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JeffCooper
02-06-13, 14:41
Thanks HB69 for the pics, you're cruel.
I can't wait to be there.
More pics thresNice fotos!
Thanks!
I agree. Nice fotos. CTG is definitely on my list.
The Main One
02-06-13, 17:59
looks like late august or early september it is. i will definitely pm someone who can show me and maybe a friend the ropes. can't wait!
early september may be alright. october is the rainiest month of the year. i was there during a storm that the thunder was so loud that it set off car alarms. but ctg was still packed with beautiful women. also make sure there are no elections going on. they shut down all the bars.
CartagenaVip
02-06-13, 19:13
Offers you:
Walking city tour, Stripclub guide and touring, private party and bachelor party organizing. Colonial house rentals built for orgy lovers, private parties, swinger parties, etc. I also have a long list of beautiful women escorts, normal girls for regular dating, just tell me how you want them and you got them. Who ever is interested please let me know.
My name is Jorge, native from Cartageana, American raised, I am a well known tour guide of the historic city, I speak perfect english adn spanish and I have lived here for more than 15 years and know the best places for your need. I have been living in the walled city since my arrival and know the tourist hot spots, culture, recommendations, dos and don't dos and everything you should know like the back of my hand.
For more information my number is [Telephone Number deleted by Admin].
Thanks for your time and hope to hear from you soon.
Sincerely,
Jorge
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CartagenaVip
02-06-13, 19:28
Hi I am Jorge, an american raised tour guide of the city of Cartagena, I speak perfect english adn spanish and I can be of great help for you just give me a call and I ll figure it all out for you, I ve been living here for more than 15 years and know where all the hot spots, rentals, stripclubs, girls, etc are like the back of my hand. Give me a ring and we'll get to get to talk. My number is [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]. Hope to hear from you soon.
Regards,
Jorge
Best Cartagena VIP
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More pics thresAs always Hillbilly, nice pics! Can't believe Tony made the cut! LOL!
Mojo Bandit
02-07-13, 09:27
Cartagena picsNice photos, is this Playa Hollywood? For some reason the sand looks lighter than I remember? I thought the beach in some of the photos even looked like the pictures I have seen of Islas del Rosario.
Mojo Bandit
02-07-13, 09:30
Hi I am Jorge, an american raised tour guide of the city of Cartagena, I speak perfect english adn spanish and I can be of great help for you just give me a call and I ll figure it all out for you, I ve been living here for more than 15 years and know where all the hot spots, rentals, stripclubs, girls, etc are like the back of my hand. Give me a ring and we'll get to get to talk. My number is [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]. Hope to hear from you soon.
Regards,
Jorge.
Best Cartagena VIP.
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I am an American living in Colombia and I have known Fabio for 5 years. Should you have any questions feel free to ask.[/QUOTE]How reliable is Fabio? Can he organize bachelor parties and tours for a small fee, I read all the threads about him and he seems to be a really good wingman, but I don't know him and would like to have more feedback, I need a local wingman to help me understand the culture and to pick up tender and non-pros, please help with some recommendations.
I am planning to visit Cartagena in March. Thanks everybody on this Board.
Gents,
Anyone have any chica friends looking for a hookup for a couple of days / nights next week? I'll be in Cartagena Wednesday, depart Friday. Work related.
My regulars are out of town. One is with me here in Bogota but can't make the trip with me, another is in Cali with mom, the other is who knows where! Just not into the hunt this time.
Staying at the Santa Teresa. Not girl friendly unless she's on the reservation.
Reply or pm me. Thanks!
JB
CartagenaVip
02-08-13, 01:47
Let me know how I Can help you, got plenty of girls just tell me how you want her.
CartagenaVip
02-08-13, 02:45
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CartaAngel
02-08-13, 19:19
I know of someone who will take good care of you, it is a shame I don't have pics of her, if you can contact Fabio the wingman he can send you pics of sexy chicas and non- pros, Last time I was in Ctg he introduced me to some 10's that spoke good English, if interested I can give you Katrina's info
The Main One
02-08-13, 22:34
PM me when you get a chance.
I know of someone who will take good care of you, it is a shame I don't have pics of her, if you can contact Fabio the wingman he can send you pics of sexy chicas and non- pros, Last time I was in Ctg he introduced me to some 10's that spoke good English, if interested I can give you Katrina's info
Kokkieuitbogota
02-10-13, 13:21
Hey bro, I know how frustrating it is trying to figure a lady out, specially if it is a girl you like or love, I know someone that works in one of those bars close to Tu candela, he can help you track her down or investigate on her, lets hope she is not selling booty, Merry Christmas to everyone on this board and website.Every colombian girl with a foreigner is a working girl, it is always for the money.
This is not really true at all, as in all countries you have your working girls and non working girls. I mean if you meet a girl that works as a waitress in a restaurant, there is no reason to think she is out selling her body at night. Not that it doesn't happen, but married women in the US and elsewhere often meet other guys and go out to dinner etc and cheat on there husbands, it doesn't mean there full blown working girls. Life with women is tough no matter how you look at it. Working girls, divorce, cheating husbands and wives, its not easy out there!
Every colombian girl with a foreigner is a working girl, it is always for the money.
I will say basically in every culture women are with men for the money. Not to many smart, goodlooking girls I know in the US wants some bum with no money.
Every colombian girl with a foreigner is a working girl, it is always for the money.
Every colombian girl with a foreigner is a working girl, it is always for the money.Not necessarily. I have been to Cartagena about 15 times in the past ten years and know a few Italians, English, and Americans married to a Colombiana. Me included. I agree that there are many as you described, but isn't that why they are there?
I am heading down in a few weeks. Looking forward to it.
Towelboy2010
02-12-13, 02:53
Hillbilly, I'm an overweight (think of a man that looks nine months pregnant) bald on top, pushing fifty. Other than that, I'm a sexy man. Just how far. And of what quality of woman will the gringo mojo get me in a Cali mall?
How good can a middle aged gringo do?I have been hoping there would be an answer to this question posted on the forum, but it seems to have been skipped.
Do we have an answer for all us middle-aged, pudgy guys hoping to visit Columbia? Ha ha ha.
Thanks, Bob
Hillbilly, I'm an overweight (think of a man that looks nine months pregnant) bald on top, pushing fifty. Other than that, I'm a sexy man. Just how far. And of what quality of woman will the gringo mojo get me in a Cali mall?
This is a serious question, I'm thinking about doing a whirlwind Colombia tour. Medellin, Bogota, Cali. I've got a few of the Cupid. Com ladies I'm talking to but that is so much gaming, . How good can a middle aged gringo do?How good is your "peso-nality"? LOL
The best answer I can give you is that at night when you go out be clean shaven, nice pair of jeans and a shirt that fits you. Don't wear sneakers! Look decent and wear your weight well and you will be fine. Try to practice your spanish! I suck at it and can only string a couple words together at a time but at least I can pick up some and ask some basic questions. Try to find a girl that actually has some interest in you, I have always done this and almost always had great sessions. Don't just try to get the best looking girl in the club without having any chemistry whatsoever. These girls are a much different beast then say Sosua or Puerto Plata girls that practically throw themeselves at you, its nothing like that, the girls in Colombia have a higher sense of class then other countries. I have seen them tell guys no they would not go with them, which you would never see in Sosua. So just follow what I said and you will be fine. Don't look like a slob! Hope this helped.
I have been hoping there would be an answer to this question posted on the forum, but it seems to have been skipped.
Do we have an answer for all us middle-aged, pudgy guys hoping to visit Columbia? Ha ha ha.
Thanks, Bob
LocoGringo
02-12-13, 12:00
Being a good guy is the 2nd biggest asset, giving good wallet is and will ALWAYS be, #1
You got no argument here!
Being a good guy is the 2nd biggest asset, giving good wallet is and will ALWAYS be, #1
Being a good guy is the 2nd biggest asset, giving good wallet is and will ALWAYS be, #1I'd add speaking the lingo as 2nd biggest asset, good guy as 3rd, of course good $$ trumps all usually.
Regardless of all this hearsay I have always had a good time in Colombia, and I always try to connect with a girl that likes me. The dollars were always 2nd.
I'd add speaking the lingo as 2nd biggest asset, good guy as 3rd, of course good $$ trumps all usually.
I will drive my car you drive yours.
QUOTE=Ricker; 1386123]I'd add speaking the lingo as 2nd biggest asset, good guy as 3rd, of course good $$ trumps all usually.[/QUOTE]
I will let you know how I make out on this trip! I leave on Feb 18 for a week.
I'd add speaking the lingo as 2nd biggest asset, good guy as 3rd, of course good $$ trumps all usually.
I'd add speaking the lingo as 2nd biggest asset, good guy as 3rd, of course good $$ trumps all usually.
Regardless of all this hearsay I have always had a good time in Colombia, and I always try to connect with a girl that likes me. The dollars were always 2nd.
... Try to practice your spanish! I suck at it and can only string a couple words together at a time ...
I hear ya amigo, thats why I said 'usually' at the end of my statement.
When there's a good chemestry, all bets are off.
You said your spanish is weak, I remember my pre-spanish days compared to my now very good-spanish days, it's a whole different world, exponentially better with the communication.
And with my really cool personality to boot, hahaha, unbelieveable.
Actually, from your posts here, you seem to be a cool guy, so good for you, and it seems to have paid off for ya.
Have a great time!!
Hi there, I'm thinking about taking my first trip to Cartagena (in fact, to South America) , planning a 2-3 week holiday, in April or May. Want to stay somewhere on the beach which won't break the bank ($300+ per night is out of the question). Don't need 5 star luxury; but want a clean, safe, reasonably pleasant place (for the times when I want to just chill and read etc; don't want a depressing place) which will not charge me something outrageous (or even anything) if I want to bring a girl to my room. Something with facilities like a pool and / or gym would alo be nice, but might be too much to ask for. Anyway, any advice would be much appreciated!
Towelboy2010
02-14-13, 20:42
The best answer I can give you is to go out clean shaven, nice pair of jeans and a shirt that fits you.
Try to find a girl that actually has some interest in you.
These girls are a much different beast then say Sosua or Puerto Plata girls that practically throw themeselves at you, its nothing like that.
The girls in Colombia have a higher sense of class then other countries. I have seen them tell guys NO they would not go with them, which you would never see in Sosua. So just follow what I said and you will be fine. Hope this helped.This did help and thanks. My only mongering experience has been in the Philippines and that seemed a different animal than Columbia simply by reading the reports here. 98% of the girls in the Philippines are ready to go with you, in spite of physical appearance.
I can say that even in the Philippines I practiced the rules above. I always go for chemistry over looks. Just my style. I've never had a bad time either.
Thanks for the advice and I look forward to posting a trip report later this spring.
Yea everything seems to fall into place for me. Its funny, but I am real easy going and always have a good time. I never take myself to serious and it works for me. I try to give people as much info into my escapedes as possible with the thought of helping them if they take one of these trips.
I have always tried to post trip reports because I always remember when I was doing one of my first trips and I searched the internet and found various sites and for the most part people were really helpfull.
So I have always tried to give back, sometimes I will have been out drinking and log on and say some stupid stufff but for the most part I try to be as helpful as possible.
This next trip I am going to try to take many pictures and post them to show the various places and things in Cartagena.
As always when going out there are all kind of variables, thats what I love about traveling you never no who you will meet or how it will work out, I have had some great times traveling both fun and dangerous. But I am still hanging in there!
I hear ya amigo, thats why I said 'usually' at the end of my statement.
When there's a good chemestry, all bets are off.
You said your spanish is weak, I remember my pre-spanish days compared to my now very good-spanish days, it's a whole different world, exponentially better with the communication.
And with my really cool personality to boot, hahaha, unbelieveable.
Actually, from your posts here, you seem to be a cool guy, so good for you, and it seems to have paid off for ya.
Have a great time!
John Gault
02-15-13, 18:35
Yea everything seems to fall into place for me. Its funny, but I am real easy going and always have a good time. I never take myself to serious and it works for me. I try to give people as much info into my escapedes as possible with the thought of helping them if they take one of these trips.
I have always tried to post trip reports because I always remember when I was doing one of my first trips and I searched the internet and found various sites and for the most part people were really helpfull.
So I have always tried to give back, sometimes I will have been out drinking and log on and say some stupid stufff but for the most part I try to be as helpful as possible.
This next trip I am going to try to take many pictures and post them to show the various places and things in Cartagena.
As always when going out there are all kind of variables, thats what I love about traveling you never no who you will meet or how it will work out, I have had some great times traveling both fun and dangerous. But I am still hanging in there!Senior you can Por Favor, clear your message box
Hillbilly69
02-16-13, 15:06
Hi there, I'm thinking about taking my first trip to Cartagena (in fact, to South America) , planning a 2-3 week holiday, in April or May. Want to stay somewhere on the beach which won't break the bank ($300+ per night is out of the question). Don't need 5 star luxury; but want a clean, safe, reasonably pleasant place (for the times when I want to just chill and read etc; don't want a depressing place) which will not charge me something outrageous (or even anything) if I want to bring a girl to my room. Something with facilities like a pool and / or gym would alo be nice, but might be too much to ask for. Anyway, any advice would be much appreciated!I stayed here last trip. www.thelocogringo.com It is on the Laguito beach. It is plenty quiet and dark in the bedroom. Rates are 100 a night. You could stay here a few nights then maybe longer if you like it. You guys familiar with Bbrocs 2 bedroom Lleras apartment is is almost exactly the same as that with a big 8 foot patio on 2 sides. Spacious as hell you could have a few friends over no problem, big living room, dining room, kitchen, big tvs in the bedroom and living room, couches new and comfortable, the a /c was more than ample, hot water worked fine. My only complaint was the maid didn't show up each day to renew the towels. Security at the front desk checks the ID of girls that look younger than 18, there is a beach gate that opens from the beach by day that goes right to your apartment. It is less than 50 feet to the nearest store, right across from the LDV, easy walk to Playa Hollywood, you can rent jet skis right in front of your apartment and is alot more private that some of the other buildings in Laguito where every taxi driver and doorman hollers out your name.
It is on the map now under Martin's Apartment https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83
Do you want a hassle free experience finding beautiful chicas? Are you worried about your safety or about being ripped-off? Then eliminate your worries by using an experienced, reliable and honest guide.
Your guides name is Fabio. He has years of experience guiding and working with gringos. In addition to speaking Spanish, he also speaks fluent English and some Portuguese.
He will make your trip memorable and hassle free.
I am an American living in Colombia and I have known Fabio for 5 years. Should you have any questions feel free to ask.We are a party of 4 going to Colombia next week.
We definitely need a guide of some sort.
How do I contact you?
I'm going to be in Cartagena a little later this week, and it looks like my contact for "party supplies" has changed his phone number. Can someone please PM me their hookup? I'd be happy to pay it back in any way.
Hanging ass, tummy, the list goes on. But also a face like Sophia Loren's, even the weak chin in place. And most of all: sizeable juggs.
Mmm juggs.
DecodedGold
02-27-13, 19:20
Hi all,
I'm a three time veteran of Cartagena and headed back down in two weeks for my first run of 2013. My last trip was the end of December 2012 and was disappointed that one of my favorite places to go called Club Isis was closed. They were moving to a new location inside the walled city and I was told they were scheduled to open in early 2013.
Does anyone know if Isis is open again and if so, has anyone been there who could provide some info on it?
Conversely, I stay in the San Diego area of the walled city and was looking for more places like Isis or Tu Candela that are inside the walled city to find sexy pros. Any info would be greatly appreciated!
Best,
DecodedGold
PS. 1st time posted and happy to be apart of your community!
Hillbilly69
02-28-13, 16:57
Hi all,
I'm a three time veteran of Cartagena and headed back down in two weeks for my first run of 2013. My last trip was the end of December 2012 and was disappointed that one of my favorite places to go called Club Isis was closed. They were moving to a new location inside the walled city and I was told they were scheduled to open in early 2013.
Does anyone know if Isis is open again and if so, has anyone been there who could provide some info on it?
Conversely, I stay in the San Diego area of the walled city and was looking for more places like Isis or Tu Candela that are inside the walled city to find sexy pros. Any info would be greatly appreciated!
Best,
DecodedGold
PS. 1st time posted and happy to be apart of your community!Isis is where Bannanas used to be. Check the map, check inside the Clock tower at night for sexy pros or Elektra.
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83
DecodedGold
02-28-13, 23:00
Thanks Hillbilly69, really appreciate the response!
Most of the girls I have been with have come from LDV or inside the clock tower. In my three times to CTG I have yet to make it to Elektra as it's obviously open later and despite being a young guy, I'm too tired (read: horny) to wait up that late and I've already settled for a girl. However this upcoming trip I'm surely going to check it out and see what it's all about.
That said, if anyone is around March 14-18 and wants to possibly meet up for a beer and talk shop let me know. Additionally if anyone has a stable of girls they want to party with I have an amazing place that is HUGE which I can host a party and / or a super awesome orgy / gangbang at.
Happy hunting fellas!
Lets say I wanted to go to CTG for ten days. What would be a good amount of money to plan on spending after airfare? Condo rental, food, drinks and dancing every night and maybe a chica per day?
Thanks
For me it's 600k pesos / day PLUS accommodation costs. I am sure lots of the people on this board will say this is way too much, but this number is based on actual amounts spend on at least 10 visits over the years, plus a prolonged period of a year that I was living there. When the exchange rate was better it used to be much less, of course.
It's based on partaking in the daytime at the beach, nighttime activity at Tu Candela or LDV etc, followed by Elektra. I know you can do it for a lot less, but when I'm vacationing I don't feel like working hard at saving $$$$.
CTG is expensive.
Lets say I wanted to go to CTG for ten days. What would be a good amount of money to plan on spending after airfare? Condo rental, food, drinks and dancing every night and maybe a chica per day?
Thanks
Any taxista will be able to supply your party.
I'm going to be in Cartagena a little later this week, and it looks like my contact for "party supplies" has changed his phone number. Can someone please PM me their hookup? I'd be happy to pay it back in any way.
For me it's 600k pesos / day PLUS accommodation costs. I am sure lots of the people on this board will say this is way too much, but this number is based on actual amounts spend on at least 10 visits over the years, plus a prolonged period of a year that I was living there. When the exchange rate was better it used to be much less, of course.
It's based on partaking in the daytime at the beach, nighttime activity at Tu Candela or LDV etc, followed by Elektra. I know you can do it for a lot less, but when I'm vacationing I don't feel like working hard at saving $$$$.
CTG is expensive.Wow! So that's just over $300 a day after ticket and lodging. Is that like baller status there or what? My recent trip to Sosua cost me $2000 total for 9 days including airfare, lodging, and about $100 per day play money. Even at only $100 a day, I was still holding back on some days and splurging on others. Buying art, beach trinkets-shit like that.
How long are you in CTG for at that budget? From my earlier research a decent condo can be rented at about $75 a night. Is that still true?
SailingWhorist
03-02-13, 08:16
Does anyone know if Isis is open again and if so, has anyone been there who could provide some info on it?
CoI was in the new location about 2 months ago. The way I used to remember it was an upscale 'girl-bar-club' clean, nice, and upscale women with some non-hunting tourists mingling in and nice hard loud club music.
I'm sorry to say that the new location is nothing like the old, so bad I didn't even stay for one beer ($10). Looked like a very small bar with a dozen or so tables around the walls and a pole in the middle with one girl dancing, the rest of the girls were 'working' the tables. Also looked like mostly colombian tourists in the place, I asked the door guy what kind of music they were playing and he said crossover / mix, it sucked. Sorry for the negative report, but thats how I saw it.
Black Page
03-02-13, 17:36
For me it's 600k pesos / day PLUS accommodation costs. I am sure lots of the people on this board will say this is way too much, but this number is based on actual amounts spend on at least 10 visits over the years, plus a prolonged period of a year that I was living there. When the exchange rate was better it used to be much less, of course.
It's based on partaking in the daytime at the beach, nighttime activity at Tu Candela or LDV etc, followed by Elektra. I know you can do it for a lot less, but when I'm vacationing I don't feel like working hard at saving $$$$.
CTG is expensive.I agree. It can be easily 400k if you avoid wasting money with drinks on the beach or buying bottles at the club, but not less unless you really miss the fun.
Lets say I wanted to go to CTG for ten days. What would be a good amount of money to plan on spending after airfare? Condo rental, food, drinks and dancing every night and maybe a chica per day?
ThanksAgree with Artful and Black Page. 400-600 is a good estimate. It is hard to stick to only one girl a day. I say CTG is minimum "two girls a day" kind of city. :-D. What else is there to do?
Any taxista will be able to supply your party.Agree. But make sure you ask for good quality supplies. Specifically ask for "creepy" supplies. Otherwise you might end up with junk.
Manizales911
03-02-13, 23:22
Agree. But make sure you ask for good quality supplies. Specifically ask for "creepy" supplies. Otherwise you might end up with junk.The locals call it "cripa". Be very very careful, there is high grade stuff that is potent on its own and then there is low grade stuff that has been laced with all kinds of nasty shit to enhance it. I love to indulge back home but when I am in Colombia I won't touch the stuff with a ten foot pole after what some of my Colombian friends have told me.
The locals call it "cripa". Be very very careful, there is high grade stuff that is potent on its own and then there is low grade stuff that has been laced with all kinds of nasty shit to enhance it. I love to indulge back home but when I am in Colombia I won't touch the stuff with a ten foot pole after what some of my Colombian friends have told me.In general this is good advice and word of caution for anyone looking for party supplies from taxi drivers. Helps if you can tell good stuff from bad stuff, especially if it is not pre packaged. I have personally sourced it many times in MDE and never had any issues. In CTG, I had the girls get my supplies and there were never any issues either. Moderation is also key.
PM me on where to get excellent supplies reliably and safely in MDE (I know this is the wrong thread but posters and readers are the same)
We might be talking about different types of party supplies. I was referring to perico, cripa is skunk. Such is the wonderful world of Colombia, perico is easier to get than cripa.
If you're friendly with a girl there, she'll be a better option than a random taxi driver. Either way, I've never had much of a problem either with supply or quality.
In general this is good advice and word of caution for anyone looking for party supplies from taxi drivers. Helps if you can tell good stuff from bad stuff, especially if it is not pre packaged. I have personally sourced it many times in MDE and never had any issues. In CTG, I had the girls get my supplies and there were never any issues either. Moderation is also key.
PM me on where to get excellent supplies reliably and safely in MDE (I know this is the wrong thread but posters and readers are the same)
Yep, $75 will get you a decent apartment in Laguito from Juan or Mery.
Wow! So that's just over $300 a day after ticket and lodging. Is that like baller status there or what? My recent trip to Sosua cost me $2000 total for 9 days including airfare, lodging, and about $100 per day play money. Even at only $100 a day, I was still holding back on some days and splurging on others. Buying art, beach trinkets-shit like that.
How long are you in CTG for at that budget? From my earlier research a decent condo can be rented at about $75 a night. Is that still true?
Hillbilly69
03-03-13, 00:49
How long are you in CTG for at that budget? From my earlier research a decent condo can be rented at about $75 a night. Is that still true?This site left side 2nd apartment down is Jack's one bedroom apartment in Torre Centuro 7th floor. He had a fire last fall and the apartment is now all brand new with A / C and a daily maid. 50 bucks a night.
http://www.thelocogringo.com/index/select-apartment
DecodedGold
03-05-13, 17:37
I was in the new location about 2 months ago. The way I used to remember it was an upscale 'girl-bar-club' clean, nice, and upscale women with some non-hunting tourists mingling in and nice hard loud club music.
I'm sorry to say that the new location is nothing like the old, so bad I didn't even stay for one beer ($10). Looked like a very small bar with a dozen or so tables around the walls and a pole in the middle with one girl dancing, the rest of the girls were 'working' the tables. Also looked like mostly colombian tourists in the place, I asked the door guy what kind of music they were playing and he said crossover / mix, it sucked. Sorry for the negative report, but thats how I saw it.Hey SailingWhorist,
Thanks a lot for letting me know. Once I heard they took over Bananas I had a feeling it wouldn't be as good as I once walked into Bananas and it was just as you described it now, which is unfortunate.
Your assessment of the previous Isis location was spot on and why I loved it so much. Had great upscale women in a nice, clean bar. Still, I'll walk in and give it a whirl in hopes that there is a least one hottie worth spending a night with!
Thanks again.
SoloAdvntrer
03-05-13, 23:27
So I'll be visiting the historical city of Cartagena around May. This will also be my first time visiting Colombia. I've been to a few countries, such as the DR and Ecuador. And its interesting how different the women behave when comparing the two places. The working girls of Ecuador seemed more mechanical, showing very little or no affection. Which disappointingly makes sense since a woman working at a chongo must deal with a lot of shit which can harden them up a bit. Which is why I avoided las prepagos, and focused my attention on the solteras which I've done rather well for myself in that department. Now the DR is almost the complete opposite. The women there are friendlier, prettier, and sexier. I could go on and on but that's for the DR forum.
Now I'm asking you guys, how you would characterize the women in Cartagena, is it more like Ecuador, or the DR? Or is it in between the two or is it just in a whole other league. For someone such as myself, who is hispanic, fluent in spanish, and fairly young still will I do well for myself down there? Is it a safe place to visit on my own? I'm the type of person that likes to wonder off the beaten path and makes an effort to hangout at the local spots. Does Cartagena have any spots that our geared solely for locals, or is it all focused on tourists? I also wanted to point out that it seems like looking for a girl in Cartagena, they come with a premium. How much more is that, as appose to Medellin. Just wondering in case I want to kick myself in the ass for booking my trip to Cartagena instead of Medellin. Also, what's a good daily budget for an individual that is there looking for fun? Are there any Casas de Citas and if there are what's the average rate at these places? How are the strip clubs down there, are they worth the visit? And most importantly, is it worth visiting Baranquilla or Santa Marta? I sure hope this post is enough to spur some sort of a discussion where I could gain some more insight to better prepare myself towards my future travel.
Thanks for the answers on my cost inquiry. CTG is only about $100 more for airfare than POP airport in the DR [from where I am flying out of right now. ] It seems hotel / condo rental will be a little bit more as well, but at least double / triple the cost in the daily expenses compared to Sosua, DR. I did have a blast in Sosua and thought there were more than enough beautiful women around on any given day. Plus, one thing I think the DR may have over CTG [correct me if I'm wrong, ] are the beaches. I thought Playa Sosua was very close to some of the beaches in Hawaii, my old home state. Also, I hear that CTG requires you to speak more Spanish than Sosua. If all this is true I may have to wait until I can speak enough Spanish to hold a decent conversation with a chica and maybe even a promotion at work to help pay for it LOL.
Bottom line-how worth it is it to visit CTG over the DR? Beaches are paramount to me and it seems DR has a lot more options as far as coastal towns to visit besides Sosua. Crime and corruption fall in place as well and I've read much in the DR forums on this subject. I haven't followed the Columbia forums in over a year but know that what happens in Colombia stays in Colombia-like your ass if you get caught breaking a law.
CTG [along with Thailand and Philippines, ] are on my to-do list before I die or get married, whichever comes first. But I want to do it right and may just have to use the DR and Sosua as a stepping stone for my Spanish, latin dancing, and mongering skills for the time being.
Any thoughts are appreciated.
Black Page
03-06-13, 11:28
I agree. It can be easily 400k if you avoid wasting money with drinks on the beach or buying bottles at the club, but not less unless you really miss the fun.Let me be more specific on how this total sums up. I consider:
- 90k for a good dinner in El Centro (my best choice: Santisimo) ;
- 200k for the girl (TDL with average negotiation skills)
- 50k+ for drinks at night (spending money for alcoolic drinks at the beach is a nonsense for me)
- 50k+ for various other expenses daytime, incl. lunch, taxis, etc.
Shiit! CTG is expensive! :eek:
(and I spent 100k-150k for a young girl + mamasan at my favourite casa at daytime too!)
CartaAngel
03-06-13, 16:50
Hey, Solo welcome to the board, to answer your questions accurately, I will tell you that if your Spanish is good you'll do pretty good with the chicas in Colombia, of course Colombian women are very warm and affectionate, if your skills as a player are damn good you won't need to be dealing with putas or paying for sex, just get a good tour guide to show you around and take you to where the Gems are "non-pros" I have noticed many of us here don't either know about where to find them or mention about them
Hey, Solo welcome to the board, to answer your questions accurately, I will tell you that if your Spanish is good you'll do pretty good with the chicas in Colombia, of course Colombian women are very warm and affectionate, if your skills as a player are damn good you won't need to be dealing with putas or paying for sex, just get a good tour guide to show you around and take you to where the Gems are "non-pros" I have noticed many of us here don't either know about where to find them or mention about themThanks. This is what I wanted to hear.
Let me be more specific on how this total sums up. I consider:
- 90k for a good dinner in El Centro (my best choice: Santisimo) ;
- 200k for the girl (TDL with average negotiation skills)
- 50k+ for drinks at night (spending money for alcoolic drinks at the beach is a nonsense for me)
- 50k+ for various other expenses daytime, incl. Lunch, taxis, etc.
Shiit! CTG is expensive! .
