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Just got back from cartagena so I'll report what I can remember about the state if el centro.
I was in el centro every night from Tues night to sat night. Tues night was slow as hell in el centro. Streets was practically empty. Not many girls walking around. Things picked up Wed and Thurs to be in full bloom Friday and Sat night.
So it appears the girls are not really being harassed by the cops anymore. Guys are talking to the girls right in front of the police most times. Most cops don't give a fuck what is going on, then you have those hard-asses who are trying to make a name for themselves I guess and they keep telling the girls to move on. One cop I noticed would only tells the girls to move. There could be a group of gringos standing right next one or two girls and he would only tell the girls to keep walking. But for the most part, the girls are walking the blocks where the clubs are. Most of the police concentration was on the street with Alquimico and Monkey Bar. Cops would post up outside every night. One night all the cops disappeared at 2 am as soon as Alquimico closed. There was a heavy police presence this weekend. I would say that the cops were situated outside of any club that was open. Alquimico, Monkey Bar, Mondo, VSOP, XO and El Pa'quin (I think I fucked up this name though). There was some military presence, but I think that was because the mayor was in el centro that night.
Anyway, I can say that on Fri and Sat night, there was some really nice talent walking around. Some I would even say worked out of DV. But there was a lack of guys for sure. It wasn't the amount that I'm use to seeing. The kids are for the most part gone, I did see a few but there were where the police were not. The rappers are still in the city during the day and night. Guess the mayor failed to stop that. The horse carriages are still in the city, guess the mayor failed on that too.
The girls can enter the clock tower plaza but they can't stand around there. They would walk there and see who standing around. There didn't appear to be any restriction to the direction you can walk down any street.
I went to Androgeno on Wed night just to see what it was like. I wasn't impressed at all. Only the from room was available. They are still working on the 2nd latin room. But it was the same Delirium girls in there. I heard Fri and Sat were the worst. It was wall to wall packed and you can barely move. Glad I didn't see that. But hey some people like those spaces with all those people in one crapped area. I didn't check out Terraza 47 (Rooftop 47) which is suppose to the Space equivalent outside of the center. I have seen videos and it looks nice but it has nothing but tables and couches. I don't see too much of a standing area in case you didn't want to buy a table. But from the looks of it, it looks way better that Androgeno in case you wanted to place that looks nice to go to.
I will say this: There are no girls to find in the clubs in el centro! . So please don't go with your crew thinking it was anything like last year or earlier. I'm watching groups go in the clubs all excited to be disappointed when they exit 10 min later asking where the girls. I said, oh you have been following what is going on since the start of the year? Jajaja The current open clubs are sausage-fest unless a guy brings a girl with them. But even then there is no guarantee she will get inside if she's dressed to much like a puta. I saw a fine girl get rejected and dumb guy goes inside with his group dumping her. 10 min later he comes out looking for her after realizing there was nothing inside. LOL. We were all dying laughing, me, my guide brother and some of the other guides. They were joking as this guy was running down the street trying to find the girl again.
I went to Hollywood beach on Thurs. I would say that the ratio might have been more guys to girls that day. For some reason, not all the girls in the city go to the beach and I was told that's because they can't spend money needed to be at the beach just to give a guy a number and never get that callback. It starts to get too expensive over a weeks time if she doesn't work. But there was some nice ones out that day. I heard Friday was a lot of people but I don't know if it was more guys that girls or vice versa.
I'll try to remember more if I can. This trip was filled with up and downs and fucking close calls to getting stuck in a fucked up situation but nothing that threatened my life or safety.
I'll add this, speaking Spanish does open a few small doors even with the locals (I call anyone living there local, Colombians and Venezuelans). My spanish isn't intermediate according to me, but they tell me they understand me and it's better than most they normally hear. I realize when I'm high, I seem to understand what they are saying much better. I was listening to whole conversations and laughing with them.Thank you for update. It's a shame Dolce is still closed, always 15-20 genuine babes to check out for free. I'm sure some Dolce level girls may prowl the streets still, but the hottest ones seemed to like the discretion of being inside. Still even a wild trip I only need 2 maybe 3 amazing girls so while volume is low hopefully the top end of talent is still there.
Less guys, and the street walking being less comfortable for girls probably makes it even easier to get better prices. It wasn't too hard to get 300 k-400 k cop with top Dolce girls, so I'd like to think 250-300 K is possible if everything goes right.
Did you pork any WGs and if so, how much did it cost?I with people would stop asking these kinds of vague questions in public. Take it to PMs.
What exactly does the answer to your question accomplish?
Think about it.
Do you know Traveler3345 type of chica?
Do you think their type of chica will be your type of chica?
Do you think Traveler3345 is going to post a picture of the chica and provide the price so people can see looks to price ratio?
Do you think Traveler3345 is going to tell you all services they paid for once that bedroom door closed?
Do you think one chicas price is the standard for all mongers?
Traveler3345
02-27-24, 18:45
Did you pork any WGs and if so, how much did it cost?I had someone with me this whole trip so I didn't really partake. The only one I did partake was cause the girl I was with wanted to watch me fuck another girl. She negotiated that from money she had. She won't tell me the price though.
Less guys, and the street walking being less comfortable for girls probably makes it even easier to get better prices. It wasn't too hard to get 300 k-400 k cop with top Dolce girls, so I'd like to think 250-300 K is possible if everything goes right.You are right. I saw countless girls sitting down in the streets rubbing their feet. I can imagine everyday in just sandals for hours has got to be painful especially when they are not used to it. But my amiga told me girls are taking way less than normal because of the street competition and less guys. So 200 -300 k may not be a bad figure to try and work with. Start at the low end. Ain't no girl going to walk away from just for a guy offering 200 k. Now you might have to settle for no BBBJ with that 200 k price though. Might be a dealbreaker for some guys.
Traveler3345
02-28-24, 14:47
I with people would stop asking these kinds of vague questions in public. Take it to PMs.
What exactly does the answer to your question accomplish?
Think about it.
Do you know Traveler3345 type of chica?
Do you think their type of chica will be your type of chica?
Do you think Traveler3345 is going to post a picture of the chica and provide the price so people can see looks to price ratio?
Do you think Traveler3345 is going to tell you all services they paid for once that bedroom door closed?
Do you think one chicas price is the standard for all mongers?Thanks for the defense. But you are right. I pondered how to answer that question but I couldn't. There is so much that goes into trying to answer that question anymore. Maybe a few years ago it would have been easy, but things have changed that shuck up the market in Cartagena over the years. Prices vary based on people's situations. I'll say this much, locals pay under 100 K, and taxi drivers get it for free cause they take the girls where they need to go when the girl has no money.
It was just nice to see that people were out and about doing the business they needed to do in the streets without too much police interference. Only thing left now is for the clubs to open and no say how long that will take. I saw the owner of Space arguing with police officers. He kept telling them that they were clowns and puppets in a stupid game that would produce no results. Shit will go back to the way it was. He was cursing at them and I guess they couldn't do nothing about it. I waited 15 min to see what would happen than I left.
Thanks for the defense. But you are right. I pondered how to answer that question but I couldn't. There is so much that goes into trying to answer that question anymore. Maybe a few years ago it would have been easy, but things have changed that shuck up the market in Cartagena over the years. Prices vary based on people's situations. I'll say this much, locals pay under 100 K, and taxi drivers get it for free cause they take the girls where they need to go when the girl has no money.
It was just nice to see that people were out and about doing the business they needed to do in the streets without too much police interference. Only thing left now is for the clubs to open and no say how long that will take. I saw the owner of Space arguing with police officers. He kept telling them that they were clowns and puppets in a stupid game that would produce no results. Shit will go back to the way it was. He was cursing at them and I guess they couldn't do nothing about it. I waited 15 min to see what would happen than I left.Its the same thing in the Discord groups where someone would post they just got back from Santa Fe and had lots of girls and some random will come along and reply with "how much did you pay?
There's no photos of the girls (age, body type, complexion), no location where they met the girls (calle, Discoteca, tinder) or time of meeting (morning, noon, night), no information on services (BBBJ, anal) but yet they want to know the price someone else paid with zero context of what was paid for jajaja!
As for the girls all out in the open walking around is killing them jaja. They can't hide in the clubs no more.
Many girls don't like walking the streets because they don't want people seeing them or the creep cam youtubers putting them on youtube, its the same with Hollywood Beach. The sugar daddies are watching KBS and cutting them off when they get caught on cam.
Glad you had fun, ill be back there soon, one of my chica says she's going to take me to some big ass Pablo Escobar water park and zoo near Medellin.
Mr Enternational
02-28-24, 16:56
I with people would stop asking these kinds of vague questions in public. Take it to PMs.
Do you think one chicas price is the standard for all mongers?I think the price someone paid is an integral part of the report. Sure someone may not pay the same, but it gives a gauge to go by.
I was in Ethiopia a week and a half ago and because someone wrote prices, them hoes did not get over on me. Someone said do not pay more than $10. One chick tried to get me for $20. I stuck with $10. She hemmed and hawed and went to $15 and $13, but I stuck to the $10 that I saw in the report. Finally, she realized I knew better.
Someone had also written $50 for all night. Why did another chick think she was going to juice me for $100? She said $50 for her and $50 for the boss. Little did she know that I read ISG and I had gotten a message from the boss saying it was $50 total.
We would not even need an ISG without prices. Everyone could just use the old fashion way and jump in a taxi at a random destination and say take me to the girls with no idea of what they could be paying. The first thing I actually look for in a report is the price. Because if it is above a certain amount then I know not to even waste my time going anyway.
I think the price someone paid is an integral part of the report. Sure someone may not pay the same, but it gives a gauge to go by.
I was in Ethiopia a week and a half ago and because someone wrote prices, them hoes did not get over on me. Someone said do not pay more than $10. One chick tried to get me for $20. I stuck with $10. She hemmed and hawed and went to $15 and $13, but I stuck to the $10 that I saw in the report. Finally, she realized I knew better.
Someone had also written $50 for all night. Why did another chick think she was going to juice me for $100? She said $50 for her and $50 for the boss. Little did she know that I read ISG and I had gotten a message from the boss saying it was $50 total.
We would not even need an ISG without prices. Everyone could just use the old fashion way and jump in a taxi at a random destination and say take me to the girls with no idea of what they could be paying. The first thing I actually look for in a report is the price. Because if it is above a certain amount then I know not to even waste my time going anyway.While I understand what you're saying (use price in report in report as a baseline), but without context such as pictures, if that report don't have pictures to show what they got for $10 then you don't know what they got for $10, and I don't know what you got for $10. So someone like me might show up with my $10 looking for women under 120 lb natural with that Cape Verde exotic look expecting to pay $10 and they point me to the girls twice my size shaped like refrigerators with a big fucked-up afro (Eddie Murphy voice) LOL.
I'm that guy who would prefer ordering from a menu with pictures than plain text because then I can see exactly what I'm about to eat LOL.
Mr Enternational
02-29-24, 08:01
While I understand what you're saying (use price in report in report as a baseline), but without context such as pictures, if that report don't have pictures to show what they got for $10 then you don't know what they got for $10, and I don't know what you got for $10. So someone like me might show up with my $10 looking for women under 120 lb natural with that Cape Verde exotic look expecting to pay $10 and they point me to the girls twice my size shaped like refrigerators with a big fucked-up afro (Eddie Murphy voice) LOL.
I'm that guy who would prefer ordering from a menu with pictures than plain text because then I can see exactly what I'm about to eat LOL.Even when you take places like Loutron in Medellin where the chicks may be 450,000 pesos it says nothing as to how the chick looks because there is a broad range of chicks for that same price. You may see the best chick you have seen in your life or the worst chick you have seen in your life, but it is best to know that if you do not bring 450 then you will be fucking neither of them. I am never concerned with how someone else's girl looked because I am going to go pick the one I want. Like we always say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
A buddy of mine is in Thailand now. I was trying to guide him through the process and the prices while I am still vacationing in Africa. After I told him do not pay more than $55 for a chick long time, he went right and paid a chick double that. I said man you fucked up. He was like he had to have her because she was dark and whatever. I said dude those chicks are a dime a dozen. Truth of the matter is that the whiter Chinese looking ones are the ones people tend to pay top money to. The next chick he got he followed my instruction and was happy as a clam. Then of course in true fashion the other chick wants more of her golden goose, but he has now wised up and wants to give her half of last time. She will not go for it. I said prime example of how guys go on the scene and fuck shit up. You gave her that now that is what she expects from you and will expect it from other guys too.
2 of the pics are the Thai chick my buddy paid too much money to and the rest are the $10 chicks in Ethiopia.
Glad you had fun, ill be back there soon, one of my chica says she's going to take me to some big ass Pablo Escobar water park and zoo near Medellin.Casa Napoles. It's half way between Medellin and Bogota. It used to be Pablo Escobar's old country club house. Now it has swimming pools with water slides, zoos, museums, and on site hotels and restaurants. I believe it has aguas termales (hotsprings) nearby too and a famous hippopotamus named Vanessa.
Even when you take places like Loutron in Medellin where the chicks may be 450,000 pesos it says nothing as to how the chick looks because there is a broad range of chicks for that same price. You may see the best chick you have seen in your life or the worst chick you have seen in your life, but it is best to know that if you do not bring 450 then you will be fucking neither of them. I am never concerned with how someone else's girl looked because I am going to go pick the one I want. Like we always say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
A buddy of mine is in Thailand now. I was trying to guide him through the process and the prices while I am still vacationing in Africa. After I told him do not pay more than $55 for a chick long time, he went right and paid a chick double that. I said man you fucked up. He was like he had to have her because she was dark and whatever. I said dude those chicks are a dime a dozen. Truth of the matter is that the whiter Chinese looking ones are the ones people tend to pay top money to. The next chick he got he followed my instruction and was happy as a clam. Then of course in true fashion the other chick wants more of her golden goose, but he has now wised up and wants to give her half of last time. She will not go for it. I said prime example of how guys go on the scene and fuck shit up. You gave her that now that is what she expects from you and will expect it from other guys too.
2 of the pics are the Thai chick my buddy paid too much money to and the rest are the $10 chicks in Ethiopia.Damn you just gave me Pattaya flashbacks when I asked someone where all the cute Thai girls are and the sent me to Hollywood club. Biggest mistake ever for a chocolate man. My boy and looked like someone dropped 2 rasins in elmers glue. Lmao. We got zero attention or girls from that club, they were chasing after the other white Asians in there. But 808, insomnia and Flexxx gave us all the love.
$10? I like that line up. They all in shape and look natural with a sprinkle of innocence especially that top right one in blue.
I can see why people are not freely giving information on them countries on that side of the world like Madagascar and Ethiopia because the degenerates will mess it up with the quickness.
YounGun3393
03-01-24, 09:49
Cartagena setup has def changed from what I read. This is my first time visit there and seeing how it works. Personally I had one mileroticos experience and I won't be doing it again (in CTG at least). Had to drive to some short time love hotel and the girl did not look the part like her pics. Just a quick cum and go experience. Now back to the other adventures.
Clubs / el centro.
As noted most of the main clubs were closed and it's prohibited for girls to lounge in the clock tower as before. You can't even stand there and talk to a girl. You have to walk with them and / or grab their #. After 10 pm there are soooo many girls walking around. There's def talent for sure and I grabbed plenty of digits but couldn't get to all of them. The complicated issue is the lodging. Viajero hotel was a nice find as a short time hotel but I got 2 diff rates on 2 diff nights. 150 k for 1 HR and then 200 k for the night until noon the next day. I guess it depends who is running the front desk. They def do their best to fence off the clock tower area but beyond that there is a 3-4 block radius near El pasquin + Alquimico where there are plenty of options walking around. They have plenty of cops on each corner to make sure you aren't breaking their rules. Just walk and go.
I had 3 diff girls and they were all hotties and they ran me 350 k, 400 k, 400 k. Unfortunately all of them had the added expense with the short time hotel which ranged from 150 k-200 k. 2 were from Venezuela and 1 from Colombia. Def want to bring your condoms too LOL.
Beach.
Another solid alternative was Playa Hollywood. The strip is long and there are many huts but I found that Kiosk #4 is where all the magic happens. It's pretty much the same place you see in the YouTube videos. You just have to be wary of the vendors that want to seat you. They are sharks and have diff menus with diff prices and will charge you for girls to seat with you. I believe they have some sort of arrangement with an agency. I got there around 1 pm but it didn't get packed with honeys till 4 ish. There was plenty of talent. Again, I would make sure you have a place to stay that allows visitors otherwise you got to find a short time hotel which in my case the ladies had one they knew of. I sat with 2 ladies and they each wanted 150 USD for an HR. The cost for them to join you at your beach chair was 60 k on top of the food + drinks. I grabbed their numbers, they were so hot. It's best to go to the place directly and try to avoid the vendors. Only annoying thing about the beach were the diff vendors and massage girls. You def want to bring cash.
Massage.
I did indulge in one of those massage girls for men. It's called HOM spa Cartagena. It's pretty much a standard rub and tug spot. You just want to grab one of their numbers while they're advertising on the streets. You give them your WhatsApp and you see the girls available, pick one, and set an appt. I got an appt with Andrea and it was pretty satisfying. 200 k for the HR massage and then she whispered the alternative as I made some "suggestions" for some fun. Gave her 200 k tip for a nude HJ. She was insanely hot with a nice pair of DDs. I grabbed her # to try to get her to come over for FS but no luck. Maybe some of the others offered it. Anyways once was enough for me. Def better than your avg rub and tug from an old provider back home. Massage was great too. Helps that I speak.
All in all I had a blast in CTG. I was there for a wedding so I could not indulge as much as I wanted to but I def had my fun. It's not as open and obvious as MDE and is pricier but there's plenty of fun to be had at night and in the beach.
Cartagena setup has def changed from what I read. This is my first time visit there and seeing how it works. Personally I had one mileroticos experience and I won't be doing it again (in CTG at least). Had to drive to some short time love hotel and the girl did not look the part like her pics. Just a quick cum and go experience. Now back to the other adventures.I've warned people about the websites many times but people like to point and click. I've been catfished too many times with these chicas putting up old pictures before they got pregnant and had a baby or its before crazy weight gain.
Clubs / el centro.
When your total cost of your Centro adventures is calculated, you were paying 500 K - 600 K for 1 pop which is on the high end but we all live and learn.
Beach.
Yes Kiosk #4 is the spot to be but the downside is that its the spot to be, for everyone, including the trans and the gays. At least in Centro you knew if you went into a club they were all women but Kiosk #4. If it looks like a Dolce chick (lots of plastic) then you better ask if they are tucking meat between their legs. And yes you have to be careful because the touts get menus from different restaurants and will give you a different one when the check comes so always take a picture.
Massage.
Those places are rip offs for extras. She basically charged the sex price for a handjob. I've been in the shoes before having the massage in my hotel room and when I asked for extras they threw out $400 like l was in Miami. I put her ass out with the quickness.
Maybe your next trip will be better.
Are you fluent in Spanish? When I went I contacted a fellow monger and he was very nice to set me up with a pretty girl. We went for dinner but from that point friendliness went south. Firstly the girl my friend knew brought the young girl to my hotel 2 hours late. On chatting the girl asked me what I liked to do. Since it was my first time I wanted to take in the sights. She was not interested. She wanted me to take private boat if one of her contacts for whole day of boating and cost was exorbitant. I wanted a quiet Asian type of subservient girl to go with the flow. Cartagena girls are not into that. They are all about money, money, and more money. Even if you shell out lots of money unless you live in Cartagena you will not be able to find sweet GF relationship. That is the impression I got. I did meet some down to earth older girl who I had fun with but beauty wise nothing to write home about.
When you stay 24/7 you need a pleasant companion. Otherwise it is a torture.
I have had very good GFE relationships in Sosua, Costa Rica, Colombia talking about Spanish girls. My Spanish is American Spanish which is a mix. Many do not understand. It is better to find a girl knowing at least passable English to have conversation with.Your inbox is full. Trying to PM you.
YounGun3393
03-02-24, 00:49
Clubs / el centro.
When your total cost of your Centro adventures is calculated, you were paying 500 K - 600 K for 1 pop which is on the high end but we all live and learn.
Beach.
Yes Kiosk #4 is the spot to be but the downside is that its the spot to be, for everyone, including the trans and the gays. At least in Centro you knew if you went into a club they were all women but Kiosk #4. If it looks like a Dolce chick (lots of plastic) then you better ask if they are tucking meat between their legs. And yes you have to be careful because the touts get menus from different restaurants and will give you a different one when the check comes so always take a picture.
