Cali Reports

[BayBoy]

I believe La Piscina has the wrong address listed. It should be Ave. 2bis, #34N-61. Its on the same street as Casa de Agua. If anyone is in Cali could they check it out.

[Kukulkan]

I believe La Piscina has the wrong address listed. It should be Ave. 2bis, #34N-61. Its on the same street as Casa de Agua. If anyone is in Cali could they check it out.Not sure, but I think la Piscina, the same one Cuba Nut reported about, is long gone.

My dos centavos Colombianos.

Kukulkan

[Olympo Host]

Hello guys,

I will be doing a photoshoot on my finca just outside of Cali. The pictures are for my Adult Vacation Service website and they basically consist of pictures of the girls hanging out on the finca (which is also the place where the clients stay). However, I was also looking to include pictures of one or two American-looking guys posing with the girls on the property to have pictures of "the experience" of clients enjoying the service. Your identity will be protected as your face will be blurred on the pictures. So, I was wondering if maybe some monger who is or will be in Cali during August would be interested in the treat. This is the place where the pictures will be taken: finca18. Com. I'm adding a couple of pics too. Contact me through here or through the contact info on the site.

Thanks.

[Camaro1257]

Hello guys,

I will be doing a photoshoot on my finca just outside of Cali. The pictures are for my Adult Vacation Service website and they basically consist of pictures of the girls hanging out on the finca (which is also the place where the clients stay). However, I was also looking to include pictures of one or two American-looking guys posing with the girls on the property to have pictures of "the experience" of clients enjoying the service. Your identity will be protected as your face will be blurred on the pictures. So, I was wondering if maybe some monger who is or will be in Cali during August would be interested in the treat. This is the place where the pictures will be taken: finca18. Com. I'm adding a couple of pics too. Contact me through here or through the contact info on the site.

Thanks.I checked your site but it was only in Spanish, in addition I am unable to send you a private message.

[World Travel 69]

Most Spanish web sites can be translated using the Google Browser, automatically.

[Aussie Greg]

Count me in, I'll be in Cali the first week of Sept and I'll bring another mate, Aussie Greg.


Hello guys,

I will be doing a photoshoot on my finca just outside of Cali. The pictures are for my Adult Vacation Service website and they basically consist of pictures of the girls hanging out on the finca (which is also the place where the clients stay). However, I was also looking to include pictures of one or two American-looking guys posing with the girls on the property to have pictures of "the experience" of clients enjoying the service. Your identity will be protected as your face will be blurred on the pictures. So, I was wondering if maybe some monger who is or will be in Cali during August would be interested in the treat. This is the place where the pictures will be taken: finca18. Com. I'm adding a couple of pics too. Contact me through here or through the contact info on the site.

Thanks.

[OrangeSun]

I would love to visit this country in future, so much beautiful silicon there LOL.

[Member #4244]

Not sure, but I think la Piscina, the same one Cuba Nut reported about, is long gone.

My dos centavos Colombianos.

KukulkanThis is also my understanding. There is still La Piscina and La Piscina del Dia in Bogota, both of which I would recommend highly.

[Orgasmico]

Anyone been to Cali around Christmas through New Years? How was it?

[Combo]

Anyone been to Cali around Christmas through New Years? How was it?Are you kidding? The coincides with La Feria de Cali, which is a fantastic event. If you like to dance and party, you will enjoy yourself immensely. Lots of opportunities with non-pros. OTOH, the pay-for-play scene may be a bit competitive at that time with so many visitors in Cali.

If you are at all interested in Afro-Latin Music and Dance, I highly recommend going during that time. I went in 2011 and had an outrageous time. In 5 nights, I saw El Gran Combo, Grupo Niche, Lebron Bros, Sonora Poncena, and Los Van Van. That is a Who's Who of all-time great Salsa Bands. And again, Chicas were incredibly friendly.

[Orgasmico]

Are you kidding? The coincides with La Feria de Cali, which is a fantastic event. If you like to dance and party, you will enjoy yourself immensely. Lots of opportunities with non-pros. OTOH, the pay-for-play scene may be a bit competitive at that time with so many visitors in Cali.

If you are at all interested in Afro-Latin Music and Dance, I highly recommend going during that time. I went in 2011 and had an outrageous time. In 5 nights, I saw El Gran Combo, Grupo Niche, Lebron Bros, Sonora Poncena, and Los Van Van. That is a Who's Who of all-time great Salsa Bands. And again, Chicas were incredibly friendly.OK, that's what I want to hear, thanks. Los Hermanos Lebron is one of my all-time favorites and I'm actually going to see La Sonora Ponceña tomorrow in NYC. I'd rather focus on the nons and use p4p to fill the gaps if necessary.

Anyone planning to be down there during this time?

[Ricker]

Anyone been to Cali around Christmas through New Years? How was it?The month of December is lots of fun, all the way up to the 24th, then it's deader than a door nail through about mid to even late January.

[Orgasmico]

The month of December is lots of fun, all the way up to the 24th, then it's deader than a door nail through about mid to even late January.OK, this seems to contradict what people are saying about Christmas to New Years being one of the best times.

[Ricker]

OK, this seems to contradict what people are saying about Christmas to New Years being one of the best times.Well actually, I misspoke.

I personally have found around mid December to be the most fun, then from Christmas to New Years to be fun with the Feria, shows, private parties, etc.

Trust me though, AFTER New Year's eve it is dead.

[Combo]

After la Feria, Cali is dead. Ironically, starting N. Year's Eve everything really quiets down. I think the Calenos are exhausted after five days of hard partying (plus a few weeks in preparation for la Feria). However, pay-for-play will be just fine after the Festival.

Organismo. I'm envious that you're there during that time. It's an incredible experience. I haven't heard who'll be playing this year, but they always have great bands. And the Chicas really let loose. I haven't been to the Festival of Flowers in MDE, but I imagine it's the same vibe.

[Ricker]

After la Feria, Cali is very quiet. I think the Calenos are exhausted after five days of hard partying (plus a few weeks in preparation for la Feria). However, pay-for-play will be just fine after the Festival.Actually even the pay-for-play gets much quieter after the la Feria.

Lots of chicas go home, outside of Cali.

I can remember being frustrated with very slim pickins at that time.

I'd say the worse time is semana santa Thursday thru Sunday, then New Years day for a week or so.

[Ken_Apples]

Actually even the pay-for-play gets much quieter after the la Feria.

Lots of chicas go home, outside of Cali.

I can remember being frustrated with very slim pickins at that time.

I'd say the worse time is semana santa Thursday thru Sunday, then New Years day for a week or so.Thanks Rick, this is good, valuable info to know for members planning a p4p vacation.

For what its worth, if your only timeslot-option to get out of sexprison is during Christmas / NY, a better option would be asia.

Thailand is always booming with action and there will be plenty of options to rock your socks off 24/7.

If the flight is to long for you, try get to Colombia the week before Christmas. Many girls looking for extra income to buy their Christmas gifts.

Regards, Ken Apples

[Nibu Raphael]

Hi,

I'm heading there in like week am in Manizales now. I heard last week there was a sicario attack in centro. Not sure what part of centro or day or night. I might stay in San Antonio ore Sextaarea centro too dangerous and no cheap hotels there for a hell hole.

Ok other news I heard they planning another big strike in Colombia September 12th should I get there before that date? If any one knows for about two weeks they been striking bad in Colombia, most of the violence has been in the Bogota area or south of Cali going towards Ecuador the protesters held bus hostages broke windows too.

Then I heard up near Medellin the 'police were robbing campesinos. Manizales was no violence just paning of pots and truck horns but that was days ago.

Ok I wait here on the response,

Nibu

[Britisher]

Experienced monger in Cali after 10 years.

Looking for a wing man.

Send me a PM.

[Vegas Jeff]

Hi,

I'm heading there in like week am in Manizales now. I heard last week there was a sicario attack in centro. Not sure what part of centro or day or night. I might stay in San Antonio ore Sextaarea centro too dangerous and no cheap hotels there for a hell hole.

Ok other news I heard they planning another big strike in Colombia September 12th should I get there before that date? If any one knows for about two weeks they been striking bad in Colombia, most of the violence has been in the Bogota area or south of Cali going towards Ecuador the protesters held bus hostages broke windows too.

Then I heard up near Medellin the 'police were robbing campesinos. Manizales was no violence just paning of pots and truck horns but that was days ago.

Ok I wait here on the response,

NibuSicario attacks are part of Colombian culture. In Medellin and Cali there are many sicario attacks every day. Don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) people off or wander the streets at night and this won't affect you. Get used to hearing about it. Same with the police robbing the peasants. Doesn't affect you.

Colombians protest all of the time over different issues. They gather in these downtown areas to protest. Some of the poor areas can become crazy also. If I had a current trip planned and was staying in downtown I would relocate into an upper middle class area. In Medellin one can find rooms for similar or slightly above downtown rates in areas such as Belen. Much less air pollution and riff raff also. If you are insistent on staying near downtown just use common sense and be a little more alert than normal and you should be fine. The same applies for Cali as city dynamics are similar to Medellin. GL

[Nibu Raphael]

Hi Jeff,

Been to Cali twice before just want to stay safe, Last time I was there was walking in a bad part of centro with another monger past the sleazy adulult theater past scary sws and pimps saying shit at us to some of the clubs with girls, my friend said we could walked another way from behind to get there but I wanted to see as much sleaze as possible, I will be safe when I get there again, Thanks.


Sicario attacks are part of Colombian culture. In Medellin and Cali there are many sicario attacks every day. Don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) people off or wander the streets at night and this won't affect you. Get used to hearing about it. Same with the police robbing the peasants. Doesn't affect you.

Colombians protest all of the time over different issues. They gather in these downtown areas to protest. Some of the poor areas can become crazy also. If I had a current trip planned and was staying in downtown I would relocate into an upper middle class area. In Medellin one can find rooms for similar or slightly above downtown rates in areas such as Belen. Much less air pollution and riff raff also. If you are insistent on staying near downtown just use common sense and be a little more alert than normal and you should be fine. The same applies for Cali as city dynamics are similar to Medellin. GL

[Britisher]

Returned to Cali after 11 years. Last time I was here for a holiday and this time on work. I never imagined in 2001 that I would return here in 2013 for work. But such is life!

Self. Very experienced monger living full time in Buenos Aires.

I have very vague memories of my trip in 2001. No documented notes. I can't even recollect which hotel I stayed in but I do remember that I was able to meet non pros very easily here and Taxi drivers were conning types even then.

To cut long story short .

Hotel. Staying at Hotel Spiwak in Chipachipi Mal. For about 120 USD a night gross, its not a bad deal. A similar hotel in a bigger city would cost close to 180 USD. Recommended if you can afford it!

Day 1. Did not do anything. Very tired. Tried out eating Arepas. Highly recommended.

Day 2. Did 5 girls in 6 hours. Why? Out of boredom. Work was delayed till Monday. Had time to kill.

Place 1 :. Caprictlos. Calle 10# 3-60, Piso 3, dept 303. Nombre de edificio. Edificio Fidalgo. When you will arrive here, you will see a flight of wooden stairs. Take the stairs to the 3rd floor and ring the bell of door no 303. A nasty looking old woman opened the door and tried to grab my hand. I almost jerked my hand and was going away but she told me she has girls! I stopped and felt bold. It was afterall 1.30 in the afternoon. The building is busy and not so shady. Not much harm can happen in a building basis the location of this casa. Two girls were presented to me. One was like a 5/10 and the other 3/10. Probably aged 22 or so. Not in shape and average faces. But the price quoted was so low that I decided to do them just for heck! I paid 40,000 pesos (20 USD) for 1 hour with both of them. The service was average. They did give me a BBBJ though. I even came in the mouth but she quickly jerked her mouth away. I got a massage and a session 2. I did both the girls. Girls were not friendly but not hostile either. I used some charms and my good looks to my advantage and made them laugh. Service improved towards the end. But I got bored. I left in about 50 minutes.

Was it worth it? Depends on your outlook. I do really hot looking chicas (8/10 in looks) in BA for 2 hours in about 75 USD. So for 20 USD. What can you expect?

Next went and had awesome Colombian coffee in a awesome cafe house. Nombre. Juan Valdez. Recommended!

TAXI. I decided to hire the inhouse taxi of the hotel for my security as it was my first day in Cali. After having got violently mugged in Shanghai last year in a bar, I have become more circumspect and a wiser monger. I paid the taxi guy 15000 pesos / hour. Almost 7. 5 USD / hour. His phone no is available with me, should you be interested. Send me a PM. I liked his demeanour and his polite manners. And felt a "wing man" was watching my back! And that he was inhouse of the hotel, made me feel safe to go anywhere with him.

Place 2. Dr Amor. Avenida 2N, # 23N. 23. I have been to Dr Amor in 2001. They were in a different bigger building, however the style remained the same.

Sat on the sofa and looked for the kill. Their was no pressure by the guards. All wearing blue tooth and uniform looking v stylish. The chicas presented a couple of times.

Chica 1. Cute looking girl. Went to talk to her. I asked about DFK. Refused! But appreciated her honesty.

Chica 2. Asked about DFK. Agreed. Went in a room for 30 minutes cost 65000 pesos (approximately 33 USD). She was quite decent looking with a hot fake body. Big tits, big ass, good height, pleasant face. Refused dfk in the room. But I did not let it spoil my mood. Gave me a BBBJ for 5 minutes. Appreciated. Sex was below average. She seemed to get tired, fast. But money well spent as she was hot looking. I have her personal contact details. She does 12 hours in your hotel for 500K (250 USD). Not that I will indulge in it!

Chica 3. Really pretty face, pleasant personality. Name.Alisso. Looked immensely kissable. Asked her about dfk. She said "No". I said and with propina? She smiled. I said I wanted 1 hour of dfk as I loved her pretty face. She agreed and left on me top decide the dfk. Price for her for 1 hour. 70,000 pesos. (approximately 36 USD). Why such a small difference in price for 30 minutes, God only knows! I felt Chica 3 was better looking than Chica 2! But Chica 2 was younger! Did about 40 minutes of really intense DFK. 100% satisfied. No oral. Fucked her for 15 minutes. She seemed to enjoy the fucking. Paid her a propina of 15000 pesos (7.5 dollars). Did not pay more as she refused oral sin condom and refused me to let her come on her tits. But it was the best experience of the day. I recommend her to all.

PLACE 3. http://www.caraslindascolombia.com

Calle 17 Norte #5-N-33 Barrio Versalles. Cali-Colombia.

When you arrive here, its the tallest gate on No 33. Ring the bell. The security was very high. I was frisked thrice. Once each by 2 guys and then by a chica in my groin area. They were looking for a gun, perhaps. Ultimately 5 chicas were presented to me. All in about 19 22 yrs old. All about 6/10 or maybe 6. 5/10 in looks. Price. 40000 pesos for 30 minutes and 65000 for 60 minutes. Took a girl for 30 minutes. Tried to do DFK but she refused. I offered propina, she immediately agreed. But when I kissed her, she did not smell nice. So did not do more. She refused a BBBJ. But sex was nice. She seemed horny and had a extremely tight pussy. She is going to USA in Septembre for university and collecting money by doing this job. She allowed me to come on her tits. Paid her 15000 propina. 7.5 USD. I am not propina type guy but since I had promised to get better service, I gave it. She seemed happy with the propina and thanked me many times. By the way, they offered me water, and the moment I drank it, I was charged 5000 pesos for it (2.5 USD). Felt conned. Thought, it was on the house! I recommend going with a wing man to this place as their were too many men there and its a stand alone building. Say they do something inside to you, no one will ever know!

Will I return to these places. Perhaps to Dr Amor. Other places, No way!

Will I go to Cali for mongering. No way. For work, yes. For mongering, No!

Will I go to Cali to meet non pros. Yes, its a an option but their are better options for mongering and non pros combined in the world.

I might check out 3-4 more places tomorrow with the same driver as my wingman.

Thanks to people who have contributed to this thread and to Ken Apples who wrote me a personal mail giving me his experiences.

I have decided not to monger here in the night, considering the risks involved.

[BayBoy]

Good report Britisher. That Juan Valdez coffee shop is a treat to hang out in, I think you're talking about the one on Calle 17. Lots of Cali yuppies hang out there and tourists too.

As far as Caras Lindas goes I've been there 2Xs and both times walked out without sessioning with any chicas. Never have liked their selection of ladies. Safe location though in the Ave. Sexta area.

Dr. Amor is the best casa in Cali for quality, but if you like it down and dirty you can try Bar La 20 or Club Sonero on the south side Carrera 8. But go in the daytime, its a lot safer.

[Olympo Host]

Returned to Cali after 11 years. Last time I was here for a holiday and this time on work. I never imagined in 2001 that I would return here in 2013 for work. But such is life!

Self. Very experienced monger living full time in Buenos Aires.

I have very vague memories of my trip in 2001. No documented notes. I can't even recollect which hotel I stayed in but I do remember that I was able to meet non pros very easily here and Taxi drivers were conning types even then.

To cut long story short.

Hotel. Staying at Hotel Spiwak in Chipachipi Mal. For about 120 USD a night gross, its not a bad deal. A similar hotel in a bigger city would cost close to 180 USD. Recommended if you can afford it!

Day 1. Did not do anything. Very tired. Tried out eating Arepas. Highly recommended.

Day 2. Did 5 girls in 6 hours. Why? Out of boredom. Work was delayed till Monday. Had time to kill.

Place 1 :. Caprictlos. Calle 10# 3-60, Piso 3, dept 303. Nombre de edificio. Edificio Fidalgo. When you will arrive here, you will see a flight of wooden stairs. Take the stairs to the 3rd floor and ring the bell of door no 303. A nasty looking old woman opened the door and tried to grab my hand. I almost jerked my hand and was going away but she told me she has girls! I stopped and felt bold. It was afterall 1. 30 in the afternoon. The building is busy and not so shady. Not much harm can happen in a building basis the location of this casa. Two girls were presented to me. One was like a 5/10 and the other 3/10. Probably aged 22 or so. Not in shape and average faces. But the price quoted was so low that I decided to do them just for heck! I paid 40, 000 pesos (20 USD) for 1 hour with both of them. The service was average. They did give me a BBBJ though. I even came in the mouth but she quickly jerked her mouth away. I got a massage and a session 2. I did both the girls. Girls were not friendly but not hostile either. I used some charms and my good looks to my advantage and made them laugh. Service improved towards the end. But I got bored. I left in about 50 minutes...I recommend you go to Tangas Deluxe, or simply "Deluxe". Downside is that is gets good only after 11pm when all of the girls arrive, they don't open duirng the day. Upside is that it has the best quality of girls in Cali, guaranteed. Prices are high, though, compares to the other places in the city. 200K COP for 30 min. The place is located at calle 5 with carrera 66, like three houses down from a BBVA bank on the corner. Or if you like something closer to you hotel, you can try "Flores Frescas / La Mansion Rosada" which is on Avenida 4 Norte and calle 20 or 21. You can ask your taxi driver, I'm pretty sure he's familiar with these places. And don't worry so much about the safety concern of mongering at night, so long as your cab wingman is taking you, you'll be alright.

[Mr Enternational]

I recommend you go to Tangas Deluxe, or simply "Deluxe". Downside is that is gets good only after 11pm when all of the girls arrive, they don't open duirng the day. Upside is that it has the best quality of girls in Cali, guaranteed. Prices are high, though, compares to the other places in the city. 200K COP for 30 min.During the day, I have seen the ones who live upstairs before they are glammed up and they are nothing to write home about. +US$100 for 30 min? Definitely not worth that.

[SavePros321]

During the day, I have seen the ones who live upstairs before they are glammed up and they are nothing to write home about. +US$100 for 30 min? Definitely not worth that.Especially considering the original poster (Britisher) said he did 5 girls for $100 USD in 6 hours, LOL.

[SirAssAlot]

Really want to go to Cali & Medellin but need wingman that's experienced there, or that speaks Spanish. I'm set to go both places a couple of weeks before Christmas, but going solo so if I can't find anyone. I may have to go somewhere like DR (where its safer). Please let me know if anyone is available or can advise me on any suggestions. Looking preferably for younger late 20s / early 30s (or older guys that can keep up LOL) if possible.

Thanks guys!

[Ricker]

Really want to go to Cali & Medellin but need wingman that's experienced there, or that speaks Spanish. I'm set to go both places a couple of weeks before Christmas, but going solo so if I can't find anyone. I may have to go somewhere like DR (where its safer). Please let me know if anyone is available or can advise me on any suggestions. Looking preferably for younger late 20s / early 30s (or older guys that can keep up LOL) if possible. Thanks guys!Hey I dig your handle!

Too bad, you lost me on your criteria for a wingman.

I'm too old and no way I could keep up LOL.

Good luck in the DR.

[Combo]

Really want to go to Cali & Medellin but need wingman that's experienced there, or that speaks Spanish. I'm set to go both places a couple of weeks before Christmas, but going solo so if I can't find anyone. I may have to go somewhere like DR (where its safer). Please let me know if anyone is available or can advise me on any suggestions. Looking preferably for younger late 20s / early 30s (or older guys that can keep up LOL) if possible.

Thanks guys!You really don't need a wingman in MDE. But if you insist, just stay at the Mansion or El Castillo and you'll have 10-12 wingmen.

Also Spanish, while it can improve your experience, is not necessary.

The DR, outside or Sosua or Punta Cana, is no safer or easier than Colombia.

I will be in MDE from Dec 15-22. If you're around then, I'd be glad to help you out.

[StudBucket]

You really don't need a wingman in MDE. But if you insist, just stay at the Mansion or El Castillo and you'll have 10-12 wingmen.

Also Spanish, while it can improve your experience, is not necessary.

The DR, outside or Sosua or Punta Cana, is no safer or easier than Colombia.

I will be in MDE from Dec 15-22. If you're around then, I'd be glad to help you out.So you are saying Combo that Sosua is safer than Medellin? I felt pretty safe in Medellin, so long as I stayed in the El Poblado / Parque Lleras areas. I plan on going to Sosua soon and wondering if it would be safe to go solo (without any wingmen).

[Combo]

So you are saying Combo that Sosua is safer than Medellin? I felt pretty safe in Medellin, so long as I stayed in the El Poblado / Parque Lleras areas. I plan on going to Sosua soon and wondering if it would be safe to go solo (without any wingmen).Definitely safe to go solo. Sosua is so small that you can't help but meet many fellow mongers. Just stay at one of the main hotels and most of the other guests will be there for the same reason as you.

You do have to be a bit careful with the girls in Sosua though. Have been many recent stories of guys getting setup by the girls they pick up at D'Latins and Rumba. But if you don't get too drunk and take the usual precautions, you should be alright.

[Camaro1257]

i spent 5 days in cali at parcero's penthouse and i would like to report the following:

parceros townhouse:

the townhouse is located in barrio santa monica residencial which is a quiet neighborhood with several other townhouses on the street. the town house is on the 4th floor which is on the top floor of the building. there are 2 front balconies and 1 rear balcony all of which provide an excellent view. i enjoyed the breeze in the late evening. and there is no elevator so be prepared to exercise. the townhouse is a 2 story with a winding staircase and 2 bedrooms down stairs and 2 bedrooms upstairs. there is a kitchen living room and small den with a television. i was given a key to my room the townhouse and the main door downstairs.

parcero usually has room for 3 other clients but my stay was solo. i got the master upstairs bedroom for 100, 000cop ($53. 00) per night which comes with breakfast. there was a cackling dog in the second floor townhouse that was so annoying that if i saw him i would kick him in the head.

there is no room safe however you can lock your door with a key and i had no reason not to feel secure. i have a combination lock on my carry on so a safe is not very important to me. the master room does not have air conditioning vents so it got stuffy at times and i used an area fan which circulated the air. it is hottest during the day from about noon until 4pm after which it is very cool and comfortable.

the wi-fi connection was excellent with great speed. parcero is obviously ocd because the entire place was immaculate and he was always seen sweeping or mopping. the advantage to parcero's townhouse is its location. you could do the majority of things you would like to do within a 15 minute radius.

language:

cali is not an international tourist destination like cartagena and medellin, therefore fewer people speak english. it is for this reason i would not recommend coming to cali unless you had some basic spanish; i promise you the dividends will pay off exponentially.

safety:

cali has a terrible reputation for being a dangerous city but after reading about chicago being the us murder capital i wouldn't be too worried. i walked around during the day and into the late evening solo on numerous occasions and at no time did i feel unsafe. barrio santa monica residencial put me in the mind of poblado in medellin, miraflores in lima, recoleta in buenas aires and el laquito in cartagena.

of course one should use the typical precautions that you would use travelling or for any major urban area where there is a great potential for crime. i had a specific itinerary whenever i was out and i always travelled with purpose so i had no problems.

weather:

the weather during my stay was quite pleasant, it was about 85 degrees during the day and 70 degrees at night. it was a dry heat with very little humidity so i didn't sweat that much. the early mornings and late evenings were very comfortable. the townhouse is situated at the foot of a hill so parcero would leave the windows open so we could get the breeze of the hill which was quite enjoyable.

noise:

the townhouse is about 3 streets from avenida sexta which is a main thoroughfare in cali. there isn't much noise in the early morning and late evening but during the day you can hear traffic going to and fro. as previously stated there were dogs that lived in the building that were a barking nuisance.

moviestar cellular:

moviestar cellular is located outside the chipechape mall. i got a sim card for 7000cop ($4. 00) and internet, text and telephone for a week for 20000cop ($11. 00).

cambio:

• wells fargo us: 1600cop.$1us.

• intercambio at the airport: 1780cop-$1us.

