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Captain Solo
12-02-21, 02:13
Exchange rate now is about $1:4,000 Cops.
Today BBVA's ATM gave me 4,011 whereas the ATM at hotel T on Carr 10 gave only 3,755.
Stick with BBVA unless you want to lose 8% off the top.
SamPeter71
12-02-21, 17:30
I will be coming to Bogota on Sat. I read in some past posts that Sunday is slow at Santa Fe. Is that still true? Any tips on best place / area to fond girls on Sunday?
CuriousMind123
12-02-21, 18:23
I will be coming to Bogota on sat. I read in some past posts that Sunday is slow at Santa Fe. Is that still true? Any tips on best place / area to fond young girls on Sunday?It's slow but still you will probably find got chicks. I went with 2 hot girls to their room last Sunday and was satisfied.
Captain Solo
12-02-21, 19:11
About half girls on streets and in bars as weekdays, but there will sill be over a hundred girls.
Hot girls hang out at corners calle 22 and 23 at Carrera 15 and 16. Only a few small blocks in that area. You will see all.
Captain Solo
12-02-21, 19:18
Santa Fe has the highest number of hot young girls on streets anywhere, most are very nice and complying, Colombian girls seem k.
More gentle but Venezuelans are tough and cunning.
I hate street people who sell and beg everywhere you walk. You give them change, so they will keep asking you. I hate the loud music everywhere. Every store has its speakers screaming out to the streets.
Santa Fe is risky but also exciting and rich with hot girls.
Captain Solo
12-02-21, 20:43
Frogg,
Thanks for showing me the rope in Bogota. Wish you could have gone to CTG and MDE and have some fun with us.
Santa Fe has the highest number of hot girls on streets anywhere, most are very nice and complying, dome pretty like dolls, Colombian girls seem easy and gentle, Venezuelans seem tougher.
I hate street people who sell and beg everywhere you walk. You give them change, so they keep asking you. I hate the loud, annoying music everywhere. Every store has its speakers screaming out to the streets.
Santa Fe is risky but also exciting and rich with hot girls, very pretty, nice and sweet.
I just don't like to screw girls in controlled environment like casas or massage joints. I prefer the excitement hunting for beasts in jungle to shooting fish in a barrel. There was only 1 slim girl near calle 67 that morning. I think she's mid 30's but a bro thinks mid 40' s. The rest of the casa girls were older, chunky and homely, nowhere as pretty, attractive and fun as young street girls in Santa Fe.
Colombian people are very polite and helpful, far many more girls are available and are much prettier than other countries. I walked from hotel san fran to Santa Fe via calles 22, 23, 24 a few nights, did not feel threatened or unsafe. There were always people and policias late at night.
Street girls pretty like dolls are 40 K cops or $10, casa girls 29 K cops or $7.50. Flights are cheap, Bogota is pretty safe and easy to navigate. From airport take taxi to hotel San Fran, only $8-10. Or take $1 bus K86 half hour to Museo Nacional stop and walk 900 feet South to hotel Tenqu and San Francisco.
I definitely recommend a trip to Bogota to experience Colombia's unique Latin culture, people, food, sex scenes on streets, in bars in Santa Fe, also casas, SA and TINDER. Ran into a few bros I had not seen in years. The bros should arrange to go together and have more fun. Perhaps a Friday to Monday 4-day trip is enough to get a great experience. Take red eye flights, sleep in the planes to save time and hotel costs.
Captain Solo
12-02-21, 20:50
Woodman.
A few guys were looking for the info you posted. I hope they will find girls to their taste.
If you live in Bogota you may have more time to walk around and search casas. For guys who only have a few days on site, bar and streets have many hot selections and more convenient day and night.
Thanks for posting good intels. Hope to see you in my next trip.
I will be coming to Bogota on Sat. I read in some past posts that Sunday is slow at Santa Fe. Is that still true? Any tips on best place / area to fond girls on Sunday?Usually the clubs are dead until 9-10 and maybe 1 or 2+ Fiebre usually is one.
Mr Enternational
12-02-21, 22:33
I hate street people who sell and beg everywhere you walk. You give them change, so they will keep asking you.Who gives them money?
I hate the loud music everywhere. Every store has its speakers screaming out to the streets.You better never step foot into Dominican Republic if you think that is something in Colombia.
Santa Fe is risky but also excitingRisky how? Exciting how? Maybe I have just been around too long.
Frogg,
Thanks for showing me the rope in Bogota. Wish you could have gone to CTG and MDE and have some fun with us.
Santa Fe has the highest number of hot girls on streets anywhere, most are very nice and complying, dome pretty like dolls, Colombian girls seem easy and gentle, Venezuelans seem tougher.
I hate street people who sell and beg everywhere you walk. You give them change, so they keep asking you. I hate the loud, annoying music everywhere. Every store has its speakers screaming out to the streets.
Santa Fe is risky but also exciting and rich with hot girls, very pretty, nice and sweet.
I just don't like to screw girls in controlled environment like casas or massage joints. I prefer the excitement hunting for beasts in jungle to shooting fish in a barrel. There was only 1 slim girl near calle 67 that morning. I think she's mid 30's but a bro thinks mid 40' s. The rest of the casa girls were older, chunky and homely, nowhere as pretty, attractive and fun as young street girls in Santa Fe.
Colombian people are very polite and helpful, far many more girls are available and are much prettier than other countries. I walked from hotel san fran to Santa Fe via calles 22, 23, 24 a few nights, did not feel threatened or unsafe. There were always people and policias late at night..I absolutely love this and truly appreciate you on these boards my man! Are you going to be there next month by any chance? Damn like I would definitely like to link it with you bro we literally have the same mindset, we think a like LOL I'm known out here in NY for being a CDP guy (casa de putas guy) but I truly do love the idea of picking up street girls, I loved the way you described it its literally how I feel about it. I love the thrill of it.
I would definitely link up with you in January if you're going to be out there still. I'll be out there from January 1st. Jan 16th for any of you guys planning a trip to Colombia. PM me if interested in linking up. I plan to land in Medellin first and then go to Bogota before finishing it all off in Cartagena (not too happy about the latest restrictions tho on Cartagena. No girls in the clocktower zone. But it is definitely a beautiful walled city so its worth going at least for that).
Again thanks for these reviews brother.
Member #4740
12-03-21, 00:20
After two weeks in Chapinero I moved to the area of https://goo.gl/maps/osFJJQ1TXGNggLKF6 its a beautiful park, high end apartment hotels, coffee shops etc.
I recommend this suit in this two hotels as I stayed in both. https://g.page/apartamentos-plaza-suites?share this is super new apartment hotel in around 50 Usd. Then I took this.
https://goo.gl/maps/s5a2LBYbRxLVo18F9 is the same concept but even more luxury, (same price).
Mezzanine https://goo.gl/maps/7dDU56sRBHaa9kgN8 is a super fun place full of sexy girls. Let me tell you nothing can beat this area with the comfort of the hotels and the super close distance to this Establishments. I think I saw 3 casas there but I entered the second one some serious hot white and tall girls.
I took one to the room and gave her 50 K as I never ask the price. She took the money instantly without a blink. A fun experience.
Now I went to another place across the street with also some serious girls https://goo.gl/maps/Qv6Cu1yGwqtnxDEs8 its inside the mall all the way at the right side.
I also visit the https://g.page/danncarltonbogota?share as its the closes hotel if you want to "take away" some room small some better and the reception was not too eager to show me all the rooms. Always ask for "Internal" ROOM. Its a room that not facing the road. This is a must.
Now I have a flight soon to Medellin (again) but I think I will keep stay here or go back to Cucuta, Here in this area of Bogota its a one minute walk and everything is there Dozens of sexy girls and Medellin you need a taxi and all hotels are shit and long way from airport.
I was surprise to see so many "PusPuS" its a bicycle with carriage around the park. I remember the days I took a PusPus from Toliara airport to amazon hotel for 1 k. But this is Colombia.
Frogg,
Thanks for showing me the rope in Bogota. Wish you could have gone to CTG and MDE and have some fun with us.
Santa Fe has the highest number of hot girls on streets anywhere, most are very nice and complying, dome pretty like dolls, Colombian girls seem easy and gentle, Venezuelans seem tougher.
I hate street people who sell and beg everywhere you walk. You give them change, so they keep asking you. I hate the loud, annoying music everywhere. Every store has its speakers screaming out to the streets.
Santa Fe is risky but also exciting and rich with hot girls, very pretty, nice and sweet.
I just don't like to screw girls in controlled environment like casas or massage joints. I prefer the excitement hunting for beasts in jungle to shooting fish in a barrel. There was only 1 slim girl near calle 67 that morning. I think she's mid 30's but a bro thinks mid 40' s. The rest of the casa girls were older, chunky and homely, nowhere as pretty, attractive and fun as young street girls in Santa Fe.
Colombian people are very polite and helpful, far many more girls are available and are much prettier than other countries. I walked from hotel san fran to Santa Fe via calles 22, 23, 24 a few nights, did not feel threatened or unsafe. There were always people and policias late at night..Thank you so much for sharing this awesome info.
After two weeks in Chapinero I moved to the area of https://goo.gl/maps/osFJJQ1TXGNggLKF6 its a beautiful park, high end apartment hotels, coffee shops etc.
Hey NIO, thanks for your detailed report and especially for the maps links. Noted. Are there any restaurants in the Parque Calle 106 area, that you enjoyed?
So much talk about the streetie sweeties in Santa Fe.
Here are some photos from the South Stroll area a couple blocks south of the North area-.
This stroll when busy has some nice girls Sometimes 100+ for 30-40 mil. Not as many nice ones like the North area-- prices will go up soon.
I have banged a lotta girls down here.
Glad you finally made it!! Hope you had fun
Frogg,
Thanks for showing me the rope in Bogota. Wish you could have gone to CTG and MDE and have some fun with us.
Santa Fe has the highest number of hot girls on streets anywhere, most are very nice and complying, dome pretty like dolls, Colombian girls seem easy and gentle, Venezuelans seem tougher.
I hate street people who sell and beg everywhere you walk. You give them change, so they keep asking you. I hate the loud, annoying music everywhere. Every store has its speakers screaming out to the streets.
Santa Fe is risky but also exciting and rich with hot girls, very pretty, nice and sweet.
I just don't like to screw girls in controlled environment like casas or massage joints. I prefer the excitement hunting for beasts in jungle to shooting fish in a barrel. There was only 1 slim girl near calle 67 that morning. I think she's mid 30's but a bro thinks mid 40' s. The rest of the casa girls were older, chunky and homely, nowhere as pretty, attractive and fun as young street girls in Santa Fe.
Colombian people are very polite and helpful, far many more girls are available and are much prettier than other countries. I walked from hotel san fran to Santa Fe via calles 22, 23, 24 a few nights, did not feel threatened or unsafe. There were always people and policias late at night.
Street girls pretty like dolls are 40 K cops or $10, casa girls 29 K cops or $7.50. Flights are cheap, Bogota is pretty safe and easy to navigate. From airport take taxi to hotel San Fran, only $8-10. Or take $1 bus K86 half hour to Museo Nacional stop and walk 900 feet South to hotel Tenqu and San Francisco.
I definitely recommend a trip to Bogota to experience Colombia's unique Latin culture, people, food, sex scenes on streets, in bars in Santa Fe, also casas, SA and TINDER. Ran into a few bros I had not seen in years. The bros should arrange to go together and have more fun. Perhaps a Friday to Monday 4-day trip is enough to get a great experience. Take red eye flights, sleep in the planes to save time and hotel costs..
Captain Solo
12-03-21, 15:40
Blingz,
It's definitely more fun to have a wingman or two in these monger trips. In Bogota I met with a few bros, whom I had met in other countries years ago, and it was all fun again, a couple little boys shamelessly exposing all their kinkiest desires and just having fun.
A couple wingmen in Southern California read my posts and are anxious to go. I suggest you post a tentative schedule in the Tijuana thread, you will find wingmen. I to meet up. I did the same and a few bros lined up their schedules to meet up.
Or you can go alone and make friends with many mongers walking Santa Fe every day.
SamPeter71
12-03-21, 16:37
Thank you Woodman. Any other other suggestions / area in chapinero or north?
Usually the clubs are dead until 9-10 and maybe 1 or 2+ Fiebre usually is one.
DonMedellin
12-03-21, 17:13
Located near the gold museum. CR 10 #14-20 5th floor. Would like to find out about the price and quality of girls. I would also like to hear your recommendations of day time casas. Thanks.
DonMedellin
12-03-21, 17:14
Looking for a short time hotel where I can take a street girl to in Santa Fe. Somewhere clean and safe, please advise. Gracias.
GringoItaliano
12-03-21, 18:00
I enjoyed my fourth visit to Bogota for the last week of November 2021, despite the well-known downsides of the Santa Fe red light district, its clear decline from pre-pandemic levels, and a few other developments that could be cause for concern. As I had intended, Santa Fe's cheap in-person mongering provided a welcome change of pace from and a refreshing alternative to the widespread flakery, price inflation, and other problems that have been wreaking havoc on Medellin's once-excellent Facebook scene. I have continued to identify "diamonds in the rough" in Santa Fe, to the point that I have begun repeating with solid performers more frequently and developing a pool of regulars for future visits. This trip also marked a decisive turning point in my preference for Santa Fe's street girls over club girls. Please see my previous three Bogota reports for a baseline and for more context and background.
The continued deterioration of the Medellin Facebook scene, as I experienced in my July and October 2021 trips, led me to look for alternatives. Bogota's Santa Fe district was the obvious answer. In-person mongering, with sessions on the spot and the ability to scope out candidates in person before agreeing to a session, seemed like the obvious solution to the skyrocketing cita flakery, lateness, double-booking, and other Internet-based problems that the Medellin scene has been experiencing. The rampant price inflation in Medellin, resulting from a large influx of often ill-advised newbies with little or no price sensitivity, also made the low cost of a Santa Fe-focused Bogota trip even more appealing. As in pre-pandemic times, the Santa Fe talent pool also offers greater diversity in terms of body types, ethnic and regional backgrounds, and skin / hair / eye colors than the relative homogeneity of paisa girls.
Indeed, it seems that more than a few other mongers have also identified Santa Fe as a solution for whatever has gone wrong with their usual spots elsewhere. I saw more gringos in Santa Fe during this week than I heard or saw in my previous three trips combined. On previous trips, I might have seen two or three other gringos or groups of gringos over the course of a whole week, and they were usually young black guys. On this trip, I might have seen that many other gringos or groups thereof each day, and more of them were white and / or older. These numbers are still tiny but were nonetheless a major change from previous trips, even as recently as December 2020. This trip was also the first time that anyone in Santa Fe, including a few girls and annoying club touts, addressed me in English. It only happened a few times, but it was still a big change from my prior experience, E. G. In 2018, a girl refused to believe that Americans would come to Santa Fe until I showed her a photo of my passport on my phone. I doubt that Santa Fe is at any risk of turning into a Parque Lleras-like gringo circus, simply because it is so ghetto. It would nonetheless appear that gringos are becoming a more noticeable, but still small, feature of Santa Fe. I met up with fellow ISG members from the USA And Germany briefly one night to compare notes. I also met up with a virtual Facebook wingman of mine, who needed a change of environment on his way home to the USA From Medellin during a long layover in Bogota.
An increase in gringo traffic raises concerns about price increases. Some prices for higher-end girls at top-tier night clubs like Fiebre or Troya have gone up slightly since my last trip a year ago. Such girls that might have accepted 80 k before now want 100 k, although some of the less competitive night club girls might still accept 80 k. Street prices have remained more stable, with most of them still quoting typical base rates of 40 k-60 k, excluding any extras. If there has been any increase in street prices at all, it has been in surcharges for extras like BBBJ, E. G. Some want as much as 40 k-50 k extra just for a BBBJ add-on (if they are willing to do it at all, that is). Some street girls will nonetheless still accept as little as 10 k-20 k extra for BBBJ. These slight increases are nonetheless small potatoes compared to the rampant price inflation among Medellin Facebook girls, and I saw no solid proof that these slight increases had any connection to the more noticeable gringo presence. Santa Fe remains highly cost-competitive if one is OK with the "hit-it-and-quit-it" style of service and the ghetto environment.
This trip marked a decisive turning point in my preference for street girls over club girls. When I first came to Santa Fe, I focused almost exclusively on the club girls and only came to see the value of the street girls toward the end of my trip. I have come to focus on street girls more and more over time, to the point that they have now become the main attraction for me. In the future, I will only resort to the club girls as a backup, if and when I cannot find what I want on the street first. The street girls seem to provide more consistent quality of service (including a greater willingness to provide BBBJ at a reasonable markup) and are less likely to display the unpleasant attitudes that some of the club girls have. They are also more cost-competitive and generally have nicer rooms in their short-time hotels than those in the clubs. I also wonder if and how much their personalities influence their choice of the street over the clubs as a workplace, and if the type of girls that choose the street over the social environment of the clubs are a better fit for me and my personal tastes. The street scene is also more active during the daytime and in the early evenings, which are preferable from a security perspective.
The other factor pushing me increasingly toward the street and away from the clubs on this trip was the marked post-pandemic decline of Paisas as a night club and the rather disappointing reopening of Atunes as a daytime / happy hour club. Paisas used to be one of the three top-tier night clubs, along with Fiebre and Troya, but it is no longer anywhere near in that league. I saw its decline on my last trip a year ago, and now it is even worse. Whenever I checked it out, there were only 5-10 rather unappealing girls in there, and a similarly small number of customers. I only did one session there on this trip, with a girl with an enormous ass that I personally found appealing for just that reason. The reason for Paisas' post-pandemic decline is unclear to me, as it is still quite a nice facility, and neighboring Fiebre and Troya seem to have recovered quite well. I also had high hopes for this trip due to the reopening of Atunes, which had yielded some of my best experiences on my first two trips. It seemed to attract a different crowd of less hardened "girl next door" or "MILF next door" types that I appreciated as a contrast to the rest of the more hardcore Santa Fe talent pool. I repeatedly visited the reopened Atunes during this trip and was disappointed to see much smaller numbers of girls and customers than in the past. More importantly, it seemed to have much the same talent pool day after day, with little change in the lineup. The girls also seemed to be just the daytime counterparts of the type of girls one would encounter in the night clubs, rather than the qualitatively different "girl next door" types of the past.
This trip came shortly after the beginning of Colombia's requirement for proof of vaccination to enter night clubs and many other public venues. The Santa Fe clubs appeared to be disregarding this requirement until the police entered Fiebre on a busy night for an inspection. They separated the girls to inspect their identification for age and immigration status and also their vaccination cards. They spoke to a few male customers as well but did not appear to be questioning them in any systematic way. The word was that this inspection was retaliation for Fiebre's failure to pay police shakedowns. The police found one girl who did not have a vaccination card and thus found a pretext to shut Fiebre down for the night. I went to neighboring Troya, where they later closed the doors and pretended to be closed. Fiebre resumed normal operations the next night and still did not ask for proof of vaccination after the shutdown. The bouncer at Troya did, however, ask for proof of vaccination the following night. I showed him my vaccination record in the clear app, which was evidently unfamiliar to him beyond the use of the word "Pfizer," but he accepted it anyway. Troya bouncers did not ask me for proof of vaccination on subsequent nights, however. I should also note that none of the restaurants where I ate (all of which were outside Santa Fe and more upscale) asked for proof of vaccination either.
This trip also taught me the value of repeating with regulars that I know to be strong performers. I should note that all of these regulars with great service were street girls; none of them were club girls. There is one girl with whom I have had sessions on each of my four trips thus far, and I did three sessions with one new girl on this trip. I have started to make more of a point of getting their contact information for future visits and perhaps for off-site sessions at my own lodging. I had been wary of taking Santa Fe girls to my own lodging for security reasons, but I now feel comfortable enough with at least a few of them to take that next step. All but one girl was comfortable sharing her phone number, but Santa Fe girls remain largely hostile to requests for photos.
This enjoyable trip provided a much-needed change from Medellin, with a more convenient, cost-competitive, and diversified source of paid pussy than overpriced Facebook flakes, many of whom look more or less the same. Santa Fe remains relatively free of gringo contamination, at least for now and despite what appears to be an increase in gringo traffic. I will certainly return to Santa Fe in the future, but before that I hope to return to Cali, which also remains relatively free of gringo contamination, for a more thorough exploration than what my unexpectedly shortened March 2020 visit allowed.
Thank you Woodman. Any other other suggestions / area in chapinero or north?I think Sunday is not good for casas-- SF is best bet for action.
I meant to say at in my previous answer that there are usually 1-2+ clubs that are happening on Sunday. YMMV.
And there are some hot Streetie Sweeties too. -- See recent Sunday SF posts.
LatinaLover#1
12-04-21, 01:39
Hey NIO, thanks for your detailed report and especially for the maps links. Noted. Are there any restaurants in the Parque Calle 106 area, that you enjoyed?Restaurants. My favorite is Jacques. Call before to be sure of the hours.
https://www.facebook.com/JacquesPaginaOficial/
SamPeter71
12-04-21, 02:35
I have t mobile service and I get slower data and text free. I will be staying in Bogota for a week. Is it better to get local sim? Get at airport or in / around Santa fe area?
Hi,
Who can say anything on Plastic surgery in Bogota? Thanks.
Someone PMed me asking for Perla's contact info. I replied but accidentally hit "delete" instead send. I don't have her contact information but I think this could be her new ad.
https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/hola-amor-me-llamo-perla-soy-una-joven-prepago-universitaria-que-desea-sexo/13297108/
It's very close to what I remember. Boy do I miss Colombia.
Mr Enternational
12-04-21, 18:35
I have t mobile service and I get slower data and text free. I will be staying in Bogota for a week. Is it better to get local sim? Get at airport or in / around Santa fe area?Normal T-mobile has worked fine for years. If you need more speed than is provided then you can go on and pay $5 per day. Local SIM would come out cheaper than paying the extra though.
MarquisdeSade1
12-04-21, 19:10
Hi,
Who can say anything on Plastic surgery in Bogota? Thanks.I wouldn't have anything like that done in Colombia.
Espec something like liposuction.
They can botch it, and you will die!
I wouldn't even have dental implants done, the risks of life threatening complications, IE bleeding, infection etc.
Just not worth it, but its your life YOLO.
Silver Turtle
12-04-21, 19:39
Santa Fe is not for everybody.
There are rampant police shakedown, robbery, violence and stealing by the girls targeted at gringos. There are so many tricks using alcohol, sex, drugs, ignorance, ego, sympathy, etc there.
Some of gringos I know were victimized, but they don't post incidents here out of shame.
Some of the posters praising Santa Fe are making money by bringing gringos to the area and guiding / helping them and receiving cut from service establishments.
So they are not partial or unbiased posts.
There are much safer and cleaner venues / services for a similar or slightly higher price in the North and Chapinero.
Santa Fe is not for everybody.
There are rampant police shakedown, robbery, violence and stealing by the girls targeted at gringos. There are so many tricks using alcohol, sex, drugs, ignorance, ego, sympathy, etc there.
Some of gringos I know were victimized, but they don't post incidents here out of shame.
Some of the posters praising Santa Fe are making money by bringing gringos to the area and guiding / helping them and receiving cut from service establishments.
So they are not partial or unbiased posts.
There are much safer and cleaner venues / services for a similar or slightly higher price in the North and Chapinero.It sounds reasonable. I spent some time in Santa Fe for years and haven't seen as many nice girls as they said.
Santa Fe is not for everybody.
There are much safer and cleaner venues / services for a similar or slightly higher price in the North and Chapinero.Where exactly are those safer and cleaner venues in the North and Chapinero? Details please. Thanks.
Santa Fe is not for everybody.
There are rampant police shakedown, robbery, violence and stealing by the girls targeted at gringos. There are so many tricks using alcohol, sex, drugs, ignorance, ego, sympathy, etc there.
Some of gringos I know were victimized, but they don't post incidents here out of shame.
Some of the posters praising Santa Fe are making money by bringing gringos to the area and guiding / helping them and receiving cut from service establishments.
So they are not partial or unbiased posts.
There are much safer and cleaner venues / services for a similar or slightly higher price in the North and Chapinero.LOL, who is getting paid? How can I get on that program?
Where are the venues that are slightly more? How many girls available?
What happened to your gringos? -- So many questions.
SamPeter71
12-05-21, 01:54
Thank you. I will try tomorrow.
I think Sunday is not good for casas-- SF is best bet for action.
I meant to say at in my previous answer that there are usually 1-2+ clubs that are happening on Sunday. YMMV.
And there are some hot Streetie Sweeties too. -- See recent Sunday SF posts.
SamPeter71
12-05-21, 02:03
Reached Bogota in the PM. Checked into the hotel and after taking shower, I headed out to Santa Fe. Did multiple rounds are calle 24 where most of the clubs are. I didn't find any club interesting only Troya has some crowd. Lot of street girls all types. Some seems too young to be there. I asked for cedula and some of them could not show it.
With zero Spanish, I am able do quick sessions with couple of girls.
Santa Fe reminds me of Tijuana. May be bit bigger or more girls. But clubs are not good as Hongkong at Tijuana, at least when I went today.
Thanks for all the informative post in this forum that helped me ti confidently roam in the Santa Fe.
It sounds reasonable. I spent some time in Santa Fe for years and haven't seen as many nice girls as they said.I would say the quality of talent is average and below average. I have not seen any SW that I would do, but I'm very picky. Most girls smoke cigarettes and smell like an ashtray. I did a few girls at Fiebre and Paisas, all in the 6-6. 5 range, everything covered. I think girls working the clubs are of slightly better quality than SW girls and a bit pricier, but still cheap.
Silver Turtle
12-05-21, 04:12
I wish good luck to your guiding business in Santa Fe for extranjeros. I am just a frequent visitor in the area. I do not have any economic interest in the area, and I did my best to provide an unbiased and impartial description of the area.
LOL, who is getting paid? How can I get on that program?
Where are the venues that are slightly more? How many girls available?
What happened to your gringos? -- So many questions.
BigButtDetecto
12-05-21, 04:21
Has anyone flown Spirit from the US to Colombia? They seem to have some very inexpensive flights but I have heard horror stories about them stranding people, cancelling flights etc.