Massage.
Those places are rip offs for extras. She basically charged the sex price for a handjob. I've been in the shoes before having the massage in my hotel room and when I asked for extras they threw out $400 like l was in Miami. I put her ass out with the quickness.
Maybe your next trip will be better.Yes the added cost of a hotel def made it pricier but 500-600 k is not that much altogether unless you're cheap and stingy.
Same goes for the massage it was a great massage and it was in el centro. Those prices are more or less expected.
As I stated CTG is def one of, if not the most, priciest in COL. Just make sure you're lodging situation is clear and you'll save $$.
I prefer MDE and would have stayed there if not for the wedding I attended.
I've warned people about the websites many times but people like to point and click. I've been catfished too many times with these chicas putting up old pictures before they got pregnant and had a baby or its before crazy weight gain.
Clubs / el centro.
When your total cost of your Centro adventures is calculated, you were paying 500 K - 600 K for 1 pop which is on the high end but we all live and learn.
Beach.
Yes Kiosk #4 is the spot to be but the downside is that its the spot to be, for everyone, including the trans and the gays. At least in Centro you knew if you went into a club they were all women but Kiosk #4. If it looks like a Dolce chick (lots of plastic) then you better ask if they are tucking meat between their legs. And yes you have to be careful because the touts get menus from different restaurants and will give you a different one when the check comes so always take a picture.
Massage.
Those places are rip offs for extras. She basically charged the sex price for a handjob. I've been in the shoes before having the massage in my hotel room and when I asked for extras they threw out $400 like l was in Miami. I put her ass out with the quickness.
Maybe your next trip will be better.Good points. Never did Hollywood so it's good to know what to watch out for. $150 USD per pop is more than I'm trying to pay in Colombia, but I can understand why some tourists pay that in Cartagena.
Mr Enternational
03-02-24, 12:11
Yes the added cost of a hotel def made it pricier but 500-600 k is not that much altogether unless you're cheap and stingy.That is women's talk in order to try to shame men into doing their bidding. If a woman will not spend 500-600 K on you, does that mean she is cheap and stingy as well, or does she get an excuse? Just because a person would rather pay prices on the level of where they are and not the level of where they come from, does not make them cheap and stingy. It actually makes them a smart shopper. Nobody tries to pull the cheap and stingy line on anything else except for trying to get pussy. If you walked into a car dealership and the salesman tried to sell you ever extra known to man and told you not to be cheap and stingy then you woupd probably have a fit.
Your inbox is full. Trying to PM you.Now it is open.
Good points. Never did Hollywood so it's good to know what to watch out for. $150 USD per pop is more than I'm trying to pay in Colombia, but I can understand why some tourists pay that in Cartagena.That's where the "we all live and learn comes in."
The added cost of the hotel put the price in the range for 2 pops overnight. This is why guest friendly accommodations are essential. I made a similar mistake my first trip and I constantly warn others to stay away from Palmetto Sunset in El Laguito so they don't repeat my mistake.
Found me a new spot. Armed guards outside with shotguns, they don't allow visitors but for $50 - $80 a night for a 2 bedroom with individually attached bathrooms and the ability to register 6 - 8 guests (both rooms usually have that queen bed with another bed that pulls out from under it) its good for a solo traveler.
That is women's talk in order to try to shame men into doing their bidding. If a woman will not spend 500-600 K on you, does that mean she is cheap and stingy as well, or does she get an excuse? Just because a person would rather pay prices on the level of where they are and not the level of where they come from, does not make them cheap and stingy. It actually makes them a smart shopper. Nobody tries to pull the cheap and stingy line on anything else except for trying to get pussy. If you walked into a car dealership and the salesman tried to sell you ever extra known to man and told you not to be cheap and stingy then you woupd probably have a fit.Same thought crossed my mind. If I had a peso for every time a chica called me tacaño LOL. I wish them luck because I know they will find someone happily willing to pay that price.
PerkinWarbeck
03-04-24, 15:27
Brothers, you are paying way too much. Negotiate harder.
Brothers, you are paying way too much. Negotiate harder.Thanks for the advice, but the last time I tried to pay less the woman wasted too much time on my whatsapp, then said she was not interested at my low price. Maybe you are a cheap Charlie and want your women for free. You get what you pay for, often, or you go away with Blue Balls. LOL.
PerkinWarbeck
03-04-24, 22:48
Thanks for the advice, but the last time I tried to pay less the woman wasted too much time on my whatsapp, then said she was not interested at my low price. Maybe you are a cheap Charlie and want your women for free. You get what you pay for, often, or you go away with Blue Balls. LOL.With these muchachas, there is no true correlation between price and service. The girl charging you 400 k pesos for a covered BJ, no kissing, and rushed doggy, will gladly sleep with a man for 150 and offer oral a natural and kissing like a girlfriend.
I feel the need to keep reminding you gents this, but these ladies don't typically earn that much money. The minimum wage in Colombia is 1. 2 MM pesos. Think about that. The hostess at the restaurant, the doorman at your AirBnB, the taxi driver taking you from point A to point be, earn that little typically. Sometimes less.
So put that into perspective when a chica tells you 400 k pesos. She doesn't get that consistently. That's a once in a blue moon type of wage. If it was more common, all the pretty girls in Colombia would just work in Cartagena. So the obvious implication is that she works for much less than that typically, with Colombian men. Men who pay her 150 k (which is still a great wage) for two shots and much better service.
What these girls are relying on is:
1. You believing that their high rates are normal and / or a bargain from rates in the US or Western Europe.
2. You being unwilling to walk away from the negotiation. You mongers have all the negotiating leverage. They need your money more than you need their bodies. There are more girls willing to sell sex than there are men able to buy it. When she quotes a crazy rate like that, WALK AWAY, and find another.
Mr Enternational
03-04-24, 23:06
There are more girls willing to sell sex than there are men able to buy it. When she quotes a crazy rate like that, WALK AWAY, and find another.You heard the man. He does not want to miss out on the pussy so he is willing to pay more.
What these girls are relying on is:
1. You believing that their high rates are normal and / or a bargain from rates in the US or Western Europe.
2. You being unwilling to walk away from the negotiation. You mongers have all the negotiating leverage. They need your money more than you need their bodies. There are more girls willing to sell sex than there are men able to buy it. When she quotes a crazy rate like that, WALK AWAY, and find another.1) It's no secret that people compare prices in Cartagena to what they pay for a lap dance in places like Atlanta. They could give 2 shitz about the market or what the average wage is in Colombia. They have a vacation budget to blow. How many times have guys said they surprisingly went home with money. In other words, they didn't spend their mongering budget. The fact that they budgeted way too much is an after thought. Some even equate how much they spent to how much fun they had.
2) Not sure dudes have all the leverage. She has a gold mine between her legs is how she sees it. All she needs is that one big score. She might also be receiving passive income from Western Union dudes. To most dudes walking around thirsty with a woody, time is more valuable than money because they are on vacation and for many this is the only time they can get any coochie. Girls will go home empty handed because they will eventually find a horny dude willing to pay. Dude ain't trying to spend half his vacation negotiating when he knows he pays 3 times as much for a lap dance back home and his vaca is 5 days. Not even talking about his webcam and Onlyfans expenditures. The thirst is real.
1) It's no secret that people compare prices in Cartagena to what they pay for a lap dance in places like Atlanta. They could give 2 shitz about the market or what the average wage is in Colombia. They have a vacation budget to blow. How many times have guys said they surprisingly went home with money. In other words, they didn't spend their mongering budget. The fact that they budgeted way too much is an after thought. Some even equate how much they spent to how much fun they had.
2) Not sure dudes have all the leverage. She has a gold mine between her legs is how she sees it. All she needs is that one big score. She might also be receiving passive income from Western Union dudes. To most dudes walking around thirsty with a woody, time is more valuable than money because they are on vacation and for many this is the only time they can get any coochie. Girls will go home empty handed because they will eventually find a horny dude willing to pay. Dude ain't trying to spend half his vacation negotiating when he knows he pays 3 times as much for a lap dance back home and his vaca is 5 days. Not even talking about his webcam and Onlyfans expenditures. The thirst is real.I agree with this!
My time is more valuable than a 100 usd. I'd rather get what I want when I want. I don't care if I pay more than the next guy or less than the next guy.
I go out and I pick the girl I want. The girl doesn't pick me.
I dictate exactly what I want and how I want it. She quotes a price and it's MY CHOICE to accept negotiate or whatever.
But here's the thing. I love how the haters say you're ruining it for the rest of us or I'm overpaying.
Last time I checked are we a team? More guys on here would hide their favorite hookers because they don't want to share or think others will overpay.
If someone gives me a recommendation then of course I'm not paying more than he did. Simple as that.
But MY time is much more valuable than a 100 bucks.
Also monger and groups like this board are the big minority compared to weekend warriors.
You can look at a girl and instantly know if she gets big $$ from elsewhere. It's really common sense. The hotter girls will quote high and stand firm. Where I would walk is if she tells me on top of the high price she's only doing CBJ. But if she's hot and taking a facial then I'm paying.
Is going to keep going back and forth and its not going to go anywhere, and its because of missing context.
People are too quick to dismiss another person's experience and replace it with their own expecting them to get the same result when they have no idea what that person is looking for in a woman.
Difference between people who lives there or have a shit ton of time there to find another girl so they can always walk away VS those who are there for a short weekend or limited time and don't want to waste their vacation haggling over price.
And the biggest difference I can think of is, will that gringo find another girl he finds attractive during his limited stay.
When I'm there 2-3 consecutive weeks I have friends who will pop in for a quick weekend adventure and it goes back to one of my previous posts where I said I stopped travelling with certain people and it was due to the type of girls they always look for and they will burn 90% of their trip trying to find a girl while tagging along with my chica and I every night on some third wheel shit. I stopped travelling with guys who only like big women (200 LB+), I stopped travelling with guys who only like older women (30+), I stopped travelling with guys who only like fake tits and ass women (Every damn night they want to go to Dolce and we have to buy a bottle to get in), I stopped travelling with guys who only like white skin women (Burned a whole weekend in CTG because of this), and I stopped travelling with guys who only like dark skin women (Burned a whole weekend in MDE because of this shit).
People value their time and money differently. Some people have more of one than the other, also they type of girl they are looking for, yes there are girls everywhere and they outnumber mongers 5-1 but are they the one the monger find attractive enough to want to spend his money on.
PerkinWarbeck
03-05-24, 13:42
1) It's no secret that people compare prices in Cartagena to what they pay for a lap dance in places like Atlanta. They could give 2 shitz about the market or what the average wage is in Colombia. They have a vacation budget to blow. How many times have guys said they surprisingly went home with money. In other words, they didn't spend their mongering budget. The fact that they budgeted way too much is an after thought. Some even equate how much they spent to how much fun they had.
2) Not sure dudes have all the leverage. She has a gold mine between her legs is how she sees it. All she needs is that one big score. She might also be receiving passive income from Western Union dudes. To most dudes walking around thirsty with a woody, time is more valuable than money because they are on vacation and for many this is the only time they can get any coochie. Girls will go home empty handed because they will eventually find a horny dude willing to pay. Dude ain't trying to spend half his vacation negotiating when he knows he pays 3 times as much for a lap dance back home and his vaca is 5 days. Not even talking about his webcam and Onlyfans expenditures. The thirst is real.Men absolutely have all the leverage because these girls are broke. They don't earn very much and they don't save what they earn. Many of them have children to take care of, and they send the money back to their families. I need to keep emphasizing this: there are not enough men who are willing to pay 400 k pesos for sex for that to be a market clearing price. She knows that. She's relying on you not knowing that.
And you can absolutely be ripped off. That's your prerogative. You paying 3 x the going rate doesn't affect me at, since I don't pay those rates, and never will have to. Girls in Cartagena will have sex for 150 k.
Men absolutely have all the leverage because these girls are broke. They don't earn very much and they don't save what they earn. Many of them have children to take care of, and they send the money back to their families. I need to keep emphasizing this: there are not enough men who are willing to pay 400 k pesos for sex for that to be a market clearing price. She knows that. She's relying on you not knowing that.
And you can absolutely be ripped off. That's your prerogative. You paying 3 x the going rate doesn't affect me at, since I don't pay those rates, and never will have to. Girls in Cartagena will have sex for 150 k.These guys are all simps and professional tricks. They don't even know the real Colombia. If they were concerned about actually getting a real value for their money they wouldn't even be in Cartagena they would be in Cucuta. So let them trick off their money and flash their gold chains (until that catches up with them LOL). Cartagena is basically another Panama City or Sosua now anyways.
Brothers, you are paying way too much. Negotiate harder.Paying WAYYY TO MUCH. These guys are paying 3rd world cookers more money then doctors and lawyers in the United States make and they proudly doing it. It's insanity. But luckily I have some hidden places where gringos don't go so the prices are still great. Yall ruined the hell out of cartagena and sosua though. I'm guessing Thailand next.
Paying WAYYY TO MUCH. These guys are paying 3rd world cookers more money then doctors and lawyers in the United States make and they proudly doing it. It's insanity. But luckily I have some hidden places where gringos don't go so the prices are still great. Yall ruined the hell out of cartagena and sosua though. I'm guessing Thailand next.Thailand been ruined ever since Zoom went over there and started promoting Pattaya as a place to find a wife. Pattaya of all places. Then that Rolling Loud concert kicked things into high gear because them same Sosua mongers that started to ruin Cartagena went over there and messed everything up. Everytime someone brings up getting a Zoom consultation in the travel group they get dunked on because his "girlfriend" is basically on a $125 a week retainer but he constantly promotes her being submissive doing all the housework and cooking, laundry, without him asking. I'm not even going to mention the outrageous prices he charges but as I've said before, the more people I interact with in these circles the more I'm finding it's gringos or military vets scamming and ripping off other gringos overseas to keep themselves afloat while over seas.
Same shit with Travelveristy, when anyone mentions his name to book a consultation they get dunked on too because his "girlfriend" still got that Monger in Asia porn video up.
Same with GameAbroad, stay getting dunked on.
The hot spots in Brazil is going to be to next to go thanks to that Paradise Sosua travel group.
PerkinWarbeck
03-05-24, 18:10
These guys are all simps and professional tricks. They don't even know the real Colombia. If they were concerned about actually getting a real value for their money they wouldn't even be in Cartagena they would be in Cucuta. So let them trick off their money and flash their gold chains (until that catches up with them LOL). Cartagena is basically another Panama City or Sosua now anyways.I don't like insulting other men, especially in this case. I just want guys to get the most value for their dollar / euro, especially here in Colombia, where foreigners get taken advantage of so casually. So you pay 400 k for what another man pays 150 for. The 150 paying gent gets better service (oral a natural & 2 shots), while my foreign brethren pay way more fore pessimistic rushed service. It's just not right.
PerkinWarbeck
03-05-24, 18:20
Paying WAYYY TO MUCH. These guys are paying 3rd world cookers more money then doctors and lawyers in the United States make and they proudly doing it. It's insanity. But luckily I have some hidden places where gringos don't go so the prices are still great. Yall ruined the hell out of cartagena and sosua though. I'm guessing Thailand next.They didn't ruin Cartagena because there aren't enough men to go around. Those prices are not sticky because a muchacha can't afford to let you walk away. It's the difference between paying her rent or buying her son new shoes or not.
Think about it. If 350-400 k pesos was the going rate for short time in Cartagena, why would a Colombian working girl work in Barranquilla, Bogota, or Medellin for 150 k? The city would be flooded with ladies.
Let's put this in perspective. I live here in Cartagena. My girlfriend's dad, a Cartagenero, earns 1. 8 MM pesos a month managing a restaurant in Bocagrande. He's in his late 40's and has been doing this for 13 years. Now imagine earning 1/5 of what he makes for an hour of a girl's time. That sounds absolutely insane. And it is. 400 k pesos is a ridiculous amount of money for the vast majority of Colombians.
Elvis 2008
03-05-24, 19:05
I agree with this!!
My time is more valuable than a 100 usd. I'the rather get what I want when I want. I don't care if I pay more than the next guy or less than the next guy.
I go out and I pick the girl I want. The girl doesn't pick me.
I dictate exactly what I want and how I want it. She quotes a price and it's MY CHOICE to accept negotiate or whatever.
But here's the thing. I love how the haters say you're ruining it for the rest of us or I'm overpaying.
Last time I checked are we a team? More guys on here would hide their favorite hookers because they don't want to share or think others will overpay.
If someone gives me a recommendation then of course I'm not paying more than he did. Simple as that.
But MY time is much more valuable than a 100 bucks.
Also monger and groups like this board are the big minority compared to weekend warriors.
You can look at a girl and instantly know if she gets big $$ from elsewhere. It's really common sense. The hotter girls will quote high and stand firm. Where I would walk is if she tells me on top of the high price she's only doing CBJ. But if she's hot and taking a facial then I'm paying.I am glad there is some push back on this. If I have to hear about how mongers ruined a place, I am going to laugh. Top 5% salary in USA now is $250,000 which is $125 per hour but even that does not do it because a higher percentage of wealthy man travel. So it is probably more like one in ten men who travel to Cartagena is making $125 an hour and above, so $125 or $250 is nothing for them.
A buddy of mine makes the equivalent of $200 per hour and paid $200 for two hours and said it was a top 5 experience for him. Do you think he is going to give up a top 5 experience because of the guys here screaming he is being selfish and messing up the market? I do not think he even knows about the site.
One of the other things these guys do not get is the really hot women have options. I had a breakup with an ex-fiance who had one of the nicest bodies you will ever see. Six pack abs. Crazy strong thighs and worked out like a fiend. After we broke up, she made damned sure she showed me all the American guys pursuing her. Marrying one of them would have not been a problem for her.
The top guys want filet mignon and the guys eating hamburger here, and it is obvious who they are, gripe nonstop about the price of hamburger going up. They claim pussy is pussy and therefore beef is beef. As I have asked so many times, why don't they object to the prices on anything else? Why aren't you making fun of the guys eating filet mignon or staying in the expensive hotels?
My Cartagena apartment was 3 million COP. With the dollar at its peak, that was $600 per month. Now with the weaker peso and the complex raising the price to 3. 5 million COP, it is close to $1000 per month. I guess that is the fault of mongers too even though I have yet to see an American or any foreigner around it.
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Yall ruined the hell out of cartagena and sosua though. I'm guessing Thailand next.Don't forget about Costa Rica.
They didn't ruin Cartagena because there aren't enough men to go around. Those prices are not sticky because a muchacha can't afford to let you walk away. It's the difference between paying her rent or buying her son new shoes or not.
Think about it. If 350-400 k pesos was the going rate for short time in Cartagena, why would a Colombian working girl work in Barranquilla, Bogota, or Medellin for 150 k? The city would be flooded with ladies.
Let's put this in perspective. I live here in Cartagena. My girlfriend's dad, a Cartagenero, earns 1. 8 MM pesos a month managing a restaurant in Bocagrande. He's in his late 40's and has been doing this for 13 years. Now imagine earning 1/5 of what he makes for an hour of a girl's time. That sounds absolutely insane. And it is. 400 k pesos is a ridiculous amount of money for the vast majority of Colombians.Sex workers in all countries including the US are capable of making the average monthly salary on one night. I know strippers pulling in 5-6 k in one shift in NyC. Not even Vegas. Girls charging 1 k an hour getting 3-4 clients.
That's why I never understood this comparison. Sex workers will make a lot more than an average working salary. That's how it's always been. Even at third world rates they can make 2-300 k a night dancing at a strip club that comes to 7-8 million a month.
Fresh back. CTG is done. All the beauties that came from all over have disappeared. Whats left are a bunch of 4th stringers roaming the alleys and streets of Centro. Hollywood beach, average talent. Androgeno, will never go there again. Men outnumbered the 4th stringers 10 to 1 easy. The rapper crowd in Androgeno just not for me and I'm the same ethnicity as most of the folks in there. With Space, Dolce and Delirium closing, alot of the talent has gone elsewhere. Until the clubs open back up, I won't be back. Thos clubs attracted the real talent from all over Colombia from my perspective. The best babe I had concurred and was going to Mexico and other places until things go back to what was normal.
