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Elvis 2008
06-17-23, 06:35
No need for arguing over a matter that is so simple and which the 'arguers' are actually on the same page. P4P is a relationship that is based entirely on money. A 'real' relationship is not based entirely on money, both parties have made a commitment to each other. There are usually several factors that could lead to such a commitment being made and the financial resources of one or other of the parties may be one such factor. Other factors could be looks, background, interests, etc.Good point and good summary. Yeah, we got a newbie here who is arguing just to argue. There is no point to any of it outside of his trying to show how "brilliant he is.
Another clue is that if she makes her living fucking guys and you are one of them. It's prostitution.
There are 50 shades of grey on this. I have had women I met as prostitutes who became friends, either while they still worked or after they worked. One moved in with me, and one I travel with regularly off the clock. Sometimes we fucked for money, sometimes we fucked for no money, sometimes we didn't fuck and I gave them money anyway, and sometimes we didn't fuck and I didn't give them money. If you need to classify other people, if they still have sex with other people for money they are prostitutes; if they don't anymore they are former prostitutes. That is a job they have (or had) and it doesn't mean they are somehow disqualified from having "real" relationships. I don't feel any need to categorize or classify my relationships (yes, they are relationships), and if anyone else wants to offer their totally uninformed opinion on my relationships I will have a good laugh.That is right. Relationships (real or otherwise) are fluid. That is how things work in the real world. You and I feel the same way about those using their own definitions to define the relationships of others. And then attacking you when you reject their narrow minded thinking and present your alternative views. Speaking to you from a point of superiority like they are a parent and you are the child. Most are simply keyboard warriors who would never speak to anyone in person the way they do from the safety of sitting behind their keyboard. I been putting up with mess like that from the same people for nearly ten years. It gets tiring.
How does the expression go? Those of you who think you know it all really irritate those of us who actually do know it all. LOL!
I can't with this guy hahaha. Just ignoring his posts. Is this guy facilitating groups?? Or just wanting to feel a victim?
That's it on that!
Nypher for sure you still have to watch your back. But it's nothing like it was 4 months ago. There is a large police presence now and they are and have been cracking down.
Looking forward to my trip soon. There's no shortage of girls there. That's for sure! Something for everyone's taste.
I can't with this guy hahaha.No you can't. And for good reason.
Just ignoring his posts.No you are not ignoring my posts. You are reading every word. And then commenting in a passive aggressive way each and every time. Below I will answer the questions that you asked.
Is this guy facilitating groups?? Or just wanting to feel a victim?Neither. Just pointing out biases. In life I am winning, in all aspects of the word. Only individuals that allow their happiness to be affected by others are victims. Let's see if the complaints continue and who makes them.
That's it on that! Excellent. Continue to enjoy the mutual admiration society your community has established. Enjoy your trip. And I hope the (secret, unnamed) groups that bother you so much don't interfere with your next trip. Good day Sir!
I am sure you are familiar with the expression "Take a moment and walk in another mans shoes. ". That is not a natural thought process.!Or as Billy Connolly would say "Before you judge someone, trying walking a mile in his shoes. After that who cares? He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
TheNakedIndian
06-17-23, 19:59
I'm debating a trip to cartagena in July. I wanted a trip for punting but also a beach. Reading the forums here and elsewhere it appears hollywood beach is good but a lot of people complain about beach vendors. Is it that bad all over?
Like Medellin is there a Cartagena version of the mansion or safe-ish gringo area I. E. Poblado? Any guidance for a first timer would be appreciated. Cheers.
I was talking to my friend from Medellin, she's in Cartagena right now and she's complaining the Venezuelans are leaving for 200 k. And it seems from tinder, Instagram, and the videos being put out that there are a ton of girls there at the moment.
Any recent reports on how things are at the airport? Knock on wood I never experienced it. But heard stories of hour long waits at immigration coming in. Luckily I usually have early flights.
I was talking to my friend from Medellin, she's in Cartagena right now and she's complaining the Venezuelans are leaving for 200 k. And it seems from tinder, Instagram, and the videos being put out that there are a ton of girls there at the moment.
Any recent reports on how things are at the airport? Knock on wood I never experienced it. But heard stories of hour long waits at immigration coming in. Luckily I usually have early flights.200 K Venezuelans? I'm guessing this is daytime quick fun because at night time it will jump to $100 minimum.
The girls know what's up, they know its Juneteenth and the weekend millionaires are coming down because they have that 1 extra day off from work. The next big weekend to avoid will be 4th of July since it falls on a Tuesday, many of those weekend millionaires will take the Monday off and stretch that weekend in DR or Colombia.
As for the airport lines, I've seen a few stories on social media from state side sistas who like to drag us in the dirt for exercising our options complain about the line as well. For some odd reason some sistas are also running to Cartegena to see why all the brothers are going there so frequently. Unfortunately, most of the plane's land around the same time so pray you aren't behind the Spirit plane because that's where most of the delays happen when they approach the immigration officer and don't have their information ready.
I usually take the first direct flight out and aim to land the middle of the week but by the time I land 2 planes are usually ahead of me and its always a relief when its not the cheese bus LOL.
Happy travels.
I'm debating a trip to cartagena in July. I wanted a trip for punting but also a beach. Reading the forums here and elsewhere it appears hollywood beach is good but a lot of people complain about beach vendors. Is it that bad all over?
Like Medellin is there a Cartagena version of the mansion or safe-ish gringo area I. E. Poblado? Any guidance for a first timer would be appreciated. Cheers.Yes Hollywood Beach is good for daytime action but you will not get any peace and quiet while at that beach especially if your July trip falls on the weekend of the 4th.
I do not know of any places in Cartegena like the Mansion but there are clubs in Centro where you can pop in, see girls and talk to them and negotiate, take them to a short stay hotel or back to your place if you feel its safe enough. El Poblado is not as safe as people make it out to be, most of the stuff I see coming out of Medellin about shootings, robberies, drugging's are El Poblado or Laurels and these are the ones that are reported and make it to the news networks.
Cartegena is safe as long as the traveler use common sense, if its your first time, take the caution of not crossing those bridges that lead outside the walls.
Have fun, stay safe.
John Gault
06-18-23, 20:01
I'm debating a trip to cartagena in July. I wanted a trip for punting but also a beach. Reading the forums here and elsewhere it appears hollywood beach is good but a lot of people complain about beach vendors. Is it that bad all over?
Like Medellin is there a Cartagena version of the mansion or safe-ish gringo area I. E. Poblado? Any guidance for a first timer would be appreciated. Cheers.I wish people would understand that Poblado is not the safe haven that most people think. A fact is more Gringos are killed in Poblado then in Centro. As far as the Vendors and other people who won't leave you alone, you will find that CTG has more of these pests than you could imagine.
John Gault
06-18-23, 20:04
I was talking to my friend from Medellin, she's in Cartagena right now and she's complaining the Venezuelans are leaving for 200 k. And it seems from tinder, Instagram, and the videos being put out that there are a ton of girls there at the moment.
Any recent reports on how things are at the airport? Knock on wood I never experienced it. But heard stories of hour long waits at immigration coming in. Luckily I usually have early flights.MDE is the worst for getting thru Customs. My last 3 trips took around 90 minutes to pass. In May I got thru Customs in CTG in about 15 minutes.
The Tall Man
06-19-23, 14:32
MDE is the worst for getting thru Customs. My last 3 trips took around 90 minutes to pass. In May I got thru Customs in CTG in about 15 minutes.Spot on regards the line getting through immigration in Medellin as the line took me 100 minutes.
TTM.
I always make sure I'm prepared with everything so I can get out of an airport as soon as possible!
Everything printed, filled out, ready. I'll print out my reservation info in Spanish so it's easy for them to read etc. I usually keep a few extra pesos from previous trips too so I can just walk out. Get a taxi and go.
Yes Hollywood Beach is good for daytime action .....You can pick up babes for pay on the beach during the day?
You can pick up babes for pay on the beach during the day?Yes, Thursday. Sunday.
Sunday is the day where its mostly packed but you have to be discreet about it as families are there.
I always say to try them in the day time and then if they are good then call them back for the nighttime. The same girls on the beach will sharply increase their price to $100 once the sun goes down.
OldSchool318
06-21-23, 01:00
I want to love this place because of course the ladies on the beach.
Absolutely cannot stand the touts, but for the ladies I can stomach it.
Except. Every time I have gone to Hollywood I have not found the selection to be that great. I expected each time for some reason that there would be super ladies in hot thongs and mostly I have only seen 5 and 6's and I am not picky at all, I have seen Tony, s book but I don't want the touts working for me. For me my favorite part of mongering is the hunt.
I have fucked off this beach before and I never paid more than 200 k with tips and actually had good experiences but I feel like the quality is so so.
Am I wrong? Have why'all found some mega hotties? Maybe I just showed up on the wrong days but I have been quite a few different days.
Yes during the day the beach and tinder are your best bets.
Really can't wait to be going soon. Seems no shortage of talent. Love the hunt of finding the one I want. Talking to her a bit. Feeling her out. And then pulling that trigger.
Only change this trip I'm still planning on is using Uber instead of taxis.
I still just can't get over these videos and posts of guys going out. Posting them with girls. Oh look they jump right on you. Oh they all want Americans 🤣. And people commenting on it with zero clue. Even a random comment that they are hookers gets shot down 🤣.
This one guy making a video and saying the girls shouldn't care if they are in video if they aren't doing anything wrong like stealing. You moron. They are hookers. They don't want their face and spot blasted on youtube.
And tinder is safe. Just don't think you're getting a date on it like back home 🤣. Invite them to your place. Do the deed. Make them leave. You wana go out, control the situation. Your Uber. Your choice where to eat.
Don't think she's going to show you her city 🤣129315;128580;128580;.
Yes during the day the beach and tinder are your best bets.
Really can't wait to be going soon. Seems no shortage of talent. Love the hunt of finding the one I want. Talking to her a bit. Feeling her out. And then pulling that trigger.
Only change this trip I'm still planning on is using Uber instead of taxis.
I still just can't get over these videos and posts of guys going out. Posting them with girls. Oh look they jump right on you. Oh they all want Americans 🤣. And people commenting on it with zero clue. Even a random comment that they are hookers gets shot down 🤣.
This one guy making a video and saying the girls shouldn't care if they are in video if they aren't doing anything wrong like stealing. You moron. They are hookers. They don't want their face and spot blasted on youtube.
And tinder is safe. Just don't think you're getting a date on it like back home 🤣. Invite them to your place. Do the deed. Make them leave. You wana go out, control the situation. Your Uber. Your choice where to eat.
Don't think she's going to show you her city 🤣129315;128580;128580;.In Driver and DiDi are the other apps. Indriver will be better than Uber. I've had tons of Ubers cancel on me late night but when my chica use indriver we get a taxi.
Those videos are kinda funny and why there is a big separation going on in that community of travelers. The constant of recording interaction with girls for clicks and views trying to make the girls look like normal girls when those of us who been there knows the girls are working and that how he can get a number in 30 seconds with "hola" " de donde erres?" "you have what's app?" "I'm estados unidos" LMFAO. The comments are crazy on TicTok, and always make me lauugh.
I want to love this place because of course the ladies on the beach.
Absolutely cannot stand the touts, but for the ladies I can stomach it.
Except. Every time I have gone to Hollywood I have not found the selection to be that great. I expected each time for some reason that there would be super ladies in hot thongs and mostly I have only seen 5 and 6's and I am not picky at all, I have seen Tony, s book but I don't want the touts working for me. For me my favorite part of mongering is the hunt.
I have fucked off this beach before and I never paid more than 200 k with tips and actually had good experiences but I feel like the quality is so so.
Am I wrong? Have why'all found some mega hotties? Maybe I just showed up on the wrong days but I have been quite a few different days."Mega hotties" is all subjective. For instance I've seen guys there snatch up chicas who I would consider overweight and to them, that's a baddie. To me, she needs to loose some weight. I've seen them go for the ones that suck the fat out their stomach and inject it in their ass making their ass full of craters and cellulite and to them, that's a baddie. I use to travel with a guy who would not touch anything under 200 lb, he just loves women twice his size, that's his "mega hottie", I watched him night after night look for the biggest girl and his grin was ear to ear when he found one. I truly came to understand "to each their own".
What I can suggest is to use Tinder for daytime dates, if you find one you like and things are good then you can bring them back for overnight or day trips. Chicas in the day are way more fun, at night time they are more focused on the money because they know some gringos are out there throwing it recklessly.
You can pick up babes for pay on the beach during the day?My previous message was supposed to say Thursday to Sunday but for some odd reason when posting the website removed the dash.
Today I learned this site turns dashes into dots when posting, I now know to preview every message before posting so information does not get lost on the way.
OldSchool318
06-21-23, 17:06
"Mega hotties" is all subjective.
What I can suggest is to use Tinder for daytime dates, if you find one you like and things are good then you can bring them back for overnight or day trips. Chicas in the day are way more fun, at night time they are more focused on the money because they know some gringos are out there throwing it recklessly.Absolutely. I did mean they were not really up to what I usually look for. But to each their own. I just imagined before I ever went there it was a line up of models and it wasn't. I'm sure some dudes do absolutely find it to be dream place.
Now with tinder I agree. I did find mega hotties to come over and knock on my door like having a pizza delivered. I absolutely found that option the best one by far.
John Gault
06-22-23, 15:45
Tinder, tinder. Tinder. So many guys drugged and some killed from Tinder dates. I guess some guys like to live the fast lane without regard to being safe.
Mr Enternational
06-22-23, 15:57
Tinder, tinder. Tinder. So many guys drugged and some killed from Tinder dates. I guess some guys like to live the fast lane without regard to being safe.Yes this happens with Tinder in Medellin, but does not necessarily mean it happens in Cartagena, Bogota, or Cali the same. Just like finding chicks on Facebook is a thing in Medellin but not other places around Colombia. We can't come on this thread and tell people to find chicks on Facebook; likewise we can not say chicks on Tinder are drugging people. Those things are city specific, not website or country specific.
OldSchool318
06-22-23, 19:26
Tinder, tinder. Tinder. So many guys drugged and some killed from Tinder dates. I guess some guys like to live the fast lane without regard to being safe.Why would tinder be more of a risk than any other app or going to Hollywood or the clock tower?
I had them come to me from tinder and they had to give their I'the to the guest desk. Then if something did happen there is a full paper trail where if I meet them in the club there certainly is not.
Also, I don't even drink although I always would stock the place with booze for them.
Anything can certainly happen anywhere but safety speaking I like my odds a lot. To me it seems like a much safer option.
This happens anywhere on tinder or any dating site. Not just Colombia. You have to be smart.
Yeah, let me meet a random girl in a foreign country and get in a car with her and go somewhere. That's smart. 🙄.
Saying your chances of being drugged by someone off tinder is higher than out of the clubs or streets is being just ignorant.
In my opinion, and from extensive use, it's wayyyyyyyyy safer than going out to meet someone. You have time to build some knowledge of that person. Sure they can be lieing about all, but when she shows up to the apartment and looks different or whatever you can just turn her away. Remember. These girls are hookers. Do your deed, watch your back and carry on.
Instead you want to go to a club, have someone slip something in your drink. Blow a powder in your face. Pick up a girl from the street that's being watched by her pimp. Nah I'm good.
Mr Enternational
06-22-23, 21:05
Instead you want to go to a club, have someone slip something in your drink. Blow a powder in your face. Pick up a girl from the street that's being watched by her pimp. Nah I'm good.Is blowing powder into someone's face really a thing or is it just an old wives tale? I have never seen somebody report it happening to them like that. I am sure if someone blew powder in your face you would have time to say what the fuck are you doing and get away. You would not just be instantly under their contro. I have only seen this in the movie The Serpent and the Rainbow.
"In a time of social and political unrest in Haiti, anthropologist Dennis Alan (Bill Pullman) travels to the torn country to study a Voodoo drug used in religious practices to turn victims into living zombies. With the help of a witch doctor (Brent Jennings) and a fellow researcher (Cathy Tyson), Dennis pieces together the deadly mystery. But as Dennis uncovers the secrets behind the mysterious powder, he must evade the Haitian authorities who view his research as a potential threat. ".
TummySangs
06-22-23, 23:36
If I am looking for high end clubs like Scandallo but don't want to go to SP all the way from US- which one of these 2 cities is a better option? Santa Fe in Bogota seems to be too much of low end SW scene. Never been but just from reading all the posts.
Any info or opinions would be great.
Thanks guys.
Tinder, tinder. Tinder. So many guys drugged and some killed from Tinder dates. I guess some guys like to live the fast lane without regard to being safe.I can take your exact statement and replace the word "Tinder" with "Colombia" or "Medellin" and it will translate the same to guys who go to those places.
Do you believe Tinder is the only place this happens? It happens on every site and every place. Tinder is just the buzz word everyone is using as it's the most common one that's familiar to others. When they don't say Tinder they will say "online".
The girls are also using Hinge, Tag, Happen, and Facebook. Hardly anything is said about those sites even though the same things happen. Same as meeting girls in the club, if the gringo is a mark then he's a mark no matter where he meets them.
The gentleman below had it right. Tinder should be used like ordering a pizza. Knock on the door and enjoy.
So, we have to ask ourselves how the hell does 5 guys all get drugged at the same time. People think, strength in numbers, wolf pack, the whole team roll as one. Well these girls already knew what time it was. Every Fathers Day or Juneteenth weekend these girls are ready. Everyone is going to get Papaya 4th July weekend since it falls on a Tuesday.
This was Monday.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CtuHHAzA8Nm/?hl=en
They blame Tinder because in the US you expect to get a hookup out of it or a legit date. In Colombia it's used to get hookers. These guys are that ignorant because of the stupid YouTube videos.
Anyone in Laguito? Is the ATM at the end by the Hilton up and running good? It's the only one left in the area.
Anyone in Laguito? Is the ATM at the end by the Hilton up and running good? It's the only one left in the area.Last time I was there I went to this one over where what use to be Exito Express. They changed the name to something new now. Up the steps and walk towards the back.
The ATM was one of the green ones. I can't remember the name but it was Divienda or something like that.
Looks more like they all conspired to just grab what they can and run 🤣129315;. Again. You don't leave out anything you don't mind loosing! Trust none of them! I don't care how innocent or sweet she is.
Elvis 2008
06-25-23, 17:57
If I am looking for high end clubs like Scandallo but don't want to go to SP all the way from US- which one of these 2 cities is a better option? Santa Fe in Bogota seems to be too much of low end SW scene. Never been but just from reading all the posts.
Any info or opinions would be great.
Thanks guys.TS, the best high end clubs in Colombia are in Medellin, La Isla and Face Dos.
There are higher end clubs in North Bogota but honestly the women in them are not better looking than Santa Fe, so you are paying more and not getting anything better. Santa Fe is sketchy but you can take any girl out of the club or off the street for a lot less than the Northern clubs, and I have never had anything happen to me there. I knew an Asian guy who went every day for months and the only issue he had was when he left his drink unattended and got drugged. The majority of women in Santa Fe are not attractive but usually once a night, I would find an 8 or 9 to jump on.
IMO Bogota is probably the best city in the world for women. The Medellin women tended to all be hooker types IMO. The ones I met in Medellin and liked were always from somewhere else and were just there for school.
I have an apartment with my gal in Cartagena and honestly I have not seen near the lookers here I have in Bogota or Medellin.
The reason to come to Cartagena is the weather and beach. Bogota has pollution, high elevation, and horrible traffic. There are some beauties here but you are going to pay a lot for them and the town is much, much smaller than Bogota.
I have always said the way to do Cartagena is to get a woman or preferably women from another city and fly them down here. If you get the right woman or women, you will have the time of your life and almost all the women in Bogota want to go where it is warmer even for a short time.
Mr Enternational
06-25-23, 20:58
I have always said the way to do Cartagena is to get a woman or preferably women from another city and fly them down here. If you get the right woman or women, you will have the time of your life and almost all the women in Bogota want to go where it is warmer even for a short time.If I was going to go that route then I would do San Andres instead. It is cheaper and the beaches are nicer. You don't have all those touts either. Also, a plus for non Spanish speakers, everyone on San Andres speaks English!
Jelly Donut
06-26-23, 00:00
Most girls you meet on the street or in the clubs will know where the love motels are.
The mostly known one is.
HOTEL EL VIAJERO CENTRO.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Mrd1ekRD6E9ycgK6A?g_st=ic
The only sex shop I can recall is when I left Monkey Bar and started walking towards the clocktower. It's on that same street as Monkey Bar before reaching Alquimico but I can't remember the name.
There's another in Bocagrande across from the Intercontinental Shopping mall.Hotel El Porvenir is across the street from Hotel El Viajero and it also works well. My own approach is that I rent a room in either one of those spots, apart from where I'm actually staying. I'm a great believer in decoupling. I tip the staff in both those hotels well; I go there often enough so that makes some sense. I bring my own toys, typically a couple of vibrators, oils and balms, so unfortunately I can't help with sex shops, but I think I saw the one in Bocogrande a couple of months back. I leave the toys in the love motel.
I don't believe you can buy a Shibari Mini Halo Vibrator in Cartagena and I'd recommend you have one. My experience is it's a real hit with most girls and they often ask me to gift it to them, so I expect it might not be available locally. It's a powerful tool and while I've been impressed - sometimes even jealous - with some of the reactions to it, some woman find it's too powerful, so I also bring a GSPY Three-in-one Vibrating Rabbit Vibrator which often works well when a lighter touch is required. If a woman needs the GSPY you are often in for a long session. When I'm on the beach or in the club I pack a AEVEONE Personal Massager Wand as it's a handy way to both give a woman a message and signal to other girls that I believe in happy endings, all around. Of course, the decision to pack these kinds of things is not something everyone here would agree with, but if you think you might share my perspective I'd encourage you to do so.
Sooooo looking forward to being there in a few days. Waking up. Sending a text out to see who's up and can come by for a BJ. Or fucking my girl if she stayed the night. Walking around. Seeing the old city. Getting a coffee here. Ice cream there since it's hot as fuck haha. Eyeing some chicas. Maybe a lunch date with one. Go back to fuck. Walk the beach and chill, have some beers. Scope out more treats. Maybe pick one up. Have some afternoon fun. Then go have dinner with some chick looking baddddd. Take her back. Have fun. Then send her out and go to delerium or dolce hahah.
That's my typical day. Love it!
TummySangs
06-27-23, 01:17
Thank you Elvis. Bogota, it is then. Got spoilt by the amazing service and facilities of Scandallo. But its just too far to travel to for 5 days. So was hoping there is a similar set up 4 hours from Florida. .
TS, the best high end clubs in Colombia are in Medellin, La Isla and Face Dos.
There are higher end clubs in North Bogota but honestly the women in them are not better looking than Santa Fe, so you are paying more and not getting anything better. Santa Fe is sketchy but you can take any girl out of the club or off the street for a lot less than the Northern clubs, and I have never had anything happen to me there. I knew an Asian guy who went every day for months and the only issue he had was when he left his drink unattended and got drugged. The majority of women in Santa Fe are not attractive but usually once a night, I would find an 8 or 9 to jump on.
IMO Bogota is probably the best city in the world for women. The Medellin women tended to all be hooker types IMO. The ones I met in Medellin and liked were always from somewhere else and were just there for school.
I have an apartment with my gal in Cartagena and honestly I have not seen near the lookers here I have in Bogota or Medellin.
The reason to come to Cartagena is the weather and beach. Bogota has pollution, high elevation, and horrible traffic. There are some beauties here but you are going to pay a lot for them and the town is much, much smaller than Bogota.
I have always said the way to do Cartagena is to get a woman or preferably women from another city and fly them down here. If you get the right woman or women, you will have the time of your life and almost all the women in Bogota want to go where it is warmer even for a short time.
I'm a early 40's guy and I love the party mongering popping bottles and having fun. I spend what many consider is overpaying but as long as I have fun I don't care.
However these groups that come in are rude loud and obnoxious and I think they forget the main objective. It's mongering. These are women for sale.
I go to a club have my fun pick out a girl to spend the night with. Negotiate every little detail I want and off we go.
But nowadays these guys that are coming in just making things worse taking the discretion out of everything.
I'm all for guys having a good time. But when you go into places like dolce vita or delirium you're not there to pick up girls. They're all for sale. This drives up prices because girls don't want to deal with this BS. It's already happened in DR and now in Cart. I predict medellin is next cause I'm seeing more and more girls leaving the country to work.
The beach I don't go to.That is where you are wrong not everyone main objective is the women not everyone is a hardcore monger. Last trip in May I came down with six guys age 26-32 all celebrating different things. Main objective was to enjoy ourselves. We did a lot of tourist activities went to regular clubs picked up regular girls and other female tourists. We also went to the beach and all the mongering clubs, bought bottles nightly. If someone liked a chick they would take them out the club. Our Airbnb was stocked with alcohol and other party favors plus a pool so the girls actually enjoyed partying with us and made money while doing so. Some days some guys didn't feel the need to take anyone either from exhaustion or their balls were already drained from other tourist or girls we met. Bottom line is the main objective was to have fun and mongering is just a nice second option. We've done the same things in Mexico, DR and coming up is Thailand.
As far as the girls working out of the Country it's economics. I've been coming to Colombia since 2018 and a large amount of the girls I know have travelled to work. They can simply make more in Europe, Dubai, and Mexico. One of my favorite medellin girls no longer works in Colombia exclusively Panama and Mexico. As much as you want blame groups of guys for this trend it's simply economic factors.
Anddddddddd that's why things are getting ruined for mongering hahahah. You explain it yourself.
Throwing and spending money at a mongering spot is only to get clout. That's it. You want to feel like a big shot and have these girls climb all over.
When are you guys going to learn its business! Yeah these girls may be having fun at the moment. Getting wasted helps even more. But they want their money. They need to pay for that room at the end of the week. They are there to work. Not to get a tan.
Discussing what's happening with friends, it's going to come down to a pimp messing up one of these guys walking around recording. And fucking up a group for not paying. Then things will change. And it's going to happen.
