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Mr Enternational
07-30-21, 15:46
Are you telling me that of the hundreds of girls that are there every night, I wouldn't be able to find a few who would not find it attractive to not have to worry about finding a customer for the next four weeks?You are approaching with an "If I was them" mindset. I am sure you know that women in the first place do not think like men. So you should know that third world uneducated (except for some of the Venezuelans that may be in the position due to political problems in their country) hookers most definitely do not think like first world educated men.

These chicks, or even chicks in general, do not think about tomorrow or next week. They only think about today. Then one day they wake up old and alone and wonder what the fuck happened. They lived for today without planning for tomorrow. They looked at "the clock tower" as something that would always be there when they needed, not thinking that one day they would no longer be clock tower material. They are not concerned with the four weeks steady work some old ass foreigner is offering, because for now they can just go back to the clock tower tomorrow.

AmorPorFavor
07-30-21, 15:53
LOL. Which robbery? They happen all the time all over Colombia. Just look at the news, read ISG, or join one of those Colombia expat facebook groups. A good buddy of mine was left destitute and in the gutter a few years back. They did not get him inside. They got him outside. Your place with security can not help you with that, unless you just plan to stay in and order chicks online.Since you know everything can you tell us if Cartagena, a world class tourist destination, is safer than Medellin, Bogota or other parts of Columbia? Do you have any buddies who were robbed or assaulted in Cartagena?

AmorPorFavor
07-30-21, 16:00
On Hollywood Beach I have used the Hotel Dann. It is literally on Hollywood Beach and is guest friendly. It runs about 70 to 80 USD per night but is very convenient. In the Walled City I use the El Viajero.

https://hotel-el-viajero-centro.negocio.site The rooms are cheap but clean. It located near the Clock Tower, the Dulce Vida and other pick spots.Does the Dann charge for extra guests beyond the first one?

Mr Enternational
07-30-21, 16:11
Since you know everything can you tell us if Cartagena, a world class tourist destination, is safer than Medellin, Bogota or other parts of Columbia?World class tourist destination? You sound like the Thai government in Pattaya saying they are about to make Pattaya rival Miami. Cartagena has a few old structures left over from the first Europeans that went to the place. If that makes it world class, then...

Safe is in the eyes of the beholder. You are asking that of someone that hangs out alone in downtown Medellin or Santa Fe in Bogota at 2 or 3 in the morming, something most guys on this board would not even do at high noon.


Do you have any buddies who were robbed or assaulted in Cartagena?My buddies do not hang out in Cartagena. They all know that "world class tourist destination" only means that we are going to charge you more for shit that is cheaper everywhere else.

AmorPorFavor
07-30-21, 16:24
World class tourist destination? You sound like the Thai government in Pattaya saying they are about to make Pattaya rival Miami. Cartagena has a few old structures left over from the first Europeans that went to the place. If that makes it world class, then...

Safe is in the eyes of the beholder. You are asking that of someone that hangs out alone in downtown Medellin or Santa Fe in Bogota at 2 or 3 in the morming, something most guys on this board would not even do at high noon.

My buddies do not hang out in Cartagena. They all know that "world class tourist destination" only means that we are going to charge you more for shit that is cheaper everywhere else.I don't think you go to many nice world class tourist destinations. They are expensive. Those are the only places that I travel to. Who do you think stays in all the luxury expensive hotels in Boca and Laguito that don't allow chicas in. Plus all the expensive cruise ships that port there? Tourists with moneda.

Nypher
07-30-21, 18:10
Did that robbery occur in Cartagena? Do you know of any like that in Cartagena? I would only stay in a place with security.It happened in Centro, he stayed at a place with no security because he didn't want them constantly asking him for money every time he bring girls in. From the way he explained it, he found the girl over by the Scotia Bank where the bus stops and big Exito. They went back to to his place and they were drinking and doing shots. When he woke up, the girl was gone, his phone was gone, his wallet with all his cards was gone, all his pesos gone, his sneakers and his jerseys gone, even took his cologne jajaja. All he had left was his passport in the safe with $100. He was lucky it happened on his last night there and not his first day. He kind of did it to himself though because he said the place he stayed at had a double cylinder lock so in order to leave the apartment he had to unlock the door from the inside with a key but he would always leave the key inside the lock so he wouldn't loose it and get locked inside.

Nypher
07-30-21, 18:20
What do you mean don't pay more than 50? A chair is either 4 or 12 depending on the style, not 20 or 50. You can get chairs and stuff from anywhere because the prices are regulated and supposed to be the same no matter who you get them from. I posted the prices from the government a while back and I shall post them again. If you are charged more than these prices there is a number listed here to call to report it.I usually never pay attention to the prices and they just show up at the end with some large number written on a napkin saying that's the total. It wasn't until I had a local chica with me and she kept track of what was ordered to make sure I didn't get ripped off and by her doing that I make sure giver her a little extra and make her a regular whenever I visit.

With this info, now I don't need to bring sand to the beach to enjoy it.

Nounce
07-30-21, 19:03
But I find it interesting that there is a total lack of consensus from all the people who have taken the trouble to reply. I'd guess that is because most people have the difficulty in thinking about limiting their choices so drastically as I am prepared to. Do. On the face of it, it may not make sense to them, but I know my limitations and past experiences.I know I will start with 1 or 2 days, then extend if I enjoy it even if I have to pay more. If you can have one for 7 days, then why not have 4 for 28 days. Your solution is not a real solution because you are replacing one problem with another.

Nypher
07-30-21, 19:16
Totally agree with you about the relative trustworthiness of Thais.

As I've already stated, I don't speak Spanish. But then again, I've never got that drunk on a monger trip, that I could not put myself to bed.

Yes there is always a chance you might be robbed down to the chica, and you know someone that happened to. How many people do you know that it hasn't happened to? And what are they going to get? On a good day after I've been to the ATM, maybe $300. By the time I've got home after night out, that might be $150 including the money for the girl. I have an old laptop, my phone, luggage, passport, a 35 year old Seiko watch and Debit card. Robbing me, will not change her way of life. I know you can't factor in the stupidity element, but if the door is opened from the inside, would the girl really think I would not figure out her role in this? But then again, you can never allow for the stupidity of desperation.All this depends on the Monger and how he moves.

Many of these chicas live day to day. They only care what they can get from the foreigner that day because they know they may never see him again once she leaves the apartment.

So the questions are always the same; Where are you from? Where are you staying? When are you leaving? When the monger gives them answers to those 3 questions the chica can estimate how much money the monger makes that they can afford to travel to their country, how much money the monger is willing to spend to sleep in comfort, and how much time they have to extract resources from the monger.

Similar to Thailand, allot of the girls do not work in the area they live. They will travel in a group 2 - 4 minimum and take the hours long bus ride into Cartagena on Thursday and rent a room together. If 1 girl can get 1 gringo for the day, the room fee is covered. Any additional gringo is profit from there on so if they can do 5 - 6 gringos a day each then leave on Sunday afternoon back to where they are from. Then a chica may not come back for another month because she made so much money. If something goes wrong, by the time the monger wakes up, that girl is long gone and its hard to identify her if they met on the street. Mongers are getting smarter and asking for the Instagram profile just incase something happens they have photos of the girl. At least in Thailand the hotels make the girl leave her ID at the front desk and she cannot get that ID back until the monger gives the front desk the "all clear", they also make copies of her ID just in case something happens to the girl the cops know which monger she went to see so everyone is on their best behavior.

In my experience in Colombia, the hotels and the apartments I've stayed at with security, the girl can just leave, pick up her ID, and be on her way. Security don't call the mongers room to make sure everything is OK for her to leave, or require the monger to physically escort her to the front desk to pick up the ID.

Nypher
07-30-21, 20:04
You might be right. But what are the chances of them earning COP 7 million over the next four weeks? I might be misreading the situation, but every time I see a vid of the Clock Tower, I see supply far outstipping demand. From what I have read here, I think I could probably go there most nights and get TLN for 250-300 K. Are you telling me that of the hundreds of girls that are there every night, I wouldn't be able to find a few who would not find it attractive to not have to worry about finding a customer for the next four weeks?

I know the vids don't tell the whole story, but I'd bet that many of the girls seen in these will go home empty handed on many nights.Its going to be very difficult for you to get a chica that will accept 250 k COP a day when that same chica can get 250 k COP per gringo she leche throughout the day. When the girls are at the Clock Tower, they are just putting in overtime. They already had 4 - 5 gringos earlier in the day and they are just seeing if they can make extra at night because that's when the gringos pay more. They can now charge higher for TLN. Remember, just because you see someone getting it for cheap does not mean that you will also get it for cheap.

Remember the chica will see you as you don't speak Spanish and you don't live there so how much can she get you to pay while tolerating you until the next gringo comes along. Gone are the days where we could pay the girl and she's willing to cook and clean for the monger without him asking because she was raised that way. Todays chicas who are just getting into the market are about extracting as much resources they can from a man before they become too old to get men's attention, most new chicas are aware their body has a time limit, and will try to leche you as fast as possible.

Elvis 2008
07-30-21, 20:34
Just to clarify, I think my posts make it clear that I am not American. I am old. I am married (and I always make that clear). Why would anyone think that I am unaware that as far as the girl is concerned, this is anything other than a commercial transaction? Notwithstanding, that I prefer it to be commercial. In all the circumstances, all I am bringing to the party is my wallet.

As far as diminishing returns are concerned, I'd allow her one off day, but after, she is no longer what I want and she's gone.You are looking in the wrong place with hookers. If you want an arrangement, you go to seeking.com. You need a woman who is able to think in a long term kind of a way and all the hooker types do is think short term.

As for Venezuelans, they are notoriously short term minded given what has gone on in their country and the best Venezuelans do not go to Cucuta but get to Medellin, CTG, and Bogota where the bigger money is. I have actually found them to be much more short term oriented than Colombians but all in all, they have been a little bit better in bed.

I have done seeking.com and gotten longer term relationships like the ones you seek, but if you are getting a combination of looks, performance, and someone who is able to think long term, those are the types of women looking to better themselves via work or school or are relied upon by their family. Point is that you are not going to be able to find one who satisfies your needs. You will have to spread the wealth via two or three.

As for hotels, I would register a room and put down one of the women and (maybe both) after you have had done your interviews and tryouts with them.

All in all, CTG was the worst of the five cities I went to. I only found a few prospects there. I even dated Miss Cartagena from there, and she was a bit of a hothead. Character wise, Bogota was the best. Medellin had the best looking women but the least reliable. Barranquilla was much sparser but my three best fucks in all of Colombia were from there.

Anyway, my guess is that you are going to go into the hooker pool and wind up disappointed. The hooker types IMO do not do well with long term anything.

Elvis 2008
07-30-21, 21:08
I'm not sure if you know the story of the (former) United Sates Secret Service agent who got into a disagreement with hooker at the now infamous Hotel Caribe in Cartagena. He was on an advance team for when the president of the USA was going to be going down later for a meeting of the OSA. He and other Secret Service met up with some US DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency) guys who were working in Colombia (I used to spot them in the old La Dolce Vita in Laguito) so these agents were teaching him and some other Secret Service Agents about the "local talent". One Secret Service agent thought he could he could get out of paying this chica but she got the police involved and they were sympathetic to her. Prostitution is a legal profession there so they do not have to hide it and they can ask for police help.Yeah, I figured I would read about this again having been to Colombia and now being skeptical of what went on in the American media: what I heard went on and what actually did are two different things. I thought that the police filed a complaint against a Secret Service officer and demanded that he pay up. When the SS agent did not pay, the hooker filed charges and the police contacted the American Embassy to complain. That is not what happened. After having been to Colombia, I was very skeptical the hotel and the police would side with a hooker over well to do cash rich Americans. I also did not know how much she asked for, and it was $800 for the night which we all know is fucking insane.

Here is a good account of what happened and is much more in line with what I have observed in Colombia:

https://www.washingtonian.com/2013/03/25/secret-service-prostitution-scandal-one-year-later/

But on their way back to the hotel, Suarez claims, she stopped to buy condoms and told Huntington that if they were going to spend the night together, he'd have to give her "a gift" afterward. She says that when she named her price—$800—Huntington didn't flinch. They continued on to the hotel.

What happened next is a matter of dispute. Huntington's version, according to sources familiar with his claims, is that he never knew Suarez was a prostitute and he told her to leave when she asked for money. Suarez—who later wrote a book about her night with the agent—claimed there was no misunderstanding and that she had clearly set her price before she went to the hotel.

Huntington gave Suarez the equivalent of about $30 in local currency and demanded she get out. "Let's go, *****. I'm not going to pay you," he said, according to Suarez, and shoved her out the door.

Suarez banged on the door of Bongino's room, across the hall, where her friend—who didn't ask to be paid—had spent the night. Suarez demanded that Bongino come up with the money to pay her. Suarez said that she threatened to call the police and that Bongino pleaded with her not to. He eventually went from room to room, asking his Secret Service brothers for "scoots," the term they use for local currency, or any US dollars they could spare. Bongino came up with $250 in mixed currency and gave it to Suarez.

During the commotion, a Colombian police officer, apparently stationed on the hotel floor, inquired about the argument and told Bongino he should pay Suarez. There are conflicting accounts about whether the police officer was advocating for Suarez or merely suggesting to Bongino that he give her the money to keep her quiet. But once she had the money—about a third of what she claimed she was owed—Suarez left the hotel with her friend and got into a cab. They never reported the incident.

The manager of the Hotel Caribe, according to firsthand accounts, was incensed by a list of complaints about his boorish American guests. These didn't have to do with prostitution—which the hotel is accustomed to managing—but with loud partying at the swimming pool, broken glasses, and reports of dog feces littering public areas of the hotel and dog hair in beds.

The dogs' mess could be blamed on the Secret Service and military K-9 teams. The impromptu pool party was staged by a group of military service members, also staying at the hotel, who had trucked in their own alcohol, according to a source on the ground that night.

As the hotel was taking stock of the damages, the head of security for the Caribe called the US Embassy to report that a Colombian police officer had intervened in an altercation between a Secret Service agent, Bongino, and a local prostitute, Suarez.

End of quote.

It is funny how our fucking press got a hold of this and turned it into a woman who performed and got stiffed when the truth is that she was trying to rip this guy off.

And the notion of federal employees doing whatever the fuck they want and raising a commotion pissing off all the other guests is something I could certainly believe.

But the notion that the police were stumping for a working girl charging $800 a night is fucking crazy. The other crazy notion is that a hotel would back a hooker over a paying customer.

After reading this article though, this fits what I have seen in Colombia. I just shake my head at the way this story was reported in our media. It fucking cracks me up.

Dublin12
07-30-21, 21:11
World class tourist destination? You sound like the Thai government in Pattaya saying they are about to make Pattaya rival Miami. Cartagena has a few old structures left over from the first Europeans that went to the place. If that makes it world class, then...

Safe is in the eyes of the beholder. You are asking that of someone that hangs out alone in downtown Medellin or Santa Fe in Bogota at 2 or 3 in the morming, something most guys on this board would not even do at high noon.

My buddies do not hang out in Cartagena. They all know that "world class tourist destination" only means that we are going to charge you more for shit that is cheaper everywhere else.I really can't make up my mind what troubles me most about reading your posts. The misogyny? The cynicism? Or maybe it's the persistent pessimism? Either way, you strike me as one of those people who always has to have the last word, so go for it. Ithink AmorPorFavor has got your number as someone who knows everything, but nothing nice.

ByeBye.

Mr Enternational
07-30-21, 21:18
I don't think you go to many nice world class tourist destinations. They are expensive. Those are the only places that I travel to. Who do you think stays in all the luxury expensive hotels in Boca and Laguito that don't allow chicas in. Plus all the expensive cruise ships that port there? Tourists with moneda.You are right. I kind of stopped after that water bungalow in Maldives. Expensive cruise ships were porting in Puerto Plata too and there are expensive places to stay there, but that does not make it world class!

Mr Enternational
07-30-21, 21:23
He kind of did it to himself though because he said the place he stayed at had a double cylinder lock so in order to leave the apartment he had to unlock the door from the inside with a key but he would always leave the key inside the lock so he wouldn't loose it and get locked inside.Yeah rookie move. I always hide the key between the trashcan and liner or behind a picture frame.

AmorPorFavor
07-30-21, 21:35
You are right. I kind of stopped after that water bungalow in Maldives. Expensive cruise ships were porting in Puerto Plata too and there are expensive places to stay there, but that does not make it world class!Cartagena is a very popular tourist destination unlike Medellin or Bogota. There is that better. There's a lot more to do than fuck hookers and millions of tourists were going there pre covid. https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/things-to-do-cartagena-colombia/index.html.

Mr Enternational
07-30-21, 21:35
I really can't make up my mind what troubles me most about reading your posts. The misogyny? The cynicism? Or maybe it's the persistent pessimism? Either way, you strike me as one of those people who always has to have the last word, so go for it. Ithink AmorPorFavor has got your number as someone who knows everything, but nothing nice.

ByeBye.LOL. I do not know everything, but I have a lot of experience in a lot of areas and a lot of countries. And if there is something I want to know then I have no problem asking whoever. Many things I have had to learn the hard way, so excuse me for trying to warn the next mf not to fuck up the same way I did.

I am a realist, not any of that other stuff you are ascribing to me. In grad school we used to have to do a swot analysis. Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, Threats. In the Navy we would say prepare for the worst, but hope for the best. Maybe you only subscribe to the hoping for the best part and looking at the strengths and opportunities, while not wanting to think about the drawbacks and downfalls. Good luck to you.

OnFireBoy
07-30-21, 22:24
I think it would be better if you negotiate with a girl here in Cartagena, I don't see any point in bringing a girl from Cucuta, when there are many to choose from here, I can help you with that, so you don't worry about being robbed or something like that, just send me a PM.


I am in the process of planning my maiden trip to Cartagena and Colombia, with plenty of prior experience in SEA.

Over the years, I've found that regularly changing girls isn't always great. I often think to myself, "I wish I had kept yesterday's model, because tonight's ain't working for me". Therefore if I find one that does work, I usually keep them on. The idea of a Venezuelan is appealing because you can be pretty sure that they will have no local family attachments, so 24/7 is possible. That's what I find so appealing about SEA with many girls not being local to the area where they work.

I have a trip planned for 28 nights. What are the chances that for 250 k a day, I might find a girl, probably a Venezuelan because of the economic situation, that would be interested in a deal for a month? It would also involve regular shopping trips for about 100 k daily. I believe that GFE, deserves BFE in return.

Plan be, involves a side trip to Cucuta near the VZ border. Flights are typically in the region of about $50 one way. Spending a day or two conducting "job interviews", and importing the successful candidate to Cartagena. Any thoughts on either idea please?.

OnFireBoy
07-30-21, 22:34
Since you know everything can you tell us if Cartagena, a world class tourist destination, is safer than Medellin, Bogota or other parts of Columbia? Do you have any buddies who were robbed or assaulted in Cartagena?As a local I can tell you that Medellin or Bogota are much more dangerous than Cartagena, Cartagena is a fairly small city compared to the two previous ones, and being a tourist city recognized worldwide as you say, security is very much taken care of in the areas more frequented by tourists, it is very rare to see a robbery in the walled city, maybe in the most remote areas the situation is different and if it is true that there is insecurity, but in places like Bocagrande or Laguito or on the beaches it is very rare to see a robbery.

Nypher
07-31-21, 01:00
Yeah, I figured I would read about this again having been to Colombia and now being skeptical of what went on in the American media: what I heard went on and what actually did are two different things. I thought that the police filed a complaint against a Secret Service officer and demanded that he pay up. When the SS agent did not pay, the hooker filed charges and the police contacted the American Embassy to complain. That is not what happened. After having been to Colombia, I was very skeptical the hotel and the police would side with a hooker over well to do cash rich Americans. I also did not know how much she asked for, and it was $800 for the night which we all know is fucking insane.At first I thought there was a misunderstanding between $800 and 800 K COP when the agent and the prepago made the deal. But after reading this happened in 2013, no way in hell TLN was 800 K COP in 2013. She was really trying to rip him off and he was stupid enough to let her in his hotel room after hearing the price.

He probably had it in his mind that because her friend gave it up for free to his colleague that he was going to get it for free as well. Jajaja.

AmorPorFavor
07-31-21, 01:37
As a local I can tell you that Medellin or Bogota are much more dangerous than Cartagena, Cartagena is a fairly small city compared to the two previous ones, and being a tourist city recognized worldwide as you say, security is very much taken care of in the areas more frequented by tourists, it is very rare to see a robbery in the walled city, maybe in the most remote areas the situation is different and if it is true that there is insecurity, but in places like Bocagrande or Laguito or on the beaches it is very rare to see a robbery.Thank you. That's what I thought. You are hired. See you this winter.

OnFireBoy
07-31-21, 01:46
New decree: Curfew changes and new sectors are opened in Cartagena.

- The curfew will be in force from 2:00 am Until 5:00 am Of everyday. The measure had been running until midnight.

- During the validity of the new decree, public or private events are allowed, which includes concerts, massive sporting events, and dance venues, with a maximum capacity of 50% of the capacity of the infrastructure where the event takes place. The event, guaranteeing physical distancing of at least 1 meter.

- The entrance to the authorized beaches will continue at 8:00 am Until 6:00 pm.

The mandatory use of face masks is ordered in public spaces and commercial establishments where social distancing must be guaranteed.

SouthernOcean
07-31-21, 12:04
Does the Dann charge for extra guests beyond the first one?I stayed there a couple of times to enjoy the beach. So one woman per stay. They do check here credentials so I am not sure if they would charge for the second one or not.

SouthernOcean
07-31-21, 12:26
Locked in for the last week of September. Would be nice to meet some folks who monger there and have a selection. I do love it there. And yes it is a world class historical site, aside from having beautiful women.

Never had any problems there and never lacked for a good selection. 300 cop for the hour is the most I have ever paid and that was a 9. I have no problem paying the young women to fuck an old man like me. I may negotiate a little but while 300 may seem high, I am good with it. I don't think one guy paying a little too much is going to hurt the market. Plus if you want those memories that seem to good to be true you have to pay. But if anyone knows a drop dead beautiful woman who takes less, I am interested. Looking forward to the trip and maybe meeting Tony or Fireman for some hand selected beauties. Going to try anal this trip. Anyone know how to ask for that.

Dublin12
07-31-21, 13:55
I think it would be better if you negotiate with a girl here in Cartagena, I don't see any point in bringing a girl from Cucuta, when there are many to choose from here, I can help you with that, so you don't worry about being robbed or something like that, just send me a PM.Thanks for that, but being robbed was not a paramount concern. The real issue for me is that Mr Knows Everything, says it can't be done. Not that I believe him, especially when you and others seem to think that apart from Cucuta, it is doable. I am not even sure most are saying that Cucuta can't be done, but more along the lines, "It's not something I would do if I were you".

Apparently the problem is the implied stupidity of Colombian women. I have no problem dealing with uneducated women. In all the hotspots for mongering. These are common, and it's rarely the girls fault. But I can't deal with stupidity and it seems that all I'm likely to find In Cartagena. It likely that these women would rather go to the clock tower every night where supply obviously outstrips demand, than accept a deal for COP 7 million. Apparently working girls are different and have no interest in repeat business. Then again I've read more than a few posts of girls not getting a customer and then going through their phone list to see which former client might be in need of company when the Clock Tower washes out for them.

I'm not sure I believe that. What I have in common with these girls is that I have spent most of my life in self-employment, If anybody has been in a similar position, they will tell you that as SE, you are at work most of your day even after you have gone home thinking. "What do I have to do to increase earnings and opportunities etc. But this does not seem to apply to Colombian Hookers.

BTW, just to explain, the appeal of Cucuta is that if did do a deal down there and imported her to Cartagena, I would not have the problem of her being gone for long stretches while she "went to work" for the day, or went home to "take care of the family". That's the appeal of Pattaya. Most of the girls have come hundreds of miles from Isaan, so those excuses don't really wash.

Dublin12
07-31-21, 15:49
Yeah, I figured I would read about this again having been to Colombia and now being skeptical of what went on in the American media: what I heard went on and what actually did are two different things. I thought that the police filed a complaint against a Secret Service officer and demanded that he pay up. When the SS agent did not pay, the hooker filed charges and the police contacted the American Embassy to complain. That is not what happened. After having been to Colombia, I was very skeptical the hotel and the police would side with a hooker over well to do cash rich Americans. I also did not know how much she asked for, and it was $800 for the night which we all know is fucking insane.

Here is a good account of what happened and is much more in line with what I have observed in Colombia:

https://www.washingtonian.com/2013/03/25/secret-service-prostitution-scandal-one-year-later/

But on their way back to the hotel, Suarez claims, she stopped to buy condoms and told Huntington that if they were going to spend the night together, he'd have to give her "a gift" afterward. She says that when she named her price$800Huntington didn't flinch. They continued on to the hotel.

What happened next is a matter of dispute. Huntington's version, according to sources familiar with his claims, is that he never knew Suarez was a prostitute and he told her to leave when she asked for money. Suarezwho later wrote a book about her night with the agentclaimed there was no misunderstanding and that she had clearly set her price before she went to the hotel.

Huntington gave Suarez the equivalent of about $30 in local currency and demanded she get out. "Let's go, *****. I'm not going to pay you," he said, according to Suarez, and shoved her out the door.

Suarez banged on the door of Bongino's room, across the hall, where her friendwho didn't ask to be paidhad spent the night. Suarez demanded that Bongino come up with the money to pay her. Suarez said that she threatened to call the police and that Bongino pleaded with her not to. He eventually went from room to room, asking his Secret Service brothers for "scoots," the term they use for local currency, or any US dollars they could spare. Bongino came up with $250 in mixed currency and gave it to Suarez.

During the commotion, a Colombian police officer, apparently stationed on the hotel floor, inquired about the argument and told Bongino he should pay Suarez. There are conflicting accounts about whether the police officer was advocating for Suarez or merely suggesting to Bongino that he give her the money to keep her quiet. But once she had the moneyabout a third of what she claimed she was owedSuarez left the hotel with her friend and got into a cab. They never reported the incident.

The manager of the Hotel Caribe, according to firsthand accounts, was incensed by a list of complaints about his boorish American guests. These didn't have to do with prostitutionwhich the hotel is accustomed to managingbut with loud partying at the swimming pool, broken glasses, and reports of dog feces littering public areas of the hotel and dog hair in beds.

The dogs' mess could be blamed on the Secret Service and military K-9 teams. The impromptu pool party was staged by a group of military service members, also staying at the hotel, who had trucked in their own alcohol, according to a source on the ground that night.

As the hotel was taking stock of the damages, the head of security for the Caribe called the US Embassy to report that a Colombian police officer had intervened in an altercation between a Secret Service agent, Bongino, and a local prostitute, Suarez.

End of quote.

It is funny how our fucking press got a hold of this and turned it into a woman who performed and got stiffed when the truth is that she was trying to rip this guy off.

And the notion of federal employees doing whatever the fuck they want and raising a commotion pissing off all the other guests is something I could certainly believe.

But the notion that the police were stumping for a working girl charging $800 a night is fucking crazy. The other crazy notion is that a hotel would back a hooker over a paying customer.

After reading this article though, this fits what I have seen in Colombia. I just shake my head at the way this story was reported in our media. It fucking cracks me up.I tend to be wary about all stories of sex-tourism caught in compromising situations. I recall seeing a story from Phils on another forum which immediately got my fake news radar twitching.

It concerned one of the frequent clean-up raids (extortions" that the Phils Police indulge in to enhance their reputation as "The best cops that money can buy" when they were raiding an unnamed bar in Angeles. The story was that they had caught an unnamed German tourist with a 13 yr old girl who was employed in the bar, in a "compromising situation" and had arrested him as well as several members of the bar staff. I read the media reports in several local papers that were online, and they were identical down to the last comma. Obviously, they had all been copied from the Police press release and not one of them voiced any concerns over the lack of identification of the suspect.

If you know anything about local journalism, you will know that one income stream is raised through selling the stories to other publications. This is a story that would easily sell in Germany. I looked on the German Media with a Google search, and couldn't find the story anywhere. How difficult would it have been for a local journo to slip a local cop a few pisos to get the name, age and origins of this man?

A couple of days later, in a follow up, I read that the man had been fined and allowed to continue his holiday in Phils, while he still remained unidentified. Of course that's what you do when you discover a foreign nonce molesting a 13 yr old girl! Isn't It?

A few weeks later, I saw an announcement about increased funding for the ICE squad attached to the Manila Embassy. Amongst the achievements claimed to merit this, was that they provided the tip off in this case. Hmmm?

And mention of ICE reminds me of another story concerning a BBC doc, "Stacey Dooley: Saving the Cybersex Girls". Much of which was filmed in Phils, and was about under-age girls performing online for pervs. About three quarters in, there is a scene, where ICE and local cops combine to take a down a local nonce, who is about to livestream his exploits with three girls aged 8,10 and 12. The police have accessed the video link and are sitting in a police station some distance from where this is happening. Incredibly, there are no cops in the immediate area and the police are waiting for the abuse to start, before they get into their cars to drive to the scene of the crime where the nonce is arrested. Once he is in handcuffs, Dooley tears into him about his actions. And I am thinking to myself, "You speak up for these children now? Why weren't you tearing into the police and ICE for allowing the kids to be molested in the first place"? As far as ICE and the Phils cops were concerned. I wondered if they would have been so willing to let their own children be used as bait, as they were to use these three kids.

This was about a year or so after the BBC were heavily criticised for the role in not bringing Jimmy Saville, one of their big name performers who had a 40 year history of molesting children, the mentally ill and handicapped, to account. I complained to the BBC about Dooley, but they rejected my complaint and could find no fault in her not questioning the actions of LE. Dooley's product invariably ends up on Youtube including this. A few days after they rejected my complaint, that vid was removed but I am not aware of her other vids being removed. I wonder why?

For those of you who don't know the name, it would not be unfair to describe her as a female version of PIers Morgan in that she always go for the sensational and resorts to bullying those who can't hit back.

Yet another doc of hers, "Stacey Dooley investigates sex trafficking", where this time the scene was Cambodia. She is "working" with the local cops, whose corruption far outstrips that of the Phils with many of them owning brothels. She gets invited to join the Cam police on a raid on a brothel where there are supposed to be children working. They get to within a couple of hundred yards of the building. Out come the binoculars and they spend a couple of minutes observing the place. A message comes across the radio in Khmer, which was that there was nobody in the house. The local police chief says, "Someone must have tipped them off". Does Dooley ask the cop why, how or who did this? The Cam police have a habit of confiscating footage that might be embarrassing to them what do you think Dooley might have said?

Again, if you have a little knowledge of these matters, you will probably know that when Doc makers go abroad, they hire a local "fixer" to deal with makers lack of local knowledge, and he arranges most things such as transport, interpreters, tracking down locals for interviews etc. I am just thinking in view of the esteem that the local cops are held in, that when Dooley told the fixer that she was going on a raid on a brothel with the local chief of police, did they have to give him the rest of the day off as he fell about laughing uncontrollably.

But regarding media sex scandals, there usually is some sort of story there. But so often, as in the cases I've just mentioned, the more interesting story is the questions that should be asked, but weren't.

Mr Enternational
07-31-21, 18:46
What I have in common with these girls is that I have spent most of my life in self-employment, If anybody has been in a similar position, they will tell you that as SE, you are at work most of your day even after you have gone home thinking. "What do I have to do to increase earnings and opportunities etc. But this does not seem to apply to Colombian Hookers.Thing is that you keep forgetting about culture. You should understand that better than anyone. Business is not done the same way in Latin America as it is done where you are from. In Latin America, if you want to increase earnings, instead of trying to gain more customers (opportunities) you simply raise prices on the customers that you already have.

Also most hookers you come across these days in the areas that you are talking about looking are going to be Venezuelan and not Colombian. I am not saying it will be either impossible or improbable to find what you are looking for. I am just saying that the game has changed all over Latin America of finding a GFE that will stay with you forever on end until you have to kick her out. These chicks are looking for the quick money and on to find the next one. They are not thinking a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush, as is said in our culture. They are thinking fuck this bird, I am heading back to the bush.

Nounce
07-31-21, 18:54
The real issue for me is that Mr Knows Everything, says it can't be done. I am not sure what you are referring to so I am guessing. This is what he said.


I do not think chicks will not be satisfied with your offer on paper. What I think is that you will have a difficult time finding someone to accept your offer. There is a different breed out there now. Chicks just want to get the money and be out. They are not trying to stick around for days on end like their predecessors were. These are ADD hookers.That is why I said SA may be a better option because you have a better chance to find someone not conditioned that way. I don't know what is your definition of pimp. As far as I know, SA doesn't take money from the girl, and doesn't control them like many pimps do. By extension, I will say when someone you meet online introduces a girl to you, and only thru him, that person is a pimp and I guess you will refuse too.

For 28 days, don't forget to negotiate her downtime due to her period.


