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I am certainly not minimizing your experience and I thank you for your post but I am starting to think that a lot of "high rollers" aka weekend warriar types (they are why the expression "a fool and his money are soon parted") have ruined what was once a spot that was in the top five of mongering spots in the western hemisphere.
I have not been to Cartagena for about 3 years, since right before covid, but the I have been to Cartagena 9 times between 2009 and 2019 and the standard rate was always 200 K pesos (which is currently about $40) short time (which was rarely limted to an hour) and 400 k for TLN. The whole night (Currently about $80) - , and no one and I mean no one would have ever talked in USD. Its the Peso and only the Peso. Right now that is just poisoning the market because the exchange rate is so high.Yeah I agree with you that $100 USD is too high (about 400 K COP), but it seemed like all the hottest girls were asking that price and didn't seem to want to budge from it. I just assumed that this was the going price in Cartegena post pandemic. Even a Venezuelan girl asked for the same rate in USD and I walked away. I had visited Cartegena about 3 or 4 years ago pre-pandemic and most of the girls were charging 200 K COP short time. The hottest ones were charging 300 K COP short time, but I always walked when they charged that much. I'm curious about others experiences if they've been here recently. I'm also curious about the prices in Medellin for Faces Dos and La Isla. I scrolled through a couple pages of the Medellin forum but didn't see any info about these prices. Since I was only in Cartegena a few days, I wasn't about to not pull.
As frequently noted here, NEVER pay upfront and send them on their way immediately. It's a guarantee for poor service. By doing so, I suspect you also lose their respect. I take great pleasure in giving them the boot when they ask in advance. I also don't renegotiate once they agree to payment later, which almost all do.
........... I'm also curious about the prices in Medellin for Faces Dos and La Isla. I scrolled through a couple pages of the Medellin forum but didn't see any info about these prices. Since I was only in Cartegena a few days, I wasn't about to not pull.I spend 2 weeks in Medellin at the beginning of the month before coming to Cartagena and I can tell you its all where you are and who you talk to because its so big. I tried to read through the Medellin board to get info on where to stay, what to do, prices, where the girls are, etc but it was so much back and forth bullshit I gave up and went blind. After 3 days I got sick and tired of negotiating due to all the girls wanted $100 or 400 mil for short time and wanted to be paid up front. This was mostly Parque Lleras area where I spent most of my time, big construction around there where they are digging up the road and part of the park blocked off. Since I was solo first 3 days I just allot of talking and walking away from high numbers, People kept trying to get me to go to Gustos or La Isla but that's not my thing and I could care less about it. One guy offered to take me to Centro where girls where they had girls in set packages or tiers, Bronze, Silver, Gold with prices starting at 60 K COP for 30 minutes, 80 K for 45 minutes, 100 K for an hour, etc and once I saw what the girls look like I finally understood why many members say they got girls for low prices and can describe them but would never post a picture of the girl. Bottom of the barrel chicas, sure they have nice asses when bent over but when they turn around, they also have a big stomach or a face that needs the lights turned off, I'm not paying a penny for that.
I did get one when I was walking by Dominoes that was solid for 300 K for 2 leches, had a large lion face tattooed on her arm and a large eagle face tattooed on her torso, forgot her name but ill never forget her body but of course she was too focused on going back to Parque to make more money after I finished.
After 3 days I gave up and flew in my chica from CTG and just enjoyed the rest of my time there doing tourist things before flying back to CTG with her.
I spend 2 weeks in Medellin at the beginning of the month before coming to Cartagena and I can tell you its all where you are and who you talk to because its so big. I tried to read through the Medellin board to get info on where to stay, what to do, prices, where the girls are, etc but it was so much back and forth bullshit I gave up and went blind. After 3 days I got sick and tired of negotiating due to all the girls wanted $100 or 400 mil for short time and wanted to be paid up front. This was mostly Parque Lleras area where I spent most of my time, big construction around there where they are digging up the road and part of the park blocked off. Since I was solo first 3 days I just allot of talking and walking away from high numbers, People kept trying to get me to go to Gustos or La Isla but that's not my thing and I could care less about it. One guy offered to take me to Centro where girls where they had girls in set packages or tiers, Bronze, Silver, Gold with prices starting at 60 K COP for 30 minutes, 80 K for 45 minutes, 100 K for an hour, etc and once I saw what the girls look like I finally understood why many members say they got girls for low prices and can describe them but would never post a picture of the girl. Bottom of the barrel chicas, sure they have nice asses when bent over but when they turn around, they also have a big stomach or a face that needs the lights turned off, I'm not paying a penny for that..Yep the Medellin forum is a mess if you want real information its a lot of back and forth about ATM fees & Viagra. I returned from my most recent Medellin / Cartagena two weeks ago. I spent two weeks in Medellin and one in Cartagena. Facebook / Tinder is the way to go for Medellin the avg quote for an HR is 200-250 mil. Parque Lleras is hit or miss but even when pulling from there I avg 300 mill which was about $65. I have yet to pay a chic $100 in Colombia and I've been traveling here since 2018. La Isla is fun if you go in a group and split bottles, I've had some of my best nights there. Its odd because it has rooms on site and the girls are 350 mill an hour but they also tend to let freelancers in who will go back to your hotel with you after you negotiate price. Medellin has casas spread out which can range from 50 k -150 k for and HR. New life, Zandalay, Energy are my go to's. I don't do centro streetwalkers but the centro strip clubs are fun and the girls put on good shows. I watched a chick fuck another one on stage with a strap on.
Cartagena was more of the same but this trip the girls heavily outnumbered the men. Delirium was 3 to 1 and there were even more of them outside the club 250-350 k in delirium. I noticed they heavily increased the bottle prices (its still cheap by American standards) but still its noticeable. Even in dolce the girls outnumbered the guys heavily. I was quoted $100 but switched to pesos and took a solid 9 back to the spot. One thing I noticed about Dolce is that there were groups of European dudes who were not mongers and had mistaken dolce for a regular bar. I spoke to a couple of them and they had no intention of paying at all lmaoo they thought they could just run some game on the girls and take them back. I'm sure if they got drunk enough they would consider it. Also notice a lot more Indian / Asian mongers than I've seen in the past. Funny thing is I never see these guys at the beach or walking around Centro daytime but I see them in the clubs.
Arrived in CTG yesterday afternoon. For Sunday evening, I had dinner at Cuzco. Quite good though pricey, however, the cost is mitigated by the rapidly increasing value of USD v. Pesos (and other currencies). The dollar has appreciated about 33% from last year at this time and is hovering close to 5 k CoP. Been reading the going rate is 400 k for short time though not sure if that is a standard or a sucker deal. Tonight I sat for about 1/2 hour on those wooden beaches by the wall at Clocktower area. Within the space of ten minutes, I had unwanted company of three different women. All MILF's and being generous with my 5: rating. It was about 9:30 and there was a big modern police van parked right in middle of plaza, however, it left exactly. At 10 pm and some chicas started to drift into plaza.
My hotel, per the norm these days, does not allow guests under any circumstances but since the room is comped, I can't complain too much. But I am staying an additional week at another place who does allow guests so will use the interim period to see if I can find someone worthy of my company LOL.
Yeah I agree with you that $100 USD is too high (about 400 K COP), but it seemed like all the hottest girls were asking that price and didn't seem to want to budge from it. I just assumed that this was the going price in Cartegena post pandemic. Even a Venezuelan girl asked for the same rate in USD and I walked away. I had visited Cartegena about 3 or 4 years ago pre-pandemic and most of the girls were charging 200 K COP short time. The hottest ones were charging 300 K COP short time, but I always walked when they charged that much. I'm curious about others experiences if they've been here recently. I'm also curious about the prices in Medellin for Faces Dos and La Isla. I scrolled through a couple pages of the Medellin forum but didn't see any info about these prices. Since I was only in Cartegena a few days, I wasn't about to not pull.La Isla prices http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2740016.
MamaGuevos
10-24-22, 18:52
I just spent a week in Cartegena with a friend. We rented a private 2 BR house near the plaza San Diego. The place came with a maid whom we sent away to her family for half our stay. She cooks and shops if you want that. Otherwise, she hides in a basement roon, leaving guests alone. There is a kitchen, 3 bathrooms and a small pool.
Before we paid, I asked the owner, Alvaro, if guests were permitted. He answered that as long as we were quiet, there was no problem. Indeed, my friend and I brought in a different woman every night and no one complained. On two occasios, my chica left while the maid was cleaning and wished her a Buen DIA; this interaction was seamless. After paying, we received the official rules that state no guests and no children under 8. Obviously guests were ok, but I would be extremely surprised if they allowed kids.
This apartment has an outdoor porch and a rooftop deck where one can smoke cigarettes or marijuana without worry.
Here is the URL: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/13002624?source_impression_id=p3_1666632998_%2FKnpbzrctLetzOuR.
Yep the Medellin forum is a mess if you want real information it’s a lot of back and forth about ATM fees & Viagra. …………
Cartagena was more of the same but this trip the girls heavily outnumbered the men. Delirium was 3 to 1 and there were even more of them outside the club 250-350 k in delirium. I noticed they heavily increased the bottle prices (its still cheap by American standards) but still its noticeable. Even in dolce the girls outnumbered the guys heavily. I was quoted $100 but switched to pesos and took a solid 9 back to the spot. One thing I noticed about Dolce is that there were groups of European dudes who were not mongers and had mistaken dolce for a regular bar. I spoke to a couple of them and they had no intention of paying at all lmaoo they thought they could just run some game on the girls and take them back. I'm sure if they got drunk enough they would consider it. Also notice a lot more Indian / Asian mongers than I've seen in the past. Funny thing is I never see these guys at the beach or walking around Centro daytime but I see them in the clubs.I did go into Delirium one night as one of my chicas is usually in there and wanted to go. Many of the girls I saw looked like the exact same ones I avoid here in the TriState, manly looking and hood so we left. She also wanted to try the Bronx Afro house that's next to VSOP. I made a joke about moving out of the Bronx just to fly 2000 miles to go to a place named Bronx but she didn't get it. We went up and it was nothing but boomers in there sitting around drinking. We both felt out of place since I'm in my 30's and my girl under 25 so it was just awkward. We left and went to Monkey Bar, all the gringo girls in here, packed, can't even move so left again. Ended up at Townhouse.
The Indians and Asians don't stay in Centro during the day time. They mostly go do day trips. I saw a bunch of them over at the islands Luxury, Isla del Rosario, and Playa Puntilla. The strange thing is it's either all guys or the guys highly outnumber the girls that are with them. Many of them just go straight to Dolce get a girl for the hour and leave, it's how my dolce girls make a killing. I'm surprised they let in all those Europeans and they didn't know what they were getting into, they were better off going to Alquimico and try to run game there cause in Dolce it's money or nothing. Jajaja.
Did they do the dancing on the bar and dancing on the makeshift stage while you were in Dolce? It crazy because I remember back in November if you tried to record with your phone in Dolce it would be a problem, now everyone got phones out recording even the girls SMH.
Arrived in CTG yesterday afternoon. For Sunday evening, I had dinner at Cuzco. Quite good though pricey, however, the cost is mitigated by the rapidly increasing value of USD v. Pesos (and other currencies). The dollar has appreciated about 33% from last year at this time and is hovering close to 5 k CoP. Been reading the going rate is 400 k for short time though not sure if that is a standard or a sucker deal. Tonight I sat for about 1/2 hour on those wooden beaches by the wall at Clocktower area. Within the space of ten minutes, I had unwanted company of three different women. All MILF's and being generous with my 5: rating. It was about 9:30 and there was a big modern police van parked right in middle of plaza, however, it left exactly. At 10 pm and some chicas started to drift into plaza.
My hotel, per the norm these days, does not allow guests under any circumstances but since the room is comped, I can't complain too much. But I am staying an additional week at another place who does allow guests so will use the interim period to see if I can find someone worthy of my company LOL.We must have crossed paths because I left Sunday afternoon. On your way back make sure you have a mask, they won't let you in the airport without one.
Enjoy you stay and hopefully you had better weather than I did because every day I was there it rained hard! That area infront of the clock tower going to Getsemeni was always flooded and smelled like shit.
I did go into Delirium one night as one of my chicas is usually in there and wanted to go. Many of the girls I saw looked like the exact same ones I avoid here in the TriState, manly looking and hood so we left. She also wanted to try the Bronx Afro house that's next to VSOP. I made a joke about moving out of the Bronx just to fly 2000 miles to go to a place named Bronx but she didn't get it. We went up and it was nothing but boomers in there sitting around drinking. We both felt out of place since I'm in my 30's and my girl under 25 so it was just awkward. We left and went to Monkey Bar, all the gringo girls in here, packed, can't even move so left again. Ended up at Townhouse.
The Indians and Asians don't stay in Centro during the day time. They mostly go do day trips. I saw a bunch of them over at the islands Luxury, Isla del Rosario, and Playa Puntilla. The strange thing is it's either all guys or the guys highly outnumber the girls that are with them . Many of them just go straight to Dolce get a girl for the hour and leave, it's how my dolce girls make a killing. I'm surprised they let in all those Europeans and they didn't know what they were getting into, they were better off going to Alquimico and try to run game there cause in Dolce it's money or nothing. Jajaja.
Did they do the dancing on the bar and dancing on the makeshift stage while you were in Dolce? It crazy because I remember back in November if you tried to record with your phone in Dolce it would be a problem, now everyone got phones out recording even the girls SMH.Yeah I've come to the conclusion that majority of these guys are not participating in mongering, Many of them are married or came with family etc. Or also on a budget.
I arrived Saturday afternoon and outside the airport, the streets were wet with some puddles so it must have rained right before my plane landed. However, there has been no appreciable rain since though it has been more cloudy than not. I repeated the same drill on Monday night as Sunday Eve. Hung out at Clocktower and noticed very few chicas standing in this area at all, unlike my many prior visits. A big police van again in middle of plaza and some chicas hovering around the edges of plaza. Pretty clear they are not permitted to stand in plaza like in olden days. A few sitting on benches who can rightfully explain they are there to enjoy the evening LOL. Walked back to my hotel past La Dolce, Space etc. Seemed "hoodish" and passed. Also, Inferno but it appeared empty. I am under the impression from these pages that's it even more mercenary at these clubs than in the past and that says something! Also, some really unattractive ones running about.
I noticed a couple of places on the floors above the Clocktower. How do you access the rooftop and the floor below? Is this the Townhouse?
I was asked to wear a mask on when arriving at airport so know about that already.
We must have crossed paths because I left Sunday afternoon. On your way back make sure you have a mask, they won't let you in the airport without one.
Enjoy you stay and hopefully you had better weather than I did because every day I was there it rained hard! That area infront of the clock tower going to Getsemeni was always flooded and smelled like shit.
I hear the wife beaters and yankee fitted hats have made their way to Cartagena. They ran Sosua into the ground, I hope Colombia won't tolerate that bullshit.
Someone mentioned in the last few pages about a place called the Townhouse and also noted the Monkey Bar. I stumbled across the Members Only club, which is on the ground floor of a townhouse in El Centro that is a boutique hotel with a "swinging hot spot" a la Joni Mitchell on the rooftop patio. Apparently, the place rocks on weekends but did not go up there since it was Tuesday night. The very comely and personable cocktail waitress in Members Only told me they were also having a private party at the ground level bar this Saturday
However, it's $150 USD for entry, which includes a burlesque event (stripping, I assume), free food and open bar. Apparently, they offer this event from time to time, though it may be too rich for my blood unless someone here can recommend this event. The townhouse hotel also has ten rooms including one suite on the top floor with a dipping pool. Not cheap, however, but it looked nice from their website. A standard room, if available, can be had for $115 per night. The rooms are above the Members Only bar.
Last night, they had a nice jazz trio with an alto sax, keyboard player and woman singer. It was rather sparsely attended but the club itself was quite nice plus did I mention the waitress? She is worth the zero price of admission. I did not go to the Monkey Bar but will check it out tonight. Also, someone also mentioned Tulum, a new club in Getesamani so will swing by there too.
I hear the wife beaters and yankee fitted hats have made their way to Cartagena. They ran Sosua into the ground, I hope Colombia won't tolerate that bullshit.It's a growing problem unfortunately.
I hear the wife beaters and yankee fitted hats have made their way to Cartagena. They ran Sosua into the ground, I hope Colombia won't tolerate that bullshit.They have been increasing in numbers for a while. Fortunately, they are concentrated to Playa Hollywood around Kiosk #4, Clock Tower, and Delirium. They sometimes spill over into VSOP and Dolce though.
Even some of the chicas are walking around with Yankee fitteds.
Yup for Poseidon- elevators still a huge problem, even though two of the 3 were working this time. But that's the only problem we ever have there and just suck it up. We stay on the 21st top floor 5 br penthouse with panoramic balcony- it's so sick. No roach issues and never ever had visitor issues in 5 years, always signing in 4-5 different chicas each and every night.Do you have the Airbnb listing for this penthouse spot?
I'm planning my return trip and the host turned off the property I usually stay at on the 16th floor in this building.
With all the headaches I had on my last trip with electricity going out then no water I'm willing into give up the freedom of no security for a good stay.
They have been increasing in numbers for a while. Fortunately, they are concentrated to Playa Hollywood around Kiosk #4, Clock Tower, and Delirium. They sometimes spill over into VSOP and Dolce though.
Even some of the chicas are walking around with Yankee fitteds.Last trip everything was chill but a brother told me that. his AIRNB guests are getting in big problems because they think that as Americans they can do anything. And the girls are in on it with the cops.
It's a growing problem unfortunately.Has it drove up the chica prices at all?
They have been increasing in numbers for a while. Fortunately, they are concentrated to Playa Hollywood around Kiosk #4, Clock Tower, and Delirium. They sometimes spill over into VSOP and Dolce though.
Even some of the chicas are walking around with Yankee fitteds.Interesting, Sosua overtime adopted the same urban style as the people who visited the town.
Has it drove up the chica prices at all?
Interesting, Sosua overtime adopted the same urban style as the people who visited the town.I believe it has driven up the prices. These groups are hunted down from the moment the touts at the beach entrances spot them. But to each his own. Be friendly and have a good time. But don't pay in advance.
I believe it has driven up the prices. These groups are hunted down from the moment the touts at the beach entrances spot them. But to each his own. Be friendly and have a good time. But don't pay in advance.Well I hope they don't come to Medellin jaja.
I am in Cartagena now and whilst walking about today in the midday heat came across a massage place on a side street called "Relax" and something. There were a few girls in the doorway area but needed to be elsewhere so did not enquire. It's not too far from Plaza Madrid (maybe two blocks). I though that I saw some comments about massage places on here but can't seem to find anything. Needless to say, an he would be nice as well. Anybody?
Well I hope they don't come to Medellin jaja.I believe Medellin is too big to get affected, and it depends on what mongers are going for.
For example, when I was there for 2 weeks I was in In El Poblado. I didn't do Centro or Laureles or one of the other areas as it was my first time. In El Poblado around Parque Lareles I would approach chicas and offer 300 K for the hour and they would counter with $100 or $120 for the hour. They wouldn't even try negotiating with me in Pesos. I endured 3 days of this and out of the 3 days I only got 1 hit, so threw in the towel and just flew in my main Dolce chica.
When we got I got to Cartegena, I reached out to my other chicas, same chicas I just saw in March for 200 K a leche or 400 K for the night 2-3 leches all BBFS and I always see them when I go to Cartegena. Why all of a sudden 6 months later the Colombian chicas are asking for 400 K or $100 for 1 leche and 1. 2 million K or $250 for the night and now they want everything with a condom. I settled with 300 K with condom for the leche and after I was done, told them if you want to charge me more money but offer me less service ill find someone else. My Venezuelan chicas are still the same price and service (but I sort of get it because most don't have proper documentation to get pass security or don't want to get caught in Centro by Migracion so they go from house to gringo back to the house). My main Dolce chica who I flew out is still the same where she only ask for taxi money most of the times, and she's with me all night until she leaves in the afternoon. Same with my main Delirium Chica.
My main Dolce chica told me allot of those same Centro girls charge 50 K in the barrios for locals, then come to Centro and charge gringos $100. Of course I call bullshit so she took me to Caribe Plaza mall for the day where she would point out girls and I would approve or decline. When she points one I like, she would approach them and start a quick conversation, then I would come along (with my limited Spanish) and see where it goes. Basic conversation of (Telling my girl I'm ready to go, ask whose her friend? Introduce myself with Hi, my name is- what's your name? What are you doing tonight? Join my friends and I for a drink later, etc) Out of about 7 girls I managed to get 2 different 18 yo BBFS for 100 K + taxi which tops out at 30 K. So this higher price with less service I'm not taking no part of it especially if we been together before.
I am in Cartagena now and whilst walking about today in the midday heat came across a massage place on a side street called "Relax" and something. There were a few girls in the doorway area but needed to be elsewhere so did not enquire. It's not too far from Plaza Madrid (maybe two blocks). I though that I saw some comments about massage places on here but can't seem to find anything. Needless to say, an he would be nice as well. Anybody?I don't have much experience with those places but I can say, the ones that walk around with scrubs uniforms handing out the cards will come to your room and give you the massage and you can negotiate for extras. The young ones will jump at the offer.
Mr Enternational
10-30-22, 00:36
My main Dolce chica told me allot of those same Centro girls charge 50 K in the barrios for locals, then come to Centro and charge gringos $100.Guys in various threads have been preaching this for years. Just because the chick gets $100 from you does not mean she is not doing the same for 50 K in other places. This goes over so many guys heads though because they do not understand price discrimination and think well if she can get $100 in Place A, why would she go to Place be for less. Makes no sense to a lot of guys, but those that understand and know are able to take advantage of it as your chick has taught you.
DonCarlos1234
10-30-22, 01:02
NO? I had a plan to go but seems I may change and do Salento / Bogota / Medellin instead. Say it isn't so.
I will keep in an eye out for those girls. So far, I don't recall seeing anything like that. Any part of El Centro where they might be? I did find the Relax Spa website and it seems legit. In fact, too legit. A regular one hour massage is 150 cop. But if they have a website, a he may not be on the table so to speak.
I don't have much experience with those places but I can say, the ones that walk around with scrubs uniforms handing out the cards will come to your room and give you the massage and you can negotiate for extras. The young ones will jump at the offer.
I will keep in an eye out for those girls. So far, I don't recall seeing anything like that. Any part of El Centro where they might be? I did find the Relax Spa website and it seems legit. In fact, too legit. A regular one hour massage is 150 cop. But if they have a website, a he may not be on the table so to speak.They are mostly walking around the Clock Tower area, over by the big multi-level Exito, but I mostly encounter them walking up Calle de Nuestra (Carrera 10) going towards that fancy mall (La Serrezuela) during morning and afternoons, same with Calle de la Universidad (Carrera 6).
PerkinWarbeck
10-30-22, 17:28
Going to be living in Cartagena next year. Anyone headed to Carnival in Barranquilla mid-February?
They are mostly walking around the Clock Tower area, over by the big multi-level Exito, but I mostly encounter them walking up Calle de Nuestra (Carrera 10) going towards that fancy mall (La Serrezuela) during morning and afternoons, same with Calle de la Universidad (Carrera 6).Ok. I just noticed there is another Relax Spa near Calle Nuestra and a different spa called Uraku Spa in that area. Will check it out.
Going to be living in Cartagena next year. Anyone headed to Carnival in Barranquilla mid-February?My main Dolce chica will be taking me so I was planning on dropping in for that weekend but those direct flight from NYC area is $800+ just to go and the return is about the same. So I might drop in the week before Carnival and give Medellin another try then go to Barranquilla for that Carnival weekend, then finish off in Cartegena, or head to Santa Martha, or San Andreas to finish the trip.
All my chicas are warning me, put my money and cell in my front pocket and stay with other gringos, don't mix in with the locals too much there. They say the pickpocketing is insane during that time.
Looks like all my usual guest friendly no security AirBBs are already booked for that timeframe too. SMH.
Relatively new member here, and have been RTFF for last few months soaking in all the great info.
Don't have a lot of time there, so looking to see if there are some girls members would recommend and are willing to share so I can get a head start and not get ripped off. Staying in El Centro. Looking for flaquita type, semi-pro preferred. But really, any chica that you've had a good experience with. Some TLN if things go well.
Please DM with contact and photo / social if available. Happy to send an update on how things go.
Greatly appreciated.
NO? I had a plan to go but seems I may change and do Salento / Bogota / Medellin instead. Say it isn't so.Aside from beach / water activities I don't see a reason to go to Cartagena but that's just my personal preference.
PerkinWarbeck
10-31-22, 21:18
Relatively new member here, and have been RTFF for last few months soaking in all the great info.
Don't have a lot of time there, so looking to see if there are some girls members would recommend and are willing to share so I can get a head start and not get ripped off. Staying in El Centro. Looking for flaquita type, semi-pro preferred. But really, any chica that you've had a good experience with. Some TLN if things go well.
Please DM with contact and photo / social if available. Happy to send an update on how things go.
Greatly appreciated.For semi-pros, just use Colombian Cupid or chat up one of the younger girls at a nail salon or restaurant. They aren't prepagos, but they are 100% gringo chasers.
Today I made it my mission to see if there were any massage places in El Centro where my "spidey" sense said extras might be available. I was walking on Calle De La Cruz where I saw a woman standing outside a shop who handed me a massage menu. The place was called Hom Spa and the sign said men only, which is usually a tell. On the menu was "quartro manos" or 4 hands massage. I had one once in Borneo (KK) with two young hotties and it was spectacular. Think the shop actual location may have been upstairs.
A bit further down, I came across Relax Spa, also up a flight of stairs. I believe this place is under the same ownership as the massage place with same name located near Universidad. However, this one said men only. There were private walled rooms and had a nice spa type atmosphere. There was one semi sultry chicks in the waiting area. They also had quartro manos massage and the cost was 280 k for one hour or at $60 usd, whether that was all in or included extras was not clear.
I also found another massage spa around the corner on Las Bombas called Ukuru Spa. But that was for men and woman and offered couple massages. A couple of gorditas hanging out in waiting area so doubt that will yield much action. '.
Might give one of these a go though Relax closes at 7 so it's more a daytime place. Still have not seen any girls passing out massage cards but would prefer inviting someone over to my hotel as my new place allows guests.
Elvis 2008
11-01-22, 01:39
NO? I had a plan to go but seems I may change and do Salento / Bogota / Medellin instead. Say it isn't so.Don, I had the whole country to choose from where to set down roots, and I chose Cartagena but the only reason was I had a gal already.
I go to CTG every month or so for a week or so and I cannot recall seeing women where I did a double take. I have not been to La Dolce Vita which guys have said is filled with the most amazing looking women but I cannot imagine it being better than La Isla in Medellin or Fiebre in Bogota.
In comparison, I spent one night in the GHL hotel in Barranquilla, and I saw two women in the lobby, and I am not sure if they were hookers or SBs or what, but they were among the most beautiful women I have ever seen in my life. The pool is on the top floor, and I went up there and there was some band doing a video and I saw three more absolutely stunning women. I have not seen that many hot women in any other city outside of Medellin in Colombia but even that is not a fair comparison because we are comparing a few nights in Barranquilla to dozens in Medellin.
