Bogota Reports

[Elvis 2008]

A vast amount of the girls I see never mention money But if your in SF or Pussyhouse or mezzanine for that mater, price will always be discussed. Most of my girls have a job, are professional. Psychologists, Dentists, actresses, models, nurses, Chefs, students in prestige universities. Bringing a few inexpensive gifts like VS lotion, some lingerie, a toy for her kid. This has been working for me for years. It puts the relation on a different level. Most of the time I get girl.

Some guys like the 40 min pay as you go service in places like SF or Vila Mimosa if that's your thing, go for it but the venues are very different and if you treat a educated, professional girl better and let her save face by not treating her like working girl BEFORE you get in bed the experience can be over the top. This type of mongering is not for everybody.This is a great post written by someone with real game. Miamiboy, you mentioned average guys in your post. Average guys should not be using Seeking or be sugar daddies! They should be seeing WGs.

Look at LL. He buys little Maria a $2 ball and goes to the park and plays with her. When he is not around, Maria is asking him about him. Next time he sees mommy, Maria runs at him screaming, "LL, I missed you so much. " Now mommy is thinking of LL as a father figure. She then asks, "How about I cook you dinner and after that I suck your dick LL?" That is how you fucking do it. That is how you play the game.

And mommy is sure as hell going to suck the dick of a potential step father a lot better than some guy giving her a $100 and a consent form.

[Yossarian]

A vast amount of the girls I see never mention money But if your in SF or Pussyhouse or mezzanine for that mater, price will always be discussed. Most of my girls have a job, are professional. Psychologists, Dentists, actresses, models, nurses, Chefs, students in prestige universities. Bringing a few inexpensive gifts like VS lotion, some lingerie, a toy for her kid. This has been working for me for years. It puts the relation on a different level. Most of the time I get girl.

Friend sex, not pro sex for an hour. I was accused by one newbie on this site of lying because I get BBBJ because he could not make it happen. Some guys like the 40 min pay as you go service in places like SF or Vila Mimosa if that's your thing, go for it but the venues are very different and if you treat a educated, professional girl better and let her save face by not treating her like working girl BEFORE you get in bed the experience can be over the top. This type of mongering is not for everybody, this thread has been hijacked, for the most part by the SF crowd and that's ok some guys want quantity, some guys GF session. Most times I go out to dinner with my girl after playtime. Maybe not your thing, There is an ass for every seat. Happy Trails.This is also my modus operandi and has been working for me for years. I do what works for and pleases me.

[Elvis 2008]

I haven't been to Cancun, so I would like to see it myself, preferably with a companion, but I'll keep your suggestion of San Andres in mind.Trim, it is not easy getting Colombian girls into Mexico. The first time the woman travels I suggest you go with her from Colombia unless she has been to Mexico before. Cancun is way more fun than San Andreas but it is no fun if the women gets detained, and I have had that happen twice.

American is now flying to San Andreas from Miami and you do not have to worry about customs with her. Unless the woman has been to Mexico or you can go with her from Colombia, I think that is a safer move. When I did the trip with three gals, I flew with the Colombian one from Bogota myself.

[LatinaLover#1]

Please LatinaLover#1 tell us down-to-earth mongers what your tricks are, what do those upper class girls see in you: are you athletic, good looking, young, rich, smart, open minded, well endowed? Do you make them laugh? Do you speak perfect spanish or portuguese? Do you dance salsa well? I thought those girls would rather have a local guy with all those gifts to go out with...All of those things help of course. I'm Not young. Anymore jaja, Self employed so I could travel at will. If I'm somewhere with music I can dance Meringue, Cumbia and Salsa, tried Salsa in Cali but forget it, the Salsa was too fast for me in Cali. Passable Espanole Some Portuguese, it gets better the longer my trip to Brazil gets. I once worked with a guy a great salesman. He was short, fat, pocked marked face but I would be amazed at the hot women he could move out. He would do it over and over. When he finally got married it was to a very hot, younger woman. I asked him how he did it and he said.

" just give me 10 minutes to talk away my face".

You either got game or you don't. Looks get you so far. I've been with beautiful women that after 5 minutes I couldn't get away fast enough. The same for a woman, they have to WANT to be around you, it's no bag of tricks, it's not all about the money, it may be the initial attraction women have to notice you but you have to be able to converse about what ever comes up. Canned raps get old fast. The problem for some guys when traveling is if your an gringo asshole in the states, your still an asshole in Latin America the only difference is your an asshole gringo with money. Open you mouth when you see a woman you like, I once dated a girl who worked in El Dorado, she was asking me the usual questions, did you pack your bag, was your bag with you the entire time bla bla bla. I started flirting and playing around with her, got her number and met up with her the next month when I returned to Bogota. Obtainable women are everywhere in Bogota, waitress, working in th hotel, waiting for a bus, ask for help in Carulla. I once dated a hot woman, 30 ish selling bikinis on the beach in Copa. So there are a million stories in the naked city you just need to get out there and make it happen.

[Paulie97]

All of those things help of course. I'm Not young. Anymore jaja, Self employed so I could travel at will. If I'm somewhere with music I can dance Meringue, Cumbia and Salsa, tried Salsa in Cali but forget it, the Salsa was too fast for me in Cali. Passable Espanole Some Portuguese, it gets better the longer my trip to Brazil gets. I once worked with a guy a great salesman. He was short, fat, pocked marked face but I would be amazed at the hot women he could move out. He would do it over and over. When he finally got married it was to a very hot, younger woman. I asked him how he did it and he said." just give me 10 minutes to talk away my face".You either got game or you don't. Looks get you so far..The guys I've seen over the years that scored a lot of women were much better listeners than talkers. Listening was the key, and yes looks seemed to be less important.

[Igor54]

All of those things help of course. I'm Not young. Anymore jaja, Self employed so I could travel at will. If I'm somewhere with music I can dance Meringue, Cumbia and Salsa, tried Salsa in Cali but forget it, the Salsa was too fast for me in Cali. Passable Espanole Some Portuguese, it gets better the longer my trip to Brazil gets. I once worked with a guy a great salesman. He was short, fat, pocked marked face but I would be amazed at the hot women he could move out. He would do it over and over. When he finally got married it was to a very hot, younger woman. I asked him how he did it and he said.

" just give me 10 minutes to talk away my face".

You either got game or you don't. Looks get you so far. I've been with beautiful women that after 5 minutes I couldn't get away fast enough. The same for a woman, they have to WANT to be around you, it's no bag of tricks, it's not all about the money, it may be the initial attraction women have to notice you but you have to be able to converse about what ever comes up. Canned raps get old fast. The problem for some guys when traveling is if your an gringo asshole in the states, your still an asshole in Latin America the only difference is your an asshole gringo with money. Open you mouth when you see a woman you like, I once dated a girl who worked in El Dorado, she was asking me the usual questions, did you pack your bag, was your bag with you the entire time bla bla bla. I started flirting and playing around with her, got her number and met up with her the next month when I returned to Bogota. Obtainable women are everywhere in Bogota, waitress, working in th hotel, waiting for a bus, ask for help in Carulla. I once dated a hot woman, 30 ish selling bikinis on the beach in Copa. So there are a million stories in the naked city you just need to get out there and make it happen.How long does it take for you to get a girl? Your timescale. In my experience, a normal woman does not spread her legs on the first date just because she want to make an impression that she is not a working girl. If someone travel somewhere to have a sex, they don't have time to play love games, the only option is to buy sex. If someone good to pick up girls they don't need to travel anywhere, there are many quality girls in your city, if they are getting wet when they see you, why to bother? Do you have anything to say?

[Elvis 2008]

Please LatinaLover#1 tell us down-to-earth mongers what your tricks are, what do those upper class girls see in you: are you athletic, good looking, young, rich, smart, open minded, well endowed? Do you make them laugh? Do you speak perfect spanish or portuguese? Do you dance salsa well? I thought those girls would rather have a local guy with all those gifts to go out with...Tavares, you are asking the wrong question. What do you really want? Get rid of the Bud Light image of two babes on your arm and a can of beer. Or let's go easier. What are deal breakers for you? On money, I want a woman who appreciates my generosity but can step in and take over or make it on her own if I cannot provide for her for a short time. Some guys are insecure and want women to be completely dependent on them because they like that level of control. Which type are you?

With sex, I want a woman who does not tell me no and who sucks my cock because she loves to. A lot of women have a caring gene. They literally got high when caring for you. They gets just as much pleasure sucking your dick as you do getting it. I want that. I usually like to control the action in bed but again I do not mind if the woman takes over on occasion. Some guys want complete control. Some want none.

My #1 criteria for a woman is that she makes me feel good sexually and emotionally. I know this cannot be a 100% thing but if I have woman causing more stress, shaming me, ETC, they need to go.

The reason I like seeking / SA is that the women there are open to going out with a foreign guy and an older guy where money is probably more important to them than looks and I want a target rich environment. My goal is not to have a bunch of women but the best woman / women I can get.

Did you ever see the movie Tootsie? Dustin Hoffman is playing a woman who befriends a hot blonde bombshell. The hottie tells Dustin as woman "I just wish a guy would be honest with me and just say he finds me terribly interesting. " A few scenes later, he comes back dressed like a male, tells the woman, "I found you very interesting", and she throws a drink in his face.

I think that is exactly what a woman would do if that happened in real life. What does that tell you about what women really want?

[Jazzy Daddy]

All of those things help of course. I'm Not young. Anymore jaja, Self employed so I could travel at will. If I'm somewhere with music I can dance Meringue, Cumbia and Salsa, tried Salsa in Cali but forget it, the Salsa was too fast for me in Cali. Passable Espanole Some Portuguese, it gets better the longer my trip to Brazil gets. I once worked with a guy a great salesman. He was short, fat, pocked marked face but I would be amazed at the hot women he could move out. He would do it over and over. When he finally got married it was to a very hot, younger woman. I asked him how he did it and he said.

" just give me 10 minutes to talk away my face".

You either got game or you don't. Looks get you so far. I've been with beautiful women that after 5 minutes I couldn't get away fast enough. The same for a woman, they have to WANT to be around you, it's no bag of tricks, it's not all about the money, it may be the initial attraction women have to notice you but you have to be able to converse about what ever comes up. Canned raps get old fast. The problem for some guys when traveling is if your an gringo asshole in the states, your still an asshole in Latin America the only difference is your an asshole gringo with money. Open you mouth when you see a woman you like, I once dated a girl who worked in El Dorado, she was asking me the usual questions, did you pack your bag, was your bag with you the entire time bla bla bla. I started flirting and playing around with her, got her number and met up with her the next month when I returned to Bogota. Obtainable women are everywhere in Bogota, waitress, working in th hotel, waiting for a bus, ask for help in Carulla. I once dated a hot woman, 30 ish selling bikinis on the beach in Copa. So there are a million stories in the naked city you just need to get out there and make it happen.Can you provide some info? Thanks!

[Mr Enternational]

The hottie tells Dustin as woman "I just wish a guy would be honest with me and just say he finds me terribly interesting. " A few scenes later, he comes back dressed like a male, tells the woman, "I found you very interesting", and she throws a drink in his face.

I think that is exactly what a woman would do if that happened in real life. What does that tell you about what women really want?There is no template. You have to play it by ear. You can get one chick by telling her how beautiful she looks and you can get another chick by telling her she is not shit and you are not impressed by her. You can get some chicks by being honest and you can lose other chicks by being honest. You have to feel your way along.

You can also meet every item on each other's list, but if there is no chemistry then it will just be a waste of time. You have to realize you are not going to get most of the women you try for. A good start on foreign chicks is to speak the same language and be familiar with the chick's surroundings. (Or at least be able to act like you are familiar with it to some degree of credibility.).

Last time I was in Brazil I stayed at a chick's house. When I walked in the place was a mess. I gave her the 3rd degree for having that shit so dirty. We fucked and I fell asleep. When I woke up that house was sparkling clean. When I talked to her the other day she said she was cleaning up and that she has not let the house get messy since I got on her case. She said that she was really ashamed. I told her that she needed to be ashamed; you can not live like that. She said that is the truth.

Now take my own kid. I told her that she needed to keep her place clean and she has not spoken to me in 3 years since that day. Some people will love you for one thing and others will hate you for that exact same thing. There is no template. All you can do is be yourself.

[LatinaLover#1]

How long does it take for you to get a girl? Your timescale. In my experience, a normal woman does not spread her legs on the first date just because she want to make an impression that she is not a working girl. If someone travel somewhere to have a sex, they don't have time to play love games, the only option is to buy sex. If someone good to pick up girls they don't need to travel anywhere, there are many quality girls in your city, if they are getting wet when they see you, why to bother? Do you have anything to say?Most, the first date if you use the right approach, Sometimes the second if I really like the woman, I'll wait. It's always about the money. I usually let it known during the initial conversation that I know life in Bogota is very difficult for a single woman / mother and they can use some help now and then. I also let it be known during conversation that I can't have anymore kids because I have a vasectomy, that usually relaxes them when it comes time for bare back if I want. A vast majority of woman are attracted to the Alpha male with the where-with-all to take care of them. An analogy: There was a beautiful white woman, blonde in my upscale neighborhood, from a good family. We had a trash company that would pick up our trash twice a week. One of the workers was a well built black dude, good guy always happy. BUT she met and married Charles Barkley of the 76 ers, A big ugly fuck jaja. The trash guy could never turn a hair on her head. Now you tell me why did she marry him and showed no interest at all in the other guy. It's about the money and can you give me a good life / a few days of being a Princesa.

I met a beautiful girl in CR years ago in the late 90's She was gorgeous, a dead ringer for Penelope Cruz. I met her in the Del Rey of all places. She stayed with me for a few days, we went to the beach Tango Mar, we had a blast. One night after dinner while we were finishing our bottle of wine, I asked her, why a beautiful woman, who spoke English and seemed to have it all, Why is she a prostitute? She looked me straight in the eye and said, "I'm not a prostitute, I go with the man for company. " I learned a lesson that day. It's always about the money but they are all not prostitutes.

[LatinaLover#1]

The guys I've seen over the years that scored a lot of women were much better listeners than talkers. Listening was the key, and yes looks seemed to be less important.The initial conversation in sales is called qualifying. In this hobby it should be used more to get to know the woman. Does she have kids, what are their names. Bla bla bla It amazes me how they begin to open up, and if you show genuine interest and empathy for their plight in life. You get on a whole different level and you will never have better sex. Of course this type of mongering is not for everyone. I had a wing man who could care less, didn't want to know names, no chit chat. He wanted to fuck as many as he could and as he would say, "I pay them to leave!" I was in that state of mind early in my mongering days, Finding a garota on hooker beach in the afternoon, then going to a terma for round 2 catch a nap and finally scoping out TA and Help for the night cap. LOL was a lot of fun but my focus nowadays is for one quality session with a special woman. You got to do what you got to do. What ever floats your boat.

[NeilGeorge]

I met a beautiful girl in CR years ago in the late 90's She was gorgeous, a dead ringer for Penelope Cruz. I met her in the Del Rey of all places. She stayed with me for a few days, we went to the beach Tango Mar, we had a blast. One night after dinner while we were finishing our bottle of wine, I asked her, why a beautiful woman, who spoke English and seemed to have it all, Why is she a prostitute? She looked me straight in the eye and said, "I'm not a prostitute, I go with the man for company. " I learned a lesson that day. It's always about the money but they are all not prostitutes.All women are prostitutes. Are you going to believe and trust a hooker? I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you, my friend. Its always about the money, just like its always about the sex for men.

[Turgid]

The guys I've seen over the years that scored a lot of women were much better listeners than talkers. Listening was the key, and yes looks seemed to be less important.This definitely does not apply to non-pro American women. You've got to keep talking. Tell them about your fictitious investments abroad. Your fictitious porche that's in the shop. Your fictitious enormous bank accounts. Keep talking continuously. You stop talking you just might not get that pussy.

[Mr Enternational]

It's always about the money. I usually let it known during the initial conversation that I know life in Bogota is very difficult for a single woman / mother and they can use some help now and then.Of course it is all about the money if you are making that way. You sit there and talk down on someone telling them how poor they are and that you will give them money. That sounds like some uppity superiority stuff to me. Being an alpha male is not telling someone you have arrived to pay all of their bills and fix all of their problems. Being an alpha male is teaching them ways not to get into problems and showing them ways of solving problems themselves.

I had a friend in Brazil that went to an interview to get a USA visa. She told the officer how she was going to be staying with this guy and he would take care of everything. She was then asked what if something happens to that person? Visa DENIED! So if something happens to the alpha male that you describe they are right back to square one.

I approach people in a normal conversation. I would never tell someone I am here to pay their bills and fix their problems. Maybe that is why I do not get chicks where it is all about the money. If I am talking about money to a chick then you can believe 100% that she is a hooker.


I also let it be known during conversation that I can't have anymore kids because I have a vasectomy, that usually relaxes them when it comes time for bare back if I want.Total opposite from me. I tell them I am going to give them a baby knowing full well that I can't have kids.

[Igor54]

Most, the first date if you use the right approach, Sometimes the second if I really like the woman, I'll wait. It's always about the money. I usually let it known during the initial conversation that I know life in Bogota is very difficult for a single woman / mother and they can use some help now and then. I also let it be known during conversation that I can't have anymore kids because I have a vasectomy, that usually relaxes them when it comes time for bare back if I want. A vast majority of woman are attracted to the Alpha male with the where-with-all to take care of them. An analogy: There was a beautiful white woman, blonde in my upscale neighborhood, from a good family. We had a trash company that would pick up our trash twice a week. One of the workers was a well built black dude, good guy always happy. BUT she met and married Charles Barkley of the 76 ers, A big ugly fuck jaja. The trash guy could never turn a hair on her head. Now you tell me why did she marry him and showed no interest at all in the other guy. It's about the money and can you give me a good life / a few days of being a Princesa.

I met a beautiful girl in CR years ago in the late 90's She was gorgeous, a dead ringer for Penelope Cruz. I met her in the Del Rey of all places. She stayed with me for a few days, we went to the beach Tango Mar, we had a blast. One night after dinner while we were finishing our bottle of wine, I asked her, why a beautiful woman, who spoke English and seemed to have it all, Why is she a prostitute? She looked me straight in the eye and said, "I'm not a prostitute, I go with the man for company. " I learned a lesson that day. It's always about the money but they are all not prostitutes.Your story sounds good, but your logic is a bit weak. I think you should have magic skills to recognize that superior woman in your online chatting. She has to come to your date to stranger. Usually women have filtered or outdated pics and polished profile. You have no idea if she will go for sex. You have no idea what kind of girl she is. And many, many, many if. In addition, you are in a foreign country, which brings many other if. Your language, behavior, attitude, etc. If you like the woman, and what about if the woman like you or not considering that it is the first meeting. That is why your lessons about qualifying are worth not more than a book has written by online Gury for teenagers. Those who dated 25+ women know what I am talking about. Unfortunately it does not work like in porn movies, when a plumber come to fix a sink and a bored housewife 10/10 is jumping in front of him and scrimping fuck me please, fuck me please you are so hot and I can't wait when you push your dick in my mouth.

[LatinaLover#1]

Of course it is all about the money if you are making that way. You sit there and talk down on someone telling them how poor they are and that you will give them money. That sounds like some uppity superiority stuff to me. Being an alpha male is not telling someone you have arrived to pay all of their bills and fix all of their problems. Being an alpha male is teaching them ways not to get into problems and showing them ways of solving problems themselves.

I had a friend in Brazil that went to an interview to get a USA visa. She told the officer how she was going to be staying with this guy and he would take care of everything. She was then asked what if something happens to that person? Visa DENIED! So if something happens to the alpha male that you describe they are right back to square one.

I approach people in a normal conversation. I would never tell someone I am here to pay their bills and fix their problems. Maybe that is why I do not get chicks where it is all about the money. If I am talking about money to a chick then you can believe 100% that she is a hooker.

Total opposite from me. I tell them I am going to give them a baby knowing full well that I can't have kids.How did you get from my statement " a little help now and then" to your asinine statement "you have arrived to pay all of their bills and fix all of their problems. " Also read it again, I never said a word about money, I said HELP now and then! You need to work on your reading comprehension. Next time try staying on topic and don't put words in my mouth.

[LatinaLover#1]

All women are prostitutes. Are you going to believe and trust a hooker? I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you, my friend. Its always about the money, just like its always about the sex for men.I was just drawing a comparison of how some of these women want to view themselves.

[Elvis 2008]

There is no template. You have to play it by ear. You can get one chick by telling her how beautiful she looks and you can get another chick by telling her she is not shit and you are not impressed by her. You can get some chicks by being honest and you can lose other chicks by being honest. You have to feel your way along.I agree. What I was trying to say is that women do not really know what they want. She says she wanted something, got it, and then when she got it and did not like it, she not only rejected it but hated herself for wanting it and slapped the guy in anger.

Then she said, "I am very selective. I only go out with men who treat me the worst." Is that true for some woman? Yep. Why was she doing that?

She was a single mom with an alcoholic dad, dead mother who could give her no support, and she felt like her beauty, fame, and wealth were not earned, so she punished herself with the guys she dated. Most everybody around her is jealous of her and trying to tear her down.

Then she breaks up with the guy who treats her badly and cites Dustin Hoffman's female character as a reason why. Female DH inspired her. She needed affirmation she was an ok person, support, and most importantly, a real friend and in the end, she realizes that is what she needed and got from DH male or female.

The point is if you ask women want they want you are going to hear the same lines: looks, money, maybe fame.

And what male DH did at first and why most guys fail, they give the women what they think they want (even what the woman told him what she wanted) and not what they really need. In the end, he got it right and said, "We were already good friends."

Guys need to focus on the needs of women and a lot of the time, in fact maybe most, they are unaware or not willing to tell you what they are.

[Member #4729]

I like them young and fresh, ideally in the 18-23 yo range. Most of the girls of this age are unemployed, or have shitty low paying job, or study, and many live with their parents. Let's be realistic here, 95%+ SA girls in MDE and BOG of that age are hos, they expect to get paid, because nobody wants to fuck an old gringo fart for free. If they just want to get a good dick and not get paid, they have plenty of options among their Colombian peers. Hooking up with the above mentioned professionals is doable only if you are okay with dating older women, not the hottest ones, most likely divorced and with kids. You also need to be ready to invest some time in those women as many won't fuck you on the first date. Average gringo monger coming to Colombia is average or below average looking, usually out of shape, older dude who has limited time and budget. Dating a professional is not even feasible to them, and the language barrier makes it even worse. Unless you speak Spanish, look fit, are relatively young, spend a lot of time in Colombia and have some disposable cash, dating a hot freebies / non-pro who "can't get enough of your dick" is impossible. Again, I'm talking about an average monger. Elvis, if you can pull it off, congrats, good for you, but I'm sure your situation is different and you are not an average gringo coming down to Colombia for a few days. So suggesting not to discuss price / gifts upfront, or not offer to pay (in other words, treating them like they are not hos but regular women) won't get a monger laid, simply because the girls will not be interested in meeting, that's the reality.Miami Boy1 is 100% correct here. Frankly the last few pages of posts on this thread are just bizarre- is this ISG or the beta male dating club? I'm not sure why so many of these ultra suave players who have legions of hot and ready Colombian civilian women are belittling their incredibly virile and ultra-successful selves by spending time on a pay for play forum, but mysteries abound as we enter the New Year. And here I would remind you this is a Pay for Play forum where men with no illusions or delusion, who want real, actionable intel come to share and swap information so that process is easier, more efficient and fully realized. If you want to talk about how you get ladies hot and bothered by giving them gifts of lotion and other delusion fairy tales, I'm sure there is a forum out there somewhere for that. The International Give Ladies Lotion Guide. (IGLLG).

Thank again Miami Boy1 for the real talk here- Gringo Italiano posts are also extremely solid. I turn to these guys for information, not flatulent ramblings, so thanks again.

[Mr Enternational]

How did you get from my statement " a little help now and then" to your asinine statement "you have arrived to pay all of their bills and fix all of their problems. " Also read it again, I never said a word about money, I said HELP now and then! You need to work on your reading comprehension. Next time try staying on topic and don't put words in my mouth.Ok. My bad. Well I guess since you mentiond how hard things are you will be giving them help with English lessons every now and then. You never specified exactly what the help was, but since you mentioned "it's always about the money" right before mentioning the help you would give, one can reasonably infer that the help would be in the form of the money that it is always about and not in the form of mowing their lawn or keeping an eye on their kids.

[RacShack]

All women are prostitutes. Are you going to believe and trust a hooker? I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you, my friend. Its always about the money, just like its always about the sex for men.Been looking for a while now would love to live on ocean in Arizona, please send all information on property, thanks.

[Elvis 2008]

Most, the first date if you use the right approach, Sometimes the second if I really like the woman, I'll wait. It's always about the money. I usually let it known during the initial conversation that I know life in Bogota is very difficult for a single woman / mother and they can use some help now and then. I also let it be known during conversation that I can't have anymore kids because I have a vasectomy, that usually relaxes them when it comes time for bare back if I want. A vast majority of woman are attracted to the Alpha male with the where-with-all to take care of them. An analogy: There was a beautiful white woman, blonde in my upscale neighborhood, from a good family. We had a trash company that would pick up our trash twice a week. One of the workers was a well built black dude, good guy always happy. BUT she met and married Charles Barkley of the 76 ers, A big ugly fuck jaja. The trash guy could never turn a hair on her head. Now you tell me why did she marry him and showed no interest at all in the other guy. It's about the money and can you give me a good life / a few days of being a Princesa.You let the trolls in with this one. LL, yes it takes money to buy a gift for a woman's kid, but you are negating the kind thought you had in buying the gift and the fact you were trying to make the child and child's mother happy. Money may get them into bed, but quality companionship is what gets them to stay. You are discounting that too about yourself.

To the rest of the guys interested in it, think about what you are shooting for in being a sugar daddy. If you really get down to it, a person could say a father is just there to give his daughter money but with proper direction right? It costs money to put a roof over her head and food on the table.

It is okay to do that because you are investing in your child. But if you are giving a kid money, and the kid takes it and snorts it all, you probably were better off getting a ho.

I usually do not have to explain it to women but when I am acting as sugar daddy, I am saying I will use my paternal skills and giving them my wisdom, guidance, company, and financial support and they in turn provide company, support, and sex, and this agreement is based on trust and hopefully it will evolve into a form of love. And I am sure you have a similar attitude.

Again, I am not even offering this to everyone, and the best women did not even get an offer. They just wanted to be around me and knew I would care for them.

I know the hos are just interested in cash and I am aware that some are going to pretend to be sugar babies to string me along. That is why I was always on the outlook for better or more solid prospects. I stopped when I found one and thought an upgrade over her was not possible.

[Igor54]

Does any one tried a Troya's dancer? I saw a pole dancer in Troya / Oct. 2021. She is 6 ft, dark skin but she is not black maybe some Jamaica blood, prefect body, 100% fit, no fat only muscles, very pretty, silicon boobs, 30 sh year old (I think) long Jamaica style hair, movie star attitude. She comes around 9 pm dance and leave. If you saw her, I don't need to explain, she behave and her attitude like her Dad is the president. Maybe she dances in other clubs, I saw her in Troya a few times. I forgot her name. Any info? Or suggestions? Woodman? Or someone on the ground? Thanks.

[Igor54]

Tavares, you are asking the wrong question. What do you really want? Get rid of the Bud Light image of two babes on your arm and a can of beer. Or let's go easier. What are deal breakers for you? On money, I want a woman who appreciates my generosity but can step in and take over or make it on her own if I cannot provide for her for a short time. Some guys are insecure and want women to be completely dependent on them because they like that level of control. Which type are you?

With sex, I want a woman who does not tell me no and who sucks my cock because she loves to. A lot of women have a caring gene. They literally got high when caring for you. They gets just as much pleasure sucking your dick as you do getting it. I want that. I usually like to control the action in bed but again I do not mind if the woman takes over on occasion. Some guys want complete control. Some want none.

My #1 criteria for a woman is that she makes me feel good sexually and emotionally. I know this cannot be a 100% thing but if I have woman causing more stress, shaming me, ETC, they need to go.

The reason I like seeking / SA is that the women there are open to going out with a foreign guy and an older guy where money is probably more important to them than looks and I want a target rich environment. My goal is not to have a bunch of women but the best woman / women I can get.Tavares, take it easy. Here, there are two groups: I am in pay per fuck group who fucks SF girls. The second group are highly skilled advanced Alfa males who fuck upper class Colombia women for free. Read the last 5 pages. Or if you have a girlfriend read it together, make her laugh.

[Woodman09]

Does any one tried a Troya's dancer? I saw a pole dancer in Troya / Oct. 2021. She is 6 ft, dark skin but she is not black maybe some Jamaica blood, prefect body, 100% fit, no fat only muscles, very pretty, silicon boobs, 30 sh year old (I think) long Jamaica style hair, movie star attitude. She comes around 9 pm dance and leave. If you saw her, I don't need to explain, she behave and her attitude like her Dad is the president. Maybe she dances in other clubs, I saw her in Troya a few times. I forgot her name. Any info? Or suggestions? Woodman? Or someone on the ground? Thanks.Hey Igor, I don't know too many girls there, I walked through tonight definitely some good action in there.

I know I had seen a really smoking hot 19 yo who looked like a Spice Girl -- this girl is a 9 maybe depending on her attitude. I have yet to session with her.

There was some good action on the streets tonight.

P.S. Attached is a flyer I got about a casa downtown--I know it has been there a while-- Have not checked it out.

