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You Can
09-15-10, 00:08
These reports day by day by Otiers, are off the hook, they are almost like something out of a novel. Anyway they are excellent. Great reading.


I have never seen the report like this. Detail.informative. And passionate. Your wife is also very generous.

Ricker
09-15-10, 00:26
Only 3 Times??? That's quite laughable, Ricker has been known to give them at 8 or 10 orgasms at time and leave them begging for more!Funny M-Heat hahahahajejejeje.

Remeber that was a running joke a while back when that other guy was posting about how many orgasms his chicas were having.

Haven't heard from you in a bit mi amigo.

Hope all is well.

I think I'm going to make a quick to trip to Cartagena, a few days maybe.

I dig Medellin but I think a stop in Cartagena is in order.

Como esta tu Calena?

Talk to ya soon.

Otiers
09-15-10, 02:30
Day Five

After Patricia left and I climbed into bed all I could think of is how satisfied I was in the first four days and the next two days will be anticlimactic. My wife and I discussed how I needed to spend time with my 12 year old stepson since I am the only father he knows.

My wife left about 11:00 am to head home and pay for her electric, gas and other services. She would then come back at 7:00 with my stepson after he got home from school. So I had about 8 hours to enjoy the fruits of Colombia.

I decided to take a walk along the beach and the usual culprits were there trying to extract money from me. I was surprised that Tony was not there this day, which was OK by me. I walked on past Hollywood Beach for about two miles and headed back. On the way back, Momma Rosa spotted me and prepared a fruit plate. I gave her 10K just because she always is fun to talk to and she needs the money. After I finished, I headed back down the beach towards the apartment where I needed a dip in the pool. Before I left the beach, a younger massage girl carrying her supplies in her small bucket asked if I wanted a massage. After my walk, my legs were hurting, so I thought why not. The massage girls are from the poorer area of Cartagena and will provide a good hard massage. She was a very dark skinned girl of about 20 years old and was rather tall about 5'8" and thin. Back in the apartment, she had me take a shower while she prepared the bed with towels. I came out and laid on my stomach. She started with my head, working from the top, then down the side to my ears and then to the neck. I do not remember her massaging my back because I was looking forward to her getting to my aching legs and feet. She did not disappoint. Those strong hands worked my legs and feet for almost 10 minutes and as she moved up my leg, she would lightly touch my balls and my ass crack. She turned me over and started with my feet and worked her way up my legs. Once again, she would brush my balls and cock as she moved to my torso. Once she got to my face, she would lean forward to let her tits brush my stomach. She rubbed my temples and face and I was just totally relaxed. As I lay there with my eyes half closed with relaxation, she took off her clothes. That thin body actually looked great with natural pointy tits and a full bush of curly pubic hair. She took out some oil and poured it on my chest. She then climbed on top of me and started to move up and down my body gliding from one end to another and all the while my cock was getting stroked by her body. I would have been satisfied with this alone, but then she provided me a great BBJ. I blew into her mouth and she let it drip back down all over me. She then used both hands to stroke me until I was done releasing my milk. She got dressed and ran to get a cloth to wash me. She then grabbed my clothes and proceeded to dress me. All of this and she asked me for 50K. I had never had a massage from one of the girls from the beach and this was a great experience after my long walk.

I took a quick taxi to the McDonalds to get a Quarterpounder, fries and a diet coke. This is the first time I have eaten at McDonalds for about a year and it tasted great. After I ate, I decided to walk back to the apartment. By the time I got there, it was about 4:30 and it was fishin' time. I sat outside of Playa Mar to talk with an ex-pat who lived there and we solved the world's problems in that half hour time. So many girls were walking past, but I kept my eye open for Claudia since this would be my last chance. About five minutes later, off in the distance, I thought I spotted her. Slowly up the street comes my favorite and she looked up and saw me. About 50 yards away she gave me a wave, but stayed on the opposite side of the street. When she was close enough I gave a casual wave for her to come over to where I was sitting. I needed to be discreet so my wife's friends would not notice. The gentleman I was with talked to her for a few minutes while I casually walked to my apartment. She soon followed and I got a call from the reception desk if Claudia could come up. I kinda said " Uh yeah" and in two minutes we were greeting each other like I just came home from the war.

Our time together this time was just as memorable as the other times, but I knew this would be the last time with her. She was unaware that I would be "papi" for the next day and a half while I entertained my stepson. As she kissed me goodbye and headed out the door, my heart sank knowing I would not be able to kiss those full lips or grab that great ass one more time. Also, in my mind, I am still not certain if my wife will get her visa.

I love my wife for her beauty, vitality, sense of humor, and charm, but there will always be those cultural differences which conflict with everything I know. That is I work hard and be frugal if I am short of cash. For her, if she has 50K in her pocket at the end of the night, it was not a good night. She showed up at 7:30 and we headed to the cinema to watch some 3-D movie in Spanish. I forget the name of it, but it is playing at the local theater here in my hometown. I used this time to grab a nice nap and the only time I awoke was when I felt a hand on my left leg. I then realized my wife was on my right. Next to me was a cute woman about 25 on a date with some loser looking guy. She was attractive and I am not sure if he put her up to it when they saw me napping. It did keep me awake and I gave a quick smile to my molester. When the movie was over I got a better look of her before we all left. As I got up my neighbor decided to get one last feel and she grabbed my cock while her boyfriend was not looking. As she left she was smiling and laughing as they walked down the stairs. Her boyfriend looked a little annoyed, so perhaps she turned the tables on him and I was an innocent victim.

The rest of the night was a few whiskies with my wife while my stepson watched TV.

Day Six

Today will be one with no sex except with my wife in the morning while my stepson slept. After breakfast we headed on the bus to the Comcel office to buy a Wifi device for my stepson. By 10:00 my wife decided to go get her hair done and run some errands. She told me she would be back by 3:30. My stepson looked at me as she was leaving and let out a cheer "let's go find some Chicas". He takes after me after all. The rest of the day was spent at the pool. An evening Mexican meal of fajitas and burritos finished off a fine family day, but the food would be my wake-up call in the middle of the night.

My wife and I went to the casino and we played until the last 20K left my pocket. Our friend Patricia stopped by and greeted us with a kiss and a hug. After a few minutes of talk, she headed back over to LDV. My wife can spend hours at he casino talking to her friends and LaPerla is casual in that they do not rush you into losing your money. They take your money slowly.

For those looking to get involved with a Colombian woman, understand they love their country. Many may be poor, but they are happy and they will make you feel like you are the only person in the world. They will make their family the highest priority and expect you to pay for dinner for her family and the occasional hospital bill. I have even paid for my sister-in-law's funeral this past March. I visited her hometown of Monteria a few years ago and she invited the entire neighborhood for food, rum, beer, and music. It lasted until 7:00 in the morning when a bus appeared and everyone piled into the bus and headed to a beach midway back to Cartagena. If you ever experience this, do not be surprised when the bus pulls up to an ATM and everyone on the bus looks at you. This happened to me and it made me feel pretty bad and I was angry with my wife, but she looked at me and explained that the $250. 00 we spent the night before and that day at the beach for 25 people would be forgotten in about a week, but this day will be remembered by 25 people for the rest of their lives.

This is the logic of my wife and why I still love her and will continue to work with her to bring her back home. I let off much pent up sexual energy and was not sure where my marriage was heading. Language issues made it difficult to fully trust each other, but once you sit down and realize you both want the same thing, everything becomes clear in your head.

Those that have never left the secure life they hide behind in their office, big rig, or any other 8 – 5 job, my life may not make much sense. I have enjoyed the company of many young ladies this past week and I have made a few of them friends of mine. I let one young lady Alex steal my heart, but realize she will be successful in life in whatever she decides to do and I will be long forgotten. I got reacquainted with an old friend in Sandra and she provided me with an ear for me to tell her my perceived marital problems. I met a sweet young girl in Carolina with her braces filled smile that made me feel young again. I had my head and heart turned inside out by an energetic and stimulating woman in Claudia.

To some, my posts may seem long and self serving, but if you get out and smile, talk and understand these outstanding young ladies of Colombia, you will feel the need to write your thoughts and feelings in long prose like I have done. If you come here to just drink, screw as many girls as you can and do not remember anything about them, then your memories will run into one forgotten pool.

The real shame is many of these girls will return to their homes and you will never see them again. Some of these ladies will be broken and some will have memories of the gringo that made her feel like a queen for one night. For me, I try to make each one to feel important and not broken. What happens next for me and my wife is not certain, but it is clearer where we are headed.

I wish you all the best and hope you enjoy Cartagena as much as I have over the past seven years and as much as I will continue to enjoy in the future.

Welcome to my world and realize, I figured out this week my wife and stepson are important to me and I do not want it any differently.

Back Home

My wife has gotten her new appointment date at the embassy in October and if everything goes well, they will come home in November when my stepson is finished with his school year.

I got an email from Claudia today and she wanted to thank me the time we spent together. She told me she was sorry that she did not get to say goodbye to me and understands I want to have my wife in my life. She asked me to keep a small piece of my heart available for her so she can be my friend. You can't beat that.

MiamiHeatLuver
09-15-10, 18:21
Funny M-Heat hahahahajejejeje.

Remeber that was a running joke a while back when that other guy was posting about how many orgasms his chicas were having.

Haven't heard from you in a bit mi amigo.

Hope all is well.

I think I'm going to make a quick to trip to Cartagena, a few days maybe.

I dig Medellin but I think a stop in Cartagena is in order.

Como esta tu Calena?

Talk to ya soon.Jejejejeeje, LOL remember that guy? That was some funny shit! Everything good on the Caleña front, but its looking more and more that I will be the eternal bachelor, who knows? LOL Lets keep in touch hermano. Going to D. R. For the weekend with the boys, we always have a ball no matter what. Stay well!

Otiers
09-15-10, 22:21
Otiers,

Why the name change to Thair9999?I could not figure that out either why somebody would repost my report.

Otiers
09-15-10, 22:24
Jejejejeeje, LOL remember that guy? That was some funny shit! Everything good on the Caleña front, but its looking more and more that I will be the eternal bachelor, who knows? LOL Lets keep in touch hermano. Going to D. R. For the weekend with the boys, we always have a ball no matter what. Stay well!By all means, I wasn't meaning to post the number of orgasms as some sort of conquest. I thought it might be valuable information for others to guage if the girl was a dead fish or really enjoyed being with me.

I take no offense and I thought your comment was funny.

Aba Corrado
09-19-10, 01:32
Hey all you swingin dicks or stationary dicks for that matter, I'm off to cartagena. I arrive Monday, so if anyone has any requests as for as info you would like me to get, drop me a line.

Thats all for now, off to the land of tits for money!

Black Page
09-19-10, 02:22
Hi all.

I am in CTG. I promise some interesting report from here, MDE and BOG once I have time (after my return). In the meanwhile, I have a question for expert regulars of the place.

Yesterday, on my first night here, I went to Queens. A small group of girls, mostly nice, some really attractive.

I chatted with one (10k my first drink, 16k my second! 16k her drink! I am used to BOG and MDE prices and this really hurted me) and she told me 200k for her but there is 70k exit fee to pay to Queens (multa). She told me that the multa is mandatory and for everyone. No way to avoid, because I met her there.

I NEVER paid any multa in CTG in my life. Only once, years ago, I was asked to pay it exiting Queens with a girl. I laughed back "you can keep her here" and then they left me go with the girl without paying.

My question to expert regulars: is that true? Now Queens (LDV?) introduced the multa system? Since when?

Or this was just a scam attempt?

Please help me to understand.

Thanks all.

PS: No, I did not pay. I will write what I did in my report.

Black Hawk69
09-19-10, 06:21
Queen always has had a house fee. It has been that way from day one.

LocoGringo
09-19-10, 11:41
All the casas or bars where the girls live charge an exit fee. The fee ranges from 200,000 at Rosario house to 60,000 at Lindas chicas. LDV is for free lance chicas that have an apartment or hotel room. On my last trip the asking price was 3-400,000 there and they would go for 120-160,000 short time in your apartment. At the casas there is always Paradiso with rooms on premises (nicest in Cartagena) for 150,000 to 200,000. The newest I have been to is Linda chicas. There are 3 bars/casas in a row that the locals use with Liondas chicas being the best, maaany chicas, some jewels. On site is 90,000 for 30 minutes or 60,000 exit fee and 200,000 for the chica all night. I am told that the locals pay less, maybe we need to do bait and switch. Pleyboy always has a good selection but is overpriced, even by Cartagena prices. Comparing Cartagena to Medellin or Bogota for price will give you sticker shock. Go to the playa during the day, get numbers from the casa chicas when you are there. Usually they are free during the day and negotable on price. Lindas chicas is fuckin loud, crowded with locals on Friday/Saturday night. Try it at 8 P.M. on Monday-Thursday, imho.

You Can
09-20-10, 01:17
I'm right behind you, Thursday can't get here quick enough.


Hey all you swingin dicks or stationary dicks for that matter, I'm off to cartagena. I arrive Monday, so if anyone has any requests as for as info you would like me to get, drop me a line.

Thats all for now, off to the land of tits for money!

DirkDingy
09-20-10, 06:31
Hi,

For 750-1000 USD per month for a one month rental what level of accomodation can one expect in Cartegenga? I'm looking for luxury and location over size? Thanks.

If anyone is intertested in sharing a very nice place for the month of October please let me know.

DD

Black Page
09-21-10, 00:46
Queen always has had a house fee. It has been that way from day one.Believe it or not, but I NEVER paid a multa at Queens. In past years, I took some girls from there. This year, I simply changed club.

Maybe in the past girls paid the multa from their pocket and I did not know.

Riki 011
09-21-10, 02:27
It is my first report after reading so many from other posters. I am 38 and very picky regarding women beauty and after 24 h in Cartagena I think that potential is there but you have to know what are you doing and to have some luck.

My first night:

I ended up in Bananas or something llike that (El Centro) through a local guy who took me there while I was touring and enjoying old city. Around 9 pm they had 3-4 girls and one that I really liked (what a nice surprise) and soon I was on my way to El Laguito where I am located. Deal was 200k TLN and I paid everything to a bar owner or manager in front of the girl, how much she got I don't know and I gave 20k to a local guy and 10k for girls taxi back.

Girl was very friendly (I can't remember name, shame on me) and nice looking on a taller side. Really, she had great attitude lot of kissing, smiling which I really enjoyed. Minus was CBJ and the second bigger minus was that after hour or so she started dressing and that was it. I mention to her that deal in a bar was for whole night but no big discussion from my part I let her go. She asked me would I like to see her tomorrow but I declined. I have to be honest I don't speak spanish and when you have other guy who translate for you these thing can happen. Still I paid 200k for a hour with really nice girl and I gave 20k to a guy who took me there as his "friend". Not the best deal ever, but at the end of the day I had great time with her. My point of view regarding money and girls is that I like to get best possible deal, but in same time quality (for my personal taste) is something that is really far more important than a good deal as long as I can afford.

After that around 23 30 I went to LDV and was so, so. About 15-20 girls girls but nothing to rave about. I bought a drink to one girl from Cali and had some chat only on her insisting, but I did not want to ask for a price, she wasn't my cup of the tea. I saw one blond with big tits nice thin body, but she left before I had chance to talk to her. At the end I didn't bring anything from LDV, but I'll check again, I guess you have to have some luck too.

Overal I have nice place as base (rented from Juan), lot of positive energy and I'll see how things are going to develop.

One more time thanks guys for all your postings!

John Gault
09-21-10, 13:18
It is my first report after reading so many from other posters. I am 38 and very picky regarding women beauty and after 24 h in Cartagena I think that potential is there but you have to know what are you doing and to have some luck.

My first night:

I ended up in Bananas or something llike that (El Centro) through a local guy who took me there while I was touring and enjoying old city. Around 9 pm they had 3-4 girls and one that I really liked (what a nice surprise) and soon I was on my way to El Laguito where I am located. Deal was 200k TLN and I paid everything to a bar owner or manager in front of the girl, how much she got I don't know and I gave 20k to a local guy and 10k for girls taxi back.

Girl was very friendly (I can't remember name, shame on me) and nice looking on a taller side. Really, she had great attitude lot of kissing, smiling which I really enjoyed. Minus was CBJ and the second bigger minus was that after hour or so she started dressing and that was it. I mention to her that deal in a bar was for whole night but no big discussion from my part I let her go. She asked me would I like to see her tomorrow but I declined. I have to be honest I don't speak spanish and when you have other guy who translate for you these thing can happen. Still I paid 200k for a hour with really nice girl and I gave 20k to a guy who took me there as his "friend". Not the best deal ever, but at the end of the day I had great time with her. My point of view regarding money and girls is that I like to get best possible deal, but in same time quality (for my personal taste) is something that is really far more important than a good deal as long as I can afford.

After that around 23 30 I went to LDV and was so, so. About 15-20 girls girls but nothing to rave about. I bought a drink to one girl from Cali and had some chat only on her insisting, but I did not want to ask for a price, she wasn't my cup of the tea. I saw one blond with big tits nice thin body, but she left before I had chance to talk to her. At the end I didn't bring anything from LDV, but I'll check again, I guess you have to have some luck too.

Overal I have nice place as base (rented from Juan), lot of positive energy and I'll see how things are going to develop.

One more time thanks guys for all your postings!After LDV closes head to the old city and go to Electra. You will find some real stunners there and don't pay more than 100K as at that time of the night the girls are kind of desperate and are looking to make milk money. I have seen my friend take a stone 9 out of there for 70K. Also don't even worry about TLN at that time of the night. Just get your one good pop out of a fine looking woman.

Cubfan1963
09-21-10, 18:35
sorry, this is a long time coming. hopefully i can remember the details accurately.

i don't want to rehash any of the details that have already reported in previous tr so i will try to give my impressions and any salient updates.

my flights were on spirit. note that the exit taxes are now included in your ticket (i believe it is around $50). the taxes are almost as much as the actual airfare. you now have to pay a $3 tax upon departure; they take both dollars and cop. spirit now has new a320 aircraft; the seats on these new planes do not recline! yes, you heard me right. the new seats are "pre-clined" this is a euphemism for thinner padding and seats that no not move. this is not just the seats in front of the exits but every seat on the plane. the flight attendant confirmed that all of the new planes have this feature so they can squeeze extra rows in the aircraft. as i am 6'5" i chose to pay extra for the exit row and am damn glad i did. without the reclining feature i would have been shoehorned into a regular seat. given that spirit charges for carry on as well as checked luggage and for assigned seats i will fly aa next time.

leave plenty of time when departing. getting out of colombia is a lot harder than getting in. i was checked a total of thirteen times from the moment i entered the terminal until i entered the aircraft. this is not an exaggeration i actually counted each station after i entered the gate area. my passport was checked 4 times, my bags were x-rayed once, they were hand checked twice, and i was x-rayed once and patted down twice and questioned 3 x as to the nature of my visit and my destination. you need a solid 90 minutes to run this gauntlet.

if you plan on partying in your room (which i highly recommend especially if you have guests) buy your booze at the us duty free. in fll i was able to buy 1l (not 750ml) bottles of crown royal and baileys for $35 us. this was substantially cheaper than any place in ctg and much better than the local rot gut they sell. baileys is a huge hit with the chicas.

in ctg i was able to join tijuana and skippy. we had condos in del mar. the reservations were made with juan ventura. i had unit 902. it was ok for $75 per night but a little thread bare. tijuana and skippy had 302 (i think). this was vastly superior to my unit as it was recently updated with granite counters, newer furniture and flat screen tv. del mar is a perfect location. on the beach, a 5 minute walk to ldv and hollywood beach and a 10 minute cab to centro.

ldv. what more can i tell you that hasn't already been said. best nights would be thursday or friday. there is absolutely no reason to show up before 11pm and midnight is probably better. friday night they had a wet t shirt contest which was fun. drink prices are ok by us standards but i highly recommend buying a bottle of the local rum or whisky. they offer two sizes and include all of the mixers, ice and lime in the cost. this is a great way of offering women drinks without having them run amok ordering expensive drinks. our group generally went through 2 bottles a night (this included sharing with the local talent). prices seem to be consistent with previous reports. 150k cop for lt and 70k – 80k cop for short time. i would like to qualify those numbers by saying the women were 7-8+ on a scale of 10. 5-6-7 can be had for less. i have to admit i spent an inordinate amount of time working on 9s and 10s but could not get them below 200k for lt. in a few cases i spent so much time i went home alone since i was so tired at 3 am i didn't have the energy to start the process over again. maybe 10+ cuba libras had something to do with it.

when i did go home alone i was able to find the street urchins across from del mar to be available for 40-50k cop. be careful with them as some are ****. one showed me what appeared to be a valid id but the door guard at del mar told me it was fake.

since the bars, discos and ldv don't get started until the wee hours energy conservation is critical. ctg is very hot and will sap your energy especially if you spend a lot of time walking centro or the beaches. i found it helpful to nap after dinner until about 10 or 11pm. additionally, i found those 5 hour energy drinks to be very helpful. i am not shilling for them but a shot around 10 or 11pm gave me the boost i needed.

strange observation for our jewish monger brothers (boy that is a weird sentence). many of the women i met were learning hebrew. apparently, there has been an influx of visitors from israel and the women want to accommodate them. we saw many stars of david and our guide wore one on his neck.

centro. this is a beautiful part of the city. it reminds me of a cross between the french quarter in n. o. and an old city in europe. very narrow streets with boutiques and high end restaurants. it is very walk able and very safe. we didn't have much time to hit the discos and clubs in centro because we like the sure thing at ldv. we did wander into isis which is a small bar with local talent. skippy had eyes for a beautiful colombiana and stayed when tijuana and i decided this was not the place for us and went to ldv. about an hour later skippy joined us at ldv and told us that they whacked him for $300k for our beers, the girl's drinks and a bar fine to take her out. this was on top of the $300k cop she wanted for st. needless to say we never returned to centro for takeout.

bottom line; ctg is a beautiful city with great culture and history. the beaches suck. the women are hot. the weather is hotter. language was not much of a barrier but spanish does help with negotiations. anyone in the tourism business will be competent in english.

Devoman
09-21-10, 19:10
I started going to Cartagena several years ago and usually ended up at the LDV most nights. I really disliked the ear splitting music as did most of the chicas and other gringos there. The obvious question to me is why play it so loud? The air quality is also really bad which would probably cost them money to clean up so I don't expect that to change anytime soon.

Devo

Resortweek
09-21-10, 20:17
I would be grateful for suggestions to a traveller who wants to avoid the "pick up" scene and is not price sensitive. Are there reliable escort services in which you can arrange for someone to visit an upscale hotel rather than going to a bar? I read warnings here that arrangements in advance for extended or overnight visits are risky. I am visiting the weekend of Oct 8th and will post a report even if I strike out. All advice welcome.

You Can
09-21-10, 20:33
I personally like the music there and the decimal at which it is played., what are you talking about when you say the air quality? As far as what?


I started going to Cartagena several years ago and usually ended up at the LDV most nights. I really disliked the ear splitting music as did most of the chicas and other gringos there. The obvious question to me is why play it so loud? The air quality is also really bad which would probably cost them money to clean up so I don't expect that to change anytime soon.

Devo

Devoman
09-21-10, 22:29
I personally like the music there and the decimal at which it is played., what are you talking about when you say the air quality? As far as what?I think you mean Decibel level. Most of us go to the LDV to meet chicas. It is very difficult for us or the chica to have a conversation when the music is too loud never mind the language barrier. For those who want a loud dance club there are other options there. In terms of air quality I mean smoke plus the club gets way too hot especially for a place that is steaming during the daytime.

Devo

Cubfan1963
09-21-10, 23:08
I started going to Cartagena several years ago and usually ended up at the LDV most nights. I really disliked the ear splitting music as did most of the chicas and other gringos there. The obvious question to me is why play it so loud? The air quality is also really bad which would probably cost them money to clean up so I don't expect that to change anytime soon.

DevoDevo, As you know LDV is shooting fish in a barrel so you have to put up with the music and environment. The alternatives are very expensive discos or bars with a fair chance you will come home empty handed. Just decide what is more important pussy or being able to hear when you are 60.

Cubfan1963
09-21-10, 23:11
I would be grateful for suggestions to a traveller who wants to avoid the "pick up" scene and is not price sensitive. Are there reliable escort services in which you can arrange for someone to visit an upscale hotel rather than going to a bar? I read warnings here that arrangements in advance for extended or overnight visits are risky. I am visiting the weekend of Oct 8th and will post a report even if I strike out. All advice welcome.Escort services are pretty sparce in CTG also the cost is crazy compared to what you will find in LDV or discos.

If you want a hotty for more than one night invest a few hours at LDV and negotiate for the rest of your trip. You will find the price per day is pretty cheap and you will never have to set foot in LDV. Think of LDV as an interview location. You get to check out the talent and talk to them and see if the are right for you.

You Can
09-21-10, 23:18
Why would you want to do that? All you have to do is stay in Laguita and walk one block to LDV and pick up a girl who you like.

Sure it could be a problem ordering a girl for an over night, you could possibly have no chemistry together and it would suck for both of you. Believe me if a colombian girl doesn't like you I have found out they will tell you they don't want to spend time with you. I have witnessed it many times in LDV over the years.

I understand everybody is different or has different ideas in there head, but there are all different shapes and sizes in LDV, especially with your not price sensitive comment. Although lets not ruin the curve all to gether here. Why spend 300cop when you can spend 150, 000? I'm sure you could pick one up. Good luck and maybe some of these guys know of a reliable service but I can't imagine that many people using one when like I said you walk out your front door and there all over the place.

Good Luck


I would be grateful for suggestions to a traveller who wants to avoid the "pick up" scene and is not price sensitive. Are there reliable escort services in which you can arrange for someone to visit an upscale hotel rather than going to a bar? I read warnings here that arrangements in advance for extended or overnight visits are risky. I am visiting the weekend of Oct 8th and will post a report even if I strike out. All advice welcome.

Captbb
09-21-10, 23:20
[QUOTE=Resortweek]I would be grateful for suggestions to a traveller who wants to avoid the "pick up" scene and is not price sensitive. Are there reliable escort services in which you can arrange for someone to visit an upscale hotel rather than going to a bar? I read warnings here that arrangements in advance for extended or overnight visits are risky. I am visiting the weekend of Oct 8th and will post a report even if I strike out. All advice welcome. [/ Very hard to Strike Out in Cartagena. Not even Ray Charles could do that. Jajajajaja

Cooldaddyc
09-22-10, 05:26
It is my first report after reading so many from other posters. I am 38 and very picky regarding women beauty and after 24 h in Cartagena I think that potential is there but you have to know what are you doing and to have some luck.

My first night:

I ended up in Bananas or something llike that (El Centro) through a local guy who took me there while I was touring and enjoying old city. Around 9 pm they had 3-4 girls and one that I really liked (what a nice surprise) and soon I was on my way to El Laguito where I am located. Deal was 200k TLN and I paid everything to a bar owner or manager in front of the girl, how much she got I don't know and I gave 20k to a local guy and 10k for girls taxi back.

Girl was very friendly (I can't remember name, shame on me) and nice looking on a taller side. Really, she had great attitude lot of kissing, smiling which I really enjoyed. Minus was CBJ and the second bigger minus was that after hour or so she started dressing and that was it. I mention to her that deal in a bar was for whole night but no big discussion from my part I let her go. She asked me would I like to see her tomorrow but I declined. I have to be honest I don't speak spanish and when you have other guy who translate for you these thing can happen. Still I paid 200k for a hour with really nice girl and I gave 20k to a guy who took me there as his "friend". Not the best deal ever, but at the end of the day I had great time with her. My point of view regarding money and girls is that I like to get best possible deal, but in same time quality (for my personal taste) is something that is really far more important than a good deal as long as I can afford.

After that around 23 30 I went to LDV and was so, so. About 15-20 girls girls but nothing to rave about. I bought a drink to one girl from Cali and had some chat only on her insisting, but I did not want to ask for a price, she wasn't my cup of the tea. I saw one blond with big tits nice thin body, but she left before I had chance to talk to her. At the end I didn't bring anything from LDV, but I'll check again, I guess you have to have some luck too.

Overal I have nice place as base (rented from Juan), lot of positive energy and I'll see how things are going to develop.

One more time thanks guys for all your postings!Hey Rikki,

What is the set up like in Banannas Cafe?

How many girls were working that night?

Was there a short light brown skinned girlwith a very pretty face working?

Her name is Joanna.

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Hi Cooldaddyc,

I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but...

Would you please refrain from WRITING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS!

It's difficult to read and it's time consuming to fix.

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Resortweek
09-22-10, 17:17
I really want to thank Cubfan1963 and You Can for taking time to reply. I should even thank Captbb for the "Ray Charles" comment.

Riki 011
09-22-10, 20:32
Here is how went day 2

I left my place around 21h and I was walking all the way to the cafe del mar and I didn't see any street action. Cafe del mar was quiet (beer 6. 5k what was ok price) but I conected to two girls who came for a drink on their own and I realize after one of the girl was on the phone that they are most likley comombians what was prooven right. They were 6-7 nothing special (normally they are all working girls) and they askied me if I am for some dancing which I confirmed and very quick we are of to Candela. Entrance 10k for me total 30k. Inside one girl met old love and I was left with one girl which was ok to dance with but not for apartment. Candela is fine place but lot of girls were alredy with somebody what is really problem if you are single. After my girl started asking me for a money and sex I was on my way out to LDV.

LDV was much busier than last night and I had chance to meet the owner which is ok from my stand point, some chat and total respect. There were all kind of girls, but not to many above 7. One girl that I was atracted (Alejandra with big tits and big brown eyes, very fit but not the friendlies, look like experience pro which was turn off) was very firm on 250k for a hour and I didn't want to pay that. The other girl from Medellin was asking 200k for 2 hours, she was more friendly with nice face and tits, but lover part was litlle bit hevier and because I stuck on 150k which would be fine I think if one local guy didn't pick her up. Overal I am going empty handed second night in a row, but on my way to apartment I decided that I can go to Elektra and check that place, it was about 2:30.

Elektra is for me better than LDV because it is total after hour place were all masks are off, time is runing out and chance for girl to make money is getting slimer and slimer in one word no b. S. Beside bunch of girl from LDV there were some other girls which was refreshing. Total of maybe 20 girls no cover and beer is I think very close if not the same as in LDV. I picked one girl Joleanis from Medellin very model type just not that tall and she was very hot, at least for me personally. Elektra is very dark and it is hard after so many beers to see very good and juged the talent. After whole night of negotiation I was happy to see girl that ask me straight 150k for the rest of the night (it was past 3 am) which I didn't try to bargain. Once we got to apartment she was as advertised nice personality, with less restriction than last night BBBJ and CIM was offered without hesitation or asking from my part. Around six she left and today we set up date for 4 pm no details discussed, because I was thinking somebody for afternoon would be nice and she can still go tonight to work tonight.

Last night damage was Cafe del Mar 30k (my for beers picked up girls on a way out), Candela 40k (3 covers and one beer for my girl I took a rest there), LDV 40k (3 beers and one Margarita), Elegtra 25k (3 beers and pizza), taxi 35k and girl 150k in total 320k or somethin less than 200us what is not bed for a whole night of drinking, partying and finished with nice ice on the cake.

At the end I would mentioned that I was stoped by police once in a taxi, but no issues just control no money asked.

So far so good we will see what will bring next day.

Ok just to mention for Bananas. It is small place and it was quiet, I was the only guy inside and I stayed there only 20-30minutes. I saw 4 girls and one that I hook up was from Baranquilla, 26 years (what she told me), fairly tall, long black hair, pretty face and excellent body with nice tits. I am sorry I can't recall the name, usually problem with me. I will posted pic when I get back home.

