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Smoke
10-20-08, 00:14
I am a very experienced monger with conversational spanish skills who will be in Cartagena for the first time from November 20th thru the 28th. Please feel free to PM me if you are going to be in town and want to get together to hit the circuit.

Dogman2
10-20-08, 00:56
I prefer hotels over apartments. Please suggest a hotel in Laguito around $ 50-75 range.

Thanks,

For your helpThere are 2 hotels in Laguito:

The Hilton starts at about $270 USD plus tax per night.

Dann Cartagena starts at about $200 USD plus tax per night.

Rainman3
10-20-08, 03:14
I prefer hotels over apartments. Please suggest a hotel in Laguito around $ 50-75 range.

Thanks,

For your helpBro, once you do your homework you will find that in Cartagena and in most cities in Colombia you can get much nicer apartments for less money than you can get a hotel room. Juan Ventura has some very nice apartments right in the center of the action. You might want to reconsider unless you are just bound and determined to "pay more for less".

Phunluv
10-20-08, 07:44
my experience was somewhat similar to tom powers although this one is with a supposed "non-pro" (a term that imho has dubious meaning in colombia).

i will say, i got my own bathing suit for 5k cop as opposed to your girl getting hers for 100k. next time, go to the old city. there's a commercial area there, where you can get stuff for reasonable prices, even non-electric toothbrushes!

1. 2 million cop for dinner for 4 is insane. i don't care if it's at santa clara hotel. that's $150/person, more than many restaurants even in nyc where i live.

as for studio f dresses, my girl arrived from bogota with a piece of luggage larger than mine and it was packed with studio f dresses that a former gringo bf had bought for her; most of them, she hadn't even worn yet! plus a very expensive perfume, can't remember the name but it was almost $200 usd.

that relationship should have been a major warning sign for me to back off. i dated this girl in sept. of '07 when i visited bogota. she seemed a bit flaky but nothing out of the ordinary. we made out a few times and she accompanied me to the airport and kissed me for a loooong time at the security gate before letting me go.

i think this fling she had with the other gringo (which happened between my trip last year to bog and this one to ctg) really spoiled her and screwed with her mind.

not a good thing, because i've come to the conclusion that despite all the hype about colombianas making good wives and affectionate companions, the reality is a whole other story! too many are both flaky in one way and manipulative in another way. and that's before getting spoiled by clueless gringos with too much money to throw around!

back to my story. i decided to "try something different" and "go non-pro" and take a chance with this girl i dated in bogota. i ignored my misgivings about her involvement with another gringo and invited her to accompany me in my vacation to ctg. i figured she was 29 so she couldn't be too immature or much of a problem. i used up 15k avianca ff miles, plus 200k cop in taxes to fly her crazy ass round trip bog/ctg.

long story short, this vacation i just had in mid-sept. '08 was a disappointment. the heat and humidity was bad, at one point, i thought my girl, who's used to the cool weather of bogota, was going to pass out from heat exhaustion! the touts and vendors never left me in peace; even in the rosario islands they were there! and then my crazy "non-pro" girl.

we went out to tu candela as well. we had befriended some venezuelans (many come to ctg for vacation) on a chiva ride we signed up for, which i didn't really care for but she did seem to enjoy the experience. we all decided to check out tu candela and we shared a bottle of absolut and oj. we got a bit hammered at the club, and i was getting annoyed by her attitude, plus she didn't really want to dance with me. told her i wanted to leave, she can tell her new friends i wasn't feeling well. she got mad, said she was leaving also. speaks with the other 2 venezuelan girls and the whole group decides to call it an early night, so we all step out and say our goodbyes.

got in a taxi, and a huge argument breaks out. she's screaming that she's never been out in a club with putas/prepagas and blah, blah. i just laugh at her and tell her she's full of it, this is the most common thing in colombia.

i don't say it to her, but the irony of course, is that i'm a foreigner paying her way for a free vacation in ctg plus a nice evening out payed for by yours truly while she's wearing a dress purchased by an ex-bf gringo. but she's the one acting offended by hanging out with prepagas, wtf?

(by the way, the prepagas do seem to prefer to hang out on the 2nd flr which is where we had gone, downstairs seems to be more of a normal crowd).

she storms out of the taxi as we approach our hotel, i stay in and tell the driver to speed away, and end up at ldv to complete the night the correct way.

after concluding my business at a love motel, i return to my normal hotel in the old city, i find she's gone. turns out she packed and left. i checked with the night manager and he says he's letting her sleep in another room nearby. the tension between us had been building for several days now, and it finally reached a breaking point this night.

this nightmare evening turns into a nightmare morning. she ends up coming back to my hotel room to rest. because she's getting sicker and sicker. in another hour, i end up having to take her ass to the hospital.

at first, i thought it was alcohol poisoning combined with some psycho-somatic bs but it was actually food poisoning according to the doctor. due to some crap seafood she ate earlier that day from one of those beach vendors; we had gone on this ridiculous trip out to one of the not-so-peaceful beaches at the rosario islands. the day before, i had let her choose the cheapest trip option to rosario, which for me was a joyless day-trip, and for her ended up getting an extra trip to the hospital from the unsanitary food these scumbag beach touts sell to tourists at ripoff prices (which i of course paid for the food and the hospital bill).

maybe it was better she didn't seem interested in the more romantic private boat option as that probably would have been a complete waste of money in her case (although i had told her i didn't mind paying extra for that experience).

so check this out: her health card was not accepted for payment outside of bogota! if it wasn't for my kindness, she'd be shit outta luck. the hospital bill was 85k cop, not a huge amount but she of course had absolutely zero. i was really pissed at this point, and i wanted to get rid of her even if i felt somewhat sorry for her in a certain way, since she did seem quite the pathetic sight by this time!

well, i had to endure her for one more day because it's hard to change a reservation same day on avianca when you got it with ff miles, but i was very glad when she was finally gone the next day. i enjoyed my final two days in cartagena without a single non-pro in sight!

so i finally learned my lesson. mind you, i speak fluent spanish and am half hispanic myself! but i'm sticking with the pros and the semi-pros. my vacations are usually quite short, so no more risking wasting my precious time dating or just plain dealing with the nonsense from these flaky, yet manipulative non-pros. i don't think i'd even invite a known good pro on these kinds of trips. i think even that could be asking for trouble.

tom powers, your girl was okay looking, very pretty face, sounds like she's a part time prepaga or semi-pro, not a non-pro. although that nonsense of needing every little thing is probably used by both pro and non-pro colombianas. she probably uses that trick all the time, has a whole wardrobe of studio f dresses that other gringos have bought for her, and a few rich colombianos as well.

tom, it's funny you mention the santa clara. a lot of colombianas seem to be obsessed with that place as well as the hilton in bocagrande and the false status it brings. we stepped in the santa clara to take a look and my crazy girl has the audacity to ask for prices, and look at one of the rooms, like she's planning to stay there. maybe it's my practical upbringing, but i have no interest whatsoever in forking over big bucks to these overrated and overpriced venues, they don't impress or interest me that much. whether it's a prestigious hotel or not, the line workers are pretty much paid the same, with the lion's share going to the corrupt proprietors and their political and paramilitary allies. i'll stick with the mid-range venues, as i have nothing to prove to anyone, certainly not a colombiana!

one last note: on my way back home at ctg airport, i saw a colombiana giving one loooong romantic kiss to her gringo bf at the security gate before he went off, which reminded me of the same thing my crazy girl did to me almost exactly one year before. i think you guys can now draw your own conclusions from that observation without me having to spell it out.

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Ricker
10-20-08, 17:30
As for Studio F dresses, my girl arrived from Bogota with a piece of luggage larger than mine and it was PACKED with Studio F dresses that a former gringo bf had bought for her; most of them, she hadn't even worn yet! Plus a very expensive perfume, can't remember the name but it was almost $200 USD.

That relationship should have been a major warning sign for me to back off. I dated this girl in Sept. Of '07 when I visited Bogota. She seemed a bit flaky but nothing out of the ordinary. We made out a few times and she accompanied me to the airport and kissed me for a loooong time at the security gate before letting me go ...

[/blue][/size]Well, anyone with a bit of experience in Colombia has most likely learned the hard-way, some harder than others, how some of these chicas can be.

There are, however, some beautiful, wonderful, caring, non-pro Colombianas out there. Lots of them actually.

Chicas that wouldn't dare let you shop at Studio F or any similar store for them.
There are non-pros who actually watch your back to ensure you're not getting ripped off.

When you see and feel the warning signs of a shark-like chica, they are almost always right.

Walk away from her, and go quickly.

I have fond memories of the NON-Pro chica and her mother filling up a shopping cart in Barranquilla, one hour after meeting them, and ordering me to pay.

Also of the Venezolana, on a first date, stopping into Studio F, selecting a wardrobe and ordering me over to pay.

In both cases, I just quickly disappeared.

They played their cards, and I just don't deal with that.

Too many other chicas who are sweet and unassuming who I'd rather be generous and share my time with.

Good luck amigos.

AddictedToWomen
10-20-08, 19:50
Phunluv -- Great report. Welcome to exclusive club of those who find the whole Rosario Islands thing as boring as fuck.

fwiw the Hilton can be value for money if you get it on a Deskubra deal, though otherwise its more like a HoJo to my mind and not worth the rack rate.

Santa Clara's another matter though. Never had reason to stay there but have eaten and drunk there and love the place. With the right person for the right occasion that would be worth the money.

As I've mentioned before, one of the, admittedly few, advantages of being over-weight, balding, and middle-aged is that you don't have to fight off the semi-pros.

Tiny 12
10-20-08, 23:39
Tom, it's funny you mention the Santa Clara. A lot of colombianas seem to be obsessed with that place as well as the Hilton in Bocagrande and the false status it brings. We stepped in the Santa Clara to take a look and my crazy girl has the audacity to ask for prices, and look at one of the rooms, like she's planning to stay there. Maybe it's my practical upbringing, but I have no interest whatsoever in forking over big bucks to these overrated and overpriced venues, they don't impress or interest me that much. I stayed there once.- I was with a nonpro girlfriend and wanted to keep her as far away from Laguito as possible. I agree with your assessment. The room is equivalent of what you'd pay 70% less for in a suburban hotel in the U. S. And there's no beach. I've stayed at Las Americas too, which was not quite as expensive, but rundown considering the price. Apartments are indeed the best option.

AdictoMujeres
10-21-08, 00:17
Everyone in our life learned the hard-way, some harder than others

These chicas can be very expensive if we plays that game. Not way.

Walk away from her, and go quickly.

I have fond memories of the Pro chica and Non Pro said me I need something. And Ok if you want ok and pay.

Then I said I want sex. Pay, not way.

I learned, I just quickly disappeared.

Now I play the cards, and I say if you want, I want to. Just don't deal with that.

Tom Power
10-21-08, 04:26
Phunluv, I got a video of the girls getting ready.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9k928XYjS8

When I read your story I realize were all in the exact same struggle. Can you re-explain why she got mad?

Tom

Mule69
10-21-08, 16:35
Thanks for an accurate and truthfull report Phun,it reminded me of my last trip to Ctg. with my girl from Medellin.She was a semi pro who tried to empty my wallet at every convienience.Starts with a bathing suit lol!!

Player2
10-22-08, 17:12
O.K Guys :

I have set my mind on an apartment now. Thank you for helping in making my decision. That is why this forum is for "HELP" each other.

Now, Is Dec 15-Jan 15 a good time for CTG? Will there be any problem in finding housing/lodging during this period?

Regards to all,

Player2

AddictedToWomen
10-22-08, 19:54
O.K Guys :

I have set my mind on an apartment now. Thank you for helping in making my decision. That is why this forum is for "HELP" each other.

Now, Is Dec 15-Jan 15 a good time for CTG? Will there be any problem in finding housing/lodging during this period?

Regards to all,

Player2High season.

Expensive with limited availability. Can you go late January instead?

Looking For Eden
10-22-08, 22:13
From what I know that is the busiest time of the year so book now if you can.

Mule69
10-23-08, 03:33
O.K Guys :

I have set my mind on an apartment now. Thank you for helping in making my decision. That is why this forum is for "HELP" each other.

Now, Is Dec 15-Jan 15 a good time for CTG? Will there be any problem in finding housing/lodging during this period?

Regards to all,

Player2I believe that will fall in the high season dates and the apts. will double or signifigantly increase in rate,It will be crowded with tourists, I do know that! I always avoid the high season for those two reasons

MJG Dogs
10-23-08, 16:25
I would wait until February. As others have said.

Plus Tony the tout will charge you 6000 cop for a beer.

Mr Blue
10-24-08, 00:47
One last note: on my way back home at CTG airport, I saw a colombiana giving one loooong romantic kiss to her gringo bf at the security gate before he went off, which reminded me of the same thing my crazy girl did to me almost exactly one year before. I think you guys can now draw your own conclusions from that observation without me having to spell it out.Wow. First time in more than a year that I step into this forum and I stumble on this. I fell for this exact same thing but it was about 4 yrs ago and further south.

PaulGore
10-24-08, 12:34
I am flying inti ctg in November for two weeks and want to drive to Barranquilla and Santa Marta the car rentals at airport are very expensive does anyone know of other means of renting cars from locals of which I have done in Cali a couple of times.

Tjmee
10-25-08, 08:31
I would wait until February. As others have said.

Plus Tony the tout will charge you 6000 cop for a beer.6000 cop is like 2 bucks?....thats not that expensive, im sure you guys pay for TLN, 2 bucks a beer is cheaper then the u.s in some places. and buying these girls clothes and stuff lol. never

MJG Dogs
10-26-08, 01:37
I gave him 2000 COP for a beer in September

Malodr
10-26-08, 16:03
6000 cop is like 2 bucks?....thats not that expensive, im sure you guys pay for TLN, 2 bucks a beer is cheaper then the u.s in some places. and buying these girls clothes and stuff lol. neverTony is an greedy asshole. Stay away from him.

Otiers
10-27-08, 01:04
After dealing with Tony for a few years, I decided to pack a collapsable cooler in my luggage. It holds about ten Aguillas with ice. Now Tony comes up to me begging for a beer. I swap him a couple for half price on the chair. Probably still overcharged for the chair though.

UrbanWildlife
10-27-08, 06:21
Despite what the last two posters say, Tony is a good guy, and you can have alot of fun with him, just like MJG Dogs and I did when we were in Tony's section in September, and we both have on many occasions. (I am sure MJG Dogs will agree with me) The guy is a character and alot of fun. He can be a real asset to anyone who is looking for some daytime action. He has many contacts, and he will work his ass off to get you the type of girl you are looking for. Furthermore, if you see a girl on the beach you are attracted to, even if it is a non working girl, just tell him you are interested in meeting her, and 9 out of 10 times he will get her for you. He is very good at what he does.

Yes he will try to get as much money out of you as he can, but his JOB IS SERVICING the needs of the people on the beach, so who can fault him for getting what he can. This is how he pays his rent, puts food in his mouth, e.t.c. It is up to the people who are desiring service on the beach to know the cost of the carpas, chairs, beer, soda, e.t.c.

If he asks you to buy him a beer, big deal. Is one or two beers at the cost of $2 or $3.00 dollars going to break your bank?. It is worth this little bit of change for the entertainment he provides. He also keeps an eye on your belongings if you go into the ocean e.t.c., and this is very nice because you do not have to worry about your belongings being stolen.

For anyone who will be enjoying the beach in Cartagena, I highly suggest you find his area on Playa Hollywood. You will be entertained continuously, and you will have alot of fun with him. He is also not a pest. He stops by your chair or carpas from time to time to check if you need anything but that is it. This is no different than a waiter/waitress would do if you were in a restaurant or bar. Look at him as an asset, and not the greedy asshole that Malodr claims, as that is not the way he is. He is really a nice guy.

Tom 33
10-27-08, 14:28
Except for Tony and high season, the carpas are 2k and the chairs are 1K.

Tony and I get along fine. I buy nothing and rent nothing from him. I have, on rare occasion, sampled a chica that he introduced. But I tipped him nothing, that is the chica's responsibility. And she has to tip Tony whether or not you do.

Ricker
10-27-08, 19:06
Despite what the last two posters say, Tony is a good guy, and you can have alot of fun with him, just like MJG Dogs and I did when we were in Tony's section in September, and we both have on many occasions. (I am sure MJG Dogs will agree with me) The guy is a character and alot of fun. He can be a real asset to anyone who is looking for some daytime action. He has many contacts, and he will work his ass off to get you the type of girl you are looking for. Furthermore, if you see a girl on the beach you are attracted to, even if it is a non working girl, just tell him you are interested in meeting her, and 9 out of 10 times he will get her for you. He is very good at what he does.

Yes he will try to get as much money out of you as he can, but his JOB IS SERVICING the needs of the people on the beach, so who can fault him for getting what he can. This is how he pays his rent, puts food in his mouth, e.t.c. It is up to the people who are desiring service on the beach to know the cost of the carpas, chairs, beer, soda, e.t.c.

If he asks you to buy him a beer, big deal. Is one or two beers at the cost of $2 or $3.00 dollars going to break your bank?. It is worth this little bit of change for the entertainment he provides. He also keeps an eye on your belongings if you go into the ocean e.t.c., and this is very nice because you do not have to worry about your belongings being stolen.

For anyone who will be enjoying the beach in Cartagena, I highly suggest you find his area on Playa Hollywood. You will be entertained continuously, and you will have alot of fun with him. He is also not a pest. He stops by your chair or carpas from time to time to check if you need anything but that is it. This is no different than a waiter/waitress would do if you were in a restaurant or bar. Look at him as an asset, and not the greedy asshole that Malodr claims, as that is not the way he is. He is really a nice guy.I have to agree really, that Tony can be a good ally for you, though just know that he will try to make money off you, of course, that´s his job.

Just know the going rates and negotiate in advance so there´s no misunderstandings later.

He doesn't mind if you call his bluff, if he's asking for too much, just tell him what you´re willing to pay.

Good luck.

Aussie Greg
10-27-08, 20:20
I'll be down there for the New Year, I'd like to meet him, sounds like a real hussler, a bit like you New Yorkers !!!

"Conquistardor Aussie Greg"

Malodr
10-27-08, 23:42
Despite what the last two posters say, Tony is a good guy, and you can have alot of fun with him, just like MJG Dogs and I did when we were in Tony's section in September, and we both have on many occasions. (I am sure MJG Dogs will agree with me) The guy is a character and alot of fun. He can be a real asset to anyone who is looking for some daytime action. He has many contacts, and he will work his ass off to get you the type of girl you are looking for. Furthermore, if you see a girl on the beach you are attracted to, even if it is a non working girl, just tell him you are interested in meeting her, and 9 out of 10 times he will get her for you. He is very good at what he does.I am not starting a fight here, but you can walk up to any chica you see as well. If he does it, you are going to pay.

I had a chica, I paid her 50,000 and Tony got that chica for my friend and he paid 150,000.

Tony will cost you.

MJG Dogs
10-28-08, 09:14
I was on the beach with Urbanwildlife. However my take is a little different on Tony. He can be helpful If you know how to play him. He is greedy and if your smart and patient you can use that greed to your advantage. Especially during slow times.

I agree with Malodr I also negotiate withe the chica directly, behind Tony's back. Sure I let Tony introduce women to me, but when he does, I seem always disinterested, however later if I am interested, I will approach the chica on my own.

I do like to jew the fuck out of Tony down on shit, it is part of the game. Sometimes I get Tony pissed off at me, which I enjoy at times.

Tom Power
10-28-08, 13:14
I've spent a lot of time camped out near Mamma Rosa's fruit stand which to those of you in the know is where they have the hooker tent. The hooker tent is where the massage girls and street walkers who religiously work playa hollywood hang out. These girls are usually locals, and not so mint, . But usually very cheap. There are pretty much two types of higher calibre hookers that show up from noon or so on. The ones who work dolce vita and are lookin for an extra trick or to take another shot at the retarted idiot who got drunk and threw his money around with them last night (me). The other type are girls who for some strange reason only work the beach, . They'll come in from barranquilla or where ever work on their tan alone or with a girlfriend until they get a trick and be home by dark. You'll see some rare jems who only ever seem to show up on the beach. These girls almost exclusively arrange their chairs and carpas with Tony. You'll see him greet them and you'll see him setting them up in a carpa almost as if he is the un-disputed pimp of these girls.

The problem with Tony is that because he's one of the few who speaks english and has a rep for getting girls he specializes in attracting and fleecing un suspecting newbie gringos. It's painful and embarrassing watching all the regulars and the vendors snikering and laughing at some new gringo buying lunches and coconut drinks for hookers in a tony tent and Tony laughing at them behind their backs with his gold riddled grin.

A self-respecting veteran of Cartagena in my humble opinion owes it to himself and the reputation of other gringos in the know and he MUST say "FuK U tony number 1! No tent no drinks but DO send over your girls! "

Remember, we're all in this together.

Tom Power

Malodr
10-28-08, 23:24
A self-respecting veteran of Cartagena in my humble opinion owes it to himself and the reputation of other gringos in the know and he MUST say "FuK U tony number 1! No tent no drinks but DO send over your girls! "

Remember, we're all in this together.

Tom PowerMy friend started me on that as well as we walked by, we said fuck you Tony!

Hilltopper
10-29-08, 00:36
I'm in Cartagena now and just left Tony on la playa on a rainy later afternoon. Put me in the camp that likes Tony, but does not especially enjoy the hassle of correcting his accounting and math almost every time.

Tony, at least with me, typically over counts the number of beers, etc. , and wants to inflate the price to include the amount of propina he needs for the day. If he's had a good day with many customers, he typically doesn't attempt to extract a grossly inflated amount. Conversely, when he's not made what he needs for the day, he usually comes up with an amount that is about double I'm ready to give him.

For example, today he quotes me 80 mil when I had about 40 mil in my mind, including tip. He re-cites what I had, overcounting and inflating the price to arrive at his 80 mil. I hand him 50 mil and tell him he made mucho propina off me today. By my count, he probably got around 20 mil propina from me today on the 50 mil.

I do know that Tony then gives his "runners" some dinero for bringing the beers, etc. , and then pays for the beers, chairs, etc. He makes his cut for providing the service and putting you in the middle of the action.

I agree that Tony will walk up to any chica that you are interested in, including chicas he's never seen before and more times than not, the chica is then sitting next to you within 5-10 minutes.

So I ended-up tipping Tony less than $10 bucks. It really isn't all that bad, it's just the hassle of arriving at the end result that can be a turn off. I didn't have to get-up for anything, except the occasional trip to drain the weasel.

When I want something, it is brought to me pronto. Where I come from, that type of service deserves tipping. Again, it's the just the way Tony attempts to determine what his tip should be from me on any given day that becomes daily ritual that I have to hurdle.

I've told him on more than one occassion that he'd be better off giving me the true count of items and price and let me add-on his tip. This past Saturday I went as far as telling him that if he kept insisting on his price for the day, I'd pay it and never, ever give him another dime. That day he quoted me 110 mil and I walked him thru several times what I had times the price. We settled at 68 mil.

His attempt at an extra 42 mil from the start is again the hassle. I think most of us prefer to pay the true price and then add-on what we are willing to tip. Yes, I know that it typically comes down to only $10-$20 that we're talking about, but when you go the la playa 10 or so days during a two week stay in Cartagena, it can add up to several extra sessions with the chicas, LOL.

I'm here for another week and will probably see Tony tomorrow, LOL. Let me know if you have any words you want me to pass on to him. Other than "fok u". I'm just not much for shouting out F-bombs in public, regardless of whether the people around me speak English or not.

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LocoGringo
10-29-08, 01:45
I have known Tony for 8 years. Let's see, he is a pimp, hustles, uses chicas, lies, speaks some English and has no embarrassment when asking for money or asking a chica to suck your dick. He is laughable, prdictable and probably has an IQ of 85-90. He has pissed me off for being so greedy and acts like a hardened ***** most of the time. If he gets your phone # he will call you all day and occasionally show up at your apartment if you do not make it clear that it will result in you going elsewhere.

The good news is that he sometimes gets chicas that are both new and outstanding! If you expect him to be anything but what I have said you need to learn the story of the scorpion and the turtle. He is surviving by being a PIMP, hated but who isn't looking for the best *****s, ahhh, models. He can be funny and yet obnoxious 1 minute later. I admit, 10-20, 000 pesos isn't a big deal to me, not looking to do the low cost thing. Anyway, life goes on and there is always a price to be paid for pussy. The cheapest pussy in Colombia is what you pay for and let go, imho. Those that are "regular" are often like the sweet things in America in the end.

A few Tony samples (and Tony):

Mule69
10-29-08, 05:13
I've spent a lot of time camped out near Mamma Rosa's fruit stand which to those of you in the know is where they have the hooker tent. The hooker tent is where the massage girls and street walkers who religiously work playa hollywood hang out. These girls are usually locals, and not so mint, . But usually very cheap. There are pretty much two types of higher calibre hookers that show up from noon or so on. The ones who work dolce vita and are lookin for an extra trick or to take another shot at the retarted idiot who got drunk and threw his money around with them last night (me). The other type are girls who for some strange reason only work the beach, . They'll come in from barranquilla or where ever work on their tan alone or with a girlfriend until they get a trick and be home by dark. You'll see some rare jems who only ever seem to show up on the beach. These girls almost exclusively arrange their chairs and carpas with Tony. You'll see him greet them and you'll see him setting them up in a carpa almost as if he is the un-disputed pimp of these girls.

The problem with Tony is that because he's one of the few who speaks english and has a rep for getting girls he specializes in attracting and fleecing un suspecting newbie gringos. It's painful and embarrassing watching all the regulars and the vendors snikering and laughing at some new gringo buying lunches and coconut drinks for hookers in a tony tent and Tony laughing at them behind their backs with his gold riddled grin.

A self-respecting veteran of Cartagena in my humble opinion owes it to himself and the reputation of other gringos in the know and he MUST say "FuK U tony number 1! No tent no drinks but DO send over your girls! "

Remember, we're all in this together.

Tom PowerThis is the reality.You are the joke when you rent his carpas.Once was enough for me

Bornran
10-29-08, 14:43
Back in nyc

Had a great time.

Thanks for all the behind the scenes input.