I had five women there. They were all stunning, all great in bed, and none were cocky. The reason people do not go there is because it is boring and the weather is hot. I do not mind the heat but I know others do.
I thought what Nypher suggested about having a woman approach other women was great. I wish I had thought of that. My seeking gal that night knew two of the women doing the music video, and I should have invited them down to my room for a foursome but oh well. This same seeking woman did on a later trip show up with a friend of hers who was really hot, but I declined that too because I was spent.
I get when guys say Barranquilla is boring, but I think if women are your entertainment or you establish a routine it could be great. You are also dealing with a lot less competition. Unlike Lleras Park or Bocagrande, where you can spot and hear loads of gringos, I do not recall seeing any in Barranquilla.
You are not going to see the wall to wall WGs like CTG, Bogota, or Medellin, but if you are looking for the hottest of sugar babies, it is target rich.
It also does not hurt that the flights are cheaper and not as booked up as other cities, and the hotels are nice, modern, and way cheaper than the other cities in Colombia.
If things with me and my current woman did not work out, and I had to start looking for another sugar baby or GF type gal, my first stop in Colombia would be Barranquilla.
For semi-pros, just use Colombian Cupid or chat up one of the younger girls at a nail salon or restaurant. They aren't prepagos, but they are 100% gringo chasers.Thanks. Will check out CC. Might be tough to land semi-pros without speaking Spanish now that I think about it. So prepagos maybe the way to go.
Last night around 9:45 I decided to walk to Clocktower and watch the mid evening activity since it was Halloween. There was not too much going on except a few random families with their children, the normal assortment of wayward hookers, and the usual suspects. After a 1/2 hour, I left my station and started the walk back to my hotel. Turning the corner on the street towards Delirium, I encountered a young looking white girl who grabbed my arm. Usually, I don't allow hookers to touch me before I know them but I was in a relaxed frame of mind and told her after a few seconds she was too young. I estimated she could have been 16 or 17 yo. Nevertheless, she persisted in wrapping her hand around my forearm. While I was thinking of how to divest her from my arm, several seconds later I encountered 5 mulatto women and one got down on her knees in front of me stimulating oral sex while the others circled me. Within seconds, they swarmed me on all sides, grabbing and poking me and trying repeatedly to unzip my pockets. I felt one woman with her hand on my phone while another tried to pick my wallet in my other pocket.
I spun around to escape both pushing them off me. I was so angry that I hit one women in the stomach who claimed it was not her but another chick who was attempting to steal my phone. Then she retaliated by hitting me a glancing blow with her pocketbook. This entire incident occurred all in the space of a minute in full view of other pedestrians as I was walking in middle of streets just steps from the porticos of the Clocktower. Finally when I yelled "ladrones", they backed off.
A minute later, I spoke to a cop at the next intersection and pointed out where they were but he was too lazy to walk two minutes to investigate. Not sure what happened to the under aged gal or if she was part of this assault but because of their different skin colors, I kind of doubt it. Needless to say, it speaks to the brazenness of these women as such an event would not have happened in years past that close to the Clocktower at that early an hour.
Be careful out there and don't let them touch you!
Mr Enternational
11-01-22, 19:14
I encountered a young looking white girl who grabbed my arm. Usually, I don't allow hookers to touch me before I know them but I was in a relaxed frame of mindCan't be in those streets with a relaxed frame of mind. There are sharks in the water and you have the bait on you. Remember the last guy that reported being at the clock tower and chicks coming up on him and stole his money. Then there was the guy that got his necklace snatched. DON'T let people come up on you! Keep your head on a swivel in the street.
Can't be in those streets with a relaxed frame of mind. There are sharks in the water and you have the bait on you. Remember the last guy that reported being at the clock tower and chicks coming up on him and stole his money. Then there was the guy that got his necklace snatched. DON'T let people come up on you! Keep your head on a swivel in the street.Usually do and a lesson learned. Fortunately, I knew exactly their agenda and incurred no personal loss but made this report to let fellow compatriots know that the Clocktower is not as tranquil as it may appear. It's particularly daunting on the street in front of the plaza. There are a lot more mischief makers there then in years past. I think because police are trying to keep the plaza clear a lot of help that is as they just moved a bit.
I am still wondering if the first chick who approached me was trying to distract me and was in on it
ElIntocableDr
11-02-22, 14:31
Usually do and a lesson learned. Fortunately, I knew exactly their agenda and incurred no personal loss but made this report to let fellow compatriots know that the Clocktower is not as tranquil as it may appear. It's particularly daunting on the street in front of the plaza. There are a lot more mischief makers there then in years past. I think because police are trying to keep the plaza clear a lot of help that is as they just moved a bit.
I am still wondering if the first chick who approached me was trying to distract me and was in on itAssume they are all in it.
Last night around 9:45 I decided to walk to Clocktower and watch the mid evening activity since it was Halloween. There was not too much going on except a few random families with their children, the normal assortment of wayward hookers, and the usual suspects. After a 1/2 hour, I left my station and started the walk back to my hotel. Turning the corner on the street towards Delirium, I encountered a young looking white girl who grabbed my arm. Usually, I don't allow hookers to touch me before I know them but I was in a relaxed frame of mind and told her after a few seconds she was too young. I estimated she could have been 16 or 17 yo. Nevertheless, she persisted in wrapping her hand around my forearm. While I was thinking of how to divest her from my arm, several seconds later I encountered 5 mulatto women and one got down on her knees in front of me stimulating oral sex while the others circled me. Within seconds, they swarmed me on all sides, grabbing and poking me and trying repeatedly to unzip my pockets. I felt one woman with her hand on my phone while another tried to pick my wallet in my other pocket.
I spun around to escape both pushing them off me. I was so angry that I hit one women in the stomach who claimed it was not her but another chick who was attempting to steal my phone. Then she retaliated by hitting me a glancing blow with her pocketbook. This entire incident occurred all in the space of a minute in full view of other pedestrians as I was walking in middle of streets just steps from the porticos of the Clocktower. Finally when I yelled "ladrones", they backed off.
A minute later, I spoke to a cop at the next intersection and pointed out where they were but he was too lazy to walk two minutes to investigate. Not sure what happened to the under aged gal or if she was part of this assault but because of their different skin colors, I kind of doubt it. Needless to say, it speaks to the brazenness of these women as such an event would not have happened in years past that close to the Clocktower at that early an hour.
Be careful out there and don't let them touch you!I'd put all my money in my shoes and have nothing else on me apart from my clothes and cop as much feels as possible.
I'd put all my money in my shoes and have nothing else on me apart from my clothes and cop as much feels as possible.The shoes is a great idea. I do that when I'm in the sketchier areas of Medellin and Cali or hitting their strip clubs.
PerkinWarbeck
11-03-22, 00:51
Thanks. Will check out CC. Might be tough to land semi-pros without speaking Spanish now that I think about it. So prepagos maybe the way to go.If you're white and / or good looking, it won't be. They will chat you up with Google Translate. Usually they ask for your instagram first anyway.
The shoes is a great idea. I do that when I'm in the sketchier areas of Medellin and Cali or hitting their strip clubs.And your phone? It's unfortunate that a great city like Cartagenavis now being run by thugs and scammers. They have always been here but not as bold as now. I think the city deacons made a mistake chasing them from the plaza. At least there, you know where they are. Used to be I would not see a soul after walking the first block towards Plaza Madrid. Now, it fells like running the gauntlet.
And your phone? It's unfortunate that a great city like Cartagenavis now being run by thugs and scammers. They have always been here but not as bold as now. I think the city deacons made a mistake chasing them from the plaza. At least there, you know where they are. Used to be I would not see a soul after walking the first block towards Plaza Madrid. Now, it fells like running the gauntlet.Is it more dangerous than El Centro in Medellin?
Is it more dangerous than El Centro in Medellin?I do not know as have not been in MDE in many years. I would think it's more dangerous over there, especially in terms of violent crime. InCartagena, it's more harassment, pickpocketing, stealing and scamming.
PerkinWarbeck
11-03-22, 23:37
Is it more dangerous than El Centro in Medellin?Not even close. Just don't wander around Centro so late. Go straight to the clubs, grab the chica, and go home. Don't dawdle. In fact, if you stay out of Centro and play online or try pick ups in Getsemani with the non-pros and semis, you won't have these problems at all. I was there end of August to early September and had no trouble whatsoever.
I arrived Saturday afternoon and outside the airport, the streets were wet with some puddles so it must have rained right before my plane landed. However, there has been no appreciable rain since though it has been more cloudy than not. ...........................You still out there?
All my chicas mad they can't go anywhere, some serious flooding in Centro right now.
Not even close. Just don't wander around Centro so late. Go straight to the clubs, grab the chica, and go home. Don't dawdle. In fact, if you stay out of Centro and play online or try pick ups in Getsemani with the non-pros and semis, you won't have these problems at all. I was there end of August to early September and had no trouble whatsoever.Same here, I stuck to Getsemani and barely went to Centro. To me, Getsemani had better restaurants anyway and was not as crowded.
Usually do and a lesson learned. Fortunately, I knew exactly their agenda and incurred no personal loss but made this report to let fellow compatriots know that the Clocktower is not as tranquil as it may appear. It's particularly daunting on the street in front of the plaza. There are a lot more mischief makers there then in years past. I think because police are trying to keep the plaza clear a lot of help that is as they just moved a bit.
I am still wondering if the first chick who approached me was trying to distract me and was in on itIts bad and the crime is also in broad daylight too. During my recent 2 weeks I was in Cartegena one of my chicas was robbed 3 times. First she said she hopped off a moto taxi and when she turned around the taxi came back and snatched her bag, she said she had her phone in her bra so they didn't get that (her fault because I gave her money to take a car but she was trying to be cheap and took a moto instead). Second she said she was walking home and some guy approached her and told her give up her phone or they will mess up her face so she gave them the phone. So now she's using a borrowed phone. Then my last day there she said two guys on a bike they took her purse when she was waiting to cross the street.
I keep telling my chicas that I never see this crime when I'm there therefore it seems safe to me, but my little experience of 3 months spread out during the year cannot equal to their experience living there full time so I just have to take their word for it that Cartegena is not as safe as everyone thinks.
Same here, I stuck to Getsemani and barely went to Centro. To me, Getsemani had better restaurants anyway and was not as crowded.
Its bad and the crime is also in broad daylight too. During my recent 2 weeks I was in Cartegena one of my chicas was robbed 3 times. First she said she hopped off a moto taxi and when she turned around the taxi came back and snatched her bag, she said she had her phone in her bra so they didn't get that (her fault because I gave her money to take a car but she was trying to be cheap and took a moto instead). Second she said she was walking home and some guy approached her and told her give up her phone or they will mess up her face so she gave them the phone. So now she's using a borrowed phone. Then my last day there she said two guys on a bike they took her purse when she was waiting to cross the street.
I keep telling my chicas that I never see this crime when I'm there therefore it seems safe to me, but my little experience of 3 months spread out during the year cannot equal to their experience living there full time so I just have to take their word for it that Cartegena is not as safe as everyone thinks.Getsmani has good restaurants and tasty and cheap. I never felt scared and nobody robbed me and my girl when walking back to Marriott hotel through the gap in the wall middle of the night. We both felt like leisurely romantic walk.
Maybe the thief's think that girls purse is full of money they earned as a prostitute. Besides unlike other places girls in Cartagena flash their fancy purse. I remember my Colombian girl in Costa Rica stuffing the money in her undies. When asked why she said there are many thieves there who snatch purse from women. Many a time they threaten the girl like what happened to your girl. Next time tell your girl to stuff the money in her undies. Thieves are after money and not into causing bodily harm.
PerkinWarbeck
11-06-22, 05:02
I keep telling my chicas that I never see this crime when I'm there therefore it seems safe to me, but my little experience of 3 months spread out during the year cannot equal to their experience living there full time so I just have to take their word for it that Cartegena is not as safe as everyone thinks.Cartagena for the chicas is not as safe because they do not live downtown. If the girl is from Cartagena, chances are she lives east of barrio Armenia. If she's not, then likely in the neighborhoods just east of Manga in El Bosque. During the day, El Bosque is actually pretty safe. At night, it gets sketch, but not terribly so. Under no circumstances should anyone reading this venture east of Armenia. There's nothing there, and you will get robbed. If your chica lived downtown (Centro, Getsemani, Manga, or Bocagrande / Castillogrande), she would have much the same experience as we all do.
Mr Enternational
11-06-22, 06:23
Then my last day there she said two guys on a bike they took her purse when she was waiting to cross the street.Yet chicks in Latin America continue carrying purses.
Mr Enternational
11-06-22, 06:27
Maybe the thief's think that girls purse is full of money they earned as a prostitute. Besides unlike other places girls in Cartagena flash their fancy purse.LOL. No. I know chicks all over Latin America that have gotten robbed of their purses. Has nothing to do with being a hooker or the purse being fancy.
Cartagena for the chicas is not as safe because they do not live downtown. If the girl is from Cartagena, chances are she lives east of barrio Armenia. If she's not, then likely in the neighborhoods just east of Manga in El Bosque. During the day, El Bosque is actually pretty safe. At night, it gets sketch, but not terribly so. Under no circumstances should anyone reading this venture east of Armenia. There's nothing there, and you will get robbed. If your chica lived downtown (Centro, Getsemani, Manga, or Bocagrande / Castillogrande), she would have much the same experience as we all do.My cutoff is Caribe Plaza, I don't go anywhere further, once I see too many 2 men on a motorcycle I'm going back to Centro jajaja.
The closest chica I have lives in El Bosque she's usually safe. But the ones that always get into trouble are coming from La Esperanza or San Fernando or way out there. I even have two coming from way up in Bayucna, so far no problems with them as they have personal drivers that drop them off and pick them up.
NeilGeorge
11-06-22, 12:49
Last night around 9:45 I decided to walk to Clocktower and watch the mid evening activity since it was Halloween. There was not too much going on except a few random families with their children, the normal assortment of wayward hookers, and the usual suspects. After a 1/2 hour, I left my station and started the walk back to my hotel. Turning the corner on the street towards Delirium, I encountered a young looking white girl who grabbed my arm. Usually, I don't allow hookers to touch me before I know them but I was in a relaxed frame of mind and told her after a few seconds she was too young. I estimated she could have been 16 or 17 yo. Nevertheless, she persisted in wrapping her hand around my forearm. While I was thinking of how to divest her from my arm, several seconds later I encountered 5 mulatto women and one got down on her knees in front of me stimulating oral sex while the others circled me. Within seconds, they swarmed me on all sides, grabbing and poking me and trying repeatedly to unzip my pockets. I felt one woman with her hand on my phone while another tried to pick my wallet in my other pocket.
I spun around to escape both pushing them off me. I was so angry that I hit one women in the stomach who claimed it was not her but another chick who was attempting to steal my phone. Then she retaliated by hitting me a glancing blow with her pocketbook. This entire incident occurred all in the space of a minute in full view of other pedestrians as I was walking in middle of streets just steps from the porticos of the Clocktower. Finally when I yelled "ladrones", they backed off.
I had something like this happen about a block from the Hotel Del Rey in Costa Rica. A group of girls, 4-5 walked toward me on the sidewalk and very quickly they put their hands in my front pockets, pulling my money out of the pockets onto the sidewalk. I quickly grabbed my money and ran away. Only took one second. First, be careful if you walk alone. Try to put your money somewhere other than your pockets. Be ready to run like heck. No weapons, just a group of young girls about 17-18 years old.
I had something like this happen about a block from the Hotel Del Rey in Costa Rica. A group of girls, 4-5 walked toward me on the sidewalk and very quickly they put their hands in my front pockets, pulling my money out of the pockets onto the sidewalk. I quickly grabbed my money and ran away. Only took one second. First, be careful if you walk alone. Try to put your money somewhere other than your pockets. Be ready to run like heck. No weapons, just a group of young girls about 17-18 years old.How about trying this. Walk around with no underwear after cutting out the pockets of your trousers. When the girls put their hands in your pockets they get to play with your junk. Free semi-hand jobs, pleasure for you, fun for the girls with lots of laughter.
NeilGeorge
11-06-22, 21:19
How about trying this. Walk around with no underwear after cutting out the pockets of your trousers. When the girls put their hands in your pockets they get to play with your junk. Free semi-hand jobs, pleasure for you, fun for the girls with lots of laughter.I'll just walk around with my dick hanging out. Maybe get a BJ. Easier! LOL.
World Wide Wes
11-06-22, 22:36
Hello all,
This will be my second trip to Cartagena as I went last year around this time. I added a review on how my trip went as well. As always thanks for the info on this great city. I was wondering if anyone had great leads on Chica Friendly AirBNB's. I'm booked at a Hotel but I'm thinking that an AirBNB would make the trip a whole lot better. Thank you in advance. Happy Hunting.
Getsmani has good restaurants and tasty and cheap. I never felt scared and nobody robbed me and my girl when walking back to Marriott hotel through the gap in the wall middle of the night. We both felt like leisurely romantic walk.
Maybe the thief's think that girls purse is full of money they earned as a prostitute. Besides unlike other places girls in Cartagena flash their fancy purse. I remember my Colombian girl in Costa Rica stuffing the money in her undies. When asked why she said there are many thieves there who snatch purse from women. Many a time they threaten the girl like what happened to your girl. Next time tell your girl to stuff the money in her undies. Thieves are after money and not into causing bodily harm.That's the thing, my girls don't keep allot of money in their bag. Many times I pay them and they just toss the money in their bag, but when they are leaving, they will put the majority of the money in their bra (if they are wearing one) and just leave enough money in the purse for the taxi.
Yet chicks in Latin America continue carrying purses.I have no idea why they carry it. The most I've seen them take out of it was lip moisturizer, tampons, a phone charger, wet wipes, and makeup. Most of them keep their phones in the waist of their pants / skirt chapidora style.
Hello all,
This will be my second trip to Cartagena as I went last year around this time. I added a review on how my trip went as well. As always thanks for the info on this great city. I was wondering if anyone had great leads on Chica Friendly AirBNB's. I'm booked at a Hotel but I'm thinking that an AirBNB would make the trip a whole lot better. Thank you in advance. Happy Hunting.How many people?
How much are you willing to spend per night?
What is your criteria? (hot water important?, security?
What location you're looking for? (Boca Grande, el laguito, Getsemani, Centro) Getsemani will be the ones with no security and private pools or jacuzzi. Centro too but not all.
Let me know and ill send you some links.
I know many properties most are with a private rooftop pool or jacuzzi, on my last trip I realized many of them were "turned off" on Airbnb and many of them now have new rules due to the stupid things that's been happening recently.
Elvis 2008
11-08-22, 04:33
Weather is awful. She has not left our place in 2 days. She told me streets are flooded. Weather forecast is for more and more rain. Streets there are very prone to flooding. She told me much of Bocagrande is closed. Much less rain in December thank God.
World Wide Wes
11-08-22, 05:04
Thanks for the reply Nypher. I especially love your posts for Cartagena. It was literally most of your post that made my trip amazing last year. As far as this upcoming trip. Looking for minimum 2 bedroom 2 bathroom hot water / security are important. I'the prefer to be in Centro or not too.
Far from it. Budget for lodging shouldn't exceed 350 per night.
How many people?
How much are you willing to spend per night?
What is your criteria? (hot water important?, security?
What location you're looking for? (Boca Grande, el laguito, Getsemani, Centro) Getsemani will be the ones with no security and private pools or jacuzzi. Centro too but not all.
Let me know and ill send you some links.
I know many properties most are with a private rooftop pool or jacuzzi, on my last trip I realized many of them were "turned off" on Airbnb and many of them now have new rules due to the stupid things that's been happening recently.
World Wide Wes
11-08-22, 12:01
Thanks for the reply and your continued contributions to the forum. I'm interested in a 2 bed 2 bath minimum. Essentials are hot water, kitchen, private pool, and security. Centro would be ideal since I don't want to be too far from shops, restaurants, and the action. $275 for lodging per day would be the max. Hope to hear from you soon.
How many people?
How much are you willing to spend per night?
What is your criteria? (hot water important?, security?
What location you're looking for? (Boca Grande, el laguito, Getsemani, Centro) Getsemani will be the ones with no security and private pools or jacuzzi. Centro too but not all.
Let me know and ill send you some links.
I know many properties most are with a private rooftop pool or jacuzzi, on my last trip I realized many of them were "turned off" on Airbnb and many of them now have new rules due to the stupid things that's been happening recently.
JerryTheGreat
11-08-22, 20:24
I was in Cartagena for 3 nights during a 7 day trip to Colombia.
Day 1.
First off, the weather was absolutely perfect the whole time I was there. The weather app said rain every day but it didn't rain once, this was a few days before Halloween. I got into Cartagena around 5 pm from Bogota, I was staying at the be Haus Hotel in El Centro. The room had a balcony with a jacuzzi. The hotel was one block from exito, stocked up, and headed out to hunt at 7 pm. Big mistake, it was dead, nothing was happening, a few misplaced uggos around the clocktower. By 8:30 it started to pickup, but I was sweating a second ocean so I went back for a quick shower.
9 pm it was absolutely packed with WGs. I've never seen so many 4's and 5's, or so it seemed. It was a weird vibe, like I would have sex with any of these women, but they were all so mediocre standing next to each other I was waiting for a jewel to shine through. I was basically doing laps from La Dolce Vita to the clocktower. The guys would let me into the clubs to look, but it was garbage. One side was packed with Americans with some amazing girls at their tables, while the other side with the bar was a looooong line of rejects. I don't think doing laps was the right thing to do though, the clocktower had the ugliest women, and I don't think many WGs walk to the clubs, I saw many get dropped off right in front. I didn't feel like spending $100-$200 at the clubs just to be able to wait for a prize to walk through.
I went into a supermarket at one point, I was about to buy a bag of ice, but saw a bag tore open in the freezer, quickly grabbed a ball of ice and left. I was walking around rubbing the ice on myself, looking like an absolute mess until 11 pm, when through a thick crowd two chicitas emerged. It was sudden and startling, she was like 6 inches from my face, and then we smiled at each other and that sealed the deal. Cute little braced faced (legal) teeny bopper named Sophie. Her and her friend wanted 800 k for the night but I was not interested in her friend. Ended up at 400 k for the night. We stopped by a restaurant where we sat on a balcony overlooking a park. There I witnessed a coche driver getting dragged out of his carriage by the police, massive crowd around him and he was getting slapped around, a lot of shouting. Sorry the details couldn't be better, but I was honestly too captivated with this chicita and her big brown eyes. Had a couple of drinks, walked back to my hotel, had a good sex session, we went out to the jacuzzi and smoked a joint, then her attitude changed. When will I learn, nobody wants to work high. Went back in for a second shot halfway through cowgirl she gets off, gives me this look and says you finish yourself off. I was livid. Held her down, let her starfish, and did all the work, but I wasn't going to jerk myself off. Finished and told her to gtfo, this was at like 3 am. When will I learn these overnights never work, better to negotiate a good price for 2-3 hours.
Day 2.
Woke up and went to Uraku Spa the next morning. I was looking for a good, upscale clean massage and this place was right across the street from my hotel. Someone here mentioned walking past this place and wondering if they do extras, DEFINITELY NOT, not that kind of place, but I needed a pro massage and this place was great, although overpriced 180 k+20 k tip. When nighttime rolled in, I again started too early around 8 pm, it was dead. This was Thursday night and it was a lot quieter than the night before, even when 9 pm rolled around, the talent was relatively sparse so I went into the clocktower pub in the square to kill some time and watch the Bucs embarrass themselves. Met a cool guy from Wisconsin. By the time the game ended I was getting worried, it was like 10:30 and the streets were still empty. Same, ugly reject standing by the statue waiting for someone drunk enough to pick them up. Walked into the clubs, loud, packed, even if there was talent, I wouldn't be able to properly check it out by briefly walking through. I found a cute girl standing outside the club, tried to talk to her, she wanted 1. 500.000 for 2 hours. Absolutely ridiculous, got her number, offered 900 k 30 min later (I was starting to panic I was going to have blue balls for the night), and she never texted me back. Who is paying her 1.5 M? Talked to a couple more girls who wanted ridiculous sums like $200 USD for 1 hour. I was starting to feel pretty disgusted about the whole thing when I came across a beautiful Afro-Latina from Cali by the name of Cielo.
What one would consider light skinned in the US, with fake green lenses and beautiful freckles across her face. Cali Markle I would call her. After some tense negotiating, she rolled her eyes and said yes to 200 k for 1 hour. Walked back to my place, the guy at the reception gave me the BIGGEST grin, I think he liked her too. I generally like detailing the hunt not the sex, I'm not an adult novelist. She put on a show, where I proceeded to nut 3 times in just over an hour. She was great, I gave her 250 k, and called it a night, except I forgot I had not eaten all day. My main criticism of Cartagena is that there are NO late night food delivery options, ended up waiting like 40 minutes for a burger and fries from rappi, I got a meal for the front desk guy too.
Day 3.
Called Cielo and arranged to go to the beach. I had a reservation at the Ermita but I liked be Haus so much I didn't leave. But me and Cielo did go to the Ermita at like 3 pm. We fucked in the room before going up to the rooftop pool cabana area. It was super chill, rubbed oil on each other, could feel every guy's jealousy there. Had some drinks, talked, then went back to the room for one more round. Checked out to the bemusement of the front desk staff. I guess they are not used to many people using their 5-star hotel as a quick time brothel. We went to the small playa across the road, which I learned was very crappy, but we sat on a log, held each other and watched the sunset.
I had to go pick up some laundry (I love Cartagena, you literally just knock on the door of some casa, a lady opens up, invites you into her living room, and takes your laundry.) then I took Cielo to San Nicolas restaurant in Getsemani. Great place. We went back to be Haus where we had 2 more rounds. We both expressed the desire to be done by 9, we finished up around 9:30. She didn't specify how much, I gave her 550 k. Walked her downstairs where I thought we were going to part ways, but we ended up walking around El Centro and sitting at a park bench for like an hour. I'm only on unit 2 of duolingo but I was doing pretty good between my knowledge and google translate. Ended up giving her a kiss goodnight around 10:30 and walked to Getsemani to join my Wisconsin friend I met the other night.
It was Friday night and Getsemani was absolutely packed. Very lively, people doing salsa in the streets. Plus the beers were like 5 k instead of 20 k across the wall. Lot of backpackers and broke, young tourists staying in hostels. I was starting to feel the excitement of the civilian hunt again. We went to a few clubs, tried our shot with pretty every civilian with no success. Oh now I remember why I just pay for it. Ended up asking a hot Venezuelan to dance, and we did for like 30 min, hot grinding, salsa, everything, before she finally asked for money. Honestly, I would have done it if I was not already sexually satisfied, this is way better than trying to awkwardly ask for prices in the middle of the street, but I was either going free or going home. I went home around 2 am, but Getsemani was wild, definitely will be spending more time here next visit.
Before going home though I was accosted by dozens of desperate WGs trying to make their night. I entertained some, talking and practicing your negotiation skills is free. A really drunk girl walked up to me swearing about venezuelans and how colombians are much prettier (I'm guessing she found a customer but got cucked by a prettier Venezuelan), she 'made' me feel her natural tits, she was alright honestly, maybe a 6. She proceeded to quote me 1 million for an erotic massage. I tried to contain my laughter. That's exactly what I want to do, spend $200 for some punch drunk working girl to knead for 5 minutes before passing out / throwing up on top of me. I said 400 k, she said yes, I ran away, and pulled my calf in the process. Who is the genius that decided leaving all those manholes open is a great idea?