(and I spent 100k-150k for a young girl + mamasan at my favourite casa at daytime too!) So this comes out to about $220-$300 a day for a good time in CTG. Damn, I'd hate to see how much a good day in Rio would cost. Say I was willing to forget the beaches for a vacation and do Medellin instead. How much cheaper-if at all-would it be going there instead of CTG? The main reason for Colombia is to try out the Colombian women, not the sand.
Hey guys,
I'm new to the group. A group of my friends is headed to Cartagena for my friends bachelor party in may. It will be everyone's first time except for me. I was wondering if any of you guys new a reliable guide / concierge to kind of lead us around to where all the good looking ladies / parties are and at the same time make sure we are not getting ripped off. If this guide were good we would use him for the next bachelor party we are having at the end of the year there.
Hey,
A group of me and my friends are headed to Cartagena in May for my friend's bachelor party. We are looking for a reliable and honest guide / concierge to show us the best spots to meet up with chicas / ladies while avoiding getting ripped off / taken advantage of. Anybody have any suggestions? It would really be appreciated. If done well we would use him on our next trips.
Hey a few my friends and I are headed to Cartagena in may for my friend's bachelor party. We are looking for a reliable / honest guide to lead us to right spots for the chicas and parties. If he did a good job we would use him on the next trip we are having at the end of the year.
CartaAngel
03-08-13, 01:55
[QUOTE=DogAndCat
I recommend Fabio the wingman to you, he is very reliable, he knows lots of fresh girls, I know other tour guides in case you need to choose but Fabio is the man, try to google him, fabio the wingman / driver, and send him an email if you can't find him let me know and I will PM his contact info to you
So I'll be visiting the historical city of Cartagena around May. This will also be my first time visiting Colombia. I've been to a few countries, such as the DR and Ecuador. And its interesting how different the women behave when comparing the two places. The working girls of Ecuador seemed more mechanical, showing very little or no affection. Which disappointingly makes sense since a woman working at a chongo must deal with a lot of shit which can harden them up a bit. Which is why I avoided las prepagos, and focused my attention on the solteras which I've done rather well for myself in that department. Now the DR is almost the complete opposite. The women there are friendlier, prettier, and sexier. I could go on and on but that's for the DR forum.
Now I'm asking you guys, how you would characterize the women in Cartagena, is it more like Ecuador, or the DR? Or is it in between the two or is it just in a whole other league. For someone such as myself, who is hispanic, fluent in spanish, and fairly young still will I do well for myself down there? Is it a safe place to visit on my own? I'm the type of person that likes to wonder off the beaten path and makes an effort to hangout at the local spots. Does Cartagena have any spots that our geared solely for locals, or is it all focused on tourists? I also wanted to point out that it seems like looking for a girl in Cartagena, they come with a premium. How much more is that, as appose to Medellin. Just wondering in case I want to kick myself in the ass for booking my trip to Cartagena instead of Medellin. Also, what's a good daily budget for an individual that is there looking for fun? Are there any Casas de Citas and f there are what's the average rate at these places? How are the strip clubs down there, are they worth the visit? And most importantly, is it worth visiting Baranquilla or Santa Marta? I sure hope this post is enough to spur some sort of a discussion where I could gain some more insight to better prepare myself towards my future travel.Solo Advntrer.
I have visited both places. Cartagena many times like the hot weather and beaches though the beach in Cartagena is that great/
Cartagena has gotten expensive was just there in Feb. Food is expensive at least in the tourist area. Even the condos have gone up in price.
But you can find cheap airfare there.
My spanish is very limited and I am average looking but have blue eyes and that helps. I picked up a girl asked her to lunch the next day. She ended up going home with me that
Night left about midnight I gave her 150, 000 pesos more than I normally would because she was wild in bed. Pretty she she was a working girl, but she proceded to stay.
The next 5 nights with me and did not ask for money. So it is pn the possible to find local chicas.
But also watch out for the chicas on the beach agreeing tor 100, 000 pesos and then saying the price was 100 us dollars. This happened to me and if I did not know for.
Sure that we agreed on pesos I would have payed her the extra money. But when we nogotiated the price I talked with one of her friends that spoke english and was sure of the
Price,
Now I was in Medellin just once and was with a girl for most of the time, but had a few days to my self. I found the strip club I went was more expensive than Cartagena.
And the girls where not as good.
But I found the waiter-bouncer at this reggae bar in the parque Arearas not sure if I am spelling that correct. But he spoke english and could hook you up with some very hot young.
Chicas for 200, 000 pesos.
Another place you might want to consider is Cali. Chicas are very good looking and food is much cheaper and from reading the posts girls are much cheaper.
I also know a guy that lives there that would be very happy to show you the places to go. He does not speak english.
I meet him on my last visit to Cali in may. I was dating a girl from there that time.
One other thing I noticed that a good place to pickup young hot chicas is the main street that goes from the hilton to Hollywood beach.
There are condos there and a few chicas walk up the street and may approach you or you can talk with one of the guys standing there.
I saw a few 9 and 10; s there for around 150,000 pesos
So this comes out to about $220-$300 a day for a good time in CTG. Damn, I'd hate to see how much a good day in Rio would cost. Say I was willing to forget the beaches for a vacation and do Medellin instead. How much cheaper-if at all-would it be going there instead of CTG? The main reason for Colombia is to try out the Colombian women, not the sand.Purely for amount of sex, MDE "casas" are hard to beat. Heck for $100, you can have sex with three or four Colombianas. If you want quality fun in the evening with a hottie, dinner and drinks, MDE is equally expensive, if not more. It all depends on what you want. For me, I am a night guy. I do day time casas only when I have nothing better to do. As I have said many times before, CTG is easier to navigate as it is smaller and concentrated. For nighttime fun in MDE, you have to work harder, unless you have contacts or friends with good contacts :-D.
Hey SailingWhorist,
Thanks a lot for letting me know. Once I heard they took over Bananas I had a feeling it wouldn't be as good as I once walked into Bananas and it was just as you described it now, which is unfortunate.
Your assessment of the previous Isis location was spot on and why I loved it so much. Had great upscale women in a nice, clean bar. Still, I'll walk in and give it a whirl in hopes that there is a least one hottie worth spending a night with!
Thanks again.I am really bummed to hear about Isis. That was my favorite club, probably in all of Colombia. It had good good ambiance, beautiful classy women, good music etc. What a shame.
DecodedGold, Sounds like the bar went to shit but please give us a report on the women.
I just returned from a twelve day trip to Cartagena splitting time between family and fun time with chicas. My wife was not to arrive until three days after my arrival and my stepson a few days later.
I stayed at the Mirador del Laquito Apt 1002 which I arranged through Mery. It has two bedrooms, three flat screen TVs, two stereos and Wifi. After getting supplies at Olympica, I decided to head to the pool to spend the rest of the afternoon. There was a very good looking girl lounging poolside with her headphones on just relaxing. I was in the pool drinking a beer and just not thinking about too much when the lovely young thing asks if I had an extra beer. I gladly gave her one and proceeded to inquire about her status. I figured she was on a working vacation, but did not want to ruin a good conversation by suggesting she was available for cash. Her name was Maria and was from Perriera. A 21 year old about 5'8' 115 lbs and 34Cs will always catch my eye and I was not about to let this one get away.
I asked Maria if she would like to come up to my apartment for cocktails. She agreed to come up, but wanted to change clothes. After 45 minutes, I figured she would be a no-show, but soon rang the bell. We drank a couple vodka tonics and talked about her hometown, soon I found out she was in town for one more night and needed to make some money. I offered some financial support and we agreed to 200K for three hours. We headed to the bedroom and since we had both just showered, she removed her clothes to reveal a perfect body with long legs all the way up to a perfectly firm round ass, flat stomach and breasts the seemed to be filled with helium the way they did not droop. Maria, was able to deep throat me with ease, but with my shortcomings any girl might be able to accomplish that. She enjoys doggy style, but prefers being on top and reverse cowgirl. Her pussy tasted like fresh fruit and had a perfect shape to it. I was able to cum after 30 minutes which is good for a 58 year old man, but the next two hours would need special attention to complete the task. I love the way Colombianas make you feel special. After three hours, she left and later I bought her a drink at LDV before I headed back for some well needed sleep.
The next day, I took a walk around and headed to visit Tony at the beach. Tony's setup seems inferior now that there are all of the newer cabanas beachside and Tony has about three or four old umbrellas and chairs. Tony did not have any girls at the beach while the other touts had some nice looking girls that would rate an 8 or 9. Tony sat me in one of his chairs and pestered me into buying a beer for him while he called a few girls. Tony knows what I like – slender, young, nice legs, tight ass and sweet temperament. Soon Lisbeth showed up and I liked what I saw although she had braces. She asked for 250K for 90 minutes and I countered with 150K for 3 hours which is what I usually pay. Lisbeth has previously worked a year in Medellin and two years in Bogota. While only 24 years old, she has had a busy life so far. She said she would agree to 300K for three hours, but I laughed and said she is no longer at Lalos in Bogota. We did agree on 200K for three hours.
Lisbeth and I spent the next three hours getting to know each other. Her body is slender with 34Bs and a perfect ass. She offered anal, but I could hardly get a finger in her ass let alone my cock. So we played a lot with each other's bodies and was able to cum three times with her. She loved being on top and between sessions, she loves to wrap her arms around me and snuggle. After three hours of fun, she stayed for another two hours talking and going on the internet. She gave me her email address and Facebook information. She has about 100 pictures of herself and her friends and family. She has numerous girlfriends some of which are very hot and available. Lisbeth lives in a nice house and from the pictures, it appears she has a very normal life and is not in a dire need of money. It is somewhat sobering to see a girl you just fucked and came into her mouth for money and then to see her in a normal living environment. I had great time with her and later she would join my wife and I for a session.
The next day, my wife showed up and she had different ideas for my money. So after a day of shopping and renewing our relationship we headed out for a night. We started drinking shots of Chivas in the apartment, then headed to Plaza Santo Domingo for more Chivas. After dinner, we lost a hundred at the casino, and then headed to LDV. We had a few more shots when my wife headed to the bathroom only to return with a lovely 19 year old from Medellin. Her name was Vanessa and stood about 5'6' and 110 lbs. She had a pair of 36Cs and shorter blond hair. We ordered a drink for her which was good since the club requires a two drink minimum for the girls to purchase or they will not be allowed in the next night. I talked to Aldo about this and he said girls would come in only to quickly leave with a paying customer. I said why not just charge a small cover charge instead of requiring them to purchase expensive drinks.
My wife and Vanessa soon became close friends in the apartment, talking, laughing and dancing. After an hour, we finally headed to the bedroom. I am not a huge fan of threesomes because I feel left out at times. After a couple of climaxes by all of us, my wife passed out and I had a couple hours alone with this beauty sucking and fucking on the living room sofa. I finally climbed into bed around 7 am and then my wife woke me up a few minutes later to take our morning walk. WTF!
The next few days were spent with our stepson going to see the Bruce Willis Die Hard movie and the gory Hansel and Gretel picture. He left a few days later to go back to school.
The final few days were spent with my wife in bed and on occasion, we had Lisbeth join us for some fun.
A very enjoyable couple of weeks and now it is time to get back to work to make money for a return trip.
[QUOTE=Otiers; 1396134]I just returned from a twelve day trip to Cartagena splitting time between family and fun time with chicas. My wife was not to ar. QUOTE]
Entertaining report. Good writing. You are a lucky man.
Great report Vitrea! Where did you meet this special wife of yours? I wish all wives were like that!
Sorry. All that should be directed at Otiers!
I just returned from a twelve day trip to Cartagena splitting time between family and fun time with chicas. My wife was not to ar.Entertaining report. Good writing. You are a lucky man.A agree!
A wife that is cool with the sport is awesome!
Sorry. All that should be directed at Otiers!I actually met her in Cartagena 10 years ago at the Casino. She was with a bunch of older ladies playing roulette and I never played much before and she was helping me. The next day she showed me around the city and things went from there. It was not until about 5 years ago she started to experiment with threesomes and it was her idea! I really do fee llucky. Her only request is that I am discreet since many people know us in Cartagena and she does not want to lose face with the locals.
Anonymous5
03-11-13, 04:12
Hi,
I just returned from Cartagena and had a good time there. My lack of spanish speaking skills and everyone trying to take my money eventually was frustrating. Cab drivers to beer salesman would always try to return me less money then what was the actual difference of what I paid for. Really a lot of hassle.
My major concern and question however has to do with Club Elektra. I heard good things about that place before arriving in Cartagena, but was disappointed to learn that anyone who I asked about the place, taxi drivers, all claimed the place was closed. Can anyone confirm if this is truly the case. Perhaps I misunderstood the taxi's but in many instances. 3 or 4 different taxis, stated they were closed. I wanted to enjoy nights just relaxing, but every night usually consisted of the same. I started by going to LDV, which was close to my apt in El laguito. I would have a few beers and try tot talk with the girls, but they remained within their own groups and quoted horrendously high quotes of 300k. After a few nights of the girls at LDV knowing I wasn't anteing up their price they all just kind of ignored me. I would eventually leave there around 1-2AM and head over to the clock tower area and Tu Candela's. I would get a beer or two and just chill there chatting up a few girls and possibly take back a girl or two on occasion. I ran into an English speaking local who introduced me to some girls, which was cool. He brought me over to Isis and I was not in the mood to pay the prices of the girls or for beers, especially with an absolutely rude staff that they have. I recall asking taxi's outside of Isis, Tu Candela's, and even LDV about club Elektra, but they all claimed, I believed, that the place was closed.
Can anyone please confirm if this is the case. Thanks for your help. Dates traveled 3/3. 3/8.
I believe if my spanish interpretation is correct, is that one taxi told me they got caught in a drug raid. I believe it was my fault for not staying close to the English speaking local, as I didn't have a cell phone to stay in touch, but assumed I could do fine on my own. I suppose I should've just used the payphone to get in touch with him.
Hi,
I just returned from Cartagena and had a good time there. My lack of spanish speaking skills and everyone trying to take my money eventually was frustrating. Cab drivers to beer salesman would always try to return me less money then what was the actual difference of what I paid for. Really a lot of hassle.And that is one of the most annoying things about the coastal cities. Taxi drivers will try and screw you for every single peso they can. I never did understand why they do not have meters like they do in Bogota. Whats really annoying is when you agree on one price, then upon arrival they try and charge you extra due to traffic, stop lights, angry wife. Etc etc.
Really annoying even for a native speaker.
Black Page
03-11-13, 14:17
Hi,
My major concern and question however has to do with Club Elektra. I heard good things about that place before arriving in Cartagena, but was disappointed to learn that anyone who I asked about the place, taxi drivers, all claimed the place was closed. Can anyone confirm if this is truly the case. Perhaps I misunderstood the taxi's but in many instances. 3 or 4 different taxis, stated they were closed. I wanted to enjoy nights just relaxing, but every night usually consisted of the same. I
Can anyone please confirm if this is the case. Thanks for your help. Dates traveled 3/3. 3/8.Elektra was up and running all nighs during my last stay 28Feb-3Mar. I noticed just a little less girls than on my last visit in December, but it must be the period. Please note that Elektra opens at 3am, so if you ask the taxi at 2am they will tell you it's closed.
To be honest, on my first night in CTG I asked a taxi driver about Elektra, and he too told me "it's closed", and then he proposed to take me to Pleyclub. I guess they do not take commission from Elektra, but a significant one from Pleyclub.
Anonymous5
03-11-13, 17:24
Elektra was up and running all nighs during my last stay 28Feb-3Mar. I noticed just a little less girls than on my last visit in December, but it must be the period. Please note that Elektra opens at 3am, so if you ask the taxi at 2am they will tell you it's closed.
To be honest, on my first night in CTG I asked a taxi driver about Elektra, and he too told me "it's closed", and then he proposed to take me to Pleyclub. I guess they do not take commission from Elektra, but a significant one from Pleyclub.That was probably the case. I didn't realize how close Elektra was from the clock tower, until after returning home and looking at hillbilly's map. I suppose I should have just walked there myself to find out the real truth, as you are correct in that many taxi's did try to direct me to Pleyclub. It was another frustration that I dealt with I suppose, as I felt most people there were being dishonest about just everything. I should have done better homework and research regarding Cartagena, and I likely would've had a better experience.
In another example of dishonesty, I went to the beach outside of the Hilton (had a connect there which allowed me to use the pool area) and guys would try selling me on jetski's. I really wanted to ride one on my visit but didn't want to make it too obvious to these guys. They started off with an offer of 150k for 30 minutes to which I just balked at and didn't even offer a counter proposal. They kept on going from 120k, then to 100k without me even making a counter. Eventually they got to around 80k for 30 min. They finally asked me what I was willing to pay and I said 50k for 30 min. They said that's not possible. Eventually led them to offer 70k and then down to 60k for 30 min, which I finally agreed to. Right before getting on the jetski's I asked 4-5 different people what the exact time was to make sure the guys didn't try to end my jetski time prematurely, as I was not carrying my cell phone into the water. I rode around for what felt like 20 some odd minutes and noticed the guys at bay waving their hands, signaling that my time was up. I assumed they were probably just lying and continued to ride around for another 2-3 minutes doing a few wave jumps and circles in deep water. When I got back to shore, I asked the guy what the time was and even looked at his watch for confirmation. Ity appears the guy went to the length of changing his time on his phone to make it look as though I used up all my time. I then asked two other people, not involved in the sale, what the time was and it was 8 minutes behind what the guy told me it was. I basically got 22 minutes of riding and was kind of pissed that I lost out on 8 minutes of riding.
This kind of scenario of dishonest dealing left me a bit soured on the place. Everyone appears to be so sketchy and it felt as though you couldn't trust anyone, even with the most harmless amount of intel. If I was standing outside the clock tower and asked someone for the time, and had visual confirmation from the clock tower, I would still be skeptical as to what they claimed to be the time. All in all, I wanted to have fun in Cartagena, and did to an extent, but I felt my trip became soured as I felt too many people there were dishonest and ruined my chances of having an even better time. A modicum of honesty can go a long way, and the people I dealt with were far from it. If they acted in an honest and respectful manner, I'd be more willing to use their services later on, even in a follow up visit, but it appears they just try to extract the most they can from you without regards to common business courtesy.
Again, I probably should've done better research on this site and stayed glued to the map provided by hillbilly. I should've just trusted myself and you guys for the intel for areas and places to go.
CartaAngel
03-11-13, 23:05
I hear you, I think any traveller that's gone to Colombia, has experienced this BS from Locals, That happened to me in MDE, Bogota, CTG but guys let me tell you that in Santa Marta it is even worse, and no matter where you go, cheap or expensive restaurants food just tastes bad there, Santa marta needs better chefs, I am sticking to CTG for now since I have friends and connectios there to keep away from the BS.
That was probably the case. I didn't realize how close Elektra was from the clock tower, until after returning home and looking at hillbilly's map. I suppose I should have just walked there myself to find out the real truth, as you are correct in that many taxi's did try to direct me to Pleyclub. It was another frustration that I dealt with I suppose, as I felt most people there were being dishonest about just everything. I should have done better homework and research regarding Cartagena, and I likely would've had a better experience.
In another example of dishonesty, ...................... A modicum of honesty can go a long way, and the people I dealt with were far from it. If they acted in an honest and respectful manner, I'd be more willing to use their services later on, even in a follow up visit, but it appears they just try to extract the most they can from you without regards to common business courtesy.
Again, I probably should've done better research on this site and stayed glued to the map provided by hillbilly. I should've just trusted myself and you guys for the intel for areas and places to go.Thank you for your posts and sorry about the no-so-great experience you had. To answer your question, in my experience, it is not the norm. The take home here is that you need some basic spanish skills if you want to venture solo in Colombia. The difference between, "cerrado vs cerrado ahora" can be subtle and can be missed. Also, I notice that once people realize that you do not know even a little bit of their language, they do not make much of an effort to explain the details. Alternatively, one can potentially run into unscrupulous taxi drivers anywhere in the world. I cannot tell you the number of times I was nudged to go to a different strip club in the US. You just hear what they have to say and ignore them. CTG, unlike BOG and MDE is a tourist place and is no different from other tourist towns all over the world. Glad you did not let that get to you and still managed to go out. Personally, I never had any issues with taxis in CTG. I have travelled extensively and I must say without a doubt that Colombians are one of the most honest people within the developing world.
The jet ski guy does sound like an asshole.
Anonymous5
03-12-13, 05:34
I hear you, I think any traveller that's gone to Colombia, has experienced this BS from Locals, That happened to me in MDE, Bogota, CTG but guys let me tell you that in Santa Marta it is even worse, and no matter where you go, cheap or expensive restaurants food just tastes bad there, Santa marta needs better chefs, I am sticking to CTG for now since I have friends and connectios there to keep away from the BS.I didn't even try Santa Marta while there. Hearing about your stories, I'm glad I didn't. Was only in CTG for 5 days regardless. Even with the hassles, I still think I may end back there one day.
Hi guys,
Am thinking of going to Cartagena mid April for 3/4 nights.
I have been to St Maarten many times and it seems that prices are half at the source, Colombia.
Ideally, I would like to find a chica (or 2) early afternoon to hang with til the next morning.
Is there a Seamans / Carolinas case type scene in Cartagena where I can take out a chica to play with in the day time and beyond?
Seems from reading the forum there is a lot of freelances around.
Also, I just checked out PLAYA MAR APTS, right on the beach. Looks good, any opinions on that too? Or good central beach places for around 100 bucks per night?
Many thanks.
Anonymous5
03-12-13, 07:08
Thank you for your posts and sorry about the no-so-great experience you had. To answer your question, in my experience, it is not the norm. The take home here is that you need some basic spanish skills if you want to venture solo in Colombia. The difference between,"cerrado vs cerrado ahora" can be subtle and can be missed. Also, I notice that once people realize that you do not know even a little bit of their language, they do not make much of an effort to explain the details. Alternatively, one can potentially run into unscrupulous taxi drivers anywhere in the world. I cannot tell you the number of times I was nudged to go to a different strip club in the US. You just hear what they have to say and ignore them. CTG, unlike BOG and MDE is a tourist place and is no different from other tourist towns all over the world. Glad you did not let that get to you and still managed to go out. Personally, I never had any issues with taxis in CTG. I have travelled extensively and I must say without a doubt that Colombians are one of the most honest people within the developing world.
The jet ski guy does sound like an asshole.Update, I just spoke with the English speaking local who helped me out my first few nights in town. I never asked him specifically about Elektra while in CTG. I just spoke with him briefly over the phone, and asked him about Elektra as well as a few other things. He claimed Elektra has been closed for about a week now because the owner didn't pay rent or something like that, said he was always in the casino's gambling. Elektra being closed may actually have legs to it, as cab drivers who were dropping me off at clock tower / Tu candela's, after refusing PleyClub, would have no incentive at that point to lie about Elektra being closed. Having heard from my English speaking local friend, I have more conviction in my belief that it was in fact closed during my stay 3/3-3/9. My Eng speaking local friend said it had been closed for about a week, which would coincide with my stay there exactly, and also be around the time the previous poster Blackpage saying it was open from 2/28. 3/3. I didn't even inquire about elektra on my first night there 3/3. Perhaps it is in fact closed, which I walked over there myself to be 100% positive. It does appear to be a temp closing according to my friend, as the guy may in fact settle his dues and it will reopen at some point.
My nights in CTG, which surprisingly got progressively worse.
1st night. I was staying with family friends, who were conservative and aged, and sleeping on a couch in an apt in EL laguito. Bringing back girls wasn't an option. Had dinner with the family friends in downtown / old city. Afterwards the went home and I went over to Tu Candela's. Place was completely empty outside, so I decided to venture outside. I decided to stay outside as it was much more livelier than inside TC. I was on the hunt for some party supplies, as I figured might as well in Colombia. I wasn't exactly hip to the game, so I just asked some guy who was trying to sell me some cigars. He was ready for the handoff, but I made sure to take a look at my surroundings to make sure everything was ok. I saw some guy on a roof who was avidly paying attention and felt something was fishy, so I just walked away to go to a bench / sitting area. I just chilled out there for a few minutes drinking a beer I had purchased outside. One nice young girl with a pretty face ventured over to come talk to me. I thought she was pretty looking so I entered the conversation and got right down to business. I learned TLN from you guys, so I broke that out on her to get a gauge of what kind of price she was looking at. I believe she offered either 175 or 200k (could've even been 150k, I was a little drunk at that point). I knew a TLN was out of the possibility as I was staying over a guest's house and it would be completely unacceptable, and only asked for reference. I ended up asking for how much for an hour. I got quoted at 100k, which was fine for me as she looked really pretty and young. Not a crazy body, but I'm a sucker for a pretty face. She also seemed very nice and pleasant which is also a major plus in my books, as I've got a low tolerance for bitches. We ended up chatting for a bit, until she found the English speaking local, who I guess helped her with us foreigners. I met him and chatted him up. Pretty decent guy from everyone else I had to deal with. He explained to me clearly that I shouldn't be buying nay of that stuff out on the streets as everyone is watching and to go somewhere else to complete the transaction. He told me, the girl, and the seller of the goods to walk over to some bar outside of the walled city, directly across, forgot the name it was a small place with not much going on. We ended up completing the transaction here, and I proceeded to the bathroom. Once I cam back out, the seller was gone, and me and the girl just chatted for a few, as much as we could without really understanding one another. We had a beer each and I went outside and smoked a cigarette, and she asked for one as well. We wrapped up at this place, and headed back over to the clock tower area to meet the eng speaking local, who we'll call Joe for simplicity, not his actual name. Joe advised that we could go to a nearby motel that charges by the hour for 20k. I said fine, as I had no other place to go with the girl. We made a quick stop at Isis, but I didn't even venture inside and it was straight to the room. The guy at the reception handed me two condoms and off we went. We got down right to it with little to no foreplay. I guess I had a lot of pent up energy and I barely lasted a minute, feeling slightly embarrassed, but she was hot. We chilled for a few and did some foreplay for a while. I was fingering her good and felt her wet as anything. We suddenly get a knock on the door implying that our time was up. She negotiated with the guy that it would only be a few more minutes. Knowing my time was running out, I quickly got into gear and we went at it again for a good 5-10 minutes pretty hard. Ended up cleaning up and leaving the place, walked over to Isis to say thanks to Joe and had to head back home, as I had an early morning. It was only 130-2 am at this point. The young lady was chipper and happy, which was a good thing. She had a glow to her face, so although I didn't last incredibly long, I think I left her satisfied with the encounter. Took a taxi and went back to el laguito for 7k, and all in all it was a very good night.
2nd night. I decided to be adventurous this night, and headed over to the Pleyclub to check out the action there. A couple of girls approached me together and chatted me up. They both asked for drinks and after looking at the prices, I was in no mood to cough up a healthy dose of money. I ended up finishing a beer and jsut left the place to head back to TC area. This is where things tarted to go wrong. I was till carrying the stuff I had from the previous night and on the taxi ride back to old city we were pulled over by the police. My naive American just assumed they were doing a sobriety check and didn't assume much. Next thing I know the officer is pulling me outside of the vehicle. He made me empty my pockets and although I left my stash in my fifth pocket, he felt it and made sure I knew he felt it. At this point, I kind of realized what was up. I tried to balk for a minute but I realized these guys wanted some money. I ended up handing over 30k to one of the officers and tried to see if that was good enough. The other officer then motioned that he needed something for himself as well. I pulled out another 20k and handed it over and luckily he allowed me to leave. This was fortunate, as when I pulled out everything from my pockets, I had over $250 US and like 200K Colombian. I knew I was getting the shake down and just relented, I suppose it could've been much worse. Luckily I had won about 70k in the casino earlier in the day, so the loss wasn't as severe, but it made me feel like crap that I just got shook down regardless. The taxi continued on to TC area and I got out of the car a little nervous from what happened prior. The same girl from my first night spotted my arrival and came up to me and gave me a hug and a kiss. Joe must've shown up shortly there after. I suppose I'm a weird guy but I never like doing things two nights in a row, and was kind of picky about going with the same girl again, but she was hot so I agreed. Not doing the same thing on two consecutive nights also probably led them to PleyClub, which ultimately regret for leaving the Old city / Boca grande region, a truly regrettable action. I ended up trying to play hardball with the girl thinking I could get a better deal, and slightly pissed off at getting shook down by the police. I talked her down to 80 for one hour thinking the deal would be good. Same scenario as the night before. I had no place of my own and we went to the same motel that charges by the hour. Almost groundhog day type of shit, except the shakedown bit. When I tried to get the condoms from the guys at the desk, he hands me one, but I ask for two. The girl then makes it a point that we will only need one condom. In retrospect I should've just coughed up the extra 20k and possibly even given more considering the rest of my nights here were not as great as my first. What actually happened was me getting upset and playing hardball yet again on the point of brinksmanship, I suppose the shakedown left me bitter. I just asked my money back from the guy at the motel and walked away, thinking the girl may budge. She didn't. I should've used a little better diplomacy and just coughed up the money she wanted originally. My biggest mistake while in CTG, besides getting shook down. I ended up calling it a night and proceeded to go back home via taxi, as I had another early morning. Quite depressing to say the least, that approximately $10 US cost me having fun to not having fun. I'm a fool for sure.
