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Tiepolo2002
03-26-23, 17:23
Are you blowing this out of proportion? Whenever I stay in an airbnb building with security in Colombia and someone visits me, they always take the ID and write down the info in the logbook. Why did that make you angry? Hell whenever I arrive to the place to stay there they also take my ID and write the info in the log.Hello, thank you for your comment.
You are basically right, but I got pissed off because:
1) the doorman was extremely rude.
2) the girl did not come to the reception to pick me up as she should have.
PerkinWarbeck
03-26-23, 17:49
The numbers being quoted here do not reflect reality. 1 k USD for a night? That's more expensive than Europe or the US. The most I've ever seen quoted is 150 USD for a night of bareback sex, and that's still an insane price. The most I've seen is 400.000 COP for a Tinder girl as an opener, and even that is highway robbery.
Remember guys, these girls service Colombian men first, and they typically charge them 100 to 200 k for two shots. There's another website similar to this one where they review the girls. They are more than willing to do the same for you, but you have to be able to ask them in Spanish.
Elvis 2008
03-26-23, 22:01
Walking around the street you might find the occasional gem, but I would say that the chances of things going bad (e. G. Overpriced ladies or awful service) are pretty high.
So I tried my luck with sugar dating instead.
Two weeks ago I hooked online a normal studying girl from the region of Cordoba, and invited her to Cartagena. She is a young mother (24 years old) and got immediately interested about a sugar relationship. We spent some amazing days in a nice hotel in Getsemani, but after the second day she got her period (bummer).
She looks very hot, about 1. 74 m, very slim belly, nice round ass and good natural boobs. And her face is just lovely.
Now we are going to meet again next week, this time I have booked an AirBnB in Boca Grande. I am really looking forward to meet her again.I agree. I am in Cartagena every month or two and do not typically see that many hotties walking around like I have in Medellin or even Bogota. Granted, I have not gone to the high end clubs like LDV.
Still I think you do it like you did. There are so many tourists in CTG that I think the hottest women get cocky and want the world. Almost all the women in Colombia are dying to go to the nicer places like Cartagena, Santa Marta, and San Andres for a vacation.
I think it is best if you meet them before you have them travel if possible, but it looks like it worked out for you.
Your gal is stunning. Did you use SA / seeking as a sugar site? Or something else?
I think most women even the hottest ones will do P4 P if it is discrete, and the sugar sites allow women to do that.
Dear fellow mongers.
I have been several times to Cartagena (I am a European living in Panama) and I think it's a vibrant, cool, rough city with lots of hot girls and some risks.
Some time ago, I browsed online ads and I found a girl who looked hot for a reasonable price. She texted me and gave me the direction below:
"Edificio Faro Tequendama".
https://goo.gl/maps/iDcanoiXFFcpgxEw9
Now, when I entered I was trying to go straight to her room, but a nasty doorman stopped me and treated me really bad, asking for ID and taking notes in his book, before calling the girl.
I was really pissed off about that. Then I met the girl, who was not that hot, and the service was mechanical and quick. So, avoid this place at any cost and avoid online girls with fake ads.
Walking around the street you might find the occasional gem, but I would say that the chances of things going bad (e. G. Overpriced ladies or awful service) are pretty high.
So I tried my luck with sugar dating instead.
Two weeks ago I hooked online a normal studying girl from the region of Cordoba, and invited her to Cartagena. She is a young mother (24 years old) and got immediately interested about a sugar relationship. We spent some amazing days in a nice hotel in Getsemani, but after the second day she got her period (bummer).
She looks very hot, about 1. 74 m, very slim belly, nice round ass and good natural boobs. And her face is just lovely.
Now we are going to meet again next week, this time I have booked an AirBnB in Boca Grande. I am really looking forward to meet her again.If you been to Cartegena several times, then you know just about all these buildings / hotels have a wristband system or some form of check-in at the front desk. Its to prevent any random person from walking in there and doing who knows what LOL. Ideally the guests should meet visitors in the lobby. The only building that I've been in that would let visitors up without the guest coming down to get them is Palmetto Sunset (I wouldn't recommend this place to anyone due to visitor hours policy), that building, security will call the intercom in the apartment and announce the visitor. Shit happens, we live and learn.
As for the girl, yes, some of them do rent out those apartments in Boca Grande and El Laguito by the month for incalls and in 1 day can make the months rent but I would never, ever do an incall anywhere as I never know whose waiting to rob me when I leave or watching me to rob me later as these girls are good bait.
The numbers being quoted here do not reflect reality. 1 k USD for a night? That's more expensive than Europe or the US. The most I've ever seen quoted is 150 USD for a night of bareback sex, and that's still an insane price. The most I've seen is 400.000 COP for a Tinder girl as an opener, and even that is highway robbery.
Remember guys, these girls service Colombian men first, and they typically charge them 100 to 200 k for two shots. There's another website similar to this one where they review the girls. They are more than willing to do the same for you, but you have to be able to ask them in Spanish.The girls I spoke about stayed with the gringo from Thursday. Sunday, and for that duration two of them made $3000 and one of them made $3500. Those who only travel once or twice a year don't care and will just throw money, that's on them, those of us who travel often know better and will just take another route, to each their own. One of my chicas already told me same girls that charge gringos $100 in Centro charge local guys 50 K in the barrios.
Yo! What's chica friendly in Bocagrande besides Sunset?
RamDavidson84
03-27-23, 03:07
The girls I spoke about stayed with the gringo from Thursday. Sunday, and for that duration two of them made $3000 and one of them made $3500. Those who only travel once or twice a year don't care and will just throw money, that's on them, those of us who travel often know better and will just take another route, to each their own. One of my chicas already told me same girls that charge gringos $100 in Centro charge local guys 50 K in the barrios.Some guys are so fucking stupid. If you have $3500/$7000 to drop on a chica or two for a weekend, why even go to Colombia? Skip all the travel and hassle and just grab a gem off Seeking. I would much rather party with a girl that speaks english vs spanish and no all day travel to and from. And if I was going to travel, with that kind of cash I would probably pick a classier and safer destination. Spain comes to mind even though I have never been.
PerkinWarbeck
03-27-23, 16:25
If you been to Cartegena several times, then you know just about all these buildings / hotels have a wristband system or some form of check-in at the front desk. Its to prevent any random person from walking in there and doing who knows what LOL. Ideally the guests should meet visitors in the lobby. The only building that I've been in that would let visitors up without the guest coming down to get them is Palmetto Sunset (I wouldn't recommend this place to anyone due to visitor hours policy), that building, security will call the intercom in the apartment and announce the visitor. Shit happens, we live and learn.
As for the girl, yes, some of them do rent out those apartments in Boca Grande and El Laguito by the month for incalls and in 1
day can make the months rent but I would never, ever do an incall anywhere as I never know whose waiting to rob me when I leave or watching me to rob me later as these girls are good bait.The incalls in Bocagrande and Laguito are perfectly safe. The girls literally stay there to attract foreigners. I was just down there to see a muchacha at Hotel Hollywood Beach a few Saturdays ago.
The girls on Mileroticos aren't trying to rob you. It's the clock tower girls you should worry about.
PerkinWarbeck
03-27-23, 16:35
The girls I spoke about stayed with the gringo from Thursday. Sunday, and for that duration two of them made $3000 and one of them made $3500. Those who only travel once or twice a year don't care and will just throw money, that's on them, those of us who travel often know better and will just take another route, to each their own. One of my chicas already told me same girls that charge gringos $100 in Centro charge local guys 50 K in the barrios.The girls are lying to impress you. I want to remind you, the annual minimum wage in Colombia is 3000 USD. These girls lie. Usually for no reason at all. Just to talk. Do you speak Spanish? Because many girls struggle to even get 1 customer at night at 250 k COP, they simply do not charge as much.
The girls are lying to impress you. I want to remind you, the annual minimum wage in Colombia is 3000 USD. These girls lie. Usually for no reason at all. Just to talk. Do you speak Spanish? Because many girls struggle to even get 1 customer at night at 250 k COP, they simply do not charge as much.The annual minimum salary thing is being brought up too many times. And honestly there is no point and here's why.
While the min salary is 1. 2 mil a month that's in the whole country including the poorest areas.
The AVERAGE salary for a worker in a city like Medellin is 8-1000 usd a month.
Now as it translates to prostitutes. Look at the USA.
Some girls charge 300-1000 usd by the hour. So what does that compare to when it comes to the average or min US salary.
Another issue it these girls albeit from a second world country and to be clear Colombia is NOT THIRD WORLD, they are westernized especially the high end girls who have climbed the social ladder somehow to find their exclusive gringo clientele. They know how much can be made and at some point refuse to settle for less.
The iPhones and brand names cost more in Colombia.
My issue with the gringos is not that they spend all this money. It's that they spend it willing to settle for subpar service. Guys are paying 300 usd to get covered blow jobs.
At least make these girls work for their $$.
Mr Enternational
03-27-23, 18:48
The annual minimum salary thing is being brought up too many times. And honestly there is no point and here's why.
While the min salary is 1. 2 mil a month that's in the whole country including the poorest areas.
The AVERAGE salary for a worker in a city like medellin is 8-1000 usd a month.Where did you get your figures from? Here it says the average salary of a middle class person is 1,600,000 or $342 and a high class person $1,369.
Where did you get your figures from? Here it says the average salary of a middle class person is 1,600,000 or $342 and a high class person $1,369.2 years ago? My gfs dad lives in itagui doing construction. His salary is 3. 2 million a month. I know this for a fact. But you're missing the point. Prostitutes always get paid more than average salaries. In every single country. So why is it guys want to pick on Colombian women on how much they're worth? Average looking girls are getting 500-1 k an hour in the states.
In any country prostution or drugs or whatever hustle will make a lot more than average income. That’s just how it is.
The Colombian women who are yesterdays news in their own country are considered dimes over here in the states getting stupid money making 2 k a day and being propositioned by sugar daddies.
That's why I say guys are being misled and sometimes really don't know this "world" that the girls are living in.
Where did you get your figures from? Here it says the average salary of a middle class person is 1,600,000 or $342 and a high class person $1,369.There is the average in Medellin for 2023.
Mr Enternational
03-27-23, 22:27
Prostitutes always get paid more than average salaries. In every single country. So why is it guys want to pick on Colombian women on how much they're worth?You also must remember that most hookers make money in spurts. Most of them are not making constant or consistent money. They may get $500 for an hour with a customer, but that is not saying they are taking on 8 customers per day. I would even say in a place where prostitution is legal, the margin is not high at all. If it was then we would see a bunch of facebook or tinder chicks pulling up in Mercedes, but half of them do not even have the money to get to the customer on their own.
We can be pretty damn sure that the average Colombian guy is not paying those chicks anywhere near $100. As Nypher said, the chick goes across town and charges locals 10 times less than foreigners in the tourist areas. The chicks are only worth that much to foreign tourists or local drug dealers. They are not Heidi Fleissing it up among the general local population.
I was in Amsterdam and asked a chick in one of those boxes how much. She said 200 euro for 30 minutes. I asked her why it was so expensive. She said it was because she had to pay 200 euro to rent that box for 4 hours. So she had to at least get one customer in those 4 hours just to pay for the box. And I did not see guys lining up to get their turn with those chicks in the boxes. She was in no way shape or form getting rich around that place.
It never occurred to me that they have to rent those boxes in Amsterdam. Can't say that I have ever been interested regardless but noteworthy to discover what they have to pay to rent a spot there. Agree that most of the hookers in the world are only making money over short term spurts. Not to many millionaires out of that.
You also must remember that most hookers make money in spurts. Most of them are not making constant or consistent money. They may get $500 for an hour with a customer, but that is not saying they are taking on 8 customers per day. I would even say in a place where prostitution is legal, the margin is not high at all. If it was then we would see a bunch of facebook or tinder chicks pulling up in Mercedes, but half of them do not even have the money to get to the customer on their own.
We can be pretty damn sure that the average Colombian guy is not paying those chicks anywhere near $100. As Nypher said, the chick goes across town and charges locals 10 times less than foreigners in the tourist areas. The chicks are only worth that much to foreign tourists or local drug dealers. They are not Heidi Fleissing it up among the general local population.
I was in Amsterdam and asked a chick in one of those boxes how much. She said 200 euro for 30 minutes. I asked her why it was so expensive. She said it was because she had to pay 200 euro to rent that box for 4 hours. So she had to at least get one customer in those 4 hours just to pay for the box. And I did not see guys lining up to get their turn with those chicks in the boxes. She was in no way shape or form getting rich around that place.
PerkinWarbeck
03-28-23, 13:15
The annual minimum salary thing is being brought up too many times. And honestly there is no point and here's why.
While the min salary is 1. 2 mil a month that's in the whole country including the poorest areas.
The AVERAGE salary for a worker in a city like medellin is 8-1000 usd a month.
Now as it translates to prostitutes. Look at the USA.
Some girls charge 300-1000 usd by the hour. So what does that compare to when it comes to the average or min US salary.
Another issue it these girls albeit from a second world country and to be clear Colombia is NOT THIRD WORLD, they are westernized especially the high end girls who have climbed the social ladder somehow to find their exclusive gringo clientele. They know how much can be made and at some point refuse to settle for less..You are dead wrong. The minimum wage actually overstates the average Colombian's earnings because a huge portion of the economy is informal, meaning they don't report their wages. Think of the folks who operate fruit or arepa stands. The sellers on the beach. Even the informal taxi drivers.
You can look at what folks are being offered for work here.
https://co.computrabajo.com/trabajo-de-mesero-en-cartagena-de-indias#6 F027 D2 EC0274 EBB61373 E686 DCF3405.
Literally minimum wage for a bachelor's degree earned WITH experience.
And Colombia is absolutely a 3rd world country. The girls you are calling social climbers are just working girls you meet with foreigners. And those girls do most of their work with Colombian men. I can't believe some of y'all are this naïve.
PerkinWarbeck
03-28-23, 13:28
2 years ago?? My gfs dad lives in itagui doing construction. His salary is 3. 2 million a month. I know this for a fact. But you're missing the point. Prostitutes always get paid more than average salaries. In every single country. So why is it guys want to pick on Colombian women on how much they're worth? Average looking girls are getting 500-1 k an hour in the states.
In any country prostution or drugs or whatever hustle will make a lot more than average income. Thats just how it is.
The Colombian women who are yesterdays news in their own country are considered dimes over here in the states getting stupid money making 2 k a day and being propositioned by sugar daddies.
That's why I say guys are being misled and sometimes really don't know this "world" that the girls are living in.Yes. They are getting paid more than the average salary IN PESOS. Not USD. An American girl will get paid more because she lives in the US where salaries are higher. Any Colombian girl who makes it to the states or Europe to be a working girl, is the best of the best. Because salaries are so much lower in Colombia.
You are dead wrong. The minimum wage actually overstates the average Colombian's earnings because a huge portion of the economy is informal, meaning they don't report their wages. Think of the folks who operate fruit or arepa stands. The sellers on the beach. Even the informal taxi drivers.
You can look at what folks are being offered for work here.
https://co.computrabajo.com/trabajo-de-mesero-en-cartagena-de-indias#6 F027 D2 EC0274 EBB61373 E686 DCF3405.
Literally minimum wage for a bachelor's degree earned WITH experience.
And Colombia is absolutely a 3rd world country. The girls you are calling social climbers are just working girls you meet with foreigners. And those girls do most of their work with Colombian men. I can't believe some of why'all are this nave.Please show me where it says Colombia is a third world country. Because it really isn't.
PerkinWarbeck
03-29-23, 03:18
Please show me where it says Colombia is a third world country. Because it really isn't..It's a third world (developing) country because it has a weak industrial base and economy.
This is such a silly thing to argue about on a forum about prostitutes.
The girls are lying to impress you. I want to remind you, the annual minimum wage in Colombia is 3000 USD. These girls lie. Usually for no reason at all. Just to talk. Do you speak Spanish? Because many girls struggle to even get 1 customer at night at 250 k COP, they simply do not charge as much.I agree that the girls are lying. First of all, what dude is flying into Colombia with $10,000 in cash? Secondly, there's no way you can get that much from ATMs and the pile in pesos would require a shopping back (comical). Are these girls on Venmo now? Perhaps. IDK. Last of all, 99% of the girls I know would take off a couple months if they made that much in a weekend. There is no mentality to save money and keep working.
Elvis 2008
03-30-23, 20:49
Some guys are so fucking stupid. If you have $3500/$7000 to drop on a chica or two for a weekend, why even go to Colombia? Skip all the travel and hassle and just grab a gem off Seeking. I would much rather party with a girl that speaks english vs spanish and no all day travel to and from. And if I was going to travel, with that kind of cash I would probably pick a classier and safer destination. Spain comes to mind even though I have never been.No doubt. If you want a hot Colombian woman, there are plenty in Mexico on Twitter. And the best looking Venezuelans I have ever seen and some of the best looking Colombians have been in Mexico.
RamDavidson84
03-31-23, 03:41
Please show me where it says Colombia is a third world country. Because it really isn't. 🤦127996;8205;9794;65039;129318;127996;8205;9794;65039;.So third world is a very outdated and irrelevant term for what it was intended to be. Third world was a term used by western governments for countries that did not form some type of alliance with a and. A. T. O. Or Warsaw Pact country prior to the fall of the Soviet Union. Most of those countries tended to not be industrialized and had a very low global trade value for reserve currencies like the dollar, ruble, yen, etc.
Based on per capita G. The. P. , education, housing, healthcare, and overall quality of living, Colombia is not on par with a western nation, there is a significant difference between the two. That does not mean Colombia is a savage land of poverty stricken barbarians, but with out a doubt the economic opportunities which are available are far behind the west. You can take your dollars and average American salary and it will go far in the country. The same cannot be said for the peso and a Colombian Salary.
So in short, If you wanted to still classify nations by modern measures of economic health, Colombia would be several tiers or "worlds" behind the USA.
The girls are lying to impress you. I want to remind you, the annual minimum wage in Colombia is 3000 USD. These girls lie. Usually for no reason at all. Just to talk. Do you speak Spanish? Because many girls struggle to even get 1 customer at night at 250 k COP, they simply do not charge as much.These girls don't have to lie to me, these specific chicas telling me and showing me another gringo who paid that much does nothing for me. It was just a quick conversation I had with them because I was talking about carnival and asked them to join me and they said they had a high paying gringo coming in those days so they couldn't. Everywhere have high paying gringos that don't care, I don't know the type of relationship they have or history they have. They could of have had a Seeking relationship, or met in the club or tinder. I don't know and I didn't ask.
All I did was ask them to join me and they said they couldn't and told me why, after carnival ended we had another conversation and I asked how much they made and they told me and sent a picture. I always call bullshit on these chicas and these three always back up what they say with either a video, photos, or even a video call.
These girls make big money when there are big events in Colombia or when places like America have 3 day weekends like Memorial Day, 4th of July, etc.
I agree that the girls are lying. First of all, what dude is flying into Colombia with $10,000 in cash? Secondly, there's no way you can get that much from ATMs and the pile in pesos would require a shopping back (comical). Are these girls on Venmo now? Perhaps. IDK. Last of all, 99% of the girls I know would take off a couple months if they made that much in a weekend. There is no mentality to save money and keep working.Who flew into Colombia with $10,000 in cash? That risk for confiscation.
I do not know about Venmo but I can confirm many of these girls have PayPal and they link it to their Nequi so they can pull out Pesos.
Some also have Zelle. How they do it is they get someone they trust in the US with a Zelle account and have the gringo send the money to the that gringo that they trust, then that gringo either sends the money to the chica via WU or Paypal.
I've reported prior on Zelle and Paypal in Colombia.
Or if you don't mind rap music with the and-word you are all set at Hollywood Beach these days. It's pretty unbearable actually.Some of them just don't know how to leave the BS back at home and bring it with them like they cannot function without the drama. Travel is supposed to be relaxing. I don't know who gave these people passports LOL.
I went through hell to get my American Passport back in the 90's, and now they just giving it out like free candy letting all sorts of people out the country giving us travelers a bad view.
So third world is a very outdated and irrelevant term for what it was intended to be. Third world was a term used by western governments for countries that did not form some type of alliance with a and. A. T. O. Or Warsaw Pact country prior to the fall of the Soviet Union. Most of those countries tended to not be industrialized and had a very low global trade value for reserve currencies like the dollar, ruble, yen, etc.
Based on per capita G. The. P. , education, housing, healthcare, and overall quality of living, Colombia is not on par with a western nation, there is a significant difference between the two. That does not mean Colombia is a savage land of poverty stricken barbarians, but with out a doubt the economic opportunities which are available are far behind the west. You can take your dollars and average American salary and it will go far in the country. The same cannot be said for the peso and a Colombian Salary.
So in short, If you wanted to still classify nations by modern measures of economic health, Colombia would be several tiers or "worlds" behind the USA.I think the line of confusion is this.
Colombia is a massive sized country.
So when discussing certain parts like Cartagena Medellin and Bogota these areas in particular are not as poor as people deem it out to be.
Yes it's ages behind western societies as far as wealth.
But these cities are very modernized. Many locals make good $$.
But those are only 3 cities in a big ass country.
So when expecting to pay bottom barrel prices for a girl in one of these cities and using the logic of min salary it is absolutely moot. Why? Because I'm sure they have been exposed to the finer things in life at some point.
Elvis 2008
03-31-23, 17:44
These girls don't have to lie to me, these specific chicas telling me and showing me another gringo who paid that much does nothing for me. It was just a quick conversation I had with them because I was talking about carnival and asked them to join me and they said they had a high paying gringo coming in those days so they couldn't. Everywhere have high paying gringos that don't care, I don't know the type of relationship they have or history they have. They could of have had a Seeking relationship, or met in the club or tinder. I don't know and I didn't ask.
Yeah, if you do not know Colombian pricing and only know hotties in the USA making 500+ an hour and up, it is very possible a guy would spend $3000 on a Colombian woman and think he is getting a bargain.
Some of them just don't know how to leave the BS back at home and bring it with them like they cannot function without the drama. Travel is supposed to be relaxing. I don't know who gave these people passports LOL.
I went through hell to get my American Passport back in the 90's, and now they just giving it out like free candy letting all sorts of people out the country giving us travelers a bad view.With you 100% I.
T's a deah spiral as the girls get hardened by them.
Ruins the vibe in the city and especially the beach.
I ad use folks to start looking elsewhere.
Mr Enternational
03-31-23, 18:25
So when expecting to pay bottom barrel prices for a girl in one of these cities and using the logic of min salary it is absolutely moot. Why? Because I'm sure they have been exposed to the finer things in life at some point.Sure they have been exposed to the finer things, but they also realize they turn back into pumpkins at midnight. It is the foreign "millionaire" that is responsible for convincing them they are worth more. You see that by merely reading the various threads on this website.
It happens in every country. Guys coming through willing to pay less than it would be at home regardless that it is much more than the local norm. Do you really think the chicks in Gusto's are getting the $300 in the barrios that they ask of the foreigners in the club? If they were then they would not be living in those barrios, but the finer things would be their lifestyle.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2753882#post2753882
Remember my report from October how they scammed us at this same Agua Azul with the bill that came up to about $900 because they added extra shit on there and my chica was arguing with them? Well, looks like they are at it again and this time they throwing chairs at the JAJAJA.
