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I will be there for the first time. Question, when did this site come back up? I had changed email and was not aware. I think this is the best site for exchanging info around.
Thanks
Screwed Up
05-23-05, 17:15
i went to swinger club spartacus past saturday. every saturday from 10pm-3am only couples get in.
carrera 23a #8a-17, 5570764. a 3k-5k cab drive from av.6. 60k entrance fee per couple.
big titted amigos.com girl was with me. i explained to her what a swinger club was saying that most likely couples would be having sex in front of us and we could do the same and maybe more...
see didn´t really wanted to go and she said no way that we would have sex in front of the others. but at least she wasn´t totally blown off by the idea.
we arrived around 10pm. you can bring in your own drinks and we bought 2 small bottles of rum and a bottle of coke from the night shop on the same block.
actually we gave the money to the guy at the front desk. he gave it to a kid at the door who went to get it for us while we got inside.
behind the front desk there is a small place with lockers. there is a door on the left which leads to what looks like a regular disco.
another door behind that to the far left which leads to a room with porn playing on a big screen tv and 4 or 5 2m by 1m spaces with massage tables in it.
in the disco area there is a jacuzzi on the left and further on the left is the sauna. there were about 4 couples in the disco area.
we sat down and drank a bit when some more couples started coming in. in the end there were a total of 8-9 couples. my girl was the only black girl and i could see quite some men were interested in her.
the strip-tease show started around 11.30pm. a little skinny white girl with long black hair and small tits.
show was ok. then a muscular black guy came in started dancing and stripping too.
the girl would go grind her pussy on the laps of the men and the male stripper would do the same to the women.
then there was a pause. a little later they came back when the dj started playing reggeaton.
now the strippers got people to dance with them one by one, getting them out out of their blouses and shirts.
most of the time the dance was pretty normal, regular. when the girl came for me i decided to spice it up a little.
while dancing i grabbed and groped like everybody else then i turned her around, bend her over and danced and grinded against her while slapping her ass.
she got into it even more, because she turned around and made me lie down on the dance floor. now she was jumping up and down on me as if she was riding my dick.
we ended dancing, laying in 69 position. no fucking or sucking though.
after that during the next pause i was horny and wanted my girl to suck me off. so we went to the locker room. there are 3 mirrors there.
i could tell she was kinda drunk and horny because she enjoyed looking at herself and me through the mirrors with that naughty "i´m a bad little girl"-look.
after 5 min. we went back to the disco room and the live sex show began.
the little stripper did a great job sucking off the black dude. and they fucked in all kind of positions for about 10-15 min.. it was ok. no cumshot nor facial though.
after that i danced some with my girl. only 4 couples danced frequently and the only 2 stunners in the place never danced. they also left early and most of the girls in the place were average.
i noticed my girl was enjoying the whole thing, dancing wild, drinking straight from the bottle.
anyway most guys in the place were still shirtless thanks to the stripper. some girls walked around in their bra and my girl pulled down her dress too.
i wanted to fuck and we went to one of the massage tables. i used my own condoms. a good session followed with her being horny as fuck and me trying to squeeze the shit out of her juicy titties while ramming her.
she would go back and forth from "damelo suavecito, si suavecito, papi" to "deme, demeee, mas duro, papi, durooooooo".
after that we chilled down with our rum bottle in front of the tv playing porn. she went to the bathroom and a guy came over to chit chat.
the same guy who used the microphone to anounce the stripping and show.
my girl came back and the guy told me it was time for the couples to get out of their clothes and into the sauna.
good idea and next thing we walking in our underwear through the disco area. but i stop when i see the jacuzzi and decide to cool off there.
because i sweated quite enough already during the fucking in the massage area.
the other couples aren´t there yet and we´re both butt naked.
things are getting heated up and as i left my clothes with my condoms in the locker i go to the reception to get two condoms.
these were quite small though. the smallest condoms i´ve ever gotten in colombia. the tension on my dick was too big.
that combined with rum (rum always fucks up my system) and the fact that i drank 2 litre of juice before going to the club (so i had to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)) didn´t really help me.
my dick would get hard, limp, hard, limp,...
my girl sucked me, tit fucked me and microphone guy showed up and started touching her while she did so.
so although she did not want to have sex in front of the others we ended up being the first couple doing exactly that.
what some alcohol and sexual excitement can get a girl to do, huh?
microphone guy´s chick and some other couple also get in the jacuzzi. and while i´m fucking microphone guy´s chick rubs my ass and dick.
at first my girl wouldn´t let the other couples touch her. she moved away when they touched her.
i tell her let´s take a break and watch the others. micro guy persists and before you know it everybody is grabbing and groping her ass and titties, finger fucking her.
i take a break and watch the others get busy. lots of sucking going but my girl didn´t want to suck anyone off. instead she jumped on the other girl, masturbating and kissing her.
micro chick came to sit on top of me reversely while she sucked off her man. i was in only a second and my girl saw me and got jealous and led me to the other girl whose titties i started to lick.
i got back to micro chick who now started to suck me off while her man masturbated my chick.
again she wanted to sit on me. my girl got pissed saying, you can touch, lick, suck but don´t penetrate anyone. i don´t want that.
it was all cool with me as the other 2 women were ok, but i liked my chick better. on top of that the tiny condom was killing me.
she wanted to go in the sauna. we go and when i´m in, i tell her wait here i´m off to the bathroom.
i figured a good [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) was all i needed to get in better shape. after all i wanted to try once more to get her into fucking in the orgy.
she said papi don´t go to the bathroom, [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) right here and before i know it i see [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) gushing out of her pussy while she´s standing right in front of me talking.
in the middle of the sauna, on her sandals, [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) all over the place. i mean this wasn´t just peeing, this was if someone emptied a bucket of water right there.
i looked down and it took me a second to realize what she was doing. i´ll never forget that image. kinky but ok, a new experience and a another crazy story i can tell my buddies.
i still had to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) and saw there was a door to a shower in the sauna and i figured that wasn´t too bad. so i went in there and tried to concentrate because i was still a little aroused.
she followed me and started touching me and kissing my chest. i was like baby please don´t exite me i want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).
she got away from me with about 1 metre. i aimed for the drainage for the shower and did my thing.
she saw me pissing for a second and came over again. took my dick out of my hand and aimed it at her belly, stomach and pussy.
i was peeing all over her. i was like holy fuck, what are you doing. she was horny as hell.
my dick got hard again and i stopped. i smiled, laughed and said girl, please, give me a second. i managed to finish up and we took a shower there together.
after this she wanted to go home. we went to eat something on the av. 6ta and after that i had a great session at my app.
after the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and using my own condoms i was as good as new. i even managed to get my dick in her ass a little. she was still reluctant though, although i used lube.
i was tired of struggling and her moaning it hurts, it hurts. so i just went for the facial and we slept.
i had hoped there would be hotter women at the club and more people, bigger orgies. but still a good experience.
especially the [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) stuff still makes me laugh.
Screwed Up
05-23-05, 17:28
You already know that wandering around drunk in Cali (or anywhere in Colombia really) is not really wise, but neither is walking around in residential areas you don't know well (especially carrying a camera or other valuables). Taxis are CHEAP! Have the driver WAIT outside the house. You are lucky you only lost your camera. Be careful out there.
Your punishment for such folly is that you must now post a picture of the large, REAL, hooters (while obscurring the chicas face). Houston, we have a problem: you LOST THE MEMORY CARD! So you must let Freeze take a couple new pictures of her cleavage (with you so it looks kosher then edit you out!)
Yeah, you're absolutely right. Oh well, next time.
I moved most of my pics over to my laptop so I have 3 pics of her titties left. However I wish I'd taken some more from all angles.
I tried to upload the pics, which didn't work. So I put them on my page instead. http://www.ivosfotos.com/titties/
Swing clubs can be great fun, and lots of girls are really curious but have to feign shock and horror at participating. But as you note, after some liquor and watching others get busy lots of them will get in the mood.
You story about the chica pissibng in front of you reminds me of the pro who hooked onto to me (truly for "free")in Trujillo, Peru. She went in the bathroom to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and I asked her if she was going to shut the door. She said "why, does it bother yu?" I had to think about it for a minute, but I said no it doesn't bother me. But culturally we don't expect that as we Americans are so coquetish. Europeans and Latins are much less so.
Nice hooters on the chica indeed but the jealousy thing is a downer. Well done man.
Wolfy Baby
05-24-05, 14:48
I have yet to meet Latin girl who wasn't into the whole "pissing with the door open" bit. My old Dominican girlfriend would sometimes actually make me accompany her to the bathroom as she took a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). I asked her why, and she said she just felt more comfortable that way. About the door being open, one related that her brothers would always yell at her about that when she was young, but that she didn't want to miss a thing while she was in the bathroom! (I don't think this applys for #2, though, lol)
Want To Play
05-24-05, 19:48
Ave 11 north 7n- 201. Apartment Elaleph. If Jackson allow heres photos of place click photosyahoo.com/pheiguren.. the owner name is Pete. 3 weeks in pussy heaven soon.
Gary
I sent a person over to check on this apartment and they said that it is not a valid address. I would appreciate knowing how to find this apt as I will be in Cali for 3 weeks. Thanks
Screwed Up
05-25-05, 00:45
well, peeing with the door open doesn´t really bother me at all. and indeed now that i think of it a lot of latina´s leave the door open while they go to the bathroom. another one once squatted in the ocean at the beach and peed right there while people were walking around all over (you´ve been warned).
but there is a big difference with peeing in the middle of the sauna and taking my dick out of my hand and pointing it at herself. hahahahahahaahah
Hi Guys :
I am debating where I should go from these 2 cities.
I dont speak spanish and I want easy access of beautiful fair skinned women in good clean atmosphere. I dont want to waste my time to chase women since I will be in for only 4 days.
Guys please help me on this one.
Tony.
Tony, you'd be better off in Cartagena. Cali has a lot of casas, mostly cheap ones, but you have to look long and hard to find a good performer and decent looking.
LDV in Cartagena has nice lookers nightly and it's still very affordable.
Cali has a lot to offer but you need to stay longer for it to pay off, not to mention speak some Spanish.
Lost In Paradise
05-26-05, 13:31
Hello fellow mongers,
Just returned from 3 marvelous weeks in Colombia. My trip started in Cali at Petes apartment 35 bucks anite. Just 1 problem w/ Petes apartment. (No view) as his apartment is on the first floor. If your a late nite person this apartment might not be your partay. The whole week there the other tenants are early to bed. You definetly have to keep the noise down as no 1 gets up before 10 am. Those heading to Cali, I met this local english speaking guy Darron who agree on small price 60, 000 pesos a day plus meals to take me by bus to Pereira then to Medellin. Darron does thing the local way. look for cheap *****houses, cheap meals, travel by bus which are excellent in Colombia. Those heading to Pereira go for it. lots of hookers and nitelife there. TrY staying near the park area. The 6am church bells will be your wake up call. The bus ride from Pereira to Medellin (3 hours) is definetly a must. Those needing DARRON PH # or any info about him don't hesitate to use him.
Gary
Lost In Paradise
05-26-05, 15:33
311-395-5946 or 572-335-6970.
Come on guys help me in deciding which city to chose for fair skinned ladies for 4 days. I speak no spanish.
Antifreeze
05-26-05, 17:23
I second Cachoro. If you're going for a 3 day trip and do not speak spanish, go to Cartagena, you'll have less of a bad time.
Have fun.
Freeze
TONY USA ... go to Cartagena already!
4 days ... no espanol ... it's perfect.
... if ya like the fair skin, go to LDV and find yourself a Paisita de Medellin ... obviously the local Costenas are of the dark skin type.
Enjoy!
Thanks guys for your recommendations.
The problem for me going to CTG is about 14 hrs of flight with change of planes in Atlanta and Bogota. Feels too much of a hassel.
Where as Continental is starting there flight from Houston to Cali in early July and than it will be only like 8-9 hrs flight for me.
Which airline is good for going to CTG from North West.
I suggest you look at Continental Houston to Panama and Copa Panama to Cartagena. They have good connection going down in Panama. This does not show up on round trip info requests and may require night in Panama on way back which would be good opportunity to check out that spot.
Young & Restless
05-28-05, 16:11
Hey guys,
I’ve been reading your suggestions to Tony USA and see that you are steering him towards Cartagena. I’ve always heard that Cartagena is more user-friendly and there is a good selection of women from all over Colombia, but most of the girls there are very dark-skinned. It doesn’t sound like that will be an issue for Tony USA since he can find light-skinned girls at LDV.
You guys are definitely the professionals when it comes to Colombia and Tony USA is better off following your advice. I was sort of hoping that you would recommend Cali to him though. Tony USA just made a trip to Peru and wrote a very non-biased report on Lima and I think the “tell-all” reports like that one are very useful to anyone that may be debating on a trip to a certain place.
I have a question though… you say that a 4-day trip really would not be worth his time in Cali. Is that mainly because he does not speak Spanish? I can speak Spanish and I have thought about taking a brief trip to Cali also, but would a 4-day trip even be worth bothering with? I thought that Cali had good casas to go to for p4p action like Flores Frescas and some other ones in town.
Young and Restless
Originally, my first16 trips were to Cali. Other than getting laid at Flora Frescas and trying to meet girls at the agencies, there is not too much to do.
Cartagena has a beach and wonderful ocean view. More tourists and some English. Overall there is alot more to do there. HIstoric city to visit, launch trips to outer islands.
Cali is ok, but I have outgrown it.
Girls are darker skinned in Cali, there is a variety in Cartagena.
Good luck. Maybe others have different opinions, that is ok. Its like flavors of ice cream. Some have favorite cities.
My Respected Mongers:
Theeeeeeee only thing I am intrested is THE Pusssy. I dont care about old or new city. And I prefer fair skinned PUUUUUUSY which has to be readily available in good clean atmosphre where kitchen pans are not used afterwards for washing your dick like In Lima's Trocadero and Las Cucardes.
Young & Restless
05-29-05, 14:04
Hi Tony USA,
Based on everyone’s feedback, it looks like Cartagena is just the place for you. When are you going? I think you made a really good choice with Colombia. It’s been on my “to-do list” for a very long time now, along with Venezuela. Be sure and let us know which city you pick.
Thanks Ngp477,
Usually on my first trip to any new place, I like to find out some general details about the city and sometimes even do some tourist things while I’m there, if they sound like fun. Make no mistake though; it all takes a backseat when compared to the chicas. Thanks again.
Y & R
Lost In Paradise
05-29-05, 15:45
Skip Cartagena for pussy. Cali is your best place for lots of cheap *****houses. There everywere in Cali. My favorite is along the Rio Cali. If you go to Cali , hook up / my friend Dayron who lives there...ph # 311 395 5946, By the way he speaks excellent english.
Gary
Hi Every body :
I was looking at phote gallery and girls are not bad at all in Cali.
Personally I dont like long flights and lay overs. I think I might go to Cali on my first trip . CTG will be 2nd just because of flight issue. If Continental would have a flight from Houston to CTG than I must have gone to CTG first because of all the recomendations.
Hey Tony USA ...
Dude go where ya want ... but the first timer to Colombia ... no habla espanol ... Cartagena can't be beat.
I think your original question should have been ...
"Which city in Colombia is easiest to get to from my hometown?"
PS ... you can fly from Cali / Medellin / Bogota directly to Cartagena.
Good luck amigo!
Wolfy Baby
05-29-05, 22:35
Don't forget that some of the hottest light skinned girls travel to the coast, away from the prying eyes of their family to ply their trade. Not only is there more money in it for them, but many hope to snag the heart of a foreigner, thereby giving superior service if you play them right.
June 27th to July 5th or maybe longer. Any gringos want to show me around or get a drink? I'm paying. My first trip. It would be good to have someone I can trust. I'm 38 by the way. Sure to get plenty of attention I think. Blue eyes and hair ect.
Thanks
Why is not there an option to send you a private message? Do you have email?
Need to ask you about your guide.
Lost In Paradise
05-30-05, 17:33
Hello fellow *****house mongers,
Those who never been to Cali, or who were to chicken shit to go, this guy name Dayron did everything to make my trip to Cali the best vacation. I speak limited spanish, (hola, cerveza, bano ). Dayron handle all my dealings w/ taxias, buses, dealing w/ beggars, hookers. Just having a Dayron as a wing man to keep my butt safe there made my vacation the best.
Those who are going to Cali give him a call to show you around the best damm *****houses.Dayron did everything to keep my expensive low. so there be a little tip for him. Your looking for best casas for cheap, ask Dayron. (My last posting on Dayron ph# ) 311 3955946. I got dibs on him in late July for 3 weeks.
Gary
Can you give me your email please. Or number.
Screwed Up
05-31-05, 20:25
Hi Grey Beard :
What is Copa's web site address.
????
How lazy do you want to be? Hahahaha.
Try this: http://www.google.com and type in "copa airlines".
Hi Screwed Up:
I like your foto's very much.
Can hardly wait to see some more on your this Cali trip.
Enjoy.
Tony.
Lost In Paradise
06-01-05, 15:51
Can you give me your email please. Or number.Doesnt respond to my letter. Can you write what info I can help you with about Daryron. Be glad to help you. Please give your ph# I call you.
Gary
Let other newbies read it DIRECTLY from you: that almost nobody in Cali speaks ANY English (except at Hotel Intercontiental and the Marriage Agencies) including at the airport when you try to negotiate a price with a taxi and explain where your hotel is located. Also, while guerillas are not a problem IN THE CITY, there is is almost NOTHING to do in town besides chasing chicas and once you leave town you enter FARC country. While the guerillas stay outside the city, the criminals and drug gangs do NOT!
This is not to say that you cannot have a good time in Cali in reasonable security, but good judgment (and luck!) is essential. Cali is NOT Nuevo Laredo or anything.
I think you will come to regret not choosing Cartagena, despite having to take a connecting flight (Aerorepublica has a nonstop between Cali & Cartagena 4 days per week), but only time will tell. You CAN help educate other newbies as to your experience. Good luck (you'll need it!)
Thanks Surfer for suggestion.
I will for sure put a non biased report after my return.
As far as English goes hardly any of the Chica's from CR,Peru and Thailand spoke any English. But I could always negotiate the deal some how.
As I have said in earlier posts, money is the language of puta's no matter where you are.
I am also thinking about hiring an English speaking guide for couple of hours a day.
I am only traveling for the purpose of hobby and nothing else. CTG is on my top list as soon as any airline start flying from west coast to CTG.
Thanks again.
Surfer : I hope you are not trying to scare me and other first timers to Cali by your comments in this post.
Let other newbies read it DIRECTLY from you: that almost nobody in Cali speaks ANY English (except at Hotel Intercontiental and the Marriage Agencies) including at the airport when you try to negotiate a price with a taxi and explain where your hotel is located. Also, while guerillas are not a problem IN THE CITY, there is is almost NOTHING to do in town besides chasing chicas and once you leave town you enter FARC country. While the guerillas stay outside the city, the criminals and drug gangs do NOT!
This is not to say that you cannot have a good time in Cali in reasonable security, but good judgment (and luck!) is essential. Cali is NOT Nuevo Laredo or anything.
