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My first time in Bogota I was still in halfway decent shape. The altitude didn't bother me until the day I tried walking up a slight hill. Damn near wiped me out.
My other 2 visits were after spending months in Medellin, losing quite a bit of weight and walking 5-10 miles every day. One day I walked nearly 30 miles and other than sore legs I felt great. That includes walking all the way from Parque Virrey to Unicentro mall and then back through Chapinero.
This time, with dealing with the Covid, there have been days when walking to the bathroom was an ordeal. I'm hoping tomorrow I'll get to at least do a bit of walking to test my recovery.Unlike Cuzco that hit me like a hummer so I was scared to go to bed since it felt like I might die in my sleep, However, next morning I felt great and full of energy. Bogota was sneaky. I didn't notice the altitude until I went uphill one block from my hotel, swam in a pool and fucked a girl. Walking on a flat terrain was perfectly fine. And it didn't let go for 5 days until I left.
I lasted 5 nights in Bogota before I decided it wasn't for me. Flying to Medellin tomorrow.
Other than the previously mentioned difficulty finding BBBJ and associated extras, it seems like the pandemic and economic issues have changed the mongering scene. Cassanova and Lidos have shut down or moved, the remaining clubs in Zona T area are terrible- Pussy House, La 49 are in decline, and as people have mentioned Santa Fe is not up to par. In general the streets seem empty- "for sale" and "for rent" signs are in about half the windows. I am in Parque 93, and walking around this morning I felt like I was in a post-apocalyptic sci fi movie where I was the last man alive. Add to that its cold and the thin air makes it hard to sleep- not sure why this is on anyone's list.
My buddy had a great experience 6 months ago with SA, but it seems even that has gone downhill. I think the main draw for Bogota at this point is for people who like quick, covered, cheap, impersonal sex in SF or the casas- which granted is still a draw. Other than that, there's no reason to be here. I doubt I will come back.
Zebra.Well, it's hard to be impressed with any SA city after Rio, but don't give up on Bogota yet. Yes, it's a big city (like NYC), but in normal times it has its moments. Come back when all this shit is over.
Thanks to the advice of Xpartan, I just received a certificate of recovery from Covid and will be heading home Thursday morning. The best part was, it's cheaper to have a doctor make a house call than it is to get a Covid test at home. 150 k for the doctor and she was hot.
The site I used for the doctor was.
https://controlmedic.co
You can handle everything through WhatsApp.Glad everything's worked out for you!
Currently otg, and having been all over Brazil, Colombia, and mexico this year, santa fe has the best sw talent as well as prince / quality in the Western Hemisphere. Maybe some of you guys arent peeking in all the doorways, side streets, etc? It's not like mde where they all stand there eying you down in a square block. Some are eating icecream, talking in groups, there isn't a better place for wam bam sw rn imo. Obviously there are slow days, during copa america itsempty and DIA festivosc but other than that it's almost 70% vennies out here and there is always somebody to fuck everyday 10-10 ime.
I guess it's a ymmv thing, the sessions have been great everyday for me.Yep, some days slow, but there are plenty of hot girls during the week-.
But of course Santa Fe is not for every man-.
To celebrate my release from quarantine this morning, I got out and did some walking, including a few laps around Santa Fe. For those of you who say Santa Fe is terrible, you're absolutely right. For those of you who say Santa Fe is awesome, you're also absolutely right. It's clearly an area where people are going to have strong opinions.
I started off my exercise by walking from my hotel to Portal Dorado, the closest Transmilenio station to the airport. It only took about 15 minutes and I was walking slow. Cost to buy a card for the Transmilenio was 6 k and each trip costs 2500. From Portal Dorado the L10 bus goes directly to Calle 22, takes about 15 minutes and Calle 22 station lets you out half a block from La Piscina. With today being a holiday it wasn't crowded at all.
I walked twice through the 4 blocks just west of La Piscina and walked a few blocks further north south and west. I wasn't planning an exhaustive survey of the area, I just wanted to form an opinion.
Although I was moving very slowly today (for 10 days, the furthest I walked was to the bathroom), I didn't seem to attract any attention. There were not too many people out, and not many girls out, but enough to get an idea. I felt quite safe and comfortable walking around. There was only one club open (about noon), with several touts out front. None of them were any bother.
I didn't see any girls who looked too young, but definitely some who looked too old. I did see two who would have been tempting, if I had more energy. There was a fair amount of eye candy as see-through clothes are more popular than in Medellin. As I've come to expect in Colombia, none of the girls were forward, just eye contact, smiles and a couple making that annoying clicking noise.
I imagine, later in the afternoon, when it's not a holiday, there should be something to satisfy anyone who prefers the street action.
From Santa Fe I hopped back on the Transmilenio to head to Chapinero. My only goal in Chapinero was lunch and taking some time to sit and rest. I ended up on a bus that didn't stop where I wanted, so I had to backtrack. No big deal, both buses were nearly empty. Walked to Centro Comercial Atlantis for some soup, juice and ice cream at Crepes and Waffles. Mainly I needed an excuse to sit and rest.
After lunch I decided all I could handle today was a massage. I'm sure there are some massage places in Bogota like the ones in Rio Sur, Medellin. I just have no idea where to find them. Instead I ended up at La Dulceria in Fontibon. If I hadn't been so exhausted by the time I got there, I would have continued on and found someplace else.
Girl came down when I rang the bell and told me I would have to wait a few minutes. A few turned out to be about 40 minutes. That helped some because by then I'd walked 6 miles and I needed to regain some energy. Finally 1 girl showed up, pretty good looking, nice body, probably about 30.
I chose the hour service, at the ridiculous price of 180 k. By that point, I decided my day was finished and after all the time I had already spent, I was at least going to find out how it was.
There really was no massage. She squirted a bunch of oil on my back, did a halfway body to body rub and that was it. There was a moment of levity when she asked if I wanted a prostate massage and I said yes, before my ears finished translating. "Yes. No. No. No. " From there about a minute or unenthusiastic CBJ, followed by cowgirl, that being the only position I had the energy for.
If she was in a casa charging 50 k or so for 30 minutes I would have been happy with the entire thing, but at that price, there's no way I'd ever return.
Called an Uber from there and returned to the hotel. Overall I'm happy with the day. Spent too much and got too little, but it felt good to be out doing some walking.
LatinaLover#1
07-06-21, 12:16
I lasted 5 nights in Bogota before I decided it wasn't for me. Flying to Medellin tomorrow.
Other than the previously mentioned difficulty finding BBBJ and associated extras, it seems like the pandemic and economic issues have changed the mongering scene. Cassanova and Lidos have shut down or moved, the remaining clubs in Zona T area are terrible- Pussy House, La 49 are in decline, and as people have mentioned Santa Fe is not up to par. In general the streets seem empty- "for sale" and "for rent" signs are in about half the windows. I am in Parque 93, and walking around this morning I felt like I was in a post-apocalyptic sci fi movie where I was the last man alive. Add to that its cold and the thin air makes it hard to sleep- not sure why this is on anyone's list.
My buddy had a great experience 6 months ago with SA, but it seems even that has gone downhill. I think the main draw for Bogota at this point is for people who like quick, covered, cheap, impersonal sex in SF or the casas- which granted is still a draw. Other than that, there's no reason to be here. I doubt I will come back.
Zebra.Sorry you had a bad trip to Bogota. I know Parque 93 area very well, my hotel for the last 9 years is around the corner. I think the fact that Monday was a holiday had a lot to do with the deserted scene you witnessed. I have not had any problem with BBBJ at all, in fact the only time a girl insisted on covered BJ was it the states years ago and I broomed her. That's why I hate sex in the states. As far as Bogota goes, I can't remember a time that I had a problem with BBBJ. I feel the same about SF, Pussyhouse etc. Not my scene. I did have a good experience in Juan Pablos years ago and still keep in touch with her. Lalos had hot women but the gringo prices were ridiculous and an insult.
No soy Papaya!
Is Santa fe SW back up and running like before pandemic or still kinda meh?
Currently otg, and having been all over Brazil, Colombia, and mexico this year, santa fe has the best sw talent as well as prince / quality in the Western Hemisphere. Maybe some of you guys arent peeking in all the doorways, side streets, etc? It's not like mde where they all stand there eying you down in a square block. Some are eating icecream, talking in groups, there isn't a better place for wam bam sw rn imo. Obviously there are slow days, during copa america itsempty and DIA festivosc but other than that it's almost 70% vennies out here and there is always somebody to fuck everyday 10-10 ime.
I guess it's a ymmv thing, the sessions have been great everyday for me.
Egy Monger New
07-06-21, 16:16
As far as Bogota goes, I can't remember a time that I had a problem with BBBJ.Any intel about ease of getting BBFS?
Member #4729
07-06-21, 19:11
Any intel about ease of getting BBFS?I'm going to differ with Latin lover here on BBBJ. This past weekend I visited many locations in Zona T, Chapinero, and Santa Fe and propositioned seven SW, only one would do BBBJ. This same girl did offer BBFS, but triple the price. So from my experience both of these are pretty difficult to find which is why I am about to board a flight to Medellin. It's ridiculous.
The area where La Dulceria casa is Teusaquillo, not Fontibon. The casa is at Carrera 21 #52-06. It's an orange building with a white door. Ring the buzzer. It shows up on Google Maps.
I had to go back there today because I left my jacket yesterday and I really like that jacket. There was a very cute girl who answered the door there today and the girl from yesterday was also there. If the price doesn't scare you off, it does look like there's some decent talent. I'd stick with 30 minutes, though and treat it like a casa instead of a massage parlor.
Since I was back in the area, I walked around some and had breakfast. The neighborhood has a nice feel to it. It's near National University of Colombia and had a college vibe. There are lots of restaurants that look tempting and seem to have good prices. For just hanging out, people watching, eating and drinking, I think it's an excellent choice. There are a few other massage, casa places in the area, although I'm not sure what's still open, or how the other places stack up.
Prelude141
07-06-21, 19:25
. As far as Bogota goes, I can't remember a time that I had a problem with BBBJ.Sorry but that can't be true or you have a very limited experiences and was lucky.
Sorry but that can't be true or you have a very limited experiences and was lucky.It can be true, but you need to consider where each person is pulling girls from. In Medellin I almost always get BBBJ, I never have paid extra for it, or had to negotiate for it. However, I mostly see low volume Facebook girls and often spend time either in the shower, or in the jacuzzi with the girls before getting down to business.
If I was only frequenting the casas and strip clubs, or picking up SWs, I'd rarely get BBBJ, because I'm unwilling to pay extra for it.
So if a guy is getting girls from clubs, casas or the streets in Bogota, they're probably having a tough time getting BBBJ. If they're finding more independent girls, who probably cost a bit more, but are lower volume, then they're probably not having any problem.
Well the last time I reviewed a nice restaurant, which I thoroughly enjoyed, I found out from several people, including some who had never been there, or hadn't been in a few years, that it's a horrible restaurant that nobody should ever visit. Let's try again.
Took the 2 girls who came from Medellin to visit me out to La Santa Guadalupe. It's located on Calle 109 just west of Carrera 15. It's a Mexican restaurant with nice decor. Prices are pretty high, close to 50 k average per entree. Price for 3 entrees, 4 drinks and an appetizer came to just over 300 k. Portion size is pretty large, there were plenty of leftovers.
They've got a pretty large menu with a wide variety of choices. Normally when a Colombiana says she likes spicy food that means it's okay to add a tiny bit of black pepper. However, one of the girls ordered some real tongue burner stuff and had no problem with it.
This was actually my second visit to the restaurant. 4 years ago I was staying right around the corner and had dinner there one night. I was happy enough with it to want to return again.
It's also just about 5 blocks away from the Mezzanine.
YMMV.
Before returning to the US, I ordered a Covid test on my last day through my hotel. It was very inconvenient. I reserved a block of time from 3 PM - 6 PM but the nurse didn't get to the hotel until after 9. I got my negative result emailed to me. Delta has a thing where you can upload your results but it didn't work for me and said I would need to show the gate agent. But I never had to. I never showed my Covid test to anybody. It seems that all you have to do is fill out that stupid attestation form when you check in for your flight.
Mr Enternational
07-07-21, 21:33
I went to my favorite testing lab, Cendiatra today. It is only 1 mile from where I am staying this time, so I decided to walk it. I arrived at 12. It was pretty crowded, but I was out of there at 12:46. She said I would receive my results in whatsapp and if I did not receive it within 2 hours then to call the number on the paper that she gave me. I said but last time I just waited outside and got the paper copy like those other people. She said those are people that are testing for their employer. Everybody else gets it through whatsapp. 90,000 pesos. I received my negative results at 1:04 while I was walking back to my spot.
MarquisdeSade1
07-07-21, 23:52
YMMV.
Before returning to the US, I ordered a Covid test on my last day through my hotel. It was very inconvenient. I reserved a block of time from 3 PM - 6 PM but the nurse didn't get to the hotel until after 9. I got my negative result emailed to me. Delta has a thing where you can upload your results but it didn't work for me and said I would need to show the gate agent. But I never had to. I never showed my Covid test to anybody. It seems that all you have to do is fill out that stupid attestation form when you check in for your flight.It was a pain in the ass, then when I get to the MDE aeropuerto and check in at Spirit nobody ever asked for it.
Nobody anywhere asked for Check Mig either.
LatinaLover#1
07-08-21, 01:01
Sorry but that can't be true or you have a very limited experiences and was lucky.I'm sorry if your trip didn't pan out so well but please don't shoot the messenger. Also, If you call 40 or 50 trips to Colombia, mostly to Bogotá and filling up 3 passports, one with added pages, with international stamps 'limited' I guess I was "lucky".
It may be because I rarely, if never go to SF or the casa's. I have been to mezzanine a few times in the last few years and always got BBBJ. If your MO is chasing the hard core pros, that sounds like the reason your getting hard core working girl service. I hope you have better experience on your next stop.
LatinaLover#1
07-08-21, 01:13
Well the last time I reviewed a nice restaurant, which I thoroughly enjoyed, I found out from several people, including some who had never been there, or hadn't been in a few years, that it's a horrible restaurant that nobody should ever visit. Let's try again.
Took the 2 girls who came from Medellin to visit me out to La Santa Guadalupe. It's located on Calle 109 just west of Carrera 15. It's a Mexican restaurant with nice decor. Prices are pretty high, close to 50 k average per entree. Price for 3 entrees, 4 drinks and an appetizer came to just over 300 k. Portion size is pretty large, there were plenty of leftovers.
They've got a pretty large menu with a wide variety of choices. Normally when a Colombiana says she likes spicy food that means it's okay to add a tiny bit of black pepper. However, one of the girls ordered some real tongue burner stuff and had no problem with it.
This was actually my second visit to the restaurant. 4 years ago I was staying right around the corner and had dinner there one night. I was happy enough with it to want to return again.
It's also just about 5 blocks away from the Mezzanine.I believe the restaurant your speaking of is next to Jacques Pastelería, one of my favorite spots, if so I'll be sure to check out the Mexican spot next month when I return to Bogotá. Thanks for the heads up.
Hi guys.
Like the title says, have any of you Canadians gents traveled from Toronto Pearson Intl via Air Canada direct to Bogota? I see Colombia has no restrictions for entry other than filling out the CheckMig form and installing the CoronApp. Returning to Canada, it looks like I need a PCR test taken less than 72 hours before my departure and to use the ArriveCan app to upload my information. I've got both my vaccinations and shot #2 will be in me almost 1 month before I leave, so I am fully mRNA vaccinated. I've got my paper receipts and also backed up digitally in various places, including my phone. Already installed the CoronApp for Colombia and the ArriveCan app for my return to Canada. I've not had Covid to my knowledge and I have never been tested.
My big question is are there any requirements to get on the Air Canada plane in Toronto? I'm a frequent traveler normally, but this is my 1st Covid trip, so I am nervous about what I don't know. I don't want some obscure thing screwing up my trip. My online research has produced mixed results, but nothing specific to Colombia.
I appreciate anyone sharing their experience so far. I plan on sitting on hold tomorrow while I wait to talk to Air Canada and get the rule (s) from them. Their website and chat bots were not helpful. I did search for "Canada" in the Bogota forum and the most recent post was February. A lot has changed since then.
I went to my favorite testing lab, Cendiatra today. It is only 1 mile from where I am staying this time, so I decided to walk it. I arrived at 12. It was pretty crowded, but I was out of there at 12:46. She said I would receive my results in whatsapp and if I did not receive it within 2 hours then to call the number on the paper that she gave me. I said but last time I just waited outside and got the paper copy like those other people. She said those are people that are testing for their employer. Everybody else gets it through whatsapp. 90,000 pesos. I received my negative results at 1:04 while I was walking back to my spot.Well, if you're flying out to Atlanta tomorrow we'll be on the same flight.
Guerinto, everything looks fine. You will need a negative PCR test to board.
I'm sorry if your trip didn't pan out so well but please don't shoot the messenger. Also, If you call 40 or 50 trips to Colombia, mostly to Bogot and filling up 3 passports, one with added pages, with international stamps 'limited' I guess I was "lucky".
It may be because I rarely, if never go to SF or the casa's. I have been to mezzanine a few times in the last few years and always got BBBJ. If your MO is chasing the hard core pros, that sounds like the reason your getting hard core working girl service. I hope you have better experience on your next stop.What you had experienced in the last few years is no longer relevant. Me and my wingman were both denied BBBJ at Mezzanine last week. Coincidence? I don't think so. The girl I sessioned with said CBJ is standard at Mezzanine and refused to accept extra tip for BBBJ. I had a date with SA girl a couple of days ago. Once we got to my apartment she refused to BBBJ. We argued for good 30 minutes before we finally settled on 70 mil COP extra for BBBJ. Never in my life I paid above the agreed on rate to SA girl and never in my life even had this issue. All of my prior SA dates provided BBBJ without me asking for it or paying extra.
LatinaLover#1
07-08-21, 08:23
What you had experienced in the last few years is no longer relevant. Me and my wingman were both denied BBBJ at Mezzanine last week. Coincidence? I don't think so. The girl I sessioned with said CBJ is standard at Mezzanine and refused to accept extra tip for BBBJ. I had a date with SA girl a couple of days ago. Once we got to my apartment she refused to BBBJ. We argued for good 30 minutes before we finally settled on 70 mil COP extra for BBBJ. Never in my life I paid above the agreed on rate to SA girl and never in my life even had this issue. All of my prior SA dates provided BBBJ without me asking for it or paying extra.That may be the current situation at Mezzanine, although I've been to Bogota 7 times in the last 9 months I have not been to mezzanine since pre-pandemic times and I always had good luck around back with the last 2 doors, not sure about the numbers I think 8 or 9, I don't remember but it's around back, the last two doors. I'.
I'm not real good with posting photos or how to get them from my cloud to here but her is one of my favorite for the last few years no condom for anything.
Prelude141
07-08-21, 12:13
That may be the current situation at Mezzanine, although I've been to Bogota 7 times in the last 9 months I have not been to mezzanine since pre-pandemic times and I always had good luck around back with the last 2 doors, not sure about the numbers I think 8 or 9, I don't remember but it's around back, the last two doors. I'.
I'm not real good with posting photos or how to get them from my cloud to here but her is one of my faavorite for the last few years no condom for anything.Yeah but you are talking about girls you've seen several times and even for years. As I said below, the standard service is by default CBJ in Colombia full stop. No need to argue, discuss or mention the number of stamps on your passport to justify yourself, this is what it is and it's common practice to embellish reality when talking on forums. The ways to change that is to pay an extra but no guarantee this will work, second option is visiting several times the same SP as you obviously do and girls treat you as a regular. Third option is to find a novia but, no thanks, that option is not for me.
I read that Atunes reopened on June 28 after being closed for 15 months. Does anyone here know how much it costs to buy a non-alcoholic drink there like water or orange juice?Not sure where you got that information, but Atunes has been open at least since mid-February. Went there probably 10 times from mid-Feb to April. Prices have definitely gone up. Beers are now 10 k. I can remember them being 3 k back in the day. For non-alcoholic don't remember much but seem to remember a Red Bull going for 20 k. I have a guy who's worked there for years. If you really need to know the prices for non-alcoholic drinks, let me know and I'll get in touch with him to find out.
That may be the current situation at Mezzanine, although I've been to Bogota 7 times in the last 9 months I have not been to mezzanine since pre-pandemic times and I always had good luck around back with the last 2 doors, not sure about the numbers I think 8 or 9, I don't remember but it's around back, the last two doors. I'.
I'm not real good with posting photos or how to get them from my cloud to here but her is one of my faavorite for the last few years no condom for anything.Yeah, the current situation is different. There is no good talent at Mezzanine now. Also, went to check out Abadubai Spa which was highly recommended here, but it is shut down and there is a "for rent" sign hanging.
Chicas Milenio was also highly recommended as the best brothel in terms of quality / selection and price, but I could not find it. I know they moved, so I went to their supposedly new address, but since there was no sign or visible security, I just could not find it (maybe it was closed too).
Going rates are up, gentlemen. I have been quoted 800 mil COP by SA girls (7. 5+) a few times, and they won't budge. Even those whom I have fucked for way less money before.
LatinaLover#1
07-08-21, 16:24
Yeah, the current situation is different. There is no good talent at Mezzanine now. Also, went to check out Abadubai Spa which was highly recommended here, but it is shut down and there is a "for rent" sign hanging.
Chicas Milenio was also highly recommended as the best brothel in terms of quality / selection and price, but I could not find it. I know they moved, so I went to their supposedly new address, but since there was no sign or visible security, I just could not find it (maybe it was closed too).
Going rates are up, gentlemen. I have been quoted 800 mil COP by SA girls (7. 5+) a few times, and they won't budge. Even those whom I have fucked for way less money before.I haven't experienced any of that but having a serious novia for the last 4 years I only get one or 2 opportunities per trip to see some old favorites and they remain at 200 cop plus taxi. 800 for a 7.5 That's insane. The most I ever got quoted was from a hot girl maybe an 8 on a good day was 400. We sat down with a wine to chat and I see she has 2 phones!! A really bad sign and she has been to Miami, another bad sign. 3 rules to never break. No women who have been to the states, has 2 phones and never pay up front!
Violate any of the 3 and you will be sorry. Sounds like Bogota is going the way of Medellin. TOO MANY GRINGOS fucking up the system. With all the for rent signs everywhere in Bogota and speaking to a lot of my amigas on whatsapp I still here story after story of no JOB no Money No food. Hard to justify anything over 300 for Sophia Vigarra jaja.
How do they work, for example if I wanted a girl to come over would I pay in advance or after the session?
LatinaLover#1
07-09-21, 14:59
Yeah but you are talking about girls you've seen several times and even for years. As I said below, the standard service is by default CBJ in Colombia full stop. No need to argue, discuss or mention the number of stamps on your passport to justify yourself, this is what it is and it's common practice to embellish reality when talking on forums. The ways to change that is to pay an extra but no guarantee this will work, second option is visiting several times the same SP as you obviously do and girls treat you as a regular. Third option is to find a novia but, no thanks, that option is not for me.I only mentioned my passport because you accused me of 'limited experience' and being 'lucky' jaja So I was just reminding you with over a hundred trips to Bogota, that I am neither of these. No need to call me out just because my experience is different from yours. If you only go to places like Pussy house and SF and see hard core prepagos, then I'm not surprised you only get CBJ. BTW, lay off the vailed accusations that I am embellishing or lying about anything. Not cool, and you should lay off the personal attacks. Have a good trip and I hope things pan out for you where ever you wind up. Peace.
For my last day in Bogota (post quarantine, pre flight) I played tourist. The first stop was Salto del Tequendama, a large waterfall about an hour drive from the airport. It's only about 30 miles, but you have to deal with Bogota traffic.
Other than the traffic, it's a pretty easy drive, only a short stretch of somewhat winding roads. There's a wide spot in the road with a couple of little makeshift restaurants at the only decent viewpoint. There's also another spot to pull over just a little bit further. You can't see the waterfall from there, but it's a really nice view of the valley.
Just don't look too closely at the water. It's nasty. At one point the road passes fairly close to the river and you'll want to have the windows rolled up. It's basically an open sewer.
Back in Bogota we went to Parque Mundo Aventura, a fairly small amusement park. The cost per person, for the unlimited day pass, is 59,900 COP, which includes lunch (no more than a 15 k value). Although we had a good time, it's not worth the price. There are a couple of halfway decent rides, but nothing you'll regret missing.
I did leave Bogota with a better impression. I might consider spending a few days there next time strictly for mongering.
Prelude141
07-10-21, 01:16
I only mentioned my passport because you accused me of 'limited experience' and being 'lucky' jaja So I was just reminding you with over a hundred trips to Bogota, that I am neither of these. No need to call me out just because my experience is different from yours. If you only go to places like Pussy house and SF and see hard core prepagos, then I'm not surprised you only get CBJ. BTW, lay off the vailed accusations that I am embellishing or lying about anything. Not cool, and you should lay off the personal attacks. Have a good trip and I hope things pan out for you where ever you wind up. Peace.P.S: watching YouTube video about Colombia does not count a trip to the country.
Have fun.
Thursday morning I headed to the airport (as always, too early) to catch my flight back to Atlanta. I just needed to show my passport and flight information to get into the airport. However, the person prechecking passengers before they approached the counter questioned me pretty extensively. Where did I stay? What places did I visit? What did I do at Guatape? What were some of the sights on the boat tour? What do I do for a living? What specific area do I work in?
After questioning I was able to approach the counter. There I had to show my certificate of recovery from Covid and my prior positive test results. Nobody at any point asked about the Check Migración form, which I had filled out.
At the gate I can as called up again and I was asked if they had checked my Covid test results at the ticket counter. I said yes and that was it.
Arriving in Atlanta I was first off and there were only a few people in front of me at the Customs line. I got held up a few minutes because the officer in my line was blatantly hitting hard on the woman in front of me. Some serious thirst going on there. He only spent a few minutes looking over my passport and asking some basic questions. Nothing like the interrogation I got from Delta. I was waiting in Baggage Claim about 8 minutes after I got off the plane.
Overall it was a good return flight, although the heat and humidity hit me hard after 2 weeks in Bogota.
One major difference this trip from last year, nobody was checking people for fever. Only place that checked was the restaurant at Parque Mundo Aventura. There were a few places where I was asked to sanitize my hands, but very few. Masks are still common, but not as universal as last year. I did see a cop in Medellin stop a girl and make her mask up.
I have been with ISG so long I don't remember when I started. After many years traveling to Europe I began traveling to SA. My first stop was Buenos Aires. Beautiful city and 12-14 years ago this was the hot spot in SA. This is a guess but I would say in 7-8 years I visited BA at least 30 times. I thought about moving there but no ocean was a draw back so I checked out Rio. Wow this was BA with an ocean. A few years later I checked BA out again and the ISG site was dead. It went from the most active ISG site to dead. I made a post asking what happened. From several senior members I got the same answer. Members would make a post and here would come the replies telling them how their post was stupid or how could their opinions be so ridiculous. They said this happened so frequently it was as though some members were just waiting for a post so they could reply with something nasty. Participation fell off and now it is what it is.
All the ISG sites in Colombia are great. Many members love to read it daily. I do. I don't travel as often as I once did but reading all the Colombia sites is a good way to keep me up on what's going on. If a member wants to post something critical or nasty about someone's post I would suggest you post it on one of the Bangladesh sites, they love that trash talk.
Just my opinion.
Hey All,
Will be in Bogota at the end of next week.
But its my first time and my Spanish skills are very very limited.
But maybe you can help me, how to ask the right questions.
What are the correct translations for these questions.
1. The price is for short time or long time?
2. Which service is included?
3. Is BBBJ possible?
4. What is the price for the hotel?
Then how are the prices for the short time hotels? 1 HR /2 HR?
How much to pay for the room or the service guy of the clubs / casas (just Santa Fe)?
What prices are rip off?
Some places in Santa Fe (Hotels / Club) to definitely stand away from?
For my last day in Bogota (post quarantine, pre flight) I played tourist. The first stop was Salto del Tequendama, a large waterfall about an hour drive from the airport. It's only about 30 miles, but you have to deal with Bogota traffic.
Other than the traffic, it's a pretty easy drive, only a short stretch of somewhat winding roads. There's a wide spot in the road with a couple of little makeshift restaurants at the only decent viewpoint. There's also another spot to pull over just a little bit further. You can't see the waterfall from there, but it's a really nice view of the valley.
Just don't look too closely at the water. It's nasty. At one point the road passes fairly close to the river and you'll want to have the windows rolled up. It's basically an open sewer.
Back in Bogota we went to Parque Mundo Aventura, a fairly small amusement park. The cost per person, for the unlimited day pass, is 59,900 COP, which includes lunch (no more than a 15 k value). Although we had a good time, it's not worth the price. There are a couple of halfway decent rides, but nothing you'll regret missing.
