Cartagena Reports

[Neverenuff]

I'm in Cartagena now. My second time here. Please don't come here. It sucks. It's bad. Smelly, dirty and lots of violence. No one speaks English. Food is a nightmare.

Hehehe. Mine. All mine.

[Neverenuff]

Seriously though. JD is on the money. Personally I despise the dolled up Kardashian look the hardcore pros are emulating. It's usually a dead give away for shitty service.

[Loumann]

I'm heading to Cartagena next week. From the photo the beach seems totaly washed away has that changed in the last few days? What kind of shape is hollywood beach in? Are there any areas were the beach is normal? Is tony still around hollywood? Is there still action on the beaches?

Thanks

[Neverenuff]

I'm heading to Cartagena next week. From the photo the beach seems totaly washed away has that changed in the last few days? What kind of shape is hollywood beach in? Are there any areas were the beach is normal? Is tony still around hollywood? Is there still action on the beaches?

ThanksTony is still there, nose dripping and sniffing like crazy. Beach is dirty as usual. Pretty small beach but still better friends to be found there than other venues.

[World Travel 69]

Try San Andres.

It is funny it is an Island of Colombia, but it closer to Honduras.

They is still a Political Problem as to who has the rights to the Island?


Tony is still there, nose dripping and sniffing like crazy. Beach is dirty as usual. Pretty small beach but still better friends to be found there than other venues.

[Tomasb]

it's actually a dispute with nicaragua as to ownership as the island, which used to belong to nic though colombia 'appropriated' san andres in the early to mid 20th century. the only political problem is sour grapes on the part of nic. ps: they ain't getting it back. mainland colombians cannot stay there indefinitely and they need a visa, which provides a max of 90 days on the island. it's kind of bizarre regulation and it is like saying americans needed a visa to go to hawaii.

as for the island, i went there last summer. they have a little club outside of the center where you can take out girls for the day or have a go with them at the club. i think it's called sexi but any taxi driver knows the location. most of the girls at the club seem to be from mde and have the same visa's noted above. i took one out and had a very nice time with her that evening and the next day. pretty hot girl and total gfe. overall, the beaches are very few and not all that great, the hotels are overpriced and sub class, and the food / restaurants options are marginal. the main town sucks and the night life is lacking. i was bored to death after 4 days.


try san andres.

it is funny it is an island of colombia, but it closer to honduras.

they is still a political problem as to who has the rights to the island?

[John Gault]

Try San Andres.

It is funny it is an Island of Colombia, but it closer to Honduras.

They is still a Political Problem as to who has the rights to the Island? The water there is great, but I think when the guy was talking about CTG beach he was also interested in P4P.

In San Andres the pickings are very slim indeed. I have been there twice and have found the best bet is to bring your own.

[Ricker]

... San Andres ... Mainland Colombians cannot stay there indefinitely and they need a visa, which provides a max of 90 days on the island. It's kind of bizarre regulation and it is like saying Americans needed a visa to go to Hawaii.I'm not disputing your statement really regarding Colombianos needing visas in San Andres, because I'm definitely no expert on the subject, however, I've been there a couple times with Colombian girlfriends and I don't remember them getting visas for the vist, unless maybe the visa was issued upon arrival.

I also remember meetings lots of Colombians working there on the island that had been there for years but were from the mainland Colombia.

[Tomasb]

Well, I could be wrong about that. An attorney on the island told me about the visa or some other type restriction so it's only hearsay. The attorney also said that if you marry someone from the island who has established residency, then you have resident status as well. Plus the girl I met from MDE who was working at the club said she was only allowed to be there for 90 days. I was also told that there are quite a few mainland Colombians on the island who technically should not be there.

Apparently, San Andreans don't want a bunch of mainlanders coming over and mucking things up for the locals but someone who is better informed about all these things can clarify or modify my original statement. One other thing, it is my understanding that there are only a very few Americans who live there permanently for the same reason and they are married to locals.


I'm not disputing your statement really regarding Colombianos needing visas in San Andres, because I'm definitely no expert on the subject, however, I've been there a couple times with Colombian girlfriends and I don't remember them getting visas for the vist, unless maybe the visa was issued upon arrival.

I also remember meetings lots of Colombians working there on the island that had been there for years but were from the mainland Colombia.

[Flaco Loco]

Gents,

I will be going to Cartagena this weekend on sort of a last minute trip. Unfortunately all the apartments that I looked for are booked. I have found the reasonably priced Hotel Playa which suites my needs. Does anyone know if it is guest friendly? I have searched the forums and I know apartments are preferred. But someone has to have some info on a guest friendly hotel, please. I appreciate any and all input, thanks!

[El Vagabundo]

Gents,

I will be going to Cartagena this weekend on sort of a last minute trip. Unfortunately all the apartments that I looked for are booked. I have found the reasonably priced Hotel Playa which suites my needs. Does anyone know if it is guest friendly? I have searched the forums and I know apartments are preferred. But someone has to have some info on a guest friendly hotel, please. I appreciate any and all input, thanks! I may be able to help you out with an apartment. Send me your dates and I will look. Vagabundo at chatconmigo dot com.

Martin

[World Travel 69]

Gents,

Near the Beach and close to LDV

Most hotels with want a few bucks.

Sometimes if you rent a room for two people, you may not be bothered paying extra.

I have stayed at this hotel a few times. I never brought anyone to Hotel, but the people that work there, seem like you should have to much of a problem.

There is a love motel a few doors down the street, for a quickie.

Hotel Playa, Avenida San Martin # 4-87, Bocagrande. Rates: 136k. 200k, Pool, WiFi downstairs only. Tel: (57) (5) 665 0552, 665 0579, 665 0593, Fax: (57) 95) 665 0036. E-Mail: reservas@cartagenahotelplaya.com http://www.hotelplayactg.com/home.htm

I will be going to Cartagena this weekend on sort of a last minute trip. Unfortunately all the apartments that I looked for are booked. I have found the reasonably priced Hotel Playa which suites my needs. Does anyone know if it is guest friendly? I have searched the forums and I know apartments are preferred. But someone has to have some info on a guest friendly hotel, please. I appreciate any and all input, thanks! That is your best Bet. Let us know What Happens, We are Waiting with your happy times report?

[John Traveller]

I went to the club Isis in the Centro of Cartagena the other day. Some negative views on this forum about this place so I was curious about this place. I was positively surprised. When I arrived around 11 the place was packed with girls, most of them well over average pretty. Some guests, but not many. Also a relexed athmosphere.

I immidiately noticed a girl standing at the bar, young, looked "innocent", small in stature and beautiful, at least a 9 for my taste. I chatted her up and bought her a drink. She quoted 260 k pesos for one hour, I managed to get it down to 210 k. And off we went. She said it was her first day at Isis, and this seemed to be true, she didn't know the way to the hotel. (A short term hotel three blocks away. 25 k). A guy from the club went with us and showed us the way. Quiet funny.

The sex was really nice, the BJ was covered, but good. And yes, she had a real tight pussy. Maybe it was true it was her first time in this job, well anyway funny to think about. Her name is Paula, but don't you guys spil her!

Alas, I can recommend Isis, se the lists for the address. A good end of my Colombia-trip, now I am off to Asia.

[You Can]

I'm glad you had a good time and I am not trying to bust your balls. But you got ripped off and then on top of that a covered BJ. Fuck that, I don't pay that much for a girl to stay alnight.


I went to the club Isis in the Centro of Cartagena the other day. Some negative views on this forum about this place so I was curious about this place. I was positively surprised. When I arrived around 11 the place was packed with girls, most of them well over average pretty. Some guests, but not many. Also a relexed athmosphere.

I immidiately noticed a girl standing at the bar, young, looked "innocent", small in stature and beautiful, at least a 9 for my taste. I chatted her up and bought her a drink. She quoted 260 k pesos for one hour, I managed to get it down to 210 k. And off we went. She said it was her first day at Isis, and this seemed to be true, she didn't know the way to the hotel. (A short term hotel three blocks away. 25 k). A guy from the club went with us and showed us the way. Quiet funny.

The sex was really nice, the BJ was covered, but good. And yes, she had a real tight pussy. Maybe it was true it was her first time in this job, well anyway funny to think about. Her name is Paula, but don't you guys spil her!

Alas, I can recommend Isis, se the lists for the address. A good end of my Colombia-trip, now I am off to Asia.

[StudlyHungwell]

Hey guys.

Here is some good news for anyione in Cartagena now, Carolina is back in town and ready to party.

She also has a friend if your in the mood for 2 hot Chickas.

She is 150 cop for an hour and will also do TLN for about 300 cop.

Best blow job you will ever have and a great piece of ass.

Make sure you have some music in your room as she also loves to dance and strip down before doing the deed.

Usually works at LDV but I also have her cellular number so message me and I will give it to you.

Happy hunting.

Studly

[Mr Gogo]

I went to the club Isis in the Centro of Cartagena the other day. Some negative views on this forum about this place so I was curious about this place. I was positively surprised. When I arrived around 11 the place was packed with girls, most of them well over average pretty. Some guests, but not many. Also a relexed athmosphere.

I immidiately noticed a girl standing at the bar, young, looked "innocent", small in stature and beautiful, at least a 9 for my taste. I chatted her up and bought her a drink. She quoted 260 k pesos for one hour, I managed to get it down to 210 k. And off we went. She said it was her first day at Isis, and this seemed to be true, she didn't know the way to the hotel. (A short term hotel three blocks away. 25 k). A guy from the club went with us and showed us the way. Quiet funny.

The sex was really nice, the BJ was covered, but good. And yes, she had a real tight pussy. Maybe it was true it was her first time in this job, well anyway funny to think about. Her name is Paula, but don't you guys spil her!

Alas, I can recommend Isis, se the lists for the address. A good end of my Colombia-trip, now I am off to Asia. Great report John, thanks for your honesty. I just got back from Costa Rica last week and girls would say"100usd for an hour. 300usd tln" before they say their name. But you let the guys on that board tell it, they were getting girls for 50usd for an hour. There are some places there that are timed and reasonable, but most of those guys are paying top dollar.

I respect a guy who can honestly post good or bad. As long as he isn't taking advantage of the situation.

[Mastorr]

I'm planning my next trip to CTG and I will be arriving on a Saturday afternoon to Bogota and after at 22:00 pm to Ctg.

Anybody knows if there are banks or money changers open in Bogota or Cartagena airports at this time?

I use to exchange money at CC Carulla (Money Gramm) in Laguito but at this time is close and on Sunday too.

Thanks.

[Black Page]

I'm planning my next trip to CTG and I will be arriving on a Saturday afternoon to Bogota and after at 22:00 pm to Ctg.

Anybody knows if there are banks or money changers open in Bogota or Cartagena airports at this time?

I use to exchange money at CC Carulla (Money Gramm) in Laguito but at this time is close and on Sunday too.

Thanks. But why you want a money changer instead of an ATM?

ATMs are by far the cheapest Way to get local currency, not only in Colombia but in many countries (please note: use SAVINGS ACCOUNT, not the cash advance of credit cards) , not to mention that they are everywhere and open 24/24, and also that you don't have to carry all cash with you when you travel.

I strongly recommend to avoid money changers. I wrote many reports about this, with all explanations and cost comparison, so I don't repeat the various reasons here.

[Mastorr]

But why you want a money changer instead of an ATM?

ATMs are by far the cheapest Way to get local currency, not only in Colombia but in many countries (please note: use SAVINGS ACCOUNT, not the cash advance of credit cards) , not to mention that they are everywhere and open 24/24, and also that you don't have to carry all cash with you when you travel.

I strongly recommend to avoid money changers. I wrote many reports about this, with all explanations and cost comparison, so I don't repeat the various reasons here. With my card (not credit card) , if I get cash in ATMs different from my bank, this creates high commission for the amount taken.

[World Travel 69]

No Problem.

Go there and tell them, they sent you an OK For your Price.

Be Strong.

It is the same in all of S. A.

Tell them, Gary the old Bald headed Guy, Said it is OK for the price.


Gents,

I will be going to Cartagena this weekend on sort of a last minute trip. Unfortunately all the apartments that I looked for are booked. I have found the reasonably priced Hotel Playa which suites my needs. Does anyone know if it is guest friendly? I have searched the forums and I know apartments are preferred. But someone has to have some info on a guest friendly hotel, please. I appreciate any and all input, thanks!

[Black Page]

With my card (not credit card) , if I get cash in ATMs different from my bank, this creates high commission for the amount taken.If your bank treats you like that on the debit card, it probably robs you also in other ways. Maybe change?
With any card carrying the Maestro logo (the debit card of MasterCard) : 2 EUR fixed fee + 1% fee on the current interbank exchange rate.

[Mastorr]

If your bank treats you like that on the debit card, it probably robs you also in other ways. Maybe change?

With any card carrying the Maestro logo (the debit card of MasterCard) : 2 EUR fixed fee + 1% fee on the current interbank exchange rate. Yes, my debit card is MasterCard but I don't know what is the difference (current exchange) between money changer and ATM. I suppose will be a little bit higher in ATM but if you add, (in each operation) .2 EUR + 1 % fee on the current interbank exchange rate. I repeat that it is only using the math.

[Kyle Fox]

I spent 6 days in Bocagrande in early December. Here's my report.

I stayed at bargain hotel first 2 night, Hotel Crisor on Cra 3. It is only 42K per night and no chica charge if she is there less than 3 hours. Night security guard will try to charge you but just remind him you know the policy. Run is small and basic but it has A / C, wireless internet and small TV (though mine didn't work so well). No hot water if that's important to you.

The last 4 nights I stayed at Hotel Bocagrande on Cra 2, the main strip with all the shopping stores. The gave me a multiple night discount for 4 nights and paying in advance. 112K for 1 person or 153K for 2 people (no hassles regardless if your chicas changed regularly). This room was larger, modern flat screen TV, balcony out back, newer furniture, A / C, wireless Internet, but again no hot water. Place also has decent restaurant onsite.

First night (Tuesday) I went to the "fish bowl" known as LDV. I call it that because as others have stated, sometimes you are only on of very few men in there and you feel like you are in a fish bowl being watched from outside as the eyes follow you. I don't like the vibe of the place at all, but where else you going to go for freelancers at 11pm on any night? I didn't like many of the chicas there but I did really like one fine young thing. She had showing midriff with flat stomach and beautiful breasts with niples piercing through her sweater. She was 9 to 9. 5 and nothing else better than a 7 in the place. I waited a bit because I hated the fishbowl feeling and didn't want to stared at as I introduced myself. That was a mistake because 60-year old guy (I'm 45) came right up to her, sat her down and bought her a drink. Shit. Missed my opportunity.

Fortunately, the conversation between old guy and hottie didn't go well and she left him and went back to stand next to her friend. Learning from my mistake I went right up to her and said Hello. After a quick chit chat she tells me $250K for 2 hours and then before I can respond she drops down to $200K for 2 hours. Carolina, age 20, I think about negotiating but since I like her way more than anyone else in the place I agree (I paid $150-180K for simiilar in 2008). Back to my hotel we go. She is absolutely gorgeous and friendly but has one flaw. She is GFE when music is on and we are talking, singing or dancing, but once we get into the sex stuff she gets into mechanical mode. Her breasts are natural but maybe the best naturals I've ever touched. Think Alexis Love's body. Her face was different but body very much like Alexis Love. Thin legs, butt and arms but firm, round breasts and beautiful face.

After 2 hours she left and I made an appointment with her the next day. Wednesday day and night I spent with her again, hanging out, enjoying meals, music, talking and of course doing the nasty. She was a very nice girl, super pretty, but the mechanical nature of the sex got old on me and I wanted someone who would really kiss me. Not someone who was going through the motions. I coached her to improve performance and while she tried a little I knew I would just get more frustrated if I didn't get someone who was enjoying sex and kissing at least 1/2 as much as I was. We said a friendly good-bye and I put her on the backup plan for the rest of my trip.

Thursday day I tried hiring a taxi driver to drive me around and look for chicas. One guy had a cousin who knew some girls from the barrio that he would call in. They made the call and the girls were riding in from 45 minutes out. I told him not to do it as there was a 90% chance they wouldn't meet my standards. Onward we drove around Cartagena and looked meanwhile 2 chicas came on the back of motorcyles to Bocagrande. After 1 hour and 40 minutes later. 2 chicas showed up. One had way too much makeup and looked like she had lost a fight 2 days ago, the other was cuteish but looked young and immature in a non-arousing way. I felt terrible that the girls had spent time getting fixed up to come meet a payday gringo only to be quickly dismissed with barely a Hello. But hell, I'm not going to waste my vacation with a girl I'm not attracted to. I told cab driver I wouldn't pay if I didn't like them. The girls took off on motorcycles after 3 minutes of awkward silence. I knew motos weren't free and felt awkward. Taxi driver said he gave them 15K. I asked him what he wanted and he said just give him 10K on top of taxi fare. I agree and left empty-handed for the afternoon. Though I do enjoy the hunt, the chase in and of itself.

Thursday night, I didn't like anything at LDV and then on my taxi ride to El Centro my driver tells me PleyClub has some very pretty girls and he'll take me there for 15K round trip. It is too early for Elecktra so I agree. Free entrance at Pleyclub and drinks are 10K and up. This place is closest to the strip clubs we have back in the states in some ways. It is a big square room, bar on one side, small stage in the center, every 20 minutes a girl comes out and does a pole dance for 2-3 songs and strips down to nothing or as much as she is comfortable with (most get completely nude). The best part of this club is the other chicas who are not dancing on stage wander around, sit, drink, talk and fondle the patrons. I had one girls come up and give me a little lap dance, pull her top down and put her breast in my face and kiss my ears. Quite a turn on. There were girls 8-8. 5 and some 7-7. 5s in looks. I prefer younger and innocent look as opposed to girls 25+, a little or a lot hardened looking and too much makeup (too much of that in LDV for my tastes)

Onsite prices at Pleyclub are 170K for 40 minutes although I got some variations of that price higher and lower depending on the chica. Low as 140K and high as 220K. I told them not looking for onsite but I did get Sharon's number for daytime activity Friday. She had a great smile, beautiful long brown hair and was quite uninhibited. In Pleyclub, none of the girls are uptight and worried what will other girls will think of them. I usually ask a girl to give me a sample kiss in the club / bar to get a sense of how much they GFE / sensual they will be in private. History indicates this is a very reliable test, although some shy girls who don't kiss can be good in private. In LDV, girls don't want to be seen kissing in front of others, but in PC, I had several french kiss me, sit in my lap and massage my back. So much friendlier. I left after thoroughly enjoying myself cozying up to too hotties.

After PleyClub, I hit Elecktra on the way back. There I say a beautiful young girl, Mayra. 19, college student. She has a bit of an Asian look but is 100% Colombian. Sweet long legs, nice C-cup natural breasts and sexy smile. We agree upon 2-3 hours for 200K. She declines the kissing test in the club but she takes the kissing test on the taxi ride and scores a B. Back in the room, she is fun, high-energy, dancing, chatting, and has a smoking body. She gets really turned on and comes when I give oral. I like to take my time and go slowly and sensually in bed. She starts alright but finishes up pretty quickly and claims she wants to get home before sun comes up because what will her neighbors think. I was a little disappointed at the quick departure, but at the same time I'm in awe of how in the past 3 days I've just bed a 19yo and a 20yo who were both solid 9s. Totally amazing!

[Kyle Fox]

Friday I call Sharon from the Pleyclub to come visit me during the day. She comes over and within minutes we are naked in the bed together like long lost lovers. She seems to be as into it as I am and I just can't get enough. She has a very nice body, she's 24/25 and has 2 kids at home (some distance away from CTG) being watched by her mom, nice breasts, great smile, talented tongue. We spend about 2. 5 hours in the bed and then head to the beach for some relaxing and people-watching. It is a relaxing, GFE time with her on the beach. Then back to room, more sex then dinner and she heads back to work. Friday night I'm fairly worn out from Sharon and don't hookup with a chica that evening. I do visit LDV out of curiosity but I don't see anything to my liking other than Carolina (while she's a 9, the lack of kissing brings her down to a 7, and Sharon's an 8 who kisses like a 10). [ Note: I speak Spanish reasonably well ]

Saturday I have an appointment with Sharon and Mayra (oops! Double-booked myself) but Sharon is slow to return my phone calls and Mayra never shows up. So I start walking the beach in search of talent. I enlist one taxi driver who walks the beach with me and drives me around BC. Sharon now calls back but I'm so excited by the hunt and finding some fresh young thing that I don't want her to come over. I let her call go to voicemail and continue my search.

On the beach with the taxi driver, I keep pointing out girls and he's telling me if she's a tourist or a working girl. Turns out that I'm only attracted to the pure looking, innocent tourists and not the hardened, older looking working girls. Not that all the working girls are old, but they do have a "worn" or "hard' look about them in many cases. I even visit with Tony who points me at 2 girls who while both attractive, are both a step down from the 3 girls I've had in the last 4 days. I give that up and walk the streets of Bocagrande. I spot a cute, nicely dressed girl walking the street. I say Hello, and offer to buy her coffee. She accepts and we sit down for a nice chat at Juan Valdez. She works for a local hotel and just finished for the day. I invite her to come swimming with me and she tells me she's having her period, which kinda kills the deal on swimming or anything else for that matter. I got her number for my next visit.

Saturday is my last full day and I'm desperately trying to find a chica and makeout with her in the ocean. A personal favorite activity of mine. Time is running out as it is 3pm. I try Mayra who was supposed to call me at 11am and she is still not picking up her phone. No luck. I call Carolina and she says she'll be there at 4pm. I have a girl I met on the internet who has kept calling me since the day I arrived. I decide to invite her to come when Carolina is already 1 hour late at 5pm. I decide I'm taking the first girl that shows up. Turns out it is the Internet girl. She's up for the beach and we head down there just as the sun as setting. She's easy-going, no problem getting her hair wet, cuddling with me in the ocean. We have a nice relaxing time as the sun completely sets. Then we go back to the hotel. I ask her if she wants to shower. She says yes. I say can I join you, she says "yes, but you can't touch me." in a playful way.

We get undressed and get in the shower, I honor the no touch policy until my little friend is standing at full attention and the sexual tension has peaked. She is short. 5,0, petite spinner with small chest, shoulder length hair. 22yo pretty but not head-turning. We start making out in the shower and had I a condom right there something might of happened in that shower. My experience is though that shower water usually kills the lubrication of a condom and makes it difficult to wear a "shower cap" and make love in the shower. Internet girl is super GFE, a great kisser and enjoys the sex as much as I do. We have a great time in bed, have dinner together, more sex after dinner and then I send her home around midnight. I gave her 170K.

Sunday, I'm flying out at 1:30pm, leaving for airport at noon, but Internet girls comes over at 9am and we have another terrific session in the bed. She gets her first vibrator experience and really likes it. She's a very cool chick, good conversation, enjoying music and sharing stories about life. Then a quick lunch across the street at American broasted and off to the airport.

Overall a very successful trip in CTG. However I will say that if not for Carolina and Mayra in LDV and Elecktra, I may not have selected anything from those 2 clubs. Granted I am quite particular about selecting very pretty and young, trim bodies.

I'm headed back this Thursday for a 4-day trip. I'm going to start with the Internet girl and hotel employee, then look for girls on the beach, in shopping areas, and then look at LDV and Electra. I'm flying out of Atlantic City on Spirit Air for $537 (plus $20 each way for baggage charge). There prices are much lower than anything else I can find in Philadelphia.

Thanks to all those who have shared their stories and info. I hope you enjoyed this.

[You Can]

Thanks for writing a full report. I enjoyed reading it very much, although my taste differ very much from yours, I always appreciate someone who takes the time to write such a detailed report.


I spent 6 days in Bocagrande in early December. Here's my report.

I stayed at bargain hotel first 2 night, Hotel Crisor on Cra 3. It is only 42K per night and no chica charge if she is there less than 3 hours. Night security guard will try to charge you but just remind him you know the policy. Run is small and basic but it has A / C, wireless internet and small TV (though mine didn't work so well). No hot water if that's important to you.

The last 4 nights I stayed at Hotel Bocagrande on Cra 2, the main strip with all the shopping stores. The gave me a multiple night discount for 4 nights and paying in advance. 112K for 1 person or 153K for 2 people (no hassles regardless if your chicas changed regularly). This room was larger, modern flat screen TV, balcony out back, newer furniture, A / C, wireless Internet, but again no hot water. Place also has decent restaurant onsite.

First night (Tuesday) I went to the "fish bowl" known as LDV. I call it that because as others have stated, sometimes you are only on of very few men in there and you feel like you are in a fish bowl being watched from outside as the eyes follow you. I don't like the vibe of the place at all, but where else you going to go for freelancers at 11pm on any night? I didn't like many of the chicas there but I did really like one fine young thing. She had showing midriff with flat stomach and beautiful breasts with niples piercing through her sweater. She was 9 to 9. 5 and nothing else better than a 7 in the place. I waited a bit because I hated the fishbowl feeling and didn't want to stared at as I introduced myself. That was a mistake because 60-year old guy (I'm 45) came right up to her, sat her down and bought her a drink. Shit. Missed my opportunity.

Fortunately, the conversation between old guy and hottie didn't go well and she left him and went back to stand next to her friend. Learning from my mistake I went right up to her and said Hello. After a quick chit chat she tells me $250K for 2 hours and then before I can respond she drops down to $200K for 2 hours. Carolina, age 20, I think about negotiating but since I like her way more than anyone else in the place I agree (I paid $150-180K for simiilar in 2008). Back to my hotel we go. She is absolutely gorgeous and friendly but has one flaw. She is GFE when music is on and we are talking, singing or dancing, but once we get into the sex stuff she gets into mechanical mode. Her breasts are natural but maybe the best naturals I've ever touched. Think Alexis Love's body. Her face was different but body very much like Alexis Love. Thin legs, butt and arms but firm, round breasts and beautiful face.

After 2 hours she left and I made an appointment with her the next day. Wednesday day and night I spent with her again, hanging out, enjoying meals, music, talking and of course doing the nasty. She was a very nice girl, super pretty, but the mechanical nature of the sex got old on me and I wanted someone who would really kiss me. Not someone who was going through the motions. I coached her to improve performance and while she tried a little I knew I would just get more frustrated if I didn't get someone who was enjoying sex and kissing at least 1/2 as much as I was. We said a friendly good-bye and I put her on the backup plan for the rest of my trip.

Thursday day I tried hiring a taxi driver to drive me around and look for chicas. One guy had a cousin who knew some girls from the barrio that he would call in. They made the call and the girls were riding in from 45 minutes out. I told him not to do it as there was a 90% chance they wouldn't meet my standards. Onward we drove around Cartagena and looked meanwhile 2 chicas came on the back of motorcyles to Bocagrande. After 1 hour and 40 minutes later. 2 chicas showed up. One had way too much makeup and looked like she had lost a fight 2 days ago, the other was cuteish but looked young and immature in a non-arousing way. I felt terrible that the girls had spent time getting fixed up to come meet a payday gringo only to be quickly dismissed with barely a Hello. But hell, I'm not going to waste my vacation with a girl I'm not attracted to. I told cab driver I wouldn't pay if I didn't like them. The girls took off on motorcycles after 3 minutes of awkward silence. I knew motos weren't free and felt awkward. Taxi driver said he gave them 15K. I asked him what he wanted and he said just give him 10K on top of taxi fare. I agree and left empty-handed for the afternoon. Though I do enjoy the hunt, the chase in and of itself.

Thursday night, I didn't like anything at LDV and then on my taxi ride to El Centro my driver tells me PleyClub has some very pretty girls and he'll take me there for 15K round trip. It is too early for Elecktra so I agree. Free entrance at Pleyclub and drinks are 10K and up. This place is closest to the strip clubs we have back in the states in some ways. It is a big square room, bar on one side, small stage in the center, every 20 minutes a girl comes out and does a pole dance for 2-3 songs and strips down to nothing or as much as she is comfortable with (most get completely nude). The best part of this club is the other chicas who are not dancing on stage wander around, sit, drink, talk and fondle the patrons. I had one girls come up and give me a little lap dance, pull her top down and put her breast in my face and kiss my ears. Quite a turn on. There were girls 8-8. 5 and some 7-7. 5s in looks. I prefer younger and innocent look as opposed to girls 25+, a little or a lot hardened looking and too much makeup (too much of that in LDV for my tastes)

Onsite prices at Pleyclub are 170K for 40 minutes although I got some variations of that price higher and lower depending on the chica. Low as 140K and high as 220K. I told them not looking for onsite but I did get Sharon's number for daytime activity Friday. She had a great smile, beautiful long brown hair and was quite uninhibited. In Pleyclub, none of the girls are uptight and worried what will other girls will think of them. I usually ask a girl to give me a sample kiss in the club / bar to get a sense of how much they GFE / sensual they will be in private. History indicates this is a very reliable test, although some shy girls who don't kiss can be good in private. In LDV, girls don't want to be seen kissing in front of others, but in PC, I had several french kiss me, sit in my lap and massage my back. So much friendlier. I left after thoroughly enjoying myself cozying up to too hotties.

After PleyClub, I hit Elecktra on the way back. There I say a beautiful young girl, Mayra. 19, college student. She has a bit of an Asian look but is 100% Colombian. Sweet long legs, nice C-cup natural breasts and sexy smile. We agree upon 2-3 hours for 200K. She declines the kissing test in the club but she takes the kissing test on the taxi ride and scores a B. Back in the room, she is fun, high-energy, dancing, chatting, and has a smoking body. She gets really turned on and comes when I give oral. I like to take my time and go slowly and sensually in bed. She starts alright but finishes up pretty quickly and claims she wants to get home before sun comes up because what will her neighbors think. I was a little disappointed at the quick departure, but at the same time I'm in awe of how in the past 3 days I've just bed a 19yo and a 20yo who were both solid 9s. Totally amazing!

[Hilltopper]

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Thanks to all those who have shared their stories and info. I hope you enjoyed this. Great report, Kyle! Also glad to see you share some info in re to hotels in BG, as that is helpful information for others since many guys go the apartment route.

Thanks for sharing your report.

[You Can]

Hey Hill, don't make fun of my tattooed glue headed skanks, they need love to! You are correct in Shrwimmer, last time I was in Colombia I saw him with a Dude with tits, it was 6ft tall and had hands like a lumber jack. I don't know, who am I to pass judgement?


Very enjoyable and nicely written report Kyle. I now hope youcum can write one as good as yours, after his return from Cartagena in a couple of weeks. Hopefully he will post some pics along with the report so everyone can see the tattooed skanks he claims are Queens, and I guess they are in his eyes. (smile)

Youcum, make sure you try to hook up with me so we can smoke the poles together, or I mean our cigars, and pour down some drinks together. I told you the other day that the drinks were all on me. Possibly Schwmmrs cheap ass will be around to party with us. Now that is a guy who loves skanks from both sides of the fence.

Happy mongering guys,

The one and only Hilltoppper direct from Bogota!