• euro express chipechape mall: 1800cop-$1us.

chipichape mall:

chipichape mall is the most famous mall in cali. it is a 10-15 minute walk from the townhouse and has an open air food court for your dinning pleasure and various shops for your shopping pleasure.

la comida:

if you are the type of person who travels to eat at burger king and kentucky fried chicken cali is not the place for you. cali provides an authentic latin american culinary experience. typical foods such as chicken, steak, beans & rice, soups and salads make the staple of the latin american diet. you can eat a hearty meal which includes soup, salad, meat, and 2 sides for between $3. 00.$7. 00 depending on the type of restaurant you are in.

desayunar:

every morning parcero would prepare breakfast in the town house consisting of an omelet of your choice in ingredients home fries and an arepa chocolo (which is a brown semi sweet arepa grilled with butter and honey)

almuerzo:

lunch can be had in a myriad of places but la fabrica buffet restaurant serves inexpensive tasty food. they serve meat, rice, vegetable, salad and a drink for 6000cop ($3. 00). the restaurant is a minute walk from the townhouse.

cena:

like lunch dinner can be had in a myriad of places but the chipichape mall has the largest selection in the area. frioles verdes served a bowl of sanchoco, chicken, rice and salad. the beverage was agua panela which is fresh sugarcane water and lemon. the entire meal was 14000cop ($7. 00). chipichape mall is a 10-15 minute walk from the town house.

olimpica supermercado:

the olimpica supermercado was a 5 minute walk from the townhouse. it was like a mini la sirena in puerto plata dr with a grocery store, bakery, butcher shop, drugstore, electronics and appliances and restaurant.

transportation:

• all taxis have a meter that is set at the beginning of the trip, most of my trips were less than 6000cop ($3. 00) when i rode to the other side of town i spent around 25000cop ($13. 00)

• the buses called mio and you have to buy a electronic debit card that is called a gane for 3000cop and you recharge it at different locations throughout the city. each trip 1600cop (.85) the buses were modern clean and air-conditioned.

casas de la citas.

las calenas 2: cra 44 #5b. 79b tequndama.

when i walked in the music playing was a mix between salsa and reggeton. i saw approximately a half dozen chicas which ranged from 6-8. most of them were glued to their cell phones which were plugged in the wall charging. i thought about blackbeard's policy of taking the chicas cell phones while they are at work because although the chicas i was checking out were 8's i was turned off by their in-attentiveness.

the increments are:

• 1 hour: 90, 000cop ($47. 00)

• 30 minutes: 50, 000cop ($26. 00)

• 20 minutes: 40, 000cop ($21. 00)

nuts & bolts (tuercas why tornillos) : calle 17n #5n. 33.

i went to nuts & bolts which is behind a big metal non descript door. you press the button and security opens the door has you face the camera and pats you down. then you stand in the center of the hallway and a chica comes out and pats you down again this time checking your package. about 7 chicas came out none of them were less than a 7 and a couple were pushing 9. the set up here was totally different from calena 2 in that there was no music playing or bar where guys could sit around and talk. you pick the chica you want do the deed then hasta luego. before i left my chica said she had to call down stairs and i spoke with the mamasan who asked me how was my service and i said "esta bien" even though it was average. parcero later told me that nuts & bolts is one of the strictest casas in cali. the increments are as follows:

• 1 hour 65000cop ($34. 00)

• 30 minutes 40000cop ($21. 00)

• 20 minutes 33000cop ($17. 00)

jc: avenida segunda b norte 34n 55.

the walls were white brick and there were plastic chairs with a small wall fan in the seating area. the chicas presented themselves and all of 5 of them ranged from 7-8 i was impressed with the line up from such a crappy place but they weren't the friendliest group. the increments are as follows:

• 1 hour 100000cop ($52. 00)

• 30 minutes 70000cop ($37. 00)

• 20 minutes 60000cop ($31. 00)

kaliente calle: 25 norte #2 bis-47.

kaliente wasn't too caliente you walk into a non descript house sit down in the living room and 3 chicas came out and introduced themselves. the chicas ranged between 5-6 and none were very inviting. the increments are as follows:

• 1 hour 100000cop ($52. 00)

• 30 minutes 70000cop ($37. 00)

• 20 minutes 50000cop ($26. 00)

the mediterranean spa: calle 28 norte #4n-72.

this casa had a very nice atmosphere that looked like a spa with comfortable chairs and beautiful pictures of models on the walls. there were 4 chicas who introduced themselves. the chicas ranged between 5-6 and all seemed to be very pleasant and inviting. the increments are as follows:

• 1 hour 80000cop ($42. 00)

• 45 minutes 55000cop ($30. 00)

the deluxe club: calle 5 #65-25.

this casa was very nice inside set up like a club with chairs a dance floor and stripper pole. there were 6 chicas that introduced themselves. most were 6's but there was one that looked like a model who fell out of a magazine she was a 9. this joint was plastic surgery central and some of the women looked like they were ready to explode. the tarifas here were ridiculous in comparison to the other cali casa and not worth the expense imho.

• 1 hour 250-350cop.

• 30 minutes 150-250cop.

la clinica dr amor: avenida 2n no 23n-23.

this casa was nice inside but it was obvious they were doing some renovations with unfinished paint on the walls. normally they pat you down but since i was with parcero i just got waived through. there is a big living room with several couches and you can be seated and wait for the chicas to come out and introduce themselves. i would rate most of the chicas between 7-8. there were about a dozen chicas present and maybe 1 or 2 were 9's. the tarifas are based on 3 different levels classic, vip and platinum and the chicas wear bands to indicate their status. the top end increments are as follows:

• 1 hour 90000cop ($47. 00)

• 30 minutes 70000cop ($37. 00)

la picina: next door to jc at avenida segunda b norte 34n 55.

although the talent pool fluctuates this was my favorite casa in cali because of the ambiance. the chicas hang outside and greet you as you walk in. there is a waiting area and a pool area where you sit and wait for the chicas to come out and introduce themselves. everyone i saw was decent ranging from 7-9 and they all seemed to be very pleasant. some casa girls it is obvious they don't want to be there but these girls had a very pleasant disposition.

• 1 hour 80000cop ($42. 00)

• 30 minutes 60000cop ($31. 00)

• 20 minutes 40000cop ($21. 00)

popular internet options:

i wanted to check out the internet options because some of the tarifas were very reasonable but i stuck in the cali casas because there were so many. below i have listed some of the internet options:

• mileroticos.

• las profesionales.

• caras lindas cali.

cabanas:

molino rojo apartahotel: calle 10#38-21.

in cali they call cabanas "hoteles" or "apartahoteles". i went to molino rojo apartahotel which has the same set up as cabanas in dr you drive into the garage and can pay at the front desk or in your room the a revolving small door which is used to take your money. i didn't get the time increments but i paid 25000cop ($13. 00) for 4 hours. the rooms were small but clean and very nice with a radio and cd player along with an 18 inch flat screen tv hanging from the wall. i spent time there because the civilian chica i was with lived too far from the townhouse.

chicas:

the subject of the most beautiful women in the world can be debated into eternity but i prefer colombianas because of their ethnic diversity from the european features to the afro-centric features. cali's afro-colombian population is significant (30% of cali's population is afro-colombian) which makes for an incredible mix. i spent time with 4 casa chicas and 1 civilian chica, but i enjoyed the last casa chica i spent time with the most not only because she was not in a rush but because i sensed a connection when we talked before and after.

observations:

• most of the people i encountered were very nice and friendly despite the fact that cali is the 3rd largest city in colombia.

• cali is different from medellin in that there is a significant afro-colombian population which makes for an interesting mix and helped me to blend in real well. at times i got looks and people couldn't tell if i was a caleno or a gringo.

• cali was different from cartagena because it is not a tourist town it lacked a beach and in general everything was less expensive. if there was a gringo tax it was hidden unlike cartagena where it is obvious you are getting gouged.

• you do not need fluent spanish in cali but it would be advisable to have basic spanish if you should decide to visit as there are not as many english speakers as in medellin or cartagena.

• cali has more casa de citas than you can count. in addition they open and close regularly and have varying ebb and flows throughout the course of the week with the weekends being the busiest time. my visit was during the slowest part of the week and i primarily did casas but i sense that the facebook, freelance and civilian chica market is very fertile here for a person who has the time to invest.

conclusion:

the biggest concern that many people would have with cali is the reputation it shared with medellin in the 1980's-90's with the medellin- cali drug cartels. pablo escobar is dead and although the drug trade is still alive in colombia the government has made significant strides combating the problem. even the problems the government was having with guerillas and para-militaries in the country side has seriously been abated. it is not that there is no threat in colombia it's that the threat is minimal and not a significant reason not to travel to this beautiful country. cali is no utopia by any stretch of the imagination however it is possible to do well with the right strategy. personally i have been to san salvador, el salvador the heart of ms13 and vera cruz mexico the heart of the zeta drug cartel so i have learned the strategy of keeping a low profile and making tactical strikes in order to get the job done.

my biggest impression beyond seeing beautiful women is the kindness of some of the people that i met. there were some who paid me no attention but others that were more than hospitable. as always one of the most valuable assets a traveler can have is someone on the ground who can serve as a guide advisor and inside contact. this person could be a taxista, a tour guide a chica or other person who has your best interest at heart. i was fortunate on this trip to meet a colleague of parcero who became mi mano de derecho and made my trip most enjoyable.

finally my time in cali was too short and i hope to return again.

[SavePros321]

My biggest impression beyond seeing beautiful women is the kindness of some of the people that I met. There were some who paid me no attention but others that were more than hospitable. As always one of the most valuable assets a traveler can have is someone on the ground who can serve as a guide advisor and inside contact. This person could be a taxista, a tour guide a chica or other person who has your best interest at heart. I was fortunate on this trip to meet a colleague of Parcero who became mi mano de derecho and made my trip most enjoyable.

Finally my time in Cali was too short and I hope to return again.Very well written and detailed Cali report. Thanks for sharing it with us bro!

[BayBoy]

Good report Camaro1257. You analyzed Cali very well. Like you said mongers need some Spanish skills, there's not a lot of English spoken, but you don't have to be fluent. You went to a lot of casas I've never been to, except Dr. Amor. Good that you put the addresses and prices in your report. There's a number of cafeteria type places in the north end that are real cheap in price but you get big meals. The main dish (beef, chicken, pork, or fish) , rice, beans, salad, fried banana, patacon etc. A place that I go gives you a choice of beans or pasta for around $5, 000 CP.

Your report makes me want to go back to Cali soon.

[World Travel 69]

Camaro1257:

Thanks, I updated the Map.

[SavePros321]

There is no room safe however you can lock your door with a key and I had no reason not to feel secure. I have a combination lock on my carry on so a safe is not very important to me.Did Pacero ever tell you why he does not have a safe in the room? I mean, if you are trying to attract mongers to your place, having a safe is pretty much standard issue.

[Manizales911]

Did Pacero ever tell you why he does not have a safe in the room? I mean, if you are trying to attract mongers to your place, having a safe is pretty much standard issue.Locking your valuables in your luggage or a pac safe is way safer than a safe. Recently my friend lost $1000. USD locked in a hotel safe in the DR. The hotel owner reimbursed my wingman $500. If he promised not to report what happened on these forums so I can't say where it happened but in addition to this incident you have the two in Sosua at Casa Cayena. I have the pac safes and love it.

[Camaro1257]

Did Pacero ever tell you why he does not have a safe in the room? I mean, if you are trying to attract mongers to your place, having a safe is pretty much standard issue.Parcero would be best to ask that question, if you like you can PM me and I will forward his contact information.

[Camaro1257]

Locking your valuables in your luggage or a pac safe is way safer than a safe. Recently my friend lost $1000. USD locked in a hotel safe in the DR. The hotel owner reimbursed my wingman $500. If he promised not to report what happened on these forums so I can't say where it happened but in addition to this incident you have the two in Sosua at Casa Cayena. I have the pac safes and love it.Pacsafes are good and I also have a combination lock on my luggage and a side compartment within the bag. I have not had a problem thus far.

[Camaro1257]

Cali on a budget: I budgeted $200. 00 per day not including airfare. My budget included lodging for this trip but I only ended up spending less than $150. 00 a day.

• Lodging $50. 00.

• Food & beverages $15. 00.

• Casa Chicas $50. 00 1 hour session.

• Transportation: $20. 00 (tours ect)

Obviously YMMV on the above listed figures. I don't drink alcohol or do party favors so that is never an expense for me. I didn't have as much sex as I would have liked which would have increased my bottom line but not by much because decent sex can be had at a relatively in expensive price. In retrospect my greatest expense for future trips would be the civilian chicas. The cost incurred would be taxi's, dinners and cabanas because most the chicas I met were spread out all over the city so there would be no way to get around transportation cost. I am totally not interested in renting car and driving in a strange city not only because of traffic but for convienence and safety sake; for me it would be better to stick with a taxista.

What is important is that I thoroughly enjoyed my trip and I came back with money in my pocket. In Miami I changed my COP back to US and I got kicked in theat$$ on the exchange rate but asi es la vida!

[Member #4394]

Great report. I enjoyed reading it.


Cali on a budget: I budgeted $200. 00 per day not including airfare. My budget included lodging for this trip but I only ended up spending less than $150. 00 a day.

[SavePros321]

Locking your valuables in your luggage or a pac safe is way safer than a safe. Recently my friend lost $1000. USD locked in a hotel safe in the DR. The hotel owner reimbursed my wingman $500. If he promised not to report what happened on these forums so I can't say where it happened but in addition to this incident you have the two in Sosua at Casa Cayena. I have the pac safes and love it.Thanks Mani. Looks like I'm the one who needs to update my methods of securing my stuff. I'll definitely look into pac safe for me next trip.

[BayBoy]

Cali on a budget: I budgeted $200. 00 per day not including airfare. My budget included lodging for this trip but I only ended up spending less than $150. 00 a day.

• Lodging $50. 00.

• Food & beverages $15. 00.

• Casa Chicas $50. 00 1 hour session.

• Transportation: $20. 00 (tours ect) When I go to Cali, my budget numbers are pretty close to yours. Usually $60 a day for hotel, and $60 a day for food, and sexo with the chicas. I stay close to Ave. Sexta so I can walk to all the venues, north side and south side (close to el centro).

I prefer a safe in my room, but always lock my luggage up everyday.

[SirAssAlot]

I went through Cali list but still couldn't determine what is best "monger central" hotel in Cali close to Sexta area, that caters to Americans (speaks English) & is chica friendly. Can someone please tell me hotel in Cali (other than Cali Plaza Hotel), that caters to what we do? Thanks!

[BayBoy]

I went through Cali list but still couldn't determine what is best "monger central" hotel in Cali close to Sexta area, that caters to Americans (speaks English) & is chica friendly. Can someone please tell me hotel in Cali (other than Cali Plaza Hotel), that caters to what we do? Thanks!There's not a lot of English spoken in Cali as has been mentioned before. Its not a big tourist or monger destination. There really isn't a 'monger central' hotel. I've been to 3 hotels in the Ave. Sexta area, beside the Cali Plaza, and 2 of them didn't speak any English at all and the other spoke just a little English.

The Cali Plaza Hotel is American owned, theres always somebody there that speaks English. I have my complaints about the place, but its adequate for me.

I don't know if those hotels are chica-friendly or not. I always do my thing on location.

Cali is a place where people go to AFTER you've been to Medellin, Bogota, and Cartagena.

[Chercheur]

Thanks Mani. Looks like I'm the one who needs to update my methods of securing my stuff. I'll definitely look into pac safe for me next trip.What is a pac safe and where can you buy it?

[Parcero]

All of the closets in the Penthouse have locking closet doors.

[RavenMax]

I spent 5 days in Cali at Parcero's penthouse and I would like to report the following:

Finally my time in Cali was too short and I hope to return again.Camaro1257,

I am going to Colombia next month. Do you have any pics of the girls in Cali? Especially the ones in Clinica Dr Amor or other good places.

[World Travel 69]

Parcero:

I try to PM you about your place.

Do you want it on the Hotel Google Map?

[Parcero]

hi,

just got an email saying my mailbox was full and so i emptied the whole thing, if there were any newer messages in there, send it to me again if you want to contact me.

plenty of room in there now.

i do not want to go in to details right now, but there is a lot of stuff i don't post because of problems in the past.

let me say this though; i have a place in cali available for you to stay at for 56 bucks per night, you get a humungous bedroom, locking closets, daily breakfast, maid service, massage girl on staff, english speaking driver to pick you up at the airport (50k), high speed wireless internet, local phone, and some guide service to get you on the right trac.

the place is in a very good area with buses and taxis a block and a half away, and chipechape mall a few blocks away, and dr amour, nuts n bolts, bubbles, la pacina, meditteranean spa, and others all within walking distance.

most dates are available.

contact me for your stay in november or december.

thank you.

[Ghost Deni]

Am I the only one who notices that a lot of the women around Carrera 8 have jaundice (yellowing of the eyes / skin)? Does anyone know the official (or unofficial) numbers on Hepatitis in Cali? I never do BBFS but am a little concerned about BBBJ with some of these women.

BTW, the reports are correct, the women there are about 20k for the hour and another 5-8k for the room (at least for me that is).

I also know of a run down building that is being squatted in by a bunch of SW's around that area. Price is 15k with them giving a part to the guy running the show. Definitely not for the faint of heart as the building is in horrible shape and the sheets look like they're never been washed. Someone mentioned liking bottom feeders. This is right up your alley! Last time I was there I only paid 10k for a quicky BJ. I have never actually gotten FS, just a CBJ standing up with my pants dropped to my ankles.

You will want to take special care in that area at night.

[BayBoy]

Am I the only one who notices that a lot of the women around Carrera 8 have jaundice (yellowing of the eyes / skin)? Does anyone know the official (or unofficial) numbers on Hepatitis in Cali? I never do BBFS but am a little concerned about BBBJ with some of these women.

BTW, the reports are correct, the women there are about 20k for the hour and another 5-8k for the room (at least for me that is).

I also know of a run down building that is being squatted in by a bunch of SW's around that area. Price is 15k with them giving a part to the guy running the show. Definitely not for the faint of heart as the building is in horrible shape and the sheets look like they're never been washed. Someone mentioned liking bottom feeders. This is right up your alley! Last time I was there I only paid 10k for a quicky BJ. I have never actually gotten FS, just a CBJ standing up with my pants dropped to my ankles.

You will want to take special care in that area at night.Interesting report from the Carrera 8 'hood.

In Club Sonero the chicas charge $30K for a half hour. Bar La20 the rate is $40K for a half hour.

Like you said the standard rate of the SWs on the street is $20K plus room. But there is a $20K rate for 20 minutes. That includes room and sexo. Some chicas won't do it, but many will. My last trip to Cali, I was in Plaza Caicedo and this old gal only wanted $10K plus room for sexo.

That Carrera 8 area is too dangerous for me at night, I agree.

[Member #4394]

The customers and security guys at Club Soleno told me that the street chicas around Crra 8 have diseases and I should not have sex w / them. They told me to deal with only chicas at Soleno and La20. But Bayboy may give a different account.


Am I the only one who notices that a lot of the women around Carrera 8 have jaundice (yellowing of the eyes / skin)? Does anyone know the official (or unofficial) numbers on Hepatitis in Cali? I never do BBFS but am a little concerned about BBBJ with some of these women.

[BayBoy]

Who knows what diseases the Carrera 8 SW chicas have. I imagine they have more than just hepatitis, probably all the sexual ones (gonorrhea, syphilis, AIDS etc.). That's the chances you take in the Carrera 8 'hood.

I admit that I've had BBBJs many times from the chicas there. Most chicas don't use rubbers. But never BBFS. Somehow I'm still standing and alive.

[Ghost Deni]

Someone mentioned safety in Downtown Cali being on par with Downtown Medellin. In my humble opinion they are night and day with Medellin being a lot worse. Once nightfall hit I made sure I was off the streets in Centro Medellin. Bands of glue sniffing kids all over the place as well as generally unsavory characters. Ill never forget when I got into a cab at around 8pm and told the driver where I needed to go, he triple checked all the locks on the car and made sure the windows were up before he pulled off. He told me that downtown Medellin is a "red zone" and not safe. I was told this by a casa owner also. In Cali I feel a lot more safe and notice that there are less homeless on the street and feel more comfortable as long as I dress down and walk with purpose. I do want to point out that I am brown skinned, so this has helped me blend in a lot better in Cali.

[Ghost Deni]

Went to Bar Le 20 last night. I guess I didn't read the forum well enough to realize that the bar does in fact have two locations (right across the street from each other). I liked this setup as I could sit in one bar for 30min or so and then go into the one across the street for some variety.

The best thing about this place is the affordability. I paid 2k for a soft drink and domestic beers were 2500 (can't beat that). The women were as described: Older and heavier. This isn't a problem for me as I like women with some meat on their bones, however, some of them were really over the hill. I would say there were about 20-25 girls in there with about 5 of them being fit and younger (27 or under). I paid 40k with room for a heavyset woman with long curly hair and big knockers (I'm a sucker for big breasts). The room was decent and had a little bathroom area and some porn playing on the TV. She washed me off and gave me an average CBJ followed by very mechanical sex. I'm not sure if it is the language barrier, but I am having a hard time getting anywhere near GFE in Colombia (that includes Bogota, Medellin and now Cali). I feel like the girls just hop on and want to get you off in as little time as possible. I gave her a 5k propina and returned to the bar.

On the GFE front I have tried several different approaches since I've been in Colombia. I have paid a ton up front in hopes of good service (350k) as well as the shortest time / cheapest available (15 min quickie) and tried to mention to the girl that the time would be extended and she could earn a tip with good service. What I have found that happens most of the time is that the girls make promises and once you hand over the money, they are back to the same poor service.

At this point, my trip to Colombia hasn't paid of economically. While the general quality of woman has been better than the USA, the service has been a whole lot lower. I'm the type of guy that would take a 5 or 6 with excellent service over a dead fish / clock watching stunner any day of the week.

What am I doing wrong here guys? Any help would be appreciated. I'm hoping to salvage this trip and have many more in the future!

[Bart1]

Someone mentioned safety in Downtown Cali being on par with Downtown Medellin. In my humble opinion they are night and day with Medellin being a lot worse. Once nightfall hit I made sure I was off the streets in Centro Medellin. Bands of glue sniffing kids all over the place as well as generally unsavory characters. Ill never forget when I got into a cab at around 8pm and told the driver where I needed to go, he triple checked all the locks on the car and made sure the windows were up before he pulled off. He told me that downtown Medellin is a "red zone" and not safe. I was told this by a casa owner also. In Cali I feel a lot more safe and notice that there are less homeless on the street and feel more comfortable as long as I dress down and walk with purpose. I do want to point out that I am brown skinned, so this has helped me blend in a lot better in Cali.I have lived the past 2 years in an apartment in el centro Medellin a block from the strip. Never had I have a problem and I travel solo. Sure you do not venture down near empty streets at night or in the daytime for that matter in el centro, that does not take too many street smarts. A very smart man once told me if you are not in bed by midnight go home, okay so push the clock and when you leave the club take cab. I have taken a cab for 3 blocks at 2am, big deal 4500cop. Cheap insurance for $3.

[Member #4394]

Don't give extra money upfront for GFE, since there is no causal relation between the two. Just like flu or lottery, GFE comes to you rather than you comming to GFE. Just try many chicas. Plus, wear stylish clothes and speak Spanish. Tell them how pretty they are.


Went to Bar Le 20 last night. I guess I didn't read the forum well enough to realize that the bar does in fact have two locations (right across the street from each other). I liked this setup as I could sit in one bar for 30min or so and then go into the one across the street for some variety.

The best thing about this place is the affordability. I paid 2k for a soft drink and domestic beers were 2500 (can't beat that). The women were as described: Older and heavier. This isn't a problem for me as I like women with some meat on their bones, however, some of them were really over the hill. I would say there were about 20-25 girls in there with about 5 of them being fit and younger (27 or under). I paid 40k with room for a heavyset woman with long curly hair and big knockers (I'm a sucker for big breasts). The room was decent and had a little bathroom area and some porn playing on the TV. She washed me off and gave me an average CBJ followed by very mechanical sex. I'm not sure if it is the language barrier, but I am having a hard time getting anywhere near GFE in Colombia (that includes Bogota, Medellin and now Cali). I feel like the girls just hop on and want to get you off in as little time as possible. I gave her a 5k propina and returned to the bar.

On the GFE front I have tried several different approaches since I've been in Colombia. I have paid a ton up front in hopes of good service (350k) as well as the shortest time / cheapest available (15 min quickie) and tried to mention to the girl that the time would be extended and she could earn a tip with good service. What I have found that happens most of the time is that the girls make promises and once you hand over the money, they are back to the same poor service.

At this point, my trip to Colombia hasn't paid of economically. While the general quality of woman has been better than the USA, the service has been a whole lot lower. I'm the type of guy that would take a 5 or 6 with excellent service over a dead fish / clock watching stunner any day of the week.

What am I doing wrong here guys? Any help would be appreciated. I'm hoping to salvage this trip and have many more in the future!

[Member #4394]

You are the man!


Who knows what diseases the Carrera 8 SW chicas have. I imagine they have more than just hepatitis, probably all the sexual ones (gonorrhea, syphilis, AIDS etc.). That's the chances you take in the Carrera 8 'hood.

I admit that I've had BBBJs many times from the chicas there. Most chicas don't use rubbers. But never BBFS. Somehow I'm still standing and alive.

[BayBoy]

Went to Bar Le 20 last night. I guess I didn't read the forum well enough to realize that the bar does in fact have two locations (right across the street from each other). I liked this setup as I could sit in one bar for 30min or so and then go into the one across the street for some variety.

The best thing about this place is the affordability. I paid 2k for a soft drink and domestic beers were 2500 (can't beat that). The women were as described: Older and heavier. This isn't a problem for me as I like women with some meat on their bones, however, some of them were really over the hill. I would say there were about 20-25 girls in there with about 5 of them being fit and younger (27 or under). I paid 40k with room for a heavyset woman with long curly hair and big knockers (I'm a sucker for big breasts). The room was decent and had a little bathroom area and some porn playing on the TV. She washed me off and gave me an average CBJ followed by very mechanical sex. I'm not sure if it is the language barrier, but I am having a hard time getting anywhere near GFE in Colombia (that includes Bogota, Medellin and now Cali). I feel like the girls just hop on and want to get you off in as little time as possible. I gave her a 5k propina and returned to the bar.

On the GFE front I have tried several different approaches since I've been in Colombia. I have paid a ton up front in hopes of good service (350k) as well as the shortest time / cheapest available (15 min quickie) and tried to mention to the girl that the time would be extended and she could earn a tip with good service. What I have found that happens most of the time is that the girls make promises and once you hand over the money, they are back to the same poor service.

At this point, my trip to Colombia hasn't paid of economically. While the general quality of woman has been better than the USA, the service has been a whole lot lower. I'm the type of guy that would take a 5 or 6 with excellent service over a dead fish / clock watching stunner any day of the week.

What am I doing wrong here guys? Any help would be appreciated. I'm hoping to salvage this trip and have many more in the future!Bar La20 No. 1 usually has more chicas than No. 2 across the street. More of an upbeat atmosphere. But I like those Colombian beer prices too, at 2500COP a guy can drink all day and it doesn't cost very much. Those Colombian dudes hit the booze strong, drinking the hard stuff and pitchers of beer. Bar La20 is the place for the 'full figured' women, big butts, big tits.

As far as the GFE goes maybe you should learn some more Spanish, it'll give you better communication skills with the chicas.

[Bart1]

I had not been in Cali for 2 years so decided to visit over the weekend. Caras Linda's which I liked the best 2 years ago is now called Tuercas and Tornillos [Nuts and Bolts]. I visited the first afternoon 30 minutes after arriving in Cali, my hotel was 1/2 block away. 6 or 7 chicas, did not partake, returned the next day after viewing 30 chicas at Dr amour's, my god I am missing Medellin. Anyway left the Dr's and returned to Nuts and Bolts, paid 6000 cop for a Poker beer, the Dr's was either 4000 or 5000 [ I gave the waiter 5k] for a Club Colombia. Partook for 30 min, average chica. The guy running the place was about 25 yrs old or so, his attitude both days was the total shits, it was like he was working in his dad's tire repair shop and hated his job and did not want to be there but had no chose. Visited La Veinte, cheap beer 2500 cop. 30 chicas, maybe one doable, left after one beer. Went to Divascali Ca 11 #22. 120, viewed 5 chicas, told others occupied. Its business card calls it a 'spa' place, so rooms have only the narrow massage tables. 60k for l hr HJ or BJ. 80k FS. I took the 60k and was told I could change to the 80k if I wanted when with the chica, which I ended up doing. The chica was great with massage, CBJ, GFE and I left with a big smile. This was on Saturday, they are closed Sunday. I phoned Monday morning and booked the same chica for Monday at noon, my god I do love those nooners, another great session. Beer cost 3000, boss man very friendly, great attitude, also some english, far cry from Cara Linda, s, even hailed me a taxi when leaving.

