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Prezrol3080
09-27-23, 23:39
Can anyone personally vouch for Oz Luxury Hotel letting girls in? I have been a regular to Cartagena for a couple years and have always stayed in a Airbnb in Laguito, but I would like to get a bit more luxury for my money next time. I'm also a bit concerned about the new police checkpoint set up by the Hotel Caribe on the way into Laguito. I have read in other posts about Oz Luxury Hotel and others like it, but I just can't imagine a nice hotel letting me sign in as many girls as I want (1-3 per day).
PerkinWarbeck
09-28-23, 00:30
If she is a keeper, do her again for the discount, however, there is a lot of fine, hard body, Venezuelan spinners to chose from. I am blond with blue eyes, no problem getting the top tier ladies.These ladies are too hit or miss to waste your money, and just trying out new providers gets boring in Cartagena, QUICK. It's a way better experience to find one who actually performs and just get GFE with her for a week. Risk adjusted, it's actually cheaper. The problem is finding GFE is very very difficult if you aren't in Cartagena a lot. A good chunk of these ladies are hardened pros who will give you mechanical service and run. No kisses. No affection. Just dry sex, and that is not enticing.
Can anyone personally vouch for Oz Luxury Hotel letting girls in? I have been a regular to Cartagena for a couple years and have always stayed in a Airbnb in Laguito, but I would like to get a bit more luxury for my money next time. I'm also a bit concerned about the new police checkpoint set up by the Hotel Caribe on the way into Laguito. I have read in other posts about Oz Luxury Hotel and others like it, but I just can't imagine a nice hotel letting me sign in as many girls as I want (1-3 per day).The checkpoint in El Laguito is nothing to worry about unless the monger is the type that like to stay in Centro until the clubs close. If the monger takes his ass back to El Laguito before 1 am then he does not have to worry about the checkpoint.
PerkinWarbeck
09-28-23, 00:46
There are street walkers around the Bocagrande Mall, and most of the better hotels are technically in Bocagrande. Sure, centro / the Walled city is known to be best for mongering. It is just when you are in centro or the Walled City in general, if you are claustrophobic, it can be daunting. I am not like that, but I prefer my space.You're right. I was there for a birthday party in Laguito and walked back to Boca to find a taxi. I got accosted once. I wasn't talking about mongering though. I was talking purely about accommodations. Even in Centro, you'the be hard pressed to find one with a reasonable doorman.
Again, you are right if you are looking for the button down, table cloth type meal, most are downtown. Still, the best fancy restaurant I have been to though is in Manga, https://www.restaurantefuertedelpastelillo.com/.
Stunning views and sunset and the food IMO is the best in the city.
For Italian, De Silvio gets the press, but I actually liked Semolina in the Bocagrande Mall more.
Outside of fuertedelpastelillo IMO there is one more must go place, and that is the food court at Serrezuela mall. Andres is in that mall which is great in and of itself, but the real gem is the food court. My favorite is the Carne de Res at El Bistro but I also think they have the best sushi, ceviche, and mojitos in town there as well. Go with a group of people and you will find something for everyone. Everything I have had in that food court is fabulous, and it is spacious and informal unlike downtown.I know the restaurant you posted. It's maybe two streets over from my apartment in Manga. It is a complete ripoff. 120 k for cazuela mariscos? Insane. You're paying for views of Bahia Manga. Nothing more.
For actual upscale eating.
Niku for Japanese.
Peru Fusion for Japanese / Peruvian fusion food.
Quebracho is an Argentinian steakhouse.
La Girolata (authentic Italian). The head chef there is Italian himself. He talks to patrons.
Those are always really good, but expensive by Colombian standards.
For casual dining.
Origines (my favorite in the city).
Piccolo (pizza).
Pollo Tropical (chicken).
Crepes and Waffles- Colombians are nuts for this chain. Any girl you meet will be ecstatic to go here.
For fast food.
Colombitalia Arepas in Getsemani.
For actual upscale eating.
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Quebracho is an Argentinian steakhouse.I'll cosign Quebracho Parrilla, I actually like it better than Andres.
What I like about this place is the steaks are juicy and its location is away from all the nonsense, nobody's over here bothering you at all and its a nice walk by to see all the tiles of Mrs. Universe.
Whenever I take my chica there, on average I spend $100 and that's for 2 steaks, and 4 drinks. Nice live band just don't let them seat you next to the grill.
I go there at least once every trip. On this last trip I got lost looking for it because they boarded up Plaza de Bolivar and I kept looking for the park LOL.
Another decent restaurant can recommend to everyone is Restaurante Mar De Las Antillas in Getsemeni, not the one in Centro.
Rocketeer666
09-28-23, 19:54
The mongering in El Laguito is very bad! I would avoid.
All those girls do is go from hotel to hotel servicing gringos back to back especially the ones who hang outside Pametto Sunset or always walking by Hotel Dan and all the ones on Carrera 2. You would be lucky if they washed up between sessions.
Avoid, avoid, avoid.When would you go in cartagena and what are the usual prices?
Thanks.
The mongering in El Laguito is very bad! I would avoid.
All those girls do is go from hotel to hotel servicing gringos back to back especially the ones who hang outside Pametto Sunset or always walking by Hotel Dan and all the ones on Carrera 2. You would be lucky if they washed up between sessions.
Avoid, avoid, avoid.I take it you're talking from experience but I would think the washing up is an individual / personal thing and not related generally to girls servicing guys in El Laguito. What does it take for them to wash up at a john's place after servicing him? Actually those I've been seeing on Carrera 2 don't look bad at all. Its the price that makes me avoid, I think they are more expensive in that area than what they would charge in the old city.
I fail to see the correlation with you having blonde hair blue eyes getting what you may consider "top tier". Are you implying that your blonde hair and blue eyes grants you the box for free or at bargain prices?
I see old guys with top tier.
I see crazy overweight guys with buggers in their eyes with top tier.
Everyone pays in some form or another. Either directly, indirectly, giving gifts, etc. The only difference is the amount being paid.In a way he's right though. A tall, good-looking blonde / blue guy might get laid even without paying. It's just human nature: we are attracted to opposites.
Do the fat / ugly guys get the same chicks? Hell yes, but they have to pay for it a ton more than Mr. Handsome.
When would you go in cartagena and what are the usual prices?
Thanks.Complex 2 part question complex 2 part answer.
I go to Cartegena when I can have the most peace. So that means I avoid every American holiday that allows certain people to have 3-day or 4-day weekends. So that knocks out Presidents Day, Labor Day, 4th of July, Thanksgiving, etc. I also avoid when there are major theme holidays or sports events like Halloween, Superbowl, Fathers Day, Christmas, New Years, etc. Once I rule that out then comes the price of the straight flight, usually its $200 to go and about $500 to come back. Sure, I can get a straight flight for $150 to go, and $200 to come back but it comes into who pays for those tickets and do I want to be around them on my vacation. Then you have to factor in the season, After August its rainy season so that sucks, Middle of summer is too damn hot so that sucks too.
As for the prices of the girls.
The price I pay is not really relevant because my price is pre pandemic or grandfathered in as I've known these girls a little over 5 years.
The easiest way for me to explain it is if the monger is a new face girls will overcharge. They used to throw out 600 K or 800 K but now they are throwing out $100, $200, or $300.
Girls get cheaper as time get later in the night, but who wants to take a girl at 2 am for 200 K knowing that she been out there since 9 pm and could of had 1 gringo per hour since she got to Centro.
If the girl like the gringo she will charge less.
I may pay one price but someone out there is paying less than me and someone is paying more, I just don't care anymore.
I wouldn't worry too much about the price due to everyone pays in some form or another, directly or indirectly, just know when they are trying to rip you off and adjust accordingly to what works with your budget.
If I use myself as an example. The most ill pay for daytime is 200 K 1 pop, the most ill pay for overnight is 500 K, they have to show up before 10 pm and I get 2 pops before they leave, I don't care when they leave so most hang around all day. But to provide full context, these are girls I've knows for years, not girls I just met when the plane landed.
I take it you're talking from experience but I would think the washing up is an individual / personal thing and not related generally to girls servicing guys in El Laguito. What does it take for them to wash up at a john's place after servicing him? Actually those I've been seeing on Carrera 2 don't look bad at all. Its the price that makes me avoid, I think they are more expensive in that area than what they would charge in the old city.That if the monger lets them shower to freshen up.
Some mongers be on some BS kicking girls out as soon and they bust their nut scared the girl going to try do something.
Some of these girls who are just focused on money just want to get in and out as fast as possible so they with just pull out some wet wipes, wipe their ass and pussy, spray some perfume then back to the street.
I've had times with chicas, we in the middle of it, their phone starts blowing up because some gringo is telling them to come through. Now she starts to try rush me to finish, 2 minutes in the bathroom to wipe up and run to him to get more money. This is one of the main reasons why I don't take new girls at night for a 1 pop session, because she gave many gringos her number that same night and as the night goes on they start texting to see what girls are available.
JohnnieCash
09-29-23, 03:10
we are attracted to opposites.So you're saying that fit young local morenas are naturally attracted to fat old blond bright eyed gringos?
Elvis 2008
09-29-23, 08:13
I know the restaurant you posted. It's maybe two streets over from my apartment in Manga. It is a complete ripoff. 120 k for cazuela mariscos? Insane. You're paying for views of Bahia Manga. Nothing more.I haven't had that. I had the steak, lobster, and risotto. I am usually paying for three or four when I go out so I do not keep too close of a tab on prices. The steak there was the best I have had in the city.
For actual upscale eating.
Niku for Japanese.
Peru Fusion for Japanese / Peruvian fusion food.
Quebracho is an Argentinian steakhouse.
La Girolata (authentic Italian). The head chef there is Italian himself. He talks to patrons.
Those are always really good, but expensive by Colombian standards.
For casual dining.
Origines (my favorite in the city).
Piccolo (pizza).
Pollo Tropical (chicken).
Crepes and Waffles- Colombians are nuts for this chain. Any girl you meet will be ecstatic to go here.
For fast food.
Colombitalia Arepas in Getsemani.I have had a few of the above. Thanks for the list.
Hi everyone, I RTTFed and I have noted few names of the clubs recommended in Cartagena, but I wanted to ask which clubs in Cartagena are really high-end clubs with best girls? I mean something like La Isla and Fase II in Medellin or Termas Monte Carlo or 4 x4 in Rio. I mean really clubs with best girls.I had responded with examples of why your question is vague and will get vague answers because no one know what type of girls your looking for.
Either it got lost along the way or they didn't approve it to be posted.
So to sum it up in 1 sentence.
Do not go to Cartagena looking for a Medellin or Rio experience, you will only set yourself up for disappointment.
PerkinWarbeck
09-29-23, 14:37
In a way he's right though. A tall, good-looking blonde / blue guy might get laid even without paying. It's just human nature: we are attracted to opposites.
Do the fat / ugly guys get the same chicks? Hell yes, but they have to pay for it a ton more than Mr. Handsome.He's not getting a dedicated pro for free. Almost every one of these girls has an actual boyfriend they want to have sex with, who is basically pimping them out to foreigners. If the good looking blonde guy actually went for non-working girls, he'the do better.
Michael1967
09-30-23, 00:50
Complex 2 part question complex 2 part answer.
I go to Cartegena when I can have the most peace. So that means I avoid every American holiday that allows certain people to have 3-day or 4-day weekends. So that knocks out Presidents Day, Labor Day, 4th of July, Thanksgiving, etc. I also avoid when there are major theme holidays or sports events like Halloween, Superbowl, Fathers Day, Christmas, New Years, etc. Once I rule that out then comes the price of the straight flight, usually its $200 to go and about $500 to come back. Sure, I can get a straight flight for $150 to go, and $200 to come back but it comes into who pays for those tickets and do I want to be around them on my vacation. Then you have to factor in the season, After August its rainy season so that sucks, Middle of summer is too damn hot so that sucks too.
As for the prices of the girls.
The price I pay is not really relevant because my price is pre pandemic or grandfathered in as I've known these girls a little over 5 years.
The easiest way for me to explain it is if the monger is a new face girls will overcharge. They used to throw out 600 K or 800 K but now they are throwing out $100, $200, or $300.
Girls get cheaper as time get later in the night, but who wants to take a girl at 2 am for 200 K knowing that she been out there since 9 pm and could of had 1 gringo per hour since she got to Centro.
If the girl like the gringo she will charge less.
I may pay one price but someone out there is paying less than me and someone is paying more, I just don't care anymore.
I wouldn't worry too much about the price due to everyone pays in some form or another, directly or indirectly, just know when they are trying to rip you off and adjust accordingly to what works with your budget.
If I use myself as an example. The most ill pay for daytime is 200 K 1 pop, the most ill pay for overnight is 500 K, they have to show up before 10 pm and I get 2 pops before they leave, I don't care when they leave so most hang around all day. But to provide full context, these are girls I've knows for years, not girls I just met when the plane landed.I was just there and have never been there before. I paid on average 250 K. Girls I met at clock tower were 300 K, girls I met anywhere else were 150-225 K. In the end, none of that mattered, because where I live it's $400 (US) for an ugly person and $500 for someone that is semi-decent looking. Shit, $80 is a steal, none of the girls were decent fucks. If they were halfway decent in bed, I would have definitely paid more.
Elvis 2008
09-30-23, 05:58
I fail to see the correlation with you having blonde hair blue eyes getting what you may consider "top tier". Are you implying that your blonde hair and blue eyes grants you the box for free or at bargain prices?
I see old guys with top tier.
I see crazy overweight guys with buggers in their eyes with top tier.
Everyone pays in some form or another. Either directly, indirectly, giving gifts, etc. The only difference is the amount being paid.Thing about Colombia is that 84% of children are born out of wedlock and only 25% of guys pay for child support, so the Colombian guy can get away with being a real asshole if he wants to. I was at a K-pop concert in Colombia and saw the usual teens swooning over looks. At some point though, the Colombian woman hits the reality wall and culturally the women are told to go after high status guys which includes foreigners and guys with wealth. If the parents want grandchildren, and they are not wealthy themselves, they push their women towards men with money.
That civil legal system that exists in the USA and Europe which for the most part exists to take money from men and give it to women does not exist in Colombia. You have to find someone willing and kind enough to spend that money on you.
Point is that looks may matter in the 18 to 25 range but once women hit 25 in Colombia, I don't think looks matter at all. In fact, I have never heard my gal or her friends even mention it once.
The funny thing happened was a friend of mine who is 64 and average looking but successful came to Colombia with me. A stunning 31 year old friend of my gals actually came onto him and my friend could not believe it. The woman spoke three languages, had a university degree, and had an incredibly sexy voice. He was married and did not pursue it, but I was shocked. He said he did not expect it and neither did I but apparently that is the kid of men the women over 25 seem to go for.
I was just there and have never been there before. I paid on average 250 K. Girls I met at clock tower were 300 K, girls I met anywhere else were 150-225 K. In the end, none of that mattered, because where I live it's $400 (US) for an ugly person and $500 for someone that is semi-decent looking. Shit, $80 is a steal, none of the girls were decent fucks. If they were halfway decent in bed, I would have definitely paid more.I personally wouldn't pay more because they are better in bed, If they are good in bed, I approach it as "welcome to the circle" and let them know ill see them again before I leave, which I do. The good ones I see 3 times minimum per trip, either day time or overnight.
Repeat business is their reward.
And yea that $400 is crazy cause I be seeing them listcrawler for that price and its terrible offerings. One thing about this whole migrant crisis in NYC is I can head down to Rosevelt Ave in Queens and get some good Venezuelan cheeks for under $100. They cleared out all the Asians that were down there trying to sell cheeks. The bad side is that they have dumb asses outside recording whose going in and out and use it to try publicly shame men.
Voodoo Jones
10-01-23, 16:43
Quick thoughts on Cartagena:
It's hot as hell here. I'm used to hot summers, but even in the nights, you're sweating your balls off. Made being outside less enjoyable.
The main areas you want to visit are small and you can see pretty much everything you want in under a week. Less choice of women and prices are much higher than larger cities.
Regardless, I had a good time. Spent the first 3 days with my regular from Bogota and the next 3 days hanging with her local friend who showed me around. I probably won't be back, as this is my 6th overall trip to Colombia and I'm ready to see other countries. When I do return, it'll be Medellin to see my 3 regulars there and fly out my regular from Bogota for a weekend.
PerkinWarbeck
10-01-23, 19:10
Quick thoughts on Cartagena:
It's hot as hell here. I'm used to hot summers, but even in the nights, you're sweating your balls off. Made being outside less enjoyable.
The main areas you want to visit are small and you can see pretty much everything you want in under a week. Less choice of women and prices are much higher than larger cities.
Regardless, I had a good time. Spent the first 3 days with my regular from Bogota and the next 3 days hanging with her local friend who showed me around. I probably won't be back, as this is my 6th overall trip to Colombia and I'm ready to see other countries. When I do return, it'll be Medellin to see my 3 regulars there and fly out my regular from Bogota for a weekend.This poster is essentially the typical Cartagena experience.
- living there for long stretches accustoms you to the heat pretty quickly. Of course, don't go out and about in the middle of the day, but early mornings and early evenings, it is quite nice to do stuff.
- everything you could possibly want to do tourist wise can be done in less than a week.
- if you don't speak Spanish, the choice of girls is quite limited to downtown and maybe Tinder. Prices are high because it's a huge tourist spot. For other South Americans and. Now for Americans to come. The girls are up charging. Barranquilla is close by with much better numbers.
Mr Enternational
10-01-23, 22:29
Shit, $80 is a steal, none of the girls were decent fucks. If they were halfway decent in bed, I would have definitely paid more.But you have already arranged the price BEFORE you fucked them.
I enjoyed my ten days in Cartagena. This is one of the hottest cities I ever visited, temperature wise. The coolest time of my whole stay was exactly when I was leaving, Monday afternoon, when there was a downpour.
Although I visited the walled city and Centro none of my 'activities' was done there.
I liked the vibe at Hollywood beach and spent most of my time there. My modus operandi was to park myself under a shade near the bar that has the huge 'Andina' ad on the roof and sipping a beer. There are a good many available ladies on the beach, pros, semi-pros and non-pros. All are available for the the gent that suits their fancies. For an elderly gentleman on a short stay pros are your best bet. But beware, many of the pros are scammers which I discovered from just talking to them. Having had over fifty years in this hobby I have acquired a sixth sense to detect scammers or bad providers. It works well in Colombia as they are easy to uncover. In destinations such as Germany FKKs scammers are more difficult to detect.
So I would sit on the beach and make eye contact with possibilities. Almost from the start I could decide whether good service would be available or not and in the majority of cases I could sense that I should avoid. After a suitable choice is made we exchange zaps and an appointment is made.
Nuevo Conquistador. This was my unfortunate choice for accomodation in Cartagena. Never again. Hot, crowded and noisy. Advice to you gents, if you can afford better pay the US $100 or more per night for good accomodation and don't be like me, I could have afforded better but thought living among average Colombians would be interesting. It was but not in a good way. This was one of the cons of my Cartagena visit. However, mongering wise it was not too bad as I was able to circumvent restrictions if any.
I quickly recognized that bringing girls to my apartment during the day would not be difficult. The place is very crowded and was extremely difficult to take the lift during the day; around that area was like a zoo and there were constant people streaming in and out of the lobby during the day especially weekends. I never ventured to bring a girl in during the night after say 9. 00 pm. My guess is that I would have been stopped by security then. So I would ask a chica to meet me outside the building at an appointed time and would monitor the situation and enter at the best time. However, again guys I am not suggesting that you do what I did, get a good Airbnb, I wish I did, at my age comfort makes a big difference.
The absolute best time at Hollywood beach is the weekend, especially Sunday afternoons. There were so many possibilities last Sunday that I regret having to leave the following day.
All that being said Cartagena is for the young monger, I would say less than 40. Not that the mature adventurer should not go but there are better venues for us. Also, even for the elderly gentleman, there is much more benefit to be derived from a long stay of a few weeks, one can acquire numbers and make out with hot chicas. There are really top beauties to be found here but unfortunately are not available for the elderly monger on a short stay. There is so much more that I can say about this city but that's it for now.
Nice review but I have to note that many (if not most) AIR BnB restrict guest entry in Cartagena and stipulate this on the description of the property under rules. Review carefully before you commit and reserve your space. Also, Cartagena has changed significantly through the years as it pertains to mongering. A lot of scammers, thieves, and desperate Vennies who won't hesitate to take advantage of you if you are drunk or drug you so you never wake up. The police are corrupt and will not help you either as they get their cut from the girls.
I enjoyed my ten days in Cartagena. This is one of the hottest cities I ever visited, temperature wise. The coolest time of my whole stay was exactly when I was leaving, Monday afternoon, when there was a downpour.
Although I visited the walled city and Centro none of my 'activities' was done there.
I liked the vibe at Hollywood beach and spent most of my time there. My modus operandi was to park myself under a shade near the bar that has the huge 'Andina' ad on the roof and sipping a beer. There are a good many available ladies on the beach, pros, semi-pros and non-pros. All are available for the the gent that suits their fancies. For an elderly gentleman on a short stay pros are your best bet. But beware, many of the pros are scammers which I discovered from just talking to them. Having had over fifty years in this hobby I have acquired a sixth sense to detect scammers or bad providers. It works well in Colombia as they are easy to uncover. In destinations such as Germany FKKs scammers are more difficult to detect.
So I would sit on the beach and make eye contact with possibilities. Almost from the start I could decide whether good service would be available or not and in the majority of cases I could sense that I should avoid. After a suitable choice is made we exchange zaps and an appointment is made.
Nuevo Conquistador. This was my unfortunate choice for accomodation in Cartagena. Never again. Hot, crowded and noisy. Advice to you gents, if you can afford better pay the US $100 or more per night for good accomodation and don't be like me, I could have afforded better but thought living among average Colombians would be interesting. It was but not in a good way. This was one of the cons of my Cartagena visit. However, mongering wise it was not too bad as I was able to circumvent restrictions if any.
I quickly recognized that bringing girls to my apartment during the day would not be difficult. The place is very crowded and was extremely difficult to take the lift during the day; around that area was like a zoo and there were constant people streaming in and out of the lobby during the day especially weekends. I never ventured to bring a girl in during the night after say 9. 00 pm. My guess is that I would have been stopped by security then. So I would ask a chica to meet me outside the building at an appointed time and would monitor the situation and enter at the best time. However, again guys I am not suggesting that you do what I did, get a good Airbnb, I wish I did, at my age comfort makes a big difference.
The absolute best time at Hollywood beach is the weekend, especially Sunday afternoons. There were so many possibilities last Sunday that I regret having to leave the following day.
All that being said Cartagena is for the young monger, I would say less than 40. Not that the mature adventurer should not go but there are better venues for us. Also, even for the elderly gentleman, there is much more benefit to be derived from a long stay of a few weeks, one can acquire numbers and make out with hot chicas. There are really top beauties to be found here but unfortunately are not available for the elderly monger on a short stay. There is so much more that I can say about this city but that's it for now.
Planning my first time here for at most 14 days in Cartagena for a solo trip and wanted to know if this is the best place to find 10's and "best looking" girls or even the "best at sex". Or would anyone say my time would be better spent split between here and Medelland or another recommendation. And what would be the min peso amount a 10 would realistically take?
I'm on the short side out as a minority gringo under 5'9, if anyone has experience compared to the taller gringos when picking up girls like being rejected.
PerkinWarbeck
10-04-23, 13:35
Planning my first time here for at most 14 days in Cartagena for a solo trip and wanted to know if this is the best place to find 10's and "best looking" girls or even the "best at sex". Or would anyone say my time would be better spent split between here and Medelland or another recommendation. And what would be the min peso amount a 10 would realistically take?
I'm on the short side out as a minority gringo under 5'9, if anyone has experience compared to the taller gringos when picking up girls like being rejected.This varies so much. You shouldn't be so schematic.
1. Best looking girls is entirely subjective. What is a 10 to me will probably not be a 10 to you.
2. Best at sex will vary among the posters here. It depends entirely on what you want, the girl, and how she's feeling.
3. Cartagena is a much safer place for a sex vacation than Medellin, in my opinion, but it depends.
4. Cost depends on you. Do you speak Spanish? What girls are you looking for? If you want to taste a new muchacha each day, it will be more expensive than wiring up.
Your height doesn't matter. The working girls are not turning down a man based on height, and you are above average.
Planning my first time here for at most 14 days in Cartagena for a solo trip and wanted to know if this is the best place to find 10's and "best looking" girls or even the "best at sex". Or would anyone say my time would be better spent split between here and Medelland or another recommendation. And what would be the min peso amount a 10 would realistically take?
I'm on the short side out as a minority gringo under 5'9, if anyone has experience compared to the taller gringos when picking up girls like being rejected.I honestly wish mongers would stop with this number rating because it's all personal preference. Nobody knows what a 10 is to you. Nobody knows if you like them fat, skinny, tall, short, light, dark, clean skin or tattooed up. Nobody knows, so instead of throwing out numbers just describe what you're looking for and more people can help you find it.
Best at sex is solely on what you like, again, personal preference. No one knows what you do behind closed doors and and it would be funny if someone sends you to where the Trans are as that was their "best at sex" but it was not what you are looking for.
Girls don't care about your height there the same why they don't care about your weight. All they care about is how full your pockets are and how much can you give them in as little time as possible.
Be specific, the more information you provide on what you are looking for the more accurate responses will be.
Planning my first time here for at most 14 days in Cartagena for a solo trip and wanted to know if this is the best place to find 10's and "best looking" girls or even the "best at sex". Or would anyone say my time would be better spent split between here and Medelland or another recommendation. And what would be the min peso amount a 10 would realistically take?
I'm on the short side out as a minority gringo under 5'9, if anyone has experience compared to the taller gringos when picking up girls like being rejected.My advice for "best" looking girls is good to playa Hollywood during the daytime typically best results are around 4 PM till they close. For nighttime time you have El Centro and the three major Dolce Vita, Space and Delirium. Make sure your hotel or Airbnb is chica friendly and allows you to bring guests. In regards to looks and height that has literally never been an issue to me and I'm 5'6 but I always recommend taking pride in your appearance no matter what. If a chica "rejects" you just keep it moving, there are literally hundreds of others down there.
I honestly wish mongers would stop with this number rating because it's all personal preference. Nobody knows what a 10 is to you. Nobody knows if you like them fat, skinny, tall, short, light, dark, clean skin or tattooed up. Nobody knows, so instead of throwing out numbers just describe what you're looking for and more people can help you find it.
Best at sex is solely on what you like, again, personal preference. No one knows what you do behind closed doors and and it would be funny if someone sends you to where the Trans are as that was their "best at sex" but it was not what you are looking for.
Girls don't care about your height there the same why they don't care about your weight. All they care about is how full your pockets are and how much can you give them in as little time as possible.
Be specific, the more information you provide on what you are looking for the more accurate responses will be.I agree about the ratings being subjective and I had assumed there was a universally agreed definition of 10's and 9's similar to how guys rates their women. This might be vague too but looking for submissive women who would be full on GFE who would try to repeat every day or a few of those who could pass as fit and toned supermodel and Instagram looking girls you'd see touring the US in an agency. Would love to see lighter skin "mixed" brown skin tones.
The other thing I've read to avoid Venezuelan girls. Are we just asking upfront if they're from that country or you can tell based on how they look or sound?
And lastly, I'm not going to go spending USDs or crazy high pesos, but curious if anyone has any experience or heard stories of colombian (or other latin country) girls who went from the most stubbornest minimal service to literally do whatever you want because you offered waaay more (which is still cheap in the US)? Example: Most STG girls and definitely not the tryst pros will simply give you the PSE experience even if you flash bills.
I'm going to leave this video here from a man who was deported from the US back to Colombia who seems to be an "expert", and it was videos like this which influenced how I should think when I visit for better or worse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51zkOVrEcTk.
I agree about the ratings being subjective and I had assumed there was a universally agreed definition of 10's and 9's similar to how guys rates their women. This might be vague too but looking for submissive women who would be full on GFE who would try to repeat every day or a few of those who could pass as fit and toned supermodel and Instagram looking girls you'd see touring the US in an agency. Would love to see lighter skin "mixed" brown skin tones.
The other thing I've read to avoid Venezuelan girls. Are we just asking upfront if they're from that country or you can tell based on how they look or sound?
And lastly, I'm not going to go spending USDs or crazy high pesos, but curious if anyone has any experience or heard stories of colombian (or other latin country) girls who went from the most stubbornest minimal service to literally do whatever you want because you offered waaay more (which is still cheap in the US)? Example: Most STG girls and definitely not the tryst pros will simply give you the PSE experience even if you flash bills.
I'm going to leave this video here from a man who was deported from the US back to Colombia who seems to be an "expert", and it was videos like this which influenced how I should think when I visit for better or worse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51zkOVrEcTk.If the woman you posted in that photo is a 10 to you, then go to Dolce. That's where you will find the majority of the light skin, fake tits, Botox faces, fake asses, liposuction stomachs, certified plastic. But that's where you will also spend the most because someone have to pay for her next surgery, lip filling or ultrasound massage. Also be prepared to overspend or wait to get leftovers after one or 2 guys already been in there for the night.
The Venezuelan are more giving than the Colombians and I personally have way better experiences with them as they are not entitled as the Colombians girls. Same as my DR experiences, where the Haitians and Venezuelans were more fun and gave better experiences than the Dominicans, but to each their own I guess. I personally can't tell the difference if they are Venezuelan, I have to ask and see their Permiso, and I did catch 1 stealing from but I'm not going to shit on all of them because of a single person's action. I just learned from that mistake that if they are too willing, avoid them.
As for the video, I could not get past the first 30 seconds of only listening. As soon as I heard "you know what I'm saying" and "and bombs" (I know the site is going to edit this and mess up what I wrote but everyone know what word I'm talking about) I knew this had to be some hood guy and then I actually looked at video and saw how he looked.
All I'm going to say is that this is your first trip to CTG and if you go there with that person's mentality then make sure you have their look, mannerism's, energy, and connections. Don't be that 9-5 cubicle worker trying tactics of someone who look like the spent the majority of their life in a 6 by 8 cell.