3rd night. The night I finally had my own place to myself, an apt from Juan in Playa Mar. I ended up going back to the TC area to scope the action out there. My boy Joe introduced me to some girls who were ok looking but nothing extravagant. I ended up chatting with one of them, as she spoke decent english, and even brought her a few relatively cheap priced drinks outside of TC. After a while however, I realized this wasn't the quality of girl I was looking for, even though she was nice and pleasant. She just didn't do it for me. I ended up catching up with Joe again, who had met up with another American. I decided to kick it with the American just talking bullshit and get a gauge on where he was headed for some action. I had to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) anyways, and he said he was going to head over to some stripclub which turned out to be Isis. I agreed as I figured it would be cool to hang around some people I understood and not feel alone. The same girl however from the two previous nights was with the American's friend. I wasn't going to be a child about it however, and realized the line of work. We both still kind of just had friction towards each other. No eye contact and no pleasantry salutations. I just went with the flow anyhow. We ended up getting into Isis and sat down. With in a short period of time a couple of girls joined me and the American. The girl was ok, and I only let her stick around because I didn't want to be the only guy at the table without a girl to chat and flirt with. The American offered to buy me a couple of drinks inside, which was cool and I returned the favor by offering him some part favors. This is where things started to get sketchy however. The new girl starts ordering some tequila shots for herself, to which I never recall agreeing to. I decide to go to to the back of the place where they allow you to smoke cigarettes. The new girl joined me and just started kissing me. I normally don't kiss girls in this profession, but for some reason, probably alcohol and party goods, I participated. It did get me more interested in the lady however. We venture back inside and the bill arrives. It was something like 220k, which I had no intention of contributing to three ways (73k each) , especially considering the American said he would buy me two of my drinks and I don't recall telling the girl I would pay for her drinks. The American suggests I pay 60k, to which I still balk at, as I was only really expecting to pay for one of my drinks the entire time I was there. I finally agree to avoid hassles and upsetting everyone that I would pay 40k out of pocket. I talk to the girl and question why I'm paying for her drinks. She tells me as well to just pay 40 and that would be fine. The American and his friend are incredulous and just leave the place. I end up staying behind trying to sort out the bar tab of whatever the difference was. I imagine around 60k. I eventually pay over my 40k and as I'm walking out I see the bouncers pointing at me, which makes me nervous, especially considering I got shook down the night earlier. Not sure if these guys plan to beat me outside for not paying the full total, or if the would call the cops to have me shook down as well. Figured I was safe in the place and tried to subdue on the staff members who was just giving me dirty looks. My paranoia eventually faded, and I figured what ever was going to happen was going to happen. I ended up leaving on my own, and was happy to see Joe still standing outside. I took a taxi immediately however to just get away fromt hat place, but did notice the girl from the 1st 2 nights was still with Joe and didn't leave with the American or his friend. I noticed the girl was looking uncomfortable prior to leaving as was I. Within a minute in the taxi, I decided to give Joe a call and had the taxi turn around. I talked to Joe about the girl from the 1st 2 nights and asked if she was willing to go back with me. Joe explained to me that she just got a knife pulled on her from one of the girl's inside and was shaken up, and would not be able to participate, which sucked ass, because at this point I was really into her and she was the best option around. Jpe told me she could call a friend for 60k. I said f it, let's go, as it was already 4 am at this point and the night was getting bonkers. The girl was around a 7 or so, nothing spectacular but would do the deed at that hour. We ended up going back to my apt and chilled on the balcony for a bit sipping a drink in the apt. We went into the bedroom and got it on quickly. She was very tight which was a major plus. I performed much longer with her, and we had a decent time. Ended up doing it twice and it was pleasurable, not a bad experience. She ended up taking a taxi back and I gave her 10k fro the ride back. Not bad for the total price, but I would have still liked to have gotten with girl number 1.
Will give reports for nights 4 and 5 tomorrow. These do take a long time to type out.4 pages in google doc document that I copied to. God damn.
Anonymous5
03-12-13, 07:12
Hi guys,
Am thinking of going to Cartagena mid April for 3/4 nights.
I have been to St Maarten many times and it seems that prices are half at the source, Colombia.
Ideally, I would like to find a chica (or 2) early afternoon to hang with til the next morning.
Is there a Seamans / Carolinas case type scene in Cartagena where I can take out a chica to play with in the day time and beyond?
Seems from reading the forum there is a lot of freelances around.
Also, I just checked out PLAYA MAR APTS, right on the beach. Looks good, any opinions on that too? Or good central beach places for around 100 bucks per night?
Many thanks.Stayed at playa mar 801 overlooking the ocean. Two bedrooms for around $66 a night. Juan will quote 75. Try to negotiate with him a little. He wanted $225 for 3 nights, but I talked him into $200 for the three nights. Pretty good area and decent apartment for the cost, although I would contemplate checking on hillybilly's connection. I saw his link and they do have an apartment for $50 night for one bedroom.
I have been to St Maarten many times and it seems that prices are half at the source, Colombia.
Ideally, I would like to find a chica (or 2) early afternoon to hang with til the next morning.
Is there a Seamans / Carolinas case type scene in Cartagena where I can take out a chica to play with in the day time and beyond?First thing, Cartagena is the most expensive place in Colombia for girls. Prices you pay will be about the same as in St Maarten. However, since there are not any casas that tourists frequent, this means that most girls are freeelance and you don't have to pay casa fines to take them out. LDV is the freelance bar for chicas and there are a few later night bars as well. If you go to the beach during the day time, you will run into available girls there. However, at the beach you have to worry about umbrella guys like Tony who pimp girls and take a cut. Cartagena is more free wheeling than St Maarten (where the girls are all in a few casas and the rules are well known).
Girls in Cartagena have a harder time marketing their services, since they are freelance. They cannot expect to have 5 or 10 short term clients in one night, as in St Maarten. Therefore, TLN prices can be lower (since they are not giving up as much potential revenue).
-zing
Anonymous5
03-12-13, 19:16
Thank you for your posts and sorry about the no-so-great experience you had. To answer your question, in my experience, it is not the norm. The take home here is that you need some basic spanish skills if you want to venture solo in Colombia. The difference between,"cerrado vs cerrado ahora" can be subtle and can be missed. Also, I notice that once people realize that you do not know even a little bit of their language, they do not make much of an effort to explain the details. Alternatively, one can potentially run into unscrupulous taxi drivers anywhere in the world. I cannot tell you the number of times I was nudged to go to a different strip club in the US. You just hear what they have to say and ignore them. CTG, unlike BOG and MDE is a tourist place and is no different from other tourist towns all over the world. Glad you did not let that get to you and still managed to go out. Personally, I never had any issues with taxis in CTG. I have travelled extensively and I must say without a doubt that Colombians are one of the most honest people within the developing world.
The jet ski guy does sound like an asshole.Update, I just spoke with the English speaking local who helped me out my first few nights in town. I never asked him specifically about Elektra while in CTG. I just spoke with him briefly over the phone, and asked him about Elektra as well as a few other things. He claimed Elektra has been closed for about a week now because the owner didn't pay rent or something like that, said he was always in the casino's gambling. Elektra being closed may actually have legs to it, as cab drivers who were dropping me off at clock tower / Tu candela's, after refusing PleyClub, would have no incentive at that point to lie about Elektra being closed. Having heard from my English speaking local friend, I have more conviction in my belief that it was in fact closed during my stay 3/3-3/8. My Eng speaking local friend said it had been closed for about a week, which would coincide with my stay there exactly, and also be around the time the previous poster Blackpage saying it was open from 2/28. 3/3. I didn't even inquire about elektra on my first night there 3/3. Perhaps it is in fact closed, wish I walked over there myself to be 100% positive. It does appear to be a temp closing according to my friend, as the guy may in fact settle his dues and it will reopen at some point.
Update, I just spoke with the English speaking local who helped me out my first few nights in town. I never asked him specifically about Elektra while in CTG. I just spoke with him briefly over the phone, and asked him about Elektra as well as a few other things. He claimed Elektra has been closed for about a week now because the owner didn't pay rent or something like that, said he was always in the casino's gambling. Elektra being closed may actually have legs to it, as cab drivers who were dropping me off at clock tower / Tu candela's, after refusing PleyClub, would have no incentive at that point to lie about Elektra being closed. Having heard from my English speaking local friend, I have more conviction in my belief that it was in fact closed during my stay 3/3-3/8. My Eng speaking local friend said it had been closed for about a week, which would coincide with my stay there exactly, and also be around the time the previous poster Blackpage saying it was open from 2/28. 3/3. I didn't even inquire about elektra on my first night there 3/3. Perhaps it is in fact closed, wish I walked over there myself to be 100% positive. It does appear to be a temp closing according to my friend, as the guy may in fact settle his dues and it will reopen at some point.Good to hear it is reopening and good to hear that the taxi drivers weren't lying to you. Appreciate you taking the time to follow up and posting the info.
Anonymous5
03-13-13, 06:38
update, i just spoke with the english speaking local who helped me out my first few nights in town. i never asked him specifically about elektra while in ctg. i just spoke with him briefly over the phone, and asked him about elektra as well as a few other things. he claimed elektra has been closed for about a week now because the owner didn't pay rent or something like that, said he was always in the casino's gambling. elektra being closed may actually have legs to it, as cab drivers who were dropping me off at clock tower / tu candela's, after refusing pleyclub, would have no incentive at that point to lie about elektra being closed. having heard from my english speaking local friend, i have more conviction in my belief that it was in fact closed during my stay 3/3-3/9. my eng speaking local friend said it had been closed for about a week, which would coincide with my stay there exactly, and also be around the time the previous poster blackpage saying it was open from 2/28. 3/3. i didn't even inquire about elektra on my first night there 3/3. perhaps it is in fact closed, which i walked over there myself to be 100% positive. it does appear to be a temp closing according to my friend, as the guy may in fact settle his dues and it will reopen at some point.
my nights in ctg, which surprisingly got progressively worse.
1st night. i was staying with family friends, who were conservative and aged, and sleeping on a couch in an apt in el laguito. bringing back girls wasn't an option. had dinner with the family friends in downtown / old city. afterwards the went home and i went over to tu candela's. place was completely empty outside, so i decided to venture outside. i decided to stay outside as it was much more livelier than inside tc. i was on the hunt for some party supplies, as i figured might as well in colombia. i wasn't exactly hip to the game, so i just asked some guy who was trying to sell me some cigars. he was ready for the handoff, but i made sure to take a look at my surroundings to make sure everything was ok. i saw some guy on a roof who was avidly paying attention and felt something was fishy, so i just walked away to go to a bench / sitting area. i just chilled out there for a few minutes drinking a beer i had purchased outside. one nice young girl with a pretty face ventured over to come talk to me. i thought she was pretty looking so i entered the conversation and got right down to business. i learned tln from you guys, so i broke that out on her to get a gauge of what kind of price she was looking at. i believe she offered either 175 or 200k (could've even been 150k, i was a little drunk at that point). i knew a tln was out of the possibility as i was staying over a guest's house and it would be completely unacceptable, and only asked for reference. i ended up asking for how much for an hour. i got quoted at 100k, which was fine for me as she looked really pretty and young. not a crazy body, but i'm a sucker for a pretty face. she also seemed very nice and pleasant which is also a major plus in my books, as i've got a low tolerance for bitches. we ended up chatting for a bit, until she found the english speaking local, who i guess helped her with us foreigners. i met him and chatted him up. pretty decent guy from everyone else i had to deal with. he explained to me clearly that i shouldn't be buying nay of that stuff out on the streets as everyone is watching and to go somewhere else to complete the transaction. he told me, the girl, and the seller of the goods to walk over to some bar outside of the walled city, directly across, forgot the name it was a small place with not much going on. we ended up completing the transaction here, and i proceeded to the bathroom. once i cam back out, the seller was gone, and me and the girl just chatted for a few, as much as we could without really understanding one another. we had a beer each and i went outside and smoked a cigarette, and she asked for one as well. we wrapped up at this place, and headed back over to the clock tower area to meet the eng speaking local, who we'll call joe for simplicity, not his actual name. joe advised that we could go to a nearby motel that charges by the hour for 20k. i said fine, as i had no other place to go with the girl. we made a quick stop at isis, but i didn't even venture inside and it was straight to the room. the guy at the reception handed me two condoms and off we went. we got down right to it with little to no foreplay. i guess i had a lot of pent up energy and i barely lasted a minute, feeling slightly embarrassed, but she was hot. we chilled for a few and did some foreplay for a while. i was fingering her good and felt her wet as anything. we suddenly get a knock on the door implying that our time was up. she negotiated with the guy that it would only be a few more minutes. knowing my time was running out, i quickly got into gear and we went at it again for a good 5-10 minutes pretty hard. ended up cleaning up and leaving the place, walked over to isis to say thanks to joe and had to head back home, as i had an early morning. it was only 130-2 am at this point. the young lady was chipper and happy, which was a good thing. she had a glow to her face, so although i didn't last incredibly long, i think i left her satisfied with the encounter. took a taxi and went back to el laguito for 7k, and all in all it was a very good night.
2nd night. i decided to be adventurous this night, and headed over to the pleyclub to check out the action there. a couple of girls approached me together and chatted me up. they both asked for drinks and after looking at the prices, i was in no mood to cough up a healthy dose of money. i ended up finishing a beer and jsut left the place to head back to tc area. this is where things tarted to go wrong. i was till carrying the stuff i had from the previous night and on the taxi ride back to old city we were pulled over by the police. my naive american just assumed they were doing a sobriety check and didn't assume much. next thing i know the officer is pulling me outside of the vehicle. he made me empty my pockets and although i left my stash in my fifth pocket, he felt it and made sure i knew he felt it. at this point, i kind of realized what was up. i tried to balk for a minute but i realized these guys wanted some money. i ended up handing over 30k to one of the officers and tried to see if that was good enough. the other officer then motioned that he needed something for himself as well. i pulled out another 20k and handed it over and luckily he allowed me to leave. this was fortunate, as when i pulled out everything from my pockets, i had over $250 us and like 200k colombian. i knew i was getting the shake down and just relented, i suppose it could've been much worse. luckily i had won about 70k in the casino earlier in the day, so the loss wasn't as severe, but it made me feel like crap that i just got shook down regardless. the taxi continued on to tc area and i got out of the car a little nervous from what happened prior. the same girl from my first night spotted my arrival and came up to me and gave me a hug and a kiss. joe must've shown up shortly there after. i suppose i'm a weird guy but i never like doing things two nights in a row, and was kind of picky about going with the same girl again, but she was hot so i agreed. not doing the same thing on two consecutive nights also probably led them to pleyclub, which ultimately regret for leaving the old city / boca grande region, a truly regrettable action. i ended up trying to play hardball with the girl thinking i could get a better deal, and slightly pissed off at getting shook down by the police. i talked her down to 80 for one hour thinking the deal would be good. same scenario as the night before. i had no place of my own and we went to the same motel that charges by the hour. almost groundhog day type of shit, except the shakedown bit. when i tried to get the condoms from the guys at the desk, he hands me one, but i ask for two. the girl then makes it a point that we will only need one condom. in retrospect i should've just coughed up the extra 20k and possibly even given more considering the rest of my nights here were not as great as my first. what actually happened was me getting upset and playing hardball yet again on the point of brinksmanship, i suppose the shakedown left me bitter. i just asked my money back from the guy at the motel and walked away, thinking the girl may budge. she didn't. i should've used a little better diplomacy and just coughed up the money she wanted originally. my biggest mistake while in ctg, besides getting shook down. i ended up calling it a night and proceeded to go back home via taxi, as i had another early morning. quite depressing to say the least, that approximately $10 us cost me having fun to not having fun. i'm a fool for sure.
3rd night. the night i finally had my own place to myself, an apt from juan in playa mar. i ended up going back to the tc area to scope the action out there. my boy joe introduced me to some girls who were ok looking but nothing extravagant. i ended up chatting with one of them, as she spoke decent english, and even brought her a few relatively cheap priced drinks outside of tc. after a while however, i realized this wasn't the quality of girl i was looking for, even though she was nice and pleasant. she just didn't do it for me. i ended up catching up with joe again, who had met up with another american. i decided to kick it with the american just talking bullshit and get a gauge on where he was headed for some action. i had to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) anyways, and he said he was going to head over to some stripclub which turned out to be isis. i agreed as i figured it would be cool to hang around some people i understood and not feel alone. the same girl however from the two previous nights was with the american's friend. i wasn't going to be a child about it however, and realized the line of work. we both still kind of just had friction towards each other. no eye contact and no pleasantry salutations. i just went with the flow anyhow. we ended up getting into isis and sat down. with in a short period of time a couple of girls joined me and the american. the girl was ok, and i only let her stick around because i didn't want to be the only guy at the table without a girl to chat and flirt with. the american offered to buy me a couple of drinks inside, which was cool and i returned the favor by offering him some part favors. this is where things started to get sketchy however. the new girl starts ordering some tequila shots for herself, to which i never recall agreeing to. i decide to go to to the back of the place where they allow you to smoke cigarettes. the new girl joined me and just started kissing me. i normally don't kiss girls in this profession, but for some reason, probably alcohol and party goods, i participated. it did get me more interested in the lady however. we venture back inside and the bill arrives. it was something like 220k, which i had no intention of contributing to three ways (73k each) , especially considering the american said he would buy me two of my drinks and i don't recall telling the girl i would pay for her drinks. the american suggests i pay 60k, to which i still balk at, as i was only really expecting to pay for one of my drinks the entire time i was there. i finally agree to avoid hassles and upsetting everyone that i would pay 40k out of pocket. i talk to the girl and question why i'm paying for her drinks. she tells me as well to just pay 40 and that would be fine. the american and his friend are incredulous and just leave the place. i end up staying behind trying to sort out the bar tab of whatever the difference was. i imagine around 60k. i eventually pay over my 40k and as i'm walking out i see the bouncers pointing at me, which makes me nervous, especially considering i got shook down the night earlier. not sure if these guys plan to beat me outside for not paying the full total, or if the would call the cops to have me shook down as well. figured i was safe in the place and tried to subdue on the staff members who was just giving me dirty looks. my paranoia eventually faded, and i figured what ever was going to happen was going to happen. i ended up leaving on my own, and was happy to see joe still standing outside. i took a taxi immediately however to just get away fromt hat place, but did notice the girl from the 1st 2 nights was still with joe and didn't leave with the american or his friend. i noticed the girl was looking uncomfortable prior to leaving as was i. within a minute in the taxi, i decided to give joe a call and had the taxi turn around. i talked to joe about the girl from the 1st 2 nights and asked if she was willing to go back with me. joe explained to me that she just got a knife pulled on her from one of the girl's inside and was shaken up, and would not be able to participate, which sucked ass, because at this point i was really into her and she was the best option around. jpe told me she could call a friend for 60k. i said f it, let's go, as it was already 4 am at this point and the night was getting bonkers. the girl was around a 7 or so, nothing spectacular but would do the deed at that hour. we ended up going back to my apt and chilled on the balcony for a bit sipping a drink in the apt. we went into the bedroom and got it on quickly. she was very tight which was a major plus. i performed much longer with her, and we had a decent time. ended up doing it twice and it was pleasurable, not a bad experience. she ended up taking a taxi back and i gave her 10k fro the ride back. not bad for the total price, but i would have still liked to have gotten with girl number 1.
will give reports for nights 4 and 5 tomorrow. these do take a long time to type out. 4 pages in google doc document that i copied to. god damn.4th night. this night i wanted to try something different and knew of the club in el laguito, which i actually walked into not knowing what it was called while coming home the first night attempting to go to horus casino. i was still somewhat awake from my adventures on night #1 and didn't want to stay awake alone on the couch at a guest's place. when i walked into ldv on night #1 i expected to see casino tables but saw it was dark inside and only had a bar to it. wasn't looking for more action on night 1, so i just ended up asking a bouncer where the casino was. lol, it appears i walked right past it. i ended up drinking a beer at horus and leaving shortly thereafter on night 1, not realizing that the place i originally walked into was ldv. well on night 4, i ended up going back to ldv, not realizing it was ldv, because i wanted to pregame at a local place before heading on to other things. i ended up chatting with a few girls, some very hot, and even got quoted for a decent rate for one hour of action. may have been in the 100k range. i'm not the kind of guy who likes to get his action that early in the night 12am, and enjoy drinking and partying with a crowd till the night gets stale. then at that point, later in the night, i'm up for some action. still not realizing it was ldv, i casually asked one of the girls i chatted with what the name of the place was, which she replied la dolce vida. i was like ahhh, i've been sort of kind of looking for this place and even walked in here at one point, but now i realize i'm actually here. mind blown. i suppose the smart thing to do here was keep friendly conversations going with the women and take down some phone numbers. wish i had that foresight at the time as there were definitely some lookers in the place. before i knew it, i think i went out for a smoke or something and when i returned it was getting close to empty. i suppose this is yet another mistake i made. i figured keeping a girl around at ldv would require me to keep ordering drinks or close the deal and agree to leave with them. the partying for 3 nights in a row i suppose took its toll and i wasn't being as friendly as i could possibly be. i still should have made an attempt to find out where the girls were headed or secure some numbers, at the very least, for some quick day action or maybe a late night call, even if i didn't want to buy them drinks at ldv. i recall reading these forums and you guys mentioning that the girls leave ldv and go to another place, and then proceeded to ask the taxicab about club elektra. the taxi driver said it was closed and replied europa was still an option. i had the taxi take me over to europa and it was dead outside and inside. not sure if the place would liven up shortly but i wasn't in the mood to wait around, so i ended up going back to the clock tower area. i may have chilled outside scoping the action and drank a few drinks hoping that i would run into joe around there, or secure some nice piece by myself. my mistake, again, was never making the effort to get a sim card i could plug into my phone. i perhaps could have relied on payphones when i need it, but i suppose i got lazy. anyways, not much going on by the clock tower, never met joe, and it was approaching 4 am. i decided to just grab the best looking broad still around and try to negotiate a fair price. i got a decent looking girl to agree for 80k for an hour. i agreed and we hopped in a taxi and headed back to my apartment. when we got back, she asked me to make a her a drink, which i did. i pulled out some party favors to get me ready for the action and she asked for some too. after giving her some of the stuff, she then proceeded to ask me to pay in advance for our session. luckily she spoke english well enough, so i understood what she was saying. i told her that i would pay her after. she said if she didn't get paid in advance that she would leave. i said ok, and she astonishingly got up off the couch and walked out. i wasn't going to pay her in advance to only have her create issues later on, plus she wasn't super attractive to the point of paying in advance and making concessions to. you do your services and then get paid. still kind of shocked she took the trouble of getting up from the clock tower area, agreeing on a price, getting comfortable with a drink and some party favors, and then deciding to leave with nothing in hand to show for it. mind boggling. like i said, the nights got progressively worse, but the worst was yet to come.
night 5. i spent the day at the hilton with my family friends, and that's also the day i ran into the jetski scammers. still had fun on the jetski's but i did feel a little robbed that i'd didn't get the fulltime that suppose to be allocated. one of the reasons i couldn't really have day action in el laguito is because my family friends stayed on the same street and i didn't want word to get around of my activities. i tried to play it cool during the day, even as good lookers were propositioning me on the walk in el laguito. another mistake i suppose i made was not going overt o playa hollywood on my stay in ctg. it was a little away from main streets i imagine and i could've partook in some conversations and what not there. anyways, after dinner with my family friends at riquismo's, i headed back to the apartment for some light pregaming and planned to head over to ldv shortly thereafter. i ended up getting to ldv a little early, around 11:30ish. i chatted up a few girls inside, but one of them was asking for like 300k tln. way out of my range at this point, and she wasn't hot enough to justify that price. i did run out fo party favors and did inquire with the girls i was chatting with if they could assist me. they were being stand offish and said they could help me get some if we went for some action back at my place. i'm not a regular user, but the party favors would give me a little wake me up after 4 days of hard partying at that point, so i was really keen on getting some to feel better. the girls were not being helpful and it was getting close to 1am at this point. i didn't want to be up all night from the party favors, as i was leaving el laguito area around 12ish and had to be up by 11am the latest, luckily i packed the night before however. i decided i couldn't wait around for the girls to help me out, so i just jumped in a taxi and see if i could get some from him or by tc, hopefully running into joe at some point. the taxi i got into actually had some on his person and i just ended up getting it from him. in retrospect, i should've just went back to ldv at that point and kept drinking and eventually picked out a girl to leave with. i believe i ended up just asking the driver about elektra and he said it was closed, fml. i told him to take me over to club isis. the driver was keen on leaving me at isis and said i could go use the bathroom inside of there. for some reason i agreed. i ended up getting a drink at isis and used the bathroom to loosen up a little. after 20-30 minutes however i was out of the place and left. i proceeded to go over to the clock tower area and just hung around for a few minutes seeing if anything was going on outside. eventually it was the same crap but it did appear tu candela's had something going on. i decided to venture in hoping to see some good action. ended up being completely filled and there were not many girls still left around. i still stayed and had a few drinks hoping something would come along but it never did. i still did not want to walk the streets carrying around my party supplies so i ended up going to the bathroom a final time and did a decent amount and threw over half of the full amount down the drain. in all honesty, it was the most free i felt in ctg after a while. i knew the cops no longer could shake me down and i felt like i lifted the weight off of my shoulders. what i didn't realize at the time however, was that the stuff that i got from the taxi was probably cut with a lot of speed, i imagine. i'm not an expert but this stuff had me feeling very jittery all night and i was not feeling relaxed and cool. later on i noticed my eyes were severely dilated and i felt like i was tweaked out. i've never tweaked before, but that's how i believe it would feel. there's a small chance it was some super pure stuff that makes you feel like that, but i doubt it. from my use in the states i've gotten a pretty decent handle of what i should feel like. there's been times in the us where i've gotten below par party favors, but also plenty of time i got some really good stuff. this stuff from the taxi wasn't on the scale of really good stuff. i should've just contacted joe, yet again, as he even advised me that most of the stuff these guys will have is cut up with some stuff, and that he had a good connect himself. i naively assumed the stuff would be so plentiful in ctg that there would be no reason to adulterate the stuff as it would be everywhere for low prices. i should have just trusted joe with everything from girl acquisitions to part favor procurement. once again, a phone would've, made things easier, but i probably felt i would be fine getting the things myself. sometimes you have to touch the stove with your hands yourself, even if many people warned you that its really hot. i should have just trusted the advice from joe and had him get me the better quality, unadulterated stuff, because this stuff made me feel like crap. anyways, at this time 4am nothing much going outside of tu candela's so i decided to get into a taxi to see if i could find another place to scoop a girl for a final night in ctg. nothing was really going on at this hour, so i just told the taxi to be on the lookout for anything walking on the way to el laguito. we ended up catching a broad who was walking outside of ldv on the steps and decided to inquire. i wish i had not. she was at best a 4, even with beer goggles. she agreed to 60k for an hour, and i guess i just wanted some quick action before heading out of town. we get back to my apartment area and the taxi wanted 10k for his troubles, which i really didn't feel like arguing 3k over so i said ok, but the problem was i only had 50k notes at this point. the girl gave the driver 10k and held on to my 50, with me assuming i would pay her 20k later on, without even realizing i still only had 50k notes. we get upstairs and i guess i just want to get this over with quickly and just go to sleep asap, as the party favors had me antsy and not wanting to talk ro chill out with her. i suppose even on a sober night, i wouldn't have wanted to spend much time with her anyways. after 5 or so minutes she gets undressed and i wrap myself up looking to stick it in quickly and get this over with. she starts playing stupid by saying no not yet. ends up she was trying to stall out the hour. she keeps doing this bullshit till eventually she starts just giving me head, which was ok and i started ff'ing her. we do that for another 5 or so minutes without me releasing. i figure let me just stick it in and move on. finally get to the point of sticking it in and bang her for like 5 minutes or so. eventually after releasing and relaxing for a few. i figure lets do it again so i could let her go and get some sleep. at this point i go to get another condom and now she starts asking about more money and then even says the hour is up, which it is but mostly due to her bullshit of stalling and not letting me stick it in from the get go. after some arguing, i tell her to just get the fuck out. i told her she has my 40k and that she can leave. she remains motionless on the bed. f'and great. i tell her i'm not paying her anything and that she was stalling the entire time. she eventually says that a bj + a fuck is extra money so i have to giver her not only the extra 20k originally agreed on but 30 k more. i'm incredulous at this point and just begging and pleading for her to just leave me alone and go. i kept on motioning with my finger to just leave. she still remains motionless on the bed. it's approaching like 6 am at this point and i just want to sleep. bad times all around. i eventually get her to get dressed and to at least sit on the coach area. she keeps demanding more money and i agree that if she leaves i'll just pay her the 20k originally agreed upon and we'll both walk out together. she keeps telling me that she won't go outside because she's fearful that i will just throw her out and lock the door, which is ludicrous. this girl was straight psychotic. i think what she planned to do was have me leave the apartment first and then wait for her, but she planned to lock me out of my apartment and steal some of my shit inside. i eventually, mostly due to aggravation, just tossed a 50k note outside of my apartment door, with my foot keeping it ajar. hoping she would just go after the money and i can close the door and get some sleep. she happily did so. worst experience ever and i was still feeling tweaked out from the party favors. i could've played ctg much better. hindsight is 20/20 but the last couple of nights were hell, especially the last. i've learned a quality lesson in life i suppose. don't pick up anything at 4 am without doing due diligence on what kind of personality the woman has, as well as staying with what is comfortable. in all honesty, looking back at it now, if i had spent all 5 nights with the girl form the first night things would've been excellent. i suppose its the problem we all have as men in that we always look for the next conquest hoping it will be better than what we already have in front of us. i think another learning experience is that the grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence. if you make good relations with someone in a foreign country, you should stick by them for their advice and connections. thinking i could do better on my own turned out to be a true nightmare. so much fail the last 2 nights. you live and you learn i suppose, but i would rather have those last 2 nights back to have something more enjoyable to remember.
not the most flattering report, but i don't embellish things and only speak truth. if people can learn from my mistakes then i guess the better. wish i hadn't had to experience this myself. at least, i did get two quaiity nights of action during my stay, so all was not lost.