All those musings about prices although sensible don't pass a bar in real life. What do you say to all few Colombians who pay millions to girls over the weekend? Take a closer look in the mirror and ask 'How much would I charge to fuck him?' The same applies to all subpar girls that show up for sex work. And then a rare dolled up beauty at the right hour with all her overhead demands a higher rate and exploits competition. Now it takes me just seconds to approach her and make a reasonable offer. I have never regretted paying a premium. I have regretted not paying it and missing a chance.
There is also a classic piece of verse that sums it up, in a way:
When I was young and had no sense.
In far-off Mandalay.
I lost my heart to a Burmese girl.
As lovely as the day.
Her skin was gold, her hair was jet.
Her teeth were ivory;.
I said, 'for twenty silver pieces.
Maiden, sleep with me'.
She looked at me, so pure, so sad.
The loveliest thing alive.
And in her lisping, virgin voice.
Stood out for twenty-five.
George Orwell.
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Mr Enternational
03-06-24, 05:41
But here's the thing. I love how the haters say you're ruining it for the rest of us or I'm overpaying.Where is the post that guys say this? There is not one. We say you are fucking it up for other guys coming after you, not for ourselves. We already know the deal and how to navigate and are trying to put others on game. You are not fucking it up for us.
I just said the other day how my buddy here in Thailand did not listen and paid the chick $110 because he had to have her. According to you I was hating when I told him that was way too much. She wanted to come back the next day but he wised up and now only wanted to give her half of that but she refused because he had already fucked it up for himself. The day after that she hit him up begging to take the half he was offering. Then he tried to go even lower to what I told him to pay in the first place. I was like man don't play games with the chick. You should have stuck with the price I was telling you from the jump instead of paying 3 times more. But when he first got here he was so excited and horny and that money was burning such a hole in his pocket, that what I said went in one ear and out the other (or maybe he thought I was hating!) Later on, he realized that what I told him was gospel and he did fuck around and overpay when she hit him up begging for the lesser amount.
Guys like me are good and are not going to be hurt. Hell I am in the bed with a free chick right now. When me and my boy are out walking around and a chick tries to tell him a higher price, I speak up and they put their hand over my mouth because I know too much and am trying to teach him not to fall for it. But for some reason you label trying to teach my boy the real deal being a hater.
My time is more valuable than a 100 usd. I'the rather get what I want when I want. I don't care if I pay more than the next guy or less than the next guy.So when you see that plane ticket is $800, you are not trying to wait to see if it drops to $700, because your time is more valuable than $100? Or is it just when it comes to pussy that your time is more valuable than $100?
MongerHunger
03-06-24, 06:08
Same shit with Travelveristy, when anyone mentions his name to book a consultation they get dunked on too because his "girlfriend" still got that Monger in Asia porn video up.
Do you remember the title of that video or the link?
Now imagine earning 1/5 of what he makes for an hour of a girl's time. That sounds absolutely insane. And it is. It may sound absolutely insane, and maybe it is, but it is not much more insane than in the US. Or probably most places. The US equivalent would be a girl charging $6-700 compared to a guy making $40 K per year. There are actually lots of girls who are charging that, and they aren't working for $2-300 because of what a restaurant manager makes. Shockingly, there are guys on the domestic boards who complain about the guys paying those prices and how they are ruining it for everyone else, there are girls who complain about hagglers and cheapskates, and there are guys paying their rates who don't give a fuck what any other guys think. I won't say the comparison is the same, but it isn't out of the ballpark.
As far as anyone "ruining things" for anyone else. I'm not buying it. They may be "ruined" in some people's opinion, but if I can pay $100/ HR for a date with a hot girl who isn't a clockwatcher and who would go for $500/ HR at home, that isn't ruined. If you have a secret spot in the world where there are plentiful young, beautiful women who love to fuck for almost no money, enjoy it. Eventually other people will find it and prices will go up. Even if everyone who learned about it went there with your shrewd negotiating skills and refused to compromise, supply and demand means either prices would go up or there would be a shortage. It's globalization and there is absolutely nothing any of us can do about it except make our own decisions based on our own criteria.
Fresh back. CTG is done. All the beauties that came from all over have disappeared. Whats left are a bunch of 4th stringers roaming the alleys and streets of Centro. Hollywood beach, average talent. Androgeno, will never go there again. Men outnumbered the 4th stringers 10 to 1 easy. The rapper crowd in Androgeno just not for me and I'm the same ethnicity as most of the folks in there. With Space, Dolce and Delirium closing, alot of the talent has gone elsewhere. Until the clubs open back up, I won't be back. Thos clubs attracted the real talent from all over Colombia from my perspective. The best babe I had concurred and was going to Mexico and other places until things go back to what was normal.Some are saying the Youtubers and Passport Bros. Have been the nail in the coffin in places like Cartagena and Sosua. Nothing lasts forever. The key is to be ahead of the curve.
Fresh back. CTG is done. All the beauties that came from all over have disappeared. Whats left are a bunch of 4th stringers roaming the alleys and streets of Centro. Hollywood beach, average talent. Androgeno, will never go there again. Men outnumbered the 4th stringers 10 to 1 easy. The rapper crowd in Androgeno just not for me and I'm the same ethnicity as most of the folks in there. With Space, Dolce and Delirium closing, alot of the talent has gone elsewhere. Until the clubs open back up, I won't be back. Thos clubs attracted the real talent from all over Colombia from my perspective. The best babe I had concurred and was going to Mexico and other places until things go back to what was normal.Thanks for the warning, sounds like the people & areas I try to avoid at home in ATL. My first time to Delirium a small time youtuber Preem Pab the most typical of Pookies was being obnoxious in rhe club and the street. Closed my tab and went to Dolce, girls were way better (literally 30 8's, 9's, a couple 10's thru the night) and while the customers were diverse every one knew how to act.
I've noticed the Cartagena walk thru have started to drop on YouTube a little and they are starting to re-upload more vids since the talent has gone far. Unless you've got established girls, CTG isn't worth it if you wanted convenient, safer, high volume centralized girls.
PerkinWarbeck
03-06-24, 14:07
Sex workers in all countries including the US are capable of making the average monthly salary on one night. I know strippers pulling in 5-6 k in one shift in NyC. Not even Vegas. Girls charging 1 k an hour getting 3-4 clients.
That's why I never understood this comparison. Sex workers will make a lot more than an average working salary. That's how it's always been. Even at third world rates they can make 2-300 k a night dancing at a strip club that comes to 7-8 million a month.Colombia is not the United States with higher levels of disposable income. Comparing the two doesn't make sense.
These girls earn roughly the minimum wage, especially in Cartagena. I apologize to folks reading this if I sound like a broken clock, but there are not enough men who will pay 400 k pesos for sex in Cartagena for that to be the going rate.
The going rate is 150 k. Actually, if you know locals, it's closer to 100 k depending on time of the month. There aren't enough men in Cartagena who can afford to pay the girls even that much consistently. So the muchachas you see in Centro will have maybe two clients a week for 300 k or so. They might discount further if they need food for their family or if they aren't making rent.
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Mr Enternational
03-06-24, 16:19
Sex workers will make a lot more than an average working salary. That's how it's always been. Even at third world rates they can make 2-300 k a night dancing at a strip club that comes to 7-8 million a month.Can and do are two different things. You would see them living in new condos and driving Mercedes, instead of telling the trick he has to pay her taxi too, if they were making that much money.
Elvis 2008
03-06-24, 16:47
All those musings about prices although sensible don't pass a bar in real life. What do you say to all few Colombians who pay millions to girls over the weekend? Take a closer look in the mirror and ask 'How much would I charge to fuck him?' The same applies to all subpar girls that show up for sex work. And then a rare dolled up beauty at the right hour with all her overhead demands a higher rate and exploits competition. Now it takes me just seconds to approach her and make a reasonable offer. I have never regretted paying a premium. I have regretted not paying it and missing a chance.Exactly. And the whole notion that guys are going to hold out on paying a woman you are DTF because of the guys on ISG is laughable. If you want to pay Colombian prices, go to places where there are few to no tourists. That is not Cartagena.
One of the other things these guys do not get is the really hot women have options. I had a breakup with an ex-fiance who had one of the nicest bodies you will ever see. Six pack abs. Crazy strong thighs and worked out like a fiend. After we broke up, she made damned sure she showed me all the American guys pursuing her. Marrying one of them would have not been a problem for her.
The top guys want filet mignon and the guys eating hamburger here, and it is obvious who they are, gripe nonstop about the price of hamburger going up. They claim pussy is pussy and therefore beef is beef. As I have asked so many times, why don't they object to the prices on anything else? Why aren't you making fun of the guys eating filet mignon or staying in the expensive hotels?You're observing what I'm observing, and it's going to be funny when people go against what you say only then later to repeat what was said and act like it's new information similar to the ones who were defending Sousa 2 years ago are now making videos of how bad it is because all the girls are overweight walking around with yoga pants and bonnets on their heads LOL.
The more people talk the more they tell on themselves and expose the exact type of chicas they are going for and they believe the good looking chicas with options are the same price as the ones down on their luck and desperate.
I've reported about similar previously on this forum and was called a liar or a conspiracy theorist only to then months or a year later others speak up about seeing exactly what I reported or they were doing what I reported.
The amount of time chicas I approached got their WhatsApp or Instagram, and through back and forth texting told me 800 K for the night and I told them no and moved on to the next one, only to see them a week or 2 weeks later posting pictures of statuses in Tulum, Cancun, Mexico City, Ecuador, Brazil, Punta Cana, Italy, Morocco, Croatia, Paris, Spain, etc, and the funny thing is right now as I'm typing this, these same exact girls are now in NYC, Chicago, Philly, DC, NJ, Houston, Miami and posting pictures of them being there.
People really think the chicas with the passports and no obligations such as salary job, kids, or school will willingly market themselves to locals and accept bare minimum when they can go to Centro and get 1 or 2 guys and walk home with a whole months salary in 1 night or 1 day or if they hit it good they get flown out of Colombia for a whole week and best believe they are getting paid very well for that week. I'm not even going to touch on the ones who have sugar daddies giving them allowances or having them stay in apartments in Bocagrande. I tell people that if they see a chica with a Pro MAX iPhone, then high probability she's going to be expensive but they ignore what I say and go for the possibility of her being cheap.
Everyone just need to work within their budget and enjoy their time. If the expensive chica is too much then walk away until she desperate but by then how much time was wasted waiting for that chica to become desperate LOL.
Elvis 2008
03-06-24, 17:06
I just said the other day how my buddy here in Thailand did not listen and paid the chick $110 because he had to have her. According to you I was hating when I told him that was way too much. She wanted to come back the next day but he wised up and now only wanted to give her half of that but she refused because he had already fucked it up for himself. The day after that she hit him up begging to take the half he was offering. Then he tried to go even lower to what I told him to pay in the first place. I was like man don't play games with the chick. You should have stuck with the price I was telling you from the jump instead of paying 3 times more. But when he first got here he was so excited and horny and that money was burning such a hole in his pocket, that what I said went in one ear and out the other (or maybe he thought I was hating!) Later on, he realized that what I told him was gospel and he did fuck around and overpay when she hit him up begging for the lesser amount.Yeah, and that story also showed you are a hypocrite. You have preached pussy is pussy and then in that story, you said that the white Chinese looking women in Thailand go for more. By doing so, you admitted that the market price IS set by looks. So when you guys go off on guys "overpaying", you have no clue as to whether they are or are if you have no clue what they look like.
And you have no idea what the pussy is even like based on a photo. Is it smelly and loose or tight and smells and tastes great? You do not know. And then there is the rest of the woman. Is she good at IOP? Does she hang out with you when you are done? Does she show kindness when you are with her? Is she appreciative of what you give her or is she angling to get more and more? Does she make you feel special?
Believe it or not, I am not totally dissing you Mr. E. I know you could give a course on getting guys to pay less, but you are fooling yourself into thinking you always know if someone is overpaying. If there are places where there are hot and cheap women, and it is easy to get to, you should assume it it not going to last. The demand for said women is eventually going to push up the price.
You know that if you want Colombian rates, you go to places where there are mostly Colombians, and that is not Cartagena or Medellin.
So when you see that plane ticket is $800, you are not trying to wait to see if it drops to $700, because your time is more valuable than $100? Or is it just when it comes to pussy that your time is more valuable than $100?You have me dying right now LOL.
My boy is crying right now cause his return ticket alone is $700 at Blue Basic. When I told him to get it back in January when I did, I got round trip Blue Extra for a little under $500. He wanted to wait for that price drop lmfao.
Where is the post that guys say this? There is not one. We say you are fucking it up for other guys coming after you, not for ourselves. We already know the deal and how to navigate and are trying to put others on game. You are not fucking it up for us.
I just said the other day how my buddy here in Thailand did not listen and paid the chick $110 because he had to have her. According to you I was hating when I told him that was way too much. She wanted to come back the next day but he wised up and now only wanted to give her half of that but she refused because he had already fucked it up for himself. The day after that she hit him up begging to take the half he was offering. Then he tried to go even lower to what I told him to pay in the first place. I was like man don't play games with the chick. You should have stuck with the price I was telling you from the jump instead of paying 3 times more. But when he first got here he was so excited and horny and that money was burning such a hole in his pocket, that what I said went in one ear and out the other (or maybe he thought I was hating!) Later on, he realized that what I told him was gospel and he did fuck around and overpay when she hit him up begging for the lesser amount.
If I'm going on vacay why would I care about 100 $ on a plane ticket.
My time on when I'm free to to travel and how much time I can spend away is more valuable.
And yes there's tons of posts saying how guys ruin it for others.
Haters are the ones that get upset if someone pays more than they do and have something negative to say about it. The difference between you telling a friend how much to pay is based on your experience.
Also the level of women me and you look at are completely different. I deal a lot more with independents and don't do street girls or casas or clubs.
And congrats on your free chick. Quite an accomplishment.
Can and do are two different things. You would see them living in new condos and driving Mercedes, instead of telling the trick he has to pay her taxi too, if they were making that much money.But you'll see them with the newest iPhones and clothes and makeup etc.
You're not seeing the point. Sex work in general will always pay more than a regular job and that's just how it's always been.
Exactly. And the whole notion that guys are going to hold out on paying a woman you are DTF because of the guys on ISG is laughable. If you want to pay Colombian prices, go to places where there are few to no tourists. That is not Cartagena.I am not a paying member in hooker's trade union. I don't care how much they make or spend, I don't regulate their fares. Yes, I know minimum wage, transportation costs, rental costs etc. I know how much the rates are inside of Cartagena's barrios and all over the country. I even know where to get the best deal for a top hooker and I won't tell anyone. It's my vacation, my money, my time. Moreover I like when folks overpay because it attracts flocks of new birds in the trade, the more guys overpay the more girls are going to show up. So, I am going to make a reasonable offer to a top looker which she may accept, chat with her and make sure I won't be embarrassed later seeing my photo collection. How she is going to perform at least partially depends on how she is paid.
I am not a paying member in hooker's trade union. I don't care how much they make or spend, I don't regulate their fares. Yes, I know minimum wage, transportation costs, rental costs etc. I know how much the rates are inside of Cartagena's barrios and all over the country. I even know where to get the best deal for a top hooker and I won't tell anyone. It's my vacation, my money, my time. Moreover I like when folks overpay because it attracts flocks of new birds in the trade, the more guys overpay the more girls are going to show up. So, I am going to make a reasonable offer to a top looker which she may accept, chat with her and make sure I won't be embarrassed later seeing my photo collection. How she is going to perform at least partially depends on how she is paid.Some guys have to simply stay in their lane.
Some girls are simply not in their price range and those girls won't come down off their price simply because they have options also.
But Mr E will always bring up a one time story that tries to debunk almost anything anyone says.
These girls are in the most exotic locations and most expensive hotels that most on this forum couldn't afford. I think the bitterness is real.
If you have the mentality that pussy is pussy and don't remotely care about the physical appearance of a woman as long as she has a vagina between her legs then you can bargain basement hunt all you want.
Mr Enternational
03-07-24, 07:08
But you'll see them with the newest iPhones and clothes and makeup etc.
You're not seeing the point. Sex work in general will always pay more than a regular job and that's just how it's always been.Or what you think are the newest iPhones. How many rappers and athletes wear fake jewelry and folks are none the wiser? Chicks that I know that have authentic expensive phones have a trick that has bought it for them. How many posts on here you see about guys wanting to bring phones for chicks? Now imagine how many guys that are not on here are doing it.
When you show me that iPhone money in their bank account is when you will have a point. Clothes and makeup are cheap. Assuming someone is really raking it in by looking at what kind of phone they have? Come on man. You are smarter than that. Go to where they are staying then come back and report how they are making 7 million pesos. Reminds me of when Birdman said he didn't have shit, but that did not stop him from making the records saying he had shit. Who knew it was not true? Afterall, they showed a helicopter in the video. It is an illusion.
Mr Enternational
03-07-24, 08:02
The amount of time chicas I approached got their WhatsApp or Instagram, and through back and forth texting told me 800 K for the night and I told them no and moved on to the next one, only to see them a week or 2 weeks later posting pictures of statuses in Tulum, Cancun, Mexico City, Ecuador, Brazil, Punta Cana, Italy, Morocco, Croatia, Paris, Spain, etc, and the funny thing is right now as I'm typing this, these same exact girls are now in NYC, Chicago, Philly, DC, NJ, Houston, Miami and posting pictures of them being there.And I have also seen them hoes turn back into pumpkins and be right back in that same one room apartment in the hood.
Mr Enternational
03-07-24, 08:23
Yeah, and that story also showed you are a hypocrite. You have preached pussy is pussy and then in that story, you said that the white Chinese looking women in Thailand go for more. By doing so, you admitted that the market price IS set by looks. I did not say they go for more. I said some guys want to pay them more. And I did not say there was any market price. You pay what you negotiate. They are no different.
I was in the soapy with my buddy last night. The guy handed him the card with prices. The girls wear tags according to her price. There were 5 price tiers. S was the highest at $155. There was only one chick with S and there was nothing special about her. I asked my buddy do you see any reason why this chick should be more than that chick? He said no. I said and different days they switch tags so this chick will be getting paid more and that one less. Also let me add that the chicks gets half of what you pay. So if you pay $50 in there she gets $25 of it. You think she will not take $25 outside? Which is it? Is she worth the $50 that you paid or the $25 that she actually gets paid? Is your supposed market price the $25 she gets paid or the $50 that you paid?
Same here at the Russian clubs. Indian or arab guys will go in there and pay $300 to sit and drink with a Russian chick because where they are from they do not see White chicks and it is their dream to be around them. (Did you see the Indian guys that gang raaped the Brazilian chick the other day and beat up her husband? They never seen a Brazilian chick so to them it was worth it to risk their freedom.) To mfs that are used to this shit then pussy is pussy and they see no reason to sit and drink with a chick for $300 simply because she is White or do the other thing that those guys did. I see no reason to pay 800 K to a chick simply because she had surgery and some other trick bought her a nice phone.
https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/asia/2024/03/05/india-dumka-rape-spanish-brazilian-biker/?outputType=amp
Mr Enternational
03-07-24, 08:34
If there are places where there are hot and cheap women, and it is easy to get to, you should assume it it not going to last.True.
The demand for said women is eventually going to push up the price.False. It has nothing to do with the demand in an economic sense. It has everything to do with horny guys and their money burning a hole in their pocket, then the women thinking well he he gave me this much, so everyone should give me this much. Men have always been their own worst enemy.
Now in my country it is starting to turn out that Americans will end up being their own worst enemy. They are doing it to themselves.
Mr Enternational
03-07-24, 08:48
And yes there's tons of posts saying how guys ruin it for others.Yes. Once again ruin it for OTHERS, not for themselves. Nypher and Gabacho know how to navigate. You are not going to ruin it for them. The new guy coming next week, you may ruin it for, but shit he won't know the difference anyway.
I have been saying for damn near 15 years how Sosua has been ruined, but the newer guys said I was hating. Now that it has been made worse by those after them, they want to claim it as ruined. And I am not saying that it is ruined for me because I have been driving around the country for years meeting chicks that are not hookers. The ruined strip in Sosua is not my bread and butter, so my observation about it as being ruined is not saying it affects me.
PerkinWarbeck
03-07-24, 14:02
The guys who post in this thread don't live in Cartagena. They don't speak Spanish. They literally don't know better than any of the first timers who pay those rates to the girls.
And I want to apologize to you guys for making this even a topic. Please pay whatever rates you want, but also, please don't pretend like those rates are normal. Those girls work for much less than that consistently.
