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AmorPorFavor
06-25-21, 20:39
OK, that sounds more realistic. I thought $41 was high. $10 sounds more in line with what I see here in Medellin. This is why it is important to understand the local economy and not think in terms of the Gringo economy. Like I said, I've tipped babes 10 - 20 mil and they were happy.Minimum wage in the USA is $7. 25-$15 an hour. A hot young hooker in the US makes $400-$1,000 an hour. They don't work for minimum wage. I've got better use of my time when on vacation than to haggle with poor hookers over $14, less than what I pay for a glass of wine in a restaurant at home. Yes I will throw out a lower number but if it is not accepted without hesitation I just pay the puny amount. I don't want to risk poor service over hard feelings, I want it to be full GFE which it usually with me. And I will tip them if its a great experience. I think of it as charity to the third world.

LatinaLover#1
06-25-21, 20:45
OK, that sounds more realistic. I thought $41 was high. $10 sounds more in line with what I see here in Medellin. This is why it is important to understand the local economy and not think in terms of the Gringo economy. Like I said, I've tipped babes 10 - 20 mil and they were happy.Jaja that's less than 3 dollars, that's a good tip for an hotel employee for some special services but for a hot session from a Colombiana hermosa it's a little low. But always remember the hombre is the El Rey and always maintain that status, and they will respect you more.

LatinaLover#1
06-25-21, 20:50
Minimum wage in the USA is $7. 25-$15 an hour. A hot young hooker in the US makes $400-$1,000 an hour. They don't work for minimum wage. I've got better use of my time when on vacation than to haggle with poor hookers over $14, less than what I pay for a glass of wine in a restaurant at home. Yes I will throw out a lower number but if it is not accepted without hesitation I just pay the puny amount. I don't want to risk poor service over hard feelings, I want it to be full GFE which it usually with me. And I will tip them if its a great experience. I think of it as charity to the third world.Your description of gringa working girls is the exact reason I don't session in the states and haven't for quite a few years now. Seems to me the states availability has shrunk down to 2 choices, a crude tatted up stripper or a frumpy LL Bean type which neither of which do I care to partake.

Xpartan
06-25-21, 21:21
Minimum wage in the USA is $7. 25-$15 an hour. A hot young hooker in the US makes $400-$1,000 an hour. They don't work for minimum wage.Of course, not every young and hot hooker in the US can make $400-1,000 an hour, but you're actually making a good point that we often overlook. Hookers all over the world work for much more than a minimum wage. On the other hand, it needs to be remembered that they don't get an hourly rate. They might get one or two clients a day, or, sometimes, none at all.

Orgasmico
06-25-21, 23:54
Minimum wage in the USA is $7. 25-$15 an hour. A hot young hooker in the US makes $400-$1,000 an hour. They don't work for minimum wage. I've got better use of my time when on vacation than to haggle with poor hookers over $14, less than what I pay for a glass of wine in a restaurant at home. Yes I will throw out a lower number but if it is not accepted without hesitation I just pay the puny amount. I don't want to risk poor service over hard feelings, I want it to be full GFE which it usually with me. And I will tip them if its a great experience. I think of it as charity to the third world.Like I said, how you spend you money is your business. I never knock someone about their budget. Just saying I typically tip 10 - 20 mil and never got any complaints.

Orgasmico
06-25-21, 23:58
But always remember the hombre is the El Rey and always maintain that status, and they will respect you more.That goes without saying. I'm usually about good conversation and establishing a rapport. If a chica provides good service or is something special, I'll get her WhatsApp. 10 mil is a meal for these chicas is how I view it. I don't think of things in dollars.

True story. I told my insurance agent that I often pay my cleaning lady between 40-45 mil. He asked me 1,000 questions about how big is my apartment, does that include ironing, cooking, etc. I got the sense that he felt like I was overpaying. It typically takes about 6 hours to clean my place. But that gave me some insight into how Colombians think about the value of the peso when paying for services.

I understand though when gringos are on vaca and think of things in dollars and what the same thing might cost in the USA. I find putang to be extremely cheap here, even for Colombians, but most things cost more for tourists.

About a month ago a really pretty chica with big tits and ass charged me 30 mil in Medellin. I had to ask her twice because the value seemed to far exceed the cost. The session was fantastic. Ass was an incredible cushion. I gave her the 30 mil, which included the room. And she was happy.

AmorPorFavor
06-26-21, 01:41
Like I said, how you spend you money is your business. I never knock someone about their budget. Just saying I typically tip 10 - 20 mil and never got any complaints.Well I would say that it all depends on what you are fucking. In Columbia I'm only interested in 9's and 10's.

Mr Enternational
06-26-21, 04:23
Jaja that's less than 3 dollars, that's a good tip for an hotel employee for some special services but for a hot session from a Colombiana hermosa it's a little low. Well that is $3 more than I give them, and like him, I have not gotten any complaints either.

Mr Enternational
06-26-21, 05:40
I understand though when gringos are on vaca and think of things in dollars and what the same thing might cost in the USA. I find putang to be extremely cheap here, even for Colombians, but most things cost more for tourists.I like to keep things in perspective as well. Today I paid 114,000 pesos ($30) for a 2 hour ride from Barranquilla to Santa Marta. How much would that cost where you are from? Since I am from Atlanta, I put the 2 hour ride to Birmingham, Alabama into Uber and it came back with $180.

Who all is itching to pay more for the ride that I took today because a similar ride where they are from costs 6 times more? Maybe I could have met the guy in the middle paying $90; 3 times what it really costs and only half what it would cost back home. Is that a good practice? Because it sounds fucking stupid to me.

You could not get away going to a more expensive place and telling them it is cheaper at home so you will pay less, so why go to a cheaper place and pay more based on home? Home has shit to do with anything when you are abroad. If the exchange rate was half of what it is now like it was my first time in Cartagena (what 10 years ago?) I doubt this would even be a discussion.

P. S. I am usually in the van or bus for 30,000 pesos on this route. This was my first time taking a ride share because of the exchange rate. If the rate changed back, I could always go back to a bus or van (I will be taking one Sunday anyway when I leave here), but those chicks y'all have trained to take 250,000 pesos ain't going back to 125,000.

Orgasmico
06-26-21, 10:13
Well I would say that it all depends on what you are fucking. In Columbia I'm only interested in 9's and 10's.Naw, it depends on who you are, how you carry yourself, and how you relate to the people you are dealing with. I'm in Colombia, not Columbia. I live in Colombia so my perspective may be different. I see dimes every day in Medellin so it ain't no biggie. I would hope most dudes here are interested in quality, however they define that.

AmorPorFavor
06-26-21, 17:08
Naw, it depends on who you are, how you carry yourself, and how you relate to the people you are dealing with. I'm in Colombia, not Columbia. I live in Colombia so my perspective may be different. I see dimes every day in Medellin so it ain't no biggie. I would hope most dudes here are interested in quality, however they define that.So a 5 costs the same as a dime for you and you tip the dimes 10 mil or $2. 70 US?

Mr Enternational
06-26-21, 19:24
So a 5 costs the same as a dime for you and you tip the dimes 10 mil or $2. 70 US?Beauty is subjective. You know how many pictures on here that I have seen of someone bragging of some 10 they have fucked but to me looked like a 2, and I am sure it has been the same for some chicks I have posted.

Why do you have it in your head that you not only must give extra money, but must give a lot extra if the girl looks really good to you? You pay the price that you negotiate. There is no need to give tips because you fucked the girl. Yesterday when I caught a taxi I did not give extra. Today when I ate at a restaurant I did not give extra (service charge already included on most bills). For the condo I am staying in I did not give extra. Why give extra for fucking someone?

Nypher
06-26-21, 21:36
Beauty is subjective. You know how many pictures on here that I have seen of someone bragging of some 10 they have fucked but to me looked like a 2, and I am sure it has been the same for some chicks I have posted.

Why do you have it in your head that you not only must give extra money, but must give a lot extra if the girl looks really good to you? You pay the price that you negotiate. There is no need to give tips because you fucked the girl. Yesterday when I caught a taxi I did not give extra. Today when I ate at a restaurant I did not give extra (service charge already included on most bills). For the condo I am staying in I did not give extra. Why give extra for fucking someone?Spot on!

Different mongers different tastes and they pay what they want depending on their budget and negotiating skills. I've travelled with mongers in the past who only wanted light skin girls because they don't get attention from light skin girls state side, same with mongers who only wanted big girls. The problem that I personally have with this is that when those gringos who look similar to me overpays, the chica gets it in her head that she is now worth this high price from those similar looking gringos. I've walked away from so many potential new chica connects because of this.


Naw, it depends on who you are, how you carry yourself, and how you relate to the people you are dealing with. I'm in Colombia, not Columbia. I live in Colombia so my perspective may be different. I see dimes every day in Medellin so it ain't no biggie. I would hope most dudes here are interested in quality, however they define that.Exactly! The Sosua Effect.

Gringos travel to third world countries or developing countries and start getting attention from a exotic women that they don't get in their home country. So to them everything is new and shiny. But after seeing how common the exotic look among the women are it will be the same as going into the grocery store and picking up sliced bread. Grab a loaf, look at the sell by date and its in the shopping kart jajaja.


Well I would say that it all depends on what you are fucking. In Columbia I'm only interested in 9's and 10's.9's and 10's are personal internal choices of beauty standards for your individual experience.

Some mongers like big women, to them 113 Kilos is sexy VS some mongers like women that are so skinny they look like boys that haven't eaten in years.

Some mongers like the darker wet look VS some mongers like the light skin only.

Some mongers like dark wet looking hair VS some mongers only like blonde even though its bleached jajaja.

Some mongers like virgin skin no tatts VS some are opposite who thinks a girl that look like a walking wall of graffiti is sexy.

Some mongers like fake ass and fake titties VS some who want all natural no implants / fat transfers / tummy tuck surgeries, etc.

Some mongers like girls who look like a walking pin cushion VS those who like no face or body piercings.

Gritzzyy
06-27-21, 00:12
So I sold my Doge Coins and made A little Profit =P. Since Colombia (Cartagena) Was On My Bucket List This Will be my First Country I splurge In for My 30th Birthday August 4. Looking To team up with some experienced folks. I'll Bbe staying at the Intercontinental! PM me if interested!

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AmorPorFavor
06-27-21, 01:12
Beauty is subjective. You know how many pictures on here that I have seen of someone bragging of some 10 they have fucked but to me looked like a 2, and I am sure it has been the same for some chicks I have posted.

Why do you have it in your head that you not only must give extra money, but must give a lot extra if the girl looks really good to you? You pay the price that you negotiate. There is no need to give tips because you fucked the girl. Yesterday when I caught a taxi I did not give extra. Today when I ate at a restaurant I did not give extra (service charge already included on most bills). For the condo I am staying in I did not give extra. Why give extra for fucking someone?Because I am generous and tip for good service. Especially in a poor country. Is $14 a lot of money to you?

Mr Enternational
06-27-21, 02:21
Because I am generous and tip for good service. Especially in a poor country. Is $14 a lot of money to you?Depends on the context of the $14. But I tend to work within cultures and not spread my way or the way we do things back home around the world.

AmorPorFavor
06-27-21, 02:46
Depends on the context of the $14. But I tend to work within cultures and not spread my way or the way we do things back home around the world.Sounds to me like you are just cheap. I'm sure nobody who I ever tipped in a poor country was offended by my culture of tipping for good service. You will be horrified to know that in Jan 20 I gave a chica 300 mil when we had agreed on 200 after she spent 5 hours in bed with me, unlimited sex, insane blowjobs for probably an hour in total, 2 CIM's and BBFS. She was very grateful and she earned it.

Mr Enternational
06-27-21, 14:37
Sounds to me like you are just cheap. I am defintely cheap when it comes to hookers. Catching a nut is not worth much to me when there are tons of normal chicks that I am already fucking for free. I prefer to spend more money on the stable or longer term relationship side of things or on durable goods for myself instead of the hourly fuck session.

New top of the line firearm coming out: Here is my $1500 for it. Me and my girl are going on a trip: Sure I will spring for the beachfront suite. Fucking some random hooker for a few minutes: I could do in a back alley and give that broad $10. I am not trying to impress her or gain brownie points by being Mister Big Tipper.

Sawassdee
06-27-21, 16:00
Beauty is subjective. You know how many pictures on here that I have seen of someone bragging of some 10 they have fucked but to me looked like a 2, and I am sure it has been the same for some chicks I have posted.
Subjective is so right but not widely understood by many.

Years ago I was at Terma 4 x4 in Brazil and I saw this American guy with a chick that to me was overweight and someone I would only fuck in private at night for free. I glanced at his face and I saw that he had the biggest fucking shit eating happiest grin I had ever seen with his arm wrapped tightly around this chick and looking her in the eyes.

It was at this precise moment I realized he was the luckiest man in the world. He was fucking EXACTLY what he wanted to fuck (or thought of as a 10) AT THAT MOMENT without a care in the world of anybody elses thoughts.

I found and still find that my taste in women physically have, and still change damn near daily. I just want to fuck the chick I want at that moment.

An old Spanish professor told a group of us young boys back in High school that there is no such thing as an ugly girl. Now I truly understand and appreciate that wisdom.

Tribute15
06-27-21, 16:05
I am defintely cheap when it comes to hookers. Catching a nut is not worth much to me when there are tons of normal chicks that I am already fucking for free. I prefer to spend more money on the stable or longer term relationship side of things or on durable goods for myself instead of the hourly fuck session.

New top of the line firearm coming out: Here is my $1500 for it. Me and my girl are going on a trip: Sure I will spring for the beachfront suite. Fucking some random hooker for a few minutes: I could do in a back alley and give that broad $10. I am not trying to impress her or gain brownie points by being Mister Big Tipper.Mr. E never fails to disappoint. It's a transaction nothing more. Money for pussy.

The Tall Man
06-27-21, 16:11
Subjective is so right but not widely understood by many.

Years ago I was at Terma 4 x4 in Brazil and I saw this American guy with a chick that to me was overweight and someone I would only fuck in private at night for free. I glanced at his face and I saw that he had the biggest fucking shit eating happiest grin I had ever seen with his arm wrapped tightly around this chick and looking her in the eyes.

It was at this precise moment I realized he was the luckiest man in the world. He was fucking EXACTLY what he wanted to fuck (or thought of as a 10) AT THAT MOMENT without a care in the world of anybody elses thoughts.

I found and still find that my taste in women physically have, and still change damn near daily. I just want to fuck the chick I want at that moment.

An old Spanish professor told a group of us young boys back in High school that there is no such thing as an ugly girl. Now I truly understand and appreciate that wisdom.I have seen this played out too and I also have been the guy with the 'shit eating luckiest guy in the world look' and my Colombian buddies just could not wrap their heads around why I was with this costena from Santa Marta, we all have our reasons and well here is mine:

It is simple, have you ever listened to the words of the AC / DC song Rossie, yes this was my Rossie, she ain't son pretty, she ain't so small, but 42" and 39" and 56" let me tell you she GOT IT ALL!

I enjoyed her for 2 years, think she moved back to the coast.

Much love and respect to all now go find your Rossie!

The Tall Man.

Orgasmico
06-27-21, 17:54
Let's not get into name calling. The point I wanted to raise is for newbies that read these threads. It is important to know the local economy in all instances. Here in Colombia pussie is cheap relative to what you guys pay in the USA.

What you spend is your business and no one should criticize you for how you chose to spend your money. Some guys tip and some don't. Do you. No one is discouraging anyone from paying or tipping (big or small). You can pay whatever makes you feel good. Life is about happiness. If you get something extra or better because you tipped or payed more, good for you. More power to you.

At the same time, I notice no difference between tipping 20 mil and 50 mil as both can go a long way here. I get the same smile and eagerness to hook up in the future. But that is MY experience. Everyone is different. It isn't about the value of a tip to me (in dollars), but the value to her (in pesos). Also, when I do choose to tip, it is because I'm getting something extra. Just good service to me is not something extra; it is expected. Tipping as a cultural norm like in the USA is much different than here in Colombia.

Happy Mongering!!

Xpartan
06-27-21, 20:39
Tipping as a cultural norm like in the USA is much different than here in Colombia.

Happy Mongering!!Yep. And not only in Colombia, but in almost all other places in the world. American tourists have spoiled local markets and not by just tipping, but tipping ridiculously large sums like 15-25%. In many countries, even when tipping is expected, it might be just a few euros, or rounding up or maybe 7-10% (what Brits normally tip, if at all). As a result, people in many parts of the world where tipping has never been customary, proactively ask for tips as if it's a fucking norm now.

Orgasmico
06-27-21, 21:15
Yep. And not only in Colombia, but in almost all other places in the world. American tourists have spoiled local markets and not by just tipping, but tipping ridiculously large sums like 15-25%. In many countries, even when tipping is expected, it might be just a few euros, or rounding up or maybe 7-10% (what Brits normally tip, if at all). As a result, people in many parts of the world where tipping has never been customary, proactively ask for tips as if it's a fucking norm now.I hear you. In Colombia, they already include a VOLUNTARY 10% tip in many gringo / tourist areas (and maybe even some other areas). That is kind of the marker for me in terms of the fact that many Colombians just don't volunteer to include the tip and also that it is 10%. Many tourists don't realize this about the 10% and will tip 20% or more on top of the 10% already included in the bill.

I have nothing against anyone getting more money. But, the point you make about raising expectations is a legitimate one, of course. You can only control your own actions, which is why I don't sweat it. People say this is what happened in places like Costa Rica. Then, after the fact, people complain about why prices are so high LOL? I've even heard that, in places like Sosua, some girls are getting $200 USD.

Someone mentioned something about making sure she knows you're the man or something like that, in regards to tipping. To me, the most important thing to realize is that it is a buyer's market and we have control, if we know how to use the power. When guys operate like it is a seller's market, it sometimes can be baffling. But hey, to each his own.

Mr Enternational
06-27-21, 22:45
Then, after the fact, people complain about why prices are so high LOL? I've even heard that, in places like Sosua, some girls are getting $200 USD.Shit. I know they are. Don't know if you saw the video a couple of weeks ago about the guy in Sosua paying the chick $100, but she tried to change it after the fact and say it was supposed to be $150. And people said that they only do cheapskates like me that way. I have never given a Sosua chick even half of $100. Here this man agrees to $100 and she still tries to rip him off. I think she stole his necklace too, but he did not realize it until it was too late. Damn. Stole his shit and stuck around to argue for more money. These mfs are relentless. And some mongers have the nerve to kiss up to them. LOL.

GreenBud
06-27-21, 23:29
In Colombia, they already include a VOLUNTARY 10% tip in many gringo / tourist areas (and maybe even some other areas).


Many tourists don't realize this about the 10%- In Colombia, they automatically add the 10% voluntary tip in upscale restaurants. No one will refuse. That is probably why you noticed the 10% tip in the tourist areas since the restaurants will be more expensive. From my experiences, they are always happy with the 10% and always give good service. I never experienced the complaint a previous poster made in which the server wanted more than 10%.

- At nice mid-level restaurants, the server will usually ask you if you want to add the tip.

- At lower end restaurants, the server won't ask. If you want to tip, you have to say "con servicio". I tip; so I guess I'm part of the wave that will ruin Colombia. LOL!

- The above applies to restaurants. WTF is with the nightclubs and strip joints in Mexico and Colombia. The waiters will try to scam the tourist; they will overcharge you. Is it the same in other Latin American countries?

Mr Enternational
06-27-21, 23:36
WTF is with the nightclubs and strip joints in Mexico and Colombia. The waiters will try to scam the tourist; they will overcharge you. Is it the same in other Latin American countries?I do not think it is a scam. I think they just assume you are going to give it anyway and save you the trouble by adding it. Because I mean why not. No need to be cheap.

OnFireBoy
06-27-21, 23:46
To report that as of last Friday the curfew hours changed from 00:00 to 05:00 every day, it was extended for two more hours each night.

GreenBud
06-28-21, 00:02
I do not think it is a scam. I think they just assume you are going to give it anyway and save you the trouble by adding it. Because I mean why not.- Sometimes they add a 100% tip. I hate being scammed. I'm somewhat mentally sick in which half my day is ruined because I get angry because I got ripped off for a few dollars. I always tip. But I would prefer to tip 3 K rather than the waiter adding 2 K.

- What's the Colombian standard, in terms of tipping, when ordering from a waiter at a strip joint or a nightclub?


No need to be cheap.I prefer to give my unnecessary tips to girls rather than the waiters. The waiters don't suck my dick.

Combo
06-28-21, 00:17
Shit. I know they are. Don't know if you saw the video a couple of weeks ago about the guy in Sosua paying the chick $100, but she tried to change it after the fact and say it was supposed to be $150. And people said that they only do cheapskates like me that way. I have never given a Sosua chick even half of $100. Here this man agrees to $100 and she still tries to rip him off. I think she stole his necklace too, but he did not realize it until it was too late. Damn. Stole his shit and stuck around to argue for more money. These mfs are relentless. And some mongers have the nerve to kiss up to them. LOL.My guess is she was emboldened to try to scam him because he was stupid enough to agree to $100 in the first place. Unless you're grossly obese or don't wipe your ass, you can get the hottest chica in Sosua for about $50. This guy tipped her off that he was a fool and she took it a step farther.

Xpartan
06-28-21, 05:21
- Sometimes they add a 100% tip. I hate being scammed. I'm somewhat mentally sick in which half my day is ruined because I get angry because I got ripped off for a few dollars. I always tip. But I would prefer to tip 3 K rather than the waiter adding 2 K.There are plenty of restaurants in the USA That do the same thing (think some areas of NYC or Miami Beach). And then they have the audacity to add an additional TIPS line to your check after ripping you off for 17-20% with the service charges.


I prefer to give my unnecessary tips to girls rather than the waiters. The waiters don't suck my dick.Well, this is where I respectfully disagree. The whole concept of tipping, IMHO, to help low-wage employees in the service industry to make ends meet. And it doesn't matter how much you pay the girl who sucks your dick or how grateful you are, she makes more money, a lot more in fact, than your typical waitress, maid, or cabby. That's my philosophy, anyway.

GreenBud
06-28-21, 05:35
That's my philosophy, anyway.Good philosophy.

GrownMan1
06-28-21, 12:05
”you can get the hottest chica in Sosua for about $50”.Really?! Huh OK. Cross your fingers but don't hold your breath. Some of the baddest chicas charge 100 to 150 a night. Currently 3000 pesos ($52) or higher is the beginning asking price for most chicas ST. But I see your point.

MarquisdeSade1
06-28-21, 21:52
Sounds to me like you are just cheap..What is this word "cheap".

At the risk of leading the witness, here is mine.

Frugal.

Froo-guhl.

See synonyms for: frugal / frugality on Thesaurus.com.

Adjective.

Economical in use or expenditure; prudently saving or sparing; not wasteful:

What your office needs is a frugal manager who can save you money without resorting to painful cutbacks.

I know many things to do with my money than be overcharged by third world putas aka flushing it down the shitter.

Mongering alert 101 there isn't any "status" in being overcharged.

Correction, there is always 3rd world puta "chump status".