Total spend on chicas 400+250+550=1. 200.000 COP or $250 for 3 nights.
BTW who is this Big Bunny fellow? I swear every girl I brought back was playing his music at my hotel.
I was in Cartagena for 3 nights during a 7 day trip to Colombia.
Total spend on chicas 400+250+550=1. 200.000 COP or $250 for 3 nights.
BTW who is this Big Bunny fellow? I swear every girl I brought back was playing his music at my hotel.Yes, girls are asking for very high numbers and people are paying those high numbers which is why they think they are worth that much. If she makes that in 1. 500.000. 00 COP in one night she doesn't have to work for about 3 months. Its crazy, because allot of my girls who came to see me have iPhone 12 Pro Max which is about $1000 here but there around 6.000.000. 00 COP so they are getting paid. Usually, I use them to break the green 100 K COP bills and just take their 50 K COP bills they earned the prior night.
The Bad Bunny thing is all over Latin America. Every time I go they are ballasting another one of his songs in the club or in the apartment. On my last trip it was non stop Efecto, Moscow Mule, Titi Me Pregunto (aka the VIP song), fucked up that now I'm back stateside every time I hear the songs I flash back to those crazy sex sessions.
Then there are some of my barrio chicks that blast Doja Kat, that WAP song, and Cardi be. They know all the lyrics to the songs in English and sing the song perfectly with the song but they don't speak any sort of English. Its an ongoing joke I have with them every time I they come over and they start blasting the music jajaja.
Thanks for the reply and your continued contributions to the forum. I'm interested in a 2 bed 2 bath minimum. Essentials are hot water, kitchen, private pool, and security. Centro would be ideal since I don't want to be too far from shops, restaurants, and the action. $275 for lodging per day would be the max. Hope to hear from you soon.I know two that fits that price point, one is right next to Delirium the other is further up closer to the wall.
I know two others but no security and the price will be about $450 a night, but streaming hot water and private pool.
You need PM enables so I can send you the listings to see if they are available for your stay.
Hopefully you are not going anytime soon as its the rainy season and my chicas keep telling me its lots of floods and blocked roads with water so many girls are not going out. Boca Grande and El Laguito is at sea level so all of that is under water when it rains.
JerryTheGreat
11-09-22, 23:00
I was in Cartagena for 3 nights during a 7 day trip to Colombia.
Some pics of Cielo, I tried to get myself out as best as I can, I don't think I emphasized enough how freakin' cute she was.
DonCarlos1234
11-11-22, 23:31
Some pics of Cielo, I tried to get myself out as best as I can, I don't think I emphasized enough how freakin' cute she was.Wow Jerry, Congrats. Terrific memories. Cute girl is an understatement. I find them on SA like that but not many and not cheap. Others have posted uninviting reviews about things in Cartagena so I was putting it off and doing Medellin / Bogota starting Thanksgiving. The humidity also bothers me but sounds like after 10-11 pm is the best time. I still want to scuba dive so after reading your posting. In only 3 nights? I guess I can do all 3 cities in my 3 week trip. Rethinking hotels etc. Now.
DonCarlos1234
11-12-22, 00:17
Weather is awful. She has not left our place in 2 days. She told me streets are flooded. Weather forecast is for more and more rain. Streets there are very prone to flooding. She told me much of Bocagrande is closed. Much less rain in December thank God.I will be in Medellin for T Day. Then probably Cartagena around December 1 for 4-5 days. I am searching for an adult doctor who has the magic love potion which makes a man secret gobs of sperm. LOL YOU prescribed V-8 and XYZTravel prescribed Pygeun & Lecithin. "take a handful with lots of water" in addition I found Semapro on Amazon. What's a guy to do?
TouristInLust
11-12-22, 02:37
I was in Cartagena for 3 nights during a 7 day trip to Colombia..Great trip report. You are a good writer. Looking forward to reading more of your reports.
Regarding learning Spanish, there are many beginner / intermediate friendly youtube channels with short stories that help you improve with better context than Duolingo. I have been learning of and on since I started visiting Mexico about 5 years ago, I think the biggest hurdle to get over is to be able to understand natives (especially Mexicans, they speak so fast), for that listening to short stories with subtitles help a lot to practice listening ability.
And if you are really motivated, online lessons over Zoom start around $8-10/ hour for Mexico and Colombia based tutors.
Elvis 2008
11-12-22, 10:30
I will be in Medellin for T Day. Then probably Cartagena around December 1 for 4-5 days. I am searching for an adult doctor who has the magic love potion which makes a man secret gobs of sperm. LOL YOU prescribed V-8 and XYZTravel prescribed Pygeun & Lecithin. "take a handful with lots of water" in addition I found Semapro on Amazon. What's a guy to do?All of the above? But I assume no responsibility if a car hits you and you pop like a white zit.
I will be in Cartagena from December 22 to 25. It would be cool if you were around then.
Some pics of Cielo, I tried to get myself out as best as I can, I don't think I emphasized enough how freakin' cute she was.That is one stunning lady.
JerryTheGreat
11-12-22, 23:05
Wow Jerry, Congrats. Terrific memories. Cute girl is an understatement. I find them on SA like that but not many and not cheap. Others have posted uninviting reviews about things in Cartagena so I was putting it off and doing Medellin / Bogota starting Thanksgiving. The humidity also bothers me but sounds like after 10-11 pm is the best time. I still want to scuba dive so after reading your posting. In only 3 nights? I guess I can do all 3 cities in my 3 week trip. Rethinking hotels etc. Now.I did leave out some unsavory things. My first night I was trying to buy a meat skewer when the rappers showed up. Ignored them. Then one of them touched my shoes and said something about originals (they were new white adidas originals), I stepped back, pushed the guy away, and squared up (even though he was twice my size). Starting shouting 'don't touch' 'back the f** up' real loud a few times, they made some insulting comments and walked away, I was not bothered again by rappers during the rest of my stay. El Centro is deceivingly small, and I believe they are very organized and connected, go over the top aggro once, and I think they all get the message. As for the non-stop 'Hey bro, what jew looking for?' (which is a very anti-semitic question) I found that 'Senor, yo busco tranquillo' gets them off the first time vs. The 15 x no gracias. Also, I had to shave my mustache I had been growing for over a year because of the non-stop 'hey Pablo' , 'hey escobar I see jew'.
As for the weather, I am from a cold, dry city so I also struggled with Cartagena's weather. Very similar to Miami. I was sweating like an animal, rubbing pieces of ice on my self, complete mess. The girls were customary to this, and were unfazed. Plus I got in the habit of taking a shower before and after sex anyway.
Great trip report. You are a good writer. Looking forward to reading more of your reports.Thanks, man! Will be in Dubai Dec 1 and back in Colombia at the end of January, but I want to do Medellin this time.
First of all thanks a lot to everybody contributing info here, this is really helpful!
I have been travelling a couple of time to Thailand and Philippines and have had really amazing times over there. For a couple of reasons now I am coming first time to South America / Colombia. It appears to be a much bigger hassle getting reasonable flights (from my destination in Europe at least) as well as a guest-friendly accommodation and women are more pricey plus the security issues. So I hope it will be worth it.
Flights are fixed already (5th to 22nd of December). I just want to share with you a contradictory info to what I have read here in the forum. As I got tired of writing to dozens of Airbnb's regarding their guest policy and running out of time on top I decided to just book the highly recommended Ermita Cartagena Hotel (a Tribute Portfolio Hotel). Actually a bit above my price range, but I thought it will save me a lot of trouble and it actually looks pretty nice. Just to be on the safe side I wrote an email to the front desk and asked about their guest policy. To my surprise this was their anser:
"You are allowed to bring a different female guest in the days of your stay. Nevertheless, for each occasion you must pay $360.000 COP. "
I was really surprised. Maybe they have changed their policy just recently or they don't execute this rule consitently. However, I surely will not take the risk.
First of all thanks a lot to everybody contributing info here, this is really helpful!
I have been travelling a couple of time to Thailand and Philippines and have had really amazing times over there. For a couple of reasons now I am coming first time to South America / Colombia. It appears to be a much bigger hassle getting reasonable flights (from my destination in Europe at least) as well as a guest-friendly accommodation and women are more pricey plus the security issues. So I hope it will be worth it.
Flights are fixed already (5th to 22nd of December). I just want to share with you a contradictory info to what I have read here in the forum. As I got tired of writing to dozens of Airbnb's regarding their guest policy and running out of time on top I decided to just book the highly recommended Ermita Cartagena Hotel (a Tribute Portfolio Hotel). Actually a bit above my price range, but I thought it will save me a lot of trouble and it actually looks pretty nice. Just to be on the safe side I wrote an email to the front desk and asked about their guest policy. To my surprise this was their anser:
"You are allowed to bring a different female guest in the days of your stay. Nevertheless, for each occasion you must pay $360.000 COP. ".
I was really surprised. Maybe they have changed their policy just recently or they don't execute this rule consitently. However, I surely will not take the risk.
First of all thanks a lot to everybody contributing info here, this is really helpful!.........................
For a couple of reasons now I am coming first time to South America / Colombia. It appears to be a Just to be on the safe side I wrote an email to the front desk and asked about their guest policy. To my surprise this was their anser:
"You are allowed to bring a different female guest in the days of your stay. Nevertheless, for each occasion you must pay $360.000 COP. ".
I was really surprised. Maybe they have changed their policy just recently or they don't execute this rule consitently. However, I surely will not take the risk.So you are essentially paying double every time you bring in a girl because the girl will be around the same price for the hour. If I was in your shoes I would double check if bringing the same girl multiple times would it be a 1-time charge or an additional charge every time she comes.
JerryTheGreat
11-19-22, 03:50
I was really surprised. Maybe they have changed their policy just recently or they don't execute this rule consitently. However, I surely will not take the risk.Bobbo123's report from last month also mentioned a 380 k girl fee. I checked in and checked out with my girl, so she was a guest, not a visitor and I was not charged. I would go off the email you got in terms of their visitor policy. The jacuzzi suite at the BHaus hotel was cheaper than the ermita, they were totally cool about chicas, and closer to the action in el centro and getsemani.
World Wide Wes
11-19-22, 21:26
I recently stayed at the Ermita for my trip to Cartagena and I was also upset at the visitor policy charge. I thought maybe I could talk my way out of it but the hotel front desk guys are pretty tough. I was able to replace 1 chica for a new one the second night but after that they refused to budge.
On another note my trip was amazing. We were there during the Independence Day festivities and on Friday afternoon the city shutdown the street in front of the Ermita for a carnival. It was jam packed from 3 pm until 7 pm with party revelers. We were able to watch the whole thing from the rooftop. One guy that I struck a conversation with was covered in paint and was stressed due to the fact he got robbed of his wallet and phone. I really felt bad for the guy but I'm sure he'll move a little more cautious and with awareness now.
Other than the visitor charge at Ermita my stay was amazing.
First of all thanks a lot to everybody contributing info here, this is really helpful.
I have been travelling a couple of time to Thailand and Philippines and have had really amazing times over there. For a couple of reasons now I am coming first time to South America / Colombia. It appears to be a much bigger hassle getting reasonable flights (from my destination in Europe at least) as well as a guest-friendly accommodation and women are more pricey plus the security issues. So I hope it will be worth it.
Flights are fixed already (5th to 22nd of December). I just want to share with you a contradictory info to what I have read here in the forum. As I got tired of writing to dozens of Airbnb's regarding their guest policy and running out of time on top I decided to just book the highly recommended Ermita Cartagena Hotel (a Tribute Portfolio Hotel). Actually a bit above my price range, but I thought it will save me a lot of trouble and it actually looks pretty nice. Just to be on the safe side I wrote an email to the front desk and asked about their guest policy. To my surprise this was their anser:
"You are allowed to bring a different female guest in the days of your stay. Nevertheless, for each occasion you must pay $360.000 COP. ".
I was really surprised. Maybe they have changed their policy just recently or they don't execute this rule consitently. However, I surely will not take the risk.
What are the overnight going rates for ctg these days? I'm assuming hourly is still 200-300?
What are the overnight going rates for ctg these days? I'm assuming hourly is still 200-300?Rates depends on many factors.
My my last trip in October many of my girls in Centro (even the ones I known for years) were now asking for $100 or 400 K pesos for one leche during the day.
I didn't bother taking any new girls overnight so I stuck with my usuals who were 500 K or no charge for the night.
Of course someone can get chicas for lower prices but beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so you may have to be specific on the type of girl you are looking for and prices they were asking.
For example if you like them surgery up with all the fake stuff you will end up paying allot, unless you get them at the last minute when they are desperate or after they been ran through all day / night. Big girls VS in shape ones, I was seeing allot of girls put on some serious weight to the point they were still trying to squeeze into outfits they have no cause in. Then there are the ones with the hood look, the new trend is tattoos all over their body especially chest tattoos.
Then there is the whole Venezuelans are cheaper than Colombians, are you asking for GFE, light or dark, pro BS non pro, 18 year old newbie vs hardened 30 year old, etc.
I know it appears all granular just for the price of a nut, but all this plays into the price.
PerkinWarbeck
11-21-22, 21:21
What are the overnight going rates for ctg these days? I'm assuming hourly is still 200-300?Depends on you and the girl. You will get a huge range if you ask around. I would suggest short timing with the girl to see if she behaves before committing to that.
First of all thanks a lot to everybody contributing info here, this is really helpful!
I have been travelling a couple of time to Thailand and Philippines and have had really amazing times over there. For a couple of reasons now I am coming first time to South America / Colombia. It appears to be a much bigger hassle getting reasonable flights (from my destination in Europe at least) as well as a guest-friendly accommodation and women are more pricey plus the security issues. So I hope it will be worth it.
Flights are fixed already (5th to 22nd of December). I just want to share with you a contradictory info to what I have read here in the forum. As I got tired of writing to dozens of Airbnb's regarding their guest policy and running out of time on top I decided to just book the highly recommended Ermita Cartagena Hotel (a Tribute Portfolio Hotel). Actually a bit above my price range, but I thought it will save me a lot of trouble and it actually looks pretty nice. Just to be on the safe side I wrote an email to the front desk and asked about their guest policy. To my surprise this was their anser:
"You are allowed to bring a different female guest in the days of your stay. Nevertheless, for each occasion you must pay $360.000 COP. ".
I was really surprised. Maybe they have changed their policy just recently or they don't execute this rule consitently. However, I surely will not take the risk.Ermita hotel was guest friendly with no charge when I went there in May if this year. Girls just have to sign a paper at front desk. I do not know what the paper said. I booked through Marriott because it is supposedly their brand or they own it. I was given a pretty good room on the ground floor with big bathroom, powder room and big bedroom with king bed. Maybe they changed the rules now. When I went it was just after covid and probably they want to be nice to all guests. Maybe word got around and too many mongers were bringing many girls a day. It was approximately $100 per day with breakfast for two. There were some South Americans staying there with family. Maybe they want to attract more such families. But Cartagena hookers dress decent by South American standards where all girls advertise their body and nobody would know unlike many other parts of the world.
I liked the quiet location across the beach and walking distance to walled city and clock tower. There were many locals selling food nearby tasty and dirt cheap. Area seemed to cater to locals with fishermen selling their catch on the beach. I walked all hours and never felt threatened. For me the trip was on my bucket list but not necessarily for mongering. Mongering for me best is Southeast Asia especially Philippines. But I had some fun in Cartagena. Fellow board member thanks to him helped me I couldn't partake because I was not into that girl. She was all business which I do not like.
Wrapping a good week in Cartagena! On the beach all day, salsa bars at night. Only hung with chicas I already know. No new chicas.
Lots of stories of drugging and robberies by chicas. Even 2 guys who live here got hit. A guy in my building got drunk and a chica walked out with his phone and some cash. They say the police aren't doing much about it.
So play safe guys!
PerkinWarbeck
11-29-22, 01:46
Centro is legitimately dangerous now. The influx of American money has attracted the scammers and thrives and they are going crazy in the city walls. Weirdly, the walk to Getsemani is actually pretty quiet. Unless it's for dinner or the clubs, there's no reason to be walking outside after 10 PM within the walls.
I was assaulted by about five chicks who surrounded me fairly early one evening about a month ago. They were all hanging out in front of the street leading from the reloj plaza towards Plaza Madrid. Wrote a report about it at the time. Cartagena has lost its charm as far as I am concerned. In the end, nothing bad happened to me as I punched one of the girls in her stomach as she attempted to grab my phone or wallet from my pocket. They backed off after that. And that's quite the handle you have, Mr. Warbeck! Yes, I also found the walk to Getesamani pleasant with no hassles until you reach Reloj.
Centro is legitimately dangerous now. The influx of American money has attracted the scammers and thrives and they are going crazy in the city walls. Weirdly, the walk to Getsemani is actually pretty quiet. Unless it's for dinner or the clubs, there's no reason to be walking outside after 10 PM within the walls.
The Tall Man
11-29-22, 17:44
Centro is legitimately dangerous now. The influx of American money has attracted the scammers and thrives and they are going crazy in the city walls. Weirdly, the walk to Getsemani is actually pretty quiet. Unless it's for dinner or the clubs, there's no reason to be walking outside after 10 PM within the walls.
I was assaulted by about five chicks who surrounded me fairly early one evening about a month ago. They were all hanging out in front of the street leading from the reloj plaza towards Plaza Madrid. Wrote a report about it at the time. Cartagena has lost its charm as far as I am concerned. In the end, nothing bad happened to me as I punched one of the girls in her stomach as she attempted to grab my phone or wallet from my pocket. They backed off after that. And that's quite the handle you have, Mr. Warbeck! Yes, I also found the walk to Getesamani pleasant with no hassles until you reach Reloj.So true, after years of visits to Cartagena for both travel fun and playtime with the chicas, I still spend weeks / months on the coast and do this a few times each year BUT I have zero interest in any chica there, zero, just too much hassle and risk and expense and I have no patience for dealing with all the nonsense, no thanks.
The Tall Man.
PerkinWarbeck
11-30-22, 02:01
It's not the cartgeneras that's the problem. It's the ladies that come from outside and the Venezuelans. I don't frequent the prepago scene much at all anymore, so I stick to meeting regular costeñas, and they are lovely. Try chatting up the girls at a restaurant or store. Or try picking them up at the clubs in Getsemani. You will find some semi pros there who are a lot less business like.
RubberDuckyBos
11-30-22, 16:04
Wrapping a good week in Cartagena! On the beach all day, salsa bars at night. Only hung with chicas I already know. No new chicas.
Lots of stories of drugging and robberies by chicas. Even 2 guys who live here got hit. A guy in my building got drunk and a chica walked out with his phone and some cash. They say the police aren't doing much about it.
So play safe guys!If you are staying somewhere with a security guy up front or required sign in for guests, I assume that's pretty safe right? Unlikely to get set up or drugged (unless security guy is in on the action I guess)?
If you are staying somewhere with a security guy up front or required sign in for guests, I assume that's pretty safe right? Unlikely to get set up or drugged (unless security guy is in on the action I guess)?Not exactly.
This is not like Thailand.
Even if the girl signs in, or leave her ID at the front desk, in many places the chica can just walk out or pick up the ID and leave. Most security do not call the gringo to make sure he gives the OK to let her leave or have a policy where the chica cannot get her ID back unless the gringo comes to the desk with her. If the girl is Colombian little to nothing will be done.
I've been in many buildings with security, and they just prevent people from coming in, not leaving. The girls just leave, and on the way-out security cut the band off of their wrist. If the gringo was drugged and robbed no one will know until the gringo wakes up, if he wakes up. Then the gringo can file a police report which goes little to nowhere.
AmoMedellin
12-01-22, 12:00
It's not the cartgeneras that's the problem. It's the ladies that come from outside and the Venezuelans. I don't frequent the prepago scene much at all anymore, so I stick to meeting regular costeas, and they are lovely. Try chatting up the girls at a restaurant or store. Or try picking them up at the clubs in Getsemani. You will find some semi pros there who are a lot less business like.Paisas seem to everywhere, ; prepagos, webcam, pornstars, dating, models.
Are the difference really so great to the Paisas advantage?
I met a paisa in Medellin once and she had moved to Bogota to "be a 10, here I'm only a 6".
I asked a Colombian friend, and he confirmed, and I think its true since he is costeno, but living in Medellin.
But then now they say that Cartagena is like a magnet.
Girls from all over the country the 9/10's, they go to Cartagena to meet gringos.
You get the costeno style of life, super-relaxed + the majority of alll prepagos of 9/10 quality are working in Cartagena.
Seems what is socially or culturally allowed in one city like Medelllin or Cali is not allowed in Bogota.
If you speak some Spanish, can you ask such a prepago to come to Scandinavia and live here?
Or maybe gringos-extranjeros on vacation in Cartagena already overpay so much so its not a good option for her, to live in Europe?
If you are staying somewhere with a security guy up front or required sign in for guests, I assume that's pretty safe right? Unlikely to get set up or drugged (unless security guy is in on the action I guess)?You would think having security would stop these problems but it's not. Security may be in on it. I've heard multiple stories of drugging and robberies where the Chica left the building somehow. I'm also hearing the policía isn't too interested on these cases.
So while I would never stay anywhere without security, it's no guarantee.
Be really careful with any chica you don't know.
RubberDuckyBos
12-01-22, 17:15
You would think having security would stop these problems but it's not. Security may be in on it. I've heard multiple stories of drugging and robberies where the Chica left the building somehow. I'm also hearing the polica isn't too interested on these cases.
So while I would never stay anywhere without security, it's no guarantee.
Be really careful with any chica you don't know.Wouldn't they have a copy of their ID, and their name from sign-in (which I assume matches ID)? Also, at least it would prevent issues where a crew comes in and cleans you out. With just 1 girl, if you're careful and watch what you eat / drink and keep your stuff locked away, you're less at risk.
What about insisting on taking selfies with whoever you take home? Do you think this would deter efforts to drug you, since her face is on your phone now. Taking a picture of ID would be safer but less likely to comply, but a selfie is harmless enough?
PerkinWarbeck
12-01-22, 20:28
Paisas seem to everywhere, ; prepagos, webcam, pornstars, dating, models.
Are the difference really so great to the Paisas advantage?
I met a paisa in Medellin once and she had moved to Bogota to "be a 10, here I'm only a 6".
I asked a Colombian friend, and he confirmed, and I think its true since he is costeno, but living in Medellin.
But then now they say that Cartagena is like a magnet.
Girls from all over the country the 9/10's, they go to Cartagena to meet gringos.
You get the costeno style of life, super-relaxed + the majority of alll prepagos of 9/10 quality are working in Cartagena.
Seems what is socially or culturally allowed in one city like Medelllin or Cali is not allowed in Bogota.
If you speak some Spanish, can you ask such a prepago to come to Scandinavia and live here?
Or maybe gringos-extranjeros on vacation in Cartagena already overpay so much so its not a good option for her, to live in Europe?Paisas are prized because they are white skinned and have access to Medellin's terrific plastic surgery industry. Their bodies are by far the best in the country and probably the world.
And why would you want a working girl to live with you? If you want a Colombian wife, why not find a regular girl. If you are the typical Swede or Norwegian, you are probably in a good spot to attract a regular, good looking Colombiana, who will gladly marry you and move to a world class country. Why bother with a ran through working girl, when you can get an early 20's college student with way less mileage?
Wouldn't they have a copy of their ID, and their name from sign-in (which I assume matches ID)? Also, at least it would prevent issues where a crew comes in and cleans you out. With just 1 girl, if you're careful and watch what you eat / drink and keep your stuff locked away, you're less at risk.
What about insisting on taking selfies with whoever you take home? Do you think this would deter efforts to drug you, since her face is on your phone now. Taking a picture of ID would be safer but less likely to comply, but a selfie is harmless enough?The guy who had his phone stole, and one of the guys who got drugged and robbed were both in buildings with security. Both chicas were able to leave the building. Also both buildings had copies of the cedul and one guy had pics of the girls. In both cases the polica took the reports, but basically did nothing. The guy who had his phone stole said the polica made some excuse about the cedula probably being fake.
My point is the polica are not supporting anyone who gets jammed up with a bar chica. So be extra careful right now. Play safe gentlemen.
Paisas are prized because they are white skinned and have access to Medellin's terrific plastic surgery industry. Their bodies are by far the best in the country and probably the world......Brazilian women definitely have the best bodies in the world.
The guy who had his phone stole, and one of the guys who got drugged and robbed were both in buildings with security. Both chicas were able to leave the building. Also both buildings had copies of the cedul and one guy had pics of the girls. In both cases the polica took the reports, but basically did nothing. The guy who had his phone stole said the polica made some excuse about the cedula probably being fake.
My point is the polica are not supporting anyone who gets jammed up with a bar chica. So be extra careful right now. Play safe gentlemen. The polica will take a report but nothing else even an arrest. I work in Colombia 5 months of the year. I stay in a very good building with good security. All the guards have been there working for a while and I ask them, any Chica I come in with can't have their ID back until I come and give it to them because I hand it to them at sign-in. I wrote a report 8-9 months ago when an attempt was made to drug me, but the Chica got the drug beer not me because my little home camera recorder her and I watched it in real time on my phone while I was on my balcony. She drugged herself and passed out, I showed the tape to the guard that morning he woke her up and called polica. The polica watch the tape took a report ask me if she took any of my property, I told them no. They search her for drugs and left the building without her. I gave her 300,000 but she earns every cent last night. Here it is fact the polica will do nothing if a bar Chica tries to jam you up so be careful and safe.
If you speak some Spanish, can you ask such a prepago to come to Scandinavia and live here?
Or maybe gringos-extranjeros on vacation in Cartagena already overpay so much so its not a good option for her, to live in Europe?
And why would you want a working girl to live with you? If you want a Colombian wife, why not find a regular girl. If you are the typical Swede or Norwegian, you are probably in a good spot to attract a regular, good looking Colombiana, who will gladly marry you and move to a world class country. Why bother with a ran through working girl, when you can get an early 20's college student with way less mileage?I agree with Perkin Warbeck, although if your country has visa free access for Colombians it might make sense to get her to visit you for a couple of months or whatever. And yeah, a Cartagena working girl is likely to have higher price expectations than a hooker from another city, or a semipro or civilian.
NeilGeorge
12-05-22, 15:12
Brazilian women definitely have the best bodies in the world.Is that because of plastic surgery breast augmentation and lipo? Or natural?
Mr Enternational
12-05-22, 22:15
Is that because of plastic surgery breast augmentation and lipo? Or natural?Natural. I do not go near plastic.
The guy who had his phone stole, and one of the guys who got drugged and robbed were both in buildings with security. Both chicas were able to leave the building. Also both buildings had copies of the cedul and one guy had pics of the girls. In both cases the polica took the reports, but basically did nothing. The guy who had his phone stole said the polica made some excuse about the cedula probably being fake.
My point is the polica are not supporting anyone who gets jammed up with a bar chica. So be extra careful right now. Play safe gentlemen.Agree 100%. I may be one of the guys referenced as I wrote about my incident a few weeks back. Anyway, I was drugged on November 7th and filed the report November 11th. I received an email on the 12th my report had been received and that I'd be notified of a the assigned detective within 5 days. Nothing was sent and my two follow up emails went unanswered. Yesterday, December 6th, I received a templated email stating that my case was being closed as no suspects could be identified. I could certainly identify the suspect if they would have reached out to me or responded!