Perhaps some else can chime in of where you will be able to find more manufactured women in mass beside Dolce as I only see them in large quantities there.
Just remember, your safety comes first, don't get drugged, don't get set up, and don't get any cops involved in anything.
Best of luck to your adventure.
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Mojo Bandit
10-06-23, 23:09
Anyone heard anthing about a strip club called Club Stars xno in Cartagena? I have been getting a lot of chicas popping up in my "people you may know" Faeboo sugested friends section who have the link on their page to this site- some are hot and some are not. Most of the profiles look put up like they are either fake or are there to do business. I am going to send friend rquest to them and go "fishing" for information to see if they are actuall pros or if it is a scam.
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61550270638506
Anyone heard anthing about a strip club called Club Stars xno in Cartagena? I have been getting a lot of chicas popping up in my "people you may know" Faeboo sugested friends section who have the link on their page to this site- some are hot and some are not. Most of the profiles look put up like they are either fake or are there to do business. I am going to send friend rquest to them and go "fishing" for information to see if they are actuall pros or if it is a scam.
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61550270638506Mia Khalifa's ugly mug on there, that tells you all you need to know LOL.
No need to go fishing, all those pictures on there are old ass washed up Pornstars slapped with the MILF hashtag. So maybe this is targeting the Boomers who likes them over 35 with big fake tits.
Mojo Bandit
10-08-23, 01:09
Mia Khalifa's ugly mug on there, that tells you all you need to know LOL.
No need to go fishing, all those pictures on there are old ass washed up Pornstars slapped with the MILF hashtag. So maybe this is targeting the Boomers who likes them over 35 with big fake tits.I do not know who Mia Khalifa is but I am sure you are correcty about her being a washed up porn star. I agree that when you click on the page the photos are all older ugly looking women but in my defence when I said some are hot, the ones showing up in my FB suggested friends list are not as ugly. I am posting photos of some of the ones showing up in my FB suggested friends feed. I also spotted a porn girl that I recogized named Mila (out of this world natural body!)
I posted her photo among the ones I am posting here (the one with braided pigtails). Another thing that makes their profiles look fake is that they only have female friends showing up. I was jumping the gun when I asked if it was a strip club too because it does not say that anywhere. I just wondered why it shows a "map location" - but a closer looks shows that is fake also.
I am posting the one profile I can be 99 percent sure is fake and aanyone interested can look through her friend list and see the other fake profiles as they seem to all be FB friends with each other. There seem to be a few genuine profiles sprinkled in but those are mostly men who probably clicked before the looked close enough or they are just dim witted.
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100085673155124
My advice for "best" looking girls is good to playa Hollywood during the daytime typically best results are around 4 PM till they close. For nighttime time you have El Centro and the three major Dolce Vita, Space and Delirium. Make sure your hotel or Airbnb is chica friendly and allows you to bring guests. In regards to looks and height that has literally never been an issue to me and I'm 5'6 but I always recommend taking pride in your appearance no matter what. If a chica "rejects" you just keep it moving, there are literally hundreds of others down there.Do not pay upfront!
Another good reason to know your way around Playa Hollywood.
Although it has its issues, obviously-- its in everyone best interest there to not have you ripped off.
GeorgeCarta22
10-16-23, 07:51
Ok so with the advice of this group I am avoiding tinder (even though that's what I used for Cartagena contacts).
And have been trying to search girls in skimpy outfits located in Medellin. Problem is none of them are accepting my friend request. Anyone have any other tips?
I did try and friend girls who follow or view "gusto" and "la isla".
GeorgeCarta22
10-16-23, 20:20
Ok so with the advice of this group I am avoiding tinder (even though that's what I used for Cartagena contacts).
And have been trying to search girls in skimpy outfits located in Medellin. Problem is none of them are accepting my friend request. Anyone have any other tips?
I did try and friend girls who follow or view "gusto" and "la isla".Oops meant to put this in medellin.
PerkinWarbeck
10-20-23, 03:47
Bad news today. An American tourist was killed in a daylight robbery in Marbella. 59 year old man. Just crazy.
Marbella would seem to be a decent area because it's close to the airport, but it is also close to a terrible neighborhood, Daniel Lemaitre. If you are going to stay up there, stay at the resorts on the water and don't walk around. There is not a large security presence. Do not use AirBnB!
AirBnB is fine in downtown, Bocagrande, Getsemani, and Manga, but anywhere else and you are a real target.
Mr Enternational
10-20-23, 05:48
Bad news today. An American tourist was killed in a daylight robbery in Marbella. 59 year old man. Just crazy.
Marbella would seem to be a decent area because it's close to the airport, but it is also close to a terrible neighborhood, Daniel Lemaitre. If you are going to stay up there, stay at the resorts on the water and don't walk around. There is not a large security presence. Do not use AirBnB!
And do not wear gold chains! I do not think the airbnb mattered, since he was robbed and killed in the street. Also a 46 year old Swedish guy was found dead inside of the apartment in Santa Marta.
Bad news today. An American tourist was killed in a daylight robbery in Marbella. 59 year old man. Just crazy.
Marbella would seem to be a decent area because it's close to the airport, but it is also close to a terrible neighborhood, Daniel Lemaitre. If you are going to stay up there, stay at the resorts on the water and don't walk around. There is not a large security presence. Do not use AirBnB!
AirBnB is fine in downtown, Bocagrande, Getsemani, and Manga, but anywhere else and you are a real target.My chica told me about this today along with another one that got got. She said Christmas in coming and everyone trying to get gifts for their family by any means necessary and the closer to Christmas, the worse it gets.
Then she sent me the story, and its crazy because it happened right in front of the building I was going to buy an apartment in and there is usually cops right by that bridge coming from Marbella into that barrio. Also it makes no sense why he was standing there solo for that long looking distracted that he didn't see them pass on the motorcycle then turn around on the one-way street, and ride in the opposite direction to get that close to him.
I believe he was killed because instead of giving up the chain, he fought back. That jewelry just isn't worth it.
I used to tell them "don't be flashing money", they told me "stop pocket watching".
I used to tell them "stop trying to take 2 chicas at once", they told "me stop dick policing".
I used to tell them "stop wearing the jewelry", they told me "stop fear mongering".
Can't tell these old heads shit because they stuck in their ways, can't tell these young cats shit because they know everything.
So now I don't say much in the whatsapp groups or forums anymore.
Hello all, I've been reading up I still have not booked a airbnb. After reading the guest policy from what seems 90% if places. Any body have an airbnb link hidden away by chance for more options?. Also have I've read is thus place is pretty tainted, beaches can be like the DR with consent people attempting to sell you things and over crowded beaches? I am more familiar with medellin and San andres, so I need to learn the game here. I am mexican and speak Spanish so I am ok with that. I do plan on doing tourist things and maybe visiting a club or two. But my main focus was thr beach, just gettinf a chair setting myself up grab a drink and just enjoy myself if chicas come and go that will be better. I usually do tinder before hand and have a few intalk to. I do the same in medellin which works wonder and you occasionally get a girl that just wants to hangout. I pay for everything and we enjoy ourselves. Any tips from the Cartagena O. G. s if very appreciated. Also I travel solo, always have. Thanks again.
Minilabs2020
10-30-23, 12:33
I plan on bringing around $1 k in USD in cash just for prostitutes, I plan on visiting the Delirium Night Club, where all of the black people will be at. I can't wait to get to Cartagena. I'll be there for a week at the end of November.
Any tips, pointers anybody wants to give me?
I'm planning to go to Columbia around mid-December and I'm going to stay for 2 months.
I've never been to Columbia. I've been to the Dominican Republic in the past and in the last 4 years I've been to Brazil (Rio and Fortaleza) about 2 months a year. . So I think it's time for the new adventure.
I have read a few pages and many are not enthusiastic about Cartagena. But I think circumstances have changed all over the world, I also notice that in Brazil. I'm also in doubt.
I'm actually planning to go to Medelin, but first I want to go to Cartagena or Santa Marta. I have two questions: Is there anything to do in Santa Marta? Are there also clubs such as Dolce, Space, Dellium in Cartagena?(I read that here).
And if I'm going to stay in Cartagena in Airbnb, which neighborhoods should I stay in that are girl-friendly, which can also be hotels! During the day I plan to go to the beach.
Thanks in advance and greetings from the Netherlands.
I'm planning to go to Columbia around mid-December and I'm going to stay for 2 months.
I've never been to Columbia. I've been to the Dominican Republic in the past and in the last 4 years I've been to Brazil (Rio and Fortaleza) about 2 months a year. . So I think it's time for the new adventure.
I have read a few pages and many are not enthusiastic about Cartagena. But I think circumstances have changed all over the world, I also notice that in Brazil. I'm also in doubt.
I'm actually planning to go to Medelin, but first I want to go to Cartagena or Santa Marta. I have two questions: Is there anything to do in Santa Marta? Are there also clubs such as Dolce, Space, Dellium in Cartagena?(I read that here).
And if I'm going to stay in Cartagena in Airbnb, which neighborhoods should I stay in that are girl-friendly, which can also be hotels! During the day I plan to go to the beach.
Thanks in advance and greetings from the Netherlands.Hey there,
I will be heading to Colombia as well in December for about a month. I'm currently planning, a few days in Bogota, a week plus in Medellin, and then finish up in Cartagena. I have been a few times, so if you looking to grab a beer let me know. I am just waiting for my membership to activate to use PMs. I have read that there is still tons to do in Cartagena, your trip is what you make of it.
J.
John Gault
11-01-23, 15:12
I plan on bringing around $1 k in USD in cash just for prostitutes, I plan on visiting the Delirium Night Club, where all of the black people will be at. I can't wait to get to Cartagena. I'll be there for a week at the end of November.
Any tips, pointers anybody wants to give me?Use the ATM to get pesos for payments to girls. Please do not give dollars or even talk to ones who ask for dollars. The girls know you are not a regular if they talk dollars to you and will charge you more than normal.
Use the ATM to get pesos for payments to girls. Please do not give dollars or even talk to ones who ask for dollars. The girls know you are not a regular if they talk dollars to you and will charge you more than normal.If he brings $1 k usd in cash into Colombia then he will need to convert it into COP using one of those money exchange places that offers a lower rate than the ATM machines. Then he can use the COP cash to pay the prostis. He will probably get around 4 millones de pesos for his $1 k usd.
Black Page
11-04-23, 20:26
If he brings $1 k usd in cash into Colombia then he will need to convert it into COP using one of those money exchange places that offers a lower rate than the ATM machines. Then he can use the COP cash to pay the prostis. He will probably get around 4 millones de pesos for his $1 k usd.And he will lose money versus what he would have got by taking cash COP from local ATMs. This topic is so old, yet it comes out periodically.
The only reason I see to bring 1000 USD cash to Colombia is if they are black money that one does not want to deposit in a bank account. In that case, ok, take that money to Colombia and spend it for fun.
World Wide Wes
11-04-23, 21:11
Greetings everyone and thank you to the many contributions. I have shared a few myself. I'm heading to CTG in a couple weeks and was wondering if anyone had any info on boat rental recommendations. I don't feel like getting haggled or jerked when we get to the dock. Thanks in advance.
Does anyone has an opinion on spending New Years Eve in Cartagena? For the maximum impact does it make sense to just wonder around and have random good time with people (I understand the security concerns but I'm relatively experienced traveler) or try to book the place like El Beluarte and just go there?
How does it compare to the New Years eve at Rio's Copacabana beach which I think is something that one must do once in a lifetime?
Friends,
Bocagrande and Laguito are for Colombian families, and those families do not want to see or hear Cartagena's sex trade. I'm surprised there are any tourist accommodations that even allow a muchacha to your room. If you need to take a girl somewhere, there is an hourly hotel, Hotel Mar why Sol, that you can take a girl to in Bocagrande.
Either that, or an incall at the girl's place are your best bets.
I have no idea why people still stay down there. There's no night life. The beach sucks. The aren't any good restaurants. No clue.
I only go down there for the occasional outcall if a muchacha catches my eye, or the movie theater in plaza bocagrande that shows new releases in English.LOL I feel the exact opposite I only stay at bocagrande, bocagrande and the islands are for the day time, centro for the night time for partying, there is nothing to do in the walled city in the day time after you roamed around the whole place a few times, I usually get a nice beachfront apartment which has nice views so it feels like an actual vacation, you can't get that in centro, you got to know which buildings are chica friendly, and pretty much all of them are if you tip the doorman or make friend's with them.
I believe he was killed because instead of giving up the chain, he fought back. That jewelry just isn't worth it.
I used to tell them "don't be flashing money", they told me "stop pocket watching".
I used to tell them "stop trying to take 2 chicas at once", they told "me stop dick policing".
I used to tell them "stop wearing the jewelry", they told me "stop fear mongering".
Can't tell these old heads shit because they stuck in their ways, can't tell these young cats shit because they know everything.
So now I don't say much in the whatsapp groups or forums anymore.Very good advice for mongers to go anywhere in the world. In addition do not take your wallet. Carry only local currency enough for your needs. Even if you loose it no big deal.
Most of the world robbery happens by being beaten up. Killing is not common but Colombia is different. I felt quite safe in Cartagena even walking at el centro at night. It is better to keep to major thoroughfare where there lots of people walking. I found Uber us quite safe and fairly inexpensive.
GeorgeCarta22
11-18-23, 07:21
LOL I feel the exact opposite I only stay at bocagrande, bocagrande and the islands are for the day time, centro for the night time for partying, there is nothing to do in the walled city in the day time after you roamed around the whole place a few times, I usually get a nice beachfront apartment which has nice views so it feels like an actual vacation, you can't get that in centro, you got to know which buildings are chica friendly, and pretty much all of them are if you tip the doorman or make friend's with them.When I combed through all the airbnb the bocagrande places looked the best. But almost all of them said "no sex tourism".
And I honestly didn't even think about tipping the doorman.
Even with this data point ID be nervous of booking an airbnb that "doesn't allow sex tourism" because I could potentially risk my whole vacation.
From a post on reddit:
Hi there. I'm from Medellin, Colombia, but I travel a lot and I've been thinking about doing a post about Cartagena, as I think many people need to know the reality.
What made me want to do it today was the recent post where a guy talks about his trip through Latin America and how he was robbed in Cartagena.
I would just like you to know that Cartagena is an absolutely spectacular city, I have been to every continent and over 30 countries and I still think Cartagena, in terms of beauty, is one of the most beautiful cities in the world, but I think it is not worth visiting unless you are up for a very rough and perhaps disappointing experience, and here is why:
The basis of Cartagena's problem is that it has the most corrupt politicians in Colombia, there is so much corruption that there are only very rich or extremely poor people in Cartagena. Of course, there are exceptions, but visiting Cartagena you can see the inequality if you go outside the historic center.
Precisely because of this inequality, there are so many people trying to make you buy something from them, every three seconds (I swear, this is not an exaggeration), they will have sellers trying to sell anything; sometimes aggressively.
What you will not realize unless it is too late, is that many people in Cartagena have created extremely sophisticated strategies to make you pay a lot more than what things cost, especially if you look like a foreigner.
And I'm not talking about a bottle of water costing them $5 when it should cost $1, I'm talking about, almost every day in the Colombian news, we see several foreigners being offered shrimp on the beach, or a massage at a spa center, or a dinner at a restaurant that looks legit, and then their bill goes up to over USD $1500 for some reason the vendors claim. And because there is so much corruption, almost all the police can be bought, which means that these vendors already know the cops and promise them a cut of the money, so the police will be against you.
I teach Spanish as a foreign language, and all of my students have come back incredibly disappointed from their trip to Cartagena. It is still amazing to me how it remains such a popular destination. Just yesterday, my student from Canada came back from Cartagena and told me that the first night he was walking back to his hotel and two policemen (yes, two policemen) robbed him.
Again, I do think that Cartagena is, architecturally, the most beautiful city in Colombia, but the experience is so terrible that it doesn't end up being what anyone expects. I'm sure there are many exceptions and that it is possible to have an amazing time in Cartagena, but if you are planning a trip to this city, please be aware of the things I say.
Cartagena pre-COVID was a much better place to visit. The lockdowns had a dire effect on the people. I wish more people would realize this, but the the majority of Cartageneros earn less than 50 k pesos for an honest day's work. In the barrios east of Armenia, there is truly abject poverty.
Without tourists coming in during lockdowns and with an influx of Venezuelan migrants, the city declined even further. City leadership has been poor as services have declined in quality.
While all this happened, as the lockdowns ended, instagram blew the city up. So while the poor have become even worse off, the city is now receiving an increased amount of tourists that would normally go to Cancun or Punta Cana. Now the gringo pricing is driven way up, and the public beaches in Cartagena proper, which were never a good place to go, have become unbearable.
I live in Manga. A sit down restaurant was just robbed a few blocks from the police center earlier this year. Pie de la Popa is across the bridge and has seen a lot of robberies lately. The police presence is even stronger downtown, and at night, they don't allow motos in, which makes it even safer.
Elvis 2008
11-30-23, 20:37
From a post on reddit:
Hi there. I'm from Medellin, Colombia, but I travel a lot and I've been thinking about doing a post about Cartagena, as I think many people need to know the reality.
What made me want to do it today was the recent post where a guy talks about his trip through Latin America and how he was robbed in Cartagena.
I would just like you to know that Cartagena is an absolutely spectacular city, I have been to every continent and over 30 countries and I still think Cartagena, in terms of beauty, is one of the most beautiful cities in the world, but I think it is not worth visiting unless you are up for a very rough and perhaps disappointing experience, and here is why:
The basis of Cartagena's problem is that it has the most corrupt politicians in Colombia, there is so much corruption that there are only very rich or extremely poor people in Cartagena. Of course, there are exceptions, but visiting Cartagena you can see the inequality if you go outside the historic center.
Precisely because of this inequality, there are so many people trying to make you buy something from them, every three seconds (I swear, this is not an exaggeration), they will have sellers trying to sell anything; sometimes aggressively.
What you will not realize unless it is too late, is that many people in Cartagena have created extremely sophisticated strategies to make you pay a lot more than what things cost, especially if you look like a foreigner.
And I'm not talking about a bottle of water costing them $5 when it should cost $1, I'm talking about, almost every day in the Colombian news, we see several foreigners being offered shrimp on the beach, or a massage at a spa center, or a dinner at a restaurant that looks legit, and then their bill goes up to over USD $1500 for some reason the vendors claim. And because there is so much corruption, almost all the police can be bought, which means that these vendors already know the cops and promise them a cut of the money, so the police will be against you.
I teach Spanish as a foreign language, and all of my students have come back incredibly disappointed from their trip to Cartagena. It is still amazing to me how it remains such a popular destination. Just yesterday, my student from Canada came back from Cartagena and told me that the first night he was walking back to his hotel and two policemen (yes, two policemen) robbed him.
Again, I do think that Cartagena is, architecturally, the most beautiful city in Colombia, but the experience is so terrible that it doesn't end up being what anyone expects. I'm sure there are many exceptions and that it is possible to have an amazing time in Cartagena, but if you are planning a trip to this city, please be aware of the things I say.
Cartagena pre-COVID was a much better place to visit. The lockdowns had a dire effect on the people. I wish more people would realize this, but the the majority of Cartageneros earn less than 50 k pesos for an honest day's work. In the barrios east of Armenia, there is truly abject poverty.
Without tourists coming in during lockdowns and with an influx of Venezuelan migrants, the city declined even further. City leadership has been poor as services have declined in quality.
While all this happened, as the lockdowns ended, instagram blew the city up. So while the poor have become even worse off, the city is now receiving an increased amount of tourists that would normally go to Cancun or Punta Cana. Now the gringo pricing is driven way up, and the public beaches in Cartagena proper, which were never a good place to go, have become unbearable.
I live in Manga. A sit down restaurant was just robbed a few blocks from the police center earlier this year. Pie de la Popa is across the bridge and has seen a lot of robberies lately. The police presence is even stronger downtown, and at night, they don't allow motos in, which makes it even safer.Fair enough, but last time I was in Cartagena, it was as hot as I can remember it. If you are looking at getting out of the cold in the North, the place is a no-brainer. I have been to Florida in December / January and froze my ass off. You do not need to worry about that in CTG.
I am not saying the poster is wrong but he makes it seem like there is this Colombian versus North American attitude. Cab drivers try to rip off anyone including Colombians. Yeah, if you go to Hollywood beach, you are going to have the toots bug the crap out of you even if you are Colombian, but if you go to Playa CastilloGrande, the toots are nowhere near as obnoxious.
I don't know about the overcharging at a restaurant thing, but I do know that often when I have had a disputed charge, the bank / credit card company will put a stop to it and compensate me. And my gal stares at the bills with an eagle eye to make sure we are not overcharged for anything.
I am sure there are corrupt police in Cartagena, but I have dealt with much more corrupt ones in and around Cancun.
I have not had any issues with Cartagena like what is described and I suspect it is because I hang mostly in Manga and have not been looking for drugs and or sex. If I were looking for women around the clock tower at night, I am sure things would be different.
And yeah, I get the poverty. I get how high rents are and how much of the city is off limits to people who do not have the money, and that creates tension.
Still, he makes it sound like everyone gets mugged or ripped off, and I have not been. I just stay away from the troublesome areas and stay away even more so at night. When I last looked out my window, there were three cruise ships docked in CTG. If things were really as bad as the author says, would the cruise ships still be coming?
Call 165 Gaula in case of extortion.
https://www.policia.gov.co/
https://www.cartagena.gov.co/denunciascorrupcion
Jabskiiler
12-03-23, 06:07
My first time here to my shock a lot of the Chicas are asking $100 USD.
Don't pay it -- approach next one who catches you attention.
The ballpark for Clock tower sh be 300,000 -320,000.
It is Christmas season so prices will be inflated.
I recommend staying out of the clubs as it is difficult to interview / converse with the girls.
Good luck.
Mr Enternational
12-04-23, 06:17
Don't pay it -- approach next one who catches you attention. The ballpark for Clock tower sh be 300,000 -320,000. It is Christmas season so prices will be inflated.LOL. So he should be paying $80 instead of $100? Dude it is Colombia. Who cares what season it is. A taxi does not charge me more due to it being Christmas season, so those broads should not either. My first time to Cartagena I was also shocked at the prices of not only the girls, but also the accommodations. The prices are not on point with the rest of Colombia. Even San Andres Island is more inline with the rest of the country.
Went through the forum, here are some questions I have as a CAR 1st timer coming for Christmas weekend. I'll make a detailed trip report and willing to share any exp I have from North Am and Europe.
Recs on where to stay girl friendly airbnb / hotel that's walking distance to clocktower / clubs and Playa bocagrande? Even worth staying walking distance and just Uber everywhere? Uber separate from picked up girls?
Background: Early 30 syo mixed brown gringo, have passed for Dominican or dark Cuban / Brazilian. Have exp (Miami / ATL, Amsterdam, Barcelona, Montreal, Tijuana, Cancun / Tulum, Bogota). My Spanish is weak, but enough to negotiate prices / service, greetings. I'm going solo.
Goal: To as safely & efficiently, have sex with working girls for my short stay. I should be situated by Fri evening and leave very early Mon morning. I don't plan on doing touristy things, or going too luxury on food until I figure out the girls. I don't care to drink much alcohol while soliciting.
Logistics: Last recs on where to stay in forum came up short.
Gameplan: 1 pm-6 pm range check out Playa HW. 10 pm-1 am scope out clocktower & clubs. I'd like to get 2 or 3 girls a day. I feel like I'll get the gringo tax even tho I pass for LatinX (until I speak). Plain face, but I'm in good shape & dress clean (but also plain, nothing flashy).
Jabskiiler
12-06-23, 00:33
After this trip Cartagena is my no go list. The chicas her are overpriced and conniving.
I have been to Sosua several times and Pattaya I love them both.
Chica 1 a Venezuelan. I meet her we agreed to 100,000 pesos got her back to the room she said no $100 usd. I said fuck it I paid her and she under performed.
Chica 2 a tall dark girl we agreed to 300,000 cop. After some BJ and them deed she demanded 300,000 cop for each. After making a scene and the hotel doorman come up I wound up giving her 500,000 cop to get the fuck out.
I have been speaking to the massage girls. They all say 150,00 to 170,000 cop for the massage plus 100,000 to 150,000 for the happy ending.
I'm in the walled city near the clock tower.
I never had things like this happened to me anywhere. And LOL I can get cheaper prices and better service in Florida.
Today 1 usd = 4010 cop.
PerkinWarbeck
12-06-23, 04:49
After this trip Cartagena is my no go list. The chicas her are overpriced and conniving.
I have been to Sosua several times and Pattaya I love them both.
Chica 1 a Venezuelan. I meet her we agreed to 100,000 pesos got her back to the room she said no $100 usd. I said fuck it I paid her and she under performed.
Chica 2 a tall dark girl we agreed to 300,000 cop. After some BJ and them deed she demanded 300,000 cop for each. After making a scene and the hotel doorman come up I wound up giving her 500,000 cop to get the fuck out.
I have been speaking to the massage girls. They all say 150,00 to 170,000 cop for the massage plus 100,000 to 150,000 for the happy ending.
I'm in the walled city near the clock tower.
I never had things like this happened to me anywhere. And LOL I can get cheaper prices and better service in Florida.
Today 1 usd = 4010 cop.Yes! Hunting in Centro will get you rip-off prices. If you are looking for more affordable mongering, go to Barranquilla. In Cartagena, the pages (mileroticos and skokka) will have the best prices because that is where Colombian men go to find girls. There prices are usually in the 150 k range for an incall in Bosque or for the more convenient girls, Bocagrande or Laguito. The same girls you see at the Clock Tower will also go for much cheaper with Colombian men in the barrios.
ElSexoChino7
12-06-23, 09:43
When I combed through all the airbnb the bocagrande places looked the best. But almost all of them said "no sex tourism".
And I honestly didn't even think about tipping the doorman.
Even with this data point ID be nervous of booking an airbnb that "doesn't allow sex tourism" because I could potentially risk my whole vacation.Doorman doesn't make that much being a doorman. So anything extra cash they can make while working helps out big time. I did this on my last visit in Cartagena last May. I found this really nice beachfront Airbnb in Laguito area. Only deal breaker is, "No sex tourism". I even asked the host and strictly said I will be kicked out and won't be refunded. It was my first night and that was Friday, I picked up this chick in Delirium, was having a good time with her the whole night and totally forgot about the Airbnb while we are in the Uber. I told the chica to wait outside the Airbnb. I went in first, talk to the door guy and told him I got a girl to bring with me in my room, before he can even talk I slide 50 k on his hand and nodded that I'm good to go. I did this the next night with a different door man and got the same result. Bottom line is, to be nice with the door guy and tipping them goes a long way.
Crazy how these dudes still think they're in Sosua.
https://youtube.com/shorts/0I2qgHXG40Q?si=JsV6-x1Flh_nnU5y
Yes! Hunting in Centro will get you rip-off prices. If you are looking for more affordable mongering, go to Barranquilla. In Cartagena, the pages (mileroticos and skokka) will have the best prices because that is where Colombian men go to find girls. There prices are usually in the 150 k range for an incall in Bosque or for the more convenient girls, Bocagrande or Laguito. The same girls you see at the Clock Tower will also go for much cheaper with Colombian men in the barrios.So basically what you are saying is that Cartagena is a rip off tourist trap for gringos. All over Colombia you can find street girls in the centros of various pueblos and cities for about 40 mil pesos give or take. Online escorts from mileroticos skokka etc. Are never cheaper than street girls unless if you're talking about parque lleras in Medellin which specifically caters to foreigners and gringos.
So in other words the whole of the Cartagena centro street scene is like another parque lleras? Another place where 40 k peso bitches put on a pretty dress and charge tourists 200 mil?
I'm glad I've never gone to cartagena and I'm sure now that I never will. If I want to enjoy the beach there's better options such as Santa Marta that actually has value to it and isn't some gringo tourist trap.
And if I'm going for puro mongering then obviously Santa Fe in Bogota is the place to go. Fuck Cartagena and it's stupid dum dum bitches.
-Gabacho.
PerkinWarbeck
12-16-23, 15:04
So basically what you are saying is that Cartagena is a rip off tourist trap for gringos. All over Colombia you can find street girls in the centros of various pueblos and cities for about 40 mil pesos give or take. Online escorts from mileroticos skokka etc. Are never cheaper than street girls unless if you're talking about parque lleras in Medellin which specifically caters to foreigners and gringos.
So in other words the whole of the Cartagena centro street scene is like another parque lleras? Another place where 40 k peso bitches put on a pretty dress and charge tourists 200 mil?
I'm glad I've never gone to cartagena and I'm sure now that I never will. If I want to enjoy the beach there's better options such as Santa Marta that actually has value to it and isn't some gringo tourist trap.
And if I'm going for puro mongering then obviously Santa Fe in Bogota is the place to go. Fuck Cartagena and it's stupid dum dum bitches.
-Gabacho.You pretty much nailed it. Do not go to Cartagena for mongering. It's overpriced with a smaller pool of girls. And the prices are high because accommodations are expensive, even for the girls.
Barranquilla is much better if you just want to try as many girls as you want. Bogota and Medellin are less expensive, and they have many more chicas to choose from.
Cartagena isn't a mongering destination. It's a vacation destination with mongering options. If you bring a girl with you to wife up for a week, it's a great time, and she'll love it. Take her around the tourist zones for pictures during the day, maybe a massage in the afternoon, go out and rumba at night, and then have sex all night. That’s the blueprint
Cartagena isn't a mongering destination. It's a vacation destination with mongering options. I think it is a mongering destination since you will find a greater concentration of street walkers than most places in Colombia. You can go to one of the nice beaches, there is architecture and some stuff to do. You can also get some really nice apartments on the water. But, prices have increased and there is a lot more traffic these days as Cartagena and Colombia, in general, has become way more popular thanks to Youtube and other sources of information.