You simply can't argue against it. These groups are terrible for this hobby. Look at the DR.
I really am not going to address the group thing again. Nothing we can do about it. But it's ruining how this hobby was in ctg.
I've been going to Colombia since early 2000's. Never have I had girls respond to me, "you expect everything free like everyone else?" When you're mentioning you're looking for fun. So explain to me why they are asking that.
They ain't your girlfriend, wife, they ain't in love with you, they don't want anything from you except those pesos. Or if your dumb enough, dollar bills.
Respect is what's missing in this world, but that's a whole different rant. That's the difference between those who have been doing this for a while. Compared to those who saw a YouTube video and want to experience what they think they are seeing.
If you're not mongering. Stay out of a mongering spot! These clubs aren't strip clubs. Go elsewhere. Tons of spots. You're going to sit at the stage at a strip club and drink and talk to your friends and not tip the girls? You'll be asked to leave fast. This should be thought of the same way.
That is where you are wrong not everyone main objective is the women not everyone is a hardcore monger. Last trip in May I came down with six guys age 26-32 all celebrating different things. Main objective was to enjoy ourselves. We did a lot of tourist activities went to regular clubs picked up regular girls and other female tourists. We also went to the beach and all the mongering clubs, bought bottles nightly. If someone liked a chick they would take them out the club. Our Airbnb was stocked with alcohol and other party favors plus a pool so the girls actually enjoyed partying with us and made money while doing so. Some days some guys didn't feel the need to take anyone either from exhaustion or their balls were already drained from other tourist or girls we met. Bottom line is the main objective was to have fun and mongering is just a nice second option. We've done the same things in Mexico, DR and coming up is Thailand.
As far as the girls working out of the Country it's economics. I've been coming to Colombia since 2018 and a large amount of the girls I know have travelled to work. They can simply make more in Europe, Dubai, and Mexico. One of my favorite medellin girls no longer works in Colombia exclusively Panama and Mexico. As much as you want blame groups of guys for this trend it's simply economic factors.You got to stop kidding yourself. Ask yourself this question. If Colombia doesn't have beautiful women are you still going to come?
I'm not talking about economics. I could care less how much a girl charges. That's their biz. It's up to me to decide if I want to pay or not or negotiate.
Simply look at the history of DR and CR. Mde and Ctg are next. Especially Ctg.
I've been going to Colombia longer than you at least 7-8 x a year. I can tell you there's a big difference. But hey I always have my fun regardless. But the groups and guys I'm referring to have clearly influenced a lot on Colombia. To say that they haven't it's absolute ignorance.
Anddddddddd that's why things are getting ruined for mongering hahahah. You explain it yourself.
Throwing and spending money at a mongering spot is only to get clout. That's it. You want to feel like a big shot and have these girls climb all over.
When are you guys going to learn its business! Yeah these girls may be having fun at the moment. Getting wasted helps even more. But they want their money. They need to pay for that room at the end of the week. They are there to work. Not to get a tan.
Discussing what's happening with friends, it's going to come down to a pimp messing up one of these guys walking around recording. And fucking up a group for not paying. Then things will change. And it's going to happen.
You simply can't argue against it. These groups are terrible for this hobby. Look at the DR.
I really am not going to address the group thing again. Nothing we can do about it. But it's ruining how this hobby was in ctg..It's okay to move differently. My aim is to have fun and enjoy myself wherever I go. No one designated Cartagena an official mongering destination last time I checked. If that's ruining mongering for I don't know what to tell you. At the end of the day we meet girls have a good time and pay them. I'm not sure what the pushback is about. Yes YouTubers and travel influencers are bad for business other than that I'm not sure what your issue is.
TS, the best high end clubs in Colombia are in Medellin, La Isla and Face Dos.
There are higher end clubs in North Bogota but honestly the women in them are not better looking than Santa Fe, so you are paying more and not getting anything better. Santa Fe is sketchy but you can take any girl out of the club or off the street for a lot less than the Northern clubs, and I have never had anything happen to me there. I knew an Asian guy who went every day for months and the only issue he had was when he left his drink unattended and got drugged. The majority of women in Santa Fe are not attractive but usually once a night, I would find an 8 or 9 to jump on.
IMO Bogota is probably the best city in the world for women. The Medellin women tended to all be hooker types IMO. The ones I met in Medellin and liked were always from somewhere else and were just there for school.
I have an apartment with my gal in Cartagena and honestly I have not seen near the lookers here I have in Bogota or Medellin.
The reason to come to Cartagena is the weather and beach. Bogota has pollution, high elevation, and horrible traffic. There are some beauties here but you are going to pay a lot for them and the town is much, much smaller than Bogota.."IMO Bogota is probably the best city in the world for women".
I'm guessing you haven't been many places round the world LOL.
I just got back a couple of days ago after a Monday to Friday visit and can provide a few observations:
First, I read about the MIG form here, and in case anyone does a search for the form, be aware that the form is free. I noticed a bunch of "Sponsored" sites that as for payment. They are basically a scam. Make sure you go to the government site and fill out the free version (in English if you prefer). It is very easy.
Second, it was fucking hot. It was fucking hot in the daytime and fucking hot in the nighttime. Fucking hot and fucking humid. I am older and despite lots of water and sunscreen the weather got to me, even though I live in southern Florida. Sweating through three shirts a day and feeling chronically exhausted just didn't put me in a mood to fuck. It seems like the average temperature is about the same all year, but my guess is it is much more tolerable in the dry season when the humidity is low. Before I left the forecast was for lightning storms and rain the whole week. As it turns out there was barely a cloud, but as a result the humidity just hung around the whole week.
Third, those who recommended an Airbnb over a "luxury" hotel were 100% correct. Not only did the hotel have a vigilant visitor policy, but I was issues a bracelet at check-in and had to wear it the whole visit. I had a room for two, and they asked whether my companion was with me, I said no, and the receptionist said something like "well, when you meet her she will have to check in." I chose not to check in a companion. As a result, I ended up with 3 girls, one for multiple visits, in their three shitty hotels.
Fourth, the city is a lot of fun. It is basically a tourist party town, and not even primarily US tourists. At this time of year a lot of South Americans come up for their winter vacation. The guy sitting next to me was half my age and a fluent Spanish-speaker, and we ended up going out on the "party bus", which I thought was a blast, and also doing a day trip to Club Bora Bora, which was very nice and ridiculously stupid to do without a hot date. He had an Airbnb, and ended up bringing several groups back to his place long after I was asleep. I will be using his spot for future visits. He was hitting on a variety of civvies with some success. It is very possible if you have game (speaking Spanish helps).
In terms of the girls, the first was 100 K COP off an ad site with a good local review, but looks were below average. Shitty hotel in the Bosque area, which was interesting. Second was a cute Venezuelan who listed 200 K COP, but who ended up at 300 K with oral natural and multiple pops. Her shitty hotel was in Bocagrande not too far from mine, and I ended up seeing her three times based on convenience, looks, and performance. The third was a clock tower pickup around 9 PM. Hot black Colombian chick with a sweet culona. 200 K quickie, plus 60 K for oral natural, in her shitty hotel which was just far enough away from the crowds that I would have bailed if we turned another corner and I didn't see people. I talked with a couple of other chicas in the clock tower area who quoted 300 K. Overall, my impression is that 300 K ($75/ HR) is the going rate, there are plenty of options at that price, and below that price you have to compromise looks or services. I am sure there are exceptions, but that seems to be where the market is. My Venezuelan quoted me $250 per day, or $200 per day for more than 3 days. I didn't discuss longer dates with any other girls, so that is one data point. In terms of the whole clock tower scene, I don't think I was out past 11 the whole trip (the mind was willing but the body was beat, and sometimes the mind wasn't even that willing). Even so, the first night I was there around 7 before the party bus and there were already a few girls out giving me the look. The last night there were probably a dozen girls within a block by 9 at night.
Overall, as an exploratory visit, it was a success. Busted a sufficient number of nuts at an attractive price, and had a good time otherwise. Loved the food and the whole atmosphere. At the same time I definitely could do better with an Airbnb, good hydration and limited sun exposure, and longer dates in better surroundings. I am not a romantic, but I like at least some amenities. I will definitely also pace myself better, stay in the AC during the day, take a siesta, and head out after 10 at least one night to see the clock tower scene in full bloom. For me it is a cheap flight, and given the deplorable state of the hobby in southern Florida I can do a trip for the price of a couple of hour dates here. It may not be as inexpensive or enjoyable as it used to be, but it is still a great destination as far as I am concerned.
Man you must have some giant steel balls going to all these girls places. Your going to walk into the wrong with a few guys waiting to lighten the load of your bank account and pocket.
Man you must have some giant steel balls going to all these girls places. Your going to walk into the wrong with a few guys waiting to lighten the load of your bank account and pocket.Nah. I know how to do research. The clock tower girl was risky but I made sure we didn't go anywhere where there weren't a number of other people visible, and as it happens I didn't have anything worth taking on me other than what I was paying the girl. The others were reviewed and reported to be safe.
SouthernOcean
06-28-23, 14:00
I am headed there the last of July. I usually stay in a hotel and in fact have a reservation at a girl friendly place in Central but would prefer a bigger Airbnb with a kitchen, living room and such. Please PM me with any Airbnbs you recommend that allow guests. Thanks.
I just got back a couple of days ago after a Monday to Friday visit and can provide a few observations:
First, I read about the MIG form here, and in case anyone does a search for the form, be aware that the form is free. I noticed a bunch of "Sponsored" sites that as for payment. They are basically a scam. Make sure you go to the government site and fill out the free version (in English if you prefer). It is very easy.I told this to many people in the WhatsApp groups and other forums and there's always that one "money don't matter to me" or "I'm just going to pay to make it easier" person that comes along and want to argue so I just stop saying anything and let people figure it out even though the website that makes them pay have a disclaimer that says they aren't affiliated.
Second, it was fucking hot. It was fucking hot in the daytime and fucking hot in the nighttime. Fucking hot and fucking humid. I am older and despite lots of water and sunscreen the weather got to me, even though I live in southern Florida. Sweating through three shirts a day and feeling chronically exhausted just didn't put me in a mood to fuck. It seems like the average temperature is about the same all year, but my guess is it is much more tolerable in the dry season when the humidity is low. Before I left the forecast was for lightning storms and rain the whole week. As it turns out there was barely a cloud, but as a result the humidity just hung around the whole week.Yea summer time there don't play. The first time I went there in August I was walking around on the beach no shirt. I had it in my head "I was born in the Caribbean, I'm black, the fuck I need sunscreen for?" Two weeks later I get back state side, my dumb ass is peeling like a potato. I got burned up without even knowing it. That SPF 150 lives in my suitcase now. I learned jajaja.
Third, those who recommended an Airbnb over a "luxury" hotel were 100% correct. Not only did the hotel have a vigilant visitor policy, but I was issues a bracelet at check-in and had to wear it the whole visit. I had a room for two, and they asked whether my companion was with me, I said no, and the receptionist said something like "well, when you meet her she will have to check in." I chose not to check in a companion. As a result, I ended up with 3 girls, one for multiple visits, in their three shitty hotels. Experience is the best teacher, now you know what to do to make your next trip even better.
Fourth, the city is a lot of fun. It is basically a tourist party town, and not even primarily US tourists. At this time of year a lot of South Americans come up for their winter vacation. The guy sitting next to me was half my age and a fluent Spanish-speaker, and we ended up going out on the "party bus", which I thought was a blast, and also doing a day trip to Club Bora Bora, which was very nice and ridiculously stupid to do without a hot date. He had an Airbnb, and ended up bringing several groups back to his place long after I was asleep. I will be using his spot for future visits. He was hitting on a variety of civvies with some success. It is very possible if you have game (speaking Spanish helps).
In terms of the girls, the first was 100 K COP off an ad site with a good local review, but looks were below average. Shitty hotel in the Bosque area, which was interesting. Second was a cute Venezuelan who listed 200 K COP, but who ended up at 300 K with oral natural and multiple pops. Her shitty hotel was in Bocagrande not too far from mine, and I ended up seeing her three times based on convenience, looks, and performance. The third was a clock tower pickup around 9 PM. Hot black Colombian chick with a sweet culona. 200 K quickie, plus 60 K for oral natural, in her shitty hotel which was just far enough away from the crowds that I would have bailed if we turned another corner and I didn't see people. I talked with a couple of other chicas in the clock tower area who quoted 300 K. Overall, my impression is that 300 K ($75/ HR) is the going rate, there are plenty of options at that price, and below that price you have to compromise looks or services. I am sure there are exceptions, but that seems to be where the market is. My Venezuelan quoted me $250 per day, or $200 per day for more than 3 days. I didn't discuss longer dates with any other girls, so that is one data point. In terms of the whole clock tower scene, I don't think I was out past 11 the whole trip (the mind was willing but the body was beat, and sometimes the mind wasn't even that willing). Even so, the first night I was there around 7 before the party bus and there were already a few girls out giving me the look. The last night there were probably a dozen girls within a block by 9 at night.And now you see first hand when people say they only paid "low amount" you got an understanding of why and what they were paying for. Did you do any of the 3 main clubs to see the more in demand females?
Overall, as an exploratory visit, it was a success. Busted a sufficient number of nuts at an attractive price, and had a good time otherwise. Loved the food and the whole atmosphere. At the same time I definitely could do better with an Airbnb, good hydration and limited sun exposure, and longer dates in better surroundings. I am not a romantic, but I like at least some amenities. I will definitely also pace myself better, stay in the AC during the day, take a siesta, and head out after 10 at least one night to see the clock tower scene in full bloom. For me it is a cheap flight, and given the deplorable state of the hobby in southern Florida I can do a trip for the price of a couple of hour dates here. It may not be as inexpensive or enjoyable as it used to be, but it is still a great destination as far as I am concerned.First trip is always tricky but once you know, you know, and now you know.
Mr Enternational
06-29-23, 02:45
The first time I went there in August I was walking around on the beach no shirt. I had it in my head "I was born in the Caribbean, I'm black, the fuck I need sunscreen for?" Two weeks later I get back state side, my dumb ass is peeling like a potato. I got burned up without even knowing it. That SPF 150 lives in my suitcase now. I learned jajaja.Did something happen to us physiologically when we got older or did the atmosphere change? I did not get burned when I was younger but these days it happens very easily. I usually go out into the ocean with a rashguard on now.
Did something happen to us physiologically when we got older or did the atmosphere change? I did not get burned when I was younger but these days it happens very easily. I usually go out into the ocean with a rashguard on now.I'm starting to believe the atmosphere changed because even now when I go back to my home island to visit family I can see the air moving upward like I just opened a hot oven, it was never like this when I was a kid running around the yard bare foot. Now they cracking jokes calling me a Yankee because I'm slapping on sun screen and hardly go out in the day time but I see people darker than me walking around during the daytime with umbrellas over their head.
The sun is no joke around the Equator, its crazy.
Did you do any of the 3 main clubs to see the more in demand females?I was in bed early every night. Just couldn't hang LOL. Next trip I will plan on a siesta in the afternoon and a nap after dinner before going out. I would like to see the scene in all its glory.
I do get a kick out of girls trying to tell me that the normal price is 200 dollars a hour.
I had one girl telling me yesterday a threesome would be 300 dollars each girl or 2 million 400 thousand pesos.
And she assured me I won't find a better price.
I told her baby, this isn't my first trip. It's possibly my 15th. And then nicely told her to get lost.
Some of these girls are dumb as rocks! But just equally so there's a dumbass who saw videos on YouTube and is on his way there to pay that.
My girl who's flying in from Medellin told me yesterday no need to lay over 200 k for any girl during the day. 300, maybe 400 at night if she's a stunner. And this is coming from a stunner that does this work almost full time.
Elvis 2008
06-29-23, 20:19
"IMO Bogota is probably the best city in the world for women".
I'm guessing you haven't been many places round the world LOL.
As far as the best in the world. Mmmm Have you been to PI, Colombia, Brazil, Dubai? Like I said I have never been to HK but I cannot see it topping some of the clubs I have been too in the past and that is just a few countries that I listed (not all). But I'm sure it will pass my test!Dubai has imports. If you are into Russian and Ukrainian women, you can find them in Mexico City for a lot less. https://twitter.com/AlinaRusMex. I do prefer my Latinas but I would put Mexico City at #3. They do not have a strip club scene like other cities.
The OP has been to Brazil. I thought Rio was way overrated. Sao Paulo would probably be my #2 city, but it does not have a low end like Bogota does with Santa Fe.
I have not been to PI. I have been to Thailand. Yes, there are scores of women available and IMO they all looked like they were 14. I actually found Indonesian women more attractive, but I did not monger there.
Europe has some attractive women but the prices are out of control. The places where prices are better, England, Spain, and Portugal, I have not mongered in. Typically, though, European women tend to be distant. Argentine women are friendlier but they are the most distant of the Latin American women. There are abundant attractive women but I only met one I thought who was exceptional in and out of the bedroom. Most of the expats in Argentina prefer Paraguayan women.
Bogota has the low end scene with SF street walkers where you can get laid for $10. Only other country I have seen where you can get that good for that little is Paraguay.
Then you have the active middle scene with the strip clubs and escorts.
There is a good friend of mine, fellow ISGer, he tried Medellin and gave it up, said the women were too stuck up. He went to Santa Fe every day and said he never saw higher than an 8. He grades harsher than I do. I would say I saw three 9's in Santa Fe, but he went to a higher end dance club in Bogota and saw 9's and 10's.
It is that part a monger like yourself has not seen, the upper crust. That is where your jaw drops with Colombia. Only countries in South America I have seen 10's are in Colombia and Brazil and IMO the upper crust of Colombia are nicer, more educated, and harder working than Brazil. These Colombians are often open to Americans especially those who do not find Colombian machismo attractive.
Yeah, you go to a high end boite in Brazil and there are gorgeous women to be found. The same is true with Tijuana in Mexico with Hong Kong but go out of the club and you do not see the same lookers. The wild part about Colombia is the city with the least amount of lookers I have been to has been Cartagena. In other cities, my neck goes into spasm checking out the hotties all around.
So yeah, Bogota is #1. They have it all: attractive and cheap street walkers, low level strip clubs and high end ones, casas, a vibrant escort scene, and an upper crust of hotties that will knock your socks off. And best of all if you get one of these Colombian women to really like you, they will literally do anything for you. In his report of distinction, Routard touched on it in the Bogota section. There is nothing like a Colombian woman.
I do get a kick out of girls trying to tell me that the normal price is 200 dollars a hour.
I had one girl telling me yesterday a threesome would be 300 dollars each girl or 2 million 400 thousand pesos.
And she assured me I won't find a better price.
I told her baby, this isn't my first trip. It's possibly my 15th. And then nicely told her to get lost.
Some of these girls are dumb as rocks! But just equally so there's a dumbass who saw videos on YouTube and is on his way there to pay that.
My girl who's flying in from Medellin told me yesterday no need to lay over 200 k for any girl during the day. 300, maybe 400 at night if she's a stunner. And this is coming from a stunner that does this work almost full time.Girls in Cart and Mde that are universally hot ain't taking 200 mil.
I've been going to mde for 6 years and at least 7-8 x a year.
The top tier girls have their targeted clientele.
Dolce Vita and Delirium girls are charging 100 $ usd he 300 $usd tln.
Gustos girls in mde are even asking 300 usd for an hour.
Guys are paying it and that's how with anything in life. My issue is they're asking for more and only willing to do much less.
Any girl who is actually hot knows they're hot with the attention they get and their history of guys paying them a certain amount. That's how it goes for these girls.
ChuchoLoco
06-29-23, 21:22
I do get a kick out of girls trying to tell me that the normal price is 200 dollars a hour.
I had one girl telling me yesterday a threesome would be 300 dollars each girl or 2 million 400 thousand pesos.
And she assured me I won't find a better price.
I told her baby, this isn't my first trip. It's possibly my 15th. And then nicely told her to get lost.
Some of these girls are dumb as rocks! But just equally so there's a dumbass who saw videos on YouTube and is on his way there to pay that.
My girl who's flying in from Medellin told me yesterday no need to lay over 200 k for any girl during the day. 300, maybe 400 at night if she's a stunner. And this is coming from a stunner that does this work almost full time.I use this reply. I don't think many or any use it but it's funny and gets the point across. In Spanish: eso será cuando la rana heche pelo. It means, that will happen when the frog grows hair.
Who has been to the original dolce vita!? I went when I was young. Before I knew about all this. Was a work convention. Was with a bunch of older guys. I really didn't know what we were at until years later when I figured it all out 🤣. Thought it was just hot easy girls every where 🤣. I was early 20's hahaha. I mean I knew some girls were haha. But not all! Just blew my mind when I realized. And the went back 🤣.
I feel every country / city for this hobby is uniqe. There are comparisons but none are the same. In ctg they are just everywhere. Sitting at El Mulle and two hot girls walk by and proposition you is just a beautiful thing. Even if you choose no they still have a beer and flirt.
SouthernOcean
06-30-23, 13:36
Have any of you guys used the City of Love escort site for daytime women. They list mostly from Lacelestina but they have prices and services. Wondering if they are reliable or bait and switch. Also still wondering about a guest friendly Airbnb close to the Tower.
So yeah, Bogota is #1. They have it all: attractive and cheap street walkers, low level strip clubs and high end ones, casas, a vibrant escort scene, and an upper crust of hotties that will knock your socks off. And best of all if you get one of these Colombian women to really like you, they will literally do anything for you. In his report of distinction, Routard touched on it in the Bogota section. There is nothing like a Colombian woman.Where do you find the upper crust??
Websites for girls 🙄 that was the fun of Cartagena. The hunt. They are everywhere. Yes I use tinder, but that's a hey let's meet for a quicky.
Go find them. Hunt them down at the beach. Walking around. The options are endless.
The OP has been to Brazil. I thought Rio was way overrated. Sao Paulo would probably be my #2 city, but it does not have a low end like Bogota does with Santa Fe.
Oh it definitely does. You obviously just don't know it.
I don't post about it, cause I don't want it invaded. LOL.
Sooooo ready to be there soon. I've asked before but no feedback. Anyone ever use the Hom or luxury men's spa? Not honestly looking for a quality massage 🤣. More like the idea of getting a tug in the middle of the day and then going to have a nice lunch 🤣.
I'm sure they both offer happy endings or even full service.
I'm ready! This trip will be a mix of taking down a 10 for dinner and fun. To taking a quicky from the beach or wherever I find her. I've got plans my first night with what looks like a 10 to me. Come over. Fuck first. Go for dinner. Drinks. Then fuck some more. She claims I'll be empty after. . I told her I'll see her at space later🤣129315;.
Sooooo ready to be there soon. I've asked before but no feedback. Anyone ever use the Hom or luxury men's spa? Not honestly looking for a quality massage 🤣. More like the idea of getting a tug in the middle of the day and then going to have a nice lunch 🤣.
I'm sure they both offer happy endings or even full service.
I'm ready! This trip will be a mix of taking down a 10 for dinner and fun. To taking a quicky from the beach or wherever I find her. I've got plans my first night with what looks like a 10 to me. Come over. Fuck first. Go for dinner. Drinks. Then fuck some more. She claims I'll be empty after. . I told her I'll see her at space later🤣129315;.Two of my chicas told me recently there's a wave of new ugly girls, that are flooding Centro because they closed a club in Cartagena.
I asked the first chica why is she mad, the new girls are ugly so they can't compete. She says they are asking for little money and undercutting the prettier ones asking for $100.
I asked the second chica the same question. She said they aren't letting those girls into the clubs so they are walking the Clocktower area and gringos see them first before making it into the clubs. So the ugly girls gets picked first. I guess some don't care, a nuts a nut I guess LOL.
I asked them both which club closed and they said it was one outside the walls. I'm guessing it was Chica Linda but I have to compile more boots on the ground info before I can confirm.
Best of luck.
Mr Enternational
07-04-23, 23:35
Two of my chicas told me recently there's a wave of new ugly girls, that are flooding Centro because they closed a club in Cartagena.
I asked the first chica why is she mad, the new girls are ugly so they can't compete. She says they are asking for little money and undercutting the prettier ones asking for $100.You should have told them because you know $100 is too damn much anyway. And are the new chicks really ugly or is that jealousy talking?
Where do you find the upper crust??In the context of what Elvis was posting about (Bogota), the night clubs in North Bogota. Lido's the best known. The hottest women I came across were in Lalo, also known as Porky's, but I believe that one shut down.
Yes chica Linda was closed. That's why an increase of girls in the clock tower. And yeah the girls from Medellin and elsewhere are bitching because these girls know 100 is too much. That's what I posted below my chica was telling me. Sure a girl is going to ask 100. You going to tell someone no you can do the job for less? Negotiate and haggle!
Mr Enternational
07-05-23, 13:20
Sure a girl is going to ask 100. You going to tell someone no you can do the job for less? Negotiate and haggle!Unfortunately for them, many guys see this as a romantic interaction instead of the business that it is, and are afraid the hooker would be turned off or they would lose her should they try to negotiate. I am used to rocking the boat with chicks that are not hookers, so I will be damn if I care about swaying it with a chick I am paying.
When you guys pick up girls on the beach where do you take them for action?
When you guys pick up girls on the beach where do you take them for action?I only picked up from around Kiosk #4 when I'm staying in El Laguito and I take them back to my AirBB since its a quick 5 minute walk.
Plametto Sunset and Pamatteo Beach also had good daytime guest policies with the Airbnb's there. That's about 10 minutes walk in that heat.
You should have told them because you know $100 is too damn much anyway. And are the new chicks really ugly or is that jealousy talking?First chica sent me 2 pictures and those girls looked like they just rolled out of bed in a night gown and went to walk the street. It was rough. She ill ask her to send more pictures without the 1 time view restriction whatsapp forced a while back, all the girls using that by default now so you can't keep the pictures.
Mr Enternational
07-05-23, 20:18
She ill ask her to send more pictures without the 1 time view restriction whatsapp forced a while back, all the girls using that by default now so you can't keep the pictures.Yeah that is why I always have my tablet ready to take a picture of my phone. That shit don't stop the show.