Riki 011
09-22-10, 22:02
day 3

as i mention in day 2 report i ended up with girl from elektra, jolianus. she showed interest to see me today and after positive experience i had i confirmed. during the day can be boring if you are single guy traveler, without spanish language and no prearranged dates with some chicas. i arranged date for 4 pm, before that why not go to the beach and see what is going on there.

beach was surprise me in couple of ways. first i couldn't found famous tony even i think that i pick right location in front of dann. i had chance to meet other guy who rented me chair and he told me that tony is gone and that now he is the guy. normally he instantly asked me for a chair 3k and offered me beer which i accepted just because i saw one beautiful girl and he was spouse to be the guy for connection. he was asking 30k, i had 20k which i gave them right a way (my mistake, but just to know i like gambling with amount that is affordable to loose like in this case 10-12$ for something that on the other side, like that beautiful girl, is worth a risk). he told me that she is with family and that tomorrow will be everything arranged and in same time he was offering me some other girls that i really never been interested at all. to finish whole story i will add part from day 4 because i just got back from the beach girl is there with family again and extra problem is she has 17 years and no deal can be done, she didn't mention that very important moment yesterday. i like girls but i would never ever try to go **** and he is using yhat information as a excuse. now we have no deal and 20k in his pocket for nothing. i mention them about money and he was at first very straightforward like i asked girl it is not my problem that things didn't go right way. i just mention them on my broken almost nonexistent spanish that it is not correct without trying to get into deeper discussion. he started little bit changing story like he will hook me up with other girls if i find any that i like and then i will give them another 10k. i was disappointed not because 20k, but because he is not the guy that you can rely on and it would be nice to have guy like that. he is classic salesmen who thinks just about today and not tomorrow, but much more bed news for me is my dream girl will stayed just a dream. this story i wrote into the details not for me crying for 20k (that i will maybe recover) it is rather for some other people to know with who potentially will have to deal.

it is time to get back to apartment and get ready for my new "girlfriend". while i was getting ready and putting everything in right order i was thinking how to have good time and what to except with my "como esta" spanish. i decided to let her lead stuff and i will do only some correction if necessary. she showed up right on time, nice surprise, in thigh jeans and nice sexy t-shirt. very tiny constitution, but with nice face and beautiful color skin that you get after one week vacation. beginning was easy to script couple drinks (she is not to much in alcohol, quite interested) time for good round, i tried my best and she seemed enjoyed again bbj and cim offered without asking. now what we going to do cinema, restaurant, walk and she decided it is time to get some food, but i added request some very nice place if is possible. we wanted to go first to mexican restaurant but ended up in one restaurant which is definitely on higher side, but nothing to rave about. it is outside of the old city but closer to airport, again my memory can't recall name of the place, but i remember somehow that bill was 108k pesos. again 60 bucks in north america will not take you to that type of places. we had a good time and i have to think that she enjoyed even more than me, because of treatment that i provided to her and i am fine with that i like to be gentleman to nice and respectful ladies. after we went to bocagrande for a coffee to juan valdes (i enjoy their coffee with milk much more than any other coffee in n. america, just a personal references) and because was very humid we decided to go back to my apartment.

on fx they had ironman what was good because i never seen movie before and she seemed to enjoyed too. one round for the end and it is time to call end of the day. before leaving we chat little about my and her look on our relation, because i explained that my vacation should be mixed as much as possible and that our time together is just a part of my vacation. she agree and hopefully day 4 will bring some her girlfriends to my aprtment for a small evening party. regarding money she got big plus i never ask how much for a time she never asked too, no sad stories about family problems etc. i gave her 100k and she sad that money is not object (or i would say rather not main object), she enjoying spending time with me, but no pressure and obligation. what else you can ask, after three days you have nice chick to hang around and still be able to explore new opportunities.

she left around 1:15am and i was thinking it is not bad idea to jump to ldv for a beer or two and see what is available. i saw 20-30 girls at least but not many over 7 and not to many guys maybe 6-7. in one word i wasn't impress and decided to officially call end of the day 3.

Cooldaddyc
09-23-10, 01:34
Here is how went day 2

I left my place around 21h and I was walking all the way to the cafe del mar and I didn't see any street action. Cafe del mar was quiet (beer 6. 5k what was ok price) but I conected to two girls who came for a drink on their own and I realize after one of the girl was on the phone that they are most likley comombians what was prooven right. They were 6-7 nothing special (normally they are all working girls) and they askied me if I am for some dancing which I confirmed and very quick we are of to Candela. Entrance 10k for me total 30k. Inside one girl met old love and I was left with one girl which was ok to dance with but not for apartment. Candela is fine place but lot of girls were alredy with somebody what is really problem if you are single. After my girl started asking me for a money and sex I was on my way out to LDV.

LDV was much busier than last night and I had chance to meet the owner which is ok from my stand point, some chat and total respect. There were all kind of girls, but not to many above 7. One girl that I was atracted (Alejandra with big tits and big brown eyes, very fit but not the friendlies, look like experience pro which was turn off) was very firm on 250k for a hour and I didn't want to pay that. The other girl from Medellin was asking 200k for 2 hours, she was more friendly with nice face and tits, but lover part was litlle bit hevier and because I stuck on 150k which would be fine I think if one local guy didn't pick her up. Overal I am going empty handed second night in a row, but on my way to apartment I decided that I can go to Elektra and check that place, it was about 2:30.

Elektra is for me better than LDV because it is total after hour place were all masks are off, time is runing out and chance for girl to make money is getting slimer and slimer in one word no b. S. Beside bunch of girl from LDV there were some other girls which was refreshing. Total of maybe 20 girls no cover and beer is I think very close if not the same as in LDV. I picked one girl Joleanis from Medellin very model type just not that tall and she was very hot, at least for me personally. Elektra is very dark and it is hard after so many beers to see very good and juged the talent. After whole night of negotiation I was happy to see girl that ask me straight 150k for the rest of the night (it was past 3 am) which I didn't try to bargain. Once we got to apartment she was as advertised nice personality, with less restriction than last night BBBJ and CIM was offered without hesitation or asking from my part. Around six she left and today we set up date for 4 pm no details discussed, because I was thinking somebody for afternoon would be nice and she can still go tonight to work tonight.

Last night damage was Cafe del Mar 30k (my for beers picked up girls on a way out), Candela 40k (3 covers and one beer for my girl I took a rest there), LDV 40k (3 beers and one Margarita), Elegtra 25k (3 beers and pizza), taxi 35k and girl 150k in total 320k or somethin less than 200us what is not bed for a whole night of drinking, partying and finished with nice ice on the cake.

At the end I would mentioned that I was stoped by police once in a taxi, but no issues just control no money asked.

So far so good we will see what will bring next day.

Ok just to mention for Bananas. It is small place and it was quiet, I was the only guy inside and I stayed there only 20-30minutes. I saw 4 girls and one that I hook up was from Baranquilla, 26 years (what she told me), fairly tall, long black hair, pretty face and excellent body with nice tits. I am sorry I can't recall the name, usually problem with me. I will posted pic when I get back home.Hey Riki,

I think I know who you are talking about if she is from Barranquilla. Her name is Laura Vanessa or Karina they are both from Baranquilla. Was there a third girl around named Joanna. She is friends with the both of them. She is short light brown with a pretty face. Let me know.

Thanks!

Otiers
09-23-10, 01:55
day 3

as i mention in day 2 report i ended up with girl from elektra, jolianus. she showed interest to see me today and after positive experience i had i confirmed. during the day can be boring if you are single guy traveler, without spanish language and no prearranged dates with some chicas. i arranged date for 4 pm, before that why not go to the beach and see what is going on there.

beach was surprise me in couple of ways. first i couldn't found famous tony even i think that i pick right location in front of dann. i had chance to meet other guy who rented me chair and he told me that tony is gone and that now he is the guy. normally he instantly asked me for a chair 3k and offered me beer which i accepted just because i saw one beautiful girl and he was spouse to be the guy for connection. he was asking 30k, i had 20k which i gave them right a way (my mistake, but just to know i like gambling with amount that is affordable to loose like in this case 10-12$ for something that on the other side, like that beautiful girl, is worth a risk)..Riki,

i am glad you are having a good time. you did the smart thing by creating a relationship with the girl from ldv. if you spend time to talk, go to dinner, spend some time watching a movie goes a long way with girls because you are treating them as a normal girlfriend and not a hooker. you will get a few freebies this way.

as for tony, he was there two weeks ago, but he was not feeling well. he had some issues with his stomach and was taking medication. he was not there one day i went to the beach and the next day he was looking for me to make up for lost time.

enjoy the rest of your stay.

Zippy42
09-23-10, 15:10
Here is how went day 2

I left my place around 21h and I was walking all the way to the cafe del mar and I didn't see any street action. Cafe del mar was quiet (beer 6. 5k what was ok price) but I conected to two girls who came for a drink on their own and I realize after one of the girl was on the phone that they are most likley comombians what was prooven right. They were 6-7 nothing special (normally they are all working girls) and they askied me if I am for some dancing which I confirmed and very quick we are of to Candela. Entrance 10k for me total 30k. Inside one girl met old love and I was left with one girl which was ok to dance with but not for apartment. Candela is fine place but lot of girls were alredy with somebody what is really problem if you are single. After my girl started asking me for a money and sex I was on my way out to LDV.

LDV was much busier than last night and I had chance to meet the owner which is ok from my stand point, some chat and total respect. There were all kind of girls, but not to many above 7. One girl that I was atracted (Alejandra with big tits and big brown eyes, very fit but not the friendlies, look like experience pro which was turn off) was very firm on 250k for a hour and I didn't want to pay that. The other girl from Medellin was asking 200k for 2 hours, she was more friendly with nice face and tits, but lover part was litlle bit hevier and because I stuck on 150k which would be fine I think if one local guy didn't pick her up. Overal I am going empty handed second night in a row, but on my way to apartment I decided that I can go to Elektra and check that place, it was about 2:30.

Elektra is for me better than LDV because it is total after hour place were all masks are off, time is runing out and chance for girl to make money is getting slimer and slimer in one word no b. S. Beside bunch of girl from LDV there were some other girls which was refreshing. Total of maybe 20 girls no cover and beer is I think very close if not the same as in LDV. I picked one girl Joleanis from Medellin very model type just not that tall and she was very hot, at least for me personally. Elektra is very dark and it is hard after so many beers to see very good and juged the talent. After whole night of negotiation I was happy to see girl that ask me straight 150k for the rest of the night (it was past 3 am) which I didn't try to bargain. Once we got to apartment she was as advertised nice personality, with less restriction than last night BBBJ and CIM was offered without hesitation or asking from my part. Around six she left and today we set up date for 4 pm no details discussed, because I was thinking somebody for afternoon would be nice and she can still go tonight to work tonight.

Last night damage was Cafe del Mar 30k (my for beers picked up girls on a way out), Candela 40k (3 covers and one beer for my girl I took a rest there), LDV 40k (3 beers and one Margarita), Elegtra 25k (3 beers and pizza), taxi 35k and girl 150k in total 320k or somethin less than 200us what is not bed for a whole night of drinking, partying and finished with nice ice on the cake.

At the end I would mentioned that I was stoped by police once in a taxi, but no issues just control no money asked.

So far so good we will see what will bring next day.

Ok just to mention for Bananas. It is small place and it was quiet, I was the only guy inside and I stayed there only 20-30minutes. I saw 4 girls and one that I hook up was from Baranquilla, 26 years (what she told me), fairly tall, long black hair, pretty face and excellent body with nice tits. I am sorry I can't recall the name, usually problem with me. I will posted pic when I get back home.Man how times have changed

I remember in the day you could pull a beach girl ST for 50K, LDV TLN for 80-100K and beers were 1K. Juans Apartments were 50 bucks and requisimos was 4 bucks for a steak. I still go there some but am looking at less expensive places as CTG is getting as expensive as Miami. Too many high rollers with the "fuck, I am on vacation, so let's spread the $$$$$ around". You guys know how to fuck every place up you ever land on. Not talking about you Ricki011, just rollers in general.

Writer Florida
09-24-10, 04:22
I am new here, but a member of another board. I am looking for a taxi driver that knows the casas, bars, and chicas. I would like to find someone reasonable and can speak English.

Can any one help me with a reasonable 3some? Price and dfk and BBBJ are important.

Thanks, I leave Sunday for Cartagena.

Aba Corrado
09-25-10, 20:08
Reports were that elektra was a buyers market. This hasn't been so for me. Still 150k pesos and a shit ton more guys. They still leave after a couple of hours only its daylight out when they do. The selection this trip at LDV hasnt been as great either, but it definitely beats the alternative. Tony nmber one is still around, hasn't died or gone to Venezuela. Hes tryin to charge me 30k to introduce a girl, on top of beers and chairs. FUCk! A couple chicks at LDV went for 120k-140k but thats as low as they go, tried to play hardball with one, she was at the elevator door the next second don't think she was negotiating just leaving. I had to go get her and paid 150k. Bueno suerte!

John Gault
09-26-10, 01:34
Reports were that elektra was a buyers market. This hasn't been so for me. Still 150k pesos and a shit ton more guys. They still leave after a couple of hours only its daylight out when they do. The selection this trip at LDV hasnt been as great either, but it definitely beats the alternative. Tony nmber one is still around, hasn't died or gone to Venezuela. Hes tryin to charge me 30k to introduce a girl, on top of beers and chairs. FUCk! A couple chicks at LDV went for 120k-140k but thats as low as they go, tried to play hardball with one, she was at the elevator door the next second don't think she was negotiating just leaving. I had to go get her and paid 150k. Bueno suerte!A few months ago I spent some time in CTG and after dealing with Tony on other trips it now appears that he is now off the hook. Two guys from the USA that were with our group almost had a fist fight with him. With me he was begging for drinks and beside him over charging me he then wanted a tip.

If I return to CTG it will not be on his beach.

Artful
09-26-10, 01:53
i was there for a week about a month ago. only just got around to writing my trip report.

i've been to ctg maybe 5 or 6 times before. i stayed in el laguito which i must say looks like a shithole these days with all the roadworks going on. the weather was shit too, raining for 4 or 5 days out of the 7. i don't really have anything different to report, but here goes.

i began most of my nights at ldv. it's certainly more expensive these days than it used to be, but then again if you're coming to ctg you have to accept the fact that this isn't pattaya or angeles city anymore. it's much more expensive.

having said all that, i would still say that ldv is probably the best freelancer place in the world in terms of average quality. i'm reasonable well-travelled and have a good base to judge it by:

helpeee (rip)/balcony in brazil
escape/fenwicks/neptunes in hk
dds in macau
everydamnplace in bangkok and pattaya
la cafe in manila
newports in buenos aires
etc etc

anyway, you get the point. although ldv is more expensive than it used to be, it's still jam packed full of 7s-10s and that's pretty damn fine and rare in my not-so-humble-opinion.

colombian girls are a special breed. they are uniquely beautiful but they won't approach you, even in a putaria such as ldv you need to make the first move! on the rare occasions you're approached you can be sure it's by the hardest of pros and usually the ugliest too.

as you've heard a million times before, don't go to ldv too early. i don't get there before midnight. at about 3am the ladies make their slow way to elektra which is owned by the same guy. the formula goes like this:

elektra = ldv + more_noise + more_italians_and_israelis + more_girls_from_other_putarias

the girl: boy ratio is probably slightly less in our favour in elektra, but don't be put off by this. the italians and israelis seem to go to elektra and not ldv but on the whole they don't seem to like to pay, so don't see them as competition. (sorry if you're italian or israeli but this is the consensus of opinion from the girls).

it's not just the girls from ldv that go to elektra, also the girls from isis, queens, tu candela etc. so it's worth going even if you've struck out at ldv.

i went to isis also, which is a strip-joint/brothel. sat there on my own for 30 minutes, no-one spoke to me, girls no better than ldv but fewer clothes. had previously read on isg that it's pretty expensive so didn't really see the point. then again, you could always get some numbers and they become some daytime options. and you really need daytime options in ctg because not much is going on sex-wise during the day other than tony no 1.

tu candela is a challenge. it's ostensibly a non-pro place. however, once you've been to ldv/elektra a few times and begin to know the faces of the girls that go there you'll soon notice that there are lots and lots of those girls in tu candela. but you do need to be discrete and not treat it like a putaria which it certainly isn't.

if you're staying in laguito there's usually a few girls roaming around looking for company. in particular, there's the famous mirador girls; claudia et al.

i've never really been to any casas in ctg. anyone care to recommend some daytime casas?

that's it for now.

Beer Can Bob
09-27-10, 16:00
Have been in Cartagena for nearly 3 months. Still here!

Been to LVD several times, talent there is pretty damn good in my experience. You can basically choose who-ever you want and go from there. 150 to 200 COP seemed to be the going rate for all nighter. Most of the girls I met there were very cool and fun to hangout with. Just got to weed out the real pro, money grabbers, asking for stupid money who want to fuck and run.

One night took 3 girls home around midnight and partied till dawn at my place. They then stay most of the next day too. Watch the girls at the bar over-charging for drinks.

First night I went it was 10, 000 for a rum and coke, next week they wanted 15, 000? Best just buy a bottle, even better, get one of the girls to buy you bottle!

Went once to PlayClub, hot girls, pretty dark and smokey and very expensive. Didn't sample any girls from there.

Went to Ligueros one Sunday night, no-one was there except me and 15 girls. One especially hot, had a few drinks with her, paid the multa (bar fine) and took her home, went to a couple of bars on the way and had a good time.

Isis was expensive but nice place, as of a few weeks ago there were a couple of good 10's in there. Got a couple of numbers and called girls the next day. One came and stayed a couple of days, paid her for one night, next day we got so wrecked drinking on the beach she stayed another night and day, just had to pay her 100, 000 bar fine.

Bananas was a spot I liked, a couple of sexy girls in there, that were pretty fun.

I just took their phone numbers and called them the next day to avoid bar fine. Those girls are not tied to the bar either (like isis), so they are free at nights too if they don't want to go to work at bananas they don't have to.

Elektra. Been a couple of times and always regreted it the next day, getting home at 6am is a killer.

I just hate the tourist touts in the old city. Basically full of shit and don't seem to understand NO. Avoid them at all costs.

LDV is my favourite by far.

Manizales911
09-27-10, 16:33
A few months ago I spent some time in CTG and after dealing with Tony on other trips it now appears that he is now off the hook. Two guys from the USA that were with our group almost had a fist fight with him. With me he was begging for drinks and beside him over charging me he then wanted a tip.

If I return to CTG it will not be on his beach.Tony only over charges you if you let him. Search this board, get the prices that you should pay and tell HIM what you are willing to pay, it really is that simple. Once he knows he can't get over on you he will back off to a degree. He can be an asset for daytime action if you need or want it but again you need to know what price point you are looking for and tell him that, keeping in mind that you will get what you pay for if you aren't willing to pay a reasonable price. And never give Tony your phone number.

Cooldaddyc
09-28-10, 01:00
Hey Beer Bob,

How is Banannas Cafe?

Was there a girl working there named neidyor joanna. She's a sweet girl!


Have been in Cartagena for nearly 3 months. Still here!

Been to LVD several times, talent there is pretty damn good in my experience. You can basically choose who-ever you want and go from there. 150 to 200 COP seemed to be the going rate for all nighter. Most of the girls I met there were very cool and fun to hangout with. Just got to weed out the real pro, money grabbers, asking for stupid money who want to fuck and run.

One night took 3 girls home around midnight and partied till dawn at my place. They then stay most of the next day too. Watch the girls at the bar over-charging for drinks.

First night I went it was 10, 000 for a rum and coke, next week they wanted 15, 000? Best just buy a bottle, even better, get one of the girls to buy you bottle!

Went once to PlayClub, hot girls, pretty dark and smokey and very expensive. Didn't sample any girls from there.

Went to Ligueros one Sunday night, no-one was there except me and 15 girls. One especially hot, had a few drinks with her, paid the multa (bar fine) and took her home, went to a couple of bars on the way and had a good time.

Isis was expensive but nice place, as of a few weeks ago there were a couple of good 10's in there. Got a couple of numbers and called girls the next day. One came and stayed a couple of days, paid her for one night, next day we got so wrecked drinking on the beach she stayed another night and day, just had to pay her 100, 000 bar fine.

Bananas was a spot I liked, a couple of sexy girls in there, that were pretty fun.

I just took their phone numbers and called them the next day to avoid bar fine. Those girls are not tied to the bar either (like isis), so they are free at nights too if they don't want to go to work at bananas they don't have to.

Elektra. Been a couple of times and always regreted it the next day, getting home at 6am is a killer.

I just hate the tourist touts in the old city. Basically full of shit and don't seem to understand NO. Avoid them at all costs.

LDV is my favourite by far.

Beer Can Bob
09-28-10, 03:42
Didn't meet her when I was there.

I liked it cause it was wasnt full of people, the girls were friendly and you could smoke in the bar, a couple of the girls even arguing with the bartender when he tried to over-charge me. Only a handful of girls, a couple from Cali, and the rest costenas.

And if you did it right you even skip the bar fine. Cellphone helps

One night I went in there with a girl who worked there part-time, had been hangin out all day, when we went to leave one of the annoying touts followed us yelling that I had to pay fine. Didn't have to as I came in there with her. Followed us up the road trying to get money out of me. Even tried telling me the hotel I was staying would accept girls and I should go to his recommended hotel. Full of shit as this girl had been in and out the hotel the previous night and day. Never a problem.

A few choice words and he got the picture.

Pussyluver
09-28-10, 13:57
Going back to CTG with an experienced monger friend and two newbies to the hobby. Staying in Laguito again. Have not been there for 2 years and a lot can change in 2 years. Have been spending my monger time in the PI lately but have decided to give up the English speaking quantity of ladies in favor of the higher quality and am heading back to Colombia.

Never been to CTG in early December. Hoping the rainy weather is coming to an end and we get some beach and sun.

Questions:

My pal tells me there is an ATM in the airport. I do not recall seeing one last time. I only noticed the money exchange which is always a rip off. Is there an ATM in the CTG airport and if so, where is it.

I remember an ATM in Laguito on the beach side of the street by an ice cream shop. Is this one still there? I also remember an ATM in Boca Grande inside some bank building.

Just hoping one of you who has been there recently can update me on the locations of ATM's in Laguito since our flight arrives late the evening 10: 30 PM our first night and will need an ATM to get some local cash to start the party.

Thanks

Hilltopper
09-28-10, 20:51
....I remember an ATM in Laguito on the beach side of the street by an ice cream shop. Is this one still there? I also remember an ATM in Boca Grande inside some bank building.

Just hoping one of you who has been there recently can update me on the locations of ATM's in Laguito since our flight arrives late the evening 10: 30 PM our first night and will need an ATM to get some local cash to start the party.

ThanksYes, there are 4 ATMs located inside the airport next to the Avianca ticket counter. After you get your checked bags from the baggage carosel and then clear the final security checkpoint to walk outside on the curb, you'll want to turn to your left to start walking so you can enter back into the airport facility. Walk 20 yards or so and go back inside. Once inside, keep walking that same direction another 50 yards or so. Over to your far left just before the Avianca ticket counter will be 4 ATM machines. Both the Servibanca and Santader machines will spit out 20 mil peso bills. The BBVA machine will give you 50's. If you are even with the Avianca ticket/checkin counter, then you've walked just a little too far.

Last time I checked, the machine in Laguito that you are asking about was taken out or wasn't in service. In Laguito, you'll find an ATM inside the Hilton (typically spits out 50's) and one inside La Perla Casino (next to LDV) that is a Servibanca machine. You'll find many machines at various bank locations in Bocagrande, as well as a Servibanca machine inside the Olympica supermarket in Bocagrande.

Artful
09-28-10, 22:32
Yes, there are several ATMs at CTG airport. There are some on left-hand side as you check in to Avianca, but there are probably lots more.

There are 2 ATMs in El Laguito as of two weeks ago. One to the left of the yoghurt place (Yogurt Fruz I think it's called), one in the Hilton hotel. The latter being the better as it allows 400COP withdrawal per transaction.

I always come prepared with enough local currency for one night just in case a local crisis prevents you from withdrawing money as has happened to me a few times.

A


Going back to CTG with an experienced monger friend and two newbies to the hobby. Staying in Laguito again. Have not been there for 2 years and a lot can change in 2 years. Have been spending my monger time in the PI lately but have decided to give up the English speaking quantity of ladies in favor of the higher quality and am heading back to Colombia.

Never been to CTG in early December. Hoping the rainy weather is coming to an end and we get some beach and sun.

Questions:

My pal tells me there is an ATM in the airport. I do not recall seeing one last time. I only noticed the money exchange which is always a rip off. Is there an ATM in the CTG airport and if so, where is it.

I remember an ATM in Laguito on the beach side of the street by an ice cream shop. Is this one still there? I also remember an ATM in Boca Grande inside some bank building.

Just hoping one of you who has been there recently can update me on the locations of ATM's in Laguito since our flight arrives late the evening 10: 30 PM our first night and will need an ATM to get some local cash to start the party.

Thanks

Owen NL
09-28-10, 23:23
My pal tells me there is an ATM in the airport. I do not recall seeing one last time. I only noticed the money exchange which is always a rip off. Is there an ATM in the CTG airport and if so, where is it.

I remember an ATM in Laguito on the beach side of the street by an ice cream shop. Is this one still there? I also remember an ATM in Boca Grande inside some bank building.

Just hoping one of you who has been there recently can update me on the locations of ATM's in Laguito since our flight arrives late the evening 10: 30 PM our first night and will need an ATM to get some local cash to start the party.

ThanksThere are about 4 ATM machines in the departure hall of the airport next to the check in counters.

The ATM machine you mention in Laguito is still there. Another option in Laguito is the ATM machine in the Casino next to LDV.

Mastorr
09-28-10, 23:39
Didn't meet her when I was there.

I liked it cause it was wasnt full of people, the girls were friendly and you could smoke in the bar, a couple of the girls even arguing with the bartender when he tried to over-charge me. Only a handful of girls, a couple from Cali, and the rest costenas.

And if you did it right you even skip the bar fine. Cellphone helps

One night I went in there with a girl who worked there part-time, had been hangin out all day, when we went to leave one of the annoying touts followed us yelling that I had to pay fine. Didn't have to as I came in there with her. Followed us up the road trying to get money out of me. Even tried telling me the hotel I was staying would accept girls and I should go to his recommended hotel. Full of shit as this girl had been in and out the hotel the previous night and day. Never a problem.

A few choice words and he got the picture.Bananas have barfine like Isis?

LocoGringo
09-29-10, 04:41
ATM's are in several locations, by the Avianca check-in there are 4 of them. There is still an ATM beside the yogurt place, gives 300,000 a hit. December is the end of the rainy season or the start of the dry season, depending on the weather, go figure. Lots of rain this year, more Cali and Cartagena chicas selling it this year.

Uzinuzin
10-03-10, 09:00
Do you guys pay security deposit for apartment rental to Mary, Juan or others ?

This is not for reservation but the extra when you pay the rent for the apartment. And if so do you get it back the day you leave ? Is it in cash or credit card...

Not in Colombia but in some other South American countries I have paid the full rent in advanced and then no security deposit, which is great as you don't have to worry about it when you have to leave and catch your flight (if they are late you loose it). So wondered what is the norm here.

Hilltopper
10-04-10, 16:20
Do you guys pay security deposit for apartment rental to Mary, Juan or others ?

This is not for reservation but the extra when you pay the rent for the apartment. And if so do you get it back the day you leave ? Is it in cash or credit card...

Not in Colombia but in some other South American countries I have paid the full rent in advanced and then no security deposit, which is great as you don't have to worry about it when you have to leave and catch your flight (if they are late you loose it). So wondered what is the norm here.No security deposit with either Mery or Juan. Juan can require the first night's rent in advance via PayPal. Typically just bring USD to pay the rent for your stay and give them personally after you arrive.

I've never had an issue or negative experience with either Mery or Juan and can recommend without hesitation.

Caliguy 2010
10-05-10, 23:48
Hi guys,

I'm looking to be in Ctg Nov approx. Looking for some tailor made suit shirts. Anybody have any contacts. I had 1 contact in Ibague for 50k pesos each. Greatly appreciate any info.

Thanks again

Blago
10-07-10, 01:52
I've just read the last year or so of reports and though much good information (LDV is the place to go; prices are high, but so is quality) I didn't find the information I was looking for.

Are there any decent hotels within reasonable walking distance of LDV that are guest friendly? I guess a lot of punters use rented condos, but since this will be my first CTG visit and my Spanish is all but nonexistent, I'd like to keep it simple. I don't need a 5* place, but don't want to step on cockroaches either.

Any recommendations? Thanks.

Cubfan1963
10-07-10, 18:33
i've just read the last year or so of reports and though much good information (ldv is the place to go; prices are high, but so is quality) i didn't find the information i was looking for.

are there any decent hotels within reasonable walking distance of ldv that are guest friendly? i guess a lot of punters use rented condos, but since this will be my first ctg visit and my spanish is all but nonexistent, i'd like to keep it simple. i don't need a 5* place, but don't want to step on cockroaches either.

any recommendations? thanks.blago. are you sure your not from chicago.

do yourself a favor. contact juan ventura; his info is all over this site. he will hook you up with a beachside condo for $75 per night. you will have your own apartment with pool etc. juan speaks perfect english and is very accomodating. the condos are alway very chica friendly. in fact the guard at my building was able to point out that the chica that i had was **** and saved me from a world of shit. my unit was a 5 minute walk from ldv with a private beach and pool.

feel free to pm me for details.

You Can
10-07-10, 19:35
Definitely contact Juan, speaking spanish has nothing to do with it. Get a condo and you cant go wrong. If you need any tips on getting from the airport to Laguita, and checking in just PM me. I speak virtually no espanol and never had a problem.

Good Luck!


I've just read the last year or so of reports and though much good information (LDV is the place to go; prices are high, but so is quality) I didn't find the information I was looking for.

Are there any decent hotels within reasonable walking distance of LDV that are guest friendly? I guess a lot of punters use rented condos, but since this will be my first CTG visit and my Spanish is all but nonexistent, I'd like to keep it simple. I don't need a 5* place, but don't want to step on cockroaches either.

Any recommendations? Thanks.

Medellin Dreams
10-07-10, 20:00
Hi,

If anyone has rented Juan's Mirador 1402 apartment please pm, thinking about renting this one.

Thanks

Bologna
10-07-10, 21:14
I don't need a 5* place, but don't want to step on cockroaches either. Any recommendations? Thanks.I've stayed in most of the apts. in Laguito over the years and every one had cockroaches, some more than others. That's just the way it is. Welcome to South America. I haven't stayed in Mirador however. It may be roach free because it is new not sure.

Member #3435
10-08-10, 02:50
Blago. Are you sure your not from Chicago.Blago, Clinton, Bloomberg?

They're all regulars. I guarnatee it.

Schwmm

Otiers
10-08-10, 12:07
I've stayed in most of the apts. in Laguito over the years and every one had cockroaches, some more than others. That's just the way it is. Welcome to South America. I haven't stayed in Mirador however. It may be roach free because it is new not sure.I must be lucky. I have been staying in Laquito apartments for seven years and have never seen a cockroach.

Pussyluver
10-08-10, 17:59
Thanks to all those who told me where the ATM's were located at the airport. The update on their locations was appreciated. I am booked my trip and am counting down the days to December.

One more inquiry. I have never been there in December and I know it is the transition month from the rainy season to a less rainy season. I am not overly concerned about the weather, but I am unsure if it is a good time for the chicas.

Does anyone know the college schedule in Colombia? I would like to know if the girls will be in school or on vacation on the beach and available for some freelancing in early December. I know it is a catholic country and I assume they all run home over the holidays, but I was hoping some might be looking for a little extra Christmas money in early December and on the prowl. Any of you with experience in Cartagena during early December please give me your insight.

Bologna
10-08-10, 18:46
I must be lucky. I have been staying in Laquito apartments for seven years and have never seen a cockroach.I think most ( active ) apts do spray so there are times when there aren't any visible and frankly, I don't think it is that bad really considering. It has never been a deal breaker for me and I've spent months in some of them.

Blago
10-09-10, 01:46
Though I appreciate all the recommendations on renting an apartment, I'd prefer a hotel, even if it costs more. Having never visited CTG before and having little fluency in Spanish, I'd be more comfortable at a reasonably decent hotel. Any recommendations? I booked my airfare yesterday and would like the accommodations sorted.

And please don't cast unfair aspersions on our former governor--after all he's only been convicted of one felony--so far.

Thanks

Golfinho
10-09-10, 05:36
Hi,

If anyone has rented Juan's Mirador 1402 apartment please pm, thinking about renting this one.

ThanksIf that's the penthouse, with two-levels, small hottub on top floor, myself and wingman stayed there early September. Good unit.

Bologna
10-09-10, 18:56
I was not going to waste my time posting when I read his post, but since you responded I will chip in, and that is I have been in Cartagena no less than 20 times since 2004, and have never seen them either, with the exception being when I visited a friend in the Conquistador. I think he is full of bolony/bologna.Black Hawk69, If your going to insult another member and call him a liar, it is more effective ( and noble ) if you address that poster directly with your thoughts, instead of a coy lateral attack. Just saying.