Stayed in juans apt. That is one honest guy I overpaid him a couple of hundred without realizing and he shows up at my apt with the cash.

Thanks board for all the up to date info, helped make a hell of a vacation.

Misterm
10-29-08, 14:46
I have known Tony for 8 years.

A few Tony samples (and Tony):Hey LocoGringo,

Was the pic, a pic of Tony. If so I keep an eye out for him in my need when I'm in Colombia.

Otiers
10-29-08, 22:55
I have known Tony for 5 years and it amazes me how he remembered my name a year after my first time there. He even remembered my wife's name. I take Tony as he comes: all BS. That is why I pack my own beer for the beach, but I do rent carpas from him because he will keep an eye out for your things while you go to water.

Tony has set me up with some really great girls and he even tried to set me up with another while my eight year old step-son was with me. I think I am more worried about pissing off Momma Rosa.

Tony is all that everyone says and I think that is the allure of Cartagena. A character such as Tony is like the cousin that would come around after getting released from lock-up.

LocoGringo
10-30-08, 02:15
That's him. Keep one hand on your wallet and try not to reason with him. Just tell him what you want and give him what is fair. He will ***** but that is what pimps and *****s do, hmmmmmm, some gringoes too.

Hilltopper
10-30-08, 19:35
A big thank you to Phunluv who pointed out that there is a commercial area in the old city. I just spent 3 days with a non-pro who arrived on Monday from Monteria. She didn't bring a bathing suit with here, so when it came time to outfit her for a day at la playa, I made inquiry with a local amiga as to how to find the commercial area in the old city. Here's how it went:

Taxi each way 5 mil pesos = 10 mil

Bathing Suit. 20 mil pesos

2 wraps to cover-up her bathing suit while walking to & fro la playa = 12 mil

Flip-flops for la play = 5 mil

A hat to wear at la playa = 8 mil

Total 55 mil pesos and a good experience for me of shopping with the regular folks. This non-pro was extremely happy with everything. We walked through 6 or 7 different shops and she picked out what she wanted. Even negotiated off the tagged price at one of the shops.

Again, thank you, thank you, thank you for the information---without it I probably would have ended-up shopping in Boca Grande or at the mall and spending a couple hundred mil pesos more.

World Travel 69
10-31-08, 07:32
I guess you did not use the List.

Oh Well, I guess I just wasted hours of time doing that for you.

If I am wrong tell me.

Did you go anywhere?

Please fill in the Blanks!

At least did you eat at any good restaurants?

Malodr
11-01-08, 00:35
I guess you did not use the List.

Oh Well, I guess I just wasted hours of time doing that for you.

If I am wrong tell me.

Did you go anywhere?

Please fill in the Blanks!

At least did you eat at any good restaurants?No list is a waste of time.

Member #4258
11-01-08, 01:26
I am a very experienced monger with conversational spanish skills who will be in Cartagena for the first time from November 20th thru the 28th. Please feel free to PM me if you are going to be in town and want to get together to hit the circuit.Hey guy,

I"m arriving on Nov 27 first time.

Wouldn't mind buying you a couple 10 beers for an update on the action.

Hoser

Member #3435
11-01-08, 17:02
A big thank you to Phunluv who pointed out that there is a commercial area in the old city. I just spent 3 days with a non-pro who arrived on Monday from Monteria. She didn't bring a bathing suit with here, so when it came time to outfit her for a day at la playa, I made inquiry with a local amiga as to how to find the commercial area in the old city. Here's how it went:

Taxi each way 5 mil pesos = 10 mil

Bathing Suit. 20 mil pesos

2 wraps to cover-up her bathing suit while walking to & fro la playa = 12 mil

Flip-flops for la play = 5 mil

A hat to wear at la playa = 8 mil

Total 55 mil pesos and a good experience for me of shopping with the regular folks. This non-pro was extremely happy with everything. We walked through 6 or 7 different shops and she picked out what she wanted. Even negotiated off the tagged price at one of the shops.

Again, thank you, thank you, thank you for the information---without it I probably would have ended-up shopping in Boca Grande or at the mall and spending a couple hundred mil pesos more.Very reasonable. I would have no problem doing that for a nice chica and have done so often. In my case, I've bought many a hat to compliment an outfit for pro & non-pro dates over the years.

It also reflects nicely IMO, on your chica that she was saitisfied & didn't attempt to milk it. Just keep your guard up in future in case she flips.

The shopping experience can fun too.

Schwmm

Member #4258
11-02-08, 16:01
Anyone know if the Hilton is chica friendly?

Puerto La Cruz
11-03-08, 03:40
If I trusted her I would just given her enough for all that and gone and sat at a place and drank some rum and watch the ass walk by. Of course, the ass at the bikini stores could have been better!

Lammtarra
11-03-08, 17:29
Hello guys,

Anyone knows if this hotel is GF?

Or anwyay, how does it work in Colombia?

Any trouble to take girls up into room?

I wonder that just because I experienced some troubles after 5 pm in Mexico in a couple of Hiltons and in some Holiday Inns.

Thanx!

Player2
11-03-08, 19:14
Hi Guys:

Can somebody rate top 5 casas and top 5 mp's of CTG.

Thanks,

Player2

Tom Power
11-03-08, 21:48
I only know from experience of a friend who was in the hilton in 2007, definitely not chica friendly, The caribe hotel is chica friendly but it was $40.00 thats alot of dough. Better just get an apartment.

Mule69
11-04-08, 04:10
Hello guys,

Anyone knows if this hotel is GF?

Or anwyay, how does it work in Colombia?

Any trouble to take girls up into room?

I wonder that just because I experienced some troubles after 5 pm in Mexico in a couple of Hiltons and in some Holiday Inns.

Thanx!I stayed there one night when Juan couldn't accomdate my last nights stay back in 06.I was able to get a puta in but they make it uncomfortable.If it is subtle and the girl looks normal it is possible,Come back at 2am with a mini skirted,no panties,silicone sister from LDV.

Good Luck!

Black Page
11-05-08, 00:14
On my last night in Cartagena I was escorting Alejandra back to my place for a one last fling, when who should we cross paths with but Yudi? I'm so weak, how could I resist? I had to have them both.

DBSorry to repeat. As I asked in my previous post

785426

I kindly ask if anybody of you knows Alejandra. Her photos were posted by DB

760467

I am going back to CTG next month. She kept on writing me for months, swearing that she left the profession, but these photos say something different LOL.

Before meeting her, I'd like to know if she is still hanging out all nights at LDV, Tu Candela, or other clubs, etc., or if she spends afternoons at Tony's beach.

Dont misunderstand me. I am not an inquisitor! I respect her and her choices. I am a monger and I am not looking for a gf in CTG. This is just to tune my behaviour and mental attitude if I meet her.

Thanks a lot!

Bonhead
11-06-08, 13:43
Buddy,

Just come to terms with the fact that your novia that you have been sending pesos to is still whoring. I'm sure it hurts the ego, but that's life. You see pictures of her here, so obviously she is still plying her wares in CTG. Either deal with it, or find the a new hoe.


Sorry to repeat. As I asked in my previous post

785426

I kindly ask if anybody of you knows Alejandra. Her photos were posted by DB

760467

I am going back to CTG next month. She kept on writing me for months, swearing that she left the profession, but these photos say something different LOL.

Before meeting her, I'd like to know if she is still hanging out all nights at LDV, Tu Candela, or other clubs, etc., or if she spends afternoons at Tony's beach.

Dont misunderstand me. I am not an inquisitor! I respect her and her choices. I am a monger and I am not looking for a gf in CTG. This is just to tune my behaviour and mental attitude if I meet her.

Thanks a lot!

MJG Dogs
11-06-08, 17:56
Buddy,

Just come to terms with the fact that your novia that you have been sending pesos to is still whoring. I'm sure it hurts the ego, but that's life. You see pictures of her here, so obviously she is still plying her wares in CTG. Either deal with it, or find the a new hoe.

I could have not said it any better myself.

Hilltopper
11-07-08, 00:37
I went back through the photos of Alejandra and I'm fairly certain (95%+) that I saw her en la playa this past Monday. She was with some other chicas, one of whom I know (in the Biblical sense), sharing a carpa in Hollywood from Tony. Their carpa was next to mine.

I cannot tell you if she was "working" or just enjoying a nice day at the beach with amigas. All I can tell you is that she was with girls who I know work LDV and that she was not with a guy (their were no guys at their carpa). I did not speak with her, only the normal eye contact to share a smile and acknowledge that I found her attractive.

Looks like a sweet chica with a good attitude. Have fun!


Sorry to repeat. As I asked in my previous post

785426

I kindly ask if anybody of you knows Alejandra. Her photos were posted by DB

760467

I am going back to CTG next month. She kept on writing me for months, swearing that she left the profession, but these photos say something different LOL.

Before meeting her, I'd like to know if she is still hanging out all nights at LDV, Tu Candela, or other clubs, etc., or if she spends afternoons at Tony's beach.

Dont misunderstand me. I am not an inquisitor! I respect her and her choices. I am a monger and I am not looking for a gf in CTG. This is just to tune my behaviour and mental attitude if I meet her.

Thanks a lot!

Malodr
11-07-08, 01:13
Buddy,

Just come to terms with the fact that your novia that you have been sending pesos to is still whoring. I'm sure it hurts the ego, but that's life. You see pictures of her here, so obviously she is still plying her wares in CTG. Either deal with it, or find the a new hoe.You need to understand that there are special guys out there, better than you and me and they make hookers want to stop working.

Hilltopper
11-07-08, 02:17
Had a great 13 nights in Cartagena, spending time with both pros, semi-pros and non-pros.

I can report the following:

Still plenty of SW action in Laguito and Boca Grande for 50k. 100k for short time. The hassle (at least for me) will be if you befriend a SW (say alba, sandra, monica, claudia, etc.), they will want to be with you every late afternoon/early evening they see you walking, and when they don't see you they'll go as far as having your building's security guy ring your room up to see if you'd like their company.

LDV: a couple of nights were 50+ chicas and other nights 25+ chicas. Plenty of chicas to choose from to suit various tastes. Not all that many guys the nights I was there---at max maybe 10-12 guys on a night when there were 50+ chicas.

I took the same chica home from LDV on three different nights for TLN. Nice 20-year old with good looks, personality and attitude. Good GFE. Stayed entire night and next morning each time, including breakfast. Money never mentioned, I just gently placed 150-180 mil pesos folded-up into her hand or pocketbook each time as she was leaving. She never counted it in front of me and we never spoke about money anytime together.

I realize you can't do that with every chica you meet in a place like LDV, but I try my best to pick-out that type of chica for a GFE experience. The first sign I get that I've come upon a chica who is all about the money, I'm looking for an out to the conversation. I know that it is more-times-than not best to establish price upfront for most everything you do in Cartagena, but I somehow have been able to do well with meeting chicas who never mention it and who typically never count what I give them in front of me.

Now with a SW, I establish an agreed upon price. They are strictly ST lays---no GFE. They are also a little rougher around the edges and are about their business. I have a total different mindset going in when dealing with a SW than I do with a girl I meet at say LDV, Electra, Tu Candela, etc, for TLN.

Electra: My first visit to Electra was this trip, even though I've been to Cartagena 6 times in the past year. I went two different nights. Each night was during the week and each night they turned on the lights and called it closing time around 4 am. One night there were 30 or so chicas and the other night around 15-20. Some were from LDV and others were not.

I liked Electra and felt comfortable there. The first night I went with the chica I met at LDV, the other night I went on my own. The night I went on my own I met a beauty who I brought back for TLN. She ended-up giving me a fantastic night/morning. Espectacular, LOL. Stayed until 3 in the afternoon and then came back that night same night to stay the night again.

Probably the most fun 2 nights of sex in every position and on every piece of furniture or up against the wall that I've had in a long, long time. All with a complete GF experience, including jokes, laughs, learning about each other's background, likes, dislikes, etc.

If I wasn't such a seasoned monger, my ass would have fell-in-love. Or maybe I did, LOL. Maybe that explains why I've already visited Spirit's web site looking for another fare sale.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Black Page
11-07-08, 10:33
Buddy,

Just come to terms with the fact that your novia that you have been sending pesos to is still whoring. I'm sure it hurts the ego, but that's life.
ROFL!
You misunderstood me. I never sent money, neither she is my novia.
So why I ask?
I get different satisfaction if I make sex with a girl from LDV, or with a semi-pro GFE, or with a girl that does it for free (regardless from the fact that she did it for money time before), or with a pro-girl that takes money from others but does it for free with me (grin).
I'll be in CTG for 3 days only. I need all info to select my company and spend my short time at best. I may look cynical, but I want to be efficient.

PS: MALODR,
yes I liked to think that she stopped working and started to study instead...

Black Page
11-07-08, 10:43
I went back through the photos of Alejandra and I'm fairly certain (95%+) that I saw her en la playa this past Monday.

(......)
I did not speak with her, only the normal eye contact to share a smile and acknowledge that I found her attractive. Looks like a sweet chica with a good attitude. Have fun!Thanks!

You got the spirit of my question (previous two posters did not, but I thank them anyway for caring about it).

By the way, I do recommend this girl. She is not only very pretty, but she is a sex machine too. She enjoys it. I guess that, once she discovered that she can also get money from something she likes, she cannot stop it (grin).

Member #4258
11-08-08, 15:26
Can someone explain:

Calenas, Paises, and Costenas..........any more?

I think that Calenas are from Cali but I"m not sure how about the others.

Much appreciated.

Hoser

Member #4258
11-09-08, 01:59
Hello guys,

Anyone knows if this hotel is GF?

Or anwyay, how does it work in Colombia?

Any trouble to take girls up into room?

I wonder that just because I experienced some troubles after 5 pm in Mexico in a couple of Hiltons and in some Holiday Inns.

Thanx!What city in Mexico? In know the Sheraton in Monterrey is pretty much the only major hotel that doesn't care what you drag in. Usually Marriotts don't interfere but from what I hear Holiday Inn's can be a problem (even in Thailand! ). Hilton's are hit and miss. From the feedback I have now, I'm cancelling the Hilton.

Hoser

Hilltopper
11-09-08, 13:19
Smoke, went to send you a PM, but came back that you don't have private messaging. I booked another trip to Carta and arrive on the 20th as well. Let me know if you get PM access and we can meet up for a beer, etc.


I am a very experienced monger with conversational spanish skills who will be in Cartagena for the first time from November 20th thru the 28th. Please feel free to PM me if you are going to be in town and want to get together to hit the circuit.

Hilltopper
11-09-08, 13:40
Player2, check out the list World Travel has put together on the Cartagena Lists thread.

My hunch is that many here who visit Cartagena don't do the casas and mp's. Instead, we get our fill from the beach, discos and walking around bumping into to friendly chicas at various places.

My favoriites would be:

For daytime/late afternoon to early evening fun: 1. La Playa, Hollywood to be exact; 2. Street scene in Laguito and the main drag in Boca Grande.

Nighttime/TLN: 1. La Dolce Vita; 2. Electra; 3. Tu Candela

Oh yeah, I visited a buddy who was staying in 703 Playa Mar last week. You'll be fine in that buidling and apartamento. You'll have a private bedroom, kitchen and living area, a balcony overlooking the water, internet access, and working appliances, a/c, etc. Just make sure you bend at least one chica over out on the balcony, LOL.

You will also want to spend at least one late afternoon to early evening sippin' on a few cold ones out in front of Playa Mar. Just pull yourself a seat up on the concrete ledge there and take it all in for a couple of hours. Befriend Jim while out there and pick-up some valuable info. Say Hi to alba, sandra, claudia, monica, etc. , as they saunter by giving you the eye, LOL.

Happy hunting and have fun!


Hi Guys:

Can somebody rate top 5 casas and top 5 mp's of CTG.

Thanks,

Player2

Player2
11-09-08, 19:28
Player2, check out the list World Travel has put together on the Cartagena Lists thread.

My hunch is that many here who visit Cartagena don't do the casas and mp's. Instead, we get our fill from the beach, discos and walking around bumping into to friendly chicas at various places.

My favoriites would be:

For daytime/late afternoon to early evening fun: 1. La Playa, Hollywood to be exact; 2. Street scene in Laguito and the main drag in Boca Grande.

Nighttime/TLN: 1. La Dolce Vita; 2. Electra; 3. Tu Candela

Oh yeah, I visited a buddy who was staying in 703 Playa Mar last week. You'll be fine in that buidling and apartamento. You'll have a private bedroom, kitchen and living area, a balcony overlooking the water, internet access, and working appliances, a/c, etc. Just make sure you bend at least one chica over out on the balcony, LOL.

You will also want to spend at least one late afternoon to early evening sippin' on a few cold ones out in front of Playa Mar. Just pull yourself a seat up on the concrete ledge there and take it all in for a couple of hours. Befriend Jim while out there and pick-up some valuable info. Say Hi to alba, sandra, claudia, monica, etc. , as they saunter by giving you the eye, LOL.

Happy hunting and have fun!Hi Hill:

Thanks for the reply. What is La playa , Hollywood?

Thanks for the tip on bending over on the balcony LOL.

Who is Jim?

Thanks again.

Player2

Tom 33
11-10-08, 15:06
Can someone explain:

Calenas, Paises, and Costenas. Any more?

I think that Calenas are from Cali but I"m not sure how about the others.

Much appreciated.

HoserPaisas are people who live in the greater Antioquia area. Antioquia is the "State(Departamento)" that Medellín is in. Costeńos are people who live along the Caribbean coast including those from CTG, BAQ, and SM. Rolos are from Bogotá.

Smoke
11-11-08, 01:17
Hilltopper,

That's weird. Let's meet at Riquissimos at noon on the 11/20. I will be wearing a blue shirt that says Argentina.

Smoke

Mule69
11-11-08, 06:48
Hi Guys:

What is the dress code like in CTG.

Will there be any problem wearing a Rolex in CTG.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Player2Being it is a beach(Laguito) shorts are cool in the day. Night time wear long pants. Leave the Rolex home.

MJG Dogs
11-11-08, 06:59
Hey you can always buy a fake one on Avenida San Martin in Bocagrande.

Also, leave the Tony Lama butch ostrich boots at the Del Rey also.

Papuas
11-11-08, 09:00
Hey guys,

Your advice is needed: would it be possible to rent apartment in boca grande or laguito for 2 month (starting from the end of january) for 600-700 US$ per month? (from what I read here, it looks like 700us$ is too little for Cartagena, but still want to check)

Also what is the going ST/TLN rate?

Your input is greatly appreciated.

Papuas

Tom 33
11-11-08, 11:10
Hi Guys:

What is the dress code like in CTG.

Will there be any problem wearing a Rolex in CTG.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Player2Do not bring a Rolex to Colombia-period.

CTG is a very hot tourist town. Wear whatever you like. Most government offices and some better clubs on weekend nights will not let you in wearing shorts.

Hilltopper
11-11-08, 12:00
Smoke,

My flight does not arrive until 1:30 pm on the 20th. The safe bet is to meet sometime around 3 pm that day. I'd like to head on over to the beach to relax and to check out the chicas. As you probably know, 3. 5 pm in the afternoon is prime for scouting en la playa.

Riquissimos is fine by me to meet (mi apartamento es en Laguito), but at that time of day you may have already ventured out elsewhere. If you'd still like to meet-up around 3 or so, just let me know. I know Laguito y la playa fairly well, so just whatever works best.

Hilltopper


Hilltopper,

That's weird. Let's meet at Riquissimos at noon on the 11/20. I will be wearing a blue shirt that says Argentina.

Smoke

Hilltopper
11-11-08, 12:51
La playa = the beach en Espanol.

"Hollywood" is a busy (at least on weekends, holidays, etc.) section of the beach. It's pretty much lays on the Soutwest point of Boca Grande. It is where the infamous Tony (or as he says, Tony Number 1) plys his trade.

From your building (Playa Mar), head Northwest (opposite direction of the Hilton), pass Riquissimos, stay to the left of the police station, pass the shops and La Perla Casino on your right, and the street will run you into the Hotel Dann. Turn left down that side street and you'll run into a 2-story restaurant on your left and a one story restaurant on your right. Turn right onto the beaten path just in front of the one-story restaurant on your right. Walk down the beaten path past the rocks on to the beach. Keep walking down the beach about 150 yards or so. You're in Hollywood.

Others may like to stay to the right of the Police Station, pass La Perla Casino on your left, pass the Loco Gringo on your right, pass the road in front of La Perla Casino and then enter on your left at the first beach side road entrance (just past a little bus waiting spot). Proceed directly toward the beach/ocean. As you walk onto the beach, angle to your left as you head toward the water. You're in Hollywood.

Be prepared for the onslaught of vendors whose job is to ease you of your dinero. Go back through older posts on this thread to learn the going-rate for items such as beers, chairs, carpas, etc. Also remember that everything is negotiable and 99 times out of 100 the first price you receive is grossly inflated (hey, they have to try, just in case you take it hook, line and sinker).

Jim is a seasoned veteran of your building from Florida who is a valuable source for information and speaks from first-hand experience. He's a good guy who is approachable, with a friendly demeanor.

You can find more information about all of the above from earlier posts in this thread. You'll even see mention of the concrete ledge out in front of Playa Mar---look for a post from Tom33 where he mentions that he and Jim have referred to it as their office. Since your staying in that building, I'd take advantage of the comforts of that concrete ledge at least on one early evening (say between 5.7) to take-in the street scene that passes by.

Have fun!


Hi Hill:

Thanks for the reply. What is La playa , Hollywood?

Thanks for the tip on bending over on the balcony LOL.

Who is Jim?

Thanks again.

Player2

Hilltopper
11-11-08, 13:02
I can only tell you what I wear, which is shorts during the day for all outdoor activities. Cartagena is often hot and very humid. If I am going out in the evening, I'll wear trousers or jeans with a nice short-sleeve shirt.

I'd leave the Rolex at home. If you want to wear a watch, bring one you bought for $20. No need to draw any unnecessary attention to yourself. There are people who make it their vocation to ease you from your money, they already will think you are well-off. Do you want them to think you are mega-loaded?

Remember that this is the Carribean Coast of Colombia, where time and promptness aren't quite as important. My motto, slow down, relax and don't worry about the time. It's a vacation.

Have fun!


Hi Guys:

What is the dress code like in CTG.

Will there be any problem wearing a Rolex in CTG.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Player2

Ricker
11-11-08, 13:51
Hi Guys:

What is the dress code like in CTG.

Will there be any problem wearing a Rolex in CTG.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Player2Black tie is the norm.

Rolex watches, gold chains, lots of fine jewelry, and of course lots of cash ... they love that there in Cartagena.

The NEW Colombia, glad I got a taste of the old.

Sorry, couldn't help it.

Member #3437
11-11-08, 15:26
Hahahaha.

Precious.


Hi Guys:

What is the dress code like in CTG.

Will there be any problem wearing a Rolex in CTG.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Player2

Marzon
11-11-08, 19:08
This is the best laugh I've had all week.common sense is a lost virtue. Buy a nice fake Rolex and some guys may roll you. Nasty irony.

It was so fucking hot every day in Cartegena I took at least 4 showers day, so don't wear a wool suit or it will fell like NYC subway platform in August. How any body would want to live in that oven all year round is beyond me, but it is much nicer than NYC.

Player read the threads. All the info is there.

Steeda3519
11-12-08, 00:35
I am a CRT Costa Rican mongering vet, however I am looking to expand my mongering opportunities to Colombia. I am unsure about where to go in Colombia. I have heard good things about CTG. I am looking for a nice place to stay, perhaps a private condo that is Chica friendly on the beach. This will be my first trip to Colombia so any advice will be apprieciated. Is mongering as simple in Col as in CR. It seems as though many of you target the non pros and the locals. My stay will be short and I do not have time to be romancing the stone.

Thanks,

Fellow mongerer.

UrbanWildlife
11-12-08, 04:01
I am a CRT Costa Rican mongering vet, however I am looking to expand my mongering opportunities to Colombia. I am unsure about where to go in Colombia. I have heard good things about CTG. I am looking for a nice place to stay, perhaps a private condo that is Chica friendly on the beach. This will be my first trip to Colombia so any advice will be apprieciated. Is mongering as simple in Col as in CR. It seems as though many of you target the non pros and the locals. My stay will be short and I do not have time to be romancing the stone.

Thanks,

Fellow mongerer.Go read the Medellin thread, and enjoy all beauty of the paises. This question you have has been debated over and over on here, so I do not think you are going to get a big response, especially since you are part of the Costa Rica invasion. Medellin would be a great place for you with all its casas e.t.c. It is also quite abit cheaper than Cartagena. If you are going to Colombia I highly suggest you learn spanish if you do not know it at all. Despite what others might say, spanish is ESSENTIAL if you are interested in the non-pro scene in Colombia. English is very rarely spoken. You might also want to consider going to Panama if you do not have spanish speaking skills, or even the Dominican, as both of these places have more english speaking people, and both are much more secure than Colombia. Just my personal opinion from having spent time in all three of these countries.

Smoke
11-12-08, 04:22
Hilltopper,

Sounds good, let's meet at .....

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Goga Fung
11-12-08, 05:10
What is the dress code like in CTG.I'll be in CTG the same weekend as Player2. It's my first time there, I've been to Curacao many times, I think the dress code is similar - Money and Condoms:)

I believe this weekend there will be final days for Miss Colombia 2008 (la reina nacional). Does anybody know how to get there, it looks like it is held in the Centro de Convenciones Cartagena de Indias. Do you know how to get tickets and how/where to meet Miss Colombia, or at least some of the Miss wannabees?;)

I was reading some Colombian websites, they do not say much.

One Colombian girl wrote to me that now is a really good time to go there.
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ahora mismo esta de fiesta...fiesta de independencia y tambien estar eligiendo la reina nacional, quien representara a colobmia en mis universo...asi que te encantar y debes ir preparado para una buena rumba (fiesta)
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So, Player2, we should have great time there!

RagingBeast
11-12-08, 06:09
Hey All,

I have been a long time member of ISG and love it as it is information at its best.
My usual trip is Rio but this year after reading so many great things about Cartagena I am adding a few days there onto the end of my Rio trip.