You can go to other cities like Barranquilla, Bucaramanga, Pereira and do some mongering in those places, but beyond that it will be pretty boring after a couple of days. Cali can be fun. Maybe even other cities that the Youtubers don't frequent that are still low-key where you can use dating apps with much less fear of getting drugged and hook up with a non-pro or meet them around town. Every city will have something to offer in varying degrees, but Cartagena is easy for non-spanish speaking American mongers.
Elvis 2008
12-16-23, 16:30
Yes! Hunting in Centro will get you rip-off prices. If you are looking for more affordable mongering, go to Barranquilla. In Cartagena, the pages (mileroticos and skokka) will have the best prices because that is where Colombian men go to find girls. There prices are usually in the 150 k range for an incall in Bosque or for the more convenient girls, Bocagrande or Laguito. The same girls you see at the Clock Tower will also go for much cheaper with Colombian men in the barrios.If you are looking for bargains then by all means you should look at Medellin and Bogota. Barranquilla has a ton of lookers but the mongering scene is not as robust as the big two.
I think it is a mongering destination since you will find a greater concentration of street walkers than most places in Colombia. You can go to one of the nice beaches, there is architecture and some stuff to do. You can also get some really nice apartments on the water. But, prices have increased and there is a lot more traffic these days as Cartagena and Colombia, in general, has become way more popular thanks to Youtube and other sources of information.I agree, and I would add that guys need to look at the weather. We have too many guys on here looking at getting laid for $20. Cartagena is not that. Again, if you network and are willing to stick around and spend more time than money, I am sure you can great pussy for next to nothing.
I think you should compare Cartagena though to Florida and the Caribbean. If you are looking to get some heat and sun in March through May, Florida is a great place to go. Now? Not so much. The highs in Orlando the next few days are mid 60's and lows are mid 40's, and the Bahamas are not that much better. You can see those temps in middle America in the winter. This time of year in Cartagena, there is no rain and it is hot as balls. You are going to get 90 during the day and 80 at night which is what people in the North want when they go on a vacation.
So yeah, if you compare Cartagena to the rest of Colombia, it is expensive. If you compare it to Florida and the Caribbean, I think you could make the case it is still a bargain even including the mongering.
PerkinWarbeck
12-16-23, 16:45
I think it is a mongering destination since you will find a greater concentration of street walkers than most places in Colombia. You can go to one of the nice beaches, there is architecture and some stuff to do. You can also get some really nice apartments on the water. But, prices have increased and there is a lot more traffic these days as Cartagena and Colombia, in general, has become way more popular thanks to Youtube and other sources of information.
You can go to other cities like Barranquilla, Bucaramanga, Pereira and do some mongering in those places, but beyond that it will be pretty boring after a couple of days. Cali can be fun. Maybe even other cities that the Youtubers don't frequent that are still low-key where you can use dating apps with much less fear of getting drugged and hook up with a non-pro or meet them around town. Every city will have something to offer in varying degrees, but Cartagena is easy for non-spanish speaking American mongers.Not even. Cartagena's "red light district" is literally just a square. Most of the sex trade is online. Just like Medellin and Bogota, but those cities have a lot more women. Barranquilla's massage parlors offer basically the same thing. And it's not easier. It's become almost impossible to bring a muchacha back with yu.
Not even. Cartagena's "red light district" is literally just a square. Most of the sex trade is online. Just like Medellin and Bogota, but those cities have a lot more women. Barranquilla's massage parlors offer basically the same thing. And it's not easier. It's become almost impossible to bring a muchacha back with yu.But there is a higher concentration in the Walled City than anywhere in Quilla. Online stuff, I don't know about so you might be right. Never used online sites. Have lived in Medellin for 7 years and never used FB or any online sites.
Mr Enternational
12-16-23, 17:49
Do not go to Cartagena for mongering. It's overpriced with a smaller pool of girls. And the prices are high because accommodations are expensive, even for the girls.But guys are not going to Cartagena just to stick their dick into pussy. They are going for the total experience. They want the beach, the clubs, the feeling they are picking up a chick that is not a hooker, the feeling they are on vacation.
I can't believe the mfs that keep posting videos online talking about how easy it is to get chicks in Cartagena, when the obvious part of the videos is that the chicks are hookers. Their next video should be walking into McDonald's and being served burgers.
P.S. Stop trying to send mfs to Barranquilla trying to fuck it up. It would not work anyway because BAQ is not that type of setting.
But guys are not going to Cartagena just to stick their dick into pussy. They are going for the total experience. They want the beach, the clubs, the feeling they are picking up a chick that is not a hooker, the feeling they are on vacation.
I can't believe the mfs that keep posting videos online talking about how easy it is to get chicks in Cartagena, when the obvious part of the videos is that the chicks are hookers. Their next video should be walking into McDonald's and being served burgers.
P.S. Stop trying to send mfs to Barranquilla trying to fuck it up. It would not work anyway because BAQ is not that type of setting.I'm going near solely for the girls. Beach looks mid, the clubs as a solo guy don't matter as much since I'm not getting bottle service looking like a target. I prefer bottle / tables as an older clubber since I hate crowds but I'm content with standing room at Dolce Vita, Space.
I'm a guy that's restricted to short 3-4 day visits, & Delta has nonsensical flight costs for different cities (Bogota is $1300 while a connect to BOG to CTG costs $390 wtf). Have my 1st trip this week, as a somewhat intermediate skilled monger I'm still excited.
Considering globally prices are going up, and the rich vlogger bro advertising CTG saying $100 is expected and reasonable. I still think the rules of success of being able to walk away, and knowing Spanish will still get those sub $70 rates with even top girls. Even with poor Spanish I got good BOG / SF rates by walking away / countering.
Doing the basic stuff we talk on ISG like hygiene / etiquette / attraction is also important. All the SF girls told me most of the gringos coming through are sloppy, rude. Most of the Vlogger YT tips on Cartagena I find to be annoying, make it rain, hood types I deal with in Miami / ATL so I'm not surprised Youtube prices are high.
PerkinWarbeck
12-17-23, 16:34
But there is a higher concentration in the Walled City than anywhere in Quilla. Online stuff, I don't know about so you might be right. Never used online sites. Have lived in Medellin for 7 years and never used FB or any online sites.On a random night in Centro, there are usually fewer than 100 girls working the clubs + the square. That's not a lot, especially since you'the disqualify a good chunk of them based on attractiveness.
On a random night in Centro, there are usually fewer than 100 girls working the clubs + the square. That's not a lot, especially since you'the disqualify a good chunk of them based on attractiveness.Looks are subjective. I don't go to Cartagena much, but when I've been there were definitely more than 100 chicas. There was also daytime action at locations outside of the Walled City. Outside of major cities like Bogota and Medellin, what city do you think has more women walking the streets and working the clubs (non online action) than Cartagena?
WanderingMan
12-17-23, 22:04
Crazy how these dudes still think they're in Sosua.
https://youtube.com/shorts/0I2qgHXG40Q?si=JsV6-x1Flh_nnU5yNot only brazenly exhibiting ghetto behaviors everywhere they go, but shamelessly posting poor manners online. Many avoid Sosua just to escape individuals who act like this. Ultimately, may they get what they deserve.
Elvis 2008
12-18-23, 21:13
I could not get my gal to accompany me there. She complained about the smells, the crime, the heat, and she had not been. I had friends who came and said that Bazurto had some of the best food they had in Cartagena while on a guided tour but I did not have time to go with them. I joked with my gal that the market was actually a fantasy and did not exist.
Finally, a friend of my gal said she and her husband would show us around. We piled into their car and went in. Okay, yeah, it smelled like fish guts, and the entire market was surrounded by birds looking for a free handout, but I had been to worse open markets. One of the stalls had an area that had air conditioned seating. We got a large crab, coconut rice with shrimp, some tasty dish made with fish, and bananas with a red syrup for desert. There were five of us, and this plate of food along with a choice of beer and sodas, all of which we did not finish, was $4 or less than $20 total for everyone. In contrast, I went to the snobby restaurant Cande for appetizers and cocktails a few days before this and paid like $60 for three of us, and this food IMO was better and more plentiful.
I saw Anthony Bourdain go to this market and always wanted to. I did not mean to get the turtle as he did, but someone in our group got some and I tried it, tough but edible.
One of the gripes I heard about the market was that it sold a bunch of cheap shit, and it did. If you are a local getting by on next to nothing, this is where you would shop. If you want upscale, you go to the malls.
I did not feel unsafe at all. The only weird part is when I was full, I mentioned lobster, langosta, to my gal. It was then I had these hard edged black women, the women I know who are the best cooks in real life in the world, grab me and say, "Yo tengo langosta. " I have lobster. I thought it was more out of pride in wanting to share with me their cooking than anything else. It was the only time I came close to feeling anything unsafe.
I remember going to a restaurant in Key Largo Florida that had all the stone crabs you could eat. I always felt before that night that I never had enough crab. I always wanted more. That night after twenty or so crabs, I was finally satiated. I think the same of lobster. It would be nice to just go there and eat like ten or so lobsters just to get that desire of having more out of your system. I saw a couple from Japan in Mancora Peru buy a freshly caught Tuna and eat the whole damned thing on the dock. It sounds like they wanted that never getting enough tuna out of their system too.
I am getting to the point where I am getting a list of places that I have to eat every time I come here. I have Pizza at Verona restaurant. I have to go to Serrezuela food court and get the lomo at the Bistro in the food court (way better than Andres IMO). If you go to the Serrezuela court, and you are crazy is you do not, on your left from Bistro, there is a place called Tobu which IMO has the best Sushi in town. Then to your right, there is a place called Coralito the best ceviche I have ever had. Right next to Coralito is a bar which makes Cartagena mojitos which are the best drink I have had here. Away from Serrezeula, I have also had good burgers at Distrito Burger bar and Vagabundo, more expensive but much better than El Corral my previous best here.
Bourdain went to the Cevichera in the walled city when he was here. He also went to the island of Tierra Bomba for the fresh fish and lobster, and he went to Bazurto to see what the locals had. After going he said that he did not understand why Colombia was not more popular, the food is good, and the people are friendly. I shook my head at the "the food is good" comment.
Thing is I do think the upscale restaurants outside of the food court in Serrezeula have been disappointing. I do want to try the rabbit at Cande but outside of that and having cocktails at ALQUMICO and trying more dishes at Barzuto, I think I am done venturing out to "the best places" to eat and drink in Cartagena. I am happy with my circle of places now.
And yes, I cannot believe I am saying this, but I do now actually like and look forward to the food in Cartagena. If anyone tells my gal this, I will deny it. LOL. But some of the food here is really, really good.
Chico Bonito
12-19-23, 05:47
A few weeks ago I was in Cartagena, and looked up La Sucursal Night Club, which I had read on various websites is a strip club which doubles as a brothel (and for prices much cheaper than the street / club chicas in Centro Historico.
However, when I did some research, I found a news article about how the city had shutdown this location in May 2023 as part of a crackdown on forced sex labor. I then found their Facebook and Instagram pages and they seemed to still be in business, although the style and wording of their advertising had changed after May.
A couple of phone numbers for the place seemed to be no longer in service, but I finally found one that worked and was able to chat with them through WhatsApp. Unfortunately, they didn't provide me with much information other than their hours of operation and "yes, we have private rooms", and seemed very reluctant to answer most of my questions, even though I was trying to keep my questions as un-incriminating as possible.
In conclusion, I can't tell if they are still in full business mode as a brothel, or if they are back as strictly a strip club now. These doubts made me decide to not make the trip to that part of town to check the club out. Anyone have updated info on this place?
A few weeks ago I was in Cartagena, and looked up La Sucursal Night Club, which I had read on various websites is a strip club which doubles as a brothel (and for prices much cheaper than the street / club chicas in Centro Historico.
However, when I did some research, I found a news article about how the city had shutdown this location in May 2023 as part of a crackdown on forced sex labor. I then found their Facebook and Instagram pages and they seemed to still be in business, although the style and wording of their advertising had changed after May.
A couple of phone numbers for the place seemed to be no longer in service, but I finally found one that worked and was able to chat with them through WhatsApp. Unfortunately, they didn't provide me with much information other than their hours of operation and "yes, we have private rooms", and seemed very reluctant to answer most of my questions, even though I was trying to keep my questions as un-incriminating as possible.
In conclusion, I can't tell if they are still in full business mode as a brothel, or if they are back as strictly a strip club now. These doubts made me decide to not make the trip to that part of town to check the club out. Anyone have updated info on this place?Unless you're in a group, with fluency, and street smarts I don't think it's a safe, high yield option unless you're there a long time, don't have a girl friendly place.
Black Page
12-20-23, 12:24
I could not get my gal to accompany me there. She complained about the smells, the crime, the heat, and she had not been. I had friends who came and said that Bazurto had some of the best food they had in Cartagena while on a guided tour but I did not have time to go with them. I joked with my gal that the market was actually a fantasy and did not exist.
I went to Bazurto a few times, but more than 5 years ago, walking all the way from Centro (I like the immersive experience). Dangerous if one flashes money and expensive items, which is something one should never do.
About high-class restaurants, I still stick to Cuzco and Quebracho. Very rewarding dinners after a tiring day.
HumpyDumpty11
12-20-23, 20:53
Cartagena isn't a mongering destination. It's a vacation destination with mongering options.It all depends how you monger. So people like the simple pick up your phone and find a girl, through Tinder or prepagos. And then there are those who like the thrill of the hunt. Those who like to see what they are getting before they purchase. Those who like to change their mind last minute cause they saw something better.
Cartagena is great for mongering. You need to experience for yourself and make that determination. It all depends on how you move.
HumpyDumpty11
12-20-23, 21:07
Considering globally prices are going up, and the rich vlogger bro advertising CTG saying $100 is expected and reasonable.I know a chica who told me that $100 is what every girl quotes (at least in the clubs). They have all agreed that is the going rate and most won't go below that. Like they formed a union. But everyone is forgetting the magic key. If you speak (even a little bit) and immerse yourself in the culture, that price drops or you can get $100 for 2,3,4 hours. It does work. Then when you build that report with a few over the months and years, you get them for $50 for the whole day. , if they even want money.
Learn a few Reggaeton hooks, if you like the club scene. If you prefer the street game, learn the basic Spanish greeting and follow-up phrases. If you like the hunt and negotiating is your thing, when one girl says no, her girlfriend or the girl next to her might say yes. They all got to eat and living is hard for most of them.
Oh and the influx of new talent is amazing in Cartagena. You may see a new chica in Jan and by June she's gone and been replaced by your new chica you just picked up.
HumpyDumpty11
12-20-23, 21:12
On a random night in Centro, there are usually fewer than 100 girls working the clubs + the square. That's not a lot, especially since you'the disqualify a good chunk of them based on attractiveness.Mon, Tues, and Wed are the slowest nights. Things pic up on Thur, on full swing for Fri and Sat. Sun is like a Thurs. The clubs normally start to fill up around 11-12 cause some of the clubs are starting to get strict on the number of girls allowed inside. Unless of course the chica is giving it up to security, then she can come and go as she pleases.
Cartagena has the variety that Medellin doesn't have. You have white, black, skinny, thick, fat, BBLs, fake tits, ugly, pretty. Girls come from other cities cause they make better money in Cartagena but they bring that variety that some of us just love. Shoot, I changed my type several times in Cartagena cause I want to see what something outside my norm is like.
HumpyDumpty11
12-20-23, 21:17
Crazy how these dudes still think they're in Sosua.
https://youtube.com/shorts/0I2qgHXG40Q?si=JsV6-x1Flh_nnU5yWhen I saw that video I laughed my ass off! I know that exact room they were in. The security guard told me it was a dumb situation on both sides. Dudes tried to undercut the girl cause he said her sex was wack and the girl tried to raise the price on him. The cops were called and he paid up.
PerkinWarbeck
12-21-23, 19:52
It all depends how you monger. So people like the simple pick up your phone and find a girl, through Tinder or prepagos. And then there are those who like the thrill of the hunt. Those who like to see what they are getting before they purchase. Those who like to change their mind last minute cause they saw something better.
Cartagena is great for mongering. You need to experience for yourself and make that determination. It all depends on how you move.I live in Cartagena. I don't monger much at all anymore because it's easier to date. Going to Barranquilla or Medellin is much easier and cheaper.
I could not get my gal to accompany me there. She complained about the smells, the crime, the heat, and she had not been. I had friends who came and said that Bazurto had some of the best food they had in Cartagena while on a guided tour but I did not have time to go with them. I joked with my gal that the market was actually a fantasy and did not exist.
Finally, a friend of my gal said she and her husband would show us around. We piled into their car and went in. Okay, yeah, it smelled like fish guts, and the entire market was surrounded by birds looking for a free handout, but I had been to worse open markets. One of the stalls had an area that had air conditioned seating. We got a large crab, coconut rice with shrimp, some tasty dish made with fish, and bananas with a red syrup for desert. There were five of us, and this plate of food along with a choice of beer and sodas, all of which we did not finish, was $4 or less than $20 total for everyone. In contrast, I went to the snobby restaurant Cande for appetizers and cocktails a few days before this and paid like $60 for three of us, and this food IMO was better and more plentiful.
I saw Anthony Bourdain go to this market and always wanted to. I did not mean to get the turtle as he did, but someone in our group got some and I tried it, tough but edible.
One of the gripes I heard about the market was that it sold a bunch of cheap shit, and it did. If you are a local getting by on next to nothing, this is where you would shop. If you want upscale, you go to the malls.
I did not feel unsafe at all. The only weird part is when I was full, I mentioned lobster, langosta, to my gal. It was then I had these hard edged black women, the women I know who are the best cooks in real life in the world, grab me and say, "Yo tengo langosta. " I have lobster. I thought it was more out of pride in wanting to share with me their cooking than anything else. It was the only time I came close to feeling anything unsafe.
I remember going to a restaurant in Key Largo Florida that had all the stone crabs you could eat. I always felt before that night that I never had enough crab. I always wanted more. That night after twenty or so crabs, I was finally satiated. I think the same of lobster. It would be nice to just go there and eat like ten or so lobsters just to get that desire of having more out of your system. I saw a couple from Japan in Mancora Peru buy a freshly caught Tuna and eat the whole damned thing on the dock. It sounds like they wanted that never getting enough tuna out of their system too.
I am getting to the point where I am getting a list of places that I have to eat every time I come here. I have Pizza at Verona restaurant. I have to go to Serrezuela food court and get the lomo at the Bistro in the food court (way better than Andres IMO). If you go to the Serrezuela court, and you are crazy is you do not, on your left from Bistro, there is a place called Tobu which IMO has the best Sushi in town. Then to your right, there is a place called Coralito the best ceviche I have ever had. Right next to Coralito is a bar which makes Cartagena mojitos which are the best drink I have had here. Away from Serrezeula, I have also had good burgers at Distrito Burger bar and Vagabundo, more expensive but much better than El Corral my previous best here.
Bourdain went to the Cevichera in the walled city when he was here. He also went to the island of Tierra Bomba for the fresh fish and lobster, and he went to Bazurto to see what the locals had. After going he said that he did not understand why Colombia was not more popular, the food is good, and the people are friendly. I shook my head at the "the food is good" comment.
Thing is I do think the upscale restaurants outside of the food court in Serrezeula have been disappointing. I do want to try the rabbit at Cande but outside of that and having cocktails at ALQUMICO and trying more dishes at Barzuto, I think I am done venturing out to "the best places" to eat and drink in Cartagena. I am happy with my circle of places now.
And yes, I cannot believe I am saying this, but I do now actually like and look forward to the food in Cartagena. If anyone tells my gal this, I will deny it. LOL. But some of the food here is really, really good.Thanks! Will be there for a quick visit from SFL this week. Definitely will go to Serrezuela, and would like to see the market. My first and only visit was in June, and it was so hot I didn't have much appetite. I thought the street food was excellent and I could probably be very happy eating sausages and empanadas for a few days. I had a very good meal at Restaurante Chef Julian in Bocagrande, and an expensive but mediocre lobster with a chica somewhere in centro. I would go back to Chef Julian, but prices are lower than but close to US level.
Thanks for the helpful tips.
Heading down Wed. And the Airbnb I wanted was booked. Last time I ended up in a hotel with a strict guest policy and I don't want to make the same mistake twice. Found this and hope it helps those who are looking:
https://gextremetravel.com/guest-friendly-hotels-cartagena/
Here on my last of 2. 5 days here. First time. Nabbed a cheap flight and used the rare free time I have. I do like some luxury when budgeted but this rushed trip I chose to keep it simple as I'm here for mongering.
Lodging: Airbnbs are tough to find that are girl friendly. I found 1-2 out of 100 searches in the Centro area. Maybe booking out further helps. I stayed at Ethnic Thematic. Budget hotel with in 1-3 blocks of rhe clubs and clocktower. Buzz in with your card. Never had to check a guest in, but there are cameras and a person at the desk (though my room was before that desk and they're not there all night). The room was a single, like a festive concrete dorm room but for $50 ish a night it worked fine. SoyLocal is another I heard is friendly but unsure if they charge fees.
Clock tower: girls pepper in around 9 pm through 4 AM stragglers. Some club girls too before the clubs open. Plenty of low and mids, maybe a couple 8's that were pure street. I didn't approach any.
Playa Hollywood: Hoofed it to Kiosk 4, I believe that's the main cluster. Again several mids, but a few 8's or rare 9's but were snatched up. I was there 4 pm and it was active when I left at 530. I believe the girls come around 2 pm.
Clubs.
Imperio: Was dead on my only visit at midnight. Girls were younger, slimmer, all natural. Mix of colors mid tier talent mostly.
Delirium: I went early like 10 pm so I was 3 guys there and the girls were all staring from booths. The dynamic thru me off, especially since my Spanish is week. Linked up with a hot 8-8. 5 Vennie, light brown, nice fake tits. She accepted 300 K on the spot, wish I just said 250 K. Saw her again next night for 250 K.
Space: I barely spent time there, but I like that it's cozy. I missed out on this white spinner who looked Nordic. Seems younger crowd.
Dolce Vita: My favorite. Smaller than I thought. Best talent to me by far. I'd say 75% of the roster was at least an 8 in some way. Ended up taking another Vennie with IG model looks, like Lacey Chaber, all natural too. 400 K, got her down from 150 usd. I'm sure I could've gotten better rates if my Spanish was better, but from other club guys I met they were doing $150 thinking it was normal so I'm happy enough I got 70-100 under the circumstances.
My final day, trying to link up a Tinder girl but she's 2 hrs late and hasn't updated me. I'll likely try for 1 of the vennies during the day and hope to luck out with tonight in the clubs.
Crazy how these dudes still think they're in Sosua.
https://youtube.com/shorts/0I2qgHXG40Q?si=JsV6-x1Flh_nnU5yMan, I have read all these threads about the make it rain bros, etc. , but this actually surprised me. I mean, how stupid, disrespectful, and obnoxious can you be? This behavior would risk your safety anywhere in the world.
My only point is that this kind of thing has nothing to do with anything I might experience in Cartagena or anywhere else. I don't worry about them ruining things for me or running up prices because the girls watch Youtube, too, and it will take them about five seconds to see the difference between me and them (even ignoring the large age difference). I may pay a gringo tax, but I won't have to pay an asshole tax. If anything I feel like it makes me more attractive as a customer, especially because I speak some Spanish.
Anyway, arriving Wed. And looking forward to a few days of pure pleasure. I posted a list of guest-friendly hotels below and booked at one of the nicer ones in Bocagrande on the beach. Will probably Whatsapp a few girls Tues. Off Mileroticos. Would love a temporary GF deal for a couple of days, but I kind of want a night in Centro. Will definitely report.
YounGun3393
12-29-23, 03:32
So I know of the beach, clock tower girls, and the clubs like delirium etc which seem to be nightclub vibes. I also know there is tinder SA mileroticos as well. Are there brothels or 'casas' like La isla in MDE. Also wondering if anyone has alternatives to mileroticos. Anything helps.
Tia.
Cartagena is on my list of next places to visit, having been to Cali, Medellin 2 x and Bogota 2 x in the past 12 months.
Is it good for a short trip; I. E. Long weekend? Or better for 5-6 days?
Your synopsis below was helpful, but curious as to your final verdict now that you've had time to reflect.
Nomars.
Here on my last of 2. 5 days here. First time. Nabbed a cheap flight and used the rare free time I have. I do like some luxury when budgeted but this rushed trip I chose to keep it simple as I'm here for mongering.
Lodging: Airbnbs are tough to find that are girl friendly. I found 1-2 out of 100 searches in the Centro area. Maybe booking out further helps. I stayed at Ethnic Thematic. Budget hotel with in 1-3 blocks of rhe clubs and clocktower. Buzz in with your card. Never had to check a guest in, but there are cameras and a person at the desk (though my room was before that desk and they're not there all night). The room was a single, like a festive concrete dorm room but for $50 ish a night it worked fine. SoyLocal is another I heard is friendly but unsure if they charge fees.
Clock tower: girls pepper in around 9 pm through 4 AM stragglers. Some club girls too before the clubs open. Plenty of low and mids, maybe a couple 8's that were pure street. I didn't approach any.
Playa Hollywood: Hoofed it to Kiosk 4, I believe that's the main cluster. Again several mids, but a few 8's or rare 9's but were snatched up. I was there 4 pm and it was active when I left at 530. I believe the girls come around 2 pm.
Clubs.
Imperio: Was dead on my only visit at midnight. Girls were younger, slimmer, all natural. Mix of colors mid tier talent mostly.
Delirium: I went early like 10 pm so I was 3 guys there and the girls were all staring from booths. The dynamic thru me off, especially since my Spanish is week. Linked up with a hot 8-8. 5 Vennie, light brown, nice fake tits. She accepted 300 K on the spot, wish I just said 250 K. Saw her again next night for 250 K.
Space: I barely spent time there, but I like that it's cozy. I missed out on this white spinner who looked Nordic. Seems younger crowd.
Dolce Vita: My favorite. Smaller than I thought. Best talent to me by far. I'd say 75% of the roster was at least an 8 in some way. Ended up taking another Vennie with IG model looks, like Lacey Chaber, all natural too. 400 K, got her down from 150 usd. I'm sure I could've gotten better rates if my Spanish was better, but from other club guys I met they were doing $150 thinking it was normal so I'm happy enough I got 70-100 under the circumstances.
My final day, trying to link up a Tinder girl but she's 2 hrs late and hasn't updated me. I'll likely try for 1 of the vennies during the day and hope to luck out with tonight in the clubs.
HumpyDumpty11
12-29-23, 16:18
So I know of the beach, clock tower girls, and the clubs like delirium etc which seem to be nightclub vibes. I also know there is tinder SA mileroticos as well. Are there brothels or 'casas' like La isla in MDE. Also wondering if anyone has alternatives to mileroticos. Anything helps.
Tia.I once heard a girl tell me of a casa that a lot of people go to but I can't remember the name. She said gringos go there a lot.
Regarding the sites, these are the alternate ones I heard about:
https://co.skokka.com/prepagos/cartagena/
https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/area-cartagena
HumpyDumpty11
12-29-23, 16:21
With the visa requirements to enter Brazil in 2024, I think guys will be looking for a fallback place to go to. I feel that Cartagena and DR will get the most visits. I can just hope the prices don't go higher with the influx of new gringos.
Mr Enternational
12-29-23, 20:32
With the visa requirements to enter Brazil in 2024, I think guys will be looking for a fallback place to go to. I feel that Cartagena and DR will get the most visits. I can just hope the prices don't go higher with the influx of new gringos.Not at all. You hardly see a foreign guy at the spots in Brazil. They are already in other places.
With the visa requirements to enter Brazil in 2024, I think guys will be looking for a fallback place to go to. I feel that Cartagena and DR will get the most visits. I can just hope the prices don't go higher with the influx of new gringos.I disagree. If you've been to Brazil you realize quickly that there really isn't a large number of American tourists there. Colombia can't be the fall back when guys weren't going to Brazil in large numbers to begin with especially when DR and Colombia are closer and cheaper to go to.
Heading down Wed. And the Airbnb I wanted was booked. Last time I ended up in a hotel with a strict guest policy and I don't want to make the same mistake twice. Found this and hope it helps those who are looking:
https://gextremetravel.com/guest-friendly-hotels-cartagena/You can take Almirante off the list of visitor-friendly hotels. No bracelets like a few of the others but the first night when I brought a girl back they made her register as my "second guest".
As far as the trip goes, checked out two mileroticos girls in advance. One wanted $200 USD per hour; the other quoted 200 K COP per hour. They were both in the same building in Torices, which seems to be hooker central. The 200 K girl was not the girl in the ad, and did not provide the services in the ad (I. E. Anal), but she was beautiful and sucked and fucked well enough to make me happy. Nice building, clean apt. With minimal decor, and at least one other girl working there (not present). She works for a "company", which obviously provides the place. We talked a little, went out to dinner, and agreed on an overnight rate for my hotel of around $250-275 USD (million COP). Had to register her, but that wasn't a problem, we hade a good night, and since I couldn't bring another girl back, after breakfast in the morning we agreed to another 24 hrs. Beach, pool, room, a couple of nice meals, and in the morning she went home. Totally satisfactory for me. Last day I spent alone doing tourist stuff during the day in centro. I did go to the Bazurto market mentioned in an earlier tweet. Those unfamiliar with local markets in developing countries may find it a bit too "authentic".
The last night I went to the Clock Tower Pub to watch a bowl game and had the opportunity to see the area on a weekend night. Everything is lit up for the holidays and, hookers aside, it is a great time to visit. I'm old, my girl had me drained, and especially since I didn't have a place I really wasn't interested in picking anyone up. There were certainly girls available, some very good-looking, but overall the crowd seemed to be overwhelmingly civvie, even at midnight. I stopped into Space around 11:30 and it was half-empty. Maybe 20 girls, mostly average-looking, and fewer than 10 guys. The only really long line was for Quimico. I suspect a lot of girls may have gone home for new year's, or that LE tries to keep things clean for the holiday season, but the whole scene seemed a lot more "family-friendly" than I remembered from my first visit in June.
