or may not arrive in time for your flight. ".

The fools in charge want everyone to get the shots but offer no incentive to get them to people who are afraid of possible long term side effects. Gee how about the USA letting you in if you have proof of a vaccine card?

[Mr Enternational]

That is my concern also. " A PCR test that may or may not arrive in time for your flight. ".

The fools in charge want everyone to get the shots but offer no incentive to get them to people who are afraid of possible long term side effects. Gee how about the USA letting you in if you have proof of a vaccine card?I would think the incentive is to live and/or not get sick. Or do you mean bribe or payment? I am not getting any shots and make my own tests and vaccine card, so something not arriving in time is not my concern. It is not getting the vaccine that will open a locked door or help you avoid a PCR test, but PROOF that you have gotten the vaccine that will.

[Routard]

The fools in charge want everyone to get the shots but offer no incentive to get them to people who are afraid of possible long term side effects. When Pfizzer came with Viagra, you didn't have any concern about any kind of long term side effects, did you??

[Elvis 2008]

When Pfizzer came with Viagra, you didn't have any concern about any kind of long term side effects, did you??Yeah, I did. I read the insert, got scared, and threw the Viagra pills in the toilet. Problem was my toilet seat would not come down for 4 hours.

[Woodman09]

When Pfizzer came with Viagra, you didn't have any concern about any kind of long term side effects, did you??Viagra is a Full Tested drug the Vax is Not-- RIP Marvin Hagler.

[Xpartan]

I just want the card and no vax.


I would think the incentive is to live and/or not get sick. Or do you mean bribe or payment? I am not getting any shots and make my own tests and vaccine card, so something not arriving in time is not my concern. It is not getting the vaccine that will open a locked door or help you avoid a PCR test, but PROOF that you have gotten the vaccine that will.Aside from morality or rather immorality, people have found themselves in deep shit for doing that.

https://travelnoire.com/7-charged-us-virgin-islands-fake-covid-test

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/08/994967439/california-man-arrested-in-suspected-fake-covid-19-vaccine-card-operation

Maybe the risk is small, but why in the holy name of crap risk it at all?

Do J&J. One painless shot and you're done.

Why do people love drama so much?

[John Gault]

When Pfizzer came with Viagra, you didn't have any concern about any kind of long term side effects, did you??I have no concern for long term side effects as I already got both my shots.

My point is I feel the USA should honor the vaccine card instead of having to jump thru hoops with all these tests.

I think if the USA wants heard immunity then a small incentive like giving the Vaccine card a little weight would make some people take the vaccine.

To tell the truth the only reason I took the shots was in the hope it would help me to travel. When I went to Ecuador I was able to get in the country with my card.

[NeilGeorge]

When Pfizzer came with Viagra, you didn't have any concern about any kind of long term side effects, did you??My dick is already hanging down in the dirt. And hard all day for the past 12 years. That is long term isn't it?

[JohnnyWalker55]

Guys srsly what are we 12 years old arguing about vaccines in a Bogota working girl thread? Cmon who cares let's talk putas.

Leaving Bogota after an extended stay in santa fe. What is there to say?

I summed up the routine in the earlier posts, the talent is the best in the western hemisphere right now in that 4 block radius, beats centro mde + mexico no doubt, but Brazil gets the egde service wise... not sure about the dr talent level. if you speak spanish you will be at an advantage and if you dont vice versa... ymmv

But so many solid 8's that could be ig models going for 35 k including room it's unreal, you like to party there's all the cheap drugs you like. ask the street vendors selling candy what guy is selling what. I didn't hit any nightclubs as it interfered with work, but no matter the protests or whatever all around zona norte and la septima there were always girls on the streets.

If you like pure quantity, talent, etc. Santa fe is amazing. Not to mention the modern apartments just 5-6 blocks away with hot water, washer dryer, gym, etc.

This is the real sin city!!

[Mr Enternational]

Aside from morality or rather immorality, people have found themselves in deep shit for doing that. Maybe the risk is small, but why in the holy name of crap risk it at all? Why do people love drama so much?People say the same thing about fucking hookers and even fucking regular chicks for that matter. Is it worth the risk?

All I know is that I have been to 9 countries multiple times since this thing started and have come into close contact with tens of thousands of people and have not gotten sick. Others are afraid to leave the house unless they get a "jab". At this point I see no reason to shoot myself up with some newly created vaccine because it is being said that I should or need it when I have been fine without it.

[LivingFossil]

Guys srsly what are we 12 years old arguing about vaccines in a Bogota working girl thread? Cmon who cares let's talk putas.

Leaving Bogota after an extended stay in santa fe. What is there to say?

I summed up the routine in the earlier posts, the talent is the best in the western hemisphere right now in that 4 block radius, beats centro mde + mexico no doubt, but Brazil gets the egde service wise... not sure about the dr talent level. if you speak spanish you will be at an advantage and if you dont vice versa... ymmv

But so many solid 8's that could be ig models going for 35 k including room it's unreal, you like to party there's all the cheap drugs you like. ask the street vendors selling candy what guy is selling what. I didn't hit any nightclubs as it interfered with work, but no matter the protests or whatever all around zona norte and la septima there were always girls on the streets.

If you like pure quantity, talent, etc. Santa fe is amazing. Not to mention the modern apartments just 5-6 blocks away with hot water, washer dryer, gym, etc.

This is the real sin city!!I went to Santa Fe two nights a few years ago and the taxi driver who took me told me it is extremely dangerous at night and said don't walk one block off where the main clubs are.

I've walked around MDE Centro and Tijuana Zona Norte at night tons of times alone and felt safe. I dress down and look Latino though. Does anyone think Santa Fe is that much more dangerous?

I am sure its kinda safe in the daytime?

[MarquisdeSade1]

Guys srsly what are we 12 years old arguing about vaccines in a Bogota working girl thread? Cmon who cares let's talk putas.

Leaving Bogota after an extended stay in santa fe. What is there to say?

I summed up the routine in the earlier posts, the talent is the best in the western hemisphere right now in that 4 block radius, beats centro mde + mexico no doubt, but Brazil gets the egde service wise... not sure about the dr talent level. if you speak spanish you will be at an advantage and if you dont vice versa... ymmv

But so many solid 8's that could be ig models going for 35 k including room it's unreal, you like to party there's all the cheap drugs you like. ask the street vendors selling candy what guy is selling what. I didn't hit any nightclubs as it interfered with work, but no matter the protests or whatever all around zona norte and la septima there were always girls on the streets.

If you like pure quantity, talent, etc. Santa fe is amazing. Not to mention the modern apartments just 5-6 blocks away with hot water, washer dryer, gym, etc.

This is the real sin city!!The forum mostly is opinion, but can you please post a foto of something you consider an 8 IG model.

I saw many below 8, maybe one 8, I really really love Latinas but not those loud mouth, she was one of those.

I'm guessing sex with her would be a boner killer even with Vita V.

I saw a couple 7's and many many 4's 5's 6's.

Yes there is quantity, the quality isn't that great, nor is the service.

I can tell you if you take a puta in SF for 35 room included, you aren't getting an 8 ig model, at least not in my book.

Thanks for the post.

If you can please post a foto for a reference point.

For anyone that's been to the ZN in Tijuana, I can say the quality is comparable.

Same BS service.

SF wins with quantity.

SF reminded me of Tijuana sans Hong Kong.

Just dirtier and more dangerous.

[JohnnyWalker55]

I went to Santa Fe two nights a few years ago and the taxi driver who took me told me it is extremely dangerous at night and said don't walk one block off where the main clubs are.

I've walked around MDE Centro and Tijuana Zona Norte at night tons of times alone and felt safe. I dress down and look Latino though. Does anyone think Santa Fe is that much more dangerous?

I am sure its kinda safe in the daytime?The taxi drivers tell me the same thing everytime I get dropped off at my place which was like 3 blocks from santa fe. They were surprised I stayed there. I find Colombia very classist....I would walk around at 1030pm thru centro with a spliff, dressed down, and feel fine. mde centro and tj are prettty much the same imo if you dont look like a mark

And marquis, go see for yourself. we all have different tastes brother.

[Mr Enternational]

I went to Santa Fe two nights a few years ago and the taxi driver who took me told me it is extremely dangerous at night and said don't walk one block off where the main clubs are.

I've walked around MDE Centro and Tijuana Zona Norte at night tons of times alone and felt safe. I dress down and look Latino though. Does anyone think Santa Fe is that much more dangerous?Had you asked a Tijuana or a Medellin taxi driver, then they would have said the same thing as the Bogota taxi driver. Use your own judgment and do what you are comfortable with.

[LatinaLover#1]

My novia has told me that things are getting worse in the south. They have now resorted to destroying the traffic lights and have created total chaos and much of the south is cut off to travel, With the traffic lights out and half of the TransMilenio out of commission its a nightmare for many who live south of a certain point. These are not the common working people doing these riots. She has told me it is suspected that many are anarchists' from the likes of FARC and are paying hundreds of the displaced Venezuelans to do as much destruction to the country in an effort to take down the system of government in Colombia. If that's true, I don't see Bogota or any of the large cities getting back to normal anytime soon. One bright note, there is a March of the law abiding citizens today called the 'March of silence' in hopes of stopping the violence outnumbering the anarchists. Let's hope this beautiful country and the vast majority of Colombians can overcome this threat.

[JohnnyO]

Where did you stay in Bogotá and how does the service in Sante Fe compare to MDE Centro, I ask that mainly because from the Bogota reports I get the impression of a knock on the dorr after 20 minutes which seems to happen in all short time rooms there which doesn't normally happen in MDE.


Guys srsly what are we 12 years old arguing about vaccines in a Bogota working girl thread? Cmon who cares let's talk putas.

Leaving Bogota after an extended stay in santa fe. What is there to say?

I summed up the routine in the earlier posts, the talent is the best in the western hemisphere right now in that 4 block radius, beats centro mde + mexico no doubt, but Brazil gets the egde service wise... not sure about the dr talent level. if you speak spanish you will be at an advantage and if you dont vice versa... ymmv

But so many solid 8's that could be ig models going for 35 k including room it's unreal, you like to party there's all the cheap drugs you like. ask the street vendors selling candy what guy is selling what. I didn't hit any nightclubs as it interfered with work, but no matter the protests or whatever all around zona norte and la septima there were always girls on the streets.

If you like pure quantity, talent, etc. Santa fe is amazing. Not to mention the modern apartments just 5-6 blocks away with hot water, washer dryer, gym, etc.

This is the real sin city!!

[MarquisdeSade1]

we all have different tastes brother.Yes I respect that we do, within reason LOL.

Sure some like diff body types, but I think the face is mostly what dictates a score, so an 8 to you or I.

Should be somewhere in the same galaxy.

But many many of the putas there are way to old to be hooking, at least for me.

I don't want putas in their 30's or 40's, and yes some are older than that.

I was walking past Piscina on the opposite side of the street, there was an old woman, high heels, and a bikini with no material.

Just the strings, as a bra, and just a string shaped bikini as the bottom as well, she was old, I'm not sure but I'm guessing.

Late 60's, and yes I'm a sick fuck I looked down at her snatch, completely shaved, and looked like a pug dogs face LOL.

I appreciate your report but to say lots of 8's can be misleading to some that want to visit.

Maybe you can go to IG and pull up a foto that you think represents an 8 in SF.

I think you can use 3 scores if you want, 1 for face, 1 for body, 1 for service.

If you ask me IMO the lowest scores for SF goto service and personality.

There are lots of bitchy putas out there, I'm not saying all, just too many for me.

[JohnnyWalker55]

Where did you stay in Bogot and how does the service in Sante Fe compare to MDE Centro, I ask that mainly because from the Bogota reports I get the impression of a knock on the dorr after 20 minutes which seems to happen in all short time rooms there which doesn't normally happen in MDE.Yup fair enough marquis, I've been to various cities in Brazil, mexico, and Colombia this year, just going off my comparisons. ID say an 8 is a good looking college chick in the states.

Johnny o, def a lot more knocking than mde centro. There they almost never knock before 30 min. Have to be clear to the girl in santa fe with the girl you want the 20 min room and you should be good for that time around 30-35 k room included, for 30 min they were upcharging 50-60 k inc room but maybe cause my accent isn't local. Though I don't get with ugly girls, at least sevens with a pretty face, no fatties. Ymmv.

[Woodman09]

Yes I respect that we do, within reason LOL.

Sure some like diff body types, but I think the face is mostly what dictates a score, so an 8 to you or I.

Should be somewhere in the same galaxy.

But many many of the putas there are way to old to be hooking, at least for me.

I don't want putas in their 30's or 40's, and yes some are older than that.

I was walking past Piscina on the opposite side of the street, there was an old woman, high heels, and a bikini with no material.

Just the strings, as a bra, and just a string shaped bikini as the bottom as well, she was old, I'm not sure but I'm guessing.

Late 60's, and yes I'm a sick fuck I looked down at her snatch, completely shaved, and looked like a pug dogs face LOL..Not sure where you were or when? But 90%(low estimate) of the girls in Santa Fe are 18-early 20's-- Many HS-College types.

Many recent posts from others here will corroborate this.

I just started banging a really hot girl that looks like young Bridgett Fonda.

Very few old ladies there. There is a stroll on Calle 19 and CR 13 where they are.

I have Many photos to prove it. But I do not want to post them.

[Mr Enternational]

ID say an 8 is a good looking college chick in the states.That is pretty vague. The only concrete objective thing in this is college student. Without pictures 8 and good looking mean nothing, because everybody's idea of each is different. I have seen guys walking around proud to be with what I could not figure out was either a monster or a man, and I am sure vice versa.

A female comedian once said that it seems like guys find one thing that they like in a chick and they roll with that. To some guys all that matters is if she is Black, to others it only matters that she is White, to others only if she is no more than 90 pounds, and yet others if she is at least 180 pounds.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Not sure where you were or when? But 90%(low estimate) of the girls in Santa Fe are 18-early 20's-- Many HS-College types.

Many recent posts from others here will corroborate this.

I just started banging a really hot girl that looks like young Bridgett Fonda.

Very few old ladies there. There is a stroll on Calle 19 and CR 13 where they are.

I have Many photos to prove it. But I do not want to post them.Lets define old, when I think of paying for P4P I think of Asia, where over 25 is over the hill.

In SF if you walk around the block, between 23 y 24,90% are probably over 25.

Almost all with 1, 2, or 3 babies, no gracias.

Some 25-30, many between 30-40 many over 40.

Go to BKK 99% around nana are under 25 yo.

When I'm in BKK I considered them over the hill once they say over 20 yo.

I don't want to pay for chicas with babies, I'm guessing 99% of the chicas in SF have babies and at least some baby damage.

Not the case in BKK or even Tijuana.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Not sure where you were or when? But 90%(low estimate) of the girls in Santa Fe are 18-early 20's-- Many HS-College types.

Many recent posts from others here will corroborate this.

I just started banging a really hot girl that looks like young Bridgett Fonda.

Very few old ladies there. There is a stroll on Calle 19 and CR 13 where they are.

I have Many photos to prove it. But I do not want to post them.I think your 90% is way way off, don't get me wrong, I did very well in Bogota, just not SF.

I had a couple good sessions in SF, but even if you're counting those chicas that don't look legal to me, that number is still crazy high.

The 1st thing I ask to see their cedula, no cedula adios, they don't count to me because they shouldn't even be out there, I don't know if you are adding them in.

Also if you walk by Monaco, there are a few under 30, but the quality is pretty fucking bad over there.

I love Bogota I found some awesome gems, the food isn't as bad as some write, and either is the weather, I like the climate.

The Colombians are really nice, nicer than I expected.

Will I return, I'm pretty sure BKK used to be my fav city after Moscow was and Vancouver BC.

Bogota is a very cool town.

I used to love Asia but that long flight, the monster size rats and monster cucarachas and the stifling jungle heat, are a bit much.

I think Latinos are nicer than Asians IMO.

I didn't use a hand counter like I doubt you did, but I could just say flip that 90% and say 90% are too old.

Sure there were a few approx 20 yo, like surfer complains about in MDE they're standing around with their novias and his friends smoking.

All with their stiff baseball hats.

And those chicas like to say loudly, todo con condom.

Ill be 54 soon, no gracias.

Wood, you wrote the other day you were banging some chica todo con condom in a club, I don't want that for free.

Let alone pay for it, and repeat.

You couldn't pay me, no gracias.

I will try to write some comprehensive posts when I get a chance.

Lastly the clubs? I was in almost everyone, they suck.

Maybe the worst "strip clubs" in the world.

[Silver Turtle]

Mr. E, when you had the antigen test, was it painful?

Thanks.


Why wasn't your PCR test accepted? They only look for 4 things: name, date, PCR, negative.

[Taiwan Laowai]

Yes, the majority of the girls I've seen in Santa Fe do not look that young. Most are probably somewhere in the middle. I think the 18-23-year-olds tend to hang on one block in front of a club (one side is opposite that street that goes to the convenient chicken and fish restaurant). I asked one girl walking across from Piscina how old she was (I was thinking early 30s) and she told me 41. I appreciated her honesty. If you aren't drunk or high, you will probably get a more realistic view. The majority already have children and somewhat aged. The youngest ones for the most part hang in a certain area with each other so they are easy to find. Though they also roam around a bit. The thing is, if you stick with the ones who look a bit older, you never have to worry about whether or not the girl is old enough or scrutinize the cedula which could be fake anyway.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Yes, the majority of the girls I've seen in Santa Fe do not look that young. Most are probably somewhere in the middle. I think the 18-23-year-olds tend to hang on one block in front of a club (one side is opposite that street that goes to the convenient chicken and fish restaurant). I asked one girl walking across from Piscina how old she was (I was thinking early 30s) and she told me 41. I appreciated her honesty. If you aren't drunk or high, you will probably get a more realistic view. The majority already have children and somewhat aged. The youngest ones for the most part hang in a certain area with each other so they are easy to find. Though they also roam around a bit. The thing is, if you stick with the ones who look a bit older, you never have to worry about whether or not the girl is old enough or scrutinize the cedula which could be fake anyway.You never have to worry about whether or not the girl is old enough or scrutinize the cedula which could be fake anyway.

Some guys should ask themselves, how much is a 3rd world pop worth to them? 5 usd? 10 usd? 50 usd? 100 usd?

Ok now ask yourself, are you willing to go to a 3rd world prison for who knows how many years (lucky if you make it out alive), for something worth say 10 usd?

For something with the $ value of a fucking subway sandwich?

Some of them looked like they haven't even started puberty.

But they had mini shorts on and tons of makeup.

[Mr Enternational]

Mr. E, when you had the antigen test, was it painful?Exact same as the PCR that I had except I did the PCR myself at the drive thru of CVS. They put a cotton swab up your nose and twirl it around.

[Mike963]

Just curious to know, how much does a RT. PCR test cost in Colombia, it seems different website list different prices, unless I am looking at the wrong places.

Cheers.

Mike.

[LatinaLover#1]

Just curious to know, how much does a RT. PCR test cost in Colombia, it seems different website list different prices, unless I am looking at the wrong places.

Cheers.

Mike.Not sure why your asking about PCR in Colombia unless it's to get out of Quarantine, You need PCR to get into Colombia but if your going to the states you need antigen which is cheaper. I paid for PCR in Bogota about $70 and I paid about $40 for an Antigen.

[Silver Turtle]

Exact same as the PCR that I had except I did the PCR myself at the drive thru of CVS. They put a cotton swab up your nose and twirl it around.I take it as non-hurtful. I will go to your clinic next month. Thanks.

[KilledSoul]

Ok now ask yourself, are you willing to go to a 3rd world prison for who knows how many years (lucky if you make it out alive), for something worth say 10 usd?

For something with the $ value of a fucking subway sandwich?
I was a Santa Fe rat before Covid hit. If one is worried about validity of cedulas girls use, mongers can limit themselves to Clubs in Santa Fe. Lots of hot women there in all ages and because the deed is done within the club, you can be assured that everyone involved is of majority.

[Mr Enternational]

I take it as non-hurtful. I will go to your clinic next month. Thanks.It makes you tear up and want to sneeze as a reaction because it touches nerves or whatever, but it does not hurt.

[Onojdi]

I just booked an airbnb in La Candelaria area. I was thinking about Chapinero but then decide that I prefer the old town. I'm wondering if you take our hobby as a reference point, are my options in La Candelaria less attractive then Chapinero? And what are your recommendations in La Candelaria? Any advice will be much appreciated. And report will follow.

[Viagara58]

Hi guys,

I have been benefiting from the reports on ISG for some time and want to share my experience. I have just completed my nine day trip to Bogota Columbia. I got Covid PCR test at CVS which was free with my insurance and I got the lab results within 24 hours. I traveled on United and landed Bogota at 10:30 PM. No problem with immigration. I was offered 60 mill for White taxi which is actually a small van. I countered with 50 mill and they agreed which I think is a reasonable because when I came back from my hotel to the airport it was 38 mill on the meter. I stayed at Holiday Inn in Chapinero, Carrera 7 and, 67-39. I booked a room for two people but I never brought any girl to the room as the girls I wanted to bring to the hotel were not interested. I have checked with the hotel manager and the manager told that if I book the room for two people than there is no extra charge for the girl she need to be registered at the reception. Holiday Inn was very nice and clean hotel, provides free hot breakfast. I paid US $297 for nine nights which I think is pretty reasonable. The first night I went to pussy house in Chapinero area. I do not speak Spanish and I was Overcharged by that club. I made a mistake and I told them that I am from America and after that everybody was excited. They told me corona beer is 25 mil and final bill was 60 mil for two beers. When I complained about the price they started to explain in Spanish which I was not able to understand so I gave the waiter 50 and 20 mil and the waiter kept the 10 mill saying that it is his tip. Everyone in the club was pushing for the tip and they had people standing everywhere wanting tip without doing anything. Overall I did not like the club atmosphere. Most of the girls were five and there were couple of 6 but they were busy with the guys. I ended up going With a girl who was five in my rating. She asked hundred mil for 20 minutes but then later agreed for 30 minutes. After paying hundred mil she took me to adjacent building. There was a guy upstairs who asked me to pay 50 Mil. 30 mil for the room and 20 mil for the condom. He also wanted me to give 30 mil tip before entering the room. He also told me the time will be 20 minute and if I want to stay 30 minutes I have to pay another 30 mil. I was upset because the girl did not mention any of these extra expenses and she was also supporting him to pay tip and extra charge for 30 minutes. I decided to do 20 minutes and experience was below average. After that I decided to leave. While I was leaving the room guy was begging for tip and then there was another guy downstairs he wanted me to give tip and when I came out of that building the outside guy wanted me to tip him. I did not gave tip to all those guys as I was mad with the experience and I told them that I will never come back to this club.