I will be going to rio first for 7-10 days and catching Cartagena on my way back to ATL.

I am planning on 12-3-08 to 12-10-08 in Rio and 12-10-08 to 12-14-08 in Cartagena.
Planning time is short for the Cartagena portion of my trip so some help would be very greatly appreiciated and rewarded with a couple of cold ones if you are down there when I come through.

So heres what I need to know:

I always stay at apartments and would like to do so again here but I would also like it to be on the beach or very close I hear Juan has some any good ones you guys know of to suit my needs as listed above?

Also how far would this area be from the city action?

The beach action from what I have read here is pretty good but mixed reviews of Tony and his policies so are there any other good beach spots for good local action?

Also I understand COP and the currency conversion but what is MIL?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Ricker
11-12-08, 13:13
... If you are going to Colombia I highly suggest you learn spanish if you do not know it at all. Despite what others might say, spanish is ESSENTIAL if you are interested in the non-pro scene in Colombia. English is very rarely spoken. You might also want to consider going to Panama if you do not have spanish speaking skills, or even the Dominican, as both of these places have more english speaking people, and both are much more secure than Colombia. Just my personal opinion from having spent time in all three of these countries.Good advice here.

For non-pros, like Urban says, speaking spanish is ESSENTIAL.

As as far as with the pros, the spanish adds more than you can imagine to the experience with them.

You can be just another dumb gringo to them, or can have fun with them and turn your time into a nice GFE.

Good luck

World Travel 69
11-12-08, 14:56
It is a long way from the chicas you can get in Rio.

It is also not the safest way to get chicas.

Sorry to say LDV is the only place where you can meet a chica and do not have to worry toooo much about your things.

If you meet one on the beach go to a short time hotel. Such as the one near the Hotel Playa. See the List. Updates coming shortly.


Hey All,

I have been a long time member of ISG and love it as it is information at its best.
My usual trip is Rio but this year after reading so many great things about Cartagena I am adding a few days there onto the end of my Rio trip.

I will be going to rio first for 7-10 days and catching Cartagena on my way back to ATL.

I am planning on 12-3-08 to 12-10-08 in Rio and 12-10-08 to 12-14-08 in Cartagena.
Planning time is short for the Cartagena portion of my trip so some help would be very greatly appreiciated and rewarded with a couple of cold ones if you are down there when I come through.

So heres what I need to know:

I always stay at apartments and would like to do so again here but I would also like it to be on the beach or very close I hear Juan has some any good ones you guys know of to suit my needs as listed above?

Also how far would this area be from the city action?

The beach action from what I have read here is pretty good but mixed reviews of Tony and his policies so are there any other good beach spots for good local action?

Also I understand COP and the currency conversion but what is MIL?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Hilltopper
11-13-08, 12:45
RagingBeast,

It is my belief that any apartamento in Laguito you get through either Juan or Mery will suit your needs. They will be either oceanfront or on the other side of a relatively narrow street (with a lagoon on the backside).

Laguito is a 10 minute taxi ride to the el centro and the historic district. The cost = 5 mil pesos. The mil = a thousand, so that 2 mil pesos would be 2,000 pesos, 5 mil pesos would be 5,000 pesos, etc. The mil is not an abbreviation for million, as 2 million pesos would be 2,000,000.

You can be successful in scouting areas on the beach just South and to the North of where Tony reigns. That being said, Tony's not that bad and I can echo other's comments that he does come-up with some gems.

You can also do as some others do---don't get beers, etc., from him, but do scout Hollywod and let him know that you'd appreciate him letting you know if he comes across something that fits your parameters. Let him know what you like (for instance, flacco or morena. etc.), and eventually you'll be looking at something you can't resist.


Hey All,

I have been a long time member of ISG and love it as it is information at its best.
My usual trip is Rio but this year after reading so many great things about Cartagena I am adding a few days there onto the end of my Rio trip.

I will be going to rio first for 7-10 days and catching Cartagena on my way back to ATL.

I am planning on 12-3-08 to 12-10-08 in Rio and 12-10-08 to 12-14-08 in Cartagena.

Planning time is short for the Cartagena portion of my trip so some help would be very greatly appreiciated and rewarded with a couple of cold ones if you are down there when I come through.

So heres what I need to know:

I always stay at apartments and would like to do so again here but I would also like it to be on the beach or very close I hear Juan has some any good ones you guys know of to suit my needs as listed above?

Also how far would this area be from the city action?

The beach action from what I have read here is pretty good but mixed reviews of Tony and his policies so are there any other good beach spots for good local action?

Also I understand COP and the currency conversion but what is MIL?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Hilltopper
11-13-08, 15:23
Smoke,

I'll see you at ......

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RagingBeast
11-13-08, 23:02
Hilltopper,

Thank you very much for the information you cleared up alot of important things for my trip.

I know in Rio right now is very busy and hard to find a apartment is this the same with CTG right now and is this area atleast relatively safe I have travelled alot across south america by myself and never had a problem but you keep hearing things about safety in CTG.

Thanks again and if you are there when I come down drinks are on me :)


RagingBeast,

It is my belief that any apartamento in Laguito you get through either Juan or Mery will suit your needs. They will be either oceanfront or on the other side of a relatively narrow street (with a lagoon on the backside).

Laguito is a 10 minute taxi ride to the el centro and the historic district. The cost = 5 mil pesos. The mil = a thousand, so that 2 mil pesos would be 2,000 pesos, 5 mil pesos would be 5,000 pesos, etc. The mil is not an abbreviation for million, as 2 million pesos would be 2,000,000.

You can be successful in scouting areas on the beach just South and to the North of where Tony reigns. That being said, Tony's not that bad and I can echo other's comments that he does come-up with some gems.

You can also do as some others do---don't get beers, etc., from him, but do scout Hollywod and let him know that you'd appreciate him letting you know if he comes across something that fits your parameters. Let him know what you like (for instance, flacco or morena. etc.), and eventually you'll be looking at something you can't resist.

John Gault
11-14-08, 04:10
Only have two days in CTG as I go to BAQ to see the Novia.

Many visitors here as the beauty pagent runs till Sunday.

Staying at the Conquetator and at the outdoor bar across the street I took Cloudia and Sandra for a nice BBBJ experence. As my wingman had the apt. Tied up I went to their place at the Atlantis Apts. That was a trip as There were 4 other girls already there running around half naked. As far as money I could not nail down a set price with them so they said to give them what I thought they were worth at the finish. To me that is always good news since they will always work hard to earn. The amount I paid was 80K each and since the dollar is so strong it didn't hurt to much. I don't know about you guys but I am in heaven when I am getting a BBBJ while the other girl is kissing me all over. Cloudia is the hotter one of the two but Sandra trys very hard to please.

After that I went to LDV and I must admit in the past I have not really liked CTG but I am starting to like it more as I keep returning. Many 9s there and also many mongers. This place was jumping and now I must put it ahead of TR in Lima for that kind of experence.

O yeah also went to the Playa and Tony had some decent talent there. They asked around 160K but I passed on that.

I have to save some leche for the Novia.

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Tom 33
11-14-08, 13:19
Hilltopper,

Thank you very much for the information you cleared up alot of important things for my trip.

I know in Rio right now is very busy and hard to find a apartment is this the same with CTG right now and is this area atleast relatively safe I have travelled alot across south america by myself and never had a problem but you keep hearing things about safety in CTG.

Thanks again and if you are there when I come down drinks are on me :)From 11/18 to 12/15 apartments are easy to find. The tourist zone in Cartagena is very safe.

Mule69
11-15-08, 04:58
I'll be back from 11/27-12/15.Anyone around I'll be at the Playa Mar.Heres a couple of pics I'm sure all the vets will know!

Mule

Hilltopper
11-16-08, 14:01
Raging,

You're welcome. I believe in trying to giving back to the "community", LOL.

While you shouldn't have any problem finding an apartamento in Laguito during that time, I would't wait any longer to get one reserved. I know guys who have rented from Juan and have been happy, and myself and several buddies have rented from Mery without a hitch. It is my belief that you won't go wrong going through either one.

I can echo what Tom33 said---I've found the safety issue to be fine in Laguito, Boco Grande, the old city and Castillo Grande. I've also hung out with locals in Manga and the restaurant/bar district in Gestemani at night without problem, but haven't ventured off solo in those two areas.

I've been through other areas while in a taxi that I don't believe are in my best interest to walk around-in at night and one area that felt a little edgy at night even while in a taxi. But I can say that about any city in the World that I've been in with a population over a million and even most much smaller.

My first ever trip, I stuck to the tourist zones Tom33 mentioned. I didn't know anybody and spoke a fraction of the Spanish I stumble through with now.

All that being said, I've found good common sense is always called for. Whether here in the city where I live or while travelling. As the old American Express commercial said. "don't leave home without it. "

Have fun!


Hilltopper,

Thank you very much for the information you cleared up alot of important things for my trip.

I know in Rio right now is very busy and hard to find a apartment is this the same with CTG right now and is this area atleast relatively safe I have travelled alot across south america by myself and never had a problem but you keep hearing things about safety in CTG.

Thanks again and if you are there when I come down drinks are on me :)

Hilltopper
11-16-08, 17:00
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Member #3435
11-16-08, 18:13
I'll be back from 11/27-12/15.Anyone around I'll be at the Playa Mar.Heres a couple of pics I'm sure all the vets will know!

MuleNice set of pix. I've stayed there. It was nice and affordable.

The girl pic is great. How was she? Any more pix of her?

Thanks,

Schwmm

Malodr
11-17-08, 01:24
Not trying to rain on your parade, but.

As long as you're certain that you aren't passing anything on to a 19-year old Colombiana that has a full life ahead of her. Or the young ladies who follow each other in your encounters. There's always at least the other person to be considered in that equation.Did you know that every chica barebacks with her Colombian novio? They start fucking at 16 so who is passing what to who?

World Travel 69
11-17-08, 01:41
Here are a few pics from the Pageant. Sorry I did not get better ones. I did not like the head band either. It ends on Wednesday according to the schedule.

These Colombians are fanatics about the Pageant.

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11-17-08, 04:09
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Madd Love
11-17-08, 14:12
Is there a taxi or bus to take from Bogata to Cartagena?

Goga Fung
11-18-08, 04:52
Here are also some pics form Miss Colombia in Cartagena.

World Travel, thank you for the tips in PM. For the final events they were sold out (I called them), you gotta buy tickets in advance. But it turned out that it is still possible to get in.

I talked to some local guys hanging out next to the Hilton, they were selling tickets for 200K(original price 150K).

The major event is tonight(monday) in the Convention center, the price is 200K, they are also "sold out", but those guys said you can still get in. But tonight the dress code is everything white - white short and pants, so I did no go.

In general Cartagena is nice but is too touristy.

Tom 33
11-18-08, 06:00
Is there a taxi or bus to take from Bogata to Cartagena?The bus takes around 16 hours if there are no problems. A taxi would cost more than a plane.

Good luck.

Vector313
11-18-08, 14:59
Is there a taxi or bus to take from Bogata to Cartagena?Umm unless you want to get abducted by the FARC, I would advise against traveling any other way than plane when going from city to city in Columbia.

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11-18-08, 15:02
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Madd Love
11-18-08, 17:18
The bus takes around 16 hours if there are no problems. A taxi would cost more than a plane.

Good luck.Thanks for the info.

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11-19-08, 04:55
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Player2
11-20-08, 02:59
Hi Guys,

Thank you every body for making my first trip to Colombia (CTG) wonderful.

I will be making more posts in the up coming days.

I want you to be careful on one thing in LDV, make sure when you accept 150 that means pesos not US $$.Most of the girls were more than fine but one girl, she was from baranquilla, usually wears shocking color satin cloth clothes and sits at the end near ladies rest room, she accepted 80k pesos for 1 hour and after the deed she said it was US $ 80.00. I ended up her giving a little more pesos (no big deal) but she is getting a bad reputation. Her real first name starts with D and last name with M, I checked her ID.

Again THANK YOU ALL for making my trip nice.

Player2

P.S: I did ended up at the beach with Tony. Just use common sense around him.

Black Page
11-20-08, 15:38
Umm unless you want to get abducted by the FARC, I would advise against traveling any other way than plane when going from city to city in Columbia.ROFL!

Yes, true, and when you are in the CTG airport, do not take a taxi (they may kidnap you!), but hire a private car from the tourist agency booking well ahead! And do not stay in a hotel in El Centro, neither go there day or night, but stay at Hilton, just walk only daytime in Bocagrande, and do not go to any other club than LDV!
It's guaranteed you will have a good time and a good taste of real Cartagena...

Seriously speaking, what you write is not only disrespectful towards Colombia, but shows also little knowledge of facts. Read the post of Tungurahua about safety issues in Colombia, or just try to have some local friends. Normal people takes buses and nobody is kidnapped. The route between Bog and Ctg is a normal route, also very interesting for a tourist. FARC and bandits are in the remote jungle.

PS: however, I dont recommend 22 hours of bus! Take a flight! :-)

World Travel 69
11-21-08, 08:50
Did you not read my post about the taxies from the airport?

Not to worry.

BP, right do not take any taxi off the street.

Read what we did. No problem.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=812262&postcount=361


ROFL!

Yes, true, and when you are in the CTG airport, do not take a taxi (they may kidnap you!), but hire a private car from the tourist agency booking well ahead! And do not stay in a hotel in El Centro, neither go there day or night, but stay at Hilton, just walk only daytime in Bocagrande, and do not go to any other club than LDV!
It's guaranteed you will have a good time and a good taste of real Cartagena...

Seriously speaking, what you write is not only disrespectful towards Colombia, but shows also little knowledge of facts. Read the post of Tungurahua about safety issues in Colombia, or just try to have some local friends. Normal people takes buses and nobody is kidnapped. The route between Bog and Ctg is a normal route, also very interesting for a tourist. FARC and bandits are in the remote jungle.

PS: however, I dont recommend 22 hours of bus! Take a flight! :-)

Tom 33
11-21-08, 10:31
ROFL!

Yes, true, and when you are in the CTG airport, do not take a taxi (they may kidnap you!), but hire a private car from the tourist agency booking well ahead! And do not stay in a hotel in El Centro, neither go there day or night, but stay at Hilton, just walk only daytime in Bocagrande, and do not go to any other club than LDV!
It's guaranteed you will have a good time and a good taste of real Cartagena...

Seriously speaking, what you write is not only disrespectful towards Colombia, but shows also little knowledge of facts. Read the post of Tungurahua about safety issues in Colombia, or just try to have some local friends. Normal people takes buses and nobody is kidnapped. The route between Bog and Ctg is a normal route, also very interesting for a tourist. FARC and bandits are in the remote jungle.

PS: however, I dont recommend 22 hours of bus! Take a flight! :-)Vector's statement was a little over the top, but your rose-colored glasses don't do any favors, either.

Taxis aren't dangerous in the tourist zone in Cartagena. But, when you try to expand that to all of Colombia, you are wrong. A friend was kidnapped by a taxista coming in from Rionegro in Medellín. Why do you suppose that natives call for taxis outside of the tourist zone? Why was I warned by Colombian friends about city buses being robbed in Cartagena recently? Why did my Paisa novia warn me to be careful at any ATM?

The FARC has been weakened, but they are far from gone. And you have the remnants of the AUC reorganizing. And then there are the gangs.

Natives know what to look for, we do not except maybe for Tung. The vast majority of readers here do not have Tung's experience. They ought to continue to be very careful. And avoiding bus travel between cities is prudent.

Mule69
11-21-08, 18:23
The truth is you should never become complacent,even in Laguito.I use caution in Cartagena and have never had a problem....Medellin was a different story my 3 friends were robbed at gunpoint last April in Poblado in broad daylight.I stayed behind that day as they walked to Olevida mall and were robbed by a guy on the back of a moto.Just because it has not happened yet do not believe that Colombia is now a safe place, at the least certain areas are very dangerous.Tom33 lives there and his advice is well taken.What happened at the Medellin Mansion should tell you that tourists are targets and someday you might be unlucky.It can happen anywhere,anytime!


Vector's statement was a little over the top, but your rose-colored glasses don't do any favors, either.

Taxis aren't dangerous in the tourist zone in Cartagena. But, when you try to expand that to all of Colombia, you are wrong. A friend was kidnapped by a taxista coming in from Rionegro in Medellín. Why do you suppose that natives call for taxis outside of the tourist zone? Why was I warned by Colombian friends about city buses being robbed in Cartagena recently? Why did my Paisa novia warn me to be careful at any ATM?

The FARC has been weakened, but they are far from gone. And you have the remnants of the AUC reorganizing. And then there are the gangs.

Natives know what to look for, we do not except maybe for Tung. The vast majority of readers here do not have Tung's experience. They ought to continue to be very careful. And avoiding bus travel between cities is prudent.

Member #4258
11-22-08, 00:10
What's the odds of a very obvious gringo sucessfully driving in a rental car from CTG to Caracas? Would I have any problems on the way? I speak only the most basic spanish.

Hoser

Tom 33
11-22-08, 13:37
What's the odds of a very obvious gringo sucessfully driving in a rental car from CTG to Caracas? Would I have any problems on the way? I speak only the most basic spanish.

HoserSlim and none. And I think that Slim just left.

Ricker
11-22-08, 15:24
What's the odds of a very obvious gringo sucessfully driving in a rental car from CTG to Caracas? Would I have any problems on the way? I speak only the most basic spanish.

HoserMan that's a long drive, and irregardless of Colombia, Venezuela is not exactly the friendliest and safest place to be driving, especially for a non-espanol speaking, obvious gringo, driving thru the no man's land between Maracaibo and Caracas.

Venezuela, the government, isn't exactly gringo friendly like Colombia.

I've had my share of trouble with unfriendly officials there.

Good luck.

John Gault
11-22-08, 18:35
What's the odds of a very obvious gringo sucessfully driving in a rental car from CTG to Caracas? Would I have any problems on the way? I speak only the most basic spanish.

HoserSounds like a death wish.

Dodger Bulldog
11-22-08, 19:16
Sorry to say LDV is the only place where you can meet a chica and do not have to worry toooo much about your things.

If you meet one on the beach go to a short time hotel. Such as the one near the Hotel Playa. See the List. Updates coming shortly.In my experience, I saw pretty much the same chicas working the beach during the day that I saw in LDV at night.

Jelly Donut
11-23-08, 15:12
What's the odds of a very obvious gringo sucessfully driving in a rental car from CTG to Caracas? Would I have any problems on the way? I speak only the most basic spanish.

HoserAside from concuring with the guys who think this is a bad idea, I'm wondering why you want to do this? Are you are interested in checking things out along the way, as a classic motor tourist?

You could rent a car and check out many places along the Colombian coast, with more safety than would have been possible, say, just a few years ago. However, there are some problematic places along the way and if you are traveling alone with little knowledge of Spanish, you are taking on some significant additional risk. If you break down in Cienga, it's not the same thing as breaking down in Santa Marta.

There are some great people and safe places to hang out between Cartagena and Rioacha, and I know at least one operator who could tour you around La Guajira, some of the Colombian coast is fantastic and worth checking out before it becomes over developed - there are streches of beaches on the far side of the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta - just really wonderful natural stuff. But there are a lot of armed and desperate people out there.

Risky. And more so toward the border.

If I had to drive, I guess I'd try to befriend vacationing Venezuelans in Cartagena and head back across the border with them. Not sure if you could work that social engineering; esp. without Spanish. But, really, that's not much of a plan.

So, if your just trying to get to Caracas take a plane.

Here's a report which covers a different part of Colombia, but gives you a sense of what parts of the country can be like; be mindful that unlike this dude you don't speak much Spanish and it sounds like you can't "implement the pakman".....

"That one-second of eye-contact refined my take on Colombia"
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=740398#post740398

Black Page
11-23-08, 15:59
Did you not read my post about the taxies from the airport?Not to worry.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=812262&postcount=361
Yes, I read it. But I think that maybe you misunderstood my reply post to that tourist?
I wrote that if you pay 70k COP for a taxi in CTG, then the driver fooled you.
(I was talking to the guy off from the cruise boot)
I know how much a taxi costs in CTG: 5k for short rides like Bocagrande-Centro.


BP, right do not take any taxi off the street.
Read what we did. No problem.
I spent overall more or less 20-25 days in 4 times I went to Colombia (visited Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena). Overall, during my stays, I maybe took 50-100 taxies from the street, day and night (till 4am or so). (I am estimating about 2-3-4 taxi rides per day)
I never had a problem, except some overcharge (or attempt to overcharge me), neither anyone of people I knew had problems.

I don't say it is impossible to be robbed. I just say it must be not so common as it seems reading some posts here.

Black Page
11-23-08, 16:07
Vector's statement was a little over the top, but your rose-colored glasses don't do any favors, either.

Taxis aren't dangerous in the tourist zone in Cartagena. But, when you try to expand that to all of Colombia, you are wrong. A friend was kidnapped by a taxista coming in from Rionegro in Medellín. Why do you suppose that natives call for taxis outside of the tourist zone? Why was I warned by Colombian friends about city buses being robbed in Cartagena recently? Why did my Paisa novia warn me to be careful at any ATM?
The FARC has been weakened, but they are far from gone. And you have the remnants of the AUC reorganizing. And then there are the gangs.
Natives know what to look for, we do not except maybe for Tung. The vast majority of readers here do not have Tung's experience. They ought to continue to be very careful. And avoiding bus travel between cities is prudent.Tom, I think your post is very balanced and I agree with you.
Rose-colored glasses may be dangerous. I was actually speaking about taxies in cities, not outside.
Besides that, you are right. Most readers here are not so experienced as Tung. Therefore, I invite everyone to be not naif when travelling abroad (that is, places where you are not used to).
I believe that the most dangerous places I visited in my last 5 years were not in Colombia but in USA (e.g., East St. Louis, crossed by car at night. I would NEVER go there on foot! Not to mention many areas in Washington DC, etc. etc.), but shit happens, so better be too prudent than sorry.

Member #4258
11-23-08, 23:10
Aside from concuring with the guys who think this is a bad idea, I'm wondering why you want to do this? Are you are interested in checking things out along the way, as a classic motor tourist?

So, if your just trying to get to Caracas take a plane.Thanks guys,

I guess it's no route 66. I had met some Venezuelan ladies in Curacao and they invited me to Caracas. I'd better fly. I hear even the airport is dangerous in Caracas!
Hoser

MJG Dogs
11-24-08, 05:08
The officials in the airport in Caracas try to extort money from Americans and are nasty little fuckers, as is the majority of the Venezuelan people

Player2
11-24-08, 16:23
I bought 2 bottles of Scotch from Panama airport on my way to CTG. I made sure at the duty free that I am allowed to take 5 one litre bottles.

On my arrival the CTG customs stopped me and after checking my bag he opened my duty free bag and (I don't speak spanish) with customs officers body language and word uno, I know he is telling me that I am allowed one bottle. And with my body language and a little loud voice I demanded to see a supervisor and within one second he let me go with a fear in his voice.

Goga Fung
11-24-08, 18:36
The officials in the airport in Caracas try to extort money from Americans and are nasty little fuckers, as is the majority of the Venezuelan peopleDoes not sound good, but everything is relative. Probably their salary is not high enough to make a living. This "extortion" and bribing is "normal" in some countries, for example in the FSU. When you have a family with kids there is no other way to feed them.

And if you compare to how money are taken from people in the USA, Venezuela sounds like a joke. Did you lose $100K-200K or more in Venezuela? Maybe they a little fuckers, but in USA people get fucked big time by big fuckers. It's interesting when you hear complains from guys of losing extra $50 in "3rd world countries" but at he same time they give out voluntarily $100K's to some real jerks in their homeland. I've given out more than enough.

Mule69
11-25-08, 23:28
Sitting at Riquisimos today and who do I see walking by looking for gringos. Tony! With the constant rain Hollywood playa is deserted. The roads are washed out all over Ctg. Guess Tony took it to the streets looking for clients. Same old same old at LDV. Wish it would stop raining! The flooding in all Colombia is terrible, many are suffering. Hopefully tommorow the sun will come out.

Mule

Tom 33
11-26-08, 09:40
Sitting at Riquisimos today and who do I see walking by looking for gringos. Tony! With the constant rain Hollywood playa is deserted. The roads are washed out all over Ctg. Guess Tony took it to the streets looking for clients. Same old same old at LDV. Wish it would stop raining! The flooding in all Colombia is terrible, many are suffering. Hopefully tommorow the sun will come out.

MuleOctober is the worst month of the year for rain in Cartagena. Sometimes that spills over into November. Usually by the middle of December the rains stop until April or May.

I remember a couple of years ago wading down the streets of Laguito in water above my knees.

The rain in general has been difficult for the whole country over the last several years. Those landslides in the mountains are horrendous.

Tom 33
11-26-08, 09:45
All,

I'm a long time ISG subscriber and am very appreciative of all the useful information dispensed throughout this website. I'm heading to Colombia in late December/early January and will be traveling with a group of 5 buddies. Each of us are in our early 30's. It goes without saying that we're looking to have the best time possible. We have an apartment rented in Castillo Grande during the nights of December 28. January 2.

I've mongered throughout the world and I'm no stranger to the trade. However, there are some very experienced mongers on this thread and I'm hoping to get some feedback on how we should go about maximizing our time in Cartagena. If you had only 5 days/nights in the city, how would you spend it?

Where do we find the best beach action?

Should we arrange to hire a guide?

Is our mongering time best spent in the casas or in the discos?

Any idea where we should party on New Year's Eve?

Are there things you've done in the past that you might have done differently if given the chance?

Any useful info you care to share is certainly appreciated. Additionally, if you plan to be around during the time that we're there I'd be happy to hoist a pint with you.You hit the peak of the busiest season. There will be parties and people all over. All beaches will be packed. All clubs will be packed. Don't bother with a guide. I wouldn't waste time in any casa. If you can't score by midnight, head over to the LDV.

Hilltopper
11-26-08, 19:27
Lol. After you saw him walk by, he stopped by the building where I stay and had building security ring me up. I went downstairs and joked around with him a little. Of course, he hadn't eaten and hadn't made any money all day. Nor much for several days. So you know he asked, and for the first time ever I said ok and spotted him 25 mil pesos.