[Olympo Host]

Lovely Colombian women from Cali.

[Member #4287]

Lovely Colombian women from Cali.If you want to get American clients you need to rethink your lineup. 4th pic with the chick to the far left is the only one that is going to get a lot of attention from most gringos. The rest of the gorditas have to go. Pay Aussie Greg a consulting fee if you must. To get some advice on what north American and European guys like. Think Victoria's Secret models and not Chicas Car Audio!

Just my advice and I hope you do well.

[Nino Bravo]

easy cali hentai,

just because they don't meet your taste (skinny as a rail flacas) that doesn't mean all north american and european men think like you. i don't see anything wrong with these women, plus they could have faces like angels. some men dig that. of course, cali hentai, since you're so critical of these women's bodies, maybe you could post some pictures of yourself in a speed-o. on seconds thought, please don't. wonder what the caleñas and paisas really think of you without that $100 dollar bill taped to your forehead. it always amazes me how older, normal looking, unstylish, out of shape men can be so critical of women's looks and figures.

[Olympo Host]

Thanks for the advice Cali Hentai,

I really appreciate it. I do agree with you, in the sense that there is a tendency among American and Europeans for a certain look in girls, but I also like to think that is not necessarily a general rule, and that there are guys with different tastes for women, so I try to have a mixed lineup. I don't discriminate based on the Victoria Secret look, to be honest, in order to have quantity, but I also don't include any and every girl, which diminishes quality. There are other girls available in the catalog that are professional models and girls who are in fact Chicas Car Audio, but they won't do pictures for the catalog like the ones I posted as they're afraid people who know them in Colombia will find out. Some of them have already done pictures for the website lindapop. Com and they deeply regret it, so they are apprehensive about doing certain type of pictures. There are tons of hot women in Colombia who don't work in brothels or even do outcalls because of the fear of meeting someone who may recognize them and start the gossip, but when you tell them they only would work with Americans at a private secluded place where no one will know what they're doing, they love the idea and want to be part of it. There's a girl who is an odontologist, and another one who is a Medical student. Some are regular girls who are hot and want to use that to their advantage and make some extra income, but the idea that their family or friends find out that their doing P4P frightens them. I'll attach a couple pictures of other girls who are in the lineup.

My point is, the issue I'm having is not so much getting girls for the lineup, there are plenty who are hot and willing to work exclusively with americans (they love that idea). My problem has been more of a trust issue with clients. I'm looking to get guys that in the US and Europe pay $400 for an hour or $1000 for 3 hours and show them that in Colombia you get the same quality girl for a much longer period of time for the same price. The problem is that most of them have never been to Colombia and they have obvious red flags about traveling there. So right now for me is all about establishing that trust, and getting plenty of clients to come and see this is for real and provide them with an awesome experience so they come back and tell their friends.

Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated it, like yours Cali Hentai, thanks.


If you want to get American clients you need to rethink your lineup. 4th pic with the chick to the far left is the only one that is going to get a lot of attention from most gringos. The rest of the gorditas have to go. Pay Aussie Greg a consulting fee if you must. To get some advice on what north American and European guys like. Think Victoria's Secret models and not Chicas Car Audio!

Just my advice and I hope you do well.

[Olympo Host]

that was exactly what i was trying to say, except without the bit of hostility, because i honestly appreciate cali hentai's input, and i do agree with him to some extent in the sense that i also believe there is somewhat of a general look americans and europeans are into, but to nino's point, to generalize on what every american and european is looking for in a woman's body is not right since every guy has different tastes. personally, i would do each and every girl that appear in the group picture, maybe it is because i have seen their faces and met them personally, but i can also understand how other guys wouldn't be into them, and that's fine. hopefully you guys like some of the ones i posted without the blurred faces, they are also part of the lineup.


easy cali hentai,

just because they don't meet your taste (skinny as a rail flacas) that doesn't mean all north american and european men think like you. i don't see anything wrong with these women, plus they could have faces like angels. some men dig that. of course, cali hentai, since you're so critical of these women's bodies, maybe you could post some pictures of yourself in a speed-o. on seconds thought, please don't. wonder what the caleñas and paisas really think of you without that $100 dollar bill taped to your forehead. it always amazes me how older, normal looking, unstylish, out of shape men can be so critical of women's looks and figures.

[Jelly Donut]

I'll attach a couple pictures of other girls who are in the lineup.You understand that the pictures you posted can be quickly and easily searched for on the web, right? Sorry to suggest it if it is not the case, but my first impression is you may just be taking these photographs off individuals Facebook pages. The second thought is you might not understand the ease of searching photographs on the web these days. In any case, if you are concerned about maintaining the anonymity of these women you might look to have at least some of these photographs removed.

[Canyon]

Olympo.

I think your girls are great. I'm an American and I'm ready to come down to Cali right now. How do I find these girls in Cali?

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Canyon.


Thanks for the advice Cali Hentai,

I really appreciate it. I do agree with you, in the sense that there is a tendency among American and Europeans for a certain look in girls, but I also like to think that is not necessarily a general rule, and that there are guys with different tastes for women, so I try to have a mixed lineup. I don't discriminate based on the Victoria Secret look, to be honest, in order to have quantity, but I also don't include any and every girl, which diminishes quality. There are other girls available in the catalog that are professional models and girls who are in fact Chicas Car Audio, but they won't do pictures for the catalog like the ones I posted as they're afraid people who know them in Colombia will find out. Some of them have already done pictures for the website lindapop. Com and they deeply regret it, so they are apprehensive about doing certain type of pictures. There are tons of hot women in Colombia who don't work in brothels or even do outcalls because of the fear of meeting someone who may recognize them and start the gossip, but when you tell them they only would work with Americans at a private secluded place where no one will know what they're doing, they love the idea and want to be part of it. There's a girl who is an odontologist, and another one who is a Medical student. Some are regular girls who are hot and want to use that to their advantage and make some extra income, but the idea that their family or friends find out that their doing P4P frightens them. I'll attach a couple pictures of other girls who are in the lineup.

My point is, the issue I'm having is not so much getting girls for the lineup, there are plenty who are hot and willing to work exclusively with americans (they love that idea). My problem has been more of a trust issue with clients. I'm looking to get guys that in the US and Europe pay $400 for an hour or $1000 for 3 hours and show them that in Colombia you get the same quality girl for a much longer period of time for the same price. The problem is that most of them have never been to Colombia and they have obvious red flags about traveling there. So right now for me is all about establishing that trust, and getting plenty of clients to come and see this is for real and provide them with an awesome experience so they come back and tell their friends.

Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated it, like yours Cali Hentai, thanks.

[Phunluv]

While I of course enjoy being with thin women, I actually dig the "Chicas Car Audio" look as well. Not sure why so many guys get fixated on a certain look or type instead of tasting or exploring the variety one finds in nature, LOL! It's true the caleñas tend to be more full-figured, but I wouldn't throw any of those featured girls out of my bed should they happen to be there. I appreciate Cali because of its differences from Medellin. Most gringos never go beyond the tried-and-true spots in MDE, and never go further down, making Cali an "untapped" resource figuratively speaking! Which is fine by me, as I kind of selfishly like the idea of most gringos staying clear of Cali. If you're strictly into thin girls, then stick with MDE; but I would not be so quick to knock the women of Cali.

[SirAssAlot]

Hey Olympo Host!

The problem is your pricing costs need to reflect the demand for your talent more realistically. The more gorda the chica, they should realize and take into account their perceived value is typicially less attractive by general American standards. Hence the bigger the girl, the more the discount should be taken into effect. First of all $400-$1000 for any of these girls is ridiculously excessive and beyond what girls charge in the US for that matter, so that's definitely out of the question! If chica is NOT Victoria Secret model type, thats fine for there is also a market for more voluptuous body types, it just need to be discounted in the price and business will be consistent. The problem is some of these girls are below sub par standards physicially, yet still outrageous with their expectations. Personally, I'd take the more chubby ones in your pictures, because I'm looking for best deals on less desirable chicas and how it works in stronger correlation to a good attitude and company. As long as she's priced accordingly. So you can send me all those other Gringos don't like!


Thanks for the advice Cali Hentai,

I really appreciate it. I do agree with you, in the sense that there is a tendency among American and Europeans for a certain look in girls, but I also like to think that is not necessarily a general rule, and that there are guys with different tastes for women, so I try to have a mixed lineup. I don't discriminate based on the Victoria Secret look, to be honest, in order to have quantity, but I also don't include any and every girl, which diminishes quality. There are other girls available in the catalog that are professional models and girls who are in fact Chicas Car Audio, but they won't do pictures for the catalog like the ones I posted as they're afraid people who know them in Colombia will find out. Some of them have already done pictures for the website lindapop. Com and they deeply regret it, so they are apprehensive about doing certain type of pictures. There are tons of hot women in Colombia who don't work in brothels or even do outcalls because of the fear of meeting someone who may recognize them and start the gossip, but when you tell them they only would work with Americans at a private secluded place where no one will know what they're doing, they love the idea and want to be part of it. There's a girl who is an odontologist, and another one who is a Medical student. Some are regular girls who are hot and want to use that to their advantage and make some extra income, but the idea that their family or friends find out that their doing P4P frightens them. I'll attach a couple pictures of other girls who are in the lineup..

[Member #4287]

Thanks for the advice Cali Hentai,

I really appreciate it. I do agree with you, in the sense that there is a tendency among American and Europeans for a certain look in girls, but I also like to think that is not necessarily a general rule, and that there are guys with different tastes for women, so I try to have a mixed lineup. I don't discriminate based on the Victoria Secret look, to be honest, in order to have quantity, but I also don't include any and every girl, which diminishes quality. There are other girls available in the catalog that are professional models and girls who are in fact Chicas Car Audio, but they won't do pictures for the catalog like the ones I posted as they're afraid people who know them in Colombia will find out. Some of them have already done pictures for the website lindapop. Com and they deeply regret it, so they are apprehensive about doing certain type of pictures. There are tons of hot women in Colombia who don't work in brothels or even do outcalls because of the fear of meeting someone who may recognize them and start the gossip, but when you tell them they only would work with Americans at a private secluded place where no one will know what they're doing, they love the idea and want to be part of it. There's a girl who is an odontologist, and another one who is a Medical student. Some are regular girls who are hot and want to use that to their advantage and make some extra income, but the idea that their family or friends find out that their doing P4P frightens them. I'll attach a couple pictures of other girls who are in the lineup.

My point is, the issue I'm having is not so much getting girls for the lineup, there are plenty who are hot and willing to work exclusively with americans (they love that idea). My problem has been more of a trust issue with clients. I'm looking to get guys that in the US and Europe pay $400 for an hour or $1000 for 3 hours and show them that in Colombia you get the same quality girl for a much longer period of time for the same price. The problem is that most of them have never been to Colombia and they have obvious red flags about traveling there. So right now for me is all about establishing that trust, and getting plenty of clients to come and see this is for real and provide them with an awesome experience so they come back and tell their friends.

Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated it, like yours Cali Hentai, thanks.Sounds like you have a good plan to attract semi-pros and non-pros by keeping the meet ups and your place very private.

I simply wanted to point out that all you have to do is take a good look at what American marketers use for models to get a good idea of what appeals to most American men. But there is no harm really in keeping some of the thicker chicks around for your long tail marketing endeavors. Jajaja

I might be in Cali on the 9th of Nov. As a long time friend of mine is getting married in Cali.

[Olympo Host]

Thanks for the concern JD,

I understand the ease of looking up pictures on the internet, and that is exactly where I took these pictures from. Like I said, some of the girls are locally known models, and hence there is plenty of material of them on the internet. So I just googled their names and their pictures popped up. There are some who even have videos dancing and walking the runway on youtube. The first set of pictures I took in my house, that is why they have the blurred faces, the second set of pictures I did take from google images, since these girls are the sort of "famous" ones. And like I said before, there's a couple of them who did pictures for lindapop. Com and they regret it, since they were put on the web and advertised all throughout Cali, however, these girls do provide the service and well, the material is there to promote them. I know these girls because Lindapop did a couple of photoshoots in my place for their website (look up Juliana Montoya lindapop and Leslie Londoño lindapop, you'll see the same settings as the girls on the first group of pictures). They loved the idea of working exclusively for Americans, they told their girlfriends, their friends told their friends, and so on. But like I said in the other post, the problem with promoting these girls with pictures off the internet is trust. Precisely because you can get them with ease from the internet, well, anyone can take them, post them and claim those are the girls that will show up to provide the service. So the "too good to be true" thought comes to mind, and then the prevention to avoid an old bait and switch (which sucks ass). So basically, I have this great group of beautiful providers, but very few clients for them.

This might not be the ideal place for promoting, specially because they are not cheap, these girls definitely don't do the 60K-30min / 90K-1hr thing, but if any of the guys visiting Cali would like to try a long GFE with a high-end caleña provider, you can PM me to discuss details. Thanks for the comments JD.


You understand that the pictures you posted can be quickly and easily searched for on the web, right? Sorry to suggest it if it is not the case, but my first impression is you may just be taking these photographs off individuals Facebook pages. The second thought is you might not understand the ease of searching photographs on the web these days. In any case, if you are concerned about maintaining the anonymity of these women you might look to have at least some of these photographs removed.

[Nino Bravo]

i must disagree with you again. i really don't see american marketers using dark haired, latin women at all. the majority are blonds. men who travel to cali looking for women are attracted to their dark hair and latin looks, beautiful faces and big dark eyes. you, more than anyone, should know that the look in cali is a little more full figured. if a man wants a skinny as a rail, flat chested woman, he'd be better served traveling to the phillipines or asia.

of course, not everyone is a chick magnet like you, so i guess you can be selective. jajaja, but for the majority of men looking for a traditional looking colombiana, most of the women in the photos would serve them well, especially if they have beautiful faces.

i'm just wondering what one of those "thicker" chicas would say about you if they saw you in that speedo of yours. jajaja.

i'm sure many of these woman are very disappointed when told that some americans are traveling to cali to meet them, thinking that they are going to meet guys that look like brad pitt, then to their dismay, they are presented a bunch of cali hentais. jajaja

[Nino Bravo]

And as a follow up to my previous post. When American marketers do use latin women in their ads, they are using more full figured women like J Lo, Sofia Vergara, Selma Hayek; and not so much skinny as a rail Latinas like Penelope Cruz.

[SavePros321]

My point is, the issue I'm having is not so much getting girls for the lineup, there are plenty who are hot and willing to work exclusively with americans (they love that idea). My problem has been more of a trust issue with clients. I'm looking to get guys that in the US and Europe pay $400 for an hour or $1000 for 3 hours and show them that in Colombia you get the same quality girl for a much longer period of time for the same price. The problem is that most of them have never been to Colombia and they have obvious red flags about traveling there. So right now for me is all about establishing that trust, and getting plenty of clients to come and see this is for real and provide them with an awesome experience so they come back and tell their friends.

Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated it.The chicas in the photos are super-hot!

Ignore the advice of asking Aussie Greg for chica consultations. There is a reason why those skinny biotches that come to the Mansion could never demand more than 150, 000K COP. Half of those broads would have to pay ME to bang them.

Where Cali Hentai had it right is that SOME Americans like the skinny look, which is where Aussie Greg has his marketing correct.

BUT there are A LOT of other Americans such as myself that like and only want the look of the chicas in your photos. Colombian males also like this look, which is who you should target your marketing to FIRST! Just look at all of the skinny chicas getting ass implants in Colombia and such. They are trying to emulate the curvy look of the women in your photos, because that is what Colombian men want.

Trying to target Americans and Euros will lead to a disasterous marketing effort.

You also have to work on the pricing structure you are seeking. Why would an American or European travel all the way to Colombia risking life and limb to pay the same exorbitant prices that he could back home?

You are trying to convince them that in Latin America they could have women for a longer period of time for that amount, but I do not need to spend 4hrs plus with a pro. What if I paid $1000 and this chick turned out to be very mechanical in bed with a shitty attitude? No bbbj, no dfk, "just fuck me, but don't touch me". What am I supposed to do with a broad like this for 4+ hours?

Though not without its hassles, there are no shortage of options to finding paid sex in America and Europe. We are traveling because we want to find higher quality (GFE) at lower prices. It is the concept of "outsourcing" if you are familiar with the term and business practice. Also, most of us are smart enough to only pay a short time rate with a pro, and if she turns out to be a winner we invite her back for a much longer time at a higher rate.

[Mr Enternational]

BUT there are A LOT of other Americans such as myself that like and only want the look of the chicas in your photos. Colombian males also like this look, which is who you should target your marketing to FIRST! Just look at all of the skinny chicas getting ass implants in Colombia and such. They are trying to emulate the curvy look of the women in your photos, because that is what Colombian men want.

Trying to target Americans and Euros will lead to a disasterous marketing effort.

You also have to work on the pricing structure you are seeking. Why would an American or European travel all the way to Colombia risking life and limb to pay the same exorbitant prices that he could back home?Exactly. His business plan totally sucks. Just by reading the forum you will see that the few gringos who go to Cali are not trying to pay those prices. Second, why the hell would guys go to Cali and search for White American/European looking women? Third, you must not be really interested in making much money. In all of the times I have been to Cali I can count on one hand the times I have run into gringos (to tell the truth NEVER pops into my head). You might be better off trying to find some of the gringo big spenders who attend to business in Bogota to fall for this. Still, I don't recall ever seeing a guy in even that forum mention paying a chica the minimum 800,000 pesos that you are requesting. And do these girls even speak English? From this forum I gather that the majority of guys traveling to Colombia to monger do not speak Spanish. And if the monger is like me and speaks Spanish, then he is definitely less likely to fall for this seeing that they should have no problem picking up non-pros and pros on the local scene. Being a pimp is not as simple as it seems. You might have the women, but it seems that you don't know much about business/marketing. I guess part of your due diligence was posting this here though before you tried to put your plan into effect.

[Member #4287]

Exactly. His business plan totally sucks. Just by reading the forum you will see that the few gringos who go to Cali are not trying to pay those prices. Second, why the hell would guys go to Cali and search for White American/European looking women? Third, you must not be really interested in making much money. In all of the times I have been to Cali I can count on one hand the times I have run into gringos (to tell the truth NEVER pops into my head). You might be better off trying to find some of the gringo big spenders who attend to business in Bogota to fall for this. Still, I don't recall ever seeing a guy in even that forum mention paying a chica the minimum 800,000 pesos that you are requesting. And do these girls even speak English? From this forum I gather that the majority of guys traveling to Colombia to monger do not speak Spanish. And if the monger is like me and speaks Spanish, then he is definitely less likely to fall for this seeing that they should have no problem picking up non-pros and pros on the local scene. Being a pimp is not as simple as it seems. You might have the women, but it seems that you don't know much about business/marketing. I guess part of your due diligence was posting this here though before you tried to put your plan into effect.You are right about the pricing structure if the target market is most of the guys that already go to Cali anyway. Seems to me that he is trying to attract a new higher end clientele to Cali.

Nobody goes to Colombia looking for white women. But most American guys go for a long slender body and chick whose thighs aren't stuck together. Victoria's Secret models are from all over the world including many from Brazil. But they all have bodies that make the sale. Which is what this guy needs instead of heading off into the niche "gordita" market right off the bat. Jajaja

[Member #4287]

The guys that like fat chicks are already complaining about the price. Jajaja.

Find chicks like this and you just might be able to find guys willing to pay your price.

Or compete in the surprisingly overcrowded gordita niche segment.

https://www.facebook.com/leisure.valley

[SlamCity7777]

Lovely Colombian women from Cali.Where do you find 5 girls this nice looking in Cali? WoW! Looks like a dream come true!

[Nino Bravo]

Yes Cali H, nothing like cheap pussy. Jajaja. And you really don't think those 2 chicks in the facebook link are attractive? And you think they are fat? No wonder they ran you out of Cali.

LMAO!

[Member #4287]

Hey Olympo Host!

The problem is your pricing costs need to reflect the demand for your talent more realistically. The more gorda the chica, they should realize and take into account their perceived value is typicially less attractive by general American standards. Hence the bigger the girl, the more the discount should be taken into effect. First of all $400-$1000 for any of these girls is ridiculously excessive and beyond what girls charge in the US for that matter, so that's definitely out of the question! If chica is NOT Victoria Secret model type, thats fine for there is also a market for more voluptuous body types, it just need to be discounted in the price and business will be consistent. The problem is some of these girls are below sub par standards physicially, yet still outrageous with their expectations. Personally, I'd take the more chubby ones in your pictures, because I'm looking for best deals on less desirable chicas and how it works in stronger correlation to a good attitude and company. As long as she's priced accordingly. So you can send me all those other Gringos don't like!I agree with what you say about the general American standards but these same voluptuous go for a premium to the local mongers. The thinner hotter women by general American standards go for less. It isn't as easy to find a super hot flaquita in Cali as it is in Medellin but when you do she is all yours because the local guys mostly go for the big butt big breast types.

Seems to me that he could make a killing taking slim women from Cali and charging just what the voluptuous women already get there because the thinner women in Cali will actually expect less.

I think it is worth taking a look at what already goes over well in the local Colombian market and see where the overlap is.

Personally I find the less expensive women on these websites (geared towards Colombian mongers) to be more attractive on average then the more expensive women.

http://www.conejitas-vip.com/html/gold.html

http://www.amantesdeldeseo.com/en/escorts/chicas/cali

[Jack4765]

Thanks for the advice Cali Hentai,

I really appreciate it. I do agree with you, in the sense that there is a tendency among American and Europeans for a certain look in girls, but I also like to think that is not necessarily a general rule, and that there are guys with different tastes for women, so I try to have a mixed lineup. I don't discriminate based on the Victoria Secret look, to be honest, in order to have quantity, but I also don't include any and every girl, which diminishes quality. There are other girls available in the catalog that are professional models and girls who are in fact Chicas Car Audio, but they won't do pictures for the catalog like the ones I posted as they're afraid people who know them in Colombia will find out. Some of them have already done pictures for the website lindapop. Com and they deeply regret it, so they are apprehensive about doing certain type of pictures. There are tons of hot women in Colombia who don't work in brothels or even do outcalls because of the fear of meeting someone who may recognize them and start the gossip, but when you tell them they only would work with Americans at a private secluded place where no one will know what they're doing, they love the idea and want to be part of it. There's a girl who is an odontologist, and another one who is a Medical student. Some are regular girls who are hot and want to use that to their advantage and make some extra income, but the idea that their family or friends find out that their doing P4P frightens them. I'll attach a couple pictures of other girls who are in the lineup.

My point is, the issue I'm having is not so much getting girls for the lineup, there are plenty who are hot and willing to work exclusively with americans (they love that idea). My problem has been more of a trust issue with clients. I'm looking to get guys that in the US and Europe pay $400 for an hour or $1000 for 3 hours and show them that in Colombia you get the same quality girl for a much longer period of time for the same price. The problem is that most of them have never been to Colombia and they have obvious red flags about traveling there. So right now for me is all about establishing that trust, and getting plenty of clients to come and see this is for real and provide them with an awesome experience so they come back and tell their friends.

Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated it, like yours Cali Hentai, thanks.YMMV. But you would be hard pressed to get 100K cop from me for any of them. Then again. YMMV.

[Member #4287]

#Olympo.

This is your business model: http://cat69.co/

And the vast majority of the guys on this board are never going to be your clients if you hold fast to your price.

So don't worry about what I or any one guy says here.

Men that are willing to pay the price you want to charge. Want a woman that looks like a model.

So think about that body type. Or if you want clients that like voluptuous women than lower your price and sell to the masses in Cali.

You first have to decide who your ideal customer is going to be. Then plan accordingly.

[Mr Enternational]

Not trying to bust up anybody's dream because he may have a vision that I just don't see. But realistically, how many of these "ideal customers" is he going to find in Cali, Colombia? It's like opening a hamburger stand in the ghettos of Mumbai.

[Olympo Host]

Guys,

Thanks to all for the comments and suggestions, in just a few posts I've gathered plenty of useful information to better shape what I'm trying to do. To Mr. Enternational's comment I have to say, yes, being a pimp is not simple at all LOL (although I see myself more of a travel agent rather than a pimp, to be honest). Anyway, I just want to clear up that I never said that those were the prices of the girls, I'm not asking 800. 000 COP for the heavier set ones, and yes, they are priced accordingly as their general perceived level of attraction is. I was just stating what some of the guys in the USA pay for GFE with high quality girls. Just the other day a friend of mine showed me a girl in the USA who is super hot and caters to professional athletes, Lebron and Reggie Bush included, and her rate is $8000 USD for 1 night. Now, maybe its just me, but no matter how fine a girl is, paying 8000 dollars to 1 girl for 1 night seems like a waste of money, regardless of how rich you may be. Obviously this is an extreme example, but I just want to illustrate the huge price gap there is between USA and Colombia.

I'm not promoting this service to the forum members because this is not the market for it, I know better. I wanted to have some opinions, comments, suggestions from guys that frequently do this outside the USA (what I believe are known here as pro's and semi-pros) and learn and build upon some constructive criticism. Know what the preferences, concerns, likes and dislikes are. And like I said, thanks a lot, there was a lot of useful info in just a couple of posts.

To better explain what I'm trying to do, in a nutshell, is an All-inclusive Adult Vacation Package. I have a property only 20 minutes outside of Cali, which is where the clients would stay and spend the time with their girl or girls. You would be picked up at the airport by a chauffeur in the car you choose with the girl you choose. Bottle of champagne and a BJ in the car to make the ride to the resort a little more enjoyble. Fine cuisine, all you can drink, and other party enhancers included, if you so desire. Transportation all throughout Cali and its surroundings is included as well, in case you want to hit a club, bar, restaurant, casino, go to Lago Calima for some Jet ski action, or maybe horseback riding, paragliding, or ATV riding. All of these activities with your girl by your side, if you wish.

From what I've found on the net, there's a couple of these places already in the DR and Costa Rica. The one I see that looks the best to emulate is Oxygen Retreat in the DR, but that is just what I perceive from their website, I have never been there (If anyone has, if you could share your experience it would be great). They have a bit of a different concept though, in the sense that they have 19 rooms for guests, a staff of 25, and you don't get to choose the girl before you go there, you select her when you're there from a group of girls that apparently live in the compound, and you get their service with coupons they give you when you arrive. Coupons have different time values ranging from 2-6 hours, and if you run out, you have to buy more. My service would be more intimate and personal. Even though the resort has ten rooms, I've accomodated only the rooms that have their own bathroom, so I can only host up to 4 guests at a time, and that is if the guests agree to sharing the resort with other guests. In return there is a discount on the price for each guest, obviously. If you want the entire place for you and your girls only, well, you pay a little extra for the exclusivity. I'm also open and willing to cater to swinger couples.