I think you will come to regret not choosing Cartagena, despite having to take a connecting flight (Aerorepublica has a nonstop between Cali & Cartagena 4 days per week), but only time will tell. You CAN help educate other newbies as to your experience. Good luck (you'll need it!)
Hello LIP : How much Dayron charge for his services?
Hello fellow *****house mongers,
Those who never been to Cali, or who were to chicken shit to go, this guy name Dayron did everything to make my trip to Cali the best vacation. I speak limited spanish, (hola, cerveza, bano ). Dayron handle all my dealings w/ taxias, buses, dealing w/ beggars, hookers. Just having a Dayron as a wing man to keep my butt safe there made my vacation the best.
Those who are going to Cali give him a call to show you around the best damm *****houses.Dayron did everything to keep my expensive low. so there be a little tip for him. Your looking for best casas for cheap, ask Dayron. (My last posting on Dayron ph# ) 311 3955946. I got dibs on him in late July for 3 weeks.
Gary
Lost In Paradise
06-01-05, 23:58
Hello all,
Dayron charge me all day 60,000 pesos plus meals.
Well worth it.
Young & Restless
06-02-05, 00:37
Let other newbies read it DIRECTLY from you: that almost nobody in Cali speaks ANY English (except at Hotel Intercontiental and the Marriage Agencies) including at the airport when you try to negotiate a price with a taxi and explain where your hotel is located. Also, while guerillas are not a problem IN THE CITY, there is is almost NOTHING to do in town besides chasing chicas and once you leave town you enter FARC country. While the guerillas stay outside the city, the criminals and drug gangs do NOT!
This is not to say that you cannot have a good time in Cali in reasonable security, but good judgment (and luck!) is essential. Cali is NOT Nuevo Laredo or anything.
I think you will come to regret not choosing Cartagena, despite having to take a connecting flight (Aerorepublica has a nonstop between Cali & Cartagena 4 days per week), but only time will tell. You CAN help educate other newbies as to your experience. Good luck (you'll need it!)
Hi Surfer,
You mentioned something that I've been a little curious about. Seems like I read somewhere that you drive through quite a bit of the countryside and see lots of mountains on the ride to & from the Cali airport. If that's the case, are there many incidents of guerillas/FARC stopping people going to or coming from the airport?
Also, if you were interviewed by Customs upon returning to the US, what would you tell them was the purpose of your trip? That question has been easy for me coming back from the places like Rio and BsAs, but Cali?? Sounds like that one would require some creative thought. How have your experiences been?
Thanks,
Y & R
Are you getting some kind of kickback? You have mentioned him 4 times now? And I asked you for your email to discuss. No reply. Odd.
Hello all,
Dayron charge me all day 60,000 pesos plus meals.
Well worth it.
Just saw your response. I am on edge as I am going soon. Haha. Antsy. Your help will be appreciated.
(502) 345-9974. Call anytime. Soon please! Sorry again. I missed your post.
Doesnt respond to my letter. Can you write what info I can help you with about Daryron. Be glad to help you. Please give your ph# I call you.
Gary
Cali is NOT Nuevo Laredo or anything. 31 Americans kidnapped in Nuevo Laredo in less than a year. 17 still unaccounted for.
Colombia gets all the bad press, but Mexico is starting to catch up, and in my opinion is far more dangerous for Americans than Colombia is.
My source:
http://www.amw.com/missing_persons/case.cfm?id=30673
Just say you think Colombia is a nice place to go on vacation cause you like the people, it's affordable, and you enjoy learning new things like Spanish language or salsa dancing.
Hey Dudes,
The city of Cali rest near some hills, but the airport is located in the valley about 25 minutes from the city. I've been to Cali a couple of times, but never got the impression from the locals that it's a dangerous road. However, I have heard it's dangerous in the hills above Cali.
BTW, what's up with that? It seems whenever I travel to cities in South America the areas in the hills above a given city (flavelas in Rio/Comas in Lima) are always the most dangerous. Is this where all the nonconformists and revolutionists of S.A. reside? I guess a view of the city doesn't put food on the table.
Customs agents usually know what's up when they see a single dude returning from a country like Colombia. They know your not there on a mission from greenpeace. I straight up tell I went there to bang puss, and it usually generates a chuckle. Obviously, this approach works best with the male agents.
Tony USA
I have a good friend who lives in Cali. He specializes in hooking up Americans/Europeans with amateurs/semi's/pro's. He's lived in the city most all his life. He has a shitload of contacts and knows where to and where not to go when in Cali! PM me if you want to get in touch with him. Not sure what he charges. He speaks perfect English. What I especially like about this guy is he doesn't drink. So I can go ahead and get ripped and know he's got my back.
I also have a Calena amiga whose father is a taxi driver. I'm sure she could arrange a pick up to and from the airport. Keep in mind, she's not a pro and he's oblivious to the mongering scene.
Guys, last thing. The TLCWorldwide.com (one of the more successful marriage agencies on the net) is having their annual party in Cali in a couple of weeks at the Hotel InterContinental. Guys, this is a golden opportunity to pick up on some extremely hot amateurs. Just go and hangout in the lobby of the hotel or the bar while this party is happening.
You won't be able to enter the room (it's a $1,000us) where the actual party is happening, but there will be a shitload of chicas milling around the hotel. I went to this party several years ago and there was over 900 calenas and only 90 dudes. I went the following year mill around and avoid the $1,000us fee. First night, I nailed a girl who remembered me from the previous year. Give it a shot if you happen to be in town at the time of the party.
Late,
Judd
I will tell them I went for some nice pussy! What is the difference? And that American women make me physically sick. And that they may just as well be men Now what are they going to say to me? Is it illegal to go there? NO, I don't think so, Who cares what the answer is.
Young & Restless
06-04-05, 09:39
I will tell them I went for some nice pussy! What is the difference? And that American women make me physically sick. And that they may just as well be men Now what are they going to say to me? Is it illegal to go there? NO, I don't think so, Who cares what the answer is.
Thanks for enlightening me. You’re a gentleman and a scholar.
Young & Restless
06-04-05, 10:11
Just say you think Colombia is a nice place to go on vacation cause you like the people, it's affordable, and you enjoy learning new things like Spanish language or salsa dancing.
Hi Cachorro,
Thanks for your response, amigo. If that was a rattle snake it would have bit me. I laughed to the top of my lungs when I read your post! I think what you mentioned in your post would be a perfect response. Thanks again for the good advice.
Judd,
I have no doubt that you say that to them, amigo!! Do you also offer to let them see your videos just to eliminate any doubt? LOL!! Thanks and keep up the good work señor!
Y & R
That's funny Y&R!!! Thanks for the laugh! What's the camcorder for, officer? Well you know, just some nature video of the local scenery to remember my trip.
OK, Ole wise one.
Thanks for enlightening me. You’re a gentleman and a scholar.
And this is the *************.Info board, not the complete works of William Shakespheare.
Thanks for enlightening me. You’re a gentleman and a scholar.
Young & Restless
06-05-05, 20:16
And this is the *************.Info board, not the complete works of William Shakespheare.
Relax man… I was just busting your balls a little bit. – Peace
Hey Judd,
I'm glad you knew I was joking. Like I’ve told you before your hidden videos are brilliant! Keep up the good work!
What do you guys think of calivip.com and colombiansweethearts.com
Lost In Paradise
06-06-05, 12:50
Save your money. Have my friend Dayron in Cali put ad in paper for gringo looking for companion and romance. The phone will be ringing off the hook.
Tony, hows your spanish? Leave your email. on it. Dayron speaks english so he can handle your translating.
Gary
Here's some tips from my Cali visit.
There are lots of casas, many cheap ones for around 20k to 40k. One cluster is on Avenida 2 and 2 bis. Doctor Amor was one that I tried, lots of worn out looking puta types. But just as I was walking out, one cutie was walking in, so I sessioned with her. 35k for 1 hour, excellent session.
I looked at lots of other casas but never managed to do as well. It is really hard in these places to find clean, pretty girls with a good attitude.
Upscale places are Flores Frescas and El Escocés. FF has nice girls but a little bit expensive. Escocés had about 12 girls but too dark to see very well.
For motels, the Paraiso Romano is hard to beat. Get the presidential suite, it's a big pad with jacuzzi, private outdoor courtyard with steam room, plus hi-fi, TV, cool mirror on the ceiling above the bed. 35K for 3 hours, included in this price is a rubber, plus a couple of drinks in the bar fridge. Outstanding value. This place is about 20 minutes away from the centre of town.
There are some chic restaurants along Avenue 8N around calle 14 and up.
Cali zoo is a great way to spend a day, especially with a nice girl.
Check out the posts in this thread by ******* for some ideas of non-pro night spots. I tried one or two and they were really worth it.
For shopping malls, Chipe Chape is very close to the centre, or you can try Unicentro which is right near the university.
Lost In Paradise
06-06-05, 15:32
Hello all,
Jag inform me when he call Dayron you have to dial o11 then 57 311 395 5946.., Dayron lively hood in Cali is selling nicknacks on buses and helping fellow mongers to cathouses. I'm trying so much helping him w/ people going to Cali, (no commision for me as Jag stated). It just Dayron was the best guide in all my travels tru out the world. Please if in Cali give him a buzz.
Thanks,
Gary
Lust For Ladies
06-07-05, 04:48
Hi guys,
I will be in Cali the week of June 20th (working by day and playing by nite) and then Valencia Venezuela June 27-30th. I would appreciate any help you fellow mongers can provide for locating the hidden talents of these two cities. I have been to Cali several times before an have visited Flores Frescas, and some of the casas. However I found that in addition to the high price the talent really was not exceptional (with one exception being a chica that I took out of FF one nite about 1 yr ago. This girl was incredible in the sack and open to anything that I desired.) Anyone got any advice on where to look for the best p4p action in Cali. I am fluent in spanish however will not have much time to work the field so the non-pro scene (no matter how good it is) really is not an option. I have read about the exploits of Master Monger and others in this city, but quite frankly I have found it to be somewhat lacking when compared to Bogota, and Cartagena. If anyone can point me in the right direction I would appreicate it.
Also, if anyone has any good information on Valencia please share it as well...it has been approx 12 months since I was there and quite frankly it was somewhat poor as far as p4p action. I found Caracas about the same with the exception of Angelus and one other case whose name escapes me. Unfortunately I found angelus to be a bit pricy and thus not a good option. Also the web chicas (sexycaracas.com) are VERY pricy as they are in Cali. Not really an option on my budet.
Any help anyone can provide on these two locations is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Lusty
Hello all,
Jag inform me when he call Dayron you have to dial o11 then 57 311 395 5946.., Dayron lively hood in Cali is selling nicknacks on buses and helping fellow mongers to cathouses. I'm trying so much helping him w/ people going to Cali, (no commision for me as Jag stated). It just Dayron was the best guide in all my travels tru out the world. Please if in Cali give him a buzz.
Thanks,
GaryThanks for the correction.
I thought Cali had some of the best looking women in the world?
Lost In Paradise
06-08-05, 15:04
My suggestion for small tip, buy a 20 $ walkman w/ fm radio at walmart for good service render. Hanging w/ Dayron in Cali you pay local prices not gringo prices. Hell, do everything to keep your expenses low, so theres a small tip or gift.
LIP,
Thanks for the tip.
Continental will start flying to Cali from Houston on July 15 and I am planing around that time.
Lost In Paradise
06-14-05, 20:07
Dayron call me today saying his girlfriend or ex wife lives there? She has a small stereo wants deliver to him. I can get you her ph # she can deliver to your house.
Gary
Dayron call me today saying his girlfriend or ex wife lives there? She has a small stereo wants deliver to him. I can get you her ph # she can deliver to your house.
Gary No Gary I dont live in Houston and also I don't like to carry things for people I dont know.
Digital Curry
06-17-05, 22:04
Who here has experience in both cities?
I'm planning a trip August 6-26. Where to go.
Feel free to comment on other cities and countries
Priorities in order.
1 Non prostitutes treat you like you are a movie star.
2 Women are sexy and beautiful
3 Sex for cheap or free.
2 Warm weather, not too much rain
3 Good Vegetables (I'm vegetarian)
4 Nice down to earth people, the type that would invite you for coffee
5 Cool Nature and natural beauty and archetecture
Who here has experience in both cities?
I'm planning a trip August 6-26. Where to go.
Feel free to comment on other cities and countries
Priorities in order.
1 Non prostitutes treat you like you are a movie star.
2 Women are sexy and beautiful.
3 Sex for cheap or free.
2 Warm weather, not too much rain
3 Good Vegetables (I'm vegetarian)
4 Nice down to earth people, the type that would invite you for coffee
5 Cool Nature and natural beauty and archetectureWomen are not pretty at all in Lima so dont waste your time and money .
Cream on Top
06-19-05, 12:44
What do you guys think of calivip.com and colombiansweethearts.comI think it is rather "desperate" to involve yourself into agencies promoting dates and marriages.
Why pay 50 US $ for a package of 10 - 15 email adresses?
When we have WSG forum and many other ways to find someone over the internet?
Take your time and you will find what you are looking for. Dont let people like dating sites make money on your and/or the girls' back. It is so "degrading".
Who here has experience in both cities?
I'm planning a trip August 6-26. Where to go.
Feel free to comment on other cities and countries
Priorities in order.
1 Non prostitutes treat you like you are a movie star.
Are you a movie star? If you are not why would they? And ifthey did, how would they treat a movie star?
2 Women are sexy and beautiful
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
3 Sex for cheap or free.
Sex may be cheap in some places if you are from USA, Canada or Western Europe. But it is not free (see no. 1 above)
2 Warm weather, not too much rain
Most places in the world have this at some time of the year.
3 Good Vegetables (I'm vegetarian)
4 Nice down to earth people, the type that would invite you for coffee
See no. 1
5 Cool Nature and natural beauty and archetecture
See no. 2, plus many places have these as well.
Digital Curry,
There are some gems to be found in Lima. But IMHO Cali is a far better place to monger. However, I like the food better in Lima. Which is more improtant?
With that much time you may want to consider Thailand. It is a long flight, but well worth it. And the food is the best.
All three place are very inexpensive. You'll have a great time in any of them.
Suerte,
Sky Dog
I like Lima and will go back, Concur, that food in Lima is better, also there's more stuff to do outside of Mongering in lima. The pro scene in Cali is more developed(ie, more casa, massage plc, etc.,) For a small(smaller city vs BOG), Cali has TONS of casa, it seem like one on every corner. Quality/Service in general was OK, but like stalin said, "there's a certain QUALITY to QUANTITY". Just ask ANY taxi drivers they will gladly show you from one casa to the next. If you know decent spanish, you'll have no problems picking no pros.
Problem w/ Cali is finding things to do OUTSIDE of Mongering, especially on the weekdays. If you have a GF then that's not problem, otherwise it's get boring, other than mongering and hitting the casinos.
I will be in Cali July 1-5.
Any body want to get together let me know.
Lost In Paradise
06-29-05, 12:45
Hello my friends,
Those who are heading to Cali for pussy.. My man Dayron in Cali is the is person to show you around . Mark stated in letter . He so happy w/ Dayron sevice that he's everything I mention in previous post is all true. Dayron handle every thingf or you. taxias, meals brothels, buses. You pay local prices on everything there. The money he saves you is extra tip for him. My exper. w/ daryon last trip I left by mistake 150,000 pesos on cafe table. 30 mins latter Dayron returned w/ all my money from cafe.. My advice to you if you used Dayron bring large condoms. I let Daryon ask taxias were the action is. If you get tired of Cali theres lots of cities Dayron can take you not far from Cali were nice girls, not many gringos go. I'm book w/ Dayron on July 14. 8days. Find someone else.
Gary
If he is leading gringo sex tourists to "small cities outside Cali where no gringos go", SOMEBODY in the group better be well armed. What you need is less of a guide and more of a guard (as in bodyguard), ESPECIALLY if you leave the city. Those who speak Spanish can ask the taxi drivers themselves where the chicas are and save on guide fees. But if Dayron does pack heat (like most men in Cali), then having him along for protection MIGHT justify the cost.
Women are not pretty at all in Lima so dont waste your time and money.I second that! Peru chicas cannot compete with Colombian chicas.
Lost In Paradise
06-30-05, 14:40
There are people who never been to Cali who dont speak one word of spanish, who need guidence in Cali, who knows the City, country like daryon, who speaks perfect english. He is well worth 60,000 pesos plus meals to show them fun time arond Cali and other cities.
who don't speak one word of Spanish do not belong in Cali. Do you have a death wish, LIP?
Lost In Paradise
07-01-05, 02:03
Try this then, those who spanish is of few words need some1 who knows his country that can show you around. Myself if i spoke spanish fluently i still want some1 to hook up w/ there. Myself i have no security issues in Cali w/ darryon as my wingman. He"s the best, you can quote me on that as main man in Cali.. Your loss not using Daryon.
Well there's no doubt that if you've never been to Cali, Medellin, or whatever city really ... it's nice to have someone there to show you the ropes of the place.
The less spanish you speak and the less "trave savy" you are, makes that person even more valuable.
Some guys only take trips once a year or less often than that ... why waste time trying to figure things out on your own ... learn from someone ... for both chica info and security info ... where to go / not to go , etc.
Whether this is with Lost in Paradise's guide Dayron or another trusted contact ... that's just a matter of preference.
Suerte ....
June 27th to July 5th or maybe longer. Any gringos want to show me around or get a drink? I'm paying. My first trip. It would be good to have someone I can trust. I'm 38 by the way. Sure to get plenty of attention I think. Blue eyes and hair ect.
ThanksHow was your trip? I am thinking about Columbia for a week. Don't know much about the country or the language. How was your experience? Recommendations? Etc?
M&M
Just curious Surfer. Where do you get your imfo on men carrying guns. I was there 23 days and am certain "most men" do not carry guns. If you saw this, tell me where please. Regarding the murdering of a gringo traveling outside Cali.
Per 1000
Murder rate is 0.63 in Colombia
.04 in the USA
Both under 1 per 1000.
Yes, Colombia is much higher percentage but still low probability. I did travel 4 hours to one of those cities with Dayron. Not one issue at anytime in Colombia. I was very happy with Dayron. It was well worth my money I spent. I will post on this again soon.
Milmonger, depends what you are looking for. Just pros? How much to spend? GIve me some guidelines.It felt like I was there a year..
Antifreeze
07-15-05, 15:31
I lived in Cali for more than 2 years now, and trust me, a whole lot of people have guns here. True, they may need to walk to the car to get it (so that when they are searched it is not found), but I would say that more than half of men my age are armed in a certain way. It's a bit concerning since when you're in rage, if you have a Nuke in your hands, you'll Nuke the other guy. If you only have your fists, then there only so much damage that can be done... Given the fact that a lot of people have guns, when they are enraged, a lot of killings happen.
As far a your other comment goes in regards to the probability of getting murdered, that's not how you should see this. Put it this way, I can tell you to have an attitude, a location, a way that you're dressed in certain places where you'll have 75% chances of getting whacked.
Beware, Cali is not for everyone, the countryside even less.