Next day I went to mezzanine which was the best place during my whole trip. I went there every day and first two rooms had 3 to 4 girls and the other rooms were shut down probably because of Covid. The service was very good and they charged hundred mill for 30 minutes and 150 mill for one hour. I went there every day and had sex with one of the girls. I Had sex multiple times with four different girls there and Service was amazing. All those girls were eight in my ratings. I went to Abudubai But it was closed. I walked around and there were four different brothels nearby in that area and all of them are closed. I went to couple of other massage places in Chapinero but they were also closed. I mainly spent my morning at mezzanine and evening at Santa fe. I went to Troya club and couple of other clubs. I did not see any girl above five in Those clubs. Most of the girls were above age 30 and hard-core pros. I enjoyed the sweeties outside and paid 35 to 45 mil for 20 minutes. Some girls were good and some were not. I did checked girls IDs who looked too young. All of those girls were around age 19 and 20. One girl told me that she has ID at the hotel. When I went to the hotel and ask her to show me ID and she was not able to produce ID so I decided to leave. The hotel receptionist immediately came to me and told me that he will never let underage girl work there because he do not want to risk himself and the hotel. He told me that I should not worry that any of these hotels here will let underage girls to work. He he appreciated my concern and said that I'm doing the right thing he than told me that they also do not want to go to jail and risk there own business. I stayed at Santa fe up to 7 pm and went there every evening. Overall Bogota was a good experience and because of Covid most of the places were closed and I see best value at the massage places and Santa Fe Chicas. I went to Cendiatra lab paid 80 mil and it took about 1 1/2 hour to get the test results. Coming back to airport on yellow taxi the meter showed 38 mil and I paid 45 mil. This is my first report and I know that I am not able to describe everything in detail but I tried to provide you about my experience.

[LatinaLover#1]

Hi guys,

I have been benefiting from the reports on ISG for some time and want to share my experience. I have just completed my nine day trip to Bogota Columbia. I got Covid PCR test at CVS which was free with my insurance and I got the lab results within 24 hours. I traveled on United and landed Bogota at 10:30 PM. No problem with immigration. I was offered 60 mill for White taxi which is actually a small van. I countered with 50 mill and they agreed which I think is a reasonable because when I came back from my hotel to the airport it was 38 mill on the meter. I stayed at Holiday Inn in Chapinero, Carrera 7 and, 67-39. I booked a room for two people but I never brought any girl to the room as the girls I wanted to bring to the hotel were not interested. I have checked with the hotel manager and the manager told that if I book the room for two people than there is no extra charge for the girl she need to be registered at the reception. Holiday Inn was very nice and clean hotel, provides free hot breakfast. I paid US $297 for nine nights which I think is pretty reasonable. The first night I went to pussy house in Chapinero area. I do not speak Spanish and I was Overcharged by that club. I made a mistake and I told them that I am from America and after that everybody was excited. They told me corona beer is 25 mil and final bill was 60 mil for two beers. When I complained about the price they started to explain in Spanish which I was not able to understand so I gave the waiter 50 and 20 mil and the waiter kept the 10 mill saying that it is his tip. Everyone in the club was pushing for the tip and they had people standing everywhere wanting tip without doing anything. Overall I did not like the club atmosphere. Most of the girls were five and there were couple of 6 but they were busy with the guys. I ended up going With a girl who was five in my rating. She asked hundred mil for 20 minutes but then later agreed for 30 minutes. After paying hundred mil she took me to adjacent building. There was a guy upstairs who asked me to pay 50 Mil. 30 mil for the room and 20 mil for the condom. He also wanted me to give 30 mil tip before entering the room. He also told me the time will be 20 minute and if I want to stay 30 minutes I have to pay another 30 mil. I was upset because the girl did not mention any of these extra expenses and she was also supporting him to pay tip and extra charge for 30 minutes. I decided to do 20 minutes and experience was below average. After that I decided to leave. While I was leaving the room guy was begging for tip and then there was another guy downstairs he wanted me to give tip and when I came out of that building the outside guy wanted me to tip him. I did not gave tip to all those guys as I was mad with the experience and I told them that I will never come back to this club.

Next day I went to mezzanine which was the best place during my whole trip. I went there every day and first two rooms had 3 to 4 girls and the other rooms were shut down probably because of Covid. The service was very good and they charged hundred mill for 30 minutes and 150 mill for one hour. I went there every day and had sex with one of the girls. I Had sex multiple times with four different girls there and Service was amazing. All those girls were eight in my ratings. I went to Abudubai But it was closed. I walked around and there were four different brothels nearby in that area and all of them are closed. I went to couple of other massage places in Chapinero but they were also closed. I mainly spent my morning at mezzanine and evening at Santa fe. I went to Troya club and couple of other clubs. I did not see any girl above five in Those clubs. Most of the girls were above age 30 and hard-core pros. I enjoyed the sweeties outside and paid 35 to 45 mil for 20 minutes. Some girls were good and some were not. I did checked girls IDs who looked too young. All of those girls were around age 19 and 20. One girl told me that she has ID at the hotel. When I went to the hotel and ask her to show me ID and she was not able to produce ID so I decided to leave. The hotel receptionist immediately came to me and told me that he will never let underage girl work there because he do not want to risk himself and the hotel. He told me that I should not worry that any of these hotels here will let underage girls to work. He he appreciated my concern and said that I'm doing the right thing he than told me that they also do not want to go to jail and risk there own business. I stayed at Santa fe up to 7 pm and went there every evening. Overall Bogota was a good experience and because of Covid most of the places were closed and I see best value at the massage places and Santa Fe Chicas. I went to Cendiatra lab paid 80 mil and it took about 1 1/2 hour to get the test results. Coming back to airport on yellow taxi the meter showed 38 mil and I paid 45 mil. This is my first report and I know that I am not able to describe everything in detail but I tried to provide you about my experience.Welcome to Gringo price jaja, I went to Pussy House once and I knew in the first 2 seconds what the deal was and left. If it was your first time in Bogota and not speaking Spanish you made the right choice by going to Mezzanine. Except for the telephone booth size rooms I always had a good time and the girls are not as hard core as you will encounter in the PH or Santa Fe. What you need to do when you find a girl in Mezzanine that you like, get her WA and set something up for later at your place and you will enjoy yourself. Just don't trust ANYONE, keep your stuff locked up and don't let your guard down.

[Elvis 2008]

All of those girls were around age 19 and 20. One girl told me that she has ID at the hotel. When I went to the hotel and ask her to show me ID and she was not able to produce ID so I decided to leave. The hotel receptionist immediately came to me and told me that he will never let underage girl work there because he do not want to risk himself and the hotel. He told me that I should not worry that any of these hotels here will let underage girls to work. He he appreciated my concern and said that I'm doing the right thing he than told me that they also do not want to go to jail and risk there own business.Good report, Viagra. As for Santa Fe, I was told that the police check and make sure all the women are over 18. Maybe before Covid they were, but I have to say that I saw some girls who could not pass for 14 let alone 18. I would be careful trusting the hotel operators entirely too. I believe the hotels do check IDs, but I think putting faith in them could be the mistake of a lifetime.

It has not caught on in Colombia but in Mexico, it is common for younger looking girls to fuck guys and have their "friends" try to shake stupid Americans down and get them to pay them off. In Colombia, scopolamine is the scam of choice but if any Americans are dumb enough to pay a blackmailer off, then we could see the you-had-sex-with-a-minor shit take off there.

And going to Colombia on your own now without speaking Spanish? You have some serious balls dude, and you get mad respect from me.

[Mike963]

Thanks for the info, you are correct my query was more over to fly to Colombia.


Not sure why your asking about PCR in Colombia unless it's to get out of Quarantine, You need PCR to get into Colombia but if your going to the states you need antigen which is cheaper. I paid for PCR in Bogota about $70 and I paid about $40 for an Antigen.

[LatinaLover#1]

According to the IATA and updated today Colombia only requires a a Check Mig is the only thing needed to enter. This site is dedicated to the airline industry and well respected so I'm not surprised they have the latest info.

[LatinaLover#1]

This is the latest info on Delta's web site updated to day.

Bogota, Colombia.

Open with restrictions:

Says Covid 19 test NOT REQUIRED for Bogota, so looks like a go.

Quarantine.

May be required.

COVID-19 Test.

Not required.

Forms or Applications.

Required.

Health Insurance.

Recommended.

View More Requirement Details.

[Mr Enternational]

This is the latest info on Delta's web site updated to day.Yes sir! Good eye.

[Elvis 2008]

But Customs did not give a shit about that or about migracion app.

Flight from Dallas was probably 40% full, a 777 with outlets near every seat. I got to play a computer game the whole time, and it made the time fly by.

Bogota airport was deserted. El Dorado Avenue, road from airport to Downtown, was deserted. My taxi was flying down the road. I am at Bogota Marriott, usually a 12-15 minute drive, got here in like 7 minutes.

Novia is coming over. I have to make up for lost time.

[John Gault]

I will be in BOG from June 10 to June 15.

I'm staying in Santa Fe. Anyone interested in the hunt day or night let me know by PM.

[Georgest]

I am on Delta Web Site and it shows that USA Travels are exempted from showing negative covid test when returning to the USA. At least to Georgia. Could anyone confirm is this is true?

[Mr Enternational]

I am on Delta Web Site and it shows that USA Travels are exempted from showing negative covid test when returning to the USA. At least to Georgia. Could anyone confirm is this is true?Why didn't you take a screenshot? Everything I see says that a test is needed.

[Georgest]

Why didn't you take a screenshot? Everything I see says that a test is needed.Nevermind. I was mistaken. You are correct Test is still required for re-entry.

[Onojdi]

Can you help me with some info? Where are the usual SWs areas in La Candelaria? Or places in La Candelaria that may be interesting interest regarding our hobby.

[Woodman09]

Can you help me with some info? Where are the usual SWs areas in La Candelaria? Or places in La Candelaria that may be interesting interest regarding our hobby.I do not think there are any SGs in La Candelaria. I do not think there is any casa either.

There is a club Casa Show on CR 8 just north of Calle 19.

There is a casa in an office building on CR 10 East side of street just north of Av jiminez near San Victorino.

On CR 9 there is a daytime club called Roma between Calle 17 and Calle 18 on east side of street 2nd floor.

In San Victorino Plaza there are SGs in the middle of plaza.

North of San Victorino there is a low grade stroll on CR 13 and Calle 20.

And North of that is Santa Fe.

La Candeleria can be dangerous, be careful, because it is a tourist area there are more predators hunting.

[Cuba Tourist]

I am heading to Bogota with a friend this week. I have a few questions and I hope you don't mind me asking. I do contribute to this forum as you can see if you do a search. I do a lot of "dating" but also like a good massage. I speak Spanish and have several friends and acquaintances in the city.

Finding Massage Places.

Is there an up to date list of massage places and other useful lists and if so, where can I find it?

I read here about Mezzanine. Does anyone have an address for that?

Where to Stay.

I tried Airbnb and found it frustrating. There are lots of hotels and I guess you just have to ask each one in person. Are 4 star hotels much more likely to let a normal looking lady in as opposed to 5 star hotels? Hotwire seems to have some great deals -- 5 star hotels for $29 a night. Any women coming to my room will be relatively middle class types but you never know.

I was in Cartagena a few months ago and had a blast but do not like the beach so I am thinking Bogota might be a better match. Any advise would be great.

[LatinaLover#1]

I am heading to Bogota with a friend this week. I have a few questions and I hope you don't mind me asking. I do contribute to this forum as you can see if you do a search. I do a lot of "dating" but also like a good massage. I speak Spanish and have several friends and acquaintances in the city.

Finding Massage Places.

Is there an up to date list of massage places and other useful lists and if so, where can I find it?

I read here about Mezzanine. Does anyone have an address for that?

Where to Stay.

I tried Airbnb and found it frustrating. There are lots of hotels and I guess you just have to ask each one in person. Are 4 star hotels much more likely to let a normal looking lady in as opposed to 5 star hotels? Hotwire seems to have some great deals -- 5 star hotels for $29 a night. Any women coming to my room will be relatively middle class types but you never know.

I was in Cartagena a few months ago and had a blast but do not like the beach so I am thinking Bogota might be a better match. Any advise would be great.Ctg. Is not a great beach and the girls, etc. Are more expensive then the rest. They say theIsla de Barú is nice. I like to Scuba so I usually vacation in SAI or Providencia.

Girls in hotels has got a lot less strick with the hotels starving for clients. I'm not saying Hot pants and platforms from SF is ok but dressed normal should be no problem.

[Mr Enternational]

I'm not saying Hot pants and platforms from SF is ok but dressed normal should be no problem.When they leave Santa Fe they change out of their hooker clothes and put on regular clothes.

[Showdown]

I am heading to Bogota with a friend this week. I have a few questions and I hope you don't mind me asking. I do contribute to this forum as you can see if you do a search. I do a lot of "dating" but also like a good massage. I speak Spanish and have several friends and acquaintances in the city.

Finding Massage Places.

Is there an up to date list of massage places and other useful lists and if so, where can I find it?

I read here about Mezzanine. Does anyone have an address for that?

Where to Stay.

I tried Airbnb and found it frustrating. There are lots of hotels and I guess you just have to ask each one in person. Are 4 star hotels much more likely to let a normal looking lady in as opposed to 5 star hotels? Hotwire seems to have some great deals -- 5 star hotels for $29 a night. Any women coming to my room will be relatively middle class types but you never know.

I was in Cartagena a few months ago and had a blast but do not like the beach so I am thinking Bogota might be a better match. Any advise would be great.Check my review from last year. It should be comprehensive enough to get you started.

Showdown.

[MaddTraveler]

I will be in BOG from June 10 to June 15.

I'm staying in Santa Fe. Anyone interested in the hunt day or night let me know by PM.Oh man, I'm heading to Col on 6/26 and would like to make it first time in Bogota while contemplating on whether I should go to Cartagena or Mde as I normally do. I know there could be lots of valuable intel here, but what are the best suggestions for a noob in Bogota especially these crazy days? Airbnbs / Hotels? Area? Is Sante Fe the preferrd area since closed to the action / street walkers? Not going to sight seeing or anything touristic. Just to have a nightlife and dating / escorting. Any intel is appreciated.

[John Gault]

I am heading to Bogota with a friend this week. I have a few questions and I hope you don't mind me asking. I do contribute to this forum as you can see if you do a search. I do a lot of "dating" but also like a good massage. I speak Spanish and have several friends and acquaintances in the city.

Finding Massage Places.

Is there an up to date list of massage places and other useful lists and if so, where can I find it?

I read here about Mezzanine. Does anyone have an address for that?

Where to Stay.

I tried Airbnb and found it frustrating. There are lots of hotels and I guess you just have to ask each one in person. Are 4 star hotels much more likely to let a normal looking lady in as opposed to 5 star hotels? Hotwire seems to have some great deals -- 5 star hotels for $29 a night. Any women coming to my room will be relatively middle class types but you never know.

I was in Cartagena a few months ago and had a blast but do not like the beach so I am thinking Bogota might be a better match. Any advise would be great.You sent me a PM but your in box is full.

[MrButtLicker]

Hello guys,

I am planning to go to Bogota at the last week of August. Mongering in Chicago or US in general is getting expensive. This will be my first time going outside of the freedom land. I am booking an airbnb in the northern area; north of calle 100. I am planning on using SA and Bumble and agencies during my trip. And if I feel adventures I might visit few masajes.

My question is, is it better to bring $1,000 worth of COP with me or should I use ATM to get the cash daily?

[WerkTreue]

Hello, I'll be in Bogota in July. Really looking forward to it. I need all why'all's help. Has anyone dealt with Samii Villareal (twitter: at SamiVillareal). Here's the link to her profile: https://twitter.com/SamiVillareal.

I responded to one of your fleets on twitter, and we've been corresponding all day today. Is she legitimate or a 200 lbs gorilla? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[World Travel 69]

It is all right here.

Now it is up to you to let us know what has Changed? Open or Closed, prices etc.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists


I am heading to Bogota with a friend this week. I have a few questions and I hope you don't mind me asking. I do contribute to this forum as you can see if you do a search. I do a lot of "dating" but also like a good massage. I speak Spanish and have several friends and acquaintances in the city.

Finding Massage Places.

Is there an up to date list of massage places and other useful lists and if so, where can I find it?

I read here about Mezzanine. Does anyone have an address for that?

Where to Stay.

I tried Airbnb and found it frustrating. There are lots of hotels and I guess you just have to ask each one in person. Are 4 star hotels much more likely to let a normal looking lady in as opposed to 5 star hotels? Hotwire seems to have some great deals -- 5 star hotels for $29 a night. Any women coming to my room will be relatively middle class types but you never know.

I was in Cartagena a few months ago and had a blast but do not like the beach so I am thinking Bogota might be a better match. Any advise would be great.

[John Gault]

Hello guys,

I am planning to go to Bogota at the last week of August. Mongering in Chicago or US in general is getting expensive. This will be my first time going outside of the freedom land. I am booking an airbnb in the northern area; north of calle 100. I am planning on using SA and Bumble and agencies during my trip. And if I feel adventures I might visit few masajes.

My question is, is it better to bring $1,000 worth of COP with me or should I use ATM to get the cash daily?Where would you get the $1,000 worth of COP? If you get it from a bank in the USA they will rip you a new asshole.

[Zeos1]

Hello, I'll be in Bogota in July. Really looking forward to it. I need all why'all's help. Has anyone dealt with Samii Villareal (twitter: at SamiVillareal). Here's the link to her profile: https://twitter.com/SamiVillareal.

I responded to one of your fleets on twitter, and we've been corresponding all day today. Is she legitimate or a 200 lbs gorilla? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.Long shot request. Seems to me the population of the greater Bogota area is somewhere over 10 million. Just so you are not holding your breath for an answer.

[Routard]

My question is, is it better to bring $1,000 worth of COP with me or should I use ATM to get the cash daily?You will defintively have a better rate in ATM than with cash $ in casa de cambios.

[Routard]

It is all right here.

Now it is up to you to let us know what has Changed? Open or Closed, prices etc.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-ListsLots of places have disapeared due to lockdowns, Lalo, El Padrino, Olimpo, Lewinski, Juan pablo Zhivago, Lancaster to name a few of them. But as we are still not back to normal its too early to try to update everything.

[World Travel 69]

Even though I had my shots I am still home playing it safe.

At least I can mark them as closed. Maybe they will reopen at some time.

I have been putting dates on each one when someone posts about the places to make it easier to know that's what.


Lots of places have disappeared due to lockdowns, Lalo, El Padrino, Olimpo, Lewinski, Juan pablo Zhivago, Lancaster to name a few of them. But as we are still not back to normal its too early to try to update everything.

[GhostRecon]

But I am looking for a good value place with no issues with bringing girls near Santa Fe (walking distance) for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights.

I live in Medellin but know Bogota pretty well.

Just need a little advice here, thanks!

[World Travel 69]

Your mail box is Full.

[Woodman09]

But I am looking for a good value place with no issues with bringing girls near Santa Fe (walking distance) for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights.

I live in Medellin but know Bogota pretty well.

Just need a little advice here, thanks!Hotel San Francisco CR10 and Cll 24 or Ibis Hotel up the street.

[Woodman09]

But I am looking for a good value place with no issues with bringing girls near Santa Fe (walking distance) for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights.

I live in Medellin but know Bogota pretty well.

Just need a little advice here, thanks!5 min walk-- I Do Not know this owner-- I know a few people who have stayed in this building-- there are a few apts -- You Must inquire about stuff.

https://www.airbnb.com/s/Teusaquillo--Bogot%C3%A1--Colombia/homes?tab_id=home_tab&refinement_paths%5B%5D=%2Fhomes&flexible_trip_dates%5B%5D=july&flexible_trip_dates%5B%5D=june&flexible_trip_lengths%5B%5D=weekend_trip&date_picker_type=calendar&source=structured_search_input_header&search_type=user_map_move&ne_lat=4.614079281800463&ne_lng=-74.07093695391515&sw_lat=4.611721236460892&sw_lng=-74.0737089275469&zoom=18&search_by_map=true&place_id=ChIJN3NkpeqbP44RWZMQLjdYo28

[John Gault]

At the airport a few hours ago and I did not fell like waiting in line for the ATM so I thought it would not kill me to change a $ 10 bill for the taxi for pesos from those bandits. At the window there was a sign saying one dollar =3600 pesos. This was better than the rate I just got at the ATM a little while ago.

25 mil for the taxi to Santa Fe.

Go figure.

[LatinaLover#1]

At the airport a few hours ago and I did not fell like waiting in line for the ATM so I thought it would not kill me to change a $ 10 bill for the taxi for pesos from those bandits. At the window there was a sign saying one dollar =3600 pesos. This was better than the rate I just got at the ATM a little while ago.

