Bogota Reports

[Igor54]

Where I live, the going rate is USD 200 an hour. My default agency is https://www.escortsxo.com/models . The good news is these are good-looking girls, reputable agencies and the girls speak English. The bad news is that the rate does not go down, for example, if I want the girl for 5 hours, it's 1000 USD and the girls will not do deals outside of the agency.

If you want the 8-10 in looks girl, what are your options in Bogota?

SA / Tinder.

Escort Agency.

Brothels / Strip clubs (Lido, Paisas Fiebre).

Going to a club and picking up a girl will not work for me, I do not speak Spanish much and I am old.It looks like you are the first time there, get some experience with all options if you want. But keep a back up option, which is always FS. Book your hotel close to the spot, if you get tired to play with your phone texting to girls and waiting if they reply or come, or run from casa to casa in the hope that 8-9 waiting for you, you can go to SF.

[Igor54]

Is Easter time is slow in Bogota? If yes, what period? Thanks.

[Mtljay]

Question. How good is your Spanish to talk to the SA girls? Also I do not think you have to pay for ISG to get messages.


You can't message me because I didn't have time to pay for the forum membership, but will do so sometime after I get back. But to answer your question, I'm staying at an apartment rental across the street from the Hilton Doubletree in Chapinero. Look on Airbnb and you'll find it.

They do not charge for guests unless they're staying overnight. I really like the area and am satisfied with my choice even though I've been here for only 2 days so far. Pretty much everything you need is within walking distance.

A quick recap of my 2 days: first day I was feeling some lingering stomach issues from last week. I felt better in the afternoon and called an escort who works for an agency on Mileroticos. No complaints and she gave me her personal number to call instead. I got dinner and decided to call it an early night because I didn't get much sleep the night prior.

Second day I had my first date with a girl off SA. It went great. We grabbed lunch and spent a total of 6 hours together. She asked for only 200 K while the escort from day 1 asked a little less than that for an hour. She offered a threesome with her friend and I scheduled it for Saturday because it's one of my open days. We're going to meet just the two of us in the morning and then grab drinks with her friend at night. Now your miles may vary. I feel like I kinda lucked out because she's attracted to me. I'm in my early 30's and in good shape. I'm not trying to sound like those guys who swear the stripper likes them. But there's no way she would have charged so little for 5 hours at my apartment otherwise. My bare minimum Spanish wasn't much of an issue. We communicated through translation apps for the most part..

[BearEmy84]

Those who choose Bogota. Why? MDE seems like it's much more active for women, based off the forums.

I'm planning my first trip to COL now, and debating which city to choose.

Thanks in advance for your input.

I would either be staying near Chapinero (Avenida Chile Centro Mall), or Usaquen (Parque Nueva).

[Voodoo Jones]

Question. How good is your Spanish to talk to the SA girls? Also I do not think you have to pay for ISG to get messages.It doesn't matter because I'm talking to them either through the site or WhatsApp. The hard part is getting a date. Once you two meet up, she's not going to care if you can't speak Spanish. She's already invested and still going to get any money you negotiated.

[Voodoo Jones]

Those who choose Bogota. Why? MDE seems like it's much more active for women, based off the forums.

I'm planning my first trip to COL now, and debating which city to choose.

Thanks in advance for your input.

I would either be staying near Chapinero (Avenida Chile Centro Mall), or Usaquen (Parque Nueva).I never been to Colombia. I was originally looking at Cartagena because of the nice coastal weather. However, once I started checking out SA and the prepagos sites, it was clear that most of the girls were from Bogota. It makes sense seeing as though it's the most populous city by far.

[Aureliano16]

Those who choose Bogota. Why? MDE seems like it's much more active for women, based off the forums.

I'm planning my first trip to COL now, and debating which city to choose.

Thanks in advance for your input.

I would either be staying near Chapinero (Avenida Chile Centro Mall), or Usaquen (Parque Nueva).If I was visiting Colombia with mongering as the main goal I'd definitely go to Medellin rather than Bogota. You think it would make sense that there are hotter girls in Bogota because of the population, but it's not like that at all. You can see it by comparing the amount of reports in this thread vs the Medellin thread. Hell, I'd say Medellin is among the top 5 mongering destinations worldwide for sure.

Medellin is a special city because of the narco culture. In the 90's every pretty girl's dream in that region of Colombia was to marry one rich drug dealer, one of their bodyguards or any rich person they could find. In order to do that they all wanted to get tit / ass surgeries and whatnot. And the prettiest girls from neighboring cities such as Pereira or Manizales traveled to Medellin to fulfill that dream.

Nowadays with girls charging in Tinder, with SA and with so many foreigners traveling to Medellin for mongering it's the same "culture" as in the 90's. They have just shifted narcos for gringos. But the ultimate dream is the same, get tit surgery and be so hot that maybe one gringo can take her out of Colombia.

In Bogota on the other hand, many girls do want to work by themselves, study in the university and earn honest 250-500 USD monthly in a normal job LOL. Most prostitutes / escorts working in Bogota come from other parts of the country.


Second day I had my first date with a girl off SA. It went great. We grabbed lunch and spent a total of 6 hours together. She asked for only 200 K while the escort from day 1 asked a little less than that for an hour. She offered a threesome with her friend and I scheduled it for Saturday because it's one of my open days. We're going to meet just the two of us in the morning and then grab drinks with her friend at night. Now your miles may vary. I feel like I kinda lucked out because she's attracted to me. I'm in my early 30's and in good shape. I'm not trying to sound like those guys who swear the stripper likes them. But there's no way she would have charged so little for 5 hours at my apartment otherwise. My bare minimum Spanish wasn't much of an issue. We communicated through translation apps for the most part.Of course she is not attracted to you (well maybe a little), rather she is infatuated with the idea that you get in love with her and can get her out of Colombia eventually. Many, many girls are like that here. It's no surprise considering the low wages in the local currency. If you are blonde and not look old you could even pick up girls for free, I remember there was an event called "gringo Tuesday" in a local pub where the original idea was for Colombians to meet with foreigners to practice English but after it was popular enough it was only young and hot Colombian girls that didn't speak English at all but wanting to meet the man that would take them out of here.

[Igor54]

Question. How good is your Spanish to talk to the SA girls? Also I do not think you have to pay for ISG to get messages.Who cares about your Spanish. They spread their legs for the money. Not because you are the best fucker. They see the best fuckers like you 10 times a day, or more. Try to understand that.

[Gabacho]

Those who choose Bogota. Why? MDE seems like it's much more active for women, based off the forums.

I'm planning my first trip to COL now, and debating which city to choose.

Thanks in advance for your input.

I would either be staying near Chapinero (Avenida Chile Centro Mall), or Usaquen (Parque Nueva).Right now I'm in medellin but I was in bogot last month. Personally I like them both equally. I know alot of street girls from santa fe and have extensive connections for pussy there. Overall I think santa fe is slightly cheaper Than Botero but I hate the rooms being only 20 mins versus 30 mins in botero. I usually try to bring girls back to my hotel for an hour or longer session which runs about the same 70 k COP in both cities. I'm starting to build more connections in medellin too so there's plenty of options in both cities. I'd say I'd tilt slightly to medellin for the weather, the metro, the landscape, and the police don't seem to stop you and pat you down as much here as they do in bogota

[Igor54]

Those who choose Bogota. Why? MDE seems like it's much more active for women, based off the forums.

I'm planning my first trip to COL now, and debating which city to choose.

Thanks in advance for your input.

I would either be staying near Chapinero (Avenida Chile Centro Mall), or Usaquen (Parque Nueva).The problem is; its your the fist trip. And you try o figure out of your dreams. Go to Bogota.

[Igor54]

Question. How good is your Spanish to talk to the SA girls? Also I do not think you have to pay for ISG to get messages.They smell, google translator. Who cares about your Spanish? It's about the money.

[Igor54]

I never been to Colombia. I was originally looking at Cartagena because of the nice coastal weather. However, once I started checking out SA and the prepagos sites, it was clear that most of the girls were from Bogota. It makes sense seeing as though it's the most populous city by far.You need to decide; if you want to see girls or the sea.

[Igor54]

If I was visiting Colombia with mongering as the main goal I'd definitely go to Medellin rather than Bogota. You think it would make sense that there are hotter girls in Bogota because of the population, but it's not like that at all. You can see it by comparing the amount of reports in this thread vs the Medellin thread. Hell, I'd say Medellin is among the top 5 mongering destinations worldwide for sure.

Medellin is a special city because of the narco culture. In the 90's every pretty girl's dream in that region of Colombia was to marry one rich drug dealer, one of their bodyguards or any rich person they could find. In order to do that they all wanted to get tit / ass surgeries and whatnot. And the prettiest girls from neighboring cities such as Pereira or Manizales traveled to Medellin to fulfill that dream.

Nowadays with girls charging in Tinder, with SA and with so many foreigners traveling to Medellin for mongering it's the same "culture" as in the 90's. They have just shifted narcos for gringos. But the ultimate dream is the same, get tit surgery and be so hot that maybe one gringo can take her out of Colombia.

In Bogota on the other hand, many girls do want to work by themselves, study in the university and earn honest 250-500 USD monthly in a normal job LOL. Most prostitutes / escorts working in Bogota come from other parts of the country.Could you say anything from your experience, not from your opinion which is based on reading this wonderful forum? It is a bit different what you think and what you get. Thanks.

[Igor54]

Right now I'm in medellin but I was in bogot last month. Personally I like them both equally. I know alot of street girls from santa fe and have extensive connections for pussy there. Overall I think santa fe is slightly cheaper Than Botero but I hate the rooms being only 20 mins versus 30 mins in botero. I usually try to bring girls back to my hotel for an hour or longer session which runs about the same 70 k COP in both cities. I'm starting to build more connections in medellin too so there's plenty of options in both cities. I'd say I'd tilt slightly to medellin for the weather, the metro, the landscape, and the police don't seem to stop you and pat you down as much here as they do in bogotaPlease say something, more valuable than 10 $ cheaper. We need your opinion about; is it more easy to get 7-9/10 girls in Medellin compared to Bogota.

[Fudi Maar]

I remember there was an event called "gringo Tuesday" in a local pub where the original idea was for Colombians to meet with foreigners to practice English but after it was popular enough it was only young and hot Colombian girls that didn't speak English at all but wanting to meet the man that would take them out of here.It's still an event that takes place every Tuesday at Vintrash on Calle 85. I've been three times. It's always packed, with about 150+ people. It's meant to be a "language exchange" event, but everyone knows its just a social event, or a pick-up place where hot Colombianas come to talk to gringos. I know one guy who picked up a girl from here, took her to his hotel and lost all his money, and cards because she scopolamined him. At 8 pm it becomes a club, and dancing continues till 2 am.

[Elvis 2008]

Second day I had my first date with a girl off SA. It went great. We grabbed lunch and spent a total of 6 hours together. She asked for only 200 K while the escort from day 1 asked a little less than that for an hour. She offered a threesome with her friend and I scheduled it for Saturday because it's one of my open days. We're going to meet just the two of us in the morning and then grab drinks with her friend at night. Now your miles may vary. I feel like I kinda lucked out because she's attracted to me. I'm in my early 30's and in good shape. I'm not trying to sound like those guys who swear the stripper likes them. But there's no way she would have charged so little for 5 hours at my apartment otherwise.VJ,

I am in my 50's in not in good shape and had several Colombian women fall in love with me. People here really do not get how hopeless and shitty a lot of the futures are with these women. Colombians smile, suck it up, and are happy unlike anywhere else I have ever seen, but things are not good there. Colombia should be a wealthy country but they are a corrupt nation. I have also noticed the men are not that ethical and have heard story after story about infidelity. Colombians flat out cheat.

I used SA probably sooner than anyone else here did in Bogota. There were probably a half a dozen times when I met women and money was not discussed. Those were the best dates of all.

Most every guy on here will tell you, "The women just want you for your money." And the best response to that is what money? I almost lost out on my current gal who is a 10 in and out of the bedroom because I thought she was in it just for money. I thought there was no way she would be interested in me but she was, and I knew it because on our second date I gave her nothing, and she still wanted to see me.

I totally get what you mean about the stripper games, and I carried it with me to Colombia, and honestly, it got in the way. Sure, some of the SA women were stripper like but many, many of them are not. Invest your time in the ones that do not want to talk about money or at least not after the first date.

If your instincts tell you that she really likes you, she probably does.

[Voodoo Jones]

Of course she is not attracted to you (well maybe a little), rather she is infatuated with the idea that you get in love with her and can get her out of Colombia eventually. Many, many girls are like that here. It's no surprise considering the low wages in the local currency. If you are blonde and not look old you could even pick up girls for free, I remember there was an event called "gringo Tuesday" in a local pub where the original idea was for Colombians to meet with foreigners to practice English but after it was popular enough it was only young and hot Colombian girls that didn't speak English at all but wanting to meet the man that would take them out of here.I'm not saying you're wrong. Yet, I was born in South America and do not look like a foreigner. I've always done well with South American and Caribbean women in the US and abroad.

[Orgasmico]

Those who choose Bogota. Why? MDE seems like it's much more active for women, based off the forums.

I'm planning my first trip to COL now, and debating which city to choose.

Thanks in advance for your input.

I would either be staying near Chapinero (Avenida Chile Centro Mall), or Usaquen (Parque Nueva).I've lived in Medellin for almost 5 years now. I love Bogota. I wouldn't base my travel plans on what I see in this forum. If I listened to people in forums, I wouldn't have done 80% of the stuff that I've experienced.

I just read some knucklehead complaining about Cartagena in the forum. When I see people complaining about prices and generalizing from very limited experiences, I laugh.

Do you. You can have a great time in either city, if you are the type of person that knows how to have fun.

[Gabacho]

Please say something, more valuable than 10 $ cheaper. We need your opinion about; is it more easy to get 7-9/10 girls in Medellin compared to Bogota.If your main concern is getting with women you consider to be 7 - 9's (assuming what you consider to be a 7-9 is the same as most ppls) then I would say Medellín, specifically Parque Lleras. It may cost more but you will find more "7-9's" there than you will in Santa Fe in Bogota.

[Mr Enternational]

You think it would make sense that there are hotter girls in Bogota because of the population, but it's not like that at all. You can see it by comparing the amount of reports in this thread vs the Medellin thread.The amount of reports says nothing to how the girls look in either place. It simply says that more mongers go to one place than the other.

Take the Domimican Republic for instance. There are twice as many reports in the Sosua thread than in the Santo Domingo thread. Knowing both places one can not reasonably say that there are better looking women in a town with 2 traffic lights where you can walk everywhere (which Sosua is), than in the capital city of 1 million people.

The fact is that when people go on vacation they don't want to be cold and wet as they would be in Bogota versus Medellin.


Hell, I'd say Medellin is among the top 5 mongering destinations worldwide for sure.I would say that too.

[Gabacho]

Please say something, more valuable than 10 $ cheaper. We need your opinion about; is it more easy to get 7-9/10 girls in Medellin compared to Bogota.Also what you consider to be a 7-9 is entirely dependent on your opinion. For example I like dark skinned petite vennies, I'm not into silicone tits or ass or women that are super tall. What you consider a 7-9 is probably not what I consider a 7-9. That being said you should just get out and explore and see which place you prefer.

[Voodoo Jones]

I totally get what you mean about the stripper games, and I carried it with me to Colombia, and honestly, it got in the way. Sure, some of the SA women were stripper like but many, many of them are not. Invest your time in the ones that do not want to talk about money or at least not after the first date.

If your instincts tell you that she really likes you, she probably does.Very wise words and your posts were one of the reasons I gave SA a try. I think that last sentence sums up what I was trying to say. She's on SA, so obviously she wants financial help, but I (would like to think) could tell when someone just wants money and on to the next man vs. A chica who likes you but still would want some help. I talked to over 40+ girls on SA and this one stuck out for various reasons I won't bore you with.

I'm seeing her later today and we'll go out for drinks. When I eventually return to Bogota, I'll hit her up again. She offered to introduce my friends to her friends, so I'm fine with things as is. Sometimes you want an escort that will leave in an hour and sometimes you want someone who will show you around the city.

Is she playing the long game? Maybe, but I don't mind paying for the time she spends with me (or else I wouldn't be on SA or this forum) and have no intentions of supporting a woman aboard.

[RakSopheni]

An increase in gringo traffic raises concerns about price increases. Some prices for higher-end girls at top-tier night clubs like Fiebre or Troya have gone up slightly since my last trip a year ago. Such girls that might have accepted 80 k before now want 100 k, although some of the less competitive night club girls might still accept 80 k. Street prices have remained more stable, with most of them still quoting typical base rates of 40 k-60 k, excluding any extras. If there has been any increase in street prices at all, it has been in surcharges for extras like BBBJ, E. G. Some want as much as 40 k-50 k extra just for a BBBJ add-on (if they are willing to do it at all, that is). Some street girls will nonetheless still accept as little as 10 k-20 k extra for BBBJ. These slight increases are nonetheless small potatoes compared to the rampant price inflation among Medellin Facebook girls, and I saw no solid proof that these slight increases had any connection to the more noticeable gringo presence. Santa Fe remains highly cost-competitive if one is OK with the "hit-it-and-quit-it" style of service and the ghetto environment.Inspired by this excellent report of BM GringoItaliano, I will soon be spending a week exclusively in SF focusing solely on SW and club girls there. I might visit Loutron (a very good recent recommendation made me curious) but will not be bothering with Tinder, SA, or any other clubs. I've done SF a couple of times previously, but not with the focus I plan on and details on negotiating are a little rusty.

Some questions- do you guys find that SF street girls quote the price with the room (pieza?) included? How is this best handled? Should you defer to her choice on a nearby room? Try to take her to a nearby Airbnb? The last time I was there I recall being skimmed by my provider for what seemed like some extras that may or may not have been passed on to the short time hotel (I gave her the money and she gave it to them). If anyone has any advice on this bit of negotiation and the etiquette involved that would be very helpful.

[Voodoo Jones]

Alright, day 4 was the best by far. Got dinner and drinks with the girl I met off SA on day 2 and her friend. Had my first threesome and it was awesome. Spent close to 7 hours together and gave them a gift of 300 K each. Totally worth it and then some. One girl on SA tried charging me $360 (1,400 K) for a threesome with her friend. Fuck all that.

This experience alone made paying and browsing SA worth it. We already made plans to repeat the night when I'm back in Bogota later in the year. They want to see me again before I leave, but I doubt I will have the time because I have another SA date on Monday.

[Botti224]

Hi,

I will go to Bogota in some months and stay there for longer time. My nr. 1 sex-fantasy that I want to fulfil there is a MMF and / or Gangbang. Finding the right girl for this shouldn't be a problem I think but I will go there on my own and so I need to find a guy or several guys who want to join me on this.

So is there someone here who is interested or can tell me how to make contacts to English or even German speaking expats / tourists?

Thanks.

Botti.

[Mtljay]

You are my hero and all the talking is through google translator?


Alright, day 4 was the best by far. Got dinner and drinks with the girl I met off SA on day 2 and her friend. Had my first threesome and it was awesome. Spent close to 7 hours together and gave them a gift of 300 K each. Totally worth it and then some. One girl on SA tried charging me $360 (1,400 K) for a threesome with her friend. Fuck all that.

This experience alone made paying and browsing SA worth it. We already made plans to repeat the night when I'm back in Bogota later in the year. They want to see me again before I leave, but I doubt I will have the time because I have another SA date on Monday.

[Herry Hot]

Hi friend,

Will it be possible to share some pointers for these gals? I'm planning to visit Bogota in near future. Is your PM active?

Herry Hot.


Alright, day 4 was the best by far. Got dinner and drinks with the girl I met off SA on day 2 and her friend. Had my first threesome and it was awesome. Spent close to 7 hours together and gave them a gift of 300 K each. Totally worth it and then some. One girl on SA tried charging me $360 (1,400 K) for a threesome with her friend. Fuck all that.

This experience alone made paying and browsing SA worth it. We already made plans to repeat the night when I'm back in Bogota later in the year. They want to see me again before I leave, but I doubt I will have the time because I have another SA date on Monday.

[Voodoo Jones]

You are my hero and all the talking is through google translator?Yeah, use the conversation feature where you talk into your phone. If you have Android, the default translation app is great.

It can be a little awkward especially with the escorts, but it wasn't an issue with this SA girl and her friend because they wanted to converse.

One of the 3 SA girls I had planned canceled on day 3. She didn't reply back the day of to confirm. Said she was out of town and wanted to reschedule, but it didn't work out.

[Mtljay]

What are your thoughts on Four point Sheraton (https://www.marriott.com/hotels/maps/travel/bogfp-four-points-bogota/?maps) . Its guest friendly (They want $15 extra for overnight) . Location wise is that close to most of the strip bars / brothels?

Thanks.

[Aureliano16]

What are your thoughts on Four point Sheraton (https://www.marriott.com/hotels/maps/travel/bogfp-four-points-bogota/?maps) . Its guest friendly (They want $15 extra for overnight) . Location wise is that close to most of the strip bars / brothels?

Thanks.It is close (walking distance) to Loutron and relatively close (10 min uber) to the zone of massage parlors between CL 80 - CL 77.

It is a bit "far" from SF but not by that much (30 min uber).

If you plan to go several times to SF then I'd recommend Hotel Tequendama or Ibis Hotel in the KR10 since that is a 10 min uber to SF. If you don't plan to visit SF often, then that Sheraton looks fine.

[Mtljay]

Looking at SA for Bogota, there are about 1000 active girls (Girls between 18 - 40, who have logged on during the past 48 hours). I know your PM does not work, don't know if you can PM me.

I would like to start a google spreadsheet of valuable girls so others don't waste time. If you have an active SA account and would like to contribute, PM me.

The goal is to save time by finding out who are the time-wasters and scammers on SA.


Yeah, use the conversation feature where you talk into your phone. If you have Android, the default translation app is great.

It can be a little awkward especially with the escorts, but it wasn't an issue with this SA girl and her friend because they wanted to converse.

One of the 3 SA girls I had planned canceled on day 3. She didn't reply back the day of to confirm. Said she was out of town and wanted to reschedule, but it didn't work out.

[CoolGregg]

Hello friends, I will be staying in chapinero next week. Is there any quick Covid test site close to carrera 13 and between calle 50 to 70 or can they come to place for testing?

Taxi from airport is still charging 50 to 60 mil?

Thank you.

[SouthernComfor]

Taxi from airport is still charging 50 to 60 mil?Try Uber. Should be 30-35.

[Voodoo Jones]

Looking at SA for Bogota, there are about 1000 active girls (Girls between 18 - 40, who have logged on during the past 48 hours). I know your PM does not work, don't know if you can PM me.

I would like to start a google spreadsheet of valuable girls so others don't waste time. If you have an active SA account and would like to contribute, PM me.

The goal is to save time by finding out who are the time-wasters and scammers on SA.That's not going to work because the scammers can just create new accounts and most girls only stay on the site for a limited time. Your time is better spent talking to them.


Hi friend,

Will it be possible to share some pointers for these gals? I'm planning to visit Bogota in near future. Is your PM active?

Herry Hot.No, you can't PM me, but I'll answer any questions here in the meanwhile.

Honestly, it's a numbers game like every other dating site. Some women seemed interested, liked my face pics when we moved to WhatsApp, and then stopped replying. Some were due to too much time between talking to them and arriving in Bogota. Try to move to WhatsApp after some small talk. The serious ones will give you their numbers.

This one happened to work out. I had a good feeling because she would proactively reach out to me. I gave her money, but it was almost nothing for the amount of time and because she is smitten with me. Luck played a huge party obviously that it worked out the way it did.

[FlashShaker]

Hello friends, I will be staying in chapinero next week. Is there any quick Covid test site close to carrera 13 and between calle 50 to 70 or can they come to place for testing?

Taxi from airport is still charging 50 to 60 mil?

Thank you.Try this place, Analizar Laboratorio Clinico Automatizado Car 14 A #101-73, did my last covid test there at 7 am, no lines, make an appt online, google it. Had results within 2 h. Saved me serious time and hassle from the Synlab airport lines.

[FlashShaker]

Looking at SA for Bogota, there are about 1000 active girls (Girls between 18 - 40, who have logged on during the past 48 hours).
I would like to start a google spreadsheet of valuable girls so others don't waste time...
The goal is to save time by finding out who are the time-wasters and scammers on SA.With all due respect brother, it already sounds like you have valuable time to waste with your spreadsheet idea. You can't depend on someone else's experience to make your own. Girls in Colombia in general are flaky (whether intentional or not). Just because she was available for me doesn't mean she will be for you. Too many variables to take into account. Things like time, family situation and obligations, her travel and when you travel, safety, distance etc. Don't forget she might be on another gringo's roster at that time too. Girls on SA always and I repeat always move on to the next. These girls are not and they don't all in love. They need the dinero and you are just a means. Make your contacts, meet and greet and fuck, pay and on to the next.

[BangBangBoy]

What are your thoughts on Four point Sheraton (https://www.marriott.com/hotels/maps/travel/bogfp-four-points-bogota/?maps) . Its guest friendly (They want $15 extra for overnight) . Location wise is that close to most of the strip bars / brothels?
I stayed there for 3 days at the beginning of the New Year. Free breakfast was great and the location was good as it was only couple of blocks from Parque 93. Surprise to hear the $15 fee as they didn't charge me at all, since I booked for 2 and only ordered 1 escort each day. Think the $15 is when you go over the number of guests you booked. They had no problem with checking the escorts' ID's, sending them to my room after calling, and call me after to make sure everything is OK before the girls leave. They also gave me a room with two beds, don't know why, could be I accidentally booked it on-line. But both beds were queen-size and comfortable so I used one for sleep, and the other for "exercise." Given it was a 4-star hotel for $60 per day I would recommend it.

[Voodoo Jones]

Hello friends, I will be staying in chapinero next week. Is there any quick Covid test site close to carrera 13 and between calle 50 to 70 or can they come to place for testing?
This place is about 30 minutes from you. I used it as it was recommended by my apartment's staff.

Diagnostik Lab Clinic SAS: Cra. 56 #5 see-38 Piso 3, Bogota.

I took my test a couple hours ago, but I should receive the results later today. They open at 7 AM, I arrived at 8 AM and there was only one person in front of me. I was in and out 15-20 minutes.

[Ptgbac]

I highly recommend it too!Hi. I've read you know Brazil as well. Beetween Brasil and Colombia, wich do you recommend? Im European, I speak fluently Portuguese, and almoust perfect Spanish.

Colombia seems to be more dolarized, and expensive.

[JohnnyWishBone]

I'm heading back to Colombia in May and I will be spending a few days in Bogotá. I've read about 20 pages of reviews and comments; I know anything about Santa Fé until today and as luck would have it, I will be staying in La Candelaria which isn't far away. I'm definitely keen to walk the circuit and try the clubs; if there happens to be any forum members around during the period I am in Bogotá, especially any who are familiar with Santa Fé, give me a shout for a night out.

JW.

[Mtljay]

Thanks. Is Loutron still charging 800 K for an hour?


It is close (walking distance) to Loutron and relatively close (10 min uber) to the zone of massage parlors between CL 80 - CL 77.

It is a bit "far" from SF but not by that much (30 min uber).

If you plan to go several times to SF then I'd recommend Hotel Tequendama or Ibis Hotel in the KR10 since that is a 10 min uber to SF. If you don't plan to visit SF often, then that Sheraton looks fine.

[Igor54]

Could anyone recommend short stay motel right in the playground area? And any info about price? Or maybe someone has a workflow to rent something short stay at SF and not to bring girls to hotel. Thanks.

[TheNewStandArd]

Hey guys,

Bogota is popping my solo trip cherry starting March 14-17. Still exploring places to stay but I'm thinking a hotel in the Tuquendama suites / hotel. Any updates advice for a first time solo traveler? If you're in the area and want a wingman, I'd be happy to accompany you.

[Woodman09]

Could anyone recommend short stay motel right in the playground area? And any info about price? Or maybe someone has a workflow to rent something short stay at SF and not to bring girls to hotel. Thanks.There are several. I think it is 30-40 mil for several hours. I cannot recommend one because I have not done that but some are nicer then others-.

I do know that there is one where I know guys have stayed is Santa Fe Suites. See photo.

[Voodoo Jones]

This place is about 30 minutes from you. I used it as it was recommended by my apartment's staff.

Diagnostik Lab Clinic SAS: Cra. 56 #5 see-38 Piso 3, Bogota.

I took my test a couple hours ago, but I should receive the results later today. They open at 7 AM, I arrived at 8 AM and there was only one person in front of me. I was in and out 15-20 minutes.I take back this recommendation. They almost made me miss my flight because they didn't send the results until I called them this morning.

Anyway, I'm back from Bogota and will write a full report soon. My last day there was the best one yet. I met another SA girl in the afternoon and then had another threesome with those girls from day 4 at night. Woke up tired as hell, but I'm planning a weekend trip in April to meet up with all 3 of them again.

[Aureliano16]

Thanks. Is Loutron still charging 800 K for an hour?I was there yesterday at 6 PM and paid 370 k for 1 hour + 20 k for a bottle of water + 20 k in tips (hostess and cleaning lady).

Total 410 k.

I asked the hostess and she told me some girls speak English. Maybe you could find your girlfriend there (it will be very expensive though).

If you go to Loutron to drink with the girls then expect to pay more than 1 million pesos.

[Fudi Maar]

On Sat, I went to:

Pussy House (Calle 61 #13-64.). Very nice inside, and roomy. Music very loud. Some girl or the other is pole dancing in the middle, and as soon as a customer walks in, a waiter escorts them to a table. A beer was just 6 K (about $1.50 US). I saw two girls siting with guys, and another 2 sitting together at one end of the room. The format seemed really rigid and forced. I had hoped that guys could approach girls and have a chat, and maybe go and fuck, but if I hadn't read this forum, I would think that this was simply a strip club and nothing more. I would have happily fucked a couple of the girls there, if only I knew what the etiquette was.

Question: I feel totally dumb asking this, but what's the best way to ask a girl for sex there? What is the proper etiquette?

So, after an hour, I left and went to:

Las Divas (Calle 61 # 13-81) almost opposite Pussy House. This is a small basic room with a bar, loud music and a pole. A girl was doing a strip dance, and there were chairs against the walls, and about 8 girls in total and 5 guys. I actually like this format, as some of the girls were smiling and winking. Indicating that they want action. There was a hot one next to me, and after an hour of sitting in Pussy House, I wasn't going to wait around here. I used my phone to ask how much for sex. It was 80 K for half an hour. I paid at the bar, where the buy literally filled in a couple of forms and handled the cash. I was taken by the girl to the building next door. The 'room' was more like a closet literally only wide enough for a single 'bed' against a wall, and about 1 foot of space on the other side. No windows, of course, and no fan, so it became very hot and uncomfortable in there. The girl though was awesome gorgeous and with an amazing attitude. I actually stopped banging her after 20 minutes (was covered in sweat), but rather than getting dressed, she sat there and stroked my body until the 30 minutes were up and was just very lovely all around.

Lewinski Bar (Calle 57 #9-35.) This is now called 'Rodellors ' or something like that. There's a guy standing outside, handing out little leaflets promoting the place, so you won't miss it. A bar with loud music, and about 6-8 girls, and 6 guys (on a Saturday night at 8 pm not sure how these guys make any money). Anyway, nice set up with little sofas etc and a dancing pole, but none of the girls were dancing. They all looked disinterested, and were happily staring at their phones. One girl sat next to me and tried to get me into a room, but I wouldn't have banged her for free. None of the other girls were attractive either. And so after half an hour I left. The prices are listed on a wall 50 K for 30 minutes, and 100 K for 1 hour.

[Mtljay]

Are the girls good as the https://lacelestina.co/ girls for the price.


I was there yesterday at 6 PM and paid 370 k for 1 hour + 20 k for a bottle of water + 20 k in tips (hostess and cleaning lady).

Total 410 k.

I asked the hostess and she told me some girls speak English. Maybe you could find your girlfriend there (it will be very expensive though).

If you go to Loutron to drink with the girls then expect to pay more than 1 million pesos.