Remember, always ask how much up front, keep track of the order and don't let them take no pictures of you. Also remember the boat crew is not your friends they are there to make money on thop of what they were already paid for the day.
Its in Spanish but if you scroll down on the page theres a 1 minute video of the inicident.
https://www.infobae.com/colombia/2023/03/26/vuelve-y-juega-nueva-rina-entre-turistas-y-locales-en-cartagena-esta-vez-por-perdida-de-dinero/
PerkinWarbeck
03-31-23, 23:54
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Elvis 2008
04-01-23, 00:41
Then I'm calling you a liar. These girls are not earning that much.This girl is a $1000 an hour. https://tryst.link/escort/secretvixen.
Guys that pay those rates would think $3000 for a few days is nothing.
I agree that the girls are lying. First of all, what dude is flying into Colombia with $10,000 in cash? Secondly, there's no way you can get that much from ATMs and the pile in pesos would require a shopping back (comical). Are these girls on Venmo now? Perhaps. IDK. Last of all, 99% of the girls I know would take off a couple months if they made that much in a weekend. There is no mentality to save money and keep working.These are the agencies I have used.
For customers who send to Colombia from the United States, as of writing, the initial sending limits with Remitly are:
$2,999 in 24 hours.
Western Union: You can send up to USD $7500 to bank accounts in Colombia using our online services or at our agent locations. You can also send up to USD $5000 for cash pickup at a Colombian agent location.
Pangea: You can send up to $6,000 using a debit card. This limit also applies to any receiver. Note: The $6,000 limit is refreshed every 30 days.
I needed to send $5000 to my gal for a deposit on our apartment. I tried high amounts and got hassled and money was frozen ETC. So I then used all three services and transferred $1000 using a combination of all three services, and it was done in 2 days.
You do not need to use cash or use ATM there. I use Remitly and money instantly goes into her checking account.
Giving women this much money is doable. It is probably dumb but it is doable.
And Nypher has given really good info for month / years on Cartagena. I am not sure why you guys are trashing him. He is just repeating what he was told.
Sure they have been exposed to the finer things, but they also realize they turn back into pumpkins at midnight. It is the foreign "millionaire" that is responsible for convincing them they are worth more. You see that by merely reading the various threads on this website.
It happens in every country. Guys coming through willing to pay less than it would be at home regardless that it is much more than the local norm. Do you really think the chicks in Gusto's are getting the $300 in the barrios that they ask of the foreigners in the club? If they were then they would not be living in those barrios, but the finer things would be their lifestyle.All the girls in these clubs whether Gustos or Dolce Vita etc they make their $$ The problem is they got bfs family members etc waiting on them. It's like the millionaire and his crew. One person pays. Same with these girls.
But the gringos only know the girl and to her 200 mil is not big $$ anymore.
Every girl starts out and 150-200 mil is big $$ when they're 18.
Then they go out make a 2-300 $ usd score with a gringo let's say in lleras or cartagena.
They do it a couple more times. Now they're expecting that kind of money all the time. So they go and treat their families and friends to vacations. Use on plastic surgery. Expensive make up, hair, clothes etc.
She has now put herself in a position where she went from a 6-8 or a 7-9 for some guys.
So now she's not taking 200 mil anymore.
If you generalize this into anything it's a common theme of life in any country.
The paying customer dictates what they're worth.
The higher the demand she'll get a bigger head and charge more. Weed out the lower paying guys.
The reason they stay in their barrios is because of their poor money management.
The 1% that are smart and I know a couple have bought property invested in their own businesses and their own education.
But they use the same logic as well.
There's simply nothing that can be done.
So prices are all over the place. But guys just be smart and don't over pay!
Haven't heard any crazy stories past 2-3 weeks out of ctg. Seems things are being quieted down a bit.
Can't wait to go. Walk around in the morning. Find a empanada and beer. Start texting my girls to see who's awake for a morning workout.
Cartagena is quickly becoming the most economically important city in that country. They won't let it go downhill.
Then I'm calling you a liar. These girls are not earning that much.I have nothing to gain from this forum by lying about 3 chicas making $3000 - $3500 in a few days during Carnival. The chicas have nothing to gain from me by lying to me saying they made that much from 1 gringo during carnival. I just don't see the motive why they or I would make up something like that.
All I do is pass on the information as I get it, or as I experience it. If you're experiencing something different, pass it on as well to help the next person that comes along. The whole start of this was me trying to inform others that if they have a favourite girl they want to be with during Carnival that they might want to reach out to her early to make sure she is available as I reached out to my top 3 and all 3 of them were already taken by high paying gringos way before they arrived and one of them even made an advance deposit.
I don't know how we got to this point.
(Duplicate post but I had to fix an important typo).
Mr Enternational
04-01-23, 16:49
So prices are all over the place. But guys just be smart and don't over pay!The problem being is that one guy's overpay is the next guy's great bargain. The toothpaste is already out of the tube. Cartagena has already headed the way of Sosua and Costa Rica and Panama City. The dominos are falling one after the other. Only salvation is people that know how to get in the local scene or stay out of the foreign tourist scene.
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The problem being is that one guy's overpay is the next guy's great bargain. The toothpaste is already out of the tube. Cartagena has already headed the way of Sosua and Costa Rica and Panama City. The dominos are falling one after the other. Only salvation is people that know how to get in the local scene or stay out of the foreign tourist scene.Except in Colombia they're going to do something about it. I'm not sure what form that's going to take but it's going to happen. It's already been identified as a problem
Mr Enternational
04-01-23, 18:57
Except in Colombia they're going to do something about it. I'm not sure what form that's going to take but it's going to happen. It's already been identified as a problemName me one place where the chicks have lowered their prices. You may get those guy out of there, but those prices are there to stay.
I am in Cartagena and not feeling like roaming the clock tower of Space Club. What are the current strip club recommendations? A dude here told me that Pley Club is no longer in business and Isis was dead. Is there a better strip club around Cartagena?
In the end the weekend warriors will lose.
Colombia is not DR. They're proud people. Also they're more dangerous people.
The gangs and low lives have made their way into Poblado of medellin and now spreading their wings into cartagena.
They're going to drug more and more unsuspecting tourists. Hell last time I was in Ctg they tried to pickpocket me LOL. With no avail tho.
And you can thank the guys who come and use their country like it's their new playground.
I'm not talking about people who overpay.
I'm talking about the large groups who come in and act like they own the joint. Thinking they're hot shit because they're gringos.
It's been going on the past year. I've seen guys robbed drugged and even killed along with the popular ones that we have all read about.
Can't come into this country and act like hot shots.
Especially when you're not even a hot shot in your own land.
I guess that went right over your head it's got nothing to do with prices....
Name me one place where the chicks have lowered their prices. You may get those guy out of there, but those prices are there to stay.
Mr Enternational
04-02-23, 16:24
I guess that went right over your head it's got nothing to do with prices....It seems what I was saying went right over your head. I took it that you were saying the authorities are getting rid of the riff raff. I was responding that that may well be, but that will do nothing for the prices that have gotten out of hand.
PerkinWarbeck
04-02-23, 17:46
This girl is a $1000 an hour. https://tryst.link/escort/secretvixen.
Guys that pay those rates would think $3000 for a few days is nothing.
These are the agencies I have used.
For customers who send to Colombia from the United States, as of writing, the initial sending limits with Remitly are:
$2,999 in 24 hours.
Western Union: You can send up to USD $7500 to bank accounts in Colombia using our online services or at our agent locations. You can also send up to USD $5000 for cash pickup at a Colombian agent location.
Pangea: You can send up to $6,000 using a debit card. This limit also applies to any receiver. Note: The $6,000 limit is refreshed every 30 days.
I needed to send $5000 to my gal for a deposit on our apartment. I tried high amounts and got hassled and money was frozen ETC. So I then used all three services and transferred $1000 using a combination of all three services, and it was done in 2 days.
You do not need to use cash or use ATM there. I use Remitly and money instantly goes into her checking account.
Giving women this much money is doable. It is probably dumb but it is doable.
And Nypher has given really good info for month / years on Cartagena. I am not sure why you guys are trashing him. He is just repeating what he was told.The tryst link you posted is of an American escort. Yes. Top end escorts get paid great money IN THE UNITED STATES. Not in Colombia.
Those girls did not earn those amounts he quoted. He could be a great guy, but he is obviously exaggerating on this point.
PerkinWarbeck
04-02-23, 17:48
I have nothing to gain from this forum by lying about 3 chicas making $3000 - $3500 in a few days during Carnival. The chicas have nothing to gain from me by lying to me saying they made that much from 1 gringo during carnival. I just don't see the motive why they or I would make up something like that.
All I do is pass on the information as I get it, or as I experience it. If you're experiencing something different, pass it on as well to help the next person that comes along. The whole start of this was me trying to inform others that if they have a favourite girl they want to be with during Carnival that they might want to reach out to her early to make sure she is available as I reached out to my top 3 and all 3 of them were already taken by high paying gringos way before they arrived and one of them even made an advance deposit.
I don't know how we got to this point.
(Duplicate post but I had to fix an important typo).The information you are receiving is incorrect. The girls did not earn that much. These girls lie. Often for no reason at all. It's just who they are. I don't believe anything they say.
The problem being is that one guy's overpay is the next guy's great bargain. The toothpaste is already out of the tube. Cartagena has already headed the way of Sosua and Costa Rica and Panama City. The dominos are falling one after the other. Only salvation is people that know how to get in the local scene or stay out of the foreign tourist scene.Its now working its way to Bangkok and Pattaya and I'm so happy I was already there and had my fun before they got there.
These youtubers have brought in a wave of undesirables who should have never left home and they brought that mentality with them turning humble people into entitled people.
I am in Cartagena ...What are the current strip club recommendations? Didn't see any replies to Expateric.
Summarising the recommendations, as I understand them, after reading most recent 30+ pages on this forum. I am visiting Cartagena from 20 Apr.
Strip Bars:
Recommended: Fase Dos, La Isla, 808 & Gustos.
Not recommended: Space, Dolce, Delirium, Chica Linda Night Club, Flexx (where most foreigners end up).
? LDV & Space.
Streetwalkers, places to meet:
Clocktower.
Hotel las Carretas (see girls walking the triangle).
The Pan Debono bakery (Calle de San Agustin Chiquita and Calle Del Porvenir).
Plaza del Reloj.
Website to find girls:
Mileroticos.
Skodda.
Photoprepagos.
Appreciate any corrections / advice.
Punter00.
It seems what I was saying went right over your head. I took it that you were saying the authorities are getting rid of the riff raff. I was responding that that may well be, but that will do nothing for the prices that have gotten out of hand.300 mil is standard for Gringos living in Cartegena.
200 mil easily available.
Many ask for 10 O US.
The rest are all outliers.
The tryst link you posted is of an American escort. Yes. Top end escorts get paid great money IN THE UNITED STATES. Not in Colombia.
Those girls did not earn those amounts he quoted. He could be a great guy, but he is obviously exaggerating on this point.I don't think your understanding what they are trying to say.
When a person comes from an environment where they are paying a high amount for a single night with a woman its not hard to believe that that individual believes they are getting a bargain by paying the same amount they would spend on 1 night for an entire 24 hours with a girl they like especially if the girl is staying with them for their entire stay for that GFE. That person is not worried about money because they have it to blow. The same way locals looks at gringos who pay $100 an hour for the same girl a local would pay 50 K an hour, everyone pays differently.
These specific girls are not making that much consistently, they have their highs and lows.
The information you are receiving is incorrect. The girls did not earn that much. These girls lie. Often for no reason at all. It's just who they are. I don't believe anything they say.I understand why you would think that. Perhaps you have not encountered the ones you can trust yet or take their word for what they say.
I am in Cartagena and not feeling like roaming the clock tower of Space Club. What are the current strip club recommendations? A dude here told me that Pley Club is no longer in business and Isis was dead. Is there a better strip club around Cartagena?Isis was renamed to Imperio and is just a regular club like Space, had a great night walking around looking for that place with a Chica one night to only realize it was Isis. All the strip clubs are in local spots, think 2 men on a Motocycle type spots. I personally wouldn't go to those areas after dark, but to each their own.
Didn't see any replies to Expateric.
Summarising the recommendations, as I understand them, after reading most recent 30+ pages on this forum. I am visiting Cartagena from 20 Apr.
Strip Bars:
Recommended: Fase Dos, La Isla, 808 & Gustos.
Not recommended: Space, Dolce, Delirium, Chica Linda Night Club, Flexx (where most foreigners end up)..Your information is a little mixed up and I can understand why, jajajaj.
I'm going to attempt to clarify it by copy / paste and add in additional information.
Recommended:
Fase Dos. Medellin, Colombia.
La Isla. Medellin, Colombia.
808 - Pattaya, Thailand.
Gustos. Medellin, Colombia.
Not recommended:
Space. Cartegena, Colombia.
Dolce. Cartegena, Colombia.
Delirium. Cartegena, Colombia.
Chica Linda Night Club. Cartegena, Colombia (way outside the walls in 2 men on a Motocycle territory).
Flexx. Pattaya, Thailand.
LDV & Space. These are Dolce and Space, they are right next to each other.
Streetwalkers, places to meet:
Clocktower. Torre De Reloj, speaking Spanish makes it go faster than standing there in the open using google translate on a phone.
Hotel las Carretas (see girls walking the triangle) - All girls walk by there at a certain point and its better than standing by the clubs.
The Pan Debono bakery (Calle de San Agustin Chiquita and Calle Del Porvenir). - All girls walk by there at a certain point and its better than standing by the clubs.
Plaza del Reloj. I don't know what this is unless its the Clocktower.
Website to find girls:
Mileroticos.
Skodda.
Photoprepagos.
The websites are self-explanatory, I've never found anything I personally like on there due to I like them under 25, no kids, in shape, natural body, little to no tattoos and I just don't have the patience to dig through all those postings where they blur their face or have no pictures of them which is why I prefer Tinder.
Good luck, use what works for you, stay safe!
MongerHunger
04-03-23, 17:39
Your information is a little mixed up and I can understand why, jajajaj.
I'm going to attempt to clarify it by copy / paste and add in additional information.
Recommended:
Fase Dos. Medellin, Colombia.
La Isla. Medellin, Colombia.
808 - Pattaya, Thailand.
Gustos. Medellin, Colombia.
Not recommended:
Space. Cartegena, Colombia.
Dolce. Cartegena, Colombia.
Delirium. Cartegena, Colombia.
Chica Linda Night Club. Cartegena, Colombia (way outside the walls in 2 men on a Motocycle territory).
Flexx. Pattaya, Thailand.
LDV & Space. These are Dolce and Space, they are right next to each other.
Streetwalkers, places to meet:
Clocktower. Torre De Reloj, speaking Spanish makes it go faster than standing there in the open using google translate on a phone.
Hotel las Carretas (see girls walking the triangle) - All girls walk by there at a certain point and its better than standing by the clubs.
The Pan Debono bakery (Calle de San Agustin Chiquita and Calle Del Porvenir). - All girls walk by there at a certain point and its better than standing by the clubs.
Plaza del Reloj. I don't know what this is unless its the Clocktower.
Website to find girls:
Mileroticos.
Skodda.
Photoprepagos.
The websites are self-explanatory, I've never found anything I personally like on there due to I like them under 25, no kids, in shape, natural body, little to no tattoos and I just don't have the patience to dig through all those postings where they blur their face or have no pictures of them which is why I prefer Tinder.
Good luck, use what works for you, stay safe!Why isn't anyone mentioning Angeles Bar Club in Cartagena? Is it still in operation?
Elvis 2008
04-03-23, 20:49
I don't think your understanding what they are trying to say.
These specific girls are not making that much consistently, they have their highs and lows.
I understand why you would think that. Perhaps you have not encountered the ones you can trust yet or take their word for what they say.I guess some guys think if these women got that much scratch that the women will turn their noses up at them unless they have big $. That is the only reason I seem them so dedicated to calling you a liar.
Thing is one in 3 lottery winners is broke in 3 years, and I cannot tell you how many sugar babies I had who said they had had no money but had five figures worth of clothes and shoes in their apartments often with tags still on the clothes. Maybe there is one that has put the money to work like a Goldman Sachs intern but my guess is with the typical Colombian hooker, that money is gone now. She has bought things for her nose, expensive clothes on her back, and / or on her feet with uber expensive shoes. Point is a few women getting huge $ is not going to upset the pricing structure in Cartagena. Not at all. Said women will be broke again soon enough.
PerkinWarbeck
04-03-23, 21:54
300 mil is standard for Gringos living in Cartegena.
200 mil easily available.
Many ask for 10 O US.
The rest are all outliers.300 mil pesos is not standard. 150 is standard for incalls in Pie de La Popa, Campestre, and Bosque. Get off of Tinder.
The girls you see on Tinder are meeting clients for 1/3 of what they will ask of you on there. Many of them publish online. Just contact them from a Colombian cellphone number, and you'll get the real price.
Counting down the days to my trip. Super close. Haven't been in about a year.
How much is a taxi from airport to Laguito? Still under 30 k?
Looking forward to the hunt! Just going to stick to what works. Tinder for day. Walk around and find girls too. My regular will be around whenever I want. And find some girls in the clubs.
I'm not a late night partier so not worried about things getting crazy.
Really looking forward to doing one of those massage places I mentioned during the day. My girl even said she will walk around with me. While I go in she will grab coffe. And then we can have lunch after I finish. She's the best hahaha.
World Wide Wes
04-06-23, 00:22
Good day to everyone and thank you for your continued contributions to this thread. I was wondering if anyone had any good intel on guided culture tours. My trip isn't for another couple months but would like to at least build some rapport prior to arrival so that everything is everything. This has become an annual jaunt for my group and we strictly follow the recommendations of seniors (I. E leaving the matrix at home). Thanks in advance and monger strong.
Can somebody please let me know if the Hilton Nacar Hotel is guest friendly.
I know the difference between a tender girl and one works in a massage parlor. I also know the difference between a pimped out and Venezuelan and someone just in town at the beach in Bogota. You sure they're all kinds of women of all types including theprobably the fruit ladies.
Gringos with the selfie sticks and the YouTube posts of the final coffin here.
Counting down the days to my trip. Super close. Haven't been in about a year.
How much is a taxi from airport to Laguito? Still under 30 k?
Looking forward to the hunt! Just going to stick to what works. Tinder for day. Walk around and find girls too. My regular will be around whenever I want. And find some girls in the clubs.
I'm not a late night partier so not worried about things getting crazy.
Really looking forward to doing one of those massage places I mentioned during the day. My girl even said she will walk around with me. While I go in she will grab coffe. And then we can have lunch after I finish. She's the best hahaha.That's hilarious You think she wants to work If she's going to walk around and you are going to pay someone else to do the work? That's called a wife.
Can somebody please let me know if the Hilton Nacar Hotel is guest friendly.They were for me, but for safety and security make sure your guest has her cedula in her possession. And don't forget to book the room for two, and be extra cautious partaking with a Vennie chica. They may look more appealing in general, but many don't deliver as promised!
Well maybe it sounds exciting to me since I don't have wife and never plan to hahahhaha. This chica I've known for 10 years. Fucking her throughout the trip. Knowing she drops me off before lunch to get a massage and stroked sounds hot to me. Ok baby. See you in about 30 minutes. Hahahaha.
Well maybe it sounds exciting to me since I don't have wife and never plan to hahahhaha. This chica I've known for 10 years. Fucking her throughout the trip. Knowing she drops me off before lunch to get a massage and stroked sounds hot to me. Ok baby. See you in about 30 minutes. Hahahaha.Life is good!
Elvis 2008
04-10-23, 05:46
Good day to everyone and thank you for your continued contributions to this thread. I was wondering if anyone had any good intel on guided culture tours. My trip isn't for another couple months but would like to at least build some rapport prior to arrival so that everything is everything. This has become an annual jaunt for my group and we strictly follow the recommendations of seniors (I. E leaving the matrix at home). Thanks in advance and monger strong.Yeah, use this company and try to get Cesar as your tour guide: https://www.facebook.com/peacetravelcolombia.
https://peacetravel.com.co/?fbclid=IwAR0TxdgnDSyzxquqhli5GKrZmblDb3FCTyDr3u7E_oP_yjpBgUe7oxDw6Sk
Cesar is ridiculously connected. He will get you the best tables at the best restaurants and he is a walking encyclopedia of Cartagena. Outside of the standard spots, some of the group wanted to head to La Dolce Vita and he had a friend to go with them. The friend lined up a member of the group with a girl he knew because that member was not happy with LDV. This guy said the woman was top five of his life.
I can't get my woman to go to Mercardo Bazurto because of the danger and smell, but many in the group went to the market after I was gone. Anthony Bourdain went there, and I wanted to go as well. Anyway, Cesar arranged a guide and the guys who went said the food they had at this market was as good as the high end restaurants.
I was super impressed with this tour company. I had been coming to Cartagena for a year. These guys hired this tour company and hit all the highlights of Cartagena with Cesar and his crew in 5 days. When all was said and done, I think they knew as much about the city as I did.
World Wide Wes
04-10-23, 21:42
Thanks for the feedback. We definitely enjoy our time spent over there every year but wanted to actually get some culture / history in between our daily romps. Sounds like I may have struck upon something to benefit all our needs. Monger safe.
Yeah, use this company and try to get Cesar as your tour guide: https://www.facebook.com/peacetravelcolombia.
https://peacetravel.com.co/?fbclid=IwAR0TxdgnDSyzxquqhli5GKrZmblDb3FCTyDr3u7E_oP_yjpBgUe7oxDw6Sk
Cesar is ridiculously connected. He will get you the best tables at the best restaurants and he is a walking encyclopedia of Cartagena. Outside of the standard spots, some of the group wanted to head to La Dolce Vita and he had a friend to go with them. The friend lined up a member of the group with a girl he knew because that member was not happy with LDV. This guy said the woman was top five of his life.
I can't get my woman to go to Mercardo Bazurto because of the danger and smell, but many in the group went to the market after I was gone. Anthony Bourdain went there, and I wanted to go as well. Anyway, Cesar arranged a guide and the guys who went said the food they had at this market was as good as the high end restaurants.
I was super impressed with this tour company. I had been coming to Cartagena for a year. These guys hired this tour company and hit all the highlights of Cartagena with Cesar and his crew in 5 days. When all was said and done, I think they knew as much about the city as I did.
World Wide Wes
04-11-23, 19:50
Thanks for the feedback. We definitely enjoy our time spent over there every year but wanted to actually get some culture / history in between our daily romps. Sounds like I may have struck upon something to benefit all our needs. I've already contact him and it's refreshing to know there are other services available. Thanks again. Monger safe.
NewbieHelpMe
04-12-23, 20:46
Hey all,
I have gone through a lot of this and tried the search, but haven't been able to find much. Maybe just unfamiliarity with this forum, so sorry for a question that I am sure has been answered.
