Bogota Reports

[PunterMonger]

What country / city has the best experience in your view? I have done my part of mongering during the past 30 years but not Bogota yet.I agree 100%. The "most beautiful woman in the world" apparently have moved to other parts of the world. Found much better quality Colombianas in NYC, panama, Aruba, Spain. I had a paisa mistress in USA and she was loving, tender and the sex was incredible. With the pros in Colombia, might as well jerk off. Extras for basic things like BBBJ and CIM (hahaha. Food luck on that one). Waste of time and money.

[PunterMonger]

Going to tey and post into several categories as this seems to time out.

1) my monger profile (I think its important to know; are you old, young, white, black.

2) my view on quality in Bogota and Medellin.

3) my thoughts of gringos (both black and white) in Colombian.

4) Medellin vs Bogota (don't waste your time in either.

5) my experiences in Bogota (don't waste your time).

6) where to stay and transportation.

[PunterMonger]

After two beers. Walked around a 4 block radius. First of all, there are no "beautiful" women here (Penelope Cruz, Selma Hayek). A couple of fair skinned girls looked ok to fuck. None would be let into higher end hotels.

Medellin vs Bogota racial makeup. I don't remember seen any black local people in Medellin; you will find a lot more blacks and mixed mulatos in Santa Fe. For me an 6-8 is my wife or my paisa ex-mistress in USA. Stupid me thought I would find this type all over the place in Medellin or Bogota. Reality check, beauty is not common. There is no magic potion in the water that makes the average Colombian woman more beautiful than the rest of the world. Most posters are really taking about our economic advantage, exploitation & access to younger and more attractive women (relatively) than what they can ever hope to attract in the USA.

I know is preaching but really wanted to give a different perspective for late 40's higher income mongers that are not necessarily looking to fuck for the cheapest or racking up 3-4 girls per day. I tried loutron on Saturday. No good options walked out of the place. Picked up a shy, cute, petite Venezuelan in Copacabana; took her back to JW Marriott; overpaid 1 mil copa (she wanted 1.5 for 5 hrs). Only did it because I got hammered at the club and wasn't making right decisions.

[PunterMonger]

I guess my original post was too controversial and was not Approved by moderator. Bottom line is that Santa Fe is probably the most "dangerous" feeling place I have been to. I was on guard as soon as the uber dropped me off at Troja club. Haha; even the uber driver was a little concerned. Most likely nothing will happen; but if you would ever be a victim if a crime it most likely will happen here.

5.36 and in trajan club now? Beer goggles on; 1-2 girls seem ok. Place seems safe; except foe the obvious group of guys that would probably rob you outside! Haha, profiling keeps you alive. Young local guys, money is no object; acting like they own the place.

[Fudi Maar]

With the pros in Colombia, might as well jerk off. Extras for basic things like BBBJ and CIM (hahaha. Food luck on that one). Waste of time and money.Bro,

With the greatest of respect, you seem to have decided that Bogota is truly awful for mongering and are seeing everything through that filter of rejection.

BBBJ and CIM? I got that on my very first punt at Tantra Spa. For 80 K, and the girl had a lovely attitude too.

Have a read of some of the reports I've written recently regarding numerous casas. Admittedly, you won't find any 8's or 9's there, but I've had largely wonderful experiences for very low costs.

And I've had great "un ratos" for 30 K.

And you mentioning that you payed 1.0 million and are staying at the JW Marriott may be a humble brag, but money doesn't always buy better experiences. And frankly, paying a girl for 5 hours before you've tried her a short time to test her attitude / performance is a recipe for disappointment. You could have literally banged 10 girls in numerous casas for 300 K and then on another day repeat for longer times with your favourites or get their WhatsApp's and they would have come to your hotel, and given you GFE for 100 K. For 1.0 million, you could have banged to the point where your dick would have begged you for some rest.

[TuneFor]

After two beers. Walked around a 4 block radius. First of all, there are no "beautiful" women here (Penelope Cruz, Selma Hayek). A couple of fair skinned girls looked ok to fuck. None would be let into higher end hotels.

Medellin vs Bogota racial makeup. I don't remember seen any black local people in Medellin; you will find a lot more blacks and mixed mulatos in Santa Fe. For me an 6-8 is my wife or my paisa ex-mistress in USA. Stupid me thought I would find this type all over the place in Medellin or Bogota. Reality check, beauty is not common. There is no magic potion in the water that makes the average Colombian woman more beautiful than the rest of the world. Most posters are really taking about our economic advantage, exploitation & access to younger and more attractive women (relatively) than what they can ever hope to attract in the USA.

I know is preaching but really wanted to give a different perspective for late 40's higher income mongers that are not necessarily looking to fuck for the cheapest or racking up 3-4 girls per day. I tried loutron on Saturday. No good options walked out of the place. Picked up a shy, cute, petite Venezuelan in Copacabana; took her back to JW Marriott; overpaid 1 mil copa (she wanted 1.5 for 5 hrs). Only did it because I got hammered at the club and wasn't making right decisions.I quite agree on this one.

Average Colombian girl is way bellow European girls look and it is big jungle over there to find good value because good ones knows how rear they are.

Giving it another try because I am already in Carribean area due to work so lets hope this time I can use experience from last visit.

If you are bit drunk or easy on trigger they will rip you of so easily.

Best fuck I had last time was actually were 2 cheapest ones.

Santa Fe might be good if you speak Spanish and going there with friend or two but alone and with limited Spanish with Gringo look you are always on your toes and looking over your shoulder.

Knowing spanish is key in S. America and without it is quite difficult.

[Elvis 2008]

After two beers. Walked around a 4 block radius. First of all, there are no "beautiful" women here (Penelope Cruz, Selma Hayek). A couple of fair skinned girls looked ok to fuck. None would be let into higher end hotels.In 20 trips to Santa Fe, I saw 2 gals that IMO were 9's. Another monger who went there daily said he never saw higher than an 8.


For me an 6-8 is my wife or my paisa ex-mistress in USA. Stupid me thought I would find this type all over the place in Medellin or Bogota. Reality check, beauty is not common. There is no magic potion in the water that makes the average Colombian woman more beautiful than the rest of the world.Nah, just go to neighboring Peru or Bolivia and you will change your mind. There is no one there that looks as good as in Colombia. I do think people think there are beauties everywhere but the reality is Colombia is good for cheap and quantity not quality. The issue with Colombia versus say Sao Paulo is the 10's are all in one place in SP. Thing is even the higher end clubs are not that much better than the ones in SF.

I have not used the escort agencies nor Twitter in Bogota but I would think the beauty / hit rate would be higher there than Santa Fe. Thing is it is easy to alter the photos but when you see the videos on Twitter, that is a lot harder to fake IMO. To start on Twitter, I would go to #PrepagosBogota.

I used seeking / SA and selected for beauty. I had six or so women who blew away anything in Santa Fe and were much classier to boot. If you can stay at JW, I would get on seeking, pay the $100, and select out the hottest women. You should not have a problem bringing these women in your hotel. You will get a high response rate. Just make sure you have a backup plan as the girls from seeking cancel all the time. I do not buy that you need great Spanish to communicate. I got good with google translate and was able to communicate well. Hope this helps. Good luck.

[MongerHunger]

overpaid 1 mil copa (she wanted 1.5 for 5 hrs). Only did it because.This is the funniest thing that I have read all year. LOL.

[Zeos1]

I guess my original post was too controversial and was not Approved by moderator. Bottom line is that Santa Fe is probably the most "dangerous" feeling place I have been to. I was on guard as soon as the uber dropped me off at Troja club. Haha; even the uber driver was a little concerned. Most likely nothing will happen; but if you would ever be a victim if a crime it most likely will happen here.

5.36 and in trajan club now? Beer goggles on; 1-2 girls seem ok. Place seems safe; except foe the obvious group of guys that would probably rob you outside! Haha, profiling keeps you alive. Young local guys, money is no object; acting like they own the place.What seems "dangerous" is not always the most dangerous. I was walking with a friend, actually we were walking down toward the downtown area from Monserrate, and on the main road a couple of police stopped us. They said that road, specifically the next couple of hundred meters, was extremely dangerous. They actually stayed with us until a cab came by that we were able to get into. The cabby was nervous about stopping, but it was a busy road and he got us back downtown.

I did see a few suspicious looking loitering people on the other side of the street just ahead of where the police stopped to help us. I didn't think much of it. But the police said that they would or could have done us harm had we walked by. Anyway. My point is that sometimes what doesn't look that dangerous may be. The converse also applies.

[JackTaggart]

Hey,

My Airbnb has not proved girl friendly. I tried two different hotels in my area and they were even worse. Info listed below for searching purposes, but can anyone help me out? I am ideally not looking for anything super expensive. I was going to give Hotel Lancaster House but it is frequently booked. I don't mind a little uber ride but would prefer to stay sort of in this area.

Comfort 80 Casttella Hotel calle 95 #45 a35- locked front door and a single employee that has to let you in. Took forever to answer the door. It was also mostly empty. I think its more used for the medical place near by.

Apart ascites Bellmore 45 a25 CL 108. - again, locked front door that they have to let you in. Took a while to answer door.

[Fudi Maar]

There seems to have been a few posts about how bad the sex is here, or the quality of the girls, so I'd like to add my two-pence worth.

I've punted in numerous countries and dated civvies in even more, and my take is that if someone likes the European look (blonde hair, blue eyes, slim figures) then they will be disappointed with Bogota. The girls here have black hair, wide hips, and big asses. Frankly, I love that look, and so for me, the casas here are a very nice playground.

Another difference I've found is that the girls tend to be sweet (I know, that sounds weird right), tender and more GFE than their equivalents in Europe who tend to me more hardened, and mechanical. Out of the 20+ girls I've banged here, only 1 was a total let-down, and another 1 was a mediocre experience. On the whole, they've had good attitudes and willing to please.

My formula in Bogota was to try an un rato with the girls for 30 K, and if we clicked, then the next time, I'd go for a longer time period. I met some lovely girls, who were very willing and enthusiastic in the room.

[Mtljay]

What seems "dangerous" is not always the most dangerous. I was walking with a friend, actually we were walking down toward the downtown area from Monserrate, and on the main road a couple of police stopped us. They said that road, specifically the next couple of hundred meters, was extremely dangerous. They actually stayed with us until a cab came by that we were able to get into. The cabby was nervous about stopping, but it was a busy road and he got us back downtown.
I thought Monserrate suppose to be the most tourist spot in Bogota.

How is parque 93 areas for walking around in the night (not late night).

[Mr Enternational]

This is the funniest thing that I have read all year. LOL.Yeah it was. No matter how drunk I get there is no way I would give a chick 1 million pesos to fuck. If anything, drunkness would make me cuss a broad out for even fixing her mouth to ask for that much. If she had only known the sky was the limit because the guy was drunk. Like the song says, blame it on the alcohol.

[Mr Enternational]

There seems to have been a few posts about how bad the sex is here, or the quality of the girls, so I'd like to add my two-pence worth.

I've punted in numerous countries and dated civvies in even more, and my take is that if someone likes the European look (blonde hair, blue eyes, slim figures) then they will be disappointed with Bogota.What is up with this going to a place expecting to fuck chicks that look like chicks in another place? All that says is that people did not do basic homework.
Because you can get on a local hooker site like mileroticos for 2 seconds or even google people location and see images of how the local population looks. Who has expectations of going to Hawaii to see Africans?

Glad I don't have a problem going somewhere and not being able to pick from what is available to fuck, instead of being disappointed that they don't look like chicks somewhere else. This is too easy to avoid in the internet era.

[MongerHunger]

Yeah it was. No matter how drunk I get there is no way I would give a chick 1 million pesos to fuck. If anything, drunkness would make me cuss a broad out for even fixing her mouth to ask for that much. If she had only known the sky was the limit because the guy was drunk. Like the song says, blame it on the alcohol.I know that's right. No wonder these girls target foreigners and take advantage of them. They wouldn't dare ask a local Colombian for that kind of money. They know exactly who to go after.

[LatinaLover#1]

I thought Monserrate suppose to be the most tourist spot in Bogota.

How is parque 93 areas for walking around in the night (not late night).Is somewhat safe but you are talking the top of the mountain it's safe, If your speaking of La Candelaria, the tourist area below the mountain, then now it's not safe, especially at night.

I'm very familiar with Parque 93 area. My hotel is located 200 meters from the center of the park. I've been staying in the area for many years and have never had a problem. A few years ago I would not think twice of walking back to the hotel at any time day or night. BUT now I would be wary at night. I love the area but even Parque 93 has had robbers burst into the restaurants and rob the restaurant and dinners. However I would say this is one of the safest, zone 6 to stay in Bogota.

[Zeos1]

I thought Monserrate suppose to be the most tourist spot in Bogota.

How is parque 93 areas for walking around in the night (not late night).Monserrate is ok. Just don't walk back down into the city from there. Lots of cabs and buses I think too.

[Mtljay]

My current plan is to stay at the Four Point Sheraton, reading reports here the hotel is guest friendly. Looking at the map Loutron is within walking distance from the hotel, anything else that is adult-related around that area that is a quick walk?


I'm very familiar with Parque 93 area. My hotel is located 200 meters from the center of the park. I've been staying in the area for many years and have never had a problem. A few years ago I would not think twice of walking back to the hotel at any time day or night. BUT now I would be wary at night. I love the area but even Parque 93 has had robbers burst into the restaurants and rob the restaurant and dinners. However I would say this is one of the safest, zone 6 to stay in Bogota.

[DonValle]

I went to a casa on Calle 57 today, Chapinero, and banged 4 chicas, each "un rato" for a 35 K, as a trial run.Impressive. Out of curiosity, are you using a drug to do that bang 4 girls in one visit? Or are some of you naturally that horny? Or maybe this is some tantric sex thing and you aren't jizzing. I think, sadly for me, I'm on the other end of the spectrum. If I have sex it might be 2-3 days before I want to do it again. Though some of that could be I'm too nervous and stressed in some of these places. That probably means I should try to get a girlfriend and not hookers. Haha.

[Voodoo Jones]

I thought Monserrate suppose to be the most tourist spot in Bogota.

How is parque 93 areas for walking around in the night (not late night).I stayed 3 blocks from Parque 93 and felt safe walking around all hours of the night. I would definitely recommend it this is your first time in the city. The latest the bars close is 1 AM (and most earlier than that).

I stayed at apartments called Area 97. You can find them on Airbnb or just Google it for their website. It's very guest friendly and free to bring women back. I had women stay until 3 AM without any issues.

[Fudi Maar]

What is up with this going to a place expecting to fuck chicks that look like chicks in another place? All that says is that people did not do basic homework.
Because you can get on a local hooker site like mileroticos for 2 seconds or even google people location and see images of how the local population looks. Who has expectations of going to Hawaii to see Africans?
Spot on Mr E. Exactly my sentiments. If I wanted to buy a burger I'd go to a fast food place, if I wanted a pizza, I'd go to a pizzarea. I wouldn't go to McDonalds and complain that they don't do pizzas.

The reason why I am in Colombia is because I totally love the Colombian female body shape. No other girls have this. And I love their sweet, tender nature. Yes, even the putas in the casas have this certain loveliness and warmth that I haven't experienced in any other place. I love the Rolas in Bogota, and even just taking a trip on the Transmilenio is a good sexual experience for me, with the sight of all those lovely babes coming back from work / uni.

[Hotrod10]

I have made this repore before.

In Vancouver some time ago I picked up a beautiful hooker. Blond, small and very cute. We talk terms, make a deal and head to my room. I had a car and was staying at a motel on the outskirts of Vancouver. I bought a six pack of beer earlier. We set down to enjoy a beer and get acquainted. I make a head call. 15 20 minutes later and we are really enjoying each other laughing and joking. We are setting in the living room in lounge chairs with a small table. Out of nowhere my cute little blond jumps up and says you sob you switched the beers. Ok so what's the big deal. Were on the second floor and it had a back entrance with steps to the parking lot. Out the door she goes, still screaming that I switched the beers. I stood there watching that cute little butt bouncing off the side rails of the stairs and she almost made it to the bottom but had a bad fall at the bottom landing, and a car pulled up then a rather large guy jumps out grabs her and stuffs her in the back door. OK so I finally put 2+2 together and I guess I lucked out.

[JackTaggart]

Spot on Mr E. Exactly my sentiments. If I wanted to buy a burger I'd go to a fast food place, if I wanted a pizza, I'd go to a pizzarea. I wouldn't go to McDonalds and complain that they don't do pizzas.

The reason why I am in Colombia is because I totally love the Colombian female body shape. No other girls have this. And I love their sweet, tender nature. Yes, even the putas in the casas have this certain loveliness and warmth that I haven't experienced in any other place. I love the Rolas in Bogota, and even just taking a trip on the Transmilenio is a good sexual experience for me, with the sight of all those lovely babes coming back from work / uni.I agree. As always, personal preference is a thing. I was at a we work a few years ago in Bogota waiting in the lobby for 45 minutes around lunch time. My jaw dropped at about 80% of the professional women making their way through. I love Colombian women.

[Mtljay]

This is an old story that happened in Montiral.

I had my first very bad experience using SB. They said they only see guys together, for safety reasons. That they have been best friends forever. The girl I interacted with online seemed very nice, well-spoken. I agreed to meet them at the hotel room. They were cute! Mid-twenties. We chatted for a while, everything seems good but chit-chat was dragging on a bit. As always, I had left the money out on the dresser. I was too naive and trusting After a bit they asked if I smoked, I said no. They said they were going to go for a quick smoke. They left a andécessaire on the dresser (they had already taken the money). Then they left and never came back. Blocked my number and profile, obviously.


I have made this repore before.

In Vancouver some time ago I picked up a beautiful hooker. Blond, small and very cute. We talk terms, make a deal and head to my room. I had a car and was staying at a motel on the outskirts of Vancouver. I bought a six pack of beer earlier. We set down to enjoy a beer and get acquainted. I make a head call. 15 20 minutes later and we are really enjoying each other laughing and joking. We are setting in the living room in lounge chairs with a small table. Out of nowhere my cute little blond jumps up and says you sob you switched the beers. Ok so what's the big deal. Were on the second floor and it had a back entrance with steps to the parking lot. Out the door she goes, still screaming that I switched the beers. I stood there watching that cute little butt bouncing off the side rails of the stairs and she almost made it to the bottom but had a bad fall at the bottom landing, and a car pulled up then a rather large guy jumps out grabs her and stuffs her in the back door. OK so I finally put 2+2 together and I guess I lucked out.

[DiegoSan4]

Here is the correct link for the map.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1CX1vHGuVsmU_8yLjh7e8kCQQ7F_uTduz&ll=4.652436578191971%2C-74.06181521424033&z=16I can verify that Mtjay's map is a good one. Last Friday around 2 PM, I started out at Rosquillas 64. A few girls available but none really caught my eye. The Donde Diego bar next door had a couple forgettable ones. Walking up carrera 15 past calle 66, there were shaggers out front of Bar Palma Real and Rosquillas 66 which were each fighting very hard for me to go in to their bar but not the other. Funny! Rosquillas 66 had 5 or 6 with a couple that were tempting. But I wanted to see more casas before coming back to the best.

A shagger took me to the Tokio bar near calle 65 a. Disappointing. Then I went back up Carrera 15 and checked out La Bonita and Sirenitas near Calle 67. Sirenitas was a bit disappointing but I can confirm previous posts that La Bonita is the best of the lot. There were maybe a total of 10-15 girls in two separate rooms not mingling with the guys in the bar area but occasionally they would come out for a presentation.

I'm probably pickier than most but perhaps 3 to 4 of these were good enough for my taste and I picked one. A 25 year old cute Venezuelan. Pricing seemed about the same at all clubs. 35 k per half hour. It was 20 k more for besos and 20 k more for oral natural. So total of 75 k or about $20 USA I had a pretty good session and was on my way.

Next I walked to Tantras on Calle 72 of the map. It was closed and a guy handed me a flyer to Bar 69 on carrera 13 if I remember correctly. It wasn't clear if this was a new location for Tantras or he was just directing me to a different bar. I never went to Bar 69 though.

I didn't check out any other bars in the area like on Calle 68 and this was my total Bogota tour as I was just on a layover. This area of Chapinero is a real winner in my mind for convenience of checking out multiple locations quickly. I'm sure it's a fast moving target and if I would have come an hour earlier or hour later I may have had a different experience.

Thanks to Mtjay and Fudi Maar and others who contributed which helped me out greatly.

[JackTaggart]

I just wanted to share my tips for photoprepagos.com and similar sites. I am sure some of these things are either obvious or ymwv, but figured it was worth sharing my experience.

Since I was having trouble with hotels where I was staying, I figured I would try my shot at either an independent that could host or to find some casas near by or spas on the websites. I ran out of time to actually visit any since I was meeting up with two different SA girls and I prioritized that, but I feel as though I have a good strategy next time to cut down on wasted time. It seems like some of you have quick, but I am self limiting the areas I am going to so far and my time in between work things limited my ability to go far.

1) Probably the number one thing is that I made the assumption that it was like the sites in the US where generally there are no appointments and you can be at a girls place or hotel in under 30 minutes after messaging when she has posted in the last hour or two. In many cases I got responses hours or sometimes the next day saying they were not working until X day and times. This was even for ones that posted like 5 minutes in the past. I wasted a lot of time committed to the idea of making it happen within a couple hour span until I figured this out. I feel as though if I had just turboed through all the girls I was interested a day or two in advance with my standard intro and questions, that it would have been far easier to make something happen.

I realize that some could just be busy, but most of the quick responses from posts in the last 5 to 30 minutes would chat and and answer my questions, but then when I tried to arrange for right away or later that day they would say that they were not working.

2) The locations are very general and sometimes off by quite a bit. This should have been obvious, but just saying. No big deal, but it wasted time in many cases since I have to Google translate things.

3) I was initially not messaging girls that specifically stated oral with a condom and did not mention oral natural as an upcharge. When I started asking, it was available 100% of the time for a 50 k upcharge.

4) Sundays seem like a bad day to coordinate stuff.

[Mtljay]

If you are into Escorts (Either Agency or Independent) get a paid membership on https://foroprepagoscolombia.com/ . It's basically the Yelp of Bogota escorts. The site is in Spanish but google chrome does a good job of automatically translating content plus the mongers on that site are very helpful, post a message that starts with "Hay I am gringo. " and then post it your message in English and Spanish (Use google translate).


I just wanted to share my tips for photoprepagos.com and similar sites. I am sure some of these things are either obvious or ymwv, but figured it was worth sharing my experience.

Since I was having trouble with hotels where I was staying, I figured I would try my shot at either an independent that could host or to find some casas near by or spas on the websites. I ran out of time to actually visit any since I was meeting up with two different SA girls and I prioritized that, but I feel as though I have a good strategy next time to cut down on wasted time. It seems like some of you have quick, but I am self limiting the areas I am going to so far and my time in between work things limited my ability to go far.

1) Probably the number one thing is that I made the assumption that it was like the sites in the US where generally there are no appointments and you can be at a girls place or hotel in under 30 minutes after messaging when she has posted in the last hour or two. In many cases I got responses hours or sometimes the next day saying they were not working until X day and times. This was even for ones that posted like 5 minutes in the past. I wasted a lot of time committed to the idea of making it happen within a couple hour span until I figured this out. I feel as though if I had just turboed through all the girls I was interested a day or two in advance with my standard intro and questions, that it would have been far easier to make something happen.

I realize that some could just be busy, but most of the quick responses from posts in the last 5 to 30 minutes would chat and and answer my questions, but then when I tried to arrange for right away or later that day they would say that they were not working.

2) The locations are very general and sometimes off by quite a bit. This should have been obvious, but just saying. No big deal, but it wasted time in many cases since I have to Google translate things.

3) I was initially not messaging girls that specifically stated oral with a condom and did not mention oral natural as an upcharge. When I started asking, it was available 100% of the time for a 50 k upcharge.

4) Sundays seem like a bad day to coordinate stuff.

[Mr Enternational]

1) Probably the number one thing is that I made the assumption that it was like the sites in the US where generally there are no appointments and you can be at a girls place or hotel in under 30 minutes after messaging when she has posted in the last hour or two. In many cases I got responses hours or sometimes the next day saying they were not working until X day and times. This was even for ones that posted like 5 minutes in the past. I wasted a lot of time committed to the idea of making it happen within a couple hour span until I figured this out. I feel as though if I had just turboed through all the girls I was interested a day or two in advance with my standard intro and questions,You have to understand that if you plan to make some type of appointment then you also take a chance on the chick not showing up or going dark. You were on the right track though IMHO.

What I do is I load all the chicks into my phone at the same time. I list them as xx name BOG (or other location). "xx Julie 23 BOG. I then go to my secondary whatsapp and add them to that by using the easy search xx BOG so they will all pop up. Go to whatapp and resfresh the list. Then search xx BOG in whatsapp and all the names pop up. Then send a simple message saying Hola. Estas disponible? (Hello,. Are you available) to as many as you want. Then they answer with their script.

This message casts a wide net so you can not get your heart set on any particular one at the moment, but you weed out the ones that do not respond fast enough. Here is an example of how it works here in Peru. You can see how one chick answered 10 minutes later and another answered 6 hours later. And there are others that answer days or even weeks later. That is just how hoes operate and is part of the reason they can't do anything else except sell ass. If you are expecting them to be reliable or punctual then you need to lower your expectations.

[LatinaLover#1]

In Central and South America, especially in Colombia. Punctuality is assumed in the States but not so much in Latin America. Back when I did a lot of mongering I would always double and triple book an hour apart from each girl. If I planned on meeting one woman for the night. Nothing messes up a short trip especially, when you get a no show and your left with you dick in your hand. And have to start all over again trying to find a girl available. If I didn't hear back from my date an hour after our meet time, I would text her saying something came up and I can't meet and I'd go to my next girl and firm it up with her to meet. Brazil and Colombia have been to most common for being late or even no show and be be surprised if when you finally speak to them they act as if nothing happened. Jaja As my girl has told me many many times, when running late, over the last few years in Colombia " Baby it's common in my country" It's in the culture, Professors and students continuously show up late class, showing up late for dentist appointments etc etc. What we view, in the states as being rude and inconsiderate by being late is not the case in Colombia. Good luck.

[Mr Enternational]

As my girl has told me many many times, when running late, over the last few years in Colombia " Baby it's common in my country" It's in the culture, Professors and students continuously show up late class, showing up late for dentist appointments etc etc. What we view, in the states as being rude and inconsiderate by being late is not the case in Colombia.What did she say about showing up to work late or the boss showing up with their paycheck late?

[Woodman09]

Last night Sunday in Santa Fe around 10 pm they had police come and shutdown all the clubs for not checking vaccination records to enter. First time this trip it was asked for in Bogot except at restaurant / bars. By default of lack of customers paisas was the only club to stay open as they were lucky and compliant. Showed that maybe 30 men and 20 women were actually vaccinated. Prior to Fiebre, Atonis had maybe 15- 20 girls tops. 10 in Venus and 10 in paisas. One cute tiny blonde Vennie at the street corner entering red light area first street. Friday and Saturday nights were good all though this trip I definitely found the very best girls were out on Friday more than saturdays in Santa Fe.I went on Thursday night, Nice SG selection and the clubs were busy-- I talked to my bouncer friend at Venus and he said the police did their shake down and they're good for now-.

Lotsa police everywhere I saw some on bikes which I have never seen in SF before.

I was in Troya, Atonis and Venus was not carded at all, great action in Atonis and Venus. There were alot of Hotties. I have steady in Venus and she was busy doing lapdances and I snuck upstairs with another really hot girl who I had my eye on (60 mil). Someone snitched on me and she sent me a text later saying she saw me but she would forgive me if I came back and smashed her, so I did LOL-- seemed like she had not had sex that night -- but who knows?

TODAY this early afternoon I got texted by this other cute spinner SG I have been smashing. We were supposed to meet and I was on time and she was not there. I had told here that she needed to be there and ready but she obviously got busy. Which I don't like to think about so I texted her that she missed out and nos vemos otra dia. I went walking around and banged another hot Venezuelan spinner.

There was a great selection of SGs in both areas-- Saturday afternoon is great for SGs.

I would say that SF is still good at certain times.

[World Jockey]

overpaid 1 mil copa (she wanted 1.5 for 5 hrs). Only did it because I got hammered at the club and wasn't making right decisions.I had to look twice to make sure I wasn't in the UAE forum.

[World Jockey]

My formula in Bogota was to try an un rato with the girls for 30 K, and if we clicked, then the next time, I'd go for a longer time period. I met some lovely girls, who were very willing and enthusiastic in the room.Or use that as an audition. If I click with a casa girl I will get her number for hookups later. I almost never bring a girl back to my location that I didn't fuck first. One thing I like about the Colombia is that the casas do not seem to care if the the girls give out their info and side hustle.

[World Jockey]

What is up with this going to a place expecting to fuck chicks that look like chicks in another place? All that says is that people did not do basic homework.
Because you can get on a local hooker site like mileroticos for 2 seconds or even google people location and see images of how the local population looks. Who has expectations of going to Hawaii to see Africans?

Glad I don't have a problem going somewhere and not being able to pick from what is available to fuck, instead of being disappointed that they don't look like chicks somewhere else. This is too easy to avoid in the internet era.Exactly. There are people on youtube uploading videos walking around centro in MDE and Santa Fe. It doesn't get more clear what one is going to see than that.

[PVMonger]

What did she say about showing up to work late or the boss showing up with their paycheck late?I have traveled and worked extensively in Latin America and I can tell you that it absolutely is the culture that time doesn't have a lot of meaning.

In many Latin American countries, there are two shifts for school. Since schools are neighborhood-based through Secundaria (Jr. High) in most countries, mom or dad walks their kid to school, especially of they're younger. Then they get dressed for work, walk to the bus stop, wait for the bus, then get off of the bus and walk to their job. Most folks don't own a car and they depend upon public transportation. Public transportation is reliable but there aren't schedules. When the bus shows up, you get on it. Sometime you wait 5 minutes, sometimes 25 minutes. Why? Because traffic is horrendous in general. And since a bus has a fixed route, a traffic jam causes problems that somebody with a car might not face.

And since the "boss" was raised in the same culture he understands all if that. So showing up late for work is much more common than it is in North America or Europe. Gringos don't understand this at all and, in general, are upset when somebody doesn't show up exactly when they say they will.

When I was selling product to companies there, my US bosses got pissed off that I only had two sales calls per day. I explained why. You get up at 6 am, answer emails for a couple of hours, shower, dress and have breakfast. Your first appointment is at 9 am. You get there at 9 but the guy doesn't see you until almost 10. You spend an hour shooting the breeze because jumping right into a serious business discussion would be considered rude. He has scheduled your presentation to his people at 11. The presentation takes an hour and Q&A takes another hour. It is now 1 pm and you need to take the guy to lunch. That takes until 3 or 3:30. By the time you get him back to the office it is 4 and time to get to your second appointment at 5 pm. Same stuff. By the time you get that guy back to the office or home it is 11 pm. You get back to your hotel, stay up answering emails until 1. Lather, rinse, repeat for the next day.

[Aureliano16]

I was in Bogota for 3 months and visited every type of establishment from SF to sites in the north and also hired some prepagos from websites. I spent over 4 M COP on prostitutes and fucked 19 times including 2 threesomes. I also repeated with some girls. Ended up with 6 whatsapp contacts.

My overall impression is that the prices have been going up and up after the pandemic and that it's getting harder to find good value for low prices. But it's still possible to find great girls in Colombia, I love their bodies and their attitude. I still need to go to Brazil to compare, though.

I'm considering to create a small website with a map that has all the places I visited including prices / times and the exact address. Would I be able to post an URL of it in this forum? Or would that be seen as spamming? I found very hard to find updated and realiable information on the several places that exist in Bogota, especially the cheaper ones.