[Tar Heel Bred]

Sup fellas! I'm heading to the carib coast of Colombia for alil over a week in the beg of March.

I'm early 20's in shape good looking american. My plan is to hit up the regular clubs first and if they fall through (no chick that is DTF) then to head over the the p4p spots and try and shore (getting them for free) some chicas. I had great success with this method in Rio at the Balcony Bar.

So from my light reading on this thread it appears the best places for me to go to are LDV, Elektra, and Pleyclub. I'm looking for the best looking young girls.

Is there another place I'm missing that I need to hit up?

Thanks!

[CollegePusher]

Hey all,

I've been reading most of the posts on this thread and am definitely interested in going to Cartagena. This will be my first ever erotic vacation and I will be going alone. A little about myself:

Early 20's Chinese American.

5'2.

Senior in College.

Middle Class.

Limited but not too limited budget.

Broke up with my gf (who happens to be latina) of 2 years about 2 months ago. Hence the craving for this vacation.

Thinking about traveling from March 4th to March 11th.

1. Would you recommend me going alone? In terms of safety?

2. How much would I be looking to spend on housing / dining / and getting laid (hope to fuck at least 2 times a day) in one week?

3. How would the weather and party scene (if any) be like during my time of travel?

I have more questions but I do not want to bombard you with all of them at once. I appreciate the help and hoping to get back on a fucking spree.

[Manizales911]

Sup fellas! I'm heading to the carib coast of Colombia for alil over a week in the beg of March.

I'm early 20's in shape good looking american. My plan is to hit up the regular clubs first and if they fall through (no chick that is DTF) then to head over the the p4p spots and try and shore (getting them for free) some chicas. I had great success with this method in Rio at the Balcony Bar.

So from my light reading on this thread it appears the best places for me to go to are LDV, Elektra, and Pleyclub. I'm looking for the best looking young girls.

Is there another place I'm missing that I need to hit up?

Thanks!The three clubs you mentioned are the places to go for P4P but if you think you are walking out of there with a girl for free you are dreaming I don't care how young, good looking or american you are dude it isn't going to happen.

[Ricker]

... I'm early 20's in shape good looking american. My plan is to hit up the regular clubs first and if they fall through (no chick that is DTF) then to head over the the p4p spots and try and shore (getting them for free) some chicas. I had great success with this method in Rio at the Balcony Bar ...Well, I'm in my 40's and extremely good looking too and I'm hoping to get some freebies also, these pros don't deserve my dinero.

Hahahaha. Good luck out there Tar Heel!

[Tar Heel Bred]

The three clubs you mentioned are the places to go for P4P but if you think you are walking out of there with a girl for free you are dreaming I don't care how young, good looking or american you are dude it isn't going to happen.Guys said the same thing in Rio de Janeiro. Not only did I pull for free (multiple times) they cooked and cleaned for me the next morning.

I like my chances.

[Manizales911]

Guys said the same thing in Rio de Janeiro. Not only did I pull for free (multiple times) they cooked and cleaned for me the next morning.

I like my chances.In the three clubs that you mentioned Brad fucking Pitt couldn't get a freebie, Cartagena isn't Rio. Good luck to you anyway.

[Rainman3]

Guys said the same thing in Rio de Janeiro. Not only did I pull for free (multiple times) they cooked and cleaned for me the next morning.

I like my chances.Attttta boy!

It happens all the time!

Some of the guys have just been paying for so long that they cannot comprehend getting it for free. Just make sure you do not mislead the chicas and are having them thinking they are going to be making some money. I have a friend who used to be very bad about doing this and what results from it is girls who demand the money upfront. Don't let this be the case with you. In my younger days I had a very, very handsome friend and we routinely would cross the border to play in the brothels of Mexico. I can't tell you how many times he scored for free due to his looks, but this was routine for him anywhere he went. Hell, I used to get laid all over San Antonio, Texas just because I was with him!

[Ricker]

Guys said the same thing in Rio de Janeiro. Not only did I pull for free (multiple times) they cooked and cleaned for me the next morning.

I like my chances. Well I got ya beat amigo.

Not only do they cook and clean for me but they usually leave me a tip on the counter before they leave.

I'm crazy good lookin though :)

[Black Page]

Guys said the same thing in Rio de Janeiro. Not only did I pull for free (multiple times) they cooked and cleaned for me the next morning.

I like my chances. If this is your plan, una "casa de putas" is not the place you should go. This is what Elektra, LDV and Pleyclub basically are. If you go to Macy's hoping to get back home with free fashion items, just because you are a smooth talker and you plan to convince vendors, sorry but your chances are extremely low.
Go to discos where girls are not exclusively working girls, namely the strip of discos in Getsemani (around Mr. Babilla), or many others alike.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Well I got ya beat amigo.

Not only do they cook and clean for me but they usually leave me a tip on the counter before they leave.

I'm crazy good lookin though. Not only "crazy good lookin" but can also tie multiple cherry stems with your tongue at the same time. You got to see the chicks lining up for this guy!

[Bologna]

I'm early 20's in shape good looking american. My plan is to hit up the regular clubs first and if they fall through (no chick that is DTF) then to head over the the p4p spots and try and shore (getting them for free) some chicas. I had great success with this method in Rio at the Balcony Bar.

So from my light reading on this thread it appears the best places for me to go to are LDV, Elektra, and Pleyclub. I'm looking for the best looking young girls.

Is there another place I'm missing that I need to hit up?

Thanks! With your agenda I think you are looking at the wrong places. Puta clubs and casas should be the last place you should go to get free pussy. Just wander around el centro or Boca Grande in the supermarkets, shops, (in the streets) etc. And work your charms on the employees or customers.

You can get freebies in ctg, even old dudes can but if your going for the pros they may prefer the old dude rather than young handsome you. I was going around with a young buck once and he was surprised that I was getting all the play. He just couldn't figure it out.

Also be prepared for the unexpected. You may think you got one for free ( no money is ever mentioned ) and you think she really just likes you .. until you try to get rid of her and she won't go until you "pay up". That's a fun scenario.

It'll take work on your part but you got to go for the normal girls ( typically ). If you go near the pro scenes, be prepared to pay.

[Tar Heel Bred]

With your agenda I think you are looking at the wrong places. Puta clubs and casas should be the last place you should go to get free pussy. Just wander around el centro or Boca Grande in the supermarkets, shops, (in the streets) etc. And work your charms on the employees or customers.

You can get freebies in ctg, even old dudes can but if your going for the pros they may prefer the old dude rather than young handsome you. I was going around with a young buck once and he was surprised that I was getting all the play. He just couldn't figure it out.

Also be prepared for the unexpected. You may think you got one for free (no money is ever mentioned) and you think she really just likes you. Until you try to get rid of her and she won't go until you "pay up". That's a fun scenario.

It'll take work on your part but you got to go for the normal girls (typically ). If you go near the pro scenes, be prepared to pay.You must have missed by first post. I plan on hitting the normal clubs first and doing daygame (malls, squares, markets, parks ect) for free poon. But we all know NO ONE is going to be able to get a fuck close every night from from regular clubs and daygame. Thats why you have to have a backup plan (puta clubs & casas). I don't expect to pull a grl every night, although if its anything like Rio, than I like my chances ALOT.

Oh and I would tell the chick before I left with her that I wasnt paying for sex. Did this in Rio and the girls were like thats ok, lets go! SweeT! LOL

[Lusifer69]

Anyone here has any information about this girl?

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=104154&d=1224282048

[Socker]

Hey all,

I've been reading most of the posts on this thread and am definitely interested in going to Cartagena. This will be my first ever erotic vacation and I will be going alone. A little about myself:

Early 20's Chinese American.

5'2.

Senior in College.

Middle Class.

Limited but not too limited budget.

Broke up with my gf (who happens to be latina) of 2 years about 2 months ago. Hence the craving for this vacation.

Thinking about traveling from March 4th to March 11th.

1. Would you recommend me going alone? In terms of safety?

2. How much would I be looking to spend on housing / dining / and getting laid (hope to fuck at least 2 times a day) in one week?

3. How would the weather and party scene (if any) be like during my time of travel?

I have more questions but I do not want to bombard you with all of them at once. I appreciate the help and hoping to get back on a fucking spree.Pusher Bro, I'm a newb to the Columbian forum and recently asked for help from the pros, Pusher, they have better things to do than to help us. They need to take care of the back slapping w / each other and then they are probably screwing the pussy down there. After that they need a siesta, then start all over the next day. Don't expect any help from them even if it is a justifiable question. Most of your questions are not justifiable tho.

I have recently (2 days ago) booked my first trip to So America, Medellin to be exact. I am going to Medellin because ONE guy here told me Medellin is easier for newbs who are interested in P4P. I am interested in P4P (BigTIME) so I am arriving early April and staying at the CB. I am taking no chances w / this special vacation, from the CB I will do serious re con on the P4P stomping grounds. I am also a solo mongerer, I have done a lot of home work so I feel real good about my plan. Regarding your questions.

1. RTFR's I think you will be fine unless your a dummy.

2. RTFR's Excluding hotel, my guess is $200 per day and you will be happy.

3. RTFR's It will probably be hot, and from what I have gathered in my research Columbia is party central.

So Pusher Bro, I know I am not the pro w / the answers but at least I have 5 minutes to try and help out.

You sound like you know how to have fun, RTFR's and you will have even more. Cheers

[Tar Heel Bred]

Anyone have any info for me about renting apartments in Cartagena ans Santa MArta?

Looking to rent for one week in each city.

Looking for something not expensive and good value.

How much should I expect to pay?

[Viajero]

Pusher Bro, I'm a newb to the Columbian forum and recently asked for help from the pros, Pusher, they have better things to do than to help us. They need to take care of the back slapping w / each other and then they are probably screwing the pussy down there. After that they need a siesta, then start all over the next day. Don't expect any help from them even if it is a justifiable question. Most of your questions are not justifiable tho.

I have recently (2 days ago) booked my first trip to So America, Medellin to be exact. I am going to Medellin because ONE guy here told me Medellin is easier for newbs who are interested in P4P. I am interested in P4P (BigTIME) so I am arriving early April and staying at the CB. I am taking no chances w / this special vacation, from the CB I will do serious re con on the P4P stomping grounds. I am also a solo mongerer, I have done a lot of home work so I feel real good about my plan. Regarding your questions.

1. RTFR's I think you will be fine unless your a dummy.

2. RTFR's Excluding hotel, my guess is $200 per day and you will be happy.

3. RTFR's It will probably be hot, and from what I have gathered in my research Columbia is party central.

So Pusher Bro, I know I am not the pro w / the answers but at least I have 5 minutes to try and help out.

You sound like you know how to have fun, RTFR's and you will have even more. CheersCollege Pusher, you will be better off in Medellin than Cartagena. Medellin is much cheaper and the girls are easier to get, you will have much better time. The weather is better in Medellin also, it is not that hot. Also Medellin has better night life and a lot more choices. If you need help in Medellin, send me a private message and I see what I can do for you.

[Tar Heel Bred]

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[Tar Heel Bred]

Alright fellas, I think I'm going to rent an apartment from Lorenzo of [Email address deleted by Admin] Anyone else rented from this guy before?

Also I'm alittle confused about the beaches. Is one beach mostly working girls and there is another for regular people like it is in Rio? Or is it just one main beach everyone goes to?

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[Havahopeful]

My friend that runs an internet cafe found me an apartment in Marina del Rey building for 90, 000 pesos. Not really thrilled with it. Its kind of dirty looking and beaten up. 2 huge pluses though it has a great balcony with a hamock and a view of the Laguito and I have wifi so I can make and receive us calls at no charge! I will probably change it on Friday.

Yesterday I hooked up with a girl I met on Cupid. Always a little too affectionate online made me assume she is a possilbe working girl. We met yesterday during the day. She was dressed more or less the part, but could be just a young girl trying to look sexy.

After a late lunch with her and a walk we went back to the aparment where we went at it for a few hours. No non pro 20 year old should know how to everything sexually she did. She was amazing!

She left a few hours later professing love etc. No talk of money. I know she has a normal job and is in some type of school. Very curious to see how this plays out. I'm already worried I may have a stage 5 clingler on my hands!

Popped into LDV around 11:30 saw some pretty good new talent. A couple girls stood out. But I was much too tired to partkae in anything.

Off to the beach. Anyone intown stop by and visit. I'm mid 30s mediterranean american looking guy.

[John Gault]

My friend that runs an internet cafe found me an apartment in Marina del Rey building for 90, 000 pesos. Not really thrilled with it. Its kind of dirty looking and beaten up. 2 huge pluses though it has a great balcony with a hamock and a view of the Laguito and I have wifi so I can make and receive us calls at no charge! I will probably change it on Friday.

Yesterday I hooked up with a girl I met on Cupid. Always a little too affectionate online made me assume she is a possilbe working girl. We met yesterday during the day. She was dressed more or less the part, but could be just a young girl trying to look sexy.

After a late lunch with her and a walk we went back to the aparment where we went at it for a few hours. No non pro 20 year old should know how to everything sexually she did. She was amazing!

She left a few hours later professing love etc. No talk of money. I know she has a normal job and is in some type of school. Very curious to see how this plays out. I'm already worried I may have a stage 5 clingler on my hands!

Popped into LDV around 11:30 saw some pretty good new talent. A couple girls stood out. But I was much too tired to partkae in anything.

Off to the beach. Anyone intown stop by and visit. I'm mid 30s mediterranean american looking guy. Hey man it is possible she likes you and is sick of the local guys. If you know she has a real job and also goes to school that is a good sign. No matter what you being leary is the path you have to take. Good luck and keep us posted.

[Tar Heel Bred]

My friend that runs an internet cafe found me an apartment in Marina del Rey building for 90, 000 pesos. Not really thrilled with it. Its kind of dirty looking and beaten up. 2 huge pluses though it has a great balcony with a hamock and a view of the Laguito and I have wifi so I can make and receive us calls at no charge! I will probably change it on Friday.

Yesterday I hooked up with a girl I met on Cupid. Always a little too affectionate online made me assume she is a possilbe working girl. We met yesterday during the day. She was dressed more or less the part, but could be just a young girl trying to look sexy.

After a late lunch with her and a walk we went back to the aparment where we went at it for a few hours. No non pro 20 year old should know how to everything sexually she did. She was amazing!

She left a few hours later professing love etc. No talk of money. I know she has a normal job and is in some type of school. Very curious to see how this plays out. I'm already worried I may have a stage 5 clingler on my hands!

Popped into LDV around 11:30 saw some pretty good new talent. A couple girls stood out. But I was much too tired to partkae in anything.

Off to the beach. Anyone intown stop by and visit. I'm mid 30s mediterranean american looking guy. Sup man. I just made a profile on Cupid in preparation for my trip to Cartagena. I'm curious, which chick on there did you link up with?

[Dw1987]

I will be there in couple weeks.

Any updates on Playa Hollywood is the water level going down yet? Thanks for recent pic.

That too and is there any of you know for fact what the chica policy is for Mirador del Laguito by day? And night?

Or you have to pay guards off at night now?

Thanks in advance 8

[Pussyluver]

I will be there in couple weeks.

Any updates on Playa Hollywood is the water level going down yet? Thanks for recent pic.

That too and is there any of you know for fact what the chica policy is for Mirador del Laguito by day? And night?

Or you have to pay guards off at night now?

Thanks in advance 8Reference Mirador Del Laguito, I had a buddy who stayed there less than a month ago and he told the guard refused a bribe and would not let him take the 2 girls he had picked up at LDV to his room. He claims the guard told him they have a camera in the lobby area and he is not allowed to let any of the guests, who do not own a unit in the building, take more than one girl at a time to their rooms. He claims the guard turned down $50. 00 US to let them both in. I recently asked another friend about this new policy at Mirador and he told me Mery is even telling her customers that one girl per guest is the rule in that building. If this is true, I will never stay there. Not that I do a lot of doubles or triples, but I at least want the option should I decide to do it. Anyone else have any idea why they would start such a stupid policy which will discourage some of us from staying there?

[Phreeman69]

What a fantastic town, Cartagena. First, thanks to all the posters who clued me in. Now here's my report.

My flights were screwed up and I arrived around 10:00 PM. The airport is small and newish. No problem. I had gotten pesos from an ATM on a layover in Medellin airport so I hopped a cab, agreeing the amount first (a little extra because of my bags. Fine).

As some veterans recommend, I stayed in a hotel in the old city, Centro Hotel. The room was about 80 USD a night (I'll leave more info in the lodging section of the forum). I recommend staying in the historic part of town. It's beautiful, interesting during the day, and in the middle of things at night.

It just took me a couple calls after searching the internet for a hotel that would allow guests. The hotel desk woman was a little shy but she said no problem, you can have a girl to your room. I took her name, and called back the day before my arrival to confirm my reservation, which they had lost. Anyway checking in I ask the clerk one more time about girls. He says I have to pay for an extra person in the room. WTF! I say I spoke with Tatiana on the phone."Well if you cleared it with Tatiana. No problem." Boy that was easy, but I was glad I knew her name. I continued to be nervous about bringing girls in the whole trip but never ran into any problem. It definitely wasn't a monger hotel, and I was moderately discreet.

By the way, I speak moderately good Spanish. It might be a little harder in Cartagena speaking only English. Obviously you can get what you want, but little glitches may be more irritating to work out.

So I set out on foot to check out Tu Candela, and the two pro spots, Queens and Isis. Tu Candela was rockin', great crowd and music, with a couple working girls with guys. (Isn't it funny how you can spot them immediately while non-mongers are oblivious? It's like we have special glasses)

Both Queens and Isis were boring, but there was a tall, dark local lurking outside of Isis that chatted me up and clued me in to the salida charge for a girl from either of those places (I don't remember the amount but it was steep).

So it's now after midnight and with nothing on offer I take a walk through the clock tower gate, down the long esplanade, and ran into Carmen. She was thin, about 20, and dressed in a short, tight skirt and heels. We chatted and walked while she ate some mango from a street cart. The coastal girls are dark, and less sophisticated (but still dressed pretty fucking hot). She was sweet.

I offered her 100, 000 (about 50 bucks) and she said ok fast enough that I knew I was overpaying. She later told me that if I asked her out again she'd take 70, 000, which probably tells you what the right price was. By the way, I always ask before talking money,"Te gusta besar?" (do you like to kiss) and "Por la boca sin condon?" (BBBJ). A less-than-enthusiastic response is usually a deal killer.

Carmen was plenty enthusiastic. It may have helped that I made her come first, but I think she just enjoys her work. I certainly did. She stayed a couple hours and would have stayed as long as I wanted.

I ran into Carmen every night of my stay, usually in the plaza between the clock gate and the Donde Fidel beer garden. We would have a nice chat, but by then I had moved on to the next.

[Ho Whisperer]

guys,

i'll be making my 5th trip to medellin in march and was looking at spending a few days at the end of my trip in one of the other colombian cities.

looking for some input on which ones might offer a better experience. cartagena, bogota or cali?

i like the idea of ldv in cartagena with freelancers hanging out & the beach. the cali thread gave me the impression p4p would be a little cheaper, but some reviewers stated of a lot of the girls being thicker & less attractive. the bogota thread seemed to be a lot of peeps unhappy with the clubs & drink prices & prices for p4p, although a lot of the girls were reported as being stunners, just asking us type prices.

thanks

[Black Hawk69]

Reference Mirador Del Laguito, I had a buddy who stayed there less than a month ago and he told the guard refused a bribe and would not let him take the 2 girls he had picked up at LDV to his room. He claims the guard told him they have a camera in the lobby area and he is not allowed to let any of the guests, who do not own a unit in the building, take more than one girl at a time to their rooms. He claims the guard turned down $50. 00 US to let them both in. I recently asked another friend about this new policy at Mirador and he told me Mery is even telling her customers that one girl per guest is the rule in that building. If this is true, I will never stay there. Not that I do a lot of doubles or triples, but I at least want the option should I decide to do it. Anyone else have any idea why they would start such a stupid policy which will discourage some of us from staying there?Very simply, the owners of the apartments who actually live on the premises do not want the place to be over run with party people, noise, and theft problems. They want the place to be known as a family type of building. This comes directly from a couple permanent residents of the building that I know very well.

[Zing23]

I'll be making my 5th trip to Medellin in March and was looking at spending a few days at the end of my trip in one of the other colombian cities. Looking for some input on which ones might offer a better experience. Cartagena, Bogota or Cali?If you don't speak fairly good spanish, I would skip Cali and Bogota. Cartagena is a tourist town, organized around separating visitors from their money in return for providing fun activities. Not speaking Spanish is no problem there.

In Cali, the casa Clininca Doctor Amor has lots of beautiful girls of all sizes and shapes, prices starting at 35k pesos for 30 minutes. And you can stay next door at Apt Hotel Del Rio with a gym and pool. And the neighborhood is not too bad, close to everything in Cali.

In Bogota the inexpensive casas are all in sketchy neighborhoods. If you stick to the safer north part of the city, everything is much more costly, including girls.

-zing

[Golfinho]

Anyone else have any idea why they would start such a stupid policy which will discourage some of us from staying there?It's called a Condominium Association. With rules. Made by the unit owners. Just like Condo Associations everywhere in the world. Trying to 'bribe' a 'guy' working the door is not the class move, Pussylover. Anywhere. Find somewhere you can love all the pussy you want. At the same time. And report back.

[Ho Whisperer]

If you don't speak fairly good spanish, I would skip Cali and Bogota. Cartagena is a tourist town, organized around separating visitors from their money in return for providing fun activities. Not speaking Spanish is no problem there.

In Cali, the casa Clininca Doctor Amor has lots of beautiful girls of all sizes and shapes, prices starting at 35k pesos for 30 minutes. And you can stay next door at Apt Hotel Del Rio with a gym and pool. And the neighborhood is not too bad, close to everything in Cali.

In Bogota the inexpensive casas are all in sketchy neighborhoods. If you stick to the safer north part of the city, everything is much more costly, including girls.

-zingThanks Z.

I'm by no means fluent in spanish. But I know enough to get me through my previous solo / accompanied trips to Medellin, Lima, Peru & DR. I can get around town, and make a little small talk with the chicas. The problem is if they mistake me for being fluent and fire off rapid spanish. Then I'm lost until they slow down and repeat.

I'm reading thru all 3 threads at once 4 info.

I get the idea Cartagena is more bars / discos w / freelancers (which I prefer) as opposed to casas.

With Cali being more casas.

Do you know anything about the "Castle Cali"? Found a post from '09 saying this place is like the MDE mansion, as to helping setup guests with girls. The link for it just describes random services offered, not like a hotel website. I will post this in the Cali thread also to try and find out more, as it may belong there.

[Phreeman69]

It was Thursday night and by midnight there was still nothing going on at Queens or Isis. Perhaps there were a dozen girls and handful of guys, but the energy was just very slow. This was the case for these two clubs my whole trip.

Time to head to LDV. It was very easy to get to, about 10 minutes taxi from the old city. You walk up steps from where the taxis wait on the street and there is a courtyard with a couple bars, including LDV. There were about 15 girls hanging out outside and then inside about 25 more, outnumbering the guys three or four-to-one.

I chatted up this light-skinned 19 year old from Medellin. She was thin and showing a lot of skin, tiny shorts unbuttoned and a bare midriff. Unfortunately she only did CBJ; her attitude overall was uptight in fact, so I moved on. There was a very friendly girl in a red dress, also from Medellin, a little curvier and older (25 I think) than is my usual, but I liked her smile. And I think she let me try out a kiss. Somehow I got the impression that she would be under a little time pressure to return to a baby at home, so, well let me see who else is interesting.

I ended up with a pretty girl from Cali, about 21 and thin. She wanted 200, 000 but I told her 150, 000 was the standard rate and when she thought I might move on she said fine.

She was great. Her mouth was wonderful and she loved oral both ways. (It's great when you come up for a breadth and she pushes your head back down) No rush to leave either.

I took her cell and made a date for the next evening. We had a drink and went back to the hotel for another great session. She insisted on 150, 000 again. It was before 11 o'clock so it should be less, but I didn't press it.

My plan for the rest of the night was to collect phone numbers for the following day. I ended up at Elektra which was really hopping. There were probably 30 girls and almost as many guys, but lots of dancing and partying, unlike LDV. Really great energy.

I woke up the next morning with a bunch of phone numbers, none of whom I could remember, so I knew it was time to head to the beach.

[Phreeman69]

Hollywood Beach is not that nice. It's crowded, rocky, and worst of all are the annoying guys trying to hook you up. One followed me around despite my objections. I did everything but push him. He did point out the group of girls working the beach, four cuties sitting with a couple guys.

I was walking away from him when I ran into Annie. She was in a tight knit beach dress, showing off her curves, walking up to use the bathroom.

"Hola." Smile.

"Hola." Smile.

Well aren't you nice. Can I buy you a drink?

We sat in a gated part of the beach where the annoying guy couldn't follow us. She flirted, and I don't think that she knew that I knew, that is until I asked her if she liked to make love, and to do specific things, actually. She wanted 200, 000, then 150, 000, but it was late afternoon and she settled for 100, 000.

Then she did something to my finger in her mouth that took my breadth away. This girl was the best I've ever had. Look for her. She's 31, blondish with freckles, from Bogata. She has a scare on her neck from a car accident and a big tattoo beneath her navel.

Absolutely fantastic in bed. I thought the girl from Cali was a nympho. Annie asked to get on top,"just for a minute," and promptly came twice more. I had to cover her mouth because it was quiet in the hotel at that hour.

I asked her to come back the next morning for a session before heading to the airport. This time she showed up in a white cotton dress and heels. Two hours of unhurried romp. I truly hated to leave. And I've been thinking of my next trip to Colombia since.

[Ho Whisperer]

I'm looking at spending 4 nights in Cartagena, following my 10 day stay in Medellin in March.

What's my best option for moderate price, A / C, decent room & chica friendly.

Hotel or Apartment thru Juan or Mery (not a lot of recent info on hotels in the hotel thread)

By the forum, it looks like El Laguito or Boca Grande is the prime area I need to stay in?

How far are some of the bars and discos that are located in El Centro (Elektra, Mister Babilla, Babar, etc.) from Laguito or Boca Grande?

[Ho Whisperer]

I see I must have wasted my time sending you a bible of information on Cartagena, but it is alright, as I quit sharing information along time ago, but you just happened to be an exception to my rule, so I look at it as a wake up call for me again, to not waste my valuable time or knowledge, as everything you are looking for was in what I sent you.Dude. The info you sent me was great and much appreciated. I've reread it many times. I've crossreferenced the names of bars & other spots you mentioned with the addresses I got from "World traveler 69" Cartagena list and put them into a google map. Just some of the locations that resulted in google maps looked a little off. Hence the inquiry as to how far away some of these spots should be! Your info didn't have addresses. So I'm just covering my bases.

& there's just no recent info on hotels in the hotel thread. A couple of posts in 2010 and the rest is '09 & '08.

No disrespect. I'm just trying to make sure I'm prepared

[Tar Heel Bred]

Dude. The info you sent me was great and much appreciated. I've reread it many times. I've crossreferenced the names of bars & other spots you mentioned with the addresses I got from "World traveler 69" Cartagena list and put them into a google map. Just some of the locations that resulted in google maps looked a little off. Hence the inquiry as to how far away some of these spots should be! Your info didn't have addresses. So I'm just covering my bases.

& there's just no recent info on hotels in the hotel thread. A couple of posts in 2010 and the rest is '09 & '08.

No disrespect. I'm just trying to make sure I'm preparedI'm actually looking for info on the exact same thing. Looking for a decent chica friendly hotel centrally located near the old city and the nighlife.

Can't decide whether or not to try and look for someone that will rent me an apartment for a week. This will run me about 50 bucks a day imo. Or just find a decent hotel for say 30 bucks a night.

[Ricker]

I'm looking at spending 4 nights in Cartagena, following my 10 day stay in Medellin in March.

What's my best option for moderate price, A / C, decent room & chica friendly.

Hotel or Apartment thru Juan or Mery (not a lot of recent info on hotels in the hotel thread)

By the forum, it looks like El Laguito or Boca Grande is the prime area I need to stay in?

How far are some of the bars and discos that are located in El Centro (Elektra, Mister Babilla, Babar, etc.) from Laguito or Boca Grande? Hey amigo, I just got forwarded the same info that Black Hawk sent to you, and you've got more info there than probably anyone else on this board could add to.

Why continue to ask questions of where to stay in Cartagena when the Black Hawk email sums up EVERYTHING including GREAT info of exactly where to stay and find chicas.

What a gift he sent you, and I don't think you realize it.

I know you're excited about your first visit but wow, you got lucky with him deciding to help you out like that.

I've been to Cartagena many times and I still saved his 'guide'/info for my next visit to Cartagena and for my first visit to Santa Marta, invaluable.

Buen Viaje!

[Tar Heel Bred]

Hey amigo, I just got forwarded the same info that Black Hawk sent to you, and you've got more info there than probably anyone else on this board could add to.

Why continue to ask questions of where to stay in Cartagena when the Black Hawk email sums up EVERYTHING including GREAT info of exactly where to stay and find chicas.

What a gift he sent you, and I don't think you realize it.

I know you're excited about your first visit but wow, you got lucky with him deciding to help you out like that.

I've been to Cartagena many times and I still saved his 'guide'/info for my next visit to Cartagena and for my first visit to Santa Marta, invaluable.

Buen Viaje!Could you help me out with some hotels priced around 30 bucks that are chica friendly in Cartagena and Santa Marta. Ill be there for 2 weeks in April.

Thanks

[John Gault]

Hey amigo, I just got forwarded the same info that Black Hawk sent to you, and you've got more info there than probably anyone else on this board could add to.

Why continue to ask questions of where to stay in Cartagena when the Black Hawk email sums up EVERYTHING including GREAT info of exactly where to stay and find chicas.

What a gift he sent you, and I don't think you realize it.

I know you're excited about your first visit but wow, you got lucky with him deciding to help you out like that.

I've been to Cartagena many times and I still saved his 'guide'/info for my next visit to Cartagena and for my first visit to Santa Marta, invaluable.

Buen Viaje! I made a few posts on the CTG board a few years ago as a Newbe to that area and I got the same treatment from Urban Wildlife. He bombarded me with info that made my trip there point and click. Later I sent him a little info on areas that I was familar with. That how this game should work.

[Lusifer69]

Hey guys I m going to Cartagena for the first time in a few weeks. I already have an apt there and I have read all the reports for the last year. But you guys got me intrigued with Black Hawk69 list can anyone forward me the list? I have read a lot of his post but haven't seen any large list like is been mention here.

Thanks.


Hey amigo, I just got forwarded the same info that Black Hawk sent to you, and you've got more info there than probably anyone else on this board could add to.

Why continue to ask questions of where to stay in Cartagena when the Black Hawk email sums up EVERYTHING including GREAT info of exactly where to stay and find chicas.

What a gift he sent you, and I don't think you realize it.