25 mil for the taxi to Santa Fe.

Go figure.I just landed in Bogota on Delta coming from Atl. I tried 2 ATM's and for some reason they didn't have a signal and I couldn't even get taxi fare I've never seen anything even close to that in the airport, in fact it's been years that I even look at the money changers. XE has the official number at 3605 today.

[Traveling Dom]

I don't believe you Wood WA me HR number so I can see how sexy and submissive she truly is LOL.


So I just met this SuperCute redhead Venezolana white girl at one of the clubs-- she is maybe 5', 90 lbs, 22 yo.

HS dreamgirl She knows how to take care of me.

So compliant accept no BBBJ yet. What I like is she is a little sex-bomb. She likes me dominating her.

She is a petite girl and has trouble taking my big dick, LOL, She could not take doggie style but we figured out if I bang her from behind.

While she is flattened out she can handle it and seems to really enjoy. She was very enthusiastic in helping me figure out the best way to bang her.

[Stinky Squid]

But I am looking for a good value place with no issues with bringing girls near Santa Fe (walking distance) for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights.I wonder if the intent is for you to walk into Santa Fe to do at their (seedy) locations or for you to bring chicas to your place? You say "bringing" so let me ask, do you like walk around Santa Fe and chat up the chicas and invite them to come with you? Or do you do a short time at their place to test the waters get her number and then call her to come to you? Is that preferable to you over calling the various numbers published on things like photoprepagos? Would you feel safe with chicas coming to your place which is an AirBnB and not having a porter? Or do most of them have a porter with ID check? Even if ID check on the way in, what I felt most giving a piece of mind in motels, both Kong in MDE and pretty much all in Brazil is that you get a call to your room when the girl exits asking you if you liberate her. That's an excellent way to check that you are (a) alive and sane and (b) not missing any important stuff. I have not much experience with normal hotels, let alone with just private apartments. In Panama there was no check at all when I walked with the chicas into the hotel elevator. In Brazil many apartments have porteiros but many don't do ID check if you bring in guests.

[Mr Enternational]

I wonder if the intent is for you to walk into Santa Fe to do at their (seedy) locations or for you to bring chicas to your place?What is seedy about it? You guys make the simplest stuff out to be so complicated. They have simplied it for you, but that does not seem to be hard enough for some. Go, pay the money, stick your dick into a chick, leave or find another to do the same thing with. Why insist on doing calculus when elementary addition and subtraction is already sufficient?

[MarquisdeSade1]

Do her, awesome cono, but I will say she is a ***** LOL.

[Woodman09]

What is seedy about it? You guys make the simplest stuff out to be so complicated. They have simplied it for you, but that does not seem to be hard enough for some. Go, pay the money, stick your dick into a chick, leave or find another to do the same thing with. Why insist on doing calculus when elementary addition and subtraction is already sufficient?I live a short walk from SF-- It's Friggen awesome!

[UnknownGuy]

I like to Scuba so I usually vacation in SAI or Providencia.LatinaLover, where is SAI and Providencia? I'm trying to increase my scuba locations and mongering in the same location. Where else have you been?

I've only done Curaçao, Sosúa, and Cartagena.

[LatinaLover#1]

LatinaLover, where is SAI and Providencia? I'm trying to increase my scuba locations and mongering in the same location. Where else have you been?

I've only done Curaao, Sosa, and Cartagena.SAI is San Andres if your not failure it's an island of the coast of Nicaragua but through some kind of war years back it now belongs to Colombia. The sister island to SAI is Providencia. Both islands have perfect water. I hate wearing a wet suit, don't even like to wear a shortie. So I pretty much stick to warm waters. I have dived Isla Culebra, PR amazing, Mexico, Cancun area. Costa Rica, Bahamas, just google dive sites in any country you visit. SAI and to ssome degree providecia ot hit pretty bad by the huricane, not sure how things are now, research it.

[Blade2001]

Hi guys,

I went to Troya club and couple of other clubs. I did not see any girl above five in Those clubs.Great report Viagra. I've been to Bogota many times, but I'm surprised to hear that the highest rated girl at Troya (Santa Fe) was a 5. Troya and Fiebres were my go to spots prior to the pandemic. Did you go into Fiebres, Atones, Atunes, and any other clubs? Last time I was there these clubs were dominated by Venezuelans, many of who were pretty hot, some 8 at least.

Also, do you know the location of mezzanine? That's one place I've yet to try. Too bad to hear about pussy house, it's been hit and miss over the years, but it's sometimes has had good talent on the weekends.

I'm also curious if anyone has been to Lido's in the north recently. I've only pulled one girl from there since these girls are expensive and there's a 200 k COP "barfine". And the waiter was super shady adding his own tips to the drinks, not sure if he's still there. But if I go to Bogota and get trapped up north due to protests, I might have to give it a try again.

I realize this is the Bogota thread, but I'm also curious what Faces Dos is like in Medellin right now. I couldn't find any recent posts on it in the Medellin thread.

[Haokool]

Quick question to anyone who can spare the knowledge.

I read back down the forum, found out that San Andres is mostly black and the water isn't that warm. OK.

But no info on WG, SWG, houses, cabanas. Anyone?

Thanks!

[Showdown]

Great report Viagra. I've been to Bogota many times, but I'm surprised to hear that the highest rated girl at Troya (Santa Fe) was a 5. Troya and Fiebres were my go to spots prior to the pandemic. Did you go into Fiebres, Atones, Atunes, and any other clubs? Last time I was there these clubs were dominated by Venezuelans, many of who were pretty hot, some 8 at least.

Also, do you know the location of mezzanine? That's one place I've yet to try. Too bad to hear about pussy house, it's been hit and miss over the years, but it's sometimes has had good talent on the weekends.

I'm also curious if anyone has been to Lido's in the north recently. I've only pulled one girl from there since these girls are expensive and there's a 200 k COP "barfine". And the waiter was super shady adding his own tips to the drinks, not sure if he's still there. But if I go to Bogota and get trapped up north due to protests, I might have to give it a try again.

I realize this is the Bogota thread, but I'm also curious what Faces Dos is like in Medellin right now. I couldn't find any recent posts on it in the Medellin thread.Mezzanine https://goo.gl/maps/guSG4CpdPo8q8Ngq5.

SHowdown.

[Cbear13]

So one of my girls is coming in from Barranquilla on Wed. She wants us to have a couple of threesomes. Her friend was suppose to do it, but at last minute decided to back out.

So now we are thinking about swingers clubs. Does anybody have any advice? I don't have any bisexual girls here I can call to join us.

[Viajando Musico]

Great report Viagra. I've been to Bogota many times, but I'm surprised to hear that the highest rated girl at Troya (Santa Fe) was a 5. Troya and Fiebres were my go to spots prior to the pandemic. Did you go into Fiebres, Atones, Atunes, and any other clubs? Last time I was there these clubs were dominated by Venezuelans, many of who were pretty hot, some 8 at least.

Also, do you know the location of mezzanine? That's one place I've yet to try. Too bad to hear about pussy house, it's been hit and miss over the years, but it's sometimes has had good talent on the weekends.

I'm also curious if anyone has been to Lido's in the north recently. I've only pulled one girl from there since these girls are expensive and there's a 200 k COP "barfine". And the waiter was super shady adding his own tips to the drinks, not sure if he's still there. But if I go to Bogota and get trapped up north due to protests, I might have to give it a try again.

I realize this is the Bogota thread, but I'm also curious what Faces Dos is like in Medellin right now. I couldn't find any recent posts on it in the Medellin thread.Some of my best pre-pandemic experiences in Bogota were take-outs from Troya, Fiebres and clubs close by. I agreed there were some 8's in the mix. Sad to know only 5's are hanging around now. I did go to Mezzanine once and had a wonderful encounter as well, but the tight cubicle is a big drawback for me. So never went back. If you are looking for a safe environment with lot's of eye candies, Lido is the #1 place, but expect to pay top pesos for that. I enjoyed Lido before it turned into a shark tank. As discussed here a few times before, some Lido girls also worked in Santa Fe clubs. I personally knew and met a few in both places.

Santa Fe is really the best and most convenient place for our hobby in Bogota in terms of # and variety of chicas, prices and operating hours. But you have to constantly watch your back, and be alerted with your surroundings at all time. If you stand out, don't believe those who said it is just like any other big city elsewhere. Especially in this crisis, I believe there are even more desperate characters looking for easy targets in Santa Fe.

Pussy House and a couple smaller clubs right next to it was quite nice, but not anymore. I was very disappointed last time I went there before Pandemic. Things has gone down a lot there in the last few years. During the day, it will take a good amount of time in traffic if you plan to run between Santa Fe and the North.

Medellin is a different story from Bogota. It doesn't provide as many venues as in BOG, but at smaller size, it is also more manageable and easier to maneuver. The high end clubs in Med. , Face Dos, La Isla. Were never my favorite places. I'd stay in BOG for clubs. I have been to both cities numerous times, and I can only say the experiences are quite distinct, both pleasant and enjoyable.

[Blade2001]

Mezzanine https://goo.gl/maps/guSG4CpdPo8q8Ngq5.

SHowdown.Thanks, I wish I had known about this earlier. I often stay at Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa (amazing breakfast included) and it's close. There isn't much going on in the north rich part of town that isn't out of my budget. Plenty of inexpensive fun in the south though.

[Stinky Squid]

Garces Navas, Engativa, https://www.google.com.co/maps/place/4%C2%B042'47.7%22N+74%C2%B007'07.9%22W/@4.713257,-74.1276122,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d4.71325!4d-74.1188611 seems to be a special place where cute girls are being advertized, but I have 3 in the same place now, all different numbers but pointing to the same spot on the map. It might be that google just puts the sticker on there because it's he middle of the section of town. Not sure. But I am a bit suspicious, and it's far out, that I don't want to do all that hassle for it to end up being a scam of some kind.

[Woodman09]

Some of my best pre-pandemic experiences in Bogota were take-outs from Troya, Fiebres and clubs close by. I agreed there were some 8's in the mix. Sad to know only 5's are hanging around now. I did go to Mezzanine once and had a wonderful encounter as well, but the tight cubicle is a big drawback for me. So never went back. If you are looking for a safe environment with lot's of eye candies, Lido is the #1 place, but expect to pay top pesos for that. I enjoyed Lido before it turned into a shark tank. As discussed here a few times before, some Lido girls also worked in Santa Fe clubs. I personally knew and met a few in both places.

Santa Fe is really the best and most convenient place for our hobby in Bogota in terms of # and variety of chicas, prices and operating hours. But you have to constantly watch your back, and be alerted with your surroundings at all time. If you stand out, don't believe those who said it is just like any other big city elsewhere. Especially in this crisis, I believe there are even more desperate characters looking for easy targets in Santa Fe.

Pussy House and a couple smaller clubs right next to it was quite nice, but not anymore. I was very disappointed last time I went there before Pandemic. Things has gone down a lot there in the last few years. During the day, it will take a good amount of time in traffic if you plan to run between Santa Fe and the North..Sometimes the clubs have bad nights-- This is the problem with one hit wonders Know it alls who post here-- They generally post about their Bad experience which reflects their limited experience.

[World Travel 69]

Is this place Closed:

Las Divas Calle 61 # 13-65 (next door to 75). 15-20 Chicas. Prices: 50 k 20 min. , 60-80 k 30 min. , _k hour. Tel: _ Hours: 3 pm to 2-3 am. https://colombia.adultsearch.com/bogota/strip-club-brothel/las-divas/7058




Pussy House and a couple smaller clubs right next to it was quite nice, but not anymore. I was very disappointed last time I went there before Pandemic. Things has gone down a lot there in the last few years. During the day, it will take a good amount of time in traffic if you plan to run between Santa Fe and the North.

.

[Viajando Musico]

Is this place Closed:

Las Divas Calle 61 # 13-65 (next door to 75). 15-20 Chicas. Prices: 50 k 20 min. , 60-80 k 30 min. , _k hour. Tel: _ Hours: 3 pm to 2-3 am. https://colombia.adultsearch.com/bogota/strip-club-brothel/las-divas/7058

.Last time I went to Las Divas in November 2019 after stepping out of Pussy House disappointedly, it was still open, but the interior space was walled up on one side and reduced to half of what it was before. It was very small with only a few girls inside, and quality was not desirable. I left shortly. My experience before that visit at both places though not comparable to Santa Fe, were not bad at all. But unless I stay close by in Chapinero, these clubs will not be on my priority list.

[Woodman09]

Sometimes the clubs have bad nights-- This is the problem with one hit wonders Know it alls who post here-- They generally post about their Bad experience which reflects their limited experience.I just want to say that the Santa Fe experience is definitely not what it was, Seems like it is a bit depressed. Less traffic and less SGs. There are still hot girls but not as many as before.

I guess it is the economy, less locals coming out then before. I went out tonight and it was OK. It seems like last few times it has been ok but not great.

[Stinky Squid]

I prefer to take delivery to my room. It's just more my thing. And in Brazil I have done reasonably well with that.

So now planning my trip tomorrow I'll be off, it's all coming along beautifully.

I had some really nice chats with a few of them from PhotoPrepago, plus a whole line-up from SA. What I like with these chats is if they are warm. When they respond. When you're more than just a stack of cash. Like, when they come with this attitude "don't waste my time" I go, fuck you! Don't waste my time with bullshit not giving me some courtesy and a little flirt. So, I had two I was flirting with over the last few days.

But I am a bit concerned whether they are some scam hiding behind pictures. I definitely had two of those SA girls from Venezuela who were clearly scammers because they had pictures and then wouldn't want to show themselves live and were immediately begging for money.

Those two PhotoPrepago girls were different. One wanted me to engage on a video / virtual thing, wanted me to pay with some transfer. I didn't want to or have time, so we kept exchanging sweet flirts over the days. There was no pressure. I said I want to meet you when I'm in town. Fine. But then over the last 24 hours two two profiles disappeared from PhotoPrepago. And that makes me nervous, sad, that it might just be a scam. I am still in contact with both of them.

In fact, and that is another red flag, one of them who I did not have much conversation with, just messaged me out of the blue, sending a little flirt. I did a search for her photos to see if they are taken from somewhere, but could not find. But that isn't sure thing I could swear her anuncio said she had an apto somewhere, but I can't remember in what part of town. Now she's telling me she doesn't have an apto and we'd just meet in a hotel or motel or my place. I asked her for a quick video message, but I guess they never like doing that, I don't know why. I wonder if that will be a big waste of time when some old hag shows up rather than this girl I thought she was.

The other case is even stranger. We were flirting for days now, the one who offered virtual sessions, which I didn't take and she did not pressure me. Her PhotoPrepago profile also disappeared. But I searched for her photos and boy did I find. She is some onlyfans starlet. It still could be genuine. But I am preparing myself for the big letdown. I'm just wondering what your guys' experience was with these PhotoPrepago girls. I think it is known that there are scammers and too good to be true stuff. In Brazil too.

Well, I will soon see. Will try to meet them in a place where I can easily walk away from. If they do end up genuine, and we have as much chemistry than on whatsapp, then I'll be a very happy dude and I'll do some more with them. And I'll be really busy to also attend my lineup of SA girls. It's so funny. I have never been in a situation like that. Where will I take all that time from it takes to even speed-date these girls over coffee? I'll hang out in Bogota for several weeks, as long as it takes.

[Kib123]

At the airport a few hours ago and I did not fell like waiting in line for the ATM so I thought it would not kill me to change a $ 10 bill for the taxi for pesos from those bandits. At the window there was a sign saying one dollar =3600 pesos. This was better than the rate I just got at the ATM a little while ago.

25 mil for the taxi to Santa Fe.

Go figure.But how much did you actually get for your $10? The teaser rates posted are before commission and fees that reduce the 3,600 to 3,000 or very likely less.

Also not sure what ATM you used, because I got 3,629 (net) on same day at the red ATM (I think Scotiabank) by the luggage claim area, no fees.

[Mr Enternational]

Those two PhotoPrepago girls were different. One wanted me to engage on a video / virtual thing, wanted me to pay with some transfer. I didn't want to or have time, so we kept exchanging sweet flirts over the days. There was no pressure. I said I want to meet you when I'm in town. Fine. But then over the last 24 hours two two profiles disappeared from PhotoPrepago.What is with the getting wrapped up in hookers? They are there to be paid to be fucked. All the extra flirting and checking up on their profiles is a big waste of time. Seems you guys are missing normal women in your lives to have to go through all this shit with hookers.

The cashier at McDonald's doesn't care about your feelings. They are there to take in cash and give out burgers. With hookers you order pussy the same way that you order burgers. No need to call ahead and tell them how good the burgers look on the picture and ask them to let you hear the meat sizzling on the grill. These chicks are not sending you googly eyes and heart emojis because they are hoping that you are their true love. They are doing it so hopefully you will hurry up and come off some cash.

There is no need to wonder all this crap if you have boots on the ground and send the chick a message saying are you available to come fuck. If yes, then she comes. If no, then you move on to the next ad. Why build anxiety by complicating the process?

[Stinky Squid]

I will reply later to the philosophical issue that Mr. Enternation raised.

Right now, does anyone know the Engativa area Garces Navas around the Cali Vea (chicken joint?) near Calle 80?

I wonder if this is some kind of scammer establishment. Super cute girls but I suspect that it's a trap. If you know the place and have good experience, that'd be nice.

[Kib123]

I prefer to take delivery to my room. It's just more my thing. And in Brazil I have done reasonably well with that.

I had some really nice chats with a few of them from PhotoPrepago, plus a whole line-up from SA. What I like with these chats is if they are warm. When they respond. When you're more than just a stack of cash. Like, when they come with this attitude "don't waste my time" I go, fuck you! Don't waste my time with bullshit not giving me some courtesy and a little flirt. So, I had two I was flirting with over the last few days.

But I am a bit concerned whether they are some scam hiding behind pictures. I definitely had two of those SA girls from Venezuela who were clearly scammers because they had pictures and then wouldn't want to show themselves live and were immediately begging for money.

Those two PhotoPrepago girls were different. One wanted me to engage on a video / virtual thing, wanted me to pay with some transfer. Seems to be a lot of trouble to go through for paid pussy. And, no, you are never more than a stack of cash to a hooker.

[Blade2001]

I just want to say that the Santa Fe experience is definitely not what it was, Seems like it is a bit depressed. Less traffic and less SGs. There are still hot girls but not as many as before.

I guess it is the economy, less locals coming out then before. I went out tonight and it was OK. It seems like last few times it has been ok but not great.Thanks, this is the info I was looking for. Was curious if more girls would come out because they needed the money, or more girls would stay home since not enough customers due to the economy, and of course health concerns. Like anywhere else, weekends are when the hot girls show up.

[GhostRecon]

Hotel San Francisco CR10 and Cll 24 or Ibis Hotel up the street.I really appreciate it!

[Matthew44]

First time posting, although I have been lurking for the past year or so, as I have planned my trip to Bogota over the past few months. So appreciative to the wealth of information here, I never would have pulled the trigger on my trip without it. I went ahead and made plans to visit for July 7-15, and so I was pretty thrilled when I saw that almost all of the daily restrictions were lifted on June 8.

As far as I can tell, there are no restrictions on purchasing alcohol any longer, and restaurants and bars are business as usual, subject to a Maximum Capacity (restriction, which is to be posted at the entrance. In fact, the only places that I can see that are closed are discos (a win for me) and stadiums. Other than needing to wear a mask everywhere, I really can't see that there are any restrictions in Bogota.

Are they still doing cedula checks? Or can anyone pretty much travel anywhere, just as long as they are wearing a mask? (They don't mention anything about cedula checks, only that the curfew has been lifted.).

Also, any suggestions for a good place to take a date for dinner? My general plan was to meet with girls from Seeking (SA), and I was looking for places within walking distance from my rental. I am staying in an AirBnB right between Parque 93 and Zona T, so I am sure that there are a ton of great places. I found a listing for OSK Peru, which looks great, but struck out when trying to find a traditional steakhouse. Any suggestions?

Thanks for the help.

[GhostRecon]

I went to Pussy House for the second time in about 2 months tonight. It was pretty good a two years ago and went several times then but I had a bad experience about 2 months ago and didn't write a report thinking it was "just one of those off nights". I went again tonight and can confirm. Avoid this place.

First, the business model is not to sell chicks for sex, but to load the semi-hot girls into booths to ring up the drink prices for the locals.

The girls hanging around and not in booths were anywhere from 3-5's on my scale. The 5's who did happen to walk around were uninterested in having sex. I am a gringo but speak Spanish and just ordered the 10 mil Club Colombia but they tack on an extra 10 mil for food. I tried to argue but they insisted, not a gringo thing because all the tables had the same shitty bag of shit food on their tables.

I had taking a bunch of Viagra and just wanted to unload but was willing to just cut my losses and leave anyway. But on my way out this girl outside talked me into 140 sex. I was the only one in any of the rooms next store. The chick was about a 4 but had beautiful eyes so I was like "fuck it".

Again, this place is awful. Don't waste your time and they won't miss you either.

[Stinky Squid]

I prefer to take delivery to my room. It's just more my thing. And in Brazil I have done reasonably well with that.

I had some really nice chats with a few of them from PhotoPrepago, plus a whole line-up from SA. What I like with these chats is if they are warm. When they respond. When you're more than just a stack of cash. Like, when they come with this attitude "don't waste my time" I go, fuck you! Don't waste my time with bullshit not giving me some courtesy and a little flirt. So, I had two I was flirting with over the last few days.