In my travels I have seen that most really poor people don't even see genuine "generosity" as kindness but rather view it as desperate / weakness and stoopidity.

MarquisdeSade1
06-28-21, 21:54
Beauty is subjective. You know how many pictures on here that I have seen of someone bragging of some 10 they have fucked but to me looked like a 2, and I am sure it has been the same for some chicks I have posted.

Why do you have it in your head that you not only must give extra money, but must give a lot extra if the girl looks really good to you? You pay the price that you negotiate. There is no need to give tips because you fucked the girl. Yesterday when I caught a taxi I did not give extra. Today when I ate at a restaurant I did not give extra (service charge already included on most bills). For the condo I am staying in I did not give extra. Why give extra for fucking someone?And Touche'.

Mojo Bandit
06-28-21, 23:11
- In Colombia, they automatically add the 10% voluntary tip in upscale restaurants. No one will refuse. T


I do not think it is a scam. I think they just assume you are going to give it anyway and save you the trouble by adding it. Because I mean why not. No need to be cheap.


There are plenty of restaurants in the USA That do the same thing (think some areas of NYC or Miami Beach). And then they have the audacity to add an additional TIPS line to your check after ripping you off for 17-20% with the service charges..I used to manage restaurants years ago and I have to throw in here that in many restaurants, it does not matter how fancy or expensive really it just matters how it is staffed, so in many restaurants that tip could end up being split up to four ways, some places the tip is split down between the wait person, the bus person, the bartender who made the drinks and then sometimes there is a person doing salads and desserts who has to be tipped out too. If you are at very place then you also have to account for the maître the' getting a cut and if you drink wine there is the Sommelier. At a bare minimum unless the place is really slow the wait people are tipping out to the bus people (10% of there tips) and the bartender (20% of their tips) , as some one who worked in the industry my view is that not tipping enough isn't just not cool, its straight up being freeloader.

That being said I think we can all agree that if Colombia wants gringos to tip they need to learn to go back to that table once in a while a say "Hola, Necesitas algo más" instead of me having to practically chase the waitress into the kitchen at Crepes and Waffles to let her know we would like to order dessert. LOL.

MarquisdeSade1
06-28-21, 23:46
I used to manage restaurants years ago and I have to throw in here that in many restaurants, it does not matter how fancy or expensive really it just matters how it is staffed, so in many restaurants that tip could end up being split up to four ways, some places the tip is split down between the wait person, the bus person, the bartender who made the drinks and then sometimes there is a person doing salads and desserts who has to be tipped out too. If you are at very place then you also have to account for the matre the' getting a cut and if you drink wine there is the Sommelier. At a bare minimum unless the place is really slow the wait people are tipping out to the bus people (10% of there tips) and the bartender (20% of their tips) , as some one who worked in the industry my view is that not tipping enough isn't just not cool, its straight up being freeloader.

That being said I think we can all agree that if Colombia wants gringos to tip they need to learn to go back to that table once in a while a say "Hola, Necesitas algo ms" instead of me having to practically chase the waitress into the kitchen at Crepes and Waffles to let her know we would like to order dessert. LOL.Are the owners trying to push their labor costs onto us!

Nypher
06-29-21, 01:46
Shit. I know they are. Don't know if you saw the video a couple of weeks ago about the guy in Sosua paying the chick $100, but she tried to change it after the fact and say it was supposed to be $150. And people said that they only do cheapskates like me that way. I have never given a Sosua chick even half of $100. Here this man agrees to $100 and she still tries to rip him off. I think she stole his necklace too, but he did not realize it until it was too late. Damn. Stole his shit and stuck around to argue for more money. These mfs are relentless. And some mongers have the nerve to kiss up to them. LOL.I saw that video when it came out and shook my head in disappointment when I saw her face. My thoughts was that he over paid because she was licking his ass or he have some crazy fetish because she looked like someone who been out there too long walking those streets.

He paid her $100 for TLN which was way too high. This is one of the reasons many are no longer going to DR. The chicas became too Americanized when these mongers started paying them in $USD at US prices. I have friends who pay $300 a session in NYC / NJ and would travel to DR thinking $100 a session is a great deal not realizing they overpaid 4 X the price as its only 1500 pesos a session.

Xpartan
06-29-21, 06:35
I used to manage restaurants years ago and I have to throw in here that in many restaurants, it does not matter how fancy or expensive really it just matters how it is staffed, so in many restaurants that tip could end up being split up to four ways, some places the tip is split down between the wait person, the bus person, the bartender who made the drinks and then sometimes there is a person doing salads and desserts who has to be tipped out too. If you are at very place then you also have to account for the matre the' getting a cut and if you drink wine there is the Sommelier. At a bare minimum unless the place is really slow the wait people are tipping out to the bus people (10% of there tips) and the bartender (20% of their tips) , as some one who worked in the industry my view is that not tipping enough isn't just not cool, its straight up being freeloader.

That being said I think we can all agree that if Colombia wants gringos to tip they need to learn to go back to that table once in a while a say "Hola, Necesitas algo ms" instead of me having to practically chase the waitress into the kitchen at Crepes and Waffles to let her know we would like to order dessert. LOL.I understand where you stand, but our tipping culture should stay within our borders. There is no need to spread this nonsense around the world. If you believe in doing what Romans do, then tip like Romans in Rome, not like Americans in Rome, GA jaja.

OnFireBoy
06-29-21, 08:29
It must be borne in mind that in Colombia and especially in Cartagena, the restaurants and bars in the tourist area are focused on serving people who are not from Cartagena, and for most local people it is a luxury to eat or spend a night drinking cocktails and beers in a bar in the center or Bocagrande as you do.

In Colombia, the minimum wage is approximately COP 900 k, but let's be honest that is not enough to support a single person, much less a family and unfortunately in Latin America the poorer a family is, the larger it is, and the more children they have.

So if you see a waiter or a bartender or a kitchen assistant in a restaurant or bar or disco in the tourist area, most likely they are being paid the legal minimum and many times less than that, but then because they accept to work In those conditions if, in the end, they didn't even have enough to eat with that money? Yes, you are correct the tips!

With this, I am not saying that you are forced to pay a tip anywhere even if the service was bad, because first of all it is not mandatory and second I believe that tips are earned with the attitude of good service and dedication to doing feel to the client that they are being well cared for and that it is important to them.

Normally the waiter asks if you want to include the service, which is 10% by default, but you have the freedom to say that you want to pay 5% or whatever amount you decide on the account or that you do not want to include it or tell them not to include in the account but that you are going to pay separately to the person who attended you, and for a person whose day is COP 30 K = 10 USD, receive a tip that is half or even less than what they earn in a day whole work is more than enough.

El Moreno 92
06-29-21, 12:59
Fresh back from a 4 day run in Cartagena. This is my 6th time and I got to say, the quality of the babes was as high as ever for me. The curfew put a damper on things but we adapted. Stayed in Bocagrande and had no issue bringing in talent in our AirBnB. Did the beach during the day everyday except one day. Each day snagged a nice on from the beach for 200 k. Anyone saying their paying 100 k on the beach me be paying that but the quality is not that good at that price. Did one day hanging out walking around the Old City and met some stunners just out walking. Nice Cuban Cigar spot called Tobaco why Ron showed us a good time when we brought in some babes we met out walking the please City. Tried Delirium at night and that's just not my scene. Just to packed and to dam loud. Maybe 10 years ago I could party there but not now. Parked it in Dolce Vita and Space every night and had no problem landing stars. They all started at 300 k and I only got one down to 250 k. I too wear flip flops and shorts out at night. I want the babes to know I am a target. I'm not showing up in Versace of I got to pay anyway. All and all, had a fantastic time and going back soon. I prefer Cartagena over Medellin because of the beach and how close everything is. Last thing, those Venezuelan babes know how to party in Cartagena. We got back to my place and we drank and partied for a few hours before any sex popped off. Great time. If that government ever gets its act together, I'll be a regular in Venezuela!Check your DM.

Nyezhov
06-29-21, 14:37
Yep. And not only in Colombia, but in almost all other places in the world. American tourists have spoiled local markets and not by just tipping, but tipping ridiculously large sums like 15-25%. In many countries, even when tipping is expected, it might be just a few euros, or rounding up or maybe 7-10% (what Brits normally tip, if at all). As a result, people in many parts of the world where tipping has never been customary, proactively ask for tips as if it's a fucking norm now.Like me! Bwahahahahah, the dreadlocked cheap charlie backpackers hated me in Cambodia because I would tip a $1.50 on a 50 cent beer LOL.

The money is funny there, that's how it worked out.

Mr Enternational
06-29-21, 14:39
Are the owners trying to push their labor costs onto us!Which is exactly how tipping in the US got started. One of the many great magic tricks pulled off in our country over the centuries. It is akin to the one about explorers arriving with bibles and locals having gold, but when the explorers leave they have the gold and the locals have the bibles.

Paulie97
06-29-21, 15:52
Well, this is where I respectfully disagree. The whole concept of tipping, IMHO, to help low-wage employees in the service industry to make ends meet. And it doesn't matter how much you pay the girl who sucks your dick or how grateful you are, she makes more money, a lot more in fact, than your typical waitress, maid, or cabby.None of this is complicated, nor are there any conspiracies to pick on cheapskate mongers in need of something to complain about. It's just our system. Wait staff work for tips. If employers in the industry were compelled to pay them a livable wage then the price of meals would be higher, as they so often are in other developed economies with different systems like in Western Europe. Stiffing a waitress who gave adequate or better service is just low. End of story.

TheKid1989
06-29-21, 17:02
Back down here I found a few girls willing to fuck for $20 usd 75000 mil pesos but I'm a be honest they ain't much to look at. This is end of night stuff prices go down a lot LOL.

Mojo Bandit
06-29-21, 17:31
Are the owners trying to push their labor costs onto us!It is the simplest of economics. All labor costs are passed on to customers but that does not translate into higher profit for the owners. Restaurants operate in the most competitive industry there is. Because restaurants are what economist call an "easy entry" business compared to say the cable tv business where you would have to spend millions running wires all over the city to get started (which is of course why most cable companies are either a monopoly or an oligopoly in most cities) , for a restaurant you need maybe a grill and a refrigerator, table and chairs. The restaurant that I managed ran in the red 6 days a week and only went into the black on Sundays when the after church families packed the place wall to wall. I talked to enough other managers to know this phenomena of not making a profit most days was common.

If we were not tipping we would be paying about 20% more for the food. Restaurant work when its busy is high pressure and high stress controlled chaos, its why they say most cooks are drug addicts, I used to give my most talented line cook a "marijuana break" when things were about to get hairy. No one is going to do that work for less than what is being earned now.

Because of competition one also better have a sensible exit strategy because 60% of restaurants fail in the first year and 80% fail within five years (some of that extra 20% who held on for over year did not have sensible exit strategy and lost their shirt and their underwear, where as those who got out in the first year only lost their shirt). So because the restaurant business is so competitive the profit margins are tiny in most cases, of course there are exceptions for people that choose to pay more at fancy restaurants but the average sit down and order restaurant is trying to squeeze a dime out of a dollar.

Tipping is part of capitalism. You want to know what countries do not have tipping? - countries like France who's labor laws have been overly influenced by socialist policies and unions mandating high wages.

I had to deal with a stupid fucking union trying to tell me how many hours to schedule my cooks. Since cooks get paid wages and not tips, this could have literally shut us down because the revenues from the volume of business would not carry that labor percentage cost without raising prices to the point that it would have deterred customers and cause lost volume. I fucked with the unions though, I would only hire college students, then have them bring me their class schedule and then I would schedule them on days they had class, then when they came and said they had class I would tell them to call in and that it was an "excused" call in and would not count against them.

Xpartan
06-29-21, 17:49
Like me! Bwahahahahah, the dreadlocked cheap charlie backpackers hated me in Cambodia because I would tip a $1.50 on a 50 cent beer LOL.

The money is funny there, that's how it worked out.But hooker prices in PP ain't funny at all, which just reinforces my point. There is no need for tipping working girls (although I have broken this rule myself on more than one occasion, LOL).

MarquisdeSade1
06-29-21, 19:34
It is the simplest of economics. All labor costs are passed on to customers but that does not translate into higher profit for the owners. Restaurants operate in the most competitive industry there is. Because restaurants are what economist call an "easy entry" business compared to say the cable tv business where you would have to spend millions running wires all over the city to get started (which is of course why most cable companies are either a monopoly or an oligopoly in most cities) , for a restaurant you need maybe a grill and a refrigerator, table and chairs. The restaurant that I managed ran in the red 6 days a week and only went into the black on Sundays when the after church families packed the place wall to wall. I talked to enough other managers to know this phenomena of not making a profit most days was common.

If we were not tipping we would be paying about 20% more for the food. Restaurant work when its busy is high pressure and high stress controlled chaos, its why they say most cooks are drug addicts, I used to give my most talented line cook a "marijuana break" when things were about to get hairy. No one is going to do that work for less than what is being earned now.

Because of competition one also better have a sensible exit strategy because 60% of restaurants fail in the first year and 80% fail within five years (some of that extra 20% who held on for over year did not have sensible exit strategy and lost their shirt and their underwear, where as those who got out in the first year only lost their shirt). So because the restaurant business is so competitive the profit margins are tiny in most cases, of course there are exceptions for people that choose to pay more at fancy restaurants but the average sit down and order restaurant is trying to squeeze a dime out of a dollar..If you are a business (any business) that has margins that are so thin they can't afford to pay their employees, get the fuck out of the market! No excuses.

Tipping is part of capitalism? According to whom? Those that benefit from it.

I suck at tipping I usually feel I left way too much or not enough, how about getting rid of it all together.

I'm guessing everyone would like that except resto owners.

MarquisdeSade1
06-29-21, 21:32
It is the simplest of economics. All labor costs are passed on to customers but that does not translate into higher profit for the owners. Restaurants operate in the most competitive industry there is. Because restaurants are what economist call an "easy entry" business compared to say the cable tv business where you would have to spend millions running wires all over the city to get started (which is of course why most cable companies are either a monopoly or an oligopoly in most cities) , for a restaurant you need maybe a grill and a refrigerator, table and chairs. The restaurant that I managed ran in the red 6 days a week and only went into the black on Sundays when the after church families packed the place wall to wall. I talked to enough other managers to know this phenomena of not making a profit most days was common.

If we were not tipping we would be paying about 20% more for the food. Restaurant work when its busy is high pressure and high stress controlled chaos, its why they say most cooks are drug addicts, I used to give my most talented line cook a "marijuana break" when things were about to get hairy. No one is going to do that work for less than what is being earned now.

Because of competition one also better have a sensible exit strategy because 60% of restaurants fail in the first year and 80% fail within five years (some of that extra 20% who held on for over year did not have sensible exit strategy and lost their shirt and their underwear, where as those who got out in the first year only lost their shirt). So because the restaurant business is so competitive the profit margins are tiny in most cases, of course there are exceptions for people that choose to pay more at fancy restaurants but the average sit down and order restaurant is trying to squeeze a dime out of a dollar..I'm guessing this is the mentality and the rationalizations slave owners used.

If a business (any business) can only afford to pay slave wages, that business needs to close, period.

Nypher
06-30-21, 01:42
Back down here I found a few girls willing to fuck for $20 usd 75000 mil pesos but I'm a be honest they ain't much to look at. This is end of night stuff prices go down a lot LOL.75 mil is way too low. That sounds like she didn't get any customers at all for the whole day and just needed money to get home or she was past her sell by date.

I wouldn't touch anything below 200 mil.

Mojo Bandit
06-30-21, 03:21
3 last comments and advice on this subject.

1. Tipping is a reality and its not going away.

2. How can you suck at tipping, Tipping is easy -as long as the wait person did not totally screw up you order. Look at the amount on the check she / he gives you and if there is no line item that says "service" or "gratuity" take out your phone and open the calculator and multiply by. 2 the industry standard is 20%.

3. If for whatever reason you do not tip, 20% do not return to that restaurant because it is also an industry standard that if you do not tip the next time they will spit in your food.


If you are a business (any business) that has margins that are so thin they can't afford to pay their employees, get the fuck out of the market! No excuses.

Tipping is part of capitalism? According to whom? Those that benefit from it.

I suck at tipping I usually feel I left way too much or not enough, how about getting rid of it all together.

I'm guessing everyone would like that except resto owners.

Mr Enternational
06-30-21, 03:48
2 the industry standard is 20%.
Who was in the room when that standard was set and what criteria did they use? Why can't the tip be per item? Like when I am in the airport club where drinks are free, I usually give them $1 per each drink I get. Would it be better to stick with the industry standard and tip 20% of 0?

MarquisdeSade1
06-30-21, 04:49
Who was in the room when that standard was set and what criteria did they use? Why can't the tip be per item? Like when I am in the airport club where drinks are free, I usually give them $1 per each drink I get. Would it be better to stick with the industry standard and tip 20% of 0?Then 18% then 20%.

Why not 50% or 100%? Or 150%.

TheKid1989
06-30-21, 05:07
Clock tower isn't were you pick females up the prices go up a lot here better off working tinder and Walking the beach.

Mojo Bandit
06-30-21, 06:20
Who was in the room when that standard was set and what criteria did they use? Why can't the tip be per item? Like when I am in the airport club where drinks are free, I usually give them $1 per each drink I get. Would it be better to stick with the industry standard and tip 20% of 0? To correct myself the standard is actually 15 - 20% but to your point your talking Apples to my Oranges. I was referring to the restaurant industry. Not the airport lounge industry. Apple and oranges. As explained here by Executive Traveler its not the same industry. So not the same standard. The people in those lounges are well paid and their livelihood is not dependent on tips. Unlike at a restaurant where the wait person makes $2. 13 an hour. This article gives the perspective and Australian. Australia does not have a tipping culture but apparently he agrees with you. About the dollar a drink anyway.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/should-you-tip-the-staff-in-us-airport-lounges

The Tall Man
06-30-21, 13:53
Which is exactly how tipping in the US got started. One of the many great magic tricks pulled off in our country over the centuries. It is akin to the one about explorers arriving with bibles and locals having gold, but when the explorers leave they have the gold and the locals have the bibles.Truer words have never been spoken. Spot on.

The Tall Man.

SouthernOcean
07-01-21, 11:16
Last time in Cartagena I used the Hotel El Viajero a couple of times. Although I have never had trouble bringing guests back to the airbnb I was using, I decided to see if the El Viajero had any nicer rooms. I rented the superior apartment with a kitchen and balcony, got to have a balcony in Cartagena. Has anyone stayed in the El Viajero for more than a few hours and has anyone stayed in the superior apartrment.

Nypher
07-01-21, 23:11
Clock tower isn't were you pick females up the prices go up a lot here better off working tinder and Walking the beach.Yes indeed.

As I've learned, I would get them from the beach in the day time and try them out for 200 mil, then if they were good I would get the whatsapp and call them back for TLN at 500 mil max.

The clocktower at night is where the girls start 300 mil por hora or 600 mil TLN, even up to 800 mil TLN.

But now even tinder chicas are saying $100 por hora, $200 TLN or $400 for the whole day which is absurd.

I've never had so many chicas in CTG talk to me in dollars.

TheKid1989
07-04-21, 02:52
Yes indeed.

As I've learned, I would get them from the beach in the day time and try them out for 200 mil, then if they were good I would get the whatsapp and call them back for TLN at 500 mil max.

The clocktower at night is where the girls start 300 mil por hora or 600 mil TLN, even up to 800 mil TLN.

But now even tinder chicas are saying $100 por hora, $200 TLN or $400 for the whole day which is absurd.

I've never had so many chicas in CTG talk to me in dollars.As soon they say 100 usd I counter them in cop mil. That when their tune change and they know your not a newbie tourist LOL.

Let's be serious a hot girl for $100 is a great deal deal but it's human nature to haggle.

Dekadent
07-04-21, 02:54
I'll be in Cartagena next weekend and the week after. Send me a private message if you're there and would like to meet up. I'm conversant in Spanish, but haven't mongered in Cartagena yet. I'm especially interested in places inexpensive or off the beaten path. If you're a senior member I'd be happy to buy you a drink and shoot the shit.

Orgasmico
07-04-21, 09:32
Yes indeed.


But now even tinder chicas are saying $100 por hora, $200 TLN or $400 for the whole day which is absurd.

I've never had so many chicas in CTG talk to me in dollars.Probably a lot more clowns going to CTG these days because of all the videos on Youtube now, and they are paying these inflated prices in dollars and talking about how much cheaper it is than Magic City in Atlanta or some spot in NYC.

Tomasb
07-04-21, 16:05
Last time in Cartagena I used the Hotel El Viajero a couple of times. Although I have never had trouble bringing guests back to the airbnb I was using, I decided to see if the El Viajero had any nicer rooms. I rented the superior apartment with a kitchen and balcony, got to have a balcony in Cartagena. Has anyone stayed in the El Viajero for more than a few hours and has anyone stayed in the superior apartrment.I have not stayed there yet but good to know they have nicer rooms. Do you recall how much you paid for the nicer room? I am coming in early October for a week and staying with a friend at the Hotel Santa Clara who has a timeshare arrangement with the Sofitel and they gave him two rooms. However, we all know that's it's next to impossible to sneak an uninvited guest into that hotel. Given that, I could see renting a room at the Viajero for a week as a backup. Convenient that's it's close to LDV too.

Orgasmico
07-04-21, 17:32
Last time in Cartagena I used the Hotel El Viajero a couple of times. Although I have never had trouble bringing guests back to the airbnb I was using, I decided to see if the El Viajero had any nicer rooms. I rented the superior apartment with a kitchen and balcony, got to have a balcony in Cartagena. Has anyone stayed in the El Viajero for more than a few hours and has anyone stayed in the superior apartrment.Which room did you rent that had a kitchen and balcony? And, you are saying that it is chica friendly? Did they ask for her cedula or exactly how did it work? https://viajerohostels.com/producto/cartagena/.

Xpartan
07-04-21, 21:36
Let's be serious a hot girl for $100 is a great deal deal but it's human nature to haggle.Well, LET us be serious. Nowhere in Colombia, a $100 ST girl is a great deal, even in CTG. One's well-advised to haggle well to bring their overly ambitious aspirations down a notch.

Black Page
07-04-21, 21:56
Well, LET us be serious. Nowhere in Colombia, a $100 ST girl is a great deal, even in CTG. You forgot the Dream Land, better known as Sex Prison for me, where many ISG members come from. Flood CTG with them, and this is the result. Sadly. I hope things will be back to normal and not to New Normal for when I will resume travelling.

Mr Enternational
07-04-21, 22:26
Let's be serious a hot girl for $100 is a great deal deal but it's human nature to haggle.Considering I paid one here in Medellin $13 yesterday with no haggling, and today haggled one down from $18 to $13, you must be new around here thinking 3 digits is a great deal.

Orgasmico
07-04-21, 22:33
Well, LET us be serious. Nowhere in Colombia, a $100 ST girl is a great deal, even in CTG. One's well-advised to haggle well to bring their overly ambitious aspirations down a notch.How many of these dudes make even $100 a day in the USA, yet they are willing to pay $100 for a nutt that might take 20-45 minutes on average.