4th night. This night I wanted to try something different and knew of the club in el laguito, which I actually walked into not knowing what it was called while coming home the first night attempting to go to Horus Casino. I was still somewhat awake from my adventures on night #1 and didn't want to stay awake alone on the couch at a guest's place. When I walked into LDV...Is it quiet common for the cops in Cartagena to stop and search gringo occupants? Either in taxis or randomly on the street?
Why was your taxi stopped in the first place? I would imagine something suspicious was occurring to make them do this, surely.
Anonymous5
03-14-13, 07:17
Is it quiet common for the cops in Cartagena to stop and search gringo occupants? Either in taxis or randomly on the street?
Why was your taxi stopped in the first place? I would imagine something suspicious was occurring to make them do this, surely.I suppose I learned of the cops searching gringo's without reasonable cause the hard way. Nothing was suspicious (I procured the night before) and they had the road blocked stopping each car that passed by, similar to a US police sobriety checkpoint, which I naively assumed it was. I assumed the cops would just see if the taxi driver was drunk and if not, let us on our way but in actuality the cops didn't even bother with the driver and straight away asked me to step out of the vehicle. I know when in foreign lands one should be more cautious as US laws don't apply, but I didn't think a search would occur without reasonable cause, ie pulling a foreigner out of their taxi cab, while otherwise doing nothing harmless of the sort.
I may have been acting weird after I was pulled out, as I was already using earlier that night, but still tried to remain calm and cool to give them no reason to suspect I was doing anything wrong, perhaps my eyes severely wide open was a give away to any police working in the country. I suppose they know the deal with foreigners however and a search can always turn up something and allow them to make some money. When I pulled everything out of my pockets, they immediately recognized a plastic coffee spoon I carry on me when using to make bumps easier. They continued searching me after I emptied everything out, although I assumed leaving my stash in my fifth pocket would be undetectable in most cases. The officer searching however must've dealt with this situation often and felt up my fifth pocket. He didn't take whatever was there out, but rubbed it to make sure that I knew that he knew something was there. At that point I knew my game was up. After posturing briefly, I realized these guys wanted money, as it was pretty obvious they didn't make me empty the contents inside of my fifth pocket or any other standard police routine search they do here in the states. In fact it was pretty casual, as can be. They didn't mention any money, but I figured what was up and tried to get through with it without emptying most of the cash I had on hand. Worse part is that they saw the entire amount of cash I had on my person. All in all, the shakedown sucked and I should've been less naive to keep its stashed on me, but the payout could've been much worse (perhaps like $350-400 US total on my person). Being allowed to leave at that point with only 50k ( $25US) out of pocket was a miracle, as I could've paid much much more. As I handed over cash, I feigned as though each note handed over was financially crippling, which it was to a degree psychologically, but in reality it was actually just money won at the casino. Lady luck eventually blessed me with a break-even night I suppose, as I could've easily lost the same amount in the casino itself. I suppose my brief time in the casino was to win enough to pay off the police shakedown later that evening
CartaAngel
03-14-13, 19:44
Anonimous5, That BS must be done by the casino people, I will tell you why; something similar happened to a buddy of mine who was there in CTG back in 2010, to make the long story short, he played at a casino in Bocagrande and won over 1000 dollars (about 2 million pesos) after that, on his way back to his condo in laguito the police had the taxi driver stop, the cops searched my buddy and didn't bother to search taxi driver but couldn't find anything that would allow them to ask for money as a bribe for letting my buddy go clean with no crime, when he walked in his apartment realized the cops had stolen 600. 000 pesos (about 320 USD) out of the money won at the casino, bottom line is it was either the taxi driver that is used to setting up gringos that come out of the casinos or the casino people, who the hell knows, but please beware next time.
The casino that I know. Near where the InterContinenetal is going up is less than 10mins walk to Laguito (for me, at least).
Also, Anonymous- I am sure I know who you describe as "Joe". As I stayed at the hotel across from Isis.
I had no need of his "help" as I was with a chica from Medellin and I am perfectly fluent in spanish. He did get me an AlkaSeltzer late one night when the farmavias were closed. LOL.
He is good people. Why not give his name and / or # of it would help his "business".
Sounds like he was a "straight-shooter" with you- w / me, as well?
Anonimous5, That BS must be done by the casino people, I will tell you why; something similar happened to a buddy of mine who was there in CTG back in 2010, to make the long story short, he played at a casino in Bocagrande and won over 1000 dollars (about 2 million pesos) after that, on his way back to his condo in laguito the police had the taxi driver stop, the cops searched my buddy and didn't bother to search taxi driver but couldn't find anything that would allow them to ask for money as a bribe for letting my buddy go clean with no crime, when he walked in his apartment realized the cops had stolen 600. 000 pesos (about 320 USD) out of the money won at the casino, bottom line is it was either the taxi driver that is used to setting up gringos that come out of the casinos or the casino people, who the hell knows, but please beware next time.
Anonymous5
03-15-13, 00:31
Anonimous5, That BS must be done by the casino people, I will tell you why; something similar happened to a buddy of mine who was there in CTG back in 2010, to make the long story short, he played at a casino in Bocagrande and won over 1000 dollars (about 2 million pesos) after that, on his way back to his condo in laguito the police had the taxi driver stop, the cops searched my buddy and didn't bother to search taxi driver but couldn't find anything that would allow them to ask for money as a bribe for letting my buddy go clean with no crime, when he walked in his apartment realized the cops had stolen 600. 000 pesos (about 320 USD) out of the money won at the casino, bottom line is it was either the taxi driver that is used to setting up gringos that come out of the casinos or the casino people, who the hell knows, but please beware next time.While what you say is likely true, in my scenario I was long gone from the casino before the shakedown occurred. I was playing at Rio Casino around 5-30-630 ish. Left and went home with family friends. Took a shower and ate dinner. Pre-gamed in my apartment and left around 11ish and the cab driver recommended Pleyclub, since I was new in town and wanted to try a different scene I said ok. After being disappointed with pleyclub pricing and it being the only thing going around in the area, I decided it was time to leave. If they made a correlation with me winning at the casino, they put an awful lot of work into it, as the events were likely 5-6 hours apart, and I did many activities in between. The only likely scenario of a setup I could possibly think of was me using the bathroom at Pleyclub prior to leaving and doing some bumps. It's not completely impossible someone watched me go in to the bathroom or watched / heard my activities inside and while leaving made a phone call in advance for a shakedown. Not really sure, but that would be far fetched as well, but not completely out of the realm of possibility. I suppose there is no sure way to avoid the cops, but one thing I practiced since then was to be around tc / clock tower area or in el laguito / ldv with my stuff. I figure those are the most tourist central locations and although possible for a shakedown, police don't hassle as much from my experience. I suppose it would be bad for tourism business, I imagine, but if you venture away from those areas then you are fair game. Either way, I never truly felt comfortable again on my nights out, as the police had me scared even just passing by while I was sitting in clock tower area outside. Not until the last ngith, when I decided to empty whatever I had left int he toilet did I really just feel free, as if I took a major weight off my shoulders.
Anonymous5
03-15-13, 00:40
The casino that I know. Near where the InterContinenetal is going up is less than 10mins walk to Laguito (for me, at least).
Also, Anonymous- I am sure I know who you describe as "Joe". As I stayed at the hotel across from Isis.
I had no need of his "help" as I was with a chica from Medellin and I am perfectly fluent in spanish. He did get me an AlkaSeltzer late one night when the farmavias were closed. LOL.
He is good people. Why not give his name and / or # of it would help his "business".
Sounds like he was a "straight-shooter" with you- w / me, as well?Ya, I'm sure "Joe" is likely known by many foreigners who visit Isis or TC / clock tower area, as he is likely the only one around to assist with translations. Was a very good guy (straight shooter) and I should have relied on him more, rather than thinking I could do things on my own. One mistake I made was getting the party favors on my own after he warned me that most people cut their stuff up with crap. I falsely assumed that he was just hyping his own stuff and would want me to go to him for a sale. I assumed incorrectly that no one would need to cut their stuff up in the land of Colombia. You live and you learn, and I should have trusted Joe. I wouldn't post his real name, or whatever he claimed to be his real name, on here without permission, and due to the fact that we really don't know who's reading along here. Wouldn't want to cause any problems for him back in CTG unknowingly. I will give him a chat though to see if he doesn't mind having his info posted. Once I hear back from him and he gives the ok, I'll gladly share the intel.
BTW, is it ok to post telephone numbers on this site?
TheShadow2
03-15-13, 02:51
Anonimous5, That BS must be done by the casino people, I will tell you why; something similar happened to a buddy of mine who was there in CTG back in 2010, to make the long story short, he played at a casino in Bocagrande and won over 1000 dollars (about 2 million pesos) after that, on his way back to his condo in laguito the police had the taxi driver stop, the cops searched my buddy and didn't bother to search taxi driver but couldn't find anything that would allow them to ask for money as a bribe for letting my buddy go clean with no crime, when he walked in his apartment realized the cops had stolen 600. 000 pesos (about 320 USD) out of the money won at the casino, bottom line is it was either the taxi driver that is used to setting up gringos that come out of the casinos or the casino people, who the hell knows, but please beware next time.This does seem coincidental, but it's possible the casino was not involved. The cops used the same M. O. On me several years ago, I. E. Stopped our taxi, had me empty all my pockets, then (unknowingly to me) did not return everything I gave them. By the time I realized it, I had left the scene. When I went back (5 minutes later) of course my complaints fell on deaf ears and they blamed the taxi driver, etc etc.
Maybe that is the lesson to be learned, that if the cops pull you over and search you, and are put in possession of your things, pay VERY close attention to what they do with them and demand a full accounting at the scene.
BTW, is it ok to post telephone numbers on this site?Anonymous5, nice reporting. Thank you.
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DreamCarnarvon
03-17-13, 06:17
Hi all,
I finally have an opportunity to visit the beautiful country of Colombia for 3 weeks for the first time as a solo traveler. So, even though my trip won't happen until later this year, I have been doing a lot of research over the internet already. I have nailed down 3 cities which I will definitely want to visit: Bogota, Cali, and Cartagena. Due to varies reasons, my travel date is restricted to the months between September to December. During my research I have come across that Miss Colombia Beauty Contest is held annually in November in the city of Cartagena. With that in mind, is November a good time to visit Cartagena for mongering? Will the mongering scene be too crowded at that time?
Thank you and have a day all.
Member #4427
03-17-13, 18:32
I have been meaning to write this report for some time, but I am just getting around to it. First let me say this is not a report on the mongering situation in Cartagena, but more of a vacation report. In case someone has a Colombian girl they want to take on a mini vacation. I brought a girl down from Medellin mid-February with me, so I did not par-take in the scene. I do want to thank the people who PM'the me with information.
First I would like to say I found Cartagena, to be a on the same quality vacation spot as Mazatlan, dirty, the beaches and water not very nice. Part of the trip was to see if this was a place to retire to, definitely not. I see this as to be one of the first places that will be ruined by Americans / Canadians who retire in to SA. They will ruin it as retirement place like they have done in Costa Rica and Panama.
As far as being safe place to go, this is the safest place I have ever visited in Colombia. We were down at the wall city late at night, and I saw young American / Canadian women walking around either alone or in small groups. I never felt uneasy walking around anywhere in the city at night.
If you have a Colombian girl that you get along well with, and want a GFE and beach vacation, I do recommend Cartagena. My girl had a great time, did not cost me much. Her ticket from Medellin to Cartagena was a little over $200 on Avianca, put her on bus and it is cheaper. Also forget the hotel and get a nice apartment.
We sat on the beach only one day, after that she preferred the pool area of hotel. To be honest so did I, the vendors on the beach never leave you alone. I was disappointed that we really never found a beach bar at night, where you could sit listen to music and dance and drink. It appeared when the sun went down the beach closed up. However there is much beach area we did not get to. I tried to talk her in going to one of the remote beaches, but she had no interest in getting in a boat.
I had my hopes on going to Club Havana, but the two nights we went down there it was closed. The best kept secret to eat was a place called Costillitas Argentinas, 'Carrera 3 Bocagrande | Cra 3 No 8 96'. Our meal with wine and drinks was $38. 00. Unbelievable there was no one in the place, but we saw meals going out for delivery the whole time we were there. They do have a nice little patio; we sat out on and finished our drinks and people watched. It is far enough off the beach really did not have the nightly sea breeze so very comfortable to sit outside. All and all everywhere we ate was reasonable and very good.
Some of the stuff we did, we went to the walled city. We first took a carriage tour, I can not remember how much it was, I am thinking less the $30 for 45 minutes. The girl loved it. Later we walked around found a little park area and had a drink. There were many little restaurants throughout the area, that looked great. We did sit outside of the Hardrock one evening and watched the mime work the crowd, and people watched, why we had some drinks. Outside the wall city away from the beach side, we walked out across a little park and started walking the streets. There was a street with a section of hostels on it. This area was full of young kids, and a few small street bars, we stopped and had a drink in one of the bars. The story I got from one of the kids is a lot college age kids fly in here and stay then go hiking Colombia. We went to the fortress for the tour there, it was nice having someone there who knew the history, she explained a lot about the history to me. A little side note that I have found during my travels, is all Colombians are very proud of their country and history. We went shopping for silver and emeralds; you can find shops throughout the city. We stayed at Hotel Dann Cartagena (I should have listen to my friends and got an apartment, do not recommend this hotel. It was very nice except 2 things 1. No ice machines and 2. The showers suck.) , there is a little mall across the street, that I saw the cruise ship buses dropping people off to shop for Emeralds and Silver. We also did the city bus tour, it was worth it, you can hop on an off. I recommend this the first day, you can get a feel of city and where you want to return to. I also saw a party bus tour my last day, I wish I seen it before it look like people were having fun. Here are a couple of web sites that I used why I was there.
http://www.city-sightseeing.com/tours/colombia/cartagena.htm?set-currency=USD#tourlandingposition
http://www.ticartagena.com/
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Tourism-g297476-Cartagena-Vacations.html
All in all I may return with a girl again for vacation or may try Santa Marta next time. I hope this helps some.
Black Page
03-17-13, 19:50
I must confess I've become lazy. I delayed writing this report so long. Maybe it's better: I will be short omitting unnecessary details.
I was in CTG from 28 Feb to 3 March. This is what happened this time.
FIRST NIGHT
Bored, misplaced, I could not find any girl I liked. Memories of the incredible girls I met last time were always on my mind, ruining all the new feelings.
To be objective, I think there were LESS girls around than on my previous stay, and MORE tourist men at hunt. A non-positive mix for me.
Visited Tu Candela, some other disco, Elektra. I ended up with a 38yo (! I am usually looking for the youngest ones) girl who self-declared an expert masajista (Ana Maria). She is a good girl indeed. I was happy to meet her, but I would not repeat.
SECOND DAY
Straight to my preferred lady who runs some business at her house at Alcibia. Her son promised me a teen, but he contacted a 24yo. Never mind. She was a sweetie indeed, not a pro, a regular girl from family, and costed me 100k (+30k to the house).
SECOND NIGHT AND NEXT DAYS
I meet Her. Tall, sexy, angry out of TuCandela. Her first words: "Yo covro 150k por hora". Not a nice introduction.
What happened next? All different. Drinks, good feeling, lots of GFE.
I was with her ALL my time till I left. 2 nights, one day at the beach.
Sat night I invited her out like a novia and we had a wonderful time at Mister Babilla. She told me "I don't want to ask you money like when I work. I just need 100k to pay my rental with my friends". That was so elegant from her! On a Sat night, a girl like her can earn up to 500k! She gave up to that to stay with me. It means something, from a prepago.
I am in love.
Hi all,
I finally have an opportunity to visit the beautiful country of Colombia for 3 weeks for the first time as a solo traveler. So, even though my trip won't happen until later this year, I have been doing a lot of research over the internet already. I have nailed down 3 cities which I will definitely want to visit: Bogota, Cali, and Cartagena. Due to varies reasons, my travel date is restricted to the months between September to December. During my research I have come across that Miss Colombia Beauty Contest is held annually in November in the city of Cartagena. With that in mind, is November a good time to visit Cartagena for mongering? Will the mongering scene be too crowded at that time?
Thank you and have a day all.November is a fine time to visit. I went in November and had fun. CTG is a tourist destination. That means major events attract both men and the working girls. The ratio is certainly maintained and in my opinion, quality goes up. I would rather go then, than go when it is dead and expect less competition. As a general rule, a monger who is not cheap (I don't mean throw money or be a show off) , and willing to pay a fair price has very little completion for prepagos. Statistically, most men are there to look and hang out. Very few actually take the bite.
DreamCarnarvon
03-17-13, 23:59
Vitrea: thank you for your informative info. I totally agree you that in general there are more men who do not participate then the ones who do on any given night. In my experience, this is especially true in a lot of the low-end establishments frequented by the locals. In those places, the local men are usually there to relax and hang out. Most of the time I am the only gringo around pulling the women. Typically I prefer to travel in the off season when there is less of a crowd. But I guess since Cartagena is a tourist town in of itself, it will always be crowded with tourists.
Towelboy2010
03-19-13, 00:56
I suppose I learned of the cops searching gringo's without reasonable cause the hard way.
I may have been acting weird after I was pulled out, as I was already using earlier that night, but still tried to remain calm and cool to give them no reason to suspect I was doing anything wrong, perhaps my eyes severely wide open was a give away to any police working in the country. They immediately recognized a plastic coffee spoon I carry on me when using to make bumps easier. The officer searching however must've dealt with this situation often and felt up my fifth pocket. He didn't take whatever was there out, but rubbed it to make sure that I knew that he knew something was there. After posturing briefly, I realized these guys wanted money, as it was pretty obvious they didn't make me empty the contents inside of my fifth pocket or any other standard police routine search they do here in the states. In fact it was pretty casual, as can be.According to research, Colombia has decriminalized cocaine and marijuana, saying that people cannot be jailed for possessing the drugs for personal use. Anyone caught with less 20 grams of marijuana or one gram of cocaine for personal use will not be prosecuted or detained, but could be required to receive treatment, depending on their level of intoxication.
Manizales911
03-19-13, 01:46
According to research, Colombia has decriminalized cocaine and marijuana, saying that people cannot be jailed for possessing the drugs for personal use. Anyone caught with less 20 grams of marijuana or one gram of cocaine for personal use will not be prosecuted or detained, but could be required to receive treatment, depending on their level of intoxication.Laws in third world countries are not like in the USA, they are merely "suggestions" and certainly what's good for a local may not be for a foreigner. That said, even if the law were upheld it might cost you a small fortune in bribes and lawyers to get it. Furthermore, rent the movie "Midnight Express" and tell me it's worth taking the risk.
Colombia is also thinking about making synthetic drugs such as extacy legal, interesting.
thanks for the thorough and honest report. i can empathisize with your 5th night girl / situation. i've been in similar spots. you did the right thing by just getting her out. believe me, some of the lower class putas can do crazy things to get their 20-30 mil.
i do want to defend the colombian police. they actually did you a huge favor. if they take you in and charge you (like in the us) , you would be in a lot more trouble. believe me. 50 mil (25 uds) is a very cheap way to get out of the situation. to me, a shakedown is what goes on in mexico. they pull you over, find nothing wrong, invent something, and make you pay $100 or more usd.
as far as paying for the girl getting drinks, it is assumed, even in us strip clubs, if you are drinking with a girl that you are paying for their drinks. you can't let stuff like that ruin your night. look at all the money you paid to fly there and stay in a hotel. spending an extra $20 on someone's drinks is not worth stressing about. i just assume that i'm going to waste $20-$50 per night on stuff like that when i'm partying in a foreign place. it's the cost of not knowing or not worrying about the details.
i'm sure the jet ski guy did screw with the time, but if you negotiate a really low price, you can expect stuff like that to happen.
when americans first go down to colombian, i see a tendancy to want us customer service and rights, but pay colombian prices. it doesn't work that way. you generally pay less in colombia and have to live with the lose of certain rights and customer service.
4th night. this night i wanted to try something different and knew of the club in el laguito, which i actually walked into not knowing what it was called while coming home the first night attempting to go to horus casino. i was still somewhat awake from my adventures on night #1 and didn't want to stay awake alone on the couch at a guest's place. when i walked into ldv on night #1 i expected to see casino tables but saw it was dark inside and only had a bar to it. wasn't looking for more action on night 1, so i just ended up asking a bouncer where the casino was. lol, it appears i walked right past it. i ended up drinking a beer at horus and leaving shortly thereafter on night 1, not realizing that the place i originally walked into was ldv. well on night 4, i ended up going back to ldv, not realizing it was ldv, because i wanted to pregame at a local place before heading on to other things. i ended up chatting with a few girls, some very hot, and even got quoted for a decent rate for one hour of action. may have been in the 100k range. i'm not the kind of guy who likes to get his action that early in the night 12am, and enjoy drinking and partying with a crowd till the night gets stale. then at that point, later in the night, i'm up for some action. still not realizing it was ldv, i casually asked one of the girls i chatted with what the name of the place was, which she replied la dolce vida. i was like ahhh, i've been sort of kind of looking for this place and even walked in here at one point, but now i realize i'm actually here. mind blown. i suppose the smart thing to do here was keep friendly conversations going with the women and take down some phone numbers. wish i had that foresight at the time as there were definitely some lookers in the place. before i knew it, i think i went out for a smoke or something and when i returned it was getting close to empty. i suppose this is yet another mistake i made. i figured keeping a girl around at ldv would require me to keep ordering drinks or close the deal and agree to leave with them. the partying for 3 nights in a row i suppose took its toll and i wasn't being as friendly as i could possibly be. i still should have made an attempt to find out where the girls were headed or secure some numbers, at the very least, for some quick day action or maybe a late night call, even if i didn't want to buy them drinks at ldv. i recall reading these forums and you guys mentioning that the girls leave ldv and go to another place, and then proceeded to ask the taxicab about club elektra. the taxi driver said it was closed and replied europa was still an option. i had the taxi take me over to europa and it was dead outside and inside. not sure if the place would liven up shortly but i wasn't in the mood to wait around, so i ended up going back to the clock tower area. i may have chilled outside scoping the action and drank a few drinks hoping that i would run into joe around there, or secure some nice piece by myself. my mistake, again, was never making the effort to get a sim card i could plug into my phone. i perhaps could have relied on payphones when i need it, but i suppose i got lazy. anyways, not much going on by the clock tower, never met joe, and it was approaching 4 am. i decided to just grab the best looking broad still around and try to negotiate a fair price. i got a decent looking girl to agree for 80k for an hour. i agreed and we hopped in a taxi and headed back to my apartment. when we got back, she asked me to make a her a drink, which i did. i pulled out some party favors to get me ready for the action and she asked for some too. after giving her some of the stuff, she then proceeded to ask me to pay in advance for our session. luckily she spoke english well enough, so i understood what she was saying. i told her that i would pay her after. she said if she didn't get paid in advance that she would leave. i said ok, and she astonishingly got up off the couch and walked out. i wasn't going to pay her in advance to only have her create issues later on, plus she wasn't super attractive to the point of paying in advance and making concessions to. you do your services and then get paid. still kind of shocked she took the trouble of getting up from the clock tower area, agreeing on a price, getting comfortable with a drink and some party favors, and then deciding to leave with nothing in hand to show for it. mind boggling. like i said, the nights got progressively worse, but the worst was yet to come.
night 5. i spent the day at the hilton with my family friends, and that's also the day i ran into the jetski scammers. still had fun on the jetski's but i did feel a little robbed that i'd didn't get the fulltime that suppose to be allocated. one of the reasons i couldn't really have day action in el laguito is because my family friends stayed on the same street and i didn't want word to get around of my activities. i tried to play it cool during the day, even as good lookers were propositioning me on the walk in el laguito. another mistake i suppose i made was not going overt o playa hollywood on my stay in ctg. it was a little away from main streets i imagine and i could've partook in some conversations and what not there. anyways, after dinner with my family friends at riquismo's, i headed back to the apartment for some light pregaming and planned to head over to ldv shortly thereafter. i ended up getting to ldv a little early, around 11:30ish. i chatted up a few girls inside, but one of them was asking for like 300k tln. way out of my range at this point, and she wasn't hot enough to justify that price. i did run out fo party favors and did inquire with the girls i was chatting with if they could assist me. they were being stand offish and said they could help me get some if we went for some action back at my place. i'm not a regular user, but the party favors would give me a little wake me up after 4 days of hard partying at that point, so i was really keen on getting some to feel better. the girls were not being helpful and it was getting close to 1am at this point. i didn't want to be up all night from the party favors, as i was leaving el laguito area around 12ish and had to be up by 11am the latest, luckily i packed the night before however. i decided i couldn't wait around for the girls to help me out, so i just jumped in a taxi and see if i could get some from him or by tc, hopefully running into joe at some point. the taxi i got into actually had some on his person and i just ended up getting it from him. in retrospect, i should've just went back to ldv at that point and kept drinking and eventually picked out a girl to leave with. i believe i ended up just asking the driver about elektra and he said it was closed, fml. i told him to take me over to club isis. the driver was keen on leaving me at isis and said i could go use the bathroom inside of there. for some reason i agreed. i ended up getting a drink at isis and used the bathroom to loosen up a little. after 20-30 minutes however i was out of the place and left. i proceeded to go over to the clock tower area and just hung around for a few minutes seeing if anything was going on outside. eventually it was the same crap but it did appear tu candela's had something going on. i decided to venture in hoping to see some good action. ended up being completely filled and there were not many girls still left around. i still stayed and had a few drinks hoping something would come along but it never did. i still did not want to walk the streets carrying around my party supplies so i ended up going to the bathroom a final time and did a decent amount and threw over half of the full amount down the drain. in all honesty, it was the most free i felt in ctg after a while. i knew the cops no longer could shake me down and i felt like i lifted the weight off of my shoulders. what i didn't realize at the time however, was that the stuff that i got from the taxi was probably cut with a lot of speed, i imagine. i'm not an expert but this stuff had me feeling very jittery all night and i was not feeling relaxed and cool. later on i noticed my eyes were severely dilated and i felt like i was tweaked out. i've never tweaked before, but that's how i believe it would feel. there's a small chance it was some super pure stuff that makes you feel like that, but i doubt it. from my use in the states i've gotten a pretty decent handle of what i should feel like. there's been times in the us where i've gotten below par party favors, but also plenty of time i got some really good stuff. this stuff from the taxi wasn't on the scale of really good stuff. i should've just contacted joe, yet again, as he even advised me that most of the stuff these guys will have is cut up with some stuff, and that he had a good connect himself. i naively assumed the stuff would be so plentiful in ctg that there would be no reason to adulterate the stuff as it would be everywhere for low prices. i should have just trusted joe with everything from girl acquisitions to part favor procurement. once again, a phone would've, made things easier, but i probably felt i would be fine getting the things myself. sometimes you have to touch the stove with your hands yourself, even if many people warned you that its really hot. i should have just trusted the advice from joe and had him get me the better quality, unadulterated stuff, because this stuff made me feel like crap. anyways, at this time 4am nothing much going outside of tu candela's so i decided to get into a taxi to see if i could find another place to scoop a girl for a final night in ctg. nothing was really going on at this hour, so i just told the taxi to be on the lookout for anything walking on the way to el laguito. we ended up catching a broad who was walking outside of ldv on the steps and decided to inquire. i wish i had not. she was at best a 4, even with beer goggles. she agreed to 60k for an hour, and i guess i just wanted some quick action before heading out of town. we get back to my apartment area and the taxi wanted 10k for his troubles, which i really didn't feel like arguing 3k over so i said ok, but the problem was i only had 50k notes at this point. the girl gave the driver 10k and held on to my 50, with me assuming i would pay her 20k later on, without even realizing i still only had 50k notes. we get upstairs and i guess i just want to get this over with quickly and just go to sleep asap, as the party favors had me antsy and not wanting to talk ro chill out with her. i suppose even on a sober night, i wouldn't have wanted to spend much time with her anyways. after 5 or so minutes she gets undressed and i wrap myself up looking to stick it in quickly and get this over with. she starts playing stupid by saying no not yet. ends up she was trying to stall out the hour. she keeps doing this bullshit till eventually she starts just giving me head, which was ok and i started ff'ing her. we do that for another 5 or so minutes without me releasing. i figure let me just stick it in and move on. finally get to the point of sticking it in and bang her for like 5 minutes or so. eventually after releasing and relaxing for a few. i figure lets do it again so i could let her go and get some sleep. at this point i go to get another condom and now she starts asking about more money and then even says the hour is up, which it is but mostly due to her bullshit of stalling and not letting me stick it in from the get go. after some arguing, i tell her to just get the fuck out. i told her she has my 40k and that she can leave. she remains motionless on the bed. f'and great. i tell her i'm not paying her anything and that she was stalling the entire time. she eventually says that a bj + a fuck is extra money so i have to giver her not only the extra 20k originally agreed on but 30 k more. i'm incredulous at this point and just begging and pleading for her to just leave me alone and go. i kept on motioning with my finger to just leave. she still remains motionless on the bed. it's approaching like 6 am at this point and i just want to sleep. bad times all around. i eventually get her to get dressed and to at least sit on the coach area. she keeps demanding more money and i agree that if she leaves i'll just pay her the 20k originally agreed upon and we'll both walk out together. she keeps telling me that she won't go outside because she's fearful that i will just throw her out and lock the door, which is ludicrous. this girl was straight psychotic. i think what she planned to do was have me leave the apartment first and then wait for her, but she planned to lock me out of my apartment and steal some of my shit inside. i eventually, mostly due to aggravation, just tossed a 50k note outside of my apartment door, with my foot keeping it ajar. hoping she would just go after the money and i can close the door and get some sleep. she happily did so. worst experience ever and i was still feeling tweaked out from the party favors. i could've played ctg much better. hindsight is 20/20 but the last couple of nights were hell, especially the last. i've learned a quality lesson in life i suppose. don't pick up anything at 4 am without doing due diligence on what kind of personality the woman has, as well as staying with what is comfortable. in all honesty, looking back at it now, if i had spent all 5 nights with the girl form the first night things would've been excellent. i suppose its the problem we all have as men in that we always look for the next conquest hoping it will be better than what we already have in front of us. i think another learning experience is that the grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence. if you make good relations with someone in a foreign country, you should stick by them for their advice and connections. thinking i could do better on my own turned out to be a true nightmare. so much fail the last 2 nights. you live and you learn i suppose, but i would rather have those last 2 nights back to have something more enjoyable to remember.
not the most flattering report, but i don't embellish things and only speak truth. if people can learn from my mistakes then i guess the better. wish i hadn't had to experience this myself. at least, i did get two quaiity nights of action during my stay, so all was not lost.