Anyway, I've reached out to my Paisa network and have identified a fixer with some pull in the police department. I'll keep you updated.
BTW. In case you didn't see, a girl was recently sentenced to almost 10 years for drugging a French guy. He was told Day De Papapay and essentially said fuck that and dogged her down, handing all of the evidence to the police on a platter.
Agree 100%. I may be one of the guys referenced as I wrote about my incident a few weeks back. Anyway, I was drugged on November 7th and filed the report November 11th. I received an email on the 12th my report had been received and that I'd be notified of a the assigned detective within 5 days. Nothing was sent and my two follow up emails went unanswered. Yesterday, December 6th, I received a templated email stating that my case was being closed as no suspects could be identified. I could certainly identify the suspect if they would have reached out to me or responded!
Anyway, I've reached out to my Paisa network and have identified a fixer with some pull in the police department. I'll keep you updated.
BTW. In case you didn't see, a girl was recently sentenced to almost 10 years for drugging a French guy. He was told Day De Papapay and essentially said fuck that and dogged her down, handing all of the evidence to the police on a platter.No I didn't hear about the girl getting 10 years, but good!
I only posted to make people aware so they can be more careful. When I got to Cartagena 11/19 the guys and one of my regular chicas gave me a complete rundown. But I hadn't heard much before I got there. Safe travels bros!
Wrapping a good week in Cartagena! On the beach all day, salsa bars at night. Only hung with chicas I already know. No new chicas.
Lots of stories of drugging and robberies by chicas. Even 2 guys who live here got hit. A guy in my building got drunk and a chica walked out with his phone and some cash. They say the police aren't doing much about it.
So play safe guys!Hi Guys,
In regards to playing safe, I'm travelling to Cartagena for my first time in late April. I've already found myself appropriate accommodations based on this site. What I need is advice about which girls to choose when I'm there considering all the druggings. I'm not going to lie, I love to party hard and I'm already prepping myself to take it easy in this regard. Getting too drunk or high will leave me exposed. What about only asking girls to come back to my place from established clubs in the city? Is that a safer bet for me than bringing girls home from the clock tower or tinder? I know some of the beach vendors offer girls to some of the tourists, should I go that way and does it reduce my risk of getting drugged if I use these guys and the girls they know? This being my first time, I don't expect to get top quality because I literally have no contacts out there. I monger in some other countries and have regulars there I could call for good, affordable, and most of all safe fun. However I've put my work in with those places, multiple trips, multiple years, etc. I just want to approach this town as cautious as possible without being a prude. Truth is I don't know the game out there. Any information on which girls to bring back and where I could find them in regards to reducing my overall risk would be appreciated.
Mr Enternational
12-14-22, 15:19
What I need is advice about which girls to choose when I'm there considering all the druggings. I'm not going to lie, I love to party hard and I'm already prepping myself to take it easy in this regard. Getting too drunk or high will leave me exposed.Pick your poison. Is fucking more important or is getting fucked up more important? You do not have to choose a chick in order to get drugged or robbed. You are the mark. Somebody can see you from far off and get you on gp. You do not want to be in a public space and not have your wits about you. Some chick drugging you is only part of a possible equation, while there are a myriad of other ways to get got.
PerkinWarbeck
12-14-22, 15:31
Hi Guys,
In regards to playing safe, I'm travelling to Cartagena for my first time in late April. I've already found myself appropriate accommodations based on this site. What I need is advice about which girls to choose when I'm there considering all the druggings. I'm not going to lie, I love to party hard and I'm already prepping myself to take it easy in this regard. Getting too drunk or high will leave me exposed. What about only asking girls to come back to my place from established clubs in the city? Is that a safer bet for me than bringing girls home from the clock tower or tinder? I know some of the beach vendors offer girls to some of the tourists, should I go that way and does it reduce my risk of getting drugged if I use these guys and the girls they know? This being my first time, I don't expect to get top quality because I literally have no contacts out there. I monger in some other countries and have regulars there I could call for good, affordable, and most of all safe fun. However I've put my work in with those places, multiple trips, multiple years, etc. I just want to approach this town as cautious as possible without being a prude. Truth is I don't know the game out there. Any information on which girls to bring back and where I could find them in regards to reducing my overall risk would be appreciated.1. If you are going to drink, do it in the clubs. And never leave it unattended. If you have your shot, take it there.
2. Never bring a muchacha back your place for the first time. Colombian women are shy, even the working ladies. If she offers to come to your place without having met you, it's a huge red flag. That's where you will be drugged. If you are going to meet a girl, take her to a short time hotel first to try her out. Hotel Mar Y Sol in Bocagrande (literally the only reason I go to Bocagrande anymore) is my favorite. Try her out a few times and if she behaves, then bring her back.
And you won't need contacts to get the best girls. You are not going to meet any full time working girls from Cartagena in Centro. These girls have families and word travels fast. The vast majority are Venezuelans or Colombians from other parts of the country, and they have no real network there.
If you want girls, don't use Tinder. The girls you see on Tinder will be in the clubs, Torre del Reloj, or the beaches in Bocagrande.
Hi Guys,
In regards to playing safe, I'm travelling to Cartagena for my first time in late April. I've already found myself appropriate accommodations based on this site. What I need is advice about which girls to choose when I'm there considering all the druggings. I'm not going to lie, I love to party hard and I'm already prepping myself to take it easy in this regard. Getting too drunk or high will leave me exposed. What about only asking girls to come back to my place from established clubs in the city? Is that a safer bet for me than bringing girls home from the clock tower or tinder? I know some of the beach vendors offer girls to some of the tourists, should I go that way and does it reduce my risk of getting drugged if I use these guys and the girls they know? This being my first time, I don't expect to get top quality because I literally have no contacts out there. I monger in some other countries and have regulars there I could call for good, affordable, and most of all safe fun. However I've put my work in with those places, multiple trips, multiple years, etc. I just want to approach this town as cautious as possible without being a prude. Truth is I don't know the game out there. Any information on which girls to bring back and where I could find them in regards to reducing my overall risk would be appreciated.I don't think there's a safe way to monger in Cartagena right now. Even guys who live there are getting got.
Fortunately I was going there before all of this started and being an old DR dude I made a point of building a network. I haven't really done any new chicas this year. I've stuck with the chicas on my team and I avoid delirium and doce. A little boring but safe. I'm telling all my friends not to go to Cartagena if you don't have contacts. My 2 cents.
Hi Guys,
In regards to playing safe, I'm travelling to Cartagena for my first time in late April. I've already found myself appropriate accommodations based on this site. What I need is advice about which girls to choose when I'm there considering all the druggings. I'm not going to lie, I love to party hard and I'm already prepping myself to take it easy in this regard. Getting too drunk or high will leave me exposed. What about only asking girls to come back to my place from established clubs in the city? Is that a safer bet for me than bringing girls home from the clock tower or tinder? I know some of the beach vendors offer girls to some of the tourists, should I go that way and does it reduce my risk of getting drugged if I use these guys and the girls they know? This being my first time, I don't expect to get top quality because I literally have no contacts out there. I monger in some other countries and have regulars there I could call for good, affordable, and most of all safe fun. However I've put my work in with those places, multiple trips, multiple years, etc. I just want to approach this town as cautious as possible without being a prude. Truth is I don't know the game out there. Any information on which girls to bring back and where I could find them in regards to reducing my overall risk would be appreciated.1. No one can tel you which girls to choose and your type f girl is your personal pefrance.
2. You can get drunk and high all you want just make sure you trust the girl who is there with you won't fuck you over. (I've blacked out a few times with different girls and when I came to about 12 hours later they were right there with me and they didn't ask for a penny extra from the agreed price before I blacked out) those girls have earned my trust I always se ethem when I return and can always recommend them to others.
3. Established clubs don't matter. The girls there don't work for the clubs and are all just random girls. If a girl fucks you over you can't go back to the club and complain one of their girls fucked you over.
4. ClockTower is bottom of the barrel. Tinder is basically everyone, I've met girls in then club who also had tinder profiles. But in my 5 years of experience going to Colombia I can tell you that I had a way more natural experience with the Tinder ones that picking them up off the street. Matter a fact, my Tinder ones are usually BBFS and the ones from the Club or ClockTower are usually hard hat for the little guy.
5. If you want to pay a premium then by all means go with the vendors catalog. Just know that many other lazy mongers did as well and you can get the hotdog down the hallway feeling. (I've been there, its both fascinating and sad at the same time).
6. There is no "game". Leave your jordans, gold chains, all your bling, wife beaters, and Yankee fitteds at home. Game will get you got and you don't want to be another story on youtube about another Gringo ending up dead because he tried to run game or swag.
To sum it up, your risk is how stupid you want to be out there. If you want to go with the purpose of getting ass then they will see you coming and take full advantage because lets face it the majority of people always go to the same exact places, Clocktower after dark, Playa Hollywood during the day, then at night Space, Dolce and Delirium. The girls already know this and the take advantage, Once you get outside of these 5 place things become better.
Your choice. Either take the advice from others whose been there and made the mistakes or go in blind.
Hello Guys,
Thank you very much for the responses. Definitely a lot of insight and I'll be sure to practice some common sense when I'm.
Out there. With these posts and some of the content I've been watching online, it seems like Colombia is a different animal in comparison to other mongering spots. I tend to keep a low profile in general when I travel as I usually go solo. This time will be no different.
Thanks again,
LobLaws.
Will be on a Cruise ship with a Port of call in Cartagena for one day, during the day. Recommendations anyone? I was looking at Mileroticos.
Since you are arriving during the daylight hours, there will be little or zero action on the streets of El Centro. I don't know whether the site you mentioned has woman who host but would think that is highly doubtful, which means you have to arrange a short time hotel for your liaison. When I was in Cartagena a few months ago, I met a friend and his wife who happened to be in Cartagena on a port of call visit. They had very little time to even meet me so you may want to check how long you can stay to catch the return to your cruise ship. Doesn't really seem worth the effort.
Will be on a Cruise ship with a Port of call in Cartagena for one day, during the day. Recommendations anyone? I was looking at Mileroticos.
Will be on a Cruise ship with a Port of call in Cartagena for one day, during the day. Recommendations anyone? I was looking at Mileroticos.https://www.facebook.com/people/El-paraiso-del-marino-club/100063939844670/
Hello guys, FYI, the hours for discos and bars were extended until 3:00 in the morning-.
- From December 21,2022, to January 14,2023: from 10 am To 3 am The following day.
- December 24,2022: from 10 am To 4 am The next day.
- December 31,2022: it will be able to operate 24 hours a day, until 4 in the morning of the following day.
Also and no less importantly I have new colleagues available, PM me for more info.
https://www.eluniversal.com.co/cartagena/es-oficial-estos-son-los-nuevos-horarios-para-la-rumba-en-cartagena-MF7667482
I haven't been to ctg since May. Can't say I had any issues or concerns.
I feel like reading the posts the last 2 months, the issues arise from not following rules, procedures. Whatever you want to call it that you should in this hobby.
First everything stays in the safe. Everything car keys, phone, passport, credit cards, extra cash, phone, jewelry, iPad, anything you don't want to lose! The second I get in the apartment my things go right in unless I'm absolutely alone.
If it's not a girl I really know, phone goes in the safe. Otherwise that's only thing I would keep out even with a known girl.
Drinks when I'm out go from the bartender straight to me and don't leave my hand. No shots from anyone. Nothing. Going to restroom it comes with me or get a new one. Same thing in the apartment with a girl. Drink doesn't leave me.
Tipping your guards, having the understanding a girl doesn't leave without you coming down or a call.
I feel like most this should or is standard practice. Yes we all slip up, make poor choices sometimes. But I feel like these are habits easy to form and stick to so you stay safe.
The Critic
12-27-22, 00:49
Drinks when I'm out go from the bartender straight to me and don't leave my hand. No shots from anyone. Nothing. Going to restroom it comes with me or get a new one. Same thing in the apartment with a girl. Drink doesn't leave me.
I feel like most this should or is standard practice. Yes we all slip up, make poor choices sometimes. But I feel like these are habits easy to form and stick to so you stay safe.
I also can't stress this enough always maintain possession of your drink. Even when in your room (apartment / hotel / etc.) and you have a visitor, and especially in clubs, and etc. If you have to go to the bathroom, take it with you. When drinking you never know who is working against your best interest.
MaddTraveler
12-27-22, 01:17
I haven't been to ctg since May. Can't say I had any issues or concerns.
I feel like reading the posts the last 2 months, the issues arise from not following rules, procedures. Whatever you want to call it that you should in this hobby.
First everything stays in the safe. Everything car keys, phone, passport, credit cards, extra cash, phone, jewelry, iPad, anything you don't want to lose! The second I get in the apartment my things go right in unless I'm absolutely alone.
If it's not a girl I really know, phone goes in the safe. Otherwise that's only thing I would keep out even with a known girl.
Drinks when I'm out go from the bartender straight to me and don't leave my hand. No shots from anyone. Nothing. Going to restroom it comes with me or get a new one. Same thing in the apartment with a girl. Drink doesn't leave me.
Tipping your guards, having the understanding a girl doesn't leave without you coming down or a call.
I feel like most this should or is standard practice. Yes we all slip up, make poor choices sometimes. But I feel like these are habits easy to form and stick to so you stay safe.Your suggestion is super simple yet EXTREMELY Important. Yet you'd be surprise on how many fail to follow these basic guides. I think it's bc of the new younger generation that doesn't have the discipline yet in this hobby. This used to be an older men's game as we all know. I'm lucky to have learned from them in my first days. But many many of these guys incl some of my friends think they're in Miami partying when in CTG or other spots. I even decided to not take anyone with me on these trips since I get too busy watching and coaching new dudes acting like they never see pussy, acting a fool LOL.
This make take years before we see a change. Cause once we fix we the way we move and act, the petty criminals drugging will move on to another hobby if they can't find no victim. It's all on us.
My thing is this. You go there to fuck, yeah a little dance and have a good time, but first and foremost we can all get drunk at home or a local bar. Focus on the pussy, drink moderately, keep your eyes on the prize. That's what's forgotten.
PigSavinBoy
01-07-23, 13:58
Stumbled upon some horror stories about Androgeno Latin club.
Trip Advisor:
If you're a tourist, AVOID this place! While in Cartagena Colombia, I went to this bar with some people from the UK. Once we got to the bar, we met some locals who offered us some drinks. Everything seemed fine, everybody seemed nice. Eventually as the night went on, the people from the UK decided to leave, and I decided to stay as I didn't feel at risk.
After being with the locals for a few minutes, I ordered two beers. One for me, and one for the local guy I had been chatting with. This is when things quickly escalated. The bar owner came over with a bill, asking for me to pay 10 X the price for two beers. Initially I said no, and asked them to correct it. He walked away for a moment, then returned back. "No, you must pay the bill or you're not going to leave the bar". I turned to go to the bathroom and as I came out, three men were standing next to the door with the EFTPOS machine asking me for even more money. I then realized I was in a lot of trouble. They grabbed me, took my visa and phone from my pocket, and began charging my card without my consent.
I then tried to exit the bar without my visa or phone. The bouncer at the exit said, "You're not leaving". I walked off and tried to find another way out. Eventually, I found an exit and took off running out of the exit. As I got through the door, I was chased by around 20 Colombians. I think I was also drugged before at the bar (this is common in Colombia), because as I was running, my legs gave out and I collapsed on the ground.
Once on the ground, I was attacked. I was kicked and punched repeatedly by multiple Colombian criminals. They carried me back to the bar, where they threw me on the floor, dragged me around, kicked me, and punched me. The police then came. These particular Colombian police were corrupt (also common in Colombia). They hogtied my legs, and handcuffed me. The police were laughing as the bar owners and their friends took their EFTPOS machine and continually transacted my VISA card.
After two hours of being kicked, punched, and having my money stolen, the police un-handcuffed me and left me with the criminals. The criminals then loaded me in a van. While I was getting into the van, one of the guys pulled out ammunition and cocked his pistol directly in my face. His friend waved a baseball bat; insinuating that I had better oblige, or be killed.
They drove me around to different little local ATMs and tried to make me withdraw more cash but the limit had already been reached. Once they realized there were no more funds for them to withdraw, they drove me down a side-road and dumped me out of the van. I then had to find my way back to my hostel. They still have my phone and VISA card.FB:
I literally just witnessed the WORST situation I could possibly think of concerning drugging and robbing. I was at Androgeno's nightclub in Cartagena which I found randomly on Google. Upon entering, I immediately felt as if something was off because the girl to guy ratio was insane. I could count the amount of men there were on my two hands. However there were at least 40 women. I stayed for about 20 minutes and waited for my uber inside before it arrived. Towards the entrance, there was a a white man that looked like the typical "gringo" who was falling over, couldn't keep his head up, and could barely stand. Because of the small amount of men present, I precisely remembered him dancing with a drink in his hand when I first arrived. The club's security was holding him up while a young girl was going through his pockets and unzipping his pants. This was also the same girl who briefly tried to talk to my brother when we first entered the club and she immediately asked if she could go back with him and have drinks, but he politely declined. The security guards at this club were holding up the man while the girl searched his pockets and quickly ran to get her two other friends. I tried to intervene and act like I knew the man and they quickly shut me down and told me to back off. They had a car outside waiting in which the clubs security carried the unconscious man inside first and the three girls got into the car. They tapped the car and screamed "hurry up, get out of here". And the car sped off, I tried to take a picture of the car and the security guard threatened me and put his hand up over my phone. In order to protect myself, I just walked away and kept quiet. Hearing all of the stories of foreigners robbed brings awareness however seeing it with my own bare eyes literally brought chills to my body. I'm up at 5 am writing this because I can't sleep thinking about this. Literally thinking that this was the same girl trying to talk to my 18 year old brother minutes before made it almost hit very close to home. Myself knowing that I put in all the effort I could to prevent anything else bad happening to this man but I wasn't able to do a single thing left me upset. The typical story of someone being drugged and robbed typically happens when they invite someone to their home, however this was a public place with many people around. I'm not sure how he could've played it any safer. Also seeing the employees contributing to such an awful crime literally shows that no one can be safe or trusted. I really hope there is some sort of action that can be taken from now on to ensure the safety of tourists in Colombia.
I've gone to this place a couple times but I've always had a local tour guide (those club promoters on the street) with me. It's definitely sketch but like all of Colombia you got to be on high alert all the time. I've had great times there but I surrounded myself with people that were-trusted. I was told by a local that there's locals that go there specifically to pickpocket foreigners. Even felt my pockets tugged a couple times that night but I already had the tip and one of those man purses on me with all my stuff. Sad to hear about what happened to everyone here with those bad experiences.
I went to this after hour club one time, by myself and completely blacked out. Don't remember anything that happened. Don't know how I got home and woke up to my phone missing. Had my watch, credit cards and some cash in my pocket. The worst hangover I had in my life woke up dizzy and tired for like 3 days. This club is in a shady industrial area near the port outside of the tourist zone. Promoters usually say this club is in Manga it's be. S it's after Manga in a shady zone where there is other burdels.
Mr Enternational
01-07-23, 19:27
Stumbled upon some horror stories about Androgeno Latin club.That is called being a non-streetwise inexperienced traveler. First there is no need for you to befriend local men. Say Hello, and exchange a few words, but do not go accepting drinks from people. Second, do not ask for anything that you have not seen or gotten the price for ahead of time.
About 20 years ago me and 2 buddies walked into a Cabaret in Nice, France. They straight ordered drinks while I asked for a menu. Upon opening the menu, I saw that the cheapest thing there was water st 35 euro. Their drinks were 40 euro each. Do not allow someone to capitalize from your ignorance. Ask for a menu and / or get prices up front.
Hello guys, FYI, the hours for discos and bars were extended until 3:00 in the morning-.
- From December 21,2022, to January 14,2023: from 10 am To 3 am The following day.
- December 24,2022: from 10 am To 4 am The next day.
- December 31,2022: it will be able to operate 24 hours a day, until 4 in the morning of the following day.
Also and no less importantly I have new colleagues available, PM me for more info.
https://www.eluniversal.com.co/cartagena/es-oficial-estos-son-los-nuevos-horarios-para-la-rumba-en-cartagena-MF7667482Thanks OneFireBoy. Guys I have been reading lot of negative reports about so many incidents in Cartegana. My suggestion for newbies and veterans please use OneFireBoy. You will be very safe with him as he is local to the area and knows in and out of everything in the city. He also has beautiful non pro girls he can hook you up. Every time I go to cartegana I meet him and always safe even in the clubs and surrounding areas.
Any updates on VIP club Del Marino?
I was was there in October and had no problems.
Inside was 3 gringos and 25 employees.
We were prime candidates for a easy robbery.
Breeder1983
01-10-23, 16:53
Just back from 2 weeks in Cartagena, my first ever trip there or to Colombia at all for that matter. I read a lot of posts in this forum and picked up some useful info before I got there, so hopefully I can give something back by sharing my own experience.
First let's talk about the elephant in the room, the drugging / robbery that seems to be rampant here. Being aware of the risks I took certain precautions with regards to location of my valuables and consumption (or not) of food / drink in the presence of girls. I'm fortunate in the sense that I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to this hobby of ours. I don't really drink alcohol, never do drugs and I'm not really into clubbing. I'm also not really looking for any kind of girlfriend experience. I just get straight down to business and when the job is done I don't tend to hang around. Finally, I travel solo and stick to one girl at a time, and I wouldn't be into any kind of group activity. I think all of these factors make me a somewhat difficult target, although I'm fully aware that nothing is impossible and I decided that I would take a calculated risk. I'm glad to say that all went well and no horror stories to report.
OK now that's out the way let's talk about my experiences. I'm not one for writing lengthy field reports but lets just say I brought a different girl home with me almost every night, with the exception of one weeknight being a repeat order due to a lack of other good options. I mainly found them in Centro so I'll give a rundown below of the places I visited.
First stop for me was Delirium. I'd heard a lot about this place and I wanted to check it out for myself. It's definitely more of a hip hop vibe, which wouldn't bother me. But I didn't like this place simply because I wasn't into any of the girls in there (although it should be noted that I'm very particular about what I like). On the plus side, there was always a good number of girls in there. If you like that kind of vibe and the women it attracts, this would probably be a good place to try.
Next up Space. This place was slightly better for me. Music was more my type and there were one or two girls that I liked in there, although it seemed to have less girls than the other places I went to.
Finally La Dolce Vita. This was my favourite of the three I frequented. Great music, lots of girls and the layout of the place suits me as I like to stand more than sit and there are plenty of spots where you can stand without feeling awkward.
I also spent a good bit of time around the Clock Tower (excuse the pun). I actually prefer to do this than even go inside a club. It's way more efficient for someone like me, who just wants to pick a girl and whisk her away immediately. The only issue is that in general its the less hot ones who are prepared to stand in the street all night. On the plus side, there is more opportunity to haggle with them and they are more likely to agree to any additional services you may require.
The thing I liked most about Cartagena is that even the girls who mostly go to the bars will usually spend some time walking around the streets in Centro. So the whole area is like one giant brothel after 10 pm. If she looks like a hooker she almost certainly is a hooker so all you need to do is go and say Hi and take it from there. You wouldn't even have to set foot in a bar if you were so inclined.
I'm glad I didn't have to waste too much time on the online thing. I did create an account on Tinder and Colombian Cupid, and even searched a few times on Facebook, but nothing ever came of any of my efforts. I'm probably just not suited to that sort of approach despite being relatively tech savvy. But when it comes to women I like to see with my own eyes what's on offer before I even engage with them, I just find it saves time and effort. Maybe online works well for others but it's definitely not for me.
Overall I had an amazing trip. Cartagena just suits me to the ground (the sun and the sea) and I'll most likely be visiting again around the same time next year. It should be noted that I've visited a number of countries in Latin America and I speak fluent Spanish which helps a lot although I'm sure you could get by without it.
I want to finish by saying thanks to the people who have previously shared their experiences here, the info I got here helped a lot in my preparation for what was one of the best holidays I've had in many years.
PremiumBetter
01-10-23, 20:31
Just back from 2 weeks in Cartagena, my first ever trip there or to Colombia at all for that matter. I read a lot of posts in this forum and picked up some useful info before I got there, so hopefully I can give something back by sharing my own experience.
First let's talk about the elephant in the room, the drugging / robbery that seems to be rampant here. Being aware of the risks I took certain precautions with regards to location of my valuables and consumption (or not) of food / drink in the presence of girls. I'm fortunate in the sense that I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to this hobby of ours. I don't really drink alcohol, never do drugs and I'm not really into clubbing. I'm also not really looking for any kind of girlfriend experience. I just get straight down to business and when the job is done I don't tend to hang around. Finally, I travel solo and stick to one girl at a time, and I wouldn't be into any kind of group activity. I think all of these factors make me a somewhat difficult target, although I'm fully aware that nothing is impossible and I decided that I would take a calculated risk. I'm glad to say that all went well and no horror stories to report.
OK now that's out the way let's talk about my experiences. I'm not one for writing lengthy field reports but lets just say I brought a different girl home with me almost every night, with the exception of one weeknight being a repeat order due to a lack of other good options. I mainly found them in Centro so I'll give a rundown below of the places I visited..Hello man,
Nice report. Would you tell when did you stay? Which accommodation that allowed visitors?
British Bloke
01-11-23, 22:25
In February I'll be back in Cartagena for the first time since 2006, looking forward to seeing what's changed.
Reading these threads it seems a lot. A few of my old haunts still seem to be there but I've a feeling the vibe has been changed for the worse by all the new tourism.
Appreciate the intel on the latest scams people have taken the time to detail. Its the age old advice though. Stay sober, stay switched on and don't go to places off the beaten track.
Weird, I was living in Cartagena for 2-3 months and visited Androgeno plenty of times for an after party, never seen nothing shady like this going on, there is usually 100+ people in the place, this guy must of been resisting hard to paying the bill and maybe in a drugged state, I had issues like this in Mexican strip clubs, where they would overcharge your card without you even noticing and then ID just call the card company and reverse the whole charge, haha.
Stumbled upon some horror stories about Androgeno Latin club.
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Mr Enternational
01-12-23, 14:27
I'm fortunate in the sense that I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to this hobby of ours. I don't really drink alcohol, never do drugs and I'm not really into clubbing. I'm also not really looking for any kind of girlfriend experience. I just get straight down to business and when the job is done I don't tend to hang around. Finally, I travel solo and stick to one girl at a time, and I wouldn't be into any kind of group activity. I think all of these factors make me a somewhat difficult targetLooks like you have the game down. 99% of the cases where the guys got drugged and or robbed, they were trying to hang out or party with chicks instead of just fuck them. Way to stay focused.
Just back from 2 weeks in Cartagena, my first ever trip there or to Colombia at all for that matter. I read a lot of posts in this forum and picked up some useful info before I got there, so hopefully I can give something back by sharing my own experience.