Brother P
07-04-21, 22:49
How many of these dudes make even $100 a day in the USA, yet they are willing to pay $100 for a nutt that might take 20-45 minutes on average.I was there for NYs eve for a week. Most cuties were happy with 250 k. I didn't pay more than 300 k, and she was super hot! Yes you can find cheaper chicas if you want. Personally I'm comfortable with 250. I'll be back in a few weeks.

I really like Cartagena. Plenty to do, cabs are cheap. I've only began to learn the city.

I'm curious to know how the guys who live there deal with the tax issue.

Gritzzyy
07-05-21, 03:02
I was there for NYs eve for a week. Most cuties were happy with 250 k. I didn't pay more than 300 k, and she was super hot! Yes you can find cheaper chicas if you want. Personally I'm comfortable with 250. I'll be back in a few weeks.

I really like Cartagena. Plenty to do, cabs are cheap. I've only began to learn the city.

I'm curious to know how the guys who live there deal with the tax issue.I'll be out there Aug 3 - 8 at the Intercontinental [Email address deleted by Admin].

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GeneHickman
07-05-21, 04:24
As soon they say 100 usd I counter them in cop mil. That when their tune change and they know your not a newbie tourist LOL.

Let's be serious a hot girl for $100 is a great deal deal but it's human nature to haggle.$100 is a great deal if you are looking to be robbed! Seriously some of the "I will spend what it takes" types don't quite realize they are putting a target on themselves. Colombia is not a place to flaunt wealth. The only people who do that are the narco kingpins. And it's even dangerous for them. In their mind, when you negotiate some you are perceived as a part of the financial struggles, when you flaunt it, you are the problem! We are already at a handicap with that "Gringo" label, no need to magnify it! I guarantee you they will quote a native a different price to a gringo.

Colombia is a place to be simple, go under the radar, and get what you want quietly and efficiently. Dress simple, don't do anything to make yourself the center of attention, spend within range for what you are seeking, and be polite and keep moving.

In other words as has been said here ad nauseous, no dar pappaya. The rough price ranges for each venue of meeting are stated here regularly, so I have no idea why mfers try to be the big baller. It just cracks me up. Sadly those are the fools who often get what they are advertising for!

AmorPorFavor
07-05-21, 06:13
$100 is a great deal if you are looking to be robbed! Seriously some of the "I will spend what it takes" types don't quite realize they are putting a target on themselves. Colombia is not a place to flaunt wealth. The only people who do that are the narco kingpins. And it's even dangerous for them. In their mind, when you negotiate some you are perceived as a part of the financial struggles, when you flaunt it, you are the problem! We are already at a handicap with that "Gringo" label, no need to magnify it! I guarantee you they will quote a native a different price to a gringo.

Colombia is a place to be simple, go under the radar, and get what you want quietly and efficiently. Dress simple, don't do anything to make yourself the center of attention, spend within range for what you are seeking, and be polite and keep moving.

In other words as has been said here ad nauseous, no dar pappaya. The rough price ranges for each venue of meeting are stated here regularly, so I have no idea why mfers try to be the big baller. It just cracks me up. Sadly those are the fools who often get what they are advertising for!$100 is a lot of money? LOL. Where do you live?

GeneHickman
07-05-21, 12:09
$100 is a lot of money? LOL. Where do you live?Why you talking $ in Colombia? Sums it up for me. It doesn't matter if it's a lot to you or not, it's whether it's a lot to them. Guess some of you all just need to learn it the hard way.

Black Page
07-05-21, 14:21
Why you talking $ in Colombia? Sums it up for me. It doesn't matter if it's a lot to you or not, it's whether it's a lot to them. Guess some of you all just need to learn it the hard way.Scammers love to scam, and some scammed love to be scammed. Humans go beyond natural laws of predation.

Orgasmico
07-05-21, 15:18
Why you talking $ in Colombia? Sums it up for me. It doesn't matter if it's a lot to you or not, it's whether it's a lot to them. Guess some of you all just need to learn it the hard way.This is why CTG will eventually go the way of Sosua and San Jose, in terms of SIMPs ruining the game. Why dudes operate like it is a seller's market when, in actuality, it is a buyer's market, is a mystery. In the Hood, we call this Hustling Backwards. Instead of trying to get the most bang for your buck, it becomes about paying the most bucks for your bang.

Trojan22
07-05-21, 17:25
Hey guys. Quick question. Does the quality and quantity of chicas available in Cartagena vary between weekdays and weekends?

I'm trying to plan a 3-4 day trip and trying to figure out if I should do week days or weekend.

In your guys experience, is there a difference?

Thanks in advance.

TheKid1989
07-05-21, 18:22
Well, LET us be serious. Nowhere in Colombia, a $100 ST girl is a great deal, even in CTG. One's well-advised to haggle well to bring their overly ambitious aspirations down a notch.The most I'm willing to pay is 150 mil pesos I had a few girls for 50 mil pesos the point I was trying to make was people from.

Here who doesn't know what's going on down there hear $100 and think it's a great deal.

TheKid1989
07-05-21, 18:25
$100 is a great deal if you are looking to be robbed! Seriously some of the "I will spend what it takes" types don't quite realize they are putting a target on themselves. Colombia is not a place to flaunt wealth. The only people who do that are the narco kingpins. And it's even dangerous for them. In their mind, when you negotiate some you are perceived as a part of the financial struggles, when you flaunt it, you are the problem! We are already at a handicap with that "Gringo" label, no need to magnify it! I guarantee you they will quote a native a different price to a gringo.

Colombia is a place to be simple, go under the radar, and get what you want quietly and efficiently. Dress simple, don't do anything to make yourself the center of attention, spend within range for what you are seeking, and be polite and keep moving.

In other words as has been said here ad nauseous, no dar pappaya. The rough price ranges for each venue of meeting are stated here regularly, so I have no idea why mfers try to be the big baller. It just cracks me up. Sadly those are the fools who often get what they are advertising for!I'm not saying I would pay $100 USD I'm just saying others would because they don't know better I had a threesome for $50 and got a double BJ on the beach for $25. I always walk with exact cash and a $20 usd in my sock because you don't know which girl.

Is going to stop.

You when you had back to you're hotel or done.

GrownMan1
07-05-21, 19:34
Hey guys. Quick question. Does the quality and quantity of chicas available in Cartagena vary between weekdays and weekends?

I'm trying to plan a 3-4 day trip and trying to figure out if I should do week days or weekend.

In your guys experience, is there a difference?

Thanks in advance.My first trip to Cartagena I was there Monday through Saturday. I notice chica availability was greater getting closer to the weekend. I made a note to myself when I return it will be Thursday through Sunday or Monday.

When I made my second visit I did just that. Enjoyed my stay. I'll be returning this week Thursday through Sunday.

PussyRiot
07-05-21, 21:03
Is curfew still in place at 10 pm Or midnight?

And, read some reports that clock tower is somewhat hostile from locals and any feedback is appreciated.

Xpartan
07-05-21, 22:58
The most I'm willing to pay is 150 mil pesos I had a few girls for 50 mil pesos the point I was trying to make was people from.

Here who doesn't know what's going on down there hear $100 and think it's a great deal.Sorry, I thought you meant that $100 is supposed to be a great price. 150 mil in CTG seems like a really great price nowadays.


I'm not saying I would pay $100 USD I'm just saying others would because they don't know better I had a threesome for $50 and got a double BJ on the beach for $25.

Careful now or everyone here would wanna be your friend, LOL.

Questner
07-06-21, 01:39
Hey guys. Quick question. Does the quality and quantity of chicas available in Cartagena vary between weekdays and weekends?

I'm trying to plan a 3-4 day trip and trying to figure out if I should do week days or weekend.

In your guys experience, is there a difference?

Thanks in advance.Yes, there is a difference. Take 4 nights, Wednesday to Saturday.

TheKid1989
07-06-21, 01:40
Is curfew still in place at 10 pm Or midnight?

And, read some reports that clock tower is somewhat hostile from locals and any feedback is appreciated.Use tinder you get better results the clock tower is straight transactional. Some girls would only do CBJ. On tinder I tell them it has.

To be BBBJ. Not to mention at the clock tower lots of Venezuelans sellers and beggars who don't understand no. The beach.

Strip your better off. The Venezuelans are cheaper I'm pretty sure they Service the locals.

MongerHunger
07-06-21, 02:03
Cartagena curfew is midnight. Tierra Bomba was packed yesterday. It's still 35 k per person, includes round trip transportation, a meal, one trago and a table. Then Chiva Rumbera buses are going strong all over, 25 k per person for a few hours with several stops. I do not find the Clock Tower area hostile. Just do what the locals do and ignore the touts. Don't give them a reason to bug you, works for me.

NeilGeorge
07-06-21, 02:04
And, read some reports that clock tower is somewhat hostile from locals and any feedback is appreciated.Yes. Colombian men are going to rough talk and try to get money from you before you get the women. They know you are a foreigner and know you have money.

Mojo Bandit
07-06-21, 03:15
Is curfew still in place at 10 pm Or midnight?

And, read some reports that clock tower is somewhat hostile from locals and any feedback is appreciated.Hostile is too strong of a word. Pestering is more like it. A true test of your ignoring skills.

Trojan22
07-06-21, 06:06
My first trip to Cartagena I was there Monday through Saturday. I notice chica availability was greater getting closer to the weekend. I made a note to myself when I return it will be Thursday through Sunday or Monday.

When I made my second visit I did just that. Enjoyed my stay. I'll be returning this week Thursday through Sunday.


Yes, there is a difference. Take 4 nights, Wednesday to Saturday.Thanks fellas, appreciate it!

Questner
07-06-21, 23:30
Hostile is too strong of a word. Pestering is more like it. A true test of your ignoring skills.I buy water bottles from them. 2 K pesos, makes everyone happy. There is a right to work in Colombia, girls and touts are in the same boat. There is nothing of value touts can offer you at the Clock Tower with exception of cold bottled drinks. The best way is always be polite, again, they have the right to work and make a living, better them make a living this way.

Jefferson1993
07-07-21, 00:45
I'll be in Cartagena next weekend and the week after. Send me a private message if you're there and would like to meet up. I'm conversant in Spanish, but haven't mongered in Cartagena yet. I'm especially interested in places inexpensive or off the beaten path. If you're a senior member I'd be happy to buy you a drink and shoot the shit.I'm not a senior member, I can't even PM yet. I'd love to link up, buy some drinks, and shoot the shit as well. I'll be in Cartagena next week through Saturday.

The Juice Man
07-07-21, 03:46
Greetings gentlemen,

Making my 2nd trip to Cartagena and looking for some recent info on either the Hilton or Hampton Inn. I saw the hotel thread, but it looked like it was last updated in 2019. Can anyone confirm from recent experience if either (or both) of these locations are guest friendly? My last stay was in Soy de Local in the walled city. Great location, but the rooms are loft style and the beds are horrible. I'm open to any other suggestions, or any recent threads. I'm still learning to navigate this site, so I may not be looking in the correct place.

Mojo Bandit
07-07-21, 03:54
I buy water bottles from them. 2 K pesos, makes everyone happy. There is a right to work in Colombia, girls and touts are in the same boat. There is nothing of value touts can offer you at the Clock Tower with exception of cold bottled drinks. The best way is always be polite, again, they have the right to work and make a living, better them make a living this way.I got no problem with the existence of touts trying to make a buck. I agree that this better than crime, better than doing nothing, better even than just begging. I have bought drinks, I have bought craft jewelry, I have bought hats and sunglasses, I do have a problem with all of them who do not know how to take no for an answer. I have a bigger problem with the fact that they have grown more and more intrusive.

I have been going to Cartagena for over ten years and it was never as bad as it is now. Not all of these people have anything to sell either. I was negotiating to pick up a cute blonde off a bench in Plaza de LOS Coches and while I was trying to negotiate a price and services with the chica I had a guy in my ear interrupting me trying to get me to buy jewelry, and then there had been a kid about thirteen years old sitting next to her starts telling me that she is his chica and I have to pay him so I can take her, he follows us all the way from the benches across the plaza, out the gate under the clock tower and down the sidewalk to the front of the taxi que yelling that I owe him money. So I tell her to translate and I say to him: since you feel so strongly about this we should probably let the police decide and I point out that there are some just up the sidewalk, then I mention that pimping is illegal in Colombia so he might have a harder time explaining why I owe him money to the police. Then we just get in the taxi and leave.

That's not someone trying to make an honest living, that's just a pest. The guy trying to talk in my ear while I was trying to negotiate with the chica never stood a chance of me buying anything from him. Too intrusive. I had similar experiences when I was trying to take photos with my DSLR around Plaza de San Pedro Claver, I would be trying to focus in with the camera to my eye and people would interrupt me. It didn't used to be this way.

When they go from being assertive to being intrusive to the point of being almost aggressive and they are interfering with what my actual reason for being there is they cross a line, I lose any desire to support their efforts.

OnFireBoy
07-07-21, 15:17
Is curfew still in place at 10 pm Or midnight?

And, read some reports that clock tower is somewhat hostile from locals and any feedback is appreciated.Hello,

Curfew every day until midnight, there are fewer restrictions for these days, a lot of tourist movement too.

If you need any additional information you can write me by PM.

Regards.

ElPapi
07-07-21, 22:51
Hello,

Curfew every day until midnight, there are fewer restrictions for these days, a lot of tourist movement too.

If you need any additional information you can write me by PM.

Regards.Thank you OnFireBoy.

Folks OnFireBoy is a local in Cartegana and knows in and out of everything about Cartagena. During my last visit in March 2021, we meet with him and was a easy breeze with all the information. He took us to a local club outside of the old city and it was amazing and the girls were sexy and they have nice rooms inside the club if you want to do the deed. He has all good contacts of anything you need. Very trustworthy person and speak very good English. I recommend anyone going there first time or during the covid time reach out to him for up to date information about Cartagena.

Evac305
07-08-21, 18:22
I'm making my first trip to Cartagena next week. I'm aware of the ST and toda la noche prices but curious what's the right amount to offer girls going with you to Cholon / Rosario islands for the day. My and my boys are getting a yacht and plan to invite some girls too.

Rzrfl69
07-09-21, 00:34
So I am planning on booking my trip tomorrow. Looking at August 6-8th. Will be probably my 6th time in Cartagena and I was last there in December. Back then all you needed was the check mig. No test in or out.

I understand now from the USA you still need check mig, and then a test to get back into the USA. I've tried looking online. Where do you get the test in Cartagena? Any easy suggestions. Don't want to waste a lot of time with that.

Nypher
07-09-21, 01:33
I'm making my first trip to Cartagena next week. I'm aware of the ST and toda la noche prices but curious what's the right amount to offer girls going with you to Cholon / Rosario islands for the day. My and my boys are getting a yacht and plan to invite some girls too.Make sure you establish a price with what you expect from the chicas before you invite them on the boat. Remember you will be paying for their food and drinks throughout that whole day they are with you. Some girls will try and empty your pockets and hit you in your head with a hourly fee so make sure you set a solid price in pesos. I also have to be very clear here; you must get to the dock early to leave on the boat early to maximize your time on the islands due to when the tide comes in during the afternoon it will be a rough ass ride back to Cartagena so you want to be back before that. The chicas are always late and that will make you late. So whatever chicas you plan to take on the boat its best to have them sleep over the night before then everyone leaves together and go to the dock. You do not want to be that guy at the dock waiting for the chica to show up and she's telling you she's in a taxi but theres traffic but in actuality she's still in bed 30 minutes away, or worse she's finishing her TLN getting banged out by some gringo, wash up then leaves his hotel room to meet you at the dock.

When I take girls on boats to these islands its usually girls I've been with before multiple times. I never invite a brand new chica on a boat, we have to establish some kind of mutual understanding between us before I invite her out. When I then extend the invitation to her and let her know Ill pay my normal TLN rate, she must sleep over the night before we go to the island and that she is coming NO CHARGE and ill cover her expenses of what ever she eats or drinks while she's with me that day. Usually they take the offer and enjoy themselves and I still get sex after the trip at no charge. Then I pay them agreed TLN price + taxi for her to go home. So I get one leche before bed, one leche when I wake up, and one leche when we get back from the island.

To sum it all up.

What you don't want is for some random girl you just met last night at the Clock Tower to charge you for the day, then have her eating on your dime, then charge you extra for sex after you get back to the dock.

I get them on the boat for free since we have a mutual understanding relationship, but since you are a new gringo with no prior experience with the chica you may have to pay a day rate of about 300 mil sex not included and pay for her food and drinks. Or negotiate a price with sex included after the trip and hope she does not give you the family emergency excuse after the trip ends and bail with your money.

Nypher
07-09-21, 01:43
So I am planning on booking my trip tomorrow. Looking at August 6-8th. Will be probably my 6th time in Cartagena and I was last there in December. Back then all you needed was the check mig. No test in or out.

I understand now from the USA you still need check mig, and then a test to get back into the USA. I've tried looking online. Where do you get the test in Cartagena? Any easy suggestions. Don't want to waste a lot of time with that.Don't worry. They are every where and will bug you just like the touts. If you are staying in an AirBB your no fuss no muss easy mode is to ask the host set it up for you where they come to the apartment and test you and give you results in 48 hours.

If you looked at the Cartagena US Embassy site it gives you a complete list of all places in Colombia you can get tested with locations and prices. I went that route and walked with the whole PDF and never even looked at it because every person that was selling boat tours was also setting up appointments for Covid tests where an actual nurse comes to your apartment in full scrubs test you, then email results in 24 hours. The only time I've ever found the touts useful.

GrownMan1
07-09-21, 04:14
Arrived in Cartagena today. About 930 I went to the club delirium. If you were into the club atmosphere; I would say it was 10 to 1 females. I definitely some diamonds in there.

GrownMan1
07-09-21, 04:16
So I am planning on booking my trip tomorrow. Looking at August 6-8th. Will be probably my 6th time in Cartagena and I was last there in December. Back then all you needed was the check mig. No test in or out.

I understand now from the USA you still need check mig, and then a test to get back into the USA. I've tried looking online. Where do you get the test in Cartagena? Any easy suggestions. Don't want to waste a lot of time with that.The airport.

OnFireBoy
07-09-21, 19:48
I'm making my first trip to Cartagena next week. I'm aware of the ST and toda la noche prices but curious what's the right amount to offer girls going with you to Cholon / Rosario islands for the day. My and my boys are getting a yacht and plan to invite some girls too.The prices vary according to the girl but for the whole night or all day on a yacht in Cholon, they are between 300 K and 500 K COP, my advice is that the night before you go to Cholon, try to meet some girls establish a mutual connection and thus be able to obtain a much lower price, and if you can stay with her from the night before it would be ideal if you are interested I have contact with some university girls that you do not find in pages or discos or in the clock tower and It could come out at a better price.

Regards.

OnFireBoy
07-09-21, 20:00
Thank you OnFireBoy.

Folks OnFireBoy is a local in Cartegana and knows in and out of everything about Cartagena. During my last visit in March 2021, we meet with him and was a easy breeze with all the information. He took us to a local club outside of the old city and it was amazing and the girls were sexy and they have nice rooms inside the club if you want to do the deed. He has all good contacts of anything you need. Very trustworthy person and speak very good English. I recommend anyone going there first time or during the covid time reach out to him for up to date information about Cartagena.Thanks my friend, Hope to see you again.

Trojan22
07-09-21, 20:41
Have any of you ever flown Spirit to Cartagena? I've never flown Spirit in general because of the reputation and the delays and such.

But looking at flights, Spirit has not only the best price but also the most convenient times that work for me. I just don't want to get caught up with flight delays and any other nonsense. I'm not looking for a super luxurious flight, just want something reliable.

If you've flown Spirit before, have you dealt with delays and such constantly? How was it overall?

Thanks.

Rzrfl69
07-09-21, 23:54
Thanks for the info on the covid tests. Right after I posted I found lots of info. One major blog listed a lady that would come to your place. I'm staying at one of Juan's apartments.

I've been watching some youtube videos. Seems everything last 2 months was popping. However I just got on tinder again last night to do some scouting and surprised how few girls!?

I will be there July 30- August 1st.

As far as spirit. It's good if you do everything yourself! Do all.

The online check ins etc. Prices are a scam. They allow one personal item. A back pack that is! For carry on it's about 45 $ each way! I am going 2 nights so I can get away with a back pack. F that. I haven't had issues with delays. I go from ft Lauderdale to Ctg.

Nypher
07-10-21, 00:07
Have any of you ever flown Spirit to Cartagena? I've never flown Spirit in general because of the reputation and the delays and such.

But looking at flights, Spirit has not only the best price but also the most convenient times that work for me. I just don't want to get caught up with flight delays and any other nonsense. I'm not looking for a super luxurious flight, just want something reliable.

If you've flown Spirit before, have you dealt with delays and such constantly? How was it overall?

Thanks.I have a few cheap ass friends who went against my suggestions of the straight flight with JetBlue and used Spirit in the past. They could not stop complaining once they landed. They wanted to be cheap not realizing its a bare bones flight and they pack you in as much as the can. When you get on that plane its like you getting on the cheese bus full of weekend millionaires. Many of them don't know how to act in public. On 2 occasions my friends landed and when they get to Centro they telling me how these guys about to fight on the plane over some simple stupid shit.

If you are going to use them I would only use them for arrivals. I would never entrust them for a departure to get back home, they are notorious for delays and canceled flights. You do not want to be stranded abroad.

Nypher
07-10-21, 00:51
Thanks for the info on the covid tests. Right after I posted I found lots of info. One major blog listed a lady that would come to your place. I'm staying at one of Juan's apartments.

I've been watching some youtube videos. Seems everything last 2 months was popping. However I just got on tinder again last night to do some scouting and surprised how few girls!?

I will be there July 30- August 1st.

As far as spirit. It's good if you do everything yourself! Do all.

The online check ins etc. Prices are a scam. They allow one personal item. A back pack that is! For carry on it's about 45 $ each way! I am going 2 nights so I can get away with a back pack. F that. I haven't had issues with delays. I go from ft Lauderdale to Ctg.If you are staying at the apartment that I think you are staying, (2 bedroom with Jacuzzi) I have to warn you.

Both the bathrooms have no ventilation.

If you are 6' tall watch your head when entering the upstairs bathroom or front bedroom.

The young porter, if he still works there at night, just give him 50 mil pesos and tell him don't worry about the girls you will take care of it. This way they don't hold the girls ID and make the girls leave at dawn.

If you are not staying at that apartment then feel free to ignore everything above jajaja.

For Tinder, there are tons of chicas on there. You may have to adjust your settings. Put your location at the clock tower and set a 30 mile radius. To be honest the chicas you see on Tinder will be the same ones you will see at Playa Hollywood in the day time. The cap is 300 mil if you really want it, but always start off with 100 mil to see their reaction, 200 mil is the sweet spot. Don't tell any of those chicas that you are only there for the weekend or they will try to empty your pockets on day 1. Try not to talk to the girls too early on Tinder or they will be bugging you every day until you land, they will want you to to bring them something. Then when you land, that girl you thought was hot on tinder is nothing compared to the ones walking around right in front of your face and you will forget about her until you randomly bump into her one late night while you are with another girl (happened to me twice). I usually start talking to them the week of and tell them I'm here already there in Cartagena but I can only see you on XXXXXX days. XXXXX days will be when I actually land.