I know you're excited about your first visit but wow, you got lucky with him deciding to help you out like that.

I've been to Cartagena many times and I still saved his 'guide'/info for my next visit to Cartagena and for my first visit to Santa Marta, invaluable.

Buen Viaje!

[Ho Whisperer]

Hey amigo, I just got forwarded the same info that Black Hawk sent to you, and you've got more info there than probably anyone else on this board could add to......Absolutely, I received some very detailed and thorough info that helped sway my decision to check out Cartagena as opposed to Cali this trip. This list will be an invaluable asset for my trip to Cartagena.

Just bought my plane ticket last night to include Cartagena.

Much Respect to Black Hawk for going out of his way to set me up with some good intel!

[Hilltopper]

I'm looking at spending 4 nights in Cartagena, following my 10 day stay in Medellin in March.

What's my best option for moderate price, A /C, decent room & chica friendly.

Hotel or Apartment thru Juan or Mery (not a lot of recent info on hotels in the hotel thread)

By the forum, it looks like El Laguito or Boca Grande is the prime area I need to stay in?

How far are some of the bars and discos that are located in El Centro (Elektra, Mister Babilla, Babar, etc.) from Laguito or Boca Grande? Others may disagree, but IMO the best value is still to rent an apt from either Juan or Mery when it comes to things like good a / see, decent place with amenities, chica friendly and trustworthiness. If you rent from either of them, you'll be staying in El Laguito, which is one of the zones in CTG that you will most likely feel comfortable in if this is your first time to the city. If you're looking to save a few bucks, see if there is a studio or one bedroom available, or share the cost of a two bedroom with a fellow monger.

If you choose to stay in Boca Grande, you will find it more commercialized (shops, restuarants, banks, etc.) and more populated. Boca Grande is another area where you will most likely feel comfortable.

The best way I can answer "how far" is either El Centro or the Old City is to say between the equivalent of $3 to $4 USD each way from or to Laguito. Given the time of night that you would be traveling to a disco, you'll want to hail a taxi.

One thing you can do to gather additional info is to read back through this thread from say 2007 forward. IMO things really haven't changed all that much. Have some prices for things in restuarants, taxis, etc, gone up a little? Sure, but not really that much in local currency the last 3 years. Some guys are going to say prices have gone up more and they'll say especially for the chicas, but if you really spend some time reading posts on this thread from 2007 forward you'll see that they haven't really gone up in local currency as much as some may lead you to believe. You can really get a feel for CTG by spending a hour or so each night reading the various posts until you're up to the current date.

If you go back further than 2007 or so, especially back to the first couple of years of Uribe's first term, then yeah, IMO you'll notice more significant or substantial change.

[Tar Heel Bred]

Others may disagree, but IMO the best value is still to rent an apt from either Juan or Mery when it comes to things like good a / see, decent place with amenities, chica friendly and trustworthiness. If you rent from either of them, you'll be staying in El Laguito, which is one of the zones in CTG that you will most likely feel comfortable in if this is your first time to the city. If you're looking to save a few bucks, see if there is a studio or one bedroom available, or share the cost of a two bedroom with a fellow monger.

If you choose to stay in Boca Grande, you will find it more commercialized (shops, restuarants, banks, etc.) and more populated. Boca Grande is another area where you will most likely feel comfortable.

The best way I can answer "how far" is either El Centro or the Old City is to say between the equivalent of $3 to $4 USD each way from or to Laguito. Given the time of night that you would be traveling to a disco, you'll want to hail a taxi.

One thing you can do to gather additional info is to read back through this thread from say 2007 forward. IMO things really haven't changed all that much. Have some prices for things in restuarants, taxis, etc, gone up a little? Sure, but not really that much in local currency the last 3 years. Some guys are going to say prices have gone up more and they'll say especially for the chicas, but if you really spend some time reading posts on this thread from 2007 forward you'll see that they haven't really gone up in local currency as much as some may lead you to believe. You can really get a feel for CTG by spending a hour or so each night reading the various posts until you're up to the current date.

If you go back further than 2007 or so, especially back to the first couple of years of Uribe's first term, then yeah, IMO you'll notice more significant or substantial change.isn't the apts from juan and mery kinda more on the expensive side?

I think a good deal for an apt rental for a week is like 300-400 (40-60 a night)

[Speedbump]

isn't the apts from juan and mery kinda more on the expensive side?

I think a good deal for an apt rental for a week is like 300-400 (40-60 a night)I am about to rent an apt from Juan for $75. 00 / night. It's more than I wanted to spend, but the apt is really nice. Ocean front, terrace, washer and dryer. There's a lot of down time in CTG. The afternoons are brutally hot. And it's nice to have a place to chill. And I think women are more likely to hang out in a apt.

[Hilltopper]

isn't the apts from juan and mery kinda more on the expensive side?

I think a good deal for an apt rental for a week is like 300-400 (40-60 a night) Tar Heel, in trying to answer your question about the apts from Juan and / or Mery being more on the expensive side, I'd first have to respond that it's all relative and then ask you expensive for whom?

Are those particular apts located in El Laguito expensive for the average working Colombian family? Yes. Are those apts located in a Strata 6 neighborhood in Colombia? Yes. Are those apts a little expensive for the typical starving college student from the States who isn't a trust fund baby? Yes. Are those apts expensive for the typical 30-60 year old middle-class and upward guy from the States (or Canada, the UK, Germany, etc.) who is used to paying anywhere from $80-$250 a night for a comparatively small hotel room if he were to go on a vacation in his home country (especially to a warm weather spot near a large body of water when it's cold where he lives)? No.

So in a nutshell, I guess the answer to your question will differ based on who it is directed toward. I'd say that the majority of the guys on this forum who typically rent from either Juan or Mery are guys who fall within or near that fourth example I gave above. For them, to pay $70-$120 a night for an apt with all the modern conveniences, including cold air conditioning, hot water, a comfortable mattress, a fully equipped kitchen with fridge, coffee maker, eating and drinking utensils, a decent stereo that accomodates their iPod, a TV in the main room and bedrooms, a DVD player to view a movie (pg or x) with a favorita, a balcony overlooking the sea or lagoon, a combination safe to secure certain items, washer / dryer, an iron and ironing board, and the option to have inexpensive maid service or to be left alone, well, I think that's enough and the picture becomes quite clear that those guys profiled as group 4 above come to a resounding conclusion that the apts aren't relatively expensive for them.

Taking my own self back a few decades ago, would my initial reaction been similiar to yours? Well considering that when I was a 19-year old college student from a working class family I paid $40 for a week to stay in a dorm type room in Negril, Jamaica with the following: the mattress was about 4 inches thick and made of foam; the beds were narrow and short; there were a total of 6 to 8 beds in the room so that meant your sleeping (and bangin') quarters were with others, including strangers; there was no air conditioning; there was no indoor shower, but the place was upscale for that time and location as the owner did have a block of ice with pic that he'd share with you when he was around; so yeah, at that stage in life the apts from Juan or Mery would have been more toward the expensive side for me and out-of-my range.

With all that being said, let's consider the range of $40 to $60 a night that you mentioned. If I could get an apt with the amenities I mentioned above for say $70 to $80 a night and then go to the supermarket a buy a week's worth of groceries (fruits, loaf of bread, lunch meat, veggies, eggs, etc.) so that I saved $5 to $15 a day compared to eating 3 meals a day at a restuarant, wouldn't I probably end-up only spending a little more than the guy who got a place (most likely small hotel room) for $40 to $60? Plus I got to sleep and bang in cold air conditioning, shower and shave with hot water in the morning, relax with a sexy chica while listening to tunes ran through a stereo systems from my iPod, enjoy a home-cooked meal cooked by a favorita who then later wants to imitate the porn star positions she witnessed while watching a DVD with me, and wake-up on a comfortable mattress without a crick in my neck. I could elaborate more, but I hope I've listed enough of the advantages that a guy might consider that a great deal for $10 to $20 more a night.

Oh by the way, if $60 or so is within your range or budget for this trip, you may want to contact Mery and ask her about the price and availability of a studio apt, or contact Juan and ask him how much for a one-bedroom during your timeframe. You might just find that you can get something with modern conveniences for just a little more and then make-up the extra cost by saving on your daily food bill and having a big jug of cold water in your fridge. Plus, you'll be able to impress the chicas with your freshly pressed clothes that you ironed before you went out, LOL.

One last thing to note, one of the other advantages you get from renting from Juan or Mery is that you'll be dealing with a person who can communicate to you in English (if that is a plus for you) , and more importantly is someone with honor and trustworthiness who comes in quite handy should you run into a minor problem or have say a medical emergency or something. Lastly, you benefit from knowing that you are renting from a person who comes recommended by many guys from this forum who have travelled before you so that you don't have to stress worrying about all the details or what could go wrong when dealing with a less reputable outfit or person.

Have an enjoyable, safe and memorable (in a positive sense) trip.

HT

[Tar Heel Bred]

Tar Heel, in trying to answer your question about the apts from Juan and / or Mery being more on the expensive side, I'd first have to respond that it's all relative and then ask you expensive for whom?

Are those particular apts located in El Laguito expensive for the average working Colombian family? Yes. Are those apts located in a Strata 6 neighborhood in Colombia? Yes. Are those apts a little expensive for the typical starving college student from the States who isn't a trust fund baby? Yes. Are those apts expensive for the typical 30-60 year old middle-class and upward guy from the States (or Canada, the UK, Germany, etc.) who is used to paying anywhere from $80-$250 a night for a comparatively small hotel room if he were to go on a vacation in his home country (especially to a warm weather spot near a large body of water when it's cold where he lives)? No.

So in a nutshell, I guess the answer to your question will differ based on who it is directed toward. I'd say that the majority of the guys on this forum who typically rent from either Juan or Mery are guys who fall within or near that fourth example I gave above. For them, to pay $70-$120 a night for an apt with all the modern conveniences, including cold air conditioning, hot water, a comfortable mattress, a fully equipped kitchen with fridge, coffee maker, eating and drinking utensils, a decent stereo that accomodates their iPod, a TV in the main room and bedrooms, a DVD player to view a movie (pg or x) with a favorita, a balcony overlooking the sea or lagoon, a combination safe to secure certain items, washer / dryer, an iron and ironing board, and the option to have inexpensive maid service or to be left alone, well, I think that's enough and the picture becomes quite clear that those guys profiled as group 4 above come to a resounding conclusion that the apts aren't relatively expensive for them.

Taking my own self back a few decades ago, would my initial reaction been similiar to yours? Well considering that when I was a 19-year old college student from a working class family I paid $40 for a week to stay in a dorm type room in Negril, Jamaica with the following: the mattress was about 4 inches thick and made of foam; the beds were narrow and short; there were a total of 6 to 8 beds in the room so that meant your sleeping (and bangin') quarters were with others, including strangers; there was no air conditioning; there was no indoor shower, but the place was upscale for that time and location as the owner did have a block of ice with pic that he'd share with you when he was around; so yeah, at that stage in life the apts from Juan or Mery would have been more toward the expensive side for me and out-of-my range.

With all that being said, let's consider the range of $40 to $60 a night that you mentioned. If I could get an apt with the amenities I mentioned above for say $70 to $80 a night and then go to the supermarket a buy a week's worth of groceries (fruits, loaf of bread, lunch meat, veggies, eggs, etc.) so that I saved $5 to $15 a day compared to eating 3 meals a day at a restuarant, wouldn't I probably end-up only spending a little more than the guy who got a place (most likely small hotel room) for $40 to $60? Plus I got to sleep and bang in cold air conditioning, shower and shave with hot water in the morning, relax with a sexy chica while listening to tunes ran through a stereo systems from my iPod, enjoy a home-cooked meal cooked by a favorita who then later wants to imitate the porn star positions she witnessed while watching a DVD with me, and wake-up on a comfortable mattress without a crick in my neck. I could elaborate more, but I hope I've listed enough of the advantages that a guy might consider that a great deal for $10 to $20 more a night.

Oh by the way, if $60 or so is within your range or budget for this trip, you may want to contact Mery and ask her about the price and availability of a studio apt, or contact Juan and ask him how much for a one-bedroom during your timeframe. You might just find that you can get something with modern conveniences for just a little more and then make-up the extra cost by saving on your daily food bill and having a big jug of cold water in your fridge. Plus, you'll be able to impress the chicas with your freshly pressed clothes that you ironed before you went out, LOL.

One last thing to note, one of the other advantages you get from renting from Juan or Mery is that you'll be dealing with a person who can communicate to you in English (if that is a plus for you) , and more importantly is someone with honor and trustworthiness who comes in quite handy should you run into a minor problem or have say a medical emergency or something. Lastly, you benefit from knowing that you are renting from a person who comes recommended by many guys from this forum who have travelled before you so that you don't have to stress worrying about all the details or what could go wrong when dealing with a less reputable outfit or person.

Have an enjoyable, safe and memorable (in a positive sense) trip.

HTYou are correct, I should have clarified. I only plan on spending 1000 excluding airfair for 2 weeks. So I can only really drop 500 on lodging total. I could go over as ill have my credit cards if I must use them.

I don't really need hot water if its blazing hot in Cartagena. I just need a bed and a / see or a really good fan. I'm hopping to find something decent for around 30 a night.

[Hillbilly69]

If your budget is low for Hotel I would stay in El Centro. Right by Bannanas and Plaza Estudiante.

Hotel Las Vegas and Hotel Porvenir, Hotel El Viajero don't ask me prices it was 2 years ago but was very cheap, you could stay there one night and look around for another nearby if you don't like it.

[Tom Power]

. Are those apts expensive for the typical 30-60 year old middle-class and upward guy from the States (or Canada, the UK, Germany, etc.) who is used to paying anywhere from $80-$250 a night for a comparatively small hotel room if he were to go on a vacation in his home country (especially to a warm weather spot near a large body of water when it's cold where he lives)? No.

HTHilltopper that's right on the money. I get your point. This year I went to my regular apartment in laguito. A chica friendly one and it turns out she's been suffering from a verdadera plaga thats the owners words. She also said something about getting a new bed its got one hell of a worn out mattress, anyway $60 a night is what I pay her and no one makes me pay a fee for my chica and its a 4 minute walk from dolce vita and it's 1000 times more comfortable than the casa particular I had to use in Cuba where I had 2 be quiet. I crank the stereo now, and the plaga was cockroaches but I think I'm clear none of them came home with me.

[Ho Whisperer]

Tar Heel, in trying to answer your question about the apts from Juan and / or Mery being more on the expensive side.

To pay $70-$120 a night for an apt with all the modern conveniences, including cold air conditioning, hot water, a comfortable mattress, a fully equipped kitchen with fridge, coffee maker, eating and drinking utensils, a decent stereo that accomodates their iPod, a TV in the main room and bedrooms, a DVD player to view a movie (pg or x) with a favorita, a balcony overlooking the sea or lagoon, a combination safe to secure certain items, washer / dryer, an iron and ironing board, and the option to have inexpensive maid service or to be left alone, well, I think that's enough and the picture becomes quite clear that those guys profiled as group 4 above come to a resounding conclusion that the apts aren't relatively expensive for them. HTI just booked an apartment thru Juan in Laguito for $75 / nt for my stay in March following some advice found on here. Which for me, is a good deal. I'm only down for 5 nts. So in the scheme of things, an extra $10-$20 a night for a place like Hilltopper described suits me better than a cheaper hotel. I'm on vacation and like to be comfortable, and an apartment provides me the oppurtunity to spread out and hang with a chica or 2 if I decide to, in a nice place on the beach without being confined to just a bed and 4 walls in a hotel. IMHO

I usually rent an apartment with some friends when I'm in Peru, and it's always served us well for hanging out and partying at our place.

[Ho Whisperer]

isn't the apts from juan and mery kinda more on the expensive side?

I think a good deal for an apt rental for a week is like 300-400 (40-60 a night) Tar Heel Bred. I had sent off emails to Mery and Juan Tuesday inquiring about apartments for my dates in March.

Mery had a 1bdr-$70US, & 2bdr-$100US.

Juan had 1bdr-$65US, & a few 2bdr-$75US (1person) David was booked.

[Ho Whisperer]

You are correct, I should have clarified. I only plan on spending 1000 excluding airfair for 2 weeks. So I can only really drop 500 on lodging total. I could go over as ill have my credit cards if I must use them.

I don't really need hot water if its blazing hot in Cartagena. I just need a bed and a / see or a really good fan. I'm hopping to find something decent for around 30 a night. Tar.

This was pulled from another members post regarding some cheaper accommodations in Cartagena. Also another member had recommended "Hotel Playa" at $40 / nt in Boca Grande. Might be what your looking for.

[QUOTE=Kyle Fox; 1119008]I spent 6 days in Bocagrande in early December. Here's my report.

I stayed at bargain hotel first 2 night, Hotel Crisor on Cra 3. It is only 42K per night and no chica charge if she is there less than 3 hours. Night security guard will try to charge you but just remind him you know the policy. Run is small and basic but it has A / C, wireless internet and small TV (though mine didn't work so well). No hot water if that's important to you.

The last 4 nights I stayed at Hotel Bocagrande on Cra 2, the main strip with all the shopping stores. The gave me a multiple night discount for 4 nights and paying in advance. 112K for 1 person or 153K for 2 people (no hassles regardless if your chicas changed regularly). This room was larger, modern flat screen TV, balcony out back, newer furniture, A / C, wireless Internet, but again no hot water. Place also has decent restaurant onsite.

[Rainman3]

You are correct, I should have clarified. I only plan on spending 1000 excluding airfair for 2 weeks. So I can only really drop 500 on lodging total. I could go over as ill have my credit cards if I must use them.

I don't really need hot water if its blazing hot in Cartagena. I just need a bed and a / see or a really good fan. I'm hopping to find something decent for around 30 a night.For the life of me I cannot understand why, if your budget is so tight that you would choose Cartagena, the most expensive city in all of Colombia. Two weeks on a $1000 USD, good luck bro and be sure to pack an old copy of Penthouse so you have something to entertain yourself. IMHO your choosing the wrong city based on your budget!

[Tar Heel Bred]

Now that is what I am talking about ! You are on vacation, and if money is such as big issue that you cannot afford to spend $75.00 dollars a night for a luxury type of apartment for a short stay, then you have no business going on vacation. This was one of the reasons I tried to help you out Ho Whisperer, because I did not think you were a cheap ass like Tar Heel Bred. If he only has a thousand dollars to go on vacation to Cartagena for two weeks, he does not belong on vacation, especially to a city such as Cartagena, and he should be trying to find a better job, or picking up a second job so he can AFFORD to go on vacation, and be able to enjoy it.Thank God everyone is not like Blackhawk and that there is actually helpful non condescending people on this forum. Who are you to tell people where and how they should go on vacation? Grow up buddy.

Hillbilly and HoWhisper thanks again for the usual info you provided!

[John Gault]

Now that is what I am talking about ! You are on vacation, and if money is such as big issue that you cannot afford to spend $75.00 dollars a night for a luxury type of apartment for a short stay, then you have no business going on vacation. This was one of the reasons I tried to help you out Ho Whisperer, because I did not think you were a cheap ass like Tar Heel Bred. If he only has a thousand dollars to go on vacation to Cartagena for two weeks, he does not belong on vacation, especially to a city such as Cartagena, and he should be trying to find a better job, or picking up a second job so he can AFFORD to go on vacation, and be able to enjoy it.Just because a guy works at Walmart and only has $1, 000 to spend in CTG for two weeks doesn't mean He should have to stay home and jerk off.

He can at the airport walk toward the street so the taxi will cost less. He can bring cans of tuna fish with him so he won't spend any money on food.

He can hang outside of LDV and meet the girls there so He won't have to spend money on drinks.

He can drink tap water instead of bottled water.

He can argue with the girls to get the lowest possible price, then after the session He will not tip the girl no matter if even a GFE was provided.

He can stay at the El Conquestador so his room will be cheap.

He can stay away from the Playa so He won't have to pay Tony his tribute.

The most important thing left for him to do would be to find a guy like yourself and hang with him and when the check comes He can go to the bathroom. I'm sure you won't mind carrying a poor Monger.

Remember, it is better to give than receive.

[Doubt98]

You are correct, I should have clarified. I only plan on spending 1000 excluding airfair for 2 weeks. So I can only really drop 500 on lodging total. I could go over as ill have my credit cards if I must use them.

I don't really need hot water if its blazing hot in Cartagena. I just need a bed and a / see or a really good fan. I'm hopping to find something decent for around 30 a night. No matter where you fall on this debate you have to respect a man for sticking to a budget.

[El Vagabundo]

Last night I was walking, or I should say hobbling along with my crutches. I was moving slow as this was the first time in months I was out at night walking. I was heading to a friends house for a little party and some Mexican food. Just as I passed the curve I heard some very loud popping sounds. At first I thought it was firecrackers. I turned around and directly behind me, like 30 or 40 feet, there was a silver pickup truck. The truck was pulling out of the parking lot on the same side of the street as me. It was straddling the side walk, on its way to making a right turn. Pop, Pop, Pop.

People were running, glass was flying and that was when I figured there was gun play at hand. Smoke was coming out of the shattered windows of the truck. I could see into the now broken passenger side window. There was a street light close by and I saw smoke engulfing the inside of the pick up.

I could not tell who was firing, whether it was coming from inside the truck or out side. Sounded like 4 or 5 shots and they did not all sound alike. There could have been several shooters.

One of the street guys fled past me holding his hand and blood was everywhere. It looked like he was shot in the hand. A split second later more shots rang out and some one pushed me to the ground. I guess he thought this was for my own good. He saw the crutches but flogged me down anyway. I was ok, just a little more banged up.

Every thing went silent. It was a little surreal. I laid low while looking for more shooters. All around me were people hiding. Hiding around building corners, hiding behind planters or on the ground, pressing their bodies as low as they could. I rose to me feet and surveyed the situation. As I was getting a fix on the truck, all of a sudden it started up. Wheels screeching, it popped into gear and roared away just past me. There were 3 or 4 men in the truck, it was one of those 4 door Toyota models. A pair of police officers happen to be cruising by on a motorcycle no more that 5 seconds behind the pick up truck and gave chase.

At that point people were just milling about. Since this is not my first gun fight / hit I have seen in Colombia, I decided the best course of action at this point was to leave and go eat some Mexican food. I stayed at my friend's house for a few hours, the food was great. I headed back home around 10:00. As I passed on my way home, there were all kinds of police and investigators working the scene. They had it all taped off just like CSI Miami!

I was very happy I did not get shot and it looked like no one was dead. At least I did not see any body's on the ground. I do not know what happened to the pick up truck with the men. I do not know if they were the targets, the shooters or just a group of drunken Colombians playing with their guns. I am sure that I will read all about it in today's paper.

Life here in Colombia continues to be, well how do I say, eventful!

The body count continues.

The Vagabundo

[Tar Heel Bred]

Just because a guy works at Walmart and only has $1, 000 to spend in CTG for two weeks doesn't mean He should have to stay home and jerk off.

He can at the airport walk toward the street so the taxi will cost less. He can bring cans of tuna fish with him so he won't spend any money on food.

He can hang outside of LDV and meet the girls there so He won't have to spend money on drinks.

He can drink tap water instead of bottled water.

He can argue with the girls to get the lowest possible price, then after the session He will not tip the girl no matter if even a GFE was provided.

He can stay at the El Conquestador so his room will be cheap.

He can stay away from the Playa so He won't have to pay Tony his tribute.

The most important thing left for him to do would be to find a guy like yourself and hang with him and when the check comes He can go to the bathroom. I'm sure you won't mind carrying a poor Monger.

Remember, it is better to give than receive.This is not a "mongoring" trip for me. I'm not even a monger. I have only paid for sex once in my life and that was at The Del Rey in Costa Rica. I have been to Mexico, Brasil, and Costa Rica. In the places I usually hookup with 2 regular girls and one or two working girls (for free on nights I'm leaving the club empty handed) in a week to two week span.

This like all my trips are to soak up the sun, and to see another part of the world. I'm not on vacation to fuck prostitutes. Although I'm not prejudice and won't discriminate if the chick is hot.

The p4p spots are last on my daily agenda if on my agenda at all. During the day I like to meet girls working in the Malls, the beach, walking around the parks and squares, or at the University. And during the night at regular clubs. Then if all that fails and I'm faced with the option of going home empty handed I head towards the p4p spots looking to "shore" (swoop pros and semi pros for free)

But Blackhawk you have zero right to be telling people what kind of vacation they should be going on. We all have different preferences and come from different walks of life. I'm sure when I get done with grad school and I'm 45 years old ill have 2-3 grand to drop my my trips, but as a 24 yr old working his way through college that is not the case right now. Doesn't make me cheap, it just means I have a tighter budget than most jerk off.

[Golfinho]

We all want to go and enjoy a vacation, but if you have less than seventy five dollars a day to spend, you should not be going anywhereThanks for keeping it real. True as it gets and hope this is the end of more wasted space here. About all that can be said about where the women are in CTG has already been said.

[Manizales911]

Just because a guy works at Walmart and only has $1, 000 to spend in CTG for two weeks doesn't mean He should have to stay home and jerk off.

He can at the airport walk toward the street so the taxi will cost less. He can bring cans of tuna fish with him so he won't spend any money on food.

He can hang outside of LDV and meet the girls there so He won't have to spend money on drinks.

He can drink tap water instead of bottled water.

He can argue with the girls to get the lowest possible price, then after the session He will not tip the girl no matter if even a GFE was provided.

He can stay at the El Conquestador so his room will be cheap.

He can stay away from the Playa so He won't have to pay Tony his tribute.

The most important thing left for him to do would be to find a guy like yourself and hang with him and when the check comes He can go to the bathroom. I'm sure you won't mind carrying a poor Monger.

Remember, it is better to give than receive.Good advise John with the exception of drinking tap water in a third world country, a well traveled guy like you knows better than that. My advise would be for him to wait until he has saved up $1003. And buy a six pack of bottled water at the super mercado, hahaha.

[LuckyEddie]

College Pusher, you will be better off in Medellin than Cartagena. Medellin is much cheaper and the girls are easier to get, you will have much better time. The weather is better in Medellin also, it is not that hot. Also Medellin has better night life and a lot more choices. If you need help in Medellin, send me a private message and I see what I can do for you.Wow. Nothing could be further from the truth. Don't mean to pick on you sir but I have a read a few posts here with guys reporting one needs $300-$500 a day minimum to do Cartagena. That is complete and utter bullshit. One could say you need MORE to do Medellin if you go to (insert Fase II, Loutron, Luna Lanera). All of which cost more or the same as LDV, Restuarants cost MORE in Medellin if you go to El Santisimo, El Cielo, La Provencia.

But would anyone believe me in that there are only just 3 choices for food lodging and broads in Medellin as listed above?

The bottom line is this is Colombia. Colombians live here. They do not have alot of money. And even though most parts of Cartagena are touristy and the poor Colombian workers live mostly out side the center there are still choices for cheaper meals and hotels. There are Hostals in Cartagena where back packers who have next to no money stay. They find inexpensive restaurants.

So, this means that you will always have the choices to go that low if you choose. Like playing BlackJack at a $5. 00 table but you are a $50-$100 a hand player. When you are on a cold streak you can drop to 5 bucks a hand and ride it out until the deck or whatever is in your favor.

TarHeel Bread. You got a $1, 000 for a week not including air? Going to a third world country? You say you shoop or swoop girls for free and you only pay putas as a last resort or back up? Bro. You've got sufficient money if you eat normal and stay at a place that's like $USD65 a night (125K). Today COP is 1907 to the 1USD. That 1, 900, 000COP minus 750K for the 6 nights at the hotel and minus 150K for back and forth to the airport and you've got 1, 000, 000 that's 166K a day to blow.

If you are not paying for top notch, high priced hookers every day and if you start off drinking in your place before you go out you could feasibly spend under 150K a day.

High end Colombian owned (that's the key, not the gringos who own who are looking to fleece other gringos) hotels in Medellin cost over $USD150 a night. I would be an ass if I told you that was your only choice and that it is too expensive and stay home.

People who think $300-$500 USD a day minimum in Cartagena need to lay off the glue. This ain't Paris and not everybody vacations like Motley Crue.

Just remember who your audience is when you ask some of these questions. You got guys here answering you who only stay in top of the line gringo owned penthouse apartments and pay for sex 3-4 times a day, while eating a ton and drinking a ton and maybe even indulging in the green and / or the white, splashing money around to impress the ladies because they have 20, 30, 40 years and 60, 70, 80 kilos on the girls.

I see regular Joes in their 20s and 30s come down and get laid for free all the time.

You go down and have a great time, feel it out for yourself. Bring your street smarts and your camera and report back pronto.

[Tom Power]

I used to be really out-going with fellow gringos in Cartagena now I try and avoid them. It's sad but many gringos show up down here thinking that 200 bucks a day or whatever will be enough and when they realize that the girls won't go for less than 200K the first thing they do is free load off me. Sit in my tent, drink my beers, I've met some real chislers down there, some gringos are worse than the vendedors. The problem with Cartagena is that dolce vita and elektra are only a 5 minute cab or walk from your apartment / hotel once a girls got you off she can't resist the urge to go find another guy its just so easy she actually starts to worry that maybe she's missing another guy because she's still with you the girls especially the top girls they get into a frenzy when their away from their perch at elektra and dolcevita for any length of time. If laguito why el centro werent so close maybe you'd get great GFE like Medellin / Bogota because in big cities a girl dreads the half hour cab ride back to the club. Oh yeah one other thing. Costenas are fat and ugly for the most part and dark skinned, at any given time theres only about a couple dozen really hot paisas working the circuit none of them are really interested in TLN if that's your thing its not mine anymore because even if you arrange it before hand she doesn't want to be there she's missing out on 800K thats the average take of a really hot paisa everynight. You can see why going for less than 200K doesn't go with her plans.

Cartagena is expensive.

Example of a day:

100k per night for my apartment its a dump 150k is what most pay.

5k in the morning to taxi to the atm to get more money.

50k for beer and chips for the cooler, ice too.

1k to the kid who packs the bags at olympica.

5 k to taxi back (if you piggy back on a moto its only 2k but you got to put the lice ridden helmet on or pay 10k to the cops)

2k to the doorman to carry the shit up or 2k to the deaf beggar who hangs out front all the time.

20k to the muchacha to clean the dirty sheets and towels and she's going to eat from your fridge at lunch.

20k to tony for the carpa.

30k to the massage girl.

10k for the fruit lady.

20k for the vallenato guys.

20k for some working girls almuerzo.

30k for your almuerzo because the kid who goes to get it at mcdonalds keeps the change or uses a taxi to get it.

10k to those guys in the wheel chair or the creepy broad with the crutches or the ms guy under the tree.

20k in miscellaneous junk like gaffas, collares, CDs, propinas,

200k if she's hot 150k if she's lame for the hooker you take back to apartment for an after-nooner.

10k for her taxi because no-matter what deal you made she's going to beg for it.

