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Her name and room number is still a mystery.
Hope she hasn't been send by C. to chek out how devoted you are to her ;)
Have fun during those few days of freedom. What has been your hunting ground where you met your victims?
Last night I thought I was done but I got horny and hungry about 10 pm. I went to parque 93 to the seafood restaurant. There was a table of 4 very cute and young chicas having dinner. I smiled they smiled and the conversation started. Come to find out they are going on vacation in November to St Martin for 90 days.
I smiled and said Carolinas? 2 yes 2 no. I said Seamans the other two said yes. They had come from Cali to get their visas today. It seems that they decided late and had to come to Bogotá instead of going to the embassy in Cali. I picked the cutest one and invited her back for the night.
She asked for $80- but with the stipulation that I take her to the embassy of Holland in the morning. We had a wonderful night. She was a routard type girl. Teenage looking, tall pretty, and no children. We spent a few hours playing in the bed; I was exhausted from my afternoon workout.
In the morning at 8am we arrived at the embassy of Holland she met her 3 friends and they went inside after waiting a while. Guess what I was surrounded by what appeared to be about 20 working girls. This embassy issues visas for Aruba, Curacao, Bonaire, and St Maarten and of course Holland. There were about 30 women and 3 men. There are two appointment times 8:30 and 9:30 each day. People arrive very early for their appointments. I was not allowed in without an appointment. I sat around and eyed the comings and goings. My chica came out and wanted more, I said I was sorry but I have an appointment. I walked down the street as they left, then I returned. I sat around for a while. I saw a chica that I liked arrive at about 9:15 am. I smiled at her, she smiled back. We talked. I asked where she was going. She said vacation, 90 days in Curacao. Incidentally tourist visas are issued for only 30 days. I asked her if she would like to have a drink around the corner at my hotel. She said yes. When she deposited her papers we had our drink. She is now sleeping in my bed. ELDORADO!!! The golden city is at the embassy of Holland on calle 93. I will stake this out again tomorrow. Incidentally she said this is her first trip out of the country, I saw her passport. Nothing like VERY VERY fresh pussi. I guess I will have her stay the night as she is also very cute, fresh , and knows how to shake her bootie.
PS> for those who know me my girlfriend thinks I am away in Medallin on business. So tomorrow after morning sex (new from the embassy if possible) I will pack up and go to the airport ahead of my novia (girlfriend) and meet the airplane arriving from Medallin and make like I just arrived—what a scoundrel!
Mel
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Hope she hasn't been send by C. to chek out how devoted you are to her ;)
Have fun during those few days of freedom. What has been your hunting ground where you met your victims?And novia is crazy to send such a beautful women that no one could turn down. Or maybe it is just mel's lucky day we all get one ever now and then.
Regulr Travlr
08-25-07, 14:04
The Holland embassy. What a brilliant place to hang out. I love the vacation story. I once met a Colombian working girl in Panama. She told me she had worked on Aruba, Curacao and St. Martin as a WAITRESS! She claimed her trip to Panama was the first time she was doing the prepago thing. I saw that was clearly evident when she used the handi wipe before the BBBJ. It is good that the girls think we are naive at first.
Mel, AMAZING!!!!!
You did it! You found ELDORADO, it's not a myth anymore, it really exists! Drinking right from the source, before the water get's polluted! How stupid I was not finding this during my week in Bogota. I have to go back!!!
How much does TLN typically go for? What's the range and the average? Thanks guys. Cant wait to go after reading all of Mel's posts!!!
I was surrounded by what appeared to be about 20 working girls. This embassy issues visas for Aruba, Curacao, Bonaire, and St Maarten and of course Holland. There were about 30 womenAnd this scene must go on continuously, since there are always new girls arriving at the island brothels. This information of course should be at the top of the Bogota lists!
-zing
Henri John
08-26-07, 20:28
Hello everyone,
Henri John here. This is my first report and I'm writing it to find a chica. I had this beautiful spinner this past December in Aruba. But I know she's from Colombia. I don't have any of her info but her name, Diana Merchan Lopez. She's very petite, long black hair, beautiful eyes and very light skin. I think she's worth seeing again and I would like to find her and have her again. Please contact me and let me know where I have to go to have her again. I think I might be hooked! Thanks again, Henri John. I realize I might sound like a loser but no one says she has to be my last!
My thinking is if you go to Colombia you will forget about her. There are just so many hotties in Colombia. Typically the chicas that go to Aruba, Panama, Costa Rica, Curacao, etc. go there for a reason... i.e. the majority of the time they can't compete in Colombia. In Aruba they seem like a dream as Colombianas are special, but in Colombia... they weren't all that.
Also many casa chicas get very hardened in Colombia and hear so many stories about how much these gals that are a 6 in the looks department make and they find a way to get there. Many times it's through an intermediary that rounds up chicas, offers to get them their visa, pay their way, and sells them to a brothel in another country... and they are stuck until they pay off their debt... which unfortunately could be never.
Though there are certainly excpetions, for the most part though, if you were to ask anyone that really truly has spent a lot of time in Colombia, they will most likely all say the same... The Colombianas working in Panama, Costa Rica, Aruba, Curacao etc are not even worth the time for one reason or another.
Hello everyone,
Henri John here. This is my first report and I'm writing it to find a chica. I had this beautiful spinner this past December in Aruba. But I know she's from Colombia. I don't have any of her info but her name, Diana Merchan Lopez. She's very petite, long black hair, beautiful eyes and very light skin. I think she's worth seeing again and I would like to find her and have her again. Please contact me and let me know where I have to go to have her again. I think I might be hooked! Thanks again, Henri John. I realize I might sound like a loser but no one says she has to be my last!
PS> for those who know me my girlfriend thinks I am away in Medallin on business. So tomorrow after morning sex (new from the embassy if possible) I will pack up and go to the airport ahead of my novia (girlfriend) and meet the airplane arriving from Medallin and make like I just arrived—what a scoundrel!
Mel. I did once exactly that. I cheated on my Brazilian girlfriend, which was a high powered executive businesswoman at the time. She had sent her chauffeur to wait for me at the arrival gate. When I arrived quite early ... he was already in the crowd, waiting for me. As a chauffeur/bodyguard, former policeman, he immediately understood that I had lied on my flight schedule and reported this to my girlfriend. I had then one of the most terrible jealousy screaming scenes you can imagine. We split shortly after that ... Ah! I am still in love with her though ...
Regards. Bimbo Boy.
I did once exactly that. I cheated on my Brazilian girlfriend, which was a high powered executive businesswoman at the time. She had sent her chauffeur to wait for me at the arrival gate. When I arrived quite early ... he was already in the crowd, waiting for me. As a chauffeur/bodyguard, former policeman, he immediately understood that I had lied on my flight schedule and reported this to my girlfriend. I had then one of the most terrible jealousy screaming scenes you can imagine. We split shortly after that ... Ah! I am still in love with her though ...
Regards. Bimbo Boy.
You definitely could have told him you caught an earlier flight at the spur of the moment because your business was done early. Deny, Deny, Deny!!!! That's the key to a happy and successful relationship. :)
Many times it's through an intermediary that rounds up chicas, offers to get them their visa, pay their way, and sells them to a brothel in another country... and they are stuck until they pay off their debt... which unfortunately could be never.
I agree 100% that Henry John just will forget about her once in Colombia. I just want to correct a few things about the Colombianas going abroad.
Here is how it goes. The Dutch islands (Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao and Saint Maarten) have legal brothels. Restriction is that chicas can stay only for 90 days a year with working visa issued at Dutch embassy. For this they need to sign a 90 days working contract with one of these brothels. The intermediary between the Caribbean brothels and the chicas is Noralba, a woman in Bogota. Chicas need to send pictures and description which are send to the brothels. Some can't afford to be picky, but the best brothels (Seamen and Carolona in Saint Maarten) select on look. If the chica is selected in one of the brothels, Noralba makes up the contract. However, neither the brothels or Noralba will enslave the chica in debt. The chica has to pay by herself for air-ticket and visa. Chica usually gets money from family as most of the earned money will be to help family too. Pimps are seldom as chicas don't need protection in this legal scene, and what could a pimp do anyway from a distance? Once in the brothel, chica needs to pay daily for her room and food in the brothel, depending the brothel but about 40-50$ a day. All the money she gets from the customer is for her, basically 30-40$ for each session depending which island. She has to respect all kind of regulations like being in the club during opening time, attending weekly medical check and making strip dance, else she needs to pay a multa. Typical earnings after 90 days of hard work and after paying all debts is 5000-10 000$. Most chicas start with the closest island (Aruba, Curaçao), but Saint Maarten is considered the best in earnings. Panama is another story, Noralba can send chicas also there but as there is no visa issue, chicas after a first trip go on their own. They also don't need a contract and can work as freelance in the clubs in Panama. Panama is less a paper hassle for chicas but is considered being less in term of earnings. Chicas who have ended up in Trinidad simply didn't know better. There are new destinations starting too like Hong Kong. Spain is also a major destination, but with a serious visa issue.
As a customer I have an excellent opinion about the Colombianas abroad, except Trinidad (check my report in the Trinidad tread). Best is Saint Maarten as there is a selection on look, but pricing is higher too. I can't say that the pro scene in Colombia is better. I found the Santa Fe scene in Bogota low level and only the better clubs in the Northern areas of Bogota like Zhivago were on the level of Carolina or Seamens from Saint Maarten. Lot's of chicas go abroad to be far from relatives and would not do this job at home. Chicas abroad seem to be new in the business, are alone, home sick and much more open to GFE if you have the right attitude. My opinion was that the chicas working in Colombia looked more hardened pros, working with safety issues, being more easily pimped and so on.
But then again, why going for pros in Colombia as you can get much better for free? Having visited more than 50 countries around the world, I can say that Colombia simply has the best amateur scene and the best looking women in the world.
MiamiHeatLuver
08-27-07, 14:05
PS> for those who know me my girlfriend thinks I am away in Medallin on business. So tomorrow after morning sex (new from the embassy if possible) I will pack up and go to the airport ahead of my novia (girlfriend) and meet the airplane arriving from Medallin and make like I just arrived—what a scoundrel!\
You can even print out an itinerary from that airline or cheap tickes or whatever and pretend that was your electronic ticket for additional back-up, thats what I do. he he
Regulr Travlr
08-27-07, 14:23
I Panama is another story, Noralba can send chicas also there but as there is no visa issue, chicas after a first trip go on their own. They also don't need a contract and can work as freelance in the clubs in Panama. Panama is less a paper hassle for chicas but is considered being less in term of earnings.
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Just to clarify the status of Colombianas in Panama. The girls entering with no visa now only have 30 days. These girls almost all work as independents. The girls working in the major clubs, Le Palace, Elite, Miami, etc. actually do have contracts and are recruited through someone in Bogota. I am not sure if it is Noralba or not. They arrive with a limited time contract and a "special worker" type visa that matches the length of the contract. They also have a return ticket in hand as well, which is a requirement. If the girls do not leave at the end of their contract, they are in the country illegally and risk deportation if found. That is not to say this does not happen, but it does change their status. Also, the clubs have a fixed number of slots for girls on work visas. There was recently a big issue with Club Midnight where all the Colombianas were rounded up and deported for violating this issue.
My first novia in Panama was a girl from Pereira who worked at Life Girls. I was with her at the end of her contract as she was returning home. I went around with her as she went through the process of leaving. It was a bureaucratic nightmare with every stop asking for some small payment to process the paperwork. Not that they were trying to get her to stay, but they were extracting the last pound of flesh.
Henri John - Forget about the girl you met. Listen to the other guys on the board. The girls in Colombia who have never worked abroad will be much better than what you have experienced.
$40-50/day for room and board and it's $40/pop?? Throw in beauty parlour to have hair and nails done everyday and the way these gals like to buy clothes etc and it takes 3 fucks a day just to break even. I really don't know the Medellin p4p scene that well... ie. I don't really personally know the ins and outs with the gals. However, I did know a lot about the ins and outs of CArtagena and Santa MArta casas at one time... some of these gals go a few days without a pop... and then of course the good ones get a few a day. But 3, everyday just to break even in the Dutch Islands? Kind of sounds like a miserable life.
I agree 100% that Henry John just will forget about her once in Colombia. I just want to correct a few things about the Colombianas going abroad.
Here is how it goes. The Dutch islands (Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao and Saint Maarten) have legal brothels. Restriction is that chicas can stay only for 90 days a year with working visa issued at Dutch embassy. For this they need to sign a 90 days working contract with one of these brothels. The intermediary between the Caribbean brothels and the chicas is Noralba, a woman in Bogota. Chicas need to send pictures and description which are send to the brothels. Some can't afford to be picky, but the best brothels (Seamen and Carolona in Saint Maarten) select on look. If the chica is selected in one of the brothels, Noralba makes up the contract. However, neither the brothels or Noralba will enslave the chica in debt. The chica has to pay by herself for air-ticket and visa. Chica usually gets money from family as most of the earned money will be to help family too. Pimps are seldom as chicas don't need protection in this legal scene, and what could a pimp do anyway from a distance? Once in the brothel, chica needs to pay daily for her room and food in the brothel, depending the brothel but about 40-50$ a day. All the money she gets from the customer is for her, basically 30-40$ for each session depending which island. She has to respect all kind of regulations like being in the club during opening time, attending weekly medical check and making strip dance, else she needs to pay a multa. Typical earnings after 90 days of hard work and after paying all debts is 5000-10 000$. Most chicas start with the closest island (Aruba, Curaçao), but Saint Maarten is considered the best in earnings. Panama is another story, Noralba can send chicas also there but as there is no visa issue, chicas after a first trip go on their own. They also don't need a contract and can work as freelance in the clubs in Panama. Panama is less a paper hassle for chicas but is considered being less in term of earnings. Chicas who have ended up in Trinidad simply didn't know better. There are new destinations starting too like Hong Kong. Spain is also a major destination, but with a serious visa issue.
As a customer I have an excellent opinion about the Colombianas abroad, except Trinidad (check my report in the Trinidad tread). Best is Saint Maarten as there is a selection on look, but pricing is higher too. I can't say that the pro scene in Colombia is better. I found the Santa Fe scene in Bogota low level and only the better clubs in the Northern areas of Bogota like Zhivago were on the level of Carolina or Seamens from Saint Maarten. Lot's of chicas go abroad to be far from relatives and would not do this job at home. Chicas abroad seem to be new in the business, are alone, home sick and much more open to GFE if you have the right attitude. My opinion was that the chicas working in Colombia looked more hardened pros, working with safety issues, being more easily pimped and so on.
But then again, why going for pros in Colombia as you can get much better for free? Having visited more than 50 countries around the world, I can say that Colombia simply has the best amateur scene and the best looking women in the world.
I know gals who have been recruited over and over to go to Panama or Curacao. The main reason these gals refuse to do it is because they all know someone who has 1) gone and either never returned and never heard from again or 2) been unable to leave for years because their debt was not paid off. I've heard stories straight from gals mouths that they were slaves and not given a penny, some not even allowed to leave the casa because the owner knew they would never return. I heard these stories firsthand from gals that worked in Santa Marta... granted it was 3-4 years ago... and of course, a lot of these gals lie for whatever reason... attention, sympathy etc. But, this whole rosy picture about gals actually having an opportunity to make money... actually that's always what they are told, is probably a glass that is half full. I.e. Obviously some gals must make money and come back with money or no one would go do it. Actually some would just to get out of Colombia. However, I have never heard of a story where a Colombiana actually left Colombia and 1) sent cash back to her family or 2) actually came back to Colombia with any cash. Again, I know very little about the subject as I was better versed on the subject 3 years ago and it wasn't this whole go to consulate and get a Visa and contracts etc. It was, somehow Visas were being given under the table , gals were being shipped off once they agreed, and they were basically signing their life away until they paid the debt for airfare, visa, and the price the casa owner paid the recruiter (a few thousand dollars), etc. Then when they get there, there's interest, room, board expenses etc. This was the stories I heard. Gals being told they owe in upwards of $10k... something they could never make in a year or two... mainly because as someone pointed out... stupid little multas.. ie. if you aren't dressed and ready to go by 7pm.. it's a multa larger than the amount she would make that evening anyways.
Sounds like the process has become legalized. What I heard more about falls along the lines of prostitute trafficking.
Just to clarify the status of Colombianas in Panama. The girls entering with no visa now only have 30 days. These girls almost all work as independents. The girls working in the major clubs, Le Palace, Elite, Miami, etc. actually do have contracts and are recruited through someone in Bogota. I am not sure if it is Noralba or not. They arrive with a limited time contract and a "special worker" type visa that matches the length of the contract. They also have a return ticket in hand as well, which is a requirement. If the girls do not leave at the end of their contract, they are in the country illegally and risk deportation if found. That is not to say this does not happen, but it does change their status. Also, the clubs have a fixed number of slots for girls on work visas. There was recently a big issue with Club Midnight where all the Colombianas were rounded up and deported for violating this issue.
My first novia in Panama was a girl from Pereira who worked at Life Girls. I was with her at the end of her contract as she was returning home. I went around with her as she went through the process of leaving. It was a bureaucratic nightmare with every stop asking for some small payment to process the paperwork. Not that they were trying to get her to stay, but they were extracting the last pound of flesh.
Henri John - Forget about the girl you met. Listen to the other guys on the board. The girls in Colombia who have never worked abroad will be much better than what you have experienced.
The main reason these gals refuse to do it is because they all know someone who has 1) gone and either never returned and never heard from again or 2) been unable to leave for years because their debt was not paid off. I've heard stories straight from gals mouths that they were slaves and not given a penny, some not even allowed to leave the casa because the owner knew they would never return.
These are urban legends. Not in the Dutch Caribbean, the system is fully legal and controlled by authorities. All girls return home safe and with their well earned money.
Having said this, they have to work hard for this, few sleep, doing lot's of hours everyday, no free day during 90 days and doing an average of 5-6 customers a day.
Curacao is the best seal for the ladies. Unlike the other islands each woman is an individual entreprenur. She can set her own work hours, work as much as she wants or not at all. The only requirements are that she is in Campo from 6:00p to 6:00a., she has her weekly checkup, and she pays her room rent.
There is no sharing of rooms, except if on occasion Campo is overbooked, and there is not requirement to have the client buy drinks.
There is no slavery involved, but the women have to be serious about work if they are to show a substantial profit. They do make enough money to pay their bills while in Campo and to take home with them when they leave.
I personally know ladies who have bought houses in nice communities from their earnings.
As Zing has said time and time again if you treat the ladies right you will get back much in return.If you have a rental car, offer to take them to the beach, or to Punda. They really appreciate this especially if you treat it as a date with a non pro. Dont act as if you can touch and feel just because you are doing a favor.
You might be surprised at the reaction you might get.
I tend to favor the more mature women, and the feedback I have is that for many St. Maarten although lucrative is a horrible place to work when compared to Curacao. Aruba comes in second.
Willie
A nice thing happened while I was in Bogota.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=639134&postcount=1145
I decided to stay another week with my novia. Since I now have a visa and a cedula I can stay as long as I like.. She is killing me. I am a shadow of my former self. Every time I turn in bed she thinks I am awake and starts again. Talk about multiple orgasms how about 10 or 12 in a row over a period of 20 minutes. She exhausts me. I think it has something to do with the thin air, but she starts first thing in the morning and continues all day and night. She has long thin legs and incredible abdominal muscles and muscles in her pussy. With the leverage and an incredible motion I would rate her a 10 in bed .She just walked over and stuck her beautiful tits in my face 38 (c-d) and asked if I liked her outfit for tomorrow. We are going to a swimming pool and gymnasium with her and her family. Should be a fun day. I can't wait to see her working out on the machines in the gym, and the guys ogling her.
Now she is biting on my neck---time to go.
Mel
Will be in Bogota this Saturday for about a week. I've got mostly non-pro action lined up, but if someone's interested in teaming up for safety reasons to check out the evening action in Sante Fe, I might go for that. Have heard/read too many scary stories about this city, so I seriously doubt I'll do any solo exploration in the nighttime, unless it's one of the well known "upscale" places.