Antifreeze
07-16-05, 16:12
A friend of mine, that happens to be pretty hot (photo attached to this message) wants to go to the Marc Anthony's concert on July 29th. She, like a lot of other Colombian friends, is full of great qualities but is also dirt poor.
All that to say that if you're in Cali on July 29th, and feel like you could go and relax by listening to a concert at Cali's stadium, private message me and we can see if we can arrange a meeting between you both. She's obviously expect the ticket to be paid by you, in exchange for a genuine good attitude and gratitude in company of Cali's finest (no sex involved, just a random act of generosity seeked).
I've been to the Luis Miguel concert with her about 8 months ago, and I had nothing else but a great time. Right now, I can't do that for her since I am involved with a girl that I like a lot and do not want to make things more complicated.
Antifreeze
Where is the location Antifreeze?
The comment is no thow I see it. It is a fact. That is the murder rate. Period. Look at it anyway you want. Try Detroit late at night alone dressed well. In my opinion way more dangerous. GiIve me the spot in Cali more dangerous.
I lived in Cali for more than 2 years now, and trust me, a whole lot of people have guns here. True, they may need to walk to the car to get it (so that when they are searched it is not found), but I would say that more than half of men my age are armed in a certain way. It's a bit concerning since when you're in rage, if you have a Nuke in your hands, you'll Nuke the other guy. If you only have your fists, then there only so much damage that can be done... Given the fact that a lot of people have guns, when they are enraged, a lot of killings happen.
As far a your other comment goes in regards to the probability of getting murdered, that's not how you should see this. Put it this way, I can tell you to have an attitude, a location, a way that you're dressed in certain places where you'll have 75% chances of getting whacked.
Beware, Cali is not for everyone, the countryside even less.
I know Marc Anthony was the 2 weeks ago. Is he coming back?
Curious why you live in such a dangerous place Anti..
A friend of mine, that happens to be pretty hot (photo attached to this message) wants to go to the Marc Anthony's concert on July 29th. She, like a lot of other Colombian friends, is full of great qualities but is also dirt poor.
All that to say that if you're in Cali on July 29th, and feel like you could go and relax by listening to a concert at Cali's stadium, private message me and we can see if we can arrange a meeting between you both. She's obviously expect the ticket to be paid by you, in exchange for a genuine good attitude and gratitude in company of Cali's finest (no sex involved, just a random act of generosity seeked).
I've been to the Luis Miguel concert with her about 8 months ago, and I had nothing else but a great time. Right now, I can't do that for her since I am involved with a girl that I like a lot and do not want to make things more complicated.
Antifreeze
WhiteLight
07-19-05, 05:59
Hey freeze,
Long time no see.
I won't be in cali for the concert, but I wouldn't mind meeting your friend, would she like me?
I will return in Sept.
Didn't see you on sexta when I was there a week ago, did you move? You were talking about Perada or some such place.
Hope alll is well,
D
Antifreeze
07-19-05, 16:12
I Jags,
I respect all opinions when they are communicated in a respectful manner. You are respectful in the way you express yours, and I truly appreciate that. But, I still disagree. Cali is way more dangerous than any other place in the US. The places you state in Detroit that may be more dangerous, YOU KNOW THEM, that's what makes them less dangerous to you and 95% of all other americans. You can fall into a trap here in a second. If someone shoots you in broad daylight with 20 witnesses, there still won't be any witness to report it to the police (since their police report is actually also their death certificate), and the killer would walk free to create more damage. This is actually the problem #1 in Colombia (inpunity). There's not significantly less dangerous people here in Colombia than in most countries, but they just create more damage before they are eventually stopped.
Freeze
Never in my life had I seen a gruesome site like that (I could have never been a cop, paramedic or cop), a mangled corpse just laying there at the side of the road. My gfirl was quite shook upo and couldn't sleep. Not the kind of thing I found erotic either, unlike certain masters of literaure that found some sensual turn on from morbidity. But I digress. This was not on the Sexta, but it was not in Mojica or Agua Blanca (the most hard core barrios) either.
American cities have dangerous districts, but how many of you guys go to crack row in those places? Jags, I know English is not your primary language and I respect you fopr partricipating in a foreign tongue. That sais, your logic is lacking. You do not SEE the guns because they are tucked in wastebelts and shoulder holsters. That does NOT mean they are not there.
Everybody has their own opinions on just how dangerous it is. I know my friends that live there are both worried and cautios, but they know no other way. As I have said many timesw, each must decide his own risk tolerance for himself. But being aware of what is going on, meaning NOT being drunk while walking around and understanding what people are saying iaround/about you is CRITICAL to minimizing the risk to your personal safety you take every time you leave the hotel in Cali.
Quality at the casas was WAY down, particularly Kaliente, and Frescas prices are now 20 entrada, 130ST onsite, 60 takeout (plus the girls will want at least 150K).
Too short a trip, and LOTS of flying on PACKED aircraft (Summer SUCKS for travel IMHO), but I get Colombia withdrawl symptoms without my monthly (or bimonthly) fix.
Finally, thanks to FREZE for tricking me into meeting his longtime friend and WSGer K-Dog who turned out to be quite a nice guy despite being a Republican. We flew back together and chatted quite a bit (but not about politics-WolfyBaby is still the ONLY rightwinger with whom I can talk politics with without getting hot under the collar).
California to Cali via Boston is not the suggested route, but it IS good for elite status miles (:
Hi,
I'm in Cali right now and let me tell everyone that it is pretty safe. I live in windsor plaza no problems bringing up girls and its close to la sexta. I recomend you to live close to la sexta bc there are all the discos. Donna recomend you going to prostitutes bc you ll have it easier and better with normal girls. donna worry about your looks or age you can have almost what you want. Don't listen to all this people trying to scare you saying that its so dangerous its like in any city if your careless it can happen. I'm from Madrid and people are talking about crime and stuff but as long as your not stupid as some people you see here in Colombia and other places your safe. so come to cali and I'm leaving for Medellin tomorrow. I've heard they have the best girls and I'll report on it. [Report edited by Admin]
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Hey Surfer ... good post ...
I can remember being scared to death twice in the US ... once getting lost in the "bad" part of Chicago ... and the other time in a "bad" area of Miami ... both at night.
But ... nothing campares to seeing a kid ... probably in his early twenties, being executed in Medellin ... right outside my girlfriend's family casa in Medellin a couple years ago.
Last week in Medellin I was invited to another chica's casa for dinner ... her mother showed me fotos of her 2 boys ... who were 17 and 19 years old ... they were both in coffins ... killed seperately, a year apart, in the barrio.
She said that her children are on loan from God for only a short time.
I realize I'm writing about Medellin, however, Colombia is Colombia ...
Watch yourself ... and number one rule ... at least for me ... make as many friends as possible ... NEVER make enemies.
Suerte!
Everytime people bring up safety issue, someone is always saying how COL (Cali) is not as dangerous as (LA, NYC, London, Detriot, etc.). Most of the time it's people that are tourist passing thru(most of us are).
But if you talk with local expat (even some local Col), you get a totally different view. I've talked w/ a gringo expat living in Cali for 5 Yrs now, he tells little precaution he has to constantly do:
1) Have taxi drop him off at a short block from his place, so no one knows exactly where he lives. (we tourist don't have this problem because we stay short term or in hotels)
2) Not telling everyone where he lives, only people that need to know. Again tourist do not have this problem.
3) Never tells chicas that he just met where he lives, he takes them to "love" motel not back to his place. Unless they get into a relationship.
4) NOT [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off local chicas when he breaks up with them because they may have friends or relative that could "do something" to him afterward.
(Ricker mention never make enemies in COL, where life even gringos can be cheap. A Gringo Professor was murder in Cali last month over $2200 USD, the guy has been living in CALI for over 20 years, has wife and kids, respected in the community)
5) He has a car and scooter, asked him why said the Scooter is safer because in a pinch(at traffic) he can zoom away via sidewalk.
6) He owns a distribution business, but doesn't go to every sales call, he lets his COL sales rep do that. Because he doesn't want anyone to know that he is the owner.
For most part Tourist, we only stay in-country for short time, couple week or month at the most. We don't have regular schedule. But to live and work in Cali (COL) is a whole different thing. I would listen to advice of guys like antifreeze or other expat LIVING there regarding safety. Heck even my amigas that live in CALI or COL tell me I have to be careful of who I talk to or trust.
To the good side of CALI (COL). Every expat I've met said it is great. Lots of chicas(non-pro) to bang. As ANtifreeze once said, "I've have 1 wife, 2 kids, 2 horse, and 5 girlfriends! LOL!) or as another expat in Bogota told me,"if you are a foreigner living in COL, you have to beat off the chicas with a stick!". LOL!
WhiteLight
07-20-05, 19:44
I'd like to report what I understand is a fairly new casa in Cali. I liked it enough to return several times. Each time I found a girl I liked and a couple of them were willing to come to my apt. on other occasions.
There are many aspects of this casa that I like. The girls are young and of all different sizes.
This place, above others I've visited, is very very clean, light and airy. It is cheap too.
It's not for homophobic though, it is run by gay guys and the girls like that. Maybe they don't have to "do" the boss, I dunno, but it makes for a "happy" place. I don't mind the gays, where I live, they run the town, I'm accustom to them.
The actually have two casas on the same street separated by another casa. They are located on along the Cali river.
The addresses are:
Ave. 2a,, Norte No. 23n-37 & 23N-43
Tele. 661-6759
Prices are 35k pesos for half hour, 50k for an hour.
I liked Ana, a skinny little thing, looks middle eastern and came to my apt. in the mornings (8 & 9 am) before going to work in this casa. She charged me 80k for a house call.
Enjoy.
I am from Kentucky Surfer. Not sure about the non-English comment. Maybe I had some typos. As you do also.
Everyone dies. It's how you live that counts. Sure it's more dangerous. Decide why our going and if it's worth it.
Obviously you and Anti have made the decision it is worth it because you are there all the time.
I think everyone knows Colombia can be dangerous. Not really a debate here. I posted the actual numbers for murders. I will also be willing to bet gun ownership is higher in the states. Much higher.
I was not happy with the looks of the girls on the sexta however. Dead most nights. Even some weekend nights now. The hot women are going to more upscale clubs there.
Antifreeze
07-21-05, 15:19
here's a quick note in regards to age here.
if you're going to do a girl that is below 18, not only are you walking on thin ice in regards to legality, but you are dead wrong in regards to the morality. if you're going to post on this forum about coming to colombia to date **** girls, then i'd appreciate for the administration of this site to take you out, and i'd better never meet you. i am not saying that grobo did such a thing, but it's fairly close. a child is a child (even though the laws may be different in some countries). let them finish school and find their way towards prostitution if they have to, but do not show them the way for your own sick pathelogical impulses. if you have such feelings, go and get fixed, you'll find plenty of help. the reason that i have a problem with cali is that too many of these gringos come down here now. get a mature woman, not a helpless child.
hi antifreeze,
i couldn't agree more.
thanks,
jackson
Cream on Top
07-21-05, 19:55
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i, m not speaking about dating **** women. i'm speaking about cultural differences. in colombia a girl becomes old when she reaches 20. i know a lot of girls non pro that are dating guys over 30 and its normal here. it might be illega to date them like selling drugs here. but i know a lot of people here who are doing time but are free partying every night. the only thing is that they cannot leave cali. a good looking colombian woman that reaches 25 if she isnt a superbabe wont be as attractive to colombian men. who ever you want to date is upo to anyone. in no moment have i spoken about profesional girls bc there is no need for it. you can date these girls with the parents permission. anyone who goes to colombia and has to go to working girls must have a big problem socializing with people. antifreeze and others i donna know how well you know other countries but you must accept other peoples culture even if it goes against your moral believes. i'm not promoting anything just telling how things really are its up to every individual to do what they want.
i think every guy who has been to colombia and is not a sucker wont bring his moral values here bc if so is the case what the hell are you coming to colombia at the first place. and telling me that a 14 year old girl is like a european or us girl your dead wrong they might be that in age but they are much more mature. and ask around colombian men who they are married to most that i know have wifes no more than 15 in some cases i know a politician here in cali who has a wife that is 16. well have to go now.
Antifreeze
07-22-05, 17:20
Grobo,
Girls below the age of 18 do not exist. You can't look at them, compare them, nothing... They are not on the market for you to even look at. Once again, in your last post, I don't know if you're right (and don't care), since you're talking about something that does not exist (women below 18). They are children, there is no point comparing them to US or European children.
Antifreeze
anyone who goes to colombia and has to go to working girls must have a big problem socializing with people.
how did you know me so well? i am not gay, so i do not want to socialize with men. i do not like beached whales, so i do not socialize with american women...disgusting!
so that is the problem and reason i go to colombia.
btw it is ok to date the young ****d girls, just not to have sex with them.
Antifreeze
07-22-05, 23:24
My friend (the one with the picture in a previous post) is still avaialable to go to the Marc Anthony´s concert. The other person that said would go with her had some other obligations that prevented him to come to Cali that day.
So, anyone decent that will be in Cali on July 29th that wants to be at the concert in good company, PM me.
Freeze
Grobo, i dont know where you got your information but i have not encountered any adult males married to a 15 year old child. My G/F has 4 brothers who are all married. None of them has a wife that is more than 5 years younger than they are. My g/f has a fifteen year old daughter and she is just like American teenagers. She is only in the 9th grade for Christs sake. For what i saw on my trips, it is not a cultural thing for adult men to have relationships with young girls. Shame on you for bringing the topic up on this forum.
I'm sorry to tell you , I've been travelling to Colombia for 8 years now. I speak from experience. In Colombia the man is suppose to have the right to have 7 1/2 women where the 1/2 is the wife. Having young women is the rule. I most also add that older women have younger men in general. I'm not taking any moral standpoint on it, I'm just telling how things are. If you think is awfull or whatever, what can I do about it? I thought that this site was to give information and not to criticise what other people write. I'm not saying that you have to do like Colombians, but I tell you so you know how things work. And if your reference is going to be your GF that has a 15 year old daughter, I apologise, but she is over the hill to know anything about the subject.
Grobo, i lived in Little Havana in Miami for some time. I had my first latina G/F, a Peruivan in 1979. I have traveled all over Central America. In Costa Rica men were being jailed for having sex with young girls. I have not never encounterd a latino with a wife as young as 15 or 16 years old. I know a lot of latino men have wifes and also girlfriends, but they are not 16 years old.One of my g/f sisters caught her husband with another latina and now he is sleeping on his mothers sofa. Remember Lorena Bobbitt.
Before I start I want to make it perfectly clear that I’m firmly against sex with girls under 18. My personal limit is set even higher. I won’t have sex with girls under 20, but that’s the standard I set myself.
However, it is too simple to make the fact that you know no adult males who have a wife under 16 a universal truth (what I can’t see can’t be, the earth is flat, etc).
The sad reality in Colombia is that one out of every ten adolescents has had sexual relations between the ages of 13 and 14 years. Four out of every ten adolescents have had sexual relations between the ages of 15 and 17 years. Seven out of ten have had sexual relations by the time they reach the age of 18 (International Encyclopaedia of Sexuality) and it’s common in some regions (i.a. La Guajira) for adult men to marry minors.
latina women have temper. and thats the price you have to pay. but i still say that women marry young or start having relationship at a vey young age. in my belief the people who get caught dating **** women are the ones who pay for their services in other words **** prostitutes. but to my knowledge i donna have a friend in colombia who doesn't have a relatioship with young girls.
Member #4351
07-25-05, 23:09
Well here in Peru, all the Govt. and NGO surveys show that most 15 year olds are sexually active. Whether it be with boyfriends from the barrio, or some older guys, that's the way it is in many parts of Latin America. No one is recommending that mongers come down and try to hook up with 15 year olds. However one must remember that the increasingly conservative United States moral code is neither adhered to, nor respected in much of the world. We Americans have the bad habit of trying to tell everyone else how to live their lives. The majority of girls who work here in Peru are independent contractors, no pimps...no white slave trade, just trying to make some extra bucks. No mongers are ruining the girls lives forcing them into lives of decadent prostitution. They would much rather make good money with some ignorant guy from the U.S. who pays way over market value, than get it on with some local for peanuts. That said, it is against the law to have sex with anyone under 18. I imagine that no Peruvian has ever been jailed for having consensual sex with a 16 year old. (not enough room in the prisons)...but the cops would probably love to get their hands on some gringo caught in the act with a minor.
However, good morals is most certainly one of the reasons that made the US the strongest country on Earth since the Roman Empire. It will be the same reason that in the next 50 years it will end up like the Roman Empire. In my opinion.
Had a great 22 days in Cali this month.
i think we all agree that there has to be some age of consent for having relationships with younger girls. we have all saw instances of sexual predators praying on **** girls. i was just relaying my own observations. i have spent most of my time in the larger cities of colombia.
The age of consent in Colombia is 14.
Many States in the US have ages under 18, Colorado is 15. New York is 17. Indiana is 16. I do not have a complete listing of all States.
There are some Federal laws that may make it illegal for a US citizen to have sex with anyone under 18 outside of their home State. Thus if you live in Colorado, you could have sex with a 15-year-old IN COLORADO, but not in any other State or other country.
Frankly, I prefer 20 and up-more experience.
Antifreeze
07-26-05, 14:46
some people think that because a person is able to have sex, that makes them an adult. it's not because you can perform an act that normally only adult people practice, that you become one of them. the hell, i sometimes act like a child, and that doesn't make me a child. an **** person (below 18 by international standards) may have a body that looks like the one of an adult, may from time to time perform acts that adults perform, but that does not make them an adult.
my girlfriend is 24 years old. she is a wonderful being and is a full grown woman that i appreciate very much. that being said, even at that age, i sometimes feel that she is below 18. women in colombia, in many cases, leave their father - when they are fortunate enough to have one - just to switch to their boyfriend or husband, but the relationship is pretty much the same. they are looking for directions, they are looking for authority and a framework that will allow them to have an almost normal life. once they have that, they will full-around to push the limits as they'd do with their own father, which should result in punishment like a father would impose on them when caught. when you get that, you know how to deal with a latina, and they will be thankful for your patience and flurish to become a full grown woman one day. below 18, the hardware is not there for that to happen before many years. at a later age, you may be fortunate enough to live through it and see it happening in your lifetime, but you'll still need an emotional investment.
bottom line, if you like girls below 18, then something's off in your perception of who they are, and you need to be fixed quickly because you are dangerous. there is plenty of help available. not using that help is your shame.
freeze
you say "good morals" are the reason the US has been the strongest empire since Rome? To say I am skeptical of ANY causal link between the two is an understatement, but I should ask you to clarify what you mean by "good morals" before responding further. MANY countries use the US as an example of a country LACKING "good morals" so I am curious what YOU meant by the term.