The best looking girl of my journey was "Monserrat" from Sensity Spa (CL 77 13-22) I'd rate her with a 9/10 if only she didn't have a big "tramp stamp" tattoo on the lower back. Natural big tits, big ass and a great young face, she just looks gorgeous. Problem is she doesn't kiss and is not very involved with her customers. She is a professional and just wants you to cum quickly and be over. I don't blame her nor judge her, she is just in this business for the money and has a fixed goal in mind, told me she'd quit the very next day she hits her goal.

The winner of best service was "Alison" from Loutron. It's the best service I've ever gotten from paid sex. She begged me to perform a BBBJ, she said she loved my cock and tried really hard to deepthroat it until getting some tears. She squirted using my dick as a dildo to rub her clit. I could only met her twice, and in the end I told her I wish I would not lose her number because I was going back to Europe and my Colombian number would be gone, she sounded genuinely scared and told me that such a thing should never happen so she gave me her real name, last name and instagram account. Judging by her photos it seems she is currently in Mexico.

And the best bang for the buck prize goes to "Valery" a Venezuelan streetwalker from Santa Fe, located in the north west corner of Carrera 15 with Calle 24. For 40 k it was amazing, she took all the initiative, told me what position to fuck her, we would switch positions all the time, she told me to pull her hair, to spank her ass, etc. We also looked at each other eyes very lavishly and sexy while she was on top. She was young, early twenties. I'd have loved to kiss her passionately and I think she'd have kissed me back, but I don't trust in the tidiness / health of such cheap girls. They must make up in volume what they lose in charging so little. So I didn't want to risk. I got her number and tried to schedule with her a couple of times but could not in the end.

The threesomes were not noteworthy; maybe one were I paid extra to get BBBJ from both girls, so one mouth sucking balls and other mouth sucking my dick bare at the same time felt great, but the sex itself was not so good, especially because of the change of condoms from going to one pussy to the other.

So, let me know if you'd like to see some Bogota website with all the info, I'm thinking of doing maybe a map or something.

[World Jockey]

I was in Bogota for 3 months and visited every type of establishment from SF to sites in the north and also hired some prepagos from websites. I spent over 4 M COP on prostitutes and fucked 19 times including 2 threesomes. I also repeated with some girls. Ended up with 6 whatsapp contacts.

My overall impression is that the prices have been going up and up after the pandemic and that it's getting harder to find good value for low prices. But it's still possible to find great girls in Colombia, I love their bodies and their attitude. I still need to go to Brazil to compare, though.

I'm considering to create a small website with a map that has all the places I visited including prices / times and the exact address. Would I be able to post an URL of it in this forum? Or would that be seen as spamming? I found very hard to find updated and realiable information on the several places that exist in Bogota, especially the cheaper ones.

The best looking girl of my journey was "Monserrat" from Sensity Spa (CL 77 13-22) I'd rate her with a 9/10 if only she didn't have a big "tramp stamp" tattoo on the lower back. Natural big tits, big ass and a great young face, she just looks gorgeous. Problem is she doesn't kiss and is not very involved with her customers. She is a professional and just wants you to cum quickly and be over. I don't blame her nor judge her, she is just in this business for the money and has a fixed goal in mind, told me she'd quit the very next day she hits her goal..Nice report. Despite some declaring the death of Colombia clearly YMMV. I have had horrible expensive girls and some great experiences with Santa Fe types. Even tho they are doing a job some people will just vibe better together than others.

As for your idea with the website / map, go for it. Plenty of people here have dropped links to other websites offering relevant info and a few have posted links to google maps with casa info on it.

[Mr Enternational]

My overall impression is that the prices have been going up and up after the pandemic and that it's getting harder to find good value for low prices.I fucked a chick in Barranquilla back in October for 100,000. Earlier this month I wanted to fuck the same chick but she told me 150,000. 200,000 plus taxi if she came to me. I was only like 3 or 4 blocks from her house where I fucked her last time.

[Mr Enternational]

And the best bang for the buck prize goes to "Valery" a Venezuelan streetwalker from Santa Fe, located in the north west corner of Carrera 15 with Calle 24. For 40 k I'd have loved to kiss her passionately and I think she'd have kissed me back, but I don't trust in the tidiness / health of such cheap girls. They must make up in volume what they lose in charging so little. So I didn't want to risk.You have to remember that for a national minimum wage of 800,000, she would only need 20 guys per month at 40K. The volume is not as high as one would think.

[ZedLeppelin10]

Hey guys,

I've got a trip booked to Bogota from April 3rd to all of May. I've been to Medellin before but that was to go see one girl and be with her so I didn't see anyone else in that time. This time, I'm going to go meet several girls I've been talking to with the expectations of sex (Threesomes and more), some with the expectations of being my guide and showing me around (which I hope ends with sex. Building rapport now), and I'm also interested in getting prepagos / escorts. I'll be doing sight seeing and meeting people too since I won't spend two months of just straight fucking, LOL.

Anyways, I'm in my 20's, Hispanic and look it, speak Spanish pretty well which allows me to talk to these girls very easily, college graduate, and am decently attractive. Slightly overweight but you wouldn't know it from just seeing me. I'm in the process of losing weight for this trip. I'm down to meetup with any of you, talk, shoot the shit, and am overall, hangout, pick up girls, and have a good time. We can go out and hang out and do mongering together or whatever. Just looking to make these two months extremely memorable with some Colombian and Venezuelan beauties. I don't give a fuck about your age or anything, just be cool and normal and we'll get along just fine.

[Shizzle78]

Hi all,

I am living for over 8 years here in Bogota and haven't been for ages back in SF. Anyone knows how the situation is in clubs like Fiebre and Paisas (I think the clubs called like this)? I have been with a friend in some reservados in the north but the prices are going through the roof and the chicas were less than regular.

[Stinky Squid]

I am known from my earliest exploits here (over a decade ago now, haha) to be falling in love. I love emotions. And we're chatting about Bogota girls, and some were complaining. I too find that Brazilians are generally more open and there is more interesting activity to be had in São Paulo compared to Bogotá. But the factor to consider is the Venezolanas. Most Venezolanas are here to try to get out of financial difficulties, but it's generally not working out well. What this means is that you get rather timid girls who are not in it for the love of the job. Compare that with my little porn starlet in Brazil, and it's a totally different feeling. You got to woo the girls a bit, and make them be at ease, and some of them you will not be lucky. It is all about if they like you a bit at least, some chemistry. I find that's the big success factor.

I have reported before that on mileroticos I had now 3 jackpot landings with really cute new-in-the-business girls. The first one, we had some chemistry and I would have gone right back to her, but then she didn't reply to my personal conversation in a personal way. So I went on elsewhere. But she was nice, and I should have gone back. Venezolana.

The next one wanted me to be her sugar daddy, and she was very cute, but she scared me because of her story of gang involvement, dad in prison for murder, and she too had killed one. So I bowed out of that one. But she was so cute, maybe too flat. But did I mention so cute? She needed a return visit to fully thaw the ice, but I had other things to do before getting myself back into the risk of being with a cute but crazy girl who sometimes kills. That one was not from Venezuela.

Now the third, that's turning out a romantic affair for me. Also very cute girl, just 18 or nominally 19 or so. She had a very strong suggestion on her profile, which spoke deep to the kinky side of my soul. So I put that right out on the table on my first WhatsApp message. And I just didn't go for several weeks, until she was back in Venezuela. But we got to chat a bit as she was there, personal, and then she started trying to woo me. Talked really sweet with me. (I do put my photo in my WhatsApp and upon first successful contact add the girls to my address book so the photo becomes visible. I want to give them the chance to reject me based on it, or, as in this case, start being more friendly. Now we have a little long distance affair.

The thing is with these Venezolanas, they have a tough life, and they don't even make that much in this business. And so, if you get to them, and win their trust, you get other places. It's something for the emotion junkies like me. If you want to have cool PSE sex, it may not be the thing.

Oh I forgot one girl from last year, Venezolana from CL 61 #13-44. She was nominally 18 at the time, and super cute, I liked her from my heart so much, that I didn't even finish with her. I started taking her under my wings. I played Captain Save-a-Hoe, literally. And it was not easy, but it worked. Within a month I had her come clean with her family at home, no more hiding, and shipped her home. Then it was a tough time supporting her given that so much bullshit was happening. But she got her act together and started grooming her little family farm, took courses in hair dressing, and set up a little shop, and I even got a 4 x4 truck for her (it was so incredibly cheap there in Venezuela, I just couldn't let that opportunity pass) and now she runs little freight jobs too. That girl was in this business starting with 15, and it's pretty exploitative. Now she's free of this because she got a little hand and mentorship from me. I am very pleased how that turned out. Sadly, I never got back from the role of her substitute dad to actually become her lover. But then, there are so many other options.

I had 3 more Venezolanas at CL 61 #13-44, on the lookout for a re-run of this experience, perhaps this time with also getting some passion in return. First one was rather mechanical but I just finished looking at her thinking how good I have it that I can rub myself off with a sweet doll like that, even if she doesn't want to connect with me. One we had some real chemistry but she wasn't that much my type. Another one we started with chemistry, she wanted to like it, and we kind-of lost steam mid-way. Then I went back at just being in this state looking at that face thinking how cool it is to do a girl with that homely face we have hereabouts, and thinking what if that was my wife and now 20 years older. I dunno, I have these thoughts. None of the three lit a spark.

Until the one came who started wooing me. And now I am in love again, after quite some time. And it's really good. But soon I must return to Brazil taking care of my babies there, and have a last session with my little porn starlet friend before she leaves for London.

I just wanted to put this out there, that el mundo prepago is essentially an introduction platform, a type of speed-dating, where you actually deal with real human beings, not so much performers. Personally, I like the good performers like my porn starlet in São Paulo who's also a friend and we have had great memorable sessions, and I like the fresh real ones, who aren't in this business for the fun of it, and many don't like it at all.

[Elvis 2008]

Oh I forgot one girl from last year, Venezolana from CL 61 #13-44. She was nominally 18 at the time, and super cute, I liked her from my heart so much, that I didn't even finish with her. I started taking her under my wings. I played Captain Save-a-Hoe, literally. And it was not easy, but it worked. Within a month I had her come clean with her family at home, no more hiding, and shipped her home. Then it was a tough time supporting her given that so much bullshit was happening. But she got her act together and started grooming her little family farm, took courses in hair dressing, and set up a little shop, and I even got a 4 x4 truck for her (it was so incredibly cheap there in Venezuela, I just couldn't let that opportunity pass) and now she runs little freight jobs too. That girl was in this business starting with 15, and it's pretty exploitative. Now she's free of this because she got a little hand and mentorship from me. I am very pleased how that turned out. Sadly, I never got back from the role of her substitute dad to actually become her lover. But then, there are so many other options.SS, you have got to do better with whom you invest your heart and money into. Look I get the emotional payoff of helping someone but if you do not get something in return like with this one, then you need to re-evaluate what you are doing. How come you are pleased? What did you get out of this?

I do not agree with everything Rich Cooper and Roland Tomassi on everything. They are manosphere leaders and podcasters, however they have focused on something that Hollywood movies want you to believe is true but is not. You cannot manufacture desire; it is either there or it is not, and you were trying to do that with this girl.

I am living proof that desire can exist with a 10 type and the guy can be older and not Brad Pitt, but it took a long time to get there. Go back and look at the first encounter you had with her. Did she want to stay or leave the room? How quickly does she get back with you? Is she sending you texts telling you how she is doing and asking how you are doing on a daily basis? Does she ever turn you down for sex? Do you feel loved and cherished in the relationship, or is the only time she texts / calls you is for money?

What I can say about Vennie women is that they are smart, tough, great in the sack, but most of all, they are fucking nuts. I do not know how I could be sane in that climate. Everything the government says is a lie. Anyone who invested for the long term was stupid, and the only people who made it were the short term robbers or drug lords. Everyone in Venezuela agrees with the statement, "Venezuela is a rich country but it is not rich because" And the because is they were stolen from. So you have a country that thinks it is okay to steal because everyone has stolen from them. Hugo Chavez was not a kook in that he took Venezuela to a point where they are now; he personified who Venezuelans are. He demonized the rich, glorified the poor, and snuck at least $8 billion out of the country in his daughter's name and said daughter lives in Miami. You are trying for a win-win relationship in a country with a people who have never had win-win.

Then from a mental health standpoint, there are people drinking from filthy rivers and eating garbage. I do not even want to guess how many toxins are in the food, and that fucks with people's minds. You have a petro nation with no obvious safety controls on production. I am not talking about having good bodies, but the only healthy appearing Vennie I ever met was out of the country for a long time.

And SS I just do not think the 18 or 19 YO working girl is going to appreciate you like a woman who has had a job and knows how hard it is to put food on the table.

I admire what you are trying to do. I just think you should focus more on helping yourself too.

[Shizzle78]

Hey guys,

I've got a trip booked to Bogota from April 3rd to all of May. I've been to Medellin before but that was to go see one girl and be with her so I didn't see anyone else in that time. This time, I'm going to go meet several girls I've been talking to with the expectations of sex (Threesomes and more), some with the expectations of being my guide and showing me around (which I hope ends with sex. Building rapport now), and I'm also interested in getting prepagos / escorts. I'll be doing sight seeing and meeting people too since I won't spend two months of just straight fucking, LOL.

Anyways, I'm in my 20's, Hispanic and look it, speak Spanish pretty well which allows me to talk to these girls very easily, college graduate, and am decently attractive. Slightly overweight but you wouldn't know it from just seeing me. I'm in the process of losing weight for this trip. I'm down to meetup with any of you, talk, shoot the shit, and am overall, hangout, pick up girls, and have a good time. We can go out and hang out and do mongering together or whatever. Just looking to make these two months extremely memorable with some Colombian and Venezuelan beauties. I don't give a fuck about your age or anything, just be cool and normal and we'll get along just fine.Hi ZedLeppelin10,

Great, just let me know and we go out and see what we can find, I have been living here for many years, but have let go a bit mongering.

[IronQuinn]

It's been a while (pre-pandemic), but I just finished up another Colombian trip. It was nice to walk the streets of Santa Fe again. I love it there, but a man has to know what to expect. There are guys who keep their eyes glued to their phone messing around with dating apps, or guys on SA playing the role of sugar daddy, deluded into thinking they actually have a girlfriend. Take the money away and see how long they stay. But, in SF all you need to do is walk out of your hotel and go shopping. Pick the beauty of your choice, negotiate up front on what you want, and do the deed. It's that simple. I spent a lot of time banging the young Vennies on Calle 23. Prices will cost you from 30 K up to 100 K if you want more than the standard. Don't come here looking for GFE, you're just renting their bodies, and that's exactly what I like. If I want a GFE, I get an actual GF back home based on my looks. Then again, I'm not an old, flabby guy with a gut bigger around than his waist. No offense to those who fit that category, they actually do need to pay for it. But, if you're in good shape, or even just a regular guy, keep your gfs for back home, and only use SF for renting bodies. If you keep that in mind, than you'll know what to expect, and you'll have a great time. As for safety, I never had a problem, nobody followed me, or stared in my direction. For the most part they don't care. Just stick to your business, don't wear jewelry (who you trying to impress anyway), and be casual. Don't listen to the doom and gloom reports. If you stick to the main area, you'll be fine. There are plenty of girls around. I even found a couple good ones on Sunday during the day. You're on vacation, talk to the guys hanging outside the bars, chat up the girls, enjoy yourself and relax. Nobody is out to get you. It's a RL district that's policed. You get to nail good looking chicks for low prices. It doesn't get anymore straightforward than that. Go have fun guys.

[Woodman09]

It's been a while (pre-pandemic), but I just finished up another Colombian trip. It was nice to walk the streets of Santa Fe again. I love it there, but a man has to know what to expect. There are guys who keep their eyes glued to their phone messing around with dating apps, or guys on SA playing the role of sugar daddy, deluded into thinking they actually have a girlfriend. Take the money away and see how long they stay. But, in SF all you need to do is walk out of your hotel and go shopping. Pick the beauty of your choice, negotiate up front on what you want, and do the deed. It's that simple. I spent a lot of time banging the young Vennies on Calle 23. Prices will cost you from 30 K up to 100 K if you want more than the standard. Don't come here looking for GFE, you're just renting their bodies, and that's exactly what I like. If I want a GFE, I get an actual GF back home based on my looks. Then again, I'm not an old, flabby guy with a gut bigger around than his waist. No offense to those who fit that category, they actually do need to pay for it. But, if you're in good shape, or even just a regular guy, keep your gfs for back home, and only use SF for renting bodies. If you keep that in mind, than you'll know what to expect, and you'll have a great time. As for safety, I never had a problem, nobody followed me, or stared in my direction. For the most part they don't care. Just stick to your business, don't wear jewelry (who you trying to impress anyway), and be casual. Don't listen to the doom and gloom reports. If you stick to the main area, you'll be fine. There are plenty of girls around. I even found a couple good ones on Sunday during the day. You're on vacation, talk to the guys hanging outside the bars, chat up the girls, enjoy yourself and relax. Nobody is out to get you. It's a RL district that's policed. You get to nail good looking chicks for low prices. It doesn't get anymore straightforward than that. Go have fun guys.I disagree-- I have gotten to know so many SGs over the last 10 yrs and have had many GFE Quickees-- Even with girls I just met-- It's all in the chemistry and being able to pre-qualify the girl when you chat her up and feel her out If you have a blah session that is mostly your fault. And I admit I have had less than thrilling sessions-- But mostly not. It's funny some girls I have had really great sex and then I might ignore them for a while and they get pissed and give a crappy session and it's over-- Never bang her again.

- Of course I like the club girls better and I have steady who I usually will see early when she gets there and I can stretch her out a bit-- It's 20 minutes in heaven, Just deepthroating, hairpulling Bending her all over like a sex doll. I actually have a few like that in different clubs.

I Just Love Santa Fe So Much-- I am tempted to go up to Chapinero and check out all the places I have been reading about.

[Voodoo Jones]

There are guys who keep their eyes glued to their phone messing around with dating apps, or guys on SA playing the role of sugar daddy, deluded into thinking they actually have a girlfriend. Take the money away and see how long they stay.

If I want a GFE, I get an actual GF back home based on my looks. Then again, I'm not an old, flabby guy with a gut bigger around than his waist. No offense to those who fit that category, they actually do need to pay for it. But, if you're in good shape, or even just a regular guy, keep your gfs for back home, and only use SF for renting bodies.Get off your high horse, we're all paying for the same thing and you're acting like you're somehow better than someone else. You're on an anonymous forum where people are trying to share advice on other avenues to meet women.

I have FWBs back home, but still used SA and got to spend half-days with hot women for less than your higher-end hourly rate in the comfort of my own hotel. The first SA girl I met asked for 200 K after spending like 5 hours together. Who gives a shit how we met them? No one here is under the impression that they're our GFs.

In fact, I'm headed back to Bogota today to hook up with 3 different women (plus a friend for some more threesomes) from SA.

[LatinaLover#1]

Of course it's safe in front of Atunes, Picina etc, the owners have a vested interest in keeping the front of their place safe, it would be bad for business. But in Bogota it continues to be dangerous, just ask the citizens, or Lopez the mayor of the city if the dangers are out of control. Over the last 15 years I have seen the city get more and more dangerous everyday. Just a few days ago a man was shot FIRST and robbed late in a bakery at Andino Mall, one of the most exclusive malls in the city, at 1:30 in the afternoon with hundreds of people all over the place, so much for safety in numbers. Also a 12 year old boy was killed this week by a FARC bomb in the south, I believe it was in Bolivar Verde and injuring 35 some odd people. Stay vigilant and stay safe.

[IronQuinn]

I disagree-- I have gotten to know so many SGs over the last 10 yrs and have had many GFE Quickees-- Even with girls I just met-- It's all in the chemistry and being able to pre-qualify the girl when you chat her up and feel her out If you have a blah session that is mostly your fault. And I admit I have had less than thrilling sessions-- But mostly not. It's funny some girls I have had really great sex and then I might ignore them for a while and they get pissed and give a crappy session and it's over-- Never bang her again.

- Of course I like the club girls better and I have steady who I usually will see early when she gets there and I can stretch her out a bit-- It's 20 minutes in heaven, Just deepthroating, hairpulling Bending her all over like a sex doll. I actually have a few like that in different clubs.

I Just Love Santa Fe So Much-- I am tempted to go up to Chapinero and check out all the places I have been reading about.I've had some fantastic gfs back home, so my version of a GFE is held to that standard. I would say better than half my sessions were good, I just wouldn't call them GFE, suppose it's to the individual. Even though I was mostly with street Vennies, I had a fantastic session with Michele at Texas. That girl has a great ass and can move, finished me off in reverse CG like a champ. I agree with you there can be less than thrilling sessions. Luckily, I only had one this time around. The girl wouldn't do doggy-style even though all positions were agreed beforehand. Had to give her the boot. All in all, I love SF. It's a great playground.

[IronQuinn]

Get off your high horse, we're all paying for the same thing and you're acting like you're somehow better than someone else. You're on an anonymous forum where people are trying to share advice on other avenues to meet women.

I have FWBs back home, but still used SA and got to spend half-days with hot women for less than your higher-end hourly rate in the comfort of my own hotel. The first SA girl I met asked for 200 K after spending like 5 hours together. Who gives a shit how we met them? No one here is under the impression that they're our GFs.

In fact, I'm headed back to Bogota today to hook up with 3 different women (plus a friend for some more threesomes) from SA.Stay cool VJ, it's all good. I was pointing out how easy and convenient SF is. If you like SA, go do your thing.

[JackEnBogo]

Hi ZedLeppelin10,

Great, just let me know and we go out and see what we can find, I have been living here for many years, but have let go a bit mongering.Hey Shizzle78 and ZedLeppelin10,

I'm in Bogotá for April and May too. I've been to Medellin and Cartagena, I'm just starting to explore Bogotá. I'm still working on Spanish but I speak a bit. I'm up for going out; I can't use the PM system yet.

[Ggekko2009]

This is a duplicate post from another forum and I thought that since this event also happened in Bogota, I would like to share my experience in this forum as well. Here it is.

Decided to spend a bit of time away working remotely while checking out life in Bogota. My other objective was to experience personally what some of these regular girls can offer primarily through SA. This is my second trip to Bogota.

There is definitely a lot of work that needs to be done on SA, and for me, it is a learning process. Many have reported that it is just too much work on SA without the sight of quick return. I would agree especially if the preferred method is to bang as many girls with least minimal effort.

It will be very difficult to meet and get the girl that one want and willing to have sex with on a short notice on SA. However, if one is of the type who prefer companionship with sexual intimacy, SA could be a potential avenue to explore.

A month prior to my trip, I had started to collect the girls contact info. So much so, I have more girls willing to meet than I have time for them. Naturally, I will prioritize girls who are showing more interest in me than simply ignoring me beyond a simple greeting. Probably in hindsight, it is not the best approach, but without much prior experience, I work with with what I have.

These were the girls that I met in person.

SA Girl #1

Got a message from this SA girl on my first evening in Bogota. I was surprised that she kept tab of when I would be in Bogota based on my last conversation almost a month back and with whom I had never chatted since.

I gave this girl a wider berth since she seemed to be fluent in English, and as I did not feel like eating dinner alone. She happened to be in the area on a medical visit when she chatted with me and I invited her over for a dinner. We had a pretty good dinner date and did not do anything beyond that since I was tired and would have a important meeting that I need to prepare for the next day. So we parted after dinner but kept the option of seeing each again open over the weekend.

SA Girl #2

She is probably one of the most enthusiastic lot given how she would check in on me regularly even prior to reaching Bogota. She is in her early 20's and looked cute in the picture that she sent me and I imagined that she has a nice pair of boobs underneath.

I had a few hours to spare during daytime after lunch and scheduled a time for her to come. I met her in a coffeeshop near my apartment before heading back together.

I made a noobie mistake of not clarifying on the service that I wanted before our meeting. So when she asked for protection while we were making out, I did not want to insist on BB on her. Anyway, her tits were simply boobalicious. Also, this was the first time I was with any girl who can really squirt. I was taken back when her pussy juice were spraying all over my bed and I had to scramble for a towel to contain this mess.

I asked if she has sex with many other people afterwards but said she only have sex with her boyfriend. I had seen her boyfriend in her WhatsApp post in the past. She wanted to see me again, I told her only if she is willing to go BB the next time which she agreed. She was a college student and was on SA for only a month and I was her first encounter.

Alas, I did not have the time for the second meet, since I had so many other girls that I want to try out with my somewhat limited time.

SA Girl #3

I had this Girl #3 the next day who is in her mid-20's. She was almost as enthusiastic as Girl #2. This time I learned from the earlier mistake, and told her that I wanted BB before agreeing for her to come by in the evening, and she agreed.

I asked her to send me her photo to be taken at that moment and unfiltered, which she did shortly. She did not look that great in that photo but was not too bad either. So I told her to come over to my apartment after her restaurant shift in the evening.

When she arrived, she looked much cuter in person than in her photo. I was attracted by her smile and that almost innocent girl next door look. Before the deed, we showered together because I wanted to go down on her and also expecting reciprocity. She was one of the only SA girl where I received a BJ and a decent one too. The sex was only okay.

I asked her how long she had done this and she mentioned that I was her first SD with an expected meet up with another SD the following month.

Anyway, after sex, I was hungry and we walked to Zona T where there were plenty of good restaurants. During dinner, I asked if she has friends and she hinted if I was interested in a threesome and I mentioned I would like it only if she is comfortable with it.

Then she showed me a photo of this girl (SA Girl #5) whom I recognize from one of the SA girls that I had communicated earlier. At that moment, I was thinking maybe I can have her spend the weekend with me while giving me the option of exploring other girls while she was with me. I offered her the arrangement for her to stay with me over the weekend and she agreed. On hindsight, it was probably a mistake as I was hoping to replicate the fun times that I used to have with this Colombian bisexual girl in my previous trip.

At that moment, I forgot that I have already a meet with SA Girl #4 that evening for a dinner and sex. I did not want to cancel of that girl since she looked so pretty in that picture that she sent me and a really nice pair of rack. Plus she had also agreed to BB. So, I reshuffled our meet to noon the next day.

Girl #3 showed up on my apartment the next evening after work, and we had a quickie before heading over to the Irish pub in Zona T to meet up with a new ISG member and a friend who happened to be in Bogota at that time. After a few drinks there, my friends and us headed over to the Lio bar and had a wild night partying in that club. I was completely wasted that night and the girl and I both woke up with a huge hangover the following day.

Anyway, without dragging out the boring details, the longer this girl stayed with me the less that I like her. That initial infatuation that I felt for her wore off. Many small details added up to big ones that would prevent me from ever wanting her to stay any longer than a meet in the future.

SA Girl #4

She is only 19 but, oh boy, she was the best screw among all the SA girls. I say SA girls, since I actually had better sessions with the escort agency girls, which I will write up below.

Anyway, I rescheduled our meet to noon that Saturday since I have asked Girl #3 to come that evening to accompany me that night through the weekend.

This girl wanted me to send her an Uber which I did. For a 10-mile ride, the total trip took an hour on a weekend. This gives you an idea of how bad Bogota's traffic is.

I met her in front of the building and we headed for lunch together to a restaurant nearby since I was hungry. She was shy and almost quiet during this whole encounter. When she took off her mask, I was actually disappointed that she was not as attractive as her photo. Still attractive but not as good.

After lunch, we headed back to my apartment and we were in the apartment, this girl transformed into a wild one in bed. She would kiss me passionately and as soon as our clothes were off, she would dry hump me as I fondled and sucked on her big natural tits and my dick got super hard real fast. Just as soon, she took off of her underwear, climbed on top of me and slid my dick into her pussy. She would gyrate her hips and those internal friction made me came before long. As I came into her pussy and she would continue to gyrate non-stop until I have to eventually stop her as I can't take it any longer.

We chatted for a while and 10 minutes in, and my dick would get hard again. She would grab it and started to ride me. Coming twice in a single day is somewhat of a rarity for me these days. Making me come twice in a span of an hour requires a real skillset from that girl. I came into her again but at that point, it was probably just blanks. Let's hope that she does not claim to be pregnant in a few months.

SA Girl #5

This girl was on SA the longest and told me she had two SD before me with the platform. Turned out that she was a Venezuelan. I conducted the same protocol with this girl, unfiltered photo and if she is okay with BB. One thing that struck me was she said that even though she took great care of herself, she was willing to do it with me. We agreed to meet and have her come to my apartment that evening. Anyway, this girl turned out to be a real disaster in bed, which I would explain later.

At this time, I had not yet has a chance to use the service of my go-to escort agency eroticasbogota, and I wanted to sample their girls again while in Bogota.

So I texted them and picked Diana who was able to do CIM as an extra service. She showed up at my apartment in the afternoon, and she was this cute spinner with a beautiful balanced sets of body and tits. Very passionate and GFE and I told her that I wanted to CIM before I screw her and she obliged.

I did not get a chance to do a CIM so far, and that was the best come that I had so far in this trip. For a minute or so as she sucked them all up, I thought that she might swallow it until she gestured for a permission to go to the bathroom to spit them out. We continued with more banging afterwards. Overall, it was a good session and the girls from eroticasbogota rarely disappoint.

I got a few hours to recuperate before my next meet with SA Girl #5.

I told this girl to be at my apartment at 6 pm and given that she lives at Chapinero, I thought it would not take too much time. 30 minutes in, she said she was still on her way and she showed me a screen shot of where she was and how much more time it would take to reach my apartment.

To my surprise, her screen shot was showing it to be still 50 minutes away and what is worse, it was showing how long it would be to walk to my place. WTF. I told her to grab an Uber and I will pay for it which she immediately did.

When she got to my apartment, we spent a good time chatting and she was a pretty upbeat girl. I was not ready to dive straight into sex since I had already done so a few hours earlier with Diana.

My friend texted me then and asked me if I would like to grab dinner or a drink since I will be flying back the next day. I said yes and told him that I will be bringing along this girl. By the time we wrapped up our dinner, it was 9 pm. The girl mentioned to me earlier that she need a hard stop at 11 PM. I offered her extra if she can stay later or until the next morning, and she was adamant that she can't and had to leave no latter than 11 PM as previously agreed with me.

Since I wanted to know how it was like to bang this girl, I had to cut the meeting with my friend short and hurried back to my apartment on taxi. I really didn't like the rush. Anyway, when we got to my apartment, we stripped and she asked me what I would like. I said let's start with a BBJ and then a BB. She resisted with the BB initially until I showed her our previous text on WhatsApp. Alas, it was for nothing, since after I poked my dick into her pussy, I smelled something was not right, and I meant that literally. Her pussy had this unbearable stench, and I just dipped my dick into that stench.

I stopped all activities and went to the bathroom to wash it off with a wet towel. Still that stench remained, and I had to take a shower and probably used my body wash three times to get rid of that smell. I have to say that a stinky pussy is like a kryptonite.

Given it was my last night, I did not want to end my trip with this stench. I texted eroticasbogota to see if they can still send a girl over to me at this hours, and they said yes and one can arrive in 30 minutes. After that, I stepped out of the bathroom and while the girl was still wondering what was going on, I paid her and gave her taxi money and told her that I need her to leave in 5 minutes. She did but was still wondering what was going on. Anyway, that will be the last time I will be seeing her.

About 30 minutes later, Hanna from the agency came. The front desk called me if it is ok to let her up and I said yes. Hanna was just as adorable as Diana and her service was just as good.

I was glad that I was able to leave Bogota with a still favorable experience and had these agency girls come to the "rescue" when needed.

Anyway, this is my first experience with SA girls and I thought of sharing this with everyone.

[Mr Enternational]

Anyway, this is my first experience with SA girls and I thought of sharing this with everyone.Great stories, but what were the costs of the girls?

[Stinky Squid]

SS, you have got to do better with whom you invest your heart and money into. Look I get the emotional payoff of helping someone but if you do not get something in return like with this one, then you need to re-evaluate what you are doing. How come you are pleased? What did you get out of this?...
And SS I just do not think the 18 or 19 YO working girl is going to appreciate you like a woman who has had a job and knows how hard it is to put food on the table.