20k for a few more beers at the beach from tony because the coolers empty. A few of those he'll drink on you.

Then a much needed siesta. That's free.

6k for the taxi to the torre reloj in front of tu candela to meet your girl pro, semi or non.

3k for a beer from the urchins.

3k in go-away money while waking in el centro.

3k for her smokes when she arrives.

3k for another beer they're small.

120k for dinner at Quebracho or Enoteca don't bother with La Vitrola they won't let you in with her. It could be more expensive if you don't steer her away from the langostinos.

20k to cover charge so you can hang-out at tu candela for a while / same dif if its Cafe del Mar.

30k for a few henikens for urself there at 8k a pop.

10k in taxi money for her to go home if she's playing innocent girl or go to work if she's a pro and you've already done her.

6k taxi back to laguito and dolce vita.

Don't even think of stepping in La perla.

30k in beers before you find a girl you like.

3k for her smokes outside.

6k to taxi to your apartment they always ask because its hard walking 2 blocks in heels.

3k for the Smirnoff Ice in your fridge for her / you got to offer something.

200k for her services.

Now its 3am and your spent but a little voice says why not check out elektra before going to sleep.

6k taxi to take you and her there.

3k for smokes for her before you enter.

2k in go-away money for the urchins.

20k for her double shot of what-ever then she vanishes.

50k in drinks for you and your pizza outside in the jardin and what ever drinks your next broad wants.

6k taxi home.

Thats 1. 1 million pesos.

[Tom Power]

The rest of the shots.

[Tar Heel Bred]

The joke of the day, and possibly the week, month, and year. As here you are on a forum dealing with prostitution. Take your penniless ass somewhere else, because you just made yourself out to be the joke of all jokes with this post of yours.Where else would I find info on chica friendly hotels and places to go to try and pick up working girls for free?

Don't find that info in the tourist guide books.

[Tar Heel Bred]

Wow. Nothing could be further from the truth. Don't mean to pick on you sir but I have a read a few posts here with guys reporting one needs $300-$500 a day minimum to do Cartagena. That is complete and utter bullshit. One could say you need MORE to do Medellin if you go to (insert Fase II, Loutron, Luna Lanera). All of which cost more or the same as LDV, Restuarants cost MORE in Medellin if you go to El Santisimo, El Cielo, La Provencia.

But would anyone believe me in that there are only just 3 choices for food lodging and broads in Medellin as listed above?

The bottom line is this is Colombia. Colombians live here. They do not have alot of money. And even though most parts of Cartagena are touristy and the poor Colombian workers live mostly out side the center there are still choices for cheaper meals and hotels. There are Hostals in Cartagena where back packers who have next to no money stay. They find inexpensive restaurants.

So, this means that you will always have the choices to go that low if you choose. Like playing BlackJack at a $5. 00 table but you are a $50-$100 a hand player. When you are on a cold streak you can drop to 5 bucks a hand and ride it out until the deck or whatever is in your favor.

TarHeel Bread. You got a $1, 000 for a week not including air? Going to a third world country? You say you shoop or swoop girls for free and you only pay putas as a last resort or back up? Bro. You've got sufficient money if you eat normal and stay at a place that's like $USD65 a night (125K). Today COP is 1907 to the 1USD. That 1, 900, 000COP minus 750K for the 6 nights at the hotel and minus 150K for back and forth to the airport and you've got 1, 000, 000 that's 166K a day to blow.

If you are not paying for top notch, high priced hookers every day and if you start off drinking in your place before you go out you could feasibly spend under 150K a day.

High end Colombian owned (that's the key, not the gringos who own who are looking to fleece other gringos) hotels in Medellin cost over $USD150 a night. I would be an ass if I told you that was your only choice and that it is too expensive and stay home.

People who think $300-$500 USD a day minimum in Cartagena need to lay off the glue. This ain't Paris and not everybody vacations like Motley Crue.

Just remember who your audience is when you ask some of these questions. You got guys here answering you who only stay in top of the line gringo owned penthouse apartments and pay for sex 3-4 times a day, while eating a ton and drinking a ton and maybe even indulging in the green and / or the white, splashing money around to impress the ladies because they have 20, 30, 40 years and 60, 70, 80 kilos on the girls.

I see regular Joes in their 20s and 30s come down and get laid for free all the time.

You go down and have a great time, feel it out for yourself. Bring your street smarts and your camera and report back pronto.Some of these guys just are grumpy and mad that a regular young joe shmo can come to Colombia and pull hot ass without paying for it.

And no its a 1000 budget for 2 weeks not 1. I'm going to have fun, no doubt.

Like you said you can do Cartagena on the cheap no problem. Stay in budget hotels and hostels for 10-20 bucks. Eat at cheap local shops or street vender's, and buy cheap alcohol before going to a more pricey club, thats even if you go to a pricey club at all.

[Viajero]

Wow. Nothing could be further from the truth. Don't mean to pick on you sir but I have a read a few posts here with guys reporting one needs $300-$500 a day minimum to do Cartagena. That is complete and utter bullshit. One could say you need MORE to do Medellin if you go to (insert Fase II, Loutron, Luna Lanera). All of which cost more or the same as LDV, Restuarants cost MORE in Medellin if you go to El Santisimo, El Cielo, La Provencia.

But would anyone believe me in that there are only just 3 choices for food lodging and broads in Medellin as listed above?

The bottom line is this is Colombia. Colombians live here. They do not have alot of money. And even though most parts of Cartagena are touristy and the poor Colombian workers live mostly out side the center there are still choices for cheaper meals and hotels. There are Hostals in Cartagena where back packers who have next to no money stay. They find inexpensive restaurants.

So, this means that you will always have the choices to go that low if you choose. Like playing BlackJack at a $5. 00 table but you are a $50-$100 a hand player. When you are on a cold streak you can drop to 5 bucks a hand and ride it out until the deck or whatever is in your favor.

TarHeel Bread. You got a $1, 000 for a week not including air? Going to a third world country? You say you shoop or swoop girls for free and you only pay putas as a last resort or back up? Bro. You've got sufficient money if you eat normal and stay at a place that's like $USD65 a night (125K). Today COP is 1907 to the 1USD. That 1, 900, 000COP minus 750K for the 6 nights at the hotel and minus 150K for back and forth to the airport and you've got 1, 000, 000 that's 166K a day to blow.

If you are not paying for top notch, high priced hookers every day and if you start off drinking in your place before you go out you could feasibly spend under 150K a day.

High end Colombian owned (that's the key, not the gringos who own who are looking to fleece other gringos) hotels in Medellin cost over $USD150 a night. I would be an ass if I told you that was your only choice and that it is too expensive and stay home.

People who think $300-$500 USD a day minimum in Cartagena need to lay off the glue. This ain't Paris and not everybody vacations like Motley Crue.

Just remember who your audience is when you ask some of these questions. You got guys here answering you who only stay in top of the line gringo owned penthouse apartments and pay for sex 3-4 times a day, while eating a ton and drinking a ton and maybe even indulging in the green and / or the white, splashing money around to impress the ladies because they have 20, 30, 40 years and 60, 70, 80 kilos on the girls.

I see regular Joes in their 20s and 30s come down and get laid for free all the time.

You go down and have a great time, feel it out for yourself. Bring your street smarts and your camera and report back pronto. LuckyEd, you are one of my favorite posters here, and I enjoy reading your posts. As a matter of fact, I am not into street walkers or cheap casas, unfortunately I have an expensive taste when it comes to women. When the urge arises I tend to hit places like Loutron, Energy, Face Dos, or I wait for the right opportunity to hit it with a non pro that I sometimes meet in metro or supermarket or bus stops etc. That's all about my mongering here.

As for the young college man, I was just trying to tell him that his limited budget will suit him better in Medellin rather than tourist full Cartagena, and in my opinion, it is way more expensive than Medellin.

[Speedbump]

Last October (2010) I found a fare from Boston to CTG for $240. 00 + $50. 00 For luggage. I didn't even think about it. I bought the ticket. Then the required research began. In September and November CTG gets 5 inches of rain. In October they get almost 10. But I'm a New Englander. I'm used to shitty weather. At times the streets in El Laguito were flooded so badly, you had to take a taxi. Then the state elections took place and the Bars were closed Saturday and Sunday. It was still no problem getting laid.

I could write a page about how nice it was to deal with Juan Ventura. But it's been said before. I'll let it suffice to say that he's a gentleman, and rented a very nice apt to me for $60. 00 USD / night.

In CTG I like Elektra. If you can't close a deal with a broad, and you walk away, The whole bar knows about it.

I'm about to turn 58 I'm overweight balding, and I'm not ugly. But I'm not handsome. All I can say for myself is. That l Can pretend to be a gentleman when it suites my purpose. That's very important when dealing with Latinas. When I set my sights on a woman. I don't rush. I make sure she knows that I'm looking at her. When there is a waitress near her, I approach and say "Una traiga para la dama" (A drink for the lady) And I tip the waitress A little more than is customary. (12. 15%). Then you are required to ask the following.

Where are you from? = De donde estas?

How old are you? Or they say How many years do you have? = Cuantos anos tienes (pronounced anyos, If you say anos your asking how many anuses she has)

And most Important Do you have children? Tienes Ninos (ninyos)

I spend a little time with her. I make sure she doesn't have any annoying habits.

If it's a go: I invite her to my apt. They always say yes. And I immediately ask How Much? I always counter offer. It sets the stage for future negotiations. At Elektra 150, 000 for a desirable women is about right. If you have certain needs, now would be the time to discuss them.

Getting back to the subject at hand. After travel and lodging expenses. I spend about $150. 00 / day I'm heading to CTG in a couple of weeks. If anything is different, I'll be sure to post it.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Good advise John with the exception of drinking tap water in a third world country, a well traveled guy like you knows better than that. My advise would be for him to wait until he has saved up $1003. And buy a six pack of bottled water at the super mercado, hahaha.Chichipato Tar Heel, good advice here! Spend the 3mil for a gallon of Brisa and do not even use the tap water to brush your teeth with. Put it this way, then you will save about $40 on all the pepto bismo, immodium and toilet paper you would have had to buy. My Paisa friends tell me over and over again that the water in MDE is the best in Colombia but I don't take their word for it for even a second and fuck up my whole trip. Fuck that.

[Golfinho]

Some of these guys just are grumpy and mad that a regular young joe shmo can come to Colombia and pull hot ass without paying for it.

And no its a 1000 budget for 2 weeks not 1. I'm going to have fun, no doubt.Still on the job, officer tar hell?

[LuckyEddie]

That is what he has for 2 weeks!2 weeks? Tarheel stay home.

[LuckyEddie]

I am once again going to say fuck you. How many times have you been to Cartagena dipshit? As far as I can tell you are a Medellin monger. Before you open your cocksuckers you might want to check the cost of buying a bottle of Old Parr in one of the discos. It is 250 pesos. Who the hell wants to sit in one place all night, as I like to bar hop, so that means buying a couple of bottles, so there you are up to 500 pesos, and I must prefer to buy a bottle as I am not a cheap fuck like possibly you are, or some of the others on the board here, and I am one who shares my bottle. Ask John Gault or Youcan, who have partied with me on numerous occasions. Then you have the cost of your girl or girls, and maybe breakfast with her in morning.

During the day I like to hangout on the beach everyday, so I buy some beers, some drinks, might buy some food, a massage for me and / or possibly for a girl or girls. There goes another one hundred dollars before you know it. Then if I want the company of a girl, there goes more money.

Also you have taxi fares, and miscellaneous expenses.

Do not fucking tell me to layoff the glue fuckhead, as I live in reality, and I have been going to Cartagena since the late 90's so I know what the fuck I am talking about, because I live it.

Now I know you know John Gault, so shoot him a personal message if you think I am so full of shit, or shut your cocksuckers up, or come to Cartagena and walk in my shoes, or the shoes of say Youcan. I thought you were one of the people on the board with a half a brain, but I guess I was wrong on that one. Don't assume this guy is you. All of you. That is your mistake. He knows he is on a budget. He is not looking to tip every gamine nor is he looking to do a TLN with the top puta at LDV. He will not be going to the club's VIP section with P Diddy and splurging on Liters of 12 Year Old Old Parr, the preferred whisky of Traquetos and mafiosos.

Not everyone there is going the same route as you guys and Mr Shwooper made that clear. You all have pointed out how much things cost. Look at Tom Power's post. He walks down the street and hands out money to everyone.

You've been going to CTG since the 90s? I know a back packer who has been going since 2003, about 34 years old by now stays at a Hostal for backpackers and he does Cartagena on less than $50 bucks (not including his room) a day and gets laid for the price of buying lunch and a media of rum with cokes. And he is not the only one. These guys are not drinking Old Parr, nor do they even know who Tony is. They are not there in luxury, tipping the homeless like Tony Soprano.

How much does a media of Guaro cost outside of the hooker clubs, in a normal joint? Licorera? You don't reference that and that is what this guy is looking to know. Not how much the limo ride from the pent house to the Hot Tub costs.

Colombians go on vacation to CTG from other parts of Colombia. You think they are spending $USD500 or COP 1 millone a day? That is where my reference to glue comes in.

BH69. You are a good guy, but you seem a bit pissed.

[LuckyEddie]

Some of these guys just are grumpy and mad that a regular young joe shmo can come to Colombia and pull hot ass without paying for it.

And no its a 1000 budget for 2 weeks not 1. I'm going to have fun, no doubt.

Like you said you can do Cartagena on the cheap no problem. Stay in budget hotels and hostels for 10-20 bucks. Eat at cheap local shops or street vender's, and buy cheap alcohol before going to a more pricey club, thats even if you go to a pricey club at all.2 weeks? I would reconsider or get ready for spending a few nights taking it really, really easy. Pulling ass for cheap or almost free happens but mostly for younger and in shape guys. My old neighbor did CTG for a week last year and came back with all types of photos. This Colombian lady doesn't have 2 nickels to rub together. There is no way she spent more than 100K pesos a day.

You will be able to gauge your expenses. Just make sure you have enough to get home and pay the airport tax. If you call a few hostals or search the web for Hostal guides they will advise you as to where cheaper eats and attractions are. That stuff is not available on this board, sorry,

Go and have a great time take it all in and when you get back to your home country tell all your friends how awesome CTG is, how easy it is to pull ass and how everyone should check it out. After all it is the safest place in all of Colombia. Even cruise ships stop there!

[LuckyEddie]

LuckyEd, you are one of my favorite posters here, and I enjoy reading your posts. As a matter of fact, I am not into street walkers or cheap casas, unfortunately I have an expensive taste when it comes to women. When the urge arises I tend to hit places like Loutron, Energy, Face Dos, or I wait for the right opportunity to hit it with a non pro that I sometimes meet in metro or supermarket or bus stops etc. That's all about my mongering here.

As for the young college man, I was just trying to tell him that his limited budget will suit him better in Medellin rather than tourist full Cartagena, and in my opinion, it is way more expensive than Medellin.Viajero you are a class act. Thanks for the civil response. I neglected to see that he only had a grand for 2 weeks. But either way it was always clear to me that he was not expecting much. We all knew he was on a tight budget. And was not really going to monger and splash bucks, but try his luck at getting freebies. He has his sights set on CTG.

There is no reason why all here should assume he is going their route, especially since he made that clear.

Me? I spend a ton of money as well. But I have the sense to recognize that not everyone is going to spend as much as me. I am not the type of guy to go on a dinner date and have practically exact change for that date in my wallet. But this guy is. Does that mean he shouldn't go to CTG?

[Dw1987]

Wow you guys are big spenders. 50k for beach girls if you bypass Tony. Take your own soft cooler drink 3xs as much and still save 100k pesos over drinking Tonys beers.

But I hand them out to single girls and they are very grateful.

Find a tout by the clock tower and get same quality you would get from LDV and Electra for 100k pesos tln.

Won't argue with alot of those numbers but I don't do GFE's with putas so I don't buy them anything to speak of.

I spend same in Cartagena or less than I do in Mde and been going there for 13 years.

[LuckyEddie]

But not everyone does.


I used to be really out-going with fellow gringos in Cartagena now I try and avoid them. It's sad but many gringos show up down here thinking that 200 bucks a day or whatever will be enough and when they realize that the girls won't go for less than 200K the first thing they do is free load off me. Sit in my tent, drink my beers, I've met some real chislers down there, some gringos are worse than the vendedors.

Cartagena is expensive.

Example of a day: see orig postThats 1. 1 million pesos. This actually sound like my budget but I spend much more on dinner, more on lunch, more on the room and I go to La Perla.

But for this guy on a tight budget I see:

Beers:


50k for beer and chips for the cooler, ice too. (Thats about 20Beers)

And after drinking 50K worth of beers purchased at the liquor store.

20k for a few more beers at the beach from tony because the coolers empty. A few of those he'll drink on you. (24 beers)

3k for a beer from the urchins. (25)

30k for a few henikens for urself there at 8k a pop. (28 beers)

30k in beers before you find a girl you like. (31 beers)

3k for another beer they're small. (32)

50k in drinks for you and your pizza outside in the jardin and what ever drinks your next broad wants. (not even counting this) Comment: Not every one buys 32 beers every day. That's 186K in Beers and I'm sure I missed a few


10k for her taxi because no-matter what deal you made she's going to beg for it.

6k for the taxi to the torre reloj in front of tu candela to meet your girl pro, semi or non.

6k taxi to take you and her there.

6k taxi home.

10k in taxi money for her to go home if she's playing innocent girl or go to work if she's a pro and you've already done her.

6k taxi back to laguito and dolce vita.

6k to taxi to your apartment they always ask because its hard walking 2 blocks in heels.

Then a much needed siesta. That's free. Comment: Taxi to the ATM and back. Why not consolidate a little? Because like me you are not on a budget. Also you got the taxi here for 2 or three different girls or some random massage girl. I lost count.


3k for smokes for her before you enter.

3k for her smokes when she arrives.

3k for her smokes outside. Comment: The guy is not mongering. If he is maybe he gets a non s moker? Just saying


20k to cover charge so you can hang-out at tu candela for a while / same dif if its Cafe del Mar.

20k for her double shot of what-ever then she vanishes.

3k in go-away money while waking in el centro.

2k in go-away money for the urchins. Comment: The guy is not mongering. Maybe one night he does this? Just saying.


120k for dinner at Quebracho or Enoteca don't bother with La Vitrola they won't let you in with her. It could be more expensive if you don't steer her away from the langostinos.Comment: The guy is not mongering. Lobster dinner? Maybe one night he does this? Other nights he eats like a Colombian? Just saying


3k for the Smirnoff Ice in your fridge for her / you got to offer something.Comment: The guy is on a tight budget. His room does not have a fridge, pobrecito, hehehehe.

Thats 1. 1 million pesos for guys like us. But for him it is 60K COP no woman and 250K total if he throws in a 150K girl, her taxi and a tip. But again he is not mongering. Looking to swoop girls after their shift.

I will say one thing. He might get lucky if he has game but he is in for some real disappointment if he thinks anywhere in Colombia is going to anywhere close to Rio.

[LuckyEddie]

last october (2010) i could write a page about how nice it was to deal with juan ventura. but it's been said before. i'll let it suffice to say that he's a gentleman, and rented a very nice apt to me for $60. 00 usd / night.

in ctg i like elektra. if you can't close a deal with a broad, and you walk away, the whole bar knows about it.

i'm about to turn 58 i'm overweight balding, and i'm not ugly. but i'm not handsome. all i can say for myself is. that l can pretend to be a gentleman when it suites my purpose. that's very important when dealing with latinas. when i set my sights on a woman. i don't rush. i make sure she knows that i'm looking at her. when there is a waitress near her, i approach and say "una traiga para la dama" (a drink for the lady) and i tip the waitress a little more than is customary. (12. 15%). then you are required to ask the following.

where are you from? = de donde estas?

how old are you? or they say how many years do you have? = cuantos anos tienes (pronounced anyos, if you say anos your asking how many anuses she has)

and most important do you have children? tienes ninos (ninyos)

i spend a little time with her. i make sure she doesn't have any annoying habits.

if it's a go: i invite her to my apt. they always say yes. and i immediately ask how much? i always counter offer. it sets the stage for future negotiations. at elektra 150, 000 for a desirable women is about right. if you have certain needs, now would be the time to discuss them.

getting back to the subject at hand. after travel and lodging expenses i spend about $150. 00 / day i'm heading to ctg in a couple of weeks. if anything is different, i'll be sure to post it. de donde eres

$150 a day + usd$60 a night is $usd210 (yeah i went to college) and is a lot less than $usd300-$500. you sure you were in ctg? if you don't do the hooker you spent 140k a day or $usd78 at octobers fx or usd$73 today (again, not including the lodging part).

i don't want to get into a pissing contest but uh with that 140k pesos left over did you:

order a liter of old parr whiskey?

32 beers? perhaps a lobster dinner for a random hooker?

"cuantos anos tienes?" is actually hysterical and i think the girls get a fun chuckle when foreigners make a bawdy mistake like that.

[Tom Power]

I was just lookin at my photos I just posted and it wasn't my intention to call Tar Heel a dummy I was just trying to make an impact on how people always come on the board and ask about getting a hotel vs apartment.

My apologies.

Here's a suggestion Tar Heel maybe you should consider romancing some girl before you get there and spend two weeks making love to her that could really make things affordable, in my experience when you meet a girl down there she's not puttin' out unless you wine and dine her, but if she thinks you love her and are coming to Cartagena for her alone she'll bend over backwards to show you how committed she is to your future together and insn't interesada (gold digger) hell if you lay it on thick before you get there your future mother-in-law will let you move in and skip the hostel she'll cook you meals you could pull-off coming home with money and no headaches on your VISA. If your young and good looking playing the love card is your ace in the hole. Obviously, you won't have a score card like Pauly D, but condom-less sex for hours and hours for pennies out of pocket isn't too bad either.

[Otiers]

Tom Power,

I enjoyed the pictures, thanks for posting. I got a couple questions though. Were you calling Juan a dummy? Or telling a dummy to hook up with Juan. Hahahaha. A comma would be helpful, but I knew what you meant. You never really know if a non-pro is really non-pro. Go ahead and approach anyway. I left the beach on several ocassions with women who appeared to be there on a family vacation complete with little kids hanging around. I agree that some of Tony's choices are on the edge, but in the past and most recently in September, he has introduced me to some of the best and energy filled college girls. I keep telling Tony no tto the uglies and he digs deeper and finally will get something I consider spending my time with.

The non-pros can cost you a heck of a lot more than the prepagos. I swear when my wife would show up, my expenses quadrupled. I never can understand how she can take four different trips across town to the mall or our duplex in the same afternoon. Each time more taxi money. Of course she does like to spend her evenings in LaPerla or Rio and if she is up a few hundred dollars, she won't leave until it is all gone. I thought I was going to be divorced by now, but as it turns out, we are heading the embassy next week for her and my step son's visas once again.

The argument over how much to spend while on vacation depends on what one expects on vacation. For some, it means just a room and bed with a bathroom and would not entertain in their room. I am not sure how much entertaing will occur since many of the girls think we are all making seven figures a year. You may enjoy seeing the sights, going to the beach or to the mall. After three days, one could see most of the sights in Cartagena and visit every store in the mall. I admit though, that I enjoy watching people and grab a table and several beers to see what happens. As for the beach, that is not what brought me to Cartagena. I enjoy it, but if it is the beach, I would just go to Siesta Key in Sarasota instead. I do want what comes to the beach, drink and talk to other Gringos, I just do not enjoy the grey sand and plastic floating in the water.

I first came to Cartagena in September 2003 and was lucky to find somebody to take me around the city to places that were in the barrios. Great food, inexpensive rum, people around to laugh at my attempt to revise my high school Spanish. Many are still my friends and I actually ended up marrying that girl I met. She did give up a good job and brought her step son to the US before her mother got cancer and she got homesick. She moved back to Cartagena which is why I see her only when I am in town. It does get expensive to wine dine and take her shopping when I am in town. I would prefer to go to the beach and take an afternoon street girl up to the apartment for a few hours. I can eat one meal a day and later eat a few of those deep fried hamburger filled pastries. A case of beer, water, ice, and coke will make me content.

I have also spent eight grand in ten days because it is easy to do. Most of it was after spending time at the bars (she liked Mr. Babilla) with my wife and her friends. At some point in the evening, there might be six girls drinking from our several bottles of Buchannan. I am a Chivas drinker and keep a bottle hidden in the apartment for myself. There comes the time in the evening, things head back to the apartment and there would be myself, wife and several of her friends back relaxing. More drinking and food needed to cure their munchies. Several times, I have been awaken by two naked women lying between my wife and I asking for money for the taxi and food for their little kids before they head to work. No matter how you think it is a nonpro or it will be a free fuck, it really isn't.

I have never been to Medellin, so I can't compare prices other than what others have written. I must trust what they say. I have been to Bogota on three different ocassions and found that although there are 50K casa girls and other low cost alternatives, the cost of lodging and food will eat your budget quickyly. Also, why go someplace that reminds me of being in springtime Chicago (I love Chicago, so nobody get on my case). You know where it is cloudy and chilly, then rains, more clouds and then some sunshine before it clouds up again. Instead of shorts, t-shirts and suntan lotion, it is long pants and jackets. I am heading to Bogota next Saturday and a hotel room for 6 days will cost close to $900. 00, I spent almost three days working with different apartment agents looking for a place that could accomodate two adults and one teen. I gave up after the best I could get was $170. 00 per day. Of course, I planned it so that I will have the last two nights solo before flying home. I just hope I am not broke by then.

If all goes well and the visas arrive, I will make a return visit, this time back to Cartagena and will have a day or two to hang out by myself. If anyone is in Cartagena around April 15th, let me know.

[Tar Heel Bred]

2 weeks? I would reconsider or get ready for spending a few nights taking it really, really easy. Pulling ass for cheap or almost free happens but mostly for younger and in shape guys. My old neighbor did CTG for a week last year and came back with all types of photos. This Colombian lady doesn't have 2 nickels to rub together. There is no way she spent more than 100K pesos a day.

You will be able to gauge your expenses. Just make sure you have enough to get home and pay the airport tax. If you call a few hostals or search the web for Hostal guides they will advise you as to where cheaper eats and attractions are. That stuff is not available on this board, sorry,

Go and have a great time take it all in and when you get back to your home country tell all your friends how awesome CTG is, how easy it is to pull ass and how everyone should check it out. After all it is the safest place in all of Colombia. Even cruise ships stop there!I am young (24) and workout and play sports regularly. I can't imagine their being many young (20's) good looking gringos mongering in Cartagena Colombia. So I'm sure ill have a leg up when I walk into the joint. I speak decent enough spanish to hold a conversation. I'm confident I will pull for free.

Ill have about 65 dollars to spend a day. Once I get there Ill have a better idea of how much a day will cost. But I'm going to be eating on the CHEAP! I'm talking like spending 10-20 bucks a day on food. If I feel that I won't have enough ill just take it easy sund. Wed and only spend money going to clubs on the weekend.

Is their covers at the main clubs in Cartagena? Also how much for a bottle of local beer in these establishments?

I could just do hostels and just go to a love motel when I meet a chick that is DTF. I'll have access to more money if I need it.

[Tar Heel Bred]

I was just lookin at my photos I just posted and it wasn't my intention to call Tar Heel a dummy I was just trying to make an impact on how people always come on the board and ask about getting a hotel vs apartment.

My apologies.

Here's a suggestion Tar Heel maybe you should consider romancing some girl before you get there and spend two weeks making love to her that could really make things affordable, in my experience when you meet a girl down there she's not puttin' out unless you wine and dine her, but if she thinks you love her and are coming to Cartagena for her alone she'll bend over backwards to show you how committed she is to your future together and insn't interesada (gold digger) hell if you lay it on thick before you get there your future mother-in-law will let you move in and skip the hostel she'll cook you meals you could pull-off coming home with money and no headaches on your VISA. If your young and good looking playing the love card is your ace in the hole. Obviously, you won't have a score card like Pauly D, but condom-less sex for hours and hours for pennies out of pocket isn't too bad either. Tom, I'm already doing just that on ColombianCupid! I'm covering all my basis to make this trip good.

[Speedbump]

no i go to the beach for a few hours i may buy a beer or two. the only girl i picked up at the beach cost $60 usd i do stock my apartment. i eat there and in the old city no i didn't rent a carpa, i sat at a table in the restaurant. cabs were cheap. it's not my stile to walk around hemorrhaging money.

i.


speedbump, i have some questions for you if you do not mind answering them:

could you break down for us your one hundred fifty dollars a day?

do you party on the beach at all during day, buying beers, water, juice, liquor, massages, maybe a manicure or pedicure, maybe buy a couple of souveniers.

do you rent a carpa, chair, or table?

do you order food on the beach, or buy anything from any of the vendors?

do you have an female company during the daytime hours, and if so, what type of money do you give to the girls?

do you go out at night to eat at any of the finer restaurants, or exactly where do you go and eat?

do you use taxis for transportation, and if so how much do you spend per day for a taxi?

do you buy food, refreshments for your apartment?

when you go out at night, do you just buy one or two drinks for the night?

i am curious as to how you are able to get by on one hundred fifty dollars a day, when you are giving the girl from elektra around eighty dollars of it. what do you do for entertainment outside of going to elektra, and what is the cost breakdown for the rest of your seventy dollars you spend daily?

your kindness in responding to my questions will be greatly appreciated!

[LuckyEddie]

I fricking hate it when guys try to manipulate the girls, as you suggested. These girls have hopes and dreams like the rest of us, and many do put there time and effort into meeting a good respectable guy that they can build a quality friendship with, that has the potential for a possible future filled with romance, stability, security, and opportunities. Why would you suggest to someone to manipulate them into false assumptions? If this is the type of guy you are, I can promise you that Karma will find you at some point. It might not today, or tomorrow, but at some point it will be knocking on your door for being manipulative. Totally classless.I hate this too. I'm no Captain Save-A-Ho but you can catch me frequently telling any and all girls I meet about the foreigners on vacation. Be sincere, you'll live longer.

[You Can]

Here is my report on CTG. I might have to do this report two fold if I can't finish it all today. I really don't think I have much to add, but hell I will write it anyway. First off I didn't really take any pictures, although most of the girls were more then willing to allow me. (I have my own personal reasons for this)

Here is a quick question before I get started. I was just wandering what you guys think of the girls taking pictures of us with them in the pictures and without. I was with 3 other guys and we took girls to the beach and restaurants almost everyday and they were all camera crazy! They took pictures of us left and right on the beach, hugging, laying around the apartment, in the Jaquizzi, etc. A few of my buddys were a little worried about this but it didn't bother me, they were like these girls could blackmail us, I just don't think so, all the girls we had were all really kool and some we kept longer then others but we treated them all well. Just would like a little feedback on this.