Apparently the problem is the implied stupidity of Colombian women. It does not mean they are stupid when they don't think the way you do. Turn the table around, say you were Mr E, and the women were given advise. You see where this is going?

Sometimes, the best advice is the hardest to listen to.

Nypher
07-31-21, 19:18
. Going to try anal this trip. Anyone know how to ask for that.After traveling with some people that is into some far out fetish stuff, that question can be perceived differently.

I don't know if you are the type of monger who wants the chica to strap on a dildo and put it up your ass, or you are trying to put it up her ass but the approach to ask the question is straight forward. The same way a monger confirms the chica will do BBBJ is the same way to confirm if she does anal, just ask. It will be an extra cost though.

Nypher
07-31-21, 20:54
Apparently the problem is the implied stupidity of Colombian women. I have no problem dealing with uneducated women. In all the hotspots for mongering. These are common, and it's rarely the girls fault. But I can't deal with stupidity and it seems that all I'm likely to find In Cartagena. It likely that these women would rather go to the clock tower every night where supply obviously outstrips demand, than accept a deal for COP 7 million. Apparently working girls are different and have no interest in repeat business. Then again I've read more than a few posts of girls not getting a customer and then going through their phone list to see which former client might be in need of company when the Clock Tower washes out for them.
Gone are the days where a monger can pop a Mombo36 and smash a chica out for hours on end because she knows no leche = no money. So they are leaning toward the monger gets 1 leche or 1 hour, which ever comes first.

You may need proof of concept. If you want to see how many chicas operate in Latin America, download Tinder, purchase the Plus features for the extra $10 or your countries equivalent. Set your location to Cartagena, then start talking to the girls with your initial offer of 250 K a day sex included or 7 million for 28 days sex included. You will quickly find many chicas won't even reply back.

ElPapi
08-01-21, 00:00
New decree: Curfew changes and new sectors are opened in Cartagena.

- The curfew will be in force from 2:00 am Until 5:00 am Of everyday. The measure had been running until midnight.

- During the validity of the new decree, public or private events are allowed, which includes concerts, massive sporting events, and dance venues, with a maximum capacity of 50% of the capacity of the infrastructure where the event takes place. The event, guaranteeing physical distancing of at least 1 meter.

- The entrance to the authorized beaches will continue at 8:00 am Until 6:00 pm.

The mandatory use of face masks is ordered in public spaces and commercial establishments where social distancing must be guaranteed.Thank you bro for the latest update. See you soon.

Kc Talent
08-01-21, 05:46
As a local I can tell you that Medellin or Bogota are much more dangerous than Cartagena, Cartagena is a fairly small city compared to the two previous ones, and being a tourist city recognized worldwide as you say, security is very much taken care of in the areas more frequented by tourists, it is very rare to see a robbery in the walled city, maybe in the most remote areas the situation is different and if it is true that there is insecurity, but in places like Bocagrande or Laguito or on the beaches it is very rare to see a robbery.I have no fears of being robbed, Living in the USA and the DR I have a little more fear of robbery or carjacking so while traveling I do it smart, little to no drinking outside my apartment keep my distance and don't allow people to get up in your space and don't be overly flashy with jewelry and play attention, if you see the same faces show up in locations you was at prior, its highly likely you are being followed. Nothing new just the same rules as we have all followed for years. Yes last guy said that's what he thought too and your hired but mine is real and I will hire you for what I need and will PM you now and will wait your reply.

Mr Enternational
08-01-21, 06:37
My girlfriend and her sister got robbed the shit out of the other day. She lives in Valledupar where the population is 490,000, so it is smaller than Cartagena's 900,000. I told her that I would not think mfs are committing crimes like that in small ass cities. She said it is sad to say, but it can and does happen everywhere.

En todos lados roban es lamentable decirlo pero es asi y valledupar es la ciudad donde vivi no es la excepcion amor.

Y bueno estabamos en una tienda comprando unas cosas con mi hermana y en ese momento llegaron a robar. Ya colocamos la denuncia tambien hay un video gracias a Dios habian camaras cerca todo es cuention ahora de las autoridades amor.

And no she did not ask me to buy her a new phone like chicks do these simps:

Me toca comprar un nuevo telefono y listo. Apenas pueda comprarlo te dare mi nuevo numero mi amor esta bien.

Dublin12
08-01-21, 08:52
I am not sure what you are referring to so I am guessing. This is what he said.

That is why I said SA may be a better option because you have a better chance to find someone not conditioned that way. I don't know what is your definition of pimp. As far as I know, SA doesn't take money from the girl, and doesn't control them like many pimps do. By extension, I will say when someone you meet online introduces a girl to you, and only thru him, that person is a pimp and I guess you will refuse too.

For 28 days, don't forget to negotiate her downtime due to her period.

It does not mean they are stupid when they don't think the way you do. Turn the table around, say you were Mr E, and the women were given advise. You see where this is going?

Sometimes, the best advice is the hardest to listen to.Regarding Mr E, and your last sentence, at the best of times, I have a problem taking advice from anyone whose posts consists of misogyny, cynicism and pessimism. He may possibly be right, but the general consensus seems to be "It can be done, but it's not something I would even consider". That's fair enough, but I have to adapt my game to my circumstances, and my previous experience of what works best for me. So with nobody else apparently having even tried it, and others suggesting that it can be done, why should I listen to Mr E.

As far SA is concerned, what is happening on that site is undoubtedly P4 P and he is clearly acting as an intermediary. So what is the difference between an intermediary who takes the money from the customer in advance, and one who takes it from the woman after the event?

But let's be honest on my part, and admit to a degree of hypocrisy on the issue of paying pimps. I do and have paid barfines in SEA. I justify this exception on the grounds that if I take a girl from a bar and something goes wrong, I do have limited rights of redress, because most bars realise that if you have a good customer, it is not good for business for the girls to screw them over. It's my practice to pay the girl as soon as she enters my room. On one occasion, the girl vanished while I was in the shower. I went back to her bar, and she wasn't there. Told the manager what had occurred. She said she'd speak with the girl. The following day, I went back to the bar and was reimbursed for the 2 K, but not the barfine. They had taken the money from her monthly salary that she was due. It's a rare event in TH in particular for a girl to do that, but I have known of a couple of incidents where bars have helped customers recover stolen property from errant bargirls.

Turning to the issue of "downtime", I am pretty sure that I would not have to make a deduction for that, as I am confident that the girls are aware of more than one way of producing a happy ending.

That just leaves the issue of stupidity. My take on that is these girls are self-employed, they have a limited shelf-life, and looking at the Clock Tower, there definitely looks like over-supply to demand issue. I also read that prices fall the nearer you get to curfew time. My suspicion is that most of them are there, not because they want to be, but because they need to be, and my guess is that more will go home empty-handed than with a client most nights. Now factor in how many of those girls will earn COP 7 million in the next 28 days. Yet I am led to believe, that most girls have the attitude, "I won't accept this offer because the Clock Tower, (with all it's drawbacks: my thought) will still be there tomorrow". That strikes me as stupid.

But then looking at Mr E's comment, he does in fact concede that I might be able to get Venezuelan's to fit the bill. Clearly, I know nothing about the differences in Colombian and VZ girls, but would that be such a bad thing? I've seen reports of VZ girls on this site, and I have yet to see anyone say that they generally underperform compared to the local vintage. And as I mentioned in my Cucuta idea, VZ girls do have the advantage of being unlikely to have local attachments necessitating their absences for long periods.

Regardless, your points are noted and my reply to you is more governed by the contradictions that your post makes in respect of Mr E's posts, than any unwillingness to listen to your input.

Dublin12
08-01-21, 09:18
Gone are the days where a monger can pop a Mombo36 and smash a chica out for hours on end because she knows no leche = no money. So they are leaning toward the monger gets 1 leche or 1 hour, which ever comes first.

You may need proof of concept. If you want to see how many chicas operate in Latin America, download Tinder, purchase the Plus features for the extra $10 or your countries equivalent. Set your location to Cartagena, then start talking to the girls with your initial offer of 250 K a day sex included or 7 million for 28 days sex included. You will quickly find many chicas won't even reply back.I've never tried Tinder and admit that I am not a fan of the concept. But if locals are using it because they are only in interested in ST, why would I want to?

Mr Enternational
08-01-21, 12:23
Regarding Mr E, and your last sentence, at the best of times, I have a problem taking advice from anyone whose posts consists of misogyny, cynicism and pessimism. He may possibly be right, butMan you are funny. And it seems you have not really read anything I have said, at leasr not read it for understanding. So damn the content of what someone says. If you do not like how they said it then you are willing to discard the information to your own detriment.


So with nobody else apparently having even tried it, and others suggesting that it can be done, why should I listen to Mr E.Shows exactly that you did not read because I said that I am not saying it is not possible or probably, which means it is possible and probable. So I did suggest it could be done.


But let's be honest on my part, and admit to a degree of hypocrisy on the issue of paying pimps. I do and have paid barfines in SEA. I justify this exception on the grounds that if I take a girl from a bar and something goes wrong, I do have limited rights of redressSo you have no problem with the pimps if they can assure things will work out in your favor?


That just leaves the issue of stupidity. My take on that is these girls are self-employed, they have a limited shelf-life, and looking at the Clock Tower, there definitely looks like over-supply to demand issue. I also read that prices fall the nearer you get to curfew time. My suspicion is that most of them are there, not because they want to be, but because they need to be, and my guess is that more will go home empty-handed than with a client most nights. Now factor in how many of those girls will earn COP 7 million in the next 28 days. Yet I am led to believe, that most girls have the attitude, "I won't accept this offer because the Clock Tower, (with all it's drawbacks: my thought) will still be there tomorrow". That strikes me as stupid.I never said the chicks are stupid. I said they are uneducated. Here you are saying they are stupid if they do this. So who is really the misogynist here? I made no judgment about the people. All I did was tell you how the culture works. But it seems to be beyond you that people would do this simply because you would not do this.

Just like if I said people in Thailand eat roaches. Because you would not eat roaches you assume that they would not as well. Then you ascribe that I am talking down on them because I merely relayed a piece of information. Then you go on to say it is stupid to eat roaches. But you not being able to see yourself doing it and considering it stupid, does not negate the fact that they actually do it.


But then looking at Mr E's comment, he does in fact concede that I might be able to get Venezuelan's to fit the bill.I never said which nationality would or would not do something. You were fixated on Colombians. I was just notifying you that with the route you are taking that you would. Encounter more Venezuelans than Colombians. I do get it. You assume that because you are going to Colombia, then all the chicks or the majoity of them would be Colombian. But it is just like if you go to Boca Chica or Sosua in the Domimican Republic. The majority of the hookers out and about are going to be Haitian and not Dominican as one would assume.


Regardless, your points are noted and my reply to you is more governed by the contradictions that your post makes in respect of Mr E's posts, than any unwillingness to listen to your input.LOL. I think you read his post wrong as well!

KyngK
08-01-21, 18:31
No problem, Any information you need just tell me here, no PM is needed for that.Will be in Cartagena the dates of Sept. 1st -6th, would love to link up, grab drinks, & check out some of the hot spots!

Piupiu
08-01-21, 20:59
Hey guys,

I will also start my first Colombia trip in 3 weeks, mongering around mainly in Cartagena and Medellin.

I've never been to South-America (only Thailand etc.), so would be cool to have some cervezas together. I am in my mid-30 is now. I will start my journey End-August in CTG.

I also started yesterday with some Tinder experiments. I am still not sure how to spot women there, that want to earn some extra money.

In TH ist was clearly more obviously. Any clues? Girls only dressed in bikinis? Is there a special Tinder-guide? Can I ask here if she seeking work work like in TH or could this be an offense? Would be great to receive some additional input.

Nypher
08-01-21, 21:39
I've never tried Tinder and admit that I am not a fan of the concept. But if locals are using it because they are only in interested in ST, why would I want to?A lot of girls use it as another avenue to maximize their advising.

Some use it exclusively because they can get the gringo before he lands as opposed to going to the clock tower or the discos to compete with all the other chicas for gringos.

The good thing about Tinder is that you are doing the work before you land and getting into their head to see their personality. You will see which ones are all about the money and which ones are more genuine. Some of the best girls I've had was from Tinder, I make sure in my profile I put they must be under 25, no kids, must have Cedula to enter property.

I'm going to agree with the other poster and suggest Seeking Arrangements as they may be more long term minded.

Right now you have a few options to try and get what you are looking for. OnFireBoy, Seeking arrangement, Tinder, and the Clock Tower.

Kc Talent
08-02-21, 01:54
The prices vary according to the girl but for the whole night or all day on a yacht in Cholon, they are between 300 K and 500 K COP, my advice is that the night before you go to Cholon, try to meet some girls establish a mutual connection and thus be able to obtain a much lower price, and if you can stay with her from the night before it would be ideal if you are interested I have contact with some university girls that you do not find in pages or discos or in the clock tower and It could come out at a better price.

Regards.You are hired if you accept.

I need your help will pay for your help with 3 important task. I will be in Cartagena, Colom bia on August 10 to August 15 2021.

Task #1 The Law Firm Has put me in the Hyatt not good. I would like you to find me an apartment, just find the name of the contact and let me know if it is great or just good and we will book it with our travel agency top cost under or at $ 100 USD per night. Must have super good Wi-Fi, walk in shower and hot water not just warm, balcony with good view. Not too far from Clock Tower and over night guest friendly. Let me know your cost for this task We will pay 1/2 once you let me know if its good with everything I want and other half once we get it booked after you give the contact information we can send this to you WU that day.

Task #2 you to go to Clock Tower Clubs with me Space, Dulce, Delibum and Marino House one night during my visist but not 1st night. I need your cost for this service.

Task #3 I would like to get with 1-2 of your Young University girls with super hot bodies. Toda la noche your cost of find fee need to know your fee not hers. Paid when.

Service is made. Me more beach monger than club monger. Will explain later for my low to no attention is the way I move Don't want to be in the news. Get back to me ASAP.

KC TALENT MLBI sent this to you in a PM.

Nypher
08-02-21, 03:18
You are hired if you accept.

I need your help will pay for your help with 3 important task. I will be in Cartagena, Colom bia on August 10 to August 15 2021.

Task #1 The Law Firm Has put me in the Hyatt not good. I would like you to find me an apartment, just find the name of the contact and let me know if it is great or just good and we will book it with our travel agency top cost under or at $ 100 USD per night. Must have super good Wi-Fi, walk in shower and hot water not just warm, balcony with good view. Not too far from Clock Tower and over night guest friendly. Let me know your cost for this task We will pay 1/2 once you let me know if its good with everything I want and other half once we get it booked after you give the contact information we can send this to you WU that day.

Task #2 you to go to Clock Tower Clubs with me Space, Dulce, Delibum and Marino House one night during my visist but not 1st night. I need your cost for this service.

Task #3 I would like to get with 1-2 of your Young University girls with super hot bodies. Toda la noche your cost of find fee need to know your fee not hers. Paid when..Task #1 Is a high possible no. Guest friendly, under $100 per night, hot water, and close to the Clock tower? Good luck on such short notice getting a place like this because every monger would have that place booked 24/7 if it existed. Your only options may be hotels in Boca Grande or El Laguito with Cab rides back and forth to the clock tower for 8000 K each way. I can suggest OZ Hotel.

Task #2 Try to avoid buyers remorse, if you get something from a club, do not exit the walls from the the Clock Tower side jajaja.

Nypher
08-02-21, 03:49
Hey guys,

I will also start my first Colombia trip in 3 weeks, mongering around mainly in Cartagena and Medellin.

I've never been to South-America (only Thailand etc.), so would be cool to have some cervezas together. I am in my mid-30 is now. I will start my journey End-August in CTG.

I also started yesterday with some Tinder experiments. I am still not sure how to spot women there, that want to earn some extra money.

In TH ist was clearly more obviously. Any clues? Girls only dressed in bikinis? Is there a special Tinder-guide? Can I ask here if she seeking work work like in TH or could this be an offense? Would be great to receive some additional input.If they have their Instagram profile listed, or they have their whatsapp number in their profile, or you see allot of bikini pics, or sexual poses, or open mouth with tongue sticking out looking like they are ready to catch the leche, or they have pics of selfies in a mirror where you can see the rear of the phone and in the rear of the phone is American currency, then you know what's up and you can begin with the usual Hola, Como estas? When they reply its usually "bien why tu" and you can follow back with "Muy bien" then ask "Prepargo?" or "Tu cobras?" and they usually come back with "Si" or "Obvio" if by chance you get a "no" then immediately unmatch. If you get a "Si" you next step is to take the conversation outside of tinder and continue it on whatsapp or instagram where you can discuss prices and services. Once you start the conversation outside of Tinder, go back and unmatch them because they can be vindictive and report you, once you get too many reports, they will ban you. I've been there, had to make a whole new Facebook with fake name and a new phone number just to use Tinder again.

You are however beginning talks way too early. Once they find out when you are coming they will most likely say they will wait for you, or see you when you get here, and then they will stop responding to you until you actually get there. I usually start swiping a few days before my arrival date and line them up.

Dublin12
08-02-21, 09:04
A lot of girls use it as another avenue to maximize their advising.

Some use it exclusively because they can get the gringo before he lands as opposed to going to the clock tower or the discos to compete with all the other chicas for gringos.

The good thing about Tinder is that you are doing the work before you land and getting into their head to see their personality. You will see which ones are all about the money and which ones are more genuine. Some of the best girls I've had was from Tinder, I make sure in my profile I put they must be under 25, no kids, must have Cedula to enter property.

I'm going to agree with the other poster and suggest Seeking Arrangements as they may be more long term minded.

Right now you have a few options to try and get what you are looking for. OnFireBoy, Seeking arrangement, Tinder, and the Clock Tower.Best of luck to those who try to get ahead of the game. I am all for the enterprising girls.

My reservations about Tinder is that it has more than it's fair share of predators and scammers. I suppose the same can be said of other apps such as online dating, but you have a chance to do some online screening, such as reverse google image searches. I also try to get email addresses because you can do "Whois" lookups on the IP address. A few years back I was suspicious of a girl who claimed to be the daughter of Vietnamese asylum seekers. I did a "whois" and the IP had it's own entry beginning with the IP address followed by "Is linked to notorious Ghanain Scammer name. " In short, Tinder does not really allow for me to do any due-diligence before you get into a verbal convo with the other party. When using an online app, I can usually figure out in about 3 or 4 messages, whether I am dealing with a potential scammer.

GreenBud
08-02-21, 10:59
I have a trip planned for 28 nights. What are the chances that for 250 k a day, I might find a girl, probably a Venezuelan because of the economic situation, that would be interested in a deal for a month? It would also involve regular shopping trips for about 100 k daily. I believe that GFE, deserves BFE in return.- I understand your point of view. I was thinking the same thing, except I was thinking of hiring a girl from Bogota's Santa Fe, and taking her to Santa Marta for 1 or 2 weeks. IMO, Bogota is so much better than Medellin and Cucuta, mainly because of the size of Santa Fe. So much larger, so much selection available. Only thing is if you get a girl from Facebook. It seems that is Medellin scene.

- For variety, I would change the 3rd girl (who I will try to find in Santa Marta) in a threesome. There are numerous advantages of bringing in a known performer. You will have a guarantee GFE with at least 1 girl. It is always hit and miss getting a new girl. Also, even if the hotel is absolutely non guest friendly, you should be able to bring that girl with you IF you check in with her during your initial check-in. Assuming it will be the same for the Airbnb if you add her name when you register.

- I was thinking how much to offer. I'm just guessing, but in 2019 I was talking to a regular. She is decent, above average. On a long day of working, she would at least make 200 K. On a good day, she said she made between 300-400 K. So I'm guessing she normally makes between 200-300 K per day. I was thinking you have to consider what she makes in a day. I was thinking of offering her 300 K per day. Maybe I should save some money and offer her 250 K per day. I wouldn't give her 100 K in gifts everyday, but I would buy her 2 outfits for Bogota and 2 outfits for Santa Marta. I wouldn't want her to dress like a puta when I take her to restaurants and clubs. And then I probably will give her a tip at the end. I have a soft spot for girls who suck my dick.

- People are saying you are overpaying because you are not getting the 2 discounts that are potentially available. The long term discount for 28 days, and the discount many girls will accept being wined and dined at a nice resort. But 1 advantage of paying her full wage everyday is that you can tell her to leave anytime. I would offer her the full wage at 300 K per day for however long I want to keep her. You should always negotiate everything in advance.

- Overpaying is ok for you and her. As I said, I have a soft spot for girls that do everything I say. It is fucking ridiculous when people (here and other threads) say that the girls will respect you more if you pay the local price. Some idiot in the Brazilian thread said that the girl will scoff at you in the room if buy a $10 lady's drink. Ridiculous! How would anyone know! Yes, many girls will talk shit about nerds, nice guys, big spenders. But those same girls will talk shit about the cheap charlies, when those people are not in the room. Absolutely ridiculous if people think that there are advantages in paying the local price instead of a little extra. The real question is, is there an advantage in overpaying. That is the real question! There might be, but it would depend on the girl. For many girls, overpaying probably will not make a difference. (Another thread that should be started). I like to research, find the local price, and then maybe depending on the circumstances, overpay by a little.

- I'm surprised no one brought up the problem you might have if you hire a Venezuelan. Will the airlines and hotel accept her ID? Also, there are ones with papers and without. Will the airlines and hotels accept the Venezuelan without official papers. Is Venezuelan ID sufficient?

- If you have the girl's ID, that should offer some protection of getting robbed.

Kafka
08-02-21, 16:33
Let me get this in before I block you who cares.... Your attitude you going to get robbed.


- I understand your point of view. I was thinking the same thing, except I was thinking of hiring a girl from Bogota's Santa Fe, and taking her to Santa Marta for 1 or 2 weeks. IMO, Bogota is so much better than Medellin and Cucuta, mainly because of the size of Santa Fe. So much larger, so much selection available. Only thing is if you get a girl from Facebook. It seems that is Medellin scene.

- For variety, I would change the 3rd girl (who I will try to find in Santa Marta) in a threesome. There are numerous advantages of bringing in a known performer. You will have a guarantee GFE with at least 1 girl. It is always hit and miss getting a new girl. Also, even if the hotel is absolutely non guest friendly, you should be able to bring that girl with you IF you check in with her during your initial check-in. Assuming it will be the same for the Airbnb if you add her name when you register.

- I was thinking how much to offer. I'm just guessing, but in 2019 I was talking to a regular. She is decent, above average. On a long day of working, she would at least make 200 K. On a good day, she said she made between 300-400 K. So I'm guessing she normally makes between 200-300 K per day. I was thinking you have to consider what she makes in a day. I was thinking of offering her 300 K per day. Maybe I should save some money and offer her 250 K per day. I wouldn't give her 100 K in gifts everyday, but I would buy her 2 outfits for Bogota and 2 outfits for Santa Marta. I wouldn't want her to dress like a puta when I take her to restaurants and clubs. And then I probably will give her a tip at the end. I have a soft spot for girls who suck my dick.

- People are saying you are overpaying because you are not getting the 2 discounts that are potentially available. The long term discount for 28 days, and the discount many girls will accept being wined and dined at a nice resort. But 1 advantage of paying her full wage everyday is that you can tell her to leave anytime. I would offer her the full wage at 300 K per day for however long I want to keep her. You should always negotiate everything in advance.

- Overpaying is ok for you and her. As I said, I have a soft spot for girls that do everything I say. It is fucking ridiculous when people (here and other threads) say that the girls will respect you more if you pay the local price. Some idiot in the Brazilian thread said that the girl will scoff at you in the room if buy a $10 lady's drink. Ridiculous! How would anyone know! Yes, many girls will talk shit about nerds, nice guys, big spenders. But those same girls will talk shit about the cheap charlies, when those people are not in the room. Absolutely ridiculous if people think that there are advantages in paying the local price instead of a little extra. The real question is, is there an advantage in overpaying. That is the real question! There might be, but it would depend on the girl. For many girls, overpaying probably will not make a difference. (Another thread that should be started). I like to research, find the local price, and then maybe depending on the circumstances, overpay by a little.

- I'm surprised no one brought up the problem you might have if you hire a Venezuelan. Will the airlines and hotel accept her ID? Also, there are ones with papers and without. Will the airlines and hotels accept the Venezuelan without official papers. Is Venezuelan ID sufficient?

- If you have the girl's ID, that should offer some protection of getting robbed.

Kc Talent
08-02-21, 17:13
Task #1 Is a high possible no. Guest friendly, under $100 per night, hot water, and close to the Clock tower? Good luck on such short notice getting a place like this because every monger would have that place booked 24/7 if it existed. Your only options may be hotels in Boca Grande or El Laguito with Cab rides back and forth to the clock tower for 8000 K each way. I can suggest OZ Hotel.

Task #2 Try to avoid buyers remorse, if you get something from a club, do not exit the walls from the the Clock Tower side jajaja.Thanks Nypher, great heads up information. I was hoping my monger brothers would have contacts they have used that are apartment owners that they would supply me with, but as of today not a one. The OZ I would take but it is sold out for my dates. I don't mind the cab rides back and forth or the cost if I could find something in Boca Grande or EL Laguito no luck yet. I think I will just go back in my bag and pull out a little leverage. Since the agency is sending me emails on places to book as a urgency I have advised them to book it only if my (Fake) co-worker can get in with a late arrival (midnight) without a name until they arrive because I don't know who the firm will be sending. Talked to one apartment manager she said " Okay but only need ID to check in". I think I will try this angel and just hope the chica have her ID since we booked for 2 and already paid for 2. Hope to still hear from brother monger with apartment owners contact information. Thanks Nypher I will avoid the exist from clock tower at all cost.

Nounce
08-02-21, 18:29
I also try to get email addresses because you can do "Whois" lookups on the IP address. A few years back I was suspicious of a girl who claimed to be the daughter of Vietnamese asylum seekers. I did a "whois" and the IP had it's own entry beginning with the IP address followed by "Is linked to notorious Ghanain Scammer name. " Whois is for domain name, not email address.

Kafka
08-02-21, 21:28
There's a map with all the hotels and places you can stay marked as to whether they're guests friendly or not I'm not sure exactly where l. Find the map someone wants a lot of trouble to I'm not sure who did it hillbilly or world traveler.


Thanks Nypher, great heads up information. I was hoping my monger brothers would have contacts they have used that are apartment owners that they would supply me with, but as of today not a one. The OZ I would take but it is sold out for my dates. I don't mind the cab rides back and forth or the cost if I could find something in Boca Grande or EL Laguito no luck yet. I think I will just go back in my bag and pull out a little leverage. Since the agency is sending me emails on places to book as a urgency I have advised them to book it only if my (Fake) co-worker can get in with a late arrival (midnight) without a name until they arrive because I don't know who the firm will be sending. Talked to one apartment manager she said " Okay but only need ID to check in". I think I will try this angel and just hope the chica have her ID since we booked for 2 and already paid for 2. Hope to still hear from brother monger with apartment owners contact information. Thanks Nypher I will avoid the exist from clock tower at all cost.

TheKid1989
08-02-21, 22:41
Hey guys,

I will also start my first Colombia trip in 3 weeks, mongering around mainly in Cartagena and Medellin.

I've never been to South-America (only Thailand etc.), so would be cool to have some cervezas together. I am in my mid-30 is now. I will start my journey End-August in CTG.

I also started yesterday with some Tinder experiments. I am still not sure how to spot women there, that want to earn some extra money.

In TH ist was clearly more obviously. Any clues? Girls only dressed in bikinis? Is there a special Tinder-guide? Can I ask here if she seeking work work like in TH or could this be an offense? Would be great to receive some additional input.It's Colombia bro every girl on tinder is selling pussy. You can be in ya mid 30 or mid 70's all they care about is what in ya wallet LOL. Ain't no free pussy in Colombia.

Mojo Bandit
08-03-21, 07:50
There's a map with all the hotels and places you can stay marked as to whether they're guests friendly or not I'm not sure exactly where l. Find the map someone wants a lot of trouble to I'm not sure who did it hillbilly or world traveler.http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2180-Cartagena-Lists

Mojo Bandit
08-03-21, 07:52
Thanks Nypher, great heads up information. I was hoping my monger brothers would have contacts they have used that are apartment owners that they would supply me with, but as of today not a one. The OZ I would take but it is sold out for my dates. I don't mind the cab rides back and forth or the cost if I could find something in Boca Grande or EL Laguito no luck yet. I think I will just go back in my bag and pull out a little leverage. Since the agency is sending me emails on places to book as a urgency I have advised them to book it only if my (Fake) co-worker can get in with a late arrival (midnight) without a name until they arrive because I don't know who the firm will be sending. Talked to one apartment manager she said " Okay but only need ID to check in". I think I will try this angel and just hope the chica have her ID since we booked for 2 and already paid for 2. Hope to still hear from brother monger with apartment owners contact information. Thanks Nypher I will avoid the exist from clock tower at all cost.Here is where to find the map that Kafka refers to.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2180-Cartagena-Lists

Another resource which you should review thoroughly is the "Cartagena Hotels and Rental Apartments" and even if you need to go back a ways, years, do not assume everything changes, not everything does. There is a lot of good info if you study
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2483-Cartagena-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments

Xpartan
08-03-21, 08:37
- Overpaying is ok for you and her. As I said, I have a soft spot for girls that do everything I say. It is fucking ridiculous when people (here and other threads) say that the girls will respect you more if you pay the local price. Some idiot in the Brazilian thread said that the girl will scoff at you in the room if buy a $10 lady's drink. Ridiculous! How would anyone know! Yes, many girls will talk shit about nerds, nice guys, big spenders. But those same girls will talk shit about the cheap charlies, when those people are not in the room. Absolutely ridiculous if people think that there are advantages in paying the local price instead of a little extra. The real question is, is there an advantage in overpaying. That is the real question! There might be, but it would depend on the girl. For many girls, overpaying probably will not make a difference. (Another thread that should be started). I like to research, find the local price, and then maybe depending on the circumstances, overpay by a little.Not clear who you're ranting against. So don't be a cheap Charlie, what's the problem? If a girl does everything you tell her, why not give her a little tip? I prefer rewarding a good performance with a small gift, but whatever.

I think what people are telling you is don't throw your money around, and for a good reason. It's not going to buy you love or respect, only ridicule. And in Colombia might very well put a target on your back.

GreenBud
08-03-21, 09:32
I think what people are telling you is don't throw your money around, and for a good reason. It's not going to buy you love or respect, only ridicule.I would respectfully disagree. I think that you can buy love and respect. Of course, I have no proof. Just like you can "buy" love from your nieces / nephews with gifts, I think you can buy affection from a working girl. Is it real? After awhile, maybe. Some girls will ridicule you, but many girls will not. Obviously, no one knows for sure.

Are there advantages in overpaying? Maybe for some girls. I've had a regular walk across the street to see me (which I don't like). I've had girls tell the cleaner to not knock early. Also, after the first knock, some girls will continue until the 2nd knock. The 3rd knock is when they hustle out the door. Sometimes the girls will open up their menu. Some girls allow pictures. Was it because I overpaid. I don't know. Very hard, almost impossible, to do a double blind test.

Also, I am not ranting against the cheap charlies. I have respect for them. Nothing wrong against paying the market price. I respect Mr. E for paying the local price, although he doesn't mention the fine print all the time. I'm all for saving money. But I just think it's funny when people say that the girls will think you're an idiot if you overpay. IMO, the extra money buys a little more affection from some of the girls. AND it makes me happy.


And in Colombia might very well put a target on your back.I don't go crazy with my money. I overpay slightly. I pay 100 K per hour instead of 70 or 80 K in Santa Fe. Will that put a target on my back.

Dublin12
08-03-21, 10:44
- I understand your point of view. I was thinking the same thing, except I was thinking of hiring a girl from Bogota's Santa Fe, and taking her to Santa Marta for 1 or 2 weeks. IMO, Bogota is so much better than Medellin and Cucuta, mainly because of the size of Santa Fe. So much larger, so much selection available. Only thing is if you get a girl from Facebook. It seems that is Medellin scene.

- For variety, I would change the 3rd girl (who I will try to find in Santa Marta) in a threesome. There are numerous advantages of bringing in a known performer. You will have a guarantee GFE with at least 1 girl. It is always hit and miss getting a new girl. Also, even if the hotel is absolutely non guest friendly, you should be able to bring that girl with you IF you check in with her during your initial check-in. Assuming it will be the same for the Airbnb if you add her name when you register.

- I was thinking how much to offer. I'm just guessing, but in 2019 I was talking to a regular. She is decent, above average. On a long day of working, she would at least make 200 K. On a good day, she said she made between 300-400 K. So I'm guessing she normally makes between 200-300 K per day. I was thinking you have to consider what she makes in a day. I was thinking of offering her 300 K per day. Maybe I should save some money and offer her 250 K per day. I wouldn't give her 100 K in gifts everyday, but I would buy her 2 outfits for Bogota and 2 outfits for Santa Marta. I wouldn't want her to dress like a puta when I take her to restaurants and clubs. And then I probably will give her a tip at the end. I have a soft spot for girls who suck my dick.