I admire what you are trying to do. I just think you should focus more on helping yourself too.Appreciate your giving me some advice here. I know this advice, I have probably been more in red-pill theory than most here. And I agree with you for the most part.

By the way, that meeting with the 18 yo now that started in some sort of long-distance relationship through texts, it went nowhere. I didn't like her that much actually, but I did my part. I was already worried that she'd latch on to me too much. So I was both pissed and relieved when it turns out that she didn't really deliver on the passion she fanned up through text. It's ok, you never know the chemistry. All the while my little one in Brazil keeps asking me when I'll be back. With her there was more chemistry the first time. It's best to meet first and dream later than dream first and meet later. But OK, I knew this risk and didn't lose too much.

About that first Venezuelan girl that I said I was happy and even proud how she turned out back home, it might be an age thing. I am slightly over 50 now, and I really can take delight when a cute girl who seemed in so many ways like a child, actually starts living a life of dignity, and I feel the zest in her messages. How she likes being economically active, improve her little finca, all that. By the way, she regularly contacts me asking how I woke up and if I had eaten already. But she has "graduated" now to the point where she doesn't need to ask for money again. I was so pleased with how solid she turned out, that I suggested her to see if she could acquire some neighboring finca in my name and use it for some more planting or grazing. Land is so cheap in Venezuela, and it would be nice to remotely plant a flag there, just in case. (I live in South America now, roaming about.).

So yes, I totally agree with you, I must first care for myself and not dilute myself in care-taking behaviors for others were I don't get my needs met. I certainly am not going around now looking to save a ho and be displeased. In fact, this is precisely why I told the other girl this morning that, sorry, but if I don't feel appreciated, I prefer to not waste my time any further, and called the weekend off. Recovering a bit today, and tomorrow I will go on a repeat with one who was good with me before, or go down my list of others I wanted to try until I leave in a week or two.

[Stinky Squid]

Just came back from my first repeat (in Colombia, I have been twice with my porn starlet in Brazil for professional sessions). Got a really sweet one who has really long black hair which I adore and is so hard to find. She says she is 22 or 23, her pictures are from some years ago where she still had a very girly face. So every time I see her I see that time and the hardships of life have taken a certain toll. But we have a nice chemistry so this more than makes up for it. And when I take my glasses off and we are in the action, I don't see those hardships and time any more, but see a really adorable face and that beautiful hair. And since we have a nice connection, I get to have nice kissing too. Just what I need to walk away smiling. And she isn't even expensive, just 90 the hour + 30 for the BBBJ option -- proof, once again, that you don't get what you pay for, you get what you conjure up when there is raw material to conjure with. And I find more and more that in the end the BBBJ isn't even all that. In the end, my favorite position is mish with connection, or her on top. Will probably have her over night next Sunday.

I really needed this connection to get over the "breakup" with the Venezolana who had me all fired up lovey-lovey over text and then completely failed to do her part to actually make it work. But the more I think about it the more relieved I am, because I liked her for her cuteness not for her beauty, and so I am glad now that she didn't try to catch me as we had coo cooed that she would give her best trying.

I know I should be a good fellow here and share her contact (I mean the good one, not the one that didn't work out), but I feel so possessive of "my" girls, so, maybe I tell you in 2 weeks when I'm going back to Brazil for a longer time.

[Norbert61]

I've been to Medellin a few times and last time there I met an SA girl who is now going to school in Bogota. I have spent the winter in the DR and thought I would do another spin through Colombia on the way home. It's really cheap to get here from the DR BTW. It was somewhat easier to go to Bogota so I thought I would see my SA girl again. When I got here she have me the run around so I could not see her that day. Well shit I am old and there is a cycle to things any way I was loaded for bear and thought I would try a very well reviewed Photoprepagos girl. I get to her place and got ghosted. She did apologize later and promised to make it up to me. I wish I had done more prep because I was right by the Mezanine and dd not realize it till I got back to my hotel- The SA girl messages me in the morning and tells me she is coming at 1130 and that she was sorry about yesterday. Well she did it was awesome but a little short lived. She would have stayed but I know she need to go and TBH I wanted a nap. I did want to see Santa Fe so I went down to have a look. A lot of guys say that Centro in Medellin is not for the feint of heart but I like it there- Well Santa Fe is a whole other bunch of sketchy- I left it late in the day and there was no way I was staying past dark -my 10 foot tall and bullet proof days are behind me plus I am old and right now I am limping a little. Christ I felt like the old zebra when he hears the lions. I ended up making a hasty decision because I wanted out of there. It was a shitty CBJ which I did not finish. It was not what was promised so I just called it quits and got tf out of there- there were a lot of worthwhile girls there I wish I had had a better look around. I would go again- earlier in the afternoon and probably when I was in a better frame of mind- SA girl offered up a friend who is hot AF for today but I got to take today off. I really hope I get another chance to meet her- I want to nail SA girl again tomorrow and I have another girl lined up for tomorrow night in Medellin- SO. All and all I have not had much of a trip to Bogota. There seems to be limited other shit to do also but again that is just a brief uninitiated look. Plus it's cold man. I haven't been this cold since I left Canada 4 months ago. I am staying near Parque 93 and there is an excellent Argy steak house -Restaurant La Estancia Chica- So anyway I feel as though I did this all wrong. Not much of a monger review here I'm afraid but at least there's a good restaurant recommendation.

[JjBee62]

Has anyone noticed what rate the airport money exchanges are giving? I normally wouldn't ask, because airport exchanges always give a lousy rate. However, last summer the rate at the Bogota airport was very close to the ATM rate. I'll be passing through Bogota in a few weeks and need to pick up quite a bit of cash (I'm headed to a place without banks and ATMs). If the rate is still decent it would simplify things.

[LatinaLover#1]

Has anyone noticed what rate the airport money exchanges are giving? I normally wouldn't ask, because airport exchanges always give a lousy rate. However, last summer the rate at the Bogota airport was very close to the ATM rate. I'll be passing through Bogota in a few weeks and need to pick up quite a bit of cash (I'm headed to a place without banks and ATMs). If the rate is still decent it would simplify things.I was very surprised 6 weeks ago when I arrived in Bogota to get an excellent exchange rate at the cambio, right next to the baggage carousels. The same was true when my girl needed to change dollars back to pesos when she returned to Bogota in November, so I think they have made a permanent change and are now giving rates very near or possible better than ATM because no service fee like the ATMs It's rare to see Latin countries do things that make sense business wise. Airport rates were always the worst and everyone would just walk right past the cambios.

[KilledSoul]

Christ I felt like the old zebra when he hears the lions. I ended up making a hasty decision because I wanted out of there. It was a shitty CBJ which I did not finish.People who are rightly worried about looking like fish out of water in SF but still want to enjoy SF should just take a taxi and directly go to a club like Troya. Enjoy time inside the club and take the taxi just outside the club back to their hotel. Walking on the streets will not be needed if you don't have to enjoy streetie sweeties.

[JjBee62]

I was very surprised 6 weeks ago when I arrived in Bogota to get an excellent exchange rate at the cambio, right next to the baggage carousels. The same was true when my girl needed to change dollars back to pesos when she returned to Bogota in November, so I think they have made a permanent change and are now giving rates very near or possible better than ATM because no service fee like the ATMs It's rare to see Latin countries do things that make sense business wise. Airport rates were always the worst and everyone would just walk right past the cambios.Thank you. I nearly gave myself whiplash last year when I saw the rate. I'm glad it's still good. When I have more time getting to multiple ATMs isn't a problem, but this trip I'll have 4 flights on 3 different airlines in about 20 hours. Fortunately, once I get off the last plane I've got 3 days of relaxation (with an eager 19 year old non-pro) before I have to move again.

[Woodman09]

People who are rightly worried about looking like fish out of water in SF but still want to enjoy SF should just take a taxi and directly go to a club like Troya. Enjoy time inside the club and take the taxi just outside the club back to their hotel. Walking on the streets will not be needed if you don't have to enjoy streetie sweeties.Yes, and also there are 7 clubs right Next to each other and others nearby-- so very easy to club-hop. -- I love Santa Fe my sex playground.

[Elvis 2008]

Has anyone noticed what rate the airport money exchanges are giving? I normally wouldn't ask, because airport exchanges always give a lousy rate. However, last summer the rate at the Bogota airport was very close to the ATM rate. I'll be passing through Bogota in a few weeks and need to pick up quite a bit of cash (I'm headed to a place without banks and ATMs). If the rate is still decent it would simplify things.It was 3200 at the Cartagena airport last week.

[Stinky Squid]

Monday I was with a deep throating specialist and the next day, Tuesday, I am running a fever. This is not the first time it happens to me, in fact, since I started really angling into this predilection, it happens every time. Since this isn't about Bogota even though it happened in Bogota now, I have opened t new topic in general locality-independent discussions. I would love to hear what others' experience are in this area.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4293-The-joys-and-perils-of-deep-throating

[Infamousss]

OK last minute trip being planned for. Bogota.

I have been to Medellin & I must say I like the setup of walking into a Casas.

Seeing a lineup.

Picking a number and going at it.

But I can't find the Casas list for Bogota?

Where is it?

What is the average prices.

What area is the best area to stay in to be safe & close to the casas.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Monday I was with a deep throating specialist and the next day, Tuesday, I am running a fever. This is not the first time it happens to me, in fact, since I started really angling into this predilection, it happens every time. Since this isn't about Bogota even though it happened in Bogota now, I have opened t new topic in general locality-independent discussions. I would love to hear what others' experience are in this area.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4293-The-joys-and-perils-of-deep-throatingSounds like you should stop deep throating.

And BTW this is a site for hetero males.

[Stinky Squid]

And BTW this is a site for hetero males.WTF are you implying!

[Mr Enternational]

I have been to Medellin & I must say I like the setup of walking into a Casas. But I can't find the Casas list for Bogota? Where is it?Have you tried the Bogota Lists thread?

[Fudi Maar]

OK last minute trip being planned for. Bogota.

But I can't find the Casas list for Bogota?

Where is it?

What is the average prices.

What area is the best area to stay in to be safe & close to the casas.Just search my posts. I've written extensively about numerous casas in Bogota in the last month.

[QuackUp]

I just got back from Bogota. This is my second trip there and went with two of my friends who have never been there. Last time I stayed in the North, this time stayed in the south and liked it much better. I like the dark and seedy side of the city. I'll try and list the stuff most guys need for their first trip down. Airlines: United, it was $320.00 are / t which was a great price. Immigration. Had to fill out the check mig beforehand. When filling out the regular check mig, on the last page I would always get an error message. Stating that the information was already submitted, which it wasn't. Anyways, to circumvent the problem, I went to the contingency check mig website and it went through very smoothly. Got the verification with code. Same thing happened on the departure check mig so had to do the contingent check mig again. After picking up our luggage, they wanted to exchange money. I had pesos from my last trip so I was good. Now most of us have it ingrained in our mind that the exchange rate at most airports are pretty bad so just change a little bit, then change more when in the city. Earlier in the day I checked the xe exchange rate and it showed 3771 cop to the dollar. The exchange at the airport was 3750 cop to the dollar. Just about even with the xe rate. I was surprise at the good rate and my friends exchanged about $500.00 usd. Another thing that was ingrained in my mind was always used my see / S card to obtain money since the rates are usually good and they reimburst the ATM fees. The one time I used my card, the rate turned out to be about $3690.00 to the dollar and that's with turning down the BS conversion rate they offer. Anyways found a casa de cambio in La Candalaria that gave a great rate. It is called Eduar Perz II. The address is Cr. 6 #12 see-40. In this area there were about four more casa de cambios but when I saw the rate here, I didn't bother with the others. For the day I changed money here, the xe rate was 3777.00 cop to the dollar. The casa gave me a rate of 3800 cop to one dollar. Another thing I like about this casa, the person showed the stamp on the bills to prove they were not fake even though I probably couldn't tell the difference.

Transportation from the airport to the hotel and back. I prebooked with Colombian buddy. It was $38.00 are / t. I know there are lower means of transport, but there were three of us and I wanted to make sure there was room for all of our luggage. A regular taxi would have been able to take us as passengers but not the luggage. We were picked up in an suv so the luggage and ourselves had plenty of room and they were on time both ways. I recommend this service only if you have many persons and or alot of luggage. Sim card. Usually I would buy a local sim card but this time I wanted to try something different. I used an e-sim card from ubigi. I got the 14 day for $14.00 usd since there weren't any plans for less than 14 days. Yes, it cost more than a local sim but a lot less than the $10.00 usd a day rate that at&t offers and it is just so convenient. The ubigi esim is only for the data and not for voice calls. I mainly used it for whatsapp and uber.

Hotel. We stayed at the Ibis museo which is in a great location. Here are the negatives. When I first saw the room, I was thinking this is the smallest room I have been in for a Accor hotel. There's no fridge and the instruction on how to use the safe was wiped out. On Friday and Saturday there is loud music coming from somewhere and if you are a light sleeper like I am it will be tough to sleep. The pluses for the hotel is location. You can walk from the hotel to the historical center, the planetarium was close by. Easy walk to Santa Fe when not doing any sight-seeing. Shower with hot water worked perfectly and the tv although most channels are in Spanish, I was ablt to watch the men's finals which turned out to be a good game. Many restaurants and shopping close by.

[QuackUp]

Here are some reviews of the clubs I visited in no particular order. Troyas. I like this club. Strip shows are happening all the time. Got a couple of lap dances. Most of the girls will leave you alone unless you somehow make some kind of contact with them. Maybe a smile or staring at them too long. Prices. I don't drink so mostly coke or water which came out to $10,000 cop. I bought a lady drink and it was $13,000 cop. Totally worth it since the it took the girl about half an hour to finish it and many lap dances during this time although not nude. I was told for the fully nude lap dance you need to buy a bottle. Since I don't drink no bottle service for me and didn't ask the price for the bottle. I did take one girl up, maybe I should say lady since she said she was 30 years old. Forgot her name but the vets will probably know who she is since she says she works everyday but leaves early around 7-8:00 at night. She has blond hair and is a little thick but was alot of fun upstairs. The cost to take her up was $60,000 cop. She did not rush and didn't ask for payment, so I payed at the end. No shower but she had wipes to clean up with. The cleanup girl did ask for a tip so I gave her $2,000 cop. Here is a question for anyone. My friend took a vennie from here. She told him $100,000 cop. When they got up, they went to the bar first and he told me she gave the bartender $20,000. Then they went upstairs where she asked for the money up front. The question here, is why did she pay the bartender $20,000?

Fiebre. Another stripclub with good talent. My coke was $10,000 and the lady drinks were the same price of what we pay. To take a girl up was between $150,000 to $200,000 cop. Yes it's more expensive than Troyas. I took a girl named Scarlett upstairs. She asked for $150,00 and was well worth it. She was one of the stripper and a body to die for. Only 23 years old. Before going up I told her if she kisses and she said no. When in the room, once we got started she was kissing like a champ. Now comes the funny part. I'm doing my thing and totally enjoying it. I finally finish and sweating thinking it felt like hours since we started. I go to the bathroom and use the sink to wash my lower regions. When I get back to the bed I started to put my clothes on. When she's see this she tells me, I have another condom and we still have more time. So much for lasting a long time. LOL. Usually in Colombia it's a one and done thing unlike Brazil so she blew my mind when she said we could continue. Anyways, I thanked her but said one shot was good enough for me. Still I was impressed by her service so I asked her to come to my hotel the day before I would fly back home and I would take her to dinner after the hotel. She agreed but when the day came, she whatsapp me and said she was running late and could we meet later than our schedule time. I told her I couldn't because I promised I would take my friends back to Santa Fe for the last night of our trip and that maybe I would see her in the club later. She agreed but I never saw her again. She did whatsapp me the next day to wish me a safe flight home.

Paisas. This was a weird club to me. We got there around 18:00 and there were around 6 girls in the club. The guys outside said there was a stripshow ready to start. It was after 19:00 before ths show started. A couple of girls were good looking but all of the girls were just staring at their phones. If one of the better looking girls would have looked up I would have brought them over to the table but it didn't happen. When the show started, the first two girls were big. Nothing wrong with that but not my taste. Don't get me wrong, I like thin to thick but these girls were more than thick. Not sure how these girls make money since they don't seem engaged to the customer. At least the prices were reasonable. My coke was 8,000 cop but I believe the guys said a lady drink was $25,000 cop. I did talk to one girl who was playing with her phone to get a price to go upstairs. She said it's $80,000 cop. I didn't take anyone up from here.

Atunes. I went on a Saturday and there were alot of guys compared to the girls. My coke was $4,000 cop and couldn't even talk to any girls because as soon as one got freed, another customer would claim her. I did see one tall girl I would have like to get to know better but that wasn't happening. After 45 minutes I decided to leave and come back tomorrow. Hopefully the tall chick would be there. Turns out that the tall chick wouldn't be there because Atunes is closed on Sunday. I did try again on Monday, my last full day in Bogota but the tall girl wasn't there. If fact, there were only three girls there. I asked the waiter if more girls would be coming but he told me Mondays though Wednesday are bad. Thursday to Saturday are the days to come here. Needless to say, didn't take anyone up.

Pussy House and? Since Atunes was closed on Sunday we decided to go to Pussy House in Chapinero. We google it and it said it was open on Sunday and closed on Monday. They lied. We ubered up there and since it was a Sunday no traffic. As we were getting close to the place we notice there were some guys in front of a door on the right side of the street. We went past those guy about 25 yards and our driver stopped and said Pussy House is on our left side but closed. While trying to figure out what to do, a guy from the place we past comes over to us. Tell us there are chicas inside but the place looks a bit shaddy. We first ask the guys if it would be okay to look in and if we don't like it we would leave. He said no problem Then we turned to our driver and asked him if he could wait for us in case we decided to leave. He also said no problem. We get out of the car and I'm the last guys out. I follow my friend in though the door. Then we were led up some creepy stairway. I'm thinking, at least I had fun up to this point. When we get to the top, there is a doorway to the club. Looking very quickiy, I think there were around ten girls there with about eight guys sitting around. As we walked past the girls, most of the girls would grab my cock or squeeze my ass. My kind of place and in return I started to put my hands in between the legs of the girls. When we got to the end, one of my friends felt really uncomfortable and wanted to leave. I said okay and we started out. I was looking forward to going throught the gauntlet again. Sure enought, more hands all over my body, my hands trying to grab as much as I can. I guess I like dirty and seedy. Don't know the name of the club since there was no signage but I'm assuming it was divas according to wt's map. There is a slight difference on the map where this club is located but if I come back to Bogota, I will find out and do some hands on investgation. After the drive dropped us off at the hotel, we went to grabs some bugers nearby. I told my friend, this is the kind of club I like because there was good interaction between the girls and customer.

Final thoughts. Santa Fe is a rough area but I think as long as you use common sense you should be okay. Everytime I went to Santa Fe I walked and a couple of times I went by myself. The clubs here are what you make of it. Even if the clubs didn't have someone I would take up, I would get the best looking girls and buy her a drink. That usually led to lap dances and most of the girls I bought drinks for, took their time drinking it. When I had my friends with me in the clubs, we could be there hours just conversing between us. When I went alone, like I said before, I would buy a drink for a girl because I like the interaction between us. If by chance you go alone, I would recommend watching the show and if it starts to feel boring, to buy a girl a drink, Cost wise, it cheap and even if you don't know Spanish, the girl will appreciate it. You will probably get a better lapdance than in the states since you can put your hands just about anywhere.

[KindAn]

Anyone have recommendations for decent massage spots here. I'm near Santa Fe. I know some 'massage' spots are terrible, so I'd prefer a place that does genuine massages at a decent budget, but also provides extra if that's where I feel like going.

Thanks!

[JackTaggart]

Thanks to many other posts about SA in the past, I was able to get a good idea of a good approach to start. There have been a couple really good posts about the actual SA experiences so I am going to more focus on the mechanics of using it and the dates for now. I will probably make another post after about the dates later. I want to share with you guys what seemed to work well on my first try. For reference. I am a late 30's guy that is more or less HWP. I would not consider myself the most attractive man in the world. I speak zero Spanish and like a GFE experience. I am looking for a combination of one night stands and to find a few regular girls that I can see when I am in Bogota many times per year. Given my situation, I am willing to invest some additional time for the diamonds in the rough.

I signed up for SA 2 weeks ahead of time and started browsing and favoriting girls. No messages from them. My profile was in English and real basic about having work in Bogota. Culture, food, and fun. I did not start messaging until I was in Bogota. This is the script I followed. I ignored most of the Instagram models and girls that had tags for only luxury life and travel on their profile.

English. Hey, I'm Jack Taggart. I'd love to chat if you are interested.

Spanish. Hola, soy Jack Taggarto. Me encantaría chatear si estás interesado.

Her. Usually Hi, How are you. Or Yes, I would like to chat.

English. Doing great. Do you have whatsapp?

Spanish - ¿Tienes whatsapp?

Most of the time she will answer with her number right away. Some will not respond and some will respond that they want to chat on SA. I did continue those chats.

WhatsApp. If her response is generic.

Me. Hello - its Jack Taggart from SA.

Her. Hi.

Me. Planetrees maybe, but pretty quickly right to the point. I am looking to meet up and have a few drinks. If all goes well have sex.

Her. She generally agrees.

Me. Would 200 mil for a 2 hour meet be good?

Her. Yes or she asks for a slightly higher amount, or she laughs at you and asks for 300 USD+.

From there I had opportunity to meet up either that day or the next day. I had 4 hits like this on my first day in Bogota and I obviously could not accomodate that.

If you are only in Bogota for a short time. This should be your strategy. I met up with an amazing girl within a couple of days with maybe 15 minutes of effort. All in with casting my net wide it was maybe 2 hours of effort for my first meet up and to line up many others. So I think that is very much worth it.

Whatsapp. If she responds and is chatty and asks substantive questions. Also only if she speaks English since I do not speak Spanish.

I had good luck in engaging when the girl actually wants to talk. I will fully admit that I am an optimist and am looking for additional drinks / hanging out. Since I will also be in Bogota so often, I am also OK with a pretty female friend that likes to have fun. Maybe we just have a good time.

Maybe it leads to more. Maybe she has friends. I like the ideas but I did not have enough time in to see how things pan out on this trip with the many leads. Since I plan on having a lot of spare time though on my next couple of trips, this aspect is worth working for me. A couple girls stopped.

Responding when it was clear we could not meet right away. A couple others were cool with talking when I came back.

I had the opportunity to line up dates with multiple of these girls and while time only permitted to meet up with one in this category, I had so much fun I met up with her two more times.

In terms of the actual meeting, I am going to repeat some advice but I figure it makes sense for someone that might not be reading back through hundrends of pages.

1) Check in a couple of hours before your agreed upon meeting time. She will forgot or lose track of time.

2) Check in about an hour before your agreed upon meeting time to make sure she will be on time. It will likley take an hour for her to travel to you. You will likley find out she needs transportation. I am starting to find out its better to just offer to send an uber to start. This also allows you to see the progress via the app.

3) I was hoping for bb, but did not ask after a lost date with an instagram model type that was good for 200,000 cop for 2 hours and we had a great rapport. Hours before our agreed upon meet, she asked "So do you use condoms". And I gave the too honest answer of "yes, but I would prefer not to and I am clean with recent results that I can show you" I was ghosted. I am sort of a dumbass sometimes. I probably should not have pulled that with a fluent english speaker and model type at that price.

[JackEnBogo]

If you are having issues with Coinbase or prefer a cash-only transaction, I can recommend the bitcoin ATM at Calle 64 #8-05. It's "Cajero Bitcoin" in google maps.

Before you go, create a bitcoin wallet for yourself. For example, download the edge app. Go to your bitcoin wallet and press Request so you can save a screenshot of your wallet address (2 D barcode and the text version so you can double check it).

Take your cash and wallet address to the bitcoin ATM. Let the machine scan in your wallet address barcode, input your cash, double check that your wallet address is correct, and press send / purchase to buy your coins. The employees are very helpful if you have a question or want them to verify that you're doing it correctly. You'll get your coins instantly and then you follow the directions on ISG to send your membership fee and activate it.

[Aureliano16]

So, this is the map of all the "casas", night-clubs, massage parlors, etc that I know and personally visited in my 3 month stay in Bogota:

http://www.colombiasexmap.com

I included the date of the last visit as well as the prices. It also has precise addresses and coordinates to open in google maps.

I was thinking maybe a list / table view would also be useful? Especially for mobile.

Anyway let me know what you guys think.

[JackTaggart]

If you are having issues with Coinbase or prefer a cash-only transaction, I can recommend the bitcoin ATM at Calle 64 #8-05. It's "Cajero Bitcoin" in google maps.

Before you go, create a bitcoin wallet for yourself. For example, download the edge app. Go to your bitcoin wallet and press Request so you can save a screenshot of your wallet address (2 D barcode and the text version so you can double check it).

Take your cash and wallet address to the bitcoin ATM. Let the machine scan in your wallet address barcode, input your cash, double check that your wallet address is correct, and press send / purchase to buy your coins. The employees are very helpful if you have a question or want them to verify that you're doing it correctly. You'll get your coins instantly and then you follow the directions on ISG to send your membership fee and activate it.I just wanted to add on that https://rockitcoin.com/ has a ton of ATM locations just like described above in the USA. I was able to sign up for an account and use cash to fund my wallet and easily pay for the subscription.

[June Fly]

Anyone have recommendations for decent massage spots here. I'm near Santa Fe. I know some 'massage' spots are terrible, so I'd prefer a place that does genuine massages at a decent budget, but also provides extra if that's where I feel like going.

Thanks!There are quite a few there. Sensity Spa, Loutron, Tantra Spa. I would check the earlier posts with map and lists.

[Elvis 2008]

1) Check in a couple of hours before your agreed upon meeting time. She will forgot or lose track of time.

2) Check in about an hour before your agreed upon meeting time to make sure she will be on time. It will likley take an hour for her to travel to you. You will likley find out she needs transportation. I am starting to find out its better to just offer to send an uber to start. This also allows you to see the progress via the app.That is good advice.


3) I was hoping for bb, but did not ask after a lost date with an instagram model type that was good for 200,000 cop for 2 hours and we had a great rapport. Hours before our agreed upon meet, she asked "So do you use condoms". And I gave the too honest answer of "yes, but I would prefer not to and I am clean with recent results that I can show you" I was ghosted. I am sort of a dumbass sometimes. I probably should not have pulled that with a fluent english speaker and model type at that price.Nah, you do not ask for BB. You go for it and make them request the condom. If your mindset is that you expect BB as I do, you will get it most of the time.


Me. Would 200 mil for a 2 hour meet be good?

Her. Yes or she asks for a slightly higher amount, or she laughs at you and asks for 300 USD+.Same thing here. Why are you initiating payment talk? To me, you should be trying to meet them without talk of payment. It is just what you are used to. If they bring up money and you want them, then talk cash but try not to. My best meets were when money was not discussed.

[Aureliano16]

Same thing here. Why are you initiating payment talk? To me, you should be trying to meet them without talk of payment. It is just what you are used to. If they bring up money and you want them, then talk cash but try not to. My best meets were when money was not discussed.But what do you do if in the meeting the girl asks for USD 300+ ?

You just leave? What a waste of time for both, I think the price, or at least some kind of range, is very important before meeting.

[LatinaLover#1]

But what do you do if in the meeting the girl asks for USD 300+ ?

You just leave? What a waste of time for both, I think the price, or at least some kind of range, is very important before meeting.When I read his M. O. It seemed to me he was making a lot of mistakes. All of that should be left for a face to face meeting. There is a tried and true saying in sales.

"you can't give them a haircut over the phone".

[Mr Enternational]

Why are you initiating payment talk? To me, you should be trying to meet them without talk of payment.Because he is looking to fuck. You are looking to go with the flow and let whatever happens happen; which may end with you leaving with a dry dick. He does not want to chance it and is looking for a sure thing.

[Elvis 2008]

But what do you do if in the meeting the girl asks for USD 300+ ?

You just leave? What a waste of time for both, I think the price, or at least some kind of range, is very important before meeting.I have had them ask for $300 one time and $800 another. If they do that, you say no thank you and go get laid at Santa Fe for $20 if you are horny.

A lot of the women I met in 2019 and 2020 had never been on the site and did not know what to expect and like I said, the best dates were when money was not discussed.

[Elvis 2008]

Because he is looking to fuck. You are looking to go with the flow and let whatever happens happen; which may end with you leaving with a dry dick. He does not want to chance it and is looking for a sure thing.It is Bogota. How do you not get laid there?

[LatinaLover#1]

Because he is looking to fuck. You are looking to go with the flow and let whatever happens happen; which may end with you leaving with a dry dick. He does not want to chance it and is looking for a sure thing.It doesn't matter what they ask for, only what you will pay. When negotiating face to face, you have the upper hand. They have already traveled to my apartment or to a close by bar or coffee shop so I didn't have to travel bus why transmillenio for 2 hours mas o menos, so THEY are more willing to accept a half a loaf than none, #2 you are looking at her, smell her perfume get a feel for the chemistry etc How can you decide what I will pay before seeing the product. So its ALWAYS better to negotiate face to face. I remember one time I met face to face with a very pretty, big tit girl who just graduated and got an entry level job as a lawyer. She asked for 350,000 cop, we settled on 200,000 One of the best girl friend sex I had for quite some time. I'm sure over the phone that would not have happened.

Also, you always have to be willing to walk! Back in the day I used prepagos, and it doesn't matter if it's Colombia Peru Brasil or CR I almost have never had a girl hit me with a price and didn't accept less, in fact they ALWAYS accept less. But on the phone or in text as they sit having a Caldo at her kitchen table it is very easy for her to hold firm, after all they have not invested any effort or time into the equation. You can choose to utilize the advice or not, ti's your dime. Be safe!

[HumbleHal]

Are the clubs closed early on Friday, all day Saturday and Sunday?

[AllisLost81]

Here are some reviews of the clubs I visited in no particular order. Troyas. I like this club. Strip shows are happening all the time. Got a couple of lap dances. Most of the girls will leave you alone unless you somehow make some kind of contact with them. Maybe a smile or staring at them too long. Prices. I don't drink so mostly coke or water which came out to $10,000 cop. I bought a lady drink and it was $13,000 cop. Totally worth it since the it took the girl about half an hour to finish it and many lap dances during this time although not nude. I was told for the fully nude lap dance you need to buy a bottle. Since I don't drink no bottle service for me and didn't ask the price for the bottle. I did take one girl up, maybe I should say lady since she said she was 30 years old. Forgot her name but the vets will probably know who she is since she says she works everyday but leaves early around 7-8:00 at night. She has blond hair and is a little thick but was alot of fun upstairs. The cost to take her up was $60,000 cop. She did not rush and didn't ask for payment, so I payed at the end. No shower but she had wipes to clean up with. The cleanup girl did ask for a tip so I gave her $2,000 cop. Here is a question for anyone. My friend took a vennie from here. She told him $100,000 cop. When they got up, they went to the bar first and he told me she gave the bartender $20,000. Then they went upstairs where she asked for the money up front. The question here, is why did she pay the bartender $20,000?

Fiebre. Another stripclub with good talent. My coke was $10,000 and the lady drinks were the same price of what we pay. To take a girl up was between $150,000 to $200,000 cop. Yes it's more expensive than Troyas. I took a girl named Scarlett upstairs. She asked for $150,00 and was well worth it. She was one of the stripper and a body to die for..I am typing this up directly from my first night out in Bogota 4/13/22. I went to 4 different clubs including Troyas, Paisas and 2 other random spots recommended by the Uber. Every single spot charged 50,000 for Beer and 30,000 for soda, juice or water. 1 Dance was 50,000 and taking a girl upstairs was 500,000 k. When was the last time you were in Santa Fe? It seems the gangster have all gotten together and fixed the prices because it was insane paying $50 for 2 beers and a water with my 2 friends and the prices were exactly the same all 4 places we went.