Will in Cartagena next week and feel free to forward any tips on my way.
Was strongly advised not to visit due to price, current climate, other etc. But why not see it for myself.
After going through few pages, the gameplan is pretty much playa Hollywood beach for daytime and clock tower, Dolce, Space, and Dellium during night time action.
Wanted to know if there is entry charges for these nightclub and what to look out for.
And, any recommdation for touristy staff as read some report on Getsemani as well.
If anyone is around next week, send me the DM.
There it is. Well put from a person who's been around. It's being treated as a romantic fling instead of a business transaction which it is.
They are going to try! Who wouldn't. Had a girl from tinder yesterday tell me 300 dollars. I laughed. I said honey this isn't my first time in Cartagena. I'll give you 300 mil pesos. She told me how she got it before. I said good. They are stupid. They spend money they don't really have and back at home they live they same as you girls in Colombia.
After ignoring her for about a hour she said 300 mil would work, that it's just a negotiation, don't get upset 🤣.
Haggle. Even if they walk away. There are literally 100 more at-least. You see her again a hour later, I bet you she will budge. They are there to workkkkkkkkk not to hang out and party. Bills need to be paid baby!.
I only picked up from around Kiosk #4 when I'm staying in El Laguito and I take them back to my AirBB since its a quick 5 minute walk.
Plametto Sunset and Pamatteo Beach also had good daytime guest policies with the Airbnb's there. That's about 10 minutes walk in that heat.Thanks for this. Picking up chicks at the beach is killing 2 birds with one stone. Relaxing by the sea and banging hot chicas.
There it is. Well put from a person who's been around. It's being treated as a romantic fling instead of a business transaction which it is.
They are going to try! Who wouldn't. Had a girl from tinder yesterday tell me 300 dollars. I laughed. I said honey this isn't my first time in Cartagena. I'll give you 300 mil pesos. She told me how she got it before. I said good. They are stupid. They spend money they don't really have and back at home they live they same as you girls in Colombia.
After ignoring her for about a hour she said 300 mil would work, that it's just a negotiation, don't get upset 🤣.
Haggle. Even if they walk away. There are literally 100 more at-least. You see her again a hour later, I bet you she will budge. They are there to workkkkkkkkk not to hang out and party. Bills need to be paid baby!.I'm always somewhat reluctant to session girls who ask that high a price. If she accepts 1/3 of her asking price I'd be concerned about her performance. Do let us know how your session with that Tinder babe went.
RamDavidson84
07-06-23, 17:20
Will in Cartagena next week and feel free to forward any tips on my way.
Was strongly advised not to visit due to price, current climate, other etc. But why not see it for myself.
After going through few pages, the gameplan is pretty much playa Hollywood beach for daytime and clock tower, Dolce, Space, and Dellium during night time action.
Wanted to know if there is entry charges for these nightclub and what to look out for.
And, any recommdation for touristy staff as read some report on Getsemani as well.
If anyone is around next week, send me the DM.Must Haves for Cartagena.
1. Must have Airbnb you can bring girls back to.
2. Taxi to clubs if you can. Go into clubs, get numbers, get out. Time spent in the clubs is a waste and the clubs really are not that fun because they are usually so packed you can't move and the AC isn't great. Girls will be quick to give you their numbers.
3. Once you have the numbers, invite girls back to your Airbnb. Make sure you vet the girls and chica-proof the room.
This is how Cartagena needs to be done. The more you stroll around Cartagena and hang around the clocktower and the clubs, the more trouble and annoyance you will be asking for.
Guys I'm here now. I don't claim to have game or be Rico suave. No problem getting quality 300 k.
Guys I'm here now. I don't claim to have game or be Rico suave. No problem getting quality 300 k.Remember quality is subjective. Whats good to you may be trash to another. Thats what makes these price paid for what woman extremely vague as most people will say what they are getting but won't show what they are getting and I fully understand who some are reluctant to post pics of the chicas they are getting for these prices.
Sosua have thought me not to post the chicas I'm with and for what price as another gringo or worse a hater can just come along and fuck my shit up just for laughs.
Will in Cartagena next week and feel free to forward any tips on my way.
Was strongly advised not to visit due to price, current climate, other etc. But why not see it for myself.
After going through few pages, the gameplan is pretty much playa Hollywood beach for daytime and clock tower, Dolce, Space, and Dellium during night time action.
Wanted to know if there is entry charges for these nightclub and what to look out for.
And, any recommdation for touristy staff as read some report on Getsemani as well.
If anyone is around next week, send me the DM.Price can be a factor. I know airfare for me round trip from the east coast is $800 straight flight. The girls, well for me it varies since I have a history with allot of them so it ranges from roundtrip cab fare to 400 K for the night, anything over that and I walk away. If your a newbie they will try and upcharge you.
There is no charge to enter the clubs but, Dolce does randomly pull some bullshit where they don't like to let specific people in unless they buy a bottle / table, but that's if you are looking for girls who are tons of plastic and zero personality just standing around. No cover charge on Space but the girls are a mixture of everything and I do mean everything from big to old to young and slim and if you want to sit then you have to buy the table. I usually stay far away from the door and far from the bar as I like to see who's coming into the club and when they start that nonsense of dancing on the bar wearing ski masks no one can have an oops moment and spill their dink on me, it also helps prevent random people from putting their empty drinks on my table or sitting on my arm rest. Delirium, No cover charge to get in but once you get in, well lets just say if you don't have that hip hop / Rap look then it just going to be awkward as fuck not blending in, and if you're not a smoker that hookah smoke will take you out as that place is too small for all them peoples trying to floss with multiple hookahs at a single table.
As for touristy shit, don't be me. I fell for that big ass ATV advert while standing on the immigration line. Ended up going all the way to Manzanillo for an ATV tour on a dirty ass local beach and a free coconut. The food was terrible at Playa Manzanillo as well, no touts but the stray dogs took their place, just as annoying. As for Getsemani, if you want local and tourist mixture head to Plaza de la Trinidad around 9 pm and hang out there. There is a specific street, Callejand Ancho you can check out, but I would not recommend being there solo looking lost and lonely, bring a chica with you so you can sit, drink and take it all in. I normally stay in an AirBB that's on this street with private pool so the local party is at my doorstep and then I can take it back to the pool with the chicas in 30 seconds. There is also a hostel there so many working girls will be there from time to time before going to Centro, not getting anything from Centro, or after they made enough from Centro. Theres a free walking tour, look for the yellow umbrella, admire the art work and take in the local culture that tell the story of the people and hot they came to be. Local clubs are also there, I only frequent Taboo, I haven't been to the others in a while but it great, they give you seats and leave you alone, just how I like it. I can never stop recommending El Cabildo Gastromar, if your hungry just go there but don't drink the Papaya drink unless you want to be shitting liquid for the next 3 days, I had 2 Papaya drinks one day and I learned to just stick to the lemonado de coco.
If you want a good currency rate exchange head to the Cambrio next to El Bar tico in Getsemeni. There are 3 of them. Check each one, the ones in Centro will give you a little less, just a little.
Also be careful of the girls in Centro, there are some who are under 18 mixed in with the working girls, they look like they are in their 20's but it can jam you up real good with the cops so always check ID.
Ill be there next month for a few weeks.
Enjoy your trip!
Must Haves for Cartagena.
1. Must have Airbnb you can bring girls back to.
2. Taxi to clubs if you can. Go into clubs, get numbers, get out. Time spent in the clubs is a waste and the clubs really are not that fun because they are usually so packed you can't move and the AC isn't great. Girls will be quick to give you their numbers.
3. Once you have the numbers, invite girls back to your Airbnb. Make sure you vet the girls and chica-proof the room.
This is how Cartagena needs to be done. The more you stroll around Cartagena and hang around the clocktower and the clubs, the more trouble and annoyance you will be asking for.This seems to be good advice. I've never been to Cartagena but liking what I read and see about Hollywood beach. So Airbnb near Hollywood beach seems a good plan.
OldSchool318
07-07-23, 20:31
This seems to be good advice. I've never been to Cartagena but liking what I read and see about Hollywood beach. So Airbnb near Hollywood beach seems a good plan.I don't bother with the clubs as they are not my scene.
However, I spent hours at the tower just talking to all the girls and got plenty of numbers. Sometimes I walked around there for quite a long time.
One of my favorite parts about being a monger is that there is no exact way just whatever way works.
Its hard to avoid the Clock tower scene when in Cartagena. I usually go at night by myself and get numbers. Theres alot of corrupt cops, drugs and petty criminals so stay off the radar.
Must Haves for Cartagena.
1. Must have Airbnb you can bring girls back to.
This is how Cartagena needs to be done. The more you stroll around Cartagena and hang around the clocktower and the clubs, the more trouble and annoyance you will be asking for.Thanks for your feedback. Took me days to find visitor friendly Airbnb and will see how it goes.
If you want a good currency rate exchange head to the Cambrio next to El Bar tico in Getsemeni. There are 3 of them. Check each one, the ones in Centro will give you a little less, just a little.
Ill be there next month for a few weeks.
Enjoy your trip!Thanks for your feedback as well. Isn't there ATM available? I use Davivienda exclusively.
I spend most of my trips in the DR (love It). Going to give Carte a run for my money. I have read some of this forum and find it very helpful. The DR room is being over run by guys looking for 20 dollar pussy. I have been impressed by the quality of the reporting and the tenor of the reports. I do have a few questions. Can sex pills be purchased over the counter. I will be going with a friend who has spent time there. I like being a lone wolf but for my 1st trip having a wingman should be a big help. I am a big fan of Sosua but the quality is not what it once was. I will be spending time at the clock tower I think. How would you guys rate the talent as compared to Sosua. In my 60s now and not as particular as I once was.
I spend most of my trips in the DR (love It). Going to give Carte a run for my money. I have read some of this forum and find it very helpful. The DR room is being over run by guys looking for 20 dollar pussy. I have been impressed by the quality of the reporting and the tenor of the reports. I do have a few questions. Can sex pills be purchased over the counter. I will be going with a friend who has spent time there. I like being a lone wolf but for my 1st trip having a wingman should be a big help. I am a big fan of Sosua but the quality is not what it once was. I will be spending time at the clock tower I think. How would you guys rate the talent as compared to Sosua. In my 60s now and not as particular as I once was.Talent is subjective. In my view I find 1 in 20 working girls in Sosua reasonably attractive (most of those attractive fall into 5 to 6 on my imaginary scale). I find 1 in 10 working girls in Cartagena reasonably attractive (most of those attractive fall into 6 to 7 on my imaginary scale). Don't know the answer to the first question, but touts offer pills at the Clock Tower.
I do have a few questions. Can sex pills be purchased over the counter. Yes. Pharmacies sell Viagra, Cialis, etc. Without a prescription. But it is not cheap. Also antibiotics without a prescription. Cheaper sex pills come from India, try Canadian Pharmacy online, but you need a prescription which can be fake and work.
MongerHunger
07-10-23, 06:56
I spend most of my trips in the DR (love It). Going to give Carte a run for my money. I have read some of this forum and find it very helpful. The DR room is being over run by guys looking for 20 dollar pussy. I have been impressed by the quality of the reporting and the tenor of the reports. I do have a few questions. Can sex pills be purchased over the counter. I will be going with a friend who has spent time there. I like being a lone wolf but for my 1st trip having a wingman should be a big help. I am a big fan of Sosua but the quality is not what it once was. I will be spending time at the clock tower I think. How would you guys rate the talent as compared to Sosua. In my 60s now and not as particular as I once was.Yes you can purchase those pills over the counter at the pharmacies. Don't forget to check out the Daytime Action at Hollywood Beach in Bocagrande. IMO the girls in Cartagena are better than the girls in Sosua by sheer numbers, variety, looks and service.
There has been quite a few post on this thread about guys from Sosua coming to Cartagena with ghetto behavior. The consensus was that it's unwelcomed.
I spend most of my trips in the DR (love It). Going to give Carte a run for my money. I have read some of this forum and find it very helpful. The DR room is being over run by guys looking for 20 dollar pussy. I have been impressed by the quality of the reporting and the tenor of the reports. I do have a few questions. Can sex pills be purchased over the counter. I will be going with a friend who has spent time there. I like being a lone wolf but for my 1st trip having a wingman should be a big help. I am a big fan of Sosua but the quality is not what it once was. I will be spending time at the clock tower I think. How would you guys rate the talent as compared to Sosua. In my 60s now and not as particular as I once was.Damn. I hear what you saying about Sosua, when I stopped going them girls was eating way too good so the weight gain was crazy! And I understand what you mean about the fellow mongers there, the constant outdated information they get from the old heads in their glory days make them think the box there is $20 or $40 of you over paying.
As for CTG, I don't even know what to recommend, you're twice my age and I don't touch anything over 25. The last time I went there with someone in their 40's it was such a struggle as they kept looking for older women in their 30's and when we ran into them they look like mother of 5, mad tired like the whole world on their back.
Compared to Sosua the girls are more put together but I don't know if you looking for the hip hop chicks or salsa ones because you will catch quite a few walking around with Yankee Fitteds on just like Sosua and the fake long box braids just like Sosua as that type of culture is slowly making it's way there.
Depending on what you looking for I can suggest something but take note most of the girls currently in my circle are Afro Colombian.
What a great trip!
First off, nothing in that city changes 🤣. Haven't been there in a solid year. Not a single thing has changed.
Clock tower still popping, girls there starting as early as 8. But not good until 10.
Or later. Plenty of girls in the clubs. Yes they try to ask 100 $ or 120. I flat out just say baby I'm in Colombia. I have pesos.
I paid 300 k for most girls. 2 leches. Two girls I gave 400 k they were stunners.
The girl that wanted 300 $ took 300 k and we had an amazing time. She explained to me she has to try. Haha and I agreed with her that she has to try hahah.
Found 2 super sexy girls walking around Laguito and working. They were just everywhere. Took taxi everywhere and had zero issue.
Felt like I was getting asked less to buy shit constantly.
Just negotiate guys. Have fun. I took down 6 different chicas. 2 chicas I saw multiple times. Never paid to hang out. Only for leche. Ha.
I am older so the 30 plus girls have an appeal to me. In the DR you can fine part time working girls trying to get quick cash in that range. I am not expecting GFE in CTG. The tower area will provide excellent sport fucking I am sure. Thanks for the responses big help.
Damn. I hear what you saying about Sosua, when I stopped going them girls was eating way too good so the weight gain was crazy! And I understand what you mean about the fellow mongers there, the constant outdated information they get from the old heads in their glory days make them think the box there is $20 or $40 of you over paying.
As for CTG, I don't even know what to recommend, you're twice my age and I don't touch anything over 25. The last time I went there with someone in their 40's it was such a struggle as they kept looking for older women in their 30's and when we ran into them they look like mother of 5, mad tired like the whole world on their back.
Compared to Sosua the girls are more put together but I don't know if you looking for the hip hop chicks or salsa ones because you will catch quite a few walking around with Yankee Fitteds on just like Sosua and the fake long box braids just like Sosua as that type of culture is slowly making it's way there.
Depending on what you looking for I can suggest something but take note most of the girls currently in my circle are Afro Colombian.
Philly Dogg111
07-10-23, 18:31
What a great trip!
First off, nothing in that city changes 🤣. Haven't been there in a solid year. Not a single thing has changed.
Clock tower still popping, girls there starting as early as 8. But not good until 10.
Or later. Plenty of girls in the clubs. Yes they try to ask 100 $ or 120. I flat out just say baby I'm in Colombia. I have pesos.
I paid 300 k for most girls. 2 leches. Two girls I gave 400 k they were stunners.
The girl that wanted 300 $ took 300 k and we had an amazing time. She explained to me she has to try. Haha and I agreed with her that she has to try hahah.
Found 2 super sexy girls walking around Laguito and working. They were just everywhere. Took taxi everywhere and had zero issue.
Felt like I was getting asked less to buy shit constantly.
Just negotiate guys. Have fun. I took down 6 different chicas. 2 chicas I saw multiple times. Never paid to hang out. Only for leche. Ha.Did you see Tony?? Any beach action. Where did you Stay?
Mr Enternational
07-10-23, 19:02
Yes. Pharmacies sell Viagra, Cialis, etc. Without a prescription. But it is not cheap.That is why you get generic. It is cheap. I was in a pharmacy in Santa Marta and the pharmacist said Durax was buy one box get one free. It was nowhere near the price on this ad. It was like $25 for a box of 28 plus a free box of 28. I sell them for $10 each so I made a nice profit.
Mr Enternational
07-10-23, 19:22
I spend most of my trips in the DR (love It). Going to give Carte a run for my money. I am a big fan of Sosua but the quality is not what it once was. How would you guys rate the talent as compared to Sosua. All these years me and Old Kool have been arguing back and forth; me saying how Sosua has gone way down hill and him saying it is the best thing since sliced bread. I have always said that you believe that because you have not been other places and you did not see how Sosua was before you started going. Now seems he is getting the picture saying the quality is not what it once was. If he had seen the quality and prices when I started going then he would have left that place alone a long time ago.
That said, my first time to Cartagena I was amazed at how much more expensive the place is in comparison to the rest of the country. That is for girls, accommodation, and anything else. Not to mention all the sharks out for blood from tourists.
This is the place I stay in in Bogota for $30/ night with free breakfast. My first time in Cartagena I was staying in some rinky dink hotel with old classroom furniture for $80.
Thanks for your feedback. Took me days to find visitor friendly Airbnb and will see how it goes.
Thanks for your feedback as well. Isn't there ATM available? I use Davivienda exclusively.I don't really use the ATMs but if that's the Green one I think one is in El Laguito in the open area. Rzrfl69 Is currently in CTG so maybe they can confirm if that ATM is still there and if it's the green one.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Hx4zP3T77waMJYPU9?g_st=ic
I know there is the ScoitaBank ATM (red one or was it gray?) in the bank by the bus stop next to the multi level xito in centro as well.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/JYRcQa9McouHkoZf7?g_st=ic
SouthernOcean
07-11-23, 01:51
How much does Cialis cost there?
Does anyone know if Pley club is closed or not since getting mixed information while searching.
And, El Paraiso is considered high end club??
I was in Sosua back in the day and it was awesome. It is still very good. It is affordable and easy to move around. I am sure I will enjoy Colombia but the ease of moving in Sosua will be hard to match. True the women may be more attractive but a nut is a nut. I have no problem finding women who meet my requirements in Sosua. I have heard great things about Colombia and will give it a try.
All these years me and Old Kool have been arguing back and forth; me saying how Sosua has gone way down hill and him saying it is the best thing since sliced bread. I have always said that you believe that because you have not been other places and you did not see how Sosua was before you started going. Now seems he is getting the picture saying the quality is not what it once was. If he had seen the quality and prices when I started going then he would have left that place alone a long time ago.
That said, my first time to Cartagena I was amazed at how much more expensive the place is in comparison to the rest of the country. That is for girls, accommodation, and anything else. Not to mention all the sharks out for blood from tourists.
This is the place I stay in in Bogota for $30/ night with free breakfast. My first time in Cartagena I was staying in some rinky dink hotel with old classroom furniture for $80.
I used the ATM right in front of the Hilton. Was red I think.
If you're staying in a hotel, not an airbnb, where do you guys bang the hot chicas?
Here are some hotels I know to be guest friendly without trying to charge a price. This is current as of March my list trip. In El Centro, you have Soy Loca, Casa Noir, Ethnic Thematic, and Hotel El Viarejo. In Boccagrade you have Oz Hotel, Oz Luxury Hotel, and Hotel Blue Concept. I personally recommend the Oz Hotel it comes with complimentary breakfast.
Here are some hotels I know to be guest friendly without trying to charge a price. This is current as of March my list trip. In El Centro, you have Soy Loca, Casa Noir, Ethnic Thematic, and Hotel El Viarejo. In Boccagrade you have Oz Hotel, Oz Luxury Hotel, and Hotel Blue Concept. I personally recommend the Oz Hotel it comes with complimentary breakfast.I'm wondering about the Oz Luxury hotel. In this video it is described as the best hotel for families in Cartagena. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW9GImjj_KY.
I'm wondering about the Oz Luxury hotel. In this video it is described as the best hotel for families in Cartagena. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW9GImjj_KY.I myself have not stayed at the Luxury but I know from other mongers that its guest friendly. I will say that Oz is an odd mix of mongers and people on vacation. Its pretty funny when you bring a pro in to sign in and a family checking in right behind you.
Dubai has imports. If you are into Russian and Ukrainian women, you can find them in Mexico City for a lot less. https://twitter.com/AlinaRusMex.
The OP has been to Brazil. I thought Rio was way overrated. Sao Paulo would probably be my #2 city, but it does not have a low end like Bogota does with Santa Fe.
.Sao Paulo has low end very low end, than goes mid range to very high end.
You just don't know where to look. They got cheap street walkers all over the clubbing area hot spots including Pinheiros to Liberdade. I went out clubbing with civvies down there. The street walkers were everywhere on Friday and Saturday. They got low end casas like Tangara and the freelancer escort sites like Photoacompanhantes hot freelancers charge only 120 BRL in house.
So, we have to ask ourselves how the hell does 5 guys all get drugged at the same time. People think, strength in numbers, wolf pack, the whole team roll as one. Well these girls already knew what time it was. Every Fathers Day or Juneteenth weekend these girls are ready. Everyone is going to get Papaya 4th July weekend since it falls on a Tuesday.
This was Monday.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CtuHHAzA8Nm/?hl=enYou got to be fuckin stupid to get scoped, much less with 4 of your buddies. Smh.
If I am looking for high end clubs like Scandallo but don't want to go to SP all the way from US- which one of these 2 cities is a better option? Santa Fe in Bogota seems to be too much of low end SW scene. Never been but just from reading all the posts.
Any info or opinions would be great.
Thanks guys.Pre pandemic La Isla had stunners that could compete with Scandallo. Those days are long gone and a distant memory. Just temper your expectations. I've been mongering in Colombia since 2014 and now go mostly to Sao Paulo and Rio. Occasionally hit up Medellin and Cartagena.
I'm in Bogota right now and thinking of visiting Cartagena on Monday and Tuesday. Not having any luck finding guest friendly Airbnb's. Any recommendations?
HumpyDumpty11
08-01-23, 19:13
I want to love this place because of course the ladies on the beach.
Absolutely cannot stand the touts, but for the ladies I can stomach it.
Except. Every time I have gone to Hollywood I have not found the selection to be that great. I expected each time for some reason that there would be super ladies in hot thongs and mostly I have only seen 5 and 6's and I am not picky at all, I have seen Tony, s book but I don't want the touts working for me. For me my favorite part of mongering is the hunt.
I have fucked off this beach before and I never paid more than 200 k with tips and actually had good experiences but I feel like the quality is so so.
Am I wrong? Have why'all found some mega hotties? Maybe I just showed up on the wrong days but I have been quite a few different days.I had girls tell me they know they can find clients on the beach, but they don't go cause they don't want to get dark. Now this was normally the white chicas or light chicas. I had one chica tell me she's allergic to so much sun that you'd find at the beach. But not many like the beach. Some told me they like to show up close to closing time and catch the guys on the way out. And some just go to the restaurants around El Laguito to catch someone's eye while at the restaurant there.
AcesOnTheRiver
08-02-23, 00:24
Currently in CTG now; I come here twice a year for the last 8 years, but I think I'm done. I've never seen so many stuck up, entitled, overcharging working girls in my life ever here in Colombia. In my 3 nights here, I must have approached 15 girls between space and LDV and the alleys. I requested 3 hours, party with drinks penthouse jacuzzi, etc, and 2 leches. Literally EVERY SINGLE ONE, started with 300 or 350 USD! Not one girl starts in pesos. Like wtf LOL- even girls who I known for years have raised their prices 50% and also talk in dollars which never used to happen, I think the working girls unionized. Out of my friends desperation, one working girl turned down $500 for all night and all day the next day for boat day (not even the second night) - she needed 700 USD lmfao-.
Smh Brazil it is, now it's similar cost wise, but 10 X nicer girls and better service. Peace out CTG, it's been real.
Mr Enternational
08-02-23, 04:32
Currently in CTG now; I come here twice a year for the last 8 years, but I think I'm done. I've never seen so many stuck up, entitled, overcharging working girls in my life ever here in Colombia. Funny that it has taken you 16 trips in 8 years to realize what I first saw there on trip 1 maybe 10 years or so ago.
Its my first time in Colombia, and I had a bit of a noob question. Is there an escort agency, or a specific quality casa that I can go to? I'm happy to pay a bit of a premium for the right girl, but hoping for a safe / low friction experience! Would rather not go to the clubs to find someone.
AcesOnTheRiver
08-02-23, 10:18
Currently in CTG now; I come here twice a year for the last 8 years, but I think I'm done. I've never seen so many stuck up, entitled, overcharging working girls in my life ever here in Colombia. In my 3 nights here, I must have approached 15 girls between space and LDV and the alleys. I requested 3 hours, party with drinks penthouse jacuzzi, etc, and 2 leches. Literally EVERY SINGLE ONE, started with 300 or 350 USD! Not one girl starts in pesos. Like wtf LOL- even girls who I known for years have raised their prices 50% and also talk in dollars which never used to happen, I think the working girls unionized. Out of my friends desperation, one working girl turned down $500 for all night and all day the next day for boat day (not even the second night) - she needed 700 USD lmfao-.
Smh Brazil it is, now it's similar cost wise, but 10 X nicer girls and better service. Peace out CTG, it's been real.Update: today, I approached a girl in LDV who i had my eye on for like 10-15 min, literally said "hola bebe tu quieres bebir" (I'm not sure that's correct spanish, but whatever). She literally replied to my question with: "baby, I charge 180 per hour" LMFAOOOOOOOOOO, legit getting over this place jajajajja- I don't know what it is! I weigh 175,5'10" and come freshly showered in pants and a polo every single night hahaha. Assuming it can't be me, just some crazy ass chicks man smh.
