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Mr Enternational
03-25-07, 04:12
so the overwhelming majority of these girls in such places WILL "act poorly". There is little to no incentive for them to act OTHERWISE.
in places like Rio and Bangkok and some other places there IS incentive for them to act otherwise, since the clientele is foreign, pays more, and that´s what the clientele wants, not to mention they can sometimes reel in a "BOYFRIEND" who stupidly sends them money regularly or even from time to time.To me it's good to have the GFE or at least someone that is the least bit sociable or is good at acting like they are enjoying themselves. All in all, that is why I have to give Bangkok the #1 spot as far as the mongering scene. #2 I give to Rio. Bangkok is first because the magnitude of the scence there is just astronomical, whereas Rio is really just Help, a couple of termas, and Meia Pataca. I do, however, tell people that once you have been to Rio in the western hemisphere and Bangkok in the eastern hemisphere there is no reason to go anywhere else. You will only be cheating yourself and wasting your time and money.
I think the worst placethat I have mongered is Guyaquill. The first two girls I had were drop dead gorgeous. But the first one just layed there not moving with a blank stare on her face. I said fuck it, just keep the money, I am leaving. The second one did not want to take her shirt off and insisted on playing with her cellphone the whole time I was trying to fuck. We pretty much argued the whole time. Then I moved to some work that was bottom of the barrel and things got a little better. I have had the same experience in Colombia, where it is very mechanical and the girl wants to be in total control of everything to your dissatisfaction...eg. no doggy style, no bj, you can not push inside of me that far...
Escort King
03-25-07, 08:32
He isn't planning on going to Cali, but Medellin. If you go to the Medellin reports, you will see he has being saying that for quite some time. He just seems to post all over the place.
Yes I have been talking about going to Medellin for over a year now... but in that time have been to the DR twice and Amsterdam once... played in London and NY, Miami, Chicago and California...
Apart from the trip to Colombia next Friday I am back in London, and have two trips to France before the end of the year.
I am an active monger, just because I have not been to Colombia yet does not mean I do not have opinions of general conversation.... guess my trip report from next week will be as well read as my comments....
there are a few people on the boards here that know me... I don't need anyone's approval - I ask questions when I need to an help where I can.
i know matrix and other internet places in cali are cheap, but if you need to use your own computer, then these places are difficult to use at best. here is a free high speed wireless option i found near sexta (the only free wireless in cali according to www.jiwire.com):
blue amigos restaurant, cafe & bar
calle 15n. 6n-33
cali
location type: restaurant
802.11b wi-fi
(http://www.jiwire.com/search-wifi-hotspots.htm?city_id=3453300)
i haven't tried it yet, so i can't comment on the quality of the signal or if it really is free.
and based on your list clearly know almost nothing about screwing around in the developing world. It´s quite different, or can be quite different and frankly it´s that difference that makes the lure for guys who refuse to play, even though many can afford to in the developed world.
the handle is a giveaway too. Escorts? haha.
well, I wish you luck.
Mr. E - it IS possible to get a get over the hump and get a GFE or something approaching that, or just a good professional but raunchy Brazilian style experience in Colombia and most other places. However, it does take a little work, a little luck and a little perserverance. (you can even get a nice experience with a casa girl though the environment makes that very challenging)
that´s why it´s so funny to hear these complaints from people who refuse to put in any of the above and merely whine. (not to mention some might look and or act like complete trolls)
the most fascinating thing about a place like Cali is that in these semi nasty stick and poke assembly line mills you hve young often beautiful girls, whereas in most other places you´re stuck with old fugly hags.
for me the youth and beauty cannot quite overcome the assembly line experience, I´d rather have a great session with a willing 6, than a starfish experience with a 9.
clearly some people feel differently.
Escort King
03-25-07, 23:43
and based on your list clearly know almost nothing about screwing around in the developing world. It´s quite different, or can be quite different and frankly it´s that difference that makes the lure for guys who refuse to play, even though many can afford to in the developed world.
the handle is a giveaway too. Escorts? haha.
well, I wish you luck.
Mr. E - it IS possible to get a get over the hump and get a GFE or something approaching that, or just a good professional but raunchy Brazilian style experience in Colombia and most other places. However, it does take a little work, a little luck and a little perserverance. (you can even get a nice experience with a casa girl though the environment makes that very challenging)
that´s why it´s so funny to hear these complaints from people who refuse to put in any of the above and merely whine. (not to mention some might look and or act like complete trolls)
the most fascinating thing about a place like Cali is that in these semi nasty stick and poke assembly line mills you hve young often beautiful girls, whereas in most other places you´re stuck with old fugly hags.
for me the youth and beauty cannot quite overcome the assembly line experience, I´d rather have a great session with a willing 6, than a starfish experience with a 9.
clearly some people feel differently.
Escort King is the screenname I had when I first started on monger boards which were US based... though I soon found WSG et al and have posted there over the years.
Have worked in the adult industry, traveled alot through southeast asia, the pacific when growing up in Australia....
I have been posting in the Colombian threads as it has been a spot I knew I was visiting in the near future.... wanted to develop some online acquaintences that I may have seen while there... and thought the threads were generally friendly... have not been involved in flames... have given my opinion on few things, rather asked questions or praise or jokes....
You've become quite the expert on Cali after your first trip.
We lose one Colombia know-it-all and he is replaced by another.
All, I just got back from a week in Cali and thought I'd post my experiences.
The spots I hit:
- escoses(sp?)- went at night, left after an hour. Lots of Women, prices were, I believe: 150k for 30 min, 250k for 1 hour. ~ 30 ladies, a few 10s.
- Frescas Flores (fresh flowers) - lots of fine (and "fake") babes, boob jobs etc. most expensive: 200k for 30 min, 300k for 1 hour. Their main offering is a lesbian sex show 2-3 times a night. All the guys were so focused during the show, you probably could have taken their wallets and no one would have noticed! They also charged a cover, about 15k, I believe. Left there early, headed to.
- pharos - crowd from fresh flowers seemed to follow us there. Seemed livelier. about 20 or so girls. You could see the degradation in quality (and prices) compared to fresh flowers. Rooms were less clean. Better "party" atmosphere. The ladies would dance with/for you, seemed more into the clientele. Only place I've seen where there were legitimate "dogs" that worked there.
- Casa de Docto de Amor - yep, liked this place. Closes at 9pm or so. Clean rooms, reasonable prices; about $12.50 (U.S. cost, though paid in pesos) for 30 min.
- Went to a place listed in the forum here. There were 5 girls there, they were sleeping. The manager gave us the name of another place close by. Told us to go there, and come back to his place after 6pm. I don't recall the address/name of the other place. It was a house and only had 5 girls there. But, they were all nice looking and very friendly. price was 70k for 30 minutes, 100k for 1 hour.
- Hit about 3-4 others, don't recall their names.
Restaurants:
- Sol (?) - great fried calimari
- Tizones (sp) - great Italian Food
Couple of other notes;
- We hit Jala Jala, damn the music is loud in these places! We were treated like VIPS. We left to eat, came back an hour later and our booth was held for us, even though the place was packed!
- River Ponces - visited on Sunday, seems like a big hangout for the locals. Not much to see compared to other beaches I've been to worldwide, but something to do.
- Malls - hit Chipe Chape (sp), and Cosmo Centro - interesting places. Great to "girl watch".
- Trying to talk to the ladies on the street was more difficult than I expected. When I'd speak, they just kept focused looking ahead.
Have others noticed this as well?
Same with those walking in the malls. The best shots we had at talking to the locals were: ladies at a bar, ones that worked in the stores/restaurants. Also, if I had a legitimate "ice breaker" question, like "where is so and so place located?" it's be easier to strike up a conversation.
- Also, we were told to be careful talking to ladies that had one or more guys with them as the guys could try to cause trouble. In Jala Jala, there were virtually NO ladies by themselves, or in a group with no guys. So, we were less apt to approach them. Based on what I've read by others, we may have been a bit more paranoid than need be.
- I'm not a fan of Colombian beer, but I could tolerate Brava (and sometimes Poker).
- Getting out of Columbia was an experience! We hit, I'd guess, about 9 "checkpoints". Answered every question you could imagine: "do you have a girlfriend? Why not? Why are you here? One of our group also got a "modern-day cavity search": they x-rayed his stomach, I guess to see if he had swallowed any "contraband".
Overall:
- Had a good time. It's best if you speak some spanish, no question. The people are some of the nicest I've encountered in my travels. We had no problems. When you connect with a Chica the experience is wonderful, usually better, more genuine with a non-pro.
If others are interested in the specific places I mentioned but don't recall, PM me and I'll try and get the details to you.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Escort King is the screenname I had when I first started on monger boards which were US based... though I soon found WSG et al and have posted there over the years.
Have worked in the adult industry, traveled alot through southeast asia, the pacific when growing up in Australia....
I have been posting in the Colombian threads as it has been a spot I knew I was visiting in the near future.... wanted to develop some online acquaintences that I may have seen while there... and thought the threads were generally friendly... have not been involved in flames... have given my opinion on few things, rather asked questions or praise or jokes....
I bear you no ill will and hope you find what you are looking for, though it is my definite opinion you are wading into completely uncharted waters based on what you are used to and also, I hate to be frank, but it´s the likes of you who generally screw up a heretofore friendly developing world P4P environment.
let me guess, your first stop in MDG will be the so called "mansion", created uniquely for your type of ahem "traveler", and typically a bane of destruction for the favorable P4P environment first discovered by travelers in the last decade in these countries.
in other friendly local news, today´s El Pais has the Colombian Minister of Defense saying that FARC after their failures in and around Bogota, has now set their eyes on Cali, but swears the govt will not allow them to establish a foothold here. Perhaps the FARC can blow up the so called Cali Mansion when it´s built
in other news of note, if you´re a calena university student with English skills there are lots of ads for you to make good money (by local standards) by video chatting to idiot extranjeros.
For me the youth and beauty cannot quite overcome the assembly line experience, I´d rather have a great session with a willing 6, than a starfish experience with a 9.Hi Catire, I agree 1000% with that.
Problem is, how do you know if this 6 is good or not ?
I´ve been looking thru this Cali's board and couldn´t find much information on girls.
Now, imagine you go with a 6 (or 5, or worse) and it goes badly.
You then have a double disillusion.
That's why most people want to have a good looking partner.+
In recent months, I've tried to catch smiling girlS and had good and bad experiences.
Unfortunatly, in Colombia, we don't have a girls's speaking board. (see my precedent post).
Thanks
Escort King
03-26-07, 13:39
I bear you no ill will and hope you find what you are looking for, though it is my definite opinion you are wading into completely uncharted waters based on what you are used to and also, I hate to be frank, but it´s the likes of you who generally screw up a heretofore friendly developing world P4P environment.
let me guess, your first stop in MDG will be the so called "mansion", created uniquely for your type of ahem "traveler", and typically a bane of destruction for the favorable P4P environment first discovered by travelers in the last decade in these countries.
in other friendly local news, today´s El Pais has the Colombian Minister of Defense saying that FARC after their failures in and around Bogota, has now set their eyes on Cali, but swears the govt will not allow them to establish a foothold here. Perhaps the FARC can blow up the so called Cali Mansion when it´s built
in other news of note, if you´re a calena university student with English skills there are lots of ads for you to make good money (by local standards) by video chatting to idiot extranjeros.
mate I was visiting Bali and Thailand 28 years ago.. and I was not an ugly American.... but an Australian having fun... did not grow up in US but a country where p4p is legal....
and I was not an ugly American....but an Australian having fun
Aaahhhg! What's the difference? They hate you in Indonesia and they hate us in Latin America. And we both have some paisanos that are loud and obnoxious.
Escort King
03-26-07, 20:06
Aaahhhg! What's the difference? They hate you in Indonesia and they hate us in Latin America. And we both have some paisanos that are loud and obnoxious.
Australians can be loud drunks but few have the we own the natives attitude that some Americans bring with them... like the old vision of third world countries in Disney comics... all canibals and servants
Escort King
03-26-07, 22:36
let me guess, your first stop in MDG will be the so called "mansion", created uniquely for your type of ahem "traveler", and typically a bane of destruction for the favorable P4P environment first discovered by travelers in the last decade in these countries.
I was enjoying these offerings in Bali and Thailand long before they became the meccas for the trade... though SE Asia has been in this trade a lot longer than I have been around... the pricing stayed low for a lot of years until the numbers grew to such high numbers that they could start asking more and find enough to pay it... I may not pay the least... but I generally don't overpay - I stick with what has been posted as the going rates and use that as my goal... sometimes I get lower and others if the chica is really hot will pay a little more - especially if she has gotten good reviews by people I trust...
And yes I will make my first stop at the Mansion - best place to hook with others since I am making my trip solo with just a little Spanish.
Hi Catire, I agree 1000% with that.
Problem is, how do you know if this 6 is good or not ?
I´ve been looking thru this Cali's board and couldn´t find much information on girls.
Now, imagine you go with a 6 (or 5, or worse) and it goes badly.
You then have a double disillusion.
That's why most people want to have a good looking partner.+
In recent months, I've tried to catch smiling girlS and had good and bad experiences.
Unfortunatly, in Colombia, we don't have a girls's speaking board. (see my precedent post).
Thanks
the thing is in the world of P4P you rarely know (for sure).
that is because in this "line of work" one´s personal problems and moods are reflected more so than in any other profession. She might be in a bad mood, she might be pmsing, she might have had a fight with her bf or her family or god knows what, and this WILL be reflected in her human interaction with YOU.
then of course there is what you bring into the equation, this also changes the calibrations. A john is not like the next john (even among the local masses pining for 20 mins to stick something into a hole). Your looks and your demeanor and personality DO and WILL matter.
then out of that entire mixture, you will get what you get. it´s as simple as that and nothing can really change it.
that is why I take all "rankings", of girls and forums dealing with such with a MOUNTAIN OF SALT. That´s because they are essentially good for nothing and I basically deem them useless ( as well as somewhat demeaning to the girl - perhaps they should be able to write rankings of their johns as well?)
since you claim your looks are a potential problem (or at least not a helping factor) then you must focus on the personality aspect. You can also work on your charm, this is essentially a combination of being a little clever and paying her compliments (without being too obvious) This is perhaps even more important (though it all depends on the girl). Since you talk about the sexycaracas foro, you must speak at least basic Spanish, and actually since that forum is full of Venezuelan slang, (I spent some time living in Caracas) your understanding of it has to be better than beginner I assume?
but that is not going to work with an "escort" and will be difficult with a casa girl.
in your case I would recommend a place like Escoces, which is a clip joint, BUT, can be a lot of fun and lot less of a clip joint if you follow the "Ricker approach" and recommendations which are actually common sense and should be a modus operandi in any such place worldwide.
nortelx, I know what I know and this is a fairly long stay (and I am still here)
when you learn Spanish and have lived and traveled around Latin America as I have come back and talk shit to me. Otherwise, you are of course always entitled to your own opinions.
... in your case I would recommend a place like Escoces, which is a clip joint, BUT, can be a lot of fun and lot less of a clip joint if you follow the "Ricker approach" and recommendations which are actually common sense and should be a modus operandi in any such place worldwide ...
Escoces can be a great place if you can weed through the "tiburones" (sharks) and find the nice sweet chicas; they can be found there.
Sit with a chica, bond with her, make her laugh, pay the multa, I think it's only 40,000 pesos, and take her out. If you can get away with it, don't even talk price with her. If she doesn't talk about money, she probably likes you, obvious good sign :)
That's my Escoces strategy in a nutshell.
Paying 150-200,000 pesos for 30 minutes in-house ... hahaha ... nunca (never).
Escoces can be a great place if you can weed through the "tiburones" (sharks) and find the nice sweet chicas; they can be found there.
Sit with a chica, bond with her, make her laugh, pay the multa, I think it's only 40,000 pesos, and take her out. If you can get away with it, don't even talk price with her. If she doesn't talk about money, she probably likes you, obvious good sign :)
That's my Escoces strategy in a nutshell.
Paying 150-200,000 pesos for 30 minutes in-house ... hahaha ... nunca (never).
if you stay until they nearly close, then there is no multa/salida to pay.
most will try to charge you say 200K, or 150 for 2 hours but you can get them for a 100 if she needs it/likes you.
the tiburones are fairly easy to spot.
hey, Ricker, if you´re still here, call me.
btw. quote from Escoces girl the other week about most of her customers.
que tristesa (what sadness). She went on to add some stuff beyond that which I forgot but I was chuckling all night.
She was mostly talking about Americans, and she went on to further categorize them by a certain ethnic background.
Said they have an automated hammer approach to lovemaking and "nunca terminan".
that was funny too.
looks like someone´s been watching too many of the Jake Steed/TTBoy etc Latin porn movies and they think these women actually love being drilled senseless.
Catire, I sent you a PM amigo.
I'll be in Cali again on Thursday :)
Escort King
03-28-07, 15:13
if you stay until they nearly close, then there is no multa/salida to pay.
most will try to charge you say 200K, or 150 for 2 hours but you can get them for a 100 if she needs it/likes you.
the tiburones are fairly easy to spot.
hey, Ricker, if you´re still here, call me.
btw. quote from Escoces girl the other week about most of her customers.
que tristesa (what sadness). She went on to add some stuff beyond that which I forgot but I was chuckling all night.
She was mostly talking about Americans, and she went on to further categorize them by a certain ethnic background.
Said they have an automated hammer approach to lovemaking and "nunca terminan".
that was funny too.
looks like someone´s been watching too many of the Jake Steed/TTBoy etc Latin porn movies and they think these women actually love being drilled senseless.
One thing I have noticed about Latin women - in DR and Mexico - though less in Mexico - they get offended when you don't cum... they always want the leche
Gents,
A week in Cali does a monger good. It also makes for alot of make up reading upon return since I don't bother with the boards while on vacation anymore.
It behooves me to to add a comment on the Cali Reports since I am just back from one of the most successful trips to Cali to date.
I decided to seek out and find new unchartered P4P places and found three new ones that more than satisfied me. One had real hardworking girls giving BBBJ and ball licking as regular service rather than the exception. The other had hot and cold running water (a rarity a P4P places) and the facilities were exceptionally clean and the above average girls surprisingly were not used to seeing a gringos. I had never had girls be so friendly and such a fast pace as well.
I'M SORRY GENTS, but because of the rapid degradation of places I write about by disrespecting *******es, I have reserves about being blatant as to the locations my new found digs. Oh sure anyone else can find them with some due diligence and so they won't remain fairly unknown for long but I don't see the need to bring them to light sooner than not.
However, as anything in life, there are exceptions and since my good friend Ricker mentions that he will returning to Cali soon I will be happy to share the info with him since he did me the same favor once before. So PM me Ricker if think you'll have time to pull yourself away from your novia to thread some new waters.
Ok, I do feel bad that I am not being so open so I will tell you that I also visited a few favorite haunts and also found some top choice chamas.
I still will not be posting in the photo section but I'll share with you here a WILD girl I met at LA Piscina from Armenia. Her name is Melissa.
I didn't even ask Melissa to take her picture before she asked me when she saw I had a camera and she wanted to be shot doing her strip routine. Got some decent video as well.
I decided to try out Melissa and found her to be a lot less energetic than her performance on stage. Still it was a treat to enjoy her large natural breasts and this was the first time I was ever with a girl who had areolas but almost no nipples??? Wow does she have a hot body and cute face to match. She is the closest thing I have found to a Brigitte Bardot look alike.
Again, sorry that I have such reserves about sharing but like I said, the locations will be revealed sooner than later.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Does anybody have any other details?
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'Sexy' Latina site entrepreneur slain By FRANK BAJAK, Associated Press Writer
Sun Apr 1, 1:09 AM ET
BOGOTA, Colombia - An American entrepreneur who introduced foreign men to "young, sexy, exotic and beautiful Latin Women" via the Internet was killed in the western city of Cali by gunmen on a motorcycle, police said Saturday.
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Robert Marshall Vignola, 50, of Hamden, Conn., says on the Web site http://www.latinwomenconnection.com that he founded the Cali, Colombia-based company in 1999. The site says the company "has assisted hundreds of clients in the search for the Latin Woman of their dreams."
In addition to offering contact with women pictured in bikinis for $20 each, the Web site promoted vacation packages to Cali including a "private tour" accompanied by Vignola for $600 per day plus airfare.
The site also sold a book penned by Vignola entitled "Secrets of Romancing Latin Women." It describes Latin females as "the type of women that make a man's heart race, blood boil and libido accelerate into overdrive."
Vignola was shot and killed Thursday night by two men on a motorcycle while driving to Cali's airport, police said. His 33-year-old Colombian wife, Beatriz Ramos, was hospitalized with bullet wounds in the shoulder.
Cali's police chief, Gen. Alberto Moore, told The Associated Press on Saturday that authorities did not know why he was killed but had ruled out robbery.
Cali, home to Colombia's dominant cocaine cartel in the 1990s, remains among the country's most violent cities.
In addition to the "matrimonial service," Vignola had a casino in Cali that went bankrupt, leaving him with considerable debts, Moore said. "So it's said that possibly people could have been demanding money, and he didn't pay and so they took this reprisal."
Moore said Vignola had financial problems in the United States but said he had no details.
Relatives of Vignola in Connecticut, where according to his personal Web site he practiced law and offered assistance in obtaining mortgages, would not comment.
"We're in mourning right now so please don't bother us," said a man who answered the phone at Vignola's father's home.
A friend of Vignola in Cali who spoke on condition he not be identified said Vignola only visited the city three or four times a year.
The Web site describes Vignola as its "former owner and original founder" and recounts how he met his wife in Colombia after deciding he had "almost no chance of finding the woman of my dreams here in the United States."
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AP Writer Carlos Gonzalez in Bogota contributed to this report.
If you must wake up in the U.S., its great to open your eyes and see that "Cube" has posted some pictures. Before I click on them, I can be guaranteed that they are of very high quality. God I would hate to travel with this guy, Our taste is so similar that I feel I have been to these places!
Master Yoda
04-01-07, 15:23
Hi people,
I just heard from a friend in Cali that some gringo died this week. Can someone confirm.
His name is Robert Vignola.
Hi people,
I just heard from a friend in Cali that some gringo died this week. Can someone confirm.
His name is Robert Vignola.
Yeah, I read about this yesterday on MSNBC dot com. Sounds like it wasn't a random act of violence, although it usually isn't. It says here the guy charged $600 a day for his private tour, yet had "financial problems". I guess the moral of the story is, if you're going to run a business in South America, pay back your creditors in a timely fashion.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17893261/
Matchmaking American killed in Colombia
Man who ran site touting ‘sexy, exotic’ Latin women gunned down in street
BOGOTA, Colombia - An American entrepreneur who introduced foreign men to “young, sexy, exotic and beautiful Latin Women” via the Internet was killed in the western city of Cali by gunmen on a motorcycle, police said Saturday.
Robert Marshall Vignola, 50, of Hamden, Conn., claimed he created the Web site www.latinwomenconnection.com. The Cali, Colombia-based company, in business since 1999, claimed it “has assisted hundreds of clients in the search for the Latin Woman of their dreams.”
In addition to offering contact with women pictured in bikinis for $20 each, the Web site promoted vacation packages to Cali including a “private tour” accompanied by Vignola for $600 per day plus airfare.
The site also sold a book penned by Vignola entitled “Secrets of Romancing Latin Women.” It describes Latin females as “the type of women that make a man’s heart race, blood boil and libido accelerate into overdrive.”
Vignola was shot and killed Thursday night by two men on a motorcycle while driving to Cali’s airport, police said. His 33-year-old Colombian wife, Beatriz Ramos, was hospitalized with bullet wounds in the shoulder.
Police rule out robbery
Cali’s police chief, Gen. Alberto Moore, told The Associated Press on Saturday that authorities did not know why he was killed but had ruled out robbery.
Cali, home to Colombia’s dominant cocaine cartel in the 1990s, remains among the country’s most violent cities.
In addition to the “matrimonial service,” Vignola had a casino in Cali that went bankrupt, leaving him with considerable debts, Moore said. “So it’s said that possibly people could have been demanding money, and he didn’t pay and so they took this reprisal.”
Moore said Vignola had financial problems in the United States but said he had no details.
Relatives of Vignola in Connecticut, where according to his personal Web site he practiced law and offered assistance in obtaining mortgages, would not comment.
“We’re in mourning right now so please don’t bother us,” said a man who answered the phone at Vignola’s father’s home.
A friend of Vignola in Cali who spoke on condition he not be identified said Vignola only visited the city three or four times a year.
Vignola’s personal testimonial on the Web, which describes him as its “former owner and original founder,” recounts how he met his wife in Colombia after deciding he had “almost no chance of finding the woman of my dreams here in the United States.”
Master Yoda
04-01-07, 17:56
Well I don't see any reason for me to go to Colombia anytime soon as there are so many Colombians here in the states. I found the best connection to colombians living in the states ever. Why go to colombia when colombia can come to you? We go there for the de-americanized latin women not the ones that could have been infected with the feminazi virus in America. Most of the Latin women in the US are americanized and wouldnt give an old gringo like me the time of day.
We go there for the de-americanized latin women not the ones that could have been infected with the feminazi virus in America. Most of the Latin women in the US are americanized and would give an old gringo like me the time of day.X2 what he said. Also because its hard not to have an adventure in Colombia!
I don't know Cali, but are there really that many gringos and other English-speaking sex tourists going there? Would naming a casa in Cali on ISG cause their business to increase by even 5%? I don't mean any disrespect Cubanut, you're one of the best contributors on this site. I don't tend to hang around fellow mongers when traveling, but outside of Laguito in Cartagena I haven't run across loads of sex tourists in Colombia.
I'M SORRY GENTS, but because of the rapid degradation of places I write about by disrespecting *******es, I have reserves about being blatant as to the locations my new found digs.
Cream on Top
04-01-07, 22:02
I don't know Cali, but are there really that many gringos and other English-speaking sex tourists going there? Would naming a casa in Cali on ISG cause their business to increase by even 5%? I don't mean any disrespect Cubanut, you're one of the best contributors on this site. I don't tend to hang around fellow mongers when traveling, but outside of Laguito in Cartagena I haven't run across loads of sex tourists in Colombia.
I fully understand Cubanut. I would do the same. Why ? well definately because a lot do not know how to deal with real life in third world countries. Many gringos like to wave too much with the green bills. This creates problems for a lot of conscious travelers.
When you look (as for an example) to Cartagena. Prices overthere are completely messed up by tourists and crazy guys wasting big bucks on everything including whoes. That's why a regular fuck now costs about 5 - 6 times the price of a regular same fuck in another city in Colombia (not including the capital). Make your conclusions and deal with the fact you just dont pay prices different from real colombian men, living there and doing the same as you do on holiday in their country.
Use your brains and not your wallet. Then... ISG will be a better place for everyone. And people like Cubanut wont hesitate to tell where and how much.
There is no way I'm going to slam Cubanut, because he's added so much to this forum. But I've got news for you, ISG is a good place because people share information.
It's interesting you bring up Cartagena because (a) it's the only place in Colombia that I'm familiar with where extranjeros have had a significant effect on the price of poontang, and (b) it's the Europeans, like you, that are just as or more responsible for the high prices than gringos. Look at the Italians paying 400,000 pesos in LDV. You've got strong euros and you're spreading them around. I don't think you guys can rightfully blame pussy inflation entirely on us. In most of the places I visit, it's really not the fault of the Europeans or the gringos though. It's the locals, in Colombia the businessmen who are prospering under Uribe. Add to that inflation in Colombia and a weak dollar, and in USD terms, yes, poontang is more expensive.
Many Colombians, not just the hookers, are doing better than they were 5 or 10 years ago. That's a good thing, even if it does mean you're going to have to pay 10 euros more for a piece of ass.
Many gringos like to wave too much with the green bills. This creates problems for a lot of conscious travelers.
When you look (as for an example) to Cartagena. Prices overthere are completely messed up by tourists and crazy guys wasting big bucks on everything including whoes.
even though I generally feel gringoization of almost anything is BAD, the FACTS are that there are not all that many gringos in Cali, even in the north side zone around Sexta where they tend to stay.
I personally like almost NOTHING about the casas, they are low end brothels with high turnover, the big difference being that you will often find girls who look like you´d never find them in a brothel. But here the brothels are full of them. I´d love the places if I were 18 again, and it´s worth noting the large majority of the clientele in these places is probably 18-25 and they are Colombians. I have also noted before that the ambiance isn´t helpful and doesn´t tend to encourage good "performance" either, actually quite the contrary I think.
So comments like "gringos have ruined Cali casas and now all the blowjobs are covered" etc are frankly ERRONEOUS. The vast majority of the clientele is local, even in the gringo north side zones around Sexta. Even in the most popular gringo viisted casa, Clinica de Amor, the time I stuck my head in there, around 4 pm last week, there was maybe ONE gringo/extranjero in the place and the rest were Colombians. Even a place like Escoces, doesn´t see as many gringos as one might think, though it does see a lot of extranjeros.
the so called Piscina casa I was told by a taxista attracts a very bad element, and actually In have been told about a multitude of other casa and take out discotheques, etc etc that exist but have probably almost never seen a gringo, due to where there are located and due to the fact, you´d better have a local friend accompanying you if you go there.
so, I basically wanted to throw that in.
Yes, gringos are clowns and fools and usually destroy price structures, etc but they are not in any way shape or form driving the Cali casa market (which I am no fan of btw) nor are they responsible for the preponderance of covered BJs (one would think lots of govt public health warnings combined with dealing with yards of dick daily might drive a girl to consider it)
if anyone wants to post or withhold info, that´s their individual decision which I respect.
btw, I´ve been here several weeks and have yet to speak to a gringo (mostly by choice, but I also haven´t seen many, they all tend to be centered around the Don Jaime). The beautiful thing about Cali is you can completely fucking avoid them if you want to even in the Versalles zona.
MiamiHeatLuver
04-02-07, 00:29
There is no way I'm going to slam Cubanut, because he's added so much to this forum. But I've got news for you, ISG is a good place because people share information.
It's interesting you bring up Cartagena because (a) it's the only place in Colombia that I'm familiar with where extranjeros have had a significant effect on the price of poontang, and (b) it's the Europeans, like you, that are just as or more responsible for the high prices than gringos. Look at the Italians paying 400,000 pesos in LDV. You've got strong euros and you're spreading them around. I don't think you guys can rightfully blame pussy inflation entirely on us. In most of the places I visit, it's really not the fault of the Europeans or the gringos though. It's the locals, in Colombia the businessmen who are prospering under Uribe. Add to that inflation in Colombia and a weak dollar, and in USD terms, yes, poontang is more expensive.
Many Colombians, not just the hookers, are doing better than they were 5 or 10 years ago. That's a good thing, even if it does mean you're going to have to pay 10 euros more for a piece of ass.
ANY paying, and in good standing, rule abiding member of ISG, Has the right to share or withold ANY and all infomation on mongering to his/her disgretion. There in no written rule that it is mandatory to share information as being a member. Some people, many people just come here to lurk as selfish as it may sound to your ears. So its is CUBA'S right to divulge whatever he chooses too period.
ANY paying, and in good standing, rule abiding member of ISG, Has the right to share or withold ANY and all infomation on mongering to his/her disgretion. There in no written rule that it is mandatory to share information as being a member. Some people, many people just come here to lurk as selfish as it may sound to your ears. So its is CUBA'S right to divulge whatever he chooses too period. Uh yeah we kind of figured that.Keep up the good work Cnut....we'll take what we can get!
I agree with Cubanut 100%. If I was blessed to be in the same postion I would not share information. It is only human to want to boast & brag. However, when you share information it tends to multiply. It's great in marketing, but in travel it is troublesome.
I travel to get away. Away from New Jersey...away from the USA... Away from everything... That is what the core of a vacation is all about. Those of us that have truly traveled know this. I'm young and very new to this. However, I remember the SouthBeach (Miami), the DR and Ibiza of the of the 90's... I was there well before the cameras of E! & Travel Channel Cable shows. And now I refuse to return, because some assclown couldn't keep his f**king mouth shut. Now my utopias have been ruined by the tourist monster.
I love my new utopia too much. Excuse me for being a bit jealous and protective. But I'm sorry, I am keeping the little I know about Colombia to myself for awhile. I guess I am still an idealist and a romantic at heart.
Thanks for all of you insights, Cubanut. I appreciate your wisdom. I'm not hating, I get you brother and I concur.
If anyone has a great experience anywhere, but would rather not share it, I totally understand. Matter of fact, I have many such places. But why mention them? Simply say you went to Cali and had a good time. NO reason for (na-na-na-na-na). Just my thoughts. You can always PM a select few the info if you so desire.
MiamiHeatLuver
04-02-07, 02:09
If anyone has a great experience anywhere, but would rather not share it, I totally understand. Matter of fact, I have many such places. But why mention them? Simply say you went to Cali and had a good time. NO reason for (na-na-na-na-na). Just my thoughts. You can always PM a select few the info if you so desire.
I totaly agree with your point,and was going to incoprorate your point in my prior rebuttle, WHY even bring it up then, its like waving a filet minon in front of rabid dogs. I guess he just wanted to for warn us of a well know policy, DONT ASK, DONT TELL! LOL
I'M SORRY GENTS, but because of the rapid degradation of places I write about by disrespecting *******es, I have reserves about being blatant as to the locations my new found digs. Oh sure anyone else can find them with some due diligence and so they won't remain fairly unknown for long but I don't see the need to bring them to light sooner than not.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Just an FYI- I did my due diligence of going to about 2 dozens locations I had not been to before. Everywhere I went I asked the management, the girls, taxi drivers and other locals if they knew of other P4P places. I then compared if I had been to the locations before and if not, I tried them out. I found some that actually were not bad but did not stand out because of lack luster attention by the staff/girls or poor or unclean facilities and of course the freaking cold water which is OK during the day when it's hot but sucks at night as it cools down.
I guess I should make it clear in statement I am quoted above to include saying that I am willing to share with those who also care to share. Let me make it even clearer I WILL SHARE WITH THOSE WILLING TO SHARE. Just as I shared the info of "The Secret Place" with others via PM, I am willing to share the info on the newest additions.
Say what you want about ones own concepts and visions while traveling the Cali P4P well traveled circuit and I will do the same. It just didn't sit well with me to find loud drunken idiots grabbing, jerking and ass slapping the girls disrespectfully in one place then finding totally sober idiots TIPPING the girls $20,000 cop to $50,000 cop in another but yet shoo away little kids trying to sell $500 cop chicklets as if they were skum.
I want to make it clear that I LIKE HANGING OUT WITH GRINGOS. In fact I encourage it. However I don't like hanging out with ASSHOLES. The ones I came across in my trip while visiting some favorite P4P places was partly the reason why I struck out to find new locations. So I guess I really owe them some thanks.
Cheers,
Cubanut
BTW- In addition to the new daytime digs I found, for those of you who PM'd me and went to the original "Secret Place", I found another one with the same set up but bigger if you care to try it out.
These two pics are of a chica from the other "Secret Place". I forget her name but she stood about 6 feet tall in heels. Can't wait till she's gets those braces off her teeth though because she has a great smile. Great personality as well and she even she asked me to take these shots and then email them to her so she could put them on her cell phone. I love these places because the girls there truly have "nothing to hide" (this is a hint for those of you who have not been).
interesting you´ve come across so many gringos c-nut because as I note, i have not. of course, I have not prowled thru the casas at all, merely stuck my head in a couple of times and only to about five thus far, with frankly little to no desire to go beyond that number.
I am however, tempted to try the fairly large number of places I was told about in part of town you won´t find any gringo in with the dangerous ambiente. I expect more of the same, but my curiosity has been aroused.
in regards to new places and casas around town, if you can speak mediocre Spanish at the very least, all one needs to do is find the right cabbie and he can take you around to as many as you want and then some. They even keep business cards and lists of them handy. There is certainly no shortage of them around town, it´s an incredible industry, though it won´t serve for much beyond a blueball release IMHO
Mr Enternational
04-02-07, 04:39
I third that. My Colombiana here is getting on my last nerve. "Why you don't call me when you are out of the country? . Why you don't call me much when you are in the country. Why this, why that? 'Broad I don't call anybody in the States when I am not in the States. I'm not wasting my mongering money on phone calls. Besides, your fingers aren't broken. You know my number and you know where I live. And if I don't answer then you can leave a message or send an email. '" The americanization I can do without. Meanwhile, all of my ladies in Colombia are just overjoyed if I send them an email once a week. And I would like to highlight what you said brother Yoda. The americanized ones usually don't give us the time of day.
We go there for the de-americanized latin women not the ones that could have been infected with the feminazi virus in America. Most of the Latin women in the US are americanized and wouldnt give an old gringo like me the time of day.
had to take a second look at the mug Cubanut of the last girl, your slipping....
However Melissa now that is another story, I like the gymnastics, and I bet it she has the potential to play twister with the best of them.....
Cream on Top
04-02-07, 08:03
There is no way I'm going to slam Cubanut, because he's added so much to this forum. But I've got news for you, ISG is a good place because people share information.
It's interesting you bring up Cartagena because (a) it's the only place in Colombia that I'm familiar with where extranjeros have had a significant effect on the price of poontang, and (b) it's the Europeans, like you, that are just as or more responsible for the high prices than gringos. Look at the Italians paying 400,000 pesos in LDV. You've got strong euros and you're spreading them around. I don't think you guys can rightfully blame pussy inflation entirely on us. In most of the places I visit, it's really not the fault of the Europeans or the gringos though. It's the locals, in Colombia the businessmen who are prospering under Uribe. Add to that inflation in Colombia and a weak dollar, and in USD terms, yes, poontang is more expensive.
Many Colombians, not just the hookers, are doing better than they were 5 or 10 years ago. That's a good thing, even if it does mean you're going to have to pay 10 euros more for a piece of ass.
You are out of your mind.
a) Its certainly NOT the local men who are responsible for pussy inflation. Economical inflation does not rectify a 5 - 6 times higher price for a pussy in Colombia. That's not the usual inflationrate in Colombia anyway.
Colombianos are not paying 5 - 6 times more like estranjeros. I know this from very reliable inside sources. Besides, the local businessmen prospering under Uribe, dont need to go to putas as they have on every finger hanging a 9'er or 10'er chica.(which they sponsor) for their own physical benefits. It shows me that YOU are not very familiar with the Colombian Scenery and yes, only went or go to Cartagena. Good, I hope you remain overthere ! NO more need for you to read the Cali section. And... Look below a gringo has been killed in Cali. So please Stay away !!! :-))
b) Whether a currency (Euro or US dollar) is strong or weak, the putas in Colombia or any other place in third world, wont give a damn IF for you this will be more painfull or not to pay the moment you wanna Bang her. They see your white whale face, and know they can ask 5 - 6 times the price compared to a local man. Because they know you are so eager to bang her and have your brains in the opposite space where they should belong. (I admit its not only Gringos, some ASSHOLE europeans also exist.) But as Colombia is next to N. America, the rate of ASSHOLES comming from Europe is rather small compared to gringos. Or are you going to claim prices in TIJUANA Mexico also went up because of an Italian looser ?