I did leave Bogota with a better impression. I might consider spending a few days there next time strictly for mongering.I'm not sure why you went to that waterfall. Every Youtube video and Google search tells you that waterfall is actually a waterfall of runoff and sewage from the city.
Showdown.
Prelude141
07-11-21, 18:08
I have been with ISG so long I don't remember when I started. After many years traveling to Europe I began traveling to SA. My first stop was Buenos Aires. Beautiful city and 12-14 years ago this was the hot spot in SA. This is a guess but I would say in 7-8 years I visited BA at least 30 times. I thought about moving there but no ocean was a draw back so I checked out Rio. Wow this was BA with an ocean. A few years later I checked BA out again and the ISG site was dead. It went from the most active ISG site to dead. I made a post asking what happened. From several senior members I got the same answer. Members would make a post and here would come the replies telling them how their post was stupid or how could their opinions be so ridiculous. They said this happened so frequently it was as though some members were just waiting for a post so they could reply with something nasty. Participation fell off and now it is what it is.
All the ISG sites in Colombia are great. Many members love to read it daily. I do. I don't travel as often as I once did but reading all the Colombia sites is a good way to keep me up on what's going on. If a member wants to post something critical or nasty about someone's post I would suggest you post it on one of the Bangladesh sites, they love that trash talk.
Just my opinion.I enjoy reading the threads as well and am usually a silent reader. Usually not posting much. However.
I know Colombia very well and I had to jump on misinformation which in my opinion ruins the forums, not than almost every confirmed that what has been said is misinformation.
I think the Argentinian thread stopped to attract people because of the cleaning by authorities of brothels' and clubs making the hobby less easy.
Just arrived in Bogota on Thursday. I went Flirt that night. The provider spoke excellent English and said she was recruited to an American escort service and will work in the States starting August. On Friday I went to Lido. The club sucks monkey balls (stark white walls) but there was a Paisa who caught my attention. I was surprised she moved to Bogota for sex work, but she said this is where the money is. That girls like her (I. E Paisa, fake boobs) can charge 600+. Haven't visited Santa Fe area yet. If someone wants to join me tonight or Tuesday, let me know.
Hello, mi planing visit Colombia for first time in my life, beguining August, as I never was there mi a bit concerned about dangerous there, I have been to Brazil, I guess is similiar in terms of danger, but I would be happy, if you can give me some nice info about Bogota.
1 – what side in the city is good for a foreign tourist, just looking safety and shops restaurants around, not looking for street hookers, don't like this.
2 – is really as dangerous the city in terms of robbing with weapons, kidnappings and using of burundanga and other drugs?
Thanks to everyone who can advice me.
Thursday morning I headed to the airport (as always, too early) to catch my flight back to Atlanta. I just needed to show my passport and flight information to get into the airport. However, the person prechecking passengers before they approached the counter questioned me pretty extensively. Where did I stay? What places did I visit? What did I do at Guatape? What were some of the sights on the boat tour? What do I do for a living? What specific area do I work in?
After questioning I was able to approach the counter. There I had to show my certificate of recovery from Covid and my prior positive test results. Nobody at any point asked about the Check Migracin form, which I had filled out..I don't understand that, if you are leaving the country, what the fuck cares this person what you did and what you visited?
So I booked my room for 2 adults. I had one prepago visit on Friday. The receptionist said that since I've had one guest already no more can visit my room. I asked about the guest fee. He said I reached my limit. I tried to pay the fee early before the ladies arrived. Is he bullshitting me? Please respond quickly. I have two chicas coming at 7:30 pm.
Mr Enternational
07-12-21, 01:47
So I booked my room for 2 adults. I had one prepago visit on Friday. The receptionist said that since I've had one guest already no more can visit my room. I asked about the guest fee. He said I reached my limit. I tried to pay the fee early before the ladies arrived. Is he bullshitting me? Please respond quickly. I have two chicas coming at 7:30 pm.Welcome to Colombia! No more of that bullshit for me. Last week I found a great apartment in Zona Rosa. Inside is brand new. No doorman. $37/day. This has been a long time coming.
LatinaLover#1
07-12-21, 02:01
So I booked my room for 2 adults. I had one prepago visit on Friday. The receptionist said that since I've had one guest already no more can visit my room. I asked about the guest fee. He said I reached my limit. I tried to pay the fee early before the ladies arrived. Is he bullshitting me? Please respond quickly. I have two chicas coming at 7:30 pm.Lots of prepagos haters limit you to one guest on the registration and only that guest can be admitted, tats how they limit you from bringing a bunch of different women. Make a left of of the Click Clack go 2 blocks north to Lloyds Apartasuites. $50 us a night and never a question of who visits you. I stay here exclusively for the last 8 years, PM me if you need more info.
I'm not sure why you went to that waterfall. Every Youtube video and Google search tells you that waterfall is actually a waterfall of runoff and sewage from the city.
Showdown.I'm not sure why anyone watches YouTube videos about Bogota or Colombia. Fortunately, nobody is required to explain why they do things to me.
However, I'll clear it up for you. I didn't go to swim in the water, or to drink it. I went because it's quite a scenic area and it was on my list of places I wanted to photograph. I also had 2 girls with me, both of whom really enjoyed the trip.
For future reference, could you send me a list of things I'm allowed to do and places I'm allowed to visit? That way I don't have to request your approval every day.
...I know Colombia very well and I had to jump on misinformation which in my opinion ruins the forums, not than almost every confirmed that what has been said is misinformation....Are you sure about this?
... the standard service is by default CBJ in Colombia full stop. No need to argue, discuss or mention the number of stamps on your passport to justify yourself,...
LatinaLover#1
07-12-21, 13:01
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Elvis 2008
07-12-21, 14:07
Hello, mi planing visit Colombia for first time in my life, beguining August, as I never was there mi a bit concerned about dangerous there, I have been to Brazil, I guess is similiar in terms of danger, but I would be happy, if you can give me some nice info about Bogota.
1 what side in the city is good for a foreign tourist, just looking safety and shops restaurants around, not looking for street hookers, don't like this.Ringudor, go to the forum where you have links to distinction and read Routard's excellent report on Bogota. In general, the nicest part is Chapinero / Parque 93 region. The highest end part of Bogota where my chicas and I always wind up at is the Andino shopping mall region.
2 is really as dangerous the city in terms of robbing with weapons, kidnappings and using of burundanga and other drugs?If I go by the people who live there, they walk around pretty freely in the safer regions. I have talked to people who lived there and had their beers drugged with scopalamine and who have their phones stolen by guys on motorcycles. I have seen guys freely snort cocaine or smoke pot in clubs (I kind of like that. It means freedom to me) but I think that misses the point. For the most part, I have found Colombians to be very nice and friendly. In short, I think the danger factor is exaggerated. There is crime but I am not sure it is that much worse than some American cities.
Lots of prepagos haters limit you to one guest on the regestration and only that guest can be admitted, tats how they limit you from bringing a bunch of different women. Make a left of of the Click Clack go 2 blocks north to Lloyds Apartasuites. $50 us a night and never a question of who visits you. I stay here exclusively for the last 8 years, PM me if you need more info.So the two girls were denied entry last night. We went to a by-the-hour place nearby. I have another girl coming today. I told her to meet me in the downstair's restaurant and we can take the elevator from there bypassing the receptionist. Thanks for the suggestion. If I'm denied again, I'll look into the apartment suite.
For future reference, could you send me a list of things I'm allowed to do and places I'm allowed to visit? That way I don't have to request your approval every day.Lmao 🤪🤣 Had me cracking up!
Lots of prepagos haters limit you to one guest on the registration and only that guest can be admitted, tats how they limit you from bringing a bunch of different women. Make a left of of the Click Clack go 2 blocks north to Lloyds Apartasuites. $50 us a night and never a question of who visits you. I stay here exclusively for the last 8 years, PM me if you need more info.FYI. This is the message I received when I booked the hotel.
DandyMan51
07-12-21, 22:05
I booked an AirBnB in this building when I visited and they seemed to have no problem with bringing girls over. I didn't bring any into my apartment but my neighbor brought a number of girls over. The building has some incredible views. Security doesn't seem to really care about who comes in because you need a card key to get into the reception and to get into the elevator. As long as you escort her in, I don't think they will have a problem. A lot of gay tourists were also bringing guys they met to their apartments too without much problem.
I'm not sure why anyone watches YouTube videos about Bogota or Colombia. Fortunately, nobody is required to explain why they do things to me.
However, I'll clear it up for you. I didn't go to swim in the water, or to drink it. I went because it's quite a scenic area and it was on my list of places I wanted to photograph. I also had 2 girls with me, both of whom really enjoyed the trip.
For future reference, could you send me a list of things I'm allowed to do and places I'm allowed to visit? That way I don't have to request your approval every day.No need to be negative or speak that way. I was making a light hearted matter of fact statement.
Showdown.
No need to be negative or speak that way. I was making a light hearted matter of fact statement.
Showdown.Pardon me. As you may be aware I just recently recovered from Covid. Besides all the other symptoms, I briefly lost my sense of smell and my sarcasm glands were all plugged up. I'm much better now.
No offense taken, but you do need to work on your light hearted responses. When you say "I don't understand why you did that", about something someone has already done, it comes screen as a challenge.
A light hearted response might have been something like "I heard it was a shitty place."
Now if someone posts that they met a Colombian in Dubai and she agreed to spend 2 weeks with him in Colombia for $500 per day and round trip airfare from Dubai, that's the time to question why they would do that. The girl in Dubai has 30 cousins who will happily fuck for $40-$50. Besides, it's probably cheaper to fuck her in Dubai.
MarquisdeSade1
07-14-21, 19:45
I wanted to check out Montserrat so one day I look out my hotel window and it looked like a nice day for it, I jump into a taxi, and he doesn't speak a word of English of course.
There are protests everywhere so what should be a short ride turns into a 30 minute detour, no problem, we have a set price.
We pull up and he's pointing to some stairs? I'm like WTF I read about people using the taxi for this visit, I just assumed the taxi drove to the top.
Nope he's pointing to the stairs and wouldn't you know it starts raining, well at least I brought my umbrella.
So I start heading up, I'm a stubborn monger, so I'm like no problem, about 30 mins in, I ask some 20 something chico and 4 chicas coming down the stairs how much further, and good news they speak English.
Bad news, hes a preacher (I'm guessing banging all 4 of the chicas).
They tell me its quite a ways ahead, but God will help me make it. They ask if they can pray for me, and pray for over 30 minutes non stop.
I wanted to tell them I'm a life long atheist, but I was concerned that would delay me even further, we exchanged whatsapp, but.
I couldn't wait to get away from them, I have no use for these types of people.
Pro tip (aka learn from my fuckups) #! (so if you don't want to be delayed be careful who you speak to).
Its a long climb very steep, not really any handrails to prevent falling, and crazy ass doods running top speed up and down in the rain, they must have special grip shoes.
Warning! Its pretty slippery.
Finally I get near the top and I see some cables for the tram I didn't know they had WTF?
Then suddenly I slip and fell on my ass, not so bad but it could get dangerous.
They have small gutters running down each side of the path for rain and green algae grows on the walking surface if you get too close, it could be a visit to the ER.
In any case as soon as I get to the top and it starts pouring like mad, so I decided fuck this and took the trolley down.
In another event I asked Mr E about taking the bus to MDE from BOG a few months back, he said don't do it, so I said fuck it, I'll fly.
I wanted to see the landscape, but no problem.
Well with some very very last minute change in plans, I found myself checking out of my hotel and taking an Uber to the bus station.
I took an 8 pm bus, it had the aircon cranked and was really really freezing and I like it cool, by the time we started descending the mountains it warmed up outside and fogged the black tinted windows completely.
It was a hellish 10 HR ride, we didn't get off the bus 1 x, they just keep driving winding and turning and braking, like being on a 10 HR gyroscope from hell.
I've never had motion sickness in almost 54 yrs of age, but I wanted to vomit the whole time, going to the toilet in the complete dark was, risking your life.
I tried to wipe the steam off the windows and see outside, it was dark but once or twice I could tell the bus was passing a truck in the dark on a curvy road.
2 lane road with trucks in oncoming traffic, it seemed very very unsafe, they closed the door at the front of the bus when we left BOG and kept it closed until MDE.
I just remember people blasting music all night blasting youtube crap etc people yapping on fones, it was fucking horrible.
Pro tip #2 (learn from my fuck ups) don't take the bus to MDE from BOG.
I wanted to check out Montserrat so one day I look out my hotel window and it looked like a nice day for it, I jump into a taxi, and he doesn't speak a word of English of course.
There are protests everywhere so what should be a short ride turns into a 30 minute detour, no problem, we have a set price.
We pull up and he's pointing to some stairs? I'm like WTF I read about people using the taxi for this visit, I just assumed the taxi drove to the top.
Nope he's pointing to the stairs and wouldn't you know it starts raining, well at least I brought my umbrella.
So I start heading up, I'm a stubborn monger, so I'm like no problem, about 30 mins in, I ask some 20 something chico and 4 chicas coming down the stairs how much further, and good news they speak English.
Bad news, hes a preacher (I'm guessing banging all 4 of the chicas).
They tell me its quite a ways ahead, but God will help me make it. They ask if they can pray for me, and pray for over 30 minutes non stop.
I wanted to tell them I'm a life long atheist, but I was concerned that would delay me even further, we exchanged whatsapp, but...I shouldn't laugh, but this is some funny stuff.
The trail to the top of Monserrat is considered a pilgrimage. It's for the devout to prove their faith and purify themselves. For the godless heathens there's the funicular or the team, although the tram wasn't running when I visited. I think it cost 12 k, but that was 6 years ago.
Having just driven Bogota to Medellin and back I can sympathize with anyone who takes the bus. Yes the road is steep and winding and there's a lot of passing on blind corners.
I mostly enjoyed the drive, but I'd hate to take the trip as a passenger.
Traveling Dom
07-16-21, 13:41
What are some nice places with good looking women that serves beers? Not looking for Gringo taxation on the drinks or the women.
Traveling Dom
07-16-21, 20:00
Hello friends,
I am new to this forum thread but have been posting in the Rio thread for a while as I have spent the last seven weeks there and just arrived in Bogota a few days ago. Anyone making the trip directly to Colombia to Brazil should be aware that you need proof of a current yellow fever vaccination. Since I did not have this, I had to get vaccinated in Rio, and then go to Anvisa in the GIG airport to receive the official document required by airlines.
I had visited Bogota immediately before the pandemic started, albeit briefly, so was curious to see how things have changed. The first night after I get some sleep, I started in Chapinero, where I checked out Las Divas, Pussy House, and Club Fortynine. Pussy House and Las Divas have really gone down hill- at this point its just basically a bunch of local dudes watching soccer games with a few tired working girls lounging around. The girls were average and below average- and at Pussy House especially, the vibe was really strange with obnoxious music, aggressive crew, and was just overall uncomfortable. Beers were 10 mil I believe. I had remembered a club that was more enticing and seductive. Over at Club Fortynine things seemed to be in partial disrepair and the club was generally shabby compared to the photos on the internet. However, the ratio was much better with perhaps 10-12 SW lounging around. I grabbed an overpriced beer (20 mil) and approached the most attractive girl, a little 20 year old spinner w braces and big tits-there who quoted me 150 mil, but said that BBBJ was not allowed- not even if I met her outside of the club..Every woman I have met in Bogota has allowed BBBJ except those on the streets in SF. And if I'm not mistaken, every woman I've met here would have also allowed BBFS not even for anything extra. I guess its all on their perception of you. I did go to Zona T once on was taken to I believe it was Blue room which does look kind of nice and was full of women. All of them were hawk eying me. But after seeing the drink prices, I decided to grab one as a courtesy and get the fuck out of there. I don't mind many chicks but I can imagine how hungry everyone is with so many bodies, and you're probably the only or of the few men who has come in all day. This was a Friday or Saturday night and although some looked to me as genuine interest I just seen big dollar. No GBP signs everywhere I looked so figured it was best to just go after a short time.
I still have yet to go to mezzanine and would like to take the trip one day soon.
World Travel 69
07-16-21, 20:06
You did not say anything about sex, so The North has nice beer places.
But, you can find sex in the area also.
So try this area. Zona Rosa (Zona T) El Retiro.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1Y7d556oDwhh_X83ZCec7ItKPaXQ&ll=4.701386779567766%2C-74.04620404999997&z=13
What are some nice places with good looking women that serves beers?
Not looking for Gringo taxation on the drinks or the women.
World Travel 69
07-19-21, 17:07
Curfew.
I heard that all of Colombia will have Curfew starting tonight.
The latest this morning from Jesus: "Hello, good morning, today.
Monday everything is normal, there are many police in the streets.
Many cities on alert, tomorrow there will be marches and protests.
There is a curfew and alcohol consumption is prohibited. ".
Contact Jesus, he will let you know what's going on, our man in the streets.
He is in Cali, WhatsApp: 57-323-586-6627.
Prelude141
07-19-21, 19:43
Curfew.
I heard that all of Colombia will have Curfew starting tonight.
The latest this morning from Jesus: "Hello, good morning, today.
Monday everything is normal, there are many police in the streets.
Many cities on alert, tomorrow there will be marches and protests.
There is a curfew and alcohol consumption is prohibited. ".
Contact Jesus, he will let you know what's going on, our man in the streets.I'm sure you and Jesus are a very reliable source of information however, screening the official usual website of government and various media, I have not find any echo to a curfew starting soon or even today. My contacts living in Bogota are not aware of such situation. Would you have a formal source of information to which people can refer and deep dive?
I heard that all of Colombia will have Curfew starting tonight..I think the curfew and alcohol prohibition are just for el Valle del Cauca (the department whose capital is Cali) and Popayan rather than all of Colombia. See https://cnnespanol.cnn.com/2021/07/19/paro-nacional-colombia-medidas-ley-seca-toque-queda-orix/.
MarquisdeSade1
07-20-21, 05:00
I have sweet chica that has a bday soon and I wanted to do something, but she lacks a govt ID most decent hotels will accept.
I was thinking of just renting a hotel room with a pool for a few days (4-5) for us? Either indoor or outdoor? And I suggested inviting a few friends and family over for a small gathering at the pool.
Is this possible in Bog?
I'm guessing its possible in CTG or MDE, but I looked on booking.com for BOG and don't see sheet.
BTW I'm not looking for any crazy expensive resorts.
Bango Cheito
07-20-21, 05:47
I'm sure you and Jesus are a very reliable source of information however, screening the official usual website of government and various media, I have not find any echo to a curfew starting soon or even today. My contacts living in Bogota are not aware of such situation. Would you have a formal source of information to which people can refer and deep dive?There is no curfew whatsoever here at this time.
World Travel 69
07-20-21, 17:10
Jesus Reports:
Bogot is on high alert, I mean the police and the army.
The authorities are in the congress including the "most excellent" president as
Helicopters fly over the main cities.
The Congress is the place of the transmission of an annual summary of what was done by this "magnificent" government.
Mr Enternational
07-20-21, 21:01
There is no curfew whatsoever here at this time.The curfew I read about was for like tanker trucks and shit. It is in the article that Trim posted.
En el departamento de Cundinamarca se expidió un decreto que regirá desde el 19 de julio a las 6 am hasta el 21 de julio de 2021.
Restricción de movilidad a vehículos que distribuyen gas propano.
Restricción de movilidad a vehículos que movilizan escombros y materiales de construcción.
Restricción de motocicletas con "parrilleros" (o acompañante)
Ley seca en establecimientos abiertos y en espacios públicos.
The curfew I read about was for like tanker trucks and shit. It is in the article that Trim posted.There is a mobility restriction (restriction de movilidad) for certain kinds of vehicles in Cundinamarca, but if you read a bit further in the article, you'll see that there are also curfews (toques de queda) in Popayan and el Valle del Cauca. The mobility restriction for vehicles and the curfews are scheduled to end tomorrow, July 21, according to the article.
Hi guys.
Like the title says, have any of you Canadians gents traveled from Toronto Pearson Intl via Air Canada direct to Bogota? I see Colombia has no restrictions for entry other than filling out the CheckMig form and installing the CoronApp. Returning to Canada, it looks like I need a PCR test taken less than 72 hours before my departure and to use the ArriveCan app to upload my information. I've got both my vaccinations and shot #2 will be in me almost 1 month before I leave, so I am fully mRNA vaccinated. I've got my paper receipts and also backed up digitally in various places, including my phone. Already installed the CoronApp for Colombia and the ArriveCan app for my return to Canada. I've not had Covid to my knowledge and I have never been tested.
My big question is are there any requirements to get on the Air Canada plane in Toronto? I'm a frequent traveler normally, but this is my 1st Covid trip, so I am nervous about what I don't know. I don't want some obscure thing screwing up my trip. My online research has produced mixed results, but nothing specific to Colombia.
I appreciate anyone sharing their experience so far. I plan on sitting on hold tomorrow while I wait to talk to Air Canada and get the rule (s) from them. Their website and chat bots were not helpful. I did search for "Canada" in the Bogota forum and the most recent post was February. A lot has changed since then.If you go to Bogota from Toronto, please make a post on your return. Thanks.
JohnnyWalker55
07-23-21, 23:31
Jesus Reports:
Bogot is on high alert, I mean the police and the army.
The authorities are in the congress including the "most excellent" president as
Helicopters fly over the main cities.
The Congress is the place of the transmission of an annual summary of what was done by this "magnificent" government.I just left santa fe for a quick 2 day work trip and it's completely normal there. Jesus is probably watching govt news and getting scared, like a lot of colombians do when the marches happen, they stay inside. Bogota is completely fine, just a bunch of leftists and college kids marching down carr 9 and la 7 every once in a while. Jesus is cool but he almost made me cancel my Cali trip with his updates, I ended up going and had the time of my life, even during the first paro, i posted a report in that thread
Every body has a diff risk tolerance I suppose, but for mongers it's totally live and normal. nobody follows the curfew or really gives a shit about the happenings in centro, life goes on
I just left santa fe for a quick 2 day work trip and it's completely normal there. Jesus is probably watching govt news and getting scared, like a lot of colombians do when the marches happen, they stay inside. Bogota is completely fine, just a bunch of leftists and college kids marching down carr 9 and la 7 every once in a while. Jesus is cool but he almost made me cancel my Cali trip with his updates, I ended up going and had the time of my life, even during the first paro, i posted a report in that thread
Every body has a diff risk tolerance I suppose, but for mongers it's totally live and normal. nobody follows the curfew or really gives a shit about the happenings in centro, life goes onCivil UnRest Dang-er Danger-- LOL, who knew? I have not noticed a thing.
On another note, I showed guys around SF Monday and Friday last week. Good Times-- I have to write more later. Went last night Off the Hook.
If you go to Bogota from Toronto, please make a post on your return. Thanks.Getting out of Toronto is relatively easy. You would only have to supply whatever information Colombia requires.
Getting back in is a nightmare. The arrivecan app gets used once. Someone checks it is valid. But you fill out information about 5 times. Immigration, screening, Covid testing, etc. Etc. Don't know why they can't use the same information at each step. Say from the ArriveCan app. But they don't. May help if you also download the Corona testing app. Don't know what it is called, but filling it out as you stand in line really sucks.
And then, as a fully vaccinated person coming back you would think they might let you know what you need to do or don't need to do. But after an hour of filling out forms, being interviewed, setting up apps, getting tested. You walk out in a daze without a real clue what you can or cannot do. And the only good thing is that they don't usher you to a quarantine hotel. I had to research what was expected after I got home. Basically they treat everyone as if they are subject to full quarantine, and let you figure it out if you aren't.
I have sweet chica that has a bday soon and I wanted to do something, but she lacks a govt ID most decent hotels will accept.
I was thinking of just renting a hotel room with a pool for a few days (4-5) for us? Either indoor or outdoor? And I suggested inviting a few friends and family over for a small gathering at the pool.
Is this possible in Bog?
I'm guessing its possible in CTG or MDE, but I looked on booking.com for BOG and don't see sheet.
BTW I'm not looking for any crazy expensive resorts.If you're both in Bogota, perhaps Melgar or Girardot? It's been ages, but did something similar with an ex-GF and friends years ago. Think it was about a 2 hour bus ride from BOG. We just rented a house that we had to ourselves that had a pool. No reception or anything like that. If I'm not mistaken, Melgar is called the swimming pool capital of Colombia they're so common.
If you go to Bogota from Toronto, please make a post on your return. Thanks.I'll report on my experience. I researched what I need to do, but I fully expect incompetence. Based on Zeos1's post, it seems like a shitshow. Hopefully then will be more organized when I travel in August.
Alright boys here we go. I arrived in Bogo on June 25 took a 2 am flight out of NY got there 7 am. MY airbnb host was super chill let me in at that hour. Really great place right on 32 and Caracass. Walking distance to SF if you feel ok doing that. I had already lined up some chicas via photosprepagos, Tinder and SA so I had a list. I was very successful with Tinder on this trip. I had one who was at the the top, a Venezuelan Q T who I just wanted to be with when I saw her pics on photos. She was working out of Hotel Laureles in Restrepo. I had messaged her several times but she paid me little mind so I was surprised how affectionate and adoring she was when we met. I was actually caught off guard. I'm not usually too comfortable in these short time hotels but this place was ok. We had an amazing session. She immediately dropped my draws and took me in her mouth raw and deep. It was dope. Total GFE and she kept hugging me saying how cute I was and how much she liked me. We had a great session. I took her doggie, cowgirl, mish. Sorry not great with these details. Anyway, my strategy is don't blow. Don't spooj. Don't drop the seed on the first session. I'm 47 and this ain't the same as when I was 25 when I could spooj 4 x a day. So I didn't. There is always the monger's dilemma: do I invest more time with a chica like this who shows you a great time or do you monger? Well I made her an offer to hang with me and be my girl for this trip. I would have been content with that, but these chics want their cake and eat it too. Can't blame them. We couldn't come to a deal so we settled on meeting the next day for 3 hours 300 k. That night I met an SA girl I had met months ago. She had a really cute face but was a bit overweight. She came to my apt and we talked for a while. I'm sure I could have hit it, but I don't know I just wasn't feeling it. She was cute and looking back maybe I should have. I sent her home in a taxi and hit Santa Fe and walked all around to all the different clubs. Seemed quite dead for a Friday night. And it was cold too. I know from some of your posts you guys are like me. You like to talk to the girls and feel their vibe. ID rather find someone who is sweet and affectionate. They are out there. So after a few hours of bouncing around the clubs and streets I wasn't feeling anyone and I had had eaten well earlier so I wasn't terribly disappointed with the dead scene. I was about to leave when I found this really cute young and dare I say innocent looking Venezuelan Q T. I couldn't resist. She was so young and innocent looking. I session with her for 30 mil and really made little attempt to bang her. I can never get comfortable in SF short times or the upstairs of clubs. I just wanted to get a better feel for her vibe. She was sweet and a bit timid. We touched and caressed each other and bc it was late and I felt she had a sweet vibe I told her to come back to my place for an hour. She agreed for 130 mil. Ok a bit high but it was late and I figured what the hell. We went back to my place and we had a really nice session. I brought a heater down with me and she loved it. My little partner wasn't very cooperative bc she was a bit timid but we whatever she was affectionate and we hugged and kissed for an hour. It was sweet and I'm alright with that. She got a text to meet her sister for another gig and she bounced. I took her whatsapp but never saw her again. Alright. Back to the first Venezuelan girl. We did meet the next day. And it was well worth it. She walked into my airbnb gave me a deep DFK and immediately pulled down my shorts and took me in her mouth raw. Unbelievable. Anyway, we had an amazing three hours. I couldn't believe how affectionate this chic was with me. Sorry to disappoint, I'm not going to go into the details but let's just say full GFE. She would BBBJ a little, We would bang a little, rest a little, hug a little, kiss a little, bang a little repeat. As I said, I don't release, so I am able to go for a while. If I were to drop my load, ID be done for. Out of business. Eventually I did of course after the three hours of amazing action. And actually I feel that it was a mistake. My experience with Ayurveda and other eastern systems of medicine is that your immunity is tied to your ojas aka your seed retention. In addition to keeping me strong for my next session, it might have kept me strong against the Rona. But I digress. Next session was that night with a Tinder girl. She was asking 200 k for three hours. Well I thought it was kind of high but something told me go for it. And I wasn't disappointed. She was a 23 your old QT. Hot, tight body. Really sweet and charming. We actually had quite a stimulating convo before moving into the bedroom. She was quite adept at BBBJ and stimulating the gonads. Again I didn't want to spooj but this little girl had skills. I couldn't resist. I asked her if I could bust in her mouth and she agreed. Nothing better than that. So I let it go. Phenomenal. Next day I woke up a bit inflamed in my joints and wanted to get a good massage. I bring down high quality massage oils and wanted to get a rub down. I mentioned that I was looking for a good massage to this Venezuelan girl I was chatting with on Tinder and she said she does massage. I actually wasn't looking for sex, I was looking for a massage and I made that clear. She came over and gave me a great massage. She was very good. But I did hear her coughing and she seemed to be coming over a cold, so I suspect she got me sick, but honestly who knows. I do know its really contagious and can get you fast within less than a day. But I didn't really pay it much mind. She was cool and I invited her to lunch. After lunch we walked around La Candelaria which seems to be pretty happening on Sundays. We had a few drinks and a nice afternoon. We agreed for her to come back and spend the night for 100 k. So we went back to her place and got all her things. She rented a room from strangers, so I think she was glad to hang with me in my place. She brought a joint back with her and we took a walk and smoked it. Big mistake. I should have known better. We actually didn't have sex that night. We both got pretty stoned and passed out when we hit the bed. When I woke up, I knew I was in trouble. I had that feeling in my chest I've felt a thousand times when I start to get sick. And not the first time it happens after I smoke week. I get a pretty bad flu or upper respiratory at least once a year, more so when I smoked more often, which I rarely do these days. And I know how it starts. Its not the first time I felt that. Its not uncommon for me I had brought down a pound of vitamin see, elderberry, zinc and Vit d. I have been successful with this warding it off but not this time. I didn't think it would be Rona.