Zenguy69
10-09-10, 20:02
Hello, Everyone,

I have gone way back through many reports looking for Juan's contact info and have found several different email addresses. I am traveling to CTG on 10-14 and am looking for a very nice, well located place to stay. If anyone has his number and could send it to me I would be very appreciative. If anyone will be there during that time and would like to grab a drink, please PM me.

Thanks in advance

Cartaa
10-09-10, 22:30
I am going to be in Cartagena for the month of December and I am looking to rent a Apartment for one month. I would also consider sharing a apartment with someone else. I have been to Cartagena 12 times and also going to Medellin for two months starting Jan 1st until March 1st. Please let me know if anyone has a lead on a apartment in either city.

Thanks Randy

Hilltopper
10-10-10, 14:54
Hello, Everyone,

I have gone way back through many reports looking for Juan's contact info and have found several different email addresses. I am traveling to CTG on 10-14 and am looking for a very nice, well located place to stay. If anyone has his number and could send it to me I would be very appreciative. If anyone will be there during that time and would like to grab a drink, please PM me.

Thanks in advanceVisit the 3rd most recent page in the thread titled "Cartagena Hotels and Rental Apartments" in this forum and you'll find contact info for Juan and several others.

Also, Juan has this page on the web:

http://www.zepelion.com/apartamentos/index.htm

Use his hotmail account, as he's had some problems with the aol account in the past. IMO better to contact him via email instead of calling.

Have fun!

Zippy42
10-10-10, 16:09
I am going to be in Cartagena for the month of December and I am looking to rent a Apartment for one month. I would also consider sharing a apartment with someone else. I have been to Cartagena 12 times and also going to Medellin for two months starting Jan 1st until March 1st. Please let me know if anyone has a lead on a apartment in either city.

Thanks RandyIs this Randy from Chicago?

You Can
10-10-10, 23:04
Well Blago,

I tried to show you the way to go, but if you are dead set on a hotel, I cant help you. If you are going to be picking up girls, it is best to have a condo, and you will notice when you meet a girl this is one of the things they will ask you, because they dont want any hassles. So good luck with your search.


Though I appreciate all the recommendations on renting an apartment, I'd prefer a hotel, even if it costs more. Having never visited CTG before and having little fluency in Spanish, I'd be more comfortable at a reasonably decent hotel. Any recommendations? I booked my airfare yesterday and would like the accommodations sorted.

And please don't cast unfair aspersions on our former governor--after all he's only been convicted of one felony--so far.

Thanks

You Can
10-10-10, 23:06
I agree, I have not seen any cockroaches. but I am sure it is possible, but whats the big deal, that can happen anywhere. I am sure the place wasnt over run with them. Personally though, I have stayed in many apartments and have never seen one.


I was not going to waste my time posting when I read his post, but since you responded I will chip in, and that is I have been in Cartagena no less than 20 times since 2004, and have never seen them either, with the exception being when I visited a friend in the Conquistador. I think he is full of bolony/bologna.

Cubfan1963
10-11-10, 18:51
I picked new tix for Nov 8-11 in CTG. I caved on Spirit's $49 fare. Have to love it. RT fare of $98 and Taxes and fees of $158. 70. How fucked up is that. Even with the bag fees it is still cheaper then anything out there from ORD to CTG. God I hope these seats recline.

If anyone is in CTG on these dates PM me so we can meet up. I will do LDV but want to explore more of Centro.

Hilltopper
10-12-10, 10:55
Though I appreciate all the recommendations on renting an apartment, I'd prefer a hotel, even if it costs more. Having never visited CTG before and having little fluency in Spanish, I'd be more comfortable at a reasonably decent hotel. Any recommendations? I booked my airfare yesterday and would like the accommodations sorted.

And please don't cast unfair aspersions on our former governor-after all he's only been convicted of one felony-so far.

ThanksBlago, I understand why you believe that you will feel more comfortable in a hotel given your lack of fluency in Spanish and with this being your first visit to CTG. That being said, what most guys here will tell you is that your concern or hesitancy in renting an apartment (while understood) is unnecessary.

If you rent an apartment from either Mery or Juan, you'll be in a safe area (Laguito) and a secured building. While the guy at the reception desk won't speak much, if any, English (but he will be used to dealing with non-fluent Spanish speakers), both Mery and Juan do and will assist you upon your arrival if you request it. All you'll need to do upon check-in is provide the guy at the desk your name and what unit you have reserved, provide your passport so he can complete a small amount of paperwork, and sign your name (and a fingerprint at some buildings and a small administrative fee at some buildings). He willl then give you the keys to your apartment and you're on your way.

If you still insist on a hotel, then just go with the Hilton. Just use the search feature within this thread on the word "Hilton" to see what others have posted herewithin. Also visit the separate thread on this Forum titled "Cartagena Hotels and Rental Apartments". If you desire many different chicas (pros), don't blame me or anyone else here if you end up disappointed with a stay at the Hilton because they don't always grant entrance to one or more of your guests.

Have fun!

Escort King
10-12-10, 19:36
I picked new tix for Nov 8-11 in CTG. I caved on Spirit's $49 fare. Have to love it. RT fare of $98 and Taxes and fees of $158. 70. How fucked up is that. Even with the bag fees it is still cheaper then anything out there from ORD to CTG. God I hope these seats recline.

If anyone is in CTG on these dates PM me so we can meet up. I will do LDV but want to explore more of Centro.Nice find - can do a nyc - Medellin RT for under 300.

You Can
10-13-10, 01:02
Hilltopper put this well, although I was not as eloquent(i cant spell worth a fuck) this is what I am trying to tell Blago. I dont to this minute, really understand what his problem is with a condo, but fuck, I'm going to say it again. Blago rent a fucking CONDO!


Blago, I understand why you believe that you will feel more comfortable in a hotel given your lack of fluency in Spanish and with this being your first visit to CTG. That being said, what most guys here will tell you is that your concern or hesitancy in renting an apartment (while understood) is unnecessary.

If you rent an apartment from either Mery or Juan, you'll be in a safe area (Laguito) and a secured building. While the guy at the reception desk won't speak much, if any, English (but he will be used to dealing with non-fluent Spanish speakers), both Mery and Juan do and will assist you upon your arrival if you request it. All you'll need to do upon check-in is provide the guy at the desk your name and what unit you have reserved, provide your passport so he can complete a small amount of paperwork, and sign your name (and a fingerprint at some buildings and a small administrative fee at some buildings). He willl then give you the keys to your apartment and you're on your way.

If you still insist on a hotel, then just go with the Hilton. Just use the search feature within this thread on the word "Hilton" to see what others have posted herewithin. Also visit the separate thread on this Forum titled "Cartagena Hotels and Rental Apartments". If you desire many different chicas (pros), don't blame me or anyone else here if you end up disappointed with a stay at the Hilton because they don't always grant entrance to one or more of your guests.

Have fun!

Hj Mac
10-13-10, 19:58
Hello All,

I was in CTG in 2008. I enjoyed it tremendously and decided to go back Novemeber 2010.

This time three of my friends want to monger also. Got Flight rented 5 star Apartment..ready to go.

The Apartment owner now tells me there is a New Tourism law (April 2010)that will not allow prepagos in the tourist apartments or in hotels.

Is this true?

I need a monger companion friendly, 4-5 star 3-4 bedroom apartment or hotel for 4 guys. Can anyone help me?

Peace HJ.

Hj Mac
10-13-10, 20:18
Hello All!

I am a monger and was in CTG in 2008 and loved it.

I need help. I booked a airfare and an 5 star 4 bedroom apartment in CTG, for me and 3 of my monger buddies, mid Novemeber, 2010.

I just got off the phone with the apartment owner who tells me there are new tourism laws (April 2010) that will not allow the prepagos (working women) to accompany us into the tourism apartment or hotels! No Women! ahhhh! Is this true?

I need a nice (4-5 star) monger companion friendly apartment or hotel in CTG for Mid Novemeber. Any Recomendations?

Peace,

HJ Mac

Cubfan1963
10-13-10, 21:25
Hello All!

I am a monger and was in CTG in 2008 and loved it.

I need help. I booked a airfare and an 5 star 4 bedroom apartment in CTG, for me and 3 of my monger buddies, mid Novemeber, 2010.

I just got off the phone with the apartment owner who tells me there are new tourism laws (April 2010) that will not allow the prepagos (working women) to accompany us into the tourism apartment or hotels! No Women! ahhhh! Is this true?

I need a nice (4-5 star) monger companion friendly apartment or hotel in CTG for Mid Novemeber. Any Recomendations?

Peace,

HJ MacHJ, As far as I know there is no truth to this. It could simply be that the owner does not want putas in his unit. Fine then go else where. Contact Juan Ventura at www.venpro.net/fotosapartamentos/index.htm. He has a number of penthouse units that should fit your needs.

BTW, what are your dates? I will be there the 8-10

If you have any other questions feel free to PM me. I am sure the guys here would give you the same info.

LocoGringo
10-13-10, 22:52
I have been there for 10+ years, this is just not true about putas. Some apt bldgs are more restrictive but there are plenty of apts that only want a cedula to cover their ass. Juan Ventura had a house with pool in Laguito that is great for a party. He also has several penthouses.

If you are scheduled during the Miss Colombia pageant (Nov 8-15) then they dropped you because that and New Years are the busiest times of the year for Cartagena.

SlamCity7777
10-13-10, 22:58
Hello All!

I am a monger and was in CTG in 2008 and loved it.

I need help. I booked a airfare and an 5 star 4 bedroom apartment in CTG, for me and 3 of my monger buddies, mid Novemeber, 2010.

I just got off the phone with the apartment owner who tells me there are new tourism laws (April 2010) that will not allow the prepagos (working women) to accompany us into the tourism apartment or hotels! No Women! ahhhh! Is this true?

I need a nice (4-5 star) monger companion friendly apartment or hotel in CTG for Mid Novemeber. Any Recomendations?

Peace,

HJ MacIMO this sounds fishy: A "law" that prohibits prepagos from coming into the apartment?" First how would they know who is a prepago and who is just your chick/friend/wife/girlfriend/cousin? Second how on EARTH would the enforce this law? Why would they enforce this law?

If I had to guess I would say that the other occupants of the apartment gave the guy a hard time for some previous drama and now he's just trying to cover his ass. When I rented in Mede and Bogota there always was a "No Loud Parties" clause in the rental agreement because every day colombians lived in the building too and while I'm going nuts with my boys and a gang of sluts some guy named Hector has to go to work at 6am.

just a guess but I'd bet money I was right...

PaulGore
10-14-10, 00:25
Hello All!

I am a monger and was in CTG in 2008 and loved it.

I need help. I booked a airfare and an 5 star 4 bedroom apartment in CTG, for me and 3 of my monger buddies, mid Novemeber, 2010.

I just got off the phone with the apartment owner who tells me there are new tourism laws (April 2010) that will not allow the prepagos (working women) to accompany us into the tourism apartment or hotels! No Women! ahhhh! Is this true?

I need a nice (4-5 star) monger companion friendly apartment or hotel in CTG for Mid Novemeber. Any Recomendations?

Peace,

HJ MacSombody is pulling your leg.There tring to shake you down for a entrance fee for your girls tell them you no stupid gringo and you will bring in who you want. I am there next week.

Ricker
10-14-10, 02:11
Hello All!

I am a monger and was in CTG in 2008 and loved it.

I need help. I booked a airfare and an 5 star 4 bedroom apartment in CTG, for me and 3 of my monger buddies, mid Novemeber, 2010.

I just got off the phone with the apartment owner who tells me there are new tourism laws (April 2010) that will not allow the prepagos (working women) to accompany us into the tourism apartment or hotels! No Women! ahhhh! Is this true?

I need a nice (4-5 star) monger companion friendly apartment or hotel in CTG for Mid Novemeber. Any Recomendations?

Peace,

HJ MacGood grief amigo, maybe read the last couple days of posts, ALL about apartments in Cartagena.

Maybe that'll help.

Peace

You Can
10-14-10, 02:31
WTF are you talking about? Thats total bullshit as far as I know. Tell him to go fuck himself. If I rent a condo, its my place and I will bring who ever I want into the place. Or I am out the door. Hence, I rented this, its mine for the time! As long as I respect the property and I always do , I will do as if it were mine. That means if I have a friend, there coming with me.


Hello All!

I am a monger and was in CTG in 2008 and loved it.

I need help. I booked a airfare and an 5 star 4 bedroom apartment in CTG, for me and 3 of my monger buddies, mid Novemeber, 2010.

I just got off the phone with the apartment owner who tells me there are new tourism laws (April 2010) that will not allow the prepagos (working women) to accompany us into the tourism apartment or hotels! No Women! ahhhh! Is this true?

I need a nice (4-5 star) monger companion friendly apartment or hotel in CTG for Mid Novemeber. Any Recomendations?

Peace,

HJ Mac

Cooldaddyc
10-14-10, 05:56
Nice find - can do a nyc - Medellin RT for under 300.I'll be there from the 6th to the tenth myself.

I'm in for Centro and LDV!

Drew Be
10-14-10, 07:57
Hey guys,

Up until now most of my sex-capades have been in eastern europe. I've been interested in taking a trip to SA for a while and was looking at Cartagena. I've tried to do my research by reading the forums, but I've got a few questions nonetheless...

Will I be able to get by on very basic Spanish? I never really learned much Spanish, but do know some basics and can speak Italian quite well so I was hoping I'd be ok. I was also thinking since Cartagena is more of a tourist area I'd fare better than say Medellin or Bogota.

About pricing. Pricing seems to be between 150k-200k for TLN. Does that include anal and BBBJ or do I have to negotiate for those seperately(this is where I'm worried my Spanish might be insufficient)? If I was interested in a girl for a GFE lasting a few days what should I expect to pay? Also, how liberal are the girls when it comes to photos and more importantly videos? I've never had any luck with videos in countries like Czech or Ukraine, but always find girls who are up for it in Budapest and Romania so I was wondering if it was worth bringing my camera.

Thanks,

Drew

Cubfan1963
10-14-10, 19:44
Hey guys,

Up until now most of my sex-capades have been in eastern europe. I've been interested in taking a trip to SA for a while and was looking at Cartagena. I've tried to do my research by reading the forums, but I've got a few questions nonetheless...

Will I be able to get by on very basic Spanish? I never really learned much Spanish, but do know some basics and can speak Italian quite well so I was hoping I'd be ok. I was also thinking since Cartagena is more of a tourist area I'd fare better than say Medellin or Bogota.

About pricing. Pricing seems to be between 150k-200k for TLN. Does that include anal and BBBJ or do I have to negotiate for those seperately(this is where I'm worried my Spanish might be insufficient)? If I was interested in a girl for a GFE lasting a few days what should I expect to pay? Also, how liberal are the girls when it comes to photos and more importantly videos? I've never had any luck with videos in countries like Czech or Ukraine, but always find girls who are up for it in Budapest and Romania so I was wondering if it was worth bringing my camera.

Thanks,

DrewSpanish is not required in CTG but will help with the nuances of negotiations and in the bedroom. My espanol is very basic and I had no problems. I am trying to improve.

Your range for TLN is about right. Good skills will get you to $150k including BJ. I think 2hole will cost you more and severley limit your chica options. I suppose if you offer top COP you would get more takers.

Regarding Pics or Vids many of the pros will go for it most for extra $$. Always bring the camera, the one time you don't a 10 will fall in your lap and let you do anal and take pictures. And then what.

Escort King
10-14-10, 19:47
Hey guys,

Up until now most of my sex-capades have been in eastern europe. I've been interested in taking a trip to SA for a while and was looking at Cartagena. I've tried to do my research by reading the forums, but I've got a few questions nonetheless...

Will I be able to get by on very basic Spanish? I never really learned much Spanish, but do know some basics and can speak Italian quite well so I was hoping I'd be ok. I was also thinking since Cartagena is more of a tourist area I'd fare better than say Medellin or Bogota.

About pricing. Pricing seems to be between 150k-200k for TLN. Does that include anal and BBBJ or do I have to negotiate for those seperately(this is where I'm worried my Spanish might be insufficient)? If I was interested in a girl for a GFE lasting a few days what should I expect to pay? Also, how liberal are the girls when it comes to photos and more importantly videos? I've never had any luck with videos in countries like Czech or Ukraine, but always find girls who are up for it in Budapest and Romania so I was wondering if it was worth bringing my camera.

Thanks,

DrewExtras are generally extras but not too much more given what you want.

Hj Mac
10-15-10, 00:30
HJ, As far as I know there is no truth to this. It could simply be that the owner does not want putas in his unit. Fine then go else where. Contact Juan Ventura at www.venpro.net/fotosapartamentos/index.htm. He has a number of penthouse units that should fit your needs.

BTW, what are your dates? I will be there the 8-10

If you have any other questions feel free to PM me. I am sure the guys here would give you the same info.Thanks bro.

I moved my dates to Dec 3-7, and am using Jaun!! have fun!

Hj Mac
10-15-10, 00:32
I have been there for 10+ years, this is just not true about putas. Some apt bldgs are more restrictive but there are plenty of apts that only want a cedula to cover their ass. Juan Ventura had a house with pool in Laguito that is great for a party. He also has several penthouses.

If you are scheduled during the Miss Colombia pageant (Nov 8-15) then they dropped you because that and New Years are the busiest times of the year for Cartagena.Thanks!

We were right in the mix of it! I changed the date and am using Jaun!

Hj Mac
10-15-10, 00:34
Good grief amigo, maybe read the last couple days of posts, ALL about apartments in Cartagena.

Maybe that'll help.

PeaceThanks.

I was shook up and did use the info from the other post.

Cubfan1963
10-15-10, 15:59
I have been there for 10+ years, this is just not true about putas. Some apt bldgs are more restrictive but there are plenty of apts that only want a cedula to cover their ass. Juan Ventura had a house with pool in Laguito that is great for a party. He also has several penthouses.

If you are scheduled during the Miss Colombia pageant (Nov 8-15) then they dropped you because that and New Years are the busiest times of the year for Cartagena.Loco.

It appears that I will be in CTG for the beginning of the pageant.

Is it worth checking out?

Aba Corrado
10-16-10, 01:39
I have gotten alot of info from this site and appreciate the posters and members. I do have a bit of a beef. A lot of people talk about 100 k for short time and 150 for long time and i am spelling it out so there is no confusion. I am no enrique eglesias but im in good shape not awful to look at and am not shy around women. Hell Ive been known to get laid in sex prison! To get a chick from ldv to go for 100k is fookin WORK and then rarely, for me anyway. Long time is hard to get for 200k much less 150. So are you guys internet fibbin or what. I am not a prolific poster but I try to only add info that hasnt been stated many times. I stated that that recently i was in Carta and at electra it was no bargain, everybody wanted 150 and werent budgin. Shit they were willing to take less at ldv. Make no sense unless its a pride thing. No one wanted me all nite so now im not gonna bargain cuz its thier fault.....WTF over!! But seriosly guys, are you really getting ldv chicks for 100k or is this web bluster. Wanted to know in case this is the same thing with Medellin cuz I want to try it next but not if Im gonna run into bargain reports turning into fantasy wonderland dreaming compared to reality. I dont mean to be disrespectful, but I give my honest experiences and appreciate the same.

End of rant and thanks again for all of the info

Havahopeful
10-16-10, 15:33
I think it all depends on how early it is at LDV.

If its truly the beginning of the night she will be willing go for less short time with the hope of getting another customer at Electra late night. (especially if you're sober and seem to want to get down to business)

On the flip side she wont want to go for cheap LT from LDV because there are a whole night's worth of customers available possibly willing to pay more.

At Electra long time is cheaper as they dont really have any hope of any new customers after you. Plus keep in mind if you are someone the girl doesn't mind being with i.e. nice, fun not bad to look at, she's probably more comfortable spending the night at your place then getting up and dressed at 5-6 am and going back to an apartment shared with 6 other working girls.

I've taken 2 girls from LDV 1 for 120k and 1 for 150k both were short time.

I've taken 4 girls from Electra 2 for 100k and 2 for 150k both stayed until I had to ask them to leave when I wanted to go to the beach the next afternoon.

This also maybe due to the fact that I come off much better at Electra then I do at LDV. I speak Spanish very well and am relatively young and in good shape and can rap with these girls very well but can't' dance salsa worth a damn! Salsa is huge to having fun with girls at LDV and Tu Candela.

Escort King
10-16-10, 16:50
I have gotten alot of info from this site and appreciate the posters and members. I do have a bit of a beef. A lot of people talk about 100 k for short time and 150 for long time and i am spelling it out so there is no confusion. I am no enrique eglesias but im in good shape not awful to look at and am not shy around women. Hell Ive been known to get laid in sex prison! To get a chick from ldv to go for 100k is fookin WORK and then rarely, for me anyway. Long time is hard to get for 200k much less 150. So are you guys internet fibbin or what. I am not a prolific poster but I try to only add info that hasnt been stated many times. I stated that that recently i was in Carta and at electra it was no bargain, everybody wanted 150 and werent budgin. Shit they were willing to take less at ldv. Make no sense unless its a pride thing. No one wanted me all nite so now im not gonna bargain cuz its thier fault.....WTF over!! But seriosly guys, are you really getting ldv chicks for 100k or is this web bluster. Wanted to know in case this is the same thing with Medellin cuz I want to try it next but not if Im gonna run into bargain reports turning into fantasy wonderland dreaming compared to reality. I dont mean to be disrespectful, but I give my honest experiences and appreciate the same.

End of rant and thanks again for all of the infoIf you stay at the Mansion the girls there generally will go for 150-200 TLN if they are there at night - they get breakfast in the morning - 100 ST but some will ask more - you have to negotiate and do it in a friendly way.

You Can
10-16-10, 18:23
Everything you are saying is true. Well put.


I think it all depends on how early it is at LDV.

If its truly the beginning of the night she will be willing go for less short time with the hope of getting another customer at Electra late night. (especially if you're sober and seem to want to get down to business)

On the flip side she wont want to go for cheap LT from LDV because there are a whole night's worth of customers available possibly willing to pay more.

At Electra long time is cheaper as they dont really have any hope of any new customers after you. Plus keep in mind if you are someone the girl doesn't mind being with i.e. nice, fun not bad to look at, she's probably more comfortable spending the night at your place then getting up and dressed at 5-6 am and going back to an apartment shared with 6 other working girls.

I've taken 2 girls from LDV 1 for 120k and 1 for 150k both were short time.

I've taken 4 girls from Electra 2 for 100k and 2 for 150k both stayed until I had to ask them to leave when I wanted to go to the beach the next afternoon.

This also maybe due to the fact that I come off much better at Electra then I do at LDV. I speak Spanish very well and am relatively young and in good shape and can rap with these girls very well but can't' dance salsa worth a damn! Salsa is huge to having fun with girls at LDV and Tu Candela.

Cubfan1963
10-18-10, 17:43
I have gotten alot of info from this site and appreciate the posters and members. I do have a bit of a beef. A lot of people talk about 100 k for short time and 150 for long time and i am spelling it out so there is no confusion. I am no enrique eglesias but im in good shape not awful to look at and am not shy around women. Hell Ive been known to get laid in sex prison! To get a chick from ldv to go for 100k is fookin WORK and then rarely, for me anyway. Long time is hard to get for 200k much less 150. So are you guys internet fibbin or what. I am not a prolific poster but I try to only add info that hasnt been stated many times. I stated that that recently i was in Carta and at electra it was no bargain, everybody wanted 150 and werent budgin. Shit they were willing to take less at ldv. Make no sense unless its a pride thing. No one wanted me all nite so now im not gonna bargain cuz its thier fault.....WTF over!! But seriosly guys, are you really getting ldv chicks for 100k or is this web bluster. Wanted to know in case this is the same thing with Medellin cuz I want to try it next but not if Im gonna run into bargain reports turning into fantasy wonderland dreaming compared to reality. I dont mean to be disrespectful, but I give my honest experiences and appreciate the same.

End of rant and thanks again for all of the infoHaving just been in CTG and killed many brain cells in August I can say with supreme confidence that 80k COP for ST and 150k COP for LT can be had. And those with better game and laguage skills could probably do better. I am not a tough negotiater since I believe there is a direct correlation between negotiating too hard and getting shitty service. Once I find the woman of my dreams (for that night) I get a feeling of her price range. If I believe she is starting from an unreasonable point I move on to the next Puta. I have had horrible experiences with women after negotiating down to the last nickel. Now if I like the way she looks and we hit it off I create a ceiling. Anything I get below that is great.

Hj Mac
10-19-10, 18:10
Loco Gringo and others. I am dealing with Juan Ventura who was recommended people on this website.

I am uncomfortable. He only wants a small down payment, (that's good). And has no contract. That I find unusual. He says he represents a Candian owner.

I have asked him 3 times on how I get the money to him. Each time he says through my Paypal account but never gives me the instructions to do it.

I am thinking of booking through him but getting a hotel. Possibaly the "El Dorado" as back up.

Any suggestions?

HJ MAC

Cubfan1963
10-19-10, 22:25
Loco Gringo and others. I am dealing with Juan Ventura who was recommended people on this website.

I am uncomfortable. He only wants a small down payment, (that's good). And has no contract. That I find unusual. He says he represents a Candian owner.

I have asked him 3 times on how I get the money to him. Each time he says through my Paypal account but never gives me the instructions to do it.

I am thinking of booking through him but getting a hotel. Possibaly the "El Dorado" as back up.

Any suggestions?

HJ MACYes, he takes his deposits through paypal. Once you have rented from him he no longer requires a deposit. How's that for trust.

Rainman3
10-19-10, 23:57
Loco Gringo and others. I am dealing with Juan Ventura who was recommended people on this website.

I am uncomfortable. He only wants a small down payment, (that's good). And has no contract. That I find unusual. He says he represents a Candian owner.

I have asked him 3 times on how I get the money to him. Each time he says through my Paypal account but never gives me the instructions to do it.

I am thinking of booking through him but getting a hotel. Possibaly the "El Dorado" as back up.

Any suggestions?

HJ MACMac,

Juan is on the up and up!

Evidently you are not experienced with Pay Pal.

If you have Juan's email you have all the instructions you need to make payment to him. His email address serves as his account.

Manizales911
10-20-10, 00:51
Loco Gringo and others. I am dealing with Juan Ventura who was recommended people on this website.

I am uncomfortable. He only wants a small down payment, (that's good). And has no contract. That I find unusual. He says he represents a Candian owner.

I have asked him 3 times on how I get the money to him. Each time he says through my Paypal account but never gives me the instructions to do it.

I am thinking of booking through him but getting a hotel. Possibaly the "El Dorado" as back up.

Any suggestions?

HJ MACI have been all over Colombia and I have never met a more stand up guy than Juan,period. He probably is assuming that you know how to pay him through Paypal as it is as simple as simple gets,you send payment to his account which is his e-mail address.

My suggestion is you don't need a backup plan with Juan,someone else yes,but not him.

Phunluv
10-20-10, 05:13
I am not a tough negotiater since I believe there is a direct correlation between negotiating too hard and getting shitty service. Once I find the woman of my dreams (for that night) I get a feeling of her price range. If I believe she is starting from an unreasonable point I move on to the next Puta. I have had horrible experiences with women after negotiating down to the last nickel. Now if I like the way she looks and we hit it off I create a ceiling. Anything I get below that is great.Yep, that's it. You got the right idea. Being a hard-ass negotiator ups your chance of a mediocre (or worse) session by a lot.

Obviously, if you're a monger that cares only about a hole to pump and dump, then price is all that matters. But if you're not wired that way, then you have choices and options to consider. The right attitude is exactly what you said, figure out what price you're willing to pay for the girl in front of you taking into account the kind of experience you're looking for.

LocoGringo
10-20-10, 12:40
Ditto Manazales comment on Juan. In monthly dealings for 7 years never a problem. Mmake the reservation quickly though, it is starting to get busy for Nov/Dec/Jan.

You Can
10-21-10, 00:18
Bud, just stop ! Juan is fine. Pull your skirt up B and book the room. Juan is a gentlemen.


Loco Gringo and others. I am dealing with Juan Ventura who was recommended people on this website.

I am uncomfortable. He only wants a small down payment, (that's good). And has no contract. That I find unusual. He says he represents a Candian owner.

I have asked him 3 times on how I get the money to him. Each time he says through my Paypal account but never gives me the instructions to do it.

I am thinking of booking through him but getting a hotel. Possibaly the "El Dorado" as back up.

Any suggestions?

HJ MAC

You Can
10-21-10, 14:30
When I first dealt with Juan years ago, sent my deposit thru Western Union, It was no problem. He will be happy to let you WU it to him.


Loco Gringo and others. I am dealing with Juan Ventura who was recommended people on this website.

I am uncomfortable. He only wants a small down payment, (that's good). And has no contract. That I find unusual. He says he represents a Candian owner.

I have asked him 3 times on how I get the money to him. Each time he says through my Paypal account but never gives me the instructions to do it.

I am thinking of booking through him but getting a hotel. Possibaly the "El Dorado" as back up.

Any suggestions?

HJ MAC

Hilltopper
10-22-10, 09:21
Loco Gringo and others. I am dealing with Juan Ventura who was recommended people on this website.

I am uncomfortable. He only wants a small down payment, (that's good). And has no contract. That I find unusual. He says he represents a Candian owner.

I have asked him 3 times on how I get the money to him. Each time he says through my Paypal account but never gives me the instructions to do it.

I am thinking of booking through him but getting a hotel. Possibaly the "El Dorado" as back up.

Any suggestions?

HJ MACOthers have already provided enough feedback to ensure you that your initial uncomfortable feeling was misplaced. I'd like to only add one other piece of information for clarification to help others in their initial dealings with Juan:

In renting an apartment with Juan, he sends the instructions for making the initial one night's PayPal deposit (along with other instructions) after you reserve the apartment. You didn't receive the instructions email because you hadn't comitted to a reservation.

So for others making their first rental with Juan: when you email him, find out what's available for your dates, make your decision, then tell him which one you want to reserve and confirm your dates. He will then email you back confirming your reservation and send you the instruction email. It's that simple.

Cubfan1963
10-22-10, 20:27
Loco Gringo and others. I am dealing with Juan Ventura who was recommended people on this website.

I am uncomfortable. He only wants a small down payment, (that's good). And has no contract. That I find unusual. He says he represents a Candian owner.

I have asked him 3 times on how I get the money to him. Each time he says through my Paypal account but never gives me the instructions to do it.

I am thinking of booking through him but getting a hotel. Possibaly the "El Dorado" as back up.

Any suggestions?

HJ MACI can understand wanting to be cautious but this is a little over the top. There are probably 50 guys on this site that would vouch for Juan. Do yourself a favor and do the search. He is a stand up guy. If you are still not sure go with a hotel a when you get there you will find out how silly you were. Maybe you are not ready for this hobby?

Hj Mac
10-23-10, 19:08
I can understand wanting to be cautious but this is a little over the top. There are probably 50 guys on this site that would vouch for Juan. Do yourself a favor and do the search. He is a stand up guy. If you are still not sure go with a hotel a when you get there you will find out how silly you were. Maybe you are not ready for this hobby?Are you sure about Juan?. JOKE! I get it. I booked with him. Thank you all for the input.

Member #4258
10-24-10, 02:16
I have gotten alot of info from this site and appreciate the posters and members. I do have a bit of a beef. A lot of people talk about 100 k for short time and 150 for long time and i am spelling it out so there is no confusion. I am no enrique eglesias but im in good shape not awful to look at and am not shy around women. Hell Ive been known to get laid in sex prison! To get a chick from ldv to go for 100k is fookin WORK and then rarely, for me anyway. Long time is hard to get for 200k much less 150. So are you guys internet fibbin or what. I am not a prolific poster but I try to only add info that hasnt been stated many times. I stated that that recently i was in Carta and at electra it was no bargain, everybody wanted 150 and werent budgin. Shit they were willing to take less at ldv. Make no sense unless its a pride thing. No one wanted me all nite so now im not gonna bargain cuz its thier fault.....WTF over!! But seriosly guys, are you really getting ldv chicks for 100k or is this web bluster. Wanted to know in case this is the same thing with Medellin cuz I want to try it next but not if Im gonna run into bargain reports turning into fantasy wonderland dreaming compared to reality. I dont mean to be disrespectful, but I give my honest experiences and appreciate the same.