Have fun!

GrownMan1
07-10-21, 00:53
Have any of you ever flown Spirit to Cartagena? I've never flown Spirit in general because of the reputation and the delays and such.

But looking at flights, Spirit has not only the best price but also the most convenient times that work for me. I just don't want to get caught up with flight delays and any other nonsense. I'm not looking for a super luxurious flight, just want something reliable.

If you've flown Spirit before, have you dealt with delays and such constantly? How was it overall?

Thanks.Spirit sucks. They charge extra for almost everything. Extra for seating, extra for carry-on, an extra for not being a club member.
The prices are cheap but the ride is not the most comfortable. For example, my friend did not know the names of the airlines. We book with JetBlue, Delta, and Spirit. As soon as he got off his flight from Spirit he said please don't let me fly with this airline again. The seats were killing me!
I only fly first class with Spirit. It's not that I have to have first class it's just spirits seats suck just that bad. I always add an extra hundred dollars no matter what price they are advertising.

Xpartan
07-10-21, 05:06
Have any of you ever flown Spirit to Cartagena? I've never flown Spirit in general because of the reputation and the delays and such.

But looking at flights, Spirit has not only the best price but also the most convenient times that work for me. I just don't want to get caught up with flight delays and any other nonsense. I'm not looking for a super luxurious flight, just want something reliable.

If you've flown Spirit before, have you dealt with delays and such constantly? How was it overall?

Thanks.As Grown Man said, the regular Spirit seat is atrocious, and you'll be super miserable. Get a Big Front Seat for a little extra or at least an exit seat for a little less than BFS.

I have never experienced considerable delays on Spirit, but they do happen. They had significantly improved the on-time performance by 2020, though. Compared to their prior records.

Jefferson1993
07-10-21, 05:12
The prices vary according to the girl but for the whole night or all day on a yacht in Cholon, they are between 300 K and 500 K COP, my advice is that the night before you go to Cholon, try to meet some girls establish a mutual connection and thus be able to obtain a much lower price, and if you can stay with her from the night before it would be ideal if you are interested I have contact with some university girls that you do not find in pages or discos or in the clock tower and It could come out at a better price.

Regards.I'll be getting to Cartagena first thing next week as well. I'd like to grab a drink with you and get advice about girls for my stay.

SouthernOcean
07-10-21, 13:51
Which room did you rent that had a kitchen and balcony? And, you are saying that it is chica friendly? Did they ask for her cedula or exactly how did it work? https://viajerohostels.com/producto/cartagena/.The room I rented was called the superior apartment. Less than 200 USD for 5 days. Kitchen and balcony. Used the place twice last time I was there. The first of the year. No problems.

SouthernOcean
07-10-21, 13:54
The room I rented was called the superior apartment. Less than 200 USD for 5 days. Kitchen and balcony. Used the place twice last time I was there. The first of the year. No problems.It is not the same place as your link. Go to Agoda and look for the El Viajero Hotel.

OnFireBoy
07-10-21, 16:25
I'll be getting to Cartagena first thing next week as well. I'd like to grab a drink with you and get advice about girls for my stay.Ok, amigo, I will be waiting for you, greetings.

Mojo Bandit
07-10-21, 21:10
Which room did you rent that had a kitchen and balcony? And, you are saying that it is chica friendly? Did they ask for her cedula or exactly how did it work? https://viajerohostels.com/producto/cartagena/.


It is not the same place as your link. Go to Agoda and look for the El Viajero Hotel.Is this the place you are talking about? If so it is like 2 buildings down from La Dolce Vita.

https://hotel-el-viajero-centro.negocio.site/

Tomasb
07-10-21, 23:11
Wondering if anyone here has ever strayed to Mompos or Mompox during a visit to CTG. Obviously, not a mongering destination but I have read it's a beautiful little town and one of the 'pueblo patrinomio' designated villages / towns in Colombia. I plan to come to CtG and stay a few weeks and looking for some other diversionary activities whilst in the area. Also interested in going to Rincóand Del Mar, a beach town south of CTG.

GrownMan1
07-11-21, 04:13
Last night I want to club delirium and space. Delirium is a hip-hop / Colombian music club. It's small and very crowded. About a five minute walk around the corner and you have space. Space is more techno. It's not as crowded and with or a crowded it's not into the hip-hop scene.

Club space had about 30 women in there. I counted maybe five guys including myself and Gogo. I kind of like the club but you had to buy a bottle to sit down or you stand up the whole night even with 10 to 20 dollar drinks in hand. The bartenders say it's the owners policy. And we stayed there for about 15 minutes and then my feet got tired. When we both left we felt like 50% of the guys had left the club. Chicas were still coming in.

We ended up on the rooftop of one of the clubs within the clock tower. Drinks were more reasonable. I didn't see any working girls.

Mojo Bandit
07-11-21, 04:41
Wondering if anyone here has ever strayed to Mompos or Mompox during a visit to CTG. Obviously, not a mongering destination but I have read it's a beautiful little town and one of the 'pueblo patrinomio' designated villages / towns in Colombia. I plan to come to CtG and stay a few weeks and looking for some other diversionary activities whilst in the area. Also interested in going to Rincand Del Mar, a beach town south of CTG.You must have a very strong desire to only be around locals and get away from Gringos LOL Why not go to Santa Marta instead of Rincon, that place looks like a fishing village with no commercial beach, just north (or as the coast goes) is Parque Nacional Natural Tayrona with Bahia Playa Concha which often shows up on lists of the prettiest beaches in the world, still rugged and underdeveloped like Rincon but not as out in the middle of know where and it has infrastructure to fall back on, I looked on Google Maps and did not see one four wheeled vehicle in Rincon.

Domestic flights are pretty cheap also once you rare on the ground there so you might even try to flu to Santa Marta, might even consider flying up to Medellin and then renting a car, there are several things do see in that vicinity, The Paisa Villages: Santa Fe de Antioquia and Santa Elena and the are called Gautape with its big famous rock, the lake area and the pueblo.

Drf1987
07-11-21, 06:20
As Grown Man said, the regular Spirit seat is atrocious, and you'll be super miserable. Get a Big Front Seat for a little extra or at least an exit seat for a little less than BFS.

I have never experienced considerable delays on Spirit, but they do happen. They had significantly improved the on-time performance by 2020, though. Compared to their prior records.I have flown Spirit to Cartagena, Medellin, Bogota, Santo Domingo DR, San Jose Costa Rica, Las Vegas, and San Diego and I truly don't understand why Spirit has such a bad reputation. Of all the times I've flown I have only experienced one long delay coming back from Bogota and I missed my connection by five minutes. Even then they gave me a hotel room for the night and a food voucher and I ate pretty well with it. Truthfully the staff is very professional and I have never had a problem with them. In my opinion, some of the travelers especially when flying to American cities is where the problems come from. Some are very rude and not very sophisticated. That's probably why I've heard people who haven't flown them call it Soul Plane which is far from the truth.

GrownMan1
07-11-21, 06:29
Standing outside the clock tower; this young marina walks up to me. We converse a little and she gave me the price of 150,000. On a scale of 1 to 10 she was about a 6 .

She asked for my WhatsApp information and saw my daughter on my phone. She also had a daughter one years old that had a birthday the same day as mine.

Now what a coincidence. Little girls or boys thatI meet that share the same birthday as mine I adopt. I took this as a sign. She will be my choice for the night because I plan on spoiling her a little bit.

We get to my place and she asked for some cigarettes. I gave her 20,000 and she didn't return my change. Then she said she wanted to go and buy a beer. I asked her how much and she said 20,000.

OK here's another 20,000 but that's going to be -40,000 from our agreed price. She left and didn't come back.

Wow how did I almost slipped with a chica that petty. I walked outside thinking I could just grab from the group of Venezuelans that hang outside the hotel.

All of a sudden a very slim no Breast chica came up saying she's a friend of the chica who just left. Would I like to be with her. "Danger Will Robinson danger Will Robinson"! (Lost in space). The computer voice echoed in my head.

She and another girl came up and started propositioning me. On a scale of 1 to 10 both of them are about a four. No thank you I have Mary Jane in my room. I will cut my losses. I never felt so good after losing $20.

Mr Enternational
07-11-21, 13:33
We get to my place and she asked for some cigarettes. I gave her 20,000 and she didn't return my change. Then she said she wanted to go and buy a beer. I asked her how much and she said 20,000.

OK here's another 20,000 but that's going to be -40,000 from our agreed price. She left and didn't come back.LOL. Man that is 2 sessions in downtown Medellin or Santa Fe!

Tomasb
07-11-21, 14:20
This will be about my 7th or 8th trip to Colombia. I have been to MDE a couple of times and also visited the pueblo of Santa Fe. I went with a MDE non-pro chica I met on that trip. It was ok for a day visit but not a place I would want to spend a night. I have also been to Santa Marta a few times on excursions from CTG. I enjoyed it and had some good luck in Bananas but can't say the beaches did much for me. There are a couple of very nice boutique hotels to stay there that would cost two or three times as much in CTG. One day, I recall going to the beach in the center of town and noticed an old couch floating in the water. The water looked dirty too so did not linger.

I forgot to ask about Palomino a bit up the road from Santa Marta. Any comments on that beach town?

On another trip, I flew from MDE to isla San Andres. I went to a burdel of some sort near the airport and picked up a girl from MDE, ironically enough, but was not terribly impressed by the limited beaches or the town. I have also been fortunate to visit Barichara, Villa de Leyva, and some other Colombian designated pueblo patrinomios. They were all pretty cool but BYO as a limited mongering scene indeed.

So in addition to Rincóand, there are at least two offshore islands near there that apparently have great beaches, though not much else. It's true, the infrastructure is not as nice though I think Mompox may offer better accommodations. It's possible to visit these places from CTG on a day trip though the boat trip to the islands is longer than from Rincóand. From what I understand places like Rincon, Mompox (s), Palomino, etc. Do attract Colombian tourists but I don't see that as a negative. I would like to go to at least one nice Caribbean style beach, which is not possible in CTG. I did not like the hurried feel when I once visited the offshore islands close to CTG. I will check out your comments about Bahia Playa Concha.


You must have a very strong desire to only be around locals and get away from Gringos LOL Why not go to Santa Marta instead of Rincon, that place looks like a fishing village with no commercial beach, just north (or as the coast goes) is Parque Nacional Natural Tayrona with Bahia Playa Concha which often shows up on lists of the prettiest beaches in the world, still rugged and underdeveloped like Rincon but not as out in the middle of know where and it has infrastructure to fall back on, I looked on Google Maps and did not see one four wheeled vehicle in Rincon.

Domestic flights are pretty cheap also once you rare on the ground there so you might even try to flu to Santa Marta, might even consider flying up to Medellin and then renting a car, there are several things do see in that vicinity, The Paisa Villages: Santa Fe de Antioquia and Santa Elena and the are called Gautape with its big famous rock, the lake area and the pueblo.

Mr Gogo
07-11-21, 15:31
Wzup fellas. I've been all over the world and have posted about it here for the last 15 years, but I think either the game has changed or I have gotten old. Before it was adventure over safety now it's safety over adventure. I chose to stay in the barrio even though everyone suggested Boca grande. If you know where Corales de India hotel is, I'm in the barrio right across the bride from that hotel. Seems I'm the only gringo here but it's not a bad spot. Probably should have stayed more south as it's an hour walk from my hotel to the walled city. Cab or Uber charges 8 k to 10 k depending on the time of day. Anyone know any spots here in this barrio that's safe let me know.

Met up with Grownman and we went to club delirium first. Crowded at 10 pm and 30 k for a Cuba libre (rum and coke). Hot girls there but didn't get prices because I wanted to hit more clubs. Went to Space next, same drink prices, not as crowded and the waitresses and girls were super friendly, I like this spot. Then hit the rooftop bar after you enter the clock tower. Nice spot, open aired, good music, couples and groups, but no working girls. This wasn't a problem because it was some older ladies with their friends who interested me. My preference is the 30-40 year old ladies.

Nypher
07-11-21, 20:53
Standing outside the clock tower; this young marina walks up to me. We converse a little and she gave me the price of 150,000. On a scale of 1 to 10 she was about a 6 .

She asked for my WhatsApp information and saw my daughter on my phone. She also had a daughter one years old that had a birthday the same day as mine.

Now what a coincidence. Little girls or boys thatI meet that share the same birthday as mine I adopt. I took this as a sign. She will be my choice for the night because I plan on spoiling her a little bit.

We get to my place and she asked for some cigarettes. I gave her 20,000 and she didn't return my change. Then she said she wanted to go and buy a beer. I asked her how much and she said 20,000.

OK here's another 20,000 but that's going to be -40,000 from our agreed price. She left and didn't come back.

Wow how did I almost slipped with a chica that petty. I walked outside thinking I could just grab from the group of Venezuelans that hang outside the hotel.

All of a sudden a very slim no Breast chica came up saying she's a friend of the chica who just left. Would I like to be with her. "Danger Will Robinson danger Will Robinson"! (Lost in space). The computer voice echoed in my head.Chances are some other gringo gave her a better deal when she went out to get the beer and she figured she already got 40 mil from one gringo for doing nothing and she can get her normal 300 mil from the other gringo.

I'm curious to know how things would have turned out if you didn't tell her it would be deducted from the agreed price and surprised her with that information at the end of the deed jajaja.

Mr Gogo
07-12-21, 01:10
Woke at 8 am, no hangover effects from drinking last night, did a few push-ups jumped in the shower and headed out the door for my hour walk to Boca Grande. Met Grownman and Wood at a restaurant and we did the beach walk. Honestly I couldn't feel the beach vibe and I've been to beaches all over the globe. Usually I use the water for therapy but it didn't seem inviting, but I'm sure I will try again. Great eye candy and the hustlers were on us but we just acted deaf and kept walking. The fellas had plans so this allowed me private time to double back on a few waitresses solo. Made plans for later with one girl and stopped for some house supplies (Beer, water, juice, rum, coke and chocolate candy). Damn I forgot food so I walked outside and 8 people were eating some kind of soup. I asked if it was a restaurant here that was open and had good food and she no. Damn this is a different barrio, not even the guy on the corner with old chicken grilling.

The girl sensed my desperation and came to my rescue. She walked in a house two doors away and came back with a paper bowl of soup. Oh shit, my favorite San chocho. Didn't taste better than the Dominican Republic version but hit the spot. I offered to buy the girl and two others a few beers and next thing I know I'm family. Even the drunk Uncle kept trying to talk to me which I played " dumb gringo", no Spanish here sir. He never caught on even though me and the other girl were talking Spanish. He was just a drunk happy to have a new friend who would listen to him.

A few cubby single girls came out of nowhere and joined the party with an occasional glance at the new gringo. I'm glad I wasn't drinking rum yet or big girls would be in play. When I saw a Lee Haney (body building champion) dude come up in a dress I knew it was time to go.

So much for being low key in the hood, they treated the gringo nice.

Adinga
07-12-21, 06:03
Mr Gogo. Is Colombia still requiring all travelers have a PCR exam conducted 72 hours in advance?

GrownMan1
07-12-21, 07:29
I'm curious to know how things would have turned out if you didn't tell her it would be deducted from the agreed price and surprised her with that information at the end of the deed jajaja.In the words of the great owl. " The world will never find out". I couldn't believe I let someone so petty get in my car for zone. I usually spot those types quickly.

Mr Gogo
07-12-21, 20:22
Mr Gogo. Is Colombia still requiring all travelers have a PCR exam conducted 72 hours in advance?Hey Adinga,

No tests for entry. But you need a test for entry to America.

GrownMan1
07-12-21, 21:21
Mr Gogo. Is Colombia still requiring all travelers have a PCR exam conducted 72 hours in advance?There are no requirements currently to come to this country. Pardon me because you did not direct the question to me or the board.

Evac305
07-12-21, 23:51
The prices vary according to the girl but for the whole night or all day on a yacht in Cholon, they are between 300 K and 500 K COP, my advice is that the night before you go to Cholon, try to meet some girls establish a mutual connection and thus be able to obtain a much lower price, and if you can stay with her from the night before it would be ideal if you are interested I have contact with some university girls that you do not find in pages or discos or in the clock tower and It could come out at a better price.

Regards.I appreciate the information and hospitality. Unfortunately I'm unable to PM on here to get your contact and take you up on that offer.

GrownMan1
07-13-21, 04:07
I have contact with some university girls that you do not find in pages or discos or in the clock tower
Regards.Your information is good but your reliability is in question. You send me a photo of one girl and I said she was nice. You never responded after that. That was three days ago. I'm not mad at you good luck in your " Chica / gringo connection business.

OnFireBoy
07-13-21, 21:00
Wondering if anyone here has ever strayed to Mompos or Mompox during a visit to CTG. Obviously, not a mongering destination but I have read it's a beautiful little town and one of the 'pueblo patrinomio' designated villages / towns in Colombia. I plan to come to CtG and stay a few weeks and looking for some other diversionary activities whilst in the area. Also interested in going to Rincand Del Mar, a beach town south of CTG.Mompox is a destination not very visited by foreign tourists, the only access route is by land and it is about 5 hours from Cartagena, but I do not recommend going by bus, preferably renting a car or take a private service would be a much better option for safety, on the other hand, Rincon del Mar is a small fishing village, located on the western part of the Caribbean coast, 4 hours from Cartagena, Rincon is a hidden paradise. There are different hostels and two slightly higher standard establishments, and also the San Bernardo Islands are only 45 minutes away by boat.

Regards.

OnFireBoy
07-13-21, 21:05
I appreciate the information and hospitality. Unfortunately I'm unable to PM on here to get your contact and take you up on that offer.No problem, Any information you need just tell me here, no PM is needed for that.

OnFireBoy
07-13-21, 21:11
Your information is good but your reliability is in question. You send me a photo of one girl and I said she was nice. You never responded after that. That was three days ago. I'm not mad at you good luck in your " Chica / gringo connection business.Friend, as I explained to you on WhatsApp, that day I had an emergency and I had to leave the city, I hope to meet you the next time you return to Cartagena, you are always welcome and as I told you this is not my business I only try to help them have a good time in my city.

Regards,

Onfireboy.

GrownMan1
07-14-21, 03:23
Friend, as I explained to you on WhatsApp, that day I had an emergency and I had to leave the city, I hope to meet you the next time you return to Cartagena, you are always welcome and as I told you this is not my business I only try to help them have a good time in my city.

Regards,

Onfireboy.No problem Sir. I hope we get a chance to meet.

Tomasb
07-14-21, 05:01
Thanks for your opinion on Rincon Del Mar. Another poster here did not think highly of it but from what I have read previously and your comments, there are hints that it might be a hidden gem. However, a quick Google travel time inquiry stated it was 2 hours, 18 m from Cartagena. Google agreed with your stated drive time to Mompox from Cartagena with a 4 HR 55 m drive time. A bus does not sound like a good way to go there in that event. I can just imagine the condition of the bus. What do you think a private car would cost? If I rented a car, are the roads safe to drive for a tourist?


Mompox is a destination not very visited by foreign tourists, the only access route is by land and it is about 5 hours from Cartagena, but I do not recommend going by bus, preferably renting a car or take a private service would be a much better option for safety, on the other hand, Rincon del Mar is a small fishing village, located on the western part of the Caribbean coast, 4 hours from Cartagena, Rincon is a hidden paradise. There are different hostels and two slightly higher standard establishments, and also the San Bernardo Islands are only 45 minutes away by boat.

Regards.

Kafka
07-14-21, 05:07
Yes, that s what I experienced. Very difficult scene at night, just not fun in the street.

And with the proliferation of boomboxes on the beach it's become extremely noisy. In fact it's noise all over town something that they're trying to take steps to deal with but I feel not very successfully. There's actually a number you can call to complain about the noise but don't know what it is.


I got no problem with the existence of touts trying to make a buck. I agree that this better than crime, better than doing nothing, better even than just begging. I have bought drinks, I have bought craft jewelry, I have bought hats and sunglasses, I do have a problem with all of them who do not know how to take no for an answer. I have a bigger problem with the fact that they have grown more and more intrusive.

I have been going to Cartagena for over ten years and it was never as bad as it is now. Not all of these people have anything to sell either. I was negotiating to pick up a cute blonde off a bench in Plaza de LOS Coches and while I was trying to negotiate a price and services with the chica I had a guy in my ear interrupting me trying to get me to buy jewelry, and then there had been a kid about thirteen years old sitting next to her starts telling me that she is his chica and I have to pay him so I can take her, he follows us all the way from the benches across the plaza, out the gate under the clock tower and down the sidewalk to the front of the taxi que yelling that I owe him money. So I tell her to translate and I say to him: since you feel so strongly about this we should probably let the police decide and I point out that there are some just up the sidewalk, then I mention that pimping is illegal in Colombia so he might have a harder time explaining why I owe him money to the police. Then we just get in the taxi and leave.

That's not someone trying to make an honest living, that's just a pest. The guy trying to talk in my ear while I was trying to negotiate with the chica never stood a chance of me buying anything from him. Too intrusive. I had similar experiences when I was trying to take photos with my DSLR around Plaza de San Pedro Claver, I would be trying to focus in with the camera to my eye and people would interrupt me. It didn't used to be this way.

When they go from being assertive to being intrusive to the point of being almost aggressive and they are interfering with what my actual reason for being there is they cross a line, I lose any desire to support their efforts.

Mr Gogo
07-14-21, 14:57
Maybe it's because I lived in Boca chica Dominican Republic for two years, but I haven't had any problems with the touts in Cartagena. Boca chica has the most aggressive touts in all the Caribbean. It's all in the attitude and vibe you give off. I walk around like they are invisible and I don't hear them. These guys are trained hustlers and read body language and emotions.

The entry questions are designed to give them information and draw you into their trap: where are you from?, I remember you?, my friend and my brother are the entry setup. Just looking at them is all they need. Getting agitated falls into their plan, they got you.

It's funny because I was sitting with my buddy yesterday at an outdoor cafe in the walled city and every tout went to him and never to me even though I'm sitting right next to him. He said damn why are they fucking with him and not me. I explained he was paying attention to them and then he felt he owed them an explanation. Saying I don't have money, or I'm sorry but I just brought something only adds to their game which is to get you to talk and sympathize with them. Nice guy shit don't work.

I guess it's hustlers code, because I don't see or hear them so they know I'm up on their bullshit and leave me alone.

GrownMan1
07-14-21, 18:25
Maybe it's because I lived in Boca chica Dominican Republic for two years, but I haven't had any problems with the touts in Cartagena. Boca chica has the most aggressive touts in all the Caribbean. It's all in the attitude and vibe you give off. I walk around like they are invisible and I don't hear them. These guys are trained hustlers and read body language and emotions.."(necesitas encontrar un gringo Nuevo en tu país. Yo no soy".) you need to find a new gringo to your Country. I am not. Or a very quick Mutombo finger shake And a calm no. Even the Biggers gave up quickly.

The DR has more aggressive touts. Cartagena has aggressive beggars. I swear if they weren't children I would have smack a few for touching me. But I didn't experience no real issues this time.