Also can anyone recommend a hotel in Santa Fe to rent a room? Although I will stay at the IBIS I HATE that knock at the door and figured if I get my own room in Santa Fe I can eliminate that problem. That knock is a killer and I hate it. Even paying the lady that takes the money extra she still knocks early.
Showdown.I will never fly with spirit again; last time they delayed my luggage and my suitcase was damaged; they denied me a report to provide to my insurance.
Silver Turtle
12-05-21, 04:23
File a complaint to the USA Dept of Transportation. Same opinion about Spirit.
I will never fly with spirit again; last time they delayed my luggage and my suitcase was damaged; they denied me a report to provide to my insurance.
MarquisdeSade1
12-05-21, 04:30
I will never fly with spirit again; last time they delayed my luggage and my suitcase was damaged; they denied me a report to provide to my insurance.I've never seen a more bullshit excuse for an airline, don't fly Spirit.
They don't appreciate their customers, they hate them.
I will never fly with spirit again; last time they delayed my luggage and my suitcase was damaged; they denied me a report to provide to my insurance.Last April, on my trip to Cartagena, I drove 3. 5 hours to NYC to catch a Copa flight to Medellin via Panama City. All worked out perfectly. Recently discovered I can drive to my local airport, hop on Spirit, make a connection in Orlando and I'm in Medellin in a little over 8 hours. Despite what I read, I decided to give them a shot on my trip this month. Def keeping my fingers crossed.
LOL, who is getting paid? How can I get on that program?
Where are the venues that are slightly more? How many girls available?
What happened to your gringos? -- So many questions.I spent in SF two weeks in Sept, 2021. I visited the are 2-3 times daily. The same girls and 0-5/10 street girls for two weeks, none new. They knock in the door in 10 min even if you pay tips upfront. Club girls a bit better but not higher than 8/10 just a few girl but the service quality is a lot better in the clubs. Please show me your dream talents that you see in SF. For two week I fucked a half pole dancers in Troy. 6 was but all of them over 25 years. And the rest I fucked because there was nothing better on some days.
I spent in SF two weeks in Sept, 2021. I visited the are 2-3 times daily. The same girls and 0-5/10 street girls for two weeks, none new. They knock in the door in 10 min even if you pay tips upfront. Club girls a bit better but not higher than 8/10 just a few girl but the service quality is a lot better in the clubs. Please show me your dream talents that you see in SF. For two week I fucked a half pole dancers in Troy. 6 was but all of them over 25 years. And the rest I fucked because there was nothing better on some days.Sound like bad luck to me-- sorry.
LOL, who is getting paid? How can I get on that program?
Where are the venues that are slightly more? How many girls available?
What happened to your gringos? -- So many questions.Hey Woodman,
I appreciate your maps and hard work. But Santa Fe sucked for me big time as well. I never felt threatened or in danger, but action wise 4 out of 5 chickas did not do well or did not do at all. They kept asking for more and more cash once in and 8 K paid for a room, they basically were asking for more money for something they agreed to beforehand, before we got into room. All 4 provided shitty experience, 1 of 4 decided to do nothing at all unless I pay her on top. I wasn't going to fight anyone for $10-$15, but it just didn't make sense to me to go back to SF. Some of that BS I could attribute to being gringo and newbie and poor Spanish speaker. But after the last such encounter I just bailed and went to use casas in Chapinero. Set price of 40 K for 30 min (which is often less or the same as SF chickas charge, but no negotiating needed, no BS or upcharges once in the room like in SF), BBBJ was 20 K extra discussed or tip, services were decent and chickas in casas were fine. Not all the casas had one I like, but once you walk a bit around Chapinero you could find the one you like. No offense, but SF is not for me. Did I enjoy Bogota? Si. Am I planning to go back? For sure. Would I hunt around SF? No way, casas in Chapinero is the way to go for me.
I was sick with post covid congestion? Weird minor problems—for 10 days – felt a little better. Had to get out, so made it out last night.
*Was slow on street at 1st *about 50+ girls, 20 or 25+ that were hot to hot+ girls, Many 18-20 somethings– it picked up later for sure.
Went ahead and sessioned with one of my Streetie Sweeties, Alexandra, tall mulatta 20 yr old *just to get the pressure off after taking and smoking viagra mixed with pot.
She is a standby for me pretty basic covered but just a real sweetheart—we have a part-time thang, We always are good together*After that I met up with ISGer Curious Mind and we walked the stroll.
We did a few bumps of coke and smoked some more Viagra weed and walked the block again—By that time there were more hotties. I was tempted to bang one of those cuties-.
I pinned a couple for a future day.
*Went to Venus, it was so great there were 15+ girls and some real hotties-- 4 of my clubgirls that I have been banging for the last 8 weeks or so-- Just love venus so many young hot young fun girls-- I went with Kelly a Super cute bleached blond white girl I had banged a couple times—She has a hot Cheerleader / college freshman look. This girl treats me like she love me, she love sex with me, enjoys it, when we finish she stays in position for a few minutes-- We must have been banging 25+ minutes no knock.
—Walked out and tipped the maid 2 mil*Another great session accomplished—Sexual satisfaction achieved—.
Time to have a drink. Ended up hanging out with 4 other SGI guys at Fiebre and drinking some beers and rum* since I was done with my sexual Hi-jinx. I could go ahead and drink a bit with these guys-- there were 30+ girl place was off the hook-3 really hot strippers at a time. Not a whole lot of lap dances going on but some really hot 20 something yo girls—7- 8+ I excused my buzzed self as I am alight drinker and went to the Swarma stand. Still excellent late night food.
At that time about 11:15 there were more hot quality chicas on the street.
*Random thoughts.
When I was on the way upstairs with Kelly I saw my Britney Spears she had her head in her phone so no awkward moment—I got to Smash that girl again and show her what's up*.
Walked through Troya about 8:30—It was fair to Pretty good—probably got better.
Upstairs at Venus is such a great erotic experience when you go the girl has to sign up at the coat room to get a room and the dressing / make-up area was loaded with hot girls naked putting on make up.
This Every Girl Loving Man should see!!
So, I have had this weird covid runny nose for 2 weeks and guess what? The cocaine dried it up-.
Viagra. Weed mix, crush 25 mgs V and mix with weed-- Nice chemical taste-- nice rush.
Prices, my Streetie Sweetie was 39 mil-- used to be 35 mil-- For Kelly I paid 95 mil including the 25 mil drink I bought her.
As Always, YMMV, Sorry if you came to Santa Fe and did not have a Great Time.
Member #4729
12-05-21, 22:06
Anyone have any thoughts on this recent documentary?
Seems a bit over the top to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-HE5Tcj2zs&list=PL3qIKKFJmVmS0clk_5FngjMyq8escpYVz&index=9&t=2283s
CuriousMind123
12-05-21, 23:39
I used to go to casas but there weren't more beautiful girls then in SF. And I always paid more then 40 k. In SF you definitely need Spanish skills. I almost never had these issues that you are telling. The girls did great service in 98% of the time. I tip the maid always 2000 pesos and most of the time they knock on the door a few minutes later. I honestly don't go to any other place than SF when I want chicas. Happy to hear a few casas for 40 k and great chicas from you and I will surely check them out.
Hey Woodman,
I appreciate your maps and hard work. But Santa Fe sucked for me big time as well. I never felt threatened or in danger, but action wise 4 out of 5 chickas did not do well or did not do at all. They kept asking for more and more cash once in and 8 K paid for a room, they basically were asking for more money for something they agreed to beforehand, before we got into room. All 4 provided shitty experience, 1 of 4 decided to do nothing at all unless I pay her on top. I wasn't going to fight anyone for $10-$15, but it just didn't make sense to me to go back to SF. Some of that BS I could attribute to being gringo and newbie and poor Spanish speaker. But after the last such encounter I just bailed and went to use casas in Chapinero. Set price of 40 K for 30 min (which is often less or the same as SF chickas charge, but no negotiating needed, no BS or upcharges once in the room like in SF), BBBJ was 20 K extra discussed or tip, services were decent and chickas in casas were fine. Not all the casas had one I like, but once you walk a bit around Chapinero you could find the one you like. No offense, but SF is not for me. Did I enjoy Bogota? Si. Am I planning to go back? For sure. Would I hunt around SF? No way, casas in Chapinero is the way to go for me.
LatinaLover#1
12-06-21, 03:04
Hey Woodman,
I appreciate your maps and hard work. But Santa Fe sucked for me big time as well. I never felt threatened or in danger, but action wise 4 out of 5 chickas did not do well or did not do at all. They kept asking for more and more cash once in and 8 K paid for a room, they basically were asking for more money for something they agreed to beforehand, before we got into room. All 4 provided shitty experience, 1 of 4 decided to do nothing at all unless I pay her on top. I wasn't going to fight anyone for $10-$15, but it just didn't make sense to me to go back to SF. Some of that BS I could attribute to being gringo and newbie and poor Spanish speaker. But after the last such encounter I just bailed and went to use casas in Chapinero. Set price of 40 K for 30 min (which is often less or the same as SF chickas charge, but no negotiating needed, no BS or upcharges once in the room like in SF), BBBJ was 20 K extra discussed or tip, services were decent and chickas in casas were fine. Not all the casas had one I like, but once you walk a bit around Chapinero you could find the one you like. No offense, but SF is not for me. Did I enjoy Bogota? Si. Am I planning to go back? For sure. Would I hunt around SF? No way, casas in Chapinero is the way to go for me.Went to SF and met Wood there years ago, went one other time with my wing man, never pulled anything, out of the clubs or the street, just not my thing.
If your looking for cheap and not very picky, you'll be fine. One thing you should be very aware of and that's how dangerous Bogota has become. Especially SF. Even Woodman, a very street savvy monger, has been a victim of the Devils Breath. I have traveled all over Central and Latin America and have been in some tight situations. However, I have never been afraid to walk the streets in Chico Norte at night but I am now. There is a very distinct difference of the situation pre and post pandemic. Thieves have begun to invade restaurants in Parque 93 and rob diners. Bogota was once a wonderful place to visit and unless Lopez gets a grip on the crime it will be the end of Bogota. I have first hand knowledge of friends who had bikes stolen in broad daylight, just pushed off the bike at gun point, more than once. My novias father was shot in the leg and head and spent 2 months in a coma because he didn't have any money. My girl, her mother and brother have been victims of stolen phones and cash many times. Be smart, don't get drunk, don't walk back to the hotel alone, don't wear jewelry etc. Etc. Be safe.
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Went to SF and met Wood there years ago, went one other time with my wing man, never pulled anything, out of the clubs or the street, just not my thing.
I... Even Woodman, a very street savvy monger, has been a victim of the Devils Breath....Fake News.
El Moreno 92
12-06-21, 05:46
Anyone have any thoughts on this recent documentary?
Seems a bit over the top to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-HE5Tcj2zs&list=PL3qIKKFJmVmS0clk_5FngjMyq8escpYVz&index=9&t=2283sDefinitely over the top. Santa Fe was no where near dangerous as they made it to be. I have been there many times (day and night) when in Bogota and the only problems I had there was making the tough decision on which chica to take out of a bar / club there (or bang onsite). I don't doubt that is a bad area in the sense of the word. But I would not classify SF as a "No-Go Zone. " Heck, most of us in this forum have been there with ZERO issues.
Mr Enternational
12-06-21, 13:16
Anyone have any thoughts on this recent documentary?
Seems a bit over the top to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-HE5Tcj2zs&list=PL3qIKKFJmVmS0clk_5FngjMyq8escpYVz&index=9&t=2283sSomebody posted that I think last year. I watched 2 minutes then started laughing and turned it off. It was rather ridiculous.
Somebody posted that I think last year. I watched 2 minutes then started laughing and turned it off. It was rather ridiculous.If Santa Fe is one of the world's toughest no-go zones, then I'm a "tough guy" then because I been many, many times LOL! Yes, what a joke!
NeilGeorge
12-06-21, 15:01
Santa Fe was no where near dangerous as they made it to be. I have been there many times (day and night) when in Bogota and the only problems I had there was making the tough decision on which chica to take out of a bar / club there (or bang onsite). I don't doubt that is a bad area in the sense of the word. But I would not classify SF as a "No-Go Zone. " Heck, most of us in this forum have been there with ZERO issues.While on foot, I have been followed by crazy people to where I had to duck into a restaurant until they quit following me. The taxi drivers do not want to go into that area. If dropped off outside a club, and getting a taxi at the curb, it should be safest. But I would not walk around much in the area. Many creeps are annoying and some are dangerous, you do not know anyone there, so how would you know? Better to go with a second person, or not stray from the taxi cabs. The more you walk around the more you expose yourself to theft, knifes, robbery, harassment. Especially if you look like a foreigner.
SankarShetty
12-06-21, 15:44
I will be in MDE right after new year. Anyone planning a trip in the first 2 weeks in Jan, PM me if you want to exchange info. Or plan for a meet up.
CuriousMind123
12-06-21, 16:46
While on foot, I have been followed by crazy people to where I had to duck into a restaurant until they quit following me. The taxi drivers do not want to go into that area. If dropped off outside a club, and getting a taxi at the curb, it should be safest. But I would not walk around much in the area. Many creeps are annoying and some are dangerous, you do not know anyone there, so how would you know? Better to go with a second person, or not stray from the taxi cabs. The more you walk around the more you expose yourself to theft, knifes, robbery, harassment. Especially if you look like a foreigner.Never happened to me so far and I look like a foreigner. Are you going there with a 25 k USD Rolex watch, Gucci clothes, a new iPhone 13 and various gold chains and diamond rings?
LatinaLover#1
12-06-21, 21:46
Fake News.You even posted a pic of one or 2 of the girls.
LatinaLover#1
12-06-21, 22:04
Just saw this on FB.You posted about an incident on facebook, but it wasn't you. Kinda thought you were too savvy to fall for that.
You even posted a pic of one or 2 of the girls.Yeah, not me-- I saw on FB, incident reported on a FB Medellin Group-- there have been several over the last 2+ years.
At the hands of Twitter girls.
Mr Enternational
12-06-21, 22:45
The taxi drivers do not want to go into that area. If dropped off outside a club, and getting a taxi at the curb, it should be safest.What are you talking about? A while back a guy was saying that Uber would not go there. Now you are saying that taxis do not want to go there. Well why is the neighborhood full of taxis? I have never had a problem getting a taxi, Uber, or walking to or from Santa Fe at any time of the day or night. Never followed by weirdos, never drugged, never robbed. I have probably been there the most out of anybody besides Woodman and BC. Never saw anything that made me say I better get away from this place real quick or I better not come back to this place.
You even posted a pic of one or 2 of the girls.Yes, perps on the Medellin expats, so glad I have never had something like that happen to me.
Knock on wood, LOL, I suppose if I was targeted it could happen, I knew a Colombian girl that had it blown in her face, not sure.
The details of how it effected her. Anyone could do that to someone easily. This is an incident 8+years old.
I know someone on ISG who was a victim who lost a lot of $$ and electronics while at the San Francisco hotel this year. I would like to ask him more about that.
Before that I knew an English teacher who was drugged at a chapinero gay club and he took the perp with him home to the rooming house we lived in and both were admitted by the Portrero and the perp left a while later with all his $$ and electronics. This is also an 8+ yr old incident. Apparently he was under the perp's control when they got to the rooming house but who knows as he remembered little.
Have not really had many incidents myself, just minor things, but shit happens, seems like the worst SF incidents I hear about are between the inhabitants there.
I have heard there is street justice for ladrones in Santa Fe as the mafia does not want people like us to stop coming.
LOL, I always am relieved when I enter my building late at night.
I understand, just like shit, bad sessions happen- I have had a few.
Off course many more were great to fantastic. I have a somewhat unique situation where I can get to know the girls.
Santa Fe is a sexual playground, you too can have fun if you just treat it like a party and communicate.
My #1 rule is ABV. Always be vetting. Is this girl in a good mood? Is this girl being genuinely friendly to me? Is her attitude shit?
Is there some good chemistry going on here? Can I grab this girl's ass without a problem? LOL, shit like that.
On the street this is not as easy as in the clubs but is possible. I always talk to a new girl for a while to feel her out.
Asking about where she is from, her name and different small talk. Asking about BBBS is always a good topic and when they say no.
I just say Que Pena and laugh-- just keep feeling them out. I try to get something between us in those minutes.
On the other hand sometimes girls are super hot and very reserved but fantastic when you get them in the room.
Buying pussy from a new hoe is like a box of chocolates, LOL.
As in life communication is the most important element of dealing with these girls.
As far as the quality of the girls in Santa Fe-- certain times are better than others. If you went the wrong time, whose fault is that?
Anyhow-- before closing I want to say this guiding I do is a part time gig. I would not do it if I did not live close by. I enjoy it but I could not do.
It everyday.
Let's all be careful out there!
Hi guys,
Coming this weekend to Bogota.
I'm looking for reliable and quite cheap escorts (70-150 K), is Mileroticos or Photo prepagos good to find what I'm looking for or are there many fakes?
Also, if anyone free this weekend, happy to check some places together.
Thanks!
Sound like bad luck to me-- sorry.You make some money here. And it's OK. SF is highly controlled area. It's common sense, all businesses there want customers and they never allow crime there. I didn't count how many chicks there but I've never seen as many as you. Max 50 to 70 girls and 60% 0-2/10. But anyway SF is the best bet in Bogota, because there are some girls in the area and you don't need make circles around the city in the hope to find a girl. I saw many girls in casas (average 30+ year old Prostitutes 0-5/10 and photoprepagos, 60% pics are fake or badly outdated. The best bet is "outcalls" minimum price 150 mil per hour+ taxy. If the pics are fake you just send her back without money and don't do any prepayments even for Uber. And you can say whatever you want but this is the reality. And my experience with girls is 1500 more likely 2000 prostitutes, 60 years. I.
PolyOrchid
12-07-21, 05:19
If Santa Fe is one of the world's toughest no-go zones, then I'm a "tough guy" then because I been many, many times LOL! Yes, what a joke!The voice actor is great, but the script writer sucks. The closing line: "Santa Fe, one of the most dangerous places on earth." That writer has either never been there, or lives in a state of perpetual fear wherever he goes. Very funny.
SamPeter71
12-07-21, 06:17
I visited many casa in Chapinero today. I didn't find a Single girl for my liking. I spent 2 hours walking that area.
Also went to Pussyhosue with another ISG friend. It was really disappointing. Hardly any girls at 10.30 PM. Went to la 49 and it was closed.
Santa Fe clubs has much better girls both in numbers and quality.
Yes, Santa Fe street girls offer bad service. But clubs seems to be better in the Santa Fe.
I think most of the reports of distinction are out of date in Bogota. Please don't use the, for deciding where to go. Look only recent reports to get idea about the action.
SamPeter71
12-07-21, 06:22
This great report and helped me in some of my planning. But most info related to chapinero is not long valid today. Also it needs a section on Santa Fe.
I don't know if the north side / zona t club data is still valid. I will check it out later this week and update.
GENERAL
I have travelled and mongered in 80 different countries, but those who remember me from my posts a couple of years ago know how much I love Colombia. I'm settled now, living and working in Bogota since 2 years. This is a complete report about all the options available in Bogota. It's not a compilation of info I found in Internet, I have visited all the described locations during this year, so information is updated and double checked. I went through all the locations of World Travel 69's excellent map. If I don't mention one of them then it's because I couldn't find it for whatever reason (wrong info, wrong address, closed location). Or the place didn't offer sex, or the place offered sex but not with girls. No kidding! In the map there were a couple of gay clubs, needless to say I did not mention them here.
I have left the very best at the end of my report, don't miss it, the best kept secret of Bogota, never reported before on ISG!.
Went to SF on my first day in Bogota & Colombia solo. Thanks to you guys I was prepared and felt ok as I was knowing what will await me. Went there at 5 pm on a Friday and was kind of worried as it was getting dark. I ended up staying until 11 pm. It was very crowded and I didn't feel harassed as nobody was giving me bad vibes or any attation at all besides the people trying to get you into the clubs. But also inside the clubs everyone seemed to be very honest. So I don't understand the concerns. It is dodgy but I felt ok as many people are arround. But I did not leave the 3 blocks with the main action as it did not look crowded any further.
The girls are nice and I had the feeling they were really trying to give me a good time. The knock on the door occasionall it is not their fault, I had the feeling some of the girls were annoyed themselves and some just ignored the knock if it came too early.
I found most clubs boring as there was little interaction. Troya was the best. Was charged 80 k for a session, thought it would be less but still worth it. Atunes was nice for a relaxed drink but I didn't notice any action at all.
Also went to Mezzanine. It was good but I felt overcharged. 100 k for half an hour massage. 150 k for 30 min incl sex, 200 k for 1 h. Is that the normal price?
I liked SF but getting there from the good parts of Bogota was not so easy. Always took me 15-30 min to find a driver via the apps as often nobody confirms and it is a long ride. Not sure if that's because of SF or because all Taxis / Ubers are busy, probably a combination. But it always worked in the end.
PrestigePoker
12-07-21, 11:08
I used to go to casas but there weren't more beautiful girls then in SF. And I always paid more then 40 k. In SF you definitely need Spanish skills. I almost never had these issues that you are telling. The girls did great service in 98% of the time. I tip the maid always 2000 pesos and most of the time they knock on the door a few minutes later. I honestly don't go to any other place than SF when I want chicas. Happy to hear a few casas for 40 k and great chicas from you and I will surely check them out.Mongering couple years from San Diego / Tijuana first post first time in Colombia in Bogota. Mexican fluent Spanish speaker was at the casino all night since Monday everything seemed pretty dead. Down to meet up with some fellow mongers or info on the casas in chapinero can't seem to find the details on those. Or any tips here for two weeks. Thanks.
PrestigePoker
12-07-21, 11:12
Long time mongerer from San Diego / Tijuana first post.
Fluent Spanish speaker here for two weeks down to meet up with any fellow mongers any tips suggestions well appreciated staying by chapucero. Read about casas there but don't got the info. Don't mind going to Santa Fe used to going to Tijuana. Not worried and am fluent i100% Mexican fluent in Spanish used to going to Tijuana.
LatinaLover#1
12-07-21, 14:22
Colombia Requires COVID-19 Vaccinations for Travel to Colombia.
By Jeff.
Colombia will begin to require COVID-19 vaccinations for travel to Colombia starting on December 14 for those 18-years old or older.
The President of Colombia, Iváand Duque announced this Monday that starting on December 14,2021, a vaccination certificate will be required to enter Colombia for people over 18 years of age.
Colombia Requires COVID-19 Vaccinations for Travel to Colombia.
By Jeff.
Colombia will begin to require COVID-19 vaccinations for travel to Colombia starting on December 14 for those 18-years old or older.
The President of Colombia, Ivand Duque announced this Monday that starting on December 14,2021, a vaccination certificate will be required to enter Colombia for people over 18 years of age.Seems pretty easy. Just get vaccinated if you're not already.
Exactly!
But it's a bunch of political people on here that think the Democratics are out to get them, LOL.
Nevertheless, they putting that Bogota Cocaine and weed and other drugs the doctor prescribes into their body without research or questions.
I've been all over the world since Covid, To each his own.
Seems pretty easy. Just get vaccinated if you're not already.
Hi,
Could someone, Colombian, write a review on SF prices for local (Colombian) people?(clubs and street girls prices) drinks, girls, service quality (do girls cut the time? Dances. In my experience, you have to pay twice more.
Penetrador
12-08-21, 12:45
Exactly!
But it's a bunch of political people on here that think the Democratics are out to get them, LOL.
Nevertheless, they putting that Bogota Cocaine and weed and other drugs the doctor prescribes into their body without research or questions.
I've been all over the world since Covid, To each his own.Fuck the vax I ain't getting shit for something that is over already.
SamPeter71
12-08-21, 14:47
Any suggested places for covid testing that gives results in hours. Now that we have 24 he limit, looking for reliable sites. Preferably in Chapinero area or anywhere else is fine.
I used to go to casas but there weren't more beautiful girls then in SF. And I always paid more then 40 k. In SF you definitely need Spanish skills. I almost never had these issues that you are telling. The girls did great service in 98% of the time. I tip the maid always 2000 pesos and most of the time they knock on the door a few minutes later. I honestly don't go to any other place than SF when I want chicas. Happy to hear a few casas for 40 k and great chicas from you and I will surely check them out.CuriousMind,
Please make a review on SF. I teach me where to find girls. In my experience, day time is what you can see on youtube videos. The choice is exactly the same. Day time no more than 30 girls, two to five is OK but their attitude is like they they cheat you in the room as it happens with street girls there because it is the part of their business.
What are you talking about? A while back a guy was saying that Uber would not go there. Now you are saying that taxis do not want to go there. Well why is the neighborhood full of taxis? I have never had a problem getting a taxi, Uber, or walking to or from Santa Fe at any time of the day or night. Never followed by weirdos, never drugged, never robbed. I have probably been there the most out of anybody besides Woodman and BC. Never saw anything that made me say I better get away from this place real quick or I better not come back to this place.You should understand that its just marketing for fist timers. They do it from a few accounts to scare the public to buy their service. The businesses there is never allow petit crime there because if the area get crimed they loose the customers. If one business allow the crime on the premises other ones suffer soon or later.
I understand, just like shit, bad sessions happen- I have had a few.
Off course many more were great to fantastic. I have a somewhat unique situation where I can get to know the girls.
Santa Fe is a sexual playground, you too can have fun if you just treat it like a party and communicate.
My #1 rule is ABV. Always be vetting. Is this girl in a good mood? Is this girl being genuinely friendly to me? Is her attitude shit?
Is there some good chemistry going on here? Can I grab this girl's ass without a problem? LOL, shit like that.
On the street this is not as easy as in the clubs but is possible. I always talk to a new girl for a while to feel her out.
Asking about where she is from, her name and different small talk. Asking about BBBS is always a good topic and when they say no.
I just say Que Pena and laugh-- just keep feeling them out. I try to get something between us in those minutes.
It is something new in the art of mongering. You should write a manual "How to seduce the prostitute for free or how to please her."
Up to now, I know just one way to show her the money. Roses and chocolate, your outfit to impress, upper level pick up skills and so on.
PM me. Ill be there Dec. 16 - 19. I've been to BOG many times before.
Long time mongerer from San Diego / Tijuana first post.