And to get it back on track: I was downtown last night getting dinner and the police presence has picked back up. Crime outside the tourist zones is still pretty bad, so they peeled off some of the police force to patrol. Semana Santa is just about a month away, and the presence is back. There were more police in the square than tourists when I was walking home last night. A few girls tried to eye me down, but I don't pick up women there. Too many people know me, and word spreads quick. I will get some WhatsApp numbers on Friday.
Or what you think are the newest iPhones. How many rappers and athletes wear fake jewelry and folks are none the wiser? Chicks that I know that have authentic expensive phones have a trick that has bought it for them. How many posts on here you see about guys wanting to bring phones for chicks? Now imagine how many guys that are not on here are doing it.
When you show me that iPhone money in their bank account is when you will have a point. Clothes and makeup are cheap. Assuming someone is really raking it in by looking at what kind of phone they have? Come on man. You are smarter than that. Go to where they are staying then come back and report how they are making 7 million pesos. Reminds me of when Birdman said he didn't have shit, but that did not stop him from making the records saying he had shit. Who knew it was not true? Afterall, they showed a helicopter in the video. It is an illusion.Never said these girls have the financial literacy to save their money but one thing is for sure they burn through a lot of money.
The higher end girls simply won't accept 200-300 k pesos. And this is well known but you only bring up examples of your experiences. But as others have pointed out as well there's different levels of playing fields. I know prepagos who have cars and businesses and outright bought apartments on envigado and poblado.
Elvis 2008
03-07-24, 22:37
True.
False. It has nothing to do with the demand in an economic sense.If you think demand does not affect pricing, then you know nothing about how markets work.
It has everything to do with horny guys and their money burning a hole in their pocket, then the women thinking well he he gave me this much, so everyone should give me this much. Men have always been their own worst enemy.Sigh. If a woman can get other men to pay her more, she was undercharging men. If she cannot, then her price is too high. The concept that women could be undercharging is a foreign concept to you.
Why is my apartment costing 50% more than it did 2 years ago? Why have hotel rates doubled in Colombia in the last 2 years? It must be because stupid men are overpaying because for you, that is all that can move prices.
AndruwJones62
03-08-24, 02:04
I am wondering if anyob.
One knows if there are any casas in CTG like in MDE? If you do please let me know where to locate them.
Never said these girls have the financial literacy to save their money but one thing is for sure they burn through a lot of money.
The higher end girls simply won't accept 200-300 k pesos. And this is well known but you only bring up examples of your experiences. But as others have pointed out as well there's different levels of playing fields. I know prepagos who have cars and businesses and outright bought apartments on envigado and poblado.Also consider that a lot of these "independent" girls work for agencies one way or another, and don't necessarily control their pricing. Last trip I contacted two mileroticos girls; they were both in the same building near Marbella. I ended up spending my entire trip with one of them and she told me she had to make a certain amount for the "company" she works for. Pretty sure an agency has a block of apartments in the same building and rotates chicas. No idea if any of those girls work the clubs when they're not booked.
I also speak enough Spanish to read the local review board (Doncolombia). You hear guys on there complaining about GPS and girls who want 400 K+. If they aren't fucking locals for less, do you think they give a shit about your opinion of market clearing prices and the wages of the average worker? Speaking of which, I do think there are girls who work in two markets. Maybe she does "un rato" for 80 K with locals, but it is in her incall in an area many of us wouldn't want to go. If she dresses up and goes to Centro looking for a gringo to bring her to his Airbnb in Bocagrande do you really think she is going to charge the same rate? By the way, that 80 K may be a day's wages for the local. Basically, unless you are a local or are embedded enough to pass, don't expect the same deal as the locals.
I know a lot of you are hung up on how good Cartagena "used to be", and how it is "ruined" now. There is a rule in finance called "ignore sunk costs". How good or bad someplace used to be, or what a girl used to charge, is irrelevant. We are in the present, and we have to make decisions based on the choices available to us now, not 5 or 10 years ago. If you think there are better places to visit because the girls are cheaper and you will overall have a better time, go there. Having said that, if you think paying $100 or even $150 for an hour with a good-looking chica is outrageous and the city is ruined, let me introduce you to Chloe and Zaya, who are charging $700 and $800 per hour, respectively, in the south Florida market. I'm not paying that, but if I come to Cartagena and pay a hot chica 600 K for an hour and anyone wants to tell me how I am overpaying I will get a good chuckle.
Elvis 2008
03-08-24, 17:21
The more people talk the more they tell on themselves and expose the exact type of chicas they are going for and they believe the good looking chicas with options are the same price as the ones down on their luck and desperate.Yep.
The amount of time chicas I approached got their WhatsApp or Instagram, and through back and forth texting told me 800 K for the night and I told them no and moved on to the next one, only to see them a week or 2 weeks later posting pictures of statuses in Tulum, Cancun, Mexico City, Ecuador, Brazil, Punta Cana, Italy, Morocco, Croatia, Paris, Spain, etc, and the funny thing is right now as I'm typing this, these same exact girls are now in NYC, Chicago, Philly, DC, NJ, Houston, Miami and posting pictures of them being there.And it says a lot about the high quality of the women you see that they know to go to places where they can earn more. What interests me is if Cartagena with its higher prices are going to attract others around the country to come to it kind of like the Hong Kong Club in Tijuana in Mexico.
Also consider that a lot of these "independent" girls work for agencies one way or another, and don't necessarily control their pricing. Last trip I contacted two mileroticos girls; they were both in the same building near Marbella. I ended up spending my entire trip with one of them and she told me she had to make a certain amount for the "company" she works for. Pretty sure an agency has a block of apartments in the same building and rotates chicas. No idea if any of those girls work the clubs when they're not booked.
I also speak enough Spanish to read the local review board (Doncolombia). You hear guys on there complaining about GPS and girls who want 400 K+. If they aren't fucking locals for less, do you think they give a shit about your opinion of market clearing prices and the wages of the average worker? Speaking of which, I do think there are girls who work in two markets. Maybe she does "un rato" for 80 K with locals, but it is in her incall in an area many of us wouldn't want to go. If she dresses up and goes to Centro looking for a gringo to bring her to his Airbnb in Bocagrande do you really think she is going to charge the same rate? By the way, that 80 K may be a day's wages for the local. Basically, unless you are a local or are embedded enough to pass, don't expect the same deal as the locals.
I know a lot of you are hung up on how good Cartagena "used to be", and how it is "ruined" now. There is a rule in finance called "ignore sunk costs". How good or bad someplace used to be, or what a girl used to charge, is irrelevant. We are in the present, and we have to make decisions based on the choices available to us now, not 5 or 10 years ago. If you think there are better places to visit because the girls are cheaper and you will overall have a better time, go there. Having said that, if you think paying $100 or even $150 for an hour with a good-looking chica is outrageous and the city is ruined, let me introduce you to Chloe and Zaya, who are charging $700 and $800 per hour, respectively, in the south Florida market. I'm not paying that, but if I come to Cartagena and pay a hot chica 600 K for an hour and anyone wants to tell me how I am overpaying I will get a good chuckle.Speaking of that South Florida market. Did you see that huge bust they did on the Migrant X trafficking ring in Florida? They were flying them in from Latin America and operating out on Florida, they didn't realize that they can't do it like they are doing over here on Rosevelt Ave in Queens. I see allot of them on Listcrawler and Hot.com but I do not dear touch this shit on American soil and lose my entire career over 30 minutes of fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K30dMX6h15M
This is similar to another story (girls go where the money is). I knew a chica who I use to recommend to others because she was safe when she was in CTG. She made her way up NYC in 2023 February and got caught up in those smash and grab department stores robberies BLM style. Lost track of her because all of a sudden she too busy and don't have time (my low price in CTG is no where near what she is charging in NYC), but simultaneously posting that she at all the good hot spots in Manhattan. End of last year I get a random text from her she needs help, they have her in a detention center and she have to stay there until he works off the amount she stole and her asylum appointment date. Best of luck to her.
https://www.instagram.com/michinabebesita480/
Someone who I had recommended her to while they were in CTG and they had no problems with her and saw her multiple time without issue messaged me said a few months ago she scammed them out of money saying she needed money for and apartment and she was going to see them, They Zelle the money to the account she gave, never showed up, then blocked them.
Be careful out there gents, don't get scammed, scoped, or caught up in a sting.
I was in Ethiopia a week and a half ago and because someone wrote prices, them hoes did not get over on me. Someone said do not pay more than $10. One chick tried to get me for $20. I stuck with $10. She hemmed and hawed and went to $15 and $13, but I stuck to the $10 that I saw in the report. Finally, she realized I knew better.How long did the negotiation take? Because at my billing rate that $10 is worth about 5 minutes of my time.
Seriously, if any attractive girl wanted to fuck me for $20 and I KNEW that was double her rate I would laugh, tell her to do her best job, and to get to work.
Mr Enternational
03-09-24, 02:55
If you think demand does not affect pricing, then you know nothing about how markets work.We are not talking about a market. We are talking about a variety of freelance hookers that come and go haphazardly and can change their price at will and according to who they are dealing with. If we are speaking about casas with set pricing, then we are talking about a market.
Mr Enternational
03-09-24, 02:58
I know prepagos who have cars and businesses and outright bought apartments on envigado and poblado.Yes. And they are the extremely rare exception, not the rule.
Mr Enternational
03-09-24, 03:10
Why is my apartment costing 50% more than it did 2 years ago?If it is in a tourist area then that would explain it. If it is in a local area and they know a foreigner is footing the bill then that also explains it. My apartment in Thailand has been the same price for 15 years. The taxi that I take from the airport has been the same price for 15 years. The initial asking price of chicks has skyrocketed. Not because there are less chicks or because the price of living has gone up. So it must be because stupid men are overpaying.
Why have hotel rates doubled in Colombia in the last 2 years? It must be because stupid men are overpaying because for you, that is all that can move prices.No. It is because prices were lowered during covid when they had no customers. Now that people are back the prices have simply returned to where they were precovid for hotels. Freelance hookers have said we can double our price for these suckers. After they have paid for tickets and hotels, they are not going to want to go home with a dry dick no matter how much we charge them.
Mr Enternational
03-09-24, 03:29
How long did the negotiation take? Because at my billing rate that $10 is worth about 5 minutes of my time.
Seriously, if any attractive girl wanted to fuck me for $20 and I KNEW that was double her rate I would laugh, tell her to do her best job, and to get to work.Negotiation takes 2 seconds. We are not negotiating a 20 year contract. We are simply quickly going back and forth on how much it would be to fuck right here right now. Just like last night. Chick is coming over and wants $42. I say $28. She says okay I am on the way. After we fucked I paid her by bank transfer. It is not brain surgery and does not take your 5 precious minutes.
If you walked into the best restaurant in town and they wanted to feed you for $40 and you knew you were getting the exact same meal that everyone at the other tables had and they paid $20, would you also laugh and say bring the plate? Probably not. But for pussy of course.
Speaking of that South Florida market. Did you see that huge bust they did on the Migrant X trafficking ring in Florida? They were flying them in from Latin America and operating out on Florida, they didn't realize that they can't do it like they are doing over here on Rosevelt Ave in Queens. I see allot of them on Listcrawler and Hot.com but I do not dear touch this shit on American soil and lose my entire career over 30 minutes of fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K30dMX6h15MThat is a ways up the road from me, but a lot of craziness in that story. Do you really think the Dominican woman they claimed was running the ring was top of the pyramid? Don't you think the same kind of thing is going on running girls to Cartagena?
Anyway, finalized all the arrangements for my trip next month with the Venezolana I met on my first trip. Bought her ticket from Bucaramanga, I'll send her some shopping money in advance, and give her $250/ night for 5 nights. Nice hotel in Laguito, a trip to Bora Bora or whatever, party bus, and some good meals. I figure the whole thing with airfare will run $3-4 K for a week vacation, as much sex as my dick can handle, in a fun city I enjoy on its own merits. Or I could have stayed home and spent $3 K to spend four hours with Chloe. Call me crazy.
AmorPorFavor
03-09-24, 04:02
How long did the negotiation take? Because at my billing rate that $10 is worth about 5 minutes of my time.
Seriously, if any attractive girl wanted to fuck me for $20 and I KNEW that was double her rate I would laugh, tell her to do her best job, and to get to work.I like your style. Its just gross how proud MrE is of himself for beating a dirt poor girl in a dirt poor country out of $10.
AmorPorFavor
03-09-24, 04:13
That is a ways up the road from me, but a lot of craziness in that story. Do you really think the Dominican woman they claimed was running the ring was top of the pyramid? Don't you think the same kind of thing is going on running girls to Cartagena?
Anyway, finalized all the arrangements for my trip next month with the Venezolana I met on my first trip. Bought her ticket from Bucaramanga, I'll send her some shopping money in advance, and give her $250/ night for 5 nights. Nice hotel in Laguito, a trip to Bora Bora or whatever, party bus, and some good meals. I figure the whole thing with airfare will run $3-4 K for a week vacation, as much sex as my dick can handle, in a fun city I enjoy on its own merits. Or I could have stayed home and spent $3 K to spend four hours with Chloe. Call me crazy.I wifed up with a hot chicas on both my trips to CTG for 4 days / nights each. Its a great time, more like a honeymoon than a monger trip taking them to dinner and stuff. Then took some random ones on the other days or took a break. They were both hot and asked for $250. Countered with $200 and they said quickly said ok. Plus you are springing for all their meals, drinks ect. So it adds up.
Mr Enternational
03-09-24, 09:08
I like your style. Its just gross how proud MrE is of himself for beating a dirt poor girl in a dirt poor country out of $10.LOL. I did not beat anyone out of anything. I negotiated the same way people do with everything in non-Western countries. A fair exchange is no robbery. What did I give that Indriver guy for 8 hours to tour me and my girl around the Boyacá area in his nice new SUV? 180,000 pesos? My style is definitely not to pay a hooker damn near 1 million pesos per day to sit around and keep me company. Not my style at all.
Like I said when I was on the Seychelles trip. I NEGOTIATED for 140 euro to be on the same tour that other Western mfs that didn't negotiate spent 300 euro for. Ain't my fucking fault you Westerners think the first price is the final price and the cost of everything has to be compared to back home.
Elvis 2008
03-09-24, 16:11
Anyway, finalized all the arrangements for my trip next month with the Venezolana I met on my first trip. Bought her ticket from Bucaramanga, I'll send her some shopping money in advance, and give her $250/ night for 5 nights. Nice hotel in Laguito, a trip to Bora Bora or whatever, party bus, and some good meals. I figure the whole thing with airfare will run $3-4 K for a week vacation, as much sex as my dick can handle, in a fun city I enjoy on its own merits. Or I could have stayed home and spent $3 K to spend four hours with Chloe. Call me crazy.Not crazy at all. The sex is way better when the women know and like you. Only thing better is if you get two women who are somewhat into each other to go with you.
Yes. And they are the extremely rare exception, not the rule.Yes having cars and houses is the exception. But also your dealing with a lot more lower level girls. This is very very obvious.
You think every iPhone that these girls have is fake lmao. Well I can tell you they are not.
Based on your history on this board you always chastise other members and act like you know it all but the truth is there is a big part of the market you don't know simply because that's the area you don't venture in. So please don't act like others are always doing it wrong.
These reports are meant to be informative.
Elvis 2008
03-09-24, 17:00
If it is in a local area and they know a foreigner is footing the bill then that also explains it. My apartment in Thailand has been the same price for 15 years. The taxi that I take from the airport has been the same price for 15 years.Before you make a comment that "they" know, don't you think you should define who "they" is? Do you have any fucking clue? Also before you say that "they" raised prices only on dumb foreigners, how do you know that "they" have not raised prices on everyone? Because you are paying the same price on your place in fucking Thailand?
Not only are you describing people you do not know. You are describing the thought process of people you do not know. [Deleted by Admin]
That is a ways up the road from me, but a lot of craziness in that story. Do you really think the Dominican woman they claimed was running the ring was top of the pyramid? Don't you think the same kind of thing is going on running girls to Cartagena?
Anyway, finalized all the arrangements for my trip next month with the Venezolana I met on my first trip. Bought her ticket from Bucaramanga, I'll send her some shopping money in advance, and give her $250/ night for 5 nights. Nice hotel in Laguito, a trip to Bora Bora or whatever, party bus, and some good meals. I figure the whole thing with airfare will run $3-4 K for a week vacation, as much sex as my dick can handle, in a fun city I enjoy on its own merits. Or I could have stayed home and spent $3 K to spend four hours with Chloe. Call me crazy.I'm thinking the Dominican woman is just the front person for someone else but it's crazy that the girls had to pay her 3 K a week or they would be in trouble. Imagine what they were charging or how many customers that took to make a profit after handing over the 3 K to the pimp weekly. I don't think the same is happening in Cartagena unless it's similar to those incall girls working out of that bario of the other side of the bridge in Marbella, I think the name is Torices or something like that. But I dare not do any incalls in Cartagena, I'll leave that to those who live there.
Enjoy your trip, hopefully she's not playing the long game because I'm starting to see more and more long cons with these girls than the quick opportunistic drug and rob.
I'm thinking the Dominican woman is just the front person for someone else but it's crazy that the girls had to pay her 3 K a week or they would be in trouble. Imagine what they were charging or how many customers that took to make a profit after handing over the 3 K to the pimp weekly. I don't think the same is happening in Cartagena unless it's similar to those incall girls working out of that bario of the other side of the bridge in Marbella, I think the name is Torices or something like that. But I dare not do any incalls in Cartagena, I'll leave that to those who live there.
Enjoy your trip, hopefully she's not playing the long game because I'm starting to see more and more long cons with these girls than the quick opportunistic drug and rob.Yeah, but usually they don't want to say Torices so they say "near Marbella". I counted five mileroticos ads last time I browsed with the same map for location.
I happen to have gotten to know this girl's history fairly well, so I am confident she really is independent. She also has an Onlyfans which I assume provides a steady income stream. I am sure she will try to get the hooks in one way or another, but I am turning 70 and I am going to spend 5 days fucking a 20-something. I'll deal with the aftermath.
Mr Enternational
03-10-24, 06:03
They were both hot and asked for $250. Countered with $200 and they said quickly said ok.Taking all of that time to negotiate? It is just gross how proud you are of yourself for beating those dirt poor girls out of $50.
Mr Enternational
03-10-24, 06:09
Before you make a comment that "they" know, don't you think you should define who "they" is?Huh? "They" would be the people you pay the rent to. You must be sleepy or high. Who the heck else could set the price that you pay for rent besides the "they" who the money is going to?
Mr Enternational
03-10-24, 06:22
You think every iPhone that these girls have is fake lmao. Well I can tell you they are not.No. But 9. 9 times out of 10, if it is original, then it was not bought by the girl. It was bought by a trick. I think I asked earlier have you not seen all the post on ISG of guys asking or talking about bringing phones to hookers. I know chicks here in Thailand with original phones and they all say they did not even want the shit, but a trick they were dealing with insisted on buying it for them. Women use their money to buy what they need and use your money to buy what they want.
Mr Enternational
03-10-24, 06:59
only to see them a week or 2 weeks later posting pictures of statuses in Tulum, Cancun, Mexico City, Ecuador, Brazil, Punta Cana, Italy, Morocco, Croatia, Paris, Spain, etc, and the funny thing is right now as I'm typing this, these same exact girls are now in NYC, Chicago, Philly, DC, NJ, Houston, Miami and posting pictures of them being there.And let some folks tell it, they bought their own tickets the same way they bought their own iPhone. Never seen a Latina chick say her dream was to always go to Morroco or Philadelphia, that she would just up and buy her own ticket to go to either.
AmorPorFavor
03-10-24, 20:13
Taking all of that time to negotiate? It is just gross how proud you are of yourself for beating those dirt poor girls out of $50.Yup I saved myself $200 on each trip with 5 seconds of negotiation. I'm certainly not going to beat a dirt poor girl in a dirt poor country down from $20 to $15 to $13 to $10. I'm also certainly not going to a country like Ethiopia to fuck girls on the cheap. See how impressed we all are by your 15,800 comments.
CaptainJavito
03-10-24, 22:56
Do anyone know where the Dolce girls went?
I have a trip coming up next week and I am trying to find this dolce girl from last year.
See pictures.
My guy in CTG is telling me Space is back open and Dolce Vida is opening next week under a new name. Anyone hearing this?