End of rant and thanks again for all of the infoI donated 100K-150K TLN most of the time. Although I had one chica that agreed to 150K TLN, then did the old 150 USD switcheroo. I kicked her out the door in about 5 seconds. A chica on the beach wanted 300K for an hour so they can ask for a lot sometimes.

Check your breath. I asked one chica what she liked about me and she said I had nice breath. (I shouldn't give away my secrets!)

Hoser

Cubfan1963
10-25-10, 15:44
Are you sure about Juan?. JOKE! I get it. I booked with him. Thank you all for the input.Good for you. When you meet Juan you will laugh about this. Please be sure to report back when you return. Include your impressions of the property as well so we can all benefit from your experience.

Thanks

Cubfan1963
10-25-10, 15:59
I donated 100K-150K TLN most of the time. Although I had one chica that agreed to 150K TLN, then did the old 150 USD switcheroo. I kicked her out the door in about 5 seconds. A chica on the beach wanted 300K for an hour so they can ask for a lot sometimes.

Check your breath. I asked one chica what she liked about me and she said I had nice breath. (I shouldn't give away my secrets!)

HoserHoser brings up a good point. As much as we want to boil this down to a business transaction the chica still has some control. If she thinks you are a duche bag and a complete slob no amount of haggling will get her to come off her price.

The orignal question posed to the board is legit and I am sure some guys like to come off as the worlds best deal maker. However, I am speaking from very recent experienc that Sub 100k COP for ST and around 150k COP for LT are very doable. I speak next to no spanish and don't really try to negotiate the last Pesso. Also, I have simply walked away from chicas asking for 300k COP for a few hours. They are simply starting from a crazy price point and I don't want to deal with that kind of nonsense.

There are varying quality of women. I am simply stunned when I see pictures posted of women that guys think are 8s or 9s; these same women I would rate as 5s or 6s. So quality is a factor to keep in mind.

Bottom line is that some guys probably exaggerate but when you average all of the information the truth is probably in the middle.

Twetr
10-25-10, 20:11
Headed to Cartagena in November for the first time. Didn't want to hastle with securing an apt, so was just gonna book a higher end hotel room. Are there any known to be chica friendly? Was thinking of staying around El Centro but I guess we could do Boca Grande as well.

You Can
10-25-10, 20:16
Have you even bothered to read thru any of the post hear? Apartments are the way to go. Read the post.


Headed to Cartagena in November for the first time. Didn't want to hastle with securing an apt, so was just gonna book a higher end hotel room. Are there any known to be chica friendly? Was thinking of staying around El Centro but I guess we could do Boca Grande as well.

Math92
10-25-10, 22:04
Hi all,

That is my first post in this thread and it will be my first trip in Colombia.

Thanks to your advice, I will rent an apartment with Juan.

I will be there from february 17th to 28th.

I speak quite fluently spanish and for sure better than english. I am half spanish.

I will be glad to share a drink with some of you.

Ricker
10-26-10, 01:23
Headed to Cartagena in November for the first time. Didn't want to hastle with securing an apt, so was just gonna book a higher end hotel room. Are there any known to be chica friendly? Was thinking of staying around El Centro but I guess we could do Boca Grande as well.Read some of the recent posts and stay in an apartment. Sheeeshhhhh.

SlamCity7777
10-26-10, 04:47
Headed to Cartagena in November for the first time. Didn't want to hastle with securing an apt, so was just gonna book a higher end hotel room. Are there any known to be chica friendly? Was thinking of staying around El Centro but I guess we could do Boca Grande as well.Dude; please don't spam EVERY topic with the same question.

As for your actual question I say Apt is the way to go. Hotels have EVERYBODY and ANYBODY in your business...search "Hotel" and you'll see that a bunch of people have had horror stories about all levels of hotels.

Good luck

Cubfan1963
10-26-10, 16:01
Headed to Cartagena in November for the first time. Didn't want to hastle with securing an apt, so was just gonna book a higher end hotel room. Are there any known to be chica friendly? Was thinking of staying around El Centro but I guess we could do Boca Grande as well.Twetr:

Securing an apartment is easier than a hotel in CTG. Also a much better value and guaranteed Chica friendly. Consider Boca Grande or El Laguito.

Contact this guy for apartments you can't go wrong.

Juan ventura ittscol@hotmail.com

Twetr
10-26-10, 17:58
My business? I don't understand. Anyway, sorry for that triple post. My problem is that I can only hang in CTG for 3 days. I had read a couple comments saying that it was difficult to secure an apt for such a short period of time, is that inaccurate?

Otiers
10-27-10, 00:00
My business? I don't understand. Anyway, sorry for that triple post. My problem is that I can only hang in CTG for 3 days. I had read a couple comments saying that it was difficult to secure an apt for such a short period of time, is that inaccurate?Not to jump on your case, but there are many posts on Apartments and Hotels. Seems like the same question every week. I found something really great, it is called Google and you just type in Cartegena Apartment (or Cartagena Hotels) and click on the results of your search. Lots of information, some apartments are even listed with nightly rates. Hotels even have pictures and reservation forms.

I write with TIC, but sometimes regulars see the same question routinely.

Cubfan1963
10-27-10, 18:31
My business? I don't understand. Anyway, sorry for that triple post. My problem is that I can only hang in CTG for 3 days. I had read a couple comments saying that it was difficult to secure an apt for such a short period of time, is that inaccurate?I am going to CTG in two weeks and have an apartment through Juan for only two nights. So you should not have a problem.

You Can
10-27-10, 20:03
That is the only email you need to know unless he is booked. It doesnt matteri if its 1 day or 50.



Twetr:

Securing an apartment is easier than a hotel in CTG. Also a much better value and guaranteed Chica friendly. Consider Boca Grande or El Laguito.

Contact this guy for apartments you can't go wrong.

Juan ventura ittscol@hotmail.com

Cubfan1963
10-28-10, 19:01
Guess I will be in CTG during the beginning of the Pageant the week of Nov 8th. Have any of you guys been in CTG during the event? Has anyone actually attended any of the events?

Twetr
10-28-10, 19:21
Appreciate the advise. Juan has the atl 1201 and the playa 301 available. Both seem nice. Anyone hqve any experience with those units or favorites?

You Can
10-28-10, 20:52
stayed in 301 many times its nice, especiallly the large balcony over looking the ocean. Go with 301 playa mar


Appreciate the advise. Juan has the atl 1201 and the playa 301 available. Both seem nice. Anyone hqve any experience with those units or favorites?

Cubfan1963
10-28-10, 22:48
Appreciate the advise. Juan has the atl 1201 and the playa 301 available. Both seem nice. Anyone hqve any experience with those units or favorites?Youcan is correct 301 is VERY nice. Recently rehabed and very modern with flat screen TV etc. My friends stayed there August. I was very jealous as I was in 902 and it was not as refined. I have 301 for my visit in a few weeks. I will leave something for you under the mattress.

Uzinuzin
10-31-10, 19:42
Just got back from 3 weeks in CTG with a buddy, I'm not a big writer so I try to post some feedback when I get a chance. Right now I'm coping with serious pu**y withdrawal in the sex prison - damn it's hard, so I'm just going to say something about apartments.

As everyone mentioned forget hotels, though if you don't want to pay deposit upfront and rent without seeing, just book a night or two in a hotel and then you can go and see many places the next day. I saw some of Juan and Mery flats but they didn't have a 3 weeks continuous place available for us (and this was in low season Oct !? we wanted 2bed/2bath). Then we went around just asking at the receptions of buildings and some contacts I had from web, and soon saw nearly 10/15 flats. Negotiated the one we liked and moved in - no hassle. Though you need some Spanish I guess, AND a phone (get a SIM card from any shop, I got Movistar and found it VERY expensive, I heard Tigo is cheaper, don't know by how much. All have their own shop in Bocagrande.
. You can also just go to the guys in street corners who have phones for use in Bocagrande (have a sign says "Llamadas 150"), or even any store in Laguito, you can make a local/mobile call for 150-300 pesos per minute.

I think even booking in advance with Juan or Mery (both speak English) can't go much wrong. But make sure before you pay any more money when you arrive you check EVERYTHING in the flat, remember modem internet requires top-up (22k peso for a week) and it's slow. If something is not working, keep some money and say you pay when it's working properly. Clear up all fees for cleaning, towels etc. - try not to pay security deposit, to be returned later (we didn't). You might not see that again. Also they charge 5k-10k or something like that for registration at the reception (make sure you don't have to pay that for chicas - this could be a side-earner for receptionists, check and clear it right at the beginning with owner and receptionist present together.). These are general advise not particularly for Juan/Mery. I'm sure you have less issue with them as guys here use them all the time.

As for living in Bocagrande or Laguito there is not a big difference really, it's 5-10 minutes walk (more restaurant options in BG - we only ate there). The biggest issue is noise, no matter where you are, you are up at 7am because of unbelievable noise - all kind of noise that you can not imagine !?

For proximity, you want to be near Hollywood beach (5 minutes from Laguito/BG, though longer if staying further down BG). The beach is where Laguito/BG meet. That's where WG hang out. LDV is very near to there too. For everything else you need to taxi back and forth (5k day, 6K night fixed price to center or vice versa from either of these places.). We walked to BG from Laguito every night for dinner 8/9pm, no problem. Generally there are so much military and police in BG/Laguito/Center, I don't thing anyone dares to try anything.

For temporary hotel stay, worth mentioning small hotels in BG on the street parallel to San Martin (Cra 3) - note difference between Cra, Carrera, and Calle, I think it's Cra 4, and just before Olypmica supermarket, there are 5 or more hotels in a row (I never checked them or asked for prices, but saw a lot of Colombians stay there, so assume reasonable prices) . But we stayed in Estrela Oceania next to Hilton in Laguito for two nights (not sure if GF, never asked - we were two guys in a twin room, so no option for chicas really !?). It's a good price if you book on Expedia.co.uk, nice hotel too.

One last thing, we saw a real big variety of apartments and standards, pictures never tell you the whole story. So beware you can only be sure of a place until you see it. You might also be subject to bait & switch, so be prepared and complain in that case - get a discount if standard is not what you expect or should be.

Golfinho
11-01-10, 01:45
As everyone mentioned forget hotels, though if you don't want to pay deposit upfront and rent without seeing, just book a night or two in a hotel and then you can go and see many places the next day. I saw some of Juan and Mery flats but they didn't have a 3 weeks continuous place available for us (and this was in low season Oct !? we wanted 2bed/2bath). Then we went around just asking at the receptions of buildings and some contacts I had from web, and soon saw nearly 10/15 flats. Negotiated the one we liked and moved in - no hassle. Though you need some Spanish I guess, AND a .It's true that apartments are available, and in some of the newest buildings in front of the beach at Boca Grande. Just walk in asking to see something. Some awesome pads, and NEW. Looking at some of these buildings at night, you few lights. Empty units, absentee owners. Have been quoted some outrageous prices at times, though have gotten an excellent 3-br for $160 a night. Doorman dialed the owner in Miami, we talked, he gives us the keys and we hand over the cash, USD. Guest friendly, of course.

Cubfan1963
11-02-10, 16:10
Just got back from 3 weeks in CTG with a buddy, I'm not a big writer so I try to post some feedback when I get a chance. Right now I'm coping with serious pu**y withdrawal in the sex prison. Damn it's hard, so I'm just going to say something about apartments.

As everyone mentioned forget hotels, though if you don't want to pay deposit upfront and rent without seeing, just book a night or two in a hotel and then you can go and see many places the next day. I saw some of Juan and Mery flats but they didn't have a 3 weeks continuous place available for us (and this was in low season Oct! We wanted 2bed/2bath). Then we went around just asking at the receptions of buildings and some contacts I had from web, and soon saw nearly 10/15 flats. Negotiated the one we liked and moved in. No hassle. Though you need some Spanish I guess, AND a phone (get a SIM card from any shop, I got Movistar and found it VERY expensive, I heard Tigo is cheaper, don't know by how much. All have their own shop in Bocagrande.

. You can also just go to the guys in street corners who have phones for use in Bocagrande (have a sign says "Llamadas 150"), or even any store in Laguito, you can make a local/mobile call for 150-300 pesos per minute.

I think even booking in advance with Juan or Mery (both speak English) can't go much wrong. But make sure before you pay any more money when you arrive you check EVERYTHING in the flat, remember modem internet requires top-up (22k peso for a week) and it's slow. If something is not working, keep some money and say you pay when it's working properly. Clear up all fees for cleaning, towels etc.. Try not to pay security deposit, to be returned later (we didn't). You might not see that again. Also they charge 5k-10k or something like that for registration at the reception (make sure you don't have to pay that for chicas. This could be a side-earner for receptionists, check and clear it right at the beginning with owner and receptionist present together.). These are general advise not particularly for Juan/Mery. I'm sure you have less issue with them as guys here use them all the time.

As for living in Bocagrande or Laguito there is not a big difference really, it's 5-10 minutes walk (more restaurant options in BG. We only ate there). The biggest issue is noise, no matter where you are, you are up at 7am because of unbelievable noise. All kind of noise that you can not imagine!

For proximity, you want to be near Hollywood beach (5 minutes from Laguito/BG, though longer if staying further down BG). The beach is where Laguito/BG meet. That's where WG hang out. LDV is very near to there too. For everything else you need to taxi back and forth (5k day, 6K night fixed price to center or vice versa from either of these places.). We walked to BG from Laguito every night for dinner 8/9pm, no problem. Generally there are so much military and police in BG/Laguito/Center, I don't thing anyone dares to try anything.

For temporary hotel stay, worth mentioning small hotels in BG on the street parallel to San Martin (Cra 3). Note difference between Cra, Carrera, and Calle, I think it's Cra 4, and just before Olypmica supermarket, there are 5 or more hotels in a row (I never checked them or asked for prices, but saw a lot of Colombians stay there, so assume reasonable prices). But we stayed in Estrela Oceania next to Hilton in Laguito for two nights (not sure if GF, never asked. We were two guys in a twin room, so no option for chicas really!). It's a good price if you book on Expedia. Co. Uk, nice hotel too.

One last thing, we saw a real big variety of apartments and standards, pictures never tell you the whole story. So beware you can only be sure of a place until you see it. You might also be subject to bait & switch, so be prepared and complain in that case. Get a discount if standard is not what you expect or should be.I like how you operate. You simply made your own opportunity. Yes, dealing with Juan and Mery are probably the easy solution but not the only ones. You will probably find better values with your method and a little footwork. I hope if other guys try the is method that they report back with there new finds.

Math92
11-03-10, 18:51
I have just make the initial one night's PayPal deposit.

Have you alrealdy rented apartment cent302?

World Travel 69
11-03-10, 20:39
I know it is hard to find, but here is the Thread for it.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2483

Cubfan1963
11-04-10, 18:55
I have just make the initial one night's PayPal deposit.

Have you alrealdy rented apartment cent302?I have Playa Mar 302 rented for next week.

I am not familar with Cent 302

Uzinuzin
11-06-10, 01:52
Here is a summary of my general impression of our favourite activity in CTG. Bear in mind that this was my first trip to Colombia, so bear that in mind when reading.

To start with the COP was very strong when I was there, 1790 pesos for a dollar (or even lower on some days). So at first CTG seemed quite expensive. But if you work with say 2500 (only a 1.5 year ago, then it's not so bad. So if COP loose value again, prices will be in line with DR and Thai really, and much cheaper than Brazil. I think Argentina/DR peso is quite low now, though I'm not sure about their inflation. Thai Baht is also staying strangely strong.

Chicas operate in a few main locations/styles in CTG. We have freelancers in LDV, and some at the beach - the beach girls mainly operate under Tony and his guards, so you either pay them directly or the girls pay them out of their own take (that is if you pick them off the beach yourself without Tony's intervention - I think they get permission to hang out !). Of course there are some real free agents that I picked up, they were mainly new comers and perhaps later will go/operator under Tony and his clans...

The whole scene is very subdued at the beach and street, under watchful eyes of loads of police who do not interfere as far as I could see. By the way they provide excellent security, very safe in BG, Laguito and old town (centro). Beyond that I can't comment (I heard mixed stories and never went to there).

The final operators work in casas/bars and need you to pay salida (multa) to get them out. This is like Isis (in centro behind Tu Candela) and Chica Linda and Casique (sp?), Aquarious (sp?) further beyond in El Bosque area. We picked up a few girls from the beach that worked in the above at night and gave me all the lowdown on what is like there - we went to Isis but didn't like it, expensive and same girls you can find in LDV (though a little striptease they had is not bad but we just got to the end of it and they are far and few in between). 12k beer, no entrerance. LDV has 10k beer no enterance. Tu candela has 10k enterance that you can exchange for a bear or deduct from bottle cost. (Tu Candela occasionally has freelancers but they are normally not allowed to go in - so go check it out but have plan B).

Generally I liked the beach and freelancer scene so that's where we hanged most of the time. My info is quite limited on the casas/bars with salida, only hearsay.

Colombian girls, even pros, are very passive. They never come to you. Even LDV only has a few braves that come to you without you initiating a smile or a nod. So you can't be shy there. On the beach or street they just look and if you are lucky a smile or say "massaje ?" and walk away. You have to go to them and talk (or else ask the boys on the beach). Fortunately for me I speak some Spanish and have no shame what-so-ever !!! I even go right up to the normal girls and say hello if I get a signal. So I was picking them like cherries off the tree. Tony and his crowd were so impressed they didn't even once offered us chicas !?!?

I also love dancing salsa and all the latin music. So went to Cafe Havana a few times and found a couple of freelancers from there - again you can't be shy and it helps if you can move with the music a bit. It's only open Thr, Fri, Sat and it's 7000p entery and 7000p beer. It gets really packed so only go there if you like live salsa music.

LDV was fun, I just bought drinks for the girls and dance with them and get their phone number. Then call them during the afternoon or evening for better price/performance. At night these girls are different kind of animals. Pretty hard pros - though there are a few gems you need to look more to find. A bit better during the day and before the real wolf come out !? By the way all of the go to Electra later till 5/6am - we never went there. That's why if you even pull them at 3am, they finish you in 30min or 1 hour and off to Electra for more !

Also LDV has the biggest concentration of silicon - in fact a lot of the girls in the street and affluent Colombian tourists all had fake tits (even asses I think !). A real silicon valley. Though I think CTG (specially WG and affluent tourists are not a good representative of the masses in the country). I don't particularly like it but despite my best effort twice I only found out in bed that I struck fake....!?

For street action go straight to Plaza de Reloj at night (after 10/11pm), right in front of Tu Candela and El Fidel. You can sit at El Fidel tables outside and the local beer at El Fidel is 3000p all night. Quite reasonable if you ask me. Most of the SW are to be avoided. But you occasionally get some new comers who hang around there. They are just visiting from other cities for a week or two to make money. I met a few of them on the beach and later at night in the plaza. The better looking ones later got a job in the casa (they told me), others just hang around the beach and plaza.

Also there are girls walking around in Laguito around 6/7pm that smile and say "massaje", you can stop and chat with them. These are lower standard of course, a bit cheaper but unfortunately you still get a rush job. Because they have they rounds to do !? They go from apartment to apartment ringing places they visited (I used to watch this from our balcony). They started ringing ours after we did a couple - nice if you need a snack !

I think for LDV you need to have certain standards and/or know people, these girls (SW and what I call visiting, new comers) would not appear there at night. They are actually a good deal, cheap and stay longer ( not SW but visiting/new comers even stay TLN).

CTG is a weekend town, bear this in mind when planning a trip, very quite and some places dead or close during the week (many Colombian tourist come at weekends only). On Wed night I went to at least 4/5 clubs and ended up back at LDV because there were so quite. Even LDV had lower attendance (though it was Oct, low season).

Now the prices. At LDV they start with 400k or 300k, quickly down to 200k. If you haggle they do you for 150k at night, but that would be a rush job - 30min max, very mechanical but they do all the standard stuff (BBBJ is not very common, one refused it no matter what I said - I am very good at negotiating and persuading, but not this one ... !?)

Some LDV chicas will do you for 100k during the afternoon/evening and stay a bit longer and more relax, but some insist on 150k. Of course I haggled them down to even 80k (+taxi) but I could clearly see they weren't happy, it was the quite time in Oct, so were still accepting...

Of course beach and street chicas go for less (note, not the LDV or Tony's girls on the beach, but the other ones, under visitng/new comers I mentioned). I got these for 75k plus 5k or 10k taxi. Even did a couple for 60k from street. Though I'm a compulsive haggler and I don't recommend it to others. Sometime I think I go over the top and that affects the service, who knows, you could pay more but still get the same service...

Anyway, at the end I found a real stunner of 21 which gave me excellent GFE, so I took her out dining and dancing and fun all night for the last 4 days of my stay. What luck !?

The quality of the chicas here is very high, you will be well surprised, but they are mostly very hardcore/mechanical. For finding the gems you need Spanish and skill and of course luck. If the flight from UK wasn't 19 hours !? I would visit CTG regularly, but for now I can fly direct to DR and Thai, so I'm off there for my next two trips...

If I can answer any questions to do with chicas and/or normal touristy stuff in CTG, just ask - though they are a lot more Colombia & CTG expert here that can help.

Cheers,

Gonzo
11-06-10, 07:32
A five star report Uzinuzin, chock full of information, free of self-aggrandizement, helpful to newbies, very descriptive. Thanks for taking the time to write it all up.

Here is a summary of my general impression of our favourite activity in CTG. Bear in mind that this was my first trip to Colombia, so bear that in mind when reading.

Tomasb
11-09-10, 22:41
The Cartagena lists tab is very helpful as I was looking for the location of the Elektra Club as I think my apt. is close by.

Elektra Club is on Calle 35 #7-28, Calle de la Tablada, San Diego barrio. I am staying at a place on Calle de la Tablada so it is obviously near. Should be easy pickings given my location...

I am arriving on Thursday evening in CTG and will spend the weekend. After that, I will be traveling around Colombia a bit. Perhaps, Viila de Ley, San Gil, Barichara, and Bucaramanga. Anyone been to these places? It is my 2nd trip to COL as I visited this past September. I went to MDE in Sept. but would be bored to go back again this soon.

Also, I was thinking it might be fun to go to the beauty pageant in CTG this weekend. On the other hand it might be too expensive or difficult to get tickets at this late juncture. Anyone ever gone to this or know where it is held?

Math92
11-10-10, 01:19
I have Playa Mar 302 rented for next week.

I am not familar with Cent 302Cent 302 is located in Edificio Torrecentauro.

It is near Hotel Hilton in El Laguito area.

Hilltopper
11-10-10, 07:51
Here is a summary of my general impression of our favourite activity in CTG. Bear in mind that this was my first trip to Colombia, so bear that in mind when reading.




Excellent report, and very informative; thanks for sharing. I concur about the newcomers/visitors...they can make for some really enjoyable, non-rushed, GFE. I find them to be best fit for my preferences.

Thanks again!

You Can
11-10-10, 10:57
This was a good report. Only thing I disagree with is the comment about bbbj not common. I have been there many times, and have maybe had one girl in many try to use a condom for bj and once I told her nicely to be on her way, she went for it. Other then that I enjoyed your report. If you treat the girls nice it goes a long way.



Here is a summary of my general impression of our favourite activity in CTG. Bear in mind that this was my first trip to Colombia, so bear that in mind when reading.

To start with the COP was very strong when I was there, 1790 pesos for a dollar (or even lower on some days). So at first CTG seemed quite expensive. But if you work with say 2500 (only a 1.5 year ago, then it's not so bad. So if COP loose value again, prices will be in line with DR and Thai really, and much cheaper than Brazil. I think Argentina/DR peso is quite low now, though I'm not sure about their inflation. Thai Baht is also staying strangely strong.

Chicas operate in a few main locations/styles in CTG. We have freelancers in LDV, and some at the beach - the beach girls mainly operate under Tony and his guards, so you either pay them directly or the girls pay them out of their own take (that is if you pick them off the beach yourself without Tony's intervention - I think they get permission to hang out !). Of course there are some real free agents that I picked up, they were mainly new comers and perhaps later will go/operator under Tony and his clans...

The whole scene is very subdued at the beach and street, under watchful eyes of loads of police who do not interfere as far as I could see. By the way they provide excellent security, very safe in BG, Laguito and old town (centro). Beyond that I can't comment (I heard mixed stories and never went to there).

The final operators work in casas/bars and need you to pay salida (multa) to get them out. This is like Isis (in centro behind Tu Candela) and Chica Linda and Casique (sp?), Aquarious (sp?) further beyond in El Bosque area. We picked up a few girls from the beach that worked in the above at night and gave me all the lowdown on what is like there - we went to Isis but didn't like it, expensive and same girls you can find in LDV (though a little striptease they had is not bad but we just got to the end of it and they are far and few in between). 12k beer, no entrerance. LDV has 10k beer no enterance. Tu candela has 10k enterance that you can exchange for a bear or deduct from bottle cost. (Tu Candela occasionally has freelancers but they are normally not allowed to go in - so go check it out but have plan B).

Generally I liked the beach and freelancer scene so that's where we hanged most of the time. My info is quite limited on the casas/bars with salida, only hearsay.

Colombian girls, even pros, are very passive. They never come to you. Even LDV only has a few braves that come to you without you initiating a smile or a nod. So you can't be shy there. On the beach or street they just look and if you are lucky a smile or say "massaje ?" and walk away. You have to go to them and talk (or else ask the boys on the beach). Fortunately for me I speak some Spanish and have no shame what-so-ever !!! I even go right up to the normal girls and say hello if I get a signal. So I was picking them like cherries off the tree. Tony and his crowd were so impressed they didn't even once offered us chicas !?!?

I also love dancing salsa and all the latin music. So went to Cafe Havana a few times and found a couple of freelancers from there - again you can't be shy and it helps if you can move with the music a bit. It's only open Thr, Fri, Sat and it's 7000p entery and 7000p beer. It gets really packed so only go there if you like live salsa music.

LDV was fun, I just bought drinks for the girls and dance with them and get their phone number. Then call them during the afternoon or evening for better price/performance. At night these girls are different kind of animals. Pretty hard pros - though there are a few gems you need to look more to find. A bit better during the day and before the real wolf come out !? By the way all of the go to Electra later till 5/6am - we never went there. That's why if you even pull them at 3am, they finish you in 30min or 1 hour and off to Electra for more !

Also LDV has the biggest concentration of silicon - in fact a lot of the girls in the street and affluent Colombian tourists all had fake tits (even asses I think !). A real silicon valley. Though I think CTG (specially WG and affluent tourists are not a good representative of the masses in the country). I don't particularly like it but despite my best effort twice I only found out in bed that I struck fake....!?

For street action go straight to Plaza de Reloj at night (after 10/11pm), right in front of Tu Candela and El Fidel. You can sit at El Fidel tables outside and the local beer at El Fidel is 3000p all night. Quite reasonable if you ask me. Most of the SW are to be avoided. But you occasionally get some new comers who hang around there. They are just visiting from other cities for a week or two to make money. I met a few of them on the beach and later at night in the plaza. The better looking ones later got a job in the casa (they told me), others just hang around the beach and plaza.

Also there are girls walking around in Laguito around 6/7pm that smile and say "massaje", you can stop and chat with them. These are lower standard of course, a bit cheaper but unfortunately you still get a rush job. Because they have they rounds to do !? They go from apartment to apartment ringing places they visited (I used to watch this from our balcony). They started ringing ours after we did a couple - nice if you need a snack !

I think for LDV you need to have certain standards and/or know people, these girls (SW and what I call visiting, new comers) would not appear there at night. They are actually a good deal, cheap and stay longer ( not SW but visiting/new comers even stay TLN).

CTG is a weekend town, bear this in mind when planning a trip, very quite and some places dead or close during the week (many Colombian tourist come at weekends only). On Wed night I went to at least 4/5 clubs and ended up back at LDV because there were so quite. Even LDV had lower attendance (though it was Oct, low season).

Now the prices. At LDV they start with 400k or 300k, quickly down to 200k. If you haggle they do you for 150k at night, but that would be a rush job - 30min max, very mechanical but they do all the standard stuff (BBBJ is not very common, one refused it no matter what I said - I am very good at negotiating and persuading, but not this one ... !?)

Some LDV chicas will do you for 100k during the afternoon/evening and stay a bit longer and more relax, but some insist on 150k. Of course I haggled them down to even 80k (+taxi) but I could clearly see they weren't happy, it was the quite time in Oct, so were still accepting...

Of course beach and street chicas go for less (note, not the LDV or Tony's girls on the beach, but the other ones, under visitng/new comers I mentioned). I got these for 75k plus 5k or 10k taxi. Even did a couple for 60k from street. Though I'm a compulsive haggler and I don't recommend it to others. Sometime I think I go over the top and that affects the service, who knows, you could pay more but still get the same service...

Anyway, at the end I found a real stunner of 21 which gave me excellent GFE, so I took her out dining and dancing and fun all night for the last 4 days of my stay. What luck !?

The quality of the chicas here is very high, you will be well surprised, but they are mostly very hardcore/mechanical. For finding the gems you need Spanish and skill and of course luck. If the flight from UK wasn't 19 hours !? I would visit CTG regularly, but for now I can fly direct to DR and Thai, so I'm off there for my next two trips...

If I can answer any questions to do with chicas and/or normal touristy stuff in CTG, just ask - though they are a lot more Colombia & CTG expert here that can help.

Cheers,

Uzinuzin
11-12-10, 01:15
This was a good report. Only thing I disagree with is the comment about bbbj not common. I have been there many times, and have maybe had one girl in many try to use a condom for bj and once I told her nicely to be on her way, she went for it. Other then that I enjoyed your report. If you treat the girls nice it goes a long way.

Come to think of it I should give more details about BJ. In fact I only had that one girl refusing BBBJ, what happened was that my buddy reported more refusal (he was bitching about it so much it suck in my mind - you can't blame him, for him, and me, CBJ is useless).

Perhaps it all depends - though he's older than me, he's always very clean and no obvious reason for refusals. I think he perhaps had about 50% refusal, while I had 9%...... !?

Tomasb
11-12-10, 18:30
I am in CTG now and was looking for Club Elektra, which is incorrectly listed under a List Report as located on Calle de la Tablada. It's actually on Calle de la Tablon, which is a couple blocks from the aforementioned street. The sign on the front entry of Elektra said that only members or their guests can enter but I supposed that is an easy requirement to overcome. If anyone knows any particulars about that entry requirement, please let me know...

Just checked out the location as I am staying in an apartment a few blocks away, however, the time I walked past the club was around 8am and the place closes at 6am.

PS: It rained hard last night and CTG appeared very slow. It is also Independence weekend and the Museo de Oro is closed as is the Inquistion House until Tuesday or Monday, respectively. Hope the chicas are not on vacation too...

Cubfan1963
11-12-10, 21:06
I am in CTG now and was looking for Club Elektra, which is incorrectly listed under a List Report as located on Calle de la Tablada. It's actually on Calle de la Tablon, which is a couple blocks from the aforementioned street. The sign on the front entry of Elektra said that only members or their guests can enter but I supposed that is an easy requirement to overcome. If anyone knows any particulars about that entry requirement, please let me know.

Just checked out the location as I am staying in an apartment a few blocks away, however, the time I walked past the club was around 8am and the place closes at 6am.

PS: It rained hard last night and CTG appeared very slow. It is also Independence weekend and the Museo de Oro is closed as is the Inquistion House until Tuesday or Monday, respectively. Hope the chicas are not on vacation too.I just returned from CTG Wednesday night. The girls are definitely in town. In fact the MS. Colombia pagent is going on right now. I saw several doing videos around Centro. You can't miss them.

LDV was very crowded at earlier then normal hours. I walked in at 10: 30 on Monday and there were already about a dozen women there. In the past that doesn't happen until almost midnight.

Tomasb
11-13-10, 17:25
I don't know what happened about my report regarding the location of Elektra but it appears that the report was shortlived on the board. I went to ELEKTRA last night and once again, it is located on Calle de la Tablon; not Calle de la Tablada as a list from this board indicates. I know this for certain because I am staying on Calle de la Tablada and the remaining part of the address would have put the locations within two steps of the front entrance of my apartment. A few other things about the club. It actually (at least this weekend) opens at 2am and closes at 6am; not 1am. There also was no cover, though a Cuba Libre set me back $15 COP or about $8USD.

It's also much nicer inside than I expected. From the outer entry, it appears to be a complete dump but the inside is setup decently and though its not quite Tu Candela, it has a decent ambience.