So. I started getting sick. As I stated in my last post, I get this same upper respiratory thing all the time, so I didn't suspect the Rona at first. I spent Monday pretty normal. I was actually looking at a house I was interested in buying from my cousins, but I had that familiar tightness in my chest all day. I took down a pound of vitamin C, Vitamin D, Elderberry extract and I can usually ward off this illness with these. I still had the Venezuelan girl from Tinder who gave the great massage waiting for me after I finished my house hunting. Same deal 100 k a day. Pretty sweet deal. But by Monday night I was starting to feel really tired. Now granted I was feeling a little something coming on but I also had not slept in days. I took the red eye, I landed and never really rested, so I figured I was just tired. I wasnt in a position for any action with this hottie by my side, so we just cuddled and I passed out. Tuesday I slept all day. She cleaned and sanitized the apartment got us some food. Actually even though I had zero energy, I appreciated her company as I was in bed all day. We just hung out at the apartment. At this point still didn't even really think about covid, but I knew I was not feeling well. Wednesday was pretty much the same just laid around the house with her. By Thursday I thought I was feeling a little better and I had just finished chatting with another ISG buddy about how this chick was staying with me for 100 k a day and how cool it was even though I didn't have the energy to bang her and as I end the chat she tells me she wants more money. She's turning down other opportunities. Since I had a date with another Tinder hottie, I said NEXT and let her walk. That night this beautiful Venezuelan from Tinder comes by my place to meet me. She wasn't a pro. She wasn't comfortable with coming up to my apartment and I told her no worries the original plan was to have a coffee and chat and there is a coffee shop on the corner of my building, so we did. We had a nice conversation and by the time the shop was closing she was ok with coming up to my place. We chatted for a while and she gave me a sensual kiss as she left. We made plans to meet on Friday. Again at this point, I didn't suspect the Rona. But by Friday, I really wasn't well. I bought a thermometer and I had a fever and I had to cancel with her. I knew at this point I was going downhill fast and started suspecting The Rona. I rested Friday and I had my Covid test on Saturday to get back into the states. I figured at that point I would eliminate the doubt. Went for the test and came back positive. Damn. Not good. And I felt like crap on top. 15 more days in Colombia. Luckily Avianca let me change my flight no issues no extra cost and the airbnb where I was staying was available. The most concerning point about the Rona is the feeling of being winded. The only thing I can compare it to is when you're a bit out of shape and climb up a few flights of stairs. You're not quite gasping for air but you feel a lack of oxygen. But I felt that way walking to the kitchen! And taking a dump! Not normal of course. There was a brief moment, literally 15 minutes where I started to panic. I am feeling oxygen deprivation alone in an apartment in a foreign country. Luckily for me I'm Colombian at least and I had my cousin in contact with me looking out for me. She came by and dropped off fruits, herbs and left her contact info with the front desk in case anything happened to me. I can't remember a time feeling that vulnerable. I can definitely see how This breathing issue can become a serious issue for some people. Add to that a panic attack and it can really be devastating. So I chilled myself out and just focused on resting. I am not a doctor and this isn't medical advice. I was doing 16,000 MG of Vitamin C daily along with Vitamin D Zinc and elderberry extract. I was down the whole next week after my test. Just resting and sleeping. This made the quarantine time pass quickly. I viewed going to the hospital as a nuclear option and never felt even close to getting to that point. I figured ID get an oxygen cylinder before I went to the hospital if the breathing issue got that bad. But it didn't. 10 days after my test I felt better. My symptoms were gone. You don't have to get a negative test to travel. You need to keep your positive test wait 15 days and get a note from a doctor. I found a doctor who does telemedicineconference online. At that point all symptoms had subsided and I was feeling normal again. It cost me 80,000 pesos for the consultation and travel certificate. I had to send my trusted taxi buddy to Davidienda to deposit the money, but you might be able to do it online. Here's his link. Not sure if he speaks English.
https://telemedicinadoctorflorian.com.co/
Anyway, he told me that I was good to go. I no longer needed to be in quarantine because my first symptoms were over two weeks prior and I had done 10 days in quarantine( it was actually more than that). So the Rona part of the trip ended.
PS: the Venezuelan hottie that spent the first days with me never got sick.
10 days after my test I felt better. My symptoms were gone. You don't have to get a negative test to travel. You need to keep your positive test wait 15 days and get a note from a doctor. I found a doctor who does telemedicineconference online. At that point all symptoms had subsided and I was feeling normal again. It cost me 80,000 pesos for the consultation and travel certificate. I had to send my trusted taxi buddy to Davidienda to deposit the money, but you might be able to do it online. Here's his link. Not sure if he speaks English.
https://telemedicinadoctorflorian.com.co/
Anyway, he told me that I was good to go. I no longer needed to be in quarantine because my first symptoms were over two weeks prior and I had done 10 days in quarantine( it was actually more than that). So the Rona part of the trip ended.
PS: the Venezuelan hottie that spent the first days with me never got sick.And glad you beat that thing.
John Clayton
07-27-21, 07:11
...Went for the test and came back positive. Damn. Not good. And I felt like crap on top...Did you feel anything for all the people you infected?
John Clayton
07-27-21, 07:17
So. I started getting sick.... I am not a doctor and this isn't medical advice. I was doing 16,000 MG of Vitamin C daily ...16,000 MG = 16 grams. Do you ever have heartburn? Diarrhea? Stomach pain? Flatulence? Dude, you're taking too much.
"...I am not a doctor..." SMH (in disbelief).
16,000 MG = 16 grams. Do you ever have heartburn? Diarrhea? Stomach pain? Flatulence? Dude, you're taking too much.
"...I am not a doctor..." SMH (in disbelief).I believe that Linus Pauling recommended 18 grams a day and I actually fell a bit short of that. They have found with cancer patients using high doses of Vitamin see as a therapy up to 100 g a day can be tolerated with no ill effect. I was using a pharmaceutical grade and had no ill effect. The general recommendation is to take until bowel intolerance ie it makes you go to the bathroom, but I had the Rona so the runs is part of that. I experienced no ill effects at all. I have an exgirlfriend who suffers from heartburn and I give her high dose (not that high) and it doesn't aggravate her heartburn. But of course everyone should consult his her physician and I would be careful if you have some type of high acid or high pitta as they say in Ayurveda condition. I obviously can't say how it helped me but I recovered pretty quickly, never developed a serious cough, despite a history of always getting bad coughs and my smell and taste returning within days, which most people I know who had it had to wait months even up to a year. Here is the science if you are interested:
https://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/vitamins/vitamin-C#common-cold-treatment.
Did you feel anything for all the people you infected?Perhaps you didn't read the post and its hard to understand your comment. After developing symptoms, I did not come into contact with many people. The only one who was with me was the girl who I believe gave it to me who never developed any symptoms and the Tinder girl who also never developed any symptoms. In fact she came back after I was cleared and spent several nights with me and never got sick. I pretty much quarantined after the fatigue hit me and that is pretty clear in my post. So no I didn't feel guilty and had no reason to. In my time down there, I met many people, especially working girls, who were clearly sick but who didnt believe they had the Rona. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. This idea that we are guilty of murder because someone caught a cold from us is a dark road to go down, much worse than any illness.
John Clayton
07-27-21, 18:53
I believe that Linus Pauling recommended 18 grams a day and I actually fell a bit short of that...Here is the science if you are interested:
https://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/vitamins/vitamin-C#common-cold-treatment.Linus Pauling -- I'd forgot about him. He as great, great scientist. Simply fucking brilliant. However, he is something of a cautionary tale to other scientists, it being 'don't make the mistake of believing everything you think'. As I understand it, the current evidence based, medical consensus is that Vitamin see it does shorten the duration of a cold, at least in children, but has no effect on a cold duration if it is taken after the cold symptoms occur. Pauling was enthusiastic about Vitamin see as a cancer treatment as well and, I believe, suggested that up to 18 g could be taken without toxicity; however, I don't think he ever recommended dosages that high. Anyway, the effect on cold duration seems small and the effect on cancer seems nil. He did have the insight that vitamins might have important biochemical effects unrelated to their prevention of associated deficiency diseases, which could be true; although that has not yet been shown to be so. Vitamin see is critical to our immune systems, formation of collagen, absorbtion of iron, etc; however, the amount that can be used is unknown. I was reacting to the fact that you were taking a potentially toxic amount based on little or no evidence.
Speaking of statistical evidence, clearly, you had not previously been vaccinated against Covid 19 -- was this by choice? I am fascinated by the reasoning of people who willingly will consume handfuls of vitamins with no evidence that it benefits them (or even a coherent theory about how they may work), while rejecting a mind blowingly effective vaccine.
Linus Pauling -- I'd forgot about him. He as great, great scientist. Simply fucking brilliant. However, he is something of a cautionary tale to other scientists, it being 'don't make the mistake of believing everything you think'. As I understand it, the current evidence based, medical consensus is that Vitamin see it does shorten the duration of a cold, at least in children, but has no effect on a cold duration if it is taken after the cold symptoms occur. Pauling was enthusiastic about Vitamin see as a cancer treatment as well and, I believe, suggested that up to 18 g could be taken without toxicity; however, I don't think he ever recommended dosages that high. Anyway, the effect on cold duration seems small and the effect on cancer seems nil. He did have the insight that vitamins might have important biochemical effects unrelated to their prevention of associated deficiency diseases, which could be true; although that has not yet been shown to be so. Vitamin see is critical to our immune systems, formation of collagen, absorbtion of iron, etc; however, the amount that can be used is unknown. I was reacting to the fact that you were taking a potentially toxic amount based on little or no evidence.
Speaking of statistical evidence, clearly, you had not previously been vaccinated against Covid 19 -- was this by choice? I am fascinated by the reasoning of people who willingly will consume handfuls of vitamins with no evidence that it benefits them (or even a coherent theory about how they may work), while rejecting a mind blowingly effective vaccine.No evidence that that amount is potentially toxic. Seriously though, it seems like you are here to be adversarial and hostile. Why don't you take a chill pill and stick to talking about Colombian hotties? You want to play medical sage head over to webmd. Self reflection is useful. Go back through your prior posts. They don't portray an amicable personality. This really isn't the place for a cranky old dodger.
John Clayton
07-27-21, 19:34
...a cranky old dodger.Maybe 'codger'? Anyhow, you're right about me. I'm simply trying to counter disinformation on this forum.
Mr Enternational
07-27-21, 20:57
I am fascinated by the reasoning of people who willingly will consume handfuls of vitamins with no evidence that it benefits them (or even a coherent theory about how they may work), while rejecting a mind blowingly effective vaccine.The road to hell is paved with fascination as such. I mean who would reject the prosperity gospel while throwing their money at the stock market? After all, it is working out great for the preachers. ...as I sit at the beach not vaccinated around a ton of maskless mfs.
The road to hell is paved with fascination as such. I mean who would reject the prosperity gospel while throwing their money at the stock market? After all, it is working out great for the preachers. ...as I sit at the beach not vaccinated around a ton of maskless mfs.Mr. Enternational let me just say this publicly: you are my hero. Love your posts. You're living the life most of us can only dream of.
I shouldn't laugh, but this is some funny stuff.
The trail to the top of Monserrat is considered a pilgrimage. It's for the devout to prove their faith and purify themselves. For the godless heathens there's the funicular or the team, although the tram wasn't running when I visited. I think it cost 12 k, but that was 6 years ago.
Having just driven Bogota to Medellin and back I can sympathize with anyone who takes the bus. Yes the road is steep and winding and there's a lot of passing on blind corners.
I mostly enjoyed the drive, but I'd hate to take the trip as a passenger.Yeah. Atheist that I am, I took the funicular when I went up to the top. You would think most of the chicas in Bogotá would have made this trip before, surprisingly many haven't. Always a good thing to take a chica to when you're looking for something to do and show off your higher foreign value.
If you're both in Bogota, perhaps Melgar or Girardot? It's been ages, but did something similar with an ex-GF and friends years ago. Think it was about a 2 hour bus ride from BOG. We just rented a house that we had to ourselves that had a pool. No reception or anything like that. If I'm not mistaken, Melgar is called the swimming pool capital of Colombia they're so common.When I visited Bogotá before, I went out to a similar setup in Anapoima. It's in the valley past Melgar but not quite to Giradot. Was quite a bit hotter there and very relaxed. Good four days I spent there with my friend and his family. I was thinking this is the kind of place a gringo with on-point Spanish and social skills could score easily.
Prelude141
07-29-21, 19:40
Yeah. Atheist that I am, I took the funicular when I went up to the top. You would think most of the chicas in Bogot would have made this trip before, surprisingly many haven't. Always a good thing to take a chica to when you're looking for something to do and show off your higher foreign value.I confirm that and you can also have a meal once arrived there, there is nice restaurant with a room corridor offering a fantastic view over the city. I had once a diner with my chica there, was pretty early and we've seen the sunset from this terrace while dining and drinking a good wine. It was pretty romantic and she loved it. Restaurant is good but be aware is also a tourist trap regarding the prices but still OK for a gringo budget. I would do that visit again with no hesitation.
Mr Enternational
07-29-21, 19:59
If you're both in Bogota, perhaps Melgar or Girardot? It's been ages, but did something similar with an ex-GF and friends years ago. Think it was about a 2 hour bus ride from BOG. We just rented a house that we had to ourselves that had a pool. No reception or anything like that. If I'm not mistaken, Melgar is called the swimming pool capital of Colombia they're so common.Went to the water park in Melgar with my nurse chick the year before last. Had a good ass time. We only stayed 2 days. Took the bus and found a hotel. Dropped the luggage and changed clothes and took the bus to the water park. When that closed, went back to the hotel to changed and walked around town for dinner. Next day hung out in the hotel pool and took the bus back to Bogota the next morning.
Elvis 2008
07-30-21, 00:00
The road to hell is paved with fascination as such. I mean who would reject the prosperity gospel while throwing their money at the stock market? After all, it is working out great for the preachers. ...as I sit at the beach not vaccinated around a ton of maskless mfs.Yeah, you and I are the same with this Mr. E. Since Corona hit, I have been travelling twice a month.
Truth is the worst thing you can do is to have meals with people indoors and talk up close with multiple people for a long period of time. Hanging out with a chick who appears healthy is IMO not a risky thing to do as is going to the beach. If you are going to talk with someone, that is probably the best place to do it.
It is funny how the best ways to communicate were the ones so condemned by those proposing how important and healthy face to face was. It turns out texting, whatsapp, videochats, and email were the healthiest ways to communicate.
Yeah, stay away from the beach they said. Do not go the gym. How much shit advice have they given us? Did you notice that the number of cases in Colombia plummeted when people were not forced to stay inside?
I know we bumped heads in the beginning but kudos to you for listening, weighing what was bad and good advice, and tuning out the bullshit.
Elvis 2008
07-30-21, 00:04
Yeah. Atheist that I am, I took the funicular when I went up to the top. You would think most of the chicas in Bogot would have made this trip before, surprisingly many haven't. Always a good thing to take a chica to when you're looking for something to do and show off your higher foreign value.LOL. #1 thing to do in Cali on Trip Advisor was the zoo. I took a 21 year old teacher I met on SA there, and she had a blast. It is amazing how many of the top tourist things the young women who live in Colombia (and other places) have not done.
Unfortunately, I do not think of Bogota is a place with many tourist things to do, however as has been pointed out, there are a lot of things to do only a short time away.
And if you can get a girl from Bogota to Cancun, you will be a God they never will forget. If you find a keeper, Wingo Air has flights for like $300 for them. It is highly recommended if you want to get a woman out of the cold of Bogota.
Prelude141
07-30-21, 00:32
Hi guys,
I need your advises. My chica asked me to bring her to a swinger club. She wants something high class in the north. I visited a few clubs in the north but only club de putas and I have never been to a swinger club. To be honest I m bit scared to find myself in the kind of places but also excited So definitely want to try the experience. Does any body know a good place to go?
Hi guys,
I need your advises. My chica asked me to bring her to a swinger club. She wants something high class in the north. I visited a few clubs in the north but only club de putas and I have never been to a swinger club. To be honest I m bit scared to find myself in the kind of places but also excited So definitely want to try the experience. Does any body know a good place to go?In my Bogota FAQ, you can find a complete overview of the swinger scene... before Covid.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=2241562&viewfull=1#post2241562.
I haven t been back since the pandemic started, so can't really update the scene. Can give you through pm a whatsap group however for swinger parties.
Hi guys,
I need your advises. My chica asked me to bring her to a swinger club. She wants something high class in the north. I visited a few clubs in the north but only club de putas and I have never been to a swinger club. To be honest I m bit scared to find myself in the kind of places but also excited So definitely want to try the experience. Does any body know a good place to go?I can't help you with a swinger club in Bogota, but I might be able to relieve your worries. I was active on the swing scene in the US for about 12 years with a few different girlfriends.
The typical swingers in the US are in the 30-50 range, although I've seen couples from early 20's to over 70. Mostly they're just normal people, living normal lives. Some will be attractive, some won't. Probably the average will be better in Bogota.
I think most Colombian clubs require you to strip down. That might be the most awkward part, depending on you. One rule I've always found is "no means no. " You don't touch without asking and if someone isn't interested, you move on.
Before you go you need to discuss it with your girl. What is she wanting to do? If jealousy is an issue for either of you, you need to set limits. There may be times when you feel left out. There may be times when someone else is getting a better reaction from her than you normally get. If either has self esteem issues, it'll almost certainly come into play.
I believe many Bogota swing clubs bring in extra girls, because that's where the demand is.
Just take it slow, let your girl take the lead and be aware of how each other is feeling.
One strategy which works well, if you see a girl or couple you're both interested in, wait for the girl to go to the bathroom, then send your girl after her. Girls seem to find it easy to make connections in the bathroom they'll decide whether the interest is mutual.
In the US, condom usage at swing clubs was rare. That may be different in Bogota. Be prepared.
Hello,
I will be going to Bogota for a week my first time in Colombia. Next month can anyone give me a link or PM me some nice airbnb's that are Guest Friendly. I want an apartment for this trip not a hotel.
Thanks.
Prelude141
07-31-21, 08:51
Thanks Routard and JjBee62 for your answers. Yeah, will take it easy. My girl is not shy and she loves sex so I suspect she should enjoy and that's probably why she suggested we should try to discover this type of parties. I have no problem to see her enjoying other guys, we are good friends and sex friends but we are not a couple. I spend time with her when I m in Bogota and we just enjoy together. I wouldn't mind shagging other sexy girls even in her presence. She already knows that I monger in Bogota when I'm not with her so it looks like this next step might be a good experience.
Hi Blade:
Thanks for the detailed information. Are you sure about the firewall at Viaggio Virrey? Routard specifically recommends that hotel. But obviously not being able to access ISG would be a deal breaker for many members.
Errol.Why worry about the hotel's Wi-Fi, just use your phone's Wi-Fi.
Hello,
I will be going to Bogota for a week my first time in Colombia. Next month can anyone give me a link or PM me some nice airbnb's that are Guest Friendly. I want an apartment for this trip not a hotel.
Thanks.You have to check with the owner or whoever is the contact on Airbnb. Because no matter what the deal was with someone in the past it may not be that way now. I know that a lot of places that were guest friendly in the past are not now. Things like Covid changed that.
I've stayed in Airbnb's in Colombia at least 8 times, and only once was one guest friendly.
You have to check with the owner or whoever is the contact on Airbnb. Because no matter what the deal was with someone in the past it may not be that way now. I know that a lot of places that were guest friendly in the past are not now. Things like Covid changed that.
I've stayed in Airbnb's in Colombia at least 8 times, and only once was one guest friendly.Thanks. What about hotels then? From what I read here IBIS is guest friendly. I have a room reserved there in case I can't get the airbnb I was interested in. Is there somewhere that has up to date info on hotels that allows girls to come in?
Thanks. What about hotels then? From what I read here IBIS is guest friendly. I have a room reserved there in case I can't get the airbnb I was interested in. Is there somewhere that has up to date info on hotels that allows girls to come in?Hotels near Santa Fe, Tequendama Suites and Hotel San Francisco. Hotel Virrey Park in the north-- There are others I do not know.
There are nice GF Airbnbs in Bacata Building -- can't tell you which-- Nice places to stay also in the area of the Teqendama hotel area known as Teusaquillo or barrio San Diego.
Some nice highrise bldgs in that area with GF AirBnbs-.
Don Carlos stayed at all these last couple of weeks-- Contact him-- Good luck.
I confirm that and you can also have a meal once arrived there, there is nice restaurant with a room corridor offering a fantastic view over the city. I had once a diner with my chica there, was pretty early and we've seen the sunset from this terrace while dining and drinking a good wine. It was pretty romantic and she loved it. Restaurant is good but be aware is also a tourist trap regarding the prices but still OK for a gringo budget. I would do that visit again with no hesitation.When I was there almost 2 years ago, there was a French restaurant and a Colombian restaurant there at the top. Both are very nice places with good service, food and amazing views. I took my chica to the Colombian restaurant there as she was not open to trying the French cuisine. Yes, the prices are high for Bogotá; but, they are not too high for a gringo making good $$$ and with a favorable exchange rate.
And if you can get a girl from Bogota to Cancun, you will be a God they never will forget. If you find a keeper, Wingo Air has flights for like $300 for them. It is highly recommended if you want to get a woman out of the cold of Bogota.Roger that. One of my chicas there was dying for me to take her to Mazunte when I was going vacation there. Too bad she got kicked to the curb for overplaying her greedy, gold digging hand. LOL.
Hello,
I will be going to Bogota for a week my first time in Colombia. Next month can anyone give me a link or PM me some nice airbnb's that are Guest Friendly. I want an apartment for this trip not a hotel.
Thanks.Suggest you directly contact the owner of the apartment through the AirBnB website and ask directly if he / his building is "guest-friendly". The apartment in which I stay in Chapinero is chica-friendly; but, they do need to have a government-issued ID and present it to security at the front desk (yes, even when I am escorting them in) to be entered into the visitor's log before being granted access to the building.
Has anyone here ever used https://www.lasnenasbogota.com.
Just wanted to know if it was a reliable agency hopeful of a longer than one hour booking wasn't looking for a whole lot of drama.
Mr Enternational
08-01-21, 23:39
I took my chica to the Colombian restaurant there as she was not open to trying the French cuisine.Took one of my chicks to Benito Juarez. She said she had never eaten Mexican food. She loved it so much that she wanted to go back the next day. When I asked why she had never eaten Mexican food before, she said because she was scared. What did she think they were serving that she had to be scared about?
Elvis 2008
08-03-21, 23:43
Took one of my chicks to Benito Juarez. She said she had never eaten Mexican food. She loved it so much that she wanted to go back the next day. When I asked why she had never eaten Mexican food before, she said because she was scared. What did she think they were serving that she had to be scared about?The spice. My gal freaks out if anything Mexican is spicy hot.
I taste the food before hand to see if something is too spicy but sometimes there is something mild and I say it is okay and she tries it and even says then it is too hot.
Ended up in Bogota last night because my flight to Medellin cancelled.
Last flight of the day to Medellin from Miami.
I just transferred over to the Bogota flight on a whim.
Finally got to my hotel in Bogota at about 2 am.
Rested up and decided today would be a Santa Fe day.
Daytime at about 4 pm made a few laps around the area.
Talked to a few girls, and then I spotted the one, LOL.
A slim, 19 year old morena with a nice booty and a very sweet looking face.
And sweet she was, from the get go.
She told me 40 mil pesos, I told her fine, but I wanted longer than 20 min and I wanted TLC, cario, novia type sexo, etc.
Told her no knock on the door surprises. LOL.
She said she'd stay as long as I needed, I spoke with the lady running the motel and with 20 mil to her, I had up to 90 min.
The sweet morena told me to pay her afterwards whatever I thought was right.
Total GFE. At one point she rolled me on my back and told me to just relax, and she devoured me.
Great time!
We were together about an hour and 20 min, I gave her 100 mil peso note plus 20 mil extra.
I was planning on an early hop to Medellin tomorrow, however, I'll delay a little to see this girl again beforehand.
As a side note.
Afterwards I got something to eat, then checked out the strip clubs.
At Paisas, I saw a beautiful girl dancing on the stage.
She was stunning, I'm heading back there now to see if she's freed up.
Another dude had her at his table, after her stage time.
Master Monger
08-04-21, 22:00
Hey guys,
I have been in Bogota for a few days and for the life of me I can not find a decent priced massage place. Every phone number on the maps is either disconnected or they are quoting about $40 USD an hour. I don't understand how sex is cheaper than massages so I must be doing something wrong. Please let me know if you know a decent place to get a real massage! Thanks in advance.
Tit for Tat: I had a good time yesterday about 6 pm with a beautiful girl on Carrera 15 between Calle 22-23 closer to the 22 end. Next to rapi Delicias. I was talking her up to come back to my hotel but when she asked how much I low balled her with 50 K for an hour and that spooked her. She finally agreed to only do it there at that hotel for 120 k including the room for 1 hour. First 20 minutes was GFE and then her brain kicked in and she just wanted to do the deed. Excellent blowjob, super tight and overall very good. When they knocked on the door at 47 minutes she started asking for a tip. I should have never paid in advance but I just told her I had no small money. I probably would repeat with her if I couldn't find anything better another day but only in my hotel!
I know I overpayed but she was the only 1 out of 50 that we saw in the whole area that was acceptable to me so rather than waste a trip to Santa Fe I payed that much.
Happy mongering,
MM.
Elvis 2008
08-05-21, 00:13
Hey guys,
I have been in Bogota for a few days and for the life of me I can not find a decent priced massage place. Every phone number on the maps is either disconnected or they are quoting about $40 USD an hour. I don't understand how sex is cheaper than massages so I must be doing something wrong. Please let me know if you know a decent place to get a real massage! Thanks in advance.
Tit for Tat: I had a good time yesterday about 6 pm with a beautiful girl on Carrera 15 between Calle 22-23 closer to the 22 end. Next to rapi Delicias. I was talking her up to come back to my hotel but when she asked how much I low balled her with 50 K for an hour and that spooked her. She finally agreed to only do it there at that hotel for 120 k including the room for 1 hour. First 20 minutes was GFE and then her brain kicked in and she just wanted to do the deed. Excellent blowjob, super tight and overall very good. When they knocked on the door at 47 minutes she started asking for a tip. I should have never paid in advance but I just told her I had no small money. I probably would repeat with her if I couldn't find anything better another day but only in my hotel!
I know I overpayed but she was the only 1 out of 50 that we saw in the whole area that was acceptable to me so rather than waste a trip to Santa Fe I payed that much.
Happy mongering,
MM.I will give you the number of my hooker Alejandra that I use for a massage in Santa Fe if you PM me. I give her 100,000 k for an hour. She has hands of steel, gives a great massage, and fucked the shit out of me at the end. I get DFK and BBBJ with her but YMMV. She works a hotel across from Club Piscina in Santa Fe from noon to five PM. Let me know if you find any body fat on her because I could not. She is my chocolate energizer bunny.
I'm going to Colombia in September and a good cheap legitimate massage is one of the things I want. Also looking for happy massages and thinking I might stay around the Mezzanines or else around Santa Fe. Decisions Decisions.