[Woodman09]

I am typing this up directly from my first night out in Bogota 4/13/22. I went to 4 different clubs including Troyas, Paisas and 2 other random spots recommended by the Uber. Every single spot charged 50,000 for Beer and 30,000 for soda, juice or water. 1 Dance was 50,000 and taking a girl upstairs was 500,000 k. When was the last time you were in Santa Fe? It seems the gangster have all gotten together and fixed the prices because it was insane paying $50 for 2 beers and a water with my 2 friends and the prices were exactly the same all 4 places we went.Sorry to hear about that-- sounds like the waiters you got conned you as those prices are highly inflated. Beers are 8-10 mil or were last week.

[Woodman09]

I am typing this up directly from my first night out in Bogota 4/13/22. I went to 4 different clubs including Troyas, Paisas and 2 other random spots recommended by the Uber. Every single spot charged 50,000 for Beer and 30,000 for soda, juice or water. 1 Dance was 50,000 and taking a girl upstairs was 500,000 k. When was the last time you were in Santa Fe? It seems the gangster have all gotten together and fixed the prices because it was insane paying $50 for 2 beers and a water with my 2 friends and the prices were exactly the same all 4 places we went.Sorry to hear about that-- sounds like the waiters you got conned you as those prices are highly inflated. Beers are 8-10 mil or -- And a typical trip upstairs is 70-120 mil + or more-- These prices from last week.

[QuackUp]

I am typing this up directly from my first night out in Bogota 4/13/22. I went to 4 different clubs including Troyas, Paisas and 2 other random spots recommended by the Uber. Every single spot charged 50,000 for Beer and 30,000 for soda, juice or water. 1 Dance was 50,000 and taking a girl upstairs was 500,000 k. When was the last time you were in Santa Fe? It seems the gangster have all gotten together and fixed the prices because it was insane paying $50 for 2 beers and a water with my 2 friends and the prices were exactly the same all 4 places we went.Hi Allislost, sorry your experience was so bad. I got back April 5th and I did my writeup so anyone new would at least have a mild idea of pricing there. If those guys quoted me those prices, I would have just walked out. One thing I noticed in some of the clubs was that on the weekend, the waiters would have uniforms on with numbers for ID. The other days the waiters wore just regular clothes. Not sure if that makes a difference but I do like it when they have a uniform on, just so I could see his number just in case something comes up.

[Stinger]

Was there today 1-2. Less than 10 girls on the street. None worth it. More touts than men walking around. Don't bother.

[SonicBoom1]

Thanks to many other posts about SA in the past, I was able to get a good idea of a good approach to start. There have been a couple really good posts about the actual SA experiences so I am going to more focus on the mechanics of using it and the dates for now. I will probably make another post after about the dates later. I want to share with you guys what seemed to work well on my first try. For reference. I am a late 30's guy that is more or less HWP. I would not consider myself the most attractive man in the world. I speak zero Spanish and like a GFE experience. I am looking for a combination of one night stands and to find a few regular girls that I can see when I am in Bogota many times per year. Given my situation, I am willing to invest some additional time for the diamonds in the rough.

I signed up for SA 2 weeks ahead of time and started browsing and favoriting girls. No messages from them. My profile was in English and real basic about having work in Bogota. Culture, food, and fun. I did not start messaging until I was in Bogota. This is the script I followed. I ignored most of the Instagram models and girls that had tags for only luxury life and travel on their profile..Great report on how to use SA. Thank you!

[HumbleHal]

Was there today 1-2. Less than 10 girls on the street. None worth it. More touts than men walking around. Don't bother.Same experience in the Dom Rep and Cartagena. All Spanish / Catholic countries celebrate Easter as a big deal. Girls go home to be with their families, like during Christmas. They will be back a week after Easter.

[JjBee62]

I am typing this up directly from my first night out in Bogota 4/13/22. I went to 4 different clubs including Troyas, Paisas and 2 other random spots recommended by the Uber. Every single spot charged 50,000 for Beer and 30,000 for soda, juice or water. 1 Dance was 50,000 and taking a girl upstairs was 500,000 k. When was the last time you were in Santa Fe? It seems the gangster have all gotten together and fixed the prices because it was insane paying $50 for 2 beers and a water with my 2 friends and the prices were exactly the same all 4 places we went.Did your Uber driver go inside with you and tell you what the prices were?

[JackTaggart]

When I read his M. O. It seemed to me he was making a lot of mistakes. All of that should be left for a face to face meeting. There is a tried and true saying in sales.

"you can't give them a haircut over the phone".I certainly do not take any offense to any of the criticism here, but I do want to clarify. I put the girls into two different buckets (listed below) depending on their responses. On this trip I did not have a lot of time for wasted meetings and I also was not staying at a very girl friendly place, so I couldn't cycle through dates without having to start booking hotel rooms at additional expense. I am doing more research and planning things differently for my next trip which will be for about 6 weeks with a lot fewer business obligations. I do have a lot to learn though since this was my first trip trying this, so I appreciate the feedback. My 1st trip to Bogota was just a single high end club and I had no idea of anything in the city. My 2nd was a single visit to Santa Fe guided by Woodman and still little to no understanding of the city. My 3rd was the past experiences I have been sharing.

A) The girls that the talk went quick to money it was all through WhatsApp and it got me a quick result with an incredibly hot girl that spoke English. Any that asked for hundreds of USD I just said no thanks and moved on. So essentially zero lost time and a guaranteed result.

B) The girls that the talk did not go to money we had lots of good conversations on WhatsApp and I had the opportunity to line up dates with no talk of money. I only met with one of them (multiple times) due to time limitations and she wants absolutely nothing from me so far. I did pay for our meals and paid for her uber one night though because it was late and she was going to take the mass transit. I have plans to meet up with the remaining ones when I go back in May.

So anyways. I put some effort into the A category due to my very limited time / unpredictable work schedule and my lack of girl friendly accommodations. B category is going to get more effort next trip.

[Aureliano16]

I am typing this up directly from my first night out in Bogota 4/13/22. I went to 4 different clubs including Troyas, Paisas and 2 other random spots recommended by the Uber. Every single spot charged 50,000 for Beer and 30,000 for soda, juice or water. 1 Dance was 50,000 and taking a girl upstairs was 500,000 k. When was the last time you were in Santa Fe? It seems the gangster have all gotten together and fixed the prices because it was insane paying $50 for 2 beers and a water with my 2 friends and the prices were exactly the same all 4 places we went.Many places in Bogota have fixed higher prices to con customers that clearly look like foreigners. That would explain how they all offered you the same inflated prices. I recommend to go back with a Colombian looking male friend, that way they probably will charge the standard rate. BTW check this map for the fair prices charged for locals: http://colombiasexmap.com/.

I've never been quoted more than 100 k in SF and I was there this year, several times. But I know some girls can charge up to 150 k.

500 k is insane. Definitely a con.

[WorldTrvlr29]

Hello guys,

Been following for weeks and have gone for ages to Colombia but I don't know what "SA" stands for.

Can someone help me on this?

Thank you.

[Woodman09]

Hello guys,

Been following for weeks and have gone for ages to Colombia but I don't know what "SA" stands for.

Can someone help me on this?

Thank you.Seeking Arrangement.

[FlashShaker]

Seeking Arrangement.Talking about SA, let me share a little experience I had with one of them. Back in rookie days, had this one girl come to see me in BOG. She traveled 3. 5 h which I tried on several occasions to discourage her from doing but to no avail. She wanted to spend the weekend (fri. Sun 4 p'ish) to take the bus home. Problem was after she got there, she wanted all the GF benefits / treatments but wasnt willing to fuck. She gave a uber quick reluctant CBJ after much pressure then finished with a HJ. Claimed she was tired and didn't feel like having sex that night. Ok. Sat night after spending all day together + money, she tried to pull the same stunt. It was late, we had drinks so I was ready for action. She tried to refuse and offered CBJ. No thanks. It got to a point where I was like we fuckin or you leavin tonight. She thought I was joking until I called the lobby to have them send security to escort her out the room. Security showed up, she tried to explain her way out of it but eventually they told her she would need to leave if I asked her to. Long story short, she couldn't leave. Had no where to go so I banged the shit out of her. Next morning banged her again then after breakfast kicked her out. Never gave her any money either. No morals to the story but just an experience.

[JjBee62]

Talking about SA, let me share a little experience I had with one of them. Back in rookie days, had this one girl come to see me in BOG. She traveled 3. 5 h which I tried on several occasions to discourage her from doing but to no avail. She wanted to spend the weekend (fri. Sun 4 p'ish) to take the bus home. Problem was after she got there, she wanted all the GF benefits / treatments but wasnt willing to fuck. She gave a uber quick reluctant CBJ after much pressure then finished with a HJ. Claimed she was tired and didn't feel like having sex that night. Ok. Sat night after spending all day together + money, she tried to pull the same stunt. It was late, we had drinks so I was ready for action. She tried to refuse and offered CBJ. No thanks. It got to a point where I was like we fuckin or you leavin tonight. She thought I was joking until I called the lobby to have them send security to escort her out the room. Security showed up, she tried to explain her way out of it but eventually they told her she would need to leave if I asked her to. Long story short, she couldn't leave. Had no where to go so I banged the shit out of her. Next morning banged her again then after breakfast kicked her out. Never gave her any money either. No morals to the story but just an experience.The moral of the story is that you don't tell someone where you're staying until you're giving them an address to come fuck you. If they try to push their way into coming to stay with you, you block them. Any girl nutty enough to travel that far to spend the weekend with someone she's never met and hasn't specifically agreed to fuck (for a price) isn't someone you should ever let into your hotel room.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Talking about SA, let me share a little experience I had with one of them. Back in rookie days, had this one girl come to see me in BOG. She traveled 3. 5 h which I tried on several occasions to discourage her from doing but to no avail. She wanted to spend the weekend (fri. Sun 4 p'ish) to take the bus home. Problem was after she got there, she wanted all the GF benefits / treatments but wasnt willing to fuck. She gave a uber quick reluctant CBJ after much pressure then finished with a HJ. Claimed she was tired and didn't feel like having sex that night. Ok. Sat night after spending all day together + money, she tried to pull the same stunt. It was late, we had drinks so I was ready for action. She tried to refuse and offered CBJ. No thanks. It got to a point where I was like we fuckin or you leavin tonight. She thought I was joking until I called the lobby to have them send security to escort her out the room. Security showed up, she tried to explain her way out of it but eventually they told her she would need to leave if I asked her to. Long story short, she couldn't leave. Had no where to go so I banged the shit out of her. Next morning banged her again then after breakfast kicked her out. Never gave her any money either. No morals to the story but just an experience.There is hope for the men in this world afterall LOL.

At least some us.

Muchas gracias senor.

Post script advise.

Never let this shit start in the 1st place.

No CBJs, ever.

Or show her the door within the 1st five minutes, nip it in the bud, quickly.

[Mr Enternational]

she wanted all the GF benefits / treatments but wasnt willing to fuck. Claimed she was tired and didn't feel like having sex that night. Sat night after spending all day together + money, she tried to pull the same stunt. It got to a point where I was like we fuckin or you leavin tonight. Security showed up, she tried to explain her way out of it but eventually they told her she would need to leave if I asked her to. Long story short, she couldn't leave. Had no where to go so I banged the shit out of her. Next morning banged her again then after breakfast kicked her out. Never gave her any money either.I get it. You were too tired to give her money. They never realize those statemements can come back to bite them in the ass.

[Cm6363]

Does anyone know frist hand or from previous years' experience what are the pickings at Santa Fe or Mezzanie today? Thanks.

[BearEmy84]

Does anyone know frist hand or from previous years' experience what are the pickings at Santa Fe or Mezzanie today? Thanks.Not sure about Mezzanie or SF, but I did a round of the casas in Chapinero around 5 after the rain. Didn't see men or chicas outside the casas. Wasn't in the mood to try going in.

[Williston]

Hi friends!

I am an experienced traveler to Medellin. I have been there many times but I am now looking at moving to Bogota for a year or possibly more. I have a fairly simply question.

I would like to live in an area that's at least somewhat decent for an ex-pat but also with options to walk or short cab ride to monger options. In Medellin I would say the Laureles neighborhood is great for this. Fairly safe and quiet but with tons of working women options all over the area.

What would you guys suggest for Bogota?

[Woodman09]

Hi friends!

I am an experienced traveler to Medellin. I have been there many times but I am now looking at moving to Bogota for a year or possibly more. I have a fairly simply question.

I would like to live in an area that's at least somewhat decent for an ex-pat but also with options to walk or short cab ride to monger options. In Medellin I would say the Laureles neighborhood is great for this. Fairly safe and quiet but with tons of working women options all over the area.

What would you guys suggest for Bogota?I would suggest Chapinero-- Many casas there and 4-5 miles from Santa Fe. Chapinero is a big area.

[Zeos1]

Talking about SA, let me share a little experience I had with one of them. Back in rookie days, had this one girl come to see me in BOG. She traveled 3. 5 h which I tried on several occasions to discourage her from doing but to no avail. She wanted to spend the weekend (fri. Sun 4 p'ish) to take the bus home. Problem was after she got there, she wanted all the GF benefits / treatments but wasnt willing to fuck. She gave a uber quick reluctant CBJ after much pressure then finished with a HJ. Claimed she was tired and didn't feel like having sex that night. Ok. Sat night after spending all day together + money, she tried to pull the same stunt. It was late, we had drinks so I was ready for action. She tried to refuse and offered CBJ. No thanks. It got to a point where I was like we fuckin or you leavin tonight. She thought I was joking until I called the lobby to have them send security to escort her out the room. Security showed up, she tried to explain her way out of it but eventually they told her she would need to leave if I asked her to. Long story short, she couldn't leave. Had no where to go so I banged the shit out of her. Next morning banged her again then after breakfast kicked her out. Never gave her any money either. No morals to the story but just an experience.Hmmm. A problem with the sugar baby type thing, they often do get benefits without putting out sex, or at least until later in the relationship So you should hope that she doesn't reframe this as an assault, and hope that she does not have any way of having the authorities track you down, if she does take it that way.

Giving her money, no forcing her to take money, may have been something you should have done. At least then you might be able to defend your thinking that it was about sex for money.

[LatinaLover#1]

Hi friends!

I am an experienced traveler to Medellin. I have been there many times but I am now looking at moving to Bogota for a year or possibly more. I have a fairly simply question.

I would like to live in an area that's at least somewhat decent for an ex-pat but also with options to walk or short cab ride to monger options. In Medellin I would say the Laureles neighborhood is great for this. Fairly safe and quiet but with tons of working women options all over the area.

What would you guys suggest for Bogota?In Bogota I like Chico Norte. A short taxi, Uber or indriver ride away from most areas you can monger. Anything you need is close by, restaurants, banks, ATM's etc. SF is a short ride away as are many casas and Mezzanine. There are 2 excellent malls close by, Andino and Unicentro Bogota. The best thing I like about this area is if I want to go out later in the night to get some wine or beer or something to eat is it's relatively safe to do so. I won't stay in an area that I would not feel safe going out at 10 pm to a tienda. Stay safe.

[Ggekko2009]

Hi friends!

I am an experienced traveler to Medellin. I have been there many times but I am now looking at moving to Bogota for a year or possibly more. I have a fairly simply question.

I would like to live in an area that's at least somewhat decent for an ex-pat but also with options to walk or short cab ride to monger options. In Medellin I would say the Laureles neighborhood is great for this. Fairly safe and quiet but with tons of working women options all over the area.

What would you guys suggest for Bogota?Anywhere near Parque El Virrey or Zona T are good. It's a more upscale neighborhood with proximities to many good restaurants and places to eat. Also pretty quiet and safe neighborhood too.

[MaddTraveler]

It doesn't matter what they ask for, only what you will pay. When negotiating face to face, you have the upper hand. They have already traveled to my apartment or to a close by bar or coffee shop so I didn't have to travel bus why transmillenio for 2 hours mas o menos, so THEY are more willing to accept a half a loaf than none, #2 you are looking at her, smell her perfume get a feel for the chemistry etc How can you decide what I will pay before seeing the product. So its ALWAYS better to negotiate face to face. I remember one time I met face to face with a very pretty, big tit girl who just graduated and got an entry level job as a lawyer. She asked for 350,000 cop, we settled on 200,000 One of the best girl friend sex I had for quite some time. I'm sure over the phone that would not have happened.You are 100% correct and this should be a Top Post.

The truth is us mongers are usually the ones who teach these girls how to become hookers. There's a long history on how we've influenced or fueled this hobby in those countries, especially when they ask for USD instead of pesos; that comes from us introducing it, in other words from the fucking SIMPS. For ex, I personally know some Colombians that started on FB for the first time, and a tourist would contact them to immediately solicit for 250 k or in USD for an hour. First, she was new, she would likely fuck him for free, didn't know anything about hourly, would other fuck for a dinner date or just drinks, or would happily take 50 k as a tip to go home and would be thrilled to have an American connection / Fetish / Sugar daddy / Friend or whatever foreigner fantasy these girls have. So basically we train them on the hobby. At least many of them. So next time a guy offers her 100 k she would say no, and slightly flexible around 200 k or so.

So with what you wrote above is very true in my extensive experience with COL, CR, DR, Anywhere. It works well on newb / non-pros or semi-pros, as hardcore putas always start with their pricing upfront which is ok and I simply treat those as if I was in a brothel. But as far as others, you should NEVER talk price ahead of time on WhatsApp or messenger, it's always best to meet first. So I'm big on SA, Tinder, FB, Cupid, you name it. Many are clear on wanting serious rel and no money will be mentioned of course before or after, then the questionable ones that are leading toward Friends w Benefit. Just don't mention any amount too quickly. For those who come up with it or ask, it's ok, and once I get the feeling after we meet that they're about their money I negotiate accordingly. But honestly by not talking money upfront, you'll have a high % like 50% or higher that will either not take any money, or not a formal hooker and will surprise you with some hot sex of which you'll feel like you've taken advantage of when she's walking away with nothing LOL. Many will call you tomorrow with a fam urgency for you to help LOL, but then it's ok and your opportunity to offer what you want in that friendship.

Just ask for a date, and throughout the convo of course mention how you want to spoil her, how you want to have fun, want to make friends, etc. Then we'd meet over drinks, cheap lunches, then go fuck. Some I would offer $0, some would ask for taxi money, some would make excuses that their rent is due and you can basically help however you want, 100-200 k and they're usually super happy. But I make sure they come back for some banging first, spend the night, then go back w that cash. If you take them shopping be sure that they've earned it or worked for it. Don't just spend on them on the first date without banging first outside of drinks / food LOL. You'll be surprised how many bad bitches you'll fuck especially in Col that way with zero money exchanges or obligation.

Now the possible problems. The common issue in this approach is many guys imagine well what if we finish fucking and she said her fee is 500 USD, then you're obligated to pay or police, problems, etc. Yes this fear is certainly why some argue the need to have pricing set upfront and in writing. But here's how to avoid that. You need to somehow make sure she's no ho, no hardcore pro. Ask politely like "Do you offer sex for money" "Are you a. "dama de compañía", Some will even take offense like college students and business / family oriented women, and you can use that if they later claim cash for sex. SIMPLE! You can do that by either asking her upfront during chat, take a screenshot and save for yourself from her profile if she says she's looking for boyfriend, husband, relacion en serio, etc. No ***** can come to accuse you of not paying if her profile clearly says she's looking for a boyfriend. Boyfriends don't pay for sex. Again, the focus and your target is after those new girls or non experienced ones or non / semi pros that are easy to bend or willing to commit to a relationship or friends with benefit arrangements, that love to hang, not watching clocks, etc. Stay away from anyone with fake pics, Instagram type model, partially nudes, fake bodies. And that still leaves you thousands. MDE and BOG are full of those and not enough men LOL. So schedule multiple dates daily if you can.

Happy Hunting.

[LatinaLover#1]

You are 100% correct and this should be a Top Post.

The truth is us mongers are usually the ones who teach these girls how to become hookers. There's a long history on how we've influenced or fueled this hobby in those countries, especially when they ask for USD instead of pesos; that comes from us introducing it, in other words from the fucking SIMPS. For ex, I personally know some Colombians that started on FB for the first time, and a tourist would contact them to immediately solicit for 250 k or in USD for an hour. First, she was new, she would likely fuck him for free, didn't know anything about hourly, would other fuck for a dinner date or just drinks, or would happily take 50 k as a tip to go home and would be thrilled to have an American connection / Fetish / Sugar daddy / Friend or whatever foreigner fantasy these girls have. So basically we train them on the hobby. At least many of them. So next time a guy offers her 100 k she would say no, and slightly flexible around 200 k or so.

So with what you wrote above is very true in my extensive experience with COL, CR, DR, Anywhere. It works well on newb / non-pros or semi-pros, as hardcore putas always start with their pricing upfront which is ok and I simply treat those as if I was in a brothel. But as far as others, you should NEVER talk price ahead of time on WhatsApp or messenger, it's always best to meet first. So I'm big on SA, Tinder, FB, Cupid, you name it. Many are clear on wanting serious rel and no money will be mentioned of course before or after, then the questionable ones that are leading toward Friends w Benefit. Just don't mention any amount too quickly. For those who come up with it or ask, it's ok, and once I get the feeling after we meet that they're about their money I negotiate accordingly. But honestly by not talking money upfront, you'll have a high % like 50% or higher that will either not take any money, or not a formal hooker and will surprise you with some hot sex of which you'll feel like you've taken advantage of when she's walking away with nothing LOL. Many will call you tomorrow with a fam urgency for you to help LOL, but then it's ok and your opportunity to offer what you want in that friendship.

Just ask for a date, and throughout the convo of course mention how you want to spoil her, how you want to have fun, want to make friends, etc. Then we'd meet over drinks, cheap lunches, then go fuck. Some I would offer $0, some would ask for taxi money, some would make excuses that their rent is due and you can basically help however you want, 100-200 k and they're usually super happy. But I make sure they come back for some banging first, spend the night, then go back w that cash. If you take them shopping be sure that they've earned it or worked for it. Don't just spend on them on the first date without banging first outside of drinks / food LOL. You'll be surprised how many bad bitches you'll fuck especially in Col that way with zero money exchanges or obligation.

Now the possible problems. The common issue in this approach is many guys imagine well what if we finish fucking and she said her fee is 500 USD, then you're obligated to pay or police, problems, etc. Yes this fear is certainly why some argue the need to have pricing set upfront and in writing. But here's how to avoid that. You need to somehow make sure she's no ho, no hardcore pro. Ask politely like "Do you offer sex for money" "Are you a. "dama de compaa", Some will even take offense like college students and business / family oriented women, and you can use that if they later claim cash for sex. SIMPLE! You can do that by either asking her upfront during chat, take a screenshot and save for yourself from her profile if she says she's looking for boyfriend, husband, relacion en serio, etc. No ***** can come to accuse you of not paying if her profile clearly says she's looking for a boyfriend. Boyfriends don't pay for sex. Again, the focus and your target is after those new girls or non experienced ones or non / semi pros that are easy to bend or willing to commit to a relationship or friends with benefit arrangements, that love to hang, not watching clocks, etc. Stay away from anyone with fake pics, Instagram type model, partially nudes, fake bodies. And that still leaves you thousands. MDE and BOG are full of those and not enough men LOL. So schedule multiple dates daily if you can.

Happy Hunting.I always try to weed out the pros, but if you are with a pro you need to be very upfront with what you want and how much it will be. Unfortunately the hard core pros will often get amnesia when it comes time for sans condom in the room, it's at that point I broom them, give them taxi money and move on. I can guarantee when you meet up with type of working girl the session will always be bad. Better to move on. Remember "Women are like buses, another one comes along in 5 minutes" Also when dealing with a chipper, non-pro, It's not a bad idea during the qualifying stage that you say something like, I understand how difficult life can be for a single mom, or student and you can use little help now and then. At least they know you understand what makes the world go round and know how things work in Bogota. Stay safe!

[MaddTraveler]

I always try to weed out the pros, but if you are with a pro you need to be very upfront with what you want and how much it will be. Unfortunately the hard core pros will often get amnesia when it comes time for sans condom in the room, it's at that point I broom them, give them taxi money and move on. I can guarantee when you meet up with type of working girl the session will always be bad. Better to move on. Remember "Women are like buses, another one comes along in 5 minutes" Also when dealing with a chipper, non-pro, It's not a bad idea during the qualifying stage that you say something like, I understand how difficult life can be for a single mom, or student and you can use little help now and then. At least they know you understand what makes the world go round and know how things work in Bogota. Stay safe..Absolutely bro, we got similar game, who knows I prob learned from you or bumped into you LOL. Many guys don't understand this like you said, if they drove and came over it will be their loss to not say yes or be flexible on what you ask. Pros are pros and our start don't always work on them and it's all good. I send them home quickly also when payment is asked for upfront or only CBJ. I'm happy to pay 50-100 k for them to leave if they turn me off. I only accept CBJ in casas / brothel sometimes, but w rapport building and dating / social skills and I always get BBBJ from my regulars so I can afford to say No. I go full bareback w most of my SA / FB amigas / novias / wives LOL, no clock watching, often overnight. I'm usually pretty honest and do connect with most as real friends, listen to their problems, about their families, acknowledge their situation and share what's going on with my life as well, we connect as two human beings and don't treat them as an object. That's what rapport / relationship building is and sex is easy at that point if that's your goal. Just don't get too emotionally involved or too wrapped up cause some have some reaaaaaal deep and crazy dramas. But women are women, p4 p or not, connecting on a personal level goes a long way.

When I'm on vaca usually solo, if I go intimately w 2 or 3 at most daily and only pay hourly, wtf am I going to do with the other 21-22 hrs? Stay alone or hang in bars? I'd rather have a chica friend over to hang out, smoke, drink, cook, take pics, chill by the pool, go shopping, watch tv. Kill time with you on your vacation.

[Stinger]

Went to Santa Fe today at 2 PM- holy shit. In the main 2 blocks of Santa Fe, where the clubs are, there were probably almost 100 police officers in riot gear- helmets, M4's, no cars or motorcycles allowed in. Just a few blocks away, on the "South Stroll" there were none, but I only noticed that as I rode away in the bus. I walked the two blocks a couple of times and left. Most of the girls were kind of inside the buildings and garages and clubs. Came by there in the opposite direction at 6 PM and it was still locked down. I have no idea what happened- my Spanish is not good, so I did not ask. They had an officer posted with his back to the wall about every 4-5 doors within the blocks. A few people were walking around, but I thought only bad could happen, so I left.

[Stinger]

After leaving Santa Fe, my backup was to go to Adrianaygolosas at her new location opposite the Alqueria Bus Station. She has an interesting site and posts videos on a lot of the internet porn sites, but I had never been until today. It is your basic brothel. I haven't had much luck with Photoprepagos and bringing someone to my hotel is problematic. I thought I had one lined up today and then was ghosted. So, Santa Fe, then that did not work out. So, not sure what I would find, I headed to Adriana's. It is a 3 story bldg where you buzz in at street level, and climb to the 2nd floor. She has the whole 2nd and 3rd floor. They had 4 there and did a lineup. The lineup also included sitting on my lap so I could get a feel for their rear ends. So I told Adriana which one I wanted and she left. Then she came back with a smile and asked me if I would make a porn video. Wow, the little head said yes and the big head wanted more info. She said uncovered BJ with 2 girls and would not show my face. She had the wickedest smile on her face because she knew I would relent. I was also concerned because I am average size and did not want to disappoint. It was with 2 of the 3 I did not pick. They marched me up to the 3rd floor and put me in a robe and I sat in a big wide easy chair. Adriana was just to my left with her cell phone capturing the action close up. I couldn't believe I was actually doing this after the way the day started. Every wave of pleasure caused me to look into Adriana's eyes from maybe 18 inches away and she would give me that knowing smile. It went on longer than I thought I could last and then she gave me the signal to finish it up. In one girls's mouth, then all over everywhere, with Adriana sticking her head in at the end to kiss my dick. She had said there was no extra charge for this. The fee is 140 k Colombian pesos for 1 hour. I figured I was done, but they cleaned me up and marched me down the hallway to the young lady I picked. She gave me a complete body oil massage, using one of those little hand rollers too. Then we started making out again and she sucked me uncovered. Didn't even ask if I wanted a condom. Then we did the rest with the only difference being I can't finish twice in that short of a time. I asked if I could tip all 3 and she said I was only allowed to tip her. I asked Adriana what she was going to do with the video and she wrote on the translator that she would find somewhere to post it. She has got the wickedest smile and sense of knowing what you need. I am definitely going back. As to the quality of the ladies, you can see on her website that she has all shapes. What made this unexpected adventure so great though is that the women I ran into there seem to truly enjoy working for her. They were smiling a lot and happy. I think I may have gone a few minutes over the hour and no one said anything. Compare that to Santa Fe where they are knocking on the door sometimes 15 minutes or less after you go in and everything is a race to the finish.

[FlashShaker]

Hmmm. A problem with the sugar baby type thing, they often do get benefits without putting out sex, or at least until later in the relationship So you should hope that she doesn't reframe this as an assault, and hope that she does not have any way of having the authorities track you down, if she does take it that way.

Giving her money, no forcing her to take money, may have been something you should have done. At least then you might be able to defend your thinking that it was about sex for money.I def hear + understand your POV and it could've happened but didn't (Thanks God). It would be hard for me to frame the context / atmosphere in the room that night but truly there was no pressure. She spoke little / basic english and understand as good as I understand spanish (speaking slowly). It was more like, 'look, I am not satisfied with a CBJ or HJ, I want sex with you' . 'but if you still feel you are not ready then you should leave' . There's no point having you sleep in my bed for a second night etc. "So, at this point, it's best you leave. Then there's some back and forth about how she can't leave, there are no buses, she doesn't know people in BOG etc. So I called the lobby and asked to have her escorted out of the room. 20 minutes later, it was clear she would need to go. So she came to her senses and said she wants to stay. She actually apologize for the drama she caused and blah blah blah and it was all settled. Next morning, sex again, no resistance and no complaining.

Main reason I gave her no money was because I had already spent on her on Saturday. She didn't have appropriate clothing for the weather so had to buy stuff (jacket, sweater, some sweats etc) just to be out and about. She came with only a pair shoes then the heel broke while we were walking down in La Candelaria. Walked into Adidas outlet and paid for a pair of "tennis" as she called them.

Honestly, this girl was very pretty, had a really nice body and we vibed very well. She really took most of my attn on SA - whatsapp. But attitude in person was a bit standoffish. She clearly had this misconception of being better than other girls. She likes foreigners and clearly enjoyed spending their money but seemed to have a problem giving it up. All in all, this is back in late 2020 IIRC. Been back to BOG like 8 x since.

[Woodman09]

Went to Santa Fe today at 2 PM- holy shit. In the main 2 blocks of Santa Fe, where the clubs are, there were probably almost 100 police officers in riot gear- helmets, M4's, no cars or motorcycles allowed in. Just a few blocks away, on the "South Stroll" there were none, but I only noticed that as I rode away in the bus. I walked the two blocks a couple of times and left. Most of the girls were kind of inside the buildings and garages and clubs. Came by there in the opposite direction at 6 PM and it was still locked down. I have no idea what happened- my Spanish is not good, so I did not ask. They had an officer posted with his back to the wall about every 4-5 doors within the blocks. A few people were walking around, but I thought only bad could happen, so I left.I don't know what's going on there- There were squads of machine gun toting soldiers. Someone I know said there was an incident involving a gun yesterday or today-- It was not clear.

Everything North of 22nd was ordered closed. We actually walked a bit south and the tranny area was open with clubs and bars open-- the South Stroll was closing down when we walked out.

There were street girls still out, not a whole lot-- All clubs were closed. The police were not stopping people from walking around and we walked the strolls but the streets were shut down.