Also, never seen the streets or clubs so empty after 2 am compared to my previous visits, granted it is a Tuesday, but still- same story yesterday. Advice:
close your deal by 1:00 am if you can
its not like before for sure
Mr Enternational
08-02-23, 14:54
I come here twice a year for the last 8 years, but I think I'm done. I've never seen so many stuck up, entitled, overcharging working girls in my life ever here in Colombia.It took you 16 trips to learn what I realized my first time in Cartagena about 10 years ago.
AcesOnTheRiver
08-02-23, 16:29
It took you 16 trips to learn what I realized my first time in Cartagena about 10 years ago.Yea true, but 2015 was my first time overall. And in comparison to other places I visited, cancun, Cuba, DR, Puerto Rico, panama, Costa Rica, for me, Colombia was always king on its own level, incomparable to those other spots. Until I visited Brazil last year. But now I'm woke LOL. need to try SEA finally i guess
Mr Enternational
08-02-23, 17:52
And in comparison to other places I visited, cancun, Cuba, DR, Puerto Rico, panama, Costa Rica, for me, Colombia was always king on its own level, incomparable to those other spots.I had been to many other Colombian cities before going to Cartagena, so when I got there I was like WTF. Why is this place so much more expensive than the rest of Colombia? Even my first time in San Andres I was expecting it to be as or more expensive than Cartagena being that it is an island. I was surprised that it was actually way cheaper. I am in Leticia right now and I think this is the cheapest place I have been to in Colombia. Yesterday me and my girl had a fish combo for 10,000 each that normally goes for 35,000 in Bogota. See you in Thailand! I have been paying freelancers from the discos $30 for the night for the past 14 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL-6DLpJL_U&t
A quick video but it shows just how fast it can happen when gringos aren't paying attention. All it took was for him to turn his head to watch the live stream and the girl got him. If it wasn't for his viewers watching to warn him what happened, it would have been another story of a gringo getting drugged and robbed.
I keep telling people that you don't need to go on Tinder to get drugged and robbed. A target is a target no matter how the interaction came to be like this one meeting them in Getsemeni.
Use the video as a precaution.
Gentlemen! Does anyone know of any guest friendly buildings in manga? Thanks!
I caught that video this morning on YouTube while cruising for entertainment. The most remarkable thing was this hustle occurred in Getesamani, a place I don't normally associate with this kind of activity. As the commentator noted, don't get enticed into 3 somes there as you put yourself at even greater risk. These girls were skanks though unsure of their country of origin. Anyone know? It was interesting to watch the one girl give the eye to the other while she dropped a Micky into his beer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL-6DLpJL_U&t
A quick video but it shows just how fast it can happen when gringos aren't paying attention. All it took was for him to turn his head to watch the live stream and the girl got him. If it wasn't for his viewers watching to warn him what happened, it would have been another story of a gringo getting drugged and robbed.
I keep telling people that you don't need to go on Tinder to get drugged and robbed. A target is a target no matter how the interaction came to be like this one meeting them in Getsemeni.
Use the video as a precaution.
PerkinWarbeck
08-12-23, 01:57
Gentlemen! Does anyone know of any guest friendly buildings in manga? Thanks!The AirBnBs you see in Manga will not usually have a doorman, except for high rises. I lived there until July.
PerkinWarbeck
08-12-23, 02:54
Cartagena is a pure monger spot now. After COVID, it is quickly becoming an alternative to Mexico and the Dominican Republic. Heck even Panama just a short hop away. Getting GFE from the working girls is neigh on impossible at this point, which makes short trips purely transactional.
But the non working girls? Absolutely wonderful. While living there, I hired a 19 year old student to cook my meals for me. This quickly translated into being my girlfriend, and she was absolutely lovely. I went on a few dates with one of the cashiers at the Bath & Bodyworks in the mall, and a few more with a waitress in a restaurant downtown. Absolutely wonderful experience. Kisses, holding hands, and as much BBFS as I could handle. I even ended up smashing the nice lady (30 why. O) who cleaned my apartment every week.
Cartagena is a terrific place for long stays. I returned to the states for work, but will be back for a few years next summer. Cannot wait.
Trinimoses
08-12-23, 06:51
Is there a full list of all the clubs of working girls in cartagena that I can get?
Trinimoses
08-12-23, 07:47
Does anyone have a full list of clubs in Cartagena? And the standard rates?
JohnnieCash
08-12-23, 14:25
But the non working girls? Absolutely wonderful. While living there, I hired a 19 year old student to cook my meals for me. This quickly translated into being my girlfriend, and she was absolutely lovely. I went on a few dates with one of the cashiers at the Bath & Bodyworks in the mall, and a few more with a waitress in a restaurant downtown. Absolutely wonderful experience. Kisses, holding hands, and as much BBFS as I could handle. I even ended up smashing the nice lady (30 why. O) who cleaned my apartment every week.
Nice but what did all that cost?
....... While living there, I hired a 19 year old student to cook my meals for me. This quickly translated into being my girlfriend, and she was absolutely lovely......How did you get on to her? How much did she cost? Was she a good cook?
PerkinWarbeck
08-12-23, 23:40
Nice but what did all that cost?I didn't pay for sex with any of those girls. They were basically girlfriends. In any case, the dinners I paid for or the short ice cream dates cost way less than a working girl. Just get out of your comfort zone and chat them up where you see them. They like foreigners. And I'm not even white.
PerkinWarbeck
08-12-23, 23:46
How did you get on to her? How much did she cost? Was she a good cook?She was a decent cook for a girl who didn't have any training. I was originally paying her 750 k per month to come to my apartment and cook for me. I met her through the woman who owns the apartment I was renting. From hearing her talk, a lot of young girls at her university are doing the part time work thing. I'the ask the owner of the AirBnB or the lady they pay to clean your apartment or the doorman if you have one.
JohnnieCash
08-13-23, 04:18
I didn't pay for sex with any of those girls. They were basically girlfriends. In any case, the dinners I paid for or the short ice cream dates cost way less than a working girl. Just get out of your comfort zone and chat them up where you see them. They like foreigners. And I'm not even white.Very nice indeed then. Just for context, what's your Espanol level and the approx age bracket (if you don't mind).
PerkinWarbeck
08-13-23, 13:23
Very nice indeed then. Just for context, what's your Espanol level and the approx age bracket (if you don't mind).Early 30's and near fluent. Learning Spanish opens up so much for you here on the long stays.
HumpyDumpty11
08-17-23, 17:15
I know cartagena has the regular clubs in the city center. But do they have any swingers clubs in the center? Or any Lesbian or gay bars in the center?
GeorgeCarta22
08-18-23, 08:12
It's been about a year since I went but I figured ID help some people out. I had a burner and had to delete everything for safety so I'm really sorry that this can't be more helpful.
So I got tinder to try and help my weekend trip. I was only there for 2 nights due to some conflicting personal schedules so I had to make the best use of my time there. Seems like all the girls on tinder are working so a couple weeks before I started to find their information ask for insta or what's app and continue conversations there. I always kept trying to find the best looking girls and even asked them for their friends pictures and they were all happy to do so. I had a couple of girls saved and this is out of about 20 girls I talked to and maybe pics of 40 different girls.
This was my plan. Thursday morning, fly in early get 1 pop in. Thursday night try to get 1 or 2 pops that night at dolce. Friday try to muster another one out in the morning and then maybe Friday night another round at a club. Then Saturday morning a massage / pop or a prepago pop before I fly out. Yeah that was a little too greedy on my part but here's what actually happend.
Thursday I arrive and we used tour guides to help set up a lot of stuff. They were able to get us connected with a high end escort agency (he mentioned its more like a private facebook group that only friends can be invited too? But you basically get a catalog of high end escorts) 3 of my friends and we all picked our escorts before we landed. Then the tour guide person told us they werent available and resent us more options. We all picked one and when they arrived I had basically a porn star looking model who was from argentia, friend1 had a cuter slim chick with younger look and the friend2 picked out a girl who turned out to be a huge chunky porker. He did not approve of her, paid for her taxi back and they were ok sending him another girl.
We got to dance a little bit while friend2 was alone and headed to my room after some drinks and pool time. Well I didn't sleep well the night of the flight and of course with probably the hottest chick I've ever been with I couldn't get up. She didn't allow any kissing no DATY either. She offered different positions but eventually I just finished with a he on her chest. Jesus christ did I just spend $200 usd for one pop on a HJ with this girl? GAH whatever, long weekend I brush it off. Friend 2 is still waiting for his but because of the rainy season the downpour stalls his girl coming by almost 2 hours. Me and friend1 pass out for a long nap and friend2 eventually says his girl was pretty but service was just ok. OK lesson learned. Whatever.
We have dinner then head to dolce around 10 pm. This place is freaking amazing. This is our first time out of country hobbying but this place is packed. The doormen says we can go in if we get a table and a bottle. We all feel like being ripped off and they think were not getting a bottle and try to escort us back outside into the line. That makes us get cold feet and we end up just getting a bottle for the table. Girls are just everywhere and its honestly the worst idea getting a table cause you're just stuck in one spot. We all take turns going around the club to check out more girls so the other 2 can guard our drinks. There are 8/10 and 9/10 everywhere. We all snag some amazing girls but my girl is maybe 7/10 with a lovely attitude and very touchy feely. She keeps asking if I want to take her back and I'm being fickle and she can tell. I'm always fickle. I find another small girl with a huge top that's a 8/10 look whos interested but she immediately quotes me $150 USD. And since I did my research I say no way. The first girl says 120 k COP is fine for one pop. She's getting pretty upset with me because I'm dancing with her but talking to and checking out other girls. Its getting a bit later and we all decide to go with our initial choices. As I'm leaving a stunner walks in. I IMMEDIATLY grab her number. Friend1 and friend2 tell me my initial girl is PISSED cause I'm doing it right in front of her LOL. We go back to airbnb and my girl immediately wants to go to my room to get paid. She says don't tell the other girls how much I paid her which I thought was really odd.
Party, pool initimate dancing. My girl keeps her shirt on which was weird to me but whatever she's still cute. I end up going back to the room and realize she mustve just had a baby or something. Flabby pancake top and sort of a belly but I just do the deed and this time I can actually get up (hooray) . I go downstairs and hang out a bit and tell her she can go since I'm excited to message the stunner I saw at the bar. I immediately message the stunner and she's on her way over in an hour. Friend1 and friend 2 come down and tell me how much they paid. They both paide 150 USD. Damn. I told them to negotiate in COP but they mutve forgotten. And then I realize all the girls in the car unionized and said were going to be firm on 150 USD. Which is why that first girl mustve told me not to tell them. I made sure to negotiate in the club before I left. My friends try to haggle AFTER the fact and they realize its a losing game.
Its getting late so ill write up part 2 later.
Stayed at the same Airbnb on Calle 9 from my last trip. No issue with bringing girls back at any hour. Just had to make sure they had ID for the security desk at the entrance. It's a bit of a walk from Playa Hollywood so if you don't like to work up a sweat walking back and forth stay closer to Calle 4.
Playa Hollywood during the daytime. Girls were asking for 250 k to 400 k for 1 hour. 4 pm had the most girls. 2 pm if you want dibs on the girl of your choice.
Torre del reloj at night. Girls start hanging around the plaza at 10 pm up to at least 2 am. I was usually on my way to bed by 2 am so not sure if the action went on later. 12 am has the most girls in the plaza, clubs and outside the clubs. Girls outside the clubs and in the plaza were asking for 250 k to 500 k for 1 hour. Lots of cops in the plaza and near the clubs so it was very safe up to around 1 am. Uber was super cheap. Otherwise taxis were 10 k to 20 k.
At the end of the street by DV there's a bakery and you can sit there and watch the girls snack or arrive in taxis for DV all night long. If you want first dibs on the girls before they go into the clubs, that's a good spot to catch them when they get dropped off by the taxis. Inferno / Imperium is also a quiet club with strong AC if you want a less crowded club. The girls from the plaza like to go in there for the AC and bathroom too.
Davieneda ATMs in Bocagrande worked fine and gave out 1. 8 M at a time with no fee. Make sure to say no to the conversion.
I had no problem finding light skinned skinny blonde 20 yos and tanned curvy brunettes. Picked up 10 Venezuelans. 5 locals and 5 paisas. Called a few girls on Whatsapp for 200 k to 300 k but their photos were heavily edited. Playa Hollywood and the Plaza worked best for me. Cartagena is still fun and relatively cheap. Lots of girls in lots of venues and new girls arrive daily.
Trinimoses
08-24-23, 01:02
Any idea what club this is in Cartagena?
Any idea what club this is in Cartagena?Why do you think it's in Cartagena? Looks like it's in Venezuela.
Trinimoses
08-24-23, 18:03
Why do you think it's in Cartagena? Looks like it's in Venezuela.I just thought it was a club with venezuelan flag in the back. I could be wrong.
It's been about a year since I went but I figured ID help some people out. I had a burner and had to delete everything for safety so I'm really sorry that this can't be more helpful.
So I got tinder to try and help my weekend trip. I was only there for 2 nights due to some conflicting personal schedules so I had to make the best use of my time there. Seems like all the girls on tinder are working so a couple weeks before I started to find their information ask for insta or what's app and continue conversations there. I always kept trying to find the best looking girls and even asked them for their friends pictures and they were all happy to do so. I had a couple of girls saved and this is out of about 20 girls I talked to and maybe pics of 40 different girls.
This was my plan. Thursday morning, fly in early get 1 pop in. Thursday night try to get 1 or 2 pops that night at dolce. Friday try to muster another one out in the morning and then maybe Friday night another round at a club. Then Saturday morning a massage / pop or a prepago pop before I fly out. Yeah that was a little too greedy on my part but here's what actually happend.
Thursday I arrive and we used tour guides to help set up a lot of stuff. They were able to get us connected with a high end escort agency (he mentioned its more like a private facebook group that only friends can be invited too? But you basically get a catalog of high end escorts) 3 of my friends and we all picked our escorts before we landed. Then the tour guide person told us they werent available and resent us more options. We all picked one and when they arrived I had basically a porn star looking model who was from argentia, friend1 had a cuter slim chick with younger look and the friend2 picked out a girl who turned out to be a huge chunky porker. He did not approve of her, paid for her taxi back and they were ok sending him another girl.
We got to dance a little bit while friend2 was alone and headed to my room after some drinks and pool time. Well I didn't sleep well the night of the flight and of course with probably the hottest chick I've ever been with I couldn't get up. She didn't allow any kissing no DATY either. She offered different positions but eventually I just finished with a he on her chest. Jesus christ did I just spend $200 usd for one pop on a HJ with this girl? GAH whatever, long weekend I brush it off. Friend 2 is still waiting for his but because of the rainy season the downpour stalls his girl coming by almost 2 hours. Me and friend1 pass out for a long nap and friend2 eventually says his girl was pretty but service was just ok. OK lesson learned. Whatever.
We have dinner then head to dolce around 10 pm. This place is freaking amazing. This is our first time out of country hobbying but this place is packed. The doormen says we can go in if we get a table and a bottle. We all feel like being ripped off and they think were not getting a bottle and try to escort us back outside into the line. That makes us get cold feet and we end up just getting a bottle for the table. Girls are just everywhere and its honestly the worst idea getting a table cause you're just stuck in one spot. We all take turns going around the club to check out more girls so the other 2 can guard our drinks. There are 8/10 and 9/10 everywhere. We all snag some amazing girls but my girl is maybe 7/10 with a lovely attitude and very touchy feely. She keeps asking if I want to take her back and I'm being fickle and she can tell. I'm always fickle. I find another small girl with a huge top that's a 8/10 look whos interested but she immediately quotes me $150 USD. And since I did my research I say no way. The first girl says 120 k COP is fine for one pop. She's getting pretty upset with me because I'm dancing with her but talking to and checking out other girls. Its getting a bit later and we all decide to go with our initial choices. As I'm leaving a stunner walks in. I IMMEDIATLY grab her number. Friend1 and friend2 tell me my initial girl is PISSED cause I'm doing it right in front of her LOL. We go back to airbnb and my girl immediately wants to go to my room to get paid. She says don't tell the other girls how much I paid her which I thought was really odd.
Party, pool initimate dancing. My girl keeps her shirt on which was weird to me but whatever she's still cute. I end up going back to the room and realize she mustve just had a baby or something. Flabby pancake top and sort of a belly but I just do the deed and this time I can actually get up (hooray) . I go downstairs and hang out a bit and tell her she can go since I'm excited to message the stunner I saw at the bar. I immediately message the stunner and she's on her way over in an hour. Friend1 and friend 2 come down and tell me how much they paid. They both paide 150 USD. Damn. I told them to negotiate in COP but they mutve forgotten. And then I realize all the girls in the car unionized and said were going to be firm on 150 USD. Which is why that first girl mustve told me not to tell them. I made sure to negotiate in the club before I left. My friends try to haggle AFTER the fact and they realize its a losing game.
Its getting late so ill write up part 2 later.Am I understanding this correctly? This report is from 2022? As in over 6 months ago?
Any idea what club this is in Cartagena?So someone is supposed to find this club how? The wallpaper? The giant fake tits? The angle of the light?
Mr Enternational
08-25-23, 03:42
Any idea what club this is in Cartagena?We definitely need to know in order to avoid those chicks at all costs.
It's been about a year since I went but I figured ID help some people out. I had a burner and had to delete everything for safety so I'm really sorry that this can't be more helpful.
.... There are 8/10 and 9/10 everywhere. We all snag some amazing girls but my girl is maybe 7/10 with a lovely attitude and very touchy feely. She keeps asking if I want to take her back and I'm being fickle and she can tell. I'm always fickle. I find another small girl with a huge top that's a 8/10 look whos interested but she immediately quotes me $150 USD. And since I did my research I say no way. The first girl says 120 k COP is fine for one pop....
Party, pool initimate dancing. My girl keeps her shirt on which was weird to me but whatever she's still cute. I end up going back to the room and realize she mustve just had a baby or something. Flabby pancake top and sort of a belly but I just do the deed and this time I can actually get up (hooray) ......Friend1 and friend 2 come down and tell me how much they paid. They both paide 150 USD. Damn. I told them to negotiate in COP but they mutve forgotten. And then I realize all the girls in the car unionized and said were going to be firm on 150 USD. Which is why that first girl mustve told me not to tell them. I made sure to negotiate in the club before I left. My friends try to haggle AFTER the fact and they realize its a losing game.....
Its getting late so ill write up part 2 later.You only paid 120 k COP (ie $25-$30) in Cartagena! My props. That's the lowest I've heard in some time!
HumpyDumpty11
08-25-23, 21:55
Just saw a flyer posted by a chica that Sept 8th will be Hip Hop night in Space. Passing on the info cause like people I don't want to be in there for American music all night. I hope they're not trying to be Delirium Cloned.
Just saw a flyer posted by a chica that Sept 8th will be Hip Hop night in Space. Passing on the info cause like people I don't want to be in there for American music all night. I hope they're not trying to be Delirium Cloned.It's too late for that.
Last time I was there the had the same stupid shit of 3 hired dancers dancing like they are in a music video on top of the bar in Space. The same stupid shit that happens in Delirium where they dancing on the bar in Ski masks. And I saw the same stupid shit in Dolce. Dolce was even worse because they made a makeshift stage on the opposite wall of the bar and have girls dancing up there and on the bar at the same time like every hour.
Good look to everyone.
I took my ass to Santa Martha.
I have not seen a single pair of Jordan's, all white Airforce 1, no Yankee fittits, no wife beaters, nobody that looks like they from my block!
My girl and I are enjoying our time here before returning to Cartagena.
You only paid 120 k COP (ie $25-$30) in Cartagena! My props. That's the lowest I've heard in some time!My girl have showed me the 120 kCOP chicas in Cartagena. But some people have zero issues sleeping in the Motel 6 or Super 8 so to each their own.
DablackPicasso
08-28-23, 16:19
Hello,
Wanted to get anyone's opinion on what the experience has been. I recently took a trip to Sosua DR a couple weeks ago and had an amazing time. But while I was there multiple guys I talked to said that I should check out Colombia and Cartagena / Medellin. If any of you guys have been to Sosua and Colombia can you let me know which one you liked better. I know Cartagena and Medellin are big cities and Sosua is a small beach town but I would still like to know which you guys like more. I would be traveling solo as well if I were to go.
SouthernOcean
08-28-23, 20:38
I know about the Viajero central. I have their apartment reserved by it would be nice to have a hotel or airbnb with hot water. Been here a few times but getting older and hot water would be nice. So girl friendly inside the walls. Please PM me with any good places.
Thanks.
Hello,
Wanted to get anyone's opinion on what the experience has been. I recently took a trip to Sosua DR a couple weeks ago and had an amazing time. But while I was there multiple guys I talked to said that I should check out Colombia and Cartagena / Medellin. If any of you guys have been to Sosua and Colombia can you let me know which one you liked better. I know Cartagena and Medellin are big cities and Sosua is a small beach town but I would still like to know which you guys like more. I would be traveling solo as well if I were to go.Colombia hands down.
PerkinWarbeck
08-29-23, 14:13
I know about the Viajero central. I have their apartment reserved by it would be nice to have a hotel or airbnb with hot water. Been here a few times but getting older and hot water would be nice. So girl friendly inside the walls. Please PM me with any good places.
Thanks.Hot water is fairly rare outside of hotels in Cartagena. It's just so hot during the day that a cold shower is preferred.
I know about the Viajero central. I have their apartment reserved by it would be nice to have a hotel or airbnb with hot water. Been here a few times but getting older and hot water would be nice. So girl friendly inside the walls. Please PM me with any good places.
Thanks.I knew a bunch of places inside the walls and outside with hot water (next to Mall Plaza, boca grande, Getsemeni, el Laguito) but, as I've learned the hard way, some information must be kept to myself. I gave an entire list of places I've stayed on forums and WhatsApp groups trying to help the next person, no security or guest friendly, jacuzzi, hot water, private, washer / dryer, rooftop, etc. I even stayed at one in Getsemeni that had toilet seat bidets, perfect after eating those burgers by Plaza la Trinidad. Then slowly one by one their rules started changing about only those on the reservation are allowed in the apartment or the reservation will be immediately canceled, no refund with $$$ penalty and all guests must leave. If cops are called for any reason, neighbor complain, etc they kick everyone out the house / apartment and the most fucked up part is that they won't list those things on the listing, they will send it to the person the day before they check in, a shit ton of additional rules that were never mentioned blindsiding the person.
I only have a few left but these are not really solo places unless you do something similar to what I do, put all your stuff in 1 bedroom and do your business in the other bedroom.
Also how much you're willing to spend per night?
I still know of 4 in Getsemeni all by the same owner and they are cool with guests.
Manizales911
08-29-23, 16:58
Hello,
Wanted to get anyone's opinion on what the experience has been. I recently took a trip to Sosua DR a couple weeks ago and had an amazing time. But while I was there multiple guys I talked to said that I should check out Colombia and Cartagena / Medellin. If any of you guys have been to Sosua and Colombia can you let me know which one you liked better. I know Cartagena and Medellin are big cities and Sosua is a small beach town but I would still like to know which you guys like more. I would be traveling solo as well if I were to go.I currently have apartments in both countries and split my time between them, I also have a home in the states because sometimes I need to go back and get my fix of first world living. I like Sosua for the beach, chicas and a handful of close gringo friends. I like Colombia for the chicas, much better infrastructure, cooler climate, and did I mention chicas. If Colombia had a nice beach in an easily accessible and safe area I would live there full time but it doesn't so I go back and forth between both countries and I'm okay with that.
SouthernOcean
08-29-23, 23:34
I knew a bunch of places inside the walls and outside with hot water (next to Mall Plaza, boca grande, Getsemeni, el Laguito) but, as I've learned the hard way, some information must be kept to myself. I gave an entire list of places I've stayed on forums and WhatsApp groups trying to help the next person, no security or guest friendly, jacuzzi, hot water, private, washer / dryer, rooftop, etc. I even stayed at one in Getsemeni that had toilet seat bidets, perfect after eating those burgers by Plaza la Trinidad. Then slowly one by one their rules started changing about only those on the reservation are allowed in the apartment or the reservation will be immediately canceled, no refund with $$$ penalty and all guests must leave. If cops are called for any reason, neighbor complain, etc they kick everyone out the house / apartment and the most fucked up part is that they won't list those things on the listing, they will send it to the person the day before they check in, a shit ton of additional rules that were never mentioned blindsiding the person.
I only have a few left but these are not really solo places unless you do something similar to what I do, put all your stuff in 1 bedroom and do your business in the other bedroom.
Also how much you're willing to spend per night?
I still know of 4 in Getsemeni all by the same owner and they are cool with guests.About a hundred or so. Thanks.
Mine costs me around $. 75 each in the USA with a prescription from my doctor. You would have to be a total Moron to pay $10 for one.
That is why you get generic. It is cheap. I was in a pharmacy in Santa Marta and the pharmacist said Durax was buy one box get one free. It was nowhere near the price on this ad. It was like $25 for a box of 28 plus a free box of 28. I sell them for $10 each so I made a nice profit.
My Brother and I are heading to Cartagena tomorrow and did hear of a good bar there (non-strip club) where you could sit and enjoy regular priced drinks where there would be Scorts. My friend could not remember the name of the place.
We Spent 7 days in Medellin and now wrapping up 4 nights in Bogota, then 4 nights Cartagena and then returning back to Medellin for 8 more. We like to keep an arms length from the strip clubs, total rip off and stressful in my opinion.
Mr Enternational
08-30-23, 13:16
Mine costs me around $. 75 each in the USA with a prescription from my doctor. You would have to be a total Moron to pay $10 for one.I am a hood guy. Everybody can't just go get a prescription. But that is how I started back when it first came out. I went and got a prescription of 30 pills for $10 copay. I took one and saw how it made my head hurt so I sold the other 29. That was over 20 years ago.
I am a hood guy. Everybody can't just go get a prescription. But that is how I started back when it first came out. I went and got a prescription of 30 pills for $10 copay. I took one and saw how it made my head hurt so I sold the other 29. That was over 20 years ago.
They make my other head ache in a good way.