Also, "morality and legality" are NOT coterminous (read: they do not encompass the same set of behaviors). I am staying out of the "morality" issue, as it means different things to different people, but from a LEGALITY standpoint, MANY countries (dare I say most) have an age of consent below 18. In terms of Colombia, while there are websites claiming it is 14 there are also regulations I have seen indicating that it is NOW 18 (surely due to pressure from the US). For example, there is a rule that EVERY hotel is SUPPOSED to affix a sticker to registration forms stating that sex with under 18 is illegal, but the omnly such sticker I have EVER see was when I asked to see one (and the hotel clerk picked one out of the bottom of a drawer). Another example of the amorphousness of Colombian law regards the possession of small amounts of marijuana: While I have read that this is TECHNICALLY legal (though Uribe wants to recriminilize it -again dure to US pressure), like in many European countries, I have also been told that police may try to ask bribes not to report it etc. If you are rich/powerful, it is probably fine but if you are poor/powerless . . . .
Well ... I usually try to stay out of these debates ... but in this case, I'll have to add my 2 cents worth ...
As far as maturity goes ... absolutely, without question, the latina, Colombiana, Venezolana, Salvadorania, etc ... matures much faster than the gringa ... mentally and socially speaking.
I met 2 chicas in the mall today (in Miami) visiting from Colombia ... one had a bag that said ... "te quiero Colombia" ... so I approached them and we talked about Colombia ... absolutely beautiful girls ... both physically and mentally speaking ... very nice ... I was amazed when they told me they were 15 and 16 years old.
This is just an example ... I could never talk with gringa teen-agers like that.
The culture difference between the west (US / Europe) and South America is so different ... this is OBVIOUS.
A couple with an age difference of 20 years, for example, is easily accepted in South America ... people won't look twice ... in the western world, trust me, people not only look twice but some busy-bodies like to groan about it ...
the "social police" to the rescue they believe.
Sexual relations with a chica under 18 ... no matter what country ... is another matter. That is certainly a NO-NO ... at least for me.
My opinion is this ... just because someone reaches the age of 18 ... they don't automatically become ready for a sexual relationship ... and just because someone is under that age, doesn't mean they are not ready ... BUT ... there has to be an age set for general legality and morality and 18 seems to be the universal number ... the number I personally abide by and my friends too.
My girlfriend in Colombia is 20 years old ... the oldest of 3 sisters ... from a nice, middle class family. Beautiful person ... unbelievable sometimes how much more wise and mature in many ways she is than I am ... I'm a lucky dude for sure.
Really the bottom line is ... enjoy life ... enjoy Colombia ... South America ... where ever ... but don't hurt anyone ... leave the minors alone ... there are plenty of 18+ years chicas.
Suerte!
Sorry to add my 2 centavos, Basically I would have to agree with both Surfer and Ricker, with one caveat.
Although the age of consent rules may vary from country to country or even province to province they usually have one thing in common.
If the girl is under the age of 18, then the male can only be 4-5 years older.
Since this does not apply to most of us old mongers here, I would strongly advise that we use 18 at a minimum the world over.
My wife is 24 and has two twin sisters 17. They are beautiful/virgins but are no where near ready to have a sexual relationship due to there emotional imaturity. My wife on the other hand was much more mature at the same age.
As far as relationships with women 20-30 years younger, Here in Lima it is the norm for gringos. I am 27 years older then my wife and it is only the tourists that stare at us.
Also, on the subject of cheating. You can be damn sure a latina who did not marry for money will never put up with it. If she catches your Gringo ass there will be a line Latino men outside your bedroom door when you get home.
Just MHO,
LB
Is it JUST me or you sound just like Nibu?
Funny you should mention it! I was going to post in his area saying that you guy's should stop bashing him. I personally have never met the dude. Any guy who has been to Lima will tell you that they hate his jumbled and confusing posts, But he knows more about Peru than anyone else. The reason jackson gave him his own forum was so guys like you did not have to read his reports.
I find it interesting that you bring up his name, It is almost like you are pseudonym for one of those columbian touts?
PAZ
LB
Cream on Top
07-30-05, 09:52
Ok i will give it another try, as my previous post in this subject has been deleted. (probably reported, which is pathetic as a matter of speaking). Welcome to the world of free opinion. Anyway.
I fully agree there are limits to having physical contact with specific ages. Although I read some high dude in Colombia seems to be married with a girl/woman of 16. I presume she is not a "comon" case, and certainly in a mental mature stage of life to have and keep such a commitment. We as western men are used to see this as a sick/undesirable behaviour. In Colombia it seems normal like I understood out of Ricker's post. Well to be honest I would not take myself in such a commitment. On the other hand I believe some people can and are willing to do so. Why not respect their decissions and not just look black and white when making statements and critics on others people beliefs and principles. It is in a way something that has grown out of our western world by centuries. It was different before. Yes gentlemen, look at your historybooks. It was very common in high society to marry girls of age 14, 200/300 years ago. And it still is today in some parts of the world. Adapt and survive to the place you live. Accept the facts of life in another country.
I am looking for a 2bdrm apt in Cali for the month of August 8/10-8/31. I would appreciate any help.
Antifreeze
08-01-05, 16:00
"Adapt and survive to the place you live. Accept the facts of life in another country."
Would you eat your girlfriend if you landed in a cannibal country? Because, by following your thread of thoughts, I'd be scared for her if you'd ever landed there with her.
There is such a thing as claiming moral grounds and having enough conviction for one culture (or individual) to say to another: "you're wrong". But, I guess to do that you need just enough balls and vision. This topic has nothing to do with dressing the same way as people in the country you're visiting, it touches who you are. They have to accept you as a guest as much as you have to accept them as a host and both have to respect each other.
Freeze
Are there any good strip clubs to hang out in in Cali? Or for that matter in Colombia in general. I read a lot about casas, and bar scenes here not strip clubs.
Thanks
Antifreeze
08-03-05, 15:05
DD Phil,
From what I know in Cali, it's pretty shitty! There are 2 of them.
The first one is pretty low class. About only Colombians go there, and women are not that good looking (although they are dirt cheap). The bar name is called (La 20) - pronounced "la veinte". It's downtown and has some rooms available for pretty cheap.
The second one, is pretty popular. But make sure to bring your wallet as you'll need it. Flores Frescas. Dig for the address on this board, and you'll find it. Prices are pretty much like in the US, but women are of top quality (and numerous).
You may also go to a place called "Pharaon" on the rio (Avenida 2 Norte). It's not a strip club per say, but there is some ambiance.
Freeze
i recommend pharaon and the place next door for strip club. if you like a girl you take her upstairs. they have afternoon rates of about 35,000 pesos for an hour. more at night. takeout is not favored but is possible. there is a nice hamburger stand in between the two clubs.
they are located along the cali river, near the apartment hotel del rio. about 1 mile from chipichapee mall
dr. love *****house is about a block away also along the river. alot of tatood girls and chubbies, but usually 1 or 2 that are good.
There are a couple others that have occasional shows, hell even Flores Frescas only has shows twice a night so cannot be called a real "strip club". I would LOVE to open a real strip club in Cali, but am scared shitless that it might tred on somebody's else's perceived "turf". Medellin is SOMEWHAT better, as is Bogota, but IMHO Colombia is NOT a good country for strip clubs.
Antifreeze
08-03-05, 21:09
this morning's commute was a bit unusual (to say the least).
yesterday was rainy, so there were some isolated ponds of water. motorcyclist on the side of one... a car passes by (old lady) and the motorcyclist gets a little wet. not too much, just a little.
on the next red light, he catches up to her and start arguing. then he picks his gun from his belt (hidden back below his safety vest), and shoots 2 times in the air. needless to say that the old lady filled her [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) and she just went through the red light.
another good demonstration that guns are pretty much everywhere.
this guy was an idiot to even had taken it out. why would you have a motorcycle if you can't be a little exposed to the elements. then why risking your life over a little water. anyhow, idiots rule...
freeze
and deduced from that that nobody carries them? I just LOVE the guys who go down there for a couple of weeks, don't see any violence, then return and start posting about how Colombia is no more dangerous than Canada (just an example). On a brighter note, Mexico has now surpassed Colombia as the "kidnapping capital of the World."
Dollar Bill
08-04-05, 22:19
Real Life Story - I saw it first hand!!!
When I visited Cali in August 2003, I was on the balcony of my room at Hotel Don Jaime when I heard a few "pops." When I went to the balcony to see what was happening, I saw a guy riding a scooter down Av. Sexta and a guy chasing him with a gun in his hand. The guy on the scooter turned left just before the hotel down a cross street. The man chasing him, stopped at the intersection of Av. Sexta and the cross street and started firing his pistol down the street toward the guy on the scooter.
I think that someone down the cross street tried to stop the scooter, because a minute later, the guy on the scooter turned around (going the opposite way of traffic) and drove back up the street toward the guy with the gun. The guy on the scooter, then turned left on Av. Sexta and came right in front of the Hotel Don Jaime and he kept on going.
Then the guy with the gun (still in his hand) flagged down a taxi. The taxi driver did NOT hesitate in picking up the guy with the gun. They sped off down Av. Sexta toward the guy on the scooter.
A couple of minutes later, a crying woman stopped on the street below my room and two cops on Motorcycles stopped and picked her up and off they went.
I found out later, that the guy on the scooter, knocked the woman off the scooter and the guy with the gun was just a bystander trying to do a good deed.
I felt safe the whole time this was happening because I was behind a thick cement wall and it was pretty entertaining watching from a safe distance. If I was at the restaurant on the street level, I would have had a different opinion though!
So, I guess Antifreeze, Surfer and the others that have reported that guys DO carry guns are NOT full of BS. You should make your own decision whether a piece of pussy is worth the risk (and don't believe anyone who says that Colombia is NOT a risky/dangerous country).
Take care and Antifreeze, stay safe down there!
$Bill
ps - I am trying to stay safe here in Mexico!!!
Member #4018
08-06-05, 23:57
Well this is how it went.
Tuesday: Me and my boy went from Atlanta to Miami. Our flight was scheduled from Miami to Cali leaving 6 pm and arriving 8:30 pm. While boarding, there was this fine ass Colombian boarding with us. She was, and I'm not exaggerating, the finest woman I've EVER saw. Cute but fine as can be. After we went through customs, I was gonna talk with her but my buddy convinced me that there would be more. We went to a town outside of Cali called Palmira, his hometown. It's pretty much that Cali airport being in the middle and Cali one side and Palmira to the other. We went to his girlfriend's house and talked. After changing, we went to one of the casas. So-so women but one was pretty decent. It was early though so we drank and then went to another casa. I started talking to one and my buddy tried to blow her off and I didn't understand why. When the other girl came out from giving some guys a private dance, I understood why he wanted her to leave. She was about a 9 1/2. The attitude was bad though. We went to about 5 other casas but they were only okay, so we returned to the first. Then there was one girl who wasn't there the previous time. She was 18, really pale skin, red hair and a nice body. She wanted 80,000 and 30,000 for her to leave. We left about 4 am and she left about 2 pm the following day.
Wednesday after the girl left me, my buddy, his girlfriend and her brother left Palmira for Cali. We took a town to town bus (pretty much what the locals do). After arriving in Cali, we took a cab to a seafood restaurant. After that, we left for Palmetto mall. I saw alot of beautiful women in the city but I guess they all visit the mall at night. My head was on a swivel the whole time. I got some phone numbers from the girls also, but I was leaving the following day so I told them I'd call when I return (maybe 2 weeks). After leaving the mall, we returned to Palmira and my buddie's girlfriend cooked dinner. After eating and relaxing, we returned to more casas. I didn't want a girl for the night because I was leaving for the airport early. So we returned to the casa from the previous night where I got the girl who stayed with me. It was 40,000 for 45 minutes but when I paid, they said we could stay for 1 1/2 hours. I left there for my bags, showered and returned to the airport.
I'll have to get the info from my buddy about the casas and restaurant because, it being my first trip, I was wide-eyed. As far as safety, I felt very comfortable. I speak spanish (not fluently) and understand more. The people never made me feel threatened.
Member #1783
08-12-05, 20:18
I am 22, Indian (grew up in USA), and I don't look like an "American" if I dress like the locals (although when I open my mouth it shows).
I don't have too much money, but I want to have a 2 week *****fest and it looks like Cali is the best place to do this with hot girls. However I am really not sure what to think of all the "danger" associated with this place.
Am I safer because I'm not white? Do I need to know someone there to make it safe? Anywhere else safer I could go where I could get inexpensive, beautiful, young women?
Luis The Great
08-22-05, 04:27
I will be in Cali this week and just my luck allcolombiangirls.com are having there bachlor tour at this time. Does anybody know what hotel? Swimming pool they use? Has anybody just hung out and hooked up?
which I avoid like the plague (only place in Valle with any concentration of gringos).
Luis The Great
08-24-05, 02:56
Can anyone recommend hotel to stay at. I would like to spend anywhere from up to 60,000 night. I was going to stay with friends but just found out Im not going to be able to. Hotel interconnetial is way over my budget at 110$US
Please PM
Last month I stayed in Four Star Sheraton (no internet) but $70/Night- I thought it was OK. You can google and book form their website.
Luis,
I think Hotel Aristi in the downtown business district of Cali is not a bad choice. It's quiet and inexpensive (I think I paid about $60,000 the last time I stayed there).
Beware, however, that it’s not safe to walk around the streets at night as everything is closed (but then again, where in Cali is safe at night?). Always use taxis after dark.
They have their own website, where you can make reservations: http://www.hotelaristi.com.co
Enjoy!
EC
Fourpoints (Sheraton) is nice BUT their "guest fee" is RIDICULOUS (my friend Kdog stayed there last time). This guest fee trend is getting ugly (DonJaime does it too nowadays, causing them to lose my business).
There is a place right near Versailles park where I stayed the last time (my new regular place was fully booked) that was quite nice and modern, and in a great location. Sadly, I forgot the name but I think it had Versailles in the name.
Cream on Top
08-30-05, 23:05
I do not understand why there must be so much hassle about a place to stay at night. I have been investing now for about 2 weeks over internet (looking for private ads) classificados in colombia, also in Cali. It is a piece of cake to rent an appartment, yes even a full house with a pool outside for less then 1.000.000 Pesos. for a complete month. Take along some dudes or friends and share the place. No bribings with doormen or receptions, no ripoffs with hotels. For me it is clear as water. Invest in some searching, pick up the phone with your best spanish and ask if you can rent the place for a month. Promise them you will take care of the place or ask them to include a maid for the period you will be there. Tell them you will be out before the end of the rental period. So they know they win,made a good deal and even then when they surcharge because you are a tourist, you will still be better off compared to a hotel room.
the sheraton guest fee of 50 mil was nuts for colombia. she only stay for an hour too. also, the paper work involved to get her in was annoying. the high speed internet is hit or miss. they only have a fixed number of modems and they didn't have any available for me during my first night. the breakfast buffet was great (and included in the hotel rate). the room, shower, and ac were all very good.
LA Traveller
09-01-05, 02:11
I have been a guest in Cali for 10 days and here are a few observations.
Im staying at the Hotel Intercontinental, for longstays they have lower rates $57 for a tranditional room. A good option is to join the Ambassador Program, for $150 for the 12 month membership you get an upgrade to a suite for only $77 dollars per night with an office, spa bath and seperate bedroom, fruit and water everyday, cookies, late checkout and discounts on services like laundry and food.
You need to request the longstay rate and ambassador club membership, it isnt offered by staff. By the way, they give you one free night with membership so its effectively free. I read all the posts about appartments and I am sure its more economical, but make no mistake Cali is a city where security is worth a premium, people who speak english, tourist police, video security, 24 hour services...for me for 50 to 80 dollars is worth it. they dont charge for companions but may at their discretion ask them to register for your protection....but most Colombian girls arent keen on that process.
For whoring, I tried 2 el cheapo places...Pharoh and Fantacias International (both with numbers in this thread and at the recommendation of senior members. At Pharoh I tried Alejandra, 23 with a pretty tight body and cute face...probably a solid 7. She was very enthusiastic and at only $40,000 pesos ($20) she was a steal. One pop as they only bring one condom with them, everything covered.
Fantacias was even cheaper at an hour for $40,000 with two condoms. However, girls were a little older, and hygene in the rooms was a little disturbing. At the end of our session I saw her make up the bed with the same sheets I just jizzed on and took my towel from my shower and folded it up and put it back in the pile of "fresh" towels.
The bin was half full of used condoms, a few spewing on the floor. most of this I noticed after my session but it really put me off. As for the girl, she was not hot but not ugly, a 6 with a very cute face, legs and hair but undressed a bit of a gut was apparent. Everything covered and a pretty awful toothy bj, but her fucking was well intentioned and high energy. When I asked her to stop after on the second attempt she seemed frustrated and recommended the toothful BJ determined to make me nut...Jesus, for $20 this is incredible but overall nothing to write home about .
I did visit Escorcias Nightclub right near the Intercontinental. It was $130,000 for an hour and $190,000 for 2 girls. I might not have been there on a good night but the chicas seemed pretty comparable with the girls at the cheap places. I received a beer and there was an attendant so I guess I had the luxury of not romping in another mans fluids but service and quality wise I think there was no meaningful difference
I also did date some of the local girls. Dating is completely different. I was surprised when they would come with a friend on our first date or would refuse to enter into the hotelroom even just to pick something up because of any inference that might have. All this seems to quickly disapate, it seems more ritualistic and to prove they are innocent before they get more action orientated.
I find the colombian (non-hooker) women captivating in their lack of knowledge of how damn hot they are, they have very little attitude, they are very family orientated while still being fun and they are the definition of feminine. I would recommend dating women in Colombia to get over any wounds and fears you carry from the US, generally they seem very innocent and kind at heart. I do not think the guys using the agencies for wives are stupid at all, its a different mrket to whoring but I think Colombian women are better for relationships then whoring from what I saw
Almost all Colombians seem to love tourists and not resent us like many other countries have learned to do. As for danger, I didnt see anything firsthand, and I felt safe as I knew locals, but the sheer amount of security guards, guns and security instrments seems to sugguest you need to be careful. I would stay away from Avinedas Sexta at night, lots of drug deals and unsavory types, I was told by locals to avoid the clubs here and go to a larger upscale place in Norte Cali like Jungle.
Just my observations as a tourist, I am sure the "natives and "implants" know a lot more and welcome their options
Yes, but the House may have no security. Something to take into consideration for sure. However, I will be there for 25 days in Dec so I will be looking into the house deal too.
I think you mean 50 Thousand kdog.
50 mil = 50 thousand, mil is Spanish for thousand.
Luis The Great
09-03-05, 07:48
Just got back from Cali. Brief run down of places I visited. I have personal Phone numbers of some of girls and pics I will be posting in the photo section. If any body needs additional info PM me. Directions to these places can be found in the thread. The places I detailed I took part of some action. I hit about 10 places at night with some local friends. Gentlemen please keep prices to a minimum as other people commented let us establish the price not the other way around. Thanks for everyones input on this forum. It made my trip that much more enjoyable.
Dr. Amor = 50 ,000 1hr
Time = Day time action
Establishment = Cleaniest place I visited , Staff very profesional
Girls
Qunaity = 10- 15
Looks = 6 to 9
*While I was there someone checked in a gun and it was seen as "normal" besides that I would consider it safe
Maximo = 50 ,000 1hr
Time = Day time action
Establishment = Upscale neighborhood by Mr. Mojito
Girls
Quanity = 2
Looks = 9
*Even though they only had 2 girls they were very pretty I will post pic on the photo section safest neighborhood
Establishment on carea #50 My friend called this place the "pet shop" because they had fishes, dogs and a cat walking around.