Fluent Spanish speaker here for two weeks down to meet up with any fellow mongers any tips suggestions well appreciated staying by chapucero. Read about casas there but don't got the info. Don't mind going to Santa Fe used to going to Tijuana. Not worried and am fluent i100% Mexican fluent in Spanish used to going to Tijuana.
Dude you got hosed with the gringo price at Mezzanine! One time I gave them 50 k and they went to work!
Went to SF on my first day in Bogota & Colombia solo. Thanks to you guys I was prepared and felt ok as I was knowing what will await me. Went there at 5 pm on a Friday and was kind of worried as it was getting dark. I ended up staying until 11 pm. It was very crowded and I didn't feel harassed as nobody was giving me bad vibes or any attation at all besides the people trying to get you into the clubs. But also inside the clubs everyone seemed to be very honest. So I don't understand the concerns. It is dodgy but I felt ok as many people are arround. But I did not leave the 3 blocks with the main action as it did not look crowded any further.
The girls are nice and I had the feeling they were really trying to give me a good time. The knock on the door occasionall it is not their fault, I had the feeling some of the girls were annoyed themselves and some just ignored the knock if it came too early.
I found most clubs boring as there was little interaction. Troya was the best. Was charged 80 k for a session, thought it would be less but still worth it. Atunes was nice for a relaxed drink but I didn't notice any action at all.
Also went to Mezzanine. It was good but I felt overcharged. 100 k for half an hour massage. 150 k for 30 min incl sex, 200 k for 1 h. Is that the normal price?.
Anyone want to go to the primero de mayo clubs? I rough seen that I would not go alone again.
I definitely recommend a trip to Bogota to experience Colombia's unique Latin culture, people, food, sex scenes on streets, in bars in Santa Fe, also casas, SA and TINDER. Ran into a few bros I had not seen in years. The bros should arrange to go together and have more fun. Perhaps a Friday to Monday 4-day trip is enough to get a great experience. Take red eye flights, sleep in the planes to save time and hotel costs.I second your appraisal of Bogotá!
After two weeks in Chapinero I moved to the area of https://goo.gl/maps/osFJJQ1TXGNggLKF6 its a beautiful park, high end apartment hotels, coffee shops etc.
I recommend this suit in this two hotels as I stayed in both. https://g.page/apartamentos-plaza-suites?share this is super new apartment hotel in around 50 Usd. Then I took this.
https://goo.gl/maps/s5a2LBYbRxLVo18F9 is the same concept but even more luxury, (same price).
Mezzanine https://goo.gl/maps/7dDU56sRBHaa9kgN8 is a super fun place full of sexy girls. Let me tell you nothing can beat this area with the comfort of the hotels and the super close distance to this Establishments. I think I saw 3 casas there but I entered the second one some serious hot white and tall girls.
I took one to the room and gave her 50 K as I never ask the price. She took the money instantly without a blink. A fun experience.
Now I went to another place across the street with also some serious girls https://goo.gl/maps/Qv6Cu1yGwqtnxDEs8 its inside the mall all the way at the right side.
I also visit the https://g.page/danncarltonbogota?share as its the closes hotel if you want to "take away" some room small some better and the reception was not too eager to show me all the rooms. Always ask for "Internal" ROOM. Its a room that not facing the road. This is a must.
Now I have a flight soon to Medellin (again) but I think I will keep stay here or go back to Cucuta, Here in this area of Bogota its a one minute walk and everything is there Dozens of sexy girls and Medellin you need a taxi and all hotels are shit and long way from airport.
I was surprise to see so many "PusPuS" its a bicycle with carriage around the park. I remember the days I took a PusPus from Toliara airport to amazon hotel for 1 k. But this is Colombia.Nice report! I always stay in Chapinero when I visit Bogotá; but, I may try the area around Parque 106 that you recommend. I need to get out of my comfort zone LOL.
CuriousMind123
12-08-21, 21:51
CuriousMind,
Please make a review on SF. I teach me where to find girls. In my experience, day time is what you can see on youtube videos. The choice is exactly the same. Day time no more than 30 girls, two to five is OK but their attitude is like they they cheat you in the room as it happens with street girls there because it is the part of their business.There is the one calle where la piscina is and the other where the shawarma place is. I always find girls I like there from Wednesday to Saturday. Need the right timing. In Fiebre and Troya I always find girls I like. And I'm still a young guy and picky. I have normal girls as well that have money and a good job and I have sex with them regularly. Speaking at least conversational Spanish is very important, being in a party mood is important, ability to dance is important.
CuriousMind123
12-08-21, 21:54
Anyone want to go to the primero de mayo clubs? I rough seen that I would not go alone agian.I'm down to check them out and wrote you a PM. Anyone who wants to join?
Captain Solo
12-08-21, 22:15
Here's the crazy Capt Yossarian of Catch-22, stationed in Sardinia, flew be-17 s to bomb Germany. It's one of the zaniest antiwar novel with an all star movie. Yossarian is old enough to be Solo's great grand pa.
Yep. Non stop flight to Bog then hop over to the beautiful and sexy Medellin.
Having a wonderful time here with the gracious and friendly people in of MDE.
You should understand that its just marketing for fist timers. They do it from a few accounts to scare the public to buy their service. The businesses there is never allow petit crime there because if the area get crimed they loose the customers. If one business allow the crime on the premises other ones suffer soon or later.I'm a little confused. Who's here marketing "from a few accounts to scare the public to buy their service"? From what I can tell, the only person who offers Santa Fe tours here is Woodman. But he's been very upfront that he's charging for his services and I'm yet to read from anyone displeased with his service.
And your statement about businesses losing customers if there are crimes is a bit naïve. As if business owners have full control over whatever happens in the streets and even in their establishments. I've read enough accounts on this very board that shit can happen in Santa Fe. Which doesn't mean you should be scared to death, but it also doesn't mean that it's safe for everyone just because nothing has happened to you.
It is something new in the art of mongering. You should write a manual "How to seduce the prostitute for free or how to please her."
Up to now, I know just one way to show her the money. Roses and chocolate, your outfit to impress, upper level pick up skills and so on.Hmm, it's actually common sense.
Seems pretty easy. Just get vaccinated if you're not already.Or go to Brazil.
Just as good or better really.
I'm a little confused. Who's here marketing "from a few accounts to scare the public to buy their service"? From what I can tell, the only person who offers Santa Fe tours here is Woodman. But he's been very upfront that he's charging for his services and I'm yet to read from anyone displeased with his service.
And your statement about businesses losing customers if there are crimes is a bit nave. As if business owners have full control over whatever happens in the streets and even in their establishments. I've read enough accounts on this very board that shit can happen in Santa Fe. Which doesn't mean you should be scared to death, but it also doesn't mean that it's safe for everyone just because nothing has happened to you.My friend, I am Russian and Russia is a corrupt country. What you see in mob movies on TV is Hollywood shit. Colombia is not even closed. If you want to talk about crime in SF, the local police department has a cutout of the area because they want to get out well and work for the local police, the workers have to bring some money to the upper levels. SF is their land and they earn their income there. As soon as a company leaves crime on their premises, they fuck it hard, because it will reduce their income. You're watching too many movies, buddy. SF is a local community, which means that businesses have known each other for years and pay the police, if not, they will be in the doggy position.
I'm a little confused. Who's here marketing "from a few accounts to scare the public to buy their service"? From what I can tell, the only person who offers Santa Fe tours here is Woodman. But he's been very upfront that he's charging for his services and I'm yet to read from anyone displeased with his service.
And your statement about businesses losing customers if there are crimes is a bit nave. As if business owners have full control over whatever happens in the streets and even in their establishments. I've read enough accounts on this very board that shit can happen in Santa Fe. Which doesn't mean you should be scared to death, but it also doesn't mean that it's safe for everyone just because nothing has happened to you.I don't mind about Woodman services. If people want to pay it means they need it. The problem is: #1 some members here afraid go to Colombia because some people post bullshit here. #2 some people have some expectations and they spend their time and money #3 everyone is here don't mind to get correct information to plan their time and budget #4 I have never see 200 girls on the streets of SF even in pre-Covid time (I don't count girls in the clubs). If you know this is a small area and if you add 200 girls + all club staff + some people on the street there will be more people than on Santa clause parade.
There is the one calle where la piscina is and the other where the shawarma place is. I always find girls I like there from Wednesday to Saturday. Need the right timing. In Fiebre and Troya I always find girls I like. And I'm still a young guy and picky. I have normal girls as well that have money and a good job and I have sex with them regularly. Speaking at least conversational Spanish is very important, being in a party mood is important, ability to dance is important.As soon as you pay money, prostitutes do not care how you looks, how skilled you are in the sex, how good is your Spanish or how good you can dance salsa. I was there on any day and any time: SF is slow. On some days some clubs are closed because there are no customers. They want to be open but they loose money to pay to the staff. It is not about if you young or old, prostitutes are about making money. And I have never seen non pro girls there. Only maybe if they come with their man to see SF as tourists. You pay= the prostitutes happy to blow you. If you have no money= go to dance with someone else, have a nice day and see you later when you get some money.
There is the one calle where la piscina is and the other where the shawarma place is. I always find girls I like there from Wednesday to Saturday. Need the right timing. In Fiebre and Troya I always find girls I like. And I'm still a young guy and picky. I have normal girls as well that have money and a good job and I have sex with them regularly. Speaking at least conversational Spanish is very important, being in a party mood is important, ability to dance is important.You can check me any time, go to the second floor in Troy and ask the staff do you remember the Russian, he was here in October 2021 for two weeks, every day from 6 pm to 11;30 pm and fucked here two-three girls a day. They should remember me because I have never bargain with girls about money (10 mil= $2.5 it doesn't make any sense to loose your face for 2 $) and always gave nice tips to the second floor staff. Go ask and post here if I lie.
I'm a little confused. Who's here marketing "from a few accounts to scare the public to buy their service"? From what I can tell, the only person who offers Santa Fe tours here is Woodman. But he's been very upfront that he's charging for his services and I'm yet to read from anyone displeased with his service.
And your statement about businesses losing customers if there are crimes is a bit nave. As if business owners have full control over whatever happens in the streets and even in their establishments. I've read enough accounts on this very board that shit can happen in Santa Fe. Which doesn't mean you should be scared to death, but it also doesn't mean that it's safe for everyone just because nothing has happened to you.You can check me any time, go to the second floor in Troy and ask the staff do you remember the Russian, he was here in October 2021 for two weeks, every day from 6 pm to 11;30 pm and fucked here two-three girls a day. They should remember me because I have never bargain with girls about money and always gave nice tips to the second floor staff.
Mr Enternational
12-09-21, 02:12
Santa Fe reminds me of Tijuana. May be bit bigger or more girls. But clubs are not good as Hongkong at Tijuana, at least when I went today.Chicks in the Santa Fe clubs are not costing you US $80-100 either, as they are in HK.
Mr Enternational
12-09-21, 02:27
SF is highly controlled area. It's common sense, all businesses there want customers and they never allow crime there. I didn't count how many chicks there but I've never seen as many as you. Max 50 to 70 girlsSounds like you were only on one corner of Santa Fe if you only see 50-70 girls. Santa Fe is not just 1 block. The hooker part stretches like 4 or 5 blocks one way and 3 or 4 blocks the other way.
Would anyone know if Santa Fe is open and alive tonight? Don't know how the holiday would effect it (or not at all). I especially like to going to the costilleria behind Troya, so it would be helpful to know if that is open too.
Jazzy Daddy
12-09-21, 06:51
Any jazz musicians or salseros that can provide info on open jams and best salsa clubs? Thanks in advance, I arrive next month.
I am not trying to break Woodman's business. If you are a first timer, probably he is your good option.
#1 Most likely you will be confused in the area and limited in time to explore the area (if you are on short trip) .
#2 Hi will give you some info, which can save your time and money.
#3 I don't know him and never used his service and have no idea how much it cost and timeframe.
#4 If the price 30 $ per hour or so it is your best option, because if you have a few days and your goal to see as many girls as possible you need count your trip budget (flight + hotel + expences + etc) and divide it by the number of the girls you see over you trip= the price of one fuck. Someone could be upset because the trip to Colombia could cost you per one fuck more expensive than your local prostitutes per one fuck. That is why, if you are new to the ground SF you want to get some advice to be capable start right away and don't explore area making your mistakes. It will be more pricy and time consuming.
I don't advertise Woodman and even don't know him, but is it's reasonable price for you get his consultation because it will save you your valuable time in SF.
Sounds like you were only on one corner of Santa Fe if you only see 50-70 girls. Santa Fe is not just 1 block. The hooker part stretches like 4 or 5 blocks one way and 3 or 4 blocks the other way.I was every where. Prostitutes want to stay on prime spots to make more income, it is common sense. When the prime spot is empty it means slow. The more far you go from the prime spot, the more adventures you can get in the sense of safety. For example an underage girl with a fake ID, or a girl with a friend or undiscovered police officer who is making some day off income. The girl will say no when you are going to push you finger inside her and you will push anyway and it will be a rape crime my friend. And the friend or police officer will be happy to take your money if you have it or if you low on the money you may go to the local cell to make some time, and before your trip for adventures you need study local criminal code. It can save you a lot of money and maybe a few decades of you mongering time. I mean with girls if you understand what I am tacking about.
LatinaLover#1
12-09-21, 14:50
Nice report! I always stay in Chapinero when I visit Bogot; but, I may try the area around Parque 106 that you recommend. I need to get out of my comfort zone LOL.Chico Navarra. Safe, clean close to Mezzanine and unicentro Bogota, a Real nice mall, with restaurants and Casinos. Also close to my favorite restaurant in that area, Jacques on CL 109.
I stayed in Navarra many times before a moved a few meters south to Chico Norte. Great area, only a few minutes to Zona Rosa or SF if that's your thing.
LatinaLover#1
12-09-21, 14:52
Seems pretty easy. Just get vaccinated if you're not already.You would think so.
Mr Enternational
12-09-21, 15:38
I was every where. Prostitutes want to stay on prime spots to make more income, it is common sense. When the prime spot is empty it means slow. The more far you go from the prime spot, the more adventures you can get in the sense of safety.What are you calling a prime spot? If you are talking about around Troya, there are just as many chicks in the other prime spot that don't have those clubs. Bottom line is there are way more than 50-70 chicks on the street in Santa Fe.
The more far you go from the prime spot, the more adventures you can get in the sense of safety. For example an underage girl with a fake ID,LOL. Dude what are you talking about? All the underage chicks that I ever see are actually in what I assume you are saying this prime spot is (like right in front of Kalifornia). Not a worry for me because I don't seek out chicks that would be questionable on the age. You can easily tell them by their clothes alone. If you are one to push the limits then that is on you.
LOL. Dude what are you talking about? All the underage chicks that I ever see are actually in what I assume you are saying this prime spot is (like right in front of Kalifornia). Not a worry for me because I don't seek out chicks that would be questionable on the age. You can easily tell them by their clothes alone. If you are one to push the limits then that is on you.The underage danger is mostly on Cll 22 -- Those girls will want to take you to a hotel or apartment away from the red light area as the hotels in SF will card the girls and only want 18+.
Ggekko2009
12-09-21, 18:19
After just two days at Cartagena, my buddy and I decided to skip the rest of our stay and get a next day flight out to Bogota. I have not looked back and we were glad that we did.
Other than the weather, Cartagena was crappy this time for me in so many ways. From the quality of the girls, selections, service offerings and relative pricings etc. Etc. , it was disastrously bad through and through.
After landing at Bogota and checking into the hotel Friday night, it was already past midnight. My buddy and I walked from the hotel to Santa Fe since it is not more than a ten-minute stroll by my account.
This is an account of my first experience to Santa Fe. The stroll to SF was uneventful and I felt safe the whole time. The area in SF was busy with people and this was already close to 1 am. My buddy was already familiar with SF, and so he gave me a tour, hopping from one strip club / bar to the next. Among all these bars, Fiebre was the most crowded and it was jam packed. There was some kind of a raffle going on inside. Senor Covid would love this place. No way was I going to hang around with so many people packed in like sardines even though I am fully vaxxed.
Along the street, you would have the club employees try to hustle you into their clubs. They are not aggressive at all by any mean, even very docile by the standards that I had seen in Cartagena, and I am actually surprised that we can stroll into the club, and if we don't like it, we can just leave and they are cool with it. Since we were both already tired, we decided to just tour these places and be back the following days.
I would say that Santa Fe is safe in the immediate vicinity around the block where the major bars are. Probably the visible police presence in the area also helps and give assurances to the safety. Anyway, that was my first impression of SF.
In any case, the girls in SF are not really my forte, and I tend to roll differently. After a late night supper at the only decent outlet that I can find where they sell pastries and such, we walked back to our hotel to recuperate.
The next day, I decided to order in. I have heard good things of an agency called "eroticas Bogota" and decided to sample their services. I like the fact that they are very professional. The pricing structure is clear and they offer a wide range of selections and service offerings. They only require payment after their services conclude and none of these upfront payment BS. I sampled two of their girls that day and, wow, they did not disappoint. Very GFE and PSE if you want them to be, and they stay for the time paid, unlike services from others, and make you feel like you are in your own fantasy world. I would like to order more that day, but I had ran out of juice.
That evening, my buddy, along with a friend that he met on this trip, and I went to this Speakeasy Mexican restaurant called "Agave Azul". The concept is the same as Speakeasy bar. Located in what I believe is a residential area by the foothill of Monserrate, this restaurant had no visible sign that it was a restaurant. We rang the bell and was greeted and ushered into the place. The restaurant was beautifully decorated with the kitchen next to the tables laid out. There were already several customers in there. Great food and drinks.
After our dinner, we went to Fiebre at SF. That night, the place was crowded but not as crazy as the previous night. We met up with more people there but I did not stay up late while my buddy stayed back with his friends for more drinks. I walked back to my hotel and even while walking back alone, I felt safe the whole time. By the way, even though it feels safe, it still warrants that you be contextually aware of your surroundings. Of course, if you are drunk and stumble your way along the street there, then people can sense an opportunity for things to happen.
The next morning, my Colombia girl whom I had previously known flew into Bogota and met up with me at my hotel. She was definitely not packed for the Bogota's weather and I had to bring her shopping that day for a jacket. I had asked her to be my escort for a few days, while at the back of my mind I was questioning if I am making a big mistake committing so much of my time with her. Luckily it wasn't.
Anyway, after settling in and getting both of our urges out of the way, we headed out to a Japanese restaurant called "Osk peru". If you are into Sushi and Japanese food, this is definitely the place that you do not want to miss. Reservation is a definite must on any other days, but given it was a Sunday night, we were lucky to have tables available without a prior reservation. For a city with no Asian population, it served one heck of a Japanese food. The ambiance was great for a date night out. During our conversation, we get to talk about our mutual fantasies. I got to learn that my girl is bisexual and is into chicas as much as I do. The game is on.
The next day, we did some touristy stuff during the daytime. That night, my girl and I joined up with my buddy and his friends at Fiebre. She had not heard of SF and probably might have not gone into any strip clubs before. I could tell that she was nervous as we walked from our hotel to SF that night. I had her and told her to stay close to me at all times just to give her that reassurances. However, once we got into Fiebre, she started to ease up and even enjoyed the ambience, or even maybe like a kid in a candy store.
We settled into a table and met up with more friends there. The place was not crowded that night which I personally prefer compared to the huge crowd from the previous two nights. There was space for us to enjoy the chicas dancing on stage. My buddy and I were discussing if my girl might even enjoy a lap dance, which I ordered up one for her subsequently. My girl was definitely into the lap dance and it was rare and enjoyable sight as it happened. After the dance, I asked my girl if she might even be interested in bringing back into our hotel that same girl. By the time she decided, that chica has already gone up the room for a quick session with another customer. In any case, we fell back into ordering a chica from mileroticos. My girl and I left early since we want to spend our time with our order in the hotel room. My girl insisted on a taxi to return to our hotel this time. No more walking.
Even though I had my fair share of threesome, that night's experience felt so much different. When the mileroticas chica showed up in our room, I would let my girl take the lead. As we stayed in a suite, there is a bedroom in there. My girl would bring the girl into the room, while I observed on how they would start out by the bedroom door. I am not sure if I was in one of those porn scenes, but it sure felt like one.
My girl had a small talk with the chica as they ease up and get ready for actions. Somehow, I felt that the chica was more at ease with her. As I observed by the door, the girls would slowly take each other's clothes off and make out passionately. As the chica slowly went down on my girl, my girl would gesture me to join them, which of course I did, duh! It was such a huge turn on to say the least. Everything was just as what I expected from the type of porn scene one would expect. Anyway, we ordered more such services from mileroticos during the remainder of our stay. I am not sure who has enjoyed this trip more, me or my girl. But the experience in this trip has been great one for me.
For me, the journey is just as important as the destination or even more so. Pre-covid, Cartagena was a lot of fun. I even had met a girl in an airplane from Panama City to Cartagena who happened to sit next to me, and of course she turned out to be one of those part time escort. We would spend our night partying at places like La Santa club and doing it bare like lovers. Those are memorable experiences and that's why I kept returning to Cartagena. Unfortunately, that vibe is now gone this time and I am glad that I am spending my time at Bogota instead. Ok, the only thing that I do miss is the weather.
Here's the crazy Capt Yossarian of Catch-22, stationed in Sardinia, flew be-17 s to bomb Germany. It's one of the zaniest antiwar novel with an all star movie. Yossarian is old enough to be Solo's great grand pa.
Yep. Non stop flight to Bog then hop over to the beautiful and sexy Medellin.
Having a wonderful time here with the gracious and friendly people in of MDE.Is Nately with his working girl there and is Milo spreading free enterprise (where everybody gets a share) in MDE?
After just two days at Cartagena, my buddy and I decided to skip the rest of our stay and get a next day flight out to Bogota. I have not looked back and we were glad that we did.
Other than the weather, Cartagena was crappy this time for me in so many ways. From the quality of the girls, selections, service offerings and relative pricings etc. Etc. , it was disastrously bad through and through.
After landing at Bogota and checking into the hotel Friday night, it was already past midnight. My buddy and I walked from the hotel to Santa Fe since it is not more than a ten-minute stroll by my account.
This is an account of my first experience to Santa Fe. The stroll to SF was uneventful and I felt safe the whole time. The area in SF was busy with people and this was already close to 1 am. My buddy was already familiar with SF, and so he gave me a tour, hopping from one strip club / bar to the next. Among all these bars, Fiebre was the most crowded and it was jam packed. There was some kind of a raffle going on inside. Senor Covid would love this place. No way was I going to hang around with so many people packed in like sardines even though I am fully vaxxed..Great report! Love the detail and will make sure to try Agave Azul and Ask Peru when I travel to Bogot next.
Great Report! CTG and MDE is over. You can thank the "make it rain at the strip clubs guys" for that. I keep telling people BOG is full of excitement!
After just two days at Cartagena, my buddy and I decided to skip the rest of our stay and get a next day flight out to Bogota. I have not looked back and we were glad that we did.
Other than the weather, Cartagena was crappy this time for me in so many ways. From the quality of the girls, selections, service offerings and relative pricings etc. Etc. , it was disastrously bad through and through.
After landing at Bogota and checking into the hotel Friday night, it was already past midnight. My buddy and I walked from the hotel to Santa Fe since it is not more than a ten-minute stroll by my account.
This is an account of my first experience to Santa Fe. The stroll to SF was uneventful and I felt safe the whole time. The area in SF was busy with people and this was already close to 1 am. My buddy was already familiar with SF, and so he gave me a tour, hopping from one strip club / bar to the next. Among all these bars, Fiebre was the most crowded and it was jam packed. There was some kind of a raffle going on inside. Senor Covid would love this place. No way was I going to hang around with so many people packed in like sardines even though I am fully vaxxed..
What are you calling a prime spot? If you are talking about around Troya, there are just as many chicks in the other prime spot that don't have those clubs. Bottom line is there are way more than 50-70 chicks on the street in Santa Fe..I don't worry for you. You take it too personal. I am talking about California. And for two weeks I was there, I did not see more that 6-10 girls on the corner at the same time. And they were not higher 5/10 on my scale. I even did not stop there. There was one 6/10 and I took her to her motel. The problem was, when she took off her pants, her kitty smelt like she had STD. I paid her 40 mil said thank you and left. She was amazed. I am talking about safety. If you take a girl from a business in the prime location, it is more safe than if you take a girl a few blocks down the street.
LatinaLover#1
12-10-21, 12:50
Showdown, what Spirit does is hit you up hard on the back end. The fares are dirt cheap until you add bags, pick a seat ETC. I got a buddy who uses them and just buys cheap clothes when he gets to Colombia as it is cheaper than packing a bag. I think you pay like $100 often to have a suitcase round trip with Colombia.
Xpartan is right in that the seats suck, but they are okay if you are thinner. You have the least amount of leg room of any of the airlines though. I have had some miserable Spirit flights. And he is right about upgrading. With the big seats, you are getting like a first class seat and it is usually between only $50 and $80 more.
The other part that sucks with Spirit is you are going to be waiting way longer in line than any other airline. Their computer system sucks!! When they say show up 3 hours early, you do so. The lines are horrible!
Thing with Spirit though is that when I am making my flight plans, I think I can endure Spirit for the cost savings, then I go to the airport and curse using them, then I get home and say "Eh, that was not so bad."
If it is 50% cheaper on Spirit, I say to go for it and use it. If it is 20% cheaper, I would say to use a different airline. Really the best deal is using Viva to fly from Miami to Medellin not Spirit. That flight just does not always show up when you do searches.It's true, Spirit kills you on the back end But if you use this as you 1 personal item.
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You can avoid the ridiculous charges on Spirit for using the overhead bin and checking fee. Pack lite and take a direct flight, otherwise book elsewhere.
I was taking a piss by the trees on Calle 22 Bis and Carrera 15 at 2:00 am On Friday, and about three to four guys started yelling. I ignored them until finished as my back was turned to them and couldn't tell if they were yelling at someone else or what. When I turned around two or three guys were trying to fight me and were yelling. I was able to feign like I going to punch one, then sprinted the fuck out of there yelling at them to go fuck themselves once I got away. One guy tried to literally kick my butt and nearly grazed my pants as I was sprinting away LOL. Another chased after me down Calle 23 and I almost punched him. None of them touched me fortunately. I screamed "ladrones" to get the police's attention on Calle 23, who asked what I was doing there LOL.