I will start with the first day and how I like to roll. We flew out of Atlantic city (spirit) cost of flight with all big front seats and carry on luggage fees was 585. 00 round trip. Got there at 5 am and drank about 4 bloody marys. 2hr and 10 minute flight to Ft. Lauderdale and three white wines on the plane later, we land in FLL. We pick up 4 bottles of Baileys. 4 Patron. 4 chevas regal. 4 bacardi. 2 drinks each in the airport and on to Cartagena. (2. 5hr flight) we arrive in CTG at around 1:30 I head right to the mac machine in the airport and grab 800, 000peso and a beer. I already had 600, 000 peso on me from last trip, so I am good for a couple of days and I got change for the cabby from the beer. We get 2 cabs for 15, 000 peso each to edificio playa mar where me and 2 buddys are staying in Penhouse and are friend is staying in 902.

This is my second year in the penhouse and you can figure on spending 300 to 350 us per night. Maybe if you are a hard negotiator you can do better then 300. I don't know. At 300. Its 100. Us per man, I was happy with that. Its a great place with a Jaquizzi and plenty of room, a great party place! My buddy in 902 paid 75. Us which we could probably get for 65. I didn't really like 902 but my buddy was happy with it. I have stayed in 301 and 801 and perfer them to 902 but they were not available. Now we are all unpacked and all have a nice buzz from both liquor and pills, for old fucks we can party with the best of them!

We hit the streets around 2:30. We all have come to an agreement we are not dealing with Tonys bullshit on this trip and decide we will spend are time in front of El Bonys, where I always get treated good from that establishment. Everybody knows me there and they have never paded the bill and appreciate the big tips we give them. I only use the chair vendor in front of Bonys to get me my chairs and cabana about 8chairs and 2 lounge chairs. 20, 000 plus a 10, 000 tip, nothing else, I walk up and get drinks at Bonys and the staff at Bonys carry down any food we order, which can be extensive because these little colombian girls can eat like crazy! We don't mind buying it because these girls clean there plates like it was there last meal! Ok getting back to leaving the apartment, we hit the street and start walking towards the beach. We hit the Farmacia and buy about 20 boxes of 4 cialis each at 3000 peso per box of 4. On are last day we found a place where we could buy it for 8000 per box for 4 pills, this is the cheapest I have ever found it and we bought a total of 150 pills to take home that last day. Keep in mind this is generic 50mg pills. I take one in the morning and one in the evening and my dick stays hard as a fucking rock when called upon, and keep in mind I'm drunk on pills, see, m, and liquor. (I am trying to be as open as possible) from there we say Hello, to the guys at Restaurant Requisimo where we often eat and then head down to Bonys. Tony must of gotten word we were down there and came down and said Hello, and asked if we were coming to his beach, which by the way is practically washed away, its less then a 1/3 of the size it use to be! I politely told him we would not be on his area of the beach at all because we were tired of the argument at the end of everyday. Believe me we would have an agurment everyday and it was not because of us, a bill that should have been say 150, 000 always ended up 300, 000 so enough was enough last year. As the week went on, he was sick that he didn't have are business because there was usually between 4 of us and 4 to 6 girls with us. But he fucked that up on his own. Also for those that know he has diabetes and had stopped drinking. Well he is back saucing pretty good again, I new that wouldn't last! From Bonys we headed over to Cabo de palo (sp?) restaurant catey corner from Armitrade Hotel, its pricey but I like it. I always sit outside and we had a big pitcher of Sangria and some steaks. (300, 000 with tip) We then head over to Olympica and pick up some water beer cereal milk etc. Then we start walking back to the apartment and as we approach the apartment sure enough there are some girls lingering around. A couple of the guys take the supplies up to the Penhouse and 2 of us stay down to chat up the girls the best we can with are limited spanish. I am not positive on the names but one is like Paula and the other is Roche? Paula says she can call a couple more friends over and we agree on 80, 000 peso for a couple hours each, but first we have to check out the other girls she is going to call over. Both Paula and Roche are nice, then a girl called gissete comes up and I take her, she is on the dark side, about 20 years old and is the littlest girl I have ever been with! One hand could palm her ass. We head up to the Penhouse and of course they love it, we have a security camera that looks directley at the front desk, so when Paula friends arrive we can see them nicely. There are two of them Claudia and Tatiana again not positive on the names but I am close. So security calls and we say send them up. So now there are 4 of us and 5 of them there all nice. I leave it up to my buds on what to do and take gissete to the cuzzi where she loved it (first she got a showere in my room) whe blew me like there was no tomorrow, some of my friends came out to the cuzzi with there girls and I headed to my room and had a great extended session with G. Gave her 100, 000 instead of 80, 000. It was more then worth it and it was now around 7:30pm Sent her on her way and took a nap till 1AM.

We all got showered and dressed, nice jeans, hip shirts (no not my helado shirt that you busted my balls about you know who you are) and a nice pair of shoes! Dressing well and being well groomed goes along way with these girls. I don't care what you think, treat them like working girls and you will be treated like a working girl. Treat them nice and you will be well treated. You can take that to the bank! By the way all the girls during the day had a great time with us and my one buddy kept Paula and brought her to the club and also left with her. I picked up 2 girls tonight, I would say they were 8's early 20's and believe it or not I didn't find out till the next day they were cousins, and I mean kissing cousins! 200, 000 each all night. I had a blast! We didn't awake next day untill about 12 noon and I took them to beach. All my buds also had great girls also. It was a great first day.

We are now on the second day and we headed to beach, I got my two girls and I swear I cannot remember either ones name? I thinks the brunette was Vanessa but I am not positive, we eat lunch at Requisimo and head down to beach in front of El bony. We get massages from Luce Marina who I adore and gives a great Massage for 40, 000 peso. 2 of my buds got girls and 1 of my friends is Solo, his girl went home. Another great day and the girls go on there way. My one friend still is with Paula. I go home and take a nap and get ready for night 2!

Wake up around midnight again and we all head out. Keep in mind my buddy in 902 always comes up to are penhouse and we make drinks to walk down to the bar with. Also 902 man is still with Paula who has been bringing him treats. To keep him happy and she is indulging in the treats with him, so there all more then happy! She is not the best looking girl but is treating him well and ad in the treats (girls) she is bringing him on the side he has nothing but a smile on his face. This night I meat a girl I had a major problem with on one of my trips, though I think it was of my own doing, (do to some heavy drug and alcohol use) so we never got to play. Well this night we make up and I been wanting to have this girl since I fucked things up with her months ago. We all grab girls and head back to PH, this was after drinking 2 large bottles of Medellin Rum at LDV with tip 350, 000 My buddy took Vanessa this night (the girl I had the previous night but her cousin was home) We all had a great night. Now keep in mind my girl has tattoos like a gang member (probably is or was in a gang do to the knuckle tats) and when I tell my buds, who all know the story of the problem I had with her months ago they are all a little scared and learry of her. I am not going to mention her name, though I know it very well, she turned out to be a really great person. I ended up keeping her most of the trip and had a great time with her. I would take her to the beach and such and then when she would go home for the night I would grab a street girl to play with for a few hours to keep things lively because my gang member girl was not into me being with other girls. She was alot of fun and also got me the best see and m for the littliest money I have ever paid, my friends now loved her too! We got a bag of pot creepa (size wise it was about 5 inch long 3 inch high and and 1 thick, I mean alot of pot) for 40 us dollars and let me tell you this shit fucked us all up big time.

We end up taking all the girls to the beach today and decide to keep them for the night so we don't have to go to LDV tonight, which will be are 3rd night. Great day on the beach! The girls all leave later in the day and we all decide to meet at the PH at around 9pm (my nap will be short today) on the way back I pick up a girl named something like Paulow? Took her up and had a great hour and a half for 100, 000 before I went to sleep. Had about 3 hour nap and my friends woke me up and I grabbed a shower, dressed the girls started filtering in! We were partying while hanging out, my one buddys friend did not show up, so Paula called one of her friends and off we went old city. We had a few drinks at Cafe Del Mar, We ate at a small italian restaurantin the walled city but I can't remember the name, then off to Mr Babbillas where we all had a great time. Back to the PH around 2am, everybody got naked between the cuzzi and bedrooms and it was a fun party night. No a great Party Night! The next day which I believe is the 4 day (Saturday) we sent all the girls home this day and took it easy. Told them we would see them at LDV tonight. We all we to beach and hung out talked to more girls etc. I went home and got a good nap and we headed out around 11:30 Saturday night.

To be continued!

[Speedbump]

i tried posting a report earlier. but it go lost in the ozone.

i'm not prepared to go into as much detail as you seem to want. but i will share this. obviously i don't do all of those things you mention. $150. 00 usd would not last long. i picked up one girl on the beach, i paid $60. 00 usd.

i seldom take on more than one girl a day. no i do not drink all day. but i usually have some wine in the afternoon.

i rent a nice apt, and i like to spend the hot hours of the afternoon there. so i usually make my own lunch. i have eaten at riquisimos, a seafood place in gethsemeni and places in the old city it's just not my stile to walk down the street hemorrhaging money.


speedbump, i have some questions for you if you do not mind answering them:

could you break down for us your one hundred fifty dollars a day?

do you party on the beach at all during day, buying beers, water, juice, liquor, massages, maybe a manicure or pedicure, maybe buy a couple of souveniers.

do you rent a carpa, chair, or table?

do you order food on the beach, or buy anything from any of the vendors?

do you have an female company during the daytime hours, and if so, what type of money do you give to the girls?

do you go out at night to eat at any of the finer restaurants, or exactly where do you go and eat?

do you use taxis for transportation, and if so how much do you spend per day for a taxi?

do you buy food, refreshments for your apartment?

when you go out at night, do you just buy one or two drinks for the night?

i am curious as to how you are able to get by on one hundred fifty dollars a day, when you are giving the girl from elektra around eighty dollars of it. what do you do for entertainment outside of going to elektra, and what is the cost breakdown for the rest of your seventy dollars you spend daily?

your kindness in responding to my questions will be greatly appreciated!

[Ricker]

I am young (24) and workout and play sports regularly. I can't imagine their being many young (20's) good looking gringos mongering in Cartagena Colombia. So I'm sure ill have a leg up when I walk into the joint ...You sound simply amazing!

I'm sure you'll be the hit of the town.

[Tar Heel Bred]

Tell me what girls want to go out with a penniless gringo who stays in a hostal? You have sixty five dollars a day to spend, but your lodging and transportation has to come out of that as well. A beer in the discos such as Tu Candela, Cafe Havana, Cafe del Mar, Mr. Babillas is anywhere from 6000 to 8000 pesos. Yes, the discos I mentioned have a cover charge of 20, 000 pesos.

I still think you should get Nibu Rafael to join you, as he is the best at getting by on the cheap, and you two can share expenses. Do a search for his name on here, or checkout his thread here on the Colombia board, though he does not post on it very much. I encourage you to send him a personal message.

Have funA girl will want to spend time with a young early 20's white good looking american. As I'm sure that is not something they see and talk to regularly. What girl wants to go out with an old mongering sex tourist thats old enough to be their dad? They don't, they just do it for the money and the freebies that a girl receives when accompanying a monger.

So I can expect to spend about 20 bucks at the main expensive discos in CTG (cover and 3 beers)

I'm hoping my trip is like my recent Costa Rican trip. Girl invites me back to her apartment and I smash that for a couple of days! Hot 20 yr old grl with nice real tits and plump ass. My spanish is better now soo that will come in handy.

Do these places except credit cards or just cash?

[Manizales911]

Here is my report on CTG. I might have to do this report two fold if I can't finish it all today. I really don't think I have much to add, but hell I will write it anyway. First off I didn't really take any pictures, although most of the girls were more then willing to allow me. (I have my own personal reasons for this)

Here is a quick question before I get started. I was just wandering what you guys think of the girls taking pictures of us with them in the pictures and without. I was with 3 other guys and we took girls to the beach and restaurants almost everyday and they were all camera crazy! They took pictures of us left and right on the beach, hugging, laying around the apartment, in the Jaquizzi, etc. A few of my buddys were a little worried about this but it didn't bother me, they were like these girls could blackmail us, I just don't think so, all the girls we had were all really kool and some we kept longer then others but we treated them all well. Just would like a little feedback on this.

I will start with the first day and how I like to roll. We flew out of Atlantic city (spirit) cost of flight with all big front seats and carry on luggage fees was 585. 00 round trip. Got there at 5 am and drank about 4 bloody marys. 2hr and 10 minute flight to Ft. Lauderdale and three white wines on the plane later, we land in FLL. We pick up 4 bottles of Baileys. 4 Patron. 4 chevas regal. 4 bacardi. 2 drinks each in the airport and on to Cartagena. (2. 5hr flight) we arrive in CTG at around 1:30 I head right to the mac machine in the airport and grab 800, 000peso and a beer. I already had 600, 000 peso on me from last trip, so I am good for a couple of days and I got change for the cabby from the beer. We get 2 cabs for 15, 000 peso each to edificio playa mar where me and 2 buddys are staying in Penhouse and are friend is staying in 902.

This is my second year in the penhouse and you can figure on spending 300 to 350 us per night. Maybe if you are a hard negotiator you can do better then 300. I don't know. At 300. Its 100. Us per man, I was happy with that. Its a great place with a Jaquizzi and plenty of room, a great party place! My buddy in 902 paid 75. Us which we could probably get for 65. I didn't really like 902 but my buddy was happy with it. I have stayed in 301 and 801 and perfer them to 902 but they were not available. Now we are all unpacked and all have a nice buzz from both liquor and pills, for old fucks we can party with the best of them!

We hit the streets around 2:30. We all have come to an agreement we are not dealing with Tonys bullshit on this trip and decide we will spend are time in front of El Bonys, where I always get treated good from that establishment. Everybody knows me there and they have never paded the bill and appreciate the big tips we give them. I only use the chair vendor in front of Bonys to get me my chairs and cabana about 8chairs and 2 lounge chairs. 20, 000 plus a 10, 000 tip, nothing else, I walk up and get drinks at Bonys and the staff at Bonys carry down any food we order, which can be extensive because these little colombian girls can eat like crazy! We don't mind buying it because these girls clean there plates like it was there last meal! Ok getting back to leaving the apartment, we hit the street and start walking towards the beach. We hit the Farmacia and buy about 20 boxes of 4 cialis each at 3000 peso per box of 4. On are last day we found a place where we could buy it for 8000 per box for 4 pills, this is the cheapest I have ever found it and we bought a total of 150 pills to take home that last day. Keep in mind this is generic 50mg pills. I take one in the morning and one in the evening and my dick stays hard as a fucking rock when called upon, and keep in mind I'm drunk on pills, see, m, and liquor. (I am trying to be as open as possible) from there we say Hello, to the guys at Restaurant Requisimo where we often eat and then head down to Bonys. Tony must of gotten word we were down there and came down and said Hello, and asked if we were coming to his beach, which by the way is practically washed away, its less then a 1/3 of the size it use to be! I politely told him we would not be on his area of the beach at all because we were tired of the argument at the end of everyday. Believe me we would have an agurment everyday and it was not because of us, a bill that should have been say 150, 000 always ended up 300, 000 so enough was enough last year. As the week went on, he was sick that he didn't have are business because there was usually between 4 of us and 4 to 6 girls with us. But he fucked that up on his own. Also for those that know he has diabetes and had stopped drinking. Well he is back saucing pretty good again, I new that wouldn't last! From Bonys we headed over to Cabo de palo (sp?) restaurant catey corner from Armitrade Hotel, its pricey but I like it. I always sit outside and we had a big pitcher of Sangria and some steaks. (300, 000 with tip) We then head over to Olympica and pick up some water beer cereal milk etc. Then we start walking back to the apartment and as we approach the apartment sure enough there are some girls lingering around. A couple of the guys take the supplies up to the Penhouse and 2 of us stay down to chat up the girls the best we can with are limited spanish. I am not positive on the names but one is like Paula and the other is Roche? Paula says she can call a couple more friends over and we agree on 80, 000 peso for a couple hours each, but first we have to check out the other girls she is going to call over. Both Paula and Roche are nice, then a girl called gissete comes up and I take her, she is on the dark side, about 20 years old and is the littlest girl I have ever been with! One hand could palm her ass. We head up to the Penhouse and of course they love it, we have a security camera that looks directley at the front desk, so when Paula friends arrive we can see them nicely. There are two of them Claudia and Tatiana again not positive on the names but I am close. So security calls and we say send them up. So now there are 4 of us and 5 of them there all nice. I leave it up to my buds on what to do and take gissete to the cuzzi where she loved it (first she got a showere in my room) whe blew me like there was no tomorrow, some of my friends came out to the cuzzi with there girls and I headed to my room and had a great extended session with G. Gave her 100, 000 instead of 80, 000. It was more then worth it and it was now around 7:30pm Sent her on her way and took a nap till 1AM.

We all got showered and dressed, nice jeans, hip shirts (no not my helado shirt that you busted my balls about you know who you are) and a nice pair of shoes! Dressing well and being well groomed goes along way with these girls. I don't care what you think, treat them like working girls and you will be treated like a working girl. Treat them nice and you will be well treated. You can take that to the bank! By the way all the girls during the day had a great time with us and my one buddy kept Paula and brought her to the club and also left with her. I picked up 2 girls tonight, I would say they were 8's early 20's and believe it or not I didn't find out till the next day they were cousins, and I mean kissing cousins! 200, 000 each all night. I had a blast! We didn't awake next day untill about 12 noon and I took them to beach. All my buds also had great girls also. It was a great first day.

We are now on the second day and we headed to beach, I got my two girls and I swear I cannot remember either ones name? I thinks the brunette was Vanessa but I am not positive, we eat lunch at Requisimo and head down to beach in front of El bony. We get massages from Luce Marina who I adore and gives a great Massage for 40, 000 peso. 2 of my buds got girls and 1 of my friends is Solo, his girl went home. Another great day and the girls go on there way. My one friend still is with Paula. I go home and take a nap and get ready for night 2!

Wake up around midnight again and we all head out. Keep in mind my buddy in 902 always comes up to are penhouse and we make drinks to walk down to the bar with. Also 902 man is still with Paula who has been bringing him treats. To keep him happy and she is indulging in the treats with him, so there all more then happy! She is not the best looking girl but is treating him well and ad in the treats (girls) she is bringing him on the side he has nothing but a smile on his face. This night I meat a girl I had a major problem with on one of my trips, though I think it was of my own doing, (do to some heavy drug and alcohol use) so we never got to play. Well this night we make up and I been wanting to have this girl since I fucked things up with her months ago. We all grab girls and head back to PH, this was after drinking 2 large bottles of Medellin Rum at LDV with tip 350, 000 My buddy took Vanessa this night (the girl I had the previous night but her cousin was home) We all had a great night. Now keep in mind my girl has tattoos like a gang member (probably is or was in a gang do to the knuckle tats) and when I tell my buds, who all know the story of the problem I had with her months ago they are all a little scared and learry of her. I am not going to mention her name, though I know it very well, she turned out to be a really great person. I ended up keeping her most of the trip and had a great time with her. I would take her to the beach and such and then when she would go home for the night I would grab a street girl to play with for a few hours to keep things lively because my gang member girl was not into me being with other girls. She was alot of fun and also got me the best see and m for the littliest money I have ever paid, my friends now loved her too! We got a bag of pot creepa (size wise it was about 5 inch long 3 inch high and and 1 thick, I mean alot of pot) for 40 us dollars and let me tell you this shit fucked us all up big time.

We end up taking all the girls to the beach today and decide to keep them for the night so we don't have to go to LDV tonight, which will be are 3rd night. Great day on the beach! The girls all leave later in the day and we all decide to meet at the PH at around 9pm (my nap will be short today) on the way back I pick up a girl named something like Paulow? Took her up and had a great hour and a half for 100, 000 before I went to sleep. Had about 3 hour nap and my friends woke me up and I grabbed a shower, dressed the girls started filtering in! We were partying while hanging out, my one buddys friend did not show up, so Paula called one of her friends and off we went old city. We had a few drinks at Cafe Del Mar, We ate at a small italian restaurantin the walled city but I can't remember the name, then off to Mr Babbillas where we all had a great time. Back to the PH around 2am, everybody got naked between the cuzzi and bedrooms and it was a fun party night. No a great Party Night! The next day which I believe is the 4 day (Saturday) we sent all the girls home this day and took it easy. Told them we would see them at LDV tonight. We all we to beach and hung out talked to more girls etc. I went home and got a good nap and we headed out around 11:30 Saturday night.

To be continued!Great report YouCan. Just one word of advise, be careful how much cripa you smoke. The reason most of this stuff seems to be the best pot you ever smoked is because it is laced with chemicals to increase the high and being Colombia who knows what kind of crap they are putting in there.

[You Can]

well here goes, i want to finish this report up! so its saturday and i had a great nap. we got up around 10pm or so and made up a few drinks. we probabaly left around 10:30 i originally said 11:30 but i know now that it was earlier then that because this saturday we skipped ldv but would have went if we didn't have any luck with are new plan for the night. we ended going over to the walled city that was jumping. we grabbed a table, at a place right to the right of the hardrock and had some drinks. there were alot of nice women walking around. very friendly, my one buddy who is half nuts was up and dancing. keep in mind this area has all tables on the street and is outside, with salsa music playing and many many people walking around. low and behold within 10 minutes my buddy had a group of girls dancing with him that ended up back at are table. after some drinks and fun, not long, we ended up taking them into the hardrock for some apps. this time there were six of them! unless some peeled off there were 2 of us that were going to end up with 2 girls each! after some appts we went back out and had 1 or 2 more drinks, by this time the girls had kind of decided who liked who and i ended up with 2 girls. we went back to the ph and carried on the party till about 5am. i honestly don't think these girls had done this alot, because they had no clue of the pricing. they were between 50, 000 and 100, 000 which in my mind was a great deal for these girls. all between 18 and 22. i feel safe to say they were all maybe 8's or better. but i don't know, i think it depends what you like. attitude wise they were 10's. we ended up giving them all 100, 000 in the morning and breakfast. my girls names were sofia and anya? they were not into each othere but worked me over good, i had a great time. we told them were we would be on the beach on sunday, but ended up just going to a small bar and drinking and people watching and listening to are music that the bar owner hooked up to an ipod connection. so while listening to the likes of the rolling stones and such and having people walk by and think where the fuck did all this american music come from that was blasting away and very audible to the sidewalk we had a great afternoon.

sunday late afternoon, we called sofia and asked them if they wanted to come out for the night. she was a little pissed because some of them did go to the beach and we never showed up, so we told them if they came out tonight we would make it up to them. she said fine and asked where. so we told them we would meet them at the same salsa place in the walled city. she asked if we were really going to show up and we promised we would. i took a short nap and we headed out after showering. we were a little late but so were they. this time there was only 4, my one girl anya didn't show up but 4 did and that was perfect, we drank and danced in that area of the walled city and then at at arepa pues in boca. we had another great night and sent these girls on there way in the morning.

monday we took it easy on the drinking and hung out late at the apartment. went to ldv mondany and tuesday nights. i kept my crazy tattoo girl the rest of the trip. that about wraps it up. we pretty much went the beach, hung out and had a great trip.

hope some of this helps my fellow travelers. i hate the word mongers!

[Tom Power]

Of course I am. I pay women to sleep with me.

I was walking out the door of a mall with my friend and somebody was asking for a donation, he said Tom why didn't you give anything and I said I'm a sex tourist. I don't have the right to pretend I care.

If Karma's like you say we're all doomed for going to Colombia and trying to take advantage of poor defenseless colombianas.

Tar-heel will have a great time either way because he's doing the same thing everyone here has done and thats read ISG very carefully and weigh fact from fiction.

[Talion]

BlackHawk is coming across as a bit harsh, but he's essentially right. As far as the newbies go, why would you argue about the experience of somewhere you've never been to guys who know the place inside and out? I just got to shake my head sometimes. The experience will be yours once you get there. Make of it what you will, and maybe even take advise with a grain of salt, but anyone who's been there knows more than you do, even if they're idiots. Once you've been there then you can open your mouth.

As for how much a guy spends, well, who cares? No matter where I go there's always some ******* bragging about how much he spent, and those who brag about what cheap-asses they are and how they spent almost nothing. They wear either extreme like a badge of honor. It doesn't matter. Spend what you're comfortable with, and plan your excursions accordingly. As long as you have a realistic idea of what things cost then what you do or don't do is up to you. The value on the information is knowing that cost. The experienced guys once again prevail. Just don't let anyone tell you that you have to follow the same lifestyle as they do.

Now, as for me, I've been around quite a bit, and am going on a last minute trip to Cartagena, which I've never been to before. I know Medellin and Bogota, but not Cartagena, so while I don't need spanish lessons, etiquette lessons or help finding a place to stay I would love it if Black Hawk or one of you other guys could help out with that list mentioned earlier. I would be happy to reciprocate with any knowledge I have (sometimes considerable) relating to Peru, Costa Rica, Cuba, Thailand, Mexico etc.

And as for the guy who said non-spanish speaking guys can get by easily in Medellin, he's on crack. Unless you're in the Mansion or the Castillo your hopeless ass is going to have a hard time getting by there, unless you hang with others who do. Same goes for Bogota.

[Ricker]

I was walking out the door of a mall with my friend and somebody was asking for a donation, he said Tom why didn't you give anything and I said I'm a sex tourist. I don't have the right to pretend I care.



Huhhh? What?? That makes no sense to me at all.
I'm glad I don't feel like that.



... If Karma's like you say we're all doomed for going to Colombia and trying to take advantage of poor defenseless colombianas ...I like to believe that it's more in how one has treated these 'poor defenseless colombianas' while adventuring in Colombia, and not just group us all together as 'doomed'.

[John Gault]

A girl will want to spend time with a young early 20's white good looking american. As I'm sure that is not something they see and talk to regularly. What girl wants to go out with an old mongering sex tourist thats old enough to be their dad? They don't, they just do it for the money and the freebies that a girl receives when accompanying a monger.

So I can expect to spend about 20 bucks at the main expensive discos in CTG (cover and 3 beers)

I'm hoping my trip is like my recent Costa Rican trip. Girl invites me back to her apartment and I smash that for a couple of days! Hot 20 yr old grl with nice real tits and plump ass. My spanish is better now soo that will come in handy.

Do these places except credit cards or just cash? Hell, sounds to me that you will not have to use either as I'm sure the girls will be glad to treat you as you are such a rare find for them.

[Ricker]

A girl will want to spend time with a young early 20's white good looking american. As I'm sure that is not something they see and talk to regularly. What girl wants to go out with an old mongering sex tourist thats old enough to be their dad? They don't, they just do it for the money and the freebies that a girl receives when accompanying a monger ...Again I say, you are truly amazing, the chicks are going to be all over you brother!


... So I can expect to spend about 20 bucks at the main expensive discos in CTG (cover and 3 beers)

Do these places except credit cards or just cash? I think the young, hot white guys get in and drink for free :)

Or maybe Mr Gault is right ...


Hell, sounds to me that you will not have to use either as I'm sure the girls will be glad to treat you as you are such a rare find for them.

[Growtek]

Re: Tony.


I politely told him we would not be on his area of the beach at all because we were tired of the argument at the end of everyday. Believe me we would have an agurment everyday and it was not because of us, a bill that should have been say 150, 000 always ended up 300, 000 so enough was enough last year.Like the tides, moon and stars, some things seem to never change. Tony is one of them. Same old same old. I was tired of his BS the first overpriced drink I had.

Tony had cojones. He would call on women you were already talking to on the beach and want a cut.

[Growtek]

A girl will want to spend time with a young early 20's white good looking american. As I'm sure that is not something they see and talk to regularly. What girl wants to go out with an old mongering sex tourist thats old enough to be their dad? They don't, they just do it for the money and the freebies that a girl receives when accompanying a monger.No, they never see that. Just ask the Israeli backpackers or LDV regulars. You have an open vista in the I'm-a-young-stud-pay-nothing category.

[Tar Heel Bred]

Again I say, you are truly amazing, the chicks are going to be all over you brother!

I think the young, hot white guys get in and drink for free.

Or maybe Mr Gault is right.Sound bitter Ricker.

Your money works just as good if not better.

[Hilltopper]

.....As for how much a guy spends, well, who cares? No matter where I go there's always some ******* bragging about how much he spent, and those who brag about what cheap-asses they are and how they spent almost nothing. They wear either extreme like a badge of honor. It doesn't matter. Spend what you're comfortable with, and plan your excursions accordingly. As long as you have a realistic idea of what things cost then what you do or don't do is up to you. The value on the information is knowing that cost. The experienced guys once again prevail. Just don't let anyone tell you that you have to follow the same lifestyle as they do....Tar Heel, I've clipped a part of a post for emphasis and to express that I very much agree with what this guy has said. Be yourself, have your own experience, ask questions and learn, but be leery of the extreme / obnoxious guys who want to forcefully or aggressively tell you how to spend your time, money, etc.

I will tell you that a $1, 000 budget for two weeks in Cartagena and then Santa Marta is not how I would choose to spend a vacation now that I'm twice your age, but I do think it can be done by a 24-year old guy as long as you don't mind doing without some modern conveniences, eating on the cheap, etc. As to accomodations given your stated budget, IMO you'd be wise to share expenses with a wingman or stick with the hostels (backpacker type accomodations).

IMO you'll want to befriend other 20-somethings, be they from the States, Europe, Colombia or otherwise. You should be able to be part of a different scene than most of the 35 to 60 year old guys who frequent the Northern Coast of Colombia.

Since you've already shown that you are spending time reading about and researching Cartagena, learning some of the culture and speaking more Spanish, etc, the best advice I can give you is this: Yes, you are a 24 year old young man from the States who has many advantages in life, but you'd be best served in your travels and your exploits with Colombianas to eat a large dose of humble pie before your plane lands in CTG. You'll score with some chicas and have some fun the way you are now, but IMO your level of success and enjoyment will increase tenfold if you go down there with some humility. IMO arrogance will be your downfall if you take it to CTG with you.

I wish you safe fun in your travel to and within Colombia. Be genuine and have a good time being yourself doing what you like to do.

HT

[Hilltopper]

Great report YouCan. Just one word of advise, be careful how much cripa you smoke. The reason most of this stuff seems to be the best pot you ever smoked is because it is laced with chemicals to increase the high and being Colombia who knows what kind of crap they are putting in there.I agree that was a great report from YouCan; a fun read that provided some fantastic visuals to anyone who has spent a little time in CTG, stayed at the PM PH, etc. I for one would like to see more "field" reports from others like these two from YouCan. Seems like many times there will be guys asking questions here as they plan their trip, but then many of them never give anything back by posting about their trip.

As to cripa containing chemicals; I have been told that exact same thing by more than one Colombian, but each time it came from a Colombian who had never smoked cripa (they only smoked the brown or none at all). I've also been told by some more experienced Colombian tokers that the genesis for the belief that cripa has been laced with chemicals stems from those who aren't used to smoking weed that was grown with a purpose. I have been told that people in the USA heard the same accusation (laced with chemicals) in the 70's and early 80's as the popularity of domestically grown sinsimella began to reach the masses. Now you may be right and I obviously can't say for certain, but I just wanted to pass pass on what I've heard from some experienced tokers, LOL.