I will give you the number of my hooker Alejandra that I use for a massage in Santa Fe if you PM me. I give her 100,000 k for an hour. She has hands of steel, gives a great massage, and fucked the shit out of me at the end. I get DFK and BBBJ with her but YMMV. She works a hotel across from Club Piscina in Santa Fe from noon to five PM. Let me know if you find any body fat on her because I could not. She is my chocolate energizer bunny.
I Have been so busy with my work on-line that I have not had much time to post here-.
I Have been to SF several times in las few weeks -- Gave a few tours to some ISG guys-- All happy with SF.
LOL, One guy a Asian Swiss was asking every other girl for BBFS-- Hilarity ensued-- he was successful, a crazy young guy-- I think he sessioned 3-4 times while we were out.
I was there on a Monday night for 4 hours straight-- It was decent, a bit slower as can be expected. Still some good action.
Clubs; Went to all clubs and they were as usual-- hit and miss but more hit than miss.
I enjoy Venus and Atonis better as they get the newer younger girls. They are just more fun in general- When the these clubs are at full swing there are 30+ girls and at least 5-10 that are 7-8+.
At Atonis on Fri-Sat there are Live Sex Shows about 9 pm, You can bone a girl on stage for $3.
I was there Friday and there was a really hot semi morena 18-20 yrs getting boned hard by this black guy for 15-20 minutes-.
BlueChange
08-09-21, 04:06
It's funny, sometimes your in a game so long that you actually forget who you fucked.
I came across her last year around this time when I was knee deep in qurentine and was looking for something close to my old place in Chapinero. Anyway fast forward I went all.
The way to Usaquen and open the door and lo and behold I.
Had fucked and sucked this girl many times before! She looks fantastic and even better then last time in account of her newly found Lipo! I recall the last time I saw her she was getting a little beefy; however now she is a bombshell. She has the cup fake titles that.
Feel soft, a luciouis thick ass and a nice light cinnamon Pussy that gets wet easy. We start off DFK, and she immediately goes oral natural on my cock. Her face is pretty she has little beauty marks on it. She does intense pornstsr style sucking and remembers to lick the balls throughly. We strap up and I get deep inside her pussy. I can't last that long and I ask her where she wants my leche. She pushed her tits together and as I pull out and rip off the rubber she grabs my cock and jerks a 7 ropper on her bolt on titties. Soo much Cum she laughed that it is nonstop. I get her a babywipe. Clean up, shower.
Lay down for 20 min more she gives me a massage and pops on Netflix.
Would repeat again with this Venezuelan beuauty.
Karol.
+57 301 7089777 150 K per hour.
I'll be in Bogota in 3 weeks and will definitely hit up Karol.
Thank you for the report.
It's funny, sometimes your in a game so long that you actually forget who you fucked.
I came across her last year around this time when I was knee deep in qurentine and was looking for something close to my old place in Chapinero. Anyway fast forward I went all.
The way to Usaquen and open the door and lo and behold I.
Had fucked and sucked this girl many times before! She looks fantastic and even better then last time in account of her newly found Lipo! I recall the last time I saw her she was getting a little beefy; however now she is a bombshell. She has the cup fake titles that.
Feel soft, a luciouis thick ass and a nice light cinnamon Pussy that gets wet easy. We start off DFK, and she immediately goes oral natural on my cock. Her face is pretty she has little beauty marks on it. She does intense pornstsr style sucking and remembers to lick the balls throughly. We strap up and I get deep inside her pussy. I can't last that long and I ask her where she wants my leche. She pushed her tits together and as I pull out and rip off the rubber she grabs my cock and jerks a 7 ropper on her bolt on titties. Soo much Cum she laughed that it is nonstop. I get her a babywipe. Clean up, shower.
Lay down for 20 min more she gives me a massage and pops on Netflix.
Would repeat again with this Venezuelan beuauty.
Karol.
+57 301 7089777 150 K per hour.
Had a quick trip planned to Costa Rica. The famous Hotel Del Rey is closed, they have a 9:00 pm Curfew with COVID, clubs are shutdown. Sounded terrible, so I changed flights to Bogota. It'll be my first time in Columbia.
Based on info here, I went with Tequendama Suites since it's close to Santa Fe and chica friendly. One girl I found on mileroticos messaged me back and said Tequendama is an ugly hotel and I would have to get a different hotel if I want to see her. Oh well.
I plan on spending a night at strip clubs. Will definitely hit up Atonis and Venus based on the review below. I'll spend an afternoon walking around Santa Fe. And for the last night, I would like to have two or three higher end chicas stay overnight.
My question is, how do we feel about mileroticos and photoprepagos? I assume they're hit and miss, but are the ads generally reliable or generally fake? I'm too lazy to use SA or Facebook. Sounds like a lot of work.
Any info you can provide would be helpful. I look forward to giving a full report in a few weeks!
Where do you guys go for the covid test? Looking for a good place to get a covid test for travelling back to the US I will be staying in Chapinero area.
Viajando Musico
08-10-21, 00:51
One girl I found on mileroticos messaged me back and said Tequendama is an ugly hotel and I would have to get a different hotel if I want to see her. Oh well.The girl probably mistakenly thought you are staying at Hotel Tequendama instead of Tequendama Suite. Tequendama Suite is a 4-star in Bogota's standard, and is where I stayed when played in Santa Fe. Very spacious suite with kitchenette and more updated than Hotel Tequendama. Hotel Tequendama, a luxurious hotel a while back has passed its glorious days, and needs updating badly. I stayed there once and swear to myself never again. So I am not surprised with the girl's comment if she meant Hotel Tequendama.
To my knowledge, both are not girl friendly although some posters said Tequendama Suite is. You might want to confirm that with the hotel if you plan to bring back chicas. The Ibis across the street Is GF. Like most hotels in downtown Bogota, traffic noise is bad is you are a light sleeper. Bring some ear plugs.
Mr Enternational
08-10-21, 01:32
Based on info here, I went with Tequendama Suites since it's close to Santa Fe and chica friendly. And for the last night, I would like to have two or three higher end chicas stay overnight.
My question is, how do we feel about mileroticos and photoprepagos?Your question should have been how are you going to get them into the hotel.
Elvis 2008
08-10-21, 01:33
Where do you guys go for the covid test? Looking for a good place to get a covid test for travelling back to the US I will be staying in Chapinero area.Ask your hotel. Someone came to Marriott for me. It was only $30 and I did not have to wait in line or take an hour out of my day. It was nice. It took all of 10 minutes which was cool.
Had a quick trip planned to Costa Rica. The famous Hotel Del Rey is closed, they have a 9:00 pm Curfew with COVID, clubs are shutdown. Sounded terrible, so I changed flights to Bogota. It'll be my first time in Columbia.
Based on info here, I went with Tequendama Suites since it's close to Santa Fe and chica friendly. One girl I found on mileroticos messaged me back and said Tequendama is an ugly hotel and I would have to get a different hotel if I want to see her. Oh well.
I plan on spending a night at strip clubs. Will definitely hit up Atonis and Venus based on the review below. I'll spend an afternoon walking around Santa Fe. And for the last night, I would like to have two or three higher end chicas stay overnight.The Teqendama Suites is a great place to stay-- guests during the day are free I understand. So many ISG guys stay there-.
There is a Great high-rise with AirBnbs that is just Fantastic.Don Carlos stayed there recently-- Beautiful GF-- But I do not know which.
Building is the Edificio Museo Parque Central-- on the corne of Calle 28 and cr 13 a. Another club to check out is Texas-- it is the cheapest club, smaller on Calle 23 and CR 16-- I walked in the other day and there were a couple of really hot girls who were busy doing lapdances.
I have a mental note to go back- Also California a couple doors up the street is worth checking out. These 4 clubs are the cheaper clubs but as I said before you find newer younger girls there.
LapDances as low as $3 and a lot of time you can play Dr with the girls. Some girls that is. A lot will let you spread their pussy from the sides -- but will stop you if you start to touch their labias LOL.
Sessioning in these places is 50 mil- 80 mil. Some BB action but it's difficult. You got to romance these girls for that.
Going upstairs at Venus and Atonis is very interesting, they have brightly lit make-up rooms where girls are sitting around naked. Just Fantastic at times.
There is another I used to go to named La Casona next to Troya, not sure if that is open.
Attached are a few photos of Girls from these clubs. These are from years ago. Same quality now.
You definitely should see the Live sex show at Venus. That is something different. Not easy to find something like that-- It is Surreal to be in a crowded club and Sex is happening right there.
Your question should have been how are you going to get them into the hotel.Well that sucks. I can cancel Tequendama Suites. I just wanted somewhere close to Santa Fe where the action is. I can take a cab somewhere farther. What's the nicest chica friendly spot you can recommend?
Appreciate it guys.
The girl probably mistakenly thought you are staying at Hotel Tequendama instead of Tequendama Suite. Tequendama Suite is a 4-star in Bogota's standard, and is where I stayed when played in Santa Fe. Very spacious suite with kitchenette and more updated than Hotel Tequendama. Hotel Tequendama, a luxurious hotel a while back has passed its glorious days, and needs updating badly. I stayed there once and swear to myself never again. So I am not surprised with the girl's comment if she meant Hotel Tequendama.
To my knowledge, both are not girl friendly although some posters said Tequendama Suite is. You might want to confirm that with the hotel if you plan to bring back chicas. The Ibis across the street Is GF. Like most hotels in downtown Bogota, traffic noise is bad is you are a light sleeper. Bring some ear plugs.Thanks man. I went back a few months and found that Woodman (sounds like I need a Woodman tour, BTW) previously recommended JW Marriott in Chapinero. The guest fees aren't that big of a deal.
Anything I need to know before I book this place? They allow more than one guest at a time? Thanks guys.
ArmnHammer69
08-11-21, 03:47
Hi guys,
Curious how things are and if need a negative pcr test before arrival and to leave? I'll be flying from Canada and changing flights in the USA.
How are things at fiebre, troya and paisas? My 3 favorites!
NewYorkLover
08-11-21, 15:21
Lots of prepagos haters limit you to one guest on the registration and only that guest can be admitted, tats how they limit you from bringing a bunch of different women. Make a left of of the Click Clack go 2 blocks north to Lloyds Apartasuites. $50 us a night and never a question of who visits you. I stay here exclusively for the last 8 years, PM me if you need more info.Hola LL,
Trying to PM you but your inbox is full.
In September I'm going to Bogotá for two weeks with only one purpose to see the girls. What is your opinion? Where is more reasonable to settle? Close to the Mezzanine and travel to Santa Fe or near Santa Fe and travel to Mezzanine. I don't care about other tourist activities, night life, and safety is not the main concern. Why had an experience with Hotel San Francisco de Asís and Ibis Bogota Museo? If I pay for two guests, could I bring and change the girls without headaches with reception? My experience in some hotels. The hotels allow to register one girl and you have to pay for the next one,. Or you can bring girls before 8 pm and than you have to pay if you they stay longer, etc. Please share your experience and opinion.
In September I'm going to Bogot for two weeks with only one purpose to see the girls. What is your opinion? Where is more reasonable to settle? Close to the Mezzanine and travel to Santa Fe or near Santa Fe and travel to Mezzanine. I don't care about other tourist activities, night life, and safety is not the main concern. Why had an experience with Hotel San Francisco de Ass and Ibis Bogota Museo? If I pay for two guests, could I bring and change the girls without headaches with reception? My experience in some hotels. The hotels allow to register one girl and you have to pay for the next one,. Or you can bring girls before 8 pm and than you have to pay if you they stay longer, etc. Please share your experience and opinion.I know many ISG guys who have stayed at Ibis and SF hotel-- Both have not been a hassle to have different girls 1 at a time- Girls should have ID.
I think those are great choices if you want to go to Santa Fe a lot-- You can cab or take Transmilenio to La Mezzanine very easily.
Good Luck!
Thanks man. I went back a few months and found that Woodman (sounds like I need a Woodman tour, BTW) previously recommended JW Marriott in Chapinero. The guest fees aren't that big of a deal.
Anything I need to know before I book this place? They allow more than one guest at a time? Thanks guys.I sneaked a girl in there once, but she didn't look like a hooker and we went in as if we belonged. But while I don't have a firsthand knowledge, I doubt they'd let you bring 2 girls, even for the additional fee.
OakTownPaul
08-11-21, 22:51
Lots of prepagos haters limit you to one guest on the registration and only that guest can be admitted, tats how they limit you from bringing a bunch of different women. Make a left of of the Click Clack go 2 blocks north to Lloyds Apartasuites. $50 us a night and never a question of who visits you. I stay here exclusively for the last 8 years, PM me if you need more info.I am going to Bogota and Cartagena in November 2021. I made reservations to stay at the Click Clack Hotel. I will cancel reservation and reserve a room down the street where I can better make use of the facilities! Thanks.
In September I'm going to Bogot for two weeks with only one purpose to see the girls. What is your opinion? Where is more reasonable to settle? Close to the Mezzanine and travel to Santa Fe or near Santa Fe and travel to Mezzanine. I don't care about other tourist activities, night life, and safety is not the main concern. Why had an experience with Hotel San Francisco de Ass and Ibis Bogota Museo? If I pay for two guests, could I bring and change the girls without headaches with reception? My experience in some hotels. The hotels allow to register one girl and you have to pay for the next one,. Or you can bring girls before 8 pm and than you have to pay if you they stay longer, etc. Please share your experience and opinion.North (Mezzanine) is much better area to live and set dates. You can always bring them to motels as Colombians do. I would book an apartment for 2 weeks. Of course mine is only an opinion. Santa Fe is a hit them and run away area. Usaquen, area near Andino Mall. Better areas of the city by all means.
Getting out of Toronto is relatively easy. You would only have to supply whatever information Colombia requires.
Getting back in is a nightmare. The arrivecan app gets used once. Someone checks it is valid. But you fill out information about 5 times. Immigration, screening, Covid testing, etc. Etc. Don't know why they can't use the same information at each step. Say from the ArriveCan app. But they don't. May help if you also download the Corona testing app. Don't know what it is called, but filling it out as you stand in line really sucks.
And then, as a fully vaccinated person coming back you would think they might let you know what you need to do or don't need to do. But after an hour of filling out forms, being interviewed, setting up apps, getting tested. You walk out in a daze without a real clue what you can or cannot do. And the only good thing is that they don't usher you to a quarantine hotel. I had to research what was expected after I got home. Basically they treat everyone as if they are subject to full quarantine, and let you figure it out if you aren't.Oh man it seems like a nightmare. Even fully vaccinated people require a test result that is less than 72 hours of your direct flight back to Canada. But doesn't it take up to 3 days to even get test results? Or more for the CRP tests required for travel? Isn't that cutting it pretty close, even with a direct flight? Can I ask where did you get your test, and was it expensive? And how long did it take to get your results? I'd appreciate information from anyone with some insight to offer. Imagine paying hundreds of dollars for a test that isn't ready in time and then not being allowed on your flight. Seems like the Canadian government is trying to defer people from travelling by just burying it's citizens in layers of bureaucracy.
Someone please give me some hope.
LatinaLover#1
08-12-21, 14:40
I am going to Bogota and Cartagena in November 2021. I made reservations to stay at the Click Clack Hotel. I will cancel reservation and reserve a room down the street where I can better make use of the facilities! Thanks.They have a rooftop bar, or at least they had one, not sure if Covid made them close it. At one time you could go up there then make your way to the room. IMO that's too much aggravation to deal with. I have been by that hotel hundreds of times always business groups and familys coming and going. And it seems they try to discourage prepago visits and keep it a family hotel. I have an excellent recommendation a block and a half from there. Send me a PM.
LatinaLover#1
08-12-21, 14:45
Hola LL,
Trying to PM you but your inbox is full.Ok to write me.
The spice. My gal freaks out if anything Mexican is spicy hot.
I taste the food before hand to see if something is too spicy but sometimes there is something mild and I say it is okay and she tries it and even says then it is too hot.I can believe that. Colombian food for the most part is quite bland, especially compared to Mexican food.
North (Mezzanine) is much better area to live and set dates. You can always bring them to motels as Colombians do. I would book an apartment for 2 weeks. Of course mine is only an opinion. Santa Fe is a hit them and run away area. Usaquen, area near Andino Mall. Better areas of the city by all means.I have always liked Chapinero. Good, safe area that is central to Santa Fe to the South and Parque Virrey to the North.
Oh man it seems like a nightmare. Even fully vaccinated people require a test result that is less than 72 hours of your direct flight back to Canada. But doesn't it take up to 3 days to even get test results? Or more for the CRP tests required for travel? Isn't that cutting it pretty close, even with a direct flight? Can I ask where did you get your test, and was it expensive? And how long did it take to get your results? I'd appreciate information from anyone with some insight to offer. Imagine paying hundreds of dollars for a test that isn't ready in time and then not being allowed on your flight. Seems like the Canadian government is trying to defer people from travelling by just burying it's citizens in layers of bureaucracy.
Someone please give me some hope.Why would you pay hundreds of dollars for a test? There are 2 testing locations right at the Bogota airport which charge 140 k which is about $45 Canadian. Test results in an hour for the antigen test. If Canada requires the PCR test you can get results in less than 24 hours.
If you don't want to use the airport testing center (protip: number 2 is much less busy than number 1), there are many labs which will provide PCR results in under 24 hours. They will even come to your hotel to test you. I can't imagine any test in Colombia now costing More than $70 Canadian or taking longer than 24 hours.
I have always liked Chapinero. Good, safe area that is central to Santa Fe to the South and Parque Virrey to the North.Walked in Chapinero at night, no problems; however, west of Transmilenio should not be an area to walk aimlessly at night. Anyway, I responded to a choice between two options.
Oh man it seems like a nightmare. Even fully vaccinated people require a test result that is less than 72 hours of your direct flight back to Canada. But doesn't it take up to 3 days to even get test results? Or more for the CRP tests required for travel? Isn't that cutting it pretty close, even with a direct flight? Can I ask where did you get your test, and was it expensive? And how long did it take to get your results? I'd appreciate information from anyone with some insight to offer. Imagine paying hundreds of dollars for a test that isn't ready in time and then not being allowed on your flight. Seems like the Canadian government is trying to defer people from travelling by just burying it's citizens in layers of bureaucracy.
Someone please give me some hope.It has to be a PCR test. So go somewhere to get a PCR test with a 24 hour turn around. That applies to everyone entering Canada, vaccinations or not. I was in Costa Rica not Colombia, but had no problem getting a PCR test, with 24 hour turnaround.
Then, when you get to your destination in Canada you will be required to take a test at the airport. Also a PCR test.
If you are vaccinated, both doses, more than 15 days since your second shot, then you can skip the quarantine requirement and go home. You may be asked to take another PCR test on day 8 after your arrival, but my understanding is that this is optional if you are fully vaccinated.
Ok to write me.Tried to PM you as well. Your mailbox is full again. You are a popular man, LOL.
Can anyone tell me where I can get a good exchange rate withdrawing from an ATM with a Schwab card? I tried a Davienda ATM inside an Olimpica in Chapinero and it offered me a rate around 3500 pesos per dollar. Yahoo Finance shows 3838 peso per dollar, so I declined and the transaction did not go through. Next I tried a Servibanca ATM. It indicated that there would be a fee of 16.000 pesos. I accepted since Schwab reimburses fees, but then it offered a rate of around 3600 pesos per dollar, so I hesitated and the transaction did not go through.
Thanks Zeos and JJBee62 for the info.
And Elvis if you see this, or whoever else I might have pissed off a while back with my stance against raw dogging ams right after pros, I want to say my bad. The risk is a choice between the two consenting adults involved and I was acting a bit sanctimonious.
Mr Enternational
08-14-21, 16:03
Can anyone tell me where I can get a good exchange rate withdrawing from an ATM with a Schwab card? I tried a Davienda ATM inside an Olimpica in Chapinero and it offered me a rate around 3500 pesos per dollar. Yahoo Finance shows 3838 peso per dollar, so I declined and the transaction did not go through.Never accept the rate. You decline that and it automatically gives you the interbank exchange rate. You must have hit cancel or something, otherwise it goes through normally. I think all the rates are the same, except when they offer you a rate it means they are trying to rip you off.
World Travel 69
08-14-21, 17:23
This map may help.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1mIZMErk8w3Us_tnZ-lVs6h6kgvA&ll=4.649855376936736%2C-74.06863960000003&z=15
This might Help.
Walked in Chapinero at night, no problems; however, west of Transmilenio should not be an area to walk aimlessly at night. Anyway, I responded to a choice between two options..
Never accept the rate. You decline that and it automatically gives you the interbank exchange rate. You must have hit cancel or something, otherwise it goes through normally. I think all the rates are the same, except when they offer you a rate it means they are trying to rip you off.The ATM screen gives you a choice to 'Decline Conversion' I suppose this a trick to make gringos think they will cancel the transaction if they decline? Why else? Yes the transaction goes through-.
But Recently I have been taking out 3.9 Million pesos a day for business and I have used several banks-- I ran the numbers the other day on a few different banks on the rates-.
BanColombia is consistently skimming 200 pesos Per Dollar while the others were giving me the full rate from the day before-- I had not been using BanCol because they have a 600 mil per trans and others are much higher but I had to use them a couple of days for convenience-- I noticed a bit of a difference on my bank statement so I ran numbers. And I did do transactions at BanCol and Colpatria the same day and it was a 200 peso PD difference-- I had Bancol WDs on 2 different days that I checked-.
Here are the max amounts per transaction on a few banks;.
Davivienda gives 2 million pesos at 1 time-- Caja Social gives up to 1. 9 million, Pinchicha gives up to 1 million and Colpatria gives 900 mil.
I was out in Santa Fe from 7 to 11. Streets were pretty fair--Not bad.
Went to Venus, Troya, Atonis and Fiebre, Texas, and California-.
I love that I can walk into clubs and just walk out if I feel like it and there is no cover. I read on MDE board they are paying covers to clubs-.
Venus was not as good as last week, about 12 girls some pretty hot and no sex show-- I suppose because it was not as busy?
Troya had about 30+ girls 10+ were above average a few really super hot.
Fiebre had about 20+ girls, 10+ above average -- a few super hot.
Atonis had about 20+ girls many average 8 were above average+.
California was not really busy but we were there early.
Texas had about 10 girls it was early-- pretty average. They were saying that there was going to be a sex show but as I said the quality was not so much.
Police Sweep / Inspection-- There was a team of cops going from club to club checking IDs. First time I ever have experienced that. We were in Fiebre and they came in asked for IDs. The guy I was with had only a photo of passport on phone which the cop said was not sufficient but let off with that. You should at least have a paper copy which usually is sufficient.
There was a squad of machine gun toting soldiers as I was walking out.
All in all I would say that SF is still a great place for those who give it a chance.
Can anyone tell me where I can get a good exchange rate withdrawing from an ATM with a Schwab card? I tried a Davienda ATM inside an Olimpica in Chapinero and it offered me a rate around 3500 pesos per dollar. Yahoo Finance shows 3838 peso per dollar, so I declined and the transaction did not go through. Next I tried a Servibanca ATM. It indicated that there would be a fee of 16.000 pesos. I accepted since Schwab reimburses fees, but then it offered a rate of around 3600 pesos per dollar, so I hesitated and the transaction did not go through.Some banks play this stupid game and during the ATM transaction you are asked for Currency Conversion. Always select 'no' or you will get a very bad exchange rate. Recently I used ATM at NovaScotia bank and did not see it asking for it so that is a good option. I did see this currency conversion at Servibanca ATM. Personally I stay away from ATM banks that prompt for this conversion. It is a scam.
Never accept the rate. You decline that and it automatically gives you the interbank exchange rate. You must have hit cancel or something, otherwise it goes through normally. I think all the rates are the same, except when they offer you a rate it means they are trying to rip you off.Thanks! My withdrawals failed because I entered the wrong account type. I had forgotten that my Schwab account is a checking account, not a saving account. I went back to the Davivienda ATM and tried again. It offered me a rate of 3562. I declined, then received cash at a rate of 3887.
LatinaLover#1
08-15-21, 01:01
Tried to PM you as well. Your mailbox is full again. You are a popular man, LOL.Sorry, I thought I deleted a lot of them, I'll clear out so more now.
Stinky Squid
08-15-21, 03:43
So here is a strange thing. I have been contacting some prepagos, and suddenly I get an unsolicited message from the number +57 3122517415 where someone pretends to be a girl asking what I want. I say "wait a minute, who are you?" And that person begins making a huge fuzz about I need to respond telling what I want right now. I say hey, relax, I am still trying to figure out who this is from. I search the photo that was sent with Google image search and find nothing. I search the phone number and it does find some old entry that was once on photoprepago but nothing active.
The person gets more and more pushy and angry and then takes my picture from WhatsApp and creates some meme saying this is a pedophile and shit like that. And threatens to have all "her" friends put it out on social media, etc.
Since I didn't do anything wrong, I don't have anything to panic. But I do wonder if I should go to a police place tomorrow and show them the conversation and denounce that number? The number is registered to someone. On the other hand, I wonder if that is even necessary, since this threat is probably just an empty threat just to see if I can be baited to send money (and then again and again and again). So what I did was declare that that is all a lie and I will report that to police, and out of principle never pay a blackmailer.
I thought you should know. And I wonder if this happened to anyone of you guys? One could say, perhaps not to use a real profile picture on whatsapp that's used to communicate with these escort numbers. Since I didn't do anything wrong, I don't really mind, but it is weird.
I believe these are all empty threats only designed to get me all wound up and scared, because either I had done something wrong (which I had not) or because perhaps I am one of the many who are trying to hide their interest. I don't really have that problem. So I basically stayed firm and unphazed, believing that they will give up on this scam. However, my experience has been that it is tricky to get such an onslaught of unsolicited messages to stop. People have a lot of time and try a war o attrition on the nerves. Although the messages have stopped for now. I essentially threatened him back saying that what he is doing is a crime and I committed no crime and that I will go to the police to denounce this umber.
I am not sure if I should go to the police, since I don't think they will even do anything nor will it help me even if these people were smarter than they apparently are. In the worst case the police would confiscate my phone and start digging in all my messages. I don't have anything to hide but it would be immensely intrusive and ultimately I think government related people are more dangerous than some morons trying an extortion scam.
But I like to compare notes. Also I suggest you use a picture in your WhatsApp profile that you do not use anywhere else, since with Google image search they might be able to link the picture to you and then they might do more damage. Looks like my enemy here is not that smart. But I will wise up.
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PS: what would be really interesting is to find out what establishment this number 3122517415 has ever been associated with, that way we could all avoid this establishment. It's tricky to do that though because unfortunately the pages are gone from Photoprepago, so one can't use images to make a connection to a set of establishments. I am assuming that this link does not go through an independent escort but from some scam place.
Stinky Squid
08-15-21, 04:45
From my blackmail issue I wanted to give a list of establishments which I find suspect, so I am going to put that list here asking others to see if they had any experience with these places.
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1. A place with a too good to be true? Offer of 2 hours with 4 girls for 40 kCOP.
+57 313 4058329.
https://co.mundosexanuncio.com/prepagos-y-putas/arrecha-cobro-2-horas-40-000-tengo-3-amigas-mas-chapinero-950989
Casa in Chapinero Cra 17 #53-38.
The communication I had with them seemed legit, like they show their place and address in the profile image, it's not a bad neighborhood, they give the detailed rules.
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2. A "Club del Sexo", too good to be true? Rapiditos 30 ML, 1 hour 80 mil, no, that's normal price.
+57 311 5668985.
https://co.mileroticos.com/masajes-eroticos/ven-y-te-chupobesa-verguita-delicioso-3142103954/19980001/
Casa in Chapinero Cra 17 #61 a-33.
Communication has been brief, I received a flyer picture with the address and the price list.
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3. Privilegios, agencia in Antonio Nario, they gave some delicious descriptions.
+57 302 2428475.
https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/antonio-nari%C3%B1o/somos-una-reservada-agencia-con-chicas-totalmente-complacientes-id-wxjau
Casa 2640 CL. 17 Sur, Bogot, Antonio Nario, Bogot.
My inquiry message was received but not replied, and they are supposedly open on weekends, so no reply after several hours is a bit suspect.
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4. Girls 24/7 - legit prices.
+57 311 4474549.
https://co.mundosexanuncio.com/contactos-lesbianas/mamasitas-cuquita-deliciosa-y-jugosita-60-mil-hora-990131
Edificio Gonzales CL 61 #13-44 Chapinero, seems like legit address.
Seems legit and I even messages with one of the chicas directly (under a different pseudonym but same address and same pics).
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5. Casa del Placer Fontibon.
+57 314 3056711.
https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/fontibon/caliente-llenas-de-placer-ninfomanas-fontibon-24-h-nuevo-personal-los-hoteles-apto-video-llamadas-id-h9pmg
Cr 109 bis and 16 j 49, El Carmen, Fontiband, Bogot.