CaptainJavito
03-11-24, 04:30
Do anyone know where the Dolce girls went?
I have a trip coming up next week and I am trying to find this dolce girl from last year.
See pictures.Trying to add the pictures again since they did not upload last time.
Anyone know who she is?
No. But 9. 9 times out of 10, if it is original, then it was not bought by the girl. It was bought by a trick. I think I asked earlier have you not seen all the post on ISG of guys asking or talking about bringing phones to hookers. I know chicks here in Thailand with original phones and they all say they did not even want the shit, but a trick they were dealing with insisted on buying it for them. Women use their money to buy what they need and use your money to buy what they want.And we use women for our needs. And onto the next. But you seem to have a problem with prices guys are paying and prices girls are charging. And the issue is you don't think girls are getting 200 usd plus or whatever high prices but you're wrong. The high end girls get their money which is why they charge high with room for negotiation.
Just because you know girls that had phones bought for them doesn't mean it's the norm as most the girls I know bought it themselves in medellin.
Yes guys pay for the trips to bang the girls. But they want those girls. So they have to pay. The point is you think a girl is coming down to 250 k when she charges 200+ usd?? Not happening. The girls know their worth. It's their hustle.
The Honda dealer might go down a few bucks in price but the BMW dealers ain't going to go down to Honda prices.
You guys are out here arguing about how much to pay a girl for services, but what about ice cream prices? Why does it cost $8-12 for a quart of mediocre ice cream in Colombia? I think if someone can figure out how to sell quality ice cream for cheap they'the have enough money to pay whatever price for whatever service in the world.
Mr Enternational
03-11-24, 15:44
But you seem to have a problem with prices guys are paying and prices girls are charging.Point to the post where I said I have a problem with what people are charging and paying. I do not have a problem with it at all. I hope the chicks start charging double and the guys start paying triple. It does not affect me any.
You guys are out here arguing about how much to pay a girl for services, but what about ice cream prices? Why does it cost $8-12 for a quart of mediocre ice cream in Colombia? I think if someone can figure out how to sell quality ice cream for cheap they'the have enough money to pay whatever price for whatever service in the world.I'm not sure where you go shopping but at D1 they have ice cream half gallon size for like 12 mil which is $3 usd. It comes in chocolate, vanilla, morras, and ron con pasas flavor.
I can prove that you guys in Cartagena are overpaying. This is Angeles a chica I met in Medellin in Plaza Botero. Here she charges 40 mil for a rato and I have gotten her to accept 60 mil for BBFS (I repeated a cpl times).
Anyways she says you guys are paying her $100 usd up there in Cartagena. Dame girl, same vagina, same service. Why the need to pay so much more??
And just to clarify, I'm not bitter mad or upset, in fact I haven't even been fucking her lately. I've been on to the next one. I'm just trying to understand the logic in paying $100 usd for something that costs $12 usd.
Its like Mac Dre said "I can sell an Eskimo ice at a high price and get him twice" in that analogy you guys are the Eskimos LOL.
HumpyDumpty11
03-11-24, 21:19
My guy in CTG is telling me Space is back open and Dolce Vida is opening next week under a new name. Anyone hearing this?Space reopened this past weekend as Omnia Hookah bar. Same rules as other clubs. No girls allowed to enter to work. Girls have enter with a guy. So you will only have couples inside or a sausage fest.
AmorPorFavor
03-11-24, 23:22
And we use women for our needs. And onto the next. But you seem to have a problem with prices guys are paying and prices girls are charging. And the issue is you don't think girls are getting 200 usd plus or whatever high prices but you're wrong. The high end girls get their money which is why they charge high with room for negotiation.
Just because you know girls that had phones bought for them doesn't mean it's the norm as most the girls I know bought it themselves in medellin.
Yes guys pay for the trips to bang the girls. But they want those girls. So they have to pay. The point is you think a girl is coming down to 250 k when she charges 200+ usd?? Not happening. The girls know their worth. It's their hustle.
The Honda dealer might go down a few bucks in price but the BMW dealers ain't going to go down to Honda prices.I follow a lot of the hotter high end girls from Medellin and Tijuana on their social media. Think VS model types. They take a lot of very nice, expensive trips all over Mexico, the Caribbean and Europe. Way more often than not it is with their other hot high end hooker girlfriends. If all the pics are just of them then it is with a sugar daddy, but if it is with the girlfriends they will be in the pics.
I follow a lot of the hotter high end girls from Medellin and Tijuana on their social media. Think VS model types. They take a lot of very nice, expensive trips all over Mexico, the Caribbean and Europe. Way more often than not it is with their other hot high end hooker girlfriends. If all the pics are just of them then it is with a sugar daddy, but if it is with the girlfriends they will be in the pics.Colombian women who go to Dubai love to brag that they've been there. The funny thing is it's been exposed.
Yes girls get paid 10 k plus usd. But these Arabs use them as toilets. Sick but true. But hey they all get the Instagram moments in the desert having the greatest time eating the best foods etc. Guys put them up in penthouses and places most of us can never even dream of being in.
My point is there are filthy rich men who pay and right now Colombian women are it. They are using social media to maximize their advertising capabilities.
In India there's rich groups offering girls 10 k for anal gang bangs with their male friends. 20 guys to 10 girls and all take turns. Anal only.
There are levels you guys don't even know exist. And if you're always playing in the 40 mil for pussy or 120 mil for club pussy that's fine. But odds are you're not going to know what's going on in the high high end of this industry.
Elvis 2008
03-12-24, 01:54
Huh? "They" would be the people you pay the rent to. You must be sleepy or high.And how do you that is a "they" versus a she or he? You do not. So when you say that "they" raised my rent because it was because a foreigner was paying for it, and you do not know that either, you are making up the "they".
So everyone can see you are making shit up to support the constant myth you got going on in your head: I am paying less than everyone else and getting it just as good.
I follow a lot of the hotter high end girls from Medellin and Tijuana on their social media. Think VS model types. They take a lot of very nice, expensive trips all over Mexico, the Caribbean and Europe. Way more often than not it is with their other hot high end hooker girlfriends. If all the pics are just of them then it is with a sugar daddy, but if it is with the girlfriends they will be in the pics.If these girls are traveling with friends it is almost definitely through an agency moving them between markets. Do you think good-looking girls are moving from Medellin to Tijuana, between two countries with the most powerful cartels in the world, without protection? I doubt they are booking their airfare and hotels on Priceline, and my guess is they are being paid for by the same company that pays for those cellphones. I suspect every girl working the clubs or streets in Centro has someone they call if they have a problem with a client or anyone else. I suspect most girls who work multiple cities are "semi-independent", meaning they may have a lot of flexibility on a daily basis but they pay for protection, hotel / apartment, transportation, and other support. My guess is even the independents pay someone to keep them safe, especially if they are good-looking and can pull a good rate.
AmorPorFavor
03-12-24, 04:21
If these girls are traveling with friends it is almost definitely through an agency moving them between markets. Do you think good-looking girls are moving from Medellin to Tijuana, between two countries with the most powerful cartels in the world, without protection? I doubt they are booking their airfare and hotels on Priceline, and my guess is they are being paid for by the same company that pays for those cellphones. I suspect every girl working the clubs or streets in Centro has someone they call if they have a problem with a client or anyone else. I suspect most girls who work multiple cities are "semi-independent", meaning they may have a lot of flexibility on a daily basis but they pay for protection, hotel / apartment, transportation, and other support. My guess is even the independents pay someone to keep them safe, especially if they are good-looking and can pull a good rate.I know most of them and I am talking about short vacations, less than a week, with their girlfriends. They are not there to work. They are girls that live in either MDE or TIJ and are very hot and can make a lot of money. I don't know any club or street girls in MDE. Some work at Hong Kong in Tijuana. Mostly from Seeking and some FB. I operate on a higher level.
I can prove that you guys in Cartagena are overpaying. This is Angeles a chica I met in Medellin in Plaza Botero. Here she charges 40 mil for a rato and I have gotten her to accept 60 mil for BBFS (I repeated a cpl times).
Anyways she says you guys are paying her $100 usd up there in Cartagena. Dame girl, same vagina, same service. Why the need to pay so much more??
And just to clarify, I'm not bitter mad or upset, in fact I haven't even been fucking her lately. I've been on to the next one. I'm just trying to understand the logic in paying $100 usd for something that costs $12 usd.
Its like Mac Dre said "I can sell an Eskimo ice at a high price and get him twice" in that analogy you guys are the Eskimos LOL.Well it's the same with the Dominicans. They go from 1200 pesos in Sosua then once the land over here in Dyckman they want $300 for the same old rock hard fucked up BBL and chopped up body.
I would love to see what this 60 Mil BBFS in Medellinwho can go to Cartagena and charge $100 looks like to gauge what type of gringo is paying for something like that.
Trying to add the pictures again since they did not upload last time.
Anyone know who she is?I know who she is but she doesn't look like that anymore, she only wore that hair while she was working.
I remember around this time last year someone dropped her photo in a WhatsApp group saying some things about her, but she had already told me what happened with the gringo. Had to pull him aside in a private message and let him know that he cannot get mad at the chica and refuse to pay when his dick don't work because he's been sniffing too much.
Anyway she managed to figure out how to sit at home and have these gringos send her money so she's now a travel chica. From what I've seen looks like she managed to line up 3 of her sponsors back to back for her birthday last month and went to Medellin, Gautape, Santa Martha, Minca, and San Andres.
From her last post it looks like she's still in San Andres with a gringo.
You won't find her in the clubs anymore even if they open back up.
Colombian women who go to Dubai love to brag that they've been there. The funny thing is it's been exposed.
Yes girls get paid 10 k plus usd. But these Arabs use them as toilets. Sick but true. But hey they all get the Instagram moments in the desert having the greatest time eating the best foods etc. Guys put them up in penthouses and places most of us can never even dream of being in.
My point is there are filthy rich men who pay and right now Colombian women are it. They are using social media to maximize their advertising capabilities.
In India there's rich groups offering girls 10 k for anal gang bangs with their male friends. 20 guys to 10 girls and all take turns. Anal only.
There are levels you guys don't even know exist. And if you're always playing in the 40 mil for pussy or 120 mil for club pussy that's fine. But odds are you're not going to know what's going on in the high high end of this industry.I remember when the Dubai stuff got exposed on Tagthesponsor. Shit was wild, sucking of camels, the shower curtains on the bed for the shit LOL. They love that humiliation stuff and them IG models become scared for life and play it off trying to make strangers believe some prince gave them that wonderful week in Dubai because she was so beautiful. Jake Paul exposed it too. All them IG models are for sale.
Those Indians are on a whole other level. Every time I was in Pattaya I would always see about 5 of them negotiating for 1 girl and the look on the girls face through the whole conversation just seem extremely uncomfortable, then she goes with them with the most unpleasant face like they didn't even want to do it but they need the money.
Yeah, but usually they don't want to say Torices so they say "near Marbella". I counted five mileroticos ads last time I browsed with the same map for location.
I happen to have gotten to know this girl's history fairly well, so I am confident she really is independent. She also has an Onlyfans which I assume provides a steady income stream. I am sure she will try to get the hooks in one way or another, but I am turning 70 and I am going to spend 5 days fucking a 20-something. I'll deal with the aftermath.70!? Damn we're 2 generations apart. Have all the sex you can while it all still works.
DramaFree11
03-12-24, 06:28
If these girls are traveling with friends it is almost definitely through an agency moving them between markets. Do you think good-looking girls are moving from Medellin to Tijuana, between two countries with the most powerful cartels in the world, without protection? I doubt they are booking their airfare and hotels on Priceline, and my guess is they are being paid for by the same company that pays for those cellphones. I suspect every girl working the clubs or streets in Centro has someone they call if they have a problem with a client or anyone else. I suspect most girls who work multiple cities are "semi-independent", meaning they may have a lot of flexibility on a daily basis but they pay for protection, hotel / apartment, transportation, and other support. My guess is even the independents pay someone to keep them safe, especially if they are good-looking and can pull a good rate.Yep, there are so many girls in CDMX from Colombia, currently. There is also a website in CDMX that advertises for Colombian and Venz. , chicks. I have not seen any Colombian chicks on SA in MTY recently, there is usually a few.
The Mexican Dudes love the Colombian Chicks, do not ask why, not for me. The hot ones are making a good living, but the average once it is probably pretty tough for them.
Mr Enternational
03-12-24, 06:35
And how do you that is a "they" versus a she or he? You do not. So when you say that "they" raised my rent because it was because a foreigner was paying for it, and you do not know that either, you are making up the "they".I come on ISG for mongering, not to teach you English. They can refer to a he or she as well as a group of people. I speak 5 languages. That is how I knew it was a they and not making it up. Finish high school first alright, because next time I am going to charge you for these lessons.
Mr Enternational
03-12-24, 06:49
I don't know any club or street girls in MDE. Some work at Hong Kong in Tijuana. Mostly from Seeking and some FB. I operate on a higher level.And you consider Hong Kong a higher level? Higher price sure. Higher level though? They even advertise Cascadas as a luxury hotel. If you agree with that then I know something is wrong. I have been in better $13 per day motels in downtown Medellin than Cascadas. And what do they charge now, at least $20 to take a chick from Hong Kong there for 1 hour?
Tiepolo2002
03-12-24, 11:56
Dear friends and fellow mongers.
I have been living in Latin America since 2012, and in Panama City (Panama) since 2019. I go and visit Colombia frequently for work, including Cartagena, where I have been two weeks ago.
I am not a newbie in the city and I manage to speak perfect Spanish, however I can still be spotted as a "gringo" (I am European).
My two options for accomodation are either in Bocagrande or in calm streets in the historical center. The city is not getting any better.
Street vendor is a constant harassment wherever you go; I have been to the beach of Playa Bomba with two girlfriends, and it is unbelievable how many vendors will approach you all the time. The average is one vendor every minute. The worst thing is that they will not leave after you say no, and they will stick around for a few minutes with a sad face and talking shit.
After you finally say "no" for the 20th time, they will leave.
Count until ten. Next vendor comes!
I have a group of Brazilian friends who recently visited the city and they were extremely disappointed and said that they will not come back ever.
The city is full of scams of every kind (taxi, cheap stuff sold overpriced, tours, SW, EVERYTHING is possibly a way to scam you).
The ladies around are not the best but you can spot some gorgeous ones. They will still try to scam you as well, so BEWARE.
Dear friends and fellow mongers.
I have been living in Latin America since 2012, and in Panama City (Panama) since 2019. I go and visit Colombia frequently for work, including Cartagena, where I have been two weeks ago.
I am not a newbie in the city and I manage to speak perfect Spanish, however I can still be spotted as a "gringo" (I am European).
My two options for accommodation are either in Bocagrande or in calm streets in the historical center. The city is not getting any better.
Street vendor is a constant harassment wherever you go; I have been to the beach of Playa Bomba with two girlfriends, and it is unbelievable how many vendors will approach you all the time. The average is one vendor every minute. The worst thing is that they will not leave after you say no, and they will stick around for a few minutes with a sad face and talking shit.
After you finally say "no" for the 20th time, they will leave..So you're saying that in 2024 it's the same thing many were saying in 2023,2022 and 2021. People are aware and have adapted, they know not to go to the public beaches and only go to the private ones the vendors cannot easily access.
I've seen many have learned to observe and adapt but also see many like to keep doing the same things and expect a different result but within time they come to the same conclusion and adapt as well. Some just take longer than others.
I would love to see what this 60 Mil BBFS in Medellinwho can go to Cartagena and charge $100 looks like to gauge what type of gringo is paying for something like that.The one with the glasses. Her name is Angeles but I believe she uses Paola as her hooker name. She's a 20 year old vennie but I think she's a big tussi head.
Mr Enternational
03-12-24, 16:37
I would love to see what this 60 Mil BBFS in Medellinwho can go to Cartagena and charge $100 looks like to gauge what type of gringo is paying for something like that.Dude, you just saw it in the post that old dude is looking for his Dolce girl from last year. You answered your own question.
I know who she is but she doesn't look like that anymore, she only wore that hair while she was working.
Anyway she managed to figure out how to sit at home and have these gringos send her money so she's now a travel chica. From what I've seen looks like she managed to line up 3 of her sponsors back to back for her birthday last month and went to Medellin, Gautape, Santa Martha, Minca, and San Andres.
You won't find her in the clubs anymore even if they open back up.So what you are telling us is that "she knows what she is worth" and is now "high end"? LOL! At least somebody finally posted pictures of one to kill the mystery. But I have a feeling that folks are still going to argue that their hooker is better than mine.
Mr Enternational
03-12-24, 16:58
Those Indians are on a whole other level. Every time I was in Pattaya I would always see about 5 of them negotiating for 1 girl and the look on the girls face through the whole conversation just seem extremely uncomfortable, then she goes with them with the most unpleasant face like they didn't even want to do it but they need the money.It just seemed that way from the outside looking in. The girls actually love it. I have talked to them. With 5 Indian guys they can get 1000 baht back to back and be out of there in 20 minutes. With other guys they are going to only get 1000 baht from somebody that wants to fuck forever.
The Indian discos are the most lucrative. They jack up the price on all the drinks and the girls charge at least 4000 baht. I get a lot of those girls coming over for 1000 baht before they go to the club. (Works the same way everywhere; get a little money over here and a lot of money over there. I guess they turn high end somewhere between my place and the club.) I took my buddy into one last week and he did not want to leave. Place is huge and packed to the rafters with chicks. They sell the guys fake money to throw. I felt sorry for the lady that had to sweep all that shit up.
The one with the glasses. Her name is Angeles but I believe she uses Paola as her hooker name. She's a 20 year old vennie but I think she's a big tussi head.Is she the one taking the selfie in the first picture? I can see why it's 60 MIL but whoever's paying $100 for that must be extremely drunk or the women that they are normally around looks much worse.
After see that first picture, the one who is taking the selfie the only thing that came to mind was this.
https://youtu.be/Ne6Ss9wiCmI?t=53
The one is the back in all black is cute but I'm I'm highly skeptical of the gender. Those traps make it hard to trust visually.
Dude, you just saw it in the post that old dude is looking for his Dolce girl from last year. You answered your own question. This is why it's important when people start throwing out prices it's good to see what it's attached to LOL.
I'll send him the info if they still interested but people be asking for shit then return after their trip saying they found something better and cheaper LOL.
So what you are telling us is that "she knows what she is worth" and is now "high end"? LOL! At least somebody finally posted pictures of one to kill the mystery. But I have a feeling that folks are still going to argue that their hooker is better than mine.Yes, she won't work in Cartagena, she receives money so she doesn't have a need to go out and work the clubs or street. Whoever takes her has to buy her a plane ticket and the bad thing is that when people jump on that "flying chicas out" if they have no history of staying with the girl for an extended period they have no idea how long it will take to get on each others nerves. Also chicas are starting to get smart, they are making the gringos send them the money to buy their own ticket so the gringo don't be on no hood shit trying not cancel their return flight because the chica didn't want to have a ton of sex.
PerkinWarbeck
03-12-24, 20:28
The police have moved further up into the plaza across the street from the Clock Tower. Not patrolling as much, but they are still there. I expect them to get super strict in the next few weeks. Semana Santa right around the corner.
70!? Damn we're 2 generations apart. Have all the sex you can while it all still works.That's the plan. Summer European trip and I am planning on staying a couple of extra days in Prague.
Is she the one taking the selfie in the first picture? I can see why it's 60 MIL but whoever's paying $100 for that must be extremely drunk or the women that they are normally around looks much worse.
After see that first picture, the one who is taking the selfie the only thing that came to mind was this.
https://youtu.be/Ne6Ss9wiCmI?t=53
The one is the back in all black is cute but I'm I'm highly skeptical of the gender. Those traps make it hard to trust visually.Either that or she is lying. About the $100. Then again all these dudes in Cartagena are saying they pay street girls like 300 mil and shit so $100 being 390 mil may not be that far off.
The one in the back in the first Pic I haven't fucked so I can't confirm her gender but the rest of them I have fucked. The one taking the selfie, the morena in the middle and the other one in black that looks druggie in the other Pic I have fucked all 3 of them and all bareback in the 60 mil to 80 mil range and they are all female.
The one in the back in the Pic with the 3 of them. I have yet to fuck.