Will be in Bogota this Saturday for about a week. I've got mostly non-pro action lined up, but if someone's interested in teaming up for safety reasons to check out the evening action in Sante Fe, I might go for that. Have heard/read too many scary stories about this city, so I seriously doubt I'll do any solo exploration in the nighttime, unless it's one of the well known "upscale" places.Don't worry, Bogota is safe. I am currently here on vacation from the US. I started in Cartagena and I am now in Bogota. Total time here is Colombia will be one week. There is alot of exagerated information on the web and travel books on how dangerous it is out here. Ignore all the BS. This is a very safe city and country. There is alot of police presence out here. You are going to love it out here.
Anyone know whether or not there is a bus that goes from the Airport to "downtown" Bogota? And where to catch it, the fees involved, etc?
Anyone know whether or not there is a bus that goes from the Airport to "downtown" Bogota? And where to catch it, the fees involved, etc?
Yep, you walk out front of the airport terminal, cross the two first lanes where taxis are waiting. After you've crossed, set back a little you'll see the last of these parallel lanes. Look at the left hand side (the direction traffic is entering from). You'll see a small bus stand and buses passing regularly, destined for all parts of the city.
For the historical centre you want the bus "Germania" which costs about 1100 pesos. Tell the bus guy you want to get off close to Centro. It will let you out at around 7th and cll 20. This is not a great area, you should immediately transfer into a taxi, keeping a close eye on your bags. For Zona Rosa there is another bus I'm sure, don't know exactly which one.
Yep, you walk out front of the airport terminal, cross the two first lanes where taxis are waiting. After you've crossed, set back a little you'll see the last of these parallel lanes. Look at the left hand side (the direction traffic is entering from). You'll see a small bus stand and buses passing regularly, destined for all parts of the city.
For the historical centre you want the bus "Germania" which costs about 1100 pesos. Tell the bus guy you want to get off close to Centro. It will let you out at around 7th and cll 20. This is not a great area, you should immediately transfer into a taxi, keeping a close eye on your bags. For Zona Rosa there is another bus I'm sure, don't know exactly which one.
Thank you, Cachorro.
"This is not a great area, you should immediately transfer into a taxi, keeping a close eye on your bags."
Why is it not a good idea? Theft of my bags or robbery? I plan on traveling with a single backpack. One bag, strapped to my back.
Would that be safer?
Taxis are cheap.
From the airportr to calle 100 which is north of the zona rosa is only $7. 00 US. Why screw around with busses. Just make sure the taxi has a meter and a rate card that you can see.
Mel
Don't worry, Bogota is safe. I am currently here on vacation from the US. I started in Cartagena and I am now in Bogota. Total time here is Colombia will be one week. There is alot of exagerated information on the web and travel books on how dangerous it is out here. Ignore all the BS. This is a very safe city and country. There is alot of police presence out here. You are going to love it out here.
Yes you'll love it!
Don't be a dummy though. It can be safe enough, but always keep up your guard.
The experienced guy knows that it's when you let your guard down, trouble finds you.
Have fun!
Thank you, Cachorro.
"This is not a great area, you should immediately transfer into a taxi, keeping a close eye on your bags."
Why is it not a good idea? Theft of my bags or robbery? I plan on traveling with a single backpack. One bag, strapped to my back.
Would that be safer?
Just a reminder to pay attention to what's happening around you.
I've done that bus trip from the airport a couple times. I feel OK but the other people on the bus give me warnings when they see me getting off there with my bags (usually later at night in my previous trips). As a foreign looking guy walking around with luggage, you stand out as a possible target.
That section of town has pickpockets working and the occasional mugging. While I would never walk 20 blocks with my luggage in that part of Bogota, I am comfortable standing there a few seconds and then jumping into a taxi.
Hoof Hunter
09-10-07, 07:21
I wouldn't recommend Barrio Sante Fe at night by yourself for the uninitiated. Too easy a target.
Bogota has plenty of security (police/military) around, but that doesn't translate exactly into safety. Keep your guard up at all times for pickpokets, and petty criminals, at the least. Be vigilant with taxis. You should be fine solo in Zona Rosa and Parque 93. Venturing down to Chapinero and/or Sante Fe at night, all bets are off, security or not.
Will be in Bogota this Saturday for about a week. I've got mostly non-pro action lined up, but if someone's interested in teaming up for safety reasons to check out the evening action in Sante Fe, I might go for that. Have heard/read too many scary stories about this city, so I seriously doubt I'll do any solo exploration in the nighttime, unless it's one of the well known "upscale" places.
I plan on traveling with a single backpack. One bag, strapped to my back.
Would that be safer?
No, bad idea, there is no easier way to spot a tourist as a backpack, take a regular discrete bag instead. Never walk around with luggage, you are an easy target. The rule is as soon as you arrive in a city, jump into the first taxi to bring you at a safe hotel and leave everything in it, especially your valuable in a safetybox. After, you dress as anyone else in the street without anything else in your pocket than cash money and photocopy of passport.
Bango Cheito
09-14-07, 20:48
I dunno if I'd describe Bogota as 'safe' ... there are more dangerous cities on Earth, and by far, but you still have to watch your back there.
The ZR and the 93 have MORE robberies than Santa Fe, or just about any other neighborhood in the city.
http://www.laneros.com/showthread.php?t=95559 if you can read Spanish..
PLEASE don't give out misinformation on this site by going off half-cocked.
The best rate I found in this city is $1950 Colombianos for $1 US. I found this rate at the hotel I stayed at - la Boehme in the Zona Rosa. It is in front of the Andino Plaza. I am not sure if they will exchange money with non-hotel guests. Take your passport just in case they ask for ID. The exchange rate in Cartagena was $1600 CO/$1 US.
I just got back. Bogota was great!!
A long time ago I used to live in a decent residence near Calle 37, Carrera 15. I'm curious as to the character of the area now?
Regards,
Bango Cheito
09-17-07, 19:31
It's mostly Estrato 4, back in the 60s? 70s? or before it used to be 6 and very frou-frou. Now it's much more bohemian. Great restaurants, the houses are still beautiful, it's REASONABLY safe.
When I first decided I was going to move to BOG I wanted to live in that area, there or Galerias. But my gf wasn't wild about it, and I decided on my own as well that I just didn't want another house or old apartment with shit always breaking, not to mention buying pre-construction is SUCH a good deal down there with prices going up and up.
I read in a couple of pages here about a high end club called Lorimai in Bogota. Does anyone know its exact name or address. Would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
JerryIt's actually "La Forty-Nine" although Colombians of course mangle their english so it sounds like "lorinai". For some reason, using english words for clubs, bars, and other stores has become very common in Colombia, especially Bogota.
As you can probably guess from the name, it's on Calle 49 and Carrera 13. This is a MUST in your Bog itinerary, I even had a nice chicken soup at 4 in the morning and I really felt like the people who work here were looking out for me, although you are expected to tip even the cleaning lady who prepares the room, so bring some small bills as well. If you need to take some money out of an ATM, club security will accompany you but you'll have to tip them as well. However, you can even pay by credit card although the girls of course, prefer cash.
The rooms were okay, but I didn't like the fact there was only one small towel for me and the girl, no toilet paper, no hot water. Still, you should check it out at least once if only to admire the eye candy, of which there is plenty.
One last warning: Cra 13 is dangerous after dark (actually you can say that of most of Bog) so be sure to take a taxi right to the door and leave the same way. And calling for one is safer than hailing one down. You can ask security at the club to get you a "taxista de confianza" (a driver you can trust).
There are two clubs right next to each other. It's worth taking a minute to read my post that I wrote last time around about how to tell them apart.
It's mostly Estrato 4, back in the 60s? 70s? or before it used to be 6 and very frou-frou. Now it's much more bohemian. Great restaurants, the houses are still beautiful, it's REASONABLY safe.
Interesting -it had already started to decline circa 1970. Rojas Pinilla (ex-dictator) lived just around the corner. El Campo was on the edge of town and more upmarket.
Thanks
Bango Cheito
09-19-07, 22:18
Phun, good advice, I haven't been there yet but I'll make a point of going someday. Next time the gf and I go out it will be to a bona fide swingers club though :P, maybe the time after that. And yes that area is definitely really high in robberies, you have to be extra careful there.
Dust, I heard they had that famous murder of a famous journalist there some years back, after that, they put the law where all the people on motorcycles had to wear those faggy vests with their license plate #'s on them.
Where is the best place to exchange us dollars for pesos?
Thanks
Mel
Bango Cheito
09-20-07, 07:10
This question keeps cropping up for some reason.
Davivienda ATMs are the best. Any other ATM is acceptable, but the withdrawal limits are lower and the fees are gonna be the same. Any other way you'll get ripped off.
MiamiHeatLuver
09-20-07, 08:44
Where is the best place to exchange us dollars for pesos?
Thanks
Mel
Go to a CITIBANK ATM... NO FEES AND NO HIDDEN CHARGES! AND THE BEST RATES 100%
Dear gents, thanks for the great work on this thread! Here are my special questions:
1. Is SALTO DE ANGEL (restaurant in the Parque 93 area) and SALTO CON ANGEL (allegedly the best night club in town, Northwest of Parque 93) the one and the same establishment?
2. Give some tips, especially homepage addresses concerning long term apartment renting in BOG, please!
The rates at www.viaggio.com.co seem to be somewhat steep.
3. Who provides the best Spanish language courses? Don't laugh at this question, I know, I'm talking about serious linguistic skills! www.lonelyplanet.com suggests among others Javeriana University.
Appreciate your contribution, thank you!
Bango Cheito
09-21-07, 08:40
That stuff is kinda OT for this forum. Go to www.colombianblog.com or www.poorbuthappy.com and search there, it was JUST discussed on there not two weeks ago.
I've read this forum for a while, and enjoyed the spectacular women of Bogotá on a couple of occasions, but this is my first time posting.
Based on a couple of favorable reviews in this thread, I went last night to Bar Zhivago (Juan Pablo Karaoke), located at Carrera 18 # 93A-83. I arrived walking, and had a bit of trouble finding the place (no signs identify the business). It's on the south-west corner of the intersection of Cr 19 and Calle 93A.
On entering (no cover) I was pleasantly surprised to find 20 or so young women milling about. I started with a beer at the bar, and got caught in a conversation with a dark haired girl from Medellin. She wasn't my type, but it took me a while to find the heart to send her away. Once free, I milled around a bit and talked to a number of girls. The one that I had identified as the most attractive turned out to have zero personality. Something told me that she'd be mechanical in bed. I concur with other reports that point out that the girls here seem much closer to semi-pros than the more-or-less hardened hookers that I've seen at places on Calle 86. Most claimed to be students. None were from Bogotá.
Eventually I found a girl who delighted both my eyes and brain, and we retired to one of the club's on-site rooms (I'm here w/ co-workers and not keen on running into one while I'm escorting a chica home). The room was fairly funky: no bathroom; no proper bed, just couches pushed together; a bit cold. These details fell away as the lovely sandra stripped. What a body! Gorgeous, large breasts, a tight slim belly, that only-in-Colombia ass. She started with a fantastic BBBJ, followed by a fantastic session in a delightful variety of positions. She was enthusiastic and game to try everything that I suggested. After I came we rested for a while. She asked for a massage, which I was very happy to give, especially when she produced baby oil. Our second round was even hotter than the first. She finished me with a spectacular BBBJ, with me finishing in her mouth. I had meetings at 8 am the next day so we called it a night. As we were dressing she asked if she could sleep at my place. I said no, but got her number. If I wasn't endlessly fascinated by the search for new chicas I'd definitely give her a call. I'm happy to share her info with members of this list. She claimed that it was only her 3rd night working at Bar Zhivago.
Any suggestions for tonight?
Prices:
Beers: 12k
Salida: 80k
Room: 80k (pay the salida to take the girl home; pay the room to be with her on site. Don't pay both!)
Chica: she decides. I paid 250k.
One final note: google maps now covers Bogota: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=103631805846222867561.00043a6b5c144f76c06f3
They don't seem to find addresses automatically, but it's still a good way to figure out where things are.
Henri John
09-22-07, 17:20
I was thinking about what some of you have said about forgetting about Diana. (a chica I'm looking for)All good advice and some valid points but I'm still interested in finding her so my search continues. I asked around the bar where I had her and I got an email address from someone else! Big score. I think I also should mention that she's not my first chica, I've had Diana before about 8 years ago in Bogota when she first started out. So to my surprise when I saw her again last December. Anyway, she email me back and heres where it gets bad. She says she's just had a child and she actually thinks it's mine! I really don't want to get into all the details about this but I have to go to Bogota now to see for myself to see if she's telling the truth and if she is then I have to take a paternity test to verify. Has anyone been in this situation? I'm planning on leaving tomorrow to go meet her and I have a dna testing kit with me.
Great! Bogota is on high resolution on Google Earth!
Has anyone been in this situation? I'm planning on leaving tomorrow to go meet her and I have a dna testing kit with me.
Henri John,
Yes, others have been in this situation and other will be. It's easier to get a girl pregnant than to get AIDS actually from bareback.
What you should know is that whatever the decision you take, it is now, not after the result of the DNA test. If you start to do this, believe me, there is no way out anymore. Do you realize what's next? Do you really want a hooker being the mother of your child? Do you really want to marry, build up a family and raise kids with a hooker? Where? In Colombia or in your homecountry? Or do you want to send all your life money to a hooker to take care of your child at a distance? Or do you think you can just live on with the idea that somewhere in a thirdworld country you have a child that is struggling with an unfair life? Are you emotionaly prepared to face one of those options?
I can't give you the answers to all these questions, it's up to you. So, unless you have already the correct answers to the previous questions, my advice is not to go to meet her with your DNA test and forget about it. You won't be able to do turn your back once you have the result of the test.
I am flying into Bogotá’s Aero Puerto Internacional El Dorado on American Flight #913 from Miami. I need to meet up with a friend to catch a Avianca flight. Would someone please verify if American Airlines uses the Puente Aereo Terminal as opposed to the older El Dorado Terminal.
Thank you
Getting into Colombia is easy. Getting out of Colombia leaving a Child behind and no legal arrangements might be impossible. If you are American you will find that the colombian system of justice is very slow and cumbersome. You could possibly be denied leaving the country until the legal issues of your "child " is resolved. I would avoid this situation unless matrimony or living together is in your plans.
Mel
Professor10
09-26-07, 21:34
Liathain,
I believe in checking American Airlines that they do use the older airport terminal El Dorado.
Liathain,
As I recall, all international flights use El Dorado as well as all, non-Avianca, domestic flights. The other airport is only Avianca domestic.
Hoof Hunter
09-27-07, 01:25
I am flying into Bogotá’s Aero Puerto Internacional El Dorado on American Flight #913 from Miami. I need to meet up with a friend to catch a Avianca flight. Would someone please verify if American Airlines uses the Puente Aereo Terminal as opposed to the older El Dorado Terminal.
Thank you
American Airlines only flies into/out of El Dorado.
All Avianca international flights are out of/into El Dorado.
All Avianca domestic Colombia flights are out of Puente Aereo.
Henri John
09-27-07, 16:28
Thanks for all your suggestions about this dna testing thing. I went to Colombia and came back home already and then I found out yesterday that I AM the father of a little girl. I never really thought that this would happen to me. I knew it is a possiblity but, come on now! I'm not interested in being in a relationship with the mother but I want to provide for this child as she had no fault in this situation. My girlfriend knows about this now and she's the one that convienced me to do "the right thing". I fully agree with my gf. This is such a surreal situation but I can't handle the thought of this child not having all the things I grew up with. I'm an idiot for getting myself here and I just want to do the right thing now. BTW does anyone know a driver (for the entire day)that can drive me around Colombia when I go back there?
Henri John
09-27-07, 23:09
Also ,I forgot to mention. I WASNT barebacking. I even asked her if she was taking the pill and she said yes. Turns out she probably really wasn't taking the pill and i have a feeling she took the condom after i left the room and shoved all contents of the rubber where she shouldn't have. makes no difference now.I open myself to it and i realize that now.
Thanks for all your suggestions about this dna testing thing. I went to Colombia and came back home already and then I found out yesterday that I AM the father of a little girl. I never really thought that this would happen to me. I knew it is a possiblity but, come on now! I'm not interested in being in a relationship with the mother but I want to provide for this child as she had no fault in this situation. My girlfriend knows about this now and she's the one that convinced me to do "the right thing". I fully agree with my gf. This is such a surreal situation but I can't handle the thought of this child not having all the things I grew up with. I'm an idiot for getting myself here and I just want to do the right thing now. BTW does anyone know a driver (for the entire day)that can drive me around Colombia when I go back there?Before everyone else starts attacking you let me just say congratulations! :)
I don't think you're an idiot, but what happened to you is unfortunately far too common. We're all human, and sometimes the little head gets the better of us.
I think you're doing the right thing. It is your flesh and blood after all, I'm sure you want to see your kid grow up a little better than the average colombiana. And the cost of living down there is still pretty low so even with today's exchange rates, you don't have to send a fortune every month. As for the mother coming after you to "take you to the cleaners", I'd think it would be very difficult as she's not a U.S. citizen and you don't live in Colombia. Might be a different story if you formally or officially recognize your daughter and try to give her American citizenship though, so check with a good lawyer as always. That might end up being a tricky judgement call depending on what kind of person you think the mother is.
But I'm optimistic for you, I don't think this scenario means the end of your life or financial freedom. :) Fact is, it is VERY common for a colombiana to get knocked up and the father quickly gets out of the picture and never even sends back a peso. The mother of your kid is likely simply content that you want to at least help out financially if you can't be there with your kid. Since you're already a step above most of the local males, I doubt the mother would have much of a case to go after you fishing for more plata, this isn't like the states when it comes to these issues.
One word of advice: you may want to consider now a vasectomy unless you want more rugrats. :)
I AM the father of a little girl.
Congratulations! How old is she? She is blessed that you are the father. As I told before, once the test is done, there is no way back anymore, so good luck now. I hope I will never have to get through this experience. But if this has to happen, I just hope one thing, that the mother is a Colombiana. And I am sincere. Your child will have all the love she needs.
And by the way, don't worry about taxidrivers trying to kidnapp you for selling your organs, these are urban legends. Remember, Colombia is your country now.
Precocious One
09-28-07, 14:33
Henri John,
Yes, others have been in this situation and other will be. It's easier to get a girl pregnant than to get AIDS actually from bareback.
What you should know is that whatever the decision you take, it is now, not after the result of the DNA test. If you start to do this, believe me, there is no way out anymore. Do you realize what's next? Do you really want a hooker being the mother of your child? Do you really want to marry, build up a family and raise kids with a hooker? Where? In Colombia or in your homecountry? Or do you want to send all your life money to a hooker to take care of your child at a distance? Or do you think you can just live on with the idea that somewhere in a thirdworld country you have a child that is struggling with an unfair life? Are you emotionaly prepared to face one of those options?
I can't give you the answers to all these questions, it's up to you. So, unless you have already the correct answers to the previous questions, my advice is not to go to meet her with your DNA test and forget about it. You won't be able to do turn your back once you have the result of the test.Well said. As for the child indeed being Henri Johns' , there is her culpability factor he should consider when calculating the payout. I have thought of this myself and believe that buying a cheap house and letting the woman stay there for free for 18 years but always keeping title of the house is the best financial and ethical solution.
Ticoyo1965
09-28-07, 15:16
Enjoy the experiance with your new daughter! Don't listen to some people that will steer you because of their issues or thoughts.
I have read some of the threads on your subject and even though I am not in your shoes I feel for you.
I have had many GFEs and had many proffesionals in Central and South America and have found out that they are much different than any gringas I have dated. I am now married to a Tica and have been for the last 6 years, I have a gringatica as a daughter and would not want to change that in my life.
I was married before to a midwestern gringa for 11 years prior to meeting my current wife and would have to say that I would never give advise to marry a gringa. (even though I have 2 gringa daughters) (this is just my hang up and my experiance)
There is a difference why women in central and south america go to the profession of prostitution compared to the USA First it is money, the women might be teachers but they don't make enough money to feed their children. Since many men in Latin America have balls and are macho, they don't normally take care of their family affairs and treat the women like shit! In the USA It is mostly because the women need the money to pay for the drugs and abuse their children.