I have been practicing my Spanish with software, and it functional but less than fully conversational. I enjoyed having the opportunity to use it in restaurants, stores, Ubers, etc. , but after a while I found it really draining spending a couple of days with a girl who doesn't speak any English. If you aren't a Spanish speaker and you are thinking of coming down and finding a temporary GF, be sure you are really comfortable with Google Translate.
Finally, I have an Airbnb that permits visitors, but it wasn't available. I absolutely will not do another visit unless I know I have a place with a good bed and adequate facilities where I can bring a girl (or two) whenever I want.
Cartagena is on my list of next places to visit, having been to Cali, Medellin 2 x and Bogota 2 x in the past 12 months.
Is it good for a short trip; I. E. Long weekend? Or better for 5-6 days?
Your synopsis below was helpful, but curious as to your final verdict now that you've had time to reflect.
Nomars.Definitely worth a visit, especially if you're familiar with Colombia. I went on arguably the slowest weekend (closed Christmas eve) & the locals told me it was only 30-40% of the max girls, so the volume and quality will be better. I think 3 days is plenty to get enough. If you make trips to the islands, or Barranquilla or comfortable to explore more than 5 days max. 2 night time runs should be enough to have 7 or 8 girls on your roster to choose from during the day time.
Aparentemente street prostitution is now suspended in Cartagena in the historic center around the clock tower. I already knew Cartagena was garbage but now it's even more garbage than before LOL.
https://youtu.be/UVjozKqkmSw?si=e7vvPqpxI-tvKiMR
Follow Along.
FlyGuyEddie007
01-03-24, 02:37
New laws just kicked in today. You might want to check it out. I just saw it on YouTube. I'm going to post a link to the video. A lot of changes are happening. The chicas are pretty much out of game under these news laws
https://youtu.be/UVjozKqkmSw?si=XyK-4ezZWyFWCPSZ
https://www.eluniversal.com.co/cartagena/estos-son-los-establecimientos-cerrados-en-operativo-del-plan-titan-en-el-centro-HB9726876
The list of the establishments and the reason for closure above.
My opinion and of the sages: And this shall pass too.
With the visa requirements to enter Brazil in 2024, I think guys will be looking for a fallback place to go to. I feel that Cartagena and DR will get the most visits. I can just hope the prices don't go higher with the influx of new gringos.As a frequent visitor to both, I'd say Medellin and Cartagena have at least 10 x the density of American tourists / mongers as Rio and 20 x that of Sau Paulo. It is not a fallback.
I disagree. If you've been to Brazil you realize quickly that there really isn't a large number of American tourists there. Colombia can't be the fall back when guys weren't going to Brazil in large numbers to begin with especially when DR and Colombia are closer and cheaper to go to.Agreed. It seems that after Help closed in 2009, a significant % of our community stopped going (even though it's still a great destination). And São Paulo has never had a lot of American tourists.
Well, from my last post when my chica warned me no to come for Christmas she was spot on with all the shit that happened in Medellin and Cartegena I was far away.
Told my chica ill be there is 2 weeks and she sends me these links and looks like the party is over for the loudmouths who like to walk around the clocktower looking for attention and go into those 3 main clubs and be extra loud for no reason. They one who know how to use the apps and be subtle of what they're doing will be unaffected. Me Personally I'm just popping in, picking up my chica and off to Santa Martha while trying not to get by them damn speed traps along the way. Personally ill give it 6 months and see if it goes back to regular but I guessing too many people were going missing in Cartegena and getting trafficked to Panama, placed on a cargo ship to somewhere and sold similar to how that plane full of Indians from Dubai heading to Nicaragua and I bet allot of them were going to disappear once they hit Juarez (all Venezuelan chicas I knew that came through Juarez tells me the craziest stories, its like a feeding frenzy for cops, cartel, robbers, other migrants).
A few of my chicas are super tight about this because they can't make extra money, but I know they will be ok on the Apps. So no more Space (for now) and she also told me Dolce Vita is also closed but the main problem we all know is Delirium, no word on that yet from her.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1m_nSVgsq1/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Fenced off the clocktower.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1k__PnAMpD/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Well, from my last post when my chica warned me no to come for Christmas she was spot on with all the shit that happened in Medellin and Cartegena I was far away.
Told my chica ill be there is 2 weeks and she sends me these links and looks like the party is over for the loudmouths who like to walk around the clocktower looking for attention and go into those 3 main clubs and be extra loud for no reason. They one who know how to use the apps and be subtle of what they're doing will be unaffected. Me Personally I'm just popping in, picking up my chica and off to Santa Martha while trying not to get by them damn speed traps along the way. Personally ill give it 6 months and see if it goes back to regular but I guessing too many people were going missing in Cartegena and getting trafficked to Panama, placed on a cargo ship to somewhere and sold similar to how that plane full of Indians from Dubai heading to Nicaragua and I bet allot of them were going to disappear once they hit Juarez (all Venezuelan chicas I knew that came through Juarez tells me the craziest stories, its like a feeding frenzy for cops, cartel, robbers, other migrants).
A few of my chicas are super tight about this because they can't make extra money, but I know they will be ok on the Apps. So no more Space (for now) and she also told me Dolce Vita is also closed but the main problem we all know is Delirium, no word on that yet from her.Your links don't work without having an Instagram account, it's just asking me to login and I'm not going to make an account just to see these two links. Why don't you upload screenshots instead?
Well, from my last post when my chica warned me no to come for Christmas she was spot on with all the shit that happened in Medellin and Cartegena I was far away.
Told my chica ill be there is 2 weeks and she sends me these links and looks like the party is over for the loudmouths who like to walk around the clocktower looking for attention and go into those 3 main clubs and be extra loud for no reason. They one who know how to use the apps and be subtle of what they're doing will be unaffected. Me Personally I'm just popping in, picking up my chica and off to Santa Martha while trying not to get by them damn speed traps along the way. Personally ill give it 6 months and see if it goes back to regular but I guessing too many people were going missing in Cartegena and getting trafficked to Panama, placed on a cargo ship to somewhere and sold similar to how that plane full of Indians from Dubai heading to Nicaragua and I bet allot of them were going to disappear once they hit Juarez (all Venezuelan chicas I knew that came through Juarez tells me the craziest stories, its like a feeding frenzy for cops, cartel, robbers, other migrants).
A few of my chicas are super tight about this because they can't make extra money, but I know they will be ok on the Apps. So no more Space (for now) and she also told me Dolce Vita is also closed but the main problem we all know is Delirium, no word on that yet from her.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1m_nSVgsq1/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Fenced off the clocktower.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1k__PnAMpD/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==They will go to other places or the places will move, this only affects centro historico, anyone remember the old dolce vita in El Laguito? Why they moved to centro?
Prices are now borderline ridiculous in Cartagena for an Airbnb / hotel. I don't know what happened, but everything is double or more compared to what I was paying even a year ago. I guess there's an influx of foreigners.
I could understand Miami. But Cartagena!? Still in Colombia, not worth it. There's too many other places in Colombia. I wouldn't spend more than a few days there now. But I imagine others will think like this too and prices will normalize eventually. Girls probably won't be able to charge as much now because there's too many that want the club experience and they might just be put off altogether.
Your links don't work without having an Instagram account, it's just asking me to login and I'm not going to make an account just to see these two links. Why don't you upload screenshots instead?Are you asking me to do extra work for your personal benefit? Jajaja.
Instagram links to Facebook, and it uses the same credentials. I did not post screenshots because just about everyone I know in this hobby has a fake facebook (meeting girls in Medellin) and a fake Instagram (Tinder / Hinge photo feed integration) to meet girls from dating apps.
But I found more / similar information on Minuto30 and El Colombio which does not require login.
https://www.minuto30.com/plan-titan24-para-recuperar-el-centro-historico-de-cartagena/1552337/
See bulletpoint 2.
https://m.elcolombiano.com/colombia/cartagena-implementara-plan-titan-24-para-recuperar-orden-de-centro-historico-DA23455006
They will go to other places or the places will move, this only affects centro historico, anyone remember the old dolce vita in El Laguito? Why they moved to centro?If the places move it will only move the certain type of Tourists dollars. Hopefully they don't move to El Bosque or in the hood somewhere.
Got info from another chica this morning. She said Dolce was open last night and the new Mayor just put up the signs of the clubs "closed until further notice" to take pictures. Propaganda I suppose. But I'll be there for MLK weekend and see for myself.
As for the clocktower fenced off.
HumpyDumpty11
01-03-24, 18:54
Well, from my last post when my chica warned me no to come for Christmas she was spot on with all the shit that happened in Medellin and Cartegena I was far away.
Told my chica ill be there is 2 weeks and she sends me these links and looks like the party is over for the loudmouths who like to walk around the clocktower looking for attention and go into those 3 main clubs and be extra loud for no reason. They one who know how to use the apps and be subtle of what they're doing will be unaffected. Me Personally I'm just popping in, picking up my chica and off to Santa Martha while trying not to get by them damn speed traps along the way. Personally ill give it 6 months and see if it goes back to regular but I guessing too many people were going missing in Cartegena and getting trafficked to Panama, placed on a cargo ship to somewhere and sold similar to how that plane full of Indians from Dubai heading to Nicaragua and I bet allot of them were going to disappear once they hit Juarez (all Venezuelan chicas I knew that came through Juarez tells me the craziest stories, its like a feeding frenzy for cops, cartel, robbers, other migrants).
A few of my chicas are super tight about this because they can't make extra money, but I know they will be ok on the Apps. So no more Space (for now) and she also told me Dolce Vita is also closed but the main problem we all know is Delirium, no word on that yet from her.This will never end prostitution in Cartagena period. Prostitution is a legal right. The only way to fully end prostitution is to change the country law and make it illegal. So one mayor's attempt to spark up the city and get his approval ratings up the first few weeks will fail. The girls will and still are walking around the center and just get picked when they are walking or standing still. All this is doing is stopping the girls from standing in the clock tower, nothing more. And because social media is picking up on it, it's sending the message worldwide to stop mongers from coming to Cartagena and that will work. Some will change their destinations.
As for the closing of Space, I think it's a political stunt of some kind. I heard that Delirium and Dolce Vita were open last night. So how do you close one club in the same building as another but leave one open? Seems a little fishy to me. Like maybe an owner forgot to grease some palms. One of 6 clubs was closed. The girls are already talking and moving to the other lesser known clubs and the guys will follow. The police are hanging around telling girls to just move along, no standing around the clubs. No problem. The girls go inside or to another club. The girls that will mostly be affected by these measures are the girls with no proper ID. They will be too scared to come to the center. But the girls with proper ID will still come cause they are not doing anything illegal. Girls will not carry drugs on them anymore cause they might get stopped just for annoyance and searched.
All this reminds me of Sosua before covid when a new mayor that came in shutdown the clubs and bars. It lasted like one week or two and everything was back to normal. The local businesses protested too cause they were affected with no mongers spending money.
And this isn't the first time Cartagena has done something like this. It seems every year around the holidays there's this heavy police presence cause tourist come to se the decorations and Cartagena and shit. Once schools open back up and tourist families can't travel to Cartagena as much, and the decorations are removed, things go back to normal.
Will things slow down, yeah, a little as girls reposition to another location. Will clubs stay closed for good? Hell no. The money that flows into the club and money that is laundered through the club will need to continue. There are big powers at play there. Not saying the city needs monger money but someone else might need that money for other things. Wink if you understand me.
Just are just my thoughts and speculations. But I seriously doubt a mayor will eradicate prostitution in his 4 yr stint in the office. The bad part about all this is that all those extra police in the center could be useful in other main parts of the city to make the locals more safer. But the locals don't see it like that. In some IG posts they are all happy and want the center back to it's beautiful self. But the minute a killing happens in their neighborhood, the first thing out their mouths are where are the police when you need them.
Prices are now borderline ridiculous in Cartagena for an Airbnb / hotel. I don't know what happened, but everything is double or more compared to what I was paying even a year ago. I guess there's an influx of foreigners.
I could understand Miami. But Cartagena!? Still in Colombia, not worth it. There's too many other places in Colombia. I wouldn't spend more than a few days there now. But I imagine others will think like this too and prices will normalize eventually. Girls probably won't be able to charge as much now because there's too many that want the club experience and they might just be put off altogether.I've reported on this many times when I post my experiences in CTG but it's always nice to see other go through something similar.
Boat prices are up.
Drink prices are up.
Chica prices are up.
AirBB prices are up.
And this is during the slow season.
Mr Enternational
01-03-24, 20:30
Prices are now borderline ridiculous in Cartagena for an Airbnb / hotel. I don't know what happened, but everything is double or more compared to what I was paying even a year ago. I wouldn't spend more than a few days there now. But I imagine others will think like this too and prices will normalize eventually.What do you consider normal? To me the prices in Cartagena have always been ridiculous compared to the rest of Colombia.
Mr Enternational
01-03-24, 20:37
This will never end prostitution in Cartagena period. Prostitution is a legal right.I do not think they are trying to end prostitution, but trying to end in-your-face prostitution. Legal has nothing to do with it. It can be legal to drink, but not legal to drink in the open on the street. Same thing. Maybe you were not around Rio in the Help days. But when they closed that club, away went all the "hang-out" type mongers. Sure prostitution is still legal in Rio, but it is not the type of prostitution that most foreigner vacation guys would go there for.
HumpyDumpty11
01-03-24, 20:55
I've reported on this many times when I post my experiences in CTG but it's always nice to see other go through something similar.
Boat prices are up.
Drink prices are up.
Chica prices are up.
AirBB prices are up.
And this is during the slow season.I think, not sure, but I think with this new mayor and his measures and closing clubs down, Chica prices might drop. Or I should say those who negotiate can probably get those chica back down to before covid prices of 200 -250 pesos. And if you're good that price could be for 2-4 hours and maybe even overnight. YMMV.
With girls having to walk around now, in the heat I might add, they are willing to accept far less than what they were quoting in the clubs. Cause now they outside with the girls that already accept less, so competition is bound to happen. Some will shoot their shoot at $200 USD and someone will bite. Just try to negotiate if you can.
Along with that, mongers will also be out in the streets more. So have your head on a swivel. No need for jewelry or fancy watches and for that matter, fancy name-brand close. Walmart t-shirts work just fine. LOL. If more clubs close, that means less money probably for the girls and less to go around to the novios they have at home. People might start to get desperate when faced with hunger at home. So just be careful.
If the places move it will only move the certain type of Tourists dollars. Hopefully they don't move to El Bosque or in the hood somewhere.
Got info from another chica this morning. She said Dolce was open last night and the new Mayor just put up the signs of the clubs "closed until further notice" to take pictures. Propaganda I suppose. But I'll be there for MLK weekend and see for myself.
As for the clocktower fenced off.Exactly, I got legit info that Space and LDV operating normal.
And this isn't the first time Cartagena has done something like this. It seems every year around the holidays there's this heavy police presence cause tourist come to se the decorations and Cartagena and shit. Once schools open back up and tourist families can't travel to Cartagena as much, and the decorations are removed, things go back to normal.
Will things slow down, yeah, a little as girls reposition to another location. Will clubs stay closed for good? Hell no. The money that flows into the club and money that is laundered through the club will need to continue. There are big powers at play there. Not saying the city needs monger money but someone else might need that money for other things. Wink if you understand me.
Just are just my thoughts and speculations. But I seriously doubt a mayor will eradicate prostitution in his 4 yr stint in the office. The bad part about all this is that all those extra police in the center could be useful in other main parts of the city to make the locals more safer. But the locals don't see it like that. In some IG posts they are all happy and want the center back to it's beautiful self. But the minute a killing happens in their neighborhood, the first thing out their mouths are where are the police when you need them.Lot of cruise ships are there also, its the carribean cruise season, but they are normally around just during the daytime.
Not a big thing like Pattaya I guess but, yeah its important.
PerkinWarbeck
01-03-24, 21:42
Locals have been complaining about the open sex trade for years, and Dumek is listening to them. It's an easy way to score political points, while not affecting that many people. The local sex trade is very private and it's much bigger than what tourists see. It's ok because it isn't in the nicest part of the city and can be ignored. I'm in private telegram groups with hundreds of men and working girls. Girls that you would never see downtown because it would embarrass their family if someone were to catch them. That's the real trade. What we do is nothing in the grand scheme of things.
The girls may move into Bocagrande if they need somewhere to stand or further into walled city. Just away from Cartagena's crown jewel.
HumpyDumpty11
01-03-24, 22:51
Exactly, I got legit info that Space and LDV operating normal.I heard that Space and LDV are both closed last night as was Imperio. Delirium was open. Not sure about VSOP. But someone I know is going to walk the walk tonight and let me know everything.
HumpyDumpty11
01-03-24, 22:53
Locals have been complaining about the open sex trade for years, and Dumek is listening to them. It's an easy way to score political points, while not affecting that many people. The local sex trade is very private and it's much bigger than what tourists see. It's ok because it isn't in the nicest part of the city and can be ignored. I'm in private telegram groups with hundreds of men and working girls. Girls that you would never see downtown because it would embarrass their family if someone were to catch them. That's the real trade. What we do is nothing in the grand scheme of things.
The girls may move into Bocagrande if they need somewhere to stand or further into walled city. Just away from Cartagena's crown jewel.I wonder what the owners of the nice condos will say if everything moves to Bocogrande? I guess clubs will have to move as well, eventually. Maybe the mayor might buy each club a new spot in Bocogrande.
Maybe now that street prostitution is illegal in Cartagena maybe all the clock tower girls will come to Medellin now.
Are you asking me to do extra work for your personal benefit? Jajaja.
Instagram links to Facebook, and it uses the same credentials. I did not post screenshots because just about everyone I know in this hobby has a fake facebook (meeting girls in Medellin) and a fake Instagram (Tinder / Hinge photo feed integration) to meet girls from dating apps.
But I found more / similar information on Minuto30 and El Colombio which does not require login.
https://www.minuto30.com/plan-titan24-para-recuperar-el-centro-historico-de-cartagena/1552337/
See bulletpoint 2.
https://m.elcolombiano.com/colombia/cartagena-implementara-plan-titan-24-para-recuperar-orden-de-centro-historico-DA23455006Thank you bro, I do have Facebook but I don't have it linked to Instagram nor do I want to link it. Anyways it sounds like this new alcade of Cartagena must be a liberal leftist like the douchebag Daniel Quintero that Medellin just got rid of. Sounds like Cartagena is moving backwards and Medellin is moving forwards.
Hope you guys enjoy the barriers we sent you, they'll be arriving via servientrega within the next few days and this Tumak Durbay prick will have to pay the delivery fees by raising taxes and fees, great job LOL.
ElSexoChino7
01-04-24, 01:47
Maybe now that street prostitution is illegal in Cartagena maybe all the clock tower girls will come to Medellin now.Some of the girls will probably go to Medellin, but some will go online for now. At least, they won't be able to bring Cartagena prices to Medellin LOL. Since it's street illegal now in Cartagena, they know Medellin will be the next move.
HumpyDumpty11
01-04-24, 05:54
Maybe now that street prostitution is illegal in Cartagena maybe all the clock tower girls will come to Medellin now.Fellas, choose your words carefully cause it's going to start to spread fear. Street prostitution is not illegal. If it was illegal in Cartagena, it would have to be illegal in the whole country. Rather, The mayor is trying to force it out of the center (downtown), or the words they used "suppress" it in the center.
I just heard from girls on the street that all clubs in El Centro are closed. Girls are walking the streets but it's a normal slow Wed night and the aren't many guys around, so the girls are going home. Girls are starting to get worried now cause they don't know when they going to eat again. Looks like they are going to have to lower their prices to start to attract the mongers back to the Cartagena.
If chicas prepagos keeping low profile, having ID and everything, how will they stop them from going into centro historico? Of course Rappers and vendors can be stopped when they are carrying stuff.
Thank you bro, I do have Facebook but I don't have it linked to Instagram nor do I want to link it. Anyways it sounds like this new alcade of Cartagena must be a liberal leftist like the douchebag Daniel Quintero that Medellin just got rid of. Sounds like Cartagena is moving backwards and Medellin is moving forwards.
Hope you guys enjoy the barriers we sent you, they'll be arriving via servientrega within the next few days and this Tumak Durbay prick will have to pay the delivery fees by raising taxes and fees, great job LOL.That fucked up and funny at the same time jajaja. I forgot that they had the barriers up at Plaza Botero in Medellin and it didn't work there so I don't know why this new mayor think its going to work at the Clock Tower jaja.
I wonder what the owners of the nice condos will say if everything moves to Bocogrande? I guess clubs will have to move as well, eventually. Maybe the mayor might buy each club a new spot in Bocogrande.The street walkers are already in Boca Grande and El Laguito, normally in groups of 2's and 3's not in mass like clocktower.
It won't be much of a big deal as there are other places in Centro the girls are. They are just targeting the 3 main clubs.
Clocktown Pub, VSOP, Imperio, Bronx Afro house, El Portal, El Mirordor, are still places to find the girls. Atlanta Hookar Bar And Osais Rooftop are last resort options as well but hardly anyone goes there.
I've also met girls at Plaza de la Trinidad in Getsemani, Butterfly Street and Umbrella Street due to there are some sweet ass AirBB in that area. The doors look like some abandoned building but once you step inside its night and day. Stayed in Casa Mango, Lemon, Pineapple, all was nice.
If this was not a publicity stunt just for pictures and the three main clubs do close until further notice, based on the same type of music that attracts the same type of crowd:
The Delurium crowd will go to VSOP and El Portal.
The Dolce crowd will go to El Mirodor and Clock Town Pub.
The Space crowd will go to Imperio and Bronx Afro House.
Mr Enternational
01-04-24, 13:20
If chicas prepagos keeping low profile, having ID and everything, how will they stop them from going into centro historico? Of course Rappers and vendors can be stopped when they are carrying stuff.Because they do not keep a low profile. They are loitering (standing around without a purpose) and looking like hookers. Maybe you are not there all the time, but if the same cops are, then they see the same chicks standing around the same places for hours every night dressed like hookers. It is not hard to figure. I think the charge is more so loitering than prostitution though.
PerkinWarbeck
01-04-24, 13:22
If chicas prepagos keeping low profile, having ID and everything, how will they stop them from going into centro historico? Of course Rappers and vendors can be stopped when they are carrying stuff.The chicas are typically dressed very immodestly which is a dead giveaway. Also, in regular times, the girls would openly discuss sex for money in the presence of Colombian police. Just cracking down on these two things will reduce the ladies there.
PerkinWarbeck
01-04-24, 13:23
I wonder what the owners of the nice condos will say if everything moves to Bocogrande? I guess clubs will have to move as well, eventually. Maybe the mayor might buy each club a new spot in Bocogrande.Most of those condos don't allow girls anyway. There are still a lot of budget hotels that the girls rent for incalls. That may become an even bigger thing if the owners are smart to take advantage.
What do you consider normal? To me the prices in Cartagena have always been ridiculous compared to the rest of Colombia.You've got to remember though that Cartagena is basically like the Cancun of Colombia. Just like everything in Cancun is more expensive than the rest of Mexico, the same is true of Cartagena with respect to the rest of Colombia. It's a big beach front tourist trap set up to rip off gringos for every peso they can get whether that be at over priced hotels in boca grande (Cartagena's version of Cancun's Zona Hotelera) or 20 mil bottles of water or beer on the beach, or street girls charging 250 mil for a 40 mil fuck.
And I believe at one time Cancun had a street prostitution zone similar to Zona Norte in Tijuana or la Merced in CDMX but the government there shut it down to appear to be a more family oriented tourist trap, and then all the prostitution moved online. Sounds like Cartagena is doing the exact same thing now.
These tourist beach cities should be avoided like the plague, they have high concentrations of English speaking tourists acting stupid, high prices on anything and everything, aggressive taxi drivers manipulating their prices, higher crime rates targeting gringo foreigners, and they do not offer the real experience of their respective countries.
If you want to experience real Mexico go to Guanajuato or Puebla, not fucking Cancun, and if you want to experience real Colombia go to Villavicencio or Ibague. If you want to get ripped of and pestered by aggressive venders while surrounded by a bunch of other English speaking gringo sheep then by all means go to Cartagena and Cancun.
What do you consider normal? To me the prices in Cartagena have always been ridiculous compared to the rest of Colombia.I was able to find a week stay at an Airbnb in a decent location and usually with hot water for around $300. Don't see that anymore. Monthly stays I was seeing around $700, not seeing that anymore either. I guess if you're just staying a few days it's not ridiculously higher. But the pricing of houses / condos / apartments has shot up in general.
You've got to remember though that Cartagena is basically like the Cancun of Colombia. Just like everything in Cancun is more expensive than the rest of Mexico, the same is true of Cartagena with respect to the rest of Colombia. It's a big beach front tourist trap set up to rip off gringos for every peso they can get whether that be at over priced hotels in boca grande (Cartagena's version of Cancun's Zona Hotelera) or 20 mil bottles of water or beer on the beach, or street girls charging 250 mil for a 40 mil fuck.
And I believe at one time Cancun had a street prostitution zone similar to Zona Norte in Tijuana or la Merced in CDMX but the government there shut it down to appear to be a more family oriented tourist trap, and then all the prostitution moved online. Sounds like Cartagena is doing the exact same thing now.
These tourist beach cities should be avoided like the plague, they have high concentrations of English speaking tourists acting stupid, high prices on anything and everything, aggressive taxi drivers manipulating their prices, higher crime rates targeting gringo foreigners, and they do not offer the real experience of their respective countries.
If you want to experience real Mexico go to Guanajuato or Puebla, not fucking Cancun, and if you want to experience real Colombia go to Villavicencio or Ibague. If you want to get ripped of and pestered by aggressive venders while surrounded by a bunch of other English speaking gringo sheep then by all means go to Cartagena and Cancun.Real bummer, I just went my 1st time ever 2 weeks ago and loved it. Two of my Dolce girls have stopped texting back, both Venezuelans. I liked how relatively safe Centro is and so close to Dolce Vita. For now I think will have to see how the next 2 months, 2 months of rent squeeze out old or bring in new girls. As well as if the talent quality will suffer, I never liked the true street girls so if there's no high volume Dolce / Space then Cartagena is off my list a while. Medellins already so pricy, and Bogota is cheaper but SF is more dangerous.
Hopefully we get field reports in the next few weeks.
Prelude141
01-04-24, 22:21
Fellas, choose your words carefully cause it's going to start to spread fear. Street prostitution is not illegal. If it was illegal in Cartagena, it would have to be illegal in the whole country. Rather, The mayor is trying to force it out of the center (downtown), or the words they used "suppress" it in the center.
I just heard from girls on the street that all clubs in El Centro are closed. Girls are walking the streets but it's a normal slow Wed night and the aren't many guys around, so the girls are going home. Girls are starting to get worried now cause they don't know when they going to eat again. Looks like they are going to have to lower their prices to start to attract the mongers back to the Cartagena.The words he used are correct. It can be illegal there but not in the rest of the country. Same for drugs substances as said in the press article.
Suspensióand de la prostitucióand why venta de servicios sexuales: se suspende el ejercicio de la prostitucióand why la venta why / o promocióand de servicios sexuales en el Centro Histórico, con restricciones adicionales para la promocióand de actividades sexuales en la zona.
It's a very clever move and even if I did enjoy in the past mongering in Cartagena, the US tourists have completely fucked up the market, paying far too much. I now hope girls will all move to Medellin. Medellin is a rip off as well so mongers will carry on being ripped off.
PerkinWarbeck
01-06-24, 12:19
The governor of Bolivar is in on the act now. I've never seen Centro so organized as I did last night.
Just a quick update.
Form what I've gathered from my chicas as they went to Centro Thursday and Friday night, it appears that the clubs are open in Centro but girls aren't allowed inside the clubs unless they are with a man and Police aren't allowing girls to walk around in groups or stand around looking like hookers.
So its basically the same shit they do every Christmas season when they try to keep the girls who are working away from the decorated tourist areas, but if those same girls are out with their family its not a problem.
Just a quick update.
Form what I've gathered from my chicas as they went to Centro Thursday and Friday night, it appears that the clubs are open in Centro but girls aren't allowed inside the clubs unless they are with a man and Police aren't allowing girls to walk around in groups or stand around looking like hookers.
So its basically the same shit they do every Christmas season when they try to keep the girls who are working away from the decorated tourist areas, but if those same girls are out with their family its not a problem.Thanks for the update, any action in getsemani? Heard about bar etico.
This is my report of stays in Cartagena, by the way I am still here.
After last few years in Brazil I thought I would try something different this year, so I decided to come to Columbia. Usually I stay 2-3 months a year and I'm from EU.
I spent the first 10 days in Santa Marta, nice town, beautiful surroundings and that's all, there's not much to do for the rest, a few girls are sitting around the parq del los Novios, and I went to Banana club once. I didn't like this one, and also the Dubai club once, which is always almost empty, there are about 10 girls in it. I scored 2 girls during my stay in SM.
I arrived in Cartagena around December 25 and went around 10 am. The center, there were girls everywhere, around the clock, surrounding streets. I then went to Dolce Vita for the first time, it was busy, lots of girls, I thought it was great, I thought the drinks were expensive, Jack Daniels-cola 50,000 pesos, by the way that's everywhere the price in Centro. I then went to Space, which was also full, but I thought it was too small and too dark inside. So for me the first day in Cartagena was great, lots of girls, also many exit opportunities, and I thought this is nice to stay for a few weeks.
I was in my apartment in Bocogrande, so the next day I went to the beach to Hollywood beach. I got there around 1:00 PM, so had a drink and something to eat and then around 3:00 PM a lot of people arrived. Working girls, also a few that I have seen in the city. I always sat around Caliwood bar, always enjoy it there and still do. Every day around 50 working girls come there.
Next days I also went to Imperium, there are a few girls but fairly empty. Also went to Dilerium, which is full, lots of black American boys and American Rap music, which I didn't like as much. Also went to Rooftop, there is also a bit of local and working mixed. The prices that girls ask are 300,000 but some girls asking more.
Until New Year I found it all interesting. On January 1, I came to Toren, everything had been converted with fences, a lot of police on the street and very few girls on the street. Days after that, all the above mentioned people left. Bars closed Dolce, Space, Imperium, Delerium and they are still closed. This days you have girls on the streets, no longer around the Clock but those streets around Dilerium. But I still find something different than before, there is a different atmosphere in the city.