First let's talk about the elephant in the room, the drugging / robbery that seems to be rampant here. Being aware of the risks I took certain precautions with regards to location of my valuables and consumption (or not) of food / drink in the presence of girls. I'm fortunate in the sense that I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to this hobby of ours. I don't really drink alcohol, never do drugs and I'm not really into clubbing. I'm also not really looking for any kind of girlfriend experience. I just get straight down to business and when the job is done I don't tend to hang around. Finally, I travel solo and stick to one girl at a time, and I wouldn't be into any kind of group activity. I think all of these factors make me a somewhat difficult target, although I'm fully aware that nothing is impossible and I decided that I would take a calculated risk. I'm glad to say that all went well and no horror stories to report..I appreciate the report and move the same way, with the exception of partying a bit. I do love to party. Having said, I'm heading out there for 8 days in late April for the first time. I speak intermediate Spanish. Can you advise on the prices you paid roughly? In terms of accommodation, I already found a suitable place having used this forum as a guide.
Thanks.
First time in the walled city. Intermediate Spanish. Been to Medellin and Bogota plenty.
Stayed in an rental in Boca Grande. Probably should have stayed in Gensemani if I could find a quiet place.
Piggy backing on Breeders report, I did a lot of the same. I talked to a number of chicas around the clock tower and most were pretty cold and didn't have much personality. I preferred to be in a bar or restaurant doing work.
Delirium and Dolce Vita were two of the same for me. Lots of beautiful women. Not big clubs at all. Not much smiling. Mostly on their phones and drinking cups of water. Tons and I mean tons of plastic booty and tetas. Not my thing.
Had the best night at Space club. Definitely more urban. Do not run up a tab there, always pay as you go. Took a chica home from there and we didn't even discuss money. $50. She came and saw me on my last night with me clearly telling her I wasnt looking to have company. Freebie.
Tinder was super hit and miss but after a lot of work I found a normal civilian and we headed off to the islands for a few days. Zero money given but of course I paid for pretty much everything. So there is still hope but I would say 15/20 chicas I talked to just vanished or stopped responding. They are looking for that quick $100-$200 sucker.
I never made it to the following but I am sure one of you fine gents will and report back.
El Paraiso Del Marino club. The touts in El Centro push this place hard. Taxis say its the better than the next one:
Chica Linda club. Confirmed through locals that its 150 COP to have a girl in here.
HOM Massage in centro is another local spot I heard about for extras.
Hotel El Dorado for massages.
Enjoy.
Taco.
Tom Dick 69
01-24-23, 20:24
Beach: I don't remember the exact price quoted but it was 200+/ HR. As recommended in ISG, found Tony. You can ask for Tony, or there is a chair that says 'Tony' on the back. Tony is slightly better than other pimps around.
Clock tower: The street walker marker starts after tourist leaves, like 8 pm or later. 50-100 girls. But all were quoting high prices, like 500/ HR. The cops starts to move away the market like around midnight, and in 1 HR everyone leaves the place. Both girls, and tourists. Even towards the end, the girls were still quoting high price. I got one girl's number and negotiated for 100/ HR for next day daytime through WhatsApp. I guess that's the best strategy to get value for session, if you are looking at 100/ HR. I left Cartagena soon, since Barranquilla is just 2 hrs away and offers good value at 100/ HR.
I decided to pull the trigger and book a trip for middle of April. Tickets from south Florida have not dropped below 500 $ direct flight. Gone are the 250-350 days 😭128557;. Luckily the apartment stays the same price.
Already let my regular know the dates so she can arrange to be there from Medellin herself.
Hope the peso doesn't go down any further. That closer to 5 k was looking nice. I am looking forward to it! Almost a full year since I was there.
PerkinWarbeck
01-28-23, 18:29
Living here for a few months and the price increases are overblown. You are only seeing those in Centro in the clubs or in Plaza de LOS Coches. I found an average Colombiana with pretty long hair. Two shots. Bareback. Deep kissing. 100 k + 20 for the taxi.
Also, bring a burner phone and get a Colombian sim. It's a cheat code having a Colombian number. The prices get a lot more reasonable everywhere.
Mr Enternational
01-28-23, 19:28
Living here for a few months and the price increases are overblown. You are only seeing those in Centro in the clubs or in Plaza de LOS Coches. I found an average Colombiana with pretty long hair. Two shots. Bareback. Deep kissing. 100 k + 20 for the taxi.You found her where?
Elvis 2008
01-29-23, 02:46
Living here for a few months and the price increases are overblown. You are only seeing those in Centro in the clubs or in Plaza de LOS Coches. I found an average Colombiana with pretty long hair. Two shots. Bareback. Deep kissing. 100 k + 20 for the taxi.
Also, bring a burner phone and get a Colombian sim. It's a cheat code having a Colombian number. The prices get a lot more reasonable everywhere.So you are seeing them spread out too? I am not sure if the Christmas crowds caused it but last time I was in CTG there were about a half dozen WGs near the Nao Mall on Carrera 2 in Bocagrande. I do not know prices because I do not do WGs, but I would think this spot may get more popular as it is closer to the tourist spots. No one was hassling the women either.
Honestly, having the WGs at the clock tower has to be an eye sore for the city. The clock tower area was an amazing sight at Christmas, and families and children were out in force.
PerkinWarbeck
01-29-23, 13:01
You found her where?I found her and two other muchachas just like here on Mileroticos and Skokka.
PerkinWarbeck
01-29-23, 20:03
So you are seeing them spread out too? I am not sure if the Christmas crowds caused it but last time I was in CTG there were about a half dozen WGs near the Nao Mall on Carrera 2 in Bocagrande. I do not know prices because I do not do WGs, but I would think this spot may get more popular as it is closer to the tourist spots. No one was hassling the women either.
Honestly, having the WGs at the clock tower has to be an eye sore for the city. The clock tower area was an amazing sight at Christmas, and families and children were out in force.Those girls aren't really new. At night, Bocagrande has always had a working girl scene. It's just more spread out. Even better, a growing number of girls are renting rooms down there to make it even more accessible. In Laguito, Hollywood Beach Suites and a few others must have opened their doors to the trade because you'll see ladies advertising in calls there. And it makes a lot of sense. Tourists do not want to go to Pie de la Popa or Campestre where they stick out. It's a lot more safe and convenient. Very smart by the ladies.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CoDexoGA1qJ/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY%3D
2 of my chicas sent me this today because they know I'm coming next week for carnival. All I have to say is, if you are going there for the celebrations, be careful with who you are meeting. It doesn't matter if its website, dating app or off the street, be careful.
Woke up to another one sent from one of my chicas.
https://www.tiktok.com/@lordwilliamson/video/7194518609027288363?_r=1&_t=8ZUUBumwxQ6
If you're going to walk around at night don't do it solo and don't dress like a tourist.
Captain Solo
01-31-23, 19:29
The guy's name is Jonathan Diaz from Baton Rouge. This is a very serious crime, scary as shit!
A Vennie hooker from the Clock Tower stole my phone in the hotel, lost all my contacts, was in deep shit for a couple days. Lucky I had all hotels and flight bookings printed out on paper, also saved in my email, so I could continue my trip to other cities in Colombia and returned to the US.
A wingman did far worse taking a club girl back to his apartment. He got drugged, woke up the next morning the girl was gone, his wallet, money, phone, passport all stolen. The girl could have overdosed and killed him too. Lucky he had a wingman who bailed him out, but they had to go to US Embassy in Bogota and waited a couple days for emergency passport replacement. If you travel solo, you would be really fucked, stuck in a foreign country without money, phone, passport. Having hotels record the girls' IDs would be a layer of protection. Or take pics of them and their IDs and immediately upload them into cloud, just in case they steal your phone too hehe.
Looks like Colombia is rife with all kinds of criminals, ready to prey on sex tourists. Kidnap. Torture, extortion are serious terrorists' crimes. Policias won't do shit to investigate and prosecute crimes against mongers, knowing they will likely not coming back.
Mr Enternational
01-31-23, 22:13
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CoDexoGA1qJ/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY%3D
2 of my chicas sent me this today because they know I'm coming next week for carnival. All I have to say is, if you are going there for the celebrations, be careful with who you are meeting. It doesn't matter if its website, dating app or off the street, be careful.I can't see that but I suppose it is the same thing that my buddies put in our chat today about an American millionaire getting kidnapped in Cartagena by some girl he knew and her friends. They rode him around and beat him and got passwords out of him, transferring money from PayPal and using his credit cards and shit. In all they got him for $10,000.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=tdAUrSQR0zw
I can't see that but I suppose it is the same thing that my buddies put in our chat today about an American millionaire getting kidnapped in Cartagena by some girl he knew and her friends. They rode him around and beat him and got passwords out of him, transferring money from PayPal and using his credit cards and shit. In all they got him for $10,000.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=tdAUrSQR0zwMost notably he states how after speaking with the police, this isn't the first time it's happened / gringo being kidnapped and robbed. I wonder how many stories of this crazy shit guys really aren't sharing on these boards or on YouTube, Facebook, etc. Hats off to this gentleman for sharing his story.
At Captain Solo. Happy you're okay, brother. We don't know each other but thank you for your story. A few friends of mine just cancelled their flights to Colombia. I'm still scheduled to go in a few months but if this shit keeps up I'll probably follow suit.
TheBarbarian
02-01-23, 22:23
I've been in city and country for five days with four more to go. The reported robberies and beatings are all unfortunate. That being said, why people don't move the same as if they were in the inner cities of Chicago, New York or LOS Angeles is beyond me. Further, if you wouldn't enter these neighborhoods stateside or in your country, why do so abroad.
My contributions today:
Luxury Spa and HOM Spa. Both places offers extras. Expect to pay 150 k for a 60 min massage and requested 100 k to finish. Negotiate of course.
The three clubs (Dolce, Space and Delirium) are all come as you are with girls waiting to be chose. With that, it seems like many of them have set their asking price to $100-150 USD.
Hollywood Beach aka Playa Hollywood. Most girls are working there (it seems) literally just exchange WhatsApp.
* Anyone willing to give pointers, know of any good spots to check out, I'm all ears*.
Thanks for everyone's contributions.
I still feel he slipped. Take taxi only. Or now even bus. Keep everything in your control. Flashy hotel. Flashy pics. Don't show off.
Meet out some where busy already. Or else have her straight come over if that's all you're after. Do your deed. Done.
How do you guys feel about Uber? They can't plan that??
RamDavidson84
02-01-23, 23:46
The guy's name is Jonathan Diaz from Baton Rouge. This is a very serious crime, scary as shit!
A Vennie hooker from the Clock Tower stole my phone in the hotel, lost all my contacts, was in deep shit for a couple days. Lucky I had all hotels and flight bookings printed out on paper, also saved in my email, so I could continue my trip to other cities in Colombia and returned to the US.
A wingman did far worse taking a club girl back to his apartment. He got drugged, woke up the next morning the girl was gone, his wallet, money, phone, passport all stolen. The girl could have overdosed and killed him too. Lucky he had a wingman who bailed him out, but they had to go to US Embassy in Bogota and waited a couple days for emergency passport replacement. If you travel solo, you would be really fucked, stuck in a foreign country without money, phone, passport. Having hotels record the girls' IDs would be a layer of protection. Or take pics of them and their IDs and immediately upload them into cloud, just in case they steal your phone too hehe.
Looks like Colombia is rife with all kinds of criminals, ready to prey on sex tourists. Kidnap. Torture, extortion are serious terrorists' crimes. Policias won't do shit to investigate and prosecute crimes against mongers, knowing they will likely not coming back.There's no reason to hit up Cartagena when many other options are available and they are far less dangerous. Especially if you are solo.
Most notably he states how after speaking with the police, this isn't the first time it's happened / gringo being kidnapped and robbed. I wonder how many stories of this crazy shit guys really aren't sharing on these boards or on YouTube, Facebook, etc. Hats off to this gentleman for sharing his story.
At Captain Solo. Happy you're okay, brother. We don't know each other but thank you for your story. A few friends of mine just cancelled their flights to Colombia. I'm still scheduled to go in a few months but if this shit keeps up I'll probably follow suit.The word I got last year was that the policía aren't putting effort into solving any case involving guys who get robbed by chicas they don't know. I suspect they publicized this to discourage guys from coming.
I just returned from 14 days solo in Cartagena and had no trouble. But first, let me say that I did not do any mongering on my trip. I'm not drawn to the Cartagena ladies. If I wanted that, I would have gone to Bogota where the girls are more my style, and neighborhoods like Santa Fe or Candelaria are more accessible and generally safe. I stayed in the Historic Center, and in Bocagrande, and took a side trip to Baru. I met up with a nice lady from Colombian Cupid the last few days and went around with her. I went out walking or to the beach during the afternoons, and strolled around in the evenings, and played the tourist. And ate the crummy local food in average restaurants. And rode around in yellow taxis. I know this site is about mongering, but I just wanted to say that for two weeks, I saw no signs of criminals or crimes, and nobody bothered me (except some pushy venders at the beach). Judging from the posts, I cannot recommend CTG for pursuit of the hobby, and recommend to all to play it safe.
Captain Solo
02-02-23, 18:42
Loblaws,
I was very lucky, just had to buy a new phone with a Colombian SIM card and continued my trip. I could cost many days delays and lots of money if I lost the passport and wallet. How can I explain losing everything in Colombia to family and friends? I feel the bros should report all crimes, abuses, offenses wherever they go to help others avoid them.
In my case the Vennie I picked up had a plan to steal from the start. Right after we got in the taxi heading back to Boca Grande, she said she was hungry and needed food. It was past 2 AM, nothing was open on the way back. In the room I took my clothes off; she sat on the bed, refused to take clothes off, again said she wanted something to eat. She was trying all along to distract me from guarding my valuables. With just a towel around my waist, left wallet and phone in my pants, I walked down to wingman's room to get her a beer. She followed me out to the hall way. I thought she may try to steal my wallet, but did not think she could move that fast. While I waited for my wingman to get me the beer, I occasionally looked back to my room; she was out in the hallway. I walked back with the beer. She was sitting on the bed inside the room, looking nervous, but I still did not believe she could move so fast. Stupid me, because a pretty girl in NYC was able to cross the room, stole my wallet and returned to her spot like nothing happened, all within 30 seconds while I was in the bathroom. These thieves and pick pockets are extremely fast with their art. Don't underestimate them.
She sat on the bed drinking the beer, wanted money first. I refused. She got mad. I asked her to leave. She threatened me with something like "muy malo" as she exited the room. I thought about checking her hand bag, but being a gentleman I did not want to insult her. Couple minutes later I found out the phone was gone, but lucky she did not steal the wallet and passport, which could be a huge problem.
The hotel manager said there are lots of theft problems with hookers. They would steal anything they can get their hands on, including his computer accessories and table fan. The thieves are very fast. Don't take any chance with them.
I could not find any club girls in all 3 major Col cities to suit my taste. They were all big, chunky, heavy, homely. The few skinny club girls turned out to be transsexuals with deep, horrible broken voices.
Tijuana has hundreds hot girls every night in HK, many model quality. , also lots of hot girls in escort sites, Seeking and Tinder. My wingmen and I usually do 3 or 4 girls each night. Tijuana's bar zone is under protection by the Sinaloa cartel, so nobody dares to pull crimes in their territory. I have been going to Tijuana just every weekend for 22 years. Have never been robbed or lost anything in all those years.
TravelingTime
02-02-23, 20:26
I've been reading these forums over the years. Mostly just fantasizing, and *finally* that's going to turn to reality. I hope.
Up until a few days ago, I had things narrowed down to a few locations in the western hemisphere, and finally decided on Cartegena. But with all the posts over the last few days, I'm wondering if I'm being dumb. I'm planning on going last week in April. I'll be going solo with as much Spanish as I can learn in between now and then. The idea would be to setup something via SA, and failing that, something from the street.
Almost 60 year old guy from the US in Cartegena. Are there additional things I can do to mitigate this risk, or am I just an easily identified target from 1000 yards away?
Mr Enternational
02-02-23, 21:26
In the room I took my clothes off; she sat on the bed, refused to take clothes off, again said she wanted something to eat. She was trying all along to distract me from guarding my valuables. With just a towel around my waist, left wallet and phone in my pants, Jesus Christ. This has to be mongering 102. Never take your clothes off until the girl takes her clothes off. Does not even need to be mentioned leaving your valuables where someone can get them. There are really some professional rookies on this board. Experience is the best teacher, but please go back and watch The Mack. There is a scene where the trick is in the bathtub and the girl is not in the bathtub and fully clothed. She made off with his shit. He ran into rhe street naked talking about how his wife was going to kill him because his entire pay check just walked away.
Loblaws,
I was very lucky, just had to buy a new phone with a Colombian SIM card and continued my trip. I could cost many days delays and lots of money if I lost the passport and wallet. How can I explain losing everything in Colombia to family and friends? I feel the bros should report all crimes, abuses, offenses wherever they go to help others avoid them.
In my case the Vennie I picked up had a plan to steal from the start. Right after we got in the taxi heading back to Boca Grande, she said she was hungry and needed food. It was past 2 AM, nothing was open on the way back. In the room I took my clothes off; she sat on the bed, refused to take clothes off, again said she wanted something to eat. She was trying all along to distract me from guarding my valuables. With just a towel around my waist, left wallet and phone in my pants, I walked down to wingman's room to get her a beer. She followed me out to the hall way. I thought she may try to steal my wallet, but did not think she could move that fast. While I waited for my wingman to get me the beer, I occasionally looked back to my room; she was out in the hallway. I walked back with the beer. She was sitting on the bed inside the room, looking nervous, but I still did not believe she could move so fast. Stupid me, because a pretty girl in NYC was able to cross the room, stole my wallet and returned to her spot like nothing happened, all within 30 seconds while I was in the bathroom. These thieves and pick pockets are extremely fast with their art. Don't underestimate them..Sorry to hear that bro. Been reading lot of report about stealing, robbing and other things. Be careful folks. I have mentioned before use OneFireboy. He is local in Cartagena and can guide you through the city and with girls. He can go with you to the clubs and help you translate also. It's just sad to hear these kind of stories.
Recently spent about 5 days in Cartagena with a few other Bilingual first timer buddies that are also born / raised in the North East USA. I was able to gather lots of info from lurking on this forum so I hope some of my info can help others. Based on many informative posts here and prior research on Cartagena we decided on getting two places to rest our heads and enjoy the local talent. A very nice Airbnb in one of the nicer buildings in Laguito (lake and beach area) with great beach views (10 minute walk to Hollywood Beach area known for daytime talent) and also a 2nd spot mostly for smashing (Hotel Viajero Centro) within the walled city right in the middle of all the night time party action. Most of the nicer buildings with security in Laguito or Boca Grande (I was told by locals) will allow guests during the day but you will likely have problems stumbling in with some talent late night / early morning. I was also told by by Venezuelan talent that only Colombian Cedula ID guests are allowed in many of the nicer buildings in Laguito / Boca Grande. One Venezuelan (I'd rate an 8-9 NYC standards) who's services I enjoyed (talked her down to $120 USD for 1. 5 Hrs) told me she would have to pay security $100 USD to see one of her big baller regulars in one of the 5 star hotels.
The beauty of the two location strategy is that you can keep all your valuables in your main spot while never exposing much in your smash spot for late night action. I always made sure to tell talent that I was staying with a few friends at another much nicer location and they respected my not being naive. If you care about getting restful sleep and great beach views then Laguito of Bocagrande is the way to go. 15-20 Minute Cab rides to the Clock Tower or Walled city are only 3-4 USD from Laguito / Bocagrande. El Viajero Centro hotel was certainly guest friendly and down the block from all the pick up clubs. Dolce Vita, Space, Delirium and the best 100% free pickup spot I will bring up later. Viajero centro was maybe a 10 minute walk to the Clock Tower. There were a few gems by the clock Tower area but I was usually not too impressed. My buddy picked up a few gems at the clock tower for $300 K Pesos per Hour.
Prices and service: As someone (mid-late 30's) that can speak totally fluent Spanish with an obvious Gringo accent that isn't horrible looking / smelly / awkward prices ranged from 300-450 K Pesos per hour. All the 8-9's in their early 20's wouldn't go lower than 400 K Pesos / HR. Some of the 7-8's in their early 30's could be had for about $300 K Pesos per hour. My strategy is to always offer them a beer (inside or on street) and talk them up for a good 5-10 minutes to make them feel comfortable before bringing up prices. If they seem only transactional or a hardened pro and not easy going at all then I say bye. I always asked what their price is in pesos not dollars. All service provided is covered with oral and all the normal positions offered. Some kissing and spanking was usually ok from me but I can tell they avoid ruining their hair or makeup.
Best free pickup Spot: The Pan. Debono bakery / cafe that every working girl seems to stop by every single night on the corner near Space and Delirium. IMO much more attractive girls are found there VS the clock tower. Once they hear you speak English you will certainly get their attention.
I enjoy chatting up the girls, making them laugh and getting the scoop when I can. Once comfortable a few of them stayed well over the time I paid for. When I asked what they hated about some foreign / USA mongers: those who were loud / aggressive / disrespectful / street types or trying to pick them up their crew of 5 guys. Most hated when guys demanded raw services and they had to say no. Many of the girls I met (even early 20's) were single Moms with multiple kids doing this for a short time and soon going back to their cities like Barranquilla, Armenia etc. I usually got more than my moneys worth from most when making them feel comfortable.
Recently spent about 5 days in Cartagena with a few other Bilingual first timer buddies that are also born / raised in the North East USA. .......................
Best free pickup Spot: The Pan. Debono bakery / cafe that every working girl seems to stop by every single night on the corner near Space and Delirium. IMO much more attractive girls are found there VS the clock tower. Once they hear you speak English you will certainly get their attention. If this is where I think you're talking about its on the corner of Calle de San Agustin Chiquita and Calle Del Porvenir AKA the corner that always smells like shit or the top left corner of the pussy triangle if your walking from the clocktower.
Yes, can confirm they all stop there to eat and hang out there. That street Calle de San Agustin Chiquita also get allot of foot traffic when the girls are walking from Space to Delurium. But you have to deal with that lady whose always there begging infront of the shop.
Captain Solo
02-04-23, 20:00
Running after the puta down the street naked moaning how his paycheck has been stolen has to be a classic funny story hehe. Man, I am glad I got off pretty lightly in Cartagena.
I was complacent after 2 decades going weekly to Tijuana, other cities in Mexico, Asia, Europe and Latin America, never lost anything. Did avoid losing the wallet and passport in a filthy Viet *****house on 49th street in Phnompenh thanks to warnings by the bros in that thread. Went to the French villa with a classy brothel full of Viet girls, picked up a few for all nighters, no problemos.
When she said she was hungry, I felt compassion for the people's hardship in Venezuela, so I was cutting her some slack, treating her with dignity not like a potential thief. But my compassion was misplaced, and I was not as fast and alert as I thought I was after drinking all night in the club. Damn, this crooked puta was fast and slick.
Next night I picked up a half Vennie near the clock tower. She was a beautiful spinner, nice, clean, pleasant, would do anything all night in bed. She's very cute and sexy. I would do her again, may be flying her down to MDE for a couple days. I gave her tel to a couple bros to hook. They were all happy with her.
Outside club Espace there were 2 dozen girls, a few hot spinners. Inside the girls were mostly thick and homely. They all wanted $100 for ST. The only tall, skinny girl was standing away by herself, no friends, not talking with anyone, with half her body covered in tats. When she opened "her" mouth talking to me, she was croaking with a very deep and broken voice like a toad hehe.
Transsexuals also walk the beach in Boca Grande at night, talking loudly, making a lot of noise.
Risks of becoming victims of violent crimes are so high in Colombia, unlike all other countries I have been to.
Ill be landing early next week for Carnival, 11 nights in Cartegena, 4 nights in Barranquilla, then I have to decide if ill do a week in Medellin or Santa Martha. I wanted to get there a week before due to those plate tickets were just too damn high during the week of carnival. Yesterday I told my main Dolce girl I'm coming and she immediately told me she won't be able to come with me to carnival because some high paying gringo already send her $1000 to be with him, the kicker is his ass don't even get there until the 16th, then when he get there, hes going to give her more money. Of course I call bullshit but then she sends me a screenshot of the PayPal transaction (well that shut me up), His pockets, his choice. So she tells me since she cannot go to carnival with me she will stay with me the week prior and if I want she can help me get a girl to go with me. Not a bad deal so I put that on pause. Then I reached out to my Delirium chica she said similar, high paying gringo coming so she can't go with me to carnival (WTF). Reached out to my Barranquilla chica, she said the same thing, high paying gringo coming but she don't mind introducing me to the Gringo and we can all party together, I immediately tell her its not a good idea to introduce your clients to me because although I'm cool an understand its business the client might not understand and get in his feelings and you will loose money. I asked her to get me some Palco tickets and we can link up then go separate ways, she agreed. Those were my top 3 girls who I could trust to stay with me for 3 nights and charge me little to nothing if anything at all.
Decided to reach out to one of the new girls from my last trip my Dolce girl helped me get in Plaza Caribe since it was only 150 Mil, only 1 actually received the message and responded and eager to go. I asked for her ID so I can register it at the hotel and she sends me some shit called Contrasena, now, the only IDs I've seen are the Cedula, Permiso Especial de Permanecina (PEP), Passport, and the RUMV. I've never seen or heard of a Contrasena. Sent it to my Dolce girl and asked if its legit, she says yea, it just means the girl is young. Wheels start turning in my head because I've met 18 year olds with Cedulas, I looked at the ID again checked date of birth and it made sense, she just got the ID last month. Dolce chica tells me its fine and she will be able to check in with me, so looks like I'm all set for Carnival.
Long story short, if your going for carnival and got a favourite girl you want to stay with. You might want to snatch her up if someone didn't already. Also be careful out there because all my chicas are warning me of the crime uptick in Cartegena and says it gets even more crazy around carnival due to the increase of gringos. They said leave everything valuable in the hotel as the pickpocketing is insane during carnival.
Running after the puta down the street naked moaning how his paycheck has been stolen has to be a classic funny story hehe. .....Not funny to the guy running after his paycheck or his family.
If this is where I think you're talking about its on the corner of Calle de San Agustin Chiquita and Calle Del Porvenir AKA the corner that always smells like shit or the top left corner of the pussy triangle if your walking from the clocktower.
.Just wanted to thank you Nypher for sharing a lot of great info on here that I learned from while lurking before my trip.
It's the bakery down the block from Space and Dolce on the corner. During the day time its packed with locals / tourists and and at night (10 Pm and later) mostly all the ladies getting a quick bite. I grew up eating Colombian bakery food in the states and can verify its one of the best Pan de Bono's (cheese bread) I've tried inside or out of Colombia. Explains why all the talent go there as its amazing and cheap. Amazing fresh juices as well. I didn't notice any stench and doubt they would let it get smelly for long as its across the street from a church and also a major touristy intersection during the day. That lady begging is certainly there. There are also lots of dudes there offering hotels or free entry into the clubs etc at night. I'd ignore everyone except talent LOL. Once you find some talent take them around the block and chat over a cheap beer from a store.
Safety has been a major topic as of late and I truly feel for my American bro's. If you are a solo mongering traveler that doesn't really speak spanish / can't hold a real conversation then I 100% recommend using some vetted guide you can probably find on here. We had no problems as Gringo Bilinguals while there but I can tell there is at least a little resentment / jealousy of Gringos by some of the local dudes offering clubs / motels on the street at night. Just be nice and respectful when you say no no no to all the offers and move on. I'd recommend statying away from all substances offered too. Some of them probably take joy in hearing about a "dumb gringo" being robbed and some probably enjoy doing it. It likley irks them watching the hottest women giving all the gringos attention they will never get making only $300-$400 USD a month.