Whole central America, the Caraibians, and now lots of parts in S. America are westernized and influenced by ASSHOLES travelling. (20 % Europeans and 80 % American assholes). Take a look at tourist statistics about Colombia before you enter a discussion. I can understand those in here aware of local prices and local customs. They travel with a very different state of mind compared to Assholes. And know when they show to run around with their balls in their head and their brains between their legs, they will LOOSE ! Not only for themselves but also for the next tourist comming in. Play the game differently with putas and you are going to benefit from it !
had to take a second look at the mug Cubanut of the last girl, your slipping....
However Melissa now that is another story, I like the gymnastics, and I bet it she has the potential to play twister with the best of them.....
MJG Dogs,
Actually she looks better in person. Like I said, I can't wait til the braces come off her teeth. Also it was a bit warm and sweaty when I took the pics. She really does look great in person. Still, I would take fair looks and great P4P service over great looks and fair/poor P4P service any day.
Anyway, here's a pic of a couple of gals I and my buddy were set up with by my other friends girlfriend. Nice girls. We took them dancing on Ave Sexta then back to the hotel for some fun and furious loving. I took the one on the right (Jennifer).
Cheers,
Cubanut
Cream on Top, I'm glad to see that you've mellowed since your days on gringos.com (matrimonial site, not an ISG competitor) and are no longer blaming the gringo alone for all the world's problems. Your points,
a) Did you read what I wrote? I have no argument that there are extranjeros in CARTAGENA paying 5-6 times the going rate in other venues. There are definitely Colombians paying as much or more than tourists in Colombia, and those 9's and 10's on the arms of the Colombianos are not necessarily sponsored women. Some are prepagos or from places like Las Profesionales. Much of this goes on in private though -- the extranjero is more likely to be seen in public (like a restaurant) with a hooker than the typical Colombian monger. Your assumption that I've never ventured out of Cartagena is wrong. I've been to Bogota and Medellin on multiple occasions and once to Barranquilla, admittedly usually not just to monger, but primarily for business and as a conventional tourist. Don't worry, I don't have plans right now to go to Cali, so you don't have to worry about one more ASSHOLE in your favorite city.
B.) You do have a point here. You go to Mexico and "gringo" means estadounidense; they don't differentiate as much in Colombia.
YOU are the one that should take a look at the tourist statistics:
http://www.turismoafondo.com/comunidad/news.asp?id=319
In the first part of 2007, 17% of tourists to Colombia came from the European Union and 19% from the U.S. Forty-two percent were from South America. I haven't spent as much time mongering in Cartagena as I used to, but when I first started going there were more Italians than estadounidenses. Don't know if that's still the case -- I've been into LDV three times in the last two years. I suspect what you say about Tijuana, Mexico is wrong, but I've never been there. I can say for a fact that you'll spend a lot more for poontang in Mexico City for top flight hookers, $250/hour, than what you'll pay in the border towns close to Texas. Massage parlors in Juarez on the border charge $40 for a session, versus $100 in Guadalajara in the interior. The reason? Just like most places in Colombia (but not Cartagena), IT'S THE LOCALS THAT ARE DRIVING THE PRICE OF PUSSY, not the gringos.
You are out of your mind.
a) Its certainly NOT the local men who are responsible for pussy inflation. Economical inflation does not rectify a 5 - 6 times higher price for a pussy in Colombia. That's not the usual inflationrate in Colombia anyway.
Colombianos are not paying 5 - 6 times more like estranjeros. I know this from very reliable inside sources. Besides, the local businessmen prospering under Uribe, dont need to go to putas as they have on every finger hanging a 9'er or 10'er chica.(which they sponsor) for their own physical benefits. It shows me that YOU are not very familiar with the Colombian Scenery and yes, only went or go to Cartagena. Good, I hope you remain overthere ! NO more need for you to read the Cali section. And... Look below a gringo has been killed in Cali. So please Stay away !!! :-))
b) Whether a currency (Euro or US dollar) is strong or weak, the putas in Colombia or any other place in third world, wont give a damn IF for you this will be more painfull or not to pay the moment you wanna Bang her. They see your white whale face, and know they can ask 5 - 6 times the price compared to a local man. Because they know you are so eager to bang her and have your brains in the opposite space where they should belong. (I admit its not only Gringos, some ASSHOLE europeans also exist.) But as Colombia is next to N. America, the rate of ASSHOLES comming from Europe is rather small compared to gringos. Or are you going to claim prices in TIJUANA Mexico also went up because of an Italian looser ?
Whole central America, the Caraibians, and now lots of parts in S. America are westernized and influenced by ASSHOLES travelling. (20 % Europeans and 80 % American assholes). Take a look at tourist statistics about Colombia before you enter a discussion. I can understand those in here aware of local prices and local customs. They travel with a very different state of mind compared to Assholes. And know when they show to run around with their balls in their head and their brains between their legs, they will LOOSE ! Not only for themselves but also for the next tourist comming in. Play the game differently with putas and you are going to benefit from it !
Gents,
I didn't think a comment about a few jerks would start a discussion of gringo management.
Anyway, can we please get back on track of what Cali Reports is supposed to be for.
As before mentioned, I met Melissa at La Piscina. Her and her two friends had just blown into town from Armenia that evening.
Melissa used to go by the name of Jessica I'm being told. None the less she will probably go through a few more names before her career ends.
Melissa is quite the drinker as well because I bought a caneca of rum and got the incuded dance from her but she drank nearly a third of the bottle to boot! She's a little locomotive for sure on stage but later while we were going at it she started to wear out and barely made it through our session without passing out. Fun as it was I would have liked to have had her save nore gusto in the bedroom than on the stage.
Her boozing it up was what made me decide to session with in house rather than taking her back to my hotel. I would have liked to have had a Nikon photo session with her as well but I figured it was getting late and it could wait another day. The fee for an hour session was $58,000 cop.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Cubanut;
I do agree with what you say about performance over looks. Ok, I will give the chica with the braces the benefit of the doubt, for the body looks nice.
Cheers in return...
it´s basically 50K for an hour and if it´s 2 hours or more, then a 100K, perhaps with a 20K tip or a little more which will cover her taxi expenses.
anything above that is clipjoint/executive pricing.
in a typical casa for e.g. you´ll pay 60K for an hour, out of which she´ll get 40 (I asked) and even in a clipjoint like escoces you can get many girls to go for a 100K for a couple of hours (outside the premises)
However, as anything in life, there are exceptions and since my good friend Ricker mentions that he will returning to Cali soon I will be happy to share the info with him since he did me the same favor once before. So PM me Ricker if think you'll have time to pull yourself away from your novia to thread some new waters.
Hey thanks Cubanut !
I think together we could make a guide that would make Scooby cry :)
I posted about my new guide in the Medellin section, but we could change the name to "Cubanut and Ricker's Guide to Colombia" or maybe something more catchy, like "Cuba and Ricker, nuts of Colombia, the Guide".
Or maybe you could come up with an even better name, or we could have a contest like Aussie Greg did, and give out a free copy of our book to the guy that comes up with the best title for us :)
Talk to ya soon amigo!
Looks like Melissa's got natural C-cups, WoW! From your excellent photos, she seems tall, 5' 8"? Sure worth the climb (for me anyway, I'm a shorty)
BTW, I am hanging with 'Red Cloud' in Rio right now. E-mail him when you get a chance. I hope to meet you one day.
Carry on your good works for this board.
Jaimito Cartero
04-06-07, 22:01
Copa has just announced some rock bottom prices out of NYC. Less than $300 RT. Booking the flights on www.copaairlines.com only lets you book into July. However, if you want to pay the paper ticket fee, you can book on Travelocity, Orbitz or Expedia.
http://www.copaair.com/planifiqueviaje/ofertasWeb/default.aspx?ID=13415
Gringo Loco
04-06-07, 22:16
a 34 year old american and his colombian wife were stopped and assaulted by three armed men in a taxi who intended to take them on a "millionaires walk", which i imagine is a trek to various atm's until they hit their withdrawal limits. luckily for the them, cops were on the scene. a shootout ensued and the 3 assailants along with their taxista were arrested with no injuries.
i'll be in cali next week until the end of the month. i have a few regular (non-pro) chicas that i've kept in touch with since my last trip in dec as well as some prospects that i'm still working. so far the lure of those sexy caleńas has outweighed the fear of street violence, but i'll certainly try to keep an even lower profile this time around. i don't want the distinction of being the next gringo who makes it into el pais!
from el pais cali:
http://www.elpais.com.co/hoy/jud/jud3.html
cali
evitan "paseo millonario" a un extranjero
abril 05 de 2007
el gaula rerep001ó a un ciudadano estadounidense y a su esposa colombiana, quienes iban a ser víctimas de un 'paseo millonario'.
el extranjero, de 34 ańos, y su compańera se movilizaban en el taxi hyundai, de placas vcj- 838, cuando dos hombres armados subieron al automóvil y los amenazaron.
los asaltantes, 23, 25 y 32 ańos, fueron detenidos en la autopista simón bolívar. entre los capturados estaba el taxista.
cuando los tres hombres fueron requeridos por la policía se presentó un intercambio de disparos, que no dejó heridos. las autoridades incautaron una pistola 9 milímetros.
Normal colombian boy goes with waiters and other low and poor (mantecas) colombian campesinas for not more than some beers and a travel to the beach or to disco during nite.He never pays 100 dol. for a nite with girls, also cause 100 dol.for him are a week of work.While if u speack about the colombian millionars they use big money but to go with girls of tv and high sohowgirls not of course to go with the turist's treet and beach hookers.
So if they prices of disco, and beach hookers are going up is especially for tourists form europe and usa that become mad for pussy givin'them a lot of money.
Chao.
Cream on Top, I'm glad to see that you've mellowed since your days on gringos.com (matrimonial site, not an ISG competitor) and are no longer blaming the gringo alone for all the world's problems. Your points,
a) Did you read what I wrote? I have no argument that there are extranjeros in CARTAGENA paying 5-6 times the going rate in other venues. There are definitely Colombians paying as much or more than tourists in Colombia, and those 9's and 10's on the arms of the Colombianos are not necessarily sponsored women. Some are prepagos or from places like Las Profesionales. Much of this goes on in private though -- the extranjero is more likely to be seen in public (like a restaurant) with a hooker than the typical Colombian monger. Your assumption that I've never ventured out of Cartagena is wrong. I've been to Bogota and Medellin on multiple occasions and once to Barranquilla, admittedly usually not just to monger, but primarily for business and as a conventional tourist. Don't worry, I don't have plans right now to go to Cali, so you don't have to worry about one more ASSHOLE in your favorite city.
B.) You do have a point here. You go to Mexico and "gringo" means estadounidense; they don't differentiate as much in Colombia.
YOU are the one that should take a look at the tourist statistics:
http://www.turismoafondo.com/comunidad/news.asp?id=319
In the first part of 2007, 17% of tourists to Colombia came from the European Union and 19% from the U.S. Forty-two percent were from South America. I haven't spent as much time mongering in Cartagena as I used to, but when I first started going there were more Italians than estadounidenses. Don't know if that's still the case -- I've been into LDV three times in the last two years. I suspect what you say about Tijuana, Mexico is wrong, but I've never been there. I can say for a fact that you'll spend a lot more for poontang in Mexico City for top flight hookers, $250/hour, than what you'll pay in the border towns close to Texas. Massage parlors in Juarez on the border charge $40 for a session, versus $100 in Guadalajara in the interior. The reason? Just like most places in Colombia (but not Cartagena), IT'S THE LOCALS THAT ARE DRIVING THE PRICE OF PUSSY, not the gringos.
No joda!!! I just went onto their site and you are correct.. actually mine came out to $129US R/T + taxes of $143.70 thus $272.00 R/T JFK to Cali all taxes included. That is the cheapest I have ever seen a ticket from anywhere in the mainland US to Colombia on Copa/Avianca/ AA/Delta or Continental.
Thanks for the info.
Copa has just announced some rock bottom prices out of NYC. Less than $300 RT. Booking the flights on www.copaairlines.com only lets you book into July. However, if you want to pay the paper ticket fee, you can book on Travelocity, Orbitz or Expedia.
http://www.copaair.com/planifiqueviaje/ofertasWeb/default.aspx?ID=13415
Below is a report from a 4 day vist to Cali:
Hotel:
Stayed at Cali Plaza. The hotel is owned by an American. A pretty good location, although it can be a little noisy with a bar situated across the street.
Non-Pros:
Go to the mallls and strike up a conversation. My Spanish is probably intermediate, but you will be surprised how much they will help you. Actually, this works to your advantage. ChipChapi is a good mall to meet them. There are others, but I didn't have time to visit.
Food:
Didn't really eat anywhere fancy. Use the cali lists reports for better info.
Strip Club:
Went to club Escoces near the intercontinental hotel. Talent was ok, but I went there early. The guy outside told me to come back around 11pm to see some great looking girls. Never got the chance to go back.
Massage:
Dr Amor. The girls looked good, but can't compare to Loutron in Medellin. But a good deal for about 20 bucks.
Overall:
Cali is not Medellin. But I feel the women are much more approachable here. People seemed very friendly, and I got the sense of a more laid back atmosphere. Overall a good experience. I ran across a very nice cab driver who speaks good english. His name is Nelson, and his phone is 310-503-4944. He gave me a tour about an hour north of Cali. A very pretty area, that actually made my trip. I would highly recommend him as a driver.
Does Cali Plaza have wireless Internet? If so, do they charge? Also, any issues there with chicas? Just curious. I think I may stay there sometime.
Thanks
Below is a report from a 4 day vist to Cali:
Hotel:
Stayed at Cali Plaza. The hotel is owned by an American. A pretty good location, although it can be a little noisy with a bar situated across the street.
Non-Pros:
Go to the mallls and strike up a conversation. My Spanish is probably intermediate, but you will be surprised how much they will help you. Actually, this works to your advantage. ChipChapi is a good mall to meet them. There are others, but I didn't have time to visit.
Food:
Didn't really eat anywhere fancy. Use the cali lists reports for better info.
Strip Club:
Went to club Escoces near the intercontinental hotel. Talent was ok, but I went there early. The guy outside told me to come back around 11pm to see some great looking girls. Never got the chance to go back.
Massage:
Dr Amor. The girls looked good, but can't compare to Loutron in Medellin. But a good deal for about 20 bucks.
Overall:
Cali is not Medellin. But I feel the women are much more approachable here. People seemed very friendly, and I got the sense of a more laid back atmosphere. Overall a good experience. I ran across a very nice cab driver who speaks good english. His name is Nelson, and his phone is 310-503-4944. He gave me a tour about an hour north of Cali. A very pretty area, that actually made my trip. I would highly recommend him as a driver.
Below is a report from a 4 day vist to Cali:
Hotel:
Stayed at Cali Plaza. The hotel is owned by an American. A pretty good location, although it can be a little noisy with a bar situated across the street.
Non-Pros:
Go to the mallls and strike up a conversation. My Spanish is probably intermediate, but you will be surprised how much they will help you. Actually, this works to your advantage. ChipChapi is a good mall to meet them. There are others, but I didn't have time to visit.
Food:
Didn't really eat anywhere fancy. Use the cali lists reports for better info.
Strip Club:
Went to club Escoces near the intercontinental hotel. Talent was ok, but I went there early. The guy outside told me to come back around 11pm to see some great looking girls. Never got the chance to go back.
Massage:
Dr Amor. The girls looked good, but can't compare to Loutron in Medellin. But a good deal for about 20 bucks.
Overall:
Cali is not Medellin. But I feel the women are much more approachable here. People seemed very friendly, and I got the sense of a more laid back atmosphere. Overall a good experience. I ran across a very nice cab driver who speaks good english. His name is Nelson, and his phone is 310-503-4944. He gave me a tour about an hour north of Cali. A very pretty area, that actually made my trip. I would highly recommend him as a driver.
I think you´d do even better in malls other than Chipichape, like Unicentro or Palmetto down south but this also kind of depends on what you look like and your "comportamiento".
without having been to MDE, yes the women are very approachable here if you can speak at least some Spanish )enough to carry on a basic conversation at least)
p.s. and it´s "no me jodas"
I ran across a very nice cab driver who speaks good english. His name is Nelson, and his phone is 310-503-4944. ... I would highly recommend him as a driver.If this is the same Nelson, and I believe it is, he works out of an agency, Colombian Women . com or something like that.
Someone recommended Nelson to put an ad in a newspaper and interviewed the girls that showed up. His wife answered the ad calls and scheduled the girls for their interviews on a Saturday from 9 to 5. Cost was $500. I paid him up front, as he was recommended by a friend who had been satisfied.
He had a conceited girl with big fake knockers ride with him to meet me at the airport. Suggested I take the girl and forget about the interviews the next day.
The next day he showed me a camera that my buddy supposedly bought him as a gift. Suggested I show my appreciation too and buy him a gift.
Several of the girls were regulars from a Cali agency, or average looking friends of his wife. Only a couple were hotties and they were not too motivated... had kids, good job in Cali, etc. He made an effort to get the phone numbers of the hotties for himself, though he promised me he was faithful to his wife?
Completed the interviews but did not find any non-pros worth investing my time or money beyond the $500. BTW $500 is alot of money in Colombia, the average Colombian earns $200 a month, more or less.
Maybe some of you other gentlemen have had the same experience with Nelson?
MiamiHeatLuver
04-10-07, 02:10
FARC, is making a strong comeback and targeting CALI as their stronghold and base of operations. and Just as I thought things might be improving slightly there. Just spoke to the novia, she is getting a little shaken up about Cali and its turn for the worse and told me its all over (RCN AND CARACOL).
• Region's governor says FARC rebels are initial suspects in Cali car bombing
• One person killed and 34 injured when bomb goes off in front of police barracks
• At least 40 stores and houses damaged in blast in Colombia's third-largest city
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BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) -- A powerful car bomb exploded Monday in front of police barracks in the southwest city of Cali, Colombia, killing one person and injuring 34, the region's governor said.
Gov. Angelino Garzon told Caracol radio that "the first theory we're going with is that it's the work of the FARC," referring to the country's largest leftist rebel group, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia.
"Although we cannot rule out other illegal groups, whether it's drug traffickers, paramilitaries or common criminals."
The explosion killed a taxi driver who was passing the car when the bomb was detonated. The blast also injured 19 officers in the barracks, and 15 civilians on the street outside. I will regretebably postpone my monthy trip till things calm down a little, Rather be safe than sorry.
At least 40 stores and houses were damaged.
Cali, Colombia's third largest city about 185 miles (300 kilometers) southwest of the capital of Bogota, is the site of a vicious turf war between leftist rebels, far-right paramilitaries and rival drug traffickers.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/04/09/colombia.bombing.ap/index.html
http://www.elpais.com.co/paisonline/especiales/policia_atentado/notas/Abril092007/bomba2.html
hmmm... if you say so.... but I'll stick with 1) no joda or 2) no me jodes as I've always thought the verb was joder. Maybe I am incorrect :-)
p.s. and it´s "no me jodas"[/QUOTE]
hmmm... if you say so.... but I'll stick with 1) no joda or 2) no me jodes as I've always thought the verb was joder. Maybe I am incorrect :-)
p.s. and it´s "no me jodas"[/QUOTE]
I would think instead of "sticking with something" you haven´t learned but just assume, it´d be better to learn, no?
people say what SOUNDS like no joda, but that´s kind of quickening things (Latins sometimes swallow letters and syllables, especially in places like Cuba)
so here´s your lesson. For starters your option 2 is definitely INCORRECT and the first needs explanation.
the verb is indeed joder (basically meaning "to fuck with"), and it´s not a verb used in polite company.
if you want to use the negative imperative, you have to change the conjugation of the verb into what is also the "subjunctive" conjugation. (ergo, jodes becomes jodas, and jode becomes joda). The imperative tense and the negative imperative is most often though not always used with the "tu" form. However, with a verb like joder, it´s almost impossible that it´d be used with the polite usted form
which leaves you with
no me jodas (from the "tu" version),. You will often not "hear" the "s" because many Spanish speakers will swallow s´s at end of words or merely aspirate them (where you hear a slight hiss instead of a full pronounciation) and sometimes they won´t say the "me" part. Examples of this are "mi hijo" which is shortened and pronounced "mijo" y mi hija / mija.
now if you were to use the polite form with usted
no me joda - but like I said, highly unlikely it´d be used with the polite usted form.
so - yes your ear does hear "no joda" between the guys in loose/slang conversation (I have heard it in Cuba and Venezuela this way) and if you want to sound like "one of the guys" feel free to use it, though you might start sounding very stupid trying to sound like one of the guys outside that phrase. As I noted, the amount of swallowing, shortening and aspirating depends on the country you are in (Cuba could be the "worst" and Colombia the "best")
the correct form you should learn and know is no me jodas.
Well that's confusing.. you said option 2 is definitely incorrect and then your last sentence is no me jodes is correct? which is it?
Like I said.. I'll stick with no joda and no me jodes... those are correct Spanish in my opinion. what you wrote no me jodas is not correct Spanish... in my opinion. Maybe I am wrong. I called my gf just now and she said "what city?" She said costenos say "No joda" and cachacos say "no jodas"
I asked ok but if you want to use "me" which is correct... no me jodas o no me jodes? She said, "no me jodas." I asked, "why if the verb is joder."
She asked everyone in her family and they came to the conclusion that it's no me jodes.... but no one uses it. She said.. costenos say "no joda" and cachacos say "no me joda." Thus I orginally said "no joda" then you incorrectly corrected me with "no me jodas." Then I came back with "no me jodes o no joda." The technical correct ways as well as the costeno way. This is kind of dumb, I probably shouldnt have responded... I was just pointing out that you corrected me with the only way that is absolutely incorrect... though when you ask someone they think that way is correct.. though they dont use it. Once they think about it though.. they realize your way is in fact incorrect nor does anyone use it... at least not that I've heard.
I would think instead of "sticking with something" you haven´t learned but just assume, it´d be better to learn, no?
people say what SOUNDS like no joda, but that´s kind of quickening things (Latins sometimes swallow letters and syllables, especially in places like Cuba)
so here´s your lesson. For starters your option 2 is definitely INCORRECT and the first needs explanation.
the verb is indeed joder (basically meaning "to fuck with"), and it´s not a verb used in polite company.
if you want to use the negative imperative, you have to change the conjugation of the verb into what is also the "subjunctive" conjugation. (ergo, jodes becomes jodas, and jode becomes joda). The imperative tense and the negative imperative is most often though not always used with the "tu" form. However, with a verb like joder, it´s almost impossible that it´d be used with the polite usted form
which leaves you with
no me jodas (from the "tu" version),. You will often not "hear" the "s" because many Spanish speakers will swallow s´s at end of words or merely aspirate them (where you hear a slight hiss instead of a full pronounciation) and sometimes they won´t say the "me" part. Examples of this are "mi hijo" which is shortened and pronounced "mijo" y mi hija / mija.
now if you were to use the polite form with usted
no me joda - but like I said, highly unlikely it´d be used with the polite usted form.
so - yes your ear does hear "no joda" between the guys in loose/slang conversation (I have heard it in Cuba and Venezuela this way) and if you want to sound like "one of the guys" feel free to use it, though you might start sounding very stupid trying to sound like one of the guys outside that phrase. As I noted, the amount of swallowing, shortening and aspirating depends on the country you are in (Cuba could be the "worst" and Colombia the "best")
the correct form you should learn and know is no me jodes.[/QUOTE]
To simplify...
If I'm going to use this verb and I'm trying to get the point across in a way like "I can't believe it".. which is how I used it in the other forum regarding cheap airfares. I will say "no joda"
On the other hand if my gf or someone is severly pissing me off I will say it as "no me jodes mas.
Thus why I said... no joda and no me jodes in response to your trying to correct me. Maybe no me jodas is used in places but I havent heard it, but like I politely said... I could be wrong. But you then came back and said no me jodes is absolutely incorrect and then your last line says the correct way and the way I should learn is "no me jodes." Which is exactly how I corrected you and which is exactly what you said is absolutely incorrect???
Well that's confusing.. you said option 2 is definitely incorrect and then your last sentence is no me jodes is correct? which is it?
Like I said.. I'll stick with no joda and no me jodes... those are correct Spanish in my opinion. what you wrote no me jodas is not correct Spanish... in my opinion. Maybe I am wrong. I called my gf just now and she said "what city?" She said costenos say "No joda" and cachacos say "no jodas"
I asked ok but if you want to use "me" which is correct... no me jodas o no me jodes? She said, "no me jodas." I asked, "why if the verb is joder."
She asked everyone in her family and they came to the conclusion that it's no me jodes.... but no one uses it. She said.. costenos say "no joda" and cachacos say "no me joda." Thus I orginally said "no joda" then you incorrectly corrected me with "no me jodas." Then I came back with "no me jodes o no joda." The technical correct ways as well as the costeno way. This is kind of dumb, I probably shouldnt have responded... I was just pointing out that you corrected me with the only way that is absolutely incorrect... though when you ask someone they think that way is correct.. though they dont use it. Once they think about it though.. they realize your way is in fact incorrect nor does anyone use it... at least not that I've heard.
I would think instead of "sticking with something" you haven´t learned but just assume, it´d be better to learn, no?
people say what SOUNDS like no joda, but that´s kind of quickening things (Latins sometimes swallow letters and syllables, especially in places like Cuba)
so here´s your lesson. For starters your option 2 is definitely INCORRECT and the first needs explanation.
the verb is indeed joder (basically meaning "to fuck with"), and it´s not a verb used in polite company.
if you want to use the negative imperative, you have to change the conjugation of the verb into what is also the "subjunctive" conjugation. (ergo, jodes becomes jodas, and jode becomes joda). The imperative tense and the negative imperative is most often though not always used with the "tu" form. However, with a verb like joder, it´s almost impossible that it´d be used with the polite usted form
which leaves you with
no me jodas (from the "tu" version),. You will often not "hear" the "s" because many Spanish speakers will swallow s´s at end of words or merely aspirate them (where you hear a slight hiss instead of a full pronounciation) and sometimes they won´t say the "me" part. Examples of this are "mi hijo" which is shortened and pronounced "mijo" y mi hija / mija.
now if you were to use the polite form with usted
no me joda - but like I said, highly unlikely it´d be used with the polite usted form.
so - yes your ear does hear "no joda" between the guys in loose/slang conversation (I have heard it in Cuba and Venezuela this way) and if you want to sound like "one of the guys" feel free to use it, though you might start sounding very stupid trying to sound like one of the guys outside that phrase. As I noted, the amount of swallowing, shortening and aspirating depends on the country you are in (Cuba could be the "worst" and Colombia the "best")
the correct form you should learn and know is no me jodes.[/QUOTE]
ít´s no me jodas.
you can say what sounds like no joda if you want to sound like one of the guys. (and YES, it is often said that way) Like I said, the problem then comes how you sound compared to "the guys" afterwards.
it is not and will NEVER/EVER be no me jodes. (because it has to conjugated differently in the negative imperative).... and of course that´s why it "shouldn´t" be this way either. For your costena gf to say that means she really didn´t learn grammar in school.
I apologize for the fat finger and hopefully my post besides that last line made clear the proper grammatical background. (as did Ezinho)
I happen to believe it´s almost always better to learn the language correctly, rather than trying to sound like the guy on the street (you can get to that once you are very good or master the correct way). If your Spanish is proper you will often get complimented since a lot of the people, especially of the lower classes one might meet may not be well educated and their Spanish will often not be very good/proper.
of course you are free to disagree with the first sentence of the last paragraph
p.s. the costeńos in Colombia speak Spanish that is very similar to the Venezuelan variety, and even use many of the slang terms, so I´m not the slightest bit surprised they all say (and you hear) no joda. I heard what sounded like no joda in Caracas all the time (but since it´s a slang/street expression, they are swallowing the me and not pronouncing the s at the end of the word)
I will ask some locals in Cali tonight/tomorrow for their explanation of why it´s said as "no joda" (I might learn something as well) but I know the proper grammatical way would be no me jodas
Fair enough.. I'd too be interested in hearing what they say specifically regarding no joda o no jodas. You've kind of convinced me that no me jodas better over no me jodes. But why do some say "no joda" and some say "no jodas?" Slang by region?
ít´s no me jodas.
you can say what sounds like no joda if you want to sound like one of the guys. (and YES, it is often said that way) Like I said, the problem then comes how you sound compared to "the guys" afterwards.
it is not and will NEVER/EVER be no me jodes. (because it has to conjugated differently in the negative imperative).... and of course that´s why it "shouldn´t" be this way either. For your costena gf to say that means she really didn´t learn grammar in school.
I apologize for the fat finger and hopefully my post besides that last line made clear the proper grammatical background. (as did Ezinho)
I happen to believe it´s almost always better to learn the language correctly, rather than trying to sound like the guy on the street (you can get to that once you are very good or master the correct way). If your Spanish is proper you will often get complimented since a lot of the people, especially of the lower classes one might meet may not be well educated and their Spanish will often not be very good/proper.
of course you are free to disagree with the first sentence of the last paragraph
p.s. the costeńos in Colombia speak Spanish that is very similar to the Venezuelan variety, and even use many of the slang terms, so I´m not the slightest bit surprised they all say (and you hear) no joda. I heard what sounded like no joda in Caracas all the time (but since it´s a slang/street expression, they are swallowing the me and not pronouncing the s at the end of the word)
I will ask some locals in Cali tonight/tomorrow for their explanation of why it´s said as "no joda" (I might learn something as well) but I know the proper grammatical way would be no me jodas
.......if you want to use the negative imperative, you have to change the conjugation of the verb into what is also the "subjunctive" conjugation. (ergo, jodes becomes jodas, and jode becomes joda). The imperative tense and the negative imperative is most often though not always used with the "tú" form. However, with a verb like joder, it´s almost impossible that it´d be used with the polite usted form.........
Holy shit, Catire. It's not fair to make me reach for grammar books before I've finished my first coffee!!
So if anyone is interested, as learning Spanish is a fundamental to scoring well with Chicas (it even adds value to a financial exchange), this is the Spanish lesson I derived from your post although I had to sit down and digest due to my own limitations. I got it down to;
To express a negative command one uses the present subjunctive (one of the uses of this tense).
The present subjunctive of regular verbs and many irregular verbs is normally formed by taking the present indicative, 1st person singular of the verb and:
for an ar ending type add: e, es, e; emos, éis, en;
for an er or ir ending type add: a, as, a; amos, áis, an.
(And remember the usted/ustedes form uses third person)!
Thanks, Catire!! I prefer days when I learn something!!
Right. Finished my coffee. Now got to take a dump.
Suerte!
Polvo
Gringo Loco
04-10-07, 14:19
Heatluver,
You're not going to leave me all alone in Cali at the tender mercy of The Farc, are you? Will you at least give me your novia's phone number so that she might comfort me in your absence?
Winner & Catire,
I'm only an intermediate level spanish speaker so I consulted my Living Language "Ultimate Spanish" book for reference. Direct quote: "The negative tu command is the second person singular of the present subjunctive; there are no exceptions". Hence the er verb "joder" as a negative tu command would be "jodas", and you would need the indirect object pronoun "me" placed in between the "no" and the verb yielding "no me jodas" or en ingles "don't fuck with me". I even plugged "no me jodas" into the Prompt Online Translator which though imperfect I've found to be the best of the online translators and it came back with "don't fuck me".
http://www.online-translator.com/text.asp?lang=en
So I guess that wearing a t-shirt with "FARC SUCKS" on the front and "No Me Jodas" on the back probably isn't such a good idea during my 3 weeks in Cali, huh? Damn! Seriously though, I checked out the El Pais link about the bombing. It had a video clip of the aftermath. Looked more like a scene from Baghdad. Maybe some of those apartments I've been looking at might get even cheaper and make up for the loss of buying power the weakened dollar is causing.
Happy Mongering to All!
Hey Loco!!
You actually appeared semi-intellegent in that last post .... jajajaja!
I'll be back in Cali soon to help protect you :)
I had a little accidente and injured my shoulder, so I've been on a little R and R lately in the US.
Just got the doc's permiso to head down south! Gracias a Dios!
Hope to bump into you guys ... Loco y Catire
My friends & I met Nelson through another agency called CALIVIP in December. He was pretty cool and spoke English pretty well. Drove us whereever and never overcharged or begged for anything. He in fact drove us up to the statue known as Christo Rey which took a while to get up to and down from(if anyone gets a chance check out- awesome view). He never had the meter running, we offered to buy him lunch at a nice little stop off and he declined. When he dropped us off he didn't ask for anything. We gave him about 50,000 pesos between the three of us for about 4 hours of his time. All in all, seemed like a nice guy. We even offered to buy him some girls in the houses that night if he drove us around but said he had to go home to his mother so we figured him to be a mama's boy. Maybe that's his cover though.
Anyway, this is my first post on this site which I found a few weeks ago. Very informitive. I will be going back to Cali next tuesday for a week and it will be my 6th trip in the last 16 months(cant get enough). I will be staying in the south(Jardin to be exact). Anybody know if this bombing occured near this area? Just curious. Keep your fingers crossed for me non the less. Also. anyone know any good houses to go to in the south. All the good ones seem to be in the north. And any good houses to go to during the day. Is Dr Amor in the north? I think i've been there a few times but I'm always too buzzed when i get there or too tired when I'm leaving to remember the address. Any recommendations or suggestions for my trip next week would be appreciated from anyone who's been there in the last few weeks. I'll be sure to post my experiences when I get back in late April and hopefully some nice pics.
If this is the same Nelson, and I believe it is, he works out of an agency, Colombian Women . com or something like that.
Someone recommended Nelson to put an ad in a newspaper and interviewed the girls that showed up. His wife answered the ad calls and scheduled the girls for their interviews on a Saturday from 9 to 5. Cost was $500. I paid him up front, as he was recommended by a friend who had been satisfied.
He had a conceited girl with big fake knockers ride with him to meet me at the airport. Suggested I take the girl and forget about the interviews the next day.
The next day he showed me a camera that my buddy supposedly bought him as a gift. Suggested I show my appreciation too and buy him a gift.
Several of the girls were regulars from a Cali agency, or average looking friends of his wife. Only a couple were hotties and they were not too motivated... had kids, good job in Cali, etc. He made an effort to get the phone numbers of the hotties for himself, though he promised me he was faithful to his wife?
Completed the interviews but did not find any non-pros worth investing my time or money beyond the $500. BTW $500 is alot of money in Colombia, the average Colombian earns $200 a month, more or less.
Maybe some of you other gentlemen have had the same experience with Nelson?
and winner, it turns out we were both correct, but you were more correct, because of the manner you initially used the phrase.
it turns out we have two seperate, loosely tied in, but in fact different expressions.
no joda - is an expression of asombro, which means fright, amazement, astonishment. Toss out fright, because of all the circumstances I have heard it used in, it is obviously an expression of amazement, astonishment
and it can range from "you don´t say" to "you have got to be (fucking) kidding me".
It is a COLLOQUIALexpression, that is why you will not find it in any book, and this is also why no one´s gf will be able to explain to you where it comes from, gramatically (though note it stays true to grammatical form)
it is most commonly used in coastal Colombia (and Venezuela which shares much slang with coastal Colombia). The reason I whiffed on this while in CCS is because I would always hear it when groups of Venezuelans would come into the Internet cafe to play Counterstrike, which was an online virtual counterterrorist shoot them up game. I heard "no joda" probably thrice a minute. That and "verga", which is an exclamation equivalent to "fuck" (in Ven)
I figured that they were saying to each other, stop fucking with me, etc, it "fit", but actually what they were constantly expressing was surprise and shock at the manner they were getting killed/shot at. This also fits some outside situations where I heard it, where I thought "stop fucking with me" was being said as an expression of surprise, etc. That´s why I never particularly followed up on that colloqualism.
It is difficult to ascertain the proper spelling of colloqualisms, but since SPanish is a phonetic language, you can usually get it correctly. No one in Cali where they would pronounce or aspirate their s´s at end, or Caracas, where they would swallow or aspirate made the sound, therefore there is little doubt in my mind that the expression is "no joda".
then, there is also "no me jodas".
That is used when you are DIRECTLY speaking to someone, and is a very strong statement (though neither term would be used in polite company) to tell someone to stop bothering you, stop fucking with you. This would be almost the strongest thing you could say to a tout, for e.g. who would not leave you alone despite previous requests.
to accentuate what was previously said, it can never ever be no jode, or no me jodes, because that would violate an ironclad grammatical rule about the negative imperative.
for e.g.
el me molesta - he´s bothering me
no me molestEs! - don´t bother me!
estoy perdido - I am lost (from the verb perder)
no te pierdAs! - do not get lost!
so hopefully we have both learned something and I apologize if I came across as arrogant or condescending, I inevitably get into full sarcastic mode when I see people on forums such as this one post stuff on foreign languages, because 90% of the time, they don´t have a fucking clue (kind of like W claiming or media claiming he knows Spanish) Clearly you did, and I was wrong, so please accept my heartfelt apology and mea culpa.
No problema amigo. It was a nice lesson for everyone and the best part about it is while we were both correct... we also both humbly admitted that we were wrong about something. That my friend is how it should be done as opposed to some of the flaming wars you see on some of these boards.
And I can't say enough about the fantastic first hand research job done by you. Next time I'm in Cali, I'd be honored to share some experiences with you.
and winner, it turns out we were both correct, but you were more correct, because of the manner you initially used the phrase.
it turns out we have two seperate, loosely tied in, but in fact different expressions.
no joda - is an expression of asombro, which means fright, amazement, astonishment. Toss out fright, because of all the circumstances I have heard it used in, it is obviously an expression of amazement, astonishment
and it can range from "you don´t say" to "you have got to be (fucking) kidding me".
It is a COLLOQUIALexpression, that is why you will not find it in any book, and this is also why no one´s gf will be able to explain to you where it comes from, gramatically (though note it stays true to grammatical form)
it is most commonly used in coastal Colombia (and Venezuela which shares much slang with coastal Colombia). The reason I whiffed on this while in CCS is because I would always hear it when groups of Venezuelans would come into the Internet cafe to play Counterstrike, which was an online virtual counterterrorist shoot them up game. I heard "no joda" probably thrice a minute. That and "verga", which is an exclamation equivalent to "fuck" (in Ven)
I figured that they were saying to each other, stop fucking with me, etc, it "fit", but actually what they were constantly expressing was surprise and shock at the manner they were getting killed/shot at. This also fits some outside situations where I heard it, where I thought "stop fucking with me" was being said as an expression of surprise, etc. That´s why I never particularly followed up on that colloqualism.
It is difficult to ascertain the proper spelling of colloqualisms, but since SPanish is a phonetic language, you can usually get it correctly. No one in Cali where they would pronounce or aspirate their s´s at end, or Caracas, where they would swallow or aspirate made the sound, therefore there is little doubt in my mind that the expression is "no joda".
then, there is also "no me jodas".
That is used when you are DIRECTLY speaking to someone, and is a very strong statement (though neither term would be used in polite company) to tell someone to stop bothering you, stop fucking with you. This would be almost the strongest thing you could say to a tout, for e.g. who would not leave you alone despite previous requests.
to accentuate what was previously said, it can never ever be no jode, or no me jodes, because that would violate an ironclad grammatical rule about the negative imperative.
for e.g.
el me molesta - he´s bothering me
no me molestEs! - don´t bother me!
estoy perdido - I am lost (from the verb perder)
no te pierdAs! - do not get lost!
so hopefully we have both learned something and I apologize if I came across as arrogant or condescending, I inevitably get into full sarcastic mode when I see people on forums such as this one post stuff on foreign languages, because 90% of the time, they don´t have a fucking clue (kind of like W claiming or media claiming he knows Spanish) Clearly you did, and I was wrong, so please accept my heartfelt apology and mea culpa.