WAAAAAAAY too expensive for those street-walking sluts, wannabe models. A fair price is 80k. If they want more, they have no idea of the real prices in Colombia.
A better option is Donde Rosia. A taxi will take you there for 7 USD.
Anonymous5
03-20-13, 01:36
Thanks for the thorough and honest report. I can empathisize with your 5th night girl / situation. I've been in similar spots. You did the right thing by just getting her out. Believe me, some of the lower class putas can do crazy things to get their 20-30 mil.
I do want to defend the Colombian police. They actually did you a HUGE favor. If they take you in and charge you (like in the US) , you would be in a lot more trouble. Believe me. 50 mil (25 UDS) is a very cheap way to get out of the situation. To me, a shakedown is what goes on in Mexico. They pull you over, find nothing wrong, invent something, and make you pay $100 or more USD.
As far as paying for the girl getting drinks, it is assumed, even in US strip clubs, if you are drinking with a girl that you are paying for their drinks. You can't let stuff like that ruin your night. Look at all the money you paid to fly there and stay in a hotel. Spending an extra $20 on someone's drinks is not worth stressing about. I just assume that I'm going to waste $20-$50 per night on stuff like that when I'm partying in a foreign place. It's the cost of not knowing or not worrying about the details.
I'm sure the jet ski guy did screw with the time, but if you negotiate a really low price, you can expect stuff like that to happen.
When Americans first go down to Colombian, I see a tendancy to want US customer service and rights, but pay Colombian prices. It doesn't work that way. You generally pay less in Colombia and have to live with the lose of certain rights and customer service.Thanks for the reply and reading through my experience. My main issue with the police is not that they asked me for money, but rather that they stopped the taxi and had me alone get out. My assumption was that if you do nothing wrong, remain honest and decent then the police should not harass you. If I had been caught in either a transaction, being disruptively drunk / obnoxious, or using the substances in the act then I would have no one to blame but myself. My main issue was with the completely random search of a foreigner in a taxi, otherwise doing nothing harmless.
I understand now that's how it works in the Colombia and that I shouldn't have been as naive initially, but it did play with my mind for the rest of my trip. I was always weary of police and made sure to never leave el laguito or el centro while having any substances on my possession. All in all, after the stop and the discovery getting off for 50k was a god send. I suppose my feigning / acting that each bill coughed up was earth shattering also helped me off, as I can imagine someone else less clever would probably start by handing over like 50k initially, and the cops would then extract more. I suppose it could've been much worse, but I knew what the cops wanted. I perhaps drew a tiny amount of sympathy from them from my acting and they allowed me to leave without further damage. I think I even thanked them after the shakedown just so there would be no further problems of them calling their friends up the block for shakedown #2. I'm not familiar with Mexico, but my god the US has its problems but at least, for the most part, as long as you're not doing anything wrong the cops can't legally detain or search you without reasonable cause or provocation. The USA def has its problem both domestic and international policies, but at least there are laws on the books that help safeguard citizens rights to live peacefully.
Anonymous5
03-20-13, 01:51
WAAAAAAAY too expensive for those street-walking sluts, wannabe models. A fair price is 80k. If they want more, they have no idea of the real prices in Colombia.
A better option is Donde Rosia. A taxi will take you there for 7 USD.They do that because LDV is in El Laguito and is the only place such as that in el lagutio. It's tourist central and form my understanding el lagutio has the highest property value per sq meter in all of Cartagena. That's also where the Hilton is located at, so they know foreigners will be in town with money to spend. They expect some foreign chumps to stroll in and pay those insane prices to get some Colombian action, and the tourists are flocking ever since the Secret service scandal hit the news. I did get quoted at some decent rates at LDV and from my experience it will usually be the bitches from Medellin that will ask 300k and up for services initially. When I say bitches though, I'm not referring to all girls in generals but actually obnoxious rude bitches. There are some nicer girls in there who will talk to you and will likely quote you a better starting price to which you can negotiate with. The key I believe is filtering out the bitches and finding the nicer girls. Problem is the bitches know that some tourist schmuck will venture in all drunk one night and equate higher price with higher quality and service. Thus all girls will start a very high rate just hoping some tourist will take the bait. I suppose if I was in that profession, not that I plan to enter, I'd try the same thing. The tourist douche will have money to spend and will assume that spending more will result in better quality performance, similar to other ventures and purchases in life where some people falsely assume that more money automatically equals better product or service. While paying more at times does entitled better product or services in most cases, this is not always the case.
BTW, where is the donde rosia place you speak of?
Black Page
03-20-13, 14:49
I read again that "Elektra is closed". Is it true? Or just a misunderstanding? Anyone in CTG now may check and tell? Thanks.
I am going to CTG this Sunday. I would be horrified to know that my favorite haven is closed!
DreamCarnarvon
03-20-13, 15:41
They do that because LDV is in El Laguito and is the only place such as that in el lagutio. It's tourist central and form my understanding el lagutio has the highest property value per sq meter in all of Cartagena. That's also where the Hilton is located at, so they know foreigners will be in town with money to spend. They expect some foreign chumps to stroll in and pay those insane prices to get some Colombian action, and the tourists are flocking ever since the Secret service scandal hit the news. I did get quoted at some decent rates at LDV and from my experience it will usually be the bitches from Medellin that will ask 300k and up for services initially. When I say bitches though, I'm not referring to all girls in generals but actually obnoxious rude bitches. There are some nicer girls in there who will talk to you and will likely quote you a better starting price to which you can negotiate with. The key I believe is filtering out the bitches and finding the nicer girls. Problem is the bitches know that some tourist schmuck will venture in all drunk one night and equate higher price with higher quality and service. Thus all girls will start a very high rate just hoping some tourist will take the bait. I suppose if I was in that profession, not that I plan to enter, I'd try the same thing. The tourist douche will have money to spend and will assume that spending more will result in better quality performance, similar to other ventures and purchases in life where some people falsely assume that more money automatically equals better product or service. While paying more at times does entitled better product or services in most cases, this is not always the case.
BTW, where is the donde rosia place you speak of?300k is WAY too much to pay for these hos, even if it is TLN. When I was in Costa rica a few years ago, I met a colombian chick who was quoting way more than all the nica and costa rican girls. She was hot but of course I did not cave in. Later that night I was able to pick up a cute costa rican girl for half the price LOL. Seems like Cartagena is nothing but a tourist trip destination. I may have to reconsider my plans and visit Medellin instead.
Mambomasden
03-21-13, 08:32
$$ of course. But when mongering in Rio de Janeiro the gals went NUTs for Victoria Secrets Body Creams. Worth its weight in plata, in the right situiation. Are their similar popular sundries to bring to Cartagena? Thanks in advance for 411,
Going to Caragena, santa marta in 2 months.
BTW, where is the donde rosia place you speak of?Not sure if he means Casa Rosario. Which is a dump!
Black Page
03-22-13, 08:18
I read again that "Elektra is closed". Is it true? Or just a misunderstanding? Anyone in CTG now may check and tell? Thanks.
I am going to CTG this Sunday. I would be horrified to know that my favorite haven is closed!Any kind soul in CTG is able to check "de visu" and report? Thank you.
Any kind soul in CTG is able to check "de visu" and report? Thank you.Hi, I was at Elektra yesterday at 4am. It was closed, like it has been the whole week. There is a smaller place just around the corner now, they call it Elektracita which was open untill 5am.
Anonymous5
03-23-13, 16:52
Not sure if he means Casa Rosario. Which is a dump!I did get a club / bar card from some fly looking chica when I was hanging around the clock tower area with Joe. The place is called El Paraiso del Marino club, supposedly a new place according to the card, and has a psicina / Bilar / Discoteca / restaurante, which I didn't know at the times translates to pool / billiards, disco / club, and restaurant. I should've have gone to check the place out, as the girl herself was super hot and I really like playing billiard / ppol. Perhaps it was lively inside as well. Worth giving a shot if Elektra is closed as this place says it is open 24 hours, according to the business card I was given. It doesn't seem to far from old city, but I was already scared of leaving that region after the shakedown. Its address is Nuevo Campestre 10 no 56B. Worth checking out if your in town I suppose. Let me know how the place is if any of you do make it out there, as I didn't get a chance to visit myself.
Black Page
03-23-13, 22:57
Hi, I was at Elektra yesterday at 4am. It was closed, like it has been the whole week. There is a smaller place just around the corner now, they call it Elektracita which was open untill 5am.How was the Elektracita? Smaller place? Less girls? Or the same girls packed in a smaller place?
Where are going the girls in these days after 3am? Elektra has always been MY PLACE, best place where to pick up hotties.
How was the Elektracita? Smaller place? Less girls? Or the same girls packed in a smaller place?
Where are going the girls in these days after 3am? Elektra has always been MY PLACE, best place where to pick up hotties.It's a smaller place and less girls then used to be in Elektra. Which sucks as Elektra was my fav bar also. Also had to pay to get in. 10k. Girls there mostly were from LDV, outside from tu candela etc.
Also it is kinda a makeshift bar, all outside area, think patio area in Elektra. Watch your bill also, evertime I paid for a drink they "forgot" my change.
I can confirm that Elektra is closed and 'replaced' by Elektracita. It's smaller and quieter. It's not owned by Aldo, who I'm told 'didn't pay the electricity' on Elektra (which I doubt) and is 'always in the casino' as someone else mentioned.
Anonymous5: thank you for your honest and comprehensive reports. You're right to be nervous about carrying party gifts around Cartagena. I'm stopped probably 1 in 10 journeys. I always put them down the back of the taxi seat in case I'm taken by surprise with a stop. So far down the back that I've sometimes lost it! But I'd prefer that than being caught with something. You're right that Cartagena is full of sharks. However, it's much much worse if you speak zero Spanish. I speak enough, and with a decent accent, so I get by. I probably also have mentally accepted that I will generally overpay, so I don't get stressed. I still challenge and haggle a lot and make sure they don't take me for a fool, but only up to a point.
Tu Candela is a lot of fun, but it's best to bring someone there.
The Marina place, if I remember correctly, isn't new. I think (I could be wrong) I've been there and it was about 15 minutes ride from Centro, but was suprisingly large, plush and new. About 15 girls, and some hotties, but zero customers. I could be wrong about this place but I don't think so.
Night 4: pretty amazing that she got up and left. Never heard of that before. Maybe you have one of those faces.
Overall, yep you had some bad luck. But the second time can only get better! Go again, be prepared to lose $50k now and then, go to Playa Hollywood, Mr Babilla, Cafe del Mer, LDV and Elektracita. Relax and enjoy!
A.
How was the Elektracita? Smaller place? Less girls? Or the same girls packed in a smaller place?
Where are going the girls in these days after 3am? Elektra has always been MY PLACE, best place where to pick up hotties.
Anonymous5
03-26-13, 21:34
I can confirm that Elektra is closed and 'replaced' by Elektracita. It's smaller and quieter. It's not owned by Aldo, who I'm told 'didn't pay the electricity' on Elektra (which I doubt) and is 'always in the casino' as someone else mentioned.
Anonymous5: thank you for your honest and comprehensive reports. You're right to be nervous about carrying party gifts around Cartagena. I'm stopped probably 1 in 10 journeys. I always put them down the back of the taxi seat in case I'm taken by surprise with a stop. So far down the back that I've sometimes lost it! But I'd prefer that than being caught with something. You're right that Cartagena is full of sharks. However, it's much much worse if you speak zero Spanish. I speak enough, and with a decent accent, so I get by. I probably also have mentally accepted that I will generally overpay, so I don't get stressed. I still challenge and haggle a lot and make sure they don't take me for a fool, but only up to a point.
Tu Candela is a lot of fun, but it's best to bring someone there.
The Marina place, if I remember correctly, isn't new. I think (I could be wrong) I've been there and it was about 15 minutes ride from Centro, but was suprisingly large, plush and new. About 15 girls, and some hotties, but zero customers. I could be wrong about this place but I don't think so.
Night 4: pretty amazing that she got up and left. Never heard of that before. Maybe you have one of those faces.
Overall, yep you had some bad luck. But the second time can only get better! Go again, be prepared to lose $50k now and then, go to Playa Hollywood, Mr Babilla, Cafe del Mer, LDV and Elektracita. Relax and enjoy!
A.Thanks for the reporting on Elektra, I can stop feeling as though I was misled that it was not closed. Also, thanks for reading through my report. I'm from a culture where bargaining is a way of life. People of my culture look down upon you if you don't even give a modicum of effort to negotiate the best deal, so it's inbred in me and I have no choice but to try to get the best deal. If I'm ever back in CTG, I'll def take your advice in regards to the party gifts, although I may form a new strategy to be a bit moderate or just take some losses, ie dispose of everything before leaving a place. You can always score later on, and if I'm in a place for 2-3 hours, it gives me decent amount of time to do some and dump the rest. The girl from the 1st night, even recommended I do that as I was leaving the motel with her. Even if I'm going through 2 purchases a night, it still is less expensive for what I might be purchasing at home for a single. I can always stash some back at my place, and if I find a girl early on, we can always head back to my place for some re-up. At least with this strategy, I won't have to constantly have on my possession.
As for the girl who left on the 4th night, I didn't explain the entire story. There was a small wrinkle I didn't mention. While in the cab ride back to El Laguito, I noticed she got really close to me quickly after 2-3 minutes in the cab. I had a similar experience in South Africa with a girl in a taxi. I was more naive at the time, and the girl in SA ended up pick pocketing me without me having the slightest of clue. When I got to my hotel, I noticed the money missing and the girl paid for the encounter. At that point, I new I had been pickpocketed and lost a little more than our encounter, but couldn't do anything about it. It did make me aware of how well a pickpocket could operate and taught me a lesson to not be so naive. In CTG, in the taxi, the girl got close to me and my first reaction was to protect my pockets. I guess my intuition and instincts just played their part without me even having to think about it. I dress well, am decent a looking guy, and am fairly young looking. I don't believe my appearance would give her reason to believe I was a bad person or that I wouldn't pay the agreed on price. The fact that she even asked for prepayment prior to action also leads me to believe that she targets victims who she can either pickpocket, or she robs them once they give her prepayment. Maybe that's her game. It's speculation on my part, but that's what my instinct lead me to believe. Somehow, I have a good feeling about people's motives, just as I did about he jetski guys, and why I made it a point to check the time from 3 different people upon boarding the jetski and 2-3 different people after getting off. I'm usually good with getting a feel for people's motives, although I failed miserable with girl on night #5 of my stay. That was perhaps because I tried to rush the transaction and didn't get a feel for what kind of personality and motives that girl had. All in all, I believe that girl who left the apt because of prepayment not being agreed upon has some ulterior motive.
Either way, thanks for reading my reports, and if I do go back I will check out the places you mentioned, and hopefully Elektra will be reopened by then. I'm already looking at travel deals from Spirit air.
Anonymous5: Great reports. Thank you for your contributions.
This week and hopefully the week after, the talent pool in CTG hopefully would go up a bit. My friend and 4 of her friends that work at La Isla in MDE flew down to CTG last night. They plan to stay for a week or two and work the beach :-D.
-V
Towelboy2010
03-27-13, 03:50
I am a senior member who began mongering in South East Asia in 2003. What an adventure that 1st trip was!
I am planning a trip later this spring, with a buddy, to either the Dominican Republic or Columbia (Cartagena & Medellin).
For about four months now I have been reading the forums and still have not made up my mind on the best choice. Tho I am leaning towards Columbia. I am thinking those who may have been in SEA and the DR & Columbia can steer me in the right direction.
I am 58, American, no Spanish ability (tho I am taking an adult 'Ed course on conversational Spanish). I am most familiar with the monger scene in the Philippines (read GFE) and have had great success there. I loved going to the LA Café in Manila and picking up the girls one or 2 at a time. Ha ha ha.
I generally get 2. 3 girls over the course of the evening. The most I had was 5 in one night in Angeles City (1-2-2). For instance, it sounds like at Blackbeards in the DR, that they roll up the streets by midnight when I am just getting started. I am friendly, cheerful and easy going and seldom get rejected. I search more for "chemistry" than looks. I watch my money, but don't pinch it either, generally staying with market rates.
If I went to Columbia, I would probably use Fabio in Cartagena and stay at the Mansion in Medellin.
I am a former band member so I do like to party (cola) and that is one thing Columbia offers that the others do not tho I am years out of practice now anyway.
I will continue to read, but experienced advice is welcome at this point.
Thanks, Bob
Black Page
03-27-13, 05:05
For about four months now I have been reading the forums and still have not made up my mind on the best choice. Tho I am leaning towards Columbia. I am thinking those who may have been in SEA and the DR & Columbia can steer me in the right direction.Ok, first thing to learn is that you are probably referring to COLOMBIA. If you buy a ticket for Columbia, you might find yourself in Washington DC, which does not offer exactly the same opportunities.
Black Page
03-27-13, 05:22
I do not think Casa Benjamin and Casa Golan were ever even mentioned here, but I do think it's worth to let you know.
Casa Benjamin is a house at Laguito, sea side, almost in front of the police post, after the last calle to the sea (where's Dona Marciana). You see "BENJAMIN" written in large letters on the front.
There is an anonymous door, always closed. To open, people must ring the bell. It's kind of hotel, where patrons are only guys from Israel. I've seen some of them, young and fit. I guess that they must come from the army or something. (All Israelitis come from Army, but they look definitely in service to me).
So what's the point to mention this place in ISG?
Now that Elektra is closed, many girls like to go there at night. It's not open to men, that is hobby players like us. Only to girls, to the sole benefit of hotel guests. Do they pay well? Apparently not, but this place is famous among CTG working girls because of the widest choice of drugs freely circulating there, including the worst: cripa, coca, synthetic, mixes of coca and other things to smoke, etc etc.
A girl told me that some girls even fuck for free there at early morning, just because of the hype.
I did not see Casa Golan, but I heard it's the same kind of place: open to tourists from Isreal, famous for sex&drugs parties every night.
I saw the place from the sea, passing by on a boat. It looks anonymous. Two girls were sitting on the terrace. It reminded me a place like the Mansion in MDE, with girls and guests freely meeting, if it was not for the drugs (no drugs at Mansion).
This place makes me feel bad and nervous. Only girls allowed to enter the door, which is permanently and discretely closed. How could it be tolerated by the authorities? Everyone knows the amount of drugs that are sold and consumed there every night, but they must have some good friend located high.
i do not think casa benjamin and casa golan were ever even mentioned here, but i do think it's worth to let you know.
so what's the point to mention this place in isg?casa benjamin did catch my attention, too. once i was strolling by with a hooker and there was police in front the place. the hooker explained to me that "the police come to squeeze money out the israelis from time to time (because there are ****d girls in the house)". i don't personally think those guys would risk such a brilliant business and neverending poontang by doing something so stupid. but here's maybe the answer to one of your questions; they pay to be left alone.
another source: a hooker on the beach that had been married to an israeli and spoke hebrew. first she said she was staying in a "hostel" but as there aren't many in el laguito, if any, i asked the name and on hearing it i became curious; again this benjamin. according to her only israeli guys and girls from colombia and argentina are allowed in. why argentina? jewish girls from its large jewish community? i wouldn't know. 30 000 cop a night or something, so it's relative cheap for el laguito (two-story beds). and more girls come by only to do drugs and let the guests fuck them for free,"because they just don't care".
we remember the late noah goldberg who they say advertised his business very openly and that way became too easy for his enemies to track down. the israelis can advertise and give detailed information on internet as much as they want. as long it is written in hebrew, they will be safe because no colombian punk will understand it.
all in all, very innovative business idea, i must say.
MacchuCondor
03-28-13, 03:02
Hi,
I am staying in Cartagena until Friday and then leave for Bogota. To my great disappointment. So far I didn't encounter any chicas malas, neither on the beach nor in the more popular places like cafe del mar or that mister bar.
Any numbers from wingmen are of course greatly welcome. If I don't succeed tonight I will just go for this website www.scortlatin.com, quite pricey but looks serious (if anybody has experiences there please let me know). BTW I am staying in the Atlantic Lux hotel which has an awful guest policy, they charge you 80 K Pesos. Is that normal in Colombia?
Thanks a lot!
Hillbilly69
03-28-13, 20:11
Hi,
I am staying in Cartagena until Friday and then leave for Bogota. To my great disappointment. So far I didn't encounter any chicas malas, neither on the beach nor in the more popular places like cafe del mar or that mister bar.
Any numbers from wingmen are of course greatly welcome. If I don't succeed tonight I will just go for this website.
www.scortlatin.com
, quite pricey but looks serious (if anybody has experiences there please let me know). BTW I am staying in the Atlantic Lux hotel which has an awful guest policy, they charge you 80 K Pesos. Is that normal in Colombia?
Thanks a lot!Read the map it ain't complicated.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83
Black Page
03-28-13, 23:45
the hooker explained to me that "the police come to squeeze money out the israelis from time to time (because there are ****d girls in the house)". i don't personally think those guys would risk such a brilliant business and neverending poontang by doing something so stupid.having some **** girl in house cannot such a big problem, i believe. i don't think this is the only place in colombia where occasionally some u.a. girl may be in. some girls (not many indeed, only few ones and at times) hooking around the bars of el centro are <18, but they have fake cedulas to enter hotels. i personally met various ones who were 17 (but when they look 20, nobody cares).
the bad thing is that this place is like extra-territory. in 3 days in ctg, i've been stopped and checked for drugs 2 times by the police at night (+ 1 more time in mde). thumbs up to the police from me for that, because i like the place i attend is clean, and i am happy when police does its job. so, why casa benjamin is allowed to be a notorious place where worst drugs circulate freely every night? everyone knows that in ctg, but the police does not enter. i am curious to see what would happen, if one night 10 policemen enter at 4am to check thoroughly the place and all patrons.
Black Page
03-28-13, 23:50
Hi,
I am staying in Cartagena until Friday and then leave for Bogota. To my great disappointment. So far I didn't encounter any chicas malas, neither on the beach nor in the more popular places like cafe del mar or that mister bar.Maybe a pair of good glasses could be the solution. There are good Optics stores around the Centro and Bocagrande.
Black Page
03-28-13, 23:59
The truth is that all "normal" working girls are now back home, to their home towns, to visit parents and sons, if they have.
I'm now back home after 3 days in CTG. I've been so disappointed in these days:
- Elektra is closed. Elektrica (with accent on the "I") is nothing compared to our old good Elektra. WHERE ARE YOU, ALDO?
- The choice of girls is poor, never been so poor in all my visits to CTG. Few ones, and not so sexy and cumplacentes as I always enjoyed.
It was not my choice to choose these days, but next time, if any, I will do whatever possible to move my visit to some other week.
PS: the name of the place is ELEKTRI'KA, with accent on the "i", not Elektracita or whatever other funny name I read here before.
The truth is that all "normal" working girls are now back home, to their home towns, to visit parents and sons, if they have.Sorry to hear about your bad luck. I had a similar experience between new year's eve and three wise men last year.
On the other hand it's relieving to hear that because all this week cab drivers have kept telling me Medellin will be half empty and Fase II, Luna Lunera etc. Closed on Thursday-Friday. And all this week I've been blaming myself for not booking the flights and a flat in CTG.
Hi,
I am staying in Cartagena until Friday and then leave for Bogota. To my great disappointment. So far I didn't encounter any chicas malas, neither on the beach nor in the more popular places like cafe del mar or that mister bar.
Any numbers from wingmen are of course greatly welcome. If I don't succeed tonight I will just go for this website.
www.scortlatin.com
, quite pricey but looks serious (if anybody has experiences there please let me know). BTW I am staying in the Atlantic Lux hotel which has an awful guest policy, they charge you 80 K Pesos. Is that normal in Colombia?
Thanks a lot!It means they are not interested in guests that bring back hookers. All the high end hotels are like that. Either rent an apartment of go to a lower end hotel.
Hillbilly69
03-29-13, 18:54
The truth is that all "normal" working girls are now back home, to their home towns, to visit parents and sons, if they have.
I'm now back home after 3 days in CTG. I've been so disappointed in these days:
- Elektra is closed. Elektrica (with accent on the "I") is nothing compared to our old good Elektra. WHERE ARE YOU, ALDO?
- The choice of girls is poor, never been so poor in all my visits to CTG. Few ones, and not so sexy and cumplacentes as I always enjoyed.
It was not my choice to choose these days, but next time, if any, I will do whatever possible to move my visit to some other week.
PS: the name of the place is ELEKTRI'KA, with accent on the "I", not Elektracita or whatever other funny name I read here before.Heard the wind is blowing like a mother fucker, that doesn't do much for beach action but it wouldn't hurt to check out the Laguito side of the beach and near the Hilton alot of chics hang there out of the wind.
Black Page
03-30-13, 01:41
Heard the wind is blowing like a mother fucker, that doesn't do much for beach action but it wouldn't hurt to check out the Laguito side of the beach and near the Hilton alot of chics hang there out of the wind.I patrolled thoroughly all the area, including the stroll till Hilton. Not a single girl :/
Either they were all packed on the other side of the door of Casa Benjamin, either they are simply back home for spending the Semana Santa with their families.
wtf are you talking about? you on drugs fucker?
casa benjamin did catch my attention, too. once i was strolling by with a hooker and there was police in front the place. the hooker explained to me that "the police come to squeeze money out the israelis from time to time (because there are ****d girls in the house)". i don't personally think those guys would risk such a brilliant business and neverending poontang by doing something so stupid. but here's maybe the answer to one of your questions; they pay to be left alone.
another source: a hooker on the beach that had been married to an israeli and spoke hebrew. first she said she was staying in a "hostel" but as there aren't many in el laguito, if any, i asked the name and on hearing it i became curious; again this benjamin. according to her only israeli guys and girls from colombia and argentina are allowed in. why argentina? jewish girls from its large jewish community? i wouldn't know. 30 000 cop a night or something, so it's relative cheap for el laguito (two-story beds). and more girls come by only to do drugs and let the guests fuck them for free,"because they just don't care".
we remember the late noah goldberg who they say advertised his business very openly and that way became too easy for his enemies to track down. the israelis can advertise and give detailed information on internet as much as they want. as long it is written in hebrew, they will be safe because no colombian punk will understand it.
all in all, very innovative business idea, i must say.
Hillbilly69
04-04-13, 13:29
WTF are you talking about? You on drugs fucker?An American Jew tried that business plan in unit 903 of Mirador del Laguito minus the drugs, it didn't work out too good for him, jail, paid 500 dollar fine, later extorted and ran out of town and back to Sosua, he was awful lucky the Police didn't call ICE agents or his ass would have been 30 years in the big house.
Jail, fine, extorted. The colombian police exist to protect and to serve their own interest, so any of the aforementioned is no big surprise, it's a third world country. But that doesn't mean he had done anything illegal. Especially as it was 'minus the drugs', I don't really see the problem.
