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Tiger Guy X2
12-23-23, 22:42
In your varied experiences, do Colombian pesos or US dollars work better when seeking out entertainment and ladies?Colombian Pesos. Colombia is far enough from the USA and doesn't have the USA presence like a Tijuana or Costa Rica so everything is in local Pesos. If you see someone trying to quote you in US dollars in Colombia you're probably about to get ripped off paying a super high gringo rates.
Bango Cheito
12-24-23, 01:29
Colombian Pesos. Colombia is far enough from the USA and doesn't have the USA presence like a Tijuana or Costa Rica so everything is in local Pesos. If you see someone trying to quote you in US dollars in Colombia you're probably about to get ripped off paying a super high gringo rates.Absolutely this. I only ever charge anything in USD in Colombia if I'm trying to make myself seem important / highball them.
Absolutely this. I only ever charge anything in USD in Colombia if I'm trying to make myself seem important / highball them.Thanks for all the tips. I've been a few places around the globe that prefer US dollars so I wanted to check.
JohnnyWishBone
12-25-23, 01:54
Absolutely this. I only ever charge anything in USD in Colombia if I'm trying to make myself seem important / highball them.Only pay in pesos. Don't flash dollars around because the price is getting driven up; Cartagena has been ruined because of this. And punters need to remember that girls will always high-ball you at the start of negotiations.
So there is a guy who came down here on the 20th and has been banging girls from Escort sites every night-- Celestina I think he has been using-- he had a threesome last night.
He has been here before and made some arrangements before his arrival.
I walked around Santa Fe yesterday and it was not bad-- I myself have been with some of my steady girls.
LatinaLover#1
12-25-23, 19:22
But with the exception of SF I think its best to use USD. This year I only had 5 trips to Colombia, all to Bog. The last 2 trips were is Sept. And Dec. Due to the many rookie guys going to Bogota this year I have seen a marked increase the amount the girls are asking of 500,600 cop and higher and I've seen an increase of them mentioning time limits too, something I never ran into before in Bog.
So by the time you change USD at the current exchange rate of 3,900 and you add in the vig of some 2000 per dollar your accepting 3700. And less if you add in the ATM charge so do the math how much your paying in cop 400,000 500,000 and even 600,000 and up, a crisp $100 bill is cheaper than pesos and some of these girls are not rocket scientist so, a US bill impressed them more that pesos. As stated above this is not recommended for SF and other casas but for chippers and non pros I recommend going back to USD, until the exchange rate goes back up.
Thanks for all the tips. I've been a few places around the globe that prefer US dollars so I wanted to check.They may prefer the US dollar where there are restrictions on currency exchange and they get more with US dollars than the official exchange rate indicates. But that is not the case in Colombia. So no, there is no advantage to taking foreign currency and having to get it exchanged versus just getting paid in your own currency. Colombia's currency trades freely on the world market so anyone taking dollars is either trying to beat you on the exchange rate and take advantage of your ignorance, or perhaps just trying to make it easier for you to pay them to get the money if you don't have pesos. But you're not likely to get any deals.
But with the exception of SF I think its best to use USD. This year I only had 5 trips to Colombia, all to Bog. The last 2 trips were is Sept. And Dec. Due to the many rookie guys going to Bogota this year I have seen a marked increase the amount the girls are asking of 500,600 cop and higher and I've seen an increase of them mentioning time limits too, something I never ran into before in Bog.
So by the time you change USD at the current exchange rate of 3,900 and you add in the vig of some 2000 per dollar your accepting 3700. And less if you add in the ATM charge so do the math how much your paying in cop 400,000 500,000 and even 600,000 and up, a crisp $100 bill is cheaper than pesos and some of these girls are not rocket scientist so, a US bill impressed them more that pesos. As stated above this is not recommended for SF and other casas but for chippers and non pros I recommend going back to USD, until the exchange rate goes back up.Alot of bad advice being given here on ISG. First of all if you are paying 500 k or 600 k then you are part of the problem.
These girls are only getting away with this shit because there are guys like you who are paying it. If you go back in time just a few years ago before the pandemic and before all the YouTube videos and subsequent passport bros and Makin' it rain motherfuxkers started showing up, (see recent video posted in Cartagena thread) none of these women were charging more than 200 k.
You coming down here paying 500 k or 600 k or even a "crisp $100 usd note" you are just enabling these women to rip you off. If we all got on the same page and all agreed to only pay 150 mil, then they would have to accept that price or they would starve. And I guarantee you that the local rolos are not paying these outrageous prices. $150 mil Is a generous amount for outcall and in the barrios with the locals that is more in line with the real prices, not your inflated gringo prices you quote that are fucking up the market.
LatinaLover#1
12-26-23, 12:01
Alot of bad advice being given here on ISG. First of all if you are paying 500 k or 600 k then you are part of the problem.
These girls are only getting away with this shit because there are guys like you who are paying it. If you go back in time just a few years ago before the pandemic and before all the YouTube videos and subsequent passport bros and Makin' it rain motherfuxkers started showing up, (see recent video posted in Cartagena thread) none of these women were charging more than 200 k.
You coming down here paying 500 k or 600 k or even a "crisp $100 usd note" you are just enabling these women to rip you off. If we all got on the same page and all agreed to only pay 150 mil, then they would have to accept that price or they would starve. And I guarantee you that the local rolos are not paying these outrageous prices. $150 mil Is a generous amount for outcall and in the barrios with the locals that is more in line with the real prices, not your inflated gringo prices you quote that are fucking up the market.First of all I've been going to Colombia longer than you have been alive, so I believe you have a lot of posts with limited knowledge. I have never paid in dollars anywhere! Or 400 600 cop. I have a list of favorites, non pros who until this year never even mentioned the high prices YOU Medellin squarters brought to Bogota. I only mentioned the cost of changing dollars to cop and the exchange rate they rip you off for. You really need to brush up on you reading comprehension, I said I have always paid in local currencies for the last 30 years. So if the knuckle heads who pay these girls 400 k and you Medellin guys continue doing it then AND ONLY THEN is it better to pay 100 USD than go through the exchange bull shit and pay 100 USD which after all the exchange bullshit shakes out to be around 3500 to a dollar for the guys like you who are paying hard core prepagos 400 and 500 in Medellin and bringing that shit here to Bogota. Pay attention now, stay with me on this. I SAID THEY PAY THESES GIRLS 400/500 cop not me, never have and never will. And I don't fuck hard core pros either like you and some others feed on. Now go get your shine box.
Casa No Va
12-26-23, 15:48
First of all I've been going to Colombia longer than you have been alive, so I believe you have a lot of posts with limited knowledge. I have never paid in dollars anywhere! Or 400 600 cop. I only mentioned the cost of changing dollars to cop and the exchange rate they rip you off for. You really need to brush up on you reading comprehension, I said I have always paid in local currencies for the last 30 years. So if the knuckle heads who pay these girls 400 k and you Medellin guys continue doing it then AND ONLY THEN is it better to pay 100 USD than go through the exchange bull shit and pay 100 USD which after all the exchange bullshit shakes out to be around 3500 to a dollar for the guys like you who are paying hard core prepagos 400 and 500 in Medellin and bringing that shit here to Bogota. Pay attention now, stay with me on this. I SAID THEY PAY THESES GIRLS 400/500 cop not me, never have and never will. And I don't fuck hard core pros either like you and some others feed on. Now go get your shine box.What noone seems to be mentioning here is you can still negotiate the price you want to pay in pesos then proceed to pay in the equivalent dollars. Don't bring only 100 dollar bills. Bring a bunch of 50 dollar bills and some 20's. Let the girls go exchange it. If a Casa girl quotes 120 k plus 80 k adicional for BBBJ. Give her a 50 dollar bill. Not rocket science.
If a centro girl quotes 80 k give her a 20 dollar bill. Lose way less money that way.
Prelude141
12-26-23, 15:50
First of all I've been going to Colombia longer than you have been alive, so I believe you have a lot of posts with limited knowledge. I have never paid in dollars anywhere! Or 400 600 cop. I have a list of favorites, non pros who until this year never even mentioned the high prices YOU Medellin squarters brought to Bogota. I only mentioned the cost of changing dollars to cop and the exchange rate they rip you off for. You really need to brush up on you reading comprehension, I said I have always paid in local currencies for the last 30 years. So if the knuckle heads who pay these girls 400 k and you Medellin guys continue doing it then AND ONLY THEN is it better to pay 100 USD than go through the exchange bull shit and pay 100 USD which after all the exchange bullshit shakes out to be around 3500 to a dollar for the guys like you who are paying hard core prepagos 400 and 500 in Medellin and bringing that shit here to Bogota. Pay attention now, stay with me on this. I SAID THEY PAY THESES GIRLS 400/500 cop not me, never have and never will. And I don't fuck hard core pros either like you and some others feed on. Now go get your shine box.No need to be defensive. You pay too much and you know it. I remind you that the min legal wage in CO is 1 160 000 cop. That means that at the rate you pay, 2 sessions covers 1 month of basic salary. In no other country I visited, the ratio rato out of basic salary is so unfavorable. Bottom line, the usual 100 k cop 250 k cop remain largely well paid. Ideally price being below 100 k. There is a reason why locals pays low prices. You, you just contribute to messing up the market for local people and mindful foreigners. Rest assured that you are not the only culprit, others gringos have done that in MDE and Cartagena and then complaint endlessly on this same board. After the market is ruined, they move to another country. Thanks very much.
Let's see if am comprehending you right, in this post you say that you have never paid in US Dollars anywhere:
I have never paid in dollars anywhere! However in your previous post from Yesterday you stated that you recommend "going back to the USD" in other words, paying in dollars.
I recommend going back to USD, until the exchange rate goes back up.So you are recommending to people who read ISG that they should do something that you claim that you yourself have never done?
How is this not giving bad advice? You should atleast have experience with something before you recommend others to do it. Paying for anything in Colombia with USD is not going to save anyone any money and it is not cheaper than using COP.
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What noone seems to be mentioning here is you can still negotiate the price you want to pay in pesos then proceed to pay in the equivalent dollars. Don't bring only 100 dollar bills. Bring a bunch of 50 dollar bills and some 20's. Let the girls go exchange it. If a Casa girl quotes 120 k plus 80 k adicional for BBBJ. Give her a 50 dollar bill. Not rocket science.
If a centro girl quotes 80 k give her a 20 dollar bill. Lose way less money that way.Right. So she asks 200 k, that is $52 dollars and change today. So you offer her $50 and she takes it? If so, yep, you win. But if she asks 200 k and you offer her 150 k she might take that. Anyway. I think that lots of them have a good idea of the current exchange rate, and if not they probably won't want dollars anyway. But all moot point to me. I certainly can't offer Canadian dollars, not even in the US. No one has any idea and they simply refuse. Which I understand. Anyway, the whole thing with US dollars just seems like arrogance to me.
Bango Cheito
12-28-23, 04:23
Right. So she asks 200 k, that is $52 dollars and change today. So you offer her $50 and she takes it? If so, yep, you win. But if she asks 200 k and you offer her 150 k she might take that. Anyway. I think that lots of them have a good idea of the current exchange rate, and if not they probably won't want dollars anyway. But all moot point to me. I certainly can't offer Canadian dollars, not even in the US. No one has any idea and they simply refuse. Which I understand. Anyway, the whole thing with US dollars just seems like arrogance to me.They can't spend it anywhere, and there's a huge glut of USD on the market right now due to Colombias #1 export being pushed so heavily, so they will have to wait in line at a money exchange rate to get a real shitty rate for it.
This means that. If they're not utter morons. They HAVE to charge a premium to accept those USD. It's a lose / lose really.
Just use the ATMs to get COP.
Jose Flores
12-28-23, 13:22
What I was saying is that most pharmacies will sell you anything you ask for even if it is prescription only and you don't have a prescription. I've even been able to by opiate pain killers (hydrocodon) brand name dolex from just about any pharmacy in Medellin without a prescription eventhough it clearly says on the box "requiere receta medica".
Viagra (sildenafil) and Cialis (Taldalafil) are available in abundance without a prescription and for less than a dollar a pill. Quality generics are available from brands such as MK, Genfar, AG, and La Sante (the cheapest generic).
Also antibiotics such as azythromycin, doxycycline, antivirals such as valacyclovir, I have even ordered those thru rappi and had them delivered to me. Never once was I asked for a prescription eventhough they require a prescription. You just need the cash (efectivo).
Not sure if they have locations in Bogota but if you're ever in Medellin I recommend using this pharmacy Todo Drogas (see attached photo).Good to know thank you!
What I was saying is that most pharmacies will sell you anything you ask for even if it is prescription only and you don't have a prescription. I've even been able to by opiate pain killers (hydrocodon) brand name dolex from just about any pharmacy in Medellin without a prescription eventhough it clearly says on the box "requiere receta medica".
Viagra (sildenafil) and Cialis (Taldalafil) are available in abundance without a prescription and for less than a dollar a pill. Quality generics are available from brands such as MK, Genfar, AG, and La Sante (the cheapest generic).
Also antibiotics such as azythromycin, doxycycline, antivirals such as valacyclovir, I have even ordered those thru rappi and had them delivered to me. Never once was I asked for a prescription eventhough they require a prescription. You just need the cash (efectivo).
Not sure if they have locations in Bogota but if you're ever in Medellin I recommend using this pharmacy Todo Drogas (see attached photo).At many of the pharmacies in the SF area You can get pain killers like Codiene, Tramadol, for so cheap a bottle of Tramadol drops is 7 mil and the codeien iis. 30 a pill.
And antibiotics -- listed above-- very economical--I pay about. 55 for 50 MG Viagra -- also there is a great deal on 5 MG generic Cialis. Or 20 MG if you like-.
Also Testoviron in a pre-loaded syring 250 MG is about $9-.
All without a pressciption-- Have a Better one!!
JohnnyWishBone
12-30-23, 16:20
There is a lot being said about paying girls for their services. What is absolutely true is that the average American visiting Colombia is driving the market upwards. A lot of it is down to the laziness and arrogance of wanting to only pay in USD. The girls see the USD and start pricing in USD which basically ruins it for everyone else. I know this from first hand from several girls in Bogota and Cartagena. Medellin is bound to be the same. The other thing is that a lot of gringos cannot speak a word of Spanish so they cannot barter for a good price and instead just settle for whatever the girl says. Back in 2019, girls were doing overnights for 400.000 COP and now they are demanding 200 USD min, but price in USD.
Do us all a favour, use local currency and be a bit more aware of the fact that you are in Colombia and not the US, so do not try to compare the two markets. One of the reasons why guys like punting in Colombia is because of the amazing value. The moment you start offering USD, you ruin it for everyone else.
With $85 entry charge imposed on visitors from Canada, it is going to be expensive to visit Colombia multiple times in a year.
Does Colombia offer multiple entry visas good for few years?
I'm splitting my time between Bogota and Medellin and I am looking for recommendations on the best / safest places to find the ladies. Planning on staying at Tequendama Suites and Hotel. I'm not trying to nickel and dime things and I'd rather pay a little more for convenience and safety so if anyone has suggestions on places to visit I'd appreciate it. I prefer strip clubs (if they are reasonably safe) and "spa's" where I get to pick from a lineup.
No negative or sarcastic comments necessary as we are all just trying to be safe and share helpful information.
Thanks in advance!
I'm splitting my time between Bogota and Medellin and I am looking for recommendations on the best / safest places to find the ladies. Planning on staying at Tequendama Suites and Hotel. I'm not trying to nickel and dime things and I'd rather pay a little more for convenience and safety so if anyone has suggestions on places to visit I'd appreciate it. I prefer strip clubs (if they are reasonably safe) and "spa's" where I get to pick from a lineup.
No negative or sarcastic comments necessary as we are all just trying to be safe and share helpful information.
Thanks in advance!Living near Santa Fe Redlight area it is so easy to find super hot girls safely -- I have been doing it for 10+ years-.
If you like banging SGs Santa Fe is Fantastic-- you can find Hot Quality safe girls easily and pre qualify them for more expensive dates-.
Of course-- I don't think all guys can do this-- You have to have good Spanish, interpersonal skills and emotional intellegence-- Good Luck.
With $85 entry charge imposed on visitors from Canada, it is going to be expensive to visit Colombia multiple times in a year.
Does Colombia offer multiple entry visas good for few years?I agree! I might go less and stay longer, or explore other countries. I went 4 times in 2023, but only paid the last visit. Adding an extra $340 a year for nothing, just because Colombia is being vengeful towards our government is ridiculous to me. Why am I being penalized even more for spending money in Colombia. Flights are much more now too.
I know $340 is not a fortune, but it is my money.
Hey all, it's been a year since I was down there and have an upcoming trip going back in a couple of weeks. Cannot wait. This will be the 4th time in Bogota. Last time I was there, Fiebre and Troya were the pick of the clubs with Antonis a close 3rd followed by Venus being the one where you could find a diamond in the rough. Paisas and Texas were crap then. I'm guessing it's all still the same? Beers and water still a standard 10 k? I believe there was a club that had just opened across from Troya, right next to Venus on the Venus side of the street (pink pussycat or something or maybe I'm completely wrong on the name) but is that one any good yet??
Thanks for the info! Would you recommend walking the streets and picking a lady from the options standing out from of their buildings, hit up the strip clubs, or hit up the casas / spas?
I'll likely do some combination of all three. I figured I'd see what you (and everyone else) thought of those three different options.
I'm also curious how easy / difficult it is to bring back women to your hotel. I'm staying in a room with a jacuzzi / hot tub and I'd like to have some fun back there (unless anyone has strict points on why not to do this). I understand the importance of being safe and I have excellent situational awareness.
Thanks in advance everyone!
Living near Santa Fe Redlight area it is so easy to find super hot girls safely -- I have been doing it for 10+ years-.
If you like banging SGs Santa Fe is Fantastic-- you can find Hot Quality safe girls easily and pre qualify them for more expensive dates-.
Of course-- I don't think all guys can do this-- You have to have good Spanish, interpersonal skills and emotional intellegence-- Good Luck.
Bango Cheito
01-02-24, 03:33
At many of the pharmacies in the SF area You can get pain killers like Codiene, Tramadol, for so cheap a bottle of Tramadol drops is 7 mil and the codeien iis. 30 a pill.
And antibiotics -- listed above-- very economical--I pay about. 55 for 50 MG Viagra -- also there is a great deal on 5 MG generic Cialis. Or 20 MG if you like-.
Also Testoviron in a pre-loaded syring 250 MG is about $9-.
All without a pressciption-- Have a Better one!!The only thing I've struck out on is. Drum roll. Adderall! Apparently they just don't import it here.
BroScientist
01-02-24, 16:32
Going to Bogota in a month. And I want to get a new whatsapp number. Apparently Sideline no longer works for getting a disposable US phone number for whatsapp. Any suggestions?
Of late I am trying to pipeline semi pros off of social media (Facebook and instagram) to fuck during my stay in Bogota. Got a bunch of responses from girls in medellin, but the response rate from Bogota girls is very very low.
Going to Bogota in a month. And I want to get a new whatsapp number. Apparently Sideline no longer works for getting a disposable US phone number for whatsapp. Any suggestions?
Of late I am trying to pipeline semi pros off of social media (Facebook and instagram) to fuck during my stay in Bogota. Got a bunch of responses from girls in medellin, but the response rate from Bogota girls is very very low.You can buy claro prepaid sim cards all over the place, claro stores and oxxo convenience stores are the most reliable. But virtually every Bodega sells them, I got one yesterday in Santa Fe since Claro stores are closed for the holiday. Make sure you register it or Claro will lock your phone out after a couple months and force you to go to them to fix it.
Bogota is notoriously weak for the online game, I'm going to try signing up to a bunch of dating apps as an experiment and see what I get for responses. I'll report back my findings.
Flew into Bogota for new years eve, dropped the luggage off at my airbnb and made it to Santa fe by 10 pm. Many of the clubs were closed compared to my last trip to Santa fe two years ago but the party on the street was wild. Lots of cuties, lots of fireworks and drinking. Felt like a big block party. I was jetlagged and sleep deprived so I didn't take any chicas to a room but I collected a couple numbers for later this week. Honestly wish I would have collected more because there was way more talent out than what I saw yesterday.
Mondays are usually pretty slow from what I remember but with the holiday lots of the women are still back home with family. Virtually zero car traffic reminded me of 2021. Still managed to find a couple flacas to my liking for un rato, paid 50 mil for one and 60 (+10 for the room) for the other. Found one 8+ (to me) who would only go for 200 mil for a hour wouldn't do short time. She was partying with her friends so I think she just didn't want to leave unless it was worth it.
At many of the pharmacies in the SF area You can get pain killers like Codiene, Tramadol, for so cheap a bottle of Tramadol drops is 7 mil and the codeien iis. 30 a pill.
And antibiotics -- listed above-- very economical--I pay about. 55 for 50 MG Viagra -- also there is a great deal on 5 MG generic Cialis. Or 20 MG if you like-.
Also Testoviron in a pre-loaded syring 250 MG is about $9-.
All without a pressciption-- Have a Better one!!Also I just found out that you can get prescription weight loss / diabetes medications without a prescription for super cheap compared to US prices.
They have the Saxenda once daily injection pen (similar to Ozempic and Wegovy) for only $178 k ($45 usd). And they have Rybelsus which is the same identical medication as wegovy but in pill form for $566 k ($145 usd) for a one month supply. These meds cost thousands of dollars in the US.
I actually am thinking about maybe trying the Saxenda pen as I would like to lose about 30-40 lbs myself. I might take it the rest of the time I'm here to see if I could lose some weight. Not sure if I could bring some back to the US with me when I leave to go work though since I don't have a prescription and would hate to have CBP confiscate it from me upon entering the US. Although it probably wouldn't be too hard to get a doctor here in Colombia to write me a prescription for it and then carry that with the pens in case if I get asked if I have a prescription for it.
Bango Cheito
01-02-24, 18:22
Going to Bogota in a month. And I want to get a new whatsapp number. Apparently Sideline no longer works for getting a disposable US phone number for whatsapp. Any suggestions?
Of late I am trying to pipeline semi pros off of social media (Facebook and instagram) to fuck during my stay in Bogota. Got a bunch of responses from girls in medellin, but the response rate from Bogota girls is very very low.Try TextNow for WhatsApp.
Going to Bogota in a month. And I want to get a new whatsapp number. Apparently Sideline no longer works for getting a disposable US phone number for whatsapp. Any suggestions?When you get to Bogota, you can go to an OFFICIAL Claro store (I go to the one in the Andino Mall) with a copy of your passport. Then, let them set you up. Pay few mil for a SIM. Pre-pay around 42 K for 30 days of around 12 or 14 Gigs, with unlimited talk and text. Or 30 something K for limited talk and text.
Then use the local Colombian number to set up a WhatsApp account. The number will expire in about a year if you don't reload.
Contrary to what is recommended here, don't buy a cheap burner phone. Spend $500 rather than $100. Buy one with a good camera. You never know when you will want to take pictures/videos.
Mr Enternational
01-02-24, 18:37
Going to Bogota in a month. And I want to get a new whatsapp number. Apparently Sideline no longer works for getting a disposable US phone number for whatsapp. Any suggestions?Google Voice.
BroScientist
01-02-24, 18:40
Try TextNow for WhatsApp.Tried it, didn't work.
Tried it, didn't work.Its better to have a +57 number anyways for your WhatsApp. After you arrive you can buy a claro or Tigo Sim card for as little as 4 k pesos. Then put a cheap package on it for as little as 3 k pesos and put it in your phone. Then you can use that new Colombian number to register your WhatsApp.
Make sure to register your imei number within 30 days so your phone doesn't get blocked. There's info here in the forum about how to do that.
[Deleted by Admin]who say that having a Colombian number I'd not better than having a +1 number, however they are full of shit. If you have a +1 numbers the girls you communicate with will think you are a gringo and will try to charge you like double what it should be. I believe JJBee62 in his own defense said he didn't see a difference in price when using a +57 vs a +1 phone number, but he also said he doesn't speak or write much Spanish and doesn't know local phrases and / or words, so really he was always paying a gringo tax to begin with and thus for him even a +57 number couldn't help him. But if you have a decent command of Spanish and use a +57 WhatsApp you should be able to pull Facebook girls for 120 k - 150 k instead of 250 k. Take it or leave it.
Thanks for the info! Would you recommend walking the streets and picking a lady from the options standing out from of their buildings, hit up the strip clubs, or hit up the casas / spas?
I'll likely do some combination of all three. I figured I'd see what you (and everyone else) thought of those three different options.
I'm also curious how easy / difficult it is to bring back women to your hotel. I'm staying in a room with a jacuzzi / hot tub and I'd like to have some fun back there (unless anyone has strict points on why not to do this). I understand the importance of being safe and I have excellent situational awareness.
Thanks in advance everyone!You should bring girls back to Teqendama suites after you get to know them. THe hotel is girl friendly, during the day it is free to have guests. The hotel has good security. Get to know the staff and tip them-.
To get street girls you have to make friends with them do quickee sessions in the rooms there. I love finding hot streetie Sweeties-- You can find new girls often.
Go at 5-6 pm for fantastic girl watching and Banging-- Also lunch hour can be great too-- The 1st and 15th are paydays and the SGs come out.
Do this in clubs and casas too. Build your stable. I love Santa Fe because it is so close to where I live-- Great Sexy Time Convenience. I Love Hot Cheap Sex.
Tinder is another good idea-- set up an account to mac to some girls before you get here-- I don't do Tinder but other guys have had sucess-- I just go to Santa Fe, it's enough for me.
Escorts are another great option-- My friend just left the other day. He was banging 2-3 girls everyday from the 20th to the 30th-- Really hot talent from Celestina. He is all set up with them and gets real photos of new girls from the managers.
Teqendama Suites is about 5+ minute walk to the north stroll. All the clubs are there-- Every day can be the time of your life.
MaddTraveler
01-03-24, 02:12
Tried it, didn't work.I have 3 whatsapp numbers and one of them is with textnow. I think I had to upgrade to the $5 a year plan. Don't be cheap it's worth it. Plus they send you a sim to activate it as an option on a phone and not only via the app.
Dcrist0527
01-03-24, 02:58
A friend and I took our premier trip to CO a couple of weeks ago. OUr route was Bogo to Medellin to Cartagena and back to Bogo. We liked the food scene in Bogo, but really that's about it. I know some on here like the clubs (Troyas, Fiebre, and others), and we checked them out but I'd give them a hard pass unless you're desperate. The area does not feel safe. The three clubs we went into before Fiebre were seedy and dirty. Fiebre was okay, and the door staff were super pleasant. But still didn't care for the area very much. We stayed in Hotel be Virrey on the first leg. Small rooms, but nice hotel. Great area of town. Lots of bars / clubs / restaurants. We stayed at Tequendama Suites on the last leg. Also liked it. Rooms large and well-kept. Area around the hotel not nearly as interesting or as pleasant as Parque Virrey area near Hotel be Virrey. Views of the mountains were great from T. Suites. We brought our own girls from Medellin on the last leg. I had checked out Seeking.com before we went to Bogo, but prices were high for ST and even higher for LT, either that or the girls were looking for permanent support. So we didn't end up seeing anyone from Seeking.
And there's the kicker: if you're going to Colombia to have fun, Medellin and Cartagena have so much more to offer. Yes, in the way of female companionship, but not limited to that. Food was excellent. Lots of tourist things to do. Communa 13. Walking around El Poblado. Even the Escobar museum (which is a bit of a rip-off). As to the females, well, just look out your door and they are waiting for you. Or hang out in one of the bars / restaurants off Parque Lleras and just watch the goings on. And the pricing is very reasonable compared to my home country (USA). Cartagena has a ton of things to do, and the ladies are just waiting for you to say "hola" and then off you go. Beach and snorkelling in Carta. Seaside meals. World Heritage site. Etc. Nothing like this in Bogo.
So, next trip, we have decided to give bogo a pass, and just start off in Medellin.
BTW, if you are in Medellin, there are some massage shops that people on this forum have mentioned, including (especially) Energy Spa. I thought Energy was a big "meh. " The massage itself wasn't much, and the more interesting parts were mechanical and boring. Nothing erotic about it. Can say though that the place itself is nice. Large, private rooms with shower, very clean, pleasant staff. But honestly, you are better off just grabbing one of the massage girls in Poblado / Provenza. Had a nice experience with one of those.
As with all subject reviews, ymmv.
Compared.This was really helpful. I'm a veteran of MDE. It's the only city I've visited in Colombia. Long story but my mongering days might be ending soon, involuntarily. I'm heading back to MDE for possibly the last time. I considered several other locations but none of them beat Medellin for my style. But I'm still in the mood for something different or new. I thought maybe I could take a trip to Bogota or CTG while in country. The flights are cheap, even if it's just a 2 day side trip. So I've read ALOT of pages here re: BOG. Frankly, I'm not overly enthusiastic. Am I missing something? Sounds like Fiebre or Troya might be the most attractive options. I'm not into SGs much. Casas are hit or miss for me; not worth the hassle of an extra couple flights, imo. Is there anything in Bogota that would be significantly better than what is available in MDE?
For example, my initial plan was a trip to Rio, which I've visited before. But was going to make a side trip to Sao Paolo specifically for Scandallo. Anything similar to warrant a trip to BOG? (I know there's oi Scandallo there; I'm just looking for something extra if this is my last hurrah.).
Thanks for all the info and tips! I'm sure I'll have more questions before my trip haha.
Every day can be the time of your life.
Hi friends,
Until now I have traveled mainly to Eastern Europe for pussy. As things got complicated there I have scheduled my first trip to Bogota at the end of January. Having no regional experience and no language and being slightly cowardly, I would like to use delivery service ie using an agency (at least for the beginning). Is there an agency one of you can recommend or on to avoid at any costs? Thank you all in advance. GE.
Casa No Va
01-03-24, 15:46
In my experience in Santa Fe you can hit it off real well with a Venezuelan street hottie and be denied entrance to Tequendama Suites even if she has a Venezuelan ID proving her age. Colombian girls are the safer bet because they are allowed in with their Colombian ID / Cedula. The Venezuelan girls you can take them to the love motels in the area or nicer ones in Chapinero.