No, I don't expect it back, but given how well I've come to know Tony over the 7 trips in the past 13 months, I do expect to have to remind him when he goes to gouge me, LOL.

Mule, you and I probably bumped into each other yesterday at Riquissimo's. I stood outside smoking a cigar while waiting on my to-go order. We both shared a chuckle over the vendor who wanted to sell you some Winstons, LOL.


Sitting at Riquisimos today and who do I see walking by looking for gringos. Tony! With the constant rain Hollywood playa is deserted. The roads are washed out all over Ctg. Guess Tony took it to the streets looking for clients. Same old same old at LDV. Wish it would stop raining! The flooding in all Colombia is terrible, many are suffering. Hopefully tommorow the sun will come out.

Mule

Malodr
11-26-08, 23:00
Lol. After you saw him walk by, he stopped by the building where I stay and had building security ring me up. I went downstairs and joked around with him a little. Of course, he hadn't eaten and hadn't made any money all day. Nor much for several days. So you know he asked, and for the first time ever I said ok and spotted him 25 mil pesos.

No, I don't expect it back, but given how well I've come to know Tony over the 7 trips in the past 13 months, I do expect to have to remind him when he goes to gouge me, LOL.

Mule, you and I probably bumped into each other yesterday at Riquissimo's. I stood outside smoking a cigar while waiting on my to-go order. We both shared a chuckle over the vendor who wanted to sell you some Winstons, LOL.Fuck Tony, he has plenty of money in his matress from ripping off tourists.

Anonymous
11-26-08, 23:30
Just came back last week from Cartagena. Great place. Best bet is go to 'La Dolca Vita' nightclub---affectionately know as the Office, any time after 10 pm or better still 11. 00pm to 1. 00 am and you will have at least 50 or more Chicas to choose from. All types and all prices you can negotiate. Usually np anywhere to go with them. Price about $70 to $100/hr or so or $125 to $150 for the night..--Many taxi drivers speak English but few chicas do. So start learning if you don't know the basics. The beach is good near Hollywood beach sometimes but be careful not to go with anyone to their place let the chica come to you. Also, many vendors on the beach---they will bug you all day if you buy anything from one. Good Luck and enjoy.

Safe place

World Travel 69
11-27-08, 03:45
Before you go, you should watch this. Pay close attention to the last part, about the murder and kidnap rate.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/hugochavez/


Thanks guys,

I guess it's no route 66. I had met some Venezuelan ladies in Curacao and they invited me to Caracas. I'd better fly. I hear even the airport is dangerous in Caracas!
Hoser

Oldthymer
11-27-08, 08:41
You hit the peak of the busiest season. There will be parties and people all over. All beaches will be packed. All clubs will be packed. Don't bother with a guide. I wouldn't waste time in any casa. If you can't score by midnight, head over to the LDV.I understand that we could have timed it better, but it is what it is. Thanks for the feedback.

Lammtarra
11-28-08, 12:32
October is the worst month of the year for rain in Cartagena. Sometimes that spills over into November. Usually by the middle of December the rains stop until April or May.

I remember a couple of years ago wading down the streets of Laguito in water above my knees.

The rain in general has been difficult for the whole country over the last several years. Those landslides in the mountains are horrendous.3 days ago in CTG rain was unstoppable and tons of water made my day.

taxis could not get me to Hilton : the arroyo there was not a laguito but a big lake..they said to wait and to take opposite direction,but i was amazed with it and i did it myself...i walked into it and water was above my knees.

Wet experience but I had fun entering the Hilton : i was pouring water wherever.

Oldthymer
11-29-08, 17:20
You hit the peak of the busiest season. There will be parties and people all over. All beaches will be packed. All clubs will be packed. Don't bother with a guide. I wouldn't waste time in any casa. If you can't score by midnight, head over to the LDV.Thanks Tom

Oldthymer
11-29-08, 17:22
I will be back in CTG in 2 weeks and I am sure I will have information to update my reports of the last year

658579

If things did not change much, these reports may help you to begin.Very helpful, thanks

Oldthymer
11-29-08, 17:36
Just came back last week from Cartagena. Great place. Best bet is go to 'La Dolca Vita' nightclub---affectionately know as the Office, any time after 10 pm or better still 11. 00pm to 1. 00 am and you will have at least 50 or more Chicas to choose from. All types and all prices you can negotiate. Usually np anywhere to go with them. Price about $70 to $100/hr or so or $125 to $150 for the night..--Many taxi drivers speak English but few chicas do. So start learning if you don't know the basics. The beach is good near Hollywood beach sometimes but be careful not to go with anyone to their place let the chica come to you. Also, many vendors on the beach---they will bug you all day if you buy anything from one. Good Luck and enjoy. Safe place

Tank Not Mt

Ps you can also check out WT69's List--he knows his stuff.Sounds great, thanks for the feedback

Cachorro
11-30-08, 17:35
At LDV and Elektra I'm still paying 100k (about $45) for short time. Occasionally stretch to 150k for the very hottest or sought after girls in the club. (As we all know, the very hottest are usually not the same ones who are going to deliver you the best overall experience.)

In a nutshell, tell the girl what your plan and offer is. Make sure she knows the experience will not be problematic.

Spell out the specifics, for example: "We'll go to my apartment on this same street, drink vodka or rum or gaseosa as you like, you can smoke a joint, I want you to stay an hour and a half, after that I will personally escort you to Elektra a bit after 3am, but I will leave you there as I don't want to go in. " The more you take the unknowns out of the equation, the happier she'll be to agree to a basic price.


Just came back last week from Cartagena. Great place. Best bet is go to 'La Dolca Vita' nightclub---affectionately know as the Office, any time after 10 pm or better still 11. 00pm to 1. 00 am and you will have at least 50 or more Chicas to choose from. All types and all prices you can negotiate. Usually np anywhere to go with them. Price about $70 to $100/hr or so or $125 to $150 for the night..--Many taxi drivers speak English but few chicas do. So start learning if you don't know the basics. The beach is good near Hollywood beach sometimes but be careful not to go with anyone to their place let the chica come to you. Also, many vendors on the beach---they will bug you all day if you buy anything from one. Good Luck and enjoy. Safe place

Tank Not Mt

Brian82
12-01-08, 20:26
Hi fellas,

I'm in Cartagena now, I will go to Santa Marta tomorrow and I'm looking for action. Anyone who could share good connections? Chicas? Apartment? Or want to get out for a drink and chasing?

I'm easygoing person, not cheap but no big spender either. I love to have fun and love chicas with good personalities and bubble butts.

Write email to [Email address deleted by Admin]

Thanks and cheers!

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Lammtarra
12-02-08, 13:17
Hi fellas,

I'm in Cartagena now, I will go to Santa Marta tomorrow and I'm looking for action. Anyone who could share good connections? Chicas? Apartment? Or want to get out for a drink and chasing?

I'm easygoing person, not cheap but no big spender either. I love to have fun and love chicas with good personalities and bubble butts.

Write email to [Email address deleted by Admin]

Thanks and cheers!

EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited to remove email addresses in the text. Please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. Thanks!What I suggest is to take a girl with you from CTG to Sta Marta;I have been to Sta Marta and action was -IMHO- quite poor or anyway not comparable with CTG.

Dirty Willy
12-02-08, 16:04
Spell out the specifics, for example: "We'll go to my apartment on this same street, drink vodka or rum or gaseosa as you like, you can smoke a joint, I want you to stay an hour and a half, after that I will personally escort you to Elektra a bit after 3am, but I will leave you there as I don't want to go in. " The more you take the unknowns out of the equation, the happier she'll be to agree to a basic price.This was good advice.

I was in LDV last night and had a nice conversation with a woman from Cali (how do you call them, I know it´s not Calientes, though that would seem logical and would be funny). I offered 100K and she said fine. I told her no problem to burn a J in my place, which she did. Nice experience. She stayed a couple hours before heading off to Electra. I´ll probably take her to the islands tomorrow.

First woman I talked to named Dana, I asked how much. She said 200K for a short time and then asked a little later how much I wanted to pay. I said 100K. It was really more of a general answer and I think if she had said OK, I probably would have said ´I want to pay 100, but not for you´. The woman from Cali was prettier anyway.

Dirty Willy
12-02-08, 16:05
Anyone have information on the ST hotels listed in World Travellers list?

Specifically prices, locations and if they have jacuzzis.

Thank you kindly.

DWW

Manizales911
12-02-08, 20:50
Anyone know any english spoken drivers in Cartagena?Name is Guillermo. Two celulars 300-842-9888, 316-539-5264. Knows a LOT of chicas and speaks perfect english. Tell him Tom and Mike said "Hi"

UrbanWildlife
12-02-08, 21:18
What I suggest is to take a girl with you from CTG to Sta Marta;I have been to Sta Marta and action was -IMHO- quite poor or anyway not comparable with CTG.Thank you for your post Lammtarra as it supports exactly what I was saying in the Santa Marta thread, when uncle doc bill was claiming that Santa Marta/Rodadero was a mongering destination, more so than even Cartagena. He definitely must have been smoking something, or old age is taking its toll on him. Also thanks Vic Pics for the pm echoing my sentiments on Santa Marta/Rodadero.

Tom 33
12-02-08, 23:49
Just wanted to warn you that every time I went to El Muelle and ordered Fillet Del Mar or the other main dish I enjoyed my dinner until I got back to my apartment and then it was diarrhea city! This has been the past 5 times.

I do not have the same problem at Riquessimos. Unfortunately there is no ocean view from this restaurant.I had a similar experience there 5 or 6 years ago. I have not eaten there since. And I lived in Laguito for 4 years.

Try the restaurant across the street. It is a little pricey but you get the ocean view and no stomach problems.

Lammtarra
12-03-08, 15:14
This was good advice.

I was in LDV last night and had a nice conversation with a woman from Cali (how do you call them, I know it´s not Calientes, though that would seem logical and would be funny). I offered 100K and she said fine. I told her no problem to burn a J in my place, which she did. Nice experience. She stayed a couple hours before heading off to Electra. I´ll probably take her to the islands tomorrow.

First woman I talked to named Dana, I asked how much. She said 200K for a short time and then asked a little later how much I wanted to pay. I said 100K. It was really more of a general answer and I think if she had said OK, I probably would have said ´I want to pay 100, but not for you´. The woman from Cali was prettier anyway.Girls from Cali are called "caleńas"

Brian82
12-03-08, 17:33
Hi Brian, I'm currently in Cartagena as well looking for basically the same stuff, but you can't be contacted by private message. If you sign up for a premium account feel free to contact me.Hola amigo,

Just tell me a name of restaurant and time, friday or saturday, and will be there and buy you a drink.

Cheers!

Black Page
12-05-08, 14:52
Just wanted to warn you that every time I went to El Muelle and ordered Fillet Del Mar or the other main dish I enjoyed my dinner until I got back to my apartment and then it was diarrhea city! This has been the past 5 times.
You mean you tried 5 times, all times with same result, and you kept on returning there? I guess this fillet must have very good taste, at least.

Motor Oil
12-06-08, 00:32
Thanks for your interest in further delving into my diarhea.Now, this is what I call a SHITTY post :D

Black Page
12-06-08, 02:02
I said I enjoyed the dinner. I like the view, the fact that there are no vendors on the second level, and also the taste of the food. The problem is either their sanitation or the food being breaded and fried. Thanks for your interest in further delving into my diarhea. OK sorry. I was joking.

However, I am now in Cartagena. Finally! After so long I waited that. I went there today, by chance. El Muelle is the restaurant where a guy from Cartagena took me for dinner one year ago. It was a business trip, so I guess El Muelle has a good reputation. I had some fish and no problems later. There are better places to go, however.

Black Page
12-06-08, 02:10
I take this opportunity to express my feeling about this.

I really do not understand why most of the readers of this forum stick to stay in Bocagrande, even for eating.

All places in Bocagrande are very touristic, too expensive compared to quality. They mostly remind me fast-food places.

I really recommend everybody,even if they have a room in Bocagrande, to take a taxi to El Centro (5000$, no more!) and enjoy the good atmosphere of the place. Stroll around and have a good dinner in a good place!

There are outstanding restaurants there. Some very cheap, some very expensive. All good places are there, not in Bocagrande.

I give you just few names:

Vitrola: the most expensive I tried, very formal. You can impress your novia if you take her there. Bill will be >50USD.

Juan Del Mar (San Diego): very good for seafood.

Santisimo (San Diego): very good and good ambient.

So many others!!!! Ask in your hotel, take a taxi, and enjoy life in CTG.

PS: There is an exception in Bocagrande. A small place on the beach, after El Muelle before Hilton, called Dona Marciana. Plastic tables and sits, but you can have a good mojarra frita or langosta for a reasonable price, watching girls on the beach.

Braniac
12-06-08, 04:21
Name is Guillermo. Two celulars 300-842-9888, 316-539-5264. Knows a LOT of chicas and speaks perfect english. Tell him Tom and Mike said "Hi"I'm wondering, what kind of fee does this driver take for introducing you to girls?

Braniac
12-06-08, 04:49
Just wanted to report about my experience about a week ago in Cartagena.

I dropped by LDV aound 1:30 am my first night, and ended up talking to quite a few girls. I found most of them friendly, except for the occasional brat, but in the end, none of them really convinced me.

Around closing time, I was in the outer courtyard, and I approached a girl from Medellin who was with her friend. She was looking quite fine in her tightly fitting dress, and it hugged her beautiful, curvaceous, tan body (although the breasts were fake, they were well-designed).

She was not really responsive in a sexual way (I didn't know if she was tired, or just wasn't into me), but she and her friend agreed to have me sit down and join them at one of the benches, and we had some friendly conversation and a tinto (coffee). After about half an hour, everyone went on their merry way.

The next night, I ran into the same girl at LDV, and she was sitting with her friends. This time she seemed much more energetic and responsive, so I asked her for a dance, and I was actually feeling a connection, so I asked her what she was charging.

She said normally 200, 000 COP, and then asked me what I was willing to pay. I said 100, 000, she counteroffered with 150, 000, but I held firm, and she didn't put up a fight. She said it was because "me caiste bien" (I made a good impression, I guess would be a fair translation).

I didn't bother specifying TLN or short time, since I figured it would either be mutual or not. In the end we had a great time, went for a couple hours but I could not come, for some reason, and then she let me finish off in the morning with another round.

She actually stayed a bit too long for my taste, since it was about 2:30pm by the time she left, and I was getting the feeling she was looking for a chance to steal something.

Since she was in her "puta-wear", she asked if I could call her friend who was staying across the street from me, to bring her a change of "decent" clothing. But it seems like she was really encouraging me to go outside and use the "minute guys" instead of calling from my own phone. Have any of you guys had a similar situation?

When I called from my own phone, I think later she encouraged me to get her some food while we waited (again, hinting that I should leave her in the room alone while I went to get it).

So anyway, overall it was a good experience. I would have liked a little more GFE on her part, but maybe I didn't pay enough for that. =)

But I got the feeling that most girls would have easily gone for 100, 000 COP (around $45 US), as I got that offer more than once. Of course, that was after talking to the girls and flirting with them a bit.

I remember getting a girl for 60, 000 COP a couple years ago. Admittedly, she wasn't the best looking girl, but we had chemistry and she was sexy. That turned out to be a really hot night!

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Dazed Confused
12-07-08, 06:59
Note to readers: Once I started writing my report quickly became very long from all the great memories. So I have decided to post this report in 4 sections.

This is Cartagena Part I. Shortly will follow Part II and then Medellin Parts I and II. Here we go:

I finally made my first trip to Cartagena and Medellin. I have been many places in the world over the last 20 years but this was my first trip to Colombia. I loved the place and it certainly will not be my last trip.

I know that what I am about to write is going to offend some of the money police on the board. When I travel I like to spend money however I see fit. If that offends some of the poor bastards here then all I can say is TOO FUCKING BAD. It is not my fault that other people are poor. The people on here who are offended about other people's spending habits should learn to mind their own fucking business. Some of the posts I read here just totally amaze me. There are people who think they are somehow smart because they can find the cheapest hotel and the most desperate girl. How the hell does this make you smart? I think an intelligent person is someone who knows how to make a good income and can enjoy the greater things in life. Someone who is just getting by, saving nickel after nickel, so he can find a desperate girl in a 3rd world country is just a pathetic excuse for a human being, plain and simple. If such a person was smart he would have money. In American being poor goes hand and hand with being stupid.

That being said I set my spending budget at a couple thousand dollars a day. I know this certainly does not make a big player but it absolutely gave me the time of my life. People who are going to be offended by this should stop reading right now. Yes, I over paid at times. I even gave a couple girls a hundred dollar tip just because I liked their smiles. And you know what, I may even have created some inflation. If I did, good! It makes me happy to see the girls happy. I doubt that means they liked me any more or less than if I gave them only what they asked. However, I am sure they did like me more than some of the complete losers who post about how they spend an hour talking the girl down to the absolute minimal.

I rented a big apartment in Cartagena from a guy named Juan. It was a very comfortable place directly on the ocean. I had arrived fairly early so after I got everything organized I went directly to the beach to see the famous Tony. There were no girls on the beach but Tony said he would call one for 10. 000 pesos. He told me she would want 150. 000 pesos. I told him I just arrived so I wanted a party. I said call as many girls as possible and each would get 100. 000. If I liked them I would keep them longer and pay more. Tony was delighted.

About 30-40 minutes later a blond and two black haired girls arrived on the beach. They were all in the 19-21 age range and although not as beautiful as some of the girls I would later meet in Medellin, they certainly were pretty enough. I paid Tony for the transportation and drinks. I then gave him an extra 50. 000 and told him I wanted him to call me whenever he had an available girl on the beach. Tony was very happy and would provide me with many girls over the next week.

We took a taxi back to the apartment. I picked up a bottle of rum and a couple bottles of wine on the way. Once inside I put on some music and we all had a couple of drinks. My Spanish is not 100% fluent but we had no problem communicating. I asked the girls if they would strip. By this I meant if they would dance to the music. However, they all removed their clothes completely and then started pulling on my clothes. We all sat on the sofa naked, drinking rum and listening to Daddy Yankee. Other than the music it was probably as close to paradise as it gets.

One of the girls got on her knees and started sucking while the two others massaged and kissed me. The three of them would rotate positions for the next 20 minutes all taking turns giving head. These girls were very affectionate and fun to be with. I knew right then and there that I would be spending a lot more time in Colombia.

After I blew my load we all continued listening to music and drinking rum. I learned that two of the girls had children. This surprised me because they did not have hanging stomachs. One of the girls said she had her child when she was 15 so I guess she had sufficient time to get back in shape. I have been with many hookers in many different countries over the years. Yet, these girls did not strike me as hardcore in any sense. They just seemed like friendly girls who needed some way to make a living.

We all went outside and sat in the sun. It was a bit overcast so the sun was not too intense. They were all getting a little drunk by this time and were starting to act a little silly. They all would get on top of me and rub their bodies all over mine. It did not take long before I needed to do them again.

One of the girls went inside to get a condom. When she returned we decided to fuck right there on the patio. The terrace cannot be seen by the other buildings so privacy was not an issue. I laid down on the lawn chair and each girl took a turn riding me. It was one of the best times I have ever had in my life. The girls were fun to be with, friendly, affectionate and knew how to fuck.

After we were done they got dressed and we all talked for another 30 minutes. They asked if I wanted to see them again or if they could come back in the evening for an all niter. I would take them up on their offer a couple days later. But at this moment in time I was feeling tired and wanted to rest. I gave each girl $100 American dollars. I also had some stuffed animals I brought with me that they took with great fanfare. Of course I realize that this was much more than they asked for or expected. But I look at this in a very simple way, they did what they could to make me happy so I did what I could to make them happy. I am sure they need the money a hell of a lot more than I do so I was happy to give it to them. They all gave me a big kiss, their telephone numbers and left.

A few hours later I woke up when Juan arrived. Juan is a very nice guy who seems to be running an honest operation. Juan basically stopped by just to check up with me to see if everything was okay. I told him I was very happy with everything and was enjoying my stay. I asked him if he could call me some girls but he tells me that is not his thing and recommended I go to LDV in the evening.

I went to LDV at around midnight. Lots of hardcore looking girls there with tattoos, a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other. One walked up to me and started talking in English. She looked like she was stoned. Hell, if I wanted a stoned girl with lots of tattoos I would have stayed in the United States. I told her I was just looking and she quickly split.

After a beer I noticed a cute one sitting in the corner. She was talking to a couple of other girls and not paying much attention to the guys. These girls really should learn to be more aggressive like the girls in Brazil. Perhaps the Brazilians can start a hooker school to teach the LDV girls how to approach potential clients.

I went over to talk to her. It felt kind of uncomfortable like approaching a girl at a high school dance when everyone is watching. After chatting for about 15 minutes she told me she wanted 400. 000 pesos for an hour or 800. 000 for all night! Now, I definitely have no problem blowing a few hundred bucks on pussy but I felt she was just trying to rip me off since the other girls in the day time were only expecting 100. 000 pesos. As a result I went on my way but she did manage to get a Red Bull out of me which is very expensive in LDV.

About 15 minutes later a blond short girl walked in the door. She flashed me a smile which was more than the others were doing. I chatted her up for a while and she agreed to 150. 000 pesos for a couple of hours. She said she was from Medellin and that it was her first time in Cartagena. I do not know, or care, if that is true but she had a very nice disposition. She stayed for about two hours as we agreed upon. By this time I had run out of pesos so I gave her a hundred dollar bill for which she was very happy. The exchange houses are paying about 1900 per dollar so she got about a 40. 000 pesos bonus.

In the morning I ate breakfast at Requistemos and then headed to the beach. Tony was on my ass like a fly to shit. He got me a chair and sat me down beside two Americans who he then introduced me to. I have read a lot about the lowlife Americans that have been living in Colombia and was hoping to avoid them all. However, in retrospect it would probably have been hard to avoid all of them since everyone hangs around in the same place. These two would be the first assholes I met on my trip but far from the last.

One was bald, not not from old age, he was one of those guys who either thinks it is cool to shave his head or he cannot afford shampoo. From the way he smelled I would think it is the later. The other one had several tattoos that did not match or form any sort of pattern. Just random images like the skull on his arm to show the world what a tough guy he must be. I thought to myself how lucky I was to be sitting beside Qball and Dr. Danger.

Tony unfortunately introduced me to these two lowlifes. I was stuck sitting beside them on the beach. I wanted to wait for some girls to show up so I could not split and I could not say "well I think I am going to sit somewhere else since you guys are assholes" so I was stuck talking to these assholes for a good hour.

It was like I was back in grade 10 all over. Imagine grown men saying things like "ya-ya, and then I fucked her in the ass" and then doing the Beavis and Butthead laugh together. "ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha. Ya, me too! "

These assholes had lots of stories to tell about their adventures in Colombia. They thought they were big global players since they had been to Colombia several times before. One apparently owns an apartment that he paid $20, 000 USD for and thinks he is a badass investor. Look, spending $20, 000 on an apartment does not make you an investor anywhere in the world. What it makes you is POOR. I have spent more than $20, 000 on a single trip. The word "investor" should only be used when you are talking large sums of cash so people like this really have no need to use this word since they will never have large sums of cash to talk about.

They were happy to give me plenty of useless free advise that I did not ask for. Most of it started with the words "you paid too much" as if somehow my money was their business. They told me how they never paid more than 80. 000 pesos because they were so fucking smart and knew the Colombian "ways" (whatever the fuck that means).

It was painful to listen to them but I was waiting for my girls. Unfortunately, I would meet several more guys like this on my trip. Stingy, cheap, small minded people with little petty ideas of the world. Plus it would seem the second favorite thing to talk about on the beach (next to pussy) is the economy. Guys who cannot afford $50 for a girl giving out free advice on the "global meltdown" and how they would fix it. I could picture them at work announcing over the PA system "attention Wal-Mart Shoppers I am now going to explain how to fix the global economy beside the flashing blue light". (Yes, I loved the term Wal-Mart Gringo when I read it but never imagined at the time I would meet so many! ) Qball certainly could have worked at Wal-Mart but I am not sure Dr. Danger could with all his tattoos. He looked more like someone who worked in a junkyard removing parts off of demolished cars. Ya, Chuck, would you mind getting me the carburetor off the1983 Pontiac when your not fixing the global economy?

Finally, yes, finally showed up two girls from Medellin. They said they worked in the evenings at Isis. I bought them some lunch and we chatted it up for a while. They were very pretty, slender and spoke with nice mannerisms. Qball and Dr. Danger tried to chat them up as well but lacked the Spanish skills to convey much other than "Hola, de donde esta? ". I slipped in a few words to the girls about QB and DD not having lots of money, personality skill or good hygiene, after which the girls pretty much ignored them. After about an hour getting to know one another we went back to the apartment.

These girls were also a lot of fun. We drank, listened to music, danced for several hours. I think by the time they left it was almost 9:00pm. I do not remember everything but there were two bottles of rum gone. I gave them each $200 (yes dollars) which made them very happy. I also got both of their numbers because I planned on calling them again. However, the next day I met a girl who was one of the funnest girls I have ever met anywhere. I did not go out to LDV this night because of all the drinks I had consumed I pretty much crashed out.

Cartagena Part II Coming Tomorrow!

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Ricker
12-07-08, 18:28
...These two would be the first assholes I met on my trip but far from the last.

One was bald, not not from old age, he was one of those guys who either thinks it is cool to shave his head or he cannot afford shampoo. From the way he smelled I would think it is the later. The other one had several tattoos that did not match or form any sort of pattern. Just random images like the skull on his arm to show the world what a tough guy he must be. I thought to myself how lucky I was to be sitting beside Qball and Dr. Danger ...

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.That was funny reading. I think I also met those guys, many times

Though I'm not near as fortunate as you to be able or willing to spend $2000 US per day, I enjoy envisioning the chicas eyes when you shower them with this cash.

I've come to learn that what you pay or what others pay the chicas is only a small part of the equation in the game.

Trying to nickel and dime a chica is low and demeaning I agree, overpaying is another question and it's your decision.

Fortunately not many guys can go on vacation and throw around that kind of money and really inflate the expected prices.

I agree with paying a chica fairly and tipping kindly, as well as treating kindly.