The Israelis are running happily their business and don't seem to be scared off by the crooked cops.
And I don't think the American customs and immigration people jail any asses in Colombia.
An American Jew tried that business plan in unit 903 of Mirador del Laguito minus the drugs, it didn't work out too good for him, jail, paid 500 dollar fine, later extorted and ran out of town and back to Sosua, he was awful lucky the Police didn't call ICE agents or his ass would have been 30 years in the big house.
Hillbilly69
04-05-13, 11:24
Jail, fine, extorted. The colombian police exist to protect and to serve their own interest, so any of the aforementioned is no big surprise, it's a third world country. But that doesn't mean he had done anything illegal. Especially as it was 'minus the drugs', I don't really see the problem.He had a bike that he rode to patrol the Elemetary school,, all the people that live in Cartagena know who I am talking about and why he was ran out of town.
the israelis don't have ****d girls (or do you have other information?) so where is the similarity between the two business plans?
he had a bike that he rode to patrol the elemetary school,, all the people that live in cartagena know who i am talking about and why he was ran out of town.
More photos for your review.
Hi,
My wingman and I arrived in Cartagena yesterday, after a week in Medellin. Last night, we visited PleyClub, then LDV. Both of them were crowded. I picked up Francesca (?) at PleyClub and I liked her quite a bit. She was a cute spinner, with a lovely smile, eager to please, just a joy to be with. Later at LDV, I picked up Cardina, from Baranquilla. She was a lot of fun at the club, but back in my hotel room, she was all business. However, she was really good in the sack, and that was well worth the price of admission. Unfortunately, Francesca had a cold and told me about it up front, but I could not resist DFK. OTOH, Cardina decided to spend the night in my hotel room, and by early morning, she was running a fever. I shared with her some of the fever medication that I carry with me when I travel. Knock on wood, I don't show any signs yet of either cold or the flu.
I paid 200k pesos at PleyClub for 30 min, as for Cardina, when I asked how much she wanted, she never responded. This morning, she seemed pleased with what I gave her.
Now, to my rippoff question. We took a taxi from Bocagrande and asked the driver to take us to Linda Chica. He said he knew where it iwas, and quoted us 15k. However, when we arrived at the place, the sign said PleyClub, hummm? I assumed that maybe there was a name change. Then, once inside, I asked the bartender how much it would be for a 30 min session, he replied 250, which seemed a bit high. Later, when I asked Francesca the same question, she said 200 and that's what I paid. Does this imply that we can negotiate the rate at these places? Or was the extra 50k a cut for the taxi driver? I also asked Francesca whether PlayClub and Linda Chica are one ad the same? She said no.
Even though I was pleased with my session at PlayClub, I was not pleased with that experience. Any hint on how to avoid that next time. Thanks a lot!
CartaAngel
04-09-13, 02:08
It is pretty obvious that the taxi driver was trying to rip you off, he didn't take you to chicas lindas because he was getting no kick back for the things you were buying there, use the map that people have used from this forum or get a good tour guide, BTW tell me more about your wingman from Medellin I have friends going there soon
after our experience that first night, we were prepared this time. same routine, but this time, the driver took us to chica linda. there were also a few other strip clubs next to it, such as bar cacique, and a few others.
the facilities did not look as nice as in pleyclub, but the line up was just as good. it was not too difficult to find some cuties. i ended picking evelyn from medellin, and my wingman picked up another chick from medellin. they quoted us 90k pesos, much better deal than at pleyclub. my girl was a lot of fun, with plenty of dfk. she was eager to please. i noticed that bbbj is not the norm here but i did not care much for it. unless a girl is good at it, i am usually not interested in bbbj. some girls gave me cbj without me asking, but i could not careless about that either. however, i had to promise a good tip before girls would agree to dfk, and often times they were reluctant kisser. one of them even asked me how much tips i was going to give her.
we liked chica linda so much that we went back the following day. i picked natalia, from medellin. she was a winner as well, tall, curvy, friendly, nice smile, and generous with dfk. i had another great time. my wingman was also happy with the girl he took.
also. 3 nights in a row, we did strip club followed by ldv. i picked up there carina from baranquilla, lia from medelin, catalina from cali. ldv has a been rather a disapointment. except for carina, the others came across as hard core wgs, nice in the club but all business once in the hotel room. also, the club seems to charge a hidden bar fine. every girl insisted that she had to have 70k worth of drinks before she can leave the club. and, their starting price was around 350k pesos for short time, pretty hefty. even though there were some real eye candy there, i thought the pricing structure was too high and too confusing. i usually don't like to haggle, but i have to admit that i had fun.
we meant to try some fls at the beach but we were not too successful. we did not spend too much time at the beach, as it was too hot. we also did not locate tony the tout, mostly because we did not try too hard. we were pretty satisfied with our routine in the evening. we did meet 2 fls in boca grande, but one of them appeared **** and we did not want to take any chances.
my wingman has something against the casas. he seems to think they are not much fun, so we did not try any. when we were in medellin, i had a good time at the casas, new life in particular.
BTW tell me more about your wingman from Medellin I have friends going there soonActually, my wingman came with me from the US, and both of us are newbies for Colombia. It was his first trip and my second.
As a result, we stayed at the Hotel Medellin Plaza, also known as the Mansion & Castillo (2 houses). This worked great for us, as there was quite a bit of folks knowledgeable and willing to help, such as Boyd and Fernando. We arrived smack in the middle of Easter week, so they saved our butt by helping us with our mongering activities. Hence, we hit the ground running, and within a few days, we became very comfortable with all the mongering activities there.
It is pretty obvious that the taxi driver was trying to rip you off, he didn't take you to chicas lindas because he was getting no kick back for the things you were buying there, use the map that people have used from this forum or get a good tour guide, BTW tell me more about your wingman from Medellin I have friends going there soonPardon, but where is this map of which you speak? Sry not seeing it.
Lefeu are you still here? Would be cool to link up, or if anyone else is here on the hobby please do tell. I'm staying in the old town and not seeing any of these places yet, but have to do a bit of walking around, and probably more research too. Any tips appreciated, thanks.
Hillbilly69
04-13-13, 18:43
Pardon, but where is this map of which you speak? Sry not seeing it.Https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83
Https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83Thanks Hillbilly69, that's very helpful.
Wow, it loks like you spent a fair amount of time on this. And that you were in Cartagena a while. I take it you liked it?
I'm wondering how this city compares to Medelin for this hobby. So far, I haven't been impresed with Cartagena. It seems overun with backpackers and super agresive touts (I'm not a bad speler. Keyboard is mesed up, from this humidity I think.)
Last night, a couple of guys tried to get me to go to a strip club, and actualy folowed me through the streets at some point, reapearing an hour later: "Remember us?" Not the experience you want your first night in Colombia.
Just right now, this guy cursed me out be / see I didn't want to hear his pitch. We exchanged profanities in English and I walked away.
Now I know I shouldn't let a few bad aples spoil the bunch. But in my experience, this is what hapens when there's s too damn any tourists. Is Medelin a beter experience, in terms of interacting with the local populace and for the chicas as wel? There's ben so much street crap and I haven't even goten to the chicas.
Black Page
04-14-13, 10:38
I think I understand yr feeling. Ypu still need to understand how and where to move there. I have some suggestions.
Read MANY MANY pages of this forum. Go back reading for months or better years. Skip short comments and read long informative reports (yes, also mine LOL). Start from the RoD section.
Avoid Dulce Vida, Pleyclub, and touts on the Holliwood beach, a. K. A. The infamous Tony. I would avoid also Isis. Fun is different.
At night, dress well. Do not be confused with backpackers. Have a look at Colombian guys hanging out at night with girls. They are dressed with pricey clothes and are HANDSOME. Yes, there could be competition.
Think that this is not a brothel. Prepagos DO CHOOSE their company. If you are handsome are dressed decently, a girl will probably be keen to lower her first standard rate (150k / hr, that is ST, that is 1 shot). If she does not like you, she might ask more and will not negotiate.
Above all, Fun in CTG is EXPENSIVE! :-(
Said all this, in CTG I have had some of the most exciting and memorable adventure of my life. I cant wait to be back.
Thanks Hillbilly69, that's very helpful.
Wow, it loks like you spent a fair amount of time on this. And that you were in Cartagena a while. I take it you liked it?
I'm wondering how this city compares to Medelin for this hobby. So far, I haven't been impresed with Cartagena. It seems overun with backpackers and super agresive touts (I'm not a bad speler. Keyboard is mesed up, from this humidity I think.)
Last night, a couple of guys tried to get me to go to a strip club, and actualy folowed me through the streets at some point, reapearing an hour later: "Remember us?" Not the experience you want your first night in Colombia.
Just right now, this guy cursed me out be / see I didn't want to hear his pitch. We exchanged profanities in English and I walked away.
Now I know I shouldn't let a few bad aples spoil the bunch. But in my experience, this is what hapens when there's s too damn any tourists. Is Medelin a beter experience, in terms of interacting with the local populace and for the chicas as wel? There's ben so much street crap and I haven't even goten to the chicas.
Hillbilly69
04-14-13, 11:54
Thanks Hillbilly69, that's very helpful.
I'm wondering how this city compares to Medelin for this hobby. So far, I haven't been impresed with Cartagena. It seems overun with backpackers and super agresive touts (I'm not a bad speler. Keyboard is mesed up, from this humidity I think.) You should go to the beach today, Playa Hollywood find a Canapy and stay there for at least 3 hours. Sit in the ones that are red with a Coca Cola logo. Ask him where are the chicas. Don't buy pina coloatas and say," No gracias" when the touts come by and act uninterested. Pay attention the groups of girls sitting there are more than likely putas.
You should go to the beach today, Playa Hollywood find a Canapy and stay there for at least 3 hours. Sit in the ones that are red with a Coca Cola logo. Ask him where are the chicas. Don't buy pina coloatas and say," No gracias" when the touts come by and act uninterested. Pay attention the groups of girls sitting there are more than likely putas.Thanks to both of you for the tips. Guess I'll have to dig under the surface a bit more. We'll see what it uncovers!
A group of about 12 of us are headed to Cartagena for first time in end of May. I have seen different advice in regards to where to go for putas / tuts. Some of you suggest going to places like prey club while others suggest just going to clubs like Dulce Vida. What time to things really get started on the weekend? 10 or 11 or midnight? Are the girls from prey club allowed to leave to party outside that spot or do you have to pay some fee to take these girls outside of the club? Also what are the prices reallly some have quoted 100$ to 150$ for 1hour while others are quoting 50-75$. Does it matter what day meaning Friday / Saturday vs Sunday / Monday?
Also we plan on going to the beach on a Sunday afternoon. Is playa Hollywood the place to go to meet the chicas as one of the links suggested.
I'm just trying to figure out what is the best plan of attack for a group this big. Does anyone know a driver- preferably bus that could take us around at night? We plan on using Fabio for the first night.
El Vagabundo
04-24-13, 14:56
A group of about 12 of us are headed to Cartagena for first time in end of May. I have seen different advice in regards to where to go for putas / tuts. Some of you suggest going to places like prey club while others suggest just going to clubs like Dulce Vida. What time to things really get started on the weekend? 10 or 11 or midnight? Are the girls from prey club allowed to leave to party outside that spot or do you have to pay some fee to take these girls outside of the club? Also what are the prices reallly some have quoted 100$ to 150$ for 1hour while others are quoting 50-75$. Does it matter what day meaning Friday / Saturday vs Sunday / Monday?
Also we plan on going to the beach on a Sunday afternoon. Is playa Hollywood the place to go to meet the chicas as one of the links suggested.
I'm just trying to figure out what is the best plan of attack for a group this big. Does anyone know a driver- preferably bus that could take us around at night? We plan on using Fabio for the first night.With such a large group and all first timers to Cartagena, you may need a little extra help. Vans with bi lingual drivers / tour guides, both male and female are available. Some time a group like yours does well the hire a boat loaded with beers and girls and take a day to the islands. There are a lot of great activities available for a bachelor party here in Cartagena. Both cultural and party type. These kinds of activity can take some time to arrange.
Just let me know if you would like to set some activitys up in advance of your arrival.
Hillbilly69
04-25-13, 20:55
I'm just trying to figure out what is the best plan of attack for a group this big. Does anyone know a driver- preferably bus that could take us around at night? We plan on using Fabio for the first night.I wouldn't get too far ahead of yourself, I wouldn't plan on 12 people going until you have email confirmation of their airline tickets, your probably going to end up with 6 people at the most.
Very strange post since you stated you have been there previously, or did you forget you posted this message? LOL or possibly is this another troll post promoting the tout Fabio?I have actually been to Cartagena and my wife is from Baranquilla but have never been on this type of trip. None of the other guys have been there.
So came into town for a bachelor party. I have been here many times. It was my 3 friends first. I was to be their guide. They did not like Juan's accomodations. We walked into Hotel Caribe and they got a 2BR suite with a junior suite for a shade under 2. 000. 000 for 2 nights! I was fine with Juan's place. The bus boy told me the chica fee is 120. 000.
We stopped by Cafe Del Mar for dinner. A lot of families. Saw some hot chicks at the bar. Is that where the working girls are? I recall someone suggesting to ask security?
Next stop was Pley Club. Taxi drivers were all over the board. From 25k to $10 but settled on 12k. Is this the going rate from Del mar? A nice selection at Pley Club, albeit a lot of silicone. They quoted 220k on premises and 600k to leave for a couple hours (including salida). It was begining to sound like a Union because most have the same quote going. We got a couple of numbers to call during the day. One hardcore one wouldn't hang during the day. Anyways, I suggested LDV. We had been at Pley Club since 10 and it was about 11:30 now.
Taxi driver wanted 17k to Laguito. Is this the rate? The guys were getting a bit tired of haggling taxi drivers so we just agreed. Happened to find one that speaks English. He said he worked at Pley Club and Isis on the side. He suggested Isis first for less silicone. All the while bashing LDV saying that they were basically street working girls. Untested with Aids. Also mentioned the drugging a while back. Anyway Isis was dead. About 10 girls and 3x as many guys. In and out we head over to LDV.
Lots of chicas many doable. The union was in full force asking for about 200-250k short time and 500k TLN. Most agreed to go for 400k. I forgot to try asking for 100k-150k like some say is possible. I speak Spanish as did one of the other guys and still quoted those rates. Apparently, the rumors of a bar fine is true! We tried to leave and they wanted 1 bottle minimum per girl! We picked 3 girls and they agreed to 1 and a half bottles (we only bought one) so we ordered another half. I asked one of my amigas this and she confirmed that a bottle or 100k minimum drink minimum. I picked a girl I knew from a previous trip and she just walked out. I guess the trick is to get her number and have her meet you around the corner to avoid this barfine hassle.
To be continued.
Hillbilly69
04-27-13, 22:29
So came into town for a bachelor party. I have been here many times. It was my 3 friends first. I was to be their guide. They did not like Juan's accomodations. .Let me gues you are talking about the Atlantis Penthouse?
Anonymous5
04-27-13, 23:44
So came into town for a bachelor party. I have been here many times. It was my 3 friends first. I was to be their guide. They did not like Juan's accomodations. We walked into Hotel Caribe and they got a 2BR suite with a junior suite for a shade under 2. 000. 000 for 2 nights! I was fine with Juan's place. The bus boy told me the chica fee is 120. 000.
We stopped by Cafe Del Mar for dinner. A lot of families. Saw some hot chicks at the bar. Is that where the working girls are? I recall someone suggesting to ask security?
Next stop was Pley Club. Taxi drivers were all over the board. From 25k to $10 but settled on 12k. Is this the going rate from Del mar? A nice selection at Pley Club, albeit a lot of silicone. They quoted 220k on premises and 600k to leave for a couple hours (including salida). It was begining to sound like a Union because most have the same quote going. We got a couple of numbers to call during the day. One hardcore one wouldn't hang during the day. Anyways, I suggested LDV. We had been at Pley Club since 10 and it was about 11:30 now.
Taxi driver wanted 17k to Laguito. Is this the rate? The guys were getting a bit tired of haggling taxi drivers so we just agreed. Happened to find one that speaks English. He said he worked at Pley Club and Isis on the side. He suggested Isis first for less silicone. All the while bashing LDV saying that they were basically street working girls. Untested with Aids. Also mentioned the drugging a while back. Anyway Isis was dead. About 10 girls and 3x as many guys. In and out we head over to LDV.
Lots of chicas many doable. The union was in full force asking for about 200-250k short time and 500k TLN. Most agreed to go for 400k. I forgot to try asking for 100k-150k like some say is possible. I speak Spanish as did one of the other guys and still quoted those rates. Apparently, the rumors of a bar fine is true! We tried to leave and they wanted 1 bottle minimum per girl! We picked 3 girls and they agreed to 1 and a half bottles (we only bought one) so we ordered another half. I asked one of my amigas this and she confirmed that a bottle or 100k minimum drink minimum. I picked a girl I knew from a previous trip and she just walked out. I guess the trick is to get her number and have her meet you around the corner to avoid this barfine hassle.
To be continued.Your taxi cab rates are about normal, especially from Pley club to el laguito. Isis is crap, I'd recommend staying away from that place. At LDV, you should never agree to such high rates. There's an art of negotiation. The girls think you have that kind of money to fork over so will start at a very high rate. They know you will try to bargain so they start very high. I wouldn't go over 200k max for the girls there at TLN, perhaps 225k the chica was of exceptional quality. When I was there I got good looking girls to quote me at much lower rates than what you encountered, and was told a drink minimum of 3 drinks of whatever. Most girls wanted tequila, but I'd usually look for the cheapest thing to buy them on the menu. 100k for drink minimum for chica means they hosed you down. They're most certainly getting a kickback off the 100k you left at the bar. Don't want to be harsh on you, as you sound like a first timer, but even on my first time there I was more financially responsible. Enjoy your trip, but please don't drop that kind of money there, as it makes it tougher for us to negotiate when people like you get suckered into such high prices. The girls will rightfully always start at those high rates when they know people will just pay them. If you show resistance, the girls have less options and will drop there prices.
JeffCooper
04-28-13, 03:18
athioctane are you the same as dogandcat? So many similarities.
Anyway, I am also in town and did not do anything with this bar fine thing. I let the girl handle it. Just told her I would wait outside and then picked her up when she left.
But I must say: you are crazy to pay these prices. Come on. 500? That must be a joke. Short time 200 is also too much I think. For these prices I can buy at home. But I confirm that the chicas are very hard to bargain down. Most would not accept my 100k short time offer. But we are obliged to get them to meet real prices, come on guys, even if you can throw money around in buckets its not fair. We are spoiling the place. And ultimately it will be fucked forever like Rio. So have a little ambition!
World Travel 69
04-28-13, 20:07
What is the location of this place?
Thanks.
Lots of chicas many doable. The union was in full force asking for about 200-250k short time and 500k TLN. Most agreed to go for 400k. I forgot to try asking for 100k-150k like some say is possible. I speak Spanish as did one of the other guys and still quoted those rates. Apparently, the rumors of a bar fine is true! We tried to leave and they wanted 1 bottle minimum per girl! We picked 3 girls and they agreed to 1 and a half bottles (we only bought one) so we ordered another half. I asked one of my amigas this and she confirmed that a bottle or 100k minimum drink minimum. I picked a girl I knew from a previous trip and she just walked out. I guess the trick is to get her number and have her meet you around the corner to avoid this barfine hassle.
To be continued.
What is the location of this place?
Thanks.Sounds like he's referring to the UWC hahaha, the Union of Working Chicas in LDV.
They have the chocha, and they want to set a good price, between eachother, and sell at a higher price of course.
Hi guys,
I'm flying into Cartagena the 3rd week in May 2013. I have never been to Colombia but have been all over DR many many times.
The original reason I was going was to meet a girl from LatinCupid. Com but it seems to be falling thru (to long of a story and does not matter much). I was going to stay in Barranquilla to be close to the girl but that not longer matters.
Here is my Issue / Thoughts, One I was hoping to meet up with any guys from the US that might be going?
I'm 43 and very easy going.
The bigger one, is it really safe for me to go? The day I got my plane ticket the state department issued a updated warning.
I know they cover their ass with that stuff but it's getting me thinking and I have read a lot of stuff on other web sites.
I'm planning on a back and forth on via taxi from Cartagena to Barranquilla a lot and that does not sound like a good idea at night.
My back up plan is DR and change the ticket, I feel at home almost in DR and know what to expect, the down side is I like the woman a lot but
For the most past a bit darker then I like and I really like straight (real) hair. I really want to see if I can find some non pro action with a really pretty girl.
Camaro1257
04-29-13, 03:41
Mirador Laquito.
I had an excellent studio apartment for $60. 00 per night. I didn't have a good view but I was more than satisfied for the price. The internet was slow sometimes but overall it was pretty efficient. Security was on point 24 hours a day. Chicas had to sign in with cedula and the front door was always locked, you had to be buzzed in and out by security. The location was familiar to all the taxi drivers and there were ATM's and restaurants close by. Would I stay there again? HELL YEAH!
Transportation.
Walking was easy to most spots in Laquito and Boca Grand. Taxis to the Old City were about 6, 000CP ($3. 50). I knew a local from one of my previous trips who showed my around town and took me to the poor man's venues for gas money.
Restaurants.
There were a variety according to taste but I enjoyed Riquisimo's which was within walking distance of my apartment. The food was good but on the expensive side. There was something for everybody within walking distance.
Roadmap to success
The beach during the day at Playa Hollywood. The Clock Tower in the Old City in the early evening. LDV later at night. The After One of Cartagena is Elecktra in the Old City. If you follow that path you should have some success.
La Dolce Vida (LDV)
My first night I was pissed at Pocahontas wanted 350, 000CP regardless as to how fine she was. I went back almost every night and enjoyed the ambiance the music and the view. I know I'll get hate from Brazil lovers but in my opinion Colombianas are some of the most beautiful woman in the world. LDV was plastic surgery central but many of the chicas were naturally beautiful. My ego enjoyed the attention with their eyes saying 'pick me! ' The staff was attentive and cordial.
Electricka.
Ok after hours spot but it was a small venue. I didn't care for the lighting ambiance or music but there were some FYNE chicas there.
Clock Tower.
Just inside the front entrance of the Old City male and female sex workers hang out. There were some good looking chicas there but as a rule they couldn't touch the LDV chicas.
Casas.
Barrio Los Alpes: Allondra – salida 80, 000CP negotiate with the chica her tarifa. Even though I had a bad experience they had the finest chicas of all the othe casas I went to and I am confident the gringo tax could be avoided by speaking to the hefe first and let him know the deal.
Gringo Tax.
The hefe in Allondra tried to hit me up for 500, 000CP after I already negotiated with the chica for 150, 000CP. He fell and hit his head if he thought I was going to put his kid through private school so I walked out.
Electrika the hefe said I had to buy 80, 000CP in drinks before I could take a woman out I gave him 20, 000CP to callete! He watches gringos and when he sees them make their move he tries to hit you up. If you go just ask your chica to leave and you follow her later.
Tarifas.
At the Clock Tower and La Playa I wouldn't pay more than 100, 000CP.
LDV can range from 150, 000CP to 350, 000CP. I would stay between 150 – 200, 000CP.
Electrika can range from 150, 000CP to 350, 000CP. I would stay between 150 – 200, 000CP.
Casas all have salidas and you have to negotiate separately with the chicas. In house will always be cheaper but most do half hour increments.
Policia.
Always carry a copy of your passport with you because there are road blocks everywhere especially at night. There is no such thing as reasonable articulable suspicion or probable cause. In Colombia I was stopped twice and patted down. If you like party favors I would encourage you to pass just my humble opinion. Last edited by camaro1257; Today at 03:22 AM.
SpiderRider
04-29-13, 04:07
I hope this is the proper forum and I can receive some good advice thank you.
I am going to Cartagena tomorrow 4/29 to 5/1 after a week with friends in Barranquilla. I enjoyed my friends but need another form of fun before I return to the dismal hell of USA. I have played in other cities incl Medellin, but never Cartagena. My plan is simple now. Hang out at the beach. Meet girls there.
Going to try Costa del sol hotel. Unless someone has a better idea. I can also pitch-in for an unoccupied room in an apartment. Anyway, If anyone wants to advise me or meet up with a CARTA newbie. I am open to suggestion.
SpiderRider
SpiderRider
04-29-13, 04:44
Hi guys,
I'm flying into Cartagena the 3rd week in May 2013. I have never been to Colombia but have been all over DR many many times.
The original reason I was going was to meet a girl from LatinCupid. Com but it seems to be falling thru (to long of a story and does not matter much). I was going to stay in Barranquilla to be close to the girl but that not longer matters.
Here is my Issue / Thoughts, One I was hoping to meet up with any guys from the US that might be going?
I'm 43 and very easy going.
The bigger one, is it really safe for me to go? The day I got my plane ticket the state department issued a updated warning.
I know they cover their ass with that stuff but it's getting me thinking and I have read a lot of stuff on other web sites.
I'm planning on a back and forth on via taxi from Cartagena to Barranquilla a lot and that does not sound like a good idea at night.
My back up plan is DR and change the ticket, I feel at home almost in DR and know what to expect, the down side is I like the woman a lot but
For the most past a bit darker then I like and I really like straight (real) hair. I really want to see if I can find some non pro action with a really pretty girl.MY 2 cents: There is well known super-wealthy Libertarian commentator, famous for very extensive world travel. He frequently reminds readers that these State Department Warnings are a clear indicator of where you SHOULD visit. Indicates plentiful amenities and good value among many other advantages. Or so he says.
Hillbilly69
04-29-13, 15:36
Hi guys,
I'm flying into Cartagena the 3rd week in May 2013. I have never been to Colombia but have been all over DR many many times.
The original reason I was going was to meet a girl from LatinCupid. Com but it seems to be falling thru (to long of a story and does not matter much). I was going to stay in Barranquilla to be close to the girl but that not longer matters.
Here is my Issue / Thoughts, One I was hoping to meet up with any guys from the US that might be going?
I'm 43 and very easy going.
The bigger one, is it really safe for me to go? The day I got my plane ticket the state department issued a updated warning.
I know they cover their ass with that stuff but it's getting me thinking and I have read a lot of stuff on other web sites.
I'm planning on a back and forth on via taxi from Cartagena to Barranquilla a lot and that does not sound like a good idea at night.
My back up plan is DR and change the ticket, I feel at home almost in DR and know what to expect, the down side is I like the woman a lot but
For the most past a bit darker then I like and I really like straight (real) hair. I really want to see if I can find some non pro action with a really pretty girl.You need to either stay in Barranquilla maybe at the Lincoln, or stay in Laguito and invite the girls there from Barranquilla by bus.
Not a good idea to want to meet a monger if you are courting a hot non pro unless you want to get cock blocked, undermined, snitched on, and while your in the bathroom he tries getting her number, bad mouthing you and he probably mooches off you as well.
Is it safe? Cartagena all of Laguito is safer than any spot I can think of in the DR that I have been, Barranquilla not so much but it depends on whether you blend in or not. If it was me I would stay in Cartagena and invite one in from Barranquilla, especially seeing it is your first time there she could show you around seeing you don't have the hoe monger stereotype stamped on your forehead. I don't suggest hanging with her in Playa Hollywood at all but if for some reason Tony knows her she is a puta in disguise.
John Gault
04-29-13, 16:43
Hi guys,
I'm flying into Cartagena the 3rd week in May 2013. I have never been to Colombia but have been all over DR many many times.
The original reason I was going was to meet a girl from LatinCupid. Com but it seems to be falling thru (to long of a story and does not matter much). I was going to stay in Barranquilla to be close to the girl but that not longer matters.
Here is my Issue / Thoughts, One I was hoping to meet up with any guys from the US that might be going?
I'm 43 and very easy going.
The bigger one, is it really safe for me to go? The day I got my plane ticket the state department issued a updated warning.
I know they cover their ass with that stuff but it's getting me thinking and I have read a lot of stuff on other web sites.
I'm planning on a back and forth on via taxi from Cartagena to Barranquilla a lot and that does not sound like a good idea at night.
My back up plan is DR and change the ticket, I feel at home almost in DR and know what to expect, the down side is I like the woman a lot but
For the most past a bit darker then I like and I really like straight (real) hair. I really want to see if I can find some non pro action with a really pretty girl.In CTG all of a sudden there are reports of this drink minimum before you can take girls out of LDV, and Electra. Sure you can wait outside for them, but to me this is BS. The dollar is really strong in the DR compared to Colombia. In Sosua there are some light skinned girls to be had. Since you already like the DR I think that is your best bet.
If you decide on CTG then don't take a taxi to BAQ. They have vans going there thru the day for a much better rate.
As for the state department, and their warnings I just laugh at them as CTG is safer than any large city in the USA.
As far as your wanting non pro action with a really pretty girl you will need to speak passable Spanish, and be able to devote a lot of time, and some money as they like to be wined, and dined when they hook up with a Gringo. Also drama will be on the menu.
. As far as your wanting non pro action with a really pretty girl you will need to speak passable Spanish, and be able to devote a lot of time, and some money as they like to be wined, and dined when they hook up with a Gringo. Also drama will be on the menu.Ain't that the truth! Hahaha.