[Aureliano16]

Question: I feel totally dumb asking this, but what's the best way to ask a girl for sex there? What is the proper etiquette?.It's the same as in SF; you approach the girl, ask her name and ask how much for half an hour? After that you ask if the price includes the room and it will be 100% clear this is sex and not some kind of dance show. In Spanish I always say "a cuanto el rato amor", rato means something like "a while" and it means like 20 minutes. I always start with this because it's the cheapest and you get to fuck and know the girl naked. If the girl smells bad or has scarfs or something I don't like in the room then that is it. If the girl is good then I ask her if she would go to a motel and ask her phone number.


Are the girls good as the https://lacelestina.co/ girls for the price.Many Loutron girls also work in la celestina. I'd say you end up paying more in Loutron but you get to see / pick the girls live, in lacelestina or any other prepago website it's a hit or miss as I've already said in this thread.

If Loutron seems too expensive, then for 310 k you find many 8-9 girls in Cra. 16 #80-66 Absolut Spa. If 310 k seems still expensive, you can find 8-9 girls in SF but you need to work harder to find them and make a deal in a motel. I'd say a bit difficult if you don't speak Spanish and go alone. I think absolut spa is the best overall value in price / looks / easiness for English speakers. I go often to Loutron because I found a girl there that seems to like me and the service with her is great and because of scheduling reasons we haven't been able to meet in a motel yet.

[Woodman09]

On Sat, I went to:
... I would have happily fucked a couple of the girls there, if only I knew what the etiquette was.

Question: I feel totally dumb asking this, but what's the best way to ask a girl for sex there? What is the proper etiquette?..My usual approach is to start talking to them, introduce myself, small talk, start feeling them up and grinding on her, if the response is good I will ask about un rato.

[BearEmy84]

Many Loutron girls also work in la celestina. I'd say you end up paying more in Loutron but you get to see / pick the girls live, in lacelestina or any other prepago website it's a hit or miss as I've already said in this thread.

If Loutron seems too expensive, then for 310 k you find many 8-9 girls in Cra. 16 #80-66 Absolut Spa. If 310 k seems still expensive, you can find 8-9 girls in SF but you need to work harder to find them and make a deal in a motel. I'd say a bit difficult if you don't speak Spanish and go alone. I think absolut spa is the best overall value in price / looks / easiness for English speakers. I go often to Loutron because I found a girl there that seems to like me and the service with her is great and because of scheduling reasons we haven't been able to meet in a motel yet.La Celestina seems to have a physical location off calle 62. Has anyone been here? Are showers available?

Same question for Absolut Spa. Are showers available there?

[Mtljay]

It's the same as in SF; you approach the girl, ask her name and ask how much for half an hour? After that you ask if the price includes the room and it will be 100% clear this is sex and not some kind of dance show. In Spanish I always say "a cuanto el rato amor", rato means something like "a while" and it means like 20 minutes. I always start with this because it's the cheapest and you get to fuck and know the girl naked. If the girl smells bad or has scarfs or something I don't like in the room then that is it. If the girl is good then I ask her if she would go to a motel and ask her phone number.

Many Loutron girls also work in la celestina. I'd say you end up paying more in Loutron but you get to see / pick the girls live, in lacelestina or any other prepago website it's a hit or miss as I've already said in this thread.

If Loutron seems too expensive, then for 310 k you find many 8-9 girls in Cra. 16 #80-66 Absolut Spa. If 310 k seems still expensive, you can find 8-9 girls in SF but you need to work harder to find them and make a deal in a motel. I'd say a bit difficult if you don't speak Spanish and go alone. I think absolut spa is the best overall value in price / looks / easiness for English speakers. I go often to Loutron because I found a girl there that seems to like me and the service with her is great and because of scheduling reasons we haven't been able to meet in a motel yet.Thanks. I will stick to Loutron, it's only a walking distance from where I am staying (Four-point Sheraton).

[Balboa]

It's the same as in SF; you approach the girl, ask her name and ask how much for half an hour? After that you ask if the price includes the room and it will be 100% clear this is sex and not some kind of dance show. In Spanish I always say "a cuanto el rato amor", rato means something like "a while" and it means like 20 minutes. I always start with this because it's the cheapest and you get to fuck and know the girl naked. If the girl smells bad or has scarfs or something I don't like in the room then that is it. If the girl is good then I ask her if she would go to a motel and ask her phone number.
"Cuanto es por un rato, amor".

[Igor54]

On Sat, I went to:

Pussy House (Calle 61 #13-64.). Very nice inside, and roomy. Music very loud. Some girl or the other is pole dancing in the middle, and as soon as a customer walks in, a waiter escorts them to a table. A beer was just 6 K (about $1.50 US). I saw two girls siting with guys, and another 2 sitting together at one end of the room. The format seemed really rigid and forced. I had hoped that guys could approach girls and have a chat, and maybe go and fuck, but if I hadn't read this forum, I would think that this was simply a strip club and nothing more. I would have happily fucked a couple of the girls there, if only I knew what the etiquette was.

Question: I feel totally dumb asking this, but what's the best way to ask a girl for sex there? What is the proper etiquette?

So, after an hour, I left and went to:

Las Divas (Calle 61 # 13-81) almost opposite Pussy House. This is a small basic room with a bar, loud music and a pole. A girl was doing a strip dance, and there were chairs against the walls, and about 8 girls in total and 5 guys. I actually like this format, as some of the girls were smiling and winking. Indicating that they want action. There was a hot one next to me, and after an hour of sitting in Pussy House, I wasn't going to wait around here. I used my phone to ask how much for sex. It was 80 K for half an hour. I paid at the bar, where the buy literally filled in a couple of forms and handled the cash. I was taken by the girl to the building next door..Take it easy and type how mush for 30 min in google translator. Or you can ask a barman about prices first and than say 'hola mi amor' and type on your phone. No worries, they'll understand you and you goals.

[Stinky Squid]

I submitted a report yesterday that should be important for people in Bogota. And today I'm coming here wanting to see replies and I don't find even my report. Did the Admin delete it? If so would he be so kind as to inform me why?

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[Mr Enternational]

I submitted a report yesterday that should be important for people in Bogota. And today I'm coming here wanting to see replies and I don't find even my report. Did the Admin delete it? If so would he be so kind as to inform me why?Because you can not talk about fucking dudes on this website.

"The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with WOMEN. "

[The Tall Man]

I submitted a report yesterday that should be important for people in Bogota. And today I'm coming here wanting to see replies and I don't find even my report. Did the Admin delete it? If so would he be so kind as to inform me why?
Because you can not talk about fucking dudes on this website.

"The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with WOMEN. "Perfect response.

The Afroman from Colt 45:

"I met this lady in Hollywood.

She had green hair but damn she looked good.

I took her to my house because she was fine.

But she whooped out a dick that was bigger than mine.

Said colt 45 and two zigzags baby that's all we need.

We can go to the park, after dark.

Smoke that tumbleweed.

As the marijuana burn we can take our turn.

Singin' them dirty rap songs".

Oh what a day, war in the Ukraine and Lady-boys in Bogota, hehehe.

SAV.

[Voodoo Jones]

I submitted a report yesterday that should be important for people in Bogota. And today I'm coming here wanting to see replies and I don't find even my report. Did the Admin delete it? If so would he be so kind as to inform me why?I saw some of the replies (and posted one too) before they also got deleted. They were not good and I'll just leave it at that.

And I would have to hard disagree with it being "important for people in Bogota". It added no value for 99.99% of us and would only be a needless distraction. I think the admins did right here.

[Stinky Squid]

I saw some of the replies (and posted one too) before they also got deleted. They were not good and I'll just leave it at that.

And I would have to hard disagree with it being "important for people in Bogota". It added no value for 99.99% of us and would only be a needless distraction. I think the admins did right here.Ok, then I just leave it at one thing, beware of a certain Cristina (without h after the C) that doesn't appear of the wrong kind at all until you really check. I think that is relevant. Because it was not my intention to go that way. I don't care if people make fun of me now, whatever. Until it happens to you, you can make fun of it. The reason I reported is to make people aware.

[Mtljay]

https://amapolas.net/acompanantes-en-bogota/ and https://lasincreibles.com/ : Best looking girls, but is this too good to be true?

[Voodoo Jones]

Ok, then I just leave it at one thing, beware of a certain Cristina (without h after the C) that doesn't appear of the wrong kind at all until you really check. I think that is relevant. Because it was not my intention to go that way. I don't care if people make fun of me now, whatever. Until it happens to you, you can make fun of it. The reason I reported is to make people aware.I didn't make fun of you, I was surprised at how out of place your post was. If I remember correctly, you had at least one or two warning signs and ignored them.

[Mtljay]

https://amapolas.net/acompanantes-en-bogota/ and https://lasincreibles.com/ : Best looking girls, but is this too good to be true?Looks like this is a scam site, google is your friend.

[Voodoo Jones]

https://amapolas.net/acompanantes-en-bogota/ and https://lasincreibles.com/ : Best looking girls, but is this too good to be true?Probably not because those escorts are very expensive. You will find a dime if you're willing to pay a premium.

On the other hand, I've found amazing looking escorts for less on other sites. The only problem is that many may not be available when you are. Some of the best looking ones I wanted to see were not around during my free days. I think it would be less of a problem with the expensive ones though because of less demand.

[Mtljay]

Probably not because those escorts are very expensive. You will find a dime if you're willing to pay a premium.

On the other hand, I've found amazing looking escorts for less on other sites. The only problem is that many may not be available when you are. Some of the best looking ones I wanted to see were not around during my free days. I think it would be less of a problem with the expensive ones though because of less demand.Can you share other sites you used?

Eagerly waiting for you trip report.

[Mr Enternational]

Ok, then I just leave it at one thing, beware of a certain Cristina (without h after the C) that doesn't appear of the wrong kind at all until you really check. I think that is relevant. Because it was not my intention to go that way. I don't care if people make fun of me now, whatever. Until it happens to you, you can make fun of it. The reason I reported is to make people aware.You made people aware that you wanted to do that. Anyone that goes from kissing a "chick" to her saying only put it in my ass and them doing it when they have seen no parts of the pussy, was not looking to fuck a chick.

[Voodoo Jones]

First, I want to thanks the guys that recommended SA. The two girls I met off there were far and above the best experiences I had in Bogota. It is hard work to find these girls and them chat them up well enough that they end up meeting.

The first SA girl I hooked with on day 2 (let's call her Emily). She then invited her friend for a threesome on day 4 and we repeated on day 6. I paid them about 1.1 million pesos in total (excluding food and drinks) for 3 half-days.

The second SA girl (let's call her Jenna) I was supposed to meet on day 1, but she had to travel and we couldn't meet until my last day. I actually liked her the most of all. She is a lawyer and we had the most in common. She spoke a little English, so we communicated mostly through translation apps like I did with all the girls. We agreed that the conversation flowed nicely despite this.

The funny thing is she was blown away by how SA worked for guys. Women with normal accounts could not browse the men unless those men were diamond members (which is above premium and costs like $250/ month) and instead had to wait until they were messaged. She scrolled through a bunch of pages (she didn't want to give my phone back LOL) and lamented how there were so many beautiful women. "Wow, guys have it great on the site?" she asked. Not really, I told her.

I believed her when she said this was her first time meeting someone on SA (for various reasons). She was nervous when we started to get physical, but got into it really quick. I wish we could have met again during my trip. The entire date was only supposed to last about 5 hours, but ended up being 6. We had agreed to 600 K cash + a gift of under 100 K + taxi before meeting. I made this deal before talking to Emily, yet I still consider it fully worth it.

I called up a couple escorts on my open days, but in comparison, there's not much to write about. Rates were between 180-200 K an hour including taxi.

So, full report:

Day 1: I was feeling some lingering stomach issues that preceded my trip and spent half the day resting. I called up a few escorts I had my eyes on and hooked up with the first to respond. Spent 2 hours for about 400 K including the taxi. It started to rain when it was time to leave, so it took 30 minutes to finally get a taxi. We waited in the cafe next door to my place and talked for a bit. She ended up giving me her personal number, as the number I called her through was part of an agency.

Day 2: Met with the first SA girl for lunch (Emily). We went back to my apartment and talked for a bit. Had sex, watched some Netflix as I recovered, and had sex again. The entire experience was about 6 hours. Before we went to my bedroom, she asked what our agreement would be. I took a gamble and asked her what she wanted instead of making an offer. It worked and she only asked for 200 K. I would have paid way more.

Day 3: I hung out around the area and called up another escort later in the night. It wasn't any of the ones I had planned, but she was available at the time and looked good. Unfortunately, I was having trouble scheduling the ones I really wanted probably because they were the hottest ones on Photoprepagos and Mileroticos. It was 200 K for an hour and included taxi.

Day 4: I had arranged my first-ever threesome with Emily from SA and her friend on day 2. Met with Emily around 5. I was tempted to have sex, but kinda wanted to make sure I had energy for the threesome, so we hung out a bit and bought beer for later. At 8, we go on our trio date at a restaurant literally down the street from me. We eat and go to a nearby bar for drinks. I made sure to drink 3 pints of dark Colombian beer (it helps lasting in bed). Ended up back at my apartment by 1 and had a great time until 3. Gave them 300 K each.

Day 5: my worst day. I was a bit hungover, but not much. Had a late breakfast and was still riding high off the threesome. In the afternoon, I arranged for one of the escorts I found before I arrived. We agreed for 8 and she asked me to send an Uber. At 7, I text her to confirm the Uber at 7:30. No reply. I start texting other escorts, but it gets harder the later is it, especially since it's a Sunday. At around 10, she texts me back with some sob story about having to go shopping for her mom. I gave her a second chance (only because she was hotter than the other available ones) and told her to be here by 11:30. She agrees, but at 11, she asks the send the Uber at midnight because she's eating. No third chances, so I cancel. To make up for my wasted day, I did what anyone else would do: I texted Emily and told her I wanted another threesome the next day. I went to bed happily knowing I would have 3 girls for my last day. I also woke up to texts from the escort asking me why I canceled.

Day 6: I had my date with Jenna (other girl off SA) at 1 pm. You can read above for full details with her. She left at 7 and I saw Emily and her friend at 8. They left at 3 am and I paid them the same 300 K each plus 50 K for all the taxis they took. I woke up 3 hours later and left for the airport. Totally worth it.

Lastly, I am going back in early April for a long weekend. I'll spend two days with the Emily and her friend, then one day with Jenna. I've been texting with them since I left and they're all looking forward to it. I probably want to see Jenna a third time in the summer, but I'll see how things go in April.

I'm going to try to get a forum membership within the week, so hopefully you guys can PM me soon with any questions. I know I'm going to have to send PMs thanking a few guys.

[Voodoo Jones]

Can you share other sites you used?

Eagerly waiting for you trip report.Mainly I used Photoprepagos and Co. Mileroticos. It's where I got my escorts from. You can find a lot of dimes for under 200 K an hour (includes taxi).

Photoprepagos has the the best search function. But if you Google the term "prepagos", you'll find more sites like them.

Co. Skokka also has some dimes, but most wanted me to send them money for the cab. Hell no. The legit ones will pay themselves and get reimbursed. I also have no problem paying for an Uber, but never give them money upfront.

I should have texted more women on my slow days, but I was just really picky and wanted certain ones. I don't recommend doing that LOL. If they don't respond promptly, just keep texting new women. Try to schedule it as soon as you can. If she responds, that means she's available now, so tell her to come over in an hour. If you read my report below, I wasted too much time on day 5 and it was the only day I didn't get laid. But I was also doing other things in the city, so I was busy too.

[Mr Enternational]

So glad I finally found the perfect (for me) airbnb overlooking Santa Fe. Most guys would be terrified to stay here. It is ghetto on the outside and in the hallway, but the apartment is new in the inside.

In the rules it says that nobody is allowed inside whose ID has not been sent to the owner, but I will see how that works out when a non-pro gets here in a little while. There is a guard downstairs though that has to register everyone in the building log.

[DarrenGap]

So glad I finally found the perfect (for me) airbnb overlooking Santa Fe. Most guys would be terrified to stay here. It is ghetto on the outside and in the hallway, but the apartment is new in the inside.

In the rules it says that nobody is allowed inside whose ID has not been sent to the owner, but I will see how that works out when a non-pro gets here in a little while. There is a guard downstairs though that has to register everyone in the building log.Offer the guard a small sum if he OK's gives you grief. Thats what I did in Cartagena years ago, and they couldn't send them up fast enough.

[Mr Enternational]

Offer the guard a small sum if he OK's gives you grief. Thats what I did in Cartagena years ago, and they couldn't send them up fast enough.He didn't even ask to see the ID. He only asked her name and the ID number.

[Mtljay]

So we have around 10 Emilys on SA, will PM you once you get your membership.

1.1 million pesos in total (excluding food and drinks) for 3 half-days, that's 1/10 to 1/15 of what it will cost me where I live.



First, I want to thanks the guys that recommended SA. The two girls I met off there were far and above the best experiences I had in Bogota. It is hard work to find these girls and them chat them up well enough that they end up meeting.

The first SA girl I hooked with on day 2 (let's call her Emily). She then invited her friend for a threesome on day 4 and we repeated on day 6. I paid them about 1.1 million pesos in total (excluding food and drinks) for 3 half-days.

[Tasss]

So glad I finally found the perfect (for me) airbnb overlooking Santa Fe. Most guys would be terrified to stay here. It is ghetto on the outside and in the hallway, but the apartment is new in the inside.

In the rules it says that nobody is allowed inside whose ID has not been sent to the owner, but I will see how that works out when a non-pro gets here in a little while. There is a guard downstairs though that has to register everyone in the building log.I didn't notice these kind of anti-puta rules before in the Airbnbs around Santa Fe a few years ago, but they're more and more common now. I had major issues with my Airbnb this time around and ended booking two places. One for day time and one for night time because the night time one won't let in any guests during the day.

[Dandelionheyz]

So we have around 10 Emilys on SA, will PM you once you get your membership.

1.1 million pesos in total (excluding food and drinks) for 3 half-days, that's 1/10 to 1/15 of what it will cost me where I live.Never heard of SA before. How do you approach the girl in SA? Do you send them the offer? Why do those girls in SA look like asking for $1000 dollars to me?

[Woodman09]

So glad I finally found the perfect (for me) airbnb overlooking Santa Fe. Most guys would be terrified to stay here. It is ghetto on the outside and in the hallway, but the apartment is new in the inside.

In the rules it says that nobody is allowed inside whose ID has not been sent to the owner, but I will see how that works out when a non-pro gets here in a little while. There is a guard downstairs though that has to register everyone in the building log.Nice, I know a few guys who have stayed at that building outside the busway. There is another building right around the corner on 26 that has some nice apartments.

Also a block north at the Art Museo Torres -- those are really nice.

[MongerHunger]

So glad I finally found the perfect (for me) airbnb overlooking Santa Fe. Most guys would be terrified to stay here. It is ghetto on the outside and in the hallway, but the apartment is new in the inside.

In the rules it says that nobody is allowed inside whose ID has not been sent to the owner, but I will see how that works out when a non-pro gets here in a little while. There is a guard downstairs though that has to register everyone in the building log.I know exactly where that is. I stayed in a studio in that building for $18 USD a night. Modern interior. Moto spot next door. Get buzzed into building by staff. About a 5 minute or so walk to Santa Fe. Very convenient. I have similar pictures.

[Voodoo Jones]

So we have around 10 Emilys on SA, will PM you once you get your membership.

1.1 million pesos in total (excluding food and drinks) for 3 half-days, that's 1/10 to 1/15 of what it will cost me where I live.Those aren't their names on SA. I forgot what they used because we moved to WhatsApp weeks ago.

SA doesn't work like the escort sites where you can just pick which one you want and arrange a meeting. I probably messaged over 50+ girls during my month membership and only ended up meeting two in the end. I had more that wanted to meet, but our schedules did not align. Many others just flaked out because I was talking to them weeks before I arrive. The sooner you can meet, the better your chances. A lot of the girls won't even be active while you have an active membership. Some try it out for a while then stop and many others take a break from the site.

Also, don't expect those prices for how much time she spent with me. I will be the first to admit I fucking lucked out big time. Her and her friend were probably more into me by the end than I was into them. I picked up some of their conversations between themselves and I realized they were talking about me ever so often. Still didn't understand most of it. One time they had an exchange between each other, then the other chica asked me the same question through the translation app: "how don't you have a girlfriend back home? You would have a wife and kids if you lived here. " Of course, I don't want a wife or even a girlfriend at the moment.

During our last meeting, they said they were saying they loved me and they were my Colombian girlfriends. "Sure," I said. They can call themselves whatever they want, I don't give a shit, but I know they'll be back on SA. They said I was the first they met on the site, but I don't believe them either.

The other SA girl said the same thing and I'm more inclined to believe her because she was on the site for less time than me (one of the reasons I messaged her), had normal life obligations that made it tricky to meet, and acted differently than the other girls. Still, I know she'll be back on the site too. It's not like I think any of these girls are exclusive to me and I'm sure as hell not exclusive to them.

But the experiences were much better than a normal escort. There was no clock watching, they had times in which they had to go, but we went over them pretty much every time. You got to work for it though.

[Mtljay]

What are your thoughts on Four point Sheraton (https://www.marriott.com/hotels/maps/travel/bogfp-four-points-bogota/?maps) . Its guest friendly (They want $15 extra for overnight) . Location wise is that close to most of the strip bars / brothels?

Thanks.Is this hotel in Chapinero? If I tell a girl I am staying at a hotel in chapinero, is that correct?

[Mr Enternational]

Is this hotel in Chapinero? If I tell a girl I am staying at a hotel in chapinero, is that correct?Tell them Parque 93.

[Mr Enternational]

The other SA girl said the same thing and I'm more inclined to believe her because she was on the site for less time than me (one of the reasons I messaged her), had normal life obligations that made it tricky to meet, and acted differently than the other girls. Still, I know she'll be back on the site too. It's not like I think any of these girls are exclusive to me and I'm sure as hell not exclusive to them.Your experience on SA sounds just like my experience with Cupid, except there is no understanding of money changing hands. After 17 years on that site I could write a book about it. You have definitely summarized it though. Chicks come and they go and some come back, and some stick around through it all.

When I was in Barranquilla in November one of my nurse chicks stayed with me one night. After she left for work she sent me a message saying something about I did not give her money. I am like what the fuck are you talking about. I have never given you money. She was like that is okay. You can just send it to my bank account. I stopped talking to her. She would call and send me messages everyday and I would not answer.

Last week somebody sent me a message in whatsapp from a number I did not have. My damn Samsung updated so it dropped a lot of the contacts (they have since fixed and restored it). Well it ended up being her. She wanted to know what happened. I said I am sorry. I do not have money for you. She apologized profusely and said she would never ask for money again.

A couple of weeks ago an old flame spoke to me on Cupid. I do not understand why chicks that already have my number would talk to me on that site. I told her my phone number has not changed in over 20 years, why did you not just talk in whatsapp?

I must have originally met her on Cupid 15 years ago. She is Colombian but was living in Venezuela at the time, but has been living in Panama for the longest now. We tried to rekindle a couple of times but I always end up telling her about her selfish attitude. And now at 48 she does not seem to realize she has passed her marry by date. I have seen dudes with her come and go and she goes back to the site. The last time I talked to her was like September and she was saying how I never did anything for her, but this one guy has helped her through the pandemic and with god's help (always playing Miss Religious) she is giving him a shot to try to be her husband. I was laughing my ass off in the inside.

So when she hit me on Cupid 2 weeks ago I said what are you doing on here. You told me you were getting married. She said it did not pan out with the guy and that he did not live in Panama. I wonder if they ever even met or he just met her online and was sending money. I explained to her that she can not keep a man because she is so damn selfish. Everything is me, me, me and guys get tired of that shit. That is a pic of us on the beach in Venezuela way back when. She has since had to get those fake tits taken out due to health reasons.

And then there are the chicks that I met on the site and am still fucking that go back and see me on the site and ask what I am doing on the site. Bich I am on here seeing what the fuck you are doing on here!

[Voodoo Jones]

And then there are the chicks that I met on the site and am still fucking that go back and see me on the site and ask what I am doing on the site. Bich I am on here seeing what the fuck you are doing on here!You know, after weeks of browsing SA and getting into so many conversations that either led nowhere or they took too long to reply because they used the site so infrequently, I was a little burnt out and happy that I was finally in Colombia so I didn't need it to use it anymore. However, that may change in the future. I'll do things a little different next time, but I found the quality to be top notch there. Some people may think we're wasting our time on dating sites. It's just another avenue to get women. It won't be for everyone because you have to game them like you do with a woman you meet back home. Still I found it fun and if you do meet them, they are all over you.

Now others will say I'm still giving them money in the end, so why bother? You're always spending money to get ass in one way or another. But from my report, you can read that they got very little for the total time together. Their attitudes were vastly different than the escorts I saw and made for a much more memorable time. I'm going back for 4 days in April just to see these girls, no one else.

[JumpOver]

Hi everyone,

Been ages since I was in South America and up for company. I am in Bogota for the 1st time for a few days and staying at a hotel that is not guest friendly.

Wondering what my best option for a brothel nearby. I am not so adventurous and willing to pay a premium for upscale experiences. I speak only a bit of Spanish so Inglés friendly is a plus.

What are the best high end brothel / clubs in town that are actually open these days? Bonus points for closeness to Zona T / Chico / Chapinero. Even a high end spa with HJ opportunities would be good for me.

Sorry for the last minute outreach. This trip came together very fast.

Tobey.

[Ggekko2009]

You know, after weeks of browsing SA and getting into so many conversations that either led nowhere or they took too long to reply because they used the site so infrequently, I was a little burnt out and happy that I was finally in Colombia so I didn't need it to use it anymore. However, that may change in the future. I'll do things a little different next time, but I found the quality to be top notch there. Some people may think we're wasting our time on dating sites. It's just another avenue to get women. It won't be for everyone because you have to game them like you do with a woman you meet back home. Still I found it fun and if you do meet them, they are all over you.

Now others will say I'm still giving them money in the end, so why bother? You're always spending money to get ass in one way or another. But from my report, you can read that they got very little for the total time together. Their attitudes were vastly different than the escorts I saw and made for a much more memorable time. I'm going back for 4 days in April just to see these girls, no one else.I am just collecting their WhatsApp contact at this point. I reckon they are on the WA more often than not. That way, I can just text them to tell them to get ready to meet on WA before I get there. Not sure if this approach will work any better, but I would find out soon enough.

[Voodoo Jones]

I am just collecting their WhatsApp contact at this point. I reckon they are on the WA more often than not. That way, I can just text them to tell them to get ready to meet on WA before I get there. Not sure if this approach will work any better, but I would find out soon enough.Yes, I would try to move to WhatsApp as soon as you can. The serious ones will give you their number. I would also recommend you send some texts to keep them engaged until you get there and arrange a definitive day you will meet. Then confirm that date when you're about to arrive in Bogota.

[Mtljay]

I am like you (Never been to Bogota, but going in a month and am willing to pay a premium for upscale experiences. ) and with all the research I have done on this group here is the list I have come up with for clubs / spas to find girls who are better looking.

Since I have never been to Bogota I will let the experienced mongers comment on these.

Flirt Hotel: https://www.facebook.com/FlirtHotelBogota/.

Paisas https://www.facebook.com/paisascluboficial/.

Loutron https://www.facebook.com/loutronbogota.

Fiebre https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/583407471/colombia/bogota-colombia/fiebre-club/.

Angelos VIP: https://angelos.com.co/.

Lido: Do they have a web site? Address? This suppose to be the most high end club with girls asking 500 K.

Absolut Spa https://www.absolutspa.com.co/instalaciones/.


Hi everyone,

Been ages since I was in South America and up for company. I am in Bogota for the 1st time for a few days and staying at a hotel that is not guest friendly.

Wondering what my best option for a brothel nearby. I am not so adventurous and willing to pay a premium for upscale experiences. I speak only a bit of Spanish so Ingls friendly is a plus.

What are the best high end brothel / clubs in town that are actually open these days? Bonus points for closeness to Zona T / Chico / Chapinero. Even a high end spa with HJ opportunities would be good for me.

Sorry for the last minute outreach. This trip came together very fast.

Tobey.

[JumpOver]

Hey Mtljay,

Thanks for this. Was already wondering about Absolute since it is close by. Being basically chicken shit when I don't know the ciudad and I am rolling solo, I will probably do a day drop in there.

There were a couple of spots next to each other on Calle 86 a that I had heard about but now I can't find the post I had read up on. Will be near there for dinner tonight. Who knows. Might get up a head of steam.

Really appreciate the details.

Tobey.


I am like you (Never been to Bogota, but going in a month and am willing to pay a premium for upscale experiences. ) and with all the research I have done on this group here is the list I have come up with for clubs / spas to find girls who are better looking.

Since I have never been to Bogota I will let the experienced mongers comment on these.

Flirt Hotel: https://www.facebook.com/FlirtHotelBogota/.

Paisas https://www.facebook.com/paisascluboficial/.

Loutron https://www.facebook.com/loutronbogota.

Fiebre https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/583407471/colombia/bogota-colombia/fiebre-club/..

[TiaVoyage25]

Gentlemen,

I will be visiting Bogota once again here in a couple weeks. I will be on ground for about a week. My trip last year was unceremoniously cut short due to the mayor of Bogota deciding to lock down the city on short notice. It was not a pleasant experience.

In any case, I am quite experienced with the Bogota scene and have had a lot of time to consolidate my thoughts to compare it to Brazil. I shall elaborate. I am a fan of nice things. I will happily pay a premium for convenience if it means my time can be spent that much better. In Brazil, there is a clear delineation between upscale and the opposite thereof in terms of the quality of women. In Rio and Sao Paulo alike, the quality of the girl you will find is largely correlated with the quality of the venue. Of course, it goes without saying that you can find a diamond in the rough in some of the rougher establishments if you put in the work. I MUST give the caveat that I have a specific type of Brazilian girl that I like (brancas with big bundas, the porn star type) so you have to know where to go to find them. Different strokes for different folks.

This is NOT how it works in Colombia.

As members of this board have said time and time again, the quality difference between girls in the dirt pit that is SF and those working in the luxury clubs in the north is marginal. In fact, many of the girls in the clubs in SF work in the clubs in the north too. The marginal difference, to me, a person who materially doesn't care about spending more money for better quality and a better experience, is negligible. It is so negligible that I have a hard time justifying going north at all other than to visit some nice restaurants or if I want a nice massage. I will be spending most of my time in SF. Why? Because it just makes sense. If you will be in Bogota from roughly March 13-20 ish and want to hang out, feel free to send me a PM. My Spanish is horrendous but those who know me know I'm a great wingman. Who doesn't want to hang around with a young guy to help them pick up ladies LOL.

Oh, and take the Woodman tour. It's worth it's weight in gold.

Tia.

[Igor54]

I am like you (Never been to Bogota, but going in a month and am willing to pay a premium for upscale experiences. ) and with all the research I have done on this group here is the list I have come up with for clubs / spas to find girls who are better looking.

Since I have never been to Bogota I will let the experienced mongers comment on these.

Flirt Hotel: https://www.facebook.com/FlirtHotelBogota/.

Paisas https://www.facebook.com/paisascluboficial/.

Loutron https://www.facebook.com/loutronbogota.

Fiebre https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/583407471/colombia/bogota-colombia/fiebre-club/.

Angelos VIP: https://angelos.com.co/.

Lido: Do they have a web site? Address? This suppose to be the most high end club with girls asking 500 K.

Absolut Spa https://www.absolutspa.com.co/instalaciones/.Why do you think that your research is the best? Just SF clubs are OK.

[Mtljay]

Why do you think that your research is the best? Just SF clubs are OK.I Never said my research is best.

[Woodman09]

Hi everyone,…

Wondering what my best option for a brothel nearby. I am not so adventurous and willing to pay a premium for upscale experiences. I speak only a bit of Spanish so Ingls friendly is a plus.

What are the best high end brothel / clubs in town that are actually open these days? Bonus points for closeness to Zona T / Chico / Chapinero. Even a high end spa with HJ opportunities would be good for me.