New to the game but will be in the city for a few days. Want to avoid the risks of picking up random places and bringing them over, as I am just not experienced enough to know how to do it well. Are there any brothels (I believe they are called casas?) or massage places anyone would recommend?
More looking for a place that I can release some stress after a day of travel than a date or GFE!
Thanks.
Hi Nypher,
Thanks for the assist.
Spent hours summarizing the various posts. Really appreciate your corrections. Hate to do all that work for nothing!
Was hoping to find a local contact who could help line up some girls when I arrive. Got 1 recommendation but it seems to be a dead end.
Anyone else travelling 21st to 27th April.
Would be good to find another monger to grab a beer with and compare stories & experience.
Punter00.
Your information is a little mixed up and I can understand why, jajajaj.
I'm going to attempt to clarify it by copy / paste and add in additional information.
Recommended:
Fase Dos. Medellin, Colombia.
La Isla. Medellin, Colombia.
808 - Pattaya, Thailand.
Gustos. Medellin, Colombia.
Not recommended:
Space. Cartegena, Colombia.
Dolce. Cartegena, Colombia.
Delirium. Cartegena, Colombia.
Can anyone recommend any good strip bars, nightclubs to meet girls in Cartagena?
Feedback is all the ones mentioned in previous posts are not recommended: Space, Dolce, Delirium & Chica Linda Night Club.
Can anyone recommend any good strip bars, nightclubs to meet girls in Cartagena?
Feedback is all the ones mentioned in previous posts are not recommended: Space, Dolce, Delirium & Chica Linda Night Club.It doesn't really matter what clubs you go to in Centro, they will all have negatives, the only difference is does that negative relate to you.
For example if you don't like hip hop, gangsa rap or trap music and the crowd it attracts then you may want to avoid clubs that constantly paly that type of music. If you don't like fake asses, fake tits, lips that look like a bee stung them then you would want to avoid clubs that those chica gather in concentration.
Space. Middle ground of everything in music and women. They play all kinds of music and attract all kinds of girls, I've met most of my best girls in here, BUT that was before COVID.
Dolce. You may have issues getting in unless you get bottle service, most girls are plastic, most girls will overcharge by starting off at 800 K.
Delirium. Hiphop, trap music, gangsta rap. Way too much hookah for such a little space, way too much Pop Smoke music, girls are more hood looking so lots of tattoos, excessive fake hair, 2 inch long fake nails.
VOSP. A bigger Delirium.
Imperio. Similar to Space.
Clock Town Pub. Careful, there are Trans mixed in with the women here. If they look cuter than the others around them, then its a man.
Optional places if you have a Chica with you.
Bronx Afro House. Lots of steps, usually empty and not really a place working chicas go to.
Atlanta Hookah Bar. Not really a place to meet chicas but a place to go if you have a chica with you.
Oasis Rooftop. Not really a place to meet chicas but a place to go if you have a chica with you. Usually empty so you will have the whole place to yourself and can watch the search lights in the sky.
Mirador. Not really a place to meet chicas but a place to go if you have a chica with you. Chances are you will see a gringo with a chica you been with earlier.
El Portal. Not really a place to meet chicas but a place to go if you have a chica with you. Music leans more towards Hip hop. Most girls from Delirium and VSOP will end up here with gringos.
Monkey Bar. Completely ignore this place unless you want to encounter the same type of women you left home to get away from because there are no local girls in there.
Alquimico. Another place you can ignore. Its here for tourists and if you happen to see a working girl in there, she is with a gringo.
UsaInEurope
04-15-23, 18:37
Hi! Excited to make my way across Colombia for 2 weeks beginning today! I am a big contributor (see Asia, Rio, Santiago, Tijuana, etc.) when I travel and this time come with questions first after RTTF. Reports coming once I experience them.
I think Rzrfl69 will be in town -- let's see if we can't find a massage place haha. Or at least a non-drugged beer?
PerkinWarbeck -- could you please opine on the BocaG incalls? I'm very interested in avoiding the late night club scene.
OnFireBoy -- would love to meet up and / or go through you for some more trustworthy chicas.
Thanks to all in advance -- please let me know what I can do for you as well!
UsaInEurope
04-19-23, 18:40
This board seems dead, cold and unresponsive. Very strange for so much action on the ground. So I'll respond in kind and give up a little bit instead of everything.
Clock square got going well before 8 pm and it's easy and safe to walk up to as many girls as you want and negotiate for exactly what you want. Hang out on the street. No problem. Grab a by the hour hotel less than 2 blocks away and fuck her like crazy. 300 mil to the girl and 100 mil to the hotel. Easy. Too expensive and I'm driving the price up? Most girls quoted 500 mil and up and I spent an hour getting exactly the body I wanted with the flirty connection I wanted and the age I wanted. If you're a cheapskate you can get a working P for less but wtf do I care about an extra 100 mil.
Didn't find any action around hollywood beach.
Tinder is your friend and I'll leave it at that.
Cart is more touristy city so you have higher prices in general but Cart has the beach so you can see chicas in their bikinis which is good because sexy clothes can be deceiving.
Average price street girl at the clock should be 200 p, many girls say 250 p but they will take 200 p. Although I had some amazing service with girls for only 150 p. Even the higher end call girls will say 500 p but can be talked down to 300 p.
Many speak no english at all so be ready with google translate to negotiate.
Peak time around the clock tower is 11 pm, that's when the most girls are out and you have the best selection.
Lastly NEVER EXCHANGE MONEY ON THE STREET! There are street guys saying they will exchange for higher rates but they have old or fake pesos, always go to a storefront or withdraw from an ATM.
It doesn't really matter what clubs you go to in Centro, they will all have negatives, the only difference is does that negative relate to you.Thanks for the insight & detail Nypher.
Just arrived in Cartagena today.
Spending 2 days at Manzanillo beach, then heading into the centre.
Will report back!
Hi! Excited to make my way across Colombia for 2 weeks beginning today!Hey USAinEurope, PM me if you want to meet up in Cartagena. Just arrived today, first time in Columbia but have travelled quite a bit in South & Central America (and mongered around the word).
Staying in Manzanillo beach for 2 nights, then in the old city 22 to 27 Apr.
Hey USAinEurope, PM me if you want to meet up in Cartagena. Just arrived today, first time in Columbia but have travelled quite a bit in South & Central America (and mongered around the word).
Staying in Manzanillo beach for 2 nights, then in the old city 22 to 27 Apr.Can't message you but I'll be in Cartagena this upcoming week also! Will be hanging out around hollywood beach and old city.
Will be flying in CTG on the 25th, any boots on the ground want a wingman. It'll be my first time! PM me.
Hi Evx69,
My post had a place to meet & date / time.
These were removed from my post.
Guessing moderator doesn't want you to arrange any meets until you buy membership.
Can't message you but I'll be in Cartagena this upcoming week also! Will be hanging out around hollywood beach and old city.
Sent PM with contact details.
See you on 25th.
I sm in CTG this afternoon & leave on 27th.
Will be flying in CTG on the 25th, any boots on the ground want a wingman. It'll be my first time! PM me.
Hi Evx69,
My post had a place to meet & date / time.
These were removed from my post.
Guessing moderator doesn't want you to arrange any meets until you buy membership.That's what it looks like, and I'm not mad at it. I was at Hollywood beach today and got a few numbers. A lot more crowded than last year but not really many lookers. I'm sure we'll somehow run into each other, this city is very very small. If you see a solo guy by himself just say Hi.
First night in Cartagena old town.
Went to clock tower, as suggested. Walked around the circuit by myself several times & never felt unsafe. Lots of police around flashing lights and driving about so everyone know they ate present but didn't see them hassling anybody.
Few girls when I arrived at 21:00. By 22:00 30+ Girls congregated around clock tower entrance. Sitting on benches or standing about.
First girl I spoke to was a bit older but very petite, engaging & enthusiastic. Asked to bring her friend & I said no.
She wanted 300 million. I was happy with that price but acted like it was a lot of money for me. Told her she would have to earn it.
She agreed BBBJ & sex with condom and took me to a short time hotel (coincidently close to my hotel).
Great energy, laughing and joking together. We stripped and I complimented her body, which she seemed to genuinely appreciate. She started BBBJ without prompting. No complaints when I wanted sex again and again. She gave a very convincing performance of being into it herself. Sex was amazing. I came twice, unusual for me.
Paid her 400 million, as service was so much better than average and far, far better than most any escort in London.
We went for a beer and a chat. Ended up dancing at a salsa bar and getting aroused again. Took her back to the short-time Hotel and fucked her several more times.
Great service. No complaining about getting sore, BBBJ or asking for more money. Happy to have sex as many times as I like, in any position.
Out of hundreds of escorts in dozens of countries, definitely in my top 10. Going to see her again tonight.
Cesar provides a great walking tour. He does not have any info about escorts.
Told him how I got his details. He shared a WhatsApp message he got from someone asking him about meeting escorts.
He was very worried the police would think he was involved in this.
Promised I would post this message for him advising that he can't help or give any advice about getting girls.
Yeah, use this company and try to get Cesar as your tour guide: peacetravelcolombia
Elvis 2008
04-23-23, 20:30
Cesar provides a great walking tour. He does not have any info about escorts.
Told him how I got his details. He shared a WhatsApp message he got from someone asking him about meeting escorts.
He was very worried the police would think he was involved in this.
Promised I would post this message for him advising that he can't help or give any advice about getting girls.He is not involved with escorts, and I cannot believe anyone would have been stupid enough to think he is. I help out guys to have a good time and this is the thanks I get? Fuck you to whomever texted him that.
Prezrol3080
04-23-23, 22:33
Hello all, I have mongered in Morocco and Germany extensively but just begun going to Cartagena three years ago. I like CTG the most because you can combine mongering with great weather, typical beach vibes, affordability, and a nice old city for some "in-between girls" diversions. As others have pointed out, there are lots of clubs to find the WGs at night, and Tinder and SA for daytime action. The first time I went I thought I was being smart by lining up talent before I got there and got a sense of the lay of the land. Bad idea! That just opened me up to the girls who are savvy enough to prey on gringos like myself who didn't know the local prices and how easy it is to get girls there, and try to charge rates just under what you would pay for a SA girl in the states. They also tend to have shit attitudes, especially Melodia 1234 from SA. Stay away!
Anyway I'm going back 24-31 May if anyone else wants to join me at some point, DM me.
Out of hundreds of escorts in dozens of countries, definitely in my top 10. Going to see her again tonight.Looks like you found a keeper, I would suggest to get her Instagram because her number will change if her phone is lost or stolen. Also try to get 2 more good ones as backups as these girls constantly disappear.
Looks like you found a keeper, I would suggest to get her Instagram because her number will change if her phone is lost or stolen. Also try to get 2 more good ones as backups as these girls constantly disappear.Most definitely, pm me if you want to meet up. I get in April 25th.
So first time to Medellin a few months ago. I'm playing on spending a few days and flying into Cartagena this time before Medellin. So any info people can give me I will take. Looking to find an Airbnb now that is guest friendly. I'm looking to do a dive for a day. Any particular recommendations I will also take. What's the beach or nicest beach to lounge at? Good restaurants? I see people talking about clubs. I don't speak much Spanish so that's always going to be some issues by itself even though I studying Spanish a little bit each day. Can one use Uber leaving the airport? Medellin you had to use a taxi when leaving the airport. Thanks in advance If anyone has any good contacts let me know also of good women. I have my account set up on facebook and have friended many woman last visit but guys came thru with contacts prior to going and had some good results.
I assume you meant 300 THOUSAND not 300 Million. I understand how it can be confusing. The currency is printed with the denomination followed by "mil". "Mil" is Latin for Thousand (roughly). In measurement 1 mil is one-thousandth of an inch.
First night in Cartagena old town.
Went to clock tower, as suggested. Walked around the circuit by myself several times & never felt unsafe. Lots of police around flashing lights and driving about so everyone know they ate present but didn't see them hassling anybody.
Few girls when I arrived at 21:00. By 22:00 30+ Girls congregated around clock tower entrance. Sitting on benches or standing about.
First girl I spoke to was a bit older but very petite, engaging & enthusiastic. Asked to bring her friend & I said no.
She wanted 300 million. I was happy with that price but acted like it was a lot of money for me. Told her she would have to earn it.
She agreed BBBJ & sex with condom and took me to a short time hotel (coincidently close to my hotel).
Great energy, laughing and joking together. We stripped and I complimented her body, which she seemed to genuinely appreciate. She started BBBJ without prompting. No complaints when I wanted sex again and again. She gave a very convincing performance of being into it herself. Sex was amazing. I came twice, unusual for me.
Paid her 400 million, as service was so much better than average and far, far better than most any escort in London.
We went for a beer and a chat. Ended up dancing at a salsa bar and getting aroused again. Took her back to the short-time Hotel and fucked her several more times.
Great service. No complaining about getting sore, BBBJ or asking for more money. Happy to have sex as many times as I like, in any position.
Out of hundreds of escorts in dozens of countries, definitely in my top 10. Going to see her again tonight.
So first time to Medellin a few months ago. I'm playing on spending a few days and flying into Cartagena this time before Medellin. So any info people can give me I will take. Looking to find an Airbnb now that is guest friendly. I'm looking to do a dive for a day. Any particular recommendations I will also take. What's the beach or nicest beach to lounge at? Good restaurants? I see people talking about clubs. I don't speak much Spanish so that's always going to be some issues by itself even though I studying Spanish a little bit each day. Can one use Uber leaving the airport? Medellin you had to use a taxi when leaving the airport. Thanks in advance If anyone has any good contacts let me know also of good women. I have my account set up on facebook and have friended many woman last visit but guys came thru with contacts prior to going and had some good results.You doing way too much.
Facebook will not get you much in Cartegena. Tinder will get you allot.
Uber works from the airport.
You don't need contacts for women, just go to the usual gringo spot. Daytime hollywood beach. Night time clock tower, space, delirium, dolce, Imperio, etc.
Restaurants everywhere, try them all but all I can say is the fish is best a the beach.
ArmnHammer69
04-27-23, 18:19
Started my night at clock tower pub to watch some sports. Dolce vita was dead until 10:30. At 1 am I decided to grab a taxi and do a stripclub tour. El paraiso was first got inside maybe 25 girls a bus was just leaving the club. They tried to make me buy 10 Coronas to enter so I left. One cute girl was waiting for me to stay but they pissed me off. Next up pley club. Bought a corona about 20 girls in the club two were cute but wouldn't come introduce themselves. Dolce was packed all night until 3 am ish. Space was ok two hot girls in there. Delirium was not my scene I was probably the only white gringo in the club. More of a hip hop scene.
Nite_Runner
04-27-23, 19:00
First night in Cartagena old town.
Went to clock tower, as suggested. Walked around the circuit by myself several times & never felt unsafe. Lots of police around flashing lights and driving about so everyone know they ate present but didn't see them hassling anybody.
Few girls when I arrived at 21:00. By 22:00 30+ Girls congregated around clock tower entrance. Sitting on benches or standing about.
First girl I spoke to was a bit older but very petite, engaging & enthusiastic. Asked to bring her friend & I said no.
She wanted 300 million. I was happy with that price but acted like it was a lot of money for me. Told her she would have to earn it.
She agreed BBBJ & sex with condom and took me to a short time hotel (coincidently close to my hotel).
Great energy, laughing and joking together. We stripped and I complimented her body, which she seemed to genuinely appreciate. She started BBBJ without prompting. No complaints when I wanted sex again and again. She gave a very convincing performance of being into it herself. Sex was amazing. I came twice, unusual for me.
Paid her 400 million, as service was so much better than average and far, far better than most any escort in London.
We went for a beer and a chat. Ended up dancing at a salsa bar and getting aroused again. Took her back to the short-time Hotel and fucked her several more times.
Great service. No complaining about getting sore, BBBJ or asking for more money. Happy to have sex as many times as I like, in any position.
Out of hundreds of escorts in dozens of countries, definitely in my top 10. Going to see her again tonight.
For clarification. Did you pay the chicka 300,000 pesos? Or 300,000,000 pesos?
N_R.
For clarification. Did you pay the chicka 300,000 pesos? Or 300,000,000 pesos?
N_R.More than likely they paid the lesser amount at 300 K.
No sane person is going to pay 300 million COP but 300 mil or 300 K (thousand), yes that's fair.
Mr Enternational
04-27-23, 23:22
For clarification. Did you pay the chicka 300,000 pesos? Or 300,000,000 pesos?Does that really need to be clarified? You would sincerely believe that he gave a chick $65,000?
Is Cialis available OTC and easy to find at pharmacies in the walled city? Been traveling for a while and am running low.
Is Cialis available OTC and easy to find at pharmacies in the walled city? Been traveling for a while and am running low.Any pharmacy in Cartagena you should get Cialis or Viagra.
AcesOnTheRiver
05-01-23, 05:38
Does that really need to be clarified? You would sincerely believe that he gave a chick $65,000?Lmfaooo- this comment has me dead.
Mr E. I see you frequent both the CTG and RDJ threads hahah- nice.
I just got done posting my trip report about how Rio is hands down > than Colombia, no question- I challenge to find someone who disagrees.
... I challenge to find someone who disagrees.I only agree with you for short trip for few weeks for newbies. You are barely scratching the surface of either places based on what I read.
If you don't think so, read his reports to see if you can compare your trip with his. I am just picking the latest report.
Today is my last day. So going to make it count. Have dates lined up with fb girl #1, 2, and 3 or 4 (I forget)...
AcesOnTheRiver
05-02-23, 04:45
I only agree with you for short trip for few weeks for newbies. You are barely scratching the surface of either places based on what I read.
If you don't think so, read his reports to see if you can compare your trip with his. I am just picking the latest report.
Yea well you got me, basically spot on LOL. I've done about 8 CTG/MDE trips and one trip to RIO, always 5 nights. I’m always on a mission though cuz the 5 night restriction- no time for FB or SA or non pros) That is for sure newb stats on this forum. But i’m so glad i finally tried Rio over Ctg- I had a way greater experience in my 5 nights there..
After a lot of research and travel advice, I decided to graduate from mongering in the DR and head down to CTG for 4 nights. I had more than enough to keep me occupied with Tinder Gold throughout the whole trip just in case I got lonely. Once I arrived, I decided to meet up with fellow ISG member Punter00 for a nice tour of the centro area since he had been there a few days prior as you see from his report. Thank god for the subscription. Clock tower is pretty decent even on the weekdays as we met up the first two nights for beers and watching the ladies stroll in. I was a bit nervous picking up girls as they are not in your face like Sosua, so I fell back on my Tinder ladies on Whatapp since I had already negotiated everything. I don't know if it was just the weekday or the kind of girls, but I was getting GFE action all week for 200-250 mil COP. I prefer the Afro girls and they were all from Venezuela. Since this was really an intel trip for a future trip for my scared buddies. I can now verify and confidently say that Cartagena is the real deal, and I felt very safe with very little Spanish and of course street smarts. Thank you Punter00 for your patience and hospitality!
Have visited Medellin, Bogota, and Cali but never been to Cartagena for whatever reason.
Understand there is beach and dynamics are different from other cities but is it worth visiting now?
From reading few reports, there is some action from clock tower which I thought city banned the working girls after few American guys making it rain and making some videos of it.
Any feedback will be appreciated.
Have visited Medellin, Bogota, and Cali but never been to Cartagena for whatever reason.
Understand there is beach and dynamics are different from other cities but is it worth visiting now?
From reading few reports, there is some action from clock tower which I thought city banned the working girls after few American guys making it rain and making some videos of it.
Any feedback will be appreciated.Clock tower is in full effect and the beaches, just GOOO!
LOL.
I gave her a bit less than 80 USD. 300 "whatever number of" pesos.
The whole mil versus million versus thousand was doing my head in!
Does that really need to be clarified? You would sincerely believe that he gave a chick $65,000?
Great to meet up in CTG Jdf972!
Just arrived back in the UK, after a few days with the in-laws in USA & been telling some of my UK mates about hanging with you at the clock tower.
Hope to meet up again someday!
After a lot of research and travel advice, I decided to graduate from mongering in the DR and head down to CTG for 4 nights. I had more than enough to keep me occupied with Tinder Gold throughout the whole trip just in case I got lonely. Once I arrived, I decided to meet up with fellow ISG member Punter00 for a nice tour of the centro area since he had been there a few days prior as you see from his report. Thank god for the subscription. Clock tower is pretty decent even on the weekdays as we met up the first two nights for beers and watching the ladies stroll in. I was a bit nervous picking up girls as they are not in your face like Sosua, so I fell back on my Tinder ladies on Whatapp since I had already negotiated everything. I don't know if it was just the weekday or the kind of girls, but I was getting GFE action all week for 200-250 mil COP. I prefer the Afro girls and they were all from Venezuela. Since this was really an intel trip for a future trip for my scared buddies. I can now verify and confidently say that Cartagena is the real deal, and I felt very safe with very little Spanish and of course street smarts. Thank you Punter00 for your patience and hospitality!
Date: 23 Apr, 2023.
Location: Somewhere in Cartagena.
Had such a great experience with the girl I met at the clock tower, I decided to see her again the next night.
I refused to take her friend with us the night we met. In my experience escorts 3-somes seldom meet expectations. Hard work to control the situation and keep the girls focused on what matters. My meat & 2 veg. More challenging when I don't speak the local lingo. Which I usually don't.
Anyway, told my girl to get her friend & some weed around to her place and we would have a 3-some.
My taxi driver started to act nervous as we got close to her place, saying it wasn't a great area and was I sure I wanted to get out there. When I called her for directions, she put some guy on to the chat to the taxi driver. Started seeming a bit dodgy but thought WTF, it's an adventure. Didn't have anything very valuable with me, other than my phone and kidneys.
Finally found her place and she brought me up to the room. Her friend joined after a while & we shared a joint, danced and stripped off. Went to the bedroom and my girl was making sure her friend put in the effort. Smoked more than intended and took a while to get into performance condition.
Banged her friend for a while but was so stoned that I am not certain if I really came or not. Took a little break and my girl got me hard again.
As I started screwing my girl, her friend crawled onto my back and acting strange. I remember her whispering death threats in my ear, saying things like "your going to die here tonight' and 'you should have never come here'. I am pretty sure it was all weed-induced paranoia but the girl was definitely acting weird.
Somehow managed to stay focused on the sex, ignoring the death threats (hallucinations? And came. So told the girls I was heading home and called a cab. While we were waiting the friend started telling me she was a dog and I should take her home as a pet. I am pretty sure her meaning was somewhat garbled by the pot-paranoia and our broken English / Spanish attempt to speak.
Paranoia was running full steam by this point, so waited for the Uber driver to get close to the building before leaving my girls' apartment. When we got the front door, a steel gate had been padlocked in place and the girls didn't have the key. The friend started banging on someone's door near the entrance and I was convinced she was getting her pimp to come out and fulfill her sexy death threats. In reality, it was the landlady who finally gave us the key for the padlock.
All in all, quite an adventure. Even if 80% of it was all in my head.