- People are saying you are overpaying because you are not getting the 2 discounts that are potentially available. The long term discount for 28 days, and the discount many girls will accept being wined and dined at a nice resort. But 1 advantage of paying her full wage everyday is that you can tell her to leave anytime. I would offer her the full wage at 300 K per day for however long I want to keep her. You should always negotiate everything in advance.

- Overpaying is ok for you and her. As I said, I have a soft spot for girls that do everything I say. It is fucking ridiculous when people (here and other threads) say that the girls will respect you more if you pay the local price. Some idiot in the Brazilian thread said that the girl will scoff at you in the room if buy a $10 lady's drink. Ridiculous! How would anyone know! Yes, many girls will talk shit about nerds, nice guys, big spenders. But those same girls will talk shit about the cheap charlies, when those people are not in the room. Absolutely ridiculous if people think that there are advantages in paying the local price instead of a little extra. The real question is, is there an advantage in overpaying. That is the real question! There might be, but it would depend on the girl. For many girls, overpaying probably will not make a difference. (Another thread that should be started). I like to research, find the local price, and then maybe depending on the circumstances, overpay by a little.

- I'm surprised no one brought up the problem you might have if you hire a Venezuelan. Will the airlines and hotel accept her ID? Also, there are ones with papers and without. Will the airlines and hotels accept the Venezuelan without official papers. Is Venezuelan ID sufficient?

- If you have the girl's ID, that should offer some protection of getting robbed.In case you are unaware the rest of the "great minds", but fools seldom differ.

Your first two paragraphs reflect much of my thinking and potential planning. I've already checked with Airbnb hosts, and I've had a couple of replies about potentially needing to change girls. One said "OK but you must take responsibility for any guests". The other, "As long as they are of age". Regarding Cucuta, that was perhaps more a whimsical thought. Of course that undermines the false claim by Mr Knows Everything, that I was fixated on Colombians.

But it's good to see someone who doesn't think that giving the girl a good time, is among the mortal sins of mongering. Regarding the price itself, I was not locked into 250 k a day, but in all the circumstances, it seemed a reasonable offer. I'm not sure many girls are likely to earn that amount in that time, notwithstanding the comfort of job security for that period, though I understand that latter consideration doesn't count for much in Colombia. I'd be very surprised if someone doesn't tell you that at 300 k, your overpaying, though you won't hear that from me. It's your money. You spend it how you want. As far as "paying local prices" is concerned, and what the girls may say about you, I can't claim to have an insight into the Colombian mind, but it occurs to me, that you would be right about their disdain for "cheap charlies". The idea that they will respect someone more because they don't overpay seems dubious at best. After all, are they really so opposed to maximising their earnings? Regarding shopping trips, I wonder if you have the same view as me? I consider I have a good eye for dressing a girl, so I choose the outer garments and they definitely look good without looking trashy or sluttish.

I had thought about ID issues, particularly with regard to airlines, and I would have investigates this further before even trying that plan, especially as there appears to be no universal standard as to what is acceptable for boarding an aircraft.

Dublin12
08-03-21, 12:19
Whois is for domain name, not email address.You are almost certainly right, but being an old git myself, I do have problems recalling the correct cyberlinguistics.

Kafka
08-03-21, 19:52
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2180-Cartagena-ListsI wish there was a pin this up because everybody keeps asking the same questions. Anyway I'm back there on the 18th or so. I know I'm a glutton for punishment but this time I'm going to save my leche only the hottest.

Nypher
08-03-21, 20:41
I wish there was a pin this up because everybody keeps asking the same questions. Anyway I'm back there on the 18th or so. I know I'm a glutton for punishment but this time I'm going to save my leche only the hottest.I'll be there that week as well with a few friends. We might pass each other while mongering inside the walls jajaja.

Kc Talent
08-04-21, 03:42
Here is where to find the map that Kafka refers to.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2180-Cartagena-Lists

Another resource which you should review thoroughly is the "Cartagena Hotels and Rental Apartments" and even if you need to go back a ways, years, do not assume everything changes, not everything does. There is a lot of good info if you study
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2483-Cartagena-Hotels-and-Rental-ApartmentsThanks both Mojo Bandit and Kafka again really great information, so went to work and found lots of great stuff. I been in contact with 2 apartment owners with good-looking apartments near Hollywood beach. I just asked them," can I have 2 girls as over-night guest, or just 1", I will know more once they confirm my questions. I also made a 1 day booking at OZ for more time to find the apartment I want.

Now I just need to worry about the airline not getting cancel which have been the issue this week. If good will be in Cartagena on the 10th of August.

TheCritic
08-04-21, 06:38
So, I made my first visit to Cartegena along with a good friend a few weeks back in mid July. We both had the time of our lives. My formula is this: food, culture, & excursions / adventure by day. Debauchery by night. I'm going to skip the day part.

Night 1 wound up meeting this young caramel twenty something beauty at club space, she was a solid 9 out of 10. We negotiated things in the club and went back to the apartment for an hour. It was very transactional. If it wasn't for the fact she was so hot it would have been a slight disappointment. I went to go rub and suck on her breasts and she stopped me and warned me she was lactating. Even if I was into that, I don't think she would have entertained the idea.

Night 2 This blonde who didn't seem like a full pro kinda latched onto me inside Delirium and stared dancing and grinding etc. This place was packed on a Thursday night. Probably a 20 to 1 ratio of women to men. Anyway, my friend sealed a deal for a threesome with a hot Latina and young ebony hottie. Both 20 somethings. My blonde seemed like late 20's early 30's and frankly slightly on chubby / thick side. She appealed to me because she didn't seem like a pro. I invited her back to the apartment and she agreed, I asked her what she wanted and she said something to the effect of she didn't want to mess it up with money. So we get back to the place and take care of business. My guy wraps up in an hour or so, sees his girls out and sticks his head in my door to check on me while the blonde is riding me reverse cowgirl. I invited him to join the fun and she didn't object. I enjoyed myself, my guy enjoyed himself and based on the number of times she squirted and screamed, I'd say she enjoyed herself too! When it was all said and done we both made a donation that she accepted but never asked for and she went on her merry way. It was completely GFE up until my buddy joined in, then it was no holds barred PSE.

Night 3: wound up in Dolce Vita. There were 4 of us male "tourists" and probably about 40+ women. They were all attractive by someone's standards but mostly not my type. They were seemed mostly petite. We were drinking and talking amongst ourselves, none of the women approached our hounded us. They just waited for us to make the move. Until one of the other guys taps me on the shoulder and says hey, she wants to talk to you. I look up and there is this 5'10" gorgeous chocolate queen at the bar smiling at me. Think, Vivica Foxx.

Xpartan
08-04-21, 06:50
I don't go crazy with my money. I overpay slightly. I pay 100 K per hour instead of 70 or 80 K in Santa Fe. Will that put a target on my back.Gee that's what you call overpaying? I thought you're dropping benjamins left and right, LOL.

Well, you've got my blessing (not that you need it, LOL).

Peace.

TheCritic
08-04-21, 17:12
So, I made my first visit to Cartegena along with a good friend a few weeks back in mid July. We both had the time of our lives. My formula is this: food, culture, & excursions / adventure by day. Debauchery by night. I'm going to skip the day part.

Night 1 wound up meeting this young caramel twenty something beauty at club space, she was a solid 9 out of 10. We negotiated things in the club and went back to the apartment for an hour. It was very transactional. If it wasn't for the fact she was so hot it would have been a slight disappointment. I went to go rub and suck on her breasts and she stopped me and warned me she was lactating. Even if I was into that, I don't think she would have entertained the idea.

Night 2 This blonde who didn't seem like a full pro kinda latched onto me inside Delirium and stared dancing and grinding etc. This place was packed on a Thursday night. Probably a 20 to 1 ratio of women to men. Anyway, my friend sealed a deal for a threesome with a hot Latina and young ebony hottie. Both 20 somethings. My blonde seemed like late 20's early 30's and frankly slightly on chubby / thick side. She appealed to me because she didn't seem like a pro. I invited her back to the apartment and she agreed, I asked her what she wanted and she said something to the effect of she didn't want to mess it up with money. So we get back to the place and take care of business. My guy wraps up in an hour or so, sees his girls out and sticks his head in my door to check on me while the blonde is riding me reverse cowgirl. I invited him to join the fun and she didn't object. I enjoyed myself, my guy enjoyed himself and based on the number of times she squirted and screamed, I'd say she enjoyed herself too! When it was all said and done we both made a donation that she accepted but never asked for and she went on her merry way. It was completely GFE up until my buddy joined in, then it was no holds barred PSE.So it seems that I followed the advice in the FAQ and copied and pasted my long ass post to notepad to avoid losing it if I got times out but didn't get the whole thing and I did actually get timed out. So, let me know if there is interest in hearing the "rest of the story" and I'll make time to recreate.

Nypher
08-04-21, 19:25
............................She appealed to me because she didn't seem like a pro. I invited her back to the apartment and she agreed, I asked her what she wanted and she said something to the effect of she didn't want to mess it up with money. So we get back to the place and take care of business. My guy wraps up in an hour or so, sees his girls out and sticks his head in my door to check on me while the blonde is riding me reverse cowgirl. I invited him to join the fun and she didn't object. I enjoyed myself, my guy enjoyed himself and based on the number of times she squirted and screamed, I'd say she enjoyed herself too! When it was all said and done we both made a donation that she accepted but never asked for and she went on her merry way. Your first trip and you invited a brand new chica from Delirium of all places, back to your apartment without discussing prices. Then proceed to add another cock that just finished with 2 other girls to which she had zero objections and she was happy with whatever you and your friend gave her? You are lucky that didn't go wrong.

How much exactly was the donation? Also you might want to get tested if she's letting random gringos hit raw and having threesomes without talking money first.

AmorPorFavor
08-04-21, 19:48
So it seems that I followed the advice in the FAQ and copied and pasted my long ass post to notepad to avoid losing it if I got times out but didn't get the whole thing and I did actually get timed out. So, let me know if there is interest in hearing the "rest of the story" and I'll make time to recreate.I'm interested. Also what is the current mask / curfew situation? Can you briefly describe your excursions? They are a big part of the fun in Cartagena for me, especially with a hot chica in toe. I will be back there this Nov or Dec.

ElPapi
08-04-21, 21:36
So, I made my first visit to Cartegena along with a good friend a few weeks back in mid July. We both had the time of our lives. My formula is this: food, culture, & excursions / adventure by day. Debauchery by night. I'm going to skip the day part.

Night 1 wound up meeting this young caramel twenty something beauty at club space, she was a solid 9 out of 10. We negotiated things in the club and went back to the apartment for an hour. It was very transactional. If it wasn't for the fact she was so hot it would have been a slight disappointment. I went to go rub and suck on her breasts and she stopped me and warned me she was lactating. Even if I was into that, I don't think she would have entertained the idea.

Night 2 This blonde who didn't seem like a full pro kinda latched onto me inside Delirium and stared dancing and grinding etc. This place was packed on a Thursday night. Probably a 20 to 1 ratio of women to men. Anyway, my friend sealed a deal for a threesome with a hot Latina and young ebony hottie. Both 20 somethings. My blonde seemed like late 20's early 30's and frankly slightly on chubby / thick side. She appealed to me because she didn't seem like a pro. I invited her back to the apartment and she agreed, I asked her what she wanted and she said something to the effect of she didn't want to mess it up with money. So we get back to the place and take care of business. My guy wraps up in an hour or so, sees his girls out and sticks his head in my door to check on me while the blonde is riding me reverse cowgirl. I invited him to join the fun and she didn't object. I enjoyed myself, my guy enjoyed himself and based on the number of times she squirted and screamed, I'd say she enjoyed herself too! When it was all said and done we both made a donation that she accepted but never asked for and she went on her merry way. It was completely GFE up until my buddy joined in, then it was no holds barred PSE.Great report. Which apartment you stayed. Is it in centro or Bocagrande.

Jrealyo
08-04-21, 22:48
Interested! Can you put prices too?


So it seems that I followed the advice in the FAQ and copied and pasted my long ass post to notepad to avoid losing it if I got times out but didn't get the whole thing and I did actually get timed out. So, let me know if there is interest in hearing the "rest of the story" and I'll make time to recreate.

BlackCrystal
08-05-21, 16:09
Okay so me and a couple of friends will be going to Cartagena next week Friday-Sunday. I read through these posts and know where to find chicas at and also for how much. The issue I am having is where do you guys say? I know how the city is broken down between San Diego, Centro, Bocagrande, etc. The question I have is can I find an airbnb that is located in Bocagrande that is guest friendly. It seems like every Airbnb does not allow guest down there. I was deciding on staying in Centro and San Diego near the action but also want to be somewhat of a tourist and get a nice 13th floor penthouse with a pool and view of the ocean. LOL guess you can not have both. So I need some advice.

1. even though they say guest are not allowed can I use pay the security guard to allow us to bring chicas up.

2. should I just stay in Centro near the action? A hotel or Airbnb y'all recommend?

3. Just get short time hotels (never tried this). How was it?

Kafka
08-05-21, 18:32
How about this If you too lazy to actually read through the thread even from yesterday why should we bother answering any of your questions.? This isn't a tourist agency we're here to share information and the things that you're asking about have been gone over again and again and again...... Look at the map the Chica friendly places are listed there..... Unfortunately it's not as easy as it wants was to find someplace that will allow you to bring these girls in but trust me once you pick the girls you'll find a place for you to fuck If you can't or don't want to go back to your own place..... If you want to stay someplace nice this is really the best option. Otherwise just keep in mind the beach is not a strip club go have fun and just to respect the fact that You're not a VIP cuz you buy a beach chair for 5 bucks and buy a girl a drink. Lol


Okay so me and a couple of friends will be going to Cartagena next week Friday-Sunday. I read through these posts and know where to find chicas at and also for how much. The issue I am having is where do you guys say? I know how the city is broken down between San Diego, Centro, Bocagrande, etc. The question I have is can I find an airbnb that is located in Bocagrande that is guest friendly. It seems like every Airbnb does not allow guest down there. I was deciding on staying in Centro and San Diego near the action but also want to be somewhat of a tourist and get a nice 13th floor penthouse with a pool and view of the ocean. LOL guess you can not have both. So I need some advice.

1. even though they say guest are not allowed can I use pay the security guard to allow us to bring chicas up.

2. should I just stay in Centro near the action? A hotel or Airbnb y'all recommend?

3. Just get short time hotels (never tried this). How was it?

Nypher
08-05-21, 19:36
Okay so me and a couple of friends will be going to Cartagena next week Friday-Sunday. I read through these posts and know where to find chicas at and also for how much. The issue I am having is where do you guys say? I know how the city is broken down between San Diego, Centro, Bocagrande, etc. The question I have is can I find an airbnb that is located in Bocagrande that is guest friendly. It seems like every Airbnb does not allow guest down there. I was deciding on staying in Centro and San Diego near the action but also want to be somewhat of a tourist and get a nice 13th floor penthouse with a pool and view of the ocean. LOL guess you can not have both. So I need some advice.

1. even though they say guest are not allowed can I use pay the security guard to allow us to bring chicas up.

2. should I just stay in Centro near the action? A hotel or Airbnb y'all recommend?

3. Just get short time hotels (never tried this). How was it?You really have the expectation to find a guest friendly apartment that will be available in 1 week? Unless someone canceled, Doubt it. Every monger already booked their guest friendly places way in advance, they don't wait 1 week out to make the most critical decision that will effect their stay.

1. Yes you can sometimes pay security to let the girl up but then they get greedy and will want $XX per chica you bring in, that won't be fun after the third chica.

2. Hotels are an option you can try but I don't know what their updated guest policy are due to COVID. Apartments in Centro can be a hit or miss when it comes to hot water and many of them do not allow guests, some even go as far as putting in the house rules they do not rent to men.

3. Check the map or when you pick up the chica, ask her and she will tell you. I've never done it because I don't like to be on a time limit and I like to move freely.

Kc Talent
08-06-21, 00:59
How about this If you too lazy to actually read through the thread even from yesterday why should we bother answering any of your questions.? This isn't a tourist agency we're here to share information and the things that you're asking about have been gone over again and again and again...... Look at the map the Chica friendly places are listed there..... Unfortunately it's not as easy as it wants was to find someplace that will allow you to bring these girls in but trust me once you pick the girls you'll find a place for you to fuck If you can't or don't want to go back to your own place..... If you want to stay someplace nice this is really the best option. Otherwise just keep in mind the beach is not a strip club go have fun and just to respect the fact that You're not a VIP cuz you buy a beach chair for 5 bucks and buy a girl a drink. LolHe is so right. I had the same issue but all resolve just do what they're telling you and yes you need to read the forum here and in the Cartagena Hotel and Apartment section.

I sent messages to Apartments and Airbnb's asking if guest friendly answers yes they allowed guest that signed in with you. I was told by a good forum member that I was the guest and to ask if visitors are allowed and yes that worked better was told only up to a time but never over night, some said sure with prior arraignment as a visitor of a guest and with restrictions. Many said hell no chica allowed. I'm not new as a monger but still when in a new location I listen to others and RTFF and learn which makes for a greater plan trip. I have a nice hotel for 3 days, girl visitors over night approved and a Airbnb for 3 days also girl friendly with over nights visitors. RTFF send some messages and make some calls.

WashingtonWiz
08-06-21, 08:42
I know my board cred isn't as strong here, but if you're ever in DC I can be of big help.

Always wondered why I couldn't link accounts.


He is so right. I had the same issue but all resolve just do what they're telling you and yes you need to read the forum here and in the Cartagena Hotel and Apartment section.

I sent messages to Apartments and Airbnb's asking if guest friendly answers yes they allowed guest that signed in with you. I was told by a good forum member that I was the guest and to ask if visitors are allowed and yes that worked better was told only up to a time but never over night, some said sure with prior arraignment as a visitor of a guest and with restrictions. Many said hell no chica allowed. I'm not new as a monger but still when in a new location I listen to others and RTFF and learn which makes for a greater plan trip. I have a nice hotel for 3 days, girl visitors over night approved and a Airbnb for 3 days also girl friendly with over nights visitors. RTFF send some messages and make some calls.

Piupiu
08-06-21, 11:29
If they have their Instagram profile listed, or they have their whatsapp number in their profile, or you see allot of bikini pics, or sexual poses, or open mouth with tongue sticking out looking like they are ready to catch the leche, or they have pics of selfies in a mirror where you can see the rear of the phone and in the rear of the phone is American currency, then you know what's up and you can begin with the usual Hola, Como estas? When they reply its usually "bien why tu" and you can follow back with "Muy bien" then ask "Prepargo?" or "Tu cobras?" and they usually come back with "Si" or "Obvio" if by chance you get a "no" then immediately unmatch. If you get a "Si" you next step is to take the conversation outside of tinder and continue it on whatsapp or instagram where you can discuss prices and services. Once you start the conversation outside of Tinder, go back and unmatch them because they can be vindictive and report you, once you get too many reports, they will ban you. I've been there, had to make a whole new Facebook with fake name and a new phone number just to use Tinder again.

You are however beginning talks way too early. Once they find out when you are coming they will most likely say they will wait for you, or see you when you get here, and then they will stop responding to you until you actually get there. I usually start swiping a few days before my arrival date and line them up.Awesome! Many thanks for your efforts, will try it this this way.

Kc Talent
08-06-21, 17:32
I know my board cred isn't as strong here, but if you're ever in DC I can be of big help.

Always wondered why I couldn't link accounts.Go to the web-site for Airbnb, see if you can get luckily by sending out lots of messages to the apartment owners be up front tell them you want to be able to have visitors over night and you are will to pay a fee. They reply fast. Next, see what hotel that are listed on the map found on this forum that are open for your dates and girl friendly in hopes you find one that has cancelations. Read the forum hotel and apartment rental section. Go on line to Booking.com, Vrbo, Home to go. Read the forum and look for Juan's contact information he has nice apartments all over. Good luck.

Kafka
08-06-21, 17:58
Absolutely correct I should have clarified that it's not a guest policy it's a "visitor " policy, as far as Airbnb goes you can almost always find this under "house rules". The language will be something like only registered guests allowed or in some cases only "previously registered guests'
Believe it or not most of the people who operate these airbnbs don't want to have their time wasted and they are aware of the situations involving chicas!

It's not ruled out then then message and ask if guests are allowed and add that you're not going to have large parties. The biggest concern really is groups of dudes who bring girls in for large parties. Most of the no visitor policies as a result of the few people who just can't tone it down.


He is so right. I had the same issue but all resolve just do what they're telling you and yes you need to read the forum here and in the Cartagena Hotel and Apartment section.

I sent messages to Apartments and Airbnb's asking if guest friendly answers yes they allowed guest that signed in with you. I was told by a good forum member that I was the guest and to ask if visitors are allowed and yes that worked better was told only up to a time but never over night, some said sure with prior arraignment as a visitor of a guest and with restrictions. Many said hell no chica allowed. I'm not new as a monger but still when in a new location I listen to others and RTFF and learn which makes for a greater plan trip. I have a nice hotel for 3 days, girl visitors over night approved and a Airbnb for 3 days also girl friendly with over nights visitors. RTFF send some messages and make some calls.

Xpartan
08-07-21, 00:36
I know my board cred isn't as strong here, but if you're ever in DC I can be of big help.

Always wondered why I couldn't link accounts.I can't post his contact info here, but do the search in this or Hotels and Apartments thread, and you'll find Juan who rents apartments in Laquito and Centro. His building in Laquito is called Marinero or Marin. Many members including me highly recommend this guy, he speaks English and is super reliable.

Nypher
08-07-21, 02:19
Absolutely correct I should have clarified that it's not a guest policy it's a "visitor " policy, as far as Airbnb goes you can almost always find this under "house rules". The language will be something like only registered guests allowed or in some cases only "previously registered guests'
Believe it or not most of the people who operate these airbnbs don't want to have their time wasted and they are aware of the situations involving chicas!

It's not ruled out then then message and ask if guests are allowed and add that you're not going to have large parties. The biggest concern really is groups of dudes who bring girls in for large parties. Most of the no visitor policies as a result of the few people who just can't tone it down.To add to this. Do not! I repeat do not exceed the limit of the apartment that is listed. For instance if the limit of the apartment is 6 individuals and 3 mongers rents it, you can only have 1 chica each simultaneously. If a monger decides to have trio bringing the head count to 7 total and the host find out and can prove it they can cancel your reservation and kick you out with no refund because the rules were violated. Pay attention to those rules. Do not get cops involved on the property for loud noises after hours, they can also cancel your reservation due to that.

Sometimes you can talk your way out of it but expect to pay on the spot extra money to the host.

Dublin12
08-07-21, 07:21
I know my board cred isn't as strong here, but if you're ever in DC I can be of big help.

Always wondered why I couldn't link accounts.I had a couple of options available on Airbnb for an upcoming trip which I've since postponed. Both are in Getsemenai.

https://www.airbnb.ie/rooms/39086807?adults=2&children=0&infants=0&check_in=2021-08-18&check_out=2021-09-15&source_impression_id=p3_1628316756_CrOHRdhQranaRXSC

https://www.airbnb.ie/rooms/11881937?adults=2&check_in=2021-08-18&check_out=2021-09-15&source_impression_id=p3_1628316916_xIWyySkwK7YKuolH&guests=1

You will need to write to the hosts for confirmation, but make sure that they are aware that you will not be having wild parties, accept full responsibility for your guests, and that you will be bringing different girls with you.

Mojo Bandit
08-07-21, 12:47
I had a couple of options available on Airbnb for an upcoming trip which I've since postponed. Both are in Getsemenai.

https://www.airbnb.ie/rooms/39086807?adults=2&children=0&infants=0&check_in=2021-08-18&check_out=2021-09-15&source_impression_id=p3_1628316756_CrOHRdhQranaRXSC

https://www.airbnb.ie/rooms/11881937?adults=2&check_in=2021-08-18&check_out=2021-09-15&source_impression_id=p3_1628316916_xIWyySkwK7YKuolH&guests=1

You will need to write to the hosts for confirmation, but make sure that they are aware that you will not be having wild parties, accept full responsibility for your guests, and that you will be bringing different girls with you.It is very helpful for everyone to know about more visitor friendly places to stay but I am going to copy your post over to the "Cartagena Hotels and Rental Apartments" thread.

Mojo Bandit
08-07-21, 12:49
Has anyone else had any problems with the immigration form online?, I have read two reports of persons having issues

Dublin12
08-07-21, 19:14
It is very helpful for everyone to know about more visitor friendly places to stay but I am going to copy your post over to the "Cartagena Hotels and Rental Apartments" thread.Good Idea. I wasn't aware of that thread.

UniversalX
08-08-21, 02:42
To add to this. Do not! I repeat do not exceed the limit of the apartment that is listed. For instance if the limit of the apartment is 6 individuals and 3 mongers rents it, you can only have 1 chica each simultaneously. If a monger decides to have trio bringing the head count to 7 total and the host find out and can prove it they can cancel your reservation and kick you out with no refund because the rules were violated. Pay attention to those rules. Do not get cops involved on the property for loud noises after hours, they can also cancel your reservation due to that.

Sometimes you can talk your way out of it but expect to pay on the spot extra money to the host.Everyone should take note of this excellent advice especially newbies!!

If you have an issue with the rules ask for clarification just don't willfully violate them expecting no consequences. Don't ruin your vacation.

Elvis 2008
08-08-21, 12:30
My gal is a costena and will be checking out the city today. I know it is her home base but anyone have any suggestions for good couple's activities?

I flew American from Miami here, really cheap flight like under $200 and I bought it last minute because Spirit cancelled my flight to Fort Lauderdale. Airplane had full sockets so you could plug in a laptop or phone which was nice. The last minute flight to Miami was more than the one to Cartagena. Spirit is giving refunds for the cancelled flight and added a $50 voucher as well.

Migracion app is now asking for vaccine status. They do not require proof of anything. Colombia is just asking for it. I think if you say no, you can still come, for now. I imagine this will change soon.

I am at the Hyatt, real nice place. I tried this beef called something like Bistec Cartagena. It was really good. It had a nice and different local sauce on the beef. The Mrs. Had ceviche. Then had a desert called the Costeno. It is like a coffee ice cream with coconut style cakes, very good as well. Price was crazy as expected in a hotel. Waiter was thrilled at 15% tip.

I might persuade the Mrs. To check out one of the clubs and hope to give you guys an update on the Clock Tower scene.

Jelly Donut
08-09-21, 00:16
My gal is a costena There are a few good restaurants with top floor vistas. Cafe del Mar is the most obvious and busy. The Townhouse is a little out of the way, but it's interesting, although often busy. The top floor of San Pedro Cafe / Mirador has good food and less people than you'll find on other roof top venues. Quiebra Canto is a good place to dance or hangout; good view back to the clock tower, great for people watching, when they have live music it fills up; the other Salsa venues down Calle 30 can be a lot of fun. With shopping. Centro Comercial La Serrezuela is interesting and pretty new, I imagine she might like checking it out. Getsemani has a bohemian vibe and walking there at night has some pulse to it. The Arab restaurant in Bocogrande sometimes surprises costenas.

Nypher
08-09-21, 01:37
Has anyone else had any problems with the immigration form online?, I have read two reports of persons having issuesI managed to fill mine out with with little to no issues. It was my first time using the site as last time I filled out the physical paper before going through security.

Three things that sucked:

1: Even though I selected English, and all the questions were converted to English, all the multiple choice answers were still in Spanish. So things like selecting my country of birth I had to figure out the Spanish name for that.

2. I could not copy and paste, so entering information such as the place where ill be staying was a pain in the ass to manually type out the entire address.

3. At the end where they provide the CAPTCHA screen, there was no indication where to enter the phrase even though it was staring me directly in my face jajajaja. For anyone who had that face_palm moment like I did, the box is directly below the phrase.

Yusk1984
08-09-21, 03:32
Migracion app is now asking for vaccine status. They do not require proof of anything. Colombia is just asking for it. I think if you say no, you can still come, for now. I imagine this will change soon.

Nice review. Is Colombia asking for a negative Covid test 3 days before getting into the country?

Thanks.

Nypher
08-09-21, 04:47
Migracion app is now asking for vaccine status. They do not require proof of anything. Colombia is just asking for it. I think if you say no, you can still come, for now. I imagine this will change soon.

Nice review. Is Colombia asking for a negative Covid test 3 days before getting into the country?

Thanks.Since the members of the forum does not know your origin of departure no one can give you solid information. You best bet is to check Colombia's Embassy site for up to date COVID travel info or don't travel from India.

Side note, if I recall, Colombia has never asked for a negative Covid test 3 days before getting into the country, it was 96 hours before they removed it for everyone except India.

https://co.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/

Elvis 2008
08-09-21, 15:21
Has anyone else had any problems with the immigration form online?, I have read two reports of persons having issuesMojo,

I did the survey on my phone before getting on AA flight to CTG. It took 5 or 10 minutes. No issues.

GeneHickman
08-10-21, 07:07
Mojo,

I did the survey on my phone before getting on AA flight to CTG. It took 5 or 10 minutes. No issues.The app is shit, do it on the web browser and it works better. At least that's what happened for me.

Mrai7870
08-11-21, 05:36
Okay so me and a couple of friends will be going to Cartagena next week Friday-Sunday. I read through these posts and know where to find chicas at and also for how much. The issue I am having is where do you guys say? I know how the city is broken down between San Diego, Centro, Bocagrande, etc. The question I have is can I find an airbnb that is located in Bocagrande that is guest friendly. It seems like every Airbnb does not allow guest down there. I was deciding on staying in Centro and San Diego near the action but also want to be somewhat of a tourist and get a nice 13th floor penthouse with a pool and view of the ocean. LOL guess you can not have both. So I need some advice.

1. even though they say guest are not allowed can I use pay the security guard to allow us to bring chicas up.

2. should I just stay in Centro near the action? A hotel or Airbnb y'all recommend?

3. Just get short time hotels (never tried this). How was it?I had this same problem in 2019 and had this question on here so I'm going to help you out. We had 6 guys on bachelors trip and stayed 3 nights in old town and 3 in Boca. Trust me skip Boca. The beach is no better than any long island or Jersey beach. I went to that beach for 30 minutes during the whole trip. Its better to book a trip to Rosario islands or go to the nice beach out of town.

Here is the place we stayed at last time.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/13237986?source_impression_id=p3_1628656189_p7Q70u1PabW%2Bl0fb&guests=1&adults=1

The host is a super chill lady that speaks perfect English. You can bring one guest per person. You can look at her other properties and it should be the same. Best thing to do is make friends with the security guy as soon as possible. If you can make him a part of your group your life will be much easier.

This is another place that we are going to next month and I talked to the guy in charge already and he assured me that there will be no problem bringing guests. Cool dude too so you can be frank with him.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/48712341?source_impression_id=p3_1628656292_g9Qgs23F0k2uGVES&guests=1&adults=1

Nypher
08-11-21, 18:44
My third day here. Things are looking better than when I was here earlier in the year. Last night I did notice allot of police standing around at the clocktower and low volume of chicas there.

It appears Isis opened back up as when I was leaving Space their doors were open.

Delirium was a total reverse on a Tuesday night. Walked in, about 50 chicas sitting down and 5 gringos. Great time to get them. No chance ill be doing that on a Thursday night.

Dolce was packed with girls. Ratio of 3 to 1. Shoutout to the guy in the blue shorts sitting at the bar drinking the beer wrapped in the napkin. This man had the focus of a cat stalking its prey. Hunters eye. If your on here maybe we can link up.

Space was pretty much dead until 11 pm. I managed to get a great Venezuelan out of there. And called it a night.

The humidity here is something else. By the time I walk three blocks in the outside in the shade all my clothes are wet.

Purple Porkchop
08-11-21, 23:56
Happened across a YOUTUBE video about MANSIONS (brothels?) in CTG. The person doing the video always called them mansions and not brothels. No cameras were allowed inside.

Once you arrived you took a seat and ladies would be shown one at a time. You would pick one and then have your way. He stated that he asked a taxi driver to take him.

Anyone have any more info? I went back several months on the thread and could find nothing.

Be arriving around Sept 11.

Thanks in advance.

P Chop.

Kafka
08-12-21, 00:34
What beach on Long Island has girls with the kind of asses they have in Cartagena? And ones that you can hire?


I had this same problem in 2019 and had this question on here so I'm going to help you out. We had 6 guys on bachelors trip and stayed 3 nights in old town and 3 in Boca. Trust me skip Boca. The beach is no better than any long island or Jersey beach. I went to that beach for 30 minutes during the whole trip. Its better to book a trip to Rosario islands or go to the nice beach out of town.