Globalnomad5
01-03-24, 16:51
Hi friends,
Until now I have traveled mainly to Eastern Europe for pussy. As things got complicated there I have scheduled my first trip to Bogota at the end of January. Having no regional experience and no language and being slightly cowardly, I would like to use delivery service ie using an agency (at least for the beginning). Is there an agency one of you can recommend or on to avoid at any costs? Thank you all in advance. GE.https://eroticasbogota.com/ gets good reviews. Be aware you'd need to provide your real name and the hotel / airbnb you're staying at, otherwise they won't do business with you.
Mr Enternational
01-03-24, 17:07
who say that having a Colombian number I'd not better than having a +1 number, however they are full of shit. If you have a +1 numbers the girls you communicate with will think you are a gringo and will try to charge you like double what it should be. But if you have a decent command of Spanish and use a +57 WhatsApp you should be able to pull Facebook girls for 120 k - 150 k instead of 250 k. Take it or leave it.That is only if you do not know what you should be paying. If someone tells you 500 K and you say ok then that is your own damn fault. If you say jajaja claro que no: 120 k, that is a different story. If you have a decent command of Spanish and know what the hell you are talking about, then you should not even have a problem if you are messaging from the moon.
Bango Cheito
01-03-24, 17:07
This was really helpful. I'm a veteran of MDE. It's the only city I've visited in Colombia. Long story but my mongering days might be ending soon, involuntarily. I'm heading back to MDE for possibly the last time. I considered several other locations but none of them beat Medellin for my style. But I'm still in the mood for something different or new. I thought maybe I could take a trip to Bogota or CTG while in country. The flights are cheap, even if it's just a 2 day side trip. So I've read ALOT of pages here re: BOG. Frankly, I'm not overly enthusiastic. Am I missing something? Sounds like Fiebre or Troya might be the most attractive options. I'm not into SGs much. Casas are hit or miss for me; not worth the hassle of an extra couple flights, imo. Is there anything in Bogota that would be significantly better than what is available in MDE?
For example, my initial plan was a trip to Rio, which I've visited before. But was going to make a side trip to Sao Paolo specifically for Scandallo. Anything similar to warrant a trip to BOG? (I know there's oi Scandallo there; I'm just looking for something extra if this is my last hurrah.).YMMV as always.
I don't do p4 p in Medellíand at all. I always have local FWB when I go there, and I find p4 p in Medellíand boring.
I love the Pussy House experience in Bogotá. A lot of people here seem to not love it.
I love Bogotá's weather and Medellíand is a little too hot for me. Once again, YMMV.
Thank you very much! Will try and report back!
https://eroticasbogota.com/ gets good reviews. Be aware you'd need to provide your real name and the hotel / airbnb you're staying at, otherwise they won't do business with you.
Chico Bonito
01-03-24, 17:49
A few weeks ago when I was staying in Chapinero, I was walking around a little after 9 in the morning, looking for some of the casas I saw listed on the puti mapa. They're a little easier to find (with the help of the map) than I feared they would be, since you can see their doors left slightly open, with loud music playing from inside (which is really noticeable in the morning).
I was expecting a more house-like feel to these "casas". Even though they look like houses / apartments from the outside, on the inside they're like clubs: dance club / bar furniture, serving drinks, dim lighting, loud music (and often multiple tv screens showing porn.) They ask you if you'd like a drink when you walk in. When you tell them you'd like to see the chicas, a guy starts clapping and yelling for "the dancers" to come present themselves.
Most of the places seemed to operate from 9 am to 11 pm. These were the establishments I found open after a few minutes of walking around, before I decided to stick with one and get myself a chica:
Palma Real (Cra. 15 #66-17):
This is a green house with a white door. There was a guy with an umbrella standing outside, inviting men to come inside to check out girls. Supposedly there are more casas on the opposite side of the street, but I couldn't tell if they were open or not. When I went inside for the chicas presentation, there were 4 working at that time. They didn't seem particularly excited to be there, maybe it was too early in the morning for them, LOL. One chica with braces at least was smiling at me, but I was turned off by the general lack of enthusiasm and friendliness, so I left.
Angelitas (CL. 64 #15-16):
A small door among a cluster of businesses. This place looked like the others inside, maybe even a little nicer, but the only person there was a woman mopping the floors. She said "yes we're open, but none of the girls are here yet. By 1 pm they should show up".
Bar 64 (CL. 64 #14-66):
On the same street as Angelitas and Rosquillas, about a block away. Seemed open from the outside, but I didn't look inside this one. On a different evening I saw a group of guys hanging out in front of this place, so it seems to be popular / active.
Rosquillas 64 (CL. 64 #15-30):
Another establishment just a few doors down from Angelitas. This one had 5 chicas of various looks working at the time, including a fatty if you're into big girls (something I haven't seen before at any casa / massage parlor.) One by one they came up to introduce themselves to me with a friendly and eager vibe, lots of lingering eye contact and handshakes. There was also a 6th girl there who was absolutely stunning, looked like a model, but she didn't get up to come greet me and wouldn't even look in my direction. Maybe she wasn't actually a working girl, or maybe she was waiting for a client who had a reservation with her. I asked the guy running the place if there were any more chicas, he said that "there will be many more and hotter ones by around 1 pm".
Two out of the five were very much to my liking, so I flipped a coin and chose one to go with. She was cute, tall, nice body, late 20's, and very friendly right from the initial introduction. My intuition was telling me she would be fun and affectionate. She led me upstairs to a surprisingly big room with a nice big bed and its own bathroom. The price was 100 k for 1 hour, including massage, CBJ, and sexo, with 2 pops. We talked extras, and I agreed to +30 k for kissing and another 30 k for BBBJ.
She gave GREAT head. When she noticed how much I was enjoying it, she just kept going and going, giggling while I was writhing and moaning in pleasure. I told her if she didn't stop I was going to cum, and she just kept giving me more. Finally I made her stop because I wanted to fuck. She told me, "you better get on top, because if we start out with me on top you'll cum right away. " "Is that so? You seem really confident in yourself" I told her, and she just nodded and kept chuckling proudly and knowingly. I should have asked her to prove it just for fun, but instead took her advice and had a lot of fun on top of her for a few minutes until I couldn't take it anymore and shot my load.
After that she massaged me for a bit, then I massaged her, and we talked a lot. She's from Venezuela, and was going back to her country in a few days for a month of vacation. Unintentionally, more than half the working girls I've been with while in Colombia have turned out to be Venezuelan. Often they will ask me if they are the first Venezuelan I have met or been with, and of course I always tell them yes, LOL.
She talked about how many of her friends and family live in the USA Now, and how she wants to move there, but the passport is expensive and "the trip through the jungle" is expensive and long and dangerous. She talked a lot about money, how she's working to support her whole family back home, and how much she wants a boyfriend (and wants to ask Santa Claus for a boyfriend for Christmas).
After that we went another round, with her on top this time. She worked her hips on me good and played with her clit until she came. Then she wanted me doggy style, and soon there came the knock on the door. "I'll be right there" she called out, then told me "cum for me" and I obliged. We cleaned up and got dressed, and exchanged numbers so we could stay in touch.
I tipped her an extra 20 k for the great service. The experience was very much worth the 180 k, and I'd be happy to go back in the future to session with her again and try out other girls there. If I get a chance to go back there before I leave, or check out more of the casas in Chapinero, I'll write another report.
I'm in a similar situation (minus the slightly cowardly part. I'd classify myself as cautious and hyper aware) as you so I am curious to see how your experience is if you choose to share your experiences from your trip. Which I hope you do. Good luck and safe travels!
Hi friends,
Until now I have traveled mainly to Eastern Europe for pussy. As things got complicated there I have scheduled my first trip to Bogota at the end of January. Having no regional experience and no language and being slightly cowardly, I would like to use delivery service ie using an agency (at least for the beginning). Is there an agency one of you can recommend or on to avoid at any costs? Thank you all in advance. GE.
Chico Bonito
01-04-24, 20:05
Great post and super helpful! I will be taking a trip down to Bogota in a few months and I found this review extremely helpful. If you (or anyone else) has an tips for me I'd gladly take them. I'm quite experienced with mongering in the US, Europe, and the one trip I've made to South America (Quito, Ecuador). Any tips, tricks, or hints about Bogota would be great and appreciated. Thanks and stay safe out there!Thank you! Glad you liked the report and found it helpful.
Here's my advice for newcomers, from the limited time I have spent in Colombia:
1. Be cautious. Colombia is a very dangerous country, and Colombians will be the first to admit this. Bogota has a high violent crime rate, and if you look in the Medellin thread you'll see that it's absolutely full of reports of robberies, druggings, kidnappings, and deaths. Whether it's getting mugged on the street, held hostage by a fake taxi, or drugged by hookers, there are lots of dangers to look out for. Don't take unneccessary risks that make it easier for bad people to take advantage of you or hurt you ("No dar papaya".) Do your research on this forum and elsewhere beforehand about the threats here and how to best avoid them.
2. Learn as much Spanish as you possibly can before you arrive. It will help you get around easier, and will improve your interaction with the chicas.
3. Take Ubers everywhere you need to go. They're much safer than walking around (especially at night). Uber is also safer than taxis, which can sometimes overcharge naive tourists, and there are even stories of fake taxis robbing and kidnapping unsuspecting passengers. Ubers are so ridiculously cheap here in Colombia, so there's no reason not to.
4. If you don't already use Whatsapp, install it and start learning to use it. It's what everyone down here uses to communicate. Go to a store for one of the local phone companies (Claro, MoviStar, etc.) to get a sim card for a local number and service if you will be staying for a few weeks or more.
5. In Bogota, the north end of the city (Usaquen, Zona T, Parque 93, etc.) is the rich and "safe" area. The neighborhoods get poorer and more dangerous the further south you go. Chapinero isn't too bad. Candelaria, Santa Fe, and other central neighborhoods are bad. Further south than those are worse.
6. Working girls are available all over the city through escort services / websites, dating apps, massage parlors / spas / strip clubs /"casas" (ho' houses), and the street. The highest concentration I know of are in Santa Fe and Chapinero.
Good luck, have fun, be safe, and write reports of your visit!
Looks like the new mayor is shaking up Cartagenas Centro clubs, don't know if it's a complete shutdown or relocation.
Could it lead to more talent coming to Bogota? I only want to CAR but the girls seemed softer around the edges so I don't see them going to Santa Fe maybe the Usaquen, Chapinero clubs.
Photo attached is an example of the new art work they are doing in Bogotá-- new murals all over downtown.
DonCarlos1234
01-06-24, 04:03
This was really helpful. I'm a veteran of MDE. It's the only city I've visited in Colombia. snip
For example, my initial plan was a trip to Rio, which I've visited before. But was going to make a side trip to Sao Paolo specifically for Scandallo. Anything similar to warrant a trip to BOG? (I know there's oi Scandallo there; I'm just looking for something extra if this is my last hurrah.).Just sayin' It takes 4 more hours to get to Brazil. I think you know there is nothing in Bogota and very little in Medellin (SA or La Isla sorting thru the plastic) nothing like Brazil. Alas you don't have to go to Scandallo to find a 10 in Sao Paulo, some are off the charts. Quality girls are less expensive than Colombia, although far from cheap.
Medellin has much nicer scenery and girls are hit or miss but they ARE there, it's just not point and shoot like Brazil. Cartagena might be nice also. I plan to go there on my next trip.
If this was my last trip I would go to Rio / Sao Paulo and never return. Right now it's summer and too hot for me because I want to do some island hoping and cruises.
JohnnieCash
01-06-24, 04:57
Medellin ... girls are hit or miss but they ARE there, it's just not point and shoot like Brazil. .What are you saying? That Brazilians provide on average better service? Or that there is more choice than in Med?
Quality girls are less expensive than Colombia, although far from cheap..Meaning how much exactly and where do you find them?
What are you saying? That Brazilians provide on average better service? Or that there is more choice than in Med?
Meaning how much exactly and where do you find them?This guy just does SA-- so that is all he knows-.
Weekend definitely brought some better quality chicas, especially in the evening / night. Everyone saying starting Monday (Jan 8th) things should be fully back to normal. It's a trade off, more chicas and restaurants reopening for business but also a lot more traffic. I still found plenty of women to my liking including a few special ones I'll stay in contact with for when I return in March.
Prices for street workers were 40 or 50 mil (+10 for hotel) for 15 minutes, with some negotiation you can get some to do the same rate for 30 minutes. I was paying 80-100 mil for a hour. All were 6-8's to me age 18-22. Most were standard service but if they take a liking to ya they offer a few more things off menu. Work on your Spanish fellas, I wish I would have practiced more before coming here as it really pays dividends.
Favorite restaurant: the king shawarma.
Favorite loop: north. Sure you can save a few mil in the south but quality was consistently better in the north.
Favorite pharmacy: Drogueria Suramerica Bogota DC, corner of 22 and 16. Cheapest generic cialis and had good prices on a couple other products.
Favorite approach: sample a chica short time for 50, collect whatsapp / facebook if theyre good and negotiate a time at my hotel of choice for a hour next time. Rather meet them in the morning / early afternoon before the shift starts. Also they're usually more inclined to agree to your price.
Off to Brazil will post updates there.
SankarShetty
01-07-24, 18:04
I will in Bogota overnight on my way to another city. I have previously stayed in Chapinero and 93 areas. I am familiar with Santa Fe but have never really stayed at the Teqendama hotel or the Teq Suites or ibis hotel.
I am looking for a nice hotel to spend the night near the airport. Anything that is chica friendly and not too shabby. Any info on urban26 or Hilton garden inn near the airport?
BroScientist
01-07-24, 19:56
Fascinating read. Written by some Captain Savaho.
https://inlovelyblue.com/dating-a-venezuelan-prostitute-from-santa-fe-bogota/
Elvis 2008
01-07-24, 20:29
This was really helpful. I'm a veteran of MDE. It's the only city I've visited in Colombia. Long story but my mongering days might be ending soon, involuntarily. I'm heading back to MDE for possibly the last time. I considered several other locations but none of them beat Medellin for my style. But I'm still in the mood for something different or new. I thought maybe I could take a trip to Bogota or CTG while in country. The flights are cheap, even if it's just a 2 day side trip. So I've read ALOT of pages here re: BOG. Frankly, I'm not overly enthusiastic. Am I missing something? Sounds like Fiebre or Troya might be the most attractive options.
For example, my initial plan was a trip to Rio, which I've visited before. But was going to make a side trip to Sao Paolo specifically for Scandallo. Anything similar to warrant a trip to BOG? (I know there's oi Scandallo there; I'm just looking for something extra if this is my last hurrah.).Dcirst, I make all these comments to Don Carlos that cannot be proved and he sees the same thing I do. One comment I made is the women off seeking are way better than run of the mill hookers. Another I made is the women in Brazil give better head than any other women in the world. Guys ask me how I can say that and Don does like me and sees the same thing. He usually hangs out longer in these spots than I do though and does it bigger, better, and deeper than I did.
Thing is Bogota is the same flight time from Miami as it is from Houston, so it is a great place. Given how sweet, cultured, giving, and friendly many of the women are there, I think it is a great place to find a girlfriend. It is also a great place that is a short flight from Miami where you can get laid for less than $20.
Sao Paulo is a dump. There is way too much pollution, too much traffic, too few open spaces, and the crime is through the roof. As beautiful as Rio is, that is how ugly Sao Paulo is. But for women, it has the best looking and best performing women in the world, and it is not close. Colombia cannot hold a candle to SP and neither can Rio. If you think you have had the Brazilian experience because you have been to Rio, you have not. Rio was such a let down after SP.
If it is strictly a sexcation, and you only have a weekend, Colombia is fine. If you have a week, do Sao Paulo. If you want a diversion from that pit of a city, grab a woman or three from SP and head to Florianpolis. That is the kind of trip to take that is the ultimate send off.
Prelude141
01-07-24, 21:14
Fascinating read. Written by some Captain Savaho.
https://inlovelyblue.com/dating-a-venezuelan-prostitute-from-santa-fe-bogota/Typical soja boy trying to be the white knight hero. At least he seems to have understood that it never works like he saw in the disneys.
Fascinating read. Written by some Captain Savaho.
https://inlovelyblue.com/dating-a-venezuelan-prostitute-from-santa-fe-bogota/Just keep in mind that like with everything else in life there are two sides of the story.
Fascinating read. Written by some Captain Savaho.
https://inlovelyblue.com/dating-a-venezuelan-prostitute-from-santa-fe-bogota/I think he has a short time hotel. Mixed up with a brothel. Obviously if she is standing outside in front then it's not a brothel because she would be inside if it were, it is most likely a short time hotel she is standing in front of since she is outside, and she is a street girl not a casa girl.
Also Bogota isn't even that cold. It is a cooler climate but it's not any colder than San Francisco, CA. He repeatedly states that it is freezing as if it's Anchorage, AK.
This guy obviously doesn't know wtf he is talking about and it's boring and too much to read, he took a hooker out to dinner big fucking deal LOL. He should have just fucked her like any normal person would.
It's been a while and I can't seem to find the post I referenced despite searching for it but I've got written down in my notes that someone had posted that the Hyatt place Bogota / convention center did not charge a visitor fee as long as the girl didn't stay overnight. If they stayed overnight I wrote down it was 35 k but that you could also walk them in and just bypass the front desk completely but then you'the miss out on the safety aspect of the girl checking in. If you had to stay close to the airport then this one's only a little further down than your Hilton one.
It seems like you're already familiar with Bogota but have you considered going to the Tequendema or the Ibis and just having a girl come there. The ibis is nice enough. I wouldn't say it's Hilton standard but it's family and business friendly so the rooms are nice enough without being luxurious and it's girl friendly. There's also a small bar / dining area downstairs and a sitting area you could meet the girl at. As long as it's before 9/10 pm'ish the doors remain open. When I've come back from SF after midnight at sone point they lock the doors so you can only enter with a key.
Good luck.
I will in Bogota overnight on my way to another city. I have previously stayed in Chapinero and 93 areas. I am familiar with Santa Fe but have never really stayed at the Teqendama hotel or the Teq Suites or ibis hotel.
I am looking for a nice hotel to spend the night near the airport. Anything that is chica friendly and not too shabby. Any info on urban26 or Hilton garden inn near the airport?
Elvis 2008
01-08-24, 11:20
Just keep in mind that like with everything else in life there are two sides of the story.And this is the key line of the story, "She may or may not yet see it, but her current career is a dead end. It leads nowhere. And as her external beauty fades, as it does for all of us, she would slip further into poverty. But I didn't say that. ".
This is the key line this guy says. He does not get about Venezuela and Venezuelans. The guy is from Australia. For the most part, if you were in Australia, and you worked hard and were smart, you could succeed.
Venezuela is the polar opposite. If you worked hard and succeeded, you were going to get fucked by the government and have everything taken from you. In Venezuela, people are eating out of garbage cans, and she wants her family not to be like that. She does not have the luxury of thinking about a career.
You do not invest in people who do not believe in long term. If you want to invest in a woman, which he is thinking about doing, find somebody who believes long term is possible. In Colombia, that would be someone in college or who has gone to college and is working.
I have done this the wrong way and the right way, and this is the wrong way. Rich Cooper of the Manosphere is always saying you cannot buy genuine burning desire, and he is right, and that is what this guy is trying to do. He really screwed up here:
The Uber arrived at her 'home' and she typed a message on my phones translator before quickly trying to get it back and delete the message, so I couldn't read it. It was asking for money because she hadn't worked that day and she sends her earnings home to Venezuela, for her family.
It was pocket change to me and I chased her as she leapt out of the Uber to gladly give it to her. End of link.
She actually was conflicted about using this guy as an ATM, and he let her know he wanted to be one. Big mistake. Now he is done. This is not going to end well.
Hey All you Naughty Girl Lovers-.
I'm looking for Apartment buildings that do AirBnb style rentals that Are Not AirBnb-.
I know there is one in Chapinero but the name and info has escaped me-.
Also any other areas are also wanted-.
Thanks in Advance.
P.S.-- Action is Starting out Fantastic for 2024.
SankarShetty
01-09-24, 02:06
Pricewise, both Ibis and Teq seem very reasonable. Its just one night, can't go wrong with either one I think. I am not concerned as much with chica friendly since I am booking for 2 and I will be checkin with the chica. The location is a issue though. I want to be at a place where I can go out for dinner. Nothing fancy like park 93 area but like the zona gourmet in chapinero or some restaurants. I am assuming Teq and Ibis do not serve this purpose?
It's been a while and I can't seem to find the post I referenced despite searching for it but I've got written down in my notes that someone had posted that the Hyatt place Bogota / convention center did not charge a visitor fee as long as the girl didn't stay overnight. If they stayed overnight I wrote down it was 35 k but that you could also walk them in and just bypass the front desk completely but then you'the miss out on the safety aspect of the girl checking in. If you had to stay close to the airport then this one's only a little further down than your Hilton one.
It seems like you're already familiar with Bogota but have you considered going to the Tequendema or the Ibis and just having a girl come there. The ibis is nice enough. I wouldn't say it's Hilton standard but it's family and business friendly so the rooms are nice enough without being luxurious and it's girl friendly. There's also a small bar / dining area downstairs and a sitting area you could meet the girl at. As long as it's before 9/10 pm'ish the doors remain open. When I've come back from SF after midnight at sone point they lock the doors so you can only enter with a key.
Good luck.
You're correct for dinner. Not a lot but not sure of your taste and budget. There's a pizza / pasta place (Archie's) below the hotel which is honestly kinda mediocre. Right across from Ibis are 2-3 restaurants on Transverse 6. Okay'ish Asian at la lonchera. Nice enough for a quick meal. Not really for a date. Restaurant republik looks good for a date type thing though I've never been inside just looks nice from the outside. If you're okay with pub food there's a BBC just up the road from them both with some great craft beers. There's a really cute street Calle 30 going up to the La Perseverencia market (which itself is fantastic but only open for breakfast / lunch). That little stretch of Calle 30 is really an up and coming, trendy, restaurant row type area but I believe they're only for the lunch hours. You'the have to check. If they do dinner then that little stretch has about 8-10 restaurants and would be perfect.
Pricewise, both Ibis and Teq seem very reasonable. Its just one night, can't go wrong with either one I think. I am not concerned as much with chica friendly since I am booking for 2 and I will be checkin with the chica. The location is a issue though. I want to be at a place where I can go out for dinner. Nothing fancy like park 93 area but like the zona gourmet in chapinero or some restaurants. I am assuming Teq and Ibis do not serve this purpose?
Pricewise, both Ibis and Teq seem very reasonable. Its just one night, can't go wrong with either one I think. I am not concerned as much with chica friendly since I am booking for 2 and I will be checkin with the chica. The location is a issue though. I want to be at a place where I can go out for dinner. Nothing fancy like park 93 area but like the zona gourmet in chapinero or some restaurants. I am assuming Teq and Ibis do not serve this purpose?If you like seafood I recommend Gostinos Restaurant Seafood.
JohnnieCash
01-09-24, 15:21
She does not have the luxury of thinking about a career.
You do not invest in people who do not believe in long term. If you want to invest in a woman, which he is thinking about doing, find somebody who believes long term is possible. In Colombia, that would be someone in college or who has gone to college and is working.Hooking can be a relatively well paid (compared to local salaries) career for 10 years or so. Yes a lot of hookers just blow the money as soon as they get it but I know some that do think long term, even the street hookers, eg they are regularly exchanging up money to usd and saving that up to buy a house in Venezuela, or another that has a child and invests in his education, taking him up to various extra classes etc. Some, as they approach their 30's and see reduced income enroll in classes then, to try be veterinarians, nurses etc.
Plenty of great places downtown-.
Casadelrey on KR 7 and Calle 22, a great restaurant, Huge--in an early 20th century building-- attached is a coffee bar, good burger joint, taco house, sushi joint, and a sausage place. They have their own bakery.
There are 3 bakerys down the street on 22-- On kr 7 several parrillas and Florida bakery -restaurant which is a good white linen type restaurant -- And much more south and there is a new Mexican place I saw on kr5 near Bacata.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g294074-d20283494-Reviews-Casa_De_Rey-Bogota.html
Hi friends,
Until now I have traveled mainly to Eastern Europe for pussy. As things got complicated there I have scheduled my first trip to Bogota at the end of January. Having no regional experience and no language and being slightly cowardly, I would like to use delivery service ie using an agency (at least for the beginning). Is there an agency one of you can recommend or on to avoid at any costs? Thank you all in advance. GE.I personally like LaCelestina. A great variety of pretty girls! Website: lacelestina. Co.
Bango Cheito
01-10-24, 01:03
Plenty of great places downtown-.
Casadelrey on KR 7 and Calle 22, a great restaurant, Huge--in an early 20th century building-- attached is a coffee bar, good burger joint, taco house, sushi joint, and a sausage place. They have their own bakery.
There are 3 bakerys down the street on 22-- On kr 7 several parrillas and Florida bakery -restaurant which is a good white linen type restaurant -- And much more south and there is a new Mexican place I saw on kr5 near Bacata.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g294074-d20283494-Reviews-Casa_De_Rey-Bogota.htmlThat place on 7 and 22 is AWESOME!
Bango Cheito
01-10-24, 01:30
You're correct for dinner. Not a lot but not sure of your taste and budget. There's a pizza / pasta place (Archie's) below the hotel which is honestly kinda mediocre. Right across from Ibis are 2-3 restaurants on Transverse 6. Okay'ish Asian at la lonchera. Nice enough for a quick meal. Not really for a date. Restaurant republik looks good for a date type thing though I've never been inside just looks nice from the outside. If you're okay with pub food there's a BBC just up the road from them both with some great craft beers. There's a really cute street Calle 30 going up to the La Perseverencia market (which itself is fantastic but only open for breakfast / lunch). That little stretch of Calle 30 is really an up and coming, trendy, restaurant row type area but I believe they're only for the lunch hours. You'the have to check. If they do dinner then that little stretch has about 8-10 restaurants and would be perfect.There are a ton of places right next to the Ibis too actually, and a Wok just up the road right behind the museum.
That place on 7 and 22 is AWESOME!
I personally like LaCelestina. A great variety of pretty girls! Website: lacelestina. Co.
Plenty of great places downtown-.
Casadelrey on KR 7 and Calle 22, a great restaurant, Huge--in an early 20th century building-- attached is a coffee bar, good burger joint, taco house, sushi joint, and a sausage place. They have their own bakery.
There are 3 bakerys down the street on 22-- On kr 7 several parrillas and Florida bakery -restaurant which is a good white linen type restaurant -- And much more south and there is a new Mexican place I saw on kr5 near Bacata.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g294074-d20283494-Reviews-Casa_De_Rey-Bogota.htmlAll this restaurant talk has me craving a Bogota Santa Fe trip. I live KR 7 I used to go over there all the time, I'd also recommend SBA broasters for some very good fried chicken, it's right there on KR 7 near CL 22.
Theres also some very good Chinese food places on CL 22 as well. KR 7 is the main tourist / pedestrian strip and has various restaurants and bars. Another must try place for. Fried chicken fanatics is Alitas Colombians about a 10 minute walk to the North.
There's is also a McDonald's nearby and a Centro Comercial with various restaurants inside I believe an argentinian steakhouse as well as an Italian place too.
Another sucker has been scoped and robbed, this time in Bogota.
https://youtu.be/v4t1qkd3Pjs?si=cCf7LB8R7b4B-24W
Follow Along.
Is it just the US tourists or inflation plays a role also? Things has become more expensive all over the world in the last 3-4 years.
Back in 2019, girls were doing overnights for 400.000 COP and now they are demanding 200 USD min, but price in USD.
I will be traveling to Bogota for the first time and have started contacting the independent escorts. Is it a red flag if a girl can't meet you at your hotel and requires you to meet at their casa?
There are a ton of places right next to the Ibis too actually, and a Wok just up the road right behind the museum.Like DaVinci was saying behind the museum / wok restaurant there are some real good restaurants on 29/30. The best was:
Restaurante why chocolateria Yoconta.
CL. 30 #5 - 82 Local 1, Bogot, Colombia.
They're only open until late afternoon but the food was so good / popular they had to open a 2nd restaurant next door called yocanta 2.
I did find one spot on the street over open for dinner that was excellent name is Turmequ Bar why Cocina Bogot on Calle 29. There's an Italian spot just up the hill from there that looked great I just didn't have time to try it, but it's on the list for my March trip. Name is Restaurante Aria.
Elvis 2008
01-10-24, 15:25
but I know some that do think long term, even the street hookers, eg they are regularly exchanging up money to usd and saving that up to buy a house in Venezuela, or another that has a child and invests in his education, taking him up to various extra classes etc. Some, as they approach their 30's and see reduced income enroll in classes then, to try be veterinarians, nurses etc.Johnnie, it sounds like you have heard hookers talking long term, but some of the stuff you mention like classes or buying a house, you did not personally see right? I had been in the sugar game a long time, and in the forums everywhere, you will see guys say that turning a stripper / hooker into a long term sugar baby let alone a GF is a losing proposition. Getting them gifts, like this guy did, will not be appreciated unlike with real sugar babies or a GF.
The one successful hooker I knew personally who got out of the biz and ran her own business really was not independent. She had a sugar daddy on the side.
Thing is when I mentioned looking for long term, I was actually thinking this gal was a bad long term partner more because she was Venezuelan than a hooker. The hooker part for me was a given, but your post made me want to look more into the why hookers are bad long term partners.
There was a fascinating video on youtube of a guy who ran a brothel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9kQuy90OGM.
I found the guy to be honest, logical, and a straight shooter. He only hired woman new to the business and only kept them in the business for a year. In his book, he described successful hookers who were millionaires but were so addicted to money they could not leave the business even in their 50's.
Then there was this from a woman who really was a hooker. Granted, she had an agenda. https://psyche.co/ideas/the-reality-of-prostitution-is-not-complex-it-is-simple.
Prostitution is not sex and it's not work. Its reality is far from complex in fact, it's simple. Trust me, I've done it. The truth is, there was no 'work' involved in what was done to us in prostitution. Prostitution is neither sex nor work.