Cost = 30 1/2 hour 1hr =50
Time = Night time action
Establishment = On a Corner car is visible from a main street , safe, not clean
Quanity = 10
Looks = 3-6
*I was about to leave this place and a lovely doll came in perfect GFE. I had my friends waiting to long.I only had a 30min session with her. I could of had taken her for longer this girl was the highlight of my trip. I have her phone number this girl is very shy like I like them.
HotTraveler
09-03-05, 22:43
I'll be in Cali 7 days.
I would wish to know the best nightclubs and *****houses to go.
I like places who are full of girls in great quantity.
Where is "Dr. Amor" ?
Thanks you for the information.
Aussie Greg
09-04-05, 02:40
Has any body seen Medellin Bob in Cali the last few days, I believe somebody spotted his boots the other day sticking out from under a short, fat calina´s minny skirt.
Please report any sightings.
The Aussie.
Antifreeze
09-05-05, 15:37
I have not seen Medellin Bob in here, but sure would like to. You guys took so good care of me when I went to Medellin, that I would like return the favor.
Medellin Bob, if you see this, PM me!
Freeze
PS, your lady friend was probably talking about a long term rental contract.
Short term rentals are all informal. You'll pay more, but no need for guarantors or contracts. Perhaps a deposit, though.
Can somebody rate top 5 places to pick nice girls above 18 in Cali.
Luis The Great
09-11-05, 00:19
Can somebody rate top 5 places to pick nice girls above 18 in Cali.At different times girls can be found in any casa at any age. However some casas have older women in general. If you concider 28+ older. Read through this thread someone actually put a list of 20+ places with ages I followed this and the ages werent always 100%. But I used it for addresses so I didn't mind.
Although I read some high dude in Colombia seems to be married with a girl/woman of 16.
That guy is probably rich. They can always break the rules. I mean normally a Colombian woman would never select me over a local except for the fact that she thinks I have more money. I am 30 years older than them but they would marry me if they thought they would be rich. Such is life. Sadly, I am not rich. LOL
Peter Solano
09-20-05, 21:26
Although I read some high dude in Colombia seems to be married with a girl/woman of 16.
That guy is probably rich. They can always break the rules. I mean normally a Colombian woman would never select me over a local except for the fact that she thinks I have more money. I am 30 years older than them but they would marry me if they thought they would be rich. Such is life. Sadly, I am not rich. LOL
Not really, one time I translated for a 75 year old guy who had a 19 year old girlfriend, together at the Mall she looked like she was holding the hand of her Grandpa, I doubt there was any love there , and all those expensive gifts at the Mall seem to help the relationship.
You guys have an advantage over us when it comes to picking up a younger chick, just because you look different, call it green card, ticket out of here or what have you.
But the main issue here is HOW LONG this girl is really going to last you, before she dumps you for a younger guy?
I can help you get a younger chick if you want.PM.
Cheers,
Peter
Cream on Top
09-21-05, 08:18
Not really, one time I translated for a 75 year old guy who had a 19 year old girlfriend, together at the Mall she looked like she was holding the hand of her Grandpa, I doubt there was any love there , and all those expensive gifts at the Mall seem to help the relationship.
You guys have an advantage over us when it comes to picking up a younger chick, just because you look different, call it green card, ticket out of here or what have you.
But the main issue here is HOW LONG this girl is really going to last you, before she dumps you for a younger guy?
I can help you get a younger chick if you want.PM.
Cheers,
Peter
What did you translate Peter ? His last will (testament) ? (I would not be surprised if it was his last will)...... or was it the leaflet inside the pillbox mentionning vitamine V.
Dont tell me you did not envy the old man did you ?(in a specific way)
only a golden leesh with lots of diamonds on it will keep her like a doggy with this old fart. We all know that.
Peter Solano
09-21-05, 12:21
What did you translate Peter ? His last will (testament) ? (I would not be surprised if it was his last will)...... or was it the leaflet inside the pillbox mentionning vitamine V.
Dont tell me you did not envy the old man did you ?(in a specific way)
only a golden leesh with lots of diamonds on it will keep her like a doggy with this old fart. We all know that.
LOL, actualy the man seemed very much alive, and who would not get AN INJECTION OF YOUTH with the babe he had. And oh course, take all those gifts away and she would not help him cross the street.And as far as me envying the man, well..... I can see THAT here every day. LOL. Peter.
Well Peter that is why you read us gringos writing about going to the casas for hookers in Cali. We know that the 20 year old girl will leave us in the USA and that very few of the Cali girls will stay with us. It is an illusion of money.
Now if we live with them in Cali....well I hear some good stories from other members when it comes to living local. Same goes for the Philippines. The record for faithful Colombian girls coming to the USA and staying with their man for life....not good.
The ones I have talked with on the phone only last a few calls before they start requesting gifts. Pretty gold diggers. Another reason we like the casas. But who knows if they are better or worse than the majority of girls in the city? There are millions in Cali alone and we do not know all of them personally. I am sure that there are good ones and bad ones too. Maybe only the bad ones like gringos. LOL
Peter Solano
09-21-05, 16:53
Well Peter that is why you read us gringos writing about going to the casas for hookers in Cali. We know that the 20 year old girl will leave us in the USA and that very few of the Cali girls will stay with us. It is an illusion of money.
Now if we live with them in Cali....well I hear some good stories from other members when it comes to living local. Same goes for the Philippines. The record for faithful Colombian girls coming to the USA and staying with their man for life....not good.
The ones I have talked with on the phone only last a few calls before they start requesting gifts. Pretty gold diggers. Another reason we like the casas. But who knows if they are better or worse than the majority of girls in the city? There are millions in Cali alone and we do not know all of them personally. I am sure that there are good ones and bad ones too. Maybe only the bad ones like gringos. LOL
I agree with you 100 %, and also an American friend of mine got burnt by a Filipina so I guess it is the same everywhere. and Like the say " The BAD girls are the GOOD girls" LOL . Cheers , Peter.
Hi,
Have been reading this thread for some days, I'm mexican, I'm traveling to Cali next month because of work, however, I'm going to be there for a while, have seen recomendations of places, casas, and stuff, however, I have tried some escort sites in Bogota with mixed experience, however, some of the best girls I've been with, I have knew them from these places, my experience is that these girls are a little bit more expensive, but, they are more educated, better body, more cleanned, etc (not always), than girls from brothels, after you have been with one, can get her phone, and get better prices the next time. What do ou guys think of places like these?, have recomendations? The only place I know in Cali, that is said to show real photos is www.lasprofsionales.com, in bogota you can see www.3x.mn
Regards
You never know how long any girl will keep you before she dumps you for whomever. Younger, richer, better looking, ect.. That said, why not go after the best lookign, smartest, sexiest girl possible? And ugly old bat could leave you too!
If you want business you shouldn't tell the old guys that? haha Kinda true though.
For me, 38, good shape, successful, and considered good looking, Blue eyes, ect....There it seems I do have an edge and is very easy for me to meet younger girls. And I think there is a beginning edge for Anglo men there from the start. Charm, looks, financial stabillity all play a part though. Just as it does anywhere.
I really think that you can find a LTR if you want it in Cali or anywhere in South America. When you start talking about 30 years younger it is pushing it a bit maybe. I think 15 to 20 is definitely in the realm of possibility.
Regarding divorces.. And a girl leaving you. Everyone is getting divorced here! It can happen anywhere.
I think much of it is attitude. I happen to think highly of myself and I think women are attracted to that regardless of age. So let's quit talking about them leaving us. And talk about us possibly leaving them.. Let them worry about keeping us..As my friend says about his new wife..When she gets 40 I will trade her in for two twenties.. lol..I love that. He is kidding but that is the attitiude I think men should have. Only the strong survive.
I did read something that showed 80 percent of Foreign marriages have an 20 percent divorce rate. Much lower then in the US. Not sure it's true but I did read it.
Peter Solano
09-23-05, 03:55
You never know how long any girl will keep you before she dumps you for whomever. Younger, richer, better looking, ect.. That said, why not go after the best lookign, smartest, sexiest girl possible? And ugly old bat could leave you too!
If you want business you shouldn't tell the old guys that? haha Kinda true though.
For me, 38, good shape, successful, and considered good looking, Blue eyes, ect....There it seems I do have an edge and is very easy for me to meet younger girls. And I think there is a beginning edge for Anglo men there from the start. Charm, looks, financial stabillity all play a part though. Just as it does anywhere.
Very true, and like you said, let`s aim real high. Cheers, Peter.
I really think that you can find a LTR if you want it in Cali or anywhere in South America. When you start talking about 30 years younger it is pushing it a bit maybe. I think 15 to 20 is definitely in the realm of possibility.
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I jags, I am going to have to agree with you. All of SA is pretty much the same. I believe 15-20 year age difference is probably the best. Most of my friends here average 20 years, Although I currently have 27.
I am 51 and extremely good looking and have game but limited spanish skills.
I do not do regular girls but practice my game at every oppourtunity. In the past year I have made friends with at least 100 twenty year olds, who would jump if I said the word.
I have learned over the years that game (charming personality) always overcomes looks/money/intelligence/age/language. Most of the sucessful guys I have met on this board had Game/intelligence/language.
Obviously I am talking about picking up/GF/marrying the regular girls. With most putas and all goldiggers "it's all about the Cheddar"
By the way, did you ever make it down to Lima, I think I remember talking with you last year on the forum?
Buena Suerte!
LB
Hey just like you guys ... I am very, very ... good looking ... incredibly good looking I must say and I speak espanol.
Imigaine the girls I could get!
Sounds like I and LB are your boys.
I'm just happy that you don't need looks, game, youth or success to score in this wonderful country.
Yes I made it there for 10 days. I really enjoyed it and met some nice girls..2 models actually. I staye din Miraflores the whole time. However, I must say I think Col women are prettier. On the whole anyway. I was in Cali for 22 days and will be in Med for 25 in Dec/Jan
Don't you live in Lima? Seems like you would have picked up Spanish by now. No? I am trying to learn more but I can get around ok. I need to really start trying harder for my trip in Dec.
I jags, I am going to have to agree with you. All of SA is pretty much the same. I believe 15-20 year age difference is probably the best. Most of my friends here average 20 years, Although I currently have 27.
I am 51 and extremely good looking and have game but limited spanish skills.
I do not do regular girls but practice my game at every oppourtunity. In the past year I have made friends with at least 100 twenty year olds, who would jump if I said the word.
I have learned over the years that game (charming personality) always overcomes looks/money/intelligence/age/language. Most of the sucessful guys I have met on this board had Game/intelligence/language.
Obviously I am talking about picking up/GF/marrying the regular girls. With most putas and all goldiggers "it's all about the Cheddar"
By the way, did you ever make it down to Lima, I think I remember talking with you last year on the forum?
Buena Suerte!
LB
I say we post pictures and take bets who is the best looking between me, LB and Ricker.
I would say me for sure but I need to be it because my penis is so small..haha. I would trade it all for 1 more inch. Or 2 really.
I'm really an ugly little midget with stubby little arms and legs but I have a hudge cock that I should get another boot for to put on the head because it keeps dragging on the ground and wearing down... :(.
I do have lots of money and (game). I made a fortune when Dwarf Tossing was allowed. But will I still get laid in Colombia or are they midget phobic?
Yes I made it there for 10 days. I really enjoyed it and met some nice girls..2 models actually. I staye din Miraflores the whole time. However, I must say I think Col women are prettier. On the whole anyway. I was in Cali for 22 days and will be in Med for 25 in Dec/Jan
That's what I tell every body. Peru women are not even close to there other competitors.
Anyone have information on placing an ad in the Cali newspaper. I remember one of the members got a good response from that before. He said that it was not expensive also. Like $10 for one ad.
Peter Solano
09-26-05, 19:14
Anyone have information on placing an ad in the Cali newspaper. I remember one of the members got a good response from that before. He said that it was not expensive also. Like $10 for one ad.
In two different occasions, I tried to place an ad in the Cali paper for a client of mine, they refussed the Ad, claiming only Agencies can place it. I ignore if I was in Cali would they do it, I am based in Barranquilla.
About the $10 an Ad, nowadays it can be more, remember, we get less Pesos now to your Dollars ,About 2 years ago we would get close to COL$3000 to $1, now we get Col$ 2130 to $1.
If you would care to run the Ad in Barranquilla, PM and I will give you all the details.
It is important for you guys to be honest in the Ad, about yourself and the kind of relationship you want, I had an old guy one time that had me place an ad in paper for him, saying he was 33, when I went to the girl`s house with him after I picked him up at the Airport, she shut the door on our faces and that was the end of that, So the trick is, if you are White, say so, if you are Black say so too,if you want to find a wife or just a temporary girlfriend say so. The same goes for age,there always will be women for everything so just be honest.
A typical 20 word Ad in the Local paper for a week can get you on the average 35 responses, although some guys have gotten up to 60, but again it all depends on the Ad.
I hope this helps,
Peter Solano
The rate is 2,980 to 1
QUOTE=Peter Solano]In two different occasions, I tried to place an ad in the Cali paper for a client of mine, they refussed the Ad, claiming only Agencies can place it. I ignore if I was in Cali would they do it, I am based in Barranquilla.
About the $10 an Ad, nowadays it can be more, remember, we get less Pesos now to your Dollars ,About 2 years ago we would get close to COL$3000 to $1, now we get Col$ 2130 to $1.
If you would care to run the Ad in Barranquilla, PM and I will give you all the details.
It is important for you guys to be honest in the Ad, about yourself and the kind of relationship you want, I had an old guy one time that had me place an ad in paper for him, saying he was 33, when I went to the girl`s house with him after I picked him up at the Airport, she shut the door on our faces and that was the end of that, So the trick is, if you are White, say so, if you are Black say so too,if you want to find a wife or just a temporary girlfriend say so. The same goes for age,there always will be women for everything so just be honest.
A typical 20 word Ad in the Local paper for a week can get you on the average 35 responses, although some guys have gotten up to 60, but again it all depends on the Ad.
I hope this helps,
Peter Solano[/QUOTE]
In two different occasions, I tried to place an ad in the Cali paper for a client of mine, they refussed the Ad, claiming only Agencies can place it. I ignore if I was in Cali would they do it, I am based in Barranquilla.
About the $10 an Ad, nowadays it can be more, remember, we get less Pesos now to your Dollars ,About 2 years ago we would get close to COL$3000 to $1, now we get Col$ 2130 to $1.
If you would care to run the Ad in Barranquilla, PM and I will give you all the details.
It is important for you guys to be honest in the Ad, about yourself and the kind of relationship you want, I had an old guy one time that had me place an ad in paper for him, saying he was 33, when I went to the girl`s house with him after I picked him up at the Airport, she shut the door on our faces and that was the end of that, So the trick is, if you are White, say so, if you are Black say so too,if you want to find a wife or just a temporary girlfriend say so. The same goes for age,there always will be women for everything so just be honest.
A typical 20 word Ad in the Local paper for a week can get you on the average 35 responses, although some guys have gotten up to 60, but again it all depends on the Ad.
I hope this helps,
Peter Solano
Peter, are you saying you cannot place an ad in Cali? Regardless of price you want to pay?
Peter Solano
09-26-05, 19:28
The rate is 2,980 to 1
NOT according to the paper, and I doubt any CASA DE CAMBIO or exchange place will give you more than COL$2130 to $1, but may be you are LUCKY.Peter.
Peter Solano
09-26-05, 19:33
As of Sep 26th/05
Dólar (TRM): $2.290,03
Dólar Casas de Cambio:
Compra: $2.130,00
Venta: $2.160,00
Euro : $2.758,94
What you see there as TRM, and IS COL$2290.03 to $1 means: tasa reprensentativa del mercado, which is what they call the OFFICIAL DOLLAR or Goverment Dollar, but it is different than what you would get on the street for your Dollars. So go by COMPRA which means BUY and is what they would BUY your Dollars for.Peter.
Peter Solano
09-26-05, 19:50
Ijags,
This was taken from the Major newspaper here called EL TIEMPO,if you know where anybody can get more Col$ to $ post it here, I am interested to know.peter.
Peter Solano
09-26-05, 19:54
Peter, are you saying you cannot place an ad in Cali? Regardless of price you want to pay?
Yes, that is right, the paper will not accept it, now if I was there in person, maybe , but I am in Barranquilla. I can place all the ads in the Barranquilla paper you want. Peter.
a genius, a liar or a thief. Even at the height of $/CP I NEVER saw 2980 (2900 MAYBE 2 years ago).
Also, why is Peter (whose turf is Barranquilla) being asked to post ads in a Cali paper?
By the by, just back from 2 weeks in Peru and while Colombia remains mi querida, Peru is VERY underrated as a mongering destination. In facvt from a purely MONGERING perspective it may well be better than Colombia (CERTAINLY cheaper). Colombia's strength is the GFE/ novia thing, which is NOT really what most guys reading this forum are seeking. For example, for the same price you'd pay at low end casas like La Clinica del Doctor del Amor you can get WAY better looking girls in Peru. Also, SO many Colombian spots are NOT geared for all nighters whereas this acn be more easily arranged at some spots in Peru.
Member #4351
09-27-05, 02:18
A girl in Cali is trying to send me a CD with her in action. I sent her the bucks for FedEx to Peru. FedEx checked out the Cd and told her that: 1. It isn't "original" so they can't send it. 2. They can't send porno.
Anyone have any ideas as how she can get it to me? Since when is FedEx using gestapo tactics?
I'm wrong, I had the wrong thing on my mind. Sorry. What about the ad though Peter? Is it possible in Cali?
What area were you in mostly? In Peru.
Remember me? I talked to you 2 years ago when I was in Peru on the phone. Are you still there? We were going to get a drink but you got sick.
Peter Solano
09-27-05, 03:46
What about the ad though Peter? Is it possible in Cali?
In Cali I can not, they will not accept Ads over the phone or on line, I don`t know in person.
In Barranquilla, I can run all the ads you want , Peter.
Some say that the girls are prettier in Cali than in Barranquilla. I do not know. How much was the 20 word ad in Barranquilla? What is the accomodation like there? Is the city safe? I was all set to get going to Cali next July. Read about the city and saw some of the girls from the agencies. They looked hot!
About Peru. I never hear about it as a mongering place. Wonder why. It is as far as Thailand for me in LA going there. Cali is a lot closer. So is DR but a lot of bad stories about bad situations and the girls are pretty expensive. Not that many good looking ones although I have seen a few stunners.
Just a thought..Regarding kidnappng, running an ad is a sure way of getting attention, maybe some of it unwanted.
Peter Solano
09-27-05, 04:53
Just a thought..Regarding kidnappng, running an ad is a sure way of getting attention, maybe some of it unwanted.
I never saw that happen!!!
If YOUR ad would be the only one, MAY BE I would agree with you,but I have been doing this for over 8 years now, and already have lost count as to how many ads I have placed.
And also most guys run their ad way in advance before coming here so they have a chance to really SENSE the girls and get an idea as to who they want to meet and who they don`t.