My Brother and I are heading to Cartagena tomorrow and did hear of a good bar there (non-strip club) where you could sit and enjoy regular priced drinks where there would be Scorts. My friend could not remember the name of the place.
We Spent 7 days in Medellin and now wrapping up 4 nights in Bogota, then 4 nights Cartagena and then returning back to Medellin for 8 more. We like to keep an arms length from the strip clubs, total rip off and stressful in my opinion.Your friend gave you vague information, and vague information is the worst to make plans on.
Ask your friend when was the last time they were at this place?
Ask them if it was inside the walls or outside?
Bosque?
Centro?
BocaGrande?
El Laguito?
To my knowledge if it's local priced drinks and working girls in a regular club then it's outside the walls. If inside the walls it's one of the main 3 working girl clubs they all go to. Imperio, VSOP, Clocktower Pub will be the next 3 runner up. You can also find them at Miridor and Portal but they may be a group of girls with 1 gringo.
Oh and heads up, it's humid as F here. Standing in the shade for 10 minutes and my face and shirt is soaked like I was standing in the rain.
ThatZonaKid
08-31-23, 13:50
Saw her online, seemed too good to be true. Any experience.
https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/promo-70k-camila-peliroja-pornografica-con-cuerpo-excitante/23253985/
PerkinWarbeck
09-01-23, 14:01
Saw her online, seemed too good to be true. Any experience.
https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/promo-70k-camila-peliroja-pornografica-con-cuerpo-excitante/23253985/Likely fake. Here's a protip for anyone looking at ladies on Mileroticos or Skokka. Google their number! There is another website where Colombian mongers review the ladies. You can Google translate to understand, but it will give you an idea if they are fake and how the service is. Also, pay attention to the prices they pay vs what you all are quoted.
Cheers!
Mine costs me around $. 75 each in the USA with a prescription from my doctor. You would have to be a total Moron to pay $10 for one.I get Taldalafilo for a dollar a pill at the drogueria in my barrio 20 mil for a box of 4 20 MG pills. Works much better than Viagra.
Saw her online, seemed too good to be true. Any experience.
https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/promo-70k-camila-peliroja-pornografica-con-cuerpo-excitante/23253985/Nah she's real. I saw her online a while back in Bogota I guess she moved to Cartagena. Word of caution the Bogota girls that are online suck. They all use filters and photoshop and when you se ever irl she'll mostly likely look ugly. So if she looks like a 7 subtract 2 points and now she's a 5.
Mr Enternational
09-02-23, 05:01
Nah she's real. I saw her online a while back in Bogota I guess she moved to Cartagena.You actually saw her or you only saw the ad? People streal pics and make ads all the time. People also steal ads and make other ads. Saw a chick in a Brazil ad that I wanted to hit. Saw the same chick in a Peru ad. When I went to Peru I ended up fucking the chick. She was Peruvian and had never been to Brazil.
Nah she's real. I saw her online a while back in Bogota I guess she moved to Cartagena. Word of caution the Bogota girls that are online suck. They all use filters and photoshop and when you se ever irl she'll mostly likely look ugly. So if she looks like a 7 subtract 2 points and now she's a 5.Did you meet her IRL to confirm she's real or you're confirming she's real because you also saw the same advertisement in Bogota?
What exactly is "a while back" and was it the same exact pics used for the advertisement?
Lots of those accounts will post similar advertisements in many cities using the same photos and once a gringo contacts them all of a sudden they are not in the area the advertisement was posted and they need money for a plane ticket to meet with the gringo. But ask them for their live location to call out their bullshit and see how well the conversation goes after.
No dar papaya.
Did you meet her IRL to confirm she's real or you're confirming she's real because you also saw the same advertisement in Bogota?
What exactly is "a while back" and was it the same exact pics used for the advertisement?
Lots of those accounts will post similar advertisements in many cities using the same photos and once a gringo contacts them all of a sudden they are not in the area the advertisement was posted and they need money for a plane ticket to meet with the gringo. But ask them for their live location to call out their bullshit and see how well the conversation goes after.
No dar papaya.I've never met her because I know she's from Bogota and in Bogota they always use photoshop but I know she's real. Trust me I've seen every girl on mileroticos I've spent so much time looking. I've seen girls travel around and change their location on mileroticos. I had this one girl who I did when she was in Bogota. She moved just outside the city and change the location in mileroticos and I asked her about it. And she confirmed that she did leave and when she got back she changed location back and I called her back.
Before that person posted asking about this girl I saw her in Bogota and then when I started looking in Cartagena I saw that she moved her location which surprised me. I know girls that have gone from Medellin to Bogota and vice versa and another one that has done a tour around all of Colombia.
I haven't met this girl but I can confirm with a high degree of accuracy she's real.
I've never met her because I know she's from Bogota and in Bogota they always use photoshop but I know she's real. Trust me I've seen every girl on mileroticos I've spent so much time looking. I've seen girls travel around and change their location on mileroticos. I had this one girl who I did when she was in Bogota. She moved just outside the city and change the location in mileroticos and I asked her about it. And she confirmed that she did leave and when she got back she changed location back and I called her back.
Before that person posted asking about this girl I saw her in Bogota and then when I started looking in Cartagena I saw that she moved her location which surprised me. I know girls that have gone from Medellin to Bogota and vice versa and another one that has done a tour around all of Colombia.
I haven't met this girl but I can confirm with a high degree of accuracy she's real.Ok, so by reading your response what I'm understanding is that you are confirming that the advertisement can be moved from one location to another. You don't have any IRL experience with the particular individual in the advertisement to confirm the individual is 100% real but because you had IRL experience with another girl that moved her advertisement from one location to another and they were real then in conclusion it that makes this person in the advertisement real.
I took my ass to Santa Martha.
I have not seen a single pair of Jordan's, all white Airforce 1, no Yankee fittits, no wife beaters, nobody that looks like they from my block!
My girl and I are enjoying our time here before returning to Cartagena.I feel you. I think the word is out that CTG is a lot of the Sosua type crowd. People are branching out and looking for other options.
I didn't pay for sex with any of those girls. They were basically girlfriends. In any case, the dinners I paid for or the short ice cream dates cost way less than a working girl. Just get out of your comfort zone and chat them up where you see them. They like foreigners. And I'm not even white.That's what's up. When I'm on the coast, that's my MO as well.
Michael1967
09-04-23, 03:39
Last week, I got back home after spending 11 days in Cartagena. It was probably my worst in experience in 25+ years of traveling to Latin America. This was extremely disappointing for me because I love hot weather, Colombian women are beautiful, I dance Salsa (and Merengue and Bachata) well and I speak Spanish well enough that that most people understand me and I can understand them.
One of the things I love about traveling in Latin America is that in most locations, I can meet someone during the day, maybe have them tag along while I do some sight seeing or when I stop to have some drinks. If we get along, we will meet up later in the evening and go dancing or have dinner or whatever. I generally will give them money for their time and everyone is happy.
Something went terribly wrong in Cartagena. All I encountered were women that had zero interest in interacting with me except to find out where my hotel / AirBnb was at and wanting to know when we could leave to go there. Seriously, I have never, ever seen women so completely uninterested in anything about me since I've been traveling to Latin America. Hell, I can honestly say of the 6-7 women that I was with, maybe two actually even asked me my name. All of them simply called me "Bebe" (I fucking hate that). Towards the end of my trip (the last three days), I finally decided I was done with El Centro and started hanging out in the Gethesmane area and then started meeting normal women that actually had in interest in speaking to me, hanging out, dancing but they all seemed middle to upper class and while I had a great time meeting and hanging out out with them, I was VERY uncomfortable offering them money for sex and none hinted that they were open to it.
So, what happened to Cartagena and why is it so different? I think the issues were was caused by the men. I booked a guest friendly AirBnb in the El Cabrero neighborhood Francechy's Apartments ($57/ night) about 1. 5 km from the clock tower and walked there and back on a regular basis (according to my phone, I walked 6. 5 miles per day). My first day there, it was in the mid 90's with a nice breeze blowing so the heat wasn't that bad. I walked to the Clock Tower got a seat at Donde Fidel's and had a drink and watched people. I expected that a few nice women would come by and ask if they can have a drink with me. Nope. What I did see were several creepy looking, old white men (I'm black. But don't worry, their criticism is coming), standing around with their hands on their hips assessing the women (tourists or not) like a meat buyer in a butcher shop. If nothing was to their liking they would walk back to the other side of the arch and do the same thing. If they saw someone they liked, they would immediately walk up to them and start talking to them. More than a few times, the women they were approaching were obvious tourists and a few minutes later they would walk away stand there with their hands on their hips assessing who else they could approach. I just literally wanted to scream, "That isn't how you do it!
As the evening went on, more women showed up to do absolutely nothing but stand there and wait for men to approach them. There was no other type of interaction such as flirting or anything with men unless they were immediately leaving with them. I did approach several women and it was all the same thing. "Where are you staying?" "What are you doing tonight?" "Let's go to your place" "Okay, here is my number call me when you leave" (I never called any of them). I think the men here caused this. If your only interest in them is screwing them, giving them money and having them go away, why would they waste their time showing interest in you otherwise.
I'm going to spare you all of the non-sex related stuff I did and move on to the women, there were several things I liked about the city, but no one here cares.
On Friday, I think the US emptied their ghettoes onto Spirit Airlines and they all flew to Cartagena. Seriously, I grew up in Oakland and was dirt poor, I now own a business and know lots of lots of middle class black men, these people definitely weren't it. At one point, I was hanging out with my daughter at one of the night clubs (she showed up later on during my trip) and she grabbed me and said, "we need to leave now" she was worried that with the anger, aggression, American rap music playing along with the massive crowd of people in the bar that a shooting would break out at any moment. I was so proud of her, because if I were at home, I would have thought the exact same thing. Seriously, you go to another country and get into a fight with someone because they stepped on your new shoes? You need to stay home and do that shit there. At any point, I realized that the night clubs cater to the tourists and that no one local (except hookers) would go there. At one point, I went into Dolce Vita and couldn't move because it was simply packed with women. I realized as they kicked some women off a table and allowed me to sit down that not one woman there had a drink in her hands. Not one. It was actually worse than that. It was like 50-60 women all standing there with resting be**ch face looking bored unless someone looked at them. Then they would suddenly smile and try to look sexy.
I've have much more to type, but need to leave. But in the end.
2 Women from Clock Tower.
3 Women from Mileroticos.
2 Women from Tinder.
1 mediocre massages (at a spa) with a happy ending.
1 fantastic massage (at a spa) no happy ending.
Average price (not including massages) paid $250 K pesos. The sex with all of the women were as I expected. They were all beyond beautiful; all completely terrible in bed (only two made any real effort). All promised the world when as they tried to get your business, but pretty much only did missionary, doggy and cowgirl, did get a horrible BJ from one before I simply had to stop her (though I should have let her go, she defiintely needed the practice). At any time, first time a trip for me was a complete bust. I probably won't be going back, but if I do, I will be avoiding El Centro.
I should also mention that I took Uber everywhere. Cab drivers there are thieves. I haven't met one person there that would saying anything positive about the cab drivers. For me, I was with my daughter and we were leaving El Centro and going to her hotel (yes, I book a different place than my daughter). She is was 1 K (. 6 miles) from downtown. We asked the cab driver how much and he says, "20" (in Spanish). $20 K pesos was a little high (Uber was generally $9 K pesos). So we get in, I hand him $20 K pesos and he says, "This isn't right, I want $20 US each. " I told him "come mierda" and got out of the cab. This is typical behavior for cab drivers there. I won't even look at them. They can all starve.
Last week, I got back home after spending 11 days in Cartagena. It was probably my worst in experience in 25+ years of traveling to Latin America. Can I guess that your age may have something to do with it? Maybe you are not as attractive as you were 25 years ago and the women no longer want to dance with you.
Mr Enternational
09-04-23, 04:40
Towards the end of my trip (the last three days), I finally decided I was done with El Centro and started hanging out in the Gethesmane area and then started meeting normal women that actually had in interest in speaking to me, hanging out, dancing but they all seemed middle to upper class and while I had a great time meeting and hanging out out with them, I was VERY uncomfortable offering them money for sex and none hinted that they were open to it.Uhh so why would it come across your mind to do it? Why do most guys on this website assume that if someone likes them and they have a good time together then they need to give them money? I will never understand that.
Are some guys just born to be tricks and hold it deep inside that is all they could ever be? Is every guy that meets every woman always supposed to be looking out that a woman has to be paid when they have sex together? Where does this kind of thinking come from? Everybody is not a hooker, but what causes guys that deal with hookers to assume that even women who are not hookers are hookers and that if the course is not following a hooker / trick progression then they are out of their element and do not know how to function? Buying pussy from a couple of chicks seem to make some guys get "in too deep" and try to apply hooker world shit to the normal world. Learn to have situational awareness and use some discernment. The entire world is not a hoarhouse. This shit is crazy.
So you are used to having hookers that act like they are interested in you. You find hookers that are not going to bullshit you and would rather cut to the chase. You do not like them being upfront and honest. You go on to find some normal women that are genuinely interested in you. You do not know how to act because they are not interested in your money. So you would rather have someone blow smoke up your ass and bullshit you around until you pay them than someone that is being real and you do not need to pay them? You can not make this shit up.
Michael1967
09-04-23, 06:36
Can I guess that your age may have something to do with it? Maybe you are not as attractive as you were 25 years ago and the women no longer want to dance with you.I didn't suddenly get old and ugly in the last 8 months. I travel outside the US 2-3 times per year (for the last 15+ years).
Last week, I got back home after spending 11 days in Cartagena. It was probably my worst in experience in 25+ years of traveling to Latin America. This was extremely disappointing for me because I love hot weather, Colombian women are beautiful, I dance Salsa (and Merengue and Bachata) well and I speak Spanish well enough that that most people understand me and I can understand them.
One of the things I love about traveling in Latin America is that in most locations, I can meet someone during the day, maybe have them tag along while I do some sight seeing or when I stop to have some drinks. If we get along, we will meet up later in the evening and go dancing or have dinner or whatever. I generally will give them money for their time and everyone is happy.
Everything happens for a reason. I just read a post in the Medellin section about another gringo drugged to death. Sometimes an L is really a W. You just don't know it.
Last week, I got back home after spending 11 days in Cartagena. It was probably my worst in experience in 25+ years of traveling to Latin America. This was extremely disappointing for me because I love hot weather, Colombian women are beautiful, I dance Salsa (and Merengue and Bachata) well and I speak Spanish well enough that that most people understand me and I can understand them.
One of the things I love about traveling in Latin America is that in most locations, I can meet someone during the day, maybe have them tag along while I do some sight seeing or when I stop to have some drinks. If we get along, we will meet up later in the evening and go dancing or have dinner or whatever. I generally will give them money for their time and everyone is happy.
Something went terribly wrong in Cartagena. All I encountered were women that had zero interest in interacting with me except to find out where my hotel / AirBnb was at and wanting to know when we could leave to go there.Amazing isn't it. It's like looking into the past.
I've said many times that the chicas here in Cartagena are now like the girls in Sosua but I can shout it all I want if it falls on deaf ears.
What's happening now is that chicas I've know for years now want more money for same service or they want same money for less service.
Now all the doing is slapping a condom on your dick, spot in their hand, rub their pussy and jump on it, bunny hop for 5 minutes, then get paid and leave.
Tonight was a "WTF happend" night. For some odd reason there's allot of overweight hood women walking around in big groups just being loud about everything the see. Their friend is shoulder to shoulder to them but they yelling so hard about a brother taking to a girl on Google translate trying to shame him.
They were like packs of buffaloes with so much fat hanging from their backs it looked like it needed a bra. What fucked yo what they were trying to go where all the black men were going not realizing we are not here to interact with the sisterhood. I got many nasty stares while walking by them with my chica and she kept asking me why they so big, and why they looking her angry. I just kept telling her the are trying to see where we went and why we no longer interact with them. My chica then joke about maybe they came to get a Colombiano. To which I said, no, it would be difficult for an overweight loudmouth that was probably raised by a single mother to disrespect men to end up with with a Colombiano as the culture is different and Latin men don't really tolerate the disrespect we had to endure since before I was born. She didn't get it, and I can't explain it to her.
Found out later a cruse ship came in and since it's Labor Day weekend well the usual suspects are here. Jordan's? Yes. Belly so big they can't see their Jordan's while standing? Yes. Loud mouth? Yes. Slip on sandles and socks at 11 pm? Yes.
I only have 1 more week here then I'm good for another 3 months.
Have to write up a report about my Santa Martha drive. I now know what "Detection Electrnico" means on that big ass sign on the dumb single lane highway.
......My chica then joke about maybe they came to get a Colombiano. To which I said, no, it would be difficult for an overweight loudmouth that was probably raised by a single mother to disrespect men to end up with with a Colombiano as the culture is different and Latin men don't really tolerate the disrespect we had to endure since before I was born. She didn't get it, and I can't explain it to her.......They could easily get a Colombiano if they offer to pay him but they should beware of the scope.
PerkinWarbeck
09-05-23, 21:10
You guys really have to do better when talking about other tourists, who aren't even the subject for this forum, and it's always funny because you all are no better.
You guys really have to do better when talking about other tourists, who aren't even the subject for this forum, and it's always funny because you all are no better.It definitely a jealousy thing on this board. They have a dislike for younger guys with expendable incomes because apparently we drove the market up and their retirement / pensions etc can't keep up. The demographics of this board favors guys 60+. Then you have the ones who dislike the "hiphop" crowd and it just stems from jealousy.
Michael, I read your report on Cartagena a few comments down from here and could not agree more. I began visiting Cartagena around 2009 and enjoyed my initial trips the city, vibe, food, and the culture were unique. Though the woman were there for the money, most made an effort to earn their keep so to speak. But over the years, things have generally deteriorated. Even though I have a free place to stay at a high end hotel due to a time share arrangement, I have decided to go elsewhere on my holidays. Last October was the final straw when I found myself in the relatively early evening hours surrounded by several women who were attempting to accost and then rob me on one of the main streets leading from the ClockTower. Only when I retaliated by striking one of the woman in the stomach was I able to extricate myself from this situation.
After walking another block and speaking to a nonchalant policeman about this incident, did I realize that the police here had no interest in intervening and, indeed, they are probably on the take too. The girls who come there are not local ones as in the past but the vast majority are from Venezuela, Medellin or Bogata and many have a chip in their shoulder. And like you said, most of their performance in the room are insipid, hurried, and lacking even a slight hint of eroticism.
With some of the knock out drugs being past around and readily available, you could lose more than just your wallet or IPhone. I doubt if I will ever visit again. Good riddance to CTG.
11 days!! Why didn't you leave and go to a different city? I would have cut my loose and dipped. To your point that foreigner men have ruined Cartagena, I'd say the same for MDE, But CTG was already kinda ruined even before MDE was. I recall my first trips to MDE back in 2013 2014, the hoes would talk about going to work in CTG to get paid in US dollars. That was jumping off point to Panama and Costa Rica. Remember that there is a lot more than Colombia than CTG, MDE, and BOG. You speak Spanish, you will have a great time in other cities. Note that "Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac" - ISG. There are so many chicks looking for high-value men, that will fuck you for a little help economica. It's all about how you approach them to the proposition without making them feel like a prepago.
Last week, I got back home after spending 11 days in Cartagena. It was probably my worst in experience in 25+ years of traveling to Latin America. This was extremely disappointing for me because I love hot weather, Colombian women are beautiful, I dance Salsa (and Merengue and Bachata) well and I speak Spanish well enough that that most people understand me and I can understand them.
One of the things I love about traveling in Latin America is that in most locations, I can meet someone during the day, maybe have them tag along while I do some sight seeing or when I stop to have some drinks. If we get along, we will meet up later in the evening and go dancing or have dinner or whatever. I generally will give them money for their time and everyone is happy.
Something went terribly wrong in Cartagena. All I encountered were women that had zero interest in interacting with me except to find out where my hotel / AirBnb was at and wanting to know when we could leave to go there. Seriously, I have never, ever seen women so completely uninterested in anything about me since I've been traveling to Latin America. Hell, I can honestly say of the 6-7 women that I was with, maybe two actually even asked me my name. All of them simply called me "Bebe" (I fucking hate that). Towards the end of my trip (the last three days), I finally decided I was done with El Centro and started hanging out in the Gethesmane area and then started meeting normal women that actually had in interest in speaking to me, hanging out, dancing but they all seemed middle to upper class and while I had a great time meeting and hanging out out with them, I was VERY uncomfortable offering them money for sex and none hinted that they were open to it.
So, what happened to Cartagena and why is it so different? I think the issues were was caused by the men. I booked a guest friendly AirBnb in the El Cabrero neighborhood Francechy's Apartments ($57/ night) about 1. 5 km from the clock tower and walked there and back on a regular basis (according to my phone, I walked 6. 5 miles per day). My first day there, it was in the mid 90's with a nice breeze blowing so the heat wasn't that bad. I walked to the Clock Tower got a seat at Donde Fidel's and had a drink and watched people. I expected that a few nice women would come by and ask if they can have a drink with me. Nope. What I did see were several creepy looking, old white men (I'm black. But don't worry, their criticism is coming), standing around with their hands on their hips assessing the women (tourists or not) like a meat buyer in a butcher shop. If nothing was to their liking they would walk back to the other side of the arch and do the same thing. If they saw someone they liked, they would immediately walk up to them and start talking to them. More than a few times, the women they were approaching were obvious tourists and a few minutes later they would walk away stand there with their hands on their hips assessing who else they could approach. I just literally wanted to scream, "That isn't how you do it!
As the evening went on, more women showed up to do absolutely nothing but stand there and wait for men to approach them. There was no other type of interaction such as flirting or anything with men unless they were immediately leaving with them. I did approach several women and it was all the same thing. "Where are you staying?" "What are you doing tonight?" "Let's go to your place" "Okay, here is my number call me when you leave" (I never called any of them). I think the men here caused this. If your only interest in them is screwing them, giving them money and having them go away, why would they waste their time showing interest in you otherwise.
I'm going to spare you all of the non-sex related stuff I did and move on to the women, there were several things I liked about the city, but no one here cares.
On Friday, I think the US emptied their ghettoes onto Spirit Airlines and they all flew to Cartagena. Seriously, I grew up in Oakland and was dirt poor, I now own a business and know lots of lots of middle class black men, these people definitely weren't it. At one point, I was hanging out with my daughter at one of the night clubs (she showed up later on during my trip) and she grabbed me and said, "we need to leave now" she was worried that with the anger, aggression, American rap music playing along with the massive crowd of people in the bar that a shooting would break out at any moment. I was so proud of her, because if I were at home, I would have thought the exact same thing. Seriously, you go to another country and get into a fight with someone because they stepped on your new shoes? You need to stay home and do that shit there. At any point, I realized that the night clubs cater to the tourists and that no one local (except hookers) would go there. At one point, I went into Dolce Vita and couldn't move because it was simply packed with women. I realized as they kicked some women off a table and allowed me to sit down that not one woman there had a drink in her hands. Not one. It was actually worse than that. It was like 50-60 women all standing there with resting be**ch face looking bored unless someone looked at them. Then they would suddenly smile and try to look sexy.
I've have much more to type, but need to leave. But in the end.
2 Women from Clock Tower.
3 Women from Mileroticos.
2 Women from Tinder.
1 mediocre massages (at a spa) with a happy ending.
1 fantastic massage (at a spa) no happy ending.
Average price (not including massages) paid $250 K pesos. The sex with all of the women were as I expected. They were all beyond beautiful; all completely terrible in bed (only two made any real effort). All promised the world when as they tried to get your business, but pretty much only did missionary, doggy and cowgirl, did get a horrible BJ from one before I simply had to stop her (though I should have let her go, she defiintely needed the practice). At any time, first time a trip for me was a complete bust. I probably won't be going back, but if I do, I will be avoiding El Centro.
I should also mention that I took Uber everywhere. Cab drivers there are thieves. I haven't met one person there that would saying anything positive about the cab drivers. For me, I was with my daughter and we were leaving El Centro and going to her hotel (yes, I book a different place than my daughter). She is was 1 K (. 6 miles) from downtown. We asked the cab driver how much and he says, "20" (in Spanish). $20 K pesos was a little high (Uber was generally $9 K pesos). So we get in, I hand him $20 K pesos and he says, "This isn't right, I want $20 US each. " I told him "come mierda" and got out of the cab. This is typical behavior for cab drivers there. I won't even look at them. They can all starve.
You should read back through the pages we've gone on and all about the" posses" that have destroyed Cartegena. You're not going to get any blow back here We can't be more specific about it because the moderators won't tolerate it but we all know what the deal is.
11 days!! Why didn't you leave and go to a different city? I would have cut my loose and dipped. To your point that foreigner men have ruined Cartagena, I'd say the same for MDE, But CTG was already kinda ruined even before MDE was. I recall my first trips to MDE back in 2013 2014, the hoes would talk about going to work in CTG to get paid in US dollars. That was jumping off point to Panama and Costa Rica. Remember that there is a lot more than Colombia than CTG, MDE, and BOG. You speak Spanish, you will have a great time in other cities. Note that "Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac" - ISG. There are so many chicks looking for high-value men, that will fuck you for a little help economica. It's all about how you approach them to the proposition without making them feel like a prepago.
Michael1967
09-07-23, 07:21
11 days!! Why didn't you leave and go to a different city? I would have cut my loose and dipped. To your point that foreigner men have ruined Cartagena, I'd say the same for MDE, But CTG was already kinda ruined even before MDE was. I recall my first trips to MDE back in 2013 2014, the hoes would talk about going to work in CTG to get paid in US dollars. That was jumping off point to Panama and Costa Rica. Remember that there is a lot more than Colombia than CTG, MDE, and BOG. You speak Spanish, you will have a great time in other cities. Note that "Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac" - ISG. There are so many chicks looking for high-value men, that will fuck you for a little help economica. It's all about how you approach them to the proposition without making them feel like a prepago.Most of the time, when I travel, I don't travel strictly for sex. My (adult) daughter and I usually take a trip together once per year. This year she chose Cartagena. She planned on six days and (because of this site) I realized it would be a good spot to spend a few extra days alone. So, I booked eleven days and she booked six. Once she arrived, I still had alone time (we stayed in different locations), but we spent most of the time doing touristy things together. Next year, she's hoping to do Brazil. If we do it (I have concerns about safety. Hers not mine), then I will probably do the same thing. Arrive earlier or stay later.