[Kib123]

Miami Boy1 is 100% correct here. Frankly the last few pages of posts on this thread are just bizarre- is this ISG or the beta male dating club? I'm not sure why so many of these ultra suave players who have legions of hot and ready Colombian civilian women are belittling their incredibly virile and ultra-successful selves by spending time on a pay for play forum, but mysteries abound as we enter the New Year. And here I would remind you this is a Pay for Play forum where men with no illusions or delusion, who want real, actionable intel come to share and swap information so that process is easier, more efficient and fully realized. If you want to talk about how you get ladies hot and bothered by giving them gifts of lotion and other delusion fairy tales, I'm sure there is a forum out there somewhere for that. The International Give Ladies Lotion Guide. (IGLLG).

Thank again Miami Boy1 for the real talk here- Gringo Italiano posts are also extremely solid. I turn to these guys for information, not flatulent ramblings, so thanks again.Spot on!

I sometimes enjoy reading the fairytales for entertainment, but it has gotten a bit much lately, more like a teenage boy dating fantasy site. The forum is not that easy to navigate so focusing more on actionable intel would be far better for all.

[Captain Solo]

I know a few guys who let their SOs into their legal, business secrets.

When the relationships turned sour, the women used everything they knew, or could guess, to turn their mates' lives into hell with serious legal, criminal, financial problems. Then they add the children sex abuse charges. They would go to total war without seeing any gain, deplete assets to pay attorneys, then go broke near the end, begging the attorneys to fuck to offset legal fees, pop by pop. I would think twice about letting a woman control the nuclear football on Airforce 1 that can launch nuclear warheads, especially on days she's on the rag hehe.

Don't expect your SOs to always be honest and play fair with you. They won't when they are pissed off, sometimes even by petty issues. Don't let them into secrets that can cause problems. They can be far worse, more dangerous and more damaging than any thieving WG.

[LuvMexicanas]

Miami Boy1 is 100% correct here. Frankly the last few pages of posts on this thread are just bizarre- is this ISG or the beta male dating club? I'm not sure why so many of these ultra suave players who have legions of hot and ready Colombian civilian women are belittling their incredibly virile and ultra-successful selves by spending time on a pay for play forum, but mysteries abound as we enter the New Year. And here I would remind you this is a Pay for Play forum where men with no illusions or delusion, who want real, actionable intel come to share and swap information so that process is easier, more efficient and fully realized. If you want to talk about how you get ladies hot and bothered by giving them gifts of lotion and other delusion fairy tales, I'm sure there is a forum out there somewhere for that. The International Give Ladies Lotion Guide. (IGLLG).

Thank again Miami Boy1 for the real talk here- Gringo Italiano posts are also extremely solid. I turn to these guys for information, not flatulent ramblings, so thanks again."Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac" is stated right below InternationalSexGuide.Info at the very top of the page, which seems like a pretty good indicator supporting your assertion that this is a Pay for Play forum.

[Tavares]

Tavares, take it easy. Here, there are two groups: I am in pay per fuck group who fucks SF girls. The second group are highly skilled advanced Alfa males who fuck upper class Colombia women for free. Read the last 5 pages. Or if you have a girlfriend read it together, make her laugh.Apparently you are the only one who didn't miss my point: just like you I was being sarcastic. I belong to the first of the two groups you mentioned because the second one exists only in those Alfa males' minds: sorry Latina Lover#1, keep daydreaming...no logras siquiera hablar bien el español.

[Mr Enternational]

"Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac" is stated right below InternationalSexGuide.Info at the very top of the page, which seems like a pretty good indicator supporting your assertion that this is a Pay for Play forum.Yes. But it did not say giving money. It could be as little as the perception that you have access to money that is the aphrodisiac. If you want more pussy then spend more money on yourself.

[LuvMexicanas]

Yes. But it did not say giving money. It could be as little as the perception that you have access to money that is the aphrodisiac. If you want more pussy then spend more money on yourself.Yep, exactly why guys from wealthy countries so often travel to poor countries.

[Yossarian]

I know a few guys who let their SOs into their legal, business secrets.

When the relationships turned sour, the women used everything they knew, or could guess, to turn their mates' lives into hell with serious legal, criminal, financial problems. Then they add the children sex abuse charges. They would go to total war without seeing any gain, deplete assets to pay attorneys, then go broke near the end, begging the attorneys to fuck to offset legal fees, pop by pop. I would think twice about letting a woman control the nuclear football on Airforce 1 that can launch nuclear warheads, especially on days she's on the rag hehe.

Don't expect your SOs to always be honest and play fair with you. They won't when they are pissed off, sometimes even by petty issues. Don't let them into secrets that can cause problems. They can be far worse, more dangerous and more damaging than any thieving WG.Read and heed these wise words. I have seen this happen more (a lot more) than once.

[Yossarian]

Yes. But it did not say giving money. It could be as little as the perception that you have access to money that is the aphrodisiac. If you want more pussy then spend more money on yourself.I would add to this by saying confidence is right up there with money (or the illusion thereof) as the world's greatest aphrodisiac. When you have and employ both skillfully, you are slaying them right and left.

[Elvis 2008]

I would add to this by saying confidence is right up there with money (or the illusion thereof) as the world's greatest aphrodisiac. When you have and employ both skillfully, you are slaying them right and left.Exactly. And it is funny, there was this marine biologist studying which fish in an African lake became alpha. He made this joke that it was tomato cans. What he meant was that there is boxing reference that you beat up less skilled boxers to get your confidence up before taking on the champ. What he found was with each victory, conference rose as did testosterone. I think that is what guys need to do. Go for the 6's and 7's and land them before you take on the 10's.

But I really do not like the whole alpha thing. What I found with the alpha types is they never admit failure and do not learn from it. It is always, "Eh, I was not really trying to get that girl" when they get shot down. I found myself more identifying with the omega male who sets his own path rather than ruling over others. I do not want to be responsible for a pack of betas.

Where my confidence comes from is my total package which includes me but is not just me but the world I am letting you into and everyone you will meet and see in it. It also comes from seeing women become smarter and better before my eyes. So I am interviewing for the position of sugar baby, and I might not want you because there is a better candidate or I have better right now. You might not measure up.

But if am interested in you, and you say, "Nah, I just want $100" I think you are stupid because my sugar babies do much better financially in the long run than the hos do. And how many times have you talked to a ho with a plan?

The better women want not just money but to learn how to best deploy it. I think 3 in 4 hot Colombian women if you gave them $10,000 would be broke a year later.

[Igor54]

I know a few guys who let their SOs into their legal, business secrets.

When the relationships turned sour, the women used everything they knew, or could guess, to turn their mates' lives into hell with serious legal, criminal, financial problems. Then they add the children sex abuse charges. They would go to total war without seeing any gain, deplete assets to pay attorneys, then go broke near the end, begging the attorneys to fuck to offset legal fees, pop by pop. I would think twice about letting a woman control the nuclear football on Airforce 1 that can launch nuclear warheads, especially on days she's on the rag hehe.

Don't expect your SOs to always be honest and play fair with you. They won't when they are pissed off, sometimes even by petty issues. Don't let them into secrets that can cause problems. They can be far worse, more dangerous and more damaging than any thieving WG.This is 1000% real life. Print out and read to memories by heart.

[Igor54]

Yes. But it did not say giving money. It could be as little as the perception that you have access to money that is the aphrodisiac. If you want more pussy then spend more money on yourself.Don't be greedy they charged you 10 to 20 bucks. It is probably less than to pay for online porn.

[LatinaLover#1]

You let the trolls in with this one. LL, yes it takes money to buy a gift for a woman's kid, but you are negating the kind thought you had in buying the gift and the fact you were trying to make the child and child's mother happy. Money may get them into bed, but quality companionship is what gets them to stay. You are discounting that too about yourself.

To the rest of the guys interested in it, think about what you are shooting for in being a sugar daddy. If you really get down to it, a person could say a father is just there to give his daughter money but with proper direction right? It costs money to put a roof over her head and food on the table.

It is okay to do that because you are investing in your child. But if you are giving a kid money, and the kid takes it and snorts it all, you probably were better off getting a ho.

I usually do not have to explain it to women but when I am acting as sugar daddy, I am saying I will use my paternal skills and giving them my wisdom, guidance, company, and financial support and they in turn provide company, support, and sex, and this agreement is based on trust and hopefully it will evolve into a form of love. And I am sure you have a similar attitude.

Again, I am not even offering this to everyone, and the best women did not even get an offer. They just wanted to be around me and knew I would care for them.

I know the hos are just interested in cash and I am aware that some are going to pretend to be sugar babies to string me along. That is why I was always on the outlook for better or more solid prospects. I stopped when I found one and thought an upgrade over her was not possible.I was trying to show that there is an alternative to working girl fucking by the hour and a better experience with an educated stylish woman, that even a dweeb from the states can get a non pro / chipper with a little knowledge and a different mind set to make it happen. IF he WANTS IT! If it's not for you and not interested, skip over the post.

I was clear in stating that the 'by the hour' working girls have a place in this hobby, and some guys like it that way. Nothing wrong with that. I was like that years ago but I found as time went on, Help, Balcony, Del Rey, Las Cucardas in Lima got very, very old. I should have kept my big mouth shut and realized that some guys can't and won't accept other types of hobbying, so I'm lying, embellishing, etc. Not sure how much longer I'll be at this hobby, I don't get many hall passes these days but I thought some of my brothers could benefit from my experiences. I have a super Colombiana, We have been serious for the last 4 years and she will soon come to live with me in the USA for her post graduate studies. My future contributions to this form will be limited in the future. I wish ALL my brothers the best trips in the future and be safe.

[DramaFree11]

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[Elvis 2008]

This works other ways. Everybody is not in search of a long time anything. Short money and short time are just what the doctor ordered for some people.You are right, but you are on that site for an arrangement, the long term. So if I dis the woman for not taking my offer, it could be she is not interested in long term, which means she is being dishonest for being on the site or she is stupid.

I get that a lot of women have tons of reasons to reject a long term and long distance relationship. In fact, a lot of women are on the site because it is more discrete. They just want a time or two that they can meet a guy and cash in. What I have learned is that a lot of the women doing this are with guys they like / love, but they just want a few extra bucks and seeing a guy off seeking is the easiest way to do it without being labeled a ho (even though that is what they are doing).

If you are a woman who needs a guy to be there all the time, and many do, what I am offering is not a better offer than what they already have.

[LuvMexicanas]

This works other ways. Depends on what the person is looking for. There are tons of chicks saying dudes do not want a good woman. They just want a hole to fuck sometimes. Are those dudes stupid the same as the chicks that just want the $100 and run? Everybody is not in search of a long time anything. Short money and short time are just what the doctor ordered for some people.Exactly, I pay her to leave. I have plenty of money but an inverse amount of time.

[ManchesterCat]

Longer Report.

I've spent many-ier hour looking through posts on this forum and reading of legendary trips which I hoped to emulate. From stories of picking up non-pros to the legendary epic with Tiffany and other 'keepers' and basically anything by Vangabudo in Rio.

I think I've explored more options than I have ever before. Here's a rough play by play. Think it makes more sense to break down by 'scene' than by time.

Tinder / SA / other apps.

Perhaps controversial to ground tinder with SA. However, I have actually found a few of my Tinder dates on SA, so there's a bit of (but obviously not complete) overlap.

I've had a fair bit of success this trip with non-pros and have met 4 girls from Tinder / other apps and 3 from SA. I set my location on all apps to Bogota a few ahead of my trip and starting swiping and messaging. Very wide funnel initially, into only a few potential dates, and even fewer actual. The tinder girls never asked for anything, but I usually offer to pay for food, drinks etc.

In one notable case, I also offered to help her with a few (significant) things because she was struggling. SA for me is usually more business, most girls stated a clear amount they're after. You can definitely get higher quality girls, with established careers etc, which appeals to me. But, also makes it a bit harder to take them travelling. But, the strong emotional connection is obviously much more reward, and to be honest, harder to leave behind. I am supposed to leave Bogota this week. I change my mind twice a day on whether I want to extend out this leg of the trip.

I know there's a lot of debate around SA lately, my person view is – it's a platform that can be many things. Some guys use to get free dates, leveraging their success. You obviously have to be both successful and fairly good looking to pull this off, and even then, there are only some girls that would be open to this. If you're open to the business side, then your pool opens up, and this is obviously the avenue most people take. But it doesn't have to be exclusively one or the other. I've even had a girl talk business initially and then change their mind after meeting me in person.

I got numbers from around 10 girls before my trip, a few I was really excited about. A few were out of town etc. And so far, I have only met 3, and had varying levels of success. You can get great outcomes, but I've also had to invest a fair bit of time.

As a final note, the completely non-pro scene is also interesting. I asked out a few regular girls and was surprised that they could be quite receptive. YMMV, obviously.

Santa Fe.

I initially wrote off the street scene, but due to the time of the year, the clubs were often slow, and the street scene often had more options. However, to be honest, because of the scenes available, I actually didn't actually fancy many girls in Santa Fe. I never thought I'the say this, but the environment became challenging for me very quickly, and a girl had to really catch my eye after my first night.

I really enjoyed doing the laps with other members of the board of the area. On my first night, I really indulged and picked out 4/5 girls, and got a few numbers. But to date, haven't really lined anything up. Some girls were going out of town, some others my interest just fizzled with.

The main reason is because it just feels more natural with girls from apps or SA. The interactions were obviously different. Even Semi-pros were all very new, and the dates felt better, and I got further mileage as well, even if it was more expensive than 50 k.

Love to club environment though still. It's been quiet lately, there have been more guys than girls in the clubs when I've visited, with slim pickings. Other members I've been with tells me that it is usually much, much better and I believe them. I am eager to go again, in new year once things are closer to normal. I knew this was what I would be up again before coming.

Casas / Mezzanine.

Ever suffering from FOMO, I did a circuit of the casas and mezzanine. I thought mezzanine was better than the casas, however, had mostly the same drawbacks as SF.

In some cases for Mezzanine, the rooms were even smaller though. As I think is well known. I didn't through many doors at mezzanine, and definitely wasn't disappointed, but because of how spoilt I've become from the non-scene, it didn't quite feel as good to me as it would have in past trips.

The quality at the casas were really low to me, and I struggled to find anything, and only one girl caught my eye.

[Jazzy Daddy]

Longer Report.

I've spent many-ier hour looking through posts on this forum and reading of legendary trips which I hoped to emulate. From stories of picking up non-pros to the legendary epic with Tiffany and other 'keepers' and basically anything by Vangabudo in Rio.

I think I've explored more options than I have ever before. Here's a rough play by play. Think it makes more sense to break down by 'scene' than by time.

Tinder / SA / other apps.

Perhaps controversial to ground tinder with SA. However, I have actually found a few of my Tinder dates on SA, so there's a bit of (but obviously not complete) overlap.

I've had a fair bit of success this trip with non-pros and have met 4 girls from Tinder / other apps and 3 from SA. I set my location on all apps to Bogota a few ahead of my trip and starting swiping and messaging. Very wide funnel initially, into only a few potential dates, and even fewer actual. The tinder girls never asked for anything, but I usually offer to pay for food, drinks etc.

In one notable case, I also offered to help her with a few (significant) things because she was struggling. SA for me is usually more business, most girls stated a clear amount they're after. You can definitely get higher quality girls, with established careers etc, which appeals to me. But, also makes it a bit harder to take them travelling. But, the strong emotional connection is obviously much more reward, and to be honest, harder to leave behind. I am supposed to leave Bogota this week. I change my mind twice a day on whether I want to extend out this leg of the trip.

I know there's a lot of debate around SA lately, my person view is it's a platform that can be many things. Some guys use to get free dates, leveraging their success. You obviously have to be both successful and fairly good looking to pull this off, and even then, there are only some girls that would be open to this. If you're open to the business side, then your pool opens up, and this is obviously the avenue most people take. But it doesn't have to be exclusively one or the other. I've even had a girl talk business initially and then change their mind after meeting me in person.

I got numbers from around 10 girls before my trip, a few I was really excited about. A few were out of town etc. And so far, I have only met 3, and had varying levels of success. You can get great outcomes, but I've also had to invest a fair bit of time.

As a final note, the completely non-pro scene is also interesting. I asked out a few regular girls and was surprised that they could be quite receptive. YMMV, obviously.

Santa Fe.

I initially wrote off the street scene, but due to the time of the year, the clubs were often slow, and the street scene often had more options. However, to be honest, because of the scenes available, I actually didn't actually fancy many girls in Santa Fe. I never thought I'the say this, but the environment became challenging for me very quickly, and a girl had to really catch my eye after my first night.

I really enjoyed doing the laps with other members of the board of the area. On my first night, I really indulged and picked out 4/5 girls, and got a few numbers. But to date, haven't really lined anything up. Some girls were going out of town, some others my interest just fizzled with.

The main reason is because it just feels more natural with girls from apps or SA. The interactions were obviously different. Even Semi-pros were all very new, and the dates felt better, and I got further mileage as well, even if it was more expensive than 50 k.

Love to club environment though still. It's been quiet lately, there have been more guys than girls in the clubs when I've visited, with slim pickings. Other members I've been with tells me that it is usually much, much better and I believe them. I am eager to go again, in new year once things are closer to normal. I knew this was what I would be up again before coming.

Casas / Mezzanine.

Ever suffering from FOMO, I did a circuit of the casas and mezzanine. I thought mezzanine was better than the casas, however, had mostly the same drawbacks as SF.

In some cases for Mezzanine, the rooms were even smaller though. As I think is well known. I didn't through many doors at mezzanine, and definitely wasn't disappointed, but because of how spoilt I've become from the non-scene, it didn't quite feel as good to me as it would have in past trips.

The quality at the casas were really low to me, and I struggled to find anything, and only one girl caught my eye.Thank you bringing the conversation back to informative reports and away from all this self aggrandizing gossip. "Nice work if you can get it and you can get it if you try".

[Elvis 2008]

I got numbers from around 10 girls before my trip, a few I was really excited about. A few were out of town etc. And so far, I have only met 3, and had varying levels of success. You can get great outcomes, but I've also had to invest a fair bit of time.So I started with about 200 conversations over a year and a half or so. I guess that yielded like 40 dates. 30 were ho types or I just was not interested in pursuing them. There were 10 or so that I pursued, and of those, there were like 5 or so that were sugar baby material IMO and then the one distinguished herself. I would say the average woman was a 7 or 8 in looks and I was with what I would call two 10's and two 9's. On average, the seeking women were not as skilled in bed as hos but most were willing to go bare. Of course, I picked out the best performing women in bed so those women on average were better than girls.

I think I was patient because the odds are even worse in the USA, and it was actually easier there than here. Don Carlos put out a wider net, spent more time in Colombia than I did, and he caught more than I did as I would expect.

I like how you described it as work, and it is not easy. I also like how you say it is kind of hard to go back to WGs after you have done seeking. I totally agree with that too.

[Igor54]

I tried to buy a girl from online agency in Bogota. That was a slow chatting and it was obvious that they are looking for an available girl. Finally I said no, and ordered from photoprepagos. The next day, I texted to a random girl on photoprepagos. She was going to come, but in 10 min she texted that she checked my number somewhere and my phone number had negative reviews that is why she canceled. I can connect it only to the agency. Any suggestions where they posted their review?

[Xzander75]

Hello,

I'm looking to meet a fellow monger to go on the hunt. I'll be 2 week in Bogota, 2 week in Medellin, and 1 month in Cartagena.

My Spanish si not perfect but I can get any thing I want.

Send me a message if interested.

[ClownDays]

So I started with about 200 conversations over a year and a half or so.This is why most people have shitty SA / Facebook / Tinder / Badoo / Cupid dates and experiences. They are unwilling to do the mountain of work it takes to have a great experience.

[Pussycat123]

I like them young and fresh, ideally in the 18-23 yo range. Most of the girls of this age are unemployed, or have shitty low paying job, or study, and many live with their parents. Let's be realistic here, 95%+ SA girls in MDE and BOG of that age are hos, they expect to get paid, because nobody wants to fuck an old gringo fart for free. If they just want to get a good dick and not get paid, they have plenty of options among their Colombian peers. Hooking up with the above mentioned professionals is doable only if you are okay with dating older women, not the hottest ones, most likely divorced and with kids. You also need to be ready to invest some time in those women as many won't fuck you on the first date. Average gringo monger coming to Colombia is average or below average looking, usually out of shape, older dude who has limited time and budget. Dating a professional is not even feasible to them, and the language barrier makes it even worse. Unless you speak Spanish, look fit, are relatively young, spend a lot of time in Colombia and have some disposable cash, dating a hot freebies / non-pro who "can't get enough of your dick" is impossible. Again, I'm talking about an average monger. Elvis, if you can pull it off, congrats, good for you, but I'm sure your situation is different and you are not an average gringo coming down to Colombia for a few days. So suggesting not to discuss price / gifts upfront, or not offer to pay (in other words, treating them like they are not hos but regular women) won't get a monger laid, simply because the girls will not be interested in meeting, that's the reality.Facts.

Very insightful analysis of the situation.

[DonCarlos1234]

So I started with about 200 conversations over a year and a half or so. I guess that yielded like 40 dates. 30 were ho types or I just was not interested in pursuing them. There were 10 or so that I pursued, and of those, there were like 5 or so that were sugar baby material IMO and then the one distinguished herself. I would say the average woman was a 7 or 8 in looks and I was with what I would call two 10's and two 9's. On average, the seeking women were not as skilled in bed as hos but most were willing to go bare. Of course, I picked out the best performing women in bed so those women on average were better than girls.

I think I was patient because the odds are even worse in the USA, and it was actually easier there than here. Don Carlos put out a wider net, spent more time in Colombia than I did, and he caught more than I did as I would expect.

I like how you described it as work, and it is not easy. I also like how you say it is kind of hard to go back to WGs after you have done seeking. I totally agree with that too.My friend Elvis. And the board members. Happy New Years! I have scheduled 6 weeks in Colombia and just now beginning to feel it's not enough time. Yes I found some 50 girls total in or near three major cities (Not Cartagena) I know ½ won't show up, nor be perfect 10's or will disappear before I get there. Here's the rub. This took me nearly 5 days on line and it's not done yet. Still need to close the deal. And I will have to fly around to 3 or 4 cities. That is way too much! Interviewing this many is also crushing work. I am considering have 2 places to stay, 2 phones, maybe 3. LOL.

So I messaged a couple hot ho's I know for back up to relieve this awful stress searching for girls on SA. LOL I will probably look up my 2 bilingual guides so we can just go straight to Santa Fe, Poblado and Girls Club. This is hard work and that stress builds up. I understand why you would want to just pay and play, just to relieve the stress of chasing.

I have found girls beyond 10's in looks to hook up with in Colombia. In the USA sadly 1 or 2 every 5-10 years. Not as hot. Here is the philosophical question. WHY? Is finding and being with the most gorgeous women I can find so important? What good is a penis if you don't use it? Why does porn make so much money?

So if I end up with ONE girl (which I already have) in Bogota. I am way ahead of what I would accomplish in any other county or situation.

Elvis how and where do you interview multiple candidates? Online? WS? Restaurants?

[Pussycat123]

Rather than pontificating here is just my report from boots on the ground:

Santa Fe.

Seemed pretty busy, lots of girls on the street, going rate seemed to be 30-50 k for 15 minutes and about 10 k for the room. The streets are disgusting and covered with trash. I didn't go into the clubs. I didn't feel it was unsafe; The biggest risk is probably being robbed by a streetwalker when you are in the room. I did see a few trannies and based on hearsay they are the most dangerous. If streetwalkers are your thing, maybe to avoid problems you could pick one of the girls who is standing in front of one the short time hotels and if she works in the same place every day she is less likely to rob you vs some gal on some random street corner.

SA.

I did hit some Seeking girls. The prices ranged from 150 k to 250 k plus taxi for two to three hours at my room, to 350k for overnight. They ranged from gals living in the southern barrios to a medical student, so quite a wide range actually. I asked them to bring an ID every time and I cancelled an appointment with one girl who said she had lost her ID. They all have an ID (Cedula), so if they don't there is probably something wrong. I do feel that Seeking gals tend to charge more especially if they speak English. One girl asked for 600 k. I'm sure that if you could find the same girls in another way, eg. On Facebook, they will probably charge less. Unless you are Tom Cruise you should expect to pay for Seeking girls. (The whole premise of the platform is an "arrangement" whereby you trade something. E. g. Sex for money). The overnight girl showed up, then at midnight claimed her kid was sick and she had to go...i didnt beleive a word but was happy for her to go actually as she was lackluster. She claimed she was saving money to study english in Seattle.

Tinder.

I used Tinder but it just sucked, hardly any hits.

Transportation.

Uber and Didi sucked. Not many cars, cancel all the time. It seemed easier to to hail a yellow cab. One time I called a Didi for a gal and it broke down in the middle of a slum. The gal was panicking but the driver finally got it going.

Covid test.

As mentioned by another BM I used Profamillia on CL 34 #14-52. It is like Planned Parenthood and I guess they are just doing testing on the side. It opens at around 7 am, pay 90 k at the cashier for antigen test, wait under the tent for about 30 minutes, get tested, then wait about another 30 mins for the paper result. Can be a bit tricky if you don't speak Spanish. Synlab has a place at the airport but it had a huge line when I passed by.

ATMs.

BBVA reliably gave me 300 k, rate close to 4 k COP / USD, with a fee of about 20 kCOP. BancoColombia denied me every time.

Other sources of girls.

I did strike up a conversation with the security guard in the place I was staying. He told me freelancers usually charge 100-150 k for three to four hours. I didn't get to try, but getting to know a local you can trust could let you tap into sources that are not usually available to tourists.

Accommodation.

I stayed in an airbnb near Santa Fe. It was $35 US per night. I think if you want to hit Santa Fe you are probably better staying within walking distance of it. However, if you want to hit casas you are better of staying in Chapinero as there are more casas up there. The downtown near Santa Fe is safe enough in the daytime but its a graffiti covered dump and is dead and pretty sketchy at night. Santa Fe / Centro wasnt bad for meeting freelancers though as most of them lived in the barrios (slums) in the south.

Foreigners.

I felt there were very few tourists in town. I think Bogota isn't on most travellers list, vs Medellin which is getting on the (sex) tourist trail. Most of the girls I met claimed they had never met a foreigner before.

Vaccine card
Several places, e.g. Montseratte and the museums asked to see vaccine proof and a picture ID for entry. Most restaurants didnt care.

Coming back to the US
At Copa airlines check in I needed to show antigen Covid test within 1 day of travel, US online Covid attestation, check Mig and vaccine proof....damn.

[Georgest]

I hate to as but what is SA? Is this an APP. What is the full name to search and download and how you find girls on SA.

Thanks.

[Quiksilver]

I tried to buy a girl from online agency in Bogota. That was a slow chatting and it was obvious that they are looking for an available girl. Finally I said no, and ordered from photoprepagos. The next day, I texted to a random girl on photoprepagos. She was going to come, but in 10 min she texted that she checked my number somewhere and my phone number had negative reviews that is why she canceled. I can connect it only to the agency. Any suggestions where they posted their review?Hmmmm. Have never heard of this before. I'm just spit-ball here but perhaps she spoke with some other chicas who you have met before? Perhaps she just decided to cancel for some reason?

Only thing that I can possibly think of is another forum similar to ISG but is primarily used by local mongers and is primarily in Spanish. I don't want to break any forum rules or piss anyone off, but I'm sure an internet search would yield you the forum name. First part of the forum begins with Don. Again, I've never seen or heard about anything when it comes to the customer side of things, but seems that some chicas post messages there. Maybe there?

[Quiksilver]

Rather than pontificating here is just my report from boots on the ground:

Santa Fe.

Seemed pretty busy, lots of girls on the street, going rate seemed to be 30-50 k for 15 minutes and about 10 k for the room. The streets are disgusting and covered with trash. I didn't go into the clubs. I didn't feel it was unsafe; The biggest risk is probably being robbed by a streetwalker when you are in the room. I did see a few trannies and based on hearsay they are the most dangerous. If streetwalkers are your thing, maybe to avoid problems you could pick one of the girls who is standing in front of one the short time hotels and if she works in the same place every day she is less likely to rob you vs some gal on some random street corner....Nice, informative, and concise report!

Interesting note about Didi and Uber. Other than closing time on a Saturday night at Andres Carnes in Chia and not really being able to service the airport, have never had a problem with Uber other than when it wasn't available for a time a couple of years ago. Looks like that may be changing again.

Your observations with showing vaccine proof are pretty much what I expected when they came out with these weeks ago. I suspect that once you get out of the bigger cities, enforcement will be minimal if at any at all. I know you didn't enter the clubs in SF, but did you see anyone asking / showing vaccine proof?

Again, thanks for posting your report!

[Ggekko2009]

Rather than pontificating here is just my report from boots on the ground:

SA.

I did hit some Seeking girls. The prices ranged from 150 k to 250 k plus taxi for two to three hours at my room, to 350k for overnight. They ranged from gals living in the southern barrios to a medical student, so quite a wide range actually. I asked them to bring an ID every time and I cancelled an appointment with one girl who said she had lost her ID. They all have an ID (Cedula), so if they don't there is probably something wrong. I do feel that Seeking gals tend to charge more especially if they speak English. One girl asked for 600 k. I'm sure that if you could find the same girls in another way, eg. On Facebook, they will probably charge less. Unless you are Tom Cruise you should expect to pay for Seeking girls. (The whole premise of the platform is an "arrangement" whereby you trade something. E. g. Sex for money). The overnight girl showed up, then at midnight claimed her kid was sick and she had to go...i didnt beleive a word but was happy for her to go actually as she was lackluster. She claimed she was saving money to study english in Seattle.
I did not bother with SA when I was last there. I felt USD100 even for a month to use the platform is a waste of money. However, based on your feedback, it may warrant a second look the next time. I like girls with lower mileage who do not do this full time and whom I can engage her as an escort if there is chemistry between us. The price that you mentioned above is reasonable for multiple hours and relatively cheap for a long term LT service.