I am not that interested in accumulating possessions or impressing people. My goal is to fill my memory with experiences, life in the gutter or in fast lane. But not in a fucking Holiday Inn. Anything that isn't average and forgettable is a gem for me, especially if I don't get seriously hurt along the way.
This is definitely a great memory for my "wank bank". Also an interesting little event to relive in my deathbed "life review & flashback" - when my life flashes before my eyes.
Does anything else in life matter?
Have visited Medellin, Bogota, and Cali but never been to Cartagena for whatever reason.
Understand there is beach and dynamics are different from other cities but is it worth visiting now?
From reading few reports, there is some action from clock tower which I thought city banned the working girls after few American guys making it rain and making some videos of it.
Any feedback will be appreciated.Most of the youtube clowns shifted in Brazil and Thailand (Pattaya) so the throwing money in the air is not as frequent. The ClockTower was only cleared out during the Christmas holiday, all the girls are back. Well not all of them as many left. But you would be surprised of how many of them (mostly Venezuelans) I see posting selfies on Instagram and Whatsapp status in Houston, Atlanta, Tampa and New York City over the last 4 months.
The beach is a bit of a mixed bag due to the construction I saw when I was there in February but if you want a Sosua experience x10 in everything the Hollywood beach is the place to go and I do literately mean x10 in everything including the annoying mongers, vendors, and massage ladies. If you want a quieter beach then it will be a day trip to one of the islands with clearer water about $100 a person.
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Yeah short trip trying to squeeze it all in. On any trip I'm pretty busy since I go to other countries to do stuff, adventures and see the culture. So at times a lot going on, but like Medellin I had to put in work prior to reap some benefits, which many vets recommend. Since there is my first time here I wanted info to help me out.
You doing way too much.
Facebook will not get you much in Cartegena. Tinder will get you allot.
Uber works from the airport.
You don't need contacts for women, just go to the usual gringo spot. Daytime hollywood beach. Night time clock tower, space, delirium, dolce, Imperio, etc.
Restaurants everywhere, try them all but all I can say is the fish is best a the beach.
......including the annoying mongers....What made the mongers annoying?
Mr Enternational
05-06-23, 19:47
If you want a quieter beach then it will be a day trip to one of the islands with clearer water about $100 a person.A chick that I mess with family member owns a company so she sent me the pdf of the brochure. I broke it down to screenshots to put here. The most expensive package is 170,000 pesos or $37. $100 seems to be the super ripoff tourist price.
A chick that I mess with family member owns a company so she sent me the pdf of the brochure. I broke it down to screenshots to put here. The most expensive package is 170,000 pesos or $37. $100 seems to be the super ripoff tourist price.You're right, looking back at the credit card transaction it was 290,000 pesos for 2 tickets.
I forgot to add details of how it came to that number but below is what I can remember from the last island.
I went to Luxury VIP, it was about 290 K COP per person for the tickets, standard lunch and unlimited basic drinks included. But of course, we started ordering drinks that were not part of the all-inclusive package, I was a little extra hungry so I had 2 meals jajaja, the lobster guy came by with the lobsters, then came the Aquarium hustle where I wanted to see this dolphin show I always hear about but never went so we had to pay to get into the aquarium, then pay separately to swim with the dolphins.
Due to me adding extras it came out to about $100 per person.
I forgot to clarify that, I should have clarified that.
What made the mongers annoying?The usual, extra loud, recording everything for youtube, live streaming, and the feeding the pelican's effect.
Its like walking on Playa Sosua by that bar that have all the green Presidente umbrellas during a holiday weekend like Memorial Day.
The usual, extra loud, recording everything for youtube, live streaming, and the feeding the pelican's effect.
Its like walking on Playa Sosua by that bar that have all the green Presidente umbrellas during a holiday weekend like Memorial Day.Are you sure they were mongers? US gringos are like that everywhere in the world you go. In Sosua they're like 96% mongers. I would hate to think its the same at Hollywood beach, Cartagena.
RamDavidson84
05-07-23, 18:54
Date: 23 Apr, 2023.
Location: Somewhere in Cartagena.
Had such a great experience with the girl I met at the clock tower, I decided to see her again the next night.
I refused to take her friend with us the night we met. In my experience escorts 3-somes seldom meet expectations. Hard work to control the situation and keep the girls focused on what matters. My meat & 2 veg. More challenging when I don't speak the local lingo. Which I usually don't.
Anyway, told my girl to get her friend & some weed around to her place and we would have a 3-some.
My taxi driver started to act nervous as we got close to her place, saying it wasn't a great area and was I sure I wanted to get out there. When I called her for directions, she put some guy on to the chat to the taxi driver. Started seeming a bit dodgy but thought WTF, it's an adventure. Didn't have anything very valuable with me, other than my phone and kidneys.
Finally found her place and she brought me up to the room. Her friend joined after a while & we shared a joint, danced and stripped off. Went to the bedroom and my girl was making sure her friend put in the effort. Smoked more than intended and took a while to get into performance condition.
Banged her friend for a while but was so stoned that I am not certain if I really came or not. Took a little break and my girl got me hard again.
As I started screwing my girl, her friend crawled onto my back and acting strange. I remember her whispering death threats in my ear, saying things like "your going to die here tonight' and 'you should have never come here'. I am pretty sure it was all weed-induced paranoia but the girl was definitely acting weird.
Somehow managed to stay focused on the sex, ignoring the death threats (hallucinations? And came. So told the girls I was heading home and called a cab. While we were waiting the friend started telling me she was a dog and I should take her home as a pet. I am pretty sure her meaning was somewhat garbled by the pot-paranoia and our broken English / Spanish attempt to speak.
Paranoia was running full steam by this point, so waited for the Uber driver to get close to the building before leaving my girls' apartment. When we got the front door, a steel gate had been padlocked in place and the girls didn't have the key. The friend started banging on someone's door near the entrance and I was convinced she was getting her pimp to come out and fulfill her sexy death threats. In reality, it was the landlady who finally gave us the key for the padlock.
All in all, quite an adventure. Even if 80% of it was all in my head.
I am not that interested in accumulating possessions or impressing people. My goal is to fill my memory with experiences, life in the gutter or in fast lane. But not in a fucking Holiday Inn. Anything that isn't average and forgettable is a gem for me, especially if I don't get seriously hurt along the way.
This is definitely a great memory for my "wank bank". Also an interesting little event to relive in my deathbed "life review & flashback" - when my life flashes before my eyes.
Does anything else in life matter?Cool story bro, glad you made it out safe. One thing I have learned from my travels, if a local tells you a place is not safe, that means 100% it isn't and you should not take your chances. At that point, the risk to reward is not worth it. Some guys who can blend in like a local and speak fluent Spanish may be able to push the limits more, but if you are an obvious gringo, its not worth the risk for a slightly cooler memory.
Your logic is sound in regard to building lasting memories and enjoying life. Part of that same logic is also preserving your health. Those hallucinations are your mind telling you to chill out. You are actually damaging your brain and your brain is telling you enough. Excessive amounts of coke, booze, weed, pills, or other drugs eventually do this. My advice would be to chill out on the drugs for awhile and when you go back to them ease your way in and make sure the hallucinations cease. I have seen more than a few guys really fuck them selves up and it usually starts with them being really fucked up when they are really not even doing a lot of drugs.
Are you sure they were mongers? US gringos are like that everywhere in the world you go. In Sosua they're like 96% mongers. I would hate to think its the same at Hollywood beach, Cartagena.I know a monger when I see one LOL.
Some of them I even recognize by face because I saw them in Sosua or they are part of a WhatsApp chat group I'm in or a YouTuber.
The majority of these individuals only stick to certain places so they become familia the others are just walking clones. It's easy to pick them out. Jordan's or Yeezes on their feet, wearing PhatFarm or Fubu, walking around in a group, and allot of them are over 250 lb.
One thing I have not seen so far at Playa Hollywood that I used to see in Playa Sosua is the 300 lb monger who's so fat they have to stack 2 plastic chairs together to support their weight. I guess the chairs must be stronger in Cartagena LOL.
SuperfluousBBC
05-09-23, 00:58
Hello all, I have mongered in Morocco and Germany extensively but just begun going to Cartagena three years ago. I like CTG the most because you can combine mongering with great weather, typical beach vibes, affordability, and a nice old city for some "in-between girls" diversions. As others have pointed out, there are lots of clubs to find the WGs at night, and Tinder and SA for daytime action. The first time I went I thought I was being smart by lining up talent before I got there and got a sense of the lay of the land. Bad idea! That just opened me up to the girls who are savvy enough to prey on gringos like myself who didn't know the local prices and how easy it is to get girls there, and try to charge rates just under what you would pay for a SA girl in the states. They also tend to have shit attitudes, especially Melodia 1234 from SA. Stay away!
Anyway I'm going back 24-31 May if anyone else wants to join me at some point, DM me.I'll be out there at this time. I can't PM you. PM me.
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..... they are part of a WhatsApp chat group I'm in .....So you know these mongers personally. You're one of them. Great that you are better behaved. I have always thought that for gringos who monger in packs it is more about the drinking, partying and flaunting than about having sex.
So you know these mongers personally. You're one of them. Great that you are better behaved. I have always thought that for gringos who monger in packs it is more about the drinking, partying and flaunting than about having sex.I wouldn't say I know them personally. They are more like familiar faces. Similar to if someone takes the same bus to work every day at the same time then more than likely it will be the same bus driver and their face becomes familiar along with other passengers that usually take that same bus. Familiar strangers, we know what each other look like we just don't interact, the most interaction if our eyes meet, maybe a head nod to say "sup" without any words LOL.
When I first started I used to talk to all the mongers, and then after a while I learned not to invite strangers into my life as I never know what they can pull me into especially when overseas where I don't have much knowledge of the local laws or can communicate effectively in the local language.
Many of us go there and behave but usually what happens is that they take the worst examples of us and use that as a baseline to apply it to all of us until we can prove differently which is an uphill battle as more people leave the hood, fly over seas and uphold the negative views.
I wouldn't say I know them personally. They are more like familiar faces. Similar to if someone takes the same bus to work every day at the same time then more than likely it will be the same bus driver and their face becomes familiar along with other passengers that usually take that same bus. Familiar strangers, we know what each other look like we just don't interact, the most interaction if our eyes meet, maybe a head nod to say "sup" without any words LOL.
When I first started I used to talk to all the mongers, and then after a while I learned not to invite strangers into my life as I never know what they can pull me into especially when overseas where I don't have much knowledge of the local laws or can communicate effectively in the local language.
Many of us go there and behave but usually what happens is that they take the worst examples of us and use that as a baseline to apply it to all of us until we can prove differently which is an uphill battle as more people leave the hood, fly over seas and uphold the negative views.The worst part of the monger / tourist / make it rain crowd is that the locals tend to look at gringos as fodder to be ripped off. I hate interacting with people who are just out to rip me off.
The worst part of the monger / tourist / make it rain crowd is that the locals tend to look at gringos as fodder to be ripped off. I hate interacting with people who are just out to rip me off.Speaking of the money throwing crowd, this was from last month in Delirium. I always warn travelers don't go there unless that's the type of behavior they want to be around, they say I'm overreacting, go there, then act surprised of the outcome like I didn't warn them LOL. This fake baller / rapper mentality just makes us all look bad.
https://www.tiktok.com/@blackmantravels/video/7227898886273125678?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=mobile&sender_web_id=6958560912236185094
Speaking of the money throwing crowd, this was from last month in Delirium. I always warn travelers don't go there unless that's the type of behavior they want to be around, they say I'm overreacting, go there, then act surprised of the outcome like I didn't warn them LOL. This fake baller / rapper mentality just makes us all look bad.
https://www.tiktok.com/@blackmantravels/video/7227898886273125678?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=mobile&sender_web_id=6958560912236185094What does an unemployed, impoverished Colombian dude think when he sees an American throwing money in the air and Colombian women scampering to grab it?
That type of behavior in Colombia will attract attention from the wrong people -.
TravelnEurope
05-14-23, 06:21
Reading through some of the recent post on this forum and sounds like Tinder is a popular way to meet working girls. I have read elsewhere some stories of meeting with girls on Tinder not going well in terms of safety. Is there anything you do to screen the girls before hand? Do you invite them to your room, meet in a public area, or just find short time location and not let them know where you are staying? Just curious, reading this forum you do not hear of many people having a bad time. A couple other places I have read, they have had some bad times.
This is true my friend. It has made me very reluctant to return. It's become a frenzy to remove you from you money.
I wouldn't say I know them personally. They are more like familiar faces. Similar to if someone takes the same bus to work every day at the same time then more than likely it will be the same bus driver and their face becomes familiar along with other passengers that usually take that same bus. Familiar strangers, we know what each other look like we just don't interact, the most interaction if our eyes meet, maybe a head nod to say "sup" without any words LOL.
When I first started I used to talk to all the mongers, and then after a while I learned not to invite strangers into my life as I never know what they can pull me into especially when overseas where I don't have much knowledge of the local laws or can communicate effectively in the local language.
Many of us go there and behave but usually what happens is that they take the worst examples of us and use that as a baseline to apply it to all of us until we can prove differently which is an uphill battle as more people leave the hood, fly over seas and uphold the negative views.
Reading through some of the recent post on this forum and sounds like Tinder is a popular way to meet working girls. I have read elsewhere some stories of meeting with girls on Tinder not going well in terms of safety. Is there anything you do to screen the girls before hand? Do you invite them to your room, meet in a public area, or just find short time location and not let them know where you are staying? Just curious, reading this forum you do not hear of many people having a bad time. A couple other places I have read, they have had some bad times.It's dangerous and a good place to find women at the same time. I personally cold approach (semi girls) 80 percent of the time, works well for me and the other 20 percent through facebook.
I'm not much of a tinder guy for obvious reason.
I wanted to post some dining options in MDE I experienced this past trip.
I went to the following.
OCI. MDE.
Carmen.
Colossal.
I cannot say enough about the above three and Colossal, up in the mountains, has one of the best views of Medellin, not cheap but relatively inexpensive by US standards, food at all three places was spectacular. I also went to a few local restaurants in Laureles, recommended by a local friend.
Here are three more I didn't get to.
Mamasita Medallo.
Alambique.
Herbário.
I plan to visit them next time.
TravelnEurope
05-16-23, 05:58
It's dangerous and a good place to find women at the same time. I personally cold approach (semi girls) 80 percent of the time, works well for me and the other 20 percent through facebook.
I'm not much of a tinder guy for obvious reason.Sorry, what's the obvious reason?
Can only speak for myself but Tinder is a scam as far as I am concerned. I rarely use it in Thailand because there are so many time wasters and scammers and have only subscribed once for a month to see if that would improve my experience. It did not. It's also in my phone for my location in US and there are tons of Chinese girls, many from Hong Kong who will ultimately try to sell you investments scams, crypto etc. Now that I am back in US, there also seem to be an increase in Russian or Ukrainian girls with the same BS. It's also highly probable they are not even women, just guys looking to rope you in and fish for personal info. They stole the pics from the internet and post them and prey on lonely guys. Many times they want your WhatsApp or Line contact to move the convo over there. Don't give it to them as they want to stay out of the radius of Tinder to avoid detection on their individual hustles.
On quite a few occasions, it will say that these woman live within a mile or two from me but they always have an excuse why they can't meet in person. That's an immediate tell that they are not legit.
Sorry, what's the obvious reason?
OldSchool318
05-16-23, 22:37
Can only speak for myself but Tinder is a scam as far as I am concerned. I rarely use it in Thailand because there are so many time wasters and scammers and have only subscribed once for a month to see if that would improve my experience. It did not. It's also in my phone for my location in US and there are tons of Chinese girls, many from Hong Kong who will ultimately try to sell you investments scams, crypto etc. Now that I am back in US, there also seem to be an increase in Russian or Ukrainian girls with the same BS. It's also highly probable they are not even women, just guys looking to rope you in and fish for personal info. They stole the pics from the internet and post them and prey on lonely guys. Many times they want your WhatsApp or Line contact to move the convo over there. Don't give it to them as they want to stay out of the radius of Tinder to avoid detection on their individual hustles.
On quite a few occasions, it will say that these woman live within a mile or two from me but they always have an excuse why they can't meet in person. That's an immediate tell that they are not legit.It depends where you live in the world. In the USA it's a scam pretty much like everything else now in that country. Everything you write is pretty spot on.
However in Colombia I thought it was amazing. Girls would hit me up when we match and I had them come over to my apartment for sex and maybe because I did an ok job of vetting or maybe I got lucky but it was like ordering a pizza and I made some repeat hot friends with it.
Prezrol3080
05-18-23, 10:33
Question for the group. What is a fair price to pay a girl to spend the day with me in CTG? Fuck 2-3 times, maybe hit the beach for a while, lunch and drinks etc?
MongerHunger
05-18-23, 16:52
Question for the group. What is a fair price to pay a girl to spend the day with me in CTG? Fuck 2-3 times, maybe hit the beach for a while, lunch and drinks etc?It's really up to your negotiation skills YMMV. Make an offer and decide on services. Discuss everything upfront and make sure it's not a hustle. If you are a good judge of character and not one of these naive men then you can handle it. If not, you can be taken advantage of and receive shifty service and then you're stuck with that Chica. Always pay at the end of the date and never before because if you do you stand the risk of being scammed. Don't show any weakness, be firm, make plenty of eye contact, be decisive and don't be unsure. If you let these chicas direct you and steer you the way they want it won't turn out the way you want.
Sorry, what's the obvious reason?Drugging and kidnappings man! . it's real I'm serious that is why I cold approach to read the woman before I make my move.
Sorry, what's the obvious reason?There have been a large number of guys being drugged by girls they met from Tinder and few were killed, Paul Nguyen foremost among them. Most of it is centered in Medellin. I personally met a girl off of Bumble and after the second date we were at my place and she drugged me. Out for 3 days, nearly killed. The shit is no joke so be careful guys. You can probably find my report. It was posted in the Medellin forum back in mid to late November.
Question for the group. What is a fair price to pay a girl to spend the day with me in CTG? Fuck 2-3 times, maybe hit the beach for a while, lunch and drinks etc?Depends bro on what you like. But I would say 80- 100 USD max. Just negotiate in pesos.
Reading through some of the recent post on this forum and sounds like Tinder is a popular way to meet working girls. I have read elsewhere some stories of meeting with girls on Tinder not going well in terms of safety. Is there anything you do to screen the girls before hand? Do you invite them to your room, meet in a public area, or just find short time location and not let them know where you are staying? Just curious, reading this forum you do not hear of many people having a bad time. A couple other places I have read, they have had some bad times.Tinder in Cartagena was all I needed, just vet them properly and if they patient meet them in a public place. And if you like the vibe then roll out. Make sure you negotiate everything on Tinder whether its short time or GFE. Stay safe!
Question for the group. What is a fair price to pay a girl to spend the day with me in CTG? Fuck 2-3 times, maybe hit the beach for a while, lunch and drinks etc?Answer is. It depends. On your negotiating skills and honesty age / attractiveness. They will quote you more if they deem it a chore. There are girls who will spend the day for free at standard ST price if they like you enough.
Tinder in Cartagena was all I needed, just vet them properly and if they patient meet them in a public place. And if you like the vibe then roll out. Make sure you negotiate everything on Tinder whether its short time or GFE. Stay safe!I have to advise against this.
Do not negotiate anything on Tinder or you can easily be banded if you get reported too many times. Girls will report you if they perceive you as an asshole.
Keep everything clean on Tinder, then take the conversation off to Instagram or Whatsapp and negotiate there. Most girls have their Instagram handle in their profile anyway so just talk to them over there. You don't want to be that guy getting banded and having to end up making a new Facebook or getting a new number just to use Tinder again.
Reading through some of the recent post on this forum and sounds like Tinder is a popular way to meet working girls. I have read elsewhere some stories of meeting with girls on Tinder not going well in terms of safety. Is there anything you do to screen the girls before hand? Do you invite them to your room, meet in a public area, or just find short time location and not let them know where you are staying? Just curious, reading this forum you do not hear of many people having a bad time. A couple other places I have read, they have had some bad times.An idiot is going to be an idiot no matter where that idiot goes, and we've all been idiots some time or another.
Let me explain. With enough common sense anyone can avoid what allot of these individuals experience when going on these Tinder dates. The exact same thing where men getting set up to be drugged and / or robbed is happening right here in major cities in America such as Miami, Chicago, and New York City but the media is too busy pushing mass shootings, LGBT agenda, Trump, and BLM because a man getting robbed on a dating app does not generate enough attention or clicks to generate revenue so its not just a Colombia thing.
The exact same thing you would do in your home country to prioritize your safety should be the exact same thing you do while outside of your country.
Those stories you read of guys having bad Tinder experiences, what exactly did they do that was an obvious major red flag but was overlooked because hot young perky Latina is in front of them?
My #1 rule is before we meet they must send me a picture of their ID (Cedula / Passport / Permiso / Contrasena). If we meet randomly in public like a club, street, park, etc then they must have ID and allow me to take a picture of it if they are going to come with me.
Never let them outnumber you. AKA no extra friends on first meet. If I know the chica physically for while, extra friends are fine, but upon first contact, hell no.
Over the years, of all the dumb things I've done on these trips, I have not been drugged yet or set up to be robbed *knocks on wood*, the worst I've had was the "pay me XXX or I'm calling the cops" scam (once), or I turn my back and they steal money out my pocket (once). Both girls were not from Dating Apps.
Years ago the saying was "don't leave your common sense in Customs". Still holds true to today.
ForroMambo
05-23-23, 09:17
Hello,
My native language is Spanish, sorry for my shitty English.
I had been at CTG in August 2019 and it was quite well, most of the nights I was in Dolce and Space, I was with 8 beautiful Colombians and 8 Venezuelans in 21 days and I only repeated several days with a Venezuelan who was crazy hot. All the girls between 200 K-300 K ST, it was a good holidays.
So after the pandemic I repeated in August 2022 and things got much worse.
The girls at the Dolce were asking $100ST and $250 LT (they work in $). The first night when I started talking to the girls and they asked me for 400-500 K for ST, I said: are you crazy? But no, groups of 10-12 guys from USA came in and took all the girls, so they force us to go into the same game. I like the top 7-9 girls for a 5-6 I don't go to Colombia, and in the end I had to pay between 350-400 k (and bargaining).
But worst of all, the vagabonds have become more aggressive, they chase you all over the city and it's very uncomfortable. One night that I closed the Dolce, I was going out with a girl at 3, it was Monday or Tuesday, there were no police, and from the door of the dolce to a taxi on the corner, there were 5 meter, but around 5 boys surrounded me, they pushed me and they asked me to give them the money, I'm 2 m tall and I weigh almost 100 kg so I got off of them and got into the taxi, and even so they kept getting into the taxi asking me for money, for the girl and for the drugs they had given me, What drug? If I don't know you?? The truth is that it was scare. If you are alone, I do not recommend that you close the disco in the center because you could be a target.
