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OK, I haven't been to Cartagena in 4 years so should probably keep my mouth shut. However, no GFE at LDV? That was an incredibly easy place to wife up. It's a freelancer hangout, so there are no big barfines to pay to get your date out of the establishment, and she probably hasn't already had 5 or 10 penises shoved up her snatch that night. A lot of the women were from other cities and didn't have family in Cartagena. So finding ones that would do overnighters, hang around the next day, go out on dates or day trips wasn't problematic. It wasn't unusual for my date to want to camp out in my apartment. I felt like Charlie Sheen, I was paying them to leave.
Maybe part of the difference of opinion involves cost and how attractive the women are. Some of the women in LDV used to be (and I assume still are) very attractive. And they weren't cheap by Colombian standards, unless you compare to high end clubs in Bogota. Yeah, if you're looking for GFE for 30,000 to 100,000 pesos from a 5 or a 6, LDV isn't the place to go. There are other places in other cities that are much better.
Cartagring0
06-17-13, 14:45
What do you consider the best month? I am considering November.November is really expensive in Cartagena because of miss Colombia and miss Cartagena take place in November. I am assuming it is the same this year as it was in year's past.
Da Kine Kid
06-22-13, 19:21
I'll be traveling to Cartagena later this summer and am hoping to explore all the options available. This will be my second time there. On my first trip, I hit up LDV and honestly thought it had the hottest chicas and most variety of anywhere in Colombia (maybe I just hit it on a really good night) , and I've been to Medellin a couple times before.
I'm curious to take a look at the other scenes out there though and was looking for some input. In reading the board recently, it sounds like Pleyboy is a good option as far as strip clubs, scoping out around the Clock tower is good for street scene, and Playa Blanca is hit or miss as far as girls walking the beach looking for customers.
Does anyone have any other good current comprehensive info regarding the street scene, clubs like LDV, or casas? It doesn't sound like casas are a big thing in Cartagena, but I ran into this info elsewhere. The info is a couple years old, so wondering if it is still current.
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Casas / Brothels. It is hard to get addresses; everyone says the Taxi driver will know.
All these areas below outside of El Centro are not safe to walk around in. Always use a taxi driver that you know and have him wait.
Bruselas
1. Rosario House, (House Dew Drill) (Casa de Rocio) , Calle Benjamin Herrera # 24-34 (Transversal 42).15-20 Chicas. Prices: Rooms US$25, Chica US$50-75 60 mins. Takeout Fee 200k, Chica 200-400k TLN, condoms US$10. Tel: 662 0057. Hours: 24/7.
El Bosque.
1. Corronchas, tell the taxi driver it's in front of "Suprema".20 Chicas. Prices: Beer 2k, Room fee 35k, Chica 70k 90 min. Hours: 8pm to __.
El Refugio.
1. Inter Club, Av. Transversal 49, Calle #20-100. 15 Chicas. Prices: US$75-100, Takeout Fee US$40. Tel: 310 706 8954, 313 551 4165, 313 502 9573. Hours: 24/7.
Nuevo Campestre
1. El Paraiso del Marino, Carrera 56 # 56B 51 at Calle 10. This club is about 25 minutes by car. 5-10 Chicas. Prices: 60k Room Fee. 160k 60 min, exit fee 130k, Chica 200k. Hours: 9-10pm to ___.
www.paraisodelmarino.com
Strip Clubs / Brothels.
El Centro.
1. Isis, Carrera 5 # 33-10, on the corner of Calle Cochera del Gobernador, a block away from Donde Fidel.
12-15 Chicas. Prices: Beer 7k, Rum and Coke 15k, House fee 100k, Chicas 250+k hour. 250+ TLN. Tel: 660 1506. Hours: Best time 9pm to 4am.
El Refugio.
1. Isis Pley Club / Boy (Disco, sort of) , Avenida El Bosque Diagonal 21 #48-04 (Transversal 48).20-25+ Chicas. Prices: Taxi 15k, Beer 7k, Chicas 150k 20 min. 170k 40 min. 250k TLN. Tel: (57) 5-662-0717. Hours: Officially 11:30pm to 5-6am, but you can get in earlier.
http://pleyclub.com/
Bruselas
1. Angeles Club, Avenida Crisanto Luque, Diagonal 22 #38-69 (fruente a multiamperio).10-20 Chicas. Prices: Room 50k, Chica $40-50 30 min, Takeout fee 150k, Chica $100-150. Hours: 9pm to ________.
Alto Bosque.
1. Liquezos Club, In Front of the Purina Dog food plant, Av. El Bosque, (Transversal 54).15-25 Chicas. Prices: 150k, Take Out 350k. Tel: 310 733 8800. Hours: 8pm to 3am.
Bomba Esso, El Amparo Transversal 53 near Calle 31B (Close to the Esso Gas Station, past La Castellana, Near Barrio Santa Lucia)
These places are cheap because the chicas are not the best looking. Do not go alone! Take a Guide with You!
1. Strip Club Chica Linda Night Club, Av El Bosque, El Amparo. 15-20 Chicas. Prices: Taxi 15k, Cover 10k. 80k chica + 30k room fee 30 min, take out $90-100, $50 takeout barfee. Tel: _______. Hours: 8pm to ___.
2. Chica Rica Bar Show, Av El Bosque, El Amparo. _ Chicas. Prices: ___k 30 min. Tel: _______. Hours: 8pm to _____.
3. Bar Cachique, Av El Bosque, El Amparo. 12-20 Chicas. Prices: $45-50, $15 house, Chica takeout $100, $50 barfee. Tel: _______. Hours: 8pm to ___.
4. Bar Citara, Av El Bosque, El Amparo. 12 Chicas. Prices: ___k 30 min. Tel: _______. Hours: 8pm to _____.
Street Action.
1. El Laguito and Bocagrande, around LDV. Prices: 50-80k.
2. Along Avenida San Martin.
There are a few on the corner of San Martin (Carrera 2) and Calle 5a, across the street from the short time Hotel El Pueblito. They are asking between 80k-100k. If you hang at the Café Arepas Pues a few chicas will walk by.
This café seems like it could be a good monger meeting place.
A few chicas in front of the Casino Rio, San Martin and Calle 6.
3. Plaza de los Dulces around the Clock Tower in El Centro (Old City) late night. Prices: 50-80k.
4. In front of Bar California, on the other side of the Clock Tower, outside the walls, past the gardens, where Calle Media Luna begins (Getsemani). And along the Calle there are more. In the day time, they are in the garden. Sometimes, they move to the streets close by.
Mojo Bandit
06-23-13, 02:01
[QUOTE=the Kine Kid; 1437381]I'll be traveling to Cartagena later this summer and am hoping to explore all the options available. This will be my second time there. On my first trip, I hit up LDV and honestly thought it had the hottest chicas and most variety of anywhere in Colombia (maybe I just hit it on a really good night) , and I've been to Medellin a couple times before.
I'm curious to take a look at the other scenes out there though and was looking for some input. In reading the board recently, it sounds like Pleyboy is a good option as far as strip clubs, scoping out around the Clock tower is good for street scene, and Playa Blanca is hit or miss as far as girls walking the beach looking for customers.
Does anyone have any other good current comprehensive info regarding the street scene, clubs like LDV, or casas? It doesn't sound like casas are a big thing in Cartagena, but I ran into this info elsewhere. The info is a couple years old, so wondering if it is still current.
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The Kine Kid, hey brother Hillbilly69 has a google map of everything in Cartagena, from casas to street walking areas to the clubs like LDV and Electra where the freelancers go. To practical things like cheap hotels. Good eats and where to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) at the beach. Go to Forum. Colombia- Cartagena Lists. It is currently six post down. Click on the google map link. An awesome resource for Cartagena. Thank Hillbilly69
Da Kine Kid
06-23-13, 05:53
Awesome man, thanks for the heads up!
[QUOTE=the Kine Kid; 1437381]I'll be traveling to Cartagena later this summer and am hoping to explore all the options available. This will be my second time there. On my first trip, I hit up LDV and honestly thought it had the hottest chicas and most variety of anywhere in Colombia (maybe I just hit it on a really good night) , and I've been to Medellin a couple times before.
I'm curious to take a look at the other scenes out there though and was looking for some input. In reading the board recently, it sounds like Pleyboy is a good option as far as strip clubs, scoping out around the Clock tower is good for street scene, and Playa Blanca is hit or miss as far as girls walking the beach looking for customers.
Does anyone have any other good current comprehensive info regarding the street scene, clubs like LDV, or casas? It doesn't sound like casas are a big thing in Cartagena, but I ran into this info elsewhere. The info is a couple years old, so wondering if it is still current.
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The Kine Kid, hey brother Hillbilly69 has a google map of everything in Cartagena, from casas to street walking areas to the clubs like LDV and Electra where the freelancers go. To practical things like cheap hotels. Good eats and where to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) at the beach. Go to Forum. Colombia- Cartagena Lists. It is currently six post down. Click on the google map link. An awesome resource for Cartagena. Thank Hillbilly69
Glad to see Claudia is still looking good!
Picture of a girl I meet in Cartagena.
Mambomasden
06-28-13, 18:59
August is the worst month to go there. Very crowded, especially single men from Italy, Israel, etc, because it's the holiday month there.
A perfect place is the hotel which was called Sol de las Indias, now I don't remember. 1 block from Elektra going to the Reloj.
If you want invest more time and money, the motels Jaiba, Cangrejo, Dunas at Crespo. Find some of my old reports for details.
GFE in LDV? That's a contradiction of terms. Impossible.
Why to waste your time in that way? Hunt alone and focus on girls. Go to bars and discos and look around. Plenty of regulars not in the business, if you want to stay away from P4P.I'll definitely will try that, and the regulars sound good. I do kinda have a bar. See attached pic. Going to the more remote locations away from the tourist area it would be good to have someone to go with who knows the ropes.
I'm hoping this August is not a as bad as that. From hotel perspective, it looked fairly open. Maybe I can mingle with the guys from Israel. L'chaim.
Thanks for feedback and advice!
Any one going to be down in Cartagena July2-5? Also have the house fees gone up? Are the girls staying the whole night?
Thanks!
CartaAngel
07-02-13, 04:54
[QUOTE=Toppay; wish I were going to CTG now to join you on the casas adventure, please avail yourself of the map given in this forum it is very useful and tell us how you did, if you don't feel comfortable going to the other side of ctg alone where there is a bunch of casas, you need a good tour guide; I recommend Fabio the wingman, but you should be fine, I heard that at one of the casas way too far out of ctg, there is a chica that looks like Alicia Silverstone from clueless the movie in her best years.
I have heard that in Cartagena you don't necessarily have to go to a nightclub to find "chicas"; does anybody know the names of bars or hotels where girls hang out to meet their clients? Probably in the old city? Does this happen to be true in Cafe del Mar, and does it still exist? I'm planning to be there in the near future.
Lancealot1
07-02-13, 15:05
Any one going to be down in Cartagena July2-5? Also have the house fees gone up? Are the girls staying the whole night?
Thanks!Hey Toppay. I tried to send you a PM but you don't have that capability. I am in Cartagena during your timing and could use a wingman.
Interesting new rule at LDV: You must spend at least 100, 000 COP to take out the lady. So before I believe it was minimum 2 drinks with the lady. I had a beer 10k, the lady 2 margaritas at 20k each, total of 50k was not enough. She ordered another margarita me a Cuba libre, it was a little annoying. Why don't they just take a bar fine to make it easier? She told me it was the new rule set by Aldo (I think that is the owner?)
Interesting new rule at LDV: You must spend at least 100, 000 COP to take out the lady. So before I believe it was minimum 2 drinks with the lady. I had a beer 10k, the lady 2 margaritas at 20k each, total of 50k was not enough. She ordered another margarita me a Cuba libre, it was a little annoying. Why don't they just take a bar fine to make it easier? She told me it was the new rule set by Aldo (I think that is the owner?)There is no salida at LDV. LDV is a bar and not a cat house. There may me only an entrance fee or minimum consumption fee. Whoever gets in there solo and spends this kind of cash to take out a girl from inside and not from outside of LDV is a MORON the kind mentioned here:
Osbourne Cox: You're in league with that moronic woman. You are part of a league of morons.
Ted Treffon: No. No.
Osbourne Cox: Oh, yes. You see, you're one of the morons I've been fighting my whole life. My whole fucking life. But guess what. Today, I win.
[gun shot]
Mojo Bandit
07-03-13, 07:33
I have heard that in Cartagena you don't necessarily have to go to a nightclub to find "chicas"; does anybody know the names of bars or hotels where girls hang out to meet their clients? Probably in the old city? Does this happen to be true in Cafe del Mar, and does it still exist? I'm planning to be there in the near future.There are working girls all over the tourist parts of Cartagena, just not heavily concentrated one one spot like electra or LDV or Hollywood beach or. Er. Uh Playa Hollywood (yes these are the hotspots for freelancers, but you will see them in the Plazas, the Plaza Santa Domingo, the Plaza de Los Coches, walking the streets in the old city, and yes. Cafe Del Mar. You can usually spot semi or pro chicas because they dress a little nicer and a little more prevocative than Colombianas that just out for stroll, and if she is dressed nice and she gives your gringo ass a smile. Definately a working girl.
Now I just posted this a few post back so I must give you the traditional scolding for not reading the Boards. Read the boards. In between all the meaningless (meaningless to you) conversations on this board there is a wealth of information. But just this once I am going to make like a leprechaun and lead you to a pot of Gold. Go to the top of the posts and look at your page you are now on, scroll toward the top and just when the page turns whitish grey you see a series of links. Forum South America Colombia Cartagena Reports Now you want to click on Colombia, when the list of threads comes up, scroll down to Cartagena Lists, Click On This, then scroll down until you see Hillbilly69 as the poster. Inside this post is a link to a map that Hillybilly69 has made of ALL THINGS CARTAGENA. Use it and thank Hillbilly69 when you see one of his posts.
Mojo Bandit
07-03-13, 07:39
Interesting new rule at LDV: You must spend at least 100, 000 COP to take out the lady. So before I believe it was minimum 2 drinks with the lady. I had a beer 10k, the lady 2 margaritas at 20k each, total of 50k was not enough. She ordered another margarita me a Cuba libre, it was a little annoying. Why don't they just take a bar fine to make it easier? She told me it was the new rule set by Aldo (I think that is the owner?)Yes that is just getting greedy, that is like $50 bucks, and it is steep, this will cost them some business from us budget minded mongers who know where to go elsewhere for freelance Chicas, Do you know anything about Electra? Are they doing anything different?
Yes that is just getting greedy, that is like $50 bucks, and it is steep, this will cost them some business from us budget minded mongers who know where to go elsewhere for freelance Chicas, Do you know anything about Electra? Are they doing anything different?I have gone through every post and don't see it nor can I find it by searching his name. Would be very helpful to have it or be directed to it or if possible reposted. Sorry I am an idiot but I tried. Going to Carta green and would appreciate the help.
Hey Toppay. I tried to send you a PM but you don't have that capability. I am in Cartagena during your timing and could use a wingman.Let me know I'm by Laguito by the Hilton shoot me a message let's link up for a drink and go on a hunt.
Mojo Bandit
07-04-13, 05:03
I have gone through every post and don't see it nor can I find it by searching his name. Would be very helpful to have it or be directed to it or if possible reposted. Sorry I am an idiot but I tried. Going to Carta green and would appreciate the help.I am not being a smart ass when I post these same instructions again but I am going to capitalize for emphasis. I think I did a bad job explaining how to find it last time.
At the top of the WHITE part of THIS PAGF YOU ARE CURRENTLY READING you will see something very similar to what follows this sentence next to a HOME PAGE symbol:
Forum > South >America Colombia >Cartagena Reports. (there are arrows between the words but I cant type those arrows)
This signifies that you are in the FORUM, in the SOUTH AMERICA section, in the COLOMBIA Forum of the SOUTH AMERICA section and you are looking at CARTAGENA REPORTS.
Now I am giving you the shortcut to get to the CARTAGENA LISTS (where the link to Hillbilly69's Google map that he edited) reports for the COLOMBIA section of the SOUTH AMERICA section.
You go to the top of the white page you are currently on where you see that string of links;
Forum South America Colombia Cartagena Reports (with arrows in between and a HOME page symbol at the beginning)
It says Cartagena Reports at the end because you are reading Cartagena Reports, but you want to go to Cartagena Lists, so you:
Click on Colombia (which is between South America and Cartagena Reports ) to take you back to The Colombia Forum where all the City and region reports of Colombia are listed, where it lists Bogota Reports, Cartagena Reports, Cali Reports, Medellin Reports etc. All these items are next to images of envelopes (you will see when you get there)
So in that string of Links at the top of the white page you are on, the string of Links that looks similar to this:
Forum South America Colombia Cartagena Reports.
You click you mouse on "Colombia".
This takes you to the "Colombia Forum" where it lists Bogota Reports, Cartagena Reports, Cali Reports, Medellin Reports etc. All next to images of envelopes (you will see when you get there)
Once you are back in the Colombia Forum. Scroll down that list past where it says Bogota Reports, Cartagena Reports, Cali Reports, Medellin Reports etc to the 13th item that says "Cartagena Lists" CLICK ON Cartagena Lists.
Then scroll down and find Hillbilly69's post (it was the sixth post down from the last post it was posted on 4-9-13) , in his post he is talking about a restaurant called Requisimos, but at the bottom of his post is a link to his Map.
It looks like this:
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U.06d2b411420a83
But the link I copy and paste is not a whole link because the post only shows part of it, so when I copy and paste it, it is not "Clickable" (I don't know why)
If you still cannot find it post again, and I will try to explain it better
I tried to click on the link to the map and when it took me to the map I copied the URL from my browser and it looks like this:
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83&dg=feature
So if the moderator does not close this post because it should be in Cartagena lists, just copy and paste this in your browser
Sorry for the bother.
I am not being a smart ass when I post these same instructions again but I am going to capitalize for emphasis. I think I did a bad job explaining how to find it last time.
At the top of the WHITE part of THIS PAGE YOU ARE CURRENTLY READING you will see something very similar to what follows this sentence next to a HOME PAGE symbol:
Forum South America Colombia Cartagena Reports. (there are arrows between the words but I can't type those arrows)...
John Gault
07-04-13, 18:04
Interesting new rule at LDV: You must spend at least 100, 000 COP to take out the lady. So before I believe it was minimum 2 drinks with the lady. I had a beer 10k, the lady 2 margaritas at 20k each, total of 50k was not enough. She ordered another margarita me a Cuba libre, it was a little annoying. Why don't they just take a bar fine to make it easier? She told me it was the new rule set by Aldo (I think that is the owner?)A tried, and true method to beat this kind of BS is just to tell the girl to meet you outside after waiting 10 minutes.
Sounds to me old Aldo is getting to big for his britches.
Mojo Bandit
07-04-13, 18:57
A tried, and true method to beat this kind of BS is just to tell the girl to meet you outside after waiting 10 minutes.
Sounds to me old Aldo is getting to big for his britches.I was wondering if this would work. So thanks for confirming that it would. On other occasions I have just hung out outside and caught a girl getting out of taxi, but that would require a lot of hanging out on the steps etc.
A little bit more detail to show how fucked up this new rule is, this happened to me twice:
I talk to a girl and ask her to join me at my table, it's like 1am or so. Girl orders a drink, like a Margarita. After 30 minutes or so of chit chatting I ask her if we should leave, and she tells me she needs to order 2 more drinks, per Aldo. She orders another Margarita, drinks it in a rush in a few minutes and orders another one, dirnks that one also in a few minutes so we can go. This happened to me with 2 girls. I like it when they get drunk, but in both cases the girls couldn't handle it and got too drunk to fast. First girl recovered after a little, so it was ok. Second girl, after an hour or so puked right onto my floor, she was very sorry and cleand up. The first girl gave me her number and I called her bypassing LDV completely, she came straight to my place.
I usually sit down at LDV and order a bottle of Rum and enjoy the night, the chica scene, and I am not a cheapo. No problem spending 100 COP, but I won't take this nonsense rule anymore, next time, when I am ready to leave, the girl can meet me outside after 10 minutes or so, or find herself another dude, I am not that desperate, there are plenty of other chicas in CTG to have. May be LDV should just require a bar fine of 50ok COP or so.
CartaAngel
07-05-13, 02:55
A little bit more detail to show how fucked up this new rule is, this happened to me twice:
LDV should just require a bar fine of 50ok COP or so.I agree with you 100 % Fun Pete, check this out: I had a friend there who lives in Laguito investigate about that ridiculous new LDV policy and he told me that they would not charge a bar fine since the disco LDV was incorporated as a regular disco in Cartagena, the minute they charge that bar fine LDV will stop being a regular disco and immidiately become a working girl house, will that cause Aldo problems? Who knows? That is also why Tu candela disco won't let single females or girls they know very well whom sell booty get in the bar just to hook up with single males in there, however, the best way to go about it without making us all feel ripped off at LDV, it is to require a 10 dollar cover charge or whatever, and then who cares whether we buy a drink or not, at least we can choose and might feel like spending a lot money on drinks if we ain't obligated to buy drinks, ain't that right?
On the other hand, Aldo tells the girls the house needs to make money I understand that and thats why that rule was carried out but I don't think that hidden 100k minimum liquor consumption is fair, I am not a heavy drinker and don't mind buying the girls a drink, but I hate feeling obligated to buy drinks I won't have just to get a ***** out of there, I'd rather spend that money on more pussy myself LOL.
I wanted to check out Electra and went at 3am. The staff was very unfriendly, kind of desperate, right away they asked me about ordering a drink. First Cuba Libre had no rum in it, I think they just forgot to add it. Half hour later I am standing by the door and the dude at the door tells me I need to consume drinks. I told him I just finished a Cuba Libre. Then I went to the bar and made sure my next Cuba Libre had some rum in it! 15, 000 COP per drink, a small drink (you can buy a 375ml bottle of Medellin rum for 15, 000 COP)! They are getting desperate I guess not having to close again. Quite a few women, but lots of trash, I. E. Left overs who couldn't find a dude, and probably some girls trying to get a second dude. Also, many of the dudes were pretty drunk and quite aggravated for whatever reason (may be on other drugs). Usually I like to enjoy the music a little at Electra, but the place was just not my kind of place, so I left after an hour or so.
Tu Candela I really enjoyed the atmosphere and music. They had a handful working girls, very obvious to spot, they usually hang around the bar and will easily make eye contact. In fact two of them arrived at the door and kissed the dude at the door, so they were regulars. I was too tired from the previous night, just wanted to enjoy a few drinks and good Colombian music. Now this is the funny part: Many tourists also hang out at Tu Candela, and there was these two quite handsome dudes who hit at these two working girls, one of the girls quite good looking. Obviously, it was very easy to make contact with the girls; shortly after a big bottle of rum was ordered, and not too long after the dudes were dancing with the girls, holding hands, etc. The dudes looked very happy as they were sure they were going to score. Later on I saw them separated and the dudes did not look that happy anymore, I guess they found out there was a price to be paid. So even when you are good looking, the chicas will only go with you if you pay them or have some kind of benefit. If they want to screw around and have fun, they will do it with the locals.
Lancealot1
07-05-13, 19:32
Hey Fellas. Thought I'd post a quick first timers report of LDV from last night. I've read a lot of this forum lately and it seems like a lot of people post things like "LDV. We ALL know about that place" and then move on. I had a great, if slightly expensive (by regular board members standards) , time having some drinks in a pretty low pressure environment. I really liked the place and its an incredibly soft landing for a first timer to Cartagena.
Scene.
You walk up to this place and you'll immediately get a strip club vibe. There are doormen and a handful of hot women smoking cigs outside at all times. For a milli second it can be a little intimidating to go inside, but the scene is actually really really chill. The club doesn't get going till about 10 (really more like 11). Drinks tend to be pretty pricy but as other board memebers mentioned, you'll need to break the 100 COP barrier to take a girl out. Frankly, as a dude that came to party, I didn't find this to be a problem until I was back at the notel with the girl (more on this below). The girls will very rarely approach you unless you make eye contact and signal or go over and talk to them. I prefered this as it allow me to scope out the scene and see what I was dealing with. There is some dancing, but the night I was there, it was mostly for the girls to show off their bods and moves.
Girls.
The ratio of guys to girls here is crazy. There is maybe a 10 to 1 ratio of girls to guys at any time. Personally, I was paralized by the number of options and found it hard to settle on one. As a gringo that speaks almost no Spanish, I found it pretty difficult to converse with some of the girls. I spent a fair amount of time finding a girl that spoke even a little english and was willing to put in the effort to have an uggo conversation with me. For me that was preferable than silently hanging out with the hotest girl in the bar and building zero chemistry.
Negotiation note.
I get it. I don't speak Spanish and it was my first time, but the girl I ended up with quoted me 300 american at first. I gave the the WHAT? Face and said, you must be talking pesos right? We ended up at 300 pesos for three hours (I know that's expensive. Whatever). It seemed like a lot of the tourists were getting quotes in dollars, which I advised them all to ignore. Thanks to reading this board! I retrospect I probably could have battered her down to 200, that would have ruined a bit of the chemistry we had I think. 250 is probably the happy medium I should have gotten.
Extra Info.
The 100 COP problem didn't truely manifest itself until I brought the girl back to the pad. Like another poster mentioned my girl was really drunk. She probably weighed 82 pounds. We had a GREAT time for like one hour 30 and then she got really tired and slept for the rest. I don't blame her even a little here. Does anyone know if the rule is that the girl needs to have 2 drinks or the punter has to spend 100? I had spent 100 by then, but I don't think the girl knew it and was pretty insistent on another drink.
Mojo Bandit
07-06-13, 01:32
Does Anyone Know Anything About Fragma? It Is Listed On Hillybilly69's Map But All It Says Is "High End Chicas".
Does Anyone Know Any Details?
Tu Candela I really enjoyed the atmosphere and music. They had a handful working girls, very obvious to spot, they usually hang around the bar and will easily make eye contact. In fact two of them arrived at the door and kissed the dude at the door, so they were regulars. I was too tired from the previous night, just wanted to enjoy a few drinks and good Colombian music. Now this is the funny part: Many tourists also hang out at Tu Candela, and there was these two quite handsome dudes who hit at these two working girls, one of the girls quite good looking. Obviously, it was very easy to make contact with the girls; shortly after a big bottle of rum was ordered, and not too long after the dudes were dancing with the girls, holding hands, etc. The dudes looked very happy as they were sure they were going to score. Later on I saw them separated and the dudes did not look that happy anymore, I guess they found out there was a price to be paid. So even when you are good looking, the chicas will only go with you if you pay them or have some kind of benefit. If they want to screw around and have fun, they will do it with the locals.So your going to make a sweeping generalization / statement from 1 observation?
I am young and good looking and have pulled working girls for free all over Latin America and South East Asia.
Granted it doesn't work everytime, but it certainly happens from time to time.
And generally speaking Latin women prefer white men over local men (attractiveness).
You put a blonde haired blue eyed 25 year old stud next to a comparable local the blonde hair blue eyed dude will win that battle almost every time.
This is the complete opposite of a place like Korea where the women prefer local guys.
Most people are attracted to the exotic look or the unknown as the local features get bland and seem normal and repetitive after awhile.
Thanks for the updates Fun Pete. It looks like Cartagena is continuing to change. It is inevitable as Colombia gets wealthier and the exchange rate makes it so expensive for gringos, places like LDV and Elektra will suffer. It's surely just a matter of time before they shut down completely IMHO. A few years probably, but eventually. Still, make hay while the sun shines as they say.
Tu Candela I really enjoyed the atmosphere and music. They had a handful working girls, very obvious to spot, they usually hang around the bar and will easily make eye contact. In fact two of them arrived at the door and kissed the dude at the door, so they were regulars. I was too tired from the previous night, just wanted to enjoy a few drinks and good Colombian music. Now this is the funny part: Many tourists also hang out at Tu Candela, and there was these two quite handsome dudes who hit at these two working girls, one of the girls quite good looking. Obviously, it was very easy to make contact with the girls; shortly after a big bottle of rum was ordered, and not too long after the dudes were dancing with the girls, holding hands, etc. The dudes looked very happy as they were sure they were going to score. Later on I saw them separated and the dudes did not look that happy anymore, I guess they found out there was a price to be paid. So even when you are good looking, the chicas will only go with you if you pay them or have some kind of benefit. If they want to screw around and have fun, they will do it with the locals.
Mojo Bandit
07-06-13, 13:38
[QUOTE=Artful; 1442770]. It is inevitable as Colombia gets wealthier and the exchange rate makes it so expensive for gringos, places like LDV and Elektra will suffer.
I do not think that Colombia is getting "Wealthier", considering that the GDP growth has been averaging around 4% and inflation eats about 1. 5 to 3. 5 percent of that, the most growth they are seeing is 2. 5, and most of that wealth goes to the Oil and Mining industry so I do not see how that increases the wealth of the average puta. They still have kids to feed, rent to pay, fathers who do not pay child support, and the ones who do not have kids still want those coach purses and new pair of shoes when they crawl out of bed with some gringo and make their way down to the mall.
I think that I can honestly see that the owner of LDV does not make the money that other bars make because guys do not come there to drink, they come to get women, and the women do not want to be too drunk because they want to make to Electra later to finish their work day, so people do not go to LDV to drink, what they should do is charge a 40. 000 COP cover charger and 40. 000 COP drink minimum, then they would be happy, the clients and the putas would not be forced to get drunk.
. I am young and good looking and have pulled working girls for free all over Latin America and South East Asia.
Granted it doesn't work everytime, but it certainly happens from time to time.Hey I'm not young or good looking, but I can pull them free too.
Maybe it's because I'm a cool MF. :)
Hey I'm not young or good looking, but I can pull them free too.
Maybe it's because I'm a cool MF. .Personality plays a role in attraction as well.
Not all about looks.
Hi Mojo,
The fact that mongers don't go to LDV or ELektra to drink has always been true, but the place is much much quieter than before, so something must have changed. The most obvious reason is, as I said, the exchange rate which has made Colombia over twice as expensive for the tourists than when I first visited 7 or 8 years ago. As for the economy, the numbers I'm looking at tell me that GDP has grown 30% in 5 years. This means Colombia is getting much wealthier. You're right to say this takes a while to find its way down to the average working girl though, but it will eventually, bar any major economic crisis such as we saw in Argentina.