During my last 10 years campaigning, I have sometimes been asked by women what prostitution 'feels like'. I hit on a way of explaining this some years ago, and have repeated it a few times since. I invite them, the next time they are in a caf or a bar, to take a look around at the male patrons. Old, young, fat, thin, tall, short, handsome, ugly, beautiful, repulsive and imagine that they are obliged to have sex with them. All of them. The women's faces turn to horror because they don't need to imagine; they know full well that they'the have no interest in sleeping with whoever happens to walk through the door. At the most basic level, having our personal space breached by a stranger causes a stress reaction. Sex does not just involve mutuality; it necessitates it. The sex of prostitution is devoid of mutuality, and cash is introduced to fill the breach.
The brothel operator said the same thing: And one year is the time limit where it is not enough time to damage you psychologically for good, you can still reverse the damage, however, you run the risk of irreversible psychological damage if you stayed in this business longer than one year. Making big money is addicting, you do not want to fall into the trap of getting used to making this type of money.
I had never thought of a hooker as damaged goods. That sounds a little judgmental to me, but I found it interesting that both of these two people mentioned it.
I wish I could I say that I went the sugar route because I was concerned for the damage being done to women. There were two main drivers for me. The first and morally worse reason was the sex was better. The other was the feeling of emptiness after paying the hooker and having her leave. Even the rare times when you had this passionate intimate experience, it was like the women put back up this wall and said this was all about the money. I did not feel that emptiness with a sugar baby. With sugar babies, the women were in no hurry to leave, and I did not want them to go.
People make fun of sugaring versus seeing a hooker. They say it is the same thing, sex for money, but I knew it was different. That mutuality the former hooker talks about is intact in a sugar relationship whereas it is not with hookers. I read in a different book that women who are mistresses of married men look for the same qualities in the married man that they do in a partner. So while there is sex for money, like sugaring, it is not all sex for money, and that prevents or more likely lessens the damage.
Anyway, Johnnie, thanks for the post. It made me think, and I wanted clarity on this subject.
Bango Cheito
01-10-24, 16:23
Is it just the US tourists or inflation plays a role also? Things has become more expensive all over the world in the last 3-4 years.Sometimes no inflation at all. IF you speak Spanish and operate like a local.
An amanecida for 400 k still sounds expensive to me in 2024. You can still get it for 300 k or less easily.
My advice, if someone starts to negotiate with you in USD, just walk away.
That place on 7 and 22 is AWESOME!Great ambiance and decor-- and great steaks for great prices-- lotsa variety too.
They worked on it for 2+ years a colonial style business building that was falling down with pidgeons roosting in it-.
Prelude141
01-10-24, 17:33
I will be traveling to Bogota for the first time and have started contacting the independent escorts. Is it a red flag if a girl can't meet you at your hotel and requires you to meet at their casa?It can be.
Just wait to be there and visit the casas and clubs, that should cover your needs.
Forget anything online to be honest unless you want to get in potential trouble. Even tinder is not advised for the newbies. People get drugged and kidnap easily. Newbie is written on your face and obvious in your messaging when you don't have any experience there.
Bango Cheito
01-11-24, 00:21
I would respectfully ask you to delete this and re-post it there, where the proper discussion can ensue around it. This is the Bogotá forum.
Johnnie, it sounds like you have heard hookers talking long term, but some of the stuff you mention like classes or buying a house, you did not personally see right? I had been in the sugar game a long time, and in the forums everywhere, you will see guys say that turning a stripper / hooker into a long term sugar baby let alone a GF is a losing proposition. Getting them gifts, like this guy did, will not be appreciated unlike with real sugar babies or a GF.
The one successful hooker I knew personally who got out of the biz and ran her own business really was not independent. She had a sugar daddy on the side.
Thing is when I mentioned looking for long term, I was actually thinking this gal was a bad long term partner more because she was Venezuelan than a hooker. The hooker part for me was a given, but your post made me want to look more into the why hookers are bad long term partners.
There was a fascinating video on youtube of a guy who ran a brothel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9kQuy90OGM.
I found the guy to be honest, logical, and a straight shooter. He only hired woman new to the business and only kept them in the business for a year. In his book, he described successful hookers who were millionaires but were so addicted to money they could not leave the business even in their 50's.
Then there was this from a woman who really was a hooker. Granted, she had an agenda. https://psyche.co/ideas/the-reality-of-prostitution-is-not-complex-it-is-simple.
Prostitution is not sex and it's not work. Its reality is far from complex in fact, it's simple. Trust me, I've done it. The truth is, there was no 'work' involved in what was done to us in prostitution. Prostitution is neither sex nor work.
During my last 10 years campaigning, I have sometimes been asked by women what prostitution 'feels like'. I hit on a way of explaining this some years ago, and have repeated it a few times since. I invite them, the next time they are in a caf or a bar, to take a look around at the male patrons. Old, young, fat, thin, tall, short, handsome, ugly, beautiful, repulsive and imagine that they are obliged to have sex with them. All of them. The women's faces turn to horror because they don't need to imagine; they know full well that they'the have no interest in sleeping with whoever happens to walk through the door. At the most basic level, having our personal space breached by a stranger causes a stress reaction. Sex does not just involve mutuality; it necessitates it. The sex of prostitution is devoid of mutuality, and cash is introduced to fill the breach.
The brothel operator said the same thing: And one year is the time limit where it is not enough time to damage you psychologically for good, you can still reverse the damage, however, you run the risk of irreversible psychological damage if you stayed in this business longer than one year. Making big money is addicting, you do not want to fall into the trap of getting used to making this type of money.
I had never thought of a hooker as damaged goods. That sounds a little judgmental to me, but I found it interesting that both of these two people mentioned it.
I wish I could I say that I went the sugar route because I was concerned for the damage being done to women. There were two main drivers for me. The first and morally worse reason was the sex was better. The other was the feeling of emptiness after paying the hooker and having her leave. Even the rare times when you had this passionate intimate experience, it was like the women put back up this wall and said this was all about the money. I did not feel that emptiness with a sugar baby. With sugar babies, the women were in no hurry to leave, and I did not want them to go.
People make fun of sugaring versus seeing a hooker. They say it is the same thing, sex for money, but I knew it was different. That mutuality the former hooker talks about is intact in a sugar relationship whereas it is not with hookers. I read in a different book that women who are mistresses of married men look for the same qualities in the married man that they do in a partner. So while there is sex for money, like sugaring, it is not all sex for money, and that prevents or more likely lessens the damage.
Anyway, Johnnie, thanks for the post. It made me think, and I wanted clarity on this subject.
SankarShetty
01-11-24, 17:36
I do think there are options that are good for dinner. A good number of them are open until 9 or 10 pm everyday but closed on sundays by 4 or 5 pm which is a bummer.
Thanks for all the suggestions though.
Like DaVinci was saying behind the museum / wok restaurant there are some real good restaurants on 29/30. The best was:
Restaurante why chocolateria Yoconta.
CL. 30 #5 - 82 Local 1, Bogot, Colombia.
They're only open until late afternoon but the food was so good / popular they had to open a 2nd restaurant next door called yocanta 2.
I did find one spot on the street over open for dinner that was excellent name is Turmequ Bar why Cocina Bogot on Calle 29. There's an Italian spot just up the hill from there that looked great I just didn't have time to try it, but it's on the list for my March trip. Name is Restaurante Aria.
SankarShetty
01-11-24, 23:17
I have so many great options now. But unfortunately my 'night near the airport' falls on the Sunday where everything closes by 5 pm.
Nevertheless, will have to do a good eating tour of this area on my next trip to the city.
Casadelrey on KR 7 and Calle 22, a great restaurant, Huge--in an early 20th century building-- attached is a coffee bar, good burger joint, taco house, sushi joint, and a sausage place. They have their own bakery. ].
Couple of months ago, a newbie poster wrote a very good write-up. Someone should have put that on a link to the Reports of Distinction.
He stated that he had no problems getting Uber from Santa Fe.
He must have gotten a Comfort Level or higher level ride.
I found that out on my last trip. If you pay for the higher level ride (double to triple the price), then they come fast. It is still extremely hard to get a ride on the lowest level Uber ride from Santa Fe. The Uber system is broken.
I usually just check the prices on Uber, and then I use InDrive.
Someone also reported a mugging late at night, after the main strip-joints closed, when he was walking to his Uber. Note that Uber cannot pick you up in the street that has the main entrances to the strip-joints. He should have just used the taxis that are parked in front of the strip-joints.
I only stayed past the closing time of the main strip-joints once. I felt leery; the street was getting empty. I took the taxi parked in front. Just pay the extra money. All other times, I feel safe when the street is full of people.
JohnnyWishBone
01-13-24, 15:12
Sometimes no inflation at all. IF you speak Spanish and operate like a local.
An amanecida for 400 k still sounds expensive to me in 2024. You can still get it for 300 k or less easily.
My advice, if someone starts to negotiate with you in USD, just walk away.Bango is right regarding USD negotiations. Give the girl one chance to negotiate in COP then walk away. Competition is high in Bogota and there are lots of girls to choose from. Many have said this before, but give the girls silent treatment if they do not agree to your fee. Many will come back and agree to your demands.
As for overnights, I tend to see the girls for an hour beforehand to sample and they know who I am. More often than not, they agree to negotiated fee and period. But the main message is, keep it to COP and never in an other currency.
JohnnyWishBone
01-13-24, 15:21
That is only if you do not know what you should be paying. If someone tells you 500 K and you say ok then that is your own damn fault. If you say jajaja claro que no: 120 k, that is a different story. If you have a decent command of Spanish and know what the hell you are talking about, then you should not even have a problem if you are messaging from the moon.True, but I think having a local number helps.
JohnnieCash
01-13-24, 17:02
Johnnie, it sounds like you have heard hookers talking long term, but some of the stuff you mention like classes or buying a house, you did not personally see right?.I wouldn't post hearsay without saying it is such. I do know the classes are real because she's been posting photos on WhatsApp and telling me what's happening there plus I've seen her posting in mom-group chat they have set up for it.
As for the one buying a house, I've been with her to the cambios (BTW I couldn't believe how cheap is to buy a house in Venezuela). She doesn't have the full amount yet and whether she won't blow it on something else or her family will get to it, the time will tell, it's difficult to for any young person to sit on pile of money and not touch it, but it's her way to keep this money mentally 'unspendable' here.
I also know casa girl who decided to quit at 22 and started selling street food and some homemade desserts to panaderia, she's been posting videos of her stand and food, and I've eaten the desserts, but I'm yet to visit her stand. She has still some regulars but only of her choice and seems to prefer company and taking care of animals for long term. Casa girls work can be tough though, they must fuck whether they like it or not, best they could do to try to avoid it is to be cold during presentation. The most damage there is to their own ideas of self-wroth. She couldn't take it any more. She's been in a good situation being able to live with her parents and not having to pay rent so could afford not to work for a while, but then they kicked her out after some time.
Another casa girls posts updates from veterinary school.
Another 19 yo plans to enroll to be a police women, but I doubt that will happen any time soon, since she pulls good money and likes to party, but certainly can't shut up about it.
Or a webcam girl which is paying for evening English classes out of her pocket, even though the money is tight, I don't session with her anymore but sometimes still meet her for language exchange and she's improving (no thanks to me).
Anyway, the point is, yes, they can think long term while being hookers, which doesn't mean they are relationship material or that their long term includes a plan to have an exclusive relationship with one man, they are often happy with just raising a child, especially if it's a boy, have plenty of friends and family for their social needs and just juggle many men supporting them.
Not to mention this is Latin America, exclusive relationships do not seem to be the big thing here and many men just impregnate and move on the basis of 'well, it was her decision to have a child, not my problem now', and even if they don't, there isn't that much money coming in anyway considering local salaries. Just the other day I met a Venezuelan mechanic in his 50's that was looking for chicas. He has 12 children with 3 different women. One of his sons, approaching 30's was sitting next to him, also looking for chicas, he has 4 children with 2 different women already.
Casa No Va
01-13-24, 17:29
True, but I think having a local number helps.When I'm contacting girls on sites for independents, non agency. ID say at least half are still being answered by their boss at the casa they work at. Prices and extras usually listed in ad. But the true independent hot girls that answer their own publications definitely pay way more attention to the US numbers coming in. They'd rather hook a gringo at their going rate listed and add adicionales and repeat repeat and then convince you to come back and visit. Some girls even advertise they only see foreigners and not locals. So not sure where your logic is coming from. I speak Spanish, I'm from US and I just do my due diligence to know the going rates.
Just keep your profile pic generic, or a cartoon or something. And block them from your stories.
How's Bogota for semi-pros / GFE / Seeking. I've only ever visited Medellin and Cartagena.
I prefer GFE / semi-pros. I had my best experiences using dating apps in those cities around 2017-18. I now no longer use the apps due to scoping risk, and I didn't have much fun in medellin last time, back in 2017 I had hundreds of chicas trying to meet me, now it seems like they're numb to tourists and chicas felt way harder to get, almost like miami where they have so many options (and now medellin is flooded with gringos, they do). And I was on edge because of all the scopings, I could no longer relax.
How is Bogota, both for dating app safety and not being one of a million gringos trying to get attention?
SAInterested
01-14-24, 23:35
I took a taxi to Rosquillas Bar 64 this afternoon around 1:30 pm And it appeared dead on the street, so I did not even get out of the taxi to go check.
Any casas open for sure on Sunday?
Thanks.
MongerHunger
01-16-24, 10:34
I took a taxi to Rosquillas Bar 64 this afternoon around 1:30 pm And it appeared dead on the street, so I did not even get out of the taxi to go check.
Any casas open for sure on Sunday?
Thanks.Yes, all three Casas on that stretch of Calle 64 were open on Sunday. I was in the area around that same time. The street was quiet but you should have noticed the 2 guys out front of the other two casas. They will tell you to come inside. All three locations had their doors cracked open. Also you may have noticed there was a guy washing down the side of an office building with a water hose on the same side of the street near the casas if you went by there at the time you stated.
Bogota is a big ass city with a lot of options. Paid, semi-pros, and GFE. But Bogota does come with it own set issues. Traffic, robberies etc. Is it still worth it? Yes!
How's Bogota for semi-pros / GFE / Seeking. I've only ever visited Medellin and Cartagena.
I prefer GFE / semi-pros. I had my best experiences using dating apps in those cities around 2017-18. I now no longer use the apps due to scoping risk, and I didn't have much fun in medellin last time, back in 2017 I had hundreds of chicas trying to meet me, now it seems like they're numb to tourists and chicas felt way harder to get, almost like miami where they have so many options (and now medellin is flooded with gringos, they do). And I was on edge because of all the scopings, I could no longer relax.
How is Bogota, both for dating app safety and not being one of a million gringos trying to get attention?
Been trying to make my way through pages and pages of reports but not finding much.
I prefer to deal with delivery service. Not into the bar scene or street scene. Looking for solid information on reputable agencies or ladies.
Also I see a lot of Colombian ladies on a site LiveJasmin.com Any info on where these young ladies might work for sex service?
Thanks in advance.
Been trying to make my way through pages and pages of reports but not finding much.
I prefer to deal with delivery service. Not into the bar scene or street scene. Looking for solid information on reputable agencies or ladies.
Also I see a lot of Colombian ladies on a site LiveJasmin.com Any info on where these young ladies might work for sex service?
Thanks in advance.I don't use escorts but my friend comes to town frequently and uses.
https://lacelestina.co/
He is in good with them and get's real photos unblurred from the management-.
Also many daytime brothels to pre qualify for outside dates.
Good Luck!!
How's Bogota for semi-pros / GFE / Seeking. I've only ever visited Medellin and Cartagena.
I prefer GFE / semi-pros. I had my best experiences using dating apps in those cities around 2017-18. I now no longer use the apps due to scoping risk, and I didn't have much fun in medellin last time, back in 2017 I had hundreds of chicas trying to meet me, now it seems like they're numb to tourists and chicas felt way harder to get, almost like miami where they have so many options (and now medellin is flooded with gringos, they do). And I was on edge because of all the scopings, I could no longer relax.
How is Bogota, both for dating app safety and not being one of a million gringos trying to get attention?How are they going to want to meet you if you're not on the apps?
Personally I think as long as you're not partying / drinking and taking all the necessary precautions, the risks aren't that much higher than they were before. There's always going to be scams and bad actors, and that applies everywhere. Always move the convo to Whatsapp as fast as possible and get to know them for a day or two at least before meeting up immediately.
How are they going to want to meet you if you're not on the apps?
Personally I think as long as you're not partying / drinking and taking all the necessary precautions, the risks aren't that much higher than they were before. There's always going to be scams and bad actors, and that applies everywhere. Always move the convo to Whatsapp as fast as possible and get to know them for a day or two at least before meeting up immediately.I did use apps just to check it out, but had no intention on meeting up at bars then to my airbnb like before. And in general around Medellin, say at the malls I felt women used to stare and be interested in gringos, now it's like they've seen many. I suppose that's what happens. I was curious if Bogota is less spoiled. But being a big city probably brings diversity with it anyway.
Mr Enternational
01-18-24, 03:18
How are they going to want to meet you if you're not on the apps?
Personally I think as long as you're not partying / drinking and taking all the necessary precautions, the risks aren't that much higher than they were before. There's always going to be scams and bad actors, and that applies everywhere. Always move the convo to Whatsapp as fast as possible and get to know them for a day or two at least before meeting up immediately.And that will more than likely be a hooker. Normal chicks have jobs and other responsibilities and usually can not meet up immediately like that. You can tell the scammers and hookers right off from the pictures. It is like playing the game one of these kids are doing their own thing. If you know the place, then the pics do not fit.
I did use apps just to check it out, but had no intention on meeting up at bars then to my airbnb like before. And in general around Medellin, say at the malls I felt women used to stare and be interested in gringos, now it's like they've seen many. I suppose that's what happens. I was curious if Bogota is less spoiled. But being a big city probably brings diversity with it anyway.Not sure. I'm in Villavicencio right now (about 3.5 hours from Bogota by bus) and I'm a decent looking guy but literally no one looks at me or cares. I don't scream "gringo" but well I'm definitely a white guy from the states. I haven't seen any other gringos at all. Maybe it's because the city is basically on the other side of Bogota and there's nothing beyond here really. But everything here is super cheap and air conditioning is apparently a luxury even though it gets up to 90 in the day. Madness.
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For Gabaucho- I remember you talking about liking fried chicken.
Very Popular. They moved from Calle 22 and KR16 a-- but you can still order if in the area-- I tried to find them but got lost in the Santa Fe maze.
Hola!! 😊, Somos.
🍗Chick Broaster🍗.
El Mejor Pollo Broaster.
MENU: https://wa.me/c/573213211019.
Para pedir indcanos:
⚪Tu Pedido Con 🍟Francesa o Criolla?:
⚪Direcciand 🏠:
⚪Nombre de quien recibe:
🟡No. De Celular 📲 (Donde podamos Llamarte al Entregar):
✅ Un Asesor te atender en un momento, Para confirmar tu pedido.
Pedido Minimo: $ 10.000.
Domicilio: $ 1. 500.
🕙128345; En promedio tarda de 40 a 60 min Dependiendo la demanda why el Trfico O antes si es posible.I'm going to be in Bogota next month bro.
I also want to try that shawarma place you keep mentioning. I'll have to try chick broster too. I know back when I fist came to Bogota there was a place called chicken hell LOL. I like SBA broster on Cra 7 and Calle 22 as well as Alitas Colombianas man the alitas finas hierbas with their garlic sauce for the fries and a jarra of BBC Cajica beer to wash it all down is fucking superb. I'll msg you when I'm there maybe we can kick it. I don't need the tour obviously but I wouldn't mind getting a beer and shooting the shit.
-Gabacho.
How's Bogota for semi-pros / GFE / Seeking. I've only ever visited Medellin and Cartagena.
I prefer GFE / semi-pros. I had my best experiences using dating apps in those cities around 2017-18. I now no longer use the apps due to scoping risk, and I didn't have much fun in medellin last time, back in 2017 I had hundreds of chicas trying to meet me, now it seems like they're numb to tourists and chicas felt way harder to get, almost like miami where they have so many options (and now medellin is flooded with gringos, they do). And I was on edge because of all the scopings, I could no longer relax.
How is Bogota, both for dating app safety and not being one of a million gringos trying to get attention?Any special interest girls in Medellin may have had for Gringos has been gone for over a decade. We're all over Poblado and a few other areas now and a lot of non-pros don't even want to be seen with an obvious tourist.
It's probably worth checking out another city which hasn't been overrun with foreigners. But it's also possible you're just older now. My first visit to Colombia (Cartagena in 2001), I had girls all over me, pro and non-pro. It's a distant memory now and a bit depressing the way the years can take away from your attractiveness to women. OTOH, you can just focus on pros and pay a pittance and not waste time with non-pros.
Not sure. I'm in Villavicencio right now (about 3.5 hours from Bogota by bus) and I'm a decent looking guy but literally no one looks at me or cares. I don't scream "gringo" but well I'm definitely a white guy from the states. I haven't seen any other gringos at all. Maybe it's because the city is basically on the other side of Bogota and there's nothing beyond here really. But everything here is super cheap and air conditioning is apparently a luxury even though it gets up to 90 in the day. Madness.I like Villavicencio or Villao as the locals call ity. I was there back in February and I stayed at a hotel right across from the exito grocery store. It was real cheap like 35 mil pesos per day for the hotel and it was actually pretty decent. No air-conditioning but it had these big ass windows right by the bed that let the breeze in and a strong fan blowing directly at the bed too so when I was laying down it felt good and a slept well.
There's some action around parque El Acha I fucked like 3 chicas from there. 2 were skinny spinner type vennies that I found very attractive. Going rate was 40 mil plus the room one girl did BBFS for an extra 50 mil and with another one the condom broke and I busted inside her "on accident" LOL but she didn't seem to really care I think I gave her an extra 20 mil because of it.
The town itself is nice. There is a restaurant called Mi llanerita tradicional they have the best tenera a la llanera there and great prices I think with a pound of steak and limonade and everything and it was like 25 mil or something.
The town is very walkable but the heat is pretty bad between 1 pm to 5 pm best to walk around and explore in the morning up until around 11 or 12 noon and then rest in the hotel room and go back out again around 6 pm as the sun is going down and there is a nice breeze. There was an empanada cart like 2 blocks from the exito and they had the best empanadas and only cost like 1500 cop each and they had like 20 different sauces to go with them. I never felt unsafe there even at night.
-Gabacho.
I like Villavicencio or Villao as the locals call ity. I was there back in February and I stayed at a hotel right across from the exito grocery store. It was real cheap like 35 mil pesos per day for the hotel and it was actually pretty decent. No air-conditioning but it had these big ass windows right by the bed that let the breeze in and a strong fan blowing directly at the bed too so when I was laying down it felt good and a slept well........Hotel had wifi?
Hotel had wifi?Yessir, decent speed wifi, 43 inch flat screen with cable, strong fan mounted on the wall, and Luke warm shower LOL.
Hotel had wifi?I just looked it up on Google for you or anyone else interested in visiting this weekend getaway destination that's 3 hours by bus from Bogota (terminal salitre).
The hotel is called Hotel Serrania Real and the address is.
CLL 37 A # 29 - 63, Villavicencio, Meta Colombia. And as I stated it is right across the street from an exito grocery store and has various restaurants and street food nearby and is about 2 or 3 blocks from parque El Hacha where you can find street girls from 40 k - 50 k.
Here's some screenshots. When I stayed there it was 35 mil per day looks like Google says it is 44 mil now but I'd call and verify because Google often has the prices wrong.
Again the hotel has fast wifi, flat screen HDTV with cable and you can also hook up your laptop with an hdmi cable if you watch TV that way, had good fan, and while didn't have hot water but the cold water would come out luke warm especially if you take your shower mid morning thru mid afternoon.
World Travel 69
01-20-24, 17:51
I put it on the Map.
Chicken Broaster.
4°09'00.0"and 73°37'59.9"W.
Calle 36 #27-129 a 27-1, Villavicencio, Meta, Colombia.
For Gabaucho- I remember you talking about liking fried chicken.
Very Popular. They moved from Calle 22 and KR16 a-- but you can still order if in the area-- I tried to find them but got lost in the Santa Fe maze.
🕙128345; En promedio tarda de 40 a 60 min Dependiendo la demanda why el Trfico O antes si es posible.
I put it on the Map.
Chicken Broaster.
409'00.0"and 7337'59.9"W.
Calle 36 #27-129 a 27-1, Villavicencio, Meta, Colombia.Chix Broaster is a shop in Santa Fe area very popular-.
They moved from Calle 22 - See map in link- Also on rappi and they deliver too --En didi food, RAPPI.
O Escribenos al: 321 321 1019.
I think I will order today-- It's so good 20 mil for a half and fries.
http://chickbroaster.com/inicio.html
Writing this on a Saturday night in my room at Ibis museo and despite FOMO of not being down in SF, it's kinda nice to enjoy a nice meal and just chill out in the hotel after a very busy few days. I'll be brief as my reports often go long.
Safety: Won't go into safety as I've written about it before. But once again I never felt unsafe. I'the routinely walk to SF from the Ibis between 7:30-8:30 pm. My preferred route was to just go down the walking street of Carrera 7 which is always busy with people to Calle 22 and then follow it all the way in. After midnight I suppose you could walk back but with the streets being a lot more deserted and the taxis plentiful outside the clubs and cheap why bother walking.
Taxis: plane arrived at 7 pm into eldorado so by the time I got to IBis I didn't want to waste time so did Indrive down to SF for my first night. Wednesday. Multiple drivers wanted 10,400 so I just took that as my base taxi fare and did 15 k total with tip. After each night the taxis are plentiful on the road where all the clubs are on. Just walk out and tell a mesero you want a taxi and you shall get one. Last time I was in SF one driver wanted 20 k for the ride from the clubs to hotel ibis and seeing that it was about 2 am then I just did it. This time though every driver was happy with my 15 k.
SG's: plenty of them and some very cute ones. Sometimes the girl will also come into the clubs. I didn't take any SG's but again it's not because there weren't any cute ones I just enjoy the ambience and ease of just having as many cute girls in the clubs. For those that like the SG price though you won't be disappointed. There were a range from young to old, slim to chunky, petite to tall.
Clubs:
I'm a barhopper. I'll typically buy a poker or water at each place and by the time I've drunk it I'll know what girls are there and the vibe. Fiebre never disappointed. Troya this time came 2nd to fiebre but often times the girls would switch between the two clubs. Antones is always fun for girls and they have a bit more of the girl next door type ones. Paisas disappointed this time and the girls for me were all either older or bigger. Didn't make it into Venus this time.
Wednesday: Banged a girl in Antones. Don't remember the name. Said she was 24 but she looked younger. A little thicker than I usually like them but had big nice puffy nipples which as her tits we're already small almost covered the whole things. Fingering, DATY, BJ covered and kisses with no tongue. Always fun to look down in doggy and her wetness turning into that lovely cream over the condom. After seeing that and her gripping the sheets I busted in her doggy. $100 k with tip all up $120 k (roughly $35 usd give or take).
Thursday: Banged a girl in Troya. Also saw her in fiebre. Estefania or stefania?? Very slim, tall, young looking brunette. I like them slim so she ticked all the boxes. At first I wanted a dance but then she said 120 k. I said no I'm waiting for friends then I'll find her (a lie. I just didn't want to pay 120) and then she immediately said 100 so I was like sure LOL. Also fun. In the room I wanted a BBBJ so she wanted another 50 k which I'm fine with. I'm a sucker for DATY and her pussy was particularly nice to look at and so I spent most of the time DATY and fingering, 69'ing. Finished in cowgirl. Total $150 k plus tip of $50 as I didn't have any smaller bills. Total: 200 k (about $50-60 usd).
Fri: There is probably the tiniest girl in Fiebre at the moment. Saw her the past two nights but she seemed cold, on the phone, never made eye contact with anyone, etc but damn she is tiny. If you're into tiny girls that fit that classic "she might break" if you pound them too hard she will be right up your alley. I decided F it, I'll take one for the team and there no way I'm leaving Bogota without having some of it even if she's also cold in the room. Anyways, her names Daniella. 22 yrs old, Colombian, brunette with green eyes (can't tell if they're natural or fake). She is the tiniest, thinnest girl in the club. For me that's my type. I realize for others she may not be yours. She quoted 150. I asked 100 and she said no and so F it I took it. Upstairs we go. She seemed lost and confused and seeing as though I hadn't seen her go up with anyone the last 2 nights I'm guessing she may not be a frequent one going upstairs. Spent plenty of time sucking on her nipples which had gotten hard and on her tiny pussy fingering. She also allowed some light anal play but stopped me from fingering it. But as to be expected there's always a snag. Her BJ skills sucked with the condom on. She hardly moved her head and I had to try and ram it. I couldn't stay hard because she just put her mouth on the tip and so asked for BBBJ which she said 100 k for and like a sucker because her body is completely my type and knowing I'm overpaying I said yes. Didn't actually do any different and so instead just decided to try and ram it into her mouth as many times as I could while in 69. She did allow some vigorous fingering while in 69. Oh well. Lesson learned. All in 250 k no tip.
Ended Friday in Troya and banged a short cute vennie. BBBJ, covered sex, fingering, DATY and busting in her mouth for $120. Tip of 30 k for a total of 150 k.
Also had numerous dances in each club which I have questions about for the regulars there but I'll put that in another post as this ones getting long.
Thank you Santa Fe.
Prelude141
01-21-24, 12:09
Writing this on a Saturday night in my room at Ibis museo and despite FOMO of not being down in SF, it's kinda nice to enjoy a nice meal and just chill out in the hotel after a very busy few days. I'll be brief as my reports often go long.
Safety: Won't go into safety as I've written about it before. But once again I never felt unsafe. I'the routinely walk to SF from the Ibis between 7:30-8:30 pm. My preferred route was to just go down the walking street of Carrera 7 which is always busy with people to Calle 22 and then follow it all the way in. After midnight I suppose you could walk back but with the streets being a lot more deserted and the taxis plentiful outside the clubs and cheap why bother walking.