Here is the place we stayed at last time.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/13237986?source_impression_id=p3_1628656189_p7Q70u1PabW%2Bl0fb&guests=1&adults=1

The host is a super chill lady that speaks perfect English. You can bring one guest per person. You can look at her other properties and it should be the same. Best thing to do is make friends with the security guy as soon as possible. If you can make him a part of your group your life will be much easier.

This is another place that we are going to next month and I talked to the guy in charge already and he assured me that there will be no problem bringing guests. Cool dude too so you can be frank with him.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/48712341?source_impression_id=p3_1628656292_g9Qgs23F0k2uGVES&guests=1&adults=1

Mrai7870
08-12-21, 03:19
What beach on Long Island has girls with the kind of asses they have in Cartagena? And ones that you can hire?You can't hire but any summer weekend in jones or Robert moses will have a 9 or 10 every few meters. Every flavor too.

Honestly wasn't really into the beach girls. Bodies were nice but faces were meh. For me they were 6 or 7 at best. Will see soon if things have changed.

Yusk1984
08-12-21, 04:25
Since the members of the forum does not know your origin of departure no one can give you solid information. You best bet is to check Colombia's Embassy site for up to date COVID travel info or don't travel from India.

Side note, if I recall, Colombia has never asked for a negative Covid test 3 days before getting into the country, it was 96 hours before they removed it for everyone except India.

https://co.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/Thanks, man! I did more research they are not asking from negative covid test.

Nypher
08-12-21, 08:20
What beach on Long Island has girls with the kind of asses they have in Cartagena? And ones that you can hire?They have a point. The beach is no better than the Tri State area beaches. It rained today and the sewage system could not drain the water properly so some streets were backed up with water. The sewage smell was so strong I almost started gagging. All that sewage ends up right in the water at Boca Grande Beach which is why I never go into the water, if I'm going to do it then ill take a boat to one of the islands and enjoy crystal clear water.

I stopped going to beaches in NYC due to when I was younger I saw a kid come out of Cony Island beach water with a used condom stuck to his back.

DiverOyster
08-12-21, 19:29
Hello ISG friends, where can you find daytime actions in Cartagena? Can anyone please recommend some casas, or full service massage places with hot chics?

Dublin12
08-12-21, 19:48
I had this same problem in 2019 and had this question on here so I'm going to help you out. We had 6 guys on bachelors trip and stayed 3 nights in old town and 3 in Boca. Trust me skip Boca. The beach is no better than any long island or Jersey beach. I went to that beach for 30 minutes during the whole trip. Its better to book a trip to Rosario islands or go to the nice beach out of town.

Here is the place we stayed at last time.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/13237986?source_impression_id=p3_1628656189_p7Q70u1PabW%2Bl0fb&guests=1&adults=1

The host is a super chill lady that speaks perfect English. You can bring one guest per person. You can look at her other properties and it should be the same. Best thing to do is make friends with the security guy as soon as possible. If you can make him a part of your group your life will be much easier.

This is another place that we are going to next month and I talked to the guy in charge already and he assured me that there will be no problem bringing guests. Cool dude too so you can be frank with him.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/48712341?source_impression_id=p3_1628656292_g9Qgs23F0k2uGVES&guests=1&adults=1Bearing in mind the difficulties in finding guest friendly accommodation in Cartagena, and probably elsewhere in Colombia, might it be an idea to have a section for "Guest Friendly Accommodation in Colombia"?

Dublin12
08-12-21, 19:51
The app is shit, do it on the web browser and it works better. At least that's what happened for me.I've just filled out my MIG form. What happens next. Will I get an acknowledgement or permission to enter etc?

Thanks in advance.

Nypher
08-12-21, 20:39
I've just filled out my MIG form. What happens next. Will I get an acknowledgement or permission to enter etc?

Thanks in advance.Nothing much happens. All you get is an email confirmation that you did it. Then when you travel you have to show them the email confirmation before boarding the plane and when you land you have to show immigration officer the same email. They are only looking at your name and registration number and passport number to make sure every thing match up.

I got stuck at the front of the line the line for 30 minutes because two dumb ass women did not have her shit together and took forever to provide the immigration officer with the address and phone number of the place they were going to stay. The bad shit was there were only 2 booths open for feigners and the women were at both booths and I was waiting behind them to be next. I passed through the officer in 5 minutes. Simple process, handed them my passport with the printed out email of the Check MiG, and a printed out email of the AirBB that had the address and phone number on it. They did everything, asked no questions, stamped the passport then gave me the Bienvidios!

Nypher
08-12-21, 20:54
Bearing in mind the difficulties in finding guest friendly accommodation in Cartagena, and probably elsewhere in Colombia, might it be an idea to have a section for "Guest Friendly Accommodation in Colombia"?I understand the concept but things change all the time. All it takes is that one monger that causes some kind of damage to the apartment or get cops involved then the owner can change the rules in the blink of an eye to say no visitors.

With Condos the owner can say one thing but if the Condos Management says different then the ABB rules goes out the window. Perfect example back in April, a few ABB in ElLaguito was listed a guest friendly, then when mongers show up there is a notice saying due to COVID no visitors allowed.

Dublin12
08-13-21, 14:33
I understand the concept but things change all the time. All it takes is that one monger that causes some kind of damage to the apartment or get cops involved then the owner can change the rules in the blink of an eye to say no visitors.

With Condos the owner can say one thing but if the Condos Management says different then the ABB rules goes out the window. Perfect example back in April, a few ABB in ElLaguito was listed a guest friendly, then when mongers show up there is a notice saying due to COVID no visitors allowed.All good points. However, I would expect persons using it to carry out their own due diligence to check on the current validity of such info. I came across a page on this site from about 2016 with around a dozen links for guest friendly hotels. Ten were dead.

On the other hand, Guest Friendly info in Colombia seems to be precious info.

Dublin12
08-13-21, 14:37
Nothing much happens. All you get is an email confirmation that you did it. Then when you travel you have to show them the email confirmation before boarding the plane and when you land you have to show immigration officer the same email. They are only looking at your name and registration number and passport number to make sure every thing match up.

I got stuck at the front of the line the line for 30 minutes because two dumb ass women did not have her shit together and took forever to provide the immigration officer with the address and phone number of the place they were going to stay. The bad shit was there were only 2 booths open for feigners and the women were at both booths and I was waiting behind them to be next. I passed through the officer in 5 minutes. Simple process, handed them my passport with the printed out email of the Check MiG, and a printed out email of the AirBB that had the address and phone number on it. They did everything, asked no questions, stamped the passport then gave me the Bienvidios!Thanks for that. Any idea of the time frame for the confirmation please? I had several probs with the Mig site, and I have doubts about it.

Mr Enternational
08-13-21, 15:22
Thanks for that. Any idea of the time frame for the confirmation please? I had several probs with the Mig site, and I have doubts about it.It sends the email as soon as you click send. You should also screenshot after you press for cases when you do not get the email. I have never not gotten the email in 2 seconds.

Nypher
08-13-21, 15:27
All good points. However, I would expect persons using it to carry out their own due diligence to check on the current validity of such info. I came across a page on this site from about 2016 with around a dozen links for guest friendly hotels. Ten were dead.

On the other hand, Guest Friendly info in Colombia seems to be precious info.You would be surprised how many travelers read these pages, do not do their due diligence to verify the information. [Deleted by Admin]


Thanks for that. Any idea of the time frame for the confirmation please? I had several probs with the Mig site, and I have doubts about it.I received the email instantly but it ended up in my junk mail folder. You may want to check your Spam or junk mail folder. If not, preregister again and verify your email address is correct.

Nypher
08-13-21, 16:06
It has rained every day since I landed Sunday. The bad part is that the sewage system cannot drain the water fast enough so the smell is terrible when walking around Centro.

Playa Hollywood vendors are 4 X as annoying. After it rained yesterday, my friends and I decided to go to Playa Hollywood as it will be les people and we can enjoy the beach more. A soon as we stepped out of the taxi Jose and his son are ready to pounce. We didn't even get a chance to step in the sand yet. Instantly started showing us tables to sit. I walked by Tony#1 said Hi to him, his English is good and way better than Jose. Seems there is some rivalry between these guys to get gringos chairs and food and drinks.

The vendors set up shop right by the bathrooms and as soon as we passed it they followed behind us all the way to where we were sitting. Highly annoying! We are having drinks, the vendors are bothering us; we are trying to eat, the vendors are bothering us, they will not take no and constantly hover. Ran into a new annoyance. I kept hearing this squeaking sound like a dog with a squeaky toy. I though it was those black birds flying around and was annoyed so I told the vendor to keeps the birds away form me. He replies "no bird. Mime. " To my surprise turn around and lo and behold there is a Mime behind me pantomiming and his voice is the squeaky toy. I had one big WTF moment, and decided to call it a day and the bill came in almost 2 million pesos due to 6 orders of food and drinks I guess.

Woke up this great Friday morning to the smell of my chica cooking breakfast. 5 minutes into eating outside by the pool, a total deluge!! Its been raining for the last hour non stop. A private pool and due to the rain or cloudy skies the sun is hardly out to enjoy it but all the girls I've ran into so far more than make up for it. I'm on chica#9 and I have not once heard the words leche papi or been over charged that much for a gringo. 250 mil for 2 leches during the day and 500 mil -600 mil la noche but most girls don't show up in the discos until close to 11 pm.

As a word of advice to the new mongers. When you are matching on tinder or you get a girls number in the night and want to see her during the day. Ask her how close she lives next to where you are staying due to although they live in Cartagena it can take some of them over an hour to get to Centro or Boca Grande. This gives you the timing if you are rotating chicas on the same day.

Mojo Bandit
08-13-21, 19:52
When you are matching on tinder or you get a girls number in the night and want to see her during the day. Ask her how close she lives next to where you are staying due to although they live in Cartagena it can take some of them over an hour to get to Centro or Boca Grande. This gives you the timing if you are rotating chicas on the same day.I can concur that it takes a while for chicas to travel across Cartagena. Geographically, that is to say looking at it on a map, Cartagena is no that large a large city at all but there are over 900,000 people crammed into the small area that it occupies, and it is not a grided city it was deeveloped haphazardly so there is the one main road that runs through the center, and one that runs around the outside that is sometimes quicker to use. Most taxi drivers are not using GPS, so they may not even know the quickest routes that time of day, probably don't use GPS because they are poor and don't want to pay for data all day long.

I used to see a non-pro chica that lived in the far southeast part of the city and she had her own car and it took the better part of an hour for her to drive to Laguito. More recently I was seeing a chica a few times that lived near the Mall Paseo de la Castellana, which is in the eastern part of the city and it was an forty five minutes to an hour for her to come by taxi. For guys who are familiar with Medellin it is like a chica traveling from Bello to Laureles or even Poblado depending on the time of day and traffic. I posted a image of the directions routes from Google Maps to show how long it estimates.

SouthernOcean
08-13-21, 20:26
Will be in Cartagena the last week of September. Found the El Viajero Centro has an apartment. May use it or just get an extra room each night for mongering but will be nice to be that close to home. Still interested in hooking up with fellow mongers while there. Love this place. First drink is on me.

Dublin12
08-14-21, 10:16
It sends the email as soon as you click send. You should also screenshot after you press for cases when you do not get the email. I have never not gotten the email in 2 seconds.The site is an absolute nightmare and very poorly designed. I've had nothing and following on from your post, I tried to to apply again. The site has locked me out and does not recognise my password even though I saved it in Google passwords.

I've since discovered that before I entered the Bio details, I should have filled in details of my flight, and was not allowed to apply until I was 48 hours from take off. It's now obvious that the system is meant to be linear so why did it not tell me that I have to fill in flight details first, and that I cannot apply more than 48 hours in advance? If there is a problem with the info provided, when you click "next", it takes you back to the age you are already on, but gives no indication of what the problem is. Then there is the problem of ambiguity. It asks what travel doc I am using, and included in the options are "Passport" and "Official Passport". What's the difference? Aren't all Passports "official"?

I've deleted my web history in case the prob could be solved by deleting cookies, but it keeps showing my main email address.

I've contacted my Airbnb host, She has a sister who is a travel agent. She has come up with the idea that they will make the application for me using my alternate email address to access the confirmation. That way, my main email address will not cause a prob as it seems to at the moment. Hopefully that should work. However, my concern now is that they cannot do so until Midnight on Aug 22nd and if this fails the only other options I can think of are the Colombian Consulate in DUB, which is currently closed due to Covid, or possibly my host might be able to contact the Colombian Foreign Ministry in the hope of sorting this out. If it's the latter, I am presuming that the Ministry will not be open until 09.00 the following day (15.00 DUB time), and that's just 15 hours before my flight is due to take off.

Dublin12
08-14-21, 10:32
For some reason, ISG will not allow me to tag my reply to your post so I have replied this way:

I did check the junk folder when I got no acknowledgement after a couple of days. If you see my reply to Mr E, below this, you will see that my attempts to deal with this seem to have been stymied by the website itself which appears to have been very badly designed for foreign use. Thanks anyway.

Mr Enternational
08-14-21, 16:19
The site is an absolute nightmare and very poorly designed. I've had nothing and following on from your post, I tried to to apply again. The site has locked me out and does not recognise my password even though I saved it in Google passwords.
I don't know why you are having so many problems. I just did it 5 minutes ago for my trip tomorrow and no problems to speak of. Took me like 2 minutes to complete it.

There are different types of passports. Government employees and people that work at embassies have official and diplomatic passports.

Recognize your password? No idea what you are talking about. There is no password needed for the site. Maybe it is different for me because I think the app is on my phone and I am not using a website. Download the app and see how that works out for you.

Sammon
08-14-21, 16:41
I heard Cartagena high end hotels do not allow overnight guests.

1. Is it possible to get daytime guests and keep her in the room like I did in other hotels all over the world. Do they keep the cedula of guests?

2 I always book for two people. Can I go and make a deal with a chica and sign her up as my companion?

3. I am sure on the way from the airport get the taxi guy cruise around and find a girl and check in together.

Now that going to Asia is pretty much not possible this year I am thinking of going to Cartagena. Not much interested in staying at air be&be.

Like high end hotels and get a girl and stay together and maybe travel around. I have done this in Costa Rica.

Lefeu
08-14-21, 17:43
The site is an absolute nightmare and very poorly designed.

...and that I cannot apply more than 48 hours in advance? ...I am not sure which site you are using, but early this year I had similar issues. I used the Colombia migracion website and entered all the info requested. I never received an email from them. Checked my spam folder, nothing. So, I went back and tried to do it again but the site would not let me. On the 2nd time, I decided to take screen shots of what I was doing, then printed them out.

At the local airport where I live, the AA airline agent would not let me board the plane without the email from migracion. I started to argue with him and showed him my screen shots. After a while, he somehow decided to let me in. After that it was a breeze. I flew through Miami and nobody asked me for any proof. When I arrived in Colombia, I simply handed out the printout of my screen shots, and the agent stamped my passport and I was on my way.

Once in Colombia, I learned that everybody else was doing it via their smart phone and hardly anyone used their desktop / laptop. So, I assumed that was my problem. I figured the app was designed for smart phones and that it doesn't work well with desktop agents. I never had a problem since, as I switched to using my Iphone instead.

Dublin12
08-14-21, 18:32
I don't know why you are having so many problems. I just did it 5 minutes ago for my trip tomorrow and no problems to speak of. Took me like 2 minutes to complete it.

There are different types of passports. Government employees and people that work at embassies have official and diplomatic passports.

Recognize your password? No idea what you are talking about. There is no password needed for the site. Maybe it is different for me because I think the app is on my phone and I am not using a website. Download the app and see how that works out for you.https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/iniciarSesion.jsf

Click on the link, and it takes you direct to a page asking for a password.

This link: https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/registrarUsuario.jsf asks your nationality and then gives 4 passport options including "passport" and "official passport". It also includes Diplomatic passports which suggests that the other two passports mentioned have nothing to do with Diplomatic.

And if you look at this site: https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf it apparently has seven different types of passport listed.

I really don't make this stuff up.

Dublin12
08-14-21, 18:46
I heard Cartagena high end hotels do not allow overnight guests.

1. Is it possible to get daytime guests and keep her in the room like I did in other hotels all over the world. Do they keep the cedula of guests?

2 I always book for two people. Can I go and make a deal with a chica and sign her up as my companion?

3. I am sure on the way from the airport get the taxi guy cruise around and find a girl and check in together.

Now that going to Asia is pretty much not possible this year I am thinking of going to Cartagena. Not much interested in staying at air be&be.

Like high end hotels and get a girl and stay together and maybe travel around. I have done this in Costa Rica.Finding G / friendly hotels seems to be difficult. There is this on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kj2Tw8EB1s

I am in the same boat as you: a 1st time refugee from SEA, and the perceived wisdom seems to be that you are more likely to find success with Airbnb. But ypu will need to clarify with the hosts in advance.

Look through recent posts on this section, and there is plenty of advice from regular mongers.

Dublin12
08-14-21, 18:59
I am not sure which site you are using, but early this year I had similar issues. I used the Colombia migracion website and entered all the info requested. I never received an email from them. Checked my spam folder, nothing. So, I went back and tried to do it again but the site would not let me. On the 2nd time, I decided to take screen shots of what I was doing, then printed them out.

At the local airport where I live, the AA airline agent would not let me board the plane without the email from migracion. I started to argue with him and showed him my screen shots. After a while, he somehow decided to let me in. After that it was a breeze. I flew through Miami and nobody asked me for any proof. When I arrived in Colombia, I simply handed out the printout of my screen shots, and the agent stamped my passport and I was on my way.

Once in Colombia, I learned that everybody else was doing it via their smart phone and hardly anyone used their desktop / laptop. So, I assumed that was my problem. I figured the app was designed for smart phones and that it doesn't work well with desktop agents. I never had a problem since, as I switched to using my Iphone instead.I am glad to hear that my experience is not unique. However if you check the post by Gene Hickman #11341, you will see that he says it's the phone app that is the problem and he recommends using the web browser.

I think you were lucky with the AA airline agent. He would have been within his rights to refuse you, but I am delighted that you had a happy ending.

I can't follow your screenshot advice because I am still locked out by my rejected password.

I strongly suspect that there is more than one app, and I have fallen foul of the "rogue".

Dublin12
08-14-21, 19:09
I don't know why you are having so many problems. I just did it 5 minutes ago for my trip tomorrow and no problems to speak of. Took me like 2 minutes to complete it.

There are different types of passports. Government employees and people that work at embassies have official and diplomatic passports.

Recognize your password? No idea what you are talking about. There is no password needed for the site. Maybe it is different for me because I think the app is on my phone and I am not using a website. Download the app and see how that works out for you.I see from your screenshots that this is entirely different from the site I've been using. Also if you read you read the post by Lefeu, he pretty much complains of identical problems to that which I had including password probs.

FLBill
08-14-21, 22:17
Finding G / friendly hotels seems to be difficult. There is this on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kj2Tw8EB1s

I am in the same boat as you: a 1st time refugee from SEA, and the perceived wisdom seems to be that you are more likely to find success with Airbnb. But ypu will need to clarify with the hosts in advance.

Look through recent posts on this section, and there is plenty of advice from regular mongers.I am going to Cartagena next month. A girl from Barranquilla that I met a few months ago in Miami is meeting me there and will be staying with me the entire stay. If I register her as the 2nd guest in the room, will hotels have a problem?

Thanks in advance!

Mojo Bandit
08-14-21, 22:58
https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/iniciarSesion.jsf

Click on the link, and it takes you direct to a page asking for a password.

This link: https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/registrarUsuario.jsf asks your nationality and then gives 4 passport options including "passport" and "official passport". It also includes Diplomatic passports which suggests that the other two passports mentioned have nothing to do with Diplomatic.

And if you look at this site: https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf it apparently has seven different types of passport listed.

I really don't make this stuff up.Try this link. I did not read that whole post before I replied, I had only seen the part where the link was asking for a passport, sorry, now I cannot delete my post I can only edit to say what I am saying now. LOL

Anyway this is the good link
https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf

Nypher
08-14-21, 23:09
I see from your screenshots that this is entirely different from the site I've been using. Also if you read you read the post by Lefeu, he pretty much complains of identical problems to that which I had including password probs.I used the link Jetblue provided me in their email.

Entry requirements and required documents for Colombia:

• All travelers to Colombia must complete an online immigration / customs form prior to departure. Please be ready to display proof of your completed form during the boarding process. Click here to access the form.

https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf

Select "Makeyour Check Mig" and proceed.

Sammon
08-15-21, 01:57
Finding G / friendly hotels seems to be difficult. There is this on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kj2Tw8EB1s

I am in the same boat as you: a 1st time refugee from SEA, and the perceived wisdom seems to be that you are more likely to find success with Airbnb. But ypu will need to clarify with the hosts in advance.

Look through recent posts on this section, and there is plenty of advice from regular mongers.Thanks but I am talking about 4 or 5 star hotels. I am sure there are some hotels who allow guests. I looked on the video and one he showed looked okay 2 star.

Mojo Bandit
08-15-21, 02:37
I am going to Cartagena next month. A girl from Barranquilla that I met a few months ago in Miami is meeting me there and will be staying with me the entire stay. If I register her as the 2nd guest in the room, will hotels have a problem?

Thanks in advance!Thre is no restriction that says a man and a woman cannot check into a hotel together, no matter thier nationalities either. Think of it this way if there is a restricion it is for "visitors" not "guests", You and the chica will both be guests. You make the registration with your name and her name on the registration then show up with your respective IDs and you should be good to go.

FLBill
08-15-21, 02:41
Thre is no restriction that says a man and a woman cannot check into a hotel together, no matter thier nationalities either. Think of it this way if there is a restricion it is for "visitors" not "guests", You and the chica will both be guests. You make the registration with your name and her name on the registration then show up with your respective IDs and you should be good to go.That's what I figured, was just making sure. I will probably get an apartment as well so I can entertain visitors.

Dublin12
08-15-21, 07:56
I am going to Cartagena next month. A girl from Barranquilla that I met a few months ago in Miami is meeting me there and will be staying with me the entire stay. If I register her as the 2nd guest in the room, will hotels have a problem?

Thanks in advance!Before I decided to go Airbnb, I made inquiries with some hotels, and it appears that the booking is dedicated to the girl you sign in with. If you get rid of the original girl, most will require you to make a new booking or pay a joiner fee. I am still a virgin regarding Colombia, so it is best that you check directly with the hotel, but as I understand it, you will not have any probs as long as you are monogamous.

Dublin12
08-15-21, 08:07
Try this link. I did not read that whole post before I replied, I had only seen the part where the link was asking for a passport, sorry, now I cannot delete my post I can only edit to say what I am saying now. LOL

Anyway this is the good link
https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsfThanks, but I am also locked out from that site too.

I have a "Plan be" in place. The lady who is hosting my Airbnb, has a sister that is a travel agent. She will fill the form out for me and use my alternate email address so that I can print off the paperwork when it hits my inbox at this end. I've given her all the necessary details, and I am now waiting to take my PCR test on Saturday.

Dublin12
08-15-21, 08:17
I used the link Jetblue provided me in their email.

Entry requirements and required documents for Colombia:

All travelers to Colombia must complete an online immigration / customs form prior to departure. Please be ready to display proof of your completed form during the boarding process. Click here to access the form.

https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf

Select "Makeyour Check Mig" and proceed.Thanks for the input. As I explained to Mojo, my previous visit to the site has me locked into a password that it will no longer recognise, so I am going with the plan be I mentioned to him. The worry is that if that does not work, by the time I find out and am able to come up with an alternate plan such as contacting the Colombian Immigration Office, I am only 15 hours from takeoff.

FLBill
08-15-21, 15:43
Before I decided to go Airbnb, I made inquiries with some hotels, and it appears that the booking is dedicated to the girl you sign in with. If you get rid of the original girl, most will require you to make a new booking or pay a joiner fee. I am still a virgin regarding Colombia, so it is best that you check directly with the hotel, but as I understand it, you will not have any probs as long as you are monogamous.Well, as far as they know I will be monogamous, at least in their hotel. In the airbnb apartment a few blocks away I plan to be decidedly not monogamous.

Monger on!

Nypher
08-15-21, 16:01
Day 7 here. More rain when waking up.

Last night was terrible!

My friends and I reached Dulce around 10 pm, they told us we cannot come in unless we buy bottle service at a table (the exact same nonsense why I do not go clubs back at home).

Ok we agreed, got the bottle, got the table, then 15 minutes later one of the bouncers started walking around whispering in the girls ears and it was like the flood gates opened as 90% of the girls left the club. Now we are sitting there with a bottle of liquor more than half full surrounded by mostly men.

Trying to figure out what the fuck is going on I texted 3 chicas who were in there that I have a history with and they all said the same thing. The police were doing operations and immigration, so all the Venezuelan chicas left the clubs and all the girls are now at the Clock Tower. I went outside to confirm and indeed cops everywhere, about 15 alone in front of Dulce and Space. I try to go back inside the bouncer won't let me in, saying he cannot let anyone in because of the cops. So I just paid for a table, with bottle service, and cannot even finish the bottle because he won't let me in. I text my friends to pour out the liquor in the bucket of ice (for principle), pay the bill and lets go to the Clock Tower. My friends come out the club with blue masks on saying the bouncer went around handing out masks like crazy, telling every one mask up.

We started walking around to get new girls but the sewage smell was too strong in some places that didn't drain properly from the rain earlier in the day. We walking around until almost 2 am and called it a night of wasted time and money.

Despite it raining every day, the sewage smell, and the random police raid, this is still by far one of the best times I'm having here. I have not heard a single leche papi and hearing more duro papi duro, and mas papi mas. Jajajaja.

Kafka
08-15-21, 20:53
Just go to a computer that you have not logged in from, or use another phone and go to the correct page on the site not the one asking for a passport. Some browsers give you the option of browsing anonymously that would work too... finally you can get rid of all cookies on the phone l.

Fill fill out the form and have it sent to your email address and the problem. You are the solution sounds like a disaster in waiting.


Thanks for the input. As I explained to Mojo, my previous visit to the site has me locked into a password that it will no longer recognise, so I am going with the plan be I mentioned to him. The worry is that if that does not work, by the time I find out and am able to come up with an alternate plan such as contacting the Colombian Immigration Office, I am only 15 hours from takeoff.

Mr Enternational
08-15-21, 21:33
Day 7 here. More rain when waking up.

Last night was terrible!

My friends and I reached Dulce around 10 pm, they told us we cannot come in unless we buy bottle service at a tableMe and another board member were at a spot in Medellin. I sat at a table 20 minutes waiting for them to come clean the table and take the order. So the guy went to the bar and bought 2 beers for us. They finally cleaned the table. When he came back with the beers and they saw us sitting there drinking them, they came and took the table from in front of us. So we were just sitting there tableless. They said you have to buy a bottle to sit. I said mf we been here 20 minutes waiting for you to get this table together. Four Colombian guys came and they ordered a bottle and they gave the table to them. The guys had us join them and asked us to drink with them.


I text my friends to pour out the liquor in the bucket of ice (for principle), pay the bill and lets go to the Clock Tower.Why not just tell them to bring the bottle with them?

Dublin12
08-15-21, 23:17
Just go to a computer that you have not logged in from, or use another phone and go to the correct page on the site not the one asking for a passport. Some browsers give you the option of browsing anonymously that would work too... finally you can get rid of all cookies on the phone l.

Fill fill out the form and have it sent to your email address and the problem. You are the solution sounds like a disaster in waiting.I ill try that in due course if my plan B fails. But part of the problem may well be that I applied too early. I have to wait until 22nd.

Kc Talent
08-17-21, 06:12
Just go to a computer that you have not logged in from, or use another phone and go to the correct page on the site not the one asking for a passport. Some browsers give you the option of browsing anonymously that would work too... finally you can get rid of all cookies on the phone l.

Fill fill out the form and have it sent to your email address and the problem. You are the solution sounds like a disaster in waiting.Leaving Cartagena today on American I did not fill mine out until I got to the airport, Checked in for my flight than was sent to customer service and guest what she fill the whole thing out for me and once it is done I got the return email in about 5 seconds. She used the airport internet it is out side the customer service office back in the corner and that where you get the internet. I played confused and take out my wallet and she came outside the office walked me to the corner and fill out the whole form. Take less than 10 min. For the whole thing and the return email. My suggestion, act confuse but with money my cost 5 one dollar bills. Skip that long line out side too with a few $ and he took me right to the girl checking everyone in.

Nypher
08-17-21, 14:24
Me and another board member were at a spot in Medellin. I sat at a table 20 minutes waiting for them to come clean the table and take the order. So the guy went to the bar and bought 2 beers for us. They finally cleaned the table. When he came back with the beers and they saw us sitting there drinking them, they came and took the table from in front of us. So we were just sitting there tableless. They said you have to buy a bottle to sit. I said mf we been here 20 minutes waiting for you to get this table together. Four Colombian guys came and they ordered a bottle and they gave the table to them. The guys had us join them and asked us to drink with them.

Why not just tell them to bring the bottle with them?My friends an I usually bring our own liquor on the plane with us due to they do not sell what we drink here. We usually do not buy bottles in the club either but when we do, or have to, its mostly for the Chicas to drink in the club. When we bring them back to the apartment to party in private they drink less of our liquor since they already had plenty at the Disco. What got me annoyed is that they did not allow us to buy the small bottle, it was the large bottle only, then after we opened and started talking to girls and having them sit and drink to feel out their personality, all of them cleared out of the club and we had so much left to get rid of. We didn't even get a chance to get whatsap numbers so we can text them to have them come back with us.

But you are indeed right, we could have taken the bottle with us but I was so annoyed I just told them dump it since we are not going to drink it, and no girls there to drink it either.

AmorPorFavor
08-18-21, 05:26
My friends an I usually bring our own liquor on the plane with us due to they do not sell what we drink here. We usually do not buy bottles in the club either but when we do, or have to, its mostly for the Chicas to drink in the club. When we bring them back to the apartment to party in private they drink less of our liquor since they already had plenty at the Disco. What got me annoyed is that they did not allow us to buy the small bottle, it was the large bottle only, then after we opened and started talking to girls and having them sit and drink to feel out their personality, all of them cleared out of the club and we had so much left to get rid of. We didn't even get a chance to get whatsap numbers so we can text them to have them come back with us.

But you are indeed right, we could have taken the bottle with us but I was so annoyed I just told them dump it since we are not going to drink it, and no girls there to drink it either.Sounds like going to CTG is a pain in the ass right now. I want to go in Dec, hopefully the situations will improve. What liquors do you bring with you? Good luck with the loco chicas.

Nypher
08-18-21, 15:06
Sounds like going to CTG is a pain in the ass right now. I want to go in Dec, hopefully the situations will improve. What liquors do you bring with you? Good luck with the loco chicas.We pack Titos and put it in our checked bags. As long as the traveler don't go crazy with the quantity it will go though customs. Each person pack two 1 liter bottles and if we want to chance it, each person then buys an additional 1.75 (the jug handle one) at Duty free on the American side. There's not much in discos, the most I see is Absolut, Bombay Sapphire and Smirnoff, they might be others but these are the only ones that stand out.

I'm on Day #11 and despite the rain every day, the never ending sewer smell, the random raid on the discos that night, I'm still having a blast once we get the girls back to the apartment. Then they want to come back during the daytime just to hang out and play in the pool and drink.

AmorPorFavor
08-18-21, 18:38
We pack Titos and put it in our checked bags. As long as the traveler don't go crazy with the quantity it will go though customs. Each person pack two 1 liter bottles and if we want to chance it, each person then buys an additional 1.75 (the jug handle one) at Duty free on the American side. There's not much in discos, the most I see is Absolut, Bombay Sapphire and Smirnoff, they might be others but these are the only ones that stand out.

I'm on Day #11 and despite the rain every day, the never ending sewer smell, the random raid on the discos that night, I'm still having a blast once we get the girls back to the apartment. Then they want to come back during the daytime just to hang out and play in the pool and drink.I drink Titos as well here at home in the USA. I only travel to the Caribbean Nov-April because of all the heat, humidity and rain. You will still get some rain but not nearly as bad. If you are nice to the girls in CTG and they like you they want to hang around and you can get some better pricing for their time. Last trip to CTG I paid one for 48 hours then she stayed the third night for free. Took her to Playa Blanca and it was a great day. Had another one I paid for an hour and she stayed about 5. This was right before covid hit and ruined everything.

Nypher
08-18-21, 22:08
I drink Titos as well here at home in the USA. I only travel to the Caribbean Nov-April because of all the heat, humidity and rain. You will still get some rain but not nearly as bad. If you are nice to the girls in CTG and they like you they want to hang around and you can get some better pricing for their time. Last trip to CTG I paid one for 48 hours then she stayed the third night for free. Took her to Playa Blanca and it was a great day. Had another one I paid for an hour and she stayed about 5. This was right before covid hit and ruined everything.I operate the same. Tell them come for an hour, negotiate the price, they get here and its all business for them once the service is completed I pay them. 5 hours later they are still here playing in the pool, practicing their English on my while practice my Spanish on them. I ask them what happened to all business, they say I'm not like the others and the like being around me. These are the one I keep in my phone and can get on the ground info from before I come or while I'm here if something is happening.