Hey Loco!!
I had a little accidente and injured my shoulder, so I've been on a little R and R lately in the US.
Just got the doc's permiso to head down south! Gracias a Dios!
Hope to bump into you guys ... Loco y Catire
I went to the drugstore today to inquire about some fairly well known antibiotics that some of us might need from time to time.
I got what I wanted, 3 pills of 500 mg for 7000 pesos (this was generic, the brand name costs 28000 pesos). Therefore I paid $3.50 US for something and it took me 30 seconds.
Now let´s compare this to the fucking scam pulled on people in the "home of the brave and land of the free".
I have to make a fucking appointment with some quack, for which I have to wait at least several days.
then, you wait at least 30 minutes, often past your appointed time to see the quack who will see you for 3 minutes and in effect tell you what you already know and prescribe what you already knew he´d prescribe. You or your insurance company will be charged $100 US or more for this "visit".
then you go the fucking pharmacy, you have to wait at least 20 minutes for them to "fill your prescription" and when you finally get it, probably even the generic version will cost you at least $15 US.
so let´s compare the experience and the hassle and the cost.
I can´t wait until some assclown customs officer asks me about these drugs I am bringing back for personal use so I can unload on his clown ass.
(it´s technically illegal to bring back drugs to the US for personal use, but so long as it´s for personal use (in terms of quantity) the FDA has never prosecuted anyone for such a thing.). I suppose I won´t unload on the assclown because technically he could take my shit away.
but this is one of the things that really fucking pisses me off.
Ricker if you want to "bump into me", you will have to call me (hopefully you have my local number, or PM me, email me and tell me where,what time to meet in advance)
Is Dr Amor in the north? I think i've been there a few times but I'm always too buzzed when i get there or too tired when I'm leaving to remember the address.
Potts6,
Yes, Dr. Amor is in the North.
Clínica del Doctor Amor. Avenida 2N # 23-33. Everyday from 9am till 8pm.
Best days to go are Thursday thru Saturday between 1:30pm to 5pm for the most/best selection of women.
Most are young girls but there are a few more experienced women that really know how to please a man. I included a pic of one of the VIP gals.
Instead of the Doctor being IN, I was IN this Doctor.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Shortly after register to my hotel, I went out to find my favourite pleasure.
I wanted to try Chicas del norte (Ave 2bis, Norte 28N57) as someone reported this place to be good.
My taxi had some difficulties to find it, but he finally did it and left me in front of a typical Casa with the classical boy outside which happened to be a girl.
I entered and they ask me if I wanted a drink or see the girls immediately.
I asked for the girls but they only had 3, and none of them were attractive to me.
So I left and went next door to the right where there is another casa.
Once again, they had only 3 girls.
One was a nice morenita, and I asked to talk to her to ask her if she would do anal.
As she said no, I left the place.
I walked to the left, passed the traffic light and arrived to another place with casas.
I entered the first one (Ave 2bis Norte 34N35), there are more casas next doors, and was introduced to 6 girls.
3 of them were doable to me.
They had a skinny white girl and 2 morenitas.
One of the morenita was very tall and very skinny.
I asked her if she would do anal, and she said yes, I asked then if she would do BBBJ and, once again, she said yes.}So, what are we waiting for ? Let’s go !!!
She asked me 80 for 1 hour with anal, + 2 for the 2 condoms.
I paid and we went upstairs.
The house, in general, is not in a very good shape, but the rooms were some how better, with a real bed in a reasonable shape, lots of light.
As usual, sheets are not changed between customers, and you’d better forget about that if you want to have a good time.
We first went to the shower, outside the room, with cold water, and started the mutual exploration, but as the water was really chilly, I didn’t remain for long there.
We then went back to the room, and started with my favourite tongue’s game, exploring each other.
I must say that Claudia is very clean and has no bad flavour in her heaven’s and hell’s gates.
She sucks very well (uncovered), and at my request, interest herself in my back door.
After more than 15 minutes of this, we were ready for the next step.
Claudia covered me and we started with the classical missionary, doggy, on side, …
Of course, I didn’t forget the hell’s gate, and controlled myself to remain hard, but willing to explore some darker zone of Claudia.
We then start the real thing and, she was not very comfortable because she was not used to practice anal. It must have been her 4th or 5th intent and it was painful for her, but she could stand it, and she started to relax herself and things went better.
Once again, we did several positions, and I really enjoyed myself with Claudia’s ass.
After a very long time, she asked to go to the rest room, and I did what I had to do to remain in good shape.
When she came back, we only had 10 minutes left, so we played a little bit with her pussy, and then, as I was not having so good sensations, I took the condom out and asked her to finger me and to suck hard.
She said ok if I would not come in her mouth, and that was not a problem at all for me.
So she did the job, and she did it good, until I couldn’t stand it anymore and came very strongly.
I asked for a 2 minutes rest and, after recovering, for a short shower because I was sweating for so much activity in the warm night of Cali.
When we came back to the room, we talked a little bit, because the hour was more than over and they had called her downstairs.
She said that she wanted to quit in a while to take care of her baby, and that she wouldn’t accept anal any more (what a pity !!!).
So I tipped her with 20KCop and left back in taxi to my hotel.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
This afternoon, I managed to be free at 4:30pm.
So I left my hotel and asked the taxi driver to take me to the Clinica del Dr Amor (Ave 2N 23-xx).
After some difficulty, he finally found it and I got in the place.
When I entered, I had a chock, there was 15 guys seated and waiting !!!
I asked to the manager, what happened and he asked me to seat and relax, because the girls would come for a presentation.
The place is good and looks classy, especially for Cali´s standards.
One thing amazed me : they have cameras registering the activity !!!
That’s the very first time I see that in a *****house, imaging the blackmail possibilities ???
After a minute or so, girls started to present themselves.
I saw 6 girls that afternoon; none was of my taste…
Then several guys left the place and I thought that I’d wait 10 more minutes to see if some other girls would show up.
Unfortunately, after 5 very boring minutes, no new girl had arrived, so I left and decided to go to the Casa del Marquez (Ave 2a norte 3N-23), but I was enable to found it? I have walked several times around the block, but I couldn’t find the Ave 2A norte 23.
So, I decided to look for La casita del Rio Arte (Ave 2aN 24N-105).
Same thing again, I have not been able to found Ave 2aN 24N
Looks like that Ave 2a only exist with calle 22…
Finaly, I looked to Calle 23aN 2N-95, and, at last, I have been able to find it !!!
When I got in, the place had 7 guys seated, having a beer or waiting for something.
The door keeper seated me and asked me if I wanted a drink or rather wait for the girls presentation.
After a short time, Girls started to present themselves and I saw something like 15 girls.
2 or 3 were of my taste and I asked for a not so young brunette with nice long hair, slim body and good tits.
She came and we started to talk business.
She would do anything but BBBJ and anal : Just what I was looking for…
So, we mutually decided not to go.
She talked to the guy in charge, and he came to me, and told me that if I wanted something special, it would be better to ask him first so he would send me the adequate girls.
I explained him my wishes and he sent me a girl that was not of my taste because she was too fat and had a big belly… But he recommended her telling me that he guaranteed her behaviour…
So I start to talk with her and she was not chocked by my demands, so I decided to try her, as I always think, it’s better to go with a not so good looking girl if she is really good, and I have been with some 10 that had a very poor behaviour, and that left me very frustrated.
Believe it or not, I didn’t ask her name and I can’t remember the name she told me when she presented herself.
I asked for the price and she told me 80KCop for an hour with anal.
That’s a good price if the girl behaves well.
We had to wait almost 10 minutes to get a room.
Meanwhile, I saw some other very doable girls coming from upstairs…
Finally, we went to the room, and got naked.
Room is very simple, but clean and had a good light, and a good, comfortable, hard bed.
There was an open window that gave on the entrance on Calle 23aN, so the room could had some fresh air.
She had her third baby 4 months ago, and so she is still with a big belly…
Her face is … normal, she has dark mid size hairs, and she doesn’t talk too much.
We decided to start with a shower, but the shower was busy…
So we went back to the room and start some action.
She started a good BBBJ and I start to lick her pussy and to explore around the pussy…
We did that for quite a while and she was moaning from time to time, so I left her on her back and put my head between her legs to give her a very good licking time.
She responded to my attention and after some 10 minutes of intense licking and fingering, I think that she finally reached climax… Well, at last, she gave me a good representation if it was simulated, but she was breathless and exhausted.
So I lay down with her and start to rub my best friend between heaven’s and hell’s door.
I was still uncovered, and she didn’t felt safe with that game, and to say the truth, I was willing to get in so hard that I had to stop to be able to control me.
So, finally I covered myself and start in missionary position, opening widely and fingering that nice ass. Boys, screwing while you finger the ass, is a strong feeling !!! And it’s even stronger to me when I do the contrary.
After some minutes, I left the heaven’s door to visit the hell’s door.
Unfortunately, even though I prepared her fingering her ass, she couldn’t stand me in doggy, so she lay down and invited me to enter, but once again, she couldn’t stand the pain.
So I proposed her to relax and try it laying on the side, and at last, she could stand it and I did her like this for more than 10 minutes meanwhile I was fingering her pussy.
I was so exhausted that I had to stop several times.
Finally, I reached climax and came very strongly. I then kept her in my arms to recover, but I was really without strength.
After recovering and leaving her hell’s door, I asked for a shower because I was really sweating.
That time, the shower was free and we could bath (with cold water) to refresh ourselves.
Then we went back to the room, I asked for pictures, but she didn’t want it because she is very afraid that somebody she knew could see her. I told her that I’d take the picture without her face, but she really didn’t want that, so, as she was not that good looking, I didn’t insist, and we talked a little bit about her (difficult) life, dressed up, and left the room after paying her 80Kcop + 20 K for tip.
She had no cell neither because she was robbed 10 days ago, but she proposed me to meet again next day, I wish I could, but I have to leave Cali tomorrow early…
When we were going downstairs, she stopped and watched the guys that were seated in the room, waiting for a girl to come.
She explained me that all the girls look carefully before they entered the room, because they had had several cases that a known person or a relative was in the room.
I now understand why girls are presented one by one in so many places.
I said goodbye and then walked a little bit and took a taxi back to my hotel.
By the way, this time I was in the Intercontinental, I asked the reception if I could come with an escort and if they had a fee for that.
Response : Yes, 77Kcop (that’s just crazy!!!).
Enjoy…
... She had no cell neither because she was robbed 10 days ago ...
Nice report amigo!
Just a side note. These robberies in Cali are getting even more common.
My girlfriend called me yesterday from Cali. She was on a bicycle, nothing fancy, and some asshole wth a knife tried to rob her of it and more.
She said luckily it was during the day, other people heard the commotion and chased the guy away.
Nice chicas for sure, but ten cuidado (be careful)!
Master Yoda
04-13-07, 14:43
Ricker,
Sometimes I wonder if its even worth going to Cali.
I mean there is a good chance nothing will happen but its just the fact the women are so damn hot.
Is Cali your favorite town?
MiamiHeatLuver
04-13-07, 17:23
My novia was robbed for her cell that i bought her by 3 guys and 1 girl on two motorcylcles. Now when she goes out she doesnt bring her cell phone, instead she swaps the sim card into an old old NOKIA, shame to have to do that now..
FARC, is making a strong comeback and targeting
CALI as their stronghold and base of operations. and Just as I thought things might be improving slightly there. Just spoke to the novia, she is getting a little shaken up about Cali and its turn for the worse and told me its all over (RCN AND CARACOL).
• Region's governor says FARC rebels are initial suspects in Cali car bombing
• One person killed and 34 injured when bomb goes off in front of police barracks
• At least 40 stores and houses damaged in blast in Colombia's third-largest city
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BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) -- A powerful car bomb exploded Monday in front of police barracks in the southwest city of Cali, Colombia, killing one person and injuring 34, the region's governor said.
Gov. Angelino Garzon told Caracol radio that "the first theory we're going with is that it's the work of the FARC," referring to the country's largest leftist rebel group, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia.
"Although we cannot rule out other illegal groups, whether it's drug traffickers, paramilitaries or common criminals."
The explosion killed a taxi driver who was passing the car when the bomb was detonated. The blast also injured 19 officers in the barracks, and 15 civilians on the street outside. I will regretebably postpone my monthy trip till things calm down a little, Rather be safe than sorry.
At least 40 stores and houses were damaged.
Cali, Colombia's third largest city about 185 miles (300 kilometers) southwest of the capital of Bogota, is the site of a vicious turf war between leftist rebels, far-right paramilitaries and rival drug traffickers.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/04/09/colombia.bombing.ap/index.html
http://www.elpais.com.co/paisonline/especiales/policia_atentado/notas/Abril092007/bomba2.html
MiamiHeatLuver
04-13-07, 17:29
If you go keep your guard up!
Hello all, After going to Cali every six weeks for the past year and a half a bit of violence finally hit home,, after a nice fun filled day with the NOVIA in el centro, on the way home in the taxi we stopped at my apartamento and she gets out to open the door and puts the key in the door to open it, i tell the cab driver to drive on, because i was on my way for a 7pm massage apointment, I get a call two minutes later from her brother panicking on is cell phone that my baby was held-up two minutes ago in front of the apratment by 3 men and one woman on dirt bikes, who strongheld her and physically removed her cell phone, told her to be quiet OR ELSE and then sped-off and left her physically and emotionally in distress, I get home to find her crumbled-up on the kitchen floor in shock and unstopable crying, i try to console her to no avail, telling her that thank-god she is alive and not hurt or dead and that the superficial products can be easily replaced, and thank-god that that they didnt go into the apartment and rob the place WITH ALL MY STUFF including laptop and ipod, etc etc, why didnt they go in? because this was a random act and they didnt know whom or what was waiting for them inside, my CUNADO told me that this was a random normal day in CALI and just another statistic, which i sorrily agree to, but this really hit close to home and opened my eyes even more, to see this once proud, beautiful, strong CALENA, reduced to a mere statistic! ON ANOTHER NOTE, a very good friend of mine who is in CTG, the same times as me during the feria in CALI, HAS just told me that girls in CTG are asking for 300k ST and Beach girls are asking 150k, CHEAPEST or walking!!, i dont know if this is because it is peak season or something here to stay,, now take it, this is coming from the mouth of a very seasoned monger who has been in COLOMBIA, DR, CR, BRAZIL and CUBA! ITS official, CTG is RUINED and ANOTHER CR, end of story! which city will be next? Peace mongers and be safe "CHINO"
have come to believe casas suck. And I will tell you why they suck. (even considering they SUCK with a RUBBER, which really is so incomprehensible to me I would rather whack off, at the least I would Never ever ever PAY to get a covered BJ)
and a taxista confirmed this for me, as we discussed how these places are all set up because they are all set up the same way.
He took me down south to casa , which had a disco style sitting arrangement (I told him I preferred the ambience in a place like Escoces), but what happened? the same fucking thing that happens at EVERY casa.
about 20 girls came over, shook your hand, told you their name and then walked away. Of course, given such a number within such a short time I almost immediately would forget all the fucking names and then the girls would disappear toward the back to their table(s) sitting with themselves.
you get no play, never a sly smile, not even a wink. You get NOTHING.
This means you are just a number to them, just as they are a number to you.
This effectively means you are spinning the roulette table each and every time, shaking the dice in your hand thinking, "do you feel lucky punk?".
Yeah, sure you can call a girl over and try to establish something, but it´s quite difficult to break thru their usual "client wall" and even then you don´t even really know which one or which ones to call over. I almost always seperate the ones I´d see into "ones I´d fuck" and others I would not. Then it´s up to the ones in the ones I´d fuck group to somehow differentiate themselves, grab my attention, be a coquette, WHATEVER.
this all according to the old tradition of "let the girl pick you" which at least some of us here subscribe to (I certainly do). this will never ever happen in a casa. You will not be picked. Ever. You will not even be noticed. You are a number, and she is a number.
Roll the dice and take your chances. I don´t pŕy $ to take sexual chances. (at the very least I think the odds are on my side) Perhaps places like Rio and the DR a while back (and Cuba) forever spoiled me with this.
even in a fucking Asian South Eastern fishbowl the girls will give you some feedback, even if it´s acting.
you will get NONE in a casa. And without sounding arrogant if I don´t get some kind of verbal and or physical feedback, the odds of some "typical monger" getting some is completely nonexistent.
and re asking for something like anal (bbbj is somewhat different), it is my personal conviction that even if the girl thinks about a dick in her ass 24 hours a day, if she doesn´t know you and isn´t comfortable with you, when presented with such a blunt question, she won´t readily admit to her craving. It´s a cultural thing, a "what kind of a girl do you think I am" kind of thing though yes in a casa more girls will probably be blunt.
if you go to a place like Cali merely to prowl the casas and to find what are merely new "numeric" holes for you to stick your dick into, you may want to reexamine your life and what you are doing with it. If it´s a mere bluballs release, that is what they are there for but then crawling around them all day for a week etc wouldn´t qualify as such, eh?
you are free to disagree of course, but that is my opinion. (and since I´ve already stated it, fully this time, I won´t return to the subject)
p.s. any lists, secret lists and secret places, places to share, etc etc etc
this fucking makes me laugh. really really laugh. Find yourself a decent taxi driver.
Casas de cita (what Colombians call them) are probably the most developed industry in this city. There are probably at least a hundred of them, probably more, and that´s not including some of the "spas" up north that readily and easily offer full service. Some of the casas are open 24 hours a day, as a matter of fact, I´ve just discovered a place 2 doors away from my hospedaje is 24 hour casa HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Some may be better than others, but often it merely depends on the night, and what girls are working, etc.
so please, just remember what you are doing is blowing hot air into your fist and rolling the dice, hoping for craps. If I´m going to pay, I insist on better odds.
so just ask yourself - do you feel lucky, punk?
Col Bog, thanks for the report.-
I am pretty sure Casa de Marquez got assimilated into Dr Amor some time ago. They have a couple of houses joined together at Dr Amor... I think the second house used to be CdM.
Member #4351
04-13-07, 23:26
I know what you are talking about Catire, but sometimes things work out. I picked a cutie at one of the casas and ended up getting along well with her since she was a super freak and up for just about anything. She gave me her cell number and my next trip to Cali she met me at the Inter. That said, I had to go through more than 10 casas driving all over Cali and wasting a lot of time until I got lucky. Next trip I´m going to give her another call.
Have come to believe casas suck. A taxista confirmed for me how these places are all set up because they are all set up the same way. Any lists, secret lists and secret places, places to share, etc etc etc this fucking makes me laugh. really really laugh. Casas de cita (what Colombians call them) are probably the most developed industry in this city. There are probably at least a hundred of them, probably more.
(A Catire quote from a post 4-1-07) I have not prowled thru the casas at all, merely stuck my head in a couple of times and only to about five thus far, with frankly little to no desire to go beyond that number.
Catire,
You have merely stuck your head into FIVE casas and you think ALL Cali Casas suck because some taxi driver told you they are all the same? Well my friend, it is me who is laughing because I have been to/explored/fucked at/been very pleased with/been quite disgusted with etc... about 70 Casas de Cita in Cali thus far. I can say from EXPERIENCE that there are some Casas that are VERY different than what you have seen. I also came across a few Casas that VERY FEW GINGOS even know of and a couple of places (not Casas per say) are so new that NO GRINGOS had ever been to them before my Gringo ass graced their doorway.
I am pretty sure Casa de Marquez got assimilated into Dr. Amor some time ago.
Cachorro,
From talking to one of the maids at Dr. Amor, you are right that Casa de Marquez was the name used about 4 years ago.
This afternoon, I managed to be free at 4:30pm.
So I left my hotel and asked the taxi driver to take me to the Clinica del Dr Amor (Ave 2N 23-xx).
After some difficulty, he finally found it and I got in the place.
Col Bog 1,
Your difficulty in finding Dr. Amor's was because the address is NOT Ave 2N 23-xx. The address is Ave 2A Norte #23-33. The "A" after the number (Ave 2) makes it a totally different street location.
I'm glad you were pleased at Calle 23aN 2N-95. By the way the name of this place is "Ropa de Bebe". The gay gentleman that served you is my friend. He will make every effort to match you up with a girl that does hat you are looking for. Yes sometimes they lack great looks but none are ever doggy. I have had plenty of BBBJ's there but do not prefer anal and I don't DATY in high traffic Casas no matter how good the pussy looks like.
Here's one at Ropa de Bebe that gave excellent BBBJ and after a while went bare back all the way, tight pussy as well.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Catire,
You have merely stuck your head into FIVE casas and you think ALL Cali Casas suck because some taxi driver told you they are all the same? Well my friend, it is me who is laughing because I have been to/explored/fucked at/been very pleased with/been quite disgusted with etc... about 70 Casas de Cita in Cali thus far. I can say from EXPERIENCE that there are some Casas that are VERY different than what you have seen. I also came asorss a few Casas that VERY FEW GINGOS even know of and a couple of places (not Casas per say) are so new that NO GRINGOS had ever been to them before my Gringo ass graced their doorway.
Cubanut
I´m probably up to 10-12 now and I am pretty sure it won´t be any more.
I NEVER said they are all the same, I said the "setup" is the same (bunch of girls come over offer their hand, say their name and then leave to sit in a corner among themselves). You seem to have missed my POINT entirely, which is how I personally strongly prefer a little interplay/interaction between myself and a girl even BEFORE I call her over. This is called "salesmanship", some of the girls are very good at it, but a trained eye can typically spot the fake (though some of the girls are so good it almost doesn´t matter LOL ), and more often than not, you find yourself a girl who actually is interested in you for other reasons than your monger money (she already knows she´s going to get paid, it´s icing on the cake) , you can establish some "chemistry" before taking her into a room and then the odds are in your favor.
This happens all the time for e.g. in a place like a Rio termas, and needless to say, pricing aside, the Rio termas experience is highly superior to a Cali casa experience in every way.
sure the settings and even the talent and the pricing, etc will differ among so many casas. And of course, it also depends on the DAY in question because rarely does a girl work every night.
but my BASIC point is it does NOT MATTER, because the "set up" is the SAME.
all over the place, essentially. You are a number, they are a number and you are rolling dice. Perhaps it´s the "true monger´s" dream because under this scenario every john is the same, you are an appendage and ATM and they are a hole, and you can put up reviews, etc etc (even though this is basically bs as well)
the so called "gringo factor" also does NOT MATTER, because the vast majority in all of these casas, even the ones most frequented by gringos of the clientele is COLOMBIAN and of course the set up and the experience is set up for Colombian tastes. So frankly, who really gives a shit that you have been to some casas no gringos have been to? and how are they different in the setup I talk about? they are not. Interestingly enough the times I have stuck my head into some of these casas, including some in the south that have never been mentioned anywhere, I have yet to see a gringo, probably because I stick my head in there late evening or at night. If that is something that is so important for someone, simply learn to say in Spanish to a taxista, take me to places I´ll never find a gringo, and voila. If you your Spanish is good enough to converse and indicate what you are looking for, you will find someone to take you where and for what you are looking for.
a good example would be the one time I stuck my head into Clinica de Amor one late afternoon. The place was fairly full and there was not a SINGLE gringo there btw (though this may be one of the most popular gringo visited casas). Guess what? The kid working there quickly ascertained I spoke Spanish, took me aside and did a full blown explanation for me for more than 10 mins , almost acting like a "papasan", telling me all I have to do is tell him what I am looking for (bbbj, anal for e.g.) and he will tell me which girls do this, as well as just overall recommendations, takeout, etc. etc you name it. Despite the fact I usually strongly eschew so called mamasans and papasans, tthis was done in such a non stressful and non sleazy manner, I actually appreciated it. It was almost like having a buddy kind of showing you the ropes. So you see it´s really not rocket science, all you need to know is to speak Spanish.
but good luck with your casa scouring, perhaps you´ll be able to publish a casa guide for idiots and make some money off it. There most certainly are suckers born every minute.
p.s. David33, you are most certainly correct. I am sure if I had nothing to do but get to know various casa girls I could build up an impressive black book for housecalls. But this will take time, effort and some luck. (certainly one can get lucky early on, in fact my first time in a casa I encountered a girl who was there for her 2nd night and had yet to be with a "john". I smelled her out a mile away and of course I spent an hour with her, it was highly worthwhile. If I return here for a longer term stay as I am considering I may even try that approach.
Col Bog, thanks for the report.-
I am pretty sure Casa de Marquez got assimilated into Dr Amor some time ago. They have a couple of houses joined together at Dr Amor... I think the second house used to be CdM.Hi Cachorro.
Yes, I have been told the same.
Dr Amor absorbed the neighbours houses including CdM.
I noted the address in a good post that gives Cali's best place addresses and it would be good if someone could update that information.
Thanks
Col Bog 1,
Your difficulty in finding Dr. Amor's was because the address is NOT Ave 2N 23-xx. The address is Ave 2A Norte #23-33. The "A" after the number (Ave 2) makes it a totally different street location.
I'm glad you were pleased at Calle 23aN 2N-95. By the way the name of this place is "Ropa de Bebe". The gay gentleman that served you is my friend. He will make every effort to match you up with a girl that does hat you are looking for. Yes sometimes they lack great looks but none are ever doggy. I have had plenty of BBBJ's there but do not prefer anal and I don't DATY in high traffic Casas no matter how good the pussy looks like.
Here's one at Ropa de Bebe that gave excellent BBBJ and after a while went bare back all the way, tight pussy as well.
Cheers,
CubanutHi Cubanut.
I wrote Ave 2N 23-xx because I didn't had the exact address, but when you have both Ave and Calle, you may found a place even if it has no sign on its door if you're lucky.
But in that case I took no chance and said to my Taxi's driver that I was going to Dr Amor's clinic, and, as it was said in some other posts, all taxis known the place. Even if mine had some trouble to remember.
For the Ave 2 and 2A, yes, I know that it means (usually) the next carrera. In fact, I was able to find the Ave 2A, but it stopped at calle 23 and didn't exist anymore in higher Calle.
I walked around the block 3 times, and saw some more places with girls on Ave 2 but they were very lowscale.
If you walk one block to the right of Dr Amor's clinic, you find Farahon's club that is only opened at night.
I was impressed of the quality and quantity of the girls at Ropa de Bebe.
I noticed that the gentleman (as you said) was a Gay and he really helped me advising me well.
I'm surprise that you don't DATY but perform BBFS.
What's the logic?
I'm just crazy about DATY and anal and can't resist sucking off a nice pussy and ass, don't know why, but I'm like that.
But I try (I fail some times) to resist going BBFS, look like much more risky.
Thanks
I´m probably up to 10-12 now and I am pretty sure it won´t be any more.
I NEVER said they are all the same, I said the "setup" is the same (bunch of girls come over offer their hand, say their name and then leave to sit in a corner among themselves). You seem to have missed my POINT entirely, which is how I personally strongly prefer a little interplay/interaction between myself and a girl even BEFORE I call her over. This is called "salesmanship", some of the girls are very good at it, but a trained eye can typically spot the fake (though some of the girls are so good it almost doesn´t matter LOL ), and more often than not, you find yourself a girl who actually is interested in you for other reasons than your monger money (she already knows she´s going to get paid, it´s icing on the cake) , you can establish some "chemistry" before taking her into a room and then the odds are in your favor.
This happens all the time for e.g. in a place like a Rio termas, and needless to say, pricing aside, the Rio termas experience is highly superior to a Cali casa experience in every way.
Catire,
Stop it!, Please, I'm hurting myself cracking up laughing! You actually think the "Setup" is all the same as well? Well "yeah", if all you do is tell a taxi driver to take you to "Casas" what did you expect?
Do you really think Rio termas are the only places where a monger can smell out a girl first before making a decision to be intimate? Believe me I know a thing or two about Rio termas since I have been going to Rio as well for over 14 years now.
Apparently or actually (to be more precise) you definitely missed MY POINT. There are MANY places where you can sit and talk/dance/drink with girls for a short or long while before deciding to do the deed. These were the places i found that were not really "Casas" per say. I found Night Clubs that are not even advertised because the "in the know" clientel is more than sufficient to support the number of chicas that work there. Also like I said before I even found a couple of places that are trying some "new concepts" and I must say I was very pleased.
For example: Here's one concept that is different than the regular "setup". I found a place that specializes in orgies. You enter as a couple to get in. Oh yeah, if you don't have a girl to make up your couple, you can rent one on the spot that will be happy to participate in the cum-fest!
The point I was really making was that you are making general assumptions about mongering in Cali based on very little first hand experience.
Cubanut has never been to Colombia and made love to a non-pro.
Barefoot Chap,
Assuming that by non-pro you mean a girl that can potentially be a "true love", this is absolutely correct. I'll repeat what I have written before on this board and many others for YEARS now: I am in no way interested in finding a "true love". I did all my "free loving" throughout the 80's and early 90's and am way beyond that now. I like the no time/no effort of mongering to bed down with many rather than long time ass kissing to bed down with one.
However, although making love to a non-pro is of no interest to me, I do have many non-pro Colombianas that I party with or just sometimes just hang with. I prefer it this way.
Natalia went to cartagena with us and she didin't charge anything then. From what I hear they all are p4p now. It just makes sense to charge as long as there are men willing to pay. I never pulled out a penny for them directly, but did buy lots of dinners, plane tickets, bathing suits, ron de medellin, clothes........It costs more but it is the way I like it.
So Barefoot Chap, I guess this means you haven't made love to a non-pro in Colombia either. It seems you just like paying a lot more for your pussy than I do.
Sorry for the flame but it is true and it irritates me when he (Cubanut) writes his little love letters and quotes. I blame him and his two left feet and lack of Spanish for ruining Cuba. Actually, Cuba is really nice but that is for another day.
Huh? (Ok I admit you got me scratching my head on this one.) The last time I looked down I had a right and left foot. Also I can't remember the last time any native Spanish speaker did not think I was fluent in Spanish. And as for ME ruining Cuba? Well, Barefoot, I don't know what your "on" but whatever it is, it's obviously not good for you.
I will always book trips to places without so many gringos because I like the adventure. Viva Colombia! I also have a lot of respect for other global travelers willing to explore the not so explored.
Funny that you should say this but yet have no respect for "yours truly" being one of those who travels the globe to explore the not so explored.
I have never been to Cali but last night I banged a 24 year old Cali girl living in the states. Well I don't see any reason for me to go to Colombia anytime soon as there are so many Colombians here in the states. Why go to colombia when colombia can come to you?
So Barefoot Chap, you have never been to Cali yet you go out of your way to flame me out here on the Cali Reports thread? For what reason may I ask?
Cheers,
Cubanut
Ricker,
Sometimes I wonder if its even worth going to Cali.
I mean there is a good chance nothing will happen but its just the fact the women are so damn hot.
Is Cali your favorite town?
Every city I go to in Colombia the chicas are hot! :)
My favorite city for walking about and exploring is Medellin, for a party is Cali and for meeting non-pro chicas is Barranquilla (I love las costenitas!)
Of course I find the Paisitas of Medellin pretty, but I personally prefer the darker skin and the rear-ends of the costenas :) Just my own preference.
Also, I've had several Paisa girlfriends and can anyone say "mucha drama" ... drama filled in my experience.
Cali, without a doubt, feels the most dangerous.
I don't walk around afraid, but I definitely keep my guard up a bit more.
Here's a little Calena I met a while back.
Suerte!
Cubanut, Sorry about wasting your time! I just knew you would go through the forum for hours trying to find my posts so you could counter. You should try to post relavent information. Since this forum is your social life I think you should do a report on the close proximity of the pacific coastline to Cali and how we as Americans can profit by developing or discoveriing the beaches there. Obviously the colombians have no interest in it. Given the prices of pacific coast properties in the USA, Costa Rica, Panama, Mexico, Canada.......I have to be on to something. I want more than just pussy reports. The following should sum it up and end all reports on pussy....There are girls in colombia, you'll get laid for sure in colombia, you shouldn't have to pay for it, they should pay us. Now instead of talking about dark rooms with poor colombians lets talk about bright and sunny rooms with hot colombians in your future cubanut mansion on the pacific! I need to be more engaged than this forum is offering at the moment.
Barefoot Chap,
Actually it only took about 5 minutes because most of what you write is self contradicting, so I had a lot to choose from.
I don't know why you would think I would be interesed in "coastal property" but if that is your thing and you say you "must be onto something" then run with it brother. I could care less for beach.
I do like where you say the the chicas should be paying us for sex but that is not a reality my friend.
As for your idea for everyone to end all reports on pussy: Why? Why does it bother you that men write reports on pussy? This is a Report Thread in case you haven't noticed. Your ramblings belong elsewhere.
Oh wait, I know the solution, it's quite obvious:
ATTENTION JACKSON! I hereby respectfully request that you grant Barefoot Chap his own Thread so that he (Barefoot Chap) may share his wonderful experiences of NOT going to Colombia with us. Afterall it will not use up much band width since there will be absolutely no talk of pussy on Barefoot Chap's thread. However I'm sure it will serve all well to tell us where to find the nicest seashells.
Cheers,
Cubanut
PS. Here's a Bright and Sunny room for you with a not so poor Colombiana.
MiamiHeatLuver
04-14-07, 22:51
I saw it there, read it, now its gone!
Master Yoda
04-14-07, 23:01
Every city I go to in Colombia the chicas are hot! :)
My favorite city for walking about and exploring is Medellin, for a party is Cali and for meeting non-pro chicas is Barranquilla (I love las costenitas!)
Of course I find the Paisitas of Medellin pretty, but I personally prefer the darker skin and the rear-ends of the costenas :) Just my own preference.
Also, I've had several Paisa girlfriends and can anyone say "mucha drama" ... drama filled in my experience.
Cali, without a doubt, feels the most dangerous.
I don't walk around afraid, but I definitely keep my guard up a bit more.
Here's a little Calena I met a while back.
Suerte! I like Cali too as well as BAQ. I am not really interested in Medellin either. I mean I am sure the women are hot but like you I prefer the Morena y Triguena look which seems to be mostly in BAQ and Cali. Med has lots of blancas.
The problem with Cali is most women I speak to seem to online, that are from Cali, already have kids, which is a little fucked up. I have a hard time finding childless pussy.
I just don't like damaged goods. The pussy just isn't as tight
Catire,
Stop it!, Please, I'm hurting myself cracking up laughing! You actually think the "Setup" is all the same as well? Well "yeah", if all you do is tell a taxi driver to take you to "Casas" what did you expect?
Do you really think Rio termas are the only places where a monger can smell out a girl first before making a decision to be intimate? Believe me I know a thing or two about Rio termas since I have been going to Rio as well for over 14 years now.
Apparently or actually (to be more precise) you definitely missed MY POINT. There are MANY places where you can sit and talk/dance/drink with girls for a short or long while before deciding to do the deed. These were the places i found that were not really "Casas" per say. I found Night Clubs that are not even advertised because the "in the know" clientel is more than sufficient to support the number of chicas that work there. Also like I said before I even found a couple of places that are trying some "new concepts" and I must say I was very pleased.
For example: Here's one concept that is different than the regular "setup". I found a place that specializes in orgies. You enter as a couple to get in. Oh yeah, if you don't have a girl to make up your couple, you can rent one on the spot that will be happy to participate in the cum-fest!
The point I was really making was that you are making general assumptions about mongering in Cali based on very little first hand experience.
Cubanut
Dude, please.
yes, my first hand "mongering experience" isn´t nearly as extensive as yours and that is entirely by choice and will continue to be that way as I don´t travel merely to fuck, but my assumptions aren´t incorrect in what I was talking about. I can usually find out thru conversation in any environment with several people precisely what such an environment and others like it are like. Since I´m a curious sort, I tend to have such conversations, and more so with the girls, for eg. than taxistas.
I told the taxista PRECISELY what I was looking for and I told him PRECISELY what I do not like about the typical casa setup etc. Though I will make errors in my Spanish, a source of continuous frustration, I never ever ever have any problems with communication, specific communication or even having a fairly detailed argument about something. He merely confirmed to me even while taking me to a casa with a different "ambiance" that the basic setup is the same.
and of course I am citing rather extreme examples and metaphors to make a point, though I stand by that point. I have had girls come up to me and talk to me, even in a casa, my point is this is definitely the exception rather than the rule.
I know about your "nightclubs" too. It would be the "mongering ambiance" of my preference where you do get the interplay, etc. They are to be found on Carrera Quince. There are lots of them. What I don´t like about them are the high take out multas, I don´t like to fuck "in house" and on a clock. It might be fairly dangerous for a tourist to go there though so do so at your own risk.
I should probably in fairness also point out I have a definite issue to fucking something that has already been fucked several times, or many more that very same day (even in a rio terma) which is an issue with casa and I don´t fuck during the day, so I won´t try stunts like being the first one there when they open, etc.
I also know about your swinger´s club. They advertise regularly in ElPais in the adults classified section.
so what else are you going to tell me in great secrecy , oh great " first hand monger researcher"?
if you think you have stumbled upon the concept of "getting away from the gringos", you are sadly mistaken, I would be Chairman of the Board or at least on the Board of Directors of any such organization, especially when it comes to sex tourist related activities (as a rule of thumb you won`t find me within 300 yards of a place like Medellin Mansion or any such facsimile)
but please, don´t mind me, carry on with your "research", I am sure many here appreciate it and I´d hate to deflate your raison d' etre.
on the point of "gringos fucking things up", etc, as much as I basically agree with the concept, I still don´t see a single shred of evidence that this has changed the Cali P4P scene in any way shape or form. Even in the most popular gringo visited establishments, the overwhelming majority of the clientele is and remains Colombian. Ergo, no shred of evidence to support this hypothesis, as much as I´d like to support it. What´s interesting is that during my stay here thus far I have bumped into very few gringos/extranjeros period, and most of them have been of the backpacker LP variety.
you learn more "jerga" (aka slang) hanging out with the guys, but I have been limited to hanging out with the girls.
I´ve noticed they incessantly use the word "marica" to refer to each other during conversations. It seems this is the Colombiana equivalent of the way black and or urban girls or homosexual men will use the word "girl" or "girlfriend" sprinkled in within a conversation.
not sure if this is limited to Cali, you may want to try it on the coast. (actually you can´t, it´s limited to girl on girl talk, but run it by your gf)
the male equivalent, though there are several (kind of like saying "dude") is parse (accent on the e) and especially among the military, exmilitary, it is lansa.
still feel weird being called mono, as monkey immediately comes to mind LOL
I also know about your swinger´s club. They advertise regularly in ElPais in the adults classified section. I also know about your "nightclubs" too. They are to be found on Carrera Quince.
If you think you have stumbled upon the concept of "getting away from the gringos", you are sadly mistaken, I would be Chairman of the Board or at least on the Board of Directors of any such organization, especially when it comes to sex tourist related activities (as a rule of thumb you won`t find me within 300 yards of a place like Medellin Mansion or any such facsimile)
Catire,
Oh boy, this is really getting old so this will be my last post in response "Mr. Chairman". Really now what is it that is pissing off here that you think you have to prove you have the pulse of the city of Cali? Wait, don't answer cause don't care.