Another negative point is that going to the beach is a pain, one day I went to Tierra Bomba with a friend and we agreed about 300 K (I don't remember exactly) to take us by boat round trip and some hammocks on the beach with a small lunch. Everything was going well but when we talked about going back to 'el laguito', they began to say that the hammocks were not included and I don't know what else, and that we had to pay 200 K more, what? That is not what was agreed, we were arguing, until we already discussed calling the police, and they relented, but a nice day at the beach was ruined.
In the end, everyone has become more aggressive and they try to rob you everywhere. Last week I didn't even go to the beach to avoid problems and at night I would retire as late at 2.
So this year, I'm thinking about another destination, as I like Latinas I'm studying Medellin, Sosua or Rio. I expect better luck.
ForroMambo
05-23-23, 11:44
Hello,
My native language is Spanish, sorry for my shitty English.
I had been in CTG in August 2019 and it was quite well, most of the nights I was in Dolce and Space, I was with 8 beautiful Colombians and 8 Venezuelans in 21 days and I only repeated several days with a Venezuelan who was crazy hot. All the girls between 200 K-300 K ST, it was a good holidays.
So after the pandemic I repeated in August 2022 and things got much worse.
The girls at the Dolce were asking $100ST and $250 LT (they work in $). The first night when I started talking to the girls and they asked me for 400-500 K for ST, I said: are you crazy? But no, groups of 10-12 guys from USA came in and took all the girls, so they force us to go into the same game. I like the top 7-9 girls for a 5-6 I don't go to Colombia, and in the end I had to pay between 350-400 k (and bargaining).
But worst of all, the vagabonds have become more aggressive, they chase you all over the city and it's very uncomfortable. One night that I closed the Dolce, I was going out with a girl at 3, it was Monday or Tuesday, there were no police, and from the door of the dolce to a taxi on the corner, there were 5 meter, but around 5 boys surrounded me, they pushed me and they asked me to give them the money, I'm 2 m tall and I weigh almost 100 kg so I got off of them and got into the taxi, and even so they kept getting into the taxi asking me for money, for the girl and for the drugs they had given me, What drug? If I don't know you?? The truth is that it was scare. If you are alone, I do not recommend that you close the disco in the center because you could be a target.
Another negative point is that going to the beach is a pain, one day I went to Tierra Bomba with a friend and we agreed about 300 K (I don't remember exactly) to take us by boat round trip and some hammocks on the beach with a small lunch. Everything was going well but when we talked about going back to 'el laguito', they began to say that the hammocks were not included and I don't know what else, and that we had to pay 200 K more, what? That is not what was agreed, we were arguing, until we already discussed calling the police, and they relented, but a nice day at the beach was ruined.
In the end, everyone has become more aggressive and they try to rob you everywhere. Last week I didn't even go to the beach to avoid problems and at night I would retire as late at 2.
So this year, I'm thinking about another destination, as I like Latinas I'm studying Medellin, Sosua or Rio. I expect better luck.
Hello,
So this year, I'm thinking about another destination, as I like Latinas I'm studying Medellin, Sosua or Rio. I expect better luck.None of those are any better. You can thank those Passport Boys for that. Inflation, Medellin is out of control with Scope, Sosua girls are talking in dollars and overweight walking like pigeons, and Rio is still a little iffy. I would say just avoid any area that the majority of those YouTubers are going in mass.
Forget Sosua, the same Gringos who are ruining Cartagena destroyed Sosua. It's an escalating cycle, hardened clients, hardened girls, more aggressive vendors and as you experienced even children.
Hello,
My native language is Spanish, sorry for my shitty English.
I had been in CTG in August 2019 and it was quite well, most of the nights I was in Dolce and Space, I was with 8 beautiful Colombians and 8 Venezuelans in 21 days and I only repeated several days with a Venezuelan who was crazy hot. All the girls between 200 K-300 K ST, it was a good holidays.
So after the pandemic I repeated in August 2022 and things got much worse.
The girls at the Dolce were asking $100ST and $250 LT (they work in $). The first night when I started talking to the girls and they asked me for 400-500 K for ST, I said: are you crazy? But no, groups of 10-12 guys from USA came in and took all the girls, so they force us to go into the same game. I like the top 7-9 girls for a 5-6 I don't go to Colombia, and in the end I had to pay between 350-400 k (and bargaining).
But worst of all, the vagabonds have become more aggressive, they chase you all over the city and it's very uncomfortable. One night that I closed the Dolce, I was going out with a girl at 3, it was Monday or Tuesday, there were no police, and from the door of the dolce to a taxi on the corner, there were 5 meter, but around 5 boys surrounded me, they pushed me and they asked me to give them the money, I'm 2 m tall and I weigh almost 100 kg so I got off of them and got into the taxi, and even so they kept getting into the taxi asking me for money, for the girl and for the drugs they had given me, What drug? If I don't know you?? The truth is that it was scare. If you are alone, I do not recommend that you close the disco in the center because you could be a target.
Another negative point is that going to the beach is a pain, one day I went to Tierra Bomba with a friend and we agreed about 300 K (I don't remember exactly) to take us by boat round trip and some hammocks on the beach with a small lunch. Everything was going well but when we talked about going back to 'el laguito', they began to say that the hammocks were not included and I don't know what else, and that we had to pay 200 K more, what? That is not what was agreed, we were arguing, until we already discussed calling the police, and they relented, but a nice day at the beach was ruined.
In the end, everyone has become more aggressive and they try to rob you everywhere. Last week I didn't even go to the beach to avoid problems and at night I would retire as late at 2.
So this year, I'm thinking about another destination, as I like Latinas I'm studying Medellin, Sosua or Rio. I expect better luck.
I have to advise against this.
Do not negotiate anything on Tinder or you can easily be banded if you get reported too many times. Girls will report you if they perceive you as an asshole.
Keep everything clean on Tinder, then take the conversation off to Instagram or Whatsapp and negotiate there. Most girls have their Instagram handle in their profile anyway so just talk to them over there. You don't want to be that guy getting banded and having to end up making a new Facebook or getting a new number just to use Tinder again.Correction, I did discuss details on WhatApp. Just used Tinder to greet and get the WhatsApp number. You are absolutely correct, as I wasn't clear enough. Thanks for correcting my misinformation.
AcesOnTheRiver
05-24-23, 05:19
Hello,
My native language is Spanish, sorry for my shitty English.
I had been in CTG in August 2019 and it was quite well, most of the nights I was in Dolce and Space, I was with 8 beautiful Colombians and 8 Venezuelans in 21 days and I only repeated several days with a Venezuelan who was crazy hot. All the girls between 200 K-300 K ST, it was a good holidays.
So after the pandemic I repeated in August 2022 and things got much worse.
The girls at the Dolce were asking $100ST and $250 LT (they work in $). The first night when I started talking to the girls and they asked me for 400-500 K for ST, I said: are you crazy? But no, groups of 10-12 guys from USA came in and took all the girls, so they force us to go into the same game. I like the top 7-9 girls for a 5-6 I don't go to Colombia, and in the end I had to pay between 350-400 k (and bargaining).
But worst of all, the vagabonds have become more aggressive, they chase you all over the city and it's very uncomfortable. One night that I closed the Dolce, I was going out with a girl at 3, it was Monday or Tuesday, there were no police, and from the door of the dolce to a taxi on the corner, there were 5 meter, but around 5 boys surrounded me, they pushed me and they asked me to give them the money, I'm 2 m tall and I weigh almost 100 kg so I got off of them and got into the taxi, and even so they kept getting into the taxi asking me for money, for the girl and for the drugs they had given me, What drug? If I don't know you?? The truth is that it was scare. If you are alone, I do not recommend that you close the disco in the center because you could be a target.
Another negative point is that going to the beach is a pain, one day I went to Tierra Bomba with a friend and we agreed about 300 K (I don't remember exactly) to take us by boat round trip and some hammocks on the beach with a small lunch. Everything was going well but when we talked about going back to 'el laguito', they began to say that the hammocks were not included and I don't know what else, and that we had to pay 200 K more, what? That is not what was agreed, we were arguing, until we already discussed calling the police, and they relented, but a nice day at the beach was ruined.
In the end, everyone has become more aggressive and they try to rob you everywhere. Last week I didn't even go to the beach to avoid problems and at night I would retire as late at 2.
So this year, I'm thinking about another destination, as I like Latinas I'm studying Medellin, Sosua or Rio. I expect better luck.
Try Rio (you can find my detailed report in the Rio thread), I stayed in Copacabana, and never felt unsafe. It's Ubers every 2 min apart for pennies on the dollar. Pricing is similar to cartagena, but the Rio girls and service are by farrrrrrr greater (BBBJ being STANDARD should tell you everything you need to know about the service and the girls). CTG chicas spoiled and hardened AF now. Sousa is trash quality of chicas. I would go to Rio over and over again, however, the Only downside is the 14 hour travel/flight from NYC is insane, it's literally the only reason CTG still is an option for me- just booked CTG (5 hour non-stop for me) end of July, will report back!
Forget Sosua, the same Gringos who are ruining Cartagena destroyed Sosua. It's an escalating cycle, hardened clients, hardened girls, more aggressive vendors and as you experienced even children.Agree. The funny thing is 90% of them aren't making $100 k US, but they spend like they're making $1 M LOL.
Agree. The funny thing is 90% of them aren't making $100 k US, but they spend like they're making $1 M LOL.They save up to get ripped off for a weekend. LOL.
ForroMambo
05-24-23, 08:47
Agree. The funny thing is 90% of them aren't making $100 k US, but they spend like they're making $1 M LOL.Yes, they are not brokers, I can assure you, but USA is very close, in the CTG airport I could see flights from Miami every 2 hours, for example, they come for 3-4 days, I understand that they go on another plan, weekend with friends making money fly.
But for me it's my summer Holidats and I usually go 3 weeks, that rate of spending per night makes it more difficult for me. But no problem I work all the year for relax in holiday.
ForroMambo
05-24-23, 08:51
Try Rio (you can find my detailed report in the Rio thread), I stayed in Copacabana, and never felt unsafe. It's Ubers every 2 min apart for pennies on the dollar. Pricing is similar to cartagena, but the Rio girls and service are by farrrrrrr greater (BBBJ being STANDARD should tell you everything you need to know about the service and the girls). CTG chicas spoiled and hardened AF now. Sousa is trash quality of chicas. I would go to Rio over and over again, however, the Only downside is the 14 hour travel/flight from NYC is insane, it's literally the only reason CTG still is an option for me- just booked CTG (5 hour non-stop for me) end of July, will report back!Sosua and Medellin have the same problem, buffff.
Then I will try Rio, I have good memories of Northeast Brazil, Natal, Fortaleza, in the past (2008-2013) but now that area is dead.
As you said Brazilian girls make different, they are allways my favorites.
Thanks a lot guys.
None of those are any better. You can thank those Passport Boys for that. Inflation, Medellin is out of control with Scope, Sosua girls are talking in dollars and overweight walking like pigeons, and Rio is still a little iffy. I would say just avoid any area that the majority of those YouTubers are going in mass.I have not been in Cartagena for almost a whole year and I had lived there on and off for over three years. I got reassigned back in the USA To work on the border for awhile but had time to make a few get aways which I found somewhat better than Cartagena, Sosua and Medellin and no weekend millionaires, yet. I had cute Latin's everywhere at super good prices not even 1 hour outside the USA.
I had a supper good time in Tijuana and in Cuba. I would feel really sorry for my USA Brothers to come to either and act the way they have in Sosua or Cartagena. I just returned from the Philippines' and Bangkok also good times in both. If what I hear is true that my Passport guys are not making over 100 K a year I don't expect to see them here, the airfare is high too high for just 4-5 days. My next trip to Cartagena will be soon for baseball business and find new management for my apartment as a Airbnb.
SouthernOcean
05-24-23, 23:26
Love the Clock tower and the clubs but looking for a different option this time. Recommendations for online and bordellos, if they exist. Staying at a friendly hotel so guests are not a problem. Looking forward to meeting one of you guys for a beer.
I just returned from the Philippines' and Bangkok also good times in both. If what I hear is true that my Passport guys are not making over 100 K a year I don't expect to see them here, the airfare is high too high for just 4-5 days. You must have just missed those Passport Bros.
They were over in Bangkok and Pattaya for that Rolling Loud concert that took place around Songkran and was online complaining about everyone throwing water during the holiday and they can't go out because they not trying not to get their Jordans wet. Many were doing the whole Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket, Cambodia, Vietnam, Philippines, etc.
They were making it rain with Bhat in a club in a YouTube video but I couldn't see which club.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2fAyPXzEWE
The same behavior that ruined Sosua is popping up more and more in Cartegena. Word is that all this was over a few dollars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yER3KrQ3VI
SouthernOcean
05-26-23, 20:49
Gentlemen, Ignore the make it rain fools. The girls have to make a living and the rain can't be everywhere every day. My recent experience, less than a year ago, was 200 to 300 for basics with BBBJ and another 100 or 200 for anal. Truly good looking women. More women than idiots.
I am looking for the brothels, good online sites, and daytime places other than the beach. Thank you all in advance. Happy Memorial Day and happy mongering.
Elvis 2008
05-26-23, 22:20
The same behavior that ruined Sosua is popping up more and more in Cartegena. Word is that all this was over a few dollars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yER3KrQ3VINypher, one time I met a chick off of seeking and we were having sex and she said, "I can tell the police that you raped me". So I stopped with the sex, got dressed and opened the door and threw the woman's money on the floor outside the door. Once she went to get it, I slammed it behind her. There were cameras in the hotel and everyone could see her for what she was really interested in. In separating myself from her, the woman could claim an economic issue, which at worst is for the courts to deal with and not a safety which at worse is one for the police.
And these women are trying to trick the men into making it a safety issue, and these dummies are falling for it. The men are yelling and moving in a threatening manner. That is totally wrong. You stay calm, express your desire for them to leave and it is best to record it. If they do not leave, you can do what I did if there are cameras. But if not, you pack up your stuff and you go down to the lobby and call for security.
Now we have seen security guards take the side of women when there are issues like this. If security says, "Just pay the women", I would say, "These women are trespassing, and your job as a security guard is to make certain people do not trespass. Do I need to let the management / owner know about this?" Now if the women do not leave, the security guard can notify the police, and the women not you are the ones breaking the law, and THEY are the security risk and can be arrested.
Mr Enternational
05-27-23, 01:06
Gentlemen, Ignore the make it rain fools. The girls have to make a living and the rain can't be everywhere every day. My recent experience, less than a year ago, was 200 to 300 for basics with BBBJ and another 100 or 200 for anal.But can't you see that you are still making it rain? What do you think paying an EXTRA $23 or $45 for anal is? I am from the school that if a chick does whatever acts then she does whatever acts; not like that Tijuana shit where you got to pay a hooker $10 to take off her clothes. Here in Thailand when I take a chick all night for $30, I can ask her if she likes to fuck ass. If she says yes then it is fair game to fuck her ass included in the $30. She does not say that will be an extra $25.
Mr Enternational
05-27-23, 01:37
You must have just missed those Passport Bros.
They were over in Bangkok and Pattaya for that Rolling Loud concert that took place around Songkran etc.
They were making it rain with Bhat in a club in a YouTube video but I couldn't see which club.]No wonder these hoes around here in Pattaya talking crazy. The other night I tell a chick my usual $35 (1200 baht) for all night and she is going to tell me $86 (3000 baht). Talking about $35 is for short time. The next day she was back to her senses though and contacted me for that $35 long time I was telling her about. The club in the video is 808. You can compare a screenshot of my video with theirs.
Mr Enternational
05-27-23, 09:54
Now we have seen security guards take the side of women when there are issues like this. If security says, "Just pay the women", I would say, "These women are trespassing, and your job as a security guard is to make certain people do not trespass. Do I need to let the management / owner know about this?" Now if the women do not leave, the security guard can notify the police, and the women not you are the ones breaking the law, and THEY are the security risk and can be arrested.You are coming from a sterile first world perspective. I certainly would not hold my breath waiting for things to turn out like that. What the management or owner would know is that YOU brought someone on the premises that is causing trouble. The security guy is not responsible for your guests going haywire, you are.
JohnnyWishBone
05-27-23, 12:26
This time last year, I was picking up girls for two or three hours for around 200.000 to 300.000 COP without fuss. Overnight was only around 400.000 to 500.000 COP.
I have been here for two nights now, and now all the girls are quoting their fees in USD only. Some have the audacity to charge 100 USD for un rato. But I have noticed the standard one hour at 100 USD and then overnight is an additional 400.000 COP on top.
The market here in Cartagena has been completely ruined now compared to last year and previous few years. Street girls shouldn't be charging 900.000 COP plus for an overnight.
This time last year, I was picking up girls for two or three hours for around 200.000 to 300.000 COP without fuss. Overnight was only around 400.000 to 500.000 COP.
I have been here for two nights now, and now all the girls are quoting their fees in USD only. Some have the audacity to charge 100 USD for un rato. But I have noticed the standard one hour at 100 USD and then overnight is an additional 400.000 COP on top.
The market here in Cartagena has been completely ruined now compared to last year and previous few years. Street girls shouldn't be charging 900.000 COP plus for an overnight.It end result of work of social media "creators". They post every day "walking videos" from Colombia on YT and TikTok like "hot sexy cheap girls" etc. It brings massive amount of sexually starved western men as customers who will agree to pay any price. This videos get about half million views and probably more on TikTok what you may expect is constant downtrend unless we hit massive economic crisis.
Mr Enternational
05-27-23, 14:49
It end result of work of social media "creators".Nope. It is the end result of don't tell me how much I should be paying.
To hell with the begrudgers. Who are these self-appointed self-styled arbiters of taste and values who while supposedly happy playing in their own corner of the sandbox feel entitled to judge others who choose to freely and enjoyably travel in a different direction. Is it possibly jealousy because of their inadequate finances or perhaps a more perverted know all control freak personality? Either way who cares, if I feel like paying 10,000 for a night out I go for it with no regrets and you know it's always been my strong impression that those who spend money freely enjoy a more fulfilled life.
The same behavior that ruined Sosua is popping up more and more in Cartegena. Word is that all this was over a few dollars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yER3KrQ3VIWhy did the guy in the video say Mexico?
Why did the guy in the video say Mexico?I don't know why the guy said Mexico, he probably didn't know where they was at seeming that that one guy only knew "Adios."
I don't know of anyone who would take girls off the street in Mexico and bring them back to their apartment, its usually just short time hotels in Mexico.
..And these women are trying to trick the men into making it a safety issue, and these dummies are falling for it. The men are yelling and moving in a threatening manner. That is totally wrong. You stay calm, express your desire for them to leave and it is best to record it. If they do not leave, you can do what I did if there are cameras. But if not, you pack up your stuff and you go down to the lobby and call for security..Yes you're right, we can hear in the video that the girl keeps saying "tocame" which I believe is "touch me" as she's trying to bait him into changing it into a physical altercation and the dumbass is all in his feelings not paying attention that another girl is recording him. To get that emotional yelling and screaming over a few dollars is just stupid.
This scenario in the video is one of the reasons why mongers don't want to freely share information anymore as these individuals show up and act a fool.
This is how guest friendly AirBB rules change to no visitors allowed.
This is how girls now want to be paid before she takes her clothes off.
No wonder these hoes around here in Pattaya talking crazy. The other night I tell a chick my usual $35 (1200 baht) for all night and she is going to tell me $86 (3000 baht). Talking about $35 is for short time. The next day she was back to her senses though and contacted me for that $35 long time I was telling her about. The club in the video is 808. You can compare a screenshot of my video with theirs.Yeah, whoever they go they just fuck it up, and the moment someone try to tell them something about their behavior and how its effecting things its usually brings about a default response of them accusing people of "hating" or "pocket watching." Then only to turn around years later to complain about the same behavior they themselves kick started.
Everyone thought Thailand was too far or expensive for them to get to but bring along the Hip Hop and it brings the nonsense with. I was hoping one of them fuck around and find out over there because their laws don't play and Thai jail ain't no joke.
This time last year, I was picking up girls for two or three hours for around 200.000 to 300.000 COP without fuss. Overnight was only around 400.000 to 500.000 COP.
I have been here for two nights now, and now all the girls are quoting their fees in USD only. Some have the audacity to charge 100 USD for un rato. But I have noticed the standard one hour at 100 USD and then overnight is an additional 400.000 COP on top.
The market here in Cartagena has been completely ruined now compared to last year and previous few years. Street girls shouldn't be charging 900.000 COP plus for an overnight.I've been posting about this for a while. Even girls I knew for years tried to up their prices on me and I had to send them on their way and get newer girls. I find that the older these chicas get and the longer they are in that working environment the more money they want and the less service they provide. But problem is that mongers are taking the girls out of Colombia, most of my chicas now got passports, I see them posting tons of selfies in Tulum, Cancun, Aruba, Ecuador, and as far as Italy, Paris, Croatia, and Morocco, then there are the Venezuelans who crossed the border, one of them I've known for 3 years I was just with in February in Cartagena, is now posting selfies in Times Square.
The entitlement has reached them through social media, now they are no better than the local girls in our area on listcrawler.
Sosua and Medellin have the same problem, buffff.
Then I will try Rio, I have good memories of Northeast Brazil, Natal, Fortaleza, in the past (2008-2013) but now that area is dead.
As you said Brazilian girls make different, they are allways my favorites.
Thanks a lot guys.This is funny because I remember about 18-20 years ago, some were saying Rio was ruined by the make it rain guys. While prices did go up in Rio when there was a significant influx of stupid Gringos, it didn't ruin the scene. The seismic event for Rio was the closing of Help in 2009. Even with that, it's still a fantastic destination for our hobby.
This time last year, I was picking up girls for two or three hours for around 200.000 to 300.000 COP without fuss. Overnight was only around 400.000 to 500.000 COP.
I have been here for two nights now, and now all the girls are quoting their fees in USD only. Some have the audacity to charge 100 USD for un rato. But I have noticed the standard one hour at 100 USD and then overnight is an additional 400.000 COP on top.
The market here in Cartagena has been completely ruined now compared to last year and previous few years. Street girls shouldn't be charging 900.000 COP plus for an overnight.I'm here now and experiencing the same exact thing. Girls that I've fucked for 300 k are quoting $150. I offered a girl 350 k and she told me it wasn't enough to feed her dog. I know Cartagena is viral but Jesus Christ a lot has changed in a year. Personally I won't be back for a while if ever. Unless you feel like waiting for 3/4 am every night to find a chica that hasn't gotten picked or it's going to be a challenge to find a girl for under 400 k. I hope I'm wrong but I won't be back to find out.
Monger Longer
05-27-23, 22:28
Trying to figure out my plan. If a hotel is not guest friendly they will up-charge you for a guest to stay the night. What about during the day? Can I invite someone in for a couple hours during the day without any fuss?
If this isn't an option, what do you do in Cartagena? Are there love hotels like in Bogota? I don't see any info about brothels in CTG and I'm not really into going to the strip clubs in Armenia. I'll be one night in Bocagrande and two nights in the Walled City.