AmorPorFavor
03-13-24, 04:57
I can prove that you guys in Cartagena are overpaying. This is Angeles a chica I met in Medellin in Plaza Botero. Here she charges 40 mil for a rato and I have gotten her to accept 60 mil for BBFS (I repeated a cpl times).
Anyways she says you guys are paying her $100 usd up there in Cartagena. Dame girl, same vagina, same service. Why the need to pay so much more??
And just to clarify, I'm not bitter mad or upset, in fact I haven't even been fucking her lately. I've been on to the next one. I'm just trying to understand the logic in paying $100 usd for something that costs $12 usd.
Its like Mac Dre said "I can sell an Eskimo ice at a high price and get him twice" in that analogy you guys are the Eskimos LOL.Might be true might not. Chicas lie a lot, especially about how much money other men pay them. Saw her pic, she's butt ugly.
Might be true might not. Chicas lie a lot, especially about how much money other men pay them. Saw her pic, she's butt ugly.Believe it or not I'm actually in agreement. I think she is Butt ugly but not necessarily hideous and I think she is most likely lying.
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I can prove that you guys in Cartagena are overpaying. This is Angeles a chica I met in Medellin in Plaza Botero. Here she charges 40 mil for a rato and I have gotten her to accept 60 mil for BBFS (I repeated a cpl times).
Anyways she says you guys are paying her $100 usd up there in Cartagena. Dame girl, same vagina, same service. Why the need to pay so much more??
And just to clarify, I'm not bitter mad or upset, in fact I haven't even been fucking her lately. I've been on to the next one. I'm just trying to understand the logic in paying $100 usd for something that costs $12 usd.
Its like Mac Dre said "I can sell an Eskimo ice at a high price and get him twice" in that analogy you guys are the Eskimos LOL.So my question is, if I met her in Cartagena and offered her 40 K for un rato would she take it or would she keep looking? If she would take 40 K but someone pays her 400 K (or $100) he is overpaying. If she wouldn't take the 40 K because she knows she can get $100 from the next guy, and that is her Cartagena rate, then we get into arguing over semantics. What if she came to my neighborhood and started charging $300/ HR? She would be the best value on the market here, so would I be "overpaying"?
By the way, how much would you pay her for a day on a boat out to the islands to go snorkeling in Medellin? My point is that the price of any product and service is based on more than its "functionality". Location is part of price. If I want to be in Cartagena and not Medellin, then what a girl charges in Medellin isn't really relevant.
So my question is, if I met her in Cartagena and offered her 40 K for un rato would she take it or would she keep looking? If she would take 40 K but someone pays her 400 K (or $100) he is overpaying. If she wouldn't take the 40 K because she knows she can get $100 from the next guy, and that is her Cartagena rate, then we get into arguing over semantics. What if she came to my neighborhood and started charging $300/ HR? She would be the best value on the market here, so would I be "overpaying"?
By the way, how much would you pay her for a day on a boat out to the islands to go snorkeling in Medellin? My point is that the price of any product and service is based on more than its "functionality". Location is part of price. If I want to be in Cartagena and not Medellin, then what a girl charges in Medellin isn't really relevant.Anyone paying her more than 40 k covered or 60 k BBFS is overpaying her. Regardless of whether it's in Medellin or Cartagena or wherever else you might choose to be.
P.S. Going snorkeling is a stupid waste of money.
Go ahead and pay her the Cartagena rate and take her snorkeling if you want but don't be trying to say that you didn't overpay and actually try to justify it, that is just stupid.
Elvis 2008
03-13-24, 15:20
I come on ISG for mongering, not to teach you English. They can refer to a he or she as well as a group of people.You need to go back to school, dummy. Per your own reference, "they" refers to a singular person only when gender is not defined. He or she refers to a single person of male or female sex, and you do not know who the fuck I am paying rent to or why the rent was raised. You are just making shit up.
What if she came to my neighborhood and started charging $300/ HR? She would be the best value on the market here, so would I be "overpaying"?
By applying this same logic to mcdonald's you would be saying that paying $18 for a Big Mac Combo at a mcdonald's inside an airport is not overpaying because the rate they charge is higher inside the airport eventhough we all know the same big Mac combo costs like $9 at a normal mcdonald's. There is no logic in that thinking. The airport mcdonald's is charging double for the same thing as the regular mcdonald's it is not suddenly worth more because it inside an airport, just as a street girl is not suddenly worth more because she went to Cartagena.
The only reason they can even get away with charging those higher prices is because guys like you come along and pay it.
By applying this same logic to mcdonald's you would be saying that paying $18 for a Big Mac Combo at a mcdonald's inside an airport is not overpaying because the rate they charge is higher inside the airport eventhough we all know the same big Mac combo costs like $9 at a normal mcdonald's. There is no logic in that thinking. The airport mcdonald's is charging double for the same thing as the regular mcdonald's it is not suddenly worth more because it inside an airport, just as a street girl is not suddenly worth more because she went to Cartagena.
The only reason they can even get away with charging those higher prices is because guys like you come along and pay it.If you are inside an airport a Big Mac combo inside the airport is definitely worth more than one outside the airport. You know why? BECAUSE YOU ARE INSIDE THE AIRPORT! The only thing that matters is how the $18 Big Mac combo compares to the shitty chicken salad wrap next to the Cokes in the cooler next door, or the $20 burrito in whatever faux Mexican fast food place is in that concourse.
If you don't want to pay $18 for a Big Mac combo here are some things you can do, along with their Cartagena equivalents:
1. Don't go to airports because the food is too expensive. (Don't go to Cartagena because the hookers are too expensive.).
2. Don't eat in airports because the food is too expensive. (Don't pay hookers in Cartagena because they are too expensive.).
3. Bring your own food to the airport. (Fly in a date from a cheaper city.).
4. Check out a bunch of places in the airport so you know your options and what they cost. (Look at ads, reviews, etc. To make sure you know the local market.).
5. Buy the chicken salad sandwich because it is less expensive. (Look for the chica who gives you the lowest rate.).
6. If the Big Mac combo is $18, make sure to check your order and your change. (Make sure you agree on time and services in advance and that there are no surprises later.).
If you want to do 7. Tell the girl at the counter that you only want to pay $8 because that's what they charge at the McDonalds in town. Well, good luck. I would rather do #4, know the local market, and find a chica who provides good value based on Cartagena prices.
I am not doing 1 or 2. I like Cartagena, I enjoy the city, it's an easy flight for me, and I am going to keep coming back. So, no thank you, 1 and 2 are out. This trip I happen to be doing #3, but on any trip anywhere I try to do 4 and 6. I look for what I want in terms of value, but I don't really do 5. I just don't do 7 at all. If I don't like her rate I move on. I'm not going to tell her what she should do based on what prices are somewhere else.
I will also give your opinion of snorkeling all the consideration it deserves. Oops, already did.
If you are inside an airport a Big Mac combo inside the airport is definitely worth more than one outside the airport. You know why? BECAUSE YOU ARE INSIDE THE AIRPORT! The only thing that matters is how the $18 Big Mac combo compares to the shitty chicken salad wrap next to the Cokes in the cooler next door, or the $20 burrito in whatever faux Mexican fast food place is in that concourse.
If you don't want to pay $18 for a Big Mac combo here are some things you can do, along with their Cartagena equivalents:
1. Don't go to airports because the food is too expensive. (Don't go to Cartagena because the hookers are too expensive.).
2. Don't eat in airports because the food is too expensive. (Don't pay hookers in Cartagena because they are too expensive.).
3. Bring your own food to the airport. (Fly in a date from a cheaper city.).
4. Check out a bunch of places in the airport so you know your options and what they cost. (Look at ads, reviews, etc. To make sure you know the local market.)..No the big Mac combo is not worth more because it is inside an airport. The same components go into it whether it's in the airport or in a suburb of Denver. The same hamburger buns, the same beef patties, same toppings, same potatoes for the fries, same fountain drink.
The value of what you are receiving is literally the same inside and outside of the airport just the price is different.
The best option would to be refrain from buying any food at the airport and save your money until you get to your destination and then go to a regular mcdonald's. So this equates to not partaking in mongering in the US and saving your $300 an hour and then spending it on mongering after you arrive in Colombia. This will result in more value received for the money that is spent. If you can't understand that then that is your problem.
And I'll say it again snorkeling is stupid you might as well pay to go golfing too while you are at it.
No the big Mac combo is not worth more because it is inside an airport. The same components go into it whether it's in the airport or in a suburb of Denver. The same hamburger buns, the same beef patties, same toppings, same potatoes for the fries, same fountain drink.
The value of what you are receiving is literally the same inside and outside of the airport just the price is different.
The best option would to be refrain from buying any food at the airport and save your money until you get to your destination and then go to a regular mcdonald's. So this equates to not partaking in mongering in the US and saving your $300 an hour and then spending it on mongering after you arrive in Colombia. This will result in more value received for the money that is spent. If you can't understand that then that is your problem.
And I'll say it again snorkeling is stupid you might as well pay to go golfing too while you are at it.Chasing your dick all over the world because you don't want to pay the local price of pussy is either stupid or infeasible or both. Sorry, I'm not going to stay celibate whenever I am in the USA Because you think pussy is to expensive, and I am not going to decide where I live based on the price of pussy. If you do that you may have an addiction problem.
No the big Mac combo is not worth more because it is inside an airport. The same components go into it whether it's in the airport or in a suburb of Denver.....Unless you do not count rent as a component and it is a little more complicated than that.
I think most of these girls have similar background and come from the same place so you are basically getting the same thing. If we only focus on outcome based on satisfaction level, you are the lucky one who can be happy spending far less and getting the same outcome.
Keep in mind, some people have specific taste, and they must spend more to get what you get. An example is street food vs restaurant. If we can do a blind test, one can get better food from the street than restaurant with much lower price easily, but there are people who simply don't want to eat street food. The people who can get the similar level of happiness from both will be happier. I would actually call these who can be happy with both are at higher level, relative to the one who can only be happy with just one choice. The ones who have to come to Colombia and spending more are more likely to be unhappy because they are limiting themselves and relatively speaking, there are people at even higher level that you can see just by what are being posted here that makes them low level based on that logic.
Chasing your dick all over the world because you don't want to pay the local price of pussy is either stupid or infeasible or both. Sorry, I'm not going to stay celibate whenever I am in the USA Because you think pussy is to expensive, and I am not going to decide where I live based on the price of pussy. If you do that you may have an addiction problem.Well seeing prostitution is illegal in the US it may in fact be you who has the addiction problem, considering you're willing to break the law and risk being caught up like the dudes down in Florida.
I think what I'm saying makes much more sense money wise and with what I'm saying you're doing everything legally and not at risk of getting caught up in a sting operation.
But go ahead and do what you do. Maybe we'll be reading your name in the newspapers one day.
Unless you do not count rent as a component and it is a little more complicated than that.
I think most of these girls have similar background and come from the same place so you are basically getting the same thing. If we only focus on outcome based on satisfaction level, you are the lucky one who can be happy spending far less and getting the same outcome.
Keep in mind, some people have specific taste, and they must spend more to get what you get. An example is street food vs restaurant. If we can do a blind test, one can get better food from the street than restaurant with much lower price easily, but there are people who simply don't want to eat street food. The people who can get the similar level of happiness from both will be happier. I would actually call these who can be happy with both are at higher level, relative to the one who can only be happy with just one choice. The ones who have to come to Colombia and spending more are more likely to be unhappy because they are limiting themselves and relatively speaking, there are people at even higher level that you can see just by what are being posted here that makes them low level based on that logic.Kind of hard to follow what you're trying to say Nounce. Are you on my side or are you taking the side of this idiot newbie with 33 posts who thinks that engaging in illegal activity in the US doesn't constitute a sex addiction but traveling to somewhere where it is legal is an addiction?
According to his logic all of us in would have an addiction.
HumpyDumpty11
03-14-24, 13:44
Hearing from people who have just left Cartagena, the first thing out the girls mouth is $100 but he said you counter with 200 or 250 mil and they take it immediately. Getting head for 100 or 150 mil. Guess the girls are trying their luck to catch a sucker but it sounds like the prices have been reset. Girls have to stay on the move walking the 2 block radius of Space — Alquimico — around the block — Delirium / VSOP — around the block and back at Space.
CaptainJavito
03-14-24, 14:14
I know who she is but she doesn't look like that anymore, she only wore that hair while she was working.
I remember around this time last year someone dropped her photo in a WhatsApp group saying some things about her, but she had already told me what happened with the gringo. Had to pull him aside in a private message and let him know that he cannot get mad at the chica and refuse to pay when his dick don't work because he's been sniffing too much.
Anyway she managed to figure out how to sit at home and have these gringos send her money so she's now a travel chica. From what I've seen looks like she managed to line up 3 of her sponsors back to back for her birthday last month and went to Medellin, Gautape, Santa Martha, Minca, and San Andres.
From her last post it looks like she's still in San Andres with a gringo.
You won't find her in the clubs anymore even if they open back up.Are you sure its the same girl? Can you give me her info so I can message her to meet her next week when I'm in Cartagena?
Casa No Va
03-14-24, 15:09
Either that or she is lying. About the $100. Then again all these dudes in Cartagena are saying they pay street girls like 300 mil and shit so $100 being 390 mil may not be that far off.
The one in the back in the first Pic I haven't fucked so I can't confirm her gender but the rest of them I have fucked. The one taking the selfie, the morena in the middle and the other one in black that looks druggie in the other Pic I have fucked all 3 of them and all bareback in the 60 mil to 80 mil range and they are all female.
The one in the back in the Pic with the 3 of them. I have yet to fuck.They all look like a fun romp for that price in Botero. The glasses girls smile is a bit big but guess the brackets are fixing that. Nice light skin on a Latina I like though. Funny how we are all drawn to looking at the cutie in the back in the first picture. And they say beauty scale is subjective haha LOL. Have fun Gabacho. If you add that girl in the back to your list please share the Love hahahaha. Happy hunting!
Kind of hard to follow what you're trying to say Nounce. Are you on my side or are you taking the side of this idiot newbie with 33 posts who thinks that engaging in illegal activity in the US doesn't constitute a sex addiction but traveling to somewhere where it is legal is an addiction?
According to his logic all of us in would have an addiction.If I want to make my answer short, I will say I am on your side. I look at this based on outcome. Assume all are happy, then it seems to me the one that spent less is better off because he will always have more choice and more money left assume everything else is equal. I can see some people can't make the same choice as you do so they have a higher level of spending. That maybe the part that confuses you.
You are using one example to generalize it. Not all girls will fit this profile. But I think most expensive girls must start somewhere and it usually is from the low end that often is based on where they are from. If she is from Bello, then her price will be Bello price. A few years later, when they have more mileage, some may get Dubai price. One can sometimes see this played out in the Medellin thread but they just did not know it since they were new and did not know the history.
PerkinWarbeck
03-14-24, 22:30
Was in Centro for dinner last night with the missus. There were a surprising amount of muchachas just outside the area around Torre Reloj for a Wednesday. Police were there too, but not bothering the ladies.
LaddooKhaao
03-15-24, 05:01
Are the following reliable and safe?
Lasnenasbogota.
Missgorgeous.
Diamondsbogota.
Looks like they have presence in CTG.
PerkinWarbeck
03-15-24, 20:34
Are the following reliable and safe?
Lasnenasbogota.
Missgorgeous.
Diamondsbogota.
Looks like they have presence in CTG.Don't bother with any agencies, brother. There is not enough of a segmented customer base for high end escorts to be a thing. The closest you will get are the part timers on Seeking that hunt gringos. Some of them speak some English, and they try to upsell you based on that. The experience is largely the same.
Are you sure its the same girl? Can you give me her info so I can message her to meet her next week when I'm in Cartagena?I know it's the same dolce girl, but I'm telling you you will need to get her a plane ticket and take her out of Cartagena, or go to Baru or something, she's not going to do a 1 night or 1 hour with a gringo it's full days and nights staying with the gringo.
I posted a photo for context, how about you tell me if it's the same chica? Jajaj.
Hearing from people who have just left Cartagena, the first thing out the girls mouth is $100 but he said you counter with 200 or 250 mil and they take it immediately. Getting head for 100 or 150 mil. Guess the girls are trying their luck to catch a sucker but it sounds like the prices have been reset. Girls have to stay on the move walking the 2 block radius of Space Alquimico around the block Delirium / VSOP around the block and back at Space.The confusion with this is no one knows what them chicas look like and what services the gringos are asking for. So a chica might throw out $100 for a hour FS and the gringo might counter with 250 mi because he doesn't need the full hour and only wants 30 minutes.
From what I'm hearing and seeing the majority of good girls that were there have left to USA or MDE to earn more.
Those of us who live in major cities or Sanctuary cities know where the good ones are. As the folks in West Texas what their choices look like now, or the ones in Houston, or Miami or NYC. The majority cute young Vennies and Colombianas went where the men are custom to paying more for a woman.
Are the following reliable and safe?
Lasnenasbogota.
Missgorgeous.
Diamondsbogota.
Looks like they have presence in CTG.If you're going to a country where you can literally walk out side and pick a girl like you were shopping for produce at an open market, why are you trying to sit behind a screen and place an order to be delivered?
I know it's the same dolce girl, but I'm telling you you will need to get her a plane ticket and take her out of Cartagena, or go to Baru or something, she's not going to do a 1 night or 1 hour with a gringo it's full days and nights staying with the gringo.
I posted a photo for context, how about you tell me if it's the same chica? Jajaj.She doesn't look any better than the girls in the 3 pics I posted last week.
Well seeing prostitution is illegal in the US it may in fact be you who has the addiction problem, considering you're willing to break the law and risk being caught up like the dudes down in Florida.
I think what I'm saying makes much more sense money wise and with what I'm saying you're doing everything legally and not at risk of getting caught up in a sting operation.
But go ahead and do what you do. Maybe we'll be reading your name in the newspapers one day.I doubt either of the two girls I see here, or those I see in a couple of other cities, are going to report me. I mean maybe I am not quite as safe as in Medellin, where nobody ever gets robbed, beaten, arrested, or killed, right?
I agree that starving yourself makes sense money wise, so you do that. I will eat when I am hungry. You go and live where everything is cheapest; I will live where everything is best. Enjoy. Maybe some day you will save enough money to die rich.
PerkinWarbeck
03-17-24, 21:15
Was in Centro last night for dinner with my girl. Tons of girls on the street to the right as you are entering the square. Police are there, but not stopping anyone. My girl went to the bathroom in Alquimico, and two rizaditas cornered me. 150 k for each for an hour. Those types of threesomes are usually a huge waste of time, but I did get their Whatapp. Will test and see.
She doesn't look any better than the girls in the 3 pics I posted last week.This is why anyone coming into the forums, discord groups, WhatsApp groups and Facebook groups asking for 8's, 9's, and 10's usually gets ignored and when I ask them for clarification on what that number pertains to them to help them find what they are looking for by asking simple questions "if they like them big / slim, light / dark, older / younger, kids / no kids, natural / fake tits and or ass, tall / short, etc" they usually either don't respond or respond in the most vague way possible but they are still looking for this 8, 9, 10 that only they find attractive.
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder but I would take his fly out chica over the 60 mil Night Fury you posted (toothless), or that cute one in the back with the questionable gender.
Can you take one for the team and find out if they are packing huevos down there? Jajaja.
BroncosRob
03-18-24, 17:54
I'm planning a visit to Cartagena. Is it worth a trip to Medellin while I'm visiting the beaches and mongering. What is best mongering city in Columbia?
This is why anyone coming into the forums, discord groups, WhatsApp groups and Facebook groups asking for 8's, 9's, and 10's usually gets ignored and when I ask them for clarification on what that number pertains to them to help them find what they are looking for by asking simple questions "if they like them big / slim, light / dark, older / younger, kids / no kids, natural / fake tits and or ass, tall / short, etc" they usually either don't respond or respond in the most vague way possible but they are still looking for this 8, 9, 10 that only they find attractive.
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder but I would take his fly out chica over the 60 mil Night Fury you posted (toothless), or that cute one in the back with the questionable gender.
Can you take one for the team and find out if they are packing huevos down there? Jajaja.Jajajajaja that last part literally made me laugh out loud LOL. I'm currently in Pereira with no plans of going to Cartagena so probably not going to happen bro.
If they're back in Medellin when I get back next time then I will investigate and report back LOL.
Turns out Space is closed for good. To be replaced by generic hookah bar. As all the news would need boots on the ground for if it's still a working girl bar. Imo, if it's a first timer I wouldn't go to Cartagena as I felt Clocktower / Walled City clubs was such an easy, relatively safe, and efficient spot for beginners.