[Golfinho]

What girl wants to go out with an old mongering sex tourist thats old enough to be their dad? They don't, they just do it for the money and the freebies that a girl receives when accompanying a monger.

So I can expect to spend about 20 bucks at the main expensive discos in CTG (cover and 3 beers)

Do these places except credit cards or just cash? Still doing research, officer? You know girls can't resist a man in uniform. Bring yours to show off.

[Tar Heel Bred]

Tar Heel, I've clipped a part of a post for emphasis and to express that I very much agree with what this guy has said. Be yourself, have your own experience, ask questions and learn, but be leery of the extreme / obnoxious guys who want to forcefully or aggressively tell you how to spend your time, money, etc.

I will tell you that a $1, 000 budget for two weeks in Cartagena and then Santa Marta is not how I would choose to spend a vacation now that I'm twice your age, but I do think it can be done by a 24-year old guy as long as you don't mind doing without some modern conveniences, eating on the cheap, etc. As to accomodations given your stated budget, IMO you'd be wise to share expenses with a wingman or stick with the hostels (backpacker type accomodations).

IMO you'll want to befriend other 20-somethings, be they from the States, Europe, Colombia or otherwise. You should be able to be part of a different scene than most of the 35 to 60 year old guys who frequent the Northern Coast of Colombia.

Since you've already shown that you are spending time reading about and researching Cartagena, learning some the culture and speaking more Spanish, etc, the best advice I can give you is this: Yes, you are a 24 year old young man from the States who has many advantages in life, but you'd be best served in your travels and your exploits with Colombianas to eat a large dose of humble pie before your plane lands in CTG. You'll score with some chicas and have some fun the way you are now, but IMO your level of success and enjoyment will increase tenfold if you go down there with some humility. IMO arrogance will be your downfall if you take it to CTG with you.

I wish you safe fun in your travel to and within Colombia. Be genuine and have a good time being yourself doing what you like to do.

HTTrust me, I got some humble pie in San Jose. I didn't take into account just how touristy Costa Rica was with guys of all ages and backgrounds. Granted I never tried or asked a girl to go home with me for free, them chicks just never came straight up to me and offered to go home for free like they did in Brazil.

I'm going to Colombia because I love latin culture, the people (women) , the music. As long as I come back in one piece thats all that matters. I'm going to have fun, regardless. Obviously I'm hoping to hook up with about 3-7 girls pro or non pro. But I can settle for getting one authentic colombian flag.

I'm thinking my best bet would be to def stay in a cheap backpackers accomidations during the week and get a decent room for the weekend. If I meet a grl that is DTF during the week we can just get a motel room. Def conserve my bread during the week and use the extra saved money to do it comfortably on the weekend.

[Ricker]

Sound bitter Ricker.

Your money works just as good if not better. Hahaha, I am so bitter. If only I had your good looks and arrogance. Oh the dream, oh my bitterness.

Guys like you eventually learn that a little humility goes a long way.

I just hope I wasn't so 'bobo' at your age.

[Manizales911]

Trust me, I got some humble pie in San Jose. I didn't take into account just how touristy Costa Rica was with guys of all ages and backgrounds. Granted I never tried or asked a girl to go home with me for free, them chicks just never came straight up to me and offered to go home for free like they did in Brazil.

I'm going to Colombia because I love latin culture, the people (women) , the music. As long as I come back in one piece thats all that matters. I'm going to have fun, regardless. Obviously I'm hoping to hook up with about 3-7 girls pro or non pro. But I can settle for getting one authentic colombian flag.

I'm thinking my best bet would be to def stay in a cheap backpackers accomidations during the week and get a decent room for the weekend. If I meet a grl that is DTF during the week we can just get a motel room. Def conserve my bread during the week and use the extra saved money to do it comfortably on the weekend.Dude I'm glad I'm not young and handsome and have to travel on your budget. I'd much rather be old, fat and ugly and not have to watch every nickel I spend, plus I'm guaranteed to get laid a hell of a lot more than you.

If you did your research you would know that if you use your credit card in the bars, restaurants and tiendas for a week you will get fucked big time and not in a good way.

[Tar Heel Bred]

Hahaha, I am so bitter. If only I had your good looks and arrogance. Oh the dream, oh my bitterness.

Guys like you eventually learn that a little humility goes a long way.

I just hope I wasn't so 'bobo' at your age. Respect and kindness go even further.

All I did was come on the forum in a friendly manner simply asking for advice, not bragging about how I was going to kill the town with my charm and goodlooks. It wasnt till after some Ahole bitter posters attacked me that I had to point out the obvious differences between me and conventional sex mongers.

But its all good, I don't hold it against yall. And I'm still going to report back with a data sheet for people that could benefit from it.

I'm done dealing with you Ricker. Que tiene una buen dia.

[Tar Heel Bred]

Dude I'm glad I'm not young and handsome and have to travel on your budget. I'd much rather be old, fat and ugly and not have to watch every nickel I spend, plus I'm guaranteed to get laid a hell of a lot more than you.

If you did your research you would know that if you use your credit card in the bars, restaurants and tiendas for a week you will get fucked big time and not in a good way.To each his own. I just don't like paying and fucking chicks that have already serviced 4 guys that day. Much rather find a non pro to hook up with. On top of that I could cut my trip to one week and get laid everyday (paying if I choose to) Soo I will take being young with options, over old, fat and ugly. But like I said to each his own.

And like you mentioned I wouldn't use my card in a club or bar. Only place I'd use a card would be for a room or something. But I plan on sticking to my budget soo I won't need it.

[Thumbs Up]

I am seriously thinking about taking a trip down to Cartagena (sometime in May) for some "fun" and sun. I've read through the Cartagena forum for the last year and half but have seen very little on the subject of golf. My second interest after women. I've been to Thailand a number of times and I love the women, beaches and golf there. It's the perfect place for me to vacation but it's so damn far. Because of the distance (East coast of USA) I usually stay for at least two weeks at a time but my current job is making that difficult. So I'm looking for an alternative that's closer to home where I can spend a week and then head back home.

Are there many, if any, courses close to Centro? Do mongers ever get together to play golf or meet in any of the bars in Cartagena to set up matches? What's the best way to get to the courses. Rent a car or taxi? Any information would be greatly appreciated.

[Hillbilly69]

All the talk of you handsome rich bastards going to Cartagena has me 2nd guessing my trip there in a couple days-

Really? Nope! LOL

Every man for themselves.

Nice trip reports guys-I will be in BAQ for Carnaval maybe I will scrounge up a pic.

[Talion]

I'll be down there on the 15th. Anybody else going to be around? I'll buy at least the first beer. .

[Ricker]

Please Tar Heel Bred, post a legitimate pic of yourself so we know what you are talking about.

Much appreciated! Ok Ok. But just one.

Am I smokin' hot or what?

Tar Heel.

[Ricker]

Ok Ok. But just one.

Am I smokin' hot or what?

Tar Heel. Hahaha, I just couldn't resist.

Thought it was time for just a little fun humor.

Happy travels to todo el mundo!

Especially to Tar Heel :)

[Otiers]

I am seriously thinking about taking a trip down to Cartagena (sometime in May) for some "fun" and sun. I've read through the Cartagena forum for the last year and half but have seen very little on the subject of golf. My second interest after women. I've been to Thailand a number of times and I love the women, beaches and golf there. It's the perfect place for me to vacation but it's so damn far. Because of the distance (East coast of USA) I usually stay for at least two weeks at a time but my current job is making that difficult. So I'm looking for an alternative that's closer to home where I can spend a week and then head back home.

Are there many, if any, courses close to Centro? Do mongers ever get together to play golf or meet in any of the bars in Cartagena to set up matches? What's the best way to get to the courses. Rent a car or taxi? Any information would be greatly appreciated. I can only think of one golf course in Cartagena. It looks nice, but not sure if it is private or not. I am not sure how many guys would like to play golf in the heat and humidity because at times, I start to sweat getting off of the plane. If you decide top play, start at the first sign of daylight and get through by 8 am.

[Thumbs Up]

I can only think of one golf course in Cartagena. It looks nice, but not sure if it is private or not. I am not sure how many guys would like to play golf in the heat and humidity because at times, I start to sweat getting off of the plane. If you decide top play, start at the first sign of daylight and get through by 8 am.Otiers,

I appreciate the input. Thanks. I've lived in the American South and have golfed in Thailand numerous times so I'm used to playing in the heat and humidity. I would definitely use a cart and go early or late in the day. Basically, I'm looking for something to do in addition to the mongering. I'm not 25 anymore so going at it all day / every day is just not in the cards anymore. Viagra / cialis et al notwithstanding.

The first time I'm in Cartagena I'll do the usual site seeing stuff but that only goes so far. The beach is a good alternative and I will check it out but I understand the beaches in Cartagena are not so good and disappearing as well. You have to go beyond Catagena to find nice beaches? But being a golf-a-holic my first pick of activities after mongering is golf if that is possible.

[Otiers]

A girl will want to spend time with a young early 20's white good looking american. As I'm sure that is not something they see and talk to regularly. What girl wants to go out with an old mongering sex tourist thats old enough to be their dad? They don't, they just do it for the money and the freebies that a girl receives when accompanying a monger.I have stayed out of your bantering because I try not to give attention to the insecure. I am in my fifties and a few pounds overweight (mostly due to working late hours and eating poorly) and still find that I can attract women of all ages because I show that I am interested in their opinions and lives. I have spent money on the young ones when I feel like it can help them or their child. I have been to their neighborhoods getting to know how they are made up inside. I can't bench press 300 lbs or run a 10K, but I can still be cordial and humble. It has gotten me far. I am married to a great Colombian woman and admit there was a time when our marriage would not survive the cultural difference and time apart. She is aware that during our separation, her young friends found their way into my apartment to talk, drink and have fun. It is hard for me to hide anything because I can be in town five minutes and word gets to her that I am in Laquito.

Us old guys know what we are doing and we are appreciated by these girls. I have had many visit me during the day just to listen to music and talk. I have gotten freebies not because of what they may later get out of me, but they just enjoy the company of an older man that has experienced life and has confidence. Sure I have paid girls also when I saw somebody I just could not resist. I have had girls come up to me on the street to meet me because their girlfriends tell them they enjoyed their time with me.

There will always be those that expect gifts and yes it may look strange to you to see some "old" man with a young girl on his arm. However, I find it strange tp see some young guy trying to get into a girls pants and then move on to the next. I would bet that when I return to Cartagena, I will have plenty of company when they know I am in town. However, it wil end in Bogota next week when my wife and stepson get their visas. I will be committed to just one person even though I have been given the green light to enjoy my time.

You might be a good kid and be fun to have a drink and shoot the breeze. So keep that same attitude with us "old" guys because you might find that we are fun to be with and the young girls see that in us also. If you will be in Cartagena in the middle of April, I will buy you a drink or two to help your budget.

[Ricker]

Respect and kindness go even further.

All I did was come on the forum in a friendly manner simply asking for advice, not bragging about how I was going to kill the town with my charm and goodlooks. It wasnt till after some Ahole bitter posters attacked me that I had to point out the obvious differences between me and conventional sex mongers.

But its all good, I don't hold it against yall. And I'm still going to report back with a data sheet for people that could benefit from it.

I'm done dealing with you Ricker. Que tiene una buen dia. I do have to say, I agree with you and I do probably owe you an apology.

I was just jokin' around really.

After seeing the photos you posted of yourself, you remind me of some of my daughter's friends, and I see you as just a young man making an adventure to Colombia.
That's cool.

You're most likely a pretty good guy and I only wish you a happy, fun and safe adventure in Cartagena.

By the way, at your age, I could've eaten canned tuna fish or ravioli every night and slept on the floor of someone's apartment without a problem.

I'm sure you'll find ways to make your dollars (pesos) stretch too.

Like OTIERS just posted, if I bump into you in Cartagena, a couple cervezas on me too.

Hasta luego ...

[Tiny 12]

Ok Ok. But just one.

Am I smokin' hot or what? Damn Ricker, now I know why you're so popular with the ladies. And I (wrongly) figured it was your easy-going manner and Spanish / Portuguese language skills.

[Schoolrumble]

I hear conflicting anwers regarding the best place in Colombia for young 27 year old to party, Is it medelin or cartgena which is better for the women, stripclubs or overall parties? Any information will be appreciated.

Thanks,

School

[Tar Heel Bred]

I hear conflicting anwers regarding the best place in Colombia for young 27 year old to party, Is it medelin or cartgena which is better for the women, stripclubs or overall parties? Any information will be appreciated.

Thanks,

SchoolFrom my intel Medellin has better nightlife. Although I think there is plenty of nightlife atleast on the weekends in all the major Colombian cities.

Bogota has hands down the best nightlife mon-thur. Cali is known for its partying as well.

[Tar Heel Bred]

I have stayed out of your bantering because I try not to give attention to the insecure. I am in my fifties and a few pounds overweight (mostly due to working late hours and eating poorly) and still find that I can attract women of all ages because I show that I am interested in their opinions and lives. I have spent money on the young ones when I feel like it can help them or their child. I have been to their neighborhoods getting to know how they are made up inside. I can't bench press 300 lbs or run a 10K, but I can still be cordial and humble. It has gotten me far. I am married to a great Colombian woman and admit there was a time when our marriage would not survive the cultural difference and time apart. She is aware that during our separation, her young friends found their way into my apartment to talk, drink and have fun. It is hard for me to hide anything because I can be in town five minutes and word gets to her that I am in Laquito.

Us old guys know what we are doing and we are appreciated by these girls. I have had many visit me during the day just to listen to music and talk. I have gotten freebies not because of what they may later get out of me, but they just enjoy the company of an older man that has experienced life and has confidence. Sure I have paid girls also when I saw somebody I just could not resist. I have had girls come up to me on the street to meet me because their girlfriends tell them they enjoyed their time with me.

There will always be those that expect gifts and yes it may look strange to you to see some "old" man with a young girl on his arm. However, I find it strange tp see some young guy trying to get into a girls pants and then move on to the next. I would bet that when I return to Cartagena, I will have plenty of company when they know I am in town. However, it wil end in Bogota next week when my wife and stepson get their visas. I will be committed to just one person even though I have been given the green light to enjoy my time.

You might be a good kid and be fun to have a drink and shoot the breeze. So keep that same attitude with us "old" guys because you might find that we are fun to be with and the young girls see that in us also. If you will be in Cartagena in the middle of April, I will buy you a drink or two to help your budget.I can relate to you on that. Like I said I LOVE latin culture. I pretty much only listen to latin music now. I love meeting new people. I def plan on staying in touch with all the girls I meet and getting to know them on more than just a fuck and leave scenario.

Would love to have a beer with some fellow Gringos. Ill post on here on the day I'm going to go to the LDV. Which will prob be the 14th or 15th as I'm Going to party in Barranquilla on sat night. Then head to Santa Marta on Sunday.

[BH Bound]

No prob, here ya go.You do realize you just posted pictures of yourself and your face on a high-traffic website dedicated to paying women for sex? Not the smartest move there, buddy. If I were you, I would seriously consider taking them off. Other than that, I hope you have a good trip. Good luck.

PS. Roosh reader?

[Golfinho]

You do realize you just posted pictures of yourself and your face on a high-traffic website dedicated to paying women for sex? Not the smartest move there, buddy. If I were you, I would seriously consider taking them off. Other than that, I hope you have a good trip. Good luck.

PS. Roosh reader?God's Gift was in a givin' 'and' sharin' mood. Y'all jealous or sump'in?

No man with half a brain even thinks about embarking on this kind of adventure before the age of thirty, unless of course he can't get laid at home, or has the benefit of a military enlistment at the poor mans' college under his belt and knows what a real man is suposed to do.

As for everybody else who's talent has brought financial rewards (that weren't all robbed in divorces) : live the life.

[Rainman3]

From my intel Medellin has better nightlife. Although I think there is plenty of nightlife atleast on the weekends in all the major Colombian cities.

Bogota has hands down the best nightlife mon-thur. Cali is known for its partying as well. THB,

I took my son (18 yo) with me to Medellin this past Navidad. He is a big, good looking kid (6'2" 200

Lbs) and he had the time of his life. I speak Spanish and he studied with me in preparation for his trip. He is a courteous kid and was extremely well received by las Pasias! He will be returning this summer and can barely wait. Now he studies his Spanish eagerly whereas before I had to make him.

As others have already told you Cartagena is a much more expensive city than any other in Medellin

IMO and I have spent time in all the major ones. Best of luck on trip but you really are going to have to be extremely tight with your pesos. Regardless of wether you are young or old Colombianas still expect the man to pick up the tab for meals and drinks. If you are able to do this and in addition are charming and fun to hang out with than freebies enter the realm of possibility.

I understand your plans are already in place but your money would have went much further for you in any other ciudad.

I will be in Cartagena along with a Paisa amiga this month. If I run into you drinks and dinner on me.

Buena suerte

[Ricker]

Frickin old age really must have caught up to you now, Ricker is buying cervezas! (wink) Forget Cartagena, as I will not be there until the 10th of March, so come to San Andres and meet me and my Bogota friend in one of the Decamarons, as I want mine, and I am sure she will be right behind me in line, as she likes her cerveza even more than I do! (wink)Hey Hawk, the only problem with meeting up with you and your 'Bogota friend, is ya after seeing her fotos you sent me, I'd be drooling with jealousy watching you two smooch hahaha.

And the foto of her on the beach. Forget about it!
Congrats on meeting and winning over a beauty like her!

Have fun mi amigo!!

[John Gault]

No prob, here ya go.A guy asks for pictures of you and you deliver.

Hey man I wish you luck on your trip and I hope you enjoy yourself.

[QueLinda]

Hello, to all,

I was referred to this site from a former colleague. I've been reading and cramming as much info as possible to make my trip an easy transition.

So far I have found a treasure of knowledge and would like to thank all the members for sharing such valuable information!

Right now I'm in the process of finding an apartment through Mery or Juan for my upcoming March 28th trip.

Senior and experienced travelers perhaps could answer some questions on the night life? I'm mostly looking for P4P The 3 main places I keep hearing are LDV, Elektra, and Isis. Are there more than this? If so, where and when are the best times? Also, any information on Casa's would be appreciated.

I've read that Black Hawk69 has a valuable and current list of all of this but haven't been able to find it anywhere?

I'm getting excited and want to be as prepared as possible. Hoping to have a great time and being able to share all my experiences in Cartagena with everyone here.

BTW, I'm not handsome, rich, or young. Just an average Joe. Sorry no photos of me but will gladly post some of the beautiful chicas I hope to find!

[Mule69]

The UNCW shirt makes me think we could share the same town Tar heel. Have fun, LDV is the place. Might see ya there. Mule

[Black Hawk69]

Couple photos of gifts from above while in Cartagena.

[Thumbs Up]

The UNCW shirt makes me think we could share the same town Tar heel. Have fun, LDV is the place. Might see ya there. MuleWilmington is a beautiful little town. I have thought about retirement there although good property is getting very expensive there. All along the Carolina coast. THB looks a lot like my nephew and my god the women that kid has thrown away is unbelievable. Some of them look like Pamela Anderson did 20 years ago. Good luck to you THB. But if I were you I might want to have some sort of cash back up. Like a relative. You're cutting things mighty thin. And you never know what can happen.

[Black Hawk69]

Also most girls tell me they much prefer an older guy in there 40's or 50's to a young guy who is 20 to 25, as the young guys do not have the experience, or the conversation to stimulate them, plus they have no interest in someone who cannot even afford a decent place to say, or have some money to buy a few drinks. In other words, they do not like no peso gringos. Just relaying what I am told.

[Tally Wacker]

I will take being young with options, over old, fat and ugly.

[Tar Heel Bred]

As I stated previously, when you are as blessed as I am with good looks and conversation, the girls flock to you, working girls and non-working girls alike. It does get old after a while, because I enjoy the hunt as much as the capture, but it is what it is. Believe it or not, after I have sex with them, they want me even more, as generally I can make them cum 5 or 6 times per session. Most always tell me they have never met a better lover than me.

Also most girls tell me they much prefer an older guy in there 40's or 50's to a young guy who is 20 to 25, as the young guys do not have the experience, or the conversation to stimulate them, plus they have no interest in someone who cannot even afford a decent place to say, or have some money to buy a few drinks. In other words, they do not like no peso gringos. Just relaying what I am told. don't always believe what females tell ya. In countries like Brazil, Colombia, Thailand, Costa Rica ect young upper class girls would not get caught dead with older gringos solely due to the rampant prostitution problem / stigma fueled by all the Americans and Europeans.

But there is always exceptions to every rule. You might be one of them or you might not.

[Ricker]

As I stated previously, when you are as blessed as I am with good looks and conversation, the girls flock to you, working girls and non-working girls alike. It does get old after a while, because I enjoy the hunt as much as the capture, but it is what it is. Believe it or not, after I have sex with them, they want me even more, as generally I can make them cum 5 or 6 times per session. Most always tell me they have never met a better lover than me.

Also most girls tell me they much prefer an older guy in there 40's or 50's to a young guy who is 20 to 25, as the young guys do not have the experience, or the conversation to stimulate them, plus they have no interest in someone who cannot even afford a decent place to say, or have some money to buy a few drinks. In other words, they do not like no peso gringos. Just relaying what I am told. We're damn lucky to have you on our Forum Black Hawk!

Keep up the good work!

You keep me rollin' amigo :)

[Rainman3]

Your final photo, Playa Mar 302. Right?


As I stated previously, when you are as blessed as I am with good looks and conversation, the girls flock to you, working girls and non-working girls alike. It does get old after a while, because I enjoy the hunt as much as the capture, but it is what it is. Believe it or not, after I have sex with them, they want me even more, as generally I can make them cum 5 or 6 times per session. Most always tell me they have never met a better lover than me.

Also most girls tell me they much prefer an older guy in there 40's or 50's to a young guy who is 20 to 25, as the young guys do not have the experience, or the conversation to stimulate them, plus they have no interest in someone who cannot even afford a decent place to say, or have some money to buy a few drinks. In other words, they do not like no peso gringos. Just relaying what I am told.

[QueLinda]

Hi guys,

Sorry to be a pain, just wondering if anyone had an updated list on the night life?

I've scanned the posts and can't find a lot of current info.

Thanks!


Hello, to all,

I was referred to this site from a former colleague. I've been reading and cramming as much info as possible to make my trip an easy transition.

So far I have found a treasure of knowledge and would like to thank all the members for sharing such valuable information!

Right now I'm in the process of finding an apartment through Mery or Juan for my upcoming March 28th trip.

Senior and experienced travelers perhaps could answer some questions on the night life? I'm mostly looking for P4P The 3 main places I keep hearing are LDV, Elektra, and Isis. Are there more than this? If so, where and when are the best times? Also, any information on Casa's would be appreciated.

I've read that Black Hawk69 has a valuable and current list of all of this but haven't been able to find it anywhere?

I'm getting excited and want to be as prepared as possible. Hoping to have a great time and being able to share all my experiences in Cartagena with everyone here.

BTW, I'm not handsome, rich, or young. Just an average Joe. Sorry no photos of me but will gladly post some of the beautiful chicas I hope to find!

[Bologna]

Attached is some more of the results of me being blessed with my good looks, conversation skills, charm, intelligence, and sexual skills. It has to be true, as I hear about it daily from the girls. [...]Anybody can get chicks like that (posted photos) in CTG. To each is own, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder I realize but to brag about those girls isn't saying much really. I'm just being honest here. I wouldn't do any of those.

As for TarHeelBreed, I don't know what all the fuss is about. He's a good looking young guy. So if he thinks he will have a "leg up" on some of the older guys well then let him think that. When he gets there he will likely be humbled by the actual results. You older more experienced, more charming, richer guys know this already. Why ya want to bust his balls so hard for? He seems like a good sort. I'd offer him a beer and a chair at the beach any time.

[Golfinho]

Looks like military enlistee fodder. Or else candidate for time serving in law enforcement industry.

[Hillbilly69]

beach had best seletion of girls i have ever seen here today. heading out in couple minutes if i feel ambitious i will post some beach girl pics in morning before heading to carnaval in barranquilla.

speedbump i have a few numbers and pics for you when you get here.

[Manizales911]

don't always believe what females tell ya. In countries like Brazil, Colombia, Thailand, Costa Rica ect young upper class girls would not get caught dead with older gringos solely due to the rampant prostitution problem / stigma fueled by all the Americans and Europeans.

But there is always exceptions to every rule. You might be one of them or you might not.THB, what you say is correct. What you fail to realize is that NONE of us, you included, is getting anywhere near the young upper class girls of Colombia, period. The only guys getting that ass are Colombianos, rich Colombianos, young and old. As a matter of fact you could be putting yourself in harms way if you start hitting on upper class Colombianas in certain places.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

By the way MiamiHeatLuver, Urban sends his greetings from San Andres.

See a few of you in Cartagena on the 10th of March. Send my regards to Urban as well. He is one charming MoFo who I'm sure has no problem charming the pants off some young coeds! Its all in the gift of gab people. Youth and may I say "average" looks have nothing on experience, gift of gab and be a well mannered composed gentleman.

P. S. Blackhawk! Nice pulls as usual!

[MiamiHeatLuver]

THB, what you say is correct. What you fail to realize is that NONE of us, you included, is getting anywhere near the young upper class girls of Colombia, period. The only guys getting that ass are Colombianos, rich Colombianos, young and old. As a matter of fact you could be putting yourself in harms way if you start hitting on upper class Colombianas in certain places.Let him find out de malas!

[Golfinho]

Let him find out de malas!Let him find out de malas!

Hell breed from state college in nowhere flyover land is ready to conquer the world. Let 'I'm have at it.

[Bologna]

Of course you would not do any of them girls I posted, you are fricking gay, evidenced by your sweetness for Tar Heel Bred. That is keeping things real, but whatever floats your boat. Your post is actually kind of funny, since it is obvious your boat floats in a different direction than the rest of us. For christ sakes, you probably have copied the photos of Tar Heel Bred, and have it posted bedside. I am just being honest here.Nice. It's apparent that with your (good looks, conversation skills, charm, intelligence, and sexual skills) you haven't yet risen above a 12 year old intellect. So much for your proclaimed intelligence.

[John Gault]

THB, what you say is correct. What you fail to realize is that NONE of us, you included, is getting anywhere near the young upper class girls of Colombia, period. The only guys getting that ass are Colombianos, rich Colombianos, young and old. As a matter of fact you could be putting yourself in harms way if you start hitting on upper class Colombianas in certain places.Hit on the wrong girl and one word from the jefe, and you will be soon in the ground. $500 does the trick.

[John Gault]

Anybody can get chicks like that (posted photos) in CTG. To each is own, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder I realize but to brag about those girls isn't saying much really. I'm just being honest here. I wouldn't do any of those.

As for TarHeelBreed, I don't know what all the fuss is about. He's a good looking young guy. So if he thinks he will have a "leg up" on some of the older guys well then let him think that. When he gets there he will likely be humbled by the actual results. You older more experienced, more charming, richer guys know this already. Why ya want to bust his balls so hard for? He seems like a good sort. I'd offer him a beer and a chair at the beach any time. Of the 8 or so photos posted by Black Hawk, you say you would do none of them. I would like to see a photo of a girl you would do. It appears your taste in women is way better than most of us on ISG.

[Bologna]

Of the 8 or so photos posted by Black Hawk, you say you would do none of them. I would like to see a photo of a girl you would do. It appears your taste in women is way better than most of us on ISG.Ok, I'll be honest, looking at the pics again the girl in 9. Jpg is actually very pretty and looks fun, and the 56. Jpg looks kinda nice too. , so I apologize for that BlackHawk, there were 2. But I can't imagine any of the others being first pick for any guy.

My point was really if someone has all those mad skills and brag about it, they should be able to sweep girls off their feet that the rest of us just can't.

[Gonzo]

Just got here to CTG, and already have more women than I can possibly do (NOT because I'm such a stud, but because I've been here several times before, and CTG is CTG) , and I have heard and seen some of the photos of the destruction of the beach, but seeing it first-hand is a shock.

For you regulars, you know Playa Hollywood street that ends up at El Muelle restaurant (and the other, whose name escapes me at the moment) , then one turns right, the jetty is right in front of you. Well, there is no right turn anymore, unless you want to tightrope walk a bunch of sandbags next to a seawall. All 40-50+ yards gone. Now, maybe it was high tide when I went. So I had to walk to the next opening to the beach, and 30 yards down the street. Playa Hollywood is about 30-40% of what it was in size, and in fact Tony is about X% of what he was in size. Lost a lot of weight. Usually that's good, but in his case, I'm not so sure. He only ripped me off for about 20K, not bad for him, and I caught a lucky break, he happened to set me up with a woman that was amazing. Gonzo is a happy man.

The beach next to Playa Hollywood, which is separated by another jetty, seems almost the same size as b4.

[You Can]

Well I rarely go for looks. I always go for who I have some type of connection with and it always works well for me. Well 99% of the time. I could care a less if there model material as a matter of fact, I don't even find myself attracted to that type. I much rather have a decent looking girl with a fantastic attitude. Very rarely have I found that with the exquisite (sp) looking women. So you can have them.


Ok, I'll be honest, looking at the pics again the girl in 9. Jpg is actually very pretty and looks fun, and the 56. Jpg looks kinda nice too. , so I apologize for that BlackHawk, there were 2. But I can't imagine any of the others being first pick for any guy.

My point was really if someone has all those mad skills and brag about it, they should be able to sweep girls off their feet that the rest of us just can't.

[John Gault]

Well I rarely go for looks. I always go for who I have some type of connection with and it always works well for me. Well 99% of the time. I could care a less if there model material as a matter of fact, I don't even find myself attracted to that type. I much rather have a decent looking girl with a fantastic attitude. Very rarely have I found that with the exquisite (sp) looking women. So you can have them.From my experence I must say a 7 with a great attitude beats the higher numbers. From the girls I have experenced only a handful in the 9 to 10 range have been great. While 75 % in the 7 range have been very good. Of course you must get the proper vibes from either group to give yourself a fighting chance at the big game (GFE) we are after.

Yes hunting for the GFE is like stalking Prey in the jungle. Instead of a rifle you have your knowledge and looks and the real ammo (money)

[Manizales911]

Well I rarely go for looks. I always go for who I have some type of connection with and it always works well for me. Well 99% of the time. I could care a less if there model material as a matter of fact, I don't even find myself attracted to that type. I much rather have a decent looking girl with a fantastic attitude. Very rarely have I found that with the exquisite (sp) looking women. So you can have them.I agree 100. Take the time to chat with a girl first, if she gives off a bad vibe move on, if she has a great personality it almost always carries into the bedroom, beauty is only a light switch away.