The additional factor effecting LDV and Elektra is Aldo's gambling habits. .
[QUOTE=Artful; 1442770]. It is inevitable as Colombia gets wealthier and the exchange rate makes it so expensive for gringos, places like LDV and Elektra will suffer.
I do not think that Colombia is getting "Wealthier", considering that the GDP growth has been averaging around 4% and inflation eats about 1. 5 to 3. 5 percent of that, the most growth they are seeing is 2. 5, and most of that wealth goes to the Oil and Mining industry so I do not see how that increases the wealth of the average puta. They still have kids to feed, rent to pay, fathers who do not pay child support, and the ones who do not have kids still want those coach purses and new pair of shoes when they crawl out of bed with some gringo and make their way down to the mall.
I think that I can honestly see that the owner of LDV does not make the money that other bars make because guys do not come there to drink, they come to get women, and the women do not want to be too drunk because they want to make to Electra later to finish their work day, so people do not go to LDV to drink, what they should do is charge a 40. 000 COP cover charger and 40. 000 COP drink minimum, then they would be happy, the clients and the putas would not be forced to get drunk.
Mojo Bandit
07-07-13, 01:10
Hi Mojo,
The fact that mongers don't go to LDV or ELektra to drink has always been true, but the place is much much quieter than before, so something must have changed. The most obvious reason is, as I said, the exchange rate which has made Colombia over twice as expensive for the tourists than when I first visited 7 or 8 years ago. As for the economy, the numbers I'm looking at tell me that GDP has grown 30% in 5 years. This means Colombia is getting much wealthier. You're right to say this takes a while to find its way down to the average working girl though, but it will eventually, bar any major economic crisis such as we saw in Argentina.
The additional factor effecting LDV and Elektra is Aldo's gambling habits. .
[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit; 1442926]Now that sheds some light on the subject! I never knew a business owner that had a gambling problem that kept their business.. and I have know a few
Mojo Bandit
07-07-13, 12:37
Hi Mojo,
The fact that mongers don't go to LDV or ELektra to drink has always been true, but the place is much much quieter than before,"
You say that the place is much "quieter" than before, does that mean less Chicas and Less Mongers? I have not been there since May of 2011, and I am heading down in less than two weeks.
Seems like the market / environment is ripe for a new freelance bar / club.
Member #4258
07-07-13, 14:47
I usually sit down at LDV and order a bottle of Rum and enjoy the night, the chica scene, and I am not a cheapo. No problem spending 100 COP, but I won't take this nonsense rule anymore, next time, when I am ready to leave, the girl can meet me outside after 10 minutes or so, or find herself another dude, I am not that desperate, there are plenty of other chicas in CTG to have. May be LDV should just require a bar fine of 50ok COP or so.I usually do the same. Order a bottle, and enjoy the scene. I always seemed to find help drinking it. It's best though if the chica you are with doesn't drink the bottle herself since that becomes a waste of money in more ways than one. It's been a couple of years since I've last been to LDV, can you refresh my memory what a bottle of Medellin Anejo costs? I think my bar tab was usually north of 100K anyways.
Personality plays a role in attraction as well.
Not all about looks.Thanks Cali, I never could figure that out hehe. :)
Thanks Cali, I never could figure that out hehe.Just like I could never figure out you were a cool MF and could pull chicas for free.
Maybe this will explain a few things Ricker! Tar Heel Bred was busted with his lies by a poster on the Colombian forum when he was posting about a trip he took in his dreams to Santa Marta I think two years ago, as he forgot what he previously had posted, and one of our members busted him using his own postings.
He also was recently busted on the Philippine board on several occasions, which is why he returned to post his fantasy experiences here on the Colombian forum.LOL what are you talking about? Please do us a favor and post a link to anyone busting me with lies. Would love to see that. And while your at it, get the links from the Philippines forum as well.
I'll be waiting. LOL
Mojo Bandit
07-08-13, 00:43
Maybe this will explain a few things Ricker! Tar Heel Bred was busted with his lies by a poster on the Colombian forum when he was posting about a trip he took in his dreams to Santa Marta I think two years ago, as he forgot what he previously had posted, and one of our members busted him using his own postings.
He also was recently busted on the Philippine board on several occasions, which is why he returned to post his fantasy experiences here on the Colombian forum.The last time I checked this forum was for mongers, some guy talking about pulling chicas for free should go brag some place else. I'm not interested.
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Gents,
This is my first real post. I was in Cartagena for about a full week I took about 3k USD as it was a bit of cash for a business reference I did. I am from central America but reside in the state and I am a successful restaurant / hotel consultant and was looking at Cartagena as it is just booming (from my market analysis) 4 news Hotels 6 new hi rises (Modern Construction) Inflation is high in this city as you have three types of pricing before anything Price 1 Local price #2 A Gamble price if you look Latino you will get a lower quote #3 Gringo / Foreigner price. This falls for all categories restaurants / Bars, Dentist, Doctors, Stores, Street vendors ASK for price first always or your cash will fly 100 million pesos can go quickly $55 dollars give or take. I was in a condo which was the best no problems great people in el Laguito area. I will be going back and consult for a new Japanese / Peruvian / American fusion restaurant concept. None the less lets get down to the needy greedy.
Taxis Drivers (are not your friend)
They are out for Money! And can smell it on you. Prices from airport to hotel 15mil around the inner city 5 mil-6mil.
Brothels / Casas they get commission for taking you their all of them. They can get you girls but you'll never know what you will get. I was hammered my first night their.
And ask a cabby for a dime piece a 10 he brought me a 1 1/2 I could even get a hard on so I told my lobby guy if he wanted to take her down he proceeded as happy man! I could leave him in my room so I stayed and watched I'm not gay but shit mofo can steel my shoes and pradas or something. This man was on a mission pounded this broad for a good hour he later thanked me and said his wife was pregnant and he had not had a snatch in a while. Man was he grateful little things go along way with certain people.
Next Day went to playa Hollywood was approached by 3 guys named Tony on this beach most of the girls were ahh decent nothing wow 4-6. They insisted he had better quality nothing came and the man was sweating balls looking, calling tough to please. Gents this beach is known to the locals as la playa de prepagos (prepaid women) Nothing I liked till I was walking back to my rum a dark girl stacked (Black Colombian straight hair) ufff on high heels done! I approached her que haces (what are you doing) she replied waiting for you. I needed to take this beast down and ask her for Greek she look at me she said how big. I replied that she wouldn't shit right for a week! She got scared for a bit and replied how long I sad 3 hours she said 400 pesos =210 USD kind of steep but this beast in the USA is about $600. Took her to the condo took a Viagra (colombian replica ex something its over the counter) Pounded her made her a hole bleed this women was crying in pain but it just made me drill her harder! Neighbors came knocked on the door to see if everything was ok I gave them 50 million pesos and I said this will continue for 6 days they were happy and said get your moneys worth off these hoes (he was a 64 years old man). Long story short girl did good faced Banged the make up of her. Went to the Casino after Horos I believe met some cool cats Javier from Venezuela one crazy fun MOFO we drank whiskey all night he told the dealers things such as your husband is gay and will leave you for a man if she gave him a bad card LOL "all in fun "and Aldo owner of LDV (La Dolce Vida) he is Italian as I speak some Italian he's been in Cartagena for 20+ years funny guy.
Day 3.
I was on a mission called escorts 3 escorts service Gents don't do this these girls look like a 10 put 6-8 but can't take a pounding! Ordered about 3 and from all online services couldn't don't look like the pic bc they do not update consistently. One girl told me I had to message her Hell no you are not paying me so I gave it to her hard she was trying to escape clawing her way out overall dead bangs. 250 million pesos a pop $130 each. Played in the casino made some money.
Day 4.
Went to casa de Rocio in el bosque area I been to Cartagena a few times met some cool people Samir is the man dark skinned chubby bar man. Prices are fair $60 USD nice chicks 6-8 I'd give them. I took him a gift a cologne he took care of me last trip. I told him I was "arrecho" meaning brutally horny and I need 3 of his finest at the same time. Done deal the chicks have their own room so they had party favors. I bent them all over put a little "backing soda if you know what I mean in their cracks" and boom had a full fledged party ordered a bottle of whiskey to the head. By round to the backing soda got me and could not perform and the chicks went at it themselves DAMN!
Day 5.
Went to EZ stay the fuck out this place is a rip off in el centro! Too expensive went to Angeles this place was good before but the owner is in jail and it just had some not that great chicks! Took of to la bomba de amparo cheap place nice local chicks great place area a bit shady but I am brave soul! This was my kind of place 100 pesos. 160 pesos a pop took down six no Greek! So was a bit upset as that's my thing.
Day 6 Last night had to go all out picked up a few numbers from Pleyboy gents these Women are beast! Clydesdale built strong called her to come in the Am to my room told what I wanted 1. Hog tie her 2. Greek. 3. Light Slap and dirty talk man did she deliver I wanted to marry this broad as she begged for more had to pop 1 Viagra to make sure she remembers my name. She even gave me a rusty trombone and then I put her to sleep. I couldn't feel my legs (she fell asleep hog tied) woke her up told her to call some friends to keep this shit going she called two friends once I opened the door I took another pill (10 beast) surely 2k call girls each per hour in the states. Went crazy on these women as they all excepted greek and slaping each other spit all over the mirrors, chocking man I am a sick man! LOL Till the next morning this joke cost me $230 each chick well worth the money!
Day 7.
Now my budget was slim Cartagena is a expensive city so had one chick before my flight told her to give me BBBJ for 2 hours $75 USD told her if she did Greek she said never! Will really not even for a new Samsung galaxy took her down. They love phones! She left crying in pain she probably won't shit right for a month. Had to pay the maid a nice tip for the mess underwear on the fan, condoms, bloody sheets, paraphernalia, cigars, stains what a mess.
Great trip but if you want to dream big you need to spend big and then you have your non expensive but the crazier you are the more you spend! Feel free to contact me for any info I will be back next month or in two latest for the build out of a club!
Picked up a few chicks for free but damn rookies rather pay for the pros straight to the point! No yes maybe shit.
Happy hunting's
75, 000 COP for a 375ml Ron Medellin 3 anjo. Last time I was sitting with a chica who only had one drink, she was not a big drinker. But every 5 minutes some chica would come by, smile and ask if she can take a shot. In the end, more than half the bottle was left and no problem finding takers. The chica, who did not get that drunk was a great performer, I was actually amazed. Usually, I find chicas who love to get drunk over time and open up enjoying a fun night, I have had quite a few of those in the past.
I usually do the same. Order a bottle, and enjoy the scene. I always seemed to find help drinking it. It's best though if the chica you are with doesn't drink the bottle herself since that becomes a waste of money in more ways than one. It's been a couple of years since I've last been to LDV, can you refresh my memory what a bottle of Medellin Anejo costs? I think my bar tab was usually north of 100K anyways.
Yeah, sure, it can be done. Even in the US or wherever, if you are young and good looking it can be done. But when you go to a club, walk to the bar and within 2 minutes a hot looking girl you hit on is almost all over you, you can be sure there is more to than she liking you.
Anyway, my point really was that yes, at Tu Candela there are pros, but only a few that only seem to get in there through some connection. If you are into the game, it's pretty clear to see which ones are pro and which ones not.
You should take the time to read.
The only reason I mentioned it was due to a poster saying that it can't be done, which was bs and I called him out on it.
The guy made a sweeping false generalization from one observation.
I am heading to Cartagena for my first trip to Colombia in a few weeks and have been reading through page after page of this forum but I haven't seen a whole lot of info about casas. I'm not planning to spend a long amount time with these girls and I don't really want to even bother with the hassle of trying to bring them to my hotel room so what are my options for casas or just ST hotels in general where you can pay by the hour? Yes, I've seen Hillbilly69's famous map, and while definitely a gold mine, doesn't really list many kinds of places that I described above. I'd prefer just a simple working girl-house for the convenience but if I end up picking up chicas, where or what would be some good hour-by-hour hotels to use?
I've also been seeing plenty of posts about the brutal exchange rates etc etc but isn't it possible to just withdraw COP directly from a branch of one's bank or ATM without having to lose money (other than the ATM fees obviously)? I've read elsewhere that people do this but it takes a while to get the money because they need to confirm your identity and what not. Personally, I'd rather take the extra time to get the money than lose a hefty percentage of it at the exchanges. Some info on the reality of doing this would greatly be appreciated.
As far as party favors go in Colombia, I assumed top notch stuff would be fairly easy to acquire but from some of the posts I've read on here, it seems to be rather difficult finding pure gear. I'd just like to know where I should search for it and what kind of vendors I should avoid if I am trying to find the good stuff.
Lastly, are there any good casinos in town for games like texas hold them or 5 card? I love a few hands of poker.
A girl I met at the beach confirmed almost exactly what you wrote. She told me they are cheapos, walk into LDV / Elektra and order one beer for 4 guys, or no drinks at all, and that some of them aren't allowed in anymore. I mean they really don't have money, most of them had to spend 3 years or so of hard life at the Israeli armee, for very little money, so in Colombia they spend some time reliefing from all the drama they went through.
Then she started talking about Casa Benjamin, that sometimes chicas, when they have no customers, go there to get drugged with Marijuana, Cocaine and cripa. Apparently the Israelis themselves are also heavy drug users. I once saw myself at Plaza Cochez where the low end street walkers hang around, at 1am or so four young Israelis walked over to them talked and left with two of the girl. I can't tell what kind of deal they made, however, those two girls looked very low life, very "used" and screwed up, I would never put my hands on them, not even if they paid me.
I do not think Casa Benjamin and Casa Golan were ever even mentioned here, but I do think it's worth to let you know.
Casa Benjamin is a house at Laguito, sea side, almost in front of the police post, after the last calle to the sea (where's Dona Marciana). You see "BENJAMIN" written in large letters on the front.
There is an anonymous door, always closed. To open, people must ring the bell. It's kind of hotel, where patrons are only guys from Israel. I've seen some of them, young and fit. I guess that they must come from the army or something. (All Israelitis come from Army, but they look definitely in service to me).
So what's the point to mention this place in ISG?
Now that Elektra is closed, many girls like to go there at night. It's not open to men, that is hobby players like us. Only to girls, to the sole benefit of hotel guests. Do they pay well? Apparently not, but this place is famous among CTG working girls because of the widest choice of drugs freely circulating there, including the worst: cripa, coca, synthetic, mixes of coca and other things to smoke, etc etc.
A girl told me that some girls even fuck for free there at early morning, just because of the hype.
I did not see Casa Golan, but I heard it's the same kind of place: open to tourists from Isreal, famous for sex&drugs parties every night.
I saw the place from the sea, passing by on a boat. It looks anonymous. Two girls were sitting on the terrace. It reminded me a place like the Mansion in MDE, with girls and guests freely meeting, if it was not for the drugs (no drugs at Mansion).
This place makes me feel bad and nervous. Only girls allowed to enter the door, which is permanently and discretely closed. How could it be tolerated by the authorities? Everyone knows the amount of drugs that are sold and consumed there every night, but they must have some good friend located high.
CartaAngel
07-11-13, 03:58
I am heading to Cartagena.Hi Blizz man, as a first timer you may need a local to show around that way you can get a full experience and a good feel of CTG not just Laguito, Hollywood beach, there is more fun than simply those place for mongers, there are some available wingmen and tour guides recommended on this website, combine the knowlodge of a trustworthy local with Hillbilly's map so that you can achieve all you need and get to all the casas.
Last time I went to a new casa called something like "Donde Matta" I didn't like its location though, I was going to write a report about it but didn't think it was worth doing. Maybe you can find out more about it among others that should be added to the map, there is another one that had young sexy chicas they were all 7 or 9 to me I was way too drunk so couldn't catch the name of that place
Mojo Bandit
07-11-13, 05:29
owhat are my options for casas or just ST hotels in general where you can pay by the hour? Yes, I've seen Hillbilly69's famous map, and while definitely a gold mine, doesn't really list many kinds of places that I described above. I'd prefer just a simple working girl-house for the convenience but if I end up picking up chicas, where or what would be some good hour-by-hour hotels to use?
I've also been seeing plenty of posts about the brutal exchange rates etc etc but isn't it possible to just withdraw COP directly from a branch of one's bank or ATM without having to lose money (other than the ATM fees obviously)? I've read elsewhere that people do this but it takes a while to get the money because they need to confirm your identity and what not. Personally, I'd rather take the extra time to get the money than lose a hefty percentage of it at the exchanges. Some info on the reality of doing this would greatly be appreciated.
If you are with a chica and want an hour-by-hour hotel; Ask a taxi driver to take you to "Hotel Economico". Say "Llevarnos a un hotel economico" which to the best of my ability to write pronunciation is pronounced "yea-bvarnoes ah une hotel econ OH mee koe" thats the best I can do with the phonetics. Maybe you speak spanish, but if you do not, there is no sound in english like the "V" in spanish it is combination of the B and V sound in english but is not exatly either, so if you say them together BV, it is close enough.
I use the ATM always, In France, Mexico, Colombia, Italy, Thailand, Kenya, and Tanzania. Always cover your hand when you punch in your PIN, because it there is a Coloning device in the ATM machine, there is probably a camera watching for your PIN. Also let your bank know you are traveling if you are going to use a Visa, Mastercard etc, so they do not cancel your card. My Capital one card has place on their website to set travel alerts.
I am heading to Cartagena for my first trip to Colombia in a few weeks and have been reading through page after page of this forum but I haven't seen a whole lot of info about casas. I'm not planning to spend a long amount time with these girls and I don't really want to even bother with the hassle of trying to bring them to my hotel room so what are my options for casas or just ST hotels in general where you can pay by the hour? Yes, I've seen Hillbilly69's famous map, and while definitely a gold mine, doesn't really list many kinds of places that I described above. I'd prefer just a simple working girl-house for the convenience but if I end up picking up chicas, where or what would be some good hour-by-hour hotels to use?
I've also been seeing plenty of posts about the brutal exchange rates etc etc but isn't it possible to just withdraw COP directly from a branch of one's bank or ATM without having to lose money (other than the ATM fees obviously)? I've read elsewhere that people do this but it takes a while to get the money because they need to confirm your identity and what not. Personally, I'd rather take the extra time to get the money than lose a hefty percentage of it at the exchanges. Some info on the reality of doing this would greatly be appreciated.
As far as party favors go in Colombia, I assumed top notch stuff would be fairly easy to acquire but from some of the posts I've read on here, it seems to be rather difficult finding pure gear. I'd just like to know where I should search for it and what kind of vendors I should avoid if I am trying to find the good stuff.
Lastly, are there any good casinos in town for games like texas hold them or 5 card? I love a few hands of poker.
El Pueblito at San Martin and Calle 5, lots of others along Carrera 3 between Calles 4 and 6 all in Boca Grande.
The casino is near the above love hotel, isn't it convenient, eh?
No, it is impossible. Your debit or credit card exchange cost (not a loss) is 2. 5% of the current rate.
Your gear question is against the rules of this forum.
A girl I met at the beach confirmed almost exactly what you wrote. She told me they are cheapos, walk into LDV / Elektra and order one beer for 4 guys, or no drinks at all, and that some of them aren't allowed in anymore. I mean they really don't have money, most of them had to spend 3 years or so of hard life at the Israeli armee, for very little money, so in Colombia they spend some time reliefing from all the drama they went through.
Then she started talking about Casa Benjamin, that sometimes chicas, when they have no customers, go there to get drugged with Marijuana, Cocaine and cripa. Apparently the Israelis themselves are also heavy drug users. I once saw myself at Plaza Cochez where the low end street walkers hang around, at 1am or so four young Israelis walked over to them talked and left with two of the girl. I can't tell what kind of deal they made, however, those two girls looked very low life, very "used" and screwed up, I would never put my hands on them, not even if they paid me.Unless you understand the culture and language and able to make clear judgement of particular fellow travelers or expats, stay away.
Mojo Bandit
07-11-13, 16:39
Can anyone tell me if Electra is currently closed. I saw post in March saying it was closed, then I saw later posts where the poster was worried that it would "close again", so I am wandering if it reopened after March and is currently open?
It was open last week, but I left ater 30 minutes or so, too much agression in there, lots of drugged people, leftover girls, girls looking for their second round, not the same vibe it had in previous years.
Can anyone tell me if Electra is currently closed. I saw post in March saying it was closed, then I saw later posts where the poster was worried that it would "close again", so I am wandering if it reopened after March and is currently open?
Sure there are girls for pickup at the beach. I went there late afternoon, saw one chica with a really nice body (right on playa prepago / Hollywood) , as I looked at her, her friend sitting nearby started waving at me. I walked over and sat down. We chit chatted, watched the awsome sunset and when I asked them if they would like to meet me up for dinner, they were very happy; no Toni or so involved, in fact some dude came over aggressively (probably one of the many Tonis) trying to sell us beer, coktails etc, but I said no, and the girls told him to leave. We met for dinner at 9pm, and from there, I took one of them with me, had a great night (yes, I did pay her). I also noticed several girls who I had seen at LDV hang around there. I can't tell if all girls are prepago there, but you just need to try and use your own judgement.
You won't find girls at the beach.
Describe to Tony exactly what are looking for.
Tell him how much you will pay her, how much you will pay for the taxi etc.
In Tony's mind he wants to make at least 100K from this appointment, all cut from direct fees, drinks margin, taxi, a cut from the girl etc. Your total bill should be close to 200K all included, Tony and a girl and this is a fairdeal. You have to be tough and explain to him when you won't pay anything, like when she won't meet your expectations in person. Here is an example. You pay to the girl 150K taxi included for day ST. 30K out of it goes to T. You pay T. Directly 50K for 'a beer'. Tony's driver will pick up the girl and drive her back. Once with a girl turn off her and yours mobile phones.
Mojo Bandit
07-12-13, 10:47
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It was open last week, but I left ater 30 minutes or so, too much agression in there, lots of drugged people, leftover girls, girls looking for their second round, not the same vibe it had in previous years.Thanks Answering My Post. That Really Sucks About Elektra. Last Time I Was There Two Years Ago It Was Very Happening. I'll Be In Cartagena Wednesday Next Week. LDV Will Be My First Stop. If You Are Still Around Look Me. I'm Close To Fifty than Forty. I'm Mostly Bald On ToP. Have A Big Gut. I'll Buy You Two Of Whatever You're Drinking. Plus I Am In Need Of More Information About the Playa Hollywood Scene HowTo Rent Table / Cabana While Avoiding Toni.
Mojo Bandit
07-12-13, 13:11
In my last post I was asking about Playa Hollywood. I have been through that beach area before and it is hard to distinguish where one can go to ask about renting chairs and a cabana (or whatever those things are called that block the sun) I have been warned not to sit in the umbrella types by Hillbilly69 because these are Toni's. I do not have any desire to do business with a middle man, I want to talk to Chica's myself. But I do not know who to approach about renting non Tony chairs and cabanas.
How do they enforce this new minimum alcohol amount at LDV? I am still a bit confused as to the change.
Looks like someone needs to make a new free lance spot.
Anyone know if the strip club Lucitania is still closed in Barranquilla?
Basically, the waiters and Mr. Aldo keep an eye on girls who sit with customers. When you pay your bill the waiter will know very well how much you spent. Now, if the girl leaves with you, not meeting the minimum drinking requirement, they won't stop her. However, next time she shows up Mr. Aldo won't let her in and ban her for a few days.
I stayed with one very sweet girl for a few days, before she went home to some small town in the south; I asked her all about the LDV stuff we keep reading. She told me something like "Aldo mucho molesta las chicas." that he keeps telling them to get customers buy drinks. He also demands when they don't have customers for the night to show up at 3am at Electra. If girls don't comply with his demands he will penalize them like not allowing them into LDV for 2 days or so. I also asked her if "Aldo, mucho tiempo a la casino" and she said like "si, mucho, mucho, mucho, todo dia."
There seem to be also a good amount of regular girls that show up at LDV every night and who don't seem to have to meet these minimum criteria, as they seem loyal to Aldo anyway. I think he enforces these rules only on the chicas who show up once in a while, or who come to town for a few weeks to make money and leave. At least that's how I observed it.
How do they enforce this new minimum alcohol amount at LDV? I am still a bit confused as to the change.
Looks like someone needs to make a new free lance spot.
Anyone know if the strip club Lucitania is still closed in Barranquilla?
Basically, the waiters and Mr. Aldo keep an eye on girls who sit with customers. When you pay your bill the waiter will know very well how much you spent. Now, if the girl leaves with you, not meeting the minimum drinking requirement, they won't stop her. However, next time she shows up Mr. Aldo won't let her in and ban her for a few days.
I stayed with one very sweet girl for a few days, before she went home to some small town in the south; I asked her all about the LDV stuff we keep reading. She told me something like "Aldo mucho molesta las chicas." that he keeps telling them to get customers buy drinks. He also demands when they don't have customers for the night to show up at 3am at Electra...Seems the best thing to do would be to leave at seperate times.
Who is this Aldo guy? He is an older Italian fella or Colombian?
So in case you didn't know, Colombia serves no alcohol during election weekends. This just happened in Cartagena, electoin day, I believe for a new mayor. Yesterday, I was wondering why the supermarket had marked off the alcohol area; today I was wondering why it was all empty on Plaza Coches, Fidel closed, Tu Candela closed, in fact all of centro historico was super quiet. All bars, clubs were closed, including LDV. Finally I asked the portier at my apartment building and he told me.
WreckDiver
07-15-13, 16:57
A suggestion to everybody that is feed up with LDV just go to El Paraiso del Marino, the locals just call it Club Marino. Better looking girls and better service. Just take a taxi its about 15-20 000 cop and just as many minutes' drive from the clock tower. Do not pay more, prices for the chicas are 100 000 150 000 (30 min) depending on negotiation skills and great rooms.
Regards,
Wreckdiver
A suggestion to everybody that is feed up with LDV just go to El Paraiso del Marino, the locals just call it Club Marino. Better looking girls and better service. Just take a taxi its about 15-20 000 cop and just as many minutes' drive from the clock tower. Do not pay more, prices for the chicas are 100 000 150 000 (30 min) depending on negotiation skills and great rooms.
Regards,
WreckdiverCan you describe this place? Is it a casa, strip club, or free lance bar / club?
CartaAngel
07-16-13, 04:28
Can you describe this place? Is it a casa, strip club, or free lance bar / club?They have a facebook page, google it as Paraiso del Marino club
CartaAngel
07-16-13, 04:47
Can you describe this place? Is it a casa, strip club, or free lance bar / club?I forgot to answer your questions, it isn't a freelance bar, it is a strip joint, you pay a multa upfront and take who you like, no minimum liquor consumption rules, it can be a place a bit more like pleyclub, lots of chicas with some plastic but there are some other ones completely natural, chicas for all tastes I'd say, every time I visited there I happened to run into a few hot chicas that appear in sex movies on Culioneros (dot) com, great experience there.
Mojo Bandit
07-18-13, 12:38
I arrived in Cartagena yesterday, went to the ATM to get money to get a taxi to the apartment. The ATM would not take my credit card. Had to take the $40 us dollars to exchange to get pesos for taxi. I tried another ATM near the apartment, and again it does not work! So I try an online transaction with my ATM card on Amazon. Rejected!
I had called my Bank a week before and told them when I was traveling to Colombia! And yet they still froze my card. I use verizon cell phone and it does not work in Colombia. So I was stressed. Then I finally realize that I can use Skype (I used a credit card to add minutes because they charge for calls to a phone) because I discover that my laptop has a built in microphone (I got lucky). So I call the bank. And after waiting on hold and asking what use was it ti call them and tell them that I am going to be traveling if they are going to sabotage my trip! Eventually they ask me to verify that I tried to used the card at an ATM in Colombia and they release the freeze on my card.
This was my third trip to Cartagena and I have been to Italy, Mexico, France, Thailand, Tanzania, and Kenya. Used my ATM card every where without a glitch. And on my Third trip to Colombia and after I called and told them that I was going to Colombia. They froze my card.
So for anyone coming to Colombia I advise to bring backup cash to exchange and some plan to call your bank if they freeze your card
Black Page
07-18-13, 16:29
So for anyone coming to Colombia I advise to bring backup cash to exchange and some plan to call your bank if they freeze your cardYour advice is about Colombia or about your bank? :D
Mojo Bandit
07-18-13, 21:00
Your advice is about Colombia or about your bank? :DSince many Banks use a third party company for fraud prevention (My sister works for a fraud prevention company) , and since my landlord here in Colombia says this has happened to many of his clients, I say it is about using ATM in Colombia... my landlord said that it happens because Colombia is marked by fraud prevention people as a place that Cards are frozen because they think they get cloned here.
Manizales911
07-18-13, 21:57
Since many Banks use a third party company for fraud prevention (My sister works for a fraud prevention company) , and since my landlord here in Colombia says this has happened to many of his clients, I say it is about using ATM in Colombia. my landlord said that it happens because Colombia is marked by fraud prevention people as a place that Cards are frozen because they think they get cloned here.I would never travel out of the country and certainly not to a third world country without a significant knot of cash AND two credit or debit cards. Relying on just a piece of plastic thousands of miles from home is just foolish to me, no offense. I bring enough money for a few days food and hotel and a plane ticket home in case the shit hits the fan one way or another. Upon leaving the airport of my final destination I split up the cash and cards and put them in three different spots on my person and carry on so I know that if I am robbed they aren't getting all three.
Mojo Bandit
07-19-13, 09:27
I went to check out LDV tonight. I was sadly disappointed. The quality is not what it was two years ago. Maybe I'll try back on the weekend. But really the last time I was there I was like a kid in a candy store, trying to decide between which hot chica I wanted. Tonight all I seen was 6's 7's and a sprinkle of eights. The one eight that was not taken is the one that I took back to my apartment. The one thing I will add is that right away the bidding did not start a the usual 350 mil that it did the last time I was here. So I bargained her down to to 175 mil, which never happened on my past two trips here, but that is just my experience. There were more chicas than guys by a decent margin, so it was a buyers market tonight.