Coming from experience ehh Señor Gault. :)
Thanks for all the in put everyone.
Hillbilly69 cracked me up about meeting a monger. LOL I will take that advise.
My Spanish is not bad I have been around Latin woman for over 10 years in relationships.
Not sure what I will do, Last time I was in Sousa I rented a house and had a blast. But the Draw of the woman in Colombia is strong.
I might just go and stay in CTG, I have a great deal on a ticket and don't want to waste more money to change.
.............................................. Roadmap to success
The beach during the day at Playa Hollywood. The Clock Tower in the Old City in the early evening. LDV later at night. The After One of Cartagena is Elecktra In the Old City. If you follow that path you should have some success........................................
Electricka.
Ok after hours spot but it was a small venue. I didn't care for the lighting ambiance or music but there were some FYNE chicas there......................................
Very nice summary Camero. Will be in CTG this Friday with 2 friends. We will be staying in the same building, Mirador Laquito, but in a little pricer apartments. I have one question: as far as I know Elecktra does not exist anymore. Is this true?
Bandy
Very nice summary Camero. Will be in CTG this Friday with 2 friends. We will be staying in the same building, Mirador Laquito, but in a little pricer apartments. I have one question: as far as I know Elecktra does not exist anymore. Is this true?
BandyI didn't get a chance to go but my LDV amiga said it opened back up 2 weeks ago.
Hillbilly69
04-30-13, 00:32
Not sure what I will do, Last time I was in Sousa I rented a house and had a blast. But the Draw of the woman in Colombia is strong.
I might just go and stay in CTG, I have a great deal on a ticket and don't want to waste more money to change.Get a Colombia Cupid paying account, plenty of hot Barranquilla girls on there compared to Latin Cupid, they will ask how many times you have been there, tell them you need a guide, pay there Marsol or Berlinas bus fare.
As far as accommodations go by yourself? Tough call Martins beach isn't avail end of May, I am staying in Jack's 7th floor Torre Centuro condo pretty soon, was in it February and everything in it is new, great view, wifi, daily maid A / C 50 bucks a night, the building is older but quite frankly I have stayed at all the Mirador Del Laguito apts they all suck, something is always wrong with them and towels is always an issue except for the penthouse.
Camaro1257
04-30-13, 03:17
Very nice summary Camero. Will be in CTG this Friday with 2 friends. We will be staying in the same building, Mirador Laquito, but in a little pricer apartments. I have one question: as far as I know Elecktra does not exist anymore. Is this true?
BandyYes, Elecktra is open the Hefe will watch you and try to gringo tax you, this can be avoided by having your chica meet you outside without walking out together.
SpiderRider
04-30-13, 06:39
So came into town for a bachelor party. I have been here many times. It was my 3 friends first. I was to be their guide. They did not like Juan's accomodations. We walked into Hotel Caribe and they got a 2BR suite with a junior suite for a shade under 2. 000. 000 for 2 nights! I was fine with Juan's place. The bus boy told me the chica fee is 120. 000.
We stopped by Cafe Del Mar for dinner. A lot of families. Saw some hot chicks at the bar. Is that where the working girls are? I recall someone suggesting to ask security?
Next stop was Pley Club. Taxi drivers were all over the board. From 25k to $10 but settled on 12k. Is this the going rate from Del mar? A nice selection at Pley Club, albeit a lot of silicone. They quoted 220k on premises and 600k to leave for a couple hours (including salida). It was begining to sound like a Union because most have the same quote going. We got a couple of numbers to call during the day. One hardcore one wouldn't hang during the day. Anyways, I suggested LDV. We had been at Pley Club since 10 and it was about 11:30 now.
Taxi driver wanted 17k to Laguito. Is this the rate? The guys were getting a bit tired of haggling taxi drivers so we just agreed. Happened to find one that speaks English. He said he worked at Pley Club and Isis on the side. He suggested Isis first for less silicone. All the while bashing LDV saying that they were basically street working girls. Untested with Aids. Also mentioned the drugging a while back. Anyway Isis was dead. About 10 girls and 3x as many guys. In and out we head over to LDV.
Lots of chicas many doable. The union was in full force asking for about 200-250k short time and 500k TLN. Most agreed to go for 400k. I forgot to try asking for 100k-150k like some say is possible. I speak Spanish as did one of the other guys and still quoted those rates. Apparently, the rumors of a bar fine is true! We tried to leave and they wanted 1 bottle minimum per girl! We picked 3 girls and they agreed to 1 and a half bottles (we only bought one) so we ordered another half. I asked one of my amigas this and she confirmed that a bottle or 100k minimum drink minimum. I picked a girl I knew from a previous trip and she just walked out. I guess the trick is to get her number and have her meet you around the corner to avoid this barfine hassle.
To be continued.Doing my part. Turned down 2 chicas insisting on 200k. One at the beach, one at a restaurant. Likely I may breakdown soon.
Hillbilly69
04-30-13, 10:49
Yes, Elecktra is open the Hefe will watch you and try to gringo tax you, this can be avoided by having your chica meet you outside without walking out together.I sent them a message on Facebook, they confirm that they are open again, confusing with the other club nearby with a similar name.
https://www.facebook.com/ELEKTRACLUBCARTAGENA?hc_location=stream
Hillbilly69
04-30-13, 11:54
Doing my part. Turned down 2 chicas insisting on 200k. One at the beach, one at a restaurant. Likely I may breakdown soon.I don't ever ask a girl how much, I tell them what I have and for how long. Get their number before you negociate, they are on the clock at night, daytime sessions are easily half price. On another note I hardly ever stay inside the LDV, once I get my beer I go outside and sit on the bench and go in and out as I please with my beer. You guys in groups should split up and sit on the stairs if your getting lubed for 100k bottles.
SpiderRider
04-30-13, 22:08
I don't ever ask a girl how much, I tell them what I have and for how long. Get their number before you negociate, they are on the clock at night, daytime sessions are easily half price. On another note I hardly ever stay inside the LDV, once I get my beer I go outside and sit on the bench and go in and out as I please with my beer. You guys in groups should split up and sit on the stairs if your getting lubed for 100k bottles.I believe this is excellent advice. Thank you for sharing. Great map as well. I am having a very pleasant final day in CO. Everyone be happy and stay safe. In spite of various impediments to perfect chica bliss, we are very fortunate men.
Camaro1257
05-02-13, 01:04
Mirador Laquito.
I had an excellent studio apartment for $60. 00 per night. I didn't have a good view but I was more than satisfied for the price. The internet was slow sometimes but overall it was pretty efficient. Security was on point 24 hours a day. Chicas had to sign in with cedula and the front door was always locked, you had to be buzzed in and out by security. The location was familiar to all the taxi drivers and there were ATM's and restaurants close by. Would I stay there again? HELL YEAH!
Transportation.
Walking was easy to most spots in Laquito and Boca Grand. Taxis to the Old City were about 6, 000CP ($3. 50). I knew a local from one of my previous trips who showed my around town and took me to the poor man's venues for gas money.
Restaurants.
There were a variety according to taste but I enjoyed Riquisimo's which was within walking distance of my apartment. The food was good but on the expensive side. There was something for everybody within walking distance.
Roadmap to success
The beach during the day at Playa Hollywood. The Clock Tower in the Old City in the early evening. LDV later at night. The After One of Cartagena is Elecktra in the Old City. If you follow that path you should have some success.
La Dolce Vida (LDV)
My first night I was pissed at Pocahontas wanted 350, 000CP regardless as to how fine she was. I went back almost every night and enjoyed the ambiance the music and the view. I know I'll get hate from Brazil lovers but in my opinion Colombianas are some of the most beautiful woman in the world. LDV was plastic surgery central but many of the chicas were naturally beautiful. My ego enjoyed the attention with their eyes saying 'pick me! ' The staff was attentive and cordial.
Electricka.
Ok after hours spot but it was a small venue. I didn't care for the lighting ambiance or music but there were some FYNE chicas there.
Clock Tower.
Just inside the front entrance of the Old City male and female sex workers hang out. There were some good looking chicas there but as a rule they couldn't touch the LDV chicas.
Casas.
Barrio Los Alpes: Allondra – salida 80, 000CP negotiate with the chica her tarifa. Even though I had a bad experience they had the finest chicas of all the othe casas I went to and I am confident the gringo tax could be avoided by speaking to the hefe first and let him know the deal.
Gringo Tax.
The hefe in Allondra tried to hit me up for 500, 000CP after I already negotiated with the chica for 150, 000CP. He fell and hit his head if he thought I was going to put his kid through private school so I walked out.
Electrika the hefe said I had to buy 80, 000CP in drinks before I could take a woman out I gave him 20, 000CP to callete! He watches gringos and when he sees them make their move he tries to hit you up. If you go just ask your chica to leave and you follow her later.
Tarifas.
At the Clock Tower and La Playa I wouldn't pay more than 100, 000CP.
LDV can range from 150, 000CP to 350, 000CP. I would stay between 150 – 200, 000CP.
Electrika can range from 150, 000CP to 350, 000CP. I would stay between 150 – 200, 000CP.
Casas all have salidas and you have to negotiate separately with the chicas. In house will always be cheaper but most do half hour increments.
Policia.
Always carry a copy of your passport with you because there are road blocks everywhere especially at night. There is no such thing as reasonable articulable suspicion or probable cause. In Colombia I was stopped twice and patted down. If you like party favors I would encourage you to pass just my humble opinion. Last edited by camaro1257; Today at 03:22 AM.One thing I forgot to mention in my summary your appearance does matter to some of the chicas I saw in LDV and Electricka. I saw more than one walk away from grubby looking guys. In addition I did recieve a favorable comment from one; I was only wearing a polo shirt, athletic pants and gym shoes. She made it seem like she was more attracted to men who dress nice. Just a thought.
JeffCooper
05-03-13, 02:27
Guys,
Can someone of you explain to me the chicas on the beach thing as I don't quite get it. I was there now multiple times but all I can see is normal tourists and families. I know I am at the right spot as I got to know Tony already. I find it really hard to find chicas during the day, but for me is better, as I don't like to party until 5 in the morning every
Night so much. Out of despair I asked Tony if he knew some chicas. The outcome was that he presented to me two horrible looking sluts, no joke the ugliest bitches I have seen in CTG to date and demanded 70k. I needed to buy a beer for all of them just to get out of that.
I mean there must be a bunch of decent looking girls during the day somewhere or are they all asleep until 8 pm?
Guys,
Can someone of you explain to me the chicas on the beach thing as I don't quite get it. I was there now multiple times but all I can see is normal tourists and families. I know I am at the right spot as I got to know Tony already. I find it really hard to find chicas during the day, but for me is better, as I don't like to party until 5 in the morning every
Night so much. Out of despair I asked Tony if he knew some chicas. The outcome was that he presented to me two horrible looking sluts, no joke the ugliest bitches I have seen in CTG to date and demanded 70k. I needed to buy a beer for all of them just to get out of that.
I mean there must be a bunch of decent looking girls during the day somewhere or are they all asleep until 8 pm?You won't find girls at the beach.
Describe to Tony exactly what are looking for.
Tell him how much you will pay her, how much you will pay for the taxi etc.
In Tony's mind he wants to make at least 100K from this appointment, all cut from direct fees, drinks margin, taxi, a cut from the girl etc. Your total bill should be close to 200K all included, Tony and a girl and this is a fairdeal. You have to be tough and explain to him when you won't pay anything, like when she won't meet your expectations in person. Here is an example. You pay to the girl 150K taxi included for day ST. 30K out of it goes to T. You pay T. Directly 50K for 'a beer'. Tony's driver will pick up the girl and drive her back. Once with a girl turn off her and yours mobile phones.
Hillbilly69
05-03-13, 11:18
Guys,
Can someone of you explain to me the chicas on the beach thing as I don't quite get it. I was there now multiple times but all I can see is normal tourists and families.I will be there in a few days, few people spend more time at the beach than me. Fao is an alternative to Tony he is just a little to the left as you are facing the water. You need to sit close to the water as possible and watch each and every girl that walks by. These are Colombia girls not Sosua putas they aren't going to come up and grope you. My friend that lives there says the puta count is down 50 percent, he blames the Secret Service scandal. I ain't so sure, I think them putas are traveling like never before and have a thorn up their ass to visit Mexico, if you even have a couple of those popular Medellin prepagos on your Facebook page you can see what I am saying. Best time at the beach is 2-5 pm. And any group of girls without a guy with them assume they are putas.
Hillbilly69
05-08-13, 01:55
Decent talent at the beach today. I took two an 8 and a seven. 80k pesos each.
Hillbilly69
05-09-13, 01:03
Tied up at dentist this morning. Went parasailing out on friends boat. Thanks Cptnb. Hit the beach. Kind of dead seeing it is May and midweek. Almost took a transie back to apart. Biggest tits on the beach. WTF. Found a 20 year old flsca 90 lbs with a majik tight coochee and just finished up for 80k again. Headed to Centro shortly.
Flying in from south Texas. This is my second time. I stayed at Hotel Caribe, about 2 years ago and it was hell trying to get chicks in. Can you please help I'm taking my main wing man with m this time and I would like to get it right and not have to take chicks to the "by the hour places". Now I've heard a few good suggestions but then the apt has something wrong like. Apartamentos Torres Del Lago not having hot water, maid service, dirty, towel service, or sheet service and Mirador I think the reviews said it also did not have sheet or towel service. I'm willing to pay extra so me any my boy can: 1) have our own rooms 2) not have to do wash sheets 3) bring chicks up to our pad with out having to pay extra a la "Hotel Caribe" *Please Help*
Hillbilly69
05-10-13, 13:38
Beach was dead yesrerday. A couple lookers but just took numbers and passed. Went to Centro 8pm gave a guy a walking tour so can navigate better to Isis. Elektra and others. Electricita is closed best I can figure is Aldo opened a different place till he came up with back rent. Tony has been on his best behavior. Was by the clock tower just before 9pm last night and arguably a 9 was sitting on the bench. She looked like Halle Berry. Some dumb ass with a beer cooler tried to play pimp saying 150k pesos for the girls. I told him get away from me. 4 other girls on the bench as well sevens and eights. I offered the Halle Berry chic 100k pesos for an hour and she gladly accepted. Road her for an hour good tight one. Left wingman hanging but he was waiting gor a calena at Isis anyway. Got another dentist appointment this morning had to get 3 fillings and a root canal total damage 440 dollars. Got 1760 per dollar exchange rate in laguito. Haven't made it to Centro to check the rates seeing they were closed. Another Hilton opened like a dumb ass I didn't ask about chica policies or prices. On a Kindle fire so sorry about spelling. Hampton by Hilton is yhe name of the new hotel it is across the street from Atlantic casino and behind Palmetto one and just walking by not sure if quite open yet.
Hillbilly69
05-10-13, 14:25
Flying in from south Texas. This is my second time. I stayed at Hotel Caribe, about 2 years ago and it was hell trying to get chicks in. Can you please help I'm taking my main wing man with m this time and I would like to get it right and not have to take chicks to the "by the hour places". Now I've heard a few good suggestions but then the apt has something wrong like. Apartamentos Torres Del Lago not having hot water, maid service, dirty, towel service, or sheet service and Mirador I think the reviews said it also did not have sheet or towel service. I'm willing to pay extra so me any my boy can: 1) have our own rooms 2) not have to do wash sheets 3) bring chicks up to our pad with out having to pay extra a la "Hotel Caribe" *Please Help*301 in Playa Mar Juan Ventura rents it for 100 a night. I checked it out myself last night.
Black Page
05-12-13, 12:42
I am sorry if I ask a question that comes and comes back again. I have a friend who'd like to come visit CTG. He is has no problems of funds and he is used to stay in very good hotels. I feel his best accommodation would be the Santa Clara in San Diego, or some of the nice boutique hotels in the Centro. The reason is that he likes chicas, but he would NOT travel only for that purpose. He likes style, good food and the charme of the city within the Walls. Therefore, I'd recommend him that hotel, because of its quality and of the magic location.
Anybody knows what happens if ones at night brings back a girl to Santa Clara (I assume she would not be a sleazy one from CL. Media Luna)? Stopped at the door? Asked to pay extra? Thanks.
Nino Bravo
05-12-13, 13:13
Anybody knows what happens if ones at night brings back a girl to Santa Clara (I assume she would not be a sleazy one from CL. Media Luna)? Stopped at the door? Asked to pay extra? Thanks.To answer your 2 questions. Yes, and Yes.
Flying in from south Texas. This is my second time. I stayed at Hotel Caribe, about 2 years ago and it was hell trying to get chicks in. Can you please help I'm taking my main wing man with m this time and I would like to get it right and not have to take chicks to the "by the hour places". Now I've heard a few good suggestions but then the apt has something wrong like. Apartamentos Torres Del Lago not having hot water, maid service, dirty, towel service, or sheet service and Mirador I think the reviews said it also did not have sheet or towel service. I'm willing to pay extra so me any my boy can: 1) have our own rooms 2) not have to do wash sheets 3) bring chicks up to our pad with out having to pay extra a la "Hotel Caribe" *Please Help*Apartments are not hotels. There are no maids and clean sheets everyday. However, I believe the Mirador penthouse (180-200 / night) includes maid service. If the apartment doesn't, Juan can set you up with a maid for 30-40k a day.
Hillbilly69
05-12-13, 20:09
Novia showed up night before last from Medellin. The beach was kind of dead. Ran into Locogringo in the small Olympica. Exchanged some info and laughs I haven't seen him in while. Thanks for the lift. 1800 was the exchange rate in Centro. Buddy was leaving for the USA today so he took us out on his boat parasailing and to a remote beach at Isla Terre on south side of the Rosario islands. Went to Isla the Cholon later had lobster and shrimp for 40k pesos. Novia did some snorkling near there. Owner of the apartment I am staying in called he was making us up a dinner so we headed back for a fine meal.
JeffCooper
05-12-13, 20:26
Guys,
If you don't like an apartment for whatever reasons I recommend you to stay in the new Hampton by Hilton Hotel. I am there right now and it is fantastic. It only recently opened and everything is totally new, paint just dry. But the best thing is, they don't have a Lobby when you enter, the lobby is on the 17st floor so you can bring somebody to your room without anyone taking notice. To me this is even better than an apartment where you always have 2 to 3 people watching you when you enter the building. I don't like that and that is why I moved here. The only risk is of course how long they will do it like that. With all the scammers and con artists in Cartagena they might soon move a security guy in front of the elevators to prevent people from opening a food stall or a CD vending table in the entrance. But for now it is fine, I can really recommend it.
Black Page
05-12-13, 21:48
To answer your 2 questions. Yes, and Yes.I missed to add the 3rd question: after being stopped and having been requested to pay the extra, is the girl allowed? Anybody knows the policy of Santa Clara?
I was at Sheraton Medellin, and I had to pay a significant extra (60k) every night I had a friend with me, and she registered with me at the reception. The night the girl just showed up alone at the reception (she came from the club by bike, I came by taxi 15 mins before) , the tax was increased to 100k, because the policy of the hotel hinders occasional guests.
Nino Bravo
05-13-13, 01:10
I missed to add the 3rd question: after being stopped and having been requested to pay the extra, is the girl allowed? Anybody knows the policy of Santa Clara?
I was at Sheraton Medellin, and I had to pay a significant extra (60k) every night I had a friend with me, and she registered with me at the reception. The night the girl just showed up alone at the reception (she came from the club by bike, I came by taxi 15 mins before) , the tax was increased to 100k, because the policy of the hotel hinders occasional guests.Santa Clara is very strict. The girl will be allowed, but they will keep her cedula until she leaves. That has been my experience.
JeffCooper
05-13-13, 01:27
Guys,
These guest policies of some hotels are ridiciulous. I would never accept that, look for an appartment instead, or, if you don't like that I recommend you to stay in the new Hampton by Hilton Hotel. I am there right now and it is fantastic. It only recently opened and everything is totally new, paint just dry. But the best thing is, they don't have a Lobby when you enter, the lobby is on the 17st floor so you can bring somebody to your room without anyone taking notice. To me this is even better than an apartment where you always have 2 to 3 people watching you when you enter the building. I don't like that and that is why I moved here. The only risk is of course how long they will do it like that. With all the scammers and con artists in Cartagena they might soon move a security guy in front of the elevators to prevent people from opening a food stall or a CD vending table in the entrance. But for now it is fine, I can really recommend it.
Hillbilly69
05-13-13, 01:36
Went to Playa Hollywood today. It was packed with people and some really hot putas. I brought sand so no sampling for me. Thanks for the boat excursion yesterday CpnB.
Guys,
Can someone of you explain to me the chicas on the beach thing as I don't quite get it. I was there now multiple times but all I can see is normal tourists and families. I know I am at the right spot as I got to know Tony already. I find it really hard to find chicas during the day, but for me is better, as I don't like to party until 5 in the morning every
Night so much. Out of despair I asked Tony if he knew some chicas. The outcome was that he presented to me two horrible looking sluts, no joke the ugliest bitches I have seen in CTG to date and demanded 70k. I needed to buy a beer for all of them just to get out of that.
I mean there must be a bunch of decent looking girls during the day somewhere or are they all asleep until 8 pm?You can find girls on the beach. Usually there are 3 to 4 there at a time. Look for any girls alone or a group of 2 or 3 girls. Just go up to them and say hello. Will be hard to find a decent.
One for 100, 000 but more like 150, 000 to 200, 000 and make sure they understand you are talking pesos. The other place to find girls is along the road from the beach to the hilton.
I have been approached by very hot young girls there. There is also a guy standing up front of the apartment building I was staying that could call girls for you.
I have a email address of a very hot chica in the mid 20s I meet this way. If you are interested I could send you the email and a picture.
Black Page
05-13-13, 15:01
Guys,
If you don't like an apartment for whatever reasons I recommend you to stay in the new Hampton by Hilton Hotel. I am there right now and it is fantastic. It only recently opened and everything is totally new, paint just dry. But the best thing is, they don't have a Lobby when you enter, the lobby is on the 17st floor so you can bring somebody to your room without anyone taking notice. To me this is even better than an apartment where you always have 2 to 3 people watching you when you enter the building. I don't like that and that is why I moved here. The only risk is of course how long they will do it like that. With all the scammers and con artists in Cartagena they might soon move a security guy in front of the elevators to prevent people from opening a food stall or a CD vending table in the entrance. But for now it is fine, I can really recommend it.What great news! I've been always perplexed knowing that even in apts there is someone asking IDs and registering all guests. However, it's true that if guests are not registered, then minimum an ample safety box and double eyes are required.
Black Page
05-13-13, 15:05
Santa Clara is very strict. The girl will be allowed, but they will keep her cedula until she leaves. That has been my experience.Ok. Not so strict. At least, they allow guests (I assume decently dressed, considered the high-class environment).
Think that in my previous favourite hotel in San Diego (a small but cozy one) , last time I was told that that guests were not allowed UNLESS REGISTERED WITH ME UPON MY CHECK-IN. I tried to ask "my novia is coming probably tomorrow or the day after." and their inflexible reply was "ok give me her cedula details now".
Guys,
These guest policies of some hotels are ridiciulous. I would never accept that, look for an appartment instead, or, if you don't like that I recommend you to stay in the new Hampton by Hilton Hotel. I am there right now and it is fantastic. It only recently opened and everything is totally new, paint just dry. But the best thing is, they don't have a Lobby when you enter, the lobby is on the 17st floor so you can bring somebody to your room without anyone taking notice. To me this is even better than an apartment where you always have 2 to 3 people watching you when you enter the building. I don't like that and that is why I moved here. The only risk is of course how long they will do it like that. With all the scammers and con artists in Cartagena they might soon move a security guy in front of the elevators to prevent people from opening a food stall or a CD vending table in the entrance. But for now it is fine, I can really recommend it.Sorry, I would never live in a place without security in the entrance to the building. Too dangerous.
JeffCooper
05-13-13, 16:07
I don't see any security issues. Nobody who is not living at your floor can get to it. And when a chica runs wild, throw her out of the room. The only way she can go is to the exit or to the lobby. The best security for me is good people judgement and a proper "job interview" to figure out if a girl is honest and nice or a crook. Of course you can never tell for sure, but during the years I build up quite a decent sense for that. If a problem arises, I think the guys in front of the apartment buildings would not do any other thing either than call the police. They are pretty useless in my view.
Smilin Jack
05-13-13, 21:31
Gents,
For those who are tired of being ripped off by Tony and the other beach bandits for chairs, beers, etc, here are the
Actual Hollywood Beach prices that the Gringos who live in Cartagena pay (* may be higher in Jan. /Feb.)
A / o May 2013.
Massage, etc.
Full body massage on the beach 20, 000 to 30, 000 COP. Add 5, 000 'propina' if massage is exceptional.
Manicure 10,000.
Pedicure 10,000.
Umbrellas, Chairs, Cabanas
Umbrella with 2 chairs 8, 000*
Tarpa (aka. Cabana) with 2 chairs 10, 000*
Grande tarpa (double with no chairs) 10, 000*
Grande tarpa with 4 chairs 20, 000*
Per chair extra 3, 000*
Per lounger 8, 000*
Table 2, 000*
Beverages
Colombia beer 3, 000 delivery included.
Water 3, 000 delivery included.
Rum – shot 7, 000 plus 1, 000 for delivery*
Cuba Libra 10, 000 plus 2, 000 for delivery*
Coco Loco (served in coconut) 13, 000 delivery included*
Mojito 13, 000 delivery included*
Notes:
• *No guarantee of handling or purity of ice.
• Don't ask me why delivery is included in some drinks and is extra for others – this is Colombia and things often don't make sense to gringos.
301 in Playa Mar Juan Ventura rents it for 100 a night. I checked it out myself last night.Do you know anything about Almirante in Laguito.
(1722 sq. Feet) apt. Was completely remodeled in 2011. There are 3 bedrooms at $150 a night.
JeffCooper
05-15-13, 01:47
I don't get this Tony thing in general. Why ever deal with him? I mean it is not that nobody else rents chairs there and the beer I can get myself if needed (with the added advantage that I can get closer to the real price). I find the people at other spots on the beach much nicer and as I wrote, Tony was not especially helpful with chicas either.
Guys,
These guest policies of some hotels are ridiciulous. I would never accept that, look for an appartment instead, or, if you don't like that I recommend you to stay in the new Hampton by Hilton Hotel. I am there right now and it is fantastic. It only recently opened and everything is totally new, paint just dry. But the best thing is, they don't have a Lobby when you enter, the lobby is on the 17st floor so you can bring somebody to your room without anyone taking notice. To me this is even better than an apartment where you always have 2 to 3 people watching you when you enter the building. I don't like that and that is why I moved here. The only risk is of course how long they will do it like that. With all the scammers and con artists in Cartagena they might soon move a security guy in front of the elevators to prevent people from opening a food stall or a CD vending table in the entrance. But for now it is fine, I can really recommend it.What is the normal guest policy at the Hampton? Also, do they include breakfast like in the USA?
JeffCooper
05-15-13, 05:06
I don't know what their official guest policy is, since I never asked them. But I think no Hotel in the world can forbid you to bring someone to your room. Staying overnight is of course another story. I never had a girl overnight, don't like that. But I doubt that anyone would ever notice at the Hampton (as long as it is like it is now with nobody at the elevators).
In my booking breakfast is included.
Black Page
05-15-13, 09:57
I don't get this Tony thing in general. Why ever deal with him? I mean it is not that nobody else rents chairs there and the beer I can get myself if needed (with the added advantage that I can get closer to the real price). I find the people at other spots on the beach much nicer and as I wrote, Tony was not especially helpful with chicas either.I avoid him as a pest, when I go there. He is not only just trying to overcharge you, but he is also embarrassing with his loud claims and offers in front of everyone, because he likes to show he speaks some words (imagine WHAT words) in English, Italian, etc
Black Page
05-15-13, 09:59
But I think no Hotel in the world can forbid you to bring someone to your room.Unfortunately, yes. They can demand to register ANY guest, and even ask a surcharge, daytime or not.
Hillbilly69
05-15-13, 10:57
I avoid him as a pest, when I go there. He is not only just trying to overcharge you, but he is also embarrassing with his loud claims and offers in front of everyone, because he likes to show he speaks some words (imagine WHAT words) in English, Italian, etcThe only people who use a pimp at the beach are the dumb arses paying more than 80k pesos for short time then go home and complain that Cartagena is expensive, it is if you got dumb look on the face syndrome.
Hillbilly69
05-15-13, 11:20
Got delayed two hours on CTG due to AC problems on the plane actuallyhad to deplane. Bought the big front seat to cut my time. The customs line was too long so missed my flight I should have cut but thought I had time but that 20 minute prior to departure time got me. I was at the Spirit rebooking counter even before my scheduled departure. With carry on only you would think they would have let me board. Heard some Spirit horror stories on getting stiffed for hotels. They paid for a room at Fairfield Inn transport three vouchers and booked me a flight on Us Airway for this morning. I guess the rule is if you have less than an hour to connect they have to pay otherwise you do. The free transportation I waited too long finally took a cab both ways from airport. What a clusterfuck. Nice rooms at the hotel. I got to connect in DC for Detroit hopefully I make it I am in the front again. LOL
Manizales911
05-15-13, 16:41
But I think no Hotel in the world can forbid you to bring someone to your room.Sure they can, and do, and will.