Sorry for the last minute outreach. This trip came together very fast..Monday during the day check out la mezzanine, there are a few shops in this building, many posts on here about this place for you to read.

https://spapremiumcolombia.wixsite.com/masajes

[JumpOver]

Will do. Thanks for the recommendation. The website makes it look like one Spa. Is this a make appointment first place.

Or just drop in? I'll read through the forum on it.


Monday during the day check out la mezzanine, there are a few shops in this building, many posts on here about this place for you to read.

https://spapremiumcolombia.wixsite.com/masajes

[FlagRunner77]

Hi all.

I'm hoping to travel to Bogota in May. I'm working through the prevous pages of this forum. But I'm starting with very little knowledge. I had planned Medellin last year but that fell through due to work commitments. This time, I was planning a trip to Havana, and I've spent a month or so planning for that, but I'm going cold on the idea, especially as I'll be flying from the US so have the extra hassle that entails.

I started looking at Medellin but the cost of flights are almost double what they are to literally anywhere else in the area (like $1,000+ CAD). Flights to Bogota are half the price. I can take a cheap internal flight but I only have 6 days as it is and don't want to lose another day or two to internal travel. So, Bogota it is!

Just wondering if anyone has any intel on any facebook profiles to start hunting for friends? There is a good network for Medellin to get started but I haven't been able to find anything similar for Bogota. I had lined up a number of very good potentials for my Medellin trip through facebook trawling. All I need is a profile or two to get started. Can anyone help?

So far, from what I've read, Mezzanine is high on my list of places to visit. I'm also hoping to get an airbnb and look to some of the escort sites and (hopefully) FB. I don't want to go down the SA route if I can avoid it.

I'm not really a club guy but will check out SF also. Woodman, if you are around in May, and don't mind, I would like to hit you up for some company!

If anyone else is likely to be there during the last couple of weeks of May, let me know too. I haven't been to Colombia before, so it is a little intimidating as a solo traveller. I've been to many mongering destinations (Tijuana, Germany, Netherlands, Thailand) but Colombia is a whole other ball game!

Thanks!

[Mr Enternational]

I can take a cheap internal flight but I only have 6 days as it is and don't want to lose another day or two to internal travel.How do you lose a day or 2? The flight from Bogota to Medellin is 30 minutes. Facebook is a Medellin thing, not a Bogota thing.

[Woodman09]

Will do. Thanks for the recommendation. The website makes it look like one Spa. Is this a make appointment first place.

Or just drop in? I'll read through the forum on it.That is a website for one shop- All are drop in- there are a few on the 2nd floor-- see photos on this link.

There are some others in North-- Check the board -- Many posts to read through the forum about.

https://colombia.adultsearch.com/bogota/erotic-massage-parlor

[MaryTheLamb]

So long time lurker. Finally decided to say something.

I was in Bogota Jan. 30 - Feb 17.

Saw 4 girls out there.

1 white short brunette. OMG had me in love. It was at like apartment kind of situation / paid her 70 k pesos for like 45 minutes, and gave her 50 k for BBJ/ great experience / had a nice talk after / really good vibes, was going to see her again but most of these girls work like 9-5 / or 10-7 and then go home to the outskirts of the city.

Saw 2 girls at a place I saw was recommended on here. Like around 66 calle idk excatly. Paid 10 k to enter. Then 50 k was the base.

Name were like Antonella and idk the other.

1 brown short skinny venni it was mechanical not much fun / was bored with her and saw the other girl.

She was tall brown sexy Colombia and paid like 30 k for BBJ and 20 k for kisses. BBJ was alright not much kisses. She was sexy this so wasn't hard to bust a nut. It was rushed so whack.

And the last girl I saw was at Santa Fe. I'm not going to lie it was intimidating see all those girls out there like they really all just out there and its kinda like hard to choose and I always felt like if I choose one I would be missing out on another so I went by twice separate times and days until I found the one.

She was 22 venni and OMG sexy / it was like 45 k for the room and her / and I wanted to record it but she was like no face so lame / but still paid 50 k to record which ended up being a waste bc video was trash. And after that I busted and she was coolz.

My overall experience .

Quantity over quality is pretty much Colombia. You going to see a lot of bad bitches but are they going to make you feel loved and cared for ehhhh hard to find. Besides the first girl I saw. It wasn't much fun.

I wanted to see these other girls high class. But they were all flakes and that sucked.

Deff would go back but only till I can afford to see like 10 300 k chicas in a day.

[Steve 9696]

Hi all.

I'm hoping to travel to Bogota in May. I'm working through the prevous pages of this forum. But I'm starting with very little knowledge. I had planned Medellin last year but that fell through due to work commitments. This time, I was planning a trip to Havana, and I've spent a month or so planning for that, but I'm going cold on the idea, especially as I'll be flying from the US so have the extra hassle that entails.

I started looking at Medellin but the cost of flights are almost double what they are to literally anywhere else in the area (like $1,000+ CAD). Flights to Bogota are half the price. I can take a cheap internal flight but I only have 6 days as it is and don't want to lose another day or two to internal travel. So, Bogota it is!

Just wondering if anyone has any intel on any facebook profiles to start hunting for friends? There is a good network for Medellin to get started but I haven't been able to find anything similar for Bogota. I had lined up a number of very good potentials for my Medellin trip through facebook trawling. All I need is a profile or two to get started. Can anyone help?

So far, from what I've read, Mezzanine is high on my list of places to visit. I'm also hoping to get an airbnb and look to some of the escort sites and (hopefully) FB. I don't want to go down the SA route if I can avoid it.

I'm not really a club guy but will check out SF also. Woodman, if you are around in May, and don't mind, I would like to hit you up for some company!

If anyone else is likely to be there during the last couple of weeks of May, let me know too. I haven't been to Colombia before, so it is a little intimidating as a solo traveller. I've been to many mongering destinations (Tijuana, Germany, Netherlands, Thailand) but Colombia is a whole other ball game!

Thanks!Here's a tip for you if you want to go to Medellin. Don't try to book it from your Canadian city to MDE. Instead book two separate round trips. One to Miami or Ft Lauderdale and one from there to Medellin. This could come out to be half or less. The one way fare from Ft Lauderdale to MDE direct is $95!

This tip actually works worldwide as well. You can often save $700 or more when traveling internationally when you manually put your flights together. Esp if you put an overnight in the connecting city. Even with hotel it can come out way less.

[FlagRunner77]

How do you lose a day or 2? The flight from Bogota to Medellin is 30 minutes. Facebook is a Medellin thing, not a Bogota thing.Thanks, that's a shame. I guess SA it is.

I mean that I will lose the first night in MDE and then will fly back the day before my flight from Bogota back home. So I'll lose the first and last night in MDE, which takes me to only 4 nights in MDE. Yes, I can spend those nights in Bogota, but you have the transit / airport / flight / settling into new hotel time, which does add up. It just seems a lot of extra time wasted for a 6-day trip.

[LatinaLover#1]

Thanks, that's a shame. I guess SA it is.

I mean that I will lose the first night in MDE and then will fly back the day before my flight from Bogota back home. So I'll lose the first and last night in MDE, which takes me to only 4 nights in MDE. Yes, I can spend those nights in Bogota, but you have the transit / airport / flight / settling into new hotel time, which does add up. It just seems a lot of extra time wasted for a 6-day trip.I have done many, many 5 or 6 day trips to South America. I have always counted my day of arrival and return as a lost day and never tried to cram in another city into a short trip. However, some guys travel very lite and if you have the good fortune of the flight schedules falling into perfect place, it might work. Be safe.

[Zeos1]

Hi all.

I'm hoping to travel to Bogota in May. I'm working through the prevous pages of this forum. But I'm starting with very little knowledge. I had planned Medellin last year but that fell through due to work commitments. This time, I was planning a trip to Havana, and I've spent a month or so planning for that, but I'm going cold on the idea, especially as I'll be flying from the US so have the extra hassle that entails.

I started looking at Medellin but the cost of flights are almost double what they are to literally anywhere else in the area (like $1,000+ CAD). Flights to Bogota are half the price. I can take a cheap internal flight but I only have 6 days as it is and don't want to lose another day or two to internal travel. So, Bogota it is!

Just wondering if anyone has any intel on any facebook profiles to start hunting for friends? There is a good network for Medellin to get started but I haven't been able to find anything similar for Bogota. I had lined up a number of very good potentials for my Medellin trip through facebook trawling. All I need is a profile or two to get started. Can anyone help?

So far, from what I've read, Mezzanine is high on my list of places to visit. I'm also hoping to get an airbnb and look to some of the escort sites and (hopefully) FB. I don't want to go down the SA route if I can avoid it.

I'm not really a club guy but will check out SF also. Woodman, if you are around in May, and don't mind, I would like to hit you up for some company!

If anyone else is likely to be there during the last couple of weeks of May, let me know too. I haven't been to Colombia before, so it is a little intimidating as a solo traveller. I've been to many mongering destinations (Tijuana, Germany, Netherlands, Thailand) but Colombia is a whole other ball game!

Thanks!Depending on your arrival time in Bogota you should be able to find a flight to Medellin same day. There are many flight usually. And generally they were less than 100 dollars one way, sometimes much less. I understand that on the return flight you would want to be in Bogota the day before. Keeps options open in case you miss the flight back to Bog or something.

Be sure your Airbnb allows guests if you want that. Only way to know is to ask the host. "House rules" on airbnb will sometimes be clear (be sure to scroll down or check more until you get to the end of rules), but even then it is better to ask.

Heads up on "mezzanine" massage place versus SF. They are a long ways apart. Bogota is a big city. Taxi is best option for a short stay in Bogota.

[Voodoo Jones]

Here are some of my tips and observations while in Bogota.

Uber is my preferred mode of transportation, especially if you don't speak Spanish. The prices are great and given upfront. Keep in mind when it rains, it's harder to get one. I had to use Cabify once when Uber took too long. I heard changing the payment method to cash will help, but I didn't try it.

Be wary of the taxi drivers at the airport. Some will try to charge you more because you've just arrived and don't know the prices. Ask them upfront. An hour drive only cost me 20 K + tip on Uber.

Definitely try out as many restaurants as you can. The food is cheap and there's a lot of variety. Use Google Maps to find different ones near you. If you want delivery, download Rappi app. Tipping at restaurants is 10% and added to the bill if you ask. Some places will call it "service included" or "voluntary tip". I used the Google translation app to ask for voluntary tip most of the time. Meals are cheap, so tips are just a few dollars and always appreciated by the staff.

Colombians dress nicer than Americans. The only people I saw in sweats are younger guys and people going to the gym. You don't need to dress up though. I pretty much wore what I wear on business casual Fridays: casual button-up, polo, sweater, jeans, chinos, and boots / sneakers. You could pretty much go anywhere with those combinations. I wore t-shirts too, so it's not like you need to follow any dress code. I dressed a little more nicely when I went on a dinner date with two girls. But it was just a dress shirt that I tucked into black chinos. I would also recommend boots because Colombians are shorter than Westerners and woman considered me tall even though I'm 5'10. With boots, I'm closer to 6 feet and they liked it.

[Aureliano16]

Has someone ever been in the massage parlors inside the El Dorado Lounge, the VIP room in the Bogota airport? I'm here now, alone, and there was a cute girl insisting me so much about a massage. She told me she would do it "super rico why super especial" and smiled to me all the time. But I'm so sure there won't be sex involved here, and I wouldn't pay for just a massage. I'm guessing she was just the average good mood Colombian girl trying to sell an overpriced massage without sex nor happy ending. But if someone has experience I'd love to know.


I am like you (Never been to Bogota, but going in a month and am willing to pay a premium for upscale experiences. ) and with all the research I have done on this group here is the list I have come up with for clubs / spas to find girls who are better looking.

Since I have never been to Bogota I will let the experienced mongers comment on these.

Flirt Hotel: https://www.facebook.com/FlirtHotelBogota/.

Paisas https://www.facebook.com/paisascluboficial/.

Loutron https://www.facebook.com/loutronbogota.

Fiebre https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/583407471/colombia/bogota-colombia/fiebre-club/..The list is not complete at all, many, many sites missing. But yes it's hard to gather them all.

I've been to most of the places in your list so here are my comments:

High end sites.

Lido: Too expensive and the same girls you find on other places.

Flirt Hotel: Never been there.

Loutron: A bit expensive for Colombian standards, but girls are fine. Best rooms if you care about that.

Middle Tier.

Absolut Spa: Massage Parlor. You will find the greatest amount of good looking girls for sure here. No need to "hunt", you just ask for a "presentación" and you will have 10 or more gorgeous girls modeling for you. The hardest is to remember the names of all the girls you'd love to fuck. Also goes on the expensive side by Colombian standards though.

Angelos VIP: A night club. So it's better to go on Friday or Saturday night. More expensive that SF but not as expensive as the other sites above.

Low cost.

Fiebre, Paisas, Troya: These are all night clubs in the SF neighborhood. As others have said already you can find stunning girls there for just 70 k or 80 k, but you need to hunt. There are also many girls I wouldn't fuck for free there. If you actually go upstairs to the rooms with one of the girls here it will be a very quick 10-15 minutes fuck. You need to take their private numbers if you want to truly enjoy their bodies.


Why do you think that your research is the best? Just SF clubs are OK.Wow no need to be rude, dude. Mtljay did an ok job there. Yes many missing places but it's hard to find updated information about all the prostitution there is in Bogota. SF might be best if you speak spanish and are able to get girls' numbers and convince them to go to your hotel room. If you can't do that you will fuck cheaply but for just for 10-15 minutes. Idk about you, but I like to have more time to truly enjoy a woman's body. I like to kiss them in the mouth, pussy, even eat their assess if we are going to do anal and if I see them clean (and the best for that is to make them shower in your own private room).


Monday during the day check out la mezzanine, there are a few shops in this building, many posts on here about this place for you to read.

https://spapremiumcolombia.wixsite.com/masajesAs I said in another post I recently (February 2022) went to ALL the mezanines and couldn't find a girl I'd pay to fuck. Before the pandemic I had been in mezanines many times, maybe I was unlucky that day, or maybe the pandemic killed those sites. Some of them BTW went total bankrupt.

To the Medellin guy: I agree with you. 5 days is not enough to go to Bogota AND Medellin. I'd also stay just in Bogota. You need to take into account the airport is not in Medellin but in Rionegro, so you need a 2 hour car drive from Rionegro to Medellin and back. Also airports worldwide suck, even if the flight is 30 minutes long you waste so much time and money going to the airport going through all the security checks, lines etc. I'd also just stick to one city for a short trip.

[ApplesApples]

Went last night, had a coupe drinks at some tiny bar without a name and then went into Troya, was nice good amount of girls. Went into Paisas and was surprised there wasn't anyone inside (no girls, no customers, nothing) I know it was a Monday night but still was surprised.

Went back into Troya and got a dance by a girl and few more drinks but went home relatively early. Tonight I'll probably check out Pussy House or go back to Santa Fe to check out Fiebre.

[Igor54]

Went last night, had a coupe drinks at some tiny bar without a name and then went into Troya, was nice good amount of girls. Went into Paisas and was surprised there wasn't anyone inside (no girls, no customers, nothing) I know it was a Monday night but still was surprised.

Went back into Troya and got a dance by a girl and few more drinks but went home relatively early. Tonight I'll probably check out Pussy House or go back to Santa Fe to check out Fiebre.I'm going at the end of March, please please write a review.

[Igor54]

Has someone ever been in the massage parlors inside the El Dorado Lounge, the VIP room in the Bogota airport? I'm here now, alone, and there was a cute girl insisting me so much about a massage. She told me she would do it "super rico why super especial" and smiled to me all the time. But I'm so sure there won't be sex involved here, and I wouldn't pay for just a massage. I'm guessing she was just the average good mood Colombian girl trying to sell an overpriced massage without sex nor happy ending. But if someone has experience I'd love to know.

The list is not complete at all, many, many sites missing. But yes it's hard to gather them all.

I've been to most of the places in your list so here are my comments:

High end sites...It's a good info, the only problem is; #1 no one can say who will work at any casa today until a girl come to work. #2 It is better to be #1 dick of the day than #2 (at least for some people) #3 My experience: I fucked a pole dancer at Paisas one day and I was #1 dick on that day and she was 7/10. The next day was Sunday and that was slow anywhere and that was around 5 pm. I texted the same pole dancer, and she repyed that she is at the Paisa club now. And 15 min later I saw her. I fucked her but she was like she had 10-15 dicks before me + no shower. That is why, my opinion on the subject: you can go to any place or website, if you have past experience how to deal and how to book girls, you are OK. + I buy Bogota girls at photoprepagos and online agencies for 5-10 years. I see 90% of the same pics and the same profiles as 5 years ago. If you know 5 month can make a huge difference how a girl looks. She can be 10/10 and 5 months later, I don't want fuck her even if she pay me some money.

[Igor54]

Went last night, had a coupe drinks at some tiny bar without a name and then went into Troya, was nice good amount of girls. Went into Paisas and was surprised there wasn't anyone inside (no girls, no customers, nothing) I know it was a Monday night but still was surprised.

Went back into Troya and got a dance by a girl and few more drinks but went home relatively early. Tonight I'll probably check out Pussy House or go back to Santa Fe to check out Fiebre.In my experience Paisas are closed on some days because there are no clients. On the same days Troya is opened but very slow. They pay to a few dancers, to come and dance with big intervals but even in the men's wash room they try to save on the utility bill, there is no water at the washroom.

[Igor54]

Has someone ever been in the massage parlors inside the El Dorado Lounge, the VIP room in the Bogota airport? I'm here now, alone, and there was a cute girl insisting me so much about a massage. She told me she would do it "super rico why super especial" and smiled to me all the time. But I'm so sure there won't be sex involved here, and I wouldn't pay for just a massage. I'm guessing she was just the average good mood Colombian girl trying to sell an overpriced massage without sex nor happy ending. But if someone has experience I'd love to know.

The list is not complete at all, many, many sites missing. But yes it's hard to gather them all.

I've been to most of the places in your list so here are my comments:

High end sites.

Lido: Too expensive and the same girls you find on other places.

Flirt Hotel: Never been there.

Loutron: A bit expensive for Colombian standards, but girls are fine. Best rooms if you care about that.I've forgotten. In addition, I believe, most visitors here are looking for some useful info and not some motivational staff "you can do it we can help", because the first time visitor is reading the first time visitors' reviews and if that experience was good they make wrong conclusions and waste their valuable trip time on useless moves. On other side, there are a ton of mongers who tried to follow a motivational advice and got less than average experience (wasted their trip). But unfortunately they don't share their experiences here.

[ArmnHammer69]

In my experience Paisas are closed on some days because there are no clients. On the same days Troya is opened but very slow. They pay to a few dancers, to come and dance with big intervals but even in the men's wash room they try to save on the utility bill, there is no water at the washroom.Early week is really slow in Santa Fe. Typically I always fly in on Thursday night to Bogotá and party 3 great nights in Santa Fe then fly to medellin on Sunday for some sun and warmth. Over the past 3 trips I have built a collection of what's app contact numbers for slower days. Tinder plus works as well. I've matched a lot of girls. Also if you search their instagram and follow them.

If they post it on tinder. I have pulled a few gorgeous girls just by commenting on their story or pictures with a heart and compliment. Five minutes later I'm given their what's app and the run down. Monday to Wednesday is good at la Isla girls club in medellin lots of girls and the ratio of customers to girls is beneficial. Otherwise on weekends your dreams Girl will be already shacked up sitting with a group of guys getting drunk. . I find they have better girls on the weekdays but park lleras is slower. Illeras is only good on weekends.

[SankarShetty]

There is ton of information on Santa Fe but minimal information on other areas.

Maps suggest street action in Barrio Carvajal area and about 3-5 casas / bars and 2 strip clubs but I have not seen any recent reviews of this area.

Also calle 62 and calle 67 in Capinero has street scene marked on the map along with good number of motels and casas. Can anyone comment or have recently visited any of these areas?

[JackTaggart]

Hey guys,

Bogota is popping my solo trip cherry starting March 14-17. Still exploring places to stay but I'm thinking a hotel in the Tuquendama suites / hotel. Any updates advice for a first time solo traveler? If you're in the area and want a wingman, I'd be happy to accompany you.Hey,

I tried to message you to coordinate but it looks like you don't have a subscription. We cannot coordinate in the open forum here. There are gas station bitcoin ATMs now that make it super easy.

I can't help with hotel recommendations, but would love to have a wingman. I have been 2 times before.

[ApplesApples]

Went again last night after 9 after dinner with co-workers. Hit up Troya, Paisas Fiebre and Venus.

Troya was good as always, had a drink with a couple girls but wasn't vibing so moved on. Paisas still completely dead (I remember it differently from when I was last year a week before covid, but now I'm not sure I'm going to keep giving it a chance). Feibre was ridiculously packed, couldn't even find a seat, they have a good constant show of girls dancing though without a long wait in between like in Troya and also some great girls, but it was crazy packed so I wasn't feeling it. Lastly went to Venus which was new for me it reminded me of Tropical in Tijuana has ever been, girls a little rung below the hottest but the vibe was much better a lot of dancing on and off with many girls (didn't need to get them a drink or anything) and in general just a fun time. Ended up taking this tiiny girl (my type) upstairs,.

[Mr Enternational]

the first time visitor is reading the first time visitors' reviews and if that experience was good they make wrong conclusions and waste their valuable trip time on useless moves. On other side, there are a ton of mongers who tried to follow a motivational advice and got less than average experience (wasted their trip). But unfortunately they don't share their experiences here.But that is called life. Just because we have the same opportunity, does not mean we will have the same outcome. Because you went to school and studied botany and earn $1 million dollars, does not mean I will make $1 million dollars if I went to the same school and was in all the same classes with you.

Same as there is no read this book and you are guaranteed to become rich, there is no read this post and you are guaranteed to have a great time.

[Frogg]

There is ton of information on Santa Fe but minimal information on other areas.

Maps suggest street action in Barrio Carvajal area and about 3-5 casas / bars and 2 strip clubs but I have not seen any recent reviews of this area.

Also calle 62 and calle 67 in Capinero has street scene marked on the map along with good number of motels and casas. Can anyone comment or have recently visited any of these areas?There is street action on calle 67 between carrera 21 & 22, however it is small scale and quality not too good. That area has a lot of daytime 'casas', especially going east towards Ave Caracas, they're a better bet.

The street scene on calle 62 as indicated on map is non-existant, that block is full of love motels, but not seedy.

[Igor54]

But that is called life. Just because we have the same opportunity, does not mean we will have the same outcome. Because you went to school and studied botany and earn $1 million dollars, does not mean I will make $1 million dollars if I went to the same school and was in all the same classes with you.

Same as there is no read this book and you are guaranteed to become rich, there is no read this post and you are guaranteed to have a great time.Your "outcome" philosophy is great but only in theory. Any prostitute is thinking in terms of cold cash. They don't care about your Spanish, alfa male or advanced sex skills, dancing skills, etc. They see many dicks every day and their pussy is hearting because of that. If you think that they are looking your outstanding monger's skills, it is in your mind only. The best client is online client, or client who does not have erection, or client who comes in less than one min. Because it's their problem. And the kitty is less stressed and irritated.

[Igor54]

But that is called life. Just because we have the same opportunity, does not mean we will have the same outcome. Because you went to school and studied botany and earn $1 million dollars, does not mean I will make $1 million dollars if I went to the same school and was in all the same classes with you.

Same as there is no read this book and you are guaranteed to become rich, there is no read this post and you are guaranteed to have a great time.In addition, if you think that girls are interested in any of your skills it is easy to check that. Just ask her what do you want: #1 I pay you money and no sex. #2 I pay you the same money and I fuck you using my advanced sex skills and alfa male attitude. Please let us know.

[Igor54]

Early week is really slow in Santa Fe. Typically I always fly in on Thursday night to Bogot and party 3 great nights in Santa Fe then fly to medellin on Sunday for some sun and warmth. Over the past 3 trips I have built a collection of what's app contact numbers for slower days. Tinder plus works as well. I've matched a lot of girls. Also if you search their instagram and follow them.

If they post it on tinder. I have pulled a few gorgeous girls just by commenting on their story or pictures with a heart and compliment. Five minutes later I'm given their what's app and the run down. Monday to Wednesday is good at la Isla girls club in medellin lots of girls and the ratio of customers to girls is beneficial. Otherwise on weekends your dreams Girl will be already shacked up sitting with a group of guys getting drunk. . I find they have better girls on the weekdays but park lleras is slower. Illeras is only good on weekends.In my experience, if I see that a girl that I am interested in is sitting with other customers, I ask the barmen to call her and ask if she wants some money for fucking me. Usually the girls say yes and after me they can have some fun with their friends.

[Igor54]

There is ton of information on Santa Fe but minimal information on other areas.

Maps suggest street action in Barrio Carvajal area and about 3-5 casas / bars and 2 strip clubs but I have not seen any recent reviews of this area.

Also calle 62 and calle 67 in Capinero has street scene marked on the map along with good number of motels and casas. Can anyone comment or have recently visited any of these areas?You are looking for a magic place where the girls are waiting for you. Try to think like you are a native Colombian who lives in Bogota all his life and knows about local prostitutes and casas much more than you have learned here and a lot more than you know from your theoretical youtube videos and books (if you read any). If SF is running slow on most days, that means. Try to make logic conclusions.

[Voodoo Jones]

I'll be back in Bogota in exactly 4 weeks for a long weekend. I had no plans on returning so soon, but I want to see those 3 girls again. Might as well strike while the iron's hot.

The first SA girl and her friend will accompany me to this resort town a couple hours outside the city for the weekend. Then I'll spend at least one day with the other SA girl back in Bogota.

[Mr Enternational]

Your "outcome" philosophy is great but only in theory. Any prostitute is thinking in terms of cold cash. They don't care about your Spanish, alfa male or advanced sex skills, dancing skills, etc. They see many dicks every day and their pussy is hearting because of that. If you think that they are looking your outstanding monger's skills, it is in your mind only. The best client is online client, or client who does not have erection, or client who comes in less than one min. Because it's their problem. And the kitty is less stressed and irritated.What are you talking about? I was expounding on your statement that some random monger can not expect to have the same good time that another monger reported having. He must find a way to create his own good time.

[Igor54]

What are you talking about? I was expounding on your statement that some random monger can not expect to have the same good time that another monger reported having. He must find a way to create his own good time.Everyone has his or her scale of happiness. And what is for me 10 for you is 1. What moves me (pay per fuck and move on) for another person, who need dates, admiration, girl's company, exercising of his mongering skills (in his mind) will be a waste of time.

I believe that most visitors who read this forum not looking for "an advanced mongering good time" and not capable to create his own good time, because it's not possible for them considering short trip time, zero Spanish, and another country conditions. Probably, they need solid workflow kind of a woodman's consultation "go there -pay-do. Repeat". That is why, an attempt to create his own good time ends for many as wasted trip time.

[Igor54]

But that is called life. Just because we have the same opportunity, does not mean we will have the same outcome. Because you went to school and studied botany and earn $1 million dollars, does not mean I will make $1 million dollars if I went to the same school and was in all the same classes with you.

Same as there is no read this book and you are guaranteed to become rich, there is no read this post and you are guaranteed to have a great time.I can summarize your philosophy and advice.

Dear mongers,

"We all have equal opportunities. You should find your way to make your $1 million."

[ClockTicking87]

Had a great long weekend last year in Medellin but the prices to go to Medellin are almost double compared to Bogota, never been there before so why not.

I speak perfect Spanish since I was born in Latin America so that's a big help I also don't pass as a gringo (I think).

Did lots of research in this forum as well as the Colombian one (foroprepagoscolombia.com) the maps here were lots of help as well.

Global entry is the best 100 $ you can spent as long your background is clean, safes so much time.

First day Thursday:

Got to Bogota around 2:45 pm, my roaming phone service was a POS, took an uber to my hotel, since I'm a mainly casa guy decided to stay in Chapinero, stayed at hotel Normandy, no elevator clean and simple and only 15 $ a night or 60,000 cop, the hotel was ok.

Walked to spa tantra (cra 20 a 72-30) this place has probably the best deal in town, 80,000 cops for one hour and includes BBBJ, they offer extras like kissing ect, the line up was good and went with Abigail 26 years old Colombiana, had a good session with kissing.

The only thing I don't like about most Bogota casas (99%) they don't have a freaking shower, love that about Medellin, Guadalajara and Spain, in Bogota they spray you with alcohol witch I don't like but it is what it is.

The altitude got me messed up plus the starting of the Ukrainian war, so went to sleep early.

Friday:

Decided to walk around Chapinero casas and was not impressed, I think I just don't like this facilities (chuzos) as the locals call it, still had an ok session with a light skin Colombiana couldn't come cause the rooms were too noisy and small, around 2: pm decided to take an uber to Santa Fe and OMG I was overwhelm by the talent and variety, all kinds of pussy I mean all kinds.

Right away went with a flaca vennie (Rosmary) 19 years old and perfect body, 40,000 cop got to kiss her and the session was really good, was there for around 20 min, went around for more hunting and found this white spinner with pink hair (forgot her name) 40,000 cops great attitude and amazing fuck (porn Starr level) again I knew I had about 20 min, took an uber in front of paisas.

My first impressions of Santa Fe were good, as long as you stay in that perimeter around the clubs you'll be fine as they have police presence and the clubs don't want any ratas around, went inside two clubs but it was slow, I don't like to drink so just ordered Gatorade or water and tipped the server, they were pretty cool, depending the hours can be hard to get an uber.

Saturday:

Went all in to Santa Fe around 1 pm, this beautiful spinner waves at me and there we go, she offers a three some with her supposedly sister and inside we go, the younger one likes to talk too much but they gave me girlfriend experience at no extra cost, best 80,000 I've ever spent. The knock on the door is annoying as hell, walking around again found this vennie and she gave me some attitude but I ignored the signs, this was the only really bad experience during the whole trip, she didn't want to do a BJ saying I didn't negotiated it before hand, she was just horrible, I'm not going to fight for 10 $ so I just moved on, told her what a shamed since most Venezuelans are willing to pleased, went around the corner a little frustrated and found this beautiful lady, white Venezuelan with amazing hands, I told her I was a little frustrated and tired and she treated me like a king, I asked her for an hour session massage for the next day and she quoted me 200,000 cop, told me to buy a body oil for the massage. Did that the next morning.

Saturday around 7 pm decided to go again to tantras spa and had a refreshing session with this vennie, really worthy session, again tantra is the best deal in town. Decided to call it a day, as you can see I'm a sober hardcore monger (I'm also 34 years old) so I can go far.

Sunday:

Got the oil and went straight SF to meet my beautiful lady for the massage, she says she lives there as most girls do in Santa Fe, she offer me a shower for the first time LOL, the water never got warm but at least she tried so no problem, again great hands that are hard to find, she tried to make me come multiple time and I told her no LOL, I'm not trying to be a monogamist, her name is Zara and she is in the same place as the girl with the pink hair.

After Zara I went around and had two compulsive sessions with two more ladies and just couldn't come, I think I was just done with Santa Fe at this point, heard some one saying something similar about it.

I was having lunch every day in Santa Fe with no problems, I even had a haircut LOL, cheapest cut in my life, I think I only saw no more than 4 gringos, sorry I don't like to approach anyone plus I'm a man on a mission.

Went back to Chapinero and decided to go to sleep around 10 pm.

Monday:

I knew I was done with Santa Fe so thankfully I remember reading about the mezzanines so there we go. Took an uber to the dann Carlton hotel since is just one block away. Got me a tostao cafe and upstairs we go, went straight to the side with only one room and immediately love the vive, the rooms were extra small that the girls were hot, went with a flaca Colombiana, 150 30 min over priced but worthy as hell, her name was maybe Mia I don't remember, then went to the other side and all the doors starts opening with the girls jumping at me, decided to just look around since was still tired from the first session, the first room had the best talent in my opinion, again the vive was just different, felt like I was around high class Colombianas or perhaps college students, minutes later comeback for Julieta a Colombiana from cucuta, I almost fell in love with this girl, beautiful from head to toes, made me give her a massage and the chemistry was just there, I'm really glad I found this place.

Went back around my hotel to tantras and got with this Colombian from la costa (close to Cartagena) she was 19 with a banging body just so much lust, awesome session, again back to eat and sleep, Tuesday has to be a hardcore day since is my last full day.