When I was last there in Bogota with my Colombian amiga girl, we were both looking for girls via mileroticos to service us. Then again, the price is at a higher premium since we need additional services from the chicas like atenciand a la pareja (attention to couple). Might be nice if I can find more bi-sexual girls in SA.



Transportation.

Uber and Didi sucked. Not many cars, cancel all the time. It seemed easier to to hail a yellow cab. One time I called a Didi for a gal and it broke down in the middle of a slum. The gal was panicking but the driver finally got it going.
I got cancelled a few times by Uber as well, until I switched my payment from credit card to cash. I was told that these drivers do not like credit card as payment since it will take a while before they seem them from Uber.



Covid test.

As mentioned by another BM I used Profamillia on CL 34 #14-52. It is like Planned Parenthood and I guess they are just doing testing on the side. It opens at around 7 am, pay 90 k at the cashier for antigen test, wait under the tent for about 30 minutes, get tested, then wait about another 30 mins for the paper result. Can be a bit tricky if you don't speak Spanish. Synlab has a place at the airport but it had a huge line when I passed by.
I paid extra for them to just come to my hotel for the test. More convenient for me that way. Also, avoid paying for any extra covid test service when purchasing your ticket from Avianca. I made that mistake since there is no communication from Avianca or anybody even up to the day when I am to fly out. Luckily I have scheduled for the test with another company as a backup. Pure money grab from Avianca if I may say so.



ATMs.

BBVA reliably gave me 300 k, rate close to 4 k COP / USD, with a fee of about 20 kCOP. BancoColombia denied me every time.

Other sources of girls.

I did strike up a conversation with the security guard in the place I was staying. He told me freelancers usually charge 100-150 k for three to four hours. I didn't get to try, but getting to know a local you can trust could let you tap into sources that are not usually available to tourists.
From my last trip, Banco Davivienda seems to be the better option for me. Best ATM rates that I had seen, and better yet, it allowed me to withdraw up to 2,000 mil at a time. The only downside is that they only offer the 50 mil cash and no longer the 100 mil. Is 100 mil cash not in circulation anymore? I prefer not to carry around thick wads of cash.



Accommodation.

I stayed in an airbnb near Santa Fe. It was $35 US per night. I think if you want to hit Santa Fe you are probably better staying within walking distance of it. However, if you want to hit casas you are better of staying in Chapinero as there are more casas up there. The downtown near Santa Fe is safe enough in the daytime but its a graffiti covered dump and is dead and pretty sketchy at night. Santa Fe / Centro wasnt bad for meeting freelancers though as most of them lived in the barrios (slums) in the south.
I believe there is the old part of Bogota where the Santa Fe is and the new part of town which I think is called the Zona T, Zona are? Anyway, I went to the area for a breakfast one time and the area was pretty nice. They even have Audi and Maserati dealerships there. Good enough for me, LOL.



Foreigners.

I felt there were very few tourists in town. I think Bogota isn't on most travellers list, vs Medellin which is getting on the (sex) tourist trail. Most of the girls I met claimed they had never met a foreigner before.

Vaccine card
Several places, e.g. Montseratte and the museums asked to see vaccine proof and a picture ID for entry. Most restaurants didnt care.
Very true on the girls who would claim about prior experience with foreigners. I think by that it would mean non-Central or non-South Americans.



Coming back to the US
At Copa airlines check in I needed to show antigen Covid test within 1 day of travel, US online Covid attestation, check Mig and vaccine proof....damn.Avianca even made me sign a few pages of declaration, with everything in Spanish, saying that I am fully vaccinated yadiyada. Not sure why I have been singled out on the flight back to sign this, even after I had shown my negative covid test. Are they not allowed to legally ask for my vaccination status to fly back home (who knows?) While they can demand to see that for non-Americans? I would have gladly just shown them my vaccination status if they were only to ask if I can just not waste my time signing those damn declaration papers. Anyway, it's weird and I see it as a cover your ass thing by Avianca.

[Pussycat123]

Nice, informative, and concise report!

Interesting note about Didi and Uber. Other than closing time on a Saturday night at Andres Carnes in Chia and not really being able to service the airport, have never had a problem with Uber other than when it wasn't available for a time a couple of years ago. Looks like that may be changing again.

Your observations with showing vaccine proof are pretty much what I expected when they came out with these weeks ago. I suspect that once you get out of the bigger cities, enforcement will be minimal if at any at all. I know you didn't enter the clubs in SF, but did you see anyone asking / showing vaccine proof?

Again, thanks for posting your report!Thank you.

I didn't see anyone asking about vaccine proof in SF, but as I mentioned, I didn't enter any of the clubs. The short time hotels didn't care. I think you could just have a picture of the vaccine card and your picture ID just in case. The police do sometimes just stop people and ask for ID so its good practice to carry a picture ID at least. (e. G. A drivers license if you don't want to carry your passport).

[Pussycat123]

I did not bother with SA when I was last there. I felt USD100 even for a month to use the platform is a waste of money. However, based on your feedback, it may warrant a second look the next time. I like girls with lower mileage who do not do this full time and whom I can engage her as an escort if there is chemistry between us. The price that you mentioned above is reasonable for multiple hours and relatively cheap for a long term LT service.

When I was last there in Bogota with my Colombian amiga girl, we were both looking for girls via mileroticos to service us. Then again, the price is at a higher premium since we need additional services from the chicas like atenciand a la pareja (attention to couple). Might be nice if I can find more bi-sexual girls in SA.

Reply: Interestingly, one of the seeking girls said she was bisexual, and that her gf forbid her from meeting girls, but it was ok for her to meet guys!

I got cancelled a few times by Uber as well, until I switched my payment from credit card to cash. I was told that these drivers do not like credit card as payment since it will take a while before they seem them from Uber.

I paid extra for them to just come to my hotel for the test. More convenient for me that way. Also, avoid paying for any extra covid test service when purchasing your ticket from Avianca. I made that mistake since there is no communication from Avianca or anybody even up to the day when I am to fly out. Luckily I have scheduled for the test with another company as a backup. Pure money grab from Avianca if I may say so.

From my last trip, Banco Davivienda seems to be the better option for me. Best ATM rates that I had seen, and better yet, it allowed me to withdraw up to 2,000 mil at a time. The only downside is that they only offer the 50 mil cash and no longer the 100 mil. Is 100 mil cash not in circulation anymore? I prefer not to carry around thick wads of cash.

Reply: I only saw 50 mil bills

I believe there is the old pa
rt of Bogota where the Santa Fe is and the new part of town which I think is called the Zona T, Zona are? Anyway, I went to the area for a breakfast one time and the area was pretty nice. They even have Audi and Maserati dealerships there. Good enough for me, LOL.

Reply: I think Zona T is further north, near Chapinero.I stayed in the downtown area near BD Bacata.


Very true on the girls who would claim about prior experience with foreigners. I think by that it would mean non-Central or non-South Americans.

Reply: Yes, by foreigner I mean north Americans, Europeans, etc.

Avianca even made me sign a few pages of declaration, with everything in Spanish, saying that I am fully vaccinated yadiyada. Not sure why I have been singled out on the flight back to sign this, even after I had shown my negative covid test. Are they not allowed to legally ask for my vaccination status to fly back home (who knows?) While they can demand to see that for non-Americans? I would have gladly just shown them my vaccination status if they were only to ask if I can just not waste my time signing those damn declaration papers. Anyway, it's weird and I see it as a cover your ass thing by Avianca.Reply: Copa airlines had a similar thing, but it was online.

[Woodman09]

Thank you.

I didn't see anyone asking about vaccine proof in SF, but as I mentioned, I didn't enter any of the clubs. The short time hotels didn't care. I think you could just have a picture of the vaccine card and your picture ID just in case. The police do sometimes just stop people and ask for ID so its good practice to carry a picture ID at least. (e. G. A drivers license if you don't want to carry your passport).They don't ask for vax proof in the clubs-- No One Gives a crap about it. And Everyone is Fine.

[Mr Enternational]

I like girls with lower mileage who do not do this full time and whom I can engage her as an escort if there is chemistry between us.And what helps you believe they have lower mileage? Because ONE place they advertise is a website that cost $100 for guys? Everyone likes chicks with lower mileage so everyone runs over there to get chicks with lower mileage in turn making them chicks with higher mileage. Hmmm.

Or maybe you believe she is only a hooker every third Thursday from 5-7 pm and just happens to be luck that that is when you are in town. Just because they do not do it full time does not mean they do not do it all the time. All you know is what they tell you.

A lot of times if I order a chick off the internet then she will ask where I saw her ad. This is because different sites are known to have different general prices. If I saw her on site A she knows to charge me prices relative to site A and if site B then prices relative to site B. This is why I never tell them which site, but if they give me some high price, I say but your ad says a lower price; because they do not advertise on only one site.

[Igor54]

I do not use SA. Any ideas, male via female full membership price?

[Ggekko2009]

Reply: Interestingly, one of the seeking girls said she was bisexual, and that her gf forbid her from meeting girls, but it was ok for her to meet guys!
Thanks for that info. This is really helpful. I went into SA and did an initial scan of those in Bogota. Many of them in fact look good. Of course, I will never know if any of them are catfish, but I would tend filter out those that look too good to be true, such as model photo shoots.

If I may ask, how do you typically operate within this platform? Do you initiate a chat with them directly and then bring up the services that they are willing to offer etc?

What is the typical response rate from the girls in those list? How far ahead do you usually initiate contact with them?

[Elvis 2008]

And what helps you believe they have lower mileage? Because ONE place they advertise is a website that cost $100 for guys? Everyone likes chicks with lower mileage so everyone runs over there to get chicks with lower mileage in turn making them chicks with higher mileage. Hmmm.

Or maybe you believe she is only a hooker every third Thursday from 5-7 pm and just happens to be luck that that is when you are in town. Just because they do not do it full time does not mean they do not do it all the time. All you know is what they tell you.Good point, but you have to know the numbers. There are 4 X as many women on seeking as men. In some countries, the ratio is much better for men. A $100 is nothing for men in the USA and a little harder for men in Mexico (though there are more Mexican men on seeking than anywhere), but it is more of a deterrent in Colombia. So in Bogota, you probably have a few hundred men looking at 10,000+ women. Could they be hos elsewhere? I guess but does it even matter?

I met a gal who worked retail. She was an ex beauty queen from Venezuela. She was amazingly fashionable, danced great, and had the tightest pussy I had been with in years. She said she had not had sex for years and maybe she had not. She was not skilled orally at all.

I see her a second time and take her shopping. The women pushed for all that she could get. The bill was crazy high for someone in Colombia. Up until then, she had not mentioned a price and not been terribly materialistic. She told me I was the first guy she met from the site. Shortly thereafter, it is pretty clear that she is just interested in money and not me at all and I break it off with her. She is a ho who did a good job hiding she was a ho, but I followed her on Instagram.

A few months later, she shows that she has a treasure of things. Silk this, gold that. She hit the jackpot and I think wanted to show me and others she did. I think she was trying to show me that she had it made. Maybe she was hoping I would react because two weeks later, she unfriended me. A few months later, she reappears on seeking (obviously the guy who bought her all that stuff learned what she was like I did) and then finally fades away. I bet she got no new takers for her BS.

Seeking shows how long you have been on the site. So if you have been on for years, no one is going to consider you low volume. It was nice fucking that tight pussy but if even I thought she was low volume and not truly a ho, that was quickly disproved. Hell, she was as big a ho as I ever met even. What was obvious to me after I met her is that she was not going to be low volume for long.

For the record though Mr. E, she exuded a health, class, and energy I have not seen from any dancer, ho, or club girl. Appearance wise, you could bring home to your family and not be embarrassed and I have only met women like her from seeking.

[ManchesterCat]

Closing out Bogota.

Sad to be leaving Bogota, but I think I've done enough here. Have 2 tinder girls interested in maybe coming up to Medellin to visit. Both early 20's and good families so pretty much paying their own way, challenge is them getting leave from work.

On my last day, caught up again with the other board member, took a walk-through SF. It was a Monday and the first in the new year, unbelievable slow. And, really confirmed for me the SF street scene isn't for me. You might be excited by it at first, I was too, but personally, I prefer to pay more for a better experience. The SF club scene certainly has its place, there something special about going out drinking with some friends and knowing you could have any girl in the place.

My buddy asked me what my highlight was, and it was a girl from seeking. Dyed white, blonde, slightly punk look, perfect English (she lived in US for a while), petite build, and for me, the best figure of anyone I saw in Bogota. With her permission, I'm posting her name on SA, which is Tallulah (only one in Bogota at time of post). I know I'm wasting my time but. Don't be a dick.

Also made an appointment through an agency, did not disappoint. I've focused so much on non-pros; I've forgotten how nice and simple a complete pro can be.

I'm onto Medellin now, have a few (but less) contacts in the bag. Always keen for a drink. Let me know if you have questions or want to hang out.

P.S.

Seen a few notes lately on logistics, so here's mine, quickly:

- Only used Servibanca ATMs, they have a $2,000 k limit for overseas cards, which is great. I always decline conversion and get the Visa / Mastercard rate.

- Used LATAM for travel between Bogota and Medellin (Premium). Had to change my flight, and they were slow, but ultimately good to deal with.

- Uber the whole time. Benefit to Taxis (ordered through uber app) is that you can sit in the back rather than in the front – great if you have company.

- AirBnB – the check-in desk thing can be interesting, if you're trying to sign in guests. I had no issues, but as an observation, if you get your guests to act like the resident and head straight for elevator. You can sometimes bypass. My buddy had to sign me in once, hilarious.

[NoMoreNails]

Rounding up a short trip to Bogotá before heading to Medellin.

Hopefully works off a tiny piece of my debt to this forum.

Arrived New Year's Day. City was almost completely empty, and a lot of things were closed until 3rd. Photoprepagos was very tough to get replies, I believe a lot of the girls weren't working, but their adverts were still being posted automatically. Definitely improved after 3/4 Jan.

I'm not too serious about this stuff, so didn't really go into Santa Fe, but the little piece I saw wasn't exactly hopping either.

Saw two girls from eróticas Bogotá. Xiomy first, skinny, fairly pretty, but not full of confidence. My somewhat poor Spanish probably didn't help. Wouldn't repeat but don't regret it.

Zaira however was phenomenal. Think she's been mentioned on this board previously. Skinny, fantastic body and very pretty.

A few tattoos have been removed from the photos on their website. Extremely energetic, full of confidence and speaks great English. A pleasure in all respects. Can't recommend her enough.

[Ggekko2009]

Closing out Bogota.

Sad to be leaving Bogota, but I think I've done enough here. I know exactly how that feels, since I felt sad too when I left Bogota. Even though I was there once for only a few days, it has begun to grow on me.

I would love to check the newer part of the city at Zona Rosa or Zona T the next time, since I like to go clubbing at higher end clubs with good techno, EDM and House music. Looks like I would have to use SA the next time to secure a girl or two to be my escorts, and improve on my conversational Spanish before my next trip.

[Mr Enternational]

There are 4 X as many women on seeking as men. In some countries, the ratio is much better for men. A $100 is nothing for men in the USA and a little harder for men in Mexico (though there are more Mexican men on seeking than anywhere), but it is more of a deterrent in Colombia.Last year a poster mentioned doing something that I had never thought of. Evidently Cupid price discriminates. He set his VPN to Argentina. When he went to pay on Cupid it was way cheaper using Argentine Pesos than what it costs paying from USA in USD or Europe in Euros. Maybe this same thing would work for Seeking.

[Ggekko2009]

Rounding up a short trip to Bogot before heading to Medellin.

Hopefully works off a tiny piece of my debt to this forum.

Arrived New Year's Day. City was almost completely empty, and a lot of things were closed until 3rd. Photoprepagos was very tough to get replies, I believe a lot of the girls weren't working, but their adverts were still being posted automatically. Definitely improved after 3/4 Jan.

I'm not too serious about this stuff, so didn't really go into Santa Fe, but the little piece I saw wasn't exactly hopping either.

Saw two girls from erticas Bogot. Xiomy first, skinny, fairly pretty, but not full of confidence. My somewhat poor Spanish probably didn't help. Wouldn't repeat but don't regret it.

Zaira however was phenomenal. Think she's been mentioned on this board previously. Skinny, fantastic body and very pretty.

A few tattoos have been removed from the photos on their website. Extremely energetic, full of confidence and speaks great English. A pleasure in all respects. Can't recommend her enough.Welcome to the club. Report like yours makes this forum better.

Regarding Eroticas Bogota, I had a very good experience with both Hanna and Fernanda. Fernanda was passionate and l like her services.

[DramaFree11]

This is why most people have shitty SA / Facebook / Tinder / Badoo / Cupid dates and experiences. They are unwilling to do the mountain of work it takes to have a great experience.Great point. Some guys get upset when someone says no or they have a bad experience. I try to learn from my mistakes and just keep moving forward. Never give up or get frustrated, you will be surprised what might happen.

[Elvis 2008]

Thanks for that info. This is really helpful. I went into SA and did an initial scan of those in Bogota. Many of them in fact look good. Of course, I will never know if any of them are catfish, but I would tend filter out those that look too good to be true, such as model photo shoots.

If I may ask, how do you typically operate within this platform? Do you initiate a chat with them directly and then bring up the services that they are willing to offer etc?

What is the typical response rate from the girls in those list? How far ahead do you usually initiate contact with them?I never met a girl with fake pics on SA. As for how to operate, set your search parameter to the women who are newly on seeking and go for the ones you like there the most. Your hit rate may not be as high as the ones who are on the site all the time but you are less likely to get that seasoned hos. If they have been on for multiple years, they probably are hos.

For the most part, I would refrain from setting a price unless you are asked. If she mentions a price, she is probably a WG. The best experiences I had were when no price was mentioned. Seeking had been perverted but the goal of it was to skirt USA prostitution laws. It is legal to give a gift after sex but not a wage. This was discovered by happenstance. I would text the girl say I was interested in meeting and then just forgot to talk price and yet many just showed up anyway. That does not work in the USA, girls only will meet if there are $ involved.

So yeah, do the carpet bombing thing. Send out short messages to as many as you like, Then when you have one respond, proceed to getting her WhatsApp number. You need to learn to use WhatsApp as everyone uses it. Some are using telegram now. I averaged 2 or 3 dates in Bogota and Medellin and as Don Carlos said was fucking so much my dick was going to fall off.

Other reason to use seeking is that you can get bareback. That is a problem with any of the working girls. I could not get the women to do it no matter how much I offered. I think I went bare with all but a few seeking women when I was there. Plan be is over the counter there, and I recommend you give the women that pill plan be when you are done. I never had any of them reject it.

At the time, I thought Colombian women were hotter than Mexicans and my goal was to fly them there and see them every week or two for a fuck fest. Thing is I had plenty of sex in Mexico and had no need to do it until I met a top of the line Colombian. Colombian women are valued by Mexicans because IMO you do not find many 10's in Mexico.

I know most guys are just going to use seeking to fuck. Thing is usually if you have the time it is wear better to dive deeper into a woman you like. Once you do that, you will find that Colombian women will not just suck your cock but worship it.

[Pussycat123]

Thanks for that info. This is really helpful. I went into SA and did an initial scan of those in Bogota. Many of them in fact look good. Of course, I will never know if any of them are catfish, but I would tend filter out those that look too good to be true, such as model photo shoots.

If I may ask, how do you typically operate within this platform? Do you initiate a chat with them directly and then bring up the services that they are willing to offer etc?

What is the typical response rate from the girls in those list? How far ahead do you usually initiate contact with them?This is how I use SA in Bog:

I have premium membership. At $100 per month its overpriced, but as I am working in the US it doesn't matter that much. You could try free membership first and see how it goes. I don't know what the differences are.

I set up my own profile with a few pics. I put a very brief intro in Spanish. I say my income etc are modest; if you claim to be a high roller you will just attract expensive girls. Not necesarily better, just more expensive.

You can put the letters "SD' if you want. It stands for "Sugar daddy", and its code for p4 p. Even in Spanish, they know what it means. The girls sometimes put "SB" (sugar baby) or just "Sugar" in their profile also. Sugar is just a euphemism for money.

You can lie about your age (e. G. Make it younger) as there is no age verification. You should do this when you set up your profile as you can't do it after.

A week or two before a trip I set my location to where I'm going, e. G. Bogota. Then search for whatever you want, e. G. Bogota, 50 mile radius, age 18-25, etc. Then search and just start "liking" gals you like (click the heart icon). You can also message them directly.

I usually go for average girls, girl next door types; less hassle and more willing to please than Instagram model type bitches. Remember, even the average girl in Bogota is hot compared to most western bitches.

If it is more than a few weeks away I wouldn't bother as they will lose interest. One week before is ideal.

Response rate for me was about 30% for the inital chat. Maybe 1 in ten you will actually meet.

Even though I barely speak Spanish I do all messaging in Spanish using google translate and copy and paste. You can also translate the girls mesages on your phone by touching the girls message and holding, it then lets you "select all" then "translate" to English right on the screen.

Once they reply then send a few mesages in chat such as "Hola". "Soy Pussycat", "Como Estas". (Hi, I'm pussycat, how are you).

Then just move it to WhatsApp (Which they all have) by saying "Tienes WhatsApp?

If they reply with their number just add a contact on WhatApp then start chatting there.

I usually come straight out on WhatsApp and say in Spanish " I would like to meet you for a date of two hours; if everthing is good we will make love, and I will pay you 200 mil plus Ubers". Nine times out of then they will either say "ok", or will say "make it 250 mil" etc.

As for the James Bond shit claimed by some, having "game", banging chicks for free yada yada yada. Sure, do that if you want but when time is of the essence on a short vacation just slap the money on the table and get laid. By the time you have banged one chick "for free" after having wined and dined her at expensive restaurants and hotels I will have paid for and banged five gals from the barrios. When I was 25 I was banging models for free. At 55, I just pay.

You can order an Uber / Didi to pick them up or you can reimburse them when they arrive.

I shift it to WhatApp because SA claims to ban users who "solicit pro**itution" which is of course bullshit because that's what SA is a platform for, but whatever, I wouldn't discuss trading money for sex directly on the app. Plus, gals always check messages on WhatsApp all the time whereas they might only go on SA every few days.

Another good reason to move it to WhatsApp is because if you get in a fight with a girl on the app they can report you and get you banned. If you are outside the app there is nothing they can do.

Generally any girls with English in her profile or claiming to speak English will charge more. And any girl quoting a price in dollars is trying to charge more.

Assuming you are in Bogota I wouldnt bother trying to meet anyone who isn't in Bogota. I sent $30 to one gal for a bus to Bogota and then she instantly starting begging for money so I didn't end up meeting her.

I would tell them they need an ID to meet you ("Cedula") to make sure they are 18 and that they are legit. For two reasons: pro**itution is illegal under 18 in Colombia and they are less likely to scam / rob you if you see there ID. You can even ask hem to send a picture of it if you want.

Hide / lock up all your shit when they come to you room. Don't take drugs / drink alcohol with them as they could drug and rob you. It never happended to me, but it has happened.

Almost all gals I contacted were willing to trade sex for money. This is what I got quoted or what I actually paid in Bogota (4,000 COP / USD):

Instagram model types: $150+/2 hrs (600,000 COP+).

Gals speaking English well: 400,000 COP /2 hrs.

Average girl: 200-250 k COP + Ubers (20-40 k COP).

Low end: 150 k COP /2-3 hrs.

I suggest an opening gambit of 200 k ("200 mil") plus Ubers for 2 hrs.

Typical session for me was BBBJ, CFS. Other stuff by negotiation.

A few actual gals I met on SA in Bogota:

A medical student.

An English teacher.

Several gals from the barrio (slums) in the south.

A gal claiming she had an online store.

A Venezulean claiming she was divorced from a Chinese guy and was visiting her sister in Bog.

A gal who delivered fire extinguishers.

Naysayers wil trash SA as a overpriced platform and maybe it is, but I think it has some merits. And I know, you can get a streetwalker for 30 K in SF but remember, that's a 15 minute quickie in a shitty short time room in a disgusting RLD, versus 2 hrs of GFE like experience in you own room. You can't equate the two.

No doubt many of the gals on SA could be found on other platforms / met in other ways, possibly for less money, and if you have the time and contacts to find them then go ahead. At the end of the day, it is just one of the options. If I lived in Bog I most likely would not use it. But for the average two week millionaire SA is not too bad.

[Diviant]

This is how I use SA in Bog:
I usually come straight out on WhatsApp and say in Spanish " I would like to meet you for a date of two hours; if everthing is good we will make love, and I will pay you 200 mil plus Ubers". Nine times out of then they will either say "ok", or will say "make it 250 mil" etc.I wanted to ask about the Uber, I use it when I travel, so sparsely. Do you order the ride on your phone or just reimburse. On the later, I would assume they try to say it was a long. Way.

[Ggekko2009]

This is how I use SA in Bog:

...

No doubt many of the gals on SA could be found on other platforms / met in other ways, possibly for less money, and if you have the time and contacts to find them then go ahead. At the end of the day, it is just one of the options. If I lived in Bog I most likely would not use it. But for the average two week millionaire SA is not too bad.I greatly appreciate all these info that you had provided. Thank you.

[Trim1]

How does it work when you want to extend sessions in Santa Fe? Do you give the girl more money and then she gets dressed, goes out to pay more money at the office, and then comes back? Or would it better to get dressed yourself, go to the office to pay for more time in the room, and then come back to pay the girl for another rato?

[Woodman09]

How does it work when you want to extend sessions in Santa Fe? Do you give the girl more money and then she gets dressed, goes out to pay more money at the office, and then comes back? Or would it better to get dressed yourself, go to the office to pay for more time in the room, and then come back to pay the girl for another rato?Usually the girl will go and pay-- If you already know her You can arrange it up front.

If you do not know her it is a good idea to do one and extend.

[Captain Solo]

Just tell the girl you want more time, give her more money and hotel money for extended time. She would call out to someone to come and take the money.

I find it much sexier when I am with the girl on a nice, clean bed. I took this girl tel, had her walk to my hotel for an hour for 100 M. She was skinny but nice, fun, camera loving. Had a big erection with her and could not wait to penetrate, lasted only half hour. A wingman took a girl on taxi to his condo. She stayed a couple hours for nonstop BB sex, all for 40 M. A lot of girls would walk out of the muddy calles to your hotel if you give them some extras.

Hotel Europa is 1 star hotel on Calle 23 next to Car 15 at the edge of Santa Fe, but rooms are fairly large, nice, clean, bright, clean sheets and towels, costs only 40 M a night plus 20 M to bring in girls, but you can negotiate with that guy.

[Pussycat123]

Thanks for that info. This is really helpful. I went into SA and did an initial scan of those in Bogota. Many of them in fact look good. Of course, I will never know if any of them are catfish, but I would tend filter out those that look too good to be true, such as model photo shoots.

If I may ask, how do you typically operate within this platform? Do you initiate a chat with them directly and then bring up the services that they are willing to offer etc?

What is the typical response rate from the girls in those list? How far ahead do you usually initiate contact with them?Forgot to mention, all the girls I met on SA looked exactly like their pics. Some even looked better in person. If you meet them outside your building and you don't like them, or their pics were heavily filtered, just pay them their Uber fare with maybe a little extra for goodwill and say goodbye. They arent gonna summon up the ghost of Pablo Escobar to come after you.

To me, Bogota runs like that song, "The Hills:

"Im just tryna get u out the friendzone.

Cause you look even better than the photos.

I just fucked two bitches 'fore I saw you.

You gon' have to do it at my tempo.

And I only fuck you when its half past five." Haha.

[Pussycat123]

I greatly appreciate all these info that you had provided. Thank you.No problem, that's what this board is for.

[Pussycat123]

I wanted to ask about the Uber, I use it when I travel, so sparsely. Do you order the ride on your phone or just reimburse. On the later, I would assume they try to say it was a long. Way.There are few ways of doing it:

First of all, there is one big advantage of arranging her transportation: you know where she is and when she will arrive, vs waiting around for her to show up.

Plus, girls are more likley to show up if you pay their transportation. Some of them are flat broke.

On Uber you can select "arrange a ride for someone else" or something, but it never seemed to work that well, so normally I just get the adress and put that as the pickup adress and your own adress as the destination, then just message the driver and say in Spanish "the passengers name is xxx and her number is xxx" so he can call her if he can't find her. I found that method worked well.

You can pay credit card or cash when they arrive. Didi drivers especially seemed to prefer cash.

Sometimes drivers cancell, which is a pain. One time I couldn't find an Uber for a gal so she just jumped in a cab and I met her on arrival and paid him cash.

Taxis / Ubers etc are dirt cheap in Bogota. A 45 minute ride might cost 30,000 COP, which is $8 USD. Its so cheap its not even worth thinking about. Its the price of a Bic Mac and fries where I live.

Yelow cabs are also a good option if you are on the streets. Just hail one and go. They seem like swarms of yellow locusts, they are everywhere in Bogota.

One girl arrived on the back of a motorcycle. Cheaper than a cab I guess.