Free WIFI for them is is like a gift of heaven.

Edward Q
08-19-21, 14:18
Tuesday afternoon the Clock Tower was flooded with cops. No girls anywhere. When it got dark, the color of the uniforms changed and it was Migracion prowling. Still no girls. I did a lot of walking around. This is the reason another poster asked if there was an alternate to the Clock Tower for finding SWs. Might be busy on other nights, but some nights not so much. Thanks to Johnny Law. At around 11:00 I returned to the CT and began to see a few girls hiding away from the center of the square and more by the benches. But only about six or so. Most looked desperate, but I was lucky to find a nice girl with a cute smile named Michelle. She wanted 200 k. I talked her down to 100 k. Later, we were chatting and she wondered why I would counter her 200 k offer with 60 k. "Surely there are no girls that will go with your for 60. " I said I had been in Bogota and that was the price. (I didn't want to tell her that the price was actually 30 k. Didn't want a whole debate on that.) She said, Ah, ya. She understood. But not here, she said. In any event, I felt lucky. She had a great personality, liked to laugh, did not watch the clock and once she got ahold of your little friend in her mouth, would not let go. The longest BBBJ I've had since I can remember. I'm talking 30 minutes. I didn't want to stop her as she seemed to be enjoying it. However, in spite of all that, she did a lot of gagging and spitting. Said she hated the taste. Then went right back to work, stopping every once in a while to ask a question about me or about what kind of sex I liked. Excellent skills in the oral dept. When we got down to "amor" she was not as nimble. But still a lot of fun. 26 yo with 3 sons but you might not know it by looking at her. A Vennie who's been in the country for a year. Never tried to ask for more money. Wish I had repeated the second night. This night for some reason the city was hopping. People everywhere and the bar next to my Airbnb going well late into the night.

Wednesday, I signed up for the Chiva Party Bus tour. I didn't enjoy it. I jumped ship at the clock tower and the whole scene there was night and day from Tues. 10:30 PM and the plaza was jumping. No cops and a lot of girls. Openly negotiating with dudes like me. I got a couple of opening bids of 250 k. When I balked, they said 200 was the lowest they would go. I hung out a while checking out the talent. If I had been more patient I would probably have succumbed and paid the 200 k. Only something told me that these girls would not live up to the price tag. I ran into Michelle again and made the mistake of not repeating. I had dreams of bigger and better fish, fool that I am. Instead of going for personality, I went for looks. And was disappointed. The one I found was willing to go with me for 100 k. Then back in the room she tried to say we had agree on 100 USD. I reminded her exactly of the conversation. She then asked for 50 k more, and I told her to leave. Then she said, It's Ok, and we began to go at it. But once again, I failed to set the rules up ahead of time and paid the price. Little friend was covered for the BJ and she was not great at it. When we moved on to other things she was texting while we were in the middle of the act. I couldn't sustain it and she knew it. She told me just to finish on her belly. I just wanted her out of there, so that's what happened. She mentioned a few times the need to pay her 50 k more, and I told her she was dreaming. She left after receiving a text that must have been her next date. Live and learn, I keep telling myself. Off to Barranquilla today. I see there is little in that section here on the Forum, so I want to see for myself what is going on in the land of Shakira.

Nounce
08-19-21, 17:38
Tuesday afternoon the Clock TowerI enjoy all your reports. Feel I was there. Thank you.

Nypher
08-19-21, 21:27
Keep them off their phones once you closed the deal.

Here's a little lesson for the newbies. My friend flew in Tuesday for a few days, first time in CTG. Last night he wanted to go to Delirium to check it out because he saw a youtuber posting videos inside the club and he liked it. I told him repeatedly he did not leave NYC on a 5 hour flight out of America to do the same shit when he could stayed his ass at home and do it. He insisted so I said fuck it let him learn.

He goes in, I wait outside. He's texting me back like a kid in a candy store. I warn him be cool and state your price but he goes and asks how much, all the girls are telling him 700 mil or 800 mil for the night. After 5 minutes of this I say enough and I go in to get him and whatever girl he's haggling the price with. He points out the girl, I call her over and tell her 400 mil for the night 2 leche she refuse and stick to 800 mil. I take off my mask so she can see me smiling when I tell her "I have options over in Dulce and we out. " She recognizes me from one of her friends whatsapp status and says I know her amiga and she then agrees to the 400 mil with "listo". Cool, I tell my boy we out, to grab my chica from Dulce but he wants to be hard headed and stay in the disco and drink and dance with the girl. I tell him, "we not here for that, do that in the apartment, you are not here no impress anyone, no one cares how much you are spending on drinks, or how good you can grind, we need to go now. " he decides to stay.

I leave, tell my girl to come out of Dulce, I meet her outside and start walking back to the apartment. He text me, there's a problem. I go back over there, my chica does not want to go in as she only works in Dulce. I go in and of course the girl wants 800 mil. I ask him what happened, he doesn't know, she was on her phone texting then just wanted more money. I ask her why the increase, she says another guy is offering 1000 mil but she will go with my friend for 800 mil. I look at my friend and tell him its his pockets and his mistake so his choice if he want to get into a bidding war. He agrees, and she leaves with him. We are all walking back and she is still texting on her phone, then stops and tell my friend "no puedo." I ask why, the same guy offered her 1200 mil so now she wants 1000 mil. I told her no, she starts walking back to the club and my friend has the saddest look on his face. We decide to do a few loops outside Space, Dulce, Delirium and he finds another girl. Starts talking to her, she wants 600 mil, I counter with 300 mil we settle on 400 mil.

We get back to the apartment, jump in the pool start pouring drinks, he looks at my girl like a dog staring at a bone, ask me how much I'm paying. When I told him 300 mil for the night any night I want, unlimited rounds, and sometimes I just pay taxi one way and get it for free he couldn't believe.

Mr Enternational
08-20-21, 00:36
Don't matter. Y'all shit about to get shut down!

"la joven que fue encontrada muerta el pasado 14 de agosto en el edificio Camalarí, en Bocagrande (Cartagena), señalan que la mujer fue asesinada por un hombre de origen estadounidense"

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSxVZ1yFB45/?utm_medium=share_sheet

Mojo Bandit
08-20-21, 00:47
Tuesday afternoon the Clock Tower was flooded with cops. No girls anywhere. When it got dark, the color of the uniforms changed and it was Migracion prowling. Still no girls. I did a lot of walking around. This is the reason another poster asked if there was an alternate to the Clock Tower for finding SWs. Might be busy on other nights, but some nights not so much. Thanks to Johnny Law. At around 11:00 I returned to the CT and began to see a few girls hiding away from the center of the square and more by the benches. But only about six or so. Most looked desperate, but I was lucky to find a nice girl with a cute smile named Miche

This night for some reason the city was hopping. People everywhere and the bar next to my Airbnb going well late into the night.

Then back in the room she tried to say we had agree on 100 USD. I reminded her exactly of the conversation. She then asked for 50 k more, and I told her to leave. Then she said, It's Ok, and we began to go at it. But once again, I failed to set the rules up ahead of time and paid the price. Little friend was covered for the BJ and she was not great at it. When we moved on to other things she was texting while we were in the middle of the act. I couldn't sustain it and she knew it. She told me just to finish on her belly. I just wanted her out of there, so that's what happened. She mentioned a few times the need to pay her 50 k more, and I told her she was dreaming. She left after receiving a text that must have been her next date. Live and learn, I keep telling myself. Off to Barranquilla today. I see there is little in that section here on the Forum, so I want to see for myself what is going on in the land of Shakira.This is very good reporting, very informative, sounds like you handled the situations pretty well. Thank you very much.

AmorPorFavor
08-20-21, 00:50
I operate the same. Tell them come for an hour, negotiate the price, they get here and its all business for them once the service is completed I pay them. 5 hours later they are still here playing in the pool, practicing their English on my while practice my Spanish on them. I ask them what happened to all business, they say I'm not like the others and the like being around me. These are the one I keep in my phone and can get on the ground info from before I come or while I'm here if something is happening.

Free WIFI for them is is like a gift of heaven.Yeah free wifi, a nice apartment and a good hard boning usually works.

AmorPorFavor
08-20-21, 00:53
Don't matter. Y'all shit about to get shut down!

"la joven que fue encontrada muerta el pasado 14 de agosto en el edificio Camalar, en Bocagrande (Cartagena), sealan que la mujer fue asesinada por un hombre de origen estadounidense"

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSxVZ1yFB45/?utm_medium=share_sheetI hope they catch him and he spends the rest of his life in some shithole Columbian jail.

Balboa
08-20-21, 01:09
I hope they catch him and he spends the rest of his life in some shithole Columbian jail.A Colombian jail would even be worse!

Mojo Bandit
08-20-21, 03:12
Don't matter. Y'all shit about to get shut down!

"la joven que fue encontrada muerta el pasado 14 de agosto en el edificio Camalar, en Bocagrande (Cartagena), sealan que la mujer fue asesinada por un hombre de origen estadounidense"

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSxVZ1yFB45/?utm_medium=share_sheet


I hope they catch him and he spends the rest of his life in some shithole Columbian jail.


A Colombian jail would even be worse!Here is what looks like a some more detailed reports about the incident, as of the writing of this article it looks like the police have not actually called it a homicide yet.

According to the story in Semana, which has his mug shot picture from California, this guy had previously be sentenced to do 24 yrs in California Im trying to figure out how he got out of the country after that

https://www.semana.com/nacion/articulo/la-misteriosa-muerte-de-laura-melissa-caraballo-montano-en-exclusivo-sector-de-cartagena/202115/

https://www.eluniversal.com.co/sucesos/feminicidio-o-suicidio-la-misteriosa-muerte-de-una-mujer-en-bocagrande-AA5211741

Here is the story about him being sentenced in the US
https://www.commercial-news.com/news/local_news/condon-receives-24-years-in-idoc/article_fd282de8-b7ed-11ea-a5cb-fbb217464bfb.html

Nypher
08-20-21, 04:33
Here is what looks like a some more detailed reports about the incident, as of the writing of this article it looks like the police have not actually called it a homicide yet.

According to the story in Semana, which has his mug shot picture from California, this guy had previously be sentenced to do 24 yrs in California Im trying to figure out how he got out of the country after that

https://www.semana.com/nacion/articulo/la-misteriosa-muerte-de-laura-melissa-caraballo-montano-en-exclusivo-sector-de-cartagena/202115/

https://www.eluniversal.com.co/sucesos/feminicidio-o-suicidio-la-misteriosa-muerte-de-una-mujer-en-bocagrande-AA5211741

Here is the story about him being sentenced in the US
https://www.commercial-news.com/news/local_news/condon-receives-24-years-in-idoc/article_fd282de8-b7ed-11ea-a5cb-fbb217464bfb.htmlI could have sworn I saw this girl working in Dolce.

FLBill
08-20-21, 05:07
Does anybody have any good contact information for setting up an excursion to the Rosarios while in Cartagena? The ladies I'm meeting there recommend it highly for a bikini-filled day.

Kafka
08-20-21, 05:35
Sounds like you got what you paid for.


Tuesday afternoon the Clock Tower was flooded with cops. No girls anywhere. When it got dark, the color of the uniforms changed and it was Migracion prowling. Still no girls. I did a lot of walking around. This is the reason another poster asked if there was an alternate to the Clock Tower for finding SWs. Might be busy on other nights, but some nights not so much. Thanks to Johnny Law. At around 11:00 I returned to the CT and began to see a few girls hiding away from the center of the square and more by the benches. But only about six or so. Most looked desperate, but I was lucky to find a nice girl with a cute smile named Michelle. She wanted 200 k. I talked her down to 100 k. Later, we were chatting and she wondered why I would counter her 200 k offer with 60 k. "Surely there are no girls that will go with your for 60. " I said I had been in Bogota and that was the price. (I didn't want to tell her that the price was actually 30 k. Didn't want a whole debate on that.) She said, Ah, ya. She understood. But not here, she said. In any event, I felt lucky. She had a great personality, liked to laugh, did not watch the clock and once she got ahold of your little friend in her mouth, would not let go. The longest BBBJ I've had since I can remember. I'm talking 30 minutes. I didn't want to stop her as she seemed to be enjoying it. However, in spite of all that, she did a lot of gagging and spitting. Said she hated the taste. Then went right back to work, stopping every once in a while to ask a question about me or about what kind of sex I liked. Excellent skills in the oral dept. When we got down to "amor" she was not as nimble. But still a lot of fun. 26 yo with 3 sons but you might not know it by looking at her. A Vennie who's been in the country for a year. Never tried to ask for more money. Wish I had repeated the second night. This night for some reason the city was hopping. People everywhere and the bar next to my Airbnb going well late into the night.

Wednesday, I signed up for the Chiva Party Bus tour. I didn't enjoy it. I jumped ship at the clock tower and the whole scene there was night and day from Tues. 10:30 PM and the plaza was jumping. No cops and a lot of girls. Openly negotiating with dudes like me. I got a couple of opening bids of 250 k. When I balked, they said 200 was the lowest they would go. I hung out a while checking out the talent. If I had been more patient I would probably have succumbed and paid the 200 k. Only something told me that these girls would not live up to the price tag. I ran into Michelle again and made the mistake of not repeating. I had dreams of bigger and better fish, fool that I am. Instead of going for personality, I went for looks. And was disappointed. The one I found was willing to go with me for 100 k. Then back in the room she tried to say we had agree on 100 USD. I reminded her exactly of the conversation. She then asked for 50 k more, and I told her to leave. Then she said, It's Ok, and we began to go at it. But once again, I failed to set the rules up ahead of time and paid the price. Little friend was covered for the BJ and she was not great at it. When we moved on to other things she was texting while we were in the middle of the act. I couldn't sustain it and she knew it. She told me just to finish on her belly. I just wanted her out of there, so that's what happened. She mentioned a few times the need to pay her 50 k more, and I told her she was dreaming. She left after receiving a text that must have been her next date. Live and learn, I keep telling myself. Off to Barranquilla today. I see there is little in that section here on the Forum, so I want to see for myself what is going on in the land of Shakira.

The Tall Man
08-20-21, 16:36
I could have sworn I saw this girl working in Dolce.My exact same thoughts as I was reading the story.

Sad situation but as typical the parents, the father, oh no she was not a sex worker, yea right.

Again very sad that she died but sometimes when these girls are in this life bad things happen be it in Colombia or Europe or the US.

The Tall Man.

The Tall Man
08-20-21, 16:47
Keep them off their phones once you closed the deal.

Here's a little lesson for the newbies.

I tell him, "we not here for that, do that in the apartment, you are not here no impress anyone, no one cares how much you are spending on drinks, or how good you can grind, we need to go now. " he decides to stay.
Truer words have never been spoken. This should be posted on a sign hanging prominently in every bar and club in Colombia.

If a guy wants to dance then they need to head to a normal salsa club and have at it but every chica in the clubs of Cartagena are there for one thing and one thing only, and this is to sell their pussy for an agreed amount of time, end of story, full stop.

And I live what I preach as last weekend I wanted to dance at a club so my good Colombian buddy and I went to a cool techno-regge club on the 45 in Manrique (a barrio of Medellin) and we had a blast dancing with groups of regular Colombian guys and gals for 5 hours, it was a party atmosphere, great fun, yes I got some digits with some really cool paisas I met there but the night was just to hang out and chill. I ended up spending 135 mil for 5 hours of multiple bottles of rum which I shared with other tables throughout the night as they also shared their drinks and joints and other party favors with me.

The Tall Man.

Nypher
08-20-21, 19:36
Thursday. Its hot! Skin burning hot, perfect for a pool party. Texted the girls and explained to them they are welcome to come over and hang out play in the pool, we will order Rappi for lunch, and if the guys want it will be 1 leche for 150 mil. All the girls agreed. All three girls arrived we started playing in the pool having fun, they are doing their selfies and Instagram pics. Food gets here everyone goes down and eat (I'm still shocked I only spent $50 on food for 6 people and we still had plenty left overs). We ran out of corona as Exito only had the small ones so all three of us return to our rooms with the girls to do our thing, finish up then back to the pool. About 3 hours later here comes the rain we all run inside and decide to call it a night. Told the girls if they want to take the leftover food with them they can since we were going to toss it. They agreed, cleaned up the kitchen and washed the dishes so we barely had anything to clean up.

We are stuck in side with all the rain, and I decide to just get more girls to come over but my boy want to go back to Delirium. Fine. We all walk over there in the rain and as soon as we get there the rain stops jajaja. We all go in, my boy learned his lesson, he saw what he wanted negotiated the price and took her out the disco immediately. I'm still looking but don't see anything, my other friend looks as well sees nothing so we leave. On the way out I recognize a few mongers from Sosua, gave them the head nod and kept moving. I get outside and my other friend gets something that was outside that was about to go inside Delirium. We start walking over to Dolce and I see more familiar monger faces from Sosua, gave them the head nod and kept moving. On my way into Dolce, one of the girls that was at the apartment earlier was outside looking angry. I ask what's wrong (something I would suggest you should never do), she says they won't let her in because they say she was late but if she goes in with me they will let her in (I didn't know there was a cut off time for girls to get in because I see them going in all random times). We go in and I see another familiar Sosua face, I pay no mind to it and go for something I like and offered 400 mil but was instantly countered with 800 mil. When asked why she said all the girls in Dolce were 800 mil because Dolce only let in the best girls. OK, no problem I move on to look for something else then to my surprise when I get back to the bar she's talking to the same girl I came into the club with so I go over and in a joking way asked her why is her friend trying to empty my pockets. She laughs and says that price is my price because her friend does not know me and don't know if I will hurt her preventing her from working for a few days. Sounds fair I guess. They start talking and she comes back over to me and say "400 mil la noche, Listo". I countered with 300 mil la noche just to be funny and she agrees. All back to the apartment more drinks and playing a few rounds of Just Dance winner gets 50 mil looser takes a shot, girls ordered more food (I don't know where these girls get food delivers from at 1 am because most Rappi places are closed).

All in all another fun night, and fun morning, I got 2 rounds out of her, gave her the 400 mil to which she was surprised because she also walked away with an extra 100 mil from winning at the game. Now she wants to come back the next night, I told her no, she can stop by during the day time but it will be 150 mil. She agrees.

Nypher
08-20-21, 19:40
My exact same thoughts as I was reading the story.

Sad situation but as typical the parents, the father, oh no she was not a sex worker, yea right.

Again very sad that she died but sometimes when these girls are in this life bad things happen be it in Colombia or Europe or the US.

The Tall Man.Two of my Dolce girls confirmed she use to work in there and was into drugs allot and they thought it she offed herself.

Mrai7870
08-21-21, 05:28
Two of my Dolce girls confirmed she use to work in there and was into drugs allot and they thought it she offed herself.This story is very sad. Two weeks ago I messaged a pimp that I know from my previous trip for some pictures to see what the talent was like for our upcoming trip. This girl was was one of the first he sent me. When I asked him about her yesterday he said she was killed.

Kc Talent
08-21-21, 07:54
Arrived in Cartagena Colombia on August 11th after I saw my flight with Spirit was going to be a no go out of Kansas City. I pulled out that American Airline card by Citibank and was on my way to Miami with a connection to Cartagena. Phone worked on arrival in Cartagena but had no Wi-Fi like I was told I would have, so stop into a phone store and ask about getting wi-fi was told would have to swap out the sim card so I passed since I had text. Headed to Hotel OZ for the 1st day to rest and look around some than connected the hotel wi-fi to get in touch with a scuba diving friend from NY that I met in the DR. Wanted to show me the Clock Tower, really let's go.

Went to all 3-4 clubs so full of hot sexy ass chica brought a bottle at one of the clubs Dolce, and put my hands all over nice ass and tits for awhile the bottle price was worth the cost. I notice a tall dark hair sexy looking chica just watching us I turn my head and made eye contact with her, and her big tits and that ass was the first thing I touch when I greeted her. Name was Liz, 22 tall amazon at least 5'11 super long legs I notice from the slit in her dress that almost went up to that pussy and yes I touched that too. Looked at the time it was 1 am I ask her to come with me home she said yes so, I said is 500 K ok she wanted 700 K told her ok but you are going to earn every dam peso. Got to the hotel after stopping to get tequila had the hotel bring us ice. We fuck 2 or 3 times before falling to sleep. Day #2. We woke up late went to a store that sold beach wear to buy her a common casual shoes and a dress got breakfast took a cab to The Airbnb to see Juan and the apartment.

Juan is a super good guy and host. He gives me the keys for 404 and said you go I will be there in 10 min.

The apartment was great 2 rooms 2 bath and the patio door to the balcony was right on the ocean and no one can see on the balcony at night the water was right below us. I asked Juan was it a place near by to take my Corvid rapid test, he asked when I needed it done and sent the person right to the apartment at the time, we set I didn't have to go nowhere. I was too lazy to plan anything for the night just wanted some dinner and lay around with Liz giving me BBJ at the apartment. Liz was on her phone texting I seen a photo on her phone and said Dam, who is that" Liz tells me, "That's her friend from Medellin why you what her, "hell yea.

Here is Karna, nice fat ass super pretty face and tits off the hook. Great threesome with two pretty girls. I was happy got some ass too from Karna, that morning. Cost 100 USD to Karna plus 300 K to Liz and taxi and a Uber.

They went home about 7 AM. Day#3. Went to Hollywood beach around 2 PM to meet Tony. This guy already had me a spot with a sexy girl than wanted to bring more, had to tell him to stop I'm good plus some of them that came by was just 7-8's. A very sexy small girl ass moving real nice with prefect makeup and hot body came over acting boosie like she was the shit, she was very cute and model like, so we talked, and she was making me sick so I told her, " I'm the prize not you," but I'm going to fuck you anyway. Showed Tony how much I owed him, on my phone because I keep track, he said ok just come back tomorrow I have a girl for you laugh gave him a tip and he and his guys walked me and Karen out to a taxi which I didn't need and could have walk because the apartments are near. Fucked the shit out of Karen right in the shower and turn demon when I get her on the bed and it was nice tight and so wet and get her ass too and dam she was loud, but that's what I wanted. She hung out on the balcony in just a towel. Drinking I fuck that boosie out of her now she was down to earth and really a sweet super cute girl.

Day#4 Just hung around the apartment but next door had a gang of guys that was loud that all spoke Spanish and told me I was loud too they hear that girl we all just laugh. Told them I'm off to go jet ski.

They told me bad idea, bad water come with us to good blue water, so I did. Had a great time lots of sexy women and nice blue water don't remember the name take a boat to get there.

Next 2 days hung around fucked some chicas right around the apartment 10-15 always was hanging around every day in the some spot. Ready to visit again next month.

Kmac22
08-21-21, 16:07
I've been reading some of these trip reports and I'm confused. Are some of you guys really paying these chicks 700,000 and 800,000 k cop. I've been to Cartagena at least 5 times now the latest being in June and never paid more than 300,000 and that's when I'm pulling chicks out of the club. I give the clock tower chicks 200,000 to 250,000. Depending on the time of night we end up falling asleep anyway and they spend the night, if I smash again in the morning I'll tip her 50,000 to 100,000 k but sometimes they don't even ask I just to do it out of kindness. I would never agree to that price for the whole night if I didn't do a st session first because you never know how well she will perform and now she's looking for the 800,000 k you promised her even if she only stays for one hour.

Negotiate for ST first and then if you want her to stay all night offer her 100,000 to 150,000 more. These girls are robbing you guys blind.

The Tall Man
08-21-21, 16:46
This story is very sad. Two weeks ago I messaged a pimp that I know from my previous trip for some pictures to see what the talent was like for our upcoming trip. This girl was was one of the first he sent me. When I asked him about her yesterday he said she was killed.Sad yes. I read the details on a Facebook group page as it was being discussed.

I read the article, sad, such a pretty girl. Her father and other family members swore that no she was not involved in sex work or drugs, right.

RIP and prayers to the family and friends.

The Tall Man.

Dublin12
08-21-21, 17:46
Wednesday, I signed up for the Chiva Party Bus tour. I didn't enjoy it. I jumped ship at the clock tower and the whole scene there was night and day from Tues. 10:30 PM and the plaza was jumping. No cops and a lot of girls. Openly negotiating with dudes like me. I got a couple of opening bids of 250 k. When I balked, they said 200 was the lowest they would go. I hung out a while checking out the talent. If I had been more patient I would probably have succumbed and paid the 200 k. Only something told me that these girls would not live up to the price tag. I ran into Michelle again and made the mistake of not repeating. I had dreams of bigger and better fish, fool that I am. Instead of going for personality, I went for looks. And was disappointed. The one I found was willing to go with me for 100 k. Then back in the room she tried to say we had agree on 100 USD. I reminded her exactly of the conversation. She then asked for 50 k more, and I told her to leave. Then she said, It's Ok, and we began to go at it. But once again, I failed to set the rules up ahead of time and paid the price. Little friend was covered for the BJ and she was not great at it. When we moved on to other things she was texting while we were in the middle of the act. I couldn't sustain it and she knew it. She told me just to finish on her belly. I just wanted her out of there, so that's what happened. She mentioned a few times the need to pay her 50 k more, and I told her she was dreaming. She left after receiving a text that must have been her next date. Live and learn, I keep telling myself. Off to Barranquilla today. I see there is little in that section here on the Forum, so I want to see for myself what is going on in the land of Shakira.A frequent theme of mine is if I find one that ""works" for me, I keep them. Especially as when I used to change frequently, I so often had the same experience wishing I had kept last night's girl on staff.

However, reading about No 2, you can't expect them to treat you like you are the man of their dreams, but you would expect some effort on her part. Personally, if it had been me, I would have given her the cab fare as soon as she started playing up about $100. My experience is that those who will try to scam you, will invariably perform poorly.

Mojo Bandit
08-21-21, 17:55
This story is very sad. Two weeks ago I messaged a pimp that I know from my previous trip for some pictures to see what the talent was like for our upcoming trip. This girl was was one of the first he sent me. When I asked him about her yesterday he said she was killed.


Two of my Dolce girls confirmed she use to work in there and was into drugs allot and they thought it she offed herself.I have seen a couple of these posts on Facebook, as I have attached below. Some chicas that frequent Cartagena posted these images claiming the girl was murdered. But it could just be drama.

The whiole situation is kind of weird.

The parts of the story that indicate something odd are that the family talked like they knew the girl was seeing this guy, and that is not typical of a working girl transaction thing, I am not saying that she was not a working girl, I am saying that it does not seem to be how she came to be in his apartment, but the most suspicious part is, if this is the guy they say it is, he was known to have confessed to killing one person already, so that is one that we know of, so my questioning attitude is asking this: What are the chances of coincidence that this chica picked a known murderers apartment to commit suicide in?

Dublin12
08-21-21, 18:13
A Colombian jail would even be worse!I remember a few years ago, reading a story of a woman in Colombia who had seven children, six of which were daughters. Apparently as soon as the daughters reached certain (under) age, she sold their virginities for the equivalent of $200 US, and it all came to light when the last daughter complained to the police and there then follows the story in the papers complete with mugshot etc.

Looking in the comments section, of the first 19 comments from Americans, 16 stated "Columbia" rather than "Colombia". I remember thinking at the time, "Would I really want to take advice on how to deal with the issue from people who were so uninformed, that even though they see the correct name of the country, still can't copy it down correctly.

There are typos, and there is ignorance. Anyone can make a typo, but that will not stop the ignorant from giving their opinions on a whole host of problems for which they are nowhere near qualified. That is said without any disrespect to the person who posted the typo in this particular thread.

Dublin12
08-21-21, 18:47
Here is what looks like a some more detailed reports about the incident, as of the writing of this article it looks like the police have not actually called it a homicide yet.

According to the story in Semana, which has his mug shot picture from California, this guy had previously be sentenced to do 24 yrs in California Im trying to figure out how he got out of the country after that

https://www.semana.com/nacion/articulo/la-misteriosa-muerte-de-laura-melissa-caraballo-montano-en-exclusivo-sector-de-cartagena/202115/

https://www.eluniversal.com.co/sucesos/feminicidio-o-suicidio-la-misteriosa-muerte-de-una-mujer-en-bocagrande-AA5211741

Here is the story about him being sentenced in the US
https://www.commercial-news.com/news/local_news/condon-receives-24-years-in-idoc/article_fd282de8-b7ed-11ea-a5cb-fbb217464bfb.htmlI googled Condon and the mugshot is actually from Il and not CA.

What I am having trouble with is that this is supposed to be a man serving 24 years without parole in an Illinois prison, and yet I can find no mention of him in the US press linking him to this crime, or that he escaped, or questioning how he is currently in Colombia. That suggests to me that the IL Condon is unlikely to be the same one mentioned in Cartagena.

By my calculations, Condon was aged 18 or 19 when the Il murder occurred. Yet it is claimed that he paid a bribe of $5 mill to get out of prison in the US. What are the chances of a teen having that much money to begin with?

Whether there was a murder or not, there is something wrong with what I've read so far. What would normally happen in a story like this, is the Colombian press would have contacted the media in Danville IL to sell the story to them, and the failure to see any mention of the story in the US press makes me think there is no connection.

Then there is this: https://www.inmateaid.com/inmate-profiles/christopher-condon-2495632 which though undated, does show him to be currently in custody.

Dublin12
08-21-21, 19:09
I have seen a couple of these posts on Facebook, as I have attached below. Some chicas that frequent Cartagena posted these images claiming the girl was murdered. But it could just be drama.

The whiole situation is kind of weird.

The parts of the story that indicate something odd are that the family talked like they knew the girl was seeing this guy, and that is not typical of a working girl transaction thing, I am not saying that she was not a working girl, I am saying that it does not seem to be how she came to be in his apartment, but the most suspicious part is, if this is the guy they say it is, he was known to have confessed to killing one person already, so that is one that we know of, so my questioning attitude is asking this: What are the chances of coincidence that this chica picked a known murderers apartment to commit suicide in?That really is a highly improbable scenario as you suggest. But right now, based on my previous post to you, I am inclined to believe that the Condon shown in the pic, is not the same person as the occupier of that room. If it were, I think it would not have just made headlines in Illinois, but almost certainly nationally. How does a man supposedly serving a 24 year sentence in the US with still over 20 years of hos sentence left to do, appear in Cartagena (notwithstanding the $5 mill USD bribe allegation), and the media are not looking for answers?

Mr Enternational
08-21-21, 19:33
I've been reading some of these trip reports and I'm confused. Are some of you guys really paying these chicks 700,000 and 800,000 k cop. I've been to Cartagena at least 5 times now the latest being in June and never paid more than 300,000
Negotiate for ST first and then if you want her to stay all night offer her 100,000 to 150,000 more. These girls are robbing you guys blind.LOL. You have 3 posts here and have that much sense. Kind of defeats the purpose of mongering in the 3rd world if you are going to pay 1st world prices. Badass GFE from Tinder just left here in Bogota for 150,000 2 hours. She did not count the money or time. I think the guys are robbing themselves blind.

Dublin12
08-21-21, 20:17
I've contacted the journo who covered Condon's sentencing hearing, https://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/courts-police-fire/danville-man-who-admitted-fatally-stabbing-bar-owner-in-2018-gets-24-years/article_3f9835e1-c608-5128-a0af-2e39695df0b5.html and she has made enquiries and confirms that Condon is currently in custody in Illinois.

As I suspected, this is definitely a case of mistaken identity. Either someone has used Condon's ID, or there is another Christopher Condon totally unrelated to the person shown in both the news item above and the Semana article. Either way, Semana's story is journalism of the sloppiest kind.

Trvllvr58
08-21-21, 20:53
I think it would be better if you negotiate with a girl here in Cartagena, I don't see any point in bringing a girl from Cucuta, when there are many to choose from here, I can help you with that, so you don't worry about being robbed or something like that, just send me a PM.OnFireBoy. Sent you a PM. Hope to hear from you.

ElPapi
08-21-21, 21:26
LOL. You have 3 posts here and have that much sense. Kind of defeats the purpose of mongering in the 3rd world if you are going to pay 1st world prices. Badass GFE from Tinder just left here in Bogota for 150,000 2 hours. She did not count the money or time. I think the guys are robbing themselves blind.Agreed. I was in Cartagena in March and got the girl for 300 k-450 k for the whole night and I normally give them 50 k tips if they are very friendly and cooperative. Girls will always ask for more but a bit negotiation they drop the price.

Nypher
08-21-21, 22:04
Its Friday, another rinse and repeat. Started off the day texting new chicas to come over for a pool party. 150 mil for 1 polvo if the guys want to, they agree. One of the girls showed up with an extra friend who was a little chubby where they pull the pants up past their belly button to hide the stomach but cute in the face. So I let her in just to see how she gets down. We start playing Twister and Just Dance, order food, playing in the pool. They start doing their Instagram stories taking pictures of the food and drinks next to the pool. I'm like cool, one of my boys grabbed the chubby chick an another for a trio and my other friend and I split the other two. Everyone handle their business and send the girls on their way.