Taxis: plane arrived at 7 pm into eldorado so by the time I got to IBis I didn't want to waste time so did Indrive down to SF for my first night. Wednesday. Multiple drivers wanted 10,400 so I just took that as my base taxi fare and did 15 k total with tip. After each night the taxis are plentiful on the road where all the clubs are on. Just walk out and tell a mesero you want a taxi and you shall get one. Last time I was in SF one driver wanted 20 k for the ride from the clubs to hotel ibis and seeing that it was about 2 am then I just did it. This time though every driver was happy with my 15 k.
SG's: plenty of them and some very cute ones. Sometimes the girl will also come into the clubs. I didn't take any SG's but again it's not because there weren't any cute ones I just enjoy the ambience and ease of just having as many cute girls in the clubs. For those that like the SG price though you won't be disappointed. There were a range from young to old, slim to chunky, petite to tall.
Clubs:
I'm a barhopper. I'll typically buy a poker or water at each place and by the time I've drunk it I'll know what girls are there and the vibe. Fiebre never disappointed. Troya this time came 2nd to fiebre but often times the girls would switch between the two clubs. Antones is always fun for girls and they have a bit more of the girl next door type ones. Paisas disappointed this time and the girls for me were all either older or bigger. Didn't make it into Venus this time.
Wednesday: Banged a girl in Antones. Don't remember the name. Said she was 24 but she looked younger. A little thicker than I usually like them but had big nice puffy nipples which as her tits we're already small almost covered the whole things. Fingering, DATY, BJ covered and kisses with no tongue. Always fun to look down in doggy and her wetness turning into that lovely cream over the condom. After seeing that and her gripping the sheets I busted in her doggy. $100 k with tip all up $120 k (roughly $35 usd give or take).
Thursday: Banged a girl in Troya. Also saw her in fiebre. Estefania or stefania?? Very slim, tall, young looking brunette. I like them slim so she ticked all the boxes. At first I wanted a dance but then she said 120 k. I said no I'm waiting for friends then I'll find her (a lie. I just didn't want to pay 120) and then she immediately said 100 so I was like sure LOL. Also fun. In the room I wanted a BBBJ so she wanted another 50 k which I'm fine with. I'm a sucker for DATY and her pussy was particularly nice to look at and so I spent most of the time DATY and fingering, 69'ing. Finished in cowgirl. Total $150 k plus tip of $50 as I didn't have any smaller bills. Total: 200 k (about $50-60 usd).
Fri: There is probably the tiniest girl in Fiebre at the moment. Saw her the past two nights but she seemed cold, on the phone, never made eye contact with anyone, etc but damn she is tiny. If you're into tiny girls that fit that classic "she might break" if you pound them too hard she will be right up your alley. I decided F it, I'll take one for the team and there no way I'm leaving Bogota without having some of it even if she's also cold in the room. Anyways, her names Daniella. 22 yrs old, Colombian, brunette with green eyes (can't tell if they're natural or fake). She is the tiniest, thinnest girl in the club. For me that's my type. I realize for others she may not be yours. She quoted 150. I asked 100 and she said no and so F it I took it. Upstairs we go. She seemed lost and confused and seeing as though I hadn't seen her go up with anyone the last 2 nights I'm guessing she may not be a frequent one going upstairs. Spent plenty of time sucking on her nipples which had gotten hard and on her tiny pussy fingering. She also allowed some light anal play but stopped me from fingering it. But as to be expected there's always a snag. Her BJ skills sucked with the condom on. She hardly moved her head and I had to try and ram it. I couldn't stay hard because she just put her mouth on the tip and so asked for BBBJ which she said 100 k for and like a sucker because her body is completely my type and knowing I'm overpaying I said yes. Didn't actually do any different and so instead just decided to try and ram it into her mouth as many times as I could while in 69. She did allow some vigorous fingering while in 69. Oh well. Lesson learned. All in 250 k no tip.
Ended Friday in Troya and banged a short cute vennie. BBBJ, covered sex, fingering, DATY and busting in her mouth for $120. Tip of 30 k for a total of 150 k.
Also had numerous dances in each club which I have questions about for the regulars there but I'll put that in another post as this ones getting long.
Thank you Santa Fe.Nice report but you consently overpay. You are the sole responsible for the rate increase that is happening everywhere.
JohnnyWishBone
01-21-24, 12:24
Writing this on a Saturday night in my room at Ibis museo and despite FOMO of not being down in SF, it's kinda nice to enjoy a nice meal and just chill out in the hotel after a very busy few days. I'll be brief as my reports often go long.
Safety: Won't go into safety as I've written about it before. But once again I never felt unsafe. I'the routinely walk to SF from the Ibis between 7:30-8:30 pm. My preferred route was to just go down the walking street of Carrera 7 which is always busy with people to Calle 22 and then follow it all the way in. After midnight I suppose you could walk back but with the streets being a lot more deserted and the taxis plentiful outside the clubs and cheap why bother walking.
Taxis: plane arrived at 7 pm into eldorado so by the time I got to IBis I didn't want to waste time so did Indrive down to SF for my first night. Wednesday. Multiple drivers wanted 10,400 so I just took that as my base taxi fare and did 15 k total with tip. After each night the taxis are plentiful on the road where all the clubs are on. Just walk out and tell a mesero you want a taxi and you shall get one. Last time I was in SF one driver wanted 20 k for the ride from the clubs to hotel ibis and seeing that it was about 2 am then I just did it. This time though every driver was happy with my 15 k.
SG's: plenty of them and some very cute ones. Sometimes the girl will also come into the clubs. I didn't take any SG's but again it's not because there weren't any cute ones I just enjoy the ambience and ease of just having as many cute girls in the clubs. For those that like the SG price though you won't be disappointed. There were a range from young to old, slim to chunky, petite to tall.
Clubs:
I'm a barhopper. I'll typically buy a poker or water at each place and by the time I've drunk it I'll know what girls are there and the vibe. Fiebre never disappointed. Troya this time came 2nd to fiebre but often times the girls would switch between the two clubs. Antones is always fun for girls and they have a bit more of the girl next door type ones. Paisas disappointed this time and the girls for me were all either older or bigger. Didn't make it into Venus this time.
Wednesday: Banged a girl in Antones. Don't remember the name. Said she was 24 but she looked younger. A little thicker than I usually like them but had big nice puffy nipples which as her tits we're already small almost covered the whole things. Fingering, DATY, BJ covered and kisses with no tongue. Always fun to look down in doggy and her wetness turning into that lovely cream over the condom. After seeing that and her gripping the sheets I busted in her doggy. $100 k with tip all up $120 k (roughly $35 usd give or take).
Thursday: Banged a girl in Troya. Also saw her in fiebre. Estefania or stefania?? Very slim, tall, young looking brunette. I like them slim so she ticked all the boxes. At first I wanted a dance but then she said 120 k. I said no I'm waiting for friends then I'll find her (a lie. I just didn't want to pay 120) and then she immediately said 100 so I was like sure LOL. Also fun. In the room I wanted a BBBJ so she wanted another 50 k which I'm fine with. I'm a sucker for DATY and her pussy was particularly nice to look at and so I spent most of the time DATY and fingering, 69'ing. Finished in cowgirl. Total $150 k plus tip of $50 as I didn't have any smaller bills. Total: 200 k (about $50-60 usd).
Fri: There is probably the tiniest girl in Fiebre at the moment. Saw her the past two nights but she seemed cold, on the phone, never made eye contact with anyone, etc but damn she is tiny. If you're into tiny girls that fit that classic "she might break" if you pound them too hard she will be right up your alley. I decided F it, I'll take one for the team and there no way I'm leaving Bogota without having some of it even if she's also cold in the room. Anyways, her names Daniella. 22 yrs old, Colombian, brunette with green eyes (can't tell if they're natural or fake). She is the tiniest, thinnest girl in the club. For me that's my type. I realize for others she may not be yours. She quoted 150. I asked 100 and she said no and so F it I took it. Upstairs we go. She seemed lost and confused and seeing as though I hadn't seen her go up with anyone the last 2 nights I'm guessing she may not be a frequent one going upstairs. Spent plenty of time sucking on her nipples which had gotten hard and on her tiny pussy fingering. She also allowed some light anal play but stopped me from fingering it. But as to be expected there's always a snag. Her BJ skills sucked with the condom on. She hardly moved her head and I had to try and ram it. I couldn't stay hard because she just put her mouth on the tip and so asked for BBBJ which she said 100 k for and like a sucker because her body is completely my type and knowing I'm overpaying I said yes. Didn't actually do any different and so instead just decided to try and ram it into her mouth as many times as I could while in 69. She did allow some vigorous fingering while in 69. Oh well. Lesson learned. All in 250 k no tip.
Ended Friday in Troya and banged a short cute vennie. BBBJ, covered sex, fingering, DATY and busting in her mouth for $120. Tip of 30 k for a total of 150 k.
Also had numerous dances in each club which I have questions about for the regulars there but I'll put that in another post as this ones getting long.
Thank you Santa Fe.Good general review. I cannot wait to go back to Bogota in April and sample more delights from Santa Fe. I managed to find a girl who did bareback and creampies last year and she is still around. I am hoping to find a lot more girls who do it. Seeking has also been kind to me as well, with girls being happy to do it bare. I think I have been very lucky.
JohnnyWishBone
01-21-24, 12:34
I like Villavicencio or Villao as the locals call ity. I was there back in February and I stayed at a hotel right across from the exito grocery store. It was real cheap like 35 mil pesos per day for the hotel and it was actually pretty decent. No air-conditioning but it had these big ass windows right by the bed that let the breeze in and a strong fan blowing directly at the bed too so when I was laying down it felt good and a slept well.
There's some action around parque El Acha I fucked like 3 chicas from there. 2 were skinny spinner type vennies that I found very attractive. Going rate was 40 mil plus the room one girl did BBFS for an extra 50 mil and with another one the condom broke and I busted inside her "on accident" LOL but she didn't seem to really care I think I gave her an extra 20 mil because of it.
The town itself is nice. There is a restaurant called Mi llanerita tradicional they have the best tenera a la llanera there and great prices I think with a pound of steak and limonade and everything and it was like 25 mil or something.
The town is very walkable but the heat is pretty bad between 1 pm to 5 pm best to walk around and explore in the morning up until around 11 or 12 noon and then rest in the hotel room and go back out again around 6 pm as the sun is going down and there is a nice breeze. There was an empanada cart like 2 blocks from the exito and they had the best empanadas and only cost like 1500 cop each and they had like 20 different sauces to go with them. I never felt unsafe there even at night.
-Gabacho.Thank you for sharing this about Villavicencio. I am back in Colombia in April for three weeks and I am contemplating visiting Villavicencio for a day or two. Going by your posts on Villavicencio suggests there a small scene there, you can grab some girls cheaper than Bogota and also there is similar setup where there are rooms for un rato. 50 mil extra for bareback is also very good.
JohnnyWishBone
01-21-24, 12:52
I don't use escorts but my friend comes to town frequently and uses.
https://lacelestina.co/
He is in good with them and get's real photos unblurred from the management-.
Also many daytime brothels to pre qualify for outside dates.
Good Luck!!Thanks for sharing this Woodman. I personally have never been to a brothel in Bogota but I want to try some when I am there in a few months time. I wonder if there is a way of list all of these brothels on a separate page so it is easier for everyone to search.
JohnnyWishBone
01-21-24, 13:24
Is it just the US tourists or inflation plays a role also? Things has become more expensive all over the world in the last 3-4 years.I think it is a combination of several factors. There is no doubt that global inflation has played a part. The general FX trend for the major currencies vs COP is that COP is weaker, in theory you get more bang for your buck, so to speak. The past 12 months, COP has strengthened, so that plays a part in making things more expensive. However, I have definitely noticed an increase in girls quoting USD upfront whereas it was less common a few years ago. This is much more prevalent in places like Cartagena and I have spoken to a lot of locals over the past few years who say that, specifically, US tourism is slowing eroding their economy because they play a part in driving up the price. Whilst this is only one occasion, I am friends with a guy from California, a couple of years ago, after a night out in Cartagena, he took a girl back for an overnight at my place. He paid her 300 USD for the overnight, which is obscene. He was quite nonchalant about it. Girls see this type of behaviour and they think this is a common. It completely ruins the notion that you can get latinas at a really cheap price. At the end of the day, that was one of the main selling point of punters going to Cartagena in the first place.
I fear that Bogota and Santa Fe might follow suit. I am going back to Medellin in a few months time, but I suspect it has followed the same path as Cartagena.
Mr Enternational
01-21-24, 16:51
I wonder if there is a way of list all of these brothels on a separate page so it is easier for everyone to search.They are in the Bogota Lists thread.
Well the FOMO of missing out on Saturday turned into a quick visit down at about 11 pm. Took a taxi down there from ibis using Indrive. No one was taking my 10 k request but offers came up for 13,600 so again 15 k which included my tip was the same for Saturday night. Went into Antones first as while the girls are just slightly under the rating of Fiebre and Troya girls there are some cute young ones in there and the girls dancing on stage typically do more such as fingering, etc whereas the ones in Fiebre and Troya sometimes only dance up to the point of being naked then stop. So it's always fun to just get in the mood. Turned out to be a good call as there was a cute girl who I had seen on Thursday night. Curly hair, slim and 23.80 k but I wanted CIM and BBBJ. She said no to CIM but said I could cum on her tits for a total of 100 k. Off we go. She didn't disappoint and as I'm a sucker for DATY she was particularly fun as she allowed fingering of both her ass and pussy along with joining in and doing it herself in between BBBJ in 69. Light kisses, DATY, fingering ass and pussy, BBBJ, fuck and dropping a load on those pechugas. A tip of 20 k.
Finished with a table dance by a cute girl in Fiebre and called it quits for the night.
So was hoping for some input from regulars down in SF like woodman, etc. About what (if any) is the appropriate amount to pay for a table dance by a girl. I saw and have encountered all sorts of varying things and so I don't want to be disrespectful to the girl but at the same time I don't want to be fleeced and overpay for something.
What I would typically see is that a table of 2 or 3+ guys would typically have a bucket of beers or shots at their table and the girl would dance for a shot or beer and as far as I could see no money was exchanged. As I'm typically solo in the clubs and I like to bar hop I do not usually do buckets or bottles of liquor so there goes my ability to pay by a drink. First time I had a dance on my last trip there about a year ago, the mesero followed me and the girl and basically I had to buy a drink for the girl. This time I encountered all sorts of things. Usually I would just pick a girl I wanted to bang and would usually just ask for a dance then negotiate for banging in the room right after so money never was exchanged but this trip I enjoyed the dances more as just entertainment. These examples were all for girls that I didn't actually bang after the dance.
Troya girl 1-mesero followed me and I had to buy her a drink. She of course got the most expensive one of a Smirnoff ice and my poker so it came to 40 k.
Troya girl 2 - asked girl for a dance. No mesero around. Girl said yes but then looked at me blankly so I felt obliged to ask how much and she said 20 k so got a dance for 20 k.
Antones girl 1 - danced on the couches on the 2nd floor and seemed amazed that I even gave her 20 k at the end.
Antones girl 2 - I had just finished banging a girl so wasn't ready to go straight back to the room but at the end of the dance she asked if I wanted to go upstairs I explained no but thanked her for the dance. She got dressed and walked away without even asking for money. I felt like I needed to pay her something as she let me suck on her tits and play with her clit while she fingered herself.
Fiebre girl 1 - dance upstairs. Finished and then put her hand out once she was dressed. Gave her 20 k then she started waving her hand and saying no no no cuarenta. I said no and gave her 20 k again and she flipped my hand away and said 50 k and so I relented.
Fiebre girl 2 - dance and then at the end she asked if I could buy her a water. So yeah of course.
Of course for everyone else at tables with groups of guys all sharing buckets it was just a shot here, there, etc but for a solo traveller what's the general rule for dances? What should you expect to pay? Etc.
Excellent review and thanks for all the details. Where is Antone's at? I can't seem to find it on the map.
Thanks!
......I'm a barhopper. I'll typically buy a poker or water at each place and by the time I've drunk it I'll know what girls are there and the vibe. Fiebre never disappointed. Troya this time came 2nd to fiebre but often times the girls would switch between the two clubs. Antones is always fun for girls and they have a bit more of the girl next door type ones. Paisas disappointed this time and the girls for me were all either older or bigger. Didn't make it into Venus this time.
Wednesday: Banged a girl in Antones. Don't remember the name. Said she was 24 but she looked younger. A little thicker than I usually like them but had big nice puffy nipples which as her tits we're already small almost covered the whole things. Fingering, DATY, BJ covered and kisses with no tongue. Always fun to look down in doggy and her wetness turning into that lovely cream over the condom. After seeing that and her gripping the sheets I busted in her doggy. $100 k with tip all up $120 k (roughly $35 usd give or take)...
Hi everyone, new to this forum. Super excited, taking a trip to Bogota in April. Can't wait to see the talent Colombiana and Venezuelan. Any one got a good list of clubs or casas in zona roja zona T área. My first trip I wanted to make it more upscale.
Writing this on a Saturday night in my room at Ibis museo and despite FOMO of not being down in SF, it's kinda nice to enjoy a nice meal and just chill out in the hotel after a very busy few days. I'll be brief as my reports often go long.
Safety: Won't go into safety as I've written about it before. But once again I never felt unsafe. I'the routinely walk to SF from the Ibis between 7:30-8:30 pm. My preferred route was to just go down the walking street of Carrera 7 which is always busy with people to Calle 22 and then follow it all the way in. After midnight I suppose you could walk back but with the streets being a lot more deserted and the taxis plentiful outside the clubs and cheap why bother walking.A lot of times I will walk down calle 24-- It's a little quieter than Calle 22 and there is a big vacant lot before Caracas there's a lot of homeless there -- But in the daytime it's fine.
See my crappy phone video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-IkucVI3Ww
SG's: plenty of them and some very cute ones. Sometimes the girl will also come into the clubs. I didn't take any SG's but again it's not because there weren't any cute ones I just enjoy the ambience and ease of just having as many cute girls in the clubs. For those that like the SG price though you won't be disappointed. There were a range from young to old, slim to chunky, petite to tall.
Bangfo Cheito and I were checking it out-- Was really good-- I found a Really Super Cute GND type that I banged weeks ago and renewed our sexual relationship.
A lot of times I will walk down calle 24-- It's a little quieter than Calle 22 and there is a big vacant lot before Caracas there's a lot of homeless there -- But in the daytime it's fine.There's like a flea market in that lot now. I went and walked all up in there when I was there in November, some cool stuff to be found, in particular one guy was selling old coins from like 1950's etc.
Prelude141
01-22-24, 09:32
So was hoping for some input from regulars down in SF like woodman, etc. About what (if any) is the appropriate amount to pay for a table dance by a girl. I saw and have encountered all sorts of varying things and so I don't want to be disrespectful to the girl but at the same time I don't want to be fleeced and overpay for something.
What I would typically see is that a table of 2 or 3+ guys would typically have a bucket of beers or shots at their table and the girl would dance for a shot or beer and as far as I could see no money was exchanged. As I'm typically solo in the clubs and I like to bar hop I do not usually do buckets or bottles of liquor so there goes my ability to pay by a drink. First time I had a dance on my last trip there about a year ago, the mesero followed me and the girl and basically I had to buy a drink for the girl. This time I encountered all sorts of things. Usually I would just pick a girl I wanted to bang and would usually just ask for a dance then negotiate for banging in the room right after so money never was exchanged but this trip I enjoyed the dances more as just entertainment. These examples were all for girls that I didn't actually bang after the dance.
Troya girl 1-mesero followed me and I had to buy her a drink. She of course got the most expensive one of a Smirnoff ice and my poker so it came to 40 k.
Troya girl 2 - asked girl for a dance. No mesero around. Girl said yes but then looked at me blankly so I felt obliged to ask how much and she said 20 k so got a dance for 20 k.
Antones girl 1 - danced on the couches on the 2nd floor and seemed amazed that I even gave her 20 k at the end.
Antones girl 2 - I had just finished banging a girl so wasn't ready to go straight back to the room but at the end of the dance she asked if I wanted to go upstairs I explained no but thanked her for the dance. She got dressed and walked away without even asking for money. I felt like I needed to pay her something as she let me suck on her tits and play with her clit while she fingered herself.
Fiebre girl 1 - dance upstairs. Finished and then put her hand out once she was dressed. Gave her 20 k then she started waving her hand and saying no no no cuarenta. I said no and gave her 20 k again and she flipped my hand away and said 50 k and so I relented.
Fiebre girl 2 - dance and then at the end she asked if I could buy her a water. So yeah of course.
Of course for everyone else at tables with groups of guys all sharing buckets it was just a shot here, there, etc but for a solo traveller what's the general rule for dances? What should you expect to pay? Etc.Girls tend to ask 40 k by default to foreigners but most of the times if you only have 50 k notes and give them 50 k, they never give you the change back.
Locals pays 20 to 30 k. I had a dance once and paid 50 k, the was cute as she asked 40 but I only had 50 notes. A local guy asked me from afar how much I gave to the girl and he was showing me 2 fingers or 3 fingers which means 20 k or 30 k as he was a few meters away and the music was loud. I showed 3 fingers to signify 30 k and he sort of acknowledged it was a fair price. He immediately asked the girl to give him a show🤣.
From what you said, you did not overpay.
Don't be freaked out but be cautious.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/met-dating-app-bogota-woke-230219138.html
Tiger Guy X2
01-23-24, 00:11
So was hoping for some input from regulars down in SF like woodman, etc. About what (if any) is the appropriate amount to pay for a table dance by a girl. I saw and have encountered all sorts of varying things and so I don't want to be disrespectful to the girl but at the same time I don't want to be fleeced and overpay for something.
What I would typically see is that a table of 2 or 3+ guys would typically have a bucket of beers or shots at their table and the girl would dance for a shot or beer and as far as I could see no money was exchanged. As I'm typically solo in the clubs and I like to bar hop I do not usually do buckets or bottles of liquor so there goes my ability to pay by a drink. First time I had a dance on my last trip there about a year ago, the mesero followed me and the girl and basically I had to buy a drink for the girl. This time I encountered all sorts of things. Usually I would just pick a girl I wanted to bang and would usually just ask for a dance then negotiate for banging in the room right after so money never was exchanged but this trip I enjoyed the dances more as just entertainment. These examples were all for girls that I didn't actually bang after the dance.
Troya girl 1-mesero followed me and I had to buy her a drink. She of course got the most expensive one of a Smirnoff ice and my poker so it came to 40 k.
Troya girl 2 - asked girl for a dance. No mesero around. Girl said yes but then looked at me blankly so I felt obliged to ask how much and she said 20 k so got a dance for 20 k.
Antones girl 1 - danced on the couches on the 2nd floor and seemed amazed that I even gave her 20 k at the end.
Antones girl 2 - I had just finished banging a girl so wasn't ready to go straight back to the room but at the end of the dance she asked if I wanted to go upstairs I explained no but thanked her for the dance. She got dressed and walked away without even asking for money. I felt like I needed to pay her something as she let me suck on her tits and play with her clit while she fingered herself.
Fiebre girl 1 - dance upstairs. Finished and then put her hand out once she was dressed. Gave her 20 k then she started waving her hand and saying no no no cuarenta. I said no and gave her 20 k again and she flipped my hand away and said 50 k and so I relented.
Fiebre girl 2 - dance and then at the end she asked if I could buy her a water. So yeah of course.
Of course for everyone else at tables with groups of guys all sharing buckets it was just a shot here, there, etc but for a solo traveller what's the general rule for dances? What should you expect to pay? Etc.Every time I've been to the clubs in Santa Fe I usually get quoted 50 mil. There is one girl in Troya who has consistently charged me 30 mil though. In my case I always ask how much before I get the dance so there are no surprises. Also for all of my dances it's typically for multiple dances in the dance area not just sitting at my normal table seat. I have often wondered the same question you are asking though as I've seen guys with buckets getting dances too where sometimes I don't recall ever seeing them pay the girl whereas there are sometimes where I have seen one of the guys paying the girl.
Every time I've been to the clubs in Santa Fe I usually get quoted 50 mil. There is one girl in Troya who has consistently charged me 30 mil though. In my case I always ask how much before I get the dance so there are no surprises. Also for all of my dances it's typically for multiple dances in the dance area not just sitting at my normal table seat. I have often wondered the same question you are asking though as I've seen guys with buckets getting dances too where sometimes I don't recall ever seeing them pay the girl whereas there are sometimes where I have seen one of the guys paying the girl.I like getting lapdances-- But with the right girls.
Prices.
In Venus / Atonis / Texas / California dances can be 20-30 mil+ I like girls that let me play Dr not all girls will do that and actually are not fun at all. You have to pick the fun girls.
I have seen guys get slapped-- I got slapped because this drunk mexican dickhead was slapping a girl's ass and she thought it was me--LOL-- that shit hurt too.
In Troya / Paisas / Fiebre-- they can be 30-100+ usually they want 50 mil-- I was with a guy last week in Fiebre and the girl said 120 mil-- I laughed in her face--LOL-- she did it for my friend for 50 mil.
Could you guys break it down for someone who hasn't been there before. What's the standard 40 K dance like? I'm looking to compare it to my experience at clubs in the US. Now obviously I know there are obviously more options to be had. What I'm looking for is more like time and location. I'm used to the semi-private couch or private room for 15 minutes. But those are quite a bit more expensive in the states than 40 K LOL. How much time is the standardish 40 K.
Every time I've been to the clubs in Santa Fe I usually get quoted 50 mil. There is one girl in Troya who has consistently charged me 30 mil though. In my case I always ask how much before I get the dance so there are no surprises. Also for all of my dances it's typically for multiple dances in the dance area not just sitting at my normal table seat. I have often wondered the same question you are asking though as I've seen guys with buckets getting dances too where sometimes I don't recall ever seeing them pay the girl whereas there are sometimes where I have seen one of the guys paying the girl.
Haven't been in this forum for awhile so don't want to cause any trouble.
I highly respect WT, but I heard he made his maps private, and the jpg pictures are useless without a google maps link. I don't know or care.
But here's my Bogota map I compiled from several different colombian and other sources.
I have maps of every major city for my sexcation agency.
So if you want to use our Bogota map, go ahead. But I haven't updated it in 6 months.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&mid=11DpLNZSr62Dg6MBUnfZUEEq-vn4&ll=4.654029222070373%2C-74.1023269&z=13
DonCarlos1234
01-23-24, 10:55
Still, if this doesn't work out, I will probably give up on a LTR with a Latin American woman and focus on American women. It's just hard given the higher quality of woman available in the South American countries.A girl I met 3 years ago is still on SA. That bothers me, LOL I guess where I've been is not the issue? But she will travel anywhere with me and she has relatives near where I want to go. Vale de Cauca. She is gorgeous and almost too easy to be around. Vanilla. No challenge but is that bad? What if after a week together I have feelings. Yeah she speaks English. Too good to be true. I'm afraid to say more. Time will tell.
Could you guys break it down for someone who hasn't been there before. What's the standard 40 K dance like? I'm looking to compare it to my experience at clubs in the US. Now obviously I know there are obviously more options to be had. What I'm looking for is more like time and location. I'm used to the semi-private couch or private room for 15 minutes. But those are quite a bit more expensive in the states than 40 K LOL. How much time is the standardish 40 K.Semi private or right at the table -- often will see groups of guys all getting a dance by one girl.
The clubs all have couches available for lapdance-- Some better than others-- Fiebre / Paisas / Atonis / Troya / California are better. Atonis is really fun as you can actually walk through the couch area and see tons of naked girls there-- the others are entrance to couches area only-- you can see some of what is going on-- Also if you wanted a private room you could arrange that but no music.
Not really timed, girls do a do a grind in their outfits and start looseing clothes and continue until naked-- if you are with a friend they will usually lay across both of you also will open legs and and put that in your face-.
Things usually prohibited in US: I love to spread the pussy from the sides and sometimes you can fingerbang. I love grabbing their panties and giving them wedgies-- Sometimes I will stand up and grind hard-- It's a great way to get a feel for what they are like. And of course Grabbing Tits is also usually ok-- Although some girls are not so fun.
Elvis 2008
01-23-24, 20:33
A girl I met 3 years ago is still on SA. That bothers me, LOL I guess where I've been is not the issue? But she will travel anywhere with me and she has relatives near where I want to go. Vale de Cauca. She is gorgeous and almost too easy to be around. Vanilla. No challenge but is that bad? What if after a week together I have feelings. Yeah she speaks English. Too good to be true. I'm afraid to say more. Time will tell.You linked back to a post of mine from five years ago? LOL. Man, that was wild. I still cannot believe how many missed out on the pussy gold rush that came with Covid. The women I had available to me then (and you did) was unfuckingreal.
Thing about the teacher is it kind of fizzled out. Someone said that couples that stay together do so because they think their partner is awesome. The teacher was very nice, and she would have made a good long term partner. I am pretty sure though if I were with her, I would have always been looking for better. She was sweet but vanilla great but not awesome.
I have been listening to guys in the manosphere, and one of my favorites is Rich Cooper. He is constantly talking about genuine burning desire. His latest was on some beta sap who is paying for a woman who is out fucking a different guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rySWo7F1Tys.
I had so many women Don who were willing to settle for me, and I thought about settling for them. After a while, I was like why? I am just going to play the field with women I like. I know now anyone of them would have committed to me if I wanted them to, but there was always a feeling I could do better.
The point is if you are at the meh point now you are settling. In the beginning with me, it was the sex, way she looked, and the fun we had. The hard part for me was believing someone so hot was into me and had true desire for me. Once I finally got that it was real, I focused on her character and really liked what I saw.
Thing is you cannot fake that desire. People see through fake desire from a mile away. If it is fake, people do not want to invest into the relationship. On the flip side, if it is real, you cannot keep people away. My gal's daughter's Quincera is coming up, and she has asked that many of my friends and relatives come. I thought they would be hesitant, but they are thrilled. Even my American single friends are lining up excited to see my gal's single friends. Maybe it is that or maybe they want to laugh at me trying to dance the waltz. Lord have mercy.
My gal and I still have tons of fun, still have great sex, and I miss her every day I am not with her. We are often with other people so often we do not get bored with one another.