Good luck amigo.

Black Page
12-07-08, 20:05
Mr Confused (nice nick, btw),

there's a difference between being rich and having money.

What I understand from your post is that you wasted lot of money. You meant to offend those you mentioned, but I feel you got the opposite effect. It is not always true that "the more expensive, the better". It would have been embarassing to see such a performance.

A *classy* man with 2000USD/day budget in CTG can really have fun and enjoy life, but it is a matter of targets.

I dont expect to meet such a person at Tony's beach, neither at Riquisimo (check the spelling), neither in the whole Bocagrande area. Sorry, the POOR ones are not those you mention, but those who like to show a big wallet like a big penis.

Some suggestions for a classy, savvy, gourmand connosseur of life in CTG with no problems of budget. It may be useful to someone.

HOTEL: stay in El Centro at Santa Clara, or at any other Boutique 5-star hotels there. They are charming, in colonial style. Choose a suite for >500USD/day. You can feel the atmosphere of the colonial times there. You can enjoy champagne in your suite, with a dream girl that really does not spoils herself with Tony.

RESTAURANTS: forget Bogagrande and Riquisimo. Ask the concierge. In the 50-100USD range, you'll enjoy classy restaurants (for example Vitrola, but not only that one), in a relaxing environment, with high-class tourists and Colombianos. Food in Cartagena can be extremely good.

GIRLS: no, I will not tell you.

Cartagena can be a nice place for rich ones too.


Note to readers: Once I started writing my report quickly became very long from all the great memories. So I have decided to post this report in 4 sections.

This is Cartagena Part I. Shortly will follow Part II and then Medellin Parts I and II. Here we go:
I finally made my first trip to Cartagena and Medellin. I have been many places in the world over the last 20 years but this was my first trip to Colombia. I loved the place and it certainly will not be my last trip.
I know that what I am about to write is going to offend some of the money police on the board. When I travel I like to spend money however I see fit. If that offends some of the poor bastards here then all I can say is TOO FUCKING BAD. It is not my fault that other people are poor. The people on here who are offended about other people's spending habits should learn to mind their own fucking business. Some of the posts I read here just totally amaze me. There are people who think they are somehow smart because they can find the cheapest hotel and the most desperate girl. How the hell does this make you smart? I think an intelligent person is someone who knows how to make a good income and can enjoy the greater things in life. Someone who is just getting by, saving nickel after nickel, so he can find a desperate girl in a 3rd world country is just a pathetic excuse for a human being, plain and simple. If such a person was smart he would have money. In American being poor goes hand and hand with being stupid.
That being said I set my spending budget at a couple thousand dollars a day. I know this certainly does not make a big player but it absolutely gave me the time of my life. People who are going to be offended by this should stop reading right now. Yes, I over paid at times. I even gave a couple girls a hundred dollar tip just because I liked their smiles. And you know what, I may even have created some inflation. If I did, good! It makes me happy to see the girls happy. I doubt that means they liked me any more or less than if I gave them only what they asked. However, I am sure they did like me more than some of the complete losers who post about how they spend an hour talking the girl down to the absolute minimal.
I rented a big apartment in Cartagena from a guy named Juan. It was a very comfortable place directly on the ocean. I had arrived fairly early so after I got everything organized I went directly to the beach to see the famous Tony. There were no girls on the beach but Tony said he would call one for 10. 000 pesos. He told me she would want 150. 000 pesos. I told him I just arrived so I wanted a party. I said call as many girls as possible and each would get 100. 000. If I liked them I would keep them longer and pay more. Tony was delighted.
About 30-40 minutes later a blond and two black haired girls arrived on the beach. They were all in the 19-21 age range and although not as beautiful as some of the girls I would later meet in Medellin, they certainly were pretty enough. I paid Tony for the transportation and drinks. I then gave him an extra 50. 000 and told him I wanted him to call me whenever he had an available girl on the beach. Tony was very happy and would provide me with many girls over the next week.
We took a taxi back to the apartment. I picked up a bottle of rum and a couple bottles of wine on the way. Once inside I put on some music and we all had a couple of drinks. My Spanish is not 100% fluent but we had no problem communicating. I asked the girls if they would strip. By this I meant if they would dance to the music. However, they all removed their clothes completely and then started pulling on my clothes. We all sat on the sofa naked, drinking rum and listening to Daddy Yankee. Other than the music it was probably as close to paradise as it gets.
One of the girls got on her knees and started sucking while the two others massaged and kissed me. The three of them would rotate positions for the next 20 minutes all taking turns giving head. These girls were very affectionate and fun to be with. I knew right then and there that I would be spending a lot more time in Colombia.
After I blew my load we all continued listening to music and drinking rum. I learned that two of the girls had children. This surprised me because they did not have hanging stomachs. One of the girls said she had her child when she was 15 so I guess she had sufficient time to get back in shape. I have been with many hookers in many different countries over the years. Yet, these girls did not strike me as hardcore in any sense. They just seemed like friendly girls who needed some way to make a living.
We all went outside and sat in the sun. It was a bit overcast so the sun was not too intense. They were all getting a little drunk by this time and were starting to act a little silly. They all would get on top of me and rub their bodies all over mine. It did not take long before I needed to do them again.
One of the girls went inside to get a condom. When she returned we decided to fuck right there on the patio. The terrace cannot be seen by the other buildings so privacy was not an issue. I laid down on the lawn chair and each girl took a turn riding me. It was one of the best times I have ever had in my life. The girls were fun to be with, friendly, affectionate and knew how to fuck.
After we were done they got dressed and we all talked for another 30 minutes. They asked if I wanted to see them again or if they could come back in the evening for an all niter. I would take them up on their offer a couple days later. But at this moment in time I was feeling tired and wanted to rest. I gave each girl $100 American dollars. I also had some stuffed animals I brought with me that they took with great fanfare. Of course I realize that this was much more than they asked for or expected. But I look at this in a very simple way, they did what they could to make me happy so I did what I could to make them happy. I am sure they need the money a hell of a lot more than I do so I was happy to give it to them. They all gave me a big kiss, their telephone numbers and left.
A few hours later I woke up when Juan arrived. Juan is a very nice guy who seems to be running an honest operation. Juan basically stopped by just to check up with me to see if everything was okay. I told him I was very happy with everything and was enjoying my stay. I asked him if he could call me some girls but he tells me that is not his thing and recommended I go to LDV in the evening.
I went to LDV at around midnight. Lots of hardcore looking girls there with tattoos, a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other. One walked up to me and started talking in English. She looked like she was stoned. Hell, if I wanted a stoned girl with lots of tattoos I would have stayed in the United States. I told her I was just looking and she quickly split.
After a beer I noticed a cute one sitting in the corner. She was talking to a couple of other girls and not paying much attention to the guys. These girls really should learn to be more aggressive like the girls in Brazil. Perhaps the Brazilians can start a hooker school to teach the LDV girls how to approach potential clients.
I went over to talk to her. It felt kind of uncomfortable like approaching a girl at a high school dance when everyone is watching. After chatting for about 15 minutes she told me she wanted 400. 000 pesos for an hour or 800. 000 for all night! Now, I definitely have no problem blowing a few hundred bucks on pussy but I felt she was just trying to rip me off since the other girls in the day time were only expecting 100. 000 pesos. As a result I went on my way but she did manage to get a Red Bull out of me which is very expensive in LDV.
About 15 minutes later a blond short girl walked in the door. She flashed me a smile which was more than the others were doing. I chatted her up for a while and she agreed to 150. 000 pesos for a couple of hours. She said she was from Medellin and that it was her first time in Cartagena. I do not know, or care, if that is true but she had a very nice disposition. She stayed for about two hours as we agreed upon. By this time I had run out of pesos so I gave her a hundred dollar bill for which she was very happy. The exchange houses are paying about 1900 per dollar so she got about a 40. 000 pesos bonus.
In the morningI ate breakfast at Requistemos and then headed to the beach. Tony was on my ass like a fly to shit. He got me a chair and sat me down beside two Americans who he then introduced me to. I have read a lot about the lowlife Americans that have been living in Colombia and was hoping to avoid them all. However, in retrospect it would probably have been hard to avoid all of them since everyone hangs around in the same place. These two would be the first assholes I met on my trip but far from the last.
One was bald, not not from old age, he was one of those guys who either thinks it is cool to shave his head or he cannot afford shampoo. From the way he smelled I would think it is the later. The other one had several tattoos that did not match or form any sort of pattern. Just random images like the skull on his arm to show the world what a tough guy he must be. I thought to myself how lucky I was to be sitting beside Qball and Dr. Danger.
Tony unfortunately introduced me to these two lowlifes. I was stuck sitting beside them on the beach. I wanted to wait for some girls to show up so I could not split and I could not say "well I think I am going to sit somewhere else since you guys are assholes" so I was stuck talking to these assholes for a good hour.
It was like I was back in grade 10 all over. Imagine grown men saying things like "ya-ya, and then I fucked her in the ass" and then doing the Beavis and Butthead laugh together. "ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha. Ya, me too! "
These assholes had lots of stories to tell about their adventures in Colombia. They thought they were big global players since they had been to Colombia several times before. One apparently owns an apartment that he paid $20, 000 USD for and thinks he is a badass investor. Look, spending $20, 000 on an apartment does not make you an investor anywhere in the world. What it makes you is POOR. I have spent more than $20, 000 on a single trip. The word "investor" should only be used when you are talking large sums of cash so people like this really have no need to use this word since they will never have large sums of cash to talk about.
They were happy to give me plenty of useless free advise that I did not ask for. Most of it started with the words "you paid too much" as if somehow my money was their business. They told me how they never paid more than 80. 000 pesos because they were so fucking smart and knew the Colombian "ways" (whatever the fuck that means).

It was painful to listen to them but I was waiting for my girls. Unfortunately, I would meet several more guys like this on my trip. Stingy, cheap, small minded people with little petty ideas of the world. Plus it would seem the second favorite thing to talk about on the beach (next to pussy) is the economy. Guys who cannot afford $50 for a girl giving out free advice on the "global meltdown" and how they would fix it. I could picture them at work announcing over the PA system "attention Wal-Mart Shoppers I am now going to explain how to fix the global economy beside the flashing blue light". (Yes, I loved the term Wal-Mart Gringo when I read it but never imagined at the time I would meet so many! ) Qball certainly could have worked at Wal-Mart but I am not sure Dr. Danger could with all his tattoos. He looked more like someone who worked in a junkyard removing parts off of demolished cars. Ya, Chuck, would you mind getting me the carburetor off the1983 Pontiac when your not fixing the global economy?

Finally, yes, finally showed up two girls from Medellin. They said they worked in the evenings at Isis. I bought them some lunch and we chatted it up for a while. They were very pretty, slender and spoke with nice mannerisms. Qball and Dr. Danger tried to chat them up as well but lacked the Spanish skills to convey much other than "Hola, de donde esta? ". I slipped in a few words to the girls about QB and DD not having lots of money, personality skill or good hygiene, after which the girls pretty much ignored them. After about an hour getting to know one another we went back to the apartment.

These girls were also a lot of fun. We drank, listened to music, danced for several hours. I think by the time they left it was almost 9:00pm. I do not remember everything but there were two bottles of rum gone. I gave them each $200 (yes dollars) which made them very happy. I also got both of their numbers because I planned on calling them again. However, the next day I met a girl who was one of the funnest girls I have ever met anywhere. I did not go out to LDV this night because of all the drinks I had consumed I pretty much crashed out.

Cartagena Part II Coming Tomorrow!

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Jelly Donut
12-07-08, 22:14
The people on here who are offended about other people's spending habits should learn to mind their own fucking business. Thanks for this post.

I hope you'll give us a chance. It's self-evident that the people posting here are opposed to sumptuary laws, regulations or restrictions. Since the people who post here almost all favor prostitution, it follows that they don't generally see much value in a morality and/or laws which look to reduce things like, say, gambling, alcohol consumption or extravagant expenditures. That's your business.

Beside that, why do you care what we (or a couple of boring dudes on a beach) think? There are plenty of places to go in CTG if you want to avoid a conversation. If you want to avoid most aging gringos and still enjoy time at the beach you could head up to Playa de las Americas. Just getting off the "Hollywood" beach will escape you from most of these conversations.

Sometimes people show up on this strand looking to circuitously plug a specific business. In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with that. There was a guy who was doing this here last year. But it's a bit frustrating, since I like people who just cut to the chase. He could have just come out with "If you got the money, you can avoid some of the hastles of the beach scene and LDV by using the XYZ service, it costs more, but eliminates some bullshit". But I'm disgressing, since you have not done that :)

Anyway, you are a good writer; I'm looking forward to the next installment.

Negrofino
12-08-08, 01:31
Great post Dazed. I travel to Colombia and I have the same arguements with my travel partners. They often chastise me for paying more than they would

It's a matter of choice. It's like deciding what car to drive. Some will use a beeter. Some like classic cars. Some will drive a Hyundai. Some a Mercedes or Toyota. You will arrive at the destination of your choosing. How you get there is up to you.

Dazed enjoys first class. Don't hate the player.

Maple Red
12-08-08, 02:48
Note to readers: Once I started writing my report quickly became very long from all the great memories. So I have decided to post this report in 4 sections.Hi Dazed Confused.

Thanks for the report. Does your $2000/day budget allow for the purchase and use of a camera? It would be nice to see some photos of your great memories!

Look forward to reading your next reports.

Treeshark
12-08-08, 03:12
Any chance you were a TSM member a few years back??

What did you think of the apartment that you stayed at. I am thinking about staying there for awhile on my next trip. Plan to be in CTG for 5 or 6 weeks on a $200/day budget but I can afford the apartment for a few days.

MJG Dogs
12-08-08, 05:35
Club de Pesca- right on the water in the Barrio of Manga for a high end very good meal.

Agree with many others have said before. All in all who really gives a shit how much you spend, how much I spend, how much the smelly guy on the beach with the tats spends.

One week from now nobody will care, have a good trip, fuck them if they don't like what you do.

And yes your an excellent writer, maybe you should teach Basic english at one of the fine state universities here in California. Maybe SDSU

Tjmee
12-08-08, 05:41
For some reason I think dazed confused is total bs. I guess hes trying to make himself feel better, no one spends 2000 dollars a day in Colombia, in the U. S. maybe.

Member #3437
12-08-08, 17:06
The only thing worse than the "Qball and Mr. Danger" types would be this guy, who obviously is a troll. This crap has been posted before in the Medellin section under a different username. Hint: The "wal-mart" reference.

Member #3435
12-09-08, 01:18
For some reason I think dazed confused is total bs. I guess hes trying to make himself feel better, no one spends 2000 dollars a day in Colombia, in the U. S. maybe.I tend to agree with this. On $2000/day and with the life long experience mongering around the world that he claims, why would you even bother with the likes of Tony the tout?

I get by fine on 1/10th that budget and wouldn't even give Tony the tout a second look. My first trip to Ctg he tried befriending me and I just ignored him.

Besides, I saw the chicks he was procurring for other guys. Most were not as hot as I was able to find on my own.

Schwmm

DoloresThomas
12-09-08, 04:00
4.5 million COP a day! you can find the REAL prepagos everybody talks about with that kind of money on a weekly basis. And I mean newcoming TV stars, real top models, beauty pageant contestants and so on.

So: why bother with Tony's hookers when you can take a stroll in the high end horizon? You should just go to any rave in Medellin or Cali, or to the Mansion in Bogota, or even find some high class hair stylist or model agent in any of these cities and ask (confidentially, of course) for the real stuff.

If you're willing to get rid of $10,000 (just 5 days worth of that budget) you sure can get some high class pussy, and take some stunning starlet for a weekend holiday in a lost paradise somewhere far from CTG.

My two cents.

Dazed Confused
12-09-08, 05:50
Cartagena Part II

I crashed out just after the girls left at maybe 9:00pm. I then woke up fairly early, and to my surprise, without a hangover.

Someone had approached me a couple days before about taking a boat trip out to the islands. I decided since it was a nice clear morning I would explore that option. I called up the 3 girls I had the orgy sex with and invited them to come sailing which of course they all quickly agreed on. I then called the guy about the boat tour.

Normally they sell package types of tours where they take groups of people to the islands for a day and come back in the evening. But I never like taking trips with the commoners so I asked if the guy knew about a private boat we could get for the day. A few calls were made and finally I was told to show up at the marina to meet someone I will refer to as Captain Joe.

Captain Joe is an American who has a fairly good sailing boat. He agreed to take me and the girls out all day on the boat for what I thought was a reasonable sum. He asked me not to write about what he charges or who exactly he is for reasons I am also not going to explain. I will say though that Captain Joe is a swell guy.

I got the girls to come directly to the marina and we went a sailing. First thing I did was go down into one of the sleepers and had a blow job contest. Having 3 girls taking turns sucking can really make my day. I blew my load in the blondy's mouth and she swallowed every drop and then licked her lips.

A while later we arrived at an island that had many people on it serving drinks and food. We ate and drank on the island. There were too many people around to do any carnal knowledge activities but it was a lot of fun watching the girls dance in their bikinis.

Joe then suggested we visit a private island that is owned by someone he knows. I was like "wtf, you know a private island why the hell are we here"? ! " So off we went. It took about an hour to get to the island but the place is awesome. It has a small house and its own little beach.

The owner was not on the island but there was a live-in caretaker named Jose. I asked if Jose and Joe could "go sailing" for a couple of hours and leave us all on the island. Jose said he was not allowed to leave the island so I handed him a nice shining $100 note. He almost ran to the boat.

We got our supplies from the boat, some rum, some food, some beach towels and a portable stereo. As soon as the boat was out of site I told the girls that this was now officially a nude beach! We were all naked listening to raggeton and pouring down the rum. There is nothing quite like 3 hot naked Colombianas dancing around drunk on the beach. This memory has been burned into my mind forever.

We had hot orgy sex on the beach then washed off in the ocean. This time the girls did not use condoms. Normally I always do but the moment was too perfect to spoil pulling out a rubber. After blowing two loads I laid down on the beach exhausted. The girls kept drinking and wanting more sex. I am 49 years old and just could not keep up with 3 young Latinas. I laid there in the sand and they all started massaging various parts of my body. To my amazement my tool started to reload after 20 minutes of being massaged by naked drunk Latinas. I was back in business.

While I was screwing them one of the girls said she has a present for me. I asked what it was and they all started laughing. She said the "little one". I was confused because I did not know what she meant. She then said said it more like "I want you to have my little one". I was still a little confused and finally the other girl shouts out "her ass! Take her ass! " It would have been rude for me to turn down my first present from a Colombiana so I complied and blew the whole load in her tight little butthole.

A short while later our Captain return. He blew the horn to get our attention before getting too close. He said later he did not want to have to see my naked ass which is understandable. By the time we got back to the marina the sun was starting to set. I gave the girls each $200 USD. It was one of the best days of my life and I still had not broke my planned budget. I turned on the cell phone I had rented and was notified that Tony had called me 22 times. I called him back to see what the problem was. He said he "had a new girl on the beach directly from Medellin" that was "very pretty and new". He told me he was keeping her for me and would not let her go with anyone else. I do not know how true this was but I told him to meet me at the apartment in 30 minutes.

The girl he brought was absolutely stunning. Long black hair, bouncy natural tits, beautiful eyes and perfect skin. He said she was 19 and that it was her first time here. Again, I do not know what to believe but she certainly acted new. I gave Tony 50K pesos and he left.

I did not think I would be able to do another girl after so much sex but she was too pretty to pass by. I asked her if she would like to first go out to diner in a nice restaurant which she accepted. I figured getting some food into me and passing some time would allow for me to be ready for her.

We went to a place in Bocagrande called Carbon del Palo. While sitting there a group of Americans entered and sat down at the next table. They were all lowlifes just like Qball and Dr. Danger. I cringed when I saw them. All of them were wearing old t-shirts and sandals. I could overhear them talking and it was clear none had an education above high school if that. Naturally they were talking about the usual things; girls, how the economy is fucked up and how Bush ruined the world. I had already told the girl I was an American but now I was wishing I said something else like I was British. After some time they broke out into a conversation on how to fix the economy. It would seem every poor piece of shit American has a big grandiose theory on how to fix the economy. Maybe we should fire all the accountants, economists, big player investors.ya fire them all- and put some of the uneducated American sex tourists in charge of the global meltdown. I am sure things would be rolling like the 1980s in no time.

One of them started with the "its the war" crap or the usual "Bush did (enter anything here)". Guys, I am going to let you in on a little secret. The meltdown started because some years ago the government thought it was a good fucking idea to give out sub prime loans to poor ass motherfuckers like yourselves who could not afford to pay the fucking loans back. When the economy slowed all you assholes could no longer make payments, and now, people like me who have real money and real investments are suffering. I have always said let the fucking poor live on the street like they do in Colombia. If you are too fucking stupid to make enough money to pay for your house then you do not deserve one.

Now I am on vacation with a super beautiful girl and have to listen to the poor ass gringos talking crap about the economy that they fucked up. I saw a couple of police officers walking down the street with automatic riffles. I visualized myself running over to one, grabbing his gun, then running back to the restaurant and shooting everyone one of the Wal-Mart gringos: BANG! BANG! BANG! Take that you fucking trailer park white trash shit who fucked up the US economy! BANG! HA HA HA! Just like in the last scenes of Scarface! Say Hello, to my little friend! B-B-BANG! But of course that would have fucked up my eating so I only allowed the idea to pass through my imagination.

One of the guys had a tattoo that read "New York". I always had a special dislike for people who put the location where they live on their arm. Do they do it in case they forget where they live? Or is it to help the police get information when they get arrested? Another one had one of those hipster goatee things growing on his face probably because he could not afford a razer. But the worse of the bunch of the complete loser with the Che tshirt. It is like saying "hey, look at me, I am COOL because I have a fellow South American on my tshirt. " Well, moron, it is people like Che that kept Colombia in a state of civil conflict for 50 years. I hope some not so friendly paracos see you some night walking around with that tshirt on. If so, some of the things I see in my imagination might become your reality.

Anyway, my babe was giving me a big friendly smile so I quickly forgot about the Wal-Mart convention beside me. We ate and walked back to the apartment holding hands. She really was a sweet thing.

By the time we got back to the apartment I think I had fell in love. I kept her for the next three days. She was an all around babe and as sweet as any girl I have ever met. The idea of a bunch of unbathed gringos pawing her makes me sick to my stomach but that is probably her destiny. She never asked me about money in all those days. But she did say she was only going to work in Cartagena until she could save up a couple million pesos. I do not know if this was true but I gave her $1, 000 USD hoping she would return to Medellin before some Wal-Mart employee could say "ya ya, I fucked her too! "

My flight was scheduled to go to Medellin on the day I said goodbye to her. I hope she went back to Medellin as well.

Medellin Part I coming tomorrow!

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Escort King
12-09-08, 20:34
With a 2k daily budget for chicas you really don't need to be grabbing shop girls. Waste 1k at a casino in tips to the upper staff and they will be sending you freebies that are better than any workers you are going to find.

Have dropped $8, 000 in one night at a brothel in Munich and the owners were taking me out for breakfast and introducing me to all sorts of free women.

Money attracts money and the women who look for the long term play.

The one thing I object to is the bang bang. Walmart comments. Subprime screwed with the economy but the huge spends overseas was a big part of it too.

I have to agree with the comments of others about you. You show little class by denigrating others. Just as you have the right to spend what you want so too do they.

MJG Dogs
12-10-08, 02:32
My guess is that she went shopping with her $ 1000 gift and then went back to the beach to ply her trade. In fact Tony may have gotten $ 100 of it to buy himself a new gold tooth

That is your decision dazed, but I would never give them a propina that big, nor do I ever send money.

John Gault
12-10-08, 05:03
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Sexmetv
12-10-08, 08:28
Mr Confused (nice nick, btw),

There's a difference between being rich and having money.

What I understand from your post is that you wasted lot of money. You meant to offend those you mentioned, but I feel you got the opposite effect. It is not always true that "the more expensive, the better". It would have been embarassing to see such a performance.

A *classy* man with 2000USD/day budget in CTG can really have fun and enjoy life, but it is a matter of targets.

I dont expect to meet such a person at Tony's beach, neither at Riquisimo (check the spelling), neither in the whole Bocagrande area. Sorry, the POOR ones are not those you mention, but those who like to show a big wallet like a big penis.

Some suggestions for a classy, savvy, gourmand connosseur of life in CTG with no problems of budget. It may be useful to someone.

HOTEL: stay in El Centro at Santa Clara, or at any other Boutique 5-star hotels there. They are charming, in colonial style. Choose a suite for >500USD/day. You can feel the atmosphere of the colonial times there. You can enjoy champagne in your suite, with a dream girl that really does not spoils herself with Tony.

RESTAURANTS: forget Bogagrande and Riquisimo. Ask the concierge. In the 50-100USD range, you'll enjoy classy restaurants (for example Vitrola, but not only that one), in a relaxing environment, with high-class tourists and Colombianos. Food in Cartagena can be extremely good.

GIRLS: no, I will not tell you.

Cartagena can be a nice place for rich ones too.Nicely played Sir.

Black Page
12-10-08, 11:09
Hey folks, we are all wasting our time posting about this. I agree: he must be a troll and we (me first) fell in the trap.

Besides what I wrote in my previous post: what do you think about someone who spends 2000USD/day and:

- goes to Tony

- rents apartment by Juan

- has lunch in Bocagrande at Riquisimo!

This is unbelievable crap!

ROFL

I am just back home (unfortunately). I will update my reports of 1 year ago with fresh info. Not much changed, anyway.

Best chicas are still in the clubs of El Centro (Queens, sometimes Tu Candela, Elektra after hours). Jeez. How can I be back home with such jewels in my eyes?

Jelly Donut
12-10-08, 13:37
I would never give them a propina that big, nor do I ever send money.
4.5 million COP a day! One thing about having a lot of money in Cartagena (or anywhere in Colombia) is you sure don't want anyone to know it. It's much better to be just a "normal" guy. With the girls, like Ricker was saying, money is only part of the deal with them. Too much of it and you start showing up on other people's radar.