GrownMan1
07-14-21, 18:27
My last Night and Cartagena I Found myself in delirium. I talked to a few chicas and got price ranges from 200/300. But they all gave see BJ's.

Saw a girl that was my look and body type. She came up and smiled at me and kiss me on the cheek. Dammit I must have had her. Yep now I remember. Sorry Mommy can't repeat with you because you give CBJs.

There was a beautiful chocolate one in there. And she was giving me the eye. She was perfect. Too perfect! Sorry mommy I just can't knowingly Do silicone.

Went to the clock tower and watched a silicone Parade. There were some very nice chicas available. Finally something caught my attention.

She was a brown skin Venezuelan. About 56 and 140 pounds. Said she had been there for eight months. To her Cartagena is America Compared to what her country was going through.

We agree 200 and BBJ. Her head game was a 7 1/2. She had energy and was very tight. She didn't mind the ground and pound. She seem to really enjoy that. A solid 8 1/2. I can repeat with her. Blessed her with a dress and her exit fee.

The next day it was either her or nothing. I had others call me but I need an eight or better guaranteed. If not cool, I'm flying to the DR today. I can make up there.

So out of four days in Cartagena; I had two girls. When was OK the other was a keeper. I exchange $400. I'm coming back with less than 150. Will I be back? Yes, maybe sometime this year.

On the other hand, my man Hollywood love Cartagena. Hollywood is a gym rat. He's about 250 of solid muscle mass. He caught a hold of a chica on tinder. Turns out she was Venezuelan.

He told us he think he has met his sex soulmate . He said she went round for round with him without a problem. He said he's never experienced a woman that could match his energy. He had two more sessions with her during our time there. He actually Extended another day to be with her.

Gogo also like to place however, we both agreed we enjoy the DR more. Gogo was planning on being there for a month. He may decide to cut his vacation short. I think he's going to double back to the DR.

Starks333
07-14-21, 18:56
Anyone know the best location on the Bocagrande for a beach visit? Looking for the best option to see ladies, best vibe, and served food option. Every time I visit, I seem to try a new location on the strip, but never really satisfied. Anyone has good intel on this?

Mr Enternational
07-14-21, 19:03
The entry questions are designed to give them information and draw you into their trap: where are you from?, I remember you?, my friend and my brother are the entry setup.If you are somewhere that nobody knows you and some local approaches you then they are looking for money. Have a friendly conversation if you have money for them. But I don't even let them get close. I shake my head no and wag my finger as soon as I see them approaching.

Mr Enternational
07-14-21, 19:11
.On the other hand, my man Hollywood love Cartagena. Hollywood is a gym rat. He's about 250 of solid muscle mass. He caught a hold of a chica on tinder. Turns out she was Venezuelan.

He told us he think he has met his sex soulmate . He said she went round for round with him without a problem. He said he's never experienced a woman that could match his energy. He had two more sessions with her during our time there. He actually Extended another day to be with her.Don't take him to Rio. You would not get him to go back home.

ElPapi
07-14-21, 20:26
Friend, as I explained to you on WhatsApp, that day I had an emergency and I had to leave the city, I hope to meet you the next time you return to Cartagena, you are always welcome and as I told you this is not my business I only try to help them have a good time in my city.

Regards,

Onfireboy.I agree Onfireboy is very much reliable and does not to do anything business related. Folks like me who struggle in Spanish language his help makes our trip more enjoyable. I remember he does have a full time job in renowned company in Cartagena. I strongly recommend Onfireboy to anyone if they need any information.

Jefferson1993
07-14-21, 21:11
My last Night and Cartagena I Found myself in delirium. I talked to a few chicas and got price ranges from 200/300. But they all gave see BJ's.

Saw a girl that was my look and body type. She came up and smiled at me and kiss me on the cheek. Dammit I must have had her. Yep now I remember. Sorry Mommy can't repeat with you because you give CBJs.

There was a beautiful chocolate one in there. And she was giving me the eye. She was perfect. Too perfect! Sorry mommy I just can't knowingly Do silicone.

Went to the clock tower and watched a silicone Parade. There were some very nice chicas available. Finally something caught my attention.Delirium girls were looking too good to be true, bodacious. I just wish there was more dancing and less standing around. Would probably be better if we had a table, but I ended up at Space. How early do you need to show up to get a table at Delirium?

Nypher
07-15-21, 00:18
Delirium girls were looking too good to be true, bodacious. I just wish there was more dancing and less standing around. Would probably be better if we had a table, but I ended up at Space. How early do you need to show up to get a table at Delirium?Delirium does not have a good layout for seating and seeing the talent. The only option is against the left wall as you walk in or upstairs. But if you sit against the wall it gets so packed from people just standing around they will block your view of the new talent coming in and heading to the bathroom or upstairs. If you get upstairs you can look don and see whose coming in but by the time yo get down there to them or wave them to come up to you, the chica have to go through the gauntlet of mongers throwing prices at her before she gets to you to hear your price.

IMO, Space and Dulce are better, you can sit, its not too crowded and you see all the talent come and go.

Nypher
07-15-21, 00:31
My last Night and Cartagena I Found myself in delirium. I talked to a few chicas and got price ranges from 200/300. But they all gave see BJ's.Are 200/300 in dollars or pesos? Was that TLN or por hora?

200/300 mil por hora is normal and a fair price. If you did the hour I'm surprised the chicas went for it. When I was there a couple months back in the clubs, they only wanted TLN at high prices. Looks like prices are going back to normal. I might have to fly back down there next month and enjoy the the prices before they get inflated again.

Evac305
07-15-21, 11:19
How strict is the 12 am curfew being enforced?

GrownMan1
07-15-21, 13:54
Delirium girls were looking too good to be true, bodacious. I just wish there was more dancing and less standing around. Would probably be better if we had a table, but I ended up at Space. How early do you need to show up to get a table at Delirium?That's a good question. I always seem to find myself sitting on the speaker by the bathroom.

GrownMan1
07-15-21, 23:34
Are 200/300 in dollars or pesos? Was that TLN or por hora?

200/300 mil por hora is normal and a fair price. If you did the hour I'm surprised the chicas went for it. When I was there a couple months back in the clubs, they only wanted TLN at high prices. Looks like prices are going back to normal. I might have to fly back down there next month and enjoy the the prices before they get inflated again.Pesos of course. It was OK price but the CBJ I cannot deal with.

Mojo Bandit
07-16-21, 06:13
Are 200/300 in dollars or pesos? Was that TLN or por hora?

200/300 mil por hora is normal and a fair price. If you did the hour I'm surprised the chicas went for it. When I was there a couple months back in the clubs, they only wanted TLN at high prices. Looks like prices are going back to normal. I might have to fly back down there next month and enjoy the the prices before they get inflated again.Just to clarify, though you probably already know, when he says 200/300 pesos he means 200,000 and 300,000 Colombian pesos which is more often expressed as 200 k cop and 300 k cop. As far as "por hora" it is not advisable to negotiate a specific time unless you want toda la noche, best to negotiate your expectations of the services you expect so you do not end up with a clock watcher.

OnFireBoy
07-16-21, 06:33
How strict is the 12 am curfew being enforced?My friend there are more places to continue with the party until 12 am.

Nypher
07-16-21, 23:13
Just to clarify, though you probably already know, when he says 200/300 pesos he means 200,000 and 300,000 Colombian pesos which is more often expressed as 200 k cop and 300 k cop. As far as "por hora" it is not advisable to negotiate a specific time unless you want toda la noche, best to negotiate your expectations of the services you expect so you do not end up with a clock watcher.No mater how I negotiate with these new chicas, most of them always have a trick up their sleeve that makes me just goes back to my regular chicas. My regular chicas never watch the clock, try to rush me, or put a limit on how many times we fuck over night.

But these new younger chicas are about getting as much as they can with as little work and time.

If I negotiate for time they watch the clock.

If I negotiate per leche they rush the first one, then as soon as it finishes the want to go again and try to rush the second one that just bruises up the cock leaving it sore.

If I negotiate TLN they try to say you only get 2 leche, 1 before bed, and one in the morning.

Although my regular chicas are good, they are starting to show their age so I'm trying to retire them, and get new younger ones with less mileage.

Jefferson1993
07-16-21, 23:30
How strict is the 12 am curfew being enforced?You do have to be careful though I got caught at a police checkpoint on my way back to the hotel a few days ago. They were talking about me having to go to the police station and showed me some website talking about a 900,000+ fine. I told them that was ridiculous and they wanted to know how much I had on me. Luckily I had my money separated and convinced them all I had was 120 k cop. Not fun.

Phuket90
07-17-21, 13:43
You do have to be careful though I got caught at a police checkpoint on my way back to the hotel a few days ago. They were talking about me having to go to the police station and showed me some website talking about a 900,000+ fine. I told them that was ridiculous and they wanted to know how much I had on me. Luckily I had my money separated and convinced them all I had was 120 k cop. Not fun.Same here. I paid 200.000 . Was a pretty scary situation. I came back from pley club.

Berliner2021
07-17-21, 15:24
At Grownman:

Your Inbox is full.

Adinga
07-19-21, 00:58
Does anyone have a Gymnasium they can recommend in El Loquito? I need a place that offers daily / weekly plans at reasonable rates.

GrownMan1
07-19-21, 02:23
Does anyone have a Gymnasium they can recommend in El Loquito? I need a place that offers daily / weekly plans at reasonable rates.There's a very good gym.

GrownMan1
07-19-21, 02:24
At Grownman:

Your Inbox is full.I just cleared out some notes hopefully that will work.

MSanchez
07-19-21, 04:22
The girls usually pay attention to the type of wristbands the guy at the door puts on you as it lets the girls know if you are a baller or not. I usually tell them give me the regular band to avoid the gringo prices from the chicas.What do the different colors mean? I got a white wristband after I was leaving, does that make me a gringo?

Mojo Bandit
07-19-21, 16:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kj2Tw8EB1s

World Travel 69
07-19-21, 17:06
Curfew.

I heard that all of Colombia will have Curfew starting tonight.

The latest this morning from Jesus: "Hello, good morning, today.

Monday everything is normal, there are many police in the streets.

Many cities on alert, tomorrow there will be marches and protests.

There is a curfew and alcohol consumption is prohibited. ".

Contact Jesus, he will let you know what's going on, our man in the streets.

He is in Cali, WhatsApp: 57-323-586-6627.

Mojo Bandit
07-19-21, 18:19
Curfew.

I heard that all of Colombia will have Curfew starting tonight.

The latest this morning from Jesus: "Hello, good morning, today.

Monday everything is normal, there are many police in the streets.

Many cities on alert, tomorrow there will be marches and protests.

There is a curfew and alcohol consumption is prohibited. ".

Contact Jesus, he will let you know what's going on, our man in the streets.

He is in Cali, WhatsApp: 57-323-586-6627.Here is an article that explains the route of the protest March and shows the route in Cartagena. Looks like the areas they are going into are Manga and Getsemani and the edge of Bocagrande. I have yet to hear of any protests in Cartagena turning into a riot or getting violent the way they do in other major cities (especially Cali) but one never knows. There are reports that fringe groups are going to try to turn the demonstrations violent in some cities.

Regardless of that it is definitely not good for traffic. Especially disrupting is going to be that the March is ending at the space at the neck of the peninsula where Bocagrande starts, and there is for all practical purposes only one road leading from Bocagrande to the Old City (Carrera 1 along the coast is one way) so that is going to be a hassle for anyone making there way between the Old City and either El Laguito, Bocagrande, or Castillo Grande.

https://www.eluniversal.com.co/cartagena/paro-nacional-este-es-el-recorrido-de-la-marcha-del-20-de-julio-en-cartagena-FD5027351

Rzrfl69
07-19-21, 22:41
So it sounds like this curfew is just a reaction to some protests going on now? I have a trip scheduled July 30th!

Rzrfl69
07-19-21, 22:50
Well after a quick google, I am a bit confused. Just read they are limiting to 30% capacity and limiting alcohol sales after 10 pm. But the article says it does not include bars and clubs? It does say it's due to a rapid increase in cases from 15-29 yr old.

https://murciatoday.com/murcia_reduces_internal_bar_and_restaurant_capacity_to_30_per_cent_in_31_municipalities_1618880-a.html

Questner
07-20-21, 02:52
Well after a quick google, I am a bit confused. Just read they are limiting to 30% capacity and limiting alcohol sales after 10 pm. But the article says it does not include bars and clubs? It does say it's due to a rapid increase in cases from 15-29 yr old.

https://murciatoday.com/murcia_reduces_internal_bar_and_restaurant_capacity_to_30_per_cent_in_31_municipalities_1618880-a.htmlYou are mixing up Cartagena, Murcia region, Spain and Cartagena de Indias, Colombia.

Black Page
07-20-21, 11:14
You are mixing up Cartagena, Murcia region, Spain and Cartagena de Indias, Colombia.Did you read that a group of French football supporters was found wandering around in Bucarest few weeks ago. They planned to go supporting the French team playing in Budapest for the European Championship, but they bought the wrong flight ticket. They found the hard way that 1) Bucarest is not Budapest 2) studying some basic Geography at school is still a good thing, and it did not become pointless just because there is Google on the phone.

Rzrfl69
07-20-21, 12:33
Well my bad. But glad to be wrong on this occasion!

Black Page
07-20-21, 19:11
Does anyone have a Gymnasium they can recommend in El Loquito? I need a place that offers daily / weekly plans at reasonable rates.I tried to Google "el loquito gymnasium" but I am not sure if what comes out is what you are looking for.

Mojo Bandit
07-20-21, 22:49
Well my bad. But glad to be wrong on this occasion!


I tried to Google "el loquito gymnasium" but I am not sure if what comes out is what you are looking for.El Laguito is a pretty small place too be looking for a gym I think, Bocagrande is just next to El Laguito and would be big enough to maybe have something like that. I don't know that there's not one in Laguito, I just know that Laguito is pretty damn small. Its like the equivalence of three average city blocks long, you can walk from one end to the other in like less than 10 minutes, Bocagrande is five to ten times the size.

I saw where somebody on a Facebook page called Expats In Cartagena mentioned the possibility of getting a day pass at a place called BodyTech that has a location in Bocagrande. The location is on a shopping commercial building that fronts up on the ocean just south of Calle 13. I am posting some photos I clipped from Google Maps. One is from the beach so you can see most of the whole building, the other is up closer so you can see the Gym name.

https://bodytech.com.co/sedes/bocagrande

This is the phone number on their website (scroll to bottom and click 'contacto") - which I admit I do not understand. It is a lot of digits.

01 8000 182 639.

Nypher
07-21-21, 02:00
What do the different colors mean? I got a white wristband after I was leaving, does that make me a gringo?Its more of an observation of whose wearing what bands, perhaps I'm wrong and I would like to be wrong on this. If so, someone tell me its all in my head and correct me.

My group and I have never had to pay a cover charge to get in for years, so why the wrist bands at all? Then once you get in you realize some guys are wearing wrist bands and some aren't and the ones who are not wearing them looks like local guys who live there as opposed to those who are visiting. I've seen them give yellow bands to one set of guys and blue to another group. Or red band to one group and white to another group. Then I notice depending on the bands color the girls will flirt harder or try to get your attention harder.

I love the place though, all flavors and I have met some of the most fun girls in there I still see years after.

Nypher
07-21-21, 02:47
I'm getting ready to head back to CTG and started talking to my chicas. They are telling me the price might be different when I get there because allot of guys are asking the chicas TLN the prices in dollars and the girls are telling them $300 or $400 they are paying it and the girls are laughing at them. Now I know where they come from $300 for the night may seem like a bargain when they are accustom to pay $300 for the hour but paying $300 for the night is more than twice the price in COP.

This is aimed to the newer mongers.

Black Page
07-21-21, 10:27
El Laguito is a pretty small place too be looking for a gym I think,ROFL. I think you did not catch my humour, or if you prefer my humour was not that good or not clear enough.

This person asked about a gym at "El Loquito" not at Laguito. He repeated the same in the post title, so he must be sure that the place is Loquito and not Laguito.

If you Google "El Loquito gymnasium", first photos are about gay places and people.

Mojo Bandit
07-21-21, 13:03
ROFL. I think you did not catch my humour, or if you prefer my humour was not that good or not clear enough.

This person asked about a gym at "El Loquito" not at Laguito. He repeated the same in the post title, so he must be sure that the place is Loquito and not Laguito.

If you Google "El Loquito gymnasium", first photos are about gay places and people.Sorry, but yes I did miss it. I did not see the q in laquito in your post but now I see the humor in it.

CougarMw
07-21-21, 13:54
I had originally posted this under the lists section, but in talking to a number of folks they never even scroll down that far so I am going to see if the Admin will let me post under trip reports hoping that more people read this section and will respond.

With COVID continually impacting what is open I was hoping for some up to date information since I will be in CTG Tomorrow for 4 nights. We have stayed within the Old City on our past 2 trips, but are looking to find some local venues. If anyone could provide current information on what casas, strip clubs, and massage parlors are open and any recommendations on spots not to miss it would be greatly appreciated. Also, we would love to know about any bars beyond Space, Vita and Delirium in the Old City or Getsemani with free lancers that are open or have any action at this point. Thanks.

TheKid1989
07-21-21, 14:00
Same here. I paid 200.000 . Was a pretty scary situation. I came back from pley club.I did warn you guys about that. It's a scam. If you don't plan on leaving the club until 5 am don't even bother. The taxis will bring you to the check point to get shaken down be careful.

Nypher
07-21-21, 18:14
I had originally posted this under the lists section, but in talking to a number of folks they never even scroll down that far so I am going to see if the Admin will let me post under trip reports hoping that more people read this section and will respond.

With COVID continually impacting what is open I was hoping for some up to date information since I will be in CTG Tomorrow for 4 nights. We have stayed within the Old City on our past 2 trips, but are looking to find some local venues. If anyone could provide current information on what casas, strip clubs, and massage parlors are open and any recommendations on spots not to miss it would be greatly appreciated. Also, we would love to know about any bars beyond Space, Vita and Delirium in the Old City or Getsemani with free lancers that are open or have any action at this point. Thanks.Mr. Babilla. An OK place. Most girls are not technically there to get gringos. But if your Spanish is good and you don't have to pull out the translator app you may be able to talk to one and get her back to your room without advertising to the whole club your a gringo, she's a puta, and you're about to pay for some pussy.

Walk down Calle 24 in Getsemani, there are a few clubs along the way.

Remember allot of these girls are pros or semi pros. As long as you don't make it obvious what you are doing won't turn down the offer as they could always use the extra money.

Phuket90
07-21-21, 21:02
Had a pretty good time.

Prices all over CTG was 300-600 COP TLN. I never did short time. I had only one runner.

SouthernOcean
07-22-21, 16:20
Coming back about the middle of September. Was staying at the El Viajero in the superior apartment but accidently canceled it. Will find a place in the walled city but my last airbnb is booked. They had no problem with guests. So looking for a recommendation for a guest friendly airbnb or any guest friendly place with a kitchen.

Would also like to use the guys I have heard about on here to line up a couple of women. I used Dulce Vita, the Clock Tower Plaza and another club I can't remember the name of last time. Had great results. Would be nice to stay in a nice place with a balcony. Of all the places in the world I have done some mongering, I like Cartagena the best. Maybe meet a few of you guys while I am there.

Dublin12
07-25-21, 08:46
Anybody planning a trip anywhere in the world, might find this useful: https://www.skyscanner.ie/travel-restrictions/colombia/29475425 It lists by colour code the level of restritions in most countries with "green" being the easiest to enter. To use it, you will need to change your country of origin in the drop-down menu.

A word of warning, I needed to use it to check the rules on returning from Japan. My wife is currently there visiting her family. According to this site, she will have to go into hotel quarantine on her return later this week, but looking at Irish gov sites, Japan has no restrictions for those returning to Ireland. I'd suggest that the real benefit of this site is assessing which countries are easiest to enter, and that you should rely on sites in your own countries to confirm what restrictions there are on returning home.

Anyway, I was on this forum looking at Cartagena a few weeks back, and suddenly there was a rapid spike in infections, just about the same time as it was announced that Phuket would be reopening. I booked a ticket with Qatar Airways. I'd recommend them if you can use them because their cancellation policy is they will give you a full cash refund if you cancel up to three hours before scheduled take-off. I have since cancelled. They have cancelled all flights transiting through the UK, which made my plans difficult but not impossible. However the real deal-breaker is that the Gov of Phuket are not allowing the bars to reopen. One did reopen on the first day, but it was closed the following day because of concerns over social distancing. It had about 40 customers. I have to ask, what did they expect if there was only one girly bar open. I should add that I am more barfly than beach bum. There was no way I could see myself having fun in a place that looks like Riyadh on a Friday morning during Ramadhan.

So now I am back looking at CTG again. Things are looking better in terms of infections. The active cases have decreased by 40 % in the past 4 weeks. If it carries on like this, I expect to arrive in four weeks.

Orgasmico
07-25-21, 21:54
Delirium is a total shit show. Way too small and way too packed, too many hookahs, you step in and by the time you step out the smoke smell in all in your clothes and hair. As soon as you step in its like you are walking into a NBA / NFL locker room, filled with black guys upstairs and downstairs. I was in downtown Medellin the other day and after a fabulous session with a Venezolana, I was chilling and to my surprise I saw a group of about 20 big dudes that look like they were part of football team. They had a local tour guide showing them around. I know a lot more crews are coming to Colombia but this was the biggest group of dudes I've seen. Kinda interesting seeing dudes that big surrounded by the mostly slim and shorter Colombians who many look like they only eat 1 meal a day.

The pic captured a few of the Americans.

Kafka
07-25-21, 22:18
I was in downtown Medellin the other day and after a fabulous session with a Venezolana, I was chilling and to my surprise I saw a group of about 20 big dudes that look like they were part of football team. They had a local tour guide showing them around. I know a lot more crews are coming to Colombia but this was the biggest group of dudes I've seen. Kinda interesting seeing dudes that big surrounded by the mostly slim and shorter Colombians who many look like they only eat 1 meal a day.

The pic captured a few of the Americans.Yeah that's the same stupid stuff that I saw in Cartagena. Gringo posses of low ballers, who like to put their DNA all over chicas and then split.

Nypher
07-26-21, 00:35
I was in downtown Medellin the other day and after a fabulous session with a Venezolana, I was chilling and to my surprise I saw a group of about 20 big dudes that look like they were part of football team. They had a local tour guide showing them around. I know a lot more crews are coming to Colombia but this was the biggest group of dudes I've seen. Kinda interesting seeing dudes that big surrounded by the mostly slim and shorter Colombians who many look like they only eat 1 meal a day.

The pic captured a few of the Americans.I'm happy to see more brothers travelling and experiencing things besides what we have to accept as normal in America but I wish they would leave the whole "Squad" mentality back home. They don't need a whole team with them, just one or two friends and that's it.

When run into these type of groups in the club I usually have to make it clear to the chicas that I'm not part of that group so I don't get pulled into the stigma those guys put off.