Tuesday:

Went to get my covid test at profamilia Centro de jovenes, 60000 cop and was done in less than an hour, decided to back to the mezzanines just for Julieta, this time she didn't even rubbed me with alcohol LOL, another great session, this is a girl I would be proud to call my girlfriend and I'm very picky, but this girl is sweet and polite, told me she was a cam girl. Not sure about that. Decided to leave the mezzanine because of lulieta LOL, I almost stay at the Dann Carlton the day before but didn't have my passport with me so I just used the bathroom and played the piano, saw a couple of gringos in there.

Back in Chapinero to the ATM and went inside Sixtynine bar just because why not, found this dark skin Dominican looking Talia, she actually works at tantra spa, went with her, first thing she tells me is you can't put your fingers in my vagina cause is not sanitary or something like that but you can kiss me, they don't have beds in this club just sofas, is meant to be like a stripper show room, Talia is 18 years old and I didn't fucked her she fucked me. This was the most intense experience in the whole trip, she is Venezuelan but fucks like a black girl from Sosua, gave her a good tip.

Went back to tantras spa, picked this good looking white Colombian but she is telling me she was sore (WTF) so I told her to go back and went with this tall Venezuelan, I think her name is Tatiana, massive ass (huge) I like flacas but in every trip I like to indulge with massive booties, great session but the only problem was the BBBJ since she had braces and was bothering me but I fucked the shit out of that booty.

After three pops and eating something this is my last day so decided to go to pussy house since is just walking distance from my hotel, its not busy since is a Tuesday but enough talent to have a good time, grabbed a bottle of water and got change to tip the dancers, I loved this atmosphere and wish I came here before, started talking with this beautiful smart Venezuelan, offered her a beer and asked her how things work there, she explained me that there are dancers and then girls who are just escorts, loved to have a conversation and a drink with this lady before fucking, we talked about Medellin and how I don't do drugs and how Tusi make her feels LOL, I can see how this clubs appeals to the locals, after 30 min we decided to go, it was 150 for 30 min including the room, its actually the building next door, surprisingly this was the best room in my whole trip, actually queen side beds with bathrooms but no towels, again great session and feel lucky to be able to have so many great sessions back to back. But its not over yet.

Wednesday:

My flight was for 3:25 pm so I was planning on being around 12 at the airport, decided to have a session at absolut spa around 10:20 am since the open at 10 am, got there and there's only one lady, this woman looks like a high end escort I mean this place charges over 300,000 cop.

She treated me like a king and had a great conversation, she loves to travel and gave me her personal phone and real name, showed me pictures of her travels, if she finds a gringo to pay for her flight and accommodations she is down, I go to Cancun and Punta Cana a lot so I don't mind bringing her LOL.

Sometimes is good to try this high end ladies, she is still texting me as we speak, this spa has a great location with showers but only massage tables.

Went to the airport and it was a smooth experience, had lunch at the Carlos Vives restaurant, no delays I always flight Spirit with no problems or delays, again global entry is the mvp.

The weather in Bogota was not bad just some rain here and there, people wearing jackets like is cold, I was always on a t-shirt, my hotel did my laundry for really cheap, I almost fuck one of the housekeepers but didn't have much time, I'm a pure monger, I almost went out with a tinder girl who gave me her WhatsApp but again I didn't have time for that, if I'm going to be in Bogota for months I see myself hanging with regulars, this is a huge city and the possibilities are endless, I see myself moving here for at least year in the future.

My experience just got better and better as the days passed, I thought Medellin was a huge mongering destination but Bogota is at another level, everything felt cheaper in Bogota for some reason, I didn't got to experience the south of the city which also has lots of mongering spots.

I might forget some things but did my best, I'm thankful for this forum and the people who contributes on their trips, hopefully there's something useful here, Chapinero is the perfect spot for me since is in the center so I can go down to Santa Fe or up to the mezzanine or just stay and hit casas.

[Frogg]

[Forum Complaint deleted by Admin]

To remedy this situation I submit the following:

Last week I was in Bogota, stayed at Hotel Casa de Guillermo near CL. 72 and Ave. Caracas. I found the place through the Booking site, seemed like a decent cost-effective option, close to the 72 Transmilenium station, Chile Financial Center. Also, Bogota Map indicated casa Trantra Spa on the opposite side of the street down one block.

Hotel Guillermo was OK, the room was a bit cramped, and shower curtain had a gap at bottom that allowed water to seep onto bathroom floor, main complaints. I walked around the block before midnight, the streets were empty, did not feel safe, but daytime is safe. Nearby are many restaurant food options, including a produce market.

I can confirm that Tantra Spa is still in business. There was a lady on the corner of Cra. 20 a and CL. 72 passing out flyers for the Spa, and she indicated it was a white door entrance. At the white door, I rang the door bell a few times and nothing happened, but the door was unlocked so I went in and up the stairs. Business was in service and there were several ladies working there. It's a decent place.

Bogota map also indicates that Ron Con Piernas, Chicas Dos Mil, and 70 A Bar are a few blocks down, but I did not visit to see if they're in business, thou it would make this area even more attractive.

Also, a ten minute taxi ride from Guillermo Hotel is Gringo Tuesdays language exchange / night club at Vintrash. I attended, and for me it was too crowded for comfort, victim of its own success. Gringo Tuesdays is advertised as a free event but there was a 10 K cover charge, and the Club Colombia beers were 11 K (expensive by local prices, but gringos can afford).

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[Fudi Maar]

Lately the posts on this thread have been pointless ego-battles, vain philosophising lacking lacking useful info. To remedy this situation I submit the following:

I can confirm that Tantra Spa is still in business.
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Also, a ten minute taxi ride from Guillermo Hotel is Gringo Tuesdays language exchange / night club at Vintrash. I attended, and for me it was too crowded for comfort, victim of its own success. Gringo Tuesdays is advertised as a free event but there was a 10 K cover charge, and the Club Colombia beers were 11 K (expensive by local prices, but gringos can afford).Yes, I have been to Tantra Spa as well, and was pleasantly surprised by it. I was presented 6-8 girls, and I chose one with a big ass. The 'massage' was. Well, she didn't know how to massage, but then again I wasn't there for that. The girl was very pleasant, and gave me a BBBJ, which I was surprised by. She told me that I can have 4 positions and offered extras like CIM, which I took. The basic 30 minute service was 50 K and CIM was an extra 30 K.

I've been to Gringo Tuesdays multiple times, and it's meant to be a 'language exchange' event, but really most people are there to socialize. Which is cool. It gets crowded after 6 pm, and packed by 7 pm with noise levels very high. Then at 8, the tables and chairs are cleared and the place is a turned into a club. There are always lots of attractive Colombianas there "to practice my English". I've gotten a few WhatsApp numbers, but nothing ever came of them.

I've been on Seeking and been bombarded with texts from girls. However the flake rates are mind-blowingly high. One Sun, I had 3 dates lined up. One in the morning, one in the afternoon and another for the evening. All three flaked. And not a single one of them even had the decency to tell me that they are not coming, nor reply to my WhatsApp all day.

After 3 weeks on Seeking, I've banged 3 women from there. A MILF for free (but I'm not keen on repeating, even though she rimmed me), and so-and-so university Vennie, and a lovely, sweet Colombiana who I've seen twice. Seeking takes up hours of my time every day and I'm trying to figure out a way to reduce the flake rates.

A casa which I've been to twice (but where I haven't actually banged a girl) is on Calle 64,15-34. There's around 12-15 chicas, and some nice ones. The interior is quite nice, and there's a good vibe. Beer is 6 K. For some reason, I haven't pulled the trigger here, but will do so next time.

[JohnnyWishBone]

For anyone who has never been to the Santa Fé area of Bogotá, there are a few videos on YouTube which gives you an idea of how the area looks and what is on offer during the day:

https://youtu.be/DlWmuIQgq0c

https://youtu.be/zrgyfCeJL10

They're in Spanish, but for Santa Fé virgins like myself, I found it useful just to know how the streets looked and see the girls on offer. In one of the videos, the guy confirms that a girl offers 15 minutes for 35.000 COP, which is around 9 USD /7 GBP.

I've been watching similar videos of El Centro in Medellíand but I'll post in the Medellíand forum.

Hopefully this will be useful for those less experienced in the Santa Fé area.

[Golfinho]

I can summarize your philosophy and advice.

Dear mongers,

"We all have equal opportunities. You should find your way to make your $1 million.Addenda: "and if you can't get anything going, join the military."

[GMoney582]

Anybody know a good weed connect in Bogota?

[Frogg]

Anybody know a good weed connect in Bogota?At Parque de los Hippies, along 7th Ave and CL. 60, there are supposed to be informal weed venders. (I got this tip form a Vice News report a while back that I'm unable to locate.) In Bogota they call the weed 'crippa.' When I went to this Hippies Park some years ago, indeed there was a scruffy looking guy hawking 'crippa,' which was not very good, had stems and seeds like 1990s Mexican dirt weed we called 'stress' back then. At the park, sales are done low profile, since there is a police presence there. I don't know what you'd find today.

[Frogg]

CoolGregg responded to my post about Tantra Spa in PM, but his inbox is full, so can't reply back. I've decided to publicly post his message with my response since I think it contains useful info (if Gregg objects to this, my apologies).

CoolGregg wrote:"Spa Tantra. Oh man. Did you like that spa? I went their last Saturday around 1 pm. It was a cesspool place. In presentation I saw 10 chicas. All the chicas were like 3 to 5. I picked one 5, when she got nude it was like 3. They press boobs and belly with clothing. Rooms were dirty. They put one small piece of cloth pretending it is washed on top of the mattress. There were stains on sheet. Girls don't take showers after or before, use wipes to clean a little bit after. I used bathroom, no soap available. Top of that, chick heckled for tip. That was my experience. I stayed on Carrera 10 and Calle 55."

My response: Yes, I liked the place and had a good time. I didn't write that in the post because I try to keep subjective opinions at minimum and be factual. I only wrote that it was decent, which is not saying much.

When I went, there were about 10 chicas as you mentioned. I found most of them attractive--you did not. I actually got the names mixed up and choose a wrong one. In room, wrong chica's face was not too pretty, but when clothes came off, body was awesome, and she knew how to fuck, no hassel for tip afterward.

Maybe it helps that I speak Spanish at native level, establishes rapport quickly. I imagine lack of Spanish would be more challenging, different outcome. Also, my standards don't seem to be too high, lol.

I liked that they lay down a sheet, didn't notice any stains nor other hygiene issues, girl seemed clean and didn't smell bad, good enough for me.

You went and had a bad time, I went and had a good time. So what about the next guy? Clearly, it can go either way.

This casa was like most others ones, not outstanding or unusual, except door bell doesn't seem to work.

[CoolGregg]

Arrived early morning on Thursday. Immigration and custom was super easy. 20 min Total. Took a Uber Straight to Hotel. Nice area quiet on corre 6 & Calle 26. Kind a like new hotel. They did good job remodeling. Woke up late had nice breakfast at hotel. Went to cambio got 3850 for 1 usd. Then straight to Santa Fe. Strolled around. Picked up maria for 50 mil for one leche. She was near Las Vegas residencias. Not a good place. Had good session. No rush from chica but hotel knocks at door within 15 min. Even though you pay for 30 min. I recommend stay away from this place. Wander around just to get the lay of ground for night visit. Took a second lap picked up 1 vennie, she was a bit drama in room. That was a bit mood turn off for me. She tried to gave me a BJ. But could not finish in time. So I did not extend the session after cleaning myself in cold water left place in search of lunch. Ended up picking El virrey. Nice joint. After lunch went to local shop to recharge my sim. I paid 20 mil peso for data only. I don't know what she did in the computer. It did not work. Nice lady though. She is trying to get help from other staff in store to fix problems. No body knows. After half an hour waiting I did not want to waste much time I went to another local shop to recharge. I paid again 20 or 30 mil peso. She couldn't load the data. She tried calling customer service. I was like que pena con mi. She suggested that I should go to claro service center on corr 8 #45. Mean time my scheduled date arrived and was waiting for me downstairs at hotel. She was all panicking as can not contact me. Finally claro figured out and off I go. When I checked my phone had 20 miss calls and WA txt from her. Back to hotel and front desk checked her in. Took shower together. She gives me nice BBBJ and off we go at each other. After first round we drank scotch and cleaned up our selves and we make second round. Now she was getting into mood, and wanted to go for third round. I was like if I waste to many leche on one chick the next one will not get enough. So I ended session on nice 150 mil peso and 10 mil propina. No rush from her. I felt tired And exhausted due to altitude or scotch don't know. So after dinner went to bed early. Next day took a stroll after breakfast in Santa Fe. Picked up Jessica at he hotel she was standing at 9 ish am. Super nice girl she even told cleaning boy at hotel don't rush us before entering room. Now that's the girl I want to get engaged. She was sweetie pie. Had nice memorable session. Got nuemero and while I was about to leave place show nice spinner name Tatiana. Talked to her a little bit and got no. Wandered around in Santa Fe and did not like talents came back to hotel for nice nap. Went back to Santa Fe, for new talent acquisition. It stared down pouring for 1 or more. It rains a lot here. If you are lucky if you can see the sun. I was soaked and wet. Went back to hotel. Changed up and Later in the afternoon met new friends at plaza Bolvar in down town. Had great time wandering around. We planned to have party night but Did not go accordingly. So late night I made a round in Santa Fe and needed my last nut of that day. Ended up choosing fibre. Good 1 rato for 100 mil total. Next day I checked out and went to chapinero area. Oh boy then it went all crazy from here. I had one chick came from 2 hours south showed up without seedula. Now what. Here she is trying to convince security about her character. Haha. They did not budge. So we are on street asking some people about some local office location to get her seedula print out. Luckily it was not busy. Finally we made back to place. First thing is to shower and some drink and off we go. After 4 rounds of happiness she felt a sleep. She did not want to go home. So I took her out for brunch and bought her daughter cookies and send her home. Next few days I visited pussy house, divas, Angelo, rosquilas, club 69. Whiskeria 49, you name it. Travelled through transmileno up north all the casas up to mezzanine. They are expensive but you get what you paid for. Overall it is getting expensive compare to last trip as prices on rise. It rains almost every few hours. People are nice and lots of Venezuelan vendors. Bought food for some homeless people.

[CoolGregg]

Ohhh forgot about Tatiana. So after I got her no. And chatted for couple of days. Ended up meeting Monday night. The deal was 150 mil for 2 hours only one way taxi. She showed up with her friend. I felt like buy one get one free deal. After checking in with security, which they kind a gave me a look this time, we took shower first and enjoying our company. Now this girls were really into fun. They are taking turns and telling me. Dale. How I should bang one more then other. That was weird. They did not want to leave so late night I kicked them out. Next day they wanted me to go to Monserrat with them. Sweet girls. I did not pay for any SA, tinder or cupid app. My Spanish is survival level.

[ArmnHammer69]

Anybody know a good weed connect in Bogota?Hey bro if you need drugs just ask a girl in Santa Fe for it when your wth her. Give her a little extra and ask for the good stuff.

[RakSopheni]

I'm spending a week exclusively in Santa Fe and will be filing a couple of reports. I'm a mid- 40's, fit white guy with experience mongering in several countries including Colombia. I have visited Santa Fe twice before but each time only really scratched the surface. My goal with this trip is to see how much uncovered action can be negotiated with the street and club girls and to ultimately decide if Santa Fe is a viable option going forward. Please note, I am not a tinder, SA, facebook guy and so my posts will not touch on those strategies. If they work for you, that's fantastic- please continue making them work. My main objection is that on a short stay, too much time is wasted dealing with the screening, set-up, flaking, and other problems that are much easier to deal with on a longer term basis. My guess is that for consistent uncovered service, SA is likely the superior option, but the cost in time and hassle is very high and again- not feasible for a week trip.

Traveling to Colombia at this time is quite easy. Don't forget your vaccination card and that silly Check Mig app (briefly scanned by the immigration officer). This time I flew Avianca and did not check bags or pay for carry-on, cramming all my belongings into a "personal item" that I stowed under my seat. This saves a lot of money- the cheap ticket price that lures you is often doubled by the time you pay for luggage.

I opted to stay at an inexpensive airbnb ($20 a night) situated half-way between Santa Fe and Carrera 7 a short five minute walk to each. Carrera 7 is a great pedestrian walkway that will take you all the way to the Museo de Oro and Plaza Bolivar. There are many places to eat inexpensively, access an ATM, and find drug stores for other needs. This is where you should do your civilian things if you stay in this neighborhood.

In the other direction is Santa Fe. Much has been written here about how "ghetto" or dangerous this neighborhood is and I'm not going to sugar coat it- it is a dump. A warren of about 3 x3 blocks full of dingy motels, potholes, drug dealers, prostitutes, an endless procession of bikers and taxis and roaming homeless young Venezuelan men- its a mongers paradise. I tend to feel that Santa Fe itself is not terribly dangerous but the area due south and south west should be avoided.

Danger can be mitigated by not standing out- I'm a pasty white guy with a bald / shaved head but I fit in quite easily by putting a baseball cap over the white dome, and dressing like a local with jeans and an adidas track jacket. With a mask over my face I'm rarely eyeballed and just assumed to be a local. Aside from wardrobe, just don't get stupid drunk, wear fancy clothes or items, and generally don't be an ass. If you plan on just hopping in and out of an uber I suppose you could wear nicer clothes, but I doubt the girls will really care. They might assume you can pay more. I do walk around at night, but just ignore all panhandlers and sketchy people and so far have been fine.

On the negotiation-as stated before, my goal here is to receive at the very least BBBJ with the ultimate goal of BBFS, CIP, with all the variations in between. A basic level of Spanish is needed for negotiation. First I ask her name, her age, where's she's from. If she looks young I demand to see a cedula (ID). If she does not produce a cedula that means she is under-age and you should walk on. I've been hanging out most on the south end of SF -this is where the Venezuelan spinners congregate, many who are underage, so be careful. A usual offer for a 20 min rato (date) will be 40-50 mil pesos. The hotel room (la pieza) is separate and is usually 8 mil pesos. If you want 40 minutes instead of 20, make sure the girl and hotel know during the negotiation. Once I have the base-price I specify that I need "oral sin condon", at this point she will either refuse or ask for more money-usually double her base rate- so 40 becomes 80,50 becomes 100. If I have an affirmative here I will seal the deal and head to the room. Other services I negotiate while in the room- so if I want a CIM, first I try to see if it can just be had for free, and if not how much more. Usually 20-30 mil extra should do it. The next bit, BBFS can be a little tricker, and often will mean a double of the agreed rate, so 100 mil (50 base+50 BBBJ) becomes 200 mil. Each step up in services acquired is more costly and less likely to be granted by the provider. However, let's remember that 200 mil pesos is about $53 and so to get BBFS plus CIM from a pretty 18 yr Venezuelan spinner, this is really a great deal.

My first day I began with an attractive and slim 19 year old Venezuelan at one of the north end hotels. She agreed to a 50 mil rato plus 50 mil for uncovered BJ. The service was fair to poor- she didn't appear to enjoy blowjobs or cum, but it was still satisfying ejaculating into her 19 yr old mouth. This was about 6 pm and as I was leaving I saw the "night shift' coming on, which seemed to have more talent generally.

After a meal, shower, and few hours later I came back to roam some more. Starting at the clubs, La Troya, Atunes, Paisas, I wasn't feeling the lineups and the club girls start at 70 mil pesos and are much more reluctant to do extras. A friend of mine has related that if you bring club girls out of SF to a nicer hotel or airbnb, extras are much easier to obtain- but I find this one more annoying hoop to jump through.

One of the night-time annoyances of the area to be aware of is all the young men trying to herd you into this or that club where, if successful, they will stick to you like glue until you have a seat and order an overpriced drink of which I'm assuming they get a large cut. It's best to just ignore them and say "luego, luego". After a couple of days I think they recognize me and don't pester me so much.

After walking around a bit more- the south end seems to have the kind of girl I like- young thin spinners- I found a very cute 18 yr old Vennie with cedula who agreed to 100 mil for uncovered BJ. Once in the room, I found her attitude to be great, allowed light deepthroat and some kissing. I asked for BBFS and she agreed for 100 mil more (now 200 mil total). She requested that I not CIP, and so came on her tummy. This was a fantastic session and we got numbers to meet up the next day.

Returning the night after, first I hung out a local bar and watched about 20 drug transactions right in front of me- little white powder packets in one hand, cash in the other. I texted my Vennie from the night before, who said she would be out soon- but instead of waiting I succumbed to temptation- another 18 yr old Vennie at a south end hotel. This girl was legitimately pretty, petite, with perky tits, a beautiful face and blonde braids. She agreed to a 40 k rato plus 40 k for BBBJ. We headed to the room and she delivered- very sexual and very sweet. I requested CIM during the act which she agreed to for an extra 20 mil, so 100 mil total. After sex we talked a bit and I learned she had been in Colombia for 2 years since that age of 16 and working in SF as a prostitute the whole time. She was curious why I asked for her ID, "you don't like young girls? To which I replied it was illegal. She maintained that it was not illegal and that she had no trouble with the police for the previous two years she had been working. Maybe not, maybe so, but the risk is still there for Gringos- especially-to be extorted by either the provider or the police, so again it's best not to break the laws in your home country even if you are abroad. I plan to visit this provider again- she told me that girls do come out on Sundays, so we shall see.

After my session, it was raining heavily, and the girl from the previous night finally showed up and met me in a bar across from Paisas Club. At first she asked for 400 mil to go to my place for a few hours- but I got her down to 300 mil (again included BBBJ, BBFS). I was considering a trio with her friend but the girl didn't show. I was expecting the doorman at my airbnb to check her cedula as this girl looks quite young (mostly because she is a small spinner) but there was no such request and so we just went up to my room. The session was good, but I was a bit tired because I had just fucked a little while ago, and so for much of the 3 hours we just hung out. She told me she had come to Colombia quite recently and had first spent time in Parque Lleras in Medellin, which is why her initial ask is 50 mil not 35 mil and her markup is higher too. She related that much more money can be made in Medellin because the market is skewed by Gringo money, but her mother moved to Bogota and so she followed. Before working as a prostitute she said she begged on the street to survive. She showed me her tiktok, which seems to be her primary creative and social outlet and I don't think she has much knowledge beyond that world. Her goal is to travel to Paris, France- which she associates with the luxury goods she would like to obtain. Sweet girl, probably will repeat but need to get back to 200 mil.

[JohnnyWishBone]

Ohhh forgot about Tatiana. So after I got her no. And chatted for couple of days. Ended up meeting Monday night. The deal was 150 mil for 2 hours only one way taxi. She showed up with her friend. I felt like buy one get one free deal. After checking in with security, which they kind a gave me a look this time, we took shower first and enjoying our company. Now this girls were really into fun. They are taking turns and telling me. Dale. How I should bang one more then other. That was weird. They did not want to leave so late night I kicked them out. Next day they wanted me to go to Monserrat with them. Sweet girls. I did not pay for any SA, tinder or cupid app. My Spanish is survival level.Thanks for the report, an interesting read CoolGregg. It sounds like you had a great time with so many girls. I take it you just picked up the girls where they are standing by or inside the doorways of the buildings?

It sounds good because you can try out many girls for a trial run for a cheap price before choosing the right girls to come over for a longer session.

The more I read and watch videos on YouTube, the more excited I get for my trip in May.

[ApplesApples]

At Parque de los Hippies, along 7th Ave and CL. 60, there are supposed to be informal weed venders. (I got this tip form a Vice News report a while back that I'm unable to locate.) In Bogota they call the weed 'crippa.' When I went to this Hippies Park some years ago, indeed there was a scruffy looking guy hawking 'crippa,' which was not very good, had stems and seeds like 1990s mexican dirt weed we called 'stress' back then. At the park, sales are done low profile, since there is a police presence there. I don't know what you'd find today.They are 100% still there. I don't know if its less visible that before, but it is not at all difficult to find someone there selling.

[JohnnyWishBone]

I'm spending a week exclusively in Santa Fe and will be filing a couple of reports. I'm a mid- 40's, fit white guy with experience mongering in several countries including Colombia. I have visited Santa Fe twice before but each time only really scratched the surface. My goal with this trip is to see how much uncovered action can be negotiated with the street and club girls and to ultimately decide if Santa Fe is a viable option going forward. Please note, I am not a tinder, SA, facebook guy and so my posts will not touch on those strategies. If they work for you, that's fantastic- please continue making them work. My main objection is that on a short stay, too much time is wasted dealing with the screening, set-up, flaking, and other problems that are much easier to deal with on a longer term basis. My guess is that for consistent uncovered service, SA is likely the superior option, but the cost in time and hassle is very high and again- not feasible for a week trip.

Traveling to Colombia at this time is quite easy. Don't forget your vaccination card and that silly Check Mig app (briefly scanned by the immigration officer). This time I flew Avianca and did not check bags or pay for carry-on, cramming all my belongings into a "personal item" that I stowed under my seat. This saves a lot of money- the cheap ticket price that lures you is often doubled by the time you pay for luggage.

I opted to stay at an inexpensive airbnb ($20 a night) situated half-way between Santa Fe and Carrera 7 a short five minute walk to each. Carrera 7 is a great pedestrian walkway that will take you all the way to the Museo de Oro and Plaza Bolivar. There are many places to eat inexpensively, access an ATM, and find drug stores for other needs. This is where you should do your civilian things if you stay in this neighborhood.

In the other direction is Santa Fe. Much has been written here about how "ghetto" or dangerous this neighborhood is and I'm not going to sugar coat it- it is a dump. A warren of about 3 x3 blocks full of dingy motels, potholes, drug dealers, prostitutes, an endless procession of bikers and taxis and roaming homeless young Venezuelan men- its a mongers paradise. I tend to feel that Santa Fe itself is not terribly dangerous but the area due south and south west should be avoided.

Danger can be mitigated by not standing out- I'm a pasty white guy with a bald / shaved head but I fit in quite easily by putting a baseball cap over the white dome, and dressing like a local with jeans and an adidas track jacket. With a mask over my face I'm rarely eyeballed and just assumed to be a local. Aside from wardrobe, just don't get stupid drunk, wear fancy clothes or items, and generally don't be an ass. If you plan on just hopping in and out of an uber I suppose you could wear nicer clothes, but I doubt the girls will really care. They might assume you can pay more. I do walk around at night, but just ignore all panhandlers and sketchy people and so far have been fine.

On the negotiation-as stated before, my goal here is to receive at the very least BBBJ with the ultimate goal of BBFS, CIP, with all the variations in between. A basic level of Spanish is needed for negotiation. First I ask her name, her age, where's she's from. If she looks young I demand to see a cedula (ID). If she does not produce a cedula that means she is under-age and you should walk on. I've been hanging out most on the south end of SF -this is where the Venezuelan spinners congregate, many who are underage, so be careful. A usual offer for a 20 min rato (date) will be 40-50 mil pesos. The hotel room (la pieza) is separate and is usually 8 mil pesos. If you want 40 minutes instead of 20, make sure the girl and hotel know during the negotiation. Once I have the base-price I specify that I need "oral sin condon", at this point she will either refuse or ask for more money-usually double her base rate- so 40 becomes 80,50 becomes 100. If I have an affirmative here I will seal the deal and head to the room. Other services I negotiate while in the room- so if I want a CIM, first I try to see if it can just be had for free, and if not how much more. Usually 20-30 mil extra should do it. The next bit, BBFS can be a little tricker, and often will mean a double of the agreed rate, so 100 mil (50 base+50 BBBJ) becomes 200 mil. Each step up in services acquired is more costly and less likely to be granted by the provider. However, let's remember that 200 mil pesos is about $53 and so to get BBFS plus CIM from a pretty 18 yr Venezuelan spinner, this is really a great deal.

My first day I began with an attractive and slim 19 year old Venezuelan at one of the north end hotels. She agreed to a 50 mil rato plus 50 mil for uncovered BJ. The service was fair to poor- she didn't appear to enjoy blowjobs or cum, but it was still satisfying ejaculating into her 19 yr old mouth. This was about 6 pm and as I was leaving I saw the "night shift' coming on, which seemed to have more talent generally.

After a meal, shower, and few hours later I came back to roam some more. Starting at the clubs, La Troya, Atunes, Paisas, I wasn't feeling the lineups and the club girls start at 70 mil pesos and are much more reluctant to do extras. A friend of mine has related that if you bring club girls out of SF to a nicer hotel or airbnb, extras are much easier to obtain- but I find this one more annoying hoop to jump through.

One of the night-time annoyances of the area to be aware of is all the young men trying to herd you into this or that club where, if successful, they will stick to you like glue until you have a seat and order an overpriced drink of which I'm assuming they get a large cut. It's best to just ignore them and say "luego, luego". After a couple of days I think they recognize me and don't pester me so much.

After walking around a bit more- the south end seems to have the kind of girl I like- young thin spinners- I found a very cute 18 yr old Vennie with cedula who agreed to 100 mil for uncovered BJ. Once in the room, I found her attitude to be great, allowed light deepthroat and some kissing. I asked for BBFS and she agreed for 100 mil more (now 200 mil total). She requested that I not CIP, and so came on her tummy. This was a fantastic session and we got numbers to meet up the next day.

Returning the night after, first I hung out a local bar and watched about 20 drug transactions right in front of me- little white powder packets in one hand, cash in the other. I texted my Vennie from the night before, who said she would be out soon- but instead of waiting I succumbed to temptation- another 18 yr old Vennie at a south end hotel. This girl was legitimately pretty, petite, with perky tits, a beautiful face and blonde braids. She agreed to a 40 k rato plus 40 k for BBBJ. We headed to the room and she delivered- very sexual and very sweet. I requested CIM during the act which she agreed to for an extra 20 mil, so 100 mil total. After sex we talked a bit and I learned she had been in Colombia for 2 years since that age of 16 and working in SF as a prostitute the whole time. She was curious why I asked for her ID, "you don't like young girls? To which I replied it was illegal. She maintained that it was not illegal and that she had no trouble with the police for the previous two years she had been working. Maybe not, maybe so, but the risk is still there for Gringos- especially-to be extorted by either the provider or the police, so again it's best not to break the laws in your home country even if you are abroad. I plan to visit this provider again- she told me that girls do come out on Sundays, so we shall see.

After my session, it was raining heavily, and the girl from the previous night finally showed up and met me in a bar across from Paisas Club. At first she asked for 400 mil to go to my place for a few hours- but I got her down to 300 mil (again included BBBJ, BBFS). I was considering a trio with her friend but the girl didn't show. I was expecting the doorman at my airbnb to check her cedula as this girl looks quite young (mostly because she is a small spinner) but there was no such request and so we just went up to my room. The session was good, but I was a bit tired because I had just fucked a little while ago, and so for much of the 3 hours we just hung out. She told me she had come to Colombia quite recently and had first spent time in Parque Lleras in Medellin, which is why her initial ask is 50 mil not 35 mil and her markup is higher too. She related that much more money can be made in Medellin because the market is skewed by Gringo money, but her mother moved to Bogota and so she followed. Before working as a prostitute she said she begged on the street to survive. She showed me her tiktok, which seems to be her primary creative and social outlet and I don't think she has much knowledge beyond that world. Her goal is to travel to Paris, France- which she associates with the luxury goods she would like to obtain. Sweet girl, probably will repeat but need to get back to 200 mil.A really good and informative read; great to see that BBFS is easily negotiated. Similar to you, I am up for finding as much BBFS as possible esp. With 18/19 yos when I arrive in May. An interesting note around inflated prices in Parque Lleras in Medellíand.

[Igor54]

I'm spending a week exclusively in Santa Fe and will be filing a couple of reports. I'm a mid- 40's, fit white guy with experience mongering in several countries including Colombia. I have visited Santa Fe twice before but each time only really scratched the surface. My goal with this trip is to see how much uncovered action can be negotiated with the street and club girls and to ultimately decide if Santa Fe is a viable option going forward. Please note, I am not a tinder, SA, facebook guy and so my posts will not touch on those strategies. If they work for you, that's fantastic- please continue making them work. My main objection is that on a short stay, too much time is wasted dealing with the screening, set-up, flaking, and other problems that are much easier to deal with on a longer term basis. My guess is that for consistent uncovered service, SA is likely the superior option, but the cost in time and hassle is very high and again- not feasible for a week trip.