It seems legit, far away, but interesting and I'm smitten by one of the girls despite saggy boobs and a post partum belly.
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6. Agencia Schoolgirls.
+57 310 4868039.
https://co.mundosexanuncio.com/prepagos-y-putas/schoolgirls-agencia-de-lolitas-y-colegialas-de-bogota-1054732
Virtual agency: https://agenciaschoolgirls.com.co/.
This presents all the girls in some school uniform or cheerleader mini skirt, but everyone makes a point that it is all legit over 18 and ID check. I talked with the manager dude to find out which of the ones would fit my requirements, but apparently they all had some restrictions that I didn't want to have so our conversation did not come to a happy ending. We didn't argue, he just said they didn't have that (like deep throating or anal or whatever they didn't want to do.) So that was it. But looks like a legit agency.
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Now, for full disclosure, while I do like the younglings, everything is always above board -- e. G. , once I was in a restaurant for dinner with a young Venezolana from SA who then turned out to be 17 and a half years old. Needless to say, that had been the end of any after dinner activities for me. I don't have any evidence that with any of these agencies there is anything going on the wrong. Hence I don't have any wrong doing to worry about with this blackmailing (which messages have stopped for over an hour now).
I would like our fellow compatriots to compare notes if they suspect anything with these casas / agencies I have listed. Especially I'd be interested if someone knows that place in Fontibon, as I am resolved to take the long drive over these to check them out. But if you guys already know it's a trap, then I'll get that out of my mind.
Mojo Bandit
08-15-21, 04:47
. Although the messages have stopped for now. I essentially threatened him back saying that what he is doing is a crime and I committed no crime and that I will go to the police to denounce this umber.
I am not sure if I should go to the police, since I don't think they will even do anything nor will it help me even if these people were smarter than they apparently are. In the worst case the police would confiscate my phone and start digging in all my messages. I don't have anything to hide but it would be immensely intrusive and ultimately I think government related people are more dangerous than some morons trying an extortion scam.
I think these assholes that do this kind of shit are some of the lowest forms of life and I would consider going to the police if there was any chance they might get into some trouble, I would at least stop in and talk to the police, don't Colombians have to register an ID to get a SIM? I suppose on the one hand they could always say the phone was stolen, but I should think the police could get creative and figure out if that was true or not.
Rainy night-- lightened up a lot by 8 -.
I went out about 8:30 streets were so-so-- and I went to Atonis -- was pretty average--15 girls, a few hotties.
Walked down to Venus was better I went upstairs with a girl I know from before. I went to have a coffee after that and was going to leave but the girls in the street got me going again.
I ended up going back to Atonis about 10:30, there were more girls and I ended up hooking up with a very hot Venezolana. When we got upstairs I felt like I wish I had waited as there was a whole squad of hot girls in the make-up room getting there warpaint on. Looked like they had just got there. There were about 8 fresh girls-- Now I must go back to and find a few of those.
So here is a strange thing. I have been contacting some prepagos, and suddenly I get an unsolicited message from the number +57 3122517415 where someone pretends to be a girl asking what I want. I say "wait a minute, who are you?" And that person begins making a huge fuzz about I need to respond telling what I want right now. I say hey, relax, I am still trying to figure out who this is from. I search the photo that was sent with Google image search and find nothing. I search the phone number and it does find some old entry that was once on photoprepago but nothing active.
The person gets more and more pushy and angry and then takes my picture from WhatsApp and creates some meme saying this is a pedophile and shit like that. And threatens to have all "her" friends put it out on social media, etc........I find it strange that there was no request for money.
I was out in Santa Fe from 7 to 11. Streets were pretty fair--Not bad.
Went to Venus, Troya, Atonis and Fiebre, Texas, and California-.
I love that I can walk into clubs and just walk out if I feel like it and there is no cover. I read on MDE board they are paying covers to clubs-.
Venus was not as good as last week, about 12 girls some pretty hot and no sex show-- I suppose because it was not as busy?
Troya had about 30+ girls 10+ were above average a few really super hot..I was in Santa Fe last night and the cops basically shut down the area at 1 AM. If you were in a club, you could stay, but you couldn't get back in if you left. They were telling everyone in the street to go home. The enforcement was a bit lax though, since people were gathering in the side streets and workers from the clubs were trying to sneak people into the clubs, a few at a time. It was strange situation and I'm not sure what the purpose of this shutdown was. But I was able to get into Paisas and pull a really skinny girl from there before calling it a night.
Prior to the late night shutdown, I visited Troya, Fiebres, Atones. All the clubs were pretty busy but not at pre-pandemic levels for a Saturday night. Girls not quite as hot a previous years, but not bad. Almost all seem to be Venezuelans. Troya didn't have any girls I was interested in. Atones had a couple hotties but they were drinking with other guys. Fiebres had several hot girls and I pulled a hot Venezuelan that I hadn't seen before. The normal rate for these girls is 70 K COP room included, but this girl charged me 100 K COP and asked me to buy her a drink on top of that. I didn't care though because she was the hottest girl in there by far. Session was jusk ok as she didn't allow me to all the things I wanted.
Stinky Squid
08-15-21, 18:11
I find it strange that there was no request for money.There was of course a request for money, the initial bait was 200 kCOP, which I believe was set in such a way to sucker guys to just try to get over it that way, since it isn't the world. But of course as these things go, it's a mutual baiting game. If you fold, then they smell blood and try to go for it the next time with double. After all, paying black mailers carries an implicit admission of guilt, or at least the guy knows then that you are weak minded or are, well, blackmailable.
This is why I think I got the problem resolved simply by threatening back police action and pointing out the criminal nature of what they were doing and staying very calm on the basis that I have nothing really to hide. And that also fortified my counter-threat that I would be going to the police.
As usual, predators are picking easy prey. And I am sure that dude had a dozen prospects on the hook.
P.S.: you can also usually tell how dumb these guys are, because his threat that he had a friend at "the embassy". Like how exactly is that supposed to scare me?
I find it strange that there was no request for money.I find it strange he engaged in a conversation rather than instantly blocking a random number.
I went to the location marked SWers (02-16-2019) on World Travel 69's map at Calle 62 and Avenida Caracas yesterday around 11 PM and again today around 1 PM. I did not see any streetwalkers there at those times, though I can certainly believe that it had been a good location to find streetwalkers at some point in time with the many love motels nearby. Maybe early evening would be a better time to try.
Next, I went to Rosquillas 2 at Calle 64 # 15-30. First, I talked to the guy outside who was yelling "Chicas!" I asked him in Spanish if there would any fee if I didn't select any girl. He told me that there was no fee for viewing and no commitment (sin compromiso). I went in, and was asked if I wanted anything to drink. I declined, saying that I was just there for the girls. I saw two girls who were not really my type. Then, I asked how much half an hour would cost. I was told 40 dollars. The answer shocked me. "Dices dolares?" I asked. "Dolares, dolares," he replied in. I said thanks, and immediately got up and left. I wasn't even carrying any dollars. I realize now that I should have asked for a price in pesos before leaving. I think more girls would have come out if I had waited. I thought (wrongly) that I would get better treatment since I spoke Spanish the whole time I was there. 40 dollars or the peso equivalent is rather high for half an hour with the level of talent that I saw, though I probably didn't see all they had to offer.
Does anyone want to join me for a trip to Santa Fe or the Mezzanine?
Mr Enternational
08-15-21, 20:47
So here is a strange thing. I have been contacting some prepagos, and suddenly I get an unsolicited message from the number +57 3122517415 where someone pretends to be a girl asking what I want. I say "wait a minute, who are you?" And that person begins making a huge fuzz about I need to respond telling what I want right now. I say hey, relax, I am still trying to figure out who this is from. I search the photo that was sent with Google image search and find nothing. I search the phone number and it does find some old entry that was once on photoprepago but nothing active.
The person gets more and more pushy and angry and then takes my picture from WhatsApp and creates some meme saying this is a pedophile and shit like that. And threatens to have all "her" friends put it out on social media, etc.I use my dual messenger google number when I contact those sites, and I most definitely do not have my picture up on the profile. I give an unknown two times to say who they are and if they do not then they are blocked. I am not as curious as you as to have to know who it is that I have to tell them to relax and me try to figure it out and do all kinds of searches and shit. Curious people make for easy prey.
Stinky Squid
08-15-21, 21:07
I find it strange he engaged in a conversation rather than instantly blocking a random number.Not strange at all. Once the conversation turned hostile, I followed the rule ". Keep your enemies closer". Since I did make a bunch of contacts, I was thinking it might be some reply that came from a different number, I have seen that happen before. While I was trying to figure out who this was, the dude already started getting pushy and impatient. And the threats came soon. I thought about blocking them, sure, but I still have not and I feel it was better this way. Once I knew this was an enemy and he already was threatening me with my picture, I felt it is best to keep replying firmly (at a slow pace of course, like not getting into a mad message exchange), making counter-threats and see what his next move is rather than having it blocked and not knowing what's going on.
Now, for example, almost a day went by with no further word, this means to me that the spook is over. I would not know that if I had blocked this conversation.
The only time that perhaps I should have blocked was right at the start, unsolicited contacts. Block. Sure that would have avoided the first escalation.
Elvis 2008
08-15-21, 21:19
So here is a strange thing. I have been contacting some prepagos, and suddenly I get an unsolicited message from the number +57 3122517415 where someone pretends to be a girl asking what I want. I say "wait a minute, who are you?" And that person begins making a huge fuzz about I need to respond telling what I want right now. I say hey, relax, I am still trying to figure out who this is from. I search the photo that was sent with Google image search and find nothing. I search the phone number and it does find some old entry that was once on photoprepago but nothing active.
The person gets more and more pushy and angry and then takes my picture from WhatsApp and creates some meme saying this is a pedophile and shit like that. And threatens to have all "her" friends put it out on social media, etc.
Since I didn't do anything wrong, I don't have anything to panic. But I do wonder if I should go to a police place tomorrow and show them the conversation and denounce that number?Didn't do anything wrong are famous last words in the sex prison, but Latin America is different. When the government declares a war on trafficking or a war on drugs, IMO they are willing to take on benign people and turn them into criminals.
Don't go to the police. That is a waste of time or at worst, they will shake you down. You block and report the number to whatsapp if you are using them and adjust your security settings on social media. If they do post on social media blasting you, you report the poster. If Facebook or Instagram or whomever will not take down the bad post, you delete your account and start a fresh one and then put on enhanced security settings.
A college professor said after getting tenure that he would have to rape the dean's wife in front of the Hallmark catalogue to get fired. He was a foreigner and was laughing at how ridiculous tenure was. I think you could find Colombian women who would say something similar about men being charged and convicted of rape there.
As for the embassy angle, that was a funny one. I actually went through a bit of that with my ex-fiancé. I was pissed at her and fucking with her and told her that I would sue her for breach of contract. She did not know what to do, so she said, "I will go to the embassy and tell them you are threatening me". I laughed and said, "*****, you have already been to the Embassy to check on your fiancé paperwork and they would not let you in. Why would they let you in now?
I would imagine if anyone went to the embassy with a law enforcement concern with an American and did get in (a Herculean task at that), the embassy would be refer things to the local police.
I was in Santa Fe last night and the cops basically shut down the area at 1 AM. If you were in a club, you could stay, but you couldn't get back in if you left. They were telling everyone in the street to go home. The enforcement was a bit lax though, since people were gathering in the side streets and workers from the clubs were trying to sneak people into the clubs, a few at a time. It was strange situation and I'm not sure what the purpose of this shutdown was. But I was able to get into Paisas and pull a really skinny girl from there before calling it a night.
Prior to the late night shutdown, I visited Troya, Fiebres, Atones. All the clubs were pretty busy but not at pre-pandemic levels for a Saturday night. Girls not quite as hot a previous years, but not bad. Almost all seem to be Venezuelans. Troya didn't have any girls I was interested in. Atones had a couple hotties but they were drinking with other guys. Fiebres had several hot girls and I pulled a hot Venezuelan that I hadn't seen before. The normal rate for these girls is 70 K COP room included, but this girl charged me 100 K COP and asked me to buy her a drink on top of that. I didn't care though because she was the hottest girl in there by far. Session was just ok as she didn't allow me to all the things I wanted.Yeah, last night seemed a bit off. Friday was better.
The Police situation is weird, Something new. Maybe there are more cases of covid? One thing for sure being in the crowded clubs will most probably expose you to covid. I had it 2 times. Like Rand Paul I don't need the vax as advised by my Dr.
Hope it goes back to normal.
Not strange at all. Once the conversation turned hostile, I followed the rule ". Keep your enemies closer". Since I did make a bunch of contacts, I was thinking it might be some reply that came from a different number, I have seen that happen before. While I was trying to figure out who this was, the dude already started getting pushy and impatient. And the threats came soon. I thought about blocking them, sure, but I still have not and I feel it was better this way. Once I knew this was an enemy and he already was threatening me with my picture, I felt it is best to keep replying firmly (at a slow pace of course, like not getting into a mad message exchange), making counter-threats and see what his next move is rather than having it blocked and not knowing what's going on.
Now, for example, almost a day went by with no further word, this means to me that the spook is over. I would not know that if I had blocked this conversation.
The only time that perhaps I should have blocked was right at the start, unsolicited contacts. Block. Sure that would have avoided the first escalation.Don't answer an unknown call, then immediately block the number. You don't let yourself get drawn into anything with some character on the street, why do it online when it's even simpler than walking away. You can't be that bored or lonely or needing a dopamine hit from your phone lighting up.
Mechanic88
08-16-21, 04:20
Can someone who's been to Bogota recently let me know about how much time it's taking to go through immigration lately?
Mr Enternational
08-16-21, 07:51
Can someone who's been to Bogota recently let me know about how much time it's taking to go through immigration lately?Can't really answer that question since if depends on a ton of things. How many flights came in right before or at the same time as yours? Where are you sitting in the plane? Are you able to walk fast through the hall and beat everyone else? Can you go to the handicap line? Well that was the arrival immigration. The departure immigration is usually pretty fast.
Mr Enternational
08-16-21, 08:12
Flight got in late so I missed my flight to Barranquilla. Booked Santa Fe Hotel for $21. Took Indriver from the airport to downtown. Meet in the parking lot as usual with the ride shares. 20,000 pesos. I have not paid that low in years. I hope it continues to work out.
Got to Santa Fe at midnight. Saw a guy that was obviously American standing against a building and spoke to him. I think it threw him off a bit. We just happened to be from the same city. We ended up hanging out a few minutes in front of the building then grabbing a bite to eat. While we were in my favorite fast food spot we met another guy that said he was from Bogota. He spoke perfect English. Then we met another Colombiano in the same restaurant, but he did not speak any English. It was 12:55 so she had to close the restaurant up. But people were still coming through in the house door next to it that still leads to the restaurant. That is the way we exited.
There were plenty police around and they had the street blocked off with a vehicle. They started walking down the sidewalk en masse. A guy in normal clothes with a walkie talkie stayed on the corner where I was. He said something into the walkie talkie then I asked him what was going on. He said they had to make sure all everything was closing up. I asked what time they had to close and he said 1am.
The guy I met was about to head back to his hotel and I was about to walk around to see what I could see. Just then we met another American guy that said he was looking for the Santa Fe Hotel. He had not gotten his bearings yet so he did not know where it was. First guy hopped in a taxi and I showed the new guy where the hotel was. I walked back to San Francisco. Tonight was the worst that I have ever seen Santa Fe. It was a ghost town. The guy I met said nothing was going on in the clubs either. And it was also the most police that I have ever seen there. Sure there were at least 100. Way more cops than chicks; I can say that with 100% certainty.
P. S. Every person that I met tonight said how cold it was. And this was not even a cold night from my Bogota experience.
Can someone who's been to Bogota recently let me know about how much time it's taking to go through immigration lately?I got out of the airport about 80 minutes after my flight arrived. I don't have a precise breakdown of how much time I spent getting off the plane, waiting in line at immigration, picking up my luggage, and going through customs.
LatinaLover#1
08-16-21, 13:21
Can't really answer that question since if depends on a ton of things. How many flights came in right before or at the same time as yours? Where are you sitting in the plane? Are you able to walk fast through the hall and beat everyone else? Can you go to the handicap line? Well that was the arrival immigration. The departure immigration is usually pretty fast.The 2 biggest factors are what time of day you arrive, if it's a red eye, not many agents on duty so it will be slow and 2) how many planes landed in front of you. I was pissed one day because we waited for a gate for 10 or 15 minutes or so, in that time 2 big international flights landed and go to imagination right in front of us so we had like 400 people beat us to it. Add in the fact we docked into the last gate in the terminal and as Ed said it was a mile walk to Immigration. So way too many variables to give you an exact answer. I once planed on one of my Fav's to meet me at my hotel, but my flight was late, long lines at immigration, my phone was dead and I arrive 3 hours late for our meet time, ugh! Needless to say she was pissed, waited almost 2 hours in the lobby for me before she left, I paid her the Taxi fare she wasted but was not a happy camper. I never set up a meet at the hotel on arrival day anymore until I get there and call her. So it can be 25/30 minutes or 2 hours, just go with the flow.
Mr Enternational
08-16-21, 13:36
Took Indriver from the airport to downtown. Meet in the parking lot as usual with the ride shares. 20,000 pesos. I have not paid that low in years. I hope it continues to work out.Just when I thought it could not get any better, paid Indriver 16,500 from downtown to the airport. I have not seen these kind of prices since my first times in Colombia 16 years ago.
Prelude141
08-16-21, 15:02
Hi all,
I'm in Bogota and my chica and I will fly to San Andres next week for a few days of relaxation. Do you know what are the covid requirements for flights within the Colombian territories? I'm vaccinated but she is not and if she would be able to fly without a test?
Hi all,
I'm in Bogota and my chica and I will fly to San Andres next week for a few days of relaxation. Do you know what are the covid requirements for flights within the Colombian territories? I'm vaccinated but she is not and if she would be able to fly without a test?There is no testing requirement for entry into Colombia, or for domestic flights within Colombia.
Elvis 2008
08-17-21, 00:25
Hi all,
I'm in Bogota and my chica and I will fly to San Andres next week for a few days of relaxation. Do you know what are the covid requirements for flights within the Colombian territories? I'm vaccinated but she is not and if she would be able to fly without a test?I thought San Andreas may have kept up Covid testing but they have not. Vaccines are now asked about on migracion app, but they are not required.
Your chica can get her first dose of the vaccine at the airport. If you go to the Bogota airport, the first place you come to is International flights for departures. If instead of advancing to the rest of the airport, you turn around, they are doing vaccine in a parking lot a few hundred yards away. It was about a 5 minute walk to there.
I thought that they were only doing Pfizer and Astra Zeneca but they are doing Moderna as well, and that is what my gal got. She is 32 so I think the vaccine is now open to most adults. It would be a good time for her to get vaccinated.
Stinky Squid
08-17-21, 00:49
From my blackmail issue I wanted to give a list of establishments ...
4. Girls 24/7 - legit prices.
+57 311 4474549.
https://co.mundosexanuncio.com/contactos-lesbianas/mamasitas-cuquita-deliciosa-y-jugosita-60-mil-hora-990131
Edificio Gonzales CL 61 #13-44 Chapinero, seems like legit address.
Seems legit and I even messages with one of the chicas directly (under a different pseudonym but same address and same pics).
This place is super convenient for me, I just walk 5 min and I'm there.
Ideally you make a specific reservation with the girl you want. If not, you end up getting a sub-optimal selection of whoever is left over.
You enter the hallway from the street, and end up at a locked glass door. The guy or a girl will notice your arrival and ask what you want, say you want chicas. Then they ask if you have a specific room number.
It's quite an interesting setup. I thought it was some Hotel thing where you get your room for an hour and then you select the girl to come to your room, but no, you actually do it in the girl's living quarters, a little studio apartment with windowless bedroom small bathroom with shower and even a kitchen. So they actually live there 24 x7 and are available between 8 am and 4 am.
When I came I didn't have a specific reservation despite having talked with them and one girl directly. They never told me to make an appointment. I had two I wanted to try, in fact, together. But the one was not very clear about her availability. So at first, when I arrived with no clear reservation, I waited about 5 min, while 2 or 3 other dudes went right past me going upstairs with reservation. Then an older over 30 year old a bit heavy woman came down and I went up with her, thinking I would be shown a room and then see the line-up. But she brought me straight to her room. So I said no, no I wanted to see some specific girls, OK I'll come back with a reservation. I went down again and told them this, and they said OK you want X and I said yes, alright just hang in there go up to 4th floor. So I did. There was some type of parade room where I shook hands with a few, all but one I would take a pass on. But since I had a specific pick, they told me to just sit down and wait a moment.
I probably waited for less than 10 min. During that time I got to observe a little how this works. Most of the girls that were in that lineup room already left, except for one who kept standing before me. But I didn't want her. After a while she too took leave, politely even. Another one with lots of tattoos even on her neck, was all naked walking in and out from what looked some community kitchen through that lineup room and into the hallway and back, and she had a horribly loud voice. Ugh.
So then came my pick and smiled and we shook hands and she led me to her room right next door. As usual not really clearly comparable with the pictures but recognizable and actually nice. We had some friendly conversation to break the ice. I said what I wanted, oral al natural in addition. OK. Now interesting was that she thought for a moment what she would charge me extra. Her hour is only 50 kCOP, pretty amazing. So she asked 20 extra. OK, so it was agreed. But I was super pleased to see that she did not even try gesturing let alone asking for the money upfront. A huge plus in my book.
She was really nice, and we hit it off pleasantly. Kissing was decent. I could have taken more, but I didn't quite like her taste (and it is a little busy and somewhat seedy smelling place. Though the smell might also com from the cooking activity which takes place as they live there. I brought a chocolate bar just for this purpose though, so I offered her chocolate which she accepted. So we continued on. Conversing and touching and it was nice flowing. Then she started sucking me decently, and then I said, OK, let's do the condom thing and do some vaginal. And to my pleasant surprise she continued to be really connected the whole time I was in missionary over her, which actually has become my favorite position if I have some connection with the girl. She didn't turn her face away from me, so it was good. Quite intense actually. But then I went back to oral because I hate condoms. She worked me ok, sometimes wanted to stop, but I encouraged her on. And then when I almost came there was a misunderstanding where finishing orally was not clearly agreed. So I said, how much you want then? And usually I hate negotiating money during the act, but the cute thing was she didn't know what to even ask for it. So I said OK, so let's top off your 20 extra to make it 50, I said this is probably not the first time you are doing this. Alright, she agreed. So I held her firm to stop the interruptions and voila, the deed was done while she almost drowned, and before my last drop I let her get to the bathroom and empty it out.
I slowly got dressed when she came back gave her the 100 kCOP reward, and we continued chatting a little. Had a bottle of water with me, which is good because they don't offer you anything there. I emptied out the liter before I came back to my place to be ready to flush my pipe, applied neomycin + bacitracin ointment on the little man including pushing some up the entry of the pipe, just for some preventative maintenance and stay clean for the next one.
I would say this was a very good experience. It kind-a gives me a kick just how cheap it was and the attitude was top. I will be back at that place to try the other one I wanted, and then both of them together, etc. Really good value for money.
I went to Santa Fe around 3 PM. I found a cute girl walking with her friend. She wanted 50 K plus 10 K for the room for 20 minutes. It seemed a little high to me, but I decided to take it anyway. I was in the middle of requesting that if there were any time left over after cumming, that she help me practice my Spanish when she interrupted with "no, no hay nada" and then she and her friend walked off.
So, I kept looking. I found a cute girl who quoted me 40 K, room included. I was about to seal the deal with her when someone else drove up and parked his car in her area. "Is he your client?" I asked in Spanish. She replied yes, so I said, OK, we can do it later.
I found another cute girl who quoted me 35 K, room included. She explained to me that the knock is supposed to come after 15 minutes so you have 5 minutes to get dressed in the 20 minutes allotted. I set a 15 minute timer on my phone and placed it where both the girl and I could see it. She was very energetic in bed and I came close to the end of the 15 minutes.
I spent some time exploring the area, then I went back to the girl who quoted me 40 K. I wasn't able to cum with her in the allotted time, but the girl put in a good effort.
Mr Enternational
08-17-21, 16:02
I went to Santa Fe around 3 PM. I found a cute girl walking with her friend. She wanted 50 K plus 10 K for the room for 20 minutes. It seemed a little high to me, but I decided to take it anyway. I was in the middle of requesting that if there were any time left over after cumming, that she help me practice my Spanish when she interrupted with "no, no hay nada" and then she and her friend walked off.
So, I kept looking. I found a cute girl who quoted me 40 K, room included. I was about to seal the deal with her when someone else drove up and parked his car in her area. "Is he your client?" I asked in Spanish. She replied yes, so I said, OK, we can do it later.It does not seem like you are shy, but it seems like you need to be more assertive. No lion is going to be feasting on prey then see a hyena off in the distance with his mouth watering and say well I will just let the hyena deal with this carcass and come back later. You were there first. Fuck that other guy.
Make your deal for 10 minutes of Spanish lessons and 20 minutes of fucking. You don't have to add ifs. Chicks quickly forget about ifs. They remember what you told them has to be done.
I found another cute girl who quoted me 35 K, room included. She explained to me that the knock is supposed to come after 15 minutes so you have 5 minutes to get dressed in the 20 minutes allotted. I set a 15 minute timer on my phone and placed it where both the girl and I could see it.Again, be more assertive. Chick in Tijuana tried that shit with me. I said bich I can get dressed in the hall. I paid for this room to do some fucking in and I plan on using every minute of it for doing just that.
Faulty logic on someone's part if that happened to be the case, because you supposedly paid the girl for 20 minutes of fucking and paid the room for 20 minutes, but you would really only be alloted 15 minutes of fucking the girl if quitting time was supposed to be at the knock. So shame on the person that accepts that BS.
Flight arrived at 11:00. A breeze through passport control. Then the struggle to find an ATM machine that worked and accepted my back card. The ones downstairs do not work (in fact the Servibanca one wound up charging my account 300 USD but not giving me any money. I didn't discover this until the next day when I check my account on line. Now I am battling with these A**holes to refund my money. But that's my history with ATM machines.) so I went upstairs and the second machine worked just fine. Took a taxi to my hotel, nearby. Ten minutes later I'm back in a taxi heading to Santa Fe. Getting out of the taxi, the first thing that hits you is the powerful smell of weed. It's everywhere. I was dropped at the corner of Atunes and went in. Naked girls everywhere. They were pushing their goodies into the faces of eager young men and having a great time. After a while, I decided to move on. Head to Paisas or someplace. But the doorman wouldn't let me leave. "Policia". I told him that I didn't care about cops, they wouldn't do anything to me. He said, No, but they would do something to us. Ok. That made sense. I stood there for about 20 minutes with the guy on a handheld radio to his compadre outside waiting for the "all clear". While waiting, a pretty girl with perfect English but dressed like she knew how to make you her slave came up to me and we chatted about the problem. She seemed to think this was an everyday thing. She said she was raised in the US and was trying to get back there. She must have an interesting story. No accent at all and total young girl America attitude. Anyway, the crowd at the door was growing. The guy finally lets us go. Outside was another guy telling us to hurry. Once outside I understood what was going on. The Covid curfew was now in effect. It must have been 1:00 or something. This is something I had not read before in the forum. The cops parked vans and used police tape to block off a two or three block square. A guy told me that they do this every night. I do not know if they were handing out fines or what. But cops were everywhere. Not really bothering anyone specifically. Just there. Telling people occasionally to move on, but not really trying. With no clubs open, I walked around trying to find Ms. Right. There were many out. I found myself slightly outside the "safe" zone of Santa Fe, trying to get away from the cops. One strange thing was that there were a number of clearly underage girls dressed to the nines, as if they were going to a party or something. At almost two o'clock in the morning, eating street food and giggling amongst themselves. They looked about ten years old. I could not understand what they were doing out. Except maybe they lived in the area and since it was Sat. Night decided to go out. Weird. With the cops swarming, I was getting tired of trying to dodge them, so I picked up a spinner I thought would take me to heaven. Made the JV move of not spelling out first what the terms of our contract would be. Should have known better, but it was getting on 2 AM and I had a flight the next day to MDE, so I crossed my fingers and took a chance. I wound up paying for this as the service was awful. Among the worst I have ever had. She kept saying, Come on. Ten minutes. Well, that is a mood buster if ever there was one. She refused to take off her shoes. Ever try to "do it" with that impediment? I paid too much and got very little in return. As is always the case, after leaving that disappointment back at the love shack, I walked by 2 or 3 who I would have much preferred to spend time with. So, to sum up the experience: I never felt in danger or anything while walking around Santa Fe at 1 or 2 in the morning. Note that the zone is shut down at 1:00 AM, but there are still SW lining the outside streets. Obviously, better to arrive in the evening, but fun can still be had late at night. Taxis are plentiful when its time to make your exit. Next report in the MDE section.