Unfortunately because of behavior of your brothers Colombian women are not really interested in Africa gringos. The posse crowd has turned Cartagena into another version of Sosua. Since you seem to have a problem with older American gringos peering around the locals maybe you ought to go take at what the large groups of African Americans are doing largely wasting girls' time, eventually lowballing them and moving on to the next party so you getting the benefit of their cheap holidays.
Most of the time, when I travel, I don't travel strictly for sex. My (adult) daughter and I usually take a trip together once per year. This year she chose Cartagena. She planned on six days and (because of this site) I realized it would be a good spot to spend a few extra days alone. So, I booked eleven days and she booked six. Once she arrived, I still had alone time (we stayed in different locations), but we spent most of the time doing touristy things together. Next year, she's hoping to do Brazil. If we do it (I have concerns about safety. Hers not mine), then I will probably do the same thing. Arrive earlier or stay later.
Unfortunately because of behavior of your brothers Colombian women are not really interested in Africa gringos......It makes no sense trying to simplify the situation. If Colombian women are not interested in Africa gringos then how come the Africa gringos can be accused of spoiling them? My thinking is that as long as you have money the chicas will be interested. Chicas go after money and gringos represent dollars. The people who are really affected by an influx of gringos are Colombian men. Consider how they feel. These are the people Colombian women are not really interested in in the gringo infested areas.
It definitely a jealousy thing on this board. They have a dislike for younger guys with expendable incomes because apparently we drove the market up and their retirement / pensions etc can't keep up. The demographics of this board favors guys 60+. Then you have the ones who dislike the "hiphop" crowd and it just stems from jealousy.Mid 30's with plenty of disposable income and enough time to spend a month at a time out of the US a few times a year. I can definitely check the box of those "who dislike the hip hop crowd" but its not at all jealousy, its more of an annoyance as they still operate as they are still in high school and have to constantly seek approval of their peers so its constantly "loudspeaker mode" to get attention. For me, I don't think it makes for anyone to hop on a plane to go somewhere just to be annoyed.
I believe this trip will be the final nail in the coffin for me in Cartagena as things hit a new level. My chica was equally annoyed as I was when we returned to Cartagena from Santa Martha and Barranquilla.
Ill now be going more places that are not heavily advertised by the usual Youtubers that attract a certain crowd.
It makes no sense trying to simplify the situation. If Colombian women are not interested in Africa gringos then how come the Africa gringos can be accused of spoiling them? My thinking is that as long as you have money the chicas will be interested. Chicas go after money and gringos represent dollars. The people who are really affected by an influx of gringos are Colombian men. Consider how they feel. These are the people Colombian women are not really interested in in the gringo infested areas.They're not spoiling they're being extorted because the women want more money to go with them --I've been told by numerous women this is the case. So yes they are both raising the prices for us and also making the girls more difficult to deal with because they are hardened by having to work for these guys.
Mr Enternational
09-08-23, 02:47
Unfortunately because of behavior of your brothers Colombian women are not really interested in Africa gringos. The posse crowd has turned Cartagena into another version of Sosua. Since you seem to have a problem with older American gringos peering around the locals maybe you ought to go take at what the large groups of African Americans are doing largely wasting girls' time, eventually lowballing them and moving on to the next party so you getting the benefit of their cheap holidays.Wait a minute. I thought it was the Sosua guys that have come in and jacked all the prices up and paying in dollars and shit the same as Sosua. Now you are telling us it is actually those guys who are trying to obtain more reasonable prices from the girls and this is a bad thing how? To benefit their cheap holidays? Aren't they they ones known to be weekend millionaires and literally throwing money around? Actually giving away money for nothing? Party crowd? I thought guys went to party places such as LDV because the chicks were there? Why wouldn't the chicks switch to going to non-party places to pick up tricks if they were not there to party as well?
Now of course you can not switch over to this side of the argument because it will only leave one reason as to why you are pointing at them. If Colombian women are not interested in Black guys I must have been going to the wrong Colombia for the last 20 years. And I probably mess with 95% non-hookers and only 5% hookers there. Somebody better tell all of my Colombian ex and present normal girlfriends that they are not supposed to be interested in me.
Back on topic, I've seen a bunch of ladies (working and non-working) acquiring European boyfriends. Even a few of the muchachas I know from Universidad Cartagena are off in Italy or Spain for the summer. If I lived there, it would probably be cheaper to just import these girls for a short stay. I might do that in Mexico around Thanksgiving.All I can do is laugh at the irony in this.
A while back when I said gringos were monopolizing chicas time by flying them out the country for weeks at a time I remember being called a conspiracy theorist (general form section). Even though I saw multiple chicas status in Croatia, Italy, and Paris, along with the usual Cancun, Tulum, Dominican Republic, Panama and Ecuador.
When I said that I saw big paying gringos sending chicas lots of money in advance to secure their availability or paying allot to make sure she's there for them, I remember being called a liar.
Allot of the chicas I see when I go to Cartagena have gringo boyfriends that send them $500 to $1000 a month for them to not sell themselves in the clubs and street but yet they still take on selective customers.
Michael1967
09-08-23, 03:54
It looks like I struck a nerve with some of the people that I criticized. My intent wasn't to offend. I basically was just saying, "Hey, you took time off work (or whatever); you traveled to another country. Take some time to talk to people, learn about their culture and just show some respect. Treat the ladies like humans. Most of them aren't doing it because they want to. They are doing it because they need to feed their families. ".
Also, you're on vacation, leave the bullshit at home and do as the Romans (or Colombians) do. There is no reason to fight or be angry, you're lucky that you have the ability to travel. Enjoy it.
I'm done with thread. Good luck everyone.
DramaFree11
09-08-23, 04:44
It looks like I struck a nerve with some of the people that I criticized. My intent wasn't to offend. I basically was just saying, "Hey, you took time off work (or whatever); you traveled to another country. Take some time to talk to people, learn about their culture and just show some respect. Treat the ladies like humans. Most of them aren't doing it because they want to. They are doing it because they need to feed their families. ".
Also, you're on vacation, leave the bullshit at home and do as the Romans (or Colombians) do. There is no reason to fight or be angry, you're lucky that you have the ability to travel. Enjoy it.
I'm done with thread. Good luck everyone.I loved your report, spot on. Some guys get easily offended.
Mr Enternational
09-08-23, 05:09
Treat the ladies like humans. Most of them aren't doing it because they want to. They are doing it because they need to feed their families.Is there any leeway for a male that may be a drug dealer who is doing it to feed their family? I think that is one of the great lies that mongers tell themselves. Because when I look around I see millions of people who are not doing it and still feeding their families. My manicurist in Santo Domingo is a great example. She came from Venezuela with nothing. Now she has a nice thriving business with all the latest beauty technology. She is fucking gorgeous. Could be out selling ass to "feed her family," but she ain't. Meanwhile there are citizens of said country that have been there way longer than her that will make every excuse why they need to sell ass (same as mongers do for them). It is quick easy money. That being said, I do not care if they are doing it to feed their family, to buy the latest fashion, or to get drugs; I would not treat them any different than anybody else on the planet.
Try reading back through the reports for the Estespeciallyrom Nypher who is black. This is about Americans who happen to be black. The same Spirit crowd. And there are most definitely enough of them to affect the experience of travelers.
It looks like I struck a nerve with some of the people that I criticized. My intent wasn't to offend. I basically was just saying, "Hey, you took time off work (or whatever); you traveled to another country. Take some time to talk to people, learn about their culture and just show some respect. Treat the ladies like humans. Most of them aren't doing it because they want to. They are doing it because they need to feed their families. ".
Also, you're on vacation, leave the bullshit at home and do as the Romans (or Colombians) do. There is no reason to fight or be angry, you're lucky that you have the ability to travel. Enjoy it.
I'm done with thread. Good luck everyone.
It looks like I struck a nerve with some of the people that I criticized. My intent wasn't to offend. I basically was just saying, "Hey, you took time off work (or whatever); you traveled to another country. Take some time to talk to people, learn about their culture and just show some respect. Treat the ladies like humans. Most of them aren't doing it because they want to. They are doing it because they need to feed their families. ".
Also, you're on vacation, leave the bullshit at home and do as the Romans (or Colombians) do. There is no reason to fight or be angry, you're lucky that you have the ability to travel. Enjoy it.
I'm done with thread. Good luck everyone.It doesn't matter what you said, someone out there will always find a reason to take it as offensive.
You know what's the irony about a topic like this is? Similar thing happened to Sosua years ago and when brothers who wanted to chill started speaking up about the behavior of others, the ones who like to "represent" came out of nowhere and played the race card and started accusing the chilling brothers who was calling out the nonsense of being against "their people" traveling. The "represent" crowd had no idea that ones who were calling out the nonsense that was happening was part of the same ethic group as them. It was so stupid but funny at the same time because that's always the default defense when they get all high on emotion and start opening their mouths. So lots of "chilling" brothers left Sosua to the other brothers who always want to "represent".
Now, we come to today and the same ones who always want to "represent" that caused allot of "chilling" brothers to leave, are now complaining about the new wave of post pandemic tourists coming in and doing the same type of behavior and worse that the "represent" crowd were defending years ago. So now they spread out and are over in Cartagena displaying the same behavior that they were mad about the post pandemic tourists were doing in Sosua.
Chicas went from being a vacation girlfriend who would stay with the gringo for a few days and cook while the gringo take them on all sorts of adventures, to now, they are telling gringos "if you ain't talking dollars then don't talk to me".
One Cartagena example I can give is I remember when I was in Dolce in 2019 and they had signs up about no recording. If I took my phone out, chicas would hide their face and tell me "no grabar" even the security would tell me I can't do that in there. Right after the pandemic lifted and went back to the same Dolce, just about everyone was in there recording and uploading to social media, even the chicas.
You can't make this shit up LOL.
Just give it time and time he cycle will repeat.
Elvis 2008
09-08-23, 17:05
Chicas went from being a vacation girlfriend who would stay with the gringo for a few days and cook while the gringo take them on all sorts of adventures, to now, they are telling gringos "if you ain't talking dollars then don't talk to me.That is definitely true of the hooker types, but if guys want that now, they have to move on from the hooker types. Almost all my gal's friends had American boyfriends.
Just give it time and time he cycle will repeat.I am not so sure what cycle you mean. The pandemic was a one time thing and the amount of fine ladies that made themselves available was unprecedented. What is different with Colombia is there are a lot of diamonds off the beaten path. If you want the prices a local gets, you need to go where the tourists do not go.
That is definitely true of the hooker types, but if guys want that now, they have to move on from the hooker types. Almost all my gal's friends had American boyfriends.
Sounds like the market has become saturated with Americans and also Sosua types. Probably Youtube and some other factors have cause some big changes from a decade ago.
DramaFree11
09-09-23, 03:31
Sounds like the market has become saturated with Americans and also Sosua types. Probably Youtube and some other factors have cause some big changes from a decade ago.I think the market has been saturated for a long time, but now it is becoming more obvious now. The one thing everybody has to realize is all destinations are getting more difficult and expensive. Hard work, some game, and a decent budget are required now.
Elvis is correct to look at the smaller cities in Latin America and Europe, this is where you can find some hot chicks, but that takes time and money. The easy days are over, but there is still plenty of hot chicks and some diamonds in the rough.
Gringos of all shapes and sizes, ages and hues are banging the same Colombian chicas that you guys are going to Colombia to bang. You must accept that and move on to the next pussy.
That is definitely true of the hooker types, but if guys want that now, they have to move on from the hooker types. Almost all my gal's friends had American boyfriends.
I am not so sure what cycle you mean. The pandemic was a one time thing and the amount of fine ladies that made themselves available was unprecedented. What is different with Colombia is there are a lot of diamonds off the beaten path. If you want the prices a local gets, you need to go where the tourists do not go.The "cycle" I was mentioning was the ones who are defending the bad behavior or staying silent about it is unknowingly encouraging it, then years later they will be the same ones to turn around and say how how things are ruined or bad because of what certain people were doing.
The pandemic brought along the YouTubers, and the YouTubers brought along more of the crowd who wanted to "represent". So more people who just want to chill are getting away from certain areas that were too heavily advertised to attract that crowd.
On my current trip I did mostly Barranquilla and Santa Marta before returning to Cartagena. Next time I'm going further out.
That is definitely true of the hooker types, but if guys want that now, they have to move on from the hooker types. Almost all my gal's friends had American boyfriends.
I am not so sure what cycle you mean. The pandemic was a one time thing and the amount of fine ladies that made themselves available was unprecedented. What is different with Colombia is there are a lot of diamonds off the beaten path. If you want the prices a local gets, you need to go where the tourists do not go.Elvis. I'm guessing you're no spring chicken. I am not either as someone in his mid 40's. I think he's referring to economic and monger cycles. Look at currency exchange and the economy. I've been mongering off and on since 2003 or so. Back then it was Argentina and Thailand (both had economy issues). Then Brazil. A little later Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic followed by Colombia. For next I'd look at exchange and value for $$. I thnk Brazil and Argentina may make an appearance again and we'll probably see Venezuela as a destination in 5-6 years if they get a stable government.
They're not spoiling they're being extorted because the women want more money to go with them --I've been told by numerous women this is the case. So yes they are both raising the prices for us and also making the girls more difficult to deal with because they are hardened by having to work for these guys.I have heard this as well. I'm not sure what the issue is, but if the girls are being honest, then there's something that turns them off. I will say that I do have a handful of black expat friends I go out with and they have no issues. I think it's just when there are bigger groups of guys. But this is just my armchair sociology. To be honest, I'm sure a big group of fratty white dudes would be horribly unpleasant as well.
PerkinWarbeck
09-11-23, 01:54
All I can do is laugh at the irony in this.
A while back when I said gringos were monopolizing chicas time by flying them out the country for weeks at a time I remember being called a conspiracy theorist (general form section). Even though I saw multiple chicas status in Croatia, Italy, and Paris, along with the usual Cancun, Tulum, Dominican Republic, Panama and Ecuador.
When I said that I saw big paying gringos sending chicas lots of money in advance to secure their availability or paying allot to make sure she's there for them, I remember being called a liar.
Allot of the chicas I see when I go to Cartagena have gringo boyfriends that send them $500 to $1000 a month for them to not sell themselves in the clubs and street but yet they still take on selective customers.I very rarely dabble in the paid scene since I lived there, but the girls I've been seeing aren't even working ladies under any circumstances. They are actual university girls hoping to get a crappy 1. 2 M COP a month job when they graduate, OR strike it big and get a European or American boyfriend to take them out.
I need to remind you all again. The vast majority of women who engage in the trade are not from Cartagena. They would be shamed and ostracized from their family if it was known that they were in this line of work. Colombians, and especially costeņos, are culturally conservative, and they have huge families. All of which will tattle on them if something goes wrong.
The girls you see at Torre De Reloj are from Venezuela, Medellin, Cali, or maybe Barranquilla. They come because they can charge higher prices. The problem is that living in Cartagena is very expensive, so they don't tend to stay there. It just costs to much and they need to get a lot more big ticket clients to make it worth it. It's why girls will only do a few weeks at a budget hotel and then go to Barranquilla.
PerkinWarbeck
09-11-23, 01:56
I would definitely recommend Barranquilla if you guys are just looking for women. Not much to do during the day, but the prices are far lower, and the quality is about the same. Not as tourist friendly and a bit more dangerous, but nothing crazy.
They're not spoiling they're being extorted because the women want more money to go with them --I've been told by numerous women this is the case. So yes they are both raising the prices for us and also making the girls more difficult to deal with because they are hardened by having to work for these guys.You are aware these girls are more than likely lying to you to make you feel special. As an AA I can undoubtedly tell you the girls love us and indeed might favor the brothers over the classic geriatric gringo that seems to dominate this thread. Believe it or not young girls love to party, listen to loud music and show off. I know right its a shocker LOL. Remember most of the costenas are afro colombians part of the diaspora. Our cultures arent much different. Also they tell us the same things "I don't like old men and I charge them more etc" Prices have raised but that's the reality of life. Cartagena has exploded in overall tourism and popularity. Simply adapt or move on to a cheaper place.
Nypher who is black..LOL I highly doubt this. Anyone can claim to be anything on the internet -.
I would definitely recommend Barranquilla if you guys are just looking for women. Not much to do during the day, but the prices are far lower, and the quality is about the same. Not as tourist friendly and a bit more dangerous, but nothing crazy.Cartagena is alot more fun though. Barranquilla is extremely boring. But I think a better place to find a vacation girlfriend.
I would definitely recommend Barranquilla if you guys are just looking for women. Not much to do during the day, but the prices are far lower, and the quality is about the same. Not as tourist friendly and a bit more dangerous, but nothing crazy.Funny story, on my drive back from Santa Martha when I was crossing that big bridge, the GPS told me to stay to the right and I did. When I got to the toll booth to pay the toll the woman in the booth was talking to my chica and I just kept hearing her say "Pelogriso". Its about 2 pm in the afternoon so I'm not giving it any thought. About 10 minutes later I realize I'm in what looked like an industrial area or shipping yard and I ask my girl what the woman at the toll booth was talking about and she said the lady said to be careful driving back to Cartegena as there are Pirates and robbers on the road in Barranquilla. At first I laughed it off because now I'm looking out the window, we were in an area that looked like River Walk in Chicago, it was clean, crisp new sidewalks, the road was freshly paved and marked, nicely cut grass and trees, nice parks, like they were planning to build a river front convention center or something. So of course, I'm thinking she's just messing with me but now I'm going to put it into consideration as I still have to go back to do sight seeing.
I very rarely dabble in the paid scene since I lived there, but the girls I've been seeing aren't even working ladies under any circumstances. They are actual university girls hoping to get a crappy 1. 2 M COP a month job when they graduate, OR strike it big and get a European or American boyfriend to take them out.
I need to remind you all again. The vast majority of women who engage in the trade are not from Cartagena. They would be shamed and ostracized from their family if it was known that they were in this line of work. Colombians, and especially costeos, are culturally conservative, and they have huge families. All of which will tattle on them if something goes wrong.
The girls you see at Torre De Reloj are from Venezuela, Medellin, Cali, or maybe Barranquilla. They come because they can charge higher prices. The problem is that living in Cartagena is very expensive, so they don't tend to stay there. It just costs to much and they need to get a lot more big ticket clients to make it worth it. It's why girls will only do a few weeks at a budget hotel and then go to Barranquilla.Can confirm.
My main chica is Costenos. She lives about an hour away outside Cartegena where girls are 50 K pesos and hour (Venezuelan). Shame in Colombia is similar to how it is in my country where no one wants to bring shame to the family as the whole neighborhood would talk bad about them. Most of the chicas I know who work in Centro clock tower or the 3 main Discos come from Barranquilla, Santa Martha and Medellin.
This report is not about to find women, prices paid or anything about the P4 P, so feel free to skip if that's what your looking for, this report is annoyances that happened outside of the P4 P scene.
Normally there are some bad experiences, but the good times outweigh it so much that I can overlook the negative experiences but this trip, things tilted in the other direction and I want to believe it was because of the timing, end of summer + Labor Day weekend.
Once I returned to Cartagena to finish the last week just about every day something negative happened that outweighs the positive.
Private boat I normally rent from 8 am to 4 pm for $400 is now $500 minimum and its not even high season.
Sunset Cruise.
My chica said she wanted to go on a Sunset Cruise on a Catamaran and I saw it leaving the dock that evening. I call up a tour guide and tell them exactly what I wanted. They booked it, I sent them the money, and sent me the place to meet for the following day. Following day my girl and I show up at the dock at 4:30 getting ready to board the boat, they tell us were not on the list. We call the tour guide and they give us the information of the person whose there with the list for the boat. We call them and they tell us to go down the pier more and we get to this little ass speed boat, which is the lowest tier for the sunset cruise. We get on, and there is this older couple there who look like thy don't belong there just like my chica and I because were too overly dressed for a speed boat. We get to talking and the same thing happened to them. They wanted the Bona Vida Catamaran sunset cruise and ended up on a speed boat.
Pao Pao.
Tried to go to Bora Bora but they said it was full but Pao Pao was the sister island with a similar experience. So much BS!
So we booked it for my chica and I. We get to the dock and its 28 K COP dock tax per person. We sign up and sit down. Then about 30 minutes later all we hear is Pao Pao this way and everyone rush up to the boat leaving us in confusion. No we at the back of the line to board the boat and a lady comes up to us offering beds and lounge chairs so I pay another 80 K COP thinking these chairs are in a separate area. We last to board and it was a lancha type boat and they boarded from the front so last to board ended sitting at the very front of the boat in the sun and feeling every single wave on the choppy water.
We get to the island and first to get off the boat. They searching bags, so I'm thinking, (I'm from the hood, I'm use to this shit), I give them the bag and they toss up the entire bag, I had a bottle of Titos in a bag they take it and say no outside liquor allowed, then point to the sign saying it SMH. I've done day trips to Cocoliso, Isla Del la Sol, and Luxury VIP and they never done no shit like this. Fuck it, whatever, lets go enjoy the best of it, they point us to the reserved chairs and its all the way is the front by the water in the hot ass sun and the umbrella covering the bed is this fishnet looking cover and the sun is beaming all through it like its not even there. We ask them to move us since there were 3 extra seats in the shade and they said they couldn't because the beds are reserved. The whole day no one ever sat in those empty chairs in the shade. Drinks were overpriced and cost extra. Included free lunch, I had the fish my chica had the chicken. Fish was dried out chicken was decent, I order empanadas and just ate the beef and chicken and tossed the cheese. We spend most of the time just taking pictures and when we went to the bathroom there was 4 extra chairs in the back of the island completely shaded empty. At this point I'm just over it and want to relax. We go in the water and about 2:30 a guy comes yelling everyone out the water the boat leaves in 30 minutes. WTF! So the boat left the dock around 8 am, it takes about an hour to get to the island and we are leaving at 3 pm? I remember other islands were 4 pm cut off and we get back to the dock at 5 pm. Fuck it, I'm done, I have to make sure were the first ones on the boat to get good seats out of the sun and to avoid the front from the choppy water. I go to the bar to pay the tab, they tell me I have to get it from the waiter, I'm running around trying to find the waiter hes no where to be found. Finally found him 20 minutes later to pay the tab so he can give me the pass to leave the island (if you don't know, they won't let you leave the island unless you give them a pass to prove you paid your bill). Found him, paid, got the pass and now were in the middle of the line somewhere to get on the boat. Luckily we got good seats out of the sun. The boat starts moving and the ship mate starts randomly have people switch seats (I know what hes doing but he can fuck off cause I'm already pissed). He gets to my row and when we boarded I specifically sat on the right side of the boat because I knew the sun was going to be on the left and my chica took the isle seat so she can get the best coverage from the sun. He wants us to swap seats with a couple on the left side. I just shake my head no and point to the sun then point to the seat and he moves on. We get back to the dock, get off the boat to take Uber and another private boat came in right before us filled with loud mouth sisters and its clear they were from down south by that accent and they just throwing shots at me and my chica and just mean mugging me and giving my chica stank faces. We a good 10 feet from them over by the vendor buying mango slices while they bunched up by Door 3 and its just comment after comment after comment while we waiting for the Uber. My chica ask me why they looking at her like that but I'm already frustrated and don't feel like being confrontational so I went passive aggressive and start joking with my chica and laughing, asking her where she wants to go for dinner then we crossed the street to the other side by the walls to wait for the uber and on our way away from Centro. They still there being loud as fuck like they purposely wanted me to hear what they saying to get a reaction out of me but ignoring them just makes everyone around them see why most men back home aren't getting involved with them.
Bora Bora.
Since we couldn't get Bora Bora initially I booked it online for another day. Myself, my chica and her 2 friends. $285.
We get to the dock and as usual I have to pay the dock fee, in cash. It was 28 K COP per person. So I'm immediately out about 100 K COP. We sign in and they start offering extras. Extra for VIP and Extra for beds. Before I knew it I was out another 500 K COP. This time I know better, and we sat at the check in desk and as soon as we heard Bora bora we went right to the front of the line got good seats in the middle of the boat on the sunny side while most people sat in the shaded side. They didn't realize once the boat reversed from the dock and turned around, the shaded side will now be the sunny side and vice versa jajaja. We were good and shaded for the hour trip. Boat mate came again trying to balance the boat by moving people around, I refused again. We get to the island, they searching bags for liquor. We get to the VIP area first and the beds I brought were balcony beds but under a tree this time and unfortunately my chica said it stunk like bat shit (I don't know what bat shit smells like but there was a strong ammonia smell). We ask to move beds and they refused saying the beds are reserved (I'm thinking everyone is already here and no one is in the beds) I was told only 35 people were allowed in VIP area but as time went on more boats came, in total about 3 speed boats and 1 lancha type boat came to drop off people on bora bora along with private boats. The VIP area was packed and the normal area only had a few people. My chica and her friends were running around taking pictures everywhere while I just relaxed drinking and watching people go in and out the water. I decided to go in and there is a shit ton of dead coral as soon as you enter the water so careful where you step. I get out and back to the bed and all of a sudden I hear "can I get a waterrrrrrrrrrr" mad loud. Without even looking I already knew what to expect. My chica returned with her friends and saw me drinking this yellow, blue and green drink, they tasted it and liked it so I ordered 2 rounds. Then I start to hear the comments coming from a group of sisters sitting 2 rows behind. I can't play my music on my speaker (Not allowed on the island) so I can't drown them out. My chica and her friends notice the nasty looks, start asking me why they looking at them, I tell them "this is the end results of certain women telling men for years I can do bad all by myself, and now they are doing bad all by themself" She doesn't get it and I don't have the time to explain. So ignore them, have fun, that's how you win. This guy was walking around with lobsters and crabs my chica and one of her friends wanted one but I knew once the cook it and it shrinks its going to be little to nothing so I got them one each, paying 200 COP a piece, cash only, Again, dinks cost extra, and food was basic so I stuffed myself with 4 orders of Chicken empanadas, the cheese sucked, and so did the beef. Back into the water with the girls to cool off and at 2:30 like clockwork the guy comes and tell everyone to get out the water. Another sister I didn't see at all so she must have been over by the DJ booth was in the water next to me pissed of how they got to the island, only had an hour, then ate lunch, then they just got in the water and its too early to go. We get to talking, I find out its her first time in Colombia on a girls trip for Labor Day weekend. She's cool so I tell her get dressed quickly, pay your tab, and sit in the middle to the back and avoid the front of the boat and enjoy the ride back. She starts laughing and comments how I must come here all the time to which I responded "my first time on this island" then while laughing I said "lots of mistakes, that always cost money to fix, but I learn as I go". I then tell her these islands are just to take pictures to show you been there, I then pointed to a woman who changed her swimsuit about 4 times and was taking lots of pictures to fool people online that she's been here 4 different times, she starts laughing and says "you wrong for that, but you right, I didn't even notice it's a different swimsuit". We had a good laugh about it. I paid up and headed to the dock, there were 4 boats at the dock for everyone to leave the island at the same time. And the line was crazy long. It doesn't matter what boat anyone gets on as they are all going back. I timed it so we get on a boat to be on the right side, some lady comes and pissed off she's last to get on and don't want to sit in the sun so she refused to board the boat and had to wait for the next one. Boat starts going, choppy water too bad for those in the front. We get back to the dock, and again the loud mouths so I took the girls immediately across the street to wait for the uber.