Traveling to Colombia at this time is quite easy. Don't forget your vaccination card and that silly Check Mig app (briefly scanned by the immigration officer). This time I flew Avianca and did not check bags or pay for carry-on, cramming all my belongings into a "personal item" that I stowed under my seat. This saves a lot of money- the cheap ticket price that lures you is often doubled by the time you pay for luggage.

I opted to stay at an inexpensive airbnb ($20 a night) situated half-way between Santa Fe and Carrera 7 a short five minute walk to each. Carrera 7 is a great pedestrian walkway that will take you all the way to the Museo de Oro and Plaza Bolivar. There are many places to eat inexpensively, access an ATM, and find drug stores for other needs. This is where you should do your civilian things if you stay in this neighborhood.Good report and thank you for that.

It's not my mind, just for your info, but next time, before you'll go for bare back make a research on Chlamydiosis and other STD. It's easy to get and see my posts it should be a link to STD you can get getting. Try to think like a smart "Freddie Mercury" before pushing your bare dick at any hole. It can save your life.

[SankarShetty]

Good report. Appreciate the insight and tips on negotiating with street girls. I have sometimes enjoyed BBFS from SA even when I had a short (less than a week trip) I do think there is a flake rate with some the girls not showing up but in general the experiences are GFE with BBBJ and BBFS.


I'm spending a week exclusively in Santa Fe and will be filing a couple of reports. I'm a mid- 40's, fit white guy with experience mongering in several countries including Colombia. I have visited Santa Fe twice before but each time only really scratched the surface. My goal with this trip is to see how much uncovered action can be negotiated with the street and club girls and to ultimately decide if Santa Fe is a viable option going forward. Please note, I am not a tinder, SA, facebook guy and so my posts will not touch on those strategies. If they work for you, that's fantastic- please continue making them work. My main objection is that on a short stay, too much time is wasted dealing with the screening, set-up, flaking, and other problems that are much easier to deal with on a longer term basis. My guess is that for consistent uncovered service, SA is likely the superior option, but the cost in time and hassle is very high and again- not feasible for a week trip.

[SankarShetty]

You the man Coolgreg. Hope you did not fuck them mercilessly, they must be walking funny next day. Hehehehe.


Ohhh forgot about Tatiana. So after I got her no. And chatted for couple of days. Ended up meeting Monday night. The deal was 150 mil for 2 hours only one way taxi. She showed up with her friend. I felt like buy one get one free deal. After checking in with security, which they kind a gave me a look this time, we took shower first and enjoying our company. Now this girls were really into fun. They are taking turns and telling me. Dale. How I should bang one more then other. That was weird. They did not want to leave so late night I kicked them out. Next day they wanted me to go to Monserrat with them. Sweet girls. I did not pay for any SA, tinder or cupid app. My Spanish is survival level.

[DallasDave]

I'm noticing a lot of Airbnb's gravitating towards stricter guest policies, unfortunately.

Has anyone ever stayed in the Paseo Del Lago building by Andino Mall?

Anybody have an Airbnb recommendation around CC Andino / Retiro, or anywhere else around Zona T that is chica friendly?

[GoldMembr]

On the ground in Bogota. Third day here, I'm in my 50's so been acclimating to the altitude. Spending serious time on SA. Some real beauties on there, as in "dimes", have gotten interested responses from everyone I contacted. We'll see if I can score or not! By the way, on SA, if you wait a week or two after signing up before getting the premium membership they send you a coupon link for 20% off so its $88 instead of $110 (for Americans). If anyone needs a wingman in Santa Fe or wants to trade war stories over dinner, PM me. I've been a "traveling man" for over 20 years so I've plenty of war stories.

Goldmembr.

[TiaVoyage25]

Decided to go with Bogota once again instead of Medellin. I'll be on ground the evening of the 12th through the 20th. I have an Airbnb near SF but the timing didn't work for the ideal place I wanted for the whole time so I will also have a hotel close by.

I'm very experienced with Bogota and will be spending most of my time in SF. If you're interested in meeting up for a drink or to explore, send me a PM. For full disclosure, I'm not a big fan of walking through the streets much (especially late at night) so will likely enjoy my time in the clubs there despite the fact that I have a general distaste for clubs.

Similar to what I did in Rio last summer, I intend to write an "All Inclusive Newbie's Guide to Santa Fe" if my experiences allow for such a thing.

Cheers, Tia.

[Fudi Maar]

I'm noticing a lot of Airbnb's gravitating towards stricter guest policies, unfortunately.

Has anyone ever stayed in the Paseo Del Lago building by Andino Mall?

Anybody have an Airbnb recommendation around CC Andino / Retiro, or anywhere else around Zona T that is chica friendly?Don't know about ABNB, but I stayed at the Hotel NH Collection Bogotá Andino Royal and absolutely no problems at all with bringing girls at all hours of the day and night.

It's a very nice hotel with a great rooftop terraza where I entertained a couple of civvies before banging them (for free) in the room.

At TiaVoyage25 and at GoldMembr. I would love to meet up and share experiences etc, but I cannot DM anyone, because I cannot seem to figure out how to pay the $25 subs. My credit cards are all getting rejected by Coinbase. Does anyone know how I can get around this? My cards are from UK based banks, and phoning the banks and explaining this whilst I'm in Bogota is not so straightforward.

I suspect my cards are not "3 D secure". And in addition, many credit cards do not permit crypto transactions.

Anyway, on a brighter note, I went to a casa on Calle 57 today, Chapinero, and banged 4 chicas, each "un rato" for a 35 K, as a trial run. I don't even do 30 minutes anymore if it's my first time with the girl. I just want to check her attitude, compatibility and general demeaner in the room. Out of the four, I will repeat with two of them for a longer time on my next visit.

One was a Venezualana with a big ass. Perfect. Afterwards, the asked if I wanted her phone number, and if I lived close by. I think she wants to do a private deal, which I would be more than happy with.

[MadMax9336]

Arrived early morning on Thursday. Immigration and custom was super easy. 20 min Total. Took a Uber Straight to Hotel. Nice area quiet on corre 6 & Calle 26. Kind a like new hotel. They did good job remodeling. Woke up late had nice breakfast at hotel. Went to cambio got 3850 for 1 usd. Then straight to Santa Fe. Strolled around. Picked up maria for 50 mil for one leche. She was near Las Vegas residencias. Not a good place. Had good session. No rush from chica but hotel knocks at door within 15 min. Even though you pay for 30 min. I recommend stay away from this place. Wander around just to get the lay of ground for night visit. Took a second lap picked up 1 vennie, she was a bit drama in room. That was a bit mood turn off for me. She tried to gave me a BJ. But could not finish in time. So I did not extend the session after cleaning myself in cold water left place in search of lunch. Ended up picking El virrey. Nice joint. After lunch went to local shop to recharge my sim. I paid 20 mil peso for data only. I don't know what she did in the computer. It did not work. Nice lady though. She is trying to get help from other staff in store to fix problems. No body knows. After half an hour waiting I did not want to waste much time I went to another local shop to recharge. I paid again 20 or 30 mil peso. She couldn't load the data. She tried calling customer service. I was like que pena con mi. She suggested that I should go to claro service center on corr 8 #45. Mean time my scheduled date arrived and was waiting for me downstairs at hotel. She was all panicking as can not contact me. Finally claro figured out and off I go. When I checked my phone had 20 miss calls and WA txt from her. Back to hotel and front desk checked her in..Good report Greg.

It was nice meeting you though it was short and uneventful night.

As we were already finished our mongering tasks in Medellin and only one night left in Bogota, could not really sped more time as it was already got late due to know the circumstance you know already.

The next day we went to Monserrate before heading to airport and did not get a chance to say good bye to you.

Hope to return next time and explore more in Bogota and Santa Fe for sure.

[ZedLeppelin10]

Hey guys,

First time poster here. I've got a trip booked to Bogota from all of April to all of May. I've been to Medellin before but that was to go see one girl and be with her so I didn't see anyone else in that time. This time, I'm going to go meet several girls I've been talking to with the expectations of sex (Threesomes and more), some with the expectations of being my guide and showing me around (which I hope ends with sex. Building rapport now), and I'm also interested in getting prepagos / escorts. I'll be doing sight seeing and meeting people too since I won't spend two months of just straight fucking, LOL.

I've got an Airbnb in Chapinero Central on a really high floor that allows guests. Apparently it's near everything so good spot. I specifically read one of the reviews mentioned that guests were not a problem at all so I hit the host up and he was a relatively young dude (more open to allowing visitors for guests as opposed to older hosts or women hosts. At least that's my thought process. So many Airbnb's are antiguest and it's really to ward off anyone from having sex with normal girls and escorts). I emphasized that first and foremost, I needed guests / visitors to my apartment to be okay and he said no problem at all, just take care of the apartment. So I think I'm in the clear to bring back girls, escorts or not, to my place.

Anyways, I'm in my 20's, Hispanic and look it, speak Spanish pretty well which allows me to talk to these girls very easily, college graduate, and am decently attractive. Slightly overweight but you wouldn't know it from just seeing me. I'm in the process of losing weight for this trip anyways. I'm down to meetup with any of you, talk, shoot the shit, and am overall, looking for someone to show me how to navigate prepagos and all that good stuff and have a good time. We can go out and hang out and do mongering together or whatever. Just looking to make these two months extremely memorable with some Colombian and Venezuelan beauties. I don't give a fuck about your age or anything, just be cool and normal and we'll get along just fine.

[PeterPan77]

Hey guys,

First time poster here. I've got a trip booked to Bogota from all of April to all of May. I've been to Medellin before but that was to go see one girl and be with her so I didn't see anyone else in that time. This time, I'm going to go meet several girls I've been talking to with the expectations of sex (Threesomes and more), some with the expectations of being my guide and showing me around (which I hope ends with sex. Building rapport now), and I'm also interested in getting prepagos / escorts. I'll be doing sight seeing and meeting people too since I won't spend two months of just straight fucking, LOL.

I've got an Airbnb in Chapinero Central on a really high floor that allows guests. Apparently it's near everything so good spot. I specifically read one of the reviews mentioned that guests were not a problem at all so I hit the host up and he was a relatively young dude (more open to allowing visitors for guests as opposed to older hosts or women hosts. At least that's my thought process. So many Airbnb's are antiguest and it's really to ward off anyone from having sex with normal girls and escorts). I emphasized that first and foremost, I needed guests / visitors to my apartment to be okay and he said no problem at all, just take care of the apartment. So I think I'm in the clear to bring back girls, escorts or not, to my place..Hi Zed.

I will there around same time but I will also go to other cities in Colombia with Bogota as my base, I have been there twice and love the city. Lets meet up. We cal also plan for Amazonia trip.

Pan.

[KindAn]

Hey buddy,

I'm in Colombia around then too, most likely Bogota then Medellin. Give me a shout. I've got a subscription so my PMs should be open.


Hey guys,

First time poster here. I've got a trip booked to Bogota from all of April to all of May. I've been to Medellin before but that was to go see one girl and be with her so I didn't see anyone else in that time. This time, I'm going to go meet several girls I've been talking to with the expectations of sex (Threesomes and more), some with the expectations of being my guide and showing me around (which I hope ends with sex. Building rapport now), and I'm also interested in getting prepagos / escorts. I'll be doing sight seeing and meeting people too since I won't spend two months of just straight fucking, LOL.

I've got an Airbnb in Chapinero Central on a really high floor that allows guests. Apparently it's near everything so good spot. I specifically read one of the reviews mentioned that guests were not a problem at all so I hit the host up and he was a relatively young dude (more open to allowing visitors for guests as opposed to older hosts or women hosts. At least that's my thought process. So many Airbnb's are antiguest and it's really to ward off anyone from having sex with normal girls and escorts). I emphasized that first and foremost, I needed guests / visitors to my apartment to be okay and he said no problem at all, just take care of the apartment. So I think I'm in the clear to bring back girls, escorts or not, to my place..

[Igor54]

Good report Greg.

It was nice meeting you though it was short and uneventful night.

As we were already finished our mongering tasks in Medellin and only one night left in Bogota, could not really sped more time as it was already got late due to know the circumstance you know already.

The next day we went to Monserrate before heading to airport and did not get a chance to say good bye to you.

Hope to return next time and explore more in Bogota and Santa Fe for sure."I recommend stay away from this place." 15 min knock is a part of the game. If a girl tells a client get the fuck off. The locals (not the gringo) start to fight and demand the paid time. After the knock, the next step is, the girl say you that it is the end of your fun because the reception is said that. The client has nothing to do just to except / to buy that. And when he gets out there is no one on the reception to get / address his objections "I paid for 30 min" . That is why. Take it easy. You are not the first and not the last.

[JackTaggart]

Hello,

I am finally back in Bogota. I am real close the Mezzanines for a few days and I had not been before and took a shot. I saw some recent reviews about how the girls there have not been very good since covid. But boy did I luck out. I went around 10:30 am on a Wednesday (today). Walked up the spiral staircase and walked down the hallway to the end. None of the doors were opening and I tried the last two doors and they were locked, so I started to leave and then I noticed one that was partially open. I think #14. It had two rooms in there if that helps for reference, but there was only the one girl and she locked the main door before things got started.

I opened it up and there was an early 20's spinner that was one of the hottest girls I have ever seen. Obviously that is an opinion, but spinner, small boobs, nice face, and "bubbily" is my critera. She was very clean and smelled great. The look that would fit right in if you were out for drinks. Sadly I speak almost no Spanish. Google translate mostly worked but it was a bit awkward. Ended up going with 120 k for an hour with full service, which is also what was posted on the sign. There was no massage and she got right down to business. Covered everything, but she was so hot it did not matter. We had fun for 30 minutes and then chatted with google translate for about 30 more minutes. No rush. Got her Whatsapp and will try getting her to do outcall to be in a more relaxed setting.

Of course all the other reports are accurate with the smaller rooms and smaller tables, but I didn't think it was that bad. I'm 6 feet tall, 195# if that matters for frame of reference. It was fun and I will probably go again, but I wouldn't look at it for a regular thing due to the setup.

I know names don't really help much, but Gabriela was her name.

[JohnnyWishBone]

There are grouped together around Av. Carrera 15 #104-03, Mezzanine 5 / 6. GPS 4. 689096, -74.047058.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1Y7d556oDwhh_X83ZCec7ItKPaXQ&ll=4.70342240054839%2C-74.04559714999999&z=13Outstanding link and effort to pin and save all the locations with information.

[JackTaggart]

Hello,

I am finally back in Bogota. I am real close the Mezzanines for a few days and I had not been before and took a shot. I saw some recent reviews about how the girls there have not been very good since covid. But boy did I luck out. I went around 10:30 am on a Wednesday (today). Walked up the spiral staircase and walked down the hallway to the end. None of the doors were opening and I tried the last two doors and they were locked, so I started to leave and then I noticed one that was partially open. I think #14. It had two rooms in there if that helps for reference, but there was only the one girl and she locked the main door before things got started.

I opened it up and there was an early 20's spinner that was one of the hottest girls I have ever seen. Obviously that is an opinion, but spinner, small boobs, nice face, and "bubbily" is my critera. She was very clean and smelled great. The look that would fit right in if you were out for drinks. Sadly I speak almost no Spanish. Google translate mostly worked but it was a bit awkward. Ended up going with 120 k for an hour with full service, which is also what was posted on the sign. There was no massage and she got right down to business. Covered everything, but she was so hot it did not matter. We had fun for 30 minutes and then chatted with google translate for about 30 more minutes. No rush. Got her Whatsapp and will try getting her to do outcall to be in a more relaxed setting.

Of course all the other reports are accurate with the smaller rooms and smaller tables, but I didn't think it was that bad. I'm 6 feet tall, 195# if that matters for frame of reference. It was fun and I will probably go again, but I wouldn't look at it for a regular thing due to the setup.

I know names don't really help much, but Gabriela was her name.So I am not sure if it is poor form to quote your own report. But I try to write for guys newer at this and provide a slightly different voice. I promise not to post a single report for every encounter I have, but I thought this was worth updating on.

I went back around 7:10 pm today and took a right when I went up the stairs instead of going straight. There was only one door that was lighted up and it was the last one. I walked in and there was another beautiful woman. Petite, short, braces, and quite the ass. Mid, maybe late 20's. She brought me into one of the rooms right away and quickly found out my lack of Spanish. She was worried about it but then was cool about it. Google translate to the rescue! She was asking if I wanted a lineup and I just said I wanted her and she was very happy. This room was quite a bit smaller than the one I was in earlier in the day. Now I understand the complaints about the small rooms. I just lucked out for my first time.

I do have to say at this point that while I am still extremely happy with my first visit, I was suffering from PTUSES (Post Tramitic United States Escort Syndrom) and I thought it was better than it actually was. The 2nd session I had was so amazing compared to my first. She was super cool and just wanted to make me happy. Again we did about 30 minutes of sexual fun, but with the small table and room it was a bit tough to perform. Covered BJ and FS but again, not a problem because she was so hot. Lots of ball licking without asking. She was very receptive to GFE and we ended up laying together while DFK and her jerking me off without the condom. We both sat up and cleaned up and I was expecting it to be over but she then motioned for the massage. She really did a good job and there was a knock about 45 minutes in, but she went out and sorted it out and gave me another 15-20 minutes without me even asking. Looking back, I was basically saying Si to everything and I think I initially agreed to 45 minutes but then agreed to an hour while she was on top of me.

After we were done she was getting dressed and she was having trouble getting her jeans up because her ass was so great. I happily helped. I love Bogota. After reading the forum for years I understand that A) Everyone has different preferences and B) Some people prefer just banging vs GFE. I prefer the GFE and I got it at Mezzanine.

So yeah. Not trying to dispute other people's experiences with lack of good talent there, but I had a great experiences early and then at the end of the night without even shopping around. I can't wait for the fun I will find over the next couple of weeks.

Now I just need to figure out how to get the spell check to go back to English vs Spanish. Almost every single word I type is underlined in red. Sorry for any spelling erors!

[Roshambo]

Newbie here. First night out in Colombia. I did some research on here, reached out to Woodman and we were able to coordinate a tour tonight.

Coming from the states, Santa Fe area feels pretty rough at night, especially with all the horror stories of mugging and pickpocketing. Glad I did the tour. Woodman is a chill guy and he looks out for you.

We took a walk around the streets. A couple of gems out there, but I enjoyed the clubs much more. Less hectic, you can sit, chill, drink and admire the view almost like a Miami strip club.

Spotted this 7. 5-8/10 spinner named Dinelli? At the very first club Troya and knew I had to come back after the tour. Troya and Fiebre seems to have the best girls in the area.

I saw some warning signs before, but I was thinking with the wrong head. While we were drinking and talking, I noticed she was a very quiet girl by nature and didn't smile much.

Did an hour session. Was quoted 180 mil but talked down 150 mil. Felt like I still got overcharged but she was the hottest girl in the room and she knew it.

I would not repeat again. She gave her best effort but was very mechanical. I had experiences before and expected the Latina energy and passion.

There was none. Felt very cold.

Learn from my mistakes, my brothers. Don't make a beeline for the prettiest face or the sexiest body. Slow down for a moment and take into account her flirtiness and attitude.

[Mtljay]

Keep the reports coming. How do you find about these Mezzanines? I do not want to go and knock on the wrong door.


So I am not sure if it is poor form to quote your own report. But I try to write for guys newer at this and provide a slightly different voice. I promise not to post a single report for every encounter I have, but I thought this was worth updating on.

I went back around 7:10 pm today and took a right when I went up the stairs instead of going straight. There was only one door that was lighted up and it was the last one. I walked in and there was another beautiful woman. Petite, short, braces, and quite the ass. Mid, maybe late 20's. She brought me into one of the rooms right away and quickly found out my lack of Spanish. She was worried about it but then was cool about it. Google translate to the rescue! She was asking if I wanted a lineup and I just said I wanted her and she was very happy. This room was quite a bit smaller than the one I was in earlier in the day. Now I understand the complaints about the small rooms. I just lucked out for my first time.

I do have to say at this point that while I am still extremely happy with my first visit, I was suffering from PTUSES (Post Tramitic United States Escort Syndrom) and I thought it was better than it actually was. The 2nd session I had was so amazing compared to my first. She was super cool and just wanted to make me happy. Again we did about 30 minutes of sexual fun, but with the small table and room it was a bit tough to perform. Covered BJ and FS but again, not a problem because she was so hot. Lots of ball licking without asking. She was very receptive to GFE and we ended up laying together while DFK and her jerking me off without the condom. We both sat up and cleaned up and I was expecting it to be over but she then motioned for the massage. She really did a good job and there was a knock about 45 minutes in, but she went out and sorted it out and gave me another 15-20 minutes without me even asking. Looking back, I was basically saying Si to everything and I think I initially agreed to 45 minutes but then agreed to an hour while she was on top of me.

After we were done she was getting dressed and she was having trouble getting her jeans up because her ass was so great. I happily helped. I love Bogota. After reading the forum for years I understand that A) Everyone has different preferences and B) Some people prefer just banging vs GFE. I prefer the GFE and I got it at Mezzanine.

So yeah. Not trying to dispute other people's experiences with lack of good talent there, but I had a great experiences early and then at the end of the night without even shopping around. I can't wait for the fun I will find over the next couple of weeks.

Now I just need to figure out how to get the spell check to go back to English vs Spanish. Almost every single word I type is underlined in red. Sorry for any spelling erors!

[TiaVoyage25]

I would not repeat again. She gave her best effort but was very mechanical. I had experiences before and expected the Latina energy and passion.

There was none. Felt very cold.

Learn from my mistakes, my brothers. Don't make a beeline for the prettiest face or the sexiest body. Slow down for a moment and take into account her flirtiness and attitude.Smart move taking woodman's tour to start the trip and get a lay of the land.

That being said, your mistake was getting an hour session with an SF girl inside an SF club without first getting the standard 15-20 minute test ride. As a general rule of thumb, don't expect anything close to GFE. If you want that you either have to discuss it beforehand or go to a venue where that is more common (like casas in Chapinero).

A habit that has typically worked for me in the past is to become friendly with a specific waiter in each club. I tip them well (they make pennies on the peso) and occasionally will get them a beer. If I'm getting good vibes from them I'll ask their opinion about specific girls who work there. Time and time again it has paid off.

[RakSopheni]

This is the concluding chapter in my two part post detailing my week in Santa Fe.

To restate, the main goal here was to determine the viability of Santa Fe for uncovered options specifically and as a location worth considering generally.

During week (s) long sex benders many things become a blur but I will try to retrieve some more relevant details from the fog of war. First I should state I've been somewhat sidetracked in my investigations (as often occurs) by the 18 yr old spinner Vennie who I've been seeing daily in addition to my other field work. It turns out she lives with her family (mother and younger brothers) literally a block away from me and so the convenience and established standard of service has been hard to refuse. At this point we've established a 1. 5 hour session with BBFS and CIM (finally) for 150 mil pesos. I get the feeling the mother sends her over when they need grocery money.

An unfortunate rato in one of the south end hotels ended after five minutes once I determined the girl had a terrible attitude- something I should've sensed on the street but was too eager to get my wad out. The deal was for 40 mil + 40 mil uncovered BJ. I offered her a kill fee of 40 which she refused saying it was my fault, not hers, as she was willing to continue, threatening to involve the police if she was not paid in full. It's hard to say exactly what's fair in a situation like this but I ended up giving her 70 mil and got out of there.

Bad experiences like this are often useful because they temper your decision making in the heat of the moment. Santa Fe may be full of a variety of tempting ladies, but you should keep in mind that not all of them are going to be positive experiences no matter how they look, and sometimes the best thing to do is refrain from pulling the trigger. I feel like if nothing else, it's fun to just circle the block a few times and soak it all in. Be very aware of the vibes the girl is giving off- but ultimately it's only in the room where you will really know what she will be like. As another poster has stated, start small with 15-20 minute transactions in order to mitigate this risk. Sometimes the most enthusiastic girl is a dud who just wanted to get paid, and the quiet shy ones are total freaks- there's really no way to know until you try.

A consensus seems to be building here that the best two clubs are Troya and Fiebre- these are also the two cubs most often full inside, and without annoying touts trying to herd you in- surely there is a correlation. Of the remaining, Atunes and Paisa are sometimes passable, Venus and California are pathetic. I'm sure there are a couple I'm forgetting. One of the primary differences I've noticed is that where you can find vernal spinners and flaca Vennies quite easily on the streets, the club girls are generally much thicker with fake body parts. If you like this sort of thing, that should be a draw- personally this is not my jam. Another distinction is uncovered service and pricing. Club girls seem less likely to agree to anything uncovered, and seem to have a higher standard rato of 60 mil or 70 mil to start. To summarize, if you like big fake tits and don't mind covered sex- you will love the clubs- the quality is easily what you would find at Gustos in Medellin at a mere fraction of the price and none of the terrible attitude.

Given this, my club experiences were not fantastic and not terribly memorable. One girl at Troya offered me a 40 mil rato plus 40 mil for uncovered service and actually gave a quite enthusiastic performance but I realized in the room that she was just too thick for me to get excited. I really admire you guys that can get rock hard every time the wind blows- as I get older I get pickier and more fussy and everything needs to be perfectly aligned. She had fantastic tits, however, and it was great sucking on those and making out with her.

Another stacked Paisa beauty at Fiebre (best looking girls are at this club IMO), offered a 60 mil rato plus 60 mil uncovered BJ, COF. This experience was much better- this girl's face was beautiful, and it was a joy dumping a load on her cheek- but still there was something lacking, no real connection and a mechanical feel.

So what are my thoughts after a week in SF? I think there are a few categories to consider.

Cost:

This has hands down been the cheapest sex vacation I've ever had, getting CIM for approx $25, and BBFS for $50 is hard to do outside of Asia. If you're looking for an inexpensive location- I think it's hard to beat SF in the Western Hemisphere. Centro in Medellin might be comparable, but I think SF has it bested by a narrow margin.

Service:

Unlike previous trips, I successfully cracked the "uncovered" service code and was able to find what I needed. Mostly this just involved more extensive canvasing of the area, which after you lose the timidity and initial fear becomes easier. That being said- these short impersonal ratos are not always the best time. The 15-20 minute window feels so rushed, and it's hard to get excited about being guy number 5 out of 10 for the night. Once the initial thrill of the first few days, it becomes a bit dreary. If you are regular dude, and not a priapic pornstar with a 4 girl a day pro forma appetite, it can be hard to stay excited by this scene. Mongers familiar with Brazilian levels of service will ultimately be disappointed. Club girls are a notch higher than street girls in terms of service, but if you are looking for GFE, good luck. Not happening in SF. I will however repeat- SF clubs are amazing if you like cheap, quick covered sex with sometimes pretty girls with big fake tits, but really not great for mongers with other tastes or needs.

Ambiance:

The place is a shit-hole. After a week of slinking around on the potholed, chaotic and filthy streets, I have little desire to return knowing that beautiful locations like Copacabana exist. Add to that Bogota is cold and wet and there isn't really much else to do- the overall ambience is lacking. As previously mentioned, one of the main hazards of the area are the unemployed and shiftless Venezuelan boys and young men who mill around SF making trouble. Staying in an Airbnb close by was convenient in a sense, but I needed to walk a bit to Downtown or Carrera 7 before anything resembled civilization.

Summary:

Santa Fe is a one of a kind experience that is probably best in small doses of 3 days. Land on a Thursday, and exit on a Sunday and you should be fine. Longer stay mongers could create a balanced sex diet in Bogota by rotating between Santa Fe, Chapinero casas, upscale Chico area clubs, SA and Tinder. Since I'm not a huge fan of any of the latter options, I'm coming to the conclusion that I am not a huge fan of Bogota generally. The best luck here seems to be had by mongers willing to do the hard work of establishing SA connections- but even that seems hit and miss from what I can gather. Basic Spanish is a must.

I'm not sure I will return anytime soon- but hopefully these two trip reports have been somewhat illuminating to those of you sitting on the fence. It's always fun doing this kind of research, looking forward to more field work this summer in SEA.

[JohnnyWishBone]

This is the concluding chapter in my two part post detailing my week in Santa Fe.

Summary:

Santa Fe is a one of a kind experience that is probably best in small doses of 3 days. Land on a Thursday, and exit on a Sunday and you should be fine. Longer stay mongers could create a balanced sex diet in Bogota by rotating between Santa Fe, Chapinero casas, upscale Chico area clubs, SA and Tinder. Since I'm not a huge fan of any of the latter options, I'm coming to the conclusion that I am not a huge fan of Bogota generally. The best luck here seems to be had by mongers willing to do the hard work of establishing SA connections- but even that seems hit and miss from what I can gather. Basic Spanish is a must.

I'm not sure I will return anytime soon- but hopefully these two trip reports have been somewhat illuminating to those of you sitting on the fence. It's always fun doing this kind of research, looking forward to more field work this summer in SEA.Your reviews were a good read; balanced and informative. Bogotá itself it actually a really cool city when venturing out for the night with the civvies. I'd say give it another go with a different target to what you set out for this time. But you can't go wrong with with 1. 5 hours with an 18 year old BBFS and CIM. Just great value and I cannot wait to sample for myself in May.

Thanks for the reports RakSopheni.

[TiaVoyage25]

This is the concluding chapter in my two part post detailing my week in Santa Fe.

Summary:

Santa Fe is a one of a kind experience that is probably best in small doses of 3 days. Land on a Thursday, and exit on a Sunday and you should be fine. Longer stay mongers could create a balanced sex diet in Bogota by rotating between Santa Fe, Chapinero casas, upscale Chico area clubs, SA and Tinder. Since I'm not a huge fan of any of the latter options, I'm coming to the conclusion that I am not a huge fan of Bogota generally. The best luck here seems to be had by mongers willing to do the hard work of establishing SA connections- but even that seems hit and miss from what I can gather. Basic Spanish is a must.

I'm not sure I will return anytime soon- but hopefully these two trip reports have been somewhat illuminating to those of you sitting on the fence. It's always fun doing this kind of research, looking forward to more field work this summer in SEA.Phenomenal summary. I agree with you on pretty much all fronts, especially the Brazil parts. I have a tough time comparing the two because there's a lot of overlap in terms of quality, price, etc. It just depends on what kind of scene you're going for I guess. I wrote a "All Inclusive Newbie's Guide to Rio" last summer and one of my big takeaways is that it is hard to beat the beaches of Ipanema combined with the termas. And nothing in this world compares to Scandallo in Sao Paulo.

Your point about for stays of a week or more rings true to me. I like to spend most of my time in SF because of the sheer volume of options, but it starts to eat away at you after a few days. Mixing things up with Chapinero casas, Mezzanine, etc. All make for a more diverse experience, but also requires more work, time in a taxi, etc. And like another member said, there are tons of fun things to do in the city as well outside of the hobby, if it suits your interests.

In all, I'm glad you had a great experience and were willing to share with the rest of us. I'll be on ground later this weekend and since it has been a little over a year for me, I'm curious to see how things have changed!

[ZedLeppelin10]

Hi Zed.

I will there around same time but I will also go to other cities in Colombia with Bogota as my base, I have been there twice and love the city. Lets meet up. We cal also plan for Amazonia trip..Hey Pan, tried to PM you. Down to meet up though.

[Roshambo]

Smart move taking woodman's tour to start the trip and get a lay of the land.

That being said, your mistake was getting an hour session with an SF girl inside an SF club without first getting the standard 15-20 minute test ride. As a general rule of thumb, don't expect anything close to GFE. If you want that you either have to discuss it beforehand or go to a venue where that is more common (like casas in Chapinero).

A habit that has typically worked for me in the past is to become friendly with a specific waiter in each club. I tip them well (they make pennies on the peso) and occasionally will get them a beer. If I'm getting good vibes from them I'll ask their opinion about specific girls who work there. Time and time again it has paid off.Thanks for the good advice!

I went out partying with some Colombian hombres last night. Non-working girls here are super friendly and really know how to grind on you while dancing.

Connected with this girl but she was playing super hard to get. Would leave pretending to be angry and then come back. Repeat over and over again.