As for the 100 mil spending minimum, it didn't come into play because I easily spent that pretty quick. The first two chicas I sat with I ordered drinks for them and one for me, then I sat with two other chicas and bought two more rounds, and it happens fast as far as the 100 mil spending. I took 100 mil with me, and took a chica home when it was gone. $50 bucks is what 100 mil equals and that is not hard to spend in any bar. The drinks there seemed overpriced, but access to hot chicas is what they are really selling. I spent $25 USD at cafe del mar for 2 tequilas and two beers. I've heard of guys saying that the chica they were with had to drink too much etc, but I figure just spread it around. buy some chicas some drinks, the bar gets the propina and you get access to freelance chicas. My problem with the casas is that the time limit sucks, when I pick up a chica in LDV, never has she just stayed for the hour that we agreed, it usually becomes two hours easily, some drinks, some forplay and then the business. So for me the 100 mil is no big deal.
Anyway I am going to venture a little in the few days that I am here, probably check out Elektra and see what other action is around that is freelance. And if anyone can tell me about some casa that has stunners. With coke bottle bodies that charge what the freelance chicas charge then I will be there.
Black Page
07-19-13, 10:51
I would never travel out of the country and certainly not to a third world country without a significant knot of cash AND two credit or debit cards. Relying on just a piece of plastic thousands of miles from home is just foolish to me, no offense. I bring enough money for a few days food and hotel and a plane ticket home in case the shit hits the fan one way or another. Upon leaving the airport of my final destination I split up the cash and cards and put them in three different spots on my person and carry on so I know that if I am robbed they aren't getting all three.Totally agree with that, except that I cannot feel Colombia as a "third world country", meaning that it is on the same category as Central Africa or the like. Actually, they cloned my card in Europe, and two times it was blocked because used at a "compromised" merchant (but not cloned anyway) , but my cards were never blocked after using them in Colombia.
I travel anywhere with 3 cards: 2 credit (Visa, Mastercard) and one debit (Maestro) , but little or no cash to limit damage in case of rob.
I must say that in Colombia NOT ALL ATMs allow me to withdraw cash with my Maestro card. Some large banks, mysteriously, seem not in good communication with my bank or the Maestro circuit. If you guys try your card in an ATM and your card is declined, I suggest to not panic and just make a tour of different ATMs.
Mojo Bandit
07-20-13, 03:51
Totally agree with that, except that I cannot feel Colombia as a "third world country", meaning that it is on the same category as Central Africa or the like. Actually, they cloned my card in Europe, .My landlord here in Colombia said that the only time his card was cloned was somewhere in USA
Mojo Bandit
07-20-13, 10:47
I skipped LDV tonight, went walking through Centro and about 1am I walked by the Clock Tower, to the benches near Tu Candela, most of the chicas were lower grade. 5s 6s and 7s, so since I was tired, I decided to stop looking at their faces and started looking strictly at the bodies. One blond had a a tight little body with a decent rack. The looked to round to be real but the phenomenon I have seen in Colombia is these chicks tits look fake but feel real. I don't know if they have phenomenal genes or phenomenal plastic surgeons that use a different silicon than in the USA. Anyway mi gusta mucho these titties so I made some small talk and asked for a price. 150 mil is where the bidding starts ended with 125 mil pesos. Good service. Bbj. Great effort. I usually just go for 8s to 9s. Rarely see a ten. But the service made up for the looks. Tomorrow my plan is to survey LDV and Elektra. If the sky clears some (nasty weather here today. Some fierce winds and pounding rain, El Laguito lived up to its name as the streets all turned into little lakes) so if the sky clears I will check out Playa Hollywood.
Mojo Bandit
07-21-13, 08:55
So I posted earlier that I my strategy to meet the requirement at LDV was to spread the love and buy a few woman drinks, I set aside 100mil and spend it on drinks as I talk to different Chicas. Tonight it did not take long to find my target. There was only one "hottie" in the place, she was very very well built. face was a nine. And the body was a Ten on my score card. Very cute little number from the back country of Bucaramanga. Gorgeous. And the service was very decent also. BBJ. A few different positions. the only bad part was that she was a clock watcher. Damage was high also. 200mil.
So I had been reading about the new policy here on the board. So I had been going to buy drinks three at a time to the tune of thirty six mill a trip. So three trips and I have met the expected mark. So tonight I did not want to drink, so I ordered 7 Up when I was buying the chicas whiskeys. I wanted to get this hottie while I was sober and enjoy it. Plus I was tired cause earlier I did the tourista thing and walked around the old city taking pictures trying out my new wide angle lens. So I am on my way out with the chica and one of the bouncers or whatever said Something in spanish that included "senior" and " mas cerveza". I was obviously irritated when I said "no" and because I do not speak fluent or even conversational Spanish... I said in a sarcastic tone "I don't think so". Then I went to the bartender and said in my muy mal espanol." yo pago mucho dinero. Si?". And he nodded yes to the bouncer character and that was the end of it. But before that even happened. The chica I was leaving with went to talk to one of the workers and I could neither hear nor understand what they were saying. But I got the impression that they were negotiating whether or not she could leave with me. And the final verdict was yes. Because we did. But yes LDV is turned into a hassle. Because I met the expected spending and still I got hassled.
I am thankful for the members on this forum who reported the new "rule" because had I not known what was going on, they might have hassled me into drinking when did not want to or just leaving pissed off and with no chica... instead of knowing to have the bartender to back up my spending...
Followed by Electra, LDV by far is the most boring and depressive spots I visited over the world for the purpose of this forum. In my view high cost of alcohol plays the major role.
Member #4258
07-23-13, 03:19
Followed by Electra, LDV by far is the most boring and depressive spots I visited over the world for the purpose of this forum. In my view high cost of alcohol plays the major role.OK, tell me the best place, and I'll go there.
Mojo Bandit
07-23-13, 03:41
OK, tell me the best place, and I'll go there.I know I am sort of butting in here between you and Questner, but if you are sincerely asking what is the best place in the world than I will throw in my two cents worth. I have only really mongered in two countries, Colombia (and only Cartagena) and Thailand. For quality based on looks alone. I pick Colombia hands down (their bodies are spectacular). For quantity, price, and service its Thailand. I visited Patong Beach and Bangkok (the quantity would blow your mind if you've never been there, and some of the women are gorgeous, but their bodies are small. Mostly no breast with the occasional. I think that the best I did was a girl in Patong Beach girl had a tight little body with decent rack. But I have yet to make a trip to Medellin, two years ago when I first visited LDV, I was in paradise. Plenty of gorgeous perfectly built woman, but now the quality has dropped off, maybe I hit a bad week. The women certainly outnumber the men, but now its all 6s and 7s. Last time it was 8s and 9s. Plenty of women with nice bodies, but I like a pretty face to go with the bod. The set up at LDV is what I like also. You can walk around and take your time choosing. But my experience is limited, if the quality goes back up I may return, but in the mean time. I'm studying Medellin
Hey Mojo, appreciate your posts but I believe Hoser was being sarcastic as the post by Questner makes him look like a clueless dude if what he posted about LDV is actually how he feels.Once I was a clueless dude indeed when many years ago medical students in Medellin were chopping homeless and selling their parts $20 per leg or arm.
OK, tell me the best place, and I'll go there.The best place for FUN (and here LDV earns a steady zero) will be today in Angeles City.
Mojo Bandit
07-23-13, 06:29
The best place for FUN (and here LDV earns a steady zero) will be today in Angeles City.Be Honest: are there any women in the Philippines with the HourGlass 36-26-36 figures?
Member #4258
07-24-13, 00:05
Hey Mojo, appreciate your posts but I believe Hoser was being sarcastic as the post by Questner makes him look like a clueless dude if what he posted about LDV is actually how he feels.True, I was being sarcastic, but I am also interested in Questner's favorite place. Philippines is on my list for sure, but just a little bit inconvenient. So I will be true to my word and visit Angeles City in the future. I like LDV (and CTG) so I will be there late Nov for my 3rd visit. For 2014, considering Medellin, maybe the Philippines. Been to Thailand twice so obviously I like Thai girls. They're same same, but different.
Be Honest: are there any women in the Philippines with the HourGlass 36-26-36 figures?Hour Glass, pain in the ass. There are a lot of fine ladies in the PI, however Gran Colombia is the place for beauty. As for FUN, once done with a massive pool party in AC or beach party in Subic, you'll know the difference in FUN.
Mojo Bandit
07-24-13, 06:19
There are a lot of fine ladies in the PI, however Gran Colombia is the place for beauty.Why does Questner Come to Cartagena?
I think Questner answered the question: Gran Colombia is the place for Beauty;
OceanDiver59
07-29-13, 03:50
More photos for your review.Who is the girl on the left.
Thanks
Hi. I read several posts re: the new "rule" at LDV and just wanted to confirm as I am not so clear on this. So if I am going to take a girl out of LDV, I need to spend 100,000 COP or roughly $53.00 USD on drinks before any of the girls can go? So they build a tab for me and if I am at $38.75 it's a no go? They should just bar fine like Bangkok. Anyways, please let me know. Why can't the girl just slip out the door and meet me in the street? Or come by later? Sorry for the confusion but am heading there this week and would like as much solid info posssible. Thanks for all the posts as this board has been making my hobby easier for years.
Smilin Jack
08-05-13, 13:24
Hi Loverio,
You and the girl can leave separately and meet in the street. If they suspect she is leaving separately to avoid Aldo's minimum drink buy, they will restrict her from returning to the bar for several days as punishment. An alternative is to meet girls just outside LDV, before they go in or after they come out. Aldo can't do bar fines because his license is for a traditional disco, not a brothel.
Mojo Bandit
08-15-13, 05:21
One experience I had in Cartagena that I think I forgot to add to my post a few weeks ago. My taxi got stopped by the cops and they had me get out of the car and they frisked me, then they let us go. I was leaving the old city and heading toward Bocagrande, and just after we got out on the main road that leads to Bocagrande, there was sort of road block and the cops had us pull over, I was with a chica that I had met in front of Tu Candela on plaza de coches, but I (the Gringo) was the only one required to get out of the car and be frisked. Obviously I was clean, and they let me get back in the car and they let us go. I have been at stops like this in Cartagena before when they just looked in the car, saw a gringo, and waved the taxi on. So this time the only part I thought was strange was that I was the only one required to get out and be frisked.
Followed by Electra, LDV by far is the most boring and depressive spots I visited over the world for the purpose of this forum. In my view high cost of alcohol plays the major role.I can confirm this. I've only been to Cartagena but the visitor to Colombia must be aware that Colombians in Cartagena in the tourism industry specialize in sucking money out of tourists. LDV chicas are idiots. Quick story. Went into LDV on a Tuesday night. There were probably about 30-50 extremely hot chicas and 3-5 guys. I talk to one that would not go down from 200k for one shot. Plus they always try and bring you drinks and have insane consumption rules. Needless to say I wait until LDV closes, go to Elektra, hang out with same girls and price goes down to 150k. Most of these chicas go there every night and go home empty handed.
Quick screening tip that worked for me after I learnt: ask a girl in LDV where she is from / staying. If she lives in Cartagena and stays in Boca Grande or El Laguito take a pass on her. It means that she is committed to the business and you'll get bad service and a high price. She considers herself "high class" and already lives comfortably in the nicest area. She may have a daytime job already or a gringo benefactor who pays for her apartment and therefore she doesn't even really need your money. Ask her how long she is doing this. If she is new take advantage of that and you can get the real Colombian price (economic value) of 150k TLN. Also, don't exit LDV with a chica. Tell her your apartment number and get her number and then leave without her. Tell her to stay there for 5 minutes and then leave. Your only risk is another guy snatching her up. Offer her for ST (1 shot only). No more than 150k and then let her know that she can stay overnight if she'd like. If she likes you she'll stay for free otherwise she'll simply ask for more money. Don't pay more than 100k more. Max you'll end up paying is 250k.
Otherwise, beach is way better place to meet chicas. Try and directly talk to chicas at the beach. If there are none or very few, which happened to me, use Tony. He will try to suck money out of you constantly and charge you for everything. Use him minimally and then communicate directly with the chicas once you are put in contact. He takes a cut. Chicas told me that he expects that they get paid 120k per session and therefore charges his commission based on that. It was my first time there and I paid 180 being the unseasoned rookie there. They had the guts to ask me to tell Tony I paid 120k so that they could save money. I should have asked for a rebate otherwise I'd tell Tony!
Don't bother going to Tu Candela for chicas. Only the ugly ones hang out there and they are all super hard core and probably dangerous.
The Colombian culture and people in Cartagena are depressing although there are nice people there. I met a restaurant owner who was pretty nice. He didn't charge anything and helped me bargain down at one of the tourist shops. Everything in Cartagena is negotiable outside of places with menus. If there is no menu they will make up the price and change it whenever they feel like it! I speak Spanish so I caught on to this. It gave me a headache and was very depressing.
Cartagena is a great place if you are savvy and don't mind negotiating. It is very safe and has a beach and taxis are cheap.
Additional tip: all girls in LDV are in communication. It is like a union there. An experienced monger who lives down there told me that a trick to get better pricing is to tell the chica "I'll pay you 150k but I'll tell your friends that I paid 250k". This will save them face when talking with the union and she'll actually make money. LOL. Colombiana logic is messed up.
MadeInCanada
08-25-13, 16:25
I'm not sure where to ask this question but since I'm heading to Cartagena in October with a bunch of the boys, I have many questions. Here is the main one: how do I PM someone here? I go into the profile but unlike other sites, I can't find a PM button. It's quite possible that it is right in front of me but I don't see it.
Many thanks.
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Greetings,
It appears from your post that you don't quite understand the Forum's Private Message service.
To use the Forum's Private Message service, both you and the Forum Member you are trying to contact must be either a subscriber or a Senior Member.
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Jackson
Joey Smith
08-27-13, 11:47
Anyone have any recommended escort agencies they deal with in Cartagena. Passing thru for only one night and would rather have one come visit then deal with the BS at LDV.
Thanks
I'm not sure where to ask this question but since I'm heading to Cartagena in October with a bunch of the boys, I have many questions. Here is the main one: how do I PM someone here? I go into the profile but unlike other sites, I can't find a PM button. It's quite possible that it is right in front of me but I don't see it.
Many thanks.
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Greetings,
It appears from your post that you don't quite understand the Forum's Private Message service.
To use the Forum's Private Message service, both you and the Forum Member you are trying to contact must be either a subscriber or a Senior Member.
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If you cannot afford $20 dollars to buy a subscription, then perhaps you can convince another forum member to purchase a subscription for you.
JacksonIt is very simple, though I had the same issue when I first started a decade ago :-D.
Click on the name of the person you want to send the PM to and you will get four options, one of them is "PM". Looks like you paid your subscription and you have PM privileges. Happy hunting.
Member #4244
08-30-13, 05:33
I can confirm this. I've only been to Cartagena but the visitor to Colombia must be aware that Colombians in Cartagena in the tourism industry specialize in sucking money out of tourists. LDV chicas are idiots. Quick story. Went into LDV on a Tuesday night. There were probably about 30-50 extremely hot chicas and 3-5 guys. I talk to one that would not go down from 200k for one shot. Plus they always try and bring you drinks and have insane consumption rules. Needless to say I wait until LDV closes, go to Elektra, hang out with same girls and price goes down to 150k. Most of these chicas go there every night and go home empty handed.
Quick screening tip that worked for me after I learnt: ask a girl in LDV where she is from / staying. If she lives in Cartagena and stays in Boca Grande or El Laguito take a pass on her. It means that she is committed to the business and you'll get bad service and a high price. She considers herself "high class" and already lives comfortably in the nicest area. She may have a daytime job already or a gringo benefactor who pays for her apartment and therefore she doesn't even really need your money. Ask her how long she is doing this. If she is new take advantage of that and you can get the real Colombian price (economic value) of 150k TLN. Also, don't exit LDV with a chica. Tell her your apartment number and get her number and then leave without her. Tell her to stay there for 5 minutes and then leave. Your only risk is another guy snatching her up. Offer her for ST (1 shot only). No more than 150k and then let her know that she can stay overnight if she'd like. If she likes you she'll stay for free otherwise she'll simply ask for more money. Don't pay more than 100k more. Max you'll end up paying is 250k.
Otherwise, beach is way better place to meet chicas. Try and directly talk to chicas at the beach. If there are none or very few, which happened to me, use Tony. He will try to suck money out of you constantly and charge you for everything. Use him minimally and then communicate directly with the chicas once you are put in contact. He takes a cut. Chicas told me that he expects that they get paid 120k per session and therefore charges his commission based on that. It was my first time there and I paid 180 being the unseasoned rookie there. They had the guts to ask me to tell Tony I paid 120k so that they could save money. I should have asked for a rebate otherwise I'd tell Tony!
Don't bother going to Tu Candela for chicas. Only the ugly ones hang out there and they are all super hard core and probably dangerous.
The Colombian culture and people in Cartagena are depressing although there are nice people there. I met a restaurant owner who was pretty nice. He didn't charge anything and helped me bargain down at one of the tourist shops. Everything in Cartagena is negotiable outside of places with menus. If there is no menu they will make up the price and change it whenever they feel like it! I speak Spanish so I caught on to this. It gave me a headache and was very depressing.
Cartagena is a great place if you are savvy and don't mind negotiating. It is very safe and has a beach and taxis are cheap.
Additional tip: all girls in LDV are in communication. It is like a union there. An experienced monger who lives down there told me that a trick to get better pricing is to tell the chica "I'll pay you 150k but I'll tell your friends that I paid 250k". This will save them face when talking with the union and she'll actually make money. LOL. Colombiana logic is messed up.Excellent thread, would be a report of distinction in my eyes.
I actually like the casas in El Bosque the best, they are all girls from other places who are hustling hard for a buck. I have had some very good service there and it is easy to separate the winners from the losers. Much better experience than at LDV, Elektra or meeting friends of friends arrangements. Rocio is the oldest casa in the city if not the country. Sailors and shit go there for a great time. Angeles uses the same business model. You can meet some nice local girls, too. The night club action is OK, Mr Barbilla's and so forth. The key thing you said is that Cartagena is for haggling and you really have to beware of hustles. KEY things to know.
I really hate the way the culture there is so aggressive and oriented toward ripoffs. Of course the local and national governments do fuck nothing to change the image. It is pretty in pictures but the reality is that it's a bunch of people with no money and / or no scruples trying to get over on you, either that or aggressive vendors and panhandlers, which are also annoying.
Guess things haven't changed much? http://youtu.be/m3X0pCokrCc
I know general prices are higher during the holiday in November. Anyone been there during this time? Is it worth spending more to be there in November?
LocoGringo
08-31-13, 12:43
I know general prices are higher during the holiday in November. Anyone been there during this time? Is it worth spending more to be there in November?Apartments are higher priced during the Miss Colombia festival. 4-11. Late in November is a good time for chicas, school is on vacation and many come to Cartagena for holiday and next semester tuition dinero.
Hello all,
My cousin and I are going to Cartagena, for 10 days on vacation. Listen I am in the final stages of a very ugly divorce, so I am looking to get my mind free from the bullshit I'm dealing with in the states. Can anyone help me out by giving me some advise? I really need to have a good time. I would love to forget my problems for a little while. Someone please reply thanks.
Tony
John Gault
09-02-13, 00:16
Hello all,
My cousin and I are going to Cartagena, for 10 days on vacation. Listen I am in the final stages of a very ugly divorce, so I am looking to get my mind free from the bullshit I'm dealing with in the states. Can anyone help me out by giving me some advise? I really need to have a good time. I would love to forget my problems for a little while. Someone please reply thanks.
TonyI was in a similar situation about six years ago. I went to Lima Peru, and went non stop for about three days hitting everything that caught my eye. Then I settled with one girl for the rest of the trip.
Nothing like being with beautiful Latin women after being raked over the coals by a stinking Gringa.
Just be careful as you are a strong candidate for a rebound, and that is the last thing you need at this stage of the game.
Member #4244
09-02-13, 00:27
Hello all,
My cousin and I are going to Cartagena, for 10 days on vacation. Listen I am in the final stages of a very ugly divorce, so I am looking to get my mind free from the bullshit I'm dealing with in the states. Can anyone help me out by giving me some advise? I really need to have a good time. I would love to forget my problems for a little while. Someone please reply thanks.
TonyRent a nice apartment (better value and much less hassle than a hotel) and consider maybe some of the casas in El Bosque for your entertainment. You can take girls TLN, total damage will be 300k to 400k COP. You can find some excellent service there if you look.
Don't trust hustlers, never pay for anything that you do not have in hand whether it be girls, party favors, whatever. They are out in masse.
You might consider spending some time on the islands. Get there, get your feet under you, meet a girl you can tolerate taking overnight or for a weekend and go out there. Much nicer beaches and atmosphere than the city of CTG.
Apartments are higher priced during the Miss Colombia festival. 4-11. Late in November is a good time for chicas, school is on vacation and many come to Cartagena for holiday and next semester tuition dinero.Correct and I have been meaning to post this for a while. Your answer reminded me to do it.
Schools in Colombia works with two calendars: A or B.
Most of the country schools work with "A" calendar which goes from begining February to begining June (summer vacation) and mid July to mid November (winter vacation, and note that it is longer than summer vacation).
Calendar B goes from mid January to mid May and beginning of August to mid December.
Da Kine Kid
09-13-13, 06:28
Went to Plaza de los Coches on Tuesday around 7PM. Hung around for a while and only saw about three chicas (at least that I could tell were working). Probably slow due to time of day and fact that it was a Tuesday and there was a big football match. One by the gate with nice figure and curves and long straight black hair was really striking a pose and looked great from a distance as I walked. I walked past her and she whispered "hola" to me. Something about her face convinced me to take a pass though. The other two, inside the walls, sitting on the benches to the left of the entrance, were a couple flaquitas, one negra, the other typical complexion, about a 6 and a 7, respectively in my opinion. All the girls around there have great bodies that I've seen, but the decision comes down to the face.
The other one, which I ended up picking up, asked me for 150k for an hour session. I told her I could do 100k, and she agreed without any haggling. In retrospect, may have been able to start lower, but wasn't in the mood. Very quick and easy negotiation.
We headed over to a short time motel, Hotel Las Vegas, I believe it was called, a couple blocks north of the plaza. Price was 30k for the hour. Chica was 20 years old, Venezuelan, slender, very nice, sweet and eager to please.
Checked out LDV last night around 11 or 12 just to see what was available. Beers were 10k a piece. Had a couple while I surveyed the scene. Maybe about 30 or so girls, a lot of real hotties. I had no intention of taking out any girls from there though, given the ridiculous 100k minimum drink policy. It's just too much of a hassle, and overall cost when you factor in the typical price of the chicas there. It's too bad, because it's a great venue and there were a lot of hot chicas there.
Cartagena is an expensive city, particularly compared to other places in Colombia.
I think my next two spots to check out are going to be Playa Hollywood and I would really like to check out that Casa Rosario / Rocio place in El Bosque. Can't beat casas for overall convenience in my opinion.
Anyone else have any additional info about that casa aside from what's already in the forum? Is the area dicey or dangerous? I was planning on checking it out during the daytime.
Member #4244
09-13-13, 15:33
Went to Plaza de los Coches on Tuesday around 7PM. Hung around for a while and only saw about three chicas (at least that I could tell were working). Probably slow due to time of day and fact that it was a Tuesday and there was a big football match. One by the gate with nice figure and curves and long straight black hair was really striking a pose and looked great from a distance as I walked. I walked past her and she whispered "hola" to me. Something about her face convinced me to take a pass though. The other two, inside the walls, sitting on the benches to the left of the entrance, were a couple flaquitas, one negra, the other typical complexion, about a 6 and a 7, respectively in my opinion. All the girls around there have great bodies that I've seen, but the decision comes down to the face.
The other one, which I ended up picking up, asked me for 150k for an hour session. I told her I could do 100k, and she agreed without any haggling. In retrospect, may have been able to start lower, but wasn't in the mood. Very quick and easy negotiation.
We headed over to a short time motel, Hotel Las Vegas, I believe it was called, a couple blocks north of the plaza. Price was 30k for the hour. Chica was 20 years old, Venezuelan, slender, very nice, sweet and eager to please.
Checked out LDV last night around 11 or 12 just to see what was available. Beers were 10k a piece. Had a couple while I surveyed the scene. Maybe about 30 or so girls, a lot of real hotties. I had no intention of taking out any girls from there though, given the ridiculous 100k minimum drink policy. It's just too much of a hassle, and overall cost when you factor in the typical price of the chicas there. It's too bad, because it's a great venue and there were a lot of hot chicas there.
Cartagena is an expensive city, particularly compared to other places in Colombia.
I think my next two spots to check out are going to be Playa Hollywood and I would really like to check out that Casa Rosario / Rocio place in El Bosque. Can't beat casas for overall convenience in my opinion.
Anyone else have any additional info about that casa aside from what's already in the forum? Is the area dicey or dangerous? I was planning on checking it out during the daytime.Rocio is a favorite of mine. Near there, there is also Club Angeles, which has a similar setup but is much newer. Both have female owners. Rocio is a former prepago who worked her way up to the top, a real success story LOL. She runs a tight ship and has a lot of ins with local transport (the cabbies and, more importantly, the port folks who bring in a lot of sailors). At times the selection there is incredible, others it's unremarkable. I have not been in about three years, but I have three friends who work there (a doorman and two chicas) whom I talk to now and then. You will only get good daytime if the ships are in, otherwise the girls will be sleeping or out during their own thing. The downside there is lots of competition for the ones you want. I say go at night, look at the full selection and get numbers. On days when there are no ships coming in during the day, you can get the girls to your place for what you'd pay for one hour only they will stay all afternoon.
The area is not dicey or dangerous. It is a pretty normal residential area, sure it is like Strato 2 or 3 at the highest, but nothing greasy. I have never once felt threatened there in any way, shape or form, and at one point I had a regular I was visiting there all the time. You will see a handful of people out in the street but it's seldom crowded. The cab will take you right to the door. Don't let the cabbies rip you off. They often try to charge foreigners 15K, especially at night. It should be no more than 12K and really more like 10K. Once I took my friend out for lunch and they charged her 7K, though that seemed low as it is kind of a haul from Bocagrande or the old city (maybe 12 minutes).
Anyone familiar with this apartment? http://youtu.be/LNcNMTrg4m8
TheShadow2
09-15-13, 15:30
Anyone familiar with this apartment?
http://youtu.be/LNcNMTrg4m8There are many apartments like that one in Cartagena. Is that one being offered for rentals or something?
There are many apartments like that one in Cartagena. Is that one being offered for rentals or something?Not sure. It seems like this guy rented it for the weekend. I haven't been there yet, but I guess I could check airbnb and some of the other sites as a reference point. I liked the fact that it was spacious and came with a private pool in the apartment.
Archimedes
09-15-13, 21:59
In a phrase, I like Medellin for living and Cartagena for visiting. That is, Cartagena is a big-time tourist destination. In mid-September, tourism is slow. Sometimes it seems the touts and vendors outnumber the tourists, haha. I'm told it's often much more crowded.
Coming from Medellin, Cartagena is a totally different deal. I should say, Bocagrande and the old city are totally different. Maybe the rest of Cartagena is less touristy. But I only know the tourist areas. I wish I could take the charm of Cartagena and mix it with the beautiful water in Cancun. That would be a world-class tourist destination. As it is, the beach in Cartagena is nothing very nice, and the profusion of locals selling massages, sunglasses, hats, miscellaneous tourist crap, beach food, and who knows what else, makes it less enjoyable. Actually, the beach-side bars are kind of nice. In a down-and-dirty way. No credit cards accepted, hehe.
Before coming to Cartagena, I RTFF'ed a lot about La Dolce Vida. My expectations have been exceeded. Two nights I have made quality pulls with excellent service for 150K ST. I think it's a buyers market right now. Last night there were 30-40 chicas there and less than 10 men. That is, until a group of about 10 guys came in together looking like lost sheep. I think they were business guys from the same company, or military guys from Europe. They crowded into a corner, turned inwards on themselves, while the girls in the room waited expectantly for some indication they wanted company. It was hilarious. Some guys have so little game they can't pick up prepagos in a target-rich club like LDV.
I've been disappointed in the beach (though I'm heading out to Hollywood Beach again shortly, it being Sunday afternoon). It's just so f-ing hot out there. And the place is filled with families. Maybe I'll find something today.
The food and drink here are good, especially if you stay away from the tourist places. Last night I treated one of my LDV chicas and her roommate to evening cervezas (beers). The bill was 6mil, or $3 USD, for three beers. It can go the other way, too, as I got socked for a 30mil (USD 16) mojito at Casa del Mar.
The way to deal with taxis, I've learned, is just to get in. You don't have to ask the price. You know the price. From 5mil to 9mil depending on day / night and how far. Hand them a 10mil bill and they'll give you change.
I tried Babar disco last night, with no luck. Almost all couples and just a few stray girls, no lookers. It was Valentine's Day here in Colombia so a bad night to be looking.
Tu Candela was okay a few nights ago. The girls were friendly if older and not-so-hot. I really haven't given non-prepago places a fair shake as LDV is always waiting, with sure success for not a lot more than I'd spend on drinks for non-prepagos.
Most of the girls here are dark-skinned, though one of the two I pulled from LDV was quite fair. She said she can't go to the beach at all for fear of burning. I believe it. That girl was a lesson in how to choose well. She was not the best-looking woman in the room. In fact, she was flat with a bit of a pear shape. But from the moment I sat down at the bar, she smiled at me like she had been waiting a week for my arrival. Sure enough, after I bought her two whiskies, she delivered awesome service. She mentioned being away for 3 months for school. You would have thought she hadn't had a man for 3 months. 2 hours of great sexo and she was in the taxi for 150mil plus 10mil taxi money. Also, this chica's sexual desire is centered in her ass. Squeeze and she moans. Lots of fun!
Okay, time to hit the beach. Wish me luck. It's Sunday and if I strike out at the beach, I might have to. Dread the thought. Repeat one of my LDV girls. Oh, the horror! Hahaha. I love Colombia.
Archimedes
09-16-13, 19:32
On the beach in Bocagrande I spotted a very cute girl sunbathing. This was not Playa Hollywood, where the prepagos would be expected, but a few breakwaters up. So I didn't know if she was a prepago.