I'm here now and experiencing the same exact thing. Girls that I've fucked for 300 k are quoting $150. I offered a girl 350 k and she told me it wasn't enough to feed her dog. I know Cartagena is viral but Jesus Christ a lot has changed in a year. Personally I won't be back for a while if ever. Unless you feel like waiting for 3/4 am every night to find a chica that hasn't gotten picked or it's going to be a challenge to find a girl for under 400 k. I hope I'm wrong but I won't be back to find out.Did they send you this picture yet? JAJAJA.
When I was experiencing this in February I put the information out there so others can avoid my price gouging experience, prepare themselves, and adjust their budget accordingly.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2792999&viewfull=1#post2792999
Mr Enternational
05-28-23, 05:48
I don't know why the guy said Mexico, he probably didn't know where they was at seeming that that one guy only knew "Adios."Well that was a great video. It is videos like these that guys should be watching more than the ones of guys talking about picking up great chicks. Unfortunately we could not see what led up to the confrontation, but I think the narrator nailed it. One chick out of that group tried to finesse the guy about something. Whether it was the price or her trying to steal something or whatever. (I was recently in the same scenario in Thailand where I was trying to show a chick some pictures on my phone but she thought I took naked pictures of her. My exact words were the same as his. GO!) It was only the one chick that the guy was trying to get to leave. There did not seem to really be a problem with the other chicks. And she still wanted payment regardless. I have been in that same situation and the only word that is needed at that point is goodbye. No need for him to say anything other than adios.
But why is it that women will not just get the fuck out when told? Years ago I had let a chick that I messed with before come to my house to wash her clothes. She fucked around and ordered porno on my TV. She claimed he would give me the money for it but she was not forking it over. I told her to leave but she refused to go. I had to end up calling the police to come get her out, soaking wet clothes and all.
It was not the guy's fault. It is just one of the pitfalls of dealing with women in general, not just hookers. That narrator was funny as fuck and knew exactly what was going on. It is not milk and honey. It is street shit. Hope for the best but be prepared for the worst.
NapataJohn
05-28-23, 19:38
Trying to figure out my plan. If a hotel is not guest friendly they will up-charge you for a guest to stay the night. What about during the day? Can I invite someone in for a couple hours during the day without any fuss?
If this isn't an option, what do you do in Cartagena? Are there love hotels like in Bogota? I don't see any info about brothels in CTG and I'm not really into going to the strip clubs in Armenia. I'll be one night in Bocagrande and two nights in the Walled City.https://www.motelindiana.com/
Elvis 2008
05-29-23, 01:34
It was not the guy's fault. It is just one of the pitfalls of dealing with women in general, not just hookers. That narrator was funny as fuck and knew exactly what was going on. It is not milk and honey. It is street shit. Hope for the best but be prepared for the worst.Do you know what the word assault means, Mr. E? It does not mean to hit.
Assault is generally defined as an intentional act that puts another person in reasonable apprehension of imminent harmful or offensive contact.
Battery is an unlawful application of force directly or indirectly upon another person or their personal belongings, causing bodily injury or offensive contact.
And that video shows the black American man assaulted the Colombian woman. Period.
And why don't they leave? Because they want money! The woman is saying to the guy touch me so she can get the police to charge him with something. Maybe later she drops the assault and battery charges if you pay her $5000.
What the management or owner would know is that YOU brought someone on the premises that is causing trouble. The security guy is not responsible for your guests going haywire, you are.Wrong. Security guard is there for the security of the building and its guests. So if you invite a guest into your place and they try to knife you, and the security guard sees it, is he trained to say, "Sorry, mofo, your guest, your problem!" Come on!
But that misses the point. Who gives a fuck about physical damage or theft of things in the apartment in comparison to a rape, battery, or assault charge? She could also claim that YOU are not letting her leave which is the criminal act of unlawful restraint.
When you are dealing with a crazy woman, the first thing you do is separate yourself from them. Period. When you called the police on the woman who would not leave your place, you are lucky she or the police did not turn on you.
......So if you invite a guest into your place and they try to knife you, and the security guard sees it, is he trained to say, "Sorry, mofo, your guest, your problem!" .....If you are a gringo and the knife bearer is a Colombian chica he would say just that.
https://www.motelindiana.com/I've been out to the Egyptian head once and all I have to say to anyone one venturing out that far is put your safety first when you start seeing an increase of 2 men on a Motorcycle.
Personally, my cut off point for solo venturing is Caribe Plaza and that was after being accompanied there multiple times with a trusted Chica.
Elvis 2008
05-29-23, 19:36
If you are a gringo and the knife bearer is a Colombian chica he would say just that.You do not know what any given security guard would do, and I never mentioned what he would do. I said what he was trained to do.
If you think people in Colombia frequently do not do what they are trained to do, then you should not travel there.
Mr Enternational
05-29-23, 20:16
Wrong. Security guard is there for the security of the building and its guests. So if you invite a guest into your place and they try to knife you, and the security guard sees it, is he trained to say, "Sorry, mofo, your guest, your problem!" Come on!
But that misses the point..Definitely misses the point. You have the wrong idea of what the security guard is there for. He is not there acting as police or a bodyguard. He is there for firewatch and to log who comes and goes. He is not there to jump in front of the knife attack of a chick that you piszed off.
Mr Enternational
05-30-23, 05:03
You do not know what any given security guard would do, and I never mentioned what he would do. I said what he was trained to do.
If you think people in Colombia frequently do not do what they are trained to do, then you should not travel there.My ex-girlfriend in Bogota is a security guard. She was definitely not trained to take down knife attacks. She was trained to walk around and write on a piece of paper. She is more concerned with ghosts than somebody coming through with a knife. Somebody comes with a knife then she can't do shit except write, " 11:03 he got a knife!
Elvis 2008
05-30-23, 08:26
Definitely misses the point. You have the wrong idea of what the security guard is there for. He is not there acting as police or a bodyguard. He is there for firewatch and to log who comes and goes. He is not there to jump in front of the knife attack of a chick that you piszed off.https://www.indeed.com/hire/job-description/security-guard
A Security Guard, or Security Officer, is responsible for protecting a person, organization or asset in the case of an incident. Their duties include monitoring a specific area, evicting trespassers and writing reports detailing any occurrences during their shift.
....If you think people in Colombia frequently do not do what they are trained to do, then you should not travel there.You are a selfish dude, you do not want me to travel to Colombia so you can have all the pussy to yourself.
JohnnyWishBone
06-01-23, 13:16
I've been posting about this for a while. Even girls I knew for years tried to up their prices on me and I had to send them on their way and get newer girls. I find that the older these chicas get and the longer they are in that working environment the more money they want and the less service they provide. But problem is that mongers are taking the girls out of Colombia, most of my chicas now got passports, I see them posting tons of selfies in Tulum, Cancun, Aruba, Ecuador, and as far as Italy, Paris, Croatia, and Morocco, then there are the Venezuelans who crossed the border, one of them I've known for 3 years I was just with in February in Cartagena, is now posting selfies in Times Square.
The entitlement has reached them through social media, now they are no better than the local girls in our area on listcrawler.Sorry, I wasn't aware of previous posts about this.
It is possible to get girls at a more reasonable rate. I think that it helps being able to converse in Spanish. But generally speaking, the American tourists in Cartagena has now completely ruined the feel of the city now.
The average street girl now has much higher expectations, which we cannot blame them where there are idiots mindlessly throwing cash at them, thinking they're a big shot.
I had a few chats with locals and they all say the same thing; too many gringos and American tourists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFlBTOKtUNE
OK its a 4 hour live stream but the girl and the guy in the video tell their sides to what happen that night. To sum it up, The girl told him $350 for all night and he wanted to pay her $150 at the end of the night. I guess he didn't understand $150 was her hourly rate and even though they did their thing for an hour in the bedroom she was still with him for 6 hours for the overnight rate, not counting she was with him in the club as well for all that time.
If you want to jump straight to the girls side it starts at the 2 hour mark.
This is why with new girls after we are done in the bedroom I pay them and tell them "business is done, but I'm about to order some food, if you want to stay and eat, you can, if you want to play in the pool you can, but business is done. " Most girls just hand out and bullshit with me joking around cause they are bored and don't have anything else going on but if they about that money, they eat then out the door to the next gringo.
If you don't have a history with the girl where she won't charge you for idling, expect to be on her clock. These girls are about that money, especially those Delirium girls.
And what the girl said is what I've been trying to tell others, guy like him is why allot of us black guys are getting a bad reputation in Colombia.
Act fool on your block, not overseas.
SouthernOcean
06-01-23, 18:59
I know there is a lot of shit happening with prices going up and disputes about women getting paid but I could use some advice from on the ground mongers. I have been to this beautiful city before and had a great time, but this time I wanted to try any working girl houses. Also maybe a list of good love motels in the walled city. I am staying at the Viajero Centro but don't want a guest every day. Did you know they have an apartment for rent. Looking forward to seeing it. Thank you gentlemen.
The Tall Man
06-01-23, 20:14
Sorry, I wasn't aware of previous posts about this.
It is possible to get girls at a more reasonable rate. I think that it helps being able to converse in Spanish. But generally speaking, the American tourists in Cartagena has now completely ruined the feel of the city now.
The average street girl now has much higher expectations, which we cannot blame them where there are idiots mindlessly throwing cash at them, thinking they're a big shot.
I had a few chats with locals and they all say the same thing; too many gringos and American tourists.Ditto this which is why for the pst ears I don't P4P in Cartagena, just save it for elsewhere, too much of a hassle.
TTM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFlBTOKtUNE
OK its a 4 hour live stream but the girl and the guy in the video tell their sides to what happen that night. To sum it up, The girl told him $350 for all night and he wanted to pay her $150 at the end of the night. I guess he didn't understand $150 was her hourly rate and even though they did their thing for an hour in the bedroom she was still with him for 6 hours for the overnight rate, not counting she was with him in the club as well for all that time.
If you want to jump straight to the girls side it starts at the 2 hour mark.
This is why with new girls after we are done in the bedroom I pay them and tell them "business is done, but I'm about to order some food, if you want to stay and eat, you can, if you want to play in the pool you can, but business is done. " Most girls just hand out and bullshit with me joking around cause they are bored and don't have anything else going on but if they about that money, they eat then out the door to the next gringo.
If you don't have a history with the girl where she won't charge you for idling, expect to be on her clock. These girls are about that money, especially those Delirium girls.
And what the girl said is what I've been trying to tell others, guy like him is why allot of us black guys are getting a bad reputation in Colombia.
Act fool on your block, not overseas.Couldn't agree more. This is not our home turf. Things can get ugly real quick. And who are you going to complain to? The Emabassy??
It's not just blacks. It's all the young to middle age people who think they're hot shots for a weekend with their usd.
And trust me the US Embassy is not going to have any sympathy for people who go to working girl in other countries.
Wrong. Security guard is there for the security of the building and its guests. So if you invite a guest into your place and they try to knife you, and the security guard sees it, is he trained to say, "Sorry, mofo, your guest, your problem!" Come on!
Nobody with more than three digits in IQ is going to protect you from knife attack and for sure not low paid "security guard". You clearly have little idea how dangerous a knife is and I suggest you do some research. Even old man or a woman can finish you easily. Nobody is going to put their life on a line because you got into trouble, you are on your own. The only real defense from a knife is a run or a gun. If someone pulls a knife I suggest you run fast because you may loose your fingers or your life.
https://youtu.be/NK01YjCDRyQ
https://youtu.be/KvT5-WeagJI
Mr Enternational
06-02-23, 04:11
OK its a 4 hour live stream but the girl and the guy in the video tell their sides to what happen that night. To sum it up, The girl told him $350 for all night and he wanted to pay her $150 at the end of the night. I guess he didn't understand $150 was her hourly rate and even though they did their thing for an hour in the bedroom she was still with him for 6 hours for the overnight rate, not counting she was with him in the club as well for all that time.Without seeing the video I would say maybe they both were at fault. Whenever I get a chick's price I then ask how much time you will stay. Do not know if he did that or not. On her part, when the hour was up she should have got up and got her shit. I do not know if she did that. Don't know of anyone that is just going to hang around at work after their normal shift is over assuming they will be paid overtime.
Nypher it seems your way is the smart way to do things. But how a lot of guys say "they do not want to ruin the mood", so they fool themselves it is not about business. Big fucking mistake. $150/ hour to fuck chicks in a 3rd world country. What is this world coming to? Damn my ex in Bogota makes just a little more than that for working the whole damn month. But that is the price you pay to monger on a tourist scene.
Without seeing the video I would say maybe they both were at fault. Whenever I get a chick's price I then ask how much time you will stay. Do not know if he did that or not. On her part, when the hour was up she should have got up and got her shit. I do not know if she did that. Don't know of anyone that is just going to hang around at work after their normal shift is over assuming they will be paid overtime.
Nypher it seems your way is the smart way to do things. But how a lot of guys say "they do not want to ruin the mood", so they fool themselves it is not about business. Big fucking mistake. $150/ hour to fuck chicks in a 3rd world country. What is this world coming to? Damn my ex in Bogota makes just a little more than that for working the whole damn month. But that is the price you pay to monger on a tourist scene.You will be cracking up when you watch the live stream.
Apparently, they were in Delirium weekend millionaire style with about 10 to 15 girls. The girls gave them their hourly and overnight prices while they were in Delirium, but different girls were charging different prices. They left Delirium to a house with about 10 to 15 girls and partied even more. Then the guys in the video decided to take those girls back to separate apartment to continue partying, all that time the girls still have not been paid yet. They said all that argument happened at like 6 in the morning. He tried to give 1 girl $350 to split between her and her friend but her friend took the whole $350 cause that was her all night rate.
I couldn't stop laughing throughout the whole thing when the girl was telling her side of the story VS what the guy said. We all have to keep an open mind with these stories due to many times we never hear the girls side of the story.
That same behavior is on its way to Thailand. Enjoy the peace while you can, those girls over there are about to become just like the Sosua girls by 2025.
Cops will never side with a gringo. Just a matter of time before something really bad happens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFlBTOKtUNE
OK its a 4 hour live stream but the girl and the guy in the video tell their sides to what happen that night. To sum it up, The girl told him $350 for all night and he wanted to pay her $150 at the end of the night. I guess he didn't understand $150 was her hourly rate and even though they did their thing for an hour in the bedroom she was still with him for 6 hours for the overnight rate, not counting she was with him in the club as well for all that time.
If you want to jump straight to the girls side it starts at the 2 hour mark.
This is why with new girls after we are done in the bedroom I pay them and tell them "business is done, but I'm about to order some food, if you want to stay and eat, you can, if you want to play in the pool you can, but business is done. " Most girls just hand out and bullshit with me joking around cause they are bored and don't have anything else going on but if they about that money, they eat then out the door to the next gringo.
If you don't have a history with the girl where she won't charge you for idling, expect to be on her clock. These girls are about that money, especially those Delirium girls.
And what the girl said is what I've been trying to tell others, guy like him is why allot of us black guys are getting a bad reputation in Colombia.
Act fool on your block, not overseas.
You must have just missed those Passport Bros.
They were over in Bangkok and Pattaya for that Rolling Loud concert that took place around Songkran and was online complaining about everyone throwing water during the holiday and they can't go out because they not trying not to get their Jordans wet. Many were doing the whole Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket, Cambodia, Vietnam, Philippines, etc.
They were making it rain with Bhat in a club in a YouTube video but I couldn't see which club.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2fAyPXzEWEJust when I thought I was in some great places without my USA brothers acting fools you show me yes here they are too making it rain bad they did not go to Angeles City a place I don't go. This just tells me soon it will be Sosua so back to Cuba I go because in about a year or two East Asian will be done. Thanks for the video Nypher.
Just when I thought I was in some great places without my USA brothers acting fools you show me yes here they are too making it rain bad they did not go to Angeles City a place I don't go. This just tells me soon it will be Sosua so back to Cuba I go because in about a year or two East Asian will be done. Thanks for the video Nypher.Cuba is going to get them hood boys soon. The "most replayed" of these travel videos usually points to girls on the screen that are usually working girls.
These are recent, last month in Cuba:
Kurt Katz.
https://youtu.be/OZZXg3eOGxs?t=2166
https://youtu.be/GsIxQwxuWSQ?t=2294
Czech in effect.
https://youtu.be/bOxgG6dL_mc?t=2823
https://youtu.be/CaBpks2OIw0?t=389
https://youtu.be/SuBlx3UpqpY?t=886
Mr Enternational
06-06-23, 04:12
Cops will never side with a gringo. Just a matter of time before something really bad happens.You are forgetting that you are in the third world. The cops side with money. If you are thinking they will not side with you then you better slide them money as soon as they arrive.
In Nicaragua my ex-girlfriend was driving us to the lake. She stopped to make a left turn into the entrance when a car slammed into the back of us. The girl was an underage, unlicensed driver with her father in the passenger seat. No brainer case where I am from in the USA. But in this case, my girl was responsible for the damages to her own car because the other party got to the judge first with the money.
Here in Thailand people have to pay to become police officers and they have to pay for each promotion. Why? Because over time they will make a fortune from bribes and kickbacks so it is an exclusive club that one must pay to be a part of. Money talks and bullshit walks.
I am forgetting? What do you think I am some fly in airline stewardess? Trust me I know more than you think.
You are forgetting that you are in the third world. The cops side with money. If you are thinking they will not side with you then you better slide them money as soon as they arrive.
In Nicaragua my ex-girlfriend was driving us to the lake. She stopped to make a left turn into the entrance when a car slammed into the back of us. The girl was an underage, unlicensed driver with her father in the passenger seat. No brainer case where I am from in the USA. But in this case, my girl was responsible for the damages to her own car because the other party got to the judge first with the money.
Here in Thailand people have to pay to become police officers and they have to pay for each promotion. Why? Because over time they will make a fortune from bribes and kickbacks so it is an exclusive club that one must pay to be a part of. Money talks and bullshit walks.
No Cuba will not get these types of tourists. You can't bring a big group to Cuba a travel around unless the government is involved. It's one thing to be discreet but people are watching all the time, and the girls have to be discreet. It's about as far from the Laguito scene as you can imagine.
Cuba is going to get them hood boys soon. The "most replayed" of these travel videos usually points to girls on the screen that are usually working girls.
These are recent, last month in Cuba:
Kurt Katz.
https://youtu.be/OZZXg3eOGxs?t=2166
https://youtu.be/GsIxQwxuWSQ?t=2294
Czech in effect.
https://youtu.be/bOxgG6dL_mc?t=2823
https://youtu.be/CaBpks2OIw0?t=389
https://youtu.be/SuBlx3UpqpY?t=886
Report them to YouTube.
Cuba is going to get them hood boys soon. The "most replayed" of these travel videos usually points to girls on the screen that are usually working girls.
These are recent, last month in Cuba:
Kurt Katz.
https://youtu.be/OZZXg3eOGxs?t=2166
https://youtu.be/GsIxQwxuWSQ?t=2294
Czech in effect.
https://youtu.be/bOxgG6dL_mc?t=2823
https://youtu.be/CaBpks2OIw0?t=389
https://youtu.be/SuBlx3UpqpY?t=886
It really is just the posses. It's disgusting.
It ruined the beach that's for sure. Not going.
Back to Cartagena, and eventually it's going to be an issue for all of us.
Couldn't agree more. This is not our home turf. Things can get ugly real quick. And who are you going to complain to? The Emabassy??
It's not just blacks. It's all the young to middle age people who think they're hot shots for a weekend with their usd.
And trust me the US Embassy is not going to have any sympathy for people who go to working girl in other countries.
It really is just the posses. It's disgusting.
It ruined the beach that's for sure. Not going.
Back to Cartagena, and eventually it's going to be an issue for all of us.Explain what the big issue of groups of men traveling? Black or white how does their existence have any influence on your experience. I think there is a lot of jealousy and very coded language being used to scapegoat a certain demographic of people.
Let's face it not all of us are 60+ yr old retirees on fixed incomes. There are a lot of guys who are 20's- late 30's who make a lot of money and want to simply enjoy their vacation with their friends. Yes those crowds get more of the attention from the chicas because they are younger, enjoy partying and more flexible on budget. That's the reality of the situation. The beach is just fine.
Trip Cyclone
06-12-23, 23:42
I rented a guest-friendly airbnb in El Laguito for about a week.
In the middle of the week, Wednesday I think, I wandered around the clocktower area. I didn't see a single working girl. Not sure if it was because it was the middle of the week or maybe I went out too early- I was looking around after dinner maybe 8-9 PM.
Next day I ended up picking up a streetwalker from right outside my place in El Laguito. She told me "ciento" for the price but when it came to pay she clarified "ciento *dolares*" and of course I only have pesos because that's what the cajeros give. Stupid me for not clarifying up front, learn from my mistake please. Ended up paying 400 k pesos damage- yes, overpaid, I know. Overall I saw working girls in El Laguito pretty regularly late at night.
Didn't monger after that as I hit it off with a girl from Tinder. It was really convenient to have a local with knowledge of Cartagena, knowing things like how much cheaper boats to the islands are if you leave from the hospital instead of El Centro. But that is not what this forum is about so I won't expand further.
I just booked my trip for July 6-9. Was supposed to goin April but flight was cancelled due to crazy rains in Ft. Lauderdale.
Haven't been there in over a year. Looking forward. My regular girl will be there from Medellin. Plan to spend most the time with her and she will help me choose some girls for extra fun. She loves to watch.
Seems like things have calmed down a bit there. I talked to a local I know and he said many less problems than before. Many police.
I did put my tinder to ctg last night. Noticing a ton more dark skin girls compared to previous trips.
I......Plan to spend most the time with her and she will help me choose some girls for extra fun. She loves to watch......Does she self stimulate while watching? I love that, it keeps me harder than viagra.
She does! She loves sitting back, sparking a joint, grabbing a vibrator and watch us and sometimes tell us what she wants to see.
Super hot.
Explain what the big issue of groups of men traveling? Black or white how does their existence have any influence on your experience. I think there is a lot of jealousy and very coded language being used to scapegoat a certain demographic of people.
Let's face it not all of us are 60+ yr old retirees on fixed incomes. There are a lot of guys who are 20's- late 30's who make a lot of money and want to simply enjoy their vacation with their friends. Yes those crowds get more of the attention from the chicas because they are younger, enjoy partying and more flexible on budget. That's the reality of the situation. The beach is just fine.I'm a early 40's guy and I love the party mongering popping bottles and having fun. I spend what many consider is overpaying but as long as I have fun I don't care.
However these groups that come in are rude loud and obnoxious and I think they forget the main objective. It's mongering. These are women for sale.
I go to a club have my fun pick out a girl to spend the night with. Negotiate every little detail I want and off we go.
But nowadays these guys that are coming in just making things worse taking the discretion out of everything.
I'm all for guys having a good time. But when you go into places like dolce vita or delirium you're not there to pick up girls. They're all for sale. This drives up prices because girls don't want to deal with this BS. It's already happened in DR and now in Cart. I predict medellin is next cause I'm seeing more and more girls leaving the country to work.
The beach I don't go to.
I just booked my trip for July 6-9. Was supposed to goin April but flight was cancelled due to crazy rains in Ft. Lauderdale.
Haven't been there in over a year. Looking forward. My regular girl will be there from Medellin. Plan to spend most the time with her and she will help me choose some girls for extra fun. She loves to watch.