But I am a bit concerned whether they are some scam hiding behind pictures. ...To which I got the following replies:


What is with the getting wrapped up in hookers? They are there to be paid to be fucked. All the extra flirting and checking up on their profiles is a big waste of time. Seems you guys are missing normal women in your lives to have to go through all this shit with hookers.I understand it may not be your thing, but it's mine. As long as I have (had) my GF why would I even want a hooker. And when I do a hooker, why would I not want to enjoy the encounter? I'm not quite sure if that's posturing on your part, but I'd say each his own. I like my sexual activity to be an overall good experience. Dead fish eyes closed do it quickly is not and probably never will be my thing.


The cashier at McDonald's doesn't care about your feelings. They are there to take in cash and give out burgers. With hookers you order pussy the same way that you order burgers. No need to call ahead and tell them how good the burgers look on the picture and ask them to let you hear the meat sizzling on the grill. These chicks are not sending you googly eyes and heart emojis because they are hoping that you are their true love. They are doing it so hopefully you will hurry up and come off some cash. I know they are not engaging like this because of "true love". But there is still a lot of fun in playing love, even if fake. It's just fun to play with emotions. And I think there is a provable correlation between girls who engage like this to tend to give you a better experience from those who are just professional fast-sex cashiers.

After all that flirting, that one girl had made me an offer for 400 (kCOP) for the entire night. She just left and it's 1 pm now. She was here from 10 pm to 1 pm. There was zero time pressure, and there was zero money pressure either. She didn't ask for any up front. We met like lovers, I had some delicacies in my room to enjoy. I found the entire time enjoyable and I had picked that one because she was cute in the pictures. Advertised as 19 yo, which of course we know is always "some time ago". I was worried how old the pictures would be, and to my great relief what I had seen and liked was pretty much up to date. So, I was a happy camper. In my book I scored and this has directly to do with the attitude which you get a feel for that attitude when you chat ahead of time.


Seems to be a lot of trouble to go through for paid pussy. And, no, you are never more than a stack of cash to a hooker.Yes of course it is service for money. But everyone has their story and is human. I am after the ones who are not yet battle hardened. Who have spirit and a glow. I have been consistently happy with those who did have that. And I have been consistently unhappy with those who didn't.

Just before I had given her the money as she called her taxi, I was anxious that she would have said "400" leaving a final argument of "oh but I meant USD 400", but that worry was unnecessary as it turns out. This chica was simply doing her thing with respect.

I have to learn better Spanish though, this translating in my head to and from Portuguese doesn't work too well.

And as for unnecessary worries, this here I do not understand:


But how much did you actually get for your $10? The teaser rates posted are before commission and fees that reduce the 3,600 to 3,000 or very likely less.

Also not sure what ATM you used, because I got 3,629 (net) on same day at the red ATM (I think Scotiabank) by the luggage claim area, no fees.What is the problem of using an ATM machine at the airport before you exit? Why is this even an argument? Why would anyone even consider these money changers? Why are they even still there? I'd rather flirt with a hooker over WhatsApp and give her a tip after doing well than to change cash at a booth in an airport. ;)

GENERAL INFO:

As I arrived in BOG airport, not requiring the CoViD tests was such a treat.

I used the 1 hour free WiFi to get everything else figured out.

Cell phone roaming: I found that my Simple Mobile (ex Trac Phone) that uses the T-mobile network is doing south America roaming without problem. I love the Simple Mobile, it's awesome, you could have an America Roaming SIM without ever presenting your ID and pay everything in cash. This is quite a nice touch. Anyway, only problem is that the T-Mobile network is always flaky everywhere. Even in the USA I have white holes and here in BOG I see the bars frequently disappear while my PY sim card that logs onto the ATT network in the USA has way more stable bars.

Uber works in strange ways in Colombia, they didn't even show me a price. But I jumped and it worked 25 mil COP to Chapinero.

The driver said everything is open again. Saw people in restaurants. Seems like mask wearing on the street may be required. I usually hate that but I ended up doing it just to avoid testing the waters. But even in shops I see people without masks, they just put them on if someone else comes inside.

[GreenBud]

I was looking for places within walking distance from my rental. I am staying in an AirBnB right between Parque 93 and Zona T, so I am sure that there are a ton of great places. I found a listing for OSK Peru, which looks great, but struck out when trying to find a traditional steakhouse. Any suggestions?La Brasserie on Carrera 13 between Calle 85 & 86a. There are also a few other upscale restaurants on that street. OSK Peru is on that street.

[John Gault]

But how much did you actually get for your $10? The teaser rates posted are before commission and fees that reduce the 3,600 to 3,000 or very likely less.

Also not sure what ATM you used, because I got 3,629 (net) on same day at the red ATM (I think Scotiabank) by the luggage claim area, no fees.If you read my post a little closer you would see that I said I got 3600 pesos for one dollar. That means I got 36000 pesos for the ten dollar bill.

To answer another guy who said it is crazy to use the money changers at the airport well I agree. In my case the line for the ATM at the airport was long. So I knew the taxi would cost me 25 K. To me my time is important.

[JjBee62]

If you read my post a little closer you would see that I said I got 3600 pesos for one dollar. That means I got 36000 pesos for the ten dollar bill.

To answer another guy who said it is crazy to use the money changers at the airport well I agree. In my case the line for the ATM at the airport was long. So I knew the taxi would cost me 25 K. To me my time is important.Well this is timely. Just flew into BOG Wednesday night. Happened to glance at the currency exchange rates. One place was giving 3620 and the other had 3630 per dollar. I believe the actual rate at the time was 3670. Usually the airport exchange rates suck, but that's not bad at all, especially if you're already at the airport and don't want to wait for the ATM.

[Matthew44]

La Brasserie on Carrera 13 between Calle 85 & 86a. There are also a few other upscale restaurants on that street. OSK Peru is on that street.At GreenBud, thanks for the suggestion. That place looks perfect!

I also appreciate the tip about checking other restaurants on that street. Primi looks to be an excellent Italian restaurant, right down the street. There's a Four Seasons and a Sofitel on the other side of the street, but their restaurants look overpriced for the quality. I'll do some more hunting, but now I've got three very decent restaurants that I can visit within walking distance. Much appreciated!

[LatinaLover#1]

At GreenBud, thanks for the suggestion. That place looks perfect!

I also appreciate the tip about checking other restaurants on that street. Primi looks to be an excellent Italian restaurant, right down the street. There's a Four Seasons and a Sofitel on the other side of the street, but their restaurants look overpriced for the quality. I'll do some more hunting, but now I've got three very decent restaurants that I can visit within walking distance. Much appreciated!On the same street, right across from Osaka is De luca's trendy, decent Italian restaurant.

[Matthew44]

On the same street, right across from Osaka is De luca's trendy, decent Italian restaurant.I've added that one to my list as well. Thanks!

[Elvis 2008]

I understand it may not be your thing, but it's mine. As long as I have (had) my GF why would I even want a hooker. And when I do a hooker, why would I not want to enjoy the encounter? I'm not quite sure if that's posturing on your part, but I'd say each his own. I like my sexual activity to be an overall good experience. Dead fish eyes closed do it quickly is not and probably never will be my thing.

I know they are not engaging like this because of "true love". But there is still a lot of fun in playing love, even if fake. It's just fun to play with emotions. And I think there is a provable correlation between girls who engage like this to tend to give you a better experience from those who are just professional fast-sex cashiers.SS,

I would have posted the same thing as you did a year ago. To recap, you are into the three phases of relationships: working girls, working girls where there is affection (sugar baby like), and civilians.

I had it out with Mr. E thinking he did not get it. I met a woman off seeking, and she was a 10 and a 10 in bed to boot. We did not talk all that much but when we were done, I slipped 300 k in her purse. Mr. E called me out on that, pretty much said I was a dumb ass for doing so. I thought about it and asked myself why, and I really did not like the answer. At first, it was habit, second it was to be polite, and the third, and the one I really hated, was that I felt I was not worthy of this woman. That is how badly my ego had bruised by women in the American sex prison.

It took me 4 weeks to see this woman again. In fact, I kind of went to Colombia to see her again. I fucked the shit out of her again and this time paid her nothing. I planned a trip with her and went to Mexico with her. On our last day in Mexico, she was in tears thinking she would not see me again, and we did see each other again in fact have several times.

I told my friends about her and they all could not believe what I was telling them. They all were saying you have to keep this woman.

I thought being loyal to one woman was a condition that I could never meet again. I liked sex too much, but it really was not that. I wanted to be satisfied, and I thought the only way I would be was with multiple women. But now every woman after the one I am with now would be a disappointment. I am not just satisfied after being with this woman. I am depleted. Usually when there is one of you and many of another group you are in the wrong, but I was not polyamorous because of me but because of these other women. With a few exceptions, I was always left wanting more or different.

Look, there are all kinds of definitions for what a 10 is. I get that. With this one, men honk their horns, turn around and stare at her ass when she is with me. When I went to a disco and they do filming of the hottest women there on screen, I thought she would be the first one they put on a screen; she was second. Think about that for a minute. I am at a disco in Cancun at Spring Break, and she is the hottest one there. There was no one there that was a trade up. We went to a busy park with thousands of people in Bogota, and I look around and again, there were none better.

Thing is she is with me for money right? The long game? If you saw us together, it would take you a second to see that is not the case. Every second she can, she is hanging on me, kissing me, stroking me. It is the easiest thing in the world to see if a woman is interested in a guy or his money in real life.

Mr. E has said there are two kinds of women, working girls you pay for sex and women you do not. That third category, the one you are enjoying where you imagine the woman likes you, is not real. Dude, if the woman really likes you, why is she taking money from you? She is insulting you. She is saying the only way you are worthy of her pussy is with money.

It is not like I have not spent money to be with my gal. I have with regards to travel, time, hotels, ETC, but here is the thing. She has spent her time to be with me too and at this point, I do not care how much it costs I am going to be with her, but both of would be aghast right now at the notion I am paying for sex.

So once you get that a woman setting a price for pussy is insulting you, then you negotiate down as harshly as you possible can and if you do not like the price, you walk like anything else. I have told guys time and again to not set prices with seeking. Yes, I know you get more responses, but you also get a ton more working girls.

There have been several times in Colombia and a few in Mexico that women wanted to see me and not need to be paid. Funny thing is those women were much, much better lovers than the ones who did get expect to get paid.

The whole notion that you do not want to insult the woman you are with over 400,000 COP or $400 US I get. You do not want to insult her, but she is insulting you by giving you a price. I know you would argue with the notion that you are paying her to like you, but that is what we have been accustomed to in the USA sex prison, and that is what you are doing. You would even say the sex is better in a sugar baby relationship than a pure hooker one, and it is, but why not go for even better sex without being insulted?

There are amazing women in Colombia who want to date you for you and fuck you for you. So why waste your time with these fake relationships?

[Kib123]

I understand it may not be your thing, but it's mine. As long as I have (had) my GF why would I even want a hooker. And when I do a hooker, why would I not want to enjoy the encounter? I'm not quite sure if that's posturing on your part, but I'd say each his own. I like my sexual activity to be an overall good experience. Dead fish eyes closed do it quickly is not and probably never will be my thing.

You have earned my full respect sir, very eloquent rebuttal to all our friendly 'attacks'. Happy mongering!

[Kib123]

If you read my post a little closer you would see that I said I got 3600 pesos for one dollar. That means I got 36000 pesos for the ten dollar bill.

To answer another guy who said it is crazy to use the money changers at the airport well I agree. In my case the line for the ATM at the airport was long. So I knew the taxi would cost me 25 K. To me my time is important.They must have put their house in order maybe due to competition, because the last time I changed money at the airport about 3 years ago I literally got screwed. A good 20% below market.

[LatinaLover#1]

First time posting, although I have been lurking for the past year or so, as I have planned my trip to Bogota over the past few months. So appreciative to the wealth of information here, I never would have pulled the trigger on my trip without it. I went ahead and made plans to visit for July 7-15, and so I was pretty thrilled when I saw that almost all of the daily restrictions were lifted on June 8.

As far as I can tell, there are no restrictions on purchasing alcohol any longer, and restaurants and bars are business as usual, subject to a Maximum Capacity (restriction, which is to be posted at the entrance. In fact, the only places that I can see that are closed are discos (a win for me) and stadiums. Other than needing to wear a mask everywhere, I really can't see that there are any restrictions in Bogota.

Are they still doing cedula checks? Or can anyone pretty much travel anywhere, just as long as they are wearing a mask? (They don't mention anything about cedula checks, only that the curfew has been lifted.).

Also, any suggestions for a good place to take a date for dinner? My general plan was to meet with girls from Seeking (SA), and I was looking for places within walking distance from my rental. I am staying in an AirBnB right between Parque 93 and Zona T, so I am sure that there are a ton of great places. I found a listing for OSK Peru, which looks great, but struck out when trying to find a traditional steakhouse. Any suggestions?

Thanks for the help.If your in Zona T try Andres Carne in DC, It's not as much fun as the original in Chia because of the multi level set up but the steak is good served on a sizzling metal platter and after dinner you can dance to some good music.

https://www.andrescarnederes.com/andres-dc

[Jandara 69]

First time posting, although I have been lurking for the past year or so, as I have planned my trip to Bogota over the past few months. So appreciative to the wealth of information here, I never would have pulled the trigger on my trip without it. I went ahead and made plans to visit for July 7-15, and so I was pretty thrilled when I saw that almost all of the daily restrictions were lifted on June 8.

As far as I can tell, there are no restrictions on purchasing alcohol any longer, and restaurants and bars are business as usual, subject to a Maximum Capacity (restriction, which is to be posted at the entrance. In fact, the only places that I can see that are closed are discos (a win for me) and stadiums. Other than needing to wear a mask everywhere, I really can't see that there are any restrictions in Bogota.

Are they still doing cedula checks? Or can anyone pretty much travel anywhere, just as long as they are wearing a mask? (They don't mention anything about cedula checks, only that the curfew has been lifted.).

Also, any suggestions for a good place to take a date for dinner? My general plan was to meet with girls from Seeking (SA), and I was looking for places within walking distance from my rental. I am staying in an AirBnB right between Parque 93 and Zona T, so I am sure that there are a ton of great places. I found a listing for OSK Peru, which looks great, but struck out when trying to find a traditional steakhouse. Any suggestions?

Thanks for the help.If price is not an issue I would recommend la Estancia Chica, a 5 min walk from Parque 93. My favorite steakhouse in Bogota by far, it's a traditional Argentinian steakhouse that serves imported US and Argentinian beef. The churrasco, mollejas and ojo de bife are a clear step above the regular Colombian beef served at, Andres Carne de Res, Carne e Vino, Hermes Carne de Res etc.

[Gimmedub]

Second the estancia chica recommendation. My go to before I went vegan.


If price is not an issue I would recommend la Estancia Chica, a 5 min walk from Parque 93. My favorite steakhouse in Bogota by far, it's a traditional Argentinian steakhouse that serves imported US and Argentinian beef. The churrasco, mollejas and ojo de bife are a clear step above the regular Colombian beef served at, Andres Carne de Res, Carne e Vino, Hermes Carne de Res etc.

[Matthew44]

If your in Zona T try Andres Carne in DC, It's not as much fun as the original in Chia because of the multi level set up but the steak is good served on a sizzling metal platter and after dinner you can dance to some good music.
If price is not an issue I would recommend la Estancia Chica, a 5 min walk from Parque 93. My favorite steakhouse in Bogota by far, it's a traditional Argentinian steakhouse that serves imported US and Argentinian beef. The churrasco, mollejas and ojo de bife are a clear step above the regular Colombian beef served at, Andres Carne de Res, Carne e Vino, Hermes Carne de Res etc.
Second the estancia chica recommendation. My go to before I went vegan.Thanks all for the suggestions. Andres Carne seems well suited for a casual lunch date, whereas La Estancia Chica for a fancier evening. I will make sure to hit them both.

But I would more likely give up women before I gave up meat. (I mean not really, but that was my initial reaction. LOL.)

[Gringo Trooper]

I met a woman off seeking, and she was a 10 and a 10 in bed to boot.I'm happy to hear you found someone special. What does a 10 look like to you (feel free to post a picture with her face blurred out or a celebrity that she resembles)?

As this is subjective, I consider Penelope Cruz, Salma Hayek, Jessica Alba (in their primes) to be 9's.

I'd say maybe Adrianna Lima, and a couple other Brazilian Victoria's Secret models (in their primes) to be 10's.

If she is a 10 in your eyes, at the end of the day, that's all that matters.

I'm just curious to know what kind of score she is.

[Stinky Squid]

S
I would have posted the same thing as you did a year ago. To recap, you are into the three phases of relationships: working girls, working girls where there is affection (sugar baby like), and civilians.

I had it out with Mr. E thinking he did not get it. I met a woman off seeking, and she was a 10 and a 10 in bed to boot. We did not talk all that much but when we were done, I slipped 300 k in her purse. Mr. E called me out on that, pretty much said I was a dumb ass for doing so. I thought about it and asked myself why, and I really did not like the answer. At first, it was habit, second it was to be polite, and the third, and the one I really hated, was that I felt I was not worthy of this woman. That is how badly my ego had bruised by women in the American sex prison.

It took me 4 weeks to see this woman again. In fact, I kind of went to Colombia to see her again. I fucked the shit out of her again and this time paid her nothing. I planned a trip with her and went to Mexico with her. On our last day in Mexico, she was in tears thinking she would not see me again, and we did see each other again in fact have several times.I think I might already have congratulated you, or I do it now. You go be with her. I think I have already said that this might last 2, 4, 7 years but it's worth it. I think also, that now you are out of scope for this site, at least for the time being.

I have been absent from here too for the duration of relationships. And then came back when it got bad. I had 7 years of a 10, and now she annoys me to no end, because she is just so unable to understand me and constantly offended by me, makes shit up, and I am done being her bad guy. Fuck it. No 10 is worth that. It's an experience. So now I am back, but I never was a good monger. I have, in fact, described myself as an "LTR addict" and I'm going to work on that this year.

You say a girl asking money to be with us is insulting. I was going to say good for you that your #10 didn't find it insulting that you slipped the 300 kCOP into her purse. But you are certainly right that mongering P4P has something insulting and demeaning for us men. Almost always. Especially these starfish experiences are horrible in my book. Now, there is where the difference comes in. A girl is in the business, and it is clear she is, and the 400 kCOP per night is actually the semi-pro rate as I have now found out. The full pros sometimes ask for a lot more 800 kCOP or so. Although the full pros do not provide better service, or so I doubt. The semis are like open to get emotional by themselves, if they like you somewhat they become sweet. And that's what I like. I once had one of those from the agency in Rio. It was nice, she looked at me right off the bat and decided she liked me. I also had one who started right out when first sitting on my lap saying she didn't like me. That was of course shit going forward.

I am trying to train myself to depend less on that. To totally do a different attitude when they don't like me and don't get sweet. To just give a fuck in that case and pull through anyway and enjoy that aspect of it.

Anyway, enjoy your girlfriend and consider keeping her and don't fuck around unnecessarily. Just keep an eye on whether she actually sees you as you. Good luck.

[Mr Enternational]

I also had one who started right out when first sitting on my lap saying she didn't like me. That was of course shit going forward.I was not there. But she was sitting on your lap. So I don't think a hooker would sit on a customer's lap and be serious telling them that they did not like them.

You know how many non-pro chicks have said they did not like me? My answer is you are not supposed to like me. But then they can't get enough of me. Chicks say that I am arrogant or act arrogant and for some reason that attracts them. I am not, but I just talk big shit to them when every other guy they know is busy kissing their ass, buying candy while I am buying condoms.

Chick in Bogota keeps telling me every day that she does not want to see or talk to me ever again. I say okay. The next day she is hitting me up asking how my day was. I already told the broad she was a nutcase, but she can't help herself. So next week I will be right back in her mouth and pussy.

[Elvis 2008]

Also, any suggestions for a good place to take a date for dinner? My general plan was to meet with girls from Seeking (SA), and I was looking for places within walking distance from my rental. I am staying in an AirBnB right between Parque 93 and Zona T, so I am sure that there are a ton of great places. I found a listing for OSK Peru, which looks great, but struck out when trying to find a traditional steakhouse. Any suggestions?First off, read Routard's guide if you have not already: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=2241562#post2241562.

It is ironic Matthew that Latinlover mentioned Andres. I was thinking that literally was the only above average meal I had in Bogota. It is really funny because Bogota has so many more better looking women than Mexico City or Lima, and those two cities blow Bogota out of the water food wise. I am like kind of laughing that maybe Bogota not being a culinary mecca is a good thing because it keeps the women from being fat which is much more of a problem in those other two cities. LOL.

One of the reasons maybe I feel that way about the food though is because I usually stay at the Bogota Marriott near the airport and the food is so fucking good there other restaurants are a disappointment. The breakfast is to die for, and the steak restaurant there is great: https://www.theplacetobecolombia.com/bogota-gastronomia/factory-steak-lobster-bogota/.

I get why you are staying in the Parque 93 area. I stayed at Parque 97 suites the second time I was in Bogota, but I should probably do a seeking.com guide for you.

First off, Matthew, you do not have to wine and dine the women in Colombia. There is no one date rule like in the USA where you do meet and greet and then the second date you have sex. You meet the women and fuck them that day. They will be DTF or not.

Do not even do dinner. Maybe for a second date, it is okay. Coffee is fine or I would just meet the women at the hotel diner. Parque 97 was a fine place to meet women, dine and fuck, but the room itself got cold at night. I do not think they even had heat.

Thing about where you staying is that it has the reputation of being the nicer area, but the traffic is kind of a pain and you are far from the airport.

I have done most if not all the tourist stuff in Bogota, and you can probably do it in a day or two days max. There really is not a can't miss thing in Bogota outside of the women so you can just travel to the touristy stuff if you want.