JohnnyWalker55
08-17-21, 18:01
It does not seem like you are shy, but it seems like you need to be more assertive. No lion is going to be feasting on prey then see a hyena off in the distance with his mouth watering and say well I will just let the hyena deal with this carcass and come back later. You were there first. Fuck that other guy.
Make your deal for 10 minutes of Spanish lessons and 20 minutes of fucking. You don't have to add ifs. Chicks quickly forget about ifs. They remember what you told them has to be done.
Again, be more assertive. Chick in Tijuana tried that shit with me. I said bich I can get dressed in the hall. I paid for this room to do some fucking in and I plan on using every minute of it for doing just that.
Faulty logic on someone's part if that happened to be the case, because you supposedly paid the girl for 20 minutes of fucking and paid the room for 20 minutes, but you would really only be alloted 15 minutes of fucking the girl if quitting time was supposed to be at the knock. So shame on the person that accepts that BS.Onthe money mr. E, totally different culture with vennies / rolas as compared to american chicks. No need for the soft ball smooth talking flirting, they like the assertion and are generally a lot more submissive ime.
Trim, tell the girl you want a 30 minute room, you should pay no more than 50 k room included, less if she isnt that hot.
Get in there like an animal, the spanish will come the more sessions you do. They like being fucked and the small talk will be there after the sex, or just chat up girls on the street in between sessions.
Theyre bored as hell standing there and they like conversation, you don't need to mix lessons and fucking my amigo.
I went to Santa Fe around 3 PM. I found a cute girl walking with her friend. She wanted 50 K plus 10 K for the room for 20 minutes. It seemed a little high to me, but I decided to take it anyway. I was in the middle of requesting that if there were any time left over after cumming, that she help me practice my Spanish when she interrupted with "no, no hay nada" and then she and her friend walked off.
So, I kept looking. I found a cute girl who quoted me 40 K, room included. I was about to seal the deal with her when someone else drove up and parked his car in her area. "Is he your client?" I asked in Spanish. She replied yes, so I said, OK, we can do it later.
I found another cute girl who quoted me 35 K, room included. She explained to me that the knock is supposed to come after 15 minutes so you have 5 minutes to get dressed in the 20 minutes allotted. I set a 15 minute timer on my phone and placed it where both the girl and I could see it. She was very energetic in bed and I came close to the end of the 15 minutes.
I spent some time exploring the area, then I went back to the girl who quoted me 40 K. I wasn't able to cum with her in the allotted time, but the girl put in a good effort.Not here to grill you but you got to her first, you don't have to give your place to someone else, unless you're not into her.
Make your deal for 10 minutes of Spanish lessons and 20 minutes of fucking.I get Spanish lessons for free with my language partners, but I wanted to suggest something to do in the remaining time if I climaxed early (which turns out not to be a problem). Also, I wanted to get some sense of what the girl was like by talking with her, and maybe the girl did me a favor by interrupting me and then walking off. If that's the way she is, I'd rather know before paying.
Again, be more assertive. Chick in Tijuana tried that shit with me. I said bich I can get dressed in the hall. I paid for this room to do some fucking in and I plan on using every minute of it for doing just that.
Faulty logic on someone's part if that happened to be the case, because you supposedly paid the girl for 20 minutes of fucking and paid the room for 20 minutes, but you would really only be alloted 15 minutes of fucking the girl if quitting time was supposed to be at the knock. So shame on the person that accepts that BS.She explained that it was really for 15 minutes before I paid her, so that was the deal we negotiated and she held up her end of it. If I had paid her with the understanding that we were supposed to have sex for 20 minutes, and then we only had sex for 15 minutes, then, yeah, I shouldn't have accepted that (though, what kind of recourse would you have? But I went in with the understanding that we would have sex for 15 minutes and that's what I got.
I suppose I could have tried to negotiate for 20 minutes of sex, but maybe she would have adjusted her price. The other girl I had sex with in Santa Fe gave me the same deal. If I had demanded 20 minutes after agreeing to 15, I would have been in the wrong. Is 35 mil for 20 full minutes of sex normal pricing in Santa Fe? What have you been able to negotiate in Santa Fe?
You were there first. Fuck that other guy.I think I should explain a little more. This was my first time in Santa Fe, so I was kind of unsure about how things worked (I had a general idea from reading this forum, but was unsure about the details) and wanted to bail at the first sign of trouble or lack of enthusiasm on the girl's part. I spent some time talking with her about the details. In particular, I wanted to clarify the early knock at the door thing that several people complained about in this forum. I wrote down what we agreed upon with a pen and then when I looked up she was talking to the driver of the car that pulling up. That's when I asked, "Es tu cliente?
Also, I didn't have a very strong preference since there were other girls available with similar level of attractiveness. The other girl I went to turned out to be better in bed and slightly cheaper.
It does not seem like you are shy, but it seems like you need to be more assertive. No lion is going to be feasting on prey then see a hyena off in the distance with his mouth watering and say well I will just let the hyena deal with this carcass and come back later. You were there first. Fuck that other guy.If we think of ourselves as lions hunting prey, sure, what I did doesn't make sense. But keep in mind that we are paying the girls and much of our bargaining power resides in our willingness to walk away. We are customers. If I had already paid, I would have insisted that we complete the deal. But I hadn't paid, nor had I entered the room, and she seemed more interested in dealing with the other guy, so I just walked away and found someone else who turned out to be better and cheaper (I was able to compare how well they performed because I came back and got her when she was not as busy). From the girl's perspective, if she frequently has more than one man interested in her at the same time, she should raise her prices. I try to avoid showing any particular girl that I see her a "must-have" and that I need to insist.
Again, this was my first time in Santa Fe, so I knew I was not in a strong bargaining position. But I can talk with the girls in Spanish and I can walk away, and I think things went pretty well for me considering that it was my first time. After finding decent-looking girls quoting me 35 K - 40 K for 15 minutes, I found it easier to walk away from girls quoting me 50 K. But I'm sure there is room for improvement and I'm here to learn. I am intrigued by JohnnyWalker55's suggestion that I should be able to get a girl with a 30 minute room for 50 K, room included.
Where is a good place to take a leak in Santa Fe? Do you do it in the bathroom attached to the room after the session? I try to leave as quickly as possible after the knock comes. Should I buy some food at one of the restaurants in the area and use their bathroom?
Where is a good place to take a leak in Santa Fe? Do you do it in the bathroom attached to the room after the session? I try to leave as quickly as possible after the knock comes. Should I buy some food at one of the restaurants in the area and use their bathroom?Alaska Bakery on CL 23 or the Shwarma place.
It does not seem like you are shy, but it seems like you need to be more assertive. No lion is going to be feasting on prey then see a hyena off in the distance with his mouth watering and say well I will just let the hyena deal with this carcass and come back later. You were there first. Fuck that other guy.What are you saying Mr. E?
The girl quotes the price, you haven't agreed yet.
Then another guy shows up and wants to take her. She doesn't seem to object.
I mean, he asked if the guy was her client, she said yes. She didn't say, no I'll go with you.
What's your play then? No, fuck this guy, I was here first, let's go?
And if she says no (and she probably would), then what?
Why stir some shit to fuck a hooker you're not even that interested in?
I don't know, I'd just laugh and walk away. And find someone else in 5-10 minutes.
It's a game to me, not a battle, LOL.
Bango Cheito
08-19-21, 07:38
Never accept the rate. You decline that and it automatically gives you the interbank exchange rate. You must have hit cancel or something, otherwise it goes through normally. I think all the rates are the same, except when they offer you a rate it means they are trying to rip you off.This is close.
What actually happens is that if you decline the conversion the ATM offers you (which is always a ripoff), then the currency will be converted at the rate your bank gives you.
Which is why a Schwab card is so good. They will give you the best rate out of anywhere.
Other banks will usually give you a rate 3% or so off, but YMMV.
What actually happens is that if you decline the conversion the ATM offers you (which is always a ripoff), then the currency will be converted at the rate your bank gives you.Not actually. No single bank sets the rate. I wouldn't trust some of the banks. The system (interbank or whatever you call it) sets the rate.
Which is why a Schwab card is so good. They will give you the best rate out of anywhere.Technically correct. Schwab is good because it gives you a rebate on the ATM fees. It is the best rate because all the rates are the same. I've tested multiple ATMs in multiple countries in multiple cities over the years. All the ATMs gives you virtually the same rate (minus the ATM fees, and if you don't accept the rip-off conversion).
Other banks will usually give you a rate 3% or so off, but YMMV.Only rip-off banks will charge you 3%. That is the foreign exchange fee that numerous banks charge. Always READ the fine print.
Stinky Squid
08-19-21, 22:32
Not actually. No single bank sets the rate. I wouldn't trust some of the banks. The system (interbank or whatever you call it) sets the rate.
Technically correct. Schwab is good because it gives you a rebate on the ATM fees. It is the best rate because all the rates are the same. I've tested multiple ATMs in multiple countries in multiple cities over the years. All the ATMs gives you virtually the same rate (minus the ATM fees, and if you don't accept the rip-off conversion).
Only rip-off banks will charge you 3%. That is the foreign exchange fee that numerous banks charge. Always READ the fine print.Are you sure? I have been twice at Davivienda ATM and every time they were telling me something about 7% fees. It looked scary. I took it anyway. I don't know if they make it sound more scary than it is.
Also, even with my Schwab ATM card, I am not entirely sure they do the fee rebate if the fee comes rolled into a bad exchange rate.
Mr Enternational
08-19-21, 22:41
Are you sure? I have been twice at Davivienda ATM and every time they were telling me something about 7% fees. It looked scary. I took it anyway. I don't know if they make it sound more scary than it is.
Also, even with my Schwab ATM card, I am not entirely sure they do the fee rebate if the fee comes rolled into a bad exchange rate.How could you not be sure? You simply look at your account at the end of the month.
Stinky Squid
08-19-21, 22:44
So I was at my new favorite place again with two of the girls inviting me. I went with the one with the sweet voice. And while being totally ready to meet once again the real person being 2 points below the picture person, there I find a sweet 19 year old Venezolana with a baby face that's different from the picture but so much better, and I'm like "oh shit", I'm falling in love. So the encounter took a turn it wasn't supposed to, with me caring about her. Now Saturday we'll go out to the movies. It's hard being just a client when emotions get in the way. But I love it. I really enjoy my bachelor time in Bogota. Dating, jumped into a GF relationship in the first few weeks, then ended it because it wasn't all that and there was just more to sample. And I thought to just go to pros and otherwise save time (and money) and now I'm taking a pro girl out. Like a save-a-ho simp. Haha. But it's fun. I am playing with this like role-play, doing what feels good, and I'm not taking it all too serious. Now I don't have enough time for work with all these sweet diversions.
It's a game to me, not a battle, LOL.I should have challenged the other guy to a duel.
Stinky Squid
08-19-21, 22:55
How could you not be sure? You simply look at your account at the end of the month.The uncertainty comes from the fact that the ATM rebate is rolled up at the end of the month, and I had 2 ATM withdrawals last month, one from the airport ATM and another from Davivienda. My rebate isn't even 4 USD. I think the Davivienda may not have declared it's fees as fees but as a knock off the exchange rate. The other problem is to know what the exchange rate was at the time and really figure it out. But I don't think I will use Davivienda again because it seems like a rip-off and it might be, especially now that I checked my statement.
Mr Enternational
08-19-21, 23:38
The uncertainty comes from the fact that the ATM rebate is rolled up at the end of the month, and I had 2 ATM withdrawals last month, one from the airport ATM and another from Davivienda. My rebate isn't even 4 USD. I think the Davivienda may not have declared it's fees as fees but as a knock off the exchange rate. The other problem is to know what the exchange rate was at the time and really figure it out. But I don't think I will use Davivienda again because it seems like a rip-off and it might be, especially now that I checked my statement.Dude it is simple. When you get the slip from the machine you look to see how much came out of your account. Divide the 2 to find the exchange rate you got. The machine charges 13,000 pesos. At the rate now that is $3. 35. If it does not mention fees, then it does not charge fees. You can always call Schwab to find out the individual rebates. Davivienda never ripped me off. You are making brain surgery out of it.
Not actually. No single bank sets the rate. I wouldn't trust some of the banks. The system (interbank or whatever you call it) sets the rate.
Technically correct. Schwab is good because it gives you a rebate on the ATM fees. It is the best rate because all the rates are the same. I've tested multiple ATMs in multiple countries in multiple cities over the years. All the ATMs gives you virtually the same rate (minus the ATM fees, and if you don't accept the rip-off conversion).
Only rip-off banks will charge you 3%. That is the foreign exchange fee that numerous banks charge. Always READ the fine print.And I assume you are talking about your home bank. All the Canadian ones charge either 2. 5 or 3. 5 percent for currency exchange. They call it their bank exchange rate, but it is the mid market rate less their 2. 5 or 3. 5 percent.
Don't know about US banks. People swear that Shwab doesn't have this sort of exchange rate. I don't know, and it is not relevant to me as Swab does not offer these brokerage accounts outside the US.
MarquisdeSade1
08-20-21, 04:42
Not actually. No single bank sets the rate. I wouldn't trust some of the banks. The system (interbank or whatever you call it) sets the rate.
Technically correct. Schwab is good because it gives you a rebate on the ATM fees. It is the best rate because all the rates are the same. I've tested multiple ATMs in multiple countries in multiple cities over the years. All the ATMs gives you virtually the same rate (minus the ATM fees, and if you don't accept the rip-off conversion).
Only rip-off banks will charge you 3%. That is the foreign exchange fee that numerous banks charge. Always READ the fine print.Is there an american bank that doesn't charge the 3% on ATM cards? It was my impression that this was a standard fee for all banks.
I mostly use Chase, I'm not a big fan of Mr Diamond, I've used them many yrs, but its time for a divorce, I've seen enough of that scumbag!
I had two bad experiences in Santa Fe just recently. I have also had good experiences in Santa FE, but I want to write about the bad experiences as a warning to others.
I found a Venezuelan named Valeria near the northwest corner of Calle 23 and Carrera 15. She quoted me 40 K for 20 minutes. I asked her if it was OK for me to rub baby oil on her body, and she accepted. I showed her the baby oil while we were outside. However, when I pulled out the baby oil in the room, she wanted 10 K extra. I said I had asked her about this beforehand, and she told me that she hadn't understood me earlier. Which I don't believe. So I wiped off the baby oil on my own body and asked if it was OK to touch her. She still insisted on a tip. This was a mood-killer and we spent more time arguing. 10 K COP is not a lot of money, but I figured that I had enough information at that point to know that I should stop giving her money and look for someone else.
Still angry after the experience, I walked around debating with myself whether I should just go back to my hotel or try again with someone else. A slightly chubby Venezuelan named Katerin at the southeast corner of Calle 24 and Carrera 16 called out to me. She told me 40 K for 30 minutes, which surprised me and seemed like it might be too good to be true. I asked her how many minutes for sex and how many minutes for getting dressed. She said 30 minutes for sex. However, the knock came after 11 minutes. My timer showed 19 minutes remaining. She claimed that it was saying that 19 minutes had passed and I explained that the timer started at 30 and the numbers were dropping towards zero. She asked me if I wanted to pay for another rato, but I said we had agreed on 30 minutes and she wasn't upholding her end of the deal. I said she lied to me when she told me 30 minutes outside. But there's not much recourse in situations like this. What am I going to do, go to the police? I can warn other people, though "Valeria" and "Katerin" can easily change the names they use in Santa Fe and their locations. And, of course, I can avoid them in the future.
Of course, 40 K COP is only about 10 dollars. I know I'm getting worked up over tiny amounts of money. I hate being lied to, even if the amount of money at stake is small. But I guess it would be unrealistic to expect every session to be good. Still, I feel like I made a mistake or several mistakes somewhere. Any suggestions?
I just realized that I should write down the start time and use my phone as a clock rather than a timer in order to avoid the issue I had with Katerin misinterpreting the number, though I think she was still going to stop after 11 minutes in any case.
And I assume you are talking about your home bank. Yes, USA banks.
JonesLover
08-20-21, 14:39
Hi,
In Santa Fe, how dangerous is walking alone during the day and at night?
I will always walk alone.
Thanks for the news.
Not actually. No single bank sets the rate. I wouldn't trust some of the banks. The system (interbank or whatever you call it) sets the rate.
Technically correct. Schwab is good because it gives you a rebate on the ATM fees. It is the best rate because all the rates are the same. I've tested multiple ATMs in multiple countries in multiple cities over the years. All the ATMs gives you virtually the same rate (minus the ATM fees, and if you don't accept the rip-off conversion).
Only rip-off banks will charge you 3%. That is the foreign exchange fee that numerous banks charge. Always READ the fine print.There is so much misinformation spread around by people who to my incredible surprise are able to actually operate an ATM (cajero).
Here are the facts:
1. The bank doesn't set the rate. Not your bank and not the foreign bank either. Visa establishes the exchange rate around midnight for the next day. That rate is what you will get. (Unless you accept the "Bank conversion rate" or some such similar named item.
2. Your bank back home may charge you fees. The bank you are getting your money from may charge you fees. This is why you get a Schwab card. They don't charge fees for withdrawals AND they reimburse you for any fees the foreign bank charges. Those charges are always stated. BanColombia will charge you a 20 mil fee for using their ATM. BBVA, Davienda, Colpatria and Banc Pinchinata don't charge a fee.
3. The foreign bank doesn't dink you on the exchange rate. Visa sets the rate you will get the same rate at which ever bank you use unless they charge a fee (which will be explicitly defined).
In summary, everything GreenBud said is exactly correct.
I had two bad experiences in Santa Fe just recently. I have also had good experiences in Santa FE, but I want to write about the bad experiences as a warning to others.
I found a Venezuelan named Valeria near the northwest corner of Calle 23 and Carrera 15. She quoted me 40 K for 20 minutes. I asked her if it was OK for me to rub baby oil on her body, and she accepted. I showed her the baby oil while we were outside. However, when I pulled out the baby oil in the room, she wanted 10 K extra. I said I had asked her about this beforehand, and she told me that she hadn't understood me earlier. Which I don't believe. So I wiped off the baby oil on my own body and asked if it was OK to touch her. She still insisted on a tip. This was a mood-killer and we spent more time arguing. 10 K COP is not a lot of money, but I figured that I had enough information at that point to know that I should stop giving her money and look for someone else.The biggest mistake I see, in my opinion, is not going back to your hotel after the first session. You were already in a negative frame of mind, which made you more likely to react to another negative experience.
I don't know how well you speak Spanish, but if you have special requests, like the baby oil, you might want to learn a detailed sales pitch, so you can be absolutely certain everything is understood before heading to the room.
If it was me, I would expect an added charge for any uncommon request. First, it's obviously somewhat important to you, otherwise you wouldn't be carrying around a bottle of baby oil. If it's important to you, she has some leverage. Second, does your request require more time, effort or risk on her part? If so, it's reasonable she would want extra. Whether you put baby oil on her, or on yourself, it's still going to end up on her. She'll need to spend at least a few extra seconds washing it off. Then there's the problem with baby oil on the sheets, towels, maybe on her clothes, or in her hair.
If you had taken that into consideration and expected to pay a bit extra you could have had a good session and avoided the second frustrating encounter.
The second session I can't help much with. Whoever runs the short time rooms probably sets the time. The quicker they get you out, the more money they make. Perhaps, in the future, talk to the person at the desk before going to the room and clarify with them how long you will have.
Another of my opinions is that telling a working girl she lied won't ever be helpful. I've been down that road before. The best you can do is just walk away and go get yourself in a better frame of mind.
Hi,
In Santa Fe, how dangerous is walking alone during the day and at night?
I will always walk alone.
Thanks for the news.Much of the answer depends on you. If you're walking around looking completely lost, or gawking at everything, like it's your first time in a city, you're a more obvious target. If you have your nose buried in your phone, trying to figure out where you are, you're a more obvious target.
Daytime, if you're paying attention and walking with purpose, you should be fine. Stick to the streets where the people are. Same thing at night. Don't stray into the empty streets and be aware of your surroundings.
Suggest you directly contact the owner of the apartment through the AirBnB website and ask directly if he / his building is "guest-friendly". The apartment in which I stay in Chapinero is chica-friendly; but, they do need to have a government-issued ID and present it to security at the front desk (yes, even when I am escorting them in) to be entered into the visitor's log before being granted access to the building.Any chance of disclosing the name of the apartment and link to booking info please?
Is there an american bank that doesn't charge the 3% on ATM cards? It was my impression that this was a standard fee for all banks.
I mostly use Chase, I'm not a big fan of Mr Diamond, I've used them many yrs, but its time for a divorce, I've seen enough of that scumbag!Most big banks charge a 3% fee. In the meantime, smaller banks and credit unions charge 1% or sometimes even reimburse you for local ATM fees. As has been said zillion times before, Schwab not only that doesn't charge the fee but reimburses you for the local ATM fees. Then there are online banks like Cap One 360 with no fees, but it won't reimburse. There is also Aspiration that does reimburse, but still charges 1%. There are options out there.
LatinaLover#1
08-20-21, 21:20
Hi,
In Santa Fe, how dangerous is walking alone during the day and at night?
I will always walk alone.
Thanks for the news.No one in my novias family goes anywhere alone, always with her mother and brother, and never at night. I know of so many nightmare experiences from friends and It can happen anywhere at any time. The best way to ruin a trip is getting mugged, beat up or worse. Take an Uber or taxi it's not that expensive and it will be the best 7000 pesos you ever spent.
The biggest mistake I see, in my opinion, is not going back to your hotel after the first session. You were already in a negative frame of mind, which made you more likely to react to another negative experience.
I don't know how well you speak Spanish, but if you have special requests, like the baby oil, you might want to learn a detailed sales pitch, so you can be absolutely certain everything is understood before heading to the room.
If it was me, I would expect an added charge for any uncommon request. First, it's obviously somewhat important to you, otherwise you wouldn't be carrying around a bottle of baby oil. If it's important to you, she has some leverage. Second, does your request require more time, effort or risk on her part? If so, it's reasonable she would want extra. Whether you put baby oil on her, or on yourself, it's still going to end up on her. She'll need to spend at least a few extra seconds washing it off. Then there's the problem with baby oil on the sheets, towels, maybe on her clothes, or in her hair.
If you had taken that into consideration and expected to pay a bit extra you could have had a good session and avoided the second frustrating encounter.
The second session I can't help much with. Whoever runs the short time rooms probably sets the time. The quicker they get you out, the more money they make. Perhaps, in the future, talk to the person at the desk before going to the room and clarify with them how long you will have.
Another of my opinions is that telling a working girl she lied won't ever be helpful. I've been down that road before. The best you can do is just walk away and go get yourself in a better frame of mind.I also had a bad session with a Colombian last night. Most sessions with the rare Colombians have been pretty good, but I ran into a bad apple at Troya. She wanted 100 K COP and I countered with 80 and she agreed. Of course she never gave me the 20 K change. Then 1 minute into the session, she was asking me to extend the session to 1 hour, which of course I declined. Two minutes into it she said I could touch her pussy for 20 K extra and offered BBJ for another 20 K extra. Not even sure if she was going to do it even if I tipped her. We discussed what she would be willing to do before going up but she flat out lied. After about 5 minutes of attempted upselling I just wasn't in the mood, and called it quits. So 100 K COP for 5 minutes of listening to upsell pitches, jajaja. The good thing is that with the exchange rate as it is, 100 K COP is about $25, so not a huge loss.
On the upside, I later pulled another tall thin Columbiana from Fiebres who spoke pretty good English and had probably the best and most freakiest session of my life. After the first 20 minutes, I had no problem paying another 100 K COP for another 25 minutes. I had my fingers inside all three holes and her tongue deep down my throat, among other positions. She even allowed me to give her ATM with my fingers, jajaja. I almost felt like she was enjoying it too, but probably just deceiving myself. Don't expect this kind of service from every girl as this type of girl is rare. With tip I paid 250 K COP, but would have had no problem paying twice or three times that.
I've heard someone mention that mongering is a contact sport. Things are going to happen, just learn from them and move on without making a big deal of it. It's hit and miss with these girls, but the ones that provide bad service don't get repeat business from me.
I will say Fiebres and Troya are back up to pre-pandemic levels with quality of girls as there were about 10 girls that I'd classify as 8 or above in Fiebres. The amount of guys there is a bit less as I could always find a seat if I wanted to, which is a good thing from my perspective. Pre-pandemic Fiebres was standing room only almost every night. The cops come every night now around 1 AM and they clear the streets and force people either into a club, or to the side streets. I still haven't figured out the purpose of this, just seems stupid. They came into Troya and starting asking people to give them their phone numbers, not sure what that was about.
Went to Lidos and Mezzine in the north a couple days ago and plan to write a report later, but just wanted to mention that you can pretty much get the same thing as Lidos in Santa Fe for 1/10 the price. No reason to go to the North clubs.
No one in my novias family goes anywhere alone, always with her mother and brother, and never at night. I know of so many nightmare experiences from friends and It can happen anywhere at any time. The best way to ruin a trip is getting mugged, beat up or worse. Take an Uber or taxi it's not that expensive and it will be the best 7000 pesos you ever spent.I've been walking around Santa Fe at night for years and nothing has happened to me yet. But it could just be dumb luck that's about to run out. A lot of cab drivers warn me not to go there because they say it's extremely dangerous. I'm just prepared if I get mugged and losing the $150 US I have on my isn't a big deal, since I keep my credit cards in the hotel safe and have hidden money on me to get a cab ride back to the hotel if necessary.
I haven't really noticed an increase is danger in the Santa Fe area, but I have noticed a large increase in unemployed people in the city. There are dozens of shoe shine guys in rich el retiro area, where previously I would only see a few. You're constantly being harassed by people trying to sell you things like watches and belts. In Santa Fe, the touts have become more aggressive trying to pull you into their clubs, where they will follow you and try to get you to immediately buy a drink to get their cut. But I just leave if I don't say anything I like and tell them maybe later.
Every club has it's pros and cons. In Faces Dos in Medellin, the girls stripping on stage will come and ask you for a tip every ten minutes. This is annoying enough that it often pushes me to other clubs to avoid this harassment. In Santa Fe it's the touts that are the constant harassment you can't avoid. And each club has like 3 of these guys. The only club that doesn't have touts is Fiebres, since everyone knows it's the place to go and they don't need them.
A little off topic from the original post, but one thing I thing I've learned from these one week trips is that I should probably visit multiple cities instead of staying in one place all week.
Going to same clubs every night and pulling lots of girls each night just gives a creepy rich American vibe, although the girls will always be willing to accept your dinero. I've pulled 3 girls from Fiebres on the same night before, one after the other, since the girls there are just so hot and it's just so cheap (for a gringo). But you'll get looks from the staff that assigns the rooms that say, oh not you again. There is also jealousy among the wait staff since they probably can't afford one girl a month, let alone several per night, although some of them probably get it for free.
Santa Fe is really the best bang for your buck, and I just can't stand the bait and switch and flakiness of the online escorts, so I'll keep coming here. Flights between cities in Colombia are cheap, so next trip I'll probably visit multiple cities including Bogota, Medellin, and Cartagena. Cali and Santa Marta are on the to do list.
ArmnHammer69
08-20-21, 23:16
Hi guys,
Looking for the nicest guest friendly places to stay while in Bogotá and Medellin. I've been.
To both a few times definitely want to hit up Santa Fe for troya, paisas and my favourite fiebre. What is the current situation are clubs closing early still and doors closed sneaking you in?
JonesLover
08-20-21, 23:18
In September I will be in Colombia.
I have thought many times whether to stay in Bogota for a few days or in another city. I had thought of renting an apartment in Santa Fe, but reading your posts I'm afraid I will have a big and resounding disappointment. I DON'T like PROs. I gladly accept the semi-pros, but only the ones that give girlfriendly experiences, but not for 15 minutes or 30 minutes. At least I would like to spend at least 2 hours with her and if I like her I will call her again the next days.
It seems to me that everyone is pro in Santa Fe. You all always talk about bargaining and about money before fucking. This would be my killer, my horror.
My question is:
But is it easy or hard to find sweet semi pro girls who give girlfriendly experiences in Santa Fe? This is important for me.
If you tell me that Santa Fe is a den of pros, I won't even set foot there and go to another city.
Can you explain to me better what I am getting into in Santa Fe. I speak fluent Spanish and a few years ago I went to Medellin. Beautiful city of eternal spring, but the girls I met were tired. Uffffff.
Anyone who is an expert on Colombia, can you give me some advice where to go without spending high bucks?
Thanks.
In September I will be in Colombia.