Kafka
07-26-21, 13:06
I'm happy to see more brothers travelling and experiencing things besides what we have to accept as normal in America but I wish they would leave the whole "Squad" mentality back home. They don't need a whole team with them, just one or two friends and that's it
When run into these type of groups in the club I usually have to make it clear to the chicas that I'm not part of that group so I don't get pulled into the stigma those guys put off.

On the beach when these posses show up all the massage ladies all the chicas, anyone with anything to sell swarms them-- it's a sea of fuchsia. It's like the pelicans when the fishermen bring in the nets..... And then they pretend it's like a club they want the girls to sit on their laps, buy them if you drinks take their phone number and split..... Girls are looking around like what happened?

Brother P
07-27-21, 14:03
I was in downtown Medellin the other day and after a fabulous session with a Venezolana, I was chilling and to my surprise I saw a group of about 20 big dudes that look like they were part of football team. They had a local tour guide showing them around. I know a lot more crews are coming to Colombia but this was the biggest group of dudes I've seen. Kinda interesting seeing dudes that big surrounded by the mostly slim and shorter Colombians who many look like they only eat 1 meal a day.

The pic captured a few of the Americans.I think youtube has encouraged the pack mentality. It's I saw small crews back in 2010-11. Plus a lot of dudes rolling solo.

I'm in Cartagena now and I'm seeing American couples! LOL.

Brother P
07-27-21, 14:17
I arrives in Cartagena Saturday. Spent the first two days in Laguito. Had an amiga come by the first night. Good as always. Centro was lit! Way more chicas than dudes LDV had hotter chicas than delirium. It varies night to night. Had a good time but didn't do a second pull. Day 2 hit Hollywood beach. Not many chicas, 2 groups of trannys. It was weird. Moved away from them down the beach and chilled. That night bar hoped centro with some America dudes I met. Pulled a smoking Venezuelan out of LDV, we had good chemistry immediately, may have helped that I was decently dressed, dunno. I'm cities like Cartagena, Medellíand, Panama etc, I try to where pants downtown at night. Anyway, I just offered 300 k, sexo con condom pero tubme chupas sin condom. She accepted. Straight GFE! A very nice experience.

Day 3 had to move to Bocagrande. I'm familiar with Laguito but not Bocagrande. Wandered around a but. Ended back on playa hollywood. This time alot of hot women. Got a number from a cute Venezuelan, buy ended up leaving with a hotter colombiana, dark skin, amazing body. Made the same offer, but by now I had bought her and her friend beers, no big.

Gie. Nice BBBJ, then she attacked my stick like she hadn't had sex in years! Lmao! Crazy! We Straight fu#the! Didn't go to centro last night. Old man had to rest! We'll see what tonight brings! Cartagena is lit!

Mr Enternational
07-27-21, 15:10
That night bar hoped centro with some America dudes I met. Umm hm. So now you rollin with a pack!

Lebyteme
07-27-21, 17:43
Brother P if you are offering $300 mil for 1 hour they will accept 90% of the time. That # on the high side.

Brother P
07-27-21, 17:47
Umm hm. So now you rollin with a pack!It's cool to meet people and kick it! Trust and believe I still do me! I have no problem saying imma catch yall cats later! LOL!

NycNewbie
07-27-21, 22:07
What's up fellas, I'm visiting Cartagena for the first time in August. I'm very excited, however I won't have time to see some ladies on my own as much, bc I'm traveling w family, and wifey in the midst. I was wondering what would be your tips (if any) in order for me to spend time with a girl, like what location should I visit? Etc. I'm in nyc and here we have locations we just go in and do our thing and be out fast. Is there such thing in Cartagena or is everything street walkers and hotel bookings? Let the boy know.

Kafka
07-28-21, 02:48
What's up fellas, I'm visiting Cartagena for the first time in August. I'm very excited, however I won't have time to see some ladies on my own as much, bc I'm traveling w family, and wifey in the midst. I was wondering what would be your tips (if any) in order for me to spend time with a girl, like what location should I visit? Etc. I'm in nyc and here we have locations we just go in and do our thing and be out fast. Is there such thing in Cartagena or is everything street walkers and hotel bookings? Let the boy know.There are casas all over. But you going to need local help. I'd contact the guy mentioned a few pages back. He can guide you If you can get over alone to Hollywood Beach during the day, Tony will set you up. Make sure its the real Tony, he spraks English pretty well.

RMundi000
07-28-21, 17:16
There are casas all over. But you going to need local help. I'd contact the guy mentioned a few pages back. He can guide you If you can get over alone to Hollywood Beach during the day, Tony will set you up. Make sure its the real Tony, he spraks English pretty well.He definitely has hookups and can find girls on the beach. But he is still a tout and will take you for as much as you let him. Be sure to ask what the prices of stuff is. The tabs he brings will probably be at least 50% inflated maybe more. Pay for what you consumed, and by all means tip but don't go overboard. If he does find you a girl on the beach he gets his cut from the girl you down owe him anything more.

Brother P
07-28-21, 17:22
Brother P if you are offering $300 mil for 1 hour they will accept 90% of the time. That # on the high side.It's on the high side. I used to make a point of talking.

Them down. I guess I'm not as cheap as I used to be. So far all have given good service and BBBJ, so I aint complaining bro!

Brother P
07-28-21, 17:26
Met a friend on the beach. He showed up with a case of beer. LOL.

Apparently they don't mind the beer if you pay 20000 for the chairs and umbrella. Plenty of cuties on the beach!

Hit centro, more cuties in ldv than delirium, a good time. Got a few numbers.

Decided to do a repeat, offered her 500 k todo la noche, sexo esta noche y en la maana, me chupas sin condom. A good night, fun, great BBBJ good sex, slept cuddled. LOL. Every now and then I need that. In the morning she got right to it! All good!

The Tall Man
07-28-21, 17:32
I arrives in Cartagena Saturday. Spent the first two days in Laguito. Had an amiga come by the first night. Good as always. Centro was lit! Way more chicas than dudes LDV had hotter chicas than delirium. It varies night to night. Had a good time but didn't do a second pull. Day 2 hit Hollywood beach. Not many chicas, 2 groups of trannys. It was weird. Moved away from them down the beach and chilled. That night bar hoped centro with some America dudes I met. Pulled a smoking Venezuelan out of LDV, we had good chemistry immediately, may have helped that I was decently dressed, dunno. I'm cities like Cartagena, Medelland, Panama etc, I try to where pants downtown at night. Anyway, I just offered 300 k, sexo con condom pero tubme chupas sin condom. She accepted. Straight GFE! A very nice experience.

Day 3 had to move to Bocagrande. I'm familiar with Laguito but not Bocagrande. Wandered around a but. Ended back on playa hollywood. This time alot of hot women. Got a number from a cute Venezuelan, buy ended up leaving with a hotter colombiana, dark skin, amazing body. Made the same offer, but by now I had bought her and her friend beers, no big.

Gie. Nice BBBJ, then she attacked my stick like she hadn't had sex in years! Lmao! Crazy! We Straight fu#the! Didn't go to centro last night. Old man had to rest! We'll see what tonight brings! Cartagena is lit!

Brother P if you are offering $300 mil for 1 hour they will accept 90% of the time. That # on the high side.To each his own. I was in Cartagena 3 weeks ago and yes the clock tower was swarming with some great looking chicas including Vennies and costenas and paisas and rollas BUT just returned home here to Medellin and as an example yesterday needed some car upgrades done in centro Medellin so afterwards headed to centro (the vera and botero) and found 2 new fresh and sweet Vennies with great attitudes and the sex was full GFE (nothing like teenage pussy) and the first Vennie I gave 80 mil and the second Vennie I found a few hours later was 90 mil, this included a clean motel room for an hour.

A few days ago I met a new paisa chica, a dark black chica from Medellin but family from the Choco region, and took this sweet heart into a 5 mil room (you can just imagine the skanky-ness of it all) and had off the charts hard sex like we were long lost lovers back in our teenage years. The cost? A fucking 60 mil and this included the cheap ass 5 mil back room motel.

Much love and respect to all!

The Tall Man.

Nypher
07-28-21, 17:42
There are casas all over. But you going to need local help. I'd contact the guy mentioned a few pages back. He can guide you If you can get over alone to Hollywood Beach during the day, Tony will set you up. Make sure its the real Tony, he spraks English pretty well.Every time I go to the 24 hour drug store in Bocagrande across from Hotel Dorado this guy keep coming up to me introducing himself as Tony Montana and keeps saying he's Tony number 1. Then he starts offering me girls and pointing me to a currency exchange spot that was over by Hotel Beijing but for some odd reason earlier this year he points me to one right next to Hotel Dorado. Said they moved meanwhile I take it upon myself to go to the previous one he pointed me to the year before and I remember the same old guy behind the counter.

Then he starts getting mad when I say I don't want girls I just want to exchange money and be on my way. I never pay much attention to what he looks like but he's a older light skin Hispanic guy. What do the real Tony looks like?

Mechanic88
07-28-21, 18:27
There are casas all over. But you going to need local help. I'd contact the guy mentioned a few pages back. He can guide you If you can get over alone to Hollywood Beach during the day, Tony will set you up. Make sure its the real Tony, he spraks English pretty well.Go to the clock tower after 8 or 9 pm. (The later the more girls available). Ask a girl how much once you agree on a price they'll take you to a nearby hotel maybe 5 min walk. Do your thing and leave LOL.

Nypher
07-28-21, 22:37
Go to the clock tower after 8 or 9 pm. (The later the more girls available). Ask a girl how much once you agree on a price they'll take you to a nearby hotel maybe 5 min walk. Do your thing and leave LOL.If someone finds themselves at the clocktower at that time of night, they are already at a disadvantage. Clock tower prices are at the higher end start at 300 k mil. For 1 hour or 1 leche. Same chicas are at Playa Hollywood in the day starting at 150 k mil.

If someone have to ASK the girl how much then they are already at a disadvantage. Tell the chica what you are willing to pay, then when she counters you with a higher number, negotiate to an acceptable price. Remember, the short time hotel costs comes out of your pocket, not hers.

Do not talk to the chica in dollars. If she talk to you in dollars, counter her with pesos at a lower number.

OnFireBoy
07-28-21, 23:29
Thanks for your opinion on Rincon Del Mar. Another poster here did not think highly of it but from what I have read previously and your comments, there are hints that it might be a hidden gem. However, a quick Google travel time inquiry stated it was 2 hours, 18 m from Cartagena. Google agreed with your stated drive time to Mompox from Cartagena with a 4 HR 55 m drive time. A bus does not sound like a good way to go there in that event. I can just imagine the condition of the bus. What do you think a private car would cost? If I rented a car, are the roads safe to drive for a tourist?Good news for you, form this month we have direct flights from Cartagena to Mompox, for date and prices you need to check directly on the airport the airline name is Servicio Aéreo Mompox, The flights will initially operate with three weekly frequencies, departing from Mompox at 7:00 am With the return at 4:00 pm, on Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

Source:

https://www.eluniversal.com.co/cartagena/desde-este-viernes-opera-el-vuelo-cartagena-mompox-cartagena-LY5023951

OnFireBoy
07-28-21, 23:45
Go to the clock tower after 8 or 9 pm. (The later the more girls available). Ask a girl how much once you agree on a price they'll take you to a nearby hotel maybe 5 min walk. Do your thing and leave LOL.It's better if you can wait one hour or half an hour before the curfew starts, and try to get a better price, last week I was with a friend at the clock tower and We negotiate with two hot Venezuelans,' Toda la Noche' at 250 k COP, each.

Obviously, if you have a local costeńo accent it will help a lot: the.

AmorPorFavor
07-29-21, 01:34
It's on the high side. I used to make a point of talking.

Them down. I guess I'm not as cheap as I used to be. So far all have given good service and BBBJ, so I aint complaining bro!Great reports. Keep up the good work down there. Its been my experience in life that you get what you pay for and I always need that GFE and BBJ.

Mr Enternational
07-29-21, 02:40
Its been my experience in life that you get what you pay forCertainly was not my experience with that Alfa Romeo I bought back in 1991. I paid for gold and I got a lemon.

AmorPorFavor
07-29-21, 02:44
Certainly was not my experience with that Alfa Romeo I bought back in 1991. I paid for gold and I got a lemon.Alfa Romeos suck. You should have known that.

Dublin12
07-29-21, 08:58
It's better if you can wait one hour or half an hour before the curfew starts, and try to get a better price, last week I was with a friend at the clock tower and We negotiate with two hot Venezuelans,' Toda la Noche' at 250 k COP, each.

Obviously, if you have a local costeo accent it will help a lot: the.I am in the process of planning my maiden trip to Cartagena and Colombia, with plenty of prior experience in SEA.

Over the years, I've found that regularly changing girls isn't always great. I often think to myself, "I wish I had kept yesterday's model, because tonight's ain't working for me". Therefore if I find one that does work, I usually keep them on. The idea of a Venezuelan is appealing because you can be pretty sure that they will have no local family attachments, so 24/7 is possible. That's what I find so appealing about SEA with many girls not being local to the area where they work.

I have a trip planned for 28 nights. What are the chances that for 250 k a day, I might find a girl, probably a Venezuelan because of the economic situation, that would be interested in a deal for a month? It would also involve regular shopping trips for about 100 k daily. I believe that GFE, deserves BFE in return.

Plan be, involves a side trip to Cucuta near the VZ border. Flights are typically in the region of about $50 one way. Spending a day or two conducting "job interviews", and importing the successful candidate to Cartagena. Any thoughts on either idea please?

During the meantime, I can't believe how difficult planning this trip is, particularly with regard to guest friendly hotels. I've never been a fan of ST hotels, and one that I saw on Youtube looked like the bailiffs had arrived and removed everything in the room including the carpets and replaced it with a bed from the local dump. You could not pay me to stay there. Other hotels generally were of the attitude that if you checked in with a girl, "OK", but if you changed girls, even though you paid the double room rate, that was not allowed or you had to pay a joiner fee.

So yesterday, I spent the day on Airbnb looking for rentals closes to Getsemani, and got my short list down to 15. I noticed that some of these were in the same ownership, so I thought it would be easier to ask about "guest friendly" to those who had 2 or more listings to help me reduce my short list. One has not replied. Another has said that all her props were in "respectable family areas". The third has said, "OK if they are of age but no wild parties". The last also said "No wild parties, and you must accept responsibility for the behaviour of your guest". My shortlist is now down to 4.

I am just waiting for the wife to return home from Japan tomorrow. She is part of the Japanese Olympic Nagging Team (hahaha). She has to undergo 5 days of self-isolation and a negative PCR test on Tuesday, after which I am free to book my trip.

The CV rates are improving rapidly in Colombia. Fatalities are down 60%, new cases down 65% and active cases, by 55% all in the last month. Things are looking good.

SouthernOcean
07-29-21, 14:24
I am coming back in late September. Love the Clock tower and Club women and have been very happy with the results. Nothing like seeing and talking to the woman before you chose. But this trip I would like to take advantage of the hot women and lower prices on Hollywood Beach. How do I find Tony and how do I know I have the right one?

SouthernOcean
07-29-21, 14:35
Is this the place you are talking about? If so it is like 2 buildings down from La Dolce Vita.

https://hotel-el-viajero-centro.negocio.site/They have an apartment for rent with a kitchen and balcony. They are very guest friendly. In fact they are a Love Hotel with hourly rates I think.

The Tall Man
07-29-21, 15:32
I am in the process of planning my maiden trip to Cartagena and Colombia, with plenty of prior experience in SEA.

Over the years, I've found that regularly changing girls isn't always great. I often think to myself, "I wish I had kept yesterday's model, because tonight's ain't working for me". Therefore if I find one that does work, I usually keep them on. The idea of a Venezuelan is appealing because you can be pretty sure that they will have no local family attachments, so 24/7 is possible. That's what I find so appealing about SEA with many girls not being local to the area where they work.

I have a trip planned for 28 nights. What are the chances that for 250 k a day, I might find a girl, probably a Venezuelan because of the economic situation, that would be interested in a deal for a month? It would also involve regular shopping trips for about 100 k daily. I believe that GFE, deserves BFE in return.

Plan be, involves a side trip to Cucuta near the VZ border. Flights are typically in the region of about $50 one way. Spending a day or two conducting "job interviews", and importing the successful candidate to Cartagena. Any thoughts on either idea please?

During the meantime, I can't believe how difficult planning this trip is, particularly with regard to guest friendly hotels. I've never been a fan of ST hotels, and one that I saw on Youtube looked like the bailiffs had arrived and removed everything in the room including the carpets and replaced it with a bed from the local dump. You could not pay me to stay there. Other hotels generally were of the attitude that if you checked in with a girl, "OK", but if you changed girls, even though you paid the double room rate, that was not allowed or you had to pay a joiner fee..I was in Cartagena 3 weeks ago and Cucuta last week, my 3rd visit to Cucuta, I live in Medellin. No reason to bring sand to the beach so frankly why anyone would even suggest to hire a GF for 28 days is beyond my comprehension but whatever floats your boat.

I get it that we also have different sized wallets but 250 k a day and 100 k a day for gifts for a 28 GF shack up is ridiculous on many levels, if your damn determined to try it have at it but the culture of the chicas and your expectations will probably end in disappointment.

Have you considered Bogota? It is a big city and many options and venues available just about everywhere, not to be overshadowed by my home city of Medellin.

Much love and respect to all!

The Tall Man.

Tomasb
07-29-21, 15:36
I would not try to import a working girl from Cucata, whether she is a Vennie or Colombiana. Your talking about spending a week with someone you don't know and is working the streets for a living and I don't see a positive outcome. Even three days could be problematic. Several years ago, I took a P4 P to San Andreas from MDE, actually two of them, and that was a disaster. They thought that in addition to what I agreed to pay them for their company, there would also be shopping trips etc included. The truth is most of us have nothing in common with these ladies. Some have hit the streets out of desperation or poverty, especially the Vennies, and most don't have near the education or language skills to enhance your side of the experience. You might even get bored screwing them after a few days when you consider all the other options out there.

Rent, don't buy.

Nypher
07-29-21, 16:24
I am in the process of planning my maiden trip to Cartagena and Colombia, with plenty of prior experience in SEA.

Over the years, I've found that regularly changing girls isn't always great. I often think to myself, "I wish I had kept yesterday's model, because tonight's ain't working for me". Therefore if I find one that does work, I usually keep them on. The idea of a Venezuelan is appealing because you can be pretty sure that they will have no local family attachments, so 24/7 is possible. That's what I find so appealing about SEA with many girls not being local to the area where they work.

I have a trip planned for 28 nights. What are the chances that for 250 k a day, I might find a girl, probably a Venezuelan because of the economic situation, that would be interested in a deal for a month? It would also involve regular shopping trips for about 100 k daily. I believe that GFE, deserves BFE in return.

Plan be, involves a side trip to Cucuta near the VZ border. Flights are typically in the region of about $50 one way. Spending a day or two conducting "job interviews", and importing the successful candidate to Cartagena. Any thoughts on either idea please?.I wish you the best of luck trying to get a chica for 250 k a day with sex included. With the amount of Americans going down there inflating the price it will be 300 k a day minimum with no sex included. Also don't take these girls from one region to another, you are asking for trouble. You can keep a girl for a few days, just make sure to send her ass home either every night or every morning over the course of those days. This is a new girl that you will just be meeting and you are there with no wingman, you do not want her to let her friends in while you are sleeping to tie you up and rob you. Desperation and poverty will cause people to do desperate things.

Kafka
07-29-21, 17:57
I am coming back in late September. Love the Clock tower and Club women and have been very happy with the results. Nothing like seeing and talking to the woman before you chose. But this trip I would like to take advantage of the hot women and lower prices on Hollywood Beach. How do I find Tony and how do I know I have the right one?All those guys were numbers on their back I'll find out what his number is in a minute.

Dublin12
07-29-21, 18:04
I would not try to import a working girl from Cucata, whether she is a Vennie or Colombiana. Your talking about spending a week with someone you don't know and is working the streets for a living and I don't see a positive outcome. Even three days could be problematic. Several years ago, I took a P4 P to San Andreas from MDE, actually two of them, and that was a disaster. They thought that in addition to what I agreed to pay them for their company, there would also be shopping trips etc included. The truth is most of us have nothing in common with these ladies. Some have hit the streets out of desperation or poverty, especially the Vennies, and most don't have near the education or language skills to enhance your side of the experience. You might even get bored screwing them after a few days when you consider all the other options out there.

Rent, don't buy.TYVM for the advice. Just to comment further Plan b.

I thought you might understand that I am renting and not buying. And most of my relationships are with girls I don't know with girls working the streets or the bars. As I said, there would be a "job interview" first and if she didn't pass, I'd try again with another candidate. I've spent several 10+ day stints with girls in, none of which I had anything in common with, and some of whom had no education and even less English. I'll come back to that shortly. But I think it's fair to say, I am not the hardest person to satisfy. If she can produce the happy ending. Is happy enough to be with me, and likes to drink, then she ticks most of my boxes.

Regarding education, I've told this story before, and quite possibly on here. So I am in Thailand and a girl chats to me with the usual opening gambit: "Where you from"?

"Ireland".

Her: "Holland"?

Me: "No. Ireland".

Her: "Island"? (meaning Iceland).

Me: "Irrrreland" (emphasising the "r" sound).

Her: "Irrreland".

Me: Yes. That's right. Do you know where that is"?

Her: "No".

Me: "Well you've just passed the intelligence test. Do you want a drink"?

Of course, in TH, there are plenty of foreigners so perhaps I can be one sided if I do need someone to talk to, and that might not be so available in Colombia. But I've found in TH and Cam in particular, the girl's prospect of "regular employment", nights out, shopping trips, restaurant dining and a nice room to go back to every night works well for me regardless of language barriers.

Regarding wanting to try other girls, that's always a factor. But as I originally said, I've often regretted changing girls. It took me a bit of time to discover it, but I've been with girls that were absolute stunners and often the girl's performance didn't match "the picture on the cover". I finally worked out that instead of looking for "10" girls, life was far better when I got a "10" experience.

Not sure if I will try "Plan b", but apart from the incompatibility issues that you raise, but I was also looking to see if anyone saw any logistical or legal probs in that? For example, it seems that most countries have a different interpretation of what constitutes "trafficking". I've checked out the PCR requirements and they are not needed on internal flights.

Kafka
07-29-21, 18:06
I am coming back in late September. Love the Clock tower and Club women and have been very happy with the results. Nothing like seeing and talking to the woman before you chose. But this trip I would like to take advantage of the hot women and lower prices on Hollywood Beach. How do I find Tony and how do I know I have the right one?All those guys were numbers on their back I'll find out what his number is in a minute. Tony is a little fat these days and he's always got one of those green Playa Hollywood shirts on, about 40 years old. There are two bars at the end of the beach if you walking from Boca grande to Laguito go to the second to the last bar and ask for him if you have to. It's the largest of the bars and I believe it's actually called playa Hollywood.

Kc Talent
07-29-21, 19:28
I'm getting ready to head back to CTG and started talking to my chicas. They are telling me the price might be different when I get there because allot of guys are asking the chicas TLN the prices in dollars and the girls are telling them $300 or $400 they are paying it and the girls are laughing at them. Now I know where they come from $300 for the night may seem like a bargain when they are accustom to pay $300 for the hour but paying $300 for the night is more than twice the price in COP.