The lounger beside her was empty, so I scanned the water and saw another girl in the waves. Figuring there was a good chance that girl was the lounger-owner, I made my approach.
I had little difficulty striking up a conversation. Soon I was sitting in the sand and we were chatting. I asked where she worked. She answered,"un club." Ahhhh, this is good. Which one?"Pleyclub." Ahhh, this is good but maybe bad, too. Pleyclub is the club where the Secret Service fiasco originated; one can only assume that notoriety has made them more popular than ever.
Carolina was young and slender with a tiny swimsuit that showed off her perfect natural curves. In fact, her bottom was so small that had she not shaved, it would have been indecent. When my eyes accidentally wandered there once too often, she caught me and moved her coverup over her lower body. Busted!
Yes, she was working tonight, together with her girlfriend. They had to report to the club at 7pm. The no-show fee was 250mil. Yes, she was interested in skipping work to have dinner with me. When I acted surprised at the size of the no-show fee, she said it was the best club in the city and if I met her there and wanted takeout, the fee would be 600mil. Yikes! I didn't know if this was all true, but she was a hot Paisa from Medellin, there for two months to work in a top club, so it may well have been.
I got her digits then walked her and her girlfriend (not nearly as hot) to a cab. We made plans to meet at the clock tower (Torre de Reloj) in about two hours.
As I walked back to my hotel, I realized this could be super-costly. I would pay the 250mil no-show fee, maybe 250mil propina to her, plus dinner and drinks for two. We're looking at 600mil. Compare to my trusty LDV girls at 150mil plus 50-100mil in drinks. And I was more confident in their level of service.
One thing I've learned doing this is that there are no sure things. The Pleyclub girl at 600mil might give much worse service than a LDV girl. Or better, but who knows? She was a 9+ in looks, but the level of service was unknown.
I traded text msgs with Carolina over the next two hours. She got off work at 4am = too late. No, she didn't want to go to Playa Blanca the next day, though she says she loves Playa Blanca, because it would mean missing a day of work. She was here for two months to make money. No days off. Or, if she takes days off, not with me. I can respect that. Plus this attitude meant even if we had a great night together, it would be tough to repeat.
I cancelled. Not easy to cancel on this quality of chica, but I think it was the right decision. The rule is: GFE with hot chicas can be found at all price levels. Only pay the highest prices if you have tons of money and little time to hunt. For me, LDV is a much more economical hunting ground, so I chose to save my dollars.
Maybe I can connect with Carolina in Medellin during my next trip, when she is back to "student" mode and 100mil-150mil seems like a lot. Or not. No worries.
TheShadow2
09-17-13, 02:03
On the beach in Bocagrande I spotted a very cute girl sunbathing. This was not Playa Hollywood, where the prepagos would be expected, but a few breakwaters up. So I didn't know if she was a prepago.
The lounger beside her was empty, so I scanned the water and saw another girl in the waves. Figuring there was a good chance that girl was the lounger-owner, I made my approach.
I had little difficulty striking up a conversation. Soon I was sitting in the sand and we were chatting. I asked where she worked. She answered,"un club." Ahhhh, this is good. Which one?"Pleyclub." Ahhh, this is good but maybe bad, too. Pleyclub is the club where the Secret Service fiasco originated; one can only assume that notoriety has made them more popular than ever.
Carolina was young and slender with a tiny swimsuit that showed off her perfect natural curves. In fact, her bottom was so small that had she not shaved, it would have been indecent. When my eyes accidentally wandered there once too often, she caught me and moved her coverup over her lower body. Busted!
Yes, she was working tonight, together with her girlfriend. They had to report to the club at 7pm. The no-show fee was 250mil. Yes, she was interested in skipping work to have dinner with me. When I acted surprised at the size of the no-show fee, she said it was the best club in the city and if I met her there and wanted takeout, the fee would be 600mil. Yikes! I didn't know if this was all true, but she was a hot Paisa from Medellin, there for two months to work in a top club, so it may well have been.
I got her digits then walked her and her girlfriend (not nearly as hot) to a cab. We made plans to meet at the clock tower (Torre de Reloj) in about two hours.
As I walked back to my hotel, I realized this could be super-costly. I would pay the 250mil no-show fee, maybe 250mil propina to her, plus dinner and drinks for two. We're looking at 600mil. Compare to my trusty LDV girls at 150mil plus 50-100mil in drinks. And I was more confident in their level of service.
One thing I've learned doing this is that there are no sure things. The Pleyclub girl at 600mil might give much worse service than a LDV girl. Or better, but who knows? She was a 9+ in looks, but the level of service was unknown.
I traded text msgs with Carolina over the next two hours. She got off work at 4am = too late. No, she didn't want to go to Playa Blanca the next day, though she says she loves Playa Blanca, because it would mean missing a day of work. She was here for two months to make money. No days off. Or, if she takes days off, not with me. I can respect that. Plus this attitude meant even if we had a great night together, it would be tough to repeat.
I cancelled. Not easy to cancel on this quality of chica, but I think it was the right decision. The rule is: GFE with hot chicas can be found at all price levels. Only pay the highest prices if you have tons of money and little time to hunt. For me, LDV is a much more economical hunting ground, so I chose to save my dollars.
Maybe I can connect with Carolina in Medellin during my next trip, when she is back to "student" mode and 100mil-150mil seems like a lot. Or not. No worries.First, thanks for the ongoing reports. Us guys stuck in the USA have to live vicariously through the guys lucky enough to be in Colombia.
Food for thought considering your experience with "Carolina":
First, you absolutely made the right decision to pass on her. She told you with words and actions that she is a hard-core pro. Her goal is to extract the maximum amount of dinero from her work in Cartagena in the two months she will be there, nothing more, nothing less. She's not looking for a boyfriend, friends, relationships. She's there for money. Having said that, there is no reason to take a girl like this out to drinks and dinner. Why do that? You're just adding to the amount it's going to cost you. She will not give you better service after dinner and drinks. It will be the same, so no reason to go there. You said you estimated it might cost you 600mil, but I can see scenarios that would actually cost you more. You think her going rate is 250mil? What if she told you it was 400? 500? 600? After all, she is skipping a complete night of work at Pleyclub. Who knows what absurd price for the night she would have come up with. What I wish you would have done, is when the conversation on the beach went to dinero, and she started to quote the 250 no show fee, etc that you would have just politely declined right there. The only way we can keep the prices down, is be willing to walk away from the high prices, no matter how hot they are. In her mind, she almost had you paying it, so probably the next guy will. Now, one thing you could have tried, was to offer her 150k at the beach to walk across the street to your apartment, take a quick shower and bang you for an hour. She's already there and would not have to skip work so maybe she could see the value in that, although with "Carolina" it's probably a long shot. But at least that gives her a dose of reality. 150k is what this guy is willing to pay, and if she asks for more, she ends up with nothing.
Just my thoughts amigo, we're all in this together, keep up the reports and enjoy your time in Cartagena.
Archimedes
09-17-13, 06:01
Winding up my first trip to Cartagena, I have a number of thoughts to share.
This is the number one vacation destination in Colombia, by a wide margin. That is, many many Colombian families and couples come here, especially in December. The P2P scene is available (thanks Hillbilly69 for your excellent map) but not a large part of the overall scene.
Due to the demand, hotels are relatively expensive here. I don't know about apartments, but I suspect the same. I paid about 110 USD / night for the Hamption by Hilton Hotel. On the plus side, it has a swimming pool. A rarity. On the negative side, the place is sterile sterile sterile. I won't stay here again.
Is the Hampton girl-friendy? Yes, with mandatory registration at the 16th floor, and with no extra charges. After a ST session, it's a nuisance for the girl to exit, as in the wee hours of the morning the hotel's front door requires a room key to open. That means walking her down to the lobby. Which sucks.
A girl told me the Hilton won't let girls in at all. Super-girl-unfriendly. And she told me other high-end hotels either don't allow girls at all, or have entrance fees.
On the plus side, the Hampton is located smack in the middle of Bocagrande. Perhaps some prefer Laguito which is about a mile away. I liked being within walking distance of Isabellas (breakfast or coffee) , Juan Valdez (coffee) , a couple of casinos, Crepes and Waffles (excellent Colombian chain restaurant) , San Marino restaurant, and half-a-dozen Colombian and American fast-food restaurants. There are several ATMs nearby as well as small drug stores on about every block. As long as you are not out when the sun is strongest between 11am-4pm, it's an easy walk from the Hampton to dozens and dozens of places.
After dark in Cartagena police are to be seen everywhere. That's good, except when they do their routine searches for drugs. I underwent my second one (the first was in Medellin) a few nights ago after leaving LDV with a girl. Our taxi was stopped, I was asked to step out of the taxi, and the policeman went through my pockets very carefully. The girl was not searched.
I found the beach to be too hot until after 4pm. After 4, I would walk from near my hotel to the far end of Hollywood Beach, hang out there for half an hour or an hour, then stroll back shortly before 6pm. I didn't swim at the beach, but wading was pleasant, as the sand bottom is smooth and pleasant-feeling on the feet. I didn't have a girl to go with so I never rode the boat to one of the nearby beaches which are reported to be prettier.
The Bocagrande beach is beset with vendors and massage ladies. I only bought a cap (the sun is strong) and a few waters. I never met the infamous Tony. Nor did I see many prepagos at the beach. Admittedly, I didn't spend a tremendous amount of time there, but the entire "meet girls at the beach for an afternoon romp" was missing for me. Those who are in-the-know can point out what I missed.
Most of the girls I encountered in Cartagena were relatively dark-skinned. For me, Cartagena was not a good place to meet non-pros or tourist girls. They just aren't that hot, and there aren't that many. I don't like the darker-skinned girls as much.
As mentioned in a previous report, I found the LDV girls to be excellent. I got low pricing and great service. Both girls I chose (on different nights) were semi-pros who offered good GFE. One gave the best BBBJ I've had in a long time.
After three weeks in Colombia, I'm a little tired of the P2P scene. I long for some real connection. I think if I stayed here a while I'd make that connection. I've seen a few gringo guys around with super-hot girlfriends. It just takes time, which my 5-day visit did not afford.
I found the girls in Medellin to be much more beautiful than the Cartagenitas. Unlike Cartagena, Medellin is not a tourist city. Yet a growing number of gringos are living there for one reason: Paisas. There's nothing like them elsewhere, from what I've seen. Maybe others who know Colombia better can point out where in Colombia you can find girls to equal the Paisas.
One guy I met told me if you get into the small towns near Medellin, you can find girls that are as beautiful as the ones in Medellin, but with the huge advantage that they almost never see a gringo. So girlfriends are just a smile and a meal away. With perhaps a little "buy yourself something nice" money thrown in.
One caveat: I speak decent Spanish. Colombia P2P would be much more difficult without Spanish. Lots of guys do it, but I don't think they get nearly the service I've gotten, and they probably have to pay more. So start practicing those Hola's before you make a trip here.
On the beach in Bocagrande I spotted a very cute girl sunbathing. This was not Playa Hollywood, where the prepagos would be expected, but a few breakwaters up. So I didn't know if she was a prepago.
The lounger beside her was empty, so I scanned the water and saw another girl in the waves. Figuring there was a good chance that girl was the lounger-owner, I made my approach.
I had little difficulty striking up a conversation. Soon I was sitting in the sand and we were chatting. I asked where she worked. She answered,"un club." Ahhhh, this is good. Which one?"Pleyclub." Ahhh, this is good but maybe bad, too. Pleyclub is the club where the Secret Service fiasco originated; one can only assume that notoriety has made them more popular than ever.
Carolina was young and slender with a tiny swimsuit that showed off her perfect natural curves. In fact, her bottom was so small that had she not shaved, it would have been indecent. When my eyes accidentally wandered there once too often, she caught me and moved her coverup over her lower body. Busted!
Yes, she was working tonight, together with her girlfriend. They had to report to the club at 7pm. The no-show fee was 250mil. Yes, she was interested in skipping work to have dinner with me. When I acted surprised at the size of the no-show fee, she said it was the best club in the city and if I met her there and wanted takeout, the fee would be 600mil. Yikes! I didn't know if this was all true, but she was a hot Paisa from Medellin, there for two months to work in a top club, so it may well have been.
.The 250k no show fee sounds about right. She will probably expect 400k+ too. The only way to make PleyClub chicas work is to see them during the day before work. When you can probably get them for 150k-200k. Otherwise, it is just not worth it.
In a phrase, I like Medellin for living and Cartagena for visiting. That is, Cartagena is a big-time tourist destination. In mid-September, tourism is slow. Sometimes it seems the touts and vendors outnumber the tourists, haha. I'm told it's often much more crowded.
Coming from Medellin, Cartagena is a totally different deal. I should say, Bocagrande and the old city are totally different. Maybe the rest of Cartagena is less touristy. But I only know the tourist areas. I wish I could take the charm of Cartagena and mix it with the beautiful water in Cancun. That would be a world-class tourist destination. As it is, the beach in Cartagena is nothing very nice, and the profusion of locals selling massages, sunglasses, hats, miscellaneous tourist crap, beach food, and who knows what else, makes it less enjoyable. Actually, the beach-side bars are kind of nice. In a down-and-dirty way. No credit cards accepted, hehe...That is the worst way to deal with taxis. Know the rate and confirm before getting in. If they see you as a tourist, they will try to gouge you.
Not sure. It seems like this guy rented it for the weekend. I haven't been there yet, but I guess I could check airbnb and some of the other sites as a reference point. I liked the fact that it was spacious and came with a private pool in the apartment.The guy is trying to teach you how to day trade. This looks like the apartment though: http://www.cartagenafirstamericanrealty.com/en/property/rental/La%20Casa%20Del%20Toro
Black Page
09-17-13, 11:57
Hi all.
Time ago (May 2013) there were some comments about Hampton, new hotel in Bocagrande. Best feature to my eyes was that the reception was at 17th floor, and thus no walk of shame, request of I'd, surcharge for additional guest, etc, on coming back at night or day with some company. 1 or 2 or whatever. Is it still like that? I am planning to try it next time.
I am looking at its photos. It looks terribly cold and impersonal compared to cozy small hotels I am used to go in CTG, but at least I am free to do what I want.
Any recent visitor may comment on it?
Thank you!
Archimedes
09-17-13, 15:46
BP, the Hampton Hilton now requires you to check the girl in at the front desk. They post a hotel employee outside who instructs you to go and check her in at the 17th floor lobby. There was no fee.
The hotel itself is super-sterile. Very American-style with almost no flavor of Colombia.
The big plus for the hotel is the rooftop pool. I used it several times. The views are great and you might get lucky and find some freebie targets there.
I won't stay here again. There are dozens of smaller hotels in this area, no doubt less costly, plus I like apartments. Next time I'll try an apartment near Laguito.
Archimedes
09-17-13, 15:47
In Bocagrande, while hotels seem a little expensive, restaurants are not. There are lots of low-end choices and some good mid-tier choices. In the mid-tier restaurants, the menus look similar (fish, beef, chicken, a little pork, salads) , but the food is well-prepared and tasty.
I even ate lunch twice at the small outdoor restaurant directly across from the Hampton Hotel. For about 15mil (USD $8) I got a large carne asada (skirt steak) , french fries AND rice, and a tomato slice / lettuce mini-salad. Even better was the lemonade, which seems a Cartagena specialty. Everywhere I ate I ordered lemonade, and it was always delicious.
For great food and atmosphere at dinnertime, I took a 7mil cab ride from Bocagrande to Centro Vieja. Besides the appalling Hard Rock Cafe, there are seemingly dozens of romantic restaurants serving excellent food. My favorite was El Balcon de San Diego. If you have a date, try this restaurant then wander the small but beautiful Plaza San Diego afterward. It's what the French Quarter of New Orleans would like to be, if only it were not filled with drunks and idiots (sorry if I am offending the drunks and idiots in the French Quarter).
There is some interesting prepago action in the Centro Vieja, though I did not partake. After approaching one good-looker, I realized she was a he. Retreat, retreat! With more time, I'd probably search around for some gems.
I didn't visit the casas here in Cartagena. Though I like the format, with the ready availability of La Dolce Vida girls and the high level of service I got with them, casas just didn't seem necessary.
Bottom line: IMHO, rule one for Cartagena is bring a novia (gf) or at least a chica (prepago) you really like. It's a couples place. If you fail to comply with rule one (as I did) , you can't go far wrong renting an apartment near Laguito and visiting La Dolce Vida each night about 11pm. The beach is nearby for as much or as little sun as you can handle. If you find a LDV girl you like, and you have the time, take her to the better beaches that are a boat ride away.
The above will be my plan next time I return. Since air fares from Medellin are under $200 USD round trip, I'll make Medellin my base for a while, then occasionally take novia-of-the-week to Cartagena for long weekends.
Remember to skip December in Cartagena as that is when it is crazy-crowded.
Sorry there's not more info about P2P in this post, but I've often benefited from general travel info on this site, so I'm giving back. Also, in response to one of my earlier posts, someone commented that he appreciated the post since he was stuck in sex Prison aka the USA. I want to politely remind everyone that the purpose of this site is NOT to provide vicarious thrills to stay-at-homes. Buy Penthouse and read the letters if that's what you're after. The purpose of this site is to assist those who travel in finding P2P action. The site proved immensely helpful to me during this, my first trip to Colombia. So I'm just paying it forward.
This is my last post about Colombia until I can return again. Which I definitely intend to do. If you can speak some Spanish, it is arguably the premier country in the world for beautiful girls who can be enjoyed for reasonable amounts of money.
Good luck to all!
TheShadow2
09-17-13, 18:18
In Bocagrande, while hotels seem a little expensive, restaurants are not. There are lots of low-end choices and some good mid-tier choices. In the mid-tier restaurants, the menus look similar (fish, beef, chicken, a little pork, salads) , but the food is well-prepared and tasty.
I even ate lunch twice at the small outdoor restaurant directly across from the Hampton Hotel. For about 15mil (USD $8) I got a large carne asada (skirt steak) , french fries AND rice, and a tomato slice / lettuce mini-salad. Even better was the lemonade, which seems a Cartagena specialty. Everywhere I ate I ordered lemonade, and it was always delicious.
For great food and atmosphere at dinnertime, I took a 7mil cab ride from Bocagrande to Centro Vieja. Besides the appalling Hard Rock Cafe, there are seemingly dozens of romantic restaurants serving excellent food. My favorite was El Balcon de San Diego. If you have a date, try this restaurant then wander the small but beautiful Plaza San Diego afterward. It's what the French Quarter of New Orleans would like to be, if only it were not filled with drunks and idiots (sorry if I am offending the drunks and idiots in the French Quarter).
There is some interesting prepago action in the Centro Vieja, though I did not partake. After approaching one good-looker, I realized she was a he. Retreat, retreat! With more time, I'd probably search around for some gems.
I didn't visit the casas here in Cartagena. Though I like the format, with the ready availability of La Dolce Vida girls and the high level of service I got with them, casas just didn't seem necessary.
Bottom line: IMHO, rule one for Cartagena is bring a novia (gf) or at least a chica (prepago) you really like. It's a couples place. If you fail to comply with rule one (as I did) , you can't go far wrong renting an apartment near Laguito and visiting La Dolce Vida each night about 11pm. The beach is nearby for as much or as little sun as you can handle. If you find a LDV girl you like, and you have the time, take her to the better beaches that are a boat ride away.
The above will be my plan next time I return. Since air fares from Medellin are under $200 USD round trip, I'll make Medellin my base for a while, then occasionally take novia-of-the-week to Cartagena for long weekends.
Remember to skip December in Cartagena as that is when it is crazy-crowded.
Sorry there's not more info about P2P in this post, but I've often benefited from general travel info on this site, so I'm giving back. Also, in response to one of my earlier posts, someone commented that he appreciated the post since he was stuck in sex Prison aka the USA. I want to politely remind everyone that the purpose of this site is NOT to provide vicarious thrills to stay-at-homes. Buy Penthouse and read the letters if that's what you're after. The purpose of this site is to assist those who travel in finding P2P action. The site proved immensely helpful to me during this, my first trip to Colombia. So I'm just paying it forward.
This is my last post about Colombia until I can return again. Which I definitely intend to do. If you can speak some Spanish, it is arguably the premier country in the world for beautiful girls who can be enjoyed for reasonable amounts of money. Good luck to all!Archimedes,
Another good report amigo, thanks for sharing. I do want to correct one of your assumptions though- I wrote I was stuck in the USA, but that's only a temporary condition. I was in Cartagena in September, and will be there again in November. I'm there several times a year, and I've been there so many times I've lost count. I look forward to many more trips there. Glad you enjoyed your trip, and hopefully you've got many more to enjoy in your future as well.
That is the worst way to deal with taxis. Know the rate and confirm before getting in. If they see you as a tourist, they will try to gouge you.If you are taking a taxi from within El Laguito / Bocagrande and staying in the area (e. G Hilton to Olimpia 24 supermarket nearby) then there is no need to confirm although it can't hurt I suppose other than making them possibly think you are a tourist. Any longer trips should definitely be confirmed beforehand as you say. Had a bad experience with this 6"8 tall Colombian guy who wanted to charge 60k from Centro to Laguito. 60k! Luckily I speak Spanish and we went to the nearby police for mediation and a 20k fee was decided on.
The guy is trying to teach you how to day trade. This looks like the apartment though:
http://www.cartagenafirstamericanrealty.com/en/property/rental/La
%20Casa%20Del%20ToroThanks. Not sure if that is it, but they have some comparable rentals on that site!
SavePros321
09-18-13, 16:15
Checked out LDV last night around 11 or 12 just to see what was available. Beers were 10k a piece. Had a couple while I surveyed the scene. Maybe about 30 or so girls, a lot of real hotties. I had no intention of taking out any girls from there though, given the ridiculous 100k minimum drink policy. It's just too much of a hassle, and overall cost when you factor in the typical price of the chicas there. It's too bad, because it's a great venue and there were a lot of hot chicas there.So LDV is nothing more than a clip joint now?
That is, until a group of about 10 guys came in together looking like lost sheep. I think they were business guys from the same company, or military guys from Europe. They crowded into a corner, turned inwards on themselves, while the girls in the room waited expectantly for some indication they wanted company. It was hilarious. Some guys have so little game they can't pick up prepagos in a target-rich club like LDV.It's highly likely that what you were seeing here was Israelis. You need to observe more to see them in action before you jump to conclusion, then you see them for what they are. The girls are well onto their stick.
Black Page
09-19-13, 00:04
BP, the Hampton Hilton now requires you to check the girl in at the front desk. They post a hotel employee outside who instructs you to go and check her in at the 17th floor lobby. There was no fee.
The hotel itself is super-sterile. Very American-style with almost no flavor of Colombia.
The big plus for the hotel is the rooftop pool. I used it several times. The views are great and you might get lucky and find some freebie targets there.
I won't stay here again. There are dozens of smaller hotels in this area, no doubt less costly, plus I like apartments. Next time I'll try an apartment near Laguito.I am so disappointed! When I read about this new hotel months ago, I thought I finally found my place. But now it became like all others.
I really HATE to have to pass through the reception and register my guests. Last year, one of my girls was not admitted, because she did not have the I'd with her. And I also was rejected by the same reception, when I came with two girls one afternoon (no way to admit 3 people in a room sold for 2).
How does it work at Hampton? What happens if, after having been directed by that employee, you go straight to the room without stopping at 17th floor?
Did you have any glimpse of their possible reaction, should you arrive with 2 friends instead of 1?
At this point, the only option seem to be an apartment, but also there there is I'd requested at the door.
I am so disappointed! When I read about this new hotel months ago, I thought I finally found my place. But now it became like all others.
I really HATE to have to pass through the reception and register my guests. Last year, one of my girls was not admitted, because she did not have the I'd with her. And I also was rejected by the same reception, when I came with two girls one afternoon (no way to admit 3 people in a room sold for 2).
How does it work at Hampton? What happens if, after having been directed by that employee, you go straight to the room without stopping at 17th floor?
Did you have any glimpse of their possible reaction, should you arrive with 2 friends instead of 1?
At this point, the only option seem to be an apartment, but also there there is I'd requested at the door.That is why I was shocked a couple of months back to hear about a hotel that does not need registration. It's very uncommon. IMO, apartments are the way to go to avoid the "walk of shame" involved with hotels.
You should always go with chicas that have IDs. Make sure they have before you leave to go to your place. I won't even go into why you would want to bring someone back without ID.
If you are taking a taxi from within El Laguito / Bocagrande and staying in the area (e. G Hilton to Olimpia 24 supermarket nearby) then there is no need to confirm although it can't hurt I suppose other than making them possibly think you are a tourist. Any longer trips should definitely be confirmed beforehand as you say. Had a bad experience with this 6"8 tall Colombian guy who wanted to charge 60k from Centro to Laguito. 60k! Luckily I speak Spanish and we went to the nearby police for mediation and a 20k fee was decided on.I suppose you could take a taxi within Laguito / Bocagrande. It is only a 10 minute walk but I was really referring to going to Centro or some place further out. Yes, you don't want to face that situation especially if you don't speak Spanish.
It's highly likely that what you were seeing here was Israelis. You need to observe more to see them in action before you jump to conclusion, then you see them for what they are. The girls are well onto their stick.Did I miss a veiled reference to Israelis? There certainly are a lot of Israelis in Cartagena. I've lost count of how many chicas in Cartagena know Hebrew!
Mojo Bandit
09-19-13, 09:33
In Bocagrande, while hotels seem a little expensive, restaurants are not. There are lots of low-end choices and some good mid-tier choices. In the mid-tier restaurants, the menus look similar (fish, beef, chicken, a little pork, salads) , but the food is well-prepared and tasty.
I even ate lunch twice at the small outdoor restaurant directly across from the Hampton Hotel. For about 15mil (USD $8) I got a large carne asada (skirt steak) , french fries AND rice, and a tomato slice / lettuce mini-salad. Even better was the lemonade, which seems a Cartagena specialty. Everywhere I ate I ordered lemonade, and it was always delicious.
Good luck to all!I thought this was Tripadvisor? But Better!
Did I miss a veiled reference to Israelis? There certainly are a lot of Israelis in Cartagena. I've lost count of how many chicas in Cartagena know Hebrew!Veiled? Quite the opposite. Just info for a first-timer in sorting it out. Cartegena a useful opportunity for Americans who seldom get the chance to observe the Isreali first-hand and form his own opinions. Like the girls have, LOL.
Black Page
09-20-13, 09:48
you should always go with chicas that have ids. make sure they have before you leave to go to your place. i won't even go into why you would want to bring someone back without id.
the reason is very simple: i want it easy and hassle-free.
last year i was with a very nice girl, kind, cheerful, beautiful. when we went back to my hotel i discovered she didn't have the cedula and we weren't allowed to enter my room :mad:
no, she was not a schoolgirl or whatever like that. i think it's ages that there is no such things in cartagena. she was a normal pretty girl around 18-20 from medellin, like others you meet at elektra.
so we had to take a taxi and move to la jaiba. besides the additional cost, it is not the same to go to a motel for sex, or enjoying sleeping at your place with a girl you like.
not having the cedula does not mean a girl is ****. possessing a cedula implies a bureaucratic procedure that not everybody carries in colombia.
to be sincere, i don't understand all this fixation that i notice here about ids. i divide my monger time between south america (colombia mainly) and southeast asia (singapore, kuala lumpur, indonesia), where i go often for work. in singapore, kuala lumpur, or indonesia, no hotel ever asked my guests to show id and register at the front desk. and i am speaking about sheraton and other upper-class hotels, not dicey small places. i come back with my new friends, i say hello to security, and we go to elevator. so simple! no hassle! i like simple life.
finally, cartagena is the first place i ever heard in my life, where if you rent an apartment you are requested to register your guests at the front desk! so, what's the point to rent an apartment?? when i rent an apartment, the apartment is mine and i invite whoever i like, as far as guests are decent, do not make noise or do something that affects negatively the reputation of the building.
ps: is elektra now up and running as at old times? i will be back in december.
Member #4287
09-20-13, 10:09
the reason is very simple: i want it easy and hassle-free.
last year i was with a very nice girl, kind, cheerful, beautiful. when we went back to my hotel i discovered she didn't have the cedula and we weren't allowed to enter my room :mad:
no, she was not a schoolgirl or whatever like that. i think it's ages that there is no such things in cartagena. she was a normal pretty girl around 18-20 from medellin, like others you meet at elektra.
so we had to take a taxi and move to la jaiba. besides the additional cost, it is not the same to go to a motel for sex, or enjoying sleeping at your place with a girl you like.
not having the cedula does not mean a girl is ****. possessing a cedula implies a bureaucratic procedure that not everybody carries in colombia.
to be sincere, i don't understand all this fixation that i notice here about ids. i divide my monger time between south america (colombia mainly) and southeast asia (singapore, kuala lumpur, indonesia) , where i go often for work. in singapore, kuala lumpur, or indonesia, no hotel ever asked my guests to show i'd and register at the front desk. and i am speaking about sheraton and other upper-class hotels, not dicey small places. i come back with my new friends, i say hello to security, and we go to elevator. so simple! no hassle! i like simple life.
ps: is elektra now up and running as at old times? i will be back in december.it is a legal requirement to have a cedula after the age of 18. they are free and you can do almost nothing without one. if you are a foreigner with any type of visa that is good for a year or more. you have 2 weeks after entering colombia to apply for a cedula extraneria.
"every resident of colombia over the age of 14 must bear an identity card (tarjeta de identidad). upon turning 18 every resident must obtain a cédula de ciudadanía, which is the only document that proves the identity of a person for legal purposes. i'd cards must be carried at all times and must be presented to the police or military upon request. if the individual fails to present the i'd card upon request by the police or the military, he / she is most likely going to be detained for 24 hours at a upj (unidad permanente de justicia) even if he / she is not a suspect of any wrongdoing. i'd cards are needed to obtain employment, open bank accounts, obtain a passport, driver's license, military card, to enroll in educational institutions, vote or enter public buildings including airports and courthouses. failure to produce i'd is a misdemeanor punishable with a fine.
id cards are free of charge, and duplicates are also free."
id cards for minors are called contraseńas. as are the temporary id cards given to adults who are waiting for their cedulas if they some how lose their cedulas.
Vegas Jeff
09-20-13, 11:09
The reason is very simple: I want it easy and hassle-free.