Seems like things have calmed down a bit there. I talked to a local I know and he said many less problems than before. Many police.
I did put my tinder to ctg last night. Noticing a ton more dark skin girls compared to previous trips."Your regular girl" LMAO!
Planning my first trip to Cartagena in the next week or so. Living in SFL flights are cheap and quick. I speak enough Spanish to read the ads and local review boards, and I am comfortable I will have no problem finding girls, either pre-booking or going out at night.
I'm less certain about lodging. This whole concept of hotels that don't allow visitors is new to me. I prefer hotels to rentals, and in addition to female companionship I want to stay in a nice place. I'm looking at places in the $80-100/ nt range in Bocagrande. If I go out and bring a girl back to my hotel are they really going to kick her out at the front desk? There are a lot of ads for girls "con sitio privado" in Bocagrande; anyone done incalls in the area? I'm not above renting a cheap hourly place if I meet a girl in town, but I would also like the option of overnights in my place.
I've done a fair amount of research and read a lot on the forum here, but general or specific advice is always welcome.
I rented a guest-friendly airbnb in El Laguito for about a week.
In the middle of the week, Wednesday I think, I wandered around the clocktower area. I didn't see a single working girl. Not sure if it was because it was the middle of the week or maybe I went out too early- I was looking around after dinner maybe 8-9 PM.
Next day I ended up picking up a streetwalker from right outside my place in El Laguito. She told me "ciento" for the price but when it came to pay she clarified "ciento *dolares*" and of course I only have pesos because that's what the cajeros give. Stupid me for not clarifying up front, learn from my mistake please. Ended up paying 400 k pesos damage- yes, overpaid, I know. Overall I saw working girls in El Laguito pretty regularly late at night.
Didn't monger after that as I hit it off with a girl from Tinder. It was really convenient to have a local with knowledge of Cartagena, knowing things like how much cheaper boats to the islands are if you leave from the hospital instead of El Centro. But that is not what this forum is about so I won't expand further.Most girls don't arrive at the clocktower until 10 pm.
Girls that walk around El Laguito are beyond recycled. Many of them just finished up with a gringo or two and looking for another in the same area.
Its been covered multiple times that the girls are talking in Dollars and you should assume that they are talking in dollars unless YOU clarify pesos. The chica said "ciento" you should know off the bat that she meant $100 dollars. There should be no confusion that she was talking in pesos as no chica is charging 100 mil pesos for anything in the tourist areas of Cartagena.
Leaving from the hospital (Behind the Hilton) VS Centro is exactly the type of information this forum needs so other won't get taken advantage of.
Same with the price hike of the food of Hollywood beach.
Tinder is a great resource, enjoy your trip.
Planning my first trip to Cartagena in the next week or so. Living in SFL flights are cheap and quick. I speak enough Spanish to read the ads and local review boards, and I am comfortable I will have no problem finding girls, either pre-booking or going out at night.
I'm less certain about lodging. This whole concept of hotels that don't allow visitors is new to me. I prefer hotels to rentals, and in addition to female companionship I want to stay in a nice place. I'm looking at places in the $80-100/ nt range in Bocagrande. If I go out and bring a girl back to my hotel are they really going to kick her out at the front desk? There are a lot of ads for girls "con sitio privado" in Bocagrande; anyone done incalls in the area? I'm not above renting a cheap hourly place if I meet a girl in town, but I would also like the option of overnights in my place.
I've done a fair amount of research and read a lot on the forum here, but general or specific advice is always welcome.The general or specific advice for the places $80 -$100 a night is to get a guest friendly AirBB in Centro or Getsemeni then you will have zero problems bringing in girls as opposed to going to Bocagrande and taking the risk. That $80 -$100 your spending per night will have an additional fee for whatever girl you bring in so in the end whatever you believe you are saving will just be spent elsewhere in fees or short time hotels.
Buena Suete.
Mr Enternational
06-14-23, 12:50
However these groups that come in are rude loud and obnoxious and I think they forget the main objective. It's mongering. You assume everyone's main objective is the same!
Mr Enternational
06-14-23, 12:58
"Your regular girl" LMAO!That tripped me up years ago. I would be using the term regular girl to mean a chick that is not a hooker. But I noticed other people using regular girl to mean a hooker that they see often or on a regular basis. That led me to use the term normal instead of regular. It was the same thing with the term non-pro. I always used it to mean non-prostitute. But there are other guys that use the term to mean the chick does not prostitute often. No idea what their idea of often is or how they would know how often she fucks for money. Go figure. I have never understood these tiers of prostitutes. If she is fucking for money and I am looking for a chick to fuck for money, then that is all the evidence I need. Makes no difference to me whether she is doing it once a month or 10 times a day.
The general or specific advice for the places $80 -$100 a night is to get a guest friendly AirBB in Centro or Getsemeni then you will have zero problems bringing in girls as opposed to going to Bocagrande and taking the risk. That $80 -$100 your spending per night will have an additional fee for whatever girl you bring in so in the end whatever you believe you are saving will just be spent elsewhere in fees or short time hotels.
Buena Suete.I would be OK giving the doorman a $20 to bring a girl in, or paying a house fee for a second guest. It's not (entirely) about the money. I would much rather stay in a luxury hotel with a nice pool on the beach than a BNB in the middle of town with whatever amenities the owner provides. What I don't want is to have a girl kicked out based on a no-visitor policy, which would be embarrassing and inconvenient for both of us, and totally fuck up a good night.
Any experience with girls with incalls? I see a lot of ads for girls in Bocagrande.
Yeah. My regular that I have seen for over 6 years every trip I go. Not sure what's so funny.
I agree with the groups being bad and annoying. This is and isn't a discrete hobby. The majority that do this do travel solo or in a small group of 2-3 guys max. Going with a group of several guys and making all this hoopla does well for no one.
It's discrete in the sense I'm sure none of us here want a YouTube video of us negotiating with chicks or anything. But it's not discrete in the sense you go to well.
Known establishments for this.
I remember the days walking into a place after a work convention in a foreign city, seeing someone you know and just giving a nod. Today that discretion is gone. Instead you have some a hole next to you taking pics and videos. "OMG guys look at all this, look how easy it is. Blah blah".
MaddTraveler
06-14-23, 16:24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFlBTOKtUNE
OK its a 4 hour live stream but the girl and the guy in the video tell their sides to what happen that night. To sum it up, The girl told him $350 for all night and he wanted to pay her $150 at the end of the night. I guess he didn't understand $150 was her hourly rate and even though they did their thing for an hour in the bedroom she was still with him for 6 hours for the overnight rate, not counting she was with him in the club as well for all that time.
If you want to jump straight to the girls side it starts at the 2 hour mark.
This is why with new girls after we are done in the bedroom I pay them and tell them "business is done, but I'm about to order some food, if you want to stay and eat, you can, if you want to play in the pool you can, but business is done. " Most girls just hand out and bullshit with me joking around cause they are bored and don't have anything else going on but if they about that money, they eat then out the door to the next gringo.
If you don't have a history with the girl where she won't charge you for idling, expect to be on her clock. These girls are about that money, especially those Delirium girls.
And what the girl said is what I've been trying to tell others, guy like him is why allot of us black guys are getting a bad reputation in Colombia.
Act fool on your block, not overseas.This is nothing new, simps will be simps and the girls are just taking advantage. Desperate dudes coming from home with no baddie experience and only dated hot girls on their screens using their hands, and now once live in Col or DR and can pay for it mofos don't know how to act LMAO. I'm sick of it, we're all sick of it. And the bad rep of blacks or weekend warriors will continue to deteriorate in Col unfortunately. Why is this complicated? DO NOT SPEND THE NIGHT WITH A PROSTITUTE, PERIOD. DO YOUR BUSINESS, THEN KICK THE HAWKER OUT.
If you need a girlfriend, you want affection, love, someone to spend the night with, someone to go out to dinner with, then get your heads out of your asses, man the f up, brush your teeth and wear some deodorant to go on a goddamn date for f' sake with a real non-pro woman. You won't accomplish it in a week. Treat women with respect and don't assume they all fuck for money or all only care about your dollar, don't expect pussy on the first night, learn their culture, etc. Bottom line, stop trying to domesticate prostitutes, and then you wonder why you got taken advantage of. It's her job to seduce you and empty your pocket, rob you if she can. But a real woman who's curious about dating a foreigner, maybe looking to escape poverty, or learn English, you'd be surprised on what real affection feels like from a non-working girl latin american woman. I can understand many don't have the time for it, but draw a line and stop the delusions with the p4 p girls.
Mr Enternational
06-14-23, 17:18
I would be OK giving the doorman a $20 to bring a girl in, And if something goes haywire and the doorman's ass is on the line, what will you be willing to give?
... If you need a girlfriend, you want affection, love, someone to spend the night with, someone to go out to dinner with, then get your heads out of your asses, man the f up, brush your teeth and wear some deodorant to go on a goddamn date for f' sake with a real non-pro woman. You won't accomplish it in a week. Treat women with respect and don't assume they all fuck for money or all only care about your dollar, don't expect pussy on the first night, learn their culture, etc. Bottom line, stop trying to domesticate prostitutes, and then you wonder why you got taken advantage of......Truth right here! The number of young guys that I run into talking about finding a girlfriend or wife in Colombia and then getting upset when a prepago isn't interested in that is astounding. Similarly seeing guys get upset when the non-pros don't give a shit that they have money, are American, or have tables at the clubs. Guys, they are two totally different groups of women. Stop it with the 'captain save a ho' thinking.
Mr Enternational
06-14-23, 19:46
If you need a girlfriend, you want affection, love, someone to spend the night with, someone to go out to dinner with, then get your heads out of your asses, man the f up, brush your teeth and wear some deodorant to go on a goddamn date for f' sake with a real non-pro woman. I can understand many don't have the time for it, but draw a line and stop the delusions with the p4 p girls.Many ISGers think it is a far-fetched fairy tale for a guy to say he goes out on normal dates. I guess these are the ones that have been in the house beating their meat their entire lives.
OldSchool318
06-14-23, 21:45
"This is nothing new, simps will be simps and the girls are just taking advantage. Desperate dudes coming from home with no baddie experience and only dated hot girls on their screens using their hands, and now once live in Col or DR and can pay for it mofos don't know how to act LMAO. I'm sick of it, we're all sick of it. And the bad rep of blacks or weekend warriors will continue to deteriorate in Col unfortunately. Why is this complicated? Do not spend the night with a prostitute, period. Do your business, then kick the hawker out."
I don't fully agree with this. I have had many a great friendship, some sort of relation with sex workers.
Many have been very kind to me, and were very honest with me. However, you are also right in the fact that the end of the day. They still looking for $$$ and will do what is best for them.
I'll let them spend the night and even go eat and do other things with them if we vibe well, but it's not love. And I tell them up front I will treat them based on how they act. Maybe I have been lucky as I never really had a major issue with any of them. Many more great times than anything bad. But, I certainly ain't trying to turn them into house wives.
This is nothing new, simps will be simps and the girls are just taking advantage. Desperate dudes coming from home with no baddie experience and only dated hot girls on their screens using their hands, and now once live in Col or DR and can pay for it mofos don't know how to act LMAO. I'm sick of it, we're all sick of it. And the bad rep of blacks or weekend warriors will continue to deteriorate in Col unfortunately. Why is this complicated? DO NOT SPEND THE NIGHT WITH A PROSTITUTE, PERIOD. DO YOUR BUSINESS, THEN KICK THE HAWKER OUT.
If you need a girlfriend, you want affection, love, someone to spend the night with, someone to go out to dinner with, then get your heads out of your asses, man the f up, brush your teeth and wear some deodorant to go on a goddamn date for f' sake with a real non-pro woman..I completely agree here. But here's what a lot of guys don't understand especially the young 30-40 age range.
You come to a more economically challenged country thinking you're a big deal because you have more $$ than them.
But here's the thing. If you weren't consistently dating baddies in your home then your luck won't change when you come to Colombia.
The only difference is you can pay to bang a baddie here in Colombia for much cheaper.
I can't count the amount of times diff groups of guys come back catching feelings for hookers and thinking they're special. It's hilarious.
And I'm not prone to it. My first few trips I fell for their charm and learned how things are.
If one wants a real relationship it's not impossible. But here's the first flag. If you still find yourself using google translate with your "novia" then chances are it's not a real relationship.
And if something goes haywire and the doorman's ass is on the line, what will you be willing to give?The same thing I would give if things go haywire no matter where I am. Whatever it takes. Having said that, I would much rather be in a tourist hotel where I am a paying guest, the hotel doesn't want a disturbance, and there is on site security than in an Airbnb where your only option is to call the cops. Honestly, the best way to avoid that situation is to do your homework when picking girls and pay and leave before there is any drama. You can get ripped off anywhere, and overall if I am in a foreign country as a tourist the safest place to be is in my own hotel room.
I'm not a young dumb kid, I don't do stupid shit, I treat girls well, and I don't haggle (I say no). Of course anything can happen, but I am OK with my risks.
"This is nothing new, simps will be simps and the girls are just taking advantage. Desperate dudes coming from home with no baddie experience and only dated hot girls on their screens using their hands, and now once live in Col or DR and can pay for it mofos don't know how to act LMAO. I'm sick of it, we're all sick of it. And the bad rep of blacks or weekend warriors will continue to deteriorate in Col unfortunately. Why is this complicated? Do not spend the night with a prostitute, period. Do your business, then kick the hawker out."
I don't fully agree with this. I have had many a great friendship, some sort of relation with sex workers.
Many have been very kind to me, and were very honest with me. However, you are also right in the fact that the end of the day. They still looking for $$$ and will do what is best for them.
I'll let them spend the night and even go eat and do other things with them if we vibe well, but it's not love. And I tell them up front I will treat them based on how they act. Maybe I have been lucky as I never really had a major issue with any of them. Many more great times than anything bad. But, I certainly ain't trying to turn them into house wives.I am with you. I have had several good relationships, and still have a few. I am also older and I don't think I am going to be dating any hot 20-somethings any time soon, no matter how much I clean up. When I go down there it is very likely I will want a companion for meals, activities, and as a companion to show me the city. If things go well I will probably do one or more overnights. The idea that I would fuck them and kick them out because that's what somebody else thinks I should do is, well, kind of silly.
Mr Enternational
06-15-23, 02:03
If one wants a real relationship it's not impossible. But here's the first flag. If you still find yourself using google translate with your "novia" then chances are it's not a real relationship.I beg to differ. I did not always speak Spanish yet I had real relationships; and that was before google translate existed. The first flag is if you are giving her money; THEN it is not a real relationship. After that add does she have a job or daily routine other than going out to bars and discos.
I think there is a lot of jealousy and very coded language being used to scapegoat a certain demographic of people.Not a code. Very explicit language that is being used to single out a group of people. Huge group of individuals visiting the area. And look what is pointed out:
Its not just blacks. It's all the young to middle age people who think they're hot shots for a weekend with their usd.Not just the blacks eh? But that is the only group specifically mentioned. I know what time it is.
Not a code. Very explicit language that is being used to single out a group of people. Huge group of individuals visiting the area. And look what is pointed out:
Not just the blacks eh? But that is the only group specifically mentioned. I know what time it is.Well I was replying to a post so maybe you coulda read that first?
I beg to differ. I did not always speak Spanish yet I had real relationships; and that was before google translate existed. The first flag is if you are giving her money; THEN it is not a real relationship. After that add does she have a job or daily routine other than going out to bars and discos.You do know that Latin culture the man is expected to take the financial responsibility right??
So why would it be different if you go to their country and want a relationship with their women??
My first GF was a Colombian in NY. She couldn't speak much English. And it simply doesn't work after a while. Yea the first few months to a year is great. But once it's time to settle down it don't work if you can't speak one language. And this was also before google translate.
Not a code. Very explicit language that is being used to single out a group of people. Huge group of individuals visiting the area. And look what is pointed out:
Not just the blacks eh? But that is the only group specifically mentioned. I know what time it is.If someone don't control their own image, someone else will control it for them and unfortunately mostly it's usually the worst examples of us that foreigners set as the default baseline for all of us.
In the video the girl said out who the Chicas mostly have a problem with. But to be fair before this whole Passport Bros nonsense I could hop on YouTube and the drama was white guys in Thailand fighting with Ladyboys on walking street and that shit was funny. Now this whole passport bro wave comes and look at the stuff coming out of Sosua, Medellin, Cartegena, and now Thailand.
The speed of how Cartagena got nicknamed Sosua 2. 0 pretty much self explanatory when watching the drama coming out of there on social media.
I would be OK giving the doorman a $20 to bring a girl in, or paying a house fee for a second guest. It's not (entirely) about the money. I would much rather stay in a luxury hotel with a nice pool on the beach than a BNB in the middle of town with whatever amenities the owner provides. What I don't want is to have a girl kicked out based on a no-visitor policy, which would be embarrassing and inconvenient for both of us, and totally fuck up a good night.
Any experience with girls with incalls? I see a lot of ads for girls in Bocagrande.I know AirBBs condos with all the the luxury stuff, private jacuzzi, great balcony views and security in El Laguito but price starts at $150 a night and needs to be booked months in advance especially if it's an American holiday weekend.
If it's not about the money then rent an additional place in Centro where you can have your after hours fun and still keep your luxury hotel room.
This is nothing new, simps will be simps and the girls are just taking advantage. Desperate dudes coming from home with no baddie experience and only dated hot girls on their screens using their hands, and now once live in Col or DR and can pay for it mofos don't know how to act LMAO. I'm sick of it, we're all sick of it. And the bad rep of blacks or weekend warriors will continue to deteriorate in Col unfortunately. Why is this complicated? DO NOT SPEND THE NIGHT WITH A PROSTITUTE, PERIOD. DO YOUR BUSINESS, THEN KICK THE HAWKER OUT.
If you need a girlfriend, you want affection, love, someone to spend the night with, someone to go out to dinner with, then get your heads out of your asses, man the f up, brush your teeth and wear some deodorant to go on a goddamn date for f' sake with a real non-pro woman. You won't accomplish it in a week. Treat women with respect and don't assume they all fuck for money or all only care about your dollar, don't expect pussy on the first night, learn their culture, etc. Bottom line, stop trying to domesticate prostitutes, and then you wonder why you got taken advantage of. It's her job to seduce you and empty your pocket, rob you if she can. But a real woman who's curious about dating a foreigner, maybe looking to escape poverty, or learn English, you'd be surprised on what real affection feels like from a non-working girl latin american woman. I can understand many don't have the time for it, but draw a line and stop the delusions with the p4 p girls.Not all these girls are the same Jajaj, but then again not all mongers are the same. I used to travel with a guy who every night he wants a different girl and never wanted to repeat with a girl. But, then every night he had some drama with the girl because he's going through the same repetitive steps of getting to know her and if she's good in the bed. My main girl and I found it entertaining as we would sit and watch him pick and make guesses on how long he would stay with her before a problem occurs causing her to leave.
But most mongers know if the girl looks like someone you would never introduce to friends, family or coworkers without feeling embarrassed then put her ass out after business is done. Then there are the discreet girls who dresses modestly and no one would ever think she's selling the box except when we see the type of gringo she's with and it's an automatic thought of "yeah, he's paying bank for that box". Problem is these guys try to grab the hourly street walkers and turn her into long term girls when they could have went and got the long term girl from the start.
SouthernOcean
06-15-23, 14:05
I am staying in Central. Could you tell me if there are some nice Love motels inside the wall. Also I read about a new ED cream that is supposed to work in about 10 minutes. Have you heard of it and is it available there? And lastly, which is the best sex toy shop, inside the wall if possible.
Mr Enternational
06-15-23, 14:25
You do know that Latin culture the man is expected to take the financial responsibility right?? So why would it be different if you go to their country and want a relationship with their women??.Yeah you fall for that bullshit if you want to. I have had countless normal girlfriends all over Latin America in the past over 20 years and never had to assume any financial responsibility. If you are talking about paying when we go on trips or out to eat then sure. If you are talking about paying somebody's rent or bills then hell no. That sounds like the sin sot dowry BS they get dumb foreigners to believe in Thailand. You better learn to tell those broads to kick rocks when they try to pull that crap on you.
I beg to differ. I did not always speak Spanish yet I had real relationships; and that was before google translate existed. The first flag is if you are giving her money; THEN it is not a real relationship. After that add does she have a job or daily routine other than going out to bars and discos.Real relationships have no money involved?
Well I was replying to a post so maybe you coulda read that first?I did read your post and the one you replying to. I do not think you are an "ist" brother so chill. But I have a problem with others identifying a particular group at the visitors causing the "problems" in a location. Example:
None of those are any better. You can thank those Passport Boys for that. Inflation, Medellin is out of control with Scope, Sosua girls are talking in dollars and overweight walking like pigeons, and Rio is still a little iffy. I would say just avoid any area that the majority of those YouTubers are going in mass.I will state again, it is not a code. It is explicit. And like I said before I know what time it is. And I know what type of people make statements like the above. Nypher What is a passport boy? And how did you identify and know they are the cause of the problems you are making reference to?
If someone don't control their own image, someone else will control it for them and unfortunately mostly it's usually the worst examples of us that foreigners set as the default baseline for all of us.
In the video the girl said out who the Chicas mostly have a problem with. But to be fair before this whole Passport Bros nonsense I could hop on YouTube and the drama was white guys in Thailand fighting with Ladyboys on walking street and that shit was funny. Now this whole passport bro wave comes and look at the stuff coming out of Sosua, Medellin, Cartegena, and now Thailand.
The speed of how Cartagena got nicknamed Sosua 2. 0 pretty much self explanatory when watching the drama coming out of there on social media.Once again I ask you who are the Passport Bros or Passport Boys? How do you identify them? And why does their presence and actions affect you at all?
I can speak personally on Sosua experiences. I don't have to watch videos about it. My visits there are not affected by anyone. I have a good time in the places that work for me with the girls that work for me. I see lots of things there that are really sad: like ugly old white guys that are taking a young girl back to the hotel and I really fell sorry for the girl that she has to put herself through that to get money. But I did not create the system. It is what is is. But that "old white guy" is not affecting me at all.
I am staying in Central. Could you tell me if there are some nice Love motels inside the wall. Also I read about a new ED cream that is supposed to work in about 10 minutes. Have you heard of it and is it available there? And lastly, which is the best sex toy shop, inside the wall if possible.Most girls you meet on the street or in the clubs will know where the love motels are.
The mostly known one is.
HOTEL EL VIAJERO CENTRO.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Mrd1ekRD6E9ycgK6A?g_st=ic
The only sex shop I can recall is when I left Monkey Bar and started walking towards the clocktower. It's on that same street as Monkey Bar before reaching Alquimico but I can't remember the name.
There's another in Bocagrande across from the Intercontinental Shopping mall.
SouthernOcean
06-15-23, 18:39
Most girls you meet on the street or in the clubs will know where the love motels are.
The mostly known one is.
HOTEL EL VIAJERO CENTRO.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Mrd1ekRD6E9ycgK6A?g_st=ic
The only sex shop I can recall is when I left Monkey Bar and started walking towards the clocktower. It's on that same street as Monkey Bar before reaching Alquimico but I can't remember the name.