Cartagena is a beautiful old city, very expensive, many pushy sellers, crazy taxi drivers and Cartagena can also feel unsafe sometimes, and use Uber and don't take taxis just like that. I found other countries in Latin America more safer than here. Am thinking of moving to Medellin. My first experience in Cartagena.
2 chicas sent this to me today.
Looks like they are going all in to turn Cartegena into a a more family place but they forgot to put them in the areas where the biggest scams happen Playa Blanca and Playa Hollywood.
https://www.facebook.com/100069378062402/posts/675603671428896/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v
HumpyDumpty11
01-08-24, 20:44
Just a quick update.
Form what I've gathered from my chicas as they went to Centro Thursday and Friday night, it appears that the clubs are open in Centro but girls aren't allowed inside the clubs unless they are with a man and Police aren't allowing girls to walk around in groups or stand around looking like hookers.
This is exactly what I'm hearing from chicas. They walk and they walk and they walk around hoping to catch someone. They say they will be more aggressive now to find a guy. And a lot of girls are saying they will take less than before because it's every girl for themselves now. Oh, they hit most of the clubs with violations cause they didn't have an emergency exit. Guess that didn't last cause they found a work around by not letting the chicas in without a chaperone. Ain't no guy going to grab a SW and take her into the club to buy beers or bottles. He going to take her right to the apartment.
So its basically the same shit they do every Christmas season when they try to keep the girls who are working away from the decorated tourist areas, but if those same girls are out with their family its not a problem.This is what I've been telling people. They do this same shit every year cause people are traveling to see the decorations and they don't want the chicas around. When the decorations come down, things go back to normal. But I don't know now, that was with the last mayor of 4 years. This new one seems to sticking to his policy.
A chica told me today that they are throwing tear gas at the chicas now. I don't know if it's actually tear gas grenades or maybe pepper spray, but I believe pepper spray would be a better description. I can just imagine embassy reports that police are hitting americans with pepper spray, even though it might be accidental or on purpose.
HumpyDumpty11
01-08-24, 21:03
I also think the heavy hand happening in cartagena is in response to the last black guy that got killed in Cartagena, not too far from El Centro. That got a lot of bad publicity for the city. Maybe the mayor and governor are looking to these new things as a way to reassure tourist that Cartagena is safe and a wonderful city. Also to combat the youtube videos when you type Cartagena, a lot of videos about the prostitution popup as suggestions: cartagena nightlife, women, bachelor party, etc.
Thanks for the update, any action in getsemani? Heard about bar etico.https://www.instagram.com/p/C1wyS_fgh2B/
This is the only thing I got from the chicas about Getsemeni.
It was a hostel that many of them stayed at when they went to Cartegena to work.
Small world, I normally use the Cambrio next to Bar Etico to change out my dollars as one of my chicas is part of a group so they give her a higher rate.
I been there so many times to change out so now they give me the higher rate.
The words he used are correct. It can be illegal there but not in the rest of the country. Same for drugs substances as said in the press article.
Suspensiand de la prostituciand why venta de servicios sexuales: se suspende el ejercicio de la prostituciand why la venta why / o promociand de servicios sexuales en el Centro Histrico, con restricciones adicionales para la promociand de actividades sexuales en la zona.
It's a very clever move and even if I did enjoy in the past mongering in Cartagena, the US tourists have completely fucked up the market, paying far too much. I now hope girls will all move to Medellin. Medellin is a rip off as well so mongers will carry on being ripped off.Medellin is only a ripoff in El Poblado. If you go to centro to monger you can still fuck many girls for 40 mil plus the room fee (9 mil). Many hot vennies and paisa chicas can be found if you put in the effort to find them.
What gets me is many of the girls that work parque lleras in Poblado in the evening are the same ones that work Centro in the day time or they have worked Centro in the past like in 2021 or 2022 then they switched up to Poblado and started charging way more.
I'll never forget there was this Chica Andreina I fucked her for 40 mil in the 2021 then later she went to Cartagena clock tower and came back and was working in El Poblado and somehow I got back in contact with her and she and her friends were all trying to tell me they wanted 200 mil to fuck now and I'm like "wtf bytch I fucked you 2 years ago for 40 mil" and she was "eso fue antes. ".
I imagine the stupid 'making it rain' motherfuxkers in Poblado and Cartagena were overpaying her and thus corrupted her and made her think she could charge more. Well needless to say I'm just on to the next one so I told her to fuck off anyways LOL.
You guys can pay her 200 mil or 250 mil or whatever, I fucked her when she was 19 years old and I paid 40 mil, now she is older and with way more milage and charging 5 times more and some of you guys are actually paying that and thinking that it's a bargain LOL. SMH.
I understand the overall message you're saying as I've been in the boat myself where my 200 mil GFE a pop with anal all of a sudden became $100 a pop with in a span of months so I had to get rid of them and stop recommending my trusted chicas in WhatsApp groups and forums as others overpay for basic services and all of a sudden my services are considered extras that requires an upcharge. As for the 40 mil vs 200 mil, without context no one but you knows what that 40 mil service included. For example: A condom BJ and 10 minutes of thrusting does not equal to BBBJ, Anal and blowing a load in her face or having her swallow it, jajaja.
But overall I get what you're saying jajaja.
Medellin is only a ripoff in El Poblado. If you go to centro to monger you can still fuck many girls for 40 mil plus the room fee (9 mil). Many hot vennies and paisa chicas can be found if you put in the effort to find them.
What gets me is many of the girls that work parque lleras in Poblado in the evening are the same ones that work Centro in the day time or they have worked Centro in the past like in 2021 or 2022 then they switched up to Poblado and started charging way more.
I'll never forget there was this Chica Andreina I fucked her for 40 mil in the 2021 then later she went to Cartagena clock tower and came back and was working in El Poblado and somehow I got back in contact with her and she and her friends were all trying to tell me they wanted 200 mil to fuck now and I'm like "wtf bytch I fucked you 2 years ago for 40 mil" and she was "eso fue antes. ".
I imagine the stupid 'making it rain' motherfuxkers in Poblado and Cartagena were overpaying her and thus corrupted her and made her think she could charge more. Well needless to say I'm just on to the next one so I told her to fuck off anyways LOL.
You guys can pay her 200 mil or 250 mil or whatever, I fucked her when she was 19 years old and I paid 40 mil, now she is older and with way more milage and charging 5 times more and some of you guys are actually paying that and thinking that it's a bargain LOL. SMH.
The Tall Man
01-09-24, 17:22
Medellin is only a ripoff in El Poblado. If you go to centro to monger you can still fuck many girls for 40 mil plus the room fee (9 mil). Many hot vennies and paisa chicas can be found if you put in the effort to find them.
What gets me is many of the girls that work parque lleras in Poblado in the evening are the same ones that work Centro in the day time or they have worked Centro in the past like in 2021 or 2022 then they switched up to Poblado and started charging way more.
I'll never forget there was this Chica Andreina I fucked her for 40 mil in the 2021 then later she went to Cartagena clock tower and came back and was working in El Poblado and somehow I got back in contact with her and she and her friends were all trying to tell me they wanted 200 mil to fuck now and I'm like "wtf bytch I fucked you 2 years ago for 40 mil" and she was "eso fue antes. ".
I imagine the stupid 'making it rain' motherfuxkers in Poblado and Cartagena were overpaying her and thus corrupted her and made her think she could charge more. Well needless to say I'm just on to the next one so I told her to fuck off anyways LOL.
You guys can pay her 200 mil or 250 mil or whatever, I fucked her when she was 19 years old and I paid 40 mil, now she is older and with way more milage and charging 5 times more and some of you guys are actually paying that and thinking that it's a bargain LOL. SMH.Truer words have never been spoken. I see this being played out more times than I can count, having lived in Medellin for many years now, all the games, the racket, but what fun these chicas can be just never take anything serious.
TTM.
I guess the new Mayor demanded more money and they didn't pay.
This shit had been going on for years in Colombia, after Boca Chica got too hot they shifted it to Colombia.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C148SVgAJ7k/?igsh=Mmc4ZDUza21zMzd5
I never expected one to be in BocaGrande. I remember one of my chicas told me one time she was contacted on Instagram for work. They came and picked her up her and her friends from centro and once they got in the van all the girls had to put their cellphones in a bag that looks like a cooler. She said they drove all the way up past Manzanillo and pulled into a resort looking complex and they were there for 2 days with no access to their phones but they got paid really well.
The tourist areas looks like they are being cleaned up.
This has been coming for a long time and yes the murder of the gringo a few months ago definitely push things along. But has already been noted all the YouTube videos on Cartagena are now about street walkers. We've been talking about this for years now.
PerkinWarbeck
01-11-24, 13:52
The restrictions are only in place until May 31. Cartagena doesn't have the resources (money) to enforce these actions all year. They just want to cover the tourist season (December to February), and Holy Week (Easter). After that, they will relax it quite a bit. I was in Centro on Saturday getting dinner, and they have the police roaming in bands in the streets immediately surrounding the clock tower to watch for anything. It was super lively though.
Hold tight. If you're in the city, just stick to online. The women have incalls in Marbella, Bocagrande / Laguito, and Bosque. Bocagrande / Laguito is fine. For the others, use the app inDrive to have the driver drop you off right at the girl's hotel, and then call another when you are finished and wait before going outside the hotel.
If the lady doesn’t have an incall, you can go rent a room by the hour at Hotel Mar y Sol in Bocagrande for the both of you.
Ironically, Dumek has made acquiring sex a lot safer for tourists. You're not going to get drugged and robbed at a hotel incall.
Happy hunting.
The restrictions are only in place until May 31. Cartagena doesn't have the resources (money) to enforce these actions all year. They just want to cover the tourist season (December to February), and Holy Week (Easter). After that, they will relax it quite a bit. I was in Centro on Saturday getting dinner, and they have the police roaming in bands in the streets immediately surrounding the clock tower to watch for anything. It was super lively though.
Hold tight. If you're in the city, just stick to online. The women have incalls in Marbella, Bocagrande / Laguito, and Bosque. Bocagrande / Laguito is fine. For the others, use the app inDrive to have the driver drop you off right at the girl's hotel, and then call another when you are finished and wait before going outside the hotel.
If the lady doesnt have an incall, you can go rent a room by the hour at Hotel Mar y Sol in Bocagrande for the both of you.
Ironically, Dumek has made acquiring sex a lot safer for tourists. You're not going to get drugged and robbed at a hotel incall.
Happy hunting.I think you're missing the point of the bigger picture. The large groups of American gringos have put the scene into a tailspin. The same problem is going to happen if the restrictions are eased. As as far as in calls advertised online I wouldn't trust any of those if my life depends on it. Much less having a driver take me to some location in cortehania that I'm not familiar with and rely on him to hang around? I just find that to be an invitation for problems.
PerkinWarbeck
01-12-24, 01:33
Just got back from Centro. Space is open. I saw the doors open and security outside. It's early though, and there are barricades in the streets. If I didn't have to work tomorrow, I would have stayed out a while just to see.
Just got back from Centro. Space is open. I saw the doors open and security outside. It's early though, and there are barricades in the streets. If I didn't have to work tomorrow, I would have stayed out a while just to see.Any clubs back open.
Delirium?
Dolce Vita?
And to confirm Space is back open?
HumpyDumpty11
01-12-24, 03:50
Just got back from Centro. Space is open. I saw the doors open and security outside. It's early though, and there are barricades in the streets. If I didn't have to work tomorrow, I would have stayed out a while just to see.
I heard the girls aren't allowed in unless they are with a client or if they group together and reserve a table and buy bottle or beer service. They have to stay with the guy while in the club
American tourist found dead in hotel room in Cartagena yesterday, Wednesday January 10,2024.
https://youtu.be/7RfPWZDbNfY?si=ihZT7vFBqBpiO9vb
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PerkinWarbeck
01-12-24, 21:48
I think you're missing the point of the bigger picture. The large groups of American gringos have put the scene into a tailspin. The same problem is going to happen if the restrictions are eased. As as far as in calls advertised online I wouldn't trust any of those if my life depends on it. Much less having a driver take me to some location in cortehania that I'm not familiar with and rely on him to hang around? I just find that to be an invitation for problems.It's not the influx of tourists. Locals have been complaining about it for years. Dumek just saw the opportunity to earn some political capital by closing these places down. Dau turned a blind eye to the garbage in the square of Torre de Reloj and he was crucified for it in Colombian media. Cartageneros do not want the pride and joy of their city to be filled with prostitutes.
And it's nuts that you wouldn't go to a hotel, where the chica has to register herself or her pimp. A place that can give you actual recourse if something goes wrong. But you'the rather meet a girl on the street who could go back to your room, drug you, rob you, and you'the have no way to get justice.
HumpyDumpty11
01-12-24, 22:28
Any boots on the ground with the price changes? I guess with all the girls now being in the streets now, there's no distinction between a club girl and a street girl.
Also heard that 14 girls were arrested for the way they were dressed and lack of documentation to work.
Any boots on the ground with the price changes? I guess with all the girls now being in the streets now, there's no distinction between a club girl and a street girl.
Also heard that 14 girls were arrested for the way they were dressed and lack of documentation to work.They are not exactly in the streets due to they are kicking all the working girls outside Centro all together. Those who like the thrill of the hunt can now find the girls outside the walls behind Mall Plaza right before the Roundabout (where I come from that's what we call it) others know it as a Rotary or Traffic Circle. You will know it when you see it.
This is going to be very interesting as the usual suspects who likes to act a fool no longer have the security of El Centro. So those that like attention by throwing money will get all the attention including 2 men on a moto waiting to rob them, and the ones who like to dip out on the bill can get some nice consequences in the form of street justice. Also interesting due to most mongers who like to point and shoot go to those 3 main clubs in Cento or Clocktower for the girls, without the abundance of girls I'm guessing the clubs will slowly lose revenue and die off but we will see in 6 months.
Best of luck to all!
I guess the new Mayor demanded more money and they didn't pay.
Exactly. The bars did not give campaign contributions to the new Mayor, so he is making publicity trying to be a Moral guy. This will be temporary, as the cost of increased enforcement can never be sustained. They need the single men there to spend money.
Mr Enternational
01-15-24, 03:01
A friend just got back from Cartagena today. She said that yesterday at the ATM on Wall Street near the clock tower she was behind a guy at the ATM with a chick on each side. She said they held out their hands and said money. The guy then told them the PIN to his ATM card. I said that guy was drugged and you just stood there and let him get robbed. She said he should have known what he was getting into. Be careful out there guys.
Captain Solo
01-15-24, 04:13
If scopolamine does such a good job controlling the mind, why spooks have to water board guys?
Always Randy
01-15-24, 14:08
I wonder what the owners of the nice condos will say if everything moves to Bocogrande? I guess clubs will have to move as well, eventually. Maybe the mayor might buy each club a new spot in Bocogrande.That would be great. Hopefully Dolce Vita will move back to their old spot in Laguito. The space is still vacant after they left about eight years ago. Have lots of good memories of gems I've pulled out of there and the neighbourhood had a good vibe with the chicas, hot dog vendors and coffee sellers hanging out by the steps. Wasn't as crowded as the narrow street in Centro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_kWGKjNVqM
This is a prime example of why I no longer recommend my verified chica friendly accommodations in Colombia. Because this shit happens and then the owner change the rules to no more visitors allowed.
Also another reason why I don't do group apartments anymore. We can stay in the same building, but different apartments. When they get into their bullshit its 100% on them, it does not effect where I lay my head.
So many ways this went wrong and could have been avoided. What can be learn from this?
She's older, maybe a single mom so desperation is there for money.
She's already dressed in house clothes and flip flops like she was staying there with them.
She have a large iPhone with 3 cameras.
She has 2 arm tattoes.
She's talking in US dollars.
Hes paying in US dollars.
Theres only 1 girl and 4 guys.
Old head made things physical.
The cops were called.
Mr Enternational
01-15-24, 23:18
I wonder what the owners of the nice condos will say if everything moves to Bocogrande?Considering this video that a buddy sent me, I think they would say this is once less chica friendly place you have to worry about.
Considering this video that a buddy sent me, I think they would say this is once less chica friendly place you have to worry about.What you and I know is allot of this stuff gets talked about in private whatsapp groups and hardly make it to the public but when it does the usual suspects come out and try to defend bad behavior. Now I'm just doing things quietly, I don't talk to no mongers, and keeping critical info to myself as these new travelers after the lockdown have made things worse.
There is so much dumb shit happening and I've been saying it for the longest and people didn't want to believe whenever I call out bad behavior that makes the rest of us brothers look bad.
A while back on this forum mentioned these brothers sat next to me on Playa Hollywood, asked me a question and we spoke for a quick 2-minutes while I was telling them where they can go for girls in the night time. They ordered food and drinks and then left. Next thing I know the guy come bring me the bill with they shit added on it like they was with me. I had to sit there and argue and just ended up paying for my shit and left.
I also mentioned on this forum when I was with my chick and she was on her phone mad and tying mad angry, then asked me for some money which was odd because we never talk about money. Then she ran out the apartment gave the money to someone in a Taxi then came back in cursing up a storm. Asked her where the fuck my money go? She tells me some gringo took her friend to a restaurant, then dipped, leaving her there with the bill so she needed to borrow money to pay it. Fastforward to 2 weeks ago the same chica sends me this story.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1oxz-mg7UC/
I also mentioned when I went to Playa Azul and they brought me a high bill with extra things on there and I was fighting the extra items but gave in, and when to sign the guy took a picture of me and before I could react he grabbed it and ran off. I guessing enough people been reversing charges.
Bad apples make everyone look bad.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C2GRPP6AUO3/
Elvis 2008
01-16-24, 19:04
If scopolamine does such a good job controlling the mind, why spooks have to water board guys?LOL. I have not heard such hype since some Arab soldiers were taking some kind of stimulant, think it was an asthma drug, that turned them into uncaring, killing machines. With scope, your mind bends to the powers of suggestion. You are helpless if kissed by a woman with scope lipstick or have scope powder blown into your face.
CS, are you ready with what scopalamine REALLY is? Yeah, it is about the same thing as fucking Benadryl.
I think someone posted a list once of what the most common doping drugs were and at the top of the list were Valium / Xanax type drugs. I read you can buy Rohypnol in Colombia, and that is the one that has been labeled the date rape drug. That would seem to do the work a lot better than scope but if you have taken a Valium or Xanax, I scoff at the notion that it makes you powerless. On the other hand, if you have already had several beers or shots and were given Rohypnol, yeah, that would be bad.
HumpyDumpty11
01-17-24, 21:57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_kWGKjNVqM
This is a prime example of why I no longer recommend my verified chica friendly accommodations in Colombia. Because this shit happens and then the owner change the rules to no more visitors allowed.
Also another reason why I don't do group apartments anymore. We can stay in the same building, but different apartments. When they get into their bullshit its 100% on them, it does not effect where I lay my head.
Yeah I hear you. I don't share my main place with anyone except someone I have travelled with and know their demeanor. I found a couple of other places and I have a method to find other places in the same building. I keep that close to my chest.
So many ways this went wrong and could have been avoided. What can be learn from this?
She's older, maybe a single mom so desperation is there for money.
She's already dressed in house clothes and flip flops like she was staying there with them.What I hear about this situation is that she was with one guy (guy with braids) and the rate was for one hour. But the guy wanted many many many more hours with her after that. No one is talking about if there was a negotiation for the extra time, but from the video, I guess the guy thought she was with him cause she "loved" him soo much. But when she asked for more money cause of the more time, dude didn't want to pay. I want to know why that one guy who seems to be translating said the "the rate don't matter". That's where they fucked up. Cause the rate does matter, if one was set. If one was not set for the extra time, then you just got to pay her what she wants.
No see'Mon. 5 grown men couldn't come up with $20 a piece more to pay her to leave? Now they got to pay for that table that I'm sure cost over $500 plus still pay her. I bet they had to pay the cops too. Number 1 rule when you travel: Nothing is free. You better give her something even if you masquerade it as a donation to her college tuition.
Mr Enternational
01-18-24, 00:09
I want to know why that one guy who seems to be translating said the "the rate don't matter". That's where they fucked up. Cause the rate does matter, if one was set. If one was not set for the extra time, then you just got to pay her what she wants.I disagree. She could have wanted $,1000 or $2,000, or any amount. You can't just stand around and get scammed to no end. You have to draw a line somewhere. Michael Jackson said the worst thing he ever did was pay those people off when they scammed him. All that does is churn the water for more scamming.
Where they fucked up was snatching the girl's phone instead of going to get someone to get her out of there. A lot of these chicks have mental problems (as can be seen in the video) so choose carefully. Who could imagine a grown man in the hallway screaming for help to come after they have just torn somebody's shit up? Help me; I just fucked up somebody's shit! Mongering used to be so much simpler.
Considering this video that a buddy sent me, I think they would say this is once less chica friendly place you have to worry about.Bro DC Rob is talking about your buddy on his news LOL. He says he should have just paid the extra money. And that he's a rookie for using USD.
https://youtu.be/osT6_QiET50?si=Kfnb6YKNQZ5mD1Zg
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Yeah I hear you. I don't share my main place with anyone except someone I have travelled with and know their demeanor. I found a couple of other places and I have a method to find other places in the same building. I keep that close to my chest.
What I hear about this situation is that she was with one guy (guy with braids) and the rate was for one hour. But the guy wanted many many many more hours with her after that. No one is talking about if there was a negotiation for the extra time, but from the video, I guess the guy thought she was with him cause she "loved" him soo much. But when she asked for more money cause of the more time, dude didn't want to pay. I want to know why that one guy who seems to be translating said the "the rate don't matter". That's where they fucked up. Cause the rate does matter, if one was set. If one was not set for the extra time, then you just got to pay her what she wants.
No see'Mon. 5 grown men couldn't come up with $20 a piece more to pay her to leave? Now they got to pay for that table that I'm sure cost over $500 plus still pay her. I bet they had to pay the cops too. Number 1 rule when you travel: Nothing is free. You better give her something even if you masquerade it as a donation to her college tuition.All them guys are done in Colombia.
I have the videos that the girl was recording on her phone. She was recording them first and it sound like she said they were being cheap and didn't want to order not food "rappi" or nothing for her to eat. In her video she shows the guy who was recording the whole thing was in the living room minding his own business watching the football game then he started recording her when she went to sit at the table and the guy with the dreads didn't was to pay her extra. Old head in blue was at the table checking emails.
What blew this whole shit up was that old head in red slapped her iPhone Pro Max out her hand. You don't do no shit like that, that like stepping on someone all white Air Force 1's in the 90's. I remember when my Pro Max screen broke it was $350 just to repair the screen at Apple Store. They don't know what she had to do to get that phone and if it got damaged, what she now has to do to get it repaired. Them old heads was thinking $100 for the bedroom fun not realizing she was charging for her time + bedroom fun.
Long story short, all the working girls have a chat group similar to the girls in Thailand where they post pictures and videos of gringos who are cheap or behave badly. The girl uploaded the videos to the group along with screenshots of guys contact information, the guys phone number had a 404 area code so ATL bringing the Sosua behavior to CTG.
All 5 of those guys are done in Colombia, they have zero clue who that girl knows from the barrios.
The fucked up part is the ones who are going to get the consequences are other black men who arrive in Cartagena and the ones who live there who does not display that degenerate behavior.
They should have took the L and paid her to leave, now all they did was make all black Americans look bad and enforce the things they are saying in that girls chat group about black Americans.
Looks like the person deleted the YouTube video along with other creators that spoke about it and showed the video.
I disagree. She could have wanted $,1000 or $2,000, or any amount. You can't just stand around and get scammed to no end. You have to draw a line somewhere. Michael Jackson said the worst thing he ever did was pay those people off when they scammed him. All that does is churn the water for more scamming.
Where they fucked up was snatching the girl's phone instead of going to get someone to get her out of there. A lot of these chicks have mental problems (as can be seen in the video) so choose carefully. Who could imagine a grown man in the hallway screaming for help to come after they have just torn somebody's shit up? Help me; I just fucked up somebody's shit! Mongering used to be so much simpler.I fully understand where your coming from if she's trying to double the price out of nowhere but if you look at how the girl is dressed it appears she slept there and hes only trying to give her $100.
Come on LOL, you know that's some crazy low-ball Sosua behavior shit LOL.
Shorty was hella strong though, she had that defensive lineman strength that it took 2 old heads to get her out the apartment LOL.
PerkinWarbeck
01-18-24, 17:44
All 5 of those guys are done in Colombia, they have zero clue who that girl knows from the barrios.
The fucked up part is the ones who are going to get the consequences are other black men who arrive in Cartagena and the ones who live there who does not display that degenerate behavior.
They should have took the L and paid her to leave, now all they did was make all black Americans look bad and enforce the things they are saying in that girls chat group about black Americans.
Looks like the person deleted the YouTube video along with other creators that spoke about it and showed the video.This isn't how it works at all.
Firstly, these girls don't know anyone in the barrios. The chicas are not from Cartagena. They are from all over the country and are staying close by in short time hotels and hostels in Campestre or Marbella. Actual Cartageneras will avoid public places when they are involved in sex work. They aren't done in Colombia nor in Cartagena. They can easily go right back to mongering. There is no blacklist because these girls only communicate with their own roommates. In fact, the way these girls operate, they would gladly meet up with the tourist again even after a blow up. They aren’t making much money, and they need to pay for their lodging, food, and send money home to their family that is taking care of their kid(s).
And these girls are not going to stop having sex with black men. They will go with whoever pays them, no matter their characteristics.
A good chunk of you all are just anti-black. I was in Centro last night for dinner and took my girl on a walk around for a few hours. I can count on one hand the number of black men I saw there. There isn't a flood of black folks. Likely fewer than 50 at any given time touring the city. It's just easy to scapegoat them.
This isn't how it works at all.
Firstly, these girls don't know anyone in the barrios. The chicas are not from Cartagena. They are from all over the country and are staying close by in short time hotels and hostels in Campestre or Marbella. Actual Cartageneras will avoid public places when they are involved in sex work. They aren't done in Colombia nor in Cartagena. They can easily go right back to mongering. There is no blacklist because these girls only communicate with their own roommates. In fact, the way these girls operate, they would gladly meet up with the tourist again even after a blow up. They arent making much money, and they need to pay for their lodging, food, and send money home to their family that is taking care of their kid(s).
And these girls are not going to stop having sex with black men. They will go with whoever pays them, no matter their characteristics.
A good chunk of you all are just anti-black. I was in Centro last night for dinner and took my girl on a walk around for a few hours. I can count on one hand the number of black men I saw there. There isn't a flood of black folks. Likely fewer than 50 at any given time touring the city. It's just easy to scapegoat them.I'm a black man currently in CTG and I haven't experienced problems. There's not much of us out here in opposed to MDE.
Mr Enternational
01-18-24, 19:54
Shorty was hella strong though, she had that defensive lineman strength that it took 2 old heads to get her out the apartment LOL.Somebody on facebook had made a meme and put Tampa Bay Bucaneers over her head and Philadelphia Eagles over their heads.
I found the video still up.
https://www.youtube.com/live/SdtIDpP-WLw?si=iCsUlire5wfKVeWc
Just fast forward to 9:23 to see the bytxh getting man handled LOL.
"that's my Sci-Phone that's my Sci-Phone" lmao jajajajaja.
She's already speaking too much English for me. And any girl that owns an iPhone is not a girl I would want to see. That's a red flag right there that she probably scopes and robs people or at the very least she overcharges.
I don't see anything wrong with how the brothas threw her bytch ass out the room, I mean look at the table she broke. If she wanted more money than what was originally agreed upon then she should have renegotiated you just can't change the price to whatever the hell you want it to be and expect the dude to pay it, even if they are rookies paying in USD.
-Gabacho.
HumpyDumpty11
01-18-24, 20:48
I disagree. She could have wanted $,1000 or $2,000, or any amount. You can't just stand around and get scammed to no end. You have to draw a line somewhere. Michael Jackson said the worst thing he ever did was pay those people off when they scammed him. All that does is churn the water for more scamming.
Oh don't get me wrong, they shouldn't allow her to scam them at all. But that one guy is trying to figure out what's going on and ask what was the rate. And the other guy says the rate doesn't matter. That's where I think he's wrong. Cause if his boy told the girl I'm going to give her more money for more time then change his mind at the last minute cause he didn't nut (just me exaggerating), that dude needs to take responsibility for what he said. I guess we'll never know until someone gets the real details. But she was wrong for changing from the $150 to the $200.
I have seen it in the So when one guy tells the girl yeah I want this that and the other, then he tries to low-ball the girl cause he didn't nut.
I fully understand where your coming from if she's trying to double the price out of nowhere but if you look at how the girl is dressed it appears she slept there and hes only trying to give her $100.
Come on LOL, you know that's some crazy low-ball Sosua behavior shit LOL.
Shorty was hella strong though, she had that defensive lineman strength that it took 2 old heads to get her out the apartment LOL.Maybe you don't realize that $100 usd is 400 mil pesos and the going rate is around 80 mil pesos per hour. So actually $100 usd is a very fare price. I can get amanecidas in Medellin for 300 mil.
His mistake was paying in USD. If he had offered her 400 mil in pesos she would have been happy with that. $200 usd is 800 mil and that's way too much money even if she did stay overnight. Plus she's not even the spinner 18 - 20 year old type of girl she looks closer to 30 and is probably fucking ran through.
Mr Enternational
01-19-24, 00:04
But that one guy is trying to figure out what's going on and ask what was the rate. And the other guy says the rate doesn't matter. That's where I think he's wrong. I do not think he meant that literally. In the heat of the moment, I think he meant it in more of a sense in fuck this shit this chick is trying to pull; show her the door.
PerkinWarbeck
01-19-24, 01:55
I'm a black man currently in CTG and I haven't experienced problems. There's not much of us out here in opposed to MDE.There's not many anywhere in the country.
I'm a black man currently in CTG and I haven't experienced problems. There's not much of us out here in opposed to MDE.Can you provide some context?