For the love of God leave all jewelry and Apple products in the US. Buy some cheapo used fully unlocked Android phone in the US (maybe have a backup too) and inside the Centro / walled City you can get a Claro Sim with 9 GB of Data for a month for about $8-10 USD. They will pop it in and set it up for you. Set up Whatsapp with your new Cartagena number and download Indriver App for Cabs. Only use cabs from the App or called by Hotels.
Life is short, be safe everyone!
I really feel like what's going on is due to an over saturation of rookies in this hobby! I mean. I've been doing this most my adult life and I'm sure I'm still below the average age here. Starting in Costa Rica, sampled in Guatemala. Ecuador. Peru. Thailand. Amsterdam, Colombia. Maybe I've really done my research over the years and learned?
If you have a chick over, how do you leave anything out where she can get it. Fuck I even hide kitchen knives! Quick sweep through when I get to the apartment first. Have everything ready. Come back to apartment. Everything goes straight to safe except cell. I go to bathroom I take the cell with me. I have a drink, I finish it or take it with me.
Always deadbolt the door too.
Carry a copy of your passport. Tip the doormen and security. Make them your buddies. Don't get in a car with someone else. Take your taxi or Uber. Don't walk around with phone in hand. Don't wear flashy stuff. If using tinder or something don't put flashy pics. Know where you're going, look at where you're going and familiarize yourself first so you don't get lost down a dark street.
I feel like this should all be common sense.
RamDavidson84
02-06-23, 00:21
I really feel like what's going on is due to an over saturation of rookies in this hobby! I mean. I've been doing this most my adult life and I'm sure I'm still below the average age here. Starting in Costa Rica, sampled in Guatemala. Ecuador. Peru. Thailand. Amsterdam, Colombia. Maybe I've really done my research over the years and learned?
If you have a chick over, how do you leave anything out where she can get it. Fuck I even hide kitchen knives! Quick sweep through when I get to the apartment first. Have everything ready. Come back to apartment. Everything goes straight to safe except cell. I go to bathroom I take the cell with me. I have a drink, I finish it or take it with me.
Always deadbolt the door too.
Carry a copy of your passport. Tip the doormen and security. Make them your buddies. Don't get in a car with someone else. Take your taxi or Uber. Don't walk around with phone in hand. Don't wear flashy stuff. If using tinder or something don't put flashy pics. Know where you're going, look at where you're going and familiarize yourself first so you don't get lost down a dark street.
I feel like this should all be common sense.Don't forget. Don't select the location where crime is exploding and there are dozens of reports of druggings, muggings, robberies, and just a general sense of danger. When places get as bad as Cartagena, let that location die. Stop going there. The girls will starve and they will quickly find the destination where the money is at. Even if it is out of the country. I see so many Colombians and Vennies all over Mexico and even United States. Dudes should not tolerate that shit. I know I won't ever go back to Cartagena after the shit I dealt with over the summer. When the money goes dry and the girls need a new location, I suspect word will get out and their behavior will be more tolerable.
And absolutely don't leave shit out to get stolen or other rookie mistakes. Personally, I would rather shell out a few more dollars and enjoy my self without having to worry so much about the shady stuff, but if you got to play cheap and dangerous, at least be smart about it. Bottom line, Pick a safer destination even if it is a bit more expensive.
TravelingTime
02-06-23, 22:34
There's no reason to hit up Cartagena when many other options are available and they are far less dangerous. Especially if you are solo.What would you recommend for a solo traveler?
I've been going to Cartagena for 16 years now. More in the last 7 then previous. So since 2007 it has changed drastically, and so has this hobby.
These forums kind of existed before, but now we have instagram, twitter, tik tok and YouTube. You see videos from just seconds ago and they go everywhere. This like everything else has so much more exposure than ever before.
So what I'm getting to is there's a shitload of rookies. I personally know someone who's married two of these girls already and still doesn't get it! You can get drugged in Miami also picking up a girl from the bar at blue martini because she's going to walk away with your watch later too. That's everywhere. It's a game for sure. It is part of this. Unless you're in a place like maybe Thailand where it's sooooooo widely accepted; this will always have its risks.
I am not hearing about the average tourist having issues. Officials won't allow it. They just got a big private investment to increase the size of the current airport and next year will likely announce a new huge one. The port and cruises are busier than ever!
I am sure they turn a blind eye when it's someone in this community because they hope we go away.
So in conclusion, sure you can avoid it. Or you can enjoy Cartagena for the nice city it is. Be smart. Don't be out 2, 3 am partying. Take the party back to your place or.
Neighborhood instead. There's plenty of little restaurants allllll over that will serve beer to a group gladly. Shit stop and get a small bottle on the way for shots or easy mixed drink. Then you can just walk 100'ft to your hotel or apartment.
And like I stated before. Watch yourself. It's not difficult.
RamDavidson84
02-07-23, 04:52
What would you recommend for a solo traveler?Your asking for advice, so I am going to assume you are new to the game and have poor Spanish. If you are on a budget, Hit Medellin up, but stay away from the online stuff. No Tinder, No Seeking. It's just unnecessary for a weekend or even 2 week vacation. Hit the strip clubs up and get numbers and if you can budget it, just fuck them on site. Fase Dos and La Isla will give you all you need. If you don't want to spend the money, play the game and get numbers and negotiate a lower price later. Do not fuck with the street walkers. If you can afford a plane ticket, you can afford to avoid dirt cheap street walkers, although the diamonds in the rough are out there. The thing is, it's just an unnecessary risk. Hit Gustos up and get numbers, those girls will be less likely to pull shady shit, but its possible they could so plan accordingly.
If you have the cash and especially if you speak Spanish, the big three of Mexico are all better. CDMX, GDL, and Monterrey. Well maybe not CDMX unless you want to do seeking for 2 weeks ahead of time and line dates up.
If you want a beach vacation and have cash, I would argue Mazatlan and Puerto Vallarta are better due to safety, but your options for girls will be limited there.
If you want beach weather and Casino action and have a large budget, My favorite is Panama City. Ocean Casino Bar is safe and the girls were very attractive. Be prepared to drop 2-3 hundred a girl though. I heard there are some other good spots like Habano's, but I personally have not been there.
If you want beach, grittyness, and the urban vibe, Sosua is an experience you won't forget. Yes, I would pick Sosua over Cartagena, but I could see some guys choosing Cartagena because the girls on average are more attractive there. Real danger is not really present in Sosua in terms of druggings and scams and shit like that. You do need to chica proof your room if you bring a girl back though. I also have not been to the Sue post-covid, but from what I have gathered, the only difference is Classicos is closed and the girls are charging a bit more. Nothing like a cold Presidente with the napkin wrap.
I can't comment on Brazil, but check the Brazil forums because I hear many goods things about that country as well.
.....If you have the cash and especially if you speak Spanish, the big three of Mexico are all better. CDMX, GDL, and Monterrey......I would say safer but why better?
TravelingTime
02-07-23, 21:26
Your asking for advice, so I am going to assume you are new to the game and have poor Spanish. If you are on a budget, Hit Medellin up, but stay away from the online stuff. No Tinder, No Seeking. It's just unnecessary for a weekend or even 2 week vacation. Hit the strip clubs up and get numbers and if you can budget it, just fuck them on site. Fase Dos and La Isla will give you all you need. If you don't want to spend the money, play the game and get numbers and negotiate a lower price later. Do not fuck with the street walkers. If you can afford a plane ticket, you can afford to avoid dirt cheap street walkers, although the diamonds in the rough are out there. The thing is, it's just an unnecessary risk. Hit Gustos up and get numbers, those girls will be less likely to pull shady shit, but its possible they could so plan accordingly.
If you have the cash and especially if you speak Spanish, the big three of Mexico are all better. CDMX, GDL, and Monterrey. Well maybe not CDMX unless you want to do seeking for 2 weeks ahead of time and line dates up.
If you want a beach vacation and have cash, I would argue Mazatlan and Puerto Vallarta are better due to safety, but your options for girls will be limited there.
If you want beach weather and Casino action and have a large budget, My favorite is Panama City. Ocean Casino Bar is safe and the girls were very attractive. Be prepared to drop 2-3 hundred a girl though. I heard there are some other good spots like Habano's, but I personally have not been there.
If you want beach, grittyness, and the urban vibe, Sosua is an experience you won't forget. Yes, I would pick Sosua over Cartagena, but I could see some guys choosing Cartagena because the girls on average are more attractive there. Real danger is not really present in Sosua in terms of druggings and scams and shit like that. You do need to chica proof your room if you bring a girl back though. I also have not been to the Sue post-covid, but from what I have gathered, the only difference is Classicos is closed and the girls are charging a bit more. Nothing like a cold Presidente with the napkin wrap.
I can't comment on Brazil, but check the Brazil forums because I hear many goods things about that country as well.Thanks for that info, and you are pretty on target about me. New to the game, spanish is poor but I'm very motivated to improve it. I'm not looking to save pennies on "the talent" - I would prefer better looking / more chilled out girls. Maybe I should split my time between Cartegena and Medellin (except the strip club scene isn't really me. Not much of a drinker or a late night kind of person).
Again. Thank you for the guidance. Much appreciated!
RamDavidson84
02-07-23, 22:22
I would say safer but why better?Safer=better.
Do you really want to worry about a girl drugging or robbing you the whole time you are with her? Do you want to be harassed for money every time you step out of a club? Yes Cartagena is cheaper and there is more access to women, but the hoops you have to jump through to play the game there is just rediculous. You can't even bring a girl back to 95% of the hotels in the city.
Hey guys,
Wanted to get some veteran insights on something that happened to me this morning. Basically I'm travelling to Cartagena soon and wanted to start chatting up some of the girls out there. So I went on Skokka and started chatting with a girl. Only a couple of short conversations via WhatsApp. This morning I received a message on my WhatsApp from her demanding money or she will post my pic with a header that I don't pay girls in Spanish. The person is threatening to send it all over social media unless I help her / them financially. I told them to go ahead as I have nothing to hide in my life. I didn't send any messages or pics or anything even remotely inappropriate nor have I even travelled to Cartagena yet. She used my WhatsApp photo to make the poster.
This isn't a huge deal for me. I'm 3000 miles away in my cozy apartment but it definitely has given me pause about the game out there. For the record, I only messaged this one girl and after the fact told myself how stupid it was but didn't think anything of it until this morning.
Any thoughts (aside from me being a total ******* for even doing this shit)?
Safer=better.
Do you really want to worry about a girl drugging or robbing you the whole time you are with her? Do you want to be harassed for money every time you step out of a club? Yes Cartagena is cheaper and there is more access to women, but the hoops you have to jump through to play the game there is just rediculous. You can't even bring a girl back to 95% of the hotels in the city.To add to your post.
When the Gingos limits themselves to the same damn 3 clubs (Space, Dolce, Delirium), the same damn beach (Playa Hollywood Kiosk #4) the same damn area in the Clocktower (Mirador, and El Portal), the same damn hotels in Boca Grande and El Laguito well then of course this will be the majority of their experience. There are many other places the gringo can go where they will not experience this.
I'm currently here, zero worries about drugging, have not heard a single "tengo hambre" or "dame plata por favor" "or "pamper or milk for baby". All my girls can come and go as they please Why? Because I'm sticking with girls I've known for years and we are going places where the youtubers aren't. I also have a AirBB with no security.
I've told people many times on forums, whatsapp groups, and in person that if they go to these places in Cartagena then this will be their experience and of course they don't listen, proceed to watch a few youtube videos, go there and try to emulate what they saw in the video, then come back and complain about the bad experience like they were not warned by multiple people.
Hey guys,
Wanted to get some veteran insights on something that happened to me this morning. Basically I'm travelling to Cartagena soon and wanted to start chatting up some of the girls out there. So I went on Skokka and started chatting with a girl. Only a couple of short conversations via WhatsApp. This morning I received a message on my WhatsApp from her demanding money or she will post my pic with a header that I don't pay girls in Spanish. The person is threatening to send it all over social media unless I help her / them financially. I told them to go ahead as I have nothing to hide in my life. I didn't send any messages or pics or anything even remotely inappropriate nor have I even travelled to Cartagena yet. She used my WhatsApp photo to make the poster.
This isn't a huge deal for me. I'm 3000 miles away in my cozy apartment but it definitely has given me pause about the game out there. For the record, I only messaged this one girl and after the fact told myself how stupid it was but didn't think anything of it until this morning.
Any thoughts (aside from me being a total ******* for even doing this shit)?Damn they got you before you even landed!
Did you do your due diligence by getting her social media accounts or video chatting them to make sure its actually that person you were talking to?
If you didn't talk about anything bad in the chat like P4P you can report the messages in the chat to WhatsApp and let them block the person. Of course, it may not do anything, but it will at least cause them a little inconvenience to get a new number.
They are really gearing up for Carnival! Lots of Pappaya incoming.
Glad to hear you're having a stress free enjoyable time there! I really think it's these guys that are rookies or just dumb. This shit happens everywhere. You don't hear about it too much because it involves a hobby not approved by most, so they hope it scares us away and puts an end to it.
Don't be stupid! I mean traveling solo anywhere you should watch your back. Europe. Asia. South America. It doesn't matter. And doing what we do just adds that much more risk.
I still fully intend on going in mid April. Staying at the same place I always do. Clean. Safe. Ocean front. Easy and accommodating.
It's not difficult to find a place that allows you to bring a guest back. You just have to know.
I feel this is a hobby you need to be introduced to properly. Or be someone who really researches. Watching these yahoos on YouTube they have zero clue.
Safer=better.
Do you really want to worry about a girl drugging or robbing you the whole time you are with her? Do you want to be harassed for money every time you step out of a club? Yes Cartagena is cheaper and there is more access to women, but the hoops you have to jump through to play the game there is just rediculous. You can't even bring a girl back to 95% of the hotels in the city.I have not been to Cartagena but have made several trips to Medellin which some say is more dangerous. My sexual exploits in Medellin have been much more thrilling that those in Tijuana.
Elvis 2008
02-09-23, 16:02
Hey guys,
Wanted to get some veteran insights on something that happened to me this morning. Basically I'm travelling to Cartagena soon and wanted to start chatting up some of the girls out there. So I went on Skokka and started chatting with a girl. Only a couple of short conversations via WhatsApp. This morning I received a message on my WhatsApp from her demanding money or she will post my pic with a header that I don't pay girls in Spanish. The person is threatening to send it all over social media unless I help her / them financially. I told them to go ahead as I have nothing to hide in my life. I didn't send any messages or pics or anything even remotely inappropriate nor have I even travelled to Cartagena yet. She used my WhatsApp photo to make the poster.
This isn't a huge deal for me. I'm 3000 miles away in my cozy apartment but it definitely has given me pause about the game out there. For the record, I only messaged this one girl and after the fact told myself how stupid it was but didn't think anything of it until this morning.
Any thoughts (aside from me being a total ******* for even doing this shit)?Ignore it. It is funny these third world fucktards think the typically American run social media companies are there to promote their blackmail schemes. If they do post anything negative on you, ask the social media company to take it down and flag their account. If these assholes actually do post, they have probably done it to other guys too.
If you play the game long enough, you will have the social media threat, the underage threat, or the "I am pregnant and need money to take care of it" line. Take the social media threat as a badge of honor for playing the game.
Ignore it. It is funny these third world fucktards think the typically American run social media companies are there to promote their blackmail schemes. If they do post anything negative on you, ask the social media company to take it down and flag their account. If these assholes actually do post, they have probably done it to other guys too.
If you play the game long enough, you will have the social media threat, the underage threat, or the "I am pregnant and need money to take care of it" line. Take the social media threat as a badge of honor for playing the game.LMAO! Thanks for the good words, Elvis. Will do if they post anything fucked up, hopefully they don't. As mentioned, I was super respectful and didn't talk price or services or anything like that. Honestly just "Hi my name is Loblaws, I'm coming down soon and would love to meet you, etc".
At Nypher. I honestly didn't think to do any of that but will insist going forward. Although I don't think I'll be using Skokka again and will probably just hit the ground and do the whole cold approach when I'm there. Some of those girls on Skokka are looking fucking beautiful, though.
Hey guys,
Wanted to get some veteran insights on something that happened to me this morning. Basically I'm travelling to Cartagena soon and wanted to start chatting up some of the girls out there. So I went on Skokka and started chatting with a girl. Only a couple of short conversations via WhatsApp. This morning I received a message on my WhatsApp from her demanding money or she will post my pic with a header that I don't pay girls in Spanish. The person is threatening to send it all over social media unless I help her / them financially. I told them to go ahead as I have nothing to hide in my life. I didn't send any messages or pics or anything even remotely inappropriate nor have I even travelled to Cartagena yet. She used my WhatsApp photo to make the poster.
This isn't a huge deal for me. I'm 3000 miles away in my cozy apartment but it definitely has given me pause about the game out there. For the record, I only messaged this one girl and after the fact told myself how stupid it was but didn't think anything of it until this morning.
Any thoughts (aside from me being a total ******* for even doing this shit)?
Ignore it. It is funny these third world fucktards think the typically American run social media companies are there to promote their blackmail schemes. If they do post anything negative on you, ask the social media company to take it down and flag their account. If these assholes actually do post, they have probably done it to other guys too.
If you play the game long enough, you will have the social media threat, the underage threat, or the "I am pregnant and need money to take care of it" line. Take the social media threat as a badge of honor for playing the game.I don't get along with Elvis and we argue all the time. But this time he is spot on. Just ignore her empty threats, don't even dignify it with a response. Where does she / he / it think they are going to post it? On FB? Well that would expose their account and you should report it as Elvis suggested. If you really are feeling feisty report the post and aftermath to Skkoka.
FlappyGilmore0
02-10-23, 02:55
Glad I'm not the only one who hides the knives. LOL I go as far as bringing decoy items and if they go for the bait then I just adjust accordingly.
You'd be surprised at the amount of people who just travel with no preplanned research.
I really feel like what's going on is due to an over saturation of rookies in this hobby! I mean. I've been doing this most my adult life and I'm sure I'm still below the average age here. Starting in Costa Rica, sampled in Guatemala. Ecuador. Peru. Thailand. Amsterdam, Colombia. Maybe I've really done my research over the years and learned?
If you have a chick over, how do you leave anything out where she can get it. Fuck I even hide kitchen knives! Quick sweep through when I get to the apartment first. Have everything ready. Come back to apartment. Everything goes straight to safe except cell. I go to bathroom I take the cell with me. I have a drink, I finish it or take it with me.
Always deadbolt the door too.
Carry a copy of your passport. Tip the doormen and security. Make them your buddies. Don't get in a car with someone else. Take your taxi or Uber. Don't walk around with phone in hand. Don't wear flashy stuff. If using tinder or something don't put flashy pics. Know where you're going, look at where you're going and familiarize yourself first so you don't get lost down a dark street.
I feel like this should all be common sense.
Hello Guys,
Hope everyone is having a good weekend. Do you guys have any thoughts on hiring a tour guide for my first visit in April? I saw a video of this dude called "Danger the hook up" with barberworld (channel on YouTube). Prior to all this crazy shot going down I wouldn't even think of it, but still wondering if it might be worth the cost.
Any thoughts?
Mr Enternational
02-14-23, 23:12
LMAO! Thanks for the good words, Elvis. Will do if they post anything fucked up, hopefully they don't.How would you even know unless they send it to you? I have said before that nobody has seen a rash of postings on their social media saying this guy did such and such. If these were not empty threats then postings as such would be in the millions and would make news stories all over. They do not know you from a can of paint. Folks are not just taking random pictures and saying this guy did this. What are the chances even that anyone you know will see some obscure post from a stranger from the other side of the planet? No need to scare that easily.
Mr Enternational
02-14-23, 23:26
You'd be surprised at the amount of people who just travel with no preplanned research.No. I would not because everytime I travel with a woman this is the exact scenario. All they do is show up. In August I told my girlfriend that we are going to Tahiti in February. Arrived in Tahiti and hopped in a rental car and I said where to? She said the beach. I said which one? She had not looked up a damned thing. Tired of this BS. After 6 years I think I am calling it quits.
Meanwhile, my dad had been to Thailand 3 times. Took him again at the end of November. Hit the ground and asked him where he wanted to go. He was like a deer in headlights as if he had never been to the place a day in his life.
Mr Enternational
02-14-23, 23:29
Do you guys have any thoughts on hiring a tour guide for my first visit in April? I saw a video of this dude called "Danger the hook up" with barberworld (channel on YouTube). Why not just go on tripadvisor and look up things to do or see and take a taxi to those places if you do not rent a car?
Hello Guys,
Hope everyone is having a good weekend. Do you guys have any thoughts on hiring a tour guide for my first visit in April? I saw a video of this dude called "Danger the hook up" with barberworld (channel on YouTube). Prior to all this crazy shot going down I wouldn't even think of it, but still wondering if it might be worth the cost.
Any thoughts?Cartagena is a small place. You can go everywhere in taxi. Do not need a tour guide. I have walked to many places day and night especially inside the walled city. Tour guide may or may not help you with the girls. There are girls everywhere. Just negotiate and have a good time. There are lots of tours available including to islands if you like. In Cartagena money talks. You are not likely to find GFE girls. There are couple of beaches where you can go and enjoy. Touts are everywhere if that is your thing who will get you girls for an exorbitant price. For the first trip just go and see. If you like the place you will know what to do next time.
AcesOnTheRiver
02-15-23, 18:47
Hello Guys,
Hope everyone is having a good weekend. Do you guys have any thoughts on hiring a tour guide for my first visit in April? I saw a video of this dude called "Danger the hook up" with barberworld (channel on YouTube). Prior to all this crazy shot going down I wouldn't even think of it, but still wondering if it might be worth the cost.
Any thoughts?Hey man, I was in the same boat as you before my first trip, hitting up all these girls on social media and crap, wondering about tour guides, etc. Honestly, I don't get the social media aspect when you're in Cartagena- you will see, get a feel, and be able to talk in person to HUNDREDS OF GIRLS wanting to hook up with you. Drop the social media garbage and stop getting caught up in virtual threats and virtual beggars. Regarding tours, the tourist part of the city is so small you can taxi everywhere in under 20 minutes- so don't even stress about that. Only two other things you need to know, 1. Do not walk or lurk around in the walled city by yourself aimlessly with any sort of jewelry or watches on, and 2. Get a airbnb, contact the host and make sure they allow visitors. You don't really need much else advice, enjoy the trip, enjoy the first time experience of finding things out on your own- it's half the fun and excitement- have a safe trip.
NeilGeorge
02-15-23, 20:53
Any one else see all the soda bottles with urine in them along the roadway? And alot of street corners smell like piss too. Cab drivers don't even want to stop and piss, so they pee in a soda bottle, screw the cap back on, and throw it out the window, along the curbs. Disgusting.
NeilGeorge
02-15-23, 20:57
The launches bring annoying venders from the island to Laguito every morning. One drop off zone is right near the Hilton Hotel. The other drop off zone is a couple blocks from the old Dolce Vida location, by the Fish restaurant. Just stand in those locations and you will get mobbed as they are trying to hit every tourist many times. Like flies and mosquitos. In your Face!
I stayed in Boca Grande this trip and there were very few Venders there.
Hey man, I was in the same boat as you before my first trip, hitting up all these girls on social media and crap, wondering about tour guides, etc. Honestly, I don't get the social media aspect when you're in Cartagena- you will see, get a feel, and be able to talk in person to HUNDREDS OF GIRLS wanting to hook up with you. Drop the social media garbage and stop getting caught up in virtual threats and virtual beggars. Regarding tours, the tourist part of the city is so small you can taxi everywhere in under 20 minutes- so don't even stress about that. Only two other things you need to know, 1. Do not walk or lurk around in the walled city by yourself aimlessly with any sort of jewelry or watches on, and 2. Get a airbnb, contact the host and make sure they allow visitors. You don't really need much else advice, enjoy the trip, enjoy the first time experience of finding things out on your own- it's half the fun and excitement- have a safe trip.Bro, this post is the weirdest thing. My buddy was telling me today this trip is literally all I've been talking about for the last month. I went ahead and cancelled my Colombian Cupid Account, as well, before logging on here and seeing this post tonight. I took a new job roughly 15 months ago and have been working my ass off ever since. Normally I travel at least once a year for a few weeks on a mongering trip. This time I'm seeing how really addictive they can become because I'm clearly obsessing a bit. Anyways, I do appreciate your post, bro. Thank you, man. I just need to relax and take it as it comes. I'm all set on accommodations. I have a guest friendly el laguito apartment locked down. I'm not one for jewellery but will be travelling solo. Any aimless walking will be in the day within the tourist district.
PerkinWarbeck
02-16-23, 14:00
Been here since December. Leaving this summer. Loving living here. Good food and quiet living. Hope y’all are staying safe!
Colombitalia Arepas are top notch cheap eats in Getsemani. The restaurant not the stand.
Hello Guys,
Hope everyone is having a good weekend. Do you guys have any thoughts on hiring a tour guide for my first visit in April? I saw a video of this dude called "Danger the hook up" with barberworld (channel on YouTube). Prior to all this crazy shot going down I wouldn't even think of it, but still wondering if it might be worth the cost.
Any thoughts?You can reach out to OneFireboy. Not a tour guide but can help you with if you don't speak Spanish, have good non pro college girls and also can assist you with other tours. Very helpful person. He does not promote or market to much but a very useful person in Cartagena. Some ISG guy I meet also contact him whenever they are in Cartagena And are very happy. He can be your friend in CTG and can take you to nice clubs where there are less gringos.
So after about a week and a half being locked in with Dolce chica just doing local spots, restaurants, movies (surprised the shit out of me it was English audio with Spanish subtitles) she left to meet her high paying gringo and decided to hit the beach just for fun. Why didn't anyone report most of the beach is closed along Boca Grande? Looks like they are doing a huge sewer installation with pipes. Took me 20 minutes to get there from Centro with all the roadside construction along Cara 1.
After carrera 10 construction stops but at that point I lost interest. And just did a beer and walked around until something catches my eye.
Been here since December. Leaving this summer. Loving living here. Good food and quiet living. Hope yall are staying safe!
Colombitalia Arepas are top notch cheap eats in Getsemani. The restaurant not the stand.I can agree. Don't do any of the stands! Last time I did that I was shitting for about 3 days until one of my chicas hit me with the Lomotil. It never felt so good to take a solid shit again.
I'm here for a month, came early for carnival, if your going I hope you got your tickets early managed to get 2 multi day passes for 400 K each but the are scalping them now for 700 K a piece.
Elvis 2008
02-17-23, 06:29
Why didn't anyone report most of the beach is closed along Boca Grande? Looks like they are doing a huge sewer installation with pipes. Took me 20 minutes to get there from Centro with all the roadside construction along Cara 1.
After carrera 10 construction stops but at that point I lost interest. And just did a beer and walked around until something catches my eye.I was not sure how long that was going on. I was on the scooter and noticed they had closed the road and were just down to one lane. I thought it might have just been for a day or so, but I guess not. Yeah, it is going to delay getting in and out of Bocagrande for sure. When you enter Bocagrande, you sure as hell do not want to come in or go out on the road next to the beach.