Don, you cannot settle for meh. It is hard because you have been with so many women. Until you find the one who blows your socks off and you have genuine burning desire for her and vice versa, play the field.
Tiger Guy X2
01-24-24, 01:39
Could you guys break it down for someone who hasn't been there before. What's the standard 40 K dance like? I'm looking to compare it to my experience at clubs in the US. Now obviously I know there are obviously more options to be had. What I'm looking for is more like time and location. I'm used to the semi-private couch or private room for 15 minutes. But those are quite a bit more expensive in the states than 40 K LOL. How much time is the standardish 40 K.These are NOT like most USA based strip clubs so that's not even a comparison. These are basically brothels where the girls also strip and give lap dances. Given everything is out in the open legally unlike in the USA they don't have to play the vip and dance games like places in the usa.
There are no private vip area for dances (at least not that I'm aware of). You're still in the regular club area with other patrons all around who can see everything. There could still be just regular patrons sitting in the "lap dance" area too since those are the seats they usually give to guys buying buckets / bottles especially on busy nights. So if the club is extremely busy it's possible those seats could be totally occupied in which case your only option is getting a dance at whatever seat you were already sitting at.
You can feel up the girls during the dances. Some girls will be ok with you fingering them, licking their tits / pussy, or grabbing your dick during the dance too, but that can vary from girl to girl. As for how much time I don't know. It's usually like 4-5 songs, but I've honestly never counted.
You should probably just assume 50 mil for dances since I found that to be the most quoted rate at various clubs in Santa Fe.
LatinaLover#1
01-24-24, 05:23
My old girlfriend in Bogota, from 6 or 7 years ago, who I still maintain contact with, sent me this.
**The USA Embassy in Bogota is warning Americans in Colombia to be cautious while using online dating sites in the country, after eight USA Citizens were found dead in Medelland over a two-month period under suspicious circumstances. The deaths occurred in November and December. 2023
Jan 16,2024*.
Remember you can't be too careful. Nothing ruins a trip like waking up in your apartment with no money, no Credit Cards and no passport!!
MaddTraveler
01-24-24, 07:16
I like getting lapdances-- But with the right girls.
Prices.
In Venus / Atonis / Texas / California dances can be 20-30 mil+ I like girls that let me play Dr not all girls will do that and actually are not fun at all. You have to pick the fun girls.
I have seen guys get slapped-- I got slapped because this drunk mexican dickhead was slapping a girl's ass and she thought it was me--LOL-- that shit hurt too.
In Troya / Paisas / Fiebre-- they can be 30-100+ usually they want 50 mil-- I was with a guy last week in Fiebre and the girl said 120 mil-- I laughed in her face--LOL-- she did it for my friend for 50 mil.Since you live there and prob been there longer than most of us, do you also get the feeling that paying for dance is something American gringos started there in Bogota? Because in clubs where there are little to no tourists in sight dances are free with optional propinas, incl other countries and cities in LA. I think I met that girl at fiebre that usually ask for a lot like 100-120, she's an exception bc she actually doesn't fuck and only dances, w a nice shape gym body.
Think about it, why would locals pay 50 k for dance when they can fuck for that? Which is also a day salary? Americans need to get that lap dance BS out of their system for real. Ruining things everywhere we go LOL. In Latin American you pay to fuck legally, not for dances.
DonCarlos1234
01-24-24, 07:31
You linked back to a post of mine from five years ago? LOL. Man, that was wild. I still cannot believe how many missed out on the pussy gold rush that came with Covid. The women I had available to me then (and you did) was unfuckingreal.
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Don, you cannot settle for meh. It is hard because you have been with so many women. Until you find the one who blows your socks off and you have genuine burning desire for her and vice versa, play the field.I was thinking about places I wanted to visit with female companionship and voila! My girl says she just came back from there, her parents in Manizales, relatives in Pereira and Armenia. All places I wanted to visit, especially Valle del Cauca. Ahh and I still have SA girls numbers that are probably still good. From those cities. Hope she doesn't read this, she's turning 21 soon. Oh well. I also want to visit the coast of Brazil near Rio but not till Summer is over. The girls quality there and availability it still unfuckingreal. Yet few guys want to go there because of the distance and the language. So Colombia wins once again (for now) Congrats to you! - you are a trailblazer. And your suggestions are well headed. I may take her on a trip but we won't be spending all our lives together.
Mr Enternational
01-24-24, 14:36
A girl I met 3 years ago is still on SA. That bothers me, LOL I guess where I've been is not the issue? But she will travel anywhere with me and she has relatives near where I want to go. Vale de Cauca. She is gorgeous and almost too easy to be around. Vanilla. No challenge but is that bad? What if after a week together I have feelings. Yeah she speaks English. Too good to be true. I'm afraid to say more. Time will tell.Quer sera, sera. I have been on Cupid 19 years and some chicks that I have known from way back then are even still on there. They have exceeded the sell by date for me, but still there. I am not planning to marry anybody so I don't care if someone that I am messing with does whatever they do. I am always there until something better comes along for them. I am even there when that something they thought was better leaves.
I have been messing with a girl from Ecuador who is a chef for the last almost 2 years. At the beginning of December she left home on a trek becoming a migrant. I told her it was not a good idea but her mind was made up. She went to Panama, Guatemala, Mexico (where she had to pay the cartel $200), then made her way to San Antonio. Along the way she was in a hotel in Mexico and asked me for money for that. I told her no way. Her sister ended up sending her some money. Immigration kept her 3 days then gave her a work permit, money for a lawyer, and money for something else that I can not remember. People think they are coming destitute, but they come with their belongings. Customs takes ALL their stuff to burn it though. They even took the wallet that her passport was in.
From there she went to her sister in law's brother's house in San Diego. Her court date is not until April but they told her to call in every 60 days until then. She said most of the other people were fitted for ankle monitors. She was not doing shit in San Diego so I told her she could come to my house and stay until I left on January 15th.
I took her to Goodwill to shop and she got addicted to that place. The exact Merrill shoes that I was wearing at the time they had for ladies in her size for $5 looking brand new. I showed her online where mine cost $120. Some friends that she has in my city picked her up and took her to a lawyer. That clown wanted $6000. I told her to just get the paperwork of her friends that have been through the process and replace her friend's name with her name. That is all the hell they do anyway. If there is any litigation to be done is when you would need the lawyer. Then her friends took her and she got a job! I said that just goes to show how lazy some Americans are. 2 weeks across the border, speaks no English, and got a job already, while some folks complaining for years that they can not find one.
On the 9th she decided to go live with her cousins in Chicago. I took her to Burlington to get a big coat the night before she left. She kept trying to get the $100 Michael Kors but I told her every bit of her money counts so she better get that $50 Guess or whatever it was instead. Now on to your point of the goose and gander deal. While she was at my house she sent me a like on Cupid. She had changed her profile to my city. That did not bother me at all the way it bothered you seeing the chick still on Seeking. I do not have any commitments to anyone and I have not asked anybody to have any to me. I prefer to live and let live. One of my girls told me the other day that I am a free spirit. Yep. She got that right.
DonCarlos1234
01-24-24, 22:35
That did not bother me at all the way it bothered you seeing the chick still on Seeking. I do not have any commitments to anyone and I have not asked anybody to have any to me. I prefer to live and let live. One of my girls told me the other day that I am a free spirit. Yep. She got that right.I never went to check her SA profile. She says she's there yet tired of the game. So yeah we can go on a trip and after that I will head off to the next adventure. And we'll still be FWB. Colombia Cupid is bizarre. I might turn SA back on, it's been almost 3 years without it. Can we recommend your place for wayward chicks near SD?
Mr Enternational
01-24-24, 23:19
Colombia Cupid is bizarre. I might turn SA back on, it's been almost 3 years without it. Can we recommend your place for wayward chicks near SD?LOL. I am from Atlanta. Latinamericancupid has always been my thing since I go all over Latin America. I have never been on Colombian Cupid.
I am in Paipa now with one of my nurse chicks from Bogota. One thing about chicks out in the villages is they do not have all those ugly ass tattoos like the city chicks. If you are ever looking for a real girlfriend then the small towns are the way to go.
DonCarlos1234
01-25-24, 10:10
LOL. I am from Atlanta. Latinamericancupid has always been my thing since I go all over Latin America. I have never been on Colombian Cupid.
I am in Paipa now with one of my nurse chicks from Bogota. One thing about chicks out in the villages is they do not have all those ugly ass tattoos like the city chicks. If you are ever looking for a real girlfriend then the small towns are the way to go.I will check LA Cupid. Maybe it's better than before.
Yeah I hate tattoos, big butts, piercings are god awful. And that's my next trip around Armenia and towns nearby. With or without tag a along girlfriend. Learn the area. We might rent a car and drive. Should be lots of fun.
Elvis 2008
01-25-24, 19:01
I will check LA Cupid. Maybe it's better than before.
Yeah I hate tattoos, big butts, piercings are god awful. And that's my next trip around Armenia and towns nearby. With or without tag a along girlfriend. Learn the area. We might rent a car and drive. Should be lots of fun.Maybe I was not using it right, and I know there was some crossover with seeking, but the cupids always sent me to the average looking middle aged women. I probably should have given it a chance though. I think the photos on the cupid sites don't make the women look as good as on seeking. But it is water under the bridge.
And Don, if you get a chance, you should try to do a trip with two women versus one. Just make sure the women get along and you go with Airbnb's where you all are together versus a hotel room for them and one for you. Your gal is beautiful but there is the age difference and you can get bored with the gal and vice versa. When you have three people, you do not get sick of one another if it is the right three. The girls can talk about makeup, fashion, Tik Tok and all the shit so important to them we could care less about.
You have to have the right two women but the trips I took to Cancun with two and three women rank as the most fun things I have done in my life.
Was out with a client last night-- Pretty nice line ups of SGs.
Clubs were slow until after the game -- Troya and Fiebre got going really nice.
Especially Fiebre-- 25+ girls Many 7-8++ Of note a super cute Petite 22 yo named Daniela -- Looked 18.
And a another petite with Huge Naturals size Double 'E' cup at least-- Awesome-- I did not talk to her but I saw her doing a lapdance-- She looks fun.
Hey Hey Hey-- Santa Fe!
Alright so after a week in Villavicencio I would say it's not special or even worth it unless you count the spectacular views from the bus drive.
There is basically no one on Tinder or my app is broke. Getting barely any matches and next to no interest whereas in Cartagena I'd have 100+ with girls ready to come over after discussing price. Even the girls on the escort pages do not do domicilios, at least not all of the decent looking ones I contacted. There's a spa called Flor de Lota but I can't get them to send me the catalog.
Anyway, if you like street action or casas then I guess it the same here as anywhere, so nothing special. But if you're like me and want someone to come over for a negotiated price then it's not the place. My guess is that there's just no reason for anyone to be here and girls who live here would not want to get caught by their friends or families. There was one good looking young girl who lives about 30 min away by bus willing to come but I was with the girl I came for at the time. After that, nothing.
Bango Cheito
01-26-24, 20:31
So was hoping for some input from regulars down in SF like woodman, etc. About what (if any) is the appropriate amount to pay for a table dance by a girl. I saw and have encountered all sorts of varying things and so I don't want to be disrespectful to the girl but at the same time I don't want to be fleeced and overpay for something.
What I would typically see is that a table of 2 or 3+ guys would typically have a bucket of beers or shots at their table and the girl would dance for a shot or beer and as far as I could see no money was exchanged. As I'm typically solo in the clubs and I like to bar hop I do not usually do buckets or bottles of liquor so there goes my ability to pay by a drink. First time I had a dance on my last trip there about a year ago, the mesero followed me and the girl and basically I had to buy a drink for the girl. This time I encountered all sorts of things. Usually I would just pick a girl I wanted to bang and would usually just ask for a dance then negotiate for banging in the room right after so money never was exchanged but this trip I enjoyed the dances more as just entertainment. These examples were all for girls that I didn't actually bang after the dance.
Troya girl 1-mesero followed me and I had to buy her a drink. She of course got the most expensive one of a Smirnoff ice and my poker so it came to 40 k.
Troya girl 2 - asked girl for a dance. No mesero around. Girl said yes but then looked at me blankly so I felt obliged to ask how much and she said 20 k so got a dance for 20 k.
Antones girl 1 - danced on the couches on the 2nd floor and seemed amazed that I even gave her 20 k at the end.
Antones girl 2 - I had just finished banging a girl so wasn't ready to go straight back to the room but at the end of the dance she asked if I wanted to go upstairs I explained no but thanked her for the dance. She got dressed and walked away without even asking for money. I felt like I needed to pay her something as she let me suck on her tits and play with her clit while she fingered herself.
Fiebre girl 1 - dance upstairs. Finished and then put her hand out once she was dressed. Gave her 20 k then she started waving her hand and saying no no no cuarenta. I said no and gave her 20 k again and she flipped my hand away and said 50 k and so I relented.
Fiebre girl 2 - dance and then at the end she asked if I could buy her a water. So yeah of course.
Of course for everyone else at tables with groups of guys all sharing buckets it was just a shot here, there, etc but for a solo traveller what's the general rule for dances? What should you expect to pay? Etc.No rules; it's 110% situational.
Bango Cheito
01-26-24, 20:34
A lot of times I will walk down calle 24-- It's a little quieter than Calle 22 and there is a big vacant lot before Caracas there's a lot of homeless there -- But in the daytime it's fine.
See my crappy phone video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-IkucVI3Ww
Bangfo Cheito and I were checking it out-- Was really good-- I found a Really Super Cute GND type that I banged weeks ago and renewed our sexual relationship.Yeah she was a cutie patootie that one!
Bango Cheito
01-26-24, 20:37
Alright so after a week in Villavicencio I would say it's not special or even worth it unless you count the spectacular views from the bus drive.
There is basically no one on Tinder or my app is broke. Getting barely any matches and next to no interest whereas in Cartagena I'd have 100+ with girls ready to come over after discussing price. Even the girls on the escort pages do not do domicilios, at least not all of the decent looking ones I contacted. There's a spa called Flor de Lota but I can't get them to send me the catalog.
Anyway, if you like street action or casas then I guess it the same here as anywhere, so nothing special. But if you're like me and want someone to come over for a negotiated price then it's not the place. My guess is that there's just no reason for anyone to be here and girls who live here would not want to get caught by their friends or families. There was one good looking young girl who lives about 30 min away by bus willing to come but I was with the girl I came for at the time. After that, nothing.TBH every time I've been there I've always had local women for free and only ever p4 p'ed there once. The experience was kinda mediocre.
I recently got back from a month-long motorcycle trip and stopped in many pueblos and smaller cities. Once again, got some nice freebies, didn't even bother with p4 p.
For my money, Bogotá is hands-down the best for p4 p. Best prices, best service, most options. I don't think even Medellíand or Cartagena are worth it. Medellíand is another place where I just go for the FWB thing and don't bother mongering. Cartagena I just tend to avoid like the plague because I can't stand the heat.
DonCarlos1234
01-28-24, 21:35
Spent the whole day looking at every single girl from mileroticos, photoprepagos, and pasiand prepagos and some other random sites. Don Colombia and stuff like that.
Then I decided to go to lido before I venture to santa fe for the first time. Sorry woodman.
SNIP -
Leave. Go to Loutron. 10 min walk from lido.
The objective 1-10 rating scale: This will end the debate once and for all. According to Myron Gaines. (Sorry Myron I p2 p. Ee all do in some way shape or form I'the rather just be direct).
5 is average. Think your regular college girl. Flat. Decent face.
9 is perfect in every way objectively like there is nothing bad.
10 doesn't exist. What is 10 for one person is a 8 for another. What takes you from 9 to 10 is preference.
4 is below average.
1 none one would touch with a 10 foot pole. Think disabled old lady. Sorry disabled old ladies.
Hax.Truly a man on a mission and useful info about the "high end" clubs I've also visited in the past. It's a lot of time consumed looking for that 10. LOL but they do exist, just not out in the streets. I searched "strip clubs" here on ISG and this is (so far) the most useful post I found. SF has plenty, alas they are far from Medellin quality. Yet every once in a while you will find a 7 or an 8. Someone posted about seeing a "model" in one of the casa / clubs that wouldn't engage in conversation. I'm guessing with so many guys combing all over Bogota. Someone has the low down. Wonder if they want to enlighten us. Since I will be there a couple nights March.
Someone posted about seeing a "model" in one of the casa / clubs that wouldn't engage in conversation. I'm guessing with so many guys combing all over Bogota. Someone has the low down. Wonder if they want to enlighten us. Since I will be there a couple nights March.Not to be argumentative nor am I here to be disrespectful but I never get these posts about girl ratings and where to find the 9&10 girls and that even then those 9&10 girls equating to 9&10 once you've paid them. The tiny, very slim, big pouty lips 22 yo Daniella at Fiebre that I reviewed and Woodman mentioned, looks great to me. To others, she's going to be lower on the rating scale especially if you consider large tits, curves and an ass essential. I equate her as an 8-9 on looks. Others are going to disagree. Also she was lame upstairs so her looks equated to absolutely zero when fucking a paying customer. Now I just consider her nice eye candy but I wouldn't pay her again to go upstairs. Now for the guy (or girl) that goes into a relationship with her and is into skinny girls then bless them. They are set for life LOL. Equally, There's a tall, blonde, slightly older bimbo, almost Russian looking girl in Fiebre as well. To me I don't like her but I can understand how guys would find her attractive and an 8-9 based on the number of dances she was giving. It's not that I don't think she's attractive but I don't know it doesn't impact me as much as the skinny Daniella does. You really need to be specific to what you rate your 9&10 qualities as? For me, as well, for a girl to be 10 she needs to have looks but also some personality. I've been with enough stunning looking girls now that fail so miserably on the personality side that they'll never get that 10. I don't want to bang a wet fish in the room even if she is hot asf. There are a handful of them though in that 10 category.
JackTaggart
01-29-24, 00:02
Does anyone know of any motels in the north? Ideally usaquen or up until calle 165. but I'm very flexible. I've used the motelnow app and you can also easily walk around barios unidos and Chapinero and find them. But I haven't had much luck up here. I'm finding 170 mil and up motels / hotels rather than the 35 to 45 ones for 4 hours.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
JackTaggart
01-29-24, 15:43
Does anyone know of any motels in the north? Ideally usaquen or up until calle 165. but I'm very flexible. I've used the motelnow app and you can also easily walk around barios unidos and Chapinero and find them. But I haven't had much luck up here. I'm finding 170 mil and up motels / hotels rather than the 35 to 45 ones for 4 hours.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.So I found this place. Looks like 95 mil for 4 hours but perhaps they are not super honests.
https://motelescerca.com.co/bogota/motel-la-cita-usaquen/
Anyways. If you guys have anything else ID be curious. I'll have an opportunity to try this in the next week or two.
Not to be argumentative nor am I here to be disrespectful but I never get these posts about girl ratings and where to find the 9&10 girls and that even then those 9&10 girls equating to 9&10 once you've paid them. The tiny, very slim, big pouty lips 22 yo Daniella at Fiebre that I reviewed and Woodman mentioned, looks great to me. To others, she's going to be lower on the rating scale especially if you consider large tits, curves and an ass essential. I equate her as an 8-9 on looks. Others are going to disagree. Also she was lame upstairs so her looks equated to absolutely zero when fucking a paying customer. Now I just consider her nice eye candy but I wouldn't pay her again to go upstairs. Now for the guy (or girl) that goes into a relationship with her and is into skinny girls then bless them. They are set for life LOL. Equally, There's a tall, blonde, slightly older bimbo, almost Russian looking girl in Fiebre as well. To me I don't like her but I can understand how guys would find her attractive and an 8-9 based on the number of dances she was giving. It's not that I don't think she's attractive but I don't know it doesn't impact me as much as the skinny Daniella does. You really need to be specific to what you rate your 9&10 qualities as? For me, as well, for a girl to be 10 she needs to have looks but also some personality. I've been with enough stunning looking girls now that fail so miserably on the personality side that they'll never get that 10. I don't want to bang a wet fish in the room even if she is hot asf. There are a handful of them though in that 10 category.I'm working with a small sample size a few nights last June in SF, but I was impressed. Yeah everyone's 10's are different, but there's variety in the top tier of different types of girls. Now I didn't see young leggy all natural Sofia Vergaras in her prime. But I had solid 9's of my 2 arch types, the all natural perky college cheerleader types, fit with athletic curves, as well as a thick pornstar enhanced type clone of Rebeca Linares.
As long as the SF club girls are still in the I think it was $40 range then these many 8's and several 9's are worth the trip. I need to come back for a long weekend this spring now that Cartagenas market seems to have crashed and Medellin requires more finesse.
Not to be argumentative nor am I here to be disrespectful but I never get these posts about girl ratings and where to find the 9&10 girls and that even then those 9&10 girls equating to 9&10 once you've paid them. The tiny, very slim, big pouty lips 22 yo Daniella at Fiebre that I reviewed and Woodman mentioned, looks great to me. To others, she's going to be lower on the rating scale especially if you consider large tits, curves and an ass essential. I equate her as an 8-9 on looks. Others are going to disagree. Also she was lame upstairs so her looks equated to absolutely zero when fucking a paying customer..The other night I was there, I was thinking about taking her upstairrs but my spidey sence started tingling and I brushed her off-- Now I am glad I did-- Just the way she was kinda acting right but not exactly-- Attached is a Super Cute Streety Sweety who is just as hot and half the price-- And she grooves on my dick.
DonCarlos1234
01-30-24, 22:18
I'm working with a small sample size a few nights last June in SF, but I was impressed. Yeah everyone's 10's are different, but there's variety in the top tier of different types of girls. Now I didn't see young leggy all natural Sofia Vergaras in her prime. But I had solid 9's of my 2 arch types, the all natural perky college cheerleader types, fit with athletic curves, as well as a thick pornstar enhanced type clone of Rebeca Linares.
Been there a few times. Entertaining. Found one older girl with very nice boobs. A 7, boobs 9. Had her visit the hotel. She did not want to leave. Took the bus. LOL Will see next month if the quality has improved. Then Bogotas "strip clubs".
Attached is a Super Cute Streety Sweety who is just as hot and half the price-- Nice! I wish I'd felt better during the trip I made to Bogota way back when in 2019. Spent most of my time in my room alone.
MarquisdeSade1
01-31-24, 09:42
"Getting a job isn't easy, migrants get jobs because of exploitation, I remember applying for minimum wage jobs and constantly getting rejected. ".
Si Senor.
Mr Enternational
01-31-24, 13:54
I fell through Santa Fe last night at 11 pm. Nothing much going on. Only a few chicks out. One side was looking open air with a nice view of downtown. I noticed it was because they had torn down an entire block of buildings. They were not part of the mongering scene though. I got a take away pork plate from old boy and started back a little after midnight. I took a few photos with my Samsung big boy on the 7 minute walk to the apartment.
Those shots are of the same street, I believe, I walked every single night back to Hotel San Francisco, basically the same level of inactivity as well.
Great memories triggered by those photos, thanks!
I fell through Santa Fe last night at 11 pm. Nothing much going on. Only a few chicks out. One side was looking open air with a nice view of downtown. I noticed it was because they had torn down an entire block of buildings. They were not part of the mongering scene though. I got a take away pork plate from old boy and started back a little after midnight. I took a few photos with my Samsung big boy on the 7 minute walk to the apartment.
I fell through Santa Fe last night at 11 pm. Nothing much going on. Only a few chicks out. One side was looking open air with a nice view of downtown. I noticed it was because they had torn down an entire block of buildings. They were not part of the mongering scene though. I got a take away pork plate from old boy and started back a little after midnight. I took a few photos with my Samsung big boy on the 7 minute walk to the apartment.I hear the block they clear will be for an elevated metro station that will run at least to Calle 72-- I guess SF may be moved further south?
You should go girl watching at rush hour today or tomorrow shood be pretty nice bein payday and all.
I hear the block they clear will be for an elevated metro station that will run at least to Calle 72-- I guess SF may be moved further south?
You should go girl watching at rush hour today or tomorrow shood be pretty nice bein payday and all.Hi oodman09 interested in a tour, how can I get hold of you? Thanks.
Hi oodman09 interested in a tour, how can I get hold of you? Thanks.Unfortunately I cannot give contact info here. Only on P-Ms--But tours are available.
World Travel 69
02-04-24, 20:33
Here is the map of their System.
Debating making 1st run to Medellin since the flights are pretty cheap, but on the fence go return to Bogota instead (only $200 more in flight, and a 4 HR flight no connection needed like MDE).
I just want another simple 3 day run of clubs, & agency girls, so a Thurs to Sun. What are the price ranges of the Fiebre, Troyas, Atonis? Last year I went had a great menu of some 8's and 9's, I think 150 K-200 K?
I'd likely just stay at whichever is the nicer girl friendly hotel, Tequendema which I believe is the current popular near SF hotel that LaCelestina / EroticasBogota go to.
Here is the map of their System.You selling those now too?? LMAO.
World Travel 69
02-05-24, 17:39
Here are a few you can buy.
You selling those now too?? LMAO.
I'll be traveling to Bogota sometime in March for work, staying at either the Bogota Marriott or a Hilton property near the convention center. The more I read these forums, the more excited I am for the trip. Thinking about asking Woodman09 for a tour, but also intrigued by his post that an acquaintance used lacelestina, which has some real interest on my part as well.
My question is will these ladies, or others from a different site / agency go to a major chain hotel? I guess worst case is I can just do a Santa Fe tour, or get a cheap second room for play time on my own at a more friendly hotel.
CBRGuy.
I hear the block they clear will be for an elevated metro station that will run at least to Calle 72-- I guess SF may be moved further south?
You should go girl watching at rush hour today or tomorrow shood be pretty nice bein payday and all.Station completion in 3 years, I suspect they will close down the whole zone, at least the North stroll area before completion-.
Station completion in 3 years, I suspect they will close down the whole zone, at least the North stroll area before completion-.Do you think it will reopen after completion?
Station completion in 3 years, I suspect they will close down the whole zone, at least the North stroll area before completion-.Just because there is a metro station there doesn't mean they need to close down the zone. In Medellin there is a metro station called parque berrio which is literally right behind the tolerance zone called plaza botero / la Veracruz. When you get off the metro there are literally street girls in the fucking stairways as you go down to street level. And all up underneath the metro there are more street girls and dudes selling drugs too especially in the area between the Prado station and the parque berrio station. So why should Bogota be any different?
Do you think it will reopen after completion?Do you really think they would build Bogotá's first metro and have hookers running around out side of it? Really?
Do you really think they would build Bogot's first metro and have hookers running around out side of it? Really?In Medellin they do. It is exactly like that.
Do you really think they would build Bogot's first metro and have hookers running around out side of it? Really?Might I add that Medellin has Colombia's first metro and yes at parque berrio station there are hookers running around outside of it.
Do you really think they would build Bogot's first metro and have hookers running around out side of it? Really?So Woody are you contemplating a new job in the near future?
I had traveled from NY to Panama last month and had unprotected bbj (oral and no sex) with a Venezuela escort. 4th day onwards got unusual symptoms like confusing headache and others like COVID.
Returned to NYC and did all sort of tests around 7th day. Nothing was unusual in results.
Now it is more than a month and some symptoms are there especially itching, tightness, pinching around penis / kidney area and occasionally headache with confusions.
I need to travel in a day or two to Bogota for about a week and was wondering if I can get tested completely and also meet any specialist in Colombia. Is it easy and doable within 1 week?
Or Should I do all tests, followups in NYC itself? But it would go on insurance and will get tracked by family and will stay on records as well.
Any recommendations? Sorry if this is a wrong post here.
DonCarlos1234
02-12-24, 02:34
I In fact I had fucked 80% of the girls who were on the roster of encounters vip. Took a look at their website today and all the girls I had banged have disappearedPlus Santa Fe. What herbs were you smokin? And what did y'all spend? 5 K usd?
I had traveled from NY to Panama last month and had unprotected bbj (oral and no sex) with a Venezuela escort. 4th day onwards got unusual symptoms like confusing headache and others like COVID.
Returned to NYC and did all sort of tests around 7th day. Nothing was unusual in results.
Now it is more than a month and some symptoms are there especially itching, tightness, pinching around penis / kidney area and occasionally headache with confusions.
I need to travel in a day or two to Bogota for about a week and was wondering if I can get tested completely and also meet any specialist in Colombia. Is it easy and doable within 1 week?
Or Should I do all tests, followups in NYC itself? But it would go on insurance and will get tracked by family and will stay on records as well.
Any recommendations? Sorry if this is a wrong post here.Just put some clotrimazol on your dick and you'll be fine LOL. It's probably just in your head anyways.
Just put some clotrimazol on your dick and you'll be fine LOL. It's probably just in your head anyways.Thanks Gabacho.
I want to get tested because of this headaches & also itching not only around dick but now a days around poop area.
Would my exposure also impact HEB be or see?
I am thinking doing tests in USA and looking for any anonymous testing.
Prelude141
02-12-24, 20:15
Thanks Gabacho.
I want to get tested because of this headaches & also itching not only around dick but now a days around poop area.
Would my exposure also impact HEB be or see?
I am thinking doing tests in USA and looking for any anonymous testing.If I may, please do not go with girls in Bogota till you are clear with what you've got which seems weird and serious.
Casa No Va
02-12-24, 20:37
Thanks Gabacho.
I want to get tested because of this headaches & also itching not only around dick but now a days around poop area.
Would my exposure also impact HEB be or see?
I am thinking doing tests in USA and looking for any anonymous testing.I would go and get tested for Gonorrhea. Prob a antibiotic shot and 7 day course of doxy if positive.
Thanks Gabacho.
I want to get tested because of this headaches & also itching not only around dick but now a days around poop area.
Would my exposure also impact HEB be or see?
I am thinking doing tests in USA and looking for any anonymous testing.If you're worried about an itchy dick then maybe mongering isn't really for you. Maybe you should try playing golf or sport fishing or something like that.
And also why would you're poop area be itching? I don't even want to ask what you did LOL.
I would go and get tested for Gonorrhea. Prob a antibiotic shot and 7 day course of doxy if positive.If it were gonorrhea he would have a yellowish green discharge leaking from his dick. And he would need an I'm injection of ceftriaxone and take 1500 MG of azythromyckn.