Do you live there? Extended stay or Visiting?
How long have you been there and what area are you staying?
Are you going to the hot spots where certain behaviors are taking place such as the clubs in Centro or Playa Hollywood?
I disagree. She could have wanted $,1000 or $2,000, or any amount. You can't just stand around and get scammed to no end. You have to draw a line somewhere. Michael Jackson said the worst thing he ever did was pay those people off when they scammed him. All that does is churn the water for more scamming.
Where they fucked up was snatching the girl's phone instead of going to get someone to get her out of there. A lot of these chicks have mental problems (as can be seen in the video) so choose carefully. Who could imagine a grown man in the hallway screaming for help to come after they have just torn somebody's shit up? Help me; I just fucked up somebody's shit! Mongering used to be so much simpler.You are assuming a lot of things there. Maybe the guys were in the wrong and didn't pay them the right amount because they sucked in bed. Sometimes you have to take the loss there, Warren Sapp lost a 400 k job on the nfl network because he threw some hoes out of the room in Miami. The girls let him videotape them giving a double blowjob and when he wanted to have sex they said it was more. I blame sapp for being a cheap ass and not being clear on everything. That was a 400 k blowjob. I hope that was worth it.
As far as Jackson goes, what a laughable quote by you. The worst thing Jackson did was admit to actually sleeping with a bunch of little boys but it's not sexual, it's just fun, as he says. LOL. Yea, a 40 year old man having slumber parties with 8 to 10 year olds on the regular is perfectly normal. You are delusional if you think Jackson is innocent. Go watch the hbo documentary on him and tell me everyone is lying. What next, mark fuhrman put ojs blood at every crime scene. If these people weren't rich and famous they would have all been in prison. If any of us admitted in public we sleep with 10 year olds on national tv, the cops would have been at our door in seconds to save the kids.
I found the video still up.
https://www.youtube.com/live/SdtIDpP-WLw?si=iCsUlire5wfKVeWc
Just fast forward to 9:23 to see the bytxh getting man handled LOL.
"that's my Sci-Phone that's my Sci-Phone" lmao jajajajaja.
She's already speaking too much English for me. And any girl that owns an iPhone is not a girl I would want to see. That's a red flag right there that she probably scopes and robs people or at the very least she overcharges.
I don't see anything wrong with how the brothas threw her bytch ass out the room, I mean look at the table she broke. If she wanted more money than what was originally agreed upon then she should have renegotiated you just can't change the price to whatever the hell you want it to be and expect the dude to pay it, even if they are rookies paying in USD.
-Gabacho.The guys are going around asking people to take down the video. But its already out. And the video that the girl recorded is out as well. You are correct that if the chica has an Iphone Pro Max its a huge red flag but some brothers just love chasing the BBLs.
Maybe you don't realize that $100 usd is 400 mil pesos and the going rate is around 80 mil pesos per hour. So actually $100 usd is a very fare price. I can get amanecidas in Medellin for 300 mil.
His mistake was paying in USD. If he had offered her 400 mil in pesos she would have been happy with that. $200 usd is 800 mil and that's way too much money even if she did stay overnight. Plus she's not even the spinner 18 - 20 year old type of girl she looks closer to 30 and is probably fucking ran through.I'm currently in Santa Martha, $100 is not exactly 400 mil, the exchange rate has dropped. Money exchange places are giving 3. 5 or 3. 6, I'm still using pesos from my last trip and tapping my card so the low rate does not effect me much right now.
MDE is not CTG that like grabbing a steak from Dollar General then run into Whole Foods and tell them they are overcharging for meat LOL.
The usual trolls came out and saying that the guys ran a train on her and it was supposed to be $50 a piece and that's where the $200 came from, SMH. Trolls being trolls.
After talking to a few girls, they said was she was only with the guy that had dreads and she was with him all day, they had sex multiple times and the rate for all day was supposed to be $200. But when time came for him to pay he only wanted to give her $100.
They should have handled it differently. Old head in blue came in mad aggressive, then old head in red slapped the Pro Max out her hand. And she was on some shit, I'm guessing Tootsie because she had that crackhead strength, I'm still laughing at how she held 2 of them old heads back LOL.
But old head in red was going extra, trying to push her down the steps.
Here's another link that starts of showing what the chica was recording from her phone but its edited. There's a whole minute missing where she was going around recording all the guys including the one who recorded the video. Most copies out there don't show the old head in the white shirt. They only show blue shirt, red shirt, green shirt and the guy with the dreads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFIB8Z7vVTo
Somebody on facebook had made a meme and put Tampa Bay Bucaneers over her head and Philadelphia Eagles over their heads.Leave it up to the internet to make a meme LOL.
I'm betting she was on Tootsie because she had that crackhead strength.
I've been with a girl who use to display similar behavior, she could be calm and laughing in a corner one minute, then in the shower in the corner crying the next. She had that cat looking at birds twitch every time she turned her head to look at something. Great sex when she was on it but I had to let her go.
This isn't how it works at all.
Firstly, these girls don't know anyone in the barrios. The chicas are not from Cartagena. They are from all over the country and are staying close by in short time hotels and hostels in Campestre or Marbella. Actual Cartageneras will avoid public places when they are involved in sex work. They aren't done in Colombia nor in Cartagena. They can easily go right back to mongering. There is no blacklist because these girls only communicate with their own roommates. In fact, the way these girls operate, they would gladly meet up with the tourist again even after a blow up. They arent making much money, and they need to pay for their lodging, food, and send money home to their family that is taking care of their kid(s).
And these girls are not going to stop having sex with black men. They will go with whoever pays them, no matter their characteristics.
A good chunk of you all are just anti-black. I was in Centro last night for dinner and took my girl on a walk around for a few hours. I can count on one hand the number of black men I saw there. There isn't a flood of black folks. Likely fewer than 50 at any given time touring the city. It's just easy to scapegoat them.I'm all for my fellow black americans travelling and experiencing something better that what's at home but its not about color, its about culture.
Your posts shows that we are in completely different social circles. Sometimes the information you provide leaves me in a blank stare trying to comprehend it but it's starting to make sense.
You only do incalls or date using the websites. I previously mostly went to Centro clubs and get chicas or got them from Tinder.
You live in Manga. I'm only there about 3 months a year total at 3 weeks at a time minimum so you have more time to do things slow and I'm trying to do allot in little time.
You stated Bocagrande and El Laguito was for families and not mongers. Most mongers I know only stay in that area cause they want the Maimi look as long as the building allow guests.
You say you can count on 1 hand the amount of black men you saw on a Wednesday night in Centro AFTER a US holiday weekend. I was there on the holiday weekend and it was total opposite. Wednesday night does not compare to a Friday night or Saturday night on a 3 day weekend.
This just shows me that your living in a bubble and there's nothing wrong with that, but if you are not actively in the places and times where these things are happening its a whole lot of missing context. For allot of these mongers, nighttime starts at like 10 or 11 so if your not out there in Centro at midnight in the clubs on the weekend then you're not having the same experience as the typical monger. I understand since you live there you cannot do certain things as you're a familiar face and do not want a certain stigma attached to you, if I was living there I would do the same.
Here's something you may have missed that happen in my circle (chica told me) that you may or may not have heard or seen in your circle.
When I was there MLK Weekend one of my chicas told me there was a gringo walking around outside Delirium and Clock Tower area harassing people putting his phone in their face recording them screaming hola! Hola! Hola! I told her she must have been mistaken because nobody is dumb enough to do that and the ones who record, do it secretly.
After this fight video showed up all over youtube and I watched a few of them, this video below popped up in the recommendations. I immediately had to go back and apologize to the girl for not believing her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Frix1_Gxhg
The guys are going around asking people to take down the video. But its already out. And the video that the girl recorded is out as well. You are correct that if the chica has an Iphone Pro Max its a huge red flag but some brothers just love chasing the BBLs.
I'm currently in Santa Martha, $100 is not exactly 400 mil, the exchange rate has dropped. Money exchange places are giving 3. 5 or 3. 6, I'm still using pesos from my last trip and tapping my card so the low rate does not effect me much right now.
MDE is not CTG that like grabbing a steak from Dollar General then run into Whole Foods and tell them they are overcharging for meat LOL.
The usual trolls came out and saying that the guys ran a train on her and it was supposed to be $50 a piece and that's where the $200 came from, SMH. Trolls being trolls.
After talking to a few girls, they said was she was only with the guy that had dreads and she was with him all day, they had sex multiple times and the rate for all day was supposed to be $200. But when time came for him to pay he only wanted to give her $100.
They should have handled it differently. Old head in blue came in mad aggressive, then old head in red slapped the Pro Max out her hand. And she was on some shit, I'm guessing Tootsie because she had that crackhead strength, I'm still laughing at how she held 2 of them old heads back LOL.I just pulled from Davivienda yesterday and got 3950 per dollar.
You are assuming a lot of things there. Maybe the guys were in the wrong and didn't pay them the right amount because they sucked in bed. Sometimes you have to take the loss there, Warren Sapp lost a 400 k job on the nfl network because he threw some hoes out of the room in Miami. The girls let him videotape them giving a double blowjob and when he wanted to have sex they said it was more. I blame sapp for being a cheap ass and not being clear on everything. That was a 400 k blowjob. I hope that was worth it.
I remember reporting on something similar in 2021 where guy agreed to a price, then didn't want to pay because his boy couldn't hit it too. That degenerate Sosua behavior.
Last paragraph.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2597275&viewfull=1#post2597275.
Mr Enternational
01-19-24, 15:37
I blame sapp for being a cheap ass and not being clear on everything.No matter how clear you are, it does not stop someone who is going to scam you from scamming you. This is street shit. An oral or written contract means nothing when someone wants to change the deal after the fact. As I asked before, where should Sapp have drawn the line? Seems you are saying that no lines should be drawn. If the chicks wanted $200,000 after agreeing to $200 then he should have not been a cheap ass and handed it over?
The guys are going around asking people to take down the video. But its already out. And the video that the girl recorded is out as well. You are correct that if the chica has an Iphone Pro Max its a huge red flag but some brothers just love chasing the BBLs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFIB8Z7vVToThanks for posting the whole video. Yea she definitely looks like she's 30 years old and she looks high on something like you said probably Tusi or Perico or a mix of both.
She looks fucking ran through with her tetas caidas LOL. I see chicas like her in botero plaza fucking for like 50 mil pesos you can probably bareback her for like 80 mil to 100 mil per rato.
I believe she was trying to charge extra money because the brothas were obviously foreigners and didn't speak any Spanish. Even the one that did speak some Spanish spoke very little and with mistakes. These guys are very inexperienced, they should stick to Mexico until they brush up on their Spanish skills before just hopping into Colombia. I recommend the app Duolingo.
And yes I know CTG isn't MDE but I believe CTG is a big fucking ripoff compared to the rest of the country, I've been coming here since 2018 and had my own place here since 2022 and I've been all over. Bogota Medellin Cali Cucuta Bucaramanga Villavicencio among other places and I can tell you anywhere you go if it's condom sex the going rate is 40-50 mil per rato which is generally a half hour and about 80-100 mil per hour.
I don't know if she came from the street, or Facebook, or tinder or wherever the fuck she came from but she doesn't look any better than ones that can be found on the street.
I say $100 usd is fare and she is trying to rip the dread dude off. His only mistakes are that he should know Spanish to have a better control of the situation and he should be paying in pesos $400 mil COP instead of the $100 usd.
Good afternoon to all, greetings from Cartagena, as has been said the current situation with the girls is not good, and I do not think it is something temporary, while this mayor is in charge will remain the same, maybe allow to open one or another club but nothing more, they will not return to the clock tower for sure.
I recently accompanied a member of the forum to visit the bars and clubs outside the historic center and all are functioning normally, if anyone is interested in doing this tour can contact me by PM.
And yes I know CTG isn't MDE but I believe CTG is a big fucking ripoff compared to the rest of the country
I still like Cartagena for various reasons but you're right, total ripoff. Worst parts are the relentless sun, crappy beaches, nagging vendors, and ridiculous accommodations pricing compared to anywhere else. The last one is what gets me. I can pay half the price and get a nicer place almost anywhere else. I have no idea why people pay it. I could understand if the roads were well maintained, the beaches were amazing, and the weather was halfway tolerable, but you're literally paying just because there's some other idiot willing to pay that much.
PerkinWarbeck
01-20-24, 01:38
I'm all for my fellow black americans travelling and experiencing something better that what's at home but its not about color, its about culture.
Your posts shows that we are in completely different social circles. Sometimes the information you provide leaves me in a blank stare trying to comprehend it but it's starting to make sense.
You only do incalls or date using the websites. I previously mostly went to Centro clubs and get chicas or got them from Tinder.
You live in Manga. I'm only there about 3 months a year total at 3 weeks at a time minimum so you have more time to do things slow and I'm trying to do allot in little time.
You stated Bocagrande and El Laguito was for families and not mongers. Most mongers I know only stay in that area cause they want the Maimi look as long as the building allow guests.
You say you can count on 1 hand the amount of black men you saw on a Wednesday night in Centro AFTER a US holiday weekend. I was there on the holiday weekend and it was total opposite. Wednesday night does not compare to a Friday night or Saturday night on a 3 day weekend.
This just shows me that your living in a bubble and there's nothing wrong with that, but if you are not actively in the places and times where these things are happening its a whole lot of missing context. For allot of these mongers, nighttime starts at like 10 or 11 so if your not out there in Centro at midnight in the clubs on the weekend then you're not having the same experience as the typical monger. I understand since you live there you cannot do certain things as you're a familiar face and do not want a certain stigma attached to you, if I was living there I would do the same.
Here's something you may have missed that happen in my circle (chica told me) that you may or may not have heard or seen in your circle.
When I was there MLK Weekend one of my chicas told me there was a gringo walking around outside Delirium and Clock Tower area harassing people putting his phone in their face recording them screaming hola! Hola! Hola! I told her she must have been mistaken because nobody is dumb enough to do that and the ones who record, do it secretly.
After this fight video showed up all over youtube and I watched a few of them, this video below popped up in the recommendations. I immediately had to go back and apologize to the girl for not believing her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Frix1_GxhgI don't do much whoring at all anymore since I live here and people know me. The thing is that what you're saying in here just isn't true. The girls you see on Tinder and in Centro also advertise for way less in Telegram groups for Colombian men. They also will host you at their little hostel in the surrounding neighborhoods. There aren't two distinct social circles. The girls are exactly the same. You just aren't here long enough and you don't speak Spanish well enough to make the statements you're making here.
And I'm heading downtown tonight with my girl to go dancing. I'll report back.
Mr Enternational
01-20-24, 02:16
The girls you see on Tinder and in Centro also advertise for way less in Telegram groups for Colombian men.A brother in the Thailand thread posted the he was perusing the Thai hooker boards and wrote to a chick. The listted price in her ad was $36, but since he is a foreigner then she told him $126.
I just pulled from Davivienda yesterday and got 3950 per dollar.Thanks for providing context on how you're getting that rate VS what I'm getting. Good ole ATM.
If I had the grandfathered SoFi Card or Schwabb brokerage account with checking linked I would go that route too but for now I just visit the Cambrios and exchange cash as needed.
I don't do much whoring at all anymore since I live here and people know me. The thing is that what you're saying in here just isn't true. The girls you see on Tinder and in Centro also advertise for way less in Telegram groups for Colombian men. They also will host you at their little hostel in the surrounding neighborhoods. There aren't two distinct social circles. The girls are exactly the same. You just aren't here long enough and you don't speak Spanish well enough to make the statements you're making here.
And I'm heading downtown tonight with my girl to go dancing. I'll report back.Show me these girls who's advertising for cheap and not no "chubby" ones either cause I don't chase fupas. Show me an advertisement for someone under 25, all natural, in shape, no kids, little to no tattoos.
Previously I've provided pictures, screenshots, links to things, or very descriptive reports when I report back on what's happening while I'm there so others don't make the same mistakes I did and in my little 3 months I've given out more accurate info than you have who live there. Bruh LOL.
Now that I recall, you're the one who straight out called me a liar when I was there last year for carnival when I reported gringos were prepaying girls and reserving them to be available that carnival weekend. Then the Admins deleted your post.
I'm waiting for your report to see how vague you're going to be while you were out dancing. LOL.
But I'll be driving back down from Santa Martha in a few days and report back on what I see in Centro.
No. It is because they are the ones with cameras posting it online all the time is the reason you think it is always Black Americans. My people seem to be boisterous with mongering and having to announce it from the rooftops. It can be said that half of us do not even realize the chicks are hookers the way they go posting online about how much easier it is to get chicks in other places than in America. Duhhh. Are you not realizing the people you are showing as examples are hookers? Because everyone else does.
This while White guys tend to be more "shy" or private about mongering. How many times has a White guy come on this board and said I am traveling with a friend and do not want them to know. While I am saying fool your friend is doing the same damn thing! Black guys are coming on the board asking about villas for the whole group. We do not really have shame when it comes to messing with hookers. And White guys are more likely to pay for the problem to go away, whereas Black guys are not going to be scammed so easily. (Come on. The mayor of Cartagena does not even make $200 per day. Could the hooker in the video honestly expect to?
And let's not even mention the $800 some expect for a few hours. Had those Black Secret Service Agents paid those Cartagena hookers the agreed amount and not have been trying to steal from the girls then they would have still had jobs til this day. Oops. Those guys were WHITE! My bad.I don't know man, all I can say is in my 20 years of mongering, I have NEVER had a girl ask for more than the agreed on price and try to scam me. That's a large sample size. I've had the occasional dud with the condom blowjob but that's life. I've been asked for tips and taxi fare. That's up to you when it comes to paying that. Black Americans seem to always have a problem with the price and say the girl is trying to scam them by asking for double the rate or whatever. I call BS. I just think in most cases they try to scam the girl. The dreads guy agreed to 200 for all day and then only paid 100. He scammed her and then tried to play victim. These agents you mentioned should have paid 800 if they stupidly agreed to that. If you agree to a dumb rate don't give them a lower amount later. I generally side with the girls when I see them get that mad in a video. That means the guy didn't pay or paid less.
Why did black Americans have such a bad reputation when Help was open. You telling me all the white guys were being scammed and paid the extortion rate. No way. I just think black guys get the occasional dud like we do and then try to back out. You have to take the L there because you can't force a girl to give no condom BJ or pse. The agents lost a 100 k job, sapp lost a 400 k job, these people are amateurs in this game. Read up before you play.
Mr Enternational
01-21-24, 10:46
I don't know man, all I can say is in my 20 years of mongering, I have NEVER had a girl ask for more than the agreed on price and try to scam me.You definitely have not been to Sosua then! Also it has been reported that some of those Medellin chicks try to change 200,000 pesos after by saying it is supposed to be $200.
PerkinWarbeck
01-21-24, 23:14
Show me these girls who's advertising for cheap and not no "chubby" ones either cause I don't chase fupas. Show me an advertisement for someone under 25, all natural, in shape, no kids, little to no tattoos.
Previously I've provided pictures, screenshots, links to things, or very descriptive reports when I report back on what's happening while I'm there so others don't make the same mistakes I did and in my little 3 months I've given out more accurate info than you have who live there. Bruh LOL.
Now that I recall, you're the one who straight out called me a liar when I was there last year for carnival when I reported gringos were prepaying girls and reserving them to be available that carnival weekend. Then the Admins deleted your post.
I'm waiting for your report to see how vague you're going to be while you were out dancing. LOL.
But I'll be driving back down from Santa Martha in a few days and report back on what I see in Centro.No tattoos? Basically every girl you will see in the sex business will have them.
All you've done is parrot what the girls say. And because you don't speak Spanish, you're almost forced to be naive. You have to believe what the girls say because you don't know any better. But if you did live here, you'd know that they lie. The girls are not making huge amounts from a single client. That's a lie. She's telling you that to boost her own ego, but because you don't know any better, you believe her. The vast majority of he girls can't get a single gringo to go for the exorbitant pricing, and even the upselling in Centro doesn't yield strong results. The muchachas that you are paying 300 k will go with a Colombian man for half of that, if not less, because that's a market clearing price.
Not vague at all. I ended up going out on Saturday because we went to a birthday party in Campestre on Friday. The best restaurants are all in the city walls. We ate at San Valentin. Not my favorite, but my Tati loves it. We walked around after for a while because her friend was taking her costea time and got some ice cream. The police have started barricading further away from the square. The block before San Valentin in the direction towards leaving downtown up until the hookah bar has been blocked off too recently. The muchachas have started gathering just outside of the barricade usually close to that Carulla Express near Universidad Cartagena. I was with my girl, so I only gave them a quick look before moving on. We pregamed at Mirador with my girl's coworker and her boyfriend. It was close to 11 when we left. Clock Tower and the square around it were completely dead. Space was too. We went dancing first at Ethical Bar. Plenty of foreigners there with a smattering of Colombians. No working girls from what I saw. We went to Seven after and danced there. It's probably the best club in the city for dancing. Tati and I walked home around 2 AM. Centro was pretty quiet. Getsemani was lively, especially around Havana Club.
I saw exactly 6 black men. 4 of them were in a group and sat next to us at San Valentin. The other two were walking in that hookah bar.
Again, you're just going to parrot what the muchachas say, and that isn't helpful for the readers of this thread. They lie all the time.
PerkinWarbeck
01-22-24, 01:17
A good example is this muchacha.
https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/triguena-50-culoncita-natural-fogosa-arrechita-ardiente-y-muy-sensual/23815463/
I messaged her today and was quoted 120 k for two shots. That's the typical going rate for women. The same girl will also stand in Centro and offer the same service for 2 - 3 x as much hoping to catch a foreigner who doesn't know any better. Paying more than 200 k is crazy considering what these same girls will do for way less.
PerkinWarbeck
01-23-24, 20:36
Parientes,
A new decree from Dumek strictly banning prostitution in Centro. Authorities have already been restricting access for anyone suspicious in the streets directly leading to The Clock Tower with barricades manned by police. Now they have the ammo to prosecute the girls who have been standing outside those barricades in the streets outside of the barricades.
I saw a lot of action in Laguito. I went to watch the Bills / Chiefs game on Sunday at my buddy’s house and walked around after. I saw groups of muchachas, usually 4 or 5 in a handful of spaces. It looks like there and probably Getsemani will be the new hot spots.
Happy hunting!
Parientes,
A new decree from Dumek strictly banning prostitution in Centro. Authorities have already been restricting access for anyone suspicious in the streets directly leading to The Clock Tower with barricades manned by police. Now they have the ammo to prosecute the girls who have been standing outside those barricades in the streets outside of the barricades.
I saw a lot of action in Laguito. I went to watch the Bills / Chiefs game on Sunday at my buddys house and walked around after. I saw groups of muchachas, usually 4 or 5 in a handful of spaces. It looks like there and probably Getsemani will be the new hot spots.
Happy hunting!Good news, exactly as I was gessing weeks ago. Where exactly in Laguito?
PerkinWarbeck
01-24-24, 14:12
Good news, exactly as I was gessing weeks ago. Where exactly in Laguito?My buddy lives in Edificio Atlantis. Exiting from there and heading towards Bocagrande, the girls are right there along that street.
After having such a great weekend in CTG in Dec (5 conventionally attractive, slim perky, nice tits and ass, mix of plastic and natural, all for 250 K-400 K cop for someone with weak Spanish) I won't be going back until their routine is established.
I like how simple CTG was, get a $50/ night girl friendly stay at Ethnic Them, wait till 930 pm to 230 am near the 3 clubs. Repeat same girls for day time. Fish in a barrel with so many hot ones you knew where to go. But now it seems in Flux, especially as girls decide if CTG there long teem spot.
Maybe it'll turn off the annoying Pookies. One guy goes by PreeminentPab1 on YouTube, I thought he was a big deal from the commotion & attention he was stirring up on Deliriums Street. Camera out, walking into vendors making them think he's going to buy, and filming girls faces. I like that the main clubs it was transparent, all the girls were working so no dealing with customers that are casuals.
HumpyDumpty11
01-25-24, 18:50
Just got some news from a friend who was in el centro last night around 1 am. He said the streets are slim pickings. He went into vsop and he was his friend were the only 3 people inside except for the staff. The rooftop above vsop had some guys with girls but had guys on there phones. Maybe trying to set some shit up.
He tried to record on the intersection before you get to Delirium and everyone was yelling no video, don't record. YouTubers fucked shit up and they calling them out now.
Not sure if this has been mentioned but there was a new decree issued on the 19th: prostitution is more prohibited in the wall city. I have it translated here:
Eluniversalctg #Últimahora Through Decree 0065 of January 19,2024, the Mayor's Office of Cartagena established some measures to guarantee public order, stop sexual exploitation and the prohibition of the consumption of hallucinogenic substances in public spaces, educational institutions, churches, among others.
One of the measures established in said decree is the prohibition of the offering of sexual services within the walled cordon.
"The exercise of prostitution activity and other purposes shall be suspended in areas of public space in the Historic Center. Likewise, the sale and promotion of sexual services in the City Center is prohibited," the decree reads.
This decree modifies Decree 0003 of January 1, 2024, through which measures are established to restore public order in the Historic Center of Cartagena de Indias the. T. And see and its tourism sector against sex tourism and human trafficking, especially to protect children and adolescents, and measures against the marketing and trafficking of narcotics, and other provisions are issued.
The promotion of commercial and tourist activities through images, links, texts, documents or audiovisual files that directly or indirectly imply sexual activities in the Historic Center of Cartagena is also prohibited.
HumpyDumpty11
01-26-24, 16:36
I don't like to promote youtubers but this Colombian guy is bringing the information straight to us, just about everyday about what is happening in cartagena. His latest post is about the dislike for the youtubers filming the girls in el centro. This goes hand in hand with my friend being told not to film in el centro the other day.
https://www.youtube.com/@thecolombianguide5832/videos
I don't like to promote youtubers but this Colombian guy is bringing the information straight to us, just about everyday about what is happening in cartagena. His latest post is about the dislike for the youtubers filming the girls in el centro. This goes hand in hand with my friend being told not to film in el centro the other day.
https://www.youtube.com/@thecolombianguide5832/videosI'd rather support a local guy giving actual info. Not the 4 K walkthrus which I appreciated before but now they repost old vids and purposely keeping answers vague to drum up more clicks. I won't be going to Cartagena until their scene is concrete for at least a month.
PerkinWarbeck
01-29-24, 01:13
Was in Centro last night. Plenty of folks partying, but the working girls are no longer concentrated in one spot. Usually just in groups of 3 - 4 in a certain spot. Making Centro less amenable to sex work is going to have knock on effects for how mongers enjoy the city now.
The AirBnBs within the walls aren't worth it anymore.
The best way to enjoy the city is to have a girl already with you from Medellin, Cali, or Barranquilla. Or test enough girls in short time hotels until you find a good one in Cartagena.
My advice would be to stay in the nice hotels in Bocagrande. Leave your valuables in your room and don't invite a girl there. If you find a girl, either in person or online, invite her to a short time hotel. The only one I know in Bocagrande is Hotel Mar why Sol. I've rented a room there for 30 k an hour, though I'm unsure what the prices are now. Take only the money you need to pay her and for the room. You meet the girl at the hotel, enjoy her, and leave. This eliminates you being robbed for anything.
Once you find a girl you click with, take her to Baru or Islas Del Rosario for a night or two. Get a real girlfriend experience (tongue kissing, hand holding, and bareback sex) at a nice private hotel there. A great time for both of you.
HumpyDumpty11
01-29-24, 14:39
So I'm hearing that the clubs downtown are not the same as they use to be. I hear there is a club outside the center called Androgeno Latin Club that has picked up the Delirium mantel. They have the hip-hop crowd now. But that club is not in a good neighborhood, so I expect to hear that gringos will be getting robbed or stuck up from there. I heard if you want to go there, make sure you have a guide. The rules for the girls are that only girls that have worked at Delirium are allowed to enter. I'm not sure how much taxis are charging yet but I imagine they can charge anything now cause you will want to leave that neighborhood as fast as you can.
I heard that the Space crowd may be going to a club called Terazza 47. That is also outside the walled city, closer to Caribe Plaza mall, from what I'm hearing. It's only one floor and might be smaller than Space. Not sure of the clientale but I would imagine its locals since this is in their neighborhood.
So I'm hearing that the clubs downtown are not the same as they use to be. I hear there is a club outside the center called Androgeno Latin Club that has picked up the Delirium mantel. They have the hip-hop crowd now. But that club is not in a good neighborhood, so I expect to hear that gringos will be getting robbed or stuck up from there. I heard if you want to go there, make sure you have a guide. The rules for the girls are that only girls that have worked at Delirium are allowed to enter. I'm not sure how much taxis are charging yet but I imagine they can charge anything now cause you will want to leave that neighborhood as fast as you can.
I heard that the Space crowd may be going to a club called Terazza 47. That is also outside the walled city, closer to Caribe Plaza mall, from what I'm hearing. It's only one floor and might be smaller than Space. Not sure of the clientale but I would imagine its locals since this is in their neighborhood.Heard the same and saw some WA and Insta stories. Been there last time 2021. People should be much more careful there as in centro. Is Paraiso del Marino still open?
So the scene is just going back to the rougher places. I will check that out in 3 Weeks.
So I'm hearing that the clubs downtown are not the same as they use to be. I hear there is a club outside the center called Androgeno Latin Club that has picked up the Delirium mantel. They have the hip-hop crowd now. But that club is not in a good neighborhood, so I expect to hear that gringos will be getting robbed or stuck up from there. I heard if you want to go there, make sure you have a guide. The rules for the girls are that only girls that have worked at Delirium are allowed to enter. I'm not sure how much taxis are charging yet but I imagine they can charge anything now cause you will want to leave that neighborhood as fast as you can.
I heard that the Space crowd may be going to a club called Terazza 47. That is also outside the walled city, closer to Caribe Plaza mall, from what I'm hearing. It's only one floor and might be smaller than Space. Not sure of the clientale but I would imagine its locals since this is in their neighborhood.Good heads up. Still need a direct replacement of Dolce Vitas quality, volume, and transparency.