The taxi driver said they were drug dealers and that was their "territory" and they were just going to hit me once and not rob me so I don't piss there. He said they wouldn't remember me because tons of people walk there every day, and they probably do drugs / get wasted every day, which is probably true. Someone else said that's bullshit and they just saw an opportunity to rob a foreigner. Honestly, could be either because they were yelling right when I started pissing from a distance. So I guess they don't like people pissing there.
What does ISG think? No one has ever fucked with me, and I've been there plenty. But I've never taken a piss in that area, but have outside on Calle 20 by Carrera 16 a. Is it safe to return and walk down that street again, even late at night?
Last time I was in Bogota I swore never to go back to Mezzanine because of those tiny uncomfortable rooms. Yet I found myself walking into the place again, multiple times.
The place seems more segregated than I remember, with the hottest chicks in the first room and progressive decline in beauty as you go towards the last door. The pricing also matches the progressive layers of subjective appeal, with the last door charging 60 k and the first door 150 k for the standard service. I opted for the first door, multiple times.
The two standouts were Leidi and Mia, both young and hot as hell. Leidi has a nice bubble but, speaks fluent English and is very polite, said she's college educated, which was believable. Good service. Mia was probably my best experience the entire trip. Very skilled sensual massage, mostly with her butt, followed by great energetic service. Highly recommended.
Went to Abejitas twice but only sessioned once with a pretty black skinny lady. Almost GFE service, really got into it.
Princesita is now called Piel De Miel. Sessioned here twice. The standout was Nicol who has worked here for at least a couple of years. Gives a muted but good service. The other lady (don't remember name) made me an unusual offer for such a place. A buffet of everything goes for an upcharge. I wasn't feeling like taking any wild risk so I declined. Standard session was still good.
Tried my staple eroticas Bogota three times, but unfortunately only one (a repeat) got on my excellent list. The other two were average at best; Jessica was GFE but a very lazy performer with questionable hygiene. Marcela was a tard better, but barely average by Bogota standards.
Happy mongering!
Silver Turtle
12-11-21, 19:58
Glad you didn't fight. If you cause trouble, all gringos visiting there will pay directly or indirectly.
They are drug dealers and paying protection fee to the mafia, who pay to police.
The police there are on gangs' payroll, don't trust them.
I was taking a piss by the trees on Calle 22 Bis and Carrera 15 at 2:00 am On Friday, and about three to four guys started yelling. I ignored them until finished as my back was turned to them and couldn't tell if they were yelling at someone else or what. When I turned around two or three guys were trying to fight me and were yelling. I was able to feign like I going to punch one, then sprinted the fuck out of there yelling at them to go fuck themselves once I got away. One guy tried to literally kick my butt and nearly grazed my pants as I was sprinting away LOL. Another chased after me down Calle 23 and I almost punched him. None of them touched me fortunately. I screamed "ladrones" to get the police's attention on Calle 23, who asked what I was doing there LOL.
The taxi driver said they were drug dealers and that was their "territory" and they were just going to hit me once and not rob me so I don't piss there. He said they wouldn't remember me because tons of people walk there every day, and they probably do drugs / get wasted every day, which is probably true. Someone else said that's bullshit and they just saw an opportunity to rob a foreigner. Honestly, could be either because they were yelling right when I started pissing from a distance. So I guess they don't like people pissing there.
What does ISG think? No one has ever fucked with me, and I've been there plenty. But I've never taken a piss in that area, but have outside on Calle 20 by Carrera 16 a. Is it safe to return and walk down that street again, even late at night?
Quiksilver
12-11-21, 20:05
I was taking a piss by the trees on Calle 22 Bis and Carrera 15 at 2:00 am On Friday, and about three to four guys started yelling. I ignored them until finished as my back was turned to them and couldn't tell if they were yelling at someone else or what. When I turned around two or three guys were trying to fight me and were yelling. I was able to feign like I going to punch one, then sprinted the fuck out of there yelling at them to go fuck themselves once I got away. One guy tried to literally kick my butt and nearly grazed my pants as I was sprinting away LOL. Another chased after me down Calle 23 and I almost punched him. None of them touched me fortunately. I screamed "ladrones" to get the police's attention on Calle 23, who asked what I was doing there LOL.
The taxi driver said they were drug dealers and that was their "territory" and they were just going to hit me once and not rob me so I don't piss there. He said they wouldn't remember me because tons of people walk there every day, and they probably do drugs / get wasted every day, which is probably true. Someone else said that's bullshit and they just saw an opportunity to rob a foreigner. Honestly, could be either because they were yelling right when I started pissing from a distance. So I guess they don't like people pissing there.
What does ISG think? No one has ever fucked with me, and I've been there plenty. But I've never taken a piss in that area, but have outside on Calle 20 by Carrera 16 a. Is it safe to return and walk down that street again, even late at night?My guess is something along the lines of what the taxi driver said. Locals who probably just didn't like seeing someone piss there for whatever reason. If they had wanted to rob you, they would have attacked with your back to them and / or come much closer to you so that one could try to pickpocket you while you were occupied with the others.
Quiksilver
12-11-21, 20:20
Last time I was in Bogota I swore never to go back to Mezzanine because of those tiny uncomfortable rooms. Yet I found myself walking into the place again, multiple times.
The place seems more segregated than I remember, with the hottest chicks in the first room and progressive decline in beauty as you go towards the last door. The pricing also matches the progressive layers of subjective appeal, with the last door charging 60 k and the first door 150 k for the standard service. I opted for the first door, multiple times.
The two standouts were Leidi and Mia, both young and hot as hell. Leidi has a nice bubble but, speaks fluent English and is very polite, said she's college educated, which was believable. Good service. Mia was probably my best experience the entire trip. Very skilled sensual massage, mostly with her butt, followed by great energetic service. Highly recommended.
Went to Abejitas twice but only sessioned once with a pretty black skinny lady. Almost GFE service, really got into it.Great report and thanks! I'm so used to SF that I always skip these other places. Really going to have to give Mezzanine a go one of these trips. Sounds like you had an awesome time!
Elvis 2008
12-11-21, 20:39
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You can avoid the ridiculous charges on Spirit for using the overhead bin and checking fee. Pack lite and take a direct flight, otherwise book elsewhere.Thanks LL! I may get one of those.
My guess is something along the lines of what the taxi driver said. Locals who probably just didn't like seeing someone piss there for whatever reason. If they had wanted to rob you, they would have attacked with your back to them and / or come much closer to you so that one could try to pickpocket you while you were occupied with the others.Yes, it is much easier to rob someone when they don't expect it. So yelling prior to robbing makes no sense and can trigger the fight or flight mechanism.
Glad you didn't fight. If you cause trouble, all gringos visiting there will pay directly or indirectly.
They are drug dealers and paying protection fee to the mafia, who pay to police.
The police there are on gangs' payroll, don't trust them.Didn't think about the effect it would have for others, but makes sense. The best way to win a fight is to not have one. Never know who has a knife or what. It's much harder to hit a running target than one standing still. Yes, I knew the police are on the take for pickpockets and other shit, which is why I wasn't surprised by their response. Yelling "ladrones" seems to help stop the attack though. It's stupid for business that they would hit rather than explain, but as the taxi driver said, 'they hit first, then explain later'. It's barbaric, but this isn't The Hamptons ffs. Don't think they were going to try to kill me though. Maybe just one smack and try to get me to give them money. Glad I made it out unscaved, but probably won't go back there for a while, especially at night.
Be careful out there. It seems this month is more prone to robberies than other months. A couple weeks ago while walking down the street at 3:00 am In Centro (not SF), two guys tried to block my path. One guy had missing teeth and looked like an addict. Did not feel right. Before he could get out a few words or get within 10 feet of me, I juked them then sprinted away. They yelled something in frustration. Fifteen minutes later they robbed a guy selling tinto for his cigarettes and cuatro mil using a knife. I was in OXXO and he came to tell the police, who were there drinking coffee. The police went after them in their moto, but they were gone.
Tip #1 for Santa Fe international pussy seekers.
A street girl in Santa Fe ask 40 mil = 11 $ (1 $=3,886.70 pesos).
When you are bargaining with them for 5 mil you are losing your face in front of a prostitute for 1 USD.
What you should do? Say I give you $5 tips if you do good.
More tips are coming.
Member #4740
12-12-21, 00:00
with the last door charging 60 k and the first door 150 k for the standard service. !LOL.
I stay there for two weeks now and price is 50 k in all rooms.
How you pay triple then me?
Do you ask how much? This is probably the reason.
Dekedeke328
12-12-21, 05:45
Any suggested places for covid testing that gives results in hours. Now that we have 24 he limit, looking for reliable sites. Preferably in Chapinero area or anywhere else is fine.Profamilia. CL 34 #14-52. Close to transmilenion Ave Caracas and 34 estacion. Only 5 mil Didi ride from CL59 and Septima. 90 mil and result in 30 min or so.
LatinaLover#1
12-12-21, 13:49
Great report and thanks! I'm so used to SF that I always skip these other places. Really going to have to give Mezzanine a go one of these trips. Sounds like you had an awesome time!A few years back my wing man, who is 6'3 why 280 actually fell off the table. The room was so small you could almost touch both walls if you stretched out both of your arms. BUT it's always worth a trip I have seen a few all stars there could easily rate a solid 9. A lot of girls will travel from way down in the south of Bogota to work there and they tell their family they have a real job to go every day. This time in December in most of Latin and South America you can run into some very hot, non pros out trying to make Christmas money.
Silver Turtle
12-12-21, 15:17
Yes, it is much easier to rob someone when they don't expect it. So yelling prior to robbing makes no sense and can trigger the fight or flight mechanism.
Didn't think about the effect it would have for others, but makes sense. The best way to win a fight is to not have one. Never know who has a knife or what. It's much harder to hit a running target than one standing still. Yes, I knew the police are on the take for pickpockets and other shit, which is why I wasn't surprised by their response. Yelling "ladrones" seems to help stop the attack though. It's stupid for business that they would hit rather than explain, but as the taxi driver said, 'they hit first, then explain later'. It's barbaric, but this isn't The Hamptons ffs. Don't think they were going to try to kill me though. Maybe just one smack and try to get me to give them money. Glad I made it out unscaved, but probably won't go back there for a while, especially at night.
Be careful out there. It seems this month is more prone to robberies than other months. A couple weeks ago while walking down the street at 3:00 am In Centro (not SF), two guys tried to block my path. One guy had missing teeth and looked like an addict. Did not feel right. Before he could get out a few words or get within 10 feet of me, I juked them then sprinted away. They yelled something in frustration. Fifteen minutes later they robbed a guy selling tinto for his cigarettes and cuatro mil using a knife. I was in OXXO and he came to tell the police, who were there drinking coffee. The police went after them in their moto, but they were gone.You go to poor countries, and you see the reason why they remain poor. Usually it is a vicious cycle among poverty, education and corruption.
The entire Centro is a lawless, anarchic area. It is an autonomous fiefdom of robbers and gangs.
Mr Enternational
12-12-21, 17:49
I was taking a piss by the trees on Calle 22 Bis and Carrera 15 at 2:00 am On Friday, and about three to four guys started yelling. Honestly, could be either because they were yelling right when I started pissing from a distance. So I guess they don't like people pissing there.LOL. Same thing happened to me. Well almost the same. Last time I was there late one night I walked down one of those dark streets to find a place to do it. As soon as I was set someone from a distance started yelling at me. I just tucked it back in and walked off. After 16 years I still do not know the names of any of those streets.
Dekedeke328
12-13-21, 04:00
Any jazz musicians or salseros that can provide info on open jams and best salsa clubs? Thanks in advance, I arrive next month.Area53 in galeria, close to El Campin. Not all Salsa but it is decent. Babou and Quiebracanto in La Candelaria.
SankarShetty
12-13-21, 15:03
I have RTFF the forum but requesting additional insight in to first trip questions-.
1. How do we broach question of allowing p4 p girls in to Airbnb with the hosts?. Are there particular areas where more Airbnb's are relaxed as to whether p4 p (street and online) girls can visit? Eg- chapinero central vs park 93?
2. How bad is the commute from 93 or mezzanine area to Santa Fe daily? Is it a good idea to stay in central chapinero and go up (mezzanine) and down (Santa Fe) ?
3. Is staying in IBIS museo good enough to meet SA girls outside and bring them in?
Glad you didn't fight. If you cause trouble, all gringos visiting there will pay directly or indirectly.
They are drug dealers and paying protection fee to the mafia, who pay to police.
The police there are on gangs' payroll, don't trust them.FWIW, I have also bowed-up on locals in Rio, Bogot and Mexico and, thankfully, the locals with whom I was with at the time, talked me down, de-escalated the situation and got me the F out of there. As my girl in Rio (who is former police) told me, we tourists never win these altercations. Almost all of the police in the locales I've referenced view these situations as a chance to rough-up / extort / take down an uppity gringo. It's best to fly low under the radar as much as possible.
Captain Solo
12-13-21, 18:06
Agree with Yossarian.
When travel it's best to fly under the radar, avoid altercations with locals, especially pissed off putas, and any interactions with policías. Remember what happened to the whitehouse's secret service guy in Cartagena? A whole bunch of agents and supervisors got fired from their fat jobs due to a screaming puta feeling cheated.
In my incident with puta and policía in front of iglesia Santa Cruz in plaza Botero, the puta was screaming at the top of her lungs, pointing at but not pursuing me. I had no idea of any precedents. I take pics anywhere I go. I could have just blended in the crowd and got off quietly, but I believe in journalistic rights, which may not exist in third world countries, and have been known to get journalists executed on the spot. Lucky the 2 policías had good humor, laughing at the pics of them, patrol car and putas all gathered at the church's front door. They looked embarrassed, deleted the pics, left a few and let me go. They acted professional and with restraints, shouting to the puta to shut up. I was lucky to get off, but will be more discreet and careful in future trips.
They later arrested that loud puta for something. Next couple days putas would walk past the church's courtyard but not stationing there, not leaning against the church.
The next day 2 cops on a motorbike questioned a local guy right at the church corner where I had bagged a few hot slim girls. The guy was explaining something to them with his phone but the older cop cuffed his right hand to his left, walked him to the station with the other cop following on the bike.
I would hate to share the filthy holding cell at the station with dozens criminals, waiting for the obese judge to eat, drink and fuck all his 10 young and hungry mistresses before he can hear my case.
Quiksilver
12-13-21, 23:03
I have RTFF the forum but requesting additional insight in to first trip questions-.
1. How do we broach question of allowing p4 p girls in to Airbnb with the hosts?. Are there particular areas where more Airbnb's are relaxed as to whether p4 p (street and online) girls can visit? Eg- chapinero central vs park 93?
2. How bad is the commute from 93 or mezzanine area to Santa Fe daily? Is it a good idea to stay in central chapinero and go up (mezzanine) and down (Santa Fe) ?
3. Is staying in IBIS museo good enough to meet SA girls outside and bring them in?1. Assuming you're not staying with a host in the same place, I personally have never had issues at any Bogota airbnb. I don't do it often and rather go to a love motel for safety reason ut I have done it. Just ask the girl to change into normal clothes. If they're coming to you, meet them outside at a coffee shop and enter the building together. You could also get an Airbnb with no security. This tends to be the case in the older / more centro part of Bogota like La Candelaria or some parts of Chapinero.
2. Distance wise, it's about 70 blocks. But more importantly, the traffic can be brutal during the day. Of course if you're going to SF at night, there will be far less traffic. Personally, I'd recommend staying closer to SF like in La Candelaria or Chapinero if you're planning to spend a lot of time in SF. Those areas can certainly be sketchier after dark than the area around 93. Neither are grittier than SF, so if you're going to bspendinga lot of time there anyways, you might as well be closer by.
3. Can't comment. Not familiar with IBIS.
Pussycat123
12-14-21, 06:03
Last time I was in Bogota I swore never to go back to Mezzanine because of those tiny uncomfortable rooms. Yet I found myself walking into the place again, multiple times.
The place seems more segregated than I remember, with the hottest chicks in the first room and progressive decline in beauty as you go towards the last door. The pricing also matches the progressive layers of subjective appeal, with the last door charging 60 k and the first door 150 k for the standard service. I opted for the first door, multiple times.
The two standouts were Leidi and Mia, both young and hot as hell. Leidi has a nice bubble but, speaks fluent English and is very polite, said she's college educated, which was believable. Good service. Mia was probably my best experience the entire trip. Very skilled sensual massage, mostly with her butt, followed by great energetic service. Highly recommended.
Went to Abejitas twice but only sessioned once with a pretty black skinny lady. Almost GFE service, really got into it.
Princesita is now called Piel De Miel. Sessioned here twice. The standout was Nicol who has worked here for at least a couple of years. Gives a muted but good service. The other lady (don't remember name) made me an unusual offer for such a place. A buffet of everything goes for an upcharge. I wasn't feeling like taking any wild risk so I declined. Standard session was still good.
Tried my staple eroticas Bogota three times, but unfortunately only one (a repeat) got on my excellent list. The other two were average at best; Jessica was GFE but a very lazy performer with questionable hygiene. Marcela was a tard better, but barely average by Bogota standards.
Happy mongering!What is the adressof Mezzanine? I searched on Google, coudlnt find it.
Silver Turtle
12-14-21, 17:00
It's Veracruz, not Santa Cruz, at Botero Plaza. Were you taking pics there? Very bad idea. Did you argue with putas rather than run away? Bad idea. They are constantly looking for preys for extortion. You were lucky that police intervened and acted fairly.
Agree with Yossarian.
When travel it's best to fly under the radar, avoid altercations with locals, especially pissed off putas, and any interactions with policas. Remember what happened to the whitehouse's secret service guy in Cartagena? A whole bunch of agents and supervisors got fired from their fat jobs due to a screaming puta feeling cheated.
In my incident with puta and polica in front of iglesia Santa Cruz in plaza Botero, the puta was screaming at the top of her lungs, pointing at but not pursuing me. I had no idea of any precedents. I take pics anywhere I go. I could have just blended in the crowd and got off quietly, but I believe in journalistic rights, which may not exist in third world countries, and have been known to get journalists executed on the spot. Lucky the 2 policas had good humor, laughing at the pics of them, patrol car and putas all gathered at the church's front door. They looked embarrassed, deleted the pics, left a few and let me go. They acted professional and with restraints, shouting to the puta to shut up. I was lucky to get off, but will be more discreet and careful in future trips.
They later arrested that loud puta for something. Next couple days putas would walk past the church's courtyard but not stationing there, not leaning against the church..
It's Veracruz, not Santa Cruz, at Botero Plaza. Were you taking pics there? Very bad idea. Did you argue with putas rather than run away? Bad idea. They are constantly looking for preys for extortion. You were lucky that police intervened and acted fairly.The putas will find a way to get even with him. Maybe we'll get to read about it, well one version of it.
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The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.
1.
En general airbnb host don't care. Especially if it's near SF. They know what's up. Most Airbnb have door security. They could care less. They just want a record of who comes in and out of the building. Don't be shy or feel awkward when you are with a working girl in these settings.
2. Really bad during rush hours. It's taken me 1 hour by taxi before. People remember Bogot is a huge city. Plan accordingly. I usually do casas during the day and SF in the evening. I've most stayed near SF. Staying up north when I was going to sf every day was a pain in the butt.
3. Any hotel near SF is good for that. Guys remember prostitution is legal. What's the door man or security going to do? Hoe shame you.
See below..I've booked a few Airbnb Rentals in Colombia and other other places and the first place I go when I see a place I like is the "house rules" section about 3/4 of the way down the page. If there are restrictions outlined, they are always here. If there are no restrictions listed, I send a nice note to the owner telling them "I love their place and want to book it but I have one question. Am I allowed to have guests over." More often than not, I get a response that is yes, within guidelines. Then they normally outline their guidelines such as ID check with guard / front desk, no minors, only to so many people at once, etc. Unfortunately I can't help on the Bogota specific question you've ask as I haven't made it there yet.
Enjoy your trip!
SamPeter71
12-15-21, 04:31
I ended up getting the test done at the hotel. They charged 190 k. I think that is the convenience fee.
Hope this helps other in the future.
Profamilia. CL 34 #14-52. Close to transmilenion Ave Caracas and 34 estacion. Only 5 mil Didi ride from CL59 and Septima. 90 mil and result in 30 min or so.
SamPeter71
12-15-21, 04:38
Yes, I agree.
But I did not go all the way from US to Bogota to find average chicks at clubs. I am just comparing SF to Tijuana from my point of view. Bogota is lot cheaper than Tijuana per session, but more expensive / comparable to Tijuana if you add the travel expenses.
Most I like about the Bogota is the quality of escort girls. I never tried escorts at Tijuana so I can't compare the escorts at Tijuana with Bogota.
Chicks in the Santa Fe clubs are not costing you US $80-100 either, as they are in HK.
SamPeter71
12-15-21, 04:47
I went to Lido club last week with couple of friends.
Club is one of the best ambience, Girls are good quality like 7 to 10 range. Very expensive but quality / ambience justifies this. But the attitude of the girls is very bad in my view. So it ismturn off for me.
When I pay the kind of money they expect, I expect them to be very friendly you know what I mean. I did not find that there. I haven't seen a single guy pick up a girl there. Everyone stayed for a while. I was there at least for 3 hours.
For me, escorts was best at Bogota. Very good quality and service.
I visited many casa in Chapinero today. I didn't find a Single girl for my liking. I spent 2 hours walking that area.
Also went to Pussyhosue with another ISG friend. It was really disappointing. Hardly any girls at 10.30 PM. Went to la 49 and it was closed.
Santa Fe clubs has much better girls both in numbers and quality.
Yes, Santa Fe street girls offer bad service. But clubs seems to be better in the Santa Fe.
I think most of the reports of distinction are out of date in Bogota. Please don't use the, for deciding where to go. Look only recent reports to get idea about the action.
Elvis 2008
12-15-21, 04:53
I have RTFF the forum but requesting additional insight in to first trip questions-.
2. How bad is the commute from 93 or mezzanine area to Santa Fe daily? Is it a good idea to stay in central chapinero and go up (mezzanine) and down (Santa Fe) ?
3. Is staying in IBIS museo good enough to meet SA girls outside and bring them in?With 2, as said it varies based on the time, if traffic is back to pre-Covid levels, I would say an hour during the day and 30 minutes late at night with little to no traffic.
Okay, so the cafe at Ibis is okay so meeting a girl there and talking to her and having a bite or a drink is okay. Thing is the inside hotel room is like Motel 6.
When I brought a SA girl to Ibis, usually they would want to talk money because a guy staying there might not have any.
There is a hotel called the NH Bogota Urban 26 Royal, and it is very close to Santa Fe, like $55 a night, and the rooms are beautiful. I have never had any problem bringing a woman into a hotel in Bogota so I cannot swear it is girl friendly, but I would be surprised if it is not. Unlike Ibis, you cannot walk to Santa Fe (you can it's just not going to be 20 minutes like Ibis).
I can tell you bringing SA women into the Marriott or Marriott Airport Courtyard (much cheaper around $70 a night) was a way different experience than Ibis. I cannot recall any time I met a SA woman in a Marriott where they asked for money, and I liked it that way. You are projecting that this is the life you will have if you hang with me. And there were no problem bringing in women to either place. I would actually say the Courtyard is actually easier to sneak women in and out of.
World Travel 69
12-15-21, 15:08
There are grouped together around Av. Carrera 15 #104-03, Mezzanine 5 / 6. GPS 4. 689096, -74.047058.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1Y7d556oDwhh_X83ZCec7ItKPaXQ&ll=4.70342240054839%2C-74.04559714999999&z=13
What is the address of the Mezzanines? I searched on Google, couldn't find it.
With 2, as said it varies based on the time, if traffic is back to pre-Covid levels, I would say an hour during the day and 30 minutes late at night with little to no traffic.
Okay, so the cafe at Ibis is okay so meeting a girl there and talking to her and having a bite or a drink is okay. Thing is the inside hotel room is like Motel 6.
When I brought a SA girl to Ibis, usually they would want to talk money because a guy staying there might not have any.
There is a hotel called the NH Bogota Urban 26 Royal, and it is very close to Santa Fe, like $55 a night, and the rooms are beautiful. I have never had any problem bringing a woman into a hotel in Bogota so I cannot swear it is girl friendly, but I would be surprised if it is not. Unlike Ibis, you cannot walk to Santa Fe (you can it's just not going to be 20 minutes like Ibis).
I can tell you bringing SA women into the Marriott or Marriott Airport Courtyard (much cheaper around $70 a night) was a way different experience than Ibis. I cannot recall any time I met a SA woman in a Marriott where they asked for money, and I liked it that way. You are projecting that this is the life you will have if you hang with me. And there were no problem bringing in women to either place. I would actually say the Courtyard is actually easier to sneak women in and out of.I don't understand why are you sneaking them in. Are you not paying for 2 adults per night anyway when you make the rsvp. What is so hard about just reporting your guest when and if the front desk asks? Thanks for the hotel NH Bogota Urban 26 Royal tip. I will check it out this time around. Hotel Tequendama and hotel San Fran on cra 10 is also near SF. $35 per night. Also if you have time and patience. If you call the hotel directly you will get a better rate than Booking.com.
Grow sum nuts guys!
I don't understand why are you sneaking them in. Are you not paying for 2 adults per night anyway when you make the rsvp. What is so hard about just reporting your guest when and if the front desk asks? Thanks for the hotel NH Bogota Urban 26 Royal tip. I will check it out this time around. Hotel Tequendama and hotel San Fran on cra 10 is also near SF. $35 per night. Also if you have time and patience. If you call the hotel directly you will get a better rate than Booking.com.
Grow sum nuts guys!This topic has been discussed since time immemorial. Huge nuts won't help you get the girl in at a hotel that wants its cut. And it doesn't matter that you've booked double occupancy. There are plenty of hotels in Bogota that will charge a joiner fee or would only allow guests till 8 or 9. If you don't ask in advance and refuse to pony up at the reception, you might find your girl turned away. Although your cojones would still be allowed to stay in your bed, LOL.
I just saw this-- posted 4 hrs ago.
I got drugged and robbed last Sunday night.
You read that correctly, and no I am not joking.
When I woke up Monday, I thought to myself "wow I can't believe two beers got me blackout hammered."