If you want to do the high end clubs and marriage parlors, you are in the right place. For seeking chicks, I am not so sure. Thing is that you are kind of far from Santa Fe and honestly you can fuck just as hot and as good in the seedy joints there as you can anywhere else, and Santa Fe is active even in the afternoon. My favorite gal there works 12 to 5 PM. Unlike the Zona T region, Santa Fe is a dump but the women look as good and perform just as well as the higher end places. I would use SF as a backup if a seeking date does not pan out.

First time I went to Bogota I was at Hotel Ibis, and the rooms are Motel 6 like which is fine for bringing back the SF working girls, but the women I met from seeking were not all down to fuck when I was there. The women have their doubts about you then.

My favorite hotel in Bogota is the Bogota Marriott near the airport. Thing is you look up the price and it is $162 a night, and you are probably at $50 or so a night at your airbnb. That is $100 a day you could spend on women.

But if you go to Marriott.com and you click on the deals and packages portion and pay in advance, the rate goes to around $100. But what you have is a fantastic breakfast, no steep transportation costs to the airport, a great gym, and a fabulous indoor pool with a hot tub. The TV allows you to hook to a Netflix account where you can use Spanish subtitles and watch TV together and the climate control is great. Also you are 15,20 minutes from Santa Fe, and there is a Juan Valdez within walking distance if you want to meet your prospect there. I would typically meet women at the hotel and walk to JV.

Thing is no one mentioned price when I was at the Marriott. They knew because I stayed there money was not going to be an issue for me, and it is kind of intimidating for Colombian women, a lot of whom live in unflattering quarters. So unlike the Ibis where the women's message was like "I need to get paid in advance if you are staying at a hotel like this" or even Parque 97 where the women were more like "I guess if you can afford to stay here, you are okay", the message at Bogota Marriott was, "Okay, I am going to be really lucky to fuck this guy. ".

I am sure there are other hotels that can make that statement too, but I do not know any there that are $100 a night. I registered for 2 people and had no problem brining in women. The hotels would check ID but that was it. The Marriott is not a place to bring back a Santa Fe working girl, but it is great for a seeking girl, and I really recommend you stay there for your first trip. The added expense is well worth it.

With the breakfast, gym, pool, hot tub, and Netflix on the TV, I had no problem having a great time with my women all while keeping them well fed and entertained, and I really recommend there if you are hunting women from seeking.

[Showdown]

I've got a weeks vacation coming up and decided to go back to Bogota. I was considering Cartegena but between the girls being fewer, more expensive and the relentless touts bothering you I decided against it. It was a tough decision because I would have liked to have been near an ocean this time.

I'd like the boards thoughts on a few things.

1. I really enjoyed Mezzanine and will go again. What other similiar places are nearby that are open? I prefer to stay in Chapinero area as I liked it. Anyone recommend a hotel in this area?

2. Santa Fe just doesn't do it for me. The knocks after five minutes are just too annoying. However I love the seediness of it. Any alternatives to Santa Fe?

3. Colombian Cupid and Seeking. Is it worth it if I want to meet non pros? I've been very interested in a Black Colombia girl to sample.

4. What else is their to do? Last time I was there I went to Mezzanine three times in a day. But there appears nothing else to do in Bogota. I did the tourist sites the first time but there is no ocean or cool mountains or anything. Would you suggest flying to Cartegena for a day or two?

Bottom line is I am looking to have an even better experience this time. And I will not be using my credit card. I'm not having my info stolen again.

Showdown.

[LatinaLover#1]

If price is not an issue I would recommend la Estancia Chica, a 5 min walk from Parque 93. My favorite steakhouse in Bogota by far, it's a traditional Argentinian steakhouse that serves imported US and Argentinian beef. The churrasco, mollejas and ojo de bife are a clear step above the regular Colombian beef served at, Andres Carne de Res, Carne e Vino, Hermes Carne de Res etc.I've been there a half dozen times or so, never realized that was the name. It's right around the corner from the hotel I've been staying in for 10 years. The steak is good and I would go there again just for the steak. A great place for me and my buddy to go for a great steak and a scotch mist, jaja However, it's like old school. Stuff shirt executive kinda steak house, The girls would prefer the vibe in Andres. The Lomo is good but the party scene and the dancing and the eclectic style is a night out to take a chick in Bogota, Again Chia is the place to be but DC is close and a lot of fun.

[Mr Enternational]

Well this is timely. Just flew into BOG Wednesday night. Happened to glance at the currency exchange rates. One place was giving 3620 and the other had 3630 per dollar. I believe the actual rate at the time was 3670. Usually the airport exchange rates suck, but that's not bad at all, especially if you're already at the airport and don't want to wait for the ATM.Tonight's rate at that currency exchange was 3620. I used my Schwab card in the Colpatria machine to get 900,000 4 times. Each time it took $239.76 from my account for a rate of 3753.75. There was not a wait at the ATM. I was the only one using it, while there were lines at the currency exchanges.

[The Tall Man]

Just read that Colombia has just had the 100,000 deaths from covid and worse yet that each day about 11,000 new cases, not good and Bogota is the epicenter.

Please get vac before you come to Colombia, please.

The high rate of new cases and massive daily deaths are the result of the protests in the past 8 weeks, you don't need to be Sherlock Homes to understand that this was going to happen.

Stay safe.

The Tall Man.

[Blade2001]

I've got a weeks vacation coming up and decided to go back to Bogota. I was considering Cartegena but between the girls being fewer, more expensive and the relentless touts bothering you I decided against it. It was a tough decision because I would have liked to have been near an ocean this time.

I'd like the boards thoughts on a few things.

1. I really enjoyed Mezzanine and will go again. What other similiar places are nearby that are open? I prefer to stay in Chapinero area as I liked it. Anyone recommend a hotel in this area?

2. Santa Fe just doesn't do it for me. The knocks after five minutes are just too annoying. However I love the seediness of it. Any alternatives to Santa Fe?

3. Colombian Cupid and Seeking. Is it worth it if I want to meet non pros? I've been very interested in a Black Colombia girl to sample.

4. What else is their to do? Last time I was there I went to Mezzanine three times in a day. But there appears nothing else to do in Bogota. I did the tourist sites the first time but there is no ocean or cool mountains or anything. Would you suggest flying to Cartegena for a day or two?Not sure if they still have it, but there used to be Gringo night Tuesday nights in Bogota. I think the actual club location where it's held changes so you'll have to look it up. It's basically just a normal dance club but had some of the hottest women I've ever seen. The girls that show up are not working girls, but it's still a fun time.

There are no alternatives to Santa Fe area. There is a red light district called Primera de Mayo or something like that Southwest of Santa Fe area, but mostly ugly girls there. And if they realize your a foreigner, the touts will swarm you. There really aren't any middle priced clubs in Bogota like Face Dos in Medellin. Only the cheap Santa Fe girls and the expensive clubs in the North. Pussy House in Chapinero used to be pretty good, but sounds like it's been turned into a clip joint and not worth visiting.

If you haven't checked out Lidos in the North, I would check it out just for fun. The girls there are stunning but expensive. There is a 200 K COP "bar fine" to take them out and they'll probably charge 500 K or more per night, varies based on the girl. I've only pulled one girl there and she charged 400 K COP for 2 hours. There is also Flirt Hotel. You don't actually have to stay there to session with the girls, but you do need to call them ahead of time and make an appointment to visit. It is run like a super high end casa, where the girls line up and you choose one. Girls varied from 8 to 9.5 on hotness scale. 600 K for 30 min, or 900 K for 1 hour. Rooms you session in are like a 5 star hotel. These are good places to check out if you have a big budget to work with.

If you're bored of Bogota, wouldn't hurt to visit Cartegena for a couple days as flights within Colombia are cheap and you can book with expedia. Beaches in Cartegena are crap except for Playa Blanca. There are tours that take you there for a day trip by bus. Girls can be found at the clock tower area and nearby clubs. They are a lot more expensive than Santa Fe girls.

I've never tried seeking arrangement but I'm also curious if it's worth the time investment. Seems like a good way to get access to the college girls. I'm also curious if it's worth trying in the US or whether it's just too expensive.

[Blade2001]

First off, read Routard's guide if you have not already: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=2241562#post2241562.

It is ironic Matthew that Latinlover mentioned Andres. I was thinking that literally was the only above average meal I had in Bogota. It is really funny because Bogota has so many more better looking women than Mexico City or Lima, and those two cities blow Bogota out of the water food wise. I am like kind of laughing that maybe Bogota not being a culinary mecca is a good thing because it keeps the women from being fat which is much more of a problem in those other two cities. LOL.Was just in Mexico City and have to agree with what you said. High end restaurant scene was amazing and although I didn't try any street food, it also looked great. I will say that Bogota restaurants are about half the price of Mexico City restaurants so that's a big advantage. For high end sushi places like Osaka in Bogota, the prices are the same anywhere you go. There is a place called Brutos in Chaperino that has excellent seafood and is a great place to take a girl for dinner.

I was not impressed with the girls in Mexico City. Even in the high end malls I rarely saw any hot girls. There were hot girls in the strip clubs but a lot of those were likely Colombians and Venezuelans. Contrast that to Bogota where there are hot girls everywhere you go, especially in the rich areas.

As far as hotels, I agree Ibis is a nice clean hotel on a budget and close to Santa Fe. The rooms are tiny though so I wouldn't feel comfortable bringing a girl there for all night, maybe for a short session. Always book hotels for two because it only costs a couple dollars extra and then you won't have issues with bringing girls back. I've heard mention of hotel San Francisco, but even though it's right by Santa Fe, I wouldn't recommend it as it's too low end. You have to use old school metal keys and the safes are the old kind that are difficult to operate. I wouldn't even consider bringing a girl there.

A little further away from Santa Fe area is Hotel Bicentanario. This is where I usually stay. It's reasonably priced with nice modern large rooms. The only issue I have with this place is that any time you enter the place a security guard has to open the door for you. I often get back late at night after spending the day in Santa Fe so I end up having to wake up the usually sleeping security guard to let me in, it's annoying for both parties.

Haven't stayed at the Marriot yet but may check it out on the next trip. If I'm staying in the North, I'll usually stay at Dann Carlton hotel and spa. This place is pretty high end but worth the price. It has a swimming pool with hot tub and sauna and The breakfast is amazing. They require a swimming cap in order to use the pool so bring one from home if you plan to stay at this hotel. It's pretty easy to bring girls here as you can avoid the front desk, although they request that you check in any guests. If you plan on calling girls from escort sites, this is a pretty good hotel to stay at.

Keep in mind that traffic in Bogota is bad from 9 AM to 7 PM, it can take an hour to cross the city by taxi or uber. The ubers are ridiculously cheap, but it can be a lot of wasted time for you or any girl coming to you if she has to cross the city in the day time. At night time, it's very fast to get anywhere.

[DonCarlos1234]

Just read that Colombia has just had the 100,000 deaths from covid and worse yet that each day about 11,000 new cases, not good and Bogota is the epicenter.

Please get vac before you come to Colombia, please.

The high rate of new cases and massive daily deaths are the result of the protests in the past 8 weeks, you don't need to be Sherlock Homes to understand that this was going to happen.

Stay safe.

The Tall Man.I hope you found a way to get vaccinated friend. I am & I will be in Bogota Friday. In Medellin July 5. The economic suffering / demonstrations I hope are getting better. People need to do what they can to help each other and bear with this scourge.

[The Tall Man]

I hope you found a way to get vaccinated friend. I am & I will be in Bogota Friday. In Medellin July 5. The economic suffering / demonstrations I hope are getting better. People need to do what they can to help each other and bear with this scourge.Hello DonCarlos, yes I had my first shot over a month ago and the second booster schedule for one month as I got the AstraZeneca (12 weeks apart) here in Medellin.

So I am buying my time and hanging around my home city of Medellin until the booster.

Be safe and enjoy your visit and perhaps we will meet again in Medellin (myself and others have been trying to keep the chicas happy since your last visit in 20202 hehehehe).

The Tall Man.

[LatinaLover#1]

I've got a weeks vacation coming up and decided to go back to Bogota. I was considering Cartegena but between the girls being fewer, more expensive and the relentless touts bothering you I decided against it. It was a tough decision because I would have liked to have been near an ocean this time.

I'd like the boards thoughts on a few things.

1. I really enjoyed Mezzanine and will go again. What other similiar places are nearby that are open? I prefer to stay in Chapinero area as I liked it. Anyone recommend a hotel in this area?

2. Santa Fe just doesn't do it for me. The knocks after five minutes are just too annoying. However I love the seediness of it. Any alternatives to Santa Fe?

3. Colombian Cupid and Seeking. Is it worth it if I want to meet non pros? I've been very interested in a Black Colombia girl to sample.Unfortunately, the pandemic has shut down some lots of things to do. But some of my favorites are still around. If you have a favorite girl to hang out with, go to the cinema in Unicentro Bogota, they have a state of art movies there with 4 D. Also I always try and do some horseback riding with my girl. It's just up the mountain from calle 92 why carrera 7. There are 3 or 4 stables all on the road up the mountain. The trail will take you up the mountain top with an amazing view of Bogota down below. If your really adventurous, take the all day ride to Monserrate on horseback. On the way back down hit the restaurant called Trimonti the foods decent but the view as you dine on the mountain side is great, Ask for a table near the window.

SA is expensive and you need to do some prospecting to separate the scams and prepagos from the real SB. Cons: Bogota has gotten dangerous as have all the cities in Colombia, Cali is a disaster, Ctg. Is hot, the beach is slightly better than mud and expensive. Medellin is more dangerous than ever. So my advice is Bogota, find a girl or 2 you like sending time with, stay more to the north.

If your flying solo, I enjoy the casinos. I hit the jackpot in Broadway Casino for 2. 5 million, a nice score for the Colombian casinos.

[Turgid]

.... I met a woman off seeking, and she was a 10 and a 10 in bed to boot....That's marriage material.

[Showdown]

Unfortunately, the pandemic has shut down some lots of things to do. But some of my favorites are still around. If you have a favorite girl to hang out with, go to the cinema in Unicentro Bogota, they have a state of art movies there with 4 D. Also I always try and do some horseback riding with my girl. It's just up the mountain from calle 92 why carrera 7. There are 3 or 4 stables all on the road up the mountain. The trail will take you up the mountain top with an amazing view of Bogota down below. If your really adventurous, take the all day ride to Monserrate on horseback. On the way back down hit the restaurant called Trimonti the foods decent but the view as you dine on the mountain side is great, Ask for a table near the window.

SA is expensive and you need to do some prospecting to separate the scams and prepagos from the real SB. Cons: Bogota has gotten dangerous as have all the cities in Colombia, Cali is a disaster, Ctg. Is hot, the beach is slightly better than mud and expensive. Medellin is more dangerous than ever. So my advice is Bogota, find a girl or 2 you like sending time with, stay more to the north.

If your flying solo, I enjoy the casinos. I hit the jackpot in Broadway Casino for 2. 5 million, a nice score for the Colombian casinos.Thanks for the info. It is appreciated.

With all that you said would you even recommend Bogota at this time? How is it measured that Bogota is more dangerous that it was when I came in Nov of last year?

Too bad about Cartegena. It would be nice if the beach was better and the mongering also.

So if not Bogota where? I have had too many bad experiences in the DR to return there.

Showdown.

[MikeCct]

Hey LatinaLover!

In regards to SA being expensive. Are you referring to the membership, or the prices that girls from SA ask for? For context, I'm beginning to plan my first trip to Colombia in August and am thinking about using SA to build some prospects before arriving. I'd be very interested in hearing more about your experience using SA in Colombia and to get my expectations set appropriately as for a generic prices SA chicas quote and what to expect generally from chicas from SA.


Unfortunately, the pandemic has shut down some lots of things to do. But some of my favorites are still around. If you have a favorite girl to hang out with, go to the cinema in Unicentro Bogota, they have a state of art movies there with 4 D. Also I always try and do some horseback riding with my girl. It's just up the mountain from calle 92 why carrera 7. There are 3 or 4 stables all on the road up the mountain. The trail will take you up the mountain top with an amazing view of Bogota down below. If your really adventurous, take the all day ride to Monserrate on horseback. On the way back down hit the restaurant called Trimonti the foods decent but the view as you dine on the mountain side is great, Ask for a table near the window.

SA is expensive and you need to do some prospecting to separate the scams and prepagos from the real SB. Cons: Bogota has gotten dangerous as have all the cities in Colombia, Cali is a disaster, Ctg. Is hot, the beach is slightly better than mud and expensive. Medellin is more dangerous than ever. So my advice is Bogota, find a girl or 2 you like sending time with, stay more to the north.

If your flying solo, I enjoy the casinos. I hit the jackpot in Broadway Casino for 2. 5 million, a nice score for the Colombian casinos.

[Uncazadorez]

Santa Fe last night was slow, seems this morning it was more active.any local pro wingmen up for fun, I am at Troya right now.... Please inbox me🤪.

[LatinaLover#1]

Hey LatinaLover!

In regards to SA being expensive. Are you referring to the membership, or the prices that girls from SA ask for? For context, I'm beginning to plan my first trip to Colombia in August and am thinking about using SA to build some prospects before arriving. I'd be very interested in hearing more about your experience using SA in Colombia and to get my expectations set appropriately as for a generic prices SA chicas quote and what to expect generally from chicas from SA.Expensive because when I first signed up a few years back it was like 60 bucks but they continued to increase the price every year to the now 100 a month, that's high for any dating sight. Also the amount of scammers on the sight and prepagos. I haven't sessioned with a prepago for years now. The recurring problem with the sight is the profiles, not sure if they are real or not but lots of them want your information and then disappear. I've seen sooo many profiles be on one city today and another city far away the next day and another city the day after that, so obviously it was scammers. You can weed out a few good ones on there but don't start out to early before your trip, lots of them will disappear before you ever get to Bogotá. I've gathered a handful of really special women that I have remained in contact with so I seem to have more women to see than I have time now. I have a serious novia now for the last 4 years so I only get the chance to see one or two of them every other trip nowadays. Happy hunting.

[LatinaLover#1]

Does anyone know why I see all the posts in a single column all the way to the right of the page? Some posts are a single letter per line. I sent a pm to Admin. But as of yet I have not heard anything!

[Elvis 2008]

What does a 10 look like to you (feel free to post a picture with her face blurred out or a celebrity that she resembles)?I was looking for celebrity doppelgangers and I found this photo: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2380635/Hana-Nitsche-steals-VERY-revealing-pink-gown-boyfriend-Russell-Simmons-charity-event.html.

Yeah, she is kind of a female version of Russell Simmons right down to the bow tie. LOL.

No, she looks very similar to Hana Nitsche with regards to height and weight. HN is more gymnast and body builder toned than my gal and does not have the boob job that HN has. My gal has a more sleek runner's physique and looks like she could run 5 miles as easily as you could walk one. HN does not have the cool unapproachable look that many models has, but my gal looks even more open. To me, she has the friendly open caring vibe of a Price is Right Model and like one of those models, she could make a can opener look sexy with the way she would touch it. With a boob job, my gal is one of the few in the world that could wear that dress HN is wearing and make it look as good. She usually wears more flattering bras but you could not get away with that with that dress.

A friend of mine told me something I had not thought of. When it comes to HN or my gal, who are five nine or five ten and weigh in the 120 to 125 range, he said there are at most 100 women in every state that look like that. I was thinking about it, and sure Texas and California would have more, but on average, I was thinking he was probably right.

When I friend my gal's picture, he said she was a 10. Then he corrected himself, "She is a 9. 5. With a boob job, she would be a 10", and I agree with that. Good thing is that she is open to getting one.


That's marriage material.And she is sweet, fun, and nice to boot. I think we are all looking for something better. Hell, that is why so many of us go to Colombia. When I found her like I said, you are too good to be true, and what is your end game? I was thinking she was playing the long game, but I realized why she was seeing me, and I saw why her affection was genuine.

Like everyone else, I went to Colombia in search of better looking and better performing at a reasonable price. I finally accepted that I was a monger for life, that the greatest pussy in the world was always going to be the next girl. Of course, right after that, I found this gal. So yeah, I am going to be cautious but I am going to lock her up when the time is right. And the good thing is she wants it too.

I never thought that I would say about a woman again, "Nah, I do not give a fuck how much airline tickets cost as long as we are together" or "I am not going to sleep with another woman and risk losing her". I never thought I would say or think that.


As this is subjective, I consider Penelope Cruz, Salma Hayek, Jessica Alba (in their primes) to be 9's.

I'd say maybe Adrianna Lima, and a couple other Brazilian Victoria's Secret models (in their primes) to be 10's.

I'm just curious to know what kind of score she is.PC may be a little better looking than the typical Argentine beauty but my brother said it best about Argentina. That country may have more 8's than anywhere else in the world but I never saw a 10 there. So PC is just one step above the typical Argentine beauty IMO.

SH has a classic Mexican frame that is about as good as can get. JA has more of the thinner Spanish frame and is the spinner type I go for. I can see why you would put her as a 9 but at her best, I might call her a 10.

With Adrianna Lima, she has a Brazilian frame and both my brother and I agreed that the country with the best looking women in Latin America was Brazil, and the best looking women in Brazil were in Sao Paulo not Rio. The irony about Colombia is that overall the women in Argentina were more attractive but Colombia had more 10's than Argentina.

Thing about Colombia is where are they? When my brother and I first came to Colombia, we went to the high end clubs, and the women there wanted more money, performed worse, and did not look as good as their Argentine counterparts. So what makes Colombia and Bogota special is on the low end. But you are not going to find a 10 in the strip clubs at least not in Bogota. I saw two in Medellin but none in Bogota clubs.

The first 10 I saw in Colombia was at a bank. There was a secretary there, and she looked a lot like my gal. She was tall, thin, vivacious and had legs to the moon. Ironically, in Bolivia, we met with a super sweet bank manager who was close to a 10 as well.