I would rather be married to a Columbian prostitute than a gringa any day! What is the difference? With the gringa you get the attitude and you lose your money after the divorce anyways! With the columbian you get a great looking package for the rest of your life!
People talk about what your child will grow up in a third world country and how bad it is! Well they might never have seen trailer home parks in the USA Or seen the hoods in the major cities of the USA I would rather live in Bogata than live in most of the trailer home parks in the midwest!
What ever you choose just make sure you have some kind of relationship with your new child because you will regret it if you don't!
I agree, but for some reason people like to judge others without looking in the mirror first. A real mother will do what she needs to take care of her children. Even if that means fucking some guy they do not know for money.
If it is your child you have been blessed and I know you will do the right thing. Enjoy and congrats again...... Neh
Enjoy the experiance with your new daughter! Don't listen to some people that will steer you because of their issues or thoughts.
I have read some of the threads on your subject and even though I am not in your shoes I feel for you.
I have had many GFEs and had many proffesionals in Central and South America and have found out that they are much different than any gringas I have dated. I am now married to a Tica and have been for the last 6 years, I have a gringatica as a daughter and would not want to change that in my life.
I was married before to a midwestern gringa for 11 years prior to meeting my current wife and would have to say that I would never give advise to marry a gringa. (even though I have 2 gringa daughters) (this is just my hang up and my experiance)
There is a difference why women in central and south america go to the profession of prostitution compared to the USA First it is money, the women might be teachers but they don't make enough money to feed their children. Since many men in Latin America have balls and are macho, they don't normally take care of their family affairs and treat the women like shit! In the USA It is mostly because the women need the money to pay for the drugs and abuse their children.
I would rather be married to a Columbian prostitute than a gringa any day! What is the difference? With the gringa you get the attitude and you lose your money after the divorce anyways! With the columbian you get a great looking package for the rest of your life!
People talk about what your child will grow up in a third world country and how bad it is! Well they might never have seen trailer home parks in the USA Or seen the hoods in the major cities of the USA I would rather live in Bogata than live in most of the trailer home parks in the midwest!
What ever you choose just make sure you have some kind of relationship with your new child because you will regret it if you don't!
I guess you impregnated her before Tom Leykis popularized the practice of flushing all used condoms down the toiled and/or carrying some hot sauce with you to kill the sperm.
Bango Cheito
09-29-07, 23:16
Don't send too much money. 100k a month for food 100k a month for miscellaneous and when school starts 300k MAX for that should be more than enough.
I decided to stay another week with my novia. Since I now have a visa and a cedula I can stay as long as I like.. She is killing me. I am a shadow of my former self. Every time I turn in bed she thinks I am awake and starts again. Talk about multiple orgasms how about 10 or 12 in a row over a period of 20 minutes. She exhausts me. I think it has something to do with the thin air, but she starts first thing in the morning and continues all day and night. She has long thin legs and incredible abdominal muscles and muscles in her pussy. With the leverage and an incredible motion I would rate her a 10 in bed .She just walked over and stuck her beautiful tits in my face 38 (c-d) and asked if I liked her outfit for tomorrow. We are going to a swimming pool and gymnasium with her and her family. Should be a fun day. I can't wait to see her working out on the machines in the gym, and the guys ogling her.
Now she is biting on my neck---time to go.
MelHi Mel.
Your story reminds me when I was a young guy meeting his future wife here in Bogota.
She would never left me going out to travel without drying me first!
She remains like that several years and then, oh well, time fades everything away.
I feel glad for you; love is such a powerful thing.
Take care.
Cabroncito
09-29-07, 23:53
I guess you impregnated her before Tom Leykis popularized the practice of flushing all used condoms down the toiled and/or carrying some hot sauce with you to kill the sperm.
The purpose of the hot sauce is to catch her in the act of dumpster diving for your sperm as it will have the same excruciating effect as inserting a fireball into her cooch.
I always make it a point to either flush the spent condom or throw it on the floor so the contents spill out. Do not be naive and let her strategically place it in the bathroom wastebasket so she can recapture your spent load minutes later.
Putas and non-putas alike, many girls are opportunistic. If they think you will likely turn into a long term meal ticket they will go to great lengths insure they receive the payout as Henry John discovered. Sorry to hear about your misfortune and I wish you the best of luck.
After a long break, I visited a favorita at Abado's, and found out they've raised the cost for FS to 70 mil, with the starting level of 45 mil for massage/hj(?). WTF?
Has anybody been to the massage parlors on the mezzanine of cll. 103/K 15, and have they raised their prices correspondingly? I know that one of them even last year had placards listing FS for 70 mil, though I was able to talk it down to the "normal" 60 mil at that time.
The Colombian economy is really booming. The paper just reported another big drop in the unemployment rate.
I have stayed at the Dannn Carleton Hotel on 103 and 15 and have not seen the entrance to th massage parlor.
What does it look like?
Mel
The Colombian economy is really booming. The paper just reported another big drop in the unemployment rate.Not sure exactly how inflation means the economy is booming. I'm not denying more people are doing okay, but I don't think they feel rich given the inflation over the past couple of years. As for certain economic figures, there's some controversy over them. One prominent Colombian retired from his position over how these numbers are generated and reported.
Just my opinion but I think the inevitable economic downturn is not that far off.
I have stayed at the Dannn Carleton Hotel on 103 and 15 and have not seen the entrance to th massage parlor.
What does it look like?
Mel
The massage parlors are across Carrera 15 on the mezzanine level of the shopping center, kitty corner from the Dann Carleton. No. 9 is at the far end on the backside of the mezzanine, but there are others as well.
I did not look across the street.
Thanks,
Mel
Kit Karson
10-02-07, 01:51
I am flying into Bogotá’s Aero Puerto Internacional El Dorado on American Flight #913 from Miami. I need to meet up with a friend to catch a Avianca flight. Would someone please verify if American Airlines uses the Puente Aereo Terminal as opposed to the older El Dorado Terminal.
Thank you
After you collect your suitcase do not walk out of the airport , turn to the right and you will see a connections sign. Walk down the corridor and jump on the bus to the National terminal. Free trip and takes 10 minutes.
kk
I am heading to Bogota in a couple of weeks and will be staying in the Parque de la 93 area.
Can anyone how knows about this town give me an overview of fun things to do if I hook up with a GFE, the main clubs, and what the hell of prepago is?
I have read about these prepagos on the Medellin and Barangquilla forums. The whole idea seems intrituing. What separates a prepago from a higher class pro?
Thanks much.
I will be in Bogota October 6 - October 15.
Any mongers available for a meeting?
Mel
ICan anyone how knows about this town give me an overview of fun things to do if I hook up with a GFE, the main clubs, and what the hell of prepago is?
I have read about these prepagos on the Medellin and Barangquilla forums. The whole idea seems intrituing. What separates a prepago from a higher class pro?
????? :confused:
Prepago just means hooker in Colombian slang, no matter the price range. You can't hook up with a GFE, but you might get GFE from a prepago, which means that she gives sex as if she is your girl friend.
a is only 20, she is one of these colombianas going overseas for three months, working hard in a caribbean brothel in order to help her family. usual story, a poor country girl getting pregnant from a guy that left her alone and helpless. desperate, she has no other choice than trying to call that woman she had heard of offering contracts overseas. she meets her and gets all the information about the job, how it goes and what she needs to do to protect herself. she needs to pay daily 50$ for her room and meals but all earnings are for her. pricing is 40$ for 20minutes with a customer. a would never have considered prostitution in colombia, her father would kill her. but far from her family, why not. she is brave and ready to sacrifice herself for 3 months. she accepts, gets money from her cousin to pay for air-ticket, visa and medical exams.
a ends up alone abroad on a caribbean island, saint martin, an exotic paradise, but she will see few of the outdoor environment. her passports is kept by immigration and she receives a working permit for three months, allowing herself to get around and to send money back home with western union. she is lucky, she is at one of the best brothels the seamen’s club. the boss is not always there, a woman takes care of the thirty girls, all colombianas. she explains her the rules of the house. she must register daily at 11am and 8pm and stay in the bar from 11am till 4pm and from 8pm till 2am. if not, she will be fined 100$, only the doctor can allow her not to work. she must attend the weekly medical check and the doctor is also allowed to forbid her to work if there is any medical problem. meals are served in the kitchen, but girls must eat one by one. rooms are air-conditioned with bathroom, but she must share her bed with another girl. that’s ok, she looks cool. but what matters for her is that she has to sleep in the same bed were both have to work. a is not happy about having all those smelly men sharing her own bed too.
her room mate gives her a few tips. customers start to enter the bar and a is scared. she just looks so young and petite and she is intimidated by these huge scary black guys. her room mate tries to help her with her first customer and introduces her to one of her asian customers. she explains to him that it's her first time and that he has to take care, what he gladly does. a prefers to stay with asians, as they look not so scary. luckily, her teenage look is doing great with asians too. the first days are not too bad, but at night she cries herself in sleep. her mind is with her daughter in colombia.
this happened three years ago, and with the own words how a told me last night. i had never forgotten a, i had met her exactly three years ago, when she just started. she also recognized me at once when she saw me again in this same bar. a was the first pro that i had managed to give an orgasm. what a discovery, i just couldn’t imagine that hookers could get orgams with customers. a had dramatically changed my way of considering hookers, from that moment on i could see the women in the hookers. i had waited all that time to thank her for that. she is proud hearing this from me and admits that i was also the first customer for her to have an orgasm with. she was inexperienced, i had impressed her. in fact we both hadn’t forgotten our first meeting during all those years.
a starts to tell me everything that has happened since and shows me pictures from the ostrich farm she has started up with the money earned in saint martin. she is proud that she has started this business and hpes that it’s her last contract abroad. these pictures from her finca brings me back memories from my last trip in colombia. we have both plenty of things to tell and i guess we both start to believe in destiny. a tells me she doesn’t want to work anymore. she offers me to stay at the bar and leaving together at closing time in order to avoid the 100$ barfine. i’m afraid however to be disappointed, she has changed so much. i remember everything of her, the way she looked at me impressed when i approached her, how she felt embarassed undressing herself, trying to hide her small breast, fearing i would be disappointed, her face of happiness when making love, her surprise when she got her orgasm, trying to prove it by making me feel how wet her pussy was. she admits indeed that she has changed a lot with this job. as a prove, she gives me a few shots of typical puta face but then starts to laugh and looks me with the same eyes as three years ago. it’s clear for me, no need to explain more, she will always be the same girl for me.
but what the hell is this story doing in the bogota thread ? we are in saint martin right ? don’t worry, you will soon understand what we are doing here. a has told me one of the most amazing stories i have ever heard in my monger career. i believed i had found the eldorado in bogota, and i realize now i had missed the best of it, something that goes far beyond my wildest dreams. i tell her about my trip in colombia, the country f the most beautiful women in the world, the country where women smile to you when you smile at them, the country where no woman can give no for an answer, where paying for sex is useless. a smiles, explains to me that there are 6 women for a man, that i am the perfect gentleman for any woman and that there is simply no reason for a colombiana not to go with me.
a admits she can’t trust men anymore due to her job, and that she prefers to live alone. but she still has sexual needs like any other woman, even if she is a hooker. once back in colombia after a couple of weeks without sex, she is again in deep need. but she found a solution. and here it is, she reveals me the best kept secret of bogota. there is actually a brothel for women looking for sex with boys named apollon close to calle 28. a goes to this club once a month when she is in colombia and not working. unbelievable, even a hooker used to be paid for sex, once in colombia has no other choice than paying herself to get sex with men!!!
a explains me everything. it’s an upscale place with 30 boys dressed like village people: cow-boy, indian, cop, fireman and they have a number. women sit at a table and just call a boy by his number. there are several options, a simple strip-tease for about 20$ or going to the room on site for 40$. rule is that the boy don’t need to orgasm. session is 20min or ends when the woman gets her orgasm. the boy puts a special gel on his penis made of amazonian plants in order to get an erection then puts the condom on. during all the session he watches the woman in her eyes to detect any orgasm. a jokes about it as she tells that women try to hide their orgasm to stay longer. but they are so horny in this environment that they can’t resist very long.
can you believe that ? colombianas have such sexual frustrations that they are ready to pay for that. a explains me that if there are no more of such clubs it’s only because most colombianas simply can’t afford to pay. most customers are from the high society of bogota. i now understand why it was so easy to date a girl in colombia and why it’s so easy to get gfe from colombian hookers.
i haven’t finished, the best is here to come. a advices me to work in this club. i’m surprised, as i have not the body anymore of a chippendale dancer. a tells me that on the contrary i would be the most popular boy of the club. not only the more popular boys are the mature ones, but also colombianas love western men. they make a blood test before and they have even rooms to stay. i start to dream. if there is one country in the world where i could do this job, it would be no doubt in colombia, as 90% of women walking around turn me on. i’m a monger, but my most memorable sessions are always when the girls get their orgasm too. giving orgasms everyday to so many women is simply a dream for me. i start to joke with a that it’s a funny idea she going abroad and i going to colombia to prostitute ourselves due to sexual unbalance. i promise her that it will be always free for her and she is glad to know that. i start to ask a about a few tips, especially how she manages the emotional issue when dealing with customers that are turn offs. a is glad to help me with her experience, i have never been so close to a hooker. i always try to get under the hookers’ skin, but i’m now at the point of getting to the other side of the mirror.
the brothel is closing, a asks me to wait for her as she needs to dress herself in a more conservative look before exiting. we exit from the side door, the main door being already closed and we go back to my hotel. we take our shower and enter the bed. a prepares the condom, but it will remain all night long where it is. a clamps herself on my body and smells my skin, eyes closed. i feel as if i found back an old girlfriend, there is such a chemistry. i remember very well how i did the first time and try to do the same. funny, she reacts again on the same way, i’m impressed. a told me she doesn’t kiss, but as soon as i put my lips on her lips, i feel her tongue trying to find a way to get in. we soon kiss passionately, on the same rhythm as my dicks touches her more intimate lips. i feel her pussy getting wet more and more, her hips moving faster and faster. she holds me tight, as if she fears i would go away, stimulating her clitoris with my penis, her legs getting more and more open. a can’t hold it anymore, and i feel her pussy being penetrated more and more. don’t try to moralize me, i know it’s all wrong, i am not trying to promote unsafe sex here. but when a woman wants it so strong, it’s simply impossible to refuse. a is on top, controlling the situation, fearing probably i would try to go back. but she soon turns herself on her back to get me on top and to allow a deeper penetration. her eyes beg me not stop, i feel each of her emotions through her pussy, stronger and stronger. it suddenly becomes very wet and i don’t feel anything anymore. as i had looked her straight into her eyes during all the session, i realized exactly what she meant about how detecting an orgasm in the women’s eyes. she hadn’t make any noise, but i had easily noticed her orgasm. i stop intercourse, even if i haven’t had my own orgasm, and it freaks her out. she seems to believe there was a problem on my side, starts to apologize for having lost control. she explains me that she had lost memory of how good it is having sex without condom, the last time being 5 years ago. she felt so good, she simply couldn’t control herself. she tells me she has just had her blood test for her working permit and that she is safe. but she adds that she would understand very well if i stop everything and bring her back, she shouldn’t have done what she did. she asks me to pie and clean myself up for my safety, forgetting about her own safety. she doesn’t seem to realize i was as guilty as her.
after the shower, i try to calm her down, taking her in my arms. i try to convince her it was simply magical for me. as i haven’t had my orgasm, i soon start to have again an erection and my dick on a natural way tries to find back the entrance of heaven’s door. i feel her legs opening again, her pussy getting wet again and i slip inside again. we stay arms in arms, being inside her without moving. she feels again confident, feeling me inside herself. i watch her face and it’s impressive how beautiful she looks feeling happy an beloved. giving such happiness to a woman is priceless. we both enjoy these moments of happiness but soon don’t hold it anymore, our hips start to move again faster and faster. i feel again her emotions through her pussy, her skin getting red, the muscles of her face contracting themselves. no doubt, she is going to pop again, i have to come fast to join her also. i wonder if i should orgasm outside, but she holds me so tight i have no other choice, i explode inside her. we feel both our hearts bouncing in our chests, but as soon as we are ready, we exit the bed to shower together. we turn off the light and fall asleep in bed, her naked body on mine.
in the morning, she wakes me up as i have a plane to catch. we smile at each other, both embarrassed about what has happened. i thank her for this magical night, but she insists in thanking me. i have to bring her back and we realize the dream is ending, we both go back to our own life. how difficult it must be for her to go from a magical dream back to the brothel’s hell. in the car she seems sad, contrasting with the night before. she starts to tell a very sad story, i had heard before. in the brothel’s restaurant, the police has put the description of a suspected murderer of a colombian hooker in petit chateau a few months ago. she tells me all the story that all the colombianas know in saint martin. a dangerous jamaican customer refused to put a condom, the poor girl tried to defend herself, the guy hit her till she dropped, rapped her through all the holes while unconscious with all kind of objects. when a girl found her, she couldn’t move anymore, could hardly explain what happened and soon died before any first aid. i have the tears in my eyes, imagining the family in colombia having to face her death, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and her prostitute status on the same time. it took a long time before her body could be transferred back to colombia.
i still don’t know how to manage this, when i have to leave a girl in her shit in front of a brothel after having spent such a wonderful night with her. we exchange email and she asks me when i will come back. i wonder if i should pay or not, but i fear to face again weeks of guilt and commitment, communicating together with heartbreaking mails and calls. being a coward, i prefer to pay, but i see in her eyes that it was not what she was expecting from me. she doesn’t thank me, looks a last time at me and disappears. i guess i had hurt her feelings, bringing her back to her hooker’s status. could be she had feelings for me. could be also that she simply would have preferred to be on the good side of the social scale and be the customer herself. at least pleasure was on both side.
Routard, thanks for sharing your story. It was good to read about a perspective of the scene that so few people ever experience or would even ever take the time to experience.
Routard,
This was one of the best and most interesting stories I ever read on ISG! Did you ever consider to write novels? I'm just joking. It was sure a good read.
Sailor2006
10-06-07, 20:02
Routard OMG!
I am offically with out words!
Aussie Mate
10-08-07, 01:10
Routard:
Fantastic read!
I've heard of that spot Apollon before, in fact, I think it's mentioned somewhere in the "Bogota Lists" section. Didn't think though a lady could session in there, I thought it was just a Chippendales type of place. Then again, this is Bogota where you've got several swinger clubs and all kinds of crazy shit, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Pretty amusing how the session length is set up though! :)
As for the sexual frustrations of the colombianas, tell me about it! ;) Last incall session I had in Bog, the girl almost ripped my chest hair and skin off as she crested to 5 orgasms. Yikes!!
I've been to St. Martin, and I'm surprised you've gotten so many good experiences there as it is a tough gig, if the girls are not getting work, their bills add up FAST, they are usually too worried about paying their bills for giving GFE. I had one mediocre experience with a girl I took out of "Defiance" (don't know if it's still called that) and I did have a very nice time with a caleña I took out of Seamen's which is probably the best option of what's there on the island.
Interesting that the more experienced girl I took out of Seamen's gave me GFE (whereas I thought she would be more cynical or hardened) while the 1st-timer got annoying by the 2nd day. I think a lot of the new girls are still adjusting and are overwhelmed with the treadmill aspect of the gig, i.e., one or two slow days and they are behind on their payments to the casa.
I'm shocked about the killing. The locals seemed to be pretty laid back to me, although I certainly wouldn't be alone in the rough parts of Philipsburg at night. Still, how anyone can commit a serious crime on a small island and think they can get away with it is beyond me, but I guess it does happen. :(
As for the payment aspect, if I was in your position, I would have paid something too. She does need the money after all, she's got bills to pay in SXM. Next time, just say you know she won't accept payment for her time but consider it a gift for her family because you really esteem her. . .