So, with all that said, I'd like to think that I'm not just offering girls, but rather an entire experience, even though the most important part of the experience is the girl. Therefore, my market is not ISG's forum members, but guys who spend big money in the USA for GFE with quality girls, and offer them an alternative, for the same price, or even cheaper. The leap I need to make is convince them to come to Colombia, and that's where the advertising and marketing come in. I'll attach a couple of pictures of the place and a couple more girls that fit better the skinny look that was much talked about, to see if they are a little more to the taste of Americans.

Also, on the concern for the GFE and a girl with a shitty attitude. The payment is done to me, from which I give 50% to the girl before she starts the service, and the other 50% AFTER she has finished the service. If you don't like her attitude or the way she's performing, you can request for another girl, at no extra charge and I would assume the extra cost. As a "broker", I have to ensure both the clients and providers are happy in order for the business to run, so I have to come up with ways to guarantee this to both parties.

Thanks again guys for any comments and suggestions.

[Olympo Host]

Not trying to bust up anybody's dream because he may have a vision that I just don't see. But realistically, how many of these "ideal customers" is he going to find in Cali, Colombia? It's like opening a hamburger stand in the ghettos of Mumbai.Hello MR. E,

I'm not looking for clients in Cali, Colombia, I know there aren't any. I'm looking for clients in the USA.

Attached are the pictures of the other girls I talked about on the other post.

[SirAssAlot]

Hey Cali Hentai,

Appreciate the input. I see what you're saying. Their premiums are backwards. Hmmmm. Interesting. Wasn't aware of that.


I agree with what you say about the general American standards but these same voluptuous go for a premium to the local mongers. The thinner hotter women by general American standards go for less. It isn't as easy to find a super hot flaquita in Cali as it is in Medellin but when you do she is all yours because the local guys mostly go for the big butt big breast types.

Seems to me that he could make a killing taking slim women from Cali and charging just what the voluptuous women already get there because the thinner women in Cali will actually expect less.

I think it is worth taking a look at what already goes over well in the local Colombian market and see where the overlap is.

Personally I find the less expensive women on these websites (geared towards Colombian mongers) to be more attractive on average then the more expensive women.

http://www.conejitas-vip.com/html/gold.html

http://www.amantesdeldeseo.com/en/escorts/chicas/cali

[SirAssAlot]

Hey Olympo Host,

I commend you for what you're trying to do, just be very careful on your pricing strategies and marketing efforts to a savvy American market base, or you'll be like Liquid Lounge in Medellin- over leveraged and wondering why your business model isn't working. The best all-inclusive place in the DR is Blackbeards Resort because of quality in relation to quantity, cost-effective, and simplicity. Study their business model, incorporate similar cost structure, and add in a little of what makes The Medellin Mansion so successful, and you'll have traffic to your place everyday. I don't know who told you those guys spent $8000 for a girl because thats unheard of and certainly not even in the ballpark of what the standard affluent men pay for in America. I know you admitted this is probably exception of the rule, but you can not sustain a business based on a once in a lifetime exaggerated payment. Well established adult film companies in the US don't even pay their pornstars that much! Average girl in the porno business only makes a few hundred dollars per scene, & pros / semi-pros and escorts here make about half that. Even though you're catering to more upscale clients, use that as a barometer to guage and better formulate your pricing. You should charge slighty more than Blackbeards, but not more than similar resorts in Costa Rica. (FYI: Blackbeards charges about $70 / nite for room, taxi service from airport: $45, Chicas (GFE) $90 / TLN ovrnite) , you can include open bar cost too, and other activities you spoke of, total the sum and guys will come running! The problem with most these all inclusive sites is their too overpriced and we don't like being "locked in" to small selection of chicas. Solve this. And you'll Be the Papa Grande in Cali!


GuysRica.

Thanks to all for the comments and suggestions, in just a few posts I've gathered plenty of useful information to better shape what I'm trying to do. To Mr. Enternational's comment I have to say, yes, being a pimp is not simple at all LOL (although I see myself more of a travel agent rather than a pimp, to be honest). Anyway, I just want to clear up that I never said that those were the prices of the girls, I'm not asking 800. 000 COP for the heavier set ones, and yes, they are priced accordingly as their general perceived level of attraction is. I was just stating what some of the guys in the USA pay for GFE with high quality girls. Just the other day a friend of mine showed me a girl in the USA who is super hot and caters to professional athletes, Lebron and Reggie Bush included, and her rate is $8000 USD for 1 night. Now, maybe its just me, but no matter how fine a girl is, paying 8000 dollars to 1 girl for 1 night seems like a waste of money, regardless of how rich you may be. Obviously this is an extreme example, but I just want to illustrate the huge price gap there is between USA and Colombia.

I'm not promoting this service to the forum members because this is not the market for it, I know better. I wanted to have some opinions, comments, suggestions from guys that frequently do this outside the USA (what I believe are known here as pro's and semi-pros) and learn and build upon some constructive criticism. Know what the preferences, concerns, likes and dislikes are. And like I said, thanks a lot, there was a lot of useful info in just a couple of posts...

[SavePros321]

So, with all that said, I'd like to think that I'm not just offering girls, but rather an entire experience, even though the most important part of the experience is the girl. Therefore, my market is not ISG's forum members, but guys who spend big money in the USA for GFE with quality girls, and offer them an alternative, for the same price, or even cheaper. The leap I need to make is convince them to come to Colombia, and that's where the advertising and marketing come in.And therein lies your problem. If I were a very wealthy guy, why would I need to leave the US to find cheap pussy? I could imagine that wealthy guys can't walk a few steps without tripping over pussy or having it thrown at them daily. What motivation would they have to hop on an airplane and go to Colombia when we have our own corners of Latin America (Miami, New York, Los Angeles)?

Maybe you could get Justin Bieber as your client:

http://pagesix.com/2013/11/02/justin-bieber-busted-sneaking-out-of-brothel/?_ga=1.119753612.560796253.1376693064&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow

But he only went to Panama and Rio because he was doing shows there. And even the hooker he got in Panama he only paid $500 USD to; not $8000! So I guess he is not your ideal client either, LOL.

[SavePros321]

Attached are the pictures of the other girls I talked about on the other post.And what would be the pricing for these chicas in your photos?

Here is something to consider. I call it the "Brazilian Barometer":

http://www.rioencontro.com.br/loiraseruivas.php

No disrespect, but none of the photos of chicas you have posted so far come even close to any of the Brasileras in the link above. No silicone ass injections on those thoroughbreds, LOL!

All of those Brasileras can be had for 300 Reals (or possibly less) , which is about $133 USD. Shit, even at 500 Reals that is only$222 USD. Which is why most of us have said you should temper your expectations amigo.

If you do not believe me, just read the escort report on this hottie:

Flavia Ventura/ 300 Reals:

http://www.riosexsite.net/acompanhante/FlaviaVentura

Review:

http://www.gpguia.net/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=134557

Unblock gpguia.net: http://unblocksit.es/unblock/gpguia.net/

One final note: In our travels we mongers have found that prices for chicas always tends to be relatively low when there is no middleman involved in the transaction ;)

[Phunluv]

Guys,

Thanks to all for the comments and suggestions, in just a few posts I've gathered plenty of useful information to better shape what I'm trying to do. .Hi Olympo,

You're not going to get much love in this board because most of the guys here dislike middlemen for obvious reasons (brings up the price, changes the attitudes of the girls, etc.) and feel they can do a better job themselves. Also, most lifestyle mongers tend to focus on the low-end of the P4P world; lot of posts on these boards about streetgirls and the lower-end venues. Many guys here are about quantity and pump-and-dump; they'd get bored silly being with the same girl even if she is a 10 and they're staying in a luxurious villa.

While I'm not a huge fan of middle-men myself, I understand how they can facilitate things in certain situations, and I actually appreciate what you're trying to do. I checked out the pics and it's an incredible property, but I do think your high-end idea is a limited niche. I doubt you'll be making major bucks with that biz plan. You should think about modifying the inside, partitioning it better so you can rent out 2-3 more rooms. Also, look into day-only rentals as a possibility for middle-class locals in the area; wedding parties, fashion shoots or shows, other kinds of events or parties. You have amazing views and an impressive house; that's your main asset, not the chicas. I'm sure you're working out a way to monetize that.

But I seriously doubt you can fill the space night after night with high-end Cali girls servicing gringo high-rollers. The diversity or body-type of the girls is NOT the main problem here, despite the initial protests from some of the guys on this board. I actually like all your chica pics, and I would consider staying at your finca for a couple of nights possibly with a girl from your stable, although with all due respect, I might prefer to bring my own personal catch, so I'm not sure if you would be entirely comfortable with that. If you don't mind that, you could increase the appeal of your property to some of the P4P guys on this board. Like me, they prefer the city with it's nightlife options and p4p hunting opportunities, but they might want to "escape" from the city for 2-3 days with a hot chick or two in tow. You might be able to get some mongers already in the area by working that 2-3 day "escape" from traffic-heavy Cali angle. Although the obvious risk / hassle is the guys get bored with the girls they bring (or you send to them) ; in which case, you'll find yourself quite busy playing chauffer or chica dispatcher! Many mongers wouldn't want (and can't afford anyway) to stay at your finca for a week, but for a couple of days, yes.

Good luck!

[Olympo Host]

Guys,

Thanks for the commments. For those who PM'd me, I look forward to meeting you, having some drinks, and having fun with the girls. I'm more than happy to serve as a wingman instead of a pimp, for those who asked, and well, a wingman with a nice location to bring the girls back to wouldn't hurt to have in your contacts. I also enjoy p4p, and have done it in a couple other countries. As a monger myself, I can understand the despise for middlemen (I usually hang up when it's a guy who answers the phone) , so, no offense taken from the naysayers. I appreciate your point of view. And if there are any straight up haters out there, I would like to say, please don't hate, it just doesn't make the world a better place. Maybe it is because I'm young vs the majority of guys on this board so I relate more to the "better world" vs "who gives a fuck about the world?" mentality, but seriously, hating doesn't take anybody anywhere. With that said, I would like to wish all the best of luck in your adventures and endeavours.

Cheers!

[Bend Over2]

How the f did you get those pics of my gf?


The guys that like fat chicks are already complaining about the price. Jajaja.

Find chicks like this and you just might be able to find guys willing to pay your price.

Or compete in the surprisingly overcrowded gordita niche segment.

https://www.facebook.com/leisure.valley

[Manny51]

Hi everyone!

Thinking of visiting Cali in the coming months. I have been to Cartagena and MDE, but not Cali. I have read through the Cali Reports and Cali Lists sections, also couldn't find anything of meaningful value in the LOD / ROD section. From what I have been able to gather, its mostly casas.

Is there anything like the Mansion in Cali? I like "all-inclusive" type places. If not that, is there one major central hookup bar, like the DelRey?

If not, I may just go to MDE again.

[Combo]

Manny.

Nothing like the Mansion in Cali and no real central place to hookup. There is definitely plenty of action, but it's not as easily accessible as MDE. I personally like Cali because it has a great music and dance scene and non-pros are much easier to hook up with.

Go to Chipichape in Cali and you have a good chance of hooking up with chicas. In MDE, the chicas don't want to be seen with a Gringo unless you live there.


Hi everyone!

Thinking of visiting Cali in the coming months. I have been to Cartagena and MDE, but not Cali. I have read through the Cali Reports and Cali Lists sections, also couldn't find anything of meaningful value in the LOD / ROD section. From what I have been able to gather, its mostly casas.

Is there anything like the Mansion in Cali? I like "all-inclusive" type places. If not that, is there one major central hookup bar, like the DelRey?

If not, I may just go to MDE again.

[Manny51]

Manny.

Nothing like the Mansion in Cali and no real central place to hookup. There is definitely plenty of action, but it's not as easily accessible as MDE. I personally like Cali because it has a great music and dance scene and non-pros are much easier to hook up with.

Go to Chipichape in Cali and you have a good chance of hooking up with chicas. In MDE, the chicas don't want to be seen with a Gringo unless you live there.Thanks for the advice? Anywhere else in the country good to go? Barranquilla? Santa Marta? Bogota? OR should I just go back to MDE, which quite frankly, I am leaning toward. Its just that I usually like to see something new.

[BayBoy]

Thanks for the advice? Anywhere else in the country good to go? Barranquilla? Santa Marta? Bogota? OR should I just go back to MDE, which quite frankly, I am leaning toward. Its just that I usually like to see something new.You ought to try Bogota. There's a lot of action there, plus a little siteseeing too, plus some good restaurants; but its a big city and everything is spread out. Youd have to take a cab or the Transmilenio buses.

[Manny51]

You ought to try Bogota. There's a lot of action there, plus a little siteseeing too, plus some good restaurants; but its a big city and everything is spread out. Youd have to take a cab or the Transmilenio buses.Thanks! Bogota it is.

[Combo]

Thanks! Bogota it is.Manny, it's worth mentioning that Bogota does not share the warm / hot weather that MDE, Cali, and Cartagena have. In fact, it can be downright cold. I don't even know if this matters to you, but I just thought I'd mention it in case it does.

Weather is certainly a big factor in where I vacation.

[Manny51]

Manny, it's worth mentioning that Bogota does not share the warm / hot weather that MDE, Cali, and Cartagena have. In fact, it can be downright cold. I don't even know if this matters to you, but I just thought I'd mention it in case it does.

Weather is certainly a big factor in where I vacation.Hmm. If what you say is true, then I am very glad that you mentioned that. I thought that MDE would be the coolest, since its in the mountains.

Is Bogota truly worth a visit? Or would you just go back to MDE?

[World Travel 69]

I live in California.

30 or 40 Degrees F. Is not cold.
Bring a lite coat or buy a Sweater.

[Combo]

Hmm. If what you say is true, then I am very glad that you mentioned that. I thought that MDE would be the coolest, since its in the mountains.

Is Bogota truly worth a visit? Or would you just go back to MDE?Hi Manny. I think Bogota is way higher in the mountains than MDE.

In terms of warmth: Cartagena Cali MDE Bogota. The 1st three are all pretty much balmy, vacation type weather. Bogota definitely not. Google the weather averages.

[BayBoy]

Bogota is definitely higher elevation than Medellin. Its a cool weather city, one minute its warm and the next its cool. The type of place you need to have a lite jacket with you at all times. The temperature can change quickly there.

In Medellin and Cali I can get by with a short sleeve shirt all the times, day and night. But not Bogota.

[Coto22]

Hi,

Is it hard to find girls in casas who do anal for some extra propina and maybe allowing to have pictures taken?

[SavePros321]

Hi,

Is it hard to find girls in casas who do anal for some extra propina and maybe allowing to have pictures taken?Your best bet is to ask a chica in person while on your trip. There are no mathematical averages listed for the percentage of chicas who will or won't do anal or photos. It's all on you to ask or negotiate this on your own.

[Parcero]

Just a reminder that December is the absolute best time to visit Cali, I have some openings in December, and January as well.

There is the Feria De Cali similar to the Feria De Flores for MDE.

See you in Cali.

[RacShack]

Going to Cali first time does anybody know if hotel Cali plaza is a good spot to stay, for location by all the action, girl friendly and so on, any and all info on Cali would be great!

Thanks

[MrBeaver2013]

Hey mongering gurus of Colombia!

So I'm just about staring to plan a trip up to Colombia. I speak fluent Spanish so that should help. But I have a few Qs for you experts:

1. Is December or January a better time to be there? (I can't do the holiday season there tho). May not be all that different from a mongering scene but just thought I'd ask anyways. Energy wise.

2. I'm looking at someone to help me out on Cali, MDE, and Bogota via private messaging. Can any of you help me? Send me a PM please.

I'm thinking about 10 to 14 days between the three cities should give me a good flavor of the places as well as the women. Can't wait to plan this out.

B

[BayBoy]

Going to Cali first time does anybody know if hotel Cali plaza is a good spot to stay, for location by all the action, girl friendly and so on, any and all info on Cali would be great!

ThanksI've stayed at Hotel Cali Plaza a few times. There's good and bad about the hotel. The good thing is a great location, right in the heart of Ave. Sexta, and all the action there, plus restaurants and some shopping. Its around $60 a night. US American owned, they do speak English there, unlike some of the other hotels in Cali.

Bad news: on Fri. And Sat. Nites the discos are blaring music till 3 in the morning. The other nites aren't too bad I think it stops at around midnight. No breakfast, your on your own for that meal. There are some bakeries close by.

I don't know if its girl friendly, never brought a chica back with me. I usually stay there just because of the location. Possible to meet some gringos at the hotel.

[RacShack]

I've stayed at Hotel Cali Plaza a few times. There's good and bad about the hotel. The good thing is a great location, right in the heart of Ave. Sexta, and all the action there, plus restaurants and some shopping. Its around $60 a night. US American owned, they do speak English there, unlike some of the other hotels in Cali.

Bad news: on Fri. And Sat. Nites the discos are blaring music till 3 in the morning. The other nites aren't too bad I think it stops at around midnight. No breakfast, your on your own for that meal. There are some bakeries close by.

I don't know if its girl friendly, never brought a chica back with me. I usually stay there just because of the location. Possible to meet some gringos at the hotel.I've been to cart Barr Santa Marta and med before, how does Cali match up to those places? Just looking for a new trip, any strip clubs like med, thanks again, any and all info would be greatly appreciated!

[Parcero]

Actually, I have two;

One is at The Penthouse which is in a much better location than most hotels, very close to Ave 6 but with out the blaring music.

Here at the Penthouse, at night you can hear nothing but the frogs in the trees, or just silence. The nightly rate is 56 bucks and it includes breakfast and maid service besides many other benefits.

The second is a really nice, furnished apartment, also in a great location, and offers everything that you could want in a place to stay.

When someone rents a room at the penthouse, it comes with guide service so one does not have to run around in circles trying to find all of the good spots.

Here in the North, you can walk to most every P4P spot including Dr Amor, Piscina, and many others.

December is here and it is also the very best time to come to Cali because of the Feria De Cali.

Parcero

[PeteMail124]

Actually, I have two;

One is at The Penthouse which is in a much better location than most hotels, very close to Ave 6 but with out the blaring music.

Here at the Penthouse, at night you can hear nothing but the frogs in the trees, or just silence. The nightly rate is 56 bucks and it includes breakfast and maid service besides many other benefits.

The second is a really nice, furnished apartment, also in a great location, and offers everything that you could want in a place to stay.

When someone rents a room at the penthouse, it comes with guide service so one does not have to run around in circles trying to find all of the good spots.

Here in the North, you can walk to most every P4P spot including Dr Amor, Piscina, and many others.

December is here and it is also the very best time to come to Cali because of the Feria De Cali.

ParceroAnyone know a guide service in Cali without staying at the pent house? Looking for a wingman around feria de Cali time. Anyone up for billiards around this time?

[PeteMail124]

Actually, I have two;

One is at The Penthouse which is in a much better location than most hotels, very close to Ave 6 but with out the blaring music.

Here at the Penthouse, at night you can hear nothing but the frogs in the trees, or just silence. The nightly rate is 56 bucks and it includes breakfast and maid service besides many other benefits.

The second is a really nice, furnished apartment, also in a great location, and offers everything that you could want in a place to stay.

When someone rents a room at the penthouse, it comes with guide service so one does not have to run around in circles trying to find all of the good spots.

Here in the North, you can walk to most every P4P spot including Dr Amor, Piscina, and many others.

December is here and it is also the very best time to come to Cali because of the Feria De Cali.

ParceroAnyone know a guide service in Cali without staying at the pent house? Looking for a wingman around feria de Cali time. Anyone up for billiards around this time?

[SavePros321]

Anyone know a guide service in Cali without staying at the pent house? Looking for a wingman around feria de Cali time. Anyone up for billiards around this time?I think Parcero used to offer tours while he was in Medellin. You should contact him. I'm sure you could arrange something with him without staying at one of his places.

[Orgasmico]

Anyone know a guide service in Cali without staying at the pent house? Looking for a wingman around feria de Cali time. Anyone up for billiards around this time?Are you going for the Feria events? What kind of tours are you interested in?

[PeteMail124]

Are you going for the Feria events? What kind of tours are you interested in?Hi There,

Yes, looking to rumbar en Cali para la feria de Cali. Any groups touring the chica bars in Cali at this time?

If so please PM me! I would like to join!

I arrive 21 Dec.

Cheers!

[Grevenstein]

Hi there,

I do live in Cali for 10 years now.

Sorry, but had no clue about this Forum. Guess I am not allowed to post any pm.

I have no financial int. All all, married to a chick from Cartago. Most of the time she works in Europe, while I enjoy Cali.

Frequent client in la 20, Sonero and clinica doctor Amor.

La Feria is great because chicks have a lot costs to cover in Dec.

Saludos

[Orgasmico]

Hi there,

La Feria is great because chicks have a lot costs to cover in Dec.

SaludosAnyone else doing La Feria?

[Member #4366]

Anyone else doing La Feria?Hi Orgasmico, I'll be in Cali in a few days. I sent you a pm

[Orgasmico]

Hi Orgasmico, I'll be in Cali in a few days. I sent you a pmYeah, I got it. Should be a good time.

[Grevenstein]

Hi there,

Compared with the last couple of years the pre-Christmas season is rather quite.

Didn't see much Chics from other cities trying to make a buck in Cali.

Clinica doctor Amor refreshed the Website. I would recommend Brendalee. Nice personallity, great ass and sillies. Hard to get. Seems overbooked, but rated VIP and so goes for 80 mil.

La vente with less girls then before and mostly beeing there for a long time.

A couple of girls recently showed up in Son Sonero. Nice attention there from staff (Lupo, Rodrigo). Need something talk to them and ask for the German, maybe will I will be around.

Most of the female students of UCS (Universidad Santiago de Cali) work as semi-pros. In fornt of the University is a Mio-Bus stop Station. Talked to some and got 3 willing to go for a Motel Melendez nearby. Cheap ranging from 60 to 90 mil.

Saludos from Cali.

[Member #4366]

Most of the female students of UCS (Universidad Santiago de Cali) work as semi-pros. In fornt of the University is a Mio-Bus stop Station. Talked to some and got 3 willing to go for a Motel Melendez nearby. Cheap ranging from 60 to 90 mil.

Saludos from Cali.You seem to know the ropes in Cali. I'm there right now and I visited Chipichape mall without success. Lots of hot chicas about but hard to guess which ones are available. Is there any place where they hang out? Anything at all that would give them away? I tried a few smiles but did not get a reaction. That me be just me though. Any help would be appreciated. Perhaps we could meet up?

[Grevenstein]

You seem to know the ropes in Cali. I'm there right now and I visited Chipichape mall without success. Lots of hot chicas about but hard to guess which ones are available. Is there any place where they hang out? Anything at all that would give them away? I tried a few smiles but did not get a reaction. That me be just me though. Any help would be appreciated. Perhaps we could meet up?Sure you are wellcome. Monday is fine with me. Any place.

Malls, Soneros, La vente. Tell me.

Chicks are on high alert due to Christmas. Wednesday is back to Business and fishing for Clients.

[Member #4366]

Sure you are wellcome. Monday is fine with me. Any place.

Malls, Soneros, La vente. Tell me.

Chicks are on high alert due to Christmas. Wednesday is back to Business and fishing for Clients.Monday is fine with me too. Can you make it in the afternoon? Is Son Sonero open then? If not, La 20?

[BayBoy]

Monday is fine with me too. Can you make it in the afternoon? Is Son Sonero open then? If not, La 20?Club Sonero opens at either 12 noon or 1pm, I can't remember which. Bar La 20 opens at 2pm.

[Member #4366]

Club Sonero opens at either 12 noon or 1pm, I can't remember which. Bar La 20 opens at 2pm.Thanks very much BayBoy!

[Grevenstein]

Hi there,

I did see your post today around 2 pm. Couldn't make it. Sorry for that.

Dec 25 will be quite. 26/27/28 will have varios events. I will be definetly at Soneros Friday afternoon.

Were do you stay?

[Member #4366]

Hi there,

I did see your post today around 2 pm. Couldn't make it. Sorry for that.

Dec 25 will be quite. 26/27/28 will have varios events. I will be definetly at Soneros Friday afternoon.

Were do you stay?I went to Son Sonero and La 20 this afternoon. This is a neighborhood I would not visit by night. It looked very poor and perhaps dangerous. Left a note for you at Son Sonero. Unfortunately, I'm leaving on the 25th. Tomorrow (on the 24th) everything will be dead, I suppose.

[Orgasmico]

Dec 25 will be quite.The salsódromo is on the 25th. http://www.feriadecali.com/portal/eventoscali/salsodromo/

[Orgasmico]

Anyone know what the casa schedule looks like on the 24 and 25th? I know there are events and parties at the clubs till January 1.

[Parcero]

Sorry guys, I have been a little out of touch.

I just looked at my mail, and I was under the impression that the website sends me an email when I receive a private message.

I was wrong.

Anyway, the Cali scene is hopping now.

I have a guy staying here now and we went to 2 different Feria de Cali events last 2 days in a row, and it was phenomenal.

Send me if you want to come and visit and stay at the Penthouse.

[Parcero]

Man. Man. Man. You was absolutely right about the difference of Cali & Medellin. I like Medellin a lot. But I love Cali! Medellin chicas try to run more games and try to hustle a dude. One even distracted me after changing the amount we negotiated and after we took pic I didn't put my phone securely in my pocket and after I was leaving I realized it, turned around and went back, but my cell was gone and so was the chica. And that was my good U. S phone! I was hot! But that was a learning example. Another chica at the mansion gave me a bad lackluster performance on purpose, so after about 5 minutes I told her I didn't want to continue because of her performance then she demanded I still give her full amount of hour. After back & forth I just still ended up giving her half, and still had to go get another chica and had to pay her full price. Interesting experiences in MDE, but you was right. Cali is more the place for me. More laid back. Plus Iike voluptuous Calenas more than Paisas. MDE city is more modern and nicer looking, but the women in Cali much nicer and cost of living cheaper. I would visit MDE again maybe for a weekend, but will certainly stay in Cali the majority of the time next vacation. Hope all is well and the holidays is going well. I can't wait to come. Back down there. Happy New Years! Wish you even more prosperity than the last. Take care bro. & thanks for everything.

Anonymous

[Combo]

You pretty much nailed the difference between Cali and Medellin. The Paisas in Medellin (especially in Pobaldo) are very used to Gringos and know all the ways to fleece you. The Calenas, OTOH, still at times look at the Gringo tourist as a bit of a novelty. I've scored with non-pros in Cali. They wouldn't happen in Medellin (certainly not in Poblado).