BTW- The one adverised in th El Pais is the one I was refering to in my last post but there is one swingers club I found through a chica that does not advertise anywhere, good luck finding that one since it is only by word of mouth.
Also, the night clubs I spoke of are not the ones on Carrera Quince (like Las Profesionales). No my friend but funny thing is that I found this particular nightclub through the street vender outside of Las Profesionales. You see my friend I ask and ask and ask everyone I meet at such places "where are the hidden places" (in Spanish of course). In all fairness 80 percent of the places were not in fact unkowns and of the 20 percent that were unkown, were bland to awful but then you are left with th 10 percent that really makes it all worth while.
I should probably in fairness also point out I have a definite issue to fucking something that has already been fucked several times, or many more that very same day (even in a rio terma) which is an issue with casa and I don´t fuck during the day, so I won´t try stunts like being the first one there when they open, etc.
What you need to do my friend is to work on a non-pro girlfriend and leave the serious mongering to those with lesser hangups.
but please, don´t mind me, carry on with your "research", I am sure many here appreciate it and I´d hate to deflate your raison d' etre.
Why that is actually the nicest thing you could have said. Yes, it is true that finding beautiful pussy to fuck is my raison d' etre (reason to exist). I'm sorry for you that it is not yours.
"Maintenant soyez un bon petit garçon et sortez pour jouer"
Cheers,
Cubanut
yes, I will leave you to DOO your "serious mongering" in Spanish "any Colombian would recognize as fluent". (hint, Profesionales as a plural would have to be Las Profesionales, which it indeed is)
this should keep me chuckling all night long.
It should keep you busy for a very long time because I should have said that P4P is the most developed industry in this city, not just casas de cita. We haven´t even touched on all the spas that include full service and I have seen SW´s in the south as well.
but you don´t even need to search side streets and seek special swinger clubs, you can DOO what one guy did in this thread some time back, which was walk up to some women in a market and bluntly (though I actually do not know how blunt or circumspect he was) offer them say 50K for a new "beautiful pussy" (which will tend to be more new and "beautiful" than one getting fucked tens of times daily in your normal P4P places that you constantly seek).
In a city where most people make the minimum wage of 400K (200 US) a month, your batting average should be better than Barry Bonds´.
we´ll stay abreast of how you are dooing.
and really, don´t feel sorry for me. LOL.
... on the point of "gringos fucking things up", etc, as much as I basically agree with the concept, I still don´t see a single shred of evidence that this has changed the Cali P4P scene in any way shape or form. Even in the most popular gringo visited establishments, the overwhelming majority of the clientele is and remains Colombian. Ergo, no shred of evidence to support this hypothesis, as much as I´d like to support it. What´s interesting is that during my stay here thus far I have bumped into very few gringos/extranjeros period, and most of them have been of the backpacker LP variety ...
Si senor ... the gringo city of choice these days is not Cali, it's Medellin by far.
... still feel weird being called mono, as monkey immediately comes to mind LOL...
I get called mono too ... still cracks me up.
I like the word for popcorn n Venezuela ... what is it again ... Katufa, as opposed to crespetos in Colombia.
Si senor ... the gringo city of choice these days is not Cali, it's Medellin by far.
this is good, let´s keep it that way. Word has it Poblado has already become like Laguito (in CTG)
any way to build a big fence around Poblado? One has to quarantine the disease before it spreads, no?
(unfortunately I have forgotten the word for popcorn)
I´m going to check out the most "bacano" (means "cool" in colombiano) electronica/house/club club in the city (well it´s actually outside the city)
should be interesting.
this is good, let´s keep it that way. Word has it Poblado has already become like Laguito (in CTG)
any way to build a big fence around Poblado? One has to quarantine the disease before it spreads, no?
(unfortunately I have forgotten the word for popcorn)
I´m going to check out the most "bacano" (means "cool" in colombiano) electronica/house/club club in the city (well it´s actually outside the city)
should be interesting.
Actually el Poblado is not that much like Laguito in CTG, except for there's a lot of gringos running around.
El Poblado does not have hardly any PFP scene, except of course the Mansion and Loutron massage place.
El Poblado is where los ricos (the rich people) live. Lots of eye-candy, but too stuck-up for my taste, I like the more humble chicas :)
Have fun en el club que es lo mas bacano de Cali !!
MiamiHeatLuver
04-15-07, 03:45
Actually el Poblado is not that much like Laguito in CTG, except for there's a lot of gringos running around.
El Poblado does not have hardly any PFP scene, except of course the Mansion and Loutron massage place.
El Poblado is where los ricos (the rich people) live. Lots of eye-candy, but too stuck-up for my taste, I like the more humble chicas :)
Have fun en el club que es lo mas bacano de Cali !!
Poblado: Tons of Gringos running around,, and the nicest eye-candy to be found in MDE, but in places where I usually get a second look from the chicas,, I was receiving the COLD shoulder, these people in POBLADO could care less if your gringo or how much money you "think" you have, these people all dress nice and have money and have nice cars. I felt like i was in BAL HARBOUR, or OCEAN DRIVE, these are two luxe places here in MIAMI. TOO TOO stuck up for my taste as well and that being said its almost a turn-off which you almost dont want to even bother with the hassle. It was kinda like here in South Beach where the girls charge you to look at them, lol Thank-god my boy took me to the "pobre areas" were you can STILL find a humilde chica there if you look hard enough. phew! p.s. come to think of it, I dont see it as a far stretch for POBLADO or MDE becoming another CTG or CR in the next 3 to 5 years, Heck even the metro is addressing the stops in ENGLISH now.
Actually el Poblado is not that much like Laguito in CTG, except for there's a lot of gringos running around.
El Poblado does not have hardly any PFP scene, except of course the Mansion and Loutron massage place.
El Poblado is where los ricos (the rich people) live. Lots of eye-candy, but too stuck-up for my taste, I like the more humble chicas.
I agree that Poblado is completely different from Laguito.
I too like Poblado because of all the nice eye-candy but would also agree that cities like Cali have friendlier chicas. Medellin as a whole is not really my favorite city in Colombia either. Truth be told, as far as city living goes I much rather prefer Bucaramanga or Armenia. Much more calmer in theses cities.
I do like the Mansion/Castillo setup and will always suggest staying there for newbies and veterans alike. Unlike Loutron's, for example, one can chill out by the pool at the Mansion while feeling out (or up) a Paisa or two or three...
Cheers,
Cubanut
Miami- I deleted it.
Cuba- I'm not the man upstairs nor an angel, but why call someone "sorry" and refer to his posts as garbage? One man's garbage is another man's treasure. JMO. I also don't agree that a monger has to find a gal that's been fucked 5 times a day or even once that day to be considered as one doing some serious mongering. Heck, I'd applaud a monger more for finding the 10 that HASN'T already had her daily quota or even first fuck of the day.
Master- Yep, the kid issue.. I've kind of noticed that about Cali as well, but I probably don't talk to a large enough sample of Calenas to really throw it out as such.... but I have met many Calenas online and in fact most of my fav's do have a bambino o 2. Just wierd as I have exponentially more Barranquillera contacts in my book and few have kids.
Catire- throw me in the category of not real interested in fucking someone that's already been a few rounds that day. I know what you mean... I don't care if she's a 10... just the thought of it makes me sick. I rarely partake at a casa and while I have waited around to see what comes out next, it's mainly just to assure myself that geez what a waste of time. I'd much prefer a non-pro or even that idea of just offering out cash to hotties anywhere I can find them just to not have the thought in my head how many other dicks have been in her today... but I probably would never do that either, as part of the fun is creating the rapport and relationship and see what comes of it... sex is usually much much better.
Re words... Mono- get called it all the time. Marica- on the coast(Barranquilla) I see it used 2 ways... 1) homosexual as you mentioned and 2) I actually hear it used quite often among close-knit groups of friends(guys) in the middle of a conversation.. I.e. Marica, yada yada yada..Actually one friend always says... "Marica para la voz" when there are a lot of people speaking and he is trying to get everyone's attention.
Parse... Never ever heard that one on the coast. Never. Heard it in Medellin and I had to ask my costena gf (who was with me) what the hell that person said. Didn't understand a word of it out of the paisas mouth that said it and "parse" was one of the words.
Popcorn... crispetas.
I think we all on this Cali forum pretty much agree that Cali, Barranquilla, Bucaramanga, and even the Pereira/Armenia/Manizales triangle(though they too are considered Paisas) are more inviting for our tastes than a Paisa. Fortunately most Colombianos and most gringos going to Colombia looking for a wife or to get laid would disagree. To each his own. If you like Calenas you probably like Barranquilleras and vice versa. Many say Paisas are hot. I just don't see my willie standing up very much for them. Every other chica I pass in the street in Cali or Barranquilla gets my blood flowing. But Medellin... well even in Poblado, it just doesn't do it for me. But like Ricker... it's something about the ass and triguena skin color... and I like petite gals as well. I can't stand big tits and I really prefer jetblack hair so these blonds and or white gals which most gringos drool over just don't do it for me. In fact I've rarely even seen a girl in Parque Lleras that I would even consider banging. I have seen some hotties at some discos in other areas though. There typically are a few 32a o 32b chicas, 95-105lb, jet black hair, triguenas that know how to wear the shit out of a pair of jeans in Medellin but it is just not nearly the numbers that you see in Barranquilla or Cali. And me personally, I'd much prefer fuck a younger gal and less experienced gal any day of the week over some sort of experienced hor in a casa. I dont care how good she fucks... she can be butt naked and be known as the best fuck in Colombia but if she's not petite, small tits, a tight pussy, black hair, and under 25 yrs old my willie won't even wake up for her with a blue pill. Ok maybe I can could go without the black hair... and the age thing, well I used to always think she'd need to be below 21. However my gf is 25 so I guess that sort of changes things... though she looks like she's barely 18. That's probably why I like her. She has all the qualities I like and if everyone thinks she's 16 -18 when she's 25 well... I'm guessing I'm still in luck when she's 30.
I guess it's good that everyone likes the gals of Medellin and thinks the world of the eye-candy there. I don't call them eye-candy... I turn my head at very few of them. To each his own. Like I said, one man's garbage is another's treasure and vice versa. Though I'd never call any of these gals garbage... as regardless of looks you have to admit, attitude and loving-wise
there's nothing like a Colombiana. They are all treasures in my book. It's just there are some that I would bang and others I wouldn't.
I saw it there, read it, now its gone!
Parse... Never ever heard that one on the coast. Never. Heard it in Medellin and I had to ask my costena gf (who was with me) what the hell that person said. Didn't understand a word of it out of the paisas mouth that said it and "parse" was one of the words.
Popcorn... crispetas.
"Parse" is used in Medellin, like the word "Pana" in Venezuela, hear it a lot in Maracaibo. Used to mean good friend.
Popcorn ... yes, crispetas in Colombia ... Kotufa in Venezuela ... popo ropo in Guatemala ... who cares :)
Buen dia amigos!
Popcorn ... yes, crispetas in Colombia ... Kotufa in Venezuela ... popo ropo in Guatemala ... who cares :)
Buen dia amigos!
Ricker,
In Cuba it's "rositas de maiz".
But then again, like you said, who cares.
Cheers
Cubanut
Master Yoda
04-15-07, 18:05
Master- Yep, the kid issue.. I've kind of noticed that about Cali as well, but I probably don't talk to a large enough sample of Calenas to really throw it out as such.... but I have met many Calenas online and in fact most of my fav's do have a bambino o 2. Just wierd as I have exponentially more Barranquillera contacts in my book and few have kids.I hate that kid thing. I mean these ladies need to learn to close their legs. Not open them to every guy.
Catire- throw me in the category of not real interested in fucking someone that's already been a few rounds that day. I know what you mean... I don't care if she's a 10... just the thought of it makes me sick. Same here. I hate to feel like the next guy on the production line.
I'd much prefer a non-pro or even that idea of just offering out cash to hotties anywhere I can find them just to not have the thought in my head how many other dicks have been in her today... but I probably would never do that either, as part of the fun is creating the rapport and relationship and see what comes of it... sex is usually much much better. I too am into the non-pro scene. It feels alittle better. I would only use pros action as a last resort if I have absolutely no success [possible]. Then I will just go to a pro and fuck her till I pass out.
I think we all on this Cali forum pretty much agree that Cali, Barranquilla, Bucaramanga, and even the Pereira/Armenia/Manizales triangle(though they too are considered Paisas) are more inviting for our tastes than a Paisa. Fortunately most Colombianos and most gringos going to Colombia looking for a wife or to get laid would disagree. To each his own. quote]If you like Calenas you probably like Barranquilleras and vice versa. Many say Paisas are hot. I just don't see my willie standing up very much for them. Every other chica I pass in the street in Cali or Barranquilla gets my blood flowing. But Medellin... well even in Poblado, it just doesn't do it for me. But like Ricker... it's something about the ass and triguena skin color... and I like petite gals as well. I can't stand big tits and I really prefer jetblack hairExactemente. I really like that look too. I really can't describe the look. It's like a tanned look abit like salma hayek in desperado movie. I guess she would be a triguena or Canela. I also like darker tans like morena which would be brown skinned or black women. I also like that long hair up to her ass. The kind you want to pull where she is in the doggy position. I was speaking to one girl that claimed to be partially spanish decent, indian decent and black. A mix of all three. And if I ever meet her I will just knock the chick up. Seriously, i want her to have my babies. She is that HOT. She is from Barranquilla.
so these blonds and or white gals which most gringos drool over just don't do it for me. In fact I've rarely even seen a girl in Parque Lleras that I would even consider banging. I have seen some hotties at some discos in other areas though. There typically are a few 32a o 32b chicas, 95-105lb, jet black hair, triguenas that know how to wear the shit out of a pair of jeans in Medellin but it is just not nearly the numbers that you see in Barranquilla or Cali.Me too. If I wanted pale white, with blond hair I would just stay here in Sex prison.
Its the exotic looks that make me wanna bust nuts in every chica I lay eyes on. I actually want to taste those chicks.
But hey every man has different tastes.
And me personally, I'd much prefer fuck a younger gal and less experienced gal any day of the week over some sort of experienced hor in a casa. I dont care how good she fucks... she can be butt naked and be known as the best fuck in Colombia but if she's not petite, small tits, a tight pussy, black hair, and under 25 yrs old my willie won't even wake up for her with a blue pill. Ok maybe I can could go without the black hair... and the age thing, well I used to always think she'd need to be below 21. However my gf is 25 so I guess that sort of changes things... though she looks like she's barely 18. That's probably why I like her. She has all the qualities I like and if everyone thinks she's 16 -18 when she's 25 well... I'm guessing I'm still in luck when she's 30. I also prefer the same things. And the way I see it if I can get them at 18, I will take her. The younger the better. I am 50+ and a complete gentleman that treats women like queens. They just dont appreciate it in this country. But hopefully in Colombia its different.
I guess it's good that everyone likes the gals of Medellin and thinks the world of the eye-candy there. I don't call them eye-candy... I turn my head at very few of them. To each his own. Like I said, one man's garbage is another's treasure and vice versa. Though I'd never call any of these gals garbage... as regardless of looks you have to admit, attitude and loving-wise
there's nothing like a Colombiana. They are all treasures in my book. It's just there are some that I would bang and others I wouldn't.Very true.
Gents,
Actually I'm back from Cali again but the routine I like doing while in Cali on Sundays is pretty much the same.
I like taking a gal (either pre-arranged or the one that stayed over from Saturday night) out for Sancocho up the moutain the locals call Kilometer 18. There are many restaurants to eat at and I've been to 4 of them now. I like the drive up the mountain for the fresh cool air and the views. It gets a little cool up there so it's always good to bring a jacket or sweat shirt for the girl(s).
One of my favorite restaurants is Las Neblinas. They have a good menu besides the Sancocho de Pollo but it is not that they have great Sancocho that I like them because they don't. Personally so far I much prefer the Sanchoco I've had at Simon Parrillada back in the city over any of the mountain places. However, I come back to Las Neblinas or stop there even when I go to another spot for one thing, their fantastic Arepa de Choclo. To be more pricise, theis is actually an arepa rellena con queso y mantequilla (arepa filled with cheese and butter).
The arepa is made from ground corn meal and water made into a batter which they spoon into little griddles. The griddles are then covered and put on a stove where they actually bake rather than cook.
The baked arepa is the cut in half and filled with fresh queso de vaca (cow milk cheese) and butter. The result is a flavor festival in your mouth unlike any other.
Like I said I sometimes stop there just for the arepas de choclo even when I don't go to eat. I guess the women know me pretty good by now because as soon as the ladies see me they start making me fresh arepas either to eat there or "para llevar" (to go).
Cheers,
Cubanut
Cubanut, Thanks for all your information, I see the restaurant menu in your pics have mondongo. I'd could use bowl right now !
Gents,
Actually I'm back from Cali again but the routine I like doing while in Cali on Sundays is pretty much the same.
Hey amigo ... you just made me hungry :)
Hope to see you in Cali soon. I'm back finally this Thursday!!!
Did I miss it??
Claro que si!
Take care! Thanks for the fotos, made me home sick :)
Re words... Mono- get called it all the time. Marica- on the coast(Barranquilla) I see it used 2 ways... 1) homosexual as you mentioned and 2) I actually hear it used quite often among close-knit groups of friends(guys) in the middle of a conversation.. I.e. Marica, yada yada yada..Actually one friend always says... "Marica para la voz" when there are a lot of people speaking and he is trying to get everyone's attention.
Parse... Never ever heard that one on the coast. Never. Heard it in Medellin and I had to ask my costena gf (who was with me) what the hell that person said. Didn't understand a word of it out of the paisas mouth that said it and "parse" was one of the words.
Popcorn... crispetas.Hey guys,
I'm new here and new to Colombia although I've been checking out another board for some time. Cubanut, who posts occasionally at the other board, emailed me some useful tips for my first Cali trip last November. Thanks again CN! Will actually be in Medellin for the 1st time (and maybe a few days in Bogotá) the week of Memorial Day. Maybe I'll run into some of you there. I'm considering staying at the Castillo but if someone can vouch for an apartment, then I might go that route.
As for the language thing, yeah I noticed both in the DVDs I have of Colombian movies and the paisas I met in Cali. . . that these folks have their own peculiar "dialect" with a lot of unique jargon. I speak semi-fluent Spanish but I have to admit, I had to go over some of those DVDs like "Rosario Tijeras" several times before I could really pick up what the characters were saying. I'm from New York, but I don't hang out or live anywhere near the neighborhoods in Queens or New Jersey where Colombians have gathered, so most of this jargon was completely new to my ears.
"Marica" is the Colombian way of saying "maricón" (faggot), but it's amusing how certain insult words can be used amongst Colombian friends when addressing or talking to each other. "Huevón" seems to be another popular one. Literally, that means big egg, but basically you're being called a dummy. :-)
"Parse" and "parsero" seem to be slang for friend but I suspect Winner71 is right in that it's not used as much outside the paisa region (Antioquia); didn't hear it in Cali, at least not from the paisa chicks I spoke with.
"Parse" reminds me of "asere" which is friend in Cuba, but you'll almost never hear that outside Cuba, (very rare at least in New York, maybe Miami's different). In NYC, I'm much more likely to hear "socio" or "compay" or maybe even the Spanglish "broder"
As for "bacano" that's the Colombian way of saying cool. In the Spanish Caribbean, New York, and Miami, you're much more likely to hear "chévere" which actually comes from Cuba. For money, "plata" seems to be just as common, if not more often used than "dinero." Also, "que más" or "que hubo" seem to be much more common greetings than "como estás" or "que tal"
My personal favorite has to be "culicagao" which means an unclean ass. It usually refers to little kids who run around with their butts dirty, but it can be used in other situations as well. If your chica calls you this, you've screwed up somewhere! :-)
I personally don't like to use too much slang because I probably would sound ridiculous, like I'm trying too hard to fit in or sound like one of the locals. I'm sure they can tell right away that my Spanish is from somewhere else. Still, it's handy to know some of the jargon.
Hope these comparisons were helpful to some of you. I'll be posting a couple of pics from my Cali trip shortly.
MiamiHeatLuver
04-16-07, 19:14
But a client of mine paid me in EUROS and im gonna bring some with me to exchange. I usually just go the the ATM. The EURO on XE.com is almost 2900, im wondering if anybody knows who gives the best exchange rates, Im sure the exchange rates at tourist places EA, Chipe Chape or Palmeto are shitty because they are tourist areas. Thanx in advance.
Gents,
Actually I'm back from Cali again but the routine I like doing while in Cali on Sundays is pretty much the same.
I like taking a gal (either pre-arranged or the one that stayed over from Saturday night) out for Sancocho up the moutain the locals call Kilometer 18. There are many restaurants to eat at and I've been to 4 of them now. I like the drive up the mountain for the fresh cool air and the views. It gets a little cool up there so it's always good to bring a jacket or sweat shirt for the girl(s).Great advice. One of the great things about Cali is that even though it is hot and if you don't want to wait around for the evening breeze you can escape the heat in ~15 minutes with a quick drive up into the hills. Very relaxing.
I miss the arepas de choclo right now. And champus, cholados. Unfortunately I'm stuck on the road for a month and won't make it back to Cali for another month. Thanks for the memories.
Also I'll probably be in Cali for the next puente which is May 21.
Cheers,
Dwayne
marico is heavily used in Venezuela, and it does mean maricon, but its used among friends to fuck with each other. (though tone of voice also comes into play)
they also call each other guebon constantly (meaning idiot/dumbass)
guebon is used in Cali often, but marico is not among guys and I specifically inquired about marica among girls and was told it does NOT have any homosexual tie ins at all. Why they chose that word, I have not asked and Im not sure who would know but it means girl/girlfriend the way African American women use it among themselves in the US.
asere is uniquely Cuban, most of these words are, like pana unique to Venezuela (though theyd understand it here in Cali). Parse is used in Cali heavily so it cant be specific to MDE region.
anyways, this is all street slang, which will almost never be used in polite company anyways.
I get a kick out of girls jokingly calling me guache, or patan.
plata is actually heavily used in many Caribbean Latin countries, including Cuba, DR, Ven and Colombia for starters. I suspect itd be understood anywhere.
yeah, the que mas greeting has thrown me off here in Cali, I have never heard it used this way before.
but these are minor annoyances generally speaking.
speaking of arepas, I find them INFERIOR to what I would buy in Venezuelan areperias. I prefer the arepa being cut and stuffed, which you can get here, but still doesnt seem to taste the same. Often they will put stuff on top of the arepa, which I dont care for at all. Ill cast my vote for the Venezuelan version.
re the club I went to the other night, it actually WAS cool, though I was slightly disappointed. The guest DJ was supposedly one of the biggest names on the continent (from Uruguay) and the entrada was steep at 30K.
It didnt really get going crowdwise (and it never got really crowded) until around 3:30 am (thats not surprising for clubs outside the city limits, they get going after 3 am). The crowd seemed a bit clickquey and of course illicit substances were the order of the night. My shirt reeked of marijuana when I got back, and people were snorting stuff out of what looked like lighters/snorters all night. I would assume there was a fair amount of X floating around as well.
It was definitely an entirely new class level of youth, etc - you wont find these people at your typical Sexta joints and for the first time I saw YOUNG girls with often unnecessary tit jobs, perhaps something Daddy (or more likely their narcotrafficker bf) bought for them when they turned 18. Strangely enough I saw a girl from my gym there! (surprised because shes a little older and an engineer)
Dark sunglasses seemed to be a popular accessory :)
anyways - I am sure you can imagine the scene. If anyone wants the name, directions, you can PM me. The music certainly was top notch.
on the way back, the taxista of course tried to offer to take me to some 24 hour casas whereupon I asked him the question, how does one feel being the nth number to fuck her just that very same day (with n often exceeding 5?)
his answer was typical of Colombian males Ive posed this question to
"eso es el dilema" (Im sure this doesnt need any translation)
on Friday, when I was walking around looking for the famous club Kukaramakura (turns out its being remodeled) I stumbled into 3 more casas LOL they are everywhere. I sometimes wonder what % of Cali women have worked in a casa or something similar by the time theyve turned 25.
on Sat night, before heading off to the electronica club, while sitting at one of my favorite Sexta bars, I got into a conversation with the bouncers, who proceeded to turn my attention to a dark shuttered window but with a tv easily visible thru the slits. Turns out they were entertaining themselves by watching people fucking backlit by that TV. At first I thought it was merely a private appt but was informed it was merely ANOTHER "reservado".
re money go to BancoColombia, but your best rate will always come via ATM (even with the extra fees most banks now force you to pay)
... yeah, the que mas greeting has thrown me off here in Cali, I have never heard it used this way before ...
The "que mas" greeting is used all over Colombia.
... speaking of arepas, I find them INFERIOR to what I would buy in Venezuelan areperias. I prefer the arepa being cut and stuffed, which you can get here, but still doesnt seem to taste the same. Often they will put stuff on top of the arepa, which I dont care for at all. Ill cast my vote for the Venezuelan version ...
I totally agree, I love the areparias in Venezuela!
I totally agree, I love the areparias in Venezuela!
I wish there were a Ven areperia somewhere so I could get what I like coming back from being out after having a couple of drinks. in CCS, I knew of several that were open 24 hours (god bless them)
hey if you are coming into town on Thu or this weekend, let´s hook up. PM or e'mail me with time and place (Escoces?). This will be last chance as I leave shortly.
Bedroom Bully
04-17-07, 23:37
Where can I find the girls with the Cinnamon or dark skin. My travel bud loves the white looking girls so it looks like Med is for him. But where should I go to get those brown skinned girls?
Greetings from the other side of the world... For the last 7 months I have been relocated by my company to China. I've always disliked Asian girls but I've come to realize the Asian girls in Asia are far more attractive than the ones in the states so they are growing on me and being fluent in Chinese its damn easy out here for me. But with all my calenas emailing me i cant help to remember that great month of August I spent in Cali!!!
I've obviously have had nothing to post for the last 7 months on the Cali forum but have checked in every now and then just to stir up the old memories and ran across a familiar face....or should I say ass. One of you guys posted a picture of her in the Miss Cali Ass competition and I hear she won, so i can proudly say i have banged a Miss Cali Ass. Heres a picture of Vanessa when i first met her at the Black & White party at Lago Calima last August. I've reposted a picture one of you guys took at the ass competition, she is the yellow bikini. I havent been in touch with her but for anyone looking to meet her she is a regular at the Tienda Vieja bar in Cali where we are mutual friends with the owner Edgar. She half Colombian and half Fillipino, you wont miss her and her girlfriends are always hot. She was not a prepago back then but I'm certain shes feeling good about her newfound fame and looking to cash in on the high end. Talk to Edgar.
Cali is a small place...you'll know everyone within a month and keep running into the same people. Enjoy, I can say we do not have bodies like that on the other side of the world and as they say in Colombia "Sim Tetas No Hay Paraiso"
Vanessa is her real name and what she told me..........Joanna was the name that my friend/pimp/guide Oscar told me was her name at the time. But everyone at Tienda Vieja knows her as Vanessa and that will be the best way to find her.
I still recommend Oscar who will go get any girl you point at in Cali regardless of whether she is with someone or not. Hes not very smart but hes got balls.
... "Sim Tetas No Hay Paraiso" ...
SIN Tetas ...
Great fotos! Have fun in China :)
Been thinking about Colombia so much the last two day I'm thinking about going the week of memorial day....except maybe Medellin or Barranquilla instead.
Can anyone post pictures of Camila/Monica whos one of flower Mike's girls? She also works at Escoses and is in Dave Davis's marriage agency. Shes the only prepago I've been with in Cali but I was a repeat customer. The prepago scene is not as organized as in Medellin and is definately a "secret society thing" in Cali but she is the hottest known prepago in Cali. But i do have contacts in the prepago scene if you guys are interested.
I've ran into stranger in the airport who has known and raved about Camilia/Monica so I would expect someone here might have her picture. Anyone in Cali who wants to meet her I'll give you her number or Mike's if you cant locate her, but just take a photo for me. In fact I i would pay someone to fuck her and post her pic here.
before i forget..... http://www.lasprofesionales.com/
I've met someone of these girls at nightclubs like Ola Ola and Forum and only found out later they were prepaids. About as high end as you will find in Cali.
anyone i personally know here interested in Alexandra from my 8-25 report let me know.. Shes looking to get a nose job(and sponsor) to go with her perfect tits. Shes still the hottest girls I've ever been with....or at least one of. 20 year old college student/ trophy girlfriend
Master Yoda
04-19-07, 01:04
Where can I find the girls with the Cinnamon or dark skin. My travel bud loves the white looking girls so it looks like Med is for him. But where should I go to get those brown skinned girls?Cali or BAQ or even Cartagena if you want that look but it can be found all over the place really.
cheers
Master Yoda
04-19-07, 01:08
I totally agree, I love the areparias in Venezuela!WTF Ricker? So venezuela have the better looking women and the better areparias. I need to go there. Hopefully the women can match Cali like you keep saying. The only think I love about Cali is the women have light skin tan and long hair.
Yes there are more Super Estrellas in Caracas than in any other Latin America city I've been to but there are more cute non pros in Cali than anywhere in LA and most of them will give you an opportunity to get your 30 second pitch off. If your going to go hang out Loft or Vintage in San Ignacios mall you'd better be decent looking, have money to spend and have game or else this place may not be for you. Though if you are in Caracas do check out the Sunday brunch at the Tamanaco Intercontinental.
I've spent plenty of time in alot of Latin American cities and IMHO, Cali is the best place in the region for nonpros. The safety of the city, beauty and warmth of the girls,economic value, and the sheer overabundance of girls(10+ females: 1 male) makes Cali the greatest city in the world for a single man. And a divorce waiting to happen for a married man. I have fond memories of chicas of Caracas too but its not the same
Ricker your the man and all and your the one whos posts convinced me to go to both Cali and Caracas but I'd have to take Cali over just about any other city in latin america
Master Yoda
04-19-07, 04:19
how is the general look in Caracas compared to Cali i.e. darker/lighter, taller/shorter, more indian make up/more european?
If there are triguenas/canela there. I will pass by after I do BAQ and Cali. I love that tanned skin and long jet black hair look like in Cali.
Yes there are more Super Estrellas in Caracas than in any other Latin America city I've been to but there are more cute non pros in Cali than anywhere in LA and most of them will give you an opportunity to get your 30 second pitch off. If your going to go hang out Loft or Vintage in San Ignacios mall you'd better be decent looking, have money to spend and have game or else this place may not be for you. Though if you are in Caracas do check out the Sunday brunch at the Tamanaco Intercontinental.
I've spent plenty of time in alot of Latin American cities and IMHO, Cali is the best place in the region for nonpros. The safety of the city, beauty and warmth of the girls,economic value, and the sheer overabundance of girls(10+ females: 1 male) makes Cali the greatest city in the world for a single man. And a divorce waiting to happen for a married man. I have fond memories of chicas of Caracas too but its not the same
Ricker your the man and all and your the one whos posts convinced me to go to both Cali and Caracas but I'd have to take Cali over just about any other city in latin america
MiamiHeatLuver
04-19-07, 04:29
The safety of the city
Yea Right, lol You give a false sense of security, Obviously you are not up to par with the safety situation down there and its turn for the worse. Just beacuse you hang out at Tienda Vieja, or La sexta or Chipe Chape, these are all policed tourist areas.
The girls I was hooking up with in Caracas had a very Medellin type of look about them but there are all different types in Caracas and you can see the different types at the Sambil. But Caracas is a place you have to be young to be in the scene (20s). Theres no advantage in being a rich older guy there, maybe a disadvantage really. And those two places I mentioned are where the novella stars frequent and they usually wont let you in unless your with eye candy. I was frequentling Caracas a few years ago but now that I have hit the ripe age of 30 this scene may have passed me by. Cali is a place where you are ageless...
The nonpro scene in Caracas takes work and after doing the Cali thing I dont think your gonna want to work that hard again. That place is like South Beach, if your games takes you far there then you'll most likely be fine in Caracas but there very little advantage in being a gringo with money.
My opinion is spend your time in Cali...... you may not like what you find in Caracas.
... Ricker your the man and all and your the one whos posts convinced me to go to both Cali and Caracas but I'd have to take Cali over just about any other city in latin america ...
Well the only thing I'm sure about is the arepas. They are definitely better in Venezuela.
As far as chicas, IMHO, I've never seen so many hot hot chicas than in Caracas. From experience though, and like Rob Hay says, they are not as approachable as the Calena.
Colombianas in general are more down to earth than the Venezolana in my experience, and the PFP is cheaper in Colombia generally.
It's not a rule though, cause I've had some sweet sweet Venezuelan novias too, and have found some great PFP, especially in Maracaibo.
If I had to choose a visit, I'd pick Medellin or Cali over a visit to Caracas these days. The country (Colombia) and the cities are much more user friendly.
Fortunately, I have to visit both for work :)
But, I just met the prettiest chica from Barranquilla, her dad is from Bogota and her mom a costena from Barranquilla ... a great combo she is ... and a cool chica too.
I'm off to Barranquilla pronto!
Suerte amigos!
Well the only thing I'm sure about is the arepas. They are definitely better in Venezuela.
As far as chicas, IMHO, I've never seen so many hot hot chicas than in Caracas. From experience though, and like Rob Hay says, they are not as approachable as the Calena.
Colombianas in general are more down to earth than the Venezolana in my experience, and the PFP is cheaper in Colombia generally.
It's not a rule though, cause I've had some sweet sweet Venezuelan novias too, and have found some great PFP, especially in Maracaibo.
I would concur with Ricker and RHay, but it should be kept in in mind that caraqueńas (and os for that matter) tend to be more stuck up than girls from other cities in the country, especially from the higher end social strata that you will meet, especially the so called super high end types RHay likes)
Master Yoda
04-20-07, 02:24
I would concur with Ricker and RHay, but it should be kept in in mind that caraqueńas (and os for that matter) tend to be more stuck up than girls from other cities in the country, especially from the higher end social strata that you will meet, especially the so called super high end types RHay likes)I am guess that is where all the hot lighter skinned women are. They normally are high end in Latin America.
also who in their right mind chases higher end chicas? it just seems like a waste of time.
also who in their right mind chases higher end chicas? it just seems like a waste of time.
RHay is (in)famous for chasing specifically that kind. Different strokes for different folks. I would agree it´s a waste of time, given you have all these 7´s and 8´s around without the attitude, etc that the so called 9´s and 10´s bring. (but like I said different strokes etc).I would also say that many if not most of these so called 9´s and 10´s have already had various degrees of plastic surgery and I hate plastics.
in a place like Caracas, the so called 9´s 10´s are going to have Venezuelans with money after them (and there are plenty who have it). Those Venezuelans will be smoother and bring more to the table than the so called rich gringo, especially an old one, so a so called gringo cannot effectively compete.
but it´d be a mistake to say the CCS scene ends for someone at 30. Depends on you and how you look. The Venezuelan vanity culture extends to men a little more than in does in Colombia so the competition can be stiff.
The Venezuelan vanity culture extends to men a little more than in does in Colombia so the competition can be stiff.
If anyone wants to see this vanity in the flesh go work out at the Valle Ariba Athletic Club. This is where every novella star in Caracas works out, definately the most beautiful people under one roof you will ever see. Even the receptionists are hot.
Master Yoda,
I dont want to take too much space on Cali forum talking about Caracas but for me the chase is as much fun as the actual sexual act. The game and the wooing is more exciting sometimes than the act. If you are really interested in Caracas take a look at my postings from about 3, 4 years back on Caracas with some pics in TSM and WSA. They are quite extensive, not sure why i didnt post them here on ISG at the time, i think there was a problem with this database at the time??? Check out Rockman's report as well for reference. Before he married a former miss Colombia contestant, I convinced him to go to Caracas just to take a look/ bacholor party. Rockman is infamous for chasing only the highest class and he left satisfied and ready to get married.. You can use these references to decide if that place is for you.
But back to Cali....
Theres a wealth of experience on this board as far for Cali. And everyone seems to be saying Cali is the way to go, so would trust their judgement on this one. Alot of guys here have vast Caracas experience but yet Cali is on our mind so that should tell you something. Everyone here have a ton of contacts for whatever your looking for so I would use these resources to your advantage. I'm not aware but am sad to hear that safety has taken a turn for the worst in Cali. But i dont believe violence has struck anywhere near Granada where i stayed.
Master Yoda
04-20-07, 16:02
Thanks rob Hay. I agree its a cali board so lets stick to Cali or just latin women in general.
RHay is (in)famous for chasing specifically that kind. Different strokes for different folks. I would agree it´s a waste of time, given you have all these 7´s and 8´s around without the attitude, etc that the so called 9´s and 10´s bring.
I just don't see why so many gringos think all the hottest of women are in the upper class. Rob Hay is different becuase he enjoys the cat and mouse chase but most gringos wouldn't even spit at a girl unless she was upper society. Surely one can find a knock out 9' or 10 in lower to middle classes too. There just may not be as many in those classes.
One thing I hate is when I about upper class women is their ability to do nothing. I mean when I was in DR I was dating this woman from a humble backround and every night she cooked dinner for me. Never got this from snobby girls.
in a place like Caracas, the so called 9´s 10´s are going to have Venezuelans with money after them (and there are plenty who have it). Those Venezuelans will be smoother and bring more to the table than the so called rich gringo, especially an old one, so a so called gringo cannot effectively compete.
but it´d be a mistake to say the CCS scene ends for someone at 30. Depends on you and how you look. The Venezuelan vanity culture extends to men a little more than in does in Colombia so the competition can be stiff.Well I can only compare this to my experience in Santiago, dominican republic and this is fairly upper class place. Its more about time and money. If you go expat and you have money you will have more opportunities to meet them.
If your a weekend tourist in Santiago, well you can forget it.
Luis The Great
04-21-07, 01:09
Just came back from my Cali/ San andres trip 16 days of paradise. One thing I noticed that has changed since I was there earlier this year for the Feria. The Taxis you board from the Airport go to the guard tower and get a standard tariff issued. They ask where you are going and issue a reciept stating how much you should be charged. This will guarenty you will not get ripped of. I have experienced first hand taxi drivers know you are not from Colombia and try to charge you extra. Once I took a cab from the airport to my girlfriends house they tried charging me 50,000 Col. My girlfriend apporached the taxi driver and asked what he was trying to pull. The taxi driver agreed on 35,000.
This trip to my girls house because of the mandated charge this time came to 31,500. This is great for us tourists. Also its safer since if something happens the gate before exiting the airport takes the license plate number of the taxi.
I think this is a good system the city Palmira came up with.
For those of you that dont know the Airport by Cali is not in the city of Cali the airport is in the city of Palmira.
airport taxis are almost always a scam, it´s good to see an upfront system. thanks.
as to CCS upper end gyms, I went to a few and quickly ran like hell because the pricing was outrageous, and the equipment sucked for what I wanted and needed it for. Lots of posers.
that´s why I joined a hard core gym at a student price LOL.
the true places where the real real upper classes hang out in Caracas bring new meaning to the idea of stuck up. The only interesting thing is that in Venezuela, unlike almost everywhere else in Latin America, being a gringo among intellectuals and upper classes and old money does NOT work against you.