Your post just reeks of foolishness and I'm getting a confusing headache like you just reading it. Itchy poop hole.
Pinching penis lmao.
If you truly are in NYC and were this concerned you would research a little and know that there are a number of options to be tested anonymously for this through either planned parenthood, quest diagnostics, etc. Secondly, if you have no partner then the family won't know. Third, if you're still on mommy and daddy's insurance then the insurance owner (presumably mom and dad) will see on their EOB you have gotten STI services however it's so easy to search online that you don't need to use your insurance and a sliding fee schedule is used which doesn't cost much at all so. If you can afford a flight to Panama then you can afford to pay for a test. Fourth, the whole post sounds BS for all the reasons above and if you're that nervous about it then this isn't the thing for you to be doing.
I had traveled from NY to Panama last month and had unprotected bbj (oral and no sex) with a Venezuela escort. 4th day onwards got unusual symptoms like confusing headache and others like COVID.
Returned to NYC and did all sort of tests around 7th day. Nothing was unusual in results.
Now it is more than a month and some symptoms are there especially itching, tightness, pinching around penis / kidney area and occasionally headache with confusions.
I need to travel in a day or two to Bogota for about a week and was wondering if I can get tested completely and also meet any specialist in Colombia. Is it easy and doable within 1 week?
Or Should I do all tests, followups in NYC itself? But it would go on insurance and will get tracked by family and will stay on records as well.
Any recommendations? Sorry if this is a wrong post here.
I would go and get tested for Gonorrhea. Prob a antibiotic shot and 7 day course of doxy if positive.Doxycycline is some rough shit. It will make you have severe vomiting if you don't take it with food, plus he has to take 100 MG for. 7 to 10 days. I would instead recommend 1500 MG of azythromycin taken all at once (e 500 MG pills known in the US as a z-pack) along with an intramuscular injection of ceftriaxone I believe 1000 MG is sufficient. That will knock out any no complicated gonorrhea and / or chlamydia infection. If he is in Colombia or. México he can go straight to a pharmacy and request those specific drugs and have the pharmacist administer the injection all without having to see a doctor or get tested.
Elvis 2008
02-14-24, 01:40
Now it is more than a month and some symptoms are there especially itching, tightness, pinching around penis / kidney area and occasionally headache with confusions.
I need to travel in a day or two to Bogota for about a week and was wondering if I can get tested completely and also meet any specialist in Colombia. Is it easy and doable within 1 week?Most common but not the only causes of penile itching are fungus and latex allergy from condom use. Your symptoms are consistent with a fungal / yeast infection. Look it up. Try putting Monistat cream or its generic equivalent on your penis. It is over the counter and will say vaginal cream but it is fine to use on your penis. If the itching stops, then get a prescription for fluconazole either OTC in Colombia or via a doctor in the USA to kill the fungus in your body and stay away from sweets for a week. I would do 7 days of fluconazole. You will feel lousy day one and two as the yeast dies off then will feel energetic and clear headed. Read the side effects especially with fluconazole and other drugs and alcohol. You should stay away from booze those 7 days anyway.
If the itching persists, then you are most likely latex allergic which is common. Use OTC hydrocortisone cream if you are in the USA. You can get a stronger steroid cream in Colombia but administer as thin a layer on your penis as you can. Also take one zyrtec 10 MG or generic equivalent at bedtime for 7 or so nights. It will make you sleepy.
The problem with the antibiotics mentioned is they will make a yeast / fungal infection worse. Also, a steroid cream would make a fungal / yeast infection worse. On the other hand, there is no downside to treating the yeast / fungus first and given your symptoms, that is what you most likely have anyway.
And this is free advice and you get what you pay for. But FWIW, I feel for you. It is a common problem but is not discussed all that often. Yeast infections are technically potential STDs but no one talks about them like they are.
I just had my worst encounter yet. The chick looked good in the photos and when I arrived she didn't look as good but it was definitely the same girl so I said screw it because I had already been bamboozled once today by someone who definitely catfished me.
I should have known as soon as I entered that she had a bad attitude and just wasn't present at all. She said cancelemos primero (pay first) and I didn't think anything of it other than the fact that she looked at me when I asked how much as if she had suddenly dozed off or something. The warning signs were there, but as I said, I had been fooled once today and was just ready to be done for the day.
Anyway first she would not kiss or touch or do absolutely anything to turn me on. No besitos, nothing. I always skip on condom oral and especially this time because she done nothing to get me hard. Anyway somehow I get hard and I ask her to get in doggy style and she said no, she doesn't do that with anyone. So she proceeds to ride me but makes zero facial expression, looks straight ahead, and doesn't make any noise at all. Completely mechanical, might as well have been a robot. Anyway after some communication issues I just couldn't keep it up anymore and I told her I was just going to cum on her chest. She of course said no. I proceeded to ask, "do you do anything, why are you even advertising yourself if you're not willing to do anything"? Anyway she didn't get mad, as usual just a stunned face like a deer with the headlights on.
Idk, maybe she was on something, but I got proper mad before I left, even asked for change back as I paid for half an hour but it wasn't more than 15 min until I was completely done.
Ended up finding a young coastal girl that had only been working for three days. The sex was good and she didn't object to anything but as we were doing it her period came. I thought she was going to stick it in raw at first but I'm glad she didn't.
What a day.
Your post just reeks of foolishness and I'm getting a confusing headache like you just reading it. Itchy poop hole.
Pinching penis lmao.
If you truly are in NYC and were this concerned you would research a little and know that there are a number of options to be tested anonymously for this through either planned parenthood, quest diagnostics, etc. Secondly, if you have no partner then the family won't know. Third, if you're still on mommy and daddy's insurance then the insurance owner (presumably mom and dad) will see on their EOB you have gotten STI services however it's so easy to search online that you don't need to use your insurance and a sliding fee schedule is used which doesn't cost much at all so. If you can afford a flight to Panama then you can afford to pay for a test. Fourth, the whole post sounds BS for all the reasons above and if you're that nervous about it then this isn't the thing for you to be doing.I agree, his post sounds fake. Although I am giving sound medical advice (which I myself have used in the past) I think his post doesn't make much sense. He went all the way to Panama only for a BBBJ with no sex? That right there sounds stupid AF. Then he's worried about STDs from getting a blow job? Again that sounds stupid as fuck.
This is most likely some kid in his parents basement fucking around on the internet while eating doritos and drinking mountain dew.
I just had my worst encounter yet. The chick looked good in the photos and when I arrived she didn't look as good but it was definitely the same girl so I said screw it because I had already been bamboozled once today by someone who definitely catfished me.
I should have known as soon as I entered that she had a bad attitude and just wasn't present at all. She said cancelemos primero (pay first) and I didn't think anything of it other than the fact that she looked at me when I asked how much as if she had suddenly dozed off or something. The warning signs were there, but as I said, I had been fooled once today and was just ready to be done for the day.
Anyway first she would not kiss or touch or do absolutely anything to turn me on. No besitos, nothing. I always skip on condom oral and especially this time because she done nothing to get me hard. Anyway somehow I get hard and I ask her to get in doggy style and she said no, she doesn't do that with anyone. So she proceeds to ride me but makes zero facial expression, looks straight ahead, and doesn't make any noise at all. Completely mechanical, might as well have been a robot. Anyway after some communication issues I just couldn't keep it up anymore and I told her I was just going to cum on her chest. She of course said no. I proceeded to ask, "do you do anything, why are you even advertising yourself if you're not willing to do anything"? Anyway she didn't get mad, as usual just a stunned face like a deer with the headlights on.
Idk, maybe she was on something, but I got proper mad before I left, even asked for change back as I paid for half an hour but it wasn't more than 15 min until I was completely done.
Ended up finding a young coastal girl that had only been working for three days. The sex was good and she didn't object to anything but as we were doing it her period came. I thought she was going to stick it in raw at first but I'm glad she didn't.
What a day.I think your expectations were a bit on the high side. Lots don't kiss. And when you wanted doggy were you sure she wasn't thinking anal. I don't think translating doggy would work, but I don't know how it was communicated. But any communication involving translation of butt or ass or rear entry or doggy probably would not have communicated. I just use the word cuatro, not sure about Colombia though. And the biggest one, when you are done you are done. That is true in most places. Half an hour means up to half an hour or when you come, whichever comes first. That applies to half hour bookings everywhere I go, but some will give you a massage for the balance of your time, although not usually. Booking for longer periods of time works differently, then they assume you are paying for, and expecting something more. Such as a massage or perhaps 2 shots, or long conversation. Anyway, how you describe what actually happened is not that different from many half hour experiences. What can make the identical actions or lack of actions different if the girl really turned you on just by her appearance or appeal to you. Then it might have felt very different.
I think your expectations were a bit on the high side. Lots don't kiss. And when you wanted doggy were you sure she wasn't thinking anal. I don't think translating doggy would work, but I don't know how it was communicated. But any communication involving translation of butt or ass or rear entry or doggy probably would not have communicated. I just use the word cuatro, not sure about Colombia though. And the biggest one, when you are done you are done. That is true in most places. Half an hour means up to half an hour or when you come, whichever comes first. That applies to half hour bookings everywhere I go, but some will give you a massage for the balance of your time, although not usually. Booking for longer periods of time works differently, then they assume you are paying for, and expecting something more. Such as a massage or perhaps 2 shots, or long conversation. Anyway, how you describe what actually happened is not that different from many half hour experiences. What can make the identical actions or lack of actions different if the girl really turned you on just by her appearance or appeal to you. Then it might have felt very different.I don't have high expectations, I really don't, but she made zero effort. I've never been with someone who just looked straight ahead and made zero noise. She had a decent body but I don't know who could get turned on when she's clearly not enjoying any of it.
There was no room for miscommunication, I said "en cuatro", "ponte en cuatro". If she had said "no hago anal" I would have said "vale, no quiero tampoco", but she didn't misunderstand me to mean anal or she would have asked to clarify. I've never heard of anyone refusing to do doggy style. I can't think of a good reason. And now I'm super curious as to why. Anyway after that denial I just wasn't into it at all anyway. And to be clear, I never finished because I was definitely done after she didn't even allow me to finish on her since she clearly was not present for sex.
But really, I understand not allowing anal, BBBJ, DATY, etc, but if you're going to charge for a service you should maybe at least pretend. The girl after was much much better, gave good kisses, let me finger her, moaned loudly and was talking, all the stuff that makes you want to keep going.
I didn't wanted to respond to everyone feedback but posting collectively.
First I am not a kid with parents or living is basement but I am not a seasoned like you all.
I didn't travel to Panama just for BBBJ. It was work related and I happened to meet the escort.
My issues are real and why would I fake up? My trip to Bogota is also work related and I will follow the advice from few members.
I am nervous as it is first time going through this. I can afford tests in NYC or Bogota but I will Google how in NYC as anonymous.
Thanks again.
Casa No Va
02-14-24, 19:29
I don't have high expectations, I really don't, but she made zero effort. I've never been with someone who just looked straight ahead and made zero noise. She had a decent body but I don't know who could get turned on when she's clearly not enjoying any of it.
There was no room for miscommunication, I said "en cuatro", "ponte en cuatro". If she had said "no hago anal" I would have said "vale, no quiero tampoco", but she didn't misunderstand me to mean anal or she would have asked to clarify. I've never heard of anyone refusing to do doggy style. I can't think of a good reason. And now I'm super curious as to why. Anyway after that denial I just wasn't into it at all anyway. And to be clear, I never finished because I was definitely done after she didn't even allow me to finish on her since she clearly was not present for sex.
But really, I understand not allowing anal, BBBJ, DATY, etc, but if you're going to charge for a service you should maybe at least pretend. The girl after was much much better, gave good kisses, let me finger her, moaned loudly and was talking, all the stuff that makes you want to keep going.Some girls are worried / paranoid that when on all fours the guy may decide to slip off the condom without them noticing. Also you never know what kinda day theyve been having or what client experiences they may have just had to get through before you. Sometimes if they are super hot I give them another chance another day and 50/50 the service is way more GFE.
Some girls are worried / paranoid that when on all fours the guy may decide to slip off the condom without them noticing. Also you never know what kinda day theyve been having or what client experiences they may have just had to get through before you. Sometimes if they are super hot I give them another chance another day and 50/50 the service is way more GFE.If there's a condom on then it was a stupid session to begin with. Most of them you can reason with to get them to agree to fuck without a condom and the ones that won't agree are not worth fucking.
JohnnieCash
02-15-24, 05:28
I don't have high expectations, I really don't, but she made zero effort. I've never been with someone who just looked straight ahead and made zero noise. She had a decent body but I don't know who could get turned on when she's clearly not enjoying any of it.
There was no room for miscommunication, I said "en cuatro", "ponte en cuatro". If she had said "no hago anal" I would have said "vale, no quiero tampoco", but she didn't misunderstand me to mean anal or she would have asked to clarify. I've never heard of anyone refusing to do doggy style. I can't think of a good reason. And now I'm super curious as to why. Anyway after that denial I just wasn't into it at all anyway. And to be clear, I never finished because I was definitely done after she didn't even allow me to finish on her since she clearly was not present for sex.
But really, I understand not allowing anal, BBBJ, DATY, etc, but if you're going to charge for a service you should maybe at least pretend. The girl after was much much better, gave good kisses, let me finger her, moaned loudly and was talking, all the stuff that makes you want to keep going.Heh asking WG for a money back, good luck with that LOL. Always pay afterwards and make sure she knows it beforehand.
TBH I don't even get how people can just roll the dice and decide to meet based on photos then wait and hope for the best. Nothing like meeting in person, ideally several of them, checking looks, temperature and attitude, then deciding whether to fuck there and then, but to each their own.
Mr Enternational
02-15-24, 05:44
TBH I don't even get how people can just roll the dice and decide to meet based on photos then wait and hope for the best. Nothing like meeting in person, ideally several of them, checking looks, temperature and attitude, then deciding whether to fuck there and then, but to each their own.Because for some of us it is like taking a breath of air (we will take another right after and not even remember a breath taken 3 weeks ago) and not like buying a house that we are going to have to live in for the next 30 years.
Just like we do not walk into a restaurant and gawk at other people's plates before we decide to sit down and ask for a menu. We sit down, ask for menu, order, eat. If we liked the meal then cool. If not, fuck it. It will not be the only meal of our lives.
I get it though. If you are only doing it once a year or every few years, then you may be more picky of how you want things to be.
I don't have high expectations, I really don't, but she made zero effort. I've never been with someone who just looked straight ahead and made zero noise. She had a decent body but I don't know who could get turned on when she's clearly not enjoying any of it.
There was no room for miscommunication, I said "en cuatro", "ponte en cuatro". If she had said "no hago anal" I would have said "vale, no quiero tampoco", but she didn't misunderstand me to mean anal or she would have asked to clarify. I've never heard of anyone refusing to do doggy style. I can't think of a good reason. And now I'm super curious as to why. Anyway after that denial I just wasn't into it at all anyway. And to be clear, I never finished because I was definitely done after she didn't even allow me to finish on her since she clearly was not present for sex.
But really, I understand not allowing anal, BBBJ, DATY, etc, but if you're going to charge for a service you should maybe at least pretend. The girl after was much much better, gave good kisses, let me finger her, moaned loudly and was talking, all the stuff that makes you want to keep going.Yep, she was not in to it and not even just providing a good experience. A dud, and that happens from time to time. All you can do is move on and call it a day.
Some girls are worried / paranoid that when on all fours the guy may decide to slip off the condom without them noticing. Also you never know what kinda day theyve been having or what client experiences they may have just had to get through before you. Sometimes if they are super hot I give them another chance another day and 50/50 the service is way more GFE.Whatever the reason whether paranoia or a bad day she should know that he is not going to be a repeat client.
SouthernOcean
02-16-24, 00:23
Will be at the Suites next week. Would be glad to meet for advice on the area. Good pharmacy. Sex store, online recommendations and the like.
IAmThatGuy
02-16-24, 21:46
I had traveled from NY to Panama last month and had unprotected bbj (oral and no sex) with a Venezuela escort. 4th day onwards got unusual symptoms like confusing headache and others like COVID.
Returned to NYC and did all sort of tests around 7th day. Nothing was unusual in results.
Now it is more than a month and some symptoms are there especially itching, tightness, pinching around penis / kidney area and occasionally headache with confusions.
I need to travel in a day or two to Bogota for about a week and was wondering if I can get tested completely and also meet any specialist in Colombia. Is it easy and doable within 1 week?
Or Should I do all tests, followups in NYC itself? But it would go on insurance and will get tracked by family and will stay on records as well..You can get tested through https://www.stdcheck.com. 139 $ full panel, it's completely anonymous.
JohnnieCash
02-17-24, 18:18
Just like we do not walk into a restaurant and gawk at other people's plates before we decide to sit down and ask for a menu. We sit down, ask for menu, order, eat. If we liked the meal then cool. If not, fuck it. It will not be the only meal of our lives.Restaurant is an established business with some social trust, some people eating, as well as often some online reviews (so more like a casa or club), not a rando on the internet offering to sell you some burgers "trust me bro, those are not minced stray dogs" (an online freelancer).
Because for some of us it is like taking a breath of air (we will take another right after and not even remember a breath taken 3 weeks ago) and not like buying a house that we are going to have to live in for the next 30 years.
I get it though. If you are only doing it once a year or every few years, then you may be more picky of how you want things to be.All of the breaths are essentially the same and unmemorable, so if that's you're experience with women then why even bother if it makes no difference. Anyway taking a breath is a bad analogy since it is something automatic and fundamentally out of your control, yes, you can play with a bit to a certain extent, but you cannot not take it for extended period of time (and live).
I for one have a limited amount of time (and breaths / meals) remaining in this life, less with each day, so I care if someone wastes it, I aim for every day to be an enjoyable or at least educational experience. The dud takes the time of good one, or other enjoyable activities, and that time won't be returned. With an IRL mongering at least I can grab another right away to rescue the day and it takes but a couple minutes to research, discuss and arrange it, so not like buying a house at all, nor like the endless / pointless discussions and unknown wait times & no shows when doing it online. The only advantage of a dud is that it makes me appreciate the good ones by comparison, so as long it happens rarely it still has some benefits in my book.
ChanceSome
02-18-24, 01:53
Howdy, I'm doing a quick trip to Bogota in March for a few days. I will be staying in Chapinero.
I've read the forum going back 6 months, and given my preference for GFE and short stay, an agency seems like the best bet. I'll still drop by Santa Fe to sightsee, but probably won't partake in anything since strip clubs don't do much for me.
Out of all the agencies, I like the girls on Encounters VIP the most. For me the most important physical aspect of a girl is her face, but all agency girls have their faces blurred. Apparently Encounters has a Diamond club where you can see the girl's face unblurred. Anybody know how to join this club or how much it cost?
Also it seem like La Celestina has something similar as well, any details on either La Celestina or Encounters would be appreciated.
Anyone interested in a new Bogota map? I'm thinking of starting one. All due respect to the WT69 and the work he's put in over the years and I understand the desire to earn from the work hes put in. , but for many reasons I don't think we should be paying for these maps.
Mr Enternational
02-18-24, 06:57
All of the breaths are essentially the same and unmemorable, so if that's you're experience with women then why even bother if it makes no difference.After well over 2000 chicks the special and memorable fantasy shit has worn off. Besides, are these hookers in search of something memorable with us? To me it is like flying. People that do not fly often or do not know you fly often always ask how was the flight. To people that fly often it is just like every other flight so there is no need to ask. We are not going to be like it was so amazing. You should have seen it. Same with hookers. I have had my dick sucked, ass licked, and cum swallowed so many times that it is nothing to get excited about and nothing that I have to make sure the girl will do before choosing her.
I bother because I know how to make my own fun and still have a good time. I am not fucking chicks to have something to remember in the future. I am fucking them to have fun today.
Yesterday on 2 different occasions I walked into a massage parlor (here in Ethiopia) and chose chicks by doing no kind of research or asking any kind of questions. In each 1 hour session the massage was $5 and the fucking was $10. Great time had with both chicks, but will go to other spots today to try some different chicks in the same manner. No research and no questions.
Prelude141
02-18-24, 11:42
Anyone interested in a new Bogota map? I'm thinking of starting one. All due respect to the WT69 and the work he's put in over the years and I understand the desire to earn from the work hes put in. , but for many reasons I don't think we should be paying for these maps.It does not hurt to have one specifically for the newbies but please only indicate the well known and well ruined places.
I agree that if one does a map, this should not to make money but to share with a community.
That being said I have discovered a lot of places that are not on any map over the years and I would be reluctant to add them on a map, my concern is that the places become quickly flooded by american who think they own the world with their dollars and see the places ruined as many places before.
World Travel 69
02-18-24, 15:26
They were free.
Google did not like my maps.
I had them open to all.
I did not realize that they were open to all, including Children.
So, I had to make it Private for Adults only.
Anyone interested in a new Bogota map? I'm thinking of starting one. All due respect to the WT69 and the work he's put in over the years and I understand the desire to earn from the work hes put in. , but for many reasons I don't think we should be paying for these maps.
Anyone interested in a new Bogota map? I'm thinking of starting one. All due respect to the WT69 and the work he's put in over the years and I understand the desire to earn from the work hes put in. , but for many reasons I don't think we should be paying for these maps.Absolutely. Please start. The problem with WT69's maps is not just the cost but also the loss of privacy as a result of PayPal payment.
JohnnieCash
02-18-24, 16:25
After well over 2000 chicks the special and memorable fantasy shit has worn off. Besides, are these hookers in search of something memorable with us? To me it is like flying. People that do not fly often or do not know you fly often always ask how was the flight. To people that fly often it is just like every other flight so there is no need to ask. We are not going to be like it was so amazing. You should have seen it. Same with hookers. I have had my dick sucked, ass licked, and cum swallowed so many times that it is nothing to get excited about and nothing that I have to make sure the girl will do before choosing her.
I bother because I know how to make my own fun and still have a good time. I am not fucking chicks to have something to remember in the future. I am fucking them to have fun today.
Yesterday on 2 different occasions I walked into a massage parlor (here in Ethiopia) and chose chicks by doing no kind of research or asking any kind of questions. In each 1 hour session the massage was $5 and the fucking was $10. Great time had with both chicks, but will go to other spots today to try some different chicks in the same manner. No research and no questions.Not that I count but I'm probably somewhere around 1. 5 k mark and it's not that I am out there to make memories as my primary objective, I don't since I am not spend time on reliving the past experiences, there are better things to do (unless something bad happened then I try to see what can I learn from it and move on), if it is memorable then it's a byproduct. I am here to have fun now, on day-to-day basis.
You seem to sound like you just take whatever random chic, with no decision making or pause and can still have fun. If you can have fun with a dead cow or some argumentative girl or a saggy tits baby damaged one then good for you. I can't have fun nor fuck 'any' chick, it's a two-way street for me. Doesn't matter if got my dick sucked by a thousand chics in the past, if the one I'm with now refuses to do it then I still care about the annoyance, I could've been spending this time with another one that does and knows how to suck it, and the day only has so many hours left before it's over.
I'm not going to put an effort and spend my limited time to try to have fun experience with one that gives me a bitchy attitude or a cold shoulder, she doesn't deserve any time, attention nor money in my book, I prefer to put a minimum effort beforehand to dismiss and forget those instantly and move to another one.
Since I assume you looked at the chics in the parlor then you did some research, you didn't come in and said to mamasan 'send me whoever, I don't care'. Even if you'd say that, you still made a decision to use a business, so some kind of minimum standard of looks and service is already assumed and expected and the chics have been preselected by the business.
And it's not that I spend hours researching it, looking at photos or discussing the service, I don't even bother to do online stuff, all in need is couple moments of IRL interaction to see if she's good enough, I don't need to talk if it's a casa, but I do need to look at her face and body and preferably have some interaction. Well, anyway, you do you, since it works for you, and I'll do me, since it works me.
Anyone interested in a new Bogota map? I'm thinking of starting one. All due respect to the WT69 and the work he's put in over the years and I understand the desire to earn from the work hes put in. , but for many reasons I don't think we should be paying for these maps.It was free for a long time-- How much were they charging?
It was free for a long time-- How much were they charging?Minimal. Pretty sure it was under 5 dollars, World Travel can chime in and tell us exactly. I'm not sure if that was the price per map or for access to all his maps.
Either way, my plan is to start a map with the idea that I will never charge for access and the data underlying the map will always be available and free, anyone can download the data and feel free to start their own map. Should they feel the inclination.
Phreeman69
02-19-24, 14:11
My buddy and I rented an apartment Saturday and Sunday nights just north of Calle 85 across from the Four Seasons hotel. It was a perfect base to enjoy the Colombian party scene, Zona T. The area was packed on Saturday, less so on Sunday.
There are four monger clubs in the immediate area. It's no trouble finding them because there are touts everywhere handing out cards, and one guy walked us through three of them. They were all similar: very brightly lit, fairly empty bars with a few guys and 10 to 20 girls. When you enter a bell rings and the girls stand up, pick one, and then they sit down and look bored. A room upstairs costs 200-250 mil pesos an hour, and the girls are from 300-500 mil, maybe quoting more initially.
In Olimpo VIP I hooked up with a pretty 24 year old spinner, Andrea, while my wingman waited for me. We agreed BBBJ and GFE for 300 mil pesos (actually 250 + 50 if I came, which I told her would be a challenge for an old geezer like me.) She was a great fuck and gave awesome head. The room was fine and had a bathroom with shower.
A few caveats: Andrea kept trying to pull shit which I had to deal with firmly. First she insisted I pay upfront, then she said the BJ was with condom, finally she said we had agreed to 600 mil. I'm coming to believe this may be the way Colombians operate. I speak clear Spanish and I'm very explicit about terms beforehand so she backed down each time, and it didn't affect my experience.
Secondly the drinks in these places cost 50 mil pesos. We had five drinks but the total came to 350 mil after taxes and mark ups. Less than $100 US for two guys and treating girls, but just be aware since that's a lot for Colombia.
I'll add more in another post.
Phreeman69
02-19-24, 14:32
Sunday around 2:00 we walked around Santa Fe. There were girls on the street but the two open clubs we went into were completely empty.
We picked up two cuties, one 22 and the other 28, and took two rooms nearby at 25 mil pesos each for 30 minutes including a towel, soap, and condom. The rooms were fine, a little worn, with bathrooms and showers.
The girls' basic pitch was 80 mil pesos for a 15 minute quickie. I negotiated 30 minute GFE, BBBJ with CIM for 180,50 of which would be a tip (and I gave her 200 in the end). My friend paid his 100 mil and got a CBJ.
Mine was a decent fuck but the BJ wasn't the best. She said that she had only been whoring a month. My friend said his gave great head.
We bought them beers from a street vendor and stood on the sidewalk chatting afterwards. Very pleasant overall and not scary, although we were on our guard.
My buddy and I rented an apartment Saturday and Sunday nights just north of Calle 85 across from the Four Seasons hotel. It was a perfect base to enjoy the Colombian party scene, Zona T. The area was packed on Saturday, less so on Sunday.
There are four monger clubs in the immediate area. It's no trouble finding them because there are touts everywhere handing out cards, and one guy walked us through three of them. They were all similar: very brightly lit, fairly empty bars with a few guys and 10 to 20 girls. When you enter a bell rings and the girls stand up, pick one, and then they sit down and look bored. A room upstairs costs 200-250 mil pesos an hour, and the girls are from 300-500 mil, maybe quoting more initially.
In Olimpo VIP I hooked up with a pretty 24 year old spinner, Andrea, while my wingman waited for me. We agreed BBBJ and GFE for 300 mil pesos (actually 250 + 50 if I came, which I told her would be a challenge for an old geezer like me.) She was a great fuck and gave awesome head. The room was fine and had a bathroom with shower.
A few caveats: Andrea kept trying to pull shit which I had to deal with firmly. First she insisted I pay upfront, then she said the BJ was with condom, finally she said we had agreed to 600 mil. I'm coming to believe this may be the way Colombians operate. I speak clear Spanish and I'm very explicit about terms beforehand so she backed down each time, and it didn't affect my experience..Taxes a s mark ups lmao everyone knows I A tax is already included in the price and 50 mil for a drink? In Santa Fe you can fuxk for 50 mil.
Sunday around 2:00 we walked around Santa Fe. There were girls on the street but the two open clubs we went into were completely empty.
We picked up two cuties, one 22 and the other 28, and took two rooms nearby at 25 mil pesos each for 30 minutes including a towel, soap, and condom. The rooms were fine, a little worn, with bathrooms and showers.
The girls' basic pitch was 80 mil pesos for a 15 minute quickie. I negotiated 30 minute GFE, BBBJ with CIM for 180,50 of which would be a tip (and I gave her 200 in the end). My friend paid his 100 mil and got a CBJ.
Mine was a decent fuck but the BJ wasn't the best. She said that she had only been whoring a month. My friend said his gave great head.
We bought them beers from a street vendor and stood on the sidewalk chatting afterwards. Very pleasant overall and not scary, although we were on our guard.Sounds like you got taken advantage of here too. In Santa Fe the going rate is 40 mil to 50 mil for the street girls. BBBJ is 20 k more. I didn't post any reports but I spent 3 days in Bogota after I went to Leticia / Perú recently and I barebacked 3 vennies from Santa Fe for 100 mil each (1 hour sessions at my hotel on cra 13). Not just BBBJ but BBFS CIP.
Ill never understand why you guys like to pay double and triple.
Phreeman69
02-19-24, 16:04
So my friend is trying on jeans at a high end shop in Zona T Sunday evening, and I start chatting to these two Colombianas who are walking by, both in their thirties and dressed like regular girls out for a party. We take them to Irish Pub and spend a fun couple hours drinking and eating. The one I'm sitting next to is showing some cleavage and letting me get kind of touchy. The one with my friend nicknames me "the octopus" because l'm all hands, plus she's a smoker.
My friend makes some gentle inquiries as to whether they're pros, but somehow I convince myself they're civilians (wtf was I thinking). The result is that once we have them back in our two bedroom AirBnB, mine says she wants to be paid. First it's $200 US, then $100, and I counter with 200 mil pesos and we agree 300 mil.