The next thing I know, my iPhone 12 ($1200), iPad Pro 12.9 in ($1800), magic keyboard ($300), my chargers, and a handful of cash ($150) were all missing.
At first, I thought I misplaced them in my small apartment, and then I realized this woman who I took on a beautiful date, stole all my shit.
This all started on Tinder. I have done this numerous times. I have the exact "science" of matching with a girl, getting her number, and planning a fancy little date.
Not to brag but in Medellin, this process is very easy and has worked for me more times than I can count.
Last Friday I matched with this "cute, normal" girl and followed the same ole process.
We planned the date for Sunday night. So the first thing is I had her do is come to my house for a beer.
Nothing out of the ordinary. We got to know each other a bit. She actually spoke zero English, and my Spanish is very broken (although I am taking lessons twice a week).
We then went to one of my favorite restaurants in the area called "Gato". We spent an hour or so there, had a good meal and then we both wanted to come back to my place.
When we got back, I cracked open the last beer and we were sharing it. We were dancing in my apartment and slowly things started escalating.
The next thing I remember is waking up in my bed at around 11:30 am, fully clothed, confused, dazed, and incredibly dehydrated.
I truthfully had no clue what happened.
When I noticed my stuff went missing, I went to the security guy but I was barely conscious enough to speak. Thankfully two of my buddies noticed that I was missing (shout out to Christian my COO alerting the area) took me to the hospital.
What's crazy is that I don't even remember going there on Monday.
Yesterday I slowly regained my consciousness and today I am finally back to normal.
Fellas. Getting drugged and robbed is a real fucking thing. I obviously knew it was just never in my wildest dreams thought it would happen to me.
Please do not just let any cute girl into your house. When everything seems to be way too easy, please know it could be a huge red flag.
Ladies, do not just go to a stranger's house without at least talking on the phone with them. Always meet at a public place first and always have some sort of weapon cause some guys can have a lot more strength than you.
Medellin, Colombia I love you. This was a lesson I never wanted but needed.
P.S: If anyone knows this girl, I hope she gets locked up or tries to rob the wrong gringo and gets punished.
ArmnHammer69
12-16-21, 07:39
Hi,
I'm arriving in Bogotá soon and was curious if the strip clubs are open after Christmas and on New Years? Trying to make new years plans.
Elvis 2008
12-16-21, 08:31
I don't understand why are you sneaking them in. Are you not paying for 2 adults per night anyway when you make the rsvp. What is so hard about just reporting your guest when and if the front desk asks?
Grow sum nuts guys!As Xpartan says, that has nothing to do with it. Not only does it vary by hotel policy, it matters who is watching the front. At the Marriott Medellin, I brought in two SA women and they were not dressed up well. The manager was there and hit me up for a huge visitor fee. Then a night clerk was on who did not care and I moved someone in no problem.
I have never had any problem with Ibis or with the Bogota Marriott's but I do not want to take that chance if I do not have to, and things have changed for some hotels post Covid for the worst. If I can have a drink with a woman in the lobby and sneak her up, why would I not want to do that rather than take the chance of registering her and paying a fine? That makes no sense.
Hi,
I'm arriving in Bogot soon and was curious if the strip clubs are open after Christmas and on New Years? Trying to make new years plans.Not much happening usually.
Captain Solo
12-16-21, 18:56
Wow.
I feel bad for the guy who got drugged and robbed by such an ordinary-looking girls. Crime risks seem to be very high in South America. Don't know how long he will be in Colombia, but he should definitely file reports with her pictures with SA and policias. May be they would get off their asses and do something about it. Or he can hire "private investigators" to find her and recover the stolen items. Private investigators have connections to the underworld and can track down these girls.
A Vennie girl in front of Space club in CTG stole my Android phone with all my contact info, travel arrangements and docs. Lucky I had hard copies of all those documents, or the trip would have to be canceled.
Put al your valuables, including passport, phones, computers in a suitcase, lock it up and chain it to the bed so the thieving girls can't drug you and run away with it. Better yet, just stay the hell away from those ugly, thieving women of Colombia.
JonesLover
12-16-21, 19:33
Hi,
In your opinion is it better Bogota or Cali to meet regular girls and to take them to bed easily? For a young guy any Colombian city is good for fucking regular and beautiful girls, but not for old men. Jajajaja For this reason I am asking for info from people who know and have been to both cities.
Thank you for your pleasant info.
I don't understand why are you sneaking them in. Are you not paying for 2 adults per night anyway when you make the rsvp. What is so hard about just reporting your guest when and if the front desk asks? Thanks for the hotel NH Bogota Urban 26 Royal tip. I will check it out this time around. Hotel Tequendama and hotel San Fran on cra 10 is also near SF. $35 per night. Also if you have time and patience. If you call the hotel directly you will get a better rate than Booking.com.
Grow sum nuts guys!My recent experience was that I booked for 2, but they needed the ID of the second guest before I arrived. So I sent it. She was the only one allowed in, and even then it was not easy. Security guys had to check with the front desk each time that she was a registered guest.
So no, you are not necessarily paying for any 2 adults when you register. You are paying for yourself and a specified other person, and only that other person. Nothing to do with nuts.
NeilGeorge
12-17-21, 02:05
Hi,
In your opinion is it better Bogota or Cali to meet regular girls and to take them to bed easily? For a young guy any Colombian city is good for fucking regular and beautiful girls, but not for old men. Jajajaja For this reason I am asking for info from people who know and have been to both cities.
Thank you for your pleasant info.Cali used to be the marriage agency place, like 30 year ago, and one could meet regular girls that way. Then Colombia got Farca safe and the women did not want to leave. Weather is fairly warm but ok with ceiling fans.
Bogota is very cold, hard to breathe. Santa Fe is the best place to meet girls. Have not met any regular girls there. Likely is my age.
LatinaLover#1
12-17-21, 02:13
Hi,
In your opinion is it better Bogota or Cali to meet regular girls and to take them to bed easily? For a young guy any Colombian city is good for fucking regular and beautiful girls, but not for old men. Jajajaja For this reason I am asking for info from people who know and have been to both cities.
Thank you for your pleasant info.I have done very well over the years in Bogota. Only been to Cali a few times most times with a special non pro. As dangerous as Bogota is, Cali is more so.
The answer to your question is simple.
Population:
Cali- 2. 2 million.
Bogota at or near 9 million The odds are much better in Bogota.
LatinaLover#1
12-17-21, 02:23
Hi,
I'm arriving in Bogot soon and was curious if the strip clubs are open after Christmas and on New Years? Trying to make new years plans.The week between Christmas and New year might possibly be the slowest week of the year for mongering in Latin America. Good Luck.
Change your plans. It's literally the worse time to go.
Hi,
I'm arriving in Bogot soon and was curious if the strip clubs are open after Christmas and on New Years? Trying to make new years plans.
Change your plans. It's literally the worse time to go.Along with semana Santa. I always wondered why tourist choose to visit Latin America during these holiday stretches.
So I'm writing this in the taxi on my way back from SF at 7 am.
Wrapping up the after hours scene of SF. I arrived super late last night. Immigration lines were super long so I didn't get to my hotel Until 2 am. Thanks for the recommendation of hotel. I'm staying at the NH hotel Bogot Urbano 26 royal. A short taxi to SF and a 15 min ride to the airport. In summary SF was a blast. When I arrived at 3 am to SF the after-hours scene was just getting started. I keep going in and out of the clubs until I saw what I liked and then it happened. A caraquea with curly hair and a body to die far smiled at me. It was a wrap after that. We shared 3 beers for 20 k and then went up to the pieza. She charged 60 k. They be trying charge 80 k but I be giving them that GET THE F* OUT OF HERE look. After we had a decent fuck we went back downstairs. Since I slept on the plane I didn't want to sleep yet so I ordered a 1/2 of rum 80 k not knowing it includes a lap dance. Score. LOL. I don't typically drink in these scenarios but I felt safe and I wasn't going to drink a lot. The idea is to get the girl tipsy so that the lap dance is more frisky. Overall I had a great night. My night ends at about 645 am with a nice joint session with one of the staff members that recognized me from the last time. Perfect night cap. Now I'm at the hotel having a great breakfast and night night!
Along with semana Santa. I always wondered why tourist choose to visit Latin America during these holiday stretches.Because its when they get time off.
Mr Enternational
12-17-21, 16:22
Along with semana Santa. I always wondered why tourist choose to visit Latin America during these holiday stretches.Because that is when they have time off work, same as Latin Americans.
Pussycat123
12-18-21, 04:56
Whether girls are allowed into a particular residence (airbnb, hotel, etc) depends on many factors including the building's policy, the owner's policy, the security company, or even which guard is working that day.
For example, I stayed in an airbnb near to Santa Fe back in September for 10 days. It was in a tower with many residences.
I was bringing in two or three girls per day.
They had a security guard 24/7, but most times I just walked past with my guest.
Then one day, there was a female security guard and she insisted on checking IDs, and recording the information on her computer.
And guess what, one girl showed up without ID. Undocumented Venny I guess. And the security guard wouldn't let her in.
Then we called the airbnb host who said the policy is actually to protect residents from being drugged, robbed or whatever.
Finally, the security guard said the girl could enter if we signed a waiver to say that if anything bad happens its not the security companies fault.
After that, every time I brought a girl back I told her no ID, no entry, and I took her to the security guard to register even if it was the lax guys working who didn't care, because I realised it was actually in my interest. It put the girl on notice that if something goes down, we know who you are.
Hi,
In your opinion is it better Bogota or Cali to meet regular girls and to take them to bed easily? For a young guy any Colombian city is good for fucking regular and beautiful girls, but not for old men. Jajajaja For this reason I am asking for info from people who know and have been to both cities.
Thank you for your pleasant info.How many girls do you need and how much time do you have to spend to pickup one pussy? If you are good to pick up the girls, you don't need to travel anywhere. Stay at your place, its less expense. Or do you think that the girls will stay in the line on your arrival? Anyway you need to pay the money, that is why go to Santa Fe.
Quiksilver
12-18-21, 18:42
Hi,
In your opinion is it better Bogota or Cali to meet regular girls and to take them to bed easily? For a young guy any Colombian city is good for fucking regular and beautiful girls, but not for old men. Jajajaja For this reason I am asking for info from people who know and have been to both cities.
Thank you for your pleasant info.Bogota and it's (mostly) not close. It's just a far bigger city with much more going on. The one caveat I would maybe give is if you dance salsa well. Cali just lives and breathes salsa and, considering there are generally far less gringos in Cali, that would help a lot. The times I've pulled regular chicks or seen others do it, there was generally salsa involved and the girls there being impressed that an extranjero can hold his own or sometimes better.
My vote would still be Bogota with the added bonus that Santa Fe is infinitely bigger and better than La Veinte should you want to use that as a backup plan.
Mr Enternational
12-18-21, 21:06
The one caveat I would maybe give is if you dance salsa well. Cali just lives and breathes salsa and, considering there are generally far less gringos in Cali, that would help a lot.Where do you guys get this dancing idea from? In almost 17 years I have danced in Colombia 2 or 3 times and I pretty much only deal with chicks I do not give money to. Salsa clubs are not the only place to meet a woman. File this one with not being able to wear shorts and baseball caps.
Quiksilver
12-18-21, 21:43
Where do you guys get this dancing idea from? In almost 17 years I have danced in Colombia 2 or 3 times and I pretty much only deal with chicks I do not give money to. Salsa clubs are not the only place to meet a woman. File this one with not being able to wear shorts and baseball caps.Congratulation. You get a cookie. OP asked for recommendations / difference between the two cities and I thought I'd give my two cents.
The ironic thing is that I'm not American, love dancing in general, and don't do shorts (unless I'm at the beach or the gym) or baseball caps.
Also, seems to me that a guy who has only danced 2 or 3 times over 17 years in Colombia is about as gringo a thing as you can get.
Where do you guys get this dancing idea from? In almost 17 years I have danced in Colombia 2 or 3 times and I pretty much only deal with chicks I do not give money to. Salsa clubs are not the only place to meet a woman. File this one with not being able to wear shorts and baseball caps.What is the point to go to Colombia to dance? And jump around a girl for some time to get her laid? When you can pay 20 $ and she will spread her legs. If not she than the other one. And you can choose and do her in 5 min.
JonesLover
12-19-21, 12:49
How many girls do you need and how much time do you have to spend to pickup one pussy? If you are good to pick up the girls, you don't need to travel anywhere. Stay at your place, its less expense. Or do you think that the girls will stay in the line on your arrival? Anyway you need to pay the money, that is why go to Santa Fe.You didn't read my post well. I don't like Pro girls and in Santa Fe there are only pros.
Sure, I have to pay, I already know it, but there are also girls who accept money or gifts for different reasons and they aren't pro.
I understand you never went to Cali, or if you went to Cali, you don't know this interesting city.
JonesLover
12-19-21, 13:01
Bogota and it's (mostly) not close. It's just a far bigger city with much more going on. The one caveat I would maybe give is if you dance salsa well. Cali just lives and breathes salsa and, considering there are generally far less gringos in Cali, that would help a lot. The times I've pulled regular chicks or seen others do it, there was generally salsa involved and the girls there being impressed that an extranjero can hold his own or sometimes better.
My vote would still be Bogota with the added bonus that Santa Fe is infinitely bigger and better than La Veinte should you want to use that as a backup plan.I always have around 25-28 free days and I always rent an apartment. I need 2-3 girls only because I'd like to get a good girlfriend experience. If Bogota is big, it doesn't matter for me because I only fish online, since it's not my style to stop a girl on the street or mall and start talking to her.
Then I don't dance at all The only thing that worries me is the cold of Bogota which gives me goosebumps and my cock won't straighten. Jajajaja.
I will think carefully about your recommendations.
I don't understand if you know Cali well because I would also like to know: will I spend more money doing these things of mine in Bogota than in Cali?
What is the point to go to Colombia to dance? And jump around a girl for some time to get her laid? When you can pay 20 $ and she will spread her legs. If not she than the other one. And you can choose and do her in 5 min.Some of us prefer to do things other than just fuck when we visit a country.
Quiksilver
12-19-21, 17:40
I always have around 25-28 free days and I always rent an apartment. I need 2-3 girls only because I'd like to get a good girlfriend experience. If Bogota is big, it doesn't matter for me because I only fish online, since it's not my style to stop a girl on the street or mall and start talking to her.
Then I don't dance at all The only thing that worries me is the cold of Bogota which gives me goosebumps and my cock won't straighten. Jajajaja.
I will think carefully about your recommendations.
I don't understand if you know Cali well because I would also like to know: will I spend more money doing these things of mine in Bogota than in Cali?Think I know where you're coming from. I've lived in both but more familiar with Bogota and sounds like where you're leaning. This is all subjective, but here's my take.
In my experiences with non-Colombianos in Bog, it all depends on pretty much which climate they were used to or had just come from. For those from Canada, northern US, most of Europe, and other colder climates, it wasn't problem. For those that were used to warmer climates or maybe had just come from Cartagena or Santa Marta, it was more of an issue for them.
Another poster mentioned about it being hard to breathe in BOG. That's more so because of the high elevation but is an important consideration for anyone with respiratory, vascular or similar health problems.
It doesn't appear that you mentioned anything about your level of Spanish, but if you don't speak any at all or very limited, Bogota will be a better choice. Bogota being the capital and financial heart of Colombia means you're more likely to find someone who speaks English. Plus, it's 4 or 5 x the size of Cali population-wise, so you're more likely to find what you're looking for from a numbers game.
I enjoyed my time living in Cali and loads of fun hanging out in the San Antonio and Grenada neighborhoods of Cali. Las Brisas discoteca closer to Jamundi is one of my favorite salsa places in the world. I'm sure other can offer their opinions here and Colombia is a fun-loving country wherever, but I just don't believe a person who isn't a dancer would enjoy Cali as much. Also, I don't have any numbers but my guess is that there's a higher proportion of people in BOG who speak English compared to Cali. One thing Cali does have going for it is that it generally has a lower cost of living and that includes the novias.
Honestly, if you're going to spend almost a month there, I'd say just go to Bogota and that's especially true if you don't speak much Spanish. If the cold becomes an issue, you could always just take one of your novias (or both) on a bus ride to one of the surrounding towns like Melgar or Girardot for a few days or whatever. I don't remember exactly but believe they are maybe 2 or 3 hours away. They're both much warmer than Bogota and with lots of swimming pools.
Villavicencio in the south could also be an option. Very warm and much flatter terrain for those with mobility issues. Don't remember exactly either but maybe 2 hours away from BOG.
Even if you hate it, domestic flights are very inexpensive out of Bogota in case you want to check out other destinations within the country including Cali.
Quiksilver
12-19-21, 18:11
What is the point to go to Colombia to dance? And jump around a girl for some time to get her laid? When you can pay 20 $ and she will spread her legs. If not she than the other one. And you can choose and do her in 5 min.Who said anything about going to Colombia just to dance? Dancing is far more engrained into Colombian culture (and especially Calenos) even compared to many other Latin American countries like Chile or Bolivia for example. There's a reason why some call Cali the salsa capital of the world and would probably be worth mentioning to someone asking about Cali.
I get that some don't enjoy dancing, but I do it because it's a blast. Maybe you like golf. I can't fucking stand it, but who cares really? Different strokes for different folks. Last thing I'll say is that I've met very women internationally who didn't at least appreciate or weren't attracted to a man who could dance. That goes for regular chicks and pros. Anyone who doesn't think it makes a difference when it's time for the bedroom with either is greatly mistaken.
It doesn't cost a thing and for me at least, far preferable to talking up some chick in a bar for a few hours and going about it that way.
But again, different strokes for different folks.
Congratulation. You get a cookie. OP asked for recommendations / difference between the two cities and I thought I'd give my two cents.
The ironic thing is that I'm not American, love dancing in general, and don't do shorts (unless I'm at the beach or the gym) or baseball caps.
Also, seems to me that a guy who has only danced 2 or 3 times over 17 years in Colombia is about as gringo a thing as you can get.Exactly QuickS!
Enjoy Colombia!
Dancing is definitely a big part of the culture and fun, regardless if anther guy has only done it 3 times in almost 20 years.
So what? LOL.
There will always be those to interject how their way is better and they never have to pay, etc, etc, 🤦*♂️
Enjoy!
JonesLover
12-19-21, 18:39
Think I know where you're coming from. I've lived in both but more familiar with Bogota and sounds like where you're leaning. This is all subjective, but here's my take.
In my experiences with non-Colombianos in Bog, it all depends on pretty much which climate they were used to or had just come from. For those from Canada, northern US, most of Europe, and other colder climates, it wasn't problem. For those that were used to warmer climates or maybe had just come from Cartagena or Santa Marta, it was more of an issue for them.I am writing to you only to answer your doubts.
1) I speak fluent Spanish.
2) Before I have 25 days completely free, I will have to do a very exhausting job, a trek in the mountains. So in those 25 free days I'm not interested in having fun outside my comfortable apartment, I just want to rest and leave the house for a little while, perhaps to go to some restaurant. I would like to meet 2-3 girls who stay with me for 7-10 days each. I like listening to music, cooking and doing many things.
Certainly I have to look for girls on social media before meeting them. I am a funny type and I love to play. But I have to pay money for them, I already know this. . And as I like beautiful girls, I will have to pay more.
So maybe, it would be better to go to a cheaper Colombian city if I don't leave home a little, at least I can save money. Don't you think this?
Certainly Colombia is not Africa, but in Africa the girls were crazy to stay with me for 10 days in my apartment.
What a pity! Jajaja.
Quiksilver
12-19-21, 19:39
I am writing to you only to answer your doubts.
1) I speak fluent Spanish.
2) Before I have 25 days completely free, I will have to do a very exhausting job, a trek in the mountains. So in those 25 free days I'm not interested in having fun outside my comfortable apartment, I just want to rest and leave the house for a little while, perhaps to go to some restaurant. I would like to meet 2-3 girls who stay with me for 7-10 days each. I like listening to music, cooking and doing many things.
Certainly I have to look for girls on social media before meeting them. I am a funny type and I love to play. But I have to pay money for them, I already know this. . And as I like beautiful girls, I will have to pay more.
So maybe, it would be better to go to a cheaper Colombian city if I don't leave home a little, at least I can save money. Don't you think this?.Speaking Spanish will open up many more options. Just going by experiences here, but I would say Cali is maybe around 20% cheaper on average than Bogota. Definitely not as hectic as Bogota and much warmer. BOG and Cartagena are probably the two most expensive places generally speaking in Colombia with Medellin creeping up not far behind. Once you go outside of those cities, general living costs can be much lower. I myself will be going to Bucaramanga soon for 2 or 3 months and have noticed prices seems to be noticeably lower than Bogota.
Elvis 2008
12-19-21, 22:09
I am writing to you only to answer your doubts.
Before I have 25 days completely free, I will have to do a very exhausting job, a trek in the mountains. So in those 25 free days I'm not interested in having fun outside my comfortable apartment, I just want to rest and leave the house for a little while, perhaps to go to some restaurant. I would like to meet 2-3 girls who stay with me for 7-10 days each. I like listening to music, cooking and doing many things.
Certainly I have to look for girls on social media before meeting them. I am a funny type and I love to play. But I have to pay money for them, I already know this. . And as I like beautiful girls, I will have to pay more.
So maybe, it would be better to go to a cheaper Colombian city if I don't leave home a little, at least I can save money. Don't you think this?.JL, go to seeking.com and put up a profile of what you want. There was this guy named Dublin who ignored what I said and tried to get a bunch of hos and turn them into arrangement type girls, and they robbed him blind. Using seeking is not going to 100% prevent that, but you can start chatting with the gals now and see what they are like and if they are of sound character. Yes, it is $100 but it is well worth it to get the arrangement you want.
I would hate to see what happened to Dublin happen to you. Also, do not get fixated on one girl. Rotate as many as you can and be willing to listen to what they want and do some of what they want (their music, their food, their fun).
Also, if you find two that like each other, it is much better to have a party of 3. Usually when people are in groups of 3 (or more), boredom does not follow so much.
One guy is on here talking about how terrible Colombia is and how much better Mexico is. He has his point but the thing I mentioned is that he was hanging in the gutters. When I used seeking, I met some ho types, but I also met women who were the earners for their family and who cared for their grandparents and would do anything for them, lawyers, medical students, and engineers. It was pretty standard though that the women with jobs worked 6 days a week, so you are likely going to have to make do with students and the unemployed. I met amazing women from seeking and it bugs me to see everyone say "Eh, they're all a bunch of hos on there. " They are not, not by a long shot.
Over the last 2 years, I met a few women in Medellin, a dozen in Bogota, and two in Cali who would fulfill what you want. You want an arrangement so you should go to the place where women are looking for that too.
JonesLover
12-20-21, 15:16
JL, go to seeking.com and put up a profile of what you want. There was this guy named Dublin who ignored what I said and tried to get a bunch of hos and turn them into arrangement type girls, and they robbed him blind. Using seeking is not going to 100% prevent that, but you can start chatting with the gals now and see what they are like and if they are of sound character. Yes, it is $100 but it is well worth it to get the arrangement you want.I have never gone to Dublin, although I would like to go. Jajajaaja.
You're right about everything, but do you know what bothers me about Colombian girls? Only one thing, because I love Colombia and the kindness of the people. All the girls I spoke to online asked me for money. This bothers me a lot. Yet I'm sure they weren't pro, they were normal girls. In Cali I only met 1-2 girls in 25 days, for this very reason.
I usually give gifts if the girls stay with me and in the end, when I leave, I always give them some money, because I understand that they need it and I would always but always make them happy and I am happy too that they are with me in a comfortable way. I am always careful about this and their requests when we be together, but when a girl asks me for money before meeting me, she annoys me a lot and I don't keep talking anymore.
Maybe Colombia is not for me?
I am still a bit confused whether it is safe to visit Santa Fe during 7-10 PM by taking a taxi or Uber to the well known clubs and restricting one to the small area? And I guess one has to use taxi or Uber to leave as well?
Or is it an area that should be avoided by solo and / or first time travelers?
Mr Enternational
12-20-21, 19:59
It was pretty standard though that the women with jobs worked 6 days a week, so you are likely going to have to make do with students and the unemployed.Exactly. Women work 5 or 6 days per week and students study likewise. There are not too many chicks in Colombia sitting idly around that will be able to stay with him for 7 to 10 days if they are not hookers. Normal chicks have responsibilities to tend to. They can not just take a break from life because he comes to town.
I am still a bit confused whether it is safe to visit Santa Fe during 7-10 PM by taking a taxi or Uber to the well known clubs and restricting one to the small area? And I guess one has to use taxi or Uber to leave as well?
Or is it an area that should be avoided by solo and / or first time travelers?You should be fine if you take normal everyday precautions. All the clubs are in the same area most on CR 16 a.
You can take Uber or taxi out too-.
LatinaLover#1
12-21-21, 03:33
JL, go to seeking.com and put up a profile of what you want. There was this guy named Dublin who ignored what I said and tried to get a bunch of hos and turn them into arrangement type girls, and they robbed him blind. Using seeking is not going to 100% prevent that, but you can start chatting with the gals now and see what they are like and if they are of sound character. Yes, it is $100 but it is well worth it to get the arrangement you want.
I would hate to see what happened to Dublin happen to you. Also, do not get fixated on one girl. Rotate as many as you can and be willing to listen to what they want and do some of what they want (their music, their food, their fun).
Also, if you find two that like each other, it is much better to have a party of 3. Usually when people are in groups of 3 (or more), boredom does not follow so much.
One guy is on here talking about how terrible Colombia is and how much better Mexico is. He has his point but the thing I mentioned is that he was hanging in the gutters. When I used seeking, I met some ho types, but I also met women who were the earners for their family and who cared for their grandparents and would do anything for them, lawyers, medical students, and engineers. It was pretty standard though that the women with jobs worked 6 days a week, so you are likely going to have to make do with students and the unemployed. I met amazing women from seeking and it bugs me to see everyone say "Eh, they're all a bunch of hos on there. " They are not, not by a long shot.