Man. Man. Man. You was absolutely right about the difference of Cali & Medellin. I like Medellin a lot. But I love Cali! Medellin chicas try to run more games and try to hustle a dude. One even distracted me after changing the amount we negotiated and after we took pic I didn't put my phone securely in my pocket and after I was leaving I realized it, turned around and went back, but my cell was gone and so was the chica. And that was my good U. S phone! I was hot! But that was a learning example. Another chica at the mansion gave me a bad lackluster performance on purpose, so after about 5 minutes I told her I didn't want to continue because of her performance then she demanded I still give her full amount of hour. After back & forth I just still ended up giving her half, and still had to go get another chica and had to pay her full price. Interesting experiences in MDE, but you was right. Cali is more the place for me. More laid back. Plus Iike voluptuous Calenas more than Paisas. MDE city is more modern and nicer looking, but the women in Cali much nicer and cost of living cheaper. I would visit MDE again maybe for a weekend, but will certainly stay in Cali the majority of the time next vacation. Hope all is well and the holidays is going well. I can't wait to come. Back down there. Happy New Years! Wish you even more prosperity than the last. Take care bro. & thanks for everything.

Anonymous

[Orgasmico]

So my trip was a lot of fun. I was in Cali for 8 days. As far as mongering, I hit 2 cases. Dr. Amor had about 30 girls in all shapes, sizes, and colors. Definitely a flavor there for all. I hit another smaller casa, of which I don't remember the name but I had a great time. BBBJ and the whole nine. In fact, I almost thought she was going to try to slip it in raw dog when she was on top but thankfully she put the jimmy on without me asking her to, LOL

Besides that, I pretty much just hung out with regular babes I met in various locations and spent a Colombian New Years Eve with a girl I met and her family.

Here are a few images from my trip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a782QuK7Kg4

[Mr Enternational]

You pretty much nailed the difference between Cali and Medellin. The Paisas in Medellin (especially in Pobaldo) are very used to Gringos and know all the ways to fleece you. The Calenas, OTOH, still at times look at the Gringo tourist as a bit of a novelty. I've scored with non-pros in Cali. They wouldn't happen in Medellin (certainly not in Poblado).So now all of the Gringos should run down to Cali and teach the Calenas how to fleece them the same way they have taught the Paisas!
Besides that, I pretty much just hung out with regular babes I met in various locations and spent a Colombian New Years Eve with a girl I met and her family.That is exactly how I do it everywhere and just leave the mongering for in-between time and rainy days. After a while running up in brothels fucking chicks doesn't mean anything. But the sincere experience you get from kicking it with a regular babe and her family you will remember for a lifetime.

[HeadRack]

So my trip was a lot of fun. I was in Cali for 8 days. As far as mongering,

Here are a few images from my trip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a782QuK7Kg4Where do you stay in Cali. First time there.

[Nclpimp]

Went to dr amor. Their prices have gone up again. 95k for 1 hour two shots. 2 years ago I had a threesome wih hotties for 140k. There were about 15 chicas all shapes and sizes. Chose alejandra silicon beauty with an amazing ass. She had a great fuck me face. Now they gave me a see through towel in a bag instead of the regular towel. Girl was very hot and vocal so she made me nut very quick. No BBBJ since she said she had a throat infection, right! Did I mention Her ass was amazing. Her enhanced tits were not shabby either. After round 1 we chatted for a bit then round 2. I liked how she would play with herself as I pounded her and was very vocal. I got digits and said she would not have a throat infection if we decided to see each other again.

Chicas del norte was a dump but it was cheap 50k 30 minutes. Had a perreira girl, it was so dark in the lineup but she looked the best but when I saw her in the room I should have left. I stayed cause la piscina wasnt open yet. She gave me BBBJ and was very friendly and did everything with pleasure and after we chatted she told.

Me crazy stories with girls there. I tipped her 7k and left after I pounded her doggy till I nutted. I don't recomend this one. Its by the train tracks, too dark to see lineup bedroom floor full of peanut shells and too few girls and it now called "canelas" not chicas del norte.

Which place you guys think is better in the north? North of el Rio.

[BayBoy]

Went to dr amor. Their prices have gone up again. 95k for 1 hour two shots. 2 years ago I had a threesome wih hotties for 140k. There were about 15 chicas all shapes and sizes. Chose alejandra silicon beauty with an amazing ass. She had a great fuck me face. Now they gave me a see through towel in a bag instead of the regular towel. Girl was very hot and vocal so she made me nut very quick. No BBBJ since she said she had a throat infection, right! Did I mention Her ass was amazing. Her enhanced tits were not shabby either. After round 1 we chatted for a bit then round 2. I liked how she would play with herself as I pounded her and was very vocal. I got digits and said she would not have a throat infection if we decided to see each other again.

Chicas del norte was a dump but it was cheap 50k 30 minutes. Had a perreira girl, it was so dark in the lineup but she looked the best but when I saw her in the room I should have left. I stayed cause la piscina wasnt open yet. She gave me BBBJ and was very friendly and did everything with pleasure and after we chatted she told.

Me crazy stories with girls there. I tipped her 7k and left after I pounded her doggy till I nutted. I don't recomend this one. Its by the train tracks, too dark to see lineup bedroom floor full of peanut shells and too few girls and it now called "canelas" not chicas del norte.

Which place you guys think is better in the north? North of el Rio.I went to Chicas del Norte a few years ago, didn't like their line up of chicas plus there wasn't much to pick from, walked out without dating. I still rate Dr. Amor the best on the north side of the Cali river.

[Member #4394]

I am sure you are for chicas del "sur".


I went to Chicas del Norte a few years ago, didn't like their line up of chicas plus there wasn't much to pick from, walked out without dating. I still rate Dr. Amor the best on the north side of the Cali river.

[BayBoy]

I've been to a few casas on the north side (Caras Lindas etc.) I didn't think any of them can match Dr. Amor. But yes Matt my preference is the south end with Bar La20, Club Sonero and the streetwalkers on 8th.

[Member #4366]

My report is a few weeks overdue but hopefully still useful. I visited Cali in the week before Christmas (Dec 19-24). I didn't look for any new places but visited several on WT69's Cali list, especially those in Cali Norte, close to Ave. 6ta, all within easy walking distance from my hotel. Several places on the list are no longer mongering places: Caras Lindas on Ave 6ta #23 77 is now a snack bar and VIP disco (24N#6AN 08) is closed. I could also not find any activity on the address where 'Maximo' should be on (Ave 6AN#17AN 51). Anyway, lots of places on the list were still active (although sometimes under a different name).

Chicas Del Norte: only 3 girls when I went there in the evening (about 21:00) , none of them attractive if you are into young and skinny (as I am). The guy said that more would arrive later but I didn't go back.

Casa Del Agua: Next to La Piscina, only 3 girls there as well. I didn't like any of them so I went out again.

La Piscina: Very nice and relaxed place with a few really attractive girls. I had a 1 hour session upstairs with a beautiful young 'flaca'. I don't remember her name (Andrea?) but she is white and has light brown half-long hair. Service was ok, but CBJ only. Costs: 80k. Went back the next day and took another girl (Dayana) out to my hotel for a TLN. Had a really good GFE experience with this tiny young triguena for only 150k. However, I had to pay her exit fee at the club, which was another 80k. She gave a great BBBJ and would have barebacked me if I hadn't stopped her. Lots of DFK and she was not in a hurry to leave in the morning.

Caras Lindas on 17N#5N 33: Visited this place late in the afternoon (about 17:00). There were 9 or 10 girls but only two that looked interesting to me. Unfortunately, both got selected by (Colombian) guys that came in before me. I went out without doing any, intending to come back later but I never did.

Faraon: The place was empty when I visited (at about 22:00). No girls that I would do even if they would pay me. Had to pay an entry fee of 10k (if I remember well) but that at least bought me one beer.

Eventos Lizz: They had some kind of promotion on the night I went there. Bad timing: the place was overrun with Colombian guys trying to get laid cheap. There were lots of girls (over 30) and a few hot ones as well but they were running up and down the stairs with customers for very short sessions. I left after half an hour or so without doing anything.

Of course, a mongering visit to Cali is not complete without at least one stop at Dr. Amor's Clinica. I went there late in the morning (about 11:00) and there were not many customers. Unfortunately, there were also not many girls yet and none I really fancied. As there were few other possibilities at that hour, I decided to go for Brendalee because I rembered having read about her on this board (whether positive or negative I did nor recall). Anyway, in the bright light of the bedroom, she looked older than I first thought. Nice girl, fair service but very business-like. CBJ only. Price: 95k for one hour.

Centro Social CaliInternet? I'm not sure about the name of this place but it is located on Calle 25N#2Bis 47. Quite decent and clean place, with several attractive girls. Price: 120k / hour. I went there twice. On the first occasion, I had a very good time with Daniela from Manizales. She had a few pounds more than what I normally like but her attitude was really good. I had a great GFE experience with her including BBBJ and DFK. We talked a bit and it turned out she is bisexual and really into lesbian sex with another girl who works there as well (I forgot her name). So, I went back the next evening for a threesome with both of them. That was the best Christmas Eve of my life so far! These girls were really into each other but without forgetting me! It was like being in a porn movie. Went back to the hotel totally drained and grinning all the way.

San Sonero and La 20. Both clubs are located in a barrio I would qualify as unsafe, at least at night. I guess it is ok to go there by taxi but I would not walk there at night. I went there on Dec. 24th in the afternoon and that was probably bad timing. There were about 20 girls / women in each place but most of them old, fat or both. The few attractive girls that were present got lots of attention from the, mainly Colombian, customers. The ratio guys: girls was about 3:1 when I visited. I was surprised about the bad attitude of some girls in La 20. I called one over to sit with me and have a drink but she only said: vamos? (let's go?). I answered (in Spanish) , no lets sit down and talk a bit. Then she bitched: if you don't want to go with me, don't call me over! Another hottie didn't even want to come to my table when I called her. I guess they had enough business from regular customers. It is probably better on other days because both places got good reviews in the past. Just my bad luck.

Regular girls: I went to Chipichape mall on a few occasions to buy stuff and see if I could meet a non-pro girl. No success with the girls! There were lots of hotties about but no girl seemed interested. I tried a few smiles but no reaction at all. Perhaps I targeted the wrong girls, I don't know. Still, I have the feeling that I could have been successful if I had been with a wingman. It is easier to make contact if you are in a small group as most girls are in groups of two or three as well. On your own it is very difficult. Help from an expat who knows the ropes in Cali would have been perfect but I appreciate that other people's schedules do not always correspond with mine. Perhaps we'll meet next time, Grevenstein.

Overall, Cali is still a good place for mongering. The climate is pleasant, especially at night and the girls are really hot. I've only been with casa girls but honestly, I did not expect more as I was there for a few days only.

[Member #4394]

I agree with the most of your thoughts / observations. When I was at La20, there were about 40 girls (Friday night) , and about half of them came to me and talked to me. I thought they were friendly and very different from pros in Medellin. Customers were friendly as well and a few of them bought me beer. Probably it was just a bad night for you. Certainly almost all ladies were big at La20 as well as other venues when I was there. You say that you like slim girls, and I think Cali is not a good place for your preference. Anyway glad that you had fun.


none of them attractive if you are into young and skinny (as I am).

San Sonero and La 20. Both clubs are located in a barrio I would qualify as unsafe, at least at night. I guess it is ok to go there by taxi but I would not walk there at night. I went there on Dec. 24th in the afternoon and that was probably bad timing. There were about 20 girls / women in each place but most of them old, fat or both. The few attractive girls that were present got lots of attention from the, mainly Colombian, customers. The ratio guys: girls was about 3:1 when I visited. I was surprised about the bad attitude of some girls in La 20. I called one over to sit with me and have a drink but she only said: vamos? (let's go?). I answered (in Spanish) , no lets sit down and talk a bit. Then she bitched: if you don't want to go with me, don't call me over! Another hottie didn't even want to come to my table when I called her. I guess they had enough business from regular customers. It is probably better on other days because both places got good reviews in the past. Just my bad luck.

[World Travel 69]

Thanks for the updates.

There are two places listed in the same building:

Centro is in the phone book. I think the club may be closed, because their web site is not working.

Centro Social Calinternet. Com, Calle 25N #2Bis 47, piso 1 __Chicas. Prices: 70k 30 min. 120k hour. Tel: 653 6832. Hours: 9 am to 9 pm.

Club Kaliente, Calle 25N, #2Bis 47B. 8-10 Chicas. Prices: 70k. 30 min. 100k hour. Tel: 653-6832, Cell 315 597 20 73. Hours: _____. http://www.kaliente.com/


Centro Social CaliInternet? I'm not sure about the name of this place but it is located on Calle 25N#2Bis 47. Quite decent and clean place, with several attractive girls. Price: 120k / hour. I went there twice. On the first occasion, I had a very good time with Daniela from Manizales. She had a few pounds more than what I normally like but her attitude was really good. I had a great GFE experience with her including BBBJ and DFK. We talked a bit and it turned out she is bisexual and really into lesbian sex with another girl who works there as well (I forgot her name). So, I went back the next evening for a threesome with both of them. That was the best Christmas Eve of my life so far! These girls were really into each other but without forgetting me! It was like being in a porn movie. Went back to the hotel totally drained and grinning all the way.

[Nclpimp]

I believe her name was alejandra. Great fake rack and an amazing ass, she knew how to use. 95k

[Culebra]

Anyone have any info on the scene in Buga?

[RavenMax]

Me and my Colombian friend are traveling to Cali soon. I want to make a visit at Clinica Doctor Amor and I am curious if anyone have information about the girls there.

And where to find pictures of the girls. Their page on the internet, is not that good. Do anyone know what Emily look like? Or Carolina? Do anyone have photos or info about these two girls? If you do, please PM me!

[BayBoy]

Me and my Colombian friend are traveling to Cali soon. I want to make a visit at Clinica Doctor Amor and I am curious if anyone have information about the girls there.

And where to find pictures of the girls. Their page on the internet, is not that good. Do anyone know what Emily look like? Or Carolina? Do anyone have photos or info about these two girls? If you do, please PM me!I got on the Dr. Amor website and there was no picture available for Carolina and Emily. I don't know anything about these 2 girls. The website isn't what it used to be. They had the prices before, but not now. I even registered on their site, but it turned out to be no different then what you get without registering.

[RavenMax]

I got on the Dr. Amor website and there was no picture available for Carolina and Emily. I don't know anything about these 2 girls. The website isn't what it used to be. They had the prices before, but not now. I even registered on their site, but it turned out to be no different then what you get without registering.I did register on their site, but it is not possible to log in. That is why I asked in this forum, hoping that someone knew. Because a lot of mongers seems to have visited Dr Amor.

[Culebra]

I'm on a quick trip to Cali from MDE, thought I would share some intel.

Flew on Avianca because I couldn't seem to complete the online ticketing process for Viva Colombia. Their system doesn't seem to take USA based credit cards?

I rented a car through Orbitz / Avis. Easy pick up process at Cali airport. Cost for small car is about $60USD / day. A good price for Colombia. I need the car because I'm driving in the campo for business.

After clearing the airport, I went downtown Cali to the Avenida Sexta are to get familiar with the area. Had a nice lunch at the Bar / Rest at the Cali Plaza Hotel which seemed to be recommended on the hobby boards. Cali Plaza hotel is located in a great spot near to much nightlife activity. I may try to stay here tomorrow.

Casas. I used the guiacereza website to get a list of casas and love hotels this site has listings for MDE, Cali, BOG and other cities in Colombia. Used my GPS and still found it a little difficult to zero in on some of the casa's as many know, they try to remain discrete and don't have signs, so sometimes its like a treasure hunt.

I then looked for clinica Dr. Amor. Found that location. Went in and was quite impressed, it is well organized, large, plenty of seating in the viewing / greeting areas. About 30 Chicas on parade here. Selection is a bit different from MDE, Chicas are larger and many with ample booty's. Picked a younger (age 20) sweet chica from the parade and enjoyed a nice 1 hour session. Rooms are clean, large sized showers, no hot water,

Prices. Chicas at Clinica Dr. Amour are priced according to the color of the wrist bands. From $70,000 to $90,000 COP per hour.

More later

[Mr Enternational]

Flew on Avianca because I couldn't seem to complete the online ticketing process for Viva Colombia. Their system doesn't seem to take USA based credit cards?Happens to me when I book on a lot of Asian carriers. Try using a different browser.

[BayBoy]

I'm on a quick trip to Cali from MDE, thought I would share some intel.

Flew on Avianca because I couldn't seem to complete the online ticketing process for Viva Colombia. Their system doesn't seem to take USA based credit cards?

I rented a car through Orbitz / Avis. Easy pick up process at Cali airport. Cost for small car is about $60USD / day. A good price for Colombia. I need the car because I'm driving in the campo for business.

After clearing the airport, I went downtown Cali to the Avenida Sexta are to get familiar with the area. Had a nice lunch at the Bar / Rest at the Cali Plaza Hotel which seemed to be recommended on the hobby boards. Cali Plaza hotel is located in a great spot near to much nightlife activity. I may try to stay here tomorrow.

Casas. I used the guiacereza website to get a list of casas and love hotels this site has listings for MDE, Cali, BOG and other cities in Colombia. Used my GPS and still found it a little difficult to zero in on some of the casa's as many know, they try to remain discrete and don't have signs, so sometimes its like a treasure hunt.

I then looked for clinica Dr. Amor. Found that location. Went in and was quite impressed, it is well organized, large, plenty of seating in the viewing / greeting areas. About 30 Chicas on parade here. Selection is a bit different from MDE, Chicas are larger and many with ample booty's. Picked a younger (age 20) sweet chica from the parade and enjoyed a nice 1 hour session. Rooms are clean, large sized showers, no hot water,

Prices. Chicas at Clinica Dr. Amour are priced according to the color of the wrist bands. From $70, 000 to $90, 000 COP per hour.

More laterGood interesting report from Cali. Yes the chicas at Dr. Amor are larger and have ample booty I. E. Big tits. That's the way I like it. Lots of eye candy there. Glad you clarified the pricing situation about the wrist bands and prices. They've raised their prices lately. If you stay at the Cali Plaza hotel give us your opinion of the place, I've stayed there a few times.

[RavenMax]

I'm on a quick trip to Cali from MDE, thought I would share some intel.

I then looked for clinica Dr. Amor. Found that location. Went in and was quite impressed, it is well organized, large, plenty of seating in the viewing / greeting areas. About 30 Chicas on parade here. Selection is a bit different from MDE, Chicas are larger and many with ample booty's. Picked a younger (age 20) sweet chica from the parade and enjoyed a nice 1 hour session. Rooms are clean, large sized showers, no hot water,

More laterDo you have any photos? Did they have any very short girls?

[Culebra]

Day 1 continued.

Arrived in Buga about an hour drive from Cali. Nice tourist town seems relatively prosperous. Lots of hotels and hostels as this is an important religious site with a large basilica for pilgrims to vist. Lots of tiendas offering merchandise to the visitors and many Bars, Resturants, and Discotecas. Seems the Pilgrims like to party here as well!

My take is that if you have some Spanish skills, you may find some company here from the locals or other tourists, or better yet, bring your date from Cali here, they will love it and the hotels are a bargain! As I was having a business diner, I did not have the chance to try myself, but it seems feasable.

[Culebra]

Business in Buga area all day. Hotel let me chack out late at 3:30pm so I had a chance to come back to town and shower before driving back to Cali.

Nice drive back to Cali, lots of agriculture and Sugar Cane plantations along the way. Good roads.

Arrived in Cali about 16:30. Tried to check into the Hotel Cali Plaza that I had checked out the day before, but they were full! Quoted rate of $124,000COP including breakfast and parking.

I asked the desk clerk to recommend other hotels in the area with parking included and she did recommend 3 places and called them to inquire about open rooms (she was most helpful) thanked her and walked around the area looking for other hotels (there are many) in the Avenida Sexta area. I found one that looked fairly new, modern and clean the Hotel Six Avenue. Asked the desk clerk about availabillity and rates. He quoted $93,000cop including breakfast and parking. I asked to see the room and it was great. Modern wi large hot water shower, Smart flatscreen TV, AC, and a spacios room. Plus they are in the heart of the clubs and other action on Sexta. Took the room and walked around to check out the sites for later exploration.

Checked in around 6:30, got settled and changed to go out. Called the chica I had at Clinica Amor yesterday for a repeat after hours meet, but no answer from her (typical Chica). She had said that she gets off at 7pm and would be available for a TLN. Next off to the Viejo Barril bar, across from the Hotel Cali Plaza, had a couple of beers and watched the futbol. Slow night here but it was early and it seems more of a family / couples place anyway. About 8:30 started trolling on Sexta stopped in at a couple of Discothecas. Kind of spotty that early on a Wednesday night, but picked out my targets for later.

Thought about a Casa visit, but decided to try my luck on the Discoteca scene. About 10:00, stopped by at the Tropicale Resturant / Discoteca / Hotel about in the middle of the strip. Not too much happening but got to talking to the doorman / tout and he of coursed asked if I was interested in a Chica, who isn't?

After he makes a couple of calls, an attractive chica named Dayana stops by. We chat and she seems muy amable, so I ask if she is available for TLN. She explains that she lives with her mom and has to be home before mom wakes up in the morning. So, off we go to another Disco that she likes (Douglas) on Sexta, just a few steps away. We order a bottle of ron and dance and enjoy the music for an hour or so, I get some dancing lessons (much needed here in Colombia) and basically have a good time. Then the detailed negociations start.

She wants $400,000 for near to TLN.

I told her I don't even pay that in Medellin for a week! After telling her that time with such a beauty is priceless anyway.

We agree on $150,000cop and she gets home before mom wakes up!

We arrive at the hotel, and of course, there is a charge for guests. $50,000cop. I pay it, no problem and this hotel is so nice it is worth it. We go up to the roftop pool near to midnight and enjoy the views of the city, then down to my room and a really great GFE session. She gets home in a taxi (she pays) before mom is awake.

Contact info and FB names are exchanged. She will be worth a repeat next time I'm in Cali.

[Culebra]

Late start. Check out of the hotel about noon. Flight to MDE not until 21:45 tonight. Hit Juan Valdez for coffee and internet time. Make some calls and make my way to Chipichape Mall. Nice mall here in the middle of Cali. Lots of locals around and its a good place to meet Chicas if you arrive after work and before dinner as its a popular spot with resturants And bars, cinemas etc.

Free wireless and good place to type trip reports!

Called last nights Chica, we'll see if a love hotel visit is in the cards before I fly back to MDE. Told her this time, no pay for play except taxi and dinner!

[RiceRocket99]

I'm planning a first time Cali trip after several trips to MDE. Would like to get in touch with Parcero, but his inbox is full. Wondering if there's anyway to get hold of him or anyone that offers Cali housing catered to newbies? Thanks!

[MiamiSammy]

I was considering a side trip to Cali and thought I'd break up the trip by staying in Pereira. Any action in town; if so, where?

[FoxesHunter]

Does anybody can tell me is the heat in Cali is bearable? Some years ago I went to Santa Marta, Valledupar and Barranquilla and their climate were unbearable and I run away.

Can you tell me if Cali is cheaper than Medellin for mongering and for living?

Thanks

[Combo]

Cali will generally be a bit hotter than MDE but not as hot as Barranquilla or Cartagena. Having said that, I haven't been there in July, when I imagine it's really hot.

For mongering, I don't think Cali is any cheaper than MDE. For general living expenses, it might be a bit less.

Also, if like all the fake tits and asses in MDE, you'll absolutely love Cali.


Does anybody can tell me is the heat in Cali is bearable? Some years ago I went to Santa Marta, Valledupar and Barranquilla and their climate were unbearable and I run away.

Can you tell me if Cali is cheaper than Medellin for mongering and for living?

Thanks

[Bottom Feeder]

I'll be in Cali March 13 to March 23. I usually stay at the del Rio apart Hotel right on the 'river' close to Dr Amour. I start my day off there with an hour session when they open. As I am 70, I limp back to hotel and rest and answer student e-mail. I teach at a university. I then cross the bridge and walk to club Sonoro around the corner from Clubs Veinte 1 and 2. I drink water and buy a few drinks for the girls and talk them up for about an hour and then do an hour session. Then I cross the street and and have chicken for lunch, sometimes with a girl. Then I take a taxi to park Queido (sp) and hang out there with some of the girls I've gotten to know over the years. I usually take one of them to a handy hotel there and get a massage and CBJ for about an hour. We then walk back to the park and I take a taxi back to the hotel and crash. At 8:00pm I rise from the dead and either walk to Eventos Liz (if they are having a show) or take a taxi to Club La Veinte where I have dinner at the little 'restaurant' next to #2 and then cross the street to #1 and sit down and enjoy the view. I chat up the girls, drink Smirnof and wait till I see something I like. Ah, they maka me feel so young again. I do 1 or 2 sloooooo sessions. Then I take a taxi and go home.

This'll be my 5th trip to Cali and my 20th trip to Colombia. Been mongering since 75 in 20+ countries, now I stick with western time zones. My favorites used to be Batam, K-11 in Cambodia, Villa Mimosa in Rio, Phillipines, Ti-land but now I stick with northern So Am including Manaus, Brasil and a little central Am. Lotsa stories. I enjoy hearing other monger's stories. As the name implies, I don't go for the expensive show girls.

[Lmarcone]

There is a well-known casa called "Flores Frescas"


I was considering a side trip to Cali and thought I'd break up the trip by staying in Pereira. Any action in town; if so, where?
http://colombia.adultsearch.com/pereira/brothel/flores-frescas/2170

[BayBoy]

I'll be in Cali March 13 to March 23. I usually stay at the del Rio apart Hotel right on the 'river' close to Dr Amour. I start my day off there with an hour session when they open. As I am 70, I limp back to hotel and rest and answer student e-mail. I teach at a university. I then cross the bridge and walk to club Sonoro around the corner from Clubs Veinte 1 and 2. I drink water and buy a few drinks for the girls and talk them up for about an hour and then do an hour session. Then I cross the street and and have chicken for lunch, sometimes with a girl. Then I take a taxi to park Queido (sp) and hang out there with some of the girls I've gotten to know over the years. I usually take one of them to a handy hotel there and get a massage and CBJ for about an hour. We then walk back to the park and I take a taxi back to the hotel and crash. At 8:00pm I rise from the dead and either walk to Eventos Liz (if they are having a show) or take a taxi to Club La Veinte where I have dinner at the little 'restaurant' next to #2 and then cross the street to #1 and sit down and enjoy the view. I chat up the girls, drink Smirnof and wait till I see something I like. Ah, they maka me feel so young again. I do 1 or 2 sloooooo sessions. Then I take a taxi and go home.