I stick my dick in her face and tell her to suck it, and she responds, "Oh that's extra. " I realize that this is not going to work out, so I tell her to get the hell out.
My buddy wants to keep his. I'm mad and eventually get mine to leave, walking her down (which is required by building security, a good thing. They have a record of her ID), not paying her a penny. She's mad too.
The second girl stays the night but my friend said she was terrible. He gave her $100 US. She also reports that my girl has been texting, that she had gone to work at the Olimpo VIP, and bragged that she fucked two clients there that night.
This is the first I've heard of picking up hookers in the upscale Zona T bars. Lesson learned.
Howdy, I'm doing a quick trip to Bogota in March for a few days. I will be staying in Chapinero.
I've read the forum going back 6 months, and given my preference for GFE and short stay, an agency seems like the best bet. I'll still drop by Santa Fe to sightsee, but probably won't partake in anything since strip clubs don't do much for me.
Out of all the agencies, I like the girls on Encounters VIP the most. For me the most important physical aspect of a girl is her face, but all agency girls have their faces blurred. Apparently Encounters has a Diamond club where you can see the girl's face unblurred. Anybody know how to join this club or how much it cost?
Also it seem like La Celestina has something similar as well, any details on either La Celestina or Encounters would be appreciated.I am a big fan of La Celestina! I use them every time I am in Bogota. Very consistent quality!
Mr Enternational
02-20-24, 17:57
Ill never understand why you guys like to pay double and triple.Because it is cheaper than home.
Elvis 2008
02-20-24, 18:20
So my friend is trying on jeans at a high end shop in Zona T Sunday evening, and I start chatting to these two Colombianas who are walking by, both in their thirties and dressed like regular girls out for a party. We take them to Irish Pub and spend a fun couple hours drinking and eating. The one I'm sitting next to is showing some cleavage and letting me get kind of touchy. The one with my friend nicknames me "the octopus" because l'm all hands, plus she's a smoker.
My friend makes some gentle inquiries as to whether they're pros, but somehow I convince myself they're civilians (wtf was I thinking). The result is that once we have them back in our two bedroom AirBnB, mine says she wants to be paid. First it's $200 US, then $100, and I counter with 200 mil pesos and we agree 300 mil.
I stick my dick in her face and tell her to suck it, and she responds, "Oh that's extra. " I realize that this is not going to work out, so I tell her to get the hell out.
My buddy wants to keep his. I'm mad and eventually get mine to leave, walking her down (which is required by building security, a good thing..Personally, I think that most Colombian women, except for those inexperienced / scared or with money or rich BFs, will fuck for money. I had an older woman in far West Texas lecture me on Colombian woman. She was on a seven year mission and told me to watch out for Colombian women because going for men with money was part of the culture and not to get sucked into it. She was warning me about my gal and apologized later, but she was saying it to protect me. I appreciated it, but based on what she said and what I have seen IMO the line between regular women and hookers in Colombia is very very thin.
Is olypimo a good club to hook up? Anything real good and hot around zona T. I want to party and increase my chances. Also looking at some of the spas in the area. Please let me know some recommendations.
Up until now I've been mostly a GFE guy, finding girls online before I arrive, or at the most I've went to a casa or private apartment or two. I really haven't had many "domicilios".
But after arriving at enough nasty ass places with people all around, I'm close to being a "domicilio or nothing" type of guy. The apt I'm staying in now wants me to send the info of the girl to the owner and they will then send the info to the doorman. No way in hell is someone going to give me their info before arriving, and I'm honestly too nervous to try and just wing it and have them show up to see what happens.
I've stayed at places without a doorman and I didn't have to worry about having guests, I just brought them in. Honestly, I prefer it like that, even if it's a little more dangerous. Navigating apartments with doormen is just annoying and to be honest a bit embarrassing.
Manizales911
02-21-24, 16:37
Up until now I've been mostly a GFE guy, finding girls online before I arrive, or at the most I've went to a casa or private apartment or two. I really haven't had many "domicilios".
But after arriving at enough nasty ass places with people all around, I'm close to being a "domicilio or nothing" type of guy. The apt I'm staying in now wants me to send the info of the girl to the owner and they will then send the info to the doorman. No way in hell is someone going to give me their info before arriving, and I'm honestly too nervous to try and just wing it and have them show up to see what happens.
I've stayed at places without a doorman and I didn't have to worry about having guests, I just brought them in. Honestly, I prefer it like that, even if it's a little more dangerous. Navigating apartments with doormen is just annoying and to be honest a bit embarrassing.Talk to the doorman directly,"befriend" him, buy him a cheap meal and give him a decent propina and most likely he will allow you to bring in any girl with a proper ID that isn't a known bad apple. Have him hold the girl's ID until she leaves after you give him the OK to do so.
Mr Enternational
02-21-24, 16:55
Talk to the doorman directly,"befriend" him, buy him a cheap meal and give him a decent propina and most likely he will allow you to bring in any girl with a proper ID that isn't a known bad apple. Have him hold the girl's ID until she leaves after you give him the OK to do so.I have stayed in apartments in Bogota where there are 2 or 3 doormen and / or women behind the counter at a time.
JackTaggart
02-21-24, 17:15
Up until now I've been mostly a GFE guy, finding girls online before I arrive, or at the most I've went to a casa or private apartment or two. I really haven't had many "domicilios".
But after arriving at enough nasty ass places with people all around, I'm close to being a "domicilio or nothing" type of guy. The apt I'm staying in now wants me to send the info of the girl to the owner and they will then send the info to the doorman. No way in hell is someone going to give me their info before arriving, and I'm honestly too nervous to try and just wing it and have them show up to see what happens.
I've stayed at places without a doorman and I didn't have to worry about having guests, I just brought them in. Honestly, I prefer it like that, even if it's a little more dangerous. Navigating apartments with doormen is just annoying and to be honest a bit embarrassing.My post history has what I used to do. Never had an issue with that aproach and it took me no more than a few hours of messaging to find a good fit.
There are also buildings with Airbnb that are best of all worlds near the Chapinero casas, easy access to zona t and Santa Fe, and easy access to love motels. And security is there, but doesn't question anything. I used to make recommendations about buildings / listings, but people kept going goldilocks with me so I kind of gave up.
For many. Best of both worlds might be to have your Airbnb but then walk to love motels a few blocks away.
Hope this helps.
Talk to the doorman directly,"befriend" him, buy him a cheap meal and give him a decent propina and most likely he will allow you to bring in any girl with a proper ID that isn't a known bad apple. Have him hold the girl's ID until she leaves after you give him the OK to do so.Yup, I stayed at a small boutique hotel in Chapinero. Had tourists but most of the staff didn't have great English. I feel like the heavy American chains are more strict. I made a 3 day stay and made my presence known early as a normal guest, always dressed in business casual and kept quiet. By my 2nd day I didn't get as many looks. I got an Eroticas Bogota girl one evening. So I waited until shift change, made friendly with the door / desk man. Asked about dinner recommendations and tipped him for that which is plausible instead of doing it while the girl comes in. Ideally walk in with her, let her know beforehand the deal that she needs an ID and for her to pretend to be your date.
In reality mine was a little awkward since we didn't know our faces so the front desk found her before I did & we weren't 100%sure it was each other. She gave ID, no issue but awkward. Fucked an hour, walked out together, she leaves and I returned 30 min later so not obvious that it was just an HR session.
JackTaggart
02-21-24, 17:45
Talk to the doorman directly,"befriend" him, buy him a cheap meal and give him a decent propina and most likely he will allow you to bring in any girl with a proper ID that isn't a known bad apple. Have him hold the girl's ID until she leaves after you give him the OK to do so.With airbnbs there is no consideration you need to put into it being OK or with having to make nice with the doorman. All you need to do is message the hosts to find out the situation with the building and there are no issues. I've stayed at so many airbnbs. And some hosts will literally tell you to have fun, but if you get drugged it's your problem. If you look at 30 airbnbs in an area, maybe 10 will be an obvious no based on the stated rules. Message the other 20 and you'll find a few that there are no issues.
I've only had to document one of my visitors at one of my first airbnbs, but it was because I didn't do the research / messaging the host ahead of time. And even then it wasnt a problem. I certainly know the types of buildings / doormen / hosts that some of you are talking about. But it is 100% avoidable with some upfront messaging before you book.
The topic of ids is a whole nother thing. But the decent love motels check the ids. In the past if I've had any doubt, I go to a place that I know will ID. And problem solved.
Yea, this is such bullshit. I was staying at an airbnb and it was simiilar, according to building policy I would have to contact the owner of the airbnb and send the info of the girl before the front desk would let the girl in. The worst part was that this requirement was ONLY for AIRBNB guests staying in the building. If you were just a normal renter, there were no such regulations. Which is completely ridiculous. The host made it out to seem like no big deal, but can you imagine meeting someone at a bar or something and wanting to bring them home and having to message the airbnb host at midnight or 1 am and expecting them to respond in a reasonable timeframe? We should make a list of such buildings as well as list of the good GF ones.
Up until now I've been mostly a GFE guy, finding girls online before I arrive, or at the most I've went to a casa or private apartment or two. I really haven't had many "domicilios".
But after arriving at enough nasty ass places with people all around, I'm close to being a "domicilio or nothing" type of guy. The apt I'm staying in now wants me to send the info of the girl to the owner and they will then send the info to the doorman. No way in hell is someone going to give me their info before arriving, and I'm honestly too nervous to try and just wing it and have them show up to see what happens.
I've stayed at places without a doorman and I didn't have to worry about having guests, I just brought them in. Honestly, I prefer it like that, even if it's a little more dangerous. Navigating apartments with doormen is just annoying and to be honest a bit embarrassing.
Yea, this is such bullshit. I was staying at an airbnb and it was simiilar, according to building policy I would have to contact the owner of the airbnb and send the info of the girl before the front desk would let the girl in. The worst part was that this requirement was ONLY for AIRBNB guests staying in the building. If you were just a normal renter, there were no such regulations. Which is completely ridiculous. The host made it out to seem like no big deal, but can you imagine meeting someone at a bar or something and wanting to bring them home and having to message the airbnb host at midnight or 1 am and expecting them to respond in a reasonable timeframe? We should make a list of such buildings as well as list of the good GF ones.With thousands of Airbnbs and every version of rules you might find a list would be useless I think. The only solution is to check with the host before you finalize the booking to see if it is ok. But certainly if you own a house or apartment and put it on Airbnb you should have the right as a host to have whatever rules you need. And if some of those rules drive away business then that is a cost you pay.
I know that in the past when I had a unit on Airbnb I needed to have those types of rules because I was in a residential area and if neighbors saw anything like that going on my place would have been shut down in a heartbeat. So I always try to respect the rules that an owner may have, and just look somewhere else if I'm not wanted in a particular place.
With thousands of Airbnbs and every version of rules you might find a list would be useless I think. The only solution is to check with the host before you finalize the booking to see if it is ok. But certainly if you own a house or apartment and put it on Airbnb you should have the right as a host to have whatever rules you need. And if some of those rules drive away business then that is a cost you pay.
I know that in the past when I had a unit on Airbnb I needed to have those types of rules because I was in a residential area and if neighbors saw anything like that going on my place would have been shut down in a heartbeat. So I always try to respect the rules that an owner may have, and just look somewhere else if I'm not wanted in a particular place.
Respectfully, I did ask the host if guests were permitted. And he replied yes. He failed to mention that I would have to write him a message to get an approval for him beforehand. We obviously had 2 different ideas of what it means when one says "permitted". I ended up telling him that I did not agree with his interpretation and to give him credit, he gave me a refund for the days I had left on the reservation and I moved out of the airbnb early. But I still believe that my interpretation is the more accepted general one. You can decide for yourself. It was a pretty big inconvenience for me though when I had a chica come over only to get denied entry at reception.
You(general you, as in air bnb hosts in general, not you as in Zeos1) can make whatever rules you want from your experiences as a host. That is your right. But there is an argument to be made that if a host does not explicitly say that guests are not allowed in the reservation, one could reasonably presume that they are allowed. Prostitution is legal in Colombia as far as I know. Sex is legal in Colombia. If you do not want prostitution in your Airbnb, then say it. Otherwise, get your nose out of peoples business.
JackTaggart
02-21-24, 22:12
Respectfully, I did ask the host if guests were permitted. And he replied yes. He failed to mention that I would have to write him a message to get an approval for him beforehand. We obviously had 2 different ideas of what it means when one says "permitted". I ended up telling him that I did not agree with his interpretation and to give him credit, he gave me a refund for the days I had left on the reservation and I moved out of the airbnb early. But I still believe that my interpretation is the more accepted general one. You can decide for yourself. It was a pretty big inconvenience for me though when I had a chica come over only to get denied entry at reception.
You(general you, as in air bnb hosts in general, not you as in Zeos1) can make whatever rules you want from your experiences as a host. That is your right. But there is an argument to be made that if a host does not explicitly say that guests are not allowed in the reservation, one could reasonably presume that they are allowed. Prostitution is legal in Colombia as far as I know. Sex is legal in Colombia. If you do not want prostitution in your Airbnb, then say it. Otherwise, get your nose out of peoples business.Not really directing this to you, but trying to help people out that have had trouble. What you (and even I) would generally assume to be true in our home country is not automatically the same in a different country. I mean, to be honest even inside my home country I generally do not assume so that I can ensure I get the personal or business result that I want. You add in the fact that English likely is not their first language and / or the message is going through a translator. And you have even more room for misunderstandings.
When I interact with people from other countries (even other English speaking ones), I take care to phrase things maybe a bit differently to avoid unexpected results. For example in this situation with messaging the hosts, here is my script that I have used to avoid all issues with these questions. Even if all the things are not true, I word things in a specific way for my own reasons.
Hello! I am super excited about your airbnb. I am traveling for work and I am exploring different parts of Bogota to consider a longer term rental. I had a few questions. To help me make my booking decision.
1) is xyz available in the kitchen? I like to cook and wanted to know.
2) what type of work chair and power is available at the desk? I can't really understand from the pictures, and I typically work from the Airbnb 2 days per week.
3) What are the rules about guests? I have work friends in Bogota that sometimes will come over for a meeting or I will make dinner for after work. I also have a few friends that will travel from outside Bogota to stay over during the weekend and want to understand any policies.
4) some other random question from the listing.
Here is what it accomplishes:
1) it shows you are not here mongering / a regular nice guy. A lot of people don't like sex tourists. Specificly women hosts.
2) it shows you are respectful and understand how things often work in Colombia, or at least with buildings in the city.
3) it gives them more information about the different scenarios with guests so that they can better respond with information to help make my decision. Some people also respond to detailed questions with detailed answers.
4) the host MIGHT interpret this as an opportunity for a longer term foreigner rental, and might change their rules or put more thought into their response. I definitely have had this last one happen.
A good amount of the time, the host responds with specifics beyond just yes or no. I book the ones that give the specifics that I want to hear. Never had a problem. If I used a simpler script would I get the same results. I dunno, maybe. But I've never had an issue and it takes me essentially no effort to message the hosts, so I do it.
I agree with most of what you are saying. Seems like a good playbook to go by. In my case this particular building has rules specifically for AirBnb guests as opposed to "normal" renters. Those rules should have been explained when I asked if guests were permitted. As they are not normal. Typically I've never seen a building with rules specifically tailored towards AirBnb guests. Building rules usually are applied to everyone equally and any rules regarding prohibition of guests have been specifically the hosts rules. First time for everything I guess.
Not really directing this to you, but trying to help people out that have had trouble. What you (and even I) would generally assume to be true in our home country is not automatically the same in a different country. I mean, to be honest even inside my home country I generally do not assume so that I can ensure I get the personal or business result that I want. You add in the fact that English likely is not their first language and / or the message is going through a translator. And you have even more room for misunderstandings.
When I interact with people from other countries (even other English speaking ones), I take care to phrase things maybe a bit differently to avoid unexpected results. For example in this situation with messaging the hosts, here is my script that I have used to avoid all issues with these questions. Even if all the things are not true, I word things in a specific way for my own reasons.
Hello! I am super excited about your airbnb. I am traveling for work and I am exploring different parts of Bogota to consider a longer term rental. I had a few questions. To help me make my booking decision.
1) is xyz available in the kitchen? I like to cook and wanted to know.
2) what type of work chair and power is available at the desk? I can't really understand from the pictures, and I typically work from the Airbnb 2 days per week.
3) What are the rules about guests? I have work friends in Bogota that sometimes will come over for a meeting or I will make dinner for after work. I also have a few friends that will travel from outside Bogota to stay over during the weekend and want to understand any policies.
4) some other random question from the listing.
Here is what it accomplishes:
1) it shows you are not here mongering / a regular nice guy. A lot of people don't like sex tourists. Specificly women hosts.
2) it shows you are respectful and understand how things often work in Colombia, or at least with buildings in the city.
3) it gives them more information about the different scenarios with guests so that they can better respond with information to help make my decision. Some people also respond to detailed questions with detailed answers.
4) the host MIGHT interpret this as an opportunity for a longer term foreigner rental, and might change their rules or put more thought into their response. I definitely have had this last one happen.
A good amount of the time, the host responds with specifics beyond just yes or no. I book the ones that give the specifics that I want to hear. Never had a problem. If I used a simpler script would I get the same results. I dunno, maybe. But I've never had an issue and it takes me essentially no effort to message the hosts, so I do it.
These are great tips, thanks! Do you have any airbnb's you recommend? Or a good area to search? I am looking to maximize mongering time and I currently have a reservation for Tequendama Suites Bogota but I would prefer an AirBNB.
Not really directing this to you, but trying to help people out that have had trouble. What you (and even I) would generally assume to be true in our home country is not automatically the same in a different country. I mean, to be honest even inside my home country I generally do not assume so that I can ensure I get the personal or business result that I want. You add in the fact that English likely is not their first language...
Thanks for all valuable contributions. I have been wondering about visiting Flirt hotel. Anybody had any experiences from the place? Do you bring you company there, or do they have ladies on the premises. Any pointers will be greatly appreciated.
Not really directing this to you, but trying to help people out that have had trouble. What you (and even I) would generally assume to be true in our home country is not automatically the same in a different country. I mean, to be honest even inside my home country I generally do not assume so that I can ensure I get the personal or business result that I want. You add in the fact that English likely is not their first language and / or the message is going through a translator. And you have even more room for misunderstandings.
When I interact with people from other countries (even other English speaking ones), I take care to phrase things maybe a bit differently to avoid unexpected results. For example in this situation with messaging the hosts, here is my script that I have used to avoid all issues with these questions. Even if all the things are not true, I word things in a specific way for my own reasons.
Hello! I am super excited about your airbnb. I am traveling for work and I am exploring different parts of Bogota to consider a longer term rental. I had a few questions. To help me make my booking decision.
1) is xyz available in the kitchen? I like to cook and wanted to know.
2) what type of work chair and power is available at the desk? I can't really understand from the pictures, and I typically work from the Airbnb 2 days per week.
3) What are the rules about guests? I have work friends in Bogota that sometimes will come over for a meeting or I will make dinner for after work. I also have a few friends that will travel from outside Bogota to stay over during the weekend and want to understand any policies.
4) some other random question from the listing..I just used your script (with a few variations) to ask an Airbnb for my upcoming trip to Pereira if I can bring in guests and it worked like a fucking charm. She said I can receive guests under my own responsibility. I take that to mean I can bring whoever I want into the Airbnb at my own risk (I. E. If I get scoped, robbed, or found dead it's my own responsibility, they are not responsible).
It's a smaller place with a mini kitchen, flat screen TV and a mini fridge, hot water in the shower, with 2 beds and a private entrance. She said she can take out one of the beds and put a desk and chair in there for me to be able to work and she can add a coffee maker LOL.
The place has a real good location on Cra 8 between Parque Libertad and the other park along the same CRA. According to WT69's maps both parks have street talent so I'll be equidistant to 2 different venues for street meat.
Here's some screen shots of how I used your script and the response I got back from the Airbnb host.
Thanks again Jack.
Gabacho.
Respectfully, I did ask the host if guests were permitted. And he replied yes. He failed to mention that I would have to write him a message to get an approval for him beforehand. We obviously had 2 different ideas of what it means when one says "permitted". I ended up telling him that I did not agree with his interpretation and to give him credit, he gave me a refund for the days I had left on the reservation and I moved out of the airbnb early. But I still believe that my interpretation is the more accepted general one. You can decide for yourself. It was a pretty big inconvenience for me though when I had a chica come over only to get denied entry at reception.
You(general you, as in air bnb hosts in general, not you as in Zeos1) can make whatever rules you want from your experiences as a host. That is your right. But there is an argument to be made that if a host does not explicitly say that guests are not allowed in the reservation, one could reasonably presume that they are allowed. Prostitution is legal in Colombia as far as I know. Sex is legal in Colombia. If you do not want prostitution in your Airbnb, then say it. Otherwise, get your nose out of peoples business.Yep, I see your point. I have actually had a similar experience in Costa Rica where the host rules were one thing and the building rules, specifically applied to single woman guests, were not communicated before booking or by the host. And that sucks. I had a female friend fully booked with me beforehand, and the host had all of her ID info, but when she came to the building there was still a big hassle. It is very annoying. Eventually they let her in, but then said that I needed specific instructions from the host each day. I complained to the host and he did something so that at least they let her in after checking everything, taking a pic of her ID, etc. - every time she came to see me. Later I found out that the actual condo rule was if your booking was over a week or something you could have guests, as long as they were ok with the host, but under that they said no guests no matter what. Anyway. The place was very annoying. And the host certainly should let you know about the condo rules as well as his own. Before you put your money down with no refund.
Thanks for all valuable contributions. I have been wondering about visiting Flirt hotel. Anybody had any experiences from the place? Do you bring you company there, or do they have ladies on the premises. Any pointers will be greatly appreciated.I have heard it is a big rip off-- I know there is a post about it and the guy paid a lotta cash for not much.
JackTaggart
02-22-24, 23:23
I just used your script (with a few variations) to ask an Airbnb for my upcoming trip to Pereira if I can bring in guests and it worked like a fucking charm. She said I can receive guests under my own responsibility. I take that to mean I can bring whoever I want into the Airbnb at my own risk (I. E. If I get scoped, robbed, or found dead it's my own responsibility, they are not responsible).
It's a smaller place with a mini kitchen, flat screen TV and a mini fridge, hot water in the shower, with 2 beds and a private entrance. She said she can take out one of the beds and put a desk and chair in there for me to be able to work and she can add a coffee maker LOL.
The place has a real good location on Cra 8 between Parque Libertad and the other park along the same CRA. According to WT69's maps both parks have street talent so I'll be equidistant to 2 different venues for street meat.
Here's some screen shots of how I used your script and the response I got back from the Airbnb host.
Thanks again Jack.
Gabacho.Glad to hear it. One general suggestion is to consider adding the overnight work friend aspect in there too. You could also consider getting the work desk and chair for increased options for sex positions jaja.
My theory is to protect against a building that might not care about day time guests vs night time ones. I have no facts to support that though. Doesn't sound like it matters based on her response, but just wanted to better explain my reason to have the two guest scenarios.
Thanks for posting the Spanish version!
Would you mind sharing a link to the AirBNB you are talking about? I am looking for a place and that sounds like what I am looking for.
I just used your script (with a few variations) to ask an Airbnb for my upcoming trip to Pereira if I can bring in guests and it worked like a fucking charm. She said I can receive guests under my own responsibility. I take that to mean I can bring whoever I want into the Airbnb at my own risk (I. E. If I get scoped, robbed, or found dead it's my own responsibility, they are not responsible)...
So my friend is trying on jeans at a high end shop in Zona T Sunday evening, and I start chatting to these two Colombianas who are walking by, both in their thirties and dressed like regular girls out for a party. We take them to Irish Pub and spend a fun couple hours drinking and eating. The one I'm sitting next to is showing some cleavage and letting me get kind of touchy. The one with my friend nicknames me "the octopus" because l'm all hands, plus she's a smoker.
My friend makes some gentle inquiries as to whether they're pros, but somehow I convince myself they're civilians (wtf was I thinking). The result is that once we have them back in our two bedroom AirBnB, mine says she wants to be paid. First it's $200 US, then $100, and I counter with 200 mil pesos and we agree 300 mil.
I stick my dick in her face and tell her to suck it, and she responds, "Oh that's extra. " I realize that this is not going to work out, so I tell her to get the hell out.
My buddy wants to keep his. I'm mad and eventually get mine to leave, walking her down (which is required by building security, a good thing. They have a record of her ID), not paying her a penny. She's mad too.
The second girl stays the night but my friend said she was terrible. He gave her $100 US. She also reports that my girl has been texting, that she had gone to work at the Olimpo VIP, and bragged that she fucked two clients there that night.
This is the first I've heard of picking up hookers in the upscale Zona T bars. Lesson learned.Consider yourself lucky you weren't drugged and robbed. There are plenty of girls in bars in such places looking for guys "ready to party". Maybe what saved you was the airbnb and the security they had. A friend of mine was drugged with scopolamine and robbed, and they even woke him up to ask him where his laptop and phone chargers were. They just took small stuff it could fit in a backpack, but still the risk of being robbed by a more organized band that would max credit cards or even kidnap you are too big. Moreover, with all those venezuelans around feeling they could do whatever because if they are caught there is no way to prosecute them if they don't have papers. Legal system in Colombia sadly sucks.
Would you mind sharing a link to the AirBNB you are talking about? I am looking for a place and that sounds like what I am looking for.It's in Pereira, a smaller city in the coffee axis, it's not in Bogota. I just was telling Jack Taggart how his script had worked for me.
I have heard it is a big rip off-- I know there is a post about it and the guy paid a lotta cash for not much.Thanks, you are the veteran, so if you have not been there, it is probably not worth it.
Personally, I think that most Colombian women, except for those inexperienced / scared or with money or rich BFs, will fuck for money...Would you say this to be true in a high-middle-class area like Chapinero?
Anyone interested in a new Bogota map? I'm thinking of starting one. All due respect to the WT69 and the work he's put in over the years and I understand the desire to earn from the work hes put in. , but for many reasons I don't think we should be paying for these maps.This is a newish one I took from another forum (it's been around for a couple of months).
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1rCAtF4OgnKz4MVSCFi_K9i8AF1jax-rq&ll=4.61809952831542%2C-74.10046474794922&z=11
There are plenty of places in Chapinero plus some in the very south of the city for the most daring mongers.
Happy hunting.
This is a newish one I took from another forum (it's been around for a couple of months).
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1rCAtF4OgnKz4MVSCFi_K9i8AF1jax-rq&ll=4.61809952831542%2C-74.10046474794922&z=11
There are plenty of places in Chapinero plus some in the very south of the city for the most daring mongers.
Happy hunting.Nice map bro. Bogota is so much bigger than just santa fe. He needs to add in pink streets for 7 de Agosto and Primero de mayo street zones.
This is a newish one I took from another forum (it's been around for a couple of months).
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1rCAtF4OgnKz4MVSCFi_K9i8AF1jax-rq&ll=4.61809952831542%2C-74.10046474794922&z=11
There are plenty of places in Chapinero plus some in the very south of the city for the most daring mongers.
Happy hunting.Awesome map.
MaddTraveler
02-24-24, 23:46
LOCATION: 3 Weeks in as of yesterday. I chose an Airbnb in the North side close to Suba and Usaquen. Man I'm so impressed. The area is quiet and I'm able to work peacefully. So if you're a digital nomad like me I highly recommend this area especially if you're a couple. I say this bc it's a residential area, many one story homes, retirement homes, apt buildings, stores and restaurants. No bars or clubs in sight. But it works well if you're here to work or want to stay in a very safe area. I get starred at when I walk around and people ask me questions like where I'm from in stores and restaurants, due to no other Gringos around. Police stations or hubs are very visible. Food is also great in tihs area. Lived near Chapinero and Centro before and wasnt as good. One thing I do not see in Medellin is that these homes and apt buildings have live electrical wires around the top of the gates all around, with warning signs "high voltage", LOL, like you'll be electrocuted trying to jump a fence. Security here is insane. But as you all know, for you mongers all that shit can be thrown out of the window if you invite the wrong be in and she drugs your ass LOL. I must register a girl in advance to bring her here and def no working girls.
TOURS: Heck during previous trips I never cared for tours, in fact even during my last 5 months in Medellin I never visited guatape. But some local chic insisted to take me to the Presidential palace, plaza bolivar, la candelaria, few other spots I haven't been to. Shit was fun doing something other making appts with hos and strip clubs.
FAV SPOTS for Non Pros: Since I know couple chicas here incl one from prev trips. Our favorite to-go spot to hang is an area called Galleria, near calle 53rd. This is where you'll find lots of nice bars and restaurants, ex Colombian Pub, nice place to go on a Fri. / sat night to drink and dance, at normal prices I must say. A mid size red label bottle of whisky costs me like 85 k. Obviously you can also go to Zona T, a bit more upscale and much more expensive but I don't go there often except for when my hotel was close to it on prev viaje.
PUTAS: Outside of my couple regular-want to be novias, I've been to the Santa Fe areas few times. I prefer to bang the street chicas, and to me they look nice, dress nice, standing in those garage lobbys. Seen many solid 7/8's. I enjoy them bc I prefer to spend an hour and 150 k is usually enough and I don't do the 50-70 k rato quickies. Maybe it's just me but the quality in SF has gone up with the street chicas, they seem to dress more elegant a bit or it could be during diff hours. But when I walk around I have trouble picking, so many are super hot. Few of them gave me the ride of my life. I usually walk around few laps before I pick, go in the clubs for drinks, then out w a good idea who's going to get it.
In the SF clubs, I had a great experience in Troya w Natalia, looks and smiles exactly like Darcy Lynn from AGT, except the hair color, really no kidding. She was sweet, kisses, and lasted around 15 min 150 k mil a couple weeks back. Honestly one of the tightest and best pussies I've had in that area. She said she was new.