The only problem I had was with Didi. A girl from down south got a Didi to meet me. The damn car broke down in the middle of a slum half way to my place. She was panicking and didn't have the money to get home and didn't have much data left on her phone. I could have been a dick and said is your problem, but I thought that would have been mean. So I said, ok send me your location and I will come and get you. Just as we were coordinating things the driver managed to start the car, and she made it to my place. Haha.

[Pussycat123]

While I'm in the mood let me just relay a little story from Bogota on New Years Eve, 2021.

I was in Bogota over the holidays, and I was having too much fun in Santa Fe, on Seeking and elsewhere.

Everything was running like clockwork. Ok, I did get robbed by a streetwalker in SF who stuck her sticky fingers into my pants pocket, but that was my own stupid fault for being careless.

So it was all fun and games, and then along came new years eve.

A girl from out of town was with me, and as it got to late afternoon the subject of what to do on new years eve came up.

I wasnt sure, so we asked the security guard at the lobby of the building. He assured us that there would be a huge party in Plaza Bolivar with fireworks and the whole nine yards. Well, that place was about 20 minute walk from my apartment so we thought tht being new years eve it would be hard to get a taxi, so we planned to walk down there.

So at about 11 pm we set off walking to the Plaza on Carrera 7 which is a pedestrianised street which is normally bustling but was now pretty quiet and all the stores were shuttered. In fact there were few people around but we guessed they would all be down near the Plaza. So we kept on walking.

After about ten or fifteen minutes as we got nearer to the Plaza the people got less and less. There were one or two cops and a few homeless and other low lifes hanging around in doorways. It was weird because we thought this is where crowds of people would streaming to the plaza. Anyway, we were committed now so we kept walking, but a bit faster now, and a bit more nervously.

Then we got to the Plaza. It is huge place, about the size of red Square in Moscow. And it was absolutely fucking deserted. There were two people in that square, and they were me and my gal.

Fuck, it must have been cancelled. For Covid, or lack of money, or who knows why. So now we were at least 20 minutes walk away from my apartment in downtown Bogota at midnight with nobody around.

But it turned out, there were people around. In fact there were several people, hanging around in shadows, in doorways, and they were looking right at us. One blond haired gringo and his gal in a place they had no business being. So we turned round and started walking back. Then my gal said two words to me:

"I'm scared".

So I said, no its fine, lets just walk back. But guess what I was thinking:

You arent the only one.

But of course a man with balls wouldn't show he was scared with his gal next to him. Right?

And the next thing I thought was:

This is going to be a fucking long walk.

I also thought I must the the dumbest fucker in Bogota.

Anyway, I rationalised, the worst that could happen is that we get robbed at knifepoint. Well maybe that's not the worst, but still.

So we kept walking, faster and faster. And those eyes kept looking.

Then she says:

" Lets get an Uber".

Get an Uber. At midnight on new years eve. In a deserted downtown. So we would probably have to wait forever for the Uber to show up. Which didn't seem like a great idea.

So we just kept walking straight down the middle of that deserted shithole street that is Carrera 7. And just then a rat scuttled across the street in front of us. And it seems he stopped for a moment as if to say what the FUCK are you doing here?

Just then we passed another couple who were standing nervously on a street corner. So maybe we werent the only people who grossly miscalculated. So we just kept walking.

Then just at that moment a cab drove by on a cross street. And we started running and waving and shouting at him like someone shipwrecked on desert island when a plane flys over. And guess what. He just kept going. Fuck. And just at that moment my gal looked like she was going to cry.

And then the Christmas miracle happened. The cab stopped a block away. And guess what. He started reversing. And he kept reversing, until he stopped right next to where we were standing. And we got in. And it just proves that praying doesn't work, because I haven't been to church for years.

Anyway, he started driving away immediately because it seemed even he didn't want to be in that fucking place. Then we gave him the adress of my place, but he seemed a little confused. It turned out the couple who were standing on the street corner had ordered this cab and he was supposed to pick them up. So we had basically stolen their cab. Not knowingly but stolen it nonetheless. But when the driver realised he said fuck it lets go. So we did.

So as we drove away I realised that in a few minutes I would be back home, safe, in my apartment with 24/7 security and Netflix. And with my gal in bed beside me.

And just when I thought we had dodged a bullet, my gal said to the driver:

"Do know any places we can go to celebrate?

And the driver said:

"Yeah, I know a place, its in the barrio".

So just at the moment when I thought we were going home safe this gal asks the driver to take us to the middle of the exact place where I had been told to NEVER set foot.

And is why, my friends, if women did not have a pussy, we would build a fortress with 50 foot walls and banish them to the outside to be eaten by wolves.

So I looked at her with a look that said, are you out of your fucking mind?

So we drove a while to some place in the middle of fucking nowhere. And it looked like the perfect place for the buddies of this cab driver to jump out and do whatever the fuck they do to dumb gringos who stumble into the wrong neighbourhood.

And it ended up that there was no fucking party, or gang of hoodlums. It was just as simple as the cab driver inflating his fare by driving round neighbourhoods letting his meter fare accumulate at the request of the dumb b**** sitting next to me.

So I said lets just go back to my place. Now.

And we did.

So we ended up in my apartment, just after midnight, without even a scratch. So maybe this cat only has 8 lives left, but hes still purring. The good news is, from my 22nd floor window I was able to look across at the barrio and see all the fireworks shooting into the sky. You could even hear the occasional rat-tat tat of automatic weapon fire mixed in with the boom-boom of the rockets. And for some reason my bed that night night felt so much more comfy than usual.

[Trim1]

Just tell the girl you want more time, give her more money and hotel money for extended time. She would call out to someone to come and take the money.

I find it much sexier when I am with the girl on a nice, clean bed. I took this girl tel, had her walk to my hotel for an hour for 100 M.Thanks!

I tried to send you a PM, but your mailbox is full.

[Mr Enternational]

I wasnt sure, so we asked the security guard at the lobby of the building. He assured us that there would be a huge party in Plaza Bolivar with fireworks and the whole nine yards.That is hilarious. Fireworks? New Years Eve is the quietest night of the year in Bogota. People are home with their families. Years ago you could find a club or 2 open in Zona Rosa to have a good time with friends, but those spots were torn down and stores like Nike built in their places. One night like 12 years ago I saw a lady walking really fast around the block rolling a suitcase behind her. She said it meant traveling into the new year. Maybe it is some superstitious thing to do that will get you to travel more in the upcoming year. But no, there is no grand anything there on New Years Eve. The place is as quiet as a mouse.

[Mr Enternational]

This is how I use SA in Bog:

I have premium membership. At $100 per month its overpriced, but as I am working in the US it doesn't matter that much.I have heard enough. You and Elvis have twisted my arm enough that I decided to make another profile on Seeking. I never paid for the site before but for some unknown reason got kicked off. Even when I tried signing up again with my normal email address it said email does not exist. So I used another address.

I only put 1 picture up and that was literally of the back of my head and 15 chicks have already shown interest. They want that money! In the title and description I put something in Spanish about meeting up. I will pay the $109 and start hitting them up maybe 3 days before I go to Colombia next month.

I did set my VPN to Brazil when I made the account and pulled up the cost. That had no bearing on how much it was.

[The Cane]

I have heard enough. You and Elvis have twisted my arm enough that I decided to make another profile on Seeking. I never paid for the site before but for some unknown reason got kicked off. Even when I tried signing up again with my normal email address it said email does not exist. So I used another address.

I only put 1 picture up and that was literally of the back of my head and 15 chicks have already shown interest. They want that money! In the title and description I put something in Spanish about meeting up. I will pay the $109 and start hitting them up maybe 3 days before I go to Colombia next month.

I did set my VPN to Brazil when I made the account and pulled up the cost. That had no bearing on how much it was.I started a new Seeking account and have been focusing here in the States. In less than a week, I already had my first meet and greet set up! Wrote about it in the Seeking Arrangements thread. I can only imagine what it would be like in Colombia or Brazil or some place like that. Lots of scammers and stuff, but plenty of "legit" too. I have women from all over Latin America and the rest of the world contacting me. I hide anybody not in my area. Can't deal with all of that!

[Ggekko2009]

I only put 1 picture up and that was literally of the back of my head and 15 chicks have already shown interest. They want that money! In the title and description I put something in Spanish about meeting up. I did something similar too and put up a profile picture. I am no Don Juan and out of shape, yet I am already hit by many good looking girls in their early 20's that have viewed and favorited me. Several of them even sent me chats and request to view my private photos. I did apply a promotional boost that SA gave me upon completion of the profile.

Anyway, it will be quite a while before I can make another trip there, so I would not pay for their premium service until a week or so before until I can make the trip again. In any case, I would not be able to respond to any of the girls at this time.

Also another unscientific analysis, I noticed that Colombian girls seem to be very active and has the most number of Sugar Babies listed. Just for fun, I entered the many cities in the different countries that I would usually visit, and here is my observation and value based on the number of good looking active and new listings in the search.

Colombia / Bogota: Good.

Colombia / Cartagena: Average.

Germany / Dusseldorf: Good (though they are more dispersed in different neighboring cities).

Germany / Frankfurt: Below average.

Netherland / Amsterdam: Good.

Indonesia / Jakarta: Poor.

Indonesia / Bali: Poor.

Thailand / Bangkok: Poor.

Philippines / Manila: Good.

Philippines / Angeles City: Good (Include spillover from Manila).

Singapore: Poor.

This makes interesting analytics in terms of the potential usage and popularity of the app in different countries.

[Elvis 2008]

I have heard enough. You and Elvis have twisted my arm enough that I decided to make another profile on Seeking. I never paid for the site before but for some unknown reason got kicked off. Even when I tried signing up again with my normal email address it said email does not exist. So I used another address.

I only put 1 picture up and that was literally of the back of my head and 15 chicks have already shown interest. They want that money!.LOL. It is not just me that got a GF off of seeking. I met two before mine that I would have characterize as GF like. Kazeu met his GF off of seeking when he was in Bogota, and DonCarlos was so bowled over by a hot lawyer that he almost got married before a fellow ISGer pulled him away.

Pull them off of seeking and onto whatsapp as soon as you can and when making a search, I would filter so the girls who have been on the site the shortest come up first. The ho types tend to have been the ones on the longest and those who speak English.

[Igor54]

LOL. It is not just me that got a GF off of seeking. I met two before mine that I would have characterize as GF like. Kazeu met his GF off of seeking when he was in Bogota, and DonCarlos was so bowled over by a hot lawyer that he almost got married before a fellow ISGer pulled him away.

Pull them off of seeking and onto whatsapp as soon as you can and when making a search, I would filter so the girls who have been on the site the shortest come up first. The ho types tend to have been the ones on the longest and those who speak English.I read your posts and a lot of it makes sense, but how do you how do you determine, who is a working girl and who is not? If this is the quality of sex, then a prostitute can do it much better than an ordinary woman.

[Jrealyo]

Funny, SA is a diamond for me. This is the same I do while in Bogota for 2 weeks.

The only difference is I skip the dinner part and just ask them to come over. Usually a 80% success rate.

Great report Pussycat.


This is how I use SA in Bog:

I have premium membership. At $100 per month its overpriced, but as I am working in the US it doesn't matter that much. You could try free membership first and see how it goes. I don't know what the differences are.

I set up my own profile with a few pics. I put a very brief intro in Spanish. I say my income etc are modest; if you claim to be a high roller you will just attract expensive girls. Not necesarily better, just more expensive.

You can put the letters "SD' if you want. It stands for "Sugar daddy", and its code for p4 p. Even in Spanish, they know what it means. The girls sometimes put "SB" (sugar baby) or just "Sugar" in their profile also. Sugar is just a euphemism for money.

You can lie about your age (e. G. Make it younger) as there is no age verification. You should do this when you set up your profile as you can't do it after.

A week or two before a trip I set my location to where I'm going, e. G. Bogota. Then search for whatever you want, e. G. Bogota, 50 mile radius, age 18-25, etc. Then search and just start "liking" gals you like (click the heart icon). You can also message them directly.

I usually go for average girls, girl next door types; less hassle and more willing to please than Instagram model type bitches. Remember, even the average girl in Bogota is hot compared to most western bitches.

If it is more than a few weeks away I wouldn't bother as they will lose interest. One week before is ideal.

Response rate for me was about 30% for the inital chat. Maybe 1 in ten you will actually meet.

Even though I barely speak Spanish I do all messaging in Spanish using google translate and copy and paste. You can also translate the girls mesages on your phone by touching the girls message and holding, it then lets you "select all" then "translate" to English right on the screen.

Once they reply then send a few mesages in chat such as "Hola". "Soy Pussycat", "Como Estas". (Hi, I'm pussycat, how are you).

Then just move it to WhatsApp (Which they all have) by saying "Tienes WhatsApp?

If they reply with their number just add a contact on WhatApp then start chatting there.

I usually come straight out on WhatsApp and say in Spanish " I would like to meet you for a date of two hours; if everthing is good we will make love, and I will pay you 200 mil plus Ubers". Nine times out of then they will either say "ok", or will say "make it 250 mil" etc.

As for the James Bond shit claimed by some, having "game", banging chicks for free yada yada yada. Sure, do that if you want but when time is of the essence on a short vacation just slap the money on the table and get laid. By the time you have banged one chick "for free" after having wined and dined her at expensive restaurants and hotels I will have paid for and banged five gals from the barrios. When I was 25 I was banging models for free. At 55, I just pay.

You can order an Uber / Didi to pick them up or you can reimburse them when they arrive.

I shift it to WhatApp because SA claims to ban users who "solicit pro**itution" which is of course bullshit because that's what SA is a platform for, but whatever, I wouldn't discuss trading money for sex directly on the app. Plus, gals always check messages on WhatsApp all the time whereas they might only go on SA every few days.

Another good reason to move it to WhatsApp is because if you get in a fight with a girl on the app they can report you and get you banned. If you are outside the app there is nothing they can do.

Generally any girls with English in her profile or claiming to speak English will charge more. And any girl quoting a price in dollars is trying to charge more.

Assuming you are in Bogota I wouldnt bother trying to meet anyone who isn't in Bogota. I sent $30 to one gal for a bus to Bogota and then she instantly starting begging for money so I didn't end up meeting her.

I would tell them they need an ID to meet you ("Cedula") to make sure they are 18 and that they are legit. For two reasons: pro**itution is illegal under 18 in Colombia and they are less likely to scam / rob you if you see there ID. You can even ask hem to send a picture of it if you want.

Hide / lock up all your shit when they come to you room. Don't take drugs / drink alcohol with them as they could drug and rob you. It never happended to me, but it has happened.

Almost all gals I contacted were willing to trade sex for money. This is what I got quoted or what I actually paid in Bogota (4,000 COP / USD):

Instagram model types: $150+/2 hrs (600,000 COP+).

Gals speaking English well: 400,000 COP /2 hrs.

Average girl: 200-250 k COP + Ubers (20-40 k COP).

Low end: 150 k COP /2-3 hrs.

I suggest an opening gambit of 200 k ("200 mil") plus Ubers for 2 hrs.

Typical session for me was BBBJ, CFS. Other stuff by negotiation.

A few actual gals I met on SA in Bogota:

A medical student.

An English teacher.

Several gals from the barrio (slums) in the south.

A gal claiming she had an online store.

A Venezulean claiming she was divorced from a Chinese guy and was visiting her sister in Bog.

A gal who delivered fire extinguishers.

Naysayers wil trash SA as a overpriced platform and maybe it is, but I think it has some merits. And I know, you can get a streetwalker for 30 K in SF but remember, that's a 15 minute quickie in a shitty short time room in a disgusting RLD, versus 2 hrs of GFE like experience in you own room. You can't equate the two.

No doubt many of the gals on SA could be found on other platforms / met in other ways, possibly for less money, and if you have the time and contacts to find them then go ahead. At the end of the day, it is just one of the options. If I lived in Bog I most likely would not use it. But for the average two week millionaire SA is not too bad.

[NeilGeorge]

Funny, SA is a diamond for me. This is the same I do while in Bogota for 2 weeks.

The only difference is I skip the dinner part and just ask them to come over. Usually a 80% success rate.

Great report Pussycat.Dangerous, asking them to come over. You can get alot of fatties with thin photos, smellies, and others you would disqualify if you first met them.

[EverythingBlue]

Of course it is all about the money if you are making that way. You sit there and talk down on someone telling them how poor they are and that you will give them money. That sounds like some uppity superiority stuff to me. Being an alpha male is not telling someone you have arrived to pay all of their bills and fix all of their problems. Being an alpha male is teaching them ways not to get into problems and showing them ways of solving problems themselves.

I had a friend in Brazil that went to an interview to get a USA visa. She told the officer how she was going to be staying with this guy and he would take care of everything. She was then asked what if something happens to that person? Visa DENIED! So if something happens to the alpha male that you describe they are right back to square one.

I approach people in a normal conversation. I would never tell someone I am here to pay their bills and fix their problems. Maybe that is why I do not get chicks where it is all about the money. If I am talking about money to a chick then you can believe 100% that she is a hooker.

Total opposite from me. I tell them I am going to give them a baby knowing full well that I can't have kids.I enjoy reading your conversations with the girls LOL. Seems like you understand what makes Latinas function well. I agree with being sympathetic to their cause, and helping them build their dreams, to help build rapport. You treat them like girlfriends, and they treat you like a boyfriend, the sex is just part of the relationship. Funny thing though, this girl is saying that she'll be there for you, as long as you say the truth, so don't let her find ISG LOL.

[Elvis 2008]

I read your posts and a lot of it makes sense, but how do you how do you determine, who is a working girl and who is not? If this is the quality of sex, then a prostitute can do it much better than an ordinary woman.Igor I do not recall anyone on this forum using seeking before I did in mid 2019. I would send a woman a message. We would go on WhatsApp and arrange a meeting. Early on, I cannot remember mentioning price with anyone. We would meet and some of the time just go right to bed. Other times, the women would meet and want a price. Sometimes I would tell them no. If the price was reasonable, and I was attracted to them then I would fuck them but in my mind they were a WG. The best sex seemed to always be with the women who never mentioned a price though.

I have been doing the sugar daddy thing for over 10 years now. The goal is to make women take some form of payment for sex but not feel they are hos. You want them to feel as if you are giving a gift versus paying a wage.

As far as how to tell they are hos, they have been on the website for a long time, ask for money up front, ask that you get them an uber or taxi, show their cedula without being asked when at the hotel, bring their own condoms, live in the worst parts of town, and you can say they go about having sex in a ritual or job like way with a limited amount of passion and run for the door when done.

On average, the working women perform better than seeking women but the top women from seeking beat the top working women because of the passion they bring. And the top seeking women have unsurpassed beauty. I have met three beauty queens off the site, two from Colombia and one from Venezuela.

And if you want a gal like I have, you have to let go of these bullshit preconceived notions like the women want the young Colombian studs. Some do, but there are others on seeking who do not. Hell, they will say they want guys age 30 to 60 in their profile. I am late 50's, overweight, and have a young 30 something woman my friends have called a 10. She has modeled for decades and insists on being fucked 3 X a day, and when I lasted visited her, ran to me in the airport with a balloon and cake in hand. And she is the third Colombian GF I have met from the site and my 4th from South America. I have never met and found a GF or what I consider a sugar baby off of seeking that mentioned a price before we met.

I am only seeing my current gal now, but I have had sugar babies from the USA, Mexico and Colombia. In fact over the holidays four of them reached out to me and asked how things were going with me and my woman, and I know why. They wanted me taking them out again. When I said things were fine, they lied and said they were happy for me. I know they had a ball when we were together and miss the life I showed them.

That said, it is not easy. You will get stood up. You will have your time wasted, let down a rabbit hole. You may get hurt and financially taken advantage of when a ho pretends to be a sugar baby but all she cares about is money. They will fool you with their addictions and mental illness. Many of the hottest women have boyfriends and will lie about being single. My current gal hid that she had a daughter from me. This all women are hos crap is to prevent guys from being hurt but it is completely illogical. There are women out there, a distinct minority for sure, who can be trusted, and those are the ones I want to invest my time and money on. You just have to kiss a lot of frogs before you meet your princess.

[DonCarlos1234]

I started a new Seeking account and have been focusing here in the States. In less than a week, I already had my first meet and greet set up! Wrote about it in the Seeking Arrangements thread. I can only imagine what it would be like in Colombia or Brazil or some place like that. Lots of scammers and stuff, but plenty of "legit" too. I have women from all over Latin America and the rest of the world contacting me. I hide anybody not in my area. Can't deal with all of that!Why would anyone want every ho in Latin America be able to contact / bother him A SD flies above the crowd and take what he wants. LOL I spend way too many hours a day talking with hot, available girls, no time for the barrio chicks. Unless I am in Bogota. LOL YMMV but at lease change the size of the net your using.

[Igor54]

This is how I use SA in Bog:

I have premium membership. At $100 per month its overpriced, but as I am working in the US it doesn't matter that much. You could try free membership first and see how it goes. I don't know what the differences are.

I set up my own profile with a few pics. I put a very brief intro in Spanish. I say my income etc are modest; if you claim to be a high roller you will just attract expensive girls. Not necesarily better, just more expensive.

You can put the letters "SD' if you want. It stands for "Sugar daddy", and its code for p4 p. Even in Spanish, they know what it means. The girls sometimes put "SB" (sugar baby) or just "Sugar" in their profile also. Sugar is just a euphemism for money.

You can lie about your age (e. G. Make it younger) as there is no age verification. You should do this when you set up your profile as you can't do it after..Thank you for the info. Does anyone know other platforms / workflow?

[Jrealyo]

Has never happened in over 5 yrs, but knock on wood.


Dangerous, asking them to come over. You can get alot of fatties with thin photos, smellies, and others you would disqualify if you first met them.

[NeilGeorge]

https://www.colture.co/bogota/tips/to-live/strata-system-in-colombia/

[GoldMembr]

Hi Elvis, thanks for your thoughtful insight, it make a lot of sense. I've possibly a dumb question. If you don't talk price beforehand in Colombia then what's to keep the girl from going after, "Oh, you owe me 2 million pesos, if you don't pay I'm going to the police. " This exact thing happened ten years ago in Cartagena and some guys got in lots of trouble.


Early on, I cannot remember mentioning price with anyone. We would meet and some of the time just go right to bed. Other times, the women would meet and want a price. Sometimes I would tell them no. If the price was reasonable, and I was attracted to them then I would fuck them but in my mind they were a WG. The best sex seemed to always be with the women who never mentioned a price though.

[Pussycat123]

Catfishing in my understanding means someone uses a fake profile for the purpose of scamming.

I have never experienced this in Bogota, every girl I met seemed legit and in most cases looked at least as good as the photos.

I did find an apparent catfish in Mexico however. I started chatting with a hot Chinese gal in Guadalara . First of all, wtf is a hot Chinese gal doing on SA in GDL. Then guess what, she suddently started talking about investing in crypto currency. She wanted me to wire $500k to her fathers crypto outfit in Singapore so she can "Invest" it. It was a once in a lifetime, ground floor opportunity...lucky me?

Basic rule: if something seems to good to be true, or seems "Fishy" (LOL), it probably is.

[Mr Enternational]

I did find an apparent catfish in Mexico however. I started chatting with a hot Chinese gal in Guadalara . First of all, wtf is a hot Chinese gal doing on SA in GDL. Then guess what, she suddently started talking about investing in crypto currency. She wanted me to wire $500k to her fathers crypto outfit in Singapore so she can "Invest" it. It was a once in a lifetime, ground floor opportunity...lucky me?LOL. How did you get that far? I always get random whatsapp messages with pictures of Chinese chicks. They try to act like they are looking for someone else. I try to pry and pry, but I have never had one to finally come out and ask me to send money.

[BigButtDetecto]

Igor I do not recall anyone on this forum using seeking before I did in mid 2019. I would send a woman a message. We would go on WhatsApp and arrange a meeting. Early on, I cannot remember mentioning price with anyone. We would meet and some of the time just go right to bed. Other times, the women would meet and want a price. Sometimes I would tell them no. If the price was reasonable, and I was attracted to them then I would fuck them but in my mind they were a WG. The best sex seemed to always be with the women who never mentioned a price though.

I have been doing the sugar daddy thing for over 10 years now. The goal is to make women take some form of payment for sex but not feel they are hos. You want them to feel as if you are giving a gift versus paying a wage.

As far as how to tell they are hos, they have been on the website for a long time, ask for money up front, ask that you get them an uber or taxi, show their cedula without being asked when at the hotel, bring their own condoms, live in the worst parts of town, and you can say they go about having sex in a ritual or job like way with a limited amount of passion and run for the door when done.

On average, the working women perform better than seeking women but the top women from seeking beat the top working women because of the passion they bring. And the top seeking women have unsurpassed beauty. I have met three beauty queens off the site, two from Colombia and one from Venezuela.

And if you want a gal like I have, you have to let go of these bullshit preconceived notions like the women want the young Colombian studs. Some do, but there are others on seeking who do not. Hell, they will say they want guys age 30 to 60 in their profile. I am late 50's, overweight, and have a young 30 something woman my friends have called a 10. She has modeled for decades and insists on being fucked 3 X a day, and when I lasted visited her, ran to me in the airport with a balloon and cake in hand. And she is the third Colombian GF I have met from the site and my 4th from South America. I have never met and found a GF or what I consider a sugar baby off of seeking that mentioned a price before we met.

I am only seeing my current gal now, but I have had sugar babies from the USA, Mexico and Colombia. In fact over the holidays four of them reached out to me and asked how things were going with me and my woman, and I know why. They wanted me taking them out again. When I said things were fine, they lied and said they were happy for me. I know they had a ball when we were together and miss the life I showed them.

That said, it is not easy. You will get stood up. You will have your time wasted, let down a rabbit hole. You may get hurt and financially taken advantage of when a ho pretends to be a sugar baby but all she cares about is money. They will fool you with their addictions and mental illness. Many of the hottest women have boyfriends and will lie about being single. My current gal hid that she had a daughter from me. This all women are hos crap is to prevent guys from being hurt but it is completely illogical. There are women out there, a distinct minority for sure, who can be trusted, and those are the ones I want to invest my time and money on. You just have to kiss a lot of frogs before you meet your princess.Why pay for a ambiguous dating website when you can have a straight service from milleroticos or mundosexoannuncios for free?

[Mr Enternational]

Why pay for a ambiguous dating website when you can have a straight service from milleroticos or mundosexoannuncios for free?Because some people are looking for personable company and not just the straight-up fucking.

[Guerinto]

These catfish types are all over every dating site I know. I now ignore any Asian ads that mention crypto. Another oddity is the amount of Chinese women with Spanish text in their profile. Small sample size so far, but those also appear to be scammers.

Unless it is close to where I physically reside at the time, I will not travel more than 30 minutes to meet anyone I have not seen on a real time video call. Just too much BS out there.


Catfishing in my understanding means someone uses a fake profile for the purpose of scamming.

I have never experienced this in Bogota, every girl I met seemed legit and in most cases looked at least as good as the photos.

I did find an apparent catfish in Mexico however. I started chatting with a hot Chinese gal in Guadalara . First of all, wtf is a hot Chinese gal doing on SA in GDL. Then guess what, she suddently started talking about investing in crypto currency. She wanted me to wire $500k to her fathers crypto outfit in Singapore so she can "Invest" it. It was a once in a lifetime, ground floor opportunity...lucky me?

Basic rule: if something seems to good to be true, or seems "Fishy" (LOL), it probably is.

[Elvis 2008]

Hi Elvis, thanks for your thoughtful insight, it make a lot of sense. I've possibly a dumb question. If you don't talk price beforehand in Colombia then what's to keep the girl from going after, "Oh, you owe me 2 million pesos, if you don't pay I'm going to the police. " This exact thing happened ten years ago in Cartagena and some guys got in lots of trouble.I know that is what was reported in the media, but that is not what happened.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2013/03/25/secret-service-prostitution-scandal-one-year-later/

"Suarez claims, she stopped to buy condoms and told Huntington that if they were going to spend the night together, he'the have to give her "a gift" afterward. She says that when she named her price $800 Huntington didn't flinch. They continued on to the hotel.

Suarez would later claim that, had she been so inclined, she could have rifled through his belongings and obtained information of presumably vital national security. She speculatednot unreasonablythat this could have provided fodder for blackmail or that it might have been of interest to terrorists or organized criminals wanting to penetrate President Obama's security.

At 6:30 the next morningThursday, April 12 the front-desk clerk called Huntington's room and said it was time for his guest to leave. Suarez asked for her payment. "I tell him, 'Baby, my cash money,' " she later told the New York Times.

What happened next is a matter of dispute. Huntington's version, according to sources familiar with his claims, is that he never knew Suarez was a prostitute and he told her to leave when she asked for money. Suarezwho later wrote a book about her night with the agentclaimed there was no misunderstanding and that she had clearly set her price before she went to the hotel.

Suarez banged on the door of Bongino's room, across the hall, where her friendwho didn't ask to be paidhad spent the night. Suarez demanded that Bongino come up with the money to pay her. Suarez said that she threatened to call the police and that Bongino pleaded with her not to. He eventually went from room to room, asking his Secret Service brothers for "scoots," the term they use for local currency, or any US dollars they could spare. Bongino came up with $250 in mixed currency and gave it to Suarez.

During the commotion, a Colombian police officer, apparently stationed on the hotel floor, inquired about the argument and told Bongino he should pay Suarez. There are conflicting accounts about whether the police officer was advocating for Suarez or merely suggesting to Bongino that he give her the money to keep her quiet. But once she had the moneyabout a third of what she claimed she was owedSuarez left the hotel with her friend and got into a cab. They never reported the incident.