[LatinaLover#1]

I don't know what's going on there- There were squads of machine gun toting soldiers. Someone I know said there was an incident involving a gun yesterday or today-- It was not clear.

Everything North of 22nd was ordered closed. We actually walked a bit south and the tranny area was open with clubs and bars open-- the South Stroll was closing down when we walked out.

There were street girls still out, not a whole lot-- All clubs were closed. The police were not stopping people from walking around and we walked the strolls but the streets were shut down.I'm sure it was a lot more to it than involving a gun. A gun happens a lot in Bogota and your lucky if you get to tell your story at the Fiscalia. There had to be a lot more to that kind of response than just a gun. We should get to the bottom of it soon.

[LatinaLover#1]

A soldier in the National Army was on patrol. The victim was part of a group of eight soldiers guarding the area to verify compliance with the recent security measures ordered by Mayor Claudia López, in response to the terrorist alert that was known in the city. I don't know if the rifle was ever recovered.

The crime must be really bad when they have the balls to steal a rifle from a group of 8 in the military army. LOL only in Colombia.

[Zeos1]

I def hear + understand your POV and it could've happened but didn't (Thanks God). It would be hard for me to frame the context / atmosphere in the room that night but truly there was no pressure. She spoke little / basic english and understand as good as I understand spanish (speaking slowly). It was more like, 'look, I am not satisfied with a CBJ or HJ, I want sex with you' . 'but if you still feel you are not ready then you should leave' . There's no point having you sleep in my bed for a second night etc. "So, at this point, it's best you leave. Then there's some back and forth about how she can't leave, there are no buses, she doesn't know people in BOG etc. So I called the lobby and asked to have her escorted out of the room. 20 minutes later, it was clear she would need to go. So she came to her senses and said she wants to stay. She actually apologize for the drama she caused and blah blah blah and it was all settled. Next morning, sex again, no resistance and no complaining.

Main reason I gave her no money was because I had already spent on her on Saturday. She didn't have appropriate clothing for the weather so had to buy stuff (jacket, sweater, some sweats etc) just to be out and about. She came with only a pair shoes then the heel broke while we were walking down in La Candelaria. Walked into Adidas outlet and paid for a pair of "tennis" as she called them.

Honestly, this girl was very pretty, had a really nice body and we vibed very well. She really took most of my attn on SA - whatsapp. But attitude in person was a bit standoffish. She clearly had this misconception of being better than other girls. She likes foreigners and clearly enjoyed spending their money but seemed to have a problem giving it up. All in all, this is back in late 2020 IIRC. Been back to BOG like 8 x since.OK. Yep, additional details make it make sense.

[DonMedellin]

I will have a 4 hour layover in Bogota airport before my connection to Medellin. Since I won't have bags, I'd like to spend the time with a girl. Any casa near the airport? Or spa?

[JackTaggart]

Anyone know of any actual hourly and / or love motels in the Zona T area? I will be staying near Calle 85. I found plenty in the 60's but would like some options closer to where I am staying in Zona T. I did a lot of googling but didn't find anything up by where I would be staying. Found the app MotelNow though. I don't plan to take girls I am meeting for the first time back to my Airbnb. I am thinking of adding love motels to the World Travel 69 map. Not sure if anyone has any opinions on that, but I would certainly find it helpful.

Here are some actual hotels that would work but not sure how girl friendly (or upcharge) they are and I would rather just got to a love motel where its known what's going on. I plan to scout them out though.

Hotel Bogotá Virrey Cra. $33 USD 15 #86 a-38 https://www.hotelbogotavirrey.com/contacto.html.

Virrey Park Hotel $39 USD Cra. 15 #87-94 https://www.hotelvirreypark.com/.

El Virrey $36 USD.

Hotel Suites Lago Inn Carrera $32 USD 16 A No 79-24 https://hotelbogotainn.com/suites-lago-chico-inn/.

[JjBee62]

Anyone know of any actual hourly and / or love motels in the Zona T area? I will be staying near Calle 85. I found plenty in the 60's but would like some options closer to where I am staying in Zona T. I did a lot of googling but didn't find anything up by where I would be staying. Found the app MotelNow though. I don't plan to take girls I am meeting for the first time back to my Airbnb. I am thinking of adding love motels to the World Travel 69 map. Not sure if anyone has any opinions on that, but I would certainly find it helpful.

Here are some actual hotels that would work but not sure how girl friendly (or upcharge) they are and I would rather just got to a love motel where its known what's going on. I plan to scout them out though.

Hotel Bogot Virrey Cra. $33 USD 15 #86 a-38 https://www.hotelbogotavirrey.com/contacto.html.

Virrey Park Hotel $39 USD Cra. 15 #87-94 https://www.hotelvirreypark.com/.

El Virrey $36 USD..It's been a long time since I looked at the Bogota map. There were a bunch of love motels listed. Here's a site which lists some with reviews:

http://guiacereza.com/guia-sitios/advanced-search/17823

[Zeos1]

Anyone know of any actual hourly and / or love motels in the Zona T area? I will be staying near Calle 85. I found plenty in the 60's but would like some options closer to where I am staying in Zona T. I did a lot of googling but didn't find anything up by where I would be staying. Found the app MotelNow though. I don't plan to take girls I am meeting for the first time back to my Airbnb. I am thinking of adding love motels to the World Travel 69 map. Not sure if anyone has any opinions on that, but I would certainly find it helpful.

Here are some actual hotels that would work but not sure how girl friendly (or upcharge) they are and I would rather just got to a love motel where its known what's going on. I plan to scout them out though.

Hotel Bogot Virrey Cra. $33 USD 15 #86 a-38 https://www.hotelbogotavirrey.com/contacto.html.

Virrey Park Hotel $39 USD Cra. 15 #87-94 https://www.hotelvirreypark.com/.

El Virrey $36 USD.

Hotel Suites Lago Inn Carrera $32 USD 16 A No 79-24 https://hotelbogotainn.com/suites-lago-chico-inn/.I have stayed in a couple of the Virrey hotels, they are certainly not places that I would be comfortable bringing girls into. The more upscale one of the group, certainly not. But they are comfortable, have great restaurants, at least the 2 I have stayed in.

[JustTK]

After leaving Santa Fe, my backup was to go to Adrianaygolosas at her new location opposite the Alqueria Bus Station. She has an interesting site and posts videos on a lot of the internet porn sites, but I had never been until today. Nice one! Have never spent any time in BOG but am keen to try. Will need to buy some winter clothers though first. .

I will chk out this place. When you say "site" do you mean website or FB or Insta or what?

[Sailor69]

Anywhere near Parque El Virrey or Zona T are good. It's a more upscale neighborhood with proximities to many good restaurants and places to eat. Also pretty quiet and safe neighborhood too.I'm going to try at least two weeks in Bogota next trip. I'the like to stay in a nice area somewhat similar to Poblado / Provenza. I'm thinking probably Chapinero or Zona T. A $100 a night hotel with good facilities, services, and reasonable security would probably be better for my first time. The lower the chica fee the better. Suggestions?

[Kutler]

I will have a 4 hour layover in Bogota airport before my connection to Medellin. Since I won't have bags, I'd like to spend the time with a girl. Any casa near the airport? Or spa?Taking the transmilenio to Santa Fe seems like a reasonable prospect to me. You might have time for two rides, well four technically.

[Aureliano16]

I always try to weed out the pros, but if you are with a pro you need to be very upfront with what you want and how much it will be. Unfortunately the hard core pros will often get amnesia when it comes time for sans condom in the room, it's at that point I broom them, give them taxi money and move on. I can guarantee when you meet up with type of working girl the session will always be bad. Better to move on. Remember "Women are like buses, another one comes along in 5 minutes" Also when dealing with a chipper, non-pro, It's not a bad idea during the qualifying stage that you say something like, I understand how difficult life can be for a single mom, or student and you can use little help now and then. At least they know you understand what makes the world go round and know how things work in Bogota. Stay safe!Interesting, do you look clearly foreigner, white, blonde, non-native Spanish, etc?

I think your strategy def. Can work if you look foreigner (no matter if good looking or not). Many, many Colombian girls dream of someone that takes their out of the country. They'd fuck for free in the hopes of that. Many actually fulfill that dream I guess.

I'd like to try that strategy on tinder, SA, okcupid, next time I am in Bogota to see how it works with me. I don't look like a foreigner at all in Colombia, so we will see.

Just yesterday I was talking with a Colombian friend one of those that would get offended if she gets asked about a "rate". She has an Engineering masters degree and works for less than 1000 USD / month in Bogota. She is also hot as hell, like 1.70 m slim brunette with a nice ass and body. She could be earning so much as a escort haha, but doesn't even know this world exists. She also can't find a good boyfriend, there are not many Colombian guys that she would be interested in (the guys would also earn similar to her). A foreigner might interest her, though.


A soldier in the National Army was on patrol. The victim was part of a group of eight soldiers guarding the area to verify compliance with the recent security measures ordered by Mayor Claudia Lpez, in response to the terrorist alert that was known in the city. I don't know if the rifle was ever recovered.

The crime must be really bad when they have the balls to steal a rifle from a group of 8 in the military army. LOL only in Colombia.I also read in the news that they recently discovered homeless men mixing trash with parts of human bodies near the center of the city. It turns out there was a torture house in the san Bernardo neighborhood. They said this was due to a "war" between Venezuelan and Colombian drug dealers and mentioned the SF streets in the news article being where the drug dealers would kidnap and torture each other if they sold drugs in a wrong street.

I have bought only marihuana in SF. One of my girls in Troya liked to fuck after smoking weed and we were often together in SF streets buying weed. She was so fun to be around, I enjoyed all my time with her.


After leaving Santa Fe, my backup was to go to Adrianaygolosas at her new location opposite the Alqueria Bus Station. She has an interesting site and posts videos on a lot of the internet porn sites, but I had never been until today. It is your basic brothel. I haven't had much luck with Photoprepagos and bringing someone to my hotel is problematic. I thought I had one lined up today and then was ghosted. So, Santa Fe, then that did not work out. So, not sure what I would find, I headed to Adriana's. It is a 3 story bldg where you buzz in at street level, and climb to the 2nd floor. She has the whole 2nd and 3rd floor. They had 4 there and did a lineup. The lineup also included sitting on my lap so I could get a feel for their rear ends. So I told Adriana which one I wanted and she left. Then she came back with a smile and asked me if I would make a porn video. Wow, the little head said yes and the big head wanted more info. She said uncovered BJ with 2 girls and would not show my face. She had the wickedest smile on her face because she knew I would relent. I was also concerned because I am average size and did not want to disappoint. It was with 2 of the 3 I did not pick..Yes, this is why I don't treat SF as my goal, but rather as a journey to get whatsapp numbers and schedule fuck sessions in a motel. That 15 min timer is awful.

I know and have been in Adrianaygolosas before. You only forgot to mention that the girls really are not so good looking there. Actually most I'd not fuck for free. But yeah, making porn is really hot. Nice experience. Did you get to fuck the girls in the video or was it just the blowjob?

Adriana would be classified between MILF and BBW in a porn site I'd say.

[JjBee62]

I will have a 4 hour layover in Bogota airport before my connection to Medellin. Since I won't have bags, I'd like to spend the time with a girl. Any casa near the airport? Or spa?Look for the bus heading to Portal El Dorado from there you need to get a Transmilenio card and add some money to it. Get on the L10 vus and take it to Calle 22 station. Out of the left side of the bus you can see La Piscina. There will be plenty of clubs and working girls within a few blocks.

Download the Transmilenio SITP app to figure out which bus takes you back.

[Stinger]

Nice one! Have never spent any time in BOG but am keen to try. Will need to buy some winter clothers though first. .

I will chk out this place. When you say "site" do you mean website or FB or Insta or what?Adrianaysusgolosas.net All of the contact info is there.

[Woodman09]

I will have a 4 hour layover in Bogota airport before my connection to Medellin. Since I won't have bags, I'd like to spend the time with a girl. Any casa near the airport? Or spa?Catch a ride to Santa Fe if it ID during the afternoon / evening especially Tuesday- Saturday-- Nice Streety Sweeties and Club Girls.

If during the day in PM La Mezzanine or Tantra. Many other casas in Chapinero.

All options are 20-30 minutes away. I have heard of a casa in Fontabon (very close to AP) but that was a while ago.

Good Luck!

[SonicBoom1]

After leaving Santa Fe, my backup was to go to Adrianaygolosas at her new location opposite the Alqueria Bus Station. She has an interesting site and posts videos on a lot of the internet porn sites, but I had never been until today.What a fuckin fantastic report! I see a new video has been posted on her website, perhaps it is you?

[JohnnyWishBone]

I'm really struggling to find someone to connect with on Facebook or tap into an open friend list to find girls to line up. Medellíand was easy enough after reading some useful tips in a different section of the Colombia forum. Can someone offer some help or connect with me please?

Sorry, I rarely ask as I tend to figure it out, but Bogotá facebook is baffling me.

[Mr Enternational]

I'm really struggling to find someone to connect with on Facebook or tap into an open friend list to find girls to line up. Medelland was easy enough after reading some useful tips in a different section of the Colombia forum. Can someone offer some help or connect with me please?

Sorry, I rarely ask as I tend to figure it out, but Bogot facebook is baffling me.Because Bogota is not a Facebook market. That is a Medellín thing.

[JjBee62]

Catch a ride to Santa Fe if it ID during the afternoon / evening especially Tuesday- Saturday-- Nice Streety Sweeties and Club Girls.

If during the day in PM La Mezzanine or Tantra. Many other casas in Chapinero.

All options are 20-30 minutes away. I have heard of a casa in Fontabon (very close to AP) but that was a while ago.

Good Luck!There are a couple of places in Fontabon. Was in one last year, some decent looking girls.

[JjBee62]

I'm really struggling to find someone to connect with on Facebook or tap into an open friend list to find girls to line up. Medelland was easy enough after reading some useful tips in a different section of the Colombia forum. Can someone offer some help or connect with me please?

Sorry, I rarely ask as I tend to figure it out, but Bogot facebook is baffling me.You won't find much in Bogota on Facebook. Try Twittee. Search for "masajes" and "prepago. ".

[Mechanic88]

What would be the best strip club to go out drink and have some fun? I'm not really looking for sex, just lap dances drinks and have some fun. Oh somewhere other than Santa Fe lol

[Ggekko2009]

I will have a 4 hour layover in Bogota airport before my connection to Medellin. Since I won't have bags, I'd like to spend the time with a girl. Any casa near the airport? Or spa?With just four hours, I would not risk it. Traffic is a mess. Coming out of the airport into a taxi to go to places like Santa Fe can be 1. 5 hours depending on the time of day. Then you have to go through the hassle of coming back to the airport again. You just won't have enough time.

[Mr Enternational]

With just four hours, I would not risk it. Traffic is a mess. Coming out of the airport into a taxi to go to places like Santa Fe can be 1. 5 hours depending on the time of day. Then you have to go through the hassle of coming back to the airport again. You just won't have enough time.4 hours is plenty of time. 1 hour and a half to get to Santa Fe? I have never seen that. It is only 15 minutes from the airport. Also if he is going to Medellin it is on a domestic flight. It takes like 2 seconds to get through security on that side. There is never a line or anything. If he has 4 hours, he should be good spending 2 hours of it in Santa Fe.

[Ggekko2009]

4 hours is plenty of time. 1 hour and a half to get to Santa Fe? I have never seen that. It is only 15 minutes from the airport. Also if he is going to Medellin it is on a domestic flight. It takes like 2 seconds to get through security on that side. There is never a line or anything. If he has 4 hours, he should be good spending 2 hours of it in Santa Fe.When he reaches Bogota, I assume that he has to go through immigration. This time will include getting through immigration, custom etc and getting into taxi to go to Santa Fe.

Took me one time from hotel Taquendema which is close to Santa Fe more than an hour to get to the Airport due to traffic. I would say yeah. I think the OP needs to know that as I personally have experienced it. Not to say that this will happen all the time but it is a risk nonetheless.

[LatinaLover#1]

I will have a 4 hour layover in Bogota airport before my connection to Medellin. Since I won't have bags, I'd like to spend the time with a girl. Any casa near the airport? Or spa?4 hours from when? From touch down to take off? It can easily take 10 to 15 minutes to taxi to your gate, getting the jetway to the plane. If had many flights to El Dorado and some times the gates not ready and you sit on the tarmac a while before you are docked and walking out the door. Also, are you flying first class because if you in the back of the plane, that can eat up your valuable minutes. If you have the kind of luck I have in El Dorado you will arrive in one of the farthest gates in the airport, that alone can be a 15 minute walk, and if a few jets arrived before you, then Immigration can be a real delay. However, since the Covid era my experience with immigration has been a lot faster then the past. It's possible to cost you an hour right there. Then you have to get to where you want to go in Bogota, get back to the airport and you will need to be at the gate some 30 minutes as they will be boarding again. I don't blame you for wanting to take a shot but everything will need to fall just right for you to make it happen why. How long will it take to cum? Jajaja she better be good because It can take me a half hour sometimes. All in all. I's possible. If everything goes right and you find a casa or spa close to the airport it can work but if get into the traffic mix in the city your done. Let us know what happens! Enjoy.

[John Gault]

I will have a 4 hour layover in Bogota airport before my connection to Medellin. Since I won't have bags, I'd like to spend the time with a girl. Any casa near the airport? Or spa?I would more understand if your connection was to Sex Prison. You are going to be in MDE in less than a hour flight. Remember stress is a bone killer so I would wait and relax till you get to MDE. BTW this is coming from a long time gambler. I only bet when the payoff odds are good. Your adventure could bring a lot of stress for a small gain.

[JjBee62]

I would more understand if your connection was to Sex Prison. You are going to be in MDE in less than a hour flight. Remember stress is a bone killer so I would wait and relax till you get to MDE. BTW this is coming from a long time gambler. I only bet when the payoff odds are good. Your adventure could bring a lot of stress for a small gain.Stress can also be an aphrodisiac. There are a lot of unknowns which alter the odds. What time of the day is he arriving? How long will the immigration line be? Will his flight get to the gate on time? Is he going to have to wait until the following day to scratch his itch in Medellin?

There are a few massage parlors in Fontibon, very close to the airport. Even with traffic he should be able to hit one and return in under 2 hours. Santa Fe is within range if he uses the Transmilenio. Depending on traffic, by taxi might be cutting it close.

[JackTaggart]

It's been a long time since I looked at the Bogota map. There were a bunch of love motels listed. Here's a site which lists some with reviews:

http://guiacereza.com/guia-sitios/advanced-search/17823Thank you! This is super helpful. It did not come up in my search before.

[Zeos1]

I will have a 4 hour layover in Bogota airport before my connection to Medellin. Since I won't have bags, I'd like to spend the time with a girl. Any casa near the airport? Or spa?I was turned away and totally lost my ticket once on a domestic flight between Medellin and Bogota because I did not check in more than an hour before the flight. I was there 55 minutes before the flight, and ended up with no refund, no flight. Had to book another more expensive flight on a different airline. Plus coming in you may get through in 20 or 30 minutes, or maybe over an hour. Have had both experiences.

So now down to 2 hours. Stress yourself out by trying to get a cab, go somewhere, find the gal of your dreams, perform, and be back at the airport. With potential traffic jams, etc. Etc. For me, not in a thousand years would I do that to myself.

[Stinger]

I will have a 4 hour layover in Bogota airport before my connection to Medellin. Since I won't have bags, I'd like to spend the time with a girl. Any casa near the airport? Or spa?Photoprepagos does not have a filter for section of the city but Mileroticos does. You could look for Fontibon or any other area near the airport (Google Maps shows the city sections). But, if you find a place or a chica that no one has reviewed, it might not work for a variety of reasons- fake, or you don't like her, or only one chica to choose from. I would consider what your objectives are- will this be your only time ever in Bogota? Maybe you have always wanted to see Santa Fe. With that short of a time, go with a sure thing with multiple chicas. Santa Fe is a sure thing. So are the Mezzanines, though a little farther away. Read back 15 or so pages- there are a few multi-chica places in Chapinero. As a risk taker, I would go for it. You could ask the cab driver to come back for you at a given time when he drops you off. Then he is back at the airport, which is better for him. Uber has been mostly illegal in Bogota and, if you get one, the driver will make you sit up front with him. If a regular cabbie sees an unmarked car with a person driving in front and a single person riding in back, they may assume it is Uber and react. I have not ever seen a traffic jam as bad as described, but it could happen. Wherever you go, I would time it and then add 15-20 minutes and make yourself leave to return by that time. The other thing you should do is download the Bogota Transmilenio App (TransMi App). The Transmilenio buses have their own dedicated lanes and should be able to run even with a traffic jam in the other lanes. The tan line (Line K) runs all the way to Bogota's International Airport (El Dorado). You could use the Transmilenio as a backup to get back to the airport if a jam happened and you were on one of the main roads that the Transmilenio Buses run down the middle of. Ask if you need more help.

[BearEmy84]

Uber has been mostly illegal in Bogota and, if you get one, the driver will make you sit up front with him. If a regular cabbie sees an unmarked car with a person driving in front and a single person riding in back, they may assume it is Uber and react.This. Its weird, but sit in the front. I've been stopped by the police in an uber before when sitting in the back with a chica on the way to dinner. First, a moto cop. Within 2 minutes, 10+ cops. Get out of the car, get a rough patdown against the hood, show ID, they make you show them the uber app, they take most of your cash from your pocket (100 mil in my case, left me with 20 mil), and you're on your way.

I suggest just using Cabify. You can link a card to it, it's cheaper than Uber, functions the same, but will call taxis for you (as well as normal cars, but taxis are quicker.) And it's cheaper than Uber too.

[JohnnyWishBone]

Because Bogota is not a Facebook market. That is a Medelln thing.Ok thanks Mr E.

[BearEmy84]

Both casas are in roughly the same area, so I stopped by both. For both, there's no indication of what it is.

Both are in a safe* area for walking during the day. Tantra is safe* during the night. There are a number of restaurants and bars close by, with a decent amount of foot traffic. Doesn't have a bad feeling like the south.

*Bogota safe, not safe-safe.

Neo Tantra seems like a dead location. The outer gate was unlocked but the inner door was locked and nobody answered.

Tantra's entrance is hidden and easy to miss. It's a white door in an alley on the front of the building between a gate on one side, and a small restaurant on the other. Look for the yellow, it's next to there. There's a "Se arrienda" sign above the door. There's sometimes a man outside who will ring the bell for you. A young man inside will open the door. Down a small hall, up the stairs, then you wait on a couch while the girls come out one by one to introduce themselves. It's up to you to remember their names.

In the morning 10 AM, only 3 girls. All 4's and 5's.

In the afternoon 4 PM, about 8 girls. A couple 6's and one 7 (if you like fake boobs & tattoos.).

I ended up getting a name wrong and went with Tania or Talia. Vennie with a good attitude and plenty of energy. Natural boobs were different sizes, but she was lactating when squeezed, which was a lot of fun. Aside from that, fuck session was average. Talked for a while after, she's a nice girl. Funny. No rush on time, we went over by a bit.

50 mil for 1/2 hour+30 mil tip for CIM / GFE. I put the tip on the table, I think she liked not having to ask.

They'll do 2-girl sessions too, but full charge for each.

Their website says there's a promo for 30 mil oral natural only, but I haven't been able to get it successfully.

[LatinaLover#1]

This. Its weird, but sit in the front. I've been stopped by the police in an uber before when sitting in the back with a chica on the way to dinner. First, a moto cop. Within 2 minutes, 10+ cops. Get out of the car, get a rough patdown against the hood, show ID, they make you show them the uber app, they take most of your cash from your pocket (100 mil in my case, left me with 20 mil), and you're on your way.

I suggest just using Cabify. You can link a card to it, it's cheaper than Uber, functions the same, but will call taxis for you (as well as normal cars, but taxis are quicker.) And it's cheaper than Uber too.Never had a problem with Uber, was made to sit in the front but that's it. However, My last trip in January with Uber the female driver made me sit in the front, made me call her by her first name and her by my first name, She said, in Spanish, If the cops stop her and know she's an Uber they can confiscate her car. I thought the whole Uber mess was fixed once they got re-opened. I guess not.

[Chicago85]

I agree with Zeos. You're just asking for trouble. Depending on where you're coming from or going there are also buses to / from the planes at BOG so you'll have less time than you think. They often start boarding earlier than USA Domestic airlines.


I was turned away and totally lost my ticket once on a domestic flight between Medellin and Bogota because I did not check in more than an hour before the flight. I was there 55 minutes before the flight, and ended up with no refund, no flight. Had to book another more expensive flight on a different airline. Plus coming in you may get through in 20 or 30 minutes, or maybe over an hour. Have had both experiences.

So now down to 2 hours. Stress yourself out by trying to get a cab, go somewhere, find the gal of your dreams, perform, and be back at the airport. With potential traffic jams, etc. Etc. For me, not in a thousand years would I do that to myself.

[FlashShaker]

I agree with Zeos. You're just asking for trouble. Depending on where you're coming from or going there are also buses to / from the planes at BOG so you'll have less time than you think. They often start boarding earlier than USA Domestic airlines.I think he should get the message now. Only do it if you feel all the stars aligned in your favor or you like living on a prayer and you can tell us about it later.

So I've been to Tantra few times and took their oral natural offer x 2 chicas and Talia was one of them. Yeah, her different size boobs really had me messed up, couldn't stop staring. Was really weirdly attracted to the smaller one and she let me suck on it for a long time. And yes, seems like she got a nice 34 the type for the other. Gave them each a 30 mil tip and they were ecstatic. Went back two days later and chose them again and this time the performance was far better. They knew a tip was coming so they put in extra work.

[JjBee62]

The travel gods were with me and I got in the immigration line before it got too long. Only took 25 minutes to get through.

Just a heads-up, they had a couple of people in the line checking everyone's vaccination card.

First money exchange I stopped at told me 3100 COP to the dollar. I walked to the next one and the rate was 3670. Not as good as it was last year, but not horrible.

[Woodman09]

Went out tonight to bang my favorite club girl-- I usually will get there a bit after she arrives for some quickee fun-- 20 minutes in heaven-.

I think we were in there like 25 minutes or so was Great as usual.

Everything was open, it was a bit slow but there definitely were some hot SGs made the rounds in the North stroll area after I banged my hooker GF.

I hooked up with this super cute 23 yr old white Girl Latina-- Had been looking to smash her for 2 weeks since the first time. My New favorite Streetie Sweetie.

Club situation seemed good for a Tuesday.

Everything was open clubs had some hotties -- everything normal except more soldiers.

There were a few squads of soldiers around and of course some cops. I kind a like the soldiers being around because they are not in the regular shakedown game-- I guess.

I think they are still upset about the rifle being stolen and are showing force? That must have really shook them up.

Ran into an ISG guy who just got back in town, ended up walking around with him-- There are a few ISGers here now will have to have a group trip soon.

Attached is a photo of the club row and the make-up dressingroom at Venus-- Usually when the club is open it is full of naked girls in bright floresant -- tonight just my hooker GF getting ready to return to the floor.

[Ggekko2009]

The travel gods were with me and I got in the immigration line before it got too long. Only took 25 minutes to get through.

Just a heads-up, they had a couple of people in the line checking everyone's vaccination card.

First money exchange I stopped at told me 3100 COP to the dollar. I walked to the next one and the rate was 3670. Not as good as it was last year, but not horrible.Did the custom ever stop you and asked you questions about how much money you were bringing in?

It happened to me the last time when this custom agent asked me something but it was too quick for me to process his Spanish. He did mention dinero and rubbing his thumb against his index finger to indicate so and I reckon he was asking much how much cash I had with me. I just said a few thousand. Either that, or he was asking me for a bribe. I highly doubt that was the case LOL.

Anyway, he made me pass my carry on luggage through the scanner machine before I can exit.

[JjBee62]

Did the custom ever stop you and asked you questions about how much money you were bringing in?

It happened to me the last time when this custom agent asked me something but it was too quick for me to process his Spanish. He did mention dinero and rubbing his thumb against his index finger to indicate so and I reckon he was asking much how much cash I had with me. I just said a few thousand. Either that, or he was asking me for a bribe. I highly doubt that was the case LOL.

Anyway, he made me pass my carry on luggage through the scanner machine before I can exit.I've been asked before, but not this time.

[LatinaLover#1]

Did the custom ever stop you and asked you questions about how much money you were bringing in?

It happened to me the last time when this custom agent asked me something but it was too quick for me to process his Spanish. He did mention dinero and rubbing his thumb against his index finger to indicate so and I reckon he was asking much how much cash I had with me. I just said a few thousand. Either that, or he was asking me for a bribe. I highly doubt that was the case LOL.

Anyway, he made me pass my carry on luggage through the scanner machine before I can exit.For years it Seems like I had to put my luggage thru the xray every time I went to Bogota. Been thru Bogota customs dozens of times in the last 5 years and have not been asked once to xray despite having a large suitcase and sometimes 2 suitcases. So go figure.

Immigration is a different story. I have a friend who use to work for boarder control and he told me If your passport has been scanned a few times they already know everything about you. The few questions they ask you are test questions to see if you lie to them. Having made 5/6 trips a year to Colombia for the last ten years or so I was asked one time on my return a question, he said "you go to Colombia a lot don't you?" I said yea, I have a girl there. He closed my passport and said welcome home! I'm sure when they scan your passport they know it all. I wrote a letter to the Embassy in Bogota on my girlfriends behalf when they approved her 10 year visa I'll bet everything about me and her comes up for them to see. I've heard some guys say anything about girls and they want to scan your phone why laptop. Not sure what triggers that but telling the truth has been good for me so far.

[Mr Enternational]

Did the custom ever stop you and asked you questions about how much money you were bringing in?Yes. I was asked this today. This is a normal customs question for anywhere in the world. What are you bringing into the country. I did not know how much I had so I told him 150,000 pesos. The Colpatria machine was being serviced so I could not take money out of that as I usually do. He also asked me if I had any commercial goods. Seems LL should be playing the lotto. There is only 1 time that I have not been asked to put my bags in the xray machine.

Got to the Tequendama Suites and my girl from Huila was already waiting for me. She took the 9 hour bus ride which turned out to be 13 she said because of traffic. I will more than likely buy her a plane ticket to go back though. It was 11:30 and the hotel has a strict policy of not letting you check in until 3pm. They told me this in an email and I thought they were just selling wolf tickets. They were serious though. This along with the slow ass check in process makes this place suck. The rooms are great though.

So me and my girl went next door to eat and after that walked to the cinema. We saw Lost City. I slept through most of it. We walked back to the hotel in the rain and it still took time to get the key although the lady had entered all of our info earlier.

Be careful with this place. When I was here last month the chick I was with ordered room service. The lady that brought the food told me I had to pay cash. Later on the charge also appeared on my credit card. The front desk told me to take it up with the restaurant. Then the restaurant told me to take it up with the front desk. I told her the front desk told me to talk to you. Then she said she would just knock it off the bill we are making now.

[Guerinto]

Did the custom ever stop you and asked you questions about how much money you were bringing in?
I have. Pretty standard question, as others have pointed out. I tend to bring 1-2 million COP in cash and I have my Canadian debit and credit cards. I try to limit my card usage to just my visa with a small limit that I use mostly for travel, but I have the others in the safe, just in case. I buy the COP from a currency exchange place in my city in Canada. Rates are very competitive and I exit the plane with cash in hand, saving me the hassle of finding an ATM or getting robbed by the airport money changers. I tend to have leftover small bills and change I bring back each trip.

Last time I told the customs person that I had 1 million. She said dollars? I burst out laughing! Do I look like I have 1 million dollars cash on me? I resisted the temptation to be a smartass and politely replied 1 million COP. She waved me through.

[LatinaLover#1]

My girl gets that question at Immigration every time she enters the USA, standard answer is 1 million COP and a Cap One credit and Debt card to access dollars. Never a problem.