For the Spanish proficient, vets, guys who stay 10+ days then the long game works in your favor. But it's no long a good plug & play spot. Agencies, prepagos sites, apps are active but not really different than MDE BOG. Edge to Cartagena if you need beach.
Turns out Space is closed for good. To be replaced by generic hookah bar. As all the news would need boots on the ground for if it's still a working girl bar. Imo, if it's a first timer I wouldn't go to Cartagena as I felt Clocktower / Walled City clubs was such an easy, relatively safe, and efficient spot for beginners.
For the Spanish proficient, vets, guys who stay 10+ days then the long game works in your favor. But it's no long a good plug & play spot. Agencies, prepagos sites, apps are active but not really different than MDE BOG. Edge to Cartagena if you need beach.What kept Space afloat was that's where a wide range of chicas were and the gringos were going there to put on a show to attract the chicas in there which was highly unnecessary but some people can't leave old habits at home. Space was being killed off for a while now as most of the hip hop crowd went over to Delirium and the chicas followed because that's who was throwing money. Space got the leftovers who were rejected by Dolce and most of them 4 x T shirt wearing beer belly gringos wasn't trying to take on them stairs. Also didn't help that they didn't own the building and had to pay rent. Reopening as a hookah bar will only put it in competition with Monkey Bar where nobody goes because it's filled with the same type of women men got on planes to get away from.
There was also talks about a strip club getting shut down outside the walls, I guess they didn't like that they had rooms on site for sex.
The people of Cartagena wanted this, they wanted their city cleaned up but that means getting rid of certain elements that attracted certain types of people, let them all return to Sosua to get them turkeys walking around in yoga pants jajaja.
I stopped doing the clubs a while back, happy I did, my experience became much better once I got away from certain type of people, especially the ones with volume control problems. Your right, first timers are fucked, not only are they going to get hit in the head for high prices in dollars they have a more limited selection and lost the ability to walk into a club and see a bunch of chicas at once and pick what fits their budget. It's also going to effect those mongers who never maintained communication with past chicas and always believed a new one is right around the corner or they want a new one every night. The ones who have a stable full or connections to friends of friends don't need to worry about 3 clubs, a clocktower and an annoying beach. Specifically making an instagram to keep in touch with all chicas I've come across for the last 5 years was the best thing I've ever done.
I can't wait to see what's it's going to look like once summer hits, let's see how long this new Mayor and the Medellin Mayor can keep this up.
JackTaggart
03-20-24, 05:54
I can prove that you guys in Cartagena are overpaying. This is Angeles a chica I met in Medellin in Plaza Botero. Here she charges 40 mil for a rato and I have gotten her to accept 60 mil for BBFS (I repeated a cpl times).
Anyways she says you guys are paying her $100 usd up there in Cartagena. Dame girl, same vagina, same service. Why the need to pay so much more??
And just to clarify, I'm not bitter mad or upset, in fact I haven't even been fucking her lately. I've been on to the next one. I'm just trying to understand the logic in paying $100 usd for something that costs $12 usd.
Its like Mac Dre said "I can sell an Eskimo ice at a high price and get him twice" in that analogy you guys are the Eskimos LOL.Not directly related to cartegena. Its Bogota in Chapinero. But this is a 19 year old that my buddy and I have been fucking GFE BBFS cip for 100 mil in a casa for 30 to 40 minutes. She won't give a face pic. But she's super cute.
This next comment is not meant to be argumentative. But those girls from the posted pictures on this topic from the last few days are super ratchet. I wouldn't fuck them for free with or without a condom. Seriously.
It all goes towards the fact that the rating of 8's, 9's, 10's is meaningless. I would suggest that clearly 1 to 5 is agreed upon to be unfuckable though. But the idea that any of the women in pictures from the last few days would be a woman that you would pay hundreds for and wine/dine on a trip for insane to me. But no judgement. We are all into different woman.
Mr Enternational
03-20-24, 07:42
But this is a 19 year old that my buddy and I have been fucking GFE BBFS cipIf you AND your buddy have been fucking her and skeeting in her pussy, then that seems the exact opposite of a girlfriend experience. Pornstar experience maybe.
JackTaggart
03-20-24, 13:50
If you AND your buddy have been fucking her and skeeting in her pussy, then that seems the exact opposite of a girlfriend experience. Pornstar experience maybe.Perhaps it was poorly phrased. We are separately fucking her in the casa. Much more romantic that way.
I'm defining GFE as sensual, cuddling, kissing. But it is a casa after all. So maybe I should say GFE lite. Definitely not pornstar experience.
But in Bogota you can pay 200,000 for an even better looking (for me) 19-22 year old university student to come to your apartment or motel for true GFE for 2, 3 or more hours. These are not photoprepagaros girls. I have a few regulars now in the rotation. Personaly I like to balance my regulars out with a few casa girls because the casa doesn't really require much scheduling or planning.
Most of these girls I see won't travel though. Or won't easily because of their school and work schedules. Currently only 1 of mine is willing to. So maybe their prices would get ruined if they started to go to Cartegena.And maybe this lack of ability to travel keeps the pricing down.
I would pay double though for my current experiences. But I just don't need to.
Not directly related to cartegena. Its Bogota in Chapinero. But this is a 19 year old that my buddy and I have been fucking GFE BBFS cip for 100 mil in a casa for 30 to 40 minutes. She won't give a face pic. But she's super cute.
This next comment is not meant to be argumentative. But those girls from the posted pictures on this topic from the last few days are super ratchet. I wouldn't fuck them for free with or without a condom. Seriously.
It all goes towards the fact that the rating of 8's, 9's, 10's is meaningless. I would suggest that clearly 1 to 5 is agreed upon to be unfuckable though. But the idea that any of the women in pictures from the last few days would be a woman that you would pay hundreds for and wine/dine on a trip for insane to me. But no judgement. We are all into different woman.How long this "100 mil" been going on and how long that chica been working?
If this chica was to hop on a plane and go to Cartagena. Would she also be doing GFE BBFS for 100 mil for 30 - 40 minutes or would she be instantly talking in dollars saying $100?
She's 19, it appears she doesn't know any better or haven't been anywhere else outside of Bogota to know any better. Wait until she's 21 or she gets a little more experience in working in other places and watch that 100 mil increase or no more BBFS. Or a gringo comes along and offers to take her to Baru or San Andres for a weekend, that's all it takes.
People normally pay according to where they are and the type of girl they get is according to what their budget allows and when the girls are young and inexperienced it's blood in the water.
For example, about a year or so ago I mentioned Isabel in a post trying to charge 800 mil a night one night I was in Delirium. When I first met her on tinder in 2021 she was 400 mil for the night, I didn't take her because I found another girl who was more in shape. It wasn't until after, I discovered the reason why she doubled was because one person decided to try pass her off as a regular girl and interview her throwing a bunch of thirsty ass gringos her way blowing up her head. Now she thinks she's worth that high price because guys blew her head up. Last time I saw her walking in centro she gained more weight but some people like them big and pay the asked price.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF9gKGH1eCo
Perhaps it was poorly phrased. We are separately fucking her in the casa. Much more romantic that way.
I'm defining GFE as sensual, cuddling, kissing. But it is a casa after all. So maybe I should say GFE lite. Definitely not pornstar experience.
But in Bogota you can pay 200,000 for an even better looking (for me) 19-22 year old university student to come to your apartment or motel for true GFE for 2, 3 or more hours. These are not photoprepagaros girls. I have a few regulars now in the rotation. Personaly I like to balance my regulars out with a few casa girls because the casa doesn't really require much scheduling or planning.
Most of these girls I see won't travel though. Or won't easily because of their school and work schedules. Currently only 1 of mine is willing to. So maybe their prices would get ruined if they started to go to Cartegena.And maybe this lack of ability to travel keeps the pricing down.
I would pay double though for my current experiences. But I just don't need to.What I highly dislike about this forum is the time it takes for the Mods to review and approve a post. TBH is is why I prefer the discord and WhatsApp groups instant info.
Your post basically sums up what I replied to this morning about the previous post jajaja.
The chicas inexperience and lack of ability to travel keeps the prices dirt cheap to her geo location. Once they venture out to Cartagena or another gringo comes along and offer more, those dirt prices for premium services will stop.
Not directly related to cartegena. Its Bogota in Chapinero. But this is a 19 year old that my buddy and I have been fucking GFE BBFS cip for 100 mil in a casa for 30 to 40 minutes. She won't give a face pic. But she's super cute.
This next comment is not meant to be argumentative. But those girls from the posted pictures on this topic from the last few days are super ratchet. I wouldn't fuck them for free with or without a condom. Seriously.
It all goes towards the fact that the rating of 8's, 9's, 10's is meaningless. I would suggest that clearly 1 to 5 is agreed upon to be unfuckable though. But the idea that any of the women in pictures from the last few days would be a woman that you would pay hundreds for and wine/dine on a trip for insane to me. But no judgement. We are all into different woman.She looks good bro!
I wouldn't mind skeeting in her pussy as well LOL.
Not bad for 100 mil COP.
Cheers!
Mr Enternational
03-21-24, 02:53
If this chica was to hop on a plane and go to Cartagena. Would she also be doing GFE BBFS for 100 mil for 30 - 40 minutes or would she be instantly talking in dollars saying $100?
She's 19, it appears she doesn't know any better or haven't been anywhere else outside of Bogota to know any better. Wait until she's 21 or she gets a little more experience in working in other places and watch that 100 mil increase or no more BBFS. Or a gringo comes along and offers to take her to Baru or San Andres for a weekend, that's all it takes.Exactly. You are comparing apples and oranges. Apples being local and oranges being gringos. It is not that she is worth this or she knows her worth. It is that gringos are going to come along and put prices out of the local equilibrium. In cities where there is no gringo market, you don't get chicks trying to charge 800,000 pesos. They would never get a customer.
It says nothing to how good the chick looks as some gringos want to say. It says everything to who the primary customers in the particular zone are. The girls are not setting any prices as much as the customers are. If no dudes are paying 800,000, then no chicks are trying to charge 800,000.
It is not how folks try to put it in comparison to cars. Ferrari has high research and development costs and the material that they source for their products is not cheap, therefore the prices are higher than a Ford.
All a chick with a pussy needs is bus fare to show up. And half the time she can even suck the taxi driver's dick for a free ride or if met online tell the gringo to be ready to pay the taxi when she arrives. The only factor leading her to charge 800,000 or ask for money in dollars is that the gringos have paid 800,000 or paid in dollars. If not for gringos there would be hardly any chicks around asking for over 100,000 pesos. When it comes to buying pussy overseas, foreigners are their own worst enemy.
Exactly. You are comparing apples and oranges. Apples being local and oranges being gringos. It is not that she is worth this or she knows her worth. It is that gringos are going to come along and put prices out of the local equilibrium. In cities where there is no gringo market, you don't get chicks trying to charge 800,000 pesos. They would never get a customer.
It says nothing to how good the chick looks as some gringos want to say. It says everything to who the primary customers in the particular zone are. The girls are not setting any prices as much as the customers are. If no dudes are paying 800,000, then no chicks are trying to charge 800,000.
It is not how folks try to put it in comparison to cars. Ferrari has high research and development costs and the material that they source for their products is not cheap, therefore the prices are higher than a Ford.
All a chick with a pussy needs is bus fare to show up. And half the time she can even suck the taxi driver's dick for a free ride or if met online tell the gringo to be ready to pay the taxi when she arrives. The only factor leading her to charge 800,000 or ask for money in dollars is that the gringos have paid 800,000 or paid in dollars. If not for gringos there would be hardly any chicks around asking for over 100,000 pesos. When it comes to buying pussy overseas, foreigners are their own worst enemy.Exactly. That's why I like going to places like cucuta or Villavicencio even. You get the real unadulterated prices. Something these guys know nothing about.
Exactly. You are comparing apples and oranges. Apples being local and oranges being gringos. It is not that she is worth this or she knows her worth. It is that gringos are going to come along and put prices out of the local equilibrium. In cities where there is no gringo market, you don't get chicks trying to charge 800,000 pesos. They would never get a customer.
It says nothing to how good the chick looks as some gringos want to say. It says everything to who the primary customers in the particular zone are. The girls are not setting any prices as much as the customers are. If no dudes are paying 800,000, then no chicks are trying to charge 800,000.
Takes me back to this post 2 years ago http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2664834&viewfull=1#post2664834.
When I met her from Tinder in 2021 it was 400 mil for the night, I tried it once, but couldn't get past the heavy makeup on an older face looking like an Ewok. When I came back in 2022 I saw her in Dolce and she wanted $100 for the hour. I passed.
She got exposed to overpaying gringos and they were flying her out in Mexico. By the start of 2023 some gringo brought her to the NYC area and she is posting all over, Vegas, Montreal, NJ, NYC, etc.
I don't know who brought her here but best of luck to them trying to make a pro a wife.
Exactly. That's why I like going to places like cucuta or Villavicencio even. You get the real unadulterated prices. Something these guys know nothing about.So to my understanding the price of pussy is dirt cheap where there is increased danger of being kidnapped or worse and as soon as increased safety occurs with police presence then more gringos go there and mess up the prices.
I doubt many gringos are going to be trying to do Google translate in A town bordering Venezuela or another off to the side of the capital jajaja.
She got exposed to overpaying gringos and they were flying her out in Mexico. By the start of 2023 some gringo brought her to the NYC area and she is posting all over, Vegas, Montreal, NJ, NYC, etc..Kinda wack when these places get SIMPed Out.
So to my understanding the price of pussy is dirt cheap where there is increased danger of being kidnapped or worse and as soon as increased safety occurs with police presence then more gringos go there and mess up the prices.
I doubt many gringos are going to be trying to do Google translate in A town bordering Venezuela or another off to the side of the capital jajaja.You may be right although I've never felt unsafe in Cucuta on LA septima or in villao around parque del acha. I spent a week in villa del Rosario, norte de Santander. And even went to La Parada which is where the puente international simón Bolívar is located that connects Colombia to San Antonia de Táchira in Venezuela. I didn't cross it though LOL I just went there to pick up Joselis who was coming from Maracay, Aragua to stay with me at the Airbnb.
Also I don't use Google Translate. I don't need it. And some of these places I'm mentioning it wouldn't be wise to be pulling out your phone all the time anyways.
Gabacho.
Mr Enternational
03-22-24, 03:48
Kinda wack when these places get SIMPed Out.LOL. But absolutely nothing we can do about it. Why guys don't find normal girlfriends for shit like this instead of hookers I will never understand. Nah I can't go to Italy with you next week because Peter from Germany is taking me to Japan. Nobody is paying me to travel the third week two months from there so I can go then. Sounds weird. I guess I am just not into hookers that much. Or I am more into the old school fucking part of their job versus the new school escorting part of their job.
You guys are out here arguing about how much to pay a girl for services, but what about ice cream prices? Why does it cost $8-12 for a quart of mediocre ice cream in Colombia? I think if someone can figure out how to sell quality ice cream for cheap they'the have enough money to pay whatever price for whatever service in the world.Nice try bud, this was 13,049 COP ($3.35 usd) at D1.
Same quality as thrifty ice cream sold at Rite Aid in the US.
So to my understanding the price of pussy is dirt cheap where there is increased danger of being kidnapped or worse and as soon as increased safety occurs with police presence then more gringos go there and mess up the prices.
I doubt many gringos are going to be trying to do Google translate in A town bordering Venezuela or another off to the side of the capital jajaja.There are some gringos that do go to Cucuta tho. Alot of the girls I know from Cucuta always ask me if I know a guy named Spencer LOL. I'm not sure why they think I would know him because I don't even know who he is but I have repeatedly been asked by multiple girls in Cucuta if I know him.
Mr Enternational
03-23-24, 00:38
So to my understanding the price of pussy is dirt cheap where there is increased danger of being kidnapped or worse and as soon as increased safety occurs with police presence then more gringos go there and mess up the prices.It seems the gringo circuit in Medellin does not fit that. There are increased prices AND increased danger at the moment.
It seems the gringo circuit in Medellin does not fit that. There are increased prices AND increased danger at the moment.I believe with Medellin the uptick of certain individuals advertising on YouTube what happens there attracted a certain demographic of people that were too loud and that attracted the organized crimes rather than the normal opportunistic ones and what that did was make all demographics targets. It also didn't help that some of these people were first time travelers and did the idiotic thing of watching heavily edited YouTube videos showing all the good things without informing them of the dangers.
An example would be the 2 Asians that were killed, the first one looked like a quiet student who just wanted a tinder date on his first trip and the second one was loud as fuck always in Medellin in the clubs partying with multiple girls. What's amazing is that the government didn't really start doing anything until 2 Asians were killed, when everyone else's killed they immediately labeled them as sex tourists and the comments sections under the articles were crazy.
What's funny was these same YouTubes that hid the dangers and only show the good times are now coming forward telling stories of their past travels to Colombia of them being robbed or had a scary situation because that's what's trending and hitting the algorithm. The same shit they were ashamed to tell people 5 years ago is the same shit they are trying to use as a badge at the end of 2023.
For the Spanish proficient, vets, guys who stay 10+ days then the long game works in your favor. But it's no long a good plug & play spot. Agencies, prepagos sites, apps are active but not really different than MDE BOG. Edge to Cartagena if you need beach.I am planning on spending a week there in mid-April with a girl from a previous date. That is basically the only way I would go there now. The deciding factor for me is the hotel situation and the hassle of finding a place that will let you bring girls back. Last trip I booked at a hotel that was on a "guest-friendly" list, and it wasn't. I ended up hooking up with a Mileroticos chica for the duration because once I listed her as my "second guest" she was the only one I could bring back. Not that I was complaining much, but it's a severe limitation.
My Spanish is good enough to do a Mileroticos date, but I think I am a year away from Cucuta level LOL. For me, (fortunately) prices are down the list of issues with Cartagena. Less availability, less nightlife in Centro, more hassles, and the hotel restrictions are bigger issues for me. I have done the casa thing, and I have done a couple of local incalls in Cartagena, and that just isn't what I am looking for at my age.
KapnAmerica
03-23-24, 23:04
Space got the leftovers who were rejected by Dolce and most of them 4 x T shirt wearing beer belly gringos wasn't trying to take on them stairs. Also didn't help that they didn't own the building and had to pay rent. Reopening as a hookah bar will only put it in competition with Monkey Bar where nobody goes because it's filled with the same type of women men got on planes to get away from. Jaja. I've never been to Cartagena but I love the analysis here. I am planning to meet up there with my GF from Medellíand in mid-April. Sounds like a place I would not want to be mongering anyway.
PerkinWarbeck
03-26-24, 17:09
It's Semana Santa, and downtown is festive! They are setting up the structures for the festivals including an awesome food festival later this week. Some families were watching some Easter themed programming on a big screen in the square when I walked by yesterday evening.
And they have returned to being strict. The police are pushing the girls as far from the square as possible at night. I don't think it is affecting much though. The end of this week marks the end of high season for tourism. I think we'll see relaxation of the rules on working women as soon as April.
And the muchachos offering weed or coke have basically disappeared. Haven't been propositioned in two months. Crazy.
So what are the best clubs to hit in Bogota? I will be making my first trip there in April. I plan to get one way ticket from Medellin this way I can stay or leave when I want. Also do the hotels in Bogota upcharge for having visitors?Some are cheaper with less quality and some are better-- all within 2 blocks plus tons of Hot Streety Sweeties-- Have Fun-- Most guys do-- Some Dickheads don't --LOL.
GeorgeCarta22
03-30-24, 08:47
I was just here in Nov. And now heard all the clubs are closing?
I tried to go back 7 pages to find the answer but I can't keep searching for it.
Anyone havea tldr?
JohnnyWishBone
03-30-24, 12:57
So what are the best clubs to hit in Bogota? I will be making my first trip there in April. I plan to get one way ticket from Medellin this way I can stay or leave when I want. Also do the hotels in Bogota upcharge for having visitors?At admin I think this thread needs to be moved across to the Bogotá forum.
I was just here in Nov. And now heard all the clubs are closing?
I tried to go back 7 pages to find the answer but I can't keep searching for it.
Anyone havea tldr?You don't need to read all the posts in this section. You just have to know which members give up to date information and view their post history for this section.
The answer is within those 7 pages.