This is aimed to the newer mongers.Thanks Nypher,

Your infor is what I have been looking for on the form. Still a little confused if 300 USD is twice the amount for TLN what is the norm in COP as USD what 150 USD fair or too much for TLN? I have seen on the form a good price for TLN as stated at the clock as 250 COP as a bargain price before curfew and 300 to 400 at the clubs or 80 and 90 for ST don't know if USD or COP.

I rare if at all do ST nor ask price for ST but only TLN. I have been working in the DR 3 months out of each year but play else where like in Tijuana and Costa Rica (see Photo) and know cost very well. CTG play ground I have plan for next month and will be my 1st. I have RTFF but will also contact this Tony because I want to go to Hollywood beach and clubs Delirium, Space and Dulce and like him find me a few University young chica.

Again, thank you for your helpful information.

Mojo Bandit
07-29-21, 20:26
How do I find Tony and how do I know I have the right one?At 1:31 he introduces Tony.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOr_tDC6_3U&t=438s

At 2:30.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGd8sxqmsa4&t=151s

Advosory: This is not an endorsement of Tony's services- this is becuase someone asked. I reccommned that if you use Tony's services, do so ony after after educating yourself to the costs.

Brother P
07-29-21, 20:40
Playa Hollywood all day! Near Tony but with Pedro. Too many cuties! Got a few numbers, another good day!

Hit centro at night, offered a smoking chica 300 k sexo con condom pero tu me chupas sin condom. She insisted on condom blow job so I passed. Ended up taking a cutie I had last trip for todo la noche. Good sex at night and the morning. Gave her 500 k. All good. Doing the same shit today!

Dublin12
07-29-21, 20:42
I was in Cartagena 3 weeks ago and Cucuta last week, my 3rd visit to Cucuta, I live in Medellin. No reason to bring sand to the beach so frankly why anyone would even suggest to hire a GF for 28 days is beyond my comprehension but whatever floats your boat.

I get it that we also have different sized wallets but 250 k a day and 100 k a day for gifts for a 28 GF shack up is ridiculous on many levels, if your damn determined to try it have at it but the culture of the chicas and your expectations will probably end in disappointment.

Have you considered Bogota? It is a big city and many options and venues available just about everywhere, not to be overshadowed by my home city of Medellin.

Much love and respect to all!

The Tall Man.Thanks for the reply.

I am sorry I have to keep repeating this, but if I find someone I am happy with, I am quite prepared to keep them on "staff". I don't have many more trips left in me and I don't want the yoyo of, "Today is crap, and yesterday was so much better. If I get in the groove, I want to stay in the groove. It might take me a few days to find someone who fits the bill, but once I do why gamble?

I am not sure what you mean by, " 250 k a day and 100 k a day for gifts for a 28 GF shack up is ridiculous on many levels"? That's about the same price as I might expect to pay in TH. Am I overpaying? I see plenty of stories on here of girls asking for 300 K. If it's about "spoiling it for the rest of us", that hardly applies because from the responses I've seen so far, it appears nobody wants to keep a girl for longer than two or three days.

I did consider Medellin and Bogota. I really don't fancy the latter.

Lebyteme
07-29-21, 21:04
News flash, you do not need Tony to talk to girls on Hollywood beach. Find a girl you like, call her over and use a app to translate. Not exactly the hardest thing in the world. Also short time from the beach should be no more than $200 mil pesos. Unless your extremely unattractive girls will agree to this price.

Dublin12
07-29-21, 21:27
I wish you the best of luck trying to get a chica for 250 k a day with sex included. With the amount of Americans going down there inflating the price it will be 300 k a day minimum with no sex included. Also don't take these girls from one region to another, you are asking for trouble. You can keep a girl for a few days, just make sure to send her ass home either every night or every morning over the course of those days. This is a new girl that you will just be meeting and you are there with no wingman, you do not want her to let her friends in while you are sleeping to tie you up and rob you. Desperation and poverty will cause people to do desperate things.Thanks for the input, I am assuming from what The Tall Man says, that he appears to think that 250 K is too high. If so, your opinion leaves me confused. Presuming that I find the right girl on day one, she will earn about $1800 for the 4 week period. That's about 4 X the average wage and the security of knowing that she will not have go back to say, the clock tower tomorrow in the hope of finding her next customer. Others will know better than me, but is that so unattractive?

Regarding a "wingman", this will my 27th trip since 2006, and I've never needed a wingman yet. In fact the worst trip I ever had was when I linked up with someone I knew from DUB. He met a Laotian who was on holiday in Pattaya and she was a freebie for a few days. But rather than say "bye bye" to her he was hiding away from her. I spent two days looking over my shoulder and seeing her there. She was stalking me, in case I met up with him. Eventually, he put in an appearance after she had given up and he told me that he had spent much of the last two days stalking her, while she was stalking me. What an arsehole!

Regarding being robbed, I am sure that is a possibility, but then, what's to stop last night's girl, seeing me on the street and then pointing me out to accomplices? In fact, the more girls that I go through, the more likely that scenario seems to me.

Thanks for the input of those who have written so far. It does seem to me that though all the advice is well meant, most you are having trouble coming to terms with my reluctance to change girls every day once I have met one that is likely to keep me happy. Regrettably, I am too old and worn out for hardcore mongering and so I tailor my needs to what I can handle.

Nounce
07-29-21, 21:29
I am not sure what you mean by, " 250 k a day and 100 k a day for gifts for a 28 GF shack up is ridiculous on many levels"? That's about the same price as I might expect to pay in TH. Am I overpaying? Maybe a different girl each day but that is a large amount of money for 28 days for a single girl. Have you done 28 days before? TH is much more expensive, about double but depending on what you are comparing. Just to give you some perspective to compare TH prices, the most expensive club I have been to in Cartagena outside of old city is 300 K to have sex on site. Regular club is less than half of that. In Medellin, it can go to less than 100K.


she will earn about $1800 for the 4 week period

How much will you spend after gift and food for the girl?

Nypher
07-29-21, 21:36
Thanks Nypher,

Your infor is what I have been looking for on the form. Still a little confused if 300 USD is twice the amount for TLN what is the norm in COP as USD what 150 USD fair or too much for TLN? I have seen on the form a good price for TLN as stated at the clock as 250 COP as a bargain price before curfew and 300 to 400 at the clubs or 80 and 90 for ST don't know if USD or COP.

I rare if at all do ST nor ask price for ST but only TLN. I have been working in the DR 3 months out of each year but play else where like in Tijuana and Costa Rica (see Photo) and know cost very well. CTG play ground I have plan for next month and will be my 1st. I have RTFF but will also contact this Tony because I want to go to Hollywood beach and clubs Delirium, Space and Dulce and like him find me a few University young chica.

Again, thank you for your helpful information.The prices depend on the monger.

If the monger lives in Colombia or he is a local he can get it for a lower price or even free if he plays the long game of taking her out. Knowing how to speak Spanish can help but if the monger don't know Colombian slang, she will just see the monger as a foreigner and will treat them as such.

Once the chica finds out the monger is only visiting then the prices change. A little "Que lo que" in Sosua goes a long way, the equivalent of that in Colombia I'm still trying to to learn.

Based on my daytime experience, if I get them around Playa Hollywood or El Laguito they can start at 150 K COP and top out at 300 K COP. 200 K COP is the reasonable amount. This is all ST. The 800 K COP price I've only experienced in Delirium, your experience may be different.

Based on my night time experience, if I get them from Centro, clock tower, Space, Dulce Vita or Delirium they start off at 300 K COP for ST and for TLN it can start from 500 K COP and top out at 800 K COP.

The mongers looks also matter when it comes to the price and service. If the monger have the appearance of a failed NFL line backer who looks like at any minute they can die from a combination of health problems the chica will tolerate the monger just for the money and run. If the monger does not have the appearance of a typical Playa Sosua monger who have to stack two of the beach chairs because a single chair will break under their weight the price and service will be decent JAJAJA!

To me, anything over 200 K COP for ST or 600 K COP for TLN is something I'm willing to walk away from. Keep in mind many of them will still ask for tip + taxi $$.

Mojo Bandit
07-29-21, 22:03
I am in the process of planning my maiden trip to Cartagena and Colombia, with plenty of prior experience in SEA.

The idea of a Venezuelan is appealing because you can be pretty sure that they will have no local family attachments, so 24/7 is possible. That's what I find so appealing about SEA with many girls not being local to the area where they work.

I have a trip planned for 28 nights. What are the chances that for 250 k a day, I might find a girl, probably a Venezuelan because of the economic situation, that would be interested in a deal for a month? It would also involve regular shopping trips for about 100 k daily. I believe that GFE, deserves BFE in return.
I personally think that your ratge of 250 k COP is fair compensation, considering that if you were doing a different chica TLN each night the minimum would be about 400 k a day and that is not even 24 hours. Not only that but in this type of long term thing it is just entirely up to you what you think is fair. Food and lodging cannot count toward her compensation because she would have those even if you were not there. Cash money is really all that counts toward comonesation and the gifts are just on you - this is the price you pay for exchanging BFE for GFE like you say. You might be able to find a lone chica that has wondered aross the border alone who has no children but I bet she has family in Venezuela and I bet she sends a lot of the money she makes to them.

My concern is that you may end up with dud. Years ago I hooked up with a semi-pro in Barranquilla and the first night was fantastic, shared a bottle of Don Julio and we had a blast. Then I decided to take her to Cartagena for a week. It was a lesson learned. I lived to regret that, she suddenly started getting head aches and was on the phone with her sister half the time and feeding me stories about the disasters that were going on there (that needed money to fix). I ended up putting her on a bus on the third day and I did not pay her the agreed rate and she was pissed but too bad. She was like Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde the way her personality changed once we got to Cartagena. So I would be concerned about making a commitment that I got stuck with.

Last thought I took a look and there actually some chicas on the website Seeking Arrangement that are listes as being in Cucuta so since you are seeking an arrangement... maybe you might try working that angle so you could talk to the chica before you even leave the country. The downsite is that there are only a few chicas there and the webiste is pricey

Mr Enternational
07-29-21, 22:03
If I get in the groove, I want to stay in the groove. It might take me a few days to find someone who fits the bill, but once I do why gamble?Because of diminishing returns.


If it's about "spoiling it for the rest of us", that hardly applies because from the responses I've seen so far, it appears nobody wants to keep a girl for longer than two or three days.You seem to assume the girls are willing to stay longer.


Presuming that I find the right girl on day one, she will earn about $1800 for the 4 week period. That's about 4 X the average wageExcept the average wage is $200, so that is 9X the average.


I am not sure what you mean by, " 250 k a day and 100 k a day for gifts for a 28 GF shack up is ridiculous on many levels"? That's about the same price as I might expect to pay in TH. Am I overpaying? Yep. I live in Thailand. I pay chicks $30/day; which would be 1,000 baht or 117,000 pesos. He meant for 28 days you are giving a chick $65/day, plus feeding her, plus buying her all the little shit she wants you to buy her during that time. So it will turn out more towards 350K or $90 per day for your accounting purposes. $2500.

Kafka
07-29-21, 22:08
Playa Hollywood all day! Near Tony but with Pedro. Too many cuties! Got a few numbers, another good day!

Hit centro at night, offered a smoking chica 300 k sexo con condom pero tu me chupas sin condom. She insisted on condom blow job so I passed. Ended up taking a cutie I had last trip for todo la noche. Good sex at night and the morning. Gave her 500 k. All good. Doing the same shit today!Pedro is cool. But Tony is territorial as far as me, and his English is a little better.

Tony wears #19. Green Jersey Playa Hollywood.

I'll be there mid-September.

Dublin12
07-29-21, 22:51
Maybe a different girl each day but that is a large amount of money for 28 days for a single girl. Have you done 28 days before? TH is much more expensive, about double but depending on what you are comparing. Just to give you some perspective to compare TH prices, the most expensive club I have been to in Cartagena outside of old city is 300 K to have sex on site. Regular club is less than half of that. In Medellin, it can go to less than 100K.



How much will you spend after gift and food for the girl?Thanks for the input. I presume you are talking ST in these clubs. But I don't want to be doing short times. I can manage once a day easily, and sometimes twice at a struggle, but what am I going to do with the rest of my time? I am more barfly than beach bum. So I wake up at say at 9. 00 amI don't speak the language and I'm going to spend most of the day waiting for the bars to open.

Regarding comparative costs, I know that Soi6 in Pattaya is all ST bars, and the going rate there is 1000 THB, and you will have to buy the lady at least one drink (150) and I presume a beer for yourself. That's about 150 k COP. Do the prices you mention include drinks? As far as additional costs are concerned, I am probably looking at about $750 in gifts. As for food, how expensive can it be? I certainly am not going to sit down in a resto, while she waits outside. I am going to be staying an at Airbnb, so she might even cook me the odd meal or two. I don't wish to seem arrogant, but money is not that great a problem for me. I am a "four week millionaire" instead of a two week millionaire, but unlike most of the latter, I have enough coming in, that I don't need to lead a frugal life for 50 weeks to have two weeks of hedonism.

I want to try to give all those who have kindly answered my post, an understanding that I know my limitations. I know what I am not going to enjoy, and that includes spending 4 weeks of daily visits to ST bar for one pop day. I still find myself confused by the responses to prices, but I presume that everyone answering has good experience of Colombia. That being the case, presume you are an unemployed chica who regularly visits the Clock Tower to make ends meet, and you don't have to get home every night. You are made an offer of 7 million for 4 weeks plus all expenses and a bit of shopping thrown in. Is that such a bad offer? But also, from what I've seen on YT vids where supply outstrips demand. How many girls are likely to earn that sort of money in that timeframe?

Dublin12
07-29-21, 23:23
I personally think that your ratge of 250 k COP is fair compensation, considering that if you were doing a different chica TLN each night the minimum would be about 400 k a day and that is not even 24 hours. Not only that but in this type of long term thing it is just entirely up to you what you think is fair. Food and lodging cannot count toward her compensation because she would have those even if you were not there. Cash money is really all that counts toward comonesation and the gifts are just on you - this is the price you pay for exchanging BFE for GFE like you say. You might be able to find a lone chica that has wondered aross the border alone who has no children but I bet she has family in Venezuela and I bet she sends a lot of the money she makes to them.

My concern is that you may end up with dud. Years ago I hooked up with a semi-pro in Barranquilla and the first night was fantastic, shared a bottle of Don Julio and we had a blast. Then I decided to take her to Cartagena for a week. It was a lesson learned. I lived to regret that, she suddenly started getting head aches and was on the phone with her sister half the time and feeding me stories about the disasters that were going on there (that needed money to fix). I ended up putting her on a bus on the third day and I did not pay her the agreed rate and she was pissed but too bad. She was like Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde the way her personality changed once we got to Cartagena. So I would be concerned about making a commitment that I got stuck with.

Last thought I took a look and there actually some chicas on the website Seeking Arrangement that are listes as being in Cucuta so since you are seeking an arrangement... maybe you might try working that angle so you could talk to the chica before you even leave the country. The downsite is that there are only a few chicas there and the webiste is priceySo you might think that the offer is not unreasonable? Just to take issue with you about food and accommodation, if I don't feed her, she has to pay for it herself. Of course she will probably be renting somewhere, but is it likely to be better than where I am renting? If not, then she enjoys a better standard of living, albeit temporary. Regarding her sending the cash to her family in VZ, why should that worry me? BKK and Pattaya is full of girls making remittances to families in Isaan. She earned it, She can spend it how she likes.

As far as ending up with a dud is concerned, the rules are simple. Her job is to keep me happy, and if she can't do that, then she has to go. I do expect some false starts along the way. And with Seeking Arrangement, the site owner is just a pimp in my eyes, and I would never knowingly pay a pimp.

Nounce
07-29-21, 23:40
I presume you are talking ST in these clubs. But I don't want to be doing short times. I understand that. The price is to provide a perspective compared to TH. I did not use the lower price for comparison. Cartagena is expensive compared to other cities. Since you mention Soi 6, then I can tell you the price is even lower on the low end in Colombia. Local beer can be as low as 35 THB, sex on site is 700 THB or less in a bar. Street girl is even cheaper. Someone reported fucking 6 girls for about 1700 THB just this week over in Medellin thread. I did the money conversion, hope I did them correctly.

My guess is you will be bored either way if you don't speak Spanish. Try not think the girls will think the way you do. That does not work.


And with Seeking Arrangement, the site owner is just a pimp in my eyes, and I would never knowingly pay a pimp.
I think SA may actually work out for you.

Dublin12
07-29-21, 23:43
Because of diminishing returns.

You seem to assume the girls are willing to stay longer.

Except the average wage is $200, so that is 9X the average.

Yep. I live in Thailand. I pay chicks $30/day; which would be 1,000 baht or 117,000 pesos. He meant for 28 days you are giving a chick $65/day, plus feeding her, plus buying her all the little shit she wants you to buy her during that time. So it will turn out more towards 350K or $90 per day for your accounting purposes. $2500.Thanks for your reply.

I don't get your "diminishing returns". Apart from my time. What is diminishing?

No assumption. This started out as a question. Are you saying it can't happen?

Not sure what your source is, but I got the average wage from google. https://www.google.com/search?q=average+wage+Colombia&rlz=1 C1 CHBF_enIE919 IE919&oq=average+wage+see&aqs=chrome. 1. 69 i57 j35 i39 j0 i512 l8. 7909 j0 j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 but if it's 9 x instead of 4 x, do you think, do you think they will be upset by that?

Yes. 1 k THB is not too difficult to find in TH. Regardless of your number crunching, what I am looking to do is not dissimilar to what I would do in TH.

Nypher
07-29-21, 23:59
At 1:31 he introduces Tony.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOr_tDC6_3U&t=438s

At 2:30.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGd8sxqmsa4&t=151s

Advosory: This is not an endorsement of Tony's services- this is becuase someone asked. I reccommned that if you use Tony's services, do so ony after after educating yourself to the costs.Thanks for pointing out the real Tony. I know who to look for now to get chairs.

Dublin12
07-30-21, 00:07
I understand that. The price is to provide a perspective compared to TH. I did not use the lower price for comparison. Cartagena is expensive compared to other cities. Since you mention Soi 6, then I can tell you the price is even lower on the low end in Colombia. Local beer can be as low as 35 THB, sex on site is 600 TBH or less in a bar. Street girl is even cheaper. Someone reported fucking 6 girls for about 1700 TBH just this week over in Medellin thread. I did the money conversion, hope I did them correctly.

My guess is you will be bored either way if you don't speak Spanish. Try not think the girls will think the way you do. That does not work.Thanks again. Your last sentence definitely is worth considering. All I can say about boredom, is that in the days before translation apps, I did several stints including 10+days with girls who spoke no English, and they seemed to know what was required of them, hence the length of the stay.

But I find it interesting that there is a total lack of consensus from all the people who have taken the trouble to reply. I'd guess that is because most people have the difficulty in thinking about limiting their choices so drastically as I am prepared to. Do. On the face of it, it may not make sense to them, but I know my limitations and past experiences.

I note that there has not been much comment on the Cucuta option, but the more I think of it, the more inclined I am to consider it not among my greatest ideas.

Elvis 2008
07-30-21, 00:16
Thanks for your reply.

I don't get your "diminishing returns". Apart from my time. What is diminishing?What he means is: the more you give a girl, the less she appreciates it.

There is nothing wrong with finding someone you like and hanging with her, however if you are paying her anything cash wise, you have to remember she is a working girl. Period. She may be a nice working girl, a great lay in bed, but she is a working girl. Any notion that she likes you for anything but money then is a mistake.

I keep saying this but there are Colombian women who want to hang out with American guys and not for just cash.

My current GF has gotten more from me than any other girl yet I have not given her dime for sex or just to hang out with me. See if you can find a woman who will fuck you for no payment. Then you have a keeper.

It is fine to hang with a working girl for cash but just make sure in your head that is what you have. If she expects money, she is with you for that and not for you. It is easy to get that confused, and the women are really good at keeping you confused on this subject, but you should remind yourself always of what she is and what you are.

What amazes me is American men are so comfortable being johns they miss out on so much free pussy. It is there in abundance if you think that you are worthy of it.

Mr Enternational
07-30-21, 00:37
I don't get your "diminishing returns". Apart from my time. What is diminishing?Your fun and satisfacation with the girl. She can't guarantee that even if she tries. And try to put her out when she has already spent that 28 days pay in her head and you are liable to have problems.


Not sure what your source is, but I got the average wage from google.My source is asking Colombians that I know in Colombia.

AmorPorFavor
07-30-21, 01:15
Playa Hollywood all day! Near Tony but with Pedro. Too many cuties! Got a few numbers, another good day!

Hit centro at night, offered a smoking chica 300 k sexo con condom pero tu me chupas sin condom. She insisted on condom blow job so I passed. Ended up taking a cutie I had last trip for todo la noche. Good sex at night and the morning. Gave her 500 k. All good. Doing the same shit today!I love your style. Sounds like you are having a great trip. I'll be back in Cartagena this winter. Had a trip all booked for April 2020 but of course that was shit canned by covid. Its just too hot and humid in the Caribbean for me in the summer cause I live in San Diego and its so nice here now with Tijuana 25 minutes away.

Kafka
07-30-21, 01:51
Thanks for pointing out the real Tony. I know who to look for now to get chairs.Don't' pay more than 50 for the chair. The actual price is 20.

Nypher
07-30-21, 01:51
Thanks for the input, I am assuming from what The Tall Man says, that he appears to think that 250 K is too high. If so, your opinion leaves me confused. Presuming that I find the right girl on day one, she will earn about $1800 for the 4 week period. That's about 4 X the average wage and the security of knowing that she will not have go back to say, the clock tower tomorrow in the hope of finding her next customer. Others will know better than me, but is that so unattractive?

Regarding a "wingman", this will my 27th trip since 2006, and I've never needed a wingman yet. In fact the worst trip I ever had was when I linked up with someone I knew from DUB. He met a Laotian who was on holiday in Pattaya and she was a freebie for a few days. But rather than say "bye bye" to her he was hiding away from her. I spent two days looking over my shoulder and seeing her there. She was stalking me, in case I met up with him. Eventually, he put in an appearance after she had given up and he told me that he had spent much of the last two days stalking her, while she was stalking me. What an arsehole!

Regarding being robbed, I am sure that is a possibility, but then, what's to stop last night's girl, seeing me on the street and then pointing me out to accomplices? In fact, the more girls that I go through, the more likely that scenario seems to me.Thailand have a different vibe from Colombia, especially Pattaya.

I find the Thai girls I met more honest and trusting, granted this was pre COVID so I don't know if they are the same now times are harder. I have partied hard in 808 blacked out and woke up in my hotel room with the girl I met in the club. Same with Flexx Club, I don't know how I made it down those steps and back to my hotel room but woke up with a girl next to me. They made sure this chocolate man got to bed safe 555. I would never do that in Colombia unless I was staying somewhere with security. Also how is your Spanish? Thailand was easier as many of the girls I ran into speak English but in Colombia the only ones who I find that can speak some little English are the ones that have normal jobs in the tourist areas. I've only ran into one prepago that spoke little English and it was very basic stuff.