Last year I was with a very nice girl, kind, cheerful, beautiful. When we went back to my hotel I discovered she didn't have the cedula and we weren't allowed to enter my room :mad:
No, she was not a schoolgirl or whatever like that. I think it's ages that there is no such things in Cartagena. She was a normal pretty girl around 18-20 from Medellin, like others you meet at Elektra.
Finally, Cartagena is the FIRST PLACE I EVER HEARD in my life, where if you rent an apartment you are requested to register your guests at the front desk! So, what's the point to rent an apartment? When I rent an apartment, the apartment is mine and I invite whoever I like, as far as guests are decent, do not make noise or do something that affects negatively the reputation of the building.If you understand Colombia's attitude towards sex, and the problems that Colombia has in general, this is just nonsense. I have lived in many apartments with security in MDE. Neighbors in buildings are very disrespectful when it comes to noise. The police won't respond to phone calls from security and if they do arrive apartment owners won't open their doors and will continue making noise. This certainly doesn't sound like an environment where registering a guest would be necessary. I have had many girls 18-20 years old and there has never been a question asked. This is what happens when a bunch of tourists overrun a small area and this is what has happened in Cartagena IMO.
Member #4287
09-20-13, 20:53
The reason is very simple: I want it easy and hassle-free.
Finally, Cartagena is the FIRST PLACE I EVER HEARD in my life, where if you rent an apartment you are requested to register your guests at the front desk! So, what's the point to rent an apartment? When I rent an apartment, the apartment is mine and I invite whoever I like, as far as guests are decent, do not make noise or do something that affects negatively the reputation of the building.
PS: is Elektra now up and running as at old times? I will be back in December.Building administrations have incredible amount of power. Most buildings do not require guests to sign in but I have lived in ones that do and they tend to be buildings that allow short term rentals of less than a month.
I lived in a building that used to allow short term rentals of less than a month and then a European guy rented an apartment down the hall and let someone in that stabbed him. He survived but it freaked the neighbors out so bad that they stopped short term rentals of less than a month and now everybody has to sign in regardless.
Greetings,
Can anyone give me a description of the onsite backroom facilities at the Pleyclub? I've done take out but never opted for the in house.
Thanks
El Vagabundo
09-22-13, 00:14
no, she was not a schoolgirl or whatever like that. i think it's ages that there is no such things in cartagena. she was a normal pretty girl around 18-20 from medellin, like others you meet at elektra.
not having the cedula does not mean a girl is ****.she sounds like a nice normal girl that just happens to be a prostitute out hooking with johns at 3:00 in the morning. she looked to be 18 to 20 years old but did not have id. so in summery, a girl, no id, hooker, middle of the night. please, come live on my building, you are just the kind of neighbor i want living next to me.
be serious.
TheShadow2
09-22-13, 03:07
To be the Devil's advocate, the cedula rule most of the time is for your own good. If any chica rips you off, they have her information at the front desk.
Also, remember that there are families living in the apartment buildings in Cartagena, the buildings are not soley there to provide rentals to mongers. Many times those families frown on mongering, so they create rules to slow it down.
Lastly, I never bang a girl without seeing her cedula. If she doesn't have it, we part ways until she does. Just because she looks 18 doesn't mean she's not 17 and a half, and that's a risk I'm not willing to take.
Black Page
09-22-13, 09:38
She sounds like a nice normal girl that just happens to be a prostitute out hooking with Johns at 3:00 in the morning. She looked to be 18 to 20 years old but did not have I'd. So in summery, a girl, no I'd, hooker, middle of the night. Please, come live on my building, you are just the kind of neighbor I want living next to me.
Be serious.You depicted her! I don't understand the "be serious". I am very serious. By the way, I don't like hunting with company. I am a lone wolf.
My first report from CTG was maybe in 2007 or something. I have had so much fun here, that it matches only with what I see in Batam.
My last series of reports from CTG:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2016-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction&p=1364465&viewfull=1#post1364465
This girl is mentioned there (Emily).
I went to CTG also for 3 more days in February, but I did not link the reports to the RoD. I was stuck with one girl all the time (the one I also invited to Medellin, think what!).
Black Page
09-22-13, 09:50
To be the Devil's advocate, the cedula rule most of the time is for your own good. If any chica rips you off, they have her information at the front desk.
Also, remember that there are families living in the apartment buildings in Cartagena, the buildings are not soley there to provide rentals to mongers. Many times those families frown on mongering, so they create rules to slow it down.
Lastly, I never bang a girl without seeing her cedula. If she doesn't have it, we part ways until she does. Just because she looks 18 doesn't mean she's not 17 and a half, and that's a risk I'm not willing to take.I know and I agree with what you say in first 2 paragraphs.
You mean you have a clear conscience if she is 18yo +1day, but you feel guilty if her 18th birthday is the day after? Ethically speaking, I don't see the difference.
She sounds like a nice normal girl that just happens to be a prostitute out hooking with Johns at 3:00 in the morning. She looked to be 18 to 20 years old but did not have I'd. So in summery, a girl, no I'd, hooker, middle of the night. Please, come live on my building, you are just the kind of neighbor I want living next to me.
Be serious.He completely didn't get it. But, nice try. What would happen to senor Blackpage and his cedula-less pick-up should they visit the police stop in Laguito coming back from Elecktra at 3:00? If she doesn't show cedula, or when she shows one with a pre-18-year old feliz cumpleańos?
TheShadow2
09-22-13, 16:44
I know and I agree with what you say in first 2 paragraphs.
You mean you have a clear conscience if she is 18yo +1day, but you feel guilty if her 18th birthday is the day after? Ethically speaking, I don't see the difference.Ethically there may be no difference, but legally, there is. At least for me, as I'm from the USA. According to the United States Department of Justice,"any American citizen or resident who engages in sexual conduct with a minor in a foreign land is subject to federal prosecution."
Member #4244
09-22-13, 17:50
Yeah dude, I am sure the feds will be beating down your door over a tiny cash transaction at 3AM in a foreign country that has rampant and mostly legal prostitution. Get real. It sounds like the guy took a minor ethical risk, but wow is it being blown out of proportion here.
Black Page
09-22-13, 23:52
ethically there may be no difference, but legally, there is. at least for me, as i'm from the usa. according to the united states department of justice,"any american citizen or resident who engages in sexual conduct with a minor in a foreign land is subject to federal prosecution."i have some bad news. being prostitution illegal in all (but one) us states, i am afraid that us citizens can be prosecuted at home also if proven actively engaged in patronizing prostitutes or the like in a foreign country. not to mention the americans i have seen smoking cripa in ctg or mde.
(i checked: in my country, i am not prosecuted if proven having paid for sex in colombia)
however, the discussion is taking a wrong direction. i did not mean to make all this noise, neither i meant to condone wrong behaviours (**** p4p) which - simply stated - are plain against ethics. this does not belong to me.
i began pointing out that ctg is the only place i know in the world, where if you rent an apartment you are still required to register your guests with id, like in a hotel. this sounds unprecedented and frankly astonishing to my ears. and not willing to register with id does not mean necessarily that there is some illegal activity running in background. for example, imagine you go with a married lady. where is the privacy of your guest?
finally, fake cedulas can be bought quite easily in colombia and are not expensive. if a girl is, say, 17 but plans to move from mde to ctg to earn some easy cash, she just has to buy one. seeing a cedula is not enough to be safe, if one is concerned about feds.
TheShadow2
09-23-13, 00:46
i have some bad news. being prostitution illegal in all (but one) us states, i am afraid that us citizens can be prosecuted at home also if proven actively engaged in patronizing prostitutes or the like in a foreign country. not to mention the americans i have seen smoking cripa in ctg or mde.
(i checked: in my country, i am not prosecuted if proven having paid for sex in colombia)
however, the discussion is taking a wrong direction. i did not mean to make all this noise, neither i meant to condone wrong behaviours (**** p4p) which. simply stated. are plain against ethics. this does not belong to me.
i began pointing out that ctg is the only place i know in the world, where if you rent an apartment you are still required to register your guests with i'd, like in a hotel. this sounds unprecedented and frankly astonishing to my ears. and not willing to register with i'd does not mean necessarily that there is some illegal activity running in background. for example, imagine you go with a married lady. where is the privacy of your guest?
finally, fake cedulas can be bought quite easily in colombia and are not expensive. if a girl is, say. 17 but plans to move from mde to ctg to earn some easy cash, she just has to buy one. seeing a cedula is not enough to be safe, if one is concerned about feds.bp,
do you have a link to verify your "bad news"? i spent a while searching the web (even used your direct quote in italics) and found nothing verifying your "news". i did find this though, from a lawyer writing about the cartagena secret service scandal:
"americans who solicit adult prostitutes abroad, in countries where they're legal, generally do not face liability in the united states. (americans who solicit child sex workers, however, have been prosecuted.)"
regardless, i, like you, am tiring of this topic. we all have our own comfort levels. obviously the odds are overwhelming in the mongers favor that no one is going to know or bother prosecuting. if you're comfortable with those odds, carry on. personally, i like to cover all my bases when the possible price i could pay outweighs the benefits.
Mojo Bandit
09-23-13, 10:09
I tried to delete this post after I read that everyone was tired of hearing about it! So I am sorry, but it would not delete
BP,
Do you have a link to verify your "bad news"? I spent a while searching the web (even used your direct quote in italics) and found nothing verifying your "news". I did find this though, from a lawyer writing about the Cartagena Secret Service scandal:
"Americans who solicit adult prostitutes abroad, in countries where they're legal, generally do not face liability in the United States. (Americans who solicit child sex workers, however, have been prosecuted.)"
Regardless, I, like you, am tiring of this topic. We all have our own comfort levels. Obviously the odds are overwhelming in the mongers favor that no one is going to know or bother prosecuting. If you're comfortable with those odds, carry on. Personally, I like to cover all my bases when the possible price I could pay outweighs the benefits.It is not illegal for citizens of United States to solicit prostitutes in countries where it is legal, but it is illegal to travel abroad and have paid sex with a minor. I Know that THeShadow2 is not considering minors so this is not addressed to him. If anyone is considering having sex with a minor (which even discussing the intention is against the forum rules on this site) then the person considering it should read this website; http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/1210/121017washingtondc.htm
Here is the link to the US Code on the Cornell University Law School website http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2423
GucciJayda
09-25-13, 02:32
Hey guys I will be going to CTG for my second time. First time I went was back in 2007 and Mery hooked me up with a great room at Mirador de Laguito. Any info or help on recent activity (Day, street, la termas, LDV) I had a couple great experiences with girls on the street back in 2007 for only 40-80mil pesos for ST! (all 6-8's). And average 125mil pesos ST at any of the clubs (la termas) or like 200mil for a whole day. Now I am hearing about this 300mil pesos 600mil pesos. 200 us dollars ST etc! That is way too high, I can get better in the states.
I already spent a fortune including the flight from east central USA to CTG and for the 7 nights stay. I prefer to use my money wisely and not spend 200mil pesos for ST! Any info on rookie monger appreciated!
Mojo Bandit
09-27-13, 19:13
Hey guys I will be going to CTG for my second time. First time I went was back in 2007 and Mery hooked me up with a great room at Mirador de Laguito. Any info or help on recent activity (Day, street, la termas, LDV) I had a couple great experiences with girls on the street back in 2007 for only 40-80mil pesos for ST! (all 6-8's). And average 125mil pesos ST at any of the clubs (la termas) or like 200mil for a whole day. Now I am hearing about this 300mil pesos 600mil pesos. 200 us dollars ST etc! That is way too high, I can get better in the states.
I already spent a fortune including the flight from east central USA to CTG and for the 7 nights stay. I prefer to use my money wisely and not spend 200mil pesos for ST! Any info on rookie monger appreciated!If you are on a strict budget stay away from LDV, it has gotten bad, drinking minimum is outrageous, for 100 mil or less you are going to have to go for street girls, on spot is the plaza de coches, the benches across from Tu Candela, if you walk in under the clock tower it is to your left, and around the park across the street from the clock tower. During the day you can scour Playa Holywood, but do not use a middle man, my guess is that most chicas who smile at a gringo are working girls
GucciJayda
09-27-13, 22:19
If you are on a strict budget stay away from LDV, it has gotten bad, drinking minimum is outrageous, for 100 mil or less you are going to have to go for street girls, on spot is the plaza de coches, the benches across from Tu Candela, if you walk in under the clock tower it is to your left, and around the park across the street from the clock tower. During the day you can scour Playa Holywood, but do not use a middle man, my guess is that most chicas who smile at a gringo are working girlsThanks Bandit! Wow outrageous. I know LDV was quite expensive in 2007 too. I went once and I never liked it Because there is no point going to LDV money wise IMHO. When I went in 2007, there were street walkers right outside my hotel in laguito, I didn't even need to walk to clock tower or the beach. Times change but I hope it's still a safe and fun trip.
BTW it will be raining all week on and off, where could I find street girls then? Other then the clubs.
Mojo Bandit
09-28-13, 10:15
Thanks Bandit! Wow outrageous. I know LDV was quite expensive in 2007 too. I went once and I never liked it Because there is no point going to LDV money wise IMHO. When I went in 2007, there were street walkers right outside my hotel in laguito, I didn't even need to walk to clock tower or the beach. Times change but I hope it's still a safe and fun trip.
BTW it will be raining all week on and off, where could I find street girls then? Other then the clubs.When I was there in July it rained on and off, sometimes it rained hard for like an hour and then would stop for a while, but I think it does rain more there this time of year. Without going to any clubs the only strategy I could think of would be to catch a taxi to Plaza de Coches at nigh, in between rain pour downs and hang out near the Tu Candela and when it rains there is some shelter since all the buildings have portico on the ground floor, take an umbrella and if you find a chica you can escort her to a taxi
GucciJayda
09-28-13, 14:12
When I was there in July it rained on and off, sometimes it rained hard for like an hour and then would stop for a while, but I think it does rain more there this time of year. Without going to any clubs the only strategy I could think of would be to catch a taxi to Plaza de Coches at nigh, in between rain pour downs and hang out near the Tu Candela and when it rains there is some shelter since all the buildings have portico on the ground floor, take an umbrella and if you find a chica you can escort her to a taxiYes I realized it too late that October is the heavy rain season. Thanks for all your help bud.
Camaro1257
09-29-13, 23:00
i spent 7 days in cartagena in april and 5 days in cali in september, i have done a brief comparison of the 2 cities for your review:
currency:
the colombian peso cop fluctuates daily in comparison to us currency therefore there is no way to predict what the exchange rate will be in the future. in both cartagena and cali you will need to do commerce with cop, i recommend checking your bank exchange rate as well as considering atm fees for the amount of cop needed. you can also exchange us for cop at different locations on the ground in both cities the exchange rate varying from 1600cop-1 us to 1800-1us currently.
note: neither cartagena or cali is like sosua, dominican republic where you can have a level of trust of changing money on the street. under no circumstances would i change money on the street in either city.
lodging:
mirador laquito: (cartagena)
i had an excellent studio apartment for $60. 00 per night. the building is located in laquito. i didn't have a good view but i was more than satisfied for the price. there was a kitchen, dining bar, living room and decent size bedroom all in the same space. the internet was slow sometimes but overall it was pretty efficient. security was on point 24 hours a day. chicas had to sign in with cedula and the front door was always locked, you had to be buzzed in and out by security.
there was no room safe but the building did have a small pool available for the residents. the advantage to the mirador was the location was familiar to all the taxi drivers and there were atm's and restaurants close by within a 10 minute walk.
parceros townhouse: (cali)
the townhouse is located in barrio santa monica residencial which is a quiet neighborhood with several other townhouses on the street. the town house is on the 4th floor which is on the top floor of the building. there are 2 front balconies and 1 rear balcony all of which provide an excellent view. i enjoyed the breeze in the late evening. and there is no elevator so be prepared to exercise. the townhouse is a 2 story with a winding staircase and 2 bedrooms down stairs and 2 bedrooms upstairs. there is a kitchen living room and small den with a television. i was given a key to my room the townhouse and the main door downstairs. the master bedroom was $53. 00 per night which included breakfast. the wi-fi connection was excellent with great speed.
there is no doorman for security you are simply given keys to a double lock downstairs and a door key to the apartment and a separate door key to your room. there is no room safe and the building did not have a pool available for the residents. the advantage to parcero's townhouse is its location. you could do the majority of things you would like to do within a 15 minute radius.
neighborhoods:
laquito in cartagena. had more of a tourist feel with plenty of expensive hotels and restaurants. it was a mixed residential and tourist area with a plethora of apartment buildings. most everything you needed was within a 10 minute walking distance.
barrio santa monica residential in cali. was a very comfortable and safe residential neighborhood. barrio santa monica residential had more of a middleclass neighborhood feel with grocery stores, parks and a mall all within a 15 minute walking distance.
note: both areas were relatively safe and put me in the mind of recoleta, buenas aires, miraflores, lima and poblado, medellin. i walked around the areas during the day and well into the evening with no problems.
weather:
cartagena. the weather during my stay was generally hot and humid throughout since the city is at the mouth of the caribbean sea. it is not un-common to have 95 degree temperatures during the day and it cools down at night to about 75 degrees.
cali- the weather during my stay was quite pleasant, it was about 85 degrees during the day and 70 degrees at night. it was a dry heat with very little humidity so i didn't sweat that much. the early mornings and late evenings were very comfortable. the townhouse is situated at the foot of a hill so parcero would leave the windows open so we could get the breeze of the hill which was quite enjoyable.
transportation:
cartagena- walking was easy to most spots in laquito and boca grand which is the next neighborhood over. taxis to the old city were about $3. 00.
cali- walking was easy to most places in barrio santa monica residencial. all taxis have a meter that is set at the beginning of the trip, most of my trips were less than $3. 00. when i rode to the other side of town i spent around $13. 00. the buses are called mio and you have to buy a electronic debit card that is called a "gane" for $1. 50 and you recharge it at different locations throughout the city. each trip was. 85. the buses were modern clean and air-conditioned.
la comida:
cartagena. there were a variety according to taste but i enjoyed riquisimo's which was within walking distance of my apartment in laquito. the food was good but on the expensive side dishes for $20. 00 or more. there was something for everybody within walking distance. there are more than enough us fast food chains from mcdonalds to burger king because cartagena has more of a tourist flavor.
cali. if you are the type of person who travels to eat at burger king and kentucky fried chicken cali is not the place for you. cali provides an authentic latin american culinary experience. typical foods such as chicken, steak, beans & rice, soups and salads make the staple of the latin american diet. you can eat a hearty meal which includes soup, salad, meat, and 2 sides for between $3. 00. $7. 00 depending on the type of restaurant you are in.
casas de la citas cartagena.
i do not have the exact addresses of the below listed cartagena casas but if you give your taxista the name of the casa and the barrio he should be able to find it. some of these casa are called "the poor man's casas" and some as you can see not so much.
the pley club- location: barrio bosque:
the most expensive casa in cartagena apparently they pay a big tarifa to taxistas. the casa was dark and dingy inside with a bar dance floor and a few chairs. there were chicas sitting outside and a few inside. the average chica was about a 7, i was not impressed!
1 hour 300, 000cop ($158. 00)
los angeles. location: barrio brusseles:
this joint was scary as hell! security is there at the gate which is pad locked. security opens the gate and pad locks it behind you. you walk into a dark house where you can see little of anything what i could see of the chicas the average was a 6.
1 hour 150, 000cop ($79. 00)
chicas linda. barrio bomba del amparo:
chicas linda is next store to chicas rica. chicas linda is nice inside with a wide bar a dance floor and plenty of plastic white chairs to talk to the chicas. the club was well lighted and good for meeting the chicas. the average chica was about a 7. i swore i saw riahnna there she was soooooooooooo fyne it was ridiculous but she looked too mean!
30 minutes 100, 000cop ($53. 00)
empana. location :barrio los alpes:
it was very dark and there were about a half dozen women averaging about a 7 most of them looked board.
30 minutes 150, 000cop ($79. 00)
allondra- barrio los alpes:
this joint was off dah chain! there were so many fyne chicas in there is was ridiculous! the average chica was an 8 like real model types about a dozen were working.
30 minutes 70, 000cop. ($37. 00)
chicas rica- barrio bomba del amparo:
30 minutes 40, 000cop ($21. 00)
casas de la citas-cali.
cali has more casas than you can count and while there are some high end casas there are some excellent tarifas with chicas that rate 7-8 in many of them.
las calenas 2: cra 44 #5b. 79b tequndama.
i saw approximately a half dozen chicas which ranged from 6-8. most of them were glued to their cell phones which were plugged in the wall charging. i was turned off by their in-attentiveness.
1 hour: 90, 000cop ($47. 00)
nuts & bolts (tuercas why tornillos) : calle 17n #5n. 33.
i went to nuts & bolts which is behind a big metal non descript door. you press the button and security opens the door has you face the camera and pats you down. then you stand in the center of the hallway and a chica comes out and pats you down again this time checking your package. about 7 chicas came out none of them were less than a 7 and a couple were pushing 9. the set up here was totally different from calena 2 in that there was no music playing or bar where guys could sit around and talk. you pick the chica you want do the deed then hasta luego. before i left my chica said she had to call down stairs and i spoke with the mamasan who asked me how was my service and i said "esta bien" even though it was average. parcero later told me that nuts & bolts is one of the strictest casas in cali.
1 hour 65000cop ($34. 00)
jc: avenida segunda b norte 34n 55.
the walls were white brick and there were plastic chairs with a small wall fan in the seating area. the chicas presented themselves and all of 5 of them ranged from 7-8 i was impressed with the line up from such a crappy place but they weren't the friendliest group.
1 hour 100000cop ($52. 00)
kaliente calle: 25 norte #2 bis-47.
kaliente wasn't too caliente you walk into a non descript house sit down in the living room and 3 chicas came out and introduced themselves. the chicas ranged between 5-6 and none were very inviting. the increments are as follows:
1 hour 100000cop ($52. 00)
the mediterranean spa: calle 28 norte #4n-72.
this casa had a very nice atmosphere that looked like a spa with comfortable chairs and beautiful pictures of models on the walls. there were 4 chicas who introduced themselves. the chicas ranged between 5-6 and all seemed to be very pleasant and inviting.
1 hour 80000cop ($42. 00)
the deluxe club: calle 5 #65-25.
this casa was very nice inside set up like a club with chairs a dance floor and stripper pole. there were 6 chicas that introduced themselves. most were 6's but there was one that looked like a model who fell out of a magazine she was a 9. this joint was plastic surgery central and some of the women looked like they were ready to explode. the tarifas here were ridiculous in comparison to the other cali casa and not worth the expense imho.
1 hour 250-350cop ($131. 00- $184. 00)
la clinica dr amor: avenida 2n no 23n-23.
this casa was nice inside but it was obvious they were doing some renovations with unfinished paint on the walls. normally they pat you down but since i was with parcero i just got waived through. there is a big living room with several couches and you can be seated and wait for the chicas to come out and introduce themselves. i would rate most of the chicas between 7-8. there were about a dozen chicas present and maybe 1 or 2 were 9's. the tarifas are based on 3 different levels classic, vip and platinum and the chicas wear bands to indicate their status.
1 hour 90000cop ($47. 00)
la picina: next door to jc at avenida segunda b norte 34n 55.
although the talent pool fluctuates this was my favorite casa in cali because of the ambiance. the chicas hang outside and greet you as you walk in. there is a waiting area and a pool area where you sit and wait for the chicas to come out and introduce themselves. everyone i saw was decent ranging from 7-9 and they all seemed to be very pleasant. some casa girls it is obvious they don't want to be there but these girls had a very pleasant disposition.
1 hour 80000cop ($42. 00)
note: always remember that the casa business is a fluid in colombia, casas open and close frequently and the talent pool varies from one day to the next. one day a specific casa may be a gold mine and the next day it may be a salt mine. most casas have take out where you pay a fine and negotiate separately with the chica her tarifa.
other sex venues:
the only sex venues i visited in cali were the casas but in cartagena the sex venues for freelancers are more diverse for example:
la playa:
there are chulos on the beach that can get chicas for you expect to pay a minimum 150, 000 cop for this service and the chicas can range from 5-9 depending on the day of the week. many of the chicas that you see alone or in groups are available a little eye to eye contact and body language should be sufficient to let you know if you should move forward. you can keep your cost less between 100, 000. 150, 000 cop if she insist on more you have met a shark on the beach.
the old city at the clock tower:
activity starts at dark with chicas that range between 5-8. be careful because you will find transvestites and homosexuals in the same area. i wouldn't pay more than 100, 000 cop for any of the chicas in this area regardless as to how beautiful she was.
la dolce vida (ldv) :
the most popular freelance bar in cartagena and for that reason it is plastic surgery central, some of the chicas look like if you stick them with a pin they would pop. in addition you are likely to see the best colombia has to offer because colombianas come from all over the country to work this venue. tarifas range from 150, 000cop- 350, 000cop. personally i wouldn't pay any more than 200, 000cop regardless as to how beautiful she was. it has been reported that ldv had an 80, 000cop drink minimum which can be avoided simply by getting the chicas number and meeting her later.
electrika in the old city:
is a hole in the wall small after hours joint in cartagena that some chicas go to after ldv closes. the tarifas can range from 150, 000cp- 350, 000cop. you have leverage in this venue because it is at the end of the night and if a chica hasn't worked she is more open to negotiation i would stay between 150 200, 000cop. there is also a 80, 000cop drink minimum here that can be avoided by meeting the chica outside separately. if you leave with a chica you will be stopped and asked to any up.
la polica & danger:
always carry a copy of your passport with you because there is a police presence everywhere especially at night. there is no such thing as reasonable articulable suspicion or probable cause in colombia, be prepared!
cartagena. is a the primary tourist destination in colombia and for this reason it has a great police presence. there is a police station in the middle of laquito and road blocks abound especially at night. it is not uncommon to be stopped at a road block or by la policia riding motorcycles and be patted down. if i were you i would avoid party favors it could save you allot of grief. if you are stopped by the la policia you may notice an uncomfortable pause, this is the time were there may be an implicit expectation of a "multa." whether you pay this "multa" or not will depend on what you have been stopped for. if you have done nothing you can simply say "lo siento senor mil disculpes" or just speak in english. be wary of pushy street vendors who wave t-shirts and other objects in your face if you don't want it don't touch it! a simple "estoy bien" or "no gracias" will do.
cali- is not a tourist town so the law enforcement emphasis is different. i noticed just as many la policia en cali as in cartagena but they seemed to be more polite imho. there is a police station in the center of barrio santa monica residential and while police vehicles abound throughout the city i noticed no road blocks during my stay. it not uncommon for the la polica to drive around at night with their red lights flashing therefore most times there will be no reason for alarm.
note:
it might sound obvious, but don't walk around flashing expensive cameras, jewelry, wads of money etc. places like beaches, outside banks and the area around the clock tower are favored pickpocket haunts.
the biggest concern that many people would have with cali is the reputation it shared with medellin in the 1980's-90's with the medellin- cali drug cartels. pablo escobar is dead and although the drug trade is still alive in colombia the government has made significant strides combating the problem. even the problems the government was having with guerillas and para-militaries in the country side has seriously been abated. it is not that there is no threat in colombia it's that the threat is minimal and not a significant reason not to travel to this beautiful country. cali is no utopia by any stretch of the imagination however it is possible to do well with the right strategy.
chicas:
the subject of the most beautiful women in the world can be debated into eternity but i prefer colombianas because of their ethnic diversity. both cities have their share of people of european, indian and african decent which makes for an incredible mix. colombians are truly a hybrid group of people.
observations:
cali was different from cartagena because it is not a tourist town it lacked a beach and in general everything was less expensive. if there was a gringo tax it was hidden unlike cartagena where it is obvious you are getting gouged.
you do not need fluent spanish in cali but it would be advisable to have basic spanish if you should decide to visit as there are not as many english speakers as in cartagena.
since cartagena is a tourist city you will have to deal with touts. touts are people who are trying to get you to buy something from souvenirs to directing you to a casa de cita. touts are annoying as hell and you can simply respond by saying "no gracias."
cartagena and cali have more casa de citas than you can count. in addition they open and close regularly and have varying ebb and flows throughout the course of the week with the weekends being the busiest time. i sense that the facebook, freelance and civilian chica market is very fertile here for a person who has the time to invest.
conclusion:
i have a personal fondness for cartagena because it was the first city i visited in colombia and i made acquaintances there, so i have ties to the city. in addition the old city at night in my opinion is one of the most beautiful cities in the western hemisphere. however, if i had to make a choice between the 2 cities i would choose cali for the below listed reasons:
weather, cartagena is uncomfortably hot and humid and cali is hot during the day but absolutely beautiful at night except during the rainy season.
the gringo tax, almost everything in cartagena is more expensive if you are a gringo. unless you have an inside connection be prepared to pay more. the chicas come from all over colombia for one reason and one reason alone "to get paid!" the same chica you get in cartagena can likely be had in her home town for half the price with a better attitude.
although cali was a big city i found most of the people i met to be more than hospitable, more so than cartagena.
as in all things ymmv i encourage you to visit both cities and make an assessment for yourselves.
DcPlaneGuy
09-30-13, 02:56
Hi guys,
Thanks for the info! I couldn't do much research before I came here as work was hammering me because I was leaving for travel, so now I am ready for my own hammering. Thanks to you guys I have some idea now and will be planning on acting on it.
So LDV is a bar with no rooms etc, whereas a 'casa' has these. Is this correct? But then the hotel gave me a wristband I guess to prevent guests, I'll figure out something.
Silent Monger
10-01-13, 12:19
Hi guys,
Thanks for the info! I couldn't do much research before I came here as work was hammering me because I was leaving for travel, so now I am ready for my own hammering. Thanks to you guys I have some idea now and will be planning on acting on it.
So LDV is a bar with no rooms etc, whereas a 'casa' has these. Is this correct? But then the hotel gave me a wristband I guess to prevent guests, I'll figure out something.Hi DcPlaneGuy,
Yes LDV (La Dolce Vita) is a bar located in a small shopping centre across the road from the Hotel Dann Cartagena in El Laguito. For years (long berore the Secret Service scandal) LDV has been a well known place where foreign tourists go to pick up a pro or semi-pro chica. LDV is not a casa and as such there are no 'sex on premise' facilities there. LDV is about the easiest place to find a chica to get laid in CTG although as many of the more experienced mongers on here can testify the prices can be much more expensive. When you pick up a chica in LDV she will go back to your apartment or hotel room. If your hotel is not chica friendly, or for work / professional reasons you don't want to be seen bringing ladies back to your room then there are other options.