Tony's brother was killed a couple of years back. Shot on the beach. Probably for carrying a couple of million or so COP on him. People who flash around a lot money are going to attract a lot of attention very fast in any Colombian town. Not good attention. Unless you've got security, it's not smart to advertise a high-flying profile. It just invites problems.

It does not take much imagination to see the vector a rumor like "The dude in 1408 gave me a $1000 bucks last night. Pulled it right out of his pocket. He's in town for the next 3 weeks" is going to travel. And think through the environment. All the Colombian guys entering a place like LDV are patted down for weapons, but, of course, with the gringos. Why bother?

"It could be that the purpose of your life is to serve as a warning to others"

Hunglow1625
12-10-08, 15:21
Dazed & confused you are,dillusional would be another.Maybe try submitting some of these bullshit stories to Penthouse to use in their forum.It's not working here

Member #3437
12-10-08, 15:53
When did the Cartagena section become a venue for people writing short story-fiction?

Gonzo
12-10-08, 18:49
One thing about having a lot of money in Cartagena (or anywhere in Colombia) is you sure don't want anyone to know it.<snip>

It does not take much imagination to see the vector a rumor like "The dude in 1408 gave me a $1000 bucks last night. Pulled it right out of his pocket. He's in town for the next 3 weeks" is going to travel. And think through the environment. I've never had problem in either CTG or other cities I've been in (except for shakedowns by the cops, looking for drugs, and probably bribes), but my approach is to start out at market prices, then if she does really well en la cama, give her a nice tip, and never be flashy. I've given big tips before, such as described below, but usually a day before I'm leaving the country.

From what I gather reading the Medellin Mansion forum, someone's well-known wealth and his proclivity to spread it around in poorer areas may have been a cause for the robbery.

Dazed Confused
12-10-08, 19:32
Let me address some of the clueless responses.

I said I gave myself a *budget* of $2000 a day. I never said I spent that much on any one day but if needed I would have. If you read my posts I clearly never went over budget on anything I wrote so far. So the constant references about my budget are pretty clueless. I never said I *SPENT* $2000 a day.

Juan has some of the best private apartments in Cartagena so what is the issue of renting from him? Yes I could have stayed at the Hilton but that would have made bringing in and out the girls more complicated. The apartment Juan rented me is much larger than a suite in the Hilton anyway.

As for Tony, well he is talked about a lot on here and other forums. This was my first trip to Colombia so I wanted to see as much as possible which also meant meeting Tony. The fact is Tony actually delivered when I wanted him to which is more than I can say for some of the other places I went to.

Riquisimo is very close to where I stayed and is also mentioned on here many times. The steak diner is perfectly fine. So who cares where I eat? Plus the price in Requisimos is not that much cheaper than any of the other restaurants I saw in Colombia.

Anyway, I fully expected this kind of reaction from the price police. I really do not care how you riffraff spend your money and it always confuses me why poor people are so preoccupied with how other people spend their cash. I guess jealousy is a very powerful emotion.

Hang Low 69
12-11-08, 00:49
Having just finished my 21st trip to Colombia in the last 2 years I can proudly say....

GO GIVES a fuxk...let him do what he pleases.

If he wants to write short porn stories... let him.
If he wants to enjoy his vacation... let him
If he wants to get robbed... let him
Its his life and maybe he wants to enjoy it.
Heck, I have enjoyed all my trips.. but i get 10 trips to his 1.

Member #3435
12-11-08, 01:04
Let me address some of the clueless responses.

I said I gave myself a *budget* of $2000 a day. I never said I spent that much on any one day but if needed I would have. If you read my posts I clearly never went over budget on anything I wrote so far. So the constant references about my budget are pretty clueless. I never said I *SPENT* $2000 a day.

Juan has some of the best private apartments in Cartagena so what is the issue of renting from him? Yes I could have stayed at the Hilton but that would have made bringing in and out the girls more complicated. The apartment Juan rented me is much larger than a suite in the Hilton anyway.

As for Tony, well he is talked about a lot on here and other forums. This was my first trip to Colombia so I wanted to see as much as possible which also meant meeting Tony. The fact is Tony actually delivered when I wanted him to which is more than I can say for some of the other places I went to.

Riquisimo is very close to where I stayed and is also mentioned on here many times. The steak diner is perfectly fine. So who cares where I eat? Plus the price in Requisimos is not that much cheaper than any of the other restaurants I saw in Colombia.

Anyway, I fully expected this kind of reaction from the price police. I really do not care how you riffraff spend your money and it always confuses me why poor people are so preoccupied with how other people spend their cash. I guess jealousy is a very powerful emotion.It's not a reaction from the price police, it's a reaction from the bullshit police.

Glazed Donut
12-11-08, 01:40
When did the Cartagena section become a venue for people writing short story-fiction?I think this has been going on for quite a while, if you've been reading certain threads you'll find the same characters and stories emerge from time-to-time. One interesting thing for me is the supporting cast. Take Red Maple. His three posts on this thread, and his posting history overall, bridge things together very well for the enthusiatic reader. Anyway, in my opinion, the writing is getting better. "the little one". Excellent stuff.

D. C.. Are you going to help Red Maple out with his request for photos?

Dick Driven
12-11-08, 04:25
Not that it matters, but I would bet money that dazed confused was Code Pink.

He was making the same kind of reports in the mansion incident thread a few months back.

I am going to put him on my ignore list.

MJG Dogs
12-11-08, 05:23
That last paragraph truly shows that there is a big difference between being rich and having class. A totally classless last paragraph Dazed. I don't nor do most people on this board really give a flying fuck about how much money you have.

However, you may want to read Jelly Donut's post again. He makes a point about being a mark in Cartagena. But then again you have probably decided based on your last posting that he is "riffraff" also.

Perhpas dazed you should go to Costa Rica and rent the Penthouse from Tony Lama Butch at the Del Rey. You would be a big star there, In Colombia you may just end up dead.

Treeshark
12-11-08, 07:00
Not that it matters, but I would bet money that dazed confused was Code Pink.

He was making the same kind of reports in the mansion incident thread a few months back.

I am going to put him on my ignore list.I am willing to take that bet! But only for 1, 000 COP max. On second thought, maybe 100 COP max.

I went and read one post. Saw the Wal-Mart gringo thing.

Sad thing is that I like the term "Wal-Mart Gringo"

There has been a time or two when I was at a location where there was an American gringo present. Their behavior was so bad that I really just wanted to crawl under a rock and hide. Claim that I was from Canada. Anything to get away from them. Or to make people think that no way was I from the same country as that person.

Always wondered what to call them besides a complete pocking *******.

Maybe governor of Illinois?

Maple Red
12-11-08, 07:44
Dazed Confused,

Another well written and interesting report. But, there have been reports written here, which seemed somewhat "fictional". As a result, some of the forum members are rightfully skeptical. I make a friendly suggestion. Include some photos. Photos might add some authenticity to your reports. And, many of us "enthusiastic readers" (who aren't travelling in paradise now) enjoy looking at photos of hot Colombianas!

Thanks,

Maple

PS. Glazed Donut might need to borrow $19. 95 out of your $2000/day budget to buy a membership. Walmat was out of them.

Goga Fung
12-11-08, 17:24
In general I understand what Dazed Confused means, since everybody has their own opinion which if perfectly fine. I would also agree with some things he's saying.

It only seems strange to me that if he is really that "rich/smart/classy...", then why does he need to go to Colombia(to feel truly rich while looking at poor people? at least it sounds like this), to this message board, to pay so much attention to the "walmart" guys who [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) him off, and write all these things in detail. I cannot imagine that some really rich poeple would ever do any things like that. They would never consider spending their valuable time looking at another guy's tatoo, getting pissed and then complaining about it on the Internet.

But my main question, how is it perceived in Colombia, when you come in a club with a girl, and other guys try to talk to her and probably take her away. Even though she is a prepago, but clearly she came with me. In Cartagena I came to a club with a girl(a prepago who I've known for 2+ years). And when I was leaving her for bathroom, some gringos were running to her and talking. When I was coming back they were walking away.

I have seen these kinda things in the USA, where desperate guys are trying to talk a girl away from another guy. In other countries(including where I'm from) they would get kicked there butts for that. But why in Colombia where there are plenty of other girls? Or if you wanna talk to the girl then do not run away when I'm back, just introduce yourself.

I'm wondering how it is perceived in Colombia. In my opinion, this is an inappropriate rude behavior.

MiamiHeatLuver
12-11-08, 20:39
But my main question, how is it perceived in Colombia, when you come in a club with a girl, and other guys try to talk to her and probably take her away. Even though she is a prepago, but clearly she came with me. In Cartagena I came to a club with a girl(a prepago who I've known for 2+ years). And when I was leaving her for bathroom, some gringos were running to her and talking. When I was coming back they were walking away.

I have seen these kinda things in the USA, where desperate guys are trying to talk a girl away from another guy. In other countries(including where I'm from) they would get kicked there butts for that. But why in Colombia where there are plenty of other girls? Or if you wanna talk to the girl then do not run away when I'm back, just introduce yourself.

I'm wondering how it is perceived in Colombia. In my opinion, this is an inappropriate rude behavior.If shes with you, why would you care who talks with her while your away, she wont leave with them. What kinds of clubs are you taking her to? Tell her not to dress or act like a prepago. This will prevent some of that.

Sexmetv
12-12-08, 04:46
But my main qu€estion, how is it perceived in Colombia, when you come in a club with a girl, and other guys try to talk to her and probably take her away. Even though she is a prepago, but clearly she came with me. In Cartagena I came to a club with a girl(a prepago who I've known for 2+ years). And when I was leaving her for bathroom, some gringos were running to her and talking. When I was coming back they were walking away.

I have seen these kinda things in the USA, where desperate guys are trying to talk a girl away from another guy. In other countries(including where I'm from) they would get kicked there butts for that. But why in Colombia where there are plenty of other girls? Or if you wanna talk to the girl then do not run away when I'm back, just introduce yourself.

I'm wondering how it is perceived in Colombia. In my opinion, this is an inappropriate rude behavior.She's a prepago which by definition means you're only "renting" her, so can you really get THAT mad if some guy hits on you're rental property. Besides its only rude if they try and hit on her while you're standing there. In addition as Miami noted, if gringos can spot that's she's a prepago and feel that bold going up to her, maybe she needs to tone down the dressing or you need to take her to a nicer place.

Member #4258
12-13-08, 02:35
Before you go, you should watch this. Pay close attention to the last part, about the murder and kidnap rate.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/hugochavez/I watched the show on TV.

The guy's a nut.

Cachorro
12-13-08, 16:38
She's a prepago which by definition means you're only "renting" her, so can you really get THAT mad if some guy hits on you're rental property. Besides its only rude if they try and hit on her while you're standing there. In addition as Miami noted, if gringos can spot that's she's a prepago and feel that bold going up to her, maybe she needs to tone down the dressing or you need to take her to a nicer place.Could be that they knew her previously.

It's hard to strike that balance. Say you see a girl you know around town, and today she's with some other guy. It's only polite to give her a "good to see you" sign.

But it's best if not too obvious. It devalues your view of the girl a bit if you're walking with her and other guys are constantly saying "hey!" who've already been there before you and stretched her out.

Reefski
12-25-08, 23:38
So what does the infamous Tony look like? Where exactly does he hang out?

I got into Cartagena last night and walked the beach for a while and was chatted up by a black guy named Rapheal (? ) but I had a City tour booked so I didn't stick around. This was close to Calle 4.

Since Tony is a semi legend on this site, I feel I have to at least meet the guy before I leave town.

Reef

Pana Nyc
12-26-08, 08:32
Tony is moreno with a gold tooth in his mouth and you can't miss him he speaks english and he will say his the "THE ONE AND ONLY TONY #1" and also he will be sniffing his nose like he has a sinus problem but we all know why he really does that. LOL


So what does the infamous Tony look like? Where exactly does he hang out?

I got into Cartagena last night and walked the beach for a while and was chatted up by a black guy named Rapheal (? ) but I had a City tour booked so I didn't stick around. This was close to Calle 4.

Since Tony is a semi legend on this site, I feel I have to at least meet the guy before I leave town.

Reef

Malodr
12-26-08, 13:28
So what does the infamous Tony look like? Where exactly does he hang out?

I got into Cartagena last night and walked the beach for a while and was chatted up by a black guy named Rapheal (? ) but I had a City tour booked so I didn't stick around. This was close to Calle 4.

Since Tony is a semi legend on this site, I feel I have to at least meet the guy before I leave town.

ReefWalk along the beach and yell out "Tony", he will come over real fast.

Mangera
12-26-08, 15:33
Walk along the beach and yell out "Tony", he will come over real fast.If anyone has ever met the weasel, then you must find this report extremely funny. I did.

Thanks for the laugh Malodr.

Reefski
12-26-08, 17:34
Am I in the right area when I'm on the beach between Calle 4 and the Hotel Dann?

Reef


Tony is moreno with a gold tooth in his mouth and you can't miss him he speaks english and he will say his the "THE ONE AND ONLY TONY #1" and also he will be sniffing his nose like he has a sinus problem but we all know why he really does that. LOL

Hilltopper
12-26-08, 18:33
Look for the post from LocoGringo posted on this forum on 10-28-08. There are several photos in his post, including one of Tony.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=582&page=11&pp=15

If you'd like, you can send me a private message and I can give provide you his cell number. Some guys like to plan ahead, others like myself just prefer to hang-out on the beach to see what opportunities arise.

Have fun!


So what does the infamous Tony look like? Where exactly does he hang out?

I got into Cartagena last night and walked the beach for a while and was chatted up by a black guy named Rapheal (? ) but I had a City tour booked so I didn't stick around. This was close to Calle 4.

Since Tony is a semi legend on this site, I feel I have to at least meet the guy before I leave town.

Reef

Tiny 12
12-28-08, 01:03
there's a group of videos on youtube, fantasmas en la ciudad de piedra, that are fascinating if you understand spanish and if you're interested in cartagena. parts 1, 2 and 6 are largely about security and poverty in the city, parts 3 and 4 about prostitution, and 5 is a waste of time. what i learned,

1. we pay too much. the mayor of cartagena knows where to get a blow job for 5, 000 pesos and a piece of ass for 40, 000.

2. while the discoteques (like ldv) screen for age, there are **** streetwalkers, 15,16, 17 years old. i've never picked up a sw there that looked young, but if i did, i'd make damn sure i looked at her cedula first.

3. there was a guy who's a director for a ngo that combats prostitution that was hilarious. first he says that thai and japanese sex tourists that come to cartagena prefer pregnant women in their 5th through 7th months. europeans prefer blacks. later he says that while they saw prostitutes 16 and 17 years old back in the 1990's, more recently they're seeing them 8 to 11 years old. anyway, i guess we should stop bitching about the italians and israelis and get ready for the hordes of thai and japanese sex tourists that are coming to cartagena to bang pregnant hookers. (this all sounds like bs he's using to promote his foundation).

4. while the police do a reasonably good job of policing the places we hang out, you don't want to hang around in poor neighborhoods. in fact, the camera man and reporter were filming a segment about a prostitute and her family life, when a gang banger comes into their hovel, waves his gun in the their faces, chases them down the calle and then steals the camera. they caught all this on film. the police recovered the camera and put the perpetrator behind bars in short order. basically, as far as the police are concerned, you don't fuck with the press or tourists or anybody rich or powerful in cartagena. but otherwise poor neighborhoods in cartagena are like favelas in rio. the gangs control the barrios. there's some great, but short footage of gun battles between the gangs in a couple of the segments. there was some improvement in the months just before the filming, as a result of auc types (right wing paramilitary) coming into the barrios and wasting gang members.

5. while colombia in general has become a much safer place under uribe, violence has increased in cartagena. now the homicide rate there is higher than bogota. (again, this would apply to the poor barrios that the sane among us stay away from.)

6. they had some info about a couple of italians that were killed in parque de apolo at 10:00 in the morning. the thief did it to get their digital camera. he was quickly aprehended by the police. this sounded like a freak incident to me.- if you've been to parque de apolo during daytime, it seems like the safest place in the world.

here are some links:

part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rbt6n0nom8
part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unq5i--at-k
part 3 (second half of segment
about prostitution): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtdqgspbios
part 4 (about prostitution): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bikgavu9yzg
part 5 (not worth watching unless you enjoy watching two ugly women beat the shit out of each other): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2bfhogitry
part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuukawgvnpi

Member #4258
01-02-09, 23:41
I'm sure everyone is familiar with the checkpoint outside of LDV. Late at night the police check you, your chica and taxi driver for contraban. My concern is what if they find something on the taxi driver or in your chica's handbag? Am I going to spend the next 5 years in a Colombian prison?

Hoser

Shugerdadi
01-03-09, 06:17
I returned to Cartagena in Nov & Dec, 2008 and found that not much had changed from my previous trip in July, 2008. See previous report here http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=763599

Here are my numbers:

La Dolce Vida

Hit on 5 girls
Scored with 4
1 refused less than 150k cop so i took 1 for 80k
Paid none upfront (1 asked but i said no)
All gave bbbj (i refuse covered bj)
Prices include taxi(always negociate upfront)
Tipped with small gift like cheap earrings,etc. but it's not necessary.
2 @ 80,000 cop
1 @ 90,000 cop
1 @ 100,000 cop

Street Girls:

Hit on 6
Scored with 5
1 refused less than 70k cop so i took 1 for 50k.
Paid none upfront
All gave bbbj
Prices include taxi
Tipped with small gift like cheap earrings,etc. but it's not necessary.
1 @ 40,000 cop (bj only)
3 @ 50,000 cop
2 @ 60,000 cop

Note: I have been going to cartagena over 5 years and speak good spanish.

60k is a fair price for street girls. Tell them that you have another girl waiting for 50k. 80-100k is a fair price for disco girls. Tell them you have another girl waiting for 80k including taxi.

All the girls know each other (street & disco)and they all discuss your fees (often the same day)so don't pay more the first time than you want to pay everytime and have the balls to walk away when necessary. Never think with the little head!

Sorry but I don’t post pics.

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Member #4258
01-03-09, 16:41
Ask the cop to read you your Miranda Rights and keep your mouth shut. They watch the US police TV show also and know the Miranda Rights very well.

I'll also let them know that Matlock is my lawyer.

Reefski
01-05-09, 05:33
I was just there so I'll contibute a picture. This little number was giving me the eye on the beach in Cartagena. Tony the tout hooked me up though I'm sure all that did was add 20% to my costs. Anyway, she was worth it.

Reef


Sorry but I don’t post pics.

Doc Simp
01-05-09, 07:09
I was just there so I'll contibute a picture. This little number was giving me the eye on the beach in Cartagena. Tony the tout hooked me up though I'm sure all that did was add 20% to my costs. Anyway, she was worth it.

ReefReef,

If you dont mind me asking: How much for the chica?

Tom 33
01-05-09, 14:06
I was just there so I'll contibute a picture. This little number was giving me the eye on the beach in Cartagena. Tony the tout hooked me up though I'm sure all that did was add 20% to my costs. Anyway, she was worth it.

ReefShe looks like a girl I did maybe 4 years ago named Briana. If so, she has not aged well. Four years ago she was a real pain in the ass but very hot.

PauloThai
01-05-09, 23:47
She looks like a girl I did maybe 4 years ago named Briana. If so, she has not aged well. Four years ago she was a real pain in the ass but very hot.Tom 33,

A comment like yours needs some proof.

Trianna looks are great!

Briana looks?

Cheers!

Reefski
01-06-09, 00:14
Doc - She was $120,000 for an hour. We swapped numbers and she called again that night and the next day. I'm sure I could have had it for 80K the second time around.

Reef


Reef,

If you dont mind me asking: How much for the chica?

Hang Low 69
01-06-09, 00:19
I'm sure everyone is familiar with the checkpoint outside of LDV. Late at night the police check you, your chica and taxi driver for contraban. My concern is what if they find something on the taxi driver or in your chica's handbag? Am I going to spend the next 5 years in a Colombian prison?

HoserHad that exact same thing happen to me. Just got out last night. NO just kidding. They searched the cab and found a pack of smokes with a couple of handrolls and a colombian cedula of a 20's guy. I just told the cop who spoke perfect english that it wasnt mine. Wink wink and away we went. Best bet is don't even go to Colombia. Its dangerous. Wink wink.

Reefski
01-06-09, 00:32
Briana? She said it was Triana. Anyway, that's what I put in my mobile and she confirmed. She was 18, looked it (and acted it) Remember, she wasn't in LDV with all her war paint on and a tight dress hiding in 20 pounds of cellulite. (had one of those the other night, ugh.)

I thought she looked pretty good with no makeup and spending all day at the beach.

Reef


She looks like a girl I did maybe 4 years ago named Briana. If so, she has not aged well. Four years ago she was a real pain in the ass but very hot.

Hilltopper
01-06-09, 11:10
Tom, pretty sure a different chica than who you're thinking. While the name, skin tone, hair and body shape from the picture can remind one of another chica in Carta, the face is certainly not the same.

I'm guessing you might be thinking of a certain chica with a leaf tatoo'd on her leg who wears her bikini quite well, LOL.

That being said, speaking of not aging well. The chica in the picture sure appeared to have a hot, tight body. I didn't spot any stretch or age marks, flabby skin, droopy tits, etc, LOL.


She looks like a girl I did maybe 4 years ago named Briana. If so, she has not aged well. Four years ago she was a real pain in the ass but very hot.

Hilltopper
01-06-09, 11:15
Reefski, her hot, little body made my radar take attention, lol.


Briana? She said it was Triana. Anyway, that's what I put in my mobile and she confirmed. She was 18, looked it (and acted it) Remember, she wasn't in LDV with all her war paint on and a tight dress hiding in 20 pounds of cellulite. (had one of those the other night, ugh.)

I thought she looked pretty good with no makeup and spending all day at the beach.

Reef

Tom 33
01-06-09, 12:33
Tom 33,

A comment like yours needs some proof.

Trianna looks are great!

Briana looks?

Cheers!I normally don't post photos anymore, but I would in this case. However, her photos are archived on a DVD, and I'm too lazy to dig them up.

Sorry

Tom 33
01-07-09, 00:45
Tom, pretty sure a different chica than who you're thinking. While the name, skin tone, hair and body shape from the picture can remind one of another chica in Carta, the face is certainly not the same.

I'm guessing you might be thinking of a certain chica with a leaf tatoo'd on her leg who wears her bikini quite well, LOL.

That being said, speaking of not aging well. The chica in the picture sure appeared to have a hot, tight body. I didn't spot any stretch or age marks, flabby skin, droopy tits, etc, LOL.It is entirely possible that this is another chica. And I really did not mean to dis this one. When I spoke of not aging well, I was speaking specifically about the skin on her face. The sun and drugs can do a number on facial skin. And camera angles and light can make things appear different than they actually are.

Nearly 100% of these girls look better in person. At least they look better than the photos that I take.

Black Page
01-07-09, 14:37
these 3 reports (parts 1/3, 2/3, 3/3) are the updated version of 3 reports i posted here about one year ago, which i believe feature good pieces of information. i was back to ctg 3 days in the first week of december 2008. therefore, i thought to update my reports with recent info, still leaving all text that is not outdated. i believe this may be very useful to many. please do not blame me if i repeat.

in these 3 reports, i will try to summarize a bit of *my* experience in cartagena (3 days in 2008, 1 week in 2007, 1 week in 2006) for the benefit of those who will follow. i will not talk only of mongering, since even the most excited mongerer needs some rest and to look at other things, i believe.

i understand that this is my personal point of view and that not everyone will agree with everything i will write, but on the other hand i am sure that many others will share my thoughts.

warning

this report is not suited for you, if what you seek in a vacation abroad is, first, a sport bar where to watch football on a megascreen, in company of many other tourists of your same country, and then a club with girls and beers. just skip this post.

also, i believe this report will not find much appreciation by those who find laguito the most exciting destination of cartagena, or that do not see anything interesting in the area within the fortification walls of el centro. the world is good because varied and everybody finds something most suited to personal taste.

do i speak spanish?

basic spanish-speaking skills are definitely recommended. without spanish, you have to deal only with those who are well used to treat tourists. this is a not good-promising, especially if she is a chica. or not?

in any case, not speaking spanish will limit your possibilities too much here, whatever you want to do.

most people in ctg does not speak english. also, their spanish is actually "costeńo" in most cases, rather hard to understand and different from other spanish dialects spoken in latin america.

should i stay in laguito or el centro?

this is the first question for all newcomers. i have been in ctg 3 times, the first (2006) i was in a hotelito of bocagrande (the one you find on expedia), the 2nd and 3rd (2007, 2008) in el centro.

bocagrande is a modern area, full of skyscrapers, tourist malls and restaurants, and all the like. being there, you will not notice you are in colombia, unless you don't talk to somebody or watch the look of most people.

hotels and restaurants, for the same level of service, are on the average more expensive than in centro. for example, compare the prices of hotels like hilton, almirante or caribe with those of 4/5-stars colonial-style luxury hotels of the centro (which non surprisingly are not quoted on expedia, hotel.com, etc). prices do not differ much, but what a difference of service, accommodation and atmosphere! if you stay in bocagrande, tough, you'll have the beach 5 minutes from your room. i understand this is not of deprived of value.

almost all restaurants in bocagrande are very tourist-style, with standard menues and service, more tending to a fast food than to a restaurant where to taste delicacies to remember (there are exceptions, see below).

el centro is on the unesco's world heritage list. it exhibits an impressive fortification system (walls and a castle). all houses are in spanish colonial style. there are hotels among the most charming ones of latin america (best roooms or suites may cost from 300 to 1000 usd per night, though). i found a little but charming hotel (3 stars maybe) in san diego, which cost about 60-70 usd/night (same price in 2007 and 2008). i went back on 2008.

there are also very-low-budget accommodations, good for youngsters who travel in group.

if you like to take photos, you'll be lost in el centro. it is so nice to walk and just look people there.

there are countless good and excellent restaurants (they may cost up to 70 usd per person, warning! ) for all budgets, to taste authentic costeńo, criollo or caribe food (comida paisa is also available everywhere here and in bocagrande). moreover, best places for hunting or just dancing at night are in el centro. in conclusion, i suggest to stay in el centro and forget bocagrande.

safety issues?

you can walk at any time of the night at bocagrande, even if you are a blonde gringo-looking.

in el centro, i'd say *almost* the same. the situation has improved a lot in these years. it is full of police at any time. however, some care should be taken anyway. if you don't feel confortable, or you are exhibiting a big wallet and expensive watch, it is better you avoid going out of the fortification walls at night or walking alone at night at getsemani (i did it happily more than once, but i understand it may be problematic for others).

the fame of getsemani as a dangerous place is however exhagerated: many us youngsters take low-cost rooms there and stroll at night with no problems.

my choice, in 2007 and 2008, was lodging at el centro, in san diego close to santa clara hotel.

a taxi ride from bocagrande to centro or back costs the standard fare 5000$ (at any time night and day! do not pay more).

more safety issues

in addition to the above, be prudent, but do not be afraid to walk at day outside the walls. for example, go to the castle (el castillo) on foot, to see something different than the central square of the town. people is good and if you stop to drink in a bar they will talk to you very friendly.

obviously, you should not go walking in a poor barrio wearing a rolex, but this is common sense also in usa, and not only in colombia. be prudent and you'll be safe. make a stroll also in el mercado or getsemani. you'll see people and situations very different from what you are probably used at home. this is why we travel, in most cases, right?

cross all small streets of getsemani, day time, to enjoy the atmosphere. in the central square of getsemani, there is a nice place for almuerzar.

i went a couple of times to have a beer at the bar california at the beginning of calle media luna in getsemani, in front of the garden. i watched music videos with noisy people there, i chatted with guys and girls. none of them is dangerous for sure. at night, just avoid to walk outside walls, especially if you are wearing expensive clothes, except the arsenal (core of nightlife for many good-family young cartagenians). dangerous places, to be avoided at night and even at day if you are alone, are the roads outside the walls where there are bushes and trees. i was told that it happens that criminals hide there, waiting for single persons to robber. it is a well-known problem of security.

the infamous case of the couple of elderly italians robbered (and the man killed) 2 years ago happened this way. they were walking in the late afternoon on the road out of the walls, close to parque apollo. a teen jumped out from the bushes with a gun.

basic precautions and common sense will avoid problems, here like anywhere else. consider that ctg (centre! ) is one of the safest towns in colombia, due to the high pressure by the police.