When I told my gal what the women in Barranquilla told me their salaries were, one was a bank teller and the other an engineer, she scoffed and said they were lying. My gal is an assistant to a government higher up and I have been amazed at how well jobs in Colombian government pays versus the private sector. I have a feeling that secretarial / assistant pool is where you may find a lot of 10's. I think Colombian bosses like their hot assistants.

[Hotrod10]

Like so many other people I have been in a self imposed quarantine. I am retired and normally I travel to SA at least 5 times a year. The virus isn't the only thing that held me back but it looks like I will be free to travel in the middle of July. I have been to Bogata one time in fact that was my last trip returning 23 Dec. 2019. I think about my experience in Santa Fe often. I wondered about that 4 block area waiting for one of the clubs to open. In all of my travels I have never seen anything like it. Police cars and police patrolling the streets. Back then I never felt insecure.

I read many posts from members that I think live in Bogota and maybe in the Santa Fe area. I am not asking for your or advice on the situation in Santa Fe I have seen your many posts. Actually, I am so excited about coming back to Santa Fe I just want to say here I come.

[Prelude141]

I was looking for celebrity doppelgangers and I found this photo: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2380635/Hana-Nitsche-steals-VERY-revealing-pink-gown-boyfriend-Russell-Simmons-charity-event.html.

Yeah, she is kind of a female version of Russell Simmons right down to the bow tie. LOL.

No, she looks very similar to Hana Nitsche with regards to height and weight. HN is more gymnast and body builder toned than my gal and does not have the boob job that HN has. My gal has a more sleek runner's physique and looks like she could run 5 miles as easily as you could walk one. HN does not have the cool unapproachable look that many models has, but my gal looks even more open. To me, she has the friendly open caring vibe of a Price is Right Model and like one of those models, she could make a can opener look sexy with the way she would touch it. With a boob job, my gal is one of the few in the world that could wear that dress HN is wearing and make it look as good. She usually wears more flattering bras but you could not get away with that with that dress.

A friend of mine told me something I had not thought of. When it comes to HN or my gal, who are five nine or five ten and weigh in the 120 to 125 range, he said there are at most 100 women in every state that look like that. I was thinking about it, and sure Texas and California would have more, but on average, I was thinking he was probably right..There are 10's in Bogota but they are not for you and me, they are for the richest local narcos.

During my last trip I was one night in chapinero, going out of the pussy house. Close to this cheap club is another one I think call the 49. I went in and it was empty, was around midnight. The waiter told me it was still early, girls were downstairs preparing themselves and customers would join soon. The waiter proposed me to go downstairs in the lodge to see the quality of the girls by myself. He escorted me downstairs and here we go, I have seen the most beautiful 10's ever, that was crazy. I went back upstairs and ordered a beer waiting for the beautiful ladies to come upstairs but the only one who came where average GNDs, all the beauties were staying in their lodge. After something like 1 hour while the waiters were insisting to sell me more drinks, I decided to leave. As I was ready to leave a group a local guys came in, you could see they had money and they wanted to throw it away. Few min later, the best beauties came upstairs and joined the group of narcos. I went back to my hotel. I thought that to access those girls you need to be seen by the club as a guy who is able to put big bucks on the table and suddenly, you become the king and the beauties appears from the dark but, that might cost you a fortune.

[Kib123]

For those into takeout full GFE experience like me, I recommend eroticasbogota.com. I recently tried 3 ladies from there and all were as advertised, very accurate pics and description. All were good but my best experience was with Zaira (https://eroticasbogota.com/modelo/zaira/), a fiery ride and speaks very good English.

[SoberHans69]

Going on a mongering holiday / vacation mid August (after my second Covid jab) and if I can't get into Brazil, my next choice is Colombia and I'm edging towards Bogota rather than Medellin.

I prefer the colder weather, it's much easier to get to from where I live and looks like it will be cheaper overall. The one thing putting me off is the dreaded knock on the door. I take medication that makes me last a while and would need closer to 30 minutes than 10.

Is it easy to arrange this with the ST hotels if you pay extra, even double or will they still try to rush you out?

[GreenBud]

All info / opinions are pre-pandemic. All during spring and fall time periods.


Going on a mongering holiday / vacation mid August (after my second Covid jab) and if I can't get into Brazil, my next choice is ColombiaI'm waiting for Bogota's ICU number to go below X%, where bars and clubs are allowed to open.


I prefer the colder weatherMe too. I prefer the weather in Bogota over Medellin. Most people prefer Medellin's weather. In Bogota, it's perfect weather to walk around during a sunny day in jeans and shirt. At nighttime, it can get chilly; you need a light jacket. In Medellin, it's hot when you walk around during a sunny day in jeans and shirt. At nighttime, it's perfect.


The one thing putting me off is the dreaded knock on the door. I take medication that makes me last a while and would need closer to 30 minutes than 10.

Is it easy to arrange this with the ST hotels if you pay extra, even double or will they still try to rush you out?- Numerous ways to avoid / delay that dreaded knock.

- Your idea will work. Get the hour from the ST hotel. You will pay a little extra. Of course, you also have to negotiate an hour with the girl.

- Also, the first knock is just a warning. It depends on the girl if she wants you to quickly finish, or continue until the second knock.

- My worst experiences with the early knock has been with the strip clubs. At Troya and Venus.

- Tipping the cleaning person has been hit and miss. Didn't work at the strip joints.

- If you are a regular at a ST hotel, the guy might give you the entire 30 minutes.

- The early knock also depends on which ST hotel you use. I've gotten early knocks in Medellin, contrary to what other people wrote. You should go to where the locals go to. There, the early knock shouldn't happen. In Medellin Santa Cruz, the second ST hotel on Calle 51 west of Carrera 53 is good. In Bogota Santa Fe, Residencias Villa Real is good. It might be a few pesos more. But it's clean. And they allow in Venezuelans. Even the girls think it's a nice one.

[SoberHans69]

All info / opinions are pre-pandemic. All during spring and fall time periods.

I'm waiting for Bogota's ICU number to go below X%, where bars and clubs are allowed to open.

Me too. I prefer the weather in Bogota over Medellin. Most people prefer Medellin's weather. In Bogota, it's perfect weather to walk around during a sunny day in jeans and shirt. At nighttime, it can get chilly; you need a light jacket. In Medellin, it's hot when you walk around during a sunny day in jeans and shirt. At nighttime, it's perfect.

- Numerous ways to avoid / delay that dreaded knock.

- Your idea will work. Get the hour from the ST hotel. You will pay a little extra. Of course, you also have to negotiate an hour with the girl.

- Also, the first knock is just a warning. It depends on the girl if she wants you to quickly finish, or continue until the second knock.

- My worst experiences with the early knock has been with the strip clubs. At Troya and Venus.

- Tipping the cleaning person has been hit and miss. Didn't work at the strip joints.

- If you are a regular at a ST hotel, the guy might give you the entire 30 minutes..Thanks Greenbud for the detailed reply, appreciate it.

You can always put more clothes on when your cold but can't do anything if you're too hot.

My pale white ass can't handle too much heat. The heat in Thailand kills me.

[Mr Enternational]

Going on a mongering holiday / vacation mid August (after my second Covid jab) and if I can't get into Brazil, my next choice is Colombia and I'm edging towards Bogota rather than Medellin.

I prefer the colder weather, it's much easier to get to from where I live and looks like it will be cheaper overall. The one thing putting me off is the dreaded knock on the door. I take medication that makes me last a while and would need closer to 30 minutes than 10.

Is it easy to arrange this with the ST hotels if you pay extra, even double or will they still try to rush you out?Well I hope you can take the rain with your cold. Why do guys keep talking about a knock on the door? You negotiate the time you want. If you want 1 hour then ask for the price of the girl and the room for 1 hour. Then set the stopwatch on your watch. Simple.

Why would you not be able to get into Brazil?

[SoberHans69]

Well I hope you can take the rain with your cold. Why do guys keep talking about a knock on the door? You negotiate the time you want. If you want 1 hour then ask for the price of the girl and the room for 1 hour. Then set the stopwatch on your watch. Simple.

Why would you not be able to get into Brazil?A little bit rain doesn't bother me, I'm used to it, thanks for the advice about the time.

I'm in England and anyone who has been in England over the previous 14 days Is currently banned from entering Brazil. Hopefully that will change by August but need a back up plan.

[Silver Turtle]

if you pay extra, even double or will they still try to rush you out?You want to do that only with the girls you know well and get along with.

[SoberHans69]

You want to do that only with the girls you know well and get along with.Thank you, suppose if I can't finish in 10 minutes, I could just do three different girls in a row.

[DonCarlos1234]

Anyone know if Woodman is on Vacay? Tried his #'s and email. Nada,

OK here's my 1st day / night in BOG. Made an arrangement with an extremely hot 20 yr old student. She came 2 hours late. My spanish is poor but we ordered a bottle from the bar and head up to my room here in Virrey. Security & front desk are so stunned looking at her they don't ask for ID. I forgot my mask (happens a lot) she does also. We make out in the elevator. Did not expect to be doing deepthroat 5 min into the date. We talk and I help her to undress. She has a strong will and is passionate. I blindfold her, put the dildo in, get her ready and cum in her face while titty fucking her and with the dildo. A few positions later she falls in love with the dildo and I watch till she squirts the bed. I had some negligees and string type outfits that I bought for gifts so I got an X rated Victoria's secret fashion show watching her try them all on, and me photographing it. . which created the need for a second round. More details and photos when time permits. I just had a 10 Seeking girl bail on me so I am looking for Woodman.

[Showdown]

I've been going back and forth between Boca Chica (I atleast wanted to be near a beach) and going back to Bogota. I just pulled the trigger for tickets back to Bogota.

I am going to stay at Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa which is nearly right across the street from my favorite place on my last trip Mezzanine. I'd like to pound every girl there before I leave LOL. I deally I can walk across the street, pound one, walk back across the street and recharge in the room and repeat.

With that said what other casa are around Mezzanine that I can enjoy and partake? I recall last time several were closed. I'm not going to Santa Fe this time. I prefer the casas.

Also I really want to connect with a local girl this time. I have always enjoyed doing that and having these girls show me where they live and other things. Call it the adventurer in me. What app\website is best to connect with non pros that we all know will have sex for money? I have been very interested in a black Colombiana.

Also what's the closest place to Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa to get the COVID test before returning to the states? And I need to use that Migcheck COVID app again correct?

P.S. I splurged on a room with a balcony. ID like to enjoy the breeze and lights at night if possible while I watch episodes of The Shield on my laptop.

Showdown.

[Mr Enternational]

I've been going back and forth between Boca Chica (I atleast wanted to be near a beach) and going back to Bogota. I just pulled the trigger for tickets back to Bogota.What is the difference if you can only be at the beach (or outside for that matter) before 3 pm? You can always make a side trip here to Santa Marta or to Cartagena (or take a chick to San Andres if you want a superb beach.) Even though you do get kicked off the beach here at 6, but at least you don't have to go in at the kicked off beach hour like you are on punishment as you would in Boca Chica.


What app\website is best to connect with non pros that we all know will have sex for money?This is where I lose it with mongers. Why do you guys insist on making hookers out of chicks that are not hookers? The very definition of non-pro is a chick that does not have sex for money. Save your payment for hookers and stop trying to ruin normal chicks. I had to beg this chick to come to Santa Marta with me. She did not want to come because she did not have enough money to pay her part. That is what a non-pro is. Most normal dating sites are ruined because of mongers trying to make hookers out of everyone or assuming that they are already hookers.

[Trim1]

With that said what other casa are around Mezzanine that I can enjoy and partake? I recall last time several were closed. I'm not going to Santa Fe this time. I prefer the casas.Try Paradise Spa at Cra. 17 # 70 A-80. It's about 5 kilometers away from Mezzanine. It's not very close, but it's a lot closer than Santa Fe.

This was previously known as one of the two locations of Rosquillas, but was renamed Paradise Spa. The other location is at CL. 64 ##15-30. DavidSchmauch reviewed Rosquillas in this forum in August 2018.

I will send you a private message with contact information for this casa.

[LatinaLover#1]

I've been going back and forth between Boca Chica (I atleast wanted to be near a beach) and going back to Bogota. I just pulled the trigger for tickets back to Bogota.

I am going to stay at Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa which is nearly right across the street from my favorite place on my last trip Mezzanine. I'd like to pound every girl there before I leave LOL. I deally I can walk across the street, pound one, walk back across the street and recharge in the room and repeat.

With that said what other casa are around Mezzanine that I can enjoy and partake? I recall last time several were closed. I'm not going to Santa Fe this time. I prefer the casas.

Also I really want to connect with a local girl this time. I have always enjoyed doing that and having these girls show me where they live and other things. Call it the adventurer in me. What app\website is best to connect with non pros that we all know will have sex for money? I have been very interested in a black Colombiana.

Also what's the closest place to Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa to get the COVID test before returning to the states? And I need to use that Migcheck COVID app again correct?

P.S. I splurged on a room with a balcony. ID like to enjoy the breeze and lights at night if possible while I watch episodes of The Shield on my laptop.

Showdown.Hey Showdown, A good place to start is Unicentro Bogotá, a 10 minute walk north from your hotel. If you haven't been there it's a very modern mall, if the signs were in English you would think you were in a top notch mall in the USA. Tons of young women walking all over the place. Most are just window shopping because the money is tight and they need to get out of the house. All you have to do is stop one who looks good and ask if they can help you find a cambio or some other bullshit and if you have any game you can get her to have coffee with you or a beer upstairs at the Peruvian restaurant. And if they speak English. Some will, if not, you need to use your Española no matter how bad. Most will be curious because you are gringo. I've done well here with students and 30 something hotties. Shopping alone. Use it as your cooling off time between the 3 or 4 mezzanine massages, better here than in your hotel room alone!! You just might surprise yourself, there are half dozen casinos in the mall. Also to take your shot. If you have any game I am sure you will land a few. The best part of Bogota is the 9 million people, half of them women, a rich target for us, I like those odds. Let us know how you make out. Good luck and be safe. It's very safe in the mall and the surrounding area so no worries.

[Stinky Squid]

Dammit! I wanted to scout out places and share some experiences. But after my first all-nighter I started takin girls from SA on lunch dates. And I focused on those who seemed the least professional and the least about just demanding gifts (some of those who say they want a sugar daddy are really out of their minds!) But there are some non-pros there. And I picked them. Took them out just to feel the chemistry because I do not enjoy sex without the chemistry. Even my first one, while nice, didn't really kiss to my satisfaction. So, I had 4 dates and the second one grew on me as one worth to be wooed over outside of transactional sex. So there I am, I am not a good monger. Sorry. For the time being there will be no further reports from me.

But I will say one last thing for now: Bogota is the best place, hands down. The largest offerings of variety. Medellin a few years ago had its charm, but Bogota has just more in sheer volume, that means you have a better chance of getting what you want.

[Combo]

Dammit! I wanted to scout out places and share some experiences. But after my first all-nighter I started takin girls from SA on lunch dates. And I focused on those who seemed the least professional and the least about just demanding gifts (some of those who say they want a sugar daddy are really out of their minds!) But there are some non-pros there. And I picked them. Took them out just to feel the chemistry because I do not enjoy sex without the chemistry. Even my first one, while nice, didn't really kiss to my satisfaction. So, I had 4 dates and the second one grew on me as one worth to be wooed over outside of transactional sex. So there I am, I am not a good monger. Sorry. For the time being there will be no further reports from me.

But I will say one last thing for now: Bogota is the best place, hands down. The largest offerings of variety. Medellin a few years ago had its charm, but Bogota has just more in sheer volume, that means you have a better chance of getting what you want.Sounds fine to me if you don't mind putting in time.

Bogota definitely has more chicas. It's a much larger city. But a lot of us prefer Medellin because it has better weather and is generally friendlier and easier to navigate.

[Showdown]

What is the difference if you can only be at the beach (or outside for that matter) before 3 pm? You can always make a side trip here to Santa Marta or to Cartagena (or take a chick to San Andres if you want a superb beach.) Even though you do get kicked off the beach here at 6, but at least you don't have to go in at the kicked off beach hour like you are on punishment as you would in Boca Chica.

This is where I lose it with mongers. Why do you guys insist on making hookers out of chicks that are not hookers? The very definition of non-pro is a chick that does not have sex for money. Save your payment for hookers and stop trying to ruin normal chicks. I had to beg this chick to come to Santa Marta with me. She did not want to come because she did not have enough money to pay her part. That is what a non-pro is. Most normal dating sites are ruined because of mongers trying to make hookers out of everyone or assuming that they are already hookers.Mr E Santa Marta is nowhere near Bogata (its near Cartegena from what I can see on the map). Can I assume your suggestion is to take a day trip there via a quick flight from Bogota?

Also those beach photos-is that Santa Marta?

Showdown.

[Showdown]

Hey Showdown, A good place to start is Unicentro Bogot, a 10 minute walk north from your hotel. If you haven't been there it's a very modern mall, if the signs were in English you would think you were in a top notch mall in the USA. Tons of young women walking all over the place. Most are just window shopping because the money is tight and they need to get out of the house. All you have to do is stop one who looks good and ask if they can help you find a cambio or some other bullshit and if you have any game you can get her to have coffee with you or a beer upstairs at the Peruvian restaurant. And if they speak English. Some will, if not, you need to use your Espaola no matter how bad. Most will be curious because you are gringo. I've done well here with students and 30 something hotties. Shopping alone. Use it as your cooling off time between the 3 or 4 mezzanine massages, better here than in your hotel room alone!! You just might surprise yourself, there are half dozen casinos in the mall. Also to take your shot. If you have any game I am sure you will land a few. The best part of Bogota is the 9 million people, half of them women, a rich target for us, I like those odds. Let us know how you make out. Good luck and be safe. It's very safe in the mall and the surrounding area so no worries.Thanks for the tip for someplace to go between Mezzanine massages. I am going to make this area my stomping ground while I am here so any casa within a short Uber ride I am going to take advantage of. I speak Spanish so I will try my trade at the mall and see what happens.

Showdown.

[Stinky Squid]

Forgot one thing. I told you of my two pre-pago flirts over WhatsApp, where I think I did nice for my taste with the one I had over night on my first night. My point was, that having some heart in the conversation leading up to the deal is a good predictor of a good time. There was the other one I had flirted with, a 23 year old who looks like 18 in the pictures, who is apparently also an Onlyfans starlet. I was super curious to try her out. Last night I was ready after I had a dinner with an SA girl who I found out was 17 and a half, which of course meant no activities after a decent dinner and conversation. So I called that girl over who I had previously flirted with and was so eager to have, who seems to be an Onlyfans starlet. Sadly she didn't respond until way after I already slept. And she kept talking about some weird platform and a service contract. Weird. Still not sure it's actually the starlet or just a rip-off. Anyway, I just told her that I won't be doing it after all, but I really wanted her and it was her fault for not responding when I first came in. Told her now I am staying sober because I am working on my novia. She was really nice to me once again an wished me well. I just love to relate to the girls. I know, I'm doing it all wrong.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Sounds fine to me if you don't mind putting in time.

Bogota definitely has more chicas. It's a much larger city. But a lot of us prefer Medellin because it has better weather and is generally friendlier and easier to navigate.I usually always prefer the bigger city, Bogota is awesome.

I prefer Bogota weather to MDE any day, as far as friendlier?

That's a tuff call if you're talking about the putas, many of them in SF are mercenary scammers in cahoots with the scamming st hotels, but some are really sweet.

The same could be said for MDE.

If I could only visit one place or live in one of those cities, I would have to select Bogota!!

I love Latinas the most of any putas, but if you compare them to Asia.

They win in just about every category, except femininity, and honesty.

I would say almost 100% of Asian putas are feminine (at least those I've met) it may 50/50 in Latin America.

And the fuckery of Latina putas is legendary, the shrinkage loss % of sessions can be anywhere from 10-50%.

In Asia its close to 0% for me.

Many say Asia is a feminine culture which begets feminine putas.

Conversely Latin America is a masculine culture (and narco culture in many places) and begets masculine putas, not all but way too many.

My "weird science perfect puta" would be a Latina body and face with an Asian persona.

I really love the obsequious nature of the Asian female and the raw sexuality of the Latina.

[Prelude141]

I've been going back and forth between Boca Chica (I atleast wanted to be near a beach) and going back to Bogota. I just pulled the trigger for tickets back to Bogota.

I am going to stay at Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa which is nearly right across the street from my favorite place on my last trip Mezzanine. I'd like to pound every girl there before I leave LOL. I deally I can walk across the street, pound one, walk back across the street and recharge in the room and repeat.

With that said what other casa are around Mezzanine that I can enjoy and partake? I recall last time several were closed. I'm not going to Santa Fe this time. I prefer the casas.

Also I really want to connect with a local girl this time. I have always enjoyed doing that and having these girls show me where they live and other things. Call it the adventurer in me. What app\website is best to connect with non pros that we all know will have sex for money? I have been very interested in a black Colombiana.

Also what's the closest place to Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa to get the COVID test before returning to the states? And I need to use that Migcheck COVID app again correct?

P.S. I splurged on a room with a balcony. ID like to enjoy the breeze and lights at night if possible while I watch episodes of The Shield on my laptop.

Showdown.Hi Showdown,

How is the hotel Dann Carlton?

I would give a try but do they accept visit of chicas? And do they a robust internet connection as I may need to have to do a bit of work and zoom calls.

[Mr Enternational]

Mr E Santa Marta is nowhere near Bogata (its near Cartegena from what I can see on the map). Can I assume your suggestion is to take a day trip there via a quick flight from Bogota?

Also those beach photos-is that Santa Marta?Yeah. Plane tickets have always been pretty cheap around Colombia. In some cases the plane is cheaper than the bus. You can even buy last minute without breaking the bank. Using Avianca I would go on this version of the site though. This is the Colombian version and it gives cheaper prices. https://www.avianca.com/co/es/.