The worst thing that happened to these guys here is that they GOT LAID A LOT, and most times FOR FREE.Peter.
Cream on Top
09-27-05, 08:52
Well as it is not an "original" CD, it must be a copy. Let her send it just by ordinary postal service to you. In a little postal box firmly taped so nobody (after scanning) have the will to open it or demolish the box. Let her write on top of the package that it is a "birthdaygift without value". So it looks a sentimental value for the consignee. Let her make a copy just in case it will get lost.
If the above does not work. Let her send it to me (Europe), hehe... When she worths the effort, I'll send it through to you, as postals from Europe to US are not so closesly controlled compared to postals from S.America to US. (grins)
A girl in Cali is trying to send me a CD with her in action. I sent her the bucks for FedEx to Peru. FedEx checked out the Cd and told her that: 1. It isn't "original" so they can't send it. 2. They can't send porno.
Anyone have any ideas as how she can get it to me? Since when is FedEx using gestapo tactics?
Member #4351
09-27-05, 15:19
OK, we´ll try that.
Lima is 8 hours from LAX on LAN. DEspite being further than Coombia, nonstop flight lets you arrive more quickly than ANY flight to CAli (which will require a change of planes). Bangkok is at least 17 to 18 hours IF you get a quick connection. Peru rocks and is both cheaper and safer than Colombia.
Colombia is still my favorite for the GFE , due in part due to lack of gringos-outside Cartagena that is, but Peru offers more mongering options.
Member #4351
09-28-05, 23:58
Using the postal service. Promised her discretion, sorry.
Cream on Top
09-29-05, 07:45
1. I did not have problems with my packages sent into Colombia so far. And it was with "values" inside. One time I send copies of original CD's to Colombia myself by ordinary postal services. A whole bunch (about 6 pieces). Never had any problem, arrived without any delay. Made a friend happy as this way she saved muchos dineros.
2. I do not think ordinary postal services will oblige you to open a firmly thight and taped package at the desk. Especially when it comes from a girl. It will look (indeed) to embarassing (also for the postal clerck). Just let her tell ahead to the postal clerk it is a CD with family pictures. I do not think they will put the CD into a computer to check everything out. As this is a violation of the privacy.
LOL, yes I know, I was only kidding you,I hope it does get to you,the mail in Colombia is not the best, I sent one of my girls a gift and she never received it. Latter I found out about AVIANCA EXPRESS, see if they ship to Peru, but you wil have to open the package in front of them prior to shipment, so you have to be careful about what you send, unless you want to be embarrased in front of a lot of people.Cheers, PSII.
Peter Solano
09-29-05, 08:34
I agree with BOTH of you guys somewhat.
What PUSSY SEEKER II said about things from the States getting stolen in the mail is TRUE.
I had that happened to me in different occasions, so I recomend if you are going to use the US POSTAL SERVICE , to register the package, at least there is a tracking record , as regular mail keeps no record.
I see no point in SAVING money , by using REGULAR mail if the items will never reach the adressee. I guess you, CREAM ON TOP, have been lucky so far.
Also things NOT only get stolen coming into Colombia, also leaving Colombia as well.
One time I sent a Pocket computer, If someone remembers the Radio Schack basic pocket computer, and a Bulova watch to be repaired to NY.
The person there, received an EMPTY box after a month, the money I SAVED by not using REGISTERED mail, did not compensate the loss.
It is also true,that sometimes the cost of registering an item in the States, can be equal or greater to the cost of a Courrier service, so using alternate methods could be an option.
And with you CREAM ON TOP, I agree on the fact that it is unlikely they will pop the CD in the computer to see what is in it.
But she will have to open the package, no matter how well sealed or taped it is.
Especially after 9 11. It could contain explosives or illegal substances, and it makes no difference if the sender is a girl or a man.Girls here HAVE to open their purses when entering a Mall or a Department Store.
Writing something like " MUSICA VARIADA" which means assorted music could disguise the contents of the CD a bit,and I doudt the clerk will pop the CD in the computer to hear just LOUD MOANS. LOL
She could also send you David_33 a pair of panties as a souvenier,but she will have to show them to the Clerk and to all the other people in line.
I know this is the Cali thread, but this information can be useful to anyone in the USA.
I hope this helps a bit. Cheers to all of you, Peter.
Lima is 8 hours from LAX on LAN. DEspite being further than Coombia, nonstop flight lets you arrive more quickly than ANY flight to CAli (which will require a change of planes). Bangkok is at least 17 to 18 hours IF you get a quick connection. Peru rocks and is both cheaper and safer than Colombia.
Colombia is still my favorite for the GFE , due in part due to lack of gringos-outside Cartagena that is, but Peru offers more mongering options.
OK Surfer. I am going to look on the Lima Peru postings now. I hope that there are a lot of 10s there. You have promoted Lima over and over again so it must be good. How is the non pro scene there?
Member #4351
09-29-05, 16:04
Not a lot of 10s, probably Colombian girls are generally prettier. But Lima is fairly unspoiled and there are possibilities all over the place. Ask Surfer about his manicurist.
Surfer, nice meeting you and Gaugin, can not wait to see your Peru report!
David33,
Every time I see people trying to compare SA girls I cringe. In every country there are ugly and beautiful girls and general rules of thumb are just that. It reminds me of the article in the "Mens Journal" about 5 years ago in which they tried to identify the country with the most beautiful girls on the planet. After much research they narrowed it down to a small fishing village in Iceland about a hours drive from Rekjavek(sp.) Right after the article American guy's were paying astronomical prices for tickets to there annual beauty contest. Beauty is such a subjective thing and ratings rarely include personality. Almost all women put personality ahead of looks when it comes to dating and sex, It seems that with maturity us guys are starting to factor that into our equations.
John05,
You probably will not find many 10's in Lima. But here is some valuable advice!
If you turn over any Peruvian 7 she becomes a Columbian 10, however it does not work on a pair of 5's.
LB
I disagree that I have "promoted Lima over and over again". I have only been back 3 days man! The non pro scene IS happening, though David shafted me on the lawyer in Trujillo with huge hooters who would have been a highlite of the trip ):
Looks ARE subjective, as LimaBusy notes, so I can only speak to my perceptions. I am NOT into white skinned blondes or what many Americans would consider model types. I like Morenas (Brown), bajitas (short) and I especially like a solid pair of non saggy boobs and a curvy culito (ass).
Colombianas are still tops in my book, make no mistake. However, based on what I have seen/heard I believe Venezuelanas are equal in looks (but inferior in attitude). Ecuador is WAY behind the curve, with Peru not far being Colombia. The best girls in Peru seem to come from the Eastern portion (the Amazon).
For sensuality and performance, it is an absolute no brainer: Brasileras blow doors on EVERY Nationality on Earth (at least those that I have tried and I will wager no other nationality is as uninhibited).
I disagree that I have "promoted Lima over and over again". I have only been back 3 days man! The non pro scene IS happening, though David shafted me on the lawyer in Trujillo with huge hooters who would have been a highlite of the trip ):
Looks ARE subjective, as LimaBusy notes, so I can only speak to my perceptions. I am NOT into white skinned blondes or what many Americans would consider model types. I like Morenas (Brown), bajitas (short) and I especially like a solid pair of non saggy boobs and a curvy culito (ass).
Colombianas are still tops in my book, make no mistake. However, based on what I have seen/heard I believe Venezuelanas are equal in looks (but inferior in attitude). Ecuador is WAY behind the curve, with Peru not far being Colombia. The best girls in Peru seem to come from the Eastern portion (the Amazon).
For sensuality and performance, it is an absolute no brainer: Brasileras blow doors on EVERY Nationality on Earth (at least those that I have tried and I will wager no other nationality is as uninhibited).I know a little about Brazil and I can say that SOME of their woman are hot and SOME are affectionate but most are as plastic as their tit jobs. It is engranded in them and the plastic might not be so much to hurt as to STROKE your ego but they are plastic.
They look to complement even if they do not have anything to say. It is not just a sex con thing it is a culture thing. When I visit my family in Brazil (Bello Horizante) I visit their friends and associates and I have heard them go out of their way to complement something in the houses they visit and once out they so how horrible it was.
Brizilians on a hole are decent people but when it comes to the trust factor I would trust a Colombian first.
About las Venezolanas ... the equal in looks but inferior in attitude ... statement.
Honestly, this can be true for the "upper echelon" (economically speaking) chicas ... they can be arrogant.
However, the same can be said of the "upper echelon" Colombianas tambien.
Truth is ... I've traveled for years to both Maracaibo and Caracas, as well as all over Colombia ... trust me amigo ... the chicas de Venezuela are sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
Suerte!
Peter Solano
09-30-05, 23:45
the chicas de Venezuela are sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
True, but most are bleached blonde . Just kidding,:) Peter.
Good waves in winter too. Caracas sounds the least friendly for chicas. Secondary cities sound like the call as everybody says the chicas are much friendlier (foreigners are more of a novelty so it makes sense. ) Valencia and Merida are both mentioned in positive ways.
You ought to givev Peru a chance to, or maybe you have been there recently. Definitely hook up with David33 if you go. Suerte compadre
I've always had GREAT times in Caracas ... met my current novia in a McDonalds at the mall ... she's demasiada sweeeeeeet!
Colombia ... Cali, Medellin, Barranquilla ... awesome ... but trust me ... walking about Caracas. more hot hot chicas per sq foot than anywhere I've ever been too ... especially if you dig the morenas ... como yo.
If you approach these chicas in a nice manner ... they're muy friendly.
Suerte!
Want To Play
10-01-05, 16:38
Hmmmm I must be in the wrong place, I was looking for the Cali forum
Planning a 30 day trip to Columbia
I near help on where I should go 1st:
Cali, Mede, Bogota, Barq & Cart.
Which is cheaper departing from Miami?
I am ending 11 yrs of travling to Brazil because I have mastered it. (North & South), experienced 4 Carnivals.
Is Columbia cheaper?
Can I rent a studio apartment in a working class neighborhood. How much per night.
I would like to visit small towns outside of Mede, Cali, and Bogo.
I am doing as much research & reading of this site as possible.
Can you please post the 5 star places to find 9's and 10's in Cali, Bogo & Mede and Cart.
Would you recommend long distance bus travel from different cities?
Can you list 3 or 4 places to find chicas in each city.
Are there many young chicas in their 20's to discover?
Can someone provide me with apartment contacts in each of these cities?
What is the bottom price you guys are paying the chica for an all night stay?
I am traveling from Miami and long for the cheapest non-stop flight and an airline that allows me to earn miles towards a free ticket.
Can you help with info Sufer
Please feel free to post helping advice anyone
Relax ... WTP ... comparisons are always good,
Imaginate ............................................................. !
Luis The Great
10-03-05, 01:36
Planning a 30 day trip to Columbia
I near help on where I should go 1st:
Cali, Mede, Bogota, Barq & Cart.
Which is cheaper departing from Miami?
I am ending 11 yrs of travling to Brazil because I have mastered it. (North & South), experienced 4 Carnivals.
Is Columbia cheaper?
Can I rent a studio apartment in a working class neighborhood. How much per night.
I would like to visit small towns outside of Mede, Cali, and Bogo.
I am doing as much research & reading of this site as possible.
Can you please post the 5 star places to find 9's and 10's in Cali, Bogo & Mede and Cart.
Would you recommend long distance bus travel from different cities?
Can you list 3 or 4 places to find chicas in each city.
Are there many young chicas in their 20's to discover?
Can someone provide me with apartment contacts in each of these cities?
What is the bottom price you guys are paying the chica for an all night stay?
I am traveling from Miami and long for the cheapest non-stop flight and an airline that allows me to earn miles towards a free ticket.
Can you help with info Sufer
Please feel free to post helping advice anyoneYou should look at AA.com dont fly into Cali Im planning to take a trip to Cali it seems that there are good deals to Mede and Bog Cali is $800- $900 everywhere else is only $500. Try Avainca also.
Good luck
I tried that cyber cupido but can not translate all of the words on my own. It seems that it is a pay per month site. You can look at the photos but not too many. Then, if you want to write to one, you must pay like $20. I suppose you can use the internet to translate. Some are kind of cute. The photos I have seen of the girls in Colomibia are pretty nice.
Not sure what city is the best in Colombia. Seems like every guy has his favorite. Cali is real popular. Most of us can learn a little Spanish a lot faster than Portuguese so Brazil is out for now. Got ripped off by the Brazilians before so Colombia can be no worse.
Peter Solano
10-03-05, 04:26
I tried that cyber cupido but can not translate all of the words on my own. It seems that it is a pay per month site. You can look at the photos but not too many. Then, if you want to write to one, you must pay like $20.
This is one of the few sites that lets you contact the girls for free, the only drawback is that you are limited to 2 contacts per day, restricted by age, and limited to seeing 50 pictures per day for free.
Also if a girl does not write the age she wants her man to be, you will not be able to write her.
Even if she is within the age bracket you want.
She WILL be able to write you though, but you will not unless you become a paying member or GOLD MEMBER.
But they will not edit your message, so you can send her your email or phone number, unlike most other sites, and you can read all your letters to without a restriction.I hope this helps. Cheers,Peter.
Hi,
I just arrived in Cali. Are there any guys here at the moment who are also alone anf also wanna hang out make fun? Send me a pm.
Maharadjah
10-07-05, 22:29
First at all, you need to know some spanish words to get in contact with them.
In the south of Cali there is a university called universidad de la valle (Univalle). Every taximan knows that place. You can take also public bus, many of them stop close to the entrance (n°7,9 blanco negro...) .
The university is in front of Unicentro BY la pasochancho. You can go inside, there are watchmen in front of the gate, but don't stop go directly inside as you are working/studying there.
But if you look like a gringo ,wearing a flashy yellow t-shirt written Colombia, is better to have some good reasons (say that you are a teacher from USA coming to see a friend working in physical department!)
After that, is like you are in heaven, with plenty of young girls working in the campus.
The good place is the CAI ( a sort of canteen), have a meal or juice and look for your partner.Don't be shy and talk to them, as soon they will know you are a foreigner, you will have good chance.Most of the girls will have cellular, so take the number and call them later.
You can meet people who are selling "minutos" for calling cellulars. It's the cheaper place. 100 pesos for Ola and 300 pesos for the others networks.
And if you cannot find a girl there , go to Unicentro. You can find an office to put an ad (classificados) in a newspaper.
Tchao,
MR
Antifreeze
10-14-05, 14:22
Come on guys! Where's your pride?
Putting an ad to meet girls is just one of the siliest idea I've ever heard. I am not saying that it doesn't work, but come on, what are you saying to everyone (including yourself) about yourself? "I am desperate" - "The only thing that I have working right for me is my passport and wallet" - "I can't compete with all the other guys on the same basis" - "I'll accept any girl because my dick is on fire". And then, what kind of girls do you get? The ones that are looking for an easy catch (which is exactly what you are). If you really do not have anything else working for you, and you really need to seriously consider running an ad to get some, then I'd advise to get out of the market. Forget about sex, you had your days (or maybe not), but now leave sex all together so that other people that deserve it can actually enjoy it because they actually have a personality, some carisma and else...
Freeze
Hermescali
10-14-05, 14:45
Come on guys! Where's your pride?
Putting an ad to meet girls is just one of the siliest idea I've ever heard. I am not saying that it doesn't work, but come on, what are you saying to everyone (including yourself) about yourself? "I am desperate" - "The only thing that I have working right for me is my passport and wallet" - "I can't compete with all the other guys on the same basis" - "I'll accept any girl because my dick is on fire". And then, what kind of girls do you get? The ones that are looking for an easy catch (which is exactly what you are). If you really do not have anything else working for you, and you really need to seriously consider running an ad to get some, then I'd advise to get out of the market. Forget about sex, you had your days (or maybe not), but now leave sex all together so that other people that deserve it can actually enjoy it because they actually have a personality, some carisma and else...
FreezeWell, this is a forum which mostly dealos with paying for sex. So if you go to Cali for a rather short trip, don't like the casas too much, are a bit shy with hunting for tel numbers in a mall why not posting an ad. And even men who haven´t a personality, a lot of carisma or are good looking deserve as much sex as you do.
In fact, we older men are much better lovers than young bucks even though we can't do it as often and might use a bit if Vitamin V for repeated sessions over a short period of time. In fact, my interest in chasing skirt has increased markedly as I get older. When I was Screwed Up's age, I was focused on chasing waves instead. I would have sex when freebies fell in my lap, but I never really started patronizing hookers until my 30s.
Your suggestion that older guys should just stop having sex is SO absurd that I urge you to delete your post before it becomes the subject of much ridicule. Please reread your post and I am SURE you will realize that your theory of "deserving" sex due to charisma etc. sounds MUCH more "silly" than people placing ads. If they want to post ads (hardly necessary IMHO) to find girls, so what? If they end up finding golddiggers, well that is a risk they must accept. But I fail to see how that all affects YOU and why you are so opposed to it.
Regulr Travlr
10-14-05, 20:16
You are just wrong on so many counts.
I have seen pics that PSII got in response to his ads. They look pretty good.
Why not use an ad for a first time visit to a country, especially when you are not as fluent in the native language? Fill up your first few days with some sure things you met thru the ads. If things work out, great. If not, gain some confidence, and begin the hunt.
It appears that you are saying that paying for sex at all is to be looked down upon. Isn't that what this board is all about?
As for age, I will have to echo Surfer's comments. When I was younger I would put up with all the effort of the chase to get some pussy or when "it fell in my lap" Now after having been married once, I just don't want to deal with it. Sure I meet some ladies and have a nice dinner and maybe get sex. Then a lot of headaches! So it is just easier to search out some P4P and get on with it. I have a lot of other things to waste my time on.
I am not a fan of newspaper ads but I have used the internet extensively latinamericancupid as well as other sites and it is the same thing. So I can not call the kettle black. I think if a guy wants it, he has to use all of the tools available to him be it game/looks/money or newspaper ads. This guy PS11 has never been down to SA like many guys on this forum and do not realize how incredibly easy it is to get snatch paid or unpaid.
I can remember my first online experience when I lived in the states. When a hundred beautiful women half your age are begging you to come down it does stroke your ego.
So live and let live!
LB
Antifreeze
10-15-05, 00:38
would you post an ad in your hometown newspaper? probably not. probably because you would be scared of what the other people would think. well, i would not, mostly because i would be scared of my own thoughts rather than the ones from other. i would not because my self-esteem would be affected negatively.
i respect everyone here (as long as ****s are not involved), but that doesn't mean that i have to accept every behavior as mine.
i personaly think that putting an ad is pathetic, and if anything else, plain dangerous (people do get kidnapped down here - for a tiny portion of the colombian society, having a list of phone numbers and adresses of gringos is a pot of gold).
anyway, not a big deal. i do not keep any hard feeling against anyone. i am happy that you had a good trip psii, and that worked out for you.
good to have some life back on that board (one of the reason i posted this, was to get some movement again here), i missed you guys!
freeze
That IS a potential risk of running an ad I suppose. I have never needed to run an ad (as you know my problem in Cali is not having enough time to visit with all the chicas I already know), and my post was less about your comment on posting ads thanm the implied criticism of the hobby as a whole. Anyway, hope to see you soon (my girls are getting impatient (: ) and I got ofered a free room in Cartegana for Miss Colombia pageant so I am seriously considering that idea.