This'll be my 5th trip to Cali and my 20th trip to Colombia. Been mongering since 75 in 20+ countries, now I stick with western time zones. My favorites used to be Batam, K-11 in Cambodia, Villa Mimosa in Rio, Phillipines, Ti-land but now I stick with northern So Am including Manaus, Brasil and a little central Am. Lotsa stories. I enjoy hearing other monger's stories. As the name implies, I don't go for the expensive show girls.Hola good buddy Bottom Feeder. We'll just miss each other this time around. I'll be in Cali from March 30 to April 7. Your game plan is very similar to mine. Hit Bar La20, Club San Sonero, go along Carrera 8 and also Plaza Caycedo. Maybe not in that order. Looking forward to seeing Gloria, Lorena, Carmensa and all the other chicas along the route. I love the food in Colombia, from the rice and beans, to the chicken, beef, pork and fish. Tilapia, langostino, paella are some of my favorite dishes. The low end places are a kick. Being the only gringo in Bar La20 and soaking in all the action with the big tit and big butt girls walking around its heaven. Have fun and warm up the action for when I get there.

[BayBoy]

Does anybody know if Bar La20 and Club San Sonero are open on Sundays, I can't remember. Somebody mentioned the weather here in Cali. Its about the same as Medellin. Gets up into the 80s by late morning into the afternoon, but by 4 or 5 pm the breezes start up and its very comfortable at night. Shortsleeve weather all the time. In a temperate time zone along the Equator, same temps all year round.

[Member #4394]

Yes veinte is open on Sundays. But there are less chicas. I don't remember about sonero.


Does anybody know if Bar La20 and Club San Sonero are open on Sundays, I can't remember. Somebody mentioned the weather here in Cali. Its about the same as Medellin. Gets up into the 80s by late morning into the afternoon, but by 4 or 5 pm the breezes start up and its very comfortable at night. Shortsleeve weather all the time. In a temperate time zone along the Equator, same temps all year round.

[BayBoy]

Thanks Matt for the info about Bar La20. I'm arriving on a Sunday.

[Grevenstein]

Yes veinte is open on Sundays. But there are less chicas. I don't remember about sonero.Yes Son Soneros open as well on Sundays. See you guys soon.

Saludos

[Member #4394]

in case, i am reposting the previous reports about bar la 20 and the surrounding area. the great majority of reports were contributed by bayboy. thanks a lot, bayboy!

here's the basic info about la20 provided by bayboy: la20 is open from 2pm-10pm. drinks are 2, 500 for beers and mixed drinks and soft drinks are 2, 000. more exotic drinks are more expensive. for the girls its 40k for a half hour and 50k for an hour, unless its gone up recently. chicas in their 20s 30s and 40s. full figured, with big tits in skimpy outfits. chica drinks for the same price as for the guys. it's a blue collar crowd, sometimes loud and some hard drinking colombians, but i always have felt safe in there. guard at the door gives a body patdown to check for weapons. no food. no english spoken. nice rooms upstairs, some with round beds. mirrors on the ceiling and walls. nice bathrooms with showers. there's la20 #2 across the street, but i've never seen much action in there, just a few girls at a time.


action in cali bayboy 3/23/11

! hay carumba! dr. amor is all that i've heard about. got there in the afternoon and was let in to a large living room, very modern, with comfortable couches. there were 11 colombian guys there already, but i soon realized they were just looking at the merchandise and not buying. 25 to 30 good'looking chicas were marched out in front of me. 95 percent very doable. oh choices, choices. but i'm particular to milfs) maduras) and took a sexy one into the next living room. it was the processing place, where i paid at the window and the chica took the preservativos, towels, soap, lotion etc.

we went to an ample room downstairs. had a big bed and was nicely furnished. she gave me a covered bj, tongue job, screwed on top for awhile and finished with a handjob. great personality and willing to do anything. saety, spelling, was her name or something like that. real nice place all in all, very professional.

later on i went to bar la viente. it took me a while to realize it was on the south side of town, in the po' section. but once i got inside i felt comfortable. a very blue collar place, the chicas we not as good a looking as dr. amor, but i like gritty places. there were dozens of colombian guys there nursing their drinks. also about 20 chicas of varying degrees and races. i picked out a milf, i think her name was roberta and we went across the street to a short time hotel. i paid the mamasan and we went to a room, that wasnt that bad inside with a comfortable bed. this chica was pretty wild, she was willing to do all kinds of kinky stuff even things i couldn't go with, but she was fun, with a great personality. i just couldn't get into eating her pussy, but i did put my finger in there. she put a finger up my culo while giving me a blowjob. well i won't go into all these details. but i had a great time there, would go back. even though the neighborhood is very iffy, at best. out.


more cali bayboy 9/21/11.

i decided to go bar hopping today in the afternoon. first stop on the south side.

bar la viente. got there at 2:30 and ordered a beer. a big place, but only had about 8 chicas working, mostly youngish. they were kind of sexy but i just couldn't get enthusied about any of them, plus the energy level was low in there. so i walked over to.

bar sonero. got there at 3 and it was jumping. must have been at least 25 chicas in 3 rooms. these ladies are slutty-sexy, wearing skimpy outfits. the salsa, merengue, tango music was blaring loud kind of like a big party. finally picked out one of the few maduras, which is what i prefer. alejandra was her name. got a room upstairs for 40k half hour. she had a fun personality and did the chupa-lengua thing. tried her best to please me. i left with a good feeling about her and the bar.

there are some good lunch places on the north side of cali. for about 5k got a big lunch. carne, chicken, pork, or pasta, plus the rice and beans, salad and plantain.


bar sonero bayboy 9/21/11.

nclpimp. no, bar sonero's address is calle 19, carrera 8. its on the south side of the cali river. i'm going tomorrow (thur.) late in the afternoon. pm me if you want to hook up.

today, i went back to bar la viente and it was a totally different story. at least 3xs the number of chicas. and my type, slutty-sexy in skimpy outfits many with huge tits hanging out. it was christmas in sept. ended up with julie. had a fun session with her, she did the chupa-lengua-lamber thing the way i like it.

when i was here in march they were taking the guys across the street to the other viente's hotel. now, there's rooms available upstairs for the clients pleasure.


bar la veinte matt psyche 3/27/12.

first of all, thanks a lot to bayboy and wt69 for the info about cali. i arrived at the airport last friday, around 1pm. it was a fairly small airport. it needs an escalator, though. after i checked in at my hotel, i walked 2 blocks to the ave. sexta. while i had expected a wide, trendy boulevard, the ave. sexta was a mediocre street.

around 7pm, i arrived at 'bar la 20 (veinte). ' it was a seedy neighborhood, but the bar was a decent place. there were 2 security guards in front of the door, checking customers' bodies. later they became friendly to me and asked many questions about me. the place was very big with a lot of ceiling fans. the place was packed. there were probably more than 100 guys and 40-50 girls. they had a strip dance and live band music alternating every 30-40 minutes. a bottle of beer was 2. 5k pesos. all the girls, except one, had big asses, and many of them were fat (in medellin standards). but, they may not look fat in the eyes of cali locals. the locals and the girls at the bar came and taked to me, and they were very friendly. two guys bought me a beer. i stayed at the bar for an hour, and left for club sonero, which was a block away.

a friendly security guard at club sonero welcomed me. as i entered sonero, i saw only 3-5 girls and a few guys. so, i left sonero and went back to la 20. in la 20, 20-30 girls came to me and offered a service. one of them was the girl, who was not fat (later she told me that she was a paisa from medellin). i asked her for bbbj, and she said no problem. so i paid 40k peso for o. 5 hr at a cashier-like counter. in the room, i asked for a massage on my foot, and she gave me a decent massage for about 10mnts. after that she massaged my junior and soon began bbbj before i asked. the sex was good but not spectacular. she had a likable, nice personality. on sunday, about 5pm, i came back to la 20. there were about 30-40 guys and 20-30 girls. the paisa girl came to me and started to caress me (i was checking if her hand would move to my pocket, but it did not). she asked me to go upstairs, but i politely declined. in an hour i just left the place to see amiga.

overall, to me, medellin girls look better than calenas. also i prefer restaurants / food in medellin to those in cali. cali was a city smaller than i expected. i had a good time in cali, but i am not sure if i go back.


cali bayboy 5/11/12.

my first full day in cali after flying in last night from miami. i'm getting used to the heat and the food. just love those cafeteria, sidewalk cafes here where i can get a meal (rice, beans, salad, platano, carne and drink) for $5k.

my first stop in the afternoon was clinica dr amor. 20 chicas marched out of the back and shook my hand and told me their names. i finally picked helen and chose the 15 minute session ($26) in the small cabinas. she did a good tongue job on my balls and shaft before putting on the preservativo. great blowjob for the session.

then i walked over to bar la veinte (8 to 9 blocks). about 20 girls in there rep001tered around. all with huge tits and bubble asses. it was heaven. i picked kandy (in her 30s, blond) and did the half hour thing $40k. she was pretty wild, did the blow job thing with deep throat and lots of tongue action. did her backside also. great attitude, might try her again tomorrow.

walked over to club sonero. 1 block away. about 17 chicas in there. mostly plain looking and none of them turned me on. but i did do a lot of flirting while having my beer. they were dancing with the guys to the samba, meringue music, which was kind of lively. walked out without having a sexo session.


more Cali stuff bayboy 5/12/12.

i'm staying at the Windsor hotel. don't know if its chica friendly, i do my thing on the location.

took Member #4394's advice and went down carrera 8, 3 blocks from club sonero (ended at calle 16). didn't find many streetwalkers (1 looked like a tranny, couldn't tell). but there were 5 shorttime hotels on the walk, with chicas standing out front. most werent that goodlooking, but there were a few that looked sexy. one hotel was down a sidestreet. they were charging $20k plus $8k for the room.

i even tried one of them (silia). good blowjob. but this is low down stuff. i was thinking it made bar la veinte look like the moulin rouge. out.


cali streetwalkers bayboy 5/18/12.

i've been in cali the last 3 days. been sessioning mostly with streetwalkers in front of short time hotels on carrera 8 bet. calles 19-16, down from club sonero.

the surprising thing has been how safe it is (in the afternoon) and how friendly the chicas are. my 2 favorites are gloria and lorena.

this is bbbj stuff with deepthroating to the max and lots of tongue action. the way i like it.

club sonero has been a disappointment, most of the chicas just arent that good looking to me. bar la 20 has had its full compliment of chicas except for one day there was only 10 girls there. been enjoying the beers there.


bar la 20 nyajoes 8/30/12.

i went to bar la 20, which has a part a and b, one across the street from the other. heading to there from the square, i saw another dingy looking place that opened later in the day. late in the afternoon, when i was done with bl20, i went to check it out but the quality of chicas was pretty low. was in the area early, so i walked around a bit. going to the left of the corner after bl20, i saw nothing much. to the right of the corner, though, i saw quite a few street walkers that were hiding from the heat in stairwells of various locations, mostly in hospedajes or something similar. then, when i was walking back later to bl20, i saw a security guard posted in this no-name corner near bl20, maybe on street 21 or 22. i went in for a look and the quality of the chicas were average to below average with 1 or 2 above average. didn`t do anything there, since the 2 above average ones kinda just sat there, disinterested.

on with bl20.

i was there sitting for a while. there were 2 chicas that caught my eye. i tried to make eye contact with both (one at a time, of course) , but they didn`t respond. so finally, i went for a younger looking negrita. she would do almost everything, except anal and bbbj (which does not really matter to me). we went up. great thing about this place is there`s a shower in the room. when i went out later, i also found a room full of bedsheets and bath towels, a testament to some degree of cleanliness. the chica was great. i enjoyed her.


cali scene bayboy 8/30/12.

bar la 20 opens at 2pm, and club sonera (calle 19, carrera 8) opens at 2pm also. dr. amor opens at around 10am. all of those places are safe to be in. i've gone up carrera 8 from 19th to 16th, there's 4-5 short time hotels with chicas standing out front. i found them to be scrufty, down and dirty, but safe inside. around the corner from club sonero on 19th theres a short time hotel with usually 4-5 black chicas out front. never tried the place. give those places a try. i'll be there in 2 weeks.


adventures on carrera 8 bayboy 9/15/12.

my 1st day in cali, enjoying the scene here, being on the north side. after going to the bank, getting a haircut, and having lunch at genar pan, my favorite cafeteria-style restaurant (they serve lunch plates with the rice, beans, salad, platano and beef for $5k) i walked over to el centro.

plaza caicedo had a few prostitutas but none of them really turned me on, not very good looking at all. so i walked over to carrera 8. the 1st short time hotel had 5 chicas there and one of my favorites, gloria. she must of been drunk or something because she only charged me $12k for the session. she does a super deep throat, the best in cali and lets me move her head up and down the way i like it.

next i walked 2 blocks over to another short hotel and picked out lola. she insisted on using a preservativo and i couldn't get more than 1/2 hard no matter how hard she tried. just couldn't get off with her. then i walked over to bar la20. had a club Colombian cerveza and relaxed a bit. must have been 15 chicas in there. some good looking, some with the bubble butts and big tits, it was heaven. mostly teased with the chicas cause i didn't have enough dinero for a session. after a while in there, walked over to the short time hotel on calle 19 just down from club sonero.

picked out a young negra, her name was abra, or something like that. she did a good bare-back blow job in that scrufty hotel. which felt safe to me to be in. by then i was out of money, so i just limped back to the hotel and took a nap. out for now.


new area bayboy 9/20/12.

i made a wrong turn down carrera 7 and guess what, i found numerous short time hotels with at 4 chicas standing out front. between 15th and 16th there were 3 hotels, mostly black chicas in front, one with all latinas. i went 2 blocks down and found another short timer, then i turned right on 19th street and there was another one near the corner.

these gals didn't look all that great, but one only asked 15k which i thought was about right for the area.

i{ll probably stay with my favorites on carrera 8 namely gloria and lorena, lorena is a sweetheart with a great personality and real friendly.


downtown adventures mr enternational 1/19/13.

i ran the gamut just like bayboy said. the taxi dropped me off at cra 8 and calle 19. i walked around the whole few blocks checking things out. it was kind of hard to get my bearings and see what was going on because the entire place is a like a builder's supply district. so i had to keep my eyes peeled and peek into crevices to see what was going on behind the scenes. the street walkers went from old and fat to younger and ugly. there were not many options so i settled for who might have been the same person bayboy mentioned. she said her name was [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901). she was old and fat but the least ugly of them all. i asked her how much and she said 20k. i went in then she told me it is an extra 7k for the room. i shouted like little' jon. what! she said okay 5k. i gave her the 25k and she went to pay for the room. when she came back i took out a magnum ecstasy. she said those are not from here. i said how do you know? she said because it is big, and guys here have small dicks. oh well. i told her i was from brazil and commenced to tearing ass up. she wouldn't tell me her real age. she kept saying 92. she had a breast reduction somewhere along the line.

bayboy also mentioned club sonera. i think i went into the place if that is it pictured below. there was no sign anywhere. i didn't talk to anyone i just walked through to check it out. after that i walked around again and had lunch at zar pollo on the corner of cra 7 and calle 15. it cost me 15k for a rib dinner with a chicken feet soup appetizer, mango juice and ripe plantain for desert.

there is a st hotel right across calle 15 from it. there was a yellow sign above it that said tornillos (spanish for screws). i walked past and lo and behold there was the best street walker that i had seen today. i didn't mess with her though. i had to save my power for a non-pro tonight. i walked a couple of more blocks but was talking to a friend about it on facebook through my phone. he told me to go take a picture so i doubled back and took one from across the street and sent it to him.

the only mixed chicas i really saw were really old and ugly. all of the younger girls were black and also ugly. the exception was the one under the tornillos sign.

i started getting more comfortable right before 6 when it was getting dark and all the businesses were closing. now the chaff was separating from the wheat and i could tell who was who and what was what. see when the businesses are open there are many women patronizing them as well as working at them so it is not as hard as you think to get one confused with an sw, especially when your mind is in mongering mode. i continued down the street arguing on facebook with my ex-girlfriend. she wanted me to meet her for dinner at 7 close to her house because she has to work early in the morning, but i wanted her to come to av 6 more around 8 and spend the night. so that ended up being a bust. i continued on looking for bar la 20.


bar la 20: the return mr enternational 1/19/13.

so i went back to la 20 last night about 9:20 and found a big titty girl. she asked if i wanted a session and i said of course, how much? she said 40k. i laughed in her face. (all part of my game since the girl earlier had already told me she would take 35k so i figured most of them would.) she quickly lowered to 35k and i accepted. right before negotiations started the waitress came over. the girl asked me to buy her a drink but i said no. a few minutes later the waitress came back with a drink for the girl? shit it was only 2500 pesos though. normal prices, unlike what a clip joint would try to get you for. she said she was from medellin and had gone to the university for international business, but came to cali to make some money. she said medellin was very small and if she was working the trade back there then her friends and family would surely know. she asked if i was married and i told her no, that i didn't even want a girlfriend. she said she was also happy to be single. i told her,"i can cook and clean my damn self, but i can't fuck myself. and that is where you come in." she said she was happy to oblige.

when i finished my drink i told her i was ready. she poured the rest of her drink into a cup and we were off through an adjoining door to see a lady about a room. i gave the girl 50k and she gave it to the lady inside the cage. it looked like the lady gave her 42k back and she put it into her back pocket (she was wearing jeans). i reached for her pocket to get the money that i was owed but she knocked my hand away and gave me a look like "shut the fuck up." so i was thinking that maybe they are supposed to charge a certain price and she didn't want the lady to know she charged me less. we went up to the room.

the room was pretty nice for hoarhouse standards, and damn clean to say the least. there was a round bed and a tv that the girl went to search for pornos on. on the other side of a wall was a bathroom with a sink, toilet, and a shower (cold water only i think) and it was really clean as well. we got into the session and she was riding me like she was trying to knock my dick through the mattress. the bed literally went from the far corner of the room diagonally to in front of the door. if the door would not have been there to stop it then we would have fucked right out into the hall and down the steps. she must have been in the zone or something because she seriously blamed me for the bed moving when all the while it was her reverse cowgirl skills that did it.

after the session she went in to take a shower while i washed my dick in the sink. we came out and got dressed. all the while i'm thinking i hope this be don't think i forgot about my change. she must have been reading my mind because just as i was about to ask for mi vuelta she reached into one of her pockets and gave me 10k pesos. it seemed kind of strange because i thought she only owed me 7k.

we went downstairs and i told her bye and i went outside. la 20 a had already closed and girls were walking from there across the street to la 20 b where it looked like the party was continuing. i stood outside a while longer then walked to the corner of cra 7 peering down the street in contemplation of whether to retrace my steps from earlier in the day in order to see if the street walkers were still conducting business. it looked pretty desolate down that street so i was pretty much like fuck that. i hailed down the next taxi and told him to take me back to la sexta. i stared down each calle and into each doorway on cra 7 as the driver sped towards calle 15. after he made the right turn i stared down each carrera. there wasn't any action. i was glad i didn't attempt the walk. i arrived at my hotel on la sexta 5000 pesos later.

[Grevenstein]

Thanks Matt for the info about Bar La20. I'm arriving on a Sunday.Would not go there on a Sunday. First of all less chicas and even more important security (less People). The girls from Son Sonero are mostly locals. Different story in la 20. Majority of the girls come from other cities. Some chics even from Medellin. They also live in that building. Easy to invite them for lunch etc.

While living in Cali for some years, it must be said, that the turnover in both places is close to Zero. Different story in Laclinciadoctoramor. Almost every week showing up new hotties.

Sonero has a new star called Samantha aka Catalina. Worth testing but very business driven. Most of the others girls there don't mind sitting down and having a drink. My recommandation there is called Lorena.

Cheers

[Love Handler]

Hi,

Off to Cali tomorrow,

Where is one advised to get hold of black chicks, with good prospect of BBBJ and dirty fuck guaranteed?

All kinds are considered, young skinny hotties to big titted types who provide all services.

Does Dr Amor have negras?

I am looking to have P2P fun although without any safety issues, but am fluent spanish speaker etc.

Does La20 have negras who are worth some fun? Do they do BBBJ.

You replies are welcome

[Orgasmico]

Hi,

Off to Cali tomorrow,

Does Dr Amor have negras?

I am looking to have P2P fun although without any safety issues, but am fluent spanish speaker etc.Yes Dr Amor has it all.

[Nclpimp]

You want BBBJ, they do it but after you paid for the room they will say no, so negotiate ahead of time or they will play dumb. Se hacen las tontas.


Hi,

Off to Cali tomorrow,

Where is one advised to get hold of black chicks, with good prospect of BBBJ and dirty fuck guaranteed?

All kinds are considered, young skinny hotties to big titted types who provide all services.

Does Dr Amor have negras?

I am looking to have P2P fun although without any safety issues, but am fluent spanish speaker etc.

Does La20 have negras who are worth some fun? Do they do BBBJ.

You replies are welcome

[Love Handler]

You want BBBJ, they do it but after you paid for the room they will say no, so negotiate ahead of time or they will play dumb. Se hacen las tontas.Any recomendations in Dr amor?

[BayBoy]

Hi,

Off to Cali tomorrow,

Where is one advised to get hold of black chicks, with good prospect of BBBJ and dirty fuck guaranteed?

All kinds are considered, young skinny hotties to big titted types who provide all services.

Does Dr Amor have negras?

I am looking to have P2P fun although without any safety issues, but am fluent spanish speaker etc.

Does La20 have negras who are worth some fun? Do they do BBBJ.

You replies are welcomeThere are black Calenas in Dr. Amor and Bar La20 a few. A lot more in Club San Sonero. It seems that most of the chicas are dark brown morenas or black in there. You might try Calle 19 and Carrera 7 bet. Calle 19 to 15. Most black chicas on those streets. They stand in front of love hotels plus in some bars along there. As far as BBBJ goes you'll have to negotiate for that. Many will do it for no charge, some will charge extra.

[Grevenstein]

The black chicas in Soneros will be pleased to talk to you. Cheap and mostly no Limits.

At La 20 you will find them in the smaller bar just in front of the main building. Very Close to La 20 you will find two smaller bars- check it out ist safe there as well with black chicks.

Forgot about Plaza Caicedo. There you will find what you are looking for.

Clinica has very few of them. Good luck.

[LatinaLover#1]

I'll be in Cali March 13 to March 23. I usually stay at the del Rio apart Hotel right on the 'river' close to Dr Amour. I start my day off there with an hour session when they open. As I am 70, I limp back to hotel and rest and answer student e-mail. I teach at a university. I then cross the bridge and walk to club Sonoro around the corner from Clubs Veinte 1 and 2. I drink water and buy a few drinks for the girls and talk them up for about an hour and then do an hour session. Then I cross the street and and have chicken for lunch, sometimes with a girl. Then I take a taxi to park Queido (sp) and hang out there with some of the girls I've gotten to know over the years. I usually take one of them to a handy hotel there and get a massage and CBJ for about an hour. We then walk back to the park and I take a taxi back to the hotel and crash. At 8:00pm I rise from the dead and either walk to Eventos Liz (if they are having a show) or take a taxi to Club La Veinte where I have dinner at the little 'restaurant' next to #2 and then cross the street to #1 and sit down and enjoy the view. I chat up the girls, drink Smirnof and wait till I see something I like. Ah, they maka me feel so young again. I do 1 or 2 sloooooo sessions. Then I take a taxi and go home.

This'll be my 5th trip to Cali and my 20th trip to Colombia. Been mongering since 75 in 20+ countries, now I stick with western time zones. My favorites used to be Batam, K-11 in Cambodia, Villa Mimosa in Rio, Phillipines, Ti-land but now I stick with northern So Am including Manaus, Brasil and a little central Am. Lotsa stories. I enjoy hearing other monger's stories. As the name implies, I don't go for the expensive show girls.I have been at this hobby for over 20 years and 5 countries, all Latin. I have never been mugged. I've been robbed a time or two by girls early in my career but never mugged. I'm curious about your experiences with this in the 20 or so countries you have visited.

[Mr Enternational]

I have been at this hobby for over 20 years and 5 countries, all Latin. I have never been mugged. I've been robbed a time or two by girls early in my career but never mugged. I'm curious about your experiences with this in the 20 or so countries you have visited.I've been to over 100 countries. I've hung out in some of the shadiest places. City of God (lived there with my girlfriend. I didn't just walk up in it.) and Rocinha in Rio. Nothing has ever happened to me. I am a Black guy though and the most jewelry I wear out of the USA is a Timex sports watch and sometimes earrings. My first time mongering in Santa Fe in Bogota I walked up to some chicks at a casa during the daytime; I had diamond hoop earrings in. The chicks told me to take them out immediately. My first time in Cali somebody on the Aparthotel Monte Carlo hotel staff stole some items out of our rooms. My own girlfriend in Lima, Peru stole my USA cell phone and made roaming calls (totaling over $400 before I had it turned off) because I never bought her anything. That is it though.

[BayBoy]

I have been at this hobby for over 20 years and 5 countries, all Latin. I have never been mugged. I've been robbed a time or two by girls early in my career but never mugged. I'm curious about your experiences with this in the 20 or so countries you have visited.I've been to just about every country in Central and South America. My general rule is to NOT bring chicas back to my room, had too many theft experiences, the chicas will take anything. From potato chips to tooth brush and toilet paper etc. I do my business on site in the rooms provided or the love hotels. Never been mugged; I've had guys stick their hand in my front pockets (I don't carry a wallet) but fortunately I wasn't carrying any money in that particular pocket. I never carry a lot of money with me, when I withdraw from an ATM I go straight back to my hotel and put it in the safe.

[LatinaLover#1]

I had some jewelry taken and a few dollars. The most I ever had stolen was $300 from my carry on bag that I had, foolishly left unlocked, by 'my girlfriend' of 3 years in Colombia. A lesson I learned that no matter how long you have known them, you can't trust them.

The time I felt most vulnerably was around the corner from Help in Rio at 3 am. A notoriously bad spot for Gringos.

[Bottom Feeder]

Before I changed careers I was a cop in Las Vegas and was shot twice, stabbed once and clubbed from behind with rolling pin all during family beef calls in Latin households. Stay away from pissed off Latins, don't be a hero, carry a fistful of small bills to throw into the air and run when needed.

[Grevenstein]

To whom it may concern;

Due to elections there will be ley seca Saturday 6:00 pm untill Monday morning. Shops like la 20 and Soneros will be open Saturday untill 6.00 pm. Later on no Drinks, without Drinks no locals. No chicks.

Cheers

[Member #4394]

I don't dispute with the issue of theft. They try to steal anything- money, camera, watch, perfume, hair gel, etc. But the benefit side of bringing girls is that chicas are less likely to leave with no or poor service. Often they stay at my room for a few hours for 20-30k. I usually ask hotel employees not to let the girl go before they call me and confirm that everything is OK. Plus, I always hide valuable things somewhere in the room, and check the bathroom when the girls leave my room. I know, still they may be able to steal. It is hard to say which is better.


I've been to just about every country in Central and South America. My general rule is to NOT bring chicas back to my room, had too many theft experiences, the chicas will take anything. From potato chips to tooth brush and toilet paper etc. I do my business on site in the rooms provided or the love hotels. Never been mugged; I've had guys stick their hand in my FRONT pockets (I don't carry a wallet) but fortunately I wasn't carrying any money in that particular pocket. I never carry a lot of money with me, when I withdraw from an ATM I go straight back to my hotel and put it in the safe.