(end of part 1/3) (part 2/3 follows...)

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Black Page
01-07-09, 15:00
(. follows from part 1/3)

beaches

basically, i am sorry to say so, but the beach in ctg (bocagrande and laguito) sucks. it is wide, with good sand, bars, women that sell good plates of fresh fruit (salada de fruta: 5000$ in 2007, 7000$ in 2008! i think too many tourists have visited), sexy girls at times. but, on one side there are the skyscrapers of bocagrande, on the other the water of the ocean, which is not transparent and not very appealing. beach bars asks variable prices, depending on how you look. basically, their principle is to squeeze as much money as possible from the tourists. if you show you can pay higher prices, then they remember you and you'll be their gold mine throughout your stay.

price for a beer is 3k. if they offer you a seat, ask the price before sitting.

avoid tony, touts and all the like. frankly, i don't see the reason to pay tony for the same girls you can meet at night in clubs of el centro. i admit i tried tony and another tout (2006, 2007), of course as everyone, and i wasted my quota of money as others. now, thanks, i learned and i don't repeat.

avoid also massages on your shoulders (30k? ), live music and fresh (fresh? with that temperature? ) crabs and raw clams sold on the beach. want to try crab legs? hmmm guess how much they will ask you to pay? 5k? 10k? more! i did the mistake to accept one, as it was offered "just to try". then, the guy asked my 15k. i did not pay, but a long discussion started. since we go to the beach to relax, i don't advise you to accept to taste it.

to have good sea, you better head to nearby islands by boat (e. g. , islas del rosario, playa blanca, tierra bomba, etc.).

if you go to the beach to meet sexy girls, weekends offer best opportunities (semi-pro have more free time).

restaurants

in bocagrande, if you are tired of fast-food, burgers or arepas, try the restaurants on the last beach before the beach of hilton. you go there from the little alley (a) that begins at laguito where there is the police station, or from the previous alley (b) just 50m before coming from centro.

the best restaurant is known to be "el muelle", with terrace on sea, left side at the end of alley b. fresh fish (pescados) and seafood (mariscos). open at night too. the terrace is very good. one forum member reported that he had stomach problems after having eaten fish there. personally, i did not have such problems. also, some local friend took me there for dinner, so i guess it has good reputation among locals. at daytime, you will enjoy also the small cheap restaurant called dona marciana (at end of a). i love it! it is the last one and offers fresh catch-of-the day fish (but do not look at the kitchen. ! ). in 2006 and 2007, there was a nice beach in front of it. in dec. 2008, the beach was non-existent, all eaten by the sea. one waiter is called manuel and is definitely a good person.

in el centro, it is simply a gastronomy feast, even for high-demanding gourmets. if money is not a problem and you want to impress a high-end chica, try la vitrola (70usd) near cafe del mar or the famous la casa del socorro (arsenal). la vitrola is too formal for my taste, but it is a high-end restaurant where you can enjoy high-quality dishes, prepared very well.

however, good restaurants are countless in el centro! i tried more than once "juan del mar" and "santisimo" in san diego (in range 40usd), stilish and good. better these ones than la vitrola, for price/quality ratio. all are famous for fish.

in short, forget fast foods in bocagrande and go to el centro for a rewarding dinner, if gastronomy has some value for you. (if you just look for burgers, then you better have skipped this section).

bars for drinking, eating and listening to music

these two are very classy bars of el centro, where to enjoy the view of cartagena in good company.

1) cafe del mar, on the walls of el centro.

spectacular breathtaking view of the sea and bocagrande, fresh wind from the sea, good cocktails. the music is very good and well selected: ambient, electronic and trance. stunning girls on display (many rich tourists, also colombians, like to bring there their stunning beauties for a drink).

2) casa de la cerveza, on the walls at the end of arsenal road. similar to cafč del mar. it is possible to eat well and drink beer made by them. high-end ambient. the amazing view is on el centro, bocagrande and el castillo.

and don't miss:

3) donde fidel, aside tu candela, almost in plaza del reloy.

it has tables outside, on the square. in spite of the place, it is inexpensive and good. there, they play the best salsa music in town. inside, a thick crowd of local and some tourists exercises dancing, mixed all together.

discos (primarily) for music

these places are not primarily meeting points for chicas (forget the ldv style). they are places where people go to dance and have fun.

1) (visited in 2007) joy slava, in el centro, close to walls, not far from cafč del mar. good disco, well known in ctg, where "normal" people go to dance. two rooms. it is certainly possible to meet also pro's, semi-pro's and non-pro's here.

2) discos along the calle on the arsenal. this road is the "zona rosa" of el centro. it starts from the big square in front of the reloy (outside the walls) and goes till the casa de la cerveza (near the bridge to la manga and el castillo).

completely safe to walk at any time of the night.

if you go to walk along this road on any friday or saturday night, after 12am, you'll probably have severe problems when you'll be back home and you'll compare to the girls of your home country. it is unbelievable how many beautiful girls live in this country and how sexy they like to dress. !

(i am speaking about normal girls that hang out with friends)

the most famous club here is mister babilla (visited 2008, great! ). pay a cover charge 10k on weekends. pay up to 14k for cocktails. the girls dancing on tables will cause you psychic problems, probably, once back home and you compare. there are also a couple of pure discos, very well attended.

one night, the chica i was walking with pointed my attention to a stunning blonde walking on her high heels with a friend. she was a famous tv-news reader, very well known in colombia (i forgot her name). many were stopping her to take a photo with her.

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Black Page
01-07-09, 15:13
(. Follows from Part 2/3)

HOTELS

Why so many guys are worried to know if the hotel is chica-friendly or not? Are you all so willing to bring somebody you don't know in your room, where you keep all your private things?
There are so many cheap and satisfying alternatives in CTG.

1) For the lazy one in Bocagrande.
Plenty of almost-sleazy hotels offer their rooms by the hour (ask: "por un rato"). They ask about 20k. I do not recommend them, unless you are on the hurry with a SW met on a street of Bocagrande late at night. Safe, but do not expect luxury forniture and service. I don't want to mention their names here, to avoid them possible problems.

2) For the lazy one in El Centro.
Here, hotels that offer rooms by the hour are really not attractive. Lower quality, worse cleanness than in Bocagrande. I do not recommend them. I tried one in 2006 and it was like a hotel in Santa Fe Bogota.

3) WHERE I GO AND I RECOMMEND TO GO
The place where to go, if you have a good classy chica met at LDV or other discos at ElCentro, is a motel specialized for this business. There, you will relax in a good environment, at any time 24h/24h, for a very cheap rate, without worrying about your stuff or what the personnel of your hotel may say.
Try:
- JAIBA (pronounce: "haiva"), a motel in an barrio just after Crespo (the way from El Centro to the airport, at right), 5-10 minutes by taxi from the Clock Square (Reloy).
Rooms from small and cheap to luxury suites. Cost is about 14k or 20k (2008 price) per 2 hours minimum (YES, 7-10 USD! ). Time is counted automatically, so you can stay all time you want. Different types of rooms are available. Usually, they take you to the cheapest available, unless you don't ask differently.
You arrive by taxi, the car enters the slot, you walk up and nobody sees you. At the end, you call the bill by phone and it is delivered on a small window in 5 minutes. The rooms of medium quality are large, very clean, with glass shower box, well furnished, even a "sex chair" for trying multiple positions (see it to believe). It is a deluxe environment, with privacy guarantee, even drinks and food available "a la orde".
I cannot believe it: I suggested Jaiba in a previous report in 2006, I repeated my suggestion in 2007, but almost nobody seemed to react. It is by far the best accommodation I could recommend for this business: cheap and good. Try it one time and you'll tell me.
- CANGREJO. On the same street of Jaiba, cheaper and less beatiful. I did not try it. Maybe if Jaiba is full.
- DUNES. Not far from Jaiba, in a near barrio. Deluxe accommodation, better quality than Jaiba, more expensive, but still very cheap for the service provided: 28k for min 2 hours (2007 price)!
Standard price to go there by taxi: 10k$ from El Centro (15k$ from Bocagrande), max 12k at late night. Ask before leaving, so you will be not overcharged. Leave 2000$ tip. I was asked also 15k from El Centro. It depends how you look and how greedy is the driver (and how willing you are to be overcharged).
A bit more the price to go back (15k). The motel will call you a taxi to return.
Don't worry to get lost: just ask the taxi driver "haiva" or "dunes". They ALL KNOW THEM. All girls also know these places. So, you may let her to talk to the driver, if you don't feel confident. The place is SAFE, clean and well attended.

DISCOS FOR GIRLS

Finally, we come to the point: Where to meet pro and semi-pro chicas?

1) "LA DULCE VITA".
It is close to the casino, at the first floor of the building near where the road after Caribe bends to left heading to Hilton.
It is the most acclaimed destination in this forum. Guys, don't jump on me, but I cannot agree with that.
LDV is the main destination of all tourists in Bocagrande who have money but are not willing to move their ass, even by taxi. As a result, if you go there you'll find yourself competing with several gringoes or other rich tourists from Europe. Girls are pricey, when stunning, and more used to USD than to Pesos. Here, the quality of girls is not better than in discoes of El Centro.
However, I understand that my taste is not necessarily the same as of others, so I am happy to see that others will disagree with me (at least, they go to LDV and we do not compete for the same resources in my favourite clubs! ).

2) Discos in El Centro.
The most expensive and advertised is ISIS, 1 block from the Plaza de la Aduana. I never went there (2007 and 2008), since I don't like to be pulled by all poor street boys who get money for bringing people there. As far as I know, it is pricey, but girls are high-end.
The best places that I suggest are TU CANDELA (visited 2007, 2008), XXXX and ELEKTRA.
There are other bars too, e. G. Bamboo.
I liked DIVA in 2007 (is it still open on 2008? I did not go, so I don't detail here to avoid to supply outdated info).

TU CANDELA has doors on the Plaza del Reloy. Cover only on weekends, when there is a lot of people, not all necessarily hunting for a mate. Cocktails around 13k-16k$ or so.

XXXXX is very good (I forgot its name! Anybody can help? MAybe QUEENS? I am not sure, sooorrrry! ). It is in the same place of the old GIRO MATTO (closed in 2007). It is a good place, where I saw the best girls in 2008, with an excellent ratio males/females. Same prices as in TU CANDELA.

In TUCANDELA and XXXXX, in 2007 and 2008, I met many stunning girls, so sexy that are hard to believe they are real and not product of synthesis. Age range: mostly 18-25. They ALL ask from 150k to 200k, but since there were not many men hunting around (at least in these days), I always bargained down to 100k-150k, without discussing about time (I guess TLN was offered, although I prefer to be back home later to sleep). Provided that I cannot imagine how a girl could be better, in terms of body, sexy attitude, etc. , I am satisfied of what I spent.

My favourite place, in 2008, was this one. Too bad that I forgot its name. However, it is the one at the same place of GIRO MATTO. If anybody can help, confirming me that its name is now Queens. (There is a Queens, but I am not sure it is this one).

Another good place is ELEKTRA, 1 block from Plaza del Reloy.
It is the disco where girls go after all other clubs are closed (2. 30am). It took the role of Giro Matto, if you know what I mean.
It is the place where they try the last chance to have a mate for the night. I guess it helps bargaining.
It closes at 5am or so.

3) Other Casas
In 2007, I tried PLEYCLUB (written like that, yes). It is a well-known strip club, with rooms and standard legal full service. It is in El Bosque, 10 minutes by taxi from Reloy.
About 12 girls, not bad but really one step down compared to what I was used to see in Tu Candela and Diva.
I asked the price: 150k for 20minutes! She told me this is the regulated price of the club, including the room.
Since I did not like the price, and the girl herself was attractive but not a goodness as I was starting to be used to (now I am back home and I feel drepressed), I decided to leave.

STREETWALKERS?

Yes, there are also SWs here. The quality cannot be the same as in clubs, but not bad, after all.
A small group gathers each night at the corner of Plaza del Reloy, right-front entering the Plaza from outside through the Reloy door. Various kinds of, literally. A night in 2007, I saw a pregnant girl approaching 8 months or so. In 2008, no such sights.
Others may be met on the benches in front of Tu Candela and Diva. They are different every night. In 2008, I did not see many here.
The largest group meets all nights in front of Bar California, on the other side of the square of the Reloy, outside the walls, after the gardens, where Calle Media Luna begins (Getsemani). Along the Calle, there are others. At day, they are in the garden. Sometimes, they move to closeby streets.
They are not attractive, however. There are exceptions in this group, though: there are two black teens (18 and 19 are still teens) who are sexy and considerably above the others. I chatted a lot with the most attractive one (not only chatted actually). One evening, I even took her to have a drink at Donde Fidel. She was not used to "higher-class" bars, apparently.
Many SW can be met in Bocagrande, night and day.
At day, some were available on the street that goes from the Police Station to Hilton in 2007. I did not see anyone in 2008.
At night, many SWs along the beach road and along the main road of Bocagrande (where there are all main shops).
Quality is not comparable to that of clubs. Prices are lower, though (I was asked 50k-60k).

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Black Page
01-07-09, 15:16
In my previous report, I called it XXXX.

It was my favourite club during my stay in Dec. 2008 in CTG, for the quantity and quality of girls I saw there all nites, not to mention the low men/girls ratio. It is in the same place where Giro Matto was, 2 years before.

Too bad, I forgot its name. GRRRR!

Anybody can help me? To complete my report.

I think it may be QUEENS, but I am not sure.

Black Page
01-07-09, 15:22
I'm sure everyone is familiar with the checkpoint outside of LDV. Late at night the police check you, your chica and taxi driver for contraban. My concern is what if they find something on the taxi driver or in your chica's handbag? Am I going to spend the next 5 years in a Colombian prison?

HoserI have been checked 3 times in CTG, BOG and MED in 2008 (over a total of 10 days/nights stay in 2008), plus other times previous years.

I always had the impression that police was just doing its job very professionally. They know what they do and what they look for. They understand very well who owns what.

When I was checked, I was alone, just walking in questionable places. They checked ID and even explored my pockets one night. I had no problems (I dont use drugs). After check, they told me "buenas" with a big smile. I trust Colombia police (I had problems of corrupted police in other countries, but never here).

Black Page
01-07-09, 15:45
there's a group of videos on youtube, fantasmas en la ciudad de piedra, that are fascinating if you understand spanish and if you're interested in cartagena. parts 1, 2 and 6 are largely about security and poverty in the city, parts 3 and 4 about prostitution, and 5 is a waste of time.thank you so much for your post! these videos are really good, for those who visited a bit of ctg. i liked to see my beloved city, although from a different perspective.

i agree with your assessment though. their aim is to be sensational. not all info reported looks true to me. there is some exhageration, as it should be clear to anybody of us.

more details here below.


2. while the discoteques (like ldv) screen for age, there are **** streetwalkers, 15, 16, 17 years old. i've never picked up a sw there that looked young, but if i did, i'd make damn sure i looked at her cedula first.i explored all areas of bogagrande and of el centro, day and night.

i guarantee you that in my 3 times i visited ctg (2006, 2007, 2008) for a total of maybe 12 days i never saw a clear **** sw, neither glue-girls or the like. nobody never offered me such "services".

only once, i met a girl in a club who told me to be 16 (but she looked 20). i prefer a 18yo who looks 16, so i did not inquiry further.

if there are **** sw, they are well away from areas that we tourists can walk. in 2006, there were some poor kids close to reloy, but i hope nobody exploited them for this (i did not see any evidence of it). in 2007 and 2008, everything had been cleaned up even there.

i believe this part of the videos is exhagerated, to make noise and to make the report more sensational.

by the way, "experts" of ctg will recognize that the teen black girls that we see in these videos are not walking in some remote barrio where child prostitution seems to be normal, according to the hilarious reporter, but in front of bar california (see my 2008 report), at the beginning of calle media luna. that is, in a place where everyone can go to check if the video is realistic or not.
some of that teen girls look very young when you look them from far, but you see they are definitely 18+ when you approach them. i think that these videos are quite old. i did not recognize any of that girls.
on the contrary, i recognized the white sexy dress, open on chest, that the youngest-looking black girl was wearing in the video in front of bar california. maybe more girls use the same dress?
seeing that video made me feeling back there <grin>


3. there was a guy who's a director for a ngo that combats prostitution that was hilarious. first he says that thai and japanese sex tourists that come to cartagena prefer pregnant women in their 5th through 7th months. europeans prefer blacks. later he says that while they saw prostitutes 16 and 17 years old back in the 1990's, more recently they're seeing them 8 to 11 years old.this is definitely hilarious. from the video, it seems that in ctg the easiest thing is to find girls of that age! all the opposite. i don't know in the past, but i never saw anything like that, in spite of extensive mongering and contacts with men who offer chicas to tourists. i think police did a good job cleaning up things, if any.


6. they had some info about a couple of italians that were killed in parque de apolo at 10:00 in the morning. the thief did it to get their digital camera. he was quickly aprehended by the police. this sounded like a freak incident to me.. if you've been to parque de apolo during daytime, it seems like the safest place in the world.the 2 italians were a couple used to go to ctg for many years (how to blame them? it's a wonderful place). they were strolling close to parque apollo, on the street outside the walls, and the robberer came out from the bushes at road side.
(so i was told, i did not witness it)

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Ricker
01-07-09, 17:36
Hi Tom 33,

I am sure you would. But still you don't. !

So why that comment of yours. If there is no proof?

Cheers!He just made a comment about a chica dude. Not like this is a court of law with proof required.

Tom's been posting for quite some time, and has helped many guys, don't think he needs to prove himself.

I'm sure he'd post a foto if it was convenient.

Big deal!

PauloThai
01-07-09, 18:57
She looks like a girl I did maybe 4 years ago named Briana. If so, she has not aged well. Four years ago she was a real pain in the ass but very hot.
Tom 33, A comment like yours needs some proof.
Trianna looks are great! Briana looks?
I normally don't post photos anymore, but I would in this case. Hi Tom 33,

I am sure you would. But still you don't!

So why that comment of yours. If there is no proof?

Cheers!

Malodr
01-08-09, 01:15
Hi Tom 33,

I am sure you would. But still you don't!

So why that comment of yours. If there is no proof?

Cheers!Tom lives there so he shouldn't. I returned 2 years later and met up with a chica from 2 years earlier and asked me why I posted her picture on the net.

If you plan on returning, never post pictures.

Kdogg21
01-08-09, 01:32
Black Page, good summary of Cartagena.

The place in the old Giro Matto is Queens. It has a similair set up to the old Tripletera. 10K to get in etc. In aug I took one out of there, they wanted 40K, but settled for 20K, I never paid to get in, so this seemed ok.

My understanding is Electra had cheaper drink prices, (it is the same owners as LDV and the same prces as there) than Giro Matto and no cover to get in, it put Giro Matto out of business.

everything thing else is how I remember it. In August Diva's was closed.

TheShadow2
01-08-09, 01:45
Hi Tom 33,

I am sure you would. But still you don't!

So why that comment of yours. If there is no proof?

Cheers!Tom33 is a well respected member of this board. He has posted countless valuable reports. I've know him personally for more than 4 years. He's fucked more hot colombian tail than any other guy I know, probably more than most guys could even dream about. If he said it, it's gospel in my book.

Black Page
01-08-09, 10:40
He just made a comment about a chica dude. Not like this is a court of law with proof required.Well said! I really dont understand why to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off a well reputed and good contributor member as Tom.

Black Page
01-08-09, 17:23
Black Page, good summary of Cartagena.

The place in the old Giro Matto is Queens. It has a similair set up to the old Tripletera. 10K to get in etc. In aug I took one out of there, they wanted 40K, but settled for 20K, I never paid to get in, so this seemed ok.

My understanding is Electra had cheaper drink prices, (it is the same owners as LDV and the same prces as there) than Giro Matto and no cover to get in, it put Giro Matto out of business.

everything thing else is how I remember it. In August Diva's was closed.Thank you and others who confirmed me that the club I called "XXXX" in my report is actually QUEENS. I was not sure, so I did not want to write something possibly misleading. Now, it's too late to edit my report, unfortunately.

I think Jackson should define some Ultra-Senior membership category (i.e., those with >100 reports or years of memberships with no antagonism) and allow them to edit reports longer. Having a forum under moderation is safe, but not convenient at times.

About "multas" (the fee to pay to take out a girl). So is it true?

I could not believe it, when the guy at the door of Queens asked me to pay it, because I was taking out a girl at 1am-2am or so.

I was not used to multas, so honestly I thought it was a scam attempt for the foreigner tourist. I smiled back, I asked to repeat (pagar? y porque?), then I laughed and I said "you can keep her here if you want me to pay". He let me and her to go, without insisting more. Maybe, it's because he saw me visiting the place (paying drinks) more than once.

About covers, I was surprised to see that all bars this year were asking 10k cover or so (including 1 drink usually). In Dec 2007, I did not pay any cover.

However, in Tu Candela I never paid any cover also this year, after a few minutes of chatting with the door guy the first night. He understood that I knew the place since before (and probably that I was going to pay more in drinks anyway).

Tiny 12
01-08-09, 20:23
Black Page, Another great series of reports, on par with Texans in Bogota. Thanks for taking the time to write them. I'd disagree with a few minor issues. As far as the quality of the food goes, I like La Vitrola much better than Santisimo or Juan del Mar. The ambience is better for your two picks though, and Santisimo at lunch is a good deal cost wise (I've never eaten there at dinner). I've paid more for lodging and food in El Centro than in Boca Grande/Laguito. And my couple of experiences at the Pleyboy Club were better than yours, although I haven't been there in a while.- I guess I've morphed into a lazy gringo that would rather walk down the street from my apartment to LDV instead of getting in a taxi and going somewhere, if I'm looking to do a pro.

Tiny 12
01-08-09, 20:27
Black Page, oops, sorry, about the Texans in Bogota comment, I got you mixed up with Black Knight. Anyway, I did enjoy your Bogota reports.

Kdogg21
01-09-09, 00:23
Thank you and others who confirmed me that the club I called "XXXX" in my report is actually QUEENS. I was not sure, so I did not want to write something possibly misleading. Now, it's too late to edit my report, unfortunately.

I think Jackson should define some Ultra-Senior membership category (i.e., those with >100 reports or years of memberships with no antagonism) and allow them to edit reports longer. Having a forum under moderation is safe, but not convenient at times.

About "multas" (the fee to pay to take out a girl). So is it true?

I could not believe it, when the guy at the door of Queens asked me to pay it, because I was taking out a girl at 1am-2am or so.

I was not used to multas, so honestly I thought it was a scam attempt for the foreigner tourist. I smiled back, I asked to repeat (pagar? y porque?), then I laughed and I said "you can keep her here if you want me to pay". He let me and her to go, without insisting more. Maybe, it's because he saw me visiting the place (paying drinks) more than once.

About covers, I was surprised to see that all bars this year were asking 10k cover or so (including 1 drink usually). In Dec 2007, I did not pay any cover.

However, in Tu Candela I never paid any cover also this year, after a few minutes of chatting with the door guy the first night. He understood that I knew the place since before (and probably that I was going to pay more in drinks anyway).If you ever went to the old tripletera, it is the exact same idea. the girls get in free and have to pay the cover to get out early. 10K. I also belieive it is 10K to get in. So when we left they asked for 40K for me and the girl i laaughed and they dropped it to 20K for both of us.

I also believe Giro matto was the same 10K to get in, but the girls were 10K if they wanted to leave before 6 AM. i remember being in there at 6 Am once and everyone just ran for the door.

Dave Carrera
01-14-09, 02:53
Looking to hire someone who can make sure we have the best high end party and don't get ripped off. Anyone have a suggestion?

Tom 33
01-14-09, 20:54
Looking to hire someone who can make sure we have the best high end party and don't get ripped off. Anyone have a suggestion?
I know a guy who speaks good English and is honest. His name is Mario Pájaro. His cell is [Personal telephone Number deleted by Admin]. I cannot post E-mail addresses.

Among other things, Mario once worked for a Gringo friend who owned a restaurant, the Loco Gringo in Laguito.