If you've been to Cali more than once I would recommend to not take the taxis but rather a collectivo. Taxis from the airport are very expensive. Basically they have a fixed rate from the airport to the bridge into Cali and then turn on the meter once they pass over the bridge. I think the rate to the bridge is $32,000 COP so you really can't get anywhere for less than $35,000.
In contrast you can take a collectivo from the airport, which are always available, and it is less than $4,000 (don't recall if it is 3200 or 3400). If you know where you are going along the route then they will drop you off, get dropped off and take a taxi, or you could wait un hit the terminal and then take a taxi from there. Typically you'll save yourself about $30,000.
For me it's less about the actual $$ and more about traveling like a local and not feeling like I'm getting ripped off because at $30k plus for a relatively short taxi ride it is way too expensive.
Cheers,
Dwayne
Dwayne, I of course completely agree with but there is one potential problem and it basically depends on how much luggage you are carrying and how expensive something inside that luggage might be.
if you have some big suitcases and are carrying valuables, then in the larger scheme of things, one can bite the bullet and get fucked in the usual airport taxi scam.
but speaking of taxis, one of the most commonly used phrases here is about "...Clinica de Amor (every taxi will know where it is)..."
since many of the sex tourists, aka "serious mongers" stay at the Apthotel Rio, I think it would truly be amusing, (and even more so for the Colombian taxista) to take a taxi from there to one of the casas, including that one, when a person with a good arm can probably hit the place with a rock.
Most of them should walk the block or two to that place and many others. I suspect they need the exercise.
Mr Enternational
04-23-07, 02:23
If you've been to Cali more than once I would recommend to not take the taxis but rather a collectivo. Taxis from the airport are very expensive. Yeah those bastards charged us I think 40 or 40k last time from the airport to the hotel. I thought it was cool though because from the hotel to the airport the other guy charged the same thing. And believe me, I do haggle. But Dwayne, what is the latest hour for the collectivo? Would you still recommend taking it past a certain time? For instance if I were to arrive in Cali at 10pm? I usually stay in Bogota for the night then if I am going to a different city I make the trek the next morning.
Luis The Great
04-23-07, 03:03
Ya, Collectivo is an option however my plane ride from the states is about 7 hours. Therfore I want to get where im going to quickly as convienent as possible. I usually have a carry on and 2 checked in lugaages with all my valuables therfore taking a collectivo and transfering to a taxi is not an option.
Dont get me wrong I take collectivos all the time once I have settled in. On numerous ocassions and are pretty safe.I have taken collectivos to fincas outside Cali. I went to San Siprano and Calima on collectivos. They are the way to go, safe money and it add to the trip.
My girl lives in Palmira and we always take the collectivo Palmira Express to the Cali terminal for 2900 Col. Then hop on a taxi to where we want to go if the destination is in Cali. A Taki ride from palmira to cali is 52,000 Col. Collectivo under 6000 for me and my honey. You do the math......
Aparthotel.. is a great location to stay at while in Cali I recommended it to a couple of people I stayed there twice on my mongering expeditions. Walk to Dr. Amor, and Pharos. There is two other spots near also I forgot the names I think they can be found on the lists. Also there is a great litle disco you can pic up non pros at the disco in las torres de cali which is also 2 blocks from Aparthotel del Rio.
Whatever you do Be Safe........
Peter Solano
05-11-07, 08:41
I was in Cali one year ago. Didn't care too much for the town and had a very bad experience:
There was a big salsa gig at Rumbodromo. Loads of famous Salsa acts (that I'd never heard of) and it went on for hours. I was with my amiga y su hermana, but after several (let's say 7) hours of salsa I'd had enough and decided to leave solo. It was around 2am by this time so, although not wasted, I was pretty drunk. I left the club and took the first taxi outside. Big mistake.
I told him my hotel, Tore de Cali, and he sped off. After a minute or so he began to ask me questions, which I mostly ignored. After a few more minutes we suddenly stopped. In jumps 3 guys, one at each side of me and one in the front. As if I wasn't frightened enough, the guy to my right had a gun pointed at my neck to kindly remind me of the severity of the situation.
They took everything off me. I had my wallet with me so they politely asked me for my PIN numbers which, considering the gun pointed at my neck, I gave them. So we spent the next couple of hours driving from ATM to ATM, withdrawing as much money as they could. Finally they reached my card limits and, miracle of miracles, they drove to some abandonded area of Cali and let me go.
A pretty unpleasant experience, but let's be clear about one thing: I was a complete fool. I left a club at 2am alone and I stumbled into a taxi without checking its credentials. So, two big mistakes and I paid the price. The point is though, that Cali, in fact Colombia as a whole, as much as love the place, is a place where you can't afford to let your guard slip. It's not ready for mainstream tourism.
My general advice: don't go there if you can't speak Spanish, and if you can ALWAYS ALWAYS keep your guard up.
A third mistake was having your wallet with you with cards! Whenever I travel I leave everything (passport wallet and contents) in the safe (if there is one; if not I find a hiding place) where I am staying. I only venture around with a laminated copy of my passport reduced to ID card size, and the money that I plan on spending at that particular moment that I am away from the "home base", both held together with a rubber band.
That is 100% correct, or better yet a second "dummy wallet" with what Mr. enternational says. Hey if you get robbed you only loses a few pesos. Also leave the god damm Rolex back in the states also......
Guys, after giving it much thought I think I have come up with the solution.
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This is a wake up call to all mongers,
1. Carry only local currence enough to cover your expenses for the day.
2. Never get drunk if you are alone.
3. Never trust the girl to watch out for you unless it is your GF for a long time.
4. I still do not understand why people carry their wallets in a foreign country.
5. Being tough looking is no excuse.
6. Always lock up your valuables and if there are no safes hide somewhere.
7. People learn from mistakes. I also had the misfortune to leave my cell phone on the desk and the girl stole it. She made some overseas calls which cost me more than four pussies even though I cancelled it next day. This happened in DR. Make sure you have a loading phone so all you can loose is the phone and the load money. As for me I had to make many overseas calls for business , so I kept the same phone service. After that I always lock up phone and use a cheap phone.
8. Even the money you carry, do not keep all in your one pocket. Because there are many pick pockets including girls.
Jelly Donut
05-11-07, 15:31
This is a wake up call to all mongers,
1. Carry only local currence enough to cover your expenses for the day.
2. Never get drunk if you are alone.
3. Never trust the girl to watch out for you unless it is your GF for a long time.
4. I still do not understand why people carry their wallets in a foreign country.
5. Being tough looking is no excuse.
6. Always lock up your valuables and if there are no safes hide somewhere.
7. People learn from mistakes. I also had the misfortune to leave my cell phone on the desk and the girl stole it. She made some overseas calls which cost me more than four pussies even though I cancelled it next day. This happened in DR. Make sure you have a loading phone so all you can loose is the phone and the load money. As for me I had to make many overseas calls for business , so I kept the same phone service. After that I always lock up phone and use a cheap phone.
8. Even the money you carry, do not keep all in your one pocket. Because there are many pick pockets including girls.
See also :
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=504249&postcount=848
Last Monday I was in Cali and just felt like ditching the novia for some chica hunting :)
My favorite days for chica hunting are actually on Monday or Tuesday nights. Towards and on the weekends there are so many Colombianios running around, they get in my way ... :)
Anyway, I went to la Piscina and lets see if i can remeber ... there was me and how many other guys ... ZERO.
Some of the chicas there can be of the armargada type ... bitter hooker.
I just avoid them ... no big deal ... easy to spot.
Met some cool chicas, especially a cute little morenita, we talked a bit, had a cerveza and went up or fun.
The cost was, one hour for 50,000 pesitos and the cervezas were I believe 3000 each.
Regressing, I should say that I sat with the morenita down by the pool for about 30-45 minutes before going up for service, to bond with her and get a low down on her attitude. Good thing to do before going for service ... don't want no amargadas.
When I told her I needed a besito (kiss) to see if her lips were soft, she gave me a nice soft, full kiss ... and I knew she would be a winner.
Anyway, service was FANTASTICO !! Actually on the way to the room, I talked with the room-keeper chica, the one that cleans and keeps time, bonded with her too, promised her a propina (tip).
She never banged on the door .. and the morenita and I were in there for about 2 hours. Ricker TIP number 355 ... be nice to the time-keeper :) hahaha.
After we finished up, went back by the pool for another cerveza, when the morenita went to the bathroom, other chicas started moving in, and the morenita, coming back, saw one chica putting her cel number in mine.
She got jealous and came over a sat on my lap and basically begged me only to call her ... told me I was now her novio and a gringo muy chevere y buen amante (good lover) ... but I already knew that :) hahaha.
Lots of these chicas tell me that a lot of gringos are also muy armargado ... bitter in their attitude ... and that it's nice to see a happy one.
For the grumpy guys ... cheer up! Not too sure why a guy would be grumpy with 18 year old chicas oooogling on ya, but they say there are guys asi (like this).
All in all a great night! Love the bars when they're empty of guys, except for me. For once, I get to be Mr. Popular :)
I'll be meeting up with mi nueva amiguita, la morenita this coming week when I'm back in Cali ... this time she's coming to my hotel for some sweet all night loving ... no-price discussed. Ricker TIP number 356 ... discussing price ruins things ... pay her what you thnk she deserves (ps ... not everyone can do this ... advanced mongering stuff .. hahaha).
This applies only to free-lancing chicas, obviously prices are set in the casas.
Take care amigos y claro que si .... Suerte a todos !!
MiamiHeatLuver
05-12-07, 23:04
Just got back from CLO on the 921 last sunday. Ricker did you happen to see the police station bombing by any chance? I dont know how the struture held-up and the only person who died was one unfortunate cab driver who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.. The surrounding shops for about one good block are destroyed, looked like pics of IRAQ ive seen, I heard the FARC used 800kilos of TNT, Where the Fuck do you get 800kilos of TNT? The cabbies are telling me suggled in from CUBA of all places. Well i hope thats the last of FARC activity there for a while, but I heard the contrary. Only time will tell.
Peter Solano
05-16-07, 08:38
Guys, after giving it much thought I think I have come up with the solution.
Presenting the DAYSAVER © a clever, inexpensive, hot selling small item that can really save your day, both home and abroad should your wallet be stolen or lost.
Made of long lasting, water, moisture, and perspiration resistant washable material.
Comfortable to wear. Totally undetectable when wearing jeans or long pants.
It allows you to carry your credit cards, drivers license and money as well your hotel safe or car or home keys.
Great while working out at the gym, no more leaving your wallet in a locker. For jogging, walking or bicycling.
One size fits all. Completely adjustable, fits both Men and Women.
This is an exclusive custom made item.
Please PM or email me for prices and ordering information. I never expected the response to be so great. It is a truly a small item that can really give you piece of mind.
The only problem I have encountered was shipping it to the States for a modest cost. Servientrega wants $36 for a 5 day service. So the best bet if you know someone coming down have him buy one for you. Cheers, to all, Peter.
Latin Bound
05-16-07, 13:14
What exactly is the daysaver Peter Solano?
Peter Solano
05-16-07, 14:00
What exactly is the daysaver© Peter Solano?The DAYSAVER© is a small BIG hidden wallet, small in size, BIG in storage capacity, you can even put your folding cell phone (4"X3") in it. And it can really save your day should you loose your regular wallet,it won`t leave you stranded without money.
Further more it replaces your regular wallet, just carry in your pocket small change, enough for the cab and a few other things, and the big bills, credit cards ,safe key etc in the DAYSAVER©.
I`ll tell you I have only been selling it for 2 weeks now and I already had to have another batch made, one guy alone from Miami yesterday bought 5 off me.
Please see the pictures. Thank you for your interest. Cheers, Peter.
Peter Solano
05-18-07, 01:10
Someone asked me if the nice leg in the DAYSAVER© pictures is mine... OH COURSE NOT !!!! But it is not included in the low price of the DAYSAVER©.
Sorry Guys !!!! LOL. Peter.
Im posting this here because Master Yodas box is full.
Hola Amigo,
It´s 3:40pm on Thursday. Im in Cali at ApartaHotel del Rio. Avenida 2 Norte, No. 21N-05. Phone number is 660-2713. I´m in Room 702 Torre A. I´ll be here till Saturday Morning. Currently I´m at a cyber and I´ll go back to the Hotel shortly to bathe etc and then go find my date for the evening. Try calling. If I´m not there, I imagine I will certianly be there in the early evening until I go out. Or you can try in the AM as I always sleep late.
Look forward to meeting you. Maybe you will see this soon and we can go hunt chicas together.
Jeff
Master Yoda
06-01-07, 04:58
Hey winner17,
still here buddie.
I have cleared out my message box. look out for my pm.
Hey y'all,
I'm new to this, but I'm heading to Cali in late June. Anyone else gonna be there, who can show me the spots?
Thanks, and peace,
Spv
Quick Summary of non-casa night spots in Cali I visit over the past week:
1. Flores Frescas (3 visits..0 girls) is now a total joke. 15 mil cover, 70 mil for small bottle of rum and coke, 250-300 mil for 1 hour. The girls were the worst I´ve ever seen at Flores Frescas (looks and attitude).
2. Phareon (sp?) (1 visit...1 girl) was a pleasant surprise after FF. No cover, expensive drinks like FF, but only 60 mil for 1 hour with a 19 year old spinner. Unfortunately, her performance was poor and the rooms are very hot and uncomfortable. For 60 Mil you can´t complain too much though.
3. Escoces (sp?) (1 visit...1 girl) was far far better than I´ve ever seen it before. I would say half the girls were better than the best FF girl. No cover, expensive drinks like the others, and 150 Mil for 1 hour. The girl I took (sorry, I never remember names) gave a great performance in the room and was genuine and sweet before and after our time together. I will be back.
4. Sexta Street Girls (2 visits...1 girl). You can usually find something acceptable for 60 Mil. I always have better luck around Sexta and Calle 24 which is about a half mile north of the discos on Sexta. You have to be more careful of diseases than the other three options.
BTW, I often move around Cali using buses during the day and early evening and one bus I frequent takes me on the North-South street through the Central district (really poor area) of Cali and there are always some really nice looking street girls there.
MiamiHeatLuver
06-14-07, 03:09
I would strongly advise ANYBODY seasoned monger or not to stay OUT of el centro and close outskirts from dusk onward! Heck I get scared driving through there just to get to Tienda Vieja. Very Shady People!
Hey guys,
I've been in Cali now for over a month (big deal, huh?? I know!! LOL) and I've been to Medellin a couple of times now. I just got back this afternoon. Definitely no comparison between the two cities; I must say that Medellin takes the big kahuna any day of the week (IMHO). Prettier girls who for the most part are lighter skin and who unlike the girls from Cali, they have the faces and bodies to match 'em.
In any case, Cali has been a real drag in terms of meeting non-pros. I don't know what's up with the attitude and personalities of the women in this town but they definitely suck. Sorry for all you Cali lovers out there. It has been my experience that women here are very hard to become acquainted with and trying to get somewhere with them (i.e. the sack) has proven to be futile. They are very much into making you spend your money, time and energies and not get anywhere with them. It's strikingly similar to what occurs in Sex Prison.
So why come to Cali one may ask? That's what I've been asking myself ever since I've gotten here. It's actually making me want to go back to Sex Prison - kind-of depressing, ain't it?? actually, I think Medellin would do. I definitely recommend Medellin over Cali to anyone who is contemplating visiting either city or who can't make-up their mind which one to visit.
Later and out!!!
So it's Thursday May 31 around 1pm. My plane from Medellin to Cali has just landed and I am off to the minibus to catch a lift to the terminal. Oh.. but before I get on the bus I've got to starting working on a chica. Before I left for Medellin, I called Marcela.. foto posted here by Vatoslocos in March or April and he had PM'd me her number. I had tried calling her from the US in March or April, but the connection was horrendous so I figured I'd make it a point my next trip to Cali to hook up with her. So, I called her from Medellin airport and was told that this is not Marcela's phone. Ok, well who is this? "Luz," she replied. I asked her if she knew Marcela and she said that she did and asked how I knew her. This is where it gets tricky I thought. I explained to her that an acquaintence of mine had met her and her friend back in March and had sent me their foto as well as the name and phone number of Marcela. Ah.. she said, ok well this isn't Marcela's phone, would you like for me to give her a message. Uhmmm... sure, tell her I called her from the US in March or early April, but the connection was very bad and that I am now in Medellin and will be in Cali in about an hour and I will call you back when I arrive for her number. Listo. Chao. So I off I go to catch the bus. I pay my 3500 pesos for the 45 minute ride to the terminal, arrive at the terminal and grab a cab for 3200 pesos to Aparthotel del Rio... same hotel as last time. I arrive, check in, quickly change clothes and try calling Marcela again. No answer. I decide to get a few necesities from the Olympica a few blocks away. Make it back to the Apartahotel around 2pm and try calling again to Marcela. This time I get Luz on the phone again. I ask if she has spoken to Marcela and she said, yes. I say great, do you have her number so I can call her and she explains to me that she knows which fotos I am referring to and which friend sent them to me as she is the other girl in the photo. Oh, great I thought. She continues on telling me that Marcela is pregnant, by her Colombian boyfriend, and has moved in with him. Damn... I thought. Oh well, so which one are you in this foto that my acquaintance has sent me. Sure enough she explained herself to a T. Luz is the one with the bigger tits in Vatolocos 3-some fotos. So I tell Luz, that's I guess too bad about Marcela, but I guess it is good news, no? She agrees and says that she loves him a lot so it's good. We talk a few minutes and I tell her that honestly, I did not know which of you were Marcela in the foto and I would very much like to see you, Luz if you aren't too busy. She tells me, no, that she doesn't do that anymore. All I asked was to see her, so I guess she knew exactly what I wanted. She said she had a freind there with her that woould be more than happy to come to my hotel if I would like. I said, sure why not. Send her over, and if I'm not attracted to her I will pay her cab and send her home. Fair enough, we agreed. About 45 minutes later, arrives the friend of Luz. This gal is about 5'10 (1/2 inch taller than me), blond hair, and pretty big tits... 34 or 36 B or C. You see, I prefer 30B or 32A... so anything over that pretty much turms me off, unless they are like 34B and perfect. So she comes in, we chat, have a few beers, smoke few cigs. The gal is a really nice gal and we have a great rapport going. Unfortunately, I am thinking to myself... you know I'm really not physically attracted to this gal. I'm sure I could take her out for the evening and we'd have an awesome time, but what is the point if I have no interest in fucking her? So after a few beers and some great conversation, I explained to her that I am going to call a friend that I know from previous visits to go out with me for the evening and it would be best if I just give her some cash for a cab and she leave. Tears starting rolling down her face. Boy did I feel like a chump. Don't get me wrong, most guys would think this chica is hot, and she was pretty cool to hang out with.. it's just I'm picky.. I can't get it up for a blond, or someone that isn't at least a few inches shorter than me, or for someone that has tits bigger than 32B... so time is too valuable to waste with someone that is not going to interest me sexually. On hindsight, I probably should have asked for a bbbj right then and there and then sent her away. She would have done it happily as we had a great rapport going. Oh well.
So off she went and off I went to find a cyber to try to hook up with Master Yoda. Time passes and it's now 5:30pm. I've showered and decided to go hunt for a chica. Where was I to go. Just as I finished dressing and putting my shoes on I hear thunder and lightning. "Ah... shit," most might think. But not me. I say, "Bingo!!" You see, rain is a great thing. Rain brings a whole new approach to meeting chicas. So down the elevator I go with my umbrella in hand... not one of those cheap umbrellas. This is a nice-sized conservative black umbrella that I bring from the US. Straight to the bellhop I go. "Senor, hay unas Universidades por aqui?" This man has just made my day. Yes there are 2 and they are both within 3 blocks of my hotel (Apratahotel del Rio). So off I go in the rain, with my umbrella in my left hand and a backpack on my back. Why the backpack? Because I have to act as though I am actually doing something or going from somewhere... course the only thing in the backpack is a pad of paper and a pen.
Rain is a mongerer's best friend. What easier way to talk to any chica you want then go look for them in the rain? And I'm not talking normal chicas. Rain is a bonus. In the rain, you can meet any chica you so fantsy... even perfect 10's. So what's my approach? First I go search for the university, then I find a nice place about a block or 2 away, where I can get a good view of people walking down the sidewalk in all 4 directions (note, this can be done anywhere, it doesn't have to be done in front of Universities. Of course if you are looking for a date with a chica of University age, then ding dong... University would be a good starting point). So I find my spot in front of a bakery ablock away from the closest University, enter the bakery, buy a few pastries and head back out into the rain under my umbrella... at times chomping on my pastry and at times with my cell phone up to my ear acting as though I'm on the phone.
Now I'm a pretty picky cat so i'm not going to rush out and try to meet just anyone. I'm looking for that stunner. That absolute 10 that justifies reason to jump in the sack with someone after I've spent a whole week with my regular gf who has pleased me already every which way and more times in a week that a man deserves to be pleased. So what you do is mark your prey once you see someone that you like/might like. Of course in the rain it's kind of difficult sometimes to get a good look at them as some have on sweats with a hood to block the rain, newpapers over their heads, or anything else they can find to block the pouring rain...and of course some are just walking as fast as possible while they get drenched. So I spend a good 45 minutes to an hour trying to find the one. In an hours time I get 3 numbers from a few smoking hotties. 3 for 3, no rejections. I'm either good, or this rain thing really does work like a charm. Actually though, 1 turned out to be not so hot... blame that on the rain. jajajaja
Unfortunately, I can't land a date for the evening. I'm in Cali, this ain't Medellin. What the heck is the problem? The problem is it's Thursday late afternoon/early evening and I'm trying to land a date for oh... about 2-3 hours from now and it's raining cats and dogs outside so everyone is just trying to get home as fast as possible. Eveyone wants me to call them on Friday to go out Friday night. And of course, I tell them all I will call them all. Can't have 3 dates though? I've taken good notes on all of them though, to help me decide the next morning when I wake up, who is going to be the lucky chica.
Ok so it's now about 6:45pm and I decide to go grab more beer from Olympica to stock up for the night. As I walk out, I see a nice, and I mean nice, body cross right across the street going my way. I instantly throw up the umbrella and dodge traffic to cross the street and catch up with her. The conversation on the walk in the drenching rain goes well. I mean real well, and this gal is smoking. I even ask this gal to take off the hood so I can see her hair. She lowers the hood and wow... not only is her hair beautiful... jet black like I love, her face was amazing. I obviously didn't get a good glance of her before because of the rain, the hood, and her back toward me. At this point, I've decided to detract from my looking for a date in 2-3 hours idea as all I got were numbers for the next day. This gal I ask, "so, where are you headed?" She tells me, "home." "And which way might that be?" I ask. "Are you a extranjero," she asks. Uhmm.. yeah you noticed. "What hotel are you staying at?" "Apartahotel del Rio, por alla y a la derecha," I reply. We are to the point where I am supposed to take a right so I say, "so where is home?"
"Por alla," and she points to the left and starts walking that way. Wait!!!! Once again, I ask the have dinner with me and take me dancing. Once again the repsonse... how about tomorrow night. Shittt!! Fortunately I think fast and say, what are you doing tomorrow in the daytime. Do you live close? Let's see each other tomorrow afternoon, and the date is set for Friday when I wake up I will call her and she should plan to meet me at my hotel around 1pm. I get this gals name and number. She tells me it's Laura Pausini. Laura Pausini? Come on, that's not your name. She insists that it is and I leave it at that. I actually kiss her on the cheek and tell her I'll see her tomorrow.
So, me being a homer... I now have a 1pm date for Friday, 3 for Friday night and nothing for tonight and I am getting hungry. I head back to the hotel and at this point, the same bellhop is still there, but the night guy has also shown up in his street clothes. I remember this guy from last time I was there in March. I tell him my dilemma... that I went looking for a regular gal to go out for the evening. Not necessarily for any hoochie coochie, just a nice looking gal to take to dinner and accompany dancing for the evening and if we hit it off and come back and hit the sack, great. If not, not a problem. So instantly they both start telling me oh, Ive got a gal... in fact one of them pulls out his cell phone and just starts flipping through pics. I say, whoa, whoa, whoa. These are putas, right? How much is this going to cost me? His reply.. for all night.. probably 150k pesos. My response... I'm not looking for a puta I just want company to enjoy the evening and I'd rather take someone out than go at it alone. At this juncture, the other guy jumps in and says I have some friends. I ask him, "Is it going to cost me anything?" Well, yeah probably about 100k pesos, he says. I tell him, ok, call her up, explain to her what I am looking for... a date to go to dinner, to a nice restaurant, and then dancing. If we hit it off and come back and hit the sack, great... we can discuss pricing. If not, then we say our goodbyes and she just had a nice night of dinner and dancing with a gentleman. Ok? I'm going to go up to my room and change shirts as I am soaking wet and then I'll come back down and we'll talk.
I return downstairs and ask him, "What did she say?" His response, "She said she'd be her in 45 minutes." 45 minutes!!! Sweet Jesus that doenst give me much time now does it. How the heck is she going to shower, dress, get a cab and get here in 45 minutes? I question again... now you told her this is a normal date not a puta session, thus no money will be exchanging hands unless we decide to get down and dirty at the end of the night, right? His response, "Yeah, she knows, she's not a puta, she's a normal gal... actually a friend of my family. Ok, then. This should be interesting. My first blind date in who knows how many years. So I start questioning him.. is she good looking, skinny, big tits or small tits, tall or short, black hair or blond hair. Not that it matters as she'll be here in now about 30 minutes??? So, I trust him... yikes that's not something one should do often. He tells me if you don't like her, just send her home when she gets here. Ok, will do.
After I've showered, dressed and the whole bit as fast as possible.. the phone rings. Receptionist tells me I have a guest and I tell her to send her up. Knock on the door... and I open the door and walaaaaa... pure beauty. A little tall for me... 5'7 and I'm 5'9 so all is well, just taller than I am used to. However, long black hair, nice medium sized to smaller tits... about 34a, about 54-55kgs... but she's also tall so she had a nice petite figure, and ah... a beautiful smile. I could tell instantly, this is no puta. This is a regular chica... and the date began.
She comes in, we talk for a bit and then off we go. It's around 8:30pm-9pm at this point. We have dinner, go dancing, and have a few drinks. Amazingly this gal really doesn't know how to dance. I mean... no clue how to dance Regetton, doesn't even attempt to dance Electronica, and frankly I'm a better Meregue and Salsa dancer. We do dance a lot as I love to dance, but obviously there is plenty of time for talk. It ends up she doesn't really get out that often. She's a really nice gal that lives with her family and studies at the University. This is actually just what I was looking for, a normal gal to have normal conversations... ah and by the way, she was a decent kisser nothing spectacular. This has all the signs of a normal chica... 100%. It's actually kind of odd, as many of my past dates in Cali as well aren't very good dancers. Putas for the most part can always dance. Normal non-working Barranquilleras can dance my ass off the floor. Normal non-working Calenas, well they just aren't very good at dancing for some reason. Maybe it's just my luck... or bad luck. Another interesting point about this chica... she's 19 years old, had a 45 year old boyfriend for 2 years (he had dumped her about 6 months earlier). The interesting thing is he moved to Cucuta to meet a European women. She went with him for a few months. It ends up this guy marries a European women for papers to get to Europe and now has a good relationship with his wife. I just thought it was odd. So much talk about Colombianas just looking for a Visa... ends up this Colombiano was looking for one too, and he got it apparently whole breaking the heart of my date that I was currently with.
So it's around midnight, and of course like any horny male, I've undressed this chick in my mind a zillion times over the last 2 hours. Now I am just wondering, how late does this gal want to stay out? If it were up to me, I'd be content on dancing til 5am or content on going back and screwing and going to sleep. I just wonder what she is thinking as I know she has class in the morning and she lives at home so... it is kind of getting late... that is if I plan on taking her back to see my Johnson. Just as I am thinking all of this in my head, she whispers in my ear... "Let's leave." "Yeah it is getting kind of late, let's go back to the hotel and have a drink and call it a night," I remark.
Off we go, cab it back, up the elevator and into the room. Instantly after we both step foot into the hotel room, I grab her and start deep kissing her while firmly caressing one of her tits with my right hand, while my left is squeezing that ass like it's the next best thing to a bowl of arequipe helado. She is very receptive as she grabs my cock through my jeans and has it in a stronghold, without letting go until we stumble all the way to the bed. We quickly undress each other like 2 lovers who haven't seen each other in years. I don't know what it was but as she was taking off my underpants she was stroking my cock with an amazing touch. Something about those soft hands just gave me goosebumps throughout my spine. I've never really felt like that before. Sure gals stroke my cock all the time, but something about this chicas hands were different. We play with each other for about 90 seconds while I have to stop her hands numerous times or else I am going to explode. I grab a condom and lubricant, put them on, mount myself on top of her and explode in very short order. Well shit, that couldn't have been much fun for her. I tell her, let's wait about 20-30 minutes and then try again. I open a few beers, get back in bed and we talk for about 20-30 minutes. Johnson never comes back up and before I know it she has started getting dressed and ready to go. She makes her way to the bathroom, and I slip a few 20k peso bills in her purse. She comes out and we exchange email addresses and phone numbers. We kiss goodbye and agree that it was a fantastic date, I walk her down, flag her a cab, hand her 10k pesos for the cab ride (5k each way), open the door, she enters, I kiss her goodbye again, close the door and she is now on her way home. The discussion of money never comes up, she has no idea that I have put any money in her purse, and I have just had a fantastic date and a cheap session of sex with a very beautiful gal. :-)
albeit... I should have taken a small blue pill to make the fun last longer.
UrbanWildlife
06-14-07, 06:25
I really enjoyed reading your post Winner, as it was very refreshing from the normal shit we read. It was also nice to see you had such a great time!. I hope the rest of your stay is as exciting. I do have a strong suspicion that you will be seeing this girl again very shortly. :) You just have to love the hunt!
Congratulations and thanks for sharing!.
Ms. Pausini is an Italian singer, who sings in Spanish, and has some popular songs in the pop/Espanol genre. I suspect the girl knows/knew who Laura Pausini is.
the girl who showed up in 45 mins was obviously a "prepago" girl.
aka.. not a professional hooker, but a girl who will hook when it suits her. (aka needs the money). They usually start at 100K.
You are correct about Laura Pausini ( I guess I should have added that for those that don't know her music). There's a reason I have included her name that she gave me in the report. You'll understand in future reports.
You are incorrect about the gal that showed up being a prepago. Ok, technically the term... yes. But this was not your normal prepago. She was a down to earth normal chica.
The attached photo on the other hand is a normal prepago. Albeit a Barranquillera not a Calena.
Ms. Pausini is an Italian singer, who sings in Spanish, and has some popular songs in the pop/Espanol genre. I suspect the girl knows/knew who Laura Pausini is.
the girl who showed up in 45 mins was obviously a "prepago" girl.
aka.. not a professional hooker, but a girl who will hook when it suits her. (aka needs the money). They usually start at 100K.
So it's Friday Morning/Late Thursday Evening May 31/June 1.. around 2:30 in the morning. Feeling pretty good about my date that I just had, I really kind of wanted to just unwind and have a few more beers. So I decide to hook it on down to Pharoh's... about 400-500 meters from my Apartahotel. I arrive and the doors are shut and there are 3 groups of males(2-5 per group) sitting around talking. Most of them are Colombian but there are 2 extranjeros in the combined 10 guys out there. Plus there are 4-5 taxi cabs waiting to take home chicas. I ask everyone what's going on and why everyone is outside. The response... place closed at 2am and everyone is waiting on chicas to come out. You're shitting me? 2am. Isn't this Colombia? Local law is joints close early. So I figured I'd sit around as well and see what sort of eye-candy comes outside 1) to see what I missed as I really just wanted to see some hot chicas dancing in skimpy dressed outfits and 2) who knows, maybe I'll be up for round 2. So we wait and wait and wait. While we are waiting, there is a female out there (friends with some of the Colombians) who works inside Pharohs. Not as a puta, I guess more of a door lady... I didn't ask. After talking for a while she told me that there is a place about 2-3 blocks away that is opened till 6am. 6am? But I thought the law was 2am? She said, yeah but they pay the policia. AH... ok and how are the chicas? She said that many of the gals from Pharohs typically head over there depending on how their night went. So, I decide that I'll go check it out. She tells me that while it's only 2-3 blocks, I'd be best off cabbing it as it's not safe to walk there (by cab it's actally more like 6-8 blocks as you have to go a different way). So, I've decided, sure why not, I have nothing better to do and who knows what I might find. So I decide to wait a little longer to see what comes out of Pharohs and then cab it over.
So I'm sitting there waiting and low and behold... 1st chica out is Ms. Laura Pausini. The gal I provided my umbrella services to earlier in the evening. The gal I have a date with in about 10 hours at 1pm on Friday. No shit! That's where she was going, and she had tol me she was going home. So she walks out the front door and doesn't see me as I am kind of caticorner and far away. I watch her for a few minutes as she goes and talks to a group to the right. She sits down there for a few minutes and then goes and grabs this homeless guy who is out there all night long every night. This cat actually speaks a little bit of English. He's very strange as he claims he lived in the US for a while, he's disabled, homeless, and is very very wierd.. not my kind of character. So Laura goes and grabs him and they cross the street and light up a big fattie right there on the sidewalk. She's over there a good 5 minutes, smoking away with her homeless buddy. They finish and stumble back across the street, at which time I put myself right in front of her and say "Hola." She looks at me and jsut about shits. She asks me what I am doing here? I ask her, what is she doing here. This gal is 100% high and remarks... "This is my second home." "Ah, ok." I say. "You are looking mighty hot tonight, looks like you dried up just fine once you got out of the rain," I tell her. She just blushes, embarresed that I have seen her here. At this point I am looking right into her eyes (which are more red then the sunburn I got in Tayrona... and my back and forehead look like a freaking tomato) when I wonder whether I should invite her back to my apartahotel or not. First thing out of my mouth is, "So we're still on for lunch today, right?" She kind of loses her balance for a moment and falls over and says "Yeah, 1 o'clock papi." "Ok Barbie Doll, dont let me down," I reply. To this point, numerous chicas have come out and are either putting themselves in taxi-cabs or mingling around with the men that have been waiting outside for the last hour. I decided, it's getting late.. if I'm going to go check out the other place I better get going. So I hook it back to my apartahotel real quick, grab a beer out of the fridge and a down a little blue pill as my desire to get laid again today has shot up after seeing hot little Laura Pausini.
So beer in hand I walk back down to Pharoh's, hop in one of the cabs waiting there and have him take me to the bar that is 3 blocks away. This bar is called Albaricoque. I haven't seen it on any of the lists here on ISG. Actually when I left there I grabbed a business card. On one side it says Cuban's Night, Albaricoque Bar Sex and on the other side it says Cuban's Dia. Same address. I'll post the address at the bottom of this report. The cab drivers and the gal outside all referred to it as "Albaricoque."
So we go to where the cab driver thinks it is. It's pitch black outside. he says, it should be there... but it looks absolutely pitch black and dead to where he is pointing. Suddenly, out of nowhere this guy shows up and opens my door and welcomes me. I ask the cabbie, is this it? He responds, this is it. I give the cabbie 4k pesos and follow my host.
We walk in and I start asking questions so he sees, yes I am a gringo, but yes I also speak perfectly fluent Spanish. He proceeds to take me to a couch. There are probably a good 20 chicas inside sitting around various couches with around 25-40 males. Pretty happening place I think to myself for 3:30 in the morning. There are also, a few guys and gals dancing with each other here and there. Everywhere I look, everyone is sniffling like they have the flu... so my sense is I am in coke central. Another male comes up to me and asks me if I want a drink. I say sure, what beer do you have. I end up with a Club Colombia... 5k pesos. I explain to the guy that walked me to the couch, that I would like to just kind of sit and relax and also get to know most of the chicas. He asked me what I wanted. I told him the usual... black hair, triguena, petite, preferably below 45kg... definitely below 55kg, preferably small to no tits... definitely nothing any larger than 34B... not sure he understood that. So he goes and brings soone over who introduces herself and sits. I ask her a few questions and this chica is ready to go get it on. I explain to her that I am looking to meet an awful lot of gals, preferably everyone in the joint, and after I have done so I will pick out the lucky lady. So we talk a bit more and I tell her I'll remember her. My "host" comes back over and says, "how was she?" I explained to him.. not really my type, but that I would really like to meet everyone available one by one and talk to each one of them for a good 2 -3 minutes, then I will decide. So 3 beers later after I have met about 12-15 chicas. I have decided on... the 2nd chica I met. I think her name was Mary Luz, but I just don't remember as I have so many sheets of paper with gals names, numbers, and emails that I mixed up who is who on some of them. I'm pretty sure it is Mary Luz. This gal caught my eye the second I saw her and like I said, she was the 2nd one that was introduced to me. We spoke a good 8-10 minutes when she was introudced to me before I shunned her away and told her... I won't forget you. Mind you after every gal introduced to me, my "host" continually asked me... so, are you ready. I continually told him, "No, but so far it's chica #2 that I am planning on going with." I'm pretty sure he kept telling her that after each chica as well as he kept going over to her after we talked and I could tell she looked as anxious as a 5 year old on Christmas waiting to open up his gifts. So chica after chica I talk to, but the whole time I pretty much have made my mind up that I am taking that sweet looking Mary Luz. She had on this nice white thong with a white see through top. She had an ass to die for and while I was taking to every chica one by one I was just visualizing myself sticking my hard cock into Mary Luz doggie style while she screams, "Mas duro, papi. Mas duro."
So finally we are done, over-all the chicas aren't too bad, but not too many that are really spectacular either. I'd kind of compare it to la Mayorista in Medellin. You just have to find the right one. So back comes Mary Luz, she sits as I finish up my beer and asks for a drink. I ask, "what would you like?" She responds, "I only drink Colada." "Pina Colada, I respond, and how much would that cost me?" "15k pesos, she says." "15 mil pesos!!!! No mi amor, no hay Pina Coladas hoy, todo la leche que necesitas esta sentado aqui." She laughs and we start talking pricing. Mind you, my "host" has come back by about 15 times throughout the night asking for his "propina." And every time I tell him, "At the end of the night." And he always just sniffs like he still has a little white powder on his nostril and then walks away. While at the same time I am thinking to myself, "Why the hell am I going to tip someone? Is this normal?" Regardless, Pedro or whatever his name is certianly is counting on his tip at the end of the night. So I start talking business with my chica. She tells me.. 40k for 30 minutes, 50k for 45 minutes and 80k for an hour. Hmmm... seems kind of steep. It is 4:30 or 5am and I rarely frequent these joints so I'm really not sure if she is full of shit or not. I also think to myself... why would it be 50k for 45 mintues and 80k for an hour? That really doesn't make a lot of sense. So I call over my "host" and tell him I am ready to go. But I say, wait... "how much did you tell me it is going to cost for a chica?" He looks at Mary Luz and at this point I see Mary Luz doing all these hand signals. He says, "Did Mary Luz tell you the prices?" "Yeah, but I want you to tell them to me," I said. At this point I am positioned where I see both their faces and they both have this look on their face looking at each other like, "what the fuck do I say?" Again but very firmly I say, "Pedro, what are the prices?" Instantly he respondes... 30k pesos for 30 mintues or 40k pesos for 45 minutes." AH... as I stop him right there. "Bueno, vamos Mary Luz. 40 mil pesos para 45 minutos." I hand her the cash and up the stairs we go.