Black Page
02-01-24, 18:04
I am in city right in these days. All clubs known for girls are closed, but regular nightlife is the same as before.
All the area around Clock Tower is closed by police barricades, and not only the square inside, but also the whole area outside the wall in front, until almost the road. There are only 2 or 3 passages, where staff monitors people passing by. This makes very unconvenient to all tourists to walk around and enjoy the place, which is one of main tourist spots. There is a police van in the middle, with blue lights, and another small car, which sometimes begins to play police siren, just to make noise and annoy people.
What is the result of all this? That the number of girls is the same as before, but instead of being gathered in the square they flood all the streets around. In other words, if before puritan people was bothered by seeing 50 sexy girls standing in the square, now people see the same girls but walking all around, in a radius of say 3-4 blocks. Basically, the Alcalde acted as the one who sees dust on the floor and thinks to clean by spreading it all around the house. In addition, he ruined the experience to all those tourists who like to roam the city just to enjoy the place. I also noticed less Venezolanas, which is a pity.
Personally, I like it more than before (except the barricades, which are a true nonsense, and having less girls from Venezuela). I never liked to see all that puteria in front of reloy. Now I can observe the same girls by walking around and approach them if I wish, but not all together. More relaxed. I do not have to speak with one while all others look at me.
One last word: after midnight or 1 am, nobody bothers anymore, and the passages are left open, so girls enter the square and walk or stand, mixed with regular tourists.
HumpyDumpty11
02-01-24, 19:12
That the number of girls is the same as before, but instead of being gathered in the square they flood all the streets around. In other words, if before puritan people was bothered by seeing 50 sexy girls standing in the square, now people see the same girls but walking all around, in a radius of say 3-4 blocks. When you say the number of girls is the same, does that number include the girls that would normally be inside the clubs?
Black Page
02-01-24, 19:30
When you say the number of girls is the same, does that number include the girls that would normally be inside the clubs?I do not understand this question. Are you serious? Do you think I keep the daily record of girls on an Excel file?
To me, the clubs are not an issue. Clubs are not casas where girls stay resident. The same girls, who I was used to see at Reloj around 23, later were trying their luck in Space or Imperium or etc. , then going in and out until time to call the night. I assume now it is better, because girls now have no place to "hide" and are all out on display. Yesterday I have seen a small group flirting with random guys at Eivissa. If a girl has the money to pay drinks, then the clubs are many and all full of people.
I am in city right in these days. All clubs known for girls are closed, but regular nightlife is the same as before.
All the area around Clock Tower is closed by police barricades, and not only the square inside, but also the whole area outside the wall in front, until almost the road. There are only 2 or 3 passages, where staff monitors people passing by. This makes very unconvenient to all tourists to walk around and enjoy the place, which is one of main tourist spots. There is a police van in the middle, with blue lights, and another small car, which sometimes begins to play police siren, just to make noise and annoy people.
What is the result of all this? That the number of girls is the same as before, but instead of being gathered in the square they flood all the streets around. In other words, if before puritan people was bothered by seeing 50 sexy girls standing in the square, now people see the same girls but walking all around, in a radius of say 3-4 blocks. Basically, the Alcalde acted as the one who sees dust on the floor and thinks to clean by spreading it all around the house. In addition, he ruined the experience to all those tourists who like to roam the city just to enjoy the place. I also noticed less Venezolanas, which is a pity.
Personally, I like it more than before (except the barricades, which are a true nonsense, and having less girls from Venezuela). I never liked to see all that puteria in front of reloy. Now I can observe the same girls by walking around and approach them if I wish, but not all together. More relaxed. I do not have to speak with one while all others look at me.
One last word: after midnight or 1 am, nobody bothers anymore, and the passages are left open, so girls enter the square and walk or stand, mixed with regular tourists.That's what you guys get for electing a left-wing Petro Liberal as the alcalde. In Medellin we elected a conservative and the first thing he did was remove all the barricades that were put in place by his liberal predecessor Quintero. Things are back to normal in Medellin once again but with a slightly heavier police presence but open without barricades.
Also I've started to notice more vennies from Cartagena are now in Medellin working plaza botero, I fucked one last week a 21 year old vennie who told me she usually works in Cartagena.
Elvis 2008
02-03-24, 22:07
All the area around Clock Tower is closed by police barricades, and not only the square inside, but also the whole area outside the wall in front, until almost the road. There are only 2 or 3 passages, where staff monitors people passing by. This makes very unconvenient to all tourists to walk around and enjoy the place, which is one of main tourist spots. There is a police van in the middle, with blue lights, and another small car, which sometimes begins to play police siren, just to make noise and annoy people.
What is the result of all this? That the number of girls is the same as before, but instead of being gathered in the square they flood all the streets around. In other words, if before puritan people was bothered by seeing 50 sexy girls standing in the square, now people see the same girls but walking all around, in a radius of say 3-4 blocks. Basically, the Alcalde acted as the one who sees dust on the floor and thinks to clean by spreading it all around the house. In addition, he ruined the experience to all those tourists who like to roam the city just to enjoy the place. I also noticed less Venezolanas, which is a pity.I was out at night but not that late and saw the barricades of which you spoke. I only saw one woman who gave off the hooker vibe. We were walking around the city and went to a restaurant called Marea's that was fantastic. They had a chocolate soufflé / volcano desert to die for.
But before we got to the restaurant, we passed the area where the new Four Seasons is being built. Here is what I read on line:
On completion, the hotel will showcase interiors designed by Francois Catroux and Wimberly Interiors, and comprise 131 guest rooms including a 4,200 sq ft Royal Suite and 3,500 sq ft Presidential Suite. The hotel's architectural design was led by WATG.
Facilities here will include six AvroKO-designed indoor and outdoor drinking and dining concepts, plus an atrium lounge at the heart of Club Cartagena. Moreover, a rooftop pool will provide views of the ancient walled city and Cartagena Bay, and guests will be able to make use of a pool bar and grill, cabanas and daybeds. A signature Four Seasons spa and fitness centre will cater for all of guests' wellbeing needs.
These hotel amenities will be complemented by 16,000 sq ft of event space and 16 private residences, which come with personalised Four Seasons service.
End of link. I am not sure you can see the ground level area of the clock tower from the Four Seasons site, but you can easily see the clock tower itself. Point is this hotel is going to be huge for the city of Cartagena and the mayor as far as capturing fees and property taxes, and I do not see Marriott, which runs the Four Seasons, putting up with hookers in view from their hotel.
My guess is the hookers will have to keep moving or maybe even go under ground.
This is just a quick update.
Disclaimer I was only in Centro for 2 nights. A Wednesday night and a Sunday Night so take this small report with a grain of salt.
Finishing off my 3 week stay, I must say Santa Martha is just so much peaceful if you're walking. If you're driving, the random stray dogs laying in the middle of the street and random people riding pedal bicycles in the middle of the main roads is frustrating.
For Cartagena. Its nothing anyone hasn't already known but the blockades are up totally blocking off the clock tower and strategically placed blocking off certain streets. The street where Delirium is located was blocked, the street where Dolce and Space is was also blocked, only foot traffic and horse carriages were allowed. No cars hardly any people.
On Wednesday my girl and I were walking to the usual Townhouse when she spotted an Arcade machine in the lobby and she wanted to play. If you're into MAME Emulation it has over 20 games stored, from what I recall Mortal Kombat 1, 2, Bloody Roar, Tekken 1, 2, Street Fighter 1, 2, ETC. She kicked my ass in Bloody Roar and MK2, those joysticks suck, the UP direction hardly registers can't even do a hadokun cause down to forward does not register correctly.
We were not allowed to enter the clocktower area from the LH Hotel side and they made us walk around. Once we did we were only allowed to enter the clock tower area from the right side by the Control Point tent. They set up a whole outdoor movie show there and cleared out all the girls. Pickings were slim, this was like getting the leftover after all the good ones are gone. Girls were standing by the LH Hotel but 1 by 1 no groups.
Left to go to another area for a week and returned to Centro on Sunday.
Back to Centro. We grabbed some frozen Hand Grenades from Fubar, them shits is strong, and walked around a bit. Streets were very empty with only a hand full of girls. All 3 main clubs still closed. I did run into a few girls I knew who were walking around looking for customers and they told me most girls are now at Pico Rojo or BocaGrande, or at the rooftop bar above Clock Town Pub, for now not much is happening inside the walls. They also told me Alchemico was closed, which was surprising as that's not one of the obviously known working girls club.
I stayed in Marbella, Quiet area as I remember, when we arrived my girl didn't want to stay in the Airbnb I booked because that's the corner where the guy was killed who didn't want to give up the chain a few months ago so I ended up booking across the street at Marina Club which made no difference to me but she sees one brother got popped she thinks I'm going to get popped too SMH. Where they have 24 armed security, they got some shinny ass chrome shotguns so she felt safe. Also looks like there is allot of high rise construction happening in the Torices barrio across the bridge.
I'm leaving out allot such as what I saw at the airport, went to pick up my boy and when that LATAM flight landed behind his understood where the loudmouth sistas came from on my last trip because they were doing the same. Screaming all in the guys face who handled the bags. This is just sad now.
See attached pictures below from my perspective if the power that be allow them all to post.
Black Page
02-05-24, 18:28
Disclaimer I was only in Centro for 2 nights. A Wednesday night and a Sunday Night so take this small report with a grain of salt.
For Cartagena. Its nothing anyone hasn't already known but the blockades are up totally blocking off the clock tower and strategically placed blocking off certain streets..Nypher, I always read with interest your notes.
I have been there Tuesday through Friday (4 nights). I think this matter is highly subjective, so let me add my impressions.
We were not allowed to enter the clocktower area from the LH Hotel side and they made us walk around. Once we did we were only allowed to enter the clock tower area from the right side by the Control Point tent. They set up a whole outdoor movie show there and cleared out all the girls. Pickings were slim, this was like getting the leftover after all the good ones are gone. Girls were standing by the LH Hotel but 1 by 1 no groups.Confirmed, but the point is that, if the goal was to clear out all girls, what they try to do is to clear out all people from the whole square after 10-11 pm or so (after they finish the pathetic family show, for which they have built a stage with theatre-style chairs in front).
They do not stop any girl or people to enter, but the entrances are narrow and limited to 2-3 points. No girl is stopped at the gates, but ALL PEOPLE is discouraged to enter (2 narrow gates) and to stay. The small police electric car was playing the ear-splitting siren continuously after midnight (is there no regulation against making noise at night?) without any other purpose if not annoying people and impeding them to relax. I am saying MINUTES without interruption, then again. This makes ears to pain and makes difficult to stay, simply stated. Now and then police comes and requests people sitting on benches to move. You know the "no loitering" warning in the USA?
Those poor ambulant guys were still trying to play music, but their sound was overwhelmed by the siren. Still, they obstinately continued to play, trying to be stronger than odds.
Now, if I can understand the logic of "push prostitutes away", I miss the logic of making the central area deserted after 11 am by "push ALL PEOPLE away", which is what they try to do. With no success, however, because the square is still with many people and many girls, but nobody stops in group. Everyone keeps on walking around (do you know damned souls in Dante's Inferno?). I did speak with many girls in the square. The problem is that they never stop walking, ahah.
However, after 1 am police leaves and the square becomes a relaxed place again, although the barricades allow only those few entry points.
The street where Delirium is located was blocked, the street where Dolce and Space is was also blocked, only foot traffic and horse carriages were allowed. No cars hardly any people. (...) They also told me Alchemico was closed, which was surprising as that's not one of the obviously known working girls club.
(...)Streets were very empty with only a hand full of girls.
See attached pictures below from my perspective if the power that be allow them all to post.Fortunately for Cartagena, my impression here is totally different. The streets around are not empty, actually packed of tourists (and girls are there). I do not know when you took those photos.
Alquimico (not Alchemico) is so packed that people queues out and fills up the street. The Street of Imperio, Dolce, Space is full, and it probably where the density of girls is highest. They keep on walking around the area, circling back and forth. Well, maybe we visited at different times. I was used to roam from 11 pm to 2 am (before, I wish to enjoy a good dinner).
Girls cannot solicit in the Square, then they roam around in groups in a radius of 3-4 blocks. I did not see less girls than last November, my first visit after COVID. I saw a lot of girls, of all shapes and looks, but not all together. They are spread all around.
Good job for Mr. Alcalde. As I wrote before, he acted as the one who sees dust on the floor and thinks to clean by spreading it all around the house. In addition, he ruined the experience to all those tourists who just wish to enjoy the place after 10 pm (oh yes, good kids go to bed at 9 pm).
Overall, I am happy of my visit to Cartagena, in spite of these efforts to kill nightlife. I had a different girl every night, with experiences ranging from "OK, but I will not repeat" to "Why did I not repeat?? Damn me!". Paid from 350 to 400, including tips over what agreed initially, for girls in range 19 to 25. I strictly avoid silicon and "wannabe-model" types, so I always spend hours in making the selection, and I prefer "unprofessional service".
The negative point is that almosts all girls above some threshold of beauty and hotness now seem adamantine in offering service "todo con condom" period, including oral, which to me is a stopper. Almost all those girls speak professionally as in an industry, too professionally to my eyes. Standard fee by those girls is 350 for 1 hour, or 250 but with interesting options with adicional. Only some of them allowed natural oral, and they were the only ones I did consider. Years ago, it was easier for me to find GFE with girls around the streets of CTG.
Around Bocagrande and Laguito there are a few interesting girls, but less than in Centro, and however mostly from late afteroon until not very late in the night.
I would be happy if I could be back soon.
Nypher, I always read with interest your notes.
I have been there Tuesday through Friday (4 nights). I think this matter is highly subjective, so let me add my impressions..Photos were taken between 10:30 PM and 11 PM on a Sunday night and Wednesday night.
I added the disclaimer for context because there be some people weighing in on the conversation and once others start questioning their "experience" we come to find out their information is way outdated because they have not not been to the place in months or years, they are going to the places at the wrong times or days such as people back in their hotel rooms at 8 PM or out there on a Monday night giving reports making people think its Friday night at 11 PM. Hell, even in the WhatsApp groups we got people weighing in on conversations and after a few questions come to find out their passport been expired for years or they don't even have a passport. Lmfao.
I had more photos to show how empty the streets were but the powers that be won't let them post. Numerous times I've posted pictures and some how they all don't get posted For example one of the photos where I showed 2 guitars talking to 2 working girls by the barricades didn't get posted, it was showing the back of the guys heads but the girls faces.
Same thing when I tried to post the pictures the chicas sent me from Princesita (glass table smash chica) point of view she had sent to other girls in a group.
Now I just mostly link to YouTube videos or news articles since the information is already public.
I'll be back there in a few months.
Black Page
02-06-24, 19:12
Photos were taken between 10:30 PM and 11 PM on a Sunday night and Wednesday night.It's amazing then. Maybe Sunday is empty, but on Wednesday 31 January streets were full of night tourists (those who go out for clubbing) and lots of working girls.
However, a point to make clear is that last November I have never been a patron of Dolce Vita, I went to Space only at 1 am or 2 am if streets were lonely, and I entered Delirium only once, to run away after 30 seconds after having looked around, as soon as I felt more in a bar of New Orleans patronized by the local hip-hop black community rather than in Cartagena. My scene is outdoor. I like to see girls and approach only very few of them, if something calls my attention.
(It was different many years ago, when my favourite hunting place was Elektra. Oh! I miss Elektra!! To me, the best place in Cartagena.)
In a nutshell, I would say that Mr. Alcalde made me a favour by pushing all girls out of the clubs converting them in street walkers, as I can see what is available by roaming around instead of entering 4 clubs one after the other, if it wasn't that I REALLY HATE the barricades and the police sirens, designed to the sole purpose of pushing PEOPLE (not just the girls) away from the square. A square is meant to be lived by people. Benches are meant to have people sitting and relaxing.
Still, the square was not empty. There is almost the usual number of people, and many girls. The difference is that nobody loiters in a place, but everyone keeps on walking around. LOL. Mr. Alcalde wants girls keep their legs fit. I do admire the ambulant folks with their poor instruments playing music trying to get tips from tourists in the square, while the police siren keeps on splitting the ears of everyone. Still, they stand and play music, overwhelmed but not entirely covered by the siren.
Eszpresszo
02-06-24, 20:21
I do not understand this question. Are you serious? Do you think I keep the daily record of girls on an Excel file?
To me, the clubs are not an issue. Clubs are not casas where girls stay resident. The same girls, who I was used to see at Reloj around 23, later were trying their luck in Space or Imperium or etc. , then going in and out until time to call the night. I assume now it is better, because girls now have no place to "hide" and are all out on display. Yesterday I have seen a small group flirting with random guys at Eivissa. If a girl has the money to pay drinks, then the clubs are many and all full of people.Mr. Black Page,
I see you are as snarky as ever. But, I thought you lived in "Europe", so you could drink wine? Did you up and decide to move to Colombia?
Traveler3345
02-14-24, 21:39
Can't believe this thread has no action in a week. Guess it's the same as the city. LOL.
I'm hearing reports that the center might be getting to some points of normalcy. I hear cops ain't bothering girls as much as before. But still hearing mixed views about the clubs in el centro. Some say open, some say closed. And Androgeno is the main spot now outside the center. It has 2 main rooms. One for hip hop, one for reggaeton.
Not trying to promote anybody, but I am hoping Tubers will pump out actual video evidence of the scene especially in this tumultuous time. Prior to the shutdown, Dolce was so reliable.
KBS Travels posted a walk thru of the clubs street view. Allegedly 2024 and you can see barriers. A fair amount of street walkers that are obvious pros and attractive and not just the usual clock tower hoodrats. The annoying thing about the walkthru Tubers tho is that they're not always truthful, reposting a night later in the year claiming its current. One funny encounter was a tuber accidently recorded another tuber who posted the same night and there was a date discrepancy. So take the videos with a grain of salt. A lot will also click bait & paywall only to be the same video in higher resolution.
I texted 1 one of my Dolce Vennies and she confirmed that while the 3 clubs are closed there are others like Andromeda & some lounge / clubs girls are being discrete in, but the bulk of the hot Dolce type of girls aren't going to Andro. She could be saying that so dissuade me from her competition.
If you're in CAR for 1+ weeks then you can play the online, civvy game. But for new people coming in cold I would wait 1-2 months for the high volume high quality spots. Ethnic Thematic was a cheap crappy girl friendly hotel that's strength was 1 half a block from the clubs. It would suck to end up staying there only to do 20 min Ubers fingers crossed that Andro was decent.
Not trying to promote anybody, but I am hoping Tubers will pump out actual video evidence of the scene especially in this tumultuous time. Prior to the shutdown, Dolce was so reliable.
KBS Travels posted a walk thru of the clubs street view. Allegedly 2024 and you can see barriers. A fair amount of street walkers that are obvious pros and attractive and not just the usual clock tower hoodrats. The annoying thing about the walkthru Tubers tho is that they're not always truthful, reposting a night later in the year claiming its current. One funny encounter was a tuber accidently recorded another tuber who posted the same night and there was a date discrepancy. So take the videos with a grain of salt. A lot will also click bait & paywall only to be the same video in higher resolution..Pickings are slim in that KBS video from today. There was only 1 girl I saw who is my ideal type, and it was the one at 12:10 and 18:38 in the black top and burgundy pants. Natural, cute, no crazy BBL or xylophone ribcage. I love when a girl dresses somewhat normal and I can just pull her off the street and we can go anywhere for the night without the extreme noticeable obvious what she's doing.
The girl at 11:23 long black dress and sleeve tattoo. I think that's the same girl who was beating another girls ass outside of space back in October. Jajaja.
I see bro at 14:03 still didn't get the memo about the damn chain but to each his own.
As for locating the Dolce girls.
I can assure you majority of Dolce girls arent going to be in Androgeno as that place does not attract their ideal clientele. When we think about it, Dolce girls are mostly plastic surgery with inflated tits, ass and lips. The type of men who are attracted to these type of women are not going to be found in Bosque at Androgeno, so the girls arent going there. Those girls are now going to Tinder, Hinge, and Instagram while gambling their sugar daddies don't catch them on there. Jajaja.
The women in Androgeno are the ones from Delirium and Space and everybody knows the type of clientele they attract. One of my Delurium girls send me a video and I couldn't believe they were in there with gold chains and big shiny watches but from what she told me there are taxis outside waiting to take gringos back to the tourist area so its "safe". I'm good on Bosque.
The majority of my girls are no longer going to the clubs or streets. They figured out how to sit their asses at home and have gringos send them money or go to Medellin for the weekends to make money. I would say give the apps a try. The majority of girls I have in my circle were from Tinder and I could count on 1 hand the number of girls I met in the clubs who I still link up with to this day since I started going about 6 years ago.
Before I forget, Playa Hollywood is still untouched so mongers can hunt there in the daytime and try it out. If they like it then call it back for the night. Sunday being the best day to do it, I know someone is going to say "its a family day at the beach so they aint no working girls there on a Sunday" but trust me family or no family the girls are still there working at Kiosk#4.
And them annoying ass begging little kids too so their is that annoyance.
Were all adapting to the changes, but most current information are in the whatapp and discord groups where they can post things and send things directly to each other without the powers that be censoring.
DandyMan51
02-15-24, 09:33
I'm currently in Pasto doing some tourism but have been considering going to Cartagena or Bogota. I've been to Bogota before and have liked it. Plenty of hot girls through GFE and OWO was limited. Is there any value in going to Cartagena with everything going on right now. I usually do online game and massage places but occasionally go to clubs. Have gotten plenty of tinder matches in Cartagena from what I assume are working girls. But I'm not sure if it is worth going or if I should just spend an extra week in Bogota. Is there sufficiemt quality and service from these girls to make the trip and what is the going rate for an hour? For overnight?
I'm currently in Pasto doing some tourism but have been considering going to Cartagena or Bogota. I've been to Bogota before and have liked it. Plenty of hot girls through GFE and OWO was limited. Is there any value in going to Cartagena with everything going on right now. I usually do online game and massage places but occasionally go to clubs. Have gotten plenty of tinder matches in Cartagena from what I assume are working girls. But I'm not sure if it is worth going or if I should just spend an extra week in Bogota. Is there sufficiemt quality and service from these girls to make the trip and what is the going rate for an hour? For overnight?IMHO, NO. I haven't been back to CTG in about a year, but from what I've read about the crack down at the Reloj and the crazy inflated prices the chicas ask for? Why bother? Stick to BOG and the low cost Santa Fe hood. Though I do miss the wonderful fresh ocean seafood of CTG. Luvchicas,
IMHO, NO. I haven't been back to CTG in about a year, but from what I've read about the crack down at the Reloj and the crazy inflated prices the chicas ask for? Why bother? Stick to BOG and the low cost Santa Fe hood. Though I do miss the wonderful fresh ocean seafood of CTG. Luvchicas,Why bother is right. Lodging is 2-4 x expensive for outdated apartments or overpriced hotels. The beaches are garbage. It's nice being next to the ocean and the city itself can be exciting. I mean it's got the only downtown worth visiting in Colombia, that's for sure. But once you've done it a few times, no reason to go back. I didn't really find the girl prices crazy more expensive, especially if we're comparing to Parque Lleras, but in general everything is more costly there, and you're more likely to get ripped off as a newbie too.
I'm currently in Pasto doing some tourism but have been considering going to Cartagena or Bogota. I've been to Bogota before and have liked it. Plenty of hot girls through GFE and OWO was limited. Is there any value in going to Cartagena with everything going on right now. I usually do online game and massage places but occasionally go to clubs. Have gotten plenty of tinder matches in Cartagena from what I assume are working girls. But I'm not sure if it is worth going or if I should just spend an extra week in Bogota. Is there sufficiemt quality and service from these girls to make the trip and what is the going rate for an hour? For overnight?If you "usually do online game and massages" and you already have plenty of hot matches in Cartagena then what's currently happening in the Centro will not affect your usual M O.
If you "occasionally go to clubs" the clubs are still there for you to go to it's just that the main 3 known working girls clubes are closed. The girls are now more spread out. They have moved to Bocagrande and outside the walls.
In regards to "sufficient quality and service" no body knows what type of "girls" your into and the type of service you want from them so all that will be 100% subjective based on your own personal preference.
I can suggest watch some recent street walking nightlife videos of Cartagena and make your decision from there. Also make sure to only use recent information. Don't be that person getting outdated pre Titan24 or pre pandemic information thinking it still applies today. Many things have changed but once you adapt you can adjust your experience.
Why bother is right. Lodging is 2-4 x expensive for outdated apartments or overpriced hotels. The beaches are garbage. It's nice being next to the ocean and the city itself can be exciting. I mean it's got the only downtown worth visiting in Colombia, that's for sure. But once you've done it a few times, no reason to go back. I didn't really find the girl prices crazy more expensive, especially if we're comparing to Parque Lleras, but in general everything is more costly there, and you're more likely to get ripped off as a newbie too.Yeah I don't advise it. Cartagena strength to me was it clubs, which are relatively safe with plenty nearby hotels. Short Uber ride from the Uber ride. Way more girls than customers, you really didn't have to compete too much. Now that the clubs / girls are decentralized, the hottest club girls have seemed to scatter its more effort if you're more an on site mongerer than an online game one.
Now I do feel you could still find some gems. The recent YouTube vid did have 10 or so girls I felt were on the 8-9 range, and less dudes than usual. Since they don't want to be walking around all night vs the comfort of a club and free drinks from guys the girls I imagine will be easy to isolate and negotiate. Even on a crazy weekend I just stick to 2 or 3 new girls and go wild with them all trip and repeat them during day.
In current situation I'd suggest Bogota Santa Fe, it's established but yeah sketchy but with rare passport bros prices are fair as well as higher volume. Medellins there too but requires more finesse.
Mr Enternational
02-16-24, 04:44
In current situation I'd suggest Bogota Santa Fe, it's established but yeah sketchy but with rare passport bros prices are fair as well as higher volume. Medellins there too but requires more finesse.Don't send mfs to Bogota to fuck shit up the way they did in Sosua, Cartagena, Medellin, etc. Bogota is much too dangerous and there is no beach. Stay away!
PerkinWarbeck
02-16-24, 15:04
Can't believe this thread has no action in a week. Guess it's the same as the city. LOL.
I'm hearing reports that the center might be getting to some points of normalcy. I hear cops ain't bothering girls as much as before. But still hearing mixed views about the clubs in el centro. Some say open, some say closed. And Androgeno is the main spot now outside the center. It has 2 main rooms. One for hip hop, one for reggaeton.After around 9 PM, they don't even bother regulating who comes in or out the square. The entrance to the clock tower on the street is unmanned.
High season is over. They may get strict again around Semana Santa when a ton of Colombian tourists pour in, but I'the say the coast is clear. I was in Centro with my girlfriend for Valentine's Day, and when we left there were a handful of working ladies standing around in the square. Police couldn't be bothered.
PerkinWarbeck
02-16-24, 15:11
A fellow poster DM'the me a question, but I couldn't respond. I'll post it here.
His question was whether it was better to bring a girl he already knows or find one here.
The answer is always bring the girl you know. Trying to find GFE here on short notice is difficult. The girls do not know you and will just be looking to earn a quick buck. If you have a girl you already have chemistry with, bring her. All Colombian women would love an all expenses paid trip to Cartagena. The attractions are set up for couples. Take her on the tourist sites (Castillo San Felipe, Conventa De La Popa, Totumo). Take her for a few nights to a resort in Baru and do the aquarium and aviary. Do the things you'the reserve for a serious girlfriend, and it won't feel like a transaction. It'll be like a honeymoon, and that is an incredible experience.
Tiepolo2002
02-18-24, 16:54
A fellow poster DM'the me a question, but I couldn't respond. I'll post it here.
His question was whether it was better to bring a girl he already knows or find one here.
The answer is always bring the girl you know. Trying to find GFE here on short notice is difficult. The girls do not know you and will just be looking to earn a quick buck. If you have a girl you already have chemistry with, bring her. All Colombian women would love an all expenses paid trip to Cartagena. The attractions are set up for couples. Take her on the tourist sites (Castillo San Felipe, Conventa De La Popa, Totumo). Take her for a few nights to a resort in Baru and do the aquarium and aviary. Do the things you'the reserve for a serious girlfriend, and it won't feel like a transaction. It'll be like a honeymoon, and that is an incredible experience.Dears,
I fully agree with the opinion above. Cartagena is a lot of hit and miss, a lot of random girls from Venezuela looking for quick money and move on to the next guy with full pockets.
I personally had only mixed or negative experiences in Cartagena, unless I brought my short-timed GF there.
BTW I will be back in ten days or so, I live in Panama so it is a quick 45' flight to be there in Bocagrande. Cartagena has its special vibe, but it far from organized and clean.
But I still love to be there every now and so.
BigButtDetecto
02-19-24, 02:38
Don't send mfs to Bogota to fuck shit up the way they did in Sosua, Cartagena, Medellin, etc. Bogota is much too dangerous and there is no beach. Stay away!Yes I agree 100% thanks.
Don't send mfs to Bogota to fuck shit up the way they did in Sosua, Cartagena, Medellin, etc. Bogota is much too dangerous and there is no beach. Stay away!Medellin isn't fucked up, just poblado is.
Elvis 2008
02-19-24, 04:41
His question was whether it was better to bring a girl he already knows or find one here.
The answer is always bring the girl you know. Trying to find GFE here on short notice is difficult. The girls do not know you and will just be looking to earn a quick buck. If you have a girl you already have chemistry with, bring her. All Colombian women would love an all expenses paid trip to Cartagena. The attractions are set up for couples. Take her on the tourist sites (Castillo San Felipe, Conventa De La Popa, Totumo). Take her for a few nights to a resort in Baru and do the aquarium and aviary. Do the things you'the reserve for a serious girlfriend, and it won't feel like a transaction. It'll be like a honeymoon, and that is an incredible experience.I agree. I think it works out like I am in Cartagena like one week out of every five or six and unlike a lot of other places in Colombia, you would think with a city with so much tourism the woman would be stunning, but they really are not.