[Aureliano16]

Hey,

So I updated the map http://colombiasexmap.com/ to include Adriana why sus Golosas and also another site in the south.

I had been looking for "casas" near the airport for our friend of the 4 hour layover and there were 2, but one of them is closed and the other has some very bad reviews regarding stealing the customers so I prefer not to add such sites in the map.

For this guy I think 4 hours is enough to go to Santa Fe, walk, choose and fuck a street walker and go back. But, you need to use Transmilenio. If you go with a Taxi you might risk getting into a huge traffic jam or a protest (last year there were protests all the time in Bogota, and I've read in the news they are coming back this year).

If it's your first time in the city then don't bother, just stay in the airport. This is an operation that needs someone that knows the city and the transmilenio well, the routes are quite complicated since the busses don't stop in all stations and there are also many lines, taking an incorrect transmilenio can mean 30 minutes or more of wasted time. You also need to have a proper card to enter the busses. It's easy for someone that knows exactly where to walk, which bus to take, already has a card, I think that person would not even stress because 4 hours is more than enough. But if it's your first time in the city I'd advice against it.

[LatinaLover#1]

Farc dissidents killed a few people a few months ago when they planted a bomb near a satellite police station in the south part of Bogota, now they are back. Setting of a 'Potato Bomb' in the National University yesterday and today the University is closed to only virtual classes. Not sure if this is an isolated incident or the beginning of a campaign. Best to be alert and be safe.

[FlashShaker]

I am not sure if any of you guys on this site follow / read doncolombia.com but I used here and there to get reviews on the chicas and help make a decision on the ones to try. Earlier this month a guy posted how he was 'kidnapped' and 'shot' right after he left a prepagos place by two Venezualan males. Seems they pretend to ask him for directions and then using a gun they forced him into a van. Here's the translated post:

After leaving the site, in the middle of Chapinero, two Venezuelans approached me to ask me for an address, I told them I didn't know and as soon as I thought, they put a gun in front of me and forced me to get into a high-end truck. They walked me around the city and as much as they could, they didn't take money out of the accounts, but they did take the cell phone and about $700,000 THOUSAND PESOS that I had left. That's the least of it, the rest is that while they were walking me, these thugs were talking with a supposed "Alice" or Alicia, a supposed escort who told them that she already had a guy asleep and that she was waiting for them in a motel to "clean him up". The guys, in their inexperience and because of their desire to clean up the other, left me stranded in a place in Fontibn: and then the worst came, not content with robbing me, they shot me twice ...

Link: https://doncolombia.com/temas/inseguridad-para-el-putero-en-bogota.52328/.

Reminds me, last trip in BOG, went to see a prepagos during mid-morning hrs, when I got there, the entrance was behind a locked gate. There is no buzzer, of course. Called the girl, no answer and few seconds later, two Venny guys rolled up on a motorcycle. They asked me who I was looking for blah blah blah. They walked in with me and locked the gate with a padlock. Felt a bit uneasy but didn't mind. Go upstairs to the second FL to a nearly empty place. Saw the girl in a room, a guy called her, came out, met in the open kitchen area. Went back to the room, those two dudes were just there talking loud as shit, laughing and calling someone on speaker phone. Very uncomfortable experience, room was hot as hell, it was humid that morning. No fans and these two dudes non-stop shouting made the experience awful. Truly couldn't wait to get out of there.

[Aureliano16]

I am not sure if any of you guys on this site follow / read doncolombia.com but I used here and there to get reviews on the chicas and help make a decision on the ones to try. Earlier this month a guy posted how he was 'kidnapped' and 'shot' right after he left a prepagos place by two Venezualan males. Seems they pretend to ask him for directions and then using a gun they forced him into a van. Here's the translated post:

After leaving the site, in the middle of Chapinero, two Venezuelans approached me to ask me for an address, I told them I didn't know and as soon as I thought, they put a gun in front of me and forced me to get into a high-end truck. They walked me around the city and as much as they could, they didn't take money out of the accounts, but they did take the cell phone and about $700,000 THOUSAND PESOS that I had left. That's the least of it, the rest is that while they were walking me, these thugs were talking with a supposed "Alice" or Alicia, a supposed escort who told them that she already had a guy asleep and that she was waiting for them in a motel to "clean him up". The guys, in their inexperience and because of their desire to clean up the other, left me stranded in a place in Fontibn: and then the worst came, not content with robbing me, they shot me twice ... ..Yes, this is unfortunately true and more common in the latest days in Colombia. In the old times when you got mugged / kidnapped, if you cooperated and gave them all the money they wouldn't shoot you. The last sentence sounds like a dystopian world now that I think about it, but it was true, you could even negotiate with the thieves about not taking the whole wallet for example and letting you keep the ID and documents. These were Colombian thieves. I was once robbed like this one guy with a gun another with a knife, I was totally scared and didn't move an inch. They thought I was going to fight back and hit me in the head with the back of the gun which made me wake up and give them promptly my cellphone and all the money I had. But they let me keep my ID. And most importantly, they didn't shoot me.

Nowadays I don't know what is going on but even if you cooperate it seems they are stabbing / shooting for no reason. It's unbelievable and my theory is that Colombian justice is so bad that the Venezuelans criminals know the maximum that can happen to them is to be deported back to Venezuela. When they should be jailed for life for murder.

In conclusion I'd be very careful about going to random places found in mileroticos. The best for security reasons in my opinion is basically to not hire any "independent" prepago. Just stick to the reputable casas, massage parlors and to Santa Fe of course, as I've said earlier thieves go to Santa Fe for vacations not for work. And there is always so many people there that I can't imagine something like the story in the link happening.

[LatinaLover#1]

Yes, this is unfortunately true and more common in the latest days in Colombia. In the old times when you got mugged / kidnapped, if you cooperated and gave them all the money they wouldn't shoot you. The last sentence sounds like a dystopian world now that I think about it, but it was true, you could even negotiate with the thieves about not taking the whole wallet for example and letting you keep the ID and documents. These were Colombian thieves. I was once robbed like this one guy with a gun another with a knife, I was totally scared and didn't move an inch. They thought I was going to fight back and hit me in the head with the back of the gun which made me wake up and give them promptly my cellphone and all the money I had. But they let me keep my ID. And most importantly, they didn't shoot me.

Nowadays I don't know what is going on but even if you cooperate it seems they are stabbing / shooting for no reason. It's unbelievable and my theory is that Colombian justice is so bad that the Venezuelans criminals know the maximum that can happen to them is to be deported back to Venezuela. When they should be jailed for life for murder.

In conclusion I'd be very careful about going to random places found in mileroticos. The best for security reasons in my opinion is basically to not hire any "independent" prepago. Just stick to the reputable casas, massage parlors and to Santa Fe of course, as I've said earlier thieves go to Santa Fe for vacations not for work. And there is always so many people there that I can't imagine something like the story in the link happening.For the last few years I have been trying to warn guys on here that Bogota is not the same old Bogota and is very dangerous now. Anyone that tells you this area is very safe or that area is safe is either ignorant of the dangers or so far has had good luck in avoiding problems, having a cavalier attitude in Bogota is going to get you hurt, sooner or later. The current crop of robbers are both Colombian and Venezuelan with the latter being the most dangerous. They will shoot you first and rob you after. You will never know what girl is working with the robbers, what front desk clerk at the hotel is connected to the robbers, or bank clerk who will give a heads up to the robbers that you have money. TRUST no one. We all have this feeling that we are safe in crowds. Forget it! If you have what they want they will shoot you in the middle of the afternoon in Andino mall as they did a few weeks ago. Be especially wary of the waiters in restaurants, front desk clerks in the hotel, bank clerks, cashiers in the casino taxi drivers etc. Etc. They will all sell you out for a few thousand pesos. You can stay safe in Bogota and have a good time but you must be vigilant.

[Mr Enternational]

Nowadays I don't know what is going on but even if you cooperate it seems they are stabbing / shooting for no reason.It is called practice.

[Mr Enternational]

For the last few years I have been trying to warn guys on here that Bogota is not the same old Bogota and is very dangerous now. Anyone that tells you this area is very safe or that area is safe is either ignorant of the dangers or so far has had good luck in avoiding problems, having a cavalier attitude in Bogota is going to get you hurt, sooner or later.But people have always said it was dangerous, at least in the 17 years that I have been going. It is like 5 years ago people saying Bogota is a dangerous place. Then today yes it was dangerous back then, but now it is really dangerous. I guess in 5 more years the saying will be yes it was really dangerous before, but now it is really really dangerous. And 10 years from now the saying will be if you step foot in Bogota you will surely die.


You will never know what girl is working with the robbers, what front desk clerk at the hotel is connected to the robbers, or bank clerk who will give a heads up to the robbers that you have money. TRUST no one. Be especially wary of the waiters in restaurants, front desk clerks in the hotel, bank clerks, cashiers in the casino taxi drivers etc. Etc. They will all sell you out for a few thousand pesos.You sound like some super spy movie or something where people must run from the evil and get to the magic whatever the hell to save all of humanity. Serious it is commonplace for desk clerks and waiters to be setting customers up? Why the one customer versus the hundreds of others they see every week? Or is it they set up 25% of their customers? Maybe 10%? How does the desk clerk or waiter know what I have? All they usually see is this Amex Platinum come out. Who is whipping out a 3 million peso bankroll for a 25,000 peso lunch or when checking into a hotel? To me this sounds like fantasyland. I have been to Bogota at least 150 times, but I guess my cavalier attitude will be getting me hurt later since it has not happened sooner.

That being said, maybe you are saying this to catch the attention of squares that may be walking around with their head up their ass. In this case I would say yes pay fucking attention, but I would not say you need to walk around shaking in your boots like you are saying they need to be doing.

I am from the streets so being aware is second nature for me. I do not have to think about any of this stuff because it is automatic. I walk around with my hands in my pockets. As a matter of fact when I was walking around with a chick the past few days she kept wanting to hold hands. It was really uncomfortable for me because I do not usually walk around like that with my hand out of my pocket. Half the time she would just have to grab my arm.

If a stranger approaches me there is no need for me to say anything. I simply shake my head no on their approach. Nobody knows you. The only thing they could possibly want is money.

I think we were at Bolivar Plaza sitting on the steps and my girl was chatting with a guy sitting next to her while I drank my aromatica. He asked about me and she told him that I am American. I got up and told her lets go. I advised her to never tell anyone where I am from. Chatting to randoms telling your business is not how I get down.

We left there and went walking. She saw a store and wanted me to buy a purse for her. I gave her the 90K and she ran in and bought it. She came out showing it off to me after having put her cellphone and money inside. I had to quickly pisz on her parade. I said look around. Do you see anybody carrying a bag like this? No. Most women have on the little gym bags like I do. And for god sake get your money and phone out of that thing. Then you guys always wonder why you get robbed so much. You make it fucking easy with this shit dangling and all of your belongings inside. Keep a brush, makeup, and toilet paper in there. Shit that really counts needs to be in your pocket.

I would be a liar if I said Bogota today was no different than yesterday. But I am a downtown guy anyway. I can literally count on one hand the times I have not stayed downtown. Before, you would see people walking downtown at night going to events. They had the theatre open on the main drag. I think where things took a change is when they closed the street off permanently for walking and bicycles. Before, they would only do that on Sundays.

But since, the vagrancy in the area has gotten out of hand. At night time that place now looks like something out of a Hollywood movie set. World War Z or some bullshit. Still no reason for me to be shaking in my boots. Most people are just minding their own business. Last month late one night I even happened to catch a cool street jam put on by some Venezuelans before the police came and broke it up.

Bottom line, I think most people including Colombians would be scared shitless to be downtown. Nobody is saying the city is a safe haven. Are there robberies and shootings happening on every corner of Bogota like it is being made to sound though? No. Mfs are even getting robbed and shot in broad daylight on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills. Better be careful in that place too.

https://www.courthousenews.com/lunchtime-robbery-at-beverly-hills-restaurant-nets-la-gang-members-prison/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10111723/amp/Beverly-Hills-shooting-Man-shot-leg-restaurant-near-Rodeo-Drive-robbery.html

P.S. Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra takes some wonderful pictures at night.

[DonMedellin]

Thanks for all of your inputs on my question of where to fuck during a short layover in Bogota. I can now proudly report that I fucked a 8.5 in Santa Fe. Damage was 100,000 cop, 2 pops and we spent about 45 minutes in the room.

I landed in Bogota at around 9:45 am. I only had one small bag, and I grabbed it from overhead when I heard the "landing soon" announcement. It was shocking to me how passengers sit in their seats and wait until the row in front of them to get up, especially in a country where cars never stop for pedestrians. Anyways, as soon as I saw the very front row passengers got up, and got up and rushed to the exit. I got angry looks at the exit but I was on a mission so I did not care. Exited the plane, walked as fast as I could to immigration. There were about 20 people ahead of me, but there were 4 or 5 agents so getting through immigration was fast, took about 10 minutes total. All I had to do was to hand in my passport and vaccine card. No questions asked.

I bought a transit card next to one of the exit doors at the arrival hall, and charged 5,000 cop in it. Right outside, I boarded a bus that took me to Portal El Dorado, only a 5 minute ride. Portal El Dorado is a large station, took me a while to find the bus to Santa Fe. Lang story short, 40 minutes later, the bus dropped me off 2 blocks from Bogota's ground zero. I checked my phone, it was 11:07 am. 80 some minutes from BOG airport to Santa Fe, is this a forum record?

I know Santa Fe quiet well. I quickly spotted a short girl with super cute face 3 blocks from where I got off the bus. She was talking to two other girls, and I wasted no time. I walked up to her and said hola. Other two chicks walked away and I asked for her rates. She wanted 150 k and I countered with 100 k, plus room. She agreed and we went to a near by hotel had a session. She was one of the cutest girls I had ever been with. Natural body and a few small tattoos. I first came in her mouth, and second time in her pussy. Both times were covered. Got her number. I would rate her 8. 5 in look, 9 in attitude and 7 in performance. I left Santa Fe at around noon, walked to Cra 7 to have lunch. The pedestrian street was packed since it is a Saturday. After lunch, I walked back to the bus station for the bus back to BOG. I arrived at the airport at around 1:15 pm, breezed through security and got to my gate.

In a few hours, I will be back in Medellin. I will take tonight off. Plan to do some shopping and situate myself tomorrow. Might hit some casas in centro on Monday. I plan to stay in Medellin for 4 weeks, then probably back to Bogota.

[GhostRecon]

How is SF on Sundays? Full go?

[Marglo]

But people have always said it was dangerous, at least in the 17 years that I have been going. It is like 5 years ago people saying Bogota is a dangerous place. Then today yes it was dangerous back then, but now it is really dangerous. I guess in 5 more years the saying will be yes it was really dangerous before, but now it is really really dangerous. And 10 years from now the saying will be if you step foot in Bogota you will surely die.

You sound like some super spy movie or something where people must run from the evil and get to the magic whatever the hell to save all of humanity. Serious it is commonplace for desk clerks and waiters to be setting customers up? Why the one customer versus the hundreds of others they see every week? Or is it they set up 25% of their customers? Maybe 10%? How does the desk clerk or waiter know what I have? All they usually see is this Amex Platinum come out. Who is whipping out a 3 million peso bankroll for a 25,000 peso lunch or when checking into a hotel? To me this sounds like fantasyland. I have been to Bogota at least 150 times, but I guess my cavalier attitude will be getting me hurt later since it has not happened sooner..I am in Bogota for business every month and always visit Santa Fe. Bogota including Santa Fe is one of the safest cities in South America. I do not drink alcohol and I always maintain a confident posture. The streets are crowded and one should have no problems. If a tout tries to grab you, just laugh and slap his face. I always bring my Leica M-10 and take photos. I had one problem about 5 years ago.

When a tout objected to my taking photos. Sadly a kick to his knee cap ended the argument. Never be afraid and enjoy.

[ClamSlammer]

Because I got sick of arguing with posters who have shit for brains who believe impossible shit like Uber is illegal in Colombia (read more on Stupid Shit Medellin subforum) and how Hong Kong Tijuana imposes ficha quotas for their putas.

But I decided to post a TR because I want to keep even the dumbest mongers safe from harm. My first 5 nights in Colombia, I was victim of attempted robbery 3 times. Twice in Cartagena (read my TR there) and once here in Bogota. I'm writing this post from my room at NH Bogota Royal World Trade Center. I have two more nights here in Bogota before I return home. For those that aren't familiar with me, I've been an ISG senior member since around 2010. My mongering base is Tijuana. I've been there a thousand times and I am one of, if not the most, knowledgeable Tijuana monger to ever exist. Another thing, I never lie, I never embellish, I never exaggerate. I simply state the facts and my opinion to the best of my recollections. My word is gold.

I booked a 5 star room on Hotwire at Bogota Royal WTC in north Chapinero for $224/5 nights with a "10% download Hotwire app" discount. I wouldn't classify it as 5 star though. No pool, spa, lacking amenities. Lobby is tiny. Free guests until 7 pm and then after a $100 k charge I've been told. My room is big and nice. I have no complaints. The neighborhood is quite safe. Street cameras everywhere and office buildings and apt towers. Walking distance to Parque 93 but long walk. Traffic in Bogota is bad. Took over an hour to get to hotel from airport. Here, Uber works in conjunction with taxi's. Taxi's work as Uber as well. The only difference is that with UberX you are quoted a set rate. With Uber Taxi you are quoted a range, with the UberX rate usually located in the middle of that range.

First night in Bogota, me and my wingman decide to hit Sante Fe. We are both obvious foreigners. We pull up in Uber and are immediately accosted by around 15 meseros / touts who are pleading with us to visit their respective bars. The street was well lit, and there were people everywhere. But still, I had a very uneasy feeling. The vibe of this place, it just had me very uneasy. Couldn't ever relax. And this is coming from a monger who regularly walks in and out of Zona Norte Tijuana on foot in the wee hours. There were like 8-10 bars right next to / across from each other. Paisas, Venus, Troya, Fiebre, Atunes, and a couple others I can't recall. We visited each, one by one. I felt uneasy the whole time. This is not my type of place. I've mongered in Tijuana, Chihuahua, Nogales, Mexicali, Los Algodones, San Luis Rio Colorado and Medellin so I'm familiar with 3rd World Latin American RLD's. And I've never felt uneasy like this.

We were standing outside Venus and these two chicas came out to talk to us for like 15 min. One was Ruby, a Vennie. Skinny, ok face, decent personality. Smiles a lot even though her life is crappy. Made the mistake of giving her my Whats. It was one sob story after another. The thought of tossing her a single peso never even crossed my mind though. Anyhow, got sick of talking to her so we headed across the street to Fiebre.

Ordered two Poker beers. I was standing against the back wall of the club, facing the stage and entrance. Wasn't talking to anybody, just completely minding my own business. Then somebody motions to me that the guy on the second floor above me wants my attention. So I look up. And there's this local, white shirt, trying to say something to me. I can't hear nor understand so I just blow it off. I thought he was trying to communicate with someone else since obviously I know no one in the whole city. So a couple minutes later, I'm standing right in front of the stairs, a few feet from where I was previously standing, and I feel a hard blow to my back. Somebody hit me as hard as they could. Didn't knock me down though. I turn around and it's the same guy from upstairs. I go up to him to say WTF and he's shouting things at me I can't hear / understand, then he puts his hand in my front pants pocket in an attempt to steal what was in there. I immediately grab my pocket with both hands to secure its contents and turn away. I was surprised at how little he resisted and he let go rather easily. At this point I didn't know how many friends he had or weapons or what not, so I immediately headed for the exit and across the street to Venus. I was extremely agitated and trying to collect my thoughts as putas kept on approaching me. I was paranoid watching every customer enter the establishment, thinking that it was him returning with a weapon or with friends. I had enough and just hopped in the first taxi and headed back to my hotel.

I'm as hardcore and seasoned Tijuana monger as they come. And this Santa Fe place made me uneasy as hell. I ended up going to other clubs outside Santa Fe such as Pussy House and Mora Mora Pole Dance. At Mora Mora, the customers seemed like normal guys with honest jobs just going out to have a good time. The customers in Santa Fe, I can just tell that a lot of them are hardened violent criminals. I have no desire to ever go back there. Skanky, lowest class ugly putas are all that area can attract.

Pussy House is in Chapinero but kinda rough neighborhood. Long stage right in the middle. Bottle required for table. Just stood around for about an hour sipping my Poker. Maybe 70 chicas on a Friday night. Mostly 3-5's, didn't spot anything over a 6. Went across the street to Diva's. It's kinda an underground puta bar. Small, ocuppied the 2nd and 3rd floors. Maybe 5 ugly putas total. Stayed 5 minutes then took an Uber to Mora Mora who has the same owner.

Mora Mora Pole Dance takes every customer's ID and writes their info on a clipboard. Decent sized club. The patrons seem like normal, decent guys out for a good time. Totally different vibe than Santa Fe. I felt completely secure there even though there were no other foreigners. Maybe 80 chicas. Talent was mostly 5-6's. Maybe one or two that would top out at 6. 5 on their best day. Stayed about an hour then tried the place next to it. Can't remember the name but it sounded Italian. Sucked bad. Like 3 chicas. Left right away and retired for the night.

On Thurs night, a tout directed me to Lido. I had no idea what it was, was bored, so I went it. It was around midnight. It's a big-ass converted mansion turned puta club. Honestly, it felt pretty high class, well about as high class as a puta club can be. Well lit, you can see all the putas from far away too. They keep this place clean. The mop lady comes around every 15 minutes to clean the bar area. Beers were pricey, $50 k but they were charging $60 k claiming VAT. I didn't want to argue so I just paid it. Probably around 50 chicas. Most of them dressed normally. A stage in the middle with topless dancer who would later go around and ask for tips. There was one kinda hot one, an 8, and lots of 6's and 7's. I don't even want to know how much the putas were charging. I just nursed my Heineken for an hour and half before I left. I returned the following Saturday night, it wasn't quite as busy. It was the same thing though.

Saturday night, went to Loutron before Pussy House. I had always thought that Loutron was a massage place. But in Bogota it is an underground puta club. It is a converted house. Not nearly as grand of a mansion as Lido but it was a nicer house that was converted. There were about 15 putas present at 7 pm. There was puta karaoke going on, a dark skinned one belting out her favorite tunes. They all form a lineup every time a new customer enters. All very average looking. Beers were $50 k, water / Gatorade $20 k with no VAT. Stayed for 45 min, got bored and left for Pussy House as described earlier.

Not interested in going to any more clubs in Bogota. The only good one, Lido, is prohibitively expensive. Santa Fe is just a thug's paradise. Pussy House ain't great, neither is Mora Mora. Been working on some SA chicas. One sweet 18 why / o came by yesterday to eat. Supposed to come by again. A couple other really hot SA chicas I've been in constant communication since two weeks before my arrival. Then as soon as I'm here they start flaking out, which should surprise no one. Got some responses on Tinder in Cartagena, but none so far in Bogota.

For those of you that are on the fence about going to Colombia, think about what I just wrote. A seasoned monger of Latin America jolted by the amount of crime. I wouldn't say don't go, but I certainly wouldn't go solo. Cartagena was the funniest mongering destination I've ever been to. Bogota, well, fuck, if you're an obvious foreigner in Santa Fe, you're going to get eyeballed and sized up. I dunno if it's the Venezuelans or Colombians in my case because I can't tell the difference. But be extra careful out there, don't take any chances.

[Mr Enternational]

Thanks for all of your inputs on my question of where to fuck during a short layover in Bogota. I can now proudly report that I fucked a 8.5 in Santa Fe. Damage was 100,000 cop, 2 pops and we spent about 45 minutes in the room.Exactly. 4 hours is plenty of time. It is half of a workday. And you took the bus at that Good job.

[Woodman09]

I will write more about our good times later-- Luckily all survived no one robbed, stabbed or killed, LOL. I was with new guys who enjoyed the High Quality girls.

[JjBee62]

This will probably get moved to the SS in BOG thread.


Ecause I got sick of arguing with posters who have shit for brains who believe impossible shit like Uber is illegal in Colombia (read more on Stupid Shit Medellin subforum) and how Hong Kong Tijuana imposes ficha quotas for their putas.

But I decided to post a TR because I want to keep even the dumbest mongers safe from harm. My first 5 nights in Colombia, I was victim of attempted robbery 3 times. Twice in Cartagena (read my TR there) and once here in Bogota. I'm writing this post from my room at NH Bogota Royal World Trade Center. I have two more nights here in Bogota before I return home. For those that aren't familiar with me, I've been an ISG senior member since around 2010. My mongering base is Tijuana. I've been there a thousand times and I am one of, if not the most, knowledgeable Tijuana monger to ever exist. Another thing, I never lie, I never embellish, I never exaggerate. I simply state the facts and my opinion to the best of my recollections. My word is gold.Right there is where my brain yelled "better put your boots on, because the shit is about to get deep. "When someone tells me" I'm the greatest of all time" I immediately decide they aren't. It's simple. Hand (name your favorite NBA player) a basketball and he doesn't need to say a word. All he has to do is what he does every day and everyone can see his skill. Hand someone else a basketball and all he does is talk about his skill, but can't show it on the court, it's because he ain't got game. After reading this and your Uber rant, I haven't seen anything which tempts me to place much faith in your submissions.

Saying you were the victim of 3 attempted robberies in 5 days, removes any confidence that might have remained. I've spent about 15 months in Colombia over the past 8 years. I got scammed once, on the 2nd or 3rd day of my first visit, and had 1 attempted robbery. This is from a certified hillbilly who spent the first 18 years of life never more than a 5 minute drive away from cows.

BTW, the place I got scammed (cost me $95 and my phone) was not far from your safe area hotel.


I booked a 5 star room on Hotwire at Bogota Royal WTC in north Chapinero for $224/5 nights with a "10% download Hotwire app" discount. I wouldn't classify it as 5 star though. No pool, spa, lacking amenities. Lobby is tiny. Free guests until 7 pm and then after a $100 k charge I've been told. My room is big and nice. I have no complaints. The neighborhood is quite safe. Street cameras everywhere and office buildings and apt towers. Walking distance to Parque 93 but long walk. Traffic in Bogota is bad. Took over an hour to get to hotel from airport. Here, Uber works in conjunction with taxi's. Taxi's work as Uber as well. The only difference is that with UberX you are quoted a set rate. With Uber Taxi you are quoted a range, with the UberX rate usually located in the middle of that range.

First night in Bogota, me and my wingman decide to hit Sante Fe. We are both obvious foreigners. We pull up in Uber and are immediately accosted by around 15 meseros / touts who are pleading with us to visit their respective bars. The street was well lit, and there were people everywhere. But still, I had a very uneasy feeling. The vibe of this place, it just had me very uneasy. Couldn't ever relax. And this is coming from a monger who regularly walks in and out of Zona Norte Tijuana on foot in the wee hours. There were like 8-10 bars right next to / across from each other. Paisas, Venus, Troya, Fiebre, Atunes, and a couple others I can't recall. We visited each, one by one. I felt uneasy the whole time. This is not my type of place. I've mongered in Tijuana, Chihuahua, Nogales, Mexicali, LOS Algodones, San Luis Rio Colorado and Medellin so I'm familiar with 3rd World Latin American RLD's. And I've never felt uneasy like this.

We were standing outside Venus and these two chicas came out to talk to us for like 15 min. One was Ruby, a Vennie. Skinny, ok face, decent personality. Smiles a lot even though her life is crappy. Made the mistake of giving her my Whats. It was one sob story after another. The thought of tossing her a single peso never even crossed my mind though. Anyhow, got sick of talking to her so we headed across the street to Fiebre.I'm glad I put on my boots.

Let's start with the obvious. Someone hit you in the back as hard as they could and you didn't go down? How exactly did you determine that the blow you felt was the hardest someone you've never seen before can hit? Then he stuck his hand in your front pocket? How did such a seasoned and hardcore monger let that happen? I'm not seasoned or hardcore in any way and nobody has ever managed to get their hand in my pocket.

Where was your wingman during all of this? You bring a wingman, and he let's someone hit you in the back and try to rob you and doesn't even ask the guy politely to stop?

Here's a possible alternative to what happened:

You were standing in a spot where customers are not allowed. A guy who works at the club yelled at you to move. You ignored him. He came down and smacked you on the back hard enough to get your attention and tried again to tell you to move. When you didn't comply, he grabbed you to move you. You pulled away and moved, thus solving the problem.

One of the problems with your version is that most bars frown upon people violently attacking other customers and trying to rob them in the bar. It's bad for business. Any club I've been in, if someone hits someone else as hard they can, staff is going to be all over that person and it's not going to be a pleasant experience.


I'm as hardcore and seasoned Tijuana monger as they come. And this Santa Fe place made me uneasy as hell. I ended up going to other clubs outside Santa Fe such as Pussy House and Mora Mora Pole Dance. At Mora Mora, the customers seemed like normal guys with honest jobs just going out to have a good time. The customers in Santa Fe, I can just tell that a lot of them are hardened violent criminals. I have no desire to ever go back there. Skanky, lowest class ugly putas are all that area can attract.I'm not a Santa Fe regular. I've only been a few times. Each time I've noticed that there are girls who don't look so good and girls who look good. Each time I see the same type of customers as I've seen everywhere else, just a bunch of regular guys.

I'd be lying if I said I'm surprised that someone who says he never exaggerates and his word is gold, can declare that someone is a hardened, violent criminal just by glancing at them.


Pussy House is in Chapinero but kinda rough neighborhood. Long stage right in the middle. Bottle required for table. Just stood around for about an hour sipping my Poker. Maybe 70 chicas on a Friday night. Mostly 3-5's, didn't spot anything over a 6. Went across the street to Diva's. It's kinda an underground puta bar. Small, ocuppied the 2nd and 3rd floors. Maybe 5 ugly putas total. Stayed 5 minutes then took an Uber to Mora Mora who has the same owner.

Mora Mora Pole Dance takes every customer's ID and writes their info on a clipboard. Decent sized club. The patrons seem like normal, decent guys out for a good time. Totally different vibe than Santa Fe. I felt completely secure there even though there were no other foreigners. Maybe 80 chicas. Talent was mostly 5-6's. Maybe one or two that would top out at 6. 5 on their best day. Stayed about an hour then tried the place next to it. Can't remember the name but it sounded Italian. Sucked bad. Like 3 chicas. Left right away and retired for the night.

On Thurs night, a tout directed me to Lido. I had no idea what it was, was bored, so I went it. It was around midnight. It's a big-ass converted mansion turned puta club. Honestly, it felt pretty high class, well about as high class as a puta club can be. Well lit, you can see all the putas from far away too. They keep this place clean. The mop lady comes around every 15 minutes to clean the bar area. Beers were pricey, $50 k but they were charging $60 k claiming VAT. I didn't want to argue so I just paid it. Probably around 50 chicas. Most of them dressed normally. A stage in the middle with topless dancer who would later go around and ask for tips. There was one kinda hot one, an 8, and lots of 6's and 7's. I don't even want to know how much the putas were charging. I just nursed my Heineken for an hour and half before I left. I returned the following Saturday night, it wasn't quite as busy. It was the same thing though.

Saturday night, went to Loutron before Pussy House. I had always thought that Loutron was a massage place. But in Bogota it is an underground puta club. It is a converted house. Not nearly as grand of a mansion as Lido but it was a nicer house that was converted. There were about 15 putas present at 7 pm. There was puta karaoke going on, a dark skinned one belting out her favorite tunes. They all form a lineup every time a new customer enters. All very average looking. Beers were $50 k, water / Gatorade $20 k with no VAT. Stayed for 45 min, got bored and left for Pussy House as described earlier.

Not interested in going to any more clubs in Bogota. The only good one, Lido, is prohibitively expensive. Santa Fe is just a thug's paradise. Pussy House ain't great, neither is Mora Mora. Been working on some SA chicas. One sweet 18 why / o came by yesterday to eat. Supposed to come by again. A couple other really hot SA chicas I've been in constant communication since two weeks before my arrival. Then as soon as I'm here they start flaking out, which should surprise no one. Got some responses on Tinder in Cartagena, but none so far in Bogota.