The manager of the Hotel Caribe, according to firsthand accounts, was incensed by a list of complaints about his boorish American guests. These didn't have to do with prostitutionwhich the hotel is accustomed to managingbut with loud partying at the swimming pool, broken glasses, and reports of dog feces littering public areas of the hotel and dog hair in beds.

My take on this is you had a ho who saw that she was not supposed to be in this guy Huntington's room and thought she could shake him down. The notion the police were on her side is not likely IMO. The police certainly were not going to support her getting $800 for a night. That is like 2 months salary in Colombia. The fact that Bongino's gal did not ask to get paid is a strong indicator that this guy Hunington's comment about giving her gift were true and also he knew how to use the lingo that he was giving her a gift and not paying her wage. Outside of letting her in his room, he really did nothing wrong.

You never say never but understand I was dealing with students, a woman who sold merchandise, an engineer, government worker. I thought that because prostitution was legal in Colombia that the stigma of being a ho was not as bad as here in the USA. I was wrong; it is worse. So any woman who says my price is not met would be stigmatized as being a ho. It really never came up in Colombia.

I was also at a Marriott hotel where I have elite type status. I had been in the hotel multiple times before with other women and had no incidents. I made sure to tip the front office people and the bellhop and called them by name so if there was an issue, it would be the nice gentleman who is a good customer with elite status versus a 2 bit ho. Most of the better hotels check the women in, check their cedula, and then make sure and call after to make sure there were no incidents.

Don't think just because you are in a foreign country everyone is going to take the ho's side. That is just not true.

[Ggekko2009]

You never say never but understand I was dealing with students, a woman who sold merchandise, an engineer, government worker. I thought that because prostitution was legal in Colombia that the stigma of being a ho was not as bad as here in the USA. I was wrong; it is worse. So any woman who says my price is not met would be stigmatized as being a ho. It really never came up in Colombia.
Frankly speaking, this is a new territory for me. I find it easier for me if things are transparent and transactional. That way, I can establish boundaries and establish certain levels of expectation, and I would know if things would work or not early on.

The Colombian girl who flew into Bogota and spent time with me there in my last trip, even though I have treated her as a friend and her feeling towards me is mutual, I established the compensation of her time upfront before I agree to have her get onto the plane to see me. She has to take time off from work after all. Of course, I also mentioned that I would cover her travel expenses. I would say that she trusted me since she would pay for the plane tickets and all these transportations up front, and never mention even once about the payment after we met. It's funny how at one time, she would even offer to pay for the Mileroticos girl that we had ordered together. In a way, I made her feel like I am paying for her professional services like a consultant jejeje.

Having said that, I am still trying to learn more about navigating around scenarios where things may not be as transparent. Perhaps I can use the direct approach that Pussycat has used about making clear the amount that I would pay upfront. However, for scenario where I simply want a date to dine in a restaurant or go clubbing, with no mention of any gift or transaction and maybe ended up having sex after that. The next morning could make for an awkward situation. If the girls turned out to be civilians with a regular job, will they be offended if I hand them the money? If so, how would I know if the amount given is insufficient in her view that it offends her? What if she demanded a certain amount in which I deem unreasonable? I am visualizing all the potential drama and the headache. The truth is that I am actually a noobie on this front.

[Pussycat123]

Dangerous, asking them to come over. You can get alot of fatties with thin photos, smellies, and others you would disqualify if you first met them.Given that I tend to have limited time on my vacations I just don't have time for meet and greets.

All I can say is that out of about 30 gals I have met on SA in Guadalajara, Cabo and Bogota only of them of them didn't appeal to me. So we had coffee, chatted, then she left with a small tip.

[Pussycat123]

LOL. How did you get that far? I always get random whatsapp messages with pictures of Chinese chicks. They try to act like they are looking for someone else. I try to pry and pry, but I have never had one to finally come out and ask me to send money.I just wanted to learn more about her scam, I never met her in person.

[LatinaLover#1]

I know that is what was reported in the media, but that is not what happened.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2013/03/25/secret-service-prostitution-scandal-one-year-later/

"Suarez claims, she stopped to buy condoms and told Huntington that if they were going to spend the night together, he'the have to give her "a gift" afterward. She says that when she named her price $800 Huntington didn't flinch. They continued on to the hotel.

Suarez would later claim that, had she been so inclined, she could have rifled through his belongings and obtained information of presumably vital national security. She speculatednot unreasonablythat this could have provided fodder for blackmail or that it might have been of interest to terrorists or organized criminals wanting to penetrate President Obama's security.

At 6:30 the next morningThursday, April 12 the front-desk clerk called Huntington's room and said it was time for his guest to leave. Suarez asked for her payment. "I tell him, 'Baby, my cash money,' " she later told the New York Times.

What happened next is a matter of dispute. Huntington's version, according to sources familiar with his claims, is that he never knew Suarez was a prostitute and he told her to leave when she asked for money. Suarezwho later wrote a book about her night with the agentclaimed there was no misunderstanding and that she had clearly set her price before she went to the hotel.

Suarez banged on the door of Bongino's room, across the hall, where her friendwho didn't ask to be paidhad spent the night. Suarez demanded that Bongino come up with the money to pay her. Suarez said that she threatened to call the police and that Bongino pleaded with her not to. He eventually went from room to room, asking his Secret Service brothers for "scoots," the term they use for local currency, or any US dollars they could spare. Bongino came up with $250 in mixed currency and gave it to Suarez.

During the commotion, a Colombian police officer, apparently stationed on the hotel floor, inquired about the argument and told Bongino he should pay Suarez. There are conflicting accounts about whether the police officer was advocating for Suarez or merely suggesting to Bongino that he give her the money to keep her quiet. But once she had the moneyabout a third of what she claimed she was owedSuarez left the hotel with her friend and got into a cab. They never reported the incident.

The manager of the Hotel Caribe, according to firsthand accounts, was incensed by a list of complaints about his boorish American guests. These didn't have to do with prostitutionwhich the hotel is accustomed to managingbut with loud partying at the swimming pool, broken glasses, and reports of dog feces littering public areas of the hotel and dog hair in beds.

My take on this is you had a ho who saw that she was not supposed to be in this guy Huntington's room and thought she could shake him down. The notion the police were on her side is not likely IMO. The police certainly were not going to support her getting $800 for a night. That is like 2 months salary in Colombia. The fact that Bongino's gal did not ask to get paid is a strong indicator that this guy Hunington's comment about giving her gift were true and also he knew how to use the lingo that he was giving her a gift and not paying her wage. Outside of letting her in his room, he really did nothing wrong.

You never say never but understand I was dealing with students, a woman who sold merchandise, an engineer, government worker. I thought that because prostitution was legal in Colombia that the stigma of being a ho was not as bad as here in the USA. I was wrong; it is worse. So any woman who says my price is not met would be stigmatized as being a ho. It really never came up in Colombia.

I was also at a Marriott hotel where I have elite type status. I had been in the hotel multiple times before with other women and had no incidents. I made sure to tip the front office people and the bellhop and called them by name so if there was an issue, it would be the nice gentleman who is a good customer with elite status versus a 2 bit ho. Most of the better hotels check the women in, check their cedula, and then make sure and call after to make sure there were no incidents.

Don't think just because you are in a foreign country everyone is going to take the ho's side. That is just not true.How these SS agents could get mixed up with such an ugly dog face is beyond me. They deserve to get jammed up for the sole reason of letting this pig into their room.

[Pussycat123]

I was reading the saga about Dania Suarez and the SS agents below. It essentially seems to be a disagreement about payment and services rendered. And in my understanding most of these SS agents ruined their careers (And marriages if they had them) because of a row about a few hundred dollars. Thye also messed up r&r for thousands of their co workers because they are now all under a microscope. As I stated before, it is my view that it is better to agree prices and services up front, ideally in writing (I. E. WhatsApp) to prevent this. I know others dissagree, but doesn't this saga support my viewpoint? Agreeing in writing also protect against false allegations.

[Mr Enternational]

Agreeing in writing also protect against false allegations.If you think that then it is obvious that you have never been to Sosua.

[Lopiu]

Hello,

I want to visit Bobota soon. I read a lot of your reports, thanks for them!

I will probably try Seeking Arrangements. My question: how high is the percentage of skinny girls there, who can speak English? From your experience?

Thank you very much!

[Elvis 2008]

It's funny how at one time, she would even offer to pay for the Mileroticos girl that we had ordered together. In a way, I made her feel like I am paying for her professional services like a consultant jejeje.You understand when she does that she is telling you she wants to date you and does not want money from you right? She wants money spent on her like a GF would. I took 2 girls, a GF and her cousin, to the free breakfast at the Marriott Courtyard, and they thought it was the finest dining they had ever been to. Your gal probably lives in a boring town in a room the size of your closet.


However, for scenario where I simply want a date to dine in a restaurant or go clubbing, with no mention of any gift or transaction and maybe ended up having sex after that. The next morning could make for an awkward situation. If the girls turned out to be civilians with a regular job, will they be offended if I hand them the money? If so, how would I know if the amount given is insufficient in her view that it offends her? What if she demanded a certain amount in which I deem unreasonable? I am visualizing all the potential drama and the headache. The truth is that I am actually a noobie on this front.You keep thinking like a john where you have to pay. It is only awkward because you have been a john so much in the past. Ask her out again and she what she says. If she says yes, I would not pay her anything and schedule a nice date with her.

If you want to give her something (and you should be able to tell if a chick is a WG after all I listed before), focus on her needs like a BF would "You said your grandmother had arthritis. How much does medicine for that cost here? I do not want her to be in such pain". Or you can slip money in her pocket and tell her you left her a gift.

If the gal is a ho type, she will let you know if you need to pay her. And if there is a conflict, pay what you think is right or stand up to her if you think it is excessive. You guys are so used to being pussy whipped in the USA.

[Parks292]

Been living in Bogota for nearly 4 months now, with trips to Brazil and Mexico here and there. Must have met over 40 ISG members and shown the city to many, people from all ages and walks of life. Several of whom have become friends, and I have to admit I feel indebted towards the forum because of that. Though business was not my intention when first arriving, through serendipity, ended up at advanced negotiations with a Colombian conglomerate. My stay has been more than P2 P, over the months I've experienced a lot of what the city has to offer. Add to that the connections I've built with locals, expats, diplomats, being fluent in Spanish. And I almost feel at home, quite frankly.

A few points:

-Santa Fe. The good: There is always some talent, and it's really cheap. The bad: you get what you pay for. The vast majority of SF's population isn't actually working girls, but young Venezuelan refugee guys who are just roaming the streets and hanging out. Wouldn't consider it dangerous but I wouldn't be naive to call it safe. Fortunately, this board allows you to find other members to go with, which makes the whole experience much better.

SF just isn't for everyone. Rooms are filthy and depending on your level of cleanliness this might or might not be an issue. Then again, what can you expect at this price? If you're on a tight budget, SF is the way to go. If you're not, there are better options for a better experience. I enjoy my comfort and rather spend more for more. Aside from the initial novelty factor, the longer I've been in Bogota, the less I've went. That being said I suggest you visit it and see it. I still enjoy SF in 2 ways: to party every once in a while in one of the bars, more for the stripclub and party environment than for getting laid. And to check for new talent, test drive it and if it's good, meet them outside (sadly this isn't always possible as many girls in SF don't have an ID and a cellphone). To better my experience, I've made good contacts in SF from bar owners, managers, waiters, security and obviously girls. Suggest you do the same. This definitely enhances the experience when you're treated well and know your way around.

-SA. Been one of my favorite playgrounds for years, having met hundreds of girls, strictly in America. First time experiencing it here and overall I would say SA in Colombia is not bad but has less quantity and less quality than other cities in America that have yielded better results for me. I also found the percentage of hardcore pros to be substantially higher on SA in Colombia than in America.

-Other P2P options: Eroticas Bogota is good for escorts. For a different experience, there's an upscale massage place called Nanxing Spa. Wasn't impressed by Lido as talent was similar to SF. Hard to believe that in a country like Colombia, there isn't a place anywhere near the level of experience you can get in Hong-Kong / Cascadas in Tijuana!

-Non P2 P: as far as I'm concerned, this is where Bogota shines. Keeping it short because this is a P2 P forum. Tinder: Better than in America. Just like in most developing countries, girls are generally bored and want to meet. Bars / clubs: Girls are usually approachable and you will be surprised at how many girls speak English and are well-travelled. Steadily been going out to Zona T where I have my favorite spots. I was pleasantly surprised at how receptive and willing to meet most girls are.

Can't say there is one place to meet the best girls in town. Rather what I've done is entertain all options and pick the top 5% from each of them: SF and the best 3-4 Fiebre / Troya girls, SA and the non-P2 P options. That is how I've built a rotation with top talent.

Restaurants: food is actually much better than expected in Bogota! Though obviously not at the level of Brazil or Mexico. Suggest the following places: LEO for a romantic dinner, Osk Peru for a Miami vibe in a hot spot, Agave Azul for a speakeasy setup. Other places with good food and ambiance: La Cabrera, El Chato, Castanyoles.

Bogota doesn't do anything extremely well, but rather does many things quite well. It is not a city of extremes, like its cousin Sao Paulo. Colombia, Brazil and Mexico each have their pros and cons and there's no perfect place. I like all 3.

[Mr Enternational]

If you want to give her something (and you should be able to tell if a chick is a WG after all I listed before), focus on her needs like a BF would "You said your grandmother had arthritis. How much does medicine for that cost here? I do not want her to be in such pain". Or you can slip money in her pocket and tell her you left her a gift.Everybody is not into that act like I am not a hooker and find other reasons to give me money thing. My Venezuelan girl in Peru makes $8 per day. I gave her $25 to get back and forth because she was coming to see me after work everyday. She got angry and said it felt like I was paying her and gave the money back. You want to be careful not to insult someone like that.

[Voodoo Jones]

Non P2 P: as far as I'm concerned, this is where Bogota shines. Keeping it short because this is a P2 P forum. Tinder: Better than in America. Just like in most developing countries, girls are generally bored and want to meet. Bars / clubs: Girls are usually approachable and you will be surprised at how many girls speak English and are well-travelled. Steadily been going out to Zona T where I have my favorite spots. I was pleasantly surprised at how receptive and willing to meet most girls are.I'll be in Bogota for only 5 days, would you recommend Tinder or SA for non-working girls? I would prefer to have things lined up before I arrive there, but Tinder seems like it would be better used once I'm there instead of ahead of time.

Thanks for all info.

[Gabbarsing]

Been living in Bogota for nearly 4 months now, with trips to Brazil and Mexico here and there. Must have met over 40 ISG members and shown the city to many, people from all ages and walks of life. Several of whom have become friends, and I have to admit I feel indebted towards the forum because of that. Though business was not my intention when first arriving, through serendipity, ended up at advanced negotiations with a Colombian conglomerate. My stay has been more than P2 P, over the months I've experienced a lot of what the city has to offer. Add to that the connections I've built with locals, expats, diplomats, being fluent in Spanish. And I almost feel at home, quite frankly.

A few points:

-Santa Fe. The good: There is always some talent, and it's really cheap. The bad: you get what you pay for. The vast majority of SF's population isn't actually working girls, but young Venezuelan refugee guys who are just roaming the streets and hanging out. Wouldn't consider it dangerous but I wouldn't be naive to call it safe. Fortunately, this board allows you to find other members to go with, which makes the whole experience much better..Thank you so much for detailed insights. I have 2 questions for you brother. Appreciate a lot if I can get your experience and expertise to my confusion.

Which place amongst Brazil, Colombia and Mexico. Would you prefer easy for young light skin hotties? (BTW I am looking for BBFS option so consider that into your answer).

And once you provide the Country. Which city would you recommend?

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[Triple Darknes]

My friend, you need to travel some more, and experience more women. Your assessment could not be further from the reality.Nah he's one of those white dudes that went to Africa or South East Asia first. If you go to any Africa subforum especially the east African forums and guys will rave about Madegascar.

There are people who literally stave to death there. I've been told by long term visitors that there's no tourist infrastructure to speak of, 10 will buy you almost any girl of your choice all night in places like Nosy Be. The problem is that it's in Nosy be. You add that to places where the only white man they see is an aged sex tourist or some aid worker or missionary and a lot of women see white guy and life savior as the same.

I love Africa Kenya especially but I prefer a middle ground between a super entitled western feminazi and a illiterate desperate village girl who won't let you out of her sight for a second to keep you away from another girl.

What some of the white hunters in Africa don't tell you is because they are convinced that a 18 year super model look-a- like loves their flabby 80 year old bodies they fall in love with them too and start building houses and stuff for them in these little villages. I'm not looking for some desperate street urchin to validate me, I just want the pussy and maybe a nice cup of coffee. I want to to treat me like she is my girlfriend in bed, I don't care about what she thinks of me in the morning.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[Pokeris]

Staying at Bogota from end of December as already get bored to move all over Colombia in less than 7 weeks visited 14 different cities. Going to Santa Fe almost every day and not so much girls on the streets as was before on November. Last Saturday was really good was a lot of girls and I start to thinking Santa Fe is going back to normal but next few days again becomes same quiet. Of course if you coming here for 3-7 days still plenty of girls to choose, but if you stay longer and don't like repeat same girls and want new everyday as me after sometime its become more tricky to find new girls you like. Some days I could find any I like. As for this moment the best times for street girls probably between 18.30 pm till 21.30 pm. I went many times on the daytime also but its quiet. The prices not change for street girls I always paying 40 k for 20 minutes with room in total. If you ask the girls how much they want for 20 min? Some said 40 k some 50 k but 90 percent agree 40 k if you negotiate. If you go out of main area you still can get some street girls for 30 k but another side most of the times not worth to go the girls is lower quality and streets are more dodgy. 3 or 4 days ago the drug dealer was murdered at Santa Fe hotel room so last few days was crazy amount of police on the streets I never seen so many before. Anyway Santa Fe still fun if you use the common sense.

[FlashShaker]

I'll be in Bogota for only 5 days, would you recommend Tinder or SA for non-working girls? I would prefer to have things lined up before I arrive there, but Tinder seems like it would be better used once I'm there instead of ahead of time..My usual trips to Bogota are about 5-7 days only. That's all the time I can spend for now. Personally, I have learned with such a short time frame, don't spend / waste time with Tinder / SA for a variety of reasons most of which have been mentioned here many times. You will spend / waste a lot of valuable time. Tinder, girls can be flaky and be hours late or just no shows. SA, my experience, slightly improved except some girls are not necessarily a guaranteed bang. Other SA issues are time wasted wining and dining or you might find a girl who won't give you what you really want (eg she won't BBBJ but expects to favored / compensated / donated / helped with like 3-500 k pesos). SA in Colombia is sort of infested with pretty much same prepagos working girls.

I've used both and didn't particularly find anyone more interesting than any girls on prepagos site. I, personally, don't use the term 'non-working girls' because if she's banging a stranger and 'expects' to be 'rewarded' for her time she's working. Whether she mentions it or not, it's expected that she will be rewarded. She may not be a pro-hoe but she a hoe hoe. On a personal ex: Met an attorney on SA last time, she wanted a lifestyle well out of her league. She can mostly get it with foreigners so that's why she's on SA. She was very open about her experiences and has had several sugar daddies who flew her to as far as Dubai. She's had something like 10/12 SD's over the last few years.

My. 02 cents.

[Voodoo Jones]

My usual trips to Bogota are about 5-7 days only. That's all the time I can spend for now. Personally, I have learned with such a short time frame, don't spend / waste time with Tinder / SA for a variety of reasons most of which have been mentioned here many times. You will spend / waste a lot of valuable time. Tinder, girls can be flaky and be hours late or just no shows. SA, my experience, slightly improved except some girls are not necessarily a guaranteed bang. Other SA issues are time wasted wining and dining or you might find a girl who won't give you what you really want (eg she won't BBBJ but expects to favored / compensated / donated / helped with like 3-500 k pesos). SA in Colombia is sort of infested with pretty much same prepagos working girls.

I've used both and didn't particularly find anyone more interesting than any girls on prepagos site. I, personally, don't use the term 'non-working girls' because if she's banging a stranger and 'expects' to be 'rewarded' for her time she's working. Whether she mentions it or not, it's expected that she will be rewarded. She may not be a pro-hoe but she a hoe hoe. On a personal ex: Met an attorney on SA last time, she wanted a lifestyle well out of her league. She can mostly get it with foreigners so that's why she's on SA. She was very open about her experiences and has had several sugar daddies who flew her to as far as Dubai. She's had something like 10/12 SD's over the last few years..Much appreciated. I should have mentioned I do plan on using prepagos for the majority. I was thinking maybe a few candidates from SA and I would leave if things don't shape up after an hour at most, but is it worth $100 membership for that? Maybe not.

You mentioned you've been to Bogota multiple times. Have you gone to the other cities in Colombia or do you just prefer Bogota?

[AjaiGoa]

I am planning a trip to Colombia and am confused should I pick Cali or Bogota. I am more interested in fulfilling my fattish for pregnant women. Can some let me know which place would be best for me.

[Woodman09]

I am planning a trip to Colombia and am confused should I pick Cali or Bogota. I am more interested in fulfilling my fattish for pregnant women. Can some let me know which place would be best for me.I recently saw 1 or 2 pregnant in Santa Fe. There often are but I do not really make notes on them.

[Sock111]

Here is a report on the escort service provider I used on my trip to Bogota in November.

I frequently used the escort provider eroticasbogota.com. I have to say that I was impressed with the booking experience. The professionalism and response times were great. I communicated with them through whatsapp. They spoke english. I think prices were very fair and advertised ahead of time. There was not a single girl that quoted me a different price when she arrived. It also listed prices for extras such as BBBJ and CIM, and every girl I saw honored extras as priced. Sometimes they have a girl or two not on the website that is available when you ask them for a list of available girls for the day. They had no problem sending me pictures of those girls. The girls they picture on the website are the ones that show up. Of course the pictures are touched up a little but not to the point I felt like I was deceived. I highly recommend this agency.

Now for my first review.

Juliana.

I decided to go with Juliana as her price was on the low side. Since this was the first time using this agency, I decided to try the cheapest option first in case the experience was bad. She was young, I believed she was actually 20 as it says on her profile. Arrived on time. Looks just like her pics on the website. No issues with reception at my hotel. She was great in bed and gave an enthusiastic BBBJ. Provided DFK. Did not rush, took her time and did not leave after I busted. She went to shower and came back to lay with me in the bed. Body was great, no baby damage. Did not mention anything about payment. I paid her when she was ready to leave. Overall a very good experience.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Here is a report on the escort service provider I used on my trip to Bogota in November.

I frequently used the escort provider eroticasbogota.com. I have to say that I was impressed with the booking experience. The professionalism and response times were great. I communicated with them through whatsapp. They spoke english. I think prices were very fair and advertised ahead of time. There was not a single girl that quoted me a different price when she arrived. It also listed prices for extras such as BBBJ and CIM, and every girl I saw honored extras as priced. Sometimes they have a girl or two not on the website that is available when you ask them for a list of available girls for the day. They had no problem sending me pictures of those girls. The girls they picture on the website are the ones that show up. Of course the pictures are touched up a little but not to the point I felt like I was deceived. I highly recommend this agency.

Now for my first review.

Juliana.

I decided to go with Juliana as her price was on the low side. Since this was the first time using this agency, I decided to try the cheapest option first in case the experience was bad. She was young, I believed she was actually 20 as it says on her profile. Arrived on time. Looks just like her pics on the website. No issues with reception at my hotel. She was great in bed and gave an enthusiastic BBBJ. Provided DFK. Did not rush, took her time and did not leave after I busted. She went to shower and came back to lay with me in the bed. Body was great, no baby damage. Did not mention anything about payment. I paid her when she was ready to leave. Overall a very good experience.The girls they picture on the website are the ones that show up? Seriously.

They are wearing fucking masks bro.

Don't tell me they don't send diff chicas than the fotos.

Did they pay you for this post?

[FlashShaker]

Much appreciated. I should have mentioned I do plan on using prepagos for the majority. I was thinking maybe a few candidates from SA and I would leave if things don't shape up after an hour at most, but is it worth $100 membership for that? Maybe not.

You mentioned you've been to Bogota multiple times. Have you gone to the other cities in Colombia or do you just prefer Bogota?Yes, I have been to Cali (2 x. Once pre & post-pandemic, Cartagena. Pre-pandemic, Medellin (only and last in 2014). Since the re-open I really prefer to hang out in Bogota mainly out of convenience. On a 5-7 day trip, making local connections to other cities adds another 2.5 hrs each way and that's only if all goes well.

Do I think SA is worth it? Personally and strictly speaking about SA as it relates to Colombia, I would say no. There is just a lot and I mean too many women and many of them are easy to talk to or connect with. The same women by and large on SA are on Tinder / Bumble and Latin / Colombian-cupid for a fraction of the cost. For my time, its prepagos, casas Tinder / bumble to see what's up and even then I still schedule a prepagos for about 30 mns after in case a tinder / bumble flakes out.

[Pussycat123]

I am planning a trip to Colombia and am confused should I pick Cali or Bogota. I am more interested in fulfilling my fattish for pregnant women. Can some let me know which place would be best for me.Never been to Cali but I can't imagine Cali is better. Plus Bog has a full blown RLD called Santa Fe.

As for preggies hmm dont know....the only one I saw on the streets anywhere was in Zona Norte in TJ..I didnt partake, but thinking back it might have been fun

[DonCarlos1234]

I land in Bog later tonight. One very pretty girl from SA messaged and she wants to do lunch. I have 2 more that most likely will want to fuc. Scheduled one day apart. My friends in USA say, so "she wants a free lunch on a horny old man. " So, I got rid of these usa idiots, brainwashed people. My concern is yes she will enjoy lunch and since she is very good looking (however small breasts) I might succumb to take her to the hotel. No $ discussed. I might insult her if I offer anything. The other 2 will be all evening dates and they already know the program.

Since I am an "old man" LOL I am concerned about my recovery rate, chafing of the penis and basically too many girls available. Some booked in advance. I will immediately get a shot of testosterone upon landing. Also have some cream for the penis which I use in between sessions. Anything else I need?

Next is the hot as fuc actress / model / 2. That has told me blatantly, "I I have never had an orgasm" this she told me over a week ago. So in preparation (we will spend nighters. I purchased multiple sex toys, various lubricants, vibrators etc. She thinks she is in love with me. Wtf? So I will go with the flow and see what happens.

There are too many women and not enough time to meet. And once I land there will be even more. I downsized from over 200 (with their numbers, texting etc.) to only around 50 but in different cities all over Colombia. Most are 10's. They are all nice people. My penis is apparently running the show. So I increased the time in Colombia to 2 months. I figure 10 of these girls will want long term relationships. If I fall in love, it won't be the first time. I hope to meet them and return to close a deal with someone, maybe more than one. Help Elvis! . I feel kinda bad about that. But you only live once.

[Mr Enternational]

Did they pay you for this post?Come on man. Someone comes out of nowhere and mentions one particular site that nobody here ever talks about, and only talks about one chick from said site. They said nothing else about the city or any other mongering or attempts to monger.

[Sock111]

Come on man. Someone comes out of nowhere and mentions one particular site that nobody here ever talks about, and only talks about one chick from said site. They said nothing else about the city or any other mongering or attempts to monger.I posted a review on the escort service I used and I guess my credibility is lacking. I was going to review some more girls on the site, but I guess I'll skip that and move on to my Sante Fe experience.

So, I've done my research and read the forums before heading to Bogota. I've been to Cartagena before, but this would be my first time in Bogota besides transiting through the airport. I knew that Santa Fe was probably going to be dangerous so I opted to stay far from Santa Fe for the first few days until I got my bearings. My hotel was north of the Zona T and the area I was in was very nice and safe. One thing I was surprised about is the quality of the food in the Zona Rosa and how cheap it is. There are many great restaurants and costs about a third of what you would pay for an equivalent dish in the US. I booked a tour with Woodman and I am glad I did. Even within the Santa Fe area there are areas that are a few blocks apart that are vastly different in quality of girls and safety. During the tour we ran into two other ISG members he gave a tour too prior. You know who you are my canadian and german friend. I ended up hanging out with those two many times during my trip and we had a blast.

Here are some of my takeaways. The immediate area around the clubs are the safest. As a first time visitor I would stick around the block with the clubs where Fiebre and Paisas are. If you plan to visit Santa Fe, plan your trip so you are there Thursday through Saturday. The rest of the days are so dead. Probably 3 of the 5 nights I was there, the police bus was parked in the area. It was the size of a full greyhound bus. I found it very amusing and I think it provided a level of safety. Even if it did look like they were just there to collect payments.

Next report I'll provide reports on the girls I tried in Santa Fe.

[Gabacho]

Today I took a tour around the area directly south of the main part of Santa Fe. Starting at calle 19 just past Avenida Caracas, I hung a right on cra 15 bis. And proceeded north hanging a right on calle 20 and a left of cra 14 bis. Many Venezolana chicas, all quoted me 30 k COP (la pieza included). I found a few diamonds in the rough, one agreed to BBFS for 70 k COP I was able to finish with her right as the knock on the door came. The area looks a little more rough than the main part of Santa Fe but for me that's half the thrill.

Glad to be back agn.

Gabacho.

[Ggekko2009]

I posted a review on the escort service I used and I guess my credibility is lacking. I was going to review some more girls on the site, but I guess I'll skip that and move on to my Sante Fe experience.