Playa Blanca.
Went here with my chica. Oh yea, they tried to get me. They put extra drinks on my tab and expected me to pay for it. I know I had 3, my girl had 3. And we had 1 meal each but they came with 10 drinks on the bill. First they tried to over charge for the cabana and my chica must have told them to go fuck themselves because we had our own cooler with drinks, all we needed was the cabana and food. So they dropped the price. When the bill came they added a 10% service fee and wanted to add a 20% surcharge for me using a card. My chica went off when they called her a "gringo mouthpiece", I'm guessing that some type of disrespectful term cause she was not having any of it. They removed the extra drinks, I paid in cash and told my chica to tell them "you aint getting no service fee cause you tried to scam me" we hopped on the boat and we was out.
Centro.
So we wanted to check out Townhouse in the day time as they have the rooftop pools. We take the Uber to Clock tower and walk through as its faster. We don't expect much people but it was packed, Cruise ship came in. The damn little kids who use to be outside Delirium in the night time begging for money and food are now there in the daytime. For 3 blocks they kept bothering us for money until we turned a corner and saw some cops and they scattered.
Centro.
My girl had a craving for tacos. So it was about 9 pm and we went to LOS Tacos Gordo. (They were good but small).
So we had 4 orders and couldn't finish the last order. Were heading back to the apartment to drink so I just said lets get 2 more orders to go and we just chill on the balcony and drink and eat. We get the food and leave. I request the uber but they keep canceling so I have to set it outside the clock tower. We start walking and I didn't want to walk by Delirium so we crossed over to Space / Dolce side and kept walking on the opposite side of the street because the other side was lots of people. We passing by Monkey Bar and right before we hit Alquimico I hear, "yo I know you", "food for me", "me hungry" I'm ignoring it while we keep walking until one of them comes in from of me and points to the bag saying the same shit so I say "es por tarde" I'm still walking cause I'm not stopping for nobody and my chica in 2 steps Infront. Then I hear the same guy say in english "you fucking and-word". So I look at him and say "tal vez, pero tengo mucho plata, tu, tu tienes nada. Que mas? Quieres algo? Tu trabajar para eso". My girl overheard what I said with my limited spanish but she didn't catch what I was responding to since she doesn't speak much english. She grab my hand and start pulling me saying "mucho problemas" so I turn and see 4 cops across the street and she pulls me towards them and we keep walking. These cops looks like they fresh out of high school, mostly women and crazy young, I wouldn't expect them to handle shit if shit goes down and think they are just there to display presence. I let it be, got the Uber and was back to the apartment. I tried to explain to my chica what happened, and she said there is allot of things happening in Centro lately and I need to be careful Centro have gotten worse.
Next rip, I think ill only be stopping in Cartegena to pick up my chica and were going elsewhere.
.......My chica said she wanted to go on a Sunset Cruise on a Catamaran .......Thanks for communicating your experience. Is your chica pro or non-pro?
Mr Enternational
09-12-23, 20:55
the lady said to be careful driving back to Cartegena as there are Pirates and robbers on the road in Barranquilla. At first I laughed it off because now I'm looking out the window, we were in an area that looked like River Walk in Chicago, it was clean, crisp new sidewalks, the road was freshly paved and marked, nicely cut grass and trees, nice parks, like they were planning to build a river front convention center or something. So of course, I'm thinking she's just messing with me but now I'm going to put it into consideration as I still have to go back to do sight seeing.Yep. That area is dangerous. Not at the actual malecon and caiman, but not far from it there is a roundabout and gas station where you will get got. It is that industrial area that you saw.
PerkinWarbeck
09-12-23, 23:33
Nypher,
Why are you still doing pasadías? It's worth the money to just spend a night at a resort. No touts and a way better experience.
PerkinWarbeck
09-12-23, 23:35
Cartagena is alot more fun though. Barranquilla is extremely boring. But I think a better place to find a vacation girlfriend.The fun is kinda overrated honestly. When I'm living there, I very rarely go out to party. I take my muchacha to get arepas, ice cream, and walk around the mall. That's about it. The only real fun is the beaches down the coast, but I only do that once a month if that.
The Tall Man
09-14-23, 17:39
This report is not about to find women, prices paid or anything about the P4 P, so feel free to skip if that's what your looking for, this report is annoyances that happened outside of the P4 P scene.
Normally there are some bad experiences, but the good times outweigh it so much that I can overlook the negative experiences but this trip, things tilted in the other direction and I want to believe it was because of the timing, end of summer + Labor Day weekend.
Once I returned to Cartagena to finish the last week just about every day something negative happened that outweighs the positive.
Private boat I normally rent from 8 am to 4 pm for $400 is now $500 minimum and its not even high season.
Sunset Cruise.
My chica said she wanted to go on a Sunset Cruise on a Catamaran and I saw it leaving the dock that evening. I call up a tour guide and tell them exactly what I wanted. They booked it, I sent them the money, and sent me the place to meet for the following day. Following day my girl and I show up at the dock at 4:30 getting ready to board the boat, they tell us were not on the list. We call the tour guide and they give us the information of the person whose there with the list for the boat. We call them and they tell us to go down the pier more and we get to this little ass speed boat, which is the lowest tier for the sunset cruise. We get on, and there is this older couple there who look like thy don't belong there just like my chica and I because were too overly dressed for a speed boat. We get to talking and the same thing happened to them. They wanted the Bona Vida Catamaran sunset cruise and ended up on a speed boat.Many many many share the same experience as you, Cartagena has become such a hustle and hassle to visit (both the mainland and the islands) that it's no fun anymore. I always give a firm but polite "No gracias" then the second time I am instantly in f*ck you mode, I simply don't care anymore.
TTM.
CowboyCheeba
09-17-23, 08:24
Hey guys I'm in MDE and having a great time.
Hotel is chica friendly, but I know in CTG my hotel is too fancy to be chica friendly.
So in terms of finding chicas I've used mileroticos / phootprepagos and that's been fine so far.
I know the methods in CTG are different, so I wanted to ask for some of your experiences.
I see a lot of folks mentioning the motels / short stay places. Any of note that are super clean?
Do any of you actually go to a chica's location / apt if they have, I always feel that it could be going into an unknown situation vs a neutral site or your room.
Since my room won't be an option, I still want to maximize my fun while out there.
Are there clubs like FaseDos / La Isla / Mansion etc out there worth checking out?
Thanks for any tips.
Thanks for communicating your experience. Is your chica pro or non-pro?I don't know how to categorize her.
When I met her years ago it was her first night out there and didn't know a damn thing about anything. I got away with murder for the amount of time she spent with me and how much I paid her for those few weeks.
After 2 years in Dolce I watched her go from me paying her 400 k a day (all day and all night) to charging $200 an hour, she then managed to get a few 40+ year old married gringos going through divorce to support her every month by sending her money like clockwork, and when they come for that 1 week of the year she's their "vacation girlfriend" or they fly her her out to another Latin country for a week.
She haven't had to actively work the clubs for over a year due to those gringos sending money, she only goes out when someone is going to pay top dollar, but better them than me. I guess divorce makes people do odd things.
Since she don't really need my money, her and I have a different arrangement that's long term, I guess it's a perk of getting with her before she got overly exposed to the inflated prices but I know I'm the long game.
I don't know if I can call her a pro, non pro, semi pro, retired pro, etc. I just call her a hustler LOL, and she calls me Maestro.
Mr Enternational
09-17-23, 19:29
I don't know how to categorize her.That is an easy one. Is she coming if you are not giving her money?
Nypher,
Why are you still doing pasadas? It's worth the money to just spend a night at a resort. No touts and a way better experience.We were doing day trips to get away from the usual loudmouths since I know they only stick to a few places LOL, every day I wanted to do something different. We planned it out to go where the usual loudmouths aren't but then ran into the the female loudmouth variants.
I ran into a few chill brothers at the airport and they told me next time check out Isla Palma. It's more for couples but requires a night stay to enjoy everything.
Next time instead of going for a weeks I'll only do a few days using Cartagena for entry and exit since it's my only straight flight option.
Might do a few water parks. I hear Napoles is nice.
LOL I highly doubt this. Anyone can claim to be anything on the internet -.30+ years of being in America I'm used to it LOL.
Lots of awkward interviews because my name is British and when they see me they expect a Daquan, or Tyrone, or Jamal, or Tykeim, or Deandre.
Just because I don't want others to label me as a negative stereotype that certain individuals try to uplift or reclaim with ignorance doesn't mean I'm not black. But as I understand, and I always say, they take the worst examples of us and apply that as the default baseline for all of us, so when they come across a brother who can actually hold a conversation without repeating the same "what I'm saying is, you know what I'm saying, like I said, you feel me," and all that Ebonics nonsense and hip hop / rap look all of a sudden he's not what is considered "black".
That is an easy one. Is she coming if you are not giving her money?I don't pay her directly by handing money to her when she come see me but I would say its indirectly paying her.
While she's with me I take on all expenses, normal stuff.
She might want to go shopping for a new outfit to go out in but that's little to nothing. It's more like I'm offsetting her daily expenses while I'm there and she's with me so she doesn't have to spend the money she receives.
Sometimes usually just ask me to bring her something when I'm coming and it's always something minor like perfume.
But I'm the long game due to I took over helping her with her Visa, I went down last month to go with her to the Embassy just incase, but of course something happened so it postponed a few months. I know once she gets that visa she's gone LOL, if that Visa is approved and she stays around then I'm back to the drawing board to figure out what's her endgame.
Yep. That area is dangerous. Not at the actual malecon and caiman, but not far from it there is a roundabout and gas station where you will get got. It is that industrial area that you saw.I think I went down that road and at the roundabout I exited too early and ended up at a gas station. After topping off the tank we continued down and had to cross a dirt road to get back on the main highway.
Hindsight, there was allot of stuff I would never do again if I was to take that trip in the future.
Like keep Waze open for speed cameras.
When passing through that town between Cartagena and Barranquilla where they have mad speed bumps in a row in 3 groups, don't stop to buy coconuts or anything.
When going between Barranquilla and Santa Martha on that thin strip of land, don't stop to take pictures.
And big ass iguanas can run across the street at anytime so maintain speed and let what happens happen.
The more I branch out the more I'm learning, with mistakes LOL.
PerkinWarbeck
09-17-23, 22:34
Hey guys I'm in MDE and having a great time.
Hotel is chica friendly, but I know in CTG my hotel is too fancy to be chica friendly.
So in terms of finding chicas I've used mileroticos / phootprepagos and that's been fine so far.
I know the methods in CTG are different, so I wanted to ask for some of your experiences.
I see a lot of folks mentioning the motels / short stay places. Any of note that are super clean?
Do any of you actually go to a chica's location / apt if they have, I always feel that it could be going into an unknown situation vs a neutral site or your room.
Since my room won't be an option, I still want to maximize my fun while out there.
Are there clubs like FaseDos / La Isla / Mansion etc out there worth checking out?
Thanks for any tips.The sex motels are super basic, but they tend to be clean. I've only used them a handful of times though. In Cartagena, it is more likely that the girls from Mileroticos or Skokka, will have an incall in Bocagrande, Bosque, or Marbella. In calls in those areas are perfectly safe. They set up in those areas because tourists are nearby and it's more comfortable for you. I will say that be careful in Bosque after dark as it can get somewhat sketchy (not terribly so). There are some girls who will have them further east, but it's not safe for foreigners to go so don't bother.
There aren't dedicated casas or spas here for sex work. The spas you see are straight up, though the ladies may finish you by hand if it's private enough. Also, they will give you their number to set up something offsite later.
LOL I highly doubt this. Anyone can claim to be anything on the internet -.Except not everyone like me has friends who actually live in Cartagena and know people.
Hilarious. They love you so much that the whole beach swarms all over why'all and won't leave you alone till I they get your money. It's like pelicans with the fishermen are out They just surround you and harass you.
You are aware these girls are more than likely lying to you to make you feel special. As an AA I can undoubtedly tell you the girls love us and indeed might favor the brothers over the classic geriatric gringo that seems to dominate this thread. Believe it or not young girls love to party, listen to loud music and show off. I know right its a shocker LOL. Remember most of the costenas are afro colombians part of the diaspora. Our cultures arent much different. Also they tell us the same things "I don't like old men and I charge them more etc" Prices have raised but that's the reality of life. Cartagena has exploded in overall tourism and popularity. Simply adapt or move on to a cheaper place.
The Sosua effect is kicking in.
This report is not about to find women, prices paid or anything about the P4 P, so feel free to skip if that's what your looking for, this report is annoyances that happened outside of the P4 P scene.
Normally there are some bad experiences, but the good times outweigh it so much that I can overlook the negative experiences but this trip, things tilted in the other direction and I want to believe it was because of the timing, end of summer + Labor Day weekend.
Once I returned to Cartagena to finish the last week just about every day something negative happened that outweighs the positive.
Private boat I normally rent from 8 am to 4 pm for $400 is now $500 minimum and its not even high season.
Sunset Cruise.
My chica said she wanted to go on a Sunset Cruise on a Catamaran and I saw it leaving the dock that evening. I call up a tour guide and tell them exactly what I wanted. They booked it, I sent them the money, and sent me the place to meet for the following day. Following day my girl and I show up at the dock at 4:30 getting ready to board the boat, they tell us were not on the list. We call the tour guide and they give us the information of the person whose there with the list for the boat. We call them and they tell us to go down the pier more and we get to this little ass speed boat, which is the lowest tier for the sunset cruise. We get on, and there is this older couple there who look like thy don't belong there just like my chica and I because were too overly dressed for a speed boat. We get to talking and the same thing happened to them. They wanted the Bona Vida Catamaran sunset cruise and ended up on a speed boat.
Pao Pao.
Tried to go to Bora Bora but they said it was full but Pao Pao was the sister island with a similar experience. So much BS!
So we booked it for my chica and I. We get to the dock and its 28 K COP dock tax per person. We sign up and sit down. Then about 30 minutes later all we hear is Pao Pao this way and everyone rush up to the boat leaving us in confusion. No we at the back of the line to board the boat and a lady comes up to us offering beds and lounge chairs so I pay another 80 K COP thinking these chairs are in a separate area. We last to board and it was a lancha type boat and they boarded from the front so last to board ended sitting at the very front of the boat in the sun and feeling every single wave on the choppy water.
We get to the island and first to get off the boat. They searching bags, so I'm thinking, (I'm from the hood, I'm use to this shit), I give them the bag and they toss up the entire bag, I had a bottle of Titos in a bag they take it and say no outside liquor allowed, then point to the sign saying it SMH. I've done day trips to Cocoliso, Isla Del la Sol, and Luxury VIP and they never done no shit like this. Fuck it, whatever, lets go enjoy the best of it, they point us to the reserved chairs and its all the way is the front by the water in the hot ass sun and the umbrella covering the bed is this fishnet looking cover and the sun is beaming all through it like its not even there. We ask them to move us since there were 3 extra seats in the shade and they said they couldn't because the beds are reserved. The whole day no one ever sat in those empty chairs in the shade. Drinks were overpriced and cost extra. Included free lunch, I had the fish my chica had the chicken. Fish was dried out chicken was decent, I order empanadas and just ate the beef and chicken and tossed the cheese. We spend most of the time just taking pictures and when we went to the bathroom there was 4 extra chairs in the back of the island completely shaded empty. At this point I'm just over it and want to relax. We go in the water and about 2:30 a guy comes yelling everyone out the water the boat leaves in 30 minutes. WTF! So the boat left the dock around 8 am, it takes about an hour to get to the island and we are leaving at 3 pm? I remember other islands were 4 pm cut off and we get back to the dock at 5 pm. Fuck it, I'm done, I have to make sure were the first ones on the boat to get good seats out of the sun and to avoid the front from the choppy water. I go to the bar to pay the tab, they tell me I have to get it from the waiter, I'm running around trying to find the waiter hes no where to be found. Finally found him 20 minutes later to pay the tab so he can give me the pass to leave the island (if you don't know, they won't let you leave the island unless you give them a pass to prove you paid your bill). Found him, paid, got the pass and now were in the middle of the line somewhere to get on the boat. Luckily we got good seats out of the sun. The boat starts moving and the ship mate starts randomly have people switch seats (I know what hes doing but he can fuck off cause I'm already pissed). He gets to my row and when we boarded I specifically sat on the right side of the boat because I knew the sun was going to be on the left and my chica took the isle seat so she can get the best coverage from the sun. He wants us to swap seats with a couple on the left side. I just shake my head no and point to the sun then point to the seat and he moves on. We get back to the dock, get off the boat to take Uber and another private boat came in right before us filled with loud mouth sisters and its clear they were from down south by that accent and they just throwing shots at me and my chica and just mean mugging me and giving my chica stank faces. We a good 10 feet from them over by the vendor buying mango slices while they bunched up by Door 3 and its just comment after comment after comment while we waiting for the Uber. My chica ask me why they looking at her like that but I'm already frustrated and don't feel like being confrontational so I went passive aggressive and start joking with my chica and laughing, asking her where she wants to go for dinner then we crossed the street to the other side by the walls to wait for the uber and on our way away from Centro. They still there being loud as fuck like they purposely wanted me to hear what they saying to get a reaction out of me but ignoring them just makes everyone around them see why most men back home aren't getting involved with them.
Bora Bora.
Since we couldn't get Bora Bora initially I booked it online for another day. Myself, my chica and her 2 friends. $285.
We get to the dock and as usual I have to pay the dock fee, in cash. It was 28 K COP per person. So I'm immediately out about 100 K COP. We sign in and they start offering extras. Extra for VIP and Extra for beds. Before I knew it I was out another 500 K COP. This time I know better, and we sat at the check in desk and as soon as we heard Bora bora we went right to the front of the line got good seats in the middle of the boat on the sunny side while most people sat in the shaded side. They didn't realize once the boat reversed from the dock and turned around, the shaded side will now be the sunny side and vice versa jajaja. We were good and shaded for the hour trip. Boat mate came again trying to balance the boat by moving people around, I refused again. We get to the island, they searching bags for liquor. We get to the VIP area first and the beds I brought were balcony beds but under a tree this time and unfortunately my chica said it stunk like bat shit (I don't know what bat shit smells like but there was a strong ammonia smell). We ask to move beds and they refused saying the beds are reserved (I'm thinking everyone is already here and no one is in the beds) I was told only 35 people were allowed in VIP area but as time went on more boats came, in total about 3 speed boats and 1 lancha type boat came to drop off people on bora bora along with private boats. The VIP area was packed and the normal area only had a few people. My chica and her friends were running around taking pictures everywhere while I just relaxed drinking and watching people go in and out the water. I decided to go in and there is a shit ton of dead coral as soon as you enter the water so careful where you step. I get out and back to the bed and all of a sudden I hear "can I get a waterrrrrrrrrrr" mad loud. Without even looking I already knew what to expect. My chica returned with her friends and saw me drinking this yellow, blue and green drink, they tasted it and liked it so I ordered 2 rounds. Then I start to hear the comments coming from a group of sisters sitting 2 rows behind. I can't play my music on my speaker (Not allowed on the island) so I can't drown them out. My chica and her friends notice the nasty looks, start asking me why they looking at them, I tell them "this is the end results of certain women telling men for years I can do bad all by myself, and now they are doing bad all by themself" She doesn't get it and I don't have the time to explain. So ignore them, have fun, that's how you win. This guy was walking around with lobsters and crabs my chica and one of her friends wanted one but I knew once the cook it and it shrinks its going to be little to nothing so I got them one each, paying 200 COP a piece, cash only, Again, dinks cost extra, and food was basic so I stuffed myself with 4 orders of Chicken empanadas, the cheese sucked, and so did the beef. Back into the water with the girls to cool off and at 2:30 like clockwork the guy comes and tell everyone to get out the water. Another sister I didn't see at all so she must have been over by the DJ booth was in the water next to me pissed of how they got to the island, only had an hour, then ate lunch, then they just got in the water and its too early to go. We get to talking, I find out its her first time in Colombia on a girls trip for Labor Day weekend. She's cool so I tell her get dressed quickly, pay your tab, and sit in the middle to the back and avoid the front of the boat and enjoy the ride back. She starts laughing and comments how I must come here all the time to which I responded "my first time on this island" then while laughing I said "lots of mistakes, that always cost money to fix, but I learn as I go". I then tell her these islands are just to take pictures to show you been there, I then pointed to a woman who changed her swimsuit about 4 times and was taking lots of pictures to fool people online that she's been here 4 different times, she starts laughing and says "you wrong for that, but you right, I didn't even notice it's a different swimsuit". We had a good laugh about it. I paid up and headed to the dock, there were 4 boats at the dock for everyone to leave the island at the same time. And the line was crazy long. It doesn't matter what boat anyone gets on as they are all going back. I timed it so we get on a boat to be on the right side, some lady comes and pissed off she's last to get on and don't want to sit in the sun so she refused to board the boat and had to wait for the next one. Boat starts going, choppy water too bad for those in the front. We get back to the dock, and again the loud mouths so I took the girls immediately across the street to wait for the uber.
Playa Blanca.
Went here with my chica. Oh yea, they tried to get me. They put extra drinks on my tab and expected me to pay for it. I know I had 3, my girl had 3. And we had 1 meal each but they came with 10 drinks on the bill. First they tried to over charge for the cabana and my chica must have told them to go fuck themselves because we had our own cooler with drinks, all we needed was the cabana and food. So they dropped the price. When the bill came they added a 10% service fee and wanted to add a 20% surcharge for me using a card. My chica went off when they called her a "gringo mouthpiece", I'm guessing that some type of disrespectful term cause she was not having any of it. They removed the extra drinks, I paid in cash and told my chica to tell them "you aint getting no service fee cause you tried to scam me" we hopped on the boat and we was out.
Centro.
So we wanted to check out Townhouse in the day time as they have the rooftop pools. We take the Uber to Clock tower and walk through as its faster. We don't expect much people but it was packed, Cruise ship came in. The damn little kids who use to be outside Delirium in the night time begging for money and food are now there in the daytime. For 3 blocks they kept bothering us for money until we turned a corner and saw some cops and they scattered.
Centro.
My girl had a craving for tacos. So it was about 9 pm and we went to LOS Tacos Gordo. (They were good but small).
So we had 4 orders and couldn't finish the last order. Were heading back to the apartment to drink so I just said lets get 2 more orders to go and we just chill on the balcony and drink and eat. We get the food and leave. I request the uber but they keep canceling so I have to set it outside the clock tower. We start walking and I didn't want to walk by Delirium so we crossed over to Space / Dolce side and kept walking on the opposite side of the street because the other side was lots of people. We passing by Monkey Bar and right before we hit Alquimico I hear, "yo I know you", "food for me", "me hungry" I'm ignoring it while we keep walking until one of them comes in from of me and points to the bag saying the same shit so I say "es por tarde" I'm still walking cause I'm not stopping for nobody and my chica in 2 steps Infront. Then I hear the same guy say in english "you fucking and-word". So I look at him and say "tal vez, pero tengo mucho plata, tu, tu tienes nada. Que mas? Quieres algo? Tu trabajar para eso". My girl overheard what I said with my limited spanish but she didn't catch what I was responding to since she doesn't speak much english. She grab my hand and start pulling me saying "mucho problemas" so I turn and see 4 cops across the street and she pulls me towards them and we keep walking. These cops looks like they fresh out of high school, mostly women and crazy young, I wouldn't expect them to handle shit if shit goes down and think they are just there to display presence. I let it be, got the Uber and was back to the apartment. I tried to explain to my chica what happened, and she said there is allot of things happening in Centro lately and I need to be careful Centro have gotten worse.
Next rip, I think ill only be stopping in Cartegena to pick up my chica and were going elsewhere.
CowboyCheeba
09-18-23, 05:48
The sex motels are super basic, but they tend to be clean. I've only used them a handful of times though. In Cartagena, it is more likely that the girls from Mileroticos or Skokka, will have an incall in Bocagrande, Bosque, or Marbella. In calls in those areas are perfectly safe. They set up in those areas because tourists are nearby and it's more comfortable for you. I will say that be careful in Bosque after dark as it can get somewhat sketchy (not terribly so). There are some girls who will have them further east, but it's not safe for foreigners to go so don't bother.
There aren't dedicated casas or spas here for sex work. The spas you see are straight up, though the ladies may finish you by hand if it's private enough. Also, they will give you their number to set up something offsite later.Appreciate that, I wasn't sure about incall locations, esp with girls in MDE, but it could have saved me $100 USD after transport plus hotel tacking on guest fees. Just wasn't sure what to expect not on my turf.