Casas are basically places where you can have sex on the premises with the chica you choose. I have no experience using casas in CTG so I am not the best person to advise you about this. In addition to LDV and casas it is easy to pick up chicas in other areas too. If you are staying in El Laguito then if you sit in front of your hotel or apartment building there is a reasonable chance that at some point you will be approached by ladies asking if you are interested. Another place is the beach during the day, all you literally have to do is stand on the beach and look like a gringo and chances are that you will be approached by chicas or touts offering you chicas. In the evening in the old town there are some opportunities, the plaza near the Puerto del Reloj (the old clock gate) is an area where women will make eye contact or try to attract your attention as you walk past. Across the road from the Puerto del Reloj there is a park in the neighbourhood of Getsemani there are plenty of street walkers, most of these girls were of poorer quality in the looks department, but occassionally you may find a spinner. I would not advise hunting around Getsameni at night, but during the day it is ok.
Essentially LDV is a safe venue in a safe part of town, there is a wide variety of chicas on offer and the quality can be high. But LDV prices can be very high and some of the girls are hardened pros who are more interested in separating you from your cash and then moving onto the next customer, of course you still can have a great experience from LDV. Picking up chicas in the streets and on the beach tends to be much cheaper, some of the girls can also be experts at fleecing tourists so you need to be careful and the quality and variety of the chicas may not be as good as LDV but there are some great exceptions. Now if you pick up a chica from LDV or elsewhere and you cannot go back to your hotel a good option is to use a short-time love hotel. In CTG such places often provide clean and safe facilities, a large bed, shower and small fridge with drinks, they often provide condoms too. I once used a place called Las Dunas, I can't remember the address but maybe there is another monger on here who will know of it, it was clean and inexpensive and discreet, the taxi pulled into a garage right next to the room. A place like this would be a good option for you if your hotel is not chica friendly. All the best and enjoy.
GucciJayda
10-02-13, 04:36
Very good. I arrived here late Saturday night. Prices definitely went up a bit from 2006 which is expected with the rising tourism and safety in Colombia (president). Beautiful woman as always and street walker prepagos easy to find in laguito or bocagrande in the night and day (many of them very beautiful and many not so beautiful). Food used to be around 5k mil pesos for carne asada and now it averages around 15k-20k mil pesos!
I can say my second time here, still only about 5% or less of the residents here speak any english. IMHO it is very hard for a monger that speaks no spanish to get by with good deals and / or without a translator / guide (more $$$). Everyone here always wants to rip off gringos and get propina. Which is likely because many people here just barely make enough money to survive. I speak decent spanish as a second language and am able to get by on my own and negotiate with chicas. IN CTG, almost everything is negotiatable as far as chicas and services go. A lot of street prepagos ask for around 200mil pesos for ST but I am able to haggle down considerably. I do not like using touts because I always end up spending a considerable amount more.
Chicas on the street that are 6-9's I am able to haggle down to only 80-120mil pesos short time. In 2007 it was around 40-80mil pesos. I went to playa de Hollywood a couple times and chicas with a tout I haggled down alltogether for around 120 mil pesos for 7-9's. I think its very hard to get a girl without a tout in playa de Hollywood because there are so many touts everywhere and they act like all the girls are theirs. Girls are beautiful everywhere I go without a doubt. I went to plaza de las coches twice and found some ok / decent girls there for around 100mil pesos short time negotiated of course. Be careful alot of girls are very smart and some of them will try to rob you in your apt when your in the bathroom or not watching. I had one girl from plaza de las coches agree on 50mil pesos for short time and then got bipolar in my apartment and I ended up giving her 20k mil pesos more. Very bad and scary experience, chick seemed normal until we got in my room and she got evil. In 2007, I had two street girls in my apartment and they plotted together to go into my pants and attempt to take my wallet but I caught her and kicked them out. Thats why I do not like more than one girl at a time from my experience.
Casas are way more safe as far as sanitation and chicks go. I went to casa de Rosio's about 20 minutes drive from el Laguito. Beautiful woman! 7-10's. And cheap! I only paid around 100mil pesos for girl and casa but I did buy alot of drinks and a few for the chick.
Careful about buying drogas here! I got searched my second night here by 5 cops on a traffic stop late at night in a taxi right in Bocagrande. They scared the shit out of me and searched me for 15 minutes. Searched my wallet, shoes, pants, shirt, the whole 9 yards. They were so insistent in finding drugs on me. It is not safe to have ANY drugs while in the street atleast! They want to find things on tourists to scare you into paying them alot of money or throwing you in jail! The cops don't play here.
So far pretty good, just need to be very smart here unless you don't care about getting ripped off. Also people here are pretty friendly for the most part but you have to be smart and be on guard at all times.
GucciJayda
10-02-13, 04:49
I also went to a club called Al Oadras (spelling may be off) but it is a casa which is very popular with mainly locals and about 20-25minute drive from el laguito. Women here are beautiful! And they dance and strip full naked! I got one of the most beautiful 18 year old chicks I ever seen here. I spent around 100 mil for the chick and casa but again I did order some drinks here and ended up paying around 200+mil pesos for everything.
I went to LDV around my second night here and just drank some aguardiente and cervesa aguilar and scoped out the scene. Beautiful girls here as always with around 25 chicks. I got a good show and talked to many of the girls who I danced with. However I did not take any of the girls home. Most of the girls here 9-10's and I could not get down to less than 200mil pesos short time. However I did stay there when LDV closed and I think they will end up going for around 100mil pesos.
DcPlaneGuy
10-03-13, 10:55
Hi DcPlaneGuy,
Yes LDV (La Dolce Vita) is a bar located in a small shopping centre across the road from the Hotel Dann Cartagena in El Laguito. For years (long berore the Secret Service scandal) LDV has been a well known place where foreign tourists go to pick up a pro or semi-pro chica. LDV is not a casa and as such there are no 'sex on premise' facilities there. LDV is about the easiest place to find a chica to get laid in CTG although as many of the more experienced mongers on here can testify the prices can be much more expensive. When you pick up a chica in LDV she will go back to your apartment or hotel room. If your hotel is not chica friendly, or for work / professional reasons you don't want to be seen bringing ladies back to your room then there are other options.Hey man thanks alot, that is a great succinct explanation of the situation of here, should be sticky-ed or something.
Summary of my first three days
1st Night. Sunday.
Flew in from Bogota on a long ass international travel, and started feeling queasy so had a long nap. When I was up and about in the evening and decided to go to Casia Rocio. However the cab driver was a woman, so I felt uneasy to tell her where to go and the only thing that came to mind was Centro and then Cafe Del Mar. Get there have 2 whiskey-cokes, keep checking out a table with 2 hot babes and just before closing time at midnight they wave me over. One speaks English the other doesn't. (I've got like 2% Spanish, and that's from my basic French and common culture, so it has been a handicap so far.) Play dumb but figure they've got to be pros, they suggest going to TuCandelaBar, and that definitely seals it. We get there, I get a bottle and have fun with both of them, dancing etc. So at the end of the bottle the main girl suggests partying with both of them. I was staying at a hotel so had to go to a nearby love motel, and had a threesome. So pretty good! 300K for each and 88K for bottle and 70K for hotel.
Day 2-
Jetlagged and / or dehydrated. Chug Gatorades, evening is a pass.
Day 3.
Walked around the beach, pretty crap really, did get hollered by a Tony. Got hustled by some crab leg dudes.
In the evening tried to go to an actual Colombian restaurant at Centro, but since some of the roads are closed for pedestrian access, the taxi couldn't take me all the way. Walked around and ended up and found my first non-working hotties there. 2 waitresses.
After that got a cab to Casa Rosario (Rocio) but got strongly encouraged by the cab driver to go to Pleyclub insead. So this fits in with the presumption of them getting good commission there. Got there and got shown in by an english speaking worker. It was a weird set-up, several garden tables and chairs and a row of like 15 chairs with the hotties sitting on them. Didn't know the action plan there, now I know you were just supposed to go them and either invite to table / action room. After 2 beers I went up to the dude and he took me to the girls and told me to pick. I had my eyes on an Emilia Clarke (from Game of Thrones) but some dude was on her so had to pick someone else, picked a short girl with a butt that stuck out. She was alright but probably was a mistake. 200K ST.
After that went to my newly found apartment (thanks to the apartment thread) showered and went towards LDV around 12. Before I went in I spotted a cute faced meaty beauty, talked to her, brought her over. That was fun. 200K ST.
DcPlaneGuy
10-03-13, 11:05
Had a late start for dinner etc but nothing in between, meaning that I was walking back home and it was 11:10pm so decided to go to LDV and actually see the inside of it, and boy is it a strange place, but interesting.
Had a drink and then starting speaking to one short skinny girl dancing next to me, had some kinda English. Had a few more drinks, and agreed to leave for 400K for 4 hours but then she also said all night, so the TLN is what I would like to do in this trip, and she got me there. She was a little too chatty and a little annoying, and some ridiculously hot girls had arrived, so started doubting it but went with her anyway, figure some anger fuck would be nice. Got back home, danced, drank and fucked, it was really fun.
Then she wanted to snuggle and watch some shit on her phone, after a while I tried for round 2 and she was like no I'm tired and said something like even if it's for all night, guys can only fuck once, so that really confused me. I guess she taught I wanted the GFE experience!
I admit I'm young and dumb and naive, but all this in Colombia is new to me, so I figure live and learn. I live in Korea, so I figure my next trip is Phuket, to avoid some of this BS.
So my question, even if you get a girl all night, would I be able to do it however times I want? I mean it would probably be just twice but I would like the option. And what is the wording for this agreement, all night until breakfast / lunch?
Thanks
GucciJayda
10-04-13, 03:53
Hey man thanks alot, that is a great succinct explanation of the situation of here, should be sticky-ed or something.
Summary of my first three days
1st Night. Sunday.
Flew in from Bogota on a long ass international travel, and started feeling queasy so had a long nap. When I was up and about in the evening and decided to go to Casia Rocio. However the cab driver was a woman, so I felt uneasy to tell her where to go and the only thing that came to mind was Centro and then Cafe Del Mar. Get there have 2 whiskey-cokes, keep checking out a table with 2 hot babes and just before closing time at midnight they wave me over. One speaks English the other doesn't. (I've got like 2% Spanish, and that's from my basic French and common culture, so it has been a handicap so far.) Play dumb but figure they've got to be pros, they suggest going to TuCandelaBar, and that definitely seals it. We get there, I get a bottle and have fun with both of them, dancing etc. So at the end of the bottle the main girl suggests partying with both of them. I was staying at a hotel so had to go to a nearby love motel, and had a threesome. So pretty good! 300K for each and 88K for bottle and 70K for hotel...You paid 300mil pesos short time for each girl? Thats 600mil pesos altogether around $350 us dollars! For one fuky fuky thats a lot! This is why girls keep asking for a lot of money because they think they can get it from gringos. But that happens especially since your Spanish is limited to 2. TLN means Todas Las Noches (the whole night) and your supposed to be able to fuky fuky as much as you want the whole night bro not only one time! No exceptions. Pleyclub is the most expensive casa here but 200k ST isn't bad I think.
DcPlaneGuy
10-04-13, 10:32
Late night 5:
All I took from this experience is to lose weight and try this threesome business again, and even then it'll probably never happen again. So good luck and all to you folk. I give up.
DcPlaneGuy
10-05-13, 10:16
Apologies about previous post, one should not post at late night and while intoxicated. I was pissed off but more frustrated, of dealing with money grabbing working girls instead of cum guzzling working girls. I hadn't detailed too much of my first night threesome, which actually was one of the best nights of my life to avoid jinxing it, but it got jinxed anyway. So I tried to repeat the same feat last night, but they just screwed me over. Ah well, I'm going to have to be working overtime for the next few months anyway.
NIGHT 6 (Final Night in Cartagena):
Anyway I almost didn't go out but fought through it and went to Cafe Del Mar which had good civilian potential but the slight rain drove the people away. Decided to go to Isis Club (supposedly strip club) to see some boobies but apparently just like Rosario's (Rocio) House this place had a stripper pole but no dancing girls. Again just a place to drink with the working girls and take them home. Decided to skip it and go home, but on the way went to LDV and started just sitting at the benches. Sat a while to get individual girls but didn't happen, and even this one crazy old dude came by telling some preposterous stories, but surprisingly had decent English.
Decided I'd had enough listening to this guy and made a move on 2 girls sitting and chatting, sat with them, barely any English spoken, agreed on 150K each for ST and went home for a simple, easy threesome to cap my time here. I guess it helped that by this point I didn't care about anything happening.
So in summary, it was a decent trip, but it definitely helps to have Spanish here because you get hustled at every step.
Hilltopper
10-07-13, 01:41
Apologies about previous post, one should not post at late night and while intoxicated. I was pissed off but more frustrated, of dealing with money grabbing working girls instead of cum guzzling working girls. I hadn't detailed too much of my first night threesome, which actually was one of the best nights of my life to avoid jinxing it, but it got jinxed anyway. So I tried to repeat the same feat last night, but they just screwed me over. Ah well, I'm going to have to be working overtime for the next few months anyway.
NIGHT 6 (Final Night in Cartagena) :
Anyway I almost didn't go out but fought through it and went to Cafe Del Mar which had good civilian potential but the slight rain drove the people away. Decided to go to Isis Club (supposedly strip club) to see some boobies but apparently just like Rosario's (Rocio) House this place had a stripper pole but no dancing girls. Again just a place to drink with the working girls and take them home. Decided to skip it and go home, but on the way went to LDV and started just sitting at the benches. Sat a while to get individual girls but didn't happen, and even this one crazy old dude came by telling some preposterous stories, but surprisingly had decent English.
Decided I'd had enough listening to this guy and made a move on 2 girls sitting and chatting, sat with them, barely any English spoken, agreed on 150K each for ST and went home for a simple, easy threesome to cap my time here. I guess it helped that by this point I didn't care about anything happening.
So in summary, it was a decent trip, but it definitely helps to have Spanish here because you get hustled at every step.The old dude outside LDV with the stories: you met Nelson.
Member #4244
10-07-13, 07:14
i spent 7 days in cartagena in april and 5 days in cali in september, i have done a brief comparison of the 2 cities for your review:
currency:
the colombian peso cop fluctuates daily in comparison to us currency therefore there is no way to predict what the exchange rate will be in the future. in both cartagena and cali you will need to do commerce with cop, i recommend checking your bank exchange rate as well as considering atm fees for the amount of cop needed. you can also exchange us for cop at different locations on the ground in both cities the exchange rate varying from 1600cop-1 us to 1800-1us currently.
note: neither cartagena or cali is like sosua, dominican republic where you can have a level of trust of changing money on the street. under no circumstances would i change money on the street in either city.
lodging:
mirador laquito: (cartagena)
i had an excellent studio apartment for $60. 00 per night. the building is located in laquito. i didn't have a good view but i was more than satisfied for the price. there was a kitchen, dining bar, living room and decent size bedroom all in the same space. the internet was slow sometimes but overall it was pretty efficient. security was on point 24 hours a day. chicas had to sign in with cedula and the front door was always locked, you had to be buzzed in and out by security.
there was no room safe but the building did have a small pool available for the residents. the advantage to the mirador was the location was familiar to all the taxi drivers and there were atm's and restaurants close by within a 10 minute walk.
parceros townhouse: (cali)
the townhouse is located in barrio santa monica residencial which is a quiet neighborhood with several other townhouses on the street. the town house is on the 4th floor which is on the top floor of the building. there are 2 front balconies and 1 rear balcony all of which provide an excellent view. i enjoyed the breeze in the late evening. and there is no elevator so be prepared to exercise. the townhouse is a 2 story with a winding staircase and 2 bedrooms down stairs and 2 bedrooms upstairs. there is a kitchen living room and small den with a television. i was given a key to my room the townhouse and the main door downstairs. the master bedroom was $53. 00 per night which included breakfast. the wi-fi connection was excellent with great speed.
there is no doorman for security you are simply given keys to a double lock downstairs and a door key to the apartment and a separate door key to your room. there is no room safe and the building did not have a pool available for the residents. the advantage to parcero's townhouse is its location. you could do the majority of things you would like to do within a 15 minute radius.
neighborhoods:
laquito in cartagena. had more of a tourist feel with plenty of expensive hotels and restaurants. it was a mixed residential and tourist area with a plethora of apartment buildings. most everything you needed was within a 10 minute walking distance.
barrio santa monica residential in cali. was a very comfortable and safe residential neighborhood. barrio santa monica residential had more of a middleclass neighborhood feel with grocery stores, parks and a mall all within a 15 minute walking distance.
note: both areas were relatively safe and put me in the mind of recoleta, buenas aires, miraflores, lima and poblado, medellin. i walked around the areas during the day and well into the evening with no problems.
weather:
cartagena. the weather during my stay was generally hot and humid throughout since the city is at the mouth of the caribbean sea. it is not un-common to have 95 degree temperatures during the day and it cools down at night to about 75 degrees.
cali- the weather during my stay was quite pleasant, it was about 85 degrees during the day and 70 degrees at night. it was a dry heat with very little humidity so i didn't sweat that much. the early mornings and late evenings were very comfortable. the townhouse is situated at the foot of a hill so parcero would leave the windows open so we could get the breeze of the hill which was quite enjoyable.
transportation:
cartagena- walking was easy to most spots in laquito and boca grand which is the next neighborhood over. taxis to the old city were about $3. 00.
cali- walking was easy to most places in barrio santa monica residencial. all taxis have a meter that is set at the beginning of the trip, most of my trips were less than $3. 00. when i rode to the other side of town i spent around $13. 00. the buses are called mio and you have to buy a electronic debit card that is called a "gane" for $1. 50 and you recharge it at different locations throughout the city. each trip was. 85. the buses were modern clean and air-conditioned.
la comida:
cartagena. there were a variety according to taste but i enjoyed riquisimo's which was within walking distance of my apartment in laquito. the food was good but on the expensive side dishes for $20. 00 or more. there was something for everybody within walking distance. there are more than enough us fast food chains from mcdonalds to burger king because cartagena has more of a tourist flavor.
cali. if you are the type of person who travels to eat at burger king and kentucky fried chicken cali is not the place for you. cali provides an authentic latin american culinary experience. typical foods such as chicken, steak, beans & rice, soups and salads make the staple of the latin american diet. you can eat a hearty meal which includes soup, salad, meat, and 2 sides for between $3. 00. $7. 00 depending on the type of restaurant you are in.
casas de la citas cartagena.
i do not have the exact addresses of the below listed cartagena casas but if you give your taxista the name of the casa and the barrio he should be able to find it. some of these casa are called "the poor man's casas" and some as you can see not so much.
the pley club- location: barrio bosque:
the most expensive casa in cartagena apparently they pay a big tarifa to taxistas. the casa was dark and dingy inside with a bar dance floor and a few chairs. there were chicas sitting outside and a few inside. the average chica was about a 7, i was not impressed!
1 hour 300, 000cop ($158. 00)
los angeles. location: barrio brusseles:
this joint was scary as hell! security is there at the gate which is pad locked. security opens the gate and pad locks it behind you. you walk into a dark house where you can see little of anything what i could see of the chicas the average was a 6.
1 hour 150, 000cop ($79. 00)
chicas linda. barrio bomba del amparo:
chicas linda is next store to chicas rica. chicas linda is nice inside with a wide bar a dance floor and plenty of plastic white chairs to talk to the chicas. the club was well lighted and good for meeting the chicas. the average chica was about a 7. i swore i saw riahnna there she was soooooooooooo fyne it was ridiculous but she looked too mean!
30 minutes 100, 000cop ($53. 00)
empana. location :barrio los alpes:
it was very dark and there were about a half dozen women averaging about a 7 most of them looked board.
30 minutes 150, 000cop ($79. 00)
allondra- barrio los alpes:
this joint was off dah chain! there were so many fyne chicas in there is was ridiculous! the average chica was an 8 like real model types about a dozen were working.
30 minutes 70, 000cop. ($37. 00)
chicas rica- barrio bomba del amparo:
30 minutes 40, 000cop ($21. 00)
casas de la citas-cali.
cali has more casas than you can count and while there are some high end casas there are some excellent tarifas with chicas that rate 7-8 in many of them.
las calenas 2: cra 44 #5b. 79b tequndama.
i saw approximately a half dozen chicas which ranged from 6-8. most of them were glued to their cell phones which were plugged in the wall charging. i was turned off by their in-attentiveness.
1 hour: 90, 000cop ($47. 00)
nuts & bolts (tuercas why tornillos) : calle 17n #5n. 33.
i went to nuts & bolts which is behind a big metal non descript door. you press the button and security opens the door has you face the camera and pats you down. then you stand in the center of the hallway and a chica comes out and pats you down again this time checking your package. about 7 chicas came out none of them were less than a 7 and a couple were pushing 9. the set up here was totally different from calena 2 in that there was no music playing or bar where guys could sit around and talk. you pick the chica you want do the deed then hasta luego. before i left my chica said she had to call down stairs and i spoke with the mamasan who asked me how was my service and i said "esta bien" even though it was average. parcero later told me that nuts & bolts is one of the strictest casas in cali.
1 hour 65000cop ($34. 00)
jc: avenida segunda b norte 34n 55.
the walls were white brick and there were plastic chairs with a small wall fan in the seating area. the chicas presented themselves and all of 5 of them ranged from 7-8 i was impressed with the line up from such a crappy place but they weren't the friendliest group.
1 hour 100000cop ($52. 00)
kaliente calle: 25 norte #2 bis-47.
kaliente wasn't too caliente you walk into a non descript house sit down in the living room and 3 chicas came out and introduced themselves. the chicas ranged between 5-6 and none were very inviting. the increments are as follows:
1 hour 100000cop ($52. 00)
the mediterranean spa: calle 28 norte #4n-72.
this casa had a very nice atmosphere that looked like a spa with comfortable chairs and beautiful pictures of models on the walls. there were 4 chicas who introduced themselves. the chicas ranged between 5-6 and all seemed to be very pleasant and inviting.
1 hour 80000cop ($42. 00)
the deluxe club: calle 5 #65-25.
this casa was very nice inside set up like a club with chairs a dance floor and stripper pole. there were 6 chicas that introduced themselves. most were 6's but there was one that looked like a model who fell out of a magazine she was a 9. this joint was plastic surgery central and some of the women looked like they were ready to explode. the tarifas here were ridiculous in comparison to the other cali casa and not worth the expense imho.
1 hour 250-350cop ($131. 00- $184. 00)
la clinica dr amor: avenida 2n no 23n-23.
this casa was nice inside but it was obvious they were doing some renovations with unfinished paint on the walls. normally they pat you down but since i was with parcero i just got waived through. there is a big living room with several couches and you can be seated and wait for the chicas to come out and introduce themselves. i would rate most of the chicas between 7-8. there were about a dozen chicas present and maybe 1 or 2 were 9's. the tarifas are based on 3 different levels classic, vip and platinum and the chicas wear bands to indicate their status.
1 hour 90000cop ($47. 00)
la picina: next door to jc at avenida segunda b norte 34n 55.
although the talent pool fluctuates this was my favorite casa in cali because of the ambiance. the chicas hang outside and greet you as you walk in. there is a waiting area and a pool area where you sit and wait for the chicas to come out and introduce themselves. everyone i saw was decent ranging from 7-9 and they all seemed to be very pleasant. some casa girls it is obvious they don't want to be there but these girls had a very pleasant disposition.
1 hour 80000cop ($42. 00)
note: always remember that the casa business is a fluid in colombia, casas open and close frequently and the talent pool varies from one day to the next. one day a specific casa may be a gold mine and the next day it may be a salt mine. most casas have take out where you pay a fine and negotiate separately with the chica her tarifa.
other sex venues:
the only sex venues i visited in cali were the casas but in cartagena the sex venues for freelancers are more diverse for example:
la playa:
there are chulos on the beach that can get chicas for you expect to pay a minimum 150, 000 cop for this service and the chicas can range from 5-9 depending on the day of the week. many of the chicas that you see alone or in groups are available a little eye to eye contact and body language should be sufficient to let you know if you should move forward. you can keep your cost less between 100, 000. 150, 000 cop if she insist on more you have met a shark on the beach.
the old city at the clock tower:
activity starts at dark with chicas that range between 5-8. be careful because you will find transvestites and homosexuals in the same area. i wouldn't pay more than 100, 000 cop for any of the chicas in this area regardless as to how beautiful she was.
la dolce vida (ldv) :
the most popular freelance bar in cartagena and for that reason it is plastic surgery central, some of the chicas look like if you stick them with a pin they would pop. in addition you are likely to see the best colombia has to offer because colombianas come from all over the country to work this venue. tarifas range from 150, 000cop- 350, 000cop. personally i wouldn't pay any more than 200, 000cop regardless as to how beautiful she was. it has been reported that ldv had an 80, 000cop drink minimum which can be avoided simply by getting the chicas number and meeting her later.
electrika in the old city:
is a hole in the wall small after hours joint in cartagena that some chicas go to after ldv closes. the tarifas can range from 150, 000cp- 350, 000cop. you have leverage in this venue because it is at the end of the night and if a chica hasn't worked she is more open to negotiation i would stay between 150 200, 000cop. there is also a 80, 000cop drink minimum here that can be avoided by meeting the chica outside separately. if you leave with a chica you will be stopped and asked to any up.
la polica & danger:
always carry a copy of your passport with you because there is a police presence everywhere especially at night. there is no such thing as reasonable articulable suspicion or probable cause in colombia, be prepared!
cartagena. is a the primary tourist destination in colombia and for this reason it has a great police presence. there is a police station in the middle of laquito and road blocks abound especially at night. it is not uncommon to be stopped at a road block or by la policia riding motorcycles and be patted down. if i were you i would avoid party favors it could save you allot of grief. if you are stopped by the la policia you may notice an uncomfortable pause, this is the time were there may be an implicit expectation of a "multa." whether you pay this "multa" or not will depend on what you have been stopped for. if you have done nothing you can simply say "lo siento senor mil disculpes" or just speak in english. be wary of pushy street vendors who wave t-shirts and other objects in your face if you don't want it don't touch it! a simple "estoy bien" or "no gracias" will do.
cali- is not a tourist town so the law enforcement emphasis is different. i noticed just as many la policia en cali as in cartagena but they seemed to be more polite imho. there is a police station in the center of barrio santa monica residential and while police vehicles abound throughout the city i noticed no road blocks during my stay. it not uncommon for the la polica to drive around at night with their red lights flashing therefore most times there will be no reason for alarm.
note:
it might sound obvious, but don't walk around flashing expensive cameras, jewelry, wads of money etc. places like beaches, outside banks and the area around the clock tower are favored pickpocket haunts.
the biggest concern that many people would have with cali is the reputation it shared with medellin in the 1980's-90's with the medellin- cali drug cartels. pablo escobar is dead and although the drug trade is still alive in colombia the government has made significant strides combating the problem. even the problems the government was having with guerillas and para-militaries in the country side has seriously been abated. it is not that there is no threat in colombia it's that the threat is minimal and not a significant reason not to travel to this beautiful country. cali is no utopia by any stretch of the imagination however it is possible to do well with the right strategy.
chicas:
the subject of the most beautiful women in the world can be debated into eternity but i prefer colombianas because of their ethnic diversity. both cities have their share of people of european, indian and african decent which makes for an incredible mix. colombians are truly a hybrid group of people.
observations:
cali was different from cartagena because it is not a tourist town it lacked a beach and in general everything was less expensive. if there was a gringo tax it was hidden unlike cartagena where it is obvious you are getting gouged.
you do not need fluent spanish in cali but it would be advisable to have basic spanish if you should decide to visit as there are not as many english speakers as in cartagena.
since cartagena is a tourist city you will have to deal with touts. touts are people who are trying to get you to buy something from souvenirs to directing you to a casa de cita. touts are annoying as hell and you can simply respond by saying "no gracias."
cartagena and cali have more casa de citas than you can count. in addition they open and close regularly and have varying ebb and flows throughout the course of the week with the weekends being the busiest time. i sense that the facebook, freelance and civilian chica market is very fertile here for a person who has the time to invest.
conclusion:
i have a personal fondness for cartagena because it was the first city i visited in colombia and i made acquaintances there, so i have ties to the city. in addition the old city at night in my opinion is one of the most beautiful cities in the western hemisphere. however, if i had to make a choice between the 2 cities i would choose cali for the below listed reasons:
weather, cartagena is uncomfortably hot and humid and cali is hot during the day but absolutely beautiful at night except during the rainy season.
the gringo tax, almost everything in cartagena is more expensive if you are a gringo. unless you have an inside connection be prepared to pay more. the chicas come from all over colombia for one reason and one reason alone "to get paid!" the same chica you get in cartagena can likely be had in her home town for half the price with a better attitude.
although cali was a big city i found most of the people i met to be more than hospitable, more so than cartagena.
as in all things ymmv i encourage you to visit both cities and make an assessment for yourselves.great find with allondra. i would like to nominate this as a report of distinction
World Travel 69
10-07-13, 14:36
Would someone please find the exact location and the rest of the info for these places?
Barrio Los Alpes-North of Bomba Esso, El Amparo
1. Allondra, ____. __ Chicas. Prices: 70k 30 min. Tel: ___. Hours: ____.
2. Empana, _____. 6+ Chicas. Prices: 150k 30 min. Tel: ___. Hours: ____.
This one also:
Location ?
1. Club Al Oadras, _____. __ Chicas. Prices: 200k 30 min. Tel: ____. Hours: _____.
Great find with allondra. I would like to nominate this as a report of distinction
Capistrano
10-09-13, 17:48
You paid 300mil pesos short time for each girl? Thats 600mil pesos altogether around $350 us dollars! For one fuky fuky thats a lot! This is why girls keep asking for a lot of money because they think they can get it from gringos. But that happens especially since your Spanish is limited to 2. TLN means Todas Las Noches (the whole night) and your supposed to be able to fuky fuky as much as you want the whole night bro not only one time! No exceptions. Pleyclub is the most expensive casa here but 200k ST isn't bad I think.That's true its really expensive and besides there are plenty of girls right there with cheap prices but quality performance. These girls take advantage on tourists.