Got tired of games around midnight and left. My friends and I went to a casa after. I was too drunk to remember the location but will ask later.

At first I was very underwhelmed. It was a tiny strip club with 4-5 girls there. The girls were all 3-4/10. The one dancing on stage was 4-5/10 and smelled really bad. She was super aggressive and I had to tell her to get off of me.

My friends told me to relax and wait. More girls will come later. We got a bottle of rum which was around $70 and chilled.

Boy were they right. An hour later 3 8-8.5/10 girls came in. They first started dancing with the regulars and owners but eventually made their way to us.

Bought the drink for the hottest one there and asked for price. She quoted me 300 k for an hour.

At this point I was exhausted and also smarter from my previous experience. I tried using my limited Spanish to get her to come home with me.

She didn't want to leave, I gave her my number and told her if she wanted to meet outside I'll take care of her.

Some interesting topics came up throughout the night. My Colombian friends enjoy cases but they never venture down to Santa Fe.

They agree that there are some hot girls there, but they are scared as fuck to go down. 1 they don't like the lack of GFE and 2 they say guys wait to jump you while you wait for uber.

Summary:

Sometime the later the better at some casa locations.

Even Colombian guys are wary of SF.

I'm not saying don't go down there, but you need a guide, company or a lot of street smarts.

[TiaVoyage25]

Summary:

Sometime the later the better at some casa locations.

Even Colombian guys are wary of SF.

I'm not saying don't go down there, but you need a guide, company or a lot of street smarts.Glad to hear you had a mostly good time. The first time I came to Colombia I actually knew nothing about the mongering scene. I came with a friend to meet up with a Colombian friend we knew from back home but had moved back to Colombia. He took us out all over Bogota and we had the time of our lives. I even had a Colombian girlfriend for a while. The locals know of more discreet and lesser known casas all over the city. They're really big into the online scene as well.

As for SF, I can second that even normal Colombian guys tread carefully. The first time I mentioned it to my Colombian friend his eyes lit up and portrayed a clear sense of extreme apprehension. He warned of its dangers, not being there late at night alone, etc. The place is dangerous and there are only so many things one can do to mitigate risk. Because of my background, the way I look, and my youth, I feel relatively comfortable moving around there. But it should be noted that only makes me LESS of a target. I, and everyone else there, is still a target of opportunity. By employing some common sense principles like staying where there's a lot of people, not pulling out huge wads of cash, keeping your phone in your pocket (if you bring it at all), dressing like a Colombian to the best of your ability, leaving the jewelry at home, walking like you belong, making sure the waiter opens your beer in front of you, and having some situational awareness will go a way in avoiding trouble. And for the love of all that is holy, if you're going to go to SF, stick to the main areas where the most people are located. Woodman does a good job explaining it on his tour and there are areas you most certainly would want to avoid.

[TuneFor]

Hi guys,

Will be heading soon to Bogota.

Any suggestions where to book accomodation.

Primary goal is having nice appartment, chill time on balcony with nice view.

Last time I had my lesson about how greedy Colombianas are so this time focus is on good appartment, nice food and cheap weed)).

If someone will be around from 23rd for 10 days let me know so we can go grab a beer or two.

Not sure how many days will stay in Bogota, but at least 3 for sure.

Then Medellin and Cartagena.

[DiegoSan4]

I'm going to be in Bogota just one day next Friday and looking to hit some of the chapinero daytime casas in the afternoon.

I see that the Tantra Spa may be good and possibly Rosquillas on Calle 64. I see lots of casas on the map but not sure how.

Current the information is. I. E. Which ones are open and what are the good ones.

Can anyone recommend any other chapinero casas which are known to be good. I. e. Known to be open, the best possible quality even if not necessarily at low prices.

And negotiable extras. Thanks in advance and I'll be sure to report my findings afterwards.

[Elvis 2008]

Santa Fe is a one of a kind experience that is probably best in small doses of 3 days. Land on a Thursday, and exit on a Sunday and you should be fine. Longer stay mongers could create a balanced sex diet in Bogota by rotating between Santa Fe, Chapinero casas, upscale Chico area clubs, SA and Tinder. Since I'm not a huge fan of any of the latter options, I'm coming to the conclusion that I am not a huge fan of Bogota generally. The best luck here seems to be had by mongers willing to do the hard work of establishing SA connections- but even that seems hit and miss from what I can gather. Basic Spanish is a must.
This part I agree with you 1000%. Brazil has a better P4 P market. Colombia is just cheaper and closer.

I also agree with you weather wise. I prefer high 80's, clear, and frequently sunny. To me, Bogota has a Northern California / Seattle weather vibe to it, but some people actually like that.

When I first went to Colombia, I did the P4 P thing and was underwhelmed both by the sexual encounters and beauty of the women. Routard said it best, "It's cultural of course, as Colombians are genuinely nice people and girls are full of passion and tenderness. " Until you dive in and get to know the women, and I used SA to do this, that is something you will not see in the P4 P world. And of the three women I went deep with, sexually, they were all the same: they literally worshipped my cock in a way other women never have.

I get that not all guys have the time to invest in that or the desire for a relationship but IMO that is what makes Colombia and Colombian women special. From a pure P4 P perspective, Bogota has cheap and plentiful women but iffy quality. I had better sexual encounters in Brazil (way better), Argentina, Paraguay, and even Peru (despite the lack of beauties there). Despite all the reports here, for P4 P, Colombia would be in my second tier: I would throw it in with Venezuela, Bolivia, Uruguay, and Ecuador. I think even Mexico has better P4 P options than Colombia.

[Woodman09]

I'm going to be in Bogota just one day next Friday and looking to hit some of the chapinero daytime casas in the afternoon.

I see that the Tantra Spa may be good and possibly Rosquillas on Calle 64. I see lots of casas on the map but not sure how.

Current the information is. I. E. Which ones are open and what are the good ones.

Can anyone recommend any other chapinero casas which are known to be good. I. e. Known to be open, the best possible quality even if not necessarily at low prices.

And negotiable extras. Thanks in advance and I'll be sure to report my findings afterwards.I have not been to those for years since I moved out of Chapinero and this was Pre Venezolana-.

When I was living there there were casas near Transmileno Stations from Marley to Calle 76.

I literally lived Less than 5 minutes from one and would often stop in for some Quick Sexy Fun, LOL.

You should go to La Mezzanine-- I used to go but it has been years.

But there are a Lotta recent positive posts get there at 12:30-3. Usually some Hot Fresh Girls.

Or Go to Atunes in Santa Fe-- the only Daytime club brothel -- Nice big club Carrera 16 a and Calle 23.

[Aureliano16]

Summary:

Sometime the later the better at some casa locations.

Even Colombian guys are wary of SF.

I'm not saying don't go down there, but you need a guide, company or a lot of street smarts.Wow, your Colombian friends must be definitely rich or silver spooned, which actually makes sense if they speak good English.

Normal Colombian guys, as in the 95% of the population, are definitely not scared of SF! This neighborhood is pretty safe by Colombian standards. It's always packed with policemen in service and not in service as well. I've never ever witnessed a robbery or something sketchy on the streets nor inside the places.

When I was young (university student) I always went there by transmilenio so even public transportation is safe. In 2022 I went there 3 times with my own car, and parked without issues. I drive an automatic and not so old car, worth maybe USD 20 k and wasn't scared at all to park it inside SF.

My only recommendation is always stay in the crowded areas, that would be KR 15,16 and 16 A between Calle 23 and Calle 24. So 3 complete blocks where everything is safe.

Carrera 15 from Calle 22 to Calle 23 is also safe.

Some streets to the south in Calle 19 you find the infamous "enrejadas" which are prostitutes behind bars / gates, they charge incredibly low like 15 k and their normal customers are homeless people. Here is where a normal Colombian guy might start to get a bit scared.


Keep the reports coming. How do you find about these Mezzanines? I do not want to go and knock on the wrong door.You don't even need to knock the door. The girls themselves will open all the doors and go out in sexy outfits trying to lure you in! They will see you going upstairs in the cameras.

Basically once you finish going up the stairs you have 2 options.

1. go to your right to the end of the hallway, where you find mezzanine 8 which is the last door. Here maybe you need to knock because this door is facing the street so girls are not going out in underwear.

2. keep going straight to the mezzanines in the back of the building which are not facing the street. Here all the doors are used for prostitution and the girls will open and invite you in very cheerfully.

Also the only door in the Mezzanine that is not used for prostitution is a restaurant which is always open and even has the tables outside. So it's impossible to get lost.

[LatinaLover#1]

Glad to hear you had a mostly good time. The first time I came to Colombia I actually knew nothing about the mongering scene. I came with a friend to meet up with a Colombian friend we knew from back home but had moved back to Colombia. He took us out all over Bogota and we had the time of our lives. I even had a Colombian girlfriend for a while. The locals know of more discreet and lesser known casas all over the city. They're really big into the online scene as well.

As for SF, I can second that even normal Colombian guys tread carefully. The first time I mentioned it to my Colombian friend his eyes lit up and portrayed a clear sense of extreme apprehension. He warned of its dangers, not being there late at night alone, etc. The place is dangerous and there are only so many things one can do to mitigate risk. Because of my background, the way I look, and my youth, I feel relatively comfortable moving around there. But it should be noted that only makes me LESS of a target. I, and everyone else there, is still a target of opportunity. By employing some common sense principles like staying where there's a lot of people, not pulling out huge wads of cash, keeping your phone in your pocket (if you bring it at all), dressing like a Colombian to the best of your ability, leaving the jewelry at home, walking like you belong, making sure the waiter opens your beer in front of you, and having some situational awareness will go a way in avoiding trouble. And for the love of all that is holy, if you're going to go to SF, stick to the main areas where the most people are located. Woodman does a good job explaining it on his tour and there are areas you most certainly would want to avoid.Lets assume your not a drunk Gringo and have some street savvy, SF is still dangerous. There are some on this site that will down play the dangers of SF because they have an ax to grind. But ruling out the obvious, jewelry, phone cash etc First, dressing like a local is not guaranteed safety, good advice but not fail safe. Most people who get robbed or even killed in Bogota are Colombians living in Bogota. Having been to Bogota many many times over the last 15 years and having a Casacita for a novia I've seen way too many tragedies. Just in her family, who are life long residents of Bogota and are very very street smart, have been victims. Her father, a taxi driver and before that a bus driver has been shot 4 times. Twice by thieves who jumped on his bus to rob the passengers and twice, a block from his house. Once in the leg and once in the head. He spent 2 months in a coma but the tough ass Latino recovered and is driving his taxi. Her mother was robbed of her pay, a common occurrence on Fridays, payday, at gunpoint in a little town S / W of Bogota where she worked. Countless phones lost by all family members, all mugged numerous times. And don't get a feeling your safe in a crowded place because most of the muggings happen where there are lots of people and historically Bogotanos DON"T get involved. Follow the advice of the member above but remember most crimes are random and can happen in a flash so stay vigilant and be safe. Nothing ruins a trip like a mugging or jail.

[Aureliano16]

Lets assume your not a drunk Gringo and have some street savvy, SF is still dangerous. There are some on this site that will down play the dangers of SF because they have an ax to grind. But ruling out the obvious, jewelry, phone cash etc First, dressing like a local is not guaranteed safety, good advice but not fail safe. Most people who get robbed or even killed in Bogota are Colombians living in Bogota. Having been to Bogota many many times over the last 15 years and having a Casacita for a novia I've seen way too many tragedies. Just in her family, who are life long residents of Bogota and are very very street smart, have been victims. Her father, a taxi driver and before that a bus driver has been shot 4 times. Twice by thieves who jumped on his bus to rob the passengers and twice, a block from his house. Once in the leg and once in the head. He spent 2 months in a coma but the tough ass Latino recovered and is driving his taxi. Her mother was robbed of her pay, a common occurrence on Fridays, payday, at gunpoint in a little town S / W of Bogota where she worked. Countless phones lost by all family members, all mugged numerous times. And don't get a feeling your safe in a crowded place because most of the muggings happen where there are lots of people and historically Bogotanos DON"T get involved. Follow the advice of the member above but remember most crimes are random and can happen in a flash so stay vigilant and be safe. Nothing ruins a trip like a mugging or jail.Being mugged is not the end of the world. In Colombia and probably in all Latin America I recommend not taking the latest iphone out of the hotel and just go out with a cheap android phone. Also don't take too much money in cash at once (this one is pretty obvious everywhere in the world I think). Then if you actually get mugged, you do nothing stupid like fighting or arguing, you just hand your trash android phone + the little money you took out from the hotel. No trip should be ruined for that IMO. Of course a different story is getting shot or stabbed, and yes that happens to a lot of Colombians every day. But not in the SF or in the most touristry places. And as I said if you don't fight or argue and just hand all your belongings you should be fine.

But I stand my point about the SF neighborhood. It's extremely safe at least if your worry is getting robbed. Let's put it like this, a lot of Colombian thieves visit the SF often, but when they go there is to spend the loot, they are not "working" there.

[MusicGringo]

My usual approach is to start talking to them, introduce myself, small talk, start feeling them up and grinding on her, if the response is good I will ask about un rato.Looking for a guide to help me out during the trip (can't speak Spanish) - will be there from 18th all the way till the end of the month. Thanks a lot.

[JohnnyWishBone]

My only recommendation is always stay in the crowded areas, that would be KR 15,16 and 16 A between Calle 23 and Calle 24. So 3 complete blocks where everything is safe.

Carrera 15 from Calle 22 to Calle 23 is also safe.

Some streets to the south in Calle 19 you find the infamous "enrejadas" which are prostitutes behind bars / gates, they charge incredibly low like 15 k and their normal customers are homeless people. Here is where a normal Colombian guy might start to get a bit scared.

Thanks Aureliano for the details on the Calles and Carreras in Santa Fé. It's good to know which streets to base the walks on.

For those who want an idea on the lay of the land, I found City Walks' page on YouTube quite useful; bar the intro where he plays an opening theme tune, the entire walk has no background music so it gives you a sense of the sights and sounds of the area. Link to one of the walks: https://youtu.be/ofEDGiQbxRc.

JW.

[Woodman09]

Went to SF on Tuesday-- Was a little slow on the streets-- I went to Atonis and there were 12+ girls at least 7+ that I wanted to session with just sitting around-actually had been with 4 of them before) They were actually practicing lapdances and teaching the new girls how to eat each other out LOL-- just about 8 guys or so were there. Had a great session with my favorite a Great GFE quickee. Did not get robbed or stabbed.

Went to SF on Wednesday showing this guy around walked around checked out the SGs was a ok-- We went to Troya, Atonis and Venus was good, Did not get robbed or stabbed.

Went on Friday twice once early to see mi Favorita and then later about 1 am to show another ISGer around-- Early was off the hook in the streets and all the clubs were happening. At 1 am we went to Troya was ok. Atonis was Really good lotsa talent I would definitely get with. Venus was off the hook Many many hot College Co-ed looking girls-- We had beers the guy I was with sessioned with a pretty hot girl. We then went to Fiebre was pretty good-- We did not get robbed or stabbed.

[TiaVoyage25]

Landed in Bogota last night and was in my hotel within an hour of landing. Moving to an Airbnb later today to be closer to SF.

Around 10 pm I decided to wander over to SF. I knew the clubs would be closed because Woodman was kind enough to give me a heads up. Elections are going on so Ley Seca is in effect until tomorrow morning. Walking around I saw a few decent SGs but was largely unimpressed from what is normally in the clubs. If I had to guess, I probably saw 50 girls actively working, though there are always many others casually walking around, hanging out with their friends, or grabbing snacks in shops. Of the 50 or so actively working across the main 3 ish block area, about 6 or 7 were in the 7+ range. Saw one 9 but she was obviously busy pretty much the entire time I was there. The police presence seemed to be a little extra, but I expect that is because of the election.

I walked around for about an hour before finally deciding on a tall Colombiana. 7 in the face and I thought 7. 5 in the body. I was deceived by her choice of clothing because once it came off I wasn't that impressed. She did her job well though and without complaints. When the knock came she said to not worry about it and kept going. I finished, cleaned up, and gave her a small propina, though she didn't ask. Total was 40 k including the propina I gave. I have noticed that the Colombianas tend to ask for more than the Venezuelans. As I walked out I noticed that police seemed to be ushering people to leave. I don't think there was a curfew but I expect they wanted to get people to bed so they could vote in the election today LOL.

On a different note, I must revise my previous statements regarding safety. I did a bit of research and examined the crime maps of Bogota, specifically Santa Fe. The whole of SF is the most dangerous zone in Bogota, but on surface level that is deceiving. SF is actually a pretty large area and the farther south and west you go, the worse it gets. The SF we frequent is on the most northeastern tip, which is heavily policed and tons of people walking around at pretty much all times. Honestly, the most dangerous part of SF to me is getting there and leaving, as some of the surrounding areas can be sketchy. Once I'm inside I breathe a little easier.

In summary, I too did not get robbed or stabbed.

[Vagabundo1]

https://youtu.be/OsTgrqSzQ7A

How does this compare?


Landed in Bogota last night and was in my hotel within an hour of landing. Moving to an Airbnb later today to be closer to SF.

Around 10 pm I decided to wander over to SF. I knew the clubs would be closed because Woodman was kind enough to give me a heads up. Elections are going on so Ley Seca is in effect until tomorrow morning. Walking around I saw a few decent SGs but was largely unimpressed from what is normally in the clubs. If I had to guess, I probably saw 50 girls actively working, though there are always many others casually walking around, hanging out with their friends, or grabbing snacks in shops. Of the 50 or so actively working across the main 3 ish block area, about 6 or 7 were in the 7+ range. Saw one 9 but she was obviously busy pretty much the entire time I was there. The police presence seemed to be a little extra, but I expect that is because of the election.

I walked around for about an hour before finally deciding on a tall Colombiana. 7 in the face and I thought 7. 5 in the body. I was deceived by her choice of clothing because once it came off I wasn't that impressed. She did her job well though and without complaints. When the knock came she said to not worry about it and kept going. I finished, cleaned up, and gave her a small propina, though she didn't ask. Total was 40 k including the propina I gave. I have noticed that the Colombianas tend to ask for more than the Venezuelans. As I walked out I noticed that police seemed to be ushering people to leave. I don't think there was a curfew but I expect they wanted to get people to bed so they could vote in the election today LOL..

[NeilGeorge]

Last time I was in Santa Fe I did not get robbed or stabbed either. But I had a weird guy follow me. And say things to me. Not sure if he would pull out a knife or try to sell me drugs. So I ducked into a small corner restaurant and waited there for 10-15 minutes and then left, half walking, half running until I got to my hotel San Francisco.

[Jim2288]

Landed late Friday night, headed to the Grand Park Hotel. Looked good in pics, but hated it when I arrived. A girl I met on Milerotico in August met me at the hotel and stayed the night. Next morning, I booked a room at the Embassy Suites by Hilton. Should've booked there the first time.

Santa Fe:

Next morning, I went to Santa Fe to checkout the scene. Had a quick visit with a cute girl (name slipped my mind) for 40 k. Probably overpaid for the services, nothing to write home about. Didn't get stabbed. LOL. I didn't walk around either. Just had the car sit outside and wait on me. I prefer driving around, negotiating at the car window, and then getting out and going in. It could be the safest place in the world and that's how I would do it. It's easier, my driver can help me negotiate, and everything is settled before I even step out of the car.

Mezzanine:

Next, I went to Mezzanine. Didn't know where it was, but saw another post that said it was near the Dann Carlton Hotel. I googled Mezzanine and Ababellas de la 104 popped up and it was close to Dann Carlton. Had the driver take me there. Saw "Mezzanine" signs outside on the second floor of the building. Walked up the stairs (stairs are outside: from other posts I somehow thought this was inside cause the girls would open the doors in lingerie. Nope, it's outside and the door opens up to the outside) and walked around towards the back. The first door opened and the girl that opened was gorgeous. I didn't bother looking at the other girls. Quoted 250 k that included BBBJ. Tiny room and you do most of the action standing up, but it was nice. I really liked it. Would definitely go back.

Agency Outcall to Room:

Then I had a girl come to my room at Embassy Suites. Found her on mileroticos, turned out to be an agency (eroticasbogota.com). They asked which girl I wanted and I picked Salome. I'm certain I overpaid. The site said it was 250 k and BBBJ was included. She said BBBJ was not included, but it was a must for me, so I offered more money. Finally settled on 350 k. Again, probably too much, but I have zero regrets. She was a sweetheart and very good at what she does. A major bonus was that she spoke English. It wasn't perfect, but it was pretty good. Of the options (Santa Fe, spa, and outcall to hotel) I much prefer the outcall. When the girl arrived, she was sent to the reception desk. They called and I said she could come up. No issue at all. But I haven't tried a second guest at this hotel yet so we'll see how that goes tonight.

Now it's a little after 6 pm And I'm not sure I can go another round. Three in one day is a bit much. But, I will definitely have one more girl come over tonight and then I fly out in the morning.

[LatinaLover#1]

Being mugged is not the end of the world. In Colombia and probably in all Latin America I recommend not taking the latest iphone out of the hotel and just go out with a cheap android phone. Also don't take too much money in cash at once (this one is pretty obvious everywhere in the world I think). Then if you actually get mugged, you do nothing stupid like fighting or arguing, you just hand your trash android phone + the little money you took out from the hotel. No trip should be ruined for that IMO. Of course a different story is getting shot or stabbed, and yes that happens to a lot of Colombians every day. But not in the SF or in the most touristry places. And as I said if you don't fight or argue and just hand all your belongings you should be fine.

But I stand my point about the SF neighborhood. It's extremely safe at least if your worry is getting robbed. Let's put it like this, a lot of Colombian thieves visit the SF often, but when they go there is to spend the loot, they are not "working" there.A few years back, before Maduro and Covid it was like you say, give up a cheap phone and throw a few Pesos and you can get away from Colombian thieves. Ask anybody familiar with Bogota and it's not Colombians but the very violent Venezuelan gangs, many of the Venezuelans shoot first why rob later. Here is a quote "First they murder and then they steal, we need guarantees for Colombians," said the local president in a statement.

There is a very violent gang of Venezuelan immigrants in Bogota that will not fall for that trick. Listen, I'm not saying SF is another 'EL BRONX" but is not a safe place. I hope your attitude doesn't get you hurt. As far as Woodman goes, he's a great guy and knows SF well in fact I met him in SF years ago and he does a good job. You can go there and have a good time but have a cavalier attitude when there, it can get you in big time trouble. I didn't write this to condemn SF just some information that might help keep some newbies safe.

[MarquisdeSade1]

A few years back, before Maduro and Covid it was like you say, give up a cheap phone and throw a few Pesos and you can get away from Colombian thieves. Ask anybody familiar with Bogota and it's not Colombians but the very violent Venezuelan gangs, many of the Venezuelans shoot first why rob later. Here is a quote "First they murder and then they steal, we need guarantees for Colombians," said the local president in a statement.

There is a very violent gang of Venezuelan immigrants in Bogota that will not fall for that trick. Listen, I'm not saying SF is another 'EL BRONX" but is not a safe place. I hope your attitude doesn't get you hurt. As far as Woodman goes, he's a great guy and knows SF well in fact I met him in SF years ago and he does a good job. You can go there and have a good time but have a cavalier attitude when there, it can get you in big time trouble. I didn't write this to condemn SF just some information that might help keep some newbies safe.Beware of anyone that calls any 3rd world RLD "It's extremely safe".

I've been there and think anyone that thinks its extremely safe is a fool and is going to find it isn't.

I've also been to Tijuana a million times and there are many mongers that say its extremely safe, why? Because they haven't been killed, yet?

And you also have to look at different variables a big guy 35 yo 6 foot 6 and 325 lbs all muscle may have less risk than the older BM that in his 60's.

With a limp and bad heart.

Telling the whole world on ISG SF is extremely safe is extremely reckless at best.

[Ggekko2009]

I will be in Bogota next week till the end of the month. I will be staying near Zona T. Send me a PM me if you would like to grab a drink and share stories.

I have a long list of SA girls this time ready to meet me for a fee. More than enough to cycle through them during my stay several times over even if a significant portion of them do not pan out. Some of them are college students and some of them speak pretty good English. Anyway, this will be my first experience with them and it will be like a box of chocolate. You never know what you will get. Regardless, there is always the tried and true route of escort agencies there.

[Ggekko2009]

Agency Outcall to Room:

Then I had a girl come to my room at Embassy Suites. Found her on mileroticos, turned out to be an agency (eroticasbogota.com). They asked which girl I wanted and I picked Salome. I'm certain I overpaid. The site said it was 250 k and BBBJ was included. She said BBBJ was not included, but it was a must for me, so I offered more money. Finally settled on 350 k. Again, probably too much, but I have zero regrets. She was a sweetheart and very good at what she does. A major bonus was that she spoke English. It wasn't perfect, but it was pretty good. Of the options (Santa Fe, spa, and outcall to hotel) I much prefer the outcall. When the girl arrived, she was sent to the reception desk. They called and I said she could come up. No issue at all. But I haven't tried a second guest at this hotel yet so we'll see how that goes tonight.

No, you did not overpay. BBBJ is always an extra price with eroticasbogota. The price is clearly listed on their website. I believe those extra services the girls get to keep completely and not share it with their agency which is an extra bonus for them.

[Pussycat123]

I visited SF twice. First time, no issues.

Second time I was robbed by a streetwalker who rifled though my clothes while she was giving me a BJ. I suspected but wasnt sure until after, and damn, with hands that fast she should be a magician.

It was my fault really for being careles.

Compare that with 7 visits to Angles City, robbed once. Also by a stretwalker in my room. Also because I was careless.

So is SF "Safe? Well, you decide.

[LatinaLover#1]

My Novias brother was working in the voting polls yesterday, in Colombia if they solicit you to work the voting in Colombia you need to go or they fine you or worse. So her brother was instructed to go work in Suba, another dangerous area, his last phone was robbed so he was using his mothers phone yesterday to stay in contact with the family. He was very aggressively robbed by 3 guys, Venezuelans, at gun point and he was dressed as a local duh. No Jewelry bla bla bla A street savvy guy 24 yrs old, near the voting area. Then one guy held the gun to his head while the other 2 ripped his pockets open looking for money and stole the phone and a few pesos he had for the transmillenio. Now no phone for him or mommy. He went to a relatives house in Suba to sleep and that was the last I heard.

Listen please. People around, doesn't mean A THING, night time day time none of it is a guarantee you will be safe. Bogota, in general is a very dangerous city now. It was dangerous 10 years ago but exponentially more so in the last 3 years. I use to think it was dangerous to walk around Rua Djalma Ulrich around the corner from Help, in Copa but that was a walk in the park compared to these days in Bogota. Hopefully my experiences in Bogota will keep some guys safe and I'm sure others will thing they know it all and will continue to defy the odds but nobody knows when or where it will happen but it WILL happen sooner or later.

[Fudi Maar]

I don't want to get involved in the "Santa Fe is safe / dangerous" debate, but I'm in Bogota right now, and been here a while, and just wanted to share my 2-pence worth.

I wanted to see Santa Fe with my own eyes, and walked there one Saturday afternoon, carrying no phone, little money, and wearing dirty clothes with a full face-mask, cap etc so as not to stand out. I did a walk where all the main clubs are (Fibre etc) and saw many girls standing around. I saw 10-year old kids on bicycles handing little packets to older guys, and of course, the expected assortment of druggies, down-and-out characters and zombies.

I didn't monger with any girl, although there were many very bangable ones.

I have also been to casas in Chapinero. In one of them (here you go: Calle 64 # 15-34) I can have a beer for 6 K, have a "un rato" with any of the girls for 30 K. Last Tue, there were 12-15 bangable chicas, but only about 6-8 on Sat. I've enjoyed the company of some of them. The vibe in here is pretty good with lots of comings and goings, and a bit of a party atmosphere.

I've banged numerous chicas in other casas for 35 K, and almost all times getting a good service. I've had BBBJ and CFS at Spa Tantra for 50 K with a lovely girl.

So, the question I ask myself is. Why would I pick up a SW in Santa Fe (with the imaginary / real risks) when I can enjoy the comfort and safety of a casa for the same price?

And when the girls in a casa have more incentive to give better service. Having said that, I can, however, see the attraction of going into the clubs in Santa Fe (esp with friends) and making a real evening of it. And the girls there are probably higher quality (or they may seem like it due to the makeup, lighting, attire, club atmosphere).

I'm not trying to persuade anyone to either go to or not go to Santa Fe (or the casas). I really have no dog in this fight. To each their own. For those who enjoy Santa Fe, great, and for those that don't like it, that's fine too.

Santa Fe is just one option in the city where there is a lot of pussy to be enjoyed.

[MarquisdeSade1]

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[TiaVoyage25]

I didn't do any mongering during the day as I need to get some real life work done after moving to a new Airbnb closer to SF. Ordered some food off of Rapi, watched some TV, then decided to walk over to SF around 10 pm. Once again, I knew the clubs would be closed due to Ley Seca.

Once in SF, I was quickly disappointed. There were maybe 4-5 bangable girls working in the main 3 block area. It was kind of dead overall with significantly fewer people around than the night before. This is understandable as it is Sunday night in a South American country. I had two sessions and decided to test my Colombiana vs. Venezuelan pricing theory. The Colombian wanted 50 k (LOL ok fine) and then Venezuelan asked for 35 k. Just as I expected. Standard service and wasn't rushed either time. Both were friendly, though of course this isn't Brazil so you aren't getting top notch service.

I left around 1130 and walked back to my Airbnb. Did not get robbed or stabbed.

[DiegoSan4]

Don't know about ABNB, but I stayed at the Hotel NH Collection Bogot Andino Royal and absolutely no problems at all with bringing girls at all hours of the day and night.

It's a very nice hotel with a great rooftop terraza where I entertained a couple of civvies before banging them (for free) in the room.

At TiaVoyage25 and at GoldMembr. I would love to meet up and share experiences etc, but I cannot DM anyone, because I cannot seem to figure out how to pay the $25 subs. My credit cards are all getting rejected by Coinbase. Does anyone know how I can get around this? My cards are from UK based banks, and phoning the banks and explaining this whilst I'm in Bogota is not so straightforward.

I suspect my cards are not "3 D secure". And in addition, many credit cards do not permit crypto transactions.

Anyway, on a brighter note, I went to a casa on Calle 57 today, Chapinero, and banged 4 chicas, each "un rato" for a 35 K, as a trial run. I don't even do 30 minutes anymore if it's my first time with the girl. I just want to check her attitude, compatibility and general demeaner in the room. Out of the four, I will repeat with two of them for a longer time on my next visit.

One was a Venezualana with a big ass. Perfect. Afterwards, the asked if I wanted her phone number, and if I lived close by. I think she wants to do a private deal, which I would be more than happy with.Hey Fudi,

Great info. On chapinero casas. Would you happen to have an exact address on the calle 57 casa? Not on the map. Any other specific recommendations with addresses in the general area besides.

The already mentioned Calle 64 # 15-34 and Tantras?

[Mtljay]

Found this link on another forum.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1CX1vHGuVsmU_8yLjh7e8kCQQ7F_uTduz&ll=4.652436578191971%2C-74.06181521424033&z=16

Do these places look like bars or are they houses?

[Fudi Maar]

Hey Fudi,

Great info. On chapinero casas. Would you happen to have an exact address on the calle 57 casa? Not on the map. Any other specific recommendations with addresses in the general area besides.

The already mentioned Calle 64 # 15-34 and Tantras?Diego,

Mtljay kindly posted a wonderful map, a couple of posts after yours. That is a great way to locate the casas.

The one of Calle 57 is called "Rosquillas 57" on that map. The location is very accurate. And don't worry about not finding it. As soon as you get near it, a guy wearing a luminous orange water-proof coat will see you and hand you a little slip, and he'll take you to the door if you maintain eye contact with him. I've just come back from shagging a couple of chicas from there right now.

However. If you want 7+ quality girls, then this is not the right place. They're pretty average looking here, and a couple are even unshaggable. But I like the girl next door types with big asses, and I find them here. Today at 2 pm, there was only 1 other guy apart from me, and only 4 girls. Last Mon at 6 pm, there were 6 girls and 4-5 guys. I guess there is a sweet spot for the timings, after people finish work.