For those of you that are on the fence about going to Colombia, think about what I just wrote. A seasoned monger of Latin America jolted by the amount of crime. I wouldn't say don't go, but I certainly wouldn't go solo. Cartagena was the funniest mongering destination I've ever been to. Bogota, well, fuck, if you're an obvious foreigner in Santa Fe, you're going to get eyeballed and sized up. I dunno if it's the Venezuelans or Colombians in my case because I can't tell the difference. But be extra careful out there, don't take any chances.I really can't figure this out. In the last several months a few Tijuana regulars have come to Colombia and can't seem to figure out how to get laid. They all think the women are ugly and that everyone is a thief, and each one has people trying to steal from them. Is Tijuana doing something to completely ruin guys ability to monger? Or is it like the Nigerian bobsled team? Their very best can't compete with the worst from most other countries?

Colombia isn't for everyone, but as far as mongering goes, it's like a participation trophy. About the only thing you have to do to get laid is show up.

As far as crime goes, although it's been 30 years since my last visit to Tijuana, I feel a lot more comfortable in Medellin and Bogota than I ever felt in Tijuana.

[Woodman09]

I really can't figure this out. In the last several months a few Tijuana regulars have come to Colombia and can't seem to figure out how to get laid. They all think the women are ugly and that everyone is a thief, and each one has people trying to steal from them. Is Tijuana doing something to completely ruin guys ability to monger? Or is it like the Nigerian bobsled team? Their very best can't compete with the worst from most other countries?

Colombia isn't for everyone, but as far as mongering goes, it's like a participation trophy. About the only thing you have to do to get laid is show up.

As far as crime goes, although it's been 30 years since my last visit to Tijuana, I feel a lot more comfortable in Medellin and Bogota than I ever felt in Tijuana.LOL, I used to live in Chula Vista from 1995-12005 and would drive into Tijuana and be parking in Zona Norte in 10 minutes from my apt. Then it was $30-$40 for un rato.

The girls in Tijuana were always much harder than Colombian and Cuban girls.

I have not been back since 2010 -- and have no plans on returning.

And yes-- Tijuana is way More Dangerous Mexicans are Much More predatory than Colombians and Venezuelans-- I have live outside of the Zona de Tolerencia for 8+ years without any serious problem-.

I walked out of there last night (like I always do) I was there 4 days last week.

Not sure WTF these Tijuana guys are tawkinBout-- LOL.

[Mr Enternational]

.The girls in Tijuana were always much harder than Colombian and Cuban girls. Not sure WTF these Tijuana guys are tawkinBout-- LOL.100%. I have been going to Tijuana since 1990 when I was in the Navy in San Diego. I have no idea how these guys see it as special. It is a place to go when you can't get to a better place and you happen to be in the vicinity. It is nowhere to plan a trip to. If you think Tijuana is the bee's knees, then you have not been many places. It is like eating Big Macs your whole life then someone takes you to a fancy steakhouse and you find all kinds of problems with the steak and want to hurry back to McDonald's.

[Trim1]

BTW, the place I got scammed (cost me $95 and my phone) was not far from your safe area hotel.
How did you get scammed?

[JjBee62]

How did you get scammed?It ended up being a fairly common scam in Bogota for awhile.

An older man in a suit approached me and started asking questions. I couldn't understand much at all back then. While I was trying to tell him I had no clue what he wanted a young man in a suit approached and said he was with the police.

Young guy flashed an ID real fast and started asking questions. Checked both our IDs and started talking about counterfeit money. Led us both off the main street to a place with less people.

What followed was a typical con game. Keep the mark off balance. At some point he wanted to check my phone, then my money, then he wanted both of us to fill out a card with address, and all the other info. Anytime I tried to figure out what was going on the old guy would distract me. Next thing I realized I was standing alone holding a pen and paper and they were both gone along with my phone and $95 worth of pesos.

The money was no big deal, but I sure did like that phone. The worst part is when you realize how dumb you just were.

Lesson learned, if someone tries to talk to me on the street, I keep moving. If they keep trying I enter the nearest business.

[Zeos1]

It ended up being a fairly common scam in Bogota for awhile.

An older man in a suit approached me and started asking questions. I couldn't understand much at all back then. While I was trying to tell him I had no clue what he wanted a young man in a suit approached and said he was with the police.

Young guy flashed an ID real fast and started asking questions. Checked both our IDs and started talking about counterfeit money. Led us both off the main street to a place with less people.

What followed was a typical con game. Keep the mark off balance. At some point he wanted to check my phone, then my money, then he wanted both of us to fill out a card with address, and all the other info. Anytime I tried to figure out what was going on the old guy would distract me. Next thing I realized I was standing alone holding a pen and paper and they were both gone along with my phone and $95 worth of pesos.

The money was no big deal, but I sure did like that phone. The worst part is when you realize how dumb you just were.

Lesson learned, if someone tries to talk to me on the street, I keep moving. If they keep trying I enter the nearest business.I had a very similar experience in Medellin. One guy starts talking, then it turns out he is an undercover cop, then another undercover cop comes up. Showing some sort of ID cards, etc. Then they tag team, keep you off balance, imply that you are being investigated, make an excuse so you get your wallet out, look at your ID, check your money. Walk off with your money while they other guy holds something you value. Your wallet, ID, bank card.

[Chris Columbus]

Hey,

So I updated the map http://colombiasexmap.com/ to include Adriana why sus Golosas and also another site in the south.

I had been looking for "casas" near the airport for our friend of the 4 hour layover and there were 2, but one of them is closed and the other has some very bad reviews regarding stealing the customers so I prefer not to add such sites in the map.

For this guy I think 4 hours is enough to go to Santa Fe, walk, choose and fuck a street walker and go back. But, you need to use Transmilenio. If you go with a Taxi you might risk getting into a huge traffic jam or a protest (last year there were protests all the time in Bogota, and I've read in the news they are coming back this year).

If it's your first time in the city then don't bother, just stay in the airport. This is an operation that needs someone that knows the city and the transmilenio well, the routes are quite complicated since the busses don't stop in all stations and there are also many lines, taking an incorrect transmilenio can mean 30 minutes or more of wasted time. You also need to have a proper card to enter the busses. It's easy for someone that knows exactly where to walk, which bus to take, already has a card, I think that person would not even stress because 4 hours is more than enough..So first of all thank you for your work crating this map for sure was a lot of work, in your opinion which casa has the nice girls? Thanks mate.

[DonMedellin]

Hey,

So I updated the map http://colombiasexmap.com/ to include Adriana why sus Golosas and also another site in the south.

I had been looking for "casas" near the airport for our friend of the 4 hour layover and there were 2, but one of them is closed and the other has some very bad reviews regarding stealing the customers so I prefer not to add such sites in the map.

For this guy I think 4 hours is enough to go to Santa Fe, walk, choose and fuck a street walker and go back. But, you need to use Transmilenio. If you go with a Taxi you might risk getting into a huge traffic jam or a protest (last year there were protests all the time in Bogota, and I've read in the news they are coming back this year).

If it's your first time in the city then don't bother, just stay in the airport. This is an operation that needs someone that knows the city and the transmilenio well, the routes are quite complicated since the busses don't stop in all stations and there are also many lines, taking an incorrect transmilenio can mean 30 minutes or more of wasted time. You also need to have a proper card to enter the busses. It's easy for someone that knows exactly where to walk, which bus to take, already has a card, I think that person would not even stress because 4 hours is more than enough. But if it's your first time in the city I'd advice against it.I wrote a report on that, and it was with one of the cutest girl I have ever been with in Colombia. Glad that I did it.

[Woodman09]

Last week I went to SF many times had a couple tours. Some days were slow but I can usually find a nice girl even when it is slow.

There are soldiers on every corner now, I think the soldier getting jacked for his rifle was such an affront to the military that they just want to dominate the area now.

Wednesday was slow. Thursday was better, not too many guys but a lot of girls in the clubs just sitting around.

Friday was off the hook, many SGs and the clubs had many high quality hotties. We got some lapdances in Fiebre by a really hot 8-9 for 30 mil.

Met some new hot SGs- so I had to go back on Sunday and Monday to make sure they were still hot, LOL.

On Friday I went with a guy to Tantra, it was so average we did not stay. We caught Transmilenio to Calle 106 and walked over to La Mezzanine and there were only 4 girls in 2 shops.

It looks like there are 3 shops but one was sealed for violations. We decided to go to Santa Fe. Caught a cab back to Calle 100 Transmilenio station and headed back.

This is why I love SF because if you go to casas the choice is just a few girls and if they do not peak your fancy you have to walk or ride somewhere else.

No problems, the guys I was with were happy.

[Woodman09]

Transmilenio card costs 6 mil, to enter the station it is 2800 mil or so. Not sure but the card may work in other cities?

There are usually 3-4 docks to get on buses in the stations. You can see which buses stop at which docks by cards above the sliding doors, the cards also have a list of stations.

Some buses stop every stop some will skip 3-10+ stops so you must know your route.

If the info system in the bus is working it will say the next 2 stops.

Sometimes during Rushhour the bus lanes jam up with 20+ buses and it is best to get off a stop or 2 before your stop and hoof it.

Be careful in deserted stops, years ago a friend of mine was robbed.

Santa Fe is Calle 22.

[LatinaLover#1]

Does anyone know if this home test I got from the CDC admissible to re-enter the USA from Colombia?

https://ihealthlabs.com/

[Mr Enternational]

Does anyone know if this home test I got from the CDC admissible to re-enter the USA from Colombia?

https://ihealthlabs.com/As long as it is one where you connect to video and they monitor you taking the test and send you the certified results in email. I see they do 2 for $67. That is 137,000 pesos each.

[JohnnyWishBone]

I decided, after speaking to a fellow ISGer, to go take a stroll around SF around 12.30 ish today. First impressions is the area is rundown and there were a lot of soldiers on every corner of the area. I am sure they were all checking out the women on show.

I did about 5 or 6 laps overall, checking out all the women and actually finding my bearings. Most people recognised me as I walked back and forth, looking slightly lost. No one bothered me, I had my hands in my pockets and waterproof jacket zipped up. I stick out as I am of oriental parentage, so I got a lot of "China, China!" I'm not chinese.

I could have easily gone with 5 or 6, but in the end I went with one girl at the Paradise Hotel, 24 yo from Medellín. Rato (20 minutes) with oral natural for 100.000 plus a further 10 for the room. She was enthusiastic, really putting in effort to please, lovely figure with signs of baby marks. I took her number to see if she fancies a session outside of SF.

First impressions of SF are that it looks to be a good hunting ground. I think a daytime stroll is also good, I didn't feel uneasy or threatened; having armed soldiers probably has an effect on the area. I like the idea of rato meets to try many as possible. On the hunt for some 18 yo to try out this week.

[HarvestBoi]

Fwiw, I just came back to the us from Canada and used those tests with a video proctor with no problem. They sent me the results before the call was finished LOL. But nobody ever asked to show them at the airport? Maybe they electronically send it to whoever via your passport.


Does anyone know if this home test I got from the CDC admissible to re-enter the USA from Colombia?

https://ihealthlabs.com/.

[Mr Enternational]

I decided, after speaking to a fellow ISGer, to go take a stroll around SF around 12.30 ish today. First impressions is the area is rundown and there were a lot of soldiers on every corner of the area. I am sure they were all checking out the women on show.2 nights ago the place was full of those military police. I have never seen them there before. They were busy searching cars and did not seem to have the time to check out women. 100,000 should get you at least an hour and many times overnight. I do not think there are even any clubs there that charge that much for only 20 minutes.

[FlashShaker]

2 nights ago the place was full of those military police. I have never seen them there before. They were busy searching cars and did not seem to have the time to check out women. 100,000 should get you at least an hour and many times overnight. I do not think there are even any clubs there that charge that much for only 20 minutes.He did say he looked obviously foreign (Asian descent) and appeared lost. So he got hit w / the noob gringo tax LOL.

[DonMedellin]

He did say he looked obviously foreign (Asian descent) and appeared lost. So he got hit w / the noob gringo tax LOL.During my first visit to Mezzanine (right before the pandemic), a lady wanted 120 mil for 20 minutes. I said no thank you and went to the next room where I paid less than that for a full hour.

[Aureliano16]

So first of all thank you for your work crating this map for sure was a lot of work, in your opinion which casa has the nice girls? Thanks mate.Depends of what is a "nice girl" for you. For me what I look forward in a sex worker is big tits, asses, a lot of gym and a flat stomach. No matter if tits, lips, eyebrows or everything is fake. These girls lie about everything, even their age.

So. For this kind of girls if money is not a problem I'd go for Loutron, but it is a bit expensive for colombian standards. You find almost the same quality of girls in Absolut Spa for about 2/3 of the price. Absolut Spa also has the highest amount of girls at any time of the day. Loutron OTOH has very few girls on the morning / early evening.

I've found amazing girls in Sensity Spa as well. All the others sites between Absolut and Sensity are a hit or miss, but sometimes you find gold.

If what you seek is more natural looking girls I'd recommend Tantra Spa. It's also a lot cheaper.

If you are looking for adrenaline, adventure and probably the cheapest hooker on the entire west, go to Blue Star Video where you can fuck for USD 8. 50 and can negotiate all kind of additional, anal, etc for very few money. Would not recommend if you look foreigner and have any appreciation for your life though.

All references sites can be found in the map of course: http://colombiasexmap.com/.

[JjBee62]

He did say he looked obviously foreign (Asian descent) and appeared lost. So he got hit w / the noob gringo tax LOL.Just my opinion:

I believe it doesn't matter what you look like. You could be Colombian, or have 3 arms, blue skin and a horn growing out of your head. If you're walking around like Jethro on his first trip to the big city, everyone is going to know. If you're walking around like you've lived there your whole life, you'll not attract much attention.

[Turgid]

Depends of what is a "nice girl" for you. For me what I look forward in a sex worker is big tits, asses, a lot of gym and a flat stomach.......So for you a nice girl is a Brazilian. She'll also throw in great service in the mix for you.

[BearEmy84]

Let me preface this by saying I'm the gringo'est gringo that ever gringo'ed. Appearance, Spanish, everything. Can't hide it. Got a girl's number last night and was saved as Bearemy Gringo.

I've been down to Santa Fe probably 5 times now. There's some truth in what everyone says. It's definitely a sketchy area. However, am I constantly looking over my shoulder fearing for my life? Absolutely the fuck not. At most, I walk with my hands in my pockets covering my phone / cash. And I'm careful about where I use my phone. During the day, it feels a little sketchier than at night. Can't say why, just a feeling. The area is currently swarming with military and police. They're just there for security. They don't care what you do, so don't worry about them. Just try to avoid drug use in front of the cops. Also, when you're done I suggest you hang out inside a club and wait for your cabify.

I've scratched the surface with a couple street girls and club girls. Street girls are 40-45 COP, club girls are 60-80, unless you're at a high-end club like paisas or troya. You can tell if its a 60 k place or not by the quality of girls.

All-in, 300-400 cop is enough to have a hell of a fun night. $75-$100 USD. I think I only spent about 210 COP last night. 2 x ratos with a club girl, and 1 with a street girl. And a couple waters.

If it's your first time, don't be surprised to get harassed by guys on the street to go to certain clubs. They're in uniforms, it's easy to tell who they are. It's fine to go with them. They'll find you a table, get you a seat and a drink. If you don't want a drink, tip them 1 or 2 COP to go away.

The girls vary in performance as much as they vary in appearance. If you find someone you want to bang, it's worth talking to them for a few minutes just to see if you get along. Nothing's worse than dry pussy from a girl who doesn't like you.

All-in-all, Santa Fe's not that bad a place. Definitely riskier than the rest of Bogota, but it's not bad. Especially if you go with a +1, you'll be just fine. Just don't wander outside of the district.

Also, don't go alone your first time. Hit up Woodman for a tour. It's not expensive and it's worth it to learn the area / clubs and how the girls work.

[Mr Enternational]

Street girls are 40-45 COP, club girls are 60-80, .

The girls vary in performance as much as they vary in appearance. If you find someone you want to bang, it's worth talking to them for a few minutes just to see if you get along. At those prices I never care if we are going to get along or not. It is worth the 40K just to see them nekkit and rub on them. Don't work out? I'm off to find another chick for another $10. I am really just in it for the adventure rather than needing to find a chick to provide really great sex.

[BearEmy84]

At those prices I never care if we are going to get along or not. It is worth the 40K just to see them nekkit and rub on them. Don't work out? I'm off to find another chick for another $10. I am really just in it for the adventure rather than needing to find a chick to provide really great sex.I'm more limited by energy / nuts per night than I am by money. Sure, it's an all-you-can-eat buffet. You could come fuck 10 girls in a night for $100 (or a bit more.).

But I know I can really only do 3 or 4.

I made the mistake last night of not going for my first until about 11 PM, instead of picking one right away and letting myself recover.

[Balboa]

At those prices I never care if we are going to get along or not. It is worth the 40K just to see them nekkit and rub on them. Don't work out? I'm off to find another chick for another $10. I am really just in it for the adventure rather than needing to find a chick to provide really great sex.Glad that works for you.

I'm with BearEmy though, I don't care if I'm in Santa Fe or an upscale spot somewhere, I always chat at least a bit to feel the energy together.

I've been in Bogota for a few days now. What BearEmy posted was spot on.

I don't feel any danger at all, however, always keep my guard up.

Found a few sweethearts in Santa Fe. Total GFE.

Almost always stay more time than the "rato".

Never a problem with the door knock.

I explain to the motel attendant / time keeper beforehand what's up, and make the deal for a " no knock" time LOL.

Off to Medellin soon.

[Mtljay]

The official number today USD: COP is 4089.20, What are you guys getting at the ATM or should I bring USD and change it at a bank?

[BearEmy84]

The official number today USD: COP is 4089.20, What are you guys getting at the ATM or should I bring USD and change it at a bank?Bring USD and exchange it at a money exchange store in a mall. You can get the best rates there, in my experience.

[Woodman09]

The official number today USD: COP is 4089.20, What are you guys getting at the ATM or should I bring USD and change it at a bank?Most banks except BanColombia give the rate from the day before-.

Recent transaction at Pinchicha 800 mil for $197.22.

Davienda 2 million for $493.05.

Both gave me rate of 4056.

Davivienda bank gives you 2 million at a time-- others 900 mil -- If you have a Schwab card ATM is free.

[JjBee62]

Just arrived at 1 pm from Medellin and I fly home in the morning. Staying at Aloft Hotel, which I've decided is the perfect compromise location.

The room is nice and I like the design. The area is quiet and it's just a short walk to Portal El Dorado, the first or last Transmilenio stop on the line to the airport. That means quick access to and from Santa Fe without taxis.

I emailed them to schedule a Covid Test in my room for 4 pm today. They made the appointment and confirmed by email, reconfirmed when I checked in and called just before 3 pm to tell me they had arrived to test me.

The test was done with a home testing kit, so I saw the results in just a few minutes and by 4:10 pm I had received the email certificate.

Cost of King room at Aloft - $60.

Cost of Covid Antigen test -120 k.

[JjBee62]

Bring USD and exchange it at a money exchange store in a mall. You can get the best rates there, in my experience.But only do this if you want to lose money on the deal. Exchange houses in Bogota were giving 3880 today. If you Exchange $500 at a money exchange you'll get 100 k less than from a no fee ATM, if your bank doesn't add any fees.

It's not a huge deal and depending on your bank, currency exchange might be a better deal.

[JjBee62]

I had already decided not to go to Santa Fe tonight, although that was my original plan. However, when I learned Balboa was in Santa Fe I knew it was my duty to risk my life and save him from all the hardened criminals.

Fortunately, since it's Monday, almost all of the criminals were flaccid, with a few who were semi-aroused. I don't think the fully erect, hardened criminals come out until later in the week.

I lost track of the number of times I was robbed, stabbed and shot, although I know I was only raped twice. After the second time, I figured I might as well take the 20 k and get it over with. Made 200 k in 45 minutes, but then I got robbed again. Looking for a sperm bank now to see if they'll take secondhand donations out of my ass. At least bent over I didn't have to see all of the fat, ugly and disgusting women.

Now for the true story. Met up with Balboa, walked around a bit, had a very nice dinner, walked around some more, we went our separate ways, and after a bit more walking I headed to the Transmilenio for a quick return to my hotel.

There were quite a few soldiers around, saw one guy getting searched, but it was all pretty calm. I didn't see anyone that caused me any worry. I did get a bit annoyed at a few of the touts, but only because I was trying to figure out where I was and where Balboa was.

The area is grubby, not terribly so. All the people were just normal people doing normal things, except for the girls who were normal working girls doing normal working girl things.

About the girls, I'm not a street girl aficionado. I enjoy the ambiance of the area and like to look, but it's not really my thing. Tonight I wished it was my thing and that I wasn't feeling drained. I wasn't keeping count, but I'm not exaggerating when I say there were at least 30 girls who I would happily pay 200 k in Medellin. That's on Monday night, just on the street, without going into any clubs.

I'm not super picky, but I prefer them to be slender and well proportioned. I don't like fake boobs and butts. There were plenty of girlsvwho were too big for me, or with fake boobs or butter. There were several who were older and several who I would definitely check the cedula.

Based on what I just experienced, if you can't find any girls in Santa Fe that you find attractive, there's something wrong with you. One of the first girls I saw blew me away. Then I saw 10 more who were just as attractive.

If street girls are your thing, Santa Fe should be on your itinerary.

[Woodman09]

About the girls, I'm not a street girl aficionado. I enjoy the ambiance of the area and like to look, but it's not really my thing. Tonight I wished it was my thing and that I wasn't feeling drained. I wasn't keeping count, but I'm not exaggerating when I say there were at least 30 girls who I would happily pay 200 k in Medellin. That's on Monday night, just on the street, without going into any clubs.

I'm not super picky, but I prefer them to be slender and well proportioned. I don't like fake boobs and butts. There were plenty of girlsvwho were too big for me, or with fake boobs or butter. There were several who were older and several who I would definitely check the cedula.

Based on what I just experienced, if you can't find any girls in Santa Fe that you find attractive, there's something wrong with you. One of the first girls I saw blew me away. Then I saw 10 more who were just as attractive.

If street girls are your thing, Santa Fe should be on your itinerary.LOL, very funny. I was in SF on Saturday with a friend we walked around for 3 hours between banging Streetie Sweeties. There was a great selection. Went into Troya and there were many hotties. I love the street meat because they are usually newer younger girls.

I ended up leaving about 11;30 walked out there were soldiers everywhere, very comforting. I guess they are there 24 hours now.

[GauntMan]

The official number today USD: COP is 4089.20, What are you guys getting at the ATM or should I bring USD and change it at a bank?In all my trips, I've never been able to get full exchange rate from any place!! All places were giving around 3800 or a bit higher, and this was even before the pandemic, when the highest rate was around 3900.

[LatinaLover#1]

And you never will, in Colombia. I use XE.com to get the official rate and if you get within 100 pesos of that, your doing good. The only place I ever got equal to or even slightly above the official rate was in Rio. There was a small jewelry store on Miguel Lemos that gave great rates if you had $100 bills. It was crazy, this place has the door wide open, no guards nothing but they were changing money like crazy, Never a hold up, nothing! I once said to the boss, you don't need a guard? He looked at me and laughed. Obviously connected. If you messed with these guys you would end up in tires jaja.

[Zeos1]

In all my trips, I've never been able to get full exchange rate from any place!! All places were giving around 3800 or a bit higher, and this was even before the pandemic, when the highest rate was around 3900.The quoted rate is usually the mid market rate, meaning midway (more or less) between the buy and sell rate. So no one gets that, unless you might be helping out someone to exchange currency that otherwise would have trouble doing it (ie money laundering).

[JjBee62]

The question was recently asked if 4 hours is enough time to leave the airport, get a girl and get back to the airport. The answer is yes.

Last night I left Hotel Aloft, which is a short walk away from the Portal El Dorado Transmilenio station, at 7 pm. I walked to the station, got on the bus and went to Santa Fe. I was in Santa Fe for about 1 hour 30 minutes and was back in the hotel by 9:20.

If you add 20 minutes for the bus from the airport to Portal El Dorado and 20 for the bus back (which is excessive), it can easily by done in 3 hours.

The bus to Santa Fe is route L10 and get off at Calle 22. The bus back is route K10 and Portal El Dorado is the last stop. I think cost was 2350 pesos each way. You'll need to get a Tu Llave card and put some money on it. It doesn't expire. I still had enough on my card from last year, but added 10 k more.

Of course, it helps when you hand the money and the Tu Llave card to the woman in the booth instead of money and your hotel room key card.

[JjBee62]

The official number today USD: COP is 4089.20, What are you guys getting at the ATM or should I bring USD and change it at a bank?I just checked my statement and punched it into the calculator. Sunday evening I used my Navy Federal check card at a Davivienda ATM. I withdrew 520 k and I was charged $127.26. That comes to 4086.123 COP per dollar. The Visa exchange rate on Sunday was 4086.

Navy Federal has no fees and reimburses other bank ATM fees, although only $5 per month.

I also withdrew 2 million from my Fifth Third card at a cost of $489.47, or 4086.052 COP per USD.

Formerly, Fifth Third charged about 5% in fees, so I could get a bit better rate shopping around the exchange houses. I'm not sure when they got rid of the fees.

[DonMedellin]

The question was recently asked if 4 hours is enough time to leave the airport, get a girl and get back to the airport. The answer is yes.I did it recently and it was totally doable if your layover is 4 hours. Unless you speak good Spanish, make sure you buy a transit card (believe it was 6 k cop) before leaving the arrival hall and charge enough money for two trips (say "dos viajes" If you are heading to or from Medellin, I don't think it is worth husstle. But it is doable in my experience.

[DonCarlos1234]

My first trip To BOG 1 hour after checking in. 2 teenagers (drug addicts) ran after me in the middle of the main street downtown. Fortunately my time spent in Tijuana taught me to see out of the back of my head. Spun around grabbed one, threw him into the street. The other grabbed for the wallet. I grabbed him, we went down in traffic fighting while busses went by. . I kicked him in the balls. 20 Killer bees showed up. Beat the living hell out of them. Years ago. While walking with Woodman an old woman stopped to ask me?'s. (daylight downtown) her accomplice stole my fake (Mexican wallet 25 pesos) MORALE - 1st go to HKTJ watch the drug dealers from their restaurant balcony. Maybe see some gun play. (I have) Then go to BOG. You will be safe (sort of). Better yet- Watch the movie (was it a real story?) Nick Gage made in BOG next door to BD Bacatá where I stayed. One night there were 20 killer bees racing after some criminal and one was standing on the back of the motorcycle shooting at them. Big gun! WOW, this was not a movie. Running with the Devil. That actress is HOT!

[Woodman09]

My first trip To BOG 1 hour after checking in. 2 teenagers (drug addicts) ran after me in the middle of the main street downtown. Fortunately my time spent in Tijuana taught me to see out of the back of my head. Spun around grabbed one, threw him into the street. The other grabbed for the wallet. I grabbed him, we went down in traffic fighting while busses went by. . I kicked him in the balls. 20 Killer bees showed up. Beat the living hell out of them. Years ago. While walking with Woodman an old woman stopped to ask me?'s. (daylight downtown) her accomplice stole my fake (Mexican wallet 25 pesos) MORALE - 1st go to HKTJ watch the drug dealers from their restaurant balcony. Maybe see some gun play. (I have) Then go to BOG. You will be safe (sort of). Better yet- Watch the movie (was it a real story?) Nick Gage made in BOG next door to BD Bacat where I stayed. One night there were 20 killer bees racing after some criminal and one was standing on the back of the motorcycle shooting at them. Big gun! WOW, this was not a movie. Running with the Devil. That actress is HOT!OK Don Carlos-- the first incident happened at 2-3 in the morning which is a bit like the Night of the Living Dead when you are downtown and you did have a cane.

The pickpocket incident; I was a little ways from him in a crowd and I was wondering why why this lady was talking to him-- they were quick-- and DC did not even know until a minute or two later-.

Again you were using a cane which attracts scumbags.

[Kk989]

Few quick notes from my recent visit to Bogota. As I mentioned in my previous post "Zaira" gave me her cell number for "next time" which I used. She came to my hotel for a 2 HR date for 380 mil. Upcharge for BBBJ was 40 mil. So all in less than what her agency rates would be. I love this chica. We mesh really well. Split a couple bottles of wine, ate some snacks I had prepared. She's a real sweetheart. I'm planning to see her again soon. Her age on the agency page is a lie, as she's a few years older. My original guess of late 20's was accurate.

The next day I felt like I needed a lunch break from work and looked to see who was available and picked "Natalia" from eroticas Bogota dot com. She only has one picture online, but if you message them over whatsapp, they'll send more. She's stunning, easily one of the best looking girls I've been with in the hobby. Beautiful face, smile, white teeth, perfect hourglass body. Speaks decent, but not fluent english. Definitely decent enough for an hour or two. Was a bit odd in that she asked to use my condoms rather than the ones she brought. Her CBJ was forgettable, as they all are. But once in, ughhh. She's a closed lip kisser. We moved through a few positions and I came in doggy because that. Ass. The agency page is also lying about her age. She's advertised at 19, but she's 23-24. I know that because she told me she was a flight attendant for a couple of years until covid, and I know you can't do that unless you're at least 18. So. Math. She's at least 22. Not that it terribly matters, but figured I'd point out the agency lies.

[Thanx]

Hi,

First time in Bogota, staying for a week from 15th. Request fellow members currently in Bogota to kindly PM me, need some guidance please.

[DonCarlos1234]

OK Don Carlos-- the first incident happened at 2-3 in the morning which is a bit like the Night of the Living Dead when you are downtown and you did have a cane.

The pickpocket incident; I was a little ways from him in a crowd and I was wondering why why this lady was talking to him-- they were quick-- and DC did not even know until a minute or two later-.

Again you were using a cane which attracts scumbags.If I had a cane it would have been easier to bash the kids with. I bring it when I am in Santa.

FE.

[Balboa]

Specifically Santa Fe.

I was suppose to leave for Medellin a few days ago, however, this has been so good and fun, I've extended here in Bogota a couple times now.

I love Santa Fe.

Other guys may feel in danger, may not like the appearance of it all, I get that, however, I dig it!

I'm just a regular guy, however, I'm well traveled, experienced in the game and speak very good, non native Spanish.

The past week plus walking about Santa Fe I've met some pretty cool chicas.

Most girls I either walk by, ignore, say Hey, hola, whatever, however, I've really hit it off with several special chicas.

Total lovey dovey times, and again, no door knocks, because I iron all that out before entering the room.

The Military Police guys that are all around Santa Fe are mostly pretty cool.

I've had good conversations with groups of them throughout my stay.

Most are pretty curious about the USA, some like to practice their english.

I'm prior military, so we talk a little about that as well.

Walking around now, I get lots of fist bumps from these guys, LOL.

Last night one MP directed me against the wall for a random search, another one of them approached and said "no, no el es un amigo", and we chatted a little and I moved on.

The regular police are out as well, mostly stopping cars and motos checking them out.

I'm not really a club guy, I enjoy the street scene, tho I stop in at times.

I find the street girls generally much more sweet, less pro.

Obviously there are the street hard pros out, I just keep walking by them. No big deal.

Fun times!

I'll eventually get to Medellin, got a few Paisas I want to see.

For now, the Chamas of Santa Fe have been good to me.

[Balboa]

Specifically Santa Fe.

I was suppose to leave for Medellin a few days ago, however, this has been so good and fun, I've extended here in Bogota a couple times now.

I love Santa Fe.
I left a cool part out.

I spotted a very hot girl a few days ago who has a potato chip / candy stand.

I've casually walked by and said Hola a few times, with no real response.

Until yesterday.

Yesterday I saw her walking up the street and towards her candy stand.

I discreetly followed her.