[DrTukan OC]

How's it going guys, I am new to this site and to be quite honest I only signed up because of Blackhawk, YouCan and Gonzo. You guys seem to know what you are taking about and I always listen to men who know what they are saying and have experience as I like to learn from the best! I will be in Cartagena with 8 other buddies from 3/9/11- 3/14/11 we're from Orange County, Ca all males between 28-32. We all love women but are not disrespectful to them. Our immature days of acting like fools are behind us and we are ready for this trip. We rented a home because it seemed like the right thing to do due to the size of our crowd and we are all willing to spend cash to have fun (most of us don't have a budget) unlike Mr. Tar Heel. Anyway, I wanted to get in contact with you BlackHawk or Gonzo or YouCan to see if you would be courteous enough to give us a short tour for a day in Cartagena? We can guarantee you at least a drink each (thats 9 drinks!) and a helluva time. Let me know if its possible to meet up and how. We all speak spanish and english fluently. Oh yeah and were all far better looking than Tar Heel. I guess he thinks he's hot. Maybe in North Carolina. Not in OC buddy but who cares how we look as we aint gay and only care of how the girls look and act!

[JersheyShore]

Hey buddy,

Hope you have a great time but don't rob Cartagena of all its beauty.

Can't imagine if we were all there at the same time! I wonder if there would be enough women to go around?

I'll be in Cartagena on March 22 for one week. If anyone wants to hook up with me and my friends for some serious partying, let me know.

I'm traveling with 8 other Italian-Americans for a bachelor party. All of us in our 30's good looking and in great shape. Fun to party with and not shy on spending $

Going to give my boy one more week of freedom and salvation.

We just secured a hellacious pad and ready to take Cartagena.

[Tar Heel Bred]

Far better looking than me huh? Damn yall are going to have to be turning down pussy on a epic scale in Colombia. And don't even think about paying for pussy if yall look that good. Hell, I'd make the girls pay me if I was yall.

[John Gault]

I don't know Gonzo, but if the other two guys decide to include you into their madness then you will have a great time.

One thing I must let you know. When dealing with Youcan and Blackhawk you must bring your A game. These guys don't stop. You guys are 28 to 32, well I hope you can hang. Anyway no matter what I hope you guys have a really good time.

[DrTukan OC]

I guess we'll have to take our chances then Black Hawk who knows maybe we'll run into each other on the 10th. I would go through with the twenty but it just seems to take long and I really don't have much time as we're leaving in a few hours and I have a lot of crap to wrap up. Nobodys fault but mine. I shoulve signed up earlier. Damn right Jersey Shore it would be legendary to be there at the same time as your crowd as it sounds just like my boys just different coasts. I will take all the advise I can piece together as to definitely go to LDV and Cafe Del Mar etc. N definitely stay away from a Tony at Playa Hollywood. Thanks for everything guys.

[Ricker]

How's it going guys, I am new to this site and to be quite honest I only signed up because of Blackhawk, YouCan and Gonzo. You guys seem to know what you are taking about and I always listen to men who know what they are saying and have experience as I like to learn from the best!

... Oh yeah and were all far better looking than Tar Heel. I guess he thinks he's hot. Maybe in North Carolina. Not in OC buddy.
Far better looking than me huh? Damn yall are going to have to be turning down pussy on a epic scale in Colombia. And don't even think about paying for pussy if yall look that good. Hell, I'd make the girls pay me if I was yall.It's not like it's difficult to sign up to this site DrTukan, a handle and an email and off you go.

As far as being better looking than Tar Heel, well at least the guy posted his photos.

You may not be aware of this, but there's a fairly new rule on this site; if you write as to 'how good looking you are', you're required to post photos to prove it.

Far too many guys making these claims these days, especially SoCal guys.

Another new rule in the works as well; if you claim to have brought a girl to several orgasms, you'll need to submit notarized affirmation of this by the girl herself.

This should cut down on quite a bit of the fantasy writing.

Have fun in Costagena! Ooops, I mean Cartagena :)

[Member #3437]

No prob, here ya go. <snip pics of kid wet behind ears>Heh. Okay I am going to be serious, as I have done a lot of traveling around South America and hung around the young good looking traveling guys in the backpacking hotels, told stories, had fun, but NEVER did they outpull me for girls. Not once.

Young, decent looking guys like yourself will have no problem getting girls. This is true. Go to the disco and you will get attention. HOWEVER, over in the corner you see that guy, that 40 something guy sitting at the bar who is pretty average looking, who is kind of smiling a little when he looks your way? He has already banged every girl that is whispering "que quapo" about you, and he can probably walk up to your new girlfriend and say "excuse me", offer to leave with her, and she will either go or meet him outside as she excuses herself. This is a different game than you are playing, and the field is not level.

I used to bang the smoking hot head bartender at Tequila rocks in Lima all the time. All the locals told me she was out of play. Sometimes would be sucking my * and her phone would ring, and it would be her US serviceman boyfriend who was 22. Last I saw her, she had moved on, quit her job, was hooked up with an american who was living in Lima, age 23, who was quite the handsome young man, and they were engaged to be married.

Ricker had a 19 year old girlfriend in Medellin about 5 years ago, and I was playing around with her younger sister.

This is not Kansas dude. You are out of your leaque.

[Rainman3]

Far better looking than me huh? Damn yall are going to have to be turning down pussy on a epic scale in Colombia. And don't even think about paying for pussy if yall look that good. Hell, I'd make the girls pay me if I was yall."young men think old men are fools but old men know that young men are fools!"

[JersheyShore]

I am one of them! I have been told many many times from the girls, that I am a gift to them from above! There are not to many other guys who have better conversational skills than me, not to mention my physical beauty alone sweeps them off their feet. Anyone who has partied with me from the board here will tell you this. I am all that and more! When the girls get some of the Black Hawk, they are experiencing the taste of heaven. That again, is just keeping it in reality.Hey BlackHawk,

Like to see you in action.

Just wondering if you possess all these God Gifted skills then why do you have to travel to 3rd world countries to troll for women?

If you even have a fraction of the attributes you claim you wouldn't have to leave your backyard to find beautiful women. Just ask Heff or any Hollywood badboy.

Either you're not what you claim or your skills have seriously eroded to the point where you're trying to recapture your youth. Hence the fact that you've turned to prostitutes to feed your starving ego. ROTFLMAO.

Of course you can prove us wrong!

I'll be there with 8 other buddies on March 22. If you think you can hang and keep up with us? Look me up!

[Tar Heel Bred]

Heh. Okay I am going to be serious, as I have done a lot of traveling around South America and hung around the young good looking traveling guys in the backpacking hotels, told stories, had fun, but NEVER did they outpull me for girls. Not once.

Young, decent looking guys like yourself will have no problem getting girls. This is true. Go to the disco and you will get attention. HOWEVER, over in the corner you see that guy, that 40 something guy sitting at the bar who is pretty average looking, who is kind of smiling a little when he looks your way? He has already banged every girl that is whispering "que quapo" about you, and he can probably walk up to your new girlfriend and say "excuse me", offer to leave with her, and she will either go or meet him outside as she excuses herself. This is a different game than you are playing, and the field is not level.

I used to bang the smoking hot head bartender at Tequila rocks in Lima all the time. All the locals told me she was out of play. Sometimes would be sucking my * and her phone would ring, and it would be her US serviceman boyfriend who was 22. Last I saw her, she had moved on, quit her job, was hooked up with an american who was living in Lima, age 23, who was quite the handsome young man, and they were engaged to be married.

Ricker had a 19 year old girlfriend in Medellin about 5 years ago, and I was playing around with her younger sister.

This is not Kansas dude. You are out of your leaque.Not sure the point of your post. Its like your bragging about some older dude that has fucked all the girls in the disco that he PAID for. LOL Anyone can pay for sex, that means nothing. Nothing wrong with paying, I just wouldn't brag about it.

[Hillbilly69]

A girl my younger wingman and I hooked up with 125k pesos. We both tagged her me once him twice LOL out of LDV.

He got another for 120k pesos pic later and one off beach yesterday for 50k pesos not bad.

Nice to run into you again Locogringo.

[Gonzo]

Damn right Jersey Shore it would be legendary to be there at the same time as your crowd as it sounds just like my boys just different coasts. I will take all the advise I can piece together as to definitely go to LDV and Cafe Del Mar etc. N definitely stay away from a Tony at Playa Hollywood. Thanks for everything guys.Oh no. 8 goombahs in CTG! (I'm a goombah too). Blackhawk69 will help you out for sure! Also, you don't necessarily have to avoid Tony, simply show up around 4:30 or 5:00 when all the hooking up finishes up and Tony doesn't have enuf time to rip you off. Just keep Playa Hollywood as a contingency plan if you want sumpin-sumpin in the late afternoon, and you don't have any yet.

Good one Ricker, Costagena! It's mostly true, prices do vary, had 2 below market, but they are rising in general. It's annoying. And the 3-ways are very costly!

Blackhawk69, thanks for the compliment, I can keep up with the young chicas for a while, but eventually they wear me down. Most of the time here I'm feeling very satisfied, sometimes tired, sometimes I wish I had 3 johnsons.

[DR1470]

Hey BlackHawk,

Like to see you in action.

Just wondering if you possess all these God Gifted skills then why do you have to travel to 3rd world countries to troll for women?

If you even have a fraction of the attributes you claim you wouldn't have to leave your backyard to find beautiful women. Just ask Heff or any Hollywood badboy.

Either you're not what you claim or your skills have seriously eroded to the point where you're trying to recapture your youth. Hence the fact that you've turned to prostitutes to feed your starving ego. ROTFLMAO.

Of course you can prove us wrong!

I'll be there with 8 other buddies on March 22. If you think you can hang and keep up with us? Look me up! At some point in your life you will acknowledge the fact that. :

"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less."

[John Gault]

I have been reading this talking about young verse old and Paying pro's verse non pro's and getting free action from pro's.

I guess it is time for my opinion. As most likely one of the older guys on this forum who can hang with anyone young or old, I must say I think the main point is being missed here. First off when you pay it is the most honest transaction you can get. After you are finished you don't have to lie or play games with the girl. You just move on to the next one. Also the thought is always there, does she really like me or is she looking for that coveted ticket to the USA?

I think 99% of us have all had non Pro's at one time or another so what is the big deal about it? Forget all this bragging and get to the real issue, that is am I getting a awesome experence?

For me I hunt all the time (I travel almost every month for long amounts of time) and keep trying out new girls. The result is I have a solid Pro or two in every country I have been to. This enables me to have a total GFE whenever I choose.

To sum up. Leave your egos and the door (myself included as I have bragged a little here) and look for great experences not numbers and false hopes.

[LuckyEddie]

Good one Ricker, Costagena!I propose: Goombagena, or Guidogena

[LuckyEddie]

At some point in your life you will acknowledge the fact that. :

"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less."This is so true in the US.

But in a 3rd world country with a 3rd world girlfriend who has a decent job it is exactly the opposite.

My current girl is on the pill, no kids, all 3 inputs open for business, swallows, totally GFE, freak in bed, has her own bedroom in an apartment she shares with her sister and answers to no one. The family lives 4 hours away on the outskirts and every member has a job.

I pay for the cine twice a month, dinner once a week and many times we just watch TV and bum around the mall. She gets up at 5:30AM to get to the office by 7:30AM and when she gets home at 6:30PM she has to cook her lunch for the next day. She's dog tired. We are not in a discoteque every night. I am the one having to drag her out.

On my birthday she took me out and pays for dinner in Lleras. When she got her year end bonus she took me out for drinks.

What I spend on her a month has to be under 200K. She is a 1-2 drink maximum. I do spend a good deal on gift days like birthday, Chirstmas, Dia de Amor Amistad.

But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit.

[Cuero99]

This is so true in the US.

But in a 3rd world country with a 3rd world girlfriend who has a decent job it is exactly the opposite.

My current girl is on the pill, no kids, all 3 inputs open for business, swallows, totally GFE, freak in bed, has her own bedroom in an apartment she shares with her sister and answers to no one. The family lives 4 hours away on the outskirts and every member has a job.

I pay for the cine twice a month, dinner once a week and many times we just watch TV and bum around the mall. She gets up at 5:30AM to get to the office by 7:30AM and when she gets home at 6:30PM she has to cook her lunch for the next day. She's dog tired. We are not in a discoteque every night. I am the one having to drag her out.

On my birthday she took me out and pays for dinner in Lleras. When she got her year end bonus she took me out for drinks.

What I spend on her a month has to be under 200K. She is a 1-2 drink maximum. I do spend a good deal on gift days like birthday, Chirstmas, Dia de Amor Amistad.

But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit. Sounds very nice. But does or will this girl have a desire to "advance" the relationship sooner or later? And when you get bored or it ends, will it end with drama or tears?

I'm not you but if I was living and dating locally in Medellin or Lima Peru which is my other frequent destination and possibly a permanent one soon, I'd actually feel better if part of any relationship with a non-pro was based on some kind of financial support to supplement her meager income. Because I always crave variety and hate being tied down I would also make clear the relationship be explicitly NSA. If I'm supposed to be sincere and faithful I would suffer from one of two negative feelings, either guilt when I just have to tap some new strange and lie to my girl about that or worse, risk being found out, or "caged-in" if I force myself to be unnaturally monogamous living in a place of pussy abundance.

[Speculator]

This is so true in the US.

But in a 3rd world country with a 3rd world girlfriend who has a decent job it is exactly the opposite.

My current girl is on the pill, no kids, all 3 inputs open for business, swallows, totally GFE, freak in bed, has her own bedroom in an apartment she shares with her sister and answers to no one. The family lives 4 hours away on the outskirts and every member has a job.

I pay for the cine twice a month, dinner once a week and many times we just watch TV and bum around the mall. She gets up at 5:30AM to get to the office by 7:30AM and when she gets home at 6:30PM she has to cook her lunch for the next day. She's dog tired. We are not in a discoteque every night. I am the one having to drag her out.

On my birthday she took me out and pays for dinner in Lleras. When she got her year end bonus she took me out for drinks.

What I spend on her a month has to be under 200K. She is a 1-2 drink maximum. I do spend a good deal on gift days like birthday, Chirstmas, Dia de Amor Amistad.

But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit. Yes, but you are LuckyEddie

[Golfinho]

sounds very nice. but does or will this girl have a desire to "advance" the relationship sooner or later? and when you get bored or it ends, will it end with drama or tears?

if i'm supposed to be sincere and faithful i would suffer from one of two negative feelings, either guilt when i just have to tap some new strange and lie to my girl about that or worse, risk being found out, or "caged-in" if i force myself to be unnaturally monogamous living in a place of pussy abundance. +1.

even if 'bandit' was used as a figure of speech, the term still speaks for something that didn't sound good.

[John Gault]

This is so true in the US.

But in a 3rd world country with a 3rd world girlfriend who has a decent job it is exactly the opposite.

My current girl is on the pill, no kids, all 3 inputs open for business, swallows, totally GFE, freak in bed, has her own bedroom in an apartment she shares with her sister and answers to no one. The family lives 4 hours away on the outskirts and every member has a job.

I pay for the cine twice a month, dinner once a week and many times we just watch TV and bum around the mall. She gets up at 5:30AM to get to the office by 7:30AM and when she gets home at 6:30PM she has to cook her lunch for the next day. She's dog tired. We are not in a discoteque every night. I am the one having to drag her out.

On my birthday she took me out and pays for dinner in Lleras. When she got her year end bonus she took me out for drinks.

What I spend on her a month has to be under 200K. She is a 1-2 drink maximum. I do spend a good deal on gift days like birthday, Chirstmas, Dia de Amor Amistad.

But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit. Eddie, you are my hero. Really

[MiamiHeatLuver]

This is so true in the US.

But in a 3rd world country with a 3rd world girlfriend who has a decent job it is exactly the opposite.

My current girl is on the pill, no kids, all 3 inputs open for business, swallows, totally GFE, freak in bed, has her own bedroom in an apartment she shares with her sister and answers to no one. The family lives 4 hours away on the outskirts and every member has a job.

I pay for the cine twice a month, dinner once a week and many times we just watch TV and bum around the mall. She gets up at 5:30AM to get to the office by 7:30AM and when she gets home at 6:30PM she has to cook her lunch for the next day. She's dog tired. We are not in a discoteque every night. I am the one having to drag her out.

On my birthday she took me out and pays for dinner in Lleras. When she got her year end bonus she took me out for drinks.

What I spend on her a month has to be under 200K. She is a 1-2 drink maximum. I do spend a good deal on gift days like birthday, Chirstmas, Dia de Amor Amistad.

But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit. Do you live in Medellin full time? Or just visit frequently and / or for long periods of time? Does she have Facebook? Take a look at what and which guys post on her wall or who's wall she posts on. Chances are that's who's she's banging when you leave town. Or if not thats her "dick in a glass case" "break in case of emergency" novio when she feels like it or if you fuck up. If she tells you that she doesn't have Facebook it's a lie beacause every single Colombiana i know under 30 has one. They will create 2 or more profiles. 1 sanitized that she will share with you and one for her friends using pseudo names like (Princessa 89) and things like this. I figured its best to not be "friends" with girls I become serious with because it just adds to much pressure and stress to a relationship. Just enjoy the time when we are together and thatssss it!

[Ricker]

... But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit.
Sounds very nice. But does or will this girl have a desire to "advance" the relationship sooner or later? And when you get bored or it ends, will it end with drama or tears?

I'm not you but if I was living and dating locally in Medellin or Lima Peru which is my other frequent destination and possibly a permanent one soon, I'd actually feel better if part of any relationship with a non-pro was based on some kind of financial support to supplement her meager income. Because I always crave variety and hate being tied down I would also make clear the relationship be explicitly NSA. If I'm supposed to be sincere and faithful I would suffer from one of two negative feelings, either guilt when I just have to tap some new strange and lie to my girl about that or worse, risk being found out, or "caged-in" if I force myself to be unnaturally monogamous living in a place of pussy abundance. I have to agree with the LuckyEddie on this.

It sure is nice to hang with a girl who makes her own money, won't accept financial support and would actually be offended if you tried, and is with you because she really does like you.

I still haven't found that type relationship in Colombia, never have, but I have it now in Brazil.

It's nice.

Now do I still get that craving for variety and the chase? Of course.

For me that's where the PFP comes in to play, and I dabble in that for some fun and I have to accept that's who I am, but I do enjoy eventually coming back to the girl who digs me.


Do you live in Medellin full time? Or just visit frequently and / or for long periods of time? Does she have Facebook? Take a look at what and which guys post on her wall or who's wall she posts on. Chances are that's who's she's banging when you leave town. Or if not thats her "dick in a glass case" "break in case of emergency" novio when she feels like it or if you fuck up. If she tells you that she doesn't have Facebook it's a lie beacause every single Colombiana i know under 30 has one. They will create 2 or more profiles. 1 sanitized that she will share with you and one for her friends using pseudo names like (Princessa 89) and things like this. I figured its best to not be "friends" with girls I become serious with because it just adds to much pressure and stress to a relationship. Just enjoy the time when we are together and thatssss it!Hahaha. I'm with ya Heat, lots of these chicas are 'playas', but surely not all of them.

Believe it or not, there are some keepers out there.

Hasta pronto.

[Ricker]

. I'm traveling with 8 other Italian-Americans for a bachelor party. All of us in our 30's good looking and in great shape. Fun to party with and not shy on spending $.

We just secured a hellacious pad and ready to take Cartagena.
Good one Ricker, Costagena!
I propose: Goombagena, or GuidogenaOh brother, feels like I blinked and everything changed.

That's cool though, just hangin' in new places.

[LuckyEddie]

Do you live in Medellin full time? Or just visit frequently and / or for long periods of time? Does she have Facebook? Take a look at what and which guys post on her wall or who's wall she posts on. Chances are that's who's she's banging when you leave town. Or if not thats her "dick in a glass case" "break in case of emergency" novio when she feels like it or if you fuck up. If she tells you that she doesn't have Facebook it's a lie beacause every single Colombiana i know under 30 has one. They will create 2 or more profiles. 1 sanitized that she will share with you and one for her friends using pseudo names like (Princessa 89) and things like this. I figured its best to not be "friends" with girls I become serious with because it just adds to much pressure and stress to a relationship. Just enjoy the time when we are together and thatssss it!HeatLuver. I would ask the same questions if I were you. No harm no foul. I appreciate the help.

I am here full time since 2003, speak fluent spanish although with an accent. I've been in the game and know all the tricks in the book. I honestly feel I can spot the liar. Matter of fact it is practically all of them!

I never leave town. Yes, she has Facebook, like 60 friends, no gringos and just moved to Medellin 9 months ago and we hooked up on her 2nd month here. Beforehand she worked for the mayor's office in her pueblo and had a steady boyfriend there since highschool. They broke up about 6 months before she moved here. I have access to her computer and such and don't need to spy. But I could if I wanted to.

She has one cell phone, no primos hanging around, no gaps on her resume and again, has only been in Medellin for 9 months. She doesn't NEED me and doesn't admit to hating Colombian men (that is the lie to watch for). She doesn't see my facebook and I don't see hers. It's really not necessary. If she is banging anyone it would have to be somoene in her office. They would have to be going at it in the closet and every one would know as her office is run by women.

Honestly? I don't really care.

The trick is living here and being able to get girls with options (ie: pretty young girls with a lot going for them). You need to stick it out with them for a while. These girls are financially secure with their shit half together, generally get good Colombian guys. Those guys do exist.

These girls are not really looking to leave the country permanently but are open and really would just love to travel. But they want to be here with their family and friends and have no problem saying so. These girls hooking up with a foreigner who happens to be here on a one week vacation, or with some foreigner who lives here but doesn't speak the language, or with any guy, foreigner or Colombian, who is way out of her league, well, does not have a shot with her. For her this is just not an option.

Just imagine yourself here and having to compromise with having to be with Rosie O' Donnell or some other fat 40 something year old. Why don't you do that old lady when you are here? Because like the really great girls you too also have choices.

These girls, like every girl on the planet, want to converse with their boyfriends,"how was your day?" and don't want to be embarrased walking down the street with someone totally not in their league. Image is very important here.

So why am I rambling on about this? Not just because the guy I quoted in my original post, who said non pros cost more than pros, struck a chord. But all the rest of you: Practically every guy on here is looking for girlfriend experience. GFE is mentioned in every post about hookers.

It is great having a steady slampiece and being able to fool around on the side in the PFP arena, but seriously? When you got a hottie with no restrictions and no condoms it's tough in bed wearing a rubber with a skank who's fucking half the town for 35K a pop.

For the record I do hit the casas and putas now and then but don't consider that a big no no. Although this girl is in my league, she is under 30 and if things don't work out noone really got screwed. Yeah there will be tears when the breakup happens but know what? There's tears when the break happens in any country. So what? My intentions are good.

[LuckyEddie]

Now do I still get that craving for variety and the chase? Of course.

For me that's where the PFP comes in to play, and I dabble in that for some fun and I have to accept that's who I am, but I do enjoy eventually coming back to the girl who digs me. And there you have it. I'm in the same boat. Ricker as you probably know what you have in your neck of Brazil was available here 6, 8.10 years ago. Nowadays the girls here are so inundated with gringos that finding what you have is actually too much work and at times nearly impossible. A lot more accessable in brazil.

Another motivation I have is I HATE wearing rubbers and / or shooting my load in mid air. Also having more options than BBBJCIM is nice. BBBJ is all good but I like blasting my load deep in raw pussy and then spending the night in bed, waking up the next morning and doing that all over again. I am old enough to never allow myself to be in the position where I can't wait until she leaves.

OK, nuff said. Bottom line the girlfrind thing, here in a 3rd world country with non desperate girls, is cheaper than working girls here AND definately cheaper than US girlfriends.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

HeatLuver. I would ask the same questions if I were you.Of course I ask myself the same questions. I wrote the book on devilish vieja behavior. Never want to be labeled as the Wester Union Novio or the Gringo Pato. Je je LOL Good luck keep doing your thing and see what happens.

[Hillbilly69]

in fll waiting for flight just got back. cartagena was good. lots of pics. beach was awesome friday but died on weekend probably barranquilla carnaval. still was good.

ldv only went there twice some lookers tagged team a blonde for 125k each great body.

electra some hot ones last night but we got there at 3am it opens at 2am. lots of lookers we took 2 to go lol.

nice ones there too.

beach girls were 50-100k pesos. [28-55 dollars more or less]

beach was there at playa hollywood 100 feet wide but still alright.

youcan's take on tony accurate he seems to be a little timid being a little focker now.

it was a pleasure locogringo and speedbump. i will post few pics later tomarrow.

[Artful]

This is probably my 4th or 5th report on Cartagena. To be honest, as LDV and Elektra are the focus of my attention not much else changes except the prices and currency exchange rates. But in the interests of giving back I'll report anyway.

This may have been my first time visiting in February. It was a perfect time. The weather, although windy, was perfect. Sunny every day and warm but not oppressively so. The weather in this trip allowed me to roam around centro a lot more and reminded me that CTG is probably one of the most beautiful cities in South America.

LDV:

LDV has barely changed in 5 years, Although the exchange rates have changed, the volume of chicas is the same. I don't recognise the reports other mongers have made that the place is now dominated by hardcore putas. In fact, what I find incredible about LDV and Colombia in general is that although a girl may have worked there for years, if you treat her right she could still be very GFE.

Prices: I think it's realistic to get TLN for $200. $250COP. This is in my experience. However, I always bought plenty of drinks which no doubt softened them up. So maybe add £100kCOP to this for the actual price.

Elektra:

This is the place where everyone goes at the end of the night. The dregs of all Cartagena's puti clubs arrive at Elektra from 4am. This includes: Isis, Queens, LDV, Pleybey and infiintely more places. Prices are a complete free-for all. Probably a minimum of $150kCOP for whatever time you can negotiate. Good fun.

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[Black Hawk69]

As many of you know, Cartagena is a very special city to me for many reasons, with the biggest reason being the amount of great friendships I have established through the years. The thing I hate the most about Cartagena, a city with over a million people, is that it is hard to get purposely lost if you stay in the Laguito or Bocagrande area. Everyone knows everybody, and word travels as it was on teletype, telegraph or television.

On this trip, I have been making a strong point to have my stay be as private as possible, as I am basically here visiting a couple of nonputas, and did not want other friends coming knocking on my door, or having security call me. I actually had told Gonzo about this when we were eating breakfast in the morning, telling him that there were two girls especially I did not want to see.

So what happens, I walk my girlfriend out to get a taxi, and I happen to run into Gonzo again. I speak to him for about 5 minutes, and lo and behold, one of the two girls I said I did not want to let know I was here walks up to me and Gonzo, and says my name, and begins the questioning. This particular girl is not a girl that frequents the Laguito area, and infact, lives quite a ways away.

The moral of my story is. Cartagena is a city of a million people, but a person can try to hide, but eventually you will be found. Next thing I know I have the regular working girls who live across the street from the building my apartment is located in calling for me. It is now time to move on to El Rodadero.

[Hillbilly69]

A little more info.

I ran into a hostel in Centro not far from Electra it is called ElviaJeroHostels at

http://www.hostelcartagena.com/en/hostel-cartagena/tarifas-hostel

Rooms seem cheap chica friendly? Not sure.

Also a Intercontinental and a Sheridan is getting built in Bocagrande and a New Raddison Hotel on Las Americas beach.

[John Gault]

As many of you know, Cartagena is a very special city to me for many reasons, with the biggest reason being the amount of great friendships I have established through the years. The thing I hate the most about Cartagena, a city with over a million people, is that it is hard to get purposely lost if you stay in the Laguito or Bocagrande area. Everyone knows everybody, and word travels as it was on teletype, telegraph or television.

On this trip, I have been making a strong point to have my stay be as private as possible, as I am basically here visiting a couple of nonputas, and did not want other friends coming knocking on my door, or having security call me. I actually had told Gonzo about this when we were eating breakfast in the morning, telling him that there were two girls especially I did not want to see.

So what happens, I walk my girlfriend out to get a taxi, and I happen to run into Gonzo again. I speak to him for about 5 minutes, and lo and behold, one of the two girls I said I did not want to let know I was here walks up to me and Gonzo, and says my name, and begins the questioning. This particular girl is not a girl that frequents the Laguito area, and infact, lives quite a ways away.

The moral of my story is. Cartagena is a city of a million people, but a person can try to hide, but eventually you will be found. Next thing I know I have the regular working girls who live across the street from the building my apartment is located in calling for me. It is now time to move on to El Rodadero. Senior Black Hawk,

Lets see, far better water and beach. Lower prices and you are mostly unknown. Leave CTG to the Newbes who are now flocking there.

[Otiers]

I just got back yesterday from a disappointing trip to Bogota and read the last eight pages of Cartagena reports. Seems like the same old arguments going on with a few good reports. Main thing is to have fun. I will be submitting a report later on Bogota but want to say that all those that say Cartagena is expensive, just go to Bogota for sticker shock.

I was looking forward to going to Cartagena in mid-April, but because of our great bureaucratic Nazi embassy in Bogota, my wife and son will not be leaving Colombia. So there is no need for me to visit in April to bring them home. After close to eight years of marriage, joint bank accounts, shared ownership of property in Colombia, and emotional support for many personal tragedies in our families, the embassy (one lady in particular) decided we did not have a valid relationship.

I am sorry to hear that Playa Hollywood has shrunk, but in a way that is OK. On those hot days, it was difficult to run to the beach without burning the feet. Although Tony can be a pest, he did well for me and get me quality. He must still be battling illness if he has lost weight.

It is very difficult to get a BBBJ in Bogota and have had no problem getting this in Cartagena. Also, in Bogota, I had to pay extra for DATY. Does not make much sense because the girls are the ones that get the enjoyment, plus it gives them a chance to lay back and let us do the work. It is sort of like paying a plumber to sit back while you apply the pipe wrench.

I will write my report on Bogota tomorrow, so if you are interested in going there, I have new information on some new places to go and some that appear to be closed.

Hopefully, I will be meeting some of you in person in the future and have a drink. My wife will be starting a business in our neighborhood near one of the universities. It will be a bar / hot dog stand / mini market place that attracts many of the college students going to and from class. Previously, it was run by a friend of hers. It is kinda of a great place to sit back and cool out while young college girls stop by. My wife knows many of the beauties and they would like to meet some gringos for dinner and drinks and some quality alone time with her new novio. I hope my wife is able to take pictures to provide to anybody wanting to visit. More later in a few months.

[Tiny 12]

Otiers, I for one would be very interested in hearing more about your ordeal. I'm not sure what country you're from, but it sounds like people at your embassy have gone off the deep end. It's sad that one bureaucrat can have so much power and display such poor judgement. BTW, If you're from the U.S., you should try again in a year or two -- I'm personally familiar with instances where that's worked, although not in Colombia.

[Caliguy 2010]

Otiers, I for one would be very interested in hearing more about your ordeal. I'm not sure what country you're from, but it sounds like people at your embassy have gone off the deep end. It's sad that one bureaucrat can have so much power and display such poor judgement. BTW, If you're from the U.S., you should try again in a year or two -- I'm personally familiar with instances where that's worked, although not in Colombia.Otiers, I am sorry to hear that. I have read most of your posts here on this site and know you have been dealing with this for a long time.