So, I've done my research and read the forums before heading to Bogota. I've been to Cartagena before, but this would be my first time in Bogota besides transiting through the airport. I knew that Santa Fe was probably going to be dangerous so I opted to stay far from Santa Fe for the first few days until I got my bearings. My hotel was north of the Zona T and the area I was in was very nice and safe. One thing I was surprised about is the quality of the food in the Zona Rosa and how cheap it is. There are many great restaurants and costs about a third of what you would pay for an equivalent dish in the US. I booked a tour with Woodman and I am glad I did. Even within the Santa Fe area there are areas that are a few blocks apart that are vastly different in quality of girls and safety. During the tour we ran into two other ISG members he gave a tour too prior. You know who you are my canadian and german friend. I ended up hanging out with those two many times during my trip and we had a blast.

Here are some of my takeaways. The immediate area around the clubs are the safest. As a first time visitor I would stick around the block with the clubs where Fiebre and Paisas are. If you plan to visit Santa Fe, plan your trip so you are there Thursday through Saturday. The rest of the days are so dead. Probably 3 of the 5 nights I was there, the police bus was parked in the area. It was the size of a full greyhound bus. I found it very amusing and I think it provided a level of safety. Even if it did look like they were just there to collect payments.

Next report I'll provide reports on the girls I tried in Santa Fe.I can vouch for your report and your credibility. That's because I was there with you, jejeje. Colombia will be my new playground at least until Germany and SEA open up again.

[Mr Enternational]

I can vouch for your report and your credibility. That's because I was there with you, jejeje. I stand corrected and apologize to Sock in that case.

[Captain Solo]

Sock.

My wingman and I did hook up with the Canadian and German pair in Santa Fe mid November. I actually met the Canadian bro in Tijuana a few years back. We were drinking in Club Fiebre, watching the strip show with a girl in full black nun cloak, huge head piece, rolling around on the stage, masturbating with a huge dildo. Suddenly there were lots of commotion out in the street. A force of about 80 policias raided clubs for vaccine violation. I was the only one triple vaxxed, the other 3 had nada. We slipped out of the club quickly and disappeared before policias got to Fiebre.

I came back to Fiebre a few nights later. The girls were mostly chubby and heavy. The only slim girl turned out to be a trannie with horrible broken deep voice. The same thing happened in Cartagena. The only tall, slim girl was a cold trannie with lots of tattoos and a deep, booming voice. Damn.

It's the third week in December now. A few bros are still in Santa Fe after 6 weeks. There must be something special about Santa Fe.

You know who you are my Canadian and German friend. I ended up hanging out with those two many times during my trip and we had a blast.

[Elvis 2008]

They are all nice people. My penis is apparently running the show. So I increased the time in Colombia to 2 months. I figure 10 of these girls will want long term relationships. If I fall in love, it won't be the first time. I hope to meet them and return to close a deal with someone, maybe more than one. Help Elvis! . I feel kinda bad about that. But you only live once.I get it Don. I was sure that I would always have one in reserve because all women go crazy, but it has been over a year now for me, and things are still great. I hope you find one you can trust that blows all the others away. I have never had a relationship get better in the second year like this one has.

[Sock111]

Santa Fe is an interesting place. It definitely has a level of raunchiness you can appreciate. I made the rounds to the different blocks to see what was on offer. I have to say that I was not impressed. Sure there were definitely some good looking girls, but in terms of quantity and quality it was definitely not what I expected from a city with so many people. That is not to say that you can't find anything. It just pales in comparison to say Soi 6 in Pattaya. Maybe it was the time of year I visited. There were a few I considered, especially this cute girl we nicknamed Zendeya. She definitely resembled her and she was recommended as a good provider. She was always hanging at the corner near Texas club. I ultimately decided not to as I don't really enjoy the street girl, wham bam thank you mam experience. Had I stayed longer, I would have tried to get her contact info and have her visit me at my hotel.

I did sample a girl at Fiebre. Now while I was there, Fiebre on average just had the most girls out of all the clubs. Friday and Saturday night, you could not find a seat without buying a bottle. The other clubs were nowhere near as busy. I came across a young valenzuelan girl, she was cute had a great attitude and all natural. I got a lap dance, and I have to say the lap dances at Fiebre are hands down better than anywhere else I've been to. All the girls I've got a lap dance from there, have a whole choreographed routine. They get fully nude, and go through various motions including, putting their legs on your shoulders, using a table or chair for leverage, motorboating and putting their panties on you. All this for 40 k-50 k pesos is a great deal. Now one of the things I read is that its difficult to get BBBJ in Santa Fe. After going upstairs with the girl, I can understand why. The room was shit. After we did the deed there was no shower, the sink barely dribbled water. I was told this was the standard quality of rooms in Santa Fe. So I can see why a girl wouldn't want to give BBBJ if she has no way to rinse her mouth or wash up afterwards. I just focused on quickly busting a nut so I can get out of the room. It was a fun experience and I'm glad I tried it once, but not one that I am keen on repeating. I got her number and arranged to have her come to my hotel on one of her days not working the club. That experience was much better and a story for another report.

[Ggekko2009]

I got a lap dance, and I have to say the lap dances at Fiebre are hands down better than anywhere else I've been to. All the girls I've got a lap dance from there, have a whole choreographed routine. They get fully nude, and go through various motions including, putting their legs on your shoulders, using a table or chair for leverage, motorboating and putting their panties on you. My girl really enjoyed the lap dance with that chica dancer that you recommended. That chica had even managed to slide in and out ice cube from her pussy several times while spreading her legs in front of my girl's face. That takes a lot of agility. I can tell that my girl was very tempted to lick the chica's pussy right there and then. It really turned her on.

Could have booked that chica out that night since my girl liked her. Too bad that chica had disappeared when we were ready to do so. Anyway, I doubt she would be as wild in a threesome once we get her to our hotel room. Then again, life can be full of surprises.

[Silver Turtle]

I have been in Santa Fe for a week. There are no good talents at all. Only about 30 percent of the people wear masks and many people are with runny nose and coughing. I imagine some of them have Covid. Bogota is the 6th worst city for covid infection per capita, but few people take tests in Colombia and there could be more infections. They walk and stand too close to you. Probably Latino culture, they don't like distance from other people.

[Balboa]

Santa Fe is an interesting place. It definitely has a level of raunchiness you can appreciate. I made the rounds to the different blocks to see what was on offer. I have to say that I was not impressed. Sure there were definitely some good looking girls, but in terms of quantity and quality it was definitely not what I expected from a city with so many people.
Santa Fe is Santa Fe, LOL.

It's the hunt, the talk, the deal and the deed.

There are those that will like it, and be good at it, and those that won't.

I was there this past Friday.

From about 4 pm to 9 pm or so. I had a blast.

Met 3 chicas on the street, all Venezolanas, all cute and cool.

One was a stand out, the last one I was with actually, and though I don't normally ask or look for this, she wanted to get f**d in the booty.

There were more cuties out there as well. I just ran out of bullets. Lol.

Fun times!

[Mr Enternational]

I have been in Santa Fe for a week. There are no good talents at all. Only about 30 percent of the people wear masks and many people are with runny nose and coughing. I imagine some of them have Covid.Maybe some like you said, but there has been a flu bug going around Bogota

[Woodman09]

I have been in Santa Fe for a week. There are no good talents at all. Only about 30 percent of the people wear masks and many people are with runny nose and coughing. I imagine some of them have Covid. Bogota is the 6th worst city for covid infection per capita, but few people take tests in Colombia and there could be more infections. They walk and stand too close to you. Probably Latino culture, they don't like distance from other people.Santa Fe has been a bit slow- It's hit and miss-- Fortunately I have not been disappointed with the club girls I know. Street scene Was not bad Saturday.

A lot of people do not wear masks people here are not neurotic like in the US. I had caught covid again about 10 days ago. Guess it was the omicron? Basically like the a couple of the times before I have been sick it was a bad flu for 24 hours. Like the Majority of the Billions who have had it.

I think the viagra I use helps with my recovery thinning the blood and breaking down microclots I have read.

[Silver Turtle]

Santa Fe has been a bit slow- It's hit and miss-- Fortunately I have not been disappointed with the club girls I know. Street scene Was not bad Saturday.

A lot of people do not wear masks people here are not neurotic like in the US. I had caught covid again about 10 days ago. Guess it was the omicron? Basically like the a couple of the times before I have been sick it was a bad flu for 24 hours. Like the Majority of the Billions who have had it.

I think the viagra I use helps with my recovery thinning the blood and breaking down microclots I have read.Colombia, in spite of the moderate population size, ranks 13th in the world for the covid death.

Sure, Viagra, snake oil, Pepto Bismol, etc, would help "your" covid infection.

[Woodman09]

Colombia, in spite of the moderate population size, ranks 13th in the world for the covid death.

Sure, Viagra, snake oil, Pepto Bismol, etc, would help "your" covid infection.Had covid several times, still here like 99.9% of the population who have had it.

[Silver Turtle]

Santa Fe has been a bit slow- It's hit and miss-- Fortunately I have not been disappointed with the club girls I know. Street scene Was not bad Saturday.

A lot of people do not wear masks people here are not neurotic like in the US. I had caught covid again about 10 days ago. Guess it was the omicron? Basically like the a couple of the times before I have been sick it was a bad flu for 24 hours. Like the Majority of the Billions who have had it.

I think the viagra I use helps with my recovery thinning the blood and breaking down microclots I have read.Is this your 3rd infection? You are infected and going to clubs and streets and talking to the girls and employees. Probably other locals are doing the same.

[Woodman09]

Is this your 3rd infection? You are infected and going to clubs and streets and talking to the girls and employees. Probably other locals are doing the same.It is my 4th or 5th+-- It is a Cold or at Worst a Flu to me (And Most People in The World) and when I have been sick I stay home-- Calm Down-- don't be so Neurotic.

[Igor54]

Santa Fe is an interesting place. It definitely has a level of raunchiness you can appreciate. I made the rounds to the different blocks to see what was on offer. I have to say that I was not impressed. Sure there were definitely some good looking girls, but in terms of quantity and quality it was definitely not what I expected from a city with so many people. That is not to say that you can't find anything. It just pales in comparison to say Soi 6 in Pattaya. Maybe it was the time of year I visited. There were a few I considered, especially this cute girl we nicknamed Zendeya. She definitely resembled her and she was recommended as a good provider. She was always hanging at the corner near Texas club. I ultimately decided not to as I don't really enjoy the street girl, wham bam thank you mam experience. Had I stayed longer, I would have tried to get her contact info and have her visit me at my hotel.

I did sample a girl at Fiebre. Now while I was there, Fiebre on average just had the most girls out of all the clubs. Friday and Saturday night, you could not find a seat without buying a bottle. The other clubs were nowhere near as busy. I came across a young valenzuelan girl, she was cute had a great attitude and all natural. I got a lap dance, and I have to say the lap dances at Fiebre are hands down better than anywhere else I've been to. All the girls I've got a lap dance from there, have a whole choreographed routine. They get fully nude, and go through various motions including, putting their legs on your shoulders, using a table or chair for leverage, motorboating and putting their panties on you. All this for 40 k-50 k pesos is a great deal. Now one of the things I read is that its difficult to get BBBJ in Santa Fe. After going upstairs with the girl, I can understand why. The room was shit. After we did the deed there was no shower, the sink barely dribbled water. I was told this was the standard quality of rooms in Santa Fe. So I can see why a girl wouldn't want to give BBBJ if she has no way to rinse her mouth or wash up afterwards. I just focused on quickly busting a nut so I can get out of the room. It was a fun experience and I'm glad I tried it once, but not one that I am keen on repeating. I got her number and arranged to have her come to my hotel on one of her days not working the club. That experience was much better and a story for another report.My friend, no one knows what is to get shower in SF. In my experience, and I have a lot, they give to girls a roll of townlet paper to wipe her pussy, I flucked a lot of pole dancers there and there are sweat and I pushed them to get a shower but the water is cold and they wash themselves just front body. And it seems OK for SF. And about BBBF read this. Good lack to get one, look for the link / table /.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexually_transmitted_infection

[Blue Touch]

My friend, no one knows what is to get shower in SF. In my experience, and I have a lot, they give to girls a roll of townlet paper to wipe her pussy, I flucked a lot of pole dancers there and there are sweat and I pushed them to get a shower but the water is cold and they wash themselves just front body. And it seems OK for SF. And about BBBF read this. Good lack to get one, look for the link / table /.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexually_transmitted_infectionDue to the cold weather, girls in Bogota don't take shower before or after the sessions. That's why I don't pick girls on the street or in clubs. My regulars come to my hotel in the morning and I tell them to take (hot) shower before the session.

[DirtyDJ]

My forum search didn't turn anything up.

What's up guys? I'll be in town early February and was looking for a place to stay. Was looking at the Taquendama but noticed airbnbs are super cheap in Bogota. Does anyone have any intel on the Equilibrium apartments? They're nice and have about 30 different apartments listed ranging from $30-$50 per night. Was hoping to figure out how chica friendly they were.

[FlashShaker]

Due to the cold weather, girls in Bogota don't take shower before or after the sessions. That's why I don't pick girls on the street or in clubs. My regulars come to my hotel in the morning and I tell them to take (hot) shower before the session.Are you serious about this? But, you are right. Have gone to two casas and met one chic at her place and that was the case. The casa chics didn't shower between customers, they just wiped themselves for the most part. The chic whose place I went to was super funky. She was real pretty, beautiful and fit as fawk. But her be. O. Was funku. Ruined the whole experience. BTW, your post should go in the FAQ's for Bogota.

[Voodoo Jones]

My forum search didn't turn anything up.

What's up guys? I'll be in town early February and was looking for a place to stay. Was looking at the Taquendama but noticed airbnbs are super cheap in Bogota. Does anyone have any intel on the Equilibrium apartments? They're nice and have about 30 different apartments listed ranging from $30-$50 per night. Was hoping to figure out how chica friendly they were.Just email them. I tell them I'm a business trip and need to have coworkers or clients stop by the apartment.

From what I've researched in Chapinero (one of the richest districts), AirBnBs and local hotels are the most lenient with their policy. If they do charge, it's a small amount (like less than $10 for an overnight guest). Stay away from the international chains unless you want to pay high fees ($40-$100 for an overnight guest).

[Ggekko2009]

Just email them. I tell them I'm a business trip and need to have coworkers or clients stop by the apartment.

From what I've researched in Chapinero (one of the richest districts), AirBnBs and local hotels are the most lenient with their policy. If they do charge, it's a small amount (like less than $10 for an overnight guest). Stay away from the international chains unless you want to pay high fees ($40-$100 for an overnight guest).Good to know and thanks for sharing. Planning to use AirBNB the next time I am there during a longer stay and now I know which area to search for.

Taquendama do charge me an equivalent of USD 13 for a visitor at night, but only during nighttime. I am not sure when is their cutoff time is though since I don't have that issue during the daytime.

[Igor54]

Are you serious about this? But, you are right. Have gone to two casas and met one chic at her place and that was the case. The casa chics didn't shower between customers, they just wiped themselves for the most part. The chic whose place I went to was super funky. She was real pretty, beautiful and fit as fawk. But her be. O. Was funku. Ruined the whole experience. BTW, your post should go in the FAQ's for Bogota.In my experience, even you stay in Airbnb you have an electric shower and apartments do not have any heating. In cold months to get shower you have to push yourself because it's cold. What do you want from girls? They have 10 clients a day. To get 10 showers a day in Bogota= you should be a polar bear to handle that.

[JohnnyWalker55]

Like many others here, felt like shit all week. All the girls are sniffling or coughing. Idk what it is, doesn't stop me.

SF has A lot of talent around happy hour during the weekdays, but I see how pokeris says it can get old if you're here 1 month +. Weather not bad either.

I've mentioned before but don't bother with pepas or perico on the street, all fake shit here. Weed is pretty good.

Been going strictly vennies. Making sure theyre not too attractive in the face and morena. They are more eager to please and less chosen by locals ime.

The pale rolas are mechanical and charge 40-50 k plus room. The vennies I've been going with 1-2x a day charge 30 k +pieza or 30 included.

Yes 30 k all included. Fucking unreal. theyre alot more personable than the Colombians too, and rarely ask for propina.

Got my second midget today, carmen, stands by the calle 19 side right at the entrance in a pink jumper, probably 4 ft 2 130. Very thic. Almost busted when she got on top LOL.
the lube is a game changer, bring those fusiomax packs everywhere you go.

My first one was the infamous anorexic midget at botero in mde, this girls pussy much better. like really good. 30 k inc room. and a sweetheart.

Vennies are where it's at.

Saw a group of 5-6 gringo dudes taking up the sidewalk talking loud english, one of them a chubby asian guy, that anyone on here lmao?!

Sorry I didn't say Hi, I have a no English rule when out and about. Douchey I know, but has worked so far.. i blend in.

Best.

Jw.

[Zirblarf]

I was in Bogota January 14th-16th and figured ID post (even though I'm a little late).

I'm new to the scene here so I used some of the escort agencies.

Stay:

Hotel 4 points Sheraton.

Friday night:

Encounters VIP. Nicol.

https://www.encountersvip.com/nicol

Looked just like the photos online.

CBJ+FS 250000 pesos for 1 hour.

Saturday morning:

La Celestina. Maria.

https://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepagos-modelos-Bogota-maria-paula-canon

Photos were accurate.

BBBJ+FS 250000 pesos for 1 hour.

Went to Monserrate in the afternoon. The altitude really took it out of me. Its a beautiful view of the city but 11000' is not for the faint of heart.

Sunday morning:

La Celestina. Katy.

https://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepagos-modelos-Bogota-katy-freyle

Photos were not even close to accurate.

Service was good, not who I expected though.

BBBJ+FS+CIM 270000 pesos for 1 hour.

[Ggekko2009]

Stay:

Hotel 4 points Sheraton.

How was their guest policy like? Any issue or extra $$ bringing girls there?



Encounters VIP. Nicol.

https://www.encountersvip.com/nicol

Looked just like the photos online.

CBJ+FS 250000 pesos for 1 hour.

How was her service? GFE? Did she ask for payment before or after the service was rendered?

[Zirblarf]

How was their guest policy like? Any issue or extra $$ bringing girls there?

How was her service? GFE? Did she ask for payment before or after the service was rendered?Nicol was the best of all 3. GFE was great. She asked for payment after service.

Hotel guest policy was super lenient. You can have the girl check in at the front desk and they will send her up directly to your room. No extra guest fee.

[DonValle]

I went there the other day, to number #14. The girl was Mia, and they said the prices were 100 K for half hour with CBJ, 150 K half hour with FS, 200 K for same for an hour. I read the forum back about 30 pages and I see someone saying that those are gringo prices for Mezzanine, and another saying that it depends on which door. I'm curious what people are paying there. Next time I'll try to negotiate and see what happens. The girl was good looking, but those prices seemed too high. (I'm new to Colombia.)

[NjGuy215]

I went there the other day, to number #14. The girl was Mia, and they said the prices were 100 K for half hour with CBJ, 150 K half hour with FS, 200 K for same for an hour. I read the forum back about 30 pages and I see someone saying that those are gringo prices for Mezzanine, and another saying that it depends on which door. I'm curious what people are paying there. Next time I'll try to negotiate and see what happens. The girl was good looking, but those prices seemed too high. (I'm new to Colombia.)I'm going to be in Bogota tomorrow. Let see what kinda prices I get. First time there.

[Pimpampoumpipo]

Hotel guest policy was super lenient. You can have the girl check in at the front desk and they will send her up directly to your room. No extra guest fee.I am surprised.

I wrote email 2 days ago to ask guests policies to Four Point Sheraton Bogota. Here was their reply:

"good morning Mr XXXX.

Yes we will charge per guest 15 usd.

Kind regards, ".

[Yossarian]

Just email them. I tell them I'm a business trip and need to have coworkers or clients stop by the apartment.

From what I've researched in Chapinero (one of the richest districts), AirBnBs and local hotels are the most lenient with their policy. If they do charge, it's a small amount (like less than $10 for an overnight guest). Stay away from the international chains unless you want to pay high fees ($40-$100 for an overnight guest).The place I stay in Chapinero (Cra8 at Cll57) runs between $20 - $25/ day (get weekly discount since I stay at least two weeks and no charge for visitors or any hassle.

[Master Monger]

Negroni is a restaurant located on Calle 23 # 4 a 08, Bogota.

Great gourmet food and a nice environment for only 30 k a person!

If you like good food check this place out!

MM.

[Igor54]

I am surprised.

I wrote email 2 days ago to ask guests policies to Four Point Sheraton Bogota. Here was their reply:

"good morning Mr XXXX.

Yes we will charge per guest 15 usd.

Kind regards, ".I had an experience in one small hotel in SF area. I stayed there for a week. Everything was good, the manager is a very nice lady and she lives right in the hotel. I asked her I paid for two people, what is about my guests? Can I bring any? She answered, I can allow you to bring one guest. I asked why not more? She said 'I have a business. I have some long term clients. I am concerned about my health and health of my clients. Why do I need any problems with your guests? You can bring one person you paid for but I don't need any problems more than that.

[FlashShaker]

I am surprised.

I wrote email 2 days ago to ask guests policies to Four Point Sheraton Bogota. Here was their reply:

"good morning Mr XXXX.

Yes we will charge per guest 15 usd.

Kind regards.I have been here for about 6 days so far and this is my second hotel. First one was the NHL Collection WTC, a nice big hotel but def overrated. They had a guest fee of USD 20 p / night. I had booked for 2 pp so they said I can register the 'guest' but any others will have a fee. Have stayed a the Best Western Parque 93, great hotel, no guest fee. I am 'working from home' so I have a lot of stuff in the open. Something about me is I really don't like chicas in my room, just not a fan. Usually, I'll get a 2nd room in a relatively cheap place for few nights for the chicas. A place is IBIS centro for $35-40/ night, no guest fee.

[DirtyDJ]

I'll be there Sunday and staying between 3-6 days before heading to Med. Hit my DMs if any of you guys are down to meet up!

[Pussycat123]

I have stayed in two airbnbs near Santa Fe, one was BD Bacata and another was close by. Both of them are towers and both had security guards at the entrance. In both cases guests were allowed, but how strict they were about guests depended on the guard on duty. Best case, they didn't even look up from the desk, worst case, they asked the chica to show a cedula (ID) and register. As long as they were over 18 I don't think they will refuse entry to a guest (As long as the apartment owner has said its ok and in both cases I specifically asked the owner if guests were ok and they said yes). Security must have known what I was up to as well because I was bringing two or three girls a day and some of them were 18 year old skanks from the slums, and Im in my fifities. Personally I don't mind security checking the chicas cedula because it puts them on notice that we know who they are, and if they don't produce one it might be a red flag.

If the airbnb is a private place without security then I don't see how they could even stop you having guests.

In terms of hotels, I've never stayed in a hotel in Bog but I think they tend to be much more strict than airbnbs because unless it simply a short time hotel they don't want families etc to think guys are bringing hookers into the place; It looks bad and it could result in unecessarry drama.

I remember in a hotel called Valentinos in Angeles City in there was a big commotion on the first floor and two ladyboys were bangin on a guests door saying they didnt get paid and were pissed. The security guard didnt intervene, he just laughed and said the cheapskate should have paid. Even in AC though Im sure the hotel didnt want that kind of shit going on.

[Turgid]

.....I remember in a hotel called Valentinos in Angeles City in there was a big commotion on the first floor and two ladyboys were bangin on a guests door saying they didnt get paid and were pissed. The security guard didnt intervene, he just laughed and said the cheapskate should have paid. Even in AC though Im sure the hotel didnt want that kind of shit going on.The last time I was in AC (2007) the hotel I stayed in (the Perimeter) always had a lineup of at least 10 young slim girls on the ground floor. You could take as many of them at one time to your room as you wished. I love SEA.

[FlashShaker]

Finally made it to Santa Fe solo. It was Tuesday around 7 p'ish and the place did not look alive almost at all. First, went to Fiebre, dead! Few chicas but they were sitting down. No music and then I realized why. The soccer match between Colombia v. Argentina was on and it seemed like time stood still. Had a beer and feft. Walked over and went to check out Paisa's, same outcome. So I started walking around in the street about 2 blocks each direction. There were some chicas hanging out in front of open buildings and all but nothing that caught my interest. Finally, after about an hour, I just left and went back hotel. Definitely, did not feel any kind of intimidation or unsafe walking around SF. Lots of guys / people milling and moving about but mostly seemed to be minding their own business. I'll have to plan for another visit on my next trip.

[FlashShaker]

Just got back from 6 nites in Col, 2 nights were spent in Cali. During that time, saw 7 prepagos total, 3 "Tinder dates" and 2 SA's from when I had my account. The prepagos were OK, none was real bad experience but 2 of them were real mechanical. One strange experience with this one VZ chica was she was in a shared apt, like all of the prepagos I met. This one had a cleaning lady on site cleaning and there were two guys just hanging out in the kitchen area. They were talking very loud, like arguing about soccer and were very loud. Sh! T was very distracting. The girl actually left to ask them to bring their voices down. They did but only for a while. Paid her for an hour but left after about 35 minutes. Her room was a damn sauna with no fans and I was having difficulty breathing so I busted and left.

The tinder dates were basically prepagos from a more legit site. After the match, they all had a proposal which they don't know if I am going to accept. Two asked for 200 k for 2 hrs and the last asked for 500 and she would stay the night. Offered 200 for 2 h and she accepted. She ended up staying the night (where I got the room in Ibis) and gave an extra 100 in the AM. Mainly bec in the AM, she surprised me with an BBBJ in my sleep and we smashed again then left.

First SA asked for a donation for 400 k even before she got there. Again, offered 200 which she 'reluctantly' accepted. She showed up an hour later but she had a cold sore on her upper lip. Good gawd! No thanks!

Second SA came to meet, she's in Cali and linked up with her while I was there. We went to lunch at Hooters Granada and its where we discussing the terms. This one is a legit nurse (sent many pictures and videos). She asked me to pay the rent for her for January (450 US) + $400 for her and she will be with me until I leave. Only 2 nights in town. Had to thank but decline her. That whole process wasted my afternoon.

Al in all I had a great time in Col. Definitely can't wait to go back.

[Kutler]

I have been here for about 6 days so far and this is my second hotel. First one was the NHL Collection WTC, a nice big hotel but def overrated. They had a guest fee of USD 20 p / night. I had booked for 2 pp so they said I can register the 'guest' but any others will have a fee. Have stayed a the Best Western Parque 93, great hotel, no guest fee. I am 'working from home' so I have a lot of stuff in the open. Something about me is I really don't like chicas in my room, just not a fan. Usually, I'll get a 2nd room in a relatively cheap place for few nights for the chicas. A place is IBIS centro for $35-40/ night, no guest fee.Last time I stayed in SMR, there was VAT tax relief that was supposed to expire on Dec 31 2021. Do you recall if you were charged VAT after Jan 1st to take guests to IBIS?

[Mr Enternational]

Second SA came to meet, she's in Cali and linked up with her while I was there. We went to lunch at Hooters Granada and its where we discussing the terms. This one is a legit nurse (sent many pictures and videos). She asked me to pay the rent for her for January (450 US)She must live in the flyest pad in town. The nurses I know in Colombia are not raking in a paycheck to pay that kind of rent.

[Cursnoop]

She must live in the flyest pad in town. The nurses I know in Colombia are not raking in a paycheck to pay that kind of rent.Top nurse are making money but I am sure she was trying to get money out of him. In Cali where locals stay that is probably a 3/4 month rent.

[Voodoo Jones]

Good to know and thanks for sharing. Planning to use AirBNB the next time I am there during a longer stay and now I know which area to search for.

Taquendama do charge me an equivalent of USD 13 for a visitor at night, but only during nighttime. I am not sure when is their cutoff time is though since I don't have that issue during the daytime.Just to be upfront: I haven't been to Bogota before. I'll going in 1. 5 weeks, but researched it here and other sites over the last couple months.

That said, I stayed away from Santa Fe because I wasn't feeling street walkers. I've had luck online so far and you can always order an escort because they all travel to Chapinero. It's a district with a lot of young professionals and students, so I plan on going to bars and trying my luck too. Another user recommended Tinder because it fits the demographic. I'm in my early 30's, so I think it will help.

[Mtljay]

Is W Bogota girl-friendly, girls are not staying overnight.

[FlashShaker]

Last time I stayed in SMR, there was VAT tax relief that was supposed to expire on Dec 31 2021. Do you recall if you were charged VAT after Jan 1st to take guests to IBIS?I'm sorry but cannot say bec I didn't have anyone stay at Ibis overnight. It was only for daytime play and I went back to my own room to sleep (my hotel was in Rosales) BS Rosales. I highly recommend, its a really excellent hotel but don't know about guest fee.

[FlashShaker]

Just to be upfront: I haven't been to Bogota before. I'll going in 1. 5 weeks, but researched it here and other sites over the last couple months.

That said, I stayed away from Santa Fe because I wasn't feeling street walkers. I've had luck online so far and you can always order an escort because they all travel to Chapinero. It's a district with a lot of young professionals and students, so I plan on going to bars and trying my luck too. Another user recommended Tinder because it fits the demographic. I'm in my early 30's, so I think it will help.Tinder is very slow, if you plan to use it make sure you make backup plans. These girls often just stop responding for hours sometimes (you don't have to wonder why). My last trip I had over 30 matches, took an offer for 50% premium for the 30 days so I tried to reach out to as many as I can. I only met with like 3 of them out of possible 30+. Some are still reaching out to me even today with "donde eres" LOL. My recommendation is to have a chica come to you. It was said before, this way you can make her to take a shower and have a better session. I am beginning to realize I don't like going to their casas. It's cold, musty, tiny, uncomfortable and they don't shower.