Cream on Top
10-15-05, 19:56
What you do does not matter, as long as you get laid. I think that's the purpose of this board. From paid AND free sex. The way you achieve those goals can be different for everybody. So what is the f*cking point argueing about this !!
We all have or own "style", we all have our own tricks. Its called personality, charisma, kharma, whatever you like it to be called.
One thing is for sure. Age has nothing to do with it (cfr. Antifreeze), it is common knowledge in Colombia a major part of the mid twenty aged chica's prefer men +35 and yes even double their age. Maturity, security and a wealthy cave to bring up their off spring is what they are looking for. (this is the non paid sex scene for a major part). They take their chances with their gringo boyfriend after a while. And convince him with their outstanding sexual abilities. Like putting the cherry on top of the cream jajaja !!!
Pro scenes .... well you have them everywhere. That's (for colombia at least) IMO a nice alternative. For days without a "freebee"booking. :-)
For many countries it is the other way around. You pay to get sex. I think Colombia is quiet different when you look normal, behave normal, show some respect, and show you are a "caballero" you get laid every night for free.
Up to you what you like ! Let us get back to reports.
Refering to Cream On Tops comment about Age. He stated that a woman of say 25 prefers a man of say 35 or older.
I have found this to 100% correct, not only in Colombia but all across central america aswell.
I am 25, but look 21. I have found it hard to find regular chicas because girls my age have NOOOO interest in a guy my age, even when they know I am American.
If im in a mall or something, the chicas that are looking at me are usually wearing a school uniform! LOL!
Refering to Cream On Tops comment about Age. He stated that a woman of say 25 prefers a man of say 35 or older.
I have found this to 100% correct, not only in Colombia but all across central america aswell.
I am 25, but look 21. I have found it hard to find regular chicas because girls my age have NOOOO interest in a guy my age, even when they know I am American.
If im in a mall or something, the chicas that are looking at me are usually wearing a school uniform! LOL!
I would kill to be 25 again..I am 38. How are you affording to travel kiddo?
You must have something on the ball at an early age..
Having living 4 months in South America, I can confirm what Rygin wrote. I wouldn't say 100 per cent but more than 80 per cent anyway.
When I was in Peru for ex. it was easy to have dates with girls around 20-25. I am 38 but I look 32-33...
One aspect that is not mentionned here is the RELIGIOUS aspect. Many girls, that I date, believe in god and they usually don't want to have sex before their marriage or they want to go out with the guy 6 months or 1 year before having sex with him.
I had a girlfriend in Lima, I could kiss her, but no sex....
I don't know if it's the same in Colombia, if religion is as much important as in Lima. Or perhaps I just met the wrong catholic girls or religious girls......just bad luck......
But even some girls that I met and they don't believe in god or go to the church, they told me that they wanted to wait a long time before having sex with a guy.....
I met many girls in Peru, between 30 and 40.
Is it the same in Cali or in some other cities in Colombia???
Age means nothing really ...
I'm on my way to Venezuela today to hang with an 18 year old, beauty ... I'm in my early 40's ... "cuarenta y pico" as they say.
We get along great ... she doesn't date young dudes ... like most of these native latinas ... she says "no me gustan los muchachos" ... or "I don't like the boys".
When people here ... in the good ole' USA ask me ... how can you date these young girls? What do you talk about?
I just laugh ... 'cause they just don't get it.
Let's see ... what do my friends here in the US talk about with their equal-age wives/girlfriends ... hmmmm ... how lazy we are, how we don't have a big enough house/car, don't make enough money for them, ............... etc.
Different culture ... different world ... different way of thinking ... thank goodness!!
On another note ... seriously ... these latinas ... even if they're religous ... if they're your girlfriend or want to be ... and they really dig you ... they're gonna take care of you sexually ... maybe not the first date or second, but shortly thereafter.
They're not stupid ... they know a man has his needs ... and if she doesn't take care of you ... somewone else will.
Suerte!
Member #4351
10-16-05, 17:45
Volpone,
I think you had bad luck. In years of living in Peru I haven´t encountered a problem with religion. Although the great majority here are officialy Catholic, they don´t let that fact stop them from having a good time. Less and less "virgins at marriage".
Hermescali
10-16-05, 18:30
I would kill to be 25 again..I am 38. How are you affording to travel kiddo?
You must have something on the ball at an early age..I was spending month at a time in Latin Amerika when I was 25. And I paid for that. I get more girls now at 39 then I did when I was 25. But my problems at 25 was also that I looked like 21 then, definately too young for many of the girls.
oy ricker que mas viejo?
what you said about the latinas is spot on. all ages are really great too. i have had some encounters with colombiana milfs (30-40yrs) and i am almost a convert. those women really know how to take care of a man in and out of the cama/bed. dios mio its like getting raped, they never want to leave it alone!!! i think because they know a man in his 40s + is so desirable by the chicas there is nothing they won't do to keep their man happy. the ones i have been with also had bodys better than most a lot younger.
All ages are really great too. I have had some encounters with Colombiana MILFs (30-40yrs) and I am almost a convert. Those women really know how to take care of a man in and out of the cama/bed.
I totally agree with this statement since women in this age bracket have such a different mentality, personality and attitude. They sure know how to treat and take care of you, regardless of your age (I'm 33). Last time I was in Cali (December 2004) I hooked up with a MILF and went out with her on my last night there. She was actually the "cherry on top of the cream" - not only did she make me feel very good, but we kept in touch afterwards for a while. She didn't tire writing me emails and calling me internationally on her dime. I even received a gift from her on my birthday. With the younger ones the interest level eventually faded and it wasn't that intense to begin with. Maybe I need to age a little more for them he..he.he....
Cream on Top
10-18-05, 23:14
All ages are really great too. I have had some encounters with Colombiana MILFs (30-40yrs) and I am almost a convert. Those women really know how to take care of a man in and out of the cama/bed.
I totally agree with this statement since women in this age bracket have such a different mentality, personality and attitude. They sure know how to treat and take care of you, regardless of your age (I'm 33). Last time I was in Cali (December 2004) I hooked up with a MILF and went out with her on my last night there. She was actually the "cherry on top of the cream" - not only did she make me feel very good, but we kept in touch afterwards for a while. She didn't tire writing me emails and calling me internationally on her dime. I even received a gift from her on my birthday. With the younger ones the interest level eventually faded and it wasn't that intense to begin with. Maybe I need to age a little more for them he..he.he....
I'll get the MILF's once I am +60 :-)..... for now i keep on enjoying the young salsa deers and hunting them down. Way enough time to let me taken care off another way once I need a cane to walk around.
Hi,
I like only no prostitute gilrs.
I am 51 old and in Africa there is no problems with very young girls.
In Cali can I choise every very young girl too.
Can you give me some info about Cali about it?
For example can a 20 years old girl takes interest about me?
Some detailed info, please.
Thanks
Poturu... We try to keep things in the realm of good taste here, so when you say very young girls lets be talking of nothing under 18yrs... OK?
Yes a 20yr old will take interest in a 50 yr old man... but... There are some things to consider here. Is she poor and the family is pushing her to find a rich gringo to elevate their status? Are you 50 and look 40? Or is she a pro and you are an ugly old smelly bastard? In that case she is only shagging you for money and its a matter of how good of an actress she is... ;) Entendio viejo?
*Not trying to insult anybody just the facts IMO.
Hey ... I'm heading down to Barranquilla to see my 19 year old Costenita ... and then the 19 year old Paisita in Medellin.
I'm 40 y pico but look much older ... ha ha ... I think I look 40 but act like a kid ... and I laugh a lot.
Taker easy amigo!
Latina Passion
10-28-05, 21:49
Damn I hit the Lotto, with my puta! A good girl from a good family but 100% freak in bed, and yes a lady in the streets!
20 Vs. 50 Possible yes, but likely hell NO! You have to look at it like this, life is like a book Chapter after Chapter we read learn and experience! A 20 year old Hottie is maybe on Chapter 3, still wants to party hang with her friends the mall experiment with Alcohol and hell maybe even drugs!
At 43 my ass is still pretty young, my best friend is my 28 year old Sobrino, but can I keep up with a 20 y.o. hell yes for a few months, after that nada in common!
One thing that my girl told me that Gringo's open up their wallets way to soon, as if they are trying to buy the girl, man is she sorry she said that!
Not sure who said it maybe Ricker, but yes from my limited experience, with bad and good girls in Colombia, the good ones will not take your money for the most part to much pride, the bad girls will flat out ask, but bad really bad can be good my friends! Mmmmm! Check out my pics!
About six months ago, my cry was broke, it was hard for her to ask for 100,000 K! So I sent her a Mil, told her dumb ass to pay off all of her bills, and learn how to manage her money better, because Daddy will not be sending more!
And what did she do, paid off all her bills and even saved some money when I came back the following month!
She showed Daddy the receipts, that she had paid off all her bills, and of course Daddy gave her a spanking for mismanaging her money!
Jsut another exsample when bad can be good!
God I love Latinas!
Hey Latina Passion ...
I pretty much agree with what you say but ... when you describe the 20 year old on Chapter 3 ... seems more like the gringa 20 year old you're describing ... i.e. ... hanging at the mall, drug experementing, partying, etc.
Sure there are latinas like that too ... but not the 20 year olds (non-putas) that I hang with.
My girlfriends (of about 20 years) are either studying hard in school or working or both and / or taking care of family members too ... of course they like to rumbear ... party and let loose too ... but for the most part ... they aren't girls at 18 or 20 years old ... they're women ... unlike the gringa ... (in general of course).
As you know the cultures are worlds apart between the west and latina (pure latina that is ... not South Beach latina).
The 19 / 20 year olds I hang with are very much as mature or mas than I.
Yes, you're corecto ... I (us guys) have the experience, more chapters behind us, as you put it ... but that's one of the qualities that these younger senoritas really dig.
The ones I talk and hang with really like the guys with the experience ... and of course it sure just makes you feel younger hanging with a younger chica.
Claro que si ... if you don't know what your doing ... in the world of looking for young latina girlfriends ... you can definitely get involved with the professional gringo hunter ... wallet chaser ... definitely out there ... Bunches of them in those Cali Marriage agencies ... imaginate.
IMHO ... go out ... be friendly ... don't be shy ... talk to muchas chicas ... date muchas chicas ... LEARN THE LANGUAGE ... have fun ... it'll be easy to know which chicas REALLY dig you and which don't
Age really ... it doesn't matter down south ... no hang-ups ... if you dig someone and they dig you back ... it's cool.
Suerte!
Latina Passion
10-28-05, 23:49
I forgot about the culture, man I've have only been doing the latin thing for 3 years now, dude your on the Money, I'm from L.A. and and the Latinas here are not South American Latinas!!!!!!!!!!
My girl is 29 I'm 43 and I get along great with her friends and family, includeing Grand Ma!
I have even talked to Grand Ma about how I think a relationship should be, Daddy has line item veto power, I told her baby girl will get her way 90% because I'm not that picky, but when it comes to a major decision Daddy is calling the ball if can't call it together, Granny agreed!
Told me that is how her husband ran his house!
The funny thing is some of her Aunts my age or a bit younger, oh my god they are fine!!!!!!!!
And your right Latinas tend to date guys older then they are!
I can't wait to sell my house and retire down there!
Cream on Top
10-30-05, 09:32
For those interested :
hotel listing with phonenumbers in Cali.
http://www.partres.com/hotel/cal.html
Luis The Great
11-05-05, 06:08
In one of the reports someone said every massage ends with a happy ending. Is this the norm even the legit looking massage parlors?
Travel Fun
11-17-05, 22:09
My trip to Cali showed the value of research – in this case I forgot to bring my research results, and it really set me back. I was reduced to using the newspaper ads, and many of the ads were not fruitful.
First, Cali seemed fairly welcoming to me as a tourist. The people were friendly and helpful, and most were interested to just chat with a North American. There are fewer guards than in Costa Rica, and I took that as a good sign.
The local paper has about 40 ads for various houses, nightclubs and private parties. I checked out almost every single house advertising, and more than half of them were not at the address listed. This went for several houses that have appeared in these forums.
When I’m traveling by myself I don’t ever go into a house I haven’t checked out in the daytime, just to give myself a little bit of extra security. So I was very disappointed at the number of houses that were simply empty shells, with signs for sale or for rent on them. I didn’t call the numbers in the ads, and that might have saved me from some wasted investigations, but if the ad is running today, and the house address has obviously been empty for weeks – I don’t think about calling the number. My paranoia I guess.
Eventually I found a couple places that were open, but the only place I actually went in was south and east of the Guayaquil neighborhood, a borderline security risk. But the house was very friendly, the ladies were sweet, and the prices were downright inexpensive. The address is Calle 13A #17-32. This house actually has two ads in the same paper.
Price asked for a massage with happy ending was COP 12,000, or 16,000 for two women, which they for some reason were really trying to get me to go for. That’s for the first 35 minutes. I wound up spending about two hours each visit, and spent COP 35,000 and 40,000 per visit. I was really happy with the services and the companionship of the two women I picked.
I stayed at the MonteCarlo Apartahotel for COP 80,000 per night. This was a one bedroom apartment with a fully equipped kitchen. The staff were absolutely helpful and nice. I did not bring anyone home, and that might not be the best thing to do there. But it would depend on the person you brought home and the person on duty I think, more than anything else. It was only three blocks away from Avenita Sexta, and all of the nightclubs, but was pretty quiet at night.
I wish I had more time in Cali, but the next time will be better yet.
Thunderthrust
11-29-05, 22:51
Can anyone tell me if the Intercontinental is girlfriendly(pros and nonpros alike)? I have booked a double room.
Also, is there any problem with withdrawing money from ATM s using UK debit and credit cards in Cali? Have been to Rio before and very few ATM s did the business.
Finally, I will be arriving on A Thursday night at about 9pm. I fancy going straight out beaver hunting. Can anyone recommend anywhere good near the hotel. Preferrably non pro action but semi pro or pro will do if need be.
Any info will be much appreciated. Thanks
well, maybe Aguasblancas or Mojica (slums) are worse.
Not sure why you choose thatHotel (yes I believe it is guest friendly, though the closest I have been is the Italian Restaurant out frront) unless you are going on a marriage agency trip.
If you want to spend that kind of money, the Sofitel, Sheraton and Dann are all WAY better. I like the Torre de Cali and Plaza Versailles better too, but they are cheaper than IC.
Thursday night is happening. Go hit the bars on Avenida Sexta or the Casa de Cerveza. ATMs are the way to go BUT withdrawal limit varies from bank to bank. Bancolombia is best as it gives 400K per withdrawal (most others have 300K limit). NEVER use 200K ATMs (RIPOFF!)
You are going at a great time as the festival is going to be in full swing.
Cachaca Lover
12-01-05, 04:31
The Intercontiental is girl friendly insofar as it allows you to bring a guest to your room, but they will add an extra charge on to the bill for the additional occupancy. Never had a probelm there.
Thunderthrust
12-01-05, 20:49
Cheers Chacha and Surfer,
I was quoted 82 US$ a night for the Intercontinental and having heard good things about it, thought that was reasonable but I will check out your other suggestions.
Have got a few more Q s if anyone can be arsed answering them. I ve looked through the last 30 pages or so but cant find the answers.
What tme do things start happening in la sexta? Are there any bars in particular I should concentrate on? I assume getting a taxi on the street at the end of the night will be no problem? As far as the dress code is concerned do you reckon that I ll be OK with smart T shirt and jeans with no jewellery?
Thanks guys
You can dress more casual but will definitely attract more attention if you look upscale in your dress. Avoid jewelry (so as to not to attract unwanted atention). Later is better in Cali. If your Spanishg is good, try the disco in Torre de cali (particularly convenient if you stay there) Hint.
Thunderthrust
12-03-05, 20:26
Thanks v much for that Surfer. Much appreciated. I looked a bit further back and found some helpful posts from you, Ricker and Slick1 amongst others. Cant wait to get there now. Bearing in mind what you say about clothes, I ll probably take a couple of suits now. If anybody is interested in going out on the sniff for some non pro action then feel free to give me a shout. I m 33 and like nothing better than going out for a few cold ones and putting my tackle out there to see what bites. I dare say I would muddle through on my own but its always good to have a similarly minded wing man. I ll be there from mid Jan for a couple of weeks.
Cheers
You don't want to look too much like you are on business, but just VERY nice slacks, long sleeved shirt, belt etc.; also, don't worry about cool clothing as most clubs have good AC. They are very into shoes too (antifreeze always lectures me about not wearing my sandals in Cali, but I am rarely looking for new girls in Cali as I already have more than I can handle so I wear my flipflops anyway).
Master Monger
12-04-05, 18:33
Hey Guys,
I am in a great mood because I am starting my next adventure in 36 hours so instead of telling you to RTFF I will tell you again some awesome tips for newbies! :-)
EXCELLENT TIPS:
HOTELS
My recommendation is to stay 2 or 3 days at www.calihotel.com it is the Hostal San Fernando. Why, well Rigo is an excellent contact to have in Cali and he is the owner and spending $100 on his hotel to make his friendship is the most intelligent $100 you will ever spend. Also there are ALWAYS mongers staying at his hotel so you can make a friend and a wingman to help you explore the city. Rigo can also always help you with any question or anything you need, also he can probably hook you up with a cellphone. Once you have your bearings then I too would recommend the place Surfer recommended "Torre de Cali" it is WAY better than IC.
AVE SEXTA
The girls are in between Olympica Grocery and the clubs that start off on the most North part of Ave. 6. The best time for trolling is after 9pm up until 3am MAX. AT around 9-10pm there is about 15 girls total on the weekdays and about 40 on Friday and Saturday. The younger and hotter ones hang closer to the clubs on Ave 6, and the black ones hang out real close to Studio 54.
Any girls you see on other streets are umm...not girls!
DONT BRING CASH TO COLOMBIA
I wish the regular Colombia posters would have posted this more often. Use you ATM card because the government charges 16% I.V.A. tax to exchange dollars for pesos where if you use your card you will only pay the ATM fee.
Great restaurants in Cali:
Lenos & Carbon in every major Mall - GREAT MEAT for about $7 a person
Crepes & Waffles - Everywhere in Cali and good - about $6 or $7 a person
La Papa on Ave. 6 around 20 next to Karens Pizza - about $6-$7 a person
Noche Del Rio on Ave 4 Oeste #01-109 Barrio Granada about $8 a person
Cali Viejo - Any taxi driver knows - About $10 a person
Maki - I know this sounds crazy but, GREAT SUSHI and it is located two blocks east of the Parque Del Penon in the north, but it costs at least $15 a person.
Tezones - Ave 8 Norte #29 on the corner - Awesome but about $15 a person
Tutti Sappori - Two places down from Tezones - ITALIAN - $15 a person
Colombia is Great, Have Fun and Good Luck!
Master Monger
Regulr Travlr
12-05-05, 01:25
My wingman, Spidermonkey, and I have Colombia as our next target. Your summary report is very helpful and is going in my pre trip planning file.