Mojo Bandit
10-13-13, 10:41
Then she wanted to snuggle and watch some shit on her phone, after a while I tried for round 2 and she was like no I'm tired and said something like even if it's for all night, guys can only fuck once, so that really confused me. I guess she taught I wanted the GFE experience!
I admit I'm young and dumb and naive, but all this in Colombia is new to me, so I figure live and learn. I live in Korea, so I figure my next trip is Phuket, to avoid some of this BS.
So my question, even if you get a girl all night, would I be able to do it however times I want? I mean it would probably be just twice but I would like the option. And what is the wording for this agreement, all night until breakfast / lunch?
ThanksThat girl was wrong wrong wrong, and she would have tried that shit with anybody it wasn't just because you, or because she thought you were dumb or naive the second she said no, I would have offered her 150 mil and asked her to leave, or stay and have sex all night for the price agreed, or offered the 150 mil and told her I was going to Electra to find a real woman. She agreed to all night then she agreed to sex all night. It is hard to know what is right and what is not right, and you should agree on even the details before you agree to go with the girl just because these individual women will try this shit!
You mentioned Phuket, which is great, YOU WILL LOVE IT, I was in Patong Beach, Bangla Road (Heaven on Earth but the chics with nice tits are hard to find) , and I had sort of a bad experience with a girl, she was soooo fucking gorgeous and had a body more like a colombiana than a thai, but first she had to eat, so I took her someplace to eat, that when we got to my apartment she wanted to play on facebook for an hour to "catch up" becuase she didn't own a computer, and than of course all Thais shower before and after sex, which is fine of course, but from the time I picked this little honey up from Bangal Road, and got to see her naked was like two and half hours, the upside was that she did stay all night, and I hit it in the morning. The only down side to me about Thailand is that i do not like the ultra skinny woman with the small breast thing, but there are some exceptions, I found a few. The prices and variety are outrageously better than Cartagena. But I love Cartagena and live a 20 hour $2000 dollar plane ride from Thailand.
. especially since your Spanish is limited to 2. TLN means Todas Las Noches (the whole night) .Well almost, TLN means 'Toda la noche' (kill the s's) LOL, otherwise you'd be referring to every night.
Have fun!
Hi Guys,
Off to Cartagena and Medellin for the first time next year (July) and am curious as to how this is policed? I assume they just charge you 100k on entry to LDV then?
What percentage of girls speak English in places like LDV would you say?
Thanks in advance.
Mojo Bandit
10-14-13, 04:11
Get there have 2 whiskey-cokes, keep checking out a table with 2 hot babes and just before closing time at midnight they wave me over. One speaks English the other doesn't. (I've got like 2% Spanish, and that's from my basic French and common culture, so it has been a handicap so far.) Play dumb but figure they've got to be pros, they suggest going to TuCandelaBar, and that definitely seals it. We get there, I get a bottle and have fun with both of them, dancing etc. So at the end of the bottle the main girl suggests partying with both of them. I was staying at a hotel so had to go to a nearby love motel, and had a threesome. So pretty good! 300K for each and 88K for bottle and 70K for hotel.
D.I notices that some mongers were giving you a hard time about paying the two Hot Babes from Cafe Del Mar 300K each, I would put this into perspective. How many guys do you know personally that have had a threesome with two Hot Colombian Babes.
For us guys who make regular (or for me. Semi regular) trips to monger, price is important because you need to get the most for your money, and yes some complain because when guys do not know better or do hot care how much they spend, it sets a precedence for girls to ask for more money, but in your case if you put it in perspective, you had a great experience for your money.
Ricardo Torres
10-14-13, 04:32
Hi Guys,
Off to Cartagena and Medellin for the first time next year (July) and am curious as to how this is policed? I assume they just charge you 100k on entry to LDV then?
What percentage of girls speak English in places like LDV would you say?
Thanks in advance.No entry fee to enter LDV. They will monitor your bill for drinks.
English speakers are very slim and none.
Suggestion if you do not speak spanish is for you to change your destination, or go to directly to Medellin and stay at the Gringo house. (Medellin Plaza or El Castillo)
Mojo Bandit
10-14-13, 04:37
Beautiful woman as always and street walker prepagos easy to find in laguito or bocagrande in the night and day (many of them very beautiful and many not so beautiful).
A lot of street prepagos ask for around 200mil pesos for ST but I am able to haggle down considerably. I do not like using touts because I always end up spending a considerable amount more.
I think its very hard to get a girl without a tout in playa de Hollywood because there are so many touts everywhere and they act like all the girls are theirs. I went to plaza de las coches twice and found some ok / decent girls there for around 100mil pesos short time negotiated of course.
Careful about buying drogas here! I got searched my second night here by 5 cops on a traffic stop late at night in a taxi right in Bocagrande. They scared the shit out of me and searched me for 15 minutes. Searched my wallet, shoes, pants, shirt, the whole 9 yards. They were so insistent in finding drugs on me. It is not safe to have ANY drugs while in the street atleast! They want to find things on tourists to scare you into paying them alot of money or throwing you in jail! The cops don't play here.What is the Rain situation been like your you? Does it rain all day? Does it rain every day? Does it rain part of the day?
Where are you finding the street chicas in El Laguito and Bocagrande?
Had a late start for dinner etc but nothing in between, meaning that I was walking back home and it was 11:10pm so decided to go to LDV and actually see the inside of it, and boy is it a strange place, but interesting.
Had a drink and then starting speaking to one short skinny girl dancing next to me, had some kinda English. Had a few more drinks, and agreed to leave for 400K for 4 hours but then she also said all night, so the TLN is what I would like to do in this trip, and she got me there. She was a little too chatty and a little annoying, and some ridiculously hot girls had arrived, so started doubting it but went with her anyway, figure some anger fuck would be nice. Got back home, danced, drank and fucked, it was really fun.
Then she wanted to snuggle and watch some shit on her phone, after a while I tried for round 2 and she was like no I'm tired and said something like even if it's for all night, guys can only fuck once, so that really confused me. I guess she taught I wanted the GFE experience!
I admit I'm young and dumb and naive, but all this in Colombia is new to me, so I figure live and learn. I live in Korea, so I figure my next trip is Phuket, to avoid some of this BS.
So my question, even if you get a girl all night, would I be able to do it however times I want? I mean it would probably be just twice but I would like the option. And what is the wording for this agreement, all night until breakfast / lunch?
ThanksYou need to be crystal clear what you expect. Until what time? How many pops? Additionals like kissing, BBBJ, etc.
No entry fee to enter LDV. They will monitor your bill for drinks.
English speakers are very slim and none.
Suggestion if you do not speak spanish is for you to change your destination, or go to directly to Medellin and stay at the Gringo house. (Medellin Plaza or El Castillo) There are many English speaking chicas in LDV. My friends came to Cartagena with zero Spanish and they all found English speaking ones and had a great time.
Was in Cartagena two weeks ago. One of the touts outside Tu Candela said Elektra was closed. A couple of chicas confirmed that it was closed again a couple of weeks before. What is up with this place?
No entry fee to enter LDV. They will monitor your bill for drinks.
English speakers are very slim and none.
Suggestion if you do not speak spanish is for you to change your destination, or go to directly to Medellin and stay at the Gringo house. (Medellin Plaza or El Castillo) Ok, so what if you've only had 30k worth of drinks and want to leave. What happens?
Is it 100k per person if there are 3 of us?
We're definitely going to Cartagena, so I guess we'll have to learn basic spanish. Shouldn't be too difficult with 9 months to go. We went to Fortaleza without any Portuguese, so I guess it will be fine. There's only so much you can say before you ride her silly anyway.
We head to Medellin for 5 days, after 5 days in Cartegena.
There are many English speaking chicas in LDV. My friends came to Cartagena with zero Spanish and they all found English speaking ones and had a great time.Thanks Hioctane. Always wanted to learn Spanish anyway, so I'll give it a shot.
Ricardo Torres
10-14-13, 14:32
There are many English speaking chicas in LDV. My friends came to Cartagena with zero Spanish and they all found English speaking ones and had a great time.I have been to Cartagena so many times I have lost count, as I was doing business there at one point, and I can tell you on no uncertain terms the post by Hioctane is bullshit. It irritates the hell out of me when people post false information. Starting to think Hioctane reads the ISG and then makes up his post. I am saying this based on a post he made on the Santa Marta thread a couple of weeks ago, and now this post on english speaking Colombianas in Cartagena. His trips are illusions.
Quit posting inaccurate information.
Your friends must have been fantasy friends to find that.
I have been to Cartagena so many times I have lost count, as I was doing business there at one point, and I can tell you on no uncertain terms the post by Hioctane is bullshit. It irritates the hell out of me when people post false information. Starting to think Hioctane reads the ISG and then makes up his post. I am saying this based on a post he made on the Santa Marta thread a couple of weeks ago, and now this post on english speaking Colombianas in Cartagena. His trips are illusions.I agree I am new to ISG but have been going to Cartagena since 2006 4 trips a year. Not many girls at LDV speak English some a word or two. I have only ran across very few that speak good English. I would say you need some basic Spanish skills but the more Spanish you learn the better trip you will have. Don't thik you are going to a resort area that will have English speaking staff to help you. Not the case.
Sorry to repeat, but I fear it got lost in the little spat below.
Regarding drinks in LDV.
Ok, so what if you've only had 30k worth of drinks and want to leave. What happens?
Is it 100k per person if there are 3 of us?
Ricardo Torres
10-15-13, 00:04
Sorry to repeat, but I fear it got lost in the little spat below.
Regarding drinks in LDV.
Ok, so what if you've only had 30k worth of drinks and want to leave. What happens?
Is it 100k per person if there are 3 of us?No spat whatsoever.
I just do not want you getting incorrect information, as very very veryyyy few girls in Colombia speak english, and those that do only know a few words for the most part.
You are not obligated to purchase any drinks in LDV if you do not want to. The policy is if you decide to actually take a girl out of LDV you have to show at least a 100, 000 peso bar bill. If you and your two friends take 3 girls out, you will have to have a bar bill of 300, 000 pesos, unless things changed from my last visit, which was very recent. The girl can leave LDV at any time, and you can then meet her moments later outside of LDV if you so choose, you just cannot physically leave with her at the same time.
I might add, I hope you and your friends have deep pockets, because if you like to party in the bars/discos, Cartagena is very expensive, not to mention the girls asking for 200,000 to 400,000 pesos and getting it. You are at a very big disadvantage not being able to speak Spanish. Might want to consider a place like the Sosua in the Dominican Republic, or Costa Rica, where there are more English speakers. You might also consider Medellin which in my opinion has the most beautiful girls in all of Colombia along with Cali. There is much more information here on the board about Medellin than any other place. The Medellin Plaza, and the bar La Cueva sounds like it would be a perfect situation for you and your friends, and Medellin is much cheaper. If I was in your shoes I would just spend all my time in Medellin. There are several day trips you can take from Medellin that will break up your time there since you would be there for 10 days.
Quit posting inaccurate information.
Your friends must have been fantasy friends to find that.
I have been to Cartagena so many times I have lost count, as I was doing business there at one point, and I can tell you on no uncertain terms the post by Hioctane is bullshit. It irritates the hell out of me when people post false information. Starting to think Hioctane reads the ISG and then makes up his post. I am saying this based on a post he made on the Santa Marta thread a couple of weeks ago, and now this post on english speaking Colombianas in Cartagena. His trips are illusions.Tell me what I said about Santa Marta that wasn't accurate?
You speak Spanish so you don't know but try to pretend that you don't speak a lick of Spanish and all of a sudden these Colombiana's know enough English to close a sale. I'm not saying that a lot know fluent English, but you'll find a few. You'd be surprised at how many know Hebrew. Hanging out with so many gringos, many LDV chicas have picked up some English.
DcPlaneGuy
10-16-13, 13:59
The old dude outside LDV with the stories: you met Nelson.So I'm back home from my hectic fortnight in Colombia.
Haha good to know!
That girl was wrong wrong wrong, and she would have tried that shit with anybody it wasn't just because you, or because she thought you were dumb or naive the second she said no, I would have offered her 150 mil and asked her to leave, or stay and have sex all night for the price agreed, or offered the 150 mil and told her I was going to Electra to find a real woman. She agreed to all night then she agreed to sex all night. It is hard to know what is right and what is not right, and you should agree on even the details before you agree to go with the girl just because these individual women will try this shit!
You mentioned Phuket, which is great, YOU WILL LOVE IT, I was in Patong Beach, Bangla Road (Heaven on Earth but the chics with nice tits are hard to find) , and I had sort of a bad experience with a girl, she was soooo fucking gorgeous and had a body more like a colombiana than a thai, but first she had to eat, so I took her someplace to eat, that when we got to my apartment she wanted to play on facebook for an hour to "catch up" becuase she didn't own a computer, and than of course all Thais shower before and after sex, which is fine of course, but from the time I picked this little honey up from Bangal Road, and got to see her naked was like two and half hours, the upside was that she did stay all night, and I hit it in the morning. The only down side to me about Thailand is that I do not like the ultra skinny woman with the small breast thing, but there are some exceptions, I found a few. The prices and variety are outrageously better than Cartagena. But I love Cartagena and live a 20 hour $2000 dollar plane ride from Thailand.
You need to be crystal clear what you expect. Until what time? How many pops? Additionals like kissing, BBBJ, etc.I think this is key, to agree to all the fine print (!) before any action happens.
Yeah Phuket, I live close to there but I still need several months to recover physically, emotionally, financially.
I notices that some mongers were giving you a hard time about paying the two Hot Babes from Cafe Del Mar 300K each, I would put this into perspective. How many guys do you know personally that have had a threesome with two Hot Colombian Babes.
For us guys who make regular (or for me. Semi regular) trips to monger, price is important because you need to get the most for your money, and yes some complain because when guys do not know better or do hot care how much they spend, it sets a precedence for girls to ask for more money, but in your case if you put it in perspective, you had a great experience for your money.Yeah it was first of such mongering trips for me, so it was a good experience. That threesome on my first night was one of the best nights of my life but I hadn't given too much details because I was planning on repeating the same deal a few days later, but to no avail as I kinda got hustled again. I realise I might cause an inflation of prices for other guys, so apologies.
- About the girls with English knowledge:
You would probably need a girl to speak English to hang out and have few drinks at a place like LDV and somehow I did find 3 girls that did speak English in 1 week, but that might have been lucky. The alternative is what I did on my final night, sit outside LDV for a while and go to a girl, say hello, sit down with her at the bench, ask price and off you go. In my case it was 2 girls again, they guessed some English words, I guessed some Spanish words, had some silly laughs, wham bam thank you ma'am.
Black Page
10-16-13, 22:41
Was in Cartagena two weeks ago. One of the touts outside Tu Candela said Elektra was closed. A couple of chicas confirmed that it was closed again a couple of weeks before. What is up with this place?OMG! .
Elektra is my favourite place. I cannot imagine going to CTG without having Elektra. All my best girls came from Elektra after 3am!
Any kind soul on place can confirm or negate that Elektra is again closed? And why?
GucciJayda
10-31-13, 21:46
Damn spoiled tourists stop being dumb and not being a business man when it comes to pricing for the prepagos / escorts. Your one of the few reasons girls are asking for 200-400 mil pesos for short time.
Anyone in town this week for the holiday and beauty pageant? A few people have already PMed me. I'm looking forward to a week of excitement and beautiful looking chicas.
Member #4244
11-10-13, 05:36
Anyone in town this week for the holiday and beauty pageant? A few people have already PMed me. I'm looking forward to a week of excitement and beautiful looking chicas.Hey dude, I am here. Had various girlfriend issues so I am solo in a very nice hotel. Pm me if you want to check out some action one of these nights. She might come up later in the week but I think it looks more like next week in santa marta. So when the cat is away.
Member #4244
11-13-13, 14:20
I have been here since Saturday and I think I am going to leave early (had planned to stay a whole week).
In the Centro Chicas Lindas, Cacique or whatever and that third club seem to be under-covered here. Not bad. Corronchas was kind of dead and I think the prices have gone up or at least the girls are asking more.
Angeles Club and Rocio there was one girl that caught my attention in each place. Both I thought had somewhat pleasant but boring and business like attitudes. Prices seem fairly in both places with some room to wiggle for TLN. They want to do everything in a way that is boring, covered, etc. Even oral sex with a condom in a place where they are charging a fairly heavy price.
Street action seemed just OK. I didn't go to LDV. There is such limited action in the day time here, I knew that, but it stood out on this trip. I did link up with one of my old favorites for a two-day, one night marathon session. Other than that, I was mostly hot and bored here. I did stay in a very nice hotel but looking at the rack rate (about $300 a night!) I wouldn't have paid it if not for the sweet deal I got.
Overall, Cartagena is a fine place to take a girl but I think an increasingly shitty destination for mongering. The girls are not very willing to hustle a buck with deals, extras, etc. Lots of foreigners forking over big bucks, which I think is a very overstated problem in other parts of the country. Same girl that went with me TLN plus all day after had some Brazilian dude come in and pay 2,000,000 pesos to have her for two days, almost the exact same amount of time she went with me for 300,000. Staggering.
The chicas come from all over but I don't think them to be on average any better looking than the locals in Medellin, Cali, Armenia, etc. Some cabby was telling me Monteria is a good destination for mongering. Having passed through there once, I sort of have my doubts.
It's an epidemic everywhere. Lot's of newly minted platinum AMEX latinos who are willing to rack up the miles. We just became 2nd class!
Overall, Cartagena is a fine place to take a girl but I think an increasingly shitty destination for mongering. The girls are not very willing to hustle a buck with deals, extras, etc. Lots of foreigners forking over big bucks, which I think is a very overstated problem in other parts of the country. Same girl that went with me TLN plus all day after had some Brazilian dude come in and pay 2, 000, 000 pesos to have her for two days, almost the exact same amount of time she went with me for 300, 000. Staggering.
The chicas come from all over but I don't think them to be on average any better looking than the locals in Medellin, Cali, Armenia, etc. Some cabby was telling me Monteria is a good destination for mongering. Having passed through there once, I sort of have my doubts.
Hey dude, I am here.Damn, sorry I missed you. I was so busy that I didn't have a chance to check this site or even hook up with others that told me they would be in town. Hopefully, next time. Here are a few images from my trip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDXWiOPQwHs
Member #4244
11-16-13, 15:10
Nice little mashup, Orgasmico! Looks like you had a lot more fun than I did.
I have noticed more street action in many places, but it's almost a drag. The little prepagos invade the old city at night. I took a friend out to dinner and she brought her uncle and aunt, who are formal old people in their 70s. A pair of middle school aged prostitutes were flashing the old man and trying to get him to give them a go. This is how my mom described Haiti in the 70s, only with even younger girls flashing their pussy to any man who stepped off the boat.
Overall I found Cartagena to be a hot, sticky mess. I have been several times previously, but always brought my sand to the beach. There are some good eating options and some nice albeit overpriced hotels. Worth it for a romantic trip but I was not into the scene there.
Praefectus
11-21-13, 11:10
Guys, do not stay at the "Centro Hotel". They didn't allow me bring a girl at night.
Travel Doc10
11-24-13, 10:54
Hey guys,
It doesn't seem like much is happening here on the board lately. Ctg usually picks up at around the beauty pagent / holiday, maybe it has, but people aren't reporting about it. Anyways, I'm headed down for my 7th trip on Wed. 27th. I love the vibe of this town, I know some of the reports lately haven't been too flattering, but for me I find the trips just keep getting better. I hope that continues! My usual routine is to hang out on the beach during the day, fiesta with friend / s late afternoon. Dinner, nap (hopefully!). And then LDV or the regular clubs in centro at night. Glad to have a beer with anyone looking to have fun.
Travel Doc10
Member #4244
11-24-13, 18:03
i was just there and shared my thoughts. the street action in the centro is plentiful but getting kind of shameful lol. tons of **** girls with no tact at all, i think i mentioned the 14-year-olds coming onto a 75 year old guy with his elderly wife and other relatives lol.
the casas and bars are getting overrun by people paying huge price for whatever service. i found the attitudes at places like rocio and angeles to be more businesslike and boring than ever. if not for an old favorite, i would really not have been enticed by anything.
that said, there is loads of action to be had and some of it has to be good. be patient, be thorough and enjoy.
Hey guys,
I love the vibe of this town, I know some of the reports lately haven't been too flattering, but for me I find the trips just keep getting better.I had a great time earlier this month. I ran into a lot of daytime and night time action. I'll probably be back next year.
Coming to Cartagena after Medellin and need the guide who can help to make contacts with the girls. I am not interested in casas, interested mostly in semi or non. I don't know Spanish well. And the guide can prepare the list of girls before my coming. We will set up a reward for every girl. It's very important for me to find a responsible and a good guide. Just give their email or phone numbers to speak. I have checked Cartagena list of guide but nobody replied to my phone calls.
I had a great time earlier this month. I ran into a lot of daytime and night time action. I'll probably be back next year.Has anybody heard or seen Martin, Motorcycle rider, has some rental's in il'lageto, been calling and e- mailing him with no response? Its been like a month, it's not like him! Just wondering.
LocoGringo
12-04-13, 15:10
Has anybody heard or seen Martin, Motorcycle rider, has some rental's in il'lageto, been calling and e- mailing him with no response? Its been like a month, it's not like him! Just wondering.He is here (Cartagena) now, saw the ol fellar yesterday
I had a great time earlier this month. I ran into a lot of daytime and night time action. I'll probably be back next year.How much did you pay? What are the options?
Member #4244
12-05-13, 04:14
Coming to Cartagena after Medellin and need the guide who can help to make contacts with the girls. I am not interested in casas, interested mostly in semi or non. I don't know Spanish well. And the guide can prepare the list of girls before my coming. We will set up a reward for every girl. It's very important for me to find a responsible and a good guide. Just give their email or phone numbers to speak. I have checked Cartagena list of guide but nobody replied to my phone calls.Get ready to get hustled! I wouldn't trust anyone you meet randomly to set you up and fluid communication will be key even in legit interactions. I think your best bet is the casas and you can make arrangements with the girls there to come to you in the day or night. The ones in the Centro get going late, Bruselas and all that during the day / early evening.
My first post. Spend a few days in Cartagena. Visited LDV and their were plenty of girls. Mostly 6 and 7s. With a few 8s. I took out a couple of girls that I liked. One of them looked and said she was a Paisa. Very pretty face with a nice body. Paid her 150,000. 00. She wasn't the best. Wanted to give me a Covered BJ but I insisted without one and she agreed. Very nice girl but not the best in bed. The other girl I took was a tall, blond I believe her name was Daniela. She was a lot better in bed. We agreed on 200,000. 00. The extra 50 was worth it. Spend a couple of days at beach. The girls were out tanning. Plenty of girls all over.
The weather was great. Overall a good 3 day trip. Some of the girls at LDV wanted some crazy money. They start at 500,000. 00 to 600,000. 00 but when you smile and tell them."too high" they smile back and say well we can negotiate. LOL.
He is here (Cartagena) now, saw the ol fellar yesterdayPlease tell hi to call his friend Jerry, he's not answering his phone or emails.
Thanks
Black Page
12-09-13, 13:57
Hello.
I am finally getting back to CTG next week. Any kind sould would tell me if Elektra is open or sadly closed? If closed, any alternative pub after 3am?
Thank you!
Hilltopper
12-09-13, 15:17
Hello.
I am finally getting back to CTG next week. Any kind sould would tell me if Elektra is open or sadly closed? If closed, any alternative pub after 3am?
Thank you!FWIW: Was told last week that Electra was closed and would "possibly" re-open in January. When I made inquiry about where I could find a similar bar that the working girls went to after 3 a. M, they indicated that there wasn't one at the moment..
Hilltopper
12-09-13, 16:28
Coming to Cartagena after Medellin and need the guide who can help to make contacts with the girls. I am not interested in casas, interested mostly in semi or non. I don't know Spanish well. And the guide can prepare the list of girls before my coming. We will set up a reward for every girl. It's very important for me to find a responsible and a good guide. Just give their email or phone numbers to speak. I have checked Cartagena list of guide but nobody replied to my phone calls.
I don't want to come across the wrong way, but IMHO the idea of preparing a list of girls before your arrival is incompatible with not only the culture and mindset in Cartagena, but setting yourself up for disappointment. In addition to being on the Carribean Coast of Colombia, these will be 18 to 24 year old Colombianas who do not know what they are going to do this afternoon, and if they do, that's subject to change on a whimsical notion.
When going to CTG to meet chicas, I would get any notion of trying to make "advance plans" out of my head, unless you find being frustrated fun.
Get there on the ground, keep an open mind, don't rush things, don't try to plan things. Relax, enjoy yourself and go with the flow. Take each day, hour, minute as it comes. Meet people there on the ground, get out and about, go to the beach and just sit without being in a rush, etc, don't try to force things and that moment in time and space will most certainly come together for a beautiful experience with a young Colombiana.
Leave any kind of notion of being on time, planning your days in advance, etc, etc, at home in the States, Europe, Canada or wherever it is that you may find planning things ahead of time as par for the course. It's not compatible with 18 to 24 year old Colombianas and it's not compatible with the vibe of most Costenos in general, regardless of age.
IMHO, you will have a much better time if you leave your alarm clock, watch, daily planner, etc, behind.
Again, just all my opinion.
Black Page
12-10-13, 06:03
FWIW: Was told last week that Electra was closed and would "possibly" re-open in January. When I made inquiry about where I could find a similar bar that the working girls went to after 3 a. M, they indicated that there wasn't one at the moment.OMG!
This spoils totally my usual strategy in CGT: explore bars like Tu Candela without hurry till late, then going straight to Elektra to see all the best of CTG meeting up in one single place!
Now, if I am alone at 3am, that means I have to sadly move towards my room to sleep?
I feel depressed.
First time in Cartagena and Colombia. Strolled the beach during the day, but did not see any "action." Hit Cafe del Mar, perhaps too early at 1030p. Not much happening there, had 1 beer and went to Plaza Santo Domingo, also not much happening. (I see a trend developing.) After getting something to eat, I went to Isis just before midnight. Around 16 chicas. Was initially quoted 500K, by this very Curvy babe. She also offered 250K for 1 hour takeout. Was also told Isis would close for Christmas break this Sunday, 12/15 and reopen 1/3. Saw 3 strip shows and left. Isis had latinas to my liking, but was dead for the most part. Next stop was Tu Candelas. Only the upstairs was open. 10K cover. In front of Tu Candelas was crowded, it was Hooker centro. Was approached by a chica, not too my liking. When I got to Mr Babillas at 130a, it was closing. My only option left was LDV. A few chicas in the small plaza. As I walked in a bombshell was walking out with an older gent. Inside there were about 10 chicas. LDV was pretty dead. Chose the best one there, a curvy MILF type in a tube dress. I hoped the rate would be lower due to lack of customers, but she stood firm at 300K. (Live and learn, I shoulda taken the 250K option at Isis.) She was GFE back at the Hotel. Going to go to Pley Club tonight. If I don't see anything I like, I'll hang out in front of Tu Candelas and see what develops. Also confirmed that Elektra is closed.
Hillbilly69
12-12-13, 21:02
OMG!
This spoils totally my usual strategy in CGT: explore bars like Tu Candela without hurry till late, then going straight to Elektra to see all the best of CTG meeting up in one single place!
Now, if I am alone at 3am, that means I have to sadly move towards my room to sleep?
I feel depressed.All the action is in front of the Clock Tower. Dozens there at times, I saw girls there even by day and the moment it gets dark they were moving in. At one point it looked like musical chairs with girls coming in and leaving with somebody by the second it seemed.
After not seeing much in front of the Clock Tower last night, I did a strip club tour. Started off at Isis a little after 12a. It was the same as my previous visit. Got to see one of the hotter girls do a strip. A Paisa sat with me and since she was a non drinker, did not push me to buy her a drink. Waited for something more to happen, nursed a beer and left.
Went to Pley Club. 11K beer, about 9 chicas. 2 doable. Approached by one and was quoted 250K for 30min. Nursed a beer awaiting a show. Was about to leave, when they announced a strip show would start soon. Saw it and left. I wanted to checkout Chicas Linda club, but taxi driver stated it was closed.
Was about to call it a night, when he recommended El Paradiso del Marino. Musta been after 2a, when I got there. Lots of chicas, quite a few doable. When I entered, it felt like I was the only guy there, as the chicas were looking at me with hungry eyes. I felt like chum circled by hungry sharks. I clicked with a chick or so I thought. She initially quoted 300K for 30min, got it down to 200K, and got 40min. El Paradiso is open 24hrs. After 4a it starts to pick up. 11k beer. It's a strip club / house. It also has a pool and restaurant. It reminds me of a motel, that has been converted into a house. Only problem is the distance, it was a 20K cab fare back to Bocagrande. BTW, what is it about Cartagena strip clubs, where the dancers don't dance, and generally only go topless?
Ricardo Torres
12-14-13, 03:54
After not seeing much in front of the Clock Tower last night, I did a strip club tour. Started off at Isis a little after 12a. It was the same as my previous visit. Got to see one of the hotter girls do a strip. A Paisa sat with me and since she was a non drinker, did not push me to buy her a drink. Waited for something more to happen, nursed a beer and left.
Went to Pley Club. 11K beer, about 9 chicas. 2 doable. Approached by one and was quoted 250K for 30min. Nursed a beer awaiting a show. Was about to leave, when they announced a strip show would start soon. Saw it and left. I wanted to checkout Chicas Linda club, but taxi driver stated it was closed.
Was about to call it a night, when he recommended El Paradiso del Marino. Musta been after 2a, when I got there. Lots of chicas, quite a few doable. When I entered, it felt like I was the only guy there, as the chicas were looking at me with hungry eyes. I felt like chum circled by hungry sharks. I clicked with a chick or so I thought. She initially quoted 300K for 30min, got it down to 200K, and got 40min. El Paradiso is open 24hrs. After 4a it starts to pick up. 11k beer. It's a strip club / house. It also has a pool and restaurant. It reminds me of a motel, that has been converted into a house. Only problem is the distance, it was a 20K cab fare back to Bocagrande. BTW, what is it about Cartagena strip clubs, where the dancers don't dance, and generally only go topless?Much appreciate you taking the time to share your experiences! Cheers to ya!