Some of the girls are quite attractive, a few real stunners though many of the great looking one's appeared to already have dates. In the mix though are plenty of gordita's and aggressive girls. One grabbed my crotch several times as did one or two others. It got worse as the evening (early morning progressed). You had to avoid eye contact (like TR in Lima) as much as possible or the fugly one's would be all over you. One wench came over several times and smelled of stale cigarettes and 18hrs without a shower. Imagine having to envision waking up to that?

I finally tried to attempt the option one of the board members recently suggested about going for a day session. I selected a very shapley early 30's blond in a tight white dress and asked for her phone number to meet at my apartment during the day. She was not too thrilled by this approach but eventually relented and gave me her#. She also wanted $300COP, which was probalby the opening price though not sure if that was for two hours the next day or if she was available at two o'clock in the afternoon. If I do decide to call, I will take into account how unfriendly (i.e. hardcore)she was after our conversation where she provided her number. All of a sudden, she could not be bothered to talk to me and killed any chemistry we might have had. So it is not very likely I will get together with her unless her price is cut in half.

I finally stumbled out near closing time empty handed but I was not feeling all that great so will save my powder for another night. In general, the girls do appear pretty hard core and if the price the one girl asked is the norm, then over rated. When it gets to the point where I can go to Las Vegas instead...

Artful
11-14-10, 01:52
Elektra's a funny place. My guess it that it's 60% LDV girls there who still haven't hooked-up for the night, the rest are from the other CTG clubs. However, as well as these, I've also noticed some several druggies there who are properly hardcore. I made the mistake once of hooking up with a girl I'd never seen before. We went back to my apartment in Laguito. She was in the bathroom for about 15 minutes. i asked what she was doing and she said 'I was having a shit' (you knew the Colombianas were sexy, right?). We did the deed and she left an hour later. The next morning I discovered blood on my pillow case, then I looked in the bathroom and rifled through the trash can to discover straws and lots of blood-stained tissues. There are lots of recreational drug users in CTG, hell I'm one of them. This girl was lot more than that.

On the other hand, I've also noticed that although some of the others can appear hardcore at first, it's often just a front. I've had many experiences where the first time seems very hardcore but quickly evolves into much more GFE. My impression is that girls there like to preserve face amongst their girlfriends.

A


I don't know what happened about my report regarding the location of Elektra but it appears that the report was shortlived on the board. I went to ELEKTRA last night and once again, it is located on Calle de la Tablon; not Calle de la Tablada as a list from this board indicates. I know this for certain because I am staying on Calle de la Tablada and the remaining part of the address would have put the locations within two steps of the front entrance of my apartment. A few other things about the club. It actually (at least this weekend) opens at 2am and closes at 6am; not 1am. There also was no cover, though a Cuba Libre set me back $15 COP or about $8USD.

It's also much nicer inside than I expected. From the outer entry, it appears to be a complete dump but the inside is setup decently and though its not quite Tu Candela, it has a decent ambience.

Some of the girls are quite attractive, a few real stunners though many of the great looking one's appeared to already have dates. In the mix though are plenty of gordita's and aggressive girls. One grabbed my crotch several times as did one or two others. It got worse as the evening (early morning progressed). You had to avoid eye contact (like TR in Lima) as much as possible or the fugly one's would be all over you. One wench came over several times and smelled of stale cigarettes and 18hrs without a shower. Imagine having to envision waking up to that?

I finally tried to attempt the option one of the board members recently suggested about going for a day session. I selected a very shapley early 30's blond in a tight white dress and asked for her phone number to meet at my apartment during the day. She was not too thrilled by this approach but eventually relented and gave me her#. She also wanted $300COP, which was probalby the opening price though not sure if that was for two hours the next day or if she was available at two o'clock in the afternoon. If I do decide to call, I will take into account how unfriendly (i.e. hardcore)she was after our conversation where she provided her number. All of a sudden, she could not be bothered to talk to me and killed any chemistry we might have had. So it is not very likely I will get together with her unless her price is cut in half.

I finally stumbled out near closing time empty handed but I was not feeling all that great so will save my powder for another night. In general, the girls do appear pretty hard core and if the price the one girl asked is the norm, then over rated. When it gets to the point where I can go to Las Vegas instead...

Tomasb
11-14-10, 03:12
I wanted to add a few more observations about ELEKTRA CLUB since I am planning on going again this evening or should I say this morning. Last night, I arrived at around 3am and it was almost empty. Virtually no chicas and a few random guys. Well, shortly after that it started to become more crowded, however, it was more of a sausage fest than anything else. Not good, as that disproportion is not going to help the pricing! These are quite different odds from LDV as my only time there a few months ago, it was all girls and hardly any guys. However, since I am staying a few blocks away, I don't have a lot of interest in taking a taxi to the LDV since most end up at ELEKTRA anyway.

As the morning progressed, the odds gradually changed with more women than men. Observing the antics of the girls was pretty humorous as I was sitting by the large mirror near the entryway and several came over to 'fix their hair', and shake their booty all the while attempting to make eye contact. I usually don't smoke but there is an outdoor cig room in the back and I think I will bring my cigars tonite as that seems a better room to assess the talent. It is quite well lit and any flaws are easily seen, including mine (lol). One girl who was flirting with me in the dark inside section of the club sneered at me when I beckoned to her in the smoking area. Hey, lighten up, remember chica I am paying you, not the other way around.

Also, today I took a cab to La Boquilla, a tiny beach hamlet about 7k from CTG, as my LP guide suggested it was a good place for lunch. Guys, do not bother. It had been raining, the place was deserted and muddy with an ugly beach. Then some guy grabbed the taxi by the side handle as we drove to the beach and tried to direct the taxi driver to one of the deserted bamboo shacks masquerading as a restaurant. He literally held on to the car and ran with it for about 200 yds with the taxi driver locking all the doors and yelling at the guy to get his slimy hands off his taxi...about as third world as can be....Hysterical to think about it now, but a bit disconcerting while it was going on.

Tomasb
11-14-10, 17:30
Thought it was appropriate to do a follow-up about my Elektra visit last evening or early morning. Showed up around 3am after almost falling asleep and coaxing my tired ass out of bed. Walked down two blocks to the club -- one advantage to staying in El Centro.

Spotted a very petite young chica who was wearing a simple sundress and talking to a black girl who had been a bit agressive with me on the prior occasion in the club. When the black girl walked by a few minutes later, I asked her about the other girl. She promptly went over and told the girl to come over, which she did. I was concerned about this girl's age but she turned out to be 20. A smoking hot little girl who I could almost wrap my hands around her waist and I have small hands! Within 15 minutes, we are dirty dancing (is that what they call Salsa north of the border). Around that time, I saw another girl across the bar gesturing towards me. I quickly realized she was the girl I rented for a day on San Andreas Island in September. I wrote a report about it at the time to describe the fantastic day/evening with her. I had tried to contact her on this trip but her phone did not appear to be working.

Naturally, I wanted to talk to her but did not want to break the magic with the other girl and my San Andreas friend was smart enough not to come over. After several minutes, my petite friend said she need to visit the ladies room and I immediately took advantage of the opening. I went over and exchanged pleasantries with Ms. San Andreas and got her new number. Since she is actually from MDE, I did not determine whether she was visiting from there or was still on SAN ANDRES. After a few minutes, I strolled back to my original location. MS. Petite did not appear. Finally, I tracked her down in the cigarette room pouting and showing a new founded zero interest in me. She proceeded to completely blow me off and quoted $200COP for a 1/2 hour all the while complaining she was not mad at me.

Eventually, I gave up and stepped outside the bar to look for Ms. San Andreas who apparently had left in the interim. Then Ms. Petite came out of the club and with barely a glance at me or a goodbye strolled down the street by herself.

Now, I am totally exasperated. Spoke to one MDE chica who wanted $200COP (originally asked for$300COP but quickly went down to $200). However, no kissing allowed which is a total turnoff to me. Forgot GFE in those instances. To make a long story short, the black girl who had provided the original introduction came over. We quickly agreed on $150COP for the rest of the morning and she was spectacular. Totally GFE and a sweet girl to boot. I frankly was expecting the opposite due to the events of the rest of the evening but she made up for it. She just left my apartment and I will probably see her tonite at the ELEKTRA. Hoping to see Ms. San Andreas as well.

Believe me, this type of activity does not happen to me in the states! VIVA COLOMBIA!!!

Member #4349
11-15-10, 17:40
Does Tony the pimp still operate off the beach?

Whats his opening offer for a chica nowadays? I know he was stupid expensive when I was there a few years ago, but his opening offer would be interesting to compare to when I mongered hard.

I was getting 70/80cop on the streets, around 100cop out of LDV. I suspect its near doubled reading these reports.

Hilltopper
11-15-10, 19:09
Does Tony the pimp still operate off the beach?

Whats his opening offer for a chica nowadays? I know he was stupid expensive when I was there a few years ago, but his opening offer would be interesting to compare to when I mongered hard.

I was getting 70/80cop on the streets, around 100cop out of LDV. I suspect its near doubled reading these reports.

Tony's still in Playa Hollywood. In all my dealings with him, he's never mentioned an amount. Instead, it's always been left up to you and the chica. The chica then generally tips Tony 20 mil cop. for the introduction to you. He just makes the introduction. At least that's been my experience, but I imagine others may have had a different experience.

That being said, the typical rate can depend on length of time, etc., and can run from 70 - 80 mil to 150 mil. Again, just depends on all the variables, particularly whether s/t or TLN.

Tomasb
11-15-10, 20:48
If anyone saw my prior report from yesterday, you would have read that I claimed to have met a girl who I initially met in San Andreas a few months ago. I guess she was on my mind as the girl from ELEKTRA turned out NOT to be the same chica. I called the chica I met at ELEKTRA the next morning to arrange a rendezvous that evening and she seemed very confused as I was asking for her by the wrong name. She finally decided to meet that evening but it was like pulling teeth and she appeared two hours late.

Since I was hanging out at a local bar down the street from my apartment in El Centro, it did not matter much to me if she showed at all as I had just met a hot little costena from Sucre and her Bogata buddies while waiting for her appearance.

The girl finally showed and after several minutes of conversation, I came to the conclusion she was not the same girl from SAN ANDREAS but had a quite similar appearance. I told her about the confusion and she explained her confusion as well. She laughed it off and utimately we joined up with my new friends and we drank/danced together for an hour or so. After that I persuaded her to come down the street to my apartment. Within 10 minutes, I had her pantyless on the bed and since I specialize in DATY was offered ample opportunity to practice. She was one of the wettest girls I have ever encounted and I had to flip the sheets this morning. Needless to say, a great time was had by all, albeit for only about 20 minute, as her sister and mother kept calling her the whole time we were bangin away. How rude! As a result of their persisent calls, she had to leave. Apparently, she has a 4 year old due to an 'accidente' and the father is not around (imagine that).

I gave her $15cop for the cab as she lived 1/2 hour away. No other costs were discussed. I assume when she was in Elektra, she was part of the working crew but since she lives a 1/ 2 hour away, I wonder if it is possible she didn't know the activites going on at the club and randomly strolled in with her girlfriends. Seems unlikely but nevertheless, pulling a freebie is always nice...I may see her tonite and we discussed going to Taganga if it ever stops raining...In closing can I add she was a very nice fun girl and so was the one I took out of ELEKTRA the night before.

Also, these two experiences and my experiences in SAN ANDRES are so dissimilar to the type of girls I seem to meet in Lima.

Ricker
11-16-10, 15:31
... I persuaded her to come down the street to my apartment. Within 10 minutes, I had her pantyless on the bed and since I specialize in DATY was offered ample opportunity to practice ... Needless to say, a great time was had by all, albeit for only about 20 minute, as her sister and mother kept calling her the whole time we were bangin away. How rude! ...



Glad you're having fun amigo!!

Don't ya hate those damn cel phone calls while trying to enjoy time with a chica though??

Kinda kills the moment.

Ho Lover1
11-17-10, 06:10
Tony's still in Playa Hollywood. In all my dealings with him, he's never mentioned an amount. Instead, it's always been left up to you and the chica. The chica then generally tips Tony 20 mil cop. for the introduction to you. He just makes the introduction. At least that's been my experience, but I imagine others may have had a different experience.

That being said, the typical rate can depend on length of time, etc., and can run from 70 - 80 mil to 150 mil. Again, just depends on all the variables, particularly whether s/t or TLN.Will Tony talk to anyone you are interested in meeting or just the chicas he is pimping?

Tomasb
11-17-10, 14:56
Quick question for the board. I met an attractive prepago in Cartagena before I left CTG yesterday to travel to other parts of the country. However, I am returning to CTG later in the trip and I told her that I was looking for company for a 3 or 4 day visit to Taganga and Tayrona, which are about a 4 hour bus ride to these beach and national park areas near Santa Marta.

She was very receptive to this idea and I told her that I would call her later in the week to discuss details. I only met her for about a 1/2 hour along with her girlfriend in the beer drinking area in front of Fidel's so I do not have any further experiences with her. But this girl and her friend were personable and gorgeous. The girl who I invited is in her early 30's (I am 62) with one child, quite tall, long honey blond hair (i.e. like a 40's actress), and has almost alabaster skin. Incidentally, her friend (Jacqueline) is pitch black, beautiful, with an incredible body. They make quite the combo!

Anyway, how much would I expect to pay for her 'guia' services? Obviously, the hotel and food is part of the cost and it is a free vacation for her but I imagine she might expect other compensation. Any suggestions or experiences would be greatly appreciated...



Elektra's a funny place. My guess it that it's 60% LDV girls there who still haven't hooked-up for the night, the rest are from the other CTG clubs. However, as well as these, I've also noticed some several druggies there who are properly hardcore. I made the mistake once of hooking up with a girl I'd never seen before. We went back to my apartment in Laguito. She was in the bathroom for about 15 minutes. i asked what she was doing and she said 'I was having a shit' (you knew the Colombianas were sexy, right?). We did the deed and she left an hour later. The next morning I discovered blood on my pillow case, then I looked in the bathroom and rifled through the trash can to discover straws and lots of blood-stained tissues. There are lots of recreational drug users in CTG, hell I'm one of them. This girl was lot more than that.

On the other hand, I've also noticed that although some of the others can appear hardcore at first, it's often just a front. I've had many experiences where the first time seems very hardcore but quickly evolves into much more GFE. My impression is that girls there like to preserve face amongst their girlfriends.

A

Hilltopper
11-17-10, 15:39
Will Tony talk to anyone you are interested in meeting or just the chicas he is pimping?


Anyone! He has no fear (or as others would say, no manners) and will have that chica sitting next to you in a blink of the eye. On several occassions I've asked him does he know the "chica over there" and what's her story? He'll say no, but then ask me if I want to meet her and before I can even answer he's already walking away to speak to her. I haven't a clue what he says to 'em, but whatever it is, it works more times than not.

Member #3435
11-17-10, 17:31
Quick question for the board. I met an attractive prepago in Cartagena before I left CTG yesterday to travel to other parts of the country. However, I am returning to CTG later in the trip and I told her that I was looking for company for a 3 or 4 day visit to Taganga and Tayrona, which are about a 4 hour bus ride to these beach and national park areas near Santa Marta.

She was very receptive to this idea and I told her that I would call her later in the week to discuss details. I only met her for about a 1/2 hour along with her girlfriend in the beer drinking area in front of Fidel's so I do not have any further experiences with her. But this girl and her friend were personable and gorgeous. The girl who I invited is in her early 30's (I am 62) with one child, quite tall, long honey blond hair (i.e. like a 40's actress), and has almost alabaster skin. Incidentally, her friend (Jacqueline) is pitch black, beautiful, with an incredible body. They make quite the combo!

Anyway, how much would I expect to pay for her 'guia' services? Obviously, the hotel and food is part of the cost and it is a free vacation for her but I imagine she might expect other compensation. Any suggestions or experiences would be greatly appreciated...

Tomas:

I'll answer your question with my opinion but before I do I gotta tell ya dude, I think your whole plan is bad. A flawed premise. You hardly know these 2 pro-babes, you're a gringo in your sixties, and you're about to invite both or one of them for a 3 or 4 day all expense paid vacation to Santa Marta?

IMO, you'll be viewed by them as nothing but a walking ATM. Hang with her in CTG for a few days and take her to one of the islands for a day trip or two but don't commit to a long multi-day overland trip. It could go bad real easy. Real bad. Besides, there's P4P in Santa Marta & El Rodadero. Why be burdened?

But to answer your question: Knowing that they are pro's and the sky's the limit concerning what they are going to hit you with and you are going to pay bus fares, lodgeing, and supplies plus misc expenses, I would just offer them a little walking around money .

Or, maybe make her your bursor and give her money for all your daily expenses plus a little extra so you know she always has something for herself. She pays all your tabs, grocery bills, etc while you play aloof to all the bill collectors. Just another idea. This would imply some trust on your part towards her that she won't abuse her role.

I'm not cheap but I am an experienced negotiator. They'll hit you sky high, you have to open equally low. Give her your MPP (Maximum Plausible Position).

At most, I would agree to around, maybe,,,, 100K COP per day, includes sex.
Believe me, they'll nibble you for more, but that would be my agreement beforehand. Whatever the amount, get a commitment. Don't leave it vague.

Good luck, Schwmm

John Gault
11-18-10, 05:21
Hi Delta,

It must have been interesting, meeting yourself like that. Did On The Go show up as well?

To the uninitiated, Deltapilot is the former poster known as Urban Wildlife until, by overwhelming public demand, he was banned. Before that, he was known as On The Go and was also banned after an upheaval in the Thai section a few years ago.

Urban's fin de siecle was a boat trip from Cartagena city beach which had members of the third sex aboard and which was highlighted by the intuitive poster Prov1. The end came quickly after that.
I was vics picks but I had to change my handle to john Gault due to a family member who stumbled on to my posts. The truth is I know both deltapilot and urbanwildlife and I can state they are two different people.
Many ,many ISG members know me and have faith in my word. What a shame good guys like Urban were driven from this board. I was with Urban last winter in CTG for three days and we had a blast. This board doesn't need this kind of BS. Wise up and grow up.

Ricker
11-18-10, 16:55
Quick question for the board. I met an attractive prepago in Cartagena before I left CTG yesterday to travel to other parts of the country. However, I am returning to CTG later in the trip and I told her that I was looking for company for a 3 or 4 day visit to Taganga and Tayrona, which are about a 4 hour bus ride to these beach and national park areas near Santa Marta.

She was very receptive to this idea and I told her that I would call her later in the week to discuss details. I only met her for about a 1/2 hour along with her girlfriend in the beer drinking area in front of Fidel's so I do not have any further experiences with her. experiences would be greatly appreciated...

Me personally, I'd spend a little time with her in Cartagena, at least a day, to see what she"s really like, if you have chemestry, if she's a hardened money grubber or a sweetheart, etc, etc, before I traveled with her.

A 1/2 hour chat in a bar doesn't really give ya the real scoop.

Screaming Beaver
11-18-10, 23:13
To the uninitiated, Deltapilot is the former poster known as Urban Wildlife until, by overwhelming public demand, he was banned. Before that, he was known as On The Go and was also banned after an upheaval in the Thai section a few years ago.I lost count after 15 different handles this Deltapilot had which were all banned. Apparently, he always has several names on this board at one time which results in him talking to himself a lot. I’d guess he keeps track of all these different names and passwords on a spreadsheet.


The truth is I know both deltapilot and urbanwildlife and I can state they are two different people.So, how long have you been seeing double? LOL


When I read that series of posts, I couldn't help but wonder if Vics Pics knowingly played along or didn't have any idea?Urban Wildlife has been known to pick up the tab for drinks and women with the proviso you say something nice about him on the board. Obviously, this was one of those times.

MiamiHeatLuver
11-19-10, 00:23
I was vics picks but I had to change my handle to john Gault due to a family member who stumbled on to my posts. The truth is I know both deltapilot and urbanwildlife and I can state they are two different people.
Many ,many ISG members know me and have faith in my word. What a shame good guys like Urban were driven from this board. I was with Urban last winter in CTG for three days and we had a blast. This board doesn't need this kind of BS. Wise up and grow up.

Urban was a good guy and we helped each other out a few times. Me personally I never had a problem with him. Can you send him a Salutations from me please?

John Gault
11-19-10, 14:18
I lost count after 15 different handles this Deltapilot had which were all banned. Apparently, he always has several names on this board at one time which results in him talking to himself a lot. I’d guess he keeps track of all these different names and passwords on a spreadsheet.

So, how long have you been seeing double? LOL

Urban Wildlife has been known to pick up the tab for drinks and women with the proviso you say something nice about him on the board. Obviously, this was one of those times.
One day guys like you may write a actual trip report. Till that day comes go suck a lemon.

Screaming Beaver
11-19-10, 15:54
Urban Wildlife then got some girls from there and off to his apartment in Lagito for some fun. We all chiped in 80K and all the girls took there clothes off and danced for a while. The funny thing was the first one to completly disrobe was Urban. That blew my mind, but not the girls as they quickly joined him. Urban is a trip and in two days he killed 4 bottles of Crown Royal. Also I don't think he got 5 hours sleep in the 3 days.Wow, hanging out with a 15 time banned, drunken, naked insomniac must have been fabulous however I'd prefer to pick up my own tab and hang out with normal people.

Kayak
11-19-10, 16:32
First time in Medellin and staying in nice apartment in El Poblado arranged by helpful Andrew. Walked to Centro de Masajes Pekin. Calle 10A #43A-31, Apt. 201. Hesitant to ring bell, but in dark finally could read Pekin on buzzer. Two girls were there at 7 pm. Both good looking and sweet and none could speak English. Andrea was especially beautiful and wonderful body. Says she's a commercial model and goes to college, of course. 100k for 45 minutes and 25k more BB for BJ. Very personable and spent full time with me, but "amateurish".

Member #3435
11-20-10, 15:27
Wow, hanging out with a 15 time banned, drunken, naked insomniac must have been fabulous however I'd prefer to pick up my own tab and hang out with normal people.

Very well said.

4 bottles in two days. The skill. What an accomplishment!

Schwmm

You Can
11-20-10, 17:50
Who the fuck cares how many handles the guy had, dont you have anything better to do then keep track of somebodys handles? By the way I have met Urbanwildlife, delta pilot and Vics pics and there all alot of fun. Believe me Urbanwildlife doesnt need to pick up a tab so someone writes something nice about him on a board. As a matter of fact he couldnt fucking care a less if someone writes something nice about him. He is a wealth of knowledge about various country's and a fun guy to hang out with.
As far as hilltopper goes, he has a hard on for Urbanwildlife because Urban was fucking his girl who he thought didnt sell her goods, didnt do drugs and wasnt into other chicas. Well urban was knocking that chic down while she was partying and eating pussy like a crazed dog! Git wit you later !



I lost count after 15 different handles this Deltapilot had which were all banned. Apparently, he always has several names on this board at one time which results in him talking to himself a lot. I’d guess he keeps track of all these different names and passwords on a spreadsheet.

So, how long have you been seeing double? LOL

Urban Wildlife has been known to pick up the tab for drinks and women with the proviso you say something nice about him on the board. Obviously, this was one of those times.

DirkDingy
11-21-10, 09:13
CTG isn’t what it used to be—an influx of Yanks and Spaghetti eaters, the decline of the dollar, strengthening of the Colombian economy (and resultant increase in price), the commercialization of the scene and relative hardness of the chicas, and the appearance of “patrons”—read pimps—all make CTG a bit less appealing than what it was when I initially visited about nine years ago. To boot, Tony’s cocaine habit is roaring out of control (he averages 7 sniffles a minute) and his conduct is genuinely beyond the pale. He tried to charge me 80k pesos for a beer, a coke, and a water for the chica. When I corrected him on it he attempted to “lower” the price to $50. Oh, and NEVER give him your phone number, if you do he will call no less than six bazillion times in 90 minutes.

The scene revolves around the beach girls during the day that go from about 120k to 150k for a shot and the disco girls at night. There is an overlap with the girls between the two scenes but not all beach girls work the discos and vice versa. My biggest surprise was that I often saw the hottest girls serving three different men during the course of a few hours at night. Contrary to my expectations, the girls were mostly interesting in hooking a john, doing the deed for 15-35 minutes, and getting out the door to collect the next one. There is also a new bar called Easy which is run by an American which has a business model which I can’t quite comprehend: It’s a gilry bar with girls that are generally less prettier than the LDV girls but the price is a about 100k pesos more; pay more and get less ***The bar is owned by an American who also owns the strip club in town. Frankly I am surprised that this fellow hasn’t been put out of business yet since the American govt does not look kindly upon Yanks abroad involved in the flesh trade.***

The talent level and service at LDV has certainly declined although there are still some 7’s about an occasional eight to be seen. The price is usually 150k per pop and ~250k for all night, which normally means that after one pop the girl will start to whine, talk on her phone, at which time an argument will ensue which will result in you paying 200k for one pop and an argument. That being said, the uglier the girl is the more likely she will negotiate on her price and keep her word on the length of time that she agreed to stay. After the LDV closes the girl end up in Elektra, a late night disco, where the price may go down a bit, but it’s still one shot and out the door.

***More on this in a different post, but if you are willing to fund party favors for the girls the sex will be much better and they will stay longer; however, I’m generally a very risk averse person and not comfortable with illegal drugs in foreign lands being in my proximity***

CTG is a hot and dirty shithole that’s no longer a great value—food is relatively expensive too. The hookers there are all from other cities and charge too much for what they deliver. The indigenous women of CTG are normally of the shortish, fatish, and darkish variety which don’t do a whole lot for me. I tried the marriage agency thing and was surprised at the number of men that marry women who they don’t share a common tongue with: “What do you mean sir? We only have a few girls that speak a little bit of English…but most of our guys don’t speak Spanish and they still have a successful relationship. “ No wonder why so many of these mail order bride deals end in disaster. One thing which amused me was the career rounding up that occurred: a dental hygienist is advertised as a dentist, a notary public as a lawyer, and the unemployed and hookers as students. It doesn’t really matter, but it further buttresses my observations that the average Americans who goes to a marriage agency has no idea in hell what who he is getting involved with.

I won’t be returning to CTG anytime soon, BOG and MDE are much better places with prettier gals at cheaper prices.

DirkDingy
11-21-10, 09:16
A great Experience: Two of the best four fucks of my life have occurred in CTG. Both involved anal sex—(something I have done four times), both involved the dismissal of the one of the other female parties involved, and both involved the girl in question partaking in party favors.

I was feeling a bit bored in LDV and accepted a rather nonchalant invitation from a table of three hookers to join them. This normally means “hay man, you sat here so you gotta pay the tab” but I noted that they were drinking rum and other booze which didn’t scream imported and expensive so I figured WTF. After a few rounds we agreed for two hours for either 150k per girl for two girls. Another girl at the table, a bit on the plump and old side somehow opted to come along even though I made it clear that she would get no action or money from me. I picked up the tab for the table, about 120k, and off we went. The girls chatted among themselves and asked if I wanted any cocaine. I promptly replied no. The girl then asked for 100k and in a spat of inattentiveness I just kind of handed it over as I was pressing the NFL scores on BB. The pretty faced girl comes back five minutes later with two small balls of aluminum foil and a bag of weed. I just kinda rolled my eyes as we rode back to my apartment chatting about the best clubs in Medellin.

As soon as we entered the apartment the girls savagely attacked the Baileys and began doing lines off of the Economist on my table. They prompted, almost insisted that I partake to, but I pulled a Bill Clinton and grabbed the lit up joint that the third girl out had rolled and acted like I was smoking it when I wasn’t. ***Funny thing is about Slick Willy’s proclamation that he didn’t inhale was that I totally believed him because three times in my life..once in college prior to sex, once in HS, and once in CTG…I had faked like I was smoking MJ when I have never touched the stuff before in my life***

After the Baileys had finished me and the two girls retired to my bedroom where a pretty good 20 minutes of sex ensued. The door was slightly ajar, and as I was getting serviced by the two girls the odd one out kept staring at me intensively. She didn’t abate her eyes and just sat there glaring at me while I pounded her two friends. She even had the indecency to flip me the bird as I was doing her friend doggie. I got up to get a drink after 20 minutes and the girls were magically dressed when I reentered the bedroom and watching MTV. I could do nothing but sigh as there wasn’t anything I could do about the two hours suddenly being cut by almost 70%. I had secretly popped a Viagra in LDV and feared that it would go to waste again. I went into the shower after a making sure that all my valuables were hidden and was in the mist of washing toes when the other chick came into the bathroom, pulled up her dress, and pissed. I beckoned for her to put the paper in the toilet as opposed to the waste bin as the Colombians do—gross—and returned to washing myself.

The next thing the chick was in the shower with me sucking my dick. I protested, but she flipped me off once again. I then noticed that she was actually damn good at what she was doing and we went to my bedroom where she started to toss my salad. All of a sudden she stopped went to the money that I had hidden, counted out a wad, and left the room. About 30 seconds later the other two girls burst into the room, kissed me on my cheek, and were on her way.

I returned my attention back to the no-longer-third-girl out—and she said in accented English “We begin, yes?" What followed was the best sex I had in years. My cock alternated between her moth, her ass, and her **** for the next four hours. Only once before have I rammed a girl’s ass only to have her shove it in her mouth without so much as a courtesy wipe and the sex was awesome both times.

At about 1100 we awoke and she fucked me again. At about 1300 we awoke, ordered a pizza, fucked, and ate. At 1430 I realized that I was nearly out of pesos—although she paid her friends 320k pesos from my stash—and I gave her 117 bucks, 70 Euros, and 83k Pesos and sent her on her way. She never named her price, but wasn’t surprised when I paid her what I did, only lethargically smiling and lazily saying, “ok ,ok ” while I was franticly searching for enough money to roughly equal the commensurate value of the sex I just relieved. It was almost like she was used to giving men the best fuck of their lives.

You Can
11-21-10, 21:51
Well, I agree with some of what you are saying, but the part about hard girls in LDV could not be further from the truth as far as my time there. First off I treat the girls nice, next I have always gotten gfe and none of them tried to leave before the next morning hell some of them were still sleeping in my apartment at 5 pm when I came back from the beach. I have never woke a girl up and asked her to leave. I get up early and usually wake them up and have a quickie and they fall back to sleep. I dont like Medellin, I have never heard or seen a place like LDV in Medellin where I can go in have some drinks and leisurely take a girl out, no charge , no bullshit. Just get up with my date for the night and leave. Thats how I like it. Is there a place in Medellin like that to your knowledge?
And yea Tony will try to rip off anyone he thinks he can, but I like him. Hes just a fucking nut.


CTG isn’t what it used to be—an influx of Yanks and Spaghetti eaters, the decline of the dollar, strengthening of the Colombian economy (and resultant increase in price), the commercialization of the scene and relative hardness of the chicas, and the appearance of “patrons”—read pimps—all make CTG a bit less appealing than what it was when I initially visited about nine years ago. To boot, Tony’s cocaine habit is roaring out of control (he averages 7 sniffles a minute) and his conduct is genuinely beyond the pale. He tried to charge me 80k pesos for a beer, a coke, and a water for the chica. When I corrected him on it he attempted to “lower” the price to $50. Oh, and NEVER give him your phone number, if you do he will call no less than six bazillion times in 90 minutes.

The scene revolves around the beach girls during the day that go from about 120k to 150k for a shot and the disco girls at night. There is an overlap with the girls between the two scenes but not all beach girls work the discos and vice versa. My biggest surprise was that I often saw the hottest girls serving three different men during the course of a few hours at night. Contrary to my expectations, the girls were mostly interesting in hooking a john, doing the deed for 15-35 minutes, and getting out the door to collect the next one. There is also a new bar called Easy which is run by an American which has a business model which I can’t quite comprehend: It’s a gilry bar with girls that are generally less prettier than the LDV girls but the price is a about 100k pesos more; pay more and get less ***The bar is owned by an American who also owns the strip club in town. Frankly I am surprised that this fellow hasn’t been put out of business yet since the American govt does not look kindly upon Yanks abroad involved in the flesh trade.***

The talent level and service at LDV has certainly declined although there are still some 7’s about an occasional eight to be seen. The price is usually 150k per pop and ~250k for all night, which normally means that after one pop the girl will start to whine, talk on her phone, at which time an argument will ensue which will result in you paying 200k for one pop and an argument. That being said, the uglier the girl is the more likely she will negotiate on her price and keep her word on the length of time that she agreed to stay. After the LDV closes the girl end up in Elektra, a late night disco, where the price may go down a bit, but it’s still one shot and out the door.