Your comment on money is important. This is something that should be included in reports. I had a section on money in my after action report for Panama.
Starting up my Spanish right after the holidays to get ready.
Travlr
I, too, am in a great mood as I leave for Saigon in 48 hours!
Good post MM (though I do not know that Hostal or Rigo).
You omit one of my favorite places to eat in Cali, Karen's Pizza (several branches but my regular one is next to Blockbuster Video on the Sexta). Very good pizzas, but I always have the lasagne with garlic bread (and a limonade).
Also, Bancolombia ATMs allow 400K withdrawals and are the best, but last couple trips my cards won't work there for some reason so I am limited to 300K per withdrawal. ):
Hey there, just read from another source that muggings are getting horrifically violent in Cali.
They don't even wait for the victim to run or struggle. Robbers are just going up to their target, shooting them then taking everything off the corpse. So far, there have been over 600 deaths reported from violent muggings.
And no, it's not gang-on-gang violence. Can anyone confirm/deny this information?
"wet nose"
i think cali is just like any other city in south america. take your precautions.
two "incidents" i did have in cali:
1) during my lunch in a restaurant in the centre near torre de cali i heard gunshots. before hiding in the kitchen of the restautant i saw a motor cop shooting at a car speeding away. he was aiming to hit. strange was that all trafic in the street just drove on. few minutes after the shooting everything was back to normal.
2) in one place with chicas there were a bunch of loud and badlooking colombians (males). suddenly comes in a guy telling that the police is coming in. in a second everybody disappeared through an alternate exit. kind of panic. after the police went away the guys who disappeared came back. and they took out the guns they had hidden under the seats of the chairs. i went away. don't like the combination of guns, liqor, chicas and shouting at each other.
Luis The Great
12-15-05, 02:02
Plane tickets have been bought. I will be in Cali for the feria. If anybody wants to get together for some activities let me know. I will be with family some times but will be on hunting trips for some calienas.
Master Monger
12-17-05, 20:53
Something I have learned from my travels is that violence rarely accurs towards foreigners in other countries than America. The reasons are quite simple...in the countries we like to visit for P4P, they are usually economically oppressed. So the goverment wants to maintain good relations with the foreign countries, so they impose extra strict penalties when a crime is committed against a foreigner. Usually a criminal has somewhat of a brain to contemplate the risks of his actions, killing or hurting a foreigner carries a heavier penalty and pursuit factor. Therefore he will usually pass on committing a crime against a foreigner.
Having said that let me now say this. If you are stupid, and by stupid I mean walking down dark streets or by dark places that are not well populated then you make it much easier for him to conceal his crime, offsetting the risks. Also I recommend you NEVER get drunk when you are out alone. I don't drink so I have never had any problems and I where a Rolex and a couple of diamond rings but I am always aware of my surroundings and evaluate the risks carefully. If people can see you are more aware, astute and conscience of your surroundings they are also less likely to try something. Never look lost, even when you are, it is like wearing a big "MUG ME" sign.
I wouldn't worry about it too much, you are more likely to have problems in America than Colombia.
Good Luck and Have Fun,
Master Monger
Hello
I would like to rent an appartment in Cali for a couple of days. Anybody having an idea where i can find adds for appartment or anybody knows a contact person?
Forum search didn´t deliver any usfull informations.
Your help is much appreciated.
Thanks,
My way
cali is not the best place for mongering! the quality/price ratio is bad.
if you really have to go then don't stay longer then 5-7 days and be sure to include a weekend in your stay.
the only place that did surpirse me in a positive way in cali was club escoses. it is near the hotel intercontinental. taxidrivers know the place. kind of a nightclub/casa. clean, nice and professional. i do recommend kathy. very nice, sweet and enthousiastic girl.
go to cali if you like:
1) cheap & dirty sex. lots of cheap, but dirty casas with unmotivated, ugly chicas.
2) discos and dancing. by the way: only in the weekend.
3) endless dating before getting nowhere.
here are my facts. all information is "as is".
weather.
i have been told in summer it can get pretty warm. 95-100 °f. in winter that is less. 75-85 °f. in daytime it is a bit humid. evenings and night are comfortable. in winter rain can spoil your day.
transport.
taxis are pretty cheap. for p$ 5,000 (us$ 2.50) you travel from north to south. just as in every other city drivers try to fool you by making extra miles. sometimes i even had to tell the drivers myself which way to go. taxi from the airport to town should cost about p$ 35,0000 (us$ 16). busses are cheaper. price p$ 1,200 (us$ 0.50). take good care you are not going go dangerous quarters. i didn't find any maps with bus-plans. buy yourself a cityplan. on leaving colombia you have to pay exit tax something like us$ 30.
communication.
at least a basic level of spanish is required. not many people speak english. and everybody has a cellphone. exchanging telephone numbers is very popular. get a cellphone too. take one from provider comcel. comcel has the best coverage i have been told.
safety.
i guess cali is just the same as any other south american city. so take your normal precautions. like a moneybelt and things like that. i won't go further into this. find elsewhere on the internet what precautions to take. quarters you certainly should not go to: in centro the quarters san nicolas, el clavario and barrio obrero. the rest of centro is also not safe at night. also don't go to siloe (south, not far from calle 5) and aqua blanco (also south).
two "incidents" i did have in cali:
1) during my lunch in a restaurant in the centre near torre de cali i heard gunshots. before hiding in the kitchen of the restautant i saw a motor cop shooting at a car speeding away. he was aiming to hit. strange was that all trafic in the street just drove on. few minutes after the shooting everything was back to normal.
2) in one place with chicas there were a bunch of loud and badlooking colombians (males). suddenly comes in a guy telling that the police is coming in. in a second everybody disappeared through an alternate exit. kind of panic. after the police went away the guys who disappeared came back. and they took out the guns they had hidden under the seats of the chairs. i went away. don't like the combination of guns, liqor, chicas and shouting at each other.
accomodation.
as a first timer stay in the north of cali near 6th avenue (la sexta). north of the river. pretty secure and close to where all other gringos stay. there is a big reconstrution going on in the city. big traffic jam during rush hours. difficult to get to the north if you are not staying there. when i was in cali (in winter) i had no problem finding a hotel. it is a buyer market. during december and special during the feria of cali it can be different. places:
* hotel don jaime. ave 6 15n-25. p$ 101,000 (us$ 45) guest an extra p$ 26,000 (us$ 12). save area. take a room in the back (no streetnoice). helpfull staff.
* aparthotel montecarlo. calle 22n 5n-15. p$ 70,000 - 85,000 (us$ 31 - 38). no extra charge for guests. 3 blocks from la sexta. pretty secure area. bit neglected and the airco in the living room was just not sufficient in daytime. but for the rest ok. helpfull staff.
* apartahotel plaza real. ave 2n 21n-99. p$ 60,000 - 80,000 (us$ 27 - 35). no extra charge for guests. a bit far away from la sexta (7 blocks). but very close near the casas. i liked the the rooms very much. helpfull staff.
* apartahotel del rio. ave 2n 21n-05. p$ 86,000 (us$ 38) for 1 person. p$96,000 (us$ 42) for 2 persons. if you have a guest it is possible to upgrade to 2 persons. a bit far away from la sexta (7 blocks). but very close near the casas. i liked plaze real better.
* hotel granada real. ave 8n 15an-31. p$ 92.400 (us$ 41). pretty save area. i didn't like the rooms. but heard from another guy that he liked to stay there.
* hotel nevada. ave 8a 14n-15. pretty save area. i disliked the place.
touristic things.
* la sexta (= avenida 6) for going out. remember: cali is a party city. you have to love partying. not much other things to do/see. on weekdays it is pretty boring in cali.
* places/bars: london bar ave 6an 25-44, prada, mr mojito ave 5bn 25n-40, mystica, martyns 6a with 22. also check out the avenidas parallel to la sexta. ave 6a and 8. other bars: tienda vieja. a bar i heard that is good place for meeting "non-pros". i have no idea where it is. ask a taxidriver. and the bar down in torre de cali. by the way torre de cali is a big skyscraper in the middle of cali. biggest buildings there.
* centro commerciales (shopping malls). nice for picking up dates. chipichape. in the north at the end of ave 6. cosmocentro. in the south and close to that palmetto. unicentro, also in the south.
* centro, accross ave 6th near the church la ermita, is a nice area for cheap shopping. buy some cheap cd's, clothes etcetera. only in daytime. don't go there at night.
* tres crusez. three crosses on a mountain top. costs p$ 20,000 (us$ 9) to go and return by taxi.
* cristo rey. a christ statue on a mountain top. costs p$ 20,000 (us$ 9) to go and return by taxi.
* the zoo. called zoologico. not that fascinating. but well, what else can you do on a rainy day. think it costs about p$ 6,000 (us$ 3) to get in.
* quarter san antonio, the plaza and parque near the church. in the weekend on a saterday or sunday afternoon/evening. great place for relaxing. the best place i found in cali. take a date with you. no entrance fee.
* torre de cali. you can get on top of the highest building for p$ 4,000 (us$ 2). nice for taking pictures.
* juanchito. i didn't visit juanchito the famous disco area just outside town. i wouldn't go alone to that area (safety) and couldn't find a reliable guide.
food.
the food is no good. first few days the empanadas (a kind of chicken meat) tastes good. but after a few days you get really bored with all the fried food. beer: poker (4%) and brava (5%) are ok.
women.
i personnaly am not fond of the physics of the calenas. they don't have nice slim bodies or attractive features in the face all women have the custom of wearing thight, low cut jeans. but maybe only 10% of them do have the figure for it. lots of bellies and love handles hanging over. guess it comes from eating too much empanadas. furthermore most of the girls have indian features in their face. not my style. strange is that in all casas you have to pay in advance before you take the girls with you. don't like that.
1) dating.
if you like dating girls as in highschool then you definitly have to go to cali.in my opinion this dating costs you a lot of money and time while getting nowhere. it is dating, dating and dating and then maybe maybe maybe in the end you maybe could have sex. well i like it the other way around. first have sex and then maybe maybe maybe i will take her out on a date. i found itamazing how many gringo were trying to impress girls by bying them drinks. but well, if you want to re-experience you highschool time then go ahead. if you like dating try to establish contacts before you go. amigos.com, latinamericancupid.com, etcetera, etcetera. it is pretty easy to get telephone numbers from chicas in the street. much much easier then back home. also age difference is not a big deal in dating. i dated girls who's mothers were 10 years younger then me. just out of curiousity i visited a marriage agency. allcolombiangirls.com. chipichape 2nd floor-206. pretty expensive. something like us$ 450 for one year and us$ 250 for one week membership.
2) club escoses.
it is near the hotel intercontinental. every taxidriver knows the place. a kind of a nightclub/casa. clean, nice and professional. the only place in cali where i felt completly secure. the quality top segment of the chicas is 7.5. girls were very nice and sweet. what a change and what a surpise! i do recommend kathy. very nice, sweet and enthousiastic girl. prices were fair: for one hour p$ 40,000 (us$ 18) for the house and p$ 110,000 (us$ 48) for the girl.
3) flores frescas (=fresh flowers).
calle 20n 4n-16. every taxidriver knows this place. some kind of combination of nightclub/casa. looks a bit better then the normal casas but still a bit dodgy. qualtiy of the top-segment of the chicas: 7.0. at about 10:30 pm they have a nice show in which all the chicas go topless. after that there is a lesbian dildo show. entrance: p$ 15,000 (us$ 7). prices for the chicas: 0.5 hour p$ 130,000 (us$ 57), 1.0 hour p$ 180,000 (us$ 80), to take to your hotel: p$ 60,000 (us$ 26) for the house and p$ 150,000 - 200,000 (us$ 65 - 88) for the chica. i found that the chicas in flores frescas had an attitude problem. like: "you are lucky you may fuck me". beside that these prices are way too high. so my answer was no.
4) millenium.
i have heard about this club but i couldn't find the place. in my hotel the porter (who had a lot of good advices) had heard about it but he didn't know the adress. also three taxidrivers i did ask didn't know where it was. supposed to be near the soccer stadium. but well, i didn't feel like looking in the night in the south of cali for a club.
5) casas.
the casas are cheap but dirty. so take your own towel with you! also a lot of casas on the outside just look like normal houses. sometimes a bit difficult to discover. just ask a taxidriver to drive you around town in daytime for an excursion on casas. a taxi ride costs you p$ 19,000 (us$ 9) per hour. the casas are populated with unmotivated girls although there are few exceptions. in no casa i felt 100% save. the guys that supervise the casas don't know how to handle tourists. here are some adresses.
* calle 23an 2n-95 san vincente. near torre de cali. every day from 10am till 8pm. prettiest girls i did see in casas. price for one hour p$ 40,000 (us$ 18).
i do recommend ariana. good service.
* also near torre de cali in ave 2an near rio cali is farahon. every taxidriver knows this place. av 2an, open at night.
* dr amor / dr love. every taxidriver know this place. av 2an 23n-37 23n-42. everyday from 9am till 8pm. price for one hour p$ 38,000 (us$ 17).
* casa at ave 2an 24n-61. at nights.
* ave 2an 24n-63 9am - 7pm.
* ave 2an 24n-105, every day 9am - 2am.
* ave 2bis, also in north of cali: playmates room and ave 2bis norte 34-61 one hour p$ 57,000 (us$ 25).
* ave 2bis norte 34-55, one hour p$ 50,000 (us$ 22).
* south in cali. calle 13 nr 72-25. av pasoanco. piso 2 (2nd floor). friendly women supervisors. 1 hour p$ 38.000 (us$ 17), ask for nicole.
* dinas. also south cra 50 10-31 (south). unfriendly supervisors.
* cupido's club, autopista sur no 65a-28b (south).
* cra 44 no. 5b-79 (south). etcetera, etcetara.
* beware for casa marineras. this is a casa near la sexta. when you walk la sexta guys try to pull you to the place. don't go. it is expensive. twice the normal rates. and the girls are ugly.
6) websites and newspaper: i have no experience. all i remember is website kaliente.com. look in the newspaper el pais in the announcements for other websites, casas and pros.
7) streethookers. i saw some on la sexta near the crossing with calle 23. everybody in cali warned me against these girls. hard too handle. drugs. diseases.
Luis The Great
12-24-05, 07:37
This is a very informative report , I will add some stuff to my master game plan for next weeks visit.
Thanks!
I do my Pros in Bogota because that is where my inlaws live and when Dip out I do not have time to bs. And do not wish to foul my nest there.
I have MILFS in BAQ and Cali IMO the milfs are primo stuff. I dont want to generalize or offend here but many men in Colombia like to trade in their wives for a newer model leaving the milf at home in the weeds. These women have taken some shit usually and are grateful for a man that treats them nice. Mucho amor en la cama con gusto.
I have played the young Calena scene and I think it sucks, I'm 48 and the young girls just by the large part want to use me for $$ and try not to give it up, most of them have boyfriends anyway and are just playing the older guys or may do a little semi-pro on the side if approached in the right way.
FIDO hit it on the head, I do not particularly care for Cali either I prefer BAQ or the best yet for non pro hunters and semi-pros is never mentioned here.
Manizales, Pereira, Quindio..Oh my lord the girls there are a different breed altogether. Most of the Colombians are aware of the reputation of Pereira women, I am not sure if it is true but I will say that I have met 3 different women on 3 occasions in the street or stores and nailed them on the first date. One girl even came to get me to go to dinner and 10 minutes later we were rutting like weasels.
Lost In Paradise
01-09-06, 18:53
Hello all.. I fianally found the perfect city in Colombia thanks to luis [ english speaking ] who lives in Armenia.. I was met by Luis at Cali airport who i never met before except by many phone calls. The next morning we hop a bus 3 hours away to Armenia.The fun begins here starting with his friend owning a jeep who i hire for 5 days 50k plus gas a day. the first order of business finding the nearest *****houses in Armenia. The going rate is 30- 50k for the girls here. most of the rooms i saw were unfit for sex so opted for chicas phone #s f6r sex in my hotel. 60k was the going rate..Luis found me a nice hotel near his apartment 40k anite, chica friendly, no extra charge. Those headed to Cali you can phone luis at 57 315 421 8925. I promise you the best time having Luis show you the city of Armenia... very safe area,,friendly people.. untouched by gringos..
After I returned from Cali found the bussinesscard of the following club:
NOVA-NOVA
Discoteca-Cabaret
Pretty Girls
Cra 15 No 33h-15 Cali(Col)
Anyone knows this place? How is it?
i'm just finishing a 9 day trip to cali. i don't have any info about the beautiful women to add, but here's a few tips about hotels and cars.
if you want a gringo hotel close to the action, i'll recommend sheraton. it's amazingly close to flora frescas, has free high speed internet, a great free breakfast buffet, and is $75 per night if purchased in advance. yes, that's expensive for colombia, but i think it kills the intercontinental. there are plenty of great colombian hotels for half that price, but in my experience, i haven't found one with a good internet connection, reliable ac, and reliable hot water. plus, sign-up for starwood points and get a free night every now and then.
about cars...there's a rumor that a gringo recently got in a taxi on sexta which met up with another taxi which held him at gunpoint and took him to atm's. i didn't put much faith in this rumor as i've been taking taxis in cali for 5 years and never have met a problem. however, on this trip i had two highly suspious events. on taxi driver headed in the right direction, but was going very slow and seemed to be whispering on his cell phone. both extremely suspcious in my experience. i threw him 5 mil and got out at the first opportunity without saying anything. second, i told a drive to go sheraton and he made two wrong turns (we were headed in the opposite direction of sheraton) while talking on his cell phone. i did the same thing (5 mil and bye bye). i don't know for sure what was going on, but be very aware when you take taxis in cali. it's best to call for a taxi if you can (the agency records the info about the trip).
is sheraton gf and how for is it from ave 6?
i want to spend us $ 50-75 per night. kindly recommend me a hotel close to action.
looking forward to hear from you.
i'm just finishing a 9 day trip to cali. i don't have any info about the beautiful women to add, but here's a few tips about hotels and cars.
if you want a gringo hotel close to the action, i'll recommend sheraton. it's amazingly close to flora frescas, has free high speed internet, a great free breakfast buffet, and is $75 per night if purchased in advance. yes, that's expensive for colombia, but i think it kills the intercontinental. there are plenty of great colombian hotels for half that price, but in my experience, i haven't found one with a good internet connection, reliable ac, and reliable hot water. plus, sign-up for starwood points and get a free night every now and then.
Kdog, about the gringo being kidnapped. Do see: http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/16100
You gotta follow your instincts with taxistas (though I have never had a problem in Colombia, knock on wood). You CERTAINLyYwant to always have some $$ to give up if you are robbed (at least a 20,000 peso note stashed somewhere)..
Kdog told me Sheraton adds a $10 guest fee even for ST visitors. Don Jaime started this guestfee BS too and lost my business because of it.
Kdog told me Sheraton adds a $10 guest fee even for ST visitors. Don Jaime started this guestfee BS too and lost my business because of it.
We should all boycott hotels who charge extra for our fine guests.
So besides Sheraton and Don Jaime what else is close by to Ave 6 action in US $ 50-75 range.
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