Thanks for your reaction guys. Phunluv, I couldn't find anything on Internet about Apollon, not even the adress, so let me know if you have more info.
Swing clubs is another scene I would like to try in Bogota.
Thanks for your reaction guys. Phunluv, I couldn't find anything on Internet about Apollon, not even the adress, so let me know if you have more info.Sorry, looks like I was mixing it up with another strip joint for ladies with a nearly identical name, Apolo's Men which is at Calle 85 con 11 (Zona T near Andino) NOT this Calle 28 place your girl mentioned. The web link for this other place is http://www.apolosmen.com.co Looks very upscale, but who knows maybe sessioning is possible in there too, the ladies have needs to be met also, ha ha! :)
Now I understand! I remember very well this location. I came back from the Irish Pub with a group of non pro girls, heading to my nearby appartment. I noticed this club (and especially the great looking girls that were entering) believing it was a regular disco. When I asked to give it a try, the girls giggled but didn't explain me why they didn't want to visit it with me.
Having said this, the name is indeed confusing, hard to believe there is a second club in the same town with the same name. But the club she told me about was clearly not in Zona Rosa.
Bango Cheito
10-10-07, 18:19
My gf has been to Apolos Men for parties. AFAIK there is no on-site action, but take-out may well be available. I dont think anybody on here is going to be interested in that though. If someone wants to PM me the message for the actual brothel with men in it that would be swell. Maybe I will take her there for her b-day 8)
Next time I come down we are DEFINITELY going to try a swingers club. We are going to try and compile the best list we can and hopefully have a good experience. As per my report in January, they didn't let us into ADN, it could very possibly have been because of our dress, I take it they are very strict. We are going to try a place called Europa that I believe is in Rosales or Zona G.
I am here in Bogota in my new apartment..- with low intrest rates and little money down it is cheaper than a good 4 star hotel. My girlfriend is absolutely kiling me. She has more energy than an energizer bunny. The fact that she is ONLY seeing me on a monthly basis makes for a great hot woman who is in dire need of sex. Her having 4-10 orgasms at a time over a 3-4 hour period is the norn. She wants to cook all meals but I need a few hours rest by going out to eat.
Her twin sisters schmuck husband, being a school holiday, took all the kids to santa marta. Now I have a pair of incredible twins to play with and 3 bedrooms to do it in. I have just begun to explore the possibiities.
Both girls are tall 5 foot 4 and 5 foot 5 with 36-22 waist 36 hips and incredible long legs. The twin of my gf is on the television frequently.
SORRY, I am being paged--do they mae a 1000mg viagra?
Well the truth finally comes out. My gf sister is not only a sex craved lunatic but a swinger. (incidentally as my son mentioned to me the women in movies and tv give the best bbbjs)
Tonight was a very interesting night. My gf sister and I went to a number of very upscale swingers cubs and finally selected a great looking couple for tomorrow night. The only exception is no one touches my gf. That seems fine with them. He recognized my gf sister from television and his wife is bisexual. So it looks like tomorrow night will be interesting. Having 3 drop dead women to have sex with and being the referee in a few othe situations. My gf and her sister have been tested for std's and aids numerous times, but we all agreed to get a current series before the debauchery begins.
It looks like I will need an additional person with a video camera just to remind me of what happens tomorrow.-more to follow if I survive.
Mel
I took up residence in Zona Norte at the Fontana hotel (US$90/night) - nice place and teeming with amazingly beautiful, well-off women all over the hotel. The hotel set me up with a driver and car for US$6/hr. I didn't like the driver as he was old and not very friendly--so as I would go from place to place with different cab drivers, I found one I liked who knew about the mongering scene well and stuck with him. My spanish is at best intermediate, but I'm latino so I fit in moreso than others. Although the quality of the women at spots like La Mansion, Lido, Casanova's etc. was very good, they are all major rip-off joints IMO. They charge upwards of 20k pesos for one drink (uno trago!). Not my type of place.
Anyway, my driver told told me the best place to go is an area named Conrrado-so I took him up on it (vamos). Depending on where you are coming from, negotiate with the driver to get you there--from the Norte area expect to pay between 10,000-15,000 pesos depending on your bargaining skills (off the meter). The ride is about 20-30 minutes depending on traffic. The best thing to do is have the cab driver drive you around the 5 or 6 blocks so you can get a general feel of the area. It is essentially a red light district with girls all over the place (street, bars, clubs).
Conrrado obviously isn't the greatest of areas, but for the most part I didn't feel like there was any impending doom. The best place here is La Piscina. A huge place with an olympic sized pool smack in the middle of it. There were around 80-100 girls here and an equal number of guys. The ladies were charging anywhere from 30k-80k pesos for short-time. You can definitely negotiate here and you will find some real stunners. My standards are pretty high having spent a significant amount of time in Brazil--but I would say there were at least four 10's here. Boob jobs were pretty common amongst the chicas. To sit around the pool you have to buy a bottle (or half a bottle). Since I was alone I didn't bother and was content standing around with my 3k pesos cerveza (~US$1.25). No cover charge.
My advice would be to check out the four/five blocks around this area as you will find quite a few gems. I'll warn you guys now--if you come out of La Piscina and make a right, at the end of the block you'll find a few transsexuals. They aren't as aggressive as some of the ones in Brazil are--so just take this as a light-hearted warning in case you're stoned or drunk. They are pretty obvious to spot though--not super-passable like the ones in Brazil who can pretty much fool damn near anyone. Speaking of stoned, if you are into perico, you can acquire this from any of the vendors selling gum/cigs for 'un pase'. 4-5k pesos will get you a baggie (~1 gram) which should be enough to wild out for the night.
My favorite place was also the most racous. Its around the block (or two blocks away) and called La Casona in the area of Conrrado. The girls here are not as hot as La Piscina, but you will have fun here. To put this in context, patrons, including the ladies were doing lines in the open on the tables--this might be way to crazy for most here, but I had a BLAST! I met this one guy who calls himself John and can speak broken spanish. He hooked me up with one of his girls, a sexy, petite 19 year old named Xiomara for $55 all night long. Feel free to give him a call at either 3103058652, or 3103058663--just tell him that he hooked up one of your friends with that girl Xiomara. She was pretty cool--we had one long 2 hour session after we got back to my place around 1am, she left at 7am--I was too tired for morning action.
Other action--there are three chica houses within several feet of each other at the corner of Calle 67-18 (I think this is in the Zona Norte area, but it might be right on the border).
Hope this helps some of you.
Hey everyone, just wanted to bump up this old post of mine. I did a search here for Conrrado but only found one other post besides mine here that mentioned the area explicitly. Can someone give me a heads up if this area is still a good place to go? Is this area close to Santa Fe? There are two La Piscinas from what I gather -- any idea which is the one I visited?
Finally, does anyone have any information on the Four Points Sheraton hotel? How is the location, girl friendly, etc.? Thanks!
Hoof Hunter
10-14-07, 22:50
Hey everyone, just wanted to bump up this old post of mine. I did a search here for Conrrado but only found one other post besides mine here that mentioned the area explicitly. Can someone give me a heads up if this area is still a good place to go? Is this area close to Santa Fe? There are two La Piscinas from what I gather -- any idea which is the one I visited?
The area is actually called Barrio Sante Fe. It's a good place to go, but not advisable at night, if alone, or not Spanish-speaking, or looking too much like a gringo.
There are two La Piscinas. One during the day, down the street called Piscina del Dia, open during the day approx. 12 pm - 8 pm. And the main version, open 7 pm until 2 or 3 am.
Not sure where the "Conrrado" came from. That's a neighborhood in Rio. LOL!!!
Bango Cheito
10-15-07, 07:01
No no, it's San Conrado that he's talking about. I know people who have been but I can't unfortunately get the address off of them, it's a LONG story.
Oh, and apparently it's one of the places where the girls will NOT do it w/o a condom, at least thats exactly what this person who went was *****ing about. This goes to our previous conversation HH ;)
I'll see if I can Google it up.
By some accounts Santa Fe is super dangerous, by others it's extremely safe, it all depends who you talk to. I wouldn't let my guard down there but I wouldn't let my guard down anywhere. Personally I think if you're going to be in Bogota you may as well go there as the ZR or any other place. Santa Fe LOOKS really bad but you are much more likely to get taken on a paseo etc. in the North. But once again, that does not mean it's necessarily 100% safe either.
There's another area called the Zona Roja Del Sur, on 1 de Mayo, NOT Cuadra Picha or the immediate area, but west of there along 1 de Mayo, THAT is the only entertainment district in Bogota that I would seriously recommend you stay away from unless you know exactly what you are doing.
Mel I hope you'll give a full report of the swinger thing, my gf and I really wanna do it right the next time I come down, which is right around the corner really :P
There's another area called the Zona Roja Del Sur, on 1 de Mayo, NOT Cuadra Picha or the immediate area, but west of there along 1 de Mayo, THAT is the only entertainment district in Bogota that I would seriously recommend you stay away from unless you know exactly what you are doing.
I have been there once, very different atmosphere compared to Zona Rosa. It's in the south, the poor area of Bogota and it's a good one hour drive from the North area depending traffic. Lot's of nightclubs and bars along the main avenue, 1 de Mayo, incredible party atmosphere, but only recommended for those familiar with Latin American. I didn't feel unsafe, but was happy to be with Colombians, as I was the only gringo. In fact, main problem are the drunk people by night on the streets. It might be a good place to score although I can't confirm it. I danced salsa with a few Colombianas, invited a few others for drinks, but didn't try to go further as I was already with a girl friend.
My gf sister and I went to a number of very upscale swingers cubs and finally selected a great looking couple for tomorrow night.
Can't wait to read your stories. Could you ask your gf sister for an overview of the swinger's scene in Bogota. Which are the best swinger clubs? Can you visit them as a single or is it better to come with a prepago?
AddictedToWomen
10-15-07, 17:22
I am here in Bogota in my new apartment..- with low intrest rates and little money down it is cheaper than a good 4 star hotel.
Hi Mel. I'm looking at buying an apt there too, but interest rates seem to be 10% or more, which doesn't seem very low to me.
Where have you found low interest rates for little money down?
Thw normal intrest rate is 10-12% unless you know someone. There is also a special exception for widows who can borrow against their government pension at an extremely low rate. I have both important frineds and a widow GF. Today I looked at a fantastic apartment calle 95 up against the mountain high with a great city view. Drive in underground garage, manned front desk, elevators, swimming pool, gym, sauna. 4 bedrooms, american size, $200k US.
If you go through the normal channels you will pay the normal intrest rate.
I forgot to mention you can also purchase a 3 bedroom apartment near plaza of the americas. In the south for 30k us$. I have been there and staye there and do not feel insecure.
Mel
Zona rosa south,
Avenue May 1.
I have spent a lot of time there and the action is great.
I would suggest sunset till about 11pm--I go sol, but those of you who know me, know I am crazy.
For more security go with a wingman.
If your spanish is poor forget it.
Remember shoes-no sneakers, no gold, no jewelry, no short sleeves, just plain clothes.
Mel
Routard,
I do not know where she took us but the clubs were VERY upscale. The women and men looked wealthy. I know you must have a woman with you and the places we went to required pre-screening. These were clubs in apartment buildings and not on street level. She knew a number of people in each club. I believe this is a very special group of people. Today is a Colombian holiday and she went home to be with her husband. I will try to get more info for you.
Mel
I am trying to make a "flow chart" of what happened last night.
After the first hour things became a blurr with who did what to whom with what. I am literally trying to remember all the details in sequence.
The computer I have here does not have microsoft word. I will have to wait till I get home to make the writeup as this program will time out before I can get down all the details. I still have 6 more days to go-I need a spare dick as the one I have is in very poor shape.
Mel
Bango Cheito
10-15-07, 21:45
I have been there once, very different atmosphere compared to Zona Rosa. It's in the south, the poor area of Bogota and it's a good one hour drive from the North area depending traffic. Lot's of nightclubs and bars along the main avenue, 1 de Mayo, incredible party atmosphere, but only recommended for those familiar with Latin American. I didn't feel unsafe, but was happy to be with Colombians, as I was the only gringo. In fact, main problem are the drunk people by night on the streets. It might be a good place to score although I can't confirm it. I danced salsa with a few Colombianas, invited a few others for drinks, but didn't try to go further as I was already with a girl friend.
It sounds to me like you were in the Cuadra Picha area, which despite it's name is actually safer than the ZR and the 93. I recommend that area for ANYBODY going to Bogota. The club owners take a very strong interest in keeping it safe and have private security, which can often be much better than police :P but there is also a strong police presence there.
Just a quick note (because I am waaaay out of my forum comfort zone over here in Colombia), but a quick bit or research suggests that 10% isn't that high.... inflation in Colombia is about 4.5%, so in real terms, the rate is 5.5%.
By comparison, the US has an inflation rate of about 2.5%, so, a rate of 10% in Colombia is about the same as a rate of 8% in the US - unless of course you are borrowing US dollars in Colombia, then forget everything I just said.
Also, don't be afraid of borrowing money internationally - lots of the offshore banks will lend you money to buy a house wherever as long as you can jump through whatever hoops they want you to (the Singaporeans are big on that sort of thing, they'll even lend you money in US $, pounds, Euros and a few other currencies, but not COP afaik). Presupposing you earn US $, the only risk of borrowing in a foreign currency is that if the dollar tanks even further, your payments will rise in proportion - the flipside is, if the dollar gets stronger, your payments will drop. Once more if you borrow and pay for the place in $ then this isn't applicable either.
Just my way of pouring a couple of cups of love back into the great river which nourishes us all, I hope it is helpful.
Hi Mel. I'm looking at buying an apt there too, but interest rates seem to be 10% or more, which doesn't seem very low to me.
Where have you found low interest rates for little money down?
No no, it's San Conrado that he's talking about. I know people who have been but I can't unfortunately get the address off of them, it's a LONG story.
Hoof is correct. Those places La Piscina and La Casona are in Barrio Santa Fe.
Use the Transmilenio stop Calle 22 as a reference point. Getting off at this stop, you'll see the neon sign for La Piscina.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calle_22_(TransMilenio)
Bango Cheito
10-16-07, 18:25
But there IS also a place called San Conrado, (In Bogota as well as Rio :P )
But there IS also a place called San Conrado, (In Bogota as well as Rio :P )
So is San Conrado anywhere near Barrio Santa Fe? Which area are La Casona and La Piscina in?
Any details on what goes on in San Conrado? Similar to Santa Fe?
Hoof Hunter
10-16-07, 22:54
So is San Conrado anywhere near Barrio Santa Fe? Which area are La Casona and La Piscina in?
Any details on what goes on in San Conrado? Similar to Santa Fe?
We KNOW that La Piscina, Casona, Castillo, Las Paisas, etc. are in Barrio Sante Fe. Period. Full stop.
Bango - where exactly is San Conrado? Is it a barrio or just one place? How does it compare to Barrio Sante Fe? Research, baby, research. LOL!!!
Bango Cheito
10-17-07, 05:12
I'm working on it, maybe we should ask on CB hahahahaahah!
Bango Cheito
10-17-07, 06:59
OK research complete...
Apparently it's called Conrrado and it's at cll 6 and cra 30. I imagine any taxista worth his or her salt could take you there. I believe that neighborhood is called Galan and it's mostly Estrato 3. Hopefully somebody will take one for the team. Like I said I have to focus on swinger clubs next time I'm down. Actually my gf grew up really near to there so it's probably a good idea we avoid that shit for the time being altogether... but somebody go check it out and let us know what's what!
Bango Cheito
10-17-07, 07:07
Another tip from the same dude.... this is an underground place... it's right at the corner of 81 and 16, watch where all the HOT women enter in getting out of the vans and follow them up. Why is it underground when prostitution is legal over there? Beats me. But I'm just passing it along :P
Today I had an opportunity to escape from home and go mongering.
I had found an MP on Internet that was Calle 129 bis 35-06.
I have tried to found it several times without success, but one day as I was having lunch at the north’s motorway’s Cali Mio I saw a couple of cuties enter a house and I realized that it was the MP. I was just amazed and can’t understand why their Internet’s site wouldn’t give that information that makes it so easy to found. So, once again, to find it, go south on the north motorway and when you see the Cali Mio (chicken restaurant) on your right, the MP is just in front of it (north of the restaurant). They have some place to park a car but it is definitely better to go with a taxi. If you come from the south, just ask the taxi driver to let you at the bridge after the Chevrolet dealer (Continauto). Cross the motorway with the bridge, turn right and walk 2 blocks till the Cali Mio restaurant. The entrance is just after the restaurant.
Well, I arrived around 3pm and got in the house at the 2nd floor.
I have been received by a working girl as soon as I got in the place.
She took me to a room and explained me the prices: 150K for an hour full service. If you want a real bed and not a massage table you have to pay an extra 30K and go to 3rd floor. They have more services like massage, happy endings, nude girl, . I asked to see the girl and I was presented to more than 12 girls, all in short black dress.
At that game, I noticed a real nice girl, slim, not to tall (1, 6m), with long hairs, nice medium size tits and a very nice face: Liliana.
I asked her if she would do a BBBJ and let me do a DATY to her and she agreed. I then asked her for pictures and she said no.
As the second floor only have massage table and was very noisy I decided to go upstairs.
We got in the room and start our relation.
Rooms are nice and big with a good bed and a lot of mirrors every where.
I gave her a strong DATY that she seemed to enjoy as she moan a lot and press my head in her legs. After a while I turned a little bit and she grabbed my dick to enter in 69.
Her BBBJ was very good and I had to stop her after 5 minutes for not coming right away.
I then put my best friend on her pussy and start to rub it on her clit. She left me do it but she was worried that I could enter her. I tried to propose her a tip to go BBFS but she was not ready to accept that and told me no.
She then covered me and we went to several positions.
Liliana was very willing to please but, I was not feeling much with the condom.
I had to stop 3 or 4 times as I was very tired and I was loosing stiffness.
At a moment I went on my back and ask her to finish me with her hand.
She seemed glad to do it and took the condom out and gave me a very good HJ till the happy ending.
She then cleaned me and the bed of my milk and went directly to the shower while I remained on the bed to recover.
After a few minutes, she came back with her clothes on. I told her that only 35 minutes have passed and that we had a full hour commitment. She told me that it was 1 hour and 1 relation. As I had come that was the end of it. .
I told her that I was not OK with that and she accepts to remain with me. She starts to touch me and in no time I was stiff again!
I took her clothes off and put her on the bed. She was saying no all the time but she left me do it. I gave her another DATY but she was closing her legs and trying to escape.
So, of course I couldn’t do much more but we had some good DFK and I could finger her again. But then, the hour was finished and I accept with a hard dick to put my clothes on again. As I told her that she was telling me no all the time, she finally accepted to let me take a picture.
I then paid her took her phone number and kissed good bye.
She promised me that she would go BBFS if I call her.
As she was really nice I may try that if I can found another opportunity to escape home again.
Cheers
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Sorry we could not meet up.
I was free most of Saturday.
I am now back in the USA.
Mel
I have spent 40 minutes checking thouroughly the area, but it appears that Bar Zhivago isn't there anymore:
Bar Zhivago (Juan Pablo Karaoke), Carrera 18 # 93A-83, 80,000 Bar Fine, Starting Price COP 200,000 60 mins.
Everyone knows the Two Piscina establishments in Santa Fé. However, someone mentioned on this board a Piscina in Zona Rosa. True or False ? If true, where ? Santa Fé is too seedy for my taste, I prefer higher end venues. A Piscina in Zona Rosa would be great.
I have tried a good provider (Sharik) with the escort site www.niisha.com . Damage was COP 180K for 1 hour. Expensive, but the girl was exactly like the pictures, and exactly like I ordered her. We checked the website together and the pictures were truly hers.
Sharik is 25 years old. She is a former pro that left the business in order to start her beauty and hair saloon. She has come back to the business in order to pay for her debts and her employees' salaries.
Not tall, impeccable appearance, a very thin blonde spinner. Sex was so good with her that I spent all of our time on the basics (missionnary and cowgirl), not even doing any of the other positions. Apparently, the fact that I am very well groomed and that I use quality masculine perfume turned her on. As I was caressing her, she became so wet, that I could feel the wetness across her short and her pants! She moaned quite loudly when I did DATY on her. She's been gone for one hour now, and the bed is still wet where she laid.