***More on this in a different post, but if you are willing to fund party favors for the girls the sex will be much better and they will stay longer; however, I’m generally a very risk averse person and not comfortable with illegal drugs in foreign lands being in my proximity***

CTG is a hot and dirty shithole that’s no longer a great value—food is relatively expensive too. The hookers there are all from other cities and charge too much for what they deliver. The indigenous women of CTG are normally of the shortish, fatish, and darkish variety which don’t do a whole lot for me. I tried the marriage agency thing and was surprised at the number of men that marry women who they don’t share a common tongue with: “What do you mean sir? We only have a few girls that speak a little bit of English…but most of our guys don’t speak Spanish and they still have a successful relationship. “ No wonder why so many of these mail order bride deals end in disaster. One thing which amused me was the career rounding up that occurred: a dental hygienist is advertised as a dentist, a notary public as a lawyer, and the unemployed and hookers as students. It doesn’t really matter, but it further buttresses my observations that the average Americans who goes to a marriage agency has no idea in hell what who he is getting involved with.

I won’t be returning to CTG anytime soon, BOG and MDE are much better places with prettier gals at cheaper prices.

DirkDingy
11-22-10, 01:39
Well, I agree with some of what you are saying, but the part about hard girls in LDV could not be further from the truth as far as my time there. First off I treat the girls nice, next I have always gotten gfe and none of them tried to leave before the next morning hell some of them were still sleeping in my apartment at 5 pm when I came back from the beach. I have never woke a girl up and asked her to leave. I get up early and usually wake them up and have a quickie and they fall back to sleep. I dont like Medellin, I have never heard or seen a place like LDV in Medellin where I can go in have some drinks and leisurely take a girl out, no charge , no bullshit. Just get up with my date for the night and leave. Thats how I like it. Is there a place in Medellin like that to your knowledge?
And yea Tony will try to rip off anyone he thinks he can, but I like him. Hes just a fucking nut.

Hi,

Of course one's mileage may vary. I found that frequent visitors with Spainish ability tend to report more initimate experiences. I have also found that if one pays a chick more she will stay longer or if she is not among the hotttest chicks in the area she will stay longer. But for newbies I think it's a bit different.
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Originally Posted by You Can:

This was a good report. Only thing I disagree with is the comment about bbbj not common. I have been there many times, and have maybe had one girl in many try to use a condom for bj and once I told her nicely to be on her way, she went for it. Other then that I enjoyed your report. If you treat the girls nice it goes a long way.

Originally Posted by You Can:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uzinuzin
Here is a summary of my general impression of our favourite activity in CTG. Bear in mind that this was my first trip to Colombia, so bear that in mind when reading.


Now the prices. At LDV they start with 400k or 300k, quickly down to 200k. If you haggle they do you for 150k at night, but that would be a rush job - 30min max, very mechanical but they do all the standard stuff (BBBJ is not very common, one refused it no matter what I said - I am very good at negotiating and persuading, but not this one ... !?)
______________________________________________

It's a business--normally quite pleasant-transaction with these girls. They are there to make money for themselves and their families for the few weeks they opt to hook each year. It's logical that most would choose to make 450K in one night from multiple clients as opposed to 150k in one night from one client. But I can certainly understand if they drop their guard a bit with someone they feel confortable with.

You are right: MDE lacks a free lance bar akin to LDV, Tequila Rocks, or Havanas in Panama. The p4p there is of a different variety-strip clubs, casas, and to a lesser extent escorts.

Caliguy 2010
11-22-10, 23:36
I agree with Youcan, I think. Everyone is quoting everyone so I can't keep track. I went to CTG a little over a year ago. I did not visit LDV, because at that time I did not know about this forum. I did however go to Tu Candela. I can say that girls there at that club were not hard at all. Although I was there maybe about 2 hours I was able to pull 2 7's for 150k. I posted my story in MDE section by accident but I will re post here as well. Now the thing is I speak fluent spanish but born in the US. My parents are from Mexico, and having been to Tijuana a bunch of times my haggling is not bad. My age is early 30's, and in fairly good shape. The main thing I think is that you can't appear to be looking very hard or borderline desperate. These girls will see that in you and set a price bar very high. I came across these girls casually as I was getting a round of beers for a group of friends that I met on the Chiva party bus. So I think I appeared not looking as obviously I was with a group of guys and girls. So as these 2 chicas approached me I declined to pay the first 2 prices and started to walk away it wasn't until the 3rd price was thrown out there that I snatched it up and took advantage of it.


Hi,

Of course one's mileage may vary. I found that frequent visitors with Spainish ability tend to report more initimate experiences. I have also found that if one pays a chick more she will stay longer or if she is not among the hotttest chicks in the area she will stay longer. But for newbies I think it's a bit different.
________________________________________________________________
Originally Posted by You Can:

This was a good report. Only thing I disagree with is the comment about bbbj not common. I have been there many times, and have maybe had one girl in many try to use a condom for bj and once I told her nicely to be on her way, she went for it. Other then that I enjoyed your report. If you treat the girls nice it goes a long way.

Originally Posted by You Can:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uzinuzin
Here is a summary of my general impression of our favourite activity in CTG. Bear in mind that this was my first trip to Colombia, so bear that in mind when reading.


Now the prices. At LDV they start with 400k or 300k, quickly down to 200k. If you haggle they do you for 150k at night, but that would be a rush job - 30min max, very mechanical but they do all the standard stuff (BBBJ is not very common, one refused it no matter what I said - I am very good at negotiating and persuading, but not this one ... !?)
______________________________________________

It's a business--normally quite pleasant-transaction with these girls. They are there to make money for themselves and their families for the few weeks they opt to hook each year. It's logical that most would choose to make 450K in one night from multiple clients as opposed to 150k in one night from one client. But I can certainly understand if they drop their guard a bit with someone they feel confortable with.

You are right: MDE lacks a free lance bar akin to LDV, Tequila Rocks, or Havanas in Panama. The p4p there is of a different variety-strip clubs, casas, and to a lesser extent escorts.

Caliguy 2010
11-23-10, 00:02
I was in Ctg at Tu Candela. I was at the bar asking for a round of Heinikens beautiful chick comes up to me starts talking blah blah blah. You know all the normal questions they always ask. So I ask. So what are your plans tonight? Because here in the states that is sort of normal conversation at a bar or nightclub. Right? She replies well. I am working. Very discretely. Which was cool with me I didn't feel the need to put her business out there. Besides she was I would say solid 7, great body not a model face but very cute barrio type I guess and just very affectionate. That was my Q. So I said about how much would this costs me? She says for you looks me up and down like she is buying a used car and says 80k. I said hmmm you know what I am really looking for is a threesome. I think I may pass. Started to grab the beers and head back. I noticed she was with another girl there and started to make signs and calling over the other girl. I was cool at the bar just waiting I honestly was not expecting to take them both back. All of a sudden the other beautiful chica comes up and she says What do you think about the 2 of us? Is this what you are looking for. I could not help but smile a little bit. I have a great poker face but come on there is only so much a guy can take. So I said look the thing is I only have 150 k. Can you guys split that. Now at this point I had agreed for 2 hours since there was no way they would stay for the entire night at that price I figured maybe still early enough I can head back out and pick me up another one for 60-70k for the rest of the night. Or I figured I could always ask one to stay the remainder of the night and pay the taxi for the other one. They said yes I paid the bar tab got the hell back to the apt. Now being from California Tequila is my drink of chice and then also Johnny Walker so I brought to CTG 4 bottles 3 tequila and 1 johnny. I did this because it is so much cheaper in the states than CTG. Besides that, good Tequila is not found in CTG. That automatically got the part y started I started to tell them about some of my favorite drinks blah blah blah. I made them drinks and took shots, I watered theirs down since they are not used to it it was a fun party atmosphere. Then once we are all liquored up we start to kiss each other they kiss I take turns. The rest is history as they say amigos. Best time of my life long story short. In the morning they got me up in both ways. Made breakfast! Since I had gone to the grocery store when I arrived and bought all the food I needed for through out the day and only spent money on food at night. And left around 10-11am or so.

Moral of the story is you have to learn spanish and not be lazy, otherwise you will be seen as an Atm, Gringo fool or a sucker. Believe me these girls are after 2 things money and a visa. Now looking for a wife is another thing and I myself plan on one day marrying a Colombian, but that requires a lot more research and believe me you will not find her a Tu candela or LDV or the beach. I for one would not go to Germany or Europe and not learn the language first! Waste of time. Guys learn the language, spanish is one of the wasiest languages to speak!


Hi,

Of course one's mileage may vary. I found that frequent visitors with Spainish ability tend to report more initimate experiences. I have also found that if one pays a chick more she will stay longer or if she is not among the hotttest chicks in the area she will stay longer. But for newbies I think it's a bit different.

________________________________________________________________

Originally Posted by You Can:

This was a good report. Only thing I disagree with is the comment about BBBJ not common. I have been there many times, and have maybe had one girl in many try to use a condom for BJ and once I told her nicely to be on her way, she went for it. Other then that I enjoyed your report. If you treat the girls nice it goes a long way.

Originally Posted by You Can:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uzinuzin

Here is a summary of my general impression of our favourite activity in CTG. Bear in mind that this was my first trip to Colombia, so bear that in mind when reading.

Now the prices. At LDV they start with 400k or 300k, quickly down to 200k. If you haggle they do you for 150k at night, but that would be a rush job. 30min max, very mechanical but they do all the standard stuff (BBBJ is not very common, one refused it no matter what I said. I am very good at negotiating and persuading, but not this one.!)

______________________________________________

It's a business-normally quite pleasant-transaction with these girls. They are there to make money for themselves and their families for the few weeks they opt to hook each year. It's logical that most would choose to make 450K in one night from multiple clients as opposed to 150k in one night from one client. But I can certainly understand if they drop their guard a bit with someone they feel confortable with.

You are right: MDE lacks a free lance bar akin to LDV, Tequila Rocks, or Havanas in Panama. The p4p there is of a different variety-strip clubs, casas, and to a lesser extent escorts.

Tomasb
11-26-10, 17:49
One reads a lot on ISG about guys paying too much and letting the little head do all the thinking so here is one story where 'I took one for the team'.

I have been traveling in Colombia for a few weeks and as I began my trip in CTG, I will be here for the remainder of my trip.

At the beginning of my trip, I met a super hot black chica from Barranquilla near Donde Fidel and called her a few days ago upon my return. Her name is Jacqueline and she told me she is living in a hotel somewhere in CTG though have no idea where that hotel might be located.

We ended up at Tu Candela where we had the normal round of drinks and dancing where I tried to establish some GFE but eventually she told me that she was 'working' -- no surprise on that comment. She wanted $200COP for an hour and I countered with $150 TLN (it was 3am) but she would not budge. So I said goodbye and left. There still seemed to be a few single guys in there so maybe she thought that she could still get her price.

I texted her the next night and asked about her price to come to my hotel for two hours. Her price for this visit was $250COP plus she wanted me to pay for her taxi by leaving $$ at the reception desk. She said she likes to kiss but we did not discuss other details of her services. I finally decided to blow it off by texting her that I was cancelling. When you add up the total cost with the USD conversion rate, it would end up around $150USD. We did not discuss this but she probably wanted me to pay her taxi afterwards as well (even though she would probably stick around El Centro anyway).

So, is that the price one can expect these days in CTG or the exception? The girl is a at least an '8' or a '9'.

PS: On my earlier visit to CTG, I paid a Cali girl from ELEKTRA $150COP for TLN and though she was not in this chica's look category, I had a very good time with the Elektra girl.

PS2: Also, I went over to Playa Blanca yesterday and checked out the 'lodging situtation'. Mainly hammocks and tents available but there is a guy named Hugo who has some very rustic cabins, tents, and hammocks for rent. I asked him if there were any girls around and he asked what I wanted. When his buddy mentioned he had access to blonds, I said yes, get me a blond. So the guy says he can get me a blond but I have to pay $150COP for her autobus from MDE. This guy was serious. I said half the chicas in CTG are from MDE, get me one of those instead. lol!

Ricker
11-27-10, 01:55
... At the beginning of my trip, I met a super hot black chica from Barranquilla ...

... I texted her the next night and asked about her price to come to my hotel for two hours. Her price for this visit was $250COP plus she wanted me to pay for her taxi by leaving $$ at the reception desk. She said she likes to kiss but we did not discuss other details of her services.

... I finally decided to blow it off by texting her that I was cancelling. So, is that the price one can expect these days in CTG or the exception? ...



Good thinking amigo, I would've dumped her too.

When chicas start charging like that and making demands and not discussing their services, etc, they usually end up being pretty crappy company anyway.

There are plenty of chicas that you can bond with and pay normal rates, and have a great time.

Good rule to follow ... bad vibe, let her go, follow your instincts.

Zing23
11-27-10, 02:38
This is kind of a specialized report. I live near St Maarten in the Caribbean so most of my experience is in the clubs there,with colombianas. I have been to Colombia 10 times and this is my third visit to Cartagena, but my first visit to LDV. I was staying at the Hotel Dann, across the street.

Hit the bar about 130am because I took a nap and overslept. Girls clear out about 230pm. Music is a mix, loud but not too loud. There were lots of girls and only a few guys (mid week, late). The girls are better looking on average than the girls that come to St Maarten. Prices in St Maarten are standard, $50 for half an hour, perhaps $40.

First I walked around and got a beer. Then I talked to a tall black girl, very attractive, from Medellin (lots of the girls were frrom Medellin). She was dressed discretely, in retrospect I should have just stuck with her, since it was getting near to closing time. But I spotted a familiiar blonde a few tables away and went over to say hello. I had sessioned with her once a year ago in St Maarten, nothing super memorable for me, but she remembered my massage and gift of a music CD. Then I talked to a couple of other hot young girls.

Then a slim tall black girl, somewhat hardlooking, motioned me over. I bought drinks for her and her 2 friends, all from Cartagena. 10k per drink.
We danced a bit and talked, they wanted me to take them to Eledktra. I spent about 15 minutes with them, talking, dancing, seeing what a kiss would be like. The first girl was the best dancer and most sexy, but the short, lighter, girl next store girl gave me a nice full kiss right n the bar. So as people started to clear out, I said I wasnt interetwed in Electra and headed outside
where I talked to 3 girls from Cali and one from ?

Eventually my girls came out, one at a time, the girl next door took my arm and gave me another kiss. She said what are we going to do, I said lets go across the street to my hotel. No discussion of price.

Hotel took her cedula while she was in my suite, charged me 45k pesos for a visitor. We had a good 2 hours, including bbbj lots of talk, great french kissing, not so great CFS. I gave her 150k and got her numbers, gave her 10k for taxi, and she left.

Next day the hotel charged me 90k for a small bottle of whiskey which i did not drink. She either slipped it in her purse (all other valuables where in the safe) or the hotel made a mistake. She denied it when she phoned me.

Then I took a minibuss to Baq.

LDV was interesting. The drinks in St Maarten only cost $2 and the price o9f the girl is about the same, although TLN can probably be had cheaper at LDV since there is no bar fine. In St Maarten you normally session in the girls room, so the only things you worry about losing are those in your pants, and that is VERY rare, since the girls are in a foreign country and vulnerable.

Hope that helps

-zing

Ricker
11-27-10, 15:22
Thanks for the report and comparison Zing!

I dig St Maarten too.
Don't know if it's still around, but I used to stay at the little motel that was attached to the club Kappers, I believe was it's name.

Anyway I like LDV for the availability to meet chicas and if you can meet and click with one, get pretty good deal on LT GFE without paying ridiculous bar fines.

BTWay, think I had the best lay of my life in Campo Alegre in Curacao. The famous Michelle from Cali.
She was a 10 in looks, personality, skill and performance.

Good times amigos ....

Cartaman
11-30-10, 00:14
If anyone is coming to Cartagena, and would like make some money bringing me down a laptop please contact Juan Ventura. I want a laptop from Best Buy in the United States or Canada. I will pay for it in US dollars the moment you arrive plus a fee for the help.

KellySlater
12-01-10, 00:35
Team,

I have a chance to go to Cartagena over new years but I am unsure.

I know it is not the best time and maybe even sucks compared to most other times of year but this is the only time I can go so,.

What should I expect? I know everything will be more $ but will the scene be lively at least? My dates are dec 26 until Jan 2.

Also my Spanish is weak. Will Portuguese be better or english?

I will learn some more spanish but just curious.

Great info on the forum thanks for the details I have learned a lot.

Ricker
12-01-10, 15:34
Team,

I have a chance to go to Cartagena over new years but I am unsure.

I know it is not the best time and maybe even sucks compared to most other times of year but this is the only time I can go so,.

What should I expect? I know everything will be more $ but will the scene be lively at least? My dates are dec 26 until Jan 2.

Also my Spanish is weak. Will Portuguese be better or english?

I will learn some more spanish but just curious.

Great info on the forum thanks for the details I have learned a lot.

Most likely a bit slow at that time of year.
Lots of the visiting working chicas go to be with family at that time.

Portuguese is like a sexy sounding spanish.
The chicas will understand a bit if you speak slowly, and you'll understand quite a bit of their spanish.
Tell the chicas you're from Brazil .. they dig it.

I speak both languages, for me spanish is much easier, easier pronounciation.

Have fun!!

Hilltopper
12-01-10, 16:03
Most likely a bit slow at that time of year.
Lots of the visiting working chicas go to be with family at that time.....



Never been there during Christmas or New Year's, but would think what Ricker says above is spot on.

Would be interested as well in hearing from someone who has actually been in Cartagena during Christmas week. Does LDV stay open through the 23rd or 24th? How about the 26th? Do some Cartagenaras still mingle in Playa Hollywood working on the days leading up to the 25th? Ever slip away to the apartamento with a chica from the beach who is there during Christmas week with her family? Or will a guy have to have Tony start calling local chicas from his cell phone contact list?

May be only slim pickings, but I'm guessing there are some opportunities at Playa Hollywood or through Tony, and if LDV is still open. I'm curious to know from anyone who has been there from say Dec. 21 through the end of the year.

Golfinho
12-01-10, 16:42
May be only slim pickings, but I'm guessing there are some opportunities at Playa Hollywood or through Tony, and if LDV is still open. I'm curious to know from anyone who has been there from say Dec. 21 through the end of the year.In 2008, I flew out of CTG on dawn flight morning of 24th. Previous night in LDV was dead: one Cali chica trying to make transportation fare home, two every night regulars, and very scant flotsam room filler. The entire week before, LDV had been becoming more and more empty with each passing night. Plus side was minimal competition. Have been wondering when the girls start perculating back into the place after Christmas. For New Years, Juan Ventura's places a are pretty booked -- and at higher rates -- for anyone contemplating being there for Eve 2011.

Ricker
12-01-10, 17:19
I spent Christmas one year in Cali.
Was fantastic the week leading to Christmas.
Was OK after Christmas, heading to New Years Celebration.
Great private parties on New Years eve.
From the new years day for about a week ... dead.

Hilltopper
12-01-10, 18:33
Golfinho and Ricker, thanks for the feedback---much appreciated. Kinda what I figured, but it's always best to get the input from guys who've actually been there during that timeframe.

I did a search of this thread on the word "Christmas" and did find one report from Reefski. Looks like he did find a little action on the beach during Christmas week. Maybe Reefski is still around and will expand on his report from Dec. 2008.

Reef, you out there?

Hj Mac
12-01-10, 23:07
Yoah All, I'll be helping out the poor Colombian women and the economy in CTG this weekend. I'll be stayting at one of Jaun Place by LDV.

I'm hosting a couple of guys. I was at Tu Candela last time in Cartagena and found it interesting the Non pro and pro mix.

I wanted to show them a couple places with a non pro mix before we hit La Dolce Vida. Any suggestions?

KellySlater
12-02-10, 01:58
Thanks hilltop, ricker, golf!

We will C. I understand the theory that many go home for the holidays but I am thinking that this is one of the busiest tourist seasons for them, so I can't imagine them missing the opportunity for a good ratio which means good business for them. I am hoping at the very least 29, 30, 31 December the whole city must be in party mode.

But we will see how business focused they are.

LocoGringo
12-02-10, 02:07
I have been in Cartagena nearly every year for New Years and some for Christmas over the last 8 years. Many chicas from casas in Medellin and Cali are recruited by agencies to work in Cartagena in December, most leaving with our dinero the week before Christmas. Funny how a 30,000 peso casa chica is working at a high end casa (200-350,000 for the night in Cartagena) during that time. They also get bored waiting for action and are looking for daytime tricks on the beach.

There are always the Cartagena girls available on the playa, yeah Hollywood too. Action is slow for a few days after Christmas but picks up around the 28th of 29th. New Years in Cartagena is the busiest time of the year, also the most expensive. Apartments and hotels are 1 1/2 to 3x what they usually charge, biggest days are Dec 29 to January 16 this year. For New Years get a chica that is fun and try Santa Domingo Plaza, you will need a reservation at one of the restaurants there, about $100 per person. Area is partitioned off with the loudest band available, but a great time to be there. Tables for dinner in all the streets close to the Plazas.

La Dolce picks up during New Years but you really need to have one tied up imho. Unless tings changed in the last 2 weeks La Perla Casino has been closed down and La Dolce stands alone. This time of year the weather si great historically but this year the rains keep coming. I am told it has rained most days including today recently.

There will always be quality chicas there if you look. Mant drunk teens fr4on other areas of Colombia but they are not so notibabe at some of the "closed" parties for New Years in nthe old city.

Hilltopper
12-02-10, 15:50
Yoah All, I'll be helping out the poor Colombian women and the economy in CTG this weekend. I'll be stayting at one of Jaun Place by LDV.

I'm hosting a couple of guys. I was at Tu Candela last time in Cartagena and found it interesting the Non pro and pro mix.

I wanted to show them a couple places with a non pro mix before we hit La Dolce Vida. Any suggestions?


Here's a copy-n-paste from World Traveler's list on the Cartagena List thread (may need updated a little). Go check out his list on that thread, I think it is on the 2nd or 3rd to newest page of that thread (thanks again to World Traveler for his lists). I'd think Babar, Tu Candela and those along Calle del Arsenal probably deserve a "look-see":


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Bars and Discos Non Pro Only.

Bocagrande

1. La Luz Disco Club, Carrera 1 # 6-154, 1st. Piso, Hotel Cartagena Plaza. __ Chicas. Prices: ____. Tel: (57 5) 665 4000, 665 4104, 665 4300. Hours: 8pm to __.

2. Hotel El Dorado, (Disco), Av. San Martin #4-41, Bocagrande. Hours: ___.

3. Bar Bareke, Calle 8 #2-24. __ Chicas. Prices: ____. Tel: 57-5-655 1956. Hours: ___.


El Centro

1. Joy Slava Club, Playa de La Artilleria # 36-86, across from the Wall, near Calle Baloco. Prices: ____. Tel: 660-2164. Hours: Friday to Sunday. 9pm to 4am.

2. Babar, Calle San Juan de Dios and Calle Antonio Ricaurte. Prices: Cover 10k, Beer 8k. Tel: 57-5-664-4083. Hours: 8pm to 4am.


Getsemani Non Pro Only.

1. "Quiebra Canto Bar", Salsa, Cafe Galleria, Carrera 8B # 25-110, Piso 2, L-201, Edificio Puerta Del Sol, overlooking the Parque del Centenario. Prices: ____. Tel: 664-1372. Hours: 8pm to 4am.
www.quiebracanto.com

2. Mister Babilla (disco), Calle 24 # 8B-137, near Calle del Arsenal. Prices: Cover 10k on weekends, Drinks around 14k, Chicas ___. Tel: +57 5 664 8616, +57 5 664 7005. Hours: 11pm to 5am.

3. Qk-Yito Lounge (disco), Calle del Arsenal #10-13 (Calle de Rumba). Prices: ____. Tel: ___. Hours: 8pm to 4am.

4. Baluma, Calle de Arsenal # 10-39. Tel: 664-0607. Hours: __.

5. La Cabonera, Calle 24 # 9a-47, and Calle del Arsenal. Prices: ____. Tel: 664-3720. Hours: ___.

6. Maracaná, Calle del Arsenal. Prices: ____. Hours: __.

7. Café Restuarante Havana, Calle Media Luna con Calle del Guerrero. Tel: 57 315 6902566. info@cafehavanacartagena.com http://www.cafehavanacartagena.com/


La Manga

1. Ritmo Minitk, Carrera 21A # 5-96 Cj Ferrer. Prices: ____. Tel.: 660 4221. Hours: ___.


Chambacu Not a Safe Area!

1. Karamba Bar-Disco, Avenida Pedro de Heredia # 62-30. Prices: ____. Tel: (57 5) 663 1532 or 651-3912. Hours: ___.

2. Salsoteca Siguaraya, Avenida Pedro de Heredia # 65A 47, In front of the Villa Sandra. Prices: ____. Tel: 663 1800. Hours: ___.


La Castellana

1. Extreme Bar-Discoteca Restaurante, El Rubi, Calle 31 # 64-100 Piso 2 Level 248, C.C. Paseo de La Castellana. Prices: ____. Tel: (57 5) 653 2781 - 653 2651, Tel/Fax: 660 0011. Hours: ___.


San Pedro

1. Bururum-Barara Cafe-Bar, San Pedro Manz 1 Lt 16. Prices: ____. Tel: (57 5) 663 1518. Hours: ___.

Travel Doc10
12-04-10, 20:23
Hi. I want to thank you all for your info. It made planning very easy. A little background, this is my 1st time to Colombia, I have been to brazil(2x), Peru and Costa Rica and Mexico City. So I think I can speak from a little experience.

I used Juan for an apt., I recommend him highly, he delivered as promised, was available whenever a problem arose, the apt. Was excellent, oceanfront, wall of windows with a bueatiful sunset every nite. Flat screen tv in living room. I am probalbly going back in feb. And hope to get the same place. All the girls loved it when they saw it.

LDV, I loved this place. Obviously for those who have been to brazil, this cannot compare to help in size, but I personally, IMHO, found the percentage of quality women, signifigantly better. And it had a great energy/vibe. Much better than T. R. In Lima, again, IMHO.

The beach scene, was like a mini version of copacabana, the beach quality is not as nice or big. But had a similiar energy, everything was available. Food, drink, and girls. Tony #1 is as described. Very helpful and an a**hole. He truly could deliver on anything you wanted. Blanca and flaca, no problem. He was on his phone and 15 minutes later she arrived, and he didnot dissappoint he had great quality. And if it didn't suit you, he would get another. Personally I preferred the afternoon session with the beach girls to LDV night sessions, if you had a good connection. It just seemed more relaxed, not as hardcore. Plus, the beach girls were younger on average.

I always find that I go all out the first few days as far as the sex goes, then I become more interested in the overall party scene, with some sex mixed in. Met some really fun girls, and a few americans, hooked up with a really crazy chica that I had a great connection with and spent the last 3 days/nights together. Lots of fun, took my out to centro for drinks/ dinner one night and to tu candela(sp?) another, great time. Was helpful for translating etc. For this it is important to get a girl who can speak some english as my spanish is poco. No matter how great the physical connection if they don't speak any english it is had to be with them other than short time.

Well, to sum it up it was great, much cheaper than brazil currently, and I'm already planning a return trip in feb., thanks again for all your help, Doc.

Tomasb
12-06-10, 04:04
This is probably my final report on CTG though hopefully not Colombia. I left CTG last Tuesday morning and was frankly fairly bored with the city by that time. For my last night, I thought that it would be a good idea to check out LDV. I had been there on a prior trip in August and did not have a great experience with a blond cheerleader type from MDE who also spoke quite good English as she had just completed an English class in MDE. However, the girls at LDV overall are quite stunning.

As I noted in prior reports on Elektra, there appears to be some sort of unofficial union with the girls based on the consistent price levels and lack of flexibility thereof. I did have a great time with a black girl from Cali I met in Elektra who actually asked me what I wanted to pay for TLN. I offered $150K, she accepted and was up for anything and as many times as I could get Mr. Happy to perform.

When I went to LDV there were quite a few outstanding looking girls along with the regular motley crew I had seen in Elektra. The first girl I chatted with from Manizales was a cute blond but she tried to pawn off her gordita friend from Barranquilla on me. No dice. The cute blond had another customer so that was a no go. The gordita probably would have provided the best service but was too chubby for my liking. No price discussed so I moved on to an attractive quite pretty dark haired girl from MDE. Non-pro look which I like. Once again as in similar experiences in Elektra, she wanted $250k for 2 hours and would not budge on the price. She said that this price was inexpensive though easy for her to say. Maybe she should sell used cars some day.

After that, I spoke to another dark haired girl from MDE with that interesting skin color some girls from MDE have. She claimed to be a university student from MDE and said she was only in CTG for several days. Her family and friends think she is on vacation. Once again, she wanted $250k for two hours. After an awkward silence as I waited for her to bring her price down, she instead did an about face and headed back into the disco. I kind of regret throwing that one back into the pond as she was pretty hot but don't want to pay that kind of $$. I guess that I was spoiled by the Cali girl.

Shortly thereafter, another MDE chica came over. She wanted $250k but quickly moved to $200 for two hours. I was a bit superstitious of her aggressive approach, which proved to be a cautionary tale once again. After getting in the taxi, she first wanted to stop at a drug store for aspirin. She paid for it but it was kind of annoying way to start our 'relationship'. Then she wanted an arepa, which I paid for and finally we headed back to my room at El Centro having to pay the taxi guy extra for all the additional driving. Once in the room, she insisted I take a shower and I thought she would join me. Instead she stood there watching me (she was naked too) but would not get in the shower with me but instead kept looking at Mr. (Not) so Happy and insisted that I use the soap freely. Frankly, I felt like I was with my mom. We finally got down to business where she reluctantly accepted DATY and then wanted it doggie style. To make a long story short she was an absolute suck lay. Finally, to add insult to injury she limited me too only one time. Given the first experience, I did not protest too much. Sorry guys, but as I told her, I forgot to ask how many times for the two hours. Classic mistake.

After that, she hung around for a while giving me lame GFE. Is anything worse? And then she started to bring up taxi money. Taxi money I said? I told her that I never said that I would pay you for taxi money and I guess you forgot to ask if that was included (lol). With that I gave her the $200k and the boot.

In retrospect, its more or less just luck sometimes if you have a good time with the girl. I expected the Cali chick too be only so-so, yet she turned out to be the best one from my trip. To paraphrase Forrest, mongering is like a box of chocolates. Maybe I should go direct to Cali for my next trip though concerned about the reputed heat/climate? Any opinions out there about all that...

Travel Doc10
12-06-10, 14:10
Yes, I found I was unable to signifigantly get the girls off of their asking prices, if that was the case it is better to just walk away. I paid at nite, in ldv, anywhere from 200 to 250k, usually closer to 250, this was for 2hours, which you had to specify ahead of time, or they would try to leave earlier. The last one did stay all night and tru the day. The beach girls I would pay 150k and insist on 2 hours. No problem. And again, they tended to be less mechanical, more GFE, more relaxed. I actually prefered to play in the late afternoon, then go party at nite.

You Can
12-07-10, 00:36
This was a great report, but I cant help adding my 2cents. I have only had 1 or 2 bad experiences with Cartagena, which is nothing compared to all the women I have had there. I just cant get into all that negotiating, it ruins the mood and I believe for the girl to. I buy the bottles of liquor freely, ask the girl if she wants to go get something to eat and just ease into everything. It kinda of comes natural. I have never paid more then 200,000 and thats for all night. I never even wake then up in the morning, I leave them there sleeping. Usually they will join me on the beach. If I had to talk about all that how many pops, how much, when you leaving, that would kill it for me and I am sure it does for some of the girls you are talking to.



This is probably my final report on CTG though hopefully not Colombia. I left CTG last Tuesday morning and was frankly fairly bored with the city by that time. For my last night, I thought that it would be a good idea to check out LDV. I had been there on a prior trip in August and did not have a great experience with a blond cheerleader type from MDE who also spoke quite good English as she had just completed an English class in MDE. However, the girls at LDV overall are quite stunning.

As I noted in prior reports on Elektra, there appears to be some sort of unofficial union with the girls based on the consistent price levels and lack of flexibility thereof. I did have a great time with a black girl from Cali I met in Elektra who actually asked me what I wanted to pay for TLN. I offered $150K, she accepted and was up for anything and as many times as I could get Mr. Happy to perform.