We get upstairs and she has her own room. She sleeps in this room as well byherself. She has 2 beds though in her room. Her "fuck bed" and the bed she sleeps in. We talk a bit and I ask her how long has she lived here. She's been there almost 2 months and she said it's her second home. That's the second time I've heard that tonight (the first time being Laura Pausini). It's rare as I just have never heard a chica say that before... kinda like they are proud that they have 2 homes. So we start getting down to business. Mind you, I gulped a little blue pill about 90 minutes earlier. I love Mary Luz's outifit so I tell her to turn on some music and dance for me on the bed. She has the guys below turn on the speaker and she dances almost 2 full songs for me and then strips and starts sucking Johnson. I don't have to ask for bbbj, she just gets right into it from the strip show. After a few minutes of sucking she reaches for a condom. I pull mine out from my wallet and she says,"no." She says that hers are better. I say maybe, but mine are pretty good.... Trojan Extra Thin Extra Lubricated. I explain this to her and she tells me that her condoms are thin also and will make me enjoy it more. Unbelieving of this I think wha the hell. Why not?
So she puts it on me and we go through all the positions. At this point I start realizing that this chica isn't as hot as she looked downstairs in the dark. Not bad... probably 165cm, 52kgs, thin thighs, a nice ass... I mean real nice, smaller than normal titties(which is good).. but they aren't real flattering to look at, and a little bit over average face for your normal Colombiana. Nothing really to write home about. So we go at it a while and then talk a bit. Exchange email addresses. She asks what I am doing in the daytime. I ask her, "Why? What are you doing? Would you like to come to my apartahotel?" She says, "Sure, but it will cost me 80k pesos." I tell her I actually already have plans and that I leave on Saturday so no chance for us to get together again. However, let's stay in touch via email. She agrees and I get dressed and head toward the front door. Just as I am opening it, low and behold Pedro (that is not really his name... I just dont remember it) comes running up. Mi propina, mi propina!! I open the door- almost getting blinded by the sunlight. I pull out a 2k peso bill, hand it to him, tell him firmly that it's all I have and he proceeds to walk me to the end of the street to fetch a cab asking if I enjoyed myself and what-not. I tell him it was great and he hands me a business card and tells me to tell all my friends. I get in the cab, tell him where I am going... look at my watch and realize it's 7:30am. I was in that room for almost 2 hours. I guess they don't monitor the 45 minutes too closely.
To be continued
Albaricoque.. also known as Cuban's Dia and Cuban's Night.
Av. 2E Norte #24n 76
681-3427 fijo
(313) 6866877 cell
On both sides of the card, by the phone number it says "Luz Verde" I have no clue why? I don't recall seeing a green light. But I do remember that there are no markings on the outside or any noise, lights, signs.. nada to let you know you've found the place. A guy just walked up out of nowhere once we got there in the cab.
Hours on the business card for Cuban's Dia says 9am-5pm
No hours listed for Cuban's Night/Albaricoque Bar Sex.. though I was told it closes at 6am.. and I walked out at 7:30am... so??? The place did still have people in it when I left. Most of them enjoying their white powder.
So I wake up on Friday, June 1 around 12:30pm. Sheesh... I told Laura Pausini I would call her and we have a 1pm date. Nothing to fear, Colombianas are rarely punctual, so I'm free to be a little slow from time to time as well. Slow is probably not the word. Hangover from hell would be more like it. So I get out of bed, look for her number and dial her up. Voicemail. I wait a good 10 minutes and try her again. This time she answers, and by the sound of it she sounds like she feels about as good as me. I explain to her that I feel like doo-doo but that I really want to see her. I tell her, I know it was probably embarressing for her that I saw her outside her "2nd home" last night, smoking a fattie. She didn't make any remarks to that comment. I ask her if she would like to come over, but explain that we'll probably just hang around the hotel room and go get a bite to eat. She obliges and says she'll be over around 2:30pm. 2:30pm? That's like an hour and a half, so I say fine... and then figure I'll get another hour of shuteye. Next thing I know, the phone rings. It's the reception. I look at my clock and it's 3:15pm. I snoozed a little too long. There's a knock on the door, I open and just as I had dreamed... a lovely petite princess is now in my room. This gal is probably the most attractive gal I have met on this trip in Cali. 46-48 kgs of sheer beauty. She comes in and I tell her to feel free to sit on the bed. She lies down on the bed and I decide, heck why not get back into bed. Next to my bed is MP3 player that I alsways take with me. It has my favorite Regetton and Electronica music that I love turning on and having my Colombian beauties dance for me on the bed in their skivvies and then proceed to give me a strip tease. I love doing this. What is also has is my favorite Laura Pausini and Enya tunes. So this is perfect, I have an mp3 player hooked up to my mini speakers which is full of Regetton, Electronica, Laura Pausini, and Enya. So what do I do? You guessed, I flip to the artist known as Laura Pausini... song after song. The old ones, as those are my favorite sleep tunes. I get under the covers and before I know it she's under the covers with me as well. I give her a nice kiss on the lips and then back off. Love this game. We stare at each other eye to eye for a good 2-3 minutes kind of in a lazy fashion, while we listen to the beuatiful Italian singing "No digas no." Pretty much both of us are saying to one another with our eyes, "I'm tired as shit." I put her in my arms and close my eyes.
Next thing I know, I'm looking at my clock and it's 6pm. This Calena beauty fast asleep right next to me, fully clothed. I decide it's about time to wake up so I put my hand on her tummy under her shirt. She kind of squirmishes as my hands are truthfully pretty cold( I keep the room like an ice chest). I start rubbing her tummy and then go for the gold. I unbutton the top (only) button on her jeans, zip them down a bit and start rubbing my fingers on her pussy between her jeans and panties. I then go inside the panties and she continues to act like she is sleeping not making a sound. I contiune to play with her for the next few minutes until now I start feeling her get really wet. I insert 1 finger as it's difficult to insert any more than that as her jeans are on and she is very tight. She starts moaning a bit as I stick my finger deeper and deeper inside of her. So I have this 9+ in bed with me, I've probably said a whole 20 words to her since she arrived and now it looks as though the fun stuff is going to start. I continue fingering her with one finger and then begin to kiss her. She responds and before I know it we are kissing rather deeply. I'm actually a little embarresed as I have not brushed my teeth nor showered from the night before. I ask her if it's ok to shower, she takes one look at the shower (which is a shower inside of a huge bathtub) and we're both out of bed within a few seconds. We take off all our clothes and I am in heaven. This gal has the most perfect titties I have ever seen, a delicious looking box, and a face that is just so innocent looking. We get in the shower where we continue kissing. I then lather her up with soap and turn her around so I can caress those beautiful gentle breasts from behind. At this point, my dick is harder than a log and he's ready to play. While I typically don't enter sin condom, it was extremely tempting. I felt myself bending my knees with my dick in hand trying to put it in her from behind. It was difficult as she is pretty short and and has a tight pussy. So I have my dick in one hand and my other hand sticking a finger in her pussy while I am kissing her neck with water pounding onto my face (actually the water pressure isn't that strong). After a few minutes of more moaning while I finger her, she turns around and pushes me to the back of the shower (tub) where there is a small bench and I kind of sit/lie down with my back against the glass. She gets on her knees and starts sucking my dick. I don't know what it is, but Colombianas love to suck dick. What a country. It's like they are born with the knowledge of how to suck dick, and suck it good. For the next 5 minutes I am in heaven. As I begin to feel myself coming I continutally push her away as I do not want to come as I want to fuck the shit out of this chick. Unfortunately, Johnson has different ideas and before I know it she is sucking me dry. After she finishes, we kiss a bit in the shower and then exit.
We dry off, I brush my teeth and go instantly to the fridge and grab a bottle of water and down a blue pill. No way is Laura Pausini going to get out of my hotel without me testing the goods. She gets into bed naked, so I carry her over a bottle of Manzana (Apple drink) and enter the bed naked as well. We both sip on our bebida a few times and then start playing with one another. Actually I'm playing with her, trying to kind of keep her hands away from me for a bit as Johnson is in the shriveled up position. This doesn't last long as I have the hots for this chica. She is a beauty. You can all imagine what happens next, and the next 20 minutes could possibly have been the best 20 minutes of sex I have ever had. It was amazing how tight this gal was. When I saw her walking down the street yesterday in the rain, this was my dream. But after finding out she was a working gal at Pharohs, I did not imagine she would be so tight (note... I love tight chicas). So we finish up, I grab the towel and we do a half ass job of cleaning ourselves and I continue to kiss her until finally I just rest my head on her just with my mouth on her right tit. These tits are just perfect. She is stroking my hair, and the next thing I know it is 8pm and Laura Pausini is no longer in my bed. The bathroom door is open and I don't see her, so I go check on the balcony. Nada... I put on some shorts and a t-shirt and head downstairs and ask the front desk if they have seen her. They told me she left about an hour ago. Thus this beautiful angel in my arms has left without saying good-bye. Bummer.
I go back up to my room and start debating what I am going to do for the evening. The first thought in my head is to call Laura... but then I realize, she probably left because it's Friday night and my assumption is she has to work. I look around to see if anything is missing as I didn't think of that before I went downstairs. Looks as though everything is right where it is supposed to be. Check my wallet.. all my money that was in there is still there. Check my secret hiding spots where I stash cash in various spots... all clear. Nothing missing. So it turns out, the rainy day search yesterday turned into possibly the best session I have ever had in my life with an absolute angel, in bed listening to one of my favorite musicians, and it was absolutely free. No lunch, no dinner, no drinks, no cash, nada. Just a bottle of apple juice and some fantastic company. So what's next? It's my last night in Colombia after a fantastic 10 day trip. Should I call Laura and take her out for the night?
To be continued.
that place is literally two blocks up the street LOL
cabbing there is too funny.
I think either that place or another right next to it on that block is for sale.. I saw it in the El Pais classifieds.
Hey guys,
I've been in Cali now for over a month (big deal, huh?? I know!! LOL) and I've been to Medellin a couple of times now. I just got back this afternoon. Definitely no comparison between the two cities; I must say that Medellin takes the big kahuna any day of the week (IMHO). Prettier girls who for the most part are lighter skin and who unlike the girls from Cali, they have the faces and bodies to match 'em.
In any case, Cali has been a real drag in terms of meeting non-pros. I don't know what's up with the attitude and personalities of the women in this town but they definitely suck. Sorry for all you Cali lovers out there. It has been my experience that women here are very hard to become acquainted with and trying to get somewhere with them (i.e. the sack) has proven to be futile. They are very much into making you spend your money, time and energies and not get anywhere with them. It's strikingly similar to what occurs in Sex Prison.
So why come to Cali one may ask? That's what I've been asking myself ever since I've gotten here. It's actually making me want to go back to Sex Prison - kind-of depressing, ain't it?? actually, I think Medellin would do. I definitely recommend Medellin over Cali to anyone who is contemplating visiting either city or who can't make-up their mind which one to visit.
Later and out!!!
Wow ... very interesting. I have to agree that Medellin is such a nicer city, would choose it any day over Cali.
However ... I find the chicas in Cali to be incredible ... I have several "girlfriends" there now and it's hard not to meet more of them.
Sounds like you had some bad luck amigo.
Hey Ricker, it is my understanding that you're "The Man" in Cali. Who like you, my friend. Being able to have several girlfriends in Cali is a thing of mayor leagues (so to speak). My hat off to you sir; honestly!! You must be either a very good looking fellow or someone with a lot of bling bling or both. Since it seems that you need a lot of either (or both) to hook up with a non-pro chica in this place.
A couple of nights ago I signed up with Amigos.com - I loaded a few pictures of myself and created my profile and everything else. Nothing has happened. I wrote to a whole bunch of girls from this city and non has responded. I try talking to them around town but to no avail. I guess it doesn't help that I'm originally from this place but having been brought-up and raised in the U.S. - so my non-Caleno spanish accent doesn't work to my advantage when by sight, I pass for a Colombiano. Women here expect me to be 100% Colombiano in every aspect since I'm not white - so they don't cut me any slack. In many ways this place makes me feel like being in a semi-sex prison. If it weren't for the casas with the unmotivated chicas, there wouldn't be much difference between Sex Prison USA and this place - to be honest with you.
And people in Cali are not nowhere near friendly as the people in Medellin. Over there it is far more easier to strike-up a conversation with a regular chica. Something that ofcourse cannot be done in Cali. The attitude of women in this city is that they are too good for anyone who is not some white foreigner or some alpha-male bad boy Colombiano who probably cheats on them and treats them like shit. My two-cents worth. The only reason why I came here in the first place was family related and it's the only reason why I must remain here for a while to come. Bummer!!! Thinking about it, Sex Prison USA is not as bad as everyone puts it. Especially when compared to this freakin' place.
Dude, I think you're the first person I've ever heard say that girls in Medellin are easier to meet than the ones in Cali. You may very well be right, but you are certainly the first person I've heard say it.
the conventional wisdom is that MDG women are more stuck up. (I've never been to MDG, just repeating what I've heard)
to say it's impossible to strike up a conversation with a regular girl in Cali is one of the more ridiculous things I've ever heard. That's certainly not been my experience.
and I don't play the "gringo game". Ever. (by this I mean I never act like one, and don't introduce myself as one. And I can honestly do it, since I'm actually an immigrant, therefore not "technically" a gringo, but of course by looks, they all assume I am one. Then I have to strip away their dumb gringo assumptions)
amigo.com sucks. If you want the best such cyberdating site for Colombianas period, PM me.
shit.. I even got laid on the first date with a girl I met off there LOL (and no she didn't want any money.. though she did ask for taxi fare home in the early morning)
This bar is called Albaricoque. I haven't seen it on any of the lists here on ISG. So I start talking business with my chica. She tells me.. 40k for 30 minutes, 50k for 45 minutes and 80k for an hour. Hmmm... seems kind of steep. So I call over my "host" and tell him I am ready to go. But I say, wait... "how much did you tell me it is going to cost for a chica?" He looks at Mary Luz and at this point I see Mary Luz doing all these hand signals. He says, "Did Mary Luz tell you the prices?" "Yeah, but I want you to tell them to me," I said. At this point I am positioned where I see both their faces and they both have this look on their face looking at each other like, "what the fuck do I say?" Again but very firmly I say, "Pedro, what are the prices?" Instantly he respondes... 30k pesos for 30 mintues or 40k pesos for 45 minutes." AH... as I stop him right there. "Bueno, vamos Mary Luz. 40 mil pesos para 45 minutos." I hand her the cash and up the stairs we go.
Albaricoque.. also known as Cuban's Dia and Cuban's Night.
Av. 2E Norte #24n 76
681-3427
Winner71,
Actually Albaricoque IS listed in the Cali lists under San Vicente and prices are quoted at P$45.000 60 mins., $35.000 30 mins. I was there three weeks ago but I didn't see anything I liked so I didn't inquire as to pricing. Instead went dowb the block to Geisha’s Club (also listed), Avenida 2E Norte #24N-114. Tel: 682 3164. P$40.000 60 mins. & $30.000 30 mins. It was the middle of the week and here too I didn't see anything I liked so I went around the block to Fantasia (NOT listed and sorry I don't have the exact address but it is around the block from the other two places, NOTE, it is around the block on the next street over NOT around the corner).
Fantasia I found to be very nice with 6 girls of which 2 were good looking and one very HOT. The place is nicely furnished and towards the back there is a large dance stage for girlie shows and even a glass walled shower for shows as well and a DJ's booth. Pricing was $40,000 cop for the hour and and I tipped the HOT babe $10,000 cop for going bareback all the way. Only drawback was she was a bit camera shy.
Overall all three places looked to be ideal places to hit on the weekend because I was told at each one that the weekends draw a lot of girls to work. The prices are reasonable and you can actually sit and talk for a long while with as many girls as you wish.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Hey Ricker, it is my understanding that you're "The Man" in Cali. Who like you, my friend. Being able to have several girlfriends in Cali is a thing of mayor leagues (so to speak). My hat off to you sir; honestly!! You must be either a very good looking fellow or someone with a lot of bling bling or both. Since it seems that you need a lot of either (or both) to hook up with a non-pro chica in this place ...
Not sure if I'm quite "the Man" in Cali ... sounds good though.
I think Cubanut runs around a bit more than me these days ... at least in the PFP area.
Luckily for me, I get to spend quite a few nights in Cali. I have been lucky to meet many chicas ... non pros.
I'm a normal looking guy, and definitely not bling bling flashy. I'm very friendly though and easy going.
Not sure about your bad luck, but I find it pretty easy to meet these chicas. Most guys I know say the same thing about the chicas in Cali.
I'm not into the internet dating anymore, too many disappointments and it's so much easier in person I find.
I'm pretty good at weeding out the interesadas too ... lots of experience at that.
I've been around both and Cali and Medellin quite a bit. To be honest, the chicas are very friendly in both cities, the upper crust Paisas (Medellin) definitely can be uppity though.
I've found the Paisas to be more drama-filled than the Calena in relationships also ... but both are great in general, especially compared to the typical gringa.
I hope your luck changes ... the odds are good amigo :)
If you look non-Colombian, speak decent Spanish, dress well, are confident, polite, and not too cheap, you will do well with the Colombian non-pros. IMO, if you are missing some of those characteristics, you may stuggle with non-pros in Cali. I think Ricker has all those characteristics and I can imagine it's very easy for him.
Due to my limited Spanish, picking up Non-pros has been a real challange even though I know the Cali scene and Colombian women very well (30-60 nights per year in Colombia). I've tried the non-pros many times and I really don't think my Spanish is all that bad, but I can't make out a friggin word they are saying most of the time. The pros are much more patient and clear when communicating (for obvious reasons $$$) and sadly I usually take the easy way and go straight to them.
Thanks for the feedback, you guys. Seriously, it has been a matter of bad luck but also it´s the way these Caleńas are everyday more alike AW. GLobalization is to blame, for sure. CHicas here are very much into taking you for your money. THey see un gringos and ¨gringos¨ (like myself) as meal tickets and walking ATMS. They show up for dinners and lunches and ofcourse, to go out partying and dancing but then they don´t put out. A lot of head games and B.S. And for you guys out there who are thinking that this place is paradise, considering the high cost of living and prices for everything and the decline of our beloved U.S. Dollar - other destinations might make for more suitable hunting grounds. Just my two cents worth!!!
MiamiHeatLuver
06-20-07, 19:42
Thanks for the feedback, you guys. Seriously, it has been a matter of bad luck but also it´s the way these Caleńas are everyday more alike AW. GLobalization is to blame, for sure. CHicas here are very much into taking you for your money. THey see un gringos and ¨gringos¨ (like myself) as meal tickets and walking ATMS. They show up for dinners and lunches and ofcourse, to go out partying and dancing but then they don´t put out. A lot of head games and B.S. And for you guys out there who are thinking that this place is paradise, considering the high cost of living and prices for everything and the decline of our beloved U.S. Dollar - other destinations might make for more suitable hunting grounds. Just my two cents worth!!!
COLOMBIANAS as a whole have the MOST DRAMA of any people I have met in the planet. Every on of them has something "tragic" going on and they make mountains out if mole hills for some of the stupidest things. It seems that the drama rush is a way of life there and keeps them going in their mundane worlds. Keep plugging away Cyber, you WILL find what you are looking for someday soon!
COLOMBIANAS as a whole have the MOST DRAMA of any people I have met in the planet. Every on of them has something "tragic" going on and they make mountains out if mole hills for some of the stupidest things. It seems that the drama rush is a way of life there and keeps them going in their mundane worlds. Sounds to me like a pretty accurate description of hookers everywhere.
Italians are the biggest drama queens in the world. Just look how they also flop in soccer. They are the worst. And heaven forbid you confront one of them in Cartagena, after they call you a " fucking american jew", even when you are not a jew, then they act like the little meterosexual bitches they are.
MiamiHeatLuver
06-20-07, 22:02
Italians are the biggest drama queens in the world. Just look how they also flop in soccer. They are the worst. And heaven forbid you confront one of them in Cartagena, after they call you a " fucking american jew", even when you are not a jew, then they act like the little meterosexual bitches they are.
I am definately not the tough guy type and dont act like it as well, Neither do I go out looking for trouble, NOR am I a six-packer or drunken loud American, BUTTTTTTTTT if a stranger whom I dont know called me that for no APARENT reason, I dont give a shit who they are or where they are from.(unless they are Colombiano Mafioso types, Im not stupid lol) I would definately HAVE TO throw down.
Wow... not me. Violence never solves anything in my opinion. I'm a lover not a fighter. Someone can use me as a punching bag and I would still just walk away. That's just me. Of course it's never happened before. Actually the last fight I was in was when I was 9 years old. I got my hand cut up on my next door neighbors braces... and that was the end of it. Never again have I swung or been swung at.
As for Colombianas and drama. I've seen it with normal Paisas and Colombian pros, but I'd never say ALL Colombianas are this way. In fact, this is why I prefer a Colombiana over a gringa. I get absolutley zero drama from my Colombian gf. In fact if there is any drama in our relationship it's on my part for occasionaly wanting to drop my pants with other chicas.
I am definately not the tough guy type and dont act like it as well, Neither do I go out looking for trouble, NOR am I a six-packer or drunken loud American, BUTTTTTTTTT if a stranger whom I dont know called me that for no APARENT reason, I dont give a shit who they are or where they are from.(unless they are Colombiano Mafioso types, Im not stupid lol) I would definately HAVE TO throw down.
MiamiHeatLuver
06-20-07, 22:54
As for Colombianas and drama. I've seen it with normal Paisas and Colombian pros, but I'd never say ALL Colombianas are this way. In fact, this is why I prefer a Colombiana over a gringa. I get absolutley zero drama from my Colombian gf. In fact if there is any drama in our relationship it's on my part for occasionaly wanting to drop my pants with other chicas.
Winner: Pros have the most B.S. drama of course, but many of the paisas, calenas that I have dated/encountered have some drama as well, just at different levels and different instances, DARE I SAY ALL? No, but most. IMO. American girls, forget it, They have lost their humbleness when they are expelled from the womb. Your Novia doesnt give you drama, mine neither. Excellent, good for you! You have a keeper! Dont let her go!
Thanks for the feedback, you guys. Seriously, it has been a matter of bad luck but also it´s the way these Caleńas are everyday more alike AW. GLobalization is to blame, for sure. CHicas here are very much into taking you for your money. THey see un gringos and ¨gringos¨ (like myself) as meal tickets and walking ATMS. They show up for dinners and lunches and ofcourse, to go out partying and dancing but then they don´t put out. A lot of head games and B.S. And for you guys out there who are thinking that this place is paradise, considering the high cost of living and prices for everything and the decline of our beloved U.S. Dollar - other destinations might make for more suitable hunting grounds. Just my two cents worth!!!
dude I replied to your PM, btw.
the meal ticket and walking ATM phenomenon is a factor in such relationships everywhere in the world.. whether that be with local women in your own country or abroad.
You simply have to navigate the maze and learn who the gasolineras are. (and let the big head do the thinking)
high cost of living? compared to what and where?
I can probably live fairly comfortably in Cali on $1000 US a month and that's even at the shitty 2000 to 1 exchange rate.
of course I'm not a creature of comfort.
I did grab the Italian S.O.B. and said to his face in both Spanish and English, " say it again", with my fist cocked and ready to punch. Then I was pushed away by a Colombiano and the Italian was grabbed by two bouncers and thrown out of the bar. It was an upstairs bar in the old city, a new trendy place. This Italian was mad because one of the two grils that I had with me, rebuked his advances, while I went to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). After I got back to the girls, both girls told me that this guy was all over my chicas friend and that she was not happy about it. So I asked the Italian to " leave her alone, she does not like you", that is when the "fucking american jew" insult was spewed out.
The next day I was in laquito at riquissmo's eating lunch when two guys from spain came up to me and said they had wished I would have flatten the Italian, they too were tired of their behavior.....
Instead of paying some guy $ 25-30 for a taxi ride. Is there a bus that goes from the airport to chippichape, or do I have to take it to a main terminal, then to chippichape.
I arrive in Cali 3 weeks from now in the early afternoon, is this doable?
Instead of paying some guy $ 25-30 for a taxi ride. Is their a bus that goes from the airport to chippichape, or do I have to take it to a main terminal, then to chippichape.
I arrive in Cali 3 weeks from now in the early afternoon, is this doable?Just take a busseta from the airport, and they will drop you a the Terminal de transporte,
Kukulkan
FoxesHunter
06-24-07, 14:56
Hi, can anybody tell me what difference there is between Cali and Medellin about non-pro scene? I know Medellin and I'd like to know what difference about the behaves of girls in Cali and Medellin. How must a stranger be involved with a non-pro girl in Cali? Has he to pay something? What?
Thanks
Hi, can anybody tell me what difference there is between Cali and Medellin about non-pro scene? I know Medellin and I'd like to know what difference about the behaves of girls in Cali and Medellin. How must a stranger be involved with a non-pro girl in Cali? Has he to pay something? What?
ThanksA lot of Drama in Medellin, The Paisas are thinking they are the last Cocacola in the desert.
But I still love them
Kukulkan
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Gents, this is the Cali Report section. Can we all agree to post reports or responses to reports and keep the bickering in the general information section.
Thanks
And now the report:
Last month in the middle of May I was busy enjoying one of the fruits of Cali when I got a phone call on my cell. Normally I ignore cell calls when I am in deep concentration or just deep in a Calena. However the phone rang then stopped then rang and stopped and rang again so I pulled out of my sweet poon and answered. It was my buddy calling me from the States. He called to ask me to do him a favor.
**A little background is first in order: On my previous trip to Cali my buddy had joined me and in mid vacation he met and fell for a Calena. He now was regularly supplementing her income with bi weekly $ installments.**
So my buddy says his girlfriend has a problem in that she lost her cedula and needed to get a new one but needed some cash to do it but without her cedula she could not produce an ID necessary to retrieve the money from a Money gram. He wanted to send her $100 usd and could I give it to her and he's pay me back when I returned home. I assured him it was no problem at all and arranged for her to meet me at my hotel in three hours. We hung up and I re-entered my awaiting Calena and capped off a nice afternoon do.
Back at the hotel I showered and waited for my buddy's girlfriend. She showed up right on time at six o'clock. While we sat having a drink in front of my hotel (Cali Plaza) Robert (from Medellin Mansion/Castillo) and another friend had just gotten into Cali and were staying at a hotel two blocks away and asked if I had any dinner plans. I didn't but I asked if it was OK to bring a date. It was and we joined them at a very nice steak house (I forget the name though). The guys commented that my buddy's girlfriend was quite good looking. I agreed but assured them I was just being nice to invite her to dinner. During dinner, we had a most unusual conversation. I told them how my buddt's girlfriend was looking for a job but had no rel skills to speak of.
Now I ask you gents: How does a good looking girl with no skill sets make money? Well I'm sure we can all cum up with the same answer but I decided to try a different suggestion. So I asked my buddy's girlfriend if she had ever thought about being a madam. She said no but that it would cost a lot to set up a place of business. i agreed this was true but I asked her why not try it a different way. I told her about how many ads there were in the Pais adult section and that she could take out an ad that appealed to girls/women with loose morals looking to make money. I explained she could interview the girls first and decide if they were good enough to present to horny gringos like me. We went into more detail as to what to do once she had her stable of girls but in actuality I thought this would all be forgotten by her by the time she woke up the next day. We changed subjects and finished dinner and I put her in a cab with her money and bid her goodnight and the guys and I went out on the town.
Three days later just about noon I'm in my room just out of the shower when my hotel phone rings. The doorman says there is a girl here to see me and it turns out to be my buddy's girlfriend. So I tell him to send her in and she's all smiles and taking fast. i tell her to slow down and she shows me a copy of the Pais and flips to the adult section. She points to a circled ad and I start to laugh. It an ad for girls looking to make a buck and at the end is my buddy's girlfriend's cell phone number. She's all smiles and says she took it out for 4 days and it appeared today and she already got a call and if I'd be interested in meeting the girl. I asked if she had met her yet and she said yes and she's really nice. I told her that was good and when did the girl want to meet me. "Now" she says. "What do you mean now"? I asked. "She's out in front and she's pretty and all she wants is $100,000 for 2 hours and I'll get $20,000 for the referral, she really went for the idea". She says.
Oh boy, I'm thinking to myself. What did I get myself into? I didn't really think she would take out the ad at all let alone have a girl delivered to me. Well I thought it couldn't hurt to see what she looked like and a I'd be nice enough to do her if she was a least half way decent. I mean I know she said the girl was pretty but that didn't mean shit to me because I've seen what some girls think is pretty and I usually am in disagreement.
So I finished getting dressed and head out to the patio with my buddy's girlfriend. I get out and see only one girl sitting at a table in front. At this point I am hopping this is the girl because she is stunningly pretty. BINGO! She is the girl and I am one happy camper. Not only is she very pretty but she has the daintiest of voices I have heard in a while and has a nice personality. We sat and had a beer (yes she liked beer too) and then my girlfriend's buddy said she had to go. So I asked the girl how she wanted to do this. I meant did I give the madam the $20,000 cop fee or did she. She asked if I could give it to her and I did and off my girlfriend went and the girl and I were back in my room and locking lips and groins almost as fast as we could jump on the bed. This girl was NICE! I asked for bareback everything and she agreed but for $20,000 cop more which I gladly agreed to. True to her word she would have stayed for two hours but I had a meeting to get to with Robert and my other friend so I cut her loose after 90 minutes. Now it turned out that she was a working girl that was looking for some extra cash on the side on her days off so she wasn't new to the Pay for Play scene which was alright with me because she knew how to please a man for sure. Also, although she let me take many pictures of her clothed, she would not do so nude.
So this situation of My girlfriend's buddy showing up at noon with a new girl would happen the next day and the next day again. She was happy, the girls were happy and I was real happy that the madam was consistent in the quality. Also it turned out that the next two also were working girls in P4P places I never heard of before but worked at night and had the daytime to kill so why not make some money.
TRAGEDY STRIKES!
My buddy's girlfriend had introduced me to a third girl but before she left she asked about going out to dinner that evening since I had only three days left in town. I agreed and we went to Simon Parilla which by the way has great steaks and also great Sancocho de Gallina. Afterwards we went back to my hotel and walked across the street to the Viejo Barril for some drinks. She was getting a bit tipsy on tequila and I told her it was time for her to hit the road so i could do some night prowling. So I walked her to the corner and hailed a taxi and she took off. The next morning I get a call from my buddy asking me to call his girlfriend at her mother's home number because she had called him and was crying and he couldn't understand why. So he gave me her mom's number and I called. It turned out that the taxi driver she had gone with pulled a knife on her and stole her purse and her cellphone. OH CRAP! I thought, because I hadn't bothered to get any of the girls info like their cell PHONE numbers because my buddy's girlfriend had them in her cellphone and not only that, if any more girls called in answer to the ad she wouldn't get the calls!
Longer story shortened up my buddy's girlfriend was not hurt in the incident but was sheaken up and again did not have a cedula. So once again I spotted my buddy some money to give to his girlfriend for a new cellphone and I felt so bad about being the one hailing the taxi that ripped her off that I gave her an extra $50,000 cop for her to get a new cedeula. She'd be able to regain her same cell number in couple of days as well but I would be gone by then.
So at least I got three girls from this new "madam" and I guess I lucked out because I batted three for three meaning that each one was a hit. However, my buddy tells me that his girlfriend spent the money he gave her through me on something else and not a new cellphone. Now she wanted much more for one of those Motorla "has everything" cellphones at a cost of $250 usd. To date he hasn't sent her the money for it yet even though she did get a new cedula.
Cheers,
Cubanut
BTW-Gents, whenever possible in Cali, call for a taxi for your girl/female friend instead of hailing one down. The company will give you a three digit number and the taxi will arrive and repeat the number. Just a safety tip because it seems that the chicas are more of a target that foriegners these days in Cali.
UrbanWildlife
06-25-07, 01:18
Your chica numero uno is off the charts!
You talk about breathtaking beauty!. WOW!
Member #4351
06-25-07, 01:37
Great report! Too bad she lost the numbers, I´d definitely be interested in chicas 1 and 2.
Cubanut,
Now that is the kind of story I like. Someone trys to make some money insteed of asking for it. The ending was bad but now she knows how to make money and still no work haed for it good for her and who says every good deed gets punished. You got 3 girls delivered to your door and you where happy too. This girl will do ok. And in the future if she starts a bussness every body here will help her help us jajajaja.
As usual Cuba, you are the man. I will be in MDE next week. I hope to hope to put all u have taught me too work.
Thanks again
........OH CRAP! I thought because I hadn't bothered to get any of the girls info like their cell numbers because my buddy's girlfriend had them in her cellphone and not only that, if an more girls called in answer to the ad she wouldn't get the calls! .....
With all your experience in South America you still rely on a chica to retain information, especially gold nuggets like #1???? Dammit!!
I'm going to cry myself to sleep.
Polvo
Just got back from my first trip to Cali. My first comment is..who needs pros? It is the easiest pick-up spot I have ever been to in my life. And this includes Medellin.
Just got back from my first trip to Cali. My first comment is..who needs pros? It is the easiest pick-up spot I have ever been to in my life. And this includes Medellin.
Who needs pros Q Bert? Apparently YOU do from what you wrote last week:
I am more of a non-pro guy who likes to 'take the edge off' in the afternoon with a P4P gal before the big date.
Hey Q Bert, I'm just messing with you and I'm glad you enjoyed Cali but really now, how about you actually sit down and finally write a trip report. You can start with Cali. Come on now Q Bert, you have received lots of info, now it's time to give back.
Cheers,
Cubanut
BTW- Since you guys liked Madam Chica #1, here's another shot of her.
Nice chica.. I didn't care much for #2 or #3 but #1 is a Winner :-)
Who needs pros Q Bert? Apparently YOU do from what you wrote last week:
Hey Q Bert, I'm just messing with you and I'm glad you enjoyed Cali but really now, how about you actually sit down and finally write a trip report. You can start with Cali. Come on now Q Bert, you have received lots of info, now it's time to give back.
Cheers,
Cubanut
BTW- Since you guys liked Madam Chica #1, here's another shot of her.
Your buddy's girlfriend . . . is she in the p4p business or a regular girl? Sounds like your "make your own Madam" is worth trying again . . . & again. I am just wondering how much chica #1 is at her regular p4p spot?
When will you be back in Medellin? I sent you and Ricker PMs but have not heard back :(
BTW- Since you guys liked Madam Chica #1, here's another shot of her.
Cuba; this is First Class. Beautiful girl you have.
Balluba
.......BTW- Since you guys liked Madam Chica #1, here's another shot of her.
Please, please, please tell me that at least you remembered where she worked!! :-0
Suerte!
Polvo
... BTW-Gents, whenever possible in Cali, call for a taxi for your girl/female friend instead of hailing one down. The company will give you a three digit number and the taxi will arrive and repeat the number. Just a safety tip because it seems that the chicas are more of a target that foriegners these days in Cali.
Nice report Cuba ... nice fotos too as usual. Like all the other guys, I give foto 1 the top nod.
My new girlfriend just got robbed in Cali also.
A few punks roughed up and robbed her and her sister walking back from a store near their casa.
A shame really, but it amazes me how fast these chicas bounce back.
I can imagine any gringa friend of mine would be traumatized for months over an incident like that.
See ya around amigo :)
MiamiHeatLuver
06-25-07, 17:59
Nice report Cuba ... nice fotos too as usual. Like all the other guys, I give foto 1 the top nod.
My new girlfriend just got robbed in Cali also.
A few punks roughed up and robbed her and her sister walking back from a store near their casa.
A shame really, but it amazes me how fast these chicas bounce back.
I can imagine any gringa friend of mine would be traumatized for months over an incident like that.
See ya around amigo :)
And dont forget my Novia getting jumped for her cell phone in a very nice area in CALI "El Penon" When she was younger, she got robbed my 2 dudes with a Machete, TODAY if she has to go out she goes with my cunado or family member and will leave her wallet and Cell Phone at home OR transfer her SIM to the cheap NOKIA. DO NOT KEEP YOU GUARD DOWN IN CALI! EVER!
Novia Held Up In Cali For Cell Phone!
Hello all, After going to Cali every six weeks for the past year and a half a bit of violence finally hit home,, after a nice fun filled day with the NOVIA in el centro, on the way home in the taxi we stopped at my apartamento and she gets out to open the door and puts the key in the door to open it, i tell the cab driver to drive on, because i was on my way for a 7pm massage apointment, I get a call two minutes later from her brother panicking on is cell phone that my baby was held-up two minutes ago in front of the apratment by 3 men and one woman on dirt bikes, who strongheld her and physically removed her cell phone, told her to be quiet OR ELSE and then sped-off and left her physically and emotionally in distress, I get home to find her crumbled-up on the kitchen floor in shock and unstopable crying, i try to console her to no avail, telling her that thank-god she is alive and not hurt or dead and that the superficial products can be easily replaced, and thank-god that that they didnt go into the apartment and rob the place WITH ALL MY STUFF including laptop and ipod, etc etc, why didnt they go in? because this was a random act and they didnt know whom or what was waiting for them inside, my CUNADO told me that this was a random normal day in CALI and just another statistic, which i sorrily agree to, but this really hit close to home and opened my eyes even more, to see this once proud, beautiful, strong CALENA, reduced to a mere statistic!
BeersTerry
06-27-07, 00:14
Just back,
Cali was fun.
Lots of day time casas. For Cubanut, Bru, the 'madame' at one of the daytime casas kept asking about you. Question for Cubanut: What did you do to make the madame like you so much ?
To me, the quality was much better than the at night for the price. Night time could be expensive so I did prepagos.
Girls are pretty friendly. English still turns heads.
Have a picture to compare to Ricker's calena.
who needs pros q bert? apparently you do from what you wrote last week:
hey q bert, i'm just messing with you and i'm glad you enjoyed cali but really now, how about you actually sit down and finally write a trip report. you can start with cali. come on now q bert, you have received lots of info, now it's time to give back.
cheers,
cubanut
btw- since you guys liked madam chica #1, here's another shot of her.
damn cubnut, you make it awfully hard to contradict yourself! haha.
when i say "who needs pros?" it's a figure of speech. hell, we all need pros sometimes. i was just noting how easy it is to pick up girls in cali.
and you're right, i need to sit down and write a report. heck i was in buca, armenia, pereira, cali, medellin, and bogota the last two weeks! i have just been so busy with my move to medellin. nothing is easy in colombia in regards to changing apartments, moving, etc.
i have been answering a lot of emails if that counts for anything!
So post it. What's the point of writing that if you aren't posting it?
Just back,
Have a picture to compare to Ricker's calena.
NOTHING is easy in Colombia in regards to changing apartments, moving, etc.
The ONLY thing that is easy in Colombia is getting laid. Everything else is very difficult. It took 4 months to get gas service to my apartment in Medellin. Then there are the banks, DAS, DIAN, MRE, Aduana,...
BeersTerry
06-27-07, 23:10
Night time fun was hard after looking all day as things are a little spread out in Cali. I called a girl who's number that my friend gave me.