Elvis 2008
03-31-24, 03:41
The people of Cartagena wanted this, they wanted their city cleaned up but that means getting rid of certain elements that attracted certain types of people, let them all return to Sosua to get them turkeys walking around in yoga pants jajaja.
I stopped doing the clubs a while back, happy I did, my experience became much better once I got away from certain type of people, especially the ones with volume control problems. Your right, first timers are fucked, not only are they going to get hit in the head for high prices in dollars they have a more limited selection and lost the ability to walk into a club and see a bunch of chicas at once and pick what fits their budget. It's also going to effect those mongers who never maintained communication with past chicas and always believed a new one is right around the corner or they want a new one every night. The ones who have a stable full or connections to friends of friends don't need to worry about 3 clubs, a clocktower and an annoying beach. Specifically making an instagram to keep in touch with all chicas I've come across for the last 5 years was the best thing I've ever done.
I can't wait to see what's it's going to look like once summer hits, let's see how long this new Mayor and the Medellin Mayor can keep this up.Good job on the IG record. That was smart. FWIW, my gal loves the mayor. She is thrilled that the clock tower area and the hookers there have been shut down. Apparently, the mayor has set up a hot line to report crimes. I googled and it could not find it.
Remember the Obama Secret Service scandal? A chick has sex with a well muscled secret serviceman and tries to shake him down for $800 and hotel security wrote up the incident and the SS agents got in trouble? Or the one with the monger guy Dubliner on here who had a similar incident where he called the police when the hookers would not leave and the police told him to give the hookers the money? Yeah, I do not think you are going to be seeing the police doing that anymore. At this point, I would actually be in favor of filing police reports as the mayor actually seems to be trying to do something about it versus taking the side of hookers and thieves. It was not too long where I read they had a Cartagena police chief actually involved with the hooker trade.
I am not sure if it is the crime crack down but the number of civilian hotties on the streets has never been higher. Beauties were everywhere.
The pico and placa system that is in place in Bogota to control traffic was implemented in Cartagena. Traffic was way down. It was nice. I am not sure how long that is in effect.
Other new thing was having to take your shoes off at the airport in Colombia with security like in the USA. Not sure why that started now but it is what it is.
Good job on the IG record. That was smart. FWIW, my gal loves the mayor. She is thrilled that the clock tower area and the hookers there have been shut down. Apparently, the mayor has set up a hot line to report crimes. I googled and it could not find it.
Remember the Obama Secret Service scandal? A chick has sex with a well muscled secret serviceman and tries to shake him down for $800 and hotel security wrote up the incident and the SS agents got in trouble? Or the one with the monger guy Dubliner on here who had a similar incident where he called the police when the hookers would not leave and the police told him to give the hookers the money? Yeah, I do not think you are going to be seeing the police doing that anymore. At this point, I would actually be in favor of filing police reports as the mayor actually seems to be trying to do something about it versus taking the side of hookers and thieves. It was not too long where I read they had a Cartagena police chief actually involved with the hooker trade.
I am not sure if it is the crime crack down but the number of civilian hotties on the streets has never been higher. Beauties were everywhere.
The pico and placa system that is in place in Bogota to control traffic was implemented in Cartagena. Traffic was way down. It was nice. I am not sure how long that is in effect.
Other new thing was having to take your shoes off at the airport in Colombia with security like in the USA. Not sure why that started now but it is what it is.I've been here for 2 weeks. I have 1 more week to go. Big fucking mistake on my part. This Holy Week is the worst. Everybody and their dog is out here. After a few days of Cartagena I left with my chica to the Pablo water Park thinking I would get away from certain things, nope. Shit was packed beyond packed.
I got caught up in that shit too getting extorted by the cops where they put the check point going into El Laguito Hotel Caribe. Spoke to other gringos that encountered the same.
Oh about that Dublin12 guy who decided to ignore all the advice and warnings everyone gave him and ended up with constant bad scenarios, he changed his username. Something I've never seen before. But it was one hell of a laugh.
Further to my most recent post, I promised a trip report. I thought you might be interested in hearing of my misadventures. This rapidly became the holiday in hell.
I won't bore you with all the problems I had trying to book this, but between my bank, the credit card co, and Colombian bureaucracy, I should have taken the hint, that this was never going to end well.
This one is a good read jajaja.
This one is a good read jajaja.That guy literally did everything wrong LOL. They even stole his groceries LOL these Venecas are fucking scandalous, however he might as well have had 'Papaya' tattooed on his forehead LOL.
CaptainJavito
04-02-24, 05:34
I know it's the same dolce girl, but I'm telling you you will need to get her a plane ticket and take her out of Cartagena, or go to Baru or something, she's not going to do a 1 night or 1 hour with a gringo it's full days and nights staying with the gringo.
I posted a photo for context, how about you tell me if it's the same chica? Jajaj.Yo I can't open pictures to see them bigger but the hair looks the same. Anyway I already left Cartagena. Its not how it was when I was there before. Everything is more expensive, hotels, girls, food, activities and club restrictions. Only Space and ISIS was open and hardly had girls. I found a different girl for 500.000 COP an hour who had similar a similar hairstyle. Not the best decision but pickings were slim to none on looks alone.
Yo I can't open pictures to see them bigger but the hair looks the same. Anyway I already left Cartagena. Its not how it was when I was there before. Everything is more expensive, hotels, girls, food, activities and club restrictions. Only Space and ISIS was open and hardly had girls. I found a different girl for 500.000 COP an hour who had similar a similar hairstyle. Not the best decision but pickings were slim to none on looks alone.Similar hair? Hopefully it wasnt Gaby / Marie. Jajaja.
Just about every youtuber done ran through her, she's all over youtube.
If your able to post pictures then you should be able to open as well, no?
Glad you had fun, and your experience is why I always say make sure the information is current and relevant to what the traveler is trying to do.
So I've only had 3 days total in Cartagena during a 3 week duration, 2 days on arrival and 1 day on departure.
With in those 3 days I can say based on my last 2 trips the new annoyance are "city girls" trying to "turn up". I thought the jordans, beer bellies, yankee fittits mongers were bad but these fuzzy bedroom shoes, triple nose rings, heavy lashes and bright color weaves are on another level. Upon arriving a Latam plane arrived infront of mine and there they were. Loud AF on the immigration line, disorganized when speaking to the the immigration officer, when the porter came to do the whole "bag assistance" thing they got louder, then they couldn't lift the bags to put them on the xray machine and got louder looking in my direction like I'm supposed to help them, I just put my shits on the belt and walked through. I'm outside by the exchange waiting for my chica to pull the car up and they came out and the cute short taxi girl with the glasses tried to get them a taxi and they got loud again, a few other brothers were there, we all looked at each other and just shook our heads.
I'm surprised no one mentioned how they are digging up the streets in Centro, at quick glance looks like they are laying down SDR35, (green sewer drainage pipe) to handle the flooding during the heavy rains. They were digging up the side by Delirium and the other side by the bakery (north of Space). Many areas still fenced off. I didn't stay in El Laguito or Centro as I wanted to avoid certain types of people and annoyances.
Traffic also got a bit more complicated. Looks like they installed new medians behind La Serrezuela Mall to prevent left turns when exiting, I also vaguely remember the same thing down by Getsemani on Calle 30 by the bridge when we were going to Seven 7.
Old news but someone will be oblivious to it. Space is now Omnia, when I was there chicas weren't allowed inside unless with a man. So chicas who knew I was there asked me to come down and let them in so they can work. It was mostly a sausage fest until then.
Upon leaving, I completely forgot to do the ChkMIG and I was not asked for it, I also ignored the Contact Tracing Email Jet Blue wanted me to fill out. They pointed me to the BIOMIG machine instead of a immigration officer, and it took longer because the machine took 3 tries to scan my passport, then I didn't realize I had to get close to the camera. I thought it was supposed to take a picture of my entire face like Global Entry but looks likes it wanted a picture of my eyes.
A good trip besides being there Holy Week, too many damn families and annoying kids. Happy I went away from the gringo tourist areas and checked out the local vacation areas, maybe another time when its not a Colombia holiday because the lines were long for everything.
I don't have any plans on returning to Colombia this year, most of my chicas are now state side and these city girls trying to "turn up" all the time makes any daytime or nighttime activity an embarrassment due to association by default.
Just to be honest I went there only once and I was there for 2 days a Thursday and Friday unless I'm tripping, the indigenous women did not look that attractive they mainly had cheap fake cosmetic BBL's done that did not look appealing at all the Afro Latina women looked more sexy perhaps I went there on a bad day but I noticed dudes was all over these fake body bitches. Where in Columbia do they have nice quality of chicas?
HumpyDumpty11
04-10-24, 05:23
Old news but someone will be oblivious to it. Space is now Omnia, when I was there chicas weren't allowed inside unless with a man. So chicas who knew I was there asked me to come down and let them in so they can work. It was mostly a sausage fest until then.How many girls did they let you bring inside? Did the girls have to stay with you the whole time inside or they were able to work the room with no issues? When you left, did you the girls have to leave with you?
One of my amigas asked me to do this on my next trip but I was skeptical it could be done at all. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
How many girls did they let you bring inside? Did the girls have to stay with you the whole time inside or they were able to work the room with no issues? When you left, did you the girls have to leave with you?
One of my amigas asked me to do this on my next trip but I was skeptical it could be done at all. Any info would be greatly appreciated.I arrived with 2 and got a table. I then brought in 8 more to join my table. I was only there for about an hour but I left the 8 girls there at the table and went to Getsemeni with the 2 girls I arrived with.
I got each girl 2 drinks of their choice before I bounced. Most just wanted a bottle of water.
I would cross Space off the list to sit under some good AC and get girls. A drink is another option but it's a fire hazard. If you thought Delirium was packed and hard to navigate this place is 3 x worse. You will be constantly rubbing up against someone and 9/10 times it will be a beer belly or some sweaty guy with a sweaty washcloth on top of their head.
Just to be honest I went there only once and I was there for 2 days a Thursday and Friday unless I'm tripping, the indigenous women did not look that attractive they mainly had cheap fake cosmetic BBL's done that did not look appealing at all the Afro Latina women looked more sexy perhaps I went there on a bad day but I noticed dudes was all over these fake body bitches. Where in Columbia do they have nice quality of chicas?Allot of these girls change their bodies for their target audience. No one knows what "quality " to you but as I discovered it's better to get the girls as close to 18 as possible. Once many reach around 22 they start to have lots of insecurities by watching other women living fake lifestyles on Instagram that they think is real. Then comes the fat transfers from stomach to their ass and thighs, wearing the faja, excessive makeup and all types of unnecessary shit that don't matter.
The best girls I got were from Tinder, the best ones out of these were Venezuelan, the Colombians were way too entitled and I believe it was because they believed they have home advantage. It's been years and I could do it again I would have focused more on the Venezuelan than the Colombianas they just look more feminine naturally without the need of surgery. That last sentence is 100 percent subjective.
Ok got yah thanks for the tips. Even the ones I met in The DR and Mexico for both nationalities you named had tons of cosmetic surgery done on them. I've been hearing for years that Columbians have fake everything going on I thought the BBLs and breasts will look good on them boy I was wrong I prefer natural over artificial any day.
Allot of these girls change their bodies for their target audience. No one knows what "quality " to you but as I discovered it's better to get the girls as close to 18 as possible. Once many reach around 22 they start to have lots of insecurities by watching other women living fake lifestyles on Instagram that they think is real. Then comes the fat transfers from stomach to their ass and thighs, wearing the faja, excessive makeup and all types of unnecessary shit that don't matter.
The best girls I got were from Tinder, the best ones out of these were Venezuelan, the Colombians were way too entitled and I believe it was because they believed they have home advantage. It's been years and I could do it again I would have focused more on the Venezuelan than the Colombianas they just look more feminine naturally without the need of surgery. That last sentence is 100 percent subjective.
2 days and the streets from 10 pm -3 am in wall city has all what you need. Always scout and negotiate your prices and needs, but as always the Venezuelan chicas offer the best bang for your buck!
PerkinWarbeck
04-22-24, 01:26
Yo bros! Hope everyone is staying cool as there have been rolling blackouts through some neighborhoods this weekend.
I found a lovely part timer on Skokka. Negrita and bajita. Like really short. 20 years old. Kissing and bareback like a girlfriend. 120 k for the hour, but she stayed for two hours and we were going at it a while. She's been a regular the past two weeks or so.
Fun times to be had in the city!
Yo bros! Hope everyone is staying cool as there have been rolling blackouts through some neighborhoods this weekend.
I found a lovely part timer on Skokka. Negrita and bajita. Like really short. 20 years old. Kissing and bareback like a girlfriend. 120 k for the hour, but she stayed for two hours and we were going at it a while. She's been a regular the past two weeks or so.
Fun times to be had in the city!Can you give me a hand or contact number. I searched the app don't find a 20-year-old Negrita but found one, but she is 30.
You can message me with the information that will help. Thanks.
these fuzzy bedroom shoes, triple nose rings, heavy lashes and bright color weaves are on another level. Upon arriving a Latam plane arrived infront of mine and there they were. ... and got louder looking in my direction like I'm supposed to help themSound like women of the USA on your flight. Sad.
Sound like women of the USA on your flight. Sad.Thankfully it wasn't my flight. I was on Jet Blue, I saw a few on my flight while boarding but thankfully they sat up front while I got my usual seat in the back of the plane so I can get off faster to get through the immigration line quicker but when I got on the line I was behind the LATAM passengers. The LATAM plane came from ATL.
I'm not sure if you're a part of the WhatsApp groups but there's a funny video going around where some of the Sistas were in Androgeno doing what looks like a sorority dance and the chicas and brothers face expression says it all. (hopefully this site don't auto correct Androgeno to "A Drink" like my previous post).
What ended up happening to Cartagena was certain people opened their mouth and it attracted the crowd who likes to be loud for attention. My post from the end of last year where I got off the boat with my chica and the loud mouth Sistas where doing their shaming shit (where they have a loud conversation about a stranger so the stranger can hear what they are saying to start a confrontation) was enough to let me know to find another city where they they are not. But they are showing the world why so many of us brother are getting on planes to get away from them and experience tranquillity.
Wondering if anyone has rented a car? I usually take the taxis, but then I see an attractive girl on the street who probably would take a poke, and cannot get the taxi driver to stop. I also have picked up some young pretty girls while out walking around, but the temperature is getting hotter. Might be better to pickup a street walker if I had a rental car? Any guidance on this please? Is it expensive? Insurance issues?
Mr Enternational
04-24-24, 15:09
Wondering if anyone has rented a car? Might be better to pickup a street walker if I had a rental car? Any guidance on this please? Is it expensive? Insurance issues?No. But I have have rented a car in Barranquilla to drive to Cartagena for the day. It is just like renting a car anywhere else. The insurance is on my credit card so that is no issue. If staying in the same city I find it pricey at $50 though when I am only paying $2 a pop for Indriver.
Wondering if anyone has rented a car? I usually take the taxis, but then I see an attractive girl on the street who probably would take a poke, and cannot get the taxi driver to stop. I also have picked up some young pretty girls while out walking around, but the temperature is getting hotter. Might be better to pickup a street walker if I had a rental car? Any guidance on this please? Is it expensive? Insurance issues?Price is about $50 a day fully insured, unlimited range.
I've done it twice and regretted it twice. Sure there is good convenience but an Uber is under $3 to anywhere in the tourist area. I've driven all the way to Santa Martha, Barranquilla, Manzanillo, Baru, even all the way out to Motel Indiana and it is nuts! I have zero clue how there aren't more accidents because these people drive so close where bumpers almost touch. The paved roads aren't that great (huge potholes) and if you happen to drive off into areas like La Boquilla those dirt roads are no joke. Potholes everywhere, random people on motorcycles cutting in and out in front of the car, random dogs in the street and the busses don't care. Parking can be an issue unless you're going to shopping centers.
I had other annoyances such as Pico Placa, I was constantly getting pulled over in Centro because I didn't know, and there were speed traps as well. Flooding is another major issue especially in front of Pametto Sunset where the water can reach up to your knees in heavy rains during high tide.
If your focus is that you want to drive around and pick up girls like you're in Miami, Cartagena is not the place to do it, I would suggest get out the cab talk to the girl then take another cab. It's 12.000 to anywhere in the tourist area.
Since we all have our ratings of talent a nice resource on youtube is Prestigious Physiquez, seems the bigger CAR girls walkthru youtubers have backed off filming since the new rule changes, I'm guess demonetization.
Since Dolce closed seems like that tier of Insta models have went to greener pastures. Still plenty of younger all naturals, morenas and indigenous types. Doesn't seem like many guys are spending on the street so there could be leverage in negotiations.
Since we all have our ratings of talent a nice resource on youtube is Prestigious Physiquez, seems the bigger CAR girls walkthru youtubers have backed off filming since the new rule changes, I'm guess demonetization.
Since Dolce closed seems like that tier of Insta models have went to greener pastures. Still plenty of younger all naturals, morenas and indigenous types. Doesn't seem like many guys are spending on the street so there could be leverage in negotiations.This Prestigious Physiquez youtuber started randomly showing up in my recommendations.
They are using old footage and splicing it up to make it look like fresh footage.
If anyone want to call BS on me here is a perfect example:
https://youtu.be/RQHl4BTZhgo?t=679
They are walking by the park Plaza de Bolivar, and only someone who have been to Cartagena recently and walked by that park would know exactly what's wrong with that video.
All I can say based on my observations all of the videos they uploaded saying 2024 is old. If anyone watches it and pay attention they are showing videos of The Clock Tower with no barricades, videos of people going into Delirium and Dolce (which have been closed for over a month), Video of the street which Dolce and Delirium is on with no barricades. I've even chicas I know in their nightlife videos whos been in the US for over a month.
The nightlife videos can be used as a scale to rate chicas but I would not suggest anyone to use the videos as a reference to how Cartagena currently is with the abundance of available chicas.
Elvis 2008
04-25-24, 12:11
Thankfully it wasn't my flight. I was on Jet Blue, I saw a few on my flight while boarding but thankfully they sat up front while I got my usual seat in the back of the plane so I can get off faster to get through the immigration line quicker but when I got on the line I was behind the LATAM passengers. The LATAM plane came from ATL.
I'm not sure if you're a part of the WhatsApp groups but there's a funny video going around where some of the Sistas were in Androgeno doing what looks like a sorority dance and the chicas and brothers face expression says it all. (hopefully this site don't auto correct Androgeno to "A Drink" like my previous post).
What ended up happening to Cartagena was certain people opened their mouth and it attracted the crowd who likes to be loud for attention. My post from the end of last year where I got off the boat with my chica and the loud mouth Sistas where doing their shaming shit (where they have a loud conversation about a stranger so the stranger can hear what they are saying to start a confrontation) was enough to let me know to find another city where they they are not. But they are showing the world why so many of us brother are getting on planes to get away from them and experience tranquillity.Yeah, first time I was in Cartagena, and there were some sistas in the elevator talking up all this inexpensive plastic surgery they were getting. There was not even a moderately attractive one in the bunch. I had to bite my tongue. I could not tell if they were in the before or after surgery group. If it was the after group, they should get their money back.
Then I was flying back on Spirit in the big seat (I. E. Their first class). Sista sitting next to me was nice but she travelled around with her friends all over. She said they were part of a "fat girl yoga" group. Well, it was pretty clear that it was like 30 minutes of yoga and hours and hours of drinking and eating.
I do not get the appeal of Cartagena to women but every time I go, I sure see a lot of women on the planes thrilled to be there.
Elvis 2008
04-25-24, 12:16
Wondering if anyone has rented a car? I usually take the taxis, but then I see an attractive girl on the street who probably would take a poke, and cannot get the taxi driver to stop. I also have picked up some young pretty girls while out walking around, but the temperature is getting hotter. Might be better to pickup a street walker if I had a rental car? Any guidance on this please? Is it expensive? Insurance issues?Yeah, I would not do it. The roads are so crammed I do not know if you could even stop and pick one up. Sometimes, I will drive a scooter around and you do not need a license to drive an electric scooter / moped. You can weave around traffic and find a place to stop much more easily. Thing is I have been riding one for years and I do not recommend you do this either. It is dangerous, and I am not sure the women would get on a scooter.
It is not a problem renting a car or even driving it. The issue is how shitty the roads are and how crowded Cartagena is and how limited parking is. It is just so much easier to Uber or stop somewhere while getting a cab close to the women you want and track back.
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