[Member #4244]

That is funny, I have had the exact opposite experience. Having visited about 40 countries and partaken in most of them, and also traveling extensively (extended time, various cities) in Latin America, I have never had anything stolen once by a girl. One time someone at a hotel stole a camera from a friend I was traveling with, but it was an employee there.

I have never ever had an attempt.

To be on the safe side, sure, Matt is right. You shouldn't tempt anyone by leaving stuff laying around and having the doorman or receptionist hold the girls until your say-so is a good idea as well. But I don't consider these necessary precautions, let alone would I consider it a bad idea to bring girls to the room to avoid theft.

[Member #4287]

That is funny, I have had the exact opposite experience. Having visited about 40 countries and partaken in most of them, and also traveling extensively (extended time, various cities) in Latin America, I have never had anything stolen once by a girl. One time someone at a hotel stole a camera from a friend I was traveling with, but it was an employee there.

I have never ever had an attempt.

To be on the safe side, sure, Matt is right. You shouldn't tempt anyone by leaving stuff laying around and having the doorman or receptionist hold the girls until your say-so is a good idea as well. But I don't consider these necessary precautions, let alone would I consider it a bad idea to bring girls to the room to avoid theft."Often they stay at my room for a few hours for 20-30k."
#Wilt
You probably haven't brought girls to your room that are charging 20 to 30K for a few hours. Jajaja.

Any chick that desperate might do just about anything.

[BayBoy]

I don't dispute with the issue of theft. They try to steal anything- money, camera, watch, perfume, hair gel, etc. But the benefit side of bringing girls is that chicas are less likely to leave with no or poor service. Often they stay at my room for a few hours for 20-30k. I usually ask hotel employees not to let the girl go before they call me and confirm that everything is OK. Plus, I always hide valuable things somewhere in the room, and check the bathroom when the girls leave my room. I know, still they may be able to steal. It is hard to say which is better.One time in Rio de Janeiro I had a chica in my room, and she was in the bathroom for the longest time. So I went in there and she had my shaver, tooth paste, brush etc. In her purse. I grabbed it out of her purse and sent her out of the room.

Another thing is, I don't leave meds open in the room, they go in the safe. I've had maids steal pills from my plastic vials. They don't steal the whole thing but a few here and there.

[Member #4394]

Yes makes sense. Great reading comprehension.


"Often they stay at my room for a few hours for 20-30k."

#Wilt.

You probably haven't brought girls to your room that are charging 20 to 30K for a few hours. Jajaja.

Any chick that desperate might do just about anything.

[Ricker]

That is funny, I have had the exact opposite experience. Having visited about 40 countries and partaken in most of them, and also traveling extensively (extended time, various cities) in Latin America, I have never had anything stolen once by a girl. One time someone at a hotel stole a camera from a friend I was traveling with, but it was an employee there.

I have never ever had an attempt.

To be on the safe side, sure, Matt is right. You shouldn't tempt anyone by leaving stuff laying around and having the doorman or receptionist hold the girls until your say-so is a good idea as well. But I don't consider these necessary precautions, let alone would I consider it a bad idea to bring girls to the room to avoid theft.For me, I haven't had problems with the vast majority of girls either.

I do remember once in Caracas a while back though.

After returning from showering in the bathroom, and with the girl now in the bathroom, I found the mini- bar completely emptied and all stuffed into her over-sized purse.

I emptied her purse of all the mini-bar stuff and hid it under the bed.

When she returned, dressed and ready to leave, we said our goodbyes and when she grabbed her purse, expecting it to be heavy, the look on her face was priceless when her bag was light as a feather hahaha.

I just looked at her like 'que'?

[SavePros321]

I do remember once in Caracas a while back though.

After returning from showering in the bathroom, and with the girl now in the bathroom, I found the mini- bar completely emptied and all stuffed into her over-sized purse.

I emptied her purse of all the mini-bar stuff and hid it under the bed.

When she returned, dressed and ready to leave, we said our goodbyes and when she grabbed her purse, expecting it to be heavy, the look on her face was priceless when her bag was light as a feather hahaha.

I just looked at her like 'que'?Awesome, LOL. I don't think I would have been able to keep a straight face!

[LatinaLover#1]

It's true they will steal anything. In Peru I had an afternoon session girl steal my travel size Pantene shampoo and conditioner. I looked all over for it that night when I showered to go to Pizza Alley and nowhere. I had to use the shitty hotel stuff. LOL.

In Brazil I had a girl steal my Sebastian Grease hair groom. The worst part about it is that they discontinued it and I can't find it anywhere.

[Bottom Feeder]

Been here three days so far. Sunday is never slow for me. I do 2 hour sessions (50. 000) with girls fron Park Caicedo on Sunday. Rest, play, rest etc. You know the story of the Old Bull and the young Bull, well thats me. Great action at Bar la Veinte, Sonoro and I tried a new place for me, Capricho (on the Map). Small. 3 girls. 30 k for 1/2 hr. 45 for hr. I tried Isabel was great, good body and attitude. I will do her several more times this trip. My God, $15 for 30 grloious minutes. I'm moving here so I'll look for an apt while I'm here. She gave me a card of a sister club, Melao cr 10 # 6-63 I'll try tomorrow. 20 min 20k 30 min 30k 9-7 Mon thru Saturday. 885-0025. Girls at Eventos young and hungry for biz but I'm too old for them and it was too late for me. Met a German who lives her. If you read this g-Man, I have your info and I need apt and Frankfert info. PM me. Over and out

[MiamiSammy]

It's true they will steal anything. In Peru I had an afternoon session girl steal my travel size Pantene shampoo and conditioner. I looked all over for it that night when I showered to go to Pizza Alley and nowhere. I had to use the shitty hotel stuff. LOL.

In Brazil I had a girl steal my Sebastian Grease hair groom. The worst part about it is that they discontinued it and I can't find it anywhere.You'd think that by throwing them $5-10 for a fuck would allow them to buy their own damn Pantene, dontchachthink? Yeah, I got skinned too, but it was because I was being stupid, not because the girls are kleptos. I'm sure they'd trade lives with you in a heartbeat if you're envious.

[World Travel 69]

For your updates. I added the new place to the map.


Been here three days so far. Sunday is never slow for me. I do 2 hour sessions (50. 000) with girls fron Park Caicedo on Sunday. Rest, play, rest etc. You know the story of the Old Bull and the young Bull, well that's me. Great action at Bar la Veinte, Sonoro and I tried a new place for me, Capricho (on the Map). Small. 3 girls. 30 k for 1/2 hr. 45 for hr. I tried Isabel was great, good body and attitude. I will do her several more times this trip. My God, $15 for 30 glorious minutes. I'm moving here so I'll look for an apt while I'm here. She gave me a card of a sister club, Melao cr 10 # 6-63 I'll try tomorrow. 20 min 20k 30 min 30k 9-7 Mon thru Saturday. 885-0025. Girls at Eventos young and hungry for biz but I'm too old for them and it was too late for me. Met a German who lives her. If you read this g-Man, I have your info and I need apt and Frankfort info. PM me. Over and out

[El Mejor Beso]

For your updates. I added the new place to the map.Can you repost the map of Cali with all the place.

Thanks

[Grevenstein]

Been here three days so far. Sunday is never slow for me. I do 2 hour sessions (50. 000) with girls fron Park Caicedo on Sunday. Rest, play, rest etc. You know the story of the Old Bull and the young Bull, well thats me. Great action at Bar la Veinte, Sonoro and I tried a new place for me, Capricho (on the Map). Small. 3 girls. 30 k for 1/2 hr. 45 for hr. I tried Isabel was great, good body and attitude. I will do her several more times this trip. My God, $15 for 30 grloious minutes. I'm moving here so I'll look for an apt while I'm here. She gave me a card of a sister club, Melao cr 10 # 6-63 I'll try tomorrow. 20 min 20k 30 min 30k 9-7 Mon thru Saturday. 885-0025. Girls at Eventos young and hungry for biz but I'm too old for them and it was too late for me. Met a German who lives her. If you read this g-Man, I have your info and I need apt and Frankfert info. PM me. Over and outThanks, had a great time with you in Sonoro. Info under way. I am busy right now.

Thanks again.

[World Travel 69]

It is on the first page of the List.

It updates automatically, when I make changes.


Can you repost the map of Cali with all the place.

Thanks

[Bottom Feeder]

I love the down and dirty. Needing to go lower and dirtier I started looking around. Only 25 paces to the left of Bar La Viente II is Bar Gardinia. I've never been there but it look seedy enuf for now. Mostly fat and feo chicas but then an angel appeared, well MY kind of angel. A young black chica with big tits lookin' a little sleepy, sittin' all alone. But what caught my eye was two MILK stains on her tee shirt. Yeah, you got it I'm a f-ing prevert for sucking the real thing while banging away. Need protein. I couldn't tell if she was sleepy, drunk or high but I just wanted to get her upstairs or wherever you go there. Who cares lets go. How much baby, $100. 000, 200. 000? Hey BF, calma calma!"40. 000 por 30 minutos". I have never paid that much in Cali before but WTF. OK. I paid at the bar and we went up the tricky staircase (think Villa Mimosa in Rio). Ah, heaven. She must have been ready to suckle cause she was spurting once I got her goin' and she was enjoyin' it, at least I thought she was cause she kept dosing off. I don't mind banging a very drunk chick but a semi-conscious one gives me the shivers. Oh well, bang bang suck suck then after about 10 minutes an angry knock at the door. WTF! An old lady was at the door screaming at me with a baby in a carrier and handed the kid to ME and split. F! The girl didn't seem to notice. I looked at the kid. They all look the same. I was stealing its milk! WTF the kid was fat. I set it down gently by the bed and went back to work. After a few minutes more of pure ecstasy the kid starts to whimper. I grab the top of the carrier with my big toe and rock the cradle so I can keep on. Rule #1. At my age, if you ever get a boner, use it fast! The girl seemed oblivious to all this. The kid quieted down, I guess my toe has got the rhythm and then I blow a magnificent load, well any load for me is magnificent! Then I notice that the room is lighter. I look around and there three chicas looking in through the door and they burst into laughter. One comes in and picks up the baby and says to me laughing in broken English, 'Naughty milkman! '

[BayBoy]

Crazy. Funny story Bottom Feeder. I'll have to check out that Bar Gardinia when I arrive on the 30th. It sounds like a down and dirty place to me. Also that food place you mentioned a while back. Keep the action hot for me when I arrive. Your now officially the Milkman.

[Bottom Feeder]

Last day. Lucero Zully from Bar Sonero came over at 8:00am and gave me a bang and a world class BBBJ and massage for an hour 50. 000. I then went to Melao which looks like an abandoned motorcycle shop. You ring a bell and an old lady comes to get you and takes you back to see the lineup. They said over the phone there were 6 girls, I saw only 3. By the way you need to add 032 to the telephone number because it is a land line. I chose the least good looking girl, the other two were pretty cute but mine looked strong and wasn't too fat. I had an hour for 40. 000. OK service. There was a separate bathroom which really sucks as you have to take your stuff with you and drag your ass down the hall in a small towel to take a cold shower. I then went to Bar Sonero and shot the shit with G-Man before I went up with Claudia for a nice 30 min 30. 000. Then off to Plaza Caicedo for lunch with young black Alicia big boobs for an hour long smoothie ride down BBBJ heaven 50. 000. Then off to Bar La Viente to look for G-man and Valaria a tall slender blonde who is fun and I have know idea what she is saying. My dick was about to fall off so she just gave me a very smooth massage by hand and total body. And what a body she has. And I promised to stay around to see her dance which I was too tired to do. Ill be back in June. As they say in Batam, Cheers!

[Kdog]

Here are some random observations:

1. Palmeto Mall: I was there Friday at 4:00pm and each bar on the first level had 2 fairly hot women trying to get customers to sit down and have a drink. I was told that they will have a drink with you and possibly more. My radar must be broken because I was sitting there for 30 minutes without noticing this going on. After it was pointed out to me, it was as obvious as hell. It all seems very strange because Palmeto is a respectable mall and all this was going around a bounce house with kids playing everywhere in broad daylight. I was with someone and couldn't explore further.

2. Flores Fescas: Still a rip-off, but at least there's no cover now. They also do a full nude show and dance right on a table in front of you. Went 2 nights and the women were just above average. 80 mil for half bottle of rum a little high.

3. Escoces: Slightly better prices than Flores and slightly better women in my mind. I don't like they layout of the bar though. There's no place to chill and drink without feeling like the women are all staring at you.

4. Las Calana's: Horrible. They charged me 20 Mil for, no joking, a drink that contained 2 sips of Bailey's. I'll never be back.

5. Street Girls: I didn't notice many on Av. Sexta. Just 2 were out at 1:00am on Sat night.

6. Marriott: decent if you get the $109 rate and are a Marriott Rewards member. I didn't test to see if they are girl-friendly.

[BayBoy]

I'll be in Cali from Sunday, March 30 to April 7. If anybody is going to be there at that time or is living there, wants to join me for a beer at Bar La20 or Club Sonero or even Juan Valdez for coffee, drop me a PM.

[Grevenstein]

Yes Palmeto Mall is a very respectable mall. The Girls have very respectable Prices as well. Not recommended.

Bad Boy give me a call [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]. See you around

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I'll be in Cali from Sunday, March 30 to April 7. If anybody is going to be there at that time or is living there, wants to join me for a beer at Bar La20 or Club Sonero or even Juan Valdez for coffee, drop me a PM.I forgot to add this link to my previous post, as I thought I would share the link with you in case you are having difficulty finding it. [Deleted by Admin] Enjoy your time in Cali!

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[Kdog]

Yes Palmeto mall is a very respectable mall. The Girls have very respectable Prices as well. Not recommended.

Bad Boy give me a call [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]. See you around.

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Thanks,

Kdog

[Grevenstein]

It seems like a cool place to hang-out even if it costs me a few drinks to chat with these women. I would guess they are all freelancers and there could be some interesting GFE possibilities. It would be refreshing to meet women who negotiate freely as opposed to following the standard prices of a casa or bar for each service. I suspect casas / bars have a chat with each girl before they start working saying offer this for this much, don't offer that, etc. How much are they charging? Is this the only mall in Cali that has this operation? Please share the experience you had.

Thanks,

KdogRight, I see your Point.

On Fridays and Saturdays there a few regular freelancers sitting around. Most of the waitresses are freelancers as well very girls (18 to 19 y). I doubt that some of them are already 18 years old. They get paid per day (20 mill).

They are very hungry for Business. I find it very difficult to get in touch with them because all other Girls starring at you as well. The other tables and guests are close and their collegues as well. Best way to get in touch: while paying your bill pass them a paper with your local cel number. 8 out 10 will call you.

Pameto is in walking distance from my house and I will check pricing tonight or Friday.

Saludos

[Grevenstein]

I have been there last night. Very crowed. Anyway: good news. There have been 8 newcomers. Maybe more because I didn't check the other bar. Nice.

Went upstairs with one of them. Didn't seem to have a lot experience. That turns me on. Going to take her out for lunch on Sunday.

Saludos

[BayBoy]

Here's my 2 day Cali report.

Sunday was generally slow with one exception. Went to Plaza Caicedo it was dead. Went along Carrera 7 and 8 it was dead. Even Club Son Sonero wasnt much happening. But when I got to Bar La20 it was jumping. About 30 chicas, lots of good looking ones, plus a lot of hard drinking Colombian dudes. It was crowded. Finally ended up with Patricia. Gave me a terrible covered blow job, just a waste of time.

Monday was different. Plaza Caicedo still not much happening, but along Carrera 8 was one of my favorite chicas Gloria. Went up stairs and she gave me a blowjob-deepthroat to die for. She not only goes down and takes it all in she holds it there too. Man she is good. Cost 25K included the room. Then I went over to Son Sonero and it was hopping, lots of chicas at least 20 and the music was blaring that Cuban style salsa music. Lots of chocolate brown morenas there plus some white and black chicas too. People were dancing in the small dance floor. Spent about an hour there until I took a picture in the back and the security guard got real angry at me. Figured I should get out of Dodge. Went over to Bar La20. Fair number of chicas about 15, pretty good selection, some good looking ones. Finally ended up some chica can't remember her name. She gave me a pretty good blow job even some deepthroat too, but with a condom. Spent an hour there and felt worn out. Went back to the hotel.

[BayBoy]

My 3rd day was a carrera 8 kind of day.

Went down carrera 8 and ran into an old favorite of mine lorena. Great warm personality, just a sweetheart type gal. Did our sexo thing, she really puts a lot of effort into it. Love that, let me take her picture at the end. After a while went back down carrera 8 and ran into gloria again. Great deepthroat. She's been voted best deepthroat in Cali, by me. Good lady good personality, fun to be with.

In bet. Went into san sonero had a couple of beers. Lots of salsa music playing good crowd. Can't beat those one dollar beers. Then went over to la20 and ogled the chicas, fair amount of action. I could sit in there all day. That was it.

[Grevenstein]

My 3rd day was a carrera 8 kind of day.

Went down carrera 8 and ran into an old favorite of mine lorena. Great warm personality, just a sweetheart type gal. Did our sexo thing, she really puts a lot of effort into it. Love that, let me take her picture at the end. After a while went back down carrera 8 and ran into gloria again. Great deepthroat. She's been voted best deepthroat in Cali, by me. Good lady good personality, fun to be with.

In bet. Went into san sonero had a couple of beers. Lots of salsa music playing good crowd. Can't beat those one dollar beers. Then went over to la20 and ogled the chicas, fair amount of action. I could sit in there all day. That was it.Hi Bad Boy,

Drop me a PM. Like to buy you a 1 Dollar beer. Any place.

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[Member #4394]

Great report, BayBoy.

Not everybody can do two or three times a day like you. I believe that almost all girls there are big girls with boobs and booty.


My 3rd day was a carrera 8 kind of day.

Went down carrera 8 and ran into an old favorite of mine lorena. Great warm personality, just a sweetheart type gal. Did our sexo thing, she really puts a lot of effort into it. Love that, let me take her picture at the end. After a while went back down carrera 8 and ran into gloria again. Great deepthroat. She's been voted best deepthroat in Cali, by me. Good lady good personality, fun to be with.

In bet. Went into san sonero had a couple of beers. Lots of salsa music playing good crowd. Can't beat those one dollar beers. Then went over to la20 and ogled the chicas, fair amount of action. I could sit in there all day. That was it.

[BayBoy]

[1550238]Great report, BayBoy.

Not everybody can do two or three times a day like you. I believe that almost all girls there are big girls with boobs and booty.[/QUOTE]Hola,

You leave Colombia and I come in; having a good time here seeing all my old girl friends on the streets and in La20 and Sonero. Yes La20 still has some big boobed chicas. Enjoying the food also. Tilapia, Robalo, and Langostinos too.

[Love Handler]

Following recommendations on the forum, I visted Cali a few weeks ago, I managed to find the Bar La 20 on Calle 19 and, much more difficult, San Sonero. The taxi drivers didn't know where it was.

Tip: its a croner bar with a small discrete opening on Carrera 7 with a sort of polished steel frontage, near to various local business, I was expecting various chica bars next to each other with neon lights as per Sante Fe in Bogota, however its much different.

I was not that impresses with La 20 or Sonero although I must state I was looking for negras, which were in short supply.

There was only 1 in La 20, although one apeared later on at 4pm in the sister bar across the road, but no BBBJ on the Carta so I left.

San Sonero, which I expected to be full of slutty negras, was lacking. I didn't see one.

There were some in the streets, but of poor description and some on the Carrera 7 were evidently menfolk.

I left Cali with no apprecation of its pussy for sale as had run out of both browsing and exercise time. Perhaps it was a bad day.

I had previously arrived at the Clinica and although there was some choice, I left to get some sweaty black pussy at the run down centre.

Unfortunately it didn't happen. I will probably retun the the Clinica next time for guaranteed adventures in chocha.

I read other reports with interest. Cali remains in my monger book as "return visit required" but certainly not in my top ten.

[BayBoy]

Went to Club Son Sonero today and saw at least 6 negras there. Ended up with Brenda, a tall, older negra and went up to the room with her. Its 30K for a half hour. She gave me a covered chupa and did a finger wave in my culo, very nice affair, friendly personality.

DIFFERENCES bet. Bar La20 and Sonero. The chicas are better looking in La20 and a little classier. Sonero plays that samba, salsa, meringue music real loud and it gets me going.

One way to make the money in those places is to be a waiter or waitress and get tips. 90% of the guys go in to those two places to drink only, many of them don't seem too interested in havng sex with the chicas. A lot of the guys drink real heavy, besides the beer, its the hard stuff straight, shot after shot until they pass out, its funny.

[BayBoy]

Love Handler. I can't believe you didn't see any negras in Son Sonero. I've been in there the last 5 days and theres been plenty to choose from every day. Most of the time their sitting in the back room. Always seen negras there every time I've been there. It must have had a bad day when you went.

[Member #4394]

The guys at veinte really like drinking. When I was there, a few drunken guys bought me beer. These guys are nice guys, but they are not interested in, or have no money for, the girls in the bar. BTW, BayBoy, how much does a langostino lunch cost? I would like to try next time.



Went to Club Son Sonero today and saw at least 6 negras there. Ended up with Brenda, a tall, older negra and went up to the room with her. Its 30K for a half hour. She gave me a covered chupa and did a finger wave in my culo, very nice affair, friendly personality.

DIFFERENCES bet. Bar La20 and Sonero. The chicas are better looking in La20 and a little classier. Sonero plays that samba, salsa, meringue music real loud and it gets me going.

One way to make the money in those places is to be a waiter or waitress and get tips. 90% of the guys go in to those two places to drink only, many of them don't seem too interested in havng sex with the chicas. A lot of the guys drink real heavy, besides the beer, its the hard stuff straight, shot after shot until they pass out, its funny.

[Cubanut]

Following recommendations on the forum, I visited Cali a few weeks ago. I must state I was looking for negras, which were in short supply. I read other reports with interest. Cali remains in my monger book as "return visit required" but certainly not in my top ten.Hello LH,

I am not a big fan of Negras but I will not shy away from a nice one either.

I have not heard you mention anything of going to Olimpus or their sister location, Lomas. I was in Cali a this past February and at Olimpus, I'd say half of the dozen or so girls there were Negras. At their sister location, Lomas, there were about 30 girls and of those about 10 were Negras. Of the 10, I'd say 4 were just doable but 2 were extremely fine! Cost in house is cop 55,000 1/2 hour & cop 80,000 for the hour.

Olimpus is open from 5pm to midnight and Lomas is open from 6pm til 4am. Both are closed Sunday. There is a cop $5,000 cover if you go to either location. However, as you leave either place, you can get a coupon for free entry to the other location for the same night. So I alwayd hit Olimpus first then gp over to Lomas.

Cheers,

Cubanut

[BayBoy]

[1550580]The guys at veinte really like drinking. When I was there, a few drunken guys bought me beer. These guys are nice guys, but they are not interested in, or have no money for, the girls in the bar. BTW, BayBoy, how much does a langostino lunch cost? I would like to try next time.[/QUOTE]The guys who are just drinking are spending as much on the beer, hard stuff booze and shots as they would spend for the chicas. I guess the drinking is what they{re in there for. I had langostinos in a paella, great stuff, also had shrimp, clams, chicken and other goodies in the meal etc. Cost 22K for the plate. A separate langostino dinner would be 30K plus at many restaurants.

[BayBoy]

Its been fun the last 9 days, lots of action and chicas to choose from; some thoughts on the 2 bars:

SON SONERO The waiters and security people made a big attempt to make friends with me, I really appreciated that. Sessioned with Alessandra a few days ago. She gave me a tongue job, good blow job, and liked to have sex standing up, doggy style. Been in here a dozen times, always negras every time. Dark environment, not good.

BAR LA20 Chicas definitely better looking and more stylish dressers. Much lighter environment, easier to make out the chicas.

Thats all folks. Out.

[Love Handler]

Hello LH,

I am not a big fan of Negras but I will not shy away from a nice one either.

I have not heard you mention anything of going to Olimpus or their sister location, Lomas. I was in Cali a this past February and at Olimpus, I'd say half of the dozen or so girls there were Negras. At their sister location, Lomas, there were about 30 girls and of those about 10 were Negras. Of the 10, I'd say 4 were just doable but 2 were extremely fine! Cost in house is cop 55, 000 1/2 hour & cop 80, 000 for the hour.

Olimpus is open from 5pm to midnight and Lomas is open from 6pm til 4am. Both are closed Sunday. There is a cop $5, 000 cover if you go to either location. However, as you leave either place, you can get a coupon for free entry to the other location for the same night. So I alwayd hit Olimpus first then gp over to Lomas.

Cheers,

CubanutNo thats the type of negra I like, nice body, nice tits, not too old and not too fat.

I have seen some stunners here in the high end clubs in Bogota but they charge far too much (400-500 thousand pesos)

Unfortunately I didn't see any like her that day, it was an afternoon. Thanks for all the comments and recommendations of other places.

Based on comments provided I will try again next time to see if have better luck. Maybe a night over to try Olimpus.

Sometimes places can be like that, I have found some places in Bogota are terrible one month and then great the next. Comes with the hobby.

[Shamester]

So my trip was a lot of fun. I was in Cali for 8 days. As far as mongering, I hit 2 cases. Dr. Amor had about 30 girls in all shapes, sizes, and colors. Definitely a flavor there for all. I hit another smaller casa, of which I don't remember the name but I had a great time. BBBJ and the whole nine. In fact, I almost thought she was going to try to slip it in raw dog when she was on top but thankfully she put the jimmy on without me asking her to, LOL

Besides that, I pretty much just hung out with regular babes I met in various locations and spent a Colombian New Years Eve with a girl I met and her family.

Here are a few images from my trip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a782QuK7Kg4Very nice video.

[Blooger]

I'm traveling to Cali in 2 months and I'd love to get in touch with this girl from the attachment. I don't have her name but would love to get in touch with her. I know I'm not an active member of this board. And yes I'm a bit desperate. So if you can help me to get in touch with her, that would be awesome. Please pm me.

Thanks!

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[Ricker]

I'm traveling to Cali in 2 months and I'd love to get in touch with this girl from the attachment. I don't have her name but would love to get in touch with her. I know I'm not an active member of this board. And yes I'm a bit desperate. So if you can help me to get in touch with her, that would be awesome. Please pm me.

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JacksonI think she's working at Koko Rico on Avenida Sexta!

:)

[SlamCity7777]

I think she's working at Koko Rico on Avenida Sexta!Koko Rico? Frisby is much better and in Bogota Cali Mio rules them all!

[Blooger]

I think she's working at Koko Rico on Avenida Sexta!You mean the Fast Food place? Funny.

[Ricker]

You mean the Fast Food place? Funny.Yeah, I was just foolin around.

I do like to eat at Kokorico though hahaha, and I have seen some cuties working there.