I have thought many times whether to stay in Bogota for a few days or in another city. I had thought of renting an apartment in Santa Fe, but reading your posts I'm afraid I will have a big and resounding disappointment. I DON'T like PROs. I gladly accept the semi-pros, but only the ones that give girlfriendly experiences, but not for 15 minutes or 30 minutes. At least I would like to spend at least 2 hours with her and if I like her I will call her again the next days.
It seems to me that everyone is pro in Santa Fe. You all always talk about bargaining and about money before fucking. This would be my killer, my horror.
My question is:
But is it easy or hard to find sweet semi pro girls who give girlfriendly experiences in Santa Fe? This is important for me.
If you tell me that Santa Fe is a den of pros, I won't even set foot there and go to another city..Santa Fe in Bogota and El Centro in Medellin are going to be similar, other than the weather. Others have said they have found what you're looking for in those places. They've also said it takes time and there are going to be disappointments.
The girls working there are pros. I'm always a bit confused about what someone means when they talk about semi-pros. It's like being semi-pregnant. Either she accepts money for sex, or she doesn't.
I have heard the explanation that semi-pros are just part-time pros, or they're pros who work another job. If that's the definition you use, you can go anywhere in Bogota or Medellin and try your luck. You should be able to find some in the stores that sell cheap clothes, cheap perfume or even cheap meals. Just chat them up, tell them you're looking for a companion and see who bites.
In Medellin I use Facebook to find what you're looking for. I don't consider them to be semi-pros, but the typical experience for me is what you described. Prices run from 150 k-250 k or more, but most I've found will hang around for an hour or two.
You will want to discuss a price beforehand. If not you're likely to have problems.
NRandom940
08-21-21, 15:57
In September I will be in Colombia.
I have thought many times whether to stay in Bogota for a few days or in another city. I had thought of renting an apartment in Santa Fe, but reading your posts I'm afraid I will have a big and resounding disappointment. I DON'T like PROs. I gladly accept the semi-pros, but only the ones that give girlfriendly experiences, but not for 15 minutes or 30 minutes. At least I would like to spend at least 2 hours with her and if I like her I will call her again the next days.
It seems to me that everyone is pro in Santa Fe. You all always talk about bargaining and about money before fucking. This would be my killer, my horror.
My question is:
But is it easy or hard to find sweet semi pro girls who give girlfriendly experiences in Santa Fe? This is important for me.
If you tell me that Santa Fe is a den of pros, I won't even set foot there and go to another city.
Can you explain to me better what I am getting into in Santa Fe. I speak fluent Spanish and a few years ago I went to Medellin. Beautiful city of eternal spring, but the girls I met were tired. Uffffff.
Anyone who is an expert on Colombia, can you give me some advice where to go without spending high bucks?
Thanks.Then stay in Chapinero. Semi-pro?
Not sure exactly how "girlfriend" like you're looking for. But maybe try the sites like Skokka.com and Mileroticos.com. They're still mostly pros but maybe cleaner than streetwalkers.
The Tall Man
08-21-21, 16:59
But is it easy or hard to find sweet semi pro girls who give girlfriendly experiences in Santa Fe? This is important for me.
If you tell me that Santa Fe is a den of pros, I won't even set foot there and go to another city..Possible? Yes but finding the gem in the rough in a place like SF requires times and effort which is difficult for guys who come into town for a few days to a week.
My taste has always been for the sweet semi pro chicas with GFE and when I find them I hang onto them. I have a few here in Medellin where I live and they blow away any 98% of the girls.
The Tall Man.
In September I will be in Colombia.
I have thought many times whether to stay in Bogota for a few days or in another city. I had thought of renting an apartment in Santa Fe, but reading your posts I'm afraid I will have a big and resounding disappointment. I DON'T like PROs. I gladly accept the semi-pros, but only the ones that give girlfriendly experiences, but not for 15 minutes or 30 minutes. At least I would like to spend at least 2 hours with her and if I like her I will call her again the next days.
It seems to me that everyone is pro in Santa Fe. You all always talk about bargaining and about money before fucking. This would be my killer, my horror.
My question is:
But is it easy or hard to find sweet semi pro girls who give girlfriendly experiences in Santa Fe? This is important for me.
If you tell me that Santa Fe is a den of pros, I won't even set foot there and go to another city.
Can you explain to me better what I am getting into in Santa Fe. I speak fluent Spanish and a few years ago I went to Medellin. Beautiful city of eternal spring, but the girls I met were tired. Uffffff.
Anyone who is an expert on Colombia, can you give me some advice where to go without spending high bucks?
Thanks.The part of Santa Fe that people talk about here is an area that is designated as a zone of tolerance for prostitution. It is not a residential area. And any woman there is there for sex for money. So by definition professionals.
But there is a lot more to Bogota than that. Not far away there are some very nice areas, apartments, hotels. As for finding non-pros. Good luck.
Cocr Brotheler
08-21-21, 20:29
"Going to same clubs every night and pulling lots of girls each night just gives a creepy rich American vibe, although the girls will always be willing to accept your dinero. I've pulled 3 girls from Fiebres on the same night before, one after the other, since the girls there are just so hot and it's just so cheap (for a gringo). But you'll get looks from the staff that assigns the rooms that say, oh not you again. There is also jealousy among the wait staff since they probably can't afford one girl a month, let alone several per night, although some of them probably get it for free. ".
Man I understand your feeling on this. I brought a chica back to my hotel in La 70 Medellin one night and male staff mocked my "Hola" quite loudly really pissed me off. Yeah it is jealousy. I like to session once with a chica and try and get her contact info. to come back to my hotel or apartmento where there aren't so many eyes on me and in a closed in space. I'm going to Tijuana Hong Kong over LDW and they don't give a shit how many chicas you do.
Is Lavanderia Por Kilos (Calle 22 # 16-63) a good place to do laundry?
Hi guys,
Looking for the nicest guest friendly places to stay while in Bogot and Medellin. I've been.
To both a few times definitely want to hit up Santa Fe for troya, paisas and my favourite fiebre. What is the current situation are clubs closing early still and doors closed sneaking you in?The clubs like Fiebres are open from 6:00 PM to 2:30 AM. Every night for the last couple few nights the police have come at 1 AM and cleared out and blocked off the streets where the clubs are. Fiebres has outdoor cameras and screens where you can observe the streets. The streets outside the clubs are completely empty after the cops have cleared them out. So you get trapped inside the club. For the past week, the clubs would watch for when the coast was clear and let a few people leave at a time. However, no one was allowed to leave Fiebres and we were all stuck there until 4 AM. It sucked. So I would suggest visiting the clubs and leaving when the police arrive. Or go ahead and stay if you don't mind being there until 4 AM.
If anyone has any idea why the police are doing this please let us know. I've tried asking my self but haven't got any good answers, or maybe I just didn't understand. If I had to guess, I would think it has something to do with a covid lockdown.
JonesLover
08-21-21, 22:50
Friends, first of all, thank you for your help.
I must say that Colombia is disappointing me a lot. I am used to Africa where the girls are just plain gorgeous. I am talking about their character because the black of their skin can like it or it cannot like it.
They are kind, sweet and helpful and affectionate. They do everything without asking for anything in return, even if they expect help, but without asking. Then you are the one who gives something to these poor girls.
You tell me there are only prostitutes in Santa Fe? I would say not only in Santa Fe but in every corner of Colombia. You can't talk to a girl without her asking for money.
I talked to about 200 girls on social networks and they all wanted money. A lot of money. As soon as they ask for money, I cut off the communication. Now I don't talk to anyone anymore. I run the risk of being left alone in Colombia.
It is horrible, really horrible. Thinking if a girl touches her tits she wants money, and if you touch her pussy she wants more money.
Maybe it will be that I'm old and I can't stand these things anymore.
Who is the semi-pro? Quickly said: a girl who is doing university and sometimes to pay for her studies or to have fun, has to sell her body. I met students of Medecina and Economics. Smart and affectionate girls. When you are with these girls you love them. I like to fall in love. They are sweet and loving. Nothing to do with the pros who only do that job, they treat you badly and where inside their pussy there is maybe shit.
Two guys also asked me for money on Badoo, when I asked for information about a city. Only a very nice girl refused to meet me and she wanted to be my friend but she didn't ask me for money.
Is Colombia this? It is truly ugly in relationships between people, it is beautiful only in places.
By now I have bought a ticket for Colombia but I am already sorry because I do not know where to go.
Mr Enternational
08-22-21, 04:53
But you'll get looks from the staff that assigns the rooms that say, oh not you again. There is also jealousy among the wait staffThis is really ethnocentric of you. I have never experienced this anywhere in the world; people turning their nose up at you because you are a returning customer? Have you ever worked anywhere and been jealous of your customers? Come on man. Seems like it is just your imagination trying to make you think you are better than they are.
Mr Enternational
08-22-21, 05:53
You all always talk about bargaining and about money before fucking. This would be my killer, my horror.No need for you to come to Colombia if you think you are going to find a chick that fucks for money without discussing the money first. And if she does not, then that is the quickest way to get yourself into a bunch of trouble. Maybe you did not hear about the Secret Service deal in Cartagena some years back. You better be straight on the money issue before you do any fucking or it could really turn out to be your killer, your horror.
Mr Enternational
08-22-21, 05:58
The part of Santa Fe that people talk about here is an area that is designated as a zone of tolerance for prostitution. It is not a residential area. And any woman there is there for sex for money.This is not true. There are salons, stores, and restaurants in Santa Fe. There are also chicks there with their boyfriends. To say that every woman there is a hooker is ridiculous. Even today me and another board member were in the SW area of Chapinero. Chicks were trying to get us to choose a chick. I told them how I liked a certain chick that was actually with a hooker (they looked like sisters) and they told me that the one I liked was not a hooker.
CrowExplorer
08-22-21, 06:21
The cops come every night now around 1 AM and they clear the streets and force people either into a club, or to the side streets. I still haven't figured out the purpose of this, just seems stupid. Just trust the experts! They're keeping us safe / saving lives!
Jajaja just kidding! It's all just "safety theater". I've seen more non-sensical, illogical safety rituals than I can count in the past year.
It's just a natural human response to a threat we can't possibly control.
We create rituals. If less people get sick next week, then "hey, that ritual clearly worked!
If more people get sick next week, then it's "hey, too many selfish individuals didn't participate in our ritual last week, that's why it didn't work!
JonesLover
08-22-21, 06:51
Maybe you did not hear about the Secret Service deal in Cartagena some years back. You better be straight on the money issue before you do any fucking or it could really turn out to be your killer, your horror.Every day I have clearer ideas about Colombia, but I still have some doubts. Do you have to talk about money and then pay even if you fuck a regular girl and not a working girl?
MongerHunger
08-22-21, 09:17
The part of Santa Fe that people talk about here is an area that is designated as a zone of tolerance for prostitution. It is not a residential area. And any woman there is there for sex for money. So by definition professionals.
But there is a lot more to Bogota than that. Not far away there are some very nice areas, apartments, hotels. As for finding non-pros. Good luck.There is more to Santa Fe than meets the eyes. There are residencia buildings right in the heart of Santa Fe, with restaurants, regular businesses and working families. Even a playground where children play.
This is not true. There are salons, stores, and restaurants in Santa Fe. There are also chicks there with their boyfriends. To say that every woman there is a hooker is ridiculous. Even today me and another board member were in the SW area of Chapinero. Chicks were trying to get us to choose a chick. I told them how I liked a certain chick that was actually with a hooker (they looked like sisters) and they told me that the one I liked was not a hooker.I'm talking about the zona de tolerencia only, not the rest of Santa Fe, and certainly not about Chapinero.
Triple Darknes
08-22-21, 15:31
Friends, first of all, thank you for your help.
I must say that Colombia is disappointing me a lot. I am used to Africa where the girls are just plain gorgeous. I am talking about their character because the black of their skin can like it or it cannot like it.
They are kind, sweet and helpful and affectionate. They do everything without asking for anything in return, even if they expect help, but without asking. Then you are the one who gives something to these poor girls.
You tell me there are only prostitutes in Santa Fe? I would say not only in Santa Fe but in every corner of Colombia. You can't talk to a girl without her asking for money.
I talked to about 200 girls on social networks and they all wanted money. A lot of money. As soon as they ask for money, I cut off the communication. Now I don't talk to anyone anymore. I run the risk of being left alone in Colombia.
It is horrible, really horrible. Thinking if a girl touches her tits she wants money, and if you touch her pussy she wants more money.
Maybe it will be that I'm old and I can't stand these things anymore.
Who is the semi-pro? Quickly said: a girl who is doing university and sometimes to pay for her studies or to have fun, has to sell her body. I met students of Medecina and Economics. Smart and affectionate girls. When you are with these girls you love them. I like to fall in love. They are sweet and loving. Nothing to do with the pros who only do that job, they treat you badly and where inside their pussy there is maybe shit.
Two guys also asked me for money on Badoo, when I asked for information about a city. Only a very nice girl refused to meet me and she wanted to be my friend but she didn't ask me for money.
Is Colombia this? It is truly ugly in relationships between people, it is beautiful only in places.
By now I have bought a ticket for Colombia but I am already sorry because I do not know where to go.I have to ask are you white? Colombia has way more tourists and business travelers than almost any country in Africa. I too Love and got spoiled by Africa. But the reason why Africa is so great is because the economies are worse and they get way less tourists. African women are motivated to get you to "love" them because It's quite possible that you're the only monger you'll meet in a while. If you check my DR posts from a year ago you'll see I had the same complaints. I will say I never had a desire to visit any Latin American country personally I literally knew and dated Colombian and Dominican women in the states, I still remember this skinny Dominicana Mariah Carey look a like with a face full of pimples that had the biggest crush on me. So to me a African American girl from the southern states were exotic to me in my heavily immigrant neighborhood in New York. The Only reason I'm here is because I had to go to the states and COVID.
That being said I love the infrastructure and the less stark difference between dirt poor and super rich here. If I was a european monger I wouldn't tell a Africa Monger to fly to Colombia just to monger. But if you think that African or any of these girls actually Love you you're delusional. That being said I'm thinking of taking an exploratory trip to Brazil because a Monger in Cali told me told me that Long Time was standard there like it is in my beloved Africa. I'll let you know.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.
LatinaLover#1
08-22-21, 15:36
Friends, first of all, thank you for your help.
I must say that Colombia is disappointing me a lot. I am used to Africa where the girls are just plain gorgeous. I am talking about their character because the black of their skin can like it or it cannot like it.
They are kind, sweet and helpful and affectionate. They do everything without asking for anything in return, even if they expect help, but without asking. Then you are the one who gives something to these poor girls.
You tell me there are only prostitutes in Santa Fe? I would say not only in Santa Fe but in every corner of Colombia. You can't talk to a girl without her asking for money.
I talked to about 200 girls on social networks and they all wanted money. A lot of money. As soon as they ask for money, I cut off the communication. Now I don't talk to anyone anymore. I run the risk of being left alone in Colombia.
It is horrible, really horrible. Thinking if a girl touches her tits she wants money, and if you touch her pussy she wants more money.
Maybe it will be that I'm old and I can't stand these things anymore.
Who is the semi-pro? Quickly said: a girl who is doing university and sometimes to pay for her studies or to have fun, has to sell her body. I met students of Medecina and Economics. Smart and affectionate girls. When you are with these girls you love them. I like to fall in love. They are sweet and loving. Nothing to do with the pros who only do that job, they treat you badly and where inside their pussy there is maybe shit.
Two guys also asked me for money on Badoo, when I asked for information about a city. Only a very nice girl refused to meet me and she wanted to be my friend but she didn't ask me for money.
Is Colombia this? It is truly ugly in relationships between people, it is beautiful only in places.
By now I have bought a ticket for Colombia but I am already sorry because I do not know where to go.I must disagree with most of what you said. In fact, I think it insulted an entire country. Best you change destinations.
NRandom940
08-22-21, 15:46
Friends, first of all, thank you for your help.
I must say that Colombia is disappointing me a lot. I am used to Africa where the girls are just plain gorgeous. I am talking about their character because the black of their skin can like it or it cannot like it.
They are kind, sweet and helpful and affectionate. They do everything without asking for anything in return, even if they expect help, but without asking. Then you are the one who gives something to these poor girls.
You tell me there are only prostitutes in Santa Fe? I would say not only in Santa Fe but in every corner of Colombia. You can't talk to a girl without her asking for money.
I talked to about 200 girls on social networks and they all wanted money. A lot of money. As soon as they ask for money, I cut off the communication. Now I don't talk to anyone anymore. I run the risk of being left alone in Colombia.
It is horrible, really horrible. Thinking if a girl touches her tits she wants money, and if you touch her pussy she wants more money.
Maybe it will be that I'm old and I can't stand these things anymore.Bogota is paradise for mongering. You can fuck a different supermodel every day for $20 usd. Add another $10 if you want oral natural. I've always just used the websites. I intend to go to Santa Fe clubs at some point but I don't think I'll like it as much as meeting private girls and private spas from the sites.
Sounds like you need too much in terms of a relationship. Swallow your pride and realize that YES the girls are using you for money. But you're also using them for sex. So it's more of a trade. Although there's no need to be cold-blooded about it. I actually find most of them to have good personalities in the short time I'm with them.
Mr Enternational
08-22-21, 16:49
I'm talking about the zona de tolerencia only, not the rest of Santa Fe, and certainly not about Chapinero.There is also a zona de tolerencia in Chapinero. Again, not every woman in these places are hookers as you would have people believe. You even see people (men, women, people with their kids, etc) walking through the tolerance zone in Santa Fe in the morning and evening going back and forth between home and work.
JonesLover
08-22-21, 16:52
I have to ask are you white? Colombia has way more tourists and business travelers than almost any country in Africa. I too Love and got spoiled by Africa. But the reason why Africa is so great is because the economies are worse and they get way less tourists. African women are motivated to get you to "love" them because It's quite possible that you're the only monger you'll meet in a while. If you check my DR posts from a year ago you'll see I had the same complaints. I will say I never had a desire to visit any Latin American country personally I literally knew and dated Colombian and Dominican women in the states, I still remember this skinny Dominicana Mariah Carey look a like with a face full of pimples that had the biggest crush on me. So to me a African American girl from the southern states were exotic to me in my heavily immigrant neighborhood in New York. The Only reason I'm here is because I had to go to the states and COVID.Yes, I am a white European. I am perfectly aware of the behavior of African girls towards white men, because I have been there many times in Africa and I would go there for life! I am only going to Colombia because there is not a single African state open for covid-19.
Until a few years ago I did not like Africa and Africans because I have always preferred white women. But since I've been to Africa for the first time, things have turned upside down. I miss that sweetness and availability of black women.
Brazil is a good country for long-term experiences but. Girls are not so sweet like african girls. Ahahahahaah.
JonesLover
08-22-21, 17:06
I must disagree with most of what you said. In fact, I think it insulted an entire country. Best you change destinations.But I disagree with you. I have never visited a country in the world like Colombia, where people are nice, but not prostitutes or who wants to have sex with you.
I have been to the Philippines and a girl had lost her mind over me talking to her only online. She was getting depressed day by day since I told her I didn't want to meet her. I didn't like that girl because she was too short. She made me promise to only meet me for 10 minutes in a park because she was madly in love with me. I met her and we talked for 30 minutes in the park and saw her very happy and excited.
I have had various stories like this around the world.
I don't think these stories can be repeated in Colombia.
If you just like to fuck, stay in Colombia. But since I'm not only interested in fucking but looking for a romance with the girl, I'll get away as soon as possible from Colombia.
Have a good day.
I had a good experience in Santa Fe last night. After taking a stroll through the area, I found two attractive girls stand-in next to each other on the east side of Carrera 16 between Calle 23 and Calle 24. One quoted me 50 K pesos. I said, "gracias," and requested a price from the other one. She told me 40 K pesos for 15 minutes. I asked whether I should expect the knock at 15 minutes. She said we had to exit the room within 15 minutes. I decided to give her a shot. I asked her if I could ruby baby oil on her body. She said no. I asked why. She said she was afraid there might be something harmful in my baby oil. I said (in Spanish), "that's fine, we can do it without the baby oil. " I confirmed that I could still rub her body without the baby oil. I noted the time and used the clock app on my phone. I was able to come in about 9-10 minutes with her energetic covered blow job. The knock came at about the 11 minute mark.
I would say this was a good experience because the girl was attractive, she made a good effort, I was able to come, and I didn't get into any arguments with her, but the experience was kind of rushed and impersonal. Considering that it was only 40 K pesos, I shouldn't complain, but I feel like this is not exactly what I'm looking for. Maybe I should try longer sessions with the best performers I've identified so far or maybe I should take another shot at the casas in Chapinero. I could also look for girls on various apps.
Has anyone tried paying for the room directly and making a separate payment to the girl instead of letting the girl pay for the room? I'm thinking that interacting with the motel staff directly would help to clarify when the knock is supposed to come. I think if I pay for a longer session, I should insist on doing it that way.
Flight: We left Houston an hour and 20 minutes late. We landed around 10:40 pm. Getting through customs and getting bags was a, landed at 10:40 and in the cab with Pesos (exchange in the airport waiting for bags) by 11:15, but the drive up to Chapinero to drop off bags killed most chances of a fun evening. Got it cause it's a guest friendly AirBnB and nobody watches you come or go.
When I got back just before 1:00, police had roads blocked off and they were clearing the streets. I grabbed a skinny 20 or so year old Venezuelan girl and followed her to her location. Walked in, paid the fee, then it was all upsell and talk about her daughter and needing money yada yada. It was a bit of a buzz kill but it got the job done. Barely. After all the upsell, damage was $250 mil. A little high but the BBBJ & BBFS was a treat. Because I couldn't get into a club and there weren't many girls left in Santa Fe, the taxi driver recommended a place up north. Guessing he gets kickbacks for dropping gringos off. Had a beer, bought the lady a drink. Then I asked how it worked. House fee of 250 mil, 1 hour with the girl at that place - $750 mil. Sooo, around $250 USA Dollars. That surprised me, so I decided to call it a night. I was already exhausted and felt this place was overpriced or I was getting taken advantage of. Asked for the bill for the 2 drinks - 130 mil. What?! LOL. I left and went to the room.
Day 2: Didn't sleep great. Way too much traffic noise and the room was cold. Messaged a handful of girls on mileroticos. Mia from Girls 24/7 responded and headed over. Mía 311xxxx549. She was a nice girl. A little more tattoos than I prefer, but she was my only option.
Showered and caught a cab back to the airport to do the COVID test. Got to the airport at 10:45. Long line and standing outside. And that's where I'm at now. Hour and 20 minutes later and haven't made it through the door. A hotel test would've been nice, but again, at an AirBnB.
NRandom940
08-22-21, 18:10
There is also a zona de tolerencia in Chapinero. Again, not every woman in these places are hookers as you would have people believe. You even see people (men, women, people with their kids, etc) walking through the tolerance zone in Santa Fe in the morning and evening going back and forth between home and work.Is Fiebre Night Club in the tolerance zone?
NRandom940
08-22-21, 20:49
Flight: We left Houston an hour and 20 minutes late. We landed around 10:40 pm. Getting through customs and getting bags was a, landed at 10:40 and in the cab with Pesos (exchange in the airport waiting for bags) by 11:15, but the drive up to Chapinero to drop off bags killed most chances of a fun evening. Got it cause it's a guest friendly AirBnB and nobody watches you come or go.
When I got back just before 1:00, police had roads blocked off and they were clearing the streets. I grabbed a skinny 20 or so year old Venezuelan girl and followed her to her location. Walked in, paid the fee, then it was all upsell and talk about her daughter and needing money yada yada. It was a bit of a buzz kill but it got the job done. Barely. After all the upsell, damage was $250 mil. A little high but the BBBJ & BBFS was a treat. Because I couldn't get into a club and there weren't many girls left in Santa Fe, the taxi driver recommended a place up north. Guessing he gets kickbacks for dropping gringos off. Had a beer, bought the lady a drink. Then I asked how it worked. House fee of 250 mil, 1 hour with the girl at that place - $750 mil. Sooo, around $250 USA Dollars. That surprised me, so I decided to call it a night. I was already exhausted and felt this place was overpriced or I was getting taken advantage of. Asked for the bill for the 2 drinks - 130 mil. What?! LOL. I left and went to the room.
Day 2: Didn't sleep great. Way too much traffic noise and the room was cold. Messaged a handful of girls on mileroticos. Mia from Girls 24/7 responded and headed over. Ma 311xxxx549. She was a nice girl. A little more tattoos than I prefer, but she was my only option.].Covid test at Idime in Chapinero.
50 k for antigen. Got my results in less than 5 hours.
Would you mind sharing the Airbnb you stayed at?
Flight: We left Houston an hour and 20 minutes late. We landed around 10:40 pm. Getting through customs and getting bags was a, landed at 10:40 and in the cab with Pesos (exchange in the airport waiting for bags) by 11:15, but the drive up to Chapinero to drop off bags killed most chances of a fun evening. Got it cause it's a guest friendly AirBnB and nobody watches you come or go.
When I got back just before 1:00, police had roads blocked off and they were clearing the streets. I grabbed a skinny 20 or so year old Venezuelan girl and followed her to her location. Walked in, paid the fee, then it was all upsell and talk about her daughter and needing money yada yada. It was a bit of a buzz kill but it got the job done. Barely. After all the upsell, damage was $250 mil. A little high but the BBBJ & BBFS was a treat. Because I couldn't get into a club and there weren't many girls left in Santa Fe, the taxi driver recommended a place up north. Guessing he gets kickbacks for dropping gringos off. Had a beer, bought the lady a drink. Then I asked how it worked. House fee of 250 mil, 1 hour with the girl at that place - $750 mil. Sooo, around $250 USA Dollars. That surprised me, so I decided to call it a night. I was already exhausted and felt this place was overpriced or I was getting taken advantage of. Asked for the bill for the 2 drinks - 130 mil. What?! LOL. I left and went to the room.
Master Monger
08-23-21, 01:16
Don't overpay.
Most will quote 30,000 to 40,000 for a half hour and DFK is usually free if you ask in advance if not I would move on. BBBJ+BBFS should be around a 30,000 upgrade but you need to tell them you won't come inside. I just realized these girls are not worried about STi's only getting pregnant which makes sense as STI's are more of nuisance than a deterrent from not using a crappy feeling condom. If STI's were dangerous me and about 50 mongers I know personally would be dead after 1000's of girls.
Anyway, I get them to come back to my place on Calle 40 for 1 hour BBBJ and BBFS for 100,000 which is actually a bit expensive considering the average pay of the under educated in Bogota is less than 2,000,000 a month. In essence a streetwalker could make 20 times that amount at that price. All night is harder to negotiate if it is your first time with the girl, you shouldn't even bother but if you like her get her number and offer her 150,000 - 200,000 for all night starting at about midnight. I cherry pick the youngest and best looking girls so don't think that matters! Also, right now I am about 270 lbs so don't think your appearance matters that much as long as your are "very clean" and smell good.
Don't Screw up the market, offer the prices I said and then walk away the next time you see them they will accept.
Happy mongering.
MM.
Mr Enternational
08-23-21, 01:53
But I disagree with you. I have never visited a country in the world like Colombia, where people are nice, but not prostitutes or who wants to have sex with you.
I have been to the Philippines and a girl had lost her mind over me talking to her only online. She was getting depressed day by day since I told her I didn't want to meet her. I didn't like that girl because she was too short. She made me promise to only meet me for 10 minutes in a park because she was madly in love with me. I met her and we talked for 30 minutes in the park and saw her very happy and excited.
I have had various stories like this around the world. I don't think these stories can be repeated in Colombia.Maybe they can't be repeated for you, but I have had stories like this in Colombia for the last 16 years. I do not know what Colombia you have been to or are thinking about going to. You make it seem like people are all cold and stone-faced.
I remember the first time I was on the phone with an ex-girlfriend in Cali. I told her that I was coming to see her. When we said bye she mistakenly did not hang up her phone. I heard her literally screaming with joy. We are still friends and I bring it up to her sometimes. You still have not been clear on what you are looking for. Do you want a hooker to show you love, or look for romance with a normal woman? My lawyer chick in Colombia seemed to be pretty happy after sleeping by my side the other night.
On the hooker side of the game, I wrote a report in the Medellin thread about a hooker that came to see me yesterday morning in Bogota. "All I know is that she came over this morning for a couple of hours for 150,000. She walked through the door, dropped to her knees, and started sucking my dick. Then she asked me if I wanted a massage. Then after the massage she fucked the brakes off of me and went to get a hot washcloth when we finished. Then she came and cuddled up next to me. " I don't know what to tell you man; our experiences of Colombia are night and day.