When I went to LDV there were quite a few outstanding looking girls along with the regular motley crew I had seen in Elektra. The first girl I chatted with from Manizales was a cute blond but she tried to pawn off her gordita friend from Barranquilla on me. No dice. The cute blond had another customer so that was a no go. The gordita probably would have provided the best service but was too chubby for my liking. No price discussed so I moved on to an attractive quite pretty dark haired girl from MDE. Non-pro look which I like. Once again as in similar experiences in Elektra, she wanted $250k for 2 hours and would not budge on the price. She said that this price was inexpensive though easy for her to say. Maybe she should sell used cars some day.

After that, I spoke to another dark haired girl from MDE with that interesting skin color some girls from MDE have. She claimed to be a university student from MDE and said she was only in CTG for several days. Her family and friends think she is on vacation. Once again, she wanted $250k for two hours. After an awkward silence as I waited for her to bring her price down, she instead did an about face and headed back into the disco. I kind of regret throwing that one back into the pond as she was pretty hot but don't want to pay that kind of $$. I guess that I was spoiled by the Cali girl.

Shortly thereafter, another MDE chica came over. She wanted $250k but quickly moved to $200 for two hours. I was a bit superstitious of her aggressive approach, which proved to be a cautionary tale once again. After getting in the taxi, she first wanted to stop at a drug store for aspirin. She paid for it but it was kind of annoying way to start our 'relationship'. Then she wanted an arepa, which I paid for and finally we headed back to my room at El Centro having to pay the taxi guy extra for all the additional driving. Once in the room, she insisted I take a shower and I thought she would join me. Instead she stood there watching me (she was naked too) but would not get in the shower with me but instead kept looking at Mr. (Not) so Happy and insisted that I use the soap freely. Frankly, I felt like I was with my mom. We finally got down to business where she reluctantly accepted DATY and then wanted it doggie style. To make a long story short she was an absolute suck lay. Finally, to add insult to injury she limited me too only one time. Given the first experience, I did not protest too much. Sorry guys, but as I told her, I forgot to ask how many times for the two hours. Classic mistake.

After that, she hung around for a while giving me lame GFE. Is anything worse? And then she started to bring up taxi money. Taxi money I said? I told her that I never said that I would pay you for taxi money and I guess you forgot to ask if that was included (lol). With that I gave her the $200k and the boot.

In retrospect, its more or less just luck sometimes if you have a good time with the girl. I expected the Cali chick too be only so-so, yet she turned out to be the best one from my trip. To paraphrase Forrest, mongering is like a box of chocolates. Maybe I should go direct to Cali for my next trip though concerned about the reputed heat/climate? Any opinions out there about all that...

Blago
12-07-10, 02:12
Juan ran out of 1 BR apartments. I found an apartment for rent on hotels.com called Sunny Isles located in Bocagrande Cr K 2 04-132. I found nothing here with the search engine and wondered if anyone here know if it's guest friendly or not. From the map it looks reasonably close to LDV.

Thanks.

Cachorro
12-07-10, 04:54
Here's something I posted in the past about LDV. Suits your situation so I'll copy and paste it here.

Being pitched 500k is easily avoidable. Simply don't ask how much they want. It's an invitation that you may not know the usual prices, and they should try and gouge you.

Instead, tell them what you want to pay.

Establish a rapport with the girl first (drinks, dancing, chat). Then give her an offer about what you want to do: "I would like you to come with me to my apartment in Laguito. I have some drinks back at my place (rum, vodka.) or you can smoke a joint. I want you to stay about an hour and a half. I am offering 150k pesos and will also pay your taxi after you leave my place. I'm a calm and relaxed person and will make sure you're comfortable with me".

Something like the above (alter it to suit your circumstances). I sometimes pull them out of LDV a bit earlier, then offer to escort them to the door of Elektra after we're done. Make the offer attractive to the girl and she will more likely say yes.

Now if the guy happens to be an unattractive person, maybe that explains getting way higher quotes. Girls won't say no outright, they'll just quote a high rate. If you suspect this, find someone who understands colombianas and ask them if you're giving off bad vibes.


As I noted in prior reports on Elektra, there appears to be some sort of unofficial union with the girls based on the consistent price levels and lack of flexibility thereof. I did have a great time with a black girl from Cali I met in Elektra who actually asked me what I wanted to pay for TLN. I offered $150K, she accepted and was up for anything and as many times as I could get Mr. Happy to perform.

When I went to LDV there were quite a few outstanding looking girls along with the regular motley crew I had seen in Elektra. The first girl I chatted with from Manizales was a cute blond but she tried to pawn off her gordita friend from Barranquilla on me. No dice. The cute blond had another customer so that was a no go. The gordita probably would have provided the best service but was too chubby for my liking. No price discussed so I moved on to an attractive quite pretty dark haired girl from MDE. Non-pro look which I like. Once again as in similar experiences in Elektra, she wanted $250k for 2 hours and would not budge on the price. She said that this price was inexpensive though easy for her to say. Maybe she should sell used cars some day.

After that, I spoke to another dark haired girl from MDE with that interesting skin color some girls from MDE have. She claimed to be a university student from MDE and said she was only in CTG for several days. Her family and friends think she is on vacation. Once again, she wanted $250k for two hours. After an awkward silence as I waited for her to bring her price down, she instead did an about face and headed back into the disco. I kind of regret throwing that one back into the pond as she was pretty hot but don't want to pay that kind of $$. I guess that I was spoiled by the Cali girl.

Hilltopper
12-07-10, 09:28
Juan ran out of 1 BR apartments. I found an apartment for rent on hotels.com called Sunny Isles located in Bocagrande Cr K 2 04-132. I found nothing here with the search engine and wondered if anyone here know if it's guest friendly or not. From the map it looks reasonably close to LDV.

Thanks.

Blago, can't say that I've ever heard of Sunny Isles. Sounds like a retirement trailer park in FL.

Did you check with Mery Salence for an apt.? Did Juan have any 2 bdrms available (he'll rent to one person for a rate less than two people while locking the door to one of the bedrooms)? If you haven't explored those two options, I'd try those first (and qucikly) before packin' up and headin' to Sunny Isles.

You Can
12-07-10, 12:04
Good advice, never rented from Mery but heard nothing but good things.


Blago, can't say that I've ever heard of Sunny Isles. Sounds like a retirement trailer park in FL.

Did you check with Mery Salence for an apt.? Did Juan have any 2 bdrms available (he'll rent to one person for a rate less than two people while locking the door to one of the bedrooms)? If you haven't explored those two options, I'd try those first (and qucikly) before packin' up and headin' to Sunny Isles.

You Can
12-07-10, 12:12
The last part of what you said is a big issue in Colombia. I always hate to say it but if the girl doesnt want to be with a guy, she will definitely quote them a high price, which is a kick to the ego. If he does decide to pay it, it will probably not be a gfe session. I always try to pick a girl that shows interest in me and it has always worked. I tell my buddys this all the time. Dont just think you can go in there and pick the best looking girl and have a great time. You have to try to establish some kind of chemistry.
I have also seen girls tell guys flat out no. Which is a real kick in the balls for the guy, but in essence she did the guy a favor, because the session would have been bad. This is why I love Colombia and have had great times the girls are not so desparate that there just going to go with anyone, I like this and I like the mentality of Colombia women. I have always done well there and total GFE.
Your advice was dead on!



Here's something I posted in the past about LDV. Suits your situation so I'll copy and paste it here.

Being pitched 500k is easily avoidable. Simply don't ask how much they want. It's an invitation that you may not know the usual prices, and they should try and gouge you.

Instead, tell them what you want to pay.

Establish a rapport with the girl first (drinks, dancing, chat). Then give her an offer about what you want to do: "I would like you to come with me to my apartment in Laguito. I have some drinks back at my place (rum, vodka.) or you can smoke a joint. I want you to stay about an hour and a half. I am offering 150k pesos and will also pay your taxi after you leave my place. I'm a calm and relaxed person and will make sure you're comfortable with me".

Something like the above (alter it to suit your circumstances). I sometimes pull them out of LDV a bit earlier, then offer to escort them to the door of Elektra after we're done. Make the offer attractive to the girl and she will more likely say yes.

Now if the guy happens to be an unattractive person, maybe that explains getting way higher quotes. Girls won't say no outright, they'll just quote a high rate. If you suspect this, find someone who understands colombianas and ask them if you're giving off bad vibes.

Blago
12-08-10, 16:35
Can someone please give me contact information for Mery Salence? The search function came up empty.

Juan had a really nice 2BR left-but at a price higher than the Hilton.

Sunny Isles is a 8 story or so apartment building that looks fine, if guests are welcome.

I know I need to get moving on this, but have been distracted by health issue with elderly parents.

Thanks.


Blago, can't say that I've ever heard of Sunny Isles. Sounds like a retirement trailer park in FL.

Did you check with Mery Salence for an apt? Did Juan have any 2 bdrms available (he'll rent to one person for a rate less than two people while locking the door to one of the bedrooms)? If you haven't explored those two options, I'd try those first (and qucikly) before packin' up and headin' to Sunny Isles.

Hilltopper
12-08-10, 18:20
Can someone please give me contact information for Mery Salence? The search function came up empty.

Juan had a really nice 2BR left-but at a price higher than the Hilton.

Sunny Isles is a 8 story or so apartment building that looks fine, if guests are welcome.

I know I need to get moving on this, but have been distracted by health issue with elderly parents.

Thanks. Hmmmm, sounds like you ran into a "High Season" price, or maybe it was for both floors of the Mirador Penthouse. Nonetheless, check your private message system here at ISG for Mery's contact info.

Good luck,

Hilltopper

World Travel 69
12-09-10, 01:53
9. Cartagena's Finest Rentals. Mery, Tel: 011-57-5-655-0384.

http://www.colombiarental.com/rentals/index.htm


Can someone please give me contact information for Mery Salence? The search function came up empty.

Juan had a really nice 2BR left-but at a price higher than the Hilton.

Sunny Isles is a 8 story or so apartment building that looks fine, if guests are welcome.

I know I need to get moving on this, but have been distracted by health issue with elderly parents.

Thanks.

Tomasb
12-09-10, 02:45
Not certain where you got the 500K amount from my report. The two girls I asked both wanted $250k for two hours and would not budge off that price and that appeared to be the going rate based on other conversations at ELEKTRA. However, I was a bit amused about another response from a punter who says he hates to ask about the number of pops, what they will do, etc. Etc. I have to agree that asking these questions can kill the mood so to speak. Unfortunately, if you don't ask, then you are putting yourself at risk for a low grade or low value experience as my report so amply demonstrated.

Like I mentioned about my Cali friend in a prior report, she just gave the vibe that anything goes and that turned out to be true. You really have to use some intuition to determine how the experience might be. With that girl, I really did not have to ask anything, I pretty much knew that I would have a good time. However, with a lot of these girls, they throw off the attitude that they are 'too cool for school'. It's a real crapshoot. Your damned if you ask and damned if you don't.

I should note that I am an older guy, which may explain part of my difficulty with the younger gals. Unlike Asia, not all the girls are into older guys but I don't think that had anything to do with the prices they were tossing out. It seems to be the norm at LDV.


Here's something I posted in the past about LDV. Suits your situation so I'll copy and paste it here.

Being pitched 500k is easily avoidable. Simply don't ask how much they want. It's an invitation that you may not know the usual prices, and they should try and gouge you.

Instead, tell them what you want to pay.

Establish a rapport with the girl first (drinks, dancing, chat). Then give her an offer about what you want to do: "I would like you to come with me to my apartment in Laguito. I have some drinks back at my place (rum, vodka.) or you can smoke a joint. I want you to stay about an hour and a half. I am offering 150k pesos and will also pay your taxi after you leave my place. I'm a calm and relaxed person and will make sure you're comfortable with me".

Something like the above (alter it to suit your circumstances). I sometimes pull them out of LDV a bit earlier, then offer to escort them to the door of Elektra after we're done. Make the offer attractive to the girl and she will more likely say yes.

Now if the guy happens to be an unattractive person, maybe that explains getting way higher quotes. Girls won't say no outright, they'll just quote a high rate. If you suspect this, find someone who understands colombianas and ask them if you're giving off bad vibes.

Medellin Dreams
12-10-10, 16:04
Hi all.

Mostly lurker here. Mongered Col since 2001. Been here 2 nights in Ctg. Went to LDV last 2 nights Dec. 8-9 2010.

These are prices quotes from girls in Ldv from 6 mongers, in COP pesos.

Monger 1. 400, 300, 300, 300k.

Monger 2. 300, 300, 250, 200k (1*). Accepted 200k offer with a 3 time repeat girl for TLN.

Monger 3 (me).300, 300, 200 (2*). Declined 200k offer for 1 hr.

Monger's 4-6. 300, 200, 100 (3*). Accepted 100k offer for 1+ hr at 5:30 in am.

(* Mongs 4-6 are 3 guys in their early 30's, blonde hair, blue eyes, good shape. Every Col girls fantasy.)

Summary: Majority of time Ldv girls will ask 300k+ to start, and won't go lower than 200 for any time frame.

You will have to negotiate every fking thing prior to leaving the bar,

Every angle, or they will try to use it as a angle for more pay.

It's like trying to do a business deal back home for the company or a car. Annoying. LOL.

Of course, I'm sure we will now hear from very experienced ctg'ers who will say they always get TLN from

LDV for 150, but for the rest of us these are real prices, right now.

I'm here for 4 more days and will check the beach action and centro / plaza domingo area.

Cheers.

MiamiHeatLuver
12-10-10, 16:46
(* Mongs 4-6 are 3 guys in their early 30's, blonde hair, blue eyes, good shape. Every Col girls fantasy.)

Ha haaaaa, says who? I know some "blue eyed, good shape, fantasy gringos" who couldn't charm the pants off a mayorista puta. The fact that they "thought" they were all that and could negotiate better TLN rates backfired and they left quite disappointed.

Medellin Dreams
12-10-10, 17:41
Ha haaaaa, says who? I know some "blue eyed, good shape, fantasy gringos" who couldn't charm the pants off a mayorista puta. The fact that they "thought" they were all that and could negotiate better TLN rates backfired and they left quite disappointed.Hmm. Says who. Says Me.

Your statement can be true, but now your talking about something else. (I. E. Charm, game and bargaining / social skills). These things as mongers we can change or improve on if want, whereas changing your.

"look" is somewhat more difficult.

My experience with latinas and talking with latinas is that this is what they would prefer / choose based on looks.

Where is it you find that based on looks, that the majority would choose dark hair, dark eyes over this. I'd like to check it out. LOL.

Note: The 3 guys in this report had no "attitude". Last night as they left the cafe, a table of teenage Colombian girls were breaking their necks checking them out as they were leaving, which prompted me to turn to the attractive 40 year old latina at my table that I had just been introduced to, and asked this question, in which she smiled and said yes

Tomasb
12-10-10, 18:43
Great report as that collaborates my experiences, however, you have provided a greater statistical sample to back up my assessment. Also, I have to believe based on my two experiences with LDV chicas that you better make certain that you get everything you are expecting prior to returning to your hotel. It may damage the mood but odds are against you if you don't confirm your service expectations. I remember the one from a few weeks ago who wanted to be paid extra for more than one pop in our two hour previously agreed timeframe. She thought she could use up the rest of the time giving me a lousy massage.


Here's something I posted in the past about LDV. Suits your situation so I'll copy and paste it here.

Being pitched 500k is easily avoidable. Simply don't ask how much they want. It's an invitation that you may not know the usual prices, and they should try and gouge you.

Instead, tell them what you want to pay.

Establish a rapport with the girl first (drinks, dancing, chat). Then give her an offer about what you want to do: "I would like you to come with me to my apartment in Laguito. I have some drinks back at my place (rum, vodka.) or you can smoke a joint. I want you to stay about an hour and a half. I am offering 150k pesos and will also pay your taxi after you leave my place. I'm a calm and relaxed person and will make sure you're comfortable with me".

Something like the above (alter it to suit your circumstances). I sometimes pull them out of LDV a bit earlier, then offer to escort them to the door of Elektra after we're done. Make the offer attractive to the girl and she will more likely say yes.

Now if the guy happens to be an unattractive person, maybe that explains getting way higher quotes. Girls won't say no outright, they'll just quote a high rate. If you suspect this, find someone who understands colombianas and ask them if you're giving off bad vibes.
Hi all.

Mostly lurker here. Mongered Col since 2001. Been here 2 nights in Ctg. Went to LDV last 2 nights Dec. 8-9 2010.

These are prices quotes from girls in Ldv from 6 mongers, in COP pesos.

Monger 1. 400, 300, 300, 300k.

Monger 2. 300, 300, 250, 200k (1*). Accepted 200k offer with a 3 time repeat girl for TLN.

Monger 3 (me).300, 300, 200 (2*). Declined 200k offer for 1 hr.

Monger's 4-6. 300, 200, 100 (3*). Accepted 100k offer for 1+ hr at 5:30 in am.

(* Mongs 4-6 are 3 guys in their early 30's, blonde hair, blue eyes, good shape. Every Col girls fantasy.)

Summary: Majority of time Ldv girls will ask 300k+ to start, and won't go lower than 200 for any time frame.

You will have to negotiate every fking thing prior to leaving the bar,

Every angle, or they will try to use it as a angle for more pay.

It's like trying to do a business deal back home for the company or a car. Annoying. LOL.

Of course, I'm sure we will now hear from very experienced ctg'ers who will say they always get TLN from

LDV for 150, but for the rest of us these are real prices, right now.

I'm here for 4 more days and will check the beach action and centro / plaza domingo area.

Cheers.

Medellin Dreams
12-13-10, 23:27
All.

My first trip to Ctg was in 2001, I had great time, made friends that live here and mongers passing through.

Back then I could recommend it as a good monger destination.

I no longer recommend it. ESPECIALLY if your a newbie / rookie / basic Spanish.

LDV is joke now. I gave up there when I had 2 different girls actually turn their backs on me in the middle of conversation when I did'nt immediatedly say "Yes I want you". Most the girls are standing firm at 200k for 1hr.

300-500 for TLN. (No I'm not kidding, and yes this is the feedback from other mongers here also)

Worse, another monger said he did strike deal with one he thought he had a good vibe going.

They agreed on a price (150k for 2hrs) , so he danced, kissed, groped, and bought lotsa drinks in the mood for.

The fun coming. Later he said "ready?" and she said "Yes, for 300k for 1 hr."

Street action was ok, but 1 of my 2 picks, a waste of time lying about either her age or intentions when she stated she had a cedula and suddenly could not produce it at the hotel lobby.

Tried 3 different latinamericancupid girls for dates. All 3 no shows, only 1 called to say sorry.

If you don't want to take my word for it that things keep getting worse. 2 people I know here who somewhat like us mongers for business, and have lived here since the early 80's, (not working girls, but apartment renters, ground support. 1man-1woman). Told me my 1st day here." the girls are getting really bad."

I have heard there can be beach action in the afternoons for 120-200k for 1-2hrs, but I can not confirm this info.

Summary: If you are new to the monger game, I'd try somewhere else. For others its getting tougher to get value and have a decent time here in ol' Ctg. Not saying it is impossible, but getting tough.

I can recommend the seafood soup at Julia's restaurant in Laquito. YMMV.

Cheers

Golfinho
12-14-10, 00:23
All.

My first trip to Ctg was in 2001, I had great time, made friends that live here and mongers passing through.

Back then I could recommend it as a good monger destination.

I no longer recommend it. ESPECIALLY if your a newbie / rookie / basic Spanish.

LDV is joke now. I gave up there when I had 2 different girls actually turn their backs on me in the middle of conversation when I did'nt immediatedly say "Yes I want you". Most the girls are standing firm at 200k for 1hr.

SWhaaat? Are you not every colombian girl's dream?

You Can
12-14-10, 00:50
Well, unless all this happened since Sept 2010 I couldn't agree with you. Hope you have better luck else where. I appreciate your report and realize that most women will try to get as much as possible, but I was in Cartagena 6 times in 2010 and had great times and great women. I speak very little espanol and have had great times there. I am going back in Feb and will report back but I already know I will have a great time because I make it happen. Thanks for your report.


All.

My first trip to Ctg was in 2001, I had great time, made friends that live here and mongers passing through.

Back then I could recommend it as a good monger destination.

I no longer recommend it. ESPECIALLY if your a newbie / rookie / basic Spanish.

LDV is joke now. I gave up there when I had 2 different girls actually turn their backs on me in the middle of conversation when I did'nt immediatedly say "Yes I want you". Most the girls are standing firm at 200k for 1hr.

300-500 for TLN. (No I'm not kidding, and yes this is the feedback from other mongers here also)

Worse, another monger said he did strike deal with one he thought he had a good vibe going.

They agreed on a price (150k for 2hrs) , so he danced, kissed, groped, and bought lotsa drinks in the mood for.

The fun coming. Later he said "ready?" and she said "Yes, for 300k for 1 hr."

Street action was ok, but 1 of my 2 picks, a waste of time lying about either her age or intentions when she stated she had a cedula and suddenly could not produce it at the hotel lobby.

Tried 3 different latinamericancupid girls for dates. All 3 no shows, only 1 called to say sorry.

If you don't want to take my word for it that things keep getting worse. 2 people I know here who somewhat like us mongers for business, and have lived here since the early 80's, (not working girls, but apartment renters, ground support. 1man-1woman). Told me my 1st day here." the girls are getting really bad."

I have heard there can be beach action in the afternoons for 120-200k for 1-2hrs, but I can not confirm this info.

Summary: If you are new to the monger game, I'd try somewhere else. For others its getting tougher to get value and have a decent time here in ol' Ctg. Not saying it is impossible, but getting tough.

I can recommend the seafood soup at Julia's restaurant in Laquito. YMMV.

Cheers

You Can
12-14-10, 02:27
Well, thats probably the difference, I didn't start going till 2 years ago, so as all places and prices, I am sure things have changed. Yes I was in Sosua last week and had a great time, but nothing compared to my trips to Colombia. The Colombian women make the Sosua women look like bag ladies and the type of class of visitors to Colombia is much classier then the general type of visitor to Sosua, which I prefer. Most of the guys that visit Sosua would not do very well with Colombian women in my opinion.


Do not mean to rain on your parade Youcan, but like Medellin Dreams I was going to Cartagena quite often in the early 2000's, and have made a couple trips in the recent years, and things are so much different. The difference is like night and day, and it is not good. I still had a good time during my recent visits, but it was nothing like in the past, for the exact reasons Medellin Dreams pointed out. The thing I like about Cartagena is that it is just a hop, skip, and a jump for me to get to on Spirit Air, from my home in Naples. By the way, I just got back from a trip to Sosua and had a great time. Have you been back there lately?

Bowerboy
12-14-10, 03:22
I love this forum for the accuracy of its information.

Right now I am in Cartegna and after reading through the posts I just have to ask myself "why on earth would you even bother coming here to monger"? I am am just going to totally forget even thinking about it here and wait until I get to Medellin or Bogota or Santa Marta. If it doesn't happen at all then at those prices I really couldn't care less anyway.

Man I can get beautiful Brazilian or Colombian or Venezuluan or Japanses chicks in my home country for that price. No travel expenses and no hassles. Why even bother here?

I will report on other areas if anything does turn up but I am not even thinking about it here. I suggest if others did the same then some equilibrium may again be established.

You Can
12-14-10, 08:40
Bowerboy, if you are rite now in Cartagena, then why would you be reading through the post? Why would you not be out partying and experiencing what is happening yourself? And reporting back. Last thing in the world I would be doing if I was in CTG is reading thru post on a computer? WTF? How can you not be thinking about it there? If you are there? What are you going to do sit in your apartment? Your post makes no fucking sense at all. I don't even know you and can see why no women would want to be with you or if she had to be, she would absolutely charge you an enormous rate, you really sound like a ball of fun, sitting at your laptop reading thru post? Yea!


I love this forum for the accuracy of its information.

Right now I am in Cartegna and after reading through the posts I just have to ask myself "why on earth would you even bother coming here to monger"? I am am just going to totally forget even thinking about it here and wait until I get to Medellin or Bogota or Santa Marta. If it doesn't happen at all then at those prices I really couldn't care less anyway.

Man I can get beautiful Brazilian or Colombian or Venezuluan or Japanses chicks in my home country for that price. No travel expenses and no hassles. Why even bother here?

I will report on other areas if anything does turn up but I am not even thinking about it here. I suggest if others did the same then some equilibrium may again be established.

Bowerboy
12-14-10, 14:50
You are quite the aggressive little man. Going by your other posts you need to relax a bit. I said I love the accuracy of the information on this site which is why I am not even bothering to look in Cartegena (other places I definitely will). Paying those prices and going though all that haggling about what they will and won't do. No thanks, but good luck to you if thats what you want. Go to your doctor and ask him for some Xanax, it will help brother.

Black Page
12-14-10, 15:38
Please bros in CTG now,

How's weather in CTG in these days? Is it raining very hard 24h / 24h? Has the Centro or Bocagrande suffered inundation? Sorry for the silly question, but I am seeing news and the North Colombia is not well in these days.

I am going to CTG tomorrow. What to expect?

Thank you if you can reply quickly.

Mr Gogo
12-14-10, 18:29
Bowerboy, if you are rite now in Cartagena, then why would you be reading through the post? Why would you not be out partying and experiencing what is happening yourself? And reporting back. Last thing in the world I would be doing if I was in CTG is reading thru post on a computer? WTF? How can you not be thinking about it there? If you are there? What are you going to do sit in your apartment? Your post makes no fucking sense at all. I don't even know you and can see why no women would want to be with you or if she had to be, she would absolutely charge you an enormous rate, you really sound like a ball of fun, sitting at your laptop reading thru post? Yea!I actually enjoy the few down moments I have between drinking, clubbing, and chasing pussy as I travel. Web surfing, watching videos or just sitting on the balcony watching the city go by are my in house favorites. Your down time is a good time to gather yourself mentally. Do some pushups, count your money, or load some pictures onto this site. But if your in your room pouting about some bad chica that didn't fiuck you correct, thats another story.

Member #3435
12-14-10, 19:06
You are quite the aggressive little man. Going by your other posts you need to relax a bit. I said I love the accuracy of the information on this site which is why I am not even bothering to look in Cartegena (other places I definitely will). Paying those prices and going though all that haggling about what they will and won't do. No thanks, but good luck to you if thats what you want. Go to your doctor and ask him for some Xanax, it will help brother.Dude, I hear ya but;

Recommending to THAT dude to take MORE drugs?

Not sure that's the best advice. LOL

Cubfan1963
12-14-10, 19:25
bowerboy, if you are rite now in cartagena, then why would you be reading through the post? why would you not be out partying and experiencing what is happening yourself? and reporting back. last thing in the world i would be doing if i was in ctg is reading thru post on a computer? wtf? how can you not be thinking about it there? if you are there? what are you going to do sit in your apartment? your post makes no fucking sense at all. i don't even know you and can see why no women would want to be with you or if she had to be, she would absolutely charge you an enormous rate, you really sound like a ball of fun, sitting at your laptop reading thru post? yea!i have to agree with you can to a certain extent. i have only been to ctg twice but both trips have been with in the last 4 months. this being said, i cannot comment on the good ol days since i don't have a point of reference beyond 4 months ago. i do take issue with the pricing. i took women out of ldv for $100-$150k. these were not 5, 6 or 7s. these were 8+ or 9s. yes, most did start at $250 or $300k. i did share my bottle of don medellin with them to build a repore before we negotiated. am i brad pitt. no. do i speak spanish. no but i didn't just launch into negotiations and low ball them. i spent a little time and chatted them up. i did get excellent lt for $200k as well.

street urchins are about $40-$50k. they start asking $100 or $250k. i didn't spend any time schmoozing these gals but simply walked away from their first number. they literally chased me down the street with lower numbers. yes, be careful of the **** urchins. they are tempting but do your checking. a good doorman will keep you out of trouble.

all this being said i am going to mde in january. not because ctg is too expensive or the girls are bitches but i am simply trying to expand my horizons. many of the women that i met in ctg were from mde so i am going to the source.

Cubfan1963
12-14-10, 19:29
Please bros in CTG now,

How's weather in CTG in these days? Is it raining very hard 24h / 24h? Has the Centro or Bocagrande suffered inundation? Sorry for the silly question, but I am seeing news and the North Colombia is not well in these days.

I am going to CTG tomorrow. What to expect?

Thank you if you can reply quickly. Yes, it is raining pretty hard. Recently spoke with a Chica that I met last trip. She said it was raining every day. This is typical for this time of year. When I was out there the end of October the seas were so rough the waves were coming onto the road from the airport. Many flooded streets. Very limited beach action. I made walking Centro tough to do.

Bowerboy
12-14-10, 20:43
It rained all last night and pretty much all day today. Heavy rain indeed.

Black Page
12-15-10, 17:01
Folks,

What I hated of the Colombia forums was to see them moderated. I want to see my post posted as soon as I hit "enter".
Now, fortunately, the forum is not moderated anymore. If we want to keep it like that, shall we follow 2 simple Golden Rules?

1) never write personal attacks or use aggressive words.
2) if you are attacked, ignore and do not reply.

1) is not for everyone, but 2) is just a matter of self-discipline. Simple....

Member #3435
12-15-10, 18:53
Folks,

What I hated of the Colombia forums was to see them moderated. I want to see my post posted as soon as I hit "enter".

Now, fortunately, the forum is not moderated anymore. If we want to keep it like that, shall we follow 2 simple Golden Rules?

1) never write personal attacks or use aggressive words.

2) if you are attacked, ignore and do not reply.

1) is not for everyone, but 2) is just a matter of self-discipline. Simple. BP:

Very good and timely advice.

Agreed.

Especially for someone like Mr 3 reports who claims he knows people who know me.

Sheesh! Unbelieveable.

All the best, Schwmm

Hilltopper
12-16-10, 14:34
Please bros in CTG now,

How's weather in CTG in these days? Is it raining very hard 24h / 24h? Has the Centro or Bocagrande suffered inundation? Sorry for the silly question, but I am seeing news and the North Colombia is not well in these days.

I am going to CTG tomorrow. What to expect?

Thank you if you can reply quickly. Looks like you may have arrived CTG now and was wondering if the rains are disrupting things for you? Like another guy posted, I've heard that the beaches, streets and the barrios have been quite affected, but do not know that from being there myself.

Hope you enjoy your visit to CTG and look forward to your reports!

Joey Smith
12-21-10, 23:28
Headed to CTG this week. Wondering how the action is in LDV and other places. Any new locations someone has uncovered would be most appreciated?

Thanks

JS

Black Page
12-22-10, 13:56
Headed to CTG this week. Wondering how the action is in LDV and other places. Any new locations someone has uncovered would be most appreciated?

Thanks.

JSAmazingly, the Golden Rule is always: RTFF.

Scroll back up to 2 years, read the Reports of Distinction, and read also my long reports of 1-2 years ago, which are good for newbies.

Joey Smith
12-23-10, 01:10
Amazingly, the Golden Rule is always: RTFF.

Scroll back up to 2 years, read the Reports of Distinction, and read also my long reports of 1-2 years ago, which are good for newbies.If you can't answer the question why would you even comment with such a lame answer. Guys like you are so smug and detached.

Black Page
12-23-10, 16:42
If you can't answer the question why would you even comment with such a lame answer. Guys like you are so smug and detached.I did not mean to be lame. Please try to read back the RoD, as I wrote, and you'll discover that my answer was a good suggestion. The basic fact is that the answer to your question is already there. All what you ask is detailed in the RoD. After you read, you can ask precise questions and people will be happy to answer. Welcome to CTG.

Hilltopper
12-24-10, 19:07
Quick and short report.

Made it here the other day and as fortune would have it, ran into a Colombian amigo within an hour of arriving. He insisted that I should let him introduce me to some chicas, so I said ok and told him my preferences. The next 24 hours I pretty much stayed in my apartment to greet, meet and have fun with chicas he would introduce to me. 3 out of the 4 I found attractive and with the right vibe, while one I just didn't feel it with and had him politely send her on her way (I did give him taxi fare for her).

Why do I say "as fortune would have it"? Because with the recent rains having changed the beach scene (I was told that the sea was so high that there wasn't really any place for chairs and carpas in Playa Hollywood (I haven't gone yet so I can't say that from firsthand experience) , and with many of the working chicas having gone home for the holidays, having a local friend who knows local chicas can sure fill the void.

Went to LDV last night around 1 am around 30-40 chicas and maybe 12 or so hombres. As others have said, many of the chicas go home to be with family (as one would expect). Of the chicas there, I saw maybe only 5 or 6 that would be doable for me sober. Maybe another 5 or 6 would have been doable for me if I had been drinking earlier or walked-in with the mindset of needing "it" badly.