There's another in Bocagrande across from the Intercontinental Shopping mall.Thank you. I do appreciate it.
I did read your post and the one you replying to. I do not think you are an "ist" brother so chill. But I have a problem with others identifying a particular group at the visitors causing the "problems" in a location. Example:
I will state again, it is not a code. It is explicit. And like I said before I know what time it is. And I know what type of people make statements like the above. Nypher What is a passport boy? And how did you identify and know they are the cause of the problems you are making reference to?
Once again I ask you who are the Passport Bros or Passport Boys? How do you identify them? And why does their presence and actions affect you at all?
I can speak personally on Sosua experiences. I don't have to watch videos about it. My visits there are not affected by anyone. I have a good time in the places that work for me with the girls that work for me. I see lots of things there that are really sad: like ugly old white guys that are taking a young girl back to the hotel and I really fell sorry for the girl that she has to put herself through that to get money. But I did not create the system. It is what is is. But that "old white guy" is not affecting me at all.If you ask 10 different people to give a definition what a Passport Bro is chances are you will get 10 different explanations.
To me, I thought it's the new wave of of men from the hip hop community that started travel to developing countries during the pandemic that fall under that label.
The challenge comes along with many people like to follow what they think is popular and trendy at the time. Different people who travel overseas separate themselves into subcategories, there are the Expats, Digital Nomads, Backpackers, etc but lately when overseas drama hits social media of guys acting a fool, take a look at the hashtags attached to the video.
As for how their presence and actions effect me?
When chicas start talking in dollars rather than their local currency.
When chicas want to be paid up front because the previous guy who looks like me fucked her over.
When vendors think they can upcharge me on something because the previous gringos who look like me was being reckless with money.
When clubs tell me I can't come in unless I buy a bottle or table service.
When the younger girls and touts approaching me with "what's up my and* instead of the usual "hola mi amor", or "my friend, my friend".
When certain individuals decide to walk off from the bill at the beach and the guy comes and give me their bill expecting me to pay just because I had the cabana next to them and they asked me a few questions about the nightlife and I told them where to go.
That's just a fraction of it post pandemic. I've learned and adjusted where to spend the majority of my time with limited interactions so I don't get mixed into the BS.
But since you're experienced in Sosua do you remember when Classico's started Bottle service and how all that began?
How about Playa Sosua at the spot with the green Presidente umbrellas? Ever ate there and looked at your bill and wonder why they added things to it that you never ordered?
Mr Enternational
06-15-23, 18:59
Real relationships have no money involved?Stop the money and see what kind of "real relationship" you are still in. It is not rocket science.
Yeah you fall for that bullshit if you want to. I have had countless normal girlfriends all over Latin America in the past over 20 years and never had to assume any financial responsibility. If you are talking about paying when we go on trips or out to eat then sure. If you are talking about paying somebody's rent or bills then hell no. That sounds like the sin sot dowry BS they get dumb foreigners to believe in Thailand. You better learn to tell those broads to kick rocks when they try to pull that crap on you.Bills and their own expenses no.
If we go to restaurants I will always pay. Why? Because I like expensive wine and fine dining. I wanted to go to these types of restaurants.
My GF is happy with food but I wanted aged steak.
But in the end if you want a relationship with any woman that is considered real men will be financially responsible.
There's a difference between being taken advantage of and simply being a man.
I have no problems with the traditional standards of providing if my girl has no problem of being traditional as well. That's where the issue is.
That's exactly it. That guy taking a girl back to his room isn't effecting anyone else. Instead it's the groups making a show because they are in a country where their dollar travels further.
I think the big point being missed is between those groups going to places they can stretch their dollars. To us going to places were a certain hobby is legal or allowed. Half those guys don't end up taking a girl back at the end of the night, or yeah they think they are falling in love 🤣. So they cause inflated prices, and also pissed off girls.
It's a difference going somewhere and understanding the difference in the dollar to just exploiting it.
For me Cartagena is close and easy. Yes the stay and food is cheap, but I'm not staying in a penthouse and ordering lobster. The lower price just means I can stay longer or go more often.
If Canada had FKK clubs legal, shit I'the probably go there once a year because it's so close. For an example.
If Canada had FKK clubs legal, shit I'the probably go there once a year because it's so close. For an example.After the uptick of money throwers in Cartegena doing dumb things of making it rain in clubs and the clocktower area I decided to try a new area where they were not putting out videos of that nonsense and ventured over to Germany last year and tried the FKK scene. I was surprised it was only $500 round trip on a 787 Dreamliner and the plane was half empty on the redeye.
I went in blind and it was not to my liking. A good learning experience, the hard way and now I know from that mistake I was supposed to go to Frankfurt instead of Berlin so my next visit will be different.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=2741920&viewfull=1#post2741920
I know AirBBs condos with all the the luxury stuff, private jacuzzi, great balcony views and security in El Laguito but price starts at $150 a night and needs to be booked months in advance especially if it's an American holiday weekend.
If it's not about the money then rent an additional place in Centro where you can have your after hours fun and still keep your luxury hotel room.Well, just booked the flight and hotel (Bocagrande) for next week, so months in advance wasn't an option LOL. Based on the last few pages I am going Monday to Friday, so I won't deal with the weekend madness. I'm traveling from SFL, the airfare is cheap, I have been practicing my Spanish, so I hope this will be the first of many visits. At some point when I have the lay of the land I will stay through a weekend and see how the scene changes on the weekend.
I have found and read a couple of the local review boards and am making a contact list. Will probably set up one visit in advance and see how it goes. I am amenable to sticking with one girl to show me around if the price and the girl are right but I will keep at least one night to hunt the clock tower.
Instead it's the groups making a show because they are in a country where their dollar travels further.What groups? What show?
I think the big point being missed is between those groups going to places they can stretch their dollars. To us going to places were a certain hobby is legal or allowed. Half those guys don't end up taking a girl back at the end of the night, or yeah they think they are falling in love 🤣. So they cause inflated prices, and also pissed off girls.This dog don't hunt. If half the guys (of the secret, nameless group) are not taking girls, how does that cause inflated prices? I can understand about the girls being pissed off. But they are not assured that they are going to get a client when they go out for the night. The girls have just as much choice as the guys do. And doesn't the business establishment make out well because the individuals in the (secret, nameless groups) are spending money like they are one week millionaires?
It's a difference going somewhere and understanding the difference in the dollar to just exploiting it.Anyone who goes anyplace where their money buys them more value is not being exploitative. They are being smart by using the currency arbitrage to either get more for their budget they have allocated or they are paying less for their normal lifestyle. For me when I travel to Colombia is it not for girls. It is because the quality of the goods and services are better and the prices are lower compared to where I live. I can treat my girl to the lifestyle (to which I have become accustomed) at a price that does not break my personal budget.
For me Cartagena is close and easy. Yes the stay and food is cheap, but I'm not staying in a penthouse and ordering lobster. The lower price just means I can stay longer or go more often.
If Canada had FKK clubs legal, shit I'the probably go there once a year because it's so close. For an example.I make the same choices. I am dreading my two days of travel to Thailand. But I have never been there so I feel I should at least go once.
I will just speak for myself. All my real relationships have involved money. Because money is life. And by a real relationship I mean emotional connection. That I care about the person beyond just a sexual interest. Now if you are just fucking you can certainly get away with just giving her your dick and walking away. If that is all I want to do, unless it is a hook up I just prefer to pay and keep things clear.
Stop the money and see what kind of "real relationship" you are still in. It is not rocket science.It is social science and economics. Have you ever been married? If so, did THAT relationship involve money?
I have been married. Twice. And they were real relationships. And they involved money. And can tell you one thing, in my second marriage the sex stopped. But the money kept flowing (until the divorce). I have had plenty of real relationships and they all involve money. Why stop the money if the relationship is good? If I enjoy spending time with a girl I am going to take her out and spend money on her. In a real relationships.
You are big on the definition of what prostitution is. But I think you don't really understand the meaning. Let me clarify it for you:
prostitution, the practice of engaging in relatively indiscriminate sexual activity, in general with someone who is not a spouse or a friend, in exchange for immediate payment in money or other valuables.
If you are talking about paying when we go on trips or out to eat then sure.So, by your definition, all of your real girlfriends engaged in prostitution with you by your own admission. You don't get to choose what constitutes "or other valuables" and say my payment for this does not count. That dog don't hunt with me. In my humble opinion (and I have been reading your response to my posts for more than a few years), you expect everyone to use your definitions. After all this time you ought to know that I reject your definitions and agree with you about 1 out of 1000 times and that ratio is probably high.
Mr Enternational
06-16-23, 16:20
It is social science and economics. Have you ever been married? If so, did THAT relationship involve money?In my marriage we shared responsibilities. My wife paid the mortgage and I paid the other bills. My wife did the cooking and cleaning and I did the other things like yard work and maintenance to the house.
I have been married. Twice. And they were real relationships. And they involved money.Well allow me to rephrase real relationship to relationship that is not based on money. If that is what you prefer a relationship to be based on then that is a personal preference. But I prefer my relationships not to be based on whether I have or give the other person money or not. I prefer my partner to like me for me, not because the check is coming.
We all know what groups, your just trying to make an issue in the community.
Yes it's a huge difference to people going somewhere doing things they couldn't normally afford. To people going there to do things that are legal and accepted in that society.
Massive difference in fact.
Those people don't know how to act. Like they just hit the lottery. Yet then go back home to their tiny existence.
And how does it raise prices? Because girls see these idiots throwing money around and expect that for them. How do you not understand that?
Oh this moron is throwing away $1 bills. He and his friends can afford to give me a lot more if they act like that.
So yes. This immaturity, ignorance, or just plain stupidity is ruining this scene almost everywhere.
No need for arguing over a matter that is so simple and which the 'arguers' are actually on the same page. P4P is a relationship that is based entirely on money. A 'real' relationship is not based entirely on money, both parties have made a commitment to each other. There are usually several factors that could lead to such a commitment being made and the financial resources of one or other of the parties may be one such factor. Other factors could be looks, background, interests, etc.
Mr Enternational
06-16-23, 17:44
So, by your definition, all of your real girlfriends engaged in prostitution with you by your own admission. You don't get to choose what constitutes "or other valuables" and say my payment for this does not count. That dog don't hunt with me. In my humble opinion (and I have been reading your response to my posts for more than a few years), you expect everyone to use your definitions. After all this time you ought to know that I reject your definitions and agree with you about 1 out of 1000 times and that ratio is probably high.Even Ray Charles can see how disingenuous you are and he is blind and dead, but go ahead and disagree for the sake of disagreeing. There is a thick line between paying for pussy and being in a traditional relationship with someone. Bless the person's heart who can't or claims he can not tell the difference.
Thank your for your warm welcome to the community.
Stop being passive aggressive Rzrfl69 and speak to me directly like real man. That is a request not a demand. And everyone who reads my posts needs to do so with their big boy panties on. I do not argue, attack or call names (like many others do). I discuss and share my thoughts. You don't like my thoughts, put me on ignore.
We all know what groups, your just trying to make an issue in the community.Actually I don't know what groups you are talking about. If you know who they are then state who they are. If you are afraid to state it then maybe deep down inside you know who you are and what what you are and maybe just maybe self examination is in order. I only pointed that many are swimming naked so now they want to run to grab their swim trunks and blame the messenger. I simply let everyone see a reflection of possible biases in themselves.
Exactly what issue am I trying to make?
Yes it's a huge difference to people going somewhere doing things they couldn't normally afford. To people going there to do things that are legal and accepted in that society. Massive difference in fact.Are the individuals you refer to from the (secret unnamed groups in question) doing anything illegal? Are they doing things that are getting them deported from Colombia? Thrown out of the establishments they are doing them in?
Heads up for you Bro. I don't know where you are from. But for he last ten years I have lived in the Dominican Republic. I do not come from sex prison in the DisUnited States of America. I come from a land where young pussy is plentiful and available. But in case you didn't get the memo I have had a passport since got my first job for the government of my country of origin. And it was Diplomatic Passport. The color at that time was red. Pretty heady stuff for young man in his early 20's.
I share this not to brag but to give perspective to you young boys. Anyone with a passport has always been free to travel the world in order to go where they are treated best. Clearly the individuals from the (secret unnamed groups) are doing this after having been smart enough to get their passports, earn enough money to be able to buy a plane ticket to travel to another country, along with paying for the lodging, food and entertainment that they wish.
Those people don't know how to act.What people? And what definition are you using to judge their behavior.
Like they just hit the lottery.Every man that works hard has the right to spend their money as they choose to do so. And real men know this! You will never find me telling another man how to spend his money. So, if someone wants to spend their money like they are one week millionaires, if they like it I love it. Does not affect me one bit.
Yet then go back home to their tiny existence.The individuals of the (secret unnamed group to which you are referring) have worked hard to earn their money. They are taking a bit of time from their wage slave existence to come and enjoy the fruits of their hard work. Exactly what is your problem with that?
How does how another man spends his money have any affect on you?
And how does it raise prices? Because girls see these idiots throwing money around and expect that for them. So, according to you, all men who spend money in a way that you do not approve of are "idiots". Do you have a problem with the fact that I just spent what I had to spend to buy a iPhone 14 Pro Max 512 GB? Lots of less expensive phones out there. Am I an idiot also?
What a girl expects has absolutely no affect on me. I am going to pay what I am going to pay. And I am going to give what I am going to give. It is a private transaction. And my experience and Spanish speaking ability allow me to tell a girl to to get your money from someone else. I am not paying anymore than I want to pay. The ability to say no and be comfortable with yourself is a very powerful skill. Those who seek more inner power need to master it. We all need to be men and hold frame. And not be moved by what others are doing. There are too many girls out there who would like to just have chance to get by this month. Get out of the tourist areas where these (secret, unnamed) groups operate and into the real world and community that you are visiting. You do speak Spanish, right?
How do you not understand that?I understand it better than you do. Because I understand economics. I am not a wage slave anymore. I emancipated myself. I am now a capitalist. I understand that the pussy market is a consumer market. It is also a market where price discovery is not pure as the transitions are private. And learned from my experiences that what I choose to pay or give is not dependent upon what any other man is doing in that market. That is the nature of the pussy market. And because I believe that "pussy is pussy" it allows me to stay focused on the deal and not the girl.
My suggestion is for individuals who are not getting what they want out of life to spend some time doing some self examination and self improvement. Having a little backbone never hurt any man. And they might find their lives dramatically improved if they develop themselves instead of just complaining about others.
Oh this moron is throwing away $1 bills. He and his friends can afford to give me a lot more if they act like that.Well, I feel sorry for the girl who thinks like that. If that activity is occurring it is occurring within a business establishment focused on entertainment. They are spending money. A girl does not decide how much they get from an encounter from me. I decide that. And I would suggest that you and anyone else that does want to be thought of by these same girls to be a punk ass female dog, dumb mother fuckin, girly man do the same.
So yes. This immaturity, ignorance, or just plain stupidity is ruining this scene almost everywhere.Like whoa! Really, I will take your word on this one. And stipulate that you are the expert in Cartagena on the activity that occurs with the (secret, unnamed) groups you are referring to. May I ask question, when you see such behavior and you feel a deep revulsion down to your soul, do you get up and immediately leave the establishment you witness this in?
I see jealousy. And I don't understand why. Those with passports and knowledge, who don't like what others who also have passports and enough money to use them, can just use their passports again to travel to a different location. Or they can simply goto the establishments where the individuals of the (secret unnamed) groups that behave in a way that they don't approve off are not going. Worrying about what another man is doing with his dick or money is a violation of Man Law 101 in my opinion and is some mother fuckin, punk * ass girly man shit.
Instead of focusing on others, focus on yourself. Because if you can take care of yourself you will always be happy. You cannot control what others do. After you arrive in a spot and you find the individuals in that spot to no longer be to your liking, move on. You are not promised the experience your are seeking. Real men get it by seeking it out for themselves until they find it.
1,000,000 million people live in Cartagena. And individuals cannot find a place in the entire city where they are comfortable? Or is it that they simply don't feel that others (others in these secret unnamed groups) should have same right to exercise their ability to travel and party in the places that they do?
I keep it real!
I just booked my trip for July 6-9. Was supposed to goin April but flight was cancelled due to crazy rains in Ft. Lauderdale.
Haven't been there in over a year. Looking forward. My regular girl will be there from Medellin. Plan to spend most the time with her and she will help me choose some girls for extra fun. She loves to watch.
Seems like things have calmed down a bit there. I talked to a local I know and he said many less problems than before. Many police.
I did put my tinder to ctg last night. Noticing a ton more dark skin girls compared to previous trips.I had a reply to this post and either the mods didn't approve it or it got lost on the way due to how fast this board times out and logs you out in the middle of composing a message.
But to sum it up. I wouldn't take face value of 1 local how things are there, I got to multiple sources. For example, I get most of my information from the chicas who work the street and the clubs so I always know what's going on in and around Dolce, Delirium and Space, they will let me know up front the new scams, places to stay away from after certain times, clubs that pulls bait and switch, girls to stay away from, etc.
If you don't have those type of boots on the ground sources then social media is a good alternative.
I've put some reports before of the problems at the beaches, gringos being followed from the airport and robbed at gunpoint, People getting robbed in Getsemani as somehow that area is seeing an increased 2 men on a Motocycle sighting. I guessing the cops no longer have that roadblock preventing them from entering Manga and using the bridge to get over to Getsemani.
Another place to check is Instagram and use it as a resource to be aware of when you see something you can connect the dots and act accordingly rather than get caught off guard.
There are more on Minuto30.
Since you have not been there in over a year, here's a few to keep you aware:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CtbvO4bOlyY/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CryaKFFgfwt/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CsUrfdWA-E5/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CsaITG_A8Xp/
Might not be open:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CtILJsIAjuP/
As always, be cautious, stay safe, and make it home with more good stories than bad ones.
No need for arguing over a matter that is so simple and which the 'arguers' are actually on the same page. P4P is a relationship that is based entirely on money. A 'real' relationship is not based entirely on money, both parties have made a commitment to each other. There are usually several factors that could lead to such a commitment being made and the financial resources of one or other of the parties may be one such factor. Other factors could be looks, background, interests, etc.Another clue is that if she makes her living fucking guys and you are one of them. It's prostitution.
There are 50 shades of grey on this. I have had women I met as prostitutes who became friends, either while they still worked or after they worked. One moved in with me, and one I travel with regularly off the clock. Sometimes we fucked for money, sometimes we fucked for no money, sometimes we didn't fuck and I gave them money anyway, and sometimes we didn't fuck and I didn't give them money. If you need to classify other people, if they still have sex with other people for money they are prostitutes; if they don't anymore they are former prostitutes. That is a job they have (or had) and it doesn't mean they are somehow disqualified from having "real" relationships. I don't feel any need to categorize or classify my relationships (yes, they are relationships), and if anyone else wants to offer their totally uninformed opinion on my relationships I will have a good laugh.
Well allow me to rephrase real relationship to relationship that is not based on money. But I prefer my relationships not to be based on whether I have or give the other person money or not. I prefer my partner to like me for me, not because the check is coming.On this we are in complete agreement. And that is my preference also. Now I'll wait for another 1000 of your replies to my posts for the next point of agreement.
Sorry you disagree with me. I understand your need to be right. Everyone who reads our exchanges can see that is the case. But if you need someone to tell you that you are right to feel better about yourself then you need to talk to one of the girls you are in a real relationship with and ask for that affirmation from her. Because you will not get it in anyplace in this entire forum as you continue to challenge my personal views because you disagree with them.
My degree in Sociology from one the top ten departments in the discipline and allows me to speak with authority on the subject. In my opinion, prostitution is what the society says it is. This is not a point of fact. It is a point of opinion. Reasoned opinion but opinion none the less. I know I am not going to open your mind on the subject because like many people here who cannot accept that others do not agree with them I am just putting my ideas out there. Disagreement just to be disagreeable is not my game. My game is the intellectual sharing of ideas. And I believe what I write. Call me stupid or and idiot if you like. Name calling says more about the person doing the name calling.
Make a deal to have sex for life and it is called marriage. Make a deal to have sex for 1 hour and it is called prostitution. But you do not buy your prostitute a house, car, clothes, food and other items of life that wind up costing much more than paying the hourly fee for a prostitute. So in my mind marriage looks a lot like having your prostitute on retainer for life. And if you think that is not in the minds of girl the world over then you should get out and experience the world a little more. No blessings needed. I there was such thing as true love there would not me multiple marriages and divorce. Hell, people even move one after their spouse dies. Tell me why some of the richest girls in the entire world a rich because they divorced a rich husband. Who actually made that money? And you are going to tell me that "real relationships are not based on money"?
The deal that is made between two people is a bright line issue only to the individuals making the deal. I don't know how you can define a relationship that is not based on money because in a shared money relationship stop putting in your half and sit on your ass all day while your wife works her ass off. And see how long that lasts? Money is a core issue in relationships. It is estimated (depending upon who you want to believe) that 20 - 40% of marriages end in divorce over financial issues. A relationship may not be based on money. But is sure looks to be pretty important in a relationship for sure. Personally I don't believe you can separate the issues.
Even Ray Charles can see how disingenuous you are and he is blind and dead, but go ahead and disagree for the sake of disagreeing. There is a thick line between paying for pussy and being in a traditional relationship with someone. Bless the person's heart who can't or claims he can not tell the difference.
I mean videos interviewing girls. Come on. It's just too much. No more discretion.
No need for arguing over a matter that is so simple and which the 'arguers' are actually on the same page. P4P is a relationship that is based entirely on money. A 'real' relationship is not based entirely on money, both parties have made a commitment to each other. There are usually several factors that could lead to such a commitment being made and the financial resources of one or other of the parties may be one such factor. Other factors could be looks, background, interests, etc.I agree with this. Also, could we say that in a committed relationship neither party is fucking other people? . Or at least I'd hope the woman isn't LOL.
And since it was open both would be "fucking other people". Meanwhile, a more interesting question is if a relationship where the man is fucking other people is a real relationship. I say it is not. Unless the man is open about it. Because real relationships are not based on deception (IMO).
Also, could we say that in a committed relationship neither party is fucking other people? . Or at least I'd hope the woman isn't LOL.
could we say that in a committed relationship neither party is fucking other people? . Or at least I'd hope the woman isn't LOL.I am always amazed how many folks seem to think that everyone else needs to be like them.
I am always amazed how many folks seem to think that everyone else needs to be like them.I think that is just human nature. Everyone sees life through our own individual paradigm. I am sure you are familiar with the expression "Take a moment and walk in another mans shoes. ". That is not a natural thought process. I can tell you from my personal life experience that it took a long time to realize that everyone did not think like me because they were all not as intelligent as I was. Once I realized that, I understood the world much better and my personal interactions improved.
In the end, only my dick matters. And it is fun talking about this stuff here. But it is the moisture of the pussy and my dick inside of it until I ejaculate that matters to me. How I get to that point is a matter of personal preference and not up for debate or judgement by other people. LOL!
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