[Blooger]

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[Jinxx]

I went to check out Bar La 20 a couple of weeks ago and I wasn't that impressed. I saw maybe 15 chicas with only maybe 3 doable on a Wednesday night. I love the big booties and I remember someone here saying how this place was full of big booty hoes. That's not what I found at all. There were quite a few bad shaped fake butt implants. I ended up going witha thin morena with a nice sized culo and a very pretty face, don't remember her name. When we got to the room and she got the condom on me she pulled out a bottle of baby oil and starts lubing up her snatch and my covered cock with it. I tried to explain to her that she should be using a water based lube since the baby oil can eat through the latex and cause the comdom to break. She seemed like she wasn't buying what I told her and said that she'd never had a problem using baby oil. That kind of threw me off because I then became a little worried that the condom might break. Then since she claimed that my cock was too big that she had to keep her hand blocking me from going all the way inside her. So I ended up fucking her hand and maybe 3 inches of her pussy, which was annoying. I pounded her the best I could and I still busted a nut because this girl really had a very beautiful face and lips that looked awesome while she was getting fucked.

I hit Dr. Amor about three times while I was in town and I was very impressed with how nice the place is. The last time I went I took this swiss guy with me who is totally against paying for pussy. I told him he could just chill and drink a beer while I did a 30 minute session, that way he could at least scope out the scene. I told him they'd bring out like 10 or 15 gorgeous chicas in the presentation. Holy shit we were blown away, they brought out at least THIRTY chicas for the presentation. This swiss guy couldn't believe his eyes it was funny as hell. The only problem is there are so many girls I can't remember the names of the girl I want to pick when it comes time to choose. I wanted this big booty morena that I saw but the workers couldn't find her for me, so I ended up with another young hottie. You really can't go wrong in this place as far as looks. It was funny when I finished and I walked back to the waiting area my swiss buddy was there and it was like all eyes on him with the chicas. He's a young, handsome, blonde guy and the chicas were doing their best to flirt with him so he would pick one of them to fuck. This guy had some strong will power because I know he's a horny bastard. Me and him were all over the girls at our hostel and at the bars we were hanging out at.

[Ryu2891]

I went to check out Bar La 20 a couple of weeks ago and I wasn't that impressed. I saw maybe 15 chicas with only maybe 3 doable on a Wednesday night. I love the big booties and I remember someone here saying how this place was full of big booty hoes. That's not what I found at all. There were quite a few bad shaped fake butt implants. I ended up going witha thin morena with a nice sized culo and a very pretty face, don't remember her name. When we got to the room and she got the condom on me she pulled out a bottle of baby oil and starts lubing up her snatch and my covered cock with it. I tried to explain to her that she should be using a water based lube since the baby oil can eat through the latex and cause the comdom to break. She seemed like she wasn't buying what I told her and said that she'd never had a problem using baby oil. That kind of threw me off because I then became a little worried that the condom might break. Then since she claimed that my cock was too big that she had to keep her hand blocking me from going all the way inside her. So I ended up fucking her hand and maybe 3 inches of her pussy, which was annoying. I pounded her the best I could and I still busted a nut because this girl really had a very beautiful face and lips that looked awesome while she was getting fucked...I'm new to this forum and scene. Altho I've spent a couple months lurking around and reading up on stuff and gathering great intel (thanks BTW) just wanted to comment that it's great to see you guys update these forums. Wanted to give my thanks and hope I'm able to contribute when I make my trip to Cali this year. Or any part of Colombia for that matter. Hoping to go sometime in November. If anyone has a contact for an apartment or penthouse, I'd greatly appreciate it.

[Olympo Host]

Gentlemen,

As you may see from previous posts, I have been working in the development of a service for guys that would like to enjoy Colombian girls while minimizing any hassles that may arise in their endeavor. I wrote the last post long time ago, and since then, I have faced a couple of setbacks and complications, and quite frankly, moments of doubt where I wasn't sure if I should go through with it or not, or even if it would work. As Mr. Enternational noted in one of the replies, this is not simple, not by any means. There were many naysayers within my friends and family who advised me to just drop it and do something else. But I kept going through with it thinking that the worst that can happen is that it doesn't work and that's it, I move on. At least I had to try. If it doesn't work, well, I tried my best, and I can live with that.

So, after a couple of months, it is finally ready to be put out there for the Internet to see. Many of the things that were mentioned back in October were considered, as well as other places that already provide this type of service. In regards to All-inclusive packages, I tried to make as good an offer as I could without basically eliminating profit. As much as I would like to be a Mother Teresa to the mongering world, this is supposed to be a business after all and it has to generate profit.

As Phunluv pointed out back then, I am well-aware of the despise for middlemen from the majority of guys here and I can see why that would be. As someone who has traveled and enjoyed p4 p in different countries, I understand why middlemen are looked down upon. A couple of replies advised that I would not find any clients here, which I consider to be realistic reasoning, but I wouldn't know for sure if I don't post it, hoping that at least 1 or 2 forum members would be interested.

The all-inclusive offer consists of a flat-rate that covers lodging, food, liquor, ground transportation, and the girls. I think of it as a way to facilitate things for those that want to be with Colombian women or those that are already interested in traveling to Cali (specially for those that don't speak Spanish). My aim is that from the moment you are picked at the airport, you won't have to worry about anything except enjoying the girls throughout your trip. The place is obviously chica friendly, and if you would like to smoke a jay or two, feel free to do so.

I am certainly open to customizing the service on an individual basis to better accommodate for different budgets, depending on your circumstances and what you want from the service. Just send me a PM. Here's a video of the place and the girls (and some pictures too).

Hope you guys like it. Enjoy!

[Kdog]

Wow, that's a seriously disfigured ass. And such a pretty face. Why would she do that to herself? I've never seen a single butt injection that looked good. But my God, some are so horrible they couldn't pay me to have sex. My theory is women who get those injections notice more men looking, but they are mostly looking in shock and disgust. It's gotten so bad in Colombia, I don't go there anymore. My point of writing this. If you agree with me, try to convince these women not to get those injections. I've never been a big fan of the breast injections either, but these butt injections are really a big turn-off for me.


Gentlemen,

As you may see from previous posts, I have been working in the development of a service for guys that would like to enjoy Colombian girls while minimizing any hassles that may arise in their endeavor. I wrote the last post long time ago, and since then, I have faced a couple of setbacks and complications, and quite frankly, moments of doubt where I wasn't sure if I should go through with it or not, or even if it would work. As Mr. Enternational noted in one of the replies, this is not simple, not by any means. There were many naysayers within my friends and family who advised me to just drop it and do something else. But I kept going through with it thinking that the worst that can happen is that it doesn't work and that's it, I move on. At least I had to try. If it doesn't work, well, I tried my best, and I can live with that.

So, after a couple of months, it is finally ready to be put out there for the Internet to see. Many of the things that were mentioned back in October were considered, as well as other places that already provide this type of service. In regards to All-inclusive packages, I tried to make as good an offer as I could without basically eliminating profit. As much as I would like to be a Mother Teresa to the mongering world, this is supposed to be a business after all and it has to generate profit.

As Phunluv pointed out back then, I am well-aware of the despise for middlemen from the majority of guys here and I can see why that would be. As someone who has traveled and enjoyed p4 p in different countries, I understand why middlemen are looked down upon. A couple of replies advised that I would not find any clients here, which I consider to be realistic reasoning, but I wouldn't know for sure if I don't post it, hoping that at least 1 or 2 forum members would be interested.

The all-inclusive offer consists of a flat-rate that covers lodging, food, liquor, ground transportation, and the girls. I think of it as a way to facilitate things for those that want to be with Colombian women or those that are already interested in traveling to Cali (specially for those that don't speak Spanish). My aim is that from the moment you are picked at the airport, you won't have to worry about anything except enjoying the girls throughout your trip. The place is obviously chica friendly, and if you would like to smoke a jay or two, feel free to do so.

I am certainly open to customizing the service on an individual basis to better accommodate for different budgets, depending on your circumstances and what you want from the service. Just send me a PM. Here's a video of the place and the girls (and some pictures too).

Hope you guys like it. Enjoy!

[Combo]

Wow, that's a seriously disfigured ass. And such a pretty face. Why would she do that to herself? I've never seen a single butt injection that looked good. But my God, some are so horrible they couldn't pay me to have sex. My theory is women who get those injections notice more men looking, but they are mostly looking in shock and disgust. It's gotten so bad in Colombia, I don't go there anymore. My point of writing this. If you agree with me, try to convince these women not to get those injections. I've never been a big fan of the breast injections either, but these butt injections are really a big turn-off for me.I've tried to convince many Colombianas to NOT have breast and / or butt augmentation, but they rarely take my advice. You're right, it's gotten to an absurd level. Some of the girls look (and more importantly, feel) ridiculous. And if they've had the surgery recently, your experience is likely to be lousy as they won't want you to touch them because it hurts.

[Mr Enternational]

I've tried to convince many Colombianas to NOT have breast and / or butt augmentation, but they rarely take my advice. You're right, it's gotten to an absurd level. Some of the girls look (and more importantly, feel) ridiculous. And if they've had the surgery recently, your experience is likely to be lousy as they won't want you to touch them because it hurts.Exactly. That is like telling a kid in the 80's not to buy a Michael Jackson Thriller or Beat It jacket. It's part of the culture now. My ex-girlfriend in Cali is rail thin, but asked me to give her money to get fat removed from her abdomen and injected into her ass. Uhhh. First of all, you have no fat. Second of all, NO.

[Mr Enternational]

So, after a couple of months, it is finally ready to be put out there for the Internet to see. Many of the things that were mentioned back in October were considered, as well as other places that already provide this type of service. In regards to All-inclusive packages, I tried to make as good an offer as I could without basically eliminating profit. As much as I would like to be a Mother Teresa to the mongering world, this is supposed to be a business after all and it has to generate profit.Good luck man. I wish you much success with your venture.

[Manizales911]

Good luck man. I wish you much success with your venture.At $1500. USD a night he's going to need all the luck he can get.

[TellAll]

At $1500. USD a night he's going to need all the luck he can get.1500 is a lot. I could fuck, eat, drink everyday and have change at the end of the week.

Still will be interesting to see how he does.

[Zepplin]

Went to Bar Le 20 last night. I guess I didn't read the forum well enough to realize that the bar does in fact have two locations (right across the street from each other). I liked this setup as I could sit in one bar for 30min or so and then go into the one across the street for some variety.

The best thing about this place is the affordability. I paid 2k for a soft drink and domestic beers were 2500 (can't beat that). The women were as described: Older and heavier. This isn't a problem for me as I like women with some meat on their bones, however, some of them were really over the hill. I would say there were about 20-25 girls in there with about 5 of them being fit and younger (27 or under). I paid 40k with room for a heavyset woman with long curly hair and big knockers (I'm a sucker for big breasts). The room was decent and had a little bathroom area and some porn playing on the TV. She washed me off and gave me an average CBJ followed by very mechanical sex. I'm not sure if it is the language barrier, but I am having a hard time getting anywhere near GFE in Colombia (that includes Bogota, Medellin and now Cali). I feel like the girls just hop on and want to get you off in as little time as possible. I gave her a 5k propina and returned to the bar.

On the GFE front I have tried several different approaches since I've been in Colombia. I have paid a ton up front in hopes of good service (350k) as well as the shortest time / cheapest available (15 min quickie) and tried to mention to the girl that the time would be extended and she could earn a tip with good service. What I have found that happens most of the time is that the girls make promises and once you hand over the money, they are back to the same poor service.

At this point, my trip to Colombia hasn't paid of economically. While the general quality of woman has been better than the USA, the service has been a whole lot lower. I'm the type of guy that would take a 5 or 6 with excellent service over a dead fish / clock watching stunner any day of the week.

What am I doing wrong here guys? Any help would be appreciated. I'm hoping to salvage this trip and have many more in the future!I' m back from Cali and I'll get a trip report up soon. Jut so you know, Cali can be navigated without a lot of Spanish. You can get a hotel where they speak English. They will pick you up at the airport. You can order food by pointing to a picture on a menu, hire a driver to get you around, but to have a good time with the girls you need to know a little Spanish. Plus the gringo tax will be in full effect if you cannot work a deal. (Well a good driver would get a good deal for you).

When you are one on one with the girl, if you don't know some simple phrases and are not able to generate some sort of good vibe, you can save yourself a trip. The girls here do not speak much English.

After 3 x trips to mde, Cali has been on my to do list for a long time. It was every bit as good or better than mde. Just a bit warm in July.

Z.

[IamLookin]

At $1500. USD a night he's going to need all the luck he can get.If you know Spanish, clean cut, well dressed and present yourself well, you will have no problems meeting girls. I spent a weekend with 3 different girls (separately) all under 24 years of age and all beautiful and maybe paid a total of $300. I don't drink much and avoid women that do. There is no need to go through an agency unless you have money to burn.

I think the average colombian may make the equivalent of $300 per month. So if you pay a girl the equivalent of $100 for a night (or for a weekend, sometimes they will stay Saturday night thru Sunday night) that should do the trick. I am over 58 years of age and never had a problem.

Enjoy Cali! Don't be a fool with your money.

[Ryu2891]

Will be making a trip for a week in November. Will anyone be there that month? I'm supposed to be going with a friend but it isn't secure that person will be able to make the trip. Could use a wingman. Maybe go see the sights as it is my first time there. Hoping to get a good report in as I am hoping to contribute more as I get more comfortable being in this new hobby.

[Masthope]

Accommodation:

Cali plaza hotel is good to stay. i was there for 8 nights in august. female guests can come in anytime during the stay, but must have i'd and photocopy of the i'd is left at the desk. the hotel staff is familial / collegial and friendly with a good service attitude. the wi-fi is strong and good speed. the hotel comes up quickly on agoda and hotels.com. however, you can also contact the director of events directly to negotiate a price including all taxes, and double occupancy and breakfast for two. i paid what came out to be about 70 usd per night for a one bedroom / one bath full kitchen apartment inclusive of all taxes, breakfasts for two and unlimited guests with i'd. the hotel is clean and enough space in the rooms. however, try and stay in the back (example room 201,202, 301) as there is an open air bar / restaurant (good one / popular in the area of the city el viejo barril) directly across the street and it is loud.

director of events: Ana Karina pena.

cell: 57 3XXXX 9968 (you can call her for her email or try through website; and email through the website will get to ana karina) http://caliplaza.com/en.

In Colombia it is easier if you can communicate in Spanish, but can get it done in English. many Colombians can understand English, but are not comfortable to speak or communicate back in English.

casa (pro cathouse):

i also visited a casa (house) and it was fine. clean and security and well run. the hours are 9 am 9 pm and the address is below. the name is clinica dr. amor. av. 2 norte #23 and-23 (sobre la avenida del areo) be / san Vicente: www.clinicadoctoramor.com.

i also wrote up a little story:

i was breakfasting at my hotel Cali plaza hotel and two clearly american large black tourists exited. they looked familiar from travels to Angeles city, Pattaya and sosua, but i had not met these particular gentlemen from Texas. real nice guys, and have been all around Colombia. they were going to a casa after and i asked to join them to the casa, we left around 11:30 am. i was glad to tag along and they were very happy with my Spanish speech level (5 or 6). the casa was fun and busy with locals; we were the only extranjeros / non Colombians. i picked a big pretty face dark skinned pro and she let me get dirty with her. she did not have "no" in her vocabulary (i knew what not to ask for, i did not try for i. e. bbbj with tip) and let me daty standing and assplay and nice wet cbj and naturally horny. she was a lot of fun and i tipped 20,000 ($11 usd). entire cost was 5-6 usd taxi round trip (close place) 55,000 (28 usd) for a half hour full service with the girl and 10 usd tip. nice value. i enjoyed being in an authentic and local *house. big place the girls (about 15 30 of them) live there and clean and serious security guys. the chicks were not overly beautiful. lots of boob jobs and some ass jobs. no thin spinners at the time of visit. Colombian experienced pros. they march through and shake your hand and three levels of payment. i like to pick one that has a good attitude; try and sense it from demeanor etc. lots of 5's, but a couple of solid 6's that's about it and all you really need. both texas friends stayed for round two good stuff and fun.

For a couple of pics is my local semi pro Ana. I found Ana more than a year ago working on one of the pay-for-play webcam chat websites. there are many studios for this action in cali. best to work them in advance as their website chat rooms are blocked when you attempt access within Colombia. some of the sites are: www.cams.com www.myfreecams.com www.livejasmin.com and www.chaturbate.com . spanish communication is a must to meet these non / semi pros. i love to photo Ana, and she likes it too. it adds to the gfe ana and i share and i help her with cash to make ends meet etc. Ana is out of the webcams business for now and working at a beautician store in chipichape mall. beautiful girl and loves to dance.

[Masthope]

Hi, these are the photos from the August trip, thanks.

[Masthope]

Hi, these are the photos from the August trip.

[Mr Enternational]

Accommodation:

Cali Plaza Hotel is good to stay. However, you can also contact the director of events directly to negotiate a price including all taxes, and double occupancy and breakfast for two. I paid what came out to be about 70 USD per night for a one bedroom / one bath full kitchen apartment inclusive of all taxes,Aren't foreigners exempt from hotel taxes in Colombia? They let me in on that years ago when I used to stay at the Don Jaime.
I was breakfasting at my hotel Cali Plaza Hotel and two clearly American large black tourists exited. They looked familiar from travels to Angeles City, Pattaya and Sosua, but I had not met these particular gentlemen from Texas. Real nice guys, and have been all around Columbia. If I am not mistaken, I am in a secret fb group with one of these guys. He just posted about being in Clinica Amor on the 15th.
I found Ana more than a year ago working on one of the pay-for-play webcam chat websites. There are many studios for this action in Cali. Best to work them in advance as their website chat rooms are blocked when you attempt access within Columbia. Some time ago one of my chicks in Cali was going to do the cam thing. They get to decide which countries their "show" will be blocked in to inhibit family and friends from finding out what they do.

[Dpilzbo]

Thanks for sharing the photos too. I will be in Cali next week and my wingman wanted to stay at Cali Plaza this trip. Your report and a few others makes him think it will be a good place to check out at least once. Just remember, when speaking of the country, there is no letter (U) in Colombia. Funny thing is that even the Colombians are making a joke of it. There are coffee mugs and shirts at the gift shop in the Medellin airport (the last one you walk by when headed to the departure gate) that have something to that effect written on them.

Mr E I wondered the same thing about those taxes. Some places have charged me and others did not. The disclaimers as I understand them make me think we should not. Any local guests we have staying with us would be subject to it but we should not. Maybe someone else can clear that up but I am going to ask my realtor friend in Medellin about it on Thursday when I see him.

Thanks to the other posters on this thread as well. It helped with my first visit to Cali and a few have me interested in some new areas to explore this upcoming visit. I have not posted in a while but will post some stuff about the Cali portion of this trip to Colombia. #21-yeah I am hooked!

DP

[Cartola28]

Is Cali the best place for meeting black Colombian women? From what I've read it seems to be (or at least has the highest population). I noticed on the those cam sites like MFC and chaturbate, the hottest girls with the most bangin bodies almost always seem to be, without fail, the black colombian girls. I also noticed that some of the lighter skinned Colombian girls modify their bodies and still do not have as good bodies. These black colombian girls seem like a much under-appreciated gem in the mongering world (maybe I'm wrong).

Are there any specific casas or escort websites that have a lot of black girls. Or any clubs in general? Is a normal non-pro situation (or modest help with expenses) possible for someone with limited Spanish? Are there any racial issues in terms of black colombians and white gringos?(Is it frowned upon by the culture? Despite the fact the cam sites are saturated with black Colombians, I am having trouble finding escort sites with any. Is anal difficult to get in Colombia compared to Brazil?(I. E. Something not usually offered as part of the total price?

Thanks

[Mr Enternational]

Is Cali the best place for meeting black Colombian women? From what I've read it seems to be (or at least has the highest population).That would probably depend on what you were "meeting" them for. A serious relationship? A booty call? P4P? From my travels throughout Colombia, Cartagena appeared to me to have the highest ratio of Black people.


Are there any specific casas or escort websites that have a lot of black girls. Or any clubs in general? Is a normal non-pro situation (or modest help with expenses) possible for someone with limited Spanish? It appears you are trying to straddle the fence. Either you want a hooker or you want a woman who is not a hooker. Why would you be open to giving money to women who are not hookers, therefore, by definition, turning them into hookers? My first time in Colombia was to see a girl who was a lawyer. I did not speak Spanish and she did not speak English. I spoke Portuguese though so I was able to make out a lot of the Spanish. I have since learned Spanish and it is no problem for me to get non-pros. But thinking you are just going to pop up in a country where you do not speak the language and normal women are going to screw your brains out: that country does not exist. It's best to get on a dating site before you go and start fostering relationships.


Is anal difficult to get in Colombia compared to Brazil?(I. E. Something not usually offered as part of the total price?Well I have done it with several non-pros that I know, but it seems you are more interested in P4P. My P4P is limited, but the mongering that I have done in places like Santa Fe in Bogota some service providers did offer it as an up-sell. How widespread (no pun intended) it is, I could not say.

[BayBoy]

Is Cali the best place for meeting black Colombian women? From what I've read it seems to be (or at least has the highest population). I noticed on the those cam sites like MFC and chaturbate, the hottest girls with the most bangin bodies almost always seem to be, without fail, the black colombian girls. I also noticed that some of the lighter skinned Colombian girls modify their bodies and still do not have as good bodies. These black colombian girls seem like a much under-appreciated gem in the mongering world (maybe I'm wrong).

Are there any specific casas or escort websites that have a lot of black girls. Or any clubs in general? Is a normal non-pro situation (or modest help with expenses) possible for someone with limited Spanish? Are there any racial issues in terms of black colombians and white gringos?(Is it frowned upon by the culture? Despite the fact the cam sites are saturated with black Colombians, I am having trouble finding escort sites with any. Is anal difficult to get in Colombia compared to Brazil?(I. E. Something not usually offered as part of the total price?

ThanksThe issue of Cali black women seems to come up from time to time. Having been to Cali a number of times, it doesn't appear that the black population in Cali is any different than Medellin or Bogota on a percentage basis compared to the Latina or white population. Yes there are black areas of the town, but on an overall population count its no different. The venue that always has a certain number of black women is bar San Sonero on Carrera 8. The majority of the chicas are latina though. It seems that the black women mostly sit in the back room; check back there.

But you've got to speak some Spanish, no English spoken there. And no you won't be frowned upon for dating black chicas.

[Cartola28]

That would probably depend on what you were "meeting" them for. A serious relationship? A booty call? P4P? From my travels throughout Colombia, Cartagena appeared to me to have the highest ratio of Black people.

It appears you are trying to straddle the fence. Either you want a hooker or you want a woman who is not a hooker. Why would you be open to giving money to women who are not hookers, therefore, by definition, turning them into hookers? My first time in Colombia was to see a girl who was a lawyer. I did not speak Spanish and she did not speak English. I spoke Portuguese though so I was able to make out a lot of the Spanish. I have since learned Spanish and it is no problem for me to get non-pros. But thinking you are just going to pop up in a country where you do not speak the language and normal women are going to screw your brains out: that country does not exist. It's best to get on a dating site before you go and start fostering relationships..I appreciate the feedback. Yes, I know I can not just show up and have a ready to go girlfriend, hehe. I guess I am sort of trying to straddle the fence though. I suppose I could hit up latinamericancupid and try to develop something first. Although the selection of the type of women I'm interested is lacking. It's a shame about Colombians not being as liberal as Brazilians regarding anal. I guess that'll require some normal gaming. I dated a mixed race Brazilian girl in the states (who worked as a stripper). I'm familiar with the "hustle" of working girls. But do Colombian women tend to be as astronomically bat shit crazy jealous as Brazilian women?(Love Brazilian girls but hate that jealousy) I used to have a decent working knowledge of Spanish (from high school), which seemed to of disappeared as soon as I tried to learn Portuguese. But still, Women in South America are a different animal than South American girls in the States, I imagine. I was seriously considering Brazil but Colombia seems like a cheaper option right now.

Bayboy,
The issue of Cali black women seems to come up from time to time. Having been to Cali a number of times, it doesn't appear that the black population in Cali is any different than Medellin or Bogota on a percentage basis compared to the Latina or white population. Yes there are black areas of the town, but on an overall population count its no different. The venue that always has a certain number of black women is bar San Sonero on Carrera 8. The majority of the chicas are latina though. It seems that the black women mostly sit in the back room; check back there.Are you aware of any websites for escorts that have some black girls? In terms of venues, you see no difference between the big cities?

Colombia seems like it requires a little more ground work than Brazil.

[BayBoy]

Cartola,

Yes, Colombia is cheaper than Brazil. From hotels, food, or chicas, everything is cheaper. As far as websites-escorts go, its not my thing, can't help you. The venues I've been to, casas and bars are what I've mentioned, a certain minority representation of black chicas. I do know a SW area on Carrera 7 where the majority of the women are black, but its not too safe around there, and again no English spoken. Yes the chicas are somewhat jealous, but not insanely.

[World Travel 69]

You will find most Black chicas near the Caribbean cities, such as Cartagena.

[Combo]

The issue of Cali black women seems to come up from time to time. Having been to Cali a number of times, it doesn't appear that the black population in Cali is any different than Medellin or Bogota on a percentage basis compared to the Latina or white population. Yes there are black areas of the town, but on an overall population count its no different. The venue that always has a certain number of black women is bar San Sonero on Carrera 8. THE MAJORITY OF THE CHICAS ARE LATINA THOUGH. It seems that the black women mostly sit in the back room; check back there.

But you've got to speak some Spanish, no English spoken there. And no you won't be frowned upon for dating black chicas.All Colombianas are "Latina" whether they be white, black, or anywhere in between. And Cali has a much more substantial African descent population than does Medellin. That doesn't necessarily mean you'll find them in the typical Gringo haunts.

The coastal areas (both Pacific and Atlantic) of Colombia have the highest percentages of African descent people. The Pacific coast, in particular, has a very large African descent population, but most tourists will have little desire to travel to Buenaventura or Choco.

FWIW, in a dozen trips to Colombian, I've never gotten anal. When I used to go to Brasil, it was a given. Don't expect to duplicate your Rio/Brasil experience elsewhere, and you'll likely be happy.

[Ricker]

...But do Colombian women tend to be as astronomically bat shit crazy jealous as Brazilian women?(Love Brazilian girls but hate that jealousy) I used to have a decent working knowledge of Spanish (from high school), which seemed to of disappeared as soon as I tried to learn Portuguese. But still, Women in South America are a different animal than South American girls in the States, I imagine. I was seriously considering Brazil but Colombia seems like a cheaper option right now.

Just thinking of the jealousy makes me cringe and laugh too LOL.

All latin women are generally very jealous.

As a matter fact, the Colombianias in my experience are some of the most beautiful women on the planet, but also the most drama filled batty, crazy and jealous.

I spend lots of time in both countries and you can't go wrong with either Colombia or Brazil, though like guys have said, Colombia is cheaper in general.

Also like guys have already said, the more language skill, the exponentially better the experience.

Guys that don't speak the lingo say it's no big deal, however, that's because they just don't know.

Have fun!!