Been here since December. Leaving this summer. Loving living here. Good food and quiet living. Hope yall are staying safe!
Colombitalia Arepas are top notch cheap eats in Getsemani. The restaurant not the stand.I can agree. Don't do any of the stands! Last time I did that I was shitting for about 3 days until one of my chicas hit me with the Lomotil. It never felt so good to take a solid shit again.
I'm here for a month, came early for carnival, if your going I hope you got your tickets early managed to get 2 multi day passes for 400 K each but the are scalping them now for 700 K a piece.
Just a quick report.
Last night on the way to El Laguito the cops set up a check point why that police station where El Laguito and Boca Grande meets where the road changes to 1 way.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/No1C7hmy9MZEcCLp8?g_st=ic
Now, stupid ass me was walking around with $600 while constantly procrastinating on changing it out cause the rate was increasing and I was parting with one of my chicas and her friend till 2 am. I also had about 500 k in pesos.
We took a taxi from Getsemeni to El Laguito, 4 Cops pulled over the taxi and told all of us to get out the car. Patted me down, emptied my pockets and they saw the money, took both girls out the car and searched their bags. While I'm in the back of the taxi by the trunk being searched another cop searched the back of the taxi. Came to me and said "problema". Shows me a bag of white stuff and said coca. Now I don't do that shit and none of my girls do it as well. I already know where this shit is going, my girl starts arguing with the cop, they take my ID and both my chicas. Since they both Venezuelan they threatened to take them to Migration, but I know my girl here legally since she have a Cedula and the other have a Venezuelan ID.
I asked them where they found it cause it wasn't on any of us and they said in the back seat. I already know where it's going.
I pull one cop aside and start negotiating to make it go away. My girl over there arguing crazy loud with the other 3 cops. Then they arrest her and her friend and and said everyone is getting fined and going to jail. I pull my girl aside calm her down, pull the cop aside start negotiating again.
They said $100 per person. They after I paid they had the nerve to say they are letting us go because we are good people. SMH.
Don't be me, let my $300 extortion be your lesson.
Elvis 2008
02-17-23, 21:04
Looks like they are doing a huge sewer installation with pipes. Took me 20 minutes to get there from Centro with all the roadside construction along Cara 1.I know the roads but not their names, so I had to look them up. So you want to come into Bocagrande on Carerra 2 and leave on Carerra 5/4/3 (4 and 5 eventually merge into 3). Stay the hell away from Carerra 1.
Don't pay. Call the cops 165 https://www.policia.gov.co/denuncia-virtual/extorsion.
Or the army https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oL-4AXTo4u7Q_vR3bcnmf-OVJhgD6GZk/view.
Don't pay. Call the cops 165 https://www.policia.gov.co/denuncia-virtual/extorsion.
Or the army https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oL-4AXTo4u7Q_vR3bcnmf-OVJhgD6GZk/view.Good advice, while I can agree in that moment my thought process was: my bed was only 1 minute away, I'm with 2 hot Venezuelans about to have a threesome, it's our last night in Cartagena and all three of us are leaving in the morning for Barranquilla and I was not willing to spend any time in Colombian Jail.
I did take pictures of the cops without them noticing though, and hide them to require password.
You can reach out to OneFireboy. Not a tour guide but can help you with if you don't speak Spanish, have good non pro college girls and also can assist you with other tours. Very helpful person. He does not promote or market to much but a very useful person in Cartagena. Some ISG guy I meet also contact him whenever they are in Cartagena And are very happy. He can be your friend in CTG and can take you to nice clubs where there are less gringos.ElPapi, Can you PM me the contact no for OneFireBoy, I will be in Cartagena tomorrow morning.
Thanks.
MachoMike.
My Delirium chica finished up with her high paying Gringo and decided to come over. We decided to get lunch in Getsemani.
Little to no Taxis in El Laguito so she gets an inDriver. On the way to Getsemni I see a long line of Taxis starting from the Military base and going to the clock tower. Asked her what's up, she said the Taxis are on strike.
She points to a taxi and tells me its a Colombians mans first love. I respond with, yes we all love our jobs even when we hate it. She says no and points again and that's when I noticed a decal of man fucking a goat on a taxi, and that's when I got it. We had a good little laugh about it.
DontSayMuch
02-25-23, 21:38
Plerepleple,
Since you have the AirBnB already you should probably ask and if you get pushback then I would offer a bribe. As for the trans escort I'd take her to a short-time hotel. If you saw her in town and she looked like the pictures then great, but if you didn't really see her up close then I'd request a video chat. Whatever happens I hope you have a great time.
Plerepleple,
In regards to your AirBB, you need to first read the house rules you agreed to when you booked. If nothing is listed there in regards to visitors, then ask the host. If all else fails, just bring them and if the person on guard says something try working it out with them. Usually some beers, order them food or give them enough to get lunch / dinner.
In regards to the Trans, I don't know why the hell would someone put themselves in that position of going to a strangers house in another country who they just met but to each their own. I would suggest meeting them in an environment where you have control rather giving them the upper hand to surprise you with anything such as setting you up to be robbed when you leave their place.
Plerepleple
02-25-23, 22:32
Since you have the AirBnB already you should probably ask and if you get pushback then I would offer a bribe. As for the trans escort I'd take her to a short-time hotel. If you saw her in town and she looked like the pictures then great, but if you didn't really see her up close then I'd request a video chat. Whatever happens I hope you have a great time.Thank you for the advice. Would you know by any chance a short time hotel in town?
Quick report.
Last night I went out just to see what's what. Mainly stayed standing by Hotel las Carretas as all the girls walk by there sooner or later when they walk the triangle.
I got about 10 numbers and they all spoke in dollars didn't want to talk in pesos. Even the Venezuelans didn't want pesos. Eventually 4 of the girls sent me this exact picture of their prices and I just block and delete their number.
Sticking to what's left of my usuals as a few of them went through the jungle and made it to America. 2 are in New York, I see 1 in New Jersey, 2 are pregnant by gringos and some are stuck in Mexico.
After this trip ends I'm taking a break or heading back to Aisa.
Went to Boca Grande Mall and got some shots of the crazy construction going on over there so others can see just how big the construction area is and to stay clear.
Mr Enternational
02-26-23, 02:38
After this trip ends I'm taking a break or heading back to Aisa.Come on back. The water is fine! (Not my pic. From Flexx pool party.).
Thank you for the advice. Would you know by any chance a short time hotel in town?The Trans will know a place but if not, you can take them to Hotel El Viajero Centro. Its on the same street as the KFC.
FlappyGilmore0
02-26-23, 04:38
Well that sucks, the price is ridiculous. The principle alone would make me stay away from those girls. Can't blame them though. It's dumb gringos I know speaking to them in USD that got this started.
Quick report.
Last night I went out just to see what's what. Mainly stayed standing by Hotel las Carretas as all the girls walk by there sooner or later when they walk the triangle.
I got about 10 numbers and they all spoke in dollars didn't want to talk in pesos. Even the Venezuelans didn't want pesos. Eventually 4 of the girls sent me this exact picture of their prices and I just block and delete their number.
Sticking to what's left of my usuals as a few of them went through the jungle and made it to America. 2 are in New York, I see 1 in New Jersey, 2 are pregnant by gringos and some are stuck in Mexico.
After this trip ends I'm taking a break or heading back to Aisa.
Went to Boca Grande Mall and got some shots of the crazy construction going on over there so others can see just how big the construction area is and to stay clear.Is Hollywood Beach still open.
Come on back. The water is fine! (Not my pic. From Flexx pool party.).I usually avoid the heavily tattoed women, not my thing LOL. I also usually avoid Flexx, too much Delirium vibes. 808 is usually where I hunt, more space, no beer bellies rubbing up against me and if shit happens I don't have to trample anyone down those steps to get out LOL.
Its totally ridiculous here right now. I haven't stepped a single foot inside any of the three clubs so far and not planning to.
Is Hollywood Beach still open.Yes its still open but the problem is that now, everyone is pushed to that area. I went there for lunch last Sunday and saw a few new things. (not going back for the rest of the trip).
Everyone is concentrated to Kiosk 4 now. So while eating, the usual constant harassment from vendors, massage ladies and beggars is increased but the new annoyance is the damn little kids coming up to you, and tapping you asking for food and money, the same stupid shit they did outside Delirium.
Everyone is competing for the gringos and makes the experience more uncomfortable, the only ones I see liking all the extra attention are the brothers who feel like superstars constantly waving over chicas to get numbers.
PerkinWarbeck
02-26-23, 21:41
Those quoted prices are way too high. I was walking home from dinner last week, and a few muchachas stopped me to ply their wares. I was quoted 250 k per hour. No one said dollars.
And 250 is actually a premium. I got two regulars from Skokka for 150 k two shots and they make love to me. I love to say about Cartagena, "If you bend over, they will * you".
Those ladies know a tourist when they see one, and they are adjusting their prices to take advantage of your ignorance. That is by no means the market rate. They would starve trying to charge dollars for everyone.
Those quoted prices are way too high... And 250 is actually a premium.I quite agree. My usual price ceiling for the plaza del Reloj is 250 mil, but I start from 200 mil. Some agree on 200. But strange things happen. Just yesterday I met 2 Venezolanas on the street in the walled city. They were quite good. I would have taken one of them, but they said they charged 400 mil (minimum for each of them. And they were newcomers, came here just 8 days ago. They don't yet know prices? I said that I didn't have such money (actually I wasn't ready to go that high). Usually chicks bargain and we could agree on 250, but they didn't make any effort.
PerkinWarbeck
03-02-23, 13:58
I quite agree. My usual price ceiling for the plaza del Reloj is 250 mil, but I start from 200 mil. Some agree on 200. But strange things happen. Just yesterday I met 2 Venezolanas on the street in the walled city. They were quite good. I would have taken one of them, but they said they charged 400 mil (minimum for each of them. And they were newcomers, came here just 8 days ago. They don't yet know prices? I said that I didn't have such money (actually I wasn't ready to go that high). Usually chicks bargain and we could agree on 250, but they didn't make any effort.Saying they just arrived is a common lie that these ladies use to make them seem more fresh. The ladies don't typically start at Torre de Reloj since the pimps tend to control who goes where. They start at a casa where the guests and the girls are controlled. Then, with some experience, they move to Torre. They train these girls in a few English words and how to set prices.
They pretend they don't know prices in the hope that you would actually pay more. These girls are uneducated, but they are not stupid. They charged you 400 because you are obviously foreign. I don't play down there anymore because I look foreign too. I just speak costeo Spanish, so they know I'm here often enough. The only way to get around the gringo tax is to learn Spanish or get a Colombian friend to negotiate for you. Usually these girls, ignoring the best looking ones, charge 100 k in the barrios they are staying in for an incall to locals. Sometimes less.
The ladies don't typically start at Torre de Reloj since the pimps tend to control who goes where.Usually we talk quite a lot while going to the hotel and back. Sometimes I take the same girl a few times, sometimes I spend with the same girl a few days in a hotel. They never mention any pimps. They tell their stories and this topic of a pimp never pops up. Venezolanas are more concerned with the local police especially those who just arrived and don't have a passport (it costs about $250 in Venezuela) nor local cedula. Police would check them and take all money they could find.
I don't play down there anymore because I look foreign too. I just speak costeo Spanish, so they know I'm here often enough.I do look like a foreigner they don't make mistake with me although I speak Spanish close to fluent. Before engaging in something more serious we usually have a chat. I put forward my conditions what and how we'll do the stuff. However this time a few unexpected things have happened. So, I decided to create an account and file a report so that the others would know. When I leave Cartagena I will post my stories, don't want to expose my identity while I am still here. Locals may monitor this forum as well.
By the way, forgot to mention. Prices on beer in DondeFidel went up from 8 mil to 10 (waiters complain that there are no tips and everything is more expensive now) just 2 days ago. And the old man who is always sitting in a chair half sleeping next to the wall in that open area outside is Fidel himself, the owner of the bar.
PerkinWarbeck
03-02-23, 19:17
Usually we talk quite a lot while going to the hotel and back. Sometimes I take the same girl a few times, sometimes I spend with the same girl a few days in a hotel. They never mention any pimps. They tell their stories and this topic of a pimp never pops up. Venezolanas are more concerned with the local police especially those who just arrived and don't have a passport (it costs about $250 in Venezuela) nor local cedula. Police would check them and take all money they could find.
I do look like a foreigner they don't make mistake with me although I speak Spanish close to fluent. Before engaging in something more serious we usually have a chat. I put forward my conditions what and how we'll do the stuff. However this time a few unexpected things have happened. So, I decided to create an account and file a report so that the others would know. When I leave Cartagena I will post my stories, don't want to expose my identity while I am still here. Locals may monitor this forum as well.They don't mention pimps because you don't need to know about them. When they talk about where the live, they will usually mention roommates. Those roommates are other working girls. The pimp is the one who gets the room for them. If you ever go to the chicas outcalls in Torices or Bosque, they are sharing that place as a brothel. The pimp (male or other female prostitute) is taking a cut of their earnings.
They can hear your accent and tell you are a foreigner. If you are a foreigner in Cartagena, you must have money. This is the most expensive city in the country. Locals have a similar site to this in Spanish. I won't give names, but if you find a girl you like on Mileroticos and search her number on Google (without +57) you will find the place. They review girls there.
Quick report.
Last night I went out just to see what's what. Mainly stayed standing by Hotel las Carretas as all the girls walk by there sooner or later when they walk the triangle.
I got about 10 numbers and they all spoke in dollars didn't want to talk in pesos. Even the Venezuelans didn't want pesos. Eventually 4 of the girls sent me this exact picture of their prices and I just block and delete their number.
Sticking to what's left of my usuals as a few of them went through the jungle and made it to America. 2 are in New York, I see 1 in New Jersey, 2 are pregnant by gringos and some are stuck in Mexico.
After this trip ends I'm taking a break or heading back to Aisa.That's insane price bro. Not sure why CTG price hike so much. I go to Medellin more since the price is much lesser. I like the vibe of Cartagena but can't afford this price now. Will come back once the price are reasonable.
Since I didn't have much success with the first 2 chicas (I will probably tell the full story later), the third one was much better. Venezolana, quite pretty, never had children, so you can imagine that her chocha was quite tight. And very hot in bed, when I have come, she manages to come twice. She's new in town without proper documents and didn't even know where La plaza de la Trinidad was, so next day we had to meet at the Clock tower, the only place she knew.
We met every day for 5 days straight, sometimes twice per day and by now I unloaded more than 1,5 million pesos in her purse. Not counting paying for restaurants (including very good ones like San Nicolas) and taxi. I was seriously considering taking her for entire day on a trip to the islands (she charges $150 for the whole day) or something more serious.
At the end of our penultimate encounter she asked for 50 mil more in addition to the regular pay 250 mil. She said that she needed to meet her rent deadline pay. I knew that it was No-No thing and first didn't want to give her an advance but then I decided to go for some kind of an experiment. I was 50% sure that she is trying to screw me but 50% still believed in her common sense. Could she be so stupid? After all 50 mil ($12) is nothing for me and I could afford to spend it for an interesting scientific experiment.
Next day I gave her 200 mil saying that I paid 50 mil yesterday in advance. She made a surprised face and said that was a gift I gave her. I insisted that I wasn't stupid and remember very well her rent problem. She insisted on her version of events.
So, I gave her a choice: here is 50 mil and we won't see each other anymore, or she forgets the "gift" thing and we meet again. To my surprise she went for 50 mil. I think this is the closest what you can get as a definition of "cheap prostitute" (puta barata). Could she be that stupid? Yes she could and now I understand why they ended up priestesses of the most ancient profession and it's not always guilt of upbringing or place of birth or other unfavorable conditions.
Anyway, that was end of our relations, even though 50 mil is nothing for me; I don't tolerate dishonesty and monkey business.
Yes its still open but the problem is that now, everyone is pushed to that area. I went there for lunch last Sunday and saw a few new things. (not going back for the rest of the trip).
Everyone is concentrated to Kiosk 4 now. So while eating, the usual constant harassment from vendors, massage ladies and beggars is increased but the new annoyance is the damn little kids coming up to you, and tapping you asking for food and money, the same stupid shit they did outside Delirium.
Everyone is competing for the gringos and makes the experience more uncomfortable, the only ones I see liking all the extra attention are the brothers who feel like superstars constantly waving over chicas to get numbers.I've been down here the last 5 days. All the nuisance you talk about have always existed at Hollywood Beach. Nothing has changed.
Bring my trip to a close. The new hustle is additional tip on top of the included tip.
Now, every restaurant I go to, they always have either a service fee or propina on the receipt that's included automatically. Now on this trip multiple times at multiple places I've had the person whose in charge of the table tell me that the tip / service fee / propina that's on the receipt is not for them, but its for the restaurant and any cash tip I provide is for them. Like really? I'm paying with card, and my cash is for the chicas, taxi, and coconut guy when I see him.
Everyone got a hustle these days.
Since I didn't have much success with the first 2 chicas (I will probably tell the full story later), the third one was much better. Venezolana, quite pretty, never had children, so you can imagine that her chocha was quite tight. And very hot in bed, when I have come, she manages to come twice. She's new in town without proper documents and didn't even know where La plaza de la Trinidad was, so next day we had to meet at the Clock tower, the only place she knew.
We met every day for 5 days straight, sometimes twice per day and by now I unloaded more than 1,5 million pesos in her purse. Not counting paying for restaurants (including very good ones like San Nicolas) and taxi. I was seriously considering taking her for entire day on a trip to the islands (she charges $150 for the whole day) or something more serious.
At the end of our penultimate encounter she asked for 50 mil more in addition to the regular pay 250 mil. She said that she needed to meet her rent deadline pay. I knew that it was No-No thing and first didn't want to give her an advance but then I decided to go for some kind of an experiment. I was 50% sure that she is trying to screw me but 50% still believed in her common sense. Could she be so stupid? After all 50 mil ($12) is nothing for me and I could afford to spend it for an interesting scientific experiment.
Next day I gave her 200 mil saying that I paid 50 mil yesterday in advance. She made a surprised face and said that was a gift I gave her. I insisted that I wasn't stupid and remember very well her rent problem. She insisted on her version of events..A lot of these girls are so dumb when it comes to future prospects, they have no idea the difference between long term money and short term gain. Their mindset is "I'm young and a new gringo will always be at the clocktower to get more money from".
She literary gave up a chance to earn more money in the long run from a trusted client since you took her multiple times over 5 days over 50 mil. SMH.
Sooner or later she will message you and ask for money. Count on it.
PerkinWarbeck
03-03-23, 21:54
50 k pesos is nothing for us, but it is a huge amount for the vast majority of Colombians. Most Colombians do not earn 50 k for an honest day's work. If you give a girl the option, she will take the money. You aren't going to marry her and take her out of the life, so she'll be a prostitute for the rest of her life as long as someone buys it. This is a business and her job is to screw you, literally and figuratively.
Unless you block her, the muchacha will definitely reach out to you to see if you're down to see her again. You decide if you want to, but principles here mean absolutely nothing. Leave your American sensibilities at home. This is dog eat dog, and everyone is going to try to get over on you. The waitress, the taxi driver, everyone. It's the culture here.
Elvis 2008
03-03-23, 22:23
Bring my trip to a close. The new hustle is additional tip on top of the included tip.
Now, every restaurant I go to, they always have either a service fee or propina on the receipt that's included automatically. Now on this trip multiple times at multiple places I've had the person whose in charge of the table tell me that the tip / service fee / propina that's on the receipt is not for them, but its for the restaurant and any cash tip I provide is for them. Like really? I'm paying with card, and my cash is for the chicas, taxi, and coconut guy when I see him.
Everyone got a hustle these days.I always ask if the tip is included. Maybe it is because I am always out with my Colombian gal, but they have never pulled that stunt about "the tips do not go to me". I can see why it would work though and have many people fall for it.
I agree. Everyone has a hustle especially there.
Mr Enternational
03-04-23, 01:07
Venezolana, quite pretty, never had children, so you can imagine that her chocha was quite tight.Uhh no I can't. How tight someone's vagina is has as much to do with them having children as the tightness of someone's asshole has to do with how many shits they take per day.
At the end of our penultimate encounter she asked for 50 mil more in addition to the regular pay 250 mil. She said that she needed to meet her rent deadline pay. I knew that it was No-No thing and first didn't want to give her an advance but then I decided to go for some kind of an experiment. Could she be that stupid?Experiment? Her the stupid one? You are buying pussy, not writing a psychology dissertation. I don't get the little games and tests with hookers. Keep it simple. Fuck them and pay them and repeat. Everybody knows the frog and scorpion story. They are there for money. If you want to test someone out then let it be a normal chick you are interested in and want to take things farther with, not someone you are paying to fuck. Stop trying to solve a mystery of something that is already cut and dry.
A lot of these girls are so dumb when it comes to future prospects, they have no idea the difference between long term money and short term gain.Chicks in Thailand are not asking for any tips. I merely drop them off the next morning and hand them their $30 and they say see you soon. No analyzing or PhD needed.
Mr Enternational
03-04-23, 04:10
Now on this trip multiple times at multiple places I've had the person whose in charge of the table tell me that the tip / service fee / propina that's on the receipt is not for them, but its for the restaurant and any cash tip I provide is for them. Like really? I think that is true, or at least partially it is. Even in the US there was recently a court case that decided any type of service charge goes to the restaurant, not the server as you may logically think. And in places like Thailand, whatever you put inside of the book is to be shared amongst everyone, but what you put directly into a person's hand is personally for them.
I would randomly ask someone at a restaurant I am not eating at or a local customer or even a hotel receptionist to be sure. I don't think that Colombians are giving big tips like that anyway. They just tend to leave the pocket change if anything. But if you are going to a place where a lot of foreigners and tourists eat then they are probably expecting the tips to come the American way, like a significant percentage of the bill.
Mr Enternational
03-04-23, 06:45
Leave your American sensibilities at home. This is dog eat dog, and everyone is going to try to get over on you. The waitress, the taxi driver, EVERYONE. It's the culture here.I suspect you are referring to it being the monger or tourist culture of Cartagena and not overall Colombian culture. My experience in Colombian culture is not at all of anyone trying to get over on me.
AcesOnTheRiver
03-04-23, 07:09
I always ask if the tip is included. Maybe it is because I am always out with my Colombian gal, but they have never pulled that stunt about "the tips do not go to me". I can see why it would work though and have many people fall for it.
I agree. Everyone has a hustle especially there.LOL guys, they more than likely don't get the tip! Now I'm definitely not saying you should be obligated to tip on top, my point is far from it, BUT I guarantee you they aren't lying or trying to hustle you when they say they don't get the tip. Most immigrant owned restaurants here in NYC and their bus boys, and waiters / waitresses (generally barely speak english) don't get tips. Immigrants (I. E. Indians and Chinese) keep their employees on a leash here. It's not the same as your local Applebees or Cheesecake factory. Therefore, It's not far fetched to think third world or second world countries, uneducated restaurant owners with a slave mentality and no labor laws enforced, don't pass their workers the tips. But again, I'm not saying you are obligated to go thru with the additional tip
AcesOnTheRiver
03-04-23, 07:14
Sorry to ask this here, but most of you know I've contributed in past with 3-4 trip reports (another coming first week of august hahaha) , so just wondering if anyone can help me out here as I got ignored in the RIO thread lol. I'm going there in a couple weeks, and all I want to know is if anyone knows similar spots to LDV and Space of Cartagena. I read about the termas, spas, strip clubs, etc. , but more interested in a LDV type setup.
Thanks in advance!
Mr Enternational
03-04-23, 10:39
wondering if anyone can help me out here as I got ignored in the RIO thread lol. I'm going there in a couple weeks, and all I want to know is if anyone knows similar spots to LDV and Space of Cartagena. I read about the termas, spas, strip clubs, etc. , but more interested in a LDV type setup.If you had read the Rio thread you would know there is a place with pretty much the same name. Maybe that is why you were ignored.
....So, I gave her a choice: here is 50 mil and we won't see each other anymore, or she forgets the "gift" thing and we meet again. To my surprise she went for 50 mil.....A bird in the hand.
Last night while hanging out in El Portal my Delirium chica calls me, the only thing I understood was "amor ayudame", then I see all the text messages from her. She's with a group of guys that's with girls she don't trust, they are all about to go back to some big house to finish the night so she wants me to hold some money for her and she will pick it up in the morning, sure I don't mind. I tell her come over to Portal and give me the money because I'm with someone, she says she can't leave the club or the cops will steal from her. Apparently, some cops are walking around in by the clubs randomly searching girls and stealing money out of their purses.
I walk over, see cops walking around, go in the club and she comes down meets me by the bathroom, hands me some Euros and dollars and asks for 20 mil for taxi. I give her the 20, and head back to Portal to finish up with my chica, pay the bill, back to the apartment. Count it out, 400 Euros, 200 US, toss it in the safe and off to play in the jacuzzi with my chica.
She comes over over early morning, and we have a little chat.
I ask her why couldn't she just hold on to the money, she says the girls sometimes steal from each other when they are in large groups and she didn't know if any of them would steal from her.
I ask her what's up with the cops, she says they do that all the time, they will stop girls and steal from them. I tell her she's Colombian so she can report them, she says that will only make things bad for her and they do worse to the Venezuelans. So I tell her what happened to me that night next to Hotel Caribe and she says, the taxi drivers work with the cops late at night and when a gringo is in the car with multiple people, they will approach a check point and flash their lights to the cops to let them know there is a gringo in the car and they can make some money together.
Just part of the food chain I guess. Someone is always taking from someone.
Tonight's my last night, I fly out tomorrow so I'm just going to chill, nice dinner then rooftop bar in Getsemani.
Finally I decided to check out the famous Chica Linda Night Club. The cab driver loaded 30 mil right away; we agreed on 20. When we passed the Club, which I didn't recognize, he made a strange roundabout on the next block and came back on the opposite side of the road (Diagonal 21 is one way, so, he couldn't come back), pointing to the club. Obviously he knew the place because we were talking about it all the way there. I never understood his move.
I entered the venue at 8:30 pm. I was the first client there! Girls were already there, about 10 of them. I bought a beer (National 20 mil!) and sat at the counter. The girls were coming to me to say Hello, and represent themselves. Out of all 10 I could hardly consider 2 to be more or less bangable. I have remembered the name one of those 2, Sophia.
300 mil per half an hour, everything with condom, right there in the private room. I finished my drink and left this place. For half an hour no more clients came. I came back to the Clock tower for 15 mil.
Since the last 2 days I spent with the same girl, a tall Venezolana with body of a model and pretty face. One night we went to the restaurant at the 5th floor in the walled city. The place is called Townhouse. I just wanted to check the place; it looked interesting, although the meal wasn't that good. Below on the street it was very hot but there on the terraza the breeze was blowing and the site of the night city was spectacular. But for tonight I wanted a change. Although she called a few times but I didn't reply.
I was making circles in the walled city not seeing anything interesting. Where did all pretty girls go? I remember that before in my previous visits I could easily find a decent girl, now nothing. Soon I saw my model, she decided to come anyway. We chatted a bit. I said that I left a phone in house which was true, because I don't have service anyway.