Manizales911
05-15-13, 16:44
I don't get this Tony thing in general. Why ever deal with him? I mean it is not that nobody else rents chairs there and the beer I can get myself if needed (with the added advantage that I can get closer to the real price). I find the people at other spots on the beach much nicer and as I wrote, Tony was not especially helpful with chicas either.Tony is for guys that don't speak spanish, have no balls and are lazy, not that there's anything wrong with that, hahaha.
Got delayed two hours on CTG due to AC problems on the plane actuallyhad to deplane. Bought the big front seat to cut my time. The customs line was too long so missed my flight I should have cut but thought I had time but that 20 minute prior to departure time got me. I was at the Spirit rebooking counter even before my scheduled departure. With carry on only you would think they would have let me board. Heard some Spirit horror stories on getting stiffed for hotels. They paid for a room at Fairfield Inn transport three vouchers and booked me a flight on Us Airway for this morning. I guess the rule is if you have less than an hour to connect they have to pay otherwise you do. The free transportation I waited too long finally took a cab both ways from airport. What a clusterfuck. Nice rooms at the hotel. I got to connect in DC for Detroit hopefully I make it I am in the front again. LOLFor future reference you need to check in at least an hour before a flight because of TSA rules. They need to check everyone going on board the plane. Also, you should have flagged someone down and explained that your plane was late and you had a connecting flight. Usually, they will accomodate you and let you cut.
Hillbilly69
05-16-13, 11:03
For future reference you need to check in at least an hour before a flight because of TSA rules. They need to check everyone going on board the plane. Also, you should have flagged someone down and explained that your plane was late and you had a connecting flight. Usually, they will accomodate you and let you cut.There is no explaining to TSA or Customs workers, there was 2 planes late and several bus loads of people put up in hotels. I had the best chance of making my plane over the others. Ain't no checking in an hour before your flight on a connecting flight, they have no idea I am there before I board and give them my boarding pass which isn't an hour before departure more like 40 minutes.
Ok. Got some digits from a chick last night at a regular club. She had her friend pass over her number cause she was with a dude.
She put down her
Name: xxxxxx.
Pin 555aa5a5 (not actual #)
Then her number:
Xxx-xxx-xxxx.
What the F. With the pin number. Never seen this before.
And went to LDV. First hot chick wanted 300k cause of her big ass. Then I got a nice flaca nice thin waist down from 200k to 160. Very nice action for the night. I told her I should not have to pay regular prices cause my chicks
Back home give it to me for free and they're in the same ball park as these chicks. I told her this it not work and blah blah blah shit boy almost forgot I got some pics.
Blackberry messenger is very popular in Colombia, hence the PIN. Will get more so now that they're going to release it to other phone platforms.
Ok. Got some digits from a chick last night at a regular club. She had her friend pass over her number cause she was with a dude.
She put down her
Name: xxxxxx.
Pin 555aa5a5 (not actual #)
Then her number:
Xxx-xxx-xxxx.
What the F. With the pin number. Never seen this before.
And went to LDV. First hot chick wanted 300k cause of her big ass. Then I got a nice flaca nice thin waist down from 200k to 160. Very nice action for the night. I told her I should not have to pay regular prices cause my chicks
Back home give it to me for free and they're in the same ball park as these chicks. I told her this it not work and blah blah blah shit boy almost forgot I got some pics.
And went to LDV. Then I got a nice flaca nice thin waist down from 200k to 160. Very nice action for the night. I told her I should not have to pay regular prices cause my chicks
Back home give it to me for free and they're in the same ball park as these chicks. I told her this it not work and blah blah blah shit boy almost forgot I got some pics.Right on MG, but why not just stay home if you're getting all that good free stuff blah blah blah.
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Right on MG, but why not just stay home if you're getting all that good free stuff blah blah blah.
&62979; Yo. Got to get away from the business. And even though its free at home it still cost long talks and other shit when they see out and about. I had to call the cops on an ex girl friend when she showed up at my
House and I had another chick over. So let me rephrase its never FREE.
Because its going to cost something.
Nino Bravo
05-19-13, 12:23
Right on MG, but why not just stay home if you're getting all that good free stuff blah blah blah.
&62979; Yeah MG, right on, these chicks should be paying YOU for sex. Don't settle for that shit! LMAO
Blackberry messenger is very popular in Colombia, hence the PIN. Will get more so now that they're going to release it to other phone platforms.When and where did they announce that? I have been waiting for years!
http://mashable.com/2013/05/14/bbm-ios-android/
When and where did they announce that? I have been waiting for years!
Yo. Got to get away from the business. And even though its free at home it still cost long talks and other shit when they see out and about. I had to call the cops on an ex girl friend when she showed up at my
House and I had another chick over. So let me rephrase its never FREE.
Because its going to cost something.I hear ya amigo.
Learned that a long time ago.
I've kind of evolved to being with girls that actually like being with me too.
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http://mashable.com/2013/05/14/bbm-ios-android/Thanks. That is awesome! It's about time! 4 years ago all the girls in Medellin used BBM. Now most use Whatsapp. But still some only BBM because they don't want to pay for a data plan.
Yeah MG, right on, these chicks should be paying YOU for sex. Don't settle for that shit! LMAONo shit guys. And I got a Rolodex of chicks to call for free at home. Where. It. Gets. Old. Now what I'm trying to say <<Negotiations is about turning this in to a buyers market and that why I bull shit with
These chicks about having chick at home or a girl friend (which I kinda do) etc. So this game is all about lying they got all this fake shit going on and sometimes I'll tell them all I have is 80, 100 or what ever and they are.
Going to work you up. They say 200 you say 150 they they say 175 you say 160 and then they don't move so then I'll fuck with them and go back to 150. Just keep fucking with them like they fuck with you then move on.
Then you say ok lets go 160. We got the cash and lie lie lie. Say your going to call the chica from the night before anything to not make them feel special or worth what they are asking.
DriveAllNight
05-21-13, 02:38
I avoid him as a pest, when I go there. He is not only just trying to overcharge you, but he is also embarrassing with his loud claims and offers in front of everyone, because he likes to show he speaks some words (imagine WHAT words) in English, Italian, etcHahaaaa. ESL Profesor Tony:
"Fuck you, motherfucker!" "Hey! HEY! I remember you!" "What's up bro? YOU WANT SOME BLOW? WANT A GIRL? NO STINKY PUSSY CHICAS FROM ME!"
Jesus, that guy. What a nightmare.
CultureShock
05-22-13, 19:33
I avoid him as a pest, when I go there. He is not only just trying to overcharge you, but he is also embarrassing with his loud claims and offers in front of everyone, because he likes to show he speaks some words (imagine WHAT words) in English, Italian, etcLast time I was in CTG was in 2001, and had a run in with this same dude. I can't believe he has been working the same beach for more than a decade.
I speak Spanish very well, so I avoid him. My problem is that he is counterproductive. Meaning he will extort any freelance girls that do a deal with you on the beach. It's basically, fine ignore me but you will pay one way or another. This is my beach.
On arrival I told him I had no intention to use any of services because of his very bad reputation. What I did was that I always asked another guy for a chair and soon it became easy to tell him, or anyone in his punk-ass crew, that I had "a deal" with another tout that I was to respect.
I don't think the fucking guy gets anything from the freelance girls that come to the public beach for a few days, even if they are seen leaving with a gringo. Anyway, to be 100% sure and to keep Tony dealing in scrubby 1000 and 2000 notes, here's what you do: get the girls' telephone numbers and have them coming to your place later on.
I speak Spanish very well, so I avoid him. My problem is that he is counterproductive. Meaning he will extort any freelance girls that do a deal with you on the beach. It's basically, fine ignore me but you will pay one way or another. This is my beach.
Mojo Bandit
05-26-13, 01:52
novia showed up night before last from medellin. the beach was kind of dead. ran into locogringo in the small olympica. exchanged some info and laughs i haven't seen him in while. thanks for the lift. 1800 was the exchange rate in centro. buddy was leaving for the usa today so he took us out on his boat parasailing and to a remote beach at isla terre on south side of the rosario islands. went to isla the cholon later had lobster and shrimp for 40k pesos. novia did some snorkling near there. owner of the apartment i am staying in called he was making us up a dinner so we headed back for a fine meal.damn hillbilly, i need your life in colombia! parasailing, private cruise to islands. paisan novia flying in from medellin, shrimp and lobster for $20, owner of apartment waiting with dinner? when i am there i am scraping together eggs and arepas in my apartment. just kidding, i have to say that cartagena has some great restaurants, and some great chicas. but it sounds like a great time your having!
For everyone that chooses Cartagena over Medellin, my question is why?
I'm looking to plan my first trip to Colombia and I'm deciding between Medellin and Cartagena. What are the pros and cons for both?
Ricardo Torres
05-26-13, 08:03
For everyone that chooses Cartagena over Medellin, my question is why?
I'm looking to plan my first trip to Colombia and I'm deciding between Medellin and Cartagena. What are the pros and cons for both?Cartagena:
You have the beach and better nightlife, but double or triple the cost of Medellin on almost everything. Very expensive place for a first time visitor.
Medellin:
Casas and more opportunity for day time action because of the casas. Also better suited for the budget traveler or for a person with little or no spanish speaking ability, as you can stay at the Mansion or whatever it is called these days with other gringos who can show you around. Also has a great transportation system for getting around.
Reviewing your posting history over the past 3 weeks you have posted in various threads that you are going to Brazil, Dominican Republic, Curacao, and now Cartagena or Medellin but have little money. LOL I will however bite and answer your question.
Cartagena:
You have the beach and better nightlife, but double or triple the cost of Medellin on almost everything. Very expensive place for a first time visitor.
Medellin:
Casas and more opportunity for day time action because of the casas. Also better suited for the budget traveler or for a person with little or no spanish speaking ability, as you can stay at the Mansion or whatever it is called these days with other gringos who can show you around. Also has a great transportation system for getting around.Haha, I couldn't decide where to go but I've narrowed it down to Colombia, Brazil, or Panama City. How do the girls compare in Cartagena to Medellin? I hear girls from all over the country go there including ones from Medellin. So I would assume a bigger variety in Cartagena.
I guess I feel better about Cartagena because its more touristy and I don't know much about the casas in Medellin. But I always hear people raving about how great Medellin is.
For everyone that chooses Cartagena over Medellin, my question is why?
I'm looking to plan my first trip to Colombia and I'm deciding between Medellin and Cartagena. What are the pros and cons for both?UNfortunately and easy answer. Next time I travel in the South American direction I will be travelling with the Mrs (Colombiana) and SHE wants to go to the beach. Opportunities for me will be very limited. Personally I want to go back to Thailand.
Gali
Ricardo Torres
05-27-13, 00:41
Haha, I couldn't decide where to go but I've narrowed it down to Colombia, Brazil, or Panama City. How do the girls compare in Cartagena to Medellin? I hear girls from all over the country go there including ones from Medellin. So I would assume a bigger variety in Cartagena.
I guess I feel better about Cartagena because its more touristy and I don't know much about the casas in Medellin. But I always hear people raving about how great Medellin is.As you say you are on a budget so I would highly recommend Medellin and staying at the Mansion, as Cartagena is very very expensive if you like to party, and do not know the lay of the land. Whatever you can find in Cartagena you can find in Medellin. As I wrote in my previous post Cartagena has a dirty beach and filthy ocean waters, but it is still a beach that can be fun, and Cartagena offers a great nightlife, but it is very expensive.
CartaAngel
05-28-13, 20:07
Joe Shmoe, respecting all opinions from anyone on this board, I don't think Cartagena beaches are filthy otherwise it wouldn't be the most wanted destination by Colombian people in general when vacation time is on. The beaches don't look as nice as the bahamas' but you can be sure they are clean, the water is not crystaline because of all the boats and jetskiies coming to shore and stirring up the sand from the bottom with thier propellers.
2 things you have to consider: if you are looking for a quality vacation you may want to choose CTG, it is very charming, safer, full of history and if you deal with the right people you can have an unforgettable time without spending a whole lot of money, you get more variety in CTG.
About Medellin, it is a lovely city with a nice weather but it offers tourists a different experience, if you are strictly looking for pussy Medellin is the right choice but after you are jaded of that, what else can you do, you should do both cities and then judge them for youself, Saludos.
Manizales911
05-28-13, 23:54
Joe Shmoe, respecting all opinions from anyone on this board, I don't think Cartagena beaches are filthy otherwise it wouldn't be the most wanted destination by Colombian people in general when vacation time is on. The beaches don't look as nice as the bahamas' but you can be sure they are clean, the water is not crystaline because of all the boats and jetskiies coming to shore and stirring up the sand from the bottom with thier propellers.
2 things you have to consider: if you are looking for a quality vacation you may want to choose CTG, it is very charming, safer, full of history and if you deal with the right people you can have an unforgettable time without spending a whole lot of money, you get more variety in CTG.I love Cartagena and I love to hang on the beach there but make no mistake, the water is filthy and it is NOT from boats, it is from all the sewerage dumped into the water.
Legal Tender
05-29-13, 01:00
UNfortunately and easy answer. Next time I travel in the South American direction I will be travelling with the Mrs (Colombiana) and SHE wants to go to the beach. Opportunities for me will be very limited. Personally I want to go back to Thailand.
GaliI suggest San Andres. It's beautiful, clean. You'll love it.
Nino Bravo
05-29-13, 01:23
The beaches don't look as nice as the bahamas' but you can be sure they are clean, the water is not crystaline because of all the boats and jetskiies coming to shore and stirring up the sand from the bottom with thier propellers.Probably one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read on the internet, let alone this forum.
Always Randy
05-29-13, 04:42
For everyone that chooses Cartagena over Medellin, my question is why?
I'm looking to plan my first trip to Colombia and I'm deciding between Medellin and Cartagena. What are the pros and cons for both?If you can swing it, do both. My buddy and I did that in January as we were in Cartagena for two weeks. Got a round trip ticket to Medellin on Avianca for about $100 USD and spent 5 days there. Check online for the best fare based on different days and times.
The price of P, as in p*ssy is about $80 to $150 in Cartagena from LDV for a couple of hours whereas it you can find daytime action in Medellin casas for about $20 to $30 for 30 minutes.
I love Cartagena and I love to hang on the beach there but make no mistake, the water is filthy and it is NOT from boats, it is from all the sewerage dumped into the water.Not to mention the trash on the beaches.
One natural downside is the black sand. Black sand beaches are by nature not that attractive. They also make the water look darker than it is there by adding to the "filth" effect.
CartaAngel
05-29-13, 14:48
HAHAHHAHA, I knew everybody would trip over that one, I did too when I heard it from Tony once at Hollywood beach, LOL, I agree with Vitrea, Cartagena beaches aren't great because of the dark sand, though I have never heard or seen anyone getting sick from swimming in that filthy ocean as I read on here, the one thing we all have to agree is that Colombia is a cool country that offers different experiences depending on where you go and what activities you want to do, I love its people, to me some of the best I've ever encountered
HAHAHHAHA, I knew everybody would trip over that one, I did too when I heard it from Tony once at Hollywood beach, LOL, I agree with Vitrea, Cartagena beaches aren't great because of the dark sand, though I have never heard or seen anyone getting sick from swimming in that filthy ocean as I read on here, the one thing we all have to agree is that Colombia is a cool country that offers different experiences depending on where you go and what activities you want to do, I love its people, to me some of the best I've ever encounteredAmen. I keep telling my friends that it is the people (not just the girls) that keep drawing me back to Colombia but most people that have not experienced the Colombian hospitality find that hard to believe. It is their loss.
Vegas Jeff
05-30-13, 19:53
Joe Shmoe, respecting all opinions from anyone on this board, I don't think Cartagena beaches are filthy otherwise it wouldn't be the most wanted destination by Colombian people in general when vacation time is on.I have only been to Cartagena once for a week and will never return. I found the culture to be aggressive and overrun by locals that are trying to take advantage of the tourists. No meters in cabs or set prices on many things so everything is a negotiation. Eating at a restaurant in the old city I counted 55 people in 1 hour asking me to buy something. How in the world am I supposed to relax? It is hot as hell and beaches are not pretty nor are the girls. I found the scene to be full of professional working girls and for someone who has extended time in Latin America I can't deal with this type of scene. I am sure there are some experienced mongers who know the scene well and are getting good experiences but that place is not for me.
Many Colombians travel to this beach and it is the only beach they have ever seen in their life. They return to their home cities in Colombia with great stories of how beautiful the ocean was. Also, many cruise ships stop in this port. This city probably has a better Gringo infrastructure along with working girls than the other stops on the cruise. I see past all of this to see a city that is way OVERRATED.
Maybe I am way off base but this is my 2 cents.
CartaAngel
05-31-13, 23:30
Vegas Jeff, I see you didn't have a good experience in CTG, I see what you are saying, I know there are a lot of vendors and hustlers that make you want to break out to tell them off when you are walking on either the beach or in the old town, my wingman there in CTG taught me a sentence (ESTOY MONDAO) every time I use it noone wants to deal with me any more because they think I am a broke ass gringo LOL, it basically means I am tapped out, Lmao. I am used to being harrassed by vendors all the time, in Mexico and Jamaica they can be worse, bottom line is: that is typical of any touristic destination.
I go to CTG because of the quality friends I have there, Bocagrande Beaches aren't all that great but they are still fun, when I feel like swimming or scubadiving in a ocean or beach I get on a boat to Rosario islands, that does it for me, the water is so clean and marvellous, thats why I love that small coastal city.
I have had bad experiences in Bogota, Medellin, Cali and pereira, I got robbedtwice in Bogota and once in Medellin, food at restaurants in all these cities mentioned was horribly nasty and not fresh at all, any ways I am going to make a big memorandum out of the bad experiences I had but after getting booty nothing else to do, I did have lots of fun with friends in Medellin, Medellin is good to me my second choice after CTG, whats up with Ferias de las flores, I heard it is a good time of the year to visit Medellin though the prices double, I hope they don't emulate that high season model type that we all know
TheShadow2
06-01-13, 01:55
I have only been to Cartagena once for a week and will never return. I found the culture to be aggressive and overrun by locals that are trying to take advantage of the tourists. No meters in cabs or set prices on many things so everything is a negotiation. Eating at a restaurant in the old city I counted 55 people in 1 hour asking me to buy something. How in the world am I supposed to relax? It is hot as hell and beaches are not pretty nor are the girls. I found the scene to be full of professional working girls and for someone who has extended time in Latin America I can't deal with this type of scene. I am sure there are some experienced mongers who know the scene well and are getting good experiences but that place is not for me.
Many Colombians travel to this beach and it is the only beach they have ever seen in their life. They return to their home cities in Colombia with great stories of how beautiful the ocean was. Also, many cruise ships stop in this port. This city probably has a better Gringo infrastructure along with working girls than the other stops on the cruise. I see past all of this to see a city that is way OVERRATED.
Maybe I am way off base but this is my 2 cents.VJ,
I'm going to guess that the restaurant you tried to eat at was in Plaza Santo Domingo? After you get to know Cartagena, you'll know better than to go there. Obviously can't blame you for going there on your first trip, but experienced travelers avoid it like the plague for that reason. Granted, you will get approached by vendors in Cartagena, but after a while, they really don't bother you. Just a simple "no gracias" and then move on.
You state the scene is full of working girls, but again, where did you go? La Dolce Vita? Elektra? Playa Hollywood? Then yes, all you will encounter are pros. Get off the beaten trail and tourist traps, and there are plenty of hot girls. (Although Medellin and the interior cities are better for this, clearly.)
Cabbies? Yes, they will scam you if you don't know the prices, they consider it a gringo tax. Somebody on here posted a link to the official prices, know what the fare is beforehand and give exactly that to the cabbies. (Sure, you shouldn't have to, but.)
The beach is what it is. Is your glass half empty or half full? For me it's a great place to kill a day with friends sipping cold beers, listening to music, and looking at the ocean and the chicas. Beats the hell out of work.
Oh and I'll go out on a limb here, and state with certainty that the water is not dirty or polluted. Get away from the beach and it's actually clear out there. But I'm sure nobody will believe me.
The old city is incredible if you go in the early evening and do some exploring, amazing if you're into old architecture.
Anyway, Cartagena can be a good destination, it sounds like you might just need another trip or two to get dialed in.
I will give you my quick report, overall I had a good time in Cartagena these are things that might help you plan your trip.
I am no expert this was my first trip.
I do not speak Spanish but Google Translate did help (download the pack before you leave, voice translate only works with Wi-Fi)
I stayed in El Laguito and not in Centro or in the hostel district. Carry a copy of your passport, although I never was stopped.
Money: You will get ripped off if you change at the airport money exchange after you pick up your bags, they charge you like $10 per $100.
Go to an ATM in town. Mostly you can only take at 150, 000 at a time but I saw higher in Centro.
Exchange rate: 1900 = $10, therefore 50, 000 = $26, just half everything.
Taxis: it is always 6, 000. Tell the driver it is 6, 000 before you even get in. This price is still higher than what locals pay.
20, 000 to the airport.
Mobile phone: bring a cheap one with you and buy a chip, you can pay someone to get you this but you will pay double for the convenience $50US.
You can get card topped up at most internet cafes. Girl's text a lot but they always run out of minutes or say they do. They will borrow your phone to make calls on your minutes.
A blackberry might work well for BBM as mostly that's what I saw they were using. The girls live on their mobiles, charging the phone and constant messaging is non-stop.
When you leave you will be one of the 100's of gringos messaging these beautiful creatures.
Food: the food is ok, not great. You can get pizza, fish and beef at local grill type restaurants. If you go into Centro you can go to high end restaurants.
And pay up to $200US a person if you wish. Usually a coffee and a sandwich will run you $9US.
Drinks: you can pay $1. 50US for a beer on the beach or in a bar or go to places like Cafe del Mar and Cafe Havana and pay $10US for a mojito.
One thing about drinking in Cartagena, I could not find a single place where it is a social pub type place to hang out.
The drinking culture is about Latin music and in groups of friends, not a place where you go alone and mingle. If you do mingle with girls you can.
Almost guarantee the girls are pay for play.
Girls.
The street: I never did this, the reports here say go to the clock tower at dusk, but with so many police about I wasn't interested.
The malls: lots of pretty girls at the mall but without Spanish you will be struggling.
The beach: I never did this but saw some on the beach that were average, one was nice.
The discotheque: I didn't go to LDV etc. As these didn't get going until after 11pm and I was going elsewhere.
The brothels: I didn't go to any.
When having girls over to your hotel go directly to your safe and put all cash, watch, credit cards, passport and mobile phone away.
If you texted one girl to come over they may bring a friend. You can be clear and say this isn't what you had in mind and one will leave. If you have both stay but only get busy with one.
The other will expect a few $$ for waiting around in your hotel. The girls are completely familiar with the group situation, may have boyfriends and will stay in bed or shower while you are busy with the other girl.
Wingman: The contact I made before going did bring very good looking girls directly to my hotel. I will go into detail of what to expect from this experience.
This is a business; do not think for a minute that you are special or that the wingman will give you special treatment. If another client is paying more or there is a.
Group of guys paying more, your calls will not get returned until the next day.
When girls are dropped off, there is not a set tip for the wingman and tips of 50, 000 are expected.
The girl usually lives at home or has a child and will be reluctant to stay overnight without planning that beforehand. If they do stay overnight, they may expect to leave at.
5 Am. Without going into my personal experience, and guys here will disagree, you can expect 150, 000 for a couple of hours and 300, 000 from say 10pm-5am.
I would suggest that if you meet a group of girls apart from the wingman; keep these in your back pocket for when the wingman falls through.
Lastly I would say, Centro is a beautiful place, quite small, you can expect to discover it within 3 days. The streets are dusty and untidy but the people are good natured, they are only trying to earn a living like all of us.
You can book a day trip to the islands where the water is clear blue.
Expect to pay double for a boat trip if you go through a contact and check if booze is included to clear up any disappointment.
Cartagena can be a party place if you have a group of friends with you or to visit. It can be very high end or backpacker, hostel.
Like me, you will meet some of the most beautiful women on this planet. They will make you feel young and alive. Try to keep in mind that this is a fantasy and a vacation.
And enjoy it for what it is. It's only natural to think of how you can make this experience eternal and how you could spend all of your life with this one beautiful girl.
The reality is that while you are seeing her she has probably been with many men that week or even day. She has many guys texting her and promising a better life.
Perhaps she doesn't want a better life; she has a family and a country she loves. She's able to buy the things she needs and look sexy and fashionable, probably gifts from a guys just like you.
Try to think with the big head but good luck to you if you find the needle in the haystack. More interesting stories I found on this topic at colombiahelp dot com.
Se fuerte mis amigos.
CartaAngel
06-06-13, 03:10
Rockit66, Great report, can you share some pics of the girls you had? Pm me if you like, Who was your wingman, he must've done a good job so that you would not need to visit the casas or LDV
Mambomasden
06-06-13, 08:49
Gents,
Have travel to Cartagena booked for August. Question (s) are:
I'm staying at one of the nicer hotels, which I imagine to not be chica friendly in north San Diego portion of the old city. While this is my first COl. Trip, I, ve had my stripes earned (in some cases literally!) in northern Mex, Brazil, Uraguay. So, questions:
- Easiest options for taking girls in near El Centro / San Diego for hourly options (preferably not to skanky)
-is LDV not ideal place to break to get my "toes" wet? I am hoping for the true GFE experience.
-any experience taking GFE types to Islas Rosarias? That would be great IMHO if logistics work and gals willing.
- In Brazil, bringing Victorias Secret body creams as impromptu gifts worked for me. Does same apply in Colombia?
- Hoping to accompany other fellows in Cartagena while in country. Local pub to meet blokes to wing with? I speak spanish w / touch of carribean accent
Cheers,
Picture of a girl I meet in Cartagena.
Gents,
Have travel to Cartagena booked for August. Question (s) are:
I'm staying at one of the nicer hotels, which I imagine to not be chica friendly in north San Diego portion of the old city. While this is my first COl. Trip, I, ve had my stripes earned (in some cases literally!) in northern Mex, Brazil, Uraguay... Mambomasden,
See my last posting which answers some of your questions.
_ LDV, I don't think you will find a GFE here, as in they might be back there the next night.
- Gifts will be accepted but they are not overly impressed with them unless it's gold.
- Yes girls will go on a day trip to the islands, careful of them setting up other clients when they are out of sight.
- Like I said there are not many places to hang out, drink and meet other mongers except maybe the beach. Nightlife is groups of friends or backpackers in hostels.
You can find it quite lonely when not with your girl.
CartAngel. I wouldn't post or pm photos of girls without their permission.
Black Page
06-09-13, 22:27
Have travel to Cartagena booked for August. Question (s) are:August is the worst month to go there. Very crowded, especially single men from Italy, Israel, etc, because it's the holiday month there.
- Easiest options for taking girls in near El Centro / San Diego for hourly options (preferably not to skanky)A perfect place is the hotel which was called Sol de las Indias, now I don't remember. 1 block from Elektra going to the Reloj.
If you want invest more time and money, the motels Jaiba, Cangrejo, Dunas at Crespo. Find some of my old reports for details.
-is LDV not ideal place to break to get my "toes" wet? I am hoping for the true GFE experience.GFE in LDV? That's a contradiction of terms. Impossible.
- Hoping to accompany other fellows in Cartagena while in country. Local pub to meet blokes to wing with? I speak spanish w / touch of carribean accentWhy to waste your time in that way? Hunt alone and focus on girls. Go to bars and discos and look around. Plenty of regulars not in the business, if you want to stay away from P4P.
August is the worst month to go there. Very crowded, especially single men from Italy, Israel, etc, because it's the holiday month there.What do you consider the best month? I am considering November.
AlwaysHorny 2
06-12-13, 19:59
The airfare is crazy for December. I'm trying to book my trip now. In some cases it is more expensive than Brazil. What gives? It is almost double from a few years ago. I should have long bypassed Sosua, but now the economics are out of control when you factor in the higher prices for everything else. I'm planning my Brazil trip at the beginning of March, so I can't bump that.
This will be my first trip to Colombia. I'm really excited to go somewhere new. I don't think I will be comfortable in Medellin since my Spanish is limited. I had a hard time in Barcelona when trying to talk to regular chics, so I know it will be difficult there and I'm not a big fan of casas.
This sucks. I envy guys that live near the hubs. These Midwest flights are a beatch!
Joey Smith
06-13-13, 01:21
The airfare is crazy for December. I'm trying to book my trip now. In some cases it is more expensive than Brazil. What gives? It is almost double from a few years ago. I should have long bypassed Sosua, but now the economics are out of control when you factor in the higher prices for everything else. I'm planning my Brazil trip at the beginning of March, so I can't bump that...If you have the time and desire. Try flying into Bogota and then taking a short hop to Cartagena. Bogota prices tend to be a little cheaper and numerous connections directly into Cartagena.
I fly directly from Miami to Cartagena and the Avianca option is usually not cheap. Jet Blue is slowly adding flights to Colombia. Another option.
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