Correct. I am in the El Rodadero area of Santa Marta right now, but heading back to Barranquilla this afternoon.

[Turgid]

...All you have to do is stop one who looks good and ask if they can help you find a cambio or some other bullshit and if you have any game you can get her to have coffee with you or a beer upstairs at the Peruvian restaurant. And if they speak English. Some will, if not, you need to use your Espaola no matter how bad. Most will be curious because you are gringo. I've done well here with students and 30 something hotties.....You've banged these students and hotties? I take it you're under 50.

[Prelude141]

I've been going back and forth between Boca Chica (I atleast wanted to be near a beach) and going back to Bogota. I just pulled the trigger for tickets back to Bogota.

I am going to stay at Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa which is nearly right across the street from my favorite place on my last trip Mezzanine. I'd like to pound every girl there before I leave LOL. I deally I can walk across the street, pound one, walk back across the street and recharge in the room and repeat.

Showdown.Is the Dann Carlton good and is it girlfriendly?

[GhostRecon]

This was just one bullshit ad but there are lots of them:

Cris 322xxxx786, nueva para estrenar, 18 años why en promocióand.

Hola amor me llamo Cris, te cuento que soy una linda prepago pelinegra deseosa de mucho sexo, soy ninfómana why me gusta hacerlo en todas las poses. No tengo tabúes en la cama, hagamos tu fantasía realidad, quiero que te sientas como mi novio. Tambiéand.

I think that the best thing to do is see if they offer domicilo, if not then avoid. Tires of this shit.

[Showdown]

Is the Dann Carlton good and is it girlfriendly?I am not sure about girl friendly. But I walked through the lobby after one of my sessions at Mezzanine across the street and it is a nice hotel. It has balconies for some of the rooms as well which is something I would like to have this time around. You don't find many hotels with balconies in Bogota.

Showdown.

[The Tall Man]

Anyone know if Woodman is on Vacay? Tried his #'s and email. Nada,

OK here's my 1st day / night in BOG. Made an arrangement with an extremely hot 20 yr old student. She came 2 hours late. My spanish is poor but we ordered a bottle from the bar and head up to my room here in Virrey. Security & front desk are so stunned looking at her they don't ask for ID. I forgot my mask (happens a lot) she does also. We make out in the elevator. Did not expect to be doing deepthroat 5 min into the date. We talk and I help her to undress. She has a strong will and is passionate. I blindfold her, put the dildo in, get her ready and cum in her face while titty fucking her and with the dildo. A few positions later she falls in love with the dildo and I watch till she squirts the bed. I had some negligees and string type outfits that I bought for gifts so I got an X rated Victoria's secret fashion show watching her try them all on, and me photographing it. . which created the need for a second round. More details and photos when time permits. I just had a 10 Seeking girl bail on me so I am looking for Woodman.Good to see that you got back to Colombia DonCarlos!

And has anyone seen Woodman?

Are you out there Woodman?

Hope your safe and blessed!

The Tall Man.

[Showdown]

Just out of curiosity what is the prevalence or even existence of Black or Asian girls available in Bogota? Especially at places like Mezzanine?

Also are their FKK style places around? I like Mezzanine style places but getting a great massage with our without sex and being able to sit down in between sessions would be nice.

Showdown.

[DonCarlos1234]

Good to see that you got back to Colombia DonCarlos!

And has anyone seen Woodman?

Are you out there Woodman?

Hope your safe and blessed!

The Tall Man.Yes. Tall Man, Medellin is next. Woodman was doing his other business but he came out for a few. We relieved previous fun and I went upstairs with a 9 (I could not believe it!) I found her while hitting all the clubs. 150 K girl, 50 K room for 40 min. Woodman saved me $. Also ran into another friend I met in December. Not an ISG person but lives near Santa Fe, Still trying toi shake off altitude sickness, about to take some cialis, I read up the ED meds can help. More later, meeting a ballet dancer now.

[Swann124]

I have my eyes set for Colombia when I travel in Late August. Newbie to international mongering but I'm a native speaker so I figure I can do well.

I'm having trouble deciding Bogota or Medellin. Anyone care to describe the differences for me? Which city is more fun? I'm a young guy that like to party.

Thanks in advance.

[Blade2001]

I am not sure about girl friendly. But I walked through the lobby after one of my sessions at Mezzanine across the street and it is a nice hotel. It has balconies for some of the rooms as well which is something I would like to have this time around. You don't find many hotels with balconies in Bogota.

Showdown.I've stayed at Dann Carlton several times and it's girl friendly, but make sure to book for two. They will suggest you check in any visitors, but you can easily avoid the front desk to bring a girl up if you want to. There are a couple elevators in the hotel and you use the one opposite side from the front desk to sneak a girl in. There is a nice sauna / pool area in the hotel and you will need to check your girl in if you want to visit the pool area with her. Also, they make you wear a shower cap to use the pool so you have to bring one with you. Don't miss out on breakfast as it's great.

I've never been to Mezzanine and didn't realize it was so close to this hotel. I'll need to visit next trip. The club Lidos is also in that area but the girls there are expensive.

[YyzTravel]

I have my eyes set for Colombia when I travel in Late August. Newbie to international mongering but I'm a native speaker so I figure I can do well.

I'm having trouble deciding Bogota or Medellin. Anyone care to describe the differences for me? Which city is more fun? I'm a young guy that like to party.

Thanks in advance.Read the forum. I posted a huge report about the pros / cons of both.

[Zeos1]

Just out of curiosity what is the prevalence or even existence of Black or Asian girls available in Bogota? Especially at places like Mezzanine?

Also are their FKK style places around? I like Mezzanine style places but getting a great massage with our without sex and being able to sit down in between sessions would be nice.

Showdown.None, None, and None.

[ShadowJ]

This hotel is close to perfect in terms of price and modernity. It is even nicer than the Hyatt Place I stay at whenever I'm in Tijuana. They are very girl friendly. I've been bringing up 3 different SA girls every day and haven't had a problem registering them at the front desk. They are generous with extra towels. And the climate control and internet are great.

Now for the (relatively minor) negatives:

1. I thought I would be able to avoid the walk of shame altogether by simply taking girls straight up to my room. I got away with it once. But the second time, the doorman ratted me out. I must have been on camera because the front desk called me at my room to come down and register my guest.

2. This place is a long way from everything.

3. The food choices on Rappi are limited and Domicilios doesn't even deliver to the area. Even the nearby Hilton doesn't have a very good restaurant. At least not one that approaches the main Hilton in Chapinero.

[Prelude141]

I've stayed at Dann Carlton several times and it's girl friendly, but make sure to book for two. They will suggest you check in any visitors, but you can easily avoid the front desk to bring a girl up if you want to. There are a couple elevators in the hotel and you use the one opposite side from the front desk to sneak a girl in. There is a nice sauna / pool area in the hotel and you will need to check your girl in if you want to visit the pool area with her. Also, they make you wear a shower cap to use the pool so you have to bring one with you. Don't miss out on breakfast as it's great.

I've never been to Mezzanine and didn't realize it was so close to this hotel. I'll need to visit next trip. The club Lidos is also in that area but the girls there are expensive.There are actually 2 hotels Dann Carlton. First one called hotel Dann Carlton 4 stars and the second one is casa Dann Carlton hotel and spa 5 star. Which one are you referring to?

[The Tall Man]

Yes. Tall Man, Medellin is next. Woodman was doing his other business but he came out for a few. We relieved previous fun and I went upstairs with a 9 (I could not believe it!) I found her while hitting all the clubs. 150 K girl, 50 K room for 40 min. Woodman saved me $. Also ran into another friend I met in December. Not an ISG person but lives near Santa Fe, Still trying toi shake off altitude sickness, about to take some cialis, I read up the ED meds can help. More later, meeting a ballet dancer now.Excellent!

Yes I always have struggled with higher altitudes even on my first visits to Bogota 30 years ago when I was in top physical condition and now 30 years later still takes my body about a week to adjust and then the sleeplessness and constant headache wanes away. So being in shape physically has much less to do with just how our individual bodies adjust, no rhyme or reason.

My last trip to Bogota was in October 2020 and I tried a prescription drug called Acetazolamide and it seemed to help.

Have fun and what a lucky man with your 9 you scored at the club.

The Tall Man.

[DonCarlos1234]

There are actually 2 hotels Dann Carlton. First one called hotel Dann Carlton 4 stars and the second one is casa Dann Carlton hotel and spa 5 star. Which one are you referring to?Not totally girl friendly. Daytime no problem. After 6 you can pay extra or just walk past and pretend it's your wife. If you try to sneak, could backfire. 15 No. 103-60 4 star & very nice. Better location then 5 star.

[DonCarlos1234]

Excellent!

Yes I always have struggled with higher altitudes even on my first visits to Bogota 30 years ago when I was in top physical condition and now 30 years later still takes my body about a week to adjust and then the sleeplessness and constant headache wanes away. So being in shape physically has much less to do with just how our individual bodies adjust, no rhyme or reason.

My last trip to Bogota was in October 2020 and I tried a prescription drug called Acetazolamide and it seemed to help.

Have fun and what a lucky man with your 9 you scored at the club.

The Tall Man.We will be at high elevation next week at La Isla.

[Blade2001]

There are actually 2 hotels Dann Carlton. First one called hotel Dann Carlton 4 stars and the second one is casa Dann Carlton hotel and spa 5 star. Which one are you referring to?Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa. I think I've also stayed at Dann Carlton hotel but defiinitely prefer Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa.

[Blade2001]

We will be at high elevation next week at La Isla.I'm glad someone brought up elevation (about 8,400 ft) in Bogota. Every time I've traveled there I've been hit with extreme fatigue for several days after I returned back to sea level. It was strange in that I would be fine the whole trip while in Bogota, even hiking up Monserate with no issue. However, after I got back to sea level I would be hit with severe fatigue for several days. The first time this happened I thought that I must have caught some virus or something, but after subsequent trips it became apparent is was the elevation. The plus side was I would always lose a few pounds from walking around at the high elevation.

I was recently in Mexico city which has an elevation of about 7,300 ft but had no ill effects there or when returning to sea level. I had lost a significant amount of weight prior to visiting Mexico city so that may have been a factor. I'm hoping to visit Bogota again in July and it will be interesting to see if this weight loss has cured the post trip elevation fatigue I've experienced after every previous Bogota trip.

[Mr Enternational]

I'm glad someone brought up elevation (about 8,400 ft) in Bogota. Every time I've traveled there I've been hit with extreme fatigue for several days after I returned back to sea level. Isn't that backwards? Some athletes train at high elevation so they can kick ass at sea level where there is more air to breathe. The higher you go, the quicker you will experience hypoxia and pass out. You are saying that having more oxygen makes you more tired??

[Showdown]

Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa. I think I've also stayed at Dann Carlton hotel but defiinitely prefer Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa.https://g.page/danncarltonbogota?share

Almost directly across the street from Mezzanine.

Showdown.

[Showdown]

None, None, and None.Thanks. I did see black girls in Santa Fe but never any of the casas.

By the way-are the casas open on Sundays?

Showdown.

[Prelude141]

https://g.page/danncarltonbogota?share

Almost directly across the street from Mezzanine.

Showdown.This one yes, very close to mezzanine but blade2001 is referring to the other one slightly more in the south. Not sure will one I will pick next time I m there are both have correct to good reports and are obviously girl friendly. I usually would prefer to stay in chapinero center to be close to all the casas but. Anything north Virrey is a bit far for me but at the same time a nice 5 stars hotel is appealing.

[MiamiSammy]

Isn't that backwards? Some athletes train at high elevation so they can kick ass at sea level where there is more air to breathe. The higher you go, the quicker you will experience hypoxia and pass out. You are saying that having more oxygen makes you more tired??You've got it right- that's why the Olympic Training Center is in Colorado Springs. Not saying he's not tired at sea level, but it's not due to less oxygen at sea level.

[Elvis 2008]

I'm glad someone brought up elevation (about 8,400 ft) in Bogota. Every time I've traveled there I've been hit with extreme fatigue for several days after I returned back to sea level. It was strange in that I would be fine the whole trip while in Bogota, even hiking up Monserrate with no issue. However, after I got back to sea level I would be hit with severe fatigue for several days. The first time this happened I thought that I must have caught some virus or something, but after subsequent trips it became apparent is was the elevation. The plus side was I would always lose a few pounds from walking around at the high elevation.That is interesting. There are quite a few changes that happen with high altitude and the one that probably is affecting you is something called 2,3 BPG:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2, 3-Bisphosphoglyceric_acid#cite_note-hyperthyroidism2004-3.

When you go up to higher altitude levels, the amount of 2,3 BPG goes up very quickly. Higher 2,3 BPG cause a red blood cell to have a decreased affinity for oxygen which sounds like you have less oxygen but that is not correct. With more 2,3 BPG, you have more available oxygen to use as it is not stuck to the red blood cell.

The amount of 2,3 BPG can vary a lot from person to person as there are conditions that can cause less or more of it. Higher thyroid for example means more 2,3 BPG and lower thyroid means lower levels.

Given that you can go hiking so quickly at Monserrate, it suggests to me you form high levels of 2,3 BPG very quickly and your cells have more oxygen available to them than the average person. Then you can to a lower altitude, you have lower levels of 2,3 BPG and have much less free oxygen running around which could cause fatigue.

Overweight people have higher levels of 2,3 BPG so it will be interesting to see if your weight loss has an effect. It might be worth having your doctor check your thyroid too.

I think I have a more normal response with my 2,3 BPG levels because when I have gone from Bogota to a city with a lower altitude I immediately feel better. It is interesting though that one of the reason Colombianas may be thinner than women in other countries is that you burn more calories at a higher altitude and there is going to be a different effect when you eat carbohydrates high up as well. There is a really good chance that people have less carb craving at higher altitudes because the carbs do not make you feel as good as at lower altitudes.

[Eroded0722]

Yes. Tall Man, Medellin is next. Woodman was doing his other business but he came out for a few. We relieved previous fun and I went upstairs with a 9 (I could not believe it!) I found her while hitting all the clubs. 150 K girl, 50 K room for 40 min. Woodman saved me $. Also ran into another friend I met in December. Not an ISG person but lives near Santa Fe, Still trying toi shake off altitude sickness, about to take some cialis, I read up the ED meds can help. More later, meeting a ballet dancer now.Can somebody message me woodmans WhatsApp? Flying in tomorrow and want to schedule a tour!

[ShadowJ]

My evening SA date flaked on me so I headed to Santa Fe. Again, I was disappointed. I had a blast in Santa Fe in October and January. But it seemed like slim pickings last night. The south stroll had nothing. There were a few attractive girls around the clubs but not many and I didn't see anything that made me want to take a seat at any of the bars. Several of my Venezuelan friends have returned home for one reason or another. I wonder if this accounts for the relative lack of talent. You would think the difficult times in Colombia would inspire more girls to take to Santa Fe. Maybe they are all on Seeking.

One other item of note: there were a lot more young men wandering around seemingly up to no good.

[MiamiBoy1]

My evening SA date flaked on me so I headed to Santa Fe. Again, I was disappointed. I had a blast in Santa Fe in October and January. But it seemed like slim pickings last night. The south stroll had nothing. There were a few attractive girls around the clubs but not many and I didn't see anything that made me want to take a seat at any of the bars. Several of my Venezuelan friends have returned home for one reason or another. I wonder if this accounts for the relative lack of talent. You would think the difficult times in Colombia would inspire more girls to take to Santa Fe. Maybe they are all on Seeking.

One other item of note: there were a lot more young men wandering around seemingly up to no good.I was there in the early afternoon yesterday. Not a single girl I would bang. I thought it was too early (around 1:00 PM), but it looks like at night it sucks as well. Seeking sucks too, read my recent post in SA thread. They are flaky and don't need our business. I have been to Colombia many times, but this time is the worst, despite great exchange rate and the fact that everything is back to normal, no protests or curfews. I got here from Rio, and it is day and night in terms of the talent, but I have to admit the hottest girls in Rio are non-pros.

If anyone would like to share good/verified SA contacts, please PM me.

[MarquisdeSade1]

That is interesting. There are quite a few changes that happen with high altitude and the one that probably is affecting you is something called 2,3 BPG:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2, 3-Bisphosphoglyceric_acid#cite_note-hyperthyroidism2004-3.

When you go up to higher altitude levels, the amount of 2,3 BPG goes up very quickly. Higher 2,3 BPG cause a red blood cell to have a decreased affinity for oxygen which sounds like you have less oxygen but that is not correct. With more 2,3 BPG, you have more available oxygen to use as it is not stuck to the red blood cell.

The amount of 2,3 BPG can vary a lot from person to person as there are conditions that can cause less or more of it. Higher thyroid for example means more 2,3 BPG and lower thyroid means lower levels.

Given that you can go hiking so quickly at Monserrate, it suggests to me you form high levels of 2,3 BPG very quickly and your cells have more oxygen available to them than the average person. Then you can to a lower altitude, you have lower levels of 2,3 BPG and have much less free oxygen running around which could cause fatigue.

Overweight people have higher levels of 2,3 BPG so it will be interesting to see if your weight loss has an effect. It might be worth having your doctor check your thyroid too.

I think I have a more normal response with my 2,3 BPG levels because when I have gone from Bogota to a city with a lower altitude I immediately feel better. It is interesting though that one of the reason Colombianas may be thinner than women in other countries is that you burn more calories at a higher altitude and there is going to be a different effect when you eat carbohydrates high up as well. There is a really good chance that people have less carb craving at higher altitudes because the carbs do not make you feel as good as at lower altitudes.I climbed Monserrate with relative ease in the rain, despite falling on my ass once near the top, it wasn't so bad, considering the rain and how steep it is.

Fast forward to MDE and I felt more lethargic, my breathing felt shallow in BOG but my energy was fine.

My breathing improved once in MDE but my energy seemed to decline, can you opine on the drug Tallman just posted about?

[Prelude141]

I was there in the early afternoon yesterday. Not a single girl I would bang. I thought it was too early (around 1:00 PM), but it looks like at night it sucks as well. Seeking sucks too, read my recent post in SA thread. They are flaky and don't need our business. I have been to Colombia many times, but this time is the worst, despite great exchange rate and the fact that everything is back to normal, no protests or curfews. I got here from Rio, and it is day and night in terms of the talent, but I have to admit the hottest girls in Rio are non-pros.

If anyone would like to share good/verified SA contacts, please PM me.Why do all focus on Santa Fe? There are thousands of options in Bogota and you seem all to focus on the shithole of the city. I don't Get it.

[Trim1]

I read that Atunes reopened on June 28 after being closed for 15 months. Does anyone here know how much it costs to buy a non-alcoholic drink there like water or orange juice?

[Elvis 2008]

I climbed Monserrate with relative ease in the rain, despite falling on my ass once near the top, it wasn't so bad, considering the rain and how steep it is.

Fast forward to MDE and I felt more lethargic, my breathing felt shallow in BOG but my energy was fine.

My breathing improved once in MDE but my energy seemed to decline, can you opine on the drug Tallman just posted about?That is a pH thing. You go to Bogota and the first thing you do subconsciously is breathe faster to compensate for the low oxygen levels. This induces a pH issue called respiratory alkalosis because you are blowing off too much carbon dioxide. Acetazolamide does the opposite of that. It helps the kidneys get rid of bicarbonate and in so doing causes metabolic acidosis. The body will compensate for this acid-base issue on its own but this drug accelerates the process. You take it a few days before you have the climb in altitude and your first few days arriving in Bogota.

It is funny the last two times I went to Bogota I was in shape and not in shape. In shape, I had no problems, but the last time I went when I was out of shape was brutal: headaches, fatigue ETC. It is amazing how much this can vary from not just person to person but from time to time.

[Silver Turtle]

Yes, Santa Fe is half-dead during day and night. There are fewer girls, and they are not attractive. I will fly to Medellin soon.

[JjBee62]

After 8 days of quarantine in Bogota, I'm almost recovered from Covid. The hotel has been very helpful, checking up on me daily and they even cut my room rate by 20%. Although, if I'd suspected I had Covid, and would need a quarantine, I'd have found myself a cheaper hotel, I have no complaints with the airport Courtyard by Marriott.

If all goes well, I hope to have a negative test on Monday, ending my quarantine a day or two before I fly home. Now I'm trying to decide how best to use that small window. Other than getting out and eating something that didn't come from room service, I'm undecided.

I still tire easily, so I'm not planning on anything too energetic, but I might find a massage or a club to relieve some boredom. I've had several offers from girls in Medellin to come and take care of me, as well as one in Pereira. One or two of them would be tempting, but not real thrilled with that route.

I'm familiar with the mezzanine, along with another nearby spa, but it's probably disappeared by now. The northern clubs don't much appeal to me, although I'll consider if there's one that I just can't miss. I'm not interested in pulling off the street in Santa Fe. I'd rather go to a club with decent onsite rooms. At this stage of my recovery, I'd probably be satisfied with a good, professional massage with a good happy ending.

I'll probably post a "What's there to do in Bogota" on Facebook, just to see if any of the Medellin girls have a local they want to recommend. If anyone has a suggestion on how to spend a few hours, with minimal physical exertion, let me know.

[Blade2001]

That is interesting. There are quite a few changes that happen with high altitude and the one that probably is affecting you is something called 2,3 BPG:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2, 3-Bisphosphoglyceric_acid#cite_note-hyperthyroidism2004-3.

When you go up to higher altitude levels, the amount of 2,3 BPG goes up very quickly. Higher 2,3 BPG cause a red blood cell to have a decreased affinity for oxygen which sounds like you have less oxygen but that is not correct. With more 2,3 BPG, you have more available oxygen to use as it is not stuck to the red blood cell.