Off to big Exito by the bank to restock the beer. No Corona. No Stella. Tons of Heineken, Michelob Ultra and the local beers. We al looked at each other like fuck no and walked over to the other other large Exito by the fancy mall, no Corona, no Stella, just local beers in cans. We call it quits and decide to do a little shopping and head back to the apartment. I text another girl to come for a quick session for 200 mil. In the middle of my session my boy runs over and knocks on my door yelling "Yo they shooting outside, is it safe or we got's to go! So I stop, open my door and listen for a second and tell him its just fireworks, relax. He insists its gunshots so I tell him "Bro, you from Brooklyn, you hear gunshots all the time in the 30+ years you lived there. I know its your first time in Colombia but a gunshot sounds the same no matter what country you are in, their guns are not shooting in Spanish down here" then I close my door and continue my session. Send the girl on her way and decide to go get something new.

We decide to walk around along the wall and enter from the Clock tower side so he can see what it looks like on a Friday night. Tons of girls, lots of guys negotiating, I see a single police car with flashing lights and another familiar face from Sosua. Lo and behold I happen to look at his shirt and it says (Paradise Lyfe) and that's when it all clicked and I realized that Sosua travel group is here and we need to make moves now. My boy wants to go back to Delirium, I tell him no we need to do Space tonight. He insists on Delirium. I explain to him, many of these Sosua mongers are old, out of shape, over weight men, the steps they have to walk up to get into Space will be a good deterrent to keep most of them out so you won't be constantly rubbing up against beer bellies. Meanwhile one of my regular chicas posts a stats on Whatsapp showing that she's in space. I ask her "Are there any fat black big belly guys in there" she says "no but not many girls, the girls will come after 10. " Ok cool. We start walking toward the discos and I see about 7 cops surround 4 chicas asking for papers, looks like they are really cracking down on the immigrants because they have been going on almost every night since I got here. Now we are on the Delirium street side an about to make the left to get to the Dolce / Space side and this girl stops me and we get to talking with her little English and my little Spanish but she was cute as fuck, my boy decides to keep walking straight, and walk right into Delirium. I did the biggest face palm my brain shook. I start walking over to Space and text him telling him to do what you need to do over there and meet me in Space. 20 minutes later he walks in Space mad as hell and I already knew why so I just joked and asked how did those beer bellies feel rubbing against his back. He starts ranting "We got these fat ass mongers in there who look like their primary purpose in life is to take up as much space as possible. They have the beer bellies and the man purse but they put the man purse in front of the beer belly taking up even more space. Then they sweating so crazy they got hand towels over their shoulders or wash cloths on top of their heads constantly wiping sweat from their face. " I didn't want to tell I'm "I told you so" so I just told him play the field and grab something quick before the ones who can make it up the steps get here.

My other boy already got something and they are just getting beers drinking. I'm still looking. One girl walks in, sees me, comes over kiss me on the cheek and disappears into the crowd, a few minutes later another girl comes in and does the same thing, then another comes and does the same. My friend saw this from by the bar and comes back and ask why all these girls kissing you. I let him know these are my new chicas, I've been fucking them on a rotation during the day before he landed. Hes surprised at how many they were. I explained to him these same girls in the discos that are telling everyone 600 mil+ are all 150 mil for me during the day and they are more fun in the day time. My friend see something he like, approaches her and comes back mad as hell. Turns out she turned him down saying "No negros", but took his whatsapp number number anyway. I tell him "Ok, cool, get another one." He's pissed so I have to explain to him the culture is different down here, he is accustom to moreno or morena but down here the language is negro or negra which is just the name of the color in Spanish. Ight hes cool now, and the girl starts sending him a few pics of other girls who are her friends and she says they will do negro. He sees one he like, picks it and she shows up to the club in 5 minutes. I on the other hand see nothing and then a train of guys come in and goes straight to the VIP area (shout out the guy rocking the black and gold Versace outfit with the included matching hand purse and flip flops). Then in comes one of the beer beer belly guys with the man purse in front of the beer belly. That's my que to leave.

On the way out a chica who I know who only operate on Tinder was coming in with a monger and he goes straight to the VIP (I don't know why he would bring non disco chicas into a disco when many of these Tinder girls have boyfriends and don't want to be seen as a working girl. Bad for the monger because the BF can come after him and bad for the girl because the BF can hurt her). She starts texting me she don't want to be here but he's her client and he wants to be here and hes paying allot. More power to him and his pockets I guess, but I tell her once she gets the smoke smell out her hair to come see me.

I get outside and and see this hot short chick with a CardiB twisted face and approach her with "Hola, Que te Pasa". She smiles, tell me her price 300 mil por hora and 600 mil la noche. I counter with 200 mil la noche and 400 mil la noche. She responds back with "No, I'm Colombian and Colombians charge more". Oops I guess I started off the introduction wrong by using Venezuelan dialect and she's Colombian, but then it hits me, I've been with this chica before but I don't remember her face because I mostly hit it from the back. So I take off my mask and she yells out "Oh tuuuu, pene rico!" and she agrees to my price but I tell her later I want to try something new. I get a random slim girl coming out the club, 19 years old, only been working for 4 months and only 6 months in Colombia. I skip all the small talk and lead with "200 mil, una polvo, vamos!" she goes back across the street talk to her friends then comes back and counter with 300 mil. I counter with 200 mil + taxi she agrees and its off to the apartment to continue the fun.

Mojo Bandit
08-22-21, 01:10
I've contacted the journo who covered Condon's sentencing hearing, https://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/courts-police-fire/danville-man-who-admitted-fatally-stabbing-bar-owner-in-2018-gets-24-years/article_3f9835e1-c608-5128-a0af-2e39695df0b5.html and she has made enquiries and confirms that Condon is currently in custody in Illinois.d.


But right now, based on my previous post to you, I am inclined to believe that the Condon shown in the pic, is not the same person as the occupier of that room. If it were, I think it would not have just made headlines in Illinois, but almost certainly nationally(notwithstanding the $5 mill USD bribe allegation), and the media are not looking for answers?


I googled Condon and the mugshot is actually from Il and not CA.

Yet it is claimed that he paid a bribe of $5 mill to get out of prison in the US. What are the chances of a teen having that much money to begin with?

Then there is this: https://www.inmateaid.com/inmate-profiles/christopher-condon-2495632 which though undated, does show him to be currently in custody.Outstanding work Mr Holmes!, because of the Semana mis reporting I had been focused on Danville California and I did go so far as to look up his name in the California inmate database, which confused me even more when his name was not listed. LOL.

That part about the 5 million dollar bribe was over the top, I thought beacuase I had read that he had a 5 million dollar bail bond that maybe possibly he was from some wealthy family that had posted his bond and he ran, so the Colombain reporters were calling it a "payoff" but then I could not find anything in the news about that and surely the journalist who followed his court story would have made a bid deal out of that and I could not find anything.

What you have discovered means that these irresponsiblle media like "Semana" are feeding the greiving family a false narrative. They really are peices of shit. I do not know enough about Colombian media to know if there are reputable news organizations.

Kc Talent
08-22-21, 01:15
I've been reading some of these trip reports and I'm confused. Are some of you guys really paying these chicks 700,000 and 800,000 k cop. I've been to Cartagena at least 5 times now the latest being in June and never paid more than 300,000 and that's when I'm pulling chicks out of the club. I give the clock tower chicks 200,000 to 250,000. Depending on the time of night we end up falling asleep anyway and they spend the night, if I smash again in the morning I'll tip her 50,000 to 100,000 k but sometimes they don't even ask I just to do it out of kindness. I would never agree to that price for the whole night if I didn't do a st session first because you never know how well she will perform and now she's looking for the 800,000 k you promised her even if she only stays for one hour.

Negotiate for ST first and then if you want her to stay all night offer her 100,000 to 150,000 more. These girls are robbing you guys blind.No they are not robbing anyone. Please post a few photos of the girls you are pulling out of Club Dolce for 300,000. Hell you have 3 whole post no photos but now claim you're a great negotiator and we are being robbed, or is it you are just getting bottom of barrel with low performers. Surely you not getting top lookers and performers out of Dolce. I didn't see a girl in Dolce that I would not have paid 500,000 to for TLN and if it's she is my type pretty, fat ass and big tits with cute feet and a freak I will pay 600,000 or even 700,000 COP since I don't do ST and a curfew with me they earn every COP and more. I show respect treat them well and in the end I win and feel happy not robbed. Each his own and waiting to see your post with Photos.

JoeRoc
08-22-21, 01:19
Fellas,

I will be making my second trip to Cartagena on Sep 2nd, and I'm trying to find a restaurant in Bocagrande that serves grilled lobster.

Kmac22
08-22-21, 02:58
No they are not robbing anyone. Please post a few photos of the girls you are pulling out of Club Dolce for 300,000. Hell you have 3 whole post no photos but now claim you're a great negotiator and we are being robbed, or is it you are just getting bottom of barrel with low performers. Surely you not getting top lookers and performers out of Dolce. I didn't see a girl in Dolce that I would not have paid 500,000 to for TLN and if it's she is my type pretty, fat ass and big tits with cute feet and a freak I will pay 600,000 or even 700,000 COP since I don't do ST and a curfew with me they earn every COP and more. I show respect treat them well and in the end I win and feel happy not robbed. Each his own and waiting to see your post with Photos.Yes, I'm a long time lurker but I am not a novice to our hobby. First you need to understand that you are dealing with working girls and the amount you pay has no bearing on the performance you may receive. Second, you are in Cartagena, Colombia and beautiful girls from all over Colombia come to work and make money in Cartagena, there is no shortage of beautiful women and the majority of them will go home at the end of the night without a client. Third, a lot of the time the girls will test you to see if your green or if you really know the game so they will throw out a ridiculous number like 700,000-800,000 to see if you know what your doing.

On my last trip in June I had a chica come over from Tinder she was actually right next door from where I was staying and she saw me before going in and out of my place so she knew where I was. She knocked on my door one of my friends opened it and she was a knockout, as close to a 10 as I've seen. We talked for a little bit, I called her a stalker LOL but when we started negotiations she said her price for TLN was 200 USD. I laughed because I thought she was joking but she insisted that was her price. My friend was telling me to take her and pay it since she was so gorgeous and I'm not hurting for money. I declined and she left. I went back on Tinder and 45 minutes later I had another knockout at my door who was just as good looking and I negotiated 300,00 for TLN. We ordered food, chilled in the pool, smoked, drank, danced and fucked the night away. I gave her a 50,000 tip and sent her on her way. Turns out the $200 girl came back to my spot with someone in my group the next night for 350,000 pesos which was even too much IMO, that extra 50,000 should be a tip if she performs well.

Long story short, they are playing you and yes robbing you blind. You have 78 post and somehow with all the information available to you in this forum you are somehow paying working girls 800,000 in Colombia. No chica in Colombia is worth that much for one night.

Mojo Bandit
08-22-21, 03:18
No they are not robbing anyone. Please post a few photos of the girls you are pulling out of Club Dolce for 300,000. Hell you have 3 whole post no photos but now claim you're a great negotiator and we are being robbed, or is it you are just getting bottom of barrel with low performers. Surely you not getting top lookers and performers out of Dolce. I didn't see a girl in Dolce that I would not have paid 500,000 to for TLN and if it's she is my type pretty, fat ass and big tits with cute feet and a freak I will pay 600,000 or even 700,000 COP since I don't do ST and a curfew with me they earn every COP and more. I show respect treat them well and in the end I win and feel happy not robbed. Each his own and waiting to see your post with Photos.I have been going to Cartagena for 12 years and have given at length reports and if you are pying over 250 k COP you are giving to the Chica Prepago Charity Trust Fund. Nobody needs to post any photos of any chicas they paid 300 k for because even that is too much unless you are getting some extras. The most anyone should be paying for TLN is 400/500 k. I personally could give a shit less if you want to pay 600/700 k for TLN but to come on here and argue that you are paying more because other guys are getting ugly chicas does not pass the smell test. You are paying way over scale and coming on here and scolding someone who is paying the price that should be paid.

Anyone who reads the forum thoroughly would no this already, there is a bunch of guys who pay way more than other guys and if you want to give to the Chica Prepago Charity Trust Fund that is fine by me, I don't hate on people that overpay, but do not be down on someone who is not going to overpay, there are chicas that I think are very attractive that you might not think.

Bellow are chicas I paid each 200 k and spent an hour with one, about two hours with a couple of them and one stayed all night. I took all these photos, I didn't pull them off of a social media site. Are they going to wind a miss universe contest, maybe not, but diffent tastes for different people and thy looked as good as anything else in the clubs that night

Surfer500
08-22-21, 03:48
Arrived Friday night to meet up with one of my Chicas I'm staying with at Dann Hotel.

Nice place, and after dinner on Saturday around 9 PM I took a stroll around the neighborhood in Laguito by myself and there were walkers out.

A few of them quoted 200 K with no specifics, but I know it could be a lot less than this as they were not beauty queens.

NRandom940
08-22-21, 05:39
I have been going to Cartagena for 12 years and have given at length reports and if you are pying over 250 k COP you are giving to the Chica Prepago Charity Trust Fund. Nobody needs to post any photos of any chicas they paid 300 k for because even that is too much unless you are getting some extras. The most anyone should be paying for TLN is 400/500 k. I personally could give a shit less if you want to pay 600/700 k for TLN but to come on here and argue that you are paying more because other guys are getting ugly chicas does not pass the smell test. You are paying way over scale and coming on here and scolding someone who is paying the price that should be paid.

Anyone who reads the forum thoroughly would no this already, there is a bunch of guys who pay way more than other guys and if you want to give to the Chica Prepago Charity Trust Fund that is fine by me, I don't hate on people that overpay, but do not be down on someone who is not going to overpay, there are chicas that I think are very attractive that you might not think.

Bellow are chicas I paid each 200 k and spent an hour with one, about two hours with a couple of them and one stayed all night. I took all these photos, I didn't pull them off of a social media site. Are they going to wind a miss universe contest, maybe not, but diffent tastes for different people and thy looked as good as anything else in the clubs that nightI get much hotter in Bogota for 60 k.

I was with hot identical twins for 200 k LOL.

SteelDh
08-22-21, 07:15
Keep them off their phones once you closed the deal.

Here's a little lesson for the newbies. My friend flew in Tuesday for a few days, first time in CTG. Last night he wanted to go to Delirium to check it out because he saw a youtuber posting videos inside the club and he liked it. I told him repeatedly he did not leave NYC on a 5 hour flight out of America to do the same shit when he could stayed his ass at home and do it. He insisted so I said fuck it let him learn.

He goes in, I wait outside. He's texting me back like a kid in a candy store. I warn him be cool and state your price but he goes and asks how much, all the girls are telling him 700 mil or 800 mil for the night. After 5 minutes of this I say enough and I go in to get him and whatever girl he's haggling the price with. He points out the girl, I call her over and tell her 400 mil for the night 2 leche she refuse and stick to 800 mil. I take off my mask so she can see me smiling when I tell her "I have options over in Dulce and we out. " She recognizes me from one of her friends whatsapp status and says I know her amiga and she then agrees to the 400 mil with "listo". Cool, I tell my boy we out, to grab my chica from Dulce but he wants to be hard headed and stay in the disco and drink and dance with the girl. I tell him, "we not here for that, do that in the apartment, you are not here no impress anyone, no one cares how much you are spending on drinks, or how good you can grind, we need to go now. " he decides to stay..The absolute most I've ever been quoted in Delirium or Dulce was 350 mil or whatever the equivalent of $100 is. I've been to Cartagena 7 times since 2019 last trip being in June and and upcoming trip scheduled for Nov. Is this the new price we should expecting?

Xpartan
08-22-21, 08:37
I get much hotter in Bogota for 60 k.

I was with hot identical twins for 200 k LOL.Cartagena is more expensive than Bogota and for a good reason. Beautiful, world class historic city on a beach (shitty beach, yes, but still). It feels like a resort. Does Bogota feel like a resort? I actually like Bogota, but I believe I'm in minority.

And 60 K you paid. Was it for 20 or 30 minutes? Not for a full hour, anyway.

MongerHunger
08-22-21, 09:00
Arrived Friday night to meet up with one of my Chicas I'm staying with at Dann Hotel.

Nice place, and after dinner on Saturday around 9 PM I took a stroll around the neighborhood in Laguito by myself and there were walkers out.

A few of them quoted 200 K with no specifics, but I know it could be a lot less than this as they were not beauty queens.You can always find chicas in El Laguito at night in that same area on Calle 1 B. Down from Edificio Nuevo Conquistador on the same side of the street.

MongerHunger
08-22-21, 09:11
When I first started visiting Cartagena I use to stay in Centro within the walled city not far from the clock tower. Now I have been staying near the beaches in Bocagrande, El Laguito or Castillogrande. All areas have excellent choices to stay near the beach. I have been to Tierra Bomba Island several times and want to go to Baru. You can always use Cartagena as a jump off point to other destinations and better beaches. I like the feel of Cartagena near the beach and the clock tower is a quick 8 k-9 k taxi ride away.

Dublin12
08-22-21, 09:26
Outstanding work Mr Holmes!, because of the Semana mis reporting I had been focused on Danville California and I did go so far as to look up his name in the California inmate database, which confused me even more when his name was not listed. LOL.

That part about the 5 million dollar bribe was over the top, I thought beacuase I had read that he had a 5 million dollar bail bond that maybe possibly he was from some wealthy family that had posted his bond and he ran, so the Colombain reporters were calling it a "payoff" but then I could not find anything in the news about that and surely the journalist who followed his court story would have made a bid deal out of that and I could not find anything.

What you have discovered means that these irresponsiblle media like "Semana" are feeding the greiving family a false narrative. They really are peices of shit. I do not know enough about Colombian media to know if there are reputable news organizations.Your own investigations were heading in the right direction. I find that when reading these stories, the thing to do is to look for what should be in the story, but isn't. Whether someone bribed his way out of prison or escaped, this is surely a story where the US media would have been reporting, but they weren't.

There are three main revenue streams for the media: Advertising. Cover price if it is in print. Wire service. With the last of these you can probably presume quite safely that the local paper in Danville IL will have been notified but not having the resources to send a reporter, will have covered the story by using local "stringers". This would have been a big story at least in IL, and with possible undertones of serious corruption, would have been covered by many of the US media. The journo that I emailed was not even aware of the story which tells me that Semana knew the story was fake and never put it on the Wire Service, or tried to sell the story to those who would be obviously interested, starting with the IL Media. It was the failure of the US media to write about this, that got my antenna twitching.

Dublin12
08-22-21, 09:35
Outstanding work Mr Holmes!, because of the Semana mis reporting I had been focused on Danville California and I did go so far as to look up his name in the California inmate database, which confused me even more when his name was not listed. LOL.

That part about the 5 million dollar bribe was over the top, I thought beacuase I had read that he had a 5 million dollar bail bond that maybe possibly he was from some wealthy family that had posted his bond and he ran, so the Colombain reporters were calling it a "payoff" but then I could not find anything in the news about that and surely the journalist who followed his court story would have made a bid deal out of that and I could not find anything.

What you have discovered means that these irresponsiblle media like "Semana" are feeding the greiving family a false narrative. They really are peices of shit. I do not know enough about Colombian media to know if there are reputable news organizations.Your own investigations were heading in the right direction. I find that when reading these stories, the thing to do is to look for what should be in the story, but isn't. Whether someone bribed his way out of prison or escaped, this is surely a story where the US media would have been reporting, but they weren't.

There are three main revenue streams for the media: Advertising. Cover price if it is in print. Wire service. With the last of these you can probably presume quite safely that the local paper in Danville IL will have been notified but not having the resources to send a reporter, will have covered the story by using local "stringers". This would have been a big story at least in IL, and with possible undertones of serious corruption, would have been covered by many of the US media. The journo that I emailed was not even aware of the story which tells me that Semana knew the story was fake and never put it on the Wire Service, or tried to sell the story to those who would be obviously interested, starting with the IL Media. It was the failure of the US media to write about this, that got my antenna twitching.

Dublin12
08-22-21, 09:41
Fellas,

I will be making my second trip to Cartagena on Sep 2nd, and I'm trying to find a restaurant in Bocagrande that serves grilled lobster.No shortage on Google.

Kc Talent
08-22-21, 10:07
Yes, I'm a long time lurker but I am not a novice to our hobby. First you need to understand that you are dealing with working girls and the amount you pay has no bearing on the performance you may receive. Second, you are in Cartagena, Colombia and beautiful girls from all over Colombia come to work and make money in Cartagena, there is no shortage of beautiful women and the majority of them will go home at the end of the night without a client. Third, a lot of the time the girls will test you to see if your green or if you really know the game so they will throw out a ridiculous number like 700,000-800,000 to see if you know what your doing.

On my last trip in June I had a chica come over from Tinder she was actually right next door from where I was staying and she saw me before going in and out of my place so she knew where I was. She knocked on my door one of my friends opened it and she was a knockout, as close to a 10 as I've seen. We talked for a little bit, I called her a stalker LOL but when we started negotiations she said her price for TLN was 200 USD. I laughed because I thought she was joking but she insisted that was her price. My friend was telling me to take her and pay it since she was so gorgeous and I'm not hurting for money. I declined and she left. I went back on Tinder and 45 minutes later I had another knockout at my door who was just as good looking and I negotiated 300,00 for TLN. We ordered food, chilled in the pool, smoked, drank, danced and fucked the night away. I gave her a 50,000 tip and sent her on her way. Turns out the $200 girl came back to my spot with someone in my group the next night for 350,000 pesos which was even too much IMO, that extra 50,000 should be a tip if she performs well.

Long story short, they are playing you and yes robbing you blind. You have 78 post and somehow with all the information available to you in this forum you are somehow paying working girls 800,000 in Colombia. No chica in Colombia is worth that much for one night.I have seen and read lots of information on this forum about prices and feel I have my head wrapped around that information very well. I recall most post stating they paid up to 250,000 K for ST and others state and list 500-600,000 K Cop for TLN. I don't understand where you are getting I pay 800 K COP, surely nowhere in my post but I did pay one lovely lady 700,000 K COP which is only 2 more of these 50's over the 600 I saw was list IN THIS forum for TLN. Plus, as you can see in my post as I explain I get all 3 holes all night and I have no issues to pay 600,000 K COP. Here is the reason why I don't mind, Been working in Sosua and around the DR for years and I go to Tijuana too much 3 hole cost $175-225 not TLN. Hong Kong Club in Tijuana $100 USD 30 Min. CBJ with 2 position and don't touch the tits. Now I must be in Colombia for work too so I don't pay air fare or apartment out of my pocket just fun with sexy chica my type my cost my expense and like I said they really earn every COP and in the end I win and have a big smile on my face. I think you guys trying to educate new people to the forum and let them know about the price you pay is a great thing. For me, I would not care or give a shit, if you are paying $1 USD not my business I'm going to do me and pay what I want so see no robbery here nor am I green I'm putting big dick in pussy and asses in South American and love it.

Dublin12
08-22-21, 10:40
I have been going to Cartagena for 12 years and have given at length reports and if you are pying over 250 k COP you are giving to the Chica Prepago Charity Trust Fund. Nobody needs to post any photos of any chicas they paid 300 k for because even that is too much unless you are getting some extras. The most anyone should be paying for TLN is 400/500 k. I personally could give a shit less if you want to pay 600/700 k for TLN but to come on here and argue that you are paying more because other guys are getting ugly chicas does not pass the smell test. You are paying way over scale and coming on here and scolding someone who is paying the price that should be paid.

Anyone who reads the forum thoroughly would no this already, there is a bunch of guys who pay way more than other guys and if you want to give to the Chica Prepago Charity Trust Fund that is fine by me, I don't hate on people that overpay, but do not be down on someone who is not going to overpay, there are chicas that I think are very attractive that you might not think.

Bellow are chicas I paid each 200 k and spent an hour with one, about two hours with a couple of them and one stayed all night. I took all these photos, I didn't pull them off of a social media site. Are they going to wind a miss universe contest, maybe not, but diffent tastes for different people and thy looked as good as anything else in the clubs that nightNice collection in the 200 k bargain shop.

Reading through these posts on prices on this forum, I realize that pricing in Colombia is a bit different from TH. There you will often be able to pick up a girl without discussing a price, though if you happen to be a regular in a bar, they will know from the bargirl gossip how much you pay. But if you do decide to broach the subject in advance, girls will often say, "Up to you". I have a theory about this which is basically, these girls are so impoverished, that they don't want to price themselves out of a job and rely on the decency of the customer to do the right thing. I suppose that if like myself, you do your mongering in perhaps a few bars where you are well known to the staff, if you are a cheapo, the word also gets around in those bars, and girls will not give you the "Up to you" a la carte menu.

Conversely, in Colombia it seems that the mentality is, "I (or someone I know) was paid 500 k yesterday. Maybe I should ask for that as a negotiating point, but I will still have my minimum of (say) 150 k which I will not go below. Who knows? He might be stupid? Or I might be lucky? Or he might be a genuinely generous man? Let the negotiations begin". So it strikes me that the attitude in Colombia is that they have little real fear of pricing themselves out of the market, as all initial demands are purely an opening bid. To those who have posted on this subject, I am grateful for that insight you have given me.

Regardless, I do think the tone of the conversation is improper, especially the implication that if you pay "dog prices", a dog is what you will get. Certainly the collection you posted is free from any canine content. I remember being particularly drunk in Pattaya one night, and with my beer goggles on a I ended up with a woman who was aged 42, though she looked about 30. I never asked her age before the pick-up. As the evening wore on and her make up disintegrated, her age was clearly showing. Eventually, it was back to the room and it was the greatest experience I ever had. The experience was a "10". Up until that time, Pattaya was an ego trip for me. Whenever I took a girl out for the evening to Walking Street, I was always looking around to see if anyone had a better looking girl than I had, and very few did. Of course, I learned from that experience how stupid it was to want to bed "9's and 10's" who might give a "6. 5", experience. The real prize was a "10" experience.

Just my opinion, but the real value is not whether the girl is a beauty queen that looks like a female Ferrari, but how well she can take you from 0-100.

Kc Talent
08-22-21, 11:18
I have been going to Cartagena for 12 years and have given at length reports and if you are pying over 250 k COP you are giving to the Chica Prepago Charity Trust Fund. Nobody needs to post any photos of any chicas they paid 300 k for because even that is too much unless you are getting some extras. The most anyone should be paying for TLN is 400/500 k. I personally could give a shit less if you want to pay 600/700 k for TLN but to come on here and argue that you are paying more because other guys are getting ugly chicas does not pass the smell test. You are paying way over scale and coming on here and scolding someone who is paying the price that should be paid.

Anyone who reads the forum thoroughly would no this already, there is a bunch of guys who pay way more than other guys and if you want to give to the Chica Prepago Charity Trust Fund that is fine by me, I don't hate on people that overpay, but do not be down on someone who is not going to overpay, there are chicas that I think are very attractive that you might not think.

Bellow are chicas I paid each 200 k and spent an hour with one, about two hours with a couple of them and one stayed all night. I took all these photos, I didn't pull them off of a social media site. Are they going to wind a miss universe contest, maybe not, but diffent tastes for different people and thy looked as good as anything else in the clubs that nightNot scolding no one. He Posted his post talking about over paying after my post so I feel he was address for me, he should have made it plan it was information for newbies and I'm not new or green and I do me. I would not give a shit if you guys was all paying $1 USD none of my business I pay for looks and performance and of course that ass and no ST. Now, the photos are all girls I have fucked the last one is her WhatsApp photo we met through Tony at the beach 600.000 K cop. Hey, that lovely chica in the purple is a winner super nice. PM me her name and contact and yes she will get 6-700,000 K COP from me to. Since you have so much free time to help with everything including the investigation death of a local girl. Understand we crossed a border be careful what you stick you nose in.

Dublin12
08-22-21, 11:31
I am currently sitting at home in Dublin awaiting my PCR test and if all is clear, I will (again) be trying to make my Migform application again with a view to being in Cartagena by Tuesday evening.

I've been keeping a close eye on the CV figures from Colombia, and yesterday, they fell below 3 k cases for the first time since July of last year. In Ireland yesterday, they reported 2100 cases, which is the highest figure since Jan this year. Ireland still has some of the toughest restrictions on the planet. Since it's peak on June 26th, the rate of daily new infections has fallen 92% in Colombia, while the infection rate in Ireland is per capita about 4. 5 X higher than in Colombia. As far as I am aware, what social safety net there is Colombia, is very limited, while Ireland is rated as one of the best in the world. To give you one example of this, those employees who had to be furloughed from their jobs received 350 per week ($400 USD), though this is about to be cut to 300. During the meantime, Colombia has managed to keep tourism open, though there have been restrictions. Ireland is 73% fully vaxxed. Colombia, 24%. New infections in Colombia have been declining at the rate of 30% a week since the peak of June 26th. With the exception of "new deaths", Colombia is outstripping Ireland favourably on just about every metric.

That leads me to wonder how Colombia has managed to achieve so much success with all it's disadvantages, compared to Ireland with all it's advantages? Any ideas or explanations?

Dublin12
08-22-21, 12:14
I pay for looks and performance

Since you have so much free time to help with everything including the investigation death of a local girl. Understand we crossed a border be careful what you stick you nose in.I tend to agree with Mojo, that your original premise that people were paying less than you was because they were only getting dogs (my interpretation and not what you actually said) does not really seem a valid explanation. But if you are negotiating prices in advance, how do you know what performance you will be getting? Of course if you are taking about "tips" after the fact, I would presume that this would be in the region of say 50-100 k, which still leaves you paying substantially above the typical payment "up front". Don't get me wrong. I don't criticise your generosity, only your reaction to those who might be critical of you. This is an open forum, and you should know that anything you post renders you liable to criticism. Personally, I am delighted to read of anyone who does not think the whole reason for his posting is to show how tough he can be in maximising his return from a girl. Your generosity is admirable, but that only applies if it is generosity as opposed to naivety.

I thought your final two sentences were somewhat strange It looks like there is an implied threat there, and yet earlier, you are asking the poster to PM you with a girl's details. Do you really think that is the way to go about getting people to do you a favour? That is notwithstanding the fact that as I suggested earlier, that any posts that are made here renders the poster liable to criticism.

Nounce
08-22-21, 12:15
I don't understand where you are getting I pay 800 K COPI think he does not specifically mean you. There is another post before your post mentioned 800 K.


Here is the reason why I don't mind, Been working in Sosua and around the DR for years and I go to Tijuana too much 3 hole cost $175-225 not TLN. Hong Kong Club in Tijuana $100 USD 30 Min. This is Colombia and that is why.

Mr Enternational
08-22-21, 15:18
Plus, as you can see in my post as I explain I get all 3 holes all night and I have no issues to pay 600,000 K COP. Here is the reason why I don't mind, Been working in Sosua and around the DR for years and I go to Tijuana too much 3 hole cost $175-225 not TLN. Hong Kong Club in Tijuana $100 USD 30 Min. CBJ with 2 position and don't touch the tits.And there lies the problem. So had you gone to London and it was $1000 or gone to Thailand or Philippines and it was $30, what would either have to do with Colombia?

I just went online and searched for Kopi Luwak coffee. The website has it as $399 per pound marked down from $449 per pound. In the states you buy this coffee. When you get to Indonesia and someone tries to sell you this coffee for $200 per pound, woo hoooo. You are really happy to be getting a deal. Thing is though, that when I was in Indonesia I bought this Kopi Luwak at the grocery store for literally $5 per pound.

I was putzing around in Bogota with another board member last night. We were about to leave the area when he saw a chick that he wanted to take home. She was with her female pimp. She wanted 500K for all night. I told her bullshit. 200K. So finally I make the deal that she will go back to his place for 100K for 1 hour. Me, him, her, and the pimp all got into a taxi and went to his place. Me and the pimp stayed outside then I left and went to my hotel. He hit me a few minutes ago saying the girl just left and he gave her 200K. So she ended up staying all night for way less than that 500K bullshit they first tried to pull.

Surfer500
08-22-21, 16:36
I checked into the Dann Hotel with a Chica forty years my junior on Friday afternoon. At the same time while checking in there appeared to be a Mother and son, a very young guy maybe 23 with a woman at least 20 years older who weren't Colombians, but I think from Spain as they spoke Spanish, who checked in to the Hotel with Passports.

Over the last two days I realized this was not a mother and son on vacation, but a woman monger as they where one happy couple frolicking around the pool. It was quite obvious that I was a monger with a young thing in tow, but this was a little more subtle.

I don't have much experience in Cartagena, so perhaps women mongers are more common here. The only other time I have seen other women mongers is in the DR.

Makes me wonder if there is an ISG for women.