I wanted to take her for an extra hour, but she was in a hurry to come back to her saloon, that her employees were keeping open! I really do not regret the service, and I would repeat.
Wow, I am still flabbergasted: a Columbian escort site with real pictures! Well, not everything is perfect. Her description mentioned that she did anal, and this was NOT the case.
Regards to you all! BB.
PS. I also tried a provider with the www.superamantes.com website. I do NOT recommend. The girls are average looking, not at all like the pictures on the website, and act much too professionnal for my taste. The only positive thing was that they sent me two girls, so that I could pick the one I liked best. Price was COP 160K + 20K taxi for the girl that I sent away.
PS. I also tried a provider with the www.superamantes.com website. I do NOT recommend. The girls are average looking, not at all like the pictures on the website, and act much too professionnal for my taste.
I took a look at the site. I know one of the girls, Melissa, has a fake set of pictures. The woman featured there is a porn star named Caroline Pierce. That photo set was featured on one of those Bang Brothers sites. I know because I have the sets, and she is one of my all time favorites.
I have spent 40 minutes checking thouroughly the area, but it appears that Bar Zhivago isn't there anymore
Too bad, this was my favorite place. Regarding another Piscina in Zona T, I guess someone mixed it up with one of the clubs on calle 86 Cr15 (Extasia, Casanova and Copacabana) as one of them has indeed something that looks like a swimming pool inside. Anyway, these clubs are the closest from Zona Rosa you can find.
While walking through the mall, I was once again impressed by the cutties walking around. It’s simply amazing and I love how they watch me straight into my eyes and smile. It happens all day long here, and it has never ever happened me not even once in my hometown. Simply incredible. I have to add at this point that I have never ever tried to date anyone anymore since 20 years and I felt quiet nervous about it. Well believe it or not, but just a couple of hours after landing in Bogotá, I was already at a pub together with 4 pretty young girls. Not one night during that week I was alone, the social time was simply incredible. I could meet as much beautiful girls as I liked, coming from the best backgrounds and in the finest environments.
Hello Routard!
I was really enthusiastic with your posts about Bogota, and I tried to follow in your footsteps ... and I am sorry to report complete failure. When I am in Brazil, I do like you do and it is heaven! I tried to do the same in Bogota and failed miserably.
First, I did not find the girls in the street beautiful at all, as compared to Brazil, and especially Argentina. In all of 3 days here, I only saw one Colombiana that could classify as a top model, where in Argentina and Brazil, there were so many.
You mentioned that girls walking in the street look at you straight in the eyes, are always ready to start a conversation, and never refuse an invitation for a drink. You must be blessed! Because I found the girls in Bogota wary, distrustful, always polite but not ready to engage conversation. Especially in the higher class districts, women can even give you hard looks meaning "do not disturb!".
I do not understand. I am quite used to Latin America, speak perfect Spanish, and always have a wonderful time in Argentina, Brazil or Mexico.
Is it the recent economic wealth that is turning the Bogotan like New Yorkers? Next time I will try Cali and Medellin.
Bimbo Boy.
I found the girls in Bogota wary, distrustful, always polite but not ready to engage conversation. Especially in the higher class districts, women can even give you hard looks meaning "do not disturb!".
I feel sorry to hear that. It's always amazing how people can have different experience for a same destination. I did Brazil and Colombia in the same trip,only 15% of girls walking around in Copa Cabana turned me on compared to 90% in Zona Rosa of Bogota. True, this is a very personal opinion. In Bogota I did mainly the amateur scene while I had not even one freeby in Rio. I confess, I didn't even try the amateur scene in Rio mainly because I'm more comfortable in Spanish than Portuguese, but also because the Terma scene is so amazing.
Have you tried Irish Pub in Zona Rosa on Friday or Saturday? This is the main spot where expats meet regular girls from the higher class districts. Could be that it's hard for a tourist to hook-up with a girl as they are looking for real relation. I acted as if I was an expat myself (I am actually an expat but in another country) in my behaviour and dressing, having an appartment, a few business relations and friends among expats. This might be the reason maybe of a complete different experience.
By the way, Expats and Colombians all confirmed me that party atmosphere is much better in Medellin and people are much more open in Medellin that Bogota. Bogota was already for me amazing, Medellin is on top of my to do list.
Bartolomeus
10-30-07, 17:38
I have spent 40 minutes checking thouroughly the area, but it appears that Bar Zhivago isn't there anymore:
Bar Zhivago (Juan Pablo Karaoke), Carrera 18 # 93A-83, 80,000 Bar Fine, Starting Price COP 200,000 60 mins.Hi there,
I was there yesterday and can confirm it is still up and running.
Have fun
Bartolomeus
10-30-07, 20:22
Too bad, this was my favorite place. Regarding another Piscina in Zona T, I guess someone mixed it up with one of the clubs on calle 86 Cr15 (Extasia, Casanova and Copacabana) as one of them has indeed something that looks like a swimming pool inside. Anyway, these clubs are the closest from Zona Rosa you can find.Hi guys,
I actually was in Bar Shivago last night, it is still up and running. The reason it was closed the last couple of days was because of the elections, that`s at least what the door guy said.
Enjoy
I feel sorry to hear that. It's always amazing how people can have different experience for a same destination.
Yes, we all have different experiences. I have actually also given up on the pro scene in Brazil, as I have more non-pro's than I can handle ... in several cities!
By the way. Today's experience was better. I was dressed "casual chic", with expensive shoes and leather jacket. I was also carrying a couple of bags from a nice shop in El Andino shopping center. I noticed that girls looked at me much more often ... after noticing my branded purchasing bags! I was much more successful than when I was just wearing a business suit.
This is a proof that Colombian girls are very status conscious ... but that is true for all Latinas ... and for women worldwide anyway ...
Thanks for the tip on the British pub. Medellin and other regional capitals are on my plans!
Regards. Bimbo Boy.
Hi,
This is my second post. I just found out about this web page today. I am a Colombian man living in Bogota and I want to help you with anything you want. If you want to buy an apartment the best place to do it, if you want to get it cheap in a safe zone is about from 45 to 72 above the septima. This place is called chapinero alto. This place is where students live, so if you are looking forward to buy an apartment, on this area are mainly 1 or 2 rooms. All international Flights get to El dorado airport. If you are heading to an other city in Colombia by Avianca, a bus willl take you to the puente Aereo. As for pros, I can tell a good website with real pictures is Niisha.com, complice. Tk. The pros are charging a lot lately, the cheaper ones you can find are about 150K the hour. Feel free to ask anything, I suggest Paulina from Niisha.
Dodger Bulldog
10-31-07, 03:48
It's always amazing how people can have different experience for a same destination. I did Brazil and Colombia in the same trip,only 15% of girls walking around in Copa Cabana turned me on compared to 90% in Zona Rosa of Bogota.I've got to agree with you, Routard.
I am convinced that my expectatons and dreams were way too high for Rio. I was disappointed in both
the looks and the attitudes there.
At the same time, I enjoyed the hell out of my trip to Bogota, quite a bit more than Medellin.
It's a good thing that we have so many different tastes. If we all coveted the same type of girl in the
same place, none of us could possibly afford her.
The world is our oyster, and it is a big, big place.
When you think about it, our views will natuarally be skewed by the girls we met and the quality of the
experiences we had. How many chicas do most of us meet on a trip? Maybe 10? Sometimes 20?
In a city of 3 million people like Bogota or 6 million in Rio or 12 million in Buenos Aires, that is
nothing. Absolutely nothing. Our sample size is so small that it really is silly to judge a place
by our handful of experiences.
But we can't help from doing it anyway, can we?
DB
I feel sorry to hear that. It's always amazing how people can have different experience for a same destination.
Well, it may have something to do with the weather as well. Most of the time it was rainy and cold. It was also election time with the "dry laws" shutting the bars at night. This may have an influence on people's morale. I may have come at the wrong period.
BB.
Most of the time it was rainy and cold.
As always in Bogota, don't worry about the weather effect. On the other hand, elections may have had a bad influence. Another thing is that nightlife is incredible on Friday and Saturday, slow during week days and almost dead on Sunday. I remember I was so depressed on Sunday evening that I called a prepago for meeting me at Irish Pub. I had even decided to leave Bogota and give Medellin a try. But on Monday, before I could book a flight to Medellin, I had already plenty of calls and a busy schedule for the rest of the week. :)
It's a good thing that we have so many different tastes. If we all coveted the same type of girl in the same place, none of us could possibly afford her.
Can't agree more with that.
It's obvious that we all have different tastes and those looking for tall blondes girls for example might be disappointed in Colombia.
But I have another theory. I guess each of us attract also different types of girls. That means that each of us might experience different reactions from girls in different coutries. Yes, it's obvious that I love Colombian looks. But I have also the feeling that for some indefined reason it's in Colombia that girls like most my look or attitude. In no other country I have experienced so many girls looking and smiling at me, and I mean regular girls of course. If you guys tell me that you don't experience the same in Colombia but you experience this in other countries where I have no girls smiling at me, then my theory might be true. It might sound silly, but for example I hate my chin. Well, no one will compliment me about my chin elsewhere, not even hookers. Guess what, Colombianas always notice my chin as being what they like about me. Maybe it's the chin of some kind of Colombian telenovela star, duno. :D
Anyway, I have no explaination, I guess my chin has nothing to do with it, all I can say is that there seems to be a strong mutual attraction between Colombianas and me, and having visited more that 50 countries throughout the world, I finally found the place where I should settle. I guess each of us should then go around the world and find the country that fits him like a penis in a pussy.
I have a 4 hour layover on Monday Nov 5th in Bogota and would like to get some service while I wait. Are there any casas or massage parlors close to the airport? Will I have enough time? I have read the forum extensivley but can't find any info as to location and distance to airport. I will be travelling on to Aruba and you can read my reports of Aruba since I am very experienced with the Happy People.
I will be returning to Bogota on Friday Nov 9th for a 12 hour layover 7:30pm to 7:00am. I will be getting a room at the Cosmos 100. Is this hotel chica freindly? Anyone want to get together? Let me know.
Thanks!
I have checked the massage place Abejitas (www.abejitas.com) in the Zona Rosa.
I can't comprehend how people can go to massage places like these to get laid. It's like a "service station" for people to blow their load. There are rows of narrow massage beds on wheels, positionned in narrow rooms. I found it very depressing and walked away. This is very very far from any GFE.
The staff seemd to be relatively good looking and friendly though.
Regards BB.
Bango Cheito
11-03-07, 11:21
J Screen your best bet would be to have the hotel staff order outcall for you. There is stuff going on all over the city but I personally don't know anything about right near the airport, even though I know the area very well from having stayed around there a lot. Off of Avenida El Dorado I know there are a bunch of love motels but I assume people bring their own pussy there. Aside from that the area is very very residential.
Usuario Mck
11-06-07, 03:23
If you're looking for a good guide in Bogota, I can help you. I will instruct you in another report.
Just Learning
11-06-07, 16:01
Is the "La Mansion" in Bogota still active? I have read reports from a year or two ago about this place (on Calle 116 and Autopista) but haven't heard anything about this place more recently. Has anyone been there recently.
Is the "La Mansion" in Bogota still active? I have read reports from a year or two ago about this place (on Calle 116 and Autopista) but haven't heard anything about this place more recently. Has anyone been there recently.Still alive and very busy. Was there about 1 month ago on a Friday night. Take out there is 150, 000 pesos and a drink is 20, 000. Still a good place and lots of girls.
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By the way, Expats and Colombians all confirmed me that party atmosphere is much better in Medellin and people are much more open in Medellin that Bogota. Bogota was already for me amazing, Medellin is on top of my to do list.
I'll tell you what, the people are even more open in Cali or Barranquilla than Medellin.
Hello Routard!
I was really enthusiastic with your posts about Bogota, and I tried to follow in your footsteps ... and I am sorry to report complete failure. When I am in Brazil, I do like you do and it is heaven! I tried to do the same in Bogota and failed miserably.
First, I did not find the girls in the street beautiful at all, as compared to Brazil, and especially Argentina. In all of 3 days here, I only saw one Colombiana that could classify as a top model, where in Argentina and Brazil, there were so many.
You mentioned that girls walking in the street look at you straight in the eyes, are always ready to start a conversation, and never refuse an invitation for a drink. You must be blessed! Because I found the girls in Bogota wary, distrustful, always polite but not ready to engage conversation. Especially in the higher class districts, women can even give you hard looks meaning "do not disturb!".
I do not understand. I am quite used to Latin America, speak perfect Spanish, and always have a wonderful time in Argentina, Brazil or Mexico.
Is it the recent economic wealth that is turning the Bogotan like New Yorkers? Next time I will try Cali and Medellin.
Bimbo Boy.
Hey amigo ... give Cali, Medellin or the coastal cities a try. I think you'll be pleased.
If you've got a pleasant personality and speak spanish, you'll make friends very quickly. Trust me :)
AddictedToWomen
11-09-07, 22:24
Still alive and very busy. Was there about 1 month ago on a Friday night. Take out there is 150, 000 pesos and a drink is 20, 000. Still a good place and lots of girls.
Nice place, but not sure its worth the money: the same girls often work other more economical outlets. Even bumped into one girl I knew who worked there on the street.
With Bogotá having almost three times as many inhabitants as Medellin (6.8 million vs 2.3 million), I find it somewhat intriguing that the Medellin subforum here has almost twice as much traffic.
Does this mean that Medellin gets twice as many tourists?
Does Bogota have three times as large of a P4P scene?
What keeps folks away from Bogota? Weather? Cost? Expansiveness of the city?
Personally, I've been to both cities and heading back to Bogota again later this month. I tend to give an edge to Bogota primarily because it is more of a cosmopolitan city comprised of Colombians from all over Colombia with the added bonus of many foreigners living there. There is a greater selection of international cuisines, cultural activities and having businesses in finance, Bogota's is Colombia's financial epicenter.
How about you folks?
With Bogotá having almost three times as many inhabitants as Medellin (6.8 million vs 2.3 million), I find it somewhat intriguing that the Medellin subforum here has almost twice as much traffic.
Does this mean that Medellin gets twice as many tourists?
Does Bogota have three times as large of a P4P scene?
What keeps folks away from Bogota? Weather? Cost? Expansiveness of the city?
Personally, I've been to both cities and heading back to Bogota again later this month. I tend to give an edge to Bogota primarily because it is more of a cosmopolitan city comprised of Colombians from all over Colombia with the added bonus of many foreigners living there. There is a greater selection of international cuisines, cultural activities and having businesses in finance, Bogota's is Colombia's financial epicenter.
How about you folks?From what I hear, Medellin is much safer and easier to get around, so I continue to return there.
As a general rule, when I vacation, mongering or not, I want to go to a place with weather least as good as where I come from, if not better (and I live in CA). So no way I'm going to Bogota, despite what it has to offer. I spent 3 hours in the Bogota airport and I remember getting a little light headed from the altitude also. Makes it harder to hit the ground running. When I go someplace, spending lots of money to get there, I want to take clothing off, not put it on! (chicas and skiiing aside).
I prefer hot and humid over cool/cold any day. But that's me.
I'm not putting down Bogota in any way, just prefer nicer climates.
With Bogotá having almost three times as many inhabitants
as Medellin (6.8 million vs 2.3 million), I find it somewhat intriguing that the Medellin subforum here has almost twice as much traffic.
Does this mean that Medellin gets twice as many tourists?
Does Bogota have three times as large of a P4P scene?
What keeps folks away from Bogota? Weather? Cost? Expansiveness of the city?
Personally, I've been to both cities and heading back to Bogota again later this month. I tend to give an edge to Bogota primarily because it is more of a cosmopolitan city comprised of Colombians from all over Colombia with the added bonus of many foreigners living there. There is a greater selection of international cuisines, cultural activities and having businesses in finance, Bogota's is Colombia's financial epicenter.
How about you folks?
From what I hear, Medellin is much safer and easier to get around, so I continue to return there.
actually on a per capita basis, Bogota is much safer than MDE, especially for foreigners since Bogota experiences a much higher percentage of business travellers.
Bango Cheito
11-12-07, 18:26
I think most people prefer the weather in Medellin and apparently the girls are considered better-looking, but both of those are subjective. The typical Paisa look isn't what turns me on, I prefer girls with a little more junk in the trunk :P and personally I LOVE Bogota's weather. I hate the heat.
As for crime, no way in hell Medellin is safer than Bogota. Both cities were a lot more dangerous 10 years ago but Medellin has always had more crime. In both cities though, everybody freaks out over the major crimes like homicides and kidnappings, but really you should put your energy into watching out for the petty crimes which are much more prevalent, like having your pocket picked or your bag snatched.
Just Learning
11-14-07, 17:21
So what is a good hotel which is Chica friendly. Last time I stayed a Casa Dann Carlton and they didn't let anyone not registered at the time of checking in after 9 pm. Any good recommendations?
Mister Ecua
11-15-07, 06:35
Hello everyone,
I have pretty much been lurking here on the Colombia reports for 3 weeks, I am finally on my way later on today. I didn't really want to post anything because I did not have any information to share, but after this weekend, I will have plenty.
A little about myself (I think everyone should do this to get a better feel on how their experience was and how another person can get a better understanding of how they can fall and share the same experience):
I'm 22 y/o, 6'2, half Ecuadorian half Dominican, a lot of people think I'm African American, live in the nation's capitol, speak spanglish and kind of shy :) Peru is my usual mongering spot, but I decided to check Colombia out.
I've pretty much read every page on Bogotá here and I am going to try to hit a lot of good places. I have already started by arranging dates from ladies online. A good place for you guys to check out is Hi5.com. Kind of like myspace.com but a lot of latinos from central and south america are on it, from all age ranges too! I sent out a shit load of messages, and got a pretty good response. I narrowed my picks down to 6 and I know I am going to have to cut that down because I'm only in Bogota for 3 days. I have one of them picking me up from the airport!
If anyone wants to hang out on Friday night, let me know, I'm definitely down for some tag teaming. Reports and pics to cum! I hope these ladies can handle a big slice of meat inside them!
Here of some pics of the ladies I have to narrow down.
Cabroncito
11-15-07, 17:50
So what is a good hotel which is Chica friendly. Last time I stayed a Casa Dann Carlton and they didn't let anyone not registered at the time of checking in after 9 pm. Any good recommendations?
Speaking of hotel recommendations, can someone suggest a place close to the airport where I could nap for a few hours during a layover. Not too expensive or noisy ?
thanks !
Hopes not those girls from hi5 see them selfs on the international sexgide page. If they do I don't think you have so nice time with them.
Hello everyone,
I have pretty much been lurking here on the Colombia reports for 3 weeks, I am finally on my way later on today. I didn't really want to post anything because I did not have any information to share, but after this weekend, I will have plenty.
Mister Ecua
11-17-07, 18:55
Hopes not those girls from hi5 see them selfs on the international sexgide page. If they do I don't think you have so nice time with them.Before I post any photos, I make sure first to put them online. Actually, 3 of the ladies I've been with have requested me to put more photos up here after I showed them the site.
...after I showed them the site.
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Everytime a guy tells his favorite puta about this site, god kills a kitten.
They can read you know. Makes it a little harder to win when you show them the playbook, ya?
AddictedToWomen
11-19-07, 11:50
Speaking of hotel recommendations, can someone suggest a place close to the airport where I could nap for a few hours during a layover. Not too expensive or noisy ?
thanks !
Closest one I know to the airport, apart from the motels, is the Forte. But for a few hours kip its prob hard to beat the motels.
hey there can anyone recommend a taxista in Bog? Also what is the going rate per hour if I need a taxi for 5-6 hours to drive me around town? Thanks.
Bango Cheito
11-20-07, 22:56
12k per hour.