Over the last 2 years, I met a few women in Medellin, a dozen in Bogota, and two in Cali who would fulfill what you want. You want an arrangement so you should go to the place where women are looking for that too.Beginning in January, SA will raise the price AGAIN. They just might be the most expensive dating site out there now. I had good results in years past with SA, when it was 69, then 79 a month but it kept on going up and usefullness going down. Since the pandemic seems like more and more scams and chics on there with no intention of meeting and only want to sell photos. Lots of fake profiles, you'll find the same girl in different cities within a few hours of each other, because they are not real and are fishing. Lots of profiles disappear from view overnight etc. Etc. It is possible to find a good one here and there, if you invest enough time and money into it but in my opinion, it ain't what it use to be.
Elvis 2008
12-21-21, 03:34
I have never gone to Dublin, although I would like to go. Jajajaaja.
You're right about everything, but do you know what bothers me about Colombian girls? Only one thing, because I love Colombia and the kindness of the people. All the girls I spoke to online asked me for money. This bothers me a lot. Yet I'm sure they weren't pro, they were normal girls. In Cali I only met 1-2 girls in 25 days, for this very reason.
I usually give gifts if the girls stay with me and in the end, when I leave, I always give them some money, because I understand that they need it and I would always but always make them happy and I am happy too that they are with me in a comfortable way. I am always careful about this and their requests when we be together, but when a girl asks me for money before meeting me, she annoys me a lot and I don't keep talking anymore.
Maybe Colombia is not for me?There were plenty of women I met who did not ask for a price, and Mr. E will tell you the same thing. He says if they are not hos, he is not giving them anything.
In my case, I think the women have to be educated on arrangements. I would tell them that I prefer helping out women who are my friends versus paying for sex. If I want to pay for sex, I will get a ho and ask are you a ho? What do you think most of them said? So we have to meet each other and see if we get along and can be friends. My goal really was that of a friend. I wanted to have fun with them, help meet their needs, and also yes to bang them but in general I would prefer to fuck someone I like versus just pay.
And you know the song, "Girls just want to have fun? I swear to God most guys do not get that. My gal just showed me a cool picnic she went to that was fun, but most guys are horrible hosts. I am taking the women to dinners, shows, snorkeling, cliff diving, boating ETC, and the Colombian guys are like, "Let's go to the local bar, dance, get smashed, and fuck. " Today's women often leave men out of boredom, and who do you think is boring them? It is not me.
It is not the women in Colombia JL. What are you offering the women outside of money?
JonesLover
12-21-21, 13:05
There were plenty of women I met who did not ask for a price, and Mr. E will tell you the same thing. He says if they are not hos, he is not giving them anything.Maybe you have not read that right or you have not understood that I am old, even if kind and god looking and 24-30 year old girls want money from me, even if they aren't pro, or refuse to meet me. I am sure you are under 65. If you were that age, you wouldn't write these things here.
Captain Solo
12-21-21, 13:22
Should be safe with taxi to the club. There are plenty of taxis roaming around the blocks, but you would still have to walk around the blocks to other clubs. Would be silly to flag down taxis for 100 ft rides. There are a few police on foot patrol at major intersections.
If I were you I would take pics of all my docs, passport, CoVid certs, all travel arrangement. Print out a copy of your passport and CoVid certs, keep them in your pocket with just enough cash to spend. Lock everything up in your hotel safe. Hold your phone and money in pockets with both hands.
Hold a steel pen in your pocket. Be aware of people following you. Occasionally stop, back up against the wall, wait and look around for potential attackers. If attacked, jab them with whatever you have in your hand and scream out for help "Ayuda!" Better yet, go with a wingman. Contact Woodman for a guided tour until you know the area and feel confident.
Just be careful so you feel safe, but after the first day I was walking back and forth from the hotel San Francisco on Carr 10,3 blocks to cal 24, turned right at the Mobile gas station and walked down to Carr 13,14,15 where the clubs and girls are, and walked back alone after midnight. The streets were dark and dirty, reek with feces and urine, with dark shadowy guys moping around, but there were cops with their flashing motos at a few intersections. If attacked I could fight back, scream and run to them.
Perhaps you should go only during the afternoon to feel safe. The streets are packed with people with enough talents for most tastes.
There were plenty of women I met who did not ask for a price, and Mr. E will tell you the same thing. He says if they are not hos, he is not giving them anything.
In my case, I think the women have to be educated on arrangements. I would tell them that I prefer helping out women who are my friends versus paying for sex. If I want to pay for sex, I will get a ho and ask are you a ho? What do you think most of them said? So we have to meet each other and see if we get along and can be friends. My goal really was that of a friend. I wanted to have fun with them, help meet their needs, and also yes to bang them but in general I would prefer to fuck someone I like versus just pay.
And you know the song, "Girls just want to have fun? I swear to God most guys do not get that. My gal just showed me a cool picnic she went to that was fun, but most guys are horrible hosts. I am taking the women to dinners, shows, snorkeling, cliff diving, boating ETC, and the Colombian guys are like, "Let's go to the local bar, dance, get smashed, and fuck. " Today's women often leave men out of boredom, and who do you think is boring them? It is not me.Everything depends on your psychology and your needs. Don't think that you do it for a Colombian girls. You do it for yourself. Some people just want to be a dady. And they ready to pay for being DADY. It is not bad and not good. Some people want to impress other people with their dancing and they need romance and they do it for themselves not for girls. If you will except that, all your needs and behaviors, you will understand other people.
Should be safe with taxi to the club. There are plenty of taxis roaming around the blocks, but you would still have to walk around the blocks to other clubs. Would be silly to flag down taxis for 100 ft rides. There are a few police on foot patrol at major intersections.
If I were you I would take pics of all my docs, passport, CoVid certs, all travel arrangement. Print out a copy of your passport and CoVid certs, keep them in your pocket with just enough cash to spend. Lock everything up in your hotel safe. Hold your phone and money in pockets with both hands.
Hold a steel pen in your pocket. Be aware of people following you. Occasionally stop, back up against the wall, wait and look around for potential attackers. If attacked, jab them with whatever you have in your hand and scream out for help "Ayuda!" Better yet, go with a wingman. Contact Woodman for a guided tour until you know the area and feel confident.
Just be careful so you feel safe, but after the first day I was walking back and forth from the hotel San Francisco on Carr 10,3 blocks to cal 24, turned right at the Mobile gas station and walked down to Carr 13,14,15 where the clubs and girls are, and walked back alone after midnight..You think like children about your safety in Santa Fe. You are trying to prove yourself if it is safe there or not. Stay in the main block and you are safe most likely. Because it's a controlled zone. But anything can happen anywhere. Even in your bedroom. Your wife will get creasy and hit you with something or you can find someone under your bed. If you are scared to get a punch in your face, stay home. If you go more far from the area, you may get less safety. If you pick up a girl a few blocks down the street, there is more chance that she works with someone and lives in the area because there are street rules, and locals want to keep and make money in their area. In addition, the most problem time is when you are fucking the girl and leaving the place because, it is the best time to make advantage of you. And the problem is not to lose a few hundred bucks or your phone. In this game you may be jailed. And if you will spend a few days in a local cell, you will be bagging to give you a phone to call your mom to sell your home to get out of there.
Mr Enternational
12-21-21, 18:32
And you know the song, "Girls just want to have fun? I swear to God most guys do not get that. My gal just showed me a cool picnic she went to that was fun, but most guys are horrible hosts. I am taking the women to dinners, shows, snorkeling, cliff diving, boating ETC, and the Colombian guys are like, "Let's go to the local bar, dance, get smashed, and fuck. " Today's women often leave men out of boredom, and who do you think is boring them? It is not me.Thing for me is it is very difficult to find a woman in Latin America with any suggestions. They want the man to come up with everything. They never consider that as foreigners what the fuck do we know as far as things to do there. They have no ambition on what to do for fun.
I even ask chicks if they have seen a restaurant advertised on TV or some place that their friends have talked about and they are always like no. Truth be told you can skip the local bar dancing and getting drunk and just go straight to fucking. I arrive with a pocket full of money ready to have a good time, but just being in the room looking at TV is fine for them.
Or they will say that they will come up with something by the time I get there, which experience has taught me is a lie. Because like 100% of the time when I am standing in front of them they still do not have 1 suggestion and we are left staring at each other.
Case in point I am talking to a Dominican lawyer as I write this. I asked her what she would like to do togther. She said drink coffee and talk. I said only this. She said yes.
JonesLover
12-21-21, 19:43
Thing for me is it is very difficult to find a woman in Latin America with any suggestions. They want the man to come up with everything. They never consider that as foreigners what the fuck do we know as far as things to do there. They have no ambition on what to do for fun.To be honest, I have had a lot more fun with African and Filipino girls. At least they are more spontaneous and are satisfied with everything. I was in Cali recently and it was a delusion to track down a white girl who wanted to meet me for no money. I once invited a beautiful white girl to my apartment for dinner and we just had dinner. But I already knew this because she had already told me before coming to meet me. But do you know why I invited her? Because we had a lot of feeling talking in chat. But maybe Colombians don't like me, I don't know that. Yet outside Colombia women would go crazy, just to be with me, because I am also a cheerful and comfortable person. In Cali I was visited by a black girl after her work and she gave me a lot of fun. All the girls asked for money before they meet me. I can assure you that they were regular and not pro girls.
Let me give you an example: on my return from Colombia to my country, I posted a photo of mine with a prestige car on Facebook and some girls wrote to me immediately. Ahahaha I told them I was no longer in Cali. A beautiful girl who I refused when I was in Cali because asked me money, she wrote to me after looking at that photo and she absolutely wanted to meet me. I replied that I was no longer in Cali and that I wouldn't have met her anyway because I don't like to meet for money. She replied: but I don't want your money. I like to meet you for free.
At this point I'm thinking: maybe I am wrong something in the approach with the Colombians?
Captain Solo
12-21-21, 20:26
Also if you go in a room with a girl, bundle all your valuables into your pants' pocket, leave it on the bed in front of you and hold it down with your hands while screwing the girls.
Take it with you into the toilet or anywhere you go, just to make sure the fast thieves won't get their super fast sticky fingers on them.
Of course lock up and chain down all your valuables if you take any girl to your hotel. Do sessions then get them out of the room as soon as you finish. Don't let them linger and find ways to distract you to steal your critical valuables when you are out of the country.
ST hotels know trouble girls and screen them out, but unless you know the putas very well and have their IDs copied and verified, sleeping overnight with them may be very risky, as they have time while you are sleeping to drug, rob, set you up for serious crimes. Local bros said a lot of Bogota girls use fake IDs so the risks are very high. Be careful with girls who look young. ST hotels may let them use the rooms but it's your risks and liabilities.
ManchesterCat
12-21-21, 21:52
Touched down in Bogota recently, and usually I leave my reports till the very end, but thought I'd change it up.
Context.
Short of getting robbed blind, I'm not the economizing type. If I want a girl, and the price is reasonable then fine. Service price. Unless they're clearly taking the piss. Prefer whiter, thinner GND types (I know, I know, not exactly the local specialty). I've tried learning spanish, but genuinely awful, so speaking english is a big plus.
Boring Stuff.
Very impressed at the airport, had everything you could possibly hope for in arrivals, including a store which sold sim cards at an ungodly hour. Prices were reasonable to me (although undoubtedly marked up 100% Went to departures floor and took an uber. 20 kish to the city. I booked a studio esque room in a very nice building, has some drawbacks, is a little cramped, but very modern and nice. May change based on other recommendations, but it's a good landing area.
Good Stuff.
Determined not to let the night go by (despite very late start) I hit up PH. I remember not being impressed last time, so had low expectations going in. It was very late, so less than 20 girls I think, some of which seemed to be hiding around the back (popping out briefly) and a few left shortly after I arrived. About 2/3 that caught my eye, including a lighter skinned spinner. I sat back and had a few drinks and eventually called her over. Quoted 150 for 20 mins, but covered, offered 300 for 40 mins with BBBJ, she accepted. BBBJ was short, but otherwise great performance. I didn't even last my full 40 mins, for me, that's a good problem to have.
Met one of the SA girls I'd lined up (had a list of about 10, but the list is starting to whittle down very quickly, no replies, currently away etc). Going rate seems to be about 500, and YMMV with what that gets. Not knowing Spanish, chemistry is much harder to build. She a bit darker toned skin than I expected, good build, but had the common skin blemishes in South America (stretch mark, and surgery scar). Nice girl, but not likely to repeat.
Catching up with Woody this evening. Any other ISGers in town, hit me up. Keen to meet and hang out with others.
Elvis 2008
12-21-21, 22:33
Maybe you have not read that right or you have not understood that I am old, even if kind and god looking and 24-30 year old girls want money from me, even if they aren't pro, or refuse to meet me. I am sure you are under 65. If you were that age, you wouldn't write these things here.JL, if I am 30 years older than the women and you are 50 years older, I do not think that matters. Either you are fun company or you are not. I met an older guy in a nursing home who was so friendly the women would fight over who got to bathe him.
Elvis 2008
12-21-21, 22:59
Thing for me is it is very difficult to find a woman in Latin America with any suggestions. They want the man to come up with everything. They never consider that as foreigners what the fuck do we know as far as things to do there. They have no ambition on what to do for fun. I use trip advisor look up things to do and pick out the ones I think are fun.
As far as the women not picking things out, they do not want to be on the hook if you have a bad time or their suggestion is too expensive. I get that.
I did have one women not like that. She always seemed to pick out things that were often fun but very very high $. Eventually, I had to get rid of her over her greed.
JL, if I am 30 years older than the women and you are 50 years older, I do not think that matters. Either you are fun company or you are not. I met an older guy in a nursing home who was so friendly the women would fight over who got to bathe him.It does not matter if you are a fun company or not, they all expect to get paid, that's what they are on SA for. Sure, if you make her feel comfortable and entertained, your dates will go much smoother and she will be more motivated to see you again, maybe you will get yourself a better deal. But you still most likely will be paying. Case in point. Hooked up with a 20 yr college student on SA. Never discussed money, ppm, etc. None of that stuff. However I expected she would ask for money at the end of the date, which she did. The session was decent, she came straight to my place because it was raining, we ordered rappi, had some wine and 1 round of sex. At the end when she asked to help her out, I gave her 250 mil, and she said, no, it is 300 mil, baby, LOL. Even though we had not discussed any money prior. I did not want to fight over 50 mil, so handled her 300. We kissed goodbye, and never saw her again. She is just a regular ho, even though sweet and cute. 99% of SA girls in MDE or BOG would ask how much money you offer, it is what it is.
BTW, i'm in my mid 30's, okay looking and consider myself a fun company.
It does not matter if you are a fun company or not, they all expect to get paid, that's what they are on SA for. Sure, if you make her feel comfortable and entertained, your dates will go much smoother and she will be more motivated to see you again, maybe you will get yourself a better deal. But you still most likely will be paying. Case in point. Hooked up with a 20 yr college student on SA. Never discussed money, ppm, etc. None of that stuff. However I expected she would ask for money at the end of the date, which she did. The session was decent, she came straight to my place because it was raining, we ordered rappi, had some wine and 1 round of sex. At the end when she asked to help her out, I gave her 250 mil, and she said, no, it is 300 mil, baby, LOL. Even though we had not discussed any money prior. I did not want to fight over 50 mil, so handled her 300. We kissed goodbye, and never saw her again. She is just a regular ho, even though sweet and cute. 99% of SA girls in MDE or BOG would ask how much money you offer, it is what it is.
BTW, i'm in my mid 30's, okay looking and consider myself a fun company.Reasonable. When you meet a girl online, most likely she is a pro, or have a lot of experience. She is to make some money / to be paid, in other words a prostitute. The rest is what you imagine in your head. You can call her a student, Spinderella or something else. It does not change the reality.
Be careful in parks and places where bikes are passing you.
I almost lost my phone sitting in the plaza directly in front of Hotel Teqendama.
Sitting on a bench just looking at my phone 2 guys on mountain bikes rode past and 1 tried to grab my phone.
Lucky for me he failed-- he was gone 20-30 feet away before I even realized what had just happened.
MistaDynamite
12-23-21, 02:42
So much talk about the streetie sweeties in Santa Fe.
Here are some photos from the South Stroll area a couple blocks south of the North area-.
This stroll when busy has some nice girls Sometimes 100+ for 30-40 mil. Not as many nice ones like the North area-- prices will go up soon.
I have banged a lotta girls down here.Funny you should mention the price increase. I was there back in October. Santa Fe street action was trying to beat me over the head for 80 mil for 30 minutes. Sorry couldn't in good conscience pay that. I was staying in Chapinero and doing a few casas but would catch the bus down to Santa Fe. I wasn't particularly pressed since this was at the tail end of the trip that included Medellin and Cartagena. I was sitting across the street at a bar drinking and checking out the action and saw one chica flash 4 fingers to a guy which I'm assuming meant 40 mil. And one of the locals at the bar told me it was 30 mil. This was my 2nd trip to Bogota and I did check the board before heading to Bogota so I had a good idea what the price range was. I told one of them just because it's your first time seeing me doesn't mean it's my first time here. I'm not expecting to get the local hometown discount but I'm not going to be their crash test dummy for a price increase either. That's part of what got prices fucked up in DR now.
At the end when she asked to help her out, I gave her 250 mil, and she said, no, it is 300 mil, baby, LOL. Even though we had not discussed any money prior. I did not want to fight over 50 mil, so handled her 300. We kissed goodbye, and never saw her again. She is just a regular ho, even though sweet and cute. 99% of SA girls in MDE or BOG would ask how much money you offer, it is what it is. BTW, i'm in my mid 30's, okay looking and consider myself a fun company.And a mug. If you had offered 100, she would have asked for 150. You entered the negotiation very high. Why pay high price for shlt service? Up to you, but some people would tell you to grow some balls to protect the market.
Mr Enternational
12-23-21, 04:55
Be careful in parks and places where bikes are passing you.In Rio there are organized gangs that have done this for the longest. They snatch anything that you may have out. In 2007 there was an Italian guy marrying a Brazilian chick and his family was in town for the wedding. The guy's brother and dad were out strolling and a guy rode up and snatched a gold chain from the dad. The brother gave chase running across the street and right into the path of a bus that killed him. Last March my brother was also a victim of getting his chain snatched at the beach in Rio by the same technique. If they snatch it just consider it a loss.
https://brasil.estadao.com.br/noticias/rio-de-janeiro,turista-italiano-morre-atropelado-ao-perseguir-assaltante-no-rio,82529.amp
And a mug. If you had offered 100, she would have asked for 150. You entered the negotiation very high. Why pay high price for shlt service? Up to you, but some people would tell you to grow some balls to protect the market.Did I say the service was shitty?
In Rio there are organized gangs that have done this for the longest. They snatch anything that you may have out. In 2007 there was an Italian guy marrying a Brazilian chick and his family was in town for the wedding. The guy's brother and dad were out strolling and a guy rode up and snatched a gold chain from the dad. The brother gave chase running across the street and right into the path of a bus that killed him. Last March my brother was also a victim of getting his chain snatched at the beach in Rio by the same technique. If they snatch it just consider it a loss.
https://brasil.estadao.com.br/noticias/rio-de-janeiro,turista-italiano-morre-atropelado-ao-perseguir-assaltante-no-rio,82529.amp.I was definitely shocked-- It is a wake up call. Glad I did not pay the price of a lost phone for that. I have not had anything happen like that in a long time.
It is a bad omen, I fear.
Pussycat123
12-23-21, 07:28
A few comments on Seeking in Bogota:
I used Seeking for about 9 days back in September, and I'm using it now to line up some gals for a trip in January.
As far as I know EVERY girl on Seeking expects to get paid; This is the whole premise of the platform. If they want to give away sex for free they can go to their local club and get it with some ripped 25 yr old not some mid fifties foreigner.
Back in September I was paying 200-300 k COP (200 -300 "mil") for two hours at my airbnb including sex. ($57-$85 USD) Most of the gals were 200 k. One hottie wanted 500 k and the highest was "$200 USD" (750 k). I didn't take either of those.
If anything, prices seem to have softened a bit since September.
I usually messaged them on Seeking then moved it to WhatsApp as soon as possible, because (Ridiculous as it seems), Seeking claims they use bots to detect "Transactional" language and ban the users. I wait until I'm on WhatsApp then when she says, "So, what are you looking for? I usually just come straight out and say something like, "I am looking for a date of two hours, if everything is good we will make love, and I will give you 200 mil plus your Ubers", etc. Nine times out of ten they will say ok, or will say make it 250 k or 300 k etc. The phrase "if everything is good" just softens it a bit so she can imagine that it might not happen or she can tell herself she's not a hooker. (LOL).
Personaly I prefer to get the girl to agree in writing to sex before the date then its harder for her to turn round and say she didn't consent with all the associated risks.
I would avoid monthly retainers unless you live there or like making charitable contributions to hookers.
I suggest lowabling first (e.g. 150-200 mil) and they will counter if they want more. If you start high they won't go lower. The lowest I paid was 150 mil.
One girl did meet me for free the second time but I gave her 150 mil anyway then she was begging for money soon after.
I would also avoid prepaying. The one time I prepaid for a gals bus ticket from a town 3 hours away she immediately started begging for money and I ended up not meeting her. But I was only $40 in the hole.
Even though I barely speak Spanish, I always chat in Spanish using google translate.
A few girls are in towns a few hours from Bogota and several said they would come to stay overnight. I haven't had a toda la noche yet and people say its risky, but I might try it next time as long as I photograph the gals ID. As others have said, if you are that worried stay home.
Seeking seems relatively expensive. Street girls in SF put out for 40 k but remember, that might be for 15 minutes. So the hourly rate of SF girls might actually be higher than the Seeking girls. Its personal preference.
I stayed near SF last time but I was thinking maybe somewhere in central Bogota might be better as a base for hitting online girls because it will be equidistant from all corners of the city. (Traffic sucks and 45 min- 1 HR Ubers are common).
As far as I could tell, most profiles were real. Filtered pics maybe, but real.
Seeking is overflowing with girls, but then again, so is Bogota and Colombia in general.
Elvis 2008
12-23-21, 10:59
As far as I know EVERY girl on Seeking expects to get paid; This is the whole premise of the platform. If they want to give away sex for free they can go to their local club and get it with some ripped 25 yr old not some mid fifties foreigner.
Personaly I prefer to get the girl to agree in writing to sex before the date then its harder for her to turn round and say she didn't consent with all the associated risks.
The session was decent, she came straight to my place because it was raining, we ordered rappi, had some wine and 1 round of sex. At the end when she asked to help her out, I gave her 250 mil, and she said, no, it is 300 mil, baby, LOL. Even though we had not discussed any money prior. I did not want to fight over 50 mil, so handled her 300. All I can do is shake my head. You guys are paying $100 a month and have hos sign consent forms and to wine and dine them. I know I am going to regret asking this but why do that as opposed to save the money and fuck regular hos where the price is set?
LatinaLover#1
12-23-21, 12:46
In Rio there are organized gangs that have done this for the longest. They snatch anything that you may have out. In 2007 there was an Italian guy marrying a Brazilian chick and his family was in town for the wedding. The guy's brother and dad were out strolling and a guy rode up and snatched a gold chain from the dad. The brother gave chase running across the street and right into the path of a bus that killed him. Last March my brother was also a victim of getting his chain snatched at the beach in Rio by the same technique. If they snatch it just consider it a loss.
https://brasil.estadao.com.br/noticias/rio-de-janeiro,turista-italiano-morre-atropelado-ao-perseguir-assaltante-no-rio,82529.ampI was staying on Ave, Atlantica in Copa one year and the taxi pulled up on the wide sidewalk to help us unload the luggage, as I was about to pay him with the money in my hand, a bike wizzed by me in a flash and grabbed at the money and somehow he missed! He was gone in a flash. A lesson learned.
FlashShaker
12-23-21, 20:05
Great topic to talk about seeking in Bogota specifically. I just did / finished a month membership mainly to try it out. My two goals were to look for some of the more beautiful local girls and see if I can really run into the real student or nurse etc looking for a little extra help. Found the near damn opposite, girls were mainly average, lots of full time prepagos broadening their reach and the mere purpose of the site meant that you will be bombarded with girls asking for money. Like other have said, I moved on whatsapp and yes, I confirmed in advance that this is about sex and sex the way I want it. Next, as prev said, you will find a lot of girls live very far from Bogota but if you've invested a bit of time and want to meet them so it can be a waste of time. I remember one who needed a flight to Bogota that's how far she lived.
Given that you are on seeking, they expect that you will have money to spare so they will ask accordingly. Some will ask about agreements, be sure to shoot them down. You don't live there so need and if you did, no need but you would've known that. Don't take them on dates during the first visit. Pictures are heavily filtered so meet at a Juan Valdez and take it from there.
Personally, I would never use seeking in Colombia. I found far better looking women on miller or prepagos pages. And, its transactional so pay and move on, repeat at your leisure. Seeking chic will endlessly ask for money, they always have emergencies LOL.
I think I chatted with one girl who had gold plated pussy on Seeking. She was in Bogota, said she lived in Cali and was here for her passport. She told me she would stay and spend the weekend with me if I wanted to. She asked for a donation of USD 1,000. Hence why I said her thingie must have been gold plated LOL.
Quiksilver
12-23-21, 22:02
A few comments on Seeking in Bogota:
I used Seeking for about 9 days back in September, and I'm using it now to line up some gals for a trip in January.
As far as I know EVERY girl on Seeking expects to get paid; This is the whole premise of the platform. If they want to give away sex for free they can go to their local club and get it with some ripped 25 yr old not some mid fifties foreigner.
Back in September I was paying 200-300 k COP (200 -300 "mil") for two hours at my airbnb including sex. ($57-$85 USD) Most of the gals were 200 k. One hottie wanted 500 k and the highest was "$200 USD" (750 k). I didn't take either of those.
If anything, prices seem to have softened a bit since September.
I usually messaged them on Seeking then moved it to WhatsApp as soon as possible, because (Ridiculous as it seems), Seeking claims they use bots to detect "Transactional" language and ban the users. I wait until I'm on WhatsApp then when she says, "So, what are you looking for? I usually just come straight out and say something like, "I am looking for a date of two hours, if everything is good we will make love, and I will give you 200 mil plus your Ubers", etc. Nine times out of ten they will say ok, or will say make it 250 k or 300 k etc. The phrase "if everything is good" just softens it a bit so she can imagine that it might not happen or she can tell herself she's not a hooker. (LOL).