As for being robbed, they won't point you out on the street for a gang to attack you, they will wait until they are in your apartment most likely sleeping then open the door to let their friends in, or drug you and clear out all your stuff. This have not happened to me yet, but I know someone it happened to who like to travel solo, and there are many stories like it. I would put safety first, then sexual needs second.

AmorPorFavor
07-30-21, 05:43
Thailand have a different vibe from Colombia, especially Pattaya.

I find the Thai girls I met more honest and trusting, granted this was pre COVID so I don't know if they are the same now times are harder. I have partied hard in 808 blacked out and woke up in my hotel room with the girl I met in the club. Same with Flexx Club, I don't know how I made it down those steps and back to my hotel room but woke up with a girl next to me. They made sure this chocolate man got to bed safe 555. I would never do that in Colombia unless I was staying somewhere with security. Also how is your Spanish? Thailand was easier as many of the girls I ran into speak English but in Colombia the only ones who I find that can speak some little English are the ones that have normal jobs in the tourist areas. I've only ran into one prepago that spoke little English and it was very basic stuff.

As for being robbed, they won't point you out on the street for a gang to attack you, they will wait until they are in your apartment most likely sleeping then open the door to let their friends in, or drug you and clear out all your stuff. This have not happened to me yet, but I know someone it happened to who like to travel solo, and there are many stories like it. I would put safety first, then sexual needs second.Did that robbery occur in Cartagena? Do you know of any like that in Cartagena? I would only stay in a place with security.

Kc Talent
07-30-21, 06:19
The prices depend on the monger.

If the monger lives in Colombia or he is a local he can get it for a lower price or even free if he plays the long game of taking her out. Knowing how to speak Spanish can help but if the monger don't know Colombian slang, she will just see the monger as a foreigner and will treat them as such.

Once the chica finds out the monger is only visiting then the prices change. A little "Que lo que" in Sosua goes a long way, the equivalent of that in Colombia I'm still trying to to learn.

Based on my daytime experience, if I get them around Playa Hollywood or El Laguito they can start at 150 K COP and top out at 300 K COP. 200 K COP is the reasonable amount. This is all ST. The 800 K COP price I've only experienced in Delirium, your experience may be different.

Based on my night time experience, if I get them from Centro, clock tower, Space, Dulce Vita or Delirium they start off at 300 K COP for ST and for TLN it can start from 500 K COP and top out at 800 K COP.

The mongers looks also matter when it comes to the price and service. If the monger have the appearance of a failed NFL line backer who looks like at any minute they can die from a combination of health problems the chica will tolerate the monger just for the money and run. If the monger does not have the appearance of a typical Playa Sosua monger who have to stack two of the beach chairs because a single chair will break under their weight the price and service will be decent JAJAJA!

To me, anything over 200 K COP for ST or 600 K COP for TLN is something I'm willing to walk away from. Keep in mind many of them will still ask for tip + taxi $$.Great, I think from your reply you gave the the ballpark information I requested I will be down on the week of the 10th. Can't said I know the Columbian "slang" but my Spanish is well enough to get by in my job with negotiations but they to see me as a foreigner that speaks Spanish but in the end, I win. I'm in good shape and love the beach jet ski and scuba dive. I spend very little time in So- Sewer while living in Santo DOM DR. Your information will help me with my chica negotiations, what's too high or not fair, as a monger I don't really care if the chica see me as a foreigner this little trip will be about pussy on the beach or Clock Tower clubs for ground and pound and maybe get that azz too. BE SAFE BE HAPPY.

RacShack
07-30-21, 06:25
Don't' pay more than 50 for the chair. The actual price is 20.So why not pay 20?

Mr Enternational
07-30-21, 07:47
Don't' pay more than 50 for the chair. The actual price is 20.What do you mean don't pay more than 50? A chair is either 4 or 12 depending on the style, not 20 or 50. You can get chairs and stuff from anywhere because the prices are regulated and supposed to be the same no matter who you get them from. I posted the prices from the government a while back and I shall post them again. If you are charged more than these prices there is a number listed here to call to report it.

Mr Enternational
07-30-21, 08:06
Did that robbery occur in Cartagena? Do you know of any like that in Cartagena? I would only stay in a place with security.LOL. Which robbery? They happen all the time all over Colombia. Just look at the news, read ISG, or join one of those Colombia expat facebook groups. A good buddy of mine was left destitute and in the gutter a few years back. They did not get him inside. They got him outside. Your place with security can not help you with that, unless you just plan to stay in and order chicks online.

Mr Enternational
07-30-21, 08:15
Thailand have a different vibe from Colombia, especially Pattaya.

I find the Thai girls I met more honest and trusting, granted this was pre COVID so I don't know if they are the same now times are harder. I have partied hard in 808 blacked out and woke up in my hotel room with the girl I met in the club. Same with Flexx Club, I don't know how I made it down those steps and back to my hotel room but woke up with a girl next to me. They made sure this chocolate man got to bed safe 555. I would never do that in Colombia Dude you are preaching to the choir. I left Flexx, must have been one morning, because the last thing I remembered was walking down Walking Street and it was daylight. I woke up in my bed and there was a chick next to me and I went back to sleep. Not sure if that was the time I left my bike on Walking Street or it happened to follow me home. No way in the hell I would do something like that in Colombia. I don't even drink at a place there unless I am with friends.

Dublin12
07-30-21, 09:11
What he means is: the more you give a girl, the less she appreciates it.

There is nothing wrong with finding someone you like and hanging with her, however if you are paying her anything cash wise, you have to remember she is a working girl. Period. She may be a nice working girl, a great lay in bed, but she is a working girl. Any notion that she likes you for anything but money then is a mistake.

I keep saying this but there are Colombian women who want to hang out with American guys and not for just cash.

My current GF has gotten more from me than any other girl yet I have not given her dime for sex or just to hang out with me. See if you can find a woman who will fuck you for no payment. Then you have a keeper.

It is fine to hang with a working girl for cash but just make sure in your head that is what you have. If she expects money, she is with you for that and not for you. It is easy to get that confused, and the women are really good at keeping you confused on this subject, but you should remind yourself always of what she is and what you are.

What amazes me is American men are so comfortable being johns they miss out on so much free pussy. It is there in abundance if you think that you are worthy of it.Just to clarify, I think my posts make it clear that I am not American. I am old. I am married (and I always make that clear). Why would anyone think that I am unaware that as far as the girl is concerned, this is anything other than a commercial transaction? Notwithstanding, that I prefer it to be commercial. In all the circumstances, all I am bringing to the party is my wallet.

As far as diminishing returns are concerned, I'd allow her one off day, but after, she is no longer what I want and she's gone.

Not sure if you've heard of it but there is a book called "Private Dancer" about a Brit who falls in love with a Thai hooker and his life is destroyed. I remember at the time it came out, all the Thai "sexperts" were raving about it saying that this was a bible of things not to do when in TH and was essential reading. Really? And if it had been set in any other location, the outcome would have been different? I know exactly what I am looking for: A commercial transaction which ends when she stops performing, or I go the airport. Whichever comes first.

Dublin12
07-30-21, 09:30
Your fun and satisfacation with the girl. She can't guarantee that even if she tries. And try to put her out when she has already spent that 28 days pay in her head and you are liable to have problems.

My source is asking Colombians that I know in Colombia.Thanks for clearing that up. I don't know why people would assume that if the girl fails to perform, that I would not be prepared to deal with the problem. If the worst comes to the worst. I move to another location. BTW, in spite of all my frailties, I can be very good fun on a night out out with a girl.

Regarding, local knowledge versus Google. I've looked at other sites, and I've seen $261 in another, so I am inclined to rely on your figure. Regardless, whether it is 4 x or 9 x, do you think many girls would be dissatisfied with my offer?

Dublin12
07-30-21, 09:59
Thailand have a different vibe from Colombia, especially Pattaya.

I find the Thai girls I met more honest and trusting, granted this was pre COVID so I don't know if they are the same now times are harder. I have partied hard in 808 blacked out and woke up in my hotel room with the girl I met in the club. Same with Flexx Club, I don't know how I made it down those steps and back to my hotel room but woke up with a girl next to me. They made sure this chocolate man got to bed safe 555. I would never do that in Colombia unless I was staying somewhere with security. Also how is your Spanish? Thailand was easier as many of the girls I ran into speak English but in Colombia the only ones who I find that can speak some little English are the ones that have normal jobs in the tourist areas. I've only ran into one prepago that spoke little English and it was very basic stuff.

As for being robbed, they won't point you out on the street for a gang to attack you, they will wait until they are in your apartment most likely sleeping then open the door to let their friends in, or drug you and clear out all your stuff. This have not happened to me yet, but I know someone it happened to who like to travel solo, and there are many stories like it. I would put safety first, then sexual needs second.Totally agree with you about the relative trustworthiness of Thais.

As I've already stated, I don't speak Spanish. But then again, I've never got that drunk on a monger trip, that I could not put myself to bed.

Yes there is always a chance you might be robbed down to the chica, and you know someone that happened to. How many people do you know that it hasn't happened to? And what are they going to get? On a good day after I've been to the ATM, maybe $300. By the time I've got home after night out, that might be $150 including the money for the girl. I have an old laptop, my phone, luggage, passport, a 35 year old Seiko watch and Debit card. Robbing me, will not change her way of life. I know you can't factor in the stupidity element, but if the door is opened from the inside, would the girl really think I would not figure out her role in this? But then again, you can never allow for the stupidity of desperation.

Mojo Bandit
07-30-21, 10:09
J
As far as diminishing returns are concerned, I'd allow her one off day, but after, she is no longer what I want and she's gone.
.I think a point being here that you could be prudent and not make the whole 28 day deal all at one time. So that way she cannot be thinking about all that 28 days worth of money if you need to pull out of the deal. Once you make that deal with her, in her mind it is set in stone. I would say something like "it is possible that I might need you for four weeks so I need to know that if I do then you would be available but because I might get called back to work and have to leave I am only going to hire you for a week at a time. If you do good each week and we get along and if I do not get called back to work then we'll do anoher week for the possibility of 4 total weeks" That way if she turns into a psycho or whiny neurotic then you have an out. "I got called back to work".

If on the other hand she turns into crazy girl and you have already made a 28 week deal, in her mind you owe her all that money even if you want out of the deal at day 2. And she may get real crazy and she may not only be more than you want to deal with but she may even call the cops. You think that the cops might be on your side, and they might or they might not,

I'm not sure if you know the story of the (former) United Sates Secret Service agent who got into a disagreement with hooker at the now infamous Hotel Caribe in Cartagena. He was on an advance team for when the president of the USA was going to be going down later for a meeting of the OSA. He and other Secret Service met up with some US DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency) guys who were working in Colombia (I used to spot them in the old La Dolce Vita in Laguito) so these agents were teaching him and some other Secret Service Agents about the "local talent". One Secret Service agent thought he could he could get out of paying this chica but she got the police involved and they were sympathetic to her. Prostitution is a legal profession there so they do not have to hide it and they can ask for police help.

It may seem unreasonable to you that she could give you a lousy time and expect all the money if you pull out of the deal but you cannot expect "reasonable", in her mind you dangled all this money in front of her and then welshed, so do not dangle more than you are willing to write off if things go south.

A funny thing about that incident with the secret service is that before this happened Colombia Tourism had commercials with the slogan "Colombia is Passion" - after this incident was splattered all over he world news, they quickly changed to a different slogan.

Dublin12
07-30-21, 10:46
I think a point being here that you could be prudent and not make the whole 28 day deal all at one time. So that way she cannot be thinking about all that 28 days worth of money if you need to pull out of the deal. Once you make that deal with her, in her mind it is set in stone. I would say something like "it is possible that I might need you for four weeks so I need to know that if I do then you would be available but because I might get called back to work and have to leave I am only going to hire you for a week at a time. If you do good each week and we get along and if I do not get called back to work then we'll do anoher week for the possibility of 4 total weeks" That way if she turns into a psycho or whiny neurotic then you have an out. "I got called back to work".

If on the other hand she turns iinto crazy girl and you have already made a 28 week deal, in her mind you owe her all that money even if you want out of the deal at day 2. And she may get real crazy and she may not only be more than you want to deal with but she may even call the cops. You think that the cops might be on your side, and they might or they might not,

I'm not sure if you know the story of the (former) United Sates Secret Service agent who got into a disagreement with hooker at the now infamous Hotel Caribe in Cartagena. He was on an advance team for when the president of the USA was going to be going down later or a meeting of the OSA. He and other Secret Service met up with some US DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency) guys who were working in Colombia (I used to spot them in the old La Dolce Vita in Laguito) so these agents were teaching him and some other Secret Service Agents about the "local talent". One Secret Service agent thought he could he could get out of paying this chica but she got the police involved and they were sympathetic to her. Prostitution is a legal profession there so they do not have to hide it and they can ask for police help.

It may seem unreasonable to you that she could give you a lousy time and expect all the money if you pull out of the deal but you cannot expect "reasonable", in her mind you dangled all this money in front of her and then welshed, so do not dangle more than you are willing to write off if things go south.

A funny thing to me about that incident is that before this happened Colombia Tourism had the slogan "Colombia is Passion" - after this incident was splattered all over he world news, they quickly changed to a different slogan.Much of what you say makes sense to me. A lot of my plan is clearly based on the reasonableness of others, and I am aware that there is a wide diversity on what some girls consider reasonable.

I am beginning to see a consensus here. I think most consider that it is doable, but that I shouldn't do it but for a variety of reasons. So now it becomes a question of my confidence in myself to handle a variety of scenarios. Hmmm?

Dublin12
07-30-21, 11:00
Just found this on Youtube posted today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3ev-nwM6Bo&t=304s.

At 7. 50, the poster mentions his hotel which appears to be girl friendly. Casa Pedro Romero which appears to be in Getsemani. Got to say, that the pics on Bookings.com don't make it look much more attractive than the vid itself, but I thought I should post because there is a paucity of info on such hotels. https://www.booking.com/hotel/co/casa-pedro-romero.en-gb.html?aid=318615;label=English_Ireland_EN_IE_29561940025-kQhWDxOXw%2A1l_FSzR4ZciQS113415594265%3Apl%3Ata%3Ap1%3Ap2%3Aac%3Aap%3Aneg%3Afi2658747816%3Atidsa-302083110424%3Alp1007850%3Ali%3Adec%3Adm;sid=e46ce9a5c302deb0a126f4b8917073d1;all_sr_blocks=49502903_91185023_0_1_0;checkin=2021-08-18;checkout=2021-09-15;dest_id=-579943;dest_type=city;dist=0;from_beach_non_key_ufi_sr=1;group_adults=2;group_children=0;hapos=1;highlighted_blocks=49502903_91185023_0_1_0;hpos=1;no_rooms=1;room1=A%2CA;sb_price_type=total;sr_order=popularity;sr_pri_blocks=49502903_91185023_0_1_0__325449600;srepoch=1627637340;srpvid=df5e42ae886a016c;type=total;ucfs=1&#hotelTmpl.

SouthernOcean
07-30-21, 11:26
Just found this on Youtube posted today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3ev-nwM6Bo&t=304s.

At 7. 50, the poster mentions his hotel which appears to be girl friendly. Casa Pedro Romero which appears to be in Getsemani. Got to say, that the pics on Bookings.com don't make it look much more attractive than the vid itself, but I thought I should post because there is a paucity of info on such hotels. https://www.booking.com/hotel/co/casa-pedro-romero.en-gb.html?aid=318615;label=English_Ireland_EN_IE_29561940025-kQhWDxOXw%2A1l_FSzR4ZciQS113415594265%3Apl%3Ata%3Ap1%3Ap2%3Aac%3Aap%3Aneg%3Afi2658747816%3Atidsa-302083110424%3Alp1007850%3Ali%3Adec%3Adm;sid=e46ce9a5c302deb0a126f4b8917073d1;all_sr_blocks=49502903_91185023_0_1_0;checkin=2021-08-18;checkout=2021-09-15;dest_id=-579943;dest_type=city;dist=0;from_beach_non_key_ufi_sr=1;group_adults=2;group_children=0;hapos=1;highlighted_blocks=49502903_91185023_0_1_0;hpos=1;no_rooms=1;room1=A%2CA;sb_price_type=total;sr_order=popularity;sr_pri_blocks=49502903_91185023_0_1_0__325449600;srepoch=1627637340;srpvid=df5e42ae886a016c;type=total;ucfs=1&#hotelTmpl.On Hollywood Beach I have used the Hotel Dann. It is literally on Hollywood Beach and is guest friendly. It runs about 70 to 80 USD per night but is very convenient. In the Walled City I use the El Viajero.

https://hotel-el-viajero-centro.negocio.site The rooms are cheap but clean. It located near the Clock Tower, the Dulce Vida and other pick spots.

GrownMan1
07-30-21, 11:37
Why some guys come to a mongering board to "Bragg" about getting free pussy? Then try to encourage other people to follow their lead. I thought it was across the board that we pretty much don't want "free". The only thing I want free is free-dom to tell a chica when to leave when I'm done with her. I'll gladly pay for that.

I would hate to have a "girlfriend" who's giving me " free" sex and bring her around a whole bunch of chicas who are getting paid for doing the same thing. Do you actually think your girl is really content watching her friend walk away with 500 k night? Meanwhile she's quiet and just hoping for your generosity?

I've played the free game. I didn't like the price I had to pay. I know now that I'the rather pay for her to leave. I thought that's what this forum was mostly about.

TheKid1989
07-30-21, 12:29
I think a point being here that you could be prudent and not make the whole 28 day deal all at one time. So that way she cannot be thinking about all that 28 days worth of money if you need to pull out of the deal. Once you make that deal with her, in her mind it is set in stone. I would say something like "it is possible that I might need you for four weeks so I need to know that if I do then you would be available but because I might get called back to work and have to leave I am only going to hire you for a week at a time. If you do good each week and we get along and if I do not get called back to work then we'll do anoher week for the possibility of 4 total weeks" That way if she turns into a psycho or whiny neurotic then you have an out. "I got called back to work".

If on the other hand she turns into crazy girl and you have already made a 28 week deal, in her mind you owe her all that money even if you want out of the deal at day 2. And she may get real crazy and she may not only be more than you want to deal with but she may even call the cops. You think that the cops might be on your side, and they might or they might not,

I'm not sure if you know the story of the (former) United Sates Secret Service agent who got into a disagreement with hooker at the now infamous Hotel Caribe in Cartagena. He was on an advance team for when the president of the USA was going to be going down later for a meeting of the OSA. He and other Secret Service met up with some US DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency) guys who were working in Colombia (I used to spot them in the old La Dolce Vita in Laguito) so these agents were teaching him and some other Secret Service Agents about the "local talent". One Secret Service agent thought he could he could get out of paying this chica but she got the police involved and they were sympathetic to her. Prostitution is a legal profession there so they do not have to hide it and they can ask for police help. .This is why I do everything thru text so I have proof of the convo and I make sure I say cop or usd.

Mr Enternational
07-30-21, 13:37
Regardless, whether it is 4 x or 9 x, do you think many girls would be dissatisfied with my offer?I do not think chicks will not be satisfied with your offer on paper. What I think is that you will have a difficult time finding someone to accept your offer. There is a different breed out there now. Chicks just want to get the money and be out. They are not trying to stick around for days on end like their predecessors were. These are ADD hookers.

Dublin12
07-30-21, 14:31
I've played the free game. I didn't like the price I had to pay. I know now that I'the rather pay for her to leave. I thought that's what this forum was mostly about.It appears to me that there are plenty of posts telling you to watch out for the hidden agenda. "Free" sex is not that difficult to find, but as you imply "free" comes with a price. Often the formula is pretty simple. You tell the girl what she wants to hear, and then having got what you want, you move on. That seems abusive to me. Alternately, where is the dishonesty in a cash relationship?

As for those who want to talk about their "freebies", you've probably got relative youth on your side right now, and good luck to you. But as you get older, opportunities are likely to decline, especially from the 20 somethings. Maybe then, you might start questioning the fact that she might have a hidden agenda.

Dublin12
07-30-21, 14:53
I do not think chicks will not be satisfied with your offer on paper. What I think is that you will have a difficult time finding someone to accept your offer. There is a different breed out there now. Chicks just want to get the money and be out. They are not trying to stick around for days on end like their predecessors were. These are ADD hookers.You might be right. But what are the chances of them earning COP 7 million over the next four weeks? I might be misreading the situation, but every time I see a vid of the Clock Tower, I see supply far outstipping demand. From what I have read here, I think I could probably go there most nights and get TLN for 250-300 K. Are you telling me that of the hundreds of girls that are there every night, I wouldn't be able to find a few who would not find it attractive to not have to worry about finding a customer for the next four weeks?

I know the vids don't tell the whole story, but I'd bet that many of the girls seen in these will go home empty handed on many nights.

Tomasb
07-30-21, 15:05
On Hollywood Beach I have used the Hotel Dann. It is literally on Hollywood Beach and is guest friendly. It runs about 70 to 80 USD per night but is very convenient. In the Walled City I use the El Viajero.

https://hotel-el-viajero-centro.negocio.site The rooms are cheap but clean. It located near the Clock Tower, the Dulce Vida and other pick spots.I checked out this video yesterday. The room he showed in El Viajero did not have a window though the hallway overlooked a downstairs patio of some sort. The room appeared to be quite tiny. I can't imagine anyone would want to stay there for the whole evening, which would cost $30 USD. The short time rate, according to him, was $10. He did not show the room that has a kitchen and balcony overlooking the street, which has been mentioned here. Other than that, he viewed a couple of place in Bocagrande; one was called Oz but that one was pricey at $50 per night but apparently allowed guests. The rooms were nice but too far from El Centro in my estimation.

Tomasb
07-30-21, 15:14
I have been going to Thailand for the past several years during the winter months. My last visit was the winter of 2020 at the beginning of Covid. One thing I like about Thailand, and Bangkok in particular, is how safe it is. You can walk down a street, or Soi as they call it there, in the middle of the wee hours and feel totally safe. I have had dozens of encounters with P4 P with not even the slightest feeling of menace or the thought someone may attempt to rob or drug me. It's just not part of their culture. There are always exceptions and urban legends but for the most part, I think it's quite safe. I suppose picking up a LB on the street late at night, being drunk etc. Is not such a great idea but in general there is no comparison to South America in terms of relative safety.


Totally agree with you about the relative trustworthiness of Thais.

As I've already stated, I don't speak Spanish. But then again, I've never got that drunk on a monger trip, that I could not put myself to bed.

Yes there is always a chance you might be robbed down to the chica, and you know someone that happened to. How many people do you know that it hasn't happened to? And what are they going to get? On a good day after I've been to the ATM, maybe $300. By the time I've got home after night out, that might be $150 including the money for the girl. I have an old laptop, my phone, luggage, passport, a 35 year old Seiko watch and Debit card. Robbing me, will not change her way of life. I know you can't factor in the stupidity element, but if the door is opened from the inside, would the girl really think I would not figure out her role in this? But then again, you can never allow for the stupidity of desperation.