GrownMan1
08-22-21, 17:32
I just went online and searched for Kopi Luwak coffee. The website has it as $399 per pound marked down from $449 per pound. In the states you buy this coffee. When you get to Indonesia and someone tries to sell you this coffee for $200 per pound, woo hoooo. You are really happy to be getting a deal. Thing is though, that when I was in Indonesia I bought this Kopi Luwak at the grocery store for literally $5 per pound.
.Some dudes are going to pay what they want to pay regardless as long as they can afford it. IMO Getting a deal is not the priority. Their main concern is getting who they want and how they want them. My friend is like that here in Cali. Instead of paying 80,000 pesos (30 minutos) for a chica in house; he rather pay 450,000 pesos to take her back to his room for TLN. After explaining to him in dollars the price difference; I saw it didn't matter. I was like cool do what you want you can afford it. If both parties feel that it's a even swap there is no swindle.

It's a big difference if a man does not know the current market value for the product he's buying. That's when the bullshit kicks in and the criticism is warrant. Your man was Lucky you were there to make sure he didnt get gringo taxed. Even though if he would have paid the asking price it wouldnt have broke his bank.

Recently I wanted to buy a Lexus SUV. The average price locally was about $22,000 for the car I wanted to purchase. My max was $25000. I noticed in Atlanta they were more selections and the average price was $16,000. There are some guys That will be content to spend $22,000 because they are within in their budget. Then there are People like me who will take the 2 hour fly time to Atlanta for $200 and get a deal on the model they wanted for $15,500.

Needless to say some people concentrate on looks and others are more interested in was underneath the hood. In this game the valance can fluctuate depending on the timing, chica, budget, and individual perspective.

NRandom940
08-22-21, 17:39
Cartagena is more expensive than Bogota and for a good reason. Beautiful, world class historic city on a beach (shitty beach, yes, but still). It feels like a resort. Does Bogota feel like a resort? I actually like Bogota, but I believe I'm in minority.

And 60 K you paid. Was it for 20 or 30 minutes? Not for a full hour, anyway.30 minutes.

I like Bogota better than Cartagena. Cartagena is too much of a tourist trap type of place with people harassing you to buy some stupid bracelets every time you walk down the street. Or giving you a tour that you never asked for and then asking for money.

In Bogota, you can just relax and blend in.

Kafka
08-22-21, 20:20
Because lockdowns don't do anything except the way they inevitable?


I am currently sitting at home in Dublin awaiting my PCR test and if all is clear, I will (again) be trying to make my Migform application again with a view to being in Cartagena by Tuesday evening.

I've been keeping a close eye on the CV figures from Colombia, and yesterday, they fell below 3 k cases for the first time since July of last year. In Ireland yesterday, they reported 2100 cases, which is the highest figure since Jan this year. Ireland still has some of the toughest restrictions on the planet. Since it's peak on June 26th, the rate of daily new infections has fallen 92% in Colombia, while the infection rate in Ireland is per capita about 4. 5 X higher than in Colombia. As far as I am aware, what social safety net there is Colombia, is very limited, while Ireland is rated as one of the best in the world. To give you one example of this, those employees who had to be furloughed from their jobs received 350 per week ($400 USD), though this is about to be cut to 300. During the meantime, Colombia has managed to keep tourism open, though there have been restrictions. Ireland is 73% fully vaxxed. Colombia, 24%. New infections in Colombia have been declining at the rate of 30% a week since the peak of June 26th. With the exception of "new deaths", Colombia is outstripping Ireland favourably on just about every metric.

That leads me to wonder how Colombia has managed to achieve so much success with all it's disadvantages, compared to Ireland with all it's advantages? Any ideas or explanations?

Dublin12
08-22-21, 22:58
Not scolding no one. He Posted his post talking about over paying after my post so I feel he was address for me, he should have made it plan it was information for newbies and I'm not new or green and I do me. I would not give a shit if you guys was all paying $1 USD none of my business I pay for looks and performance and of course that ass and no ST. Now, the photos are all girls I have fucked the last one is her WhatsApp photo we met through Tony at the beach 600.000 K cop. Hey, that lovely chica in the purple is a winner super nice. PM me her name and contact and yes she will get 6-700,000 K COP from me to. Since you have so much free time to help with everything including the investigation death of a local girl. Understand we crossed a border be careful what you stick you nose in.Just got my PCR result, and went with my Plan be and got my Airbnb host to reapply for the MIGFORM. Within half hour I got my reply from Colombia and I will arrive in just over 48 hours from now on my virgin trip.

So I am now looking forward to warm weather, hot women and cold beer. The only thing that is missing to make it the perfect trip is a little bit of info regarding Sports Bars where I can watch the English Premier League, and Bars with live music, particularly pre-80's stuff. All suggestions will be appreciated.

Dublin12
08-22-21, 23:01
Just got my PCR result, and went with my Plan be and got my Airbnb host to reapply for the MIGFORM. Within half hour I got my reply from Colombia and I will arrive in just over 48 hours from now on my virgin trip.

So I am now looking forward to warm weather, hot women and cold beer. The only thing that is missing to make it the perfect trip is a little bit of info regarding Sports Bars where I can watch the English Premier League, and Bars with live music, particularly pre-80's stuff. All suggestions will be appreciated.

Xpartan
08-22-21, 23:43
30 minutes.

I like Bogota better than Cartagena. Cartagena is too much of a tourist trap type of place with people harassing you to buy some stupid bracelets every time you walk down the street. Or giving you a tour that you never asked for and then asking for money.

In Bogota, you can just relax and blend in.Well, touts and the heat are two plagues of Cartagena, I'll give you that.

UnknownGuy
08-23-21, 00:56
Arrived Friday night to meet up with one of my Chicas I'm staying with at Dann Hotel.

Nice place, and after dinner on Saturday around 9 PM I took a stroll around the neighborhood in Laguito by myself and there were walkers out.

A few of them quoted 200 K with no specifics, but I know it could be a lot less than this as they were not beauty queens.I like the scene in Laguito. The chicas I met there were laided back. One even said if you don't want me, maybe you want one of my friends who lives nearby and she proceeds to show us her rodex on her phone.

Surfer500, I just sent you a PM.

Mr Enternational
08-23-21, 01:34
I don't have much experience in Cartagena, so perhaps women mongers are more common here. The only other time I have seen other women mongers is in the DR. Makes me wonder if there is an ISG for women.Ghana, Indonesia, Jamaica, and the list goes on. Women like to fuck the same as men do.

JustTK
08-23-21, 01:46
I am currently sitting at home in Dublin awaiting my PCR test and if all is clear, I will (again) be trying to make my Migform application.
That leads me to wonder how Colombia has managed to achieve so much success with all it's disadvantages, compared to Ireland with all it's advantages? Any ideas or explanations?You know that negv tests are not required for Colombia?

As someone else said, it seems that lockdowns do not do much apart from buy time. They don't get you closer to the end goal, which is to have a resitant population.

I think just about everyone in Colombia has the antibodies by now (exageration, but a big chunk). They have 3 separate waves without vaxes. A large proportion of the vulnerable people are dead, either from the virus, or dead before the virus arrived. Countries such as Vietnam, NZ, Aus, Norway etc. They closed down the borders completely and lived in their caves for a year. But now they are vulnerable with a population that has no resistance. They need to vaccine rolled out pronto, but even then, the virus can pass thru vaxd people. It is here to stay.

Another point to bear in mind is that people in most rich countries have the good fortune to have their life prolonged by medical treatments. These people would be dead in poor countries. But these people are alive but in poor health. They are the mass majority of the victims of covid.

NeilGeorge
08-23-21, 01:50
Recently I wanted to buy a Lexus SUV. The average price locally was about $22,000 for the car I wanted to purchase. My max was $25000. I noticed in Atlanta they were more selections and the average price was $16,000. There are some guys That will be content to spend $22,000 because they are within in their budget. Then there are People like me who will take the 2 hour fly time to Atlanta for $200 and get a deal on the model they wanted for $15,500.What do you do when you have problems with the car? A lot of people will fly to Colombia for plastic surgery or dental work in Mexico because it is cheaper. But what do you do with the cheap dentures that do not fit well? No dentist in your town will want to adjust something made cheaply in Mexico. Sometimes its best to buy locally. Women are the same. Of course we all know of the benefits of global thinking and travel.

UnknownGuy
08-23-21, 02:04
Lo and behold I happen to look at his shirt and it says (Paradise Lyfe) and that's when it all clicked and I realized that Sosua travel group is here and we need to make moves now. Oh I just read about that thing a few days ago. Turns out they in Cartagena for this weekend and they had a flyer for Delirium meetup on Friday night!! I hope they're not there when I go in a month.

JoeRoc
08-23-21, 02:29
No shortage on Google.Would've been easier for you to not respond at all.

GrownMan1
08-23-21, 02:34
What do you do when you have problems with the car? A lot of people will fly to Colombia for plastic surgery or dental work in Mexico because it is cheaper. But what do you do with the cheap dentures that do not fit well? No dentist in your town will want to adjust something made cheaply in Mexico. Sometimes its best to buy locally. Women are the same. Of course we all know of the benefits of global thinking and travel.I respect your point you may however; Buying the same car for a cheaper price issues not the same as buying cheaper service and product for a cheaper price.

Mojo Bandit
08-23-21, 02:36
Arrived Friday night to meet up with one of my Chicas I'm staying with at Dann Hotel.

Nice place, and after dinner on Saturday around 9 PM I took a stroll around the neighborhood in Laguito by myself and there were walkers out.

A few of them quoted 200 K with no specifics, but I know it could be a lot less than this as they were not beauty queens.If you do not want to answer this on the thread I understand and if you know the answer and do not want to post it then a PM would be appreciated, it is something would be a nice backup plan if my usual arrangements were booked up. I read on two occasions that the Dan Carlton is at some level chica friendly. Can you get the straight dope while you are there, I know you said you brought your own chica so it would not affect you. It seems like this would have been widely known if it was true. Back a few years ago when La Dolce Vita was in that little shopping center right across the street from the Dan Carlton that would have been a mongers paradise- Playa Hollywood on one side and La Dolce Vita right outside on the other. I think that it would have been wider known then if it was in anyway chica friendly. What I mean by "at some level" is that there are some places where chicas can come in during the day but not at night, some places will allow a chica if you pay a fee, etc.

I pulled a chica off that very street in your photo last trip (further down nearer to the Hilton), she was a 7, very average, and in texting her she settled for 125 k but I sort of tricked her. I had seen her when I was on my way to meet another chica in the Old City and she seemed kind of desperate, so I took her number, then later when I texted her I told her I paid 150 but I only did citas with chicas that did anal, I knew she would back out of doing anal wen she arrived, so I had her settke for 125 k. Back in the day there was a whole pack of chicas that lived in Edificio Atlantis and I used to get them for 100 k but again they were nothing to post photos about. Last trip also there was a pack of Vennies that hung out on the sidewalkin the area betweenTorre Marina and Mirador del Lagutio which is on that same side of the street but further down around the corner about 5 buildings before the Hilton. There were guys hanging out talking to them everytime I saw them and I might not have even known they were working except the chica from Manga that I hooked up with told me.

Mr Enternational
08-23-21, 02:47
What do you do when you have problems with the car? A lot of people will fly to Colombia for plastic surgery or dental work in Mexico because it is cheaper. But what do you do with the cheap dentures that do not fit well? No dentist in your town will want to adjust something made cheaply in Mexico. Sometimes its best to buy locally. Women are the same. Of course we all know of the benefits of global thinking and travel.Then you are pretty much fucked. Learned that the hard way recently. Chick I used to mess with in Barranquilla is a dentist. She did my braces for $800 at the end of June. When I got back to the States one of the brackets had come off. I went to an orthodontist and he would not touch them. He said they do not touch other people's work. He did seem surprised that they were speed braces. I don't know shit about braces. I really just got them so she could make money during bad times. When I got to the car I looked it up and speed braces are like the most expensive kind and they self-adjust. A friend said she paid $9,000 for her daughter's braces in the States. In comparison the $800 I paid was a really good deal, but does not mean shit if you have no way to get the adjustment or repair.

So I was on my way to Dominican Republic and had one of my chicks make an appointment in Santo Domingo to get now 2 brackets cemented back on. Went up there for the appointment and same deal: we don't touch other people's work. MF she told you it was other people's work when she made the appointment. So she called her friend who is a dentist in her small town and I drove 3 hours there and he charged me $35 to cement them back on.

Mr Enternational
08-23-21, 02:51
Oh I just read about that thing a few days ago. Turns out they in Cartagena for this weekend and they had a flyer for Delirium meetup on Friday night!! I hope they're not there when I go in a month.Too late. They already "fixed" the prices for you.

Mojo Bandit
08-23-21, 03:26
Ghana, Indonesia, Jamaica, and the list goes on. Women like to fuck the same as men do.I was told while I was in Thailand some of the working girls in Thailand take their earnings they make off the farang and give it members of this little subculture of "pretty boys" in the same way as if they were gigalos. These are the guys are not gay and are not ladyboys but they may wear some makeup and some work as models or presenters at the malls etc, These aren't even older women.

UnknownGuy
08-23-21, 03:27
Too late. They already "fixed" the prices for you.LOL. What they do / did won't affect how I move. Hope they didn't mess things up too bad for others though.

Mojo Bandit
08-23-21, 04:03
Nice collection in the 200 k bargain shop.

, "Up to you". I have a theory about this which is basically, these girls are so impoverished, that they don't want to price themselves out of a job and rely on the decency of the customer to do the right thing. I.I have no doubts that what you say about them being impoverished is true, I literally had a girl I picked up at soi cowboy bacarra pass out in my hotel room. She had said was Hungary and had not eaten in two days. I offered to feed her before we even went up to the room, but she said no she would grabs something from the convienience store (I was offering to feed her a a dinner in the hotel restaurant and she was so used to pinching pennies she preferred some crappy 7-Eleven food. I was staying in a decen hotel with a great restaurant, it was the Majestic Grande back then and later became a Double Tree). Anyway after she passed out from low blood sugar at first I was sweating it because I was not sure that is why she passed out but then she kind if came to and said this happens sometimes when she does not eat for a while. I ordered french fries from room service and a smoothie so she could have enough sugar in her blood to make through our session and get to the 7-Eleven. Another girl I hooked up with in Patong Beach (gorgous best endowed in the chest Thai girl you ever saw) and she said she was hungry and this time I just said "we are going to eat first" took her to an all night breakfast joint at the end of Bangla near the mall and she ate a lot of food, which was fine with me becuase our session turned into an all nighter and she needed the energy.

Mojo Bandit
08-23-21, 04:21
Since you have so much free time to help with everything including the investigation death of a local girl. Understand we crossed a border be careful what you stick you nose in.Why is it exactly that I need to be carelful?

Kafka
08-23-21, 04:57
These American sex tours will be the end of the scene in Colombia. Its offensive to the local eyes.

SoberHans69
08-23-21, 07:28
I was told while I was in Thailand some of the working girls in Thailand take their earnings they make off the farang and give it members of this little subculture of "pretty boys" in the same way as if they were gigalos. These are the guys are not gay and are not ladyboys but they may wear some makeup and some work as models or presenters at the malls etc, These aren't even older women.This is true, there was one on Soi Lengkee if I remember correctly and more on third road.

Surfer500
08-23-21, 14:01
If you do not want to answer this on the thread I understand and if you know the answer and do not want to post it then a PM would be appreciated, it is something would be a nice backup plan if my usual arrangements were booked up. I read on two occasions that the Dan Carlton is at some level chica friendly. Can you get the straight dope while you are there, I know you said you brought your own chica so it would not affect you. e.I don't know if the Dann Hotel is chica friendly. I didn't see any other mongers coming in and out with girls but may have missed them. What I do know is that have quite a staff at the entrance to the place, so no way to really sneak anyone in. Most of the clientele seem to be tourists, versus single older farts staying there. The Hotel may have a joiner fee for bringing girls in, maybe they don't. I'm sorry I don't know and another poster sent me a PM asking the same question. I did find a hotel for a friend though who came down with me named Habitaciones con vista al Mar on booking.com which had an ocean view room for thirty five dollars a night directly across the street from the attached photo. I helped him check in. They didn't even want to see his Passport, and after dark no staff, no nobody, so perfect bringing girls in and out, yet not having security might be problematic.

As far as the girls working the streets in the Lagito area, total bullshit. Lots of ugly sharks asking 300 K, my friend took one for 150 K and no blow job, and lots of rules.

Cartagena is not a mongering friendly place in my opinion. Way overpriced than the rest of the Country. For me I was holed up with a Nympho, eating seafood dinners, body surfing, and hanging by the pool. For a guy looking just to do some hardcore mongering, I don't recommend Cartagena. But for some guys, depending on how they roll, it might perfect.

Tomasb
08-23-21, 17:21
I have heard that women mongerers, especially from Europe, go to various locales in Africa. I knew an older American women, who was in her late sixties at the time, who journeyed to Africa for that very purpose and had a "high" success rate. She was an attractive woman in her prime but by that age, gravity prevailed. It also surreptitiously done in a lot of third world countries in Latin America but doubt there is sufficient volume for a site such as this to survive. Correct me if I am wrong as that would be a humorous site to read.


Ghana, Indonesia, Jamaica, and the list goes on. Women like to fuck the same as men do.

Mr Enternational
08-23-21, 18:49
Cartagena is not a mongering friendly place in my opinion. Way overpriced than the rest of the Country. Exactly why I never returned for mongering after the first time. Surprising that Cartagena is even way more expensive than San Andres (from a tourist aspect.).

AmorPorFavor
08-23-21, 19:05
I don't know if the Dann Hotel is chica friendly. I didn't see any other mongers coming in and out with girls but may have missed them. What I do know is that have quite a staff at the entrance to the place, so no way to really sneak anyone in. Most of the clientele seem to be tourists, versus single older farts staying there. The Hotel may have a joiner fee for bringing girls in, maybe they don't. I'm sorry I don't know and another poster sent me a PM asking the same question. I did find a hotel for a friend though who came down with me named Habitaciones con vista al Mar on booking.com which had an ocean view room for thirty five dollars a night directly across the street from the attached photo. I helped him check in. They didn't even want to see his Passport, and after dark no staff, no nobody, so perfect bringing girls in and out, yet not having security might be problematic.

As far as the girls working the streets in the Lagito area, total bullshit. Lots of ugly sharks asking 300 K, my friend took one for 150 K and no blow job, and lots of rules.

Cartagena is not a mongering friendly place in my opinion. Way overpriced than the rest of the Country. For me I was holed up with a Nympho, eating seafood dinners, body surfing, and hanging by the pool. For a guy looking just to do some hardcore mongering, I don't recommend Cartagena. But for some guys, depending on how they roll, it might perfect.CTG is a great destination for guys like me who want to monger and have a regular type tourist vacation. Especially if you like a warm ocean to have fun in and a historic city to tour with good restaurants and night life. And don't give a shit about paying an extra $30 to fuck hot sexy girls. The beach in CTG does suck but its a beach with warm water and I swam in it every day. You can drive or take boats to really nice world class beaches too.

Dublin12
08-23-21, 20:00
Ghana, Indonesia, Jamaica, and the list goes on. Women like to fuck the same as men do.I was in Sihanoukville, Cam in one hotel I stayed in there was a quite attractive Swiss woman, who would come down to breakfast every morning with two completely different Khmers. I was in the hotel for 5 days, so her score was at least 10 men in that time. Also in Snooky, I saw an Aussie couple picking up bargirls, and a few days later bumped into them in Phnom Penh, with a girl I had seen them with in Snooky.

The Gambia is also well known for women mongers. I saw a TV doc about some of these and recall a Welsh woman in her late 40's who married a Gambian aged about 25. She was terrified to tell him that he she'd had a hysterectomy so she couldn't have kids. I remember thinking, "Once he get's his 'leave to remain' stamp in his passport (you have to be married a year to a UK national to get it), I don't think he will wait around to ask why he isn't yet a daddy".

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08-23-21, 21:05
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Dublin12
08-23-21, 21:31
I have no doubts that what you say about them being impoverished is true, I literally had a girl I picked up at soi cowboy bacarra pass out in my hotel room. She had said was Hungary and had not eaten in two days. I offered to feed her before we even went up to the room, but she said no she would grabs something from the convienience store (I was offering to feed her a a dinner in the hotel restaurant and she was so used to pinching pennies she preferred some crappy 7-Eleven food. I was staying in a decen hotel with a great restaurant, it was the Majestic Grande back then and later became a Double Tree). Anyway after she passed out from low blood sugar at first I was sweating it because I was not sure that is why she passed out but then she kind if came to and said this happens sometimes when she does not eat for a while. I ordered french fries from room service and a smoothie so she could have enough sugar in her blood to make through our session and get to the 7-Eleven. Another girl I hooked up with in Patong Beach (gorgous best endowed in the chest Thai girl you ever saw) and she said she was hungry and this time I just said "we are going to eat first" took her to an all night breakfast joint at the end of Bangla near the mall and she ate a lot of food, which was fine with me becuase our session turned into an all nighter and she needed the energy.I am not sure if your actions were purely altruistic, but I admire your humanity.

Brother P
08-23-21, 22:07
These American sex tours will be the end of the scene in Colombia. Its offensive to the local eyes.What exactly are you referring to bro?

NeilGeorge
08-23-21, 22:25
You can drive or take boats to really nice world class beaches too.Never had a good experience with either. When I got to the island of Baru I was mobbed by vendors who knew well what times the boats would arrive, worse than in Laguito. When I took the launch, fast boat, to the island immediately off Laguito I was offered a fish meal and charged 10 X what it should have cost, and then they would not take me off the island unless I paid, embarrassing to be there with a girlfriend from MDE and she just stood by and let them charge me ten times. Girl was bad news too.

BlackThought
08-23-21, 22:35
And there lies the problem. So had you gone to London and it was $1000 or gone to Thailand or Philippines and it was $30, what would either have to do with Colombia?

I just went online and searched for Kopi Luwak coffee. The website has it as $399 per pound marked down from $449 per pound. In the states you buy this coffee. When you get to Indonesia and someone tries to sell you this coffee for $200 per pound, woo hoooo. You are really happy to be getting a deal. Thing is though, that when I was in Indonesia I bought this Kopi Luwak at the grocery store for literally $5 per pound.Same. I did the poop coffee tour in Bali. I didn't buy it from there as it was overly priced, but bought some at the Denpasar airport store for super cheap. Coffee is meh.

Mr Enternational
08-23-21, 23:17
What exactly are you referring to bro?Big organized groups going there to monger. Yeah it is legal, but it is not something to be reveled and all out in the open. You see how it turned out for Cuba Dave. Keep quiet and do your business in the shadows.

Nypher
08-24-21, 00:27
So on Friday when everything clicked and I realize we need to plan accordingly to put as much distance between us and the Sosua mongers so we don't get into any bullshit of girls trying to over charge us because other guys are willing to pay double. While were back in the apartment with the chicas I say "we need distance, time for the boat to get away from the nonsense for a day. " I call my guy, he sends pictures of the boats, 3 boats available, $350, $600, and $1200. Cool, I show my boy since its his first trip to CTG, ill let him pick the boat. He goes for the $1200 boat, again, trying to explain to him, that's a boat that seats 20+ people, beds, air conditioning, and bathrooms. We don't need all of that, because its only 3 guys and 3 girls and if we pay in pesos it will be about 500 mil split 3 ways if we take the smaller boat. He insists on the $1200 boat, so I say "fine, we over here are fine with the $350 boat, if you want the $1200 boat we will give you $200 each to be generous and you can pay the difference. " Now he kind of understand and lowers to the $600 boat. My boy and I look at each other and say fuck it its only $200 each no big deal. I confirm with my guy and tell him we need the boat Saturday as early as possible so we can get to the islands early and have maximum time on the water he says 8 am is the best he can do and the boat will meet us at the Clock Tower port, I say "no, I want to take the boat from the marina in Manga because less vendors and less annoyance" he says he can only do the Clock tower. Ok, cool. Deals done.

I text one of chicas and ask her if she wants to go but she have to sleep over tonight, she's cool with it she only ask that I pay for her round trip taxi which was 40 mil. Cool. My other boy text a chica she wants 300 mil for the day 1 polvo, hes cool with it. Now comes the newbie, the chicas he's texting are telling him 800 mil for the day, 1 polvo. So I ask him "how the fuck are they charging you so much and they know you?" he responds back with "These are new girls that he was just getting numbers from to get with later" Another hard facepalm! I explain to him that he needs to get girls who hes been with before as if they like you they will be with you for a lower price or even free rather than overcharge you and just tolerate you all day on the boat. He gets it, sort of, and text back the chicas he was with earlier in the week, one of them agrees to 300 mil for the day with oral only, he agrees (I didn't want to tell him she only want to do oral only because she wants to keep it tight and undamaged so she can work immediately after we get back). We have the current chicas leave and start getting our things together while we wait for the boat chicas to show up to which they show up almost 2 am. Cool, they take their chicas back to their room to do whatever, my chica stays in the living room with me to play a drinking game for some time.

-Saturday.

I wake up at 6 am. Knock on everyone door trying to get everyone up and out the door because we also need to buy beers, ice, and snacks for the boat. Everyone gets up, an hour passes my boy and I are in the living room with our chicas ready to go, Titos on deck. The newbie is still in his room with his chica, I go in there to get him but his chica starts walking toward the door so I'm thinking hes behind her so I turn around back to the living room. Its now 7:30 am hes still in his room, so I yell out "Everyone already gave me the $200 to pay the guy, we on the boat with or without you, we need to go now!" he comes out his room diamond earrings in his ears, hair all done, , designer shirt, fancy pants, smelling like he took a bath in cologne and Yeezys. My friend and I look at each other in confusion as we are in plain white Tee's, with swimming trunks under our cargo shorts, and wearing water shoes. He then says "I can't with this man, hes extra, extra. " Fuck it, I don't have time to explain it to him, we out.

We get out there, start shopping for ice, beers, snacks and cups. My guy says he will meet me in the store because he does not want me pulling out that much money at the dock as the vendors are will hound us. Fine he gets to the store, I pay him and he helps with the bags to the dock. The boats already there, the newbies eyes lights up like a kid on Christmas. I pay the dock tax which was confusing as hell because some random guy came up to me and said I need to pay an additional 57,000 COP the gave me this long piece of paper but then I realize it was 9500 per passenger on the boat. Ok cool. Here's 60 mil keep the change, I don't have time and don't want coins in my pocket. I turn around and the hat guy is trying to sell the newbie a hat, he pulls out his money, then bam! They all surround him, they trying to sell him sunglasses, the water proof neck strap thing, etc. He insists he wants the hat and pays 80 mil for it. I start laughing because his hat cost more than the dock tax. Ok everyone is one the boat and were off just a little after 8 am.

Suddenly I realize the boat isn't going the right direction, and we are pulling into the same marina I wanted to leave from. I ask what's up, they have to gas up the boat. The newbie starts asking tons of random questions about why they gassing up the boat on our time and the boat should have been fully ready before coming to get us. I explain to him (things are different down here, they are not going to pay for a full tank of gas on a promise that gringos will show up with the money to pay for the boat. So they only buy a little gas out of pocket then once they receive payment for the boat they gas up the boat for our use.) he gets it. Fuels done, were off, he put on his hat and starts taking selfies, boat hits full throttle and whoosh, there goes his 80 mil up in the air and in the water. My other boy just shakes his head. We finally get to the first island where everyone snorkels and plenty of boats are already there, everyone is staring at our boat pulling in. Newbie is loving all the eyes watching him. Hes taking selfies, videos, trying to post live updates. I pull him aside and tell him "Look around you, every fucking boat here is smaller than ours and have 3 times as much people, they probably thinking we are stupid for having this big ass boat with no one on it. " Hes starts to understand a little, I think hes getting it now. We all jump into the water to swim except the newbie, hes still up there on the boat taking selfies and posting online. I swim around and tell him "don't bother, you're Verizon, and you're roaming, put your phone in airplane mode and do that later when we are back in Centro or your battery will be finished before we get to Cholon. " he doesn't get it and keeps at it, didn't even get off the boat. Crack open the Titos start the fun! We make it to Cholon, I tell the boat crew we will get off in the water and walk to shore because I didn't want to spend more pesos by using the "free ladder" and they do so except for the newbie, he have the boat crew go up to the shore and uses the "free ladder". My boy looks at me and says "now we know whose going to pay for the ladder for all 6 of us to use when we leave" and starts laughing. Its the newbies first time so we let him pick where to eat, in the water or on the beach, he picks water. Ok cool. Everyone orders 2 items of food and about 2 drinks each. Were eating in the water and food dropping in the water below us, here comes the fish and surely enough his swimming trunks does not have netting inside so they are swimming up his pants so he starts paying more attention to keeping fish out his pants than taking selfies of the food. Ok cool, free entrainment for the rest of us at the table. Bill comes, newbie has to pay the total bill (one person usually pays, split the bill equally and everyone reimburses that person in USD when we are back in the apartment) newbie wants to know why are there 14 food orders on the bill when we only ordered 2 things each. I tell him "don't worry, just pay it, the other 2 orders was for the boat crew, we have feed them, its customary. They are also watching all our shit on the boat to make sure no ne takes it" Ok cool he gets it, he goes to pay by tapping his phone but his battery is dead (guess who didn't put their phone in airplane mode). Now he has to go back to the boat to get his card using the "free ladder" jajaja. He gets the card and swipe not realizing when you use your card on the island they charge a 20% surcharge even though they showed him on a calculator what the total would be. A warning to the swipe happy newbies out there, if you want to avoid that fee, bring lots of pesos because things add up quickly and yes you also have to pay to use the bathroom there.

Foods done, time to leave, everyone goes to use the *free ladder* because we might as well at this point. I tell newbie to give them 15 mil for the ladder. He doesn't get it. I explain to him although the ladder is free they work on tips and since he used the ladder 4 times its only fair to give them 2 mil per use plus a little extra besides its only $4 equivalent. He gets it. Time for water activities, New guy wants to Jetski, I warn him, they are cash only unless you want that 20% surcharge again. He gets it, pulls out a wad of pesos and our boat crew whistles the jet ski guys over. I see where this is going so I negotiate a fair price for 1 hour, they agree, he hops on with his chica and they are off! The rest of us just chill on the boat playing drinking games blasting music and partying. And hour passes, he's no where to be found, another 30 minutes goes by and he comes back. What happened? The jetski stopped working. I ask him "How did you fix it" he responds "he didn't, the banana boat guys saw him stranded and started it back up for him but he had to pay them 50 mil" and starts laughing like its funny. Ok cool, hes cool with it but I'm not. Jetski guys wants more money because he went over the hour. I tell jetski guys "No, your shit stopped working, leaving my guy stranded and he had to pay 50 mil to get it working again. So you will get paid for the agreed the hour minus the 50 mil he had to pay (all this is happening using the translator app). A little back and forth while my other friend who is Panamanian but looks black is fluent in Spanish and is sitting there playing gringo like he doesn't understand and finally out came his Spanish to shut the whole shit down, agreed price minus the 50 mil then he tells them to get the fuck off the boat. Even the chicas that was on the boat with us all day didn't know he spoke Spanish because he was using the translator app with them as well and they went from talking amongst each other constantly to real quiet for the rest of the trip. (he plays gringo to know whos genuine and whose taking advantage, cab drivers especially will talk shit in front of you with your chica while you're in the cab).

Time to head home. The newbie wants to sit on the front of the boat. Ok cool, his funereal. We get to open water and the boat starts bouncing on the waves throwing him in the air like popcorn seeds in a hot frying pan. All the chcias are laughing, and my boy and I just shaking our heads laughing. We get back to the dock, I tip the boat crew 50 mil and we jump in 2 cabs back to the apartment. Let the girls shower off then send them on their way. We have a few hours to rest up and head back out so new guy can charge his phone. Time passed, I give 2 options, we can text girls to come over or take a walk and see what we get. New guy wants to go to Dolce, ok cool. We start walking over and the newbie see a nice brown skin girl with blue eyes, short white shirt and thigh high black leather boots. He runs over to talk to her, and that when I noticed who she is but she don't recognize me. I pull my boy away and explain to him, "This is Isabell, she will charge the fuck out of you for some wack pussy, I've seen her naked and you don't want what under those clothes, I've never touched her but its your pockets" he gets the number and start negotiating, and of course she starts off at $500 USD. We move on to Dolce and of course the prices are starting at 800 mil and we have to haggle. Just then a chica that I've known for a while comes over and warns me to be careful and not have allot of chicas over as there was an incident where some gringos took chicas from Dolce back to the apartment and some of the girls waited until everyone was sleeping and took the gringos money, their watches, and money out of the other working girls purses. I asked her how the hell she knew all this, she said the gringos came back to Dolce to complain so they banded the girls from the club. (I don't know if it was a scare tactic or not) but good to know, I ask her to show her friends to my friends, my friends liked what they saw and we all agreed 400 mil for the night. On our way out one of the girls wanted KFC, passed by and if it didn't have Colonel Sanders standing by the door I would have sworn it was another club. PACKED!! No room to move anywhere, who knew KFC was that good in CTG? We skip it and back to the apartment for for fun into Sunday morning.