I was in La Isla in Medellin for one night and saw three women in the 9-10 class, and they were better looking than any other women I have seen in Cartagena my gal excluded. I paid one of those La Isla gals 300,000 COP in the club, got her number, and saw her outside the club for the same price. I am sure she would have been down for a trip to Cartagena. Only thing I would add is that it might have been twice the fun if she had a friend.
I just do not see a lot of women in Cartagena that are head turners. My gal's daughter has some cute friends that will probably blossom into real beauties, but I do not think her friends are going to stay there. She is kicking ass in school and says it is way easier than school was in Bogota. I got the impression from her that going to college in Cartagena is like going to school at Arizona State or Miami where education is at best #2 on the list of reasons for people going there. The vibe she gave off is if you are not going to college in Bogota or Medellin you are not taking your education seriously.
And then there is the cost. Rent at my place has gone from $600 per month to $900 per month. How is a young person supposed to afford Cartagena? Unless you are in the tourism business, and how many people are really doing well in that business who are not at the top, a young person probably is not going to have a nice life in Cartagena.
PerkinWarbeck
02-19-24, 14:54
I agree. I think it works out like I am in Cartagena like one week out of every five or six and unlike a lot of other places in Colombia, you would think with a city with so much tourism the woman would be stunning, but they really are not.
I was in La Isla in Medellin for one night and saw three women in the 9-10 class, and they were better looking than any other women I have seen in Cartagena my gal excluded. I paid one of those La Isla gals 300,000 COP in the club, got her number, and saw her outside the club for the same price. I am sure she would have been down for a trip to Cartagena. Only thing I would add is that it might have been twice the fun if she had a friend.
I just do not see a lot of women in Cartagena that are head turners. My gal's daughter has some cute friends that will probably blossom into real beauties, but I do not think her friends are going to stay there. She is kicking ass in school and says it is way easier than school was in Bogota. I got the impression from her that going to college in Cartagena is like going to school at Arizona State or Miami where education is at best #2 on the list of reasons for people going there. The vibe she gave off is if you are not going to college in Bogota or Medellin you are not taking your education seriously.
And then there is the cost. Rent at my place has gone from $600 per month to $900 per month. How is a young person supposed to afford Cartagena? Unless you are in the tourism business, and how many people are really doing well in that business who are not at the top, a young person probably is not going to have a nice life in Cartagena.I see some absolutely stunning girls at my gym. I just saw a few this morning. The problem with Cartagena is that normal girls have no real reason to be in the tourist zones unless they are working (either at a hotel, restaurant, or the sex trade), and so the only girls tourists see usually are the working ladies. I sometimes go do combat drills at a gym near Castellana, and I was smiling ear to ear every couple of minutes at some of the princesses walking by.
Cartagena has some good universities. Universidad Cartagena and UTB are good schools. Most kids can't afford them though, so they have to go to these vocational programs to get a license in English or take some business classes. Even worse, there isn't much in the way of industry in the city outside of tourism, so wages absolutely suck. Imagine making 1. 2 M COP a month after busting your behind in school for years. Just awful. So most girls will live at home until they save enough with their boyfriend to move out or live in the bad barrios on the edge of the city with a friend.
Or, the best looking girls who work close to tourists will snag a European who will invite them back with him, and that's how they escape. I know 4 girls who did it that way.
Good reports. I have to get up to Cartagena soon. Not crazy about the beaches, but it's a decent spot to chill out for a weekend. Sounds like the club scene is still happening, despite all the chatter about barriers and some restrictions.
Elvis 2008
02-20-24, 18:26
I see some absolutely stunning girls at my gym. I just saw a few this morning. The problem with Cartagena is that normal girls have no real reason to be in the tourist zones unless they are working (either at a hotel, restaurant, or the sex trade), and so the only girls tourists see usually are the working ladies. I sometimes go do combat drills at a gym near Castellana, and I was smiling ear to ear every couple of minutes at some of the princesses walking by.Yeah, now that you mention there are a few hotties every time I go to the gym. We go to the Bodytech in Caribe Plaza, and there are a few hotties working out there all the time. And there were a few beauties sunning themselves outside our complex near the pool. They were stunningly hot.
But still it is not Medellin or Bogota or even Barranquilla where the hot women are so plentiful it is if they grow on trees. I saw more hot women in a few nights in Barranquilla than the months I have been in Cartagena. For real.
YounGun3393
02-20-24, 23:27
Anyone ever tried those massage girls on the streets of el centro? Prices are high ish but they look good tho. I'm weak for a good massage by a baddie so wondering if there was anything to report. First night here so want to get a feel of things with all the changes the mayor supposedly made.
Black Page
02-21-24, 13:11
After around 9 PM, they don't even bother regulating who comes in or out the square. The entrance to the clock tower on the street is unmanned.
High season is over. They may get strict again around Semana Santa when a ton of Colombian tourists pour in, but I'the say the coast is clear. I was in Centro with my girlfriend for Valentine's Day, and when we left there were a handful of working ladies standing around in the square. Police couldn't be bothered.It was 1am just 3 weeks ago, now it's 9pm already. Things are evolving back to normal quickly, LOL!
I am very happy to hear that. Hopefully barriers will disappear well before I return. About the clubs, I could not care less of places as Delirium or Space (but I miss the *old* Space as it was before COVID, ya).
PerkinWarbeck
02-21-24, 13:51
Anyone ever tried those massage girls on the streets of el centro? Prices are high ish but they look good tho. I'm weak for a good massage by a baddie so wondering if there was anything to report. First night here so want to get a feel of things with all the changes the mayor supposedly made.Those are thinly veiled brothels. They will give you a massage and you can be sure extras are on the table. Get her WhatsApp number, so you can meet her outside of the spa later.
For a real massage, I swear by Plenitud. I go once a month because I'm lifting heavy at the gym. Good girls. Professional. I did get one girl's WhatsApp number, so I'm sure you could go a different way if you wanted.
PerkinWarbeck
02-21-24, 13:55
Yeah, now that you mention there are a few hotties every time I go to the gym. We go to the Bodytech in Caribe Plaza, and there are a few hotties working out there all the time. And there were a few beauties sunning themselves outside our complex near the pool. They were stunningly hot.
But still it is not Medellin or Bogota or even Barranquilla where the hot women are so plentiful it is if they grow on trees. I saw more hot women in a few nights in Barranquilla than the months I have been in Cartagena. For real.Those cities are a lot bigger with more industry, so they get people from all over the country in addition to way more Venezuelan migrants. If you leave the tourist zones, you will be hard pressed to find someone from Cali or even from somewhere close like Valledupar. Cartagena is expensive and doesn't have a lot of jobs. Why would anyone move there?
It was 1am just 3 weeks ago, now it's 9pm already. Things are evolving back to normal quickly, LOL!
I am very happy to hear that. Hopefully barriers will disappear well before I return. About the clubs, I could not care less of places as Delirium or Space (but I miss the *old* Space as it was before COVID, ya).I just wish Dolce Vita returns or at least their talent Pool with another easy central tourist location. I never was pressured to buy drinks there, always struggled to decide between which of 15 beauties I wanted to take home, and the vibe was less ghetto than Delirium (I'm in Atlanta, I'm sick of it at home).
It seems the YouTube walkthru vids have plenty of hot chicas walking the club streets, but with vague dates, unclear times, and editing its impossible to know what the whole talent Pool is.
Hey guys,
I was wondering if it's possible to have a vacation girlfriend that you can do everything with (including sex without a condom) and where is it easy to find her?
Hey guys,
I was wondering if it's possible to have a vacation girlfriend that you can do everything with (including sex without a condom) and where is it easy to find her?Are you fluent in Spanish? When I went I contacted a fellow monger and he was very nice to set me up with a pretty girl. We went for dinner but from that point friendliness went south. Firstly the girl my friend knew brought the young girl to my hotel 2 hours late. On chatting the girl asked me what I liked to do. Since it was my first time I wanted to take in the sights. She was not interested. She wanted me to take private boat if one of her contacts for whole day of boating and cost was exorbitant. I wanted a quiet Asian type of subservient girl to go with the flow. Cartagena girls are not into that. They are all about money, money, and more money. Even if you shell out lots of money unless you live in Cartagena you will not be able to find sweet GF relationship. That is the impression I got. I did meet some down to earth older girl who I had fun with but beauty wise nothing to write home about.
When you stay 24/7 you need a pleasant companion. Otherwise it is a torture.
I have had very good GFE relationships in Sosua, Costa Rica, Colombia talking about Spanish girls. My Spanish is American Spanish which is a mix. Many do not understand. It is better to find a girl knowing at least passable English to have conversation with.
PerkinWarbeck
02-23-24, 17:44
Hey guys,
I was wondering if it's possible to have a vacation girlfriend that you can do everything with (including sex without a condom) and where is it easy to find her?Yes. It is 100% possible, but you will need to do the work once you arrive. Do not agree to this type of arrangement before hand. You need to feel the girl out (physically and mentally) to be sure she is what you want.
If you want to do this, you will need at least 7 days.
1. Hopefully you get super lucky and the first girl you try from Tinder or from Centro will click with you right away. She'll kiss you like a lover and have sex without a condom. And most importantly, she will be very submissive and pleasing. It's very unlikely you'll get this right away, so you will need to try a few girls. Let's say you get lucky on Day 2 and fight a girl who has the look and behavior.
2. Let her go home and let your horniness die down. Approach the girl by WhatsApp and ask.
"Quieres ser mi novecita por un rato? She will obviously reply yes, but remember to do your homework before. What do you want to do on vacation? Ask her if she wants to spend the days with you doing the tourist stuff (Castillo San Felipe, Conventa De La Popa, Totumo Mud Volcano, etc). See if she wants to go to Islas Del Rosario or Baru for a few nights (the girls absolutely love this).
3. Negotiate.
If the girl is a true pro, she'll respond, "cuanto me pagas? I would never pay a muchacha more than 500 k per day for something like this. 500 k pesos is an insane amount of money to earn per day for these girls. I'the start lower at 300 k and let her negotiate up. Anything above 500 k, tell her "no gracias" and don't respond. She'll come slinking back to you in a few hours to accept. That's a gold mine for her.
4. Stay firm with the girl. They all think foreigners are stupid or at least naive, so she'll try to test you. Either by asking for more with some BS excuse or using a bad attitude to get you to acquiesce to her demands. Be prepared to walk away at all times, and the girl will fold.
You have all the negotiating leverage here: there are lots of girls who would love to be wifed up, the amount of money paid is a huge win for them, and they likely have debts or things they want / need to buy. You are in control here. Stay cool and stay in control.
Enjoy yourself!
Yes. It is 100% possible, but you will need to do the work once you arrive. Do not agree to this type of arrangement before hand. You need to feel the girl out (physically and mentally) to be sure she is what you want.
If you want to do this, you will need at least 7 days.
1. Hopefully you get super lucky and the first girl you try from Tinder or from Centro will click with you right away. She'll kiss you like a lover and have sex without a condom. And most importantly, she will be very submissive and pleasing. It's very unlikely you'll get this right away, so you will need to try a few girls. Let's say you get lucky on Day 2 and fight a girl who has the look and behavior.
2. Let her go home and let your horniness die down. Approach the girl by WhatsApp and ask.
"Quieres ser mi novecita por un rato? She will obviously reply yes, but remember to do your homework before. What do you want to do on vacation? Ask her if she wants to spend the days with you doing the tourist stuff (Castillo San Felipe, Conventa De La Popa, Totumo Mud Volcano, etc). See if she wants to go to Islas Del Rosario or Baru for a few nights (the girls absolutely love this).
3. Negotiate.
If the girl is a true pro, she'll respond, "cuanto me pagas? I would never pay a muchacha more than 500 k per day for something like this. 500 k pesos is an insane amount of money to earn per day for these girls. I'the start lower at 300 k and let her negotiate up. Anything above 500 k, tell her "no gracias" and don't respond. She'll come slinking back to you in a few hours to accept. That's a gold mine for her.
4. Stay firm with the girl. They all think foreigners are stupid or at least naive, so she'll try to test you. Either by asking for more with some BS excuse or using a bad attitude to get you to acquiesce to her demands. Be prepared to walk away at all times, and the girl will fold.
You have all the negotiating leverage here: there are lots of girls who would love to be wifed up, the amount of money paid is a huge win for them, and they likely have debts or things they want / need to buy. You are in control here. Stay cool and stay in control.
Enjoy yourself!Excellent advice clearly from an experienced veteran. Yes wifing up with the right girl with whom you have good chemistry both in and out of bed, and taking them on vacation is a win / win situation with the right girls. Start with an amanacer sleep-over for a test run before you take the plunge and fly somewhere with her. Remember you will be pretty much spending 24 hours a day together, which can be great or could be very uncomfortable.
Yes. It is 100% possible, but you will need to do the work once you arrive. Do not agree to this type of arrangement before hand. You need to feel the girl out (physically and mentally) to be sure she is what you want.
If you want to do this, you will need at least 7 days.
1. Hopefully you get super lucky and the first girl you try from Tinder or from Centro will click with you right away. She'll kiss you like a lover and have sex without a condom. And most importantly, she will be very submissive and pleasing. It's very unlikely you'll get this right away, so you will need to try a few girls. Let's say you get lucky on Day 2 and fight a girl who has the look and behavior.
2. Let her go home and let your horniness die down. Approach the girl by WhatsApp and ask.
"Quieres ser mi novecita por un rato? She will obviously reply yes, but remember to do your homework before. What do you want to do on vacation? Ask her if she wants to spend the days with you doing the tourist stuff (Castillo San Felipe, Conventa De La Popa, Totumo Mud Volcano, etc). See if she wants to go to Islas Del Rosario or Baru for a few nights (the girls absolutely love this).
3. Negotiate.
If the girl is a true pro, she'll respond, "cuanto me pagas? I would never pay a muchacha more than 500 k per day for something like this. 500 k pesos is an insane amount of money to earn per day for these girls. I'the start lower at 300 k and let her negotiate up. Anything above 500 k, tell her "no gracias" and don't respond. She'll come slinking back to you in a few hours to accept. That's a gold mine for her.
4. Stay firm with the girl. They all think foreigners are stupid or at least naive, so she'll try to test you. Either by asking for more with some BS excuse or using a bad attitude to get you to acquiesce to her demands. Be prepared to walk away at all times, and the girl will fold.
You have all the negotiating leverage here: there are lots of girls who would love to be wifed up, the amount of money paid is a huge win for them, and they likely have debts or things they want / need to buy. You are in control here. Stay cool and stay in control.
Enjoy yourself!Thanks for all the advice 😉128521;128521;.
Hey guys,
I was wondering if it's possible to have a vacation girlfriend that you can do everything with (including sex without a condom) and where is it easy to find her?Ok, first you have to be clear with what you want and.
1. How much time to you have? Weekend warrior? A week? 2 Weeks?
2. Type of girl you are looking for? Light / dark? Slim / big? Kids / no kids? Clean skin / tattoos? Manufactured / natural? Young / old?
3. Are you willing to pay to jump to the front of the line?
4. Hows your spanish? Google translate will only get you so far before their eyes see you as an ATM.
5. Will your travel time + exchange rate for your local currency be worth it?
6. On the ground Hunter or point and click from the couch?
Take into consideration you may not have the time to play the stupid game of back and forth hoping that she will bend to your lowball offers when the next gringo who doesn't care about money will just pay whatever to get what they want because their time there is short.
Are you looking for a one trip girl or you're looking for a long term vacation girlfriend who you will see everytime you travel? The reason I ask this is because most people will not tell you that their "vacation girlfriend" is on a retainer. They are sending her money every month to support her and she will be their "girlfriend" when they arrive on vacation. I'm giving you the heads up as I personally know plenty of girls in Colombia, DR and Thailand who have multiple gringo boyfriends sending them money every month to be available when they come. So if you're not in the circle of sending $500 - $1000 a month to put a chica on retainer for vacation girlfriend duties then seek an alternate route. We have allot of guys in the whatsapp groups getting dunked on because gringos are posting pictures of chicas who are their GFE on retainer and other gringo will come along and post pictures of them with the same girl and post a picture of the conversation showing that $$ chica on retainer for one gringo was only 200 MIL or 1000 Bhat a pop for the next gringo.
Type of girl you are looking for will be 100% subjective to only your desires. To elaborate, if you're into Instagram model looking type girls don't expect the girl who spent $$ getting the fat transferred from her stomach to her ass, installed some huge bolt-ONS and pumped up her lips to take a low ball offer or play the waiting game. She can instantly get someone else paying more and your time will be wasted getting something you don't want from the clearance bin. Many individuals with tell stories of how easy they got a girl to do what they want for cheap but they will never show you what that girl looks like and its for a very good reason. Or the reverse they will tell stories of GFE they had but somehow forget to mention how much the total expense was including taking her shopping, paying her directly, and paying for any other activities such as day trips. We have allot of guys in the whatsapp groups getting dunked on because they saying they got girls for cheap and when they finally post a picture of the girl, these girls are build like French door refrigerators or a paper bag is needed.
Do you want to walk around and find these girls or perfer a website or app where they will post heavily photoshopped, catfish and might ask for prepayment "to see if you are really interested"? The scams I've been hearing lately is sounding like gringos are setting up fake profiles on these dating apps and scamming other gringos.
Whats the ceiling of your budget are you willing to pay a Chica for the hour? Night? Day? All this comes into consideration as you don't want to be the gringo getting a glass table broken because he didn't want to pay the $150 or 600 MIL per day rate and try to pull Sosua tactics by trying to lowball at the end of the day. Know what your limit is and work with it.
Don't be that person taking advice from some Military Vet on the internet telling you about "game" and "prices" then once you get enough information about them you learn that their information is from 10 years ago while they were in the military having the government pay for everything so they can floss a luxury lifestyle to attract women.
The final and most important advice I can provide. Do not use anyone's advice as step by step instructions. Use their advice as a guideline on how to make your decisions and always ask the important questions so you can compare their experience to your expected experience. For example a weekend millionaire will not have the same experience as someone who live there for an extended period of time. A Monger who runs through 2-3 girls a day at an hour at a time will not have the same experience as someone staying with the same girl for months or years.
Take all information with a grain of salt, and I do mean all information, including post history including mine, youtuber doing consultations, whatsapp chat groups and facebook groups (the most toxic).
Since your new, don't get scammed, don't do any prepayments, don't send them money for a taxi or boletto just tell them you will repay them. And Just a heads up, do not fuck the girls over by standing them up or try to cheat them by paying less because you didn't like the service, they will dox you by dropping screenshots in their chica group chat of your contact info and all your social media accounts. I was added to one a while back and the shit that I see posted in there is organized, like I wondering how the fuck these girls are getting clear pictures of the gringo state IDs and passports to post in the whatsapp groups.
I made alot of mistakes and posted my experience so others don't end up with the bad experiences I encountered.
I wish you the best and stay safe.
Don't be that person taking advice from some Military Vet on the internet telling you about "game" and "prices" then once you get enough information about them you learn that their information is from 10 years ago while they were in the military having the government pay for everything so they can floss a luxury lifestyle to attract women.
Military Vets have done much more travelling than civilians, and generally are more helpful. If they would take a bullet for their country, they will help another brother.
Ok, first you have to be clear with what you want and.
Type of girl you are looking for will be 100% subjective to only your desires. To elaborate, if you're into Instagram model looking type girls don't expect the girl who spent $$ getting the fat transferred from her stomach to her ass, installed some huge bolt-ONS and pumped up her lips to take a low ball offer or play the waiting game. She can instantly get someone else paying more and your time will be wasted getting something you don't want from the clearance bin. Many individuals with tell stories of how easy they got a girl to do what they want for cheap but they will never show you what that girl looks like and its for a very good reason. Or the reverse they will tell stories of GFE they had but somehow forget to mention how much the total expense was including taking her shopping, paying her directly, and paying for any other activities such as day trips. We have allot of guys in the whatsapp groups getting dunked on because they saying they got girls for cheap and when they finally post a picture of the girl, these girls are build like French door refrigerators or a paper bag is needed.
.This is a very good post. I'm very grateful you posted this. Good advice.
LOL French door refrigerators.
I've been mongering for a while a now and I will say that I've changed what I'm attracted to now.
I used to be an ass guy. But now that I've gained more experience I've become a boobs guy. Fake. Natural. Don't care. Covered sex does nothing for me. Only if she has boobs will I feel anything. Or if she's skinny with a fake ass. But mostly boobs.
What really attracts me tho. Aside from anything physical, is absolute submissiveness. I love that. Had a skinny girl in Medellin. Omega flat In all aspects but she was so submissive she was so attractive. I love it.
I've also noticed that these women have problems like a lot of problems. Most have kids and that's why they are p2 p. Or there's just something off about their personalities where they are either head strong or the opposite of submissive. It's nasty. The higher the body count I've noticed the worse it is. Lower bodycount and they are very nice.
I think as acquire more resources where I can buy higher and higher quality women, I might not go for the best looks. I might not go for a girl that already has a fake ass and fake tits or that looks just naturally very good. It seems like these women come with problems over a longer time horizon than a short term nightly encounter.
I might just go for that girl next door that's skinny, low bodycount, and submissive, but with a very attractive face and then just buy her boobs and a fake ass and just Make her my long term "girlfriend". Hopefully she doesn't leave after me spending 10 k for all that.
What do you guys think is the feasibility of such endeavor?
Elvis 2008
02-25-24, 01:11
Are you looking for a one trip girl or you're looking for a long term vacation girlfriend who you will see everytime you travel? The reason I ask this is because most people will not tell you that their "vacation girlfriend" is on a retainer. They are sending her money every month to support her and she will be their "girlfriend" when they arrive on vacation. I'm giving you the heads up as I personally know plenty of girls in Colombia, DR and Thailand who have multiple gringo boyfriends sending them money every month to be available when they come. So if you're not in the circle of sending $500 - $1000 a month to put a chica on retainer for vacation girlfriend duties then seek an alternate route. We have allot of guys in the whatsapp groups getting dunked on because gringos are posting pictures of chicas who are their GFE on retainer and other gringo will come along and post pictures of them with the same girl and post a picture of the conversation showing that $$ chica on retainer for one gringo was only 200 MIL or 1000 Bhat a pop for the next gringo.
Type of girl you are looking for will be 100% subjective to only your desires. To elaborate, if you're into Instagram model looking type girls don't expect the girl who spent $$ getting the fat transferred from her stomach to her ass, installed some huge bolt-ONS and pumped up her lips to take a low ball offer or play the waiting game. She can instantly get someone else paying more and your time will be wasted getting something you don't want from the clearance bin. Many individuals with tell stories of how easy they got a girl to do what they want for cheap but they will never show you what that girl looks like and its for a very good reason. Or the reverse they will tell stories of GFE they had but somehow forget to mention how much the total expense was including taking her shopping, paying her directly, and paying for any other activities such as day trips. We have allot of guys in the whatsapp groups getting dunked on because they saying they got girls for cheap and when they finally post a picture of the girl, these girls are build like French door refrigerators or a paper bag is needed.
Don't be that person taking advice from some Military Vet on the internet telling you about "game" and "prices" then once you get enough information about them you learn that their information is from 10 years ago while they were in the military having the government pay for everything so they can floss a luxury lifestyle to attract women.
I made alot of mistakes and posted my experience so others don't end up with the bad experiences I encountered.
I wish you the best and stay safe.Best post I have read in a long, long time. I like dropping the knowledge but the humility at the end. God, I cannot stand the assholes who swear they hit a home run every time they get up to bat. To me, it is like skiing. If you are not failing and falling at times, you are not learning.
I have said in the Bogota and Medellin forum I had to double what the prices were to get close to what I was asked to pay. Of course, I only fucked attractive women. I could have had pigs if I wanted. Funny thing was Woodman who knows Bogota like no one else came in and called a few guys out bragging about how low they were paying in Santa Fe.
This should be a post of distinction.
Military Vets have done much more travelling than civilians, and generally are more helpful. If they would take a bullet for their country, they will help another brother.That's completely irrelevant to the point I was trying to make.
What my comment boils down to is Vets giving information to a country that they have not been to in 10 years.
If the information isn't recent then it's worthless. It would be the equivalent of someone telling a fresh gringo to go to Space, Dolce, Delirium to find chicas then the gringo goes there tomorrow and find the clubs are closed. Then that fresh gringo finds out that person who gave the information haven't been to Cartagena since the Pandemic.
Similar happened to me when these old heads were talking about Boca Chica in DR like they were just there last week. Then when I get there I find everything moved to Sosua. That's why I say, get recent info not "back in my day" stories.
Mr Enternational
02-25-24, 07:28
Military Vets have done much more travelling than civilians, and generally are more helpful. If they would take a bullet for their country, they will help another brother.I am a military vet and I would beg to differ. First, if you are in a branch other than the navy, then chances are your military traveling will be limited to Korea, Germany, or Japan, unless you count a war zone and we know what few those have been in the past 20 years. In the Navy, if you have sea duty then your boat may stop at different ports. And even then you are not subject to visit a ton of countries, but still more than other branches.
Second, the people that join the military to "take a bullet for their country" are few and far between. That endeavor would mean nothing since you will actually be taking the bullet for the interest of corporations that have elected government officials in their pocket. To most people the military is simply just a job.
Mr Enternational
02-25-24, 07:43
What my comment boils down to is Vets giving information to a country that they have not been to in 10 years.
Similar happened to me when these old heads were talking about Boca Chica in DR like they were just there last week. Then when I get there I find everything moved to Sosua. That's why I say, get recent info not "back in my day" stories.That is funny. My first 2 times in DR in 2006 Boca Chica was poppin. There were some beautiful girls there and they were cheap. 1000 pesos and a chick would stay with you all night. After that, the place fell right off a cliff. These days I only go to Boca Chica from Santo Domingo during the day to go to the beach or hang out with friends. As mongering is concerned, I literally have not seen a pretty girl there in well over 10 years. There are not even many chicks there. On any given night when the freaks come out, there are never any more than 10 chicks. And 9 and a half of those I would not fuck with Elvis's dick.
Elvis 2008
02-26-24, 04:45
And 9 and a half of those I would not fuck with Elvis's dick.So now looks matter? You are many things Mr. E but consistent is not one of them.
And you do not need to worry about my dick. If I found out I had fucked any of the so called "average looking" women you had been with, I would cut it off.
Traveler3345
02-26-24, 19:30
Just got back from cartagena so I'll report what I can remember about the state if el centro.
I was in el centro every night from Tues night to sat night. Tues night was slow as hell in el centro. Streets was practically empty. Not many girls walking around. Things picked up Wed and Thurs to be in full bloom Friday and Sat night.
So it appears the girls are not really being harassed by the cops anymore. Guys are talking to the girls right in front of the police most times. Most cops don't give a fuck what is going on, then you have those hard-asses who are trying to make a name for themselves I guess and they keep telling the girls to move on. One cop I noticed would only tells the girls to move. There could be a group of gringos standing right next one or two girls and he would only tell the girls to keep walking. But for the most part, the girls are walking the blocks where the clubs are. Most of the police concentration was on the street with Alquimico and Monkey Bar. Cops would post up outside every night. One night all the cops disappeared at 2 am as soon as Alquimico closed. There was a heavy police presence this weekend. I would say that the cops were situated outside of any club that was open. Alquimico, Monkey Bar, Mondo, VSOP, XO and El Pa'quin (I think I fucked up this name though). There was some military presence, but I think that was because the mayor was in el centro that night.
Anyway, I can say that on Fri and Sat night, there was some really nice talent walking around. Some I would even say worked out of DV. But there was a lack of guys for sure. It wasn't the amount that I'm use to seeing. The kids are for the most part gone, I did see a few but there were where the police were not. The rappers are still in the city during the day and night. Guess the mayor failed to stop that. The horse carriages are still in the city, guess the mayor failed on that too.
The girls can enter the clock tower plaza but they can't stand around there. They would walk there and see who standing around. There didn't appear to be any restriction to the direction you can walk down any street.
I went to Androgeno on Wed night just to see what it was like. I wasn't impressed at all. Only the from room was available. They are still working on the 2nd latin room. But it was the same Delirium girls in there. I heard Fri and Sat were the worst. It was wall to wall packed and you can barely move. Glad I didn't see that. But hey some people like those spaces with all those people in one crapped area. I didn't check out Terraza 47 (Rooftop 47) which is suppose to the Space equivalent outside of the center. I have seen videos and it looks nice but it has nothing but tables and couches. I don't see too much of a standing area in case you didn't want to buy a table. But from the looks of it, it looks way better that Androgeno in case you wanted to place that looks nice to go to.
I will say this: There are no girls to find in the clubs in el centro! . So please don't go with your crew thinking it was anything like last year or earlier. I'm watching groups go in the clubs all excited to be disappointed when they exit 10 min later asking where the girls. I said, oh you have been following what is going on since the start of the year? Jajaja The current open clubs are sausage-fest unless a guy brings a girl with them. But even then there is no guarantee she will get inside if she's dressed to much like a puta. I saw a fine girl get rejected and dumb guy goes inside with his group dumping her. 10 min later he comes out looking for her after realizing there was nothing inside. LOL. We were all dying laughing, me, my guide brother and some of the other guides. They were joking as this guy was running down the street trying to find the girl again.
I went to Hollywood beach on Thurs. I would say that the ratio might have been more guys to girls that day. For some reason, not all the girls in the city go to the beach and I was told that's because they can't spend money needed to be at the beach just to give a guy a number and never get that callback. It starts to get too expensive over a weeks time if she doesn't work. But there was some nice ones out that day. I heard Friday was a lot of people but I don't know if it was more guys that girls or vice versa.
I'll try to remember more if I can. This trip was filled with up and downs and fucking close calls to getting stuck in a fucked up situation but nothing that threatened my life or safety.
I'll add this, speaking Spanish does open a few small doors even with the locals (I call anyone living there local, Colombians and Venezuelans). My spanish isn't intermediate according to me, but they tell me they understand me and it's better than most they normally hear. I realize when I'm high, I seem to understand what they are saying much better. I was listening to whole conversations and laughing with them.
I'll try to remember more if I can.Did you pork any WGs and if so, how much did it cost?
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