MtlJay - "Do these places look like bars or are they houses?

Good question. All they have a basic dirty looking door. That's it. Nothing else. There are no signs, no neon lights and nothing to indicate what goes on inside. They would be very hard to find if it wasn't for the guys standing at the door saying "chichas?" as you walk past, or handing you a little slip with the address on street corners nearby.

Once inside, the two that I am a regular at, are like a bar. Loud music, porn playing on TV (or a soccer game if one is on), you can just have a beer for 6 K and chill. No pressure to bang, and no sense of feeling at risk or being taken advantage of. I speak practically no Spanish, and I'm the only extranjero in these places, but I feel fine. The staff now recognize me, and give me a fist-pump as I enter.

The number and quality of girls various a lot. Sometimes there's a lot of shaggable ones, and sometimes, very few.

Sadly, I cannot figure out a way to pay the $25 sub for this wonderful forum (coinbase rejects all my credit and debit cards), otherwise I'd be up for PM's and meeting up.

[DiegoSan4]

Found this link on another forum.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1CX1vHGuVsmU_8yLjh7e8kCQQ7F_uTduz&ll=4.652436578191971%2C-74.06181521424033&z=16

Do these places look like bars or are they houses?Those are mostly if not entirely houses. (casas). What other forum did you find it on? It says that it was published 8 days ago but that could have been the last update date?

It looks fairly up to date making it a gold mine of exactly what I was looking for. Any idea if it really was only published 8 days ago and thus completely up to date?

[Tasss]

First I should state I've been somewhat sidetracked in my investigations (as often occurs) by the 18 yr old spinner Vennie who I've been seeing daily in addition to my other field work. It turns out she lives with her family (mother and younger brothers) literally a block away from me and so the convenience and established standard of service has been hard to refuse. At this point we've established a 1. 5 hour session with BBFS and CIM (finally) for 150 mil pesos. I get the feeling the mother sends her over when they need grocery money.Do you remember her name?

[TiaVoyage25]

First night after Ley Seca and SF is back to business for the most part.

I wandered over earlier this time, around 9 pm. After walking the streets for a while I decided to check out most of the clubs. I went to Atonis, Troya, Paisas, Fiebra, and Venus. Atonis had a lot of dudes and about 15 girls. Of those 15, maybe 5-6 were bangable. No stunners but there was one 7. In Troya, there weren't a lot of girls but also not a lot of guys. The girls that were there were pretty decent overall. I'the say probably 6-8 girls at any time and 4-5 were bangable. Of note, there was one solid 8 who I wanted to do but she was dancing on stage the whole time. I had to take a moment to just appreciate the stamina some of these girls have. Paisas I went into one time and was unimpressed. Saw like two girls who were unattractive and then I left. Fiebre had a ton of girls and most were pretty stunning. As a caveat, I like the whole fake boobs and big ass look so it was definitely a place I appreciated. That being said, the second I walked in I got a huge headache because there was some incense in the air that was overwhelming. It smelled good but it was too strong for my liking. In my years of visiting I've never seen that before so I have no idea when that was implemented, but it must have been recently. Sadly, I had to leave because it was bothering me so much.

Lastly I went to Venus. The talent was ok and there wasn't a huge selection but I went with an early 20's Colombian with a perfect ass and well shaped tits. BBBJ and CFS for 80 k. She wanted 60 k without BBBJ. I tipped the maid upstairs very well and by the time the knock came, my shoes were already on.

I decided to call it a night and began my trek back to the Airbnb. It is a short walk from SF, but I noticed some people hanging around the route I usually take so I diverted and took another just to be safe.

I will be back in SF tomorrow night to enjoy myself some more!

[Mtljay]

https://foroprepagoscolombia.com/ is an escort review site in Spanish. I do not know any Spanish but google translate does a decent job.

If you are after escorts this is a worthwhile site as it's kind of like yelp for escorts.


Those are mostly if not entirely houses. (casas). What other forum did you find it on? It says that it was published 8 days ago but that could have been the last update date?

It looks fairly up to date making it a gold mine of exactly what I was looking for. Any idea if it really was only published 8 days ago and thus completely up to date?

[Mtljay]

Here is a google street view of this location with the picture of a guy handing out info. LOL.

https://www.google.com/maps/@4.643867,-74.0639182,3a,19.4y,197.1h,86.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLPMTnTVkv5yJnn4Zj4oosw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=es

But looking at the map (https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1CX1vHGuVsmU_8yLjh7e8kCQQ7F_uTduz&ll=4.652436578191971%2C-74.06181521424033&z=16) this place looks like out of away from other brothels. Calie 68 seems to have a cluster.




The one of Calle 57 is called "Rosquillas 57" on that map. The location is very accurate. And don't worry about not finding it. As soon as you get near it, a guy wearing a luminous orange water-proof coat will see you and hand you a little slip, and he'll take you to the door if you maintain eye contact with him. I've just come back from shagging a couple of chicas from there right now.

[Mtljay]

Has anyone come across a list that lists all the Spanish words for items like BBBJ, CIM etc. For example this list in Spanish.

https://www.allacronyms.com/escorts/abbreviations

[Woodman09]

All the talk about Danger -- I agree that Santa Fe can be dangerous, but it is more dangerous for some than others. I think if you stick around the north stroll and club area like this gentleman did you are in not in much danger. That would be the area between Calle 22 and Calle 24 / Carrera 15 and Carrera 16 a. I do walk to my place going home (about 5 blocks) and rarely will cab-- There usually are police all over. I have never had a problem but I remain vigilant.

I actually really enjoy the street life outside of the area. So many people out and about -- pretty girls and cute kids running around. It reminds me of Spanish Harlem in the 60's.

It's a vibrant community tons of street food and vendors. It's real life happening unlike most neighborhoods in the US where everyone stays inside. I often shop on Calle 22 business district.

I wrote a brief report a few days ago and have written many reports on SF-- I just want to say I do not always have it in me to describe every nuance and fantastic experience. But I would not be going there if the place was not fantastic. My pussy playground fulfills my sexual needs greatly. I need to write more and actually do make many personal notes and essays. If I don't write, when I die all my thoughts and experiences shall be gone, as a man from the future once said 'Like Tears in Rain'.


First night after Ley Seca and SF is back to business for the most part.

I wandered over earlier this time, around 9 pm. After walking the streets for a while I decided to check out most of the clubs. I went to Atonis, Troya, Paisas, Fiebra, and Venus. Atonis had a lot of dudes and about 15 girls. Of those 15, maybe 5-6 were bangable. No stunners but there was one 7. In Troya, there weren't a lot of girls but also not a lot of guys. The girls that were there were pretty decent overall. I'the say probably 6-8 girls at any time and 4-5 were bangable. Of note, there was one solid 8 who I wanted to do but she was dancing on stage the whole time. I had to take a moment to just appreciate the stamina some of these girls have. Paisas I went into one time and was unimpressed. Saw like two girls who were unattractive and then I left. Fiebre had a ton of girls and most were pretty stunning. As a caveat, I like the whole fake boobs and big ass look so it was definitely a place I appreciated. That being said, the second I walked in I got a huge headache because there was some incense in the air that was overwhelming. It smelled good but it was too strong for my liking. In my years of visiting I've never seen that before so I have no idea when that was implemented, but it must have been recently.

[Fudi Maar]

I've been busy shagging chicas. After a bad experience with a Seeking girl who came over at noon, I decided to head out to the casas and banged 4 new ones.

Here's a run down of the good, bad and ugly of the 3 new casas I visited (please refer to the map here https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/vi...521424033&z=16).

"Chuzo 64" - on the corner of Calle 64 and Avenida Caracas.

Avoid. The guy standing outside lures you in and there is a girl standing next to him. As I walked upstairs to the sound of music, I enter an totally empty bar. No guys and no girls.

The girl following me, then stands in front of me tries to do a little erotic dance. I say "Solo una chica?" and she nods. I immediately rush down the stairs, and get away.

"Donde Diego" - near the corner of Calle 64 and Carrera 15 (100 feet away from another club that I reviewed earlier, "Rosquillas 64".

Poor. Looks like a sad, neglected place. Run down little room, and one old guy sitting there. Four girls. Two Afro origin and two Caucasians. I chose a hot curvy Afro girl.

Prices: Beer is 5 K and "un rato" (20 minutes) is 25 K. This is the cheapest I've seen, but I can understand why.

Don't go out of your way to visit this place, but if you are walking past on the way out of "Rosquillas 64" (like I was), then maybe walk in. You don't even need to buy a beer. Ask to see.

The girls and if none take your fancy, just walk out.

"La Bonita" - On Carrera 15 near Caller 68.

I thought I'd be in for another poor experience, but once the door opened, I was very pleasantly surprised. There is major refurbishment going on right now, but I can see that in a few weeks.

This place will be awesome internally. Large sala, with numerous TV screens, and quite a few guys coming and going. About 12-14 girls introduced themselves to me. A couple of real cuties.

I banged both of them.

Prices: Beer 5 K, 20 minutes for 30 K, and 30 minutes for 35 K. I was offered (and took) BBBJ as an extra for 30 K (a bit expensive if you ask me, but she was my type).

Enjoy fellas.

[Mtljay]

Here is the correct link for the map.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1CX1vHGuVsmU_8yLjh7e8kCQQ7F_uTduz&ll=4.652436578191971%2C-74.06181521424033&z=16


I've been busy shagging chicas. After a bad experience with a Seeking girl who came over at noon, I decided to head out to the casas and banged 4 new ones.

Here's a run down of the good, bad and ugly of the 3 new casas I visited (please refer to the map here https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/vi...521424033&z=16).

"Chuzo 64" - on the corner of Calle 64 and Avenida Caracas.

Avoid. The guy standing outside lures you in and there is a girl standing next to him. As I walked upstairs to the sound of music, I enter an totally empty bar. No guys and no girls.

The girl following me, then stands in front of me tries to do a little erotic dance. I say "Solo una chica?" and she nods. I immediately rush down the stairs, and get away.

"Donde Diego" - near the corner of Calle 64 and Carrera 15 (100 feet away from another club that I reviewed earlier, "Rosquillas 64".

Poor. Looks like a sad, neglected place. Run down little room, and one old guy sitting there. Four girls. Two Afro origin and two Caucasians. I chose a hot curvy Afro girl.

Prices: Beer is 5 K and "un rato" (20 minutes) is 25 K. This is the cheapest I've seen, but I can understand why.

Don't go out of your way to visit this place, but if you are walking past on the way out of "Rosquillas 64" (like I was), then maybe walk in. You don't even need to buy a beer. Ask to see.

The girls and if none take your fancy, just walk out.

"La Bonita" - On Carrera 15 near Caller 68.

I thought I'd be in for another poor experience, but once the door opened, I was very pleasantly surprised. There is major refurbishment going on right now, but I can see that in a few weeks.

This place will be awesome internally. Large sala, with numerous TV screens, and quite a few guys coming and going. About 12-14 girls introduced themselves to me. A couple of real cuties.

I banged both of them.

Prices: Beer 5 K, 20 minutes for 30 K, and 30 minutes for 35 K. I was offered (and took) BBBJ as an extra for 30 K (a bit expensive if you ask me, but she was my type).

Enjoy fellas.

[Pussycat123]

Diego,

The number and quality of girls various a lot. Sometimes there's a lot of shaggable ones, and sometimes, very few.

Sadly, I cannot figure out a way to pay the $25 sub for this wonderful forum (coinbase rejects all my credit and debit cards), otherwise I'd be up for PM's and meeting up.Put cash in an envelope and mail it to the adress listed. I did, and it worked fine.

[ThePike]

Are these casas open still late at night?

[Mr Enternational]

After a bad experience with a Seeking girl who came over at noon, I decided to head out to the casas and banged 4 new ones.
Important to say what happened with the Seeking girl since it seems many that use it here swear by it.

[Ggekko2009]

Important to say what happened with the Seeking girl since it seems many that use it here swear by it.Do you have any luck or good experience with any of the SA girls?

I have a list of them in my contacts now and will find out pretty soon how that will go. I am not setting any high expectation but will give it a try as one of my avenues.

[Fudi Maar]

Important to say what happened with the Seeking girl since it seems many that use it here swear by it.My 1 month on Seeking expires tomorrow and I have no plans to renew it. I'm in Bogota and will go to Medellin in a few days, so may reconsider it there, depending on my luck with the casas.

Meanwhile, my experiences with Seeking in Bogota have been:

- incredibly time consuming. Several dozens of texts written everyday answering the same questions, etc etc.

- tons of girls have contacted me, and whilst this initially created a sense of abundance, very soon that feeling changed to "oh, here we go again".

- the no-show rates and flake rates are ridiculous. I mean, un-be-lievably bad. No no-show rates run at around 80% - meaning that if I have arranged 10 'dates', then only 2 girls will actually show up.

One Sat, I arranged 3 dates. Morning, afternoon and evening, knowing that at least 1 will not show. It turns out that none of them showed. And none answered my WhatsApp on the day.

This is after agreeing to a time, the services, and the $$$ that I would give them. And what's more, these are girls who contacted me, and asked to meet.

I have been in contact with over 100 girls on Seeking, and actually met 6. Here's a summary.

Girl 1 - average appearance, looks much better when wearing clothes because there is a lot of baby damage (droopy tits, stretch marks etc), but had an incredibly nice attitude and.

Gave me wonderful service. Two hours for 180 K. This is how girls should be.

Girl 2 - Nice looking, but really not into sex, and mediocre service. We had agreed on 200 K, and as she was leaving, asked me if I can give her another 50 K. No chance.

Girl 3 - Terrible. Skinny, no tits, no hips, bad attitude, we agreed on 200 K for 2 hours, after 1 hour, said she had to leave to attend a lecture at uni. I said then I will give you 100 K.

She kicked up a fuss, and threatened to call someone on her phone. Not wanting trouble, I paid her 200 K and got her out of the hotel quick. Scam artist.

Avoid. Her Seeking name is "Aria".

Girl 4 - Beautiful girl, about 23, made a real effort with dress and makeup when she came to see me. We got on well. Then. After an hour of me kissing her and licking her pussy.

I asked for a BJ, and she drops the bombshell. She doesn't do chupa-chupa. That totally killed the vibe for me, and I told her that we have a problem. I terminated the session right.

There and told her that I'll pay her 100 K and was glad to get rid of her. I thought she would be another trouble maker like Girl 3.

Avoid. Her Seeking name is "Kailyn".

These are the girls that I've paid money for. There have been two others that didn't ask for money and right from the start, the vibe with them was that they wanted to date a successful guy.

And that they are not prepagos. One was a MILF, not very nice looking, but she was a dirty woman in bed. Was rimming me an hour after she told me over coffee that she doesn't have sex on the first date. Yeah sure. Another was a late 20's single mother.

YMMV, but frankly, I got a bid tired of Seeking. I like the GFE experience, hence my trial with this app. Otherwise, it makes sense for me to just visit a casa where I can choose a big-ass.

Chica, pay 30 K for a un rato, and if she's good, then just pay extra the next time for additional services.

With Seeking, there are so many unknowns. The girl often looks different to the photos; her attitude may stink; she likely won't even show up.

(P. S- if anyone can tell me how to make some text bold in my posts, then I'd appreciate it.).

(PPS. How long does a new poster like me stay on 'pre-mod'? Right now, all my posts are displayed after they have been vetted and approved.).

[Mtljay]

By any chance do you have names so these girls? Looks like Aria is not seeking any more.

Girl 4 is https://members.seeking.com/member/5883b616-01d7-4500-ad2a-f6be11866868 , looks like she speaks English.

Post the links or names and help out others.




Girl 1 - average appearance, looks much better when wearing clothes because there is a lot of baby damage (droopy tits, stretch marks etc), but had an incredibly nice attitude and.

Gave me wonderful service. Two hours for 180 K. This is how girls should be.

Girl 2 - Nice looking, but really not into sex, and mediocre service. We had agreed on 200 K, and as she was leaving, asked me if I can give her another 50 K. No chance.

Girl 3 - Terrible. Skinny, no tits, no hips, bad attitude, we agreed on 200 K for 2 hours, after 1 hour, said she had to leave to attend a lecture at uni. I said then I will give you 100 K.

She kicked up a fuss, and threatened to call someone on her phone. Not wanting trouble, I paid her 200 K and got her out of the hotel quick. Scam artist.

Avoid. Her Seeking name is "Aria".

Girl 4 - Beautiful girl, about 23, made a real effort with dress and makeup when she came to see me. We got on well. Then. After an hour of me kissing her and licking her pussy.

I asked for a BJ, and she drops the bombshell. She doesn't do chupa-chupa. That totally killed the vibe for me, and I told her that we have a problem. I terminated the session right.

There and told her that I'll pay her 100 K and was glad to get rid of her. I thought she would be another trouble maker like Girl 3.

Avoid. Her Seeking name is "Kailyn".

Girl 5 : These are the girls that I've paid money for. There have been two others that didn't ask for money and right from the start, the vibe with them was that they wanted to date a successful guy.

Girl 6: And that they are not prepagos. One was a MILF, not very nice looking, but she was a dirty woman in bed. Was rimming me an hour after she told me over coffee that she doesn't have sex on the Girl first date. Yeah sure. Another was a late 20's single mother.

[Elvis 2008]

This is after agreeing to a time, the services, and the $$$ that I would give them. And what's more, these are girls who contacted me, and asked to meet. I have been in contact with over 100 girls on Seeking, and actually met 6.I think guys get all hyped up with the responses from seeking women and this happens all the time there. They get excited chatting with women. What I have to wonder is how many of these "women" are actually men trying to scam guys. When I looked at a woman's responses from seeking on SA, 90+% were scammers. The sex with hos is initially better than seeking women. It is the repeats with the best women where the sex is better than with hos.

Here are the seven rules of seeking in Colombia:

1. You will get stood up.

2. You will spend way, way, way more time than just using an escort agency.

3. The sexual service is NOT better.

4. You will spend way, way more money than an escort agency or lower cost venues like casas, Santa Fe, or Centro in Medellin.

5. Seeking is for long term relationships. If you do not have the time or money to pursue a relationship like that, do not use the site. You are wasting your money, the women's time, and ruining the site.

6. Your goal should be to find the one (or two or three) women that are so amazing you want to repeat with and spend time with. These women are just as fun outside the bedroom as in it.

7. Do not feed the WGs.

[Ggekko2009]

My 1 month on Seeking expires tomorrow and I have no plans to renew it. I'm in Bogota and will go to Medellin in a few days, so may reconsider it there, depending on my luck with the casas.

Meanwhile, my experiences with Seeking in Bogota have been:

- incredibly time consuming. Several dozens of texts written everyday answering the same questions, etc etc.

- tons of girls have contacted me, and whilst this initially created a sense of abundance, very soon that feeling changed to "oh, here we go again".

- the no-show rates and flake rates are ridiculous. I mean, un-be-lievably bad. No no-show rates run at around 80% - meaning that if I have arranged 10 'dates', then only 2 girls will actually show up.

...

(PPS. How long does a new poster like me stay on 'pre-mod'? Right now, all my posts are displayed after they have been vetted and approved.).Oh no, that does not bode well for me. I guess I will see how it will turn out for me and I should not really expect too much from SA girls. I guess I would go for a backup if this happens to me.

Also, I think you may have to post up to a certain number to be elavated to a senior member and that would allow your posts to be automatically shown. Plus no previous violations I think. This is just my deduction and may be wrong.

[Fudi Maar]

By any chance do you have names so these girls? Looks like Aria is not seeking any more.

Girl 4 is https://members.seeking.com/member/5883b616-01d7-4500-ad2a-f6be11866868 , looks like she speaks English.

Post the links or names and help out others.I have already included the names of the bad girls in my original post below. In fact, you even refer to one of them (Aria) in your reply.

Girl 2 is called "EveBa".

I cannot post the links, because literally the moment they leave my hotel room, I block them on Seeking, because it's very easy to get banned from there, and I don't want these girls reporting me out of spite. I cannot myself see the links of these girls anymore.

On another matter, does anyone know why the software on this forum keeps putting random full-stops in the middle of some sentences in my posts and then uppercases the first letter of the next word?

[Mr Enternational]

(P. S- if anyone can tell me how to make some text boldin my posts, then I'd appreciate it.).Look at the. Picture that I attached.


(PPS. How long does a new poster like me stay on 'pre-mod'? Right now, all my posts are displayed after they have been vetted and approved.).25 quality posts and 6 months.

[Fudi Maar]

Look at the. Picture that I attached.Thanks Mr E.

However, I cannot actually open the attached picture because I am not a paid-up member (as previously mentioned, I would love to pay my $25, but all my cards are being rejected by Coinbase, and someone mentioned that I should just put cash in an envelope and post it. I'm not American, don't have USD, am currently travelling around in Colombia, so I'll probably do this when I return my home country).

[Nounce]

.. I cannot actually open the attached picture because I am not a paid-up member ....

Click Reply with Quote to see how it is done.

[Woodman09]

Are these casas open still late at night?Usually close at 8-9 pm if not earlier-- Of course, I don't know everything.

[TuneFor]

Any good suggestions which area to choose or avoid when searching for accomodation.

I can see some nice appartments in Santa Fe but not sure what's around them and do they offer value for money.

[DriftClouds]

All the talk about Danger -- I agree that Santa Fe can be dangerous, but it is more dangerous for some than others. I think if you stick around the north stroll and club area like this gentleman did you are in not in much danger. That would be the area between Calle 22 and Calle 24 / Carrera 15 and Carrera 16 a. I do walk to my place going home (about 5 blocks) and rarely will cab-- There usually are police all over. I have never had a problem but I remain vigilant.

I actually really enjoy the street life outside of the area. So many people out and about -- pretty girls and cute kids running around. It reminds me of Spanish Harlem in the 60's.

It's a vibrant community tons of street food and vendors. It's real life happening unlike most neighborhoods in the US where everyone stays inside. I often shop on Calle 22 business district.

I wrote a brief report a few days ago and have written many reports on SF-- I just want to say I do not always have it in me to describe every nuance and fantastic experience. But I would not be going there if the place was not fantastic. My pussy playground fulfills my sexual needs greatly. I need to write more and actually do make many personal notes and essays. If I don't write, when I die all my thoughts and experiences shall be gone, as a man from the future once said 'Like Tears in Rain'.Or I can continue your legend. Haha. I got to learn some Spanish tho.

[Fudi Maar]

Any good suggestions which area to choose or avoid when searching for accomodation.

I can see some nice appartments in Santa Fe but not sure what's around them and do they offer value for money.It depends on what sort of mongering activities you are looking for.

If you are thinking of banging mainly in Santa Fe, then get an apartment / hotel close by, but watch out for the safety aspect.

If you want to do casas, then get something in Chapinero. It doesn't need to be chica friendly as you'll be doing take-out's anyway.

If you want modern, posh, Western style environment, then get something in Zona Rosa.

If you mention the names the nice apartments you've seen around Santa Fe, then maybe others then point out the positives / negatives of them and give you an indication of the area is like.

I'm in Hotel Tequendama. I can walk to Santa Fe if I wanted to (but choose not to), and jump on the transmilenio, and 15 minutes later I'm in Chapinero.

[Druster]

It depends on what sort of mongering activities you are looking for..Fudi Maar,

You have written excellent reports.

Q: Is hotel Tequendama girl friendly?

[TuneFor]

It depends on what sort of mongering activities you are looking for.

If you are thinking of banging mainly in Santa Fe, then get an apartment / hotel close by, but watch out for the safety aspect.

If you want to do casas, then get something in Chapinero. It doesn't need to be chica friendly as you'll be doing take-out's anyway.

If you want modern, posh, Western style environment, then get something in Zona Rosa.

If you mention the names the nice apartments you've seen around Santa Fe, then maybe others then point out the positives / negatives of them and give you an indication of the area is like.

I'm in Hotel Tequendama. I can walk to Santa Fe if I wanted to (but choose not to), and jump on the transmilenio, and 15 minutes later I'm in Chapinero.Thanks for advise.

For me main thing is good value of appartment, doesn't really need to be close to working girls as mainly I will try my luck with semi pros.

So I would say being visit friendly and having decents places to eat in around area would be priority.

[Fudi Maar]

Fudi Maar,

You have written excellent reports.

Q: Is hotel Tequendama girl friendly?Yes, totally girl-friendly until 8 pm. No idea what the charges apply after 8 pm because I'm a day-time banger. Also the sister hotel Tequendama Suites has the same rules.

Normally, I just walk in with the girl, but there's this one security guy who's over-enthusiastic and insists on the girls showing their cedula and registering at reception.

One of the girls I brought in said to me with a smile "This is the protect you," so yes, it makes sense.

Okay, so went out to the casas again today. First call, my favourite one:

Calle 57 # 9-35

I'm sitting having a beer and about to ask one of my favourite girls here for a "un rato" and then a number of police men walk in, in full uniform, with a couple of official looking women.

None of the girls seem bothered and two other mongers, who were having beers with a girl next to them, carry on as normal. I see the police taking lots of photos of the place and saying "documentos, documentos". After a while I ask one of the staff if all is OK, and he confirms that its just a regular check. I need to bang a chica, but I wait. And wait. For the police to leave, but after an hour, they're still there and the girls have started to change into their civilian clothes. I ask one of them about a rato, and she says that the police will close this place now and the girls will all go another club at Carrera 15 No 66-22. So, I left.

Calle 64 #15-16

I just happened to be walking past this sad place (reviewed a couple of days ago), and remembered that there was a bangable girl I had seen here on Mon. So I went in, asked to see the girls, and there were 6 this time. All very average. I immediately went for a un rato with the bangable one (25 K). She wasn't that nice once the clothes came off (baby-damage, stretch marks) but her attitude was spot on, very pleasant and I enjoyed the sex. So, 20 minutes later, I gave her a 5 K tip, and walked out to the next place.

This place really needs a refurbishment. It's not one where you'd take your friends.

Carrera 19 #67-93. Acuarious

There's a batch of 5 casas on this corner (see the google map a few posts below). Wanted to try one. Went upstairs, and immediately regretted it. I was ushered into an empty living room with a sad-looking sofa. No bar, no other person. I thought "Oh damn, here we go. " The mamasan walks in and I ask to see the girls. I suspected she would have 2 un-bangable girls to show me, but there were about 10. And a couple of them were bangable. I picked a nice, girl-next-door type. Early 20's, firm body (no baby damage), and her attitude in the room was awesome. I always try and connect with the girl first verbally with my extremely poor Spanish. My hope is that it makes both of us feel at ease. She was lovely, and kissed on the lips. This is always a great start for me. Long, slow BJ (covered) and then onto sex. She was tight, and I came about 15 minutes later. She really felt like a 'novia' and of course I gave her a tip.

The charges are: 30 minutes for 40 K, and 1 HR for 80 K. There is no un rato option.

I would only return to this place for a specific girl and not for the atmosphere / vibe, because there isn't any. You are effectively walking into someone's apartment where there happen to be girls on offer.

I'll try and attach a map to show which one this casa was.

(P.S. - if any newbie is thinking "How will I find these casas?" "Is there a neon sign or something?" Well, they will find you. As soon as you are about 50 yards away, a guy standing at the door will start waving at you, and say "chicas, chicas".)

[Mtljay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgQLZMTyNp4

Getting robbed is one thing, losing your life is another thing.

This is why I want to stay at a hotel where they take a copy of the girl's IDs, hang out with fellow mongers, and keep an eye on each other.

[MadMax9336]

Yes, totally girl-friendly until 8 pm. No idea what the charges apply after 8 pm because I'm a day-time banger. Also the sister hotel Tequendama Suites has the same rules.

Normally, I just walk in with the girl, but there's this one security guy who's over-enthusiastic and insists on the girls showing their cedula and registering at reception.

One of the girls I brought in said to me with a smile "This is the protect you," so yes, it makes sense.

Okay, so went out to the casas again today. First call, my favourite one:

Calle 57 # 9-35

I'm sitting having a beer and about to ask one of my favourite girls here for a "un rato" and then a number of police men walk in, in full uniform, with a couple of official looking women..Excellent TR and I stayed in Tequendama Suites but only for one night.

As you said you can bring girls with no guest fee until 9 pm. The suites are huge with kitchen, sofa set high floors gives the best view too.

Hope to see some pics as I will give it a try with these casas next time.

[MadMax9336]

Fudi Maar,

You have written excellent reports.

Q: Is hotel Tequendama girl friendly?Yes, I stayed for one night few weeks back. I did not bring any one but asked the agent while checking and he said no issues to being without any fee until 9 pm. After that guest charge is applicable but did not asked how much. Guessing around 70 k or some experts can chime in.

I loved the tequendama suites but only lack of balcony where I cannot lit the cigar while having a drink.

[Ggekko2009]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgQLZMTyNp4

Getting robbed is one thing, losing your life is another thing.

This is why I want to stay at a hotel where they take a copy of the girl's IDs, hang out with fellow mongers, and keep an eye on each other.I watched several of David's videos in the past and he is based mainly out of Medellin. Definitely a good tip and he almost could not come out to say it the last minute of his video. In short, he hinted that if you guys just want to have sex, there are places like casa that are in fact safer than just bringing random girl from the bar who are eager to follow you back to your hotel or AirBnb.

In summary,

1) There are no hookup culture in Colombia, do not expect to get lucky as any eager girls are always up to something. Always approach with huge caution and suspicion.

2) Look out for any unattended drink which will give the girl opportunity to roofie you. Drink from a bottle that is opened in front of you if possible. Get a wingman to party in bar to look out for one another.

3) Cedula or ID, snap a copy of it from your phone to consciously let them know that you have their info. Hopefully, that could at least deter.

Stay safe and have lots of Safe Sex, jejeje.

[Igor54]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgQLZMTyNp4

Getting robbed is one thing, losing your life is another thing.

This is why I want to stay at a hotel where they take a copy of the girl's IDs, hang out with fellow mongers, and keep an eye on each other.You think and look for insurance to come down yourself. #1 any criminal can have fake ID. #2 When a criminal makes a crime, they hope that they've never been caught or just they don't think about anything and do crime. If you think that hotel security safe you from criminals, what if he works with criminals? #3 there are many other safety problems, we just don't know about them.

[Fudi Maar]

1) There are no hookup culture in Colombia, do not expect to get lucky as any eager girls are always up to something. Always approach with huge caution and suspicion.

3) Cedula or ID, snap a copy of it from your phone to consciously let them know that you have their info. Hopefully, that could at least deter.1) Respectfully disagree. There is a very much a hookup culture here. I've experienced it multiple times myself. On dating sites, I have matched, texted and met up with girls for a coffee / beer. If we've clicked, we head back to my hotel and bang. On numerous occasions. Sometimes, the girl just comes straight to the hotel, we chat in the bar for half an hour to build comfort, and then go upstairs to do the deed. No money changes hands. These are regular girls with day jobs. I very rarely drink alcohol with them, and I watch my soft drinks of course, and have all my valuables locked up in various locations in the room.

And on three occasions, these girls have become friends / regulars. I'm seeing one of them tomorrow for our 4th meeting. I like to have a couple of civvie girls in my rotation as well as banging putas in casas.

3) Asking them to give you their cedula so you can take a photo of it will not help built rapport. In fact, it will destroy it. It will kill the mood, and if the girl is a non-WG, then there's a good chance that I can kiss goodbye to any sort of action. And if the girl is a scammer, then having a photo of their cedula on my phone will be of little help if they then scopolamine my ass and steal that phone.

I personally know a guy here who was scopolamined. It happened in a bar, where 2-3 girlfriends were all telling him how handsome he was, and in his own words "they kept making me drink". Two obvious red-flags right there:

A) when 2 or more girl-friends show interest in you with over-the-top compliments, or.

B) they're encouraging you to drink.

Then you have a potential situation. These girls often work in pairs. One distracts you, whilst the other spikes your drink.

Interesting enough, the casas are THE safest place to be from my experience. Even the most rough looking ones, on a dodgy looking calle, seem safe once inside. And the touts who promote them, although very enthusiastic at times, are never rude or aggressive when I say "No gracias."