Personaly I prefer to get the girl to agree in writing to sex before the date then its harder for her to turn round and say she didn't consent with all the associated risks..Go with Chapinero. It's close enough to Santa Fe and I've found that most girls from the North are willing to go there as opposed to La Candelaria for example.
Great topic to talk about seeking in Bogota specifically. I just did / finished a month membership mainly to try it out. My two goals were to look for some of the more beautiful local girls and see if I can really run into the real student or nurse etc looking for a little extra help. Found the near damn opposite, girls were mainly average, lots of full time prepagos broadening their reach and the mere purpose of the site meant that you will be bombarded with girls asking for money. Like other have said, I moved on whatsapp and yes, I confirmed in advance that this is about sex and sex the way I want it. Next, as prev said, you will find a lot of girls live very far from Bogota but if you've invested a bit of time and want to meet them so it can be a waste of time. I remember one who needed a flight to Bogota that's how far she lived.
Given that you are on seeking, they expect that you will have money to spare so they will ask accordingly. Some will ask about agreements, be sure to shoot them down. You don't live there so need and if you did, no need but you would've known that. Don't take them on dates during the first visit. Pictures are heavily filtered so meet at a Juan Valdez and take it from there.
Personally, I would never use seeking in Colombia. I found far better looking women on miller or prepagos pages. And, its transactional so pay and move on, repeat at your leisure. Seeking chic will endlessly ask for money, they always have emergencies LOL.Normal girl (non pro) I think don't come to a stranger she has met online to suck his dick on the first date, she need to take probably 30-60 min ride in the bus. Plus she want to make a impression that she is a nice girl and it is the second time she is with a man. If someone think that he is a fun guy, could speak Spanish, good in sex, or dance and sing like Mackle Jackson, you love yourself too much. Who does care about your skills? The math is simple. If you go to Bogota, first think what reason for that. If to fuck girls, than estimate your expenses: flight, accommodation, ets and divide that on the number of girls you expecting to see, as well their quality. In my case, I spend about 3000 Cad for two weeks and I fuck about 20 girls some I repeat = 100 cad per girl. I can fuck 100 $ - 150 $ girls in Toronto. In addition, I don't loose my income for these two weeks. That is why don't think that it is too cheap. And if you want to pickup girls by impressing them with your skills / looks / etc and jump around them for three dates without paying money, first show me your girls' and say how many you have them in a week.
Go with Chapinero. It's close enough to Santa Fe and I've found that most girls from the North are willing to go there as opposed to La Candelaria for example.Chapinero seems to be where a large number of in-call girls on Mlleroticos are located. Is that correct?
Mr Enternational
12-24-21, 05:00
Next, as prev said, you will find a lot of girls live very far from Bogota but if you've invested a bit of time and want to meet them so it can be a waste of time.When I meet a chick on a website the very second or third thing I ask is what part of whatever city they have in their profile that they live in. This will save you a ton of otherwise wasted time.
DonCarlos1234
12-24-21, 09:34
Beginning in January, SA will raise the price AGAIN. Lots of profiles disappear from view overnight etc. Etc. It is possible to find a good one here and there, if you invest enough time and money .Have you noticed inflation happening worldwide?
Well in the last 5 weeks from the comfort of my home I did invest time and money. Tonight my friend wanted me to hang with him here in a Vegas Gentlemen's club (he knows the owners) and- other places. I said,- Are any of the girls in these clubs as hot as the ones I found on SA? I showed him the pics. He stuttered and says, well yes. So I say, and for what $100 will I get her number? Will she come over for an hour or more? Dah you know the answer. You get a return on your investment! If you read posts by Elvis over time you see that we both turn down amazing girls because there are way too many. I currently have around 50 girls (new ones) to see in the next few weeks. In Medellin and Bogota. But I only have one penis. Seems he wants to do them all (the penis) but I will bring that number down and report in February. Maybe I will just stay longer. That friken covid is also screwing with things. Anyway, the time and $ I would waste going out in ANY city in the USA does not compare to the return on investment in Colombia. BTW my standards are too high for the "street sweeties" in Santa Fe well maybe one night. Suck it up. Enjoy ROI.
LatinaLover#1
12-24-21, 12:18
Have you noticed inflation happening worldwide?
Well in the last 5 weeks from the comfort of my home I did invest time and money. Tonight my friend wanted me to hang with him here in a Vegas Gentlemen's club (he knows the owners) and- other places. I said,- Are any of the girls in these clubs as hot as the ones I found on SA? I showed him the pics. He stuttered and says, well yes. So I say, and for what $100 will I get her number? Will she come over for an hour or more? Dah you know the answer. You get a return on your investment! If you read posts by Elvis over time you see that we both turn down amazing girls because there are way too many. I currently have around 50 girls (new ones) to see in the next few weeks. In Medellin and Bogota. But I only have one penis. Seems he wants to do them all (the penis) but I will bring that number down and report in February. Maybe I will just stay longer. That friken covid is also screwing with things. Anyway, the time and $ I would waste going out in ANY city in the USA does not compare to the return on investment in Colombia. BTW my standards are too high for the "street sweeties" in Santa Fe well maybe one night. Suck it up. Enjoy ROI.Comparing Vegas and SA girls in Colombia is Apples and Oranges. Strip Clubs? Not me, I haven't been to a USA Strip club in ages, for all the reasons you layed out. And SF, been there twice years ago and not my thing. I'm very familiar with SA and used SA quite a bit in the last 8 or so years and have a lot of WA numbers of girls I can call so I don't need SA anymore, but once you filter out the Pic sellers, hard core pros and the fishing scams, it's fun cruising through the thousands of available women in Colombia. You mentioned $100 USD, I hope you don't pay SA girls $100. I only payed $100 once and that was for a dupla. You mentioned Medellin and Bogota, have you tried other cities? Villavicencio has amazing girls and not jaded by the big city. I also flew in a girl in from Barranquilla, a risky proposition because if you don't hit it off it could be a disaster but it worked out and she was the best. I'll be returning to Bogota in 4 weeks and I hope to get a night or 2 away from my fiancé and her family so I have time to reconnect with a few of my old favorites. Happy Hunting!
Have you noticed inflation happening worldwide?
Well in the last 5 weeks from the comfort of my home I did invest time and money. Tonight my friend wanted me to hang with him here in a Vegas Gentlemen's club (he knows the owners) and- other places. I said,- Are any of the girls in these clubs as hot as the ones I found on SA? I showed him the pics. He stuttered and says, well yes. So I say, and for what $100 will I get her number? Will she come over for an hour or more? Dah you know the answer. You get a return on your investment! If you read posts by Elvis over time you see that we both turn down amazing girls because there are way too many. I currently have around 50 girls (new ones) to see in the next few weeks. In Medellin and Bogota. But I only have one penis. Seems he wants to do them all (the penis) but I will bring that number down and report in February. Maybe I will just stay longer. That friken covid is also screwing with things. Anyway, the time and $ I would waste going out in ANY city in the USA does not compare to the return on investment in Colombia. BTW my standards are too high for the "street sweeties" in Santa Fe well maybe one night. Suck it up. Enjoy ROI.You can be lucky and get a nice girl anywhere. There are no magic places / cities. If you go to a small city to find a girl, you are looking for a headache and troubles. There is a lot less choice and local people see you as a gringo who came to fuck their women. If you are lucky you'll find a few girls, if not you will fuck someone who has a pussy just because you are here and a pussy in front of you and there is no other choice. That is why pro publish fake pics on their pages. They know, how phycology works. When a man has erection, the brain does not work. In Bogota, Colombia the choice is better, because more population, people are pure and more offer + Venezuelans.
Quiksilver
12-24-21, 16:14
Chapinero seems to be where a large number of in-call girls on Mlleroticos are located. Is that correct?Definitely see Chapinero mentioned more and more than before.
Definitely see Chapinero mentioned more and more than before.There are a lot of fake pics / girls and a lot of marketing tricks.
I've been staying there the last 5 years when I have gone to Bogota, usually as a stopover to go somewhere else in Colombia, so short visits of 2 or 3 nights mostly. Once I stayed there 2 weeks and another time 1 week.
I always reserve for 2 and am a All Accor member. One of my November visits was a little odd. I have never registered a guest. I have either walked right to the elevators with a lady or we've had food and / or drinks at the hotel restaurant. This time I was wifed up, so I stayed a couple of nights before and after my Colombiana and I went to San Andres together.
I checked in about 5 AM, so I was alone. Room reserved for 2, as usual. I went to my room alone and had a 5 hour sleep before she came over. I met her downstairs and we went our for dinner. Coming back, I walked with her to the elevator and we were stopped by security just as I pressed the call button to go up to my room. She was dressed like a lady, nothing overtly sexy, so her attire was not an issue. It was cold (for her), so she was covered up. We went to the reception and checked her in officially. They took a copy of her cedula and that was that. No drama, no fees, no issues.
What I did find really odd is how did they know? It was different staff at night. Both reception and security. It was my second night at the hotel so I was not known to the new staff. After that, I was never asked to check her in, so they must have known somehow.
My curiosity is how could they have known she was not checked in? It would be pretty embarrassing for them if they stopped us and it turned out she was already checked in. Not a big deal, but it made me wonder how we are being watched at this hotel.
I have never had this happen before and on trips where I was not wifed up, I had 3 or more different women in my room (not all at once). Not 1 was asked to check in, so I think something has changed. Or maybe I was just lucky in the past and now with Covid they are monitoring guest comings and goings much more closely.
Still a happy Ibis customer. Just curious.
DonCarlos1234
12-25-21, 10:24
Comparing Vegas and SA girls in Colombia is Apples and Oranges. Strip Clubs? Not me, I haven't been to a USA Strip club in ages, for all the reasons you layed out. You mentioned $100 USD, I hope you don't pay SA girls $100. I only payed $100 once and that was for a dupla. . Happy Hunting!Any high end stripper / SA girl / entertainer in any major us city is a waste of time. Expensive yes. Beautiful maybe, maybe not by comparison to Colombia. Ymmv pay $100 US, sometimes yes. It's my $. LOL but the value, time and GF experience is far beyond any concern about the $. YMMV.
JonesLover
12-25-21, 15:28
I was in Colombia 15 yeas ago, in Medellin, Valledupar, Santa Marta. Yes I was younger and handsome and I got wonderful time. Girls were amable and never talked about mone. And they never talked about money and I got various interesting experiences.
Two months ago I got a bad experience in Cali. I was there for more than 20 days and I saw and I got a completely different scenario. If I talked to girls outside of Cali online, they were already trying to rip me off before they met me. I couldn't find even a white girl in Cali because everyone was giving me too much money. I only met a couple of black girls, one of them gave me a lot of fun. Colombia is disappointing me a lot. I don't know if there are better places in South America where girls treat their older friends better. I'm afraid I'll have to go back to Africa, where girls never ask for money, but I gladly give them.
Conick2000
12-25-21, 20:01
I was in Colombia 15 yeas ago, in Medellin, Valledupar, Santa Marta. Yes I was younger and handsome and I got wonderful time. Girls were amable and never talked about mone. And they never talked about money and I got various interesting experiences.
Two months ago I got a bad experience in Cali. I was there for more than 20 days and I saw and I got a completely different scenario. If I talked to girls outside of Cali online, they were already trying to rip me off before they met me. I couldn't find even a white girl in Cali because everyone was giving me too much money. I only met a couple of black girls, one of them gave me a lot of fun. Colombia is disappointing me a lot. I don't know if there are better places in South America where girls treat their older friends better. I'm afraid I'll have to go back to Africa, where girls never ask for money, but I gladly give them.What part of Africa were you at? I spent a lot of time I Kenya. I would suggest trying Bucaramanga. It was less Americanized.
LatinaLover#1
12-25-21, 20:55
I always get kick out of the ill informed neophyte know-it-alls with 3 years experience. They are lecturing when they should be listening to members with decades of experience.
Mr Enternational
12-25-21, 21:04
I was in Colombia 15 yeas ago, in Medellin, Valledupar, Santa Marta. Yes I was younger and handsome and I got wonderful time. Girls were amable and never talked about mone. And they never talked about money and I got various interesting experiences.
Two months ago I got a bad experience in Cali. I was there for more than 20 days and I saw and I got a completely different scenario. 15 years ago in the 21st century? Of course things are going to be different. 16 years ago I was finishing up grad school and one of my classmates told me about The Facebook. You only needed a university email address to sign up. Now Facebook is for anybody and everybody to assert their agendas, sell their products, and anything else under the sun.
If you have managed to master Spanish over those last 15 years then you should have no problems. I don't! I am older and fatter, but still spit the same game with even better results. And I do not give money to chicks that are not hookers.
Mr Enternational
12-25-21, 21:20
What I did find really odd is how did they know? It was different staff at night. Both reception and security. It was my second night at the hotel so I was not known to the new staff. After that, I was never asked to check her in, so they must have known somehow.
My curiosity is how could they have known she was not checked in? Although you may feel invisible, they see everything. That is their job. I was just watching an episode of the cartoon Archer the other day. They checked in to a hotel in Japan and he was wondering how they knew so much about him and his uncle that had been there many times before. The receptionist told him that they see everything. So you are not the first to think you were not being seen when you actually were.
Elvis 2008
12-25-21, 22:27
I checked in about 5 AM, so I was alone. Room reserved for 2, as usual. I went to my room alone and had a 5 hour sleep before she came over. I met her downstairs and we went our for dinner. Coming back, I walked with her to the elevator and we were stopped by security just as I pressed the call button to go up to my room. She was dressed like a lady, nothing overtly sexy, so her attire was not an issue. It was cold (for her), so she was covered up. We went to the reception and checked her in officially. They took a copy of her cedula and that was that. No drama, no fees, no issues.
What I did find really odd is how did they know? It was different staff at night. Both reception and security. It was my second night at the hotel so I was not known to the new staff. After that, I was never asked to check her in, so they must have known somehow.
My curiosity is how could they have known she was not checked in? It would be pretty embarrassing for them if they stopped us and it turned out she was already checked in. Not a big deal, but it made me wonder how we are being watched at this hotel..I like that you brought 3 women back no problem at Ibis. I was wondering if they were still good with visitors. It is nice to know they are.
I do not know if you saw on the Medellin forum where Paulie and Mr. E were talking about wearing shorts. Paulie said you are a target if you wear shorts and Mr. E said that was dumb; they can tell you are a foreigner and know when you are a monger when you bring back loads of women to your hotel. I honestly thought Paulie's comment was off because I have people speak English to me before I have said anything. Even if you speak Spanish, there are different accents. Point is that most people know we are mongers.
I have hotels call me after a girl leaves and asks if everything is okay all the time. So I think hotels mark down when someone comes in and out even if they do not call you though. Then you see enough women if you work there and you would recognize their faces. How many hos are there realistically at Santa Fe? 200? When you see them come in and out all the time and stay an hour or so, you know. Also Colombians can pick out not just American and Venezuelans easily but lower class Colombians.
But honestly you can tell just from the way a woman is with a man and how she carries herself. I kissed my ex-fiancé good bye and the cabbie said I had a pretty GF. I thought why say GF and not think ho? Then I realized he could tell by how she looked at me and kissed me.
I had one woman and put her on the reservation but she dressed so ho like the manager charged me for her because I had brought in other women before her. He did not want to have his hotel be a ho hotel in Medellin, and she looked like one.
On the other hand, I was dating someone that without me even naming her, she was able to get the hotel to give her a key. She also was able to get management to escort her up, and they called delighted in telling me my GF was there. She grew up upper middle class and showed it. She was five foot and carried herself like everyone's favorite little sister and charmed the shit out of everyone.
My current gal is five ten and has to stay aloof so as not to attract the attention of men. She gives off an upper class vibe when she talks but I could see how someone might think she is a ho if they did not talk to her, but you better not miss with her. She looks well connected (and is) so if you are wrong with her, your ass in a sling. Last thing any hotel would want is calling someone like her a working girl. No one has ever said anything to her but I have seen some questioning looks. Once she speaks or is seen with me, those questioning looks become smiles.
Hell, one of the ways I knew a girl was SB or GF material was how the hotel reacted to her. Did the staff recoil or were they delighted at her presence? If hotel staff thinks she is a ho, there is a good chance everyone else will too.
15 years ago in the 21st century? Of course things are going to be different. 16 years ago I was finishing up grad school and one of my classmates told me about The Facebook. You only needed a university email address to sign up. Now Facebook is for anybody and everybody to assert their agendas, sell their products, and anything else under the sun.
If you have managed to master Spanish over those last 15 years then you should have no problems. I don't! I am older and fatter, but still spit the same game with even better results. And I do not give money to chicks that are not hookers.Haha, not bad.
Elvis 2008
12-25-21, 23:35
I always get kick out of the ill informed neophyte know-it-alls with 3 years experience. They are lecturing when they should be listening to members with decades of experience.Exactly LL! I am glad Doncarlos is going back out there so someone knows how to use SA right. I am afraid it has been ruined, and I wonder if I ever should have posted about it.
Your profile and pics should leave no doubt in anyone's mind you are a prize. Where you stay, how you dress, how you converse should all show that you have class, intelligence, and money. There should be no doubt in the chicks mind if she performs well, she is going to be compensated. That she has to ask for money is a mark against her. Even then, I would give a range, maybe put in a dig "the best sugar babies I have ever had did not ask for money. They were smart enough to know I would care for them" and say that is not a promise because you value beauty, intelligence, and honesty (and you have been so disappointed in some women).
I will pay you 300 cop for sex locks you in. If you have to talk money, give a range and be non-committal. Maybe even offer a tiny amount for time and travel. Once she comes to your place, you are in control or you should be.
I might as well do the consent form thing and why it is so bad. First off, you are giving up control. You are telling the woman she is in control when it should be the other way around. Second, rape laws are very different in the Latin world than the American one in terms of how they are enforced. The women are much more likely to say they fucked you and you did not pay them enough than say they were raped. Third, sugar relations are based on trust, and you are starting off with mistrust. Sure, I hide or lock up my wallet when I see hos but SBs? I leave my wallet out with them like I would a friend, and that should be your goal when using SA.
When you meet her, you interview her. STFU and listen. What are her needs? What is his personality like? What were her previous relationships like and why did they fail? How much free time does she have to meet with you? Passport? Likes to travel? How does she feel about marriage? Kids? What is her family like? Why is she on the site?
I asked my current gal why she went to bed with me so quickly, and she said, "You understood me more in 10 minutes than most people do in a lifetime." That is from studying personality type, a huge plus in figuring women out.
Most of the time just my questions and observations alone have the women creaming in their pants. They look at the food, the wine, the hotel, the company, and are saying, "Man, I want this. " The reason SB sex is so much better than ho sex is why women suck your dick. With ho sex, it is I will suck his dick but only for $100. With SB sex, it is "I really like this guy and the life he can provide me, I want to suck his dick so well I get to be with him more often. " Money is a minimum motivator for people not just for sex but with most everything.
Maybe you are interested in one who does not get it right away and you go into "I had this one SB and she was great. After two years, she was so good, I had to get her the boob job she always wanted. " I really only had to go into my total spiel twice. It was funny. One woman asked before she left, "Can I have some money? I really kind of need it. " Now that is a good SB line.
Being my SB is a great gig, and I expect women to behave as such. That is why I say to the amateurs: up your game or just see hos.
Bango Cheito
12-26-21, 00:58
Hi,
In your opinion is it better Bogota or Cali to meet regular girls and to take them to bed easily? For a young guy any Colombian city is good for fucking regular and beautiful girls, but not for old men. Jajajaja For this reason I am asking for info from people who know and have been to both cities.
Thank you for your pleasant info.For non-pro, definitely Cali.
JonesLover
12-26-21, 03:11
What part of Africa were you at? I spent a lot of time I Kenya. I would suggest trying Bucaramanga. It was less Americanized.I know Uganda well. Kenya is similar Uganda but more expensive.
You have more experience in Colombia than I do, but it comes naturally to me to think that even Cali is not very Americanized and also has 4 times more inhabitants than Bucaramanga so with many more opportunities. Maybe am I wrong?
For non-pro, definitely Cali.What is the difference? How many girls do you need? There are 10 millions people in Bogota. All kinds of girls. Is it not enough? Or do you think that non-pros are staying in the line and waiting for your arrival? Anyway you need to do the job and look for a girl. When you are searching on social media, you are talking to an avatar not to alive person. The rest is what you have imagined in your head. If she say "I am not pro" How can you check that? Any experienced woman can make a show for you and say to you what you want to hear. She will say you that you are the second man in her life, and your sex is the best in her life and you are the best man she saw in her life including Hollywood movies. And most men buy this bullshit from their wives, GF, sugar BB, prostitutes, etc.
Exactly LL! I am glad Doncarlos is going back out there so someone knows how to use SA right. I am afraid it has been ruined, and I wonder if I ever should have posted about it.
Your profile and pics should leave no doubt in anyone's mind you are a prize. Where you stay, how you dress, how you converse should all show that you have class, intelligence, and money. There should be no doubt in the chicks mind if she performs well, she is going to be compensated. That she has to ask for money is a mark against her. Even then, I would give a range, maybe put in a dig "the best sugar babies I have ever had did not ask for money. They were smart enough to know I would care for them" and say that is not a promise because you value beauty, intelligence, and honesty (and you have been so disappointed in some women).
I will pay you 300 cop for sex locks you in. If you have to talk money, give a range and be non-committal. Maybe even offer a tiny amount for time and travel. Once she comes to your place, you are in control or you should be.
I might as well do the consent form thing and why it is so bad. First off, you are giving up control. You are telling the woman she is in control when it should be the other way around. Second, rape laws are very different in the Latin world than the American one in terms of how they are enforced. The women are much more likely to say they fucked you and you did not pay them enough than say they were raped. Third, sugar relations are based on trust, and you are starting off with mistrust. Sure, I hide or lock up my wallet when I see hos but SBs? I leave my wallet out with them like I would a friend, and that should be your goal when using SA.You speak like a class teacher with high school students.
#1 Any woman online has a goal = to get married, or immigrate to USA, or get some money, or find a sugar daddy, etc. And most likely her goal is not suck your dick in the hope that you'll pay her.
#2 It is your subjective opinion that you control the situation, most likely she is trying you = what she can get of you. You should study website statistics. There are 100 times more men than pussies on dating sites.
#3 what if she say that you raped her or tried, despite of your "most likely" . By default, if she files raping, police has to close you. And you cell mates, don't like gringos who rape their sisters, GF, and just any Colombian women. Now try to guess what they do.
JonesLover
12-26-21, 23:14
What is the difference? How many girls do you need? There are 10 millions people in Bogota. All kinds of girls. Is it not enough? Or do you think that non-pros are staying in the line and waiting for your arrival? Anyway you need to do the job and look for a girl. When you are searching on social media, you are talking to an avatar not to alive person. The rest is what you have imagined in your head. If she say "I am not pro" How can you check that? Any experienced woman can make a show for you and say to you what you want to hear. She will say you that you are the second man in her life, and your sex is the best in her life and you are the best man she saw in her life including Hollywood movies. And most men buy this bullshit from their wives, GF, sugar BB, prostitutes, etc.You're right. In fact we are in Colombia and in Colombia you can have true love only if you pay. I can assure you that in some other countries this is not the case. I am old and have visited almost the whole world. If you go to some parts of Asia you will find 20-year-old girls who really fall in love with you. An example?
When I was in the Philippines (but not in Manila), I talked to a girl online for 4-5 days and she fell in love with me. She absolutely wanted to meet me, but I didn't like her. She told me that she would do very bad things about her person if I didn't meet her, because she couldn't sleep anymore just thinking about me. So I promised her that I would meet her the same day, but only for 30 minutes and not in my apartment. When I met her in a park near my apartment, she was so happy that she was bursting with joy from every pore of her skin. I made her really happy just to have met her in a park. Fortunately, there are corners on earth that give you the feeling that people really love you.
ArmnHammer69
12-26-21, 23:37
First night I arrived to my Airbnb and checked in. Headed straight to Santa Fe and ran into a older favorite a Vennie with tattoos but man can this girl twerk it on you and push it back. Later that night Hooked up for one hour with another Vennie with a soft squishy fake booty and tiny body at Fiebre sex. Had a great one hour session with her. Day two I met up with a girl I usually see and talk to all year on what's app had a great 5 hour session at my place. Later that night I went back out earlier this time around 8 pm. Troya was still good at this time of night had a few drinks and stopped in paisas club. It had been going down bill since years past but ran into another girl from the past with a squishy butt who rode me great jumped at the chance and had another great session. Later that night at Fiebre I couldn't choose and it was getting late so I took the hot Vennie upstairs for another hour. Got some pow and had a great hour of non stop sex. She was loving it and kept going back for more. I could feel her multiple orgasms and woke you to bruises on my arm from her tiny hands squeezing me. Saturday my final night I went back and manage to try another girl at Fiebre it was ok and then ran into another old favorite and had two sessions for 1. 5 hours and finally came to a blowjob.
Tried the mezzanine twice both times I found nothing special unfortunately would love to some other spots to try during the day.
To sum it up Fiebre has best quality and service by far. Paisas was still really slow, troya is good from 7-9:30 pm. Venus and Atonis were disappointing this trip, maybe one cute younger chick in each.
If anyone is staying at ibis museo you should try home burgers right across the street. Best burger joint in Colombia imho.
All an all a great 3 days spent especially pre Christmas knowing each girl made some extra cash for Christmas gifts that week. It's like charity from my dick LOL.
You're right. In fact we are in Colombia and in Colombia you can have true love only if you pay. I can assure you that in some other countries this is not the case. I am old and have visited almost the whole world. If you go to some parts of Asia you will find 20-year-old girls who really fall in love with you. An example?
When I was in the Philippines (but not in Manila), I talked to a girl online for 4-5 days and she fell in love with me. She absolutely wanted to meet me, but I didn't like her. She told me that she would do very bad things about her person if I didn't meet her, because she couldn't sleep anymore just thinking about me. So I promised her that I would meet her the same day, but only for 30 minutes and not in my apartment. When I met her in a park near my apartment, she was so happy that she was bursting with joy from every pore of her skin. I made her really happy just to have met her in a park. Fortunately, there are corners on earth that give you the feeling that people really love you.French said: Russian has invented love because they don't want to pay money. Watch youtube about the Philippines girls or better buy a book on amazon on the subject of Philippine love, there are a lot there.