Outstanding body. Tall, thin and hard. The picture does'nt do her justice. I broke my cherry with her. My cola cherry.
...... I broke my cherry with her. My cola cherry.
Did she use a strap on?? :-)
Polvo
Did she use a strap on?? :-)
PolvoLOL
What I can say?
LOL
In Cali there will be an Election and they close the bars and prevent the sale of liquor for Friday, Saturday and Sunday - July 6 - 8. I have confirmed this with several people including an owner of a bar, and managers of 2 hotels in Cali. I have since changed my itinerrary but wanted to give a heads!
Well everyone a quick introduction. I've mongered for close to 10 years now which includes Costa Rica, a tad bit of Panama, a bit of tj (bleh), and mainly Cali.
I've stumbled to Cali sort of by accident. My main reason was not for mongering. When I travelled there in the past, my journies would last from 6 weeks until DAS wanted me to go. I've probably lived a total of 2+ years there. I've lived everywhere in Cali, from the north, to the south (much more fun imo) and to the most dangereous areas like agua blancos (marrioquin)
I ve had as many as three girlfriend at once. One was a model and a television host, another was dating a proffesional soccer player, and the other was a nice cute normal vixen. The latter two lived in the gym. The hard part is not so much getting them, but managing them. Imagine dealing with three stalkers who called your cell by the hour. Now those are problems.
I've read the reports and wanted to clear a few things. Cali is not that great for shorter trips like a week or so. It does offer a unique taste however to the experienced mongers and a nice change of pace.
You will get a nice taste to feel a bit like brad pitt. Imagine hot girls giving you flirtatious looks or they stuttering in your presence in some cases. The food is pretty cheap and quite good if you know where to go.
The problem with shorter trips is that it is a hit or miss as far as mongering goes. The higher end casas do have some cuties but some of the times they can be hard to find. The middle and cheaper places is truly a diamond in the rough. Many times you will be spending more times in taxis than casas since there might be one really cute girl out of the several. They are there but you just have to find them.
Like I said food is cheap, and so are basic entertainments like going to see the movies and the likes. (I don't go to chipechape, leave that for the newbies). Not much to do for shorter trips in comparison to other trips. Also stay in the north for shorter visits. North is set up more for tourists and you will find better and more mongering spots.
For longer term stay. Like a few weeks or more, that is where Cali gets its value. Mainly because you can utilize your gringo pass and pick a nonpro or two. The non pros and the people are where its at. Also, you get to spend more time on the better half of Cali which is the south. Palmetto and gardin plaza are two cool shopping centers to chill.
You will slowly start to embrance the colombian culture by being dancing some salsa, going to the 18 which is a big hill where you can chill in a very cool climate while sipping on some agua pinella con queso which comes nice and hot.
You will meet some interesting calenos who can accomodate you to san andrecito in centro where you can buy ps2 games for $2 a pop (once you get it chipped).
The non pro action blows away the pro action and you can only get the fruit of its ripings with longer term stay.
Spanish is a must unless you have reliable helpers to guide you around. Otherwise don't bother coming. Air conditioners will be your best friends unless you like to sweat during sleep. Its not that hot but not quite comfortable to get a nice sleep.
Nothing has ever happenned to me but everyone I met has been robbed twice in the past couple of years. It is not safe but not that dangereous as well. Use basic common sense at all times.
Yes, many colombian women like you for your coin but many of them find americans intriguing as well. Its better to be on the safe side and just have the mentality that many are after you as a wayout. Its better to have this mentality than to open arms blindly. Its like anywhere else, once someone knows you are easy and vulnerable, they will take advantage.
Great places to meet non pros are in shopping centers and gyms. You don't need to have great game. Just dress nice (not expensive), be clean and well groomed, and be pleasant. You can even do the business card trick if you are shy or just want a handful of easy numbers in an hour of hotties.
Lemme know if you want other basic info.
PS. I was thinking of semiretiring here but I think Bogota will be much better for that. Anyone want to compare the two cities? Never been to bogs myself.
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Having visited Cali more than a dozen times in the past 5 years, I completely agree with your assessment.
I would like to hear more about your time in Agua Blanca. The only person that was brave enough to take me there was Antifreeze, but that was only for a few hours. I really didn't get a feel for the place. Everyone else (Colombians) I've asked has said they have/would/will never go there. Is it really that dangerous and are there attractive/friendly women there? How do they react to gringo there?
I've only been to Bogota briefly so I can't help much in comparing it to Cali. I would say the people I've met from Bogota in the US are very different from those from Cali and Medellin. They are less outgoing and less friendly, but they seem like good people when you get to know them. The climate would be a problem for me long-term. A few chilly days are nice, but it almost never makes it past 70 degrees with many cloudy/rainy days.
Hey all,
I just spent a fabulous ten days in Cali. What a great city!
I went there on vacation with one of the groups that sets up social events between American guys and Colombian women. Of course, they're all looking to find a nice guy and settle down, but they're so beautiful and so cool. I honestly cannot imagine spending any time with professionals.
That being said, the first night I did stop at Club Escoses, just a block down from the Hotel Intercontinental. Hard to find. Same side of the street, with a white facade. The sign is there, but not lit up. The staff in the hotel knew what I meant, but the Federales I asked were clueless. There, I hung with a beautiful nubian who came back to my hotel for a full night. Beautiful ladies, but a very small club.
At the hotel, you have to register any lady-friends at the front desk and pay 25, 000 Pesos (about $13US). This is partly to make money for the hotel, but also partly for your safety. The ladies have to show I. The. To get in.
After that first night, though, I had more ladies than I had time for. In a week and a half, I only spent one night alone (and that by choice. Needed some sleep for a busy, next day). I found one fantastic 22 year-old with whom I spent five days and four nights. Great. What a cool woman. She showed me around town, we laughed, danced, partied, etc. She even scored some "mota. " Of course I paid for dinners, hotels, cover charges, etc. , but I was OK with that. She was a student.
The women in Cali are the most beautiful I've seen (in my 20 countries), and so cool!
Regarding safety, I had NO problems whatsoever, nor did any of the 30+ guys I was with. No muggings, no ATM-drives, no weapons, etc. There are a lot of Federales on the streets, and I think that helps a lot.
I'm definitely going back!
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Bodyguard44
07-13-07, 11:25
This girl I fucked many many times.
She suck deeptroath until you cum.
She drinks it all.
She love to lick ass and pussy loves bigones and and she like to talke dirty when you do her doggystyle.
I really think that she is the greatest in town. But, there is always a but, she also told me that she had a girlfriend but she lose the number. Her girlfriend love to fuck guys with a strapon. And I like that very much. So help me out her amigos. I am lookink for ibaana or sandra in Cali.
The girl from the picture named mona, and is 27years old.
She told me that she loves it when 2 guys doing her. So be my guest.
She works only one month in the same club, but when you ask around, you find her easy.
having visited cali more than a dozen times in the past 5 years, i completely agree with your assessment.
i would like to hear more about your time in agua blanca. the only person that was brave enough to take me there was antifreeze, but that was only for a few hours. i really didn't get a feel for the place. everyone else (colombians) i've asked has said they have/would/will never go there. is it really that dangerous and are there attractive/friendly women there? how do they react to gringo there?
i've only been to bogota briefly so i can't help much in comparing it to cali. i would say the people i've met from bogota in the us are very different from those from cali and medellin. they are less outgoing and less friendly, but they seem like good people when you get to know them. the climate would be a problem for me long-term. a few chilly days are nice, but it almost never makes it past 70 degrees with many cloudy/rainy days.kdog,
agua blanca is pretty dangereous but in some of the better areas it is not too bad. if you go there with another colombian (especially one that knows that area well) during day light and you dress down, there shouldn't be much problems. you can pass by but i wouldn't want to hang around for long.
i stayed with in-laws so i was introduced to quite a few peeps there and was already established. they lived right on the corner on the main road and very close to police which helps too.
i found some gems in the gym there. girls had nice bodies and were strong (lifting on average of 500lbs on leg press for reps). i was going to date one but having other girls already to work with was plenty of for me.
i personally wouldn't make the trip down there as you are not missing out much on anything. you will find more black girls and still there are plenty of morenas. the girls are more agressive and a bit easier to get than say chicas in the north, but still not worth going imo. i did however witnessed mouth wide open-i've met the man of my dreams a few times.
as far as bogota is concerned, i've heard the same message as well in terms of the people. this is a small concern from me (not a biggie though) because i do appreciate the openess from the calenos. i'm hoping that having more hot girls will balance that out.
from the reports i've read the pro activity beats cali hands down and there is much more to do as well.
i don't mind for cloudy days but i'm not a huge fan of chilly weather. i'm hoping that the cool weather will beat cali's hot weather especially when it comes to bedtime.
i'll post more on cali once i can get access to a computer as its tough posting from my cell phone.
Interesting pic. Are you GatorL7 at friendfinder.com
This is no Calena
This girl I fucked many many times.
She suck deeptroath until you cum.
She drinks it all.
She love to lick ass and pussy loves bigones and and she like to talke dirty when you do her doggystyle.
I really think that she is the greatest in town. But, there is always a but, she also told me that she had a girlfriend but she lose the number. Her girlfriend love to fuck guys with a strapon. And I like that very much. So help me out her amigos. I am lookink for ibaana or sandra in Cali.
The girl from the picture named mona, and is 27years old.
She told me that she loves it when 2 guys doing her. So be my guest.
She works only one month in the same club, but when you ask around, you find her easy.
Jesi James
07-20-07, 04:11
Regarding safety, I had NO problems whatsoever, nor did any of the 30+ guys I was with.
Glad to see that 30 guys out on the town didn't have a problem. Is it only me that wonders?
suerte
jes
Well I am in Cali and so far I like what I see. First of all, I love the warm weather. After being in Buenos Aires and Quito back to back the heat is a welcome change. I almost passed out when I hit the airport and saw the girls waiting in the terminal. I don't know what the guys on the forum are looking for who said that there are a bunch of dogs here but I saw hotties in every direction. Titties and ass are busting out all over in Cali and if you are into mulatas this THE PLACE. I popped about 4 boners in the Unicentro mall today while shopping for a belt and a pair of jeans. I was staying in the ridiculously overpriced Radisson for a couple of days because I arrived on a night flight and my paranoia got the best of me. Please guys, don't make the same mistake that I made and stay here. The Radisson Cali sucks and it is nowhere near being worth the money that they charge. The first day that I arrived the bellman was helping me with my bags. My suitcase is really heavy and as he tried to place it on the foldable luggage rack in the room the wooden rack disentegrated before our very eyes and the bag fell to the floor. The two of us had a laughing attack after looking at the rack in splinters. Then the nexy day the maid wanted to clean my room AT 8:30 AM! And seemed irritated when I told her to come back later. When she came in the room I had the latch on the door locked. As she opened the door the wood framing strip that the latch was attached to ripped off of the wall and she walked right in no problem. I stumbled to the door and was met with more splintered wood at my feet. Now I'm worried that if I brought a wild chica in here that the both of us might wind up falling through the floor of this joint and fucking downstairs in the lobby. Keep in mind that this place is charging $160 per night. Then, the last straw, tonight while I was relaxing in my room this guy walks right in with his bags and is getting ready to share the place with me. They had given him a key down at the reception thinking that the room was empty. If I hadn't been here he could have walked off with half of my stuff and I wouldn't have known what the fuck happened. GIVE THE RADISSON Cali A PASS IT SUCKS!
Today while I was looking for a new hotel I struck up a conversation with my cabbie (about the fine-ass chicas in Cali of course) and it didn't take him long to mention that one of the best casas was very close. It was funny because I mentioned chicas and then 2 minutes later we were parked in front of the casa which was located on the same street that we were driving on. I don't know if this was a coincidence or if there are just a million casas in Cali but at first I was worried because the building was so non-descript. There was no sign or anything just a large white building with a large wooden door. I was looking around trying to identify landmarks so that I could cut the cabbie out of the equation next time so I forced myself to remember that the Hotel Toscana Plaza was across the street. From the address of the hotel and info from a lists of casas on another site I have deduced that this might have been Cupid's Club. They are renovating the interior now so I was even a little more apprehensive until I saw the chicas. I saw 6 chicas but I was told that 15 were available. Out of six one was a a complete dog, two were doable and three were BLAZING. When I saw Karen I was ready to make my move. I had a sit down with her and discussed my needs which included a BBBJ. Unfortunately she wasn't having it and she gave me a song and dance about house rules etc. Up in the room she changed her story and told me that the extras were only for repeat customers so we will see how all of this pans out in the future. I haven't had a covered BJ in about a year so it took some getting used to at first but in the end I was grateful because her BJ was just a tad bit teethy and the extra layer of latex provided just the amount of protection that I needed from those 20 year old latin choppers. On the positive side she provides a lot of suction and Colombian condoms are twice as thin as Ecuadorian condoms and probably 10 times as thin as Argentine condoms so everything turned out fine. Her body was saying, "I'm TWENTY. I'm TWENTY. I'm TWENTY". Her titties were so perky and firm that my dick stayed hard for almost the entire session. I went down for a taste and then we started in doggie, then missionary, then back to doggie again for the first finish. Then good conversation and back to some oral adventures then a hardcore pounding in doggie for the finish. She gave me her number for delivery before work and is offering a discounted price so we will see how that works out. So far, so good. The quality of the fuck so far is not at the same level as what I am used to but in all honesty for the age and the beauty of the girl the level of P4P in Buenos Aires has been surpased. I guess this just proves that every mongering hole has its positives and negatives. So as the scale pans out so far we have: good protected sex with your local coco Miss Universe (Cali). Vs risky porno sex with your local Paraguayan freakazoid (Buenos Aires). Something for everyone.
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Blacksaber
07-20-07, 07:45
Next Friday I have a 10 hour stop in Cali on my way Cartagena. As this is my first visit to Cali, I am looking to maximize my enjoyment there as I will arrive after 10pm. What I plan to do is grab a taxi at the airport, find a hotel and then head out on the hunt. Any recommendation on cheap but safe hotel as well as where to find the local talent? I’m cheap and don’t believe in paying a lot for anything but expect top quality.
Dodger Bulldog
07-20-07, 14:55
Nice report, Big Bob!
I am scoping out Cali so I will be following your trip with great interest.
May I make a suggestion that I learned after filing many reports here? It's not a criticism, just an idea to help spread your information farther.
It is a good idea to break down your paragraphs into smaller chunks.
When a lot of guys see such a big, continuous block of words they don't have the patience to read that much, so they just pass by.
To make it easy on the eyes, start a new paragraph after every couple sentences. Many more readers will hang in there and gain from your insights. Kind of like I've set it up here.
People will often read one sentence at a time and think to themselves "Well, I guess I can read one more."
Keep up the good work. It is nice to have you on board!
DB
UrbanWildlife
07-20-07, 16:22
Very nice post Big Bob, and I am looking forward to reading many more, and hopefully you will share some pics along the way! :)
Blacksaber wrote he needs guidance on what to do during a 10-hour layover in Cali ... me too!
1. how long ( & cost of ) is a taxi ride from airport to the action?
2. best places to go from say, 11 pm till around 3 am to hunt for poontang?
(remember, just one night there, so it has to be P4P)
3. Unlike Blacksaber, I am not too concerned about budget - I hear Cali
chicks are the hottest and I want the HOTTEST!
Gracias!
It's about a 30 minute ride from the airport to the mongering areas of Cali and it will cost you around 40 Mil ($20) in taxi. If you want to save a few Mil, there should be a bus that will go as soon as it fills-up (it doesn't take long) outside baggage claim and then you would just take a taxi from the main bus terminal in Cali to your hotel of choice. This will total around 10 Mil (bus plus taxi). Having said that, it's probably not worth wasting 15-30 minutes on this transportation mode to save 30 Mil especially if you are only there for 10 hours. I usually do it for the experience (meeting chicas on the bus) as opposed to saving money.
I would not get a regular hotel for a 10 hour layover. You can find some very nice pay-by-the-hour hotels where you can bring a woman to the room for no extra charge (unlike many of the regular hotels). Kiss Me hotel is one I remember by name. I don't recall the exact price, but around 30 Mil ($15) for a couple hours seems about right. A decent "regular" hotel will be at least 100 Mil plus girl fee and won't be as nice.
Great tips Kdog, thanks. We were gonna try to stay up all night until our flight the next morning. But I think we'll check out these "love motels"
However: DOes anyone have any tips on which places to go to for a sure thing to find the HOT Cali P4P chicks? Like really hot chicks. Price isn't the main issue. Not a strip club necessarily, but a place for take-out would be nice
Gracias,
Straddler
There are few casas open at night in Cali. You're best best at night for hot P4P women are the major strip clubs: Flores Frescas (near Sheraton Hotel and very expensive), Escoces (near Intercontinental Hotel and better priced), Phareon (Near Hotel Torres and cheap). You can ask a taxi driver to take you to some casas, but there are relatively few choices at night and you might not want to waste the 1-2 hours hunting if you only have a few hours. Note, things shut-down in Cali around 2am and when they do, there will be almost nothings available. Street walkers on Avenida Sexta can be a last resort if this happens. Enojoy your visit and give us a report on what you find.
I have passed this place a bunch of times during the day and it appears to be open but there is never anyone there. It is listed in the Cali lists section as a casa but it just looks like a regular bar/restaurant. Does anyone have any info on this place? Busiest nights? What is the setup here?
Does anyone have any info on this bar/restaurant located on Avenida 8. It is posted in the Cali lists as a casa but it doesn't appear to be one. Are there P4P girls there and action on site? I have passed it during the day and it is always pretty dead. Is there a lot of action there at night?
Does anyone have any info on this bar/restaurant located on Avenida 8. It is posted in the Cali lists as a casa but it doesn't appear to be one. Are there P4P girls there and action on site? I have passed it during the day and it is always pretty dead. Is there a lot of action there at night?I think is a regular bar-restaurant. Not the casa we are looking for LOL.
Kukulkan
i moved from the horrible radisson cali about 5 days ago and i have had no regrets. as chronicled in my previous report i had numerous bad experiences there and i am sure that they are only in business because cali doesn't receive a lot of foriegn tourist traffic and as a result many hotels do not have websites and are not affiliated with popular travel and tourism referral sites. honestly, before i came to cali, when i was looking for a hotel i got the impression that my only options would be the hotel dann, the intercontinental, the radisson, and the hotel torre de cali. all of these place are expensive and i had to really do some research on this site and others in order to find other options. i decided that i was going to spend some time here so i focused on suite/aparthotel situations. i looked at the cali plaza, terrazas granada, aparthotel del rio, and the plaza real. they were all kind of in the same price range (expensive but not too expensive) and offfered different plusses an minuses.
i ultimately decided to stay at the cora aparthotel. i really like the ambience of this place and love the location. it is near the juan valdez cafe on the corner of 9th avenue and calle 17. i am two blocks away from avenida sexta and about 7-8 blocks away from the most popular casas in the north (by the hotel del rio) and about 8-10 blocks away from club escoces (by the intercontinental). the place is really clean and safe with a 24 hour doorman, a/see, cable, wireless internet, free continental breakfast, and hot water. i'm paying the monthly rate of $1275 which is high but it's actually the cheapest gringo price that i could find. i looked at some apartments which were much cheaper but in a few cases i had my doubts about the colombian owners and what would happen if there was some kind of problem (would they fix things, would services like utilities etc. be dependable and reliable, could the owners be trusted). also most of the places did not have everything on my wish list (one of the most important wishes being hot running water) and i was being promised that these amenities would be added especially for my stay (yeah right! ). i even ran into an expat gringo here who was a trying to rent his ramshackle place which had serious security issues to me at a 400% mark up (he didn't know that i found out what he was paying for rent in advance). i figured that if i was going to get fucked i would rather get fucked by a local organization that was stable with local connections than by a totally unknown owner who could vanish at any moment. today i decided to visit the casas by the hotel del rio. i have been seeing a couple of girls from casas in the south at my place and as a result have not tried a bunch of different places. the service from karen and paola is excellent (and an added plus of the cora is that there is no chica fee for one chica at a time) but i have to pay their cab fair back to the casas which adds up. as a result i am now in search of an "around the way girl". i set out in search of the casas today at about 1 pm. i had no problem finding the clinica del amor but the other one (which is listed as being near the torre de cali) eluded me. actually part of the problem is that i forgot the entire address and was hoping to just luck up on it but i had no such luck. i doubled back to the clinica del amor and as i was entering a group of three colombians were going in at the same time. from the outside the place doesn't look all that inviting so i had my doubts. also adding to my doubts was that a block away in a gas station parking lot i saw 5 guys passing around a vile of coke and snarffing down hits of it with a door key in broad daylight.
the guard patted us down and we entered a large white lobby area with about 5 guys inside sitting on couches rep001tered throughout the room. the three guys who enetered with me went to take seats on two couches which were set on an elevated riser near the back of the room. i wanted to give them their space so i sat on a couch opposite them near where the other men were sitting. this turned out to be a grave mistake because immediately afterwards we were rapidly greeted by about 30 chicas half of which totally ignored me because the guys that i was sitting next to were employees and not customers. i was also at a disadvantage because the chicas greeted these guys first and the madame of the house took their selection first (obviously because they were sitting in the right place and i wasn't). it was a newbie mistake that i made that i am hoping that the rest of you can avoid although it is probably not even an issue if you enter alone. i have been to casas with a similar setup in mexico and argentina but i will say that the difference here is that there are many more girls in the selection and that they greet you really quickly and you really need to be focused on the selection process as the names and body parts are flying by so fast that it can make you dizzy. my one saving grace was that i had experienced this situation before and i knew that i had to pick at least 3 girls because these other guys might have had the same girl in mind. they had a little bit of everything there, white blonde chicas, mulatas, indigenous girls, huge natural racks, huge fake racks, the girl next door, bionic super sluts with collagen lip injections and cheek and ass implants. habia de todo! and that actually makes the selection process difficult.
my first pick, sure enough, was chosen by one of the colombians so the madam informed me that i could session with jennifer my second choice. she also explained that there is a two-tiered price structure for the girls. they are wearing different colored wrist bands and i think the ones with orange bands are vip girls and cost more. i am not sure about the color because she told me this after i saw the girls and they flew by so quickly that i didn't even notice that they were wearing these wrist bands. also both of the girls that i had chosen were of the bargain basement variety apparently and there was no additional charge for my picks. also you can upgrade the room to a larger more comfortable room with a stereo system or for 50000 pesos you can go all out and get the jacuzzi room with the girl of your choice. i would be tempted to try that option if i found a great provider here but seeing as it was my first session with a new chica i figured that the jacuzzi could just provide an exuse for the chica to loaf on the job so i decided to pass on it. they sent me to a room in the back where you have an opportunity to interview the chica before agreeing to the session. we shot the shit for a minute because i wanted to try to get a sense of this girls vibe. she seemed nice enough but after a minute she steered the conversation back to business. i told her that i was looking for a bbbj and she said fine for a tip. i agreed to tip but we didn't settle on a fixed amount and up we went to the room.
the majorty of the rooms are upstairs and they have plenty of them. jennifer said that there are over 20 rooms in the place although it does not appear to be that large from the outside. the room was pretty big and seemed to be clean with a comfortable king size bed and a shower. she suggested that we take a shower and i agreed but provided that we would shower together. she seemed to agree but once we got to the shower area she said that it was too small for the both of us (which was a crock) but at least i could keep an eye on her and i know that she wasn't rifling through my pants. when i saw jennifer in the back room i realized why she was my second choice. although she seemed to have a great body and a decent personality she had bad skin and was trying to cover the acne on her cheeks with way too much foundation. it wasn't enough to put me off of poking her though and i agreed to the session. when she started undressing for the shower i started to have a little bit of buyers remorse because once she removed her top her tits lost their perkiness and sagged down to their "actual position" and they were joined in their voyage southward by a rolling-polly, wrinkled "pudding belly". she clearly was a mom and had stretch marks not only in her belly but in her breasts as well. i wasn't disgusted, just a little dissapointed when i was thinking about all that other hot assed trim in the lobby going to waste. she said that she was 24 and i might believe it because the rest of her body was pretty toned but she has a 7 year old daughter. i went to take a shower and of course, in true cali fashion, the place has no hot water. the water was ice cold and i let out a yelp as it made contact with my body but i have to admit that after walking around lost in the afternoon heat i needed it.
we moved to the bed and she told me to lay back so that she could give me my bbbj. i tried to caress her breasts and she insisted that i lay back so that she could get to work. i knew at this point that i was in for a mechanical session and not a gfe. in my experience when a girl is determined to control the session and get right to work like that it means that she has no intention of really connecting with the client and she just has a routine that gets people off. i knew then that there would be no kissing and no real sensuality or emotion so i decided to try to make the best of it with a positive mental attitude. at least the session was only going to set me back 20 bucks. she started to blow me and i have to admit that there just is no substitute for a bbbj. so far everything that i have been getting here has been covered so it was a real pleasure to feel that soft, moist tongue on my cock. after a while i told her to lick my balls and i sat back and relaxed as her tongue flicked across my sensitive wrinkled sack. once i was hard she asked if she could put the condom on and i told her, "no, keep sucking! " and she went back to work. i told her that i was ready for sex and we got in the missionary position. she then commanded me to lay flat on her stomach while i fucked her. this chick was starting to bother me because she is a little too fucking bossy! really i think that she wanted to limit the depth of my thrusts by keeping me in this position. i started to pound her as hard as i could from this position and i started to get really turned on. actually, i almost came like a little "premie" ***** and i had to tell myself, "whoa there partner. you better gear it down a notch if you want to get any value out of this snatch. " i slowed down my thrusts and got control of myself for a minute. at that point i decided that i had had enough of this "tummy fucking" and i grabbed her legs put her heels on my shoulders and went to town on her ass "big bob 7 style". the combination of seeing her legs dangling over my shoulders like a rag doll in the mirror in front of me and the sound of her moaning and the thud of our bodies slapping together pushed me over the brink and i let out a scream and buried my cock deep into her snatch while my cum spurted out between us. she asked me if i liked it and i told her "si" while she was pulling of the jizz filled rubber and wiping my cock with a tissue. when she placed the roll of toilet paper back on the table by the bed i noticed that it had her name scrawled across the top of the roll in black magic marker. i asked why. she said, "cuando no hay suficiente las chicas me lo roban. " i suddenly had an image of 2 chicas involved in a catfight, scratching each others faces and pulling each other hair with a roll of toilet paper with one of their names on it being tugged back and forth between there bulging, jiggling titties.
jennifer rolled over and requested that i rub her back. i agreed and at first i was into since i was relaxed now and she had a nice ass but then she started dictating where and how i should rub her. this chick is really fucking annoying and bossy. finally, i rolled her over and let her know that i was ready for more action. she said, "no, rub my back for 5 more minutes. " i told her i wanted her too badly and couldn't wait (which was actually a lie but it sounds better than, "get to work *****. ") so we went for round two. now she doesn't want to give a bbbj again so she put a condom on and started sucking. then before my cock was hard she rolled over into the doggie-style position and tries to put my soft dick in her pussy. i tell her to suck it more but she refuses now because it has her pussy juice on it. i tell her that we agreed on a bbbj so she reluctantly removed the condom and started sucking. then she realizes that she doesn't have any more comdoms and asks me if i have any. i don't and she calls for another condom. she starts giving the bbbj but whenever a drop of semen leaks out of my cock she stops blowing and wipes my cock of with a towel which is really fucking annoying and disprupts the flow. with my cock at about 3/4 mast she puts the newly delivered condom on and i mount her in missionary. her pussy is as dry as the sahara and starts pulling the condom off of my cock so she keeps stopping me to adjust it. this whole affair has just become a complete pain in the ass so i grab one of her legs, hoist it in the air so that i can get a deep penetration, and pound her as fast and as hard as i can until i bust. at that point i really just wanted to get it over with.
as i was laying next to her a wave of resentment started to pass over me because of the way that she handled the session. i consciously changed my mindset from a negative one to a positive one because i realized that i wanted to return to this place and test drive some other chicas. there is a lot of talent there and i don't know how much the girls talk to each other. i decided to treat this girl with class even though i will never fuck her again in this life or the next one. i gave her a light kiss on the shoulder and told her how beautiful she is and how grateful i was for her time but i had to leave then and i started to dress. she told me to wait for her while she took a shower. she asked me if i thought that her tits here droopy and i said, "of course they aren't they are perfect". she asked me when i would be coming back and i said who knows maybe tommorrow. she let me know that she was going to be working tommorrow too. oh joy! well we ended with a kiss and on a good note and strangely enough i felt satisfied as i walked out into the sweltering afternoon heat. i will definately be giving this place a second chance by i think that i will check out its neighbor first. if i can remember the correct address.
p.s. does anyone have any info on sexta streetgirls? i had dinner at cathay, a chinese restaurant around the corner from my hotel and this really young street hooker passed by who was gorgeous. she was shaking her ass in my direction as bait and the bait was working. the only thing that stopped me from pulling her were reports that i read about guys being drugged and robbed here by chicas with knockout drugs smeared on their bodies. i was also worried that she may have been ****. what is the risk level really like? am i being paranoid?
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Too bad Big Bob,
Timing is also key when going to doctor amor. It sounds like you hit a bad time or a bad day....
I like to go in the early afternoon, because it is not as crowded and the girls are fresher and there are two shifts, so you get the best of the litter
I had three great sessions two weeks ago, with a spinner named tania, who gave me BBBJ every time, rimmed me, and gave me two pops on each session.
like anything else VMMV................................
I have been to Doctor Amor a few times and I would have to say I have had good sessions there. The women do tend to turnover there. I recommend this place because it is clean and well worth the price ( 38,000 ) pesos when I went there in early December. Has any one ever had a session with Judy?
Wanted to try her but I don't know when exactly I will be back and I have a girl friend in Cali that keeps me well occupied there. Judy is about 5 '6" white with a nice figure and big fake tits. When the girls are introduced she usually wears something see-thru.
Luis The Great
07-29-07, 03:27
Usually Dr. Amor is a definate good place to go. Service is usally better then most casas this is my favorite place. Also I have been told Girls like working there because of the cleanliness. Last year they changed owners and rearranged the pricing and added the Jazzusi option. Good move I believe. However once I had an awcuard experience. I once seen a person check in his gun. I know everyone gets padded down when they come in.However I guess you are asked to check in your baggage (jejejejej)
Check my report 9/05
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=384655#post384655
this is very insightful.
it's hard to get a gfe with a casa girl, their day consists of trying to get 20 minute quickies with the local clientele and furthermore, when you have to grab her like that out of the lineup, very quickly and away you go, that doesn't help establishing ground for a gfe situation.
it's one of the major things i hate about casas.
i tried to caress her breasts and she insisted that i lay back so that she could get to work. i knew at this point that i was in for a mechanical session and not a gfe. in my experience when a girl is determined to control the session and get right to work like that it means that she has no intention of really connecting with the client and she just has a routine that gets people off. i knew then that there would be no kissing and no real sensuality or emotion as to sexta streetwalkers: a very sizable percentage is ****. if she looks young/too young, she is.
what degree of risk? as to what? fucking a too young girl you shoudn't be fucking?
that's an ethical decision for yourself to dwell on. since that's a situation i'll never find myself in i can't comment on the risk as to potential legal ramifications.
as to getting drugged, it's happened and it happens, usually to people perceived as idiots/easy marks.
since you have facility with the spanish language, use it to your advantage to feel out any potential situation.
This afternoon I was lucky enough to be free around 4pm, and I decided to visit "La Clinica del Dr Amor" Ave 2N con 23.
I remember having visiting this place several months ago and they had very few available girls at that time.
This time was totally different, they were 14 guys waiting in the major room of the place and I was afraid that it would be like my first visit, but no, definitely no!
First they presented me almost 20 girls, then, as I asked to speak to one of them, I discovered a second and then a third room with guys and girls.
Second, I think that I saw almost 12 or 15 other girls that didn’t present themselves at the first time!
This is really huge! I mean, who else have 30 girls around 4:30 pm?
Quantity is one thing, quality another.
As I like the girls slim, I couldn’t fix my choice on more than 1 girl at the first presentation.
I asked to speak for a minute with her before deciding me and this is when I saw the second and third room.
While I was walking till the fird room with my first choice, I had a vision, a 10! An incredible girl, very fin, very skinny, with a wonderful little ass, small tits, nice face, . A doll!
But I had to speak with (forgot her name), after the normal greetings, I explained her that I hardly feel anything with a condom and asked her if she could do something for me.
She accepted to make a BBBJ but it was obvious that she had a problem with that. Than I asked her if I could make a DATY and she told me that she doesn’t like it. That was the end of it. I said no thanks and walked till the second room.
My 10 was then with a few gringos in the third room, at a moment, she came to the bar in the second room and I asked her if she was free, but no, she was still with the gringos. .
I was almost ready to go to another place when I almost suffered a stoke!
An incredible girl arrived from no where and gave a tour in the first room.
I was desperate and very anxious that someone would pick her before me!
But I was lucky and she came back in the second room but I was not able to speak with her.
I then asked the Mamasan for her and she told me her name was Tatiana.
She called her and we gathered in the third room.
After the preliminaries, I asked if she would do something bareback, she said yes I’ll give you a BBBJ, more than that? No, Anal? , No, DATY? Yes, glad.
I decided to take my chance with her; paid 55 for 60 minutes and we went upstairs. I choose a very luminous room with a window on a patio.
I couldn’t believe that such a girl exist. I have to admit she is my favourite doll, the best I’ve ever seen so far.
Small (5 feet; 1, 5 meters), a very thin belt, a very flat stomach, an enormous pair of (operated) tits, a nice face, a good conversation, . What a girl! I was really amazed.
She told me she is 28 but I gave her 24 or 25 maybe, she is warm, horny, my English is insufficient to explain how I was feeling.
We undressed and she told me that I had it too big.
I know that, and I know that it is the excuse for not having anal, but as she already told me that she would not make it, I said that I have a normal one, that I have seen a lot of naked guy (not stiff though) and that I know I’m normal.
She told me that she, for sure, had seen more than I ever will, and that, for her, I’m definitely in the bigger category, just before monstrous (she has seen 1 in her life, a black guy of course, with more than 12 inches, 30 cm according to her.).
Well, I have to say that I’m lost with that. Almost 90% of the girls tell me the same thing. I was really thinking that it was for not having anal, but once again that was clearly rejected from the beginning.
So before asking to everyone what size he has, let me explain, I have been many many times in naturist camps, when I was young, I practiced athletics and we all had a good shower after, I’ve been to the military service, I’ve seen an incredible number of porno movies, so I know, I’m normal.
What I’d like to know is if they say the same to everybody just to flatter our ego? Or is it that Colombian guys (99% of the customers) have it smaller, like some Asian say they do?
That’s an open question to the community. .
Now back to action.
After that, we went for a (very) quick icy shower.
Tatiana immediately took care of my best friend and I was having an incredible erection, almost painful.
We then dried and went directly to bed where she immediately start a very good BBBJ.
After 2 minutes, I entered in 69 and she just has a delicious pussy.
We remained that way probably 10 more minutes and I put her on her back and went for a very strong DATY. She reacts very well, moved a lot, moan even more, and after a while she reached a very strong climax (was it real? ) trying to escape from my tongue licking her clit as crazy.
She was very warm and horny and decided to go back on my best friend for a crazy BBBJ. As she was eally sucking hard, I took her second hand and put it at the entrance of my rear door. She asked me if I’d like her to do something, Well OF COURSE!
She took a condom and kept sucking while she entered gently in my ass.
Boys, I know some guys think that this is a gay practice, but not for me!
I just love girls and feel no attraction for guys, but this ass of mine likes to be visited by a thin finger while my best friend is very well blown.
Of course, I couldn’t resist long and I came very strongly putting my milk every where.
Tatiana was very proud of her performance and she kissed me every where telling me very kind words of affection.
After that we start to speak a little bit about our lives.
She was working as a dancer (no sex) in a night club in Dominican Republic, but, according to her, the new president ordered that every night club should be closed around 11pm. That was the end of her business.
She came back to Cali and work there, in the Dr Love’s clinic.
She is planning to go to Spain (Canary Island) in 2008 and will soon present her papers to ask for a visa.
She has a deer friend of Canada who is asking her to come there and to go back to school to get a degree, but she thinks that Canada is too cold (she can’t stand the Bogota’s weather.) and that she is too old to go back to school.
Poor girl, I have to admit that she is right; it would be very difficult for her especially because the Colombians ordinaries schools have a very low level of education. We then discussed a lot of other issues and suddenly the phone rang and it was time to go down.
So we went for a quick shower, but when I saw her so beautiful I don’t know what happened but I went stiff again. I was amazed as I usually need 2 hours before I can be hard again, but I had a very strong climax only 20 or 30 minutes before!
I was desperate, she was already dressed but my best friend didn’t want to stay in my shorts and I didn’t penetrate her before and I wanted to do it so strong. So I told her, come on let’s have an extra 30 minutes.
She phoned downstairs, they came to collect the 40K and we got naked again. She refused totally to let me enter without a condom, so I left her put it. I have to admit that she did it very well with her mouth.
I think that that is the first time someone cover me and I don’t feel the condom. So I entered for a 30 minutes fucky fucky exploring all the classical positions. I was just inexhaustible! If you consider that I’m close from 50, that I do no sport at all (except fucking) I am still amazed by what happened!
I think that even when I was in my 20’s I never had such an appetite, such energy. When the phone rang for the second time, I knew already that I wouldn’t be able to come covered. She left me rubbed my best friend on her lips, but I needed more than that.
So, once again we left the (good) bed and went for a quick shower, but I was still in the same embarrassment: impossible to get my best friend in my shorts.
But that time, I had to do it and forgot about the pain and start to walk in a very strange manner till, at last, I would return to a normal state.
I left you these (bad) pictures as a testimony of that amazing beauty.
If you look carefully to the 5th picture, you’ll see how I was (in a not very sexy clothing) before I decided to go to round 2.
Cheers
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years ago I visited cali and made friends with a taxi driver. He took me to some out of the way places. One of my favorite places I believe was on carretera 15.
There were a bunch of somewhat sleazy bars all grouped together. I couldn't figure it out at first. I never saw any customer leave with a girl and they all just seemed to be drinking and dancing with them.
When I walked in a very cute spinner's eyes lit up and she sat across from me making eye contact. After a few minutes a group of colombian guys came in and grabbed a booth and invited her to sit with them. She looked annoyed and even sad. She kept looking at me and smiling etc.
In the mean time my taxi driver called over her amiga, brenda. Brenda came and sat with us and my taxi driver asked her if she wanted to go out danicng later. She said sure. We made plans to head to Juancito after the bar closed.
As the bar closed and the lights came on, the spinner ran over and started talking to her amiga. her amiga excitedly said we were going dancing. the spinner, Angie looked bummed. I asked if she wanted to join us and she lit up. We all went out to juancito and danced till like 8 am. Angie was falling for me and we headed to a motel afterwards. I went to a room with angie and my taxi guy took brenda etc.
Later on when we were leaving I asked angie how much and she started crying. I was surprised and didn't bring it up again. Now years later having been to ficha bars in the states and other countries I know that for the most part locals go there to drink, dance and flirt and they aren't really p4p in the strictest sense. More of a case by case basis etc.