I went to keep on looking and all of a sudden 3 French guys started talking to me in French. Why? Do I look like French? Actually French is my weakest out of 4 languages I speak. Being out of practice for a few months I could hardly explain them what's going on in town, where to pick up girls and what the prices are. I thought about my model. Since she came she might be interested in these French. But looks like she went some place and I didn't see her anymore. Language was coming back and I kept sharing knowledge of the city because for these guys that was their first night in town.
My model appeared, and I waved for her to approach. She came and obviously was interested in this company but guys didn't go for her. Looks like they came to just take a look and spend some time in a club not being ready for something more serious although they kept asking detail where to meet girls and what the prices were. Not getting any offers from the French company my Venezolana decided to get back home and we agreed to see each other in two days.
I decided to get down to business and started approaching girls for a chat. The first one was seemingly not interested in any deals. I saw her every day on the Clock tower plaza. She kept reading her phone not paying attention to prospective customers. Venezolana with quite pretty face, but rather heavy ass for my taste. I was pondering what's more important pretty face or slim look when she decided this problem for me. 450 mil! And that was her final and the only number. Where do they get these prices? Who told them that this was the price? But she is in town for a year and somebody must have paid that.
I went on and found another group of 3 Venezolanas. One wasn't bad at all. We started chatting and turned out that she does everything with a condom. That is not a good sign. Even if I don't need a blow job usually it means that in the bed she is not that hot and heavy. Actually she was ready for full service but for 450 mil? Why 450? I guess because this is about $100 and somebody told them that they were worth it. My Venezuelan model takes only 300 mil and for the whole night 600. And she's got everything and does everything!
I kept looking and encountered another group of Venezolanas. I chose one. She also started with 400 but I promptly lowered it to my usual 250 for full service. She showed me a hotel right there in the walled city. I checked price. 100 mil / hour! In my previous visit I stayed in a hotel in Boca Grande. I could invite "una acompañante" for 115 mil for entire day and night with breakfast and all facilities, which I did a few times.
So, we headed for my usual hotel "por horas" for 30 mil in Getsemani close to the park.
After we parted I spoke to a group of 3 young Colombianas being here on vacation from Barranquilla if you take their words for face value. One of them was quite good; I would have taken her if I hadn't been empty. But this is another puzzle. None of them want to go alone with me, only all 3 and the price for quadrosome (is this correct word?) was 800 mil. I explained that even one for me could be too much and I like just one of them, the tallest and the prettiest. She explained she wouldn't do blowjob alone only in the group. "Lo siento, chicas". She shouted "mariconita" in my back. Is this the right way to do business? I don't think so.
Since the last 2 days I spent with the same girl, a tall Venezolana with body of a model and pretty face. One night we went to the restaurant at the 5th floor in the walled city. The place is called Townhouse. I just wanted to check the place; it looked interesting, although the meal wasn't that good. Below on the street it was very hot but there on the terraza the breeze was blowing and the site of the night city was spectacular. But for tonight I wanted a change. Although she called a few times but I didn't reply.Town house is cool, I usually go there to get away from the crazies. I usually hang out over by the "***** where's my Champane" sign where the shallow pool is as its away from the edge that's too windy. Was there last week, super windy at night, my chica kept complaining how cold it was but she's the one who decided to dress like its 100 degrees outside. I always like the signs in the elevators but I never did inquire about the free drink. Sliders and fries are great, I can always recommend them. The funny thing is while we were up there we kept seeing these 4 search lights in the sky and tried to figure out where they were coming from only to go on a nice side adventure to find out it was VSOP and the club on top of Delirium that's always empty. SMH.
I was making circles in the walled city not seeing anything interesting. Where did all pretty girls go? I remember that before in my previous visits I could easily find a decent girl, now nothing. Soon I saw my model, she decided to come anyway. We chatted a bit. I said that I left a phone in house which was true, because I don't have service anyway.Allot of girls are being taken off the market for extended period of time and not being replaced fast enough by new ones. When I reported last year that some gringos were monopolizing chicas time by taking them weeks at a time, it was swept under the rug. But that's what I was seeing and still seeing now. They are flying them out to Cancun, Tulum, Mexico City, Ecuador, Punta Cana, Jamica, Italy, Paris, etc, its all over these chicas whatsapp status where they are. When these girls come back, they don't have to walk the street looking for a gringo because that gringo paid them well enough for them to be good for 6 months or that gringo is sending them money monthly.
I went on and found another group of 3 Venezolanas. One wasn't bad at all. We started chatting and turned out that she does everything with a condom. That is not a good sign. Even if I don't need a blow job usually it means that in the bed she is not that hot and heavy. Actually she was ready for full service but for 450 mil? Why 450? I guess because this is about $100 and somebody told them that they were worth it. My Venezuelan model takes only 300 mil and for the whole night 600. And she's got everything and does everything!Yes, someone out there is actually paying that. I remember back in October I reported chicas that I knew for years who I always paid 200 mil per polvo now wanted 400 mil because people out there was paying them $100 an hour. And they now wanted condom everything when it was always no condom. I ended up telling most of them if they are going to charge me more and give me less ill find someone else, and I did with the help of a chica. These girls are getting good money in CTG, between my October and February visit, mostly all my chicas took off their braces and got veneers on top or both top and bottom, lipo on their stomachs so now its unrealistically hard and feels unnatural. One got a BBL and it looks good with clothes on but when clothes come off her ass looks like a plastic bag filled with rolled up socks. SMH.
After we parted I spoke to a group of 3 young Colombianas being here on vacation from Barranquilla if you take their words for face value. One of them was quite good; I would have taken her if I hadn't been empty. But this is another puzzle. None of them want to go alone with me, only all 3 and the price for quadrosome (is this correct word?) was 800 mil. I explained that even one for me could be too much and I like just one of them, the tallest and the prettiest. She explained she wouldn't do blowjob alone only in the group. "Lo siento, chicas". She shouted "mariconita" in my back. Is this the right way to do business? I don't think so.You were smart not to take on 3 by yourself.
PerkinWarbeck
03-07-23, 21:56
Can confirm I'm getting quoted 100 - 150 k from the young chicas on Skokka. Mileroticos is much the same. I don't bother with the clubs or downtown in general anymore unless it's for ice cream.
Happy hunting!
RockPaper7777
03-09-23, 20:32
Just a quick report.
Last night on the way to El Laguito the cops set up a check point why that police station where El Laguito and Boca Grande meets where the road changes to 1 way.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/No1C7hmy9MZEcCLp8?g_st=ic
Now, stupid ass me was walking around with $600 while constantly procrastinating on changing it out cause the rate was increasing and I was parting with one of my chicas and her friend till 2 am. I also had about 500 k in pesos.
We took a taxi from Getsemeni to El Laguito, 4 Cops pulled over the taxi and told all of us to get out the car. Patted me down, emptied my pockets and they saw the money, took both girls out the car and searched their bags. While I'm in the back of the taxi by the trunk being searched another cop searched the back of the taxi. Came to me and said "problema". Shows me a bag of white stuff and said coca. Now I don't do that shit and none of my girls do it as well. I already know where this shit is going, my girl starts arguing with the cop, they take my ID and both my chicas. Since they both Venezuelan they threatened to take them to Migration, but I know my girl here legally since she have a Cedula and the other have a Venezuelan ID.
I asked them where they found it cause it wasn't on any of us and they said in the back seat. I already know where it's going.
I pull one cop aside and start negotiating to make it go away. My girl over there arguing crazy loud with the other 3 cops. Then they arrest her and her friend and and said everyone is getting fined and going to jail. I pull my girl aside calm her down, pull the cop aside start negotiating again.
They said $100 per person. They after I paid they had the nerve to say they are letting us go because we are good people. SMH.
Don't be me, let my $300 extortion be your lesson.You are a wise man, Nypher. You handled the situation well, and getting out of that situation for $300 was a bargain.
Hey guys,
Just wanted to share my experience since I have been looking at some reports here that were useful.
First about myself, this is the 3rd time I come to Cartagena, mostly to practice kitesurf at la Boquilla during winter season for 1 month of holidays (when there is a lot of winds so it's a pretty nice spot) and with girls (either dating through Tinder or working girls) as a second "hobby". So I know a little bit of the scene and how it is working out even though I am not an expert. Since I am located a little bit outside the city (la boquilla is approx 15 min taxi from the center) I try to get girls using either websites (skodda, photoprepagos, mileroticos), dating app such as Tinder, or just on the real life directly in the clock tower / bars when I have the occasion to go in the center, a feedback on the different channels:
- real life: I have went once looking for girls on the center, usual spots, I didn't find a lot of pretty girls roaming around the clock towers so was quite disappointed. Then I went to Dolce Vita (which even increased their price for a beer, that must be the most expensive place to get a beer in Colombia) where there was a lot of girls, some were quite good looking, but all had this "I don't give a shit" attitude when I asked for their numbers. First time I get this feeling that the girls almost were not interesting? I feel like they are more interesting into guys that are a little bit less straightforward, probably because they feel like it will be easier to charge overpriced from less experienced guys? I although went to Space Club but the place looked quite depressing and the girls were all fat and not that good looking. In total I think I got 5/6 numbers from the streets and Dolce Vita, and when trying to discuss price I got quoted from 100 dollars to 200 dollars all speaking in dollars with minimal services. And none of them were ready to significantly negotiate the price below 400 k pesos even though they propose very basic services whereas from my previous trip I remember not having a lot of difficulties to negotiate 200/300 pesos for the hours. I believe that they don't have problems finding guys ready to pay the full 100 dollars price so they don't want to bother themselves with a 15 min taxi trip to my apartment.
- prepagos websites: was able to negotiate way better with quotes at around 200+taxis (I think girls working with internet are more willing to move around so it is not so much of a problem that I stay in la Boquilla) but it comes at the price of the usual fake accounts / traps / tricks to get money out of you, typically the very looking girl who charges below market but then demand you to prepay something with PayPal to "book" her. These are usually quite easy to spot and avoid. What is more difficult to prevent is the risk to get a girl that ends up being significantly less attractive than in their photos. I ended up meeting 3 girls, and so that you pretty much get the odds: one very good experience (pretty girl with good attitude), one average (girls that looks a little bit worse than in the photos but still good), and one bad (different girl than the photo, I suspect that there was an "agency" making the communication with whatsapp and the girl was not available so they just sent another one, the girl was not ugly and I was surprised so I did not refuse the meeting which is probably what I should have done).
- dating apps I think there are 3 king of profiles there:
- regular girls for non-paid dating: I met several but that is not the point here.
- working girls who will normally straight up say that they are looking for money and make it quite obvious. I met 2 which were 2 good experience. In the end I feel it to be better than websites since usually they don't use agency and you directly speak with the girl.
- "semi working" girl. They will not disclose that they are looking for money but when you want to meet them they will say that they need money to pay for medications (cause they are sick and need medications to get better so you can meet), or 200 k to pay for child keeping (don't know how much people pay for child keeping in Colombia but definitely not 200 k) or any other excuse to make you pay. Of course I completely avoid these profiles as you don't know at all what you are getting and I even if you pay for whatever they are asking you to meet I suppose if you want any sex they are going to find a way to ask even more. Another "trick" which I didn't really understand that happened to me 3 times is that when setting up a meeting the girl is saying that she is with their cousin and if they could both come together. Out of curiosity I almost said yes just to see what trick they had prepared to try to get money, but in the end I chose the safe way by not going through.
In summary, price seem to be increasing, and it seems to be more difficult to get a girls with decent service and good price, not sure how to explain it.
Hope this feedback helps some of you!
Mr Enternational
03-11-23, 06:37
or 200 k to pay for child keeping (don't know how much people pay for child keeping in Colombia but definitely not 200 k) or any other excuse to make you pay.30,000 per day for babysitter. I was trying to meet up with a chick in the Dominican Republic a couple of weeks ago. I think I was $200 in the hole before ever laying eyes on her. $20 babysitter, $20 taxi. Bih I can't afford to meet you!
Funny how it costs out the ass for them to leave the house to see you, but if they are leaving the house for any other reason I doubt if costs are stacking up the same.
Be cautious with any Venezuelan that you meet in the clock tower area no matter how nice they may seem when you get them back to your place you don't know what's going to happen don't pay them in advance go take any chances and if you can make sure that security will not let them out unless you come with them.
I recently met one there that seemed to be quite pleasant and when she eventually turned up two days later was apparently pimped out and a really bad experience which cost me $60 to get rid of her but could have been much much worse. I know people are not always down on the beach experience with the truth is the same girls are there almost everyday and that's not a bad thing as things are getting a little bit more tense here.
Appreciate any advice on where to get girls and things to do in Cartagena. Would be good to find a wingman to hang out with too.
Read through numerous site reports, seems to be loads of punter scams. Prefer to learn from my fellow mongers, rather than stumbling through my own mistakes.
Have been mongering for decades & fallen prey to almost every scam mentioned in reports (in one country or another). Fairly street wise now but still occasionally ruled by the smaller head, rather than the one that can think. Best to get myself somewhere where both heads are happy & aligned.
Have travelled to a number of South & Central American countries over the years but 1st time in Columbia. My Spanish is pathetic, usually get by with pantomime & google translate.
What?? Disappointed with these reports I'm reading. Returning to CTG after a long time and looks like things have changed for the worse reading these reports. Should I bring a paisa with me from Medellíand or should I brave the clocktower and Dolce Vita? These weekend billionaires killing the game.
SpiderRider
03-19-23, 01:02
Be cautious with any Venezuelan that you meet in the clock tower area no matter how nice they may seem when you get them back to your place you don't know what's going to happen don't pay them in advance go take any chances and if you can make sure that security will not let them out unless you come with them.
I recently met one there that seemed to be quite pleasant and when she eventually turned up two days later was apparently pimped out and a really bad experience which cost me $60 to get rid of her but could have been much much worse. I know people are not always down on the beach experience with the truth is the same girls are there almost everyday and that's not a bad thing as things are getting a little bit more tense here.Bottom Line with Venezolanas to always keep in mind: These girls are scared and desperate about day-to-day survival having fled hopeless circumstances of no fault of their own obviously, in homeland.
They are unwanted, received no functional education in the current Venezuela schools, (especially girls). Again, they are unwelcome in Colombia. For context, Venezuelans are not allowed in Panama for any reason. Other latin american countries have similar absolutist restrictions. These girls are very far away from their loved ones Many, even from their own very small children back home. Colombian girls generally despise the venezolanas. Do Not try to mix them in group date or party. The 2 groups of women may seem interchagnable to foreigners. They are not "apples to apples". I've had some good times with venezolanas. I even had one stay at my place in Medellíand for a couple of months. This is not a warning against Venezolanas. Just to help all to be more aware of who you are dealing with.
Been watching plenty of YouTube videos on Cartagena. I'll Be there in a few short weeks. Love catching up on the vibe before I go. Also been reading lots of local.
News and it really sounds like they are cracking down on issues. And seeing a lot of police presence in these YouTube videos.
I do plan on doing only Uber this trip. I've never used it there. But I like it's a random car each time and you know exactly who's picking you up. I plan on making my nights earlier. In by midnight maybe.
As far as these you tube videos and these guys posting about girls in ctg, are they that naive!? Oh we are sitting at an umbrella and the guy brings some girls over. We had no idea after hours they were pros. You kidding me!?
I'm looking forward to going. I don't expect much different from my other trips.
Mr Enternational
03-22-23, 02:02
I do plan on doing only Uber this trip. I've never used it there. But I like it's a random car each time and you know exactly who's picking you up.Why Uber instead of the cheaper Indriver or Didi?
Be cautious with any Venezuelan that you meet in the clock tower area no matter how nice they may seem when you get them back to your place you don't know what's going to happen don't pay them in advance go take any chances and if you can make sure that security will not let them out unless you come with them.
I recently met one there that seemed to be quite pleasant and when she eventually turned up two days later was apparently pimped out and a really bad experience which cost me $60 to get rid of her but could have been much much worse. I know people are not always down on the beach experience with the truth is the same girls are there almost everyday and that's not a bad thing as things are getting a little bit more tense here.I strongly disagree. The Venezuelan girls give less problems than the Colombian girls because they don't want any dealings with the police. If your going to get robbed or drugged it's going to be a Colombian because they will likely not face any repercussions. OP maybe it's the quality of women you deal with and not the nationality that's giving you problems.
I never heard of those apps. Rather just stick with Uber that I know and use.
I agree it's about the quality of who you're with.
My regular is going to fly in a week before me. Do some scouting. Get a few numbers for some trios. Can't wait to be there!
Today I've been purging the numbers I have gotten from tinder over the past month. My trip is about 3 weeks away. Girls change numbers. Leave. Etc. Also chatting them up and getting a feel for what they are into etc.
Most girls are quoting 400 k without me even asking. Some have brought up 100 $ or 120 $ and they are 9 and 10's. But I counter in chat oh pesos only. Can see when I'm there. Don't discuss now. And already down to 500,400 k.
I think you just need to know what you're doing.
Exchange rate hovering around 4800. Let's gooooo!!
Today I've been purging the numbers I have gotten from tinder over the past month. My trip is about 3 weeks away. Girls change numbers. Leave. Etc. Also chatting them up and getting a feel for what they are into etc.
Most girls are quoting 400 k without me even asking. Some have brought up 100 $ or 120 $ and they are 9 and 10's. But I counter in chat oh pesos only. Can see when I'm there. Don't discuss now. And already down to 500,400 k.
I think you just need to know what you're doing.
Exchange rate hovering around 4800. Let's gooooo!!Allot can happen to these girls in 3 weeks especially if you do not have a history with them where they know you won't flake on them.
Down to 500 K, 400 K for what exactly? An hour? If its an hour that on the high end.
Exchange rate is hovering around 4800, yes, but when I was there last month the exchange rate was close to 5000 and the cambrios didn't want to budge pass 4300, unless your plan is to pull cash out of the green ATMs with a no transaction fee debit card I would not be too excited.
Just a heads up, if hollywood Beach is your thing the beach construction pushed everyone to kiosk #4 so its hella crowded so the annoyance is increased, even the begging kids are there along with the trans.
Uber is great, just be warned at night they will cancel allot if you are going from Centro to El Laguito or Boa Grande because they know they will not get a fare to go back.
Stay safe, enjoy your trip and I would advise you to be off the streets before they set up the police checkpoints. I learned the hard way.
Yah I'm aware that's why I'm even purging #s already from before.
Shouldn't really discuss an amount of time with the girl. That's where a lot of you guys are going wrong. I'm feeling prices are the same as ever. This will be my 8th trip there I believe.
Always use ATM. Why would you ever exchange in person. Always will get charged more.
I only discuss what we are both into. She can mention some number and I may just reply we will see. If it's crazy I may counter to make sure I'm not wasting time.
I make it clear gift is given at end of date. She wants gift before my cock is in her mouth. No thanks.
Amazing how many girls are asking for $ before. Oh my rent is due and I have no money. Oh I need money for food today. I think it's too easy to send money digitally now.
I'm thinking of taking the whole taxi thing as far as using Uber myself. And if I am bring back a girl in the evening I will give her cash for a taxi. Totally worth an extra what 5 $ to just totally protect myself. If she takes it and leaves. Well whatever. I'm sure I dodged a bad date anyway hahah.
I only discuss what we are both into. She can mention some number and I may just reply we will see. If it's crazy I may counter to make sure I'm not wasting time.
I make it clear gift is given at end of date. She wants gift before my cock is in her mouth. No thanks.
Amazing how many girls are asking for $ before. Oh my rent is due and I have no money. Oh I need money for food today. I think it's too easy to send money digitally now.
I'm thinking of taking the whole taxi thing as far as using Uber myself. And if I am bring back a girl in the evening I will give her cash for a taxi. Totally worth an extra what 5 $ to just totally protect myself. If she takes it and leaves. Well whatever. I'm sure I dodged a bad date anyway hahah.They are becoming more and more like the Dominicans in Sosua. Something changed now more and more girls are asking for dollars. I asked a few of my Venezuelans what's up with that and they say the pesos are no good in Venezuela and Allot of them are using the money for Coyotes to come to America. I know 3 of my usuals currently stuck in Mexico trying to cross and a few that successfully made it across and got asylum.
The uptick of crime in Cartagena is another thing to think about. I now plan for the "when it happen" instead of the "if it will happen" as the frequency I'm there the more exposure I get in seeing the more shit happen to me that didn't before.
Mr Enternational
03-24-23, 05:10
Amazing how many girls are asking for $ before. Oh my rent is due and I have no money. Oh I need money for food today. I think it's too easy to send money digitally now.It is amazing how many guys are contacting hookers way before their trip. What do you think they are going to do besides ask for money? That is what they are there for, to get money. That is like calling the Cadillac dealership asking about a Fleetwood in June because you are expecting a big income tax return next March.
I understand guys are at home bored and excited about an upcoming trip, but these chicks are doing business and contacting them way before you are ready to do business with them is just wasting their time and getting you a higher price. Guys are treating getting hookers like they are investing in real estate when they should be treating it like ordering a pizza.
Mr Enternational
03-24-23, 05:29
Allot of them are using the money for Coyotes to come to America. I know 3 of my usuals currently stuck in Mexico trying to cross and a few that successfully made it across and got asylum.The border shit is insane right now. There is no need for an expensive coyote these days. Just buy a normal ticket to Mexico and go cross on your own. Right now Venezuelans do not need to sneak across. I know a few that have been let in. A chick I know from Santo Domingo recently went into $20,000 debt sneaking in with coyotes. She must really have big dreams to go into that much debt doing something illegal.
My nurse chick in Bogota and a friend of hers went to Tijuana to get in. They had them in holding at least a couple of week, then finally told them they are not letting people of her nationality in now. My girl from Honduras and her daughter were also allowed in a couple of weeks ago and are in Nashville now.
It is amazing how many guys are contacting hookers way before their trip. What do you think they are going to do besides ask for money? That is what they are there for, to get money. That is like calling the Cadillac dealership asking about a Fleetwood in June because you are expecting a big income tax return next March.
I understand guys are at home bored and excited about an upcoming trip, but these chicks are doing business and contacting them way before you are ready to do business with them is just wasting their time and getting you a higher price. Guys are treating getting hookers like they are investing in real estate when they should be treating it like ordering a pizza.Some of these guys get wild. On my Carnival trip (I'm never going again during an event) I know of 1 instance someone sent $1000 a week before he got there http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2786517&viewfull=1#post2786517 and my other 2 chicas made bank from just 1 client. They all came in Thursday and left Sunday. Dolce girl made $3500 other 2 chicas made $3000 so I would guess these guys were paying $1000 a day to them. SMH.
The border shit is insane right now. There is no need for an expensive coyote these days. Just buy a normal ticket to Mexico and go cross on your own. Right now Venezuelans do not need to sneak across. I know a few that have been let in. A chick I know from Santo Domingo recently went into $20,000 debt sneaking in with coyotes. She must really have big dreams to go into that much debt doing something illegal.
My nurse chick in Bogota and a friend of hers went to Tijuana to get in. They had them in holding at least a couple of week, then finally told them they are not letting people of her nationality in now. My girl from Honduras and her daughter were also allowed in a couple of weeks ago and are in Nashville now.Yea its crazy at the border. One of my girls send me a video of lots of people looking like they were ready to rush the border. Got one in Tamaulipas waiting to cross but looks like she's doing well with housing.
One of my Venezuelan ran back to Cartegena after getting a new phone. Said the police took everything from her in Mexico and locked her up for a month. I keep telling these girls crossing is one thing but once you get here you need some kind of network to get housing and some sort of income so you can eat. Unless I'm mistaken and the government gives them a monthly stipend like Section 8 and SNAP, but I don't know.
20 K just to go from DR to here? Damn, I really don't get it, people are going through hell to come here for opportunity and people who are born here are willing to leave and go to their country to live for a better quality of life.
Tiepolo2002
03-25-23, 19:27
Dear fellow mongers.
I have been several times to Cartagena (I am a European living in Panama) and I think it's a vibrant, cool, rough city with lots of hot girls and some risks.
Some time ago, I browsed online ads and I found a girl who looked hot for a reasonable price. She texted me and gave me the direction below:
"Edificio Faro Tequendama".
https://goo.gl/maps/iDcanoiXFFcpgxEw9
Now, when I entered I was trying to go straight to her room, but a nasty doorman stopped me and treated me really bad, asking for ID and taking notes in his book, before calling the girl.
I was really pissed off about that. Then I met the girl, who was not that hot, and the service was mechanical and quick. So, avoid this place at any cost and avoid online girls with fake ads.
Walking around the street you might find the occasional gem, but I would say that the chances of things going bad (e. G. Overpriced ladies or awful service) are pretty high.
So I tried my luck with sugar dating instead.
Two weeks ago I hooked online a normal studying girl from the region of Cordoba, and invited her to Cartagena. She is a young mother (24 years old) and got immediately interested about a sugar relationship. We spent some amazing days in a nice hotel in Getsemani, but after the second day she got her period (bummer).
She looks very hot, about 1. 74 m, very slim belly, nice round ass and good natural boobs. And her face is just lovely.
Now we are going to meet again next week, this time I have booked an AirBnB in Boca Grande. I am really looking forward to meet her again.
Mr Enternational
03-26-23, 09:40
Now, when I entered I was trying to go straight to her room, but a nasty doorman stopped me and treated me really bad, asking for ID and taking notes in his book, before calling the girl.
I was really pissed off about that.Are you blowing this out of proportion? Whenever I stay in an airbnb building with security in Colombia and someone visits me, they always take the ID and write down the info in the logbook. Why did that make you angry? Hell whenever I arrive to the place to stay there they also take my ID and write the info in the log.
Oh I don't expect a girl to chat with me constantly for a month or two before I come. But I do start looking early to find 2-3 girls to build a friendship with. I do enjoy taking someone out. Having fun etc. And I make it clear I won't be in Cartagena until x date.
I guess I should have fully explained my comment that I'm amazed how many girls ask to be sent money, because I'm sure a large number of men do it. Don't do it! Sorry baby pesos only. Sorry baby. Money when I see you. Easy. Don't fall for it. Oh my phone will be turned off. Well then so be it.
I personally would never ever go to a girls place. No way. Come to my hotel or apartment where I know who's in the closet or behind the door. Fuck that.
Shit I remember the long days of 3200-3400 for a dollar. 4800 is beautiful.
This morning on tinder all of a sudden there are a shitload more girls. Fresh shipment before the holidays? I know my girl from Medellin is going today.
Have any of you been to Hom or luxury men's spa? I just like the kinky idea of walking around the walled city. Maybe having lunch. Then going to get a massage and a tug, walk right out like nothing happened, back in the busy street. Maybe go get an ice cream Hahahah. Not expecting anything more than a mediocre massage LOL.
Have any of you been to Hom or luxury men's spa? I just like the kinky idea of walking around the walled city. Maybe having lunch. Then going to get a massage and a tug, walk right out like nothing happened, back in the busy street. Maybe go get an ice cream Hahahah. Not expecting anything more than a mediocre massage LOL.I too want to know if these or any others are worth it. I was thinking of spa hopping during the day for at least one day on my upcoming trip.
I also wanted to know if there was anything similar in Getsemani. From my research I just see people sitting around the main square and some side streets eating. I assume there are some workers there but they seem to blend in a much better than the ones at the clock tower.
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