[Talion]

Assuming that you're pulling from the beach or the street it would seem to me to be extremely advisable to be able to check the age of girls that are questionable (and using a generous range at that, better safe than sorry) but I haven't had the problem of having to check cedulas in Colombia before, since I haven't been pulling any street action from the othe Colombian locales I've visited.

Any advice on how to read the cedulas (some SA cedulas are screwy to read, with numbers hidden in other numbers) and also any advice on the prevalence of fakes and ways to spot them (assuming this is a problem at all)

[Otiers]

Otiers, I am sorry to hear that. I have read most of your posts here on this site and know you have been dealing with this for a long time.Caliguy and Tiny12,

Yes it has been an ordeal, but looking back, if I had been more insistent with my wife to come back after six mionths I would not have the problem today. Easier said than dne with a head strong Colombiana. Family is very important to her and she sacrifices her self for them.

We decided to re-open the cafe / bar and she thought it would be a good place for a gringo or other foreign men to sit, relax, and talk to the young ladies that stop and drink, relax after school in the evening. It might not be for everybody, but some guys like to kick back in a relaxed atmosphere and get to know the culture away from the beach and tourist area. That is how I fell in love with the place, but it certainly is not Kansas.

[Havahopeful]

I posted after my first day in Cartagena around February 17. I mentioned hooking up with a girl I met on Cupid and wondering if she was a pro or not. This was a 20 year old very cute girl that was pretty sexual with me very quickly on msn. For background info I'm in my mid 30s and in pretty good shape, speak spanish very well one on one but get lost in groups, am a very good flirt but can't dance worth a damn.

My first day I met Victoria out for lunch and within about an hour we were back at my apartment and about 30 minutes later having sex. She was great and a very cool fun girl. I hung out with her 4 times in my first 10 days in Cartagena and it was hard limiting her to that many days. I know a lot of guys reading this have ideas of hooking up with tons of local non pros. But as I have previously stated this gets very exhausting as they all work and are all free and expect to go out the exact same time and have an amazing way of making you feel guilty when you blow them off. Only real issue I had with Victoria was that she was very young and looked the part and some part of me felt uncomfortable walking around with her. I also definitely got the vibe that she has worked before and maybe was just hoping I would be a different kind of score. After I started to blow her off she called and mentioned needing money to pay for next semester of University but at that point I had already gotten tired of her so I just said sorry I don't have cash on me.

My second day I met another girl that works at the University. Her name is Jesika and she is about 26 but only like 4 ft 9! I love spinners! Again within 2 hours of meeting we were back at my apartment and having sex. While not as hot as Vicky I felt very comfortable that this was just a nice sweet girl that I had a lot more to talk about. She didn't want or try to spend a dime or order anything that was not the cheapest thing on the menu in the 3 times I was out with her. While she was cute and seemed resigned to the fact that it was just good company and sex. Her only complaint was that I always made her leave as I was going out with other friends whenever I'd see her.

Also hooked up with a girl I met the year before on a trip again nice girl and offered sex up the first time I saw her.

I also hooked up with non pros I met in Santa Marta and Barranquilla on this trip.

At the end of the day I think the following:

1 If you are smooth and have success with women at home you will likely have success in Colombia. Spanish is a great help. But if you are good looking and can dance its not absolutley necessary as my friend that met me towards the end of the trip couldn't say 2 words but still hooked up with some cuties.

2. Unless you really put some work into it and the girl thinks you will marry her and take her away (which ends up being more work and more expensive than paying for a pro) you are likely to hook up with the same caliber of talent as you do in your home. Maybe up a level or down a level. For the most part absolutely gorgeous girls arent' giving it up to guys that don't either 1 pay them or 2 are just as attractive as they are.

3. While it is still possible to hook up with cute non pros in Cartagena it has to be the worst city in the country for it. Locals are exposed to too many tourists to make you exotic and they know most single men come to just have sex. Also, although there are plenty of beautiful locals in Cartagena I think the talent in every other city I have been to absolutely kills Cartagena.

[Havahopeful]

I didn't do too much mongering on this trip but the following were my experiences for what its worth:

This is my 5th trip to Cartagena and 3rd where I expected to engage in quite a bit of mongering.

I was alone for quite a bit of this trip and I just seem to enjoy the hobby a lot more when I'm with a fun group of friends and we create a party atmosphere. Also the fact that I had a good amount of success with non pros really reduced my motivation to hunt. For whatever reason thinigs didn't go great on the paying front for me this trip.

All the bars seemed more or less the same as in years past. LDV maybe a little better than I remember Electra a little worse.

I met some great new friends on this trip and did a casa run with them. We went to Casa Rosario which I think had a great laid back atmosphere. You sit at a talbe there are girls all around and you can order drinks etc like any bar. The talent was a little below my standards of the 20-25 girls I saw ther I would rate most at a 6 (hottest girl at LDV is a 9. 5) with a few 7s sprinkled in. My friend had a good session. I negotiated her down to 125, 000 for him. I can't remember what she tried to charge him initially but it was around 200, 000 I believe which shocked me as I thought the casas are much cheaper.

We also went to Pleyclub where the talent was off the charts better. Every girl in there claims to be from Medellin. I sessioned with a girl from there for 160, 000. Although very affectionate in public the session was quite dissapointing and if not for her ridiculously perfect body would have been a waste. I must say that the rooms at Pleyclub were very nice and clean.

I also had Jayson another English speaking beach guy near where Tony has his seats call us some girls during the day. They came over and gave me the party vibe I was looking for. I think we paid each of them 150, 000 which I feel was too high but I felt tired of negotiating. Turns out these girls worked at Isis which kind of pissed me off because Jayson sold it like they were university girls that won't come to the beach as they don't want anyone to see them there. I ran into my girl at Electra a few days later and I must say that she was very sweet and fun just not what was promised.

Finally I took a Calena home from LDV. She quoted something ridiculous and I got her down to 150, 000. Again she was pretty mechanical and not my favorite when I got her back home. We never discussed whether it was TLN or not but I was ready for her to go so it didn't matter. Along with the girl at Pleyboy this was the most mechanical session I have ever had in experiences with about 15 women in Colombia. I wasn't going to complain but must admit I was a little annoyed at her asking for taxi fare to go back to LDV. I told her you are walking 10 buildings away you don't need a cab. To which she responded I can't walk down the street alone at night. Of course I offered to walk her. The constant needling for propinas tired me out on this trip! If the service was good I wouldn't have had any problem but I refused to give in here.

[QueLinda]

[QUOTE=Havahopeful; 1133859]I didn't do too much mongering on this trip but the following were my experiences for what its worth:

This is my 5th trip to Cartagena and 3rd where I expected to engage in quite a bit of mongering.

I met some great new friends on this trip and did a casa run with them. We went to Casa Rosario which I think had a great laid back atmosphere. You sit at a talbe there are girls all around and you can order drinks etc like any bar. The talent was a little below my standards of the 20-25 girls I saw ther I would rate most at a 6 (hottest girl at LDV is a 9. 5) with a few 7s sprinkled in. My friend had a good session. I negotiated her down to 125, 000 for him. I can't remember what she tried to charge him initially but it was around 200, 000 I believe which shocked me as I thought the casas are much cheaper.

Thanks for the report Havana!

I was wondering if you could elaborate on Casa Rosario. What are the hours of operation and location from Laguito (how much taxi fare?) and any other notable Casa's from your little run.

Any information would be much appreciated. I'll be there next week and want to check out some Casas.

Thanks!

[JersheyShore]

Very simple for me to answer. I enjoy being away from my home turf. It is not about if I have to travel to a 3rd world country to get the girls, it is more about wanting to be in a new environment, a new culture, and the girls just go along with it. I never would travel to a particular country or destination for sex. To me that is silly. You need to open your horizons my friend, and when you do, you might be able to see some things you never thought existed.Ok Dude,

Lets make a plan we're ready to storm the beach during the day, then LDV and Elektra at night!

See you next week if you're ready to hang?

[JersheyShore]

[QUOTE=DrTukan OC; 1131096]How's it going guys, I am new to this site and to be quite honest I only signed up because of Blackhawk, YouCan and Gonzo. You guys seem to know what you are taking about and I always listen to men who know what they are saying and have experience as I like to learn from the best! I will be in Cartagena with 8 other buddies from 3/9/11- 3/14/11 we're from Orange County, Ca all males between 28-32.

Hey DrTukan,

How was your vacay? Curious to hear a report.

Was Cartagena able to handle 8 young guys?

We just added 3 more to our group so there will be 11 of us ready to tear it up next week.

Hopefully we don't run out of girls.

[Lusifer69]

Thanks for the report Havana!

I was wondering if you could elaborate on Casa Rosario. What are the hours of operation and location from Laguito (how much taxi fare?) and any other notable Casa's from your little run.

Any information would be much appreciated. I'll be there next week and want to check out some Casas.

Thanks! Are what days are you going? I will be there this Friday till the 24th.

[Havahopeful]

I believe it is open 24 hours a day. I'm not 100% on this. As far as my casa run Pleyclub and Rosario was all we hit as it strated getting late and a lot of us had more than enough to drink. The younger guys in the group hit electra after.

If you have someone you trust in Cartagena I think the best bet would be to have them reccomend a driver to take you on a run. We paid our guy 20, 000 pesos per hour which was a great deal for him and made us feel comfortable.

I heard of another casa. Something like "los angeles" I can't remember for sure. I was told the talent there is excellent but its in a bit of a rough neighborhood.

Jersey as far as going with 11 guys. That sounds like a blast as long as you don't expect to always be at the same bars at the same times.

I would guess there are about 50-70 girls in LDV at peak hour and maybe 30-55 in Elektra. Most likely quite a few of those girls will be below your standards and others will be occupied. Collect names and numbers as you go along and you will be able to have some sick private / semi private parties the last 2 nights.

[Tar Heel Bred]

Does anyone know if Ibatama is chica friendly? Sounds like a good deal. Cheap, clean, a / c, ect in Bocagrande.

[Cuero99]

My first day I met Victoria out for lunch and within about an hour we were back at my apartment and about 30 minutes later having sex. She was great and a very cool fun girl.

After I started to blow her off she called and mentioned needing money to pay for next semester of University but at that point I had already gotten tired of her so I just said sorry I don't have cash on me. I kind of smiled at this one. True keepers are rare, its amazing how us mongers almost always quickly get tired of them, even when they are hot and give good sex. But the first time pull with some new non-pro fine is always great unmechanical fun, and nice in this case that she didn't keep you waiting, well done.

With the nons last summer in CTG I struck out using LatinAmericanCupid. 0 for 5 out of 5 where I actually got their digits, but I am a bit older. As you say Cartagena is not the easiest for non-pros, I have found Medellin difficult too so far. Lima, Peru for nons is a little harder than it used to be but much easier than these places for the guys with more age or lesser game.

[JersheyShore]

Thanks Havahopeful!

Good info, I appreciate it!

[JersheyShore]

As I posted the other day, I now left Cartagena for now El Rodadero!Hey Blackhawk,

No prob bro, we don't arrive until next week so maybe you'll be back in CTG.

There's 11 of us coming from various parts of the East coast all meeting up in Miami then on to Cartagena.

When do you return to Cartagena from El Rodadero?

Look me up we're there until the following week.

Quelinda and Lusifer you're also welcome to join us.

[IntenseMale]

Hey Guys. I'm an middle-aged fellow, who'll be in town for one day as part of a cruise stopover.

My idea is to walk around el centro, have a few beers, a nice lunch and then visit a local place for some fun.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

[IntenseMale]

Hey Guys. I'm an middle-aged fellow, who'll be in town for one day as part of a cruise stopover.

My idea is to walk around el centro, have a few beers, a nice lunch and then visit a local place for some fun with a chica.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

[Mule69]

Hey Guys. I'm an middle-aged fellow, who'll be in town for one day as part of a cruise stopover.

My idea is to walk around el centro, have a few beers, a nice lunch and then visit a local place for some fun with a chica.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.Ask any taxista to take you to casa Roscio. I heard a lot of the working girls go there when cruise ships are in town. They have rooms on site and it is a safe well known brothel.

[LocoGringo]

The 2 best daytime options for quick pussy, when a ship is in are Rosario (like the islands) and Lindas Chicas. Lindas Chicas is more of a lively bar. 160K on site, Rosario is 15K on site. Sme jewels usually available, usually open at 1-2 PM.

[John Gault]

The 2 best daytime options for quick pussy, when a ship is in are Rosario (like the islands) and Lindas Chicas. Lindas Chicas is more of a lively bar. 160K on site, Rosario is 15K on site. Sme jewels usually available, usually open at 1-2 PM.You must mean 150K.

[World Travel 69]

Do you have an address for these two places?


The 2 best daytime options for quick pussy, when a ship is in are Rosario (like the islands) and Lindas Chicas. Lindas Chicas is more of a lively bar. 160K on site, Rosario is 15K on site. Sme jewels usually available, usually open at 1-2 PM.

[Bologna]

He will take you to the supermarket to buy food, liquor, ice, as well as take you to the best place to change your dollars into pesos let me know. He charges only 20, 000 pesos an hour.I've always used ATMs for pesos. Convenient, good exchange rate so I don't have experience in direct exchanges but have thought / read that direct exchanging is not as good ( rate wise )? You prefer exchanging instead of ATMs?

[LocoGringo]

The next time I am in Cartagena (April3rd) I will get the addresses of those 2 and the ones for locals.

[JersheyShore]

Thank you, but unfortunately, some of us have to work once in awhile, so I am leaving to do just that next week, .Thats too bad dude!

I'm sure you would have the time of your life hanging with guys like us. Perhaps something you will be able to experience in the future.

[Havahopeful]

I have gotten some PMs and seen some debate on this forum regarding costs and figured I would add my 2 cents.

I tried to post a more detailed analysis but lost the connection before it would post but here is a recap.

Cheap but good food alternatives

Things are obviously cheaper if you are with a wingman as you can get bottle service at the bars, share the cost of the apartment and beach umbrellas.

Everyone knows about Riquisimo you can get a delicious shishkebob plate for 10, 000 pesos or the specials for 12, 000 pesos. Both are your best options for quality and cost.

I go to Julias for breakfast. Scrambled eggs with ham and cheese, coffee and fresh squeezed juice for 11, 000 pesos.

Bakery across the street from Torre Centauro will sell you a ham and cheese sandwich for 2, 000 pesos. Not a bad option for a cheap lunch.

Beach costs

I only pay 8, 00 for a tent and 2 sit down chairs. Maybe an extra 4, 000 if you want lie down chairs. 30, 000 for the hour massage. 2,500 for an aguilla or 3, 500 for an Aguilla light. 2,000 for a bottle of water.

Make sure you have an agreement on the price of everything before you order or take it.

On this note, Tony is a complete waste at this point. He only charged me the prices quoted above but would still harrass and annoy me all the time for tips and free beers for him. Not to mention the disgusting nose blowing thing he does while touching your drink. He really didn't seem to have a lot of hot girls around in fact Jayson had a much better stable.

I met some friends that had been sitting with him for a few days and what he was charging them was outrageous! Not to mention that even with the 250% prices he would lie to them about how many drinks they had, then screw up the math even more and demand a tip on top of that! I saw him fleece them for 120,000 for something that should have been 40,000. The look of terror on his face when he saw me sit with them was priceless! He even asked me in Spanish not to say anything to them and offered to give me drinks for free.

When I told my friends about this their response was "I don't care about the money I'm on vacation" This is an attitude I often share but not when I feel like I'm being taken advantage of. My response to them was why not pay whats fair and then give a big tip if you feel generous. In fact why be generous with the guy trying to screw you and lying to your face. Go sit with someone honest and reward them!

Alcohol

Ron de Medellin is inexpensive rum and never leaves me with a hangover. If you can get bottle service this is usually your best option. I like starting my night off with a few drinks at home, then dinner then off to Donde Fidel. A small bottle of Ron costs 40, 000 pesos. In the clubs its between 60, 000-90, 000.

In Total
If you are travelling with a wingman and are very budget oriented you can still have a great time in Cartagena eat well, drink quite a bit, and have a pro every day for about 270, 000 (lodging included).

I spent about 450, 000 on average on the days I took a pro home and I really didn't feel that I deprived myself of anything at all. In fact I ate where I pleased and drank probably to excess.

I cannot imagine spending more than 900, 000 a day lodging included if traveling with a friend. This includes 2 pros a day at 200, 000 each.

[Hillbilly69]

You want to save money in Cartagena do these few things.

1] Bring your own soft cooler from USA buy beers for 1250 pesos each 75 cents I buy 2 cases and ice. I hand them out like candy to chics. And Tony gets a few. Lmfao

Been there done that with Tony and his micounted beers and such someone else can be his blow up doll.

2] Avoid using tout at beach. It will cost you double. Girls are 50k to 100k at beach any more than that you got dork stamped on your forehead.

[Dave Carrera]

You want to save money in Cartagena do these few things.

1] Bring your own soft cooler from USA buy beers for 1250 pesos each 75 cents I buy 2 cases and ice. I hand them out like candy to chics. And Tony gets a few. Lmfao

Been there done that with Tony and his micounted beers and such someone else can be his blow up doll.

2] Avoid using tout at beach. It will cost you double. Girls are 50k to 100k at beach any more than that you got dork stamped on your forehead. I always seem to prefer them to what I meet in LDV. Less mileage, softer, more "innocent", more appreciative of being treated nicely. Is 50-100K for a couple of hours what you all find as typical? Few times I engaged, I didn't ask them price but just gave them the $$ as a tip when they left.

Also, my next trip leaves CTG on a Monday; is there much action at the beach on Sunday afternoon? I heard that LDV is very quiet on Sundays. Thoughts?

Dave

[Hillbilly69]

Sundays is the day to be at the beach. If everyday was Sunday@the beach I would live there.

50-100k pesos is for about an hour for beach girls remeber NOT to use a tout or your the sucker.

[Dave Carrera]

Sundays is the day to be at the beach. If everyday was Sunday@the Beach I would live there.

50-100k pesos is for about an hour for beach girls remeber NOT to use a tout or your the sucker. Is there a typical cost for several hours? How about all night? I'd rather not have to make a late trip to LDV if we can "eat in". Suggestions how to staff the bachelors suite for the day AND night on Sunday? Fellow mongeres welcome!

[Hillbilly69]

You have a phone or do you get a phone when you arrive? Ask the beach girls for theirs. And take their picture then a pic of their number so you can keep the names straight. That and you ask them how much be prepared to get lubed. Just make them an offer of 80k pesos or whatever. Worse they can say is no but same chic is double with a tout. That too LDV girls are cheaper by day also just get their number when your there. Comcel phones in Cartagena are 50 k pesos with a few minutes on them. I have my unlocked quad band with extra SIM cards but not everyone goes that route.

[Admin]

When I read your request several days ago, I was thinking "A simple and upfront request" But after you created multiple posts for all sites, I can longer longer sympathize with you or your brother. In fact, I do not believe much of what I read.And that's why I'm not going to bother to delete this guy's photos.

For the record:

1. I'm not anyone's personal fucking secretary.

2. I do not respond to people wishing to get my attention by spamming my forum.

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[Dave Carrera]

Quit being so fucking stupid and ignorant, as you have been in Cartagena on a couple of occasions that I know of.I don't know you, and I doubt you know me. I was simply asking fellow members a question, and your response is "unusual" to put it mildly

[DrTukan OC]

Whats up guys. Sorry Jerseyshore for not reporting earlier as I was swampped with work and was still recooperating. I must say, and I don't say this often, Cartagena exceeded all my expectations! It was a blast! They will definetly be able to handle you and your crowd trust me! We went to all kinds of places such as Cafe Del Mar, Hard Rock Cafe, and the middle of the plaza for food. Places like Tu Candela, Isis and Queens are good to pick up chicks I highly recommend it as we had lots of success there! LDV was ok but I guess I was expecting higher quality and younger girls. I really liked Queen and Isis nice girls with great attitudes and good prices. Tar Heel Bred is out of his fucken mind if he thinks that $65 a day is going to cut it, there is no way you will get any premium ass being a cheapskate, specially if you think you're better than everyone and don't even speak spanish! Your going to look like an idiot! Thanks for your advice Blackhawk it was very useful info. I will be spending this Thanksgiving in Cartagena! It was that good!

[IntenseMale]

The 2 best daytime options for quick pussy, when a ship is in are Rosario (like the islands) and Lindas Chicas. Lindas Chicas is more of a lively bar. 160K on site, Rosario is 15K on site. Sme jewels usually available, usually open at 1-2 PM.
Ask any taxista to take you to casa Roscio. I heard a lot of the working girls go there when cruise ships are in town. They have rooms on site and it is a safe well known brothel.Thanks LocoGringo & Mule69- Appreciate the help.

[Dave Carrera]

We'll be staying at Casa Veranera. All of you are welcome to a little party we'll be having, (including "Mr. Sunshine". Perhaps after a drink or two he'll mellow out?)

Thanks all of you who PM's and responded here for the advice. It seems like CTG is pretty much as we enjoyed the past two years. Looking forward to sharing with you who can't meet me when I return.

[Dave Carrera]

First few rounds on me. Least I can do for all the help.

[Dave Carrera]

I wonder if everyone who's recently visited CTG is still hungover!

[Hillbilly69]

Not much new in Cartagena-Tony is slimmer so is Playa Hollywood. [the beach]

Sidewalks in Laguito still run down as is the sidewalks in Bocagrande.

LDV is sill there and Electra is hopping between 3am and 430 am. So freelance bars are still alive and well.

Centro slowly but surely is getting fixed up a little bit more each trip and seems to have a few more small stores and Hotels popping up.

Intercontinental and a Raddison Hotel getting constructed.

The Poseidon apartment building directly across from LDV is nearly complete.

Still plenty of girls at beach and Tony doesn't seem to be pushing them much. Maybe he gets a cut from the other guy sitting next to him who knows?

Tony is preoccupied with his wife moving to Bogota without him. Boo hoo hoo-LOL.

Mery is doing better after car accident.

Mirador Del Laguito still only letting one girl in per person.

Real estate prices are almost double.

Ran into guy that owns Paraiso Del Marino Club [strip club and girls].I remember when it first opened.

He says it never closes and he has 40 chics there and open 24 hours. Personally never had girl from there but seen some.real nice! .

20 minute taxi ride from Laguito.

Paraiso Del Marino Club

Nuevo Campestre.

Calle 10 No56B-51.

Tel 657-1922.

Manager of Isis is now the manager of Queens.

Tania still works at Isis if your looking for her Hilltopper. LOL

[DrTukan OC]

It is because Black Hawk69 is not posting on this thread, and it is because you have so many losers who have requested and have been provided information, that you do provide back to the forum after they return from there trip, people like Ho Whisperer and Tar Heel Dead, among others. Lastly, it is because of the reasons I just posted on the Medellin thread.You're right Blackhawk, I have been wanting to post more stuff about ctg but have been so damn busy! I also have been checking the forum here and there to see an update from JerseyShore which should be good and one from Tar Heel Bred which should be full of shit! I think I speak for everyone when I say that we are all waiting to hear an honest detailed report from both of you. I am getting real close to booking my next trip to ctg for Thanksgiving weekend BlackHawk just need to finalize a couple things with some of the guys. I should know for sure by the end of April I don't know what your plans are for the Holiday weekend but in case you're in town I would love for you to join us for a day of partying or two! I usually spend the holiday with family here in the O. C. But with me being the only single one in the family and everyone is out by say 11 pm. My evening is just beginning so I think the girls appreciate me more in Cartagena, therefore ill be doing my stuffing over there this year!

[Tar Heel Bred]

It is because Black Hawk69 is not posting on this thread, and it is because you have so many losers who have requested and have been provided information, that you do provide back to the forum after they return from there trip, people like Ho Whisperer and Tar Heel Dead, among others. Lastly, it is because of the reasons I just posted on the Medellin thread.haven't went on my trip yet buddy. Mid April. Be patient.

[John Gault]

haven't went on my trip yet buddy. Mid April. Be patient.Mr. Tar Heel,

You got that off. For sure now we are all waiting for that report to come. All I ask is you to be honest in that report. I think it will be important to other Newbees to see how you made out. Anyone who is interested in doing CTG on the cheap will want to see your report. Myself I will want to see how much money you spent as that seemed to be what most of your questions were about.

Anyway good luck and I hope you have a backup supply of money (ATM cards or friends who will send you emergency cash.) You will see once you find a hot Babe you will wish you had more money to spend on her.

[John Gault]

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Sup fellas. I'm going to Colombia for 2 weeks in March. I'm going to be hitting all the major spots. Medellin, Bogota, Cali, pereira, santa marta, barranquilla, and Cartagena.

I'm young in shape 24 yrd old male that will be trying to game girls in regular clubs and malls but I need a fall back option if it turn up empty handed.

I'm looking for a spots to go to sorta like The Balcony in Brazil and the Del Rey in Costa Rica where I can go and try to shore (get some girls for free)

Can someone give me some spots to hit

Mr. Tar Heel,

My mistake in taking your word rather than doing my homework.

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Sup fellas. I'm going to Colombia for 2 weeks in March. I'm going to be hitting all the major spots. Medellin, Bogota, Cali, pereira, santa marta, barranquilla, and Cartagena.

I'm young in shape 24 yrd old male that will be trying to game girls in regular clubs and malls but I need a fall back option if it turn up empty handed.

I'm looking for a spots to go to sorta like The Balcony in Brazil and the Del Rey in Costa Rica where I can go and try to shore (get some girls for free)

Can someone give me some spots to hit

Mr. Tar Heel,

My mistake in taking your word rather than doing my homework. How's it going Tar Heel, I know you might feel like we are picking on you at this forum but you have to realize that you are the one to blame for all this negative reaction to you. First you said you were going in March now apparently that's changed. Now I have a good question for you, Is $1000 for 2 weeks still your budget? If so, how do you plan to travel to Medellin, Pereira, Cartagena and Cali which are all hours away from each other on that budget? There is just no way dude! The ride and the food will take your $65 per day, where will you sleep? Are you even going to Colombia? I mean my thing is that if you're going to be on such a tight budget why go on vacation and pretend like you can afford it when you can't? Just go on a cruise or something that is all inclusive. Hn we ave you bought your plane ticket? I just don't want to hear you in mid April that you're going in May now and just keep bullshiting everyone, so please answer these questions when you get a chance as I am very interested to hear your answers.

BlackHawk,

Once again I will listen to my elders and the words of wisdom and I will now convince my boys to just hold off on our 2nd CTG trip till 4th of July weekend as it does sound more fun (but is just so damn far away)! Where will you be going on Thanksgiving then? So I'm leaning towards paying the $20 to Jackson so I can get your E-mail address and we can just communicate that way when we're ready to go on our trips. How safe is this site to give my cc info?

[Hillbilly69]

I wouldn't worry about too much Tar Heel have a buddy that went to Medellin then flew to Santa Marta did Rodadero, Tayronna Parque and some towns in between he spend 3000 dollars in 2 months. He isn't a member of this board but if you PM me I will give you his email. He's back down there now but it might be a while before he comes up for air. LOL

[Tar Heel Bred]

How's it going Tar Heel, I know you might feel like we are picking on you at this forum but you have to realize that you are the one to blame for all this negative reaction to you. First you said you were going in March now apparently that's changed. Now I have a good question for you, Is $1000 for 2 weeks still your budget? If so, how do you plan to travel to Medellin, Pereira, Cartagena and Cali which are all hours away from each other on that budget? There is just no way dude! The ride and the food will take your $65 per day, where will you sleep? Are you even going to Colombia? I mean my thing is that if you're going to be on such a tight budget why go on vacation and pretend like you can afford it when you can't? Just go on a cruise or something that is all inclusive. Hn we ave you bought your plane ticket? I just don't want to hear you in mid April that you're going in May now and just keep bullshiting everyone, so please answer these questions when you get a chance as I am very interested to hear your answers.Doing good bro. Trust me I could careless about what anyone on any internet forum has to say about me. Soo the "picking on" as you call it doesn't affect me in the slightest. I came on this forum to get info, which I got. In return I'll post some info of my trip that might help out any future travelers. Yes my trip dates have changed, been pushed back a month. Ill be in Colombia April 11. 27. 1200 dollars will be my budget. And no I am not going to Medellin, Cali ect. Only going to Cartagena, Baranquilla, and Santa Marta. That might be a tight budget for you but it isn't for me. 80 bucks is plenty. Obviously if I was planning on paying females 100 for sex everyday, eating out at restaurants, staying in nice hotels / condos than yea it would be a REAL tight budget. Not pretending anything buddy. Been to Mexico, Brasil, and Costa Rica on similar budgets and did just fine (fucked girls, partied, hell even got some casino time!) Ill leave the all inclusive cruises to teens and old people. Thats not my stezz if you know what I mean. PS tickets have already been bought. Actually had to pay to get the dates changed.

Cheers!

[Hillbilly69]

I doubt DrToucanOC knows what apartment I am staying seeing it is the Penthouse in Mirador but I bet Loco does seeing he built it. A pic of the one you liked Locogringo have fun there in April I have to be in MDE

[Havahopeful]

First off hats off to hillbilly. Some of the best pics I've seen on here in a while. Now I'd love to hear some stories about the different girls!

Actually surprised to see some of those girls on the beach in Cartagena as I rarely see a ton of talent on the beach. Especially of the more fair skinned Paisa variety.

Maybe because I have only been there February / March which is low season. Although perfect weather for me.

Second. Why are people getting so excited about other people's budgets? We all come from different backgrounds and have different definitions of a good time. All I care about is that people aren't rude and never just let people overcharge them because they are foreigners. The older and more successful I have become the more I tend to spend. Less tolerance for: lower rate apartments, working too hard to pick up a non pro or constantly bargain shopping. However, I guaranty you I would have a much better time on a 50 dollar a day budget in Cartagena than on 200 a day in the midwest in March / April.

We don't have to assume that people are picking up pros everyday. I know that I had sex 18 of the 20 days I was in Colombia and only paid on 3 occasions. You can pick up non pros in Cartagena and if you have some game and are good looking and can dance you can even pick them up in regular bars (not needing to set it up during the day or online). Also some nights its just great to chill and get away from the hectic life. Average out those nights with the more crazy nights.

If they are truly non pros it really shouldn't be that expensive. Over my trips I have been with about 7 non pros and the only ones that ordered expensive things were the pros in disguise. In fact the 3 non pros I was with on this last trip always ordered the cheapest thing on the menu whenever we went out. I had to insist that they order more or better options.

My only caveat to the non pro is that the super hot Cartagena non pros aren't that plentiful and will be very difficult to pick up. I don't think this is the case in other cities.

Finally, I have seen instances where a working girl went home with someone knowing there was absolutely no money involved. Happened to a friend of mine on the last trip.

Now lets hear some good stories!