C Jack Sparrow
12-14-13, 18:00
I fully agree with Hilltopper. You will adopt their way of life if you stay a longer period. Being transformed from being an organized Anglo-Saxon to a life enjoying Costeno. It's like taking of a shield! And feel free!
In 2010 I stayed in a friends family's house paying 500 k COP / month including 3 meals. That will not happen again, but maybe 1 million COP / month is realistic.
The people are warm, maybe even warmer than in other parts of Colombia, and those people are very friendly as they are.
I hope to stay there 14 weeks, and if I like it, return on a regular basis.
Maybe someone got a clue about a internet site or newspaper to find economical long-term stays?
I don't want to come across the wrong way, but IMHO the idea of preparing a list of girls before your arrival is incompatible with not only the culture and mindset in Cartagena, but setting yourself up for disappointment. In addition to being on the Carribean Coast of Colombia, these will be 18 to 24 year old Colombianas who do not know what they are going to do this afternoon, and if they do, that's subject to change on a whimsical notion.
When going to CTG to meet chicas, I would get any notion of trying to make "advance plans" out of my head, unless you find being frustrated fun.
Get there on the ground, keep an open mind, don't rush things, don't try to plan things. Relax, enjoy yourself and go with the flow...
Yesterday afternoon, I went to Playa Hollywood. It was crowded, perhaps due to the time of year, only saw about 9 chicas. Lots of other Latinas were accompanied. Also there were a lot of families and regular folk. Not what I was expecting. Also did not meet the infamous Tony Montana. Tout recommended by another forum member pointed out the available babes. Introduced to a 24yr old Stunner, probably the best looking babe at the time. Near GFE back at the Hotel. Savored the time with her. Overpriced, but well worth, the 300K. (Was expecting a 100K. 200K rate.) She stated she was returning home next week, to be with family over Christmas. I get a feeling, most of the girls will be doing the same thing. Sunday, is supposedly the best beach day. I'll see.
Old Parr: The stunner said, Elektra was being remodeled and would reopen in Jan. The tout said it was closed due to drug use in the club and would NOT reopen. (Drug use in a Colombian Club! I'm Shocked!) Wait and see, I guess.
How is Cartagena vs. Medellin for a first timer? I don't know much Spanish, I can understand good bits and can speak basic Spanish but not much more. I have been to DR quite a few times and been able to get by just fine with my basic Spanish over there.
Just looking to get away for a few days and going some place that is safe (security wise) , offers GFE, good quality / quantity of girls (I prefer lighter skinned girls over darker skinned, but am not terribly picky) and someplace where I can do just fine with my basic Spanish. I've been to several mongering destinations over the past few years, but have yet to experience Colombia.
Is Cartagena worth it? It would be my first time, and I have read that Medellin is more better for Spanish speakers.
I am currently sipping a Ron why coca cola in a remodeled Electra, you prayers have been answered. It's now open!
Sunday at Playa Hollywood was packed. Lots of Families. Somewhat difficult to pick out the pros from the non-pros. Hooked up with the stunner again.
Went to LDV last night around 12a. A few Hotties, in tight dresses outside. Got a beer, did not see anything that stuck out inside the club. Went and sat on a bench outside. Saw a stunning morena clara walking in the small plaza. She sat nearby and asked why I was alone. She was tall. 5'10" in her heels, very curvy body, busty, thin waist and a boomin ass. Her tight tube dress barely contained her. She quoted me 150K. Back at the Hotel, she was GFE. That ass was to die for, and a good send off, as my next stop is Rio de Janeiro. She was the best of my short time here. Sadly, I found her too late.
Puntz79: I liked Cartagena, it was my first time here. The tourist zone in Baocagrande is small, IMHO. I liked the beach. Get to Playa Hollywood, in front of the infamous Hotel Caribe. Limited Spanish should not be a problem there. If you see any babes alone or in a group, they're more than likely good to go. Not sure, how you'll do, in the clubs though. Best time for the clubs is Friday, and Sat. Also plenty of light skinned babes. And as always, RTFF. Add a trip report too, Mr 35 posts. Best of luck.
SlamCity7777
12-18-13, 02:00
Sunday at Playa Hollywood was packed. Lots of Families. Somewhat difficult to pick out the pros from the non-pros. Hooked up with the stunner again.
Went to LDV last night around 12a. A few Hotties, in tight dresses outside. Got a beer, did not see anything that stuck out inside the club. Went and sat on a bench outside. Saw a stunning morena clara walking in the small plaza. She sat nearby and asked why I was alone. She was tall. 5'10" in her heels, very curvy body, busty, thin waist and a boomin ass. Her tight tube dress barely contained her. She quoted me 150K. Back at the Hotel, she was GFE. That ass was to die for, and a good send off, as my next stop is Rio de Janeiro. She was the best of my short time here. Sadly, I found her too late.
Puntz79: I liked Cartagena, it was my first time here. The tourist zone in Baocagrande is small, IMHO. I liked the beach. Get to Playa Hollywood, in front of the infamous Hotel Caribe. Limited Spanish should not be a problem there. If you see any babes alone or in a group, they're more than likely good to go. Not sure, how you'll do, in the clubs though. Best time for the clubs is Friday, and Sat. Also plenty of light skinned babes. And as always, RTFF. Add a trip report too, Mr 35 posts. Best of luck.Thanks for the report! Short and sweet. Too bad you found the chica too late. Happened to me in Argentina a few years back.
Is there a report of distinction or a Cartagena "cliff notes"? I'm thinking about expanding my Colombia view. Both for Mongering and for Standard / Family stuff.
Gracias
Mojo Bandit
12-18-13, 08:48
I am currently sipping a Ron why coca cola in a remodeled Electra, you prayers have been answered. It's now open!Amen! Brother Zippy Amen! Is the action good?
Ricardo Torres
12-19-13, 05:33
Amen! Brother Zippy Amen! Is the action good?I asked a friend of mine yesterday who works as one of the bartenders at Elektra about the status of the place, and here is her response in a text message to me.
"Mi trabajo esta cerrado porque mandaron a desalojar el local donde estaba."
I forgot to mention that vitamin C is cheaper here than in Panama City and Rio de Janeiro. I shopped around and found 5mg month supply for $103USD. It cost $160 in Panama & Rio. No script needed. OTC. Best Price was at the pharmacy across the street from the Hotel Almirante. I didn't price V. Wierd, that the day before I purchased, was quoted $110 price.
I am currently sipping a Ron why coca cola in a remodeled Electra, you prayers have been answered. It's now open!When I walked in on Tuesday morning, I just got off the plane and didn't realize Electra had been closed. It looks better inside although the pizza place wasn't up and running, unfortunately. It was the best pizza in town (at least 6-7 years ago it was). Anyway, there were quite a few chicas rolling into the place, probably after LDV was closing. It wasn't as crowded as it normally is, but there was definitely enough talent to choose from.
The new name of this new place is called "Paprika." You heard it here first, folks.
Mojo Bandit
12-21-13, 08:48
I forgot to mention that vitamin C is cheaper here than in Panama City and Rio de Janeiro. I shopped around and found 5mg month supply for $103USD. It cost $160 in Panama & Rio. No script needed. OTC. Best Price was at the pharmacy across the street from the Hotel Almirante. I didn't price V. Wierd, that the day before I purchased, was quoted $110 price.Damn that is a good price. Are you saying that you got it for $3 a pill? We are talking Cialis with the Lilly hologram seal. I go to Olympia and pay like $40 for a weeks supply (4 10mg pills, I cut them in half). Am I in the right conversation or are we talking something else here?
Mojo Bandit
12-21-13, 08:53
I forgot to mention that vitamin C is cheaper here than in Panama City and Rio de Janeiro. I shopped around and found 5mg month supply for $103USD. It cost $160 in Panama & Rio. No script needed. OTC. Best Price was at the pharmacy across the street from the Hotel Almirante. I didn't price V. Wierd, that the day before I purchased, was quoted $110 price.Did you shop for the vitamin "C" at Economia Drogueria on the corner?
Damn that is a good price. Are you saying that you got it for $3 a pill? We are talking Cialis with the Lilly hologram seal. I go to Olympia and pay like $40 for a weeks supply (4 10mg pills, I cut them in half). Am I in the right conversation or are we talking something else here?I was searching high and low in Cartagena and Medellin for generic Cialis. They don't make it yet! Real Cialis (with hologram) costs the same as in the States.
How is Cartagena vs. Medellin for a first timer? I don't know much Spanish, I can understand good bits and can speak basic Spanish but not much more. I have been to DR quite a few times and been able to get by just fine with my basic Spanish over there.
Just looking to get away for a few days and going some place that is safe (security wise) , offers GFE, good quality / quantity of girls (I prefer lighter skinned girls over darker skinned, but am not terribly picky) and someplace where I can do just fine with my basic Spanish. I've been to several mongering destinations over the past few years, but have yet to experience Colombia.
Is Cartagena worth it? It would be my first time, and I have read that Medellin is more better for Spanish speakers.If GFE is a priority, go to the Mansion in Medellin for the first time. Plenty of guys will help you translate.
Board members, which is better Cartagena or Cali? Been to Medellin and while the women there are some of the most beautiful in the world, it's a bit spread out in terms of the casa locations to Parque Lleras (where the mongers stay). I am looking for close proximity of the action to my hotel. If the action is at a club or bar nearby the monger lodges, that would be the optimal destination. Any insight is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Supposedly it opened last Tuesday. I went Saturday night. It was hopping. More than Dolce. It's a lot brighter than before and they play crossover music now. Cover for guys was 20k and girls was 10k and you get a 10k drink ticket. Was it that high before? I went with a couple of chicas that I knew from Dolce. They ended bringing their posse. They wanted me to pay their cover. 50k. I was kinda pissed but I put it toward a bottle which I was planning to get anyway so it wasn't too bad. 120k for a big bottle of vodka (132k with mixer). Danced the night away with 5 chicas so it wasn't all bad.
Mojo Bandit
12-23-13, 09:35
Board members, which is better Cartagena or Cali? Been to Medellin and while the women there are some of the most beautiful in the world, it's a bit spread out in terms of the casa locations to Parque Lleras (where the mongers stay). I am looking for close proximity of the action to my hotel. If the action is at a club or bar nearby the monger lodges, that would be the optimal destination. Any insight is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.I have never been to Cali, but I thought I would throw my two cents in because I have made a few trips to Cartagena.
If it is proximity you want, then Cartagena is good. But you say hotel. I say you should think "Apartment"! You say "casa", I say you should think "freelance". But if you are into the casa scene, thats fine too. Now let me tell you how to decide for yourself if Cartagena has the proximity you desire. In the Colombia forum that this "Cartagena Reports" thread is in there is a thread called "Cartagena Lists", if you go to "Cartagena Lists" and you open it and you scroll down to the last entry made by Hillbilly69, at the bottom of that entry is a link that will take you to a custom made Google map and you can see where Hotels, Apartments, Casas, and other places to find chicas.
My guess is that women are cheaper in Cali, but women travel from all over Colombia to Cartagena to sell their affections for money so that their family doesn't know, there are also local street walkers that are cheaper and less good looking but even some of them are hot. Between El Laguito, Boca Grande and The Historical Center. They are all a ten minute taxi ride apart, in theory if you go to Playa Hollywood during the day, and LDV at night, you could get laid twice a day and never leave El Laguito, the trick is to make sure you have a chica-friendly apartment or hotel. I always, these days, rent from the same guy in El laguito, an apartment on the ocean with a balcony and I pay about $90 dollars a night. You can find freelancers in many places other than LDV (La Dolce Vita is a discotecha that is nothing but freelance women, usually about thirty women ranging from 6s to 8s and 9s) almost always the women greatly outnumber the men so it is a buyers market. As of lately they have started a minimum drinking rule, so smart guys get there at about 11 to 11:45 pm and just wait outside for women to show up and catch them before they go in)
Basically you have 24 hour pussy like this: Playa Hollywood during the day, LDV in the night, and Elektra in the late night to dawn. Electra is not on th Hillbilly69 map (maybe because it has been open and closed a lot lately. Last word on the boards was it was open) but if you decide to go I will give you directions
Mojo Bandit
12-23-13, 09:43
Yesterday afternoon, I went to Playa Hollywood. It was crowded, perhaps due to the time of year, only saw about 9 chicas. Lots of other Latinas were accompanied. Also there were a lot of families and regular folk. Not what I was expecting. Also did not meet the infamous Tony Montana. Tout recommended by another forum member pointed out the available babes. Introduced to a 24yr old Stunner, probably the best looking babe at the time. Near GFE back at the Hotel. Savored the time with her. Overpriced, but well worth, the 300K. (Was expecting a 100K. 200K rate.) She stated she was returning home next week, to be with family over Christmas. I get a feeling, most of the girls will be doing the same thing. Sunday, is supposedly the best beach day. I'll see.
Old Parr: The stunner said, Elektra was being remodeled and would reopen in Jan. The tout said it was closed due to drug use in the club and would NOT reopen. (Drug use in a Colombian Club! I'm Shocked!) Wait and see, I guess.Probably one of the reasons you paid 300k instead of 100 or 200k was that the tout got a healthy cut of that money, during the day it is best to camp a while on Playa Hollywood and shop around if you want to get the best price, personally though sometimes it is nice for convenience sake to just pay the price and get introduced to the hottest babe on the beach without having to shop around.
Mojo Bandit
12-23-13, 09:55
All the action is in front of the Clock Tower. Dozens there at times, I saw girls there even by day and the moment it gets dark they were moving in. At one point it looked like musical chairs with girls coming in and leaving with somebody by the second it seemed.Hi Hillbilly69, how are you? When you say in "front of the clock tower" are you referring to the area outside on the sidewalk / plaza where the taxis pull up, or inside the Plaza de Coches? Also wanted ask why Elektra was not on your map, is it because of its being closed before, I just read a post that said that it was remodeled and open again.
Hillbilly69
12-23-13, 12:54
Hi Hillbilly69, how are you? When you say in "front of the clock tower" are you referring to the area outside on the sidewalk / plaza where the taxis pull up, or inside the Plaza de Coches? Also wanted ask why Elektra was not on your map, is it because of its being closed before, I just read a post that said that it was remodeled and open again.People call it different names, Plaza the Coches is correct, I call it the clock tower, had a friend call it Tu Candelas, he is referring to out in front of it. I took Elektra down as it was closed while I was there, it reopened the day after I left. Figured I would read it after I got back in a few weeks. Alot of action at the clock tower, saw girls there every time I walked by at all times of day but right at dark they start coming in in droves.
Black Page
12-23-13, 15:49
Supposedly it opened last Tuesday. I went Saturday night. It was hopping. More than Dolce. It's a lot brighter than before and they play crossover music now. Cover for guys was 20k and girls was 10k and you get a 10k drink ticket. Was it that high before? I went with a couple of chicas that I knew from Dolce. They ended bringing their posse. They wanted me to pay their cover. 50k. I was kinda pissed but I put it toward a bottle which I was planning to get anyway so it wasn't too bad. 120k for a big bottle of vodka (132k with mixer). Danced the night away with 5 chicas so it wasn't all bad.I was there and I experienced the whole opening Ordeal.
Monday 16 daytime: workers inside, we open tonight.
Monday 16 evening: opening cancelled, puticas and vendors in Plaza del Reloy didn't have a clue.
Monday 16 (ooops, Tuesday 17 already) 2am: open! Open but empty. 10 waiters in uniform waiting for people in the street. 3am: some people coming. I had nice time with two girls met in the plaza. I brought them there, because they did not suspect it was open.
Tuesday etc: open, open, open! (but I left on Wed morning. I am still depressed)
Black Page
12-23-13, 15:51
I was searching high and low in Cartagena and Medellin for generic Cialis. They don't make it yet! Real Cialis (with hologram) costs the same as in the States.This is consistent with what I know. I buy my year supply of generic Sildenafil in Colombia, but I never found any generic C or L.
Black Page
12-23-13, 15:53
The new name of this new place is called "Paprika." You heard it here first, folks.Elektra will be always "Elektra" in my heart. Sorry I cannot switch to the new name.
Manizales911
12-23-13, 17:56
This is consistent with what I know. I buy my year supply of generic Sildenafil in Colombia, but I never found any generic C or L.Generic Cialis is sold in other parts of the world though, the generic name is tadalafil.
Mojo Bandit
12-24-13, 09:55
People call it different names, Plaza the Coches is correct, I call it the clock tower, had a friend call it Tu Candelas, he is referring to out in front of it. I took Elektra down as it was closed while I was there, it reopened the day after I left. Figured I would read it after I got back in a few weeks. Alot of action at the clock tower, saw girls there every time I walked by at all times of day but right at dark they start coming in in droves.Last time I was in Cartagena was in July and I picked up a chica out on the benches in front of Tu Candelas (which you directed me to THANK YOU) and she was not bad, she had blond hair and rocking body, I swear those surgeons down know how to put some breast on a woman, cause hers were perfect they looked fake but they did not feel fake at all, this chica told me she had previously married a gringo and lived in San Diego at one time (when she was like seventeen) she had great service too. For like 100 K. But she was the one that when we were in the taxi on the way to why apartment in El Laguito, the cops waved our taxi to the side at one of those check points and then pulled me out of the car and frisked me? Lucky for me I never fool around with any candy or smoke. But I thought it was odd
Mojo Bandit
12-24-13, 10:04
People call it different names, Plaza the Coches is correct, I call it the clock tower, had a friend call it Tu Candelas, he is referring to out in front of it. I took Elektra down as it was closed while I was there, it reopened the day after I left. Figured I would read it after I got back in a few weeks. Alot of action at the clock tower, saw girls there every time I walked by at all times of day but right at dark they start coming in in droves.I don't know when they did it or when everyone else noticed, but Street View is completely available for Cartagena in Google Maps lately. The whole city with few exeptions. A great way to Recon areas and routes
Mojo Bandit
12-24-13, 10:12
Like this is the benches in front of Tu Candelas where I picked up this chica.
Hillbilly69
12-24-13, 12:23
we were in the taxi on the way to why apartment in El Laguito, the cops waved our taxi to the side at one of those check points and then pulled me out of the car and frisked me? Lucky for me I never fool around with any candy or smoke. But I thought it was oddWingman got searched first day he was there last trip and almost again same night, I haven't been searched yet.
Thanks for the info and I like your way of thinking. Freelance is definitely my preference, just didn't see much of it in Medellin so I was preparing myself for that type of scene in Cartagena or Cali. I'll be sure to reach out for those directions when I book my trip. Appreciate it.
I have never been to Cali, but I thought I would throw my two cents in because I have made a few trips to Cartagena.
If it is proximity you want, then Cartagena is good. But you say hotel. I say you should think "Apartment"! You say "casa", I say you should think "freelance". But if you are into the casa scene, thats fine too. Now let me tell you how to decide for yourself if Cartagena has the proximity you desire. In the Colombia forum that this "Cartagena Reports" thread is in there is a thread called "Cartagena Lists", if you go to "Cartagena Lists" and you open it and you scroll down to the last entry made by Hillbilly69, at the bottom of that entry is a link that will take you to a custom made Google map and you can see where Hotels, Apartments, Casas, and other places to find chicas.
My guess is that women are cheaper in Cali, but women travel from all over Colombia to Cartagena to sell their affections for money so that their family doesn't know, there are also local street walkers that are cheaper and less good looking but even some of them are hot. Between El Laguito, Boca Grande and The Historical Center. They are all a ten minute taxi ride apart, in theory if you go to Playa Hollywood during the day, and LDV at night, you could get laid twice a day and never leave El Laguito, the trick is to make sure you have a chica-friendly apartment or hotel. I always, these days, rent from the same guy in El laguito, an apartment on the ocean with a balcony and I pay about $90 dollars a night. You can find freelancers in many places other than LDV (La Dolce Vita is a discotecha that is nothing but freelance women, usually about thirty women ranging from 6s to 8s and 9s) almost always the women greatly outnumber the men so it is a buyers market. As of lately they have started a minimum drinking rule, so smart guys get there at about 11 to 11:45 pm and just wait outside for women to show up and catch them before they go in)
Basically you have 24 hour pussy like this: Playa Hollywood during the day, LDV in the night, and Elektra in the late night to dawn. Electra is not on th Hillbilly69 map (maybe because it has been open and closed a lot lately. Last word on the boards was it was open) but if you decide to go I will give you directions
Mojo Bandit
12-25-13, 11:16
Wingman got searched first day he was there last trip and almost again same night, I haven't been searched yet.I'm curious to know if your wingman was with a Chica when he got searched, I wondering if that incident with the stupid secret service guys has had an impact on the way the police treat gringos with chicas? I was thinking that of all the times I had been through the checkpoints alone, I never got stopped.
Black Page
12-25-13, 21:36
I'm curious to know if your wingman was with a Chica when he got searched, I wondering if that incident with the stupid secret service guys has had an impact on the way the police treat gringos with chicas? I was thinking that of all the times I had been through the checkpoints alone, I never got stopped.Colombian police is very professional. I was searched and questioned many times, like at least once on each visit to Colombia (except this last one). Each time, after no more than 5 minutes, after they havd explored my pockets and examined documents, I received only big smiles and "welcome to Colombia". Nothing to worry, if you have done nothing wrong. Being with a girl is not a problem. Why should it be? You are not in USA. There, you can have a gun in your pocket, but if you are with a girl dressed too sexy, presumably a street girl, hmmmmm. TROUBLE!
Mojo Bandit
12-29-13, 09:40
Colombian police is very professional. I was searched and questioned many times, like at least once on each visit to Colombia (except this last one). Each time, after no more than 5 minutes, after they havd explored my pockets and examined documents, I received only big smiles and "welcome to Colombia". Nothing to worry, if you have done nothing wrong. Being with a girl is not a problem. Why should it be? You are not in USA. There, you can have a gun in your pocket, but if you are with a girl dressed too sexy, presumably a street girl, hmmmmm. TROUBLE!I have no doubt that the Colombian Police are professional and I have the upmost respect for them. The NYPD are also very professional, and I have the upmost respect for them, but the fact is that the NYPD use stop and frisk to keep out the rift raft. The policy has nothing to do with their level of professionalism, it has to do with not wanting rift raft. It also has to do with profiling. They say that the security check points were put in place because of Narcoterrorism and FARC, now I certainly do not look like anyone in FARC and I would hardly fit the profile for the average narcoterrorist. I didn't say anything about being harassed or being shook down (which is what unprofessional police do) I am saying that is possible that single white guys with prepagos are being profiled.
Black Page
12-29-13, 20:44
i have no doubt that the colombian police are professional and i have the upmost respect for them. the nypd are also very professional, and i have the upmost respect for them, but the fact is that the nypd use stop and frisk to keep out the rift raft. the policy has nothing to do with their level of professionalism, it has to do with not wanting rift raft. it also has to do with profiling. they say that the security check points were put in place because of narcoterrorism and farc, now i certainly do not look like anyone in farc and i would hardly fit the profile for the average narcoterrorist. i didn't say anything about being harassed or being shook down (which is what unprofessional police do) i am saying that is possible that single white guys with prepagos are being profiled.i don't know what is "rift raft". the police in ctg checks tourists because many of them are drug users. they come to colombia because they think they can do here what they cannot do at home. at least, coca is cheaper. i have seen several idiots buying coca and abusing over any limit.
whenever police stopped me, after a routine check of documents of me and the girl (if any) , they explored my pockets. this happened maybe 10-20 times in my life, and i've been never worried or felt unconfortable. no profiling, because they really don't care about people going with prepagos, and they don't take note of my name. why should they? there's nothing wrong in being with a girl (except the case the girl is ****, but this really seldom happens in ctg). this is not usa.
Mojo Bandit
01-02-14, 01:53
i don't know what is "rift raft". the police in ctg checks tourists because many of them are drug users. they come to colombia because they think they can do here what they cannot do at home. at least, coca is cheaper. i have seen several idiots buying coca and abusing over any limit.
whenever police stopped me, after a routine check of documents of me and the girl (if any) , they explored my pockets. this happened maybe 10-20 times in my life, and i've been never worried or felt unconfortable. no profiling, because they really don't care about people going with prepagos, and they don't take note of my name. why should they? there's nothing wrong in being with a girl (except the case the girl is ****, but this really seldom happens in ctg). this is not usa.thanks for your input, i have just read some stories talking about how some people in cartagena felt that the secret service story had given cartagena a bad reputation so i wanted to see if they were singling out gringos that were mongering, but i think the secret service got themselves in trouble and disrespected the culture there when they refused to pay the girl, and they got what they deserved. you seem to have had enough experience to know what you are talking about, so thanks for answering my post.
rift raft can define anyone that certain people do not want around them
Black Page
01-03-14, 01:23
but I think the secret service got themselves in trouble and disrespected the culture there when they refused to pay the girl, and they got what they deserved.Ahaha!
Some of those Secret Service guys, supposedly well qualified:
1) went to PleyClub, that is one of the most famous strip / fuck clubs, where all taxi drivers want to take tourists.
2) brought girls back to their rooms, that is where classified and delicate stuff is supposedly stored.
3) finally claimed "we did not realize they were prostitutes".
At least points 2) and 3) suggest they must be moved to another function.
, but I think the secret service got themselves in trouble and disrespected the culture there when they refused to pay the girl, and they got what they deserved.So there is absolutely NO WAY that the story from the working girl was over exaggerated? $400 for her time! I think the guys took the girls back, they bragged about their jobs and BOOM, the girl wanted more money and he straight up refused which any of us would have done. Since when do ANY OF US pay $400 for a club girl in any part of Colombia? Those are rates for pro women in the US in South Beach. No way she was trying to milk them upfront for that price. Just don't buy it. And how did they disrespect the culture? The culture is girls sleeping with us for money. None of us were there and we only have the girl telling her side of the story. Not once did the agent discuss the facts. Wait, these girls never lie about their work or their rates. LMAO
Damn that is a good price. Are you saying that you got it for $3 a pill? We are talking Cialis with the Lilly hologram seal. I go to Olympia and pay like $40 for a weeks supply (4 10mg pills, I cut them in half). Am I in the right conversation or are we talking something else here?
Did you shop for the vitamin "C" at Economia Drogueria on the corner?
I was searching high and low in Cartagena and Medellin for generic Cialis. They don't make it yet! Real Cialis (with hologram) costs the same as in the States.Sorry, I'm currently in Brazil, have not checked this thread. Yes, I'm talking about Cialis, specifically the 5mg. 28 pills. Box has the Lilly Hologram. And it works like it should. Yes, its the Economia Drogueria, across the street from the Hotel Almirante. One has to climb a few steps to enter the store. With the exchange rate, I paid $106. 42USD. I suggest you shop around for the best deal. And if, you leave without buying, some may lower the price. Any specific questions, send an I'm.
CarniFexx87
01-06-14, 02:57
Hey guys,
I'm planning a trip to Colombia and will be doing a 10 days each split between Cartagena and Medellin, anyone know some good hotels that are chica friend that are close to the action / nightlife in Cartagena?
Was anyone in CTG this past weekend? I am curious to see what the scene is like during the summerland EDM festival, I know there are TONS of prepagos and "semi-pros" from Medellin in town for the fest, though not necessarily for work. Have LDV and Elektra / Paprika been pretty good lately?
Member #4427
01-06-14, 10:22
Does anyone know of restaurant / bar on the beach that is open at night. Outdoors prefer if they had a fire that would be a plus.
Thanks.
SS
Hey guys,
I'm planning a trip to Colombia and will be doing a 10 days each split between Cartagena and Medellin, anyone know some good hotels that are chica friend that are close to the action / nightlife in Cartagena?Save yourself the headache and get an apartment with Juan Ventura.
Hi,
I am heading to CTG for one night for work.
I must use a hotel.
Please don't tell me about apartments.
Does anyone know of a few hotels that will allow one girl in no issues other than maybe a Cedulla check.
Don't really care about the cost.
Thanks in advance.
GiveAsIGet
01-10-14, 01:22
I don't like clubs, casas, pimps, or mp. I only do man to girl negotiations, freelancers or streetwalkers.
What can I expect to pay for a reasonably attractive woman (6 and above) there short time? I am 60's young looking, handsome they tell me and not fat. I speak a little Spanish, not that much. What are the street girls like there compared to say Mexico or other countries?
I don't like clubs, casas, pimps, or mp. I only do man to girl negotiations, freelancers or streetwalkers.
What can I expect to pay for a reasonably attractive woman (6 and above) there short time? I am 60's young looking, handsome they tell me and not fat. I speak a little Spanish, not that much. What are the street girls like there compared to say Mexico or other countries?If you will read the forum you will find answers to most of your questions.
Hi,
I am heading to CTG for one night for work.
I must use a hotel.
Please don't tell me about apartments.
Does anyone know of a few hotels that will allow one girl in no issues other than maybe a Cedulla check.
Don't really care about the cost.
Thanks in advance.Try reading some and all of the answers are there. Members aren't going to use their time give you all of the information when it is obvious that you don't want to spend any of yours doing your own research. If you ask a specific question you might get an answer but not one that demonstrates you don't want to put forth any effort
LocoGringo
01-10-14, 12:23
Hi,
I am heading to CTG for one night for work.
I must use a hotel.
Please don't tell me about apartments.
Does anyone know of a few hotels that will allow one girl in no issues other than maybe a Cedulla check.
Don't really care about the cost.
Thanks in advance.Try the Hampton in Boca Grande, many 2 or 3 star hotels are not a problem. Stay away from Hilton, Dann, although with only 1 guest they should be ok with cedula.
Try reading some and all of the answers are there. Members aren't going to use their time give you all of the information when it is obvious that you don't want to spend any of yours doing your own research. If you ask a specific question you might get an answer but not one that demonstrates you don't want to put forth any effortI have read all the posts and many are conflicting and jump from the original question (hotel) to apartments and then the whole topic switches to apartments, Since things change quickly in CTG, I am hoping to get some "current" information from people who frequent the place more than me.
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