I think these guys can help you
I haven't used them so let me know how they are.
www.bogotacasa.com
touched down in bog on thursday and immediately got my non-pros into the rotation by letting them know i was in town and setting up times to meet with them.
long story short, i've gone out with four of them (taking them to eat, for drinks at a bar, or going to dance at a lounge in zona rosa) and shagged two. the other two i didn't care to mostly because it looked like i would have to put in several days of work, which i couldn't dedicate given my limited time here (i leave in two days!).
spent some time in barrio santa fe, at places like piscina, las vegas, atunes, club paisa, etc. lots of gems hidden throughout the area, but you've got to put in the work. i think the best time to go is around 6-7pm. as many people have already pointed out, the area is a little rough around the edges and there are lots of suspect characters out and about. i fit in very easily so i barely get a second look, despite my lack of fluency in spanish (i do get by very well). you will undoubtely see lots of perrico usage in the clubs, both by the girls and customers.
i took home an 18 year old spinner named tatiana from las vegas (easily a solid 8, but on my scale she is 9). she's about 5'2", 100lbs, amazing ass and nice size breasts (maybe 34b). she speaks perfect english having lived in texas for a while with her mom. we got very cool and her personal story is pretty sad. her mom is a drug addict who lives in texas, undocumented, and also was a puta while in bogota. tatiana has been stripping in clubs in houston since the age of 15, and living as a runaway. eventually ins caught up with her and she was deported. she started living the puta life around 17 and has been doing it for the last year or so.
one thing to watch out about las vegas is that you will encounter some **** girls, around 16-17. be careful here with that. i triple checked tatiana's cedula b/c since i was taking her home i did not want to get into a difficult situation if we happened to be stopped by the police.
i also checked out some clubs in the chapeniro area and that was okay. it was late so the pickings were slim.
i'm going to try to check out conrrado tonight. will report back more when i get a chance. i have three non-pros lined up for tonight as well - clearly i will only have time for one if i want to check out the p4p scene.
if anyone wants to try to connect with me before i leave, drop me a pm with your # and i'll drop you a line.
Bonhead,
What is perrico?
Thanks
Mel
MiamiHeatLuver
11-26-07, 21:12
Bonhead,
What is perrico?
Thanks
Mel
"White Lady"
White lady can be either coke or heroine? Which?
Thanks
Mel
Bango Cheito
11-27-07, 00:07
It's perico (one r).
So I stopped by Santa Fe to see Tatiana again (can't get her out of my mind). Soon as I walked in, a few girls who recognized me said 'hi' and mentioned they would go get Tati for me. I sit down, order a beer and check out the action before she finally shows up about 10mins later. When she does finally come down she walks right by me without saying hello, and pretending she didnt see me. She did this 2-3 more times until I caught her looking at me and then she acts all excited to see me and comes over and sits down.
Now I didn't mention this before, but when I took her out two nights before, she and I had an amazing time. We spent hours talking almost abonding the idea of having sex alltogether because we had such an awesome connection on a friendship level and getting deep about our lives. We finally did end up having some really good sex, and she actually stayed with me 6 hours longer then the original 7am TLN agreed upon time. When I walk her out in the morning to catch a taxi, she at refused to take money from me (we had agreed to 120k for TLN) -- but I really insisted and put it in her pocket.
Anyway, we talked pretty intimately about how awesome the connection was and also how weird it was for her to actually like me and for me to like her especially since I really just wanted to have some NSA fun. Anyhow, I'm sure most of you can hear the Akon song 'I'm in love with a stripper' playing in the background right about now.
Anyhow, we have a decent time over the three hours that I'm there, dancing, talking about our other night together and how intense it was. It was pretty obvious we were going to leave together since she must have turned down about 6 guys saying she was with me. Clearly I'm heading down the sucker path here, LOL.
Some things she told me were quite schocking. First off, gringos will usually get overcharged if they have never seen you before, usually double the price. She also tole me that the club was stuck up by armed robbers after they closed this past Sat morning for about 30 million COP (karma is a *****, eh?). Tati also introduced me to the manager, who is gay. Here is where you want to brace yourselves. Tati tells me that a semi common thing she and some other girls do in cohorts with the manager when the manager likes a guy is get the guy drunk, spike his drink and then take up the guy to a room. When the guy passes out, the girl will then let the manager have his way with the guy and the manager will pay the girls 2-300kCOP! After that happens the girl will then get naked and fall asleep in the same bed... when the guy wakes up in the AM he will be none the wiser with a mean hangover and some soreness in his butt. She also admitted to me that she has robbed 2-3 guys in the past for 2-3 million COP and always by spiking their drink. This was usually when she was tipped by others in the club that the guys she is with has a lot of money on them. After that I joked with her several times about how I am gonna just drink just cola for the rest of the night cuz there is no way that manager and I are getting anymore acquanited.
Some other things she told me -- she pointed out one girl who works there who is only 13 (and looks it). That same 13yo is also crazy she said--having stabbed three other girls there, one in the face. Two other girls she pointed out were only 15. All her friends call her 'cheritos' (or something like that) which means curly haired cute girl.
Around 150am she tells me she is heading upstairs and will be right back -- I'm thinking great shes gonna go get her jacket so we can head out. Lights come on, I settle the bill (60kCOP) for a small bottle of caldas rum and three cervesas. Her friends come by asking where is cheritos? I tell them I'm looking for her too and wanted to leave. They bring me upstairs to find her but I'm asked to wait while they go find her. 10 mins later her best friend comes by and says sorry but that she will call me tomorrow. No explanation offered and I didnt ask at that point, feeling kind of dejected at that point. So I leave, head home alone and feeling like a chump. Odd because after over 12 years of mongering, Ive never felt like this. I think I'm probably taking this to heart a little bit only because I get TONS of non-pro action all the time, not just overseas, but especially back home in the States. Now here is a HOOKER that I get to see a different side of, and she rejects ME! WTF!
Well I leave back to home tomorrow--another overall great, eye opening trip to CO.
Oh -- one other thing, I had a solid 7.5 19yo non-pro that I was hanging with who was totally into me -- but I left her to go hang with the *****! What is wrong with me?!
Gary Groundwork
12-02-07, 06:31
'Perico' is coke
World Travel 69
12-02-07, 11:34
I tried to PM you, but I guess you new to the forum. Please pay the cheap annual dues and I can PM you with an some very important info.
WT69
'Perico' is coke
AddictedToWomen
12-02-07, 16:33
White lady can be either coke or heroine? Which?
Thanks
Mel
Though if offered by you girlfriend's mother in the morning it's more likely to be scrambled eggs. At least given the mothers I've met. YMMV :)
Bango Cheito
12-03-07, 06:57
Bonhead, welcome to life on planet Earth. I hope you like the taste of blood :P
I NEVER let my drink go unwatched in a bar, not even for 1/2 a second. And unless I trust the people there (and I don't trust easily) I order bottled beer and open the shit myself. I don't stop at Colombia, I will do this EVERYWHERE on Earth. It really is like that everywhere, it's just way more obvious in South America, probably because of the different company you are keeping down there.
Precocious One
12-03-07, 15:33
Bonhead, welcome to life on planet Earth. I hope you like the taste of blood :P
I NEVER let my drink go unwatched in a bar, not even for 1/2 a second. And unless I trust the people there (and I don't trust easily) I order bottled beer and open the shit myself. I don't stop at Colombia, I will do this EVERYWHERE on Earth. It really is like that everywhere, it's just way more obvious in South America, probably because of the different company you are keeping down there.I used to live across the street from a bar in Manhattan Beach, CA and was a long-time regular there. One night after consuming no more than three beers (45 minutes), I was roofied by a couple of chinese girls and some guy they were with. Apparantly, I was talking with them for 15 minutes or so and my GF coincidentally stopped by to come and bring me home. I don't remember talking to them, coming home, falling on a my coffee table or going to sleep. I woke up in an altered but cognizant state aware that something was not quite right. My GF was initially pissed that I was talking to these girls but later realized that I had been drugged. I was wearing a Rolex President at the time and I believe that was thier target. Needless to say, I never leave my drink unattended in the US or anywhere else for that matter.
Hi guys. I'm heading to Bogota for my first time and could use some help picking a hotel. I reserved at the Boheme in Zona Rosa, but then read some reviews that said that it was really noisy and recommended La Candelaria area. Can someone please advise me which area is best? And if Candelaria is best can you recommend a hotel or two? Greatly appreciated!
Doc
Candelaria is for budget tourists, these hotels are not chica friendly and you are far from the action.
Bonehead,
Do you have the number of Tatiana? I also want to know how much she charges for the hour?
Hi guys. I'm heading to Bogota for my first time and could use some help picking a hotel. I reserved at the Boheme in Zona Rosa, but then read some reviews that said that it was really noisy and recommended La Candelaria area. Can someone please advise me which area is best? And if Candelaria is best can you recommend a hotel or two? Greatly appreciated!
DocDude,
I stayed at the Boheme Royal in Zona Rosa in May-June for about a week and had no problems. My room was facing the mall and I heard no noise. I usually stayed out to. At latest 2am. There is a club next door, but, I think unless your room is on the wall toward the club, you should be okay. The hotel was in my opinion, in a perfect area. Sandwiched between two great malls, walking distance to 2 or 3 casas, nearby to Bogota Beer Company, and many other great clubs and restaurants. When I was there you had to pay $40 for a guest after 7pm and free before that. Of course, when I was in my room at night, I was either banging a girl, or too drunk and just passed out to sleep! I never tried the Parque 93 area, which I've heard good things about, but I think Boheme Royal (or maybe their sister hotel 1 street over. Andino Royal) is in a perfect location. All the people I talked to (Americans) who lived there, said that was like the best location they could have imagined. Just my 2 cents!
Rodeo
Bonehead,
Do you have the number of Tatiana? I also want to know how much she charges for the hour?
sorry I do not have her number-she did not have a cellular and I was contacting her through her friend who did have a cell.
As far as how much she charges-I paid 120k for TLN. No clue about per hour as I tend to rarely ever go that route. But if you go see her at work, let us know how it went.
Cool Hand Luke
12-12-07, 16:25
Just arrived in Bogota for the first time. Expect to stay about a week here. Got about 6 weeks in total to spend between here Medellin and Cartagena. Be great to hear from anyone who wants to team up with a fairly well preserved middle-aged guy.
I've been here for the last month and I've never seen it this slow. There's been a lot less girls at the bars, that wouldn't be bad, but the quality has also gone down. Slow. Slow. Slow. Maybe they're all in Panama.
I'm talking about the chapinero and centro bars.
Hoof Hunter
12-16-07, 07:47
I've been here for the last month and I've never seen it this slow. There's been a lot less girls at the bars, that wouldn't be bad, but the quality has also gone down. Slow. Slow. Slow. Maybe they're all in Panama.
I'm talking about the chapinero and centro bars.
They're all back at home with their families for the holidays. Everything should be back up and running probably a week or two after the New Year passes.
Gary Groundwork
12-16-07, 23:33
I tried to PM you, but I guess you new to the forum. Please pay the cheap annual dues and I can PM you with an some very important info.
WT69
Don't have a credit card. It got stolen.
Gary Groundwork
12-16-07, 23:34
Bonhead,
Where is Santa Fe?
The only Santa Fe I know is a centro commercial.
Somebody had mentioned this gay guy earlier. He's got a pretty succesfull track record having started "Las Paisas, " "Venus" and now taking over "Las Vegas. " I was there about a month ago and it was very busy.
Would not recommend anyways, open heavy drug use by everyone, crowd mostly late teens and most important, girls on the ugly side.
Cool Hand Luke
12-17-07, 23:34
Finding a safe, well located hotel in Bogota at a decent price is not that easy. Recently, while there I stayed in one such hotel. It is called: Hotel La Sabana and is located in el centro. This is a small, fairly modern five storey building situated about 12 minutes walk from the Transmilenio. (Calle 22). It is safe, clean, has free Wi Fi and is only just over $30 per night. That said there are a couple of minor drawbacks. Firstly, if you want to take a girl back there is an additional charge (only $15). Secondly, although it has Wi Fi there is a filter in place which will stop you accessing any sex related sites (ISG included). While there I used the internet cafe directly opposite to access this site.
These points apart the hotel is good value for money.
Hotel La Sabana. Calle 23 No 5-23. Tel 284 4830.
Oceans Latobay
12-18-07, 03:33
Hello everyone,
I have pretty much been lurking here on the Colombia reports for 3 weeks, I am finally on my way later on today. I didn't really want to post anything because I did not have any information to share, but after this weekend, I will have plenty.
A little about myself (I think everyone should do this to get a better feel on how their experience was and how another person can get a better understanding of how they can fall and share the same experience):
I'm 22 y/o, 6'2, half Ecuadorian half Dominican, a lot of people think I'm African American, live in the nation's capitol, speak spanglish and kind of shy :) Peru is my usual mongering spot, but I decided to check Colombia out.
I've pretty much read every page on Bogotá here and I am going to try to hit a lot of good places. I have already started by arranging dates from ladies online. A good place for you guys to check out is Hi5.com. Kind of like myspace.com but a lot of latinos from central and south america are on it, from all age ranges too! I sent out a shit load of messages, and got a pretty good response. I narrowed my picks down to 6 and I know I am going to have to cut that down because I'm only in Bogota for 3 days. I have one of them picking me up from the airport!
If anyone wants to hang out on Friday night, let me know, I'm definitely down for some tag teaming. Reports and pics to cum! I hope these ladies can handle a big slice of meat inside them!
Here of some pics of the ladies I have to narrow down.
What's up bro,
Wanted to ask you about Bogota and what I should check out there, I've been to Cartagena but I'm going to Bogota for 3 days with my brother then onto to Cartagena. How is it there? I'm 6'0,27 y/o ex-college football/track athlete and good looking from Cali but residing in the ATL (Visit DC on biz alot) and I've been to DR, Venezuela, Colombia, Puerto Rico, Trinidad, Belize, Costa Rica, Mexico so I'm familiar with the latin scene to a tee.
I fly for free on Delta so I just pay the taxes to fly internationally non-stop anywhere from ATL so I get out alot on the international scene usually once-twice per month. I see you've been to Peru also, that's a spot I need to check out as well!
I saw those chicas you got @ on Hi5! How did that turn out? I used to be on amigos real hard a few years back.
If you yahoo-playboysheed or aol-playboysheed hit me up so we can exchange some notes, who knows we might be in the same spot at the same time! Holla back.
Bango Cheito
12-18-07, 03:46
Bonhead,
Where is Santa Fe?
The only Santa Fe I know is a centro commercial.
Santa Fe is a district, located east of Av Caracas I believe from 20-24 st's.
I will be in Bogota January 18-25.
Will anyone be there at that time?
Mel
I'll be in Bogota Jan. 15-19. Company would be welcome.
To Doc Bill:
I will be arriving at the same time period.
Meet me in Juan Pablo's Zhivago Bar after 11:00 pm on the 15th.
i tried to stay in the chapinero area for a change. i usualy stay in the north i wanted to see how safe it was to stay in chapinero. i'd stayed in http://www.hotellourdes.com. i took the 7 day plan that cost me aronud 50k a day only problem they charge 25k for guest, it's gf friendly no questions but they will charge you. its safe and perfect location many places during day time just walk around during the day and they will give you pamflets of the places prices go from 20k up quality from average to very good i was very surprised. i could see that some of the girls where **** 15-17 years old but there where up to 30. i prefer to stay in chapinero instead of the north because its cheaper and quality more or less the same except that there are less girls with surgery but they seem to be younger in chapinero next time i will try santa fe and tell you about my experiences.
hey grobo,
what places did you visit in chapinero? i'm a frequent visitor of this sector, maybe we can compare notes. c ya.
i tried to stay in the chapinero area for a change. i usualy stay in the north i wanted to see how safe it was to stay in chapinero. i'd stayed in http://www.hotellourdes.com. i took the 7 day plan that cost me aronud 50k a day only problem they charge 25k for guest, it's gf friendly no questions but they will charge you. its safe and perfect location many places during day time just walk around during the day and they will give you pamflets of the places prices go from 20k up quality from average to very good i was very surprised. i could see that some of the girls where **** 15-17 years old but there where up to 30. i prefer to stay in chapinero instead of the north because its cheaper and quality more or less the same except that there are less girls with surgery but they seem to be younger in chapinero next time i will try santa fe and tell you about my experiences.
I am looking for an apartment in the Chapinero area to rent for a week, must be fully furnished with cable TV , and what have you. it is for July 18-25.
Hi,
Do you know if any airline company is doing Colombia to San Marteen or Aruba?
Thanks
Hi,
Do you know if any airline company is doing Colombia to San Marteen or Aruba?
ThanksThisone will take care of you
http://www.aires.com.co/Website/Default.aspx
Kukulkan
This is my report of few days of mongering in Colombia, both in Bogotá and Cartagena. See the Cartagena section for this part of my trip.
1) Introduction
Originally, I was traveling there to meet 5 chicas I had contacted on internet. I posted a review on this aspect in the General report section, but I thought it would be useful to mention it at this stage it because it has limited my mongering capacity.
As it has been mentioned earlier in this forum, Suites Real 85 is really a good option as an hotel. Because I was stucked with the first chica, I could only go to the massage parlour called Abejita (means "small bee") quite easily by pretending I was going outside to change currencies. In fact, it was quite fun to go out twice a day to fuck like if I was having an affair and cheating with my first boring date! But she did not really care of seeing me going out from time to time, since there was so little to exchange between us!
2) Abejita massage parlour (www.abejita.com)
The exact address is Cra 14 #79-23 and not the one indicated on their website. In his report #513, Gringo Mojado has given accurate directions from the Suites Real hotel except that the sign "massajes" must have disappeared, so you really need to read this forum to know where it is situated or google it. Just climb the stairs.
I was there at around 3pm. There were about 8 girls ranging from average to stunning. I often chose the ones who welcomed me. Sandra had a blond hair, nice attitude, manmade breasts. For a probably overpriced donation (180k), I got a basic service, but I enjoyed it because she was beautiful and I had not had sex for a week or so. Mariana was a more "trigena" (means darker skin) type of girl from Cali. Really stunning slim body with a B+ cup magnificent natural breast. Her service was much better than Sandra's (more complicity, more conversation) although DFK was not on the menu. I could hardly resist more than few minutes before coming even though I had a shot yesterday. After a few hours recharge, I came back and chose Isabella. Not the cutest of all but her face and attitude were so nice that I could not resist. She was really caring. Again, I came after 5 minutes of slow motions even though I had one shot earlier. With that poor performance, any GF would consider me as a bad lover, for sure!
Jessica is the tallest of all, implants, nice personality and good service but still I prefer Mariana.
As a conclusion, the girls are quite eager to satisfy you and Abejita is a good option for an afternoon quickly but do not expect high level quality service and it is probably not the best value for money.
2) The "Forty Nine"
Indeed a must in Bogotá. It is quite a classy club located at carera 13 and calle 49, 10-15 minutes from the Suites Real hotel with a cab. When you arrive the staff quickly brings you upstairs in this huge labyrinth to introduce you some of their girls, of course not necessarily the best looking ones. I chose one of them as a temporary companion and asked to go downstairs. I offered her a 32,000 pesos drink plus 10,000 propina, and after having a close look at all, fixed my attention to a petite girl from Santa Marta called Paula, natural C-cup breasts. We did a couple of dances and went downstairs for our business. Damage was 200,000, room included, but she was really active, gave me lots of DFK and made sure that I would get satisfied. Like in Cartagena there were only few siliconed tits girls there, but there were plenty of average, pretty and few stunning ones. The whole place is extremely well organized. It is just pricey, but compared to the rate I get in my homeland, still worth the try.
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DoloresThomas
01-17-08, 17:30
Jan,
Abejita is really located in 14 and 84. This is the first and best one. You go down from Andino mall, straight on 82 until you reach carrera 14. Then you turn right, and on the second block you find the web page address. Just a sign, an open door, and stairs. Go upstairs and there you are. Receptionists are also working girls, some of them really beautiful.
The thing is they have several "associated" sites, the one in 79 being one of them. There is still one more, far north in Suba with 103.