Again as one would probably expect, more chicas seemed a little desperate to get a man's attention. One chica in particular was a complete pain in the ass. Had to tell her on three different occassions that I was not interested and that I preferred to drink my beer alone at the time.

Stopped by Electra around 5 a.m. and as you can probably already guess---it was slim pickins' as compared to other times of the year. Also, just like in LDV, was approached by more chicas than usual, even with there being an overall low number of chicas compared to other times of the year.

Can not give out any "price quotes", as I did not broach that subject and did not take a chica home from either LDV or Electra. I'd had enough "fun" for my first day and a half that I just wasn't feeling it unless I found something that really made me stand at attention-and nothing did.

Hilltopper
12-27-10, 00:36
As a follow-up to the previous report, did make it to the beach and there are carpas, etc, in Playa Hollywood. They are all about 40 yards back from where they usually are, all the way up against the back border wall that seperates the beach from hotels / buildings.

Predominantly families and groups of friends at the beach, and of course Tony there wanting to introduce a "new" chica. Just hung out for a couple of hours and bought Tony a couple of beers. Hey, it's Christmas!

Blago
12-28-10, 02:06
Mery got me into the Torre Centauro building, which she says is near the Hilton. In just looking at maps I'm having trouble orienting myself in CTG-no doubt it will be easier when I actually get there.

Is this walking distance to LDV? Has anyone created any good maps of CTG highlighting points of interest?

Thanks.

Havahopeful
12-28-10, 06:46
Torre Centauro is about a 3 minute walk from LDV located pretty much in the middle of Hilton and LDV.

I've stayed in 2 different apartments there and both were acceptable. Not at the Mirador del Laguito or Torre del Lago level but not super dated and more or less well run. The pool is on the roof and doesn't have much activity. The other negative is that there aren't many units with balconies.

What kind of pricing for what size place did you get?

Mojo Bandit
12-28-10, 15:33
Mery got me into the Torre Centauro building, which she says is near the Hilton. In just looking at maps I'm having trouble orienting myself in CTG-no doubt it will be easier when I actually get there.

Is this walking distance to LDV? Has anyone created any good maps of CTG highlighting points of interest?

Thanks.

Dw1987
12-28-10, 16:15
Relize Mirador Del La Guito is no longer chica friendly.

KellySlater
12-28-10, 19:17
Well I will be back with more info but already crazy stories to tell.

But after about a month of reading every thread here and maybe 300 posts about Tony numero uno,

The guy was standing at the reception counter of my apartment building when I arrived.

Coincidence? Quem sabe

But he did his pitch I said maybe later.

Blago
12-28-10, 20:49
Thanks for info. Cost was 300, 000 Pesos per night, which I though as OK given the high season. The Hilton wants $375 a night.


Torre Centauro is about a 3 minute walk from LDV located pretty much in the middle of Hilton and LDV.

I've stayed in 2 different apartments there and both were acceptable. Not at the Mirador del Laguito or Torre del Lago level but not super dated and more or less well run. The pool is on the roof and doesn't have much activity. The other negative is that there aren't many units with balconies.

What kind of pricing for what size place did you get?

Hilltopper
12-28-10, 23:51
Mery got me into the Torre Centauro building, which she says is near the Hilton. In just looking at maps I'm having trouble orienting myself in CTG-no doubt it will be easier when I actually get there.

Is this walking distance to LDV? Has anyone created any good maps of CTG highlighting points of interest?

Thanks. Blago, check World Travel's Cartagena Info post in the Cartagena Lists thread on this forum . He's put together a great list of information, and I believe there are links to a couple of maps on his list. I think now his post is probably on the 2nd most recent page in that thread. Spend some time checking out the other information on World Travel's post, as it contains a wealth of information all in one spot. You can also check out Cartagenainfo.net, but I'd start with World Travel's Cartagena list first.

Enjoy your trip!

You Can
12-29-10, 01:52
Since when? I find that hard to believe.


Relize Mirador Del La Guito is no longer chica friendly.

Havahopeful
12-29-10, 17:14
Both times I stayed at Mirador de Laguito almost all of my time was spent with the only 1 girl. 1 non pro and 1 pro that really didn't have the look of one. Before booking I asked if I can bring girls up without a problem and they said no issue so long as its only 1 girl.

Security was much stronger there than in some of the other buildings I have stayed at. Torre del Lago is a building where they don't seem to pay any attention to who comes and who goes. Surprising considering its a new beautiful building.

On another note 300, 000 seems a lot for Torre Centauro. I spent 200, 000 last year for the 2 bed 2 bath unit at Torre del Lago. That is the most I have ever paid for a 2 bed 2 bath. The year before I stayed at Torre Centauro for 180,000 for the 2 bed 2 bath with balcony. When I was only using 1 bedroom they reduced the price to 130,000. I have always traveled in February, March or October.

Have prices gone up a lot in the last year? Or are January prices considerably higher than February?

Golfinho
12-30-10, 02:22
On another note 300, 000 seems a lot for Torre Centauro. I spent 200, 000 last year for the 2 bed 2 bath unit at Torre del Lago. That is the most I have ever paid for a 2 bed 2 bath. The year before I stayed at Torre Centauro for 180, 000 for the 2 bed 2 bath with balcony. When I was only using 1 bedroom they reduced the price to 130, 000. I have always traveled in February, March or October.

Have prices gone up a lot in the last year? Or are January prices considerably higher than February? Decided against coming to CTG for New Years' week when was finding the good pads all booked. Now, to hear the prices being charged at the dumps, glad I didn't put myself through the aggravation.

Blago
12-31-10, 20:56
My modest contribution to the knowledge base-walking directions from the Hilton Hotel (a good landmark in Laguito) to LDV:

Walking toward the Hilton, turn left on the street just before you enter the Hilton grounds. The street is Av. Retorno. This street curves around a small lagoon and keep following it around the lagoon until the sidewalk ends about 2/3 of the way around at Cra. 3. Walk left about a block on Cra. 3 and then make a left on Calle 4. If you are on the left side of Calle 4 it will curve to the left around the Hotel Caribe. After you make that curve you are on Carrera 1 (beach is on other side of street). Follow Carrera 1 for maybe 300M until you see a brown 2 story building on your right signed 'Pierino Gallo. ' LDV is on the second level, up the stairs. If you get there after midnight (as you should) you'll have no trouble at all finding the entrance.

About 15 minutes and should be safe since all the streets are busy day and night. I know taxis are cheap in CTG, but a nice walk to get the blood moving is a good thing too.

Otiers
01-01-11, 01:16
My modest contribution to the knowledge base-walking directions from the Hilton Hotel (a good landmark in Laguito) to LDV:

Walking toward the Hilton, turn left on the street just before you enter the Hilton grounds. The street is Av. Retorno. This street curves around a small lagoon and keep following it around the lagoon until the sidewalk ends about 2/3 of the way around at Cra. 3. Walk left about a block on Cra. 3 and then make a left on Calle 4. If you are on the left side of Calle 4 it will curve to the left around the Hotel Caribe. After you make that curve you are on Carrera 1 (beach is on other side of street). Follow Carrera 1 for maybe 300M until you see a brown 2 story building on your right signed 'Pierino Gallo. ' LDV is on the second level, up the stairs. If you get there after midnight (as you should) you'll have no trouble at all finding the entrance.

About 15 minutes and should be safe since all the streets are busy day and night. I know taxis are cheap in CTG, but a nice walk to get the blood moving is a good thing too. Why are you going out of the way to get to LDV? Walk out of the front door of the Hiton, go straight. DO NOT TURN. In five minutes you are there. When you get to the split in the road, if you angle left, the stairs are on the right and if you angle to the right, turn left past the building and left at the stairs. I can understand your way if you are taking a taxi because the street is one way and forms a complete loop around Laquito.

Hilltopper
01-01-11, 18:56
....Have prices gone up a lot in the last year? Or are January prices considerably higher than February?

To my knowledge, prices for apartments managed by Juan or Mery have generally stayed the same in the past year. I can think of an exception for the apartments that changed owners that Mery manages or used to manage, as the new owner is asking for quite a bit more than the previous owner.

The 300 mil pesos that Blago is paying is a high season price, probably close to double the non-high season rate. High season rates will cease on or around Jan. 15th.

Hilltopper
01-01-11, 19:07
Since when? I find that hard to believe.I can confirm as of the end of November. 2010 that the Mirador was still chica friendly. That being said, they have been known to say no more than 2 chicas (working) , especially outside of say the 11 pm to 4 am timeframe. The lady administrator (the one with a frequent scowl on her face when you bring a chica to the lobby during the daylight hours) has made the guys at the front desk enforce a little more stricter policy than say 2 or 3 years ago.

Hilltopper
01-01-11, 19:14
Decided against coming to CTG for New Years' week when was finding the good pads all booked. Now, to hear the prices being charged at the dumps, glad I didn't put myself through the aggravation.I guess I've stayed in over a dozen apartments managed by either Juan or Mery, and while some have been nicer than others, I can't classify any of them as dumps. I'd be interested in learning which specific apartments you consider a dump? Would be good to know for future reference.

Tjecon
01-01-11, 19:39
I can confirm as of the end of November. 2010 that the Mirador was still chica friendly. That being said, they have been known to say no more than 2 chicas (working) , especially outside of say the 11 pm to 4 am timeframe. The lady administrator (the one with a frequent scowl on her face when you bring a chica to the lobby during the daylight hours) has made the guys at the front desk enforce a little more stricter policy than say 2 or 3 years ago.Rented Playa Mar 302 from Juan in August 2010. No restrictions regarding girls but they do have to show I'd for age verification to the front desk. There are about 8 working girls that live directly across the street in a high rise. Thety sit outside in the afternoon and evenings. Great fun, GFE, they are 1/3 the price of the LDV girls and all are 7's to 9's. Look for Sandra or Roches. Fabulous girls. Also look for an old guy named Bill that sits in a chair outside Playa Mar every afternoon. Grat source of information. He's an x-pat and has lived there for decades.

Gonzo
01-02-11, 09:06
Also look for an old guy named Bill that sits in a chair outside Playa Mar every afternoon. Grat source of information. He's an x-pat and has lived there for decades.Good to hear that Bill is still alive and kickin' and the stag bench at Playa Mar is still in operation. Sandra has been a fave of mine for years. I'll be there in a couple of months, looking forward to seeing old friends and new ones that I'll make, especially the female ones.

Black Page
01-04-11, 13:17
I have been lazy after my trip to CTG in September (4 days). I feel lazy also now, after another trip to CTG in December (3 days) , but this time I force myself to write a summary report for both experiences.

FOREWORD TO NEWBIES

I think that my old reports dated 2009 still present valid information, overall. I see only minor details that are outdated. Important things did not change. First-timers may find useful to read them, as an introduction to the places and things:
Part. 1
http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=832873
Part. 2
http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=832877
Part. 3
http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=832882
(linked also among RoD)

La Dulce Vida

I don't like La Dulce Vida a.k.a. LDV (sometimes we should expand the acronym, to be not cryptic vs. Newcomers). I have been there 2-3 times again, in Sept. And Dec, and I always felt misplaced.

Many girls vs. Few men. 99% of them gringo looking. I remember a couple of guys pretending to be in a real disco, dancing very seriously in the middle of dance floor. When I was there, I could not refrain from thinking that most men I was seeing were probably lodging very close to LDV and maybe restricting their circle of activities in a 1-km radius in Bocagrande, without enjoying the life in CTG or even knowing what was the city like. .

What I don't like in LDV, especially, is that while I walk around I feel the eyes of all girls following me. At the same time, I scan all bodies and faces. There is something like a tension, which makes the place not really a disco, while it is still not really a brothel. Also, being early (typically 12 or 1am) , girls aim at long time TLN and propose high fees. Girls are mostly very professional. Of course, with patience some special one can be found.

SEEKING ELSEWHERE

Considering my negative feeling at LDV, I always strove to find elsewhere some good company.

OTHER CLUBS

I NEVER entered ISIS. I don't like the way they do marketing, spamming all streets nearby with poor guys repeating like a mantra "Isis, Isis, Isis caballero. Isis, Isis, Isis caballero. Isis, Isis, Isis caballero."

I tried Banana's this December. It's basically a BmD place (prices not very high) , but you can take out girls too. I actually had such a fun time with 3 girls. Paid a few drinks and had a lot of laugh, fun, strokes and touches back. I was proposed to take all 3 to the hotel for 300k. Thinking retrospectively, I should have said yes, but it was 12 and I thought to have all the night ahead for better opportunities.

Elektra is the place to go, in my opinion. It opens 3am. Starting 3:30am, it is packed with all girls out of LDV and other clubs. Given the low ratio man / girls, it is not necessarily true that at 3am all best girls have been already "booked". Actually, I've been often overwhelmed by the number of stunning girls available at Elektra. Hard to choose. Given the time, it is also easier to bargain for a better fee.

A PRIVATE SITE

In September, I was bored of LDV, Elektra and streets and I wanted to go really off-track. I really wanted to find the casa in Zaragocilla mentioned by Otiers in his post (I think some weeks before Sept. 2010). I asked various taxi drivers, but nobody knew that place (What a pity! If anybody knows how to locate it, I will be grateful for that hint! Please PM me!).

A driver, finally, took me to a private house in Alcibia (near Av. Pedro de Heredia, after the Mercado del Bazurto). A nice kind lady runs this business at home. She lives there with husband and young daughter (no, she does not work, and she is such a sweetie). She can call girls, according to user requirements, and she also has a room in the back. She asks a tip for the room and the intermediation (I gave 30k and 50k). Negotiation is between me and the girl, chatting privately in front of a beer.

I have been there two times in Sept. And one time now in December. I went there by taxi and came back walking (from Bazurto to India Catalina does not take more than 30-40 minutes).

What I like of this place is the family environment and the fact that she can call free-lance girls from CTG barrios, not those working in bigger casas. To be honest, at least half of the girls she called for me looked hard-core (not the SYT I was looking for) , but I simply asked to propose me somebody different.

The first did not look particularly attractive to me, but she asked 200k for short time (!) , claiming she was unprofessional college student. My guess was that she was around 20yo and not so naive, anyway. After her, I talked with a younger, shorter and a bit chubby girl who definitely looked like a "first-timer" (no, not virgin, I mean not used to P4P). She asked me 80k and even asked if it was ok. I did not want to negotiate lower, because in CTG this is what you are asked to pay even with sleazy ones in CL. Media Luna. I really enjoyed her company and we also exchanged the phone numbers. Too bad I had to leave the day after and I could not meet her one more time!

I returned to this place also in December and I met another outstanding non-pro girl (but she asked 120k after negotiation!). What is surprising is that after I finished with this girl, another one came, but fat and looking like with years of working experience. The lady asked me if I wanted also her for the night, maybe. I am surprised, because she should know what kind of girls I like (and she did not insist, in fact).

STREETS

The Center is not like years ago anymore. Girls in front of California Bar and CL. Media Luna are now the worst of the worst. The ones under the colonnade in the plaza del Reloy are mostly ugly and sleazy. BUT, there are always exceptions. .

In September, I had the chance to meet a tall black girl walking around the Plaza. She is still there, if you like. She was with a blond pregnant girl (5th month) , but she is not working anymore (she is now waiting to drop and she also found a nice man to stay with!). I started to talk and finally I invited them to eat something at the fast food in the plaza. I had a very nice time with them. They are honest girls (I am not ironic) and I enjoyed so much that I accepted to go with them in a room of a hotel nearby. I was asked 300k first (by the black girl, very skilful) , but we settled for 200k. I know it's pricey, but how could I miss the opportunity to play 3-some with a panther-body black girl and a preggy blondie? Not going to LDV, sure. And it was a rewarding experience indeed! (no, I don't give out details).

Next time, I think I will try the strategy I like to pursue in Bogota or Medellin. Pay a taxi driver to scout around bad areas and watch SWs. I found gems in this way. The problem is that 2 hours by taxi in Medellin cost 40k, in CTG it's different. Also, I have no idea about what areas would be good in CTG for SWs, outside Bocagrande and El Centro.

WHAT HOTEL?

I cannot understand why so many people strive to have a girl from LDV to spend the whole night with them. Except few of them, they are very professional. I like to have a girl for all the night in my room only in the best conditions of GFE. I had such a feeling only in Asia (Kuala Lumpur, Singapore, Batam, see my last report there). I think you know the sentence "We hobbyists do not pay a girl for sex, but for making her to disappear after sex". .

I add that I stay in a hotel in El Centro where it is forbidden to bring girls (people after 12 cannot enter if not registered UPON CHECK-IN!). Therefore, finding a good place for ST is imperative.

If you have time and plan to make longer your ST, I recommend La Jaiva (read my reports linked above). It's a nice love hotel at Crespo (10-12k from Reloy by taxi, maybe 15k / hour). It's super discreet: no cedula, no checkin. You enter by taxi in the box, pay the driver, climb the stairs, pay the maid through a small window. If you don't like the eyes of the doorman screening you when you enter the hotel with your girl, that's your place (I guess there are also shy ones among ISG readers).

If you want to stay at El Centro, there are various decent hotels nearby Reloy, which will rent you a clean room for 15k / hour. One I tried various times is Sol de las Indias 1 block from Elektra.

Ricker
01-04-11, 15:18
. I don't like La Dulce Vida a. K. A. LDV (sometimes we should expand the acronym, to be not cryptic vs. Newcomers).

Hey amigo, thanks for the Cartagena update!

Looks like I may be visiting for a couple days in Feb to go to a wedding.

Your reports will come in handy, I haven't been there in maybe 3 years.

Elektra sounds like fun but at 330 AM. Well, I'm a wimpo, and I'd just rather be sleeping at that time and I hate wasting the whole next day.

My personal LDV experiences have been good in the past.
As you say though, you have to be able to weed through the hard pros or at least be able to soften them up a bit.
Spanish skills are almost a must, unless you just don't mind paying the high asking prices with mechanical service.
If you can actually get these chicas to see you as a guy, maybe even a cool guy and not just a cash machine with a pecker, everything gets better and cheaper :)

Also, please correct me if I'm equivocado, but I believe LDV stands for 'la Dolce Vita', from the owner's Italian language, for 'the sweet life'.

Thanks again for the updates!

Black Page
01-04-11, 15:59
Also, please correct me if I'm equivocado, but I believe LDV stands for 'la Dolce Vita', from the owner's Italian language, for 'the sweet life'. Yes the owner is Italian, the (in) famous Aldo.

Re. LDV, I think you are right. I checked some web pages and the real name of the club is "La Dolce Vita". I am used to call it "La Dulce Vida", wrongly I think at this point, because most girls call it that way.

By the way,"La Dolce Vita" is the title of the famous movie by Federico Fellini. Aldo wanted to recall it, when he named the place.

Lusifer69
01-04-11, 22:35
Is March 16 to the 23 a good time to travel to Cartagena, Colombia? I m planning on visiting a few coastal cities like Santa Marta and Barranquilla.

Travel Doc10
01-05-11, 17:16
Thanks for the info. Black page. It goes to show that there are a number of ways to approach this hobby in ctg. I am headed back in feb. For a week, may wind up going to the out of town beach for a couple of days. LDV is certianly a unique place and I think any newcomer to town should visit at least once. It is like a mini-help (Rio) in some ways. But it does lose its shock value. I felt the first time was almost overwelming, but with each additional time you realized you saw the same faces over and over. Plus they can be very hardened pros. You really have to search for the right connection. And yes, one time I was dancing like a regular club. Was pretty f. Ed up, just wanted to party (was burned out on fucking). Ran into a previous aquaintace, who was of the same mindset. So we just partied on as old friends. I also want to suggest to the newcomers to definitly try the beach scene, I personally felt you got much more of GFE from those girls, generally younger than ldv, not as rushed. A good late afternoon activity, and allows you to then go out to dinner, etc. With a clear head. Not so much on the prowl, BTW, tony #1 is as described, but he could definitly deliver on the goods. I prefer a variety of girls in the beginning, then look for one that has areally good connection, then spend a couple days with that one. Going to dinner, regular clubs in centro, etc. I see you prefer to search for casas, etc. To much work for me, but thats just me. I am looking forward to trying my luck at more places like tu candela, etc this time. My problem is my spanish is muy poco. Take care and enjoy your travels.

Bologna
01-05-11, 18:37
There are about 8 working girls that live directly across the street in a high rise. Thety sit outside in the afternoon and evenings. Great fun, GFE, they are 1/3 the price of the LDV girls and all are 7's to 9's. Look for Sandra or Roches. Fabulous girls.I know Sandra, she is a very sweet girl and I think I know Roches but not sure. Is she the real skinny one with bubbly personality and very cute? I think she is the sister of Claudia. Who is also very cute.

Black Page
01-05-11, 21:10
Thanks for the info. Black page. It goes to show that there are a number of ways to approach this hobby in ctg. I am headed back in feb. For a week, may wind up going to the out of town beach for a couple of days. LDV is certianly a unique place and I think any newcomer to town should visit at least once. It is like a mini-help (Rio) in some ways. But it does lose its shock value. I felt the first time was almost overwelming, but with each additional time you realized you saw the same faces over and over. Plus they can be very hardened pros. You really have to search for the right connection. And yes, one time I was dancing like a regular club. Was pretty f. Ed up, just wanted to party (was burned out on fucking). Ran into a previous aquaintace, who was of the same mindset. So we just partied on as old friends. I also want to suggest to the newcomers to definitly try the beach scene, I personally felt you got much more of GFE from those girls, generally younger than ldv, not as rushed. A good late afternoon activity, and allows you to then go out to dinner, etc. With a clear head. Not so much on the prowl, BTW, tony #1 is as described, but he could definitly deliver on the goods. I prefer a variety of girls in the beginning, then look for one that has areally good connection, then spend a couple days with that one. Going to dinner, regular clubs in centro, etc. I see you prefer to search for casas, etc. To much work for me, but thats just me. I am looking forward to trying my luck at more places like tu candela, etc this time. My problem is my spanish is muy poco. Take care and enjoy your travels.No, you are wrong.

I like the beach. I had my best encounters on the beach my first time in CTG (3 yrs ago, I think) , skipping Tony and the slime alike. This year and before, I did not see anything interesting on the beach, except pros and families or friends. I like to do what you did on the beach. I'll try again.

Otiers
01-06-11, 01:08
No, you are wrong.

I like the beach. I had my best encounters on the beach my first time in CTG (3 yrs ago, I think) , skipping Tony and the slime alike. This year and before, I did not see anything interesting on the beach, except pros and families or friends. I like to do what you did on the beach. I'll try again. BP,

Don't be too surprised that, mixed in with the families and friends, are girls that will go back to your apartment. Tony introduced me to a 20 something lady who was sitting with another woman and four young children. It turns out they were sisters and the children were her nephews and nieces. She had no problem earning a few extrra bucks. Last September, while I had time to kill before my ex showed up, I was introduced to a girl that had been playing in the surf and partying with a few other girls and guys. She was a college student there on break with her friends but still spent a few hours back in my apartment. She even had stayed too long and had to call her friends and the needed to leave quickly for Barranquilla.

About five years ago, I even found a beach girl without Tony's help. Tony was a little annoyed because he did not know her and wanted me to give him her info. Anyway I was in the water and she was alone about twenty feet in front of me. I slowly got closer and started to talk with her. She had just turned 18 and was there with her friend (boyfriend?) They both looked like the backpacker type, but I gave the two some beer and we talked. After a while I suggested she come back with me and the guy was OK with it. When she headed off to the water, he filled me in on how she screams when she has an orgasm. I let the guy take a quick shower at the apartment and showed him the door after I gave him 10K to go get something to eat at Julias. He was right, she was a screamer.

I wonder how Hollywood Beach is today? I read the Cartagena newpaper online each day and yesterday they had an article and pictures of Hollywood Beach. The water was all the way up to the cement wall and the bar / restaurant. The article stated the vendors have moved down to other beaches and the bar had closed. I am not sure if it was recent or if it was a few weeks ago when there was extreme flooding.

I did find a couple of casas near PleyClub. One was actually right behind it. It was interesting the first time I went in the afternoon and was not really opened. There is a courtyard where there are tables and bar and at the back was one shack that was closed. The madam pounded on the door for five minutes until the girl answered the door half asleep. I felt bad when I said no thanks. To me I just could not have sex with somebody forced to wake up. The next time I went, I found a great 25 year old from Monteria. The room was rather stark with the sheet only covering half of the dirty mattress. I will not go back because as I was leaving, I noticed there were quite a few girls looking very young. Later the cabbie told me they were 14. That is one problem I do not need to deal with.

I plan to go back to Cartagena in May, but it will be difficult. My wife was suppose to go to the embassy for her visa in August, but never showed up. I was with her in September and she said it was the embassy's fault and she was there. So I sent her money for a trip to Bogota in October, but once again she did not show up. A week later, I got an email telling me she did not wish to return to the USA. After a month, she wanted to know if we were still married and if I would move to Colombia. I told her I could not move there for at least ten more years. She said if we were to remain married, I would need to send her 2 million each month for expenses. I told her she is on her own and not to expect anyhting from me. I felt bad at Christmas because I know my stepson would be expecting me to be there and to bring him a new X-Box for his present.

Enough of that, just brought it up for those thinking of bringing home one of the cuties from Colombia. Think before you act. My ex did give up a good job six years ago when she came to the US and she only lasted three years before she got homesick. Now she owns a four bedroom condo on Av Consulado which I paid for and expected to live in when I retired. Funny thing about Colombian women, even when she knows she will be with another man someday, she still wants me to be at her beckon call. So when I come, I will need to hide out away from her friends' eyes. I can sneak to the beach and LDV at night, but the morning run and afternoon walk to Bocagrande is off the books. Too many people know me and my ex.

I hope all have a Happy New Year.

Golfinho
01-06-11, 03:12
I sent her money for a trip to Bogota in October, but once again she did not show up. A week later, I got an email telling me she did not wish to return to the USA. She said if we were still married, I would need to send her 2 million each month for expenses. Now she owns a four bedroom condo on Av Consulado which I paid for and expected to live in when I retired. When I come, I will need to hide out away from her friends' eyes. I can sneak to the beach and LDV at night, but the morning run and afternoon walk to Bocagrande is off the books. Too many people know me and my ex.Thanks for the info, and for offering the glimpse into what not to do.

Kdogg21
01-07-11, 00:55
So no one has any details about the casas in Cartagena? SO far it has been ask a taxi driver, no lists or addresses?

Otiers
01-08-11, 00:57
So no one has any details about the casas in Cartagena? SO far it has been ask a taxi driver, no lists or addresses?Are you offering to create a list? Thanks for helping.

World Travel 69
01-08-11, 16:39
There is a list, but most of them are Bar / Club type places, with rooms in the back.


So no one has any details about the casas in Cartagena? SO far it has been ask a taxi driver, no lists or addresses?

KellySlater
01-11-11, 22:09
So I went to Cartagena.

Overall I enjoyed my stay and will return again some day. I was there during holiday season so I am sure it can be quite different but it was still Fun.

My first day there I arrived at play mar which I rented From Juan Ventura. This has been said many times here but once again Juan delivered and the whole experience with him was excellent. Highly recommended.

My first night I met a girl in a rather unusual way for me. I was talking with a friend in his apartment in a nearby building when his Colombian friend showed up with a girl for him. He had other plans so I jumped on this opportunity.

She was very cute and we spent the night together. We went to LDV where I was glad I already had support for the night since the selection was not good. 300k.

I partied like crazy the first night so did nothing on day 2.

Day 3 I met this girl at the beach was I ended up spending 2 days with. 500k 2 days.

I walked along the beach and on the main road in bocagrande.

Day 5 went to LDV and picked up Yenny. Dark skinned girl from Cali I think. Very thin. I think I have seen her picture here before. She was cute but the selection was more about finding the best of the bunch since there was very limited visible talent. 200K 5 hours or so.

Day 6 toured the city during the afternoon and then went out to some normal bars at night. Tu candella, Cafe del mar, etc.

Day 7 found this girl claudia out on the street in front of playa mar.

So only 4 in 7 days. Very relaxed week in Colombia. The holiday season seemed to impact the scene although I have nothing to compare it to.

Thanks for all the info on the board without which I would have been lost!

Cheers!

Kdogg21
01-15-11, 16:51
Are you offering to create a list? Thanks for helping.If I can get more information I will, I helped on the Cartagena list in the past and YOU?

Otiers
01-15-11, 23:48
If I can get more information I will, I helped on the Cartagena list in the past and YOU?Perhaps you should go down a few posts and read what I had posted. Look up my Reports of Distinction from September and read a few of the reports. Also, go to the Catagena Lists reports and it might provide plenty of information. There is so much information within the past ten pages that you will be as up to date as you need to be. Just don't be lazy and expect everyone to do the work for you. As the butler told the drunken Arthur in the 1980's movie,"Perhaps you would also like me to wash your dick for you". Dws.

Cartagena does not have many options for casas. They are more low key and the best is to ask a taxi driver to take you to one since they may open and close locations frequently. As my report only a few posts down suggests, go to the casa behind PleyClub. It is opened in the evening.

Travel Doc10
01-19-11, 12:11
Hi guys, I will be coming back down in 3 1/2 weeks and wondering if the rains have let up yet. In November we had huge storms on a daily basis. On a more practical note, I'm wondering what your experience with colombiancupid has been. I have been chatting with a number of very pretty girls, who I imagine are semi-pros. But wonder if the hassle of trying to make arrangements, girls flaking out / not showing up, or just plain lack of chemistry makes it worth it. Of course we are all looking for that diamond in the rough who turns out to be total GFE and spends several days with you, but thinking it might just be easier to look in the usual spots and see what develops. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks

MiamiHeatLuver
01-19-11, 17:21
Hi guys, I will be coming back down in 3 1/2 weeks and wondering if the rains have let up yet. In November we had huge storms on a daily basis. On a more practical note, I'm wondering what your experience with colombiancupid has been. I have been chatting with a number of very pretty girls, who I imagine are semi-pros. But wonder if the hassle of trying to make arrangements, girls flaking out / not showing up, or just plain lack of chemistry makes it worth it. Of course we are all looking for that diamond in the rough who turns out to be total GFE and spends several days with you, but thinking it might just be easier to look in the usual spots and see what develops. Any insight would be appreciated. ThanksColombian Cupid 4 years ago was good, now? It is full of prepagos and a way for bandidas to prey on gringos ala Romance Latina. Make sure you have at least 4 or 5 options on there because you will be disappointed by the flakyness and constant lies of the ladies. Maybe you can still find a diamond in the rough. Who knows?

Jelly Donut
01-20-11, 01:35
I also want to suggest to the newcomers to definitly try the beach scene, I personally felt you got much more of GFE from those girls, generally younger than ldv, not as rushed. A good late afternoon activity, and allows you to then go out to dinner, etc.This is a very thoughtful post. In my experience, this reflects the current state of things. I never would have considered spending time with Tony a few years back; he is a great example of a person who, if you give him an inch, or even a foot, he will dog after you for a yard. He is difficult.

But the reality is he is a known broker. Girls show up on the beach, knowing little or nothing about the Cartagena scene and they find him. Of course, there are other guys working this niche down the beach, but Tony is well-known on both the buy and sell side of the market. He speaks English and this gives him a major advantage in bringing people together. If you want to match up with someone quick, he can often help. He is the easiest way to connect with girls on the beach.

As TravelDoc10 suggests beach girls are often not long-term sex workers. A couple of years back Tony did not seem to have the same volume of connections and would ring up whoever was working the street. He is annoying, but dealing with him saves time, costs a little (unless you get drawn into his vortex of bullshit) and can set you up with a gem.

If you are in Cartagena right now you might ask him about either Mary Paz or Cindy. As of this week, either of these girls trumps any Girl at LDV in terms of attitude and most of them in terms of looks. They both shot me honest Christmas-style smiles when I dropped 200k COP on them for a few hours work. Mary Paz cleaned my place top-to-bottom in her bikini (not my fetish, I did not ask; her charming neurosis). The reality is they will probably leave town soon, but Tony talks to many girls every day.

Many LDV women seem to expect 200k COP for one pop these days. At least that's where the negotiations will start. Some look great, but a lot of the LDV girls smell really bad when you screw them; they almost all have worked for years. They almost all watch the clock. Although they might compare well against sex workers in, say, the USA they do not compare well against their own reputation from even a few years back. They do not compare well against what you can find combing the beach.