You're right. In fact we are in Colombia and in Colombia you can have true love only if you pay. I can assure you that in some other countries this is not the case. I am old and have visited almost the whole world. If you go to some parts of Asia you will find 20-year-old girls who really fall in love with you. An example?
When I was in the Philippines (but not in Manila), I talked to a girl online for 4-5 days and she fell in love with me. She absolutely wanted to meet me, but I didn't like her. She told me that she would do very bad things about her person if I didn't meet her, because she couldn't sleep anymore just thinking about me. So I promised her that I would meet her the same day, but only for 30 minutes and not in my apartment. When I met her in a park near my apartment, she was so happy that she was bursting with joy from every pore of her skin. I made her really happy just to have met her in a park. Fortunately, there are corners on earth that give you the feeling that people really love you.My friend, you need to travel some more, and experience more women. Your assessment could not be further from the reality.
Elvis 2008
12-27-21, 08:51
You should study website statistics. There are 100 times more men than pussies on dating sites.https://heavy.com/tech/2014/07/seeking-arrangement-sugar-daddy-dating-website-alix-catherine-tichelman/
The site consists of about 700,000 sugar daddies and sugar mommas, with 2. 3 million "babies. ".
what if she say that you raped her or tried, despite of your "most likely" . By default, if she files raping, police has to close you. And you cell mates, don't like gringos who rape their sisters, GF, and just any Colombian women.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-57553316
Ms Acosta filed a report with the police but many victims are reluctant to report cases of sexual violence because so few perpetrators ever get punished. According to Sisma Mujer, 90% of reports of sexual violence filed in 2020 - including that of Ms Acosta. Have not progressed past the initial inquiry stage.
Any woman online has a goal = to get married, or immigrate to USA, or get some money, or find a sugar daddy, etc. And most likely her goal is not suck your dick in the hope that you'll pay her.Doesn't every action have a goal? And you stayed at the San Francisco hotel in Santa Fe and pounded out Santa Fe hos. There is nothing wrong with that, but you have no idea of the type of women I have met. Unlike the Santa Fe hos, the women I want have jobs or are in school and would never dream of making a living on their back.
And Igor, I saw you are Russian. Is it the custom there to have women give out blow jobs only after they are married? If so, that would explain why on average the men die in Russia 10 years before the women.
JonesLover
12-27-21, 10:48
My friend, you need to travel some more, and experience more women. Your assessment could not be further from the reality.I can't travel more because I have almost traveled all over the world. Experimenting with more women maybe you're right, but I don't care it.
Most of you only fuck pro girls and you have even less experience than me.
https://heavy.com/tech/2014/07/seeking-arrangement-sugar-daddy-dating-website-alix-catherine-tichelman/
The site consists of about 700,000 sugar daddies and sugar mommas, with 2. 3 million "babies. ".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-57553316
Ms Acosta filed a report with the police but many victims are reluctant to report cases of sexual violence because so few perpetrators ever get punished. According to Sisma Mujer, 90% of reports of sexual violence filed in 2020 - including that of Ms Acosta. Have not progressed past the initial inquiry stage.
Doesn't every action have a goal? And you stayed at the San Francisco hotel in Santa Fe and pounded out Santa Fe hos. There is nothing wrong with that, but you have no idea of the type of women I have met. Unlike the Santa Fe hos, the women I want have jobs or are in school and would never dream of making a living on their back.
And Igor, I saw you are Russian. Is it the custom there to have women give out blow jobs only after they are married? If so, that would explain why on average the men die in Russia 10 years before the women.You speak theoretically and real life could be different.
#1 if there are so many sugar babies, why the prices so high. It is economics the offer is much more= prices go down. I fucked a few women from the dating sites, they get dayly messages from more than 50 pussy seekers and to reply it is a full time job.
#2 For the police / locals / court / your local lawyer / etc a gringo rape is different comparing with the domestic rape. It is outstanding case and they will do their best. An average Colombian girl has no idea, most likely, how they handle rape cases. If she file rape, any Colombian will be happy to help her and don't think that if a woman goes to your place she does not have a back up. She is local and you are not.
#3 In any case, your conclusions about any woman are based on the info she give you and nothing more and you can't check it. I can say that I am a Santa Claus and some people (at least children) can believe that.
#4 Men in Russia live less because of alcohol and they kill each other too often.
#5 For all who think that, if you are a US / Canadian / or other rich country citizen. Don't think that the law works the same as in you country.
#6 If someone think that he is too smart, strong, cool, etc that could be a problem. For you.
#7 Many people travel to Colombia to fuck many quality girls in one trip, but some people need romance and they want to spend their time to pick up one woman. If I need just one woman, I can find and offer my two week travel budget to Bogota money to a student in Toronto. $3000+ and have a romance for one month. There are many non pro students who say yes for 3000 $ a month.
I like that you brought 3 women back no problem at Ibis. I was wondering if they were still good with visitors. It is nice to know they are.
I do not know if you saw on the Medellin forum where Paulie and Mr. E were talking about wearing shorts. Paulie said you are a target if you wear shorts and Mr. E said that was dumb; they can tell you are a foreigner and know when you are a monger when you bring back loads of women to your hotel. I honestly thought Paulie's comment was off because I have people speak English to me before I have said anything. Even if you speak Spanish, there are different accents. Point is that most people know we are mongers.
I have hotels call me after a girl leaves and asks if everything is okay all the time. So I think hotels mark down when someone comes in and out even if they do not call you though. Then you see enough women if you work there and you would recognize their faces. How many hos are there realistically at Santa Fe? 200? When you see them come in and out all the time and stay an hour or so, you know. Also Colombians can pick out not just American and Venezuelans easily but lower class Colombians.
The 3 different women were 1 at a time and just before Covid hit. My last trip I was wifed up, so only 1 woman at a time and it was the same woman. Don't want to mislead you. I did see the post on the Medellin forum, but I did not bother with it. I'm a 6'1 250 pound white guy who does not tan. I stick out, so it is pretty obvious I am a tourist and therefore a target. There's no hiding me no matter what I wear, so I dress to be comfortable during the day and dress well for evening fun.
When I go into Sante Fe, I am as discrete as possible and take some precautions, like a money belt that I wear inside my jeans. Wallet and credit cards stay in the safe, along with any excess cash. I bring only what I need and if I get robbed, then can have what's in my pocket. I don't wear a watch or any other jewelry and I dress down. Hardly foolproof, but in 10+ years of visiting foreign countries, I've been pickpocketed once for 40 soles in Peru and was almost carjacked in Peru, but my taxi driver was a wizard and avoided the jackers without hitting any of them. He got a very good tip for his efforts.
Although you may feel invisible, they see everything. That is their job. I was just watching an episode of the cartoon Archer the other day. They checked in to a hotel in Japan and he was wondering how they knew so much about him and his uncle that had been there many times before. The receptionist told him that they see everything. So you are not the first to think you were not being seen when you actually were.True, although I am very discrete and do not draw attention to myself. I just found it odd and it made me wonder how much hotel guests are being surveilled. I can't imagine they have software that maps faces to checked in status, although it would not surprise me in the least if some high end hotels in the world make use of software like this. They must be watching people really closely to know who is checked in and who is not. Makes me wonder about hidden cameras and where they are. One of the reasons I do apartments for longer stays and have a chat with the porter, if there is one.
Doesn't every action have a goal? And you stayed at the San Francisco hotel in Santa Fe and pounded out Santa Fe hos. There is nothing wrong with that, but you have no idea of the type of women I have met. Unlike the Santa Fe hos, the women I want have jobs or are in school and would never dream of making a living on their back. In my experience, women that are working (career) professionals, like lawyers, nurses, teachers, etc are the best SA / Dating Site hookups. They do this to get a taste of the TV / Movie / Instagram influencer lifestyle, because they can't do it on their own dime.
I met a School Teacher on Tinder the last time I went down there, and after the first night, all she really wanted was to go out to nice places to eat, take a bunch of selfies in at the Hotel I was staying, and show off how someone was pampering her.
Elvis 2008
12-28-21, 02:53
In my experience, women that are working (career) professionals, like lawyers, nurses, teachers, etc are the best SA / Dating Site hookups. They do this to get a taste of the TV / Movie / Instagram influencer lifestyle, because they can't do it on their own dime.
I met a School Teacher on Tinder the last time I went down there, and after the first night, all she really wanted was to go out to nice places to eat, take a bunch of selfies in at the Hotel I was staying, and show off how someone was pampering her.Exactly CD, and I will say something else by the time you pay for flights, get Covid tested ETC other countries like Mexico are the same price and quality. What is good in the pro world about Colombia is not the hos. The hos in other Latin countries are much better. Paraguay, Brazil, even Argentina are all better than Colombia. What Colombia has going for it in the pro world is how cheap they are in a few places.
The real beauty of Colombia is the women like that teacher or the professionals you mentioned. When you have a Colombian woman who is into you, they cannot get enough of your dick, and they are so generous with all that they do. To me, that is what is special about Colombia. So I agree. Whatever site you use, SA, Tinder, Cupid, the goal should be to find one of these professional type women.
Elvis 2008
12-28-21, 07:59
If there are so many sugar babies, why the prices so high. It is economics the offer is much more= prices go down.I pay girls prices. I give gifts to SBs. If you had game, you would know what I mean.
For the police / locals / court / your local lawyer / etc a gringo rape is different comparing with the domestic rape. It is outstanding case and they will do their best. An average Colombian girl has no idea, most likely, how they handle rape cases.If you really feel this way, you should have women sign consent forms when you were in Santa Fe, and we both know you did not. So why bring it up?
If someone think that he is too smart, strong, cool, etc that could be a problem For you.That is funny I thought the problem was more my lack of confidence early on than being overconfident, and I was there. I think that statement has more to do with your fear than my confidence.
I can find and offer my two week travel budget to Bogota money to a student in Toronto. $3000+ and have a romance for one month. There are many non pro students who say yes for 3000 $ a month.$3000 a month? Canada? Say what?
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DonCarlos1234
12-28-21, 14:04
You speak theoretically and real life could be different.
#1 if there are so many sugar babies, why the prices so high. It is economics the offer is much more= prices go down. I fucked a few women from the dating sites, they get dayly messages from more than 50 pussy seekers and to reply it is a full time job.
#.It is good that those "street sweeties" aka ho's are there for you and on demand 24/7. (yes I've done them also when bored) When years go by will your memories be anywhere close to mine? Nada. And OMG prices on the streets are far different than a 5 star restaurants where you can get extremely good service. "you are what you eat" I know totally inappropriate. But sometimes this board is a bunch of bickering, waste of brain cells. Go have some fun! I do agree with Elvis that talking about our 5 star experiences here only brings up misconstrued replies. Stay away from champagne, beer is available everywhere. I have said this before Kinda) . There should be a separate ISG section for street tacos and 5 star food. Ok let's hear the replies.
It is good that those "street sweeties" aka ho's are there for you and on demand 24/7. (yes I've done them also when bored) When years go by will your memories be anywhere close to mine? Nada. And OMG prices on the streets are far different than a 5 star restaurants where you can get extremely good service. "you are what you eat" I know totally inappropriate. But sometimes this board is a bunch of bickering, waste of brain cells. Go have some fun! I do agree with Elvis that talking about our 5 star experiences here only brings up misconstrued replies. Stay away from champagne, beer is available everywhere. I have said this before Kinda) . There should be a separate ISG section for street tacos and 5 star food. Ok let's hear the replies.Probably, that is your subjective opinion. I am 60 year old and saw maybe 1500 more likely 2000 girls in my life. Everything depends on your scale. You need to read something quality on psychology and neuroscience. But I am perfectly fine if you think that you have 5 star experience. In five star restaurants people don't look for fine foods. Food is just a food to make you full and provide energy. People look there to raise their self-esteem, when someone (waiter) lick your ass (in the hope to get nice tip) and inside they feel. But they need the money and this is their job. And some people buy it and feel like Donald Tramp because their everyday life sucks. If someone thinks that soccer mums, pure students, house wives, etc have a problem to find a dick in Colombia, probably they are wrong. Average Colombian 10 times more attractive / fit than average fat USA person (if you want accept that or not). In addition, if someone think that there are not rich people in Colombia to fuck quality girls, this could be a mistake. If you are capable, you can estimate any dating site. Don't buy fake numbers you see on the internet. This is nothing more than paid advertisement to bring new visitors / paid customers. If someone think that he is the supper man, I don't mind. I think their opinion is based on the porn they are watching.
In my experience, women that are working (career) professionals, like lawyers, nurses, teachers, etc are the best SA / Dating Site hookups. They do this to get a taste of the TV / Movie / Instagram influencer lifestyle, because they can't do it on their own dime.
I met a School Teacher on Tinder the last time I went down there, and after the first night, all she really wanted was to go out to nice places to eat, take a bunch of selfies in at the Hotel I was staying, and show off how someone was pampering her.I am happy for you. This sounds like, Tom Cruse is visiting Colombia. Do you give them your sighed cards?
Exactly CD, and I will say something else by the time you pay for flights, get Covid tested ETC other countries like Mexico are the same price and quality. What is good in the pro world about Colombia is not the hos. The hos in other Latin countries are much better. Paraguay, Brazil, even Argentina are all better than Colombia. What Colombia has going for it in the pro world is how cheap they are in a few places.
The real beauty of Colombia is the women like that teacher or the professionals you mentioned. When you have a Colombian woman who is into you, they cannot get enough of your dick, and they are so generous with all that they do. To me, that is what is special about Colombia. So I agree. Whatever site you use, SA, Tinder, Cupid, the goal should be to find one of these professional type women.I like them young and fresh, ideally in the 18-23 yo range. Most of the girls of this age are unemployed, or have shitty low paying job, or study, and many live with their parents. Let's be realistic here, 95%+ SA girls in MDE and BOG of that age are hos, they expect to get paid, because nobody wants to fuck an old gringo fart for free. If they just want to get a good dick and not get paid, they have plenty of options among their Colombian peers. Hooking up with the above mentioned professionals is doable only if you are okay with dating older women, not the hottest ones, most likely divorced and with kids. You also need to be ready to invest some time in those women as many won't fuck you on the first date. Average gringo monger coming to Colombia is average or below average looking, usually out of shape, older dude who has limited time and budget. Dating a professional is not even feasible to them, and the language barrier makes it even worse. Unless you speak Spanish, look fit, are relatively young, spend a lot of time in Colombia and have some disposable cash, dating a hot freebies / non-pro who "can't get enough of your dick" is impossible. Again, I'm talking about an average monger. Elvis, if you can pull it off, congrats, good for you, but I'm sure your situation is different and you are not an average gringo coming down to Colombia for a few days. So suggesting not to discuss price / gifts upfront, or not offer to pay (in other words, treating them like they are not hos but regular women) won't get a monger laid, simply because the girls will not be interested in meeting, that's the reality.
I am happy for you. This sounds like, Tom Cruse is visiting Colombia. Do you give them your sighed cards?No. Just spent a good deal of money that week, and it was completely worth it.
Elvis, if you can pull it off, congrats, good for you, but I'm sure your situation is different and you are not an average gringo coming down to Colombia for a few days. So suggesting not to discuss price / gifts upfront, or not offer to pay (in other words, treating them like they are not hos but regular women) won't get a monger laid, simply because the girls will not be interested in meeting, that's the reality.Elvis2008 is a guy who takes 2 or 3 girls at time with him to Cancun, which suggests he is in a different league financially than the typical monger. I think if I were a girl, I would be interested in having someone like him as a boyfriend.
For my first visit to Bogota, I focused on the low end. I was curious as to just how cheaply sex could be had with a decently attractive girl. After some searching, I found a girl in Santa Fe who would do a rato for 27 K COP. However, the sex was rushed and impersonal.
I'm planning to try to spend more money on my next visit to hopefully have better experiences, and, eventually, I would like to be more like Elvis2008 and focus on doing fun things like taking girls to Cancun. I realize that just a one-way flight from Bogota to Cancun costs more than 20 times my 27 K rato in Santa Fe and one also has to consider the cost of the hotel, restaurants, ground transportation, the various tourist attractions in Cancun, and the return flight, but it sounds like it could be a wonderful experience.
Elvis2008 is a guy who takes 2 or 3 girls at time with him to Cancun, which suggests he is in a different league financially than the typical monger. I think if I were a girl, I would be interested in having someone like him as a boyfriend.
For my first visit to Bogota, I focused on the low end. I was curious as to just how cheaply sex could be had with a decently attractive girl. After some searching, I found a girl in Santa Fe who would do a rato for 27 K COP. However, the sex was rushed and impersonal.
I'm planning to try to spend more money on my next visit to hopefully have better experiences, and, eventually, I would like to be more like Elvis2008 and focus on doing fun things like taking girls to Cancun. I realize that just a one-way flight from Bogota to Cancun costs more than 20 times my 27 K rato in Santa Fe and one also has to consider the cost of the hotel, restaurants, ground transportation, the various tourist attractions in Cancun, and the return flight, but it sounds like it could be a wonderful experience.Ah, okay, that makes a lot of sense now. Guys like Elvis and Steve (from the SA thread) seem to be the epitome of a sugar daddy and therefore can pull off the stuff that others can't. Girls think there is no need to discuss money with them because they are sure they will be taken care of. A girl that normally charges 300 mil cop for a date, thinks her payoff will be much higher when she comes across a guy who she thinks is very successful. It just makes no sense to put a price tag on a pussy, knowing that a hundred bucks for a rich gringo is peanuts.
Mr Enternational
12-29-21, 12:38
Ah, okay, that makes a lot of sense now. Guys like Elvis and Steve (from the SA thread) seem to be the epitome of a sugar daddy and therefore can pull off the stuff that others can't. Girls think there is no need to discuss money with them because they are sure they will be taken care of. A girl that normally charges 300 mil cop for a date, thinks her payoff will be much higher when she comes across a guy who she thinks is very successful. It just makes no sense to put a price tag on a pussy, knowing that a hundred bucks for a rich gringo is peanuts.I totally get that. The same way he is thinking he will get a better experience if he does not talk about money, she is thinking she will get more money if she does not talk about money.
When I negotiate I want to know where they are coming from first. Worst thing for me to do is offer $100 when they might have only asked for $50. Worst thing for one of those chicks to do is offer themselves for $50 when a guy they think will "take care of them" may he handing out $100 at the end. Both sides are playing the let's just see where this thing leads game.
Mr Enternational
12-29-21, 12:46
I'm planning to try to spend more money on my next visit to hopefully have better experiences, and, eventually, I would like to be more like Elvis2008 and focus on doing fun things like taking girls to Cancun. I realize that just a one-way flight from Bogota to Cancun costs more than 20 times my 27 K rato in Santa Fe Take them to San Andres instead. You are not getting anything extra for taking them all the way to Cancun, except maybe a pat on the head and her telling you who's a good boy. You will be fucking on the same pussy no matter where it is.
If I am inviting a chick that is not a normal girlfriend to go somewhere, then it is for my benefit. It is somewhere that I do not know and want to check out and want company along the way. It is not somewhere that I have been a million times and the only benefit is hers for the experience that she may otherwise not have had.
LatinaLover#1
12-29-21, 14:26
A vast amount of the girls I see never mention money But if your in SF or Pussyhouse or mezzanine for that mater, price will always be discussed. Most of my girls have a job, are professional. Psychologists, Dentists, actresses, models, nurses, Chefs, students in prestige universities. Bringing a few inexpensive gifts like VS lotion, some lingerie, a toy for her kid. This has been working for me for years. It puts the relation on a different level. Most of the time I get girl.
Friend sex, not pro sex for an hour. I was accused by one newbie on this site of lying because I get BBBJ because he could not make it happen. Some guys like the 40 min pay as you go service in places like SF or Vila Mimosa if that's your thing, go for it but the venues are very different and if you treat a educated, professional girl better and let her save face by not treating her like working girl BEFORE you get in bed the experience can be over the top. This type of mongering is not for everybody, this thread has been hijacked, for the most part by the SF crowd and that's ok some guys want quantity, some guys GF session. Most times I go out to dinner with my girl after playtime. Maybe not your thing, There is an ass for every seat. Happy Trails.
A vast amount of the girls I see never mention money But if your in SF or Pussyhouse or mezzanine for that mater, price will always be discussed. Most of my girls have a job, are professional. Psychologists, Dentists, actresses, models, nurses, Chefs, students in prestige universities. Bringing a few inexpensive gifts like VS lotion, some lingerie, a toy for her kid. This has been working for me for years. It puts the relation on a different level. Most of the time I get girl.
Friend sex, not pro sex for an hour. I was accused by one newbie on this site of lying because I get BBBJ because he could not make it happen. Some guys like the 40 min pay as you go service in places like SF or Vila Mimosa if that's your thing, go for it but the venues are very different and if you treat a educated, professional girl better and let her save face by not treating her like working girl BEFORE you get in bed the experience can be over the top. This type of mongering is not for everybody, this thread has been hijacked, for the most part by the SF crowd and that's ok some guys want quantity, some guys GF session. Most times I go out to dinner with my girl after playtime. Maybe not your thing, There is an ass for every seat. Happy Trails.Please LatinaLover#1 tell us down-to-earth mongers what your tricks are, what do those upper class girls see in you: are you athletic, good looking, young, rich, smart, open minded, well endowed? Do you make them laugh? Do you speak perfect spanish or portuguese? Do you dance salsa well? I thought those girls would rather have a local guy with all those gifts to go out with...
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Exactly CD, and I will say something else by the time you pay for flights, get Covid tested ETC other countries like Mexico are the same price and quality. What is good in the pro world about Colombia is not the hos. The hos in other Latin countries are much better. Paraguay, Brazil, even Argentina are all better than Colombia. What Colombia has going for it in the pro world is how cheap they are in a few places.
The real beauty of Colombia is the women like that teacher or the professionals you mentioned. When you have a Colombian woman who is into you, they cannot get enough of your dick, and they are so generous with all that they do. To me, that is what is special about Colombia. So I agree. Whatever site you use, SA, Tinder, Cupid, the goal should be to find one of these professional type women.
It is good that those "street sweeties" aka ho's are there for you and on demand 24/7. (yes I've done them also when bored) When years go by will your memories be anywhere close to mine? Nada. And OMG prices on the streets are far different than a 5 star restaurants where you can get extremely good service. "you are what you eat" I know totally inappropriate. But sometimes this board is a bunch of bickering, waste of brain cells. Go have some fun! I do agree with Elvis that talking about our 5 star experiences here only brings up misconstrued replies. Stay away from champagne, beer is available everywhere. I have said this before Kinda) . There should be a separate ISG section for street tacos and 5 star food. Ok let's hear the replies.What is the difference to buy online pussy, Usaquen or Santa Fe? The price and maybe more advanced show for you because she has more experience (sucked more dicks in her career).
#1 People who eat fine food in five star restaurants and drink champagne on regular basis don't mention that as something special to enjoy.
#2 How many interviews do you conduct before to get a web Cinderella? Are you sure that she is the one? Ask her for a non reward date, no money just because of you. Pay her $100 to see her online communication and her papi's contacts / texting on her phone. Just don't be too jealous.
#3 The working workflow is: if you like the girl, do short term. You like her repeat and pay her good $$ she will be 5 star+.
#4 When I see a girl, I leave in the moment, Just a fuck. If she is good, repeat. I don't create emotional movies in my head. I don't need memories because I can't and don't need to remember all my meals.
Please LatinaLover#1 tell us down-to-earth mongers what your tricks are, what do those upper class girls see in you: are you athletic, good looking, young, rich, smart, open minded, well endowed? Do you make them laugh? Do you speak perfect spanish or portuguese? Do you dance salsa well? I thought those girls would rather have a local guy with all those gifts to go out with...Their memoirs are based on porn movies they watch.
Take them to San Andres instead. You are not getting anything extra for taking them all the way to Cancun, except maybe a pat on the head and her telling you who's a good boy. You will be fucking on the same pussy no matter where it is.
If I am inviting a chick that is not a normal girlfriend to go somewhere, then it is for my benefit. It is somewhere that I do not know and want to check out and want company along the way. It is not somewhere that I have been a million times and the only benefit is hers for the experience that she may otherwise not have had.I haven't been to Cancun, so I would like to see it myself, preferably with a companion, but I'll keep your suggestion of San Andres in mind.
Although you may feel invisible, they see everything. That is their job. I was just watching an episode of the cartoon Archer the other day. They checked in to a hotel in Japan and he was wondering how they knew so much about him and his uncle that had been there many times before. The receptionist told him that they see everything. So you are not the first to think you were not being seen when you actually were.It is a pattern. They see it every day /365 days a year. And it's their profession. Or they know your amor, because they saw her with other men.
Elvis 2008
12-29-21, 20:28
Elvis2008 is a guy who takes 2 or 3 girls at time with him to Cancun.That is better, but you are still not there. Do you need to be a millionaire to come across as one? You stay in a $70 hotel versus a $30 one, wear a suit, order a glass of wine smell it, swirl it, and inspect it before you drink it and act like you do that all the time. Miami Boy is stuck on the $100 thing. Yes, that is what the hos are interested in. I am not interested in them as a sugar baby.
What do daddies really do? Yes, they pay for their daughters but what else? You do not want your daughter to be a WG. You want to guide her to make her own money and be a millionaire right? So why offer up $100 versus the million dollar dream? The dream is cheaper than the $100, and all you have to do is listen to their dream and come up with better options that they as a young person may not have thought of. A WG does not have a plan or dreams. She is just looking for her next trick.
I think if I were a girl, I would be interested in having someone like him as a boyfriend.That is good, but why am I interested in having you as a GF or sugar baby? You are 25, cute, young guys are after you, and you really would like a daddy to spoil you? Get the fuck out of here! You think you are special, but you are a dime a dozen ho. You think you are letting me fuck you? I have better looking and better in bed than you a phone call away. That is reality, sweetie, do not let the door hit your ass on the way out. Oh wait, I am sorry. You are good for something. Here is a $100 now suck my dick and then leave!
On occasion, I will have to explain the SB process to women, but the smart ones, the ones I want, know it is an audition, and they are looking to impress me.
But you should not expect that. I am not sure about Miamiboy's 95% of them are WGs, but if that is the case, then I am interested in the 5% that are not, and I want the top portion of that 5%. Out of the 10,000 women on the site from Bogota, probably 100 would be SB material for me.
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