Abejitas is, at least site wise, a regular massage parlour, a bit uncomofortable for my taste. But the girls are indeed astounding. At least some of them are in my high 8's and beyond. Had a great experience with brunette Ivonne, aka Camila.
You can also talk the girls into meeting outside after you know them. Longer, easier, in a decent bed.
Hello!
I am planning my sexvacation later this year in Bogota.
I am looking for a hotel close to the action in Santa Fe (Carrera 15-16 and Calle 23-24)
I have found a hotel, Charlie's Place Bed and Breakfast at Cra. 11A No. 106-82
Does anyone know how far it is from the Santa Fe action?
Charlies has a website and it is possible to book online wich is important for me.
Thanks,
Buttlover
Hi guys,
I've been here three days now, but I haven't posted yet because I have yet to participate in any P4P action. This is the first place that my preplanning internet dating really seems to be working. I had four girls "waiting for me, " one no-show, one I didn't like, and the other two are simply adorable. Now for a total of four days, two are plenty for me to juggle. I don't know how some of you guys handle more than that at one time!
Well, one, an absolute stunner, 31, dance teacher, I met last night and we were in bed together before midnight. It really takes a lot for me to want to actually sleep/spend the night with someone (I pay *****s to leave, not for sex), but I really enjoyed spending the whole night with her. The other one hasn't made it to my bed yet, but we're getting there and I have to tell you that I feel like a kid making up for what I didn't get in high school. I'm having a blast.
I'm staying at the Hotel Boheme, which I highly recommend. I read on this board that they charge a ridiculous amount for bringing a girl up, but I've never had anyone say a thing to me. I also walk in with a decently appearing woman and act like she's my wife coming upstairs with me, which I guess helps.
If yóu're interested in staying here first contact the reservations director directly, Hakeem Kahn, and just ask him for a special offer. It's amazing what you can get if you just ask. I'm getting a junior suite for what comes to about US$130 a night, a significant drop from their internet posted price of $170.
DoloresThomas
01-19-08, 00:54
Hello!
I am planning my sexvacation later this year in Bogota.
I am looking for a hotel close to the action in Santa Fe (Carrera 15-16 and Calle 23-24)
I have found a hotel, Charlie's Place Bed and Breakfast at Cra. 11A No. 106-82
Does anyone know how far it is from the Santa Fe action?
Charlies has a website and it is possible to book online wich is important for me.
Thanks,
ButtloverCharlie's is really far from Santa Fe. 90 blocks at least, which amounts to more than 6 miles. Better options are Tequendama, and San Francisco which is really close. Don't know if they are girl friendly though, or if they have a website. But 106 is really far, and taxis in Bogota are just not worth my trust. There has to be a better option.
Charlie's is really far from Santa Fe. 90 blocks at least, which amounts to more than 6 miles. Better options are Tequendama, and San Francisco which is really close. Don't know if they are girl friendly though, or if they have a website. But 106 is really far, and taxis in Bogota are just not worth my trust. There has to be a better option.Hello,
Is it really 6 miles? ,i have found Cr 11A on a map now, and it is 15blocks or 1.5mile from Santa Fe RLD, i hope it is the right CR11a!
Tequendama hotel is very expensive 225USD/ night
My buget is
Chicas:150USD/day
Hotel:maximum. 80USD/night
Charlies has the right price for me
Thanks,
BL
AddictedToWomen
01-19-08, 17:39
Charlie's is really far from Santa Fe. 90 blocks at least, which amounts to more than 6 miles. Better options are Tequendama, and San Francisco which is really close. Don't know if they are girl friendly though, or if they have a website. But 106 is really far, and taxis in Bogota are just not worth my trust. There has to be a better option.Crossing 100 is a real pita. If the price of the place is right, and you don't intend to travel at peak hours it could be worth it, but otherwise if you're gonna spend most of your day in S. Fe I'd look for something closer. Chapinero maybe?
This place is affiliated with a matrimonial service for gringos looking for latinas. I stayed there years ago and didn't like it. You couldn't bring women back to your room. It was a little loud, especially when parties were being held downstairs. There wasn't much of anything interesting in the neighborhood, like nightlife and good restaurants. The restaurant on premises sucked. I got a little annoyed with the other residents.- lots of American men who speak about 10 words of Spanish who came to Colombia to find their one true love in 10 days or less. The furnishings in the room were run down. It sticks in the back of my mind that it was cold.- maybe the heat wasn't working well in the room or no hot water.- it's been a long time so don't hold me to that. And the front desk was swamped catering to a large group of needy hotel guests, who had to get help with every little thing, so that when you need something simple sometimes it's hard to get.
Charlies has the right price for me
Thanks,
BL
DoloresThomas
01-19-08, 22:45
Bogota is a very easy city, addresswise. It is a grid. The mountains are the guide, forming a continuous line at the east end of the city. Paralell to the mountains (cerros), in descending order, are the carreras. The first one being "circunvalar" and then carrera 1, 2, and so forth. From the center north, perpendicular to those carreras, are the streets, or calles. A bit south from the original center (plaza de bolivar) is calle 1, and from then on, north, in ascendant order, 2, 3, and so forth, up to 200 or something like that. Nobody goes south (it would be interesting for someone to make this risky expedition) but in that direction streets start in "inverse" ascendant order also, with the suffix "Sur" (1 sur, 2 sur, and so on). Thus, when you find carrera 11 you find a long strip that goes north to south throughout the city. But since you are staying in 106 and Sta Fe is in 24, you would have to move in this line for the 6 miles I told you. Just like going straight on Broadway from Chinatown to Central Park. Far.
Chapinero is a good option, and I believe you can find a good cost / benefit relation for $80 in this area, much more central and with clean and decent hotels.
Bango Cheito
01-20-08, 05:24
It's at least 6 miles. we're talking 90 blocks here, and traffic on that particular route can get BRUTAL during rush hours. Just stay in Chapinero or Candelaria.
Charlie's is really far from Santa Fe. 90 blocks at least, which amounts to more than 6 miles. Better options are Tequendama, and San Francisco which is really close. Don't know if they are girl friendly though, or if they have a website. But 106 is really far, and taxis in Bogota are just not worth my trust. There has to be a better option.Thank you guys for the information !
One last question:
I have found a site were you can book Hotel San Francisco online
http://www.colombiacontact.com/en_San-Francisco-de-Asis.html
Address: Cra. 10. No. 23-63 - Bogota
Can someone confirm that this is in Santa Fe, close to RLD district.
Best Regards,
ButtLover
DoloresThomas
01-21-08, 03:35
Yes, San Francisco is really, really close to Santa Fe. Just a couple of blocks away. The prices are just right for your budget ($50 a night in a single room), and you won't have to pay cabs, so you'll have more chica money; it's so close you can just walk down. Be careful at night though. Walking alone late is not a very good idea in this area.
These places look fairly nice and not very expensive, near a lot of universities and about a 5 minute walk to Santa Fe. El Virrey should be no more than $40 usd with the other a little more expensive.
HOTEL EL VIRREY
Dirección CALLE 18 # 5 - 56
Teléfonos 3341150
Email info@hotelelvirrey.co
HOTEL DEL PARQUE SUPERIOR
Dirección CRA 5 23 34
Teléfonos 3363600
Email hotelparquesuperior@hotmail.com
GringoLoco2
01-22-08, 08:33
do they have internet access at this hotel?
how close is it to zona rosa?
i tried to stay in the chapinero area for a change. i usualy stay in the north i wanted to see how safe it was to stay in chapinero. i'd stayed in http://www.hotellourdes.com. i took the 7 day plan that cost me aronud 50k a day only problem they charge 25k for guest, it's gf friendly no questions but they will charge you. its safe and perfect location many places during day time just walk around during the day and they will give you pamflets of the places prices go from 20k up quality from average to very good i was very surprised. i could see that some of the girls where **** 15-17 years old but there where up to 30. i prefer to stay in chapinero instead of the north because its cheaper and quality more or less the same except that there are less girls with surgery but they seem to be younger in chapinero next time i will try santa fe and tell you about my experiences.
Came across this in the avianca january magazine... can't personally vouch for the places however the website looks good and the prices are reasonable!
http://www.viaggio.com.co/
SORRY__THIS SHOULD BE POSTED IN ST MARTIN
Day2,
I started with Sophia last sex for her on the island. I spent 4 hours with her as she did not want to work any more and had finished her contract. She said she was retiring. I was so turned on by the way she said incredible in such a sexy way. She wore me out.
Total sex sin condom.
We said our goodbyes and she asked did not ask or expect money, I gave her a few hundred as a gift for her new store. She called me her king and she treated me like one. We will definitely hook up in Medallin. .
Being exhausted I had to eat something. I entered the restaurant and had lunch with the wife of the owner of Carolinas and the Doctor that I had met at Defiance; I guess he does at least the 2 clubs medical inspections.
The doctor and I had met before at Defiance. Mi novia from Colombia “C” was getting sick from the whiskey that she had to get the clients to buy her or face a fine. We spoke at that time and he wrote her a note so she would not have to drink. He said then that “C” was an extremely wonderful person. When “C” and I left the doctor I said he was a very nice man she agreed that he was very kind to her. She also said he said she had an amazing pussi. Yeah ok.
Back in the present as soon I started talking to the doctor he asked how “C” is by name.
I was surprised he remembered her. I said that she was back in Bogotá and had retired. He asked if I had spoken to her. I told him that she is my novia and I visited her regularly. He said to me that I was a very luck man as she was a wonderful person and had the most incredible pussi he had ever seen. I don’t know how you can tell how great a woman’s pussi is by looking at it but I must say she has the best one I have ever been in.
Nice to have my opinion verified. Sophia had worn me out I had to go back to the boat to rest.
I went to Defiance in the early evening in search of the elusive Daisy. Upon entering I immediately ran into Lina who jumped in my lap and gave me a huge hug and a kiss. I apologized and said I was a dog and wanted another woman tonight. She took that surprisingly well and I headed off. I then went down the stairs to room 210 again looking for Daisy. The light was on and I knocked on the door lightly and she came to the door. Finally I encountered Daisy gave her a small pair of gold earrings for another ISG member Lovin Chicas. We sat on the bed and talked for quite a while. She has a very tranquil personality. We then got down to business she has some very good moves and I would do her again but she is not a 10 on my list in bed. But again it all has to do with chemistry. Nice face but not beautiful. We did get along well and I spent about 2 hours with her..
Back to Carolinas I entered restaurant and Alexa was there I noticed her golden eyes and said they look like the eyes of a tiger, she said the Bengal tiger was the most beautiful animal in the world BINGO!!! She was very happy with that . She wanted me to go with her but I said tomorrow. that was a great ice breaker.I said I would see her tomorrow.
6 hours total sex for the day good night Eileen.
More to follow.
Mel
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Latino Fucker
01-30-08, 05:19
I will be in Bogota for a wedding the wekend before Easter. WAs wondering what is the p4p situation the week of Holy Week. Is it similar to the week leading to Christmas where there is a lack of ladies because they all go back to thier hometowns?
I will be in Bogota for a wedding the wekend before Easter. WAs wondering what is the p4p situation the week of Holy Week. Is it similar to the week leading to Christmas where there is a lack of ladies because they all go back to thier hometowns?Hey amigo,
You may want to change your handle to Latina F. Unless of course you like the latinos.
AddictedToWomen
01-30-08, 23:04
I will be in Bogota for a wedding the wekend before Easter. WAs wondering what is the p4p situation the week of Holy Week. Is it similar to the week leading to Christmas where there is a lack of ladies because they all go back to thier hometowns?IIRC its pretty dead.
Hey Guys,
I'm planning a trip this upcoming spring to Bogota for about 2-3 days before heading to Rio, and was wondering the best place for the most trip information. I looked back over the past years, but only got a little info. I'm going to Bogota to meet up with a girl I had a class with. While her family has invited me to stay with them, I feel I'm gonna need a little privacy if you know what I mean. I just have a few basic questions.
1. Apt. or Hotel?
2. Paper of Plastic?
3. Boxers or Briefs?
Thanks,
ryjer
Hi,
I like the dann carleton hotel on 103 street.
A little distance from the zona rosa. Not to far from park 93. Nice mongering area for non pros.
Mel
I am returning after a long absence to Bogota for a week before heading back to Cali. Could anyone update me on casas, the going rate, etc.
Thanks in advance
Just Learning
02-11-08, 15:14
Is Dann Carlton Bogota Chica friendly. I know the Casa Dann Carlton does not allow unregistered guests after 9 pm (not even for an extra charge)
Hi,
I like the Dann Carleton Hotel on 103 street.
A little distance from the zona rosa. Not to far from park 93. Nice mongering area for non pros.
Mel
Thanks to World Travel 69 for great list and other posters for good info on Bogota.
I checked out several places during my 5 day trip, here is a short first report:
I would strongly recommend Santa Fe Red Light District: 10 stripclubs/brothels within walking distance.
I would not bother with any other area if you are only here for a couple of days.
Good security: lots of people on streets and several police officers and private security guards payed by the higher-end strip clubs. I am really gringo looking, had no problems, felt safe even late at night.
No entrance fees at any place.
2000-3500 or USD 1-2 for a local beer.
Good looking girls, GREAT value: 5-9s. most cost 30,000-60,000 for half hour in house. thats USD15-30 for some great looking, very sexy girls.
Big opportunity to talk/touch girls before fucking: many teases you, rub your cock, let you rub your cock against her ass, feel tits, kiss you before doing the deal, take opportunity of this!! :-)
sHOWS: many places have OK stripshows: full nudity, I even saw two shows where the girls sucked a guy from audience at stage, this happens at weekend nights at 12 I think.
How to get here: Just take a cab to any of the more famous strip clubs/brothels like El Castillo or La Piscina, most taxi drivers know them even without address. When you are there, all places are within walking distance/3 blocks
If you want some map references then: Carreras 13A and 13 - Calle 22/Avenida Caracas (close to TransMilenio bus station)
What club is best: I vistited most of the recommended places at this forum, but the clubs that I really enjoyed where not mentioned, I will go again tonight and get the exact names as I dont remember, they were all on the same street as La Paisa, I think Carrera 16:
These clubs were all really full of girls and guys....slightly lower objective quality compared to la piscina etc but they were more fun, sexy, horny and they cost less: 30-50K.
I am amazed that bogota dont get more monering travellers? Security seems to be OK/good now, I feel much safer here than in Rio.
Top end girls (8.5-10s) are lacking (they are probably in cartagena, panama city etc) but if you want 7-8s or even 9s for much cheaper than Cartagena, Panama City, Rio etc, come here! :-)
For the same experience/quality
Rio: USD90
Panama City: USD100
Cartagena: USD75
Bogota USD35
Bogota has a livelly red light district where you can have fun before you fuck, playing with the girls, drinking. I love this place!
I also love the fact that 97% of all Colombian chicas are totally shaved! When I was in Rio most had some hair left/landing strip. But I prefer it totally shaved / waxed. So I love Colombianas!
More detailed reporting to follow.
Thanks Wild, I will be on the ground soon for the first leg of my three month tour. Any and all photos and info is greatly appreciated. It was summer 2004 since I was last in Bogota. And that was for only two nights.
I had no problem bringing in chicas when I was staying at the hotel. I stayed there for a total of 4 weeks on 3 separate trips. I now have an apartment. The clerk at the front desk speaks great english tall bald headed guy. Just clear your plans with him. They will charge you 4000 pesos for additional security per guest per night. They only want to see her cedula. No problems for me. Just get pre authorized before leaving for the night. You can also get a pass to go to the other dann carleton on 93? Street to use their spa, gym, sauna, massage. And swimming pool. , there is also a small restaurant at the pool, the chicas really loved this.
Mel
I went to La Piscina this afternoon here in Bogota. I talked to a stunner who had only been there for a short time. She said she lived three hours a way, and planned on working for only a short time to raise some travel and living expense money before joining two of her friends from her home town who have found the "big Money" in Medellin. She said the tourists there, unlike here in Bogota or Cali, are paying mucho! Go figure! Wild was right on with his report here. Good old 55 bucks (100k) for TLN with a very nice 19yo spinner with no kids! Pictures, of course, to follow as soon as I move to my next city. I don't want any surprises! Some of you already have the pics in your email.
Gary Groundwork
02-18-08, 04:33
I went to La Piscina this afternoon here in Bogota. I talked to a stunner who had only been there for a short time. She said she lived three hours a way, and planned on working for only a short time to raise some travel and living expense money before joining two of her friends from her home town who have found the "big Money" in Medellin. She said the tourists there, unlike here in Bogota or Cali, are paying mucho! Go figure! Wild was right on with his report here. Good old 55 bucks (100k) for TLN with a very nice 19yo spinner with no kids! Pictures, of course, to follow as soon as I move to my next city. I don't want any surprises! Some of you already have the pics in your email.Yep this is spot on. Mongering is way better/cheaper in Bogota and Cali. Too many suckers pay way too much and get sucked in and spend too much money on the girls in Medellin.
The list of Casas, nightclubs, etc found on this site is great. But it does seem a little overwhelming when you try to formulate your plan of attack. I have tried to find a map here that I could use as a guide to post for all of you. But they are all overwhelming as well. I think the best thing I can do is to create a map from scratch. For example the Santa Fe red light district is loaded with places in three square blocks. If you could simply tell a cab to take you to La Piscina for example, then pull out my pocket map that would show you where the others are located by point of reference instead of all these calle's and Carrera's, I think it would make many more comfortable. Although this list was compiled along time ago, it is amazingly accurate. But I am going to dramatically simplify it. And alot of the prices are too high, yes too high!
Again, I want to thank the author of this list. He did a ton of work to compile it. In regards to Bogota Mongering, I have never seen anything like the "Red Light District" Here. Location after location is loaded with hot talent. And soo freakin cheap!
This is without a doubt, the "Bangkok", of this Hemisphere.
I only have four days left here, and I have about 45 on my to do list!
Latino Fucker
02-20-08, 04:07
If you could simply tell a cab to take you to La Piscina for example, then pull out my pocket map that would show you where the others are located by point of reference instead of all these calle's and Carrera's, I think it would make many more comfortable.Would have to say that would on the top of my list of things not to do in zona rosa Santa Fe.
I am sitting here in Bogotá watching reruns of Barnaby Jones in Spanish, with a vanilla iced Dunkin Donut in one hand, and a smile on my face. I am going to be much more in detail about the night than I normally am to help you get a grasp on the scene here. Those who know me know that I never ramble like this. I apologize now for that. But I did use spell check for a change. I did not pay extra, just a regular "john" who popped in. I could not sleep, and the thought of going second to the likes of LaJazz, I decided to be punctual. I arrived at El Castillo, (which seems to have the highest quality talent in Santa Fe area (red light district), at about 7:45. I ordered a beer and within a few minutes Natty arrived at the bar and presented me with a kiss on the cheek. I told her I was sorry for acting a crazy last night and I would like to have a drink with her. She ordered a red bull. We sat for the rest of my beer, her holding my hand and talked. I felt a small urge from my V, which I had popped in the cab, so I gave her 130, 000 and said lets go. She said, oh no, you bought me a red bull so the room is only 20, 000 for an hour, and she handed me back 10, 000. Pinch me please! Arriving upstairs to a decent room with bath, TV music, a decent bed and one fuckin towel! Now I will cut to the chase, after nice foreplay, and very nice French kissing I ate her out. I felt rushed though and did not want to spend too much time. I did get her close, but no cigar. She then proceeded to a very nice BBBJ. I had to stop her, and looked at my phone. She said don't worry, the girl likes me and will give us an hour and a half! Pinch me please!
We fucked in every position imaginable and she loved doggie, we seemed to keep going back to it. Then she asks me if I minded if she had an orgasm now! Pinch me again! I said si, si, ahora! She got out of the bed went over to her backpack and I thought to myself, I guess she wants a dildo. But no, she pulled out a pair of honest to goodness nipple clamps. She put them on and tightened them till tears formed in her eyes, then she climbed on top of me and fucked the living hell out of me. I cannot remember when a girl has fucked me sooo hard. She came in about two minutes and I was right behind her. And I am not one to normally pull the trigger in the condom. I ask her for a photo with the nipple clamps and she said no nudity at all. I did get some pictures however. Some of you got them in your email, others will have to wait until I leave Bogotá, Sorry for that, but they are coming.