I seem to dig that atmosphere more than the lineup kiss on cheek pick one out deal with most casas in Cali. I had a blast for a few nights with angie and even kept in touch for a while.
Does anybody know where the heck I was? It was years ago. My spanish was not as good as it is now and I was unfamiliar with Cali. If I ever visit cali again, I'd love to stop back into these bars even for just old times sake.
I think they were on carretera 15 but could be wrong.
i finally found this place after making several circles of the block and attracting the attention of many locals who were probably tempted to leave their comfortable seats in restaurants and beauty shops in the area in order to tell me, "hey gringo, the pussy is over here! " it is a little bit hard to find because calle 23 splits up into 3 or 4 different streets around a plaza where there is a small park. there is a calle 23n, 23b. etc. and it is a real pain in the ass to find this place trying to follow calle 23 from avenida sexta. the easiest way to get here is to walk down avenida 2n coming from the aparahotel del rio which is located at the corner of avenida 2n and calle 21. you can use one of two landmarks to find this casa. if you have been to clinica del amor you would walk past clinica and make a left turn on the next street after clinica. on the corner there is a restaurant called the del rio. you would need to make your turn on that corner which is calle 23an. actually, there was one positive in trying to find this place via calle 23an. i found a citibank location and they have a higher withdrawal limit than the local banks. most locals banks here will only dispense 300, 000 cop at a time but citibank's limit was 600, 000 cop. this saved me having to pay two times the banks fees for the same withdrawal amount. there was no guard outside when i arrived so i entered not really knowing if i had the correct door.
i was in a small lobby/waiting area and saw another door to my left which was half closed. i took a peek in and saw about 12 guys seated on leather couches in another larger room. i told myself, "yup, this is definately the place. " as i entered i was approached by a fat, poofy, fag who asked me if i wanted something to drink. i said no and he told me to have a seat in what was actually the last place to sit available. all of the guys were sitting there looking at each other and waiting (and sweating. it was hot as hell in there. i began to regret not taking mister sweet p up on that drink offer.) none of the guys were talking to each other and i wondered what they were waiting for. the atmosphere was so different from the lobby at clinica because a lot of the guys here seemed nervous. the host/hostess returned and told me that soon the girls would be coming out.
i read in the cali lists that the hottest girls of all of the casas were to be found here. frankly, i would have to disagree but not for the reason that you might think. to be totally honest with you imho i have seen the hottest girls working in casas in cali that i have seen in similar places around the world. most lineups definately have their collection of dogs but the hotties included in most casa stables are so hot that you are amazed that these women are available for a $15-40usd fuck. in this respect i would have to say that the lineup here was average with respect to what i have seen so far in colombia. i saw 6 girls 2 of which were model quality, two highly doables (had the body but just an average face), and 2 losers (one had the face but not the body and the other had neither. she was clearly there to do all of the nasty shit that the other girls would refuse to do. i have to admit that if i were really jonesing for some cola i might have propositioned her because it has been next to impossible to get some ass here.) on a funny note the fat ugly girl actually left the joint right after the lineup. i guess that she knew that she wasn't going to be chosen and wanted to grab an empanada and some salchipapas in between rep002s, fisting sessions, and anal probings.
the winners for me were natalia, a light skinned mestizo spinner with nice real tits and lorena, a dark skinned mulata with the perfect little spinner body. these girls were hot! and i had a hard time deciding. the man/madame, who incidently was probably the only one in the joint willing to give up the cola, returned for my decision before i was really ready but i went on instinct and chose lorena. he sent her out to meet me and discuss our activities for the day. i must say that the setup of this casa is not for the shy monger. the couches are positioned really close together and the guys in the room are sitting quietly and not talking to each other. when a girl comes into the room all eyes and ears are on the two of you and your conversation. if you have a problem telling a strange girl that you want to dress her up in a cheerleeder outfit, pour maple syrup on her, and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in her mouth in a foreign tongue in front of an audience of a dozen nervous, horny, sweaty latinos this is probably not the place for you.
she came out and i started making small talk but the ambience of that lobby area was just a drag and she looked so good that i finally just came out and asked her what the pricing structure was and what she did for that price. right away she told me no cola. this was a good and bad sign. really, i have resigned myself to going without the cola so i wasn't so disapointed and the fact that she started her objections with the cola proved that she was open to other things. i asked about a bbbj and she said sure, no problem. that was all of the encouragement that i needed as i was already salivating over her hot bod and i agreed to an hour session with her. she disapeared into the back and i was told that a room was being prepared.
the room was not as bad as i expected. there was a small couch and a bed with two endtables. it was small and not immaculate but not filthy. as i entered the madame was spraying some air freshner to drown out the odors of the previous occupants. there was no bathroom in the room which made me glad that i had just showered before coming. lorena came into the room with a towel and some condoms. she seemed cheerful and talkative. we started to exchange the usual small talk and she told me that her real name was erica and she is originally from buenaventura. i was enjoying the conversation but was wondering how we were going to transition from this to the sex. she looked fantastic and i couldn't wait to rip her clothes off. suddenly, in the middle of our conversation she starts taking off her top and then started working on the bra.
i was rubbing her back and stopped her from undressing and started to undress her myself. i removed her top and her perky, brown, natural breasts jiggled free but remained firm and in place. i brushed my hand lightly across them and they were so warm and perfect that i began to wonder if she was legal. i asked her how old that she was and she replied, "21". good enough for me! onward and upward! or should i say inward. i gestured for her to stand up and i began to explore her body with my hands and mouth. i turned her around and started to kiss down her back and gently rub her firm perfectly shaped little brown ass. the color of her skin was medium brown with a reddish tint and was soft and blemish free. i turned her around and started to really go to work on her tits when she stopped me and told me, "i'm nursing. i have a 1 year old baby boy. " she was smiling as she grabbed an erect nipple and squeezed it hard between her thumb and index finger. "see! " she said as a thick, clear fluid oozed out of the nipple. i was a little bit shocked and started laughing in spite of myself. i then collected myself and went back to work covering every inch of her body that i could reach. every once in a while, when suckling her breast, i would feel the moisture in my mouth and taste the sweet taste of her milk. i never knew that human milk was so sweet. i looked up at her and saw nothing but relaxation and pleasure on her face.
i moved up for a kiss and there was no resistance. we started with lfk and then i moved down to her neck and down further to her breasts. when i came back to her sweet, young mouth the kisses became deeper and more exploratory. i decided to stand up with her so that i could hold her while we were kissing and as i stood i realized for the first time how small this girl really was. her body was so proportioned that i didn't notice at first but without her high heels on she was a full head and a half shorter than me. a true spinner! we moved to the bed and resumed where we left off. while my hands rubbed her ass and her back her tongue was moving from my mouth to my neck to my nipples and back again. then her lips lightly trailed southward down my stomach and to my erect cock which was so hard now that it seemed like it was going to lauch itself off of my body.
she gently leaned the shaft towards my body with one hand while moving her head lower so that she could gently lick my balls. i can't accurately describe with words the feeling of lying back and watching as this incredibly beautiful girl flicked her tongue across my scrotum while her perfectly shaped natural breasts rocked silently back and forth in the backdrop. then without direction and at the perfect time she moved the shaft towards her mouth and licked off the drop of precum which capped the tip. she then started to swallow the head of my cock quickly moving her head forward and backwards. her thrusts began to get deeper and deeper until she was taking 3/4 of my cock into her throat on every thrust. her titties started jiggling together as she snapped her neck back and forth without stop. the speed of her thrusts increased and i had to fight the temptation to grab her head and start skull fucking her. it was our first session and i didn't know how she would take it so i took deep breaths and relaxed into a state that you can only reach when you know for sure that the girl you are with knows how to suck cock and is not going to stop until your cum paints her tonsils.
i reached a plateau where waves of pleasure were spreading throughout my body with each deep breath that i took in the foreground of my conciousness while the image of her bent over on all fours like an animal sucking my cock was toiling away in the background. it reminded me of the oil drills that you see on road trips through texas and oklahoma bobbing silently up and down against the flat dry landcape on the horizon. while your mind is awash with memories from the past and dreams for the future the sound of the car slipping along the road is buzzing in your ears and that well keeps on drilling away in the distance and the driving of the car takes care of itself. who knows how long this went on but it seemed like a long time and she never stopped. this chick is a cock sucking demon! all of the sudden i wanted to fuck her and i told her this.
she must have wanted this too because before i even really knew what happened she had put a condom on me and jumped on top in cowgirl and started working that tight ass pussy of hers. she was popping her hips back and forth like she was in a jay-z video and i could feel her hard nipples scrapping across by chest. then she leaned way back towards my feet so that she could rub my cock at a different angle. i felt myself close to popping so i picked her up and rolled her over on her back and started pumping into her in missionary. her pussy was so wet now that i could hear the moisture with every thrust. i grabbed her legs and pushed her small little brown baby feet towards her head and rolled her up onto her shoulders and i let loose with everything that i had fucking her as hard and as fast as i possibly could. sweat started pouring down my chest and my groin was slapped loudly against her ass. i let her heels come to rest on my shoulders and continued pounding her while her titties bounced back and forth across her chest. i felt the end nearing and shrieked as i felt my groin spasming with 8-10 powerful spurts of cum. i kept pumping into her as the pleasure peaked then seemed to plateau and peak again and then slowly rolled away to nothing.
we cleaned up and talked. she told me that her mother was colombian and her father was italian and she was describing to me the dangers of living in buenaventura (drug dealers, paramilitares. etc.). suddenly she said that she wanted to clean herself off and made a move for the shower. i decided to join her. generally i never do this because i think that the idea of showering in a casa is really disgusting and also because casas in cali never have hot water. uncharacteristically, i decided to join her this time and off we went down the hall in our towels to use the shower. i was thinking that we would wash and get ready for round two. when we returned she started putting her clothes on to my dismay. i looked at my watch and she was right it had been an hour and 10 minutes to the second. i thought carefully about whether i should tip or not because she hadn't asked for one but the experience was so great i decided to throw in a 10000 cop tip. we parted with a kiss and i was feeling pretty good as i made it back out to the sidewalk and the blistering heat of cali in the afternoon.
i was planning on hitting olympia to buy some groceries and i decided to check and see how much money i had left. i didn't feel comfortable counting the money out on the street so i briefly ran my hands through my pockets to get a sense of how much might be there. i was suprised by what i felt. my bundle was a little bit lighter than it should have been. i went into the store and found the bathroom and pulled out my wad to count it. the ***** had hit me for 40000 cop and like an idiot i tipped her an extra 10000 cop. so much for me being an experienced monger. i think that i deserve to lose my mongering license making a rookie mistake like that one. everyone knows that you should never go into an apartment with more cash than you are going to spend. i was trying to be lazy and wanted to avoid the trip back to the hotel before going shopping and it cost me 20usd. le di papaya in a big way! what's really fucked up is that i still want to repeat with ***** because she was the best fuck that i have had in this country so far. definately check this place out but watch your back!
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years ago I visited cali and made friends with a taxi driver. He took me to some out of the way places. One of my favorite places I believe was on carretera 15.
There were a bunch of somewhat sleazy bars all grouped together. I couldn't figure it out at first. I never saw any customer leave with a girl and they all just seemed to be drinking and dancing with them.
When I walked in a very cute spinner's eyes lit up and she sat across from me making eye contact. After a few minutes a group of colombian guys came in and grabbed a booth and invited her to sit with them. She looked annoyed and even sad. She kept looking at me and smiling etc.
In the mean time my taxi driver called over her amiga, brenda. Brenda came and sat with us and my taxi driver asked her if she wanted to go out danicng later. She said sure. We made plans to head to Juancito after the bar closed.
As the bar closed and the lights came on, the spinner ran over and started talking to her amiga. her amiga excitedly said we were going dancing. the spinner, Angie looked bummed. I asked if she wanted to join us and she lit up. We all went out to juancito and danced till like 8 am. Angie was falling for me and we headed to a motel afterwards. I went to a room with angie and my taxi guy took brenda etc.
Later on when we were leaving I asked angie how much and she started crying. I was surprised and didn't bring it up again. Now years later having been to ficha bars in the states and other countries I know that for the most part locals go there to drink, dance and flirt and they aren't really p4p in the strictest sense. More of a case by case basis etc.
I seem to dig that atmosphere more than the lineup kiss on cheek pick one out deal with most casas in Cali. I had a blast for a few nights with angie and even kept in touch for a while.
Does anybody know where the heck I was? It was years ago. My spanish was not as good as it is now and I was unfamiliar with Cali. If I ever visit cali again, I'd love to stop back into these bars even for just old times sake.
I think they were on carretera 15 but could be wrong.Dam your good, bro, it may be Carrera 15 between calle 30 and 34 by the Bomba(Gas station) La floresta
My two cents,
Kukulkan
years ago I visited cali and made friends with a taxi driver. He took me to some out of the way places. One of my favorite places I believe was on carretera 15.
There were a bunch of somewhat sleazy bars all grouped together. I couldn't figure it out at first. I never saw any customer leave with a girl and they all just seemed to be drinking and dancing with them.
When I walked in a very cute spinner's eyes lit up and she sat across from me making eye contact. After a few minutes a group of colombian guys came in and grabbed a booth and invited her to sit with them. She looked annoyed and even sad. She kept looking at me and smiling etc.
In the mean time my taxi driver called over her amiga, brenda. Brenda came and sat with us and my taxi driver asked her if she wanted to go out danicng later. She said sure. We made plans to head to Juancito after the bar closed.
As the bar closed and the lights came on, the spinner ran over and started talking to her amiga. her amiga excitedly said we were going dancing. the spinner, Angie looked bummed. I asked if she wanted to join us and she lit up. We all went out to juancito and danced till like 8 am. Angie was falling for me and we headed to a motel afterwards. I went to a room with angie and my taxi guy took brenda etc.
Later on when we were leaving I asked angie how much and she started crying. I was surprised and didn't bring it up again. Now years later having been to ficha bars in the states and other countries I know that for the most part locals go there to drink, dance and flirt and they aren't really p4p in the strictest sense. More of a case by case basis etc.
I seem to dig that atmosphere more than the lineup kiss on cheek pick one out deal with most casas in Cali. I had a blast for a few nights with angie and even kept in touch for a while.
Does anybody know where the heck I was? It was years ago. My spanish was not as good as it is now and I was unfamiliar with Cali. If I ever visit cali again, I'd love to stop back into these bars even for just old times sake.
I think they were on carretera 15 but could be wrong.
you were on Carretera 15.
but don't be fooled or deceived. Those places are hooker/hostess places and all have rooms in the back. The girls make their dough by your buying them drinks, lap dances and such, tips and of course by taking you to the rooms in the back (which are expensive!)
few colombians can afford such rooms, and the moneyed crowd doesn't hang out on 15, in fact it can be dangerous for an unaccompanied foreigner. The locals tend to hang out with the girls in the booths and dance with them.
the girl you met may have liked you, but she was still a hooker. (hookers are people too)
but you are completely correct the atmosphere beats the casa setup by a mile, where they quickly shuffle by you, introduce themselves and then you are supposed to "make a choice".
When I return to Cali, I will hang out on 15 a lot more.
Casa at Ave 2AN 24N-61. Nights only.
Av. 2AN 24N-63 9am. 7pm.
La Casita del Rio Arte, Av. 2AN 24N-105. 40K 60 mins. Tel: 660-7481. Open every day 9am. 2am.
Can anyone make sense of these addresses? They are from the Cali casas lists but I have been unable to find an Avenida 2AN anywhere. There is an Avenida 2A and an Avenida 2N but Avenida 2A does not run into calle 24. I looked in the only two logical places that I could think of. I followed calle 24 past the hospital and under the overpass by the bus station but 24 runs out a little bit after 2Bis and there is an apartment building at 2Bis 24N-61. I figured that this couuld not be the place because there is no apartment number mentioned. As 2Bis runs south it actually becomed calle 24 again. I followed it to Avenida 2N and I located the addresses of 2N 24N-61 and 2N 24N-63 but they were both closed during the afternoon. There appeared to be a "legit" nails/massage place on the second floor and chicas were looking down at the street. Is this a front? I hope not because the chicas that I saw looking down were beasts. I followed the same street and the block ran out at about 2N 24N-75. In the next block all of the addresses were 2CN addresses so I was unable to locate La Casita del Rio Arte. I really wanted to find this place because of the hours. Does anyone have some info that can clear this up?
i think i've been with the lorena you are writing about. once you can accept pm's i'll pm you her foto and you can tell me if that is her. i have her email address if you want to give her a hard time about lightening your pockets... assuming of course that it's the same chica.
i finally found this place after making several circles of the block and attracting the attention of many locals who were probably tempted to leave their comfortable seats in restaurants and beauty shops in the area in order to tell me, "hey gringo, the pussy is over here! " it is a little bit hard to find because calle 23 splits up into 3 or 4 different streets around a plaza where there is a small park. there is a calle 23n, 23b. etc. and it is a real pain in the ass to find this place trying to follow calle 23 from avenida sexta. the easiest way to get here is to walk down avenida 2n coming from the aparahotel del rio which is located at the corner of avenida 2n and calle 21. you can use one of two landmarks to find this casa. if you have been to clinica del amor you would walk past clinica and make a left turn on the next street after clinica. on the corner there is a restaurant called the del rio. you would need to make your turn on that corner which is calle 23an. actually, there was one positive in trying to find this place via calle 23an. i found a citibank location and they have a higher withdrawal limit than the local banks. most locals banks here will only dispense 300, 000 cop at a time but citibank's limit was 600, 000 cop. this saved me having to pay two times the banks fees for the same withdrawal amount. there was no guard outside when i arrived so i entered not really knowing if i had the correct door.
i was in a small lobby/waiting area and saw another door to my left which was half closed. i took a peek in and saw about 12 guys seated on leather couches in another larger room. i told myself, "yup, this is definately the place. " as i entered i was approached by a fat, poofy, fag who asked me if i wanted something to drink. i said no and he told me to have a seat in what was actually the last place to sit available. all of the guys were sitting there looking at each other and waiting (and sweating. it was hot as hell in there. i began to regret not taking mister sweet p up on that drink offer.) none of the guys were talking to each other and i wondered what they were waiting for. the atmosphere was so different from the lobby at clinica because a lot of the guys here seemed nervous. the host/hostess returned and told me that soon the girls would be coming out.
i read in the cali lists that the hottest girls of all of the casas were to be found here. frankly, i would have to disagree but not for the reason that you might think. to be totally honest with you imho i have seen the hottest girls working in casas in cali that i have seen in similar places around the world. most lineups definately have their collection of dogs but the hotties included in most casa stables are so hot that you are amazed that these women are available for a $15-40usd fuck. in this respect i would have to say that the lineup here was average with respect to what i have seen so far in colombia. i saw 6 girls 2 of which were model quality, two highly doables (had the body but just an average face), and 2 losers (one had the face but not the body and the other had neither. she was clearly there to do all of the nasty shit that the other girls would refuse to do. i have to admit that if i were really jonesing for some cola i might have propositioned her because it has been next to impossible to get some ass here.) on a funny note the fat ugly girl actually left the joint right after the lineup. i guess that she knew that she wasn't going to be chosen and wanted to grab an empanada and some salchipapas in between rep002s, fisting sessions, and anal probings.
the winners for me were natalia, a light skinned mestizo spinner with nice real tits and lorena, a dark skinned mulata with the perfect little spinner body. these girls were hot! and i had a hard time deciding. the man/madame, who incidently was probably the only one in the joint willing to give up the cola, returned for my decision before i was really ready but i went on instinct and chose lorena. he sent her out to meet me and discuss our activities for the day. i must say that the setup of this casa is not for the shy monger. the couches are positioned really close together and the guys in the room are sitting quietly and not talking to each other. when a girl comes into the room all eyes and ears are on the two of you and your conversation. if you have a problem telling a strange girl that you want to dress her up in a cheerleeder outfit, pour maple syrup on her, and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in her mouth in a foreign tongue in front of an audience of a dozen nervous, horny, sweaty latinos this is probably not the place for you.
she came out and i started making small talk but the ambience of that lobby area was just a drag and she looked so good that i finally just came out and asked her what the pricing structure was and what she did for that price. right away she told me no cola. this was a good and bad sign. really, i have resigned myself to going without the cola so i wasn't so disapointed and the fact that she started her objections with the cola proved that she was open to other things. i asked about a bbbj and she said sure, no problem. that was all of the encouragement that i needed as i was already salivating over her hot bod and i agreed to an hour session with her. she disapeared into the back and i was told that a room was being prepared.
the room was not as bad as i expected. there was a small couch and a bed with two endtables. it was small and not immaculate but not filthy. as i entered the madame was spraying some air freshner to drown out the odors of the previous occupants. there was no bathroom in the room which made me glad that i had just showered before coming. lorena came into the room with a towel and some condoms. she seemed cheerful and talkative. we started to exchange the usual small talk and she told me that her real name was erica and she is originally from buenaventura. i was enjoying the conversation but was wondering how we were going to transition from this to the sex. she looked fantastic and i couldn't wait to rip her clothes off. suddenly, in the middle of our conversation she starts taking off her top and then started working on the bra.
i was rubbing her back and stopped her from undressing and started to undress her myself. i removed her top and her perky, brown, natural breasts jiggled free but remained firm and in place. i brushed my hand lightly across them and they were so warm and perfect that i began to wonder if she was legal. i asked her how old that she was and she replied, "21". good enough for me! onward and upward! or should i say inward. i gestured for her to stand up and i began to explore her body with my hands and mouth. i turned her around and started to kiss down her back and gently rub her firm perfectly shaped little brown ass. the color of her skin was medium brown with a reddish tint and was soft and blemish free. i turned her around and started to really go to work on her tits when she stopped me and told me, "i'm nursing. i have a 1 year old baby boy. " she was smiling as she grabbed an erect nipple and squeezed it hard between her thumb and index finger. "see! " she said as a thick, clear fluid oozed out of the nipple. i was a little bit shocked and started laughing in spite of myself. i then collected myself and went back to work covering every inch of her body that i could reach. every once in a while, when suckling her breast, i would feel the moisture in my mouth and taste the sweet taste of her milk. i never knew that human milk was so sweet. i looked up at her and saw nothing but relaxation and pleasure on her face.
i moved up for a kiss and there was no resistance. we started with lfk and then i moved down to her neck and down further to her breasts. when i came back to her sweet, young mouth the kisses became deeper and more exploratory. i decided to stand up with her so that i could hold her while we were kissing and as i stood i realized for the first time how small this girl really was. her body was so proportioned that i didn't notice at first but without her high heels on she was a full head and a half shorter than me. a true spinner! we moved to the bed and resumed where we left off. while my hands rubbed her ass and her back her tongue was moving from my mouth to my neck to my nipples and back again. then her lips lightly trailed southward down my stomach and to my erect cock which was so hard now that it seemed like it was going to lauch itself off of my body.
she gently leaned the shaft towards my body with one hand while moving her head lower so that she could gently lick my balls. i can't accurately describe with words the feeling of lying back and watching as this incredibly beautiful girl flicked her tongue across my scrotum while her perfectly shaped natural breasts rocked silently back and forth in the backdrop. then without direction and at the perfect time she moved the shaft towards her mouth and licked off the drop of precum which capped the tip. she then started to swallow the head of my cock quickly moving her head forward and backwards. her thrusts began to get deeper and deeper until she was taking 3/4 of my cock into her throat on every thrust. her titties started jiggling together as she snapped her neck back and forth without stop. the speed of her thrusts increased and i had to fight the temptation to grab her head and start skull fucking her. it was our first session and i didn't know how she would take it so i took deep breaths and relaxed into a state that you can only reach when you know for sure that the girl you are with knows how to suck cock and is not going to stop until your cum paints her tonsils.
i reached a plateau where waves of pleasure were spreading throughout my body with each deep breath that i took in the foreground of my conciousness while the image of her bent over on all fours like an animal sucking my cock was toiling away in the background. it reminded me of the oil drills that you see on road trips through texas and oklahoma bobbing silently up and down against the flat dry landcape on the horizon. while your mind is awash with memories from the past and dreams for the future the sound of the car slipping along the road is buzzing in your ears and that well keeps on drilling away in the distance and the driving of the car takes care of itself. who knows how long this went on but it seemed like a long time and she never stopped. this chick is a cock sucking demon! all of the sudden i wanted to fuck her and i told her this.
she must have wanted this too because before i even really knew what happened she had put a condom on me and jumped on top in cowgirl and started working that tight ass pussy of hers. she was popping her hips back and forth like she was in a jay-z video and i could feel her hard nipples scrapping across by chest. then she leaned way back towards my feet so that she could rub my cock at a different angle. i felt myself close to popping so i picked her up and rolled her over on her back and started pumping into her in missionary. her pussy was so wet now that i could hear the moisture with every thrust. i grabbed her legs and pushed her small little brown baby feet towards her head and rolled her up onto her shoulders and i let loose with everything that i had fucking her as hard and as fast as i possibly could. sweat started pouring down my chest and my groin was slapped loudly against her ass. i let her heels come to rest on my shoulders and continued pounding her while her titties bounced back and forth across her chest. i felt the end nearing and shrieked as i felt my groin spasming with 8-10 powerful spurts of cum. i kept pumping into her as the pleasure peaked then seemed to plateau and peak again and then slowly rolled away to nothing.
we cleaned up and talked. she told me that her mother was colombian and her father was italian and she was describing to me the dangers of living in buenaventura (drug dealers, paramilitares. etc.). suddenly she said that she wanted to clean herself off and made a move for the shower. i decided to join her. generally i never do this because i think that the idea of showering in a casa is really disgusting and also because casas in cali never have hot water. uncharacteristically, i decided to join her this time and off we went down the hall in our towels to use the shower. i was thinking that we would wash and get ready for round two. when we returned she started putting her clothes on to my dismay. i looked at my watch and she was right it had been an hour and 10 minutes to the second. i thought carefully about whether i should tip or not because she hadn't asked for one but the experience was so great i decided to throw in a 10000 cop tip. we parted with a kiss and i was feeling pretty good as i made it back out to the sidewalk and the blistering heat of cali in the afternoon.
i was planning on hitting olympia to buy some groceries and i decided to check and see how much money i had left. i didn't feel comfortable counting the money out on the street so i briefly ran my hands through my pockets to get a sense of how much might be there. i was suprised by what i felt. my bundle was a little bit lighter than it should have been. i went into the store and found the bathroom and pulled out my wad to count it. the ***** had hit me for 40000 cop and like an idiot i tipped her an extra 10000 cop. so much for me being an experienced monger. i think that i deserve to lose my mongering license making a rookie mistake like that one. everyone knows that you should never go into an apartment with more cash than you are going to spend. i was trying to be lazy and wanted to avoid the trip back to the hotel before going shopping and it cost me 20usd. le di papaya in a big way! what's really fucked up is that i still want to repeat with ***** because she was the best fuck that i have had in this country so far. definately check this place out but watch your back!
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Well I've been quite busy in Cali. The truth is I haven't had time for a run at the casas, been too busy with a few regular chicas I met, my favorite being my little morenita ... "mi chocolate" ... what a great chica!
Truth is, I found it doesn't matter how many gringos visit Cali, Medellin, etc, the vast majority are non-spanish speaking puta hunters, which is fine, but if you are a cool guy with spanish skills, you will win over many chicas and the GFE will be the norm.
Here's a couple very cropped fotos, can't show more ... don't want to get myself in trouble :)
Suerte hombres!
I think I've been with the Lorena you are writing about. Once you can accept pm's I'll pm you her foto and you can tell me if that is her. I have her email address if you want to give her a hard time about lightening your pockets... assuming of course that it's the same chica.The truth is that I have already repeated with her. What can I say. The chick can really blow! I went to Clinica yesterday and the lineup at about 130PM was hideous. Everybody had beat me there and were on their Friday afternoon lunch breaks banging the hottest chicas. I saw some old hags at Clinica yesterday that they must usually keep tied up in the back by the barn. I went in search of the other casas in the lists section but couldn't find them. Reluctantly, I beat a path back to Lorena's casa. I saw all of the chicas in the house this time because for some reason there were no guys there at all. There are two more hotties in that casa that I was thinking of test driving but Lorena came out last and she was looking really good. I decided to let bygones be bygones and spent the next half of an hour shoving my cock down her throat. She let me cum in her mouth this time and after sucking out the last few drops with a smile she let the cum slowly dribble down onto her tits and the bed. There is something about a good BBBJCIM that brings out the forgiveness in my heart. I will be seeing her again.
calle 23an 2n - 95 - casa report
i finally found this place after making several circles of the block
i was in a small lobby/waiting area and saw another door to my left which was half closed. i took a peek in and saw about 12 guys seated on leather couches in another larger room. i told myself, "yup, this is definately the place. " as i entered i was approached by a fat, poofy, fag who asked me if i wanted something to drink.
big bob 7,
the "poofy fag" is actually a real nice guy and my buddy. his name is burbujas (bubbles). also the name of the place is "ropa de bebe" (baby's clothes). one thing that should be noted is that the nicer girls start their shifts after 1pm. the other clients may have been waiting for their favorites to finish up.
burbujas will find what you are looking for as well. tell him what you want because he has many girls numbers in his cell on standby.
last time in cali i had a few of the good picks by showing up at 12:45pm and waiting for hotties to show up. this is one of them although i did have some much cuter but they didn't want any pictures taken. i'm bad with names but i think her name is estafani. great bbbj and a sexual animal!
cheers,
cubanut
I've been thinking about trying colombia for awhile and Ive narrowed it down to cali. I think cali would be cheaper than medellin and more sleazy. Would this be correct ?
My concern is the type of service I would be getting. At this point in the game I need BBBJ DATY and ball washing to get off. I have had experiences before with colombian women in ecuador and costa rica and they were all pros and quite agressive. Ive been told colombian women on their own turf are different.
Can you do anything else intresting in cali ? I like to stay away for a month at a time.
Is there any concern for altitude sickness in cali ?
Thanks
Luver Of Chicas
08-05-07, 15:07
I've been thinking about trying colombia for awhile and Ive narrowed it down to cali. I think cali would be cheaper than medellin and more sleazy. Would this be correct?
My concern is the type of service I would be getting. At this point in the game I need BBBJ DATY and ball washing to get off. I have had experiences before with colombian women in ecuador and costa rica and they were all pros and quite agressive. Ive been told colombian women on their own turf are different.
Can you do anything else intresting in cali ? I like to stay away for a month at a time.
Is there any concern for altitude sickness in Cali?
ThanksGo to Costa Rica.
I don't think you will find a noticeable difference in cost between Cali and Medellin. In fact, strip clubs seem cheaper in Medellin. The women from Cali are generally more sleazy than the women from Medellin, but I would say the sex scene is more sleazy in Medellin. This is due to a much more active street sex scene in Medellin and a higher number of mid and low-end strip clubs.
I've never heard of altitude sickness being an issue in Cali. As far as interesting things to do in Cali, I'm drawing a blank. Cali is very boring to me outisde the mongering scene.
As far as interesting things to do in Cali, I'm drawing a blank. Cali is very boring to me outisde the mongering scene.
Cali does have a few touristy things to do.
There is the Tres Cruces mountain that you can visit. There is the Loma de al Cruz artisan area where you can be a variety of arts and crafts. There is thr Plaza dos Toros which has sporting events. There is family oriented fair south of the city on haciendas offering playgrounds, live music, and food on week-ends. There is also a very popular water park north of the city. I think it is a 45 minute bus ride.
However, compared to Cartagena or Santa Marta, Cali is NOT a tourist mecca.
Luis The Great
08-06-07, 13:43
You might want to try San Siprano and Lago Calima while your in Cali. These toursitic things arent in Cali however are 1 - 2 Hr drive.
San Siprano
San Cipriano is a tiny, almost inaccessible village that sits on a stunningly clear river that flows through the same dense jungle of the famed Darien Gap.
http://jameswrichards.********.com/2006/03/three-years-and-one-day.html
Lago Calima
Artifical Lake Resort
Jet skis, Hotels,Im not sure what town this is in however the whole town is built atround the tourists. I went there for the weekend once had a great time.
Many girls would jump at the chance to accompany you just to get away from the day to day BS in Cali.
You might want to try San Siprano and Lago Calima while your in Cali. These toursitic things arent in Cali however are 1 - 2 Hr drive.
San Siprano
San Cipriano is a tiny, almost inaccessible village that sits on a stunningly clear river that flows through the same dense jungle of the famed Darien Gap.
http://jameswrichards.********.com/2006/03/three-years-and-one-day.html
Lago Calima
Artifical Lake Resort
Jet skis, Hotels,Im not sure what town this is in however the whole town is built atround the tourists. I went there for the weekend once had a great time.
Many girls would jump at the chance to accompany you just to get away from the day to day BS in Cali.Just one coment: San Cipriano still FARC and Paramilitares territory
Lago Calima is a good spot, to take your novia, or like Luis said: Many girls would jump at the chance to accompany you just to get away from the day to day BS in Cali
My two cents
Kukulkan
I'm remembering a few options now. Kilometer 18 is a nice place to visit if you want to get away from the heat in Cali. It's just outside Cali up in the mountains. You'll find good food from vendors/restaurants, the scenery is great if you like mountains, and the temp is about 10 degrees cooler. Just tell the taxi driver Kilometer 18 and they'll know what you mean.
There's the famous Chipchape mall and I also like Jardin Plaza (in the South of Cali), Cosmo Centro (good place for watching/picking-up women), and Palmetto Mall (free wireless internet in food court).
Horseback riding is very common and cheap around Cali.
If you like eating Cholados and would like to visit a nearby city, try Jamundi (where there is a lot of horseback riding too). It's about 30 minutes from the center of Cali.
If your considering investing in Colombia, you can kill time and maybe find a good investment by touring some of the many new condos and houses they are building (mostly in the South of Cali).
Ok, most of these things are pretty boring, but that's all I've come-up with on my visits to Cali. At least the nights are fun.
I'm remembering a few options now. Kilometer 18 is a nice place to visit if you want to get away from the heat in Cali. It's just outside Cali up in the mountains. You'll find good food from vendors/restaurants, the scenery is great if you like mountains, and the temp is about 10 degrees cooler. Just tell the taxi driver Kilometer 18 and they'll know what you mean.
There's the famous Chipchape mall and I also like Jardin Plaza (in the South of Cali), Cosmo Centro (good place for watching/picking-up women), and Palmetto Mall (free wireless internet in food court).
Horseback riding is very common and cheap around Cali.
If you like eating Cholados and would like to visit a nearby city, try Jamundi (where there is a lot of horseback riding too). It's about 30 minutes from the center of Cali.
If your considering investing in Colombia, you can kill time and maybe find a good investment by touring some of the many new condos and houses they are building (mostly in the South of Cali).
Ok, most of these things are pretty boring, but that's all I've come-up with on my visits to Cali. At least the nights are fun.Talking abouth Cholados K Dog The best one's are at the Picinas Panamericanas.
Kukulkan
Jergens007
08-08-07, 08:13
Col Bog 1,
Damn that Tatiana girl is amazing! Get score!
You have any more photos of her?
If so, post some more!
Cheers!
Thanks for the reply! I only went to one place on carretera 15 and did not see any back rooms or anybody leaving. I also am used to going to "piano bars" or hostess clubs where the girls are not obligated to have sex with customers, but many will if they dig you. Interesting to find out that they are in fact hookers.
Here in the DR we have the piano bars and there are all different levels of "class" etc. In fact in many of the upscale places, guys with money do go there. I went to one place that is in a poor barrio, and out front were parked Beamers, Jags and mercedes amongst the jeepetas. Typically the waitresses wind up hooking up with a novio after working there a few months. Many of the moneyed go there to look for mistresses or novias.
I am not sure when I will return to cali but I will be there at some point next year. I will definitely hit carretera 15 and I also had luck in the 2 dive strip clubs that were on avenida sexta. Was not big on the casas as the line up and choose method does nothing for me.
Again thanks for letting me know that my long term memory may not be as bad as I thought!
you were on Carretera 15.
but don't be fooled or deceived. Those places are hooker/hostess places and all have rooms in the back. The girls make their dough by your buying them drinks, lap dances and such, tips and of course by taking you to the rooms in the back (which are expensive!)
few colombians can afford such rooms, and the moneyed crowd doesn't hang out on 15, in fact it can be dangerous for an unaccompanied foreigner. The locals tend to hang out with the girls in the booths and dance with them.
the girl you met may have liked you, but she was still a hooker. (hookers are people too)
but you are completely correct the atmosphere beats the casa setup by a mile, where they quickly shuffle by you, introduce themselves and then you are supposed to "make a choice".
When I return to Cali, I will hang out on 15 a lot more.
Col Bog 1,
Damn that Tatiana girl is amazing! Get score!
You have any more photos of her?
If so, post some more!
Cheers!
I enjoyed those Tatiana fotos also but truth is Jergens, it's not too tough to score with a casa chica.
You go to the casa, pick a chica out of a lineup and you score.
Pretty easy ... :)
where were the 2 dive strip clubs on sexta? I don't remember seeing any strip joints walking around, but I wasn't really sticking my nose into any and every establishment either.
and I generally do not like strip joints anyways.
MiamiHeatLuver
08-10-07, 18:19
where were the 2 dive strip clubs on sexta? I don't remember seeing any strip joints walking around, but I wasn't really sticking my nose into any and every establishment either.
and I generally do not like strip joints anyways.
Come to think of it, I would like to know as well, Ive never seen any strip clubs on La Sexta, I didnt say anything becasue I thought it was a typo.
It was back in 1999 and not on the main drag of sexta. There were 2 places right next door to each other. One was called Latin ladys I believe and don't remember what the other was called. One of them was on the second floor.
I took one girl out of the second floor club. we went to juancito and danced all night and then to a short term motel. Total GFE and still top 5 as far as sex in my entire life. I ordered 2 taxis and as I was getting in mine and pulling out of the motel parking lot. . . .I could see she was crying. . . .which was weird. We had a major league connection. Usually I have to know someone very well for the sex to be that good. It was like we had been lovers for years.
Come to think of it, I would like to know as well, Ive never seen any strip clubs on La Sexta, I didnt say anything becasue I thought it was a typo.
Jergens007
08-16-07, 09:38
Hi Ricker,
This might be a dumb question.
What is a casa chica? LOL. Is casa a brothel?
Thanks
, it's not too tough to score with a casa chica.
You go to the casa, pick a chica out of a lineup and you score.
Pretty easy ... :)
http://www.clinicadoctoramor.com/home.htm
Hi Ricker,
This might be a dumb question.
What is a casa chica? LOL. Is casa a brothel?
Thanks
Hey amigo ... a casa chica is basically a girl that works in one of the massage / sex houses.
I'm sure you know that "casa" means "house".
Good luck!
Hey amigo ... a casa chica is basically a girl that works in one of the massage / sex houses.
I'm sure you know that "casa" means "house".
Good luck!
hey Ricker.
mi casa es su casa
hahahahahahaahahahahahaah
hey Ricker. mi casa es su casa
hahahahahahaahahahahahaahAh you speak Spanish. I'm sure you meant
jajajajajajajajajajajajaja!!
-zing
If Cali is suppose to have the most beautiful women in the world, how come nobody writes nor uploads photos? Is Medellin the mongering mecca or is Cali just the subtle paradise?
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