[Mr Enternational]

Tinder is very slow, if you plan to use it make sure you make backup plans. These girls often just stop responding for hours sometimes (you don't have to wonder why).I would definitely wonder why, because in my experience they do not respond for weeks, not just hours. Like bich I sent that message 3 months ago when I was in the city.


My last trip I had over 30 matches, took an offer for 50% premium for the 30 days so I tried to reach out to as many as I can. I only met with like 3 of them out of possible 30+.I paid for 1 year of that premium and have not seen any different results than before I paid for it. Waste of money in my case.


Some are still reaching out to me even today with "donde eres" LOL. They are asking where you are from because you are now appearing thousands of miles away.

[Voodoo Jones]

Tinder is very slow, if you plan to use it make sure you make backup plans. These girls often just stop responding for hours sometimes (you don't have to wonder why). My last trip I had over 30 matches, took an offer for 50% premium for the 30 days so I tried to reach out to as many as I can. I only met with like 3 of them out of possible 30+. Some are still reaching out to me even today with "donde eres" LOL. My recommendation is to have a chica come to you. It was said before, this way you can make her to take a shower and have a better session. I am beginning to realize I don't like going to their casas. It's cold, musty, tiny, uncomfortable and they don't shower.Thanks for the tips. I do have prepagos lined up in case everything falls through. It's my first time on this type of trip by myself, so I'm open to trying other avenues and failing (but learning). I also plan on bringing them back to my apartment, which has 24 h security and mandatory sign-in for guests. I heard a few horror stories about the conditions of their casas, especially if they're living with roommates. Sounds like it wouldn't even be worth the money because I wouldn't be able to relax.

[Mtljay]

I am looking for a travel buddy, tour guide and a GF for the two weeks I am in Bogota, I can't speak a word of Spanish (well may be 10 words).

How will you find an English-speaking girl (Not a fluent one) decent-looking? For example the girl in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF9gKGH1eCo.

Tinder, SA, Clubs, Escorts other dating sites. I assume Santa Fe is out of the question.

[DirtyDJ]

Is anyone in town? Want to meet up? I got here last night and finally getting over my altitude sickness. I was thinking about hitting SF or a strip club tonight. Drinks on me.

[Igor54]

Thanks for the tips. I do have prepagos lined up in case everything falls through. It's my first time on this type of trip by myself, so I'm open to trying other avenues and failing (but learning). I also plan on bringing them back to my apartment, which has 24 h security and mandatory sign-in for guests. I heard a few horror stories about the conditions of their casas, especially if they're living with roommates. Sounds like it wouldn't even be worth the money because I wouldn't be able to relax.If you want to relax, try to meditate. Don't listen to horror stories. No one going to kill you. Girls are 100 times better, than any affluent country, where a husband has to make a proposal before fucking his wife. Buy a woodman's consultation and go to Santa Fe.

[Mtljay]

I am looking for a travel buddy, tour guide and a GF for the two weeks I am in Bogota, I can't speak a word of Spanish (well may be 10 words).

How will you find an English-speaking girl (Not a fluent one) decent-looking? For example the girl in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF9gKGH1eCo.

Tinder, SA, Clubs, Escorts other dating sites. I assume Santa Fe is out of the question.Travel buddy, tour guide, and a GF. Not 3 separate people, looking for one person who can do all 3.

[Igor54]

I am looking for a travel buddy, tour guide and a GF for the two weeks I am in Bogota, I can't speak a word of Spanish (well may be 10 words).

How will you find an English-speaking girl (Not a fluent one) decent-looking? For example the girl in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF9gKGH1eCo.

Tinder, SA, Clubs, Escorts other dating sites. I assume Santa Fe is out of the question.No one need your Spanish there. Practice google translator, it's good enough to communicate with girls. #1 Take more money with you.

[Omicron Gamma]

Hi All,

Been 2 years since I've been to Santa Fe, planning to return this year. Can anyone give pricing info on the clubs now? In 2020 a lap dance was 10 k in Atones / Venus vs 30/40 k in Paisas / Feibre. Bottles were $60 USD and girls in lower end clubs would come back to hotel 150 k for 4 hours and in Paisas start at 250 k for the same?

I never got to try the fancy clubs in Zona T but it's be good to know if it's still around 400 k to get girls back?

Many thanks in advance.

OG.

[Voodoo Jones]

If you want to relax, try to meditate. Don't listen to horror stories. No one going to kill you. Girls are 100 times better, than any affluent country, where a husband has to make a proposal before fucking his wife. Buy a woodman's consultation and go to Santa Fe.Oh, I'm not scared or worried in the least bit. The horror stories were disgusting, freezing rooms.

I've done the club scene in DR, it was fun. I just like the fact I can just browse websites in Colombia and find women that look just as good if not better looking. It's more of the novelty than anything. I will still visit bars and maybe a couple clubs in my spare time.

[Mtljay]

If you don't want to use Tinder / SA and also want better-looking girls than what you find in Santa Fe, what are your options?

Also what is "prepagos site?"


My usual trips to Bogota are about 5-7 days only. That's all the time I can spend for now. Personally, I have learned with such a short time frame, don't spend / waste time with Tinder / SA for a variety of reasons most of which have been mentioned here many times. You will spend / waste a lot of valuable time. Tinder, girls can be flaky and be hours late or just no shows. SA, my experience, slightly improved except some girls are not necessarily a guaranteed bang. Other SA issues are time wasted wining and dining or you might find a girl who won't give you what you really want (eg she won't BBBJ but expects to favored / compensated / donated / helped with like 3-500 k pesos). SA in Colombia is sort of infested with pretty much same prepagos working girls.

I've used both and didn't particularly find anyone more interesting than any girls on prepagos site. I, personally, don't use the term 'non-working girls' because if she's banging a stranger and 'expects' to be 'rewarded' for her time she's working. Whether she mentions it or not, it's expected that she will be rewarded. She may not be a pro-hoe but she a hoe hoe. On a personal ex: Met an attorney on SA last time, she wanted a lifestyle well out of her league. She can mostly get it with foreigners so that's why she's on SA. She was very open about her experiences and has had several sugar daddies who flew her to as far as Dubai. She's had something like 10/12 SD's over the last few years..

[Voodoo Jones]

Travel buddy, tour guide, and a GF. Not 3 separate people, looking for one person who can do all 3.That's going to be very difficult to find. Even if the girl wants to meet up, she still has her own life and will have to try to fit you in. Most of the women I've talked to are college students or young professionals who are only available certain days.

[Aureliano16]

Do you guys not like to visit the massages sites? There are like 5 clustered around the CL77-CL80 near the Atlantis mall, and I've always found such amazing hot girls, with huge titties, and many of them with very flat stomachs and great asses because they visit the gym regularly. Prices go from 200 k to 310 k and you can pay additional for BBBJ all of them do it for a fee.

Girls themselves have told me they charge more for foreigners but I don't know how much more.


Travel buddy, tour guide, and a GF. Not 3 separate people, looking for one person who can do all 3.Wow, this sounds like it could be a good business idea. How much would you pay for such a girl?

Take into account almost nobody speaks fluent or even good enough English in Colombia so that girl is surely hard to find.


I went there the other day, to number #14. The girl was Mia, and they said the prices were 100 K for half hour with CBJ, 150 K half hour with FS, 200 K for same for an hour. I read the forum back about 30 pages and I see someone saying that those are gringo prices for Mezzanine, and another saying that it depends on which door. I'm curious what people are paying there. Next time I'll try to negotiate and see what happens. The girl was good looking, but those prices seemed too high. (I'm new to Colombia.)Mezzanines are awful after the pandemic, Girls don't look good for the prices they are asking. I was yesterday in all of them and would only pay to f* one of the girls I saw. There was a skinny girl in one of the mezzanines of the back that really looked underage (or 18 at most) and she was very scared, she was introduced to me as "very new", but what I love from Colombian women are their big tits and asses.

Prices should be 120 k-150 k. If you look gringo they'd probably charge more.

[Voodoo Jones]

If you don't want to use Tinder / SA and also want better-looking girls than what you find in Santa Fe, what are your options?

Also what is "prepagos site?"Prepagos literally means "pre-paid". It's what Colombians call escorts. If you Google the term, you'll find the sites.

I would recommend you have check out those sites before you arrive. In case your other plans don't work out or you have an open day, you call them.

[LatinaLover#1]

Do you guys not like to visit the massages sites? There are like 5 clustered around the CL77-CL80 near the Atlantis mall, and I've always found such amazing hot girls, with huge titties, and many of them with very flat stomachs and great asses because they visit the gym regularly. Prices go from 200 k to 310 k and you can pay additional for BBBJ all of them do it for a fee.

Girls themselves have told me they charge more for foreigners but I don't know how much more.

Wow, this sounds like it could be a good business idea. How much would you pay for such a girl?

Take into account almost nobody speaks fluent or even good enough English in Colombia so that girl is surely hard to find.

Mezzanines are awful after the pandemic, Girls don't look good for the prices they are asking. I was yesterday in all of them and would only pay to f* one of the girls I saw. There was a skinny girl in one of the mezzanines of the back that really looked underage (or 18 at most) and she was very scared, she was introduced to me as "very new", but what I love from Colombian women are their big tits and asses.

Prices should be 120 k-150 k. If you look gringo they'd probably charge more.I haven't been back to Mezz. Since Covid. I had a few good ones there. I still see one hottie, who got married and had a kid, on the side when our schedules align. But, I have never paid more than 100,000 in the Mezz. And only if I found a 8 or above. Sounds like the quality has gone down and the prices are up. It's always a crap shoot at the Mess. Because you never know what you can find behind the 7 or so doors, the girls come and go frequently so you never know when you can stumble on something really fine. However if the quality is down why prices are up, I'd pass. My hotel is in Chico Norte and I have to pass the Mezz. Every time I go to the Casinos in Unicentro Bogota so it's an easy stop in to see what's available. Happy hunting.

[LatinaLover#1]

I'm sorry but cannot say bec I didn't have anyone stay at Ibis overnight. It was only for daytime play and I went back to my own room to sleep (my hotel was in Rosales) BS Rosales. I highly recommend, its a really excellent hotel but don't know about guest fee.I never pay the Vat tax and as far as I know foreigners, are not required to pay it.

[Igor54]

That's going to be very difficult to find. Even if the girl wants to meet up, she still has her own life and will have to try to fit you in. Most of the women I've talked to are college students or young professionals who are only available certain days.Any prostitute has her client database, there are good long-term clients who will always get #1 position in the line of hungry pussy seekers. Even if she say 'yes I will come' and 5 min later a good long-term client will text her, I want to fuck you, she will dump you. And all of them like to introduce themselves as students, nurses, lawyers etc because it works better for some "papi super monger" style men. They pay more money to fuck a student than a prostitute, even if it's the same pussy, just different names.

[Igor54]

My usual trips to Bogota are about 5-7 days only. That's all the time I can spend for now. Personally, I have learned with such a short time frame, don't spend / waste time with Tinder / SA for a variety of reasons most of which have been mentioned here many times. You will spend / waste a lot of valuable time. Tinder, girls can be flaky and be hours late or just no shows. SA, my experience, slightly improved except some girls are not necessarily a guaranteed bang. Other SA issues are time wasted wining and dining or you might find a girl who won't give you what you really want (eg she won't BBBJ but expects to favored / compensated / donated / helped with like 3-500 k pesos). SA in Colombia is sort of infested with pretty much same prepagos working girls.

I've used both and didn't particularly find anyone more interesting than any girls on prepagos site. I, personally, don't use the term 'non-working girls' because if she's banging a stranger and 'expects' to be 'rewarded' for her time she's working. Whether she mentions it or not, it's expected that she will be rewarded. She may not be a pro-hoe but she a hoe hoe. On a personal ex: Met an attorney on SA last time, she wanted a lifestyle well out of her league. She can mostly get it with foreigners so that's why she's on SA. She was very open about her experiences and has had several sugar daddies who flew her to as far as Dubai. She's had something like 10/12 SD's over the last few years..If she's had something like 10/12 SD's over the last few years. You can easy multiply by 10 =120 SD and most likely 10 clients a day and 60 a week.

[Mtljay]

Looking at Airbnb looks like Chapinero area in Bogata is the place to stay? I am not interested in Santa Fe but would like to try out the clubs and also find places where the girl will come back to my Airbnb.

[Voodoo Jones]

Any prostitute has her client database, there are good long-term clients who will always get #1 position in the line of hungry pussy seekers. Even if she say 'yes I will come' and 5 min later a good long-term client will text her, I want to fuck you, she will dump you. And all of them like to introduce themselves as students, nurses, lawyers etc because it works better for some "papi super monger" style men. They pay more money to fuck a student than a prostitute, even if it's the same pussy, just different names.You're not wrong. I understand they're all working girls looking to trade for resources in one way or another. They're mostly in the same range as escorts and the ones who ask significantly more get ignored.

As I mentioned in one of my previous posts, I have more prepagos in mind than I have enough days. So, if everything else falls through, I'll go down the list.

[Quiksilver]

Looking at Airbnb looks like Chapinero area in Bogata is the place to stay? I am not interested in Santa Fe but would like to try out the clubs and also find places where the girl will come back to my Airbnb.Chapinero is a great choice. Centrally located between Santa Fe and Zona Rosa if you feel like going there. I'm in Bogota a lot and Chapinero is my go to. I especially like the La Macarena neighborhood around Plaza del Toro. Relatively safe, quieter with less street traffic than other parts of Chapinero with lots of dining options.

[Pussycat123]

Looking at Airbnb looks like Chapinero area in Bogata is the place to stay? I am not interested in Santa Fe but would like to try out the clubs and also find places where the girl will come back to my Airbnb.Well first of all its a big city.

It seems if you want to visit SF are you are better to stay within walking distance. BD Bacata which is a tower with a bunch of airbnbs is in an OK area and is about 15 minutes walk to SF. The other thing about staying near SF is that its towards the south of the city and 80% of the girls I met online seemed to live in the slums in the South like Kennedy district, so I think staying in the south / SF area is ok for meeting online girls.

If you want to hit casas and the "mezzanine", its further north near Chapinero. I think it would be too far for most of the south city slum girls to travel to.

So my opinion, if you want to hit casas, stay in Chaipnero.

If you want to hit SF and slum girls, stay south.

[Mtljay]

When you say casas, are you referring to clubs such as Paisas, Fiebre, Lidos etc?


Well first of all its a big city.

It seems if you want to visit SF are you are better to stay within walking distance. BD Bacata which is a tower with a bunch of airbnbs is in an OK area and is about 15 minutes walk to SF. The other thing about staying near SF is that its towards the south of the city and 80% of the girls I met online seemed to live in the slums in the South like Kennedy district, so I think staying in the south / SF area is ok for meeting online girls.

If you want to hit casas and the "mezzanine", its further north near Chapinero. I think it would be too far for most of the south city slum girls to travel to.

So my opinion, if you want to hit casas, stay in Chaipnero.

If you want to hit SF and slum girls, stay south.

[Parks292]

Is W Bogota girl-friendly, girls are not staying overnight.W Bogota is awesome and one of my favorite spots in town. It wasn't so much girl friendly and the guest fee was steep. The lounge made up for it, packed with talent.


Tinder is very slow, if you plan to use it make sure you make backup plans. These girls often just stop responding for hours sometimes (you don't have to wonder why). My last trip I had over 30 matches, took an offer for 50% premium for the 30 days so I tried to reach out to as many as I can. I only met with like 3 of them out of possible 30+.Tinder is one of Bogota's best kept secrets. Only one place beats it for tinder and that's Mexico City. Full disclaimer, I am probably quite younger than most and not once, out of hundreds of interactions, have been asked for money on tinder in Bogota. Have met girls from all over, cannot suggest it enough.


Been 2 years since I've been to Santa Fe, planning to return this year. Can anyone give pricing info on the clubs now? In 2020 a lap dance was 10 k in Atones / Venus vs 30/40 k in Paisas / Feibre. Bottles were $60 USD and girls in lower end clubs would come back to hotel 150 k for 4 hours and in Paisas start at 250 k for the same?

I never got to try the fancy clubs in Zona T but it's be good to know if it's still around 400 k to get girls back? OG.Fiebre lapdances are 30 to 50 k. Bottles start at 150+tip. Girls is variable, I've been quoted at high at 150 k for 15 min for the top 2-3 girls at Fiebre and as low as 70 k. Lido was a bit more expensive by Colombian standards: 50 k for my drink and 100 k for the girl's drink, 750 k for 1 h, 250 k for the room.

[Zeos1]

When you say casas, are you referring to clubs such as Paisas, Fiebre, Lidos etc?Search this section of the forum for the term casas. Hundreds if not thousands of threads on what casas are.

[Voodoo Jones]

Lido was a bit more expensive by Colombian standards: 50 k for my drink and 100 k for the girl's drink, 750 k for 1 h, 250 k for the room.That's crazy expensive for 2 drinks and 1 hour. I've been reading the recent reviews of these clubs and it looks like the prices have gone up significantly, while the quality of girls has gone down since the pandemic started.

[Aureliano16]

W Bogota is awesome and one of my favorite spots in town. It wasn't so much girl friendly and the guest fee was steep. The lounge made up for it, packed with talent.

Tinder is one of Bogota's best kept secrets. Only one place beats it for tinder and that's Mexico City. Full disclaimer, I am probably quite younger than most and not once, out of hundreds of interactions, have been asked for money on tinder in Bogota. Have met girls from all over, cannot suggest it enough.You must be also good looking too, or maybe you are blonde and look very gringo. I'm also young but with black hair and tinder in Bogotá has never been effective for me. Only fucked for "free" with 1 girl and then gave up, it's too much work. Also all the matches with hot girls I got were prepagos.


Fiebre lapdances are 30 to 50 k. Bottles start at 150+tip. Girls is variable, I've been quoted at high at 150 k for 15 min for the top 2-3 girls at Fiebre and as low as 70 k. Lido was a bit more expensive by Colombian standards: 50 k for my drink and 100 k for the girl's drink, 750 k for 1 h, 250 k for the room.Lido is a total ripoff. Check google maps reviews. Girls themselves have told me they just go there to overcharge foreigners. If you want to pay that much but at least have a better service I can recommend Loutron Cra. 11 a #98-49, you can even go early in the day and still find gorgeous girls that don't like all the drink and drugs you see at night. Prices are 370 k for 1 hour with any of the girls + tips for the hostess + tips for the cleaning lady, a beer costs 40 k but I've been able to get by just buying a bottle of water for 20 k.

The rooms in Loutron are great, each with private bathroom, a comfortable big, clean bed and a TV. I've been twice there and both have been amazing experiences. The last time, which was this year, I didn't pick the hottest girl just a young very good looking one that smiled me a lot in the presentation. I normally wouldn't pay 370 k just by her looks, but on the room she was amazing. Total GFE from the beginning to the end she told me she loved my dick and let me facefuck her until I gave her tears and she seemed happy about it. She also let me eat her pussy as much as I wanted, and I just loved the youngness in her. In the end I got her phone number and I'm so looking forward for my 2nd "date" with her.

[Mtljay]

So what is the best way to hook up Professionals, Psychologists, Dentists, actresses, models, nurses, Chefs, students in prestigious universities who can speak a little bit of English in Bogotá? I am not into the quick 30 min sex thing in SF, looking for someone to hang out with while I am in Bogotá for more of a GF experience, trying out clubs, restaurants etc.

My ideal girl will be a 8+, college student who can speak some English. I'm happy to spend $1000 on her for the week.

Should I create a profile on Colombia Cupid / SA / Tinder and start chatting with girls? My Spanish is zero. I am only in Bogotá for 5 days.

Thanks.


A vast amount of the girls I see never mention money But if your in SF or Pussyhouse or mezzanine for that mater, price will always be discussed. Most of my girls have a job, are professional. Psychologists, Dentists, actresses, models, nurses, Chefs, students in prestige universities. Bringing a few inexpensive gifts like VS lotion, some lingerie, a toy for her kid. This has been working for me for years. It puts the relation on a different level. Most of the time I get girl.

Friend sex, not pro sex for an hour. I was accused by one newbie on this site of lying because I get BBBJ because he could not make it happen. Some guys like the 40 min pay as you go service in places like SF or Vila Mimosa if that's your thing, go for it but the venues are very different and if you treat a educated, professional girl better and let her save face by not treating her like working girl BEFORE you get in bed the experience can be over the top. This type of mongering is not for everybody, this thread has been hijacked, for the most part by the SF crowd and that's ok some guys want quantity, some guys GF session. Most times I go out to dinner with my girl after playtime. Maybe not your thing, There is an ass for every seat. Happy Trails.

[Woodman09]

When you say casas, are you referring to clubs such as Paisas, Fiebre, Lidos etc?All those you refer to are clubs. Casas are daytime brothels.

[Nounce]

When you say casas, are you referring to clubs such as Paisas, Fiebre, Lidos etc?Casas are brothels.

[Voodoo Jones]

So what is the best way to hook up Professionals, Psychologists, Dentists, actresses, models, nurses, Chefs, students in prestigious universities who can speak a little bit of English in Bogot? I am not into the quick 30 min sex thing in SF, looking for someone to hang out with while I am in Bogot for more of a GF experience, trying out clubs, restaurants etc.

My ideal girl will be a 8+, college student who can speak some English. I'm happy to spend $1000 on her for the week.

Should I create a profile on Colombia Cupid / SA / Tinder and start chatting with girls? My Spanish is zero. I am only in Bogot for 5 days..I'll be in Bogota this week and have been using SA for the last few weeks. If you want to find professionals, it's probably your best bet, but keep in mind many of these women are lying about their occupations. Think about it: how can a professional spend all week with you on short notice? Maybe offering $1,000 will work, but you should have contingency plans.

I've scheduled a few dates with women I found on SA. Like you, I want to try out restaurants and the prices are cheap anyway. Right now, it's single dates because I want to see if they're worth it. That said, I have a list of escorts I will call in case these plans fall through or I have some open time.

Also, as it's mentioned many times already, but most women do not speak English. If they do, they're probably escorts who learned it so they can attract foreigners. I would also avoid any woman who gives you a price in USD for that same reason. One girl wanted me to pay $360 for a threesome with her friend. Hard pass.

[Mr Enternational]

So what is the best way to hook up Professionals, Psychologists, Dentists, actresses, models, nurses, Chefs, students in prestigious universities who can speak a little bit of English in Bogot? I am not into the quick 30 min sex thing in SF, looking for someone to hang out with while I am in Bogot for more of a GF experience, trying out clubs, restaurants etc.How do you do it at home? Try the same way, except I would not bank on them speaking English.

[Pussycat123]

When you say casas, are you referring to clubs such as Paisas, Fiebre, Lidos etc?"Casas" aka Casa de cita, are basically brothels. You walk in, there is some kind of line up, you go to a room and have sex.

As for "Clubs", although I've never been in the places you mention, in my understanding they look like normal night clubs but they are full of hookers.

As far as I know, Paisas and Fiebre are "Clubs" that are located in Santa Fe, but I don't think there are many (or any?) straight up casas / brothels in Santa Fe. However, up in Chapinero there are dozens of casas in places like the "Mezzanine".

Somewhere on this board is a google map of many of the casas in Bog. It might be outdated but if gives you an idea.

[Pussycat123]

Someone commented that Tinder in Bog is a gold mine full of free pussy. Well, all I can say is that I used Tinder once during a trip last summer and it was ok. You have the hassle of not being able to search for the girls you like, you just have to "like" them and hope they like you. Plus, the matches dry up after a while because Tinder is trying to upsell you to a more expensive subscription.

In my case, 100% of my matches on Tinder wanted to get paid, either right away, or they were clearly angling for a financially supportive relationship.

I also use Seeking but the truth is I don't like apps. I wish I could get away from them as I don't like to be dependent on them. They are convenient though. I like to think I could use my first class day game (LOL) to meet girls, but as my Spanish sucks and I'm only in Bog a few days at a time, it seems like it wouldnt be that easy.

[Aquarius1981]

Hello,

I will be traveling to Bogota in the next few or so. I'm looking for some of the best Agency and Independent websites in town. Anyone please DM me or post websites names. I will greatly appreciate it.

[FlashShaker]

Someone commented that Tinder in Bog is a gold mine full of free pussy. Well, all I can say is that I used Tinder once during a trip last summer and it was ok. You have the hassle of not being able to search for the girls you like, you just have to "like" them and hope they like you. Plus, the matches dry up after a while because Tinder is trying to upsell you to a more expensive subscription.

In my case, 100% of my matches on Tinder wanted to get paid, either right away, or they were clearly angling for a financially supportive relationship.

I also use Seeking but the truth is I don't like apps. I wish I could get away from them as I don't like to be dependent on them. They are convenient though. I like to think I could use my first class day game (LOL) to meet girls, but as my Spanish sucks and I'm only in Bog a few days at a time, it seems like it wouldnt be that easy.Well, yes, of course Tinder works in Bogota. Is it a gold mine of free pussy? I guess that depends. I have been able to bang girls I've met on Tinder (only twice) and not made a direct exchange for cash. Though I did have to take both out to dinner + drinks at a bar before going back to the hotel. So, in a way, I paid for it regardless. You can always get 'free' pussy if you have the time, a luxury that most people lack.

This is my conclusion, IMHO.

Cupid sites = full of girls looking to meet foreigners to milk for $ while they "wait for them to come visit". They are talking to, getting money from and fucking multiple guys.

Tinder / Bumble = Same girls looking for a foreigner who's local to milk. They don't want to think of themselves as prostitutes but selling sex just not on prepagos sites.

SA = Same girls looking for foreigners they can milk for more bec now you claiming to be well off. They don't want to think of themselves as prostitutes, present themselves as professionals (pro liars more like it). I find their favorite profession is 'psicologia'. Yes, they are looking for money / transactional sex but now they can charge triple bec you bought into the illusion.

Prepagos = Admitted prostitutes that are also on all the other sites.

Are there exceptions, well, of course but this is my take on it by and large. As I said before, if you have limited time and want to bang many different girls, just accept the transactional sex and keep it moving. These girls aren't in love with you or your the! Ck. You just might be the 9th or 10th dick they are sucking that day LOL. Believe me, have had that experience in my rookie days but whew those days are behind me.

On another note, I recently got back from my 6th Colombian trip since Jan'21 and it was the fourth time I've won the lottery for secondary inspection right boarding the plane. So fukkin annoying'.

[Mtljay]

I was wondering why Colombia has so much shrinks.


SA = Same girls looking for foreigners they can milk for more bec now you claiming to be well off. They don't want to think of themselves as prostitutes, present themselves as professionals (pro liars more like it). I find their favorite profession is 'psicologia'. Yes, they are looking for money / transactional sex but now they can charge triple bec you bought into the illusion.

[Igor54]

Well, yes, of course Tinder works in Bogota. Is it a gold mine of free pussy? I guess that depends. I have been able to bang girls I've met on Tinder (only twice) and not made a direct exchange for cash. Though I did have to take both out to dinner + drinks at a bar before going back to the hotel. So, in a way, I paid for it regardless. You can always get 'free' pussy if you have the time, a luxury that most people lack.

This is my conclusion, IMHO.

Cupid sites = full of girls looking to meet foreigners to milk for $ while they "wait for them to come visit". They are talking to, getting money from and fucking multiple guys.

Tinder / Bumble = Same girls looking for a foreigner who's local to milk. They don't want to think of themselves as prostitutes but selling sex just not on prepagos sites.

SA = Same girls looking for foreigners they can milk for more bec now you claiming to be well off. They don't want to think of themselves as prostitutes, present themselves as professionals (pro liars more like it). I find their favorite profession is 'psicologia'. Yes, they are looking for money / transactional sex but now they can charge triple bec you bought into the illusion..The best practice is to say I want to be the first client or I will not pay. In this case they just don't reply to your texting. No one of them will say" you are the 10th dick today.

[Igor54]

Hello,

I will be traveling to Bogota in the next few or so. I'm looking for some of the best Agency and Independent websites in town. Anyone please DM me or post websites names. I will greatly appreciate it.What do you mean by independent websites? Do you think, there there are special pussies? Probably your expectations are to high.

[Mtljay]

I will be traveling in a few months been creating a list based on posts here. Can someone please comment on which one is good and which one is scams? I am happy to maintain an updated list.

Escort Providers.

Erotica Bogata https://eroticasbogota.com/modelos/bogota/.

Lacelestina https://lacelestina.co/.

Encounter VIP https://www.encountersvip.com/prepagosbogota?lang=en.

Solita http://solitasparati.com/9/.

Passion https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/bogota.

Paradise Escort https://escortsbogota.co/.

Mmodelosalacarta https://modelosalacarta.com/escorts-de-lujo-y-chicas-prepagos-en-bogota/ (The prices are more expensive than US).

Elsilencio https://bogota.elsilencio.co/.

Escort Directory.

https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/bogota

https://co.mundosexanuncio.com/

https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/bogota/

https://co.mileroticos.com/

https://www.photoprepagos.com/


Hello,

I will be traveling to Bogota in the next few or so. I'm looking for some of the best Agency and Independent websites in town. Anyone please DM me or post websites names. I will greatly appreciate it.

[DriftClouds]

Well, yes, of course Tinder works in Bogota. Is it a gold mine of free pussy? I guess that depends. I have been able to bang girls I've met on Tinder (only twice) and not made a direct exchange for cash. Though I did have to take both out to dinner + drinks at a bar before going back to the hotel. So, in a way, I paid for it regardless. You can always get 'free' pussy if you have the time, a luxury that most people lack.