[JohnnyWishBone]

I watched several of David's videos in the past and he is based mainly out of Medellin. Definitely a good tip and he almost could not come out to say it the last minute of his video. In short, he hinted that if you guys just want to have sex, there are places like casa that are in fact safer than just bringing random girl from the bar who are eager to follow you back to your hotel or AirBnb.

In summary,

1) There are no hookup culture in Colombia, do not expect to get lucky as any eager girls are always up to something. Always approach with huge caution and suspicion.

2) Look out for any unattended drink which will give the girl opportunity to roofie you. Drink from a bottle that is opened in front of you if possible. Get a wingman to party in bar to look out for one another.

3) Cedula or ID, snap a copy of it from your phone to consciously let them know that you have their info. Hopefully, that could at least deter.

Stay safe and have lots of Safe Sex, jejeje.Points 2 and 3 are a must.

I think with point 1, a lot of it is on personal judgement. Generally speaking, I agree. There are probably red flags like overly eager girls looking to go back to your place within an hour of meeting you in a bar or club. Or the type of group a girl is part of. Also, where you go out has a part to play as well. There are little tell tale signs that should prompt someone to be a bit more cautious. But I wouldn't flat out say that there isn't a hook-up culture; it's less likely on a first meet / date, but much more likely if you meet again.

To see a different view of women in Colombia, watch this from Rami Travel: https://youtu.be/1twsPd70Kj8.

Ultimately, there are good and bad people, just like anywhere else. Just keep your wits about you.

[Igor54]

I watched several of David's videos in the past and he is based mainly out of Medellin. Definitely a good tip and he almost could not come out to say it the last minute of his video. In short, he hinted that if you guys just want to have sex, there are places like casa that are in fact safer than just bringing random girl from the bar who are eager to follow you back to your hotel or AirBnb.

In summary,

1) There are no hookup culture in Colombia, do not expect to get lucky as any eager girls are always up to something. Always approach with huge caution and suspicion.

2) Look out for any unattended drink which will give the girl opportunity to roofie you. Drink from a bottle that is opened in front of you if possible. Get a wingman to party in bar to look out for one another.

3) Cedula or ID, snap a copy of it from your phone to consciously let them know that you have their info. Hopefully, that could at least deter.

Stay safe and have lots of Safe Sex, jejeje.#1 (There are no hookup culture in Colombia) if someone think that 20-25 year Colombiana can't fall asleep because she is dreaming about 50+ year old Gringo dick and badly need sex, you need ask your mom about that.

#2 you can't 100% control your food, drink, etc. Because when you drunk, have erection, etc man's brain does not work. +there are many other ways to get you dragged or rob you. For example show you a gun, or kick you in the balls. Its more simple than you think.

#3 they will take your phone including your snaps.

[Woodman09]

New video 2 parts Drugged Tinder Date.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o_Rlu0gldc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S237wG6pTQ0

[Ggekko2009]

1) Respectfully disagree. There is a very much a hookup culture here. I've experienced it multiple times myself. On dating sites, I have matched, texted and met up with girls for a coffee / beer. If we've clicked, we head back to my hotel and bang. On numerous occasions. Sometimes, the girl just comes straight to the hotel, we chat in the bar for half an hour to build comfort, and then go upstairs to do the deed. No money changes hands. These are regular girls with day jobs. I very rarely drink alcohol with them, and I watch my soft drinks of course, and have all my valuables locked up in various locations in the room.

And on three occasions, these girls have become friends / regulars. I'm seeing one of them tomorrow for our 4th meeting. I like to have a couple of civvie girls in my rotation as well as banging putas in casas.

3) Asking them to give you their cedula so you can take a photo of it will not help built rapport. In fact, it will destroy it. It will kill the mood, and if the girl is a non-WG, then there's a good chance that I can kiss goodbye to any sort of action. And if the girl is a scammer, then having a photo of their cedula on my phone will be of little help if they then scopolamine my ass and steal that phone.

I personally know a guy here who was scopolamined. It happened in a bar, where 2-3 girlfriends were all telling him how handsome he was, and in his own words "they kept making me drink". Two obvious red-flags right there:

A) when 2 or more girl-friends show interest in you with over-the-top compliments, or.

B) they're encouraging you to drink.

Then you have a potential situation. These girls often work in pairs. One distracts you, whilst the other spikes your drink.

Interesting enough, the casas are THE safest place to be from my experience. Even the most rough looking ones, on a dodgy looking calle, seem safe once inside. And the touts who promote them, although very enthusiastic at times, are never rude or aggressive when I say "No gracias."Okay, you have a valid point there. I have only heard more than not that there is simply no hook-up culture there like you would experience in the west.

Also, now that I have learned more about scopolamine, the more weary I am. I have to scrutinize a bit more carefully now with all these SA girls who are so eager to meet me. I actually know of an acquaintance that happened to him in Medellin and it was a nightmare for him. All his valuables were stolen and he was knocked out for more than a day.

I think if the hotel front desk needs registration for all visitors, it will avoid that awkwardness of demanding a cedula. I am not sure if most AirBNB apartments there have the same policy or not, but I would feel more at ease if they do at places where I stay.

By the way, my photos are almost instantaneously backed up to the cloud after they are taken.

[Mtljay]

New video 2 parts Drugged Tinder Date.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o_Rlu0gldc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S237wG6pTQ0Someone posted on the video.

1. Never go to an apartment.

2. Never let them in your apartment.

3. Get their social media accounts.

4. Take a selfie with them and send it to your friends at the beginning of the date.

5. Keep your friends updated throughout the date. (Text in the bathroom).

6. Make a video call and introduce them to your friends during the date. It's fun and if they are normal they'll love to try and talk to your American friends.

7. Don't drink anything you haven't prepared or seen prepared.

8. Double date with a friend or group date.

9. Meet people through friends of friends, social / sporting events, school, church, volunteering, etc.

10. Keep a limited amount of money in your travel account. With the majority of your money stored in the main account.

The biggest thing to learn is how they kept the guy for a few days so they can max out his credit card by moving money through a cash app.

Also here is another good video of how foreigners behave badly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2cGP6BVYQ.

The conclusion is if you are on a short trip, a GFE is not for you. Either you are going to get hurt or you are going to hurt a woman. I am having second thoughts about meeting girls on seeking.com now.

[Igor54]

Okay, you have a valid point there. I have only heard more than not that there is simply no hook-up culture there like you would experience in the west.

Also, now that I have learned more about scopolamine, the more weary I am. I have to scrutinize a bit more carefully now with all these SA girls who are so eager to meet me. I actually know of an acquaintance that happened to him in Medellin and it was a nightmare for him. All his valuables were stolen and he was knocked out for more than a day.

I think if the hotel front desk needs registration for all visitors, it will avoid that awkwardness of demanding a cedula. I am not sure if most AirBNB apartments there have the same policy or not, but I would feel more at ease if they do at places where I stay.

By the way, my photos are almost instantaneously backed up to the cloud after they are taken.You think like children or like a movie fan. The life is not what you see in the movies. If you cross the street on the streetlights you can get the dunk driver, if you are lucky. Or you think that they have to stop because you are the pedestrian and the pedestrian always right. Who cares? If you get overdose, is it important for you if the criminal's pics are saved on the cloud Or if the front desk will resister a girl with ID? She can say any time that you wanted to rape and kill her and that was self-defense, + she doesn't know what kind of drugs you use. She will put some drugs in your pocket and on your hands. What is the next? Drugs will became your problem + a criminal case.

[JohnnyWishBone]

Someone posted on the video.

1. Never go to an apartment.

2. Never let them in your apartment.

3. Get their social media accounts.

4. Take a selfie with them and send it to your friends at the beginning of the date.

5. Keep your friends updated throughout the date. (Text in the bathroom).

6. Make a video call and introduce them to your friends during the date. It's fun and if they are normal they'll love to try and talk to your American friends.

7. Don't drink anything you haven't prepared or seen prepared.

8. Double date with a friend or group date.

9. Meet people through friends of friends, social / sporting events, school, church, volunteering, etc.

10. Keep a limited amount of money in your travel account. With the majority of your money stored in the main account.

The biggest thing to learn is how they kept the guy for a few days so they can max out his credit card by moving money through a cash app.

Also here is another good video of how foreigners behave badly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2cGP6BVYQ.

The conclusion is if you are on a short trip, a GFE is not for you. Either you are going to get hurt or you are going to hurt a woman. I am having second thoughts about meeting girls on seeking.com now.Some good advice listed. I think if you were to get an escort to your apartment, it would be worth asking her upfront if they were happy if you could check that they didn't have any drugs on them beforehand. Even explain about escopolamina, which they probably know about. If the girl resists, then that is enough to swerve and move to the next escort.

Reading the forum and watching videos about it, it has made me much more wary. I am genuinely thinking about planning how to handle my cash and possibly move my cash out of my bank accounts.

I watched the Vice News video on YouTube; the bit at the end with the gangster, a good ending to the story.

[Ggekko2009]

Also here is another good video of how foreigners behave badly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2cGP6BVYQ.

The conclusion is if you are on a short trip, a GFE is not for you. Either you are going to get hurt or you are going to hurt a woman. I am having second thoughts about meeting girls on seeking.com now.Never been to Medellin so I cannot comment on that.

However, I can comment that Cartagena no longer feels the same anymore since the pandemic. In part, all these bad actors from the same "A" grade categorical group, to put it diplomatically, has destroyed all the ambiance and fun for the rest of us hobbyist who understands discretion and hence tend to act sensibly in the local environment. As such, I no longer look to Cartagena anymore as my playground destination.

[Igor54]

Some good advice listed. I think if you were to get an escort to your apartment, it would be worth asking her upfront if they were happy if you could check that they didn't have any drugs on them beforehand. Even explain about escopolamina, which they probably know about. If the girl resists, then that is enough to swerve and move to the next escort.

Reading the forum and watching videos about it, it has made me much more wary. I am genuinely thinking about planning how to handle my cash and possibly move my cash out of my bank accounts.

I watched the Vice News video on YouTube; the bit at the end with the gangster, a good ending to the story.I think your advice is mainly theoretical, try to do it practical.

[TuneFor]

Never been to Medellin so I cannot comment on that.

However, I can comment that Cartagena no longer feels the same anymore since the pandemic. In part, all these bad actors from the same "A" grade categorical group, to put it diplomatically, has destroyed all the ambiance and fun for the rest of us hobbyist who understands discretion and hence tend to act sensibly in the local environment. As such, I no longer look to Cartagena anymore as my playground destination.I was in Cartagena before pandemic and it was ok place but bit too many people pulling you over and hassling.

How is situation now, what did you mean that is not as it was before.

Was considering Cartagena after Bogota ao that's why I am asking.

[Igor54]

Someone posted on the video.

1. Never go to an apartment.

2. Never let them in your apartment.

3. Get their social media accounts.

4. Take a selfie with them and send it to your friends at the beginning of the date.

5. Keep your friends updated throughout the date. (Text in the bathroom).

6. Make a video call and introduce them to your friends during the date. It's fun and if they are normal they'll love to try and talk to your American friends.

7. Don't drink anything you haven't prepared or seen prepared.Is it you first time? Please update your must to do ten points.

11. It's better stay home.

[Mtljay]

Is it you first time? Please update your must to do ten points.

11. It's better stay home.12. Don't end up dead.

[Mtljay]

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopolamine.

One common and particularly dangerous method that criminals use in order to rob a victim is through the use of drugs. The most common in Colombia has been scopolamine. Unofficial estimates put the number of annual scopolamine incidents in Colombia at approximately 50,000. Scopolamine can render a victim unconscious for 24 hours or more. In large doses, it can cause respiratory failure and death. It is most often administered in liquid or powder form in foods and beverages. The majority of these incidents occur in night clubs and bars, and usually men, perceived to be wealthy, are targeted by young, attractive women. It is recommended that, to avoid becoming a victim of scopolamine, a person should never accept food or beverages offered by strangers or new acquaintances, nor leave food or beverages unattended in their presence. Victims of scopolamine or other drugs should seek immediate medical attention.

Between 1998 and 2004,13% of emergency-room admissions for "poisoning with criminal intentions" in a clinic of Bogotá, Colombia, have been attributed to scopolamine, and 44% to benzodiazepines. Most commonly, the person has been poisoned by a robber who gave the victim a scopolamine-laced beverage, in the hope that the victim would become unconscious or unable to effectively resist the robbery.

[Ggekko2009]

12. Don't end up dead.LOL, that is a good one.

[Stinky Squid]

Someone posted on the video.

1. Never go to an apartment.

2. Never let them in your apartment.

3. Get their social media accounts.

4. Take a selfie with them and send it to your friends at the beginning of the date.

5. Keep your friends updated throughout the date. (Text in the bathroom).

6. Make a video call and introduce them to your friends during the date. It's fun and if they are normal they'll love to try and talk to your American friends.

7. Don't drink anything you haven't prepared or seen prepared.

8. Double date with a friend or group date.

9. Meet people through friends of friends, social / sporting events, school, church, volunteering, etc.

10. Keep a limited amount of money in your travel account. With the majority of your money stored in the main account.

The biggest thing to learn is how they kept the guy for a few days so they can max out his credit card by moving money through a cash app.

Also here is another good video of how foreigners behave badly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2cGP6BVYQ.

The conclusion is if you are on a short trip, a GFE is not for you. Either you are going to get hurt or you are going to hurt a woman. I am having second thoughts about meeting girls on seeking.com now.

Jeez, I must say I like Brazil more as I have way less weird encounters. Tonight I contacted a girl from a new ad in mileroticos, and I went spontaneously there, apartment. She promised me a bunch of stuff and when I arrived she appeared somewhat shy, but responsive, I guess she seemed inexperienced, a little scared of me from time to time. Told me it was her first time or so. We did the deed, she didn't want to do much deepthroating which she had promised me to be open to try. But in the end she wanted to get CIF / CIM. I obliged. On the first squirt she freaked out and cleaned herself while I had 2 more to go into the hand. Ah well. After that we chatted. I felt she was very anxious, cold, I invited her to relax the entire time, come under the covers, she didn't want to. Ah well, so where are you from, etc. Told me,

She: "the apartment is my own. My dad gave it to me. ".

Me: "Does he know what you're doing?

She: "No! He is in prison. ".

Me: "What? How long?

She: "(Over 20) years. ".

Me: "What'd he do, kill someone?

She: "Yeah. Me too," she said, "I too killed someone. ".

Me thinking what the fuck. Is that some kind of psychopath who will proceed to slice me up? Of course I kept my composure, smiling to her a bit incredulously. She telling me she's involved with some gang and there was some conflict with a rival gang at some party and she gunned down one who I supposed attacked her. And she can't go out and I should tell nobody where she lives. But who would ask me? And if you don't want to be found, why are you posting pictures of yourself in full view on mileroticos?

Other strange things, she wanted to take a photo of the two of us, with my phone. Didn't ask to get a copy of it. Told me to share it with nobody.

She wanted me to take her away to Europe, all her boyfriends have left her because of the trouble around her. To live here with her I'd need to pay a body guard. Oh boy.

I dunno. Maybe that's all just invented nonsense. But what if she does have connection to the gangs?

I got dressed about 10 min before my time, all the while continuing to converse. She asked me for a tip, and, TBH, I did give her 50 because I didn't want any problems. Haha. As I went back to my hotel, I watched my back to see if anyone would be following me. In the hotel I deleted the photos because all sorts of shit went through my mind, if perhaps that was some sort of trap.

Anyway, I find Colombia way more weird than Brazil. God, what all I have experienced here. I am still on my post-exposure prophylaxis from my little mistake entering the wrong way. Last year I was blackmailed by threat someone would report me on false charges (the threat was obviously not thought through, so I would not be that impressed.) But man, I feel like I do not want to do a lot more in Colombia. This sort of thing has never happened to me in Brazil. Well, if you discount the dispute I had with one girl who got all mad at me and then said she would do black magic on me.

Oh and I had bowed out of two dates which seemed fishy both on the same day. One was a tinder date where I got contacted. The other was an SA girl who insisted I meet her in her barrio of Ferias instead of coming to me to Chapinero. I bowed out of both because that seemed fishy to me.

Now as for your conversation here, I got curious about this "never go to an apartment" -- so much action happens in apartments. How are you like completely avoiding that? I doubt it. Can't believe I'm the only one here ever having gone to a girl with her own local.

PS: her ad said she was looking for a sugar daddy too, that's a bit strange. Given that she was so insecure with me, I was surprised she asked me when we will see each other next time. I must say, if she hadn't scared the shit out of me, I would possibly have agreed, since the second time around they are often more relaxed and open. But I'm trying to stay away from crazy. BTW, she advertized 140 mil for 40 minutes, 200 for 1 hour. 50 extra for oral natural. That's what I took. Plus the tip to hope I won't get any trouble later.

[JackTaggart]

So this trip has not turned out how I thought it would with mongering. I had so many pent up meetings and necessary social business stuff that I have not been able to connect with any of you or do nearly as many things as I have wanted with mongering. I tried SA this trip and have had some interesting results. I will do another post about that as I built on some good previous advice here.

I am staying in the north near Avenida Pepe Sierra and Carrera 45. It was the best place for my work, which is my actual purpose and how I earn my living, so it is what it is. I had a free late afternoon on a Sunday and started looking on photoprepagos. It was too short notice for my SA prospects, I do not feel comfortable going to areas / random apartments that I don't understand yet, and I didn't want to get a different hotel room just for this purpose that day and dealing with women maybe flaking, so I decided to go for what seemed like would be a sure bet at an agency. I came across Miami Vice VIP (https://www.miamivicevip.com/) and started chatting on WhatsApp. So at this point I know that I could spend way less. But from my perspective I was limited on time and because as I said my schedule has been crazy, it was worth it to me to pay the upcharge for this. My Spanish sucks, but google translate worked. My first couple choices were not available, so they finally just sent me a picture of every woman working. After a few more exchanges, it was confirmed. 250,000 cop. Just a FYI that it took about an hour to work this out. I probably could have done it quicker. But there were delays in between on their part too. It is pretty close to Córdoba Local Park in case that is helpful to anyone. I walked along 108 through the park and through what looked like a pretty wealthy neighborhood. It felt like I was in any suburb in the US. It was around 3:00 pm when I started walking and no issues. Walking back no issues as well.

I got to the house and was let in and brought to a bedroom in the front. It had a queen bed, a tv playing Colombian techno and a fridge with free beers and waters. The woman said to help myself and to wait. I did not have any. A couple of minutes later the woman that I had asked for entered and it was an amazing time. Not sure how much ya'll care about the actual details since its 100% personal preference and chemistry. But I had a good connection about a variety of topics and got an awesome GFE experience. The setting was comfortable and we got to talk, bang, and talk. I got her whatsapp and we are setting up time for drinks and more fun. Paid, so its not like I am some Casanova. But I was able to find a girl that was fun and I felt safe with. It was no rush and got all the time that was paid for.

So hope this helps someone that is similar to me.

[Ggekko2009]

I was in Cartagena before pandemic and it was ok place but bit too many people pulling you over and hassling.

How is situation now, what did you mean that is not as it was before.

Was considering Cartagena after Bogota ao that's why I am asking.Here is the recent post from this guy in which I share the same sentiment.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2676345#post2676345

[Igor54]

Is it you first time? Please update your must to do ten points.

11. It's better stay home.The #12 is good. To accomplish that, see #11.

[ColombianBob]

I don't post much but feel responsible to share this with the forum. I lived in Bogota at the turn of the century and have been a frequent traveler to Colombia since and have plenty of experience in the establishments in the north of Bogota. I visited Lido's and a no name place across the street from Atlantis Mall last week. I want to share an experience that I had with the waiters at both places. I usually don't drink much in these places due to the high prices, but I was talked into going with a favorite of mine who wanted to check it out. My primary draw to this place was a friendship with the former manager of Lido's. He was the manager of the club Casanova at 86 and 15 prior to Lido's and would always give me a discount on bottle service. He has since retired and been replace by a former Casanova waiter whom I have known for the last 20 years as well.

So we ordered off the menu, and when the bill came it was stepped on with IVA. Now anyone who has purchased anything in Colombia knows that the IVA is included in the price of the purchase. So I review the bill and see the add on of 19% for IVA plus a 10% propina. The 200 mil bill has another 58 mil add on. WTF? I look at the bill and ask what is this? I get some bullshit explanation and tell the guy that I am not going to pay the IVA and he just smiles as says in English no less, "Ok, I want you to be happy" and I peel off the 200 mil and stick it in his hand and get the hell out of there.

So we get in a overpriced taxi and go to the zona rosa to look for the next rumba because I am very alcahuete with my favorita. It is 2 am and all the regular places are closing and we get hustled by a tout (recognize him from the streets as well) and go into a no named place across the street from Atlantis mall. We have a few drinks and the bill comes with an IVA add on and same fucking story. I ask the waiter what is this? He gives me some bullshit of you know how these places work. I tell him, No I don't know how these places, work, but I know how the IVA works in Colombia and no one adds IVA to the price on a menu in the whole fucking country. I tell him that I am not going to pay it, and since I am a stranger to this place I am getting ready for some type of confrontation with the establishment. The guy doesn't even put up a fight and discounts the IVA and I pay the menu price and get the fuck out of there.

I know the users of this forum don't frequent this types of places much in Bogota and focus more on SF, but I wanted to share this scam of adding the IVA to the bill so you can avoid a Noche con IVA.

[World Jockey]

Pretty much my thoughts when using SA, Tinder. Especially if on a two week or less trip.

While swiping is easier from your couch YMMV. Too many variables to deal with IMHO.

With casas, clubs. You are seeing what you are getting. Usually the only question is how will she perform after you choose her.


I think guys get all hyped up with the responses from seeking women and this happens all the time there. They get excited chatting with women. What I have to wonder is how many of these "women" are actually men trying to scam guys. When I looked at a woman's responses from seeking on SA, 90+% were scammers. The sex with hos is initially better than seeking women. It is the repeats with the best women where the sex is better than with hos.

Here are the seven rules of seeking in Colombia:

1. You will get stood up.

2. You will spend way, way, way more time than just using an escort agency.

3. The sexual service is NOT better.

4. You will spend way, way more money than an escort agency or lower cost venues like casas, Santa Fe, or Centro in Medellin..

[Stinky Squid]

A combined 9 months in Colombia, most of that time in Bogota, I have never once been in the Santa Fe street hooker scene, I am curious though, but I fear low quality, dirty place, and being rushed. Nor do I like to frequent nightclubs and bars, that's just unnecessarily expensive. I like the photoprepagos and mileroticos, and then when I find a nice casa that way, I am filing that to come back.

Now I share an observation. I am always interested in new girls, I like them young and fresh, don't like veterans so much, except such girls who, although young, have been in the business forever and really like it, like my little porn starlet in Brazil, who has become almost a personal friend of mine.

And I had it twice now that on mileroticos there are ads of very fresh girls. Twice now I was one of the first customers ever. Last night my little crazy bandido girl. And a week ago another new one. On photoprepago I think it's a little more expensive for them, not sure, there are many who are settled for a month already. But the ones that just started off, I find on mileroticos.

Again, since there has been talk about "don't ever visit an apartment" I like to ask, am I really the only one who visits the girls in their normal working apartment? Everybody else afraid of that?

[Voodoo Jones]

The conclusion is if you are on a short trip, a GFE is not for you. Either you are going to get hurt or you are going to hurt a woman. I am having second thoughts about meeting girls on seeking.com now.You should 100% take precautions when traveling and always be aware of your surroundings, but I think some of the fears have been overblown lately.

If you're worried about taking girls back to your place, you can meet in public and go to a love motel. I personally wouldn't go to their apartment, not because I'm worried about being robbed, but because their place probably going to be crappy and cold.

As you've said in previous posts, it doesn't hurt to to get a copy of their ID even if you're not bringing them back to your place. And of course, choose a place in a safe neighborhood with good reviews and requires each guest to show ID regardless of how long they're visiting. I also avoided getting drunk on the trip, never left a drink unattended, and always ordered the Ubers myself.

[Ggekko2009]

I know the users of this forum don't frequent this types of places much in Bogota and focus more on SF, but I wanted to share this scam of adding the IVA to the bill so you can avoid a Noche con IVA.Thanks for sharing and this will definitely come in handy.

Quick question of what IVA stands for and how to say In Spanish so that they will know what it means.

I am probably going to need to practice a few sentences in Spanish repeating what you had just said. That IVA should be included in the price per Colombian regulation. I am not going to pay for it. And please kindly remove it from the bill.

[Stinky Squid]

You should 100% take precautions when traveling and always be aware of your surroundings, but I think some of the fears have been overblown lately.

If you're worried about taking girls back to your place, you can meet in public and go to a love motel. I personally wouldn't go to their apartment, not because I'm worried about being robbed, but because their place probably going to be crappy and cold.

As you've said in previous posts, it doesn't hurt to to get a copy of their ID even if you're not bringing them back to your place. And of course, choose a place in a safe neighborhood with good reviews and requires each guest to show ID regardless of how long they're visiting. I also avoided getting drunk on the trip, never left a drink unattended, and always ordered the Ubers myself.On SA I never had a problem. Most girls that I pick are no pros. I meet them over lunch and have a conversation. This filters out those who don't meet without having a payment for just that, which I'm not going to do, pay someone to take her out for lunch. All girls I had met (over a dozen) were just normal girls, each having their financial issues, of course lots of flakes or no-goes, none of them bad people or would put me into any danger. In one case I had one who didn't want to go for lunch and wanted to meet in hotel and do the deed right away, since she didn't want to come to the hotel I chose, I cancelled that meeting. Sad, because her photos really spoke to me on a deeper level. But that's life. I think the key about avoiding danger is for you to be in charge of selecting time and place, meet in public places first, etc.

[Igor54]

Please make a comment.

I've opened a free SA account. I 've never used SA to see girls. Please comment my research and my steps.

1. I have a free account.

2. I did a search on 20 March, 2022. My filters are: 18 year old To 30 year old, profiles with pictures, Bogota, Colombia.

3. I see 188 girl's profiles, and I sorted my search by show "Recently active" first.

4. I checked the first page = 30 profiles, and #18 profile from the top of the list shows that #18 girl on the list was "Last Active" on Mar 2, 2022. That was 20 days ago.

5. My conclusion is: SA in Bogota is very slow, next to the waste of time and money, considering that most of "Last Active" girls on SA-Bogota just registered their accounts.

Please share your opinion and say that I am wrong.

Thanks.

[Cons68]

Impuesto Valor Añadido, that is VAT.


Thanks for sharing and this will definitely come in handy.

Quick question of what IVA stands for and how to say In Spanish so that they will know what it means.

I am probably going to need to practice a few sentences in Spanish repeating what you had just said. That IVA should be included in the price per Colombian regulation. I am not going to pay for it. And please kindly remove it from the bill.

[Voodoo Jones]

Please make a comment.

I've opened a free SA account. I 've never used SA to see girls. Please comment my research and my steps.

1. I have a free account.

2. I did a search on 20 March, 2022. My filters are: 18 year old To 30 year old, profiles with pictures, Bogota, Colombia.

3. I see 188 girl's profiles, and I sorted my search by show "Recently active" first.

4. I checked the first page = 30 profiles, and #18 profile from the top of the list shows that #18 girl on the list was "Last Active" on Mar 2, 2022. That was 20 days ago.

5. My conclusion is: SA in Bogota is very slow, next to the waste of time and money, considering that most of "Last Active" girls on SA-Bogota just registered their accounts..Something is definitely wrong. Bogota has 10,000+ results with age filters only. It surprisingly has more profiles than some more popular cities in South America.

Get rid of the other filters except age and see if that works. I usually put 0-10 miles as the distance because Bogota is a large city.

If that doesn't work, get rid of all filters and see everyone in "Bogota, Bogota, Colombia." You should see 10,000+.

[Elvis 2008]

Please make a comment.

I've opened a free SA account. I 've never used SA to see girls. Please comment my research and my steps.

1. I have a free account.

2. I did a search on 20 March, 2022. My filters are: 18 year old To 30 year old, profiles with pictures, Bogota, Colombia.

3. I see 188 girl's profiles, and I sorted my search by show "Recently active" first.

4. I checked the first page = 30 profiles, and #18 profile from the top of the list shows that #18 girl on the list was "Last Active" on Mar 2, 2022. That was 20 days ago.

5. My conclusion is: SA in Bogota is very slow, next to the waste of time and money, considering that most of "Last Active" girls on SA-Bogota just registered their accounts..I think you have limited your distance range. I did the exact same filters but moved the range to within 50 miles of Bogota and got 10,000+ profiles. I filtered for slim and athletic and was down to 5059 profiles.

[Master Monger]

Don't bother. Skip It forever.

Unless you like:

Mediocre unromantic sex.

Sex with a condom.

Flawed bodies.

Rudeness.

You might get lucky a few times, as I have in 8 months, but overall it is a negative experience.

[Thunder 01]

You should 100% take precautions when traveling and always be aware of your surroundings, but I think some of the fears have been overblown lately.

If you're worried about taking girls back to your place, you can meet in public and go to a love motel. I personally wouldn't go to their apartment, not because I'm worried about being robbed, but because their place probably going to be crappy and cold.

As you've said in previous posts, it doesn't hurt to to get a copy of their ID even if you're not bringing them back to your place. And of course, choose a place in a safe neighborhood with good reviews and requires each guest to show ID regardless of how long they're visiting. I also avoided getting drunk on the trip, never left a drink unattended, and always ordered the Ubers myself.Exactly! Great comment. Some guys over on another thread here in Medellin going on that Colombia is the most dangerous place in the world! Idiots, it is very safe. Just don't be an idiot or dumbass and you will be fine! Always had fun in Bogota.

[Mtljay]

What country / city has the best experience in your view? I have done my part of mongering during the past 30 years but not Bogota yet.


Don't bother. Skip It forever.

Unless you like:

Mediocre unromantic sex.

Sex with a condom.

Flawed bodies.

Rudeness.

You might get lucky a few times, as I have in 8 months, but overall it is a negative experience.

[ArmnHammer69]

Last night Sunday in Santa Fe around 10 pm they had police come and shutdown all the clubs for not checking vaccination records to enter. First time this trip it was asked for in Bogotá except at restaurant / bars. By default of lack of customers paisas was the only club to stay open as they were lucky and compliant. Showed that maybe 30 men and 20 women were actually vaccinated. Prior to Fiebre, Atonis had maybe 15- 20 girls tops. 10 in Venus and 10 in paisas. One cute tiny blonde Vennie at the street corner entering red light area first street. Friday and Saturday nights were good all though this trip I definitely found the very best girls were out on Friday more than saturdays in Santa Fe.

Banged probably 18 girls in 6 days total in Bogotá.

Found a really tall blonde Venezuelan Alejandra in paisas and Fiebre on Friday nights great service this girl could perfectly deep throat me whole 7" smoothly. Natural body with a nice butt and decent boobs.

Found a really tall light black skinned girl in Atonis this weekend great natural butt and she could deep throat as well. She had a gigantic Afro of blond curly hair dancing around like predator LOL.

Relived memories with 5 hotties I had seen before in Fiebre and had good service.

Disappointed though as my favorite Colombian girl Sara had apparently semi retired and moved to Cartagena.

Also to note it seems like there is decline in the number and quality of Venezuelan girls in Santa Fe. My all time favorite Itali from Fiebre has apparently moved back to Venezuela with a few of her friends. She had the tiniest body and biggest soft plump Ass. She had just got a boob job at Christmas but I missed out on her this trip.

Massage parlours.

Went to Loutron Saturday at 5 pm only 5 girls I would suggest going a little later say 6:30 as in some reviews. Sessions with a cute little brunette in Victoria secret with a tiny waist and fake booty. Cost was 540 pesos with drinks.

Went to mezzanine twice on Saturday they had one really cute girl around 3:30 pm.

In review this is my third time here in 8 months and I think the best girls are leaving. It peaked for me in Bogotá 2 years ago with all the Venezuela chica boom arriving. Think they are starting to find better places to operate. Even some la Isla favorites have started working in the Dominican Republic instead.

Think I will hit up Brazil next as Covid restrictions ease. Bought a bunch of reals last year. For a great exchange rate. 35 percent off what I used to pay LOL.