When she got there, there was someone else attending the stand, and she chatted with her.

I sat down on a concrete pillar nearby and stared a bit, smiled some, trying not to look like an idiot, LOL.

She eventually walked my way, I said Hola and we engaged.

I convinced her of what a cool guy I am and that I'd love to make a friendship and hinted at my generosity to girls who take of me.

Well, low and behold, we ended up in a motel room together, and boy oh boy did we have fun.

She literally attacked me, and all natural.

Like I said, Bogota is good to me.

[Ejjlk8274]

I am arriving fairly late to Bogota and I think the earliest I'll be ready to go out is 11 pm. At the same time it is a pity to lose a night staying in hotel. Days off from work are limited so wasting just one of them does not make me happy.

So I wonder if taking a taxi / uber and visiting one or two clubs in Santa Fe (it seems they are all located around a single block) is a stupid idea from safety point of view? Are they open at that time? Are there good attendance and choice of options at this time in the middle of the week?

Any other recommendations for something fun to do for a few hours between 11 pm and 1 am?

[JackTaggart]

Figured I would give a quick summary of my first two weeks back in Bogota. The Mezz is the winner compared to Spas so far. Just like my last trip, I got much better affection at the mezz. I am leaving out my seeking stuff for now. I am prioritizing seeking though and getting good results. I'll be trying out swinger clubs and going to Santa Fe for sure over the next couple of weeks.

Side question. Has anyone gone to http://gloryholebogota.com/ at Calle 65 A # 13 -68? They have gangbangs posted and I think I am going to check out the event Tuesday night. I chatted with them on WhatsApp today but needed a rest day. There are lots of love motels near by so my plan if its a bust is to get an agency girl around the corner. If anyone has some info though I would love to hear it.

1) Mezz Day 1 - I went around 11:30 am on a Wednesday. I took a right when walking up the stairs and went to the last (and I think only?) open door. I was brought into the room for the "Line up". I think there was a total of 3 women there, but I met two. I went with maybe a 18-22 year old girl. I didn't get tongue kissing but got GFE other than that. Damage was 150 mil if I recall correctly. More of a spinner type. Had an awesome time.

2) Day 2 - I went around 11:30 am on a Thursday and went straight when I went up the stairs and went to the last door. Got another 18-22 year old girl, this time with braces. Got tons of ball licking this time without asking. She was a little thicker, but super affectionate. Had an awesome time.

3) Day 2 - Around 7 pm and went straight and went to the first door. I wasn't thrilled about the options but I went with a nice personality girl. I couldn't get off with sex with the condom and since she wasn't exactly my type, but she let me go down on her and came in 69 with her on top. Yes, I know I am a degenerate for going down on a girl at the end of the night.

4) A Saturday around 11:00 am Sensity Spa CL 77 #13-22. Only two women working. Both early 30's. I went with the one that answered the door and got OK treatment. She was super nice but nothing special. 200 mil and then 50 mil upcharge for oral natural. Like a robot.

5) A Wednesday around 5:30 pm Avispitas Spa Carrera 14 # 78-22. I had actually tried this place the past Saturday around 11:00 am and there was only one early 30's woman working and she was with someone. I came back and it seemed like there was 2-3 women working this time, but only one free. Early to mid 30's with enhanced boobs. Not my type, but I was horny and figured I would give it a go. 250 k mil for an hour. Service very mechanical. Not great but I got off.

[Woodman09]

I am arriving fairly late to Bogota and I think the earliest I'll be ready to go out is 11 pm. At the same time it is a pity to lose a night staying in hotel. Days off from work are limited so wasting just one of them does not make me happy.

So I wonder if taking a taxi / uber and visiting one or two clubs in Santa Fe (it seems they are all located around a single block) is a stupid idea from safety point of view? Are they open at that time? Are there good attendance and choice of options at this time in the middle of the week?

Any other recommendations for something fun to do for a few hours between 11 pm and 1 am?Depends on what day-- Sunday would not be so good usually. I would go anyway. On good nights they are great at that time. I have been in the clubs until 3-4, although not usually.

The street action in that area can be great too.

[Kib123]

4) A Saturday around 11:00 am Sensity Spa CL 77 #13-22. Only two women working. Both early 30's. I went with the one that answered the door and got OK treatment. She was super nice but nothing special. 200 mil and then 50 mil upcharge for oral natural. Like a robot.

5) A Wednesday around 5:30 pm Avispitas Spa Carrera 14 # 78-22. I had actually tried this place the past Saturday around 11:00 am and there was only one early 30's woman working and she was with someone. I came back and it seemed like there was 2-3 women working this time, but only one free. Early to mid 30's with enhanced boobs. Not my type, but I was horny and figured I would give it a go. 250 k mil for an hour. Service very mechanical. Not great but I got off.Good report Jack, but you picked the absolute worst spas. Virtually all spas between CL72 and 100, and east of CR20 are ripoff joints in my opinion. You get better value and performance in the spas further north, past Mezz.

[Kib123]

Few quick notes from my recent visit to Bogota. As I mentioned in my previous post "Zaira" gave me her cell number for "next time" which I used. She came to my hotel for a 2 HR date for 380 mil. Upcharge for BBBJ was 40 mil. So all in less than what her agency rates would be. I love this chica. We mesh really well. Split a couple bottles of wine, ate some snacks I had prepared. She's a real sweetheart. I'm planning to see her again soon. Her age on the agency page is a lie, as she's a few years older. My original guess of late 20's was accurate.

The next day I felt like I needed a lunch break from work and looked to see who was available and picked "Natalia" from eroticas Bogota dot com. She only has one picture online, but if you message them over whatsapp, they'll send more. She's stunning, easily one of the best looking girls I've been with in the hobby. Beautiful face, smile, white teeth, perfect hourglass body. Speaks decent, but not fluent english. Definitely decent enough for an hour or two. Was a bit odd in that she asked to use my condoms rather than the ones she brought. Her CBJ was forgettable, as they all are. But once in, ughhh. She's a closed lip kisser. We moved through a few positions and I came in doggy because that. Ass. The agency page is also lying about her age. She's advertised at 19, but she's 23-24. I know that because she told me she was a flight attendant for a couple of years until covid, and I know you can't do that unless you're at least 18. So. Math. She's at least 22. Not that it terribly matters, but figured I'd point out the agency lies.Thanks for the update and cautionary tale on Natalia. I have seen Zaira multiple times and she's a trooper. Lately though I have also not had much luck with eroticas Bogota ladies. A series of lackluster performances in a row. Will look elsewhere next time.

[YankeeFan]

I had a very similar experience in Medellin. One guy starts talking, then it turns out he is an undercover cop, then another undercover cop comes up. Showing some sort of ID cards, etc. Then they tag team, keep you off balance, imply that you are being investigated, make an excuse so you get your wallet out, look at your ID, check your money. Walk off with your money while they other guy holds something you value. Your wallet, ID, bank card.Sounds just like something that happened to me in Madrid. Two guys flashed IDs, said they wanted to check my money for drug residue. Fortunately, some more people came down the street, and they scrammed.

[JackTaggart]

Good report Jack, but you picked the absolute worst spas. Virtually all spas between CL72 and 100, and east of CR20 are ripoff joints in my opinion. You get better value and performance in the spas further north, past Mezz.I know now! I wanted to provide the recent report for others considering it. They were walking distance from where I am staying too.

I have gone down the rabbit hole of twitter for the swinger clubs and that gloryhole club in my post. I know its not everyone's thing. It seems very promising though based on what I am seeing.

[JohnnyWalker55]

I am arriving fairly late to Bogota and I think the earliest I'll be ready to go out is 11 pm. At the same time it is a pity to lose a night staying in hotel. Days off from work are limited so wasting just one of them does not make me happy.

So I wonder if taking a taxi / uber and visiting one or two clubs in Santa Fe (it seems they are all located around a single block) is a stupid idea from safety point of view? Are they open at that time? Are there good attendance and choice of options at this time in the middle of the week?

Any other recommendations for something fun to do for a few hours between 11 pm and 1 am?Not bad at all, just uber straight to club troya or club paisa or venus, do the deed, and uber right back to the hotel. You can wait for the uber inside the club. Tons of police around lately.

[Mechanic88]

I know now! I wanted to provide the recent report for others considering it. They were walking distance from where I am staying too.

I have gone down the rabbit hole of twitter for the swinger clubs and that gloryhole club in my post. I know its not everyone's thing. It seems very promising though based on what I am seeing.I'll be in Colombia this weekend thinking about going to a swinger club let me know how it goes.

[Joker143]

Hi guys,

I saw a website in one of the review but I missed it. The review had a website about a girl called Natalia or Natasha and it had a website. I am not sure who posted it. I want that website. It's an agency website. The models had small video clips. I love it. If I'll know please let me know.

[Joker143]

Hi guys,

I am in Bogota right now. I'd appreciate if you guys pass some contacts. I struggle with the language so it was so hard to bring a girl home from dance bars. I'd love to explore the finest massage parlors or Chicas in town. If you guys have any contacts please DM me. Thanks in advance.

[Joker143]

I can't seem to find the name of the Mezz spa. Can you please help find this one? Nice review.


Figured I would give a quick summary of my first two weeks back in Bogota. The Mezz is the winner compared to Spas so far. Just like my last trip, I got much better affection at the mezz. I am leaving out my seeking stuff for now. I am prioritizing seeking though and getting good results. I'll be trying out swinger clubs and going to Santa Fe for sure over the next couple of weeks.

Side question. Has anyone gone to http://gloryholebogota.com/ at Calle 65 A # 13 -68? They have gangbangs posted and I think I am going to check out the event Tuesday night. I chatted with them on WhatsApp today but needed a rest day. There are lots of love motels near by so my plan if its a bust is to get an agency girl around the corner. If anyone has some info though I would love to hear it.

1) Mezz Day 1 - I went around 11:30 am on a Wednesday. I took a right when walking up the stairs and went to the last (and I think only?) open door. I was brought into the room for the "Line up". I think there was a total of 3 women there, but I met two. I went with maybe a 18-22 year old girl. I didn't get tongue kissing but got GFE other than that. Damage was 150 mil if I recall correctly. More of a spinner type. Had an awesome time..

[Kk989]

Thanks for the update and cautionary tale on Natalia.

And just to clarify, I wasn't disappointed with the date. She's gorgeous, has a great body, specifically amazing hip to waist ratio and ass. She was fun in bed and speaks decent english. I'm happy with that. But just wanted to point out the couple oddities.

Re your comment, lackluster performances, it seems they've added lots of girls, basically doubling their roster and maybe some of them are newer/not up to snuff.

[LatinaLover#1]

Hi guys,

I am in Bogota right now. I'd appreciate if you guys pass some contacts. I struggle with the language so it was so hard to bring a girl home from dance bars. I'd love to explore the finest massage parlors or Chicas in town. If you guys have any contacts please DM me. Thanks in advance.Go to mezzanine, on 15 Cra. Accross from Dann Carliton, Seems like they get some neighbor girls there and if you find one you like get her WA and make some dates for later. I met a few this way a few years ago. One imparticular was outstanding. I kept in touch with her for years, we met up on almost every trip and always had a good time and never for more than 200 cop. No talk of time limt or price or any negatives. Only good girlfriend sex and never any drama. Hit up the Mezz. A few times and find one. Always a good alternative.

[BearEmy84]

2 new casas for the map.

Cr 35 and 62 _35.

Across the Av from the Movistar stadium. Full of independents. You can find a few of them on photoprepagos. More like Mezz than a casa.

Cr25 cl73-29.

On CL73 bis, near Mi Ranchito spa (legit.) To enter this one, there's a small "restaurant" downstairs and you need to ask for the spa, then they will send you upstairs. Traditional casa type setup, but they let the chicas negotiate their own rates.

Has anyone had luck at Cra. 20 c, 73 - 09? I can't find much info on this one.

[JackTaggart]

So I made a quick visit around 5:30 pm today. http://gloryholebogota.com/ Not a swingers club at all. But if you are into the adult theater scene in the US you would like it.

They have gloryholes although those I did not check them out. There are pictures and videos on their twitter, but its pretty much what I expected out of Bogota gloryholes. I was there for the posted gangbang event 30,000 cop. I think condoms would be extra but I brought my own. I confirmed info via whatsapp.

Upstairs there was a big room with a couch and tv and side rooms, almost like a casa. They give you a little lock and key for the lockers which is kind of nice. There were a couple of guys, a clothed couple, and a girl on a small bed getting a naked massage by a guy. There was a super cute, late 20's, petite woman. I sat around for 5 minutes and she was sort of in and out of the rooms. She motioned to me and we went into one of them and pretty much just got down to it. A guy came in, I assume it was her husband or boyfriend based on the interaction, and she asked if it was OK if he watched. I don't really care so I said si. It was a great lay, but no BJ. I probably could have asked but I was just going with the flow. I am almost certain that you can stay and have sex multiple times (of course if it works out for all involved). No money changed hands inside.

I think this place has a lot of promise if you are into that sort of thing. I am going to be back for sure when I see a good event posted. The entrance was real obvious. A paper sign said Cabinas Privada. They open the door and the check in is super easy.

Twitter.
At EventosGHoleVIP.
At Glory_holeVIP.

[EarthEatMoon]

Long time reader. First time monger. Just got my paid membership. Going to arrive in Bogota may 31 after the election, hopefully no riots LOL. Going to be staying at the Tequendama suites and hit up Santa Fe. Going to try get one of the famous Woodman tours. Also maybe hit up the Mezz and tantra spa. Will post trip report.

[Joker143]

Today I had a chance to go to Fiebre sex club. The area was scary for me initially. I'm a gringo. They took me upstairs. Bottle of Absolut vodka was 250,000 water bottle is 20,000 and dance was 40,000. The guy told me the dance was just 30,000 but later he changed. So got to be careful. The girls are hot! Can't go wrong. Some are strippers they dance and there are hookers as well. They ask for 100,000 for hooking up. I'm sure they'll charge more once the game is over. Overall a great place if you are looking to have fun. I thought the drinks were expensive. That's just me.

Can someone please help with Mezza address? Are there any other strip clubs for late nights. Also guys please share some good Colombian girls massage place. I don't want Thai. Please that's more important for me tomorrow.

Thanks all.

[Woodman09]

I was supposed to have a date at my place with a club girl I know. She ended up not showing up and dark on WA-- Very strange because I know her 6 months or so, I hope she is OK.

She is so hot like an 8+ 19 yo super white skin reminds me of Bridgett Bardot-- I'm supposed to help her start an Only Fans.

I actually made a funny video about meeting her tonight before she was supposed to showed up please, turn on audio- https://imgur.com/gallery/x3HU6Ul.

So no show from Alejandra and I had taken my Vitamin V-- So I was off to Santa Fe about 11 p. It was pretty dead, hardly any traffic but there were probably 20+ girls in the main area-- About 8+ were Hot.

I went with an old favorite Luz who I have been banging for years, Very cute 22 year old or less-- Banged her hard for a good start of the Sexcapades. After which I wandered around a bit wondering if I would want to smash another girl (Like I always do).

Wandered around the block saw some good candidates but was not ready, so, I went to the Alaska Cafe and had a coffee, I got kinda recharged took half a Viagra and wandered back around the block.

By this time it was Really Dead-- and the Streetie Sweeties I pinned were not to be found (as Usual) -- there were about 10 or so but none were blowing my hair back except one skinny hot girl I used top smash and she was too bitchy to take a chance on as I had a lame experience the last time with her-- She got so mad when I told her I did not like her attitude, LOL.

From there I went to Venus, there were a few ok girls-- I bounced to Atonis-- same situation there -- I bounced to La Casona and there were 10+ girls 2-3 hotties-- I started grinding on this Hottie named Sophia-- 22 yo super cute with light carmel skin and very Euro featured-- reminded me of a Latina Neve Campbell and Great Attitude-- Took her upstairs for 60 mil BBBJ-- She was a bit shy but I could tell she was liking me banging her hard-- She was really compliant and letting me dominate her. Trying to suppress her moaning, And after we got dressed we sat and canoodled for a few minutes-- I will have to go back soon. -- No knock for a great session.

After that I went back to the cafe and had a bowl of rib soup-- So delicious after smashing a couple of hot girls-.

Walking home about 1 a it was completely dead-- the soldiers on Calle 22 were gone but there were some in the stroll area.

I love my sex playground, Santa Fe.

[JjBee62]

Today I had a chance to go to Fiebre sex club. The area was scary for me initially. I'm a gringo. They took me upstairs. Bottle of Absolut vodka was 250,000 water bottle is 20,000 and dance was 40,000. The guy told me the dance was just 30,000 but later he changed. So got to be careful. The girls are hot! Can't go wrong. Some are strippers they dance and there are hookers as well. They ask for 100,000 for hooking up. I'm sure they'll charge more once the game is over. Overall a great place if you are looking to have fun. I thought the drinks were expensive. That's just me.

Can someone please help with Mezza address? Are there any other strip clubs for late nights. Also guys please share some good Colombian girls massage place. I don't want Thai. Please that's more important for me tomorrow..You can search the thread for Mezzanine. It's located on the northwest corner of Carrera 15 and Calle 104. It's very close to Hotel Dann Carlton, as a reference point. There is a Terpel gas station on the southwest corner.

The attached photo shows the building from Carrera 15. You go up the stairs to the mezzanine area. There's a convenience store, coffee shop or something at the top of the stairs, I can't remember. If you walk down the side that faces Carrera 15 you will see a few doors. Usually a girl will open the door as you walk up. If you walk around the shop at the top of the stairs, you'll find more doors on the backside. Same deal. If nobody opens the door, try to open it. I believe there are 7 different suites, but not all of them are always occupied.

Inside there will be some girls. I have no idea what the cost is now, but it's always been reasonable. The rooms are tiny, not much bigger than a closet. There's a small massage table. The last one I remember was about 18 inches shorter than I am. You can check out all the suites before picking a girl. It's located in a nice area. It's a very basic place to fuck. The facilities are minimal, but I've seen some good girls there.

Just south a block or 2 there once was another massage place, but that was 5 years ago. It was located close to the Justo & Bueno store. Don't expect a spa quality massage at either place.

It sounds like you were getting the gringo treatment in Fiebre. You might want to get Woodman to give you a tour to find out how much you were getting overcharged.

[Joker143]

Are the women good looking? They seem to be escorts I guess?


So I made a quick visit around 5:30 pm today. http://gloryholebogota.com/ Not a swingers club at all. But if you are into the adult theater scene in the US you would like it.

They have gloryholes although those I did not check them out. There are pictures and videos on their twitter, but its pretty much what I expected out of Bogota gloryholes. I was there for the posted gangbang event 30,000 cop. I think condoms would be extra but I brought my own. I confirmed info via whatsapp.

Upstairs there was a big room with a couch and tv and side rooms, almost like a casa. They give you a little lock and key for the lockers which is kind of nice. There were a couple of guys, a clothed couple, and a girl on a small bed getting a naked massage by a guy. There was a super cute, late 20's, petite woman. I sat around for 5 minutes and she was sort of in and out of the rooms. She motioned to me and we went into one of them and pretty much just got down to it. A guy came in, I assume it was her husband or boyfriend based on the interaction, and she asked if it was OK if he watched. I don't really care so I said si. It was a great lay, but no BJ. I probably could have asked but I was just going with the flow. I am almost certain that you can stay and have sex multiple times (of course if it works out for all involved). No money changed hands inside..

[BearEmy84]

Today I had a chance to go to Fiebre sex club. The area was scary for me initially. I'm a gringo. They took me upstairs. Bottle of Absolut vodka was 250,000 water bottle is 20,000 and dance was 40,000. The guy told me the dance was just 30,000 but later he changed. So got to be careful. The girls are hot! Can't go wrong. Some are strippers they dance and there are hookers as well. They ask for 100,000 for hooking up. I'm sure they'll charge more once the game is over. Overall a great place if you are looking to have fun. I thought the drinks were expensive. That's just me.

Can someone please help with Mezza address? Are there any other strip clubs for late nights. Also guys please share some good Colombian girls massage place. I don't want Thai. Please that's more important for me tomorrow..You got hit with Gringo prices my friend. Take the Woodman tour, it'll literally save you what it costs.

I went down to Santa Fe this morning around 10 AM. Pretty quiet, but with probably 10-15 girls around on the streets. Significantly less military presence than at night, definitely felt less safe. I'd texted my favourite vennie from Casona. She's leaving today, but living in a hotel in Santa Fe. 200 mil got me 2 hours with her. Upstairs, not in one of the rental rooms. Sweet thing, I'm sad she's leaving.

Many girls from Vene are only in Santa Fe for a month or so, then they go home to their families.

[Woodman09]

Today I had a chance to go to Fiebre sex club. The area was scary for me initially. I'm a gringo. They took me upstairs. Bottle of Absolut vodka was 250,000 water bottle is 20,000 and dance was 40,000. The guy told me the dance was just 30,000 but later he changed. So got to be careful. The girls are hot! Can't go wrong. Some are strippers they dance and there are hookers as well. They ask for 100,000 for hooking up. I'm sure they'll charge more once the game is over. Overall a great place if you are looking to have fun. I thought the drinks were expensive. That's just me.

Can someone please help with Mezza address? Are there any other strip clubs for late nights. Also guys please share some good Colombian girls massage place. I don't want Thai. Please that's more important for me tomorrow. .Cra. 15 # 104-03 (Mezzanine 14).

Bogota.

https://colombia.adultsearch.com/bogota/erotic-massage-parlor?mobile=2

[JjBee62]

So I made a quick visit around 5:30 pm today. http://gloryholebogota.com/ Not a swingers club at all. But if you are into the adult theater scene in the US you would like it.

They have gloryholes although those I did not check them out. There are pictures and videos on their twitter, but its pretty much what I expected out of Bogota gloryholes. I was there for the posted gangbang event 30,000 cop. I think condoms would be extra but I brought my own. I confirmed info via whatsapp.

Upstairs there was a big room with a couch and tv and side rooms, almost like a casa. They give you a little lock and key for the lockers which is kind of nice. There were a couple of guys, a clothed couple, and a girl on a small bed getting a naked massage by a guy. There was a super cute, late 20's, petite woman. I sat around for 5 minutes and she was sort of in and out of the rooms. She motioned to me and we went into one of them and pretty much just got down to it. A guy came in, I assume it was her husband or boyfriend based on the interaction, and she asked if it was OK if he watched. I don't really care so I said si. It was a great lay, but no BJ. I probably could have asked but I was just going with the flow. I am almost certain that you can stay and have sex multiple times (of course if it works out for all involved). No money changed hands inside.This sounds similar to a typical US swingers club on a night when single males are allowed in, except the girl is probably a paid employee. There's a fair chance that the guy watching was another customer. The etiquette in the smaller rooms is, if you want privacy, close the door. If you don't mind other people watching, or joining in, leave the door open.

However, even with an open door it's rude to join, or enter the room without asking first.

I've been in clubs that had a chain you could put across the doorway, if you were okay with spectators, but didn't want them in the room. Other places had a big window with curtains you could open or close.

In the US on nights when single men are allowed in, it can get crazy. There will be a few couples and 20-50 single men. Every time a couple goes to a room, there's a swarm of guys rushing, hoping to get asked to join, or allowed to touch. Freaks out most of the women. Sounds like that place has things well organized.

[Joker143]

Hey bro, can you help me with some tours? I also would like to know until what time mezzanine is open. Are they open now?


Cra. 15 # 104-03 (Mezzanine 14).

Bogota.

https://colombia.adultsearch.com/bogota/erotic-massage-parlor?mobile=2

[LatinaLover#1]

Today I had a chance to go to Fiebre sex club. The area was scary for me initially. I'm a gringo. They took me upstairs. Bottle of Absolut vodka was 250,000 water bottle is 20,000 and dance was 40,000. The guy told me the dance was just 30,000 but later he changed. So got to be careful. The girls are hot! Can't go wrong. Some are strippers they dance and there are hookers as well. They ask for 100,000 for hooking up. I'm sure they'll charge more once the game is over. Overall a great place if you are looking to have fun. I thought the drinks were expensive. That's just me.

Can someone please help with Mezza address? Are there any other strip clubs for late nights. Also guys please share some good Colombian girls massage place. I don't want Thai. Please that's more important for me tomorrow.

Thanks all.Just tell Uber or taxi to take you to the Dann Carlton Cra. 15 ## 103-60, Bogotá. Stand on the corner of the hotel and walk catty corner accros the street. You will see a 2 story building, go up the steeps and you will see 4 or 5 suites on both sides. Most of the suites are occupied by girls giving massages. Most of the time the door is cracked open and they will usually see you coming. I haven't been there since the Pandemic but the price was between 40 and 60,000 cop. Currently I would't pay more than 100,000 max stay safe.

[FlashShaker]

PTI. Pardon the interruption but. A little off topic - -Do Colombian women know that they can say no. To sex?

I am in Bogota last week, prob Tues I think I met this really pretty, low 30's office worker at the Juan Valdez's WTC Bogota location. She told me she was on lunch break and usually don't do JV but today she wanted something light. We chatted and vibed for a good 40 minutes. She showed me her work ID / in the Citi building she worked and told me all about it. We made a dinner date for later that evening, around 7:30 p. Of course, she said she'd have to go home / changed blah blah blah. Did a quick follow up on w'sap around 6 p to see if we were still on track, no response. 7:20 p she sent a text saying something came up and won't be able to make it to dinner. Sort of expected it as we all know Colombian chics are flakes extraordinaire. Next day, did a random follow up on w'sap and asked why she changed her mind? Did I do or say something wrong etc. Her response kinda shocked me in a way. She said she didn't come bec she didn't want to have sex. I was like huh? She said she didn't want to be forced to have sex and its the first time we meet. I was sorta stunned! I told her if she didn't want to, it wasnt going to happen. All she had to do was say so. She then said she was afraid I would get mad and beat her! I was like WTF?

I told her we're not animals and this is not the animal kingdom but she said that's the way it is in her culture, especially if you have money ... oh well I guess

So now I am curious if this is one of the reasons or the main reason why these chics are so flaky? They don't know that they can say no so they just avoid altogether. IDK, have no idea but I now wonder.

[JjBee62]

PTI. Pardon the interruption but. A little off topic - -Do Colombian women know that they can say no. To sex?

I am in Bogota last week, prob Tues I think I met this really pretty, low 30's office worker at the Juan Valdez's WTC Bogota location. She told me she was on lunch break and usually don't do JV but today she wanted something light. We chatted and vibed for a good 40 minutes. She showed me her work ID / in the Citi building she worked and told me all about it. We made a dinner date for later that evening, around 7:30 p. Of course, she said she'd have to go home / changed blah blah blah. Did a quick follow up on w'sap around 6 p to see if we were still on track, no response. 7:20 p she sent a text saying something came up and won't be able to make it to dinner. Sort of expected it as we all know Colombian chics are flakes extraordinaire. Next day, did a random follow up on w'sap and asked why she changed her mind? Did I do or say something wrong etc. Her response kinda shocked me in a way. She said she didn't come bec she didn't want to have sex. I was like huh? She said she didn't want to be forced to have sex and its the first time we meet. I was sorta stunned! I told her if she didn't want to, it wasnt going to happen. All she had to do was say so. She then said she was afraid I would get mad and beat her! I was like WTF?

I told her we're not animals and this is not the animal kingdom but she said that's the way it is in her culture, especially if you have money ... oh well I guess

So now I am curious if this is one of the reasons or the main reason why these chics are so flaky? They don't know that they can say no so they just avoid altogether. IDK, have no idea but I now wonder.A big issue in the culture is a reluctance to say no. It's not just with women and sex it's a part of the business culture as well. You will think everything is going great and set an appointment for another meeting. They accept and later something comes up. It can drive you nuts trying to figure out if "okay" means "yes" or "no."

[Mr Enternational]

She then said she was afraid I would get mad and beat her! I was like WTF?

I told her we're not animals and this is not the animal kingdom but she said that's the way it is in her culture, especially if you have money ... oh well I guess LOL. I would have told her that I did not have money so she did not have to worry about me beating her.

[Turgid]

A big issue in the culture is a reluctance to say no.....Pity that does not apply to asking a non-pro for sex.

[Woodman09]

Hey bro, can you help me with some tours? I also would like to know until what time mezzanine is open. Are they open now?Mezzanine is open Mon-Saturday-- Maybe Sunday until 8-9 pm -- Best time is in afternoon / evening.

Regarding tour-- I sent you a PM.

[NeilGeorge]

Just tell Uber or taxi to take you to the Dann Carlton Cra. 15 ## 103-60, Bogot. Stand on the corner of the hotel and walk catty corner accros the street. You will see a 2 story building, go up the steeps and you will see 4 or 5 suites on both sides. Most of the suites are occupied by girls giving massages. Most of the time the door is cracked open and they will usually see you coming. I haven't been there since the Pandemic but the price was between 40 and 60,000 cop. Currently I would't pay more than 100,000 max stay safe.There is a camera on the ceiling of the second floor, at the corner, so the girls can see you when you approach the corner. Then they all come to the door screaming and try to seduce you. I never knew I was so handsome as all the girls told me. Often there are 5-6 girls at each of the doors. 4-5 doors. Rooms are extremely small and narrow.

[Mr Enternational]

Looks like the crime is in Chapinero, not Santa Fe.

https://worldstar.com/videos/wshhqbdznFinFEC3PGIw/went-gta-mode-lawyer-runs-over-thieves-with-his-bmw-after-stealing-his-40-million-cartier-watch-at-gunpoint

[JackTaggart]

This sounds similar to a typical US swingers club on a night when single males are allowed in, except the girl is probably a paid employee. There's a fair chance that the guy watching was another customer. The etiquette in the smaller rooms is, if you want privacy, close the door. If you don't mind other people watching, or joining in, leave the door open.

However, even with an open door it's rude to join, or enter the room without asking first.

I've been in clubs that had a chain you could put across the doorway, if you were okay with spectators, but didn't want them in the room. Other places had a big window with curtains you could open or close.

In the US on nights when single men are allowed in, it can get crazy. There will be a few couples and 20-50 single men. Every time a couple goes to a room, there's a swarm of guys rushing, hoping to get asked to join, or allowed to touch. Freaks out most of the women. Sounds like that place has things well organized.I went again today and while I have no doubt that they bring in paid girls, today was 100% a couple that wanted a gangbang for the woman. When I walked into the room it was just like the hotel gangbangs I'm used to back home where the woman is in the center of a bed and all the guys are being respectful and waiting their turn. There were also two other clothed couples just watching. I'd like to think maybe it was like nyc in the 70's and 80's, although I am too young for that. 30 k entrance.

I have to say, the people that run it are super nice and attentive. They had an attendant upstairs making sure everyone was good. He was handing out extra condoms at just the right time and also turning the light on in the hallway when people were trying to get into their lockers, and also offering water. He was the mvp. The front desk staff are also great and they remembered my name.

I found a number of places like it on Twitter. Also following some couples now that seem to post when they want to go for some fun. People are much more open than at least my part of the US. Ill probably do a summary post at the end of my trip with the others.

[Chicago85]

A big issue in the culture is a reluctance to say no. It's not just with women and sex it's a part of the business culture as well. You will think everything is going great and set an appointment for another meeting. They accept and later something comes up. It can drive you nuts trying to figure out if "okay" means "yes" or "no."Extremely common in Asian cultures like Japan as well. At least for business.

[BearEmy84]

LOL. I would have told her that I did not have money so she did not have to worry about me beating her.Had a working girl the other day who told me about a Hungarian gringo who beat her and threw plates / mugs etc at her after sex because he wanted her to leave more quickly. Just because it's not common for US / UK culture doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Came up from Santa Fe for the morning / early afternoon. I think I got a good deal because business there is typically slow before noon. 400 k + rappi lunch + taxi*2 for about 7 hours.

What are the mezz rates right now? I've been asked everything from 100/ HR to 300/ HR. Can someone clue me in for better negotiation?