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Hilltopper
01-14-09, 21:50
Dave,

Tried to send you some information via a private message, but says you cannot receive messages.

Have you subscribed as a member in order to exchange private messages?


Looking to hire someone who can make sure we have the best high end party and don't get ripped off. Anyone have a suggestion?

Cachorro
01-14-09, 23:11
I don't recall paying cover in Queens.

Cover is/was usually negotiable in Tripletera, Tu Candela etc. They try it on in case you're a sucker fresh off the boat. If you pay, it goes straight in the doorman's pocket.

If you don't pay, you still get in.

I once got hit up for a 30k cover at Elektra (which is a free entrance club). I just looked the guy up and down, told him I'm in Cartagena all the time and was he really going to insist on the cover? The staff guy next to him immediately waved me in.

UrbanWildlife
01-15-09, 04:07
I know a guy who speaks good English and is honest. His name is Mario Pájaro. His cell is [Personal telephone Number deleted by Admin]. I cannot post E-mail addresses.

Among other things, Mario once worked for a Gringo friend who owned a restaurant, the Loco Gringo in Laguito.I know him very well, initially meeting him through Hunter (Dave) and he is a super good guy. I would highly recommend him to you Dave Carrera.

Good call Tom33.

Dave Carrera
01-17-09, 15:57
Thanks everyone for the help re Mario...sorry for the delayed in my appreciation.

PLEASE feel free to contact me anytime with any suggestions for our party weekend. The PM function should work now. The idea is to have some of Colombia's most beautiful women helping the 4 of us unwind by the pool of our house in the San Diego area as well as on a day trip on a private boat to Playa Blanca...4 days of no holds bared fun as long as our energy level allows!

Dave Carrera
01-17-09, 17:26
Thanks again for everyone's help. I'm now (as soon as the membership is processed) a paid member of your community and look forward to getting some of your great advice, sharing my own experiences, and possibly partying with some of you - Dave

Dave Carrera
01-18-09, 17:35
As a first time visitor, I don't want to mess up the pricing scale for everyone, especially those of you who have taken the time to give me some great tips.

What is the normal range that we should expect to pay for women? For example, if we meet someone at the beach during the day, what's reasonable for 2, 3 hours back at the house? What's fair for someone we meet in one of the clubs? Is the price "per pop", or just by the time spent? Also, what about the idea of several girls around the house for a few hours taking care of 4 or 5 guys...how would you expect that to be "priced"?

Maybe some of you know some ladies who would be perfect for our needs...I would greatly appreciate referrals (with photos and cell numbers; email addresses even better!)

As mentioned before, advice appreciated and we are happy to share with those who help us.

Dave

Member #4258
01-18-09, 18:01
Anybody know when this is (in 2009)?

Thanks,

Hoser

DoloresThomas
01-18-09, 20:57
Anybody know when this is (in 2009)?

Thanks,

HoserNovember 10 is a national holiday in Colombia. The pageant is always in the long weekend closest to this date. This year this should be 15 (Sun) and 16 (Mon) for the final events, but full of other stuff the whole week before that.

Tom 33
01-19-09, 01:50
Anybody know when this is (in 2009)?

Thanks,

HoserEvery year it starts around Nov. 1.

The coronation should be on Nov. 16.

Otiers
01-19-09, 02:44
As a first time visitor, I don't want to mess up the pricing scale for everyone, especially those of you who have taken the time to give me some great tips.

What is the normal range that we should expect to pay for women? For example, if we meet someone at the beach during the day, what's reasonable for 2, 3 hours back at the house? What's fair for someone we meet in one of the clubs? Is the price "per pop", or just by the time spent? Also, what about the idea of several girls around the house for a few hours taking care of 4 or 5 guys...how would you expect that to be "priced"?

Maybe some of you know some ladies who would be perfect for our needs...I would greatly appreciate referrals (with photos and cell numbers; email addresses even better!)

As mentioned before, advice appreciated and we are happy to share with those who help us.

DaveJust go and have a good time. Don't think too much before you go because the girls and fun will find you.

Prices can range from 50K for a street girl to 100K for one of Tony's. An LDV girl or an Elektra girl can go for 150K to 200K. There are plenty of reports on price structure on this site, it seems like it is discussed about once every two weeks. It really depends on the girl and what you expect.

Girls in Cartagena are not your typical hard corp girls you see working in other areas (YMMV), They are there to make money, but they treat you like a boyfriend. Some are there for vacation and to make a little extra for school or family. Sometimes if you take them to lunch or invite them for drinks at your pool, they will come over and have fun. Many times without asking for money.

Go to Santo Domingo Square at night and grab a table in Darwin's area (in front of the entrance to the church). He is a good man that speaks English. He will know which girls in the square are available, but remember he is a waiter and not a pimp. Buy him a shot, he will treat you good.

Enjoy yourself but remember to be good to the girls. Most are very nice and are only doing this line of work to feed their families or to make enough for school.

You will want to come back again, so get some cell numbers. Of course these girls seem to change phones often. They either lose thme or they pawn them when they are low on cash. When you plan your next trip, give them a call and they will meet you at the airport.

FYI, I have been to Cartagena at least twenty times in the last five years. I am now married to a Colombiana and we own a three bedroom apartment near the university. Unfortunately, until I can retire, I am stuck in the midwest.

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Treeshark
01-19-09, 15:45
Bought my airline tickets for the trip yesterday. Will be in CTG from middle of Feb to middle of March. Instead of writing one report when I am done, will write reports as I go along.

Now if you want to visit CTG then you will need airline tickets to get there. I tend to be a cheap SOB and think that I saved some money this time.

I used priceline (priceline.com) and good old Captain Kirk saved me enough to buy baby beef and wine in Plaza Santo Domingo my first night. I will give special thanks to Captain Kirk during dinner for my "free" meal. I would suggest you check out priceline when you are looking to buy your tickets. Of course after the trip I may be singing a different song so we will have to see how it all turns out. The game ain't over until the fat lady sings.

I started out with another new site this time to start my airline searches. It is called bookingbuddy (bookingbuddy.com). First time that I had used that one and I liked it. After I finished looking, I decided to try priceline. Only saved about $10-15 on my US flights to Miami (MIA) But I saved $75-80 on my MIA-CTG flights with Avianca. One strange thing. I had multiple screens up on my computer. After I had booked my flight I was looking at the other screens and Orbitz had sent me a message that they now had a new lower fare for me on the MIA-CTG flight that was about $15 more then priceline.

So when checking for airline prices try different sites, try to book 3 to 5 weeks before you go and you know what? Maybe that first chica will be "free".

Of course if using one of my hints saves you $80 then you could use $20 of that savings to buy a membership to this site. I think it is called karma.

GringoLoco2
01-21-09, 13:05
Just curious. Where you staying in Cartagena for that long? I arrive in Cartagena mid feb and thought about spending a week there and then hitting carnival in barranquilla.


Bought my airline tickets for the trip yesterday. Will be in CTG from middle of Feb to middle of March. Instead of writing one report when I am done, will write reports as I go along.

Now if you want to visit CTG then you will need airline tickets to get there. I tend to be a cheap SOB and think that I saved some money this time.

I used priceline (priceline.com) and good old Captain Kirk saved me enough to buy baby beef and wine in Plaza Santo Domingo my first night. I will give special thanks to Captain Kirk during dinner for my "free" meal. I would suggest you check out priceline when you are looking to buy your tickets. Of course after the trip I may be singing a different song so we will have to see how it all turns out. The game ain't over until the fat lady sings.

I started out with another new site this time to start my airline searches. It is called bookingbuddy (bookingbuddy.com). First time that I had used that one and I liked it. After I finished looking, I decided to try priceline. Only saved about $10-15 on my US flights to Miami (MIA) But I saved $75-80 on my MIA-CTG flights with Avianca. One strange thing. I had multiple screens up on my computer. After I had booked my flight I was looking at the other screens and Orbitz had sent me a message that they now had a new lower fare for me on the MIA-CTG flight that was about $15 more then priceline.

So when checking for airline prices try different sites, try to book 3 to 5 weeks before you go and you know what? Maybe that first chica will be "free".

Of course if using one of my hints saves you $80 then you could use $20 of that savings to buy a membership to this site. I think it is called karma.

Havahopeful
01-22-09, 02:17
Gringo Loco 2.

I think we met at the mansion last year. I'm going back around to Cartagena for an extended stay in February and was also planning to hit Carnaval in Barranquila for a few nights but the hotels are getting expensive.

I'm waiting to hear back from the all the apartment guys I emailed earlier today and I already have had some positive responses.

PM me for details

Treeshark
01-22-09, 03:51
Just curious. Where you staying in Cartagena for that long? I arrive in Cartagena mid feb and thought about spending a week there and then hitting carnival in barranquilla.Where am I staying?

Damned if I know.

I used the web sites to check on hotel prices and was a bit shocked at prices.

Have considered Hotel Monterrey over by the convention center for my first night or two. If you have one of the front rooms that face to the clock tower, you have that great view. Not a bad place and I can walk to my first night dinner in the old city.

Now over in the beach area, remember the 2 supermercadios that are open 24 hours a day. Well if you walk out of the door of the one that is the closest to the beach, and start walking down the one way street there like you are going to the old city. There is a hotel on your left. First one that you come to. I stayed there last time and liked it plus it was like a 10 minute walk to my dentist from there. Cost me about $60 a night then.

Near Hotel Almirante is the country club. Right across the street is another hotel that I have stayed at for about $55 a night. Can not remember the names of the last two hotels.

But the odds are that I will be at one of those three for my first night. I am also thinking about talking to Juan and renting one of his apartments. I would like to rent that great penthouse for a few days and party with some of my chica amigas.

I have been going to CTG for about 10 years now so not really concerned about finding a place to stay. Once I am there, I can visit different places and bargain a bit.

Great call on your part to visit the carnival in Barranquilla. I have never been to the carnival there but my colombian friends have told me how great it is.

Gonzo
01-23-09, 07:53
I'll be back mid-February myself, staying at Tom33's place in Playa Mar. If any of you guys want to hook up and have a beer, let do it. I'll probably be spending time on the 'stag bench' in front of the Playa Mar apartment with Big Jim, shooting the sh*t and talking about and meeting chicas.

As far as the Carnaval is concerned, I was able to book a hotel via Expedia for the weekend nights. Bound to be an interesting time, to say the least. I was surprised that I got a room, probably the global recession is hitting CO also.


Where am I staying?

Damned if I know.

Great call on your part to visit the carnival in Barranquilla. I have never been to the carnival there but my colombian friends have told me how great it is.

Treeshark
01-24-09, 01:06
I'll be back mid-February myself, staying at Tom33's place in Playa Mar. If any of you guys want to hook up and have a beer, let do it. I'll probably be spending time on the 'stag bench' in front of the Playa Mar apartment with Big Jim, shooting the sh*t and talking about and meeting chicas.

As far as the Carnaval is concerned, I was able to book a hotel via Expedia for the weekend nights. Bound to be an interesting time, to say the least. I was surprised that I got a room, probably the global recession is hitting CO also.I will bring some beer and meet you at the "stag bench". Drinking some beer with you and Big Jim, shooting sheet and talking about and meeting chicas sounds pretty damn good to me.

Normally I tend to be a lone wolf but thought that it might be interesting to meet some new people this time. Normally the only gringos I meet in CTG are US undercover agents. Have always been real nice guys but would be nice to see someone who is not checking me out to see if I am involved in the drug trade.

Two great calls on your part Gonzo. Going to the Barranquilla carnival and using Tom33's apartment. I guess you will have a couple chicas a day knocking on the door looking for Tom33!!! I have never met Tom33 but we have a mutual friend.

Mule69
01-24-09, 06:42
I will bring some beer and meet you at the "stag bench". Drinking some beer with you and Big Jim, shooting sheet and talking about and meeting chicas sounds pretty damn good to me.

Normally I tend to be a lone wolf but thought that it might be interesting to meet some new people this time. Normally the only gringos I meet in CTG are US undercover agents. Have always been real nice guys but would be nice to see someone who is not checking me out to see if I am involved in the drug trade.

Two great calls on your part Gonzo. Going to the Barranquilla carnival and using Tom33's apartment. I guess you will have a couple chicas a day knocking on the door looking for Tom33!!! I have never met Tom33 but we have a mutual friend.
I don't know about knocking on his door but they sure still call his apartamento. Some chica from Bogota kept calling at least once a day last year and wanted to bullshit with me, but my caveman espanol just seemed to amuse her. Maybe she thought I was Tom33!

Treeshark
01-25-09, 19:47
I don't know about knocking on his door but they sure still call his apartamento. Some chica from Bogota kept calling at least once a day last year and wanted to bullshit with me, but my caveman espanol just seemed to amuse her. Maybe she thought I was Tom33!Maybe you should have invited her to visit you at Tom's place. You could have offered her 30K for una or dos horas de sexo. I know that is more then Tom usually pays but sometimes it is fun to overpay.

Have been messing around looking for a hotel room and found two more search sites. One is called onetime at onetime.com. It is a search engine that connects you to other sites to search. It is like bookingbuddy.

The other site is kayak at kayak.com It will show you prices on other sites. Kayak came up with a price of $48 a night for Cartagena Plaza Hotel. I believe that is the one that is near Almirante and the little police station in the park. Has anyone ever stayed there?? It is only for a single but two nights there would give me a chance to check out other places. Also when walking by, I have noticed that quite often there seems to be groups of chicas that stay there. Might be like letting the fox into the chicken coop.

If the prices that I am seeing on the web is what the hotels are really charging when you walk in and talk to them, then renting an apartment is the best way to go.

Havahopeful, could you perhaps give a rough idea of the prices that the apartment people are giving you. Nothing exact, just a rough range.

Also an invitation to both Havahopeful and GringoLoco2 to meet up for a beer.

Also in a previous post I had mentioned a hotel near the country club. The name is Hotel Bahia. Seems to be $84 a night lowest price. Has hot water, was very chica friendly and a nice pool. A bar and restaurant down by the pool. You are like 3 blocks from the ocean and maybe a 10 minute walk to LDV. I have spent at least 60 days there in the past.

Rumpus
01-26-09, 08:08
First trip to CTG, sans-novia tonight so did quick checkout of the scene.

Around 11pm, walked past Elktra in Centro, street deserted, didn't go in.

Around 11:30, stopped by LDV. For about an hour, the ratio of chicas to guys was 3:1. Around 12:30 more guys came in and less chicks were still there, for about a 2:1 ratio. Chicas a bit older and a bit larger than I'm used to elsewhere in Colombia. (larger frames, larger builds, a bit chunkier, squared faces) Not my cup of tea though I know tastes vary.

An aguila was $7k, no cover.

I'd say the chicas were mostly 6-7s, some 8s. A couple of outliers 5s and 9s. For you guys who like your chicks meaty, move my ratings up a notch. Not a destination, for my tastes, but convenient to the large tourist hotels nearby.

One of few chicks to my taste (slender build) quoted $200K, lined up with what reports here said to expect for LDV (on the low end even), so I didn't haggle.

Went to a por-rato hotel, forget the name, within 5 min taxi ride. $30k for an hour there.

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Havahopeful
01-26-09, 18:47
I got a 2 bedroom 2 bath in Laguito for 150, 000 a night and for the nights when I will only be using one bedroom 110, 000 a night. I might have gotten a better rate because I booked for a large number of days

Its in the Torre Centauro building which I stayed in last year as well. Building has everything I need but could be nicer. Biggest downside to it is the family room is not airconditioned but the bedrooms are.

I have been dealing with Dave at Colombiarental, I had a pretty good experience with him last year.

Always up for meeting for a drink as I'll be alone the first 10 days of the trip. I met some great non pros last year that I have kept in touch with and are a lot of fun.

Still searching for Barranquila places to stay during Carnaval.

If anyone has any ideas let me know.

Treeshark
01-26-09, 20:20
I got a 2 bedroom 2 bath in Laguito for 150, 000 a night and for the nights when I will only be using one bedroom 110, 000 a night. I might have gotten a better rate because I booked for a large number of days

Its in the Torre Centauro building which I stayed in last year as well. Building has everything I need but could be nicer. Biggest downside to it is the family room is not airconditioned but the bedrooms are.

I have been dealing with Dave at Colombiarental, I had a pretty good experience with him last year.

Always up for meeting for a drink as I'll be alone the first 10 days of the trip. I met some great non pros last year that I have kept in touch with and are a lot of fun.

Still searching for Barranquila places to stay during Carnaval.

If anyone has any ideas let me know.For BAQ for Friday 2/20 to Monday 2/23 for 1 room 2 people I found 2 hotels.

On hotelscombined.com they had San Francisco Hotel Barranquilla for $130 a night.

On hotels.com they had Barranquilla Plaza for $154 a night.

Everywhere else I looked said no rooms.

You could ask Dave at Colombiarental for help. Or rent a taxi to take you back and forth. You meet someone you like, invite her to spend the night with you in CTG. Of course knowing the crazy Colombians, they will party all night anyway.

Member #3435
01-27-09, 04:17
I got a 2 bedroom 2 bath in Laguito for 150, 000 a night and for the nights when I will only be using one bedroom 110, 000 a night. I might have gotten a better rate because I booked for a large number of days

Its in the Torre Centauro building which I stayed in last year as well. Building has everything I need but could be nicer. Biggest downside to it is the family room is not airconditioned but the bedrooms are.

I have been dealing with Dave at Colombiarental, I had a pretty good experience with him last year.

Always up for meeting for a drink as I'll be alone the first 10 days of the trip. I met some great non pros last year that I have kept in touch with and are a lot of fun.

Still searching for Barranquila places to stay during Carnaval.

If anyone has any ideas let me know.Regarding BQ: That's a tough one. I tried same as you trying to get recs for apts in BQ a couple of years back and had no luck ( but I think they exists). Juan Ventura has no places or contacts in BQ.
Carnaval time is very difficult.
My rec is just get the best rate in adavance at the best chica friendly place you know of.

Otherwise, you'll be SOL.

But don't expect many bargains. It's all premium pricing at that time of year in BQ.

Scwmm

Loumann
01-29-09, 23:39
I am heading down to Cartagena at the end of February.

It's my first down there in a couple of years.

Can anyone fill me in on the the chica fees at the big hotels?

Hilton, Almirante, Hotel Dann?

Member #4258
01-31-09, 03:24
I am heading down to Cartagena at the end of February.

It's my first down there in a couple of years.

Can anyone fill me in on the the chica fees at the big hotels?

Hilton, Almirante, Hotel Dann?I've never stayed at the Hilton but my novia told me that it's no problem. She had stayed a few times. The chica needs to have a cedula and must be presentable. No fee. I would actually like you to stay and report back if this is all true. I've got a ton of points I'd like to use my next trip.

Hoser

Loumann
01-31-09, 20:57
Thanks you Hoser.

I'm really not sure where I will be staying but am comparing all my notes & will make a decision as the time grows closer.

Will certainly keep you posted if I decide to stay at one of the major hotels.

Jelly Donut
02-01-09, 18:07
I am heading down to Cartagena at the end of February.

It's my first down there in a couple of years.

Can anyone fill me in on the the chica fees at the big hotels?

Hilton, Almirante, Hotel Dann?One thing I've done in Cartagena is take girls to Las Dunas, which is a upscale 'love motel' between the airport and the old city. I don't think this option has made it into the "Cartagena Lists" section yet.

It's a well-kept and safe place. A "Suite Especial" runs about $30,000 COP (current about $12.33 USD) for 2 hours. Plus cab fare. This sort of suite typically has a big mirror over the bed and some hardware for sitting the chica down in different positions. Shower. Bathroom. Not many apartments or upscale hotels in Cartagena are outfited with a big mirror above the bed; it's a nice touch when the girl is blowing you crazy and you're just enjoying the vista.

Keeping the girl out of your hotel gives you some options in terms of hitting on non-pro girls in Cartagena. It's much easier to flirt with the reception girls if you appear to be a non-sex tourist. Your stuff is generally safer if you can keep the sex worker out of your hotel room. A little Spanish, a nice hotel and the apperance being a straight American dude have worked very well for me with non-pros.

Using the suites, no one gives me the eye or beats me up over extra charges in hotels. It also gives a option for a private place to take a non-pro who does not want to appear like a sex worker.

It also helped to move my center of attention out of Laguito/Bocagrande, which has paid off well for me.

Anyway, I've had good luck with making this motel part of my routine in Cartagena and thought I'd toss it out there. The address for Las Dunas is Canapote, Carrera 17 No 62-19. Most cab drivers should know the way without the full address.

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Black Page
02-02-09, 13:35
One thing I've done in Cartagena is take girls to Las Dunas, which is a upscale 'love motel' between the airport and the old city. I don't think this option has made it into the "Cartagena Lists" section yet.I agree it is excellent, but pls note that I mentioned Las Dunas (or "Dunes") twice in my detailed reports on CTG (2007 and 2008). Last time:

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I usually go to Haiba, though.

Mule69
02-02-09, 17:48
I've never stayed at the Hilton but my novia told me that it's no problem. She had stayed a few times. The chica needs to have a cedula and must be presentable. No fee. I would actually like you to stay and report back if this is all true. I've got a ton of points I'd like to use my next trip.

HoserThe Cartagena Hilton is not the place to bring a working girl.They will make it uncomfortable and if she is too outrageous probably she will not get in.I have been going to Laguito for 4 years and use their ATM at least 7 times a trip and the guard has stopped me on occasion to wand me.High class Colombians are their main patrons and they do not appreciate the ho's and gringos.I have stayed once and it is way overpriced for the area.I would try another hotel if an apartment is not wanted.

Treeshark
02-02-09, 17:58
i am heading down to cartagena at the end of february.

it's my first down there in a couple of years.

can anyone fill me in on the the chica fees at the big hotels?

hilton, almirante, hotel dann?if you rent the room for two and have the chica sign in with you or the first time she goes to the hotel, there is no problem.

if not then hilton will not let you bring anyone in (sometimes you can sneak them in during the day, but no way at night)

almirante charges $40 a night for a guest.

hotel dann or las velas as it was called is right by hollywood beach. no problems with guests but guest fee varies depending on their mood.

i read somewhere that the pool is being fixed which is their best feature. and if you go the beach, i am sure that the mafia crackhead tony will certainly impress your novia. i am sure he will be happy to help your novia make some extra money when you are not around. crackhead and his gang are mafia. i have met two of his bosses. they go in and out of jail for stealing from tourists on the beach there. crackhead is well known for the **** chicas he provides. and some american tourists have been blackmailed over the **** chicas. needless to say, i would stay away from las velas.

Black Page
02-02-09, 19:16
If you rent the room for two and have the chica sign in with you or the first time she goes to the hotel, there is no problem.

If not then Hilton will not let you bring anyone in (sometimes you can sneak them in during the day, but no way at night)

Almirante charges $40 a night for a guest.

Hotel Dann or Las Velas as it was called is right by hollywood beach. No problems with guests but guest fee varies depending on their mood.Once again, why so many are so willing to bring a chica in their hotel room?? For $10-$20, you get a luxury room at Haiba or Dunes. (see my reports quoted below). No hassle, no danger, no harm to privacy.

AddictedToWomen
02-02-09, 20:19
The Cartagena Hilton is not the place to bring a working girl.They will make it uncomfortable and if she is too outrageous probably she will not get in.I have been going to Laguito for 4 years and use their ATM at least 7 times a trip and the guard has stopped me on occasion to wand me.High class Colombians are their main patrons and they do not appreciate the ho's and gringos.I have stayed once and it is way overpriced for the area.I would try another hotel if an apartment is not wanted.This gringo has stayed there with his gf, tho not wg, and met with narry a slightly off look. Most friendly, staff and other guests alike.

But I would agree its overpriced.

UrbanWildlife
02-02-09, 21:23
if you go the beach, i am sure that the mafia crackhead tony will certainly impress your novia. i am sure he will be happy to help your novia make some extra money when you are not around. crackhead and his gang are mafia. i have met two of his bosses. they go in and out of jail for stealing from tourists on the beach there. crackhead is well known for the **** chicas he provides. and some american tourists have been blackmailed over the **** chicas. sorry to say treeshark but i think you have totally lost it!. as i have posted before, and i do know tony very well, he is far from being associated with any type of organized crime, and i have never heard of him stealing anything from anyone. actually he is quite the opposite when it comes to watching your belongings. he might overcharge for his services, and he can be a real pain in the ass, but he will never take any of your property. infact, one of the things i like most about tony is the fact i can go out in the ocean and i know my things will be safe. not sure what type of person you are, or who the hell has provided you this information but it is not accurate. i am curious as to how your spanish speaking skills are? i only ask because i am thinking maybe you have interpreted something that might have been said wrong.

this tony thing has been posted and talked about on numerous occasions, including not that long ago, people enjoy him, or they seem to hate him. i find him to be rather amusing, entertaining, and comical, as well as being a pain in the butt. the beach is his livelihood, and he works it hard. you cannot blame him for that, as it pays his rent, puts food in his mouth, and takes care of all his responsibilities and habits he might have. i give the guy credit for not just sitting on his ass. if he was such a mafioso, why the fuck would he be working the beach?. lastly, if he was such this awful person, why do so many people who go to the beach in cartagena ask for him?. there is not another hussler on the beach who has such a following as tony does. there is a reason for this, and it is not because he is a mafioso or stealing from others.
your post has left me just shaking my head and saying to myself is this guy real. i will have to ask tony this weekend about being a mafioso. it should be interesting.

Treeshark
02-03-09, 06:56
and i have never heard of him stealing anything from anyone. but he will never take any of your property.he has stolen from me urbanwildlife so now you have heard of him stealing from someone.

are you saying that your good buddy crackhead does not pimp **** chicas? that he has never pimped an **** chica or offered anyone sex with an **** chica? which is against colombian law.

or that emily was arrested by the police because one of the gang stole a camera from a tourist and it was found in her bag?

ask crackhead while having a coffee with him at las velas. oh, i forgot, he is not allowed on the property of las velas. i wonder why?

be honest urbanwildlife, if you were going to a high society gathering with people like the mayor and chief of police of cartagena present, would you take crackhead along with you and introduce him to everyone as your good buddy?

lol