After her I realized most of those clubs charge 140-150 k for only 15 minutes which I find stupid. I never asked for the time prior, and started declining offers after a bad experience last weekend in Paisas. This vennie chic was sitting alone even though the club was full, dudes were looking at me crazy since I sat close to her. I guess they knew I'd fall victim. She at first offered me a dance, 50 K, and when I asked what else she does and how things work she said she only danced. It's possible she didn't detect my gringo accent yet. Bc after I declined, and another girl sat with me drinking, and pulled few hundreds mil pesos bills by accident to pay, she realized I had money and things changed quickly. I told second girl I wasnt interested since started talking too much. Basically told her we'll chat later.
The loner vennie came back laughing, and said she'll go upstairs with me for 140 k. She had a nice body and my ego got to me thinking I was special, she doesn't fuck most dudes, and making exception for me oh yeahh I'm the man. Being stupid and slipped on my game and I fell for hers. As soon as I paid her, then 10 k for room, things changed. She left the door opened wide I layed naked trying to talk to her mesera. I yelled yo close the fucking door and clearly did that intentionally to kill my mood. Then she came spending several minutes cleaning. Who the fuck cleans a condom? I'm thinking she's about the blow me and she said you're ready? Then quickly my shit went soft cause she doest suck dick LMAO. I wish I could tell yall her name to avoid her but forgot. Damn it. Then as we argued a bit someone knocked on the fucking door and she said time's up. I'm sure we were in the room for like 10 minutes, and I'm also sure she told that lady to come knock on the door quicker. No fucking, nothing and she ran out quick before I can put my pants on with my 140 k LOL.
This is partially my fault, especially bc she told me at first she didn't fuck and changed her mind, I should've known and paid attention to that clear flag. But instead I failed to use logic on this one. A good $40 lesson, well worth it, and I laugh still today with buddies about it.
I'd say at least once or twice a year, a good lesson is needed with putas to keep our guard on and remind us that most putas are actual thieves. This is everywhere, except there are some establishments where you can report them and you'd get your money back, or places like the DR where the police is mostly on your side. But in Colombia you'll always be the victim, the cops hate gringos here. The clubs don't give a shit since those girls are independent, plus many times those guys who beg you to go in, I must fight with them to give me back my change after I pay for a drink. Few times I've walked out without doing biz with a girl bc of this. I would pay for my drink and hers and they'd spend over an hour not bringing me my change, like hoping I'd forget it. Obviously this doesn't happen in most controlled casas. But beware.
I'm not cheap nor have money prob, but I'm just someone of principles and I really, really hate when a mfr think I'm stupid trying to take advantage of me. Like my blood will boil and ready to fight. I tip everyone who offers good or normal service, but when those guys try me, I'll leave the girl, I ask rudely for my fucking change and look at them right in the eye and give them no tip and walk out. Physically I'm not superman but I'm not small and I don't look friendly, that keep mfr at their distance no matter where I go. Few nights prior I was chatting a non working chica in the street, she was selling drugs and I simply was trying to get her number and asking her out. Her boss or pimp whatever came yelling at my face, I guess for wasting her time, I'm taller than the little fucker so I walked right to his face and asked him what's his problem. I'm quick to let people know I'm from the streets also and to not confuse me with mr nice guy, but she quickly went to argue w him, made a case for me said I was buying her a drink which I did LOL. She was like a 9, got the digits LOL. Yeah I'm sure he couldve been armed but you can't show street jeets your afraid of them. In my experience the more affraid you appear the quicker of a target you can become, they see you as a chomp.
When I stayed in a hotel in el centro medellin w a buddy that I met there, dude got robbed 3 times within couple weeks near the spot, and same thieves when they see me they just nod LOL. Thing I do is make eye contact, don't show fear, in fact you need to look like you're dangerous yourself, not to be fucked with, or somehow simply don't give the opportunity. (don't have money out, phone, etc). There isn't just one way to stay safe, but everyone who fall victims usually have one thing in common, they were an easy target. Not always, but it's either that or just unlucky. Clearly I'm speaking of solo traveling cause in groups no one will come at you like that. I learned many things being mostly a solo traveler. Even in my so called safe area. When I'm walking around and someone stares at me for more than 10 secs I stare right back at them intentionally till they look away. Like I see you too mfr LOL.
CLUBS / CASAS / MILEROTICS: Visited few other spots closer to me, met couple hotties in Club Sixty Nine. Found that club after I visited a girl from Mileroticos. Luna, 28,120 k for the HR she stays in a hotel in calle 65, same street as Pussy H. Luna had a super tight hole. OMG she was fucking awesome even though she said at first not to touch her pussy and breast. I managed to touch lightly and she didn't mind. Damn that was a great fuck. She was soo good that I decided to walk around a bit to see what's in that area for a second round that eve. Noted several casas nearby, walked in one that only had 3 girls, the boss lady / mesera said she was also on the menu and I fucked her for 50 k, great MILF pussy holy shit. One of the tricks I figured out is that in any area where they have hotels with many girls working, or strip clubs, casas, it means it's a tolerance zone. And if you came to the area for one, all you got to do is walk around and you'll find many others, or guys offering you to go in, handing biz cards, etc. That's how I found club sixty nine close by, 24 HR, prices 150-200 k /30 min-1 HR. Fuck monger maps, use Google maps and type "strip clubs, erotic, erotic masaje, adulto, etc. After you find one club or case, scroll down to see other related places". Also I use ErosMotel close by to meet with some mileroticos / photoprepago chicas.
I'm still researching my next destination / country in coming weeks, till then let the fuckery continue.
Safe Travels!
MaddTraveler
02-25-24, 00:38
Not really directing this to you, but trying to help people out that have had trouble. What you (and even I) would generally assume to be true in our home country is not automatically the same in a different country. I mean, to be honest even inside my home country I generally do not assume so that I can ensure I get the personal or business result that I want. You add in the fact that English likely is not their first language and / or the message is going through a translator. And you have even more room for misunderstandings.
When I interact with people from other countries (even other English speaking ones), I take care to phrase things maybe a bit differently to avoid unexpected results. For example in this situation with messaging the hosts, here is my script that I have used to avoid all issues with these questions. Even if all the things are not true, I word things in a specific way for my own reasons.- IF no. 3 about bringing guests is your main goal, this trick won't work. I truly do work remotely so I always ask similar questions like about having ethernet connection for my own router, the right speed, must have a work desk and ergonomic chair etc. I also ask about Electric stove, I rarely take a place w gas bc while in mde once I was getting sick for weeks and it was an undetectable gas leak, and you don't have to worry about that with electric stoves. Here's the problem w bringing guess pretending they're business buds or family LOL:
- First, most encounters will be at night.
- If real hookers, most are aren't going to dress like colleagues or clients, especially coming to visit after PM, yeah right.
- And the funniest of them all, Reception and Security staff will take notes that all your guests leaves after 30 minutes to an hour LOL. Unless your paying 1 M pesos for only overnight / several HR visits.
- I've dealt with that and still in this situation, in strict places with no WG I only bring real non pros, and confirm they're spending weekends, nights, etc. Even told them if they leave after minutes.
I'm in trouble since they'll be seen as WGs LOL. And I take WG to motels. I mean $5-15 usd is all you need for a motel.
- Point is, it's best to follow and honor the rules of your apt, besides, lots of Airbnbs and apts with no 24/7 security, just self checkins and you can bring anyone anytime. Not worth playing tricks and.
Games with words. As the building owner I'd wonder why you're 60 and all your colleagues are hot young blondes / brunettes in their early 20's? LOL.
All fun and games bruh. Cheers.
Elvis 2008
02-25-24, 01:04
Would you say this to be true in a high-middle-class area like Chapinero?That is not a middle class part of the city. Remember neighborhoods are rated from 1 to 6 with 6 being the richest. In Chapinero, the upper socioeconomic class predominates: 45.8% of the properties are stratum 6 and occupy most of the local urban area, 30.8% belong to stratum 4 properties, stratum 5 represents 11.7%.
Middle class would be neighborhoods where the majority of the neighborhood is rated as 3 or 4. And yeah, I think many Colombian women in the 1-4 stratums would have sex for money. When you get to 5 or 6, it is much less likely, but you do not want anything long term with the lower classes. IMO most are too poor to think long term with anyone outside of their neighborhood.
JackTaggart
02-25-24, 05:06
- IF NO. 3 about bringing guests is your main goal, this trick won't work. I truly do work remotely so I always ask similar questions like about having ethernet connection for my own router, the right speed, must have a work desk and ergonomic chair etc. I also ask about Electric stove, I rarely take a place w gas bc while in mde once I was getting sick for weeks and it was an undetectable gas leak, and you don't have to worry about that with electric stoves. Here's the problem w bringing guess pretending they're business buds or family LOL:
- First, most encounters will be at night.
- If real hookers, most are arent going to dress like colleagues or clients, especially coming to visit after PM, yeah right.
- And the funniest of them all, Reception and Security staff will take notes that all your guests leaves after 30 minutes to an hour LOL. Unless your paying 1 M pesos for only overnight / several HR visits.
- I've dealt with that and still in this situation, in strict places with no WG I only bring real non pros, and confirm they're spending weekends, nights, etc. Even told them if they leave after minutes.
I'm in trouble since they'll be seen as WGs LOL. And I take WG to motels. I mean $5-15 usd is all you need for a motel.
- Point is, it's best to follow and honor the rules of your apt, besides, lots of Airbnbs and apts with no 24/7 security, just self checkins and you can bring anyone anytime. Not worth playing tricks and.
Games with words. As the building owner I'd wonder why you're 60 and all your colleagues are hot young blondes / brunettes in their early 20's? LOL.
All fun and games bruh. Cheers.I think you misunderstanding the purpose. It's not to circumvent a buildings rules. It's to force the clear disclosure of what the actual rules are. And while I do suggest it could cause the host to change their rules - that would be so it would be in line with the buildings.
It allowed me to successfully avoid buildings and / or owners with strict rules 100% of the time. And it's allowed me to successfully book airbnbs with super easy / relaxed policies 100% if the time. I've literally had hosts tell me to have fun.
It also gave me validation that my reading of the rules, or lack of definition was correct.
There are tons of buildings that are so big that security doesn't even ask or care what you do unless it's like a hot mess. But those outlier situations are the mongers problem. And a hotel wouldn't put up with that. But I'm that same big building , the host might have their own self imposed rules that are worth bending.
So yes, #3 100% has the effect I think it does. Also. I happened to be there for work too and worked from the airbnb. Not that it really matters. I was just pointing out that it didn't have to be true for someone to ask the questions.
No where am I advocating bringing in street girls in for short stays. The topic was in general how to avoid overly strict buildings / owners that don't do a good job of disclosing the policy.
All the other stuff your saying is also on the monger. I don't happen to be 60 and bringing street girls. All under a completely different topic about being discreet when needed.
DandyMan51
02-25-24, 19:42
I think you misunderstanding the purpose. It's not to circumvent a buildings rules. It's to force the clear disclosure of what the actual rules are. And while I do suggest it could cause the host to change their rules - that would be so it would be in line with the buildings.
It allowed me to successfully avoid buildings and / or owners with strict rules 100% of the time. And it's allowed me to successfully book airbnbs with super easy / relaxed policies 100% if the time. I've literally had hosts tell me to have fun.
It also gave me validation that my reading of the rules, or lack of definition was correct.
There are tons of buildings that are so big that security doesn't even ask or care what you do unless it's like a hot mess. But those outlier situations are the mongers problem. And a hotel wouldn't put up with that. But I'm that same big building , the host might have their own self imposed rules that are worth bending.
So yes, #3 100% has the effect I think it does. Also. I happened to be there for work too and worked from the airbnb. Not that it really matters. I was just pointing out that it didn't have to be true for someone to ask the questions.
No where am I advocating bringing in street girls in for short stays. The topic was in general how to avoid overly strict buildings / owners that don't do a good job of disclosing the policy.
All the other stuff your saying is also on the monger. I don't happen to be 60 and bringing street girls. All under a completely different topic about being discreet when needed.In general I have noticed a few trends for buildings:
1. If a building requires a card key to go up the elevator, security is relatively lax. I am currently in Bacata and security is quite vigilant since anyone can go up the elevator so they need to be careful. In bulidings that require card access, they know that people can't go up.
2. If the age difference isn't too big, security tends not to notice. They really don't care about you bringing guests, they just want to make sure you don't get hurt or robbed. My last stay in Bogota, the guy in the room next to me was a 30 YO white guy who used to bring chicks in every other day. Never had a problem with the reception.
3. Most buildings don't actually have rules for guests. Most of the rules are set by hosts. I have been in many buildings where one host says I can bring guests but another says I cannot. Security has even told me different things.
4. If you generally look like a local, they can't tell much of a difference. Since Colombians come in all colors, it largely comes down to how you dress.
5. The larger and newer the building, the less likely the reception will recognize or remember you.
DandyMan51
02-25-24, 20:00
LOCATION: 3 Weeks in as of yesterday. I chose an Airbnb in the North side close to Suba and Usaquen. Man I'm so impressed. The area is quiet and I'm able to work peacefully. So if you're a digital nomad like me I highly recommend this area especially if you're a couple. I say this bc it's a residential area, many one story homes, retirement homes, apt buildings, stores and restaurants. No bars or clubs in sight. But it works well if you're here to work or want to stay in a very safe area. I get starred at when I walk around and people ask me questions like where I'm from in stores and restaurants, due to no other Gringos around. Police stations or hubs are very visible. Food is also great in tihs area. Lived near Chapinero and Centro before and wasnt as good. One thing I do not see in Medellin is that these homes and apt buildings have live electrical wires around the top of the gates all around, with warning signs "high voltage", LOL, like you'll be electrocuted trying to jump a fence. Security here is insane. But as you all know, for you mongers all that shit can be thrown out of the window if you invite the wrong be in and she drugs your ass LOL. I must register a girl in advance to bring her here and def no working girls.
TOURS: Heck during previous trips I never cared for tours, in fact even during my last 5 months in Medellin I never visited guatape. But some local chic insisted to take me to the Presidential palace, plaza bolivar, la candelaria, few other spots I haven't been to. Shit was fun doing something other making appts with hos and strip clubs.
FAV SPOTS for Non Pros: Since I know couple chicas here incl one from prev trips. Our favorite to-go spot to hang is an area called Galleria, near calle 53rd. This is where you'll find lots of nice bars and restaurants, ex Colombian Pub, nice place to go on a Fri. / sat night to drink and dance, at normal prices I must say. A mid size red label bottle of whisky costs me like 85 k. Obviously you can also go to Zona T, a bit more upscale and much more expensive but I don't go there often except for when my hotel was close to it on prev viaje.
PUTAS: Outside of my couple regular-want to be novias, I've been to the Santa Fe areas few times. I prefer to bang the street chicas, and to me they look nice, dress nice, standing in those garage lobbys. Seen many solid 7/8's. I enjoy them bc I prefer to spend an hour and 150 k is usually enough and I don't do the 50-70 k rato quickies. Maybe it's just me but the quality in SF has gone up with the street chicas, they seem to dress more elegant a bit or it could be during diff hours. But when I walk around I have trouble picking, so many are super hot. Few of them gave me the ride of my life. I usually walk around few laps before I pick, go in the clubs for drinks, then out w a good idea who's going to get it.
In the SF clubs, I had a great experience in Troya w Natalia, looks and smiles exactly like Darcy Lynn from AGT, except the hair color, really no kidding. She was sweet, kisses, and lasted around 15 min 150 k mil a couple weeks back. Honestly one of the tightest and best pussies I've had in that area. She said she was new.
After her I realized most of those clubs charge 140-150 k for only 15 minutes which I find stupid. I never asked for the time prior, and started declining offers after a bad experience last weekend in Paisas. This vennie chic was sitting alone even though the club was full, dudes were looking at me crazy since I sat close to her. I guess they knew I'd fall victim. She at first offered me a dance, 50 K, and when I asked what else she does and how things work she said she only danced. It's possible she didn't detect my gringo accent yet. Bc after I declined, and another girl sat with me drinking, and pulled few hundreds mil pesos bills by accident to pay, she realized I had money and things changed quickly. I told second girl I wasnt interested since started talking too much. Basically told her we'll chat later.
The loner vennie came back laughing, and said she'll go upstairs with me for 140 k. She had a nice body and my ego got to me thinking I was special, she doesn't fuck most dudes, and making exception for me oh yeahh I'm the man. Being stupid and slipped on my game and I fell for hers. As soon as I paid her, then 10 k for room, things changed. She left the door opened wide I layed naked trying to talk to her mesera. I yelled yo close the fucking door and clearly did that intentionally to kill my mood. Then she came spending several minutes cleaning. Who the fuck cleans a condom? I'm thinking she's about the blow me and she said you're ready? Then quickly my shit went soft cause she doest suck dick LMAO. I wish I could tell yall her name to avoid her but forgot. Damn it. Then as we argued a bit someone knocked on the fucking door and she said time's up. I'm sure we were in the room for like 10 minutes, and I'm also sure she told that lady to come knock on the door quicker. No fucking, nothing and she ran out quick before I can put my pants on with my 140 k LOL.
This is partially my fault, especially bc she told me at first she didn't fuck and changed her mind, I should've known and paid attention to that clear flag. But instead I failed to use logic on this one. A good $40 lesson, well worth it, and I laugh still today with buddies about it.
I'd say at least once or twice a year, a good lesson is needed with putas to keep our guard on and remind us that most putas are actual thieves. This is everywhere, except there are some establishments where you can report them and you'd get your money back, or places like the DR where the police is mostly on your side. But in Colombia you'll always be the victim, the cops hate gringos here. The clubs don't give a shit since those girls are independent, plus many times those guys who beg you to go in, I must fight with them to give me back my change after I pay for a drink. Few times I've walked out without doing biz with a girl bc of this. I would pay for my drink and hers and they'd spend over an hour not bringing me my change, like hoping I'd forget it. Obviously this doesn't happen in most controlled casas. But beware.
I'm not cheap nor have money prob, but I'm just someone of principles and I really, really hate when a mfr think I'm stupid trying to take advantage of me. Like my blood will boil and ready to fight. I tip everyone who offers good or normal service, but when those guys try me, I'll leave the girl, I ask rudely for my fucking change and look at them right in the eye and give them no tip and walk out. Physically I'm not superman but I'm not small and I don't look friendly, that keep mfr at their distance no matter where I go. Few nights prior I was chatting a non working chica in the street, she was selling drugs and I simply was trying to get her number and asking her out. Her boss or pimp whatever came yelling at my face, I guess for wasting her time, I'm taller than the little fucker so I walked right to his face and asked him what's his problem. I'm quick to let people know I'm from the streets also and to not confuse me with mr nice guy, but she quickly went to argue w him, made a case for me said I was buying her a drink which I did LOL. She was like a 9, got the digits LOL. Yeah I'm sure he couldve been armed but you can't show street jeets your afraid of them. In my experience the more affraid you appear the quicker of a target you can become, they see you as a chomp.
When I stayed in a hotel in el centro medellin w a buddy that I met there, dude got robbed 3 times within couple weeks near the spot, and same thieves when they see me they just nod LOL. Thing I do is make eye contact, don't show fear, in fact you need to look like you're dangerous yourself, not to be fucked with, or somehow simply don't give the opportunity. (don't have money out, phone, etc). There isn't just one way to stay safe, but everyone who fall victims usually have one thing in common, they were an easy target. Not always, but it's either that or just unlucky. Clearly I'm speaking of solo traveling cause in groups no one will come at you like that. I learned many things being mostly a solo traveler. Even in my so called safe area. When I'm walking around and someone stares at me for more than 10 secs I stare right back at them intentionally till they look away. Like I see you too mfr LOL.
CLUBS / CASAS / MILEROTICS: Visited few other spots closer to me, met couple hotties in Club Sixty Nine. Found that club after I visited a girl from Mileroticos. Luna, 28,120 k for the HR she stays in a hotel in calle 65, same street as Pussy H. Luna had a super tight hole. OMG she was fucking awesome even though she said at first not to touch her pussy and breast. I managed to touch lightly and she didn't mind. Damn that was a great fuck. She was soo good that I decided to walk around a bit to see what's in that area for a second round that eve. Noted several casas nearby, walked in one that only had 3 girls, the boss lady / mesera said she was also on the menu and I fucked her for 50 k, great MILF pussy holy shit. One of the tricks I figured out is that in any area where they have hotels with many girls working, or strip clubs, casas, it means it's a tolerance zone. And if you came to the area for one, all you got to do is walk around and you'll find many others, or guys offering you to go in, handing biz cards, etc. That's how I found club sixty nine close by, 24 HR, prices 150-200 k /30 min-1 HR. Fuck monger maps, use Google maps and type "strip clubs, erotic, erotic masaje, adulto, etc. After you find one club or case, scroll down to see other related places". Also I use ErosMotel close by to meet with some mileroticos / photoprepago chicas.
I'm still researching my next destination / country in coming weeks, till then let the fuckery continue.
Safe Travels!Good report. I'm glad you are having fun. The prices in the Santa Fe clubs are quite high on a per hour basis. I similarly got quoted 150 k for un rato and 240 k for 30 minutes, all covered at Troya which I rejected. The girl was hot but it just isn't worth it. For 480 k / hour you can get a semi-pro on seeking. IMO the best value in Santa Fe remains the street girls. If the girl at Troya was an 8, the girl I found on the street was a 7. But I paid the street girl 70 k for a rato with BBBJ and some LFK. I added another 50 k for another 20 minutes which at 120 k was way better value than Troya.
The club atmosphere is nice and the lap dances are cool but as you mentioned, there is no one to complain to for bad service as the girls are independent and can easily move to a new club.
MaddTraveler
02-25-24, 20:08
I think you misunderstanding the purpose. It's not to circumvent a buildings rules. It's to force the clear disclosure of what the actual rules are. And while I do suggest it could cause the host to change their rules - that would be so it would be in line with the buildings.
It allowed me to successfully avoid buildings and / or owners with strict rules 100% of the time. And it's allowed me to successfully book airbnbs with super easy / relaxed policies 100% if the time. I've literally had hosts tell me to have fun..Obviously anyone can do what they want. I wasn't trying to say you're 60 and you assumed I was referring to you. You made a public post in a monger forum, and perhaps many other gents that will follow your instructions and tips will be 60+. No humor these days? That's all that was.
It's pretty simple, just follow and honor someone's house rule is always best. To me respect goes a long way and I don't even have to explain the safety benefits. You were indeed referring to guests, aka WG. Then now you're saying you were not referring to that? All that eloquent writing and word plays to the hosts for nothing? You're using all types of complex explanations to have to lie about colleagues in the area that you don't have. I'm just saying, take from an experienced traveler that never ends well and it's wrong. These hosts and guards aren't slow. They know. Sometimes they want to keep your business and they say nothing, but you didn't play them.
I don't have explain why wrong is wrong do I?
Besides there are tons and tons of airbnbs w / o strict rules, easier to use those if you plan to bring in lots of women. When I'm in real vacas and not working, I rent places without reception, private entry, and bring 2-4 women a day for sport fucking with no issues. Different places exist for diff purposes.
Entonces, I know I know, us Americans are entitled and believe we can manipulate and exploit everything and everywhere, so I get it the attitude.
MaddTraveler
02-25-24, 20:55
Good report. I'm glad you are having fun. The prices in the Santa Fe clubs are quite high on a per hour basis. I similarly got quoted 150 k for un rato and 240 k for 30 minutes, all covered at Troya which I rejected. The girl was hot but it just isn't worth it. For 480 k / hour you can get a semi-pro on seeking. IMO the best value in Santa Fe remains the street girls. If the girl at Troya was an 8, the girl I found on the street was a 7. But I paid the street girl 70 k for a rato with BBBJ and some LFK. I added another 50 k for another 20 minutes which at 120 k was way better value than Troya.
The club atmosphere is nice and the lap dances are cool but as you mentioned, there is no one to complain to for bad service as the girls are independent and can easily move to a new club.It's a 25 min taxi drive for me to SF, but so worth it each time even w that bad experience in Paisas. The street girls are definitely worth it, some have offered even 50 k for a quickie. I must give credit to club Texas and California which I forgot to mention. Those girls arent the prettiest but they don't really charge for lap dances. But I always tip and some are pretty. If you go early Texas is usually crowded with locals, and the girls are nice. Just go to an outside hotel 10 k instead of inside the clubs since the rooms there arent so clean, at least when I did. 60-70 k for the girl. Same pricing in California late nights. Nearly empty but you can find few gems inside once in a while. Staff is a bit more attentive in those. When I arrive and walked a bit I want to sit and drink, converse, so the clubs are good for that, but again, so many beauties outside. After I chat with the chicas and bought them drinks, if I don't take them to a room I'll tip 20 k min and they seem to be impressed with that. Next time they see me or in the streets it's always titty hugs LOL.
Overalll SF's a good spot to hang and very safe. Something for everyone and for every budget.
Captain Solo
02-25-24, 21:35
Mexico City has the new int airport NLU (AIFA, Aeropuerto Internacional Filipe de Angeles) with 15 K feet runway, combined with the old MEX, both about 20 min taxi ride to Centro. They can handle lots of air traffic and are hubs with lots of cheap flights to South and Central America.
Cancun is one of Mexico's busiest airport, has lots of non-stop flights to various cities in Latin countries, Bogota, Medellin, Panama, Costa Rica ect. I have not checked but Cancun is a very popular vacation spot, so there should be nonstop flights to Rio and Buenos Aires.
Use MEX and CUN as gateways, you can book nonstop flights to Bogota or Medellin, Colombia for $617 RT. In MEX and CUN you can have short waits for connecting flights, or if fancy strikes, you can spend a few-day layover in each. Both are nice places to visit cheap:
Multi-city trip Economy $617.
Mon, Mar 25 VivaAerobus 3 HR 25 min TIJ–NLU Nonstop.
Mon, Mar 25 VivaAerobus 2 HR 15 min NLU–CUN Nonstop.
Thu, Apr 4 Avianca 3 HR 25 min CUN–BOG Nonstop.
Fri, Apr 12 VivaAerobus 5 HR BOG–MEX Nonstop.
Fri, Apr 12 Volaris 3 HR 35 min MEX–TIJ Nonstop.
Besides there are tons and tons of airbnbs w / o strict rules, easier to use those if you plan to bring in lots of women. When I'm in real vacas and not working, I rent places without reception, private entry, and bring 2-4 women a day for sport fucking with no issues. Different places exist for diff purposes.
I agree with this, and this is the way I'm leaning. I'the just rather avoid the time wasted, awkwardness, and bullshit of trying to bring a girl into a building with a doorman. I don't care about bribing them either, they can buy their own dinner. Sometimes the listing shows the outside so you know it's not a secured (apart from a locked gate) building. And if they don't mention guests, better to ask for forgiveness than permission. I know a lot of people are hesitant to be in a place without a doorman, but to me it's better, I don't even want to have to make small talk with them even if it's just me there passing by them everyday. Just want to go about my business.
Another thing is these places almost always have other people living there anyway, so if anything really happens you can just make some noise, even though it's unlikely. Just don't drink anything you didn't pour around someone new, simple as that. The place I was at before the secured building even had a business next door with a guard that always has an eye around the corner where I was staying, so that was honestly the best of both worlds.
I've stayed in two places like this. And I'm considering just renting some cheap place, barely furnishing it, and being done with it so I can do what I want for once and all.
But yeah, it's always the nicer buildings in the nice areas that you're going to have trouble.
I've just learned I'm not a street or casa or club type of guy. I'the rather be in my place, relaxed, not thinking about how many people have been in the bed, etc.
Elvis 2008
02-26-24, 18:47
Mexico City has the new int airport NLU (AIFA, Aeropuerto Internacional Filipe de Angeles) with 15 K feet runway, combined with the old MEX, both about 20 min taxi ride to Centro. They can handle lots of air traffic and are hubs with lots of cheap flights to South and Central America.
Cancun is one of Mexico's busiest airport, has lots of non-stop flights to various cities in Latin countries, Bogota, Medellin, Panama, Costa Rica ect. I have not checked but Cancun is a very popular vacation spot, so there should be nonstop flights to Rio and Buenos Aires.
Use MEX and CUN as gateways, you can book nonstop flights to Bogota or Medellin, Colombia for $617 RT. In MEX and CUN you can have short waits for connecting flights, or if fancy strikes, you can spend a few-day layover in each. Both are nice places to visit cheap:
Multi-city trip Economy $617.
Mon, Mar 25 VivaAerobus 3 HR 25 min TIJNLU Nonstop.
Mon, Mar 25 VivaAerobus 2 HR 15 min NLUCUN Nonstop.
Thu, Apr 4 Avianca 3 HR 25 min CUNBOG Nonstop.
Fri, Apr 12 VivaAerobus 5 HR BOGMEX Nonstop.
Fri, Apr 12 Volaris 3 HR 35 min MEXTIJ Nonstop.CS, that is not that cheap. With advanced planning in not super busy times, you should be able to get a round trip flight to Colombia for around $200 from Florida, for $300 from the rest of the East Coast and Central USA like Texas, and for $400 from the West Coast. You want a search engine that includes Spirit. I think they have more flights to Colombia than anyone else.
Flight time from Texas to Colombia is pretty much the same as flight time from Mexico City which is around 5 hours. In contrast, Florida is a 2 or 3 hour flight from Colombia and you do not need to deal with Mexican customs.
Most people who fly to Colombia go through Miami or Fort Lauderdale. Thing is Spirit typically has dirt cheap seats available from Orlando and of those three cities Orlando is my preferred transfer city. So if being cheap is your bag, you can pick another low cost carrier like Frontier to get you to Orlando and then take Spirit in to Colombia.
I use skycanner.com to look at fares. I did find going through Mexico was often cheaper when going to Peru, but I have never seen it be cheaper when going to Colombia.
ChanceSome
03-01-24, 06:09
Going to be flying in next week to BOG. Any tips for getting through immigration quickly other than jogging as soon as I deplane?
I read that biomig is available for foreigners. But it doesn't specify if its for arrivals or departures.
MaddTraveler
03-03-24, 21:54
Going to be flying in next week to BOG. Any tips for getting through immigration quickly other than jogging as soon as I deplane?
I read that biomig is available for foreigners. But it doesn't specify if its for arrivals or departures.You pretty much said the only trick I know LOL. I skip going to the bathroom once I exit the plane and go straight in line. Otherwise you'll be behind hundreds and take much longer.
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