Incall in Bocagrande seems reasonable though. I'll make sure things aren't too far. And haven't heard of skokka but will check out, Milerotics has been pretty legit for me so far though.
MongerHunger
09-18-23, 06:25
The sex motels are super basic, but they tend to be clean. I've only used them a handful of times though. In Cartagena, it is more likely that the girls from Mileroticos or Skokka, will have an incall in Bocagrande, Bosque, or Marbella. In calls in those areas are perfectly safe. They set up in those areas because tourists are nearby and it's more comfortable for you. I will say that be careful in Bosque after dark as it can get somewhat sketchy (not terribly so). There are some girls who will have them further east, but it's not safe for foreigners to go so don't bother.
There aren't dedicated casas or spas here for sex work. The spas you see are straight up, though the ladies may finish you by hand if it's private enough. Also, they will give you their number to set up something offsite later.The mattresses in those love motels suck.
Well my flight and airbnb are booked for my first mongering trip since covid arrived while I was FKKing in Frankfurt 2020. Of all the destinations I have chosen Cartagena since henceforth every port of call must have a beach and I've never been to Cartagena in spite of numerous trips to Colombia. I love la playa and its half the reason I would travel from now on. If the mongering is disappointing then I can still enjoy myself.
PerkinWarbeck
09-18-23, 16:29
Hilarious. They love you so much that the whole beach swarms all over why'all and won't leave you alone till I they get your money. It's like pelicans with the fishermen are out They just surround you and harass you.These girls love money and will tell you whatever you want to hear. Please take everything they say with a mound of salt.
PerkinWarbeck
09-18-23, 16:38
Appreciate that, I wasn't sure about incall locations, esp with girls in MDE, but it could have saved me $100 USD after transport plus hotel tacking on guest fees. Just wasn't sure what to expect not on my turf.
Incall in Bocagrande seems reasonable though. I'll make sure things aren't too far. And haven't heard of skokka but will check out, Milerotics has been pretty legit for me so far though.You should absolutely be skeptical of incalls in Medellin because of the lack of affordable hotels in the tourists spots, you'the have to travel decently far out to an incall. Here it's different. Cartagena is a tourist spot for Colombians too, so they have budget hotels down by the beach for families. I went to see a muchacha down there earlier this year, and there was a family leaving out the room next door as I entered. Also, girls stay up by the airport and Marbella too because Colombians will base themselves out of there. Bosque is for some tourists, but mostly Colombian men. The girls in Bosque are traveling a circuit through the north of the country, and those hotels are set up just for this. The rooms tend to be cleaner with good air conditioning and a TV. Also, the pricing will be much better in Bosque (100 -150 k). If you speak Spanish, you can get two rounds out of it too.
Use inDrive to get you there and back. They'll deliver you right to the hotel, you do your business, then order another inDrive in her room, and they meet you at the entrance. Very safe.
Skokka is used more by Colombian men. The prices tend to be better, but these are very regular girls. Not stunners.
The I.
PerkinWarbeck
09-18-23, 16:46
Well my flight and airbnb are booked for my first mongering trip since covid arrived while I was FKKing in Frankfurt 2020. Of all the destinations I have chosen Cartagena since henceforth every port of call must have a beach and I've never been to Cartagena in spite of numerous trips to Colombia. I love la playa and its half the reason I would travel from now on. If the mongering is disappointing then I can still enjoy myself.I'm sorry my friend, but the beaches in Cartagena proper will be a massive disappointment. They are dirty, crowded with tourists, and filled to the brim with vendors. You won't have a good time there just enjoying the beach. If you want that, you will need to go south of Cartagena by boat or car to Baru and spend the nights there, where the beaches are sparsely populated and have no sellers.
The sex trade may disappoint you as well due to the influx of the Venezuelans who tend to be very business like.
I love it in Cartagena, but it's a place for long stays. For short trips, I'the advise you to spend a few days sampling the girls in the clubs or the square downtown. Find one you click with, who isn't trying to suck all your money, and take her for a few nights to a resort in Baru.
Happy hunting.
PerkinWarbeck
09-18-23, 16:48
The mattresses in those love motels suck.Apologies! I got it mixed up. There are some short time hotels like Hotel Mar y Sol, which you can rent by the hour. Those tend to be clean, but they aren't places to sleep. The incalls I was referring to are actual hotels where the girls are staying. The amenities there are actually decent for the price.
Mr Enternational
09-18-23, 17:26
The mattresses in those love motels suck.It is like are we fucking or supposed to be having a wrestling match.
MongerHunger
09-18-23, 21:32
It is like are we fucking or supposed to be having a wrestling match.LOL. On a mat.
I'm sorry my friend, but the beaches in Cartagena proper will be a massive disappointment. They are dirty, crowded with tourists, and filled to the brim with vendors. You won't have a good time there just enjoying the beach. If you want that, you will need to go south of Cartagena by boat or car to Baru and spend the nights there, where the beaches are sparsely populated and have no sellers.
The sex trade may disappoint you as well due to the influx of the Venezuelans who tend to be very business like.
I love it in Cartagena, but it's a place for long stays. For short trips, I'the advise you to spend a few days sampling the girls in the clubs or the square downtown. Find one you click with, who isn't trying to suck all your money, and take her for a few nights to a resort in Baru.
Happy hunting.Being by the sea is in itself more enjoyable for me than being inland and I do look forward to swimming occasionally. I've heard about Cartagena vendors, probably the worst in the world, but, believe me, that would be the least of my problems, travelling around the world for decades has made me quite capable of dealing with them. Nevertheless, your advice is good and appreciated. I'm mainly a casa man and do look forward to hitting some casas also.
If you're looking for entertainment and a lot of good visuals you'll love Playa Hollywood it's a circus. Definitely not relaxing but it's not bad having 30 women swarming all over the beach and watching the gringo gringo posses getting mobbed but then just try to sell them crap or drive them off the beach whichever comes first. It's kind of like with a pelicans do when the fisherman in a net, the gringos are sworn by every massage girl, trinket seller hookers they can call over to sit on their laps. Then you can watch the argument when Tony brings them a bill for three times with actually had it's quite comical and predictable. Just be prepared for some really loud awful music, drunk people from Bogota. And you'll be all set.
Being by the sea is in itself more enjoyable for me than being inland and I do look forward to swimming occasionally. I've heard about Cartagena vendors, probably the worst in the world, but, believe me, that would be the least of my problems, travelling around the world for decades has made me quite capable of dealing with them. Nevertheless, your advice is good and appreciated. I'm mainly a casa man and do look forward to hitting some casas also.
Sorry for the typos it was but I think you get the idea.
You can get anything you want and may pay twice what you should for it. You can watch a midget in the DJ booth, while the girls do their March through sand late in the day. They will be over with the clock tower in the evening if they haven't gotten any action before that. If you're looking for quiet go someplace else.
If you're looking for entertainment and a lot of good visuals you'll love Playa Hollywood it's a circus. Definitely not relaxing but it's not bad having 30 women swarming all over the beach and watching the gringo gringo posses getting mobbed but then just try to sell them crap or drive them off the beach whichever comes first. It's kind of like with a pelicans do when the fisherman in a net, the gringos are sworn by every massage girl, trinket seller hookers they can call over to sit on their laps. Then you can watch the argument when Tony brings them a bill for three times with actually had it's quite comical and predictable. Just be prepared for some really loud awful music, drunk people from Bogota. And you'll be all set.
Sorry for the typos it was but I think you get the idea.
You can get anything you want and may pay twice what you should for it. You can watch a midget in the DJ booth, while the girls do their March through sand late in the day. They will be over with the clock tower in the evening if they haven't gotten any action before that. If you're looking for quiet go someplace else.The midget spinning the tunes, yes they get around jajaja.
You're not going to warn him about the Trans mixed into the available selection around Kiosk #4? LOL.
That quick stop in February and having them walk around in booty shorts and thongs trying to get my attention along with the little kids coming up to the rope as I'm laying under the cabana screaming to get my attention was the final straw to not go to Playa Hollywood on future trips.
As a suggestion for a more relaxed and chilled experience. Check out Beach Club in El Laguito, close to the Pametto Sunset. There's no actual beach but it's way more relaxed.
I have finally touched down for my first visit to Cartagena in a country I've visited so many times before. If you look down from the plane heading to the airport you will see a small sector of high rise buildings amidst a vast area of slum like dwellings. This should prepare every visitor for the experiences they will have in the city. The high rises represent an island of opulence among a sea of poverty. These poor people gravitate to the rich area to hustle whatever benefits they could derive.
Upon settling into my airbnb I changed and headed out to get a lay of the land. Many visitors have reported on how hot Cartagena is. I thought nothing of this as I am accustomed to visiting the Caribbean. However, Cartagena is a different kind of hot; within minutes my clothes were fully drenched in sweat. As I discovered the a / see in the bedroom of my accomodation does not adequately deal with this heat. I had some regret that I did not pay the extra for a top hotel such as the Hilton which definitely would have better temperature control. BTW this being a tourist town it is quite expensive, especially hotels.
More to what you guys are interested in, one is hustled constantly at the beach, neverthelsess I found the hookers not so much in your face as the other hustlers but they are there. I have not partaken yet but haven gotten older and wiser I will be careful not to proposition civilians in pursuit of my hobby, that would be quite uncool. The agreement I signed for the airbnb although in Spanish I was able to detect the essentials no loud parties, no drugs and no prostitutes. With respect to the latter I have no intention of adhering. My rental can accommodate six people and no one is to tell me I cannot have friends over. A party of six could have booked it so there you go. The building is populated by mostly Colombians including women of all types so although a prospective partner would not be wearing a band there would not be any walk of shame.
More to come later.
I have finally touched down for my first visit to Cartagena in a country I've visited so many times before. If you look down from the plane heading to the airport you will see a small sector of high rise buildings amidst a vast area of slum like dwellings. This should prepare every visitor for the experiences they will have in the city. The high rises represent an island of opulence among a sea of poverty. These poor people gravitate to the rich area to hustle whatever benefits they could derive.
Upon settling into my airbnb I changed and headed out to get a lay of the land. Many visitors have reported on how hot Cartagena is. I thought nothing of this as I am accustomed to visiting the Caribbean. However, Cartagena is a different kind of hot; within minutes my clothes were fully drenched in sweat. As I discovered the a / see in the bedroom of my accomodation does not adequately deal with this heat. I had some regret that I did not pay the extra for a top hotel such as the Hilton which definitely would have better temperature control. BTW this being a tourist town it is quite expensive, especially hotels.
More to what you guys are interested in, one is hustled constantly at the beach, neverthelsess I found the hookers not so much in your face as the other hustlers but they are there. I have not partaken yet but haven gotten older and wiser I will be careful not to proposition civilians in pursuit of my hobby, that would be quite uncool. The agreement I signed for the airbnb although in Spanish I was able to detect the essentials no loud parties, no drugs and no prostitutes. With respect to the latter I have no intention of adhering. My rental can accommodate six people and no one is to tell me I cannot have friends over. A party of six could have booked it so there you go. The building is populated by mostly Colombians including women of all types so although a prospective partner would not be wearing a band there would not be any walk of shame.
More to come later.Sometimes, all it takes is firsthand experience LOL.
About the heat. Yes, I've mentioned that before. Freshly showered, and step outside to go to the store I feel like I never toweled off and just put on my clothes. When I'm there I take so much showers that I go through a bar of soap a week, and F the hot water because the cold water is room temp and just fine to cool off. You will get a tan in the shade LOL.
About the AC, normally its a combination of AC and ceiling fans and depending on where you are pray they cleaned the AC coils because if they didn't its just blowing moldy air.
About your AirBB and visitors. Be careful, Cartegena is a bit different. If you are in a building and your AirBB said no visitors, there is security and you have to wear the band I wish you the best of luck getting someone in.
As I first timer I would love for you to head to the clocktower after 10 pm, walk through it and keep going until you walk by Dolce, Space, Delirium or Alqumico Bar and report back as a first timer.
I hope you are not in El Laguito. If you are, take this as a warning. Every late night around 1 in the morning the police will set up a checkpoint by Hotel Caribe. If you are stopped and you have a girl with you, they will extort you or threaten you will jail. It happened to me in February, and on my most recent trip, I was having a conversation with 2 chill brothers who I saw in El Laguito and when I joked about getting extorted by the cops, before I could even tell them where it happened, they said the same shit happened to them twice right when they made the turn by the police station going from Boca Grande to El Laguito. Same exact spot where they got me. LOL.
I can't wait to hear your experience of you first Cartegena visit.
Have fun and stay safe!
I agree with your assessment about AiR BnB properties in CTG. If they say no guests, they usually mean it and have some mechanism to prevent unwanted guests. If you slip by with your new found friend and she causes trouble in the room, you could find yourself on the street forthwith.
As far as cop shakedowns in Laguito I don't know as I never venture outside the old city in the evening but the cops overall are not to be trusted wherever you are. There is an incredible level of corruption within this group. If you get in any difficult with a chica, you can be certain that the cops will take their side and expect some remuneration to make your issue disappear.
I am actually in El Laguito. Any monger who wants to read about torrid sex in Cartagena will have to skip this post as after three days I am still a Cartagena virgin. I spent the entire weekend perched on Hollywood beach. My favorite hangout is at Andina bar sitting at a table on the sand sipping my lager and watching the world go by. I am quite enjoying this. I suppose being very close to 70 I have finally lost that zest for being in a crowded nightclub with loud music rubbing shoulders with inebriated fellow mongers and choosing girls to go arriba.
I am not enamoured with the mongering on Hollywood beach if it happens at all. Yes there are gringos with hookers on the beach but it strikes me that they have picked them up the night before in the old city and invited them to the beach the following day, there is that sort of familiarity; there's also the possibility of hook ups via tinder or such. That being said there are hooker types hanging out by themselves but I have not seen any such that interests me. I did chat up a quite nice looking chica who was by herself but she spoke not a lick of English. She was an obvious non-pro. I am quite Spanish challenged in spite of my many visits to Spanish speaking countries and the conversation via google translate was tedious. She was quite friendly but in the end she refused me her whatsapp, go figure.
Today I saw a possibly late 30's gringo chatting up what I would refer to as the hottest chica I have seen on the beach thus far. She looked about 19/20 and was fine as could be. She looked like lots of work to take to bed but certainly worth it. As I get older that is the type of girl I am really interested in banging. I have been there, done that with the others oh so many times. Nevertheless I do plan on seeing what La Dolce Vita has to offer; I've been reading about that place on ISG for many years now.
At Turgid: you can also try to hop on evening chiva bus tours where you can meet girls from other countries too. Some of them may speak English.
Airbnb: The agreement I signed is with the administrator of the building not the owner of the unit. The building I am in is populated 90% by Colombians and over the weekend it was very crowded and easy to slip in an illegal guest during the day but not so easy at night. During the week is to be seen. In future, however, I will use a hotel as comfort is now very important for me and the apartment I'm in leaves lots of room for improvement. There is no hot water in the apartment but I suppose because the city is so hot the normal water is quite warm and suitable for a shower. At $60 per night the price is not bad but I will willingly pay more than twice that for better accommodation. I do plan on some tours including the party buses at night which look like lots of fun.
I forgot to mention that I made inquiries about casas, my favorite way of meeting providers, and it seems that they are all in the barrios and I have no intention of foraging there. Probably explains why there are no reports of casa hopping in the Cartagena reports.
Airbnb: The agreement I signed is with the administrator of the building not the owner of the unit. The building I am in is populated 90% by Colombians and over the weekend it was very crowded and easy to slip in an illegal guest during the day but not so easy at night. During the week is to be seen. In future, however, I will use a hotel as comfort is now very important for me and the apartment I'm in leaves lots of room for improvement. There is no hot water in the apartment but I suppose because the city is so hot the normal water is quite warm and suitable for a shower. At $60 per night the price is not bad but I will willingly pay more than twice that for better accommodation. I do plan on some tours including the party buses at night which look like lots of fun.There are a few El Laguito buildings I have warned many travelers no to stay in LOL.
El Conquistador. Never stay here. Its overcrowded and run down. Hot water? Good luck. When I rains. Good luck walking across the moat.
Las Tres Carabelas. If dragging luggage up all them steps isn't a turn off, then it will be their guest policy of no guests after a certain time and no overnights guests allowed, followed by the guards ripping people off.
Palmetto Sunset. If the apartment allows visitors, they are only allowed on the property 10 am to 9:30 pm and 12 am to 5 am. Yes, security will knock on your door and tell you they have to leave and if they don't they will ban the visitor from the building. And that older woman working the front desk will talk your business with every visitor telling them the monger had other girls there.
I forgot to mention that I made inquiries about casas, my favorite way of meeting providers, and it seems that they are all in the barrios and I have no intention of foraging there. Probably explains why there are no reports of casa hopping in the Cartagena reports.Yes, the casas are outside the walls and I would not recommended them unless you are comfortable with being in unsafe areas or have a local with you. Also Spanish is a must.
A few weeks ago my chica took me out to Castellana Mall to go shopping (Mall Plaza was too packed and Plaza Caribe didn't have the items). We get there and I told her go grab what she wants while I look around the mall and when she's ready to check out call me and ill come pay for whatever. Hindsight. My dumb ass is walking around taking pictures of the Fountian that not even working, the little go kart rides that's not even on, the little art they have outside and the painted murals, just enjoying myself not being annoyed by others. Then I noticed certain random guys looking at me who were obviously not shopping, so I went in the Exito and one followed, left Exito, same guy followed, went back to the mall and saw a guard (not a cop) and walk up to him and just asked random questions like what time the place closes and opens, then I saw the guy walk off to a stand faking like he was buying something. My girl called while I was talking to the guard, I meet her in the store, told her what happened she jumped on In Driver and got a taxi for us to go back to Centro and just left.
PerkinWarbeck
09-26-23, 17:14
Friends,
Bocagrande and Laguito are for Colombian families, and those families do not want to see or hear Cartagena's sex trade. I'm surprised there are any tourist accommodations that even allow a muchacha to your room. If you need to take a girl somewhere, there is an hourly hotel, Hotel Mar why Sol, that you can take a girl to in Bocagrande.
Either that, or an incall at the girl's place are your best bets.
I have no idea why people still stay down there. There's no night life. The beach sucks. The aren't any good restaurants. No clue.
I only go down there for the occasional outcall if a muchacha catches my eye, or the movie theater in plaza bocagrande that shows new releases in English.
Ever since the pandemic my 100% mongering mode has been switched off. Prior to the pandemic I probably would have stayed in the old city within walking distance of Dolce. I intentionally decided to stay in El Laguito and loving it. I did go to a restaurant where the fish was tainted but I have had no problems at El Muelle (great seafood) and also my airbnb has a kitchenette (I improved my cooking skills during the covid isolation). I have no problems where I am. Yesterday I did visit a Mileroticos girl's place, it was so so but got the job done. I am yet to go to Dolce, perhaps tonight. You guys are actually making me reluctant to bring a chica to my place. I have seen couples enter and depart the building but they are not obvious tricks and pros and I'm certain I can pull that off with an appropriately attired working girl. I'm not promising not to do so if I meet a hot and willing Colombiana on the beach.
PerkinWarbeck
09-26-23, 22:05
Ever since the pandemic my 100% mongering mode has been switched off. Prior to the pandemic I probably would have stayed in the old city within walking distance of Dolce. I intentionally decided to stay in El Laguito and loving it. I did go to a restaurant where the fish was tainted but I have had no problems at El Muelle (great seafood) and also my airbnb has a kitchenette (I improved my cooking skills during the covid isolation). I have no problems where I am. Yesterday I did visit a Mileroticos girl's place, it was so so but got the job done. I am yet to go to Dolce, perhaps tonight. You guys are actually making me reluctant to bring a chica to my place. I have seen couples enter and depart the building but they are not obvious tricks and pros and I'm certain I can pull that off with an appropriately attired working girl. I'm not promising not to do so if I meet a hot and willing Colombiana on the beach.The best seafood is downtown. Well all the best restaurants are downtown.
Dolce, and the clubs, can be complete meat markets, but the first few times, it's super fun to dance with some hot young girls vying for you to take them home.
Definitely do not bring a muchacha back to your place without asking the front desk first and properly vetting the girl. The working girls can be very dangerous, especially if you are inebriated. Take her to a short time motel first and give her a test run. If she behaves and pleases you, do it again. If she behaves twice, wife her up for the trip. That's always fun.
BartSimpson5
09-27-23, 07:45
Hi everyone, I RTTFed and I have noted few names of the clubs recommended in Cartagena, but I wanted to ask which clubs in Cartagena are really high-end clubs with best girls? I mean something like La Isla and Fase II in Medellin or Termas Monte Carlo or 4 x4 in Rio. I mean really clubs with best girls.
Walking from Megatienda supermarket with groceries in hand last night around 7. 00 pm on Carrera 2 just around when I hit Avenida Almirante Briceno I saw some hot cute spinners crossing the road towards my side, looked at the cutest and said 'hola' she responded Ocho.... Pussy. This took me by surprise. I know she did not mean ocho mille. Damn, your offer is ocho cien mille (800 mille) (US $200). You're cute, but not going arriba, that will require some thinking on my part before even beginning to negotiate with you. A little lower down a tall morena smiles at me I say hola and she responds. However, I was way too tired to do anything after spending the day at Playa Blanca. Isn't that how it is? When you are not ready is when you see the really good ones. They looked much better than the chicas I see on youtube in the old city. Anyway, I do hope I see that morena again, I prefer tall fit girls to spinners. The mongering in El Laguito ainīt that bad.
The best seafood is downtown. Well all the best restaurants are downtown.
Dolce, and the clubs, can be complete meat markets, but the first few times, it's super fun to dance with some hot young girls vying for you to take them home.
Definitely do not bring a muchacha back to your place without asking the front desk first and properly vetting the girl. The working girls can be very dangerous, especially if you are inebriated. Take her to a short time motel first and give her a test run. If she behaves and pleases you, do it again. If she behaves twice, wife her up for the trip. That's always fun.If she is a keeper, do her again for the discount, however, there is a lot of fine, hard body, Venezuelan spinners to chose from. I am blond with blue eyes, no problem getting the top tier ladies.
Friends,
Bocagrande and Laguito are for Colombian families, and those families do not want to see or hear Cartagena's sex trade. I'm surprised there are any tourist accommodations that even allow a muchacha to your room. If you need to take a girl somewhere, there is an hourly hotel, Hotel Mar why Sol, that you can take a girl to in Bocagrande.
Either that, or an incall at the girl's place are your best bets.
I have no idea why people still stay down there. There's no night life. The beach sucks. The aren't any good restaurants. No clue.
I only go down there for the occasional outcall if a muchacha catches my eye, or the movie theater in plaza bocagrande that shows new releases in English.Walled City is party central, just make sure your place is chica friendly.
Elvis 2008
09-27-23, 17:53
Friends,
Bocagrande and Laguito are for Colombian families, and those families do not want to see or hear Cartagena's sex trade. I'm surprised there are any tourist accommodations that even allow a muchacha to your room. If you need to take a girl somewhere, there is an hourly hotel, Hotel Mar why Sol, that you can take a girl to in Bocagrande.There are street walkers around the Bocagrande Mall, and most of the better hotels are technically in Bocagrande. Sure, centro / the Walled city is known to be best for mongering. It is just when you are in centro or the Walled City in general, if you are claustrophobic, it can be daunting. I am not like that, but I prefer my space.
The best seafood is downtown. Well all the best restaurants are downtown.Again, you are right if you are looking for the button down, table cloth type meal, most are downtown. Still, the best fancy restaurant I have been to though is in Manga, https://www.restaurantefuertedelpastelillo.com/.
Stunning views and sunset and the food IMO is the best in the city.
For Italian, De Silvio gets the press, but I actually liked Semolina in the Bocagrande Mall more.
Outside of fuertedelpastelillo IMO there is one more must go place, and that is the food court at Serrezuela mall. Andres is in that mall which is great in and of itself, but the real gem is the food court. My favorite is the Carne de Res at El Bistro but I also think they have the best sushi, ceviche, and mojitos in town there as well. Go with a group of people and you will find something for everyone. Everything I have had in that food court is fabulous, and it is spacious and informal unlike downtown.
Mr Enternational
09-27-23, 19:47
I am blond with blue eyes, no problem getting the top tier ladies.Good. So you are able to get them for free.
Walking from Megatienda supermarket with groceries in hand last night around 7. 00 pm on Carrera 2 just around when I hit Avenida Almirante Briceno I saw some hot cute spinners crossing the road towards my side, looked at the cutest and said 'hola' she responded Ocho.... Pussy. This took me by surprise. I know she did not mean ocho mille. Damn, your offer is ocho cien mille (800 mille) (US $200). You're cute, but not going arriba, that will require some thinking on my part before even beginning to negotiate with you. A little lower down a tall morena smiles at me I say hola and she responds. However, I was way too tired to do anything after spending the day at Playa Blanca. Isn't that how it is? When you are not ready is when you see the really good ones. They looked much better than the chicas I see on youtube in the old city. Anyway, I do hope I see that morena again, I prefer tall fit girls to spinners. The mongering in El Laguito aint that bad.The mongering in El Laguito is very bad! I would avoid.
All those girls do is go from hotel to hotel servicing gringos back to back especially the ones who hang outside Pametto Sunset or always walking by Hotel Dan and all the ones on Carrera 2. You would be lucky if they washed up between sessions.
Avoid, avoid, avoid.
If she is a keeper, do her again for the discount, however, there is a lot of fine, hard body, Venezuelan spinners to chose from. I am blond with blue eyes, no problem getting the top tier ladies.I fail to see the correlation with you having blonde hair blue eyes getting what you may consider "top tier". Are you implying that your blonde hair and blue eyes grants you the box for free or at bargain prices?
I see old guys with top tier.
I see crazy overweight guys with buggers in their eyes with top tier.
Everyone pays in some form or another. Either directly, indirectly, giving gifts, etc. The only difference is the amount being paid.
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