Nypher
08-24-21, 00:44
The absolute most I've ever been quoted in Delirium or Dulce was 350 mil or whatever the equivalent of $100 is. I've been to Cartagena 7 times since 2019 last trip being in June and and upcoming trip scheduled for Nov. Is this the new price we should expecting?Mongers are coming in over paying and the girls egos get inflated thinking that every monger should pay that price. As my main dolce chica says, "every girl in Dolce is 800 mil, but as the night goes on and no one is taking watch the price drops drastically".

For instance there is this one girl I saw every night, skinny as a toothpick but have the biggest fake tits and biggest fake ass I've even seen. She look absolutely ridiculous to me and I would never take her ever, but surely enough every night she's walking back with a guy on her arm. What ever her asking price is, someone is paying for it every night.

Mr Enternational
08-24-21, 01:31
So on Friday when everything clicked and I realize we need to plan accordingly to put as much distance between us and the Sosua mongers so we don't get into any bullshit of girls trying to over charge us because other guys are willing to pay double. Man that report was fucking funny. But it is really going to suck when someone copies the entire thing just to say good report.

UnknownGuy
08-24-21, 02:13
Big organized groups going there to monger. Yeah it is legal, but it is not something to be reveled and all out in the open. You see how it turned out for Cuba Dave. Keep quiet and do your business in the shadows.I just saw a post on a group I'm part of, of somebody throwing dollars out their hotel window to the crowd down below in El Centro a couple of nights ago. The minute I saw the video, I pieced together who was throwing the money: The same cats Nypher mentioned that were from Sosua that were in Cartagena for the weekend. They do the same dumb shit in the clubs in Sosua.

Surfer500
08-24-21, 02:49
I just saw a post on a group I'm part of, of somebody throwing dollars out their hotel window to the crowd down below in El Centro a couple of nights ago. The minute I saw the video, I pieced together who was throwing the money: The same cats Nypher mentioned that were from Sosua that were in Cartagena for the weekend. They do the same dumb shit in the clubs in Sosua.Interesting, you say there's a video of somebody throwing dollars out of a Hotel window in El Centro a few nights ago.

Could you post a link to that video.

Throwing out coins versus bills would actually cause much more of a commotion, I say that because they would cover a lot more distance if thrown, would roll all over the place, and everybody would be going nuts chasing after the coins, especially in El Centro as there are tons of people begging for coins.

Kafka
08-24-21, 05:30
Yes, but sex tourism is technically illegal.


Big organized groups going there to monger. Yeah it is legal, but it is not something to be reveled and all out in the open. You see how it turned out for Cuba Dave. Keep quiet and do your business in the shadows.

Xpartan
08-24-21, 06:07
Same. I did the poop coffee tour in Bali. I didn't buy it from there as it was overly priced, but bought some at the Denpasar airport store for super cheap. Coffee is meh.I also tried it at one of those hippy / eco coffee houses in Bali. Don't remember what I paid but it was too much for that shit.

Brother P
08-24-21, 13:35
Big organized groups going there to monger. Yeah it is legal, but it is not something to be reveled and all out in the open. You see how it turned out for Cuba Dave. Keep quiet and do your business in the shadows.Exactly bruh! This lifestyle is supposed to be quiet and discreet.

Drf1987
08-24-21, 16:38
Cartagena as always is Cartagena. Had a great time. Probably saw some of you at the clock tower and had no idea. Have fun boys. I'll be back.

The Tall Man
08-24-21, 17:31
So on Friday when everything clicked and I realize we need to plan accordingly to put as much distance between us and the Sosua mongers so we don't get into any bullshit of girls trying to over charge us because other guys are willing to pay double. While were back in the apartment with the chicas I say "we need distance, time for the boat to get away from the nonsense for a day. " I call my guy, he sends pictures of the boats, 3 boats available, $350, $600, and $1200. Cool, I show my boy since its his first trip to CTG, ill let him pick the boat. He goes for the $1200 boat, again, trying to explain to him, that's a boat that seats 20+ people, beds, air conditioning, and bathrooms. We don't need all of that, because its only 3 guys and 3 girls and if we pay in pesos it will be about 500 mil split 3 ways if we take the smaller boat. He insists on the $1200 boat, so I say "fine, we over here are fine with the $350 boat, if you want the $1200 boat we will give you $200 each to be generous and you can pay the difference. " Now he kind of understand and lowers to the $600 boat. My boy and I look at each other and say fuck it its only $200 each no big deal. I confirm with my guy and tell him we need the boat Saturday as early as possible so we can get to the islands early and have maximum time on the water he says 8 am is the best he can do and the boat will meet us at the Clock Tower port, I say "no, I want to take the boat from the marina in Manga because less vendors and less annoyance" he says he can only do the Clock tower. Ok, cool. Deals done..Absolutely loved reading your detailed experience. Damn what a fricken newbie you got as a friend. But I have been there and done that.

I had planned on boat rental in Cartagena in the past but just the logistics of getting together 5 or 6 guys to share it with was impossible.

Let me know if you or any one else is up to a boat rental and I am all in. I could easily drive up from my home in Medellin and I have 2 or 3 cute fun and beautiful paisa chicas I would bring along as after-all 'sharing is caring'.

The Tall Man.

JoeRoc
08-24-21, 22:48
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ElPapi
08-24-21, 23:28
So on Friday when everything clicked and I realize we need to plan accordingly to put as much distance between us and the Sosua mongers so we don't get into any bullshit of girls trying to over charge us because other guys are willing to pay double. While were back in the apartment with the chicas I say "we need distance, time for the boat to get away from the nonsense for a day. " I call my guy, he sends pictures of the boats, 3 boats available, $350, $600, and $1200. Cool, I show my boy since its his first trip to CTG, ill let him pick the boat. He goes for the $1200 boat, again, trying to explain to him, that's a boat that seats 20+ people, beds, air conditioning, and bathrooms. We don't need all of that, because its only 3 guys and 3 girls and if we pay in pesos it will be about 500 mil split 3 ways if we take the smaller boat. He insists on the $1200 boat, so I say "fine, we over here are fine with the $350 boat, if you want the $1200 boat we will give you $200 each to be generous and you can pay the difference. " Now he kind of understand and lowers to the $600 boat. My boy and I look at each other and say fuck it its only $200 each no big deal. I confirm with my guy and tell him we need the boat Saturday as early as possible so we can get to the islands early and have maximum time on the water he says 8 am is the best he can do and the boat will meet us at the Clock Tower port, I say "no, I want to take the boat from the marina in Manga because less vendors and less annoyance" he says he can only do the Clock tower. Ok, cool. Deals done..Nypher.

Your report was hilarious. I was laughing as I was reading every event that took place with you guys.

AmorPorFavor
08-25-21, 00:05
Nypher.

Your report was hilarious. I was laughing as I was reading every event that took place with you guys.Ya that was one of the best reports ever. You sure know how to roll in CTG.

Kc Talent
08-25-21, 01:10
Why is it exactly that I need to be carelful?Sorry for delay but working in San Jose for this week than Panama city. Weather you know it or not, this site is social media which is also monitor by a few USA agency out of Bogota.

Most of us know what happen to Cuba Dave in Sousa but I would be careful about talking and posting information or thoughts about an ongoing investigation that possible could.
have result in a death committed by a U.S. person outside the USA. The red flag area would be speaking are posting that a conspiracy most have taken place in the USA for the person to have been release by a USA Agency or State Agency as a pay off which alleged a corruption within the USA. This is where I think we need to be careful it could call for a stop order when re-entry to the USA called a no hold debriefing of about 5-10 min. Of who, what, when and how your information or other was obtain along with any other information to support your posting. I have been there as a result of just a motor accident where the person ran into to me and I had to pay his medical cost plus and I complaint how our USA Embassy in the Dominican Republic was shit and was of no help and was a big waste of taxpayers money. The result was a 30 day suspension of my work visa in that country.

Dublin12 suggest the reply to your post," was like a threat" no just what I would not do or talk about with an ongoing investigation in another country concerning a person from the USA And because as he clearly made plain," what you post renders you liable to criticism, " it can also render you to a customs debriefing on USA Soil.

Back to the purpose of this site is for mongering, I plan to be back in Cartagena soon and will continue to do me, so again I kindly ask for the contact of the girl I requested that you posted by a PM. Be good be safe.

Jny88
08-25-21, 06:15
I also tried it at one of those hippy / eco coffee houses in Bali. Don't remember what I paid but it was too much for that shit.I remember in Bali I went on one of those tours to the rice fields, then they took us to a coffee house where they had these animals in cages that looked like mongoose. The person at the coffee place was like the animal eats berries and poops so we turn its poop into coffee, and I was like "ima have to pass on that coffee."

Nypher
08-25-21, 19:22
Sunday comes around. Newbie wants to go out. Its 11 am, I try to explain to him we do not go out in the day time and its better to just chill in the apartment until the sun goes down. We have everything we need here, pool, liquor, beers, kick ass wireless speakers with heavy bass that can link together, girls on instant call and we can Rappi anything we want. He doesn't get it and wants to go out because some bird keeps making noise by his bedroom window all day. My other boy starts laughing and says "chupando webo", Newbie feels some kind of way because he think he was called a dick sucker. I have to explain to him that's what they call the bird that's making the noise down here. He gets it. Cool, then his chica from last night comes out his room. My boy looks him and ask "where's she going?" he responds "with us, I'm keeping her for the day". I try to explain to him this is not DR and why we do not walk around with the chicas and just bring them to the apartment to have fun but he doesn't get it. Ok, he needs to see it to understand.

All 5 of us leave and as soon as we hit the corner where Hotel El Viajero is to turn down to reach the clocktower everyone is approaching him trying to sell him shit, but not us. Hes trying to figure it out but we just laughing. I tell him "you stand out too much, that basketball Jersey with Yankee fitted isn't doing you any favors but you can only learn why we don't do certain things if we let you see it for yourself". We make it to the clocktower and outside the wall where all the vendors are. Lemonade guy is screaming, orange guy is screaming but I only have ears for the Coconut guy! I tell Newbie don't buy any of these juices, my other boy head over and buys pineapple slices and the chica joins him. I snake my way though the vendors to coconut guy as I've been dying for coconut water since Exito stores were out of coconut water since I landed. 5 mil per coconut? Fuck it, give me 4, I need this. Coconut guy took so long to dig down to the bottom of the ice cooler to get the coconuts that when I turned around I see Newbie drinking the damn lemonade. My other boy come over eating the pineapple slices shaking his head and says "didn't you tell him?" I respond back with "I told him not to, but I didn't tell him why he shouldn't. " (for those of you who don't know, they make that juice with mineral water or tap water, most likely its will be tap water. You do not want to drink the tap water here especially when it rains allot). Newbie comes back with 2 lemonades in his hand like he won the lottery, saying "this lemonade is on point! One of these for 2 mil, but he didn't have change so I told him to give me another one and keep the change". His chica comes back and says "Papi Noooo, no bueno!" I couldn't say anything, I got 4 coconuts for 20 mil he got 2 lemonades for 5 mil, hes winning. For now. We make our way around the outside of the wall and I point out the ATM inside Scotia bank. I explain to Newbie they will limit you at 900 mil per transaction but you can do multiple until you hit your daily withdrawal limit you set on your debit card. He gets it, kind of. He goes in and comes out with 2 pockets stuffed like hamster cheeks. I asked him "what's up with your pockets?" he responds "The ATM only gave him 20's", my other boy asked him "how many transactions did you do?" he responds "two. Why?" My boy and I just looked at each other and realized he pulled out a shit ton of pesos but his flight is tomorrow (Monday). Ok we need to empty his pockets so back to the apartment we go. When were walking back to the apartment we walk by allot of people and one of the Colombian men said something in Spanish but the only thing I understood in the whole sentence was "Negro, grande, pene, puta" but I can see in the chicas face that she's bothered by something as her attitude changed and she was being more distant from him. I kind of pieced together what happened and I get it, Newbie doesn't get it. My other boy pulls him aside and tell him when we passed those guys back there one of them made a comment "all you working girls like those big black dicks". Its then he starts to realize people are watching him, especially older Colombian men, then it his him when he was walking with her holding her hand, cab drivers are slowing down rolling down their windows looking at him. (for those of you who do not know, Colombian men do not like foreigners with Colombian women, same as Thailand because many Colombian women do not date Colombian men, when you ask the chicas why, they say Colombian men have no money and the men see the women as "theirs" So we get inside and he looks like he just came out the shower, dripping with sweat, and complaining his throat is itchy. My other boy jokes and says "Yes sir! Thats the COVID taking hold" then I notice he still have the lemonade cup in his hand and hes still drinking the lemonade. The chica is still a bit troubled so I tell her she can go or hang out, her choice. She wants to go I let her out and so she goes. I get back and Newbie is shitting away. He gets it, and now understands why we don't go outside in the daytime, or with chicas, and why we don't drink the damn juices from those carts filled with ice.

We stay inside, the nurse comes to give him his Covid test to return, the bird keeps annoying him so he calls over another chica to party with him. He negotiated for 200 mil for 1 polvo. She comes over and hangs out for about 3 hours. He gets it. He understands. During that time my other boy decides to start cleaning up to get things ready for the night while I try to figure out what to do with all his pesos because we are not hitting the clubs while the Sosua guys are here. Plan was for him to give me the pesos and ill give him dollars, hes cool with keeping the pesos because he will come back next year he says. Ok cool. Time passes and Newbie wants to get a new girl, ok cool, lets go out and do a loop to see what we get.

Newbie finds this one chica but she only wants to be paid in Dollars. He comes running to me wanting to swap pesos for dollars I tell him its foolish to do so and he should pay her in pesos he goes back and looks like they worked it out because she's walking back with him holding her hand. My other boy grabs a new girl works out his deal and I'm left with nothing. I'm looking for something unique but they are all looking the same, clones, clones, clones. Just then someone taps me on my shoulder and says "Puto Negro". Only one person ever calls me that and surely enough I turn around and its this afro-Latina chic I was with a few times earlier in the year but I never told I was coming back. She starts asking me why I never returned her messages, surely enough I check my Whatsapp and she's muted indefinitely along with their status. I told her its because she asked for money once I landed back home. She gets it starts laughing and says same agreement as last time. Ok, cool might as well at this point and were all back to the apartment to party.

Its now about 2 am, everyone already had their first polvo, dancing, playing games and having fun in the pool when my chica is constantly on her phone for the last 5 minutes texting frantically. I'm thinking she's doing business to line up the next gringo for tomorrow so I go over to tell her not on my time, its then she asks for a favor. Can her amiga come over for a few hours until morning. I ask what's wrong and she says there's a problem with a gringo and its best for her to be here, Ok I don't really care we are still under the apartments limit (don't do what I did, never make their problems your problems). Its not 2:30 am everyone sleeping except my chica and I, the girl shows up, my chica goes to get her, the friend comes in crying and mad. I ask what happened (again never do this, their problems are their problems). Using the translator she goes on a emotional rant. According to her" She met a guy coming out the disco, they negotiated for 800 mil la noche dos polvos, she left with him and his friends as there were other girs with them. They got the apartment and she wanted to be paid first but he wouldn't and agreed to pay half now and half in the morning. They did their thing and when he left the room to wash up another guy who wasn't with them enter the room and tried to have sex with her, she told him no and then the original guy came back to the room and told her she has to do it or she won't get paid the rest of the money and if not to give back the money he gave her. So she gave back half the money he gave her and he let her leave. So I ask her "why come here why not go home", she responds "she lives almost 2 hours away and its not safe to travel at this time". I point her to my room told her to shower off and get in the bed. My chica and I are still talking its almost 4 am, Newbie comes out hes having problems with the CheckMig site, it won't let him register for departure. I tell him "don't worry about it, your flight is at 3 pm that's 11 hours from now, you have time" (big fucking mistake on my part and I suggest everyone to fill out the CheckMIG at the first opportunity when your date becomes available).

JoeRoc
08-26-21, 00:43
Sunday comes around. Newbie wants to go out. Its 11 am, I try to explain to him we do not go out in the day time and its better to just chill in the apartment until the sun goes down. We have everything we need here, pool, liquor, beers, kick ass wireless speakers with heavy bass that can link together, girls on instant call and we can Rappi anything we want. He doesn't get it and wants to go out because some bird keeps making noise by his bedroom window all day. My other boy starts laughing and says "chupando webo", Newbie feels some kind of way because he think he was called a dick sucker. I have to explain to him that's what they call the bird that's making the noise down here. He gets it. Cool, then his chica from last night comes out his room. My boy looks him and ask "where's she going?" he responds "with us, I'm keeping her for the day". I try to explain to him this is not DR and why we do not walk around with the chicas and just bring them to the apartment to have fun but he doesn't get it. Ok, he needs to see it to understand.

All 5 of us leave and as soon as we hit the corner where Hotel El Viajero is to turn down to reach the clocktower everyone is approaching him trying to sell him shit, but not us. Hes trying to figure it out but we just laughing. I tell him "you stand out too much, that basketball Jersey with Yankee fitted isn't doing you any favors but you can only learn why we don't do certain things if we let you see it for yourself". We make it to the clocktower and outside the wall where all the vendors are. Lemonade guy is screaming, orange guy is screaming but I only have ears for the Coconut guy! I tell Newbie don't buy any of these juices, my other boy head over and buys pineapple slices and the chica joins him. I snake my way though the vendors to coconut guy as I've been dying for coconut water since Exito stores were out of coconut water since I landed. 5 mil per coconut? Fuck it, give me 4, I need this. Coconut guy took so long to dig down to the bottom of the ice cooler to get the coconuts that when I turned around I see Newbie drinking the damn lemonade. My other boy come over eating the pineapple slices shaking his head and says "didn't you tell him?" I respond back with "I told him not to, but I didn't tell him why he shouldn't. " (for those of you who don't know, they make that juice with mineral water or tap water, most likely its will be tap water. You do not want to drink the tap water here especially when it rains allot). Newbie comes back with 2 lemonades in his hand like he won the lottery, saying "this lemonade is on point! One of these for 2 mil, but he didn't have change so I told him to give me another one and keep the change". His chica comes back and says "Papi Noooo, no bueno!" I couldn't say anything, I got 4 coconuts for 20 mil he got 2 lemonades for 5 mil, hes winning..Keep them coming! I'm learning a lot from your reports.

Lebyteme
08-26-21, 14:51
You do not have to fill out a CheckMig when returning to the States. It is only needed to enter Colombia.

Nypher
08-26-21, 19:54
You do not have to fill out a CheckMig when returning to the States. It is only needed to enter Colombia.Travelers need 3 things to exit Colombia and enter the States.

1. Negative Antigen Covid test.

2. CheckMIG departure filled out.

3. Sign the waiver stating that you have been tested negative for covid.

Without those you will not get through security.

Ill go into further detail when I post the report on what happened Monday with the Newbie was trying to leave without the CheckMig completed then JetBlue kept delaying the flight until they canceled it.

Mojo Bandit
08-26-21, 20:58
Travelers need 3 things to exit Colombia and enter the States.

1. Negative Antigen Covid test.

2. CheckMIG departure filled out.

3. Sign the waiver stating that you have been tested negative for covid.

Without those you will not get through security.

Ill go into further detail when I post the report on what happened Monday with the Newbie was trying to leave without the CheckMig completed then JetBlue kept delaying the flight until they canceled it.This is definitely good-to-know info, looking forward to heareing about the newbie trying to leave without the CheckMig completed, this is something people want to avoid. Thanks.

Kc Talent
08-27-21, 02:48
You do not have to fill out a CheckMig when returning to the States. It is only needed to enter Colombia.Yes you will need to complete the form Check MiG when you get to customs in Colombia. I had that same thought that I didn't need it but they will ask you for it at the time you enter the airport or they will send you to customer service to use the wi-fi to get it before you get to customs. I made that clear in my trip report how I paid the girl in customer service to help me and I got the reply in like 5 seconds. And was on my way to the U.S.A this was departure not arrival from Colombia.

Mr Enternational
08-27-21, 03:07
Yes you will need to complete the form Check MiG when you get to customs in Colombia. I made that clear in my trip report how I paid the girl in customer service to help me and I got the reply in like 5 seconds. And was on my way to the U.S.A this was departure not arrival from Colombia.There is a reason one says arrival and one says departure.

Nypher
08-27-21, 16:57
Sunday night / Monday morning.

Newbie goes back in his room, My chica and I head over to my room. Her friend is knocked out cold in the middle of the bed with her phone in her hand. My chica says to let her sleep cause she had a rough night, so I say "Fuck it, pick a side. " She picks the side closest to the door. (one thing I noticed was the every girl I've been with on this trip, whenever its time to sleep they always picked the side that's closest to the door like they have to be able to run out at any minute). I take the friends phone, turn on the screen and of course as usual, the battery is in the red so I put it on the charger in the living room. (lately all these girls have been showing up with batteries in the yellow or red, doesn't matter time of day so I kept an 5 Port Anker charger in the living room with 5 cables attached iphone / USBC / Micro USB). Walking back to my room I hear Newbies toilet flush, yep, he's still shitting from that lemonade jajaja.

Monday morning comes around, and I hear things being moved around in the bedroom. Its too early for this shit so my eyes are still closed and I blindly move my hand feel whose still in the bed, I'm feeling braids and big tits (my chica), I'm not felling straight hair and small tits (her friend). Its been a long night, I don't want to open my eyes so I just say "Di Mae" she responds "phone". I have no idea how to say living room in Spanish but I do know how to say outside because sometimes you have to tell these chicas its time for them to go so I respond back with "afuera". She gets it, and goes to the living room. I go back to sleep. I don't know how much time passes but now the friend is tapping me and saying "Comida". Again I don't want to open my eyes so I just respond back with "Rappi". She leaves, then my boy comes in "Yo! This chick cooked up a storm out here, you better come get some before its all gone cause its a lot of us" Fine I get up, walk up my chica, we wash up and head to the kitchen, everyone's already eating and she did cook us a slamming breakfast. I realize Newbies girl is still here and its after 9 am. So I ask him "Did you pay her already so she can go?" he responds back with "I paid her last night", I ask "Where the fuck you got dollars from?" he responds "Zelle". I'm confused by this, so I ask "Zelle? Like Zelle Zelle?" he nods his head. So I look at my boy and ask "since when these chicas start taking Zelle payments?" he just shrugs his shoulders and keeps eating like this isn't a new discovery where we can direct pay the chicas instead of taking a loss exchanging money or getting hit with double ATM fees every time we pull out pesos. Its whatever, we will figure that out later I guess. Newbie gets up to put his plate and cup in the sink, his chica stops him and and takes his plate and cup to go wash them, hes shocked by this, so my boy tells him "This is why we don't fuck with American chicks like that and would rather use our money here where we are appreciated instead of tolerated". Newbie starts walking to him room and I realize hes walking funny. So in a joking way I ask "Who fucked who last night cause you look like you got it from the back rough" My chica kind of picks up on it and says "Quarto, duro!" and everyone starts laughing. Newbie says "Naw man, my ass is hurting from that toilet paper". Chances are he was wiping too much with their rough toilet paper and rubbed of some skin on his anus. So I tell my chica to give him her pussy cream, and the rest of her wet wipes and ill give her extra to buy new ones. She agrees and comes back and gives him the stuff, he starts asking random questions "why this say virginial on it? Why do I need wet wipes?" So I have to explain to him down here allot of these girls get injured when working. What happens is that the condom sometimes dry out and starts rubbing against their inner walls and it peals the skin away from their inside, so for them to heal quickly and work again they use that cream as lube so they can work and heal them quicker. Also they don't really use the toilet paper the use the wet naps because the toilet paper sticks in-between their stuff. He gets it.

Breakfast is done, the chicas are getting ready to leave, and just out of curiosity I ask my chicas friend which club was the guy coming from when he approached her. She says Delirium. So I tell her "bullshit happens on both sides in there which is why I don't like going there. Yes you girls can get us black guys to pay more in there but you have to make it clear to them what they can or can't do before you go with them. She responds back with "but your nice. " I tell her "I'm not nice, I just understand, don't use me as an example for all the others I'm just here to represent me, the girls who like being around me will come to me, the ones who want to chase the money will go to them. " Then I explain to her, she wanted 800 mil, he gave her 400 mil, then she had to give him back 200 mil in order to leave so she just got the standard ST rate and lost out on 600 mil because of some bullshit, but if she came to me for the same 200 mil she have right now, she would have been in a more relaxed environment zero bullshit. (the translator app is a little rough but I think she gets it because she responded with an "entiendo") All 4 girls left.

Its now around 11 am, new guy is too busy packing up to complete CheckMIG and clears out his room and out the door by 12 pm to get to the airport. He wants to be there early. I tried to explain to him the airport is only 15 minutes away max, and when you get there they will make you wait outside on a line in this heat, then once you clear the line, bag check, passport control, immigration, and security, you will be stuck in the terminal and you only source of food will be Bukash's dry ass pastries unless you drown them in sauce. He didn't get it and wanted to go. OK Cool, I told him, when he gets there make sure none of those guys grab his suitcase out of the car and bring it to the line or put it on a cart, remember the *free ladder*. He laughed. He still haven't done the CheckMIG yet.

*All this I'm not there to see but I'm hearing from him calling and texting.

He says he got there and the cab driver got out and took his suitcase out the car and told him 20 mil. By the time he found the money to pay for the cab and turned around some guy was already standing there holding his suitcase asking him which airline. So he told them JetBlue, the guy then starts rolling his suitcase to the Jetblue line, They both get there and the guy says "propina" and that when he realized what just happened jajaja. So he gave him 2 mil. Then they made him wait outside, he have no water with him and nowhere you get any from. Then almost 2 hours later it was finally time for them to let them in, the person outside managing the line asked to see his negative COVID test and gave him a paper to sign stating that he tested negative and told him, write your name, check the first box then sign and date the bottom. He gets inside and on the checkin / bag drop line and starts hearing CheckMIG and that's when he remembers he needs to fill it out. Hes trying to do it and it won't go through, apparently everyone is trying to do it last minute and its causing the site problems but he cannot check his bag unless he completes that form. He says lots of people were on the line trying to do it as well and they had to help everyone which took about 30 minutes for him. He then decided not to check his bag because its a carry on size, handed over the form he signed, showed them the negative test and the email from CheckMIG and made it through passport control, immigration, and security. He calls back about 20 minutes later ranting. He wants to shit but because they blocked every other urinal, people are using the toilets more to pee and they look disgusting with pee all over the seats and floor. Then he realize there is only the one store I told him about that sold limited pastries. He figures it out and hangs up. At this time, one of my chicas text me that the big Exito stocked up on baby coronas again so my friend and I went to get a few 6 packs to restock the fridge.

He text me back, his 3:15 pm flight is delayed to 3:40, then delayed to 4:10 pm. Then they changed his Gate, Then they had to deplane, then the delay went to 6:10 pm, then 8:10 pm then it changed to 7 am and he was not having it. He shows back up at the apartment ready to get another chica because he is stressed and want to "relax" OK cool. He's going through his whatsapp list looking for a good one but since he told the girls when he was leaving allot of them deleted him already so he can't see their display picture. He has like 10 girls in his phone all named Paola, I'm trying my best not to laugh so he goes on Tinder and start swiping. He gets a match in minutes and they start talking. He shows me the picture of her body. Nice slim Afro Latina, looks super young like she's fresh on the market, looks like a classic Rhianna clone (not the new bleached one) then I saw the gap in her two front teeth and I remember this girl, and I tell him "Unless you have the girth of that baby corona I wouldn't bother, I know her as Dari, her body snapped back after she pushed the baby about 3 years ago but I don't think they stitched her back up, its loose" he decides to wait until night time to get something. Night time hits and I'm texting my chicas, no ones responding, I figure its Monday night so everyone went back home for the weekend (On Tuesday I found out why). My other boy comes out his room with another girl and says he's staying in for the night and keeping her as he's got a good deal so its just me and the new guy to hit the street and find something new on a Monday night (not the best night to do this). We find 2 friends both looking good and have good energy, new faces, they don't know us which is perfect so the don't know what to expect when we get back to the apartment. I didn't want to haggle so I let Newbie do it. He comes back with 500 mil la noche, dos polvos. He's getting it, he's learning. Ok an extra $25 a piece won't hurt but now I have to change the rules of the game to offset that extra 100 mil their getting, so instead of winners get 50 mil and looser takes a shot now its winner gets 20 mil. And its off to play drinking games!

Mojo Bandit
08-27-21, 21:12
I am posting this in "Cartagena Lists" also.

Places to get Covid test for return to USA.

This is a comprehensive list of places in Colombia to get Covid tested listed by city, giving the webiste, physical location, hours they are open, whether or not you need an appointment, the type of tests offered, the phone number, the turn around time for types of tests they do at each location, and the price.

https://co.usembassy.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/103/COVID-Testing-Locations-in-Colombia.pdf

Mr Enternational
08-27-21, 21:34
This is a comprehensive list of places in Colombia to get Covid tested listed by city, giving the webiste, physical location, hours they are open, whether or not you need an appointment, the type of tests offered, the phone number, the turn around time for types of tests they do at each location, and the price.

https://co.usembassy.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/103/COVID-Testing-Locations-in-Colombia.pdfGood effort, but this list is horrible. Seems many of the places are connected. Nothing under $35 and takes at least 1 day for an antigen test? In actuality there are many places where you can get an antigen test for $15 and only takes a few minutes.

Nypher
08-28-21, 01:17
Good effort, but this list is horrible. Seems many of the places are connected. Nothing under $35 and takes at least 1 day for an antigen test? In actuality there are many places where you can get an antigen test for $15 and only takes a few minutes.I had that same list printed out but didn't even look at it because the touts were constantly advertising the tests along with boat trips.

The place we used came to our apartment and charged newbie 165 mil for antigen. They tell you your results right on the spot within 5 minutes, then text or email the official results in 1 hour.

Drf1987
08-28-21, 06:31
I was there a few days ago 4th time in Cartagena and every time I'm there I say I'm going to try that lemonade or the orange one. They look so good and refreshing but in the back of my mind I always figured something wasn't right with it. I'm glad you confirmed my assumptions.


Sunday comes around. Newbie wants to go out. Its 11 am, I try to explain to him we do not go out in the day time and its better to just chill in the apartment until the sun goes down. We have everything we need here, pool, liquor, beers, kick ass wireless speakers with heavy bass that can link together, girls on instant call and we can Rappi anything we want. He doesn't get it and wants to go out because some bird keeps making noise by his bedroom window all day. My other boy starts laughing and says "chupando webo", Newbie feels some kind of way because he think he was called a dick sucker. I have to explain to him that's what they call the bird that's making the noise down here. He gets it. Cool, then his chica from last night comes out his room. My boy looks him and ask "where's she going?" he responds "with us, I'm keeping her for the day". I try to explain to him this is not DR and why we do not walk around with the chicas and just bring them to the apartment to have fun but he doesn't get it. Ok, he needs to see it to understand.

All 5 of us leave and as soon as we hit the corner where Hotel El Viajero is to turn down to reach the clocktower everyone is approaching him trying to sell him shit, but not us. Hes trying to figure it out but we just laughing. I tell him "you stand out too much, that basketball Jersey with Yankee fitted isn't doing you any favors but you can only learn why we don't do certain things if we let you see it for yourself". We make it to the clocktower and outside the wall where all the vendors are. Lemonade guy is screaming, orange guy is screaming but I only have ears for the Coconut guy! I tell Newbie don't buy any of these juices, my other boy head over and buys pineapple slices and the chica joins him. I snake my way though the vendors to coconut guy as I've been dying for coconut water since Exito stores were out of coconut water since I landed. 5 mil per coconut? Fuck it, give me 4, I need this..

Lebyteme
08-28-21, 09:25
Guess I just got lucky cause I was in Cartagena Memorial Day and early August. Both times leaving I didn't fill out the form and both times no one bothered to check. They only wanted to see that negative COVID test.


Travelers need 3 things to exit Colombia and enter the States.

1. Negative Antigen Covid test.

2. CheckMIG departure filled out.

3. Sign the waiver stating that you have been tested negative for covid.

Without those you will not get through security.

Ill go into further detail when I post the report on what happened Monday with the Newbie was trying to leave without the CheckMig completed then JetBlue kept delaying the flight until they canceled it.

JoeRoc
08-28-21, 21:27
I had that same list printed out but didn't even look at it because the touts were constantly advertising the tests along with boat trips.

The place we used came to our apartment and charged newbie 165 mil for antigen. They tell you your results right on the spot within 5 minutes, then text or email the official results in 1 hour.Which place did you use?

Mojo Bandit
08-29-21, 05:44
I had that same list printed out but didn't even look at it because the touts were constantly advertising the tests along with boat trips.

The place we used came to our apartment and charged newbie 165 mil for antigen. They tell you your results right on the spot within 5 minutes, then text or email the official results in 1 hour.Do you have the name and phone number of this place?