We returned downstairs to what looked like the Playboy Mansion. I could spend a full week fucking girls just here. On the way out she took my number. She said if you come back to see me, I will pay for the room! Pinch me again!
MY EXPENSES FOR THE NIGHT!!
Taxi there: 3,000
My beer: 4,000
Her red bull: 8,000
1.5 hours with her: 100,000
The room: 10,000
Tip for the room girl: 5,000
Taxi back: 4,000 (guy was a thief, 2 fuckin dollars)
Total expenditure: 134,000 pesos (at almost 1900 to 1) $70.53 (And two Donuts)
When you see the photos, I think all will agree, it was a very economical evening!!
I can’t wait for Tomorrow Night! So I won’t, it’s off to the “District” at Noon.
Fantasy, the one and only.
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Hi guys,
Good to be here. I've really enjoyed reading the reports, thanks. I'm new to Bogota and find it really overwelming to get around. The list seems great but is also overwelming. I only have a little time here so can't really go experimenting and am afraid to roam around too much as I have been warned it is dangerouse.
Can anyone make recomondations similer to what one can find in the buenos aires forum as to 4 or 5 top places to visit if you only have a short time in Bogota? For example in Buenos Aries I was recomended to go to Madahos, la Lopez, Blacks, Coco and a few others. I checked out quite a bit places in Buenos Aries and concure that thos would be my top recomondationd for a short time visit.
So, what would be 4 or 5 of the best places to visit for some p4p?
Also, where would be the best area to look around? I feel safest in zona rosa, but this last report about el castillo sounds great but I'm not sure how safe it is to walk around there.
Your help is appriciated.
I can relate to your dilemma. Tonight, (wed) I went out a bit later just to get a feel for the danger factor. Again I took a taxi to El Castillo about 9:45. I went in, had a beer and decided I wanted to walk around a bit. Outside were several military on every corner. I ask one what he thought about me walking around the area at this time alone. He told me that it would be safe in the two block area (which is well lit, and heavily patrolled. This meant I had access to about 8 good size niteclubs, all loaded with women. Lets remember where we are Bogota, Colombia!
That being said, I feel confident if you stay sober and put your safety first and foremost, that you can enjoy yourself here, even alone. I did visit Zona Rosa, Parque 93 and other areas, which were very nice, but for a short stay, it's Santa Fe, all the way!
The main thing to remember is never flag a cab at night. This is the biggest danger in Bogota right now, so I am told by the Tourist Police. They pick you up and take you to a planned intersection where two guys jump in and rob you. In many instances they take you to an atm at gun point and force you to get all you can for them. All you have to do is have the establishment you are in, call a secure cab for you. Even when I went to dinner at TGI Fridays in Parque 93, when I finished dinner I ask the hostess if the cabs parked out front were safe. She replied, absolutly not, and called one for me. If you guys only remember one thing about my posts here in Bogota, Remember not to jump in a passing cab at night, please!
I am happy to report that a 5'10" blonde Colombiana with one smokin body is now 70, 000 pesos richer! And it only took her one hour!
Fantasy. The one and only, reporting Live!
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Fantasy,
Thanks a lot for your advice. I will follow your advice. Ill check it out and report soon.So basically the quantity and quality is better in Santa Fe then in Zona Rosa?
Thanks again
One other quick question:
When is the best time to visit these places at Santa Fe?
When is there the best selction and best vibe?
Fantasy,
Thanks a lot for your advice. I will follow your advice. Ill check it out and report soon.So basically the quantity and quality is better in Santa Fe then in Zona Rosa?
Thanks againZona Rosa is not a Red Light District, it's the main nightlife district of Bogota for the higher class.
Best time to visit Santa Fe is during nighttime, no matter which day of the week. There is action during the day, but it's slow.
After showing up at just before 8 pm and just before 10, the selection was much bigger early, with far fewer guys in the clubs. Also, who ever heard of the second and third men on the moon! Be the first! If I were you, I would plan on 8pm.
Regulr Travlr
02-21-08, 20:31
Great set of reports. You have done an excellent job on your first trip there, and solo at that. You even earned two Reports of Distinction nominations. Clearly a first for you. You have hit some real high quality stuff! Thanks for the private emails.
I appreciate your tip on the taxi situation. That is something I would not have thought of. I am very comfortable just grabbing a taxi anywhere in Medellin.
Good advice to Latino F**cker. Apparently he does not know who he is dealing with!
Zona Rosa is not a Red Light District, it's the main nightlife district of Bogota for the higher class.
Best time to visit Santa Fe is during nighttime, no matter which day of the week. There is action during the day, but it's slow.But "night time" may be too vague of an answer for this area. In my Opinion, which really is worth nothing to anyone, Getting there before 9pm is a must. Especially if you want fairly "fresh meat". Most every place offers 20 minute sessions in house. Not for me, but I guess it opens up affordability to more locals. Most of these girls just are not as much fun after a half dozen 20 minute sessions. To each is own, but I like being first in, first out (for that given night anyway). I would imagine their are alot of others who would rather drink alot, and come in late at night. Good luck to these guys!! To each his own.
As far as Latino F goes, It just annoys me when someone who never supplies info has all the answers! I would imagine what he/she meant that looking at a map in a war zone is not wise. But most experienced mongers know that a pocket map is one you get aquainted with on the plane, and if your memory fails, you take a discreet look at it in the palm of your hand. It sure beats looking at house numbers or asking your would be attacker for directions.
Enough said, I take here and I try to give back. More than I can say for alot of others!
And by the way, keep those sweet ass photos from medellin coming, I will now and forever refer to you as Medellin Man!
Gary Groundwork
02-22-08, 03:58
The main thing to remember is never flag a cab at night. This is the biggest danger in Bogota right now, so I am told by the Tourist Police. They pick you up and take you to a planned intersection where two guys jump in and rob you. In many instances they take you to an atm at gun point and force you to get all you can for them. All you have to do is have the establishment you are in, call a secure cab for you. Even when I went to dinner at TGI Fridays in Parque 93, when I finished dinner I ask the hostess if the cabs parked out front were safe. She replied, absolutly not, and called one for me. If you guys only remember one thing about my posts here in Bogota, Remember not to jump in a passing cab at night, please!I know 3 blokes that this has happened to in the last 2/3 years.
Good advice bro.
Latino Fucker
02-23-08, 03:00
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Latino Fucker
02-23-08, 03:24
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Cream on Top
02-23-08, 09:06
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I ask one what he thought about me walking around the area at this time alone. He told me that it would be safe in the two block area (which is well lit, and heavily patrolled.
That being said, I feel confident if you stay sober and put your safety first and foremost, that you can enjoy yourself here, even alone. I totally agree with fantasy on the safety, I spent 4 nights by myself, totally gringo looking, but confident and walking like I knew where I was going and I felt safe.
Can anyone make recomondations similer to what one can find in the buenos aires forum as to 4 or 5 top places to visit.... but this last report about el castillo sounds great but I'm not sure how safe it is to walk around there.
Your help is appriciated.I would go for santa fe red light district, take a cab to el castillo, walk around in that area, try piscina and some of the other clubs as there are all withing 1-3 minute walking distance and they have no cover you can just go in and check out the talent and just go to the next club if you don't like.
One other quick question:
When is the best time to visit these places at Santa Fe?
When is there the best selction and best vibe?Best Selection: 8-10PM
Best Vibe: 11-12PM on weekends (real party feeling)
In regards to Bogota Mongering, I have never seen anything like the "Red Light District" Here. Location after location is loaded with hot talent. And soo freakin cheap!
This is without a doubt, the "Bangkok", of this Hemisphere.TOTALL AGREE with Fantasy, I have been to Rio, Buenos Aires, Bangkok, Madrid, Barcelona, Panama City Germany; which all gets a lot of attention......and Bogotas red light district is the best mongering area in my oppinion. the combination of:
Good looking, sexy girls
Girls that ENJOY sex
Low cost (of clubs, drinks, girls and the city in general)
Number of clubs in one area
Makes it the winner for me
Can someone with a knowledge of Bogota can tell me where the area:
Forests Of San Carlos / Bosques de San Carlos
is located & what the area is like in safety & attractions etc.
Many Thanks,
Liathain
Where is a good place to wait for someone inside the airport. I mean some kinda place where everyone regonizes without any complications? That is the international wing.
Thanks in advance
AddictedToWomen
02-25-08, 21:38
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In other words, if you don't have something positive to say, then please don't post.Thanks!Hi Jackson,
I don't know what was deleted here, but it would be dishonest and even downright dangerous to not allow folks to point out that Bogota is not the safest city in the world, and that Santa Fe is not the safest part of that city. Not saying "don't go" -- though I would never go there unescorted -- but for god's sake keep your wits about ya.
AddictedToWomen
02-25-08, 22:22
Where is a good place to wait for someone inside the airport. I mean some kinda place where everyone regonizes without any complications? That is the international wing.
Thanks in advanceThere's no arrival's hall: just a mass of folks waiting outside. Not a great place to meet, but the only option if the arivee has a lot of luggage. If not, you could wait upstairs in departures in the restaurant area. There's a MuckDs there, though respect your body and wait on the tables outside it and eat somewhere else: the Asian place is always a good bet for good, cheap food.
Where is a good place to wait for someone inside the airport. I mean some kinda place where everyone regonizes without any complications? That is the international wing.
Thanks in advanceThe best airport meeting spot would be just as you come out of the El Dorado International Arrivals Terminal. You will have cleared customs & immigration and then you go past the money changing area. These is a glass wall of windows you pass through and you are now directly outside the terminal where everyone waits for those who are clearing International Arrivals. I have met up with a friend there previously.
It is the first place that the arriving passenger will actually pass out of the terminal and you will have the chance to meet up with someone. From there you can catch a taxi to town or to the domestic terminal: Puente Aereo Terminal.
Meeting point at Bogota El Dorado airport.
Maybe the taxi dispatch booth. It's just after you clear baggage claim. It's outside, which could be inconvenient if it's cold or raining. But it's a surefire place to meet.
The alternative is to pick a particular shop inside the terminal (eg in front of the Juan Valdez cafe). The only problem is that sometimes they check tickets and your friend(s) may not be permitted inside the terminal. It would probably be OK.. just something to keep in mind.
Bango Cheito
02-26-08, 10:15
The cabs thing IS a real concern, but most of the time that sort of thing happens in the rich areas, the Zona Rosa and the Parque 93 areas specifically, and in general between Circunvalar and Autopista Norte and 72 to 100 streets.
I'd think it would be common sense NOT to take a cab just waiting outside a club anywhere on planet Earth. Bogota is not the safest NOR the most dangerous city that exists, it's somewhere in the middle IMO.
There's no arrival's hall: just a mass of folks waiting outside. Not a great place to meet, but the only option if the arivee has a lot of luggage. If not, you could wait upstairs in departures in the restaurant area. There's a MuckDs there, though respect your body and wait on the tables outside it and eat somewhere else: the Asian place is always a good bet for good, cheap food.Thanks Addicted, this is a great idea.
I will go upstairs and wait at McD's.
Bango Cheito
02-26-08, 18:56
Forget McDonalds. Go wait at the El Corral and treat yourself to the best hamburger EVER while you're at it!
Any Gyms like Bally's type you could join in Bogota for a week or two? Has to have a swimming pool, whirlpool and work out area. And what do they charge for a membership? Week? Month? Preferably in Chapinero alto area, if not, anywhere near by
Thanks guys
AddictedToWomen
02-27-08, 19:32
Forget McDonalds. Go wait at the El Corral and treat yourself to the best hamburger EVER while you're at it!Is there an El Corral in El Dorado now?
AddictedToWomen
02-27-08, 19:37
Any Gyms like Bally's type you could join in Bogota for a week or two? Has to have a swimming pool, whirlpool and work out area. And what do they charge for a membership? Week? Month? Preferably in Chapinero alto area, if not, anywhere near by
Thanks guysThere's one on K7 in Chapinero, maybe about 70? Just up from the supermarket iirc. Another big one on K15 at about 110.
I think they do "short time" ( :) ), but no idea of the price.
Livefastdiehard
02-29-08, 03:12
I arrive in Bogota at 9:30pm on Tusday and have 12 hours before I take my flight back to Newark for 10 am Wednesday. It will b my first time in Bogota..should I take the cab straight to Sante Fe and use him as my guide?
There will be any hotels around walkable distanc to the nightclubs right? If so, just name one so I can tell the cab to take me there.
Also, how much should I pay the cab to guide me in Bogota so I can stay safe?
Its worth the 7 hour flight just to party hard for a night right?
The main thing to remember is never flag a cab at night. All you have to do is have the establishment you are in, call a secure cab for you. Fantasy,
Will they call one for you at el Castillo?
Nice reports BTW!
I arrive in Bogota at 9:30pm on Tusday and have 12 hours before I take my flight back to Newark for 10 am Wednesday. It will b my first time in Bogota..should I take the cab straight to Sante Fe and use him as my guide?
There will be any hotels around walkable distanc to the nightclubs right? If so, just name one so I can tell the cab to take me there.
Also, how much should I pay the cab to guide me in Bogota so I can stay safe?
Its worth the 7 hour flight just to party hard for a night right?No, it's a poor idea.
By the time you clear passport control and arrive in the city, it'll be 11pm. You only have a couple of good hours until the scene tails off.
Santa Fe is a dangerous spot. You may have to ask a series of cab drivers before you get one that will keep you company. The going rate for a cab per hour is 20k or a bit less.
There are hotels in that immediate area, but I doubt they'll meet you expectations. They may or may not have hot water.
Bango Cheito
02-29-08, 19:02
Is there an El Corral in El Dorado now?Yes.
Viajero... google "bodytech" and maybe "bogota" with it. I posted a link but it got zapped.
I'm not the right guy to answer most of your questions, but I'll say Hotel San Francisco seems to be mentioned the most as a decent hotel near the Santa Fe action.
Are you flying from Newark to Bogota just for one night of mongering? If yes, then I admire your effort, but aren't you concerned any flight delay will really screw things-up.? It really doesn't seem worth the effort for just one night in Bogota IMHO.
I have a general Bogota question. Can anyone compare the scene in Bogota to Cali and Medellin in terms of cost, quality, and quantity of action? I've been to Cali and Medellin numerous times, but never Bogota. I think I'm done with Medellin and would like to replace it with Bogota.
Fellas,
Hey, I'm looking to make a return trip to Bogota (search my last report in June/July timeframe) after sampling Panama City and Dom Rep. Looking at the May-June time frame for 10-14 days. Was planning to stay in Zona Rosa as last time, but am considering Santa Fe as it seems to have made a resurgence in recommendations on this board. As a novice spanish speaker though, should I still stay in Zona Rosa and just taxi out to Santa Fe district to hobby?
Also, I noticed that the exchange rate is at about 1800pesos/dollar. That is about 200 pesos different than last year at the same time I'm planning to travel. Have regular travelers felt that difference in your hobbying? I definitely don't want to pay more than 150k for a TLN, but, I'm opening up more to a short time on the premises as an cheaper option.
I was trying to hold out for Medellin with some of my friends, but they wussed out and I don't want to go alone, plus it seems a little more overpriced.
Looking forward to words of wisdom to aid in my planning. BTW, I looked at this forum all the way back to September, so, I have a good idea of what's been said, which has been really helpful.
Rodeo
Yes.
Viajero... google "bodytech" and maybe "bogota" with it. I posted a link but it got zapped.Thanks Bango but Bodytech is just for working out. It has no pool or whirlpool
Paul Frankl
03-02-08, 18:16
Is there anyone out there that can connect me with a reliable driver during my stay in Bogota. I am meeting some new chicas met over the internet and want to be sure that I am in control of where we are going at all times. Please PM if possible as well.
Thank you!
Gary Groundwork
03-02-08, 19:57
I have a general Bogota question. Can anyone compare the scene in Bogota to Cali and Medellin in terms of cost, quality, and quantity of action? I've been to Cali and Medellin numerous times, but never Bogota. I think I'm done with Medellin and would like to replace it with Bogota.IMO Bogota is by far the best for mongering...quantity, quality and prices. Cali is maybe the cheapest. Medellin is by far the most expensive and overated IMO.
i arrive in bogota at 9:30pm on tusday and have 12 hours before i take my flight back to newark for 10 am wednesday. it will b my first time in bogota..should i take the cab straight to sante fe and use him as my guide?
there will be any hotels around walkable distanc to the nightclubs right? if so, just name one so i can tell the cab to take me there.
also, how much should i pay the cab to guide me in bogota so i can stay safe?
its worth the 7 hour flight just to party hard for a night right?damn, that's pretty crazy! also remember you've got to be back at the airport no later than 8 am, the airport is busy in the morning, and security might check you out more carefully both in bogota and newark when they see you were in the country only one short night. if they ask you why, what will you tell them? :)
you might not have to pay for a night at a hotel. you only need to bring a small carry-on with a change of clothing and some toiletries, that will also help speed things up when airport security checks you inside out, lol! just sleep as much as you can on the plane both ways, session and break night in the clubs.
some places may close early but i remember walking out of "la forty-nine" (on calle 49 and carrera 13) around 5:30 am and it was still going strong although this was a saturday morning not a wednesday.
worst case scenario (the clubs close early) take a girl out to a love motel, there's one near the airport called coconito. look in the bogota lists section for info on it. there should be some love motels in the sante fe area but i don't know specific ones. another web site i know mentioned hotel el dorado on calle 15 and carrera 4 as a place you can rent rooms by the hour in addition to nightly; that's in the candelaria neighborhood just south of santa fe, although in your case, if you're going to go love motel, i think your best bet is the one closest to the airport for obvious reasons.
just one disclaimer, i haven't been to these motels so i can't honestly vouch for them. call them in advance if you can speak spanish. in my trip to bog, i stayed at suites real 85 (very guest-friendly) for almost a week but that's not really a love motel, although one night my neighbor had his action going at the same time i was! :)
can't speak for the santa fe area, but if you go to "la forty-nine" they will take care of you there, although that spot is more expensive. the security guys/hosts are looking for tips but the one that helped me seemed like a decent fellow, i think his name was wilson; but pretty much any of those guys working there will assist you, escort you to an atm, etc.; just give them a 20k tip at the end of the night.
what's nice is the place has a little of everything. i remember having a great colombian style ajiaco soup there at 3 in the morning with my buddy, they have a small kitchen working all night; in-house rooms are the usual, just a bed and a cold shower.
don't bring more than one credit card with you just in case (god forbid) you end up in a paseo millonario. when you walk out of luggage claim at el dorado airport, go upstairs to where the atms are and take out 400-500k, that should be more than enough for the night. again, can't speak for other venues but you can use your credit card for everything at "la forty-nine" although the girls prefer cash of course.
my advice would be go to forty-nine instead of santa fe, session with a girl or two and if you like one, take her out to coconito although you'll have to pay a hefty multa. there are two "forty-nine" clubs right next to each other. the one i went to is the first one as you walk south on carrera 13, not the second door a few yards further.
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Its worth the 7 hour flight just to party hard for a night right?You must be kidding? :-) I have been raving about Bogota but you must be crazy to spend that money and time that for only one night.
In total you would spend over 25 hours of your time in transit and lotsa $$ for the ticket.
AddictedToWomen
03-03-08, 23:00
Just one disclaimer, I haven't been to these motels so I can't honestly vouch for them. I use them all the time, around the airport, up the autopista, and up near Santa Barbara. The quality varies, but they're all good.
FFS, don't stay in Santa Fe. You gotta death wish or something? Why not just head to the Mansion and blow your wad on some overpriced pussy but in a safe classy place. If you're really gonna pay all that money to get there a few more k on pussy won't even be noticed.
AddictedToWomen
03-03-08, 23:03
Thanks Bango but Bodytech is just for working out. It has no pool or whirlpoolI don't do gyms, but I think the one on k18 at 112, or thereabouts might have. A swimming pool might be really pushing it though. Hotel maybe?
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