Mr Enternational
08-23-21, 02:06
the taxi driver recommended a place up north. Guessing he gets kickbacks for dropping gringos off. Had a beer, bought the lady a drink. Then I asked how it worked. House fee of 250 mil, 1 hour with the girl at that place - $750 mil. Sooo, around $250 USA Dollars. That surprised me, so I decided to call it a night. I was already exhausted and felt this place was overpriced or I was getting taken advantage of. Asked for the bill for the 2 drinks - 130 mil. What?!A few tips. 1. Stay away from the North.
2. Always ask for a menu or how much something costs before you go willy nilly ordering things. Me and some friends walked into a cabaret in Nice, France. They immediately ordered drinks while I asked for a menu. The cheapest thing in the menu was water at 35 euro. Their drinks were 40 euro each.
3. If you are going to take advice from a taxi driver then make sure you specify what you are looking for. In 3rd world places, because we are foreigners then they assume we want to go somewhere to spend big money. I make sure to tell taxi drivers to take me to a place they would normally go, not some expensive ripoff bullshit.
Mr Enternational
08-23-21, 02:18
Fucking around with Master Monger yesterday and he took me to a spot where you pay 50K to enter and you get to fuck 4 chicks. The chicks come into the room 1 at a time for 20 minute intervals and you have up to 2 hours to get your 50K worth. We got there at 6:40 yesterday and they close at 8, so the guy only charged me 40K. I immediately grabbed a chick and went into a room. She explained to me how it worked. Kissing mouth, tits, pussy 30K extra. Oral without condom 20K extra. Anal 40K extra. Two girls at one time 50K extra. I went bare bones and did not pay extra for anything.
The first girl (Venezuelan) came in CBJ, Fuck. I told her to send the second girl. I was lazy so only got a back and dick massage from her. I told her to send in the third girl. CBJ, Fuck. She sent in the fourth girl and I just got a handjob from her. Good Times. Happy Days.
Mr Enternational
08-23-21, 02:23
Is Fiebre Night Club in the tolerance zone?Yes. It is in Santa Fe right next to the other fuck clubs: Troya, Paisa, Atunes, Atonis.
Flight: We left Houston an hour and 20 minutes late. We landed around 10:40 pm. Getting through customs and getting bags was a, landed at 10:40 and in the cab with Pesos (exchange in the airport waiting for bags) by 11:15, but the drive up to Chapinero to drop off bags killed most chances of a fun evening. Got it cause it's a guest friendly AirBnB and nobody watches you come or go.
When I got back just before 1:00, police had roads blocked off and they were clearing the streets. I grabbed a skinny 20 or so year old Venezuelan girl and followed her to her location. Walked in, paid the fee, then it was all upsell and talk about her daughter and needing money yada yada. It was a bit of a buzz kill but it got the job done. Barely. After all the upsell, damage was $250 mil. A little high but the BBBJ & BBFS was a treat. Because I couldn't get into a club and there weren't many girls left in Santa Fe, the taxi driver recommended a place up north. Guessing he gets kickbacks for dropping gringos off. Had a beer, bought the lady a drink. Then I asked how it worked. House fee of 250 mil, 1 hour with the girl at that place - $750 mil. Sooo, around $250 USA Dollars. That surprised me, so I decided to call it a night. I was already exhausted and felt this place was overpriced or I was getting taken advantage of. Asked for the bill for the 2 drinks - 130 mil. What?! LOL. I left and went to the room.
Day 2: Didn't sleep great. Way too much traffic noise and the room was cold. Messaged a handful of girls on mileroticos. Mia from Girls 24/7 responded and headed over. Ma 311xxxx549. She was a nice girl. A little more tattoos than I prefer, but she was my only option.There are 2 Covid test sites at the airport in Bogota. Site number 1 is the building across the street from the terminal. That's the busy site with the long line. Site number 2 is in the white tents as you're driving towards the terminal. You can schedule your appointment online. I think I got out of there about 10 minutes after my appointment time. There was a long line waiting for site 1 when I got there and no line for site 2.
https://www.synlab.com/lab/aeropuerto-el-dorado
TopoChico571
08-23-21, 04:20
Fucking around with Master Monger yesterday...Care to name the place and address? Are the extras per chica or pay once and good for all?
Don't overpay.
Most will quote 30,000 to 40,000 for a half hour...Excellent post. Do you pay before or after (and mention this during negotiation)? They seem to have all the leverage and don't give a shit if you pay before.
Anyone think there are better street pickings currently than Bogota in Medellin or other, smaller cities like Ibague, Manizales, Cucuta, Barranquilla, etc.?
Friends, first of all, thank you for your help.
I must say that Colombia is disappointing me a lot. I am used to Africa where the girls are just plain gorgeous. I am talking about their character because the black of their skin can like it or it cannot like it.
They are kind, sweet and helpful and affectionate. They do everything without asking for anything in return, even if they expect help, but without asking. Then you are the one who gives something to these poor girls.I don't know how to explain this to you. People, who perform a service as a means of supporting their family, expect to be paid. If I call a plumber they are going to tell me what the minimum service charge will be. They don't just show up and hope, after doing the work, I will pay them something.
Why would you expect women who sell sex to be different? If they just hope the guys will decide to give them a fair amount of money for their service there would be a lot of starving hookers. If it bothers you that prostitutes expect to be paid, you really need to reconsider your choice to seek out prostitutes.
You tell me there are only prostitutes in Santa Fe? I would say not only in Santa Fe but in every corner of Colombia. You can't talk to a girl without her asking for money.
I talked to about 200 girls on social networks and they all wanted money. A lot of money. As soon as they ask for money, I cut off the communication. Now I don't talk to anyone anymore. I run the risk of being left alone in Colombia.Again, I'm not sure how to explain this. The girls in Santa Fe, who stand around, scantily dressed and smile at the men passing by, are prostitutes. That is what Zeos was talking about. It shouldn't be confusing. Is it common where you're from for women to stand around on the street, wearing only lingerie, and try to get guys to come fuck them for free? If so, can you tell us where that is?
Of course the girls who you are talking to on social media are asking you for money. Why not? If 50 guys contact them on social media, 49 of the guys will never even come to Colombia and at least 25 guys are trying to get them to send free photos and videos. So why not ask? You're probably someone who is just wasting their time. That's not a judgement on you, it's just the reality that most guys are just wasting the girls time.
It is horrible, really horrible. Thinking if a girl touches her tits she wants money, and if you touch her pussy she wants more money.I don't know what Colombia you're talking about. I've never encountered this. I pay the women I see between 150-250 k, they usually stay for well over an hour, often for several hours, and there's no mention of money, once the price has been agreed upon. On rare occasions they won't be interested in much kissing. On rare occasions they will grab the condom before giving a blowjob. However, most of the time it's cuddling, touching, kissing, oral, any position and lots of affection.
Maybe it will be that I'm old and I can't stand these things anymore.
Who is the semi-pro? Quickly said: a girl who is doing university and sometimes to pay for her studies or to have fun, has to sell her body. I met students of Medecina and Economics. Smart and affectionate girls. When you are with these girls you love them. I like to fall in love. They are sweet and loving. Nothing to do with the pros who only do that job, they treat you badly and where inside their pussy there is maybe shit. There's not a single girl in university, anywhere in the world, who needs to sell pussy to complete strangers in order to have fun. Whether or not they need to sell pussy to support their studies is debatable. The key word is "need. " I think In many cases, selling pussy gets them more money for less effort. Why work 30 hours a week when you can make more fucking for 3 hours?
Why does that only apply to university students? Many of the women I've been with in Colombia work some other job, often 2 or 3 jobs. When the opportunity to earn more in an hour than they earn working 4 days, they take it.
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I don't know what women in Colombia you're talking about treating you badly. Most of the girls I've been with have treated me very well. That includes the ones who are complete pros.
Whether they are pros and semi-pros, if they are treating you badly it probably has something to do with you. And the only reason they are being sweet and loving it's because they are doing what is necessary to get paid. Women who fuck strangers for money don't tend to fall in love with every customer. Customers who fall in love with every hooker probably should find a new hobby.
Two guys also asked me for money on Badoo, when I asked for information about a city. Only a very nice girl refused to meet me and she wanted to be my friend but she didn't ask me for money.
Is Colombia this? It is truly ugly in relationships between people, it is beautiful only in places.
By now I have bought a ticket for Colombia but I am already sorry because I do not know where to go.It's amazing how you can be an expert on the people of Colombia, without first meeting the people of Colombia. Colombians are some of the friendliest people in the world. The girls in Colombia are sweet and affectionate. However, since you've already decided what everyone is like, it's unlikely you'll discover that.
The COVID place by the airport ended up taking 2 hours and 15 minutes. Have to have a PCR test, so the quick antigen tests are out the window. Oh well, got it out of the way. Definitely recommend you guys find another place. On a bright note, I just received negative results. About 10 hours after the test.
I went back to my room and reached out to Thalia on mileroticos. I really thought her pics would end up being fakes or touched up or old. Nope. She's a little cutie. Very pretty girl and super nice. She's a tiny Venezuelan girl with a pretty face. BBBJ, DFK, 69, and flipped her and flipped her however I wanted. She wasn't robotic or mechanical at all. It was a great experience. She has a see-section scar (anybody care any that?) but an otherwise flawless figure. Total damage was 260 k for the hour. Did I overpay? Maybe. Totally worth it. See her, you won't regret it.
Tonight I went to the clubs in Santa Fe. It's a Sunday and I got there early, so it was really slow. Don't recommend going at 7:30. Things picked up around 9. I bounced around. Atonis, Paisa, and several others (Venus was closed. Because it's Sunday?) before finding a small Venezuelan girl named Emily in Troya. The most hopping of the clubs, but also the last one I went to. The others probably picked up after I left. Damage for Emily was 100 mil. She gave a half ass BBBJ and then onto some robotic sex. Oh, and before we began, I had to wash my area in freezing cold water in the sink. Went from ready to not ready at all pretty quick. Should've taken her up on the offer of blue pills.
Was tired so called it a night. Then got to the room and decided to message another girl. She's in her way over. Nikol from mileroticos. More on that tomorrow.
AirBnb: it's called Paris loft in the G area. It's hosted by Daniel. There's a keypad entrance through a small gate and a keypad entrance through a door. You walk up the stairs and use a key for the door. Super easy and nobody sees you coming or going. He messaged me that I could have as many guests as I wanted, but could only have one at a time. I honored that request, but it's not like anybody would know if you didn't. The traffic noise isn't great and the mattress isn't exactly a temperpedic, but it's fine with me. It looks identical to the pics. Everything is white and it looks really clean.
But I disagree with you. I have never visited a country in the world like Colombia, where people are nice, but not prostitutes or who wants to have sex with you.
I have been to the Philippines and a girl had lost her mind over me talking to her only online. She was getting depressed day by day since I told her I didn't want to meet her. I didn't like that girl because she was too short. She made me promise to only meet me for 10 minutes in a park because she was madly in love with me. I met her and we talked for 30 minutes in the park and saw her very happy and excited.
I have had various stories like this around the world.
I don't think these stories can be repeated in Colombia.
If you just like to fuck, stay in Colombia. But since I'm not only interested in fucking but looking for a romance with the girl, I'll get away as soon as possible from Colombia.
Have a good day.You honestly believe that a Filipina, before she had met you, fell "madly in love with you?" Seriously? Don't get me wrong. I've had women all over the world tell me they loved me, including several from the Philippines, and I've never been to the Philippines. I just don't believe them.
If your concept of romance is having a woman who doesn't know you tell you she loves you, then you'll love Colombia. There must be 30 women in Colombia who have told me they love me.
If you just like to fuck, stay in Colombia. But since I'm not only interested in fucking but looking for a romance with the girl, I'll get away as soon as possible from Colombia.
Romancing a prostitute, when was the last time it ended well?
I'm probably too thick, but why would anyone want a love affair with a hooker in the first place?
Your notion of every Colombian woman being a prostitute is totally ridiculous. Bogota is a home to 7 million people. There are probably hundreds of thousands "normal" women who would be open to dating a foreigner.
Surely, it's going to take a little longer and cost you more to get down to business.
But if you want love, why not put some work in dating a regular girl in Colombia (or anywhere else for that matter)?
Then again, everyone has a fetish.
JonesLover
08-23-21, 06:17
Your notion of every Colombian woman being a prostitute is totally ridiculous. Bogota is a home to 7 million people. There are probably hundreds of thousands "normal" women who would be open to dating a foreigner.May be my English is so bad, I'm sorry. It is not my native language. I am in a mongering forum and maybe some guy will be offended. But I would never approach a prostitute to have a love story. I never thought this. I mean that I talked to 200 girls from various cities on the Internet and they all asked me for money, even 2 guys. One girl even asked me to send money before I arrived because I was booking it for that week. If you don't believe it, I won't send the conversation with her. I have never said or thought that all Colombian girls are prostitutes. I am referring to the ones I met on the Internet. The ones I spoke to are all prostitutes and I confirm it. I use Badoo, Facebook, Tagged, Mingle2, etc.
But yesterday I met a gem. A wonderful girl from Pereira. She that she will come to see me in Bogota or Medellin.
I am sure she is a regular girl and not a semi-pro.
She is kind, sweet, helpful and cheerful. I talked to her for almost a day. She is a needle in a haystack and I would not want to let her escape.
JonesLover
08-23-21, 06:33
Maybe they can't be repeated for you, but I have had stories like this in Colombia for the last 16 years. I do not know what Colombia you have been to or are thinking about going to. You make it seem like people are all cold and stone-faced.Surely I am doing something wrong, in fact I am behaving like in every other country I have visited. Maybe that's not how it works in Colombia.
Since I will only have 20 completely free days in Colombia, I would like to have at least 2 girlfriendly experiences and so I started talking to girls online. I already have the plane ticket but I still don't know whether to go to Bogota or Medellin. But the ones I met online are all prostitutes. I think the best thing is to meet the girls face to face and talk to them, but that takes time.
However, in the meantime I have already found my girlfriend and do not let me escape. She is delighted to meet me. Maybe she will run away as soon as she meets me because she is 20 and I am almost 3 times older. But she has already seen many dozen of my photos and she told me that I am handsome.
DWodderson
08-23-21, 06:45
I've been with my dime Colombian GF I met on SA several months ago and have 2 hours without her after she flies back to her hometown and I have to catch my flight back to the states at 11 pm. I won't have a hotel, will be solo and will have a carryon bag. I'd love to get some hot strange before I fly out. Fiebre? Prepago website that does incalls? Massage parlor? If you were in my situation and only had 2 hours what would you do? I'm picky about the quality of the girls and also want to get the best bang for my buck. Thanks in advance fellas! I'm a newbie on here but will be posting more in the future!
Has anyone tried paying for the room directly and making a separate payment to the girl instead of letting the girl pay for the room? I'm thinking that interacting with the motel staff directly would help to clarify when the knock is supposed to come. I think if I pay for a longer session, I should insist on doing it that way.That's what I always do in Santa Fe.
Apparently you speak Spanish, so be cool and friendly with the person running the motel, and strike a deal.
15 minutes to me is way too quick.
Posted yesterday that I was still at the airport testing site for an hour and 20 minutes and still no test. It ended up being an hour and 20 minutes. Got there at 10:45, had the test shortly after 1:00. I had read that it had to be a PCR test, but my Delta check-in information says antigen or PCR. Antigen would have been a lot easier. Anyway, got the test knocked out and got the negative results just after 10:00 pm. I uploaded them this morning and cleared to fly back.
Definitely recommend a different testing site. I didn't have anyone come to my room because I'm staying in an AirBnB.
Would you mind sharing the Airbnb you stayed at?Paris loft in the G area.
In the pics, everything is white. White bed, white nightstand, white counters. It's hosted by Daniel. Who is really nice. The bed isn't the nicest and the noise outside is pretty bad. It sounds like I'm sleeping outside next to the road. I turned the radio on and that helped me sleep.
Highly recommend though, cause there is no security person. You enter the user ID and passcode on the keypad and open the gate. Use the user ID and keypad again to get through the door. A room key is left in a bowl in the little room downstairs, you walk up the stairs and the room is on the left. Super easy. He even sends you YouTube videos of how to get in. Not that you really need to see them.
The rule is one guest at a time. I respected that rule, but there's nobody here to say anything if you brought 2 girls back.
Some will warn against overnight visits, and I agree with all that. It's dangerous and you never know what could end up missing.
That said, I had been messaging Nikol who I found on mileroticos. I got back to my room at 9:30 and she came over. It was 600 mil for the night (BBBJ included but covered sex). In the messages I asked her if she wanted anything from the USA. I bought her a hat and sweatshirt from the Airport in Houston. She loved it, think it made my experience even better.
She's cute and very sweet. Check out her tik tok videos at andryyarenizz. She showed me some videos so I told her I wanted to see her make one. There are 2 videos she made in my AirBnB room wearing the hat and sweatshirt I bought her. LOL.
She was here about 11 hours. She was very trustworthy. I left a wad of cash out in plain view like an idiot. She reached over the cash and grabbed the empty plastic bag the shirt and hat were in and asked if it was OK to take the bag.
Friends, first of all, thank you for your help.
I must say that Colombia is disappointing me a lot. I am used to Africa where the girls are just plain gorgeous. I am talking about their character because the black of their skin can like it or it cannot like it.
They are kind, sweet and helpful and affectionate. They do everything without asking for anything in return, even if they expect help, but without asking. Then you are the one who gives something to these poor girls.
You tell me there are only prostitutes in Santa Fe? I would say not only in Santa Fe but in every corner of Colombia. You can't talk to a girl without her asking for money.
I talked to about 200 girls on social networks and they all wanted money. A lot of money. As soon as they ask for money, I cut off the communication. Now I don't talk to anyone anymore. I run the risk of being left alone in Colombia.
It is horrible, really horrible. Thinking if a girl touches her tits she wants money, and if you touch her pussy she wants more money.
Maybe it will be that I'm old and I can't stand these things anymore.
Who is the semi-pro? Quickly said: a girl who is doing university and sometimes to pay for her studies or to have fun, has to sell her body. I met students of Medecina and Economics. Smart and affectionate girls. When you are with these girls you love them. I like to fall in love. They are sweet and loving. Nothing to do with the pros who only do that job, they treat you badly and where inside their pussy there is maybe shit.
Two guys also asked me for money on Badoo, when I asked for information about a city. Only a very nice girl refused to meet me and she wanted to be my friend but she didn't ask me for money.
Is Colombia this? It is truly ugly in relationships between people, it is beautiful only in places.
By now I have bought a ticket for Colombia but I am already sorry because I do not know where to go.Listen brotha, I feel your pain, however, online dating, online mongering, online whatever is always full of money grubbers.
Depending on your personality, looks, energy, vibe, Spanish ability, etc, Colombia can be pure sweetness as well.
Just go, hit the venues and see who you vibe with. Follow your smart instincts, and you'll meet some sweethearts.
Enjoy.
That being said I'm thinking of taking an exploratory trip to Brazil because a Monger in Cali told me told me that Long Time was standard there like it is in my beloved Africa. I'll let you know.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.Many reasons to explore Brazil, but because 'long time' is standard is not one of them, Lol.
Brazil, just as in Colombia, has short time, medium time, and long time monger venues.
I love Brazil, my personal favorite, however, just as in Colombia, if the vibe is good, it can even be difficult to get a girl to leave, Lol.
You tell me there are only prostitutes in Santa Fe? I would say not only in Santa Fe but in every corner of Colombia. You can't talk to a girl without her asking for money.
Sorry to hear about your experience, but I am afraid you have the wrong perception about Colombia. I'm living in Colombia since 7 years, have my social circle here and date Colombianas. Even when I lived in other countries, I always ended up with a social circle among the Colombian community and dated mainly Colombian girls. Never ever they asked for money. There is no such thing as semi-pros. A pro is having sex with strangers for money, no matter if it is once a week, once a day or once an hour. It might be higher in some areas such as Medellin or Pereira, but in Bogota 99% of girls are non pros and 1% is a pro. I know most mongerers visiting Colombia believe it is much higher, but it is a wrong perception. If you don't speak spanish, are obvious short term tourist, hang out in places where you can find pros, it is obvious that you will be approached only by hookers. A regular Colombiana will never approach a foreigner, only hookers do that. If you want to meet regular Colombianas, you will have to do the first move or have a social circle to meet them. Same for online meeting. If you are contacting only profiles with obvious sexy pictures of herself, not one picture of herself with friends or family, there is a good chance she is a hooker. A hooker will never post pictures of herself with her mom in her social media profile she is usying to find clients.
This forum is about finding sex, but 99% of reports is about prostitutes. If you are interested in dating regular Colombianas, just check my FAQ about dating Colombianas:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3870-Dating-Colombianas&p=1983593&viewfull=1#post1983593.
Mr Enternational
08-23-21, 18:58
But yesterday I met a gem. A wonderful girl from Pereira. She that she will come to see me in Bogota or Medellin. I am sure she is a regular girl and not a semi-pro. She is kind, sweet, helpful and cheerful. I talked to her for almost a day. She is a needle in a haystack and I would not want to let her escape.Do not put all of your eggs in that fucking basket. During the past week while I was in Colombia at least 8 chicks flaked on me. 2 of them I have been in normal relationships with before. Chicks will tell you all kind of shit when you are 8,000 miles away, but when you are just around the corner excuses will abound. Biches always want to know when did you arrive, how long are you staying, where are you staying, just to say they can not come. It is hard enough to get chicks in the same city to show up, and you are talking about a chick going from one city to the other. Do not fuck yourself over like that.
Mr Enternational
08-23-21, 19:08
Posted yesterday that I was still at the airport testing site for an hour and 20 minutes and still no test. It ended up being an hour and 20 minutes. Got there at 10:45, had the test shortly after 1:00. I had read that it had to be a PCR test, but my Delta check-in information says antigen or PCR. Antigen would have been a lot easier. Anyway, got the test knocked out and got the negative results just after 10:00 pm. I uploaded them this morning and cleared to fly back.
Definitely recommend a different testing site. I didn't have anyone come to my room because I'm staying in an AirBnB.I have posted testing sites here 10 times that cost from 70k to 90k for antigen and take less than 1 hour. The other day when I arrived in Bogota I saw 800 mfs standing out there at that airport testing site. I am sure the wait that day was longer than the one you experienced. You uploaded them and are cleared to fly back? All filling out the form on the website means is that you do not have to fill the form out when you get to the airport. It does not clear you for anything. You will have to show your test when you arrive at the airport for check in. Make sure you do your check-mig as well.
May be my English is so bad, I'm sorry. It is not my native language. I am in a mongering forum and maybe some guy will be offended. But I would never approach a prostitute to have a love story. I never thought this. I mean that I talked to 200 girls from various cities on the Internet and they all asked me for money, even 2 guys. One girl even asked me to send money before I arrived because I was booking it for that week. If you don't believe it, I won't send the conversation with her. I have never said or thought that all Colombian girls are prostitutes. I am referring to the ones I met on the Internet. The ones I spoke to are all prostitutes and I confirm it. I use Badoo, Facebook, Tagged, Mingle2, etc.
But yesterday I met a gem. A wonderful girl from Pereira. She that she will come to see me in Bogota or Medellin.
I am sure she is a regular girl and not a semi-pro.
She is kind, sweet, helpful and cheerful. I talked to her for almost a day. She is a needle in a haystack and I would not want to let her escape.You're sure she's a regular girl? I really need to know what country you're from, if you think that regular girls will happily agree to travel across country in order to have sex with a foreigner, a complete stranger, 3 times their age, that they've only spent a few hours chatting with online.
Let me tell you what is almost certain to happen. Before you fly to Colombia she's going to need some money for something. Maybe because she wants to buy something nice to wear for you, maybe because she will need to pay some expense while she is away, but it's practically guaranteed some need will pop up.
Of course, it's not because she's a prostitute or anything. She's just a sweet, innocent girl who is interested in men 3 times her age. Aren't all 20 year old girls like that?
Because she is so sweet, kind, cheerful and helpful, and because you would not want to let her escape, you'll send the money. It just makes sense that traveling to spend time with you will cause her added expenses.
Then, probably within 48 hours of your flight, something is going to go wrong. Most likely there will be an illness in the family, or maybe an injured pet. Whatever the problem is, she won't have the money to pay for it. She'll feel really bad about asking you for money, but she doesn't have anyone else, and her grandmother, sister, brother or dog will die if she can't come up with the money.
What do you do? This poor, sweet, kind girl is in tears and she really wants to see you, but she can't until she somehow gets the money she needs. And when you think about it, she's not asking for a lot of money, not when compared to how much you're spending.
So you decide to send the money, because she obviously needs it and you don't want to let her escape.
You're not going to believe this, but on the day when she's supposed to travel to meet you, another financial emergency is going to get in the way. She's going to need more money before she can come and be with you.
This pattern will likely continue. She'll still be in Pereira and you'll be sending her money until 1 of 3 things happens.
1. She decides that she's gotten all the money from you she can.
2. You finally realize that you've been played for a sucker and stop sending her money.
3. She decides that she can get more money from you by coming to see you.
20 year old girls don't agree to meet with strangers who are nearly 60 years old, with the understanding sex will be involved, unless there's a financial incentive. Have someone tattoo that on your forearm in case you forget.
You would never approach a prostitute to have a love story? The only women who will agree to your "love story", without first spending time with you and getting to know you, are either prostitutes or scam artists. That has nothing to do with Colombia. Try it in your own country. Start sending the same messages to 20 year old girls who live in your country. Unless you find a prostitute, you're not going to have much luck.
Fortunately (for the local economy), every country that is a sexual tourism destination has plenty of girls who will happily give up being prostitutes in order to be a girlfriend (who gets paid more than most prostitutes) for any foreigner who reaches out to them. How do I know this? Because I believed the same thing as you. I believed that all those 18-23 year old girls in the Dominican Republic thought I was handsome. I thought they were just regular girls who desperately wanted a boyfriend, from another country, who was 30+ years older than them. I believed them and thought all of the guys here just didn't understand. I was absolutely certain I had found a better way.
Fortunately, I woke up from my fantasy after spending 2 hours with a regular girl who was "kind, sweet, helpful and cheerful" and who "I would not want to let her escape. " I scrapped my plan and went back and took the advice everyone else had given me. I was able to salvage my trip.
If you're committed to only having "a love story" your trip is probably going to be a complete failure, especially the way you are approaching it. If you're more interested in fucking up royally than in enjoying your trip, keep doing what you're doing. If you are more interested in having a good time, pay attention:
1. Forget all the social media you've been using. Your chance of finding a regular girl that way is extremely low. Instead start looking on Colombian Cupid. Make your profile open to a long term relationship. Specify what you're looking for. You have a better chance of finding girls who aren't just prostitutes.
2. Don't commit to anything other than meeting, at a public place, for coffee or lunch.
3. Pick a city. It doesn't matter which one.
4. Only look for girls in that city. Don't waste your time on girls in other cities. There are plenty of girls in Medellin or Bogota.
5. Don't spend too much time messaging before you go to Colombia. Keep the conversation light and casual. If the girl tries to get you talking about sex, she's almost certainly a prostitute.
6. Meet the girls with no expectations. You're just having coffee with a stranger. Find out if there is a mutual interest after you are face to face.
7. Don't rush things. A love story takes time to develop.
JonesLover
08-23-21, 20:11
Hey,
I know it is not necessary to make a Covid-19 RT- PCR test or a simple molecular test neither to enter nor to leave Colombia.
Why do you make tests? I'd like to understand.
Sorry to hear about your experience, but I am afraid you have the wrong perception about Colombia. I'm living in Colombia since 7 years, have my social circle here and date Colombianas. Even when I lived in other countries, I always ended up with a social circle among the Colombian community and dated mainly Colombian girls. Never ever they asked for money. There is no such thing as semi-pros. A pro is having sex with strangers for money, no matter if it is once a week, once a day or once an hour. It might be higher in some areas such as Medellin or Pereira, but in Bogota 99% of girls are non pros and 1% is a pro. I know most mongerers visiting Colombia believe it is much higher, but it is a wrong perception. If you don't speak spanish, are obvious short term tourist, hang out in places where you can find pros, it is obvious that you will be approached only by hookers. A regular Colombiana will never approach a foreigner, only hookers do that. If you want to meet regular Colombianas, you will have to do the first move or have a social circle to meet them. Same for online meeting. If you are contacting only profiles with obvious sexy pictures of herself, not one picture of herself with friends or family, there is a good chance she is a hooker. A hooker will never post pictures of herself with her mom in her social media profile she is usying to find clients.
This forum is about finding sex, but 99% of reports is about prostitutes. If you are interested in dating regular Colombianas, just check my FAQ about dating Colombianas:.Your advice is always top notch, but there is one thing you got wrong this time. Hookers, at least on Facebook, in Medellin, often post pictures of their mothers, fathers and children.
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