This is my conclusion, IMHO.

Cupid sites = full of girls looking to meet foreigners to milk for $ while they "wait for them to come visit". They are talking to, getting money from and fucking multiple guys.

Tinder / Bumble = Same girls looking for a foreigner who's local to milk. They don't want to think of themselves as prostitutes but selling sex just not on prepagos sites.

SA = Same girls looking for foreigners they can milk for more bec now you claiming to be well off. They don't want to think of themselves as prostitutes, present themselves as professionals (pro liars more like it). I find their favorite profession is 'psicologia'. Yes, they are looking for money / transactional sex but now they can charge triple bec you bought into the illusion..Are the subscription on Tinder and colombiancupid cheapter than the United app store? I find those dating apps subscription ridiculously expensive.

[OJeito]

This report On Bogota is about a month late as I'm in Rio de Janeiro at the moment but I have some time to recollect on my time spent in Bogota as I wait in the hotel lobby for my room to be properly prepared before my late night intentions become reality as I plan to soil the sheets with strange exotic pussy juices that I will most certainly will be on the hunt for come sundown.

I must admit that Colombia holds a special place in my heart. Usually I prefer to spend my time in Medellin for a multitude of reasons but this time I chose to stay solely in Bogota my initial experience into barrio Santa Fe for an all out 5 day pussy bender.

This would be my second stay in Bogota. 4 years prior, I arrived in the city on the tail end of a month long journey traveling around the country in tourist / monger mode. Somewhere along the way I caught the clap and my stay in Bogota was severely effected by this sub gnarly funky brew dripping from the tip of my cock. I was a self imposed sexual benched player and officially out of sexual commission until I could get things back to normal function. Now Catching the clap in a place like Colombia where you are constantly surrounded by scores of young, beautiful and available Colombianas is an absolute nightmare scenario to endure. Actually Its pure torture! It's like going on a beach vacation and forgetting to pack your bag or going on a hunting expedition only to discover you left your gun and ammo at home. Basically it all adds up to a complete waste of time if sex is your favorite item on the menu and furthermore, getting the clap absolutely sucks as some of you hardcore mongers already know all too well. There's nothing pleasant about it. I'll go ahead and stop with the gruesome details right there and continue on.

Now Fast forward 4 years and I'm back in Bogota with a clean bill of heath! I decided a short stopover in Bogota would be a perfect opportunity to break up my long journey to Brazil, which is a country I would much rather roam about but that's another story for another time.

In Bogota, I strategically booked a hotel on the south end of the city at the girl friendly Tequendama suites which is only a short 10-15 minute walk away from the red light tolerance zone of Santa Fe! To my surprise there were an over abundance of both Colombian and Venezuelan street girls willing to participate in quick sexual encounters for less than 10 usd for around 30 minutes of pleasure. The variety of girls is truly amazing. Almost like a box of crayons, there is every shade on display. To quote a popular rap group from the 80's, "they got more flavors than fruit stripe gum!" There is something for everybody's taste whether you prefer flaquitas, gorditas, white girls, brown, afro and everything in between. You name it and it's there.

I was looking forward to exploring the famous la piscina only to find out that it was currently closed for pool renovations. There's a small bar directly across the street run by a former la piscina employee. A Super cool and accommodating Venezuelan guy named Alejandro with perfect English. This tiny spot was my bar of choice and served as a perfect locale to get the evening started.

I can confirm other reports that fiebre and troya have the hottest girls at the moment. If you're chasing quality there's really no need to look elsewhere. There are diamonds in the rough if you're considering the street girls. I saw a few vennies that I knew from Medellin that used to hang around Vera Cruz in centro. I couldn't get a straight answer as to why they moved to Santa Fe where they were obviously making less money but really it was none of my business. I noticed far less pimps and boyfriends than I normally see when I'm roaming around el centro in Medellin which is always a plus. I'm sure they are close by and not completely out of sight. Like others, I don't like being in their close proximity. I will add that if you walk a block too far to the south end of Santa Fe you will most certainly run into an interesting breed of woman who aren't woman after all if you catch my drift. Many bro-working girls are on the prowl so watch out unless that's your thing.

All in all I had a great time in Santa Fe. 5 days might be too long. If I had it to do over again I'd probably shorten it to 3 or 4 max. I realize everybody is different and some mongers could post up there for weeks at a time but to each their own.

[Ryck II]

"Casas" aka Casa de cita, are basically brothels. You walk in, there is some kind of line up, you go to a room and have sex.

As for "Clubs", although I've never been in the places you mention, in my understanding they look like normal night clubs but they are full of hookers.

As far as I know, Paisas and Fiebre are "Clubs" that are located in Santa Fe, but I don't think there are many (or any?) straight up casas / brothels in Santa Fe. However, up in Chapinero there are dozens of casas in places like the "Mezzanine".

Somewhere on this board is a google map of many of the casas in Bog. It might be outdated but if gives you an idea.I disagree on the part about the "clubs" looking lime normal night clubs. Places like fiebre or paisas have a long "catwalk" where girls do a striptease show. Some go beyond just getting naked and end up inserting dildos or other things in their vaginas or somewhere else. Sometimes they do threesomes and sometimes a guy from the audience is invited for a blowjob or even a short fuck session. Those clubs normally have a second and third floor with rooms where you can fuck the hookers. Some of those girls even live in those rooms. Some have a VIP area where you can get a lap dance.

[MadMax9336]

This report On Bogota is about a month late as I'm in Rio de Janeiro at the moment but I have some time to recollect on my time spent in Bogota as I wait in the hotel lobby for my room to be properly prepared before my late night intentions become reality as I plan to soil the sheets with strange exotic pussy juices that I will most certainly will be on the hunt for come sundown.

I must admit that Colombia holds a special place in my heart. Usually I prefer to spend my time in Medellin for a multitude of reasons but this time I chose to stay solely in Bogota my initial experience into barrio Santa Fe for an all out 5 day pussy bender.

This would be my second stay in Bogota. 4 years prior, I arrived in the city on the tail end of a month long journey traveling around the country in tourist / monger mode. Somewhere along the way I caught the clap and my stay in Bogota was severely effected by this sub gnarly funky brew dripping from the tip of my cock. I was a self imposed sexual benched player and officially out of sexual commission until I could get things back to normal function. Now Catching the clap in a place like Colombia where you are constantly surrounded by scores of young, beautiful and available Colombianas is an absolute nightmare scenario to endure. Actually Its pure torture! It's like going on a beach vacation and forgetting to pack your bag or going on a hunting expedition only to discover you left your gun and ammo at home. Basically it all adds up to a complete waste of time if sex is your favorite item on the menu and furthermore, getting the clap absolutely sucks as some of you hardcore mongers already know all too well. There's nothing pleasant about it. I'll go ahead and stop with the gruesome details right there and continue on.

Now Fast forward 4 years and I'm back in Bogota with a clean bill of heath! I decided a short stopover in Bogota would be a perfect opportunity to break up my long journey to Brazil, which is a country I would much rather roam about but that's another story for another time.

In Bogota, I strategically booked a hotel on the south end of the city at the girl friendly Tequendama suites which is only a short 10-15 minute walk away from the red light tolerance zone of Santa Fe! To my surprise there were an over abundance of both Colombian and Venezuelan street girls willing to participate in quick sexual encounters for less than 10 usd for around 30 minutes of pleasure. The variety of girls is truly amazing. Almost like a box of crayons, there is every shade on display. To quote a popular rap group from the 80's, "they got more flavors than fruit stripe gum!" There is something for everybody's taste whether you prefer flaquitas, gorditas, white girls, brown, afro and everything in between. You name it and it's there..Thanks for the TR and this is what makes me not to go BBFS despite how tempting it is but not worth the stress of visiting doc back home and hiding to wife.

I am coming for the firs time to Colombia this weekend. One day / night in Cartagena, 5 day / nights in Medellin and then 1 night in Bogota before heading home.

Both Cartagena and Medellin itinerary is kind of sorted out and now its turn to focus on Bogota to have one last night before heading to north pole.

I was debating to take the hotel near airport with free shuttle either from Hilton or Marriott as I have points to burn (2 year of sitting at home) before they expire. But after reading your report. I guess I will look into Tequendama suits as price seems to be reasonable ($50) for luxury suite which has separate living room which is the most convenient for two people when one is banging chica in room and the other can be busy in living room.

But we are landing around 3 pm and have plans to visit Monseratte which seems to be close to this hotel.

The question is this hotel allows any number of guests and any number of times (of course me and my friend will bring each girl, either we will swap or go out bring two more) in the night?

If not, am I better off to stick to JW Marriott and relax and come to Santa Fe for quick action using the short term rental or casa.

BTW any one recently tried this casa? Calle73, Calle67 next to Figaro Barbershop. It's a white door.

[Pussycat123]

W

Tinder / Bumble = Same girls looking for a foreigner who's local to milk. They don't want to think of themselves as prostitutes but selling sex just not on prepagos sites.

S'.Is Bumble similar to Tinder? Do you need to have a paid subscription to get action? I'm interested in using Bumble in Bog and Mexico.

[Aquarius1981]

What do you mean by independent websites? Do you think, there there are special pussies? Probably your expectations are to high.No, sir! I do not think "there or (their) are special pussies" what I mean is that there are websites where independent women can post ADs and there are websites from / are agencies. My apologies for any confusion. Honestly IMO I really like agencies be / see their women are on time and kinda professional and if there is a problem hopefully they can resolve any issues. I have been mongering all over the world, but not in South America. So, yes I have kinda have high expectations due to my track record. Thank you for your reply I really appreciate it.

[Aquarius1981]

I will be traveling in a few months been creating a list based on posts here. Can someone please comment on which one is good and which one is scams? I am happy to maintain an updated list.

Escort Providers.

Erotica Bogata https://eroticasbogota.com/modelos/bogota/.

Lacelestina https://lacelestina.co/.

Encounter VIP https://www.encountersvip.com/prepagosbogota?lang=en.

Solita http://solitasparati.com/9/.

Passion https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/bogota.

Paradise Escort https://escortsbogota.co/.

Mmodelosalacarta https://modelosalacarta.com/escorts-de-lujo-y-chicas-prepagos-en-bogota/ (The prices are more expensive than US).WOW, I must say. Great work! Many of theses websites I have taken note and briefly looked over their clientele and have target a few ladies of interest. Please DM so we can talk if you want.

[Mr Enternational]

Is Bumble similar to Tinder? Yes it is similar to Tinder, but when you match females have to send the first message to males.

[Mtljay]

Anyone know how to get a Colombia number before you arrive in Colombia? Apple phones support Duel SIM, so the 2nd one has to be a eSim.

[Igor54]

I will be traveling in a few months been creating a list based on posts here. Can someone please comment on which one is good and which one is scams? I am happy to maintain an updated list.

Escort Providers.

Erotica Bogata https://eroticasbogota.com/modelos/bogota/.

Lacelestina https://lacelestina.co/.

Encounter VIP https://www.encountersvip.com/prepagosbogota?lang=en.

Solita http://solitasparati.com/9/.

You should understand that agency is someone who own a website and have some phone numbers of some prostitutes. and maybe some pics are real but most likly not. They are just fishing for clients to get their cut for the phone number. As soon as you text them they start to look for an available girl. Big advertising sites .... many pics are facke.

Passion https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/bogota.

Paradise Escort https://escortsbogota.co/.These are just websites, no girls. They have a database of prostitutes and start to look for an available one as soon as you text them. Big add sites are. As usual a lot of fake pics, I think more than 70%.

[Ggekko2009]

I will be traveling in a few months been creating a list based on posts here. Can someone please comment on which one is good and which one is scams? I am happy to maintain an updated list.

Escort Providers.

Erotica Bogata https://eroticasbogota.com/modelos/bogota/.

Lacelestina https://lacelestina.co/.

Encounter VIP https://www.encountersvip.com/prepagosbogota?lang=en.

Solita http://solitasparati.com/9/.

Passion https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/bogota.

Paradise Escort https://escortsbogota.co/.

Mmodelosalacarta https://modelosalacarta.com/escorts-de-lujo-y-chicas-prepagos-en-bogota/ (The prices are more expensive than US).

Elsilencio https://bogota.elsilencio.co/.

Escort Directory.

https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/bogota

https://co.mundosexanuncio.com/

https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/bogota/

https://co.mileroticos.com/

https://www.photoprepagos.com/I can only speak for the escort service that I have used which is Erotica Bogota. Most of the girls from that agency were good and I enjoyed their services. There were reports from other members recommending them too.

Girls from mileroticos could be a hit or miss. Some of their photos could be photoshopped to look better that they do and past their prime.

[Voodoo Jones]

I was debating to take the hotel near airport with free shuttle either from Hilton or Marriott as I have points to burn (2 year of sitting at home) before they expire. But after reading your report. I guess I will look into Tequendama suits as price seems to be reasonable ($50) for luxury suite which has separate living room which is the most convenient for two people when one is banging chica in room and the other can be busy in living room.If you're referring to the Hilton or Marriott in Chapinero, they charge for bringing guests to your room. Most international hotel chains in the city will charge you each time and won't let you bring more than 1 guest. I opted for an apartment rental off Airbnb because you can bring someone to your apartment for no charge for a few hours, but they do charge $10 if they stay overnight (which I will not be doing, but is a very fair price).


The question is this hotel allows any number of guests and any number of times (of course me and my friend will bring each girl, either we will swap or go out bring two more) in the night?Because you're going this weekend, I would recommend you just email or call them instead of hoping someone will answer in time. I tell them I'm visiting on business and would need to have coworkers stop by my place. That's how I found out the Hilton and Marriott in Chapinero charge.

[GringoItaliano]

Feel free to hit me up via PM if you are in town and would like to meet up.

[OJeito]

Thanks for the TR and this is what makes me not to go BBFS despite how tempting it is but not worth the stress of visiting doc back home and hiding to wife.FYI, I'm 100% positive that I caught the clap from a BBBJ so it's also something to consider if you are hiding your sexual activities from a loved one back home. Wrap it up at your own discretion!

[Mtljay]

Do they charge if I take someone to my room for a few hours? Or is this just overnight?


If you're referring to the Hilton or Marriott in Chapinero, they charge for bringing guests to your room. Most international hotel chains in the city will charge you each time and won't let you bring more than 1 guest. I opted for an apartment rental off Airbnb because you can bring someone to your apartment for no charge for a few hours, but they do charge $10 if they stay overnight (which I will not be doing, but is a very fair price).

Because you're going this weekend, I would recommend you just email or call them instead of hoping someone will answer in time. I tell them I'm visiting on business and would need to have coworkers stop by my place. That's how I found out the Hilton and Marriott in Chapinero charge.

[Golfinho]

I guess I will look into Tequendama suits as price seems to be reasonable ($50) for luxury suite which has separate living room which is the most convenient for two people when one is banging chica in room and the other can be busy in living room..If you (or anyone else) stays at the Tequendama, and you actually get a room that has updated windows that gets no street noise, please share the room number. We like the location, the grand old style, and the fact that it's frequently half deserted, but after our last stay, it'll be never again unless it's double-pane windows.

[OJeito]

If you (or anyone else) stays at the Tequendama, and you actually get a room that has updated windows that gets no street noise, please share the room number. We like the location, the grand old style, and the fact that it's frequently half deserted, but after our last stay, it'll be never again unless it's double-pane windows.After reading multiple negative reports on the living conditions at the Tequendama hotel, I took other bm'ers advice and shelled out an extra 15 usd per night and booked my stay at the Tequendama suites which is a 2-3 minute walk away. I highly recommend it too!

[Igor54]

Anyone know how to get a Colombia number before you arrive in Colombia? Apple phones support Duel SIM, so the 2nd one has to be a eSim.Try amazon, maybe they sell something, maybe skype sells Colombian # or just google who sells online phone # there are some companies.

[Igor54]

I can only speak for the escort service that I have used which is Erotica Bogota. Most of the girls from that agency were good and I enjoyed their services. There were reports from other members recommending them too.

Girls from mileroticos could be a hit or miss. Some of their photos could be photoshopped to look better that they do and past their prime.In my experience with Erotica Bogota, I am looking at the same pics for 4-5 years, and I've never had a girl that they advertised. They are fishing for gringo clients who can pay more than average price for just any available girl. In addition, I had a problem with their site. When I texted them and didn't buy a girl from them, they reported my 'one day old sim card' to somewhere and when I have tried to book a girl from prepagos.com she said that my phone # has bad reviews.

[Voodoo Jones]

Do they charge if I take someone to my room for a few hours? Or is this just overnight?You must pay for any guest that goes to your room for those 2 chains in Chapinero, so matter how long.

In other news, I just landed in Bogota a couple hours ago and am here for a week. I'll write up a full report once I'm headed back home.

[Mtljay]

Let me know what you find about a hotel. I like to stay at a nice hotel that will check the ID of the guest (Just for my safety).


You must pay for any guest that goes to your room for those 2 chains in Chapinero, so matter how long.

In other news, I just landed in Bogota a couple hours ago and am here for a week. I'll write up a full report once I'm headed back home.

[Voodoo Jones]

Let me know what you find about a hotel. I like to stay at a nice hotel that will check the ID of the guest (Just for my safety).Pretty much every hotel or apartment rental require every guest to show ID and sign in even if they don't charge a fee.

According to a couple people in this thread, the only places that won't are private apartments being leased out on Airbnb, but this isn't always true either.

[MadMax9336]

After reading multiple negative reports on the living conditions at the Tequendama hotel, I took other bm'ers advice and shelled out an extra 15 usd per night and booked my stay at the Tequendama suites which is a 2-3 minute walk away. I highly recommend it too!Thanks for the tip on the Tequendama suites and I did not know another hotel with similar name exists.

Quick question. I don't recall you answered that did they charged for guests? Like even few hours or over night.

Another thing is we are two people and are these suites are well versed to have both of us have privacy (semi) to have our sessions separately?

Is this the location that you are referring to Located in: International center Bodybrite.

Address: Cra. 10 #27-51, Bogota, Cundinamarca, Colombia.

[MadMax9336]

You must pay for any guest that goes to your room for those 2 chains in Chapinero, so matter how long.

In other news, I just landed in Bogota a couple hours ago and am here for a week. I'll write up a full report once I'm headed back home.That would be awesome I am landing on 19th early morning but immediately heading to Cartagena then to Medellin.

But will be back to Bogota on 25th afternoon to catch our return flight the next day.

For now I will not book even the Tequendama suites until your report.

Hope to see your report before my trip commences. Tried sending a msg but looks like you blocked receiving msg.

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[MadMax9336]

You must pay for any guest that goes to your room for those 2 chains in Chapinero, so matter how long.

In other news, I just landed in Bogota a couple hours ago and am here for a week. I'll write up a full report once I'm headed back home.I heard from some other member that JW Marriott Chapinero is chica friendly but I ruled out for the elite status I have is no guarantee to get the suite upgrade which is inconvenient for two people bringing chica.

Probably my best is so far Tequendama suites as they are reasonable at price point of view and have bedroom and living room and close to the centre of action.

Or.

Take the Hilton or Marriott near airport (as we are staying only night) and stoll around Santa Fe for gems. If nothing available for our taste then try out the casa mentioned by another member at: Calle73, Calle67 next to Figaro Barbershop. It's a white door, just go inside, hit the buzze 30 m-80 k.

Will wait for your report before I pull the trigger of booking the accommodation.

[Mtljay]

Where I live, the going rate is USD 200 an hour. My default agency is https://www.escortsxo.com/models . The good news is these are good-looking girls, reputable agencies and the girls speak English. The bad news is that the rate does not go down, for example, if I want the girl for 5 hours, it's 1000 USD and the girls will not do deals outside of the agency.

If you want the 8-10 in looks girl, what are your options in Bogota?

SA / Tinder.

Escort Agency.

Brothels / Strip clubs (Lido, Paisas Fiebre).

Going to a club and picking up a girl will not work for me, I do not speak Spanish much and I am old.

[World Travel 69]

Call this one and ask them.

Central Chapinero.

Calle 61 #7-18, Bogotá, Cundinamarca, Colombia.

+57 601 7449999.

www.viaggio617.com


Let me know what you find about a hotel. I like to stay at a nice hotel that will check the ID of the guest (Just for my safety).

[Mtljay]

JW Marriott Chapinero is around $200 a night.


I heard from some other member that JW Marriott Chapinero is chica friendly but I ruled out for the elite status I have is no guarantee to get the suite upgrade which is inconvenient for two people bringing chica.

[MadMax9336]

Call this one and ask them.

Central Chapinero.

Calle 61 #7-18, Bogot, Cundinamarca, Colombia.

+57 601 7449999.

www.viaggio617.comJust booked Tequendama suites after reading thru other members feedback.

Do you think is much better? I only need for one night and just wanted to have hassle free chica entry of course don't wanted to sneak them without verifying the ID at front desk.

My only concerns is we are two guys and if we bring two girls? Will they allow or not. If they allow how much do they charge in general?

[Pussycat123]

. If nothing available for our taste then try out the casa mentioned by another member at: Calle73, Calle67 next to Figaro Barbershop. It's a white door, just go inside, hit the buzze 30 m-80 k.

Will wait for your report before I pull the trigger of booking the accommodation.Can you clarify the adress, I searched on google maps, couldn't find it. Maybe a typo?

[Aureliano16]

Where I live, the going rate is USD 200 an hour. My default agency is https://www.escortsxo.com/models . The good news is these are good-looking girls, reputable agencies and the girls speak English. The bad news is that the rate does not go down, for example, if I want the girl for 5 hours, it's 1000 USD and the girls will not do deals outside of the agency.

If you want the 8-10 in looks girl, what are your options in Bogota?

SA / Tinder.

Escort Agency.

Brothels / Strip clubs (Lido, Paisas Fiebre).

Going to a club and picking up a girl will not work for me, I do not speak Spanish much and I am old.SA / Tinder won't work for if you won't stay long time and especially if you don't speak Spanish.

Escort agencies are hit or miss, many times they send whoever is available at the moment and not the girl you specifically asked for. Sometimes they do send the girl but her pictures were from 5 years ago and with a lot of photoshop. And of course, if you are in your lucky day, sometimes they do send the girl and she looks even better that in pictures.

Lido is a ripoff, don't go there, check their google map reviews and check other comments in this forum, they charge 750 k for the girl + 250 k for the room, that's extremely expensive for Colombia and most of the girls that work there also work in other places charging 50% less.

Your best bet IMO is going to a brothel where you can see a presentation of all the girls and you get to pick. They won't speak English but they will be able to communicate with you using google translate. I can recommend 2 sites in Bogota for 8-10 girls:

One is Loutron Cra. 11 a #98-49, prices here are 370 k + tips for the hostess + beverages. Expect to pay more for not speaking Spanish, but the girls are very good looking. You find most girls at the evening after 6 PM.

The other one is Absolut Spa Cra. 16 #80-66 this is a massages house, but all the girls fuck, they even don't like when a customer only wants the massage. Here the price is 310 k and most girls will offer you BBBJ for a fee. What I love about this place is that as long as it is open you will always find plenty of good looking girls even if you go let's say at 10 AM.

When will you be arriving? I could go with you to one of these places if you'd like.

[Mr Enternational]

Can you clarify the adress, I searched on google maps, couldn't find it. Maybe a typo?Here you go.

[Elvis 2008]

Where I live, the going rate is USD 200 an hour. My default agency is https://www.escortsxo.com/models . The good news is these are good-looking girls, reputable agencies and the girls speak English. The bad news is that the rate does not go down, for example, if I want the girl for 5 hours, it's 1000 USD and the girls will not do deals outside of the agency.

If you want the 8-10 in looks girl, what are your options in Bogota?

SA / Tinder.

Escort Agency.

Brothels / Strip clubs (Lido, Paisas Fiebre).

Going to a club and picking up a girl will not work for me, I do not speak Spanish much and I am old.Mtl, I would do a Santa Fe tour with Woodman. I think he can find you an 8 in one of the clubs or maybe on the street (less likely). Fucking there is cheap. If you find someone you like, you can negotiate a longer term deal, and I bet you can get it for under $200 or even $100 easy.

SA probably has the hottest women I met in Bogota, but it is a lot of work to find them. The girls I met were higher class in general, and I enjoyed hanging out with them, but they want more money and you get no showed a bunch in the beginning. I would not do that unless you have a lot of time.

[MadMax9336]

Can you clarify the adress, I searched on google maps, couldn't find it. Maybe a typo?I don't know as I noted from the below post who has an excellent report.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2557406&highlight=Figaro+Barbershop#post2557406.

Probably some one down there can confirm this location or aware of this place.

[MadMax9336]

Here you go.Thank you. Just checked google earth. But don't see any white gate as mentioned in the post.

Can any one reconfirm this DP who has visited recently?

[FlashShaker]

Where I live, the going rate is USD 200 an hour. My default agency is https://www.escortsxo.com/models . The good news is these are good-looking girls, reputable agencies and the girls speak English. The bad news is that the rate does not go down, for example, if I want the girl for 5 hours, it's 1000 USD and the girls will not do deals outside of the agency.

If you want the 8-10 in looks girl, what are your options in Bogota?

SA / Tinder.

Escort Agency.

Brothels / Strip clubs (Lido, Paisas Fiebre).

Going to a club and picking up a girl will not work for me, I do not speak Spanish much and I am old.You can find 8 & 8. 5 on all the options you mentioned. SA / Tinder will swallow your valuable time. You can try to Escorts Agencies but as it has been said before there are no guarantees. On most of the escorts sites, the girls faces are blurred anyway so you really are getting that cat in the bag. You can find some real gems in the casas too and Santa Fe. No matter which route, you got to put in some work, sorry there's no point and click but boy do I wish.

[Voodoo Jones]

That would be awesome I am landing on 19th early morning but immediately heading to Cartagena then to Medellin.

But will be back to Bogota on 25th afternoon to catch our return flight the next day.

For now I will not book even the Tequendama suites until your report.

Hope to see your report before my trip commences. Tried sending a msg but looks like you blocked receiving msg.You can't message me because I didn't have time to pay for the forum membership, but will do so sometime after I get back. But to answer your question, I'm staying at an apartment rental across the street from the Hilton Doubletree in Chapinero. Look on Airbnb and you'll find it.

They do not charge for guests unless they're staying overnight. I really like the area and am satisfied with my choice even though I've been here for only 2 days so far. Pretty much everything you need is within walking distance.

A quick recap of my 2 days: first day I was feeling some lingering stomach issues from last week. I felt better in the afternoon and called an escort who works for an agency on Mileroticos. No complaints and she gave me her personal number to call instead. I got dinner and decided to call it an early night because I didn't get much sleep the night prior.

Second day I had my first date with a girl off SA. It went great. We grabbed lunch and spent a total of 6 hours together. She asked for only 200 K while the escort from day 1 asked a little less than that for an hour. She offered a threesome with her friend and I scheduled it for Saturday because it's one of my open days. We're going to meet just the two of us in the morning and then grab drinks with her friend at night. Now your miles may vary. I feel like I kinda lucked out because she's attracted to me. I'm in my early 30's and in good shape. I'm not trying to sound like those guys who swear the stripper likes them. But there's no way she would have charged so little for 5 hours at my apartment otherwise. My bare minimum Spanish wasn't much of an issue. We communicated through translation apps for the most part.

Friday I have another SA date at night. I have another escort in mind for the day, but man, I'm already running out of time to see all the girls I wanted to. I had to turn down some SA girls too. Their interest shot up after I updated my profile telling them I was currently in Bogota.

[Mtljay]

Interesting find https://foroprepagoscolombia.com/ . It's all in Spanish but google chrome does an ok job of translating. 35 bucks for a monthly membership.

[Voodoo Jones]

SA probably has the hottest women I met in Bogota, but it is a lot of work to find them. The girls I met were higher class in general, and I enjoyed hanging out with them, but they want more money and you get no showed a bunch in the beginning. I would not do that unless you have a lot of time.I know my previous post spoke well of a woman I met off SA, but he's absolutely right that it is a lot of work. This was my first solo trip and I never tried sites like that, so I wanted to give it a try even if I failed. After 3 weeks of working the site, I was able to secure 3 dates. Now I know what you're thinking, but I'm only here for 6 days and more than 3 would be too much considering I'm calling a few escorts in between and wanted to keep some days open for flexibility. I ended up turning down many more and have so many unread messages, I set my profile to private. There's a 4th who wanted to meet the same night and lives close, so I'll try to fit her in if I can.

Now, would I use SA again if I return? Probably not. It was fun for a while but the novelty wears off. Women will stop responding to your texts if you're 3+ weeks away when you first talk. Start talking to them 2 weeks or less before you arrive.

[You69Me]

Need to be vaccinated to go to Colombia.

There are no such prices in Colombia.

You can fuck already for 10 bucks.

Just search for "prepago."


You can find 8 & 8. 5 on all the options you mentioned. SA / Tinder will swallow your valuable time. You can try to Escorts Agencies but as it has been said before there are no guarantees. On most of the escorts sites, the girls faces are blurred anyway so you really are getting that cat in the bag. You can find some real gems in the casas too and Santa Fe. No matter which route, you got to put in some work, sorry there's no point and click but boy do I wish.

[Igor54]

Hi,

I've never been in Medellin / no direct flights / and now thinking to travel there. Is there anything there kind of SF low tolerance zone? Many girls in one spot. My goal is to spend less time and effort to search girls, I don't want to run around the city in the hope to get my dream girl. And it's good to see 2 girls a day younger than 25 year old.

What about casas in Medellin Centro via Chapinero?

Thanks.