The amount of 2,3 BPG can vary a lot from person to person as there are conditions that can cause less or more of it. Higher thyroid for example means more 2,3 BPG and lower thyroid means lower levels.

Given that you can go hiking so quickly at Monserrate, it suggests to me you form high levels of 2,3 BPG very quickly and your cells have more oxygen available to them than the average person. Then you can to a lower altitude, you have lower levels of 2,3 BPG and have much less free oxygen running around which could cause fatigue.

Overweight people have higher levels of 2,3 BPG so it will be interesting to see if your weight loss has an effect. It might be worth having your doctor check your thyroid too.

I think I have a more normal response with my 2,3 BPG levels because when I have gone from Bogota to a city with a lower altitude I immediately feel better. It is interesting though that one of the reason Colombianas may be thinner than women in other countries is that you burn more calories at a higher altitude and there is going to be a different effect when you eat carbohydrates high up as well. There is a really good chance that people have less carb craving at higher altitudes because the carbs do not make you feel as good as at lower altitudes.Thanks for that info. After lots of googling after previous trips, your explanation is the only one that might explain what I've been experiencing. I'll need to research what you mentioned a bit more, but I'll be happy if I can continue visiting Bogota as I feel it's the best city for our hobby on this side of the world.

[Member #4729]

Hello friends,

I am new to this forum thread but have been posting in the Rio thread for a while as I have spent the last seven weeks there and just arrived in Bogota a few days ago. Anyone making the trip directly to Colombia to Brazil should be aware that you need proof of a current yellow fever vaccination. Since I did not have this, I had to get vaccinated in Rio, and then go to Anvisa in the GIG airport to receive the official document required by airlines.

I had visited Bogota immediately before the pandemic started, albeit briefly, so was curious to see how things have changed. The first night after I get some sleep, I started in Chapinero, where I checked out Las Divas, Pussy House, and Club Fortynine. Pussy House and Las Divas have really gone down hill- at this point its just basically a bunch of local dudes watching soccer games with a few tired working girls lounging around. The girls were average and below average- and at Pussy House especially, the vibe was really strange with obnoxious music, aggressive crew, and was just overall uncomfortable. Beers were 10 mil I believe. I had remembered a club that was more enticing and seductive. Over at Club Fortynine things seemed to be in partial disrepair and the club was generally shabby compared to the photos on the internet. However, the ratio was much better with perhaps 10-12 SW lounging around. I grabbed an overpriced beer (20 mil) and approached the most attractive girl, a little 20 year old spinner w braces and big tits-there who quoted me 150 mil, but said that BBBJ was not allowed- not even if I met her outside of the club.

This unwillingness to perform BBBJ in just about all the girls I've met the last few days is a real bummer. Such service, including CIM or COF is more common than not in Rio de Janeiro, as is the DFK and groping that precedes taking a girl at a Terma. None of those things exist here. I asked one girl why and she said "she doesn't want to die". I mean, seriously? I'm not going to be enjoying Bogota or Colombia that much if this trend doesn't break. Why would anyone even want to visit a country in which the main enjoyable part of sex is not on the menu? Why would we just not go to another country instead?

Back to our story: frustrated I decide to head to Santa Fe, which I visited briefly in a previous trip but never made it inside a club. I started in Atunes (I think the spelling might be different) - and as it was a Friday night around 9 pm, the place was packed with local dudes and perhaps 20 WG. I liked the vibe a lot- but it was just too loud and crowded to really operate so I had another overpriced beer and headed next door to Troya where the scene was a bit better- here I could actually talk to the ladies and some of them were quite attractive! However- as previously mentioned, all propositions of BBBJ, even with extra compensation were refused, almost as if I said something rude and offensive. I'm still trying to figure this one out- my friend says its because these girls are so high volume. Anyways- I stumbled over to Paisas, already 5 beers deep and not wanting to drink anymore, and one of the many aggressive male crew members approaches me to tell me I have to drink to stick around. Ok fine, I'm out of here.

Wandering semi-drunk around the streets of SF at around 11 pm is perhaps not the smartest thing, but here I was. It is quite an amazing scene, with a surprisingly number of attractive women. A real feat for the eyes. Now and then you look over and there's just a completely legitimate stunner staring back at you as she loiters seductively in her dimly lit "nook". At this point I am still not really comprehending the system here and how these girls and the clubs are linked- I have not yet seen a room and the interconnecting hallways.

Instead of catching an uber, I stumble up the stairs of California, where the vibe is a little more to my liking. As I am taking a piss in the trough, a very aggressive local comes in to tell me in a very loud and animated fashion how great my facial hair is, or something similar. I am holding my penis, trying to pee, and manage to tell him thanks, but also can you see I am trying to pee? Back in the club, there are at least a few good looking ladies and a vibe that's easier to work than the previous clubs. Eventually a spinner comes and sits down next to me and I buy her a Corona. We get to talking and what do you know- she agrees to BBBJ and CIM! I'm astounded and so accept her offer of 100 mil and we are off- through some sort of labyrinth of hallways through another club, finally into a shabby room in a warren of shabby rooms. I think these are the same rooms the girls in front on the street take you to- so I can see the backend a little better. I pay the girl upfront (which I don't like to do so please mongers tell me if that's the legit thing here) The noise of all the clubs was deafening as I remove my clothes and we begin. Unfortunately I received perhaps the most robotic and mechanical attempt at a blowjob that I can recall, and the attitude of the girl was similarly detached, with no kissing, no eye contact- almost just like a human sex doll – and she wouldn't even let me put my hand on her head to guide it down to my cock. This combined with my lingering fatigue resulted in a poor performance on my part, although I manage to squirt out a half hearted little cumshot through a barely erect penis which she quickly spits in the sink. She offers BBFS to me at a greater price, and later on through whatsapp she agrees to CIP on another encounter for 300 mil. Not sure if I'm going to bite given the robotic nature of her performance and the fact that she is so high volume. Still- it was nice to finally get some uncovered service. I get the number of another girl on my way out and head home.

The next day a fellow ISG monger and myself take a visit to "Mezzanine" which is a collection of 6 or so massage rooms a little north of the Parque 93 area. As we come go up the stairs onto said mezzanine all the doors open as if by magic and all the girls peep out to show their cute little selves. I see a cute spinner in the first room and just go with it- my friend does a little shopping before ultimately selecting a girl from the same room unbeknownst to me. Keep in mind I don't do massages and this was just for a laugh- so things that would be familiar to some were new to me. The price was 100 mil. The room was tiny with a rickety little table that I try to relax on upon undressing. The girl is pretty hot, but will not allow kisses so I just suck on her cute titties and finger her pussy which is well lubricated. She puts a condom on my stick and tries to suck on it through the condom- which as I said before I just don't do. There is no sensation- it doesn't do anything for me- so cock remains sadly flaccid throughout the whole comic affair. So sad. If this girl actually did a real BBBJ with CIM, or COF I think I would've gotten pretty hard and for sure pumped her vaginally covered, but once again- that type of service not found easily in Bogota. Still it wasn't unenjoyable for something like $27 usd. My friend had better luck in the room next door and managed to bust a nut. I will not be coming back to this location or any other parlor- for someone like me there is very little point.

The next day I'm really not feeling horny (a theme is emerging here) - perhaps I'm low in my testosterone cycle, perhaps I'm down about all this ridiculous covered sex business, perhaps mongering for 7 weeks straight has taken away the fire, who knows? Nevertheless I decide to recon the more upscale clubs in the Zona T area and so I head out. Upon approaching what used to be an imposing black building with Club Casanova and another club, I see the building has been painted all white and all the doors are shut. Some loitering locals tell me these clubs are permanently closed, but want to show me some other clubs. I agree, knowing full well I will need to throw a tip of 2-4 mil for his services, but that's not really a lot. First club he takes me to "Copacabana"-ironic because I was just coming from the real Copacabana and let me tell you there is nothing in common. I hurriedly sip down the 50 mil Heineken and the lineup of average girls eyes me leerily until they figure out I'm not interested and go sit down. Poor things. This club is awful, don't go.

Next my new "friend" takes me to The Blue Room, which is actually a nice space with potential inside, but perhaps I came to early because there were literally two girls. Other mongers can chime in if this is a worthwhile club, but for now I have too little info. The last club he takes me too "Olimpio" or "Olympia" or some derivation of the word is actually not bad with a healthy selection of girls and a nice big space. I buy another 50 mil corona and grab a chica to go sit with. She's a hot little spinner with a beautiful smile and big eyes and claims to be 20. I buy her an overpriced drink and we hang out a bit. I tell her I'm not taking anyone tonight, but give her 40 mil in cash and she rubs her ass against me and grinds which is very pleasant. Actually had a nice relaxing time talking to this chica for a while, not sure if it was worth 240 mil (the ultimate damage from drinks, etc), but I wasn't going to session that night so it was better than nothing. I get her whatsapp and she quotes me some ridiculous amount for sex but eventually comes down to 400 mil for two hours, and then later 300 mil for one hour. Finally I ask her about BBBJ and CIM and she flatly refuses saying she "doesn't want to die". Again, seriously? Who has been telling these girls not to do BBBJ? Why is this entire country so uptight. Brazilians will do that AND anal like its brushing your teeth.

So that's my first few days in Bogota, I have to say I'm not impressed for the reasons mentioned here. If it's such a huge effort to get what I need (BBBJ), I'm sure I will not be coming back. I've got a few SA coals in the fire, but am reluctant to pull the trigger on those only to be in the same situation. Regardless, my Airbnb is still for about 10 more days before I got to Medellin so I will have to figure out how to make due until then. If anyone has any suggestions, please, please, please let me know. So far Bogota is not impressive in the mongering category and its freaking cold and the altitude is bummer. Sorry to be such a bummer myself, but the Zebra calls it like he sees it.

Zebra Out.

[Blade2001]

Isn't that backwards? Some athletes train at high elevation so they can kick ass at sea level where there is more air to breathe. The higher you go, the quicker you will experience hypoxia and pass out. You are saying that having more oxygen makes you more tired??Yeah it's backwards and why it's so strange. Elvis provided a pretty good explanation of what might be happening to me.

[Xpartan]

After 8 days of quarantine in Bogota, I'm almost recovered from Covid. The hotel has been very helpful, checking up on me daily and they even cut my room rate by 20%. Although, if I'd suspected I had Covid, and would need a quarantine, I'd have found myself a cheaper hotel, I have no complaints with the airport Courtyard by Marriott.

If all goes well, I hope to have a negative test on Monday, ending my quarantine a day or two before I fly home. Do NOT take a test. The CDC warns against taking a test after the recovery, since the remnants of virus, which aren't contagious anymore, can linger for months. Get a note from the local physician instead to get cleared for the flight.

Disclosure: I'm not a medical professional, so contact one to clarify.


What if I recently recovered from COVID-19?
CDC does not recommend getting tested again in the three months after a positive viral test, as long as you do not have symptoms of COVID-19. If you have had a positive viral test in the past 3 months, and you have met the criteria to end isolation, you may travel instead with documentation of your positive viral test results and a letter from your healthcare provider or a public health official that states you have been cleared for travel. The positive test result and letter together are referred to as “documentation of recovery.”https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html

[JjBee62]

Do NOT take a test. The CDC warns against taking a test after the recovery, since the remnants of virus, which aren't contagious anymore, can linger for months. Get a note from the local physician instead to get cleared for the flight.

Disclosure: I'm not a medical professional, so contact one to clarify.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.htmlGood advice and I appreciate it. I didn't consider whether or not I'm now likely to have false positives. Time to contact the hotel manager and see if he can get me a doctor's recovery statement.

[MiamiBoy1]

Why do all focus on Santa Fe? There are thousands of options in Bogota and you seem all to focus on the shithole of the city. I don't Get it.What options do you want us to focus on? Bogota now is not what it used to be. Most higher end clubs in the North are either closed or moved. Stopped by Mezzanine with my wingman on a Friday afternoon. Poor selection, barely 10 girls in total, average looking. CBJ is standard, and they won't do BBBJ even for an extra fee. Seeking Arrangement sucks, I have said this already. My wingman visited a few clubs in Chapinero. La 49, Pussyhouse, Las Divas on a Friday night. All three sucked, no talent. Tinder sucks too, I got over 90 matches, but not a single one I would do. Colombia used to be my #1 mongering destination, but after I visited Rio this June, Brazil becomes my number 1 in terms of talent and quality of life. I'm not sure if I ever want to come back to Colombia.

Speaking of Santa Fe, do yourself a favor and don't get drunk there and watch your pockets. My buddy lost 2 phones in less than a week. One was stolen by a working girl, second one was pickpocketed.

[MarquisdeSade1]

What options do you want us to focus on? Bogota now is not what it used to be. Most higher end clubs in the North are either closed or moved. Stopped by Mezzanine with my wingman on a Friday afternoon. Poor selection, barely 10 girls in total, average looking. CBJ is standard, and they won't do BBBJ even for an extra fee. Seeking Arrangement sucks, I have said this already. My wingman visited a few clubs in Chapinero. La 49, Pussyhouse, Las Divas on a Friday night. All three sucked, no talent. Tinder sucks too, I got over 90 matches, but not a single one I would do. Colombia used to be my #1 mongering destination, but after I visited Rio this June, Brazil becomes my number 1 in terms of talent and quality of life. I'm not sure if I ever want to come back to Colombia.

Speaking of Santa Fe, do yourself a favor and don't get drunk there and watch your pockets. My buddy lost 2 phones in less than a week. One was stolen by a working girl, second one was pickpocketed.I don't like SF either and online is not for me, escorts and brothels have pimps / madames "calling the shots".

So I do my best work, off the beaten path, this is where I really excel jajajajaaa.

I wish I was there to show you some tips!!

I do off road mountain biking, I think of it the same way.

No guts no glory (many surgeries and trips to the ER but in the end YOLO).

[PirateMorgan]

I live here. I have a rare condition. My body does not acclimate to the altitude. I finally woke up and started drinking te coca. Wow. No problems for 3 weeks. And one day I walked, slowly, about 7 miles. Otherwise, I would have these 'spells' where I would feel like I was going to faint. I had a complete heart exam at Fundacion Santa Fe. Total negative. I drink the tea twice or three times a day. It has nothing to do with cocaine.

[Mr Enternational]

Now I'm trying to decide how best to use that small window. Other than getting out and eating something that didn't come from room service, I'm undecided.
I just passed by your hotel and thought to myself, why didn't he order Rappi?

[Elvis 2008]

I live here. I have a rare condition. My body does not acclimate to the altitude. I finally woke up and started drinking te coca. Wow. No problems for 3 weeks. And one day I walked, slowly, about 7 miles. Otherwise, I would have these 'spells' where I would feel like I was going to faint. I had a complete heart exam at Fundacion Santa Fe. Total negative. I drink the tea twice or three times a day. It has nothing to do with cocaine.Cocoa tea is a stimulant and opens up your airways. That is the effect you are seeing.

When I am in Bogota for more than 3 days, my nose starts running. I bought a nasal antihistamine and it went away. In your case, you should do that if your nose is stopped up like mine.

And for a better stimulant, use an asthma inhaler like Advair. It is a steroid in combination with a bronchodilator. You take two puffs of that twice daily. I think you can get that over the counter in Bogota.

It sounds like you just have routine asthma / allergies. The problem with natural stimulants is that most only last at most 4 or 5 hours. And stimulants (like cocaine) make sex better. I am more sensitive and have bigger loads when I use stimulants.

[JjBee62]

I just passed by your hotel and thought to myself, why didn't he order Rappi?I tried to order Rappi in Medellin and after setting everything up and confirming the test charge on my card, 10 minutes later they told me they had cancelled the order because they couldn't confirm the charge to my card. Ended up ordering pizza.

Mostly my appetite hasn't been worth the effort. A cup of yogurt for breakfast and a few spoonful's of Ajiaco for dinner was all I could handle. Back to eating full meals today. Tomorrow morning I've got a doctor coming over to hopefully give me a certificate of recovery, so I can get off quarantine.

[JjBee62]

I live here. I have a rare condition. My body does not acclimate to the altitude. I finally woke up and started drinking te coca. Wow. No problems for 3 weeks. And one day I walked, slowly, about 7 miles. Otherwise, I would have these 'spells' where I would feel like I was going to faint. I had a complete heart exam at Fundacion Santa Fe. Total negative. I drink the tea twice or three times a day. It has nothing to do with cocaine.My first time in Bogota I was still in halfway decent shape. The altitude didn't bother me until the day I tried walking up a slight hill. Damn near wiped me out.

My other 2 visits were after spending months in Medellin, losing quite a bit of weight and walking 5-10 miles every day. One day I walked nearly 30 miles and other than sore legs I felt great. That includes walking all the way from Parque Virrey to Unicentro mall and then back through Chapinero.

This time, with dealing with the Covid, there have been days when walking to the bathroom was an ordeal. I'm hoping tomorrow I'll get to at least do a bit of walking to test my recovery.

[Showdown]

Zebra when you went to Mezzanine the reason why all of the doors magically opened when you went up the stairs was because each of those rooms the girls are in have a bank of cameras pointing at the stairs you have to walk up and the walkway to each of the doors. So they see you coming.

Also I had to literally either bend the girl over the massage table or have her open her legs and sit on the edge. Thats how small the rooms are.

Still for a quick nut its not bad an an interesting experience.

Showdown.

[Member #4729]

I lasted 5 nights in Bogota before I decided it wasn't for me. Flying to Medellin tomorrow.

Other than the previously mentioned difficulty finding BBBJ and associated extras, it seems like the pandemic and economic issues have changed the mongering scene. Cassanova and Lidos have shut down or moved, the remaining clubs in Zona T area are terrible- Pussy House, La 49 are in decline, and as people have mentioned Santa Fe is not up to par. In general the streets seem empty- "for sale" and "for rent" signs are in about half the windows. I am in Parque 93, and walking around this morning I felt like I was in a post-apocalyptic sci fi movie where I was the last man alive. Add to that its cold and the thin air makes it hard to sleep- not sure why this is on anyone's list.

My buddy had a great experience 6 months ago with SA, but it seems even that has gone downhill. I think the main draw for Bogota at this point is for people who like quick, covered, cheap, impersonal sex in SF or the casas- which granted is still a draw. Other than that, there's no reason to be here. I doubt I will come back.

Zebra.

[JjBee62]

Thanks to the advice of Xpartan, I just received a certificate of recovery from Covid and will be heading home Thursday morning. The best part was, it's cheaper to have a doctor make a house call than it is to get a Covid test at home. 150 k for the doctor and she was hot.

The site I used for the doctor was.

https://controlmedic.co

You can handle everything through WhatsApp.

[Member #4729]

Zebra when you went to Mezzanine the reason why all of the doors magically opened when you went up the stairs was because each of those rooms the girls are in have a bank of cameras pointing at the stairs you have to walk up and the walkway to each of the doors. So they see you coming.

Also I had to literally either bend the girl over the massage table or have her open her legs and sit on the edge. Thats how small the rooms are.

Still for a quick nut its not bad an an interesting experience.

Showdown.I figured that. It's a cool little place and my girl was actually attractive. Just in general it might be that format is not for me. But yeah, crazy small rooms.

[Prelude141]

I lasted 5 nights in Bogota before I decided it wasn't for me. Flying to Medellin tomorrow.

Other than the previously mentioned difficulty finding BBBJ and associated extras, it seems like the pandemic and economic issues have changed the mongering scene. Cassanova and Lidos have shut down or moved, the remaining clubs in Zona T area are terrible- Pussy House, La 49 are in decline, and as people have mentioned Santa Fe is not up to par. In general the streets seem empty- "for sale" and "for rent" signs are in about half the windows. I am in Parque 93, and walking around this morning I felt like I was in a post-apocalyptic sci fi movie where I was the last man alive. Add to that its cold and the thin air makes it hard to sleep- not sure why this is on anyone's list.

My buddy had a great experience 6 months ago with SA, but it seems even that has gone downhill. I think the main draw for Bogota at this point is for people who like quick, covered, cheap, impersonal sex in SF or the casas- which granted is still a draw. Other than that, there's no reason to be here. I doubt I will come back.

Zebra.Gosh, you are depressing me, I'm due to fly there in August. Hopefully I have a chica there who waits for me but that was not the plan to shag only my regular. I hope that your view is subjective and I will find fun. I used to go through the casas in chapinero during day lights, I found gems there. Are they all closed as well? I learnt that chica milenio is closed but there were at least 20 more in the area.

Covered blowjob is not new in Bogota, it has always been. Are you sure you visited before? It changes to uncovered only once the girl knows you a bit more after you saw her a few times.

[JohnnyWalker55]

Currently otg, and having been all over Brazil, Colombia, and mexico this year, santa fe has the best sw talent as well as prince / quality in the Western Hemisphere. Maybe some of you guys arent peeking in all the doorways, side streets, etc? It's not like mde where they all stand there eying you down in a square block. Some are eating icecream, talking in groups, there isn't a better place for wam bam sw rn imo. Obviously there are slow days, during copa america itsempty and DIA festivosc but other than that it's almost 70% vennies out here and there is always somebody to fuck everyday 10-10 ime.

I guess it's a ymmv thing, the sessions have been great everyday for me.

[Mr Enternational]

I am in Parque 93, and walking around this morning I felt like I was in a post-apocalyptic sci fi movie where I was the last man alive.That is because today is a holiday. I always warn that Bogota will not give you a vacation feel. It is just a big, high-altitude, cold city. Good thing I stayed in Holiday Inn last night where they have heat (not to mention the nurse that was warming my body). Now I am off to an apartment hotel where I am not sure of the heat situation, but I need the washer and dryer that are in the apartment.

For me the main draw of Bogota is the non-pros, same reason I frequent Barranquilla. In Medellin the flake rate is off the charts. That is why I left there and came to Bogota 1 day early.