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12-04-06, 01:00

dear all,

i cannot refrain from writing these short notes. i am just back to my room after a good day. my impression is different from the majority of reports i duly read before coming here. i can be here only for 2 days, unfortunately. i am trying to optimize my time here, choosing carefully where to spend my time.

i will be very brief.

1) ldv is nothing special. i suggest to avoid it! full of seasoned pros and mid-aged gringos. you may find a pearl here, but it is rare. if a girl is stunning, then she's used to wealthy gringos and then she will ask a lot of money. much better options all around.

2) day action is great. i am rather handsome and i look 35, maybe this helped. go to the beach, relax, drink a beer, hunt for (apparently) non-pros. avoid those who want to "help" you.

there are dozens of stunners on the beach. just be smart and approach those who smile at you. that's nothing original in this.

i just spent half a day with 3 very beautiful girls, looking almost ****, but all above 20yo. i payed drinks and a lunch for all four on the beach. we never talked about doing more, they apologized for me paying everything. so sweet! finally, i left with a dream of a life, for a hot 2 hours time at jaiva (see below). beautiful and sweet. what can i desire more?

price? voluntary! (i gave 170k, because she's sweet but not stupid and does need money for her life, otherwise she would not do this).

3) treat girls well! they are the sweetiest in the world. they deserve a gentleman, not a bad-manner, drunk, "cowboy".

if you are a gentleman, you'll be rewarded.

4) a 1-hour room? this is a good hint!

if you need a room, because your hotel is not chica friendly, i found something excellent: jaiva, at crespo. by taxi from bocagrande, it may cost 15k and 15 mins. listen: it cost 16k/hour, it is kind of luxury motel. yes, it is like that. they do not ask documents, total privacy.

very clean, well furnished, mirror, glass shower, etc.

how much did you pay for a room in el centro, in a crappy hotel? :-)

5) night action.

i would go for clubs in el centro. be careful: it may be dangerous walking in these streets at night. there is hungry people with knives around.

i went to giro matto. 20 outstanding girls for 7-8 guys, at 2.30am.

i was with a chica from ldv (the only apparently non-pro). girls even tried to approach me, while she went to the restroom.

in conclusion: cartagena is kind of pussy paradise. you cannot walk without falling in love every 5 minutes.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

editor's note ii: due to a forum software problem, this report was not visible on the day it was originally posted last week. nevertheless, it's clearly a valuable report, so i have reposted it today to give it the prominence it deserves.

James Zz

12-09-06, 04:07

dear all,

i cannot refrain from writing these short notes. i am just back to my room after a good day. my impression is different from the majority of reports i duly read before coming here. i can be here only for 2 days, unfortunately. i am trying to optimize my time here, choosing carefully where to spend my time.

i will be very brief.

1) ldv is nothing special. i suggest to avoid it! full of seasoned pros and mid-aged gringos. you may find a pearl here, but it is rare. if a girl is stunning, then she's used to wealthy gringos and then she will ask a lot of money. much better options all around.

2) day action is great. i am rather handsome and i look 35, maybe this helped. go to the beach, relax, drink a beer, hunt for (apparently) non-pros. avoid those who want to "help" you.

there are dozens of stunners on the beach. just be smart and approach those who smile at you. that's nothing original in this.

i just spent half a day with 3 very beautiful girls, looking almost ****, but all above 20yo. i payed drinks and a lunch for all four on the beach. we never talked about doing more, they apologized for me paying everything. so sweet! finally, i left with a dream of a life, for a hot 2 hours time at jaiva (see below). beautiful and sweet. what can i desire more?

price? voluntary! (i gave 170k, because she's sweet but not stupid and does need money for her life, otherwise she would not do this).

3) treat girls well! they are the sweetiest in the world. they deserve a gentleman, not a bad-manner, drunk, "cowboy".

if you are a gentleman, you'll be rewarded.

4) a 1-hour room? this is a good hint!

if you need a room, because your hotel is not chica friendly, i found something excellent: jaiva, at crespo. by taxi from bocagrande, it may cost 15k and 15 mins. listen: it cost 16k/hour, it is kind of luxury motel. yes, it is like that. they do not ask documents, total privacy.

very clean, well furnished, mirror, glass shower, etc.

how much did you pay for a room in el centro, in a crappy hotel? :-)

5) night action.

i would go for clubs in el centro. be careful: it may be dangerous walking in these streets at night. there is hungry people with knives around.

i went to giro matto. 20 outstanding girls for 7-8 guys, at 2.30am.

i was with a chica from ldv (the only apparently non-pro). girls even tried to approach me, while she went to the restroom.

in conclusion: cartagena is kind of pussy paradise. you cannot walk without falling in love every 5 minutes.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.ctg is gringo savy.

good looks. helps in every country.

a good colombian girl from a good family will never go to a short time hotel. 170k + 15k + 15k + drinks + food. over us $100 for short time = pro

you can get these beach girls, college students, "non pros ", etc 40.100k.

the only non pro in ldv. of course, she said so.

enjoy the vacation but also know things for what they really are.

gringo = $$.

Mr Blue

12-09-06, 07:00

Warning: Long report with a lot of non-mongering info.

Day 2:

We left the hotel at 9am for a 11:30am flight to Cartagena. The checkin was smooth and security fairly relaxed. We arrive way early thinking it'd take us a while to get checked in and through security. The flight was uneventful and we had the A Foreign Affair guys send a taxi to pick us up. It cost 25USD which was definitely above market rate. I would take a taxi myself next time and save a few bucks to tip the girls.

The driver took us to Caribe Real where the building manager had the key waiting for us. While "checking in" we met Carlos from Puerto Rico who was glad to help us out. After we examined our apartment, I was a bit disappointed at the quality. For 80 a night for 2 bedrooms, I considered it pretty cheap but the quality wasn't as good as I wanted. Also, one of the windows lacked curtains exposing the entire room to the hotel next door. After calling A Foreign Affair, they couldn't send someone until Monday. We decided to just put up bed sheets for now. This trip is starting to suck. It was hot and humid and apartment wasn't great and I just felt uncomfortable.

The whole city is based off tourist money. Stupid tourists that buy stupid shit and EVERYONE asked for a tip for anything. It was here I saw something I've never seen before: mobile phones. Basically a woman carried a cell phone around and you whistled or called her over and she'd dial for you and charge you 900 pesos to make the call. I'd later find out that right next door in a regular shop, you can make calls for 300 pesos. Waste of a good 40c :P.

In the afternoon, we walked around the neighborhood checking out Laguito. We then took a cab to Plaza Santo Domingo for some food. I felt this was a rip off and the food wasn't great for the price. Also people would come around hawking all sorts of shit again and again and again. How many times do I have to say no. I swear I keep seeing the same guys come back with different things and even the same guys come back with the same things!

After lunch we took some pictures and walked along the old city walls taking a bunch of pictures. It really wasn't that interesting, just a lot of walking. For dinner, we took the advice of the CTG list and went to the "best" restaurant in town called San Pedro Claver. To our surprise, it was full. We had to make a reservation for the next night. We ended up with some Italian fast food in Laquito.

After dinner we decided enough is enough. We're going to Pleyboy and hailed a cab. The driver drove us way out of town and when we arrived he asked if we wanted him to wait. We got a price quote of 15k for the trip to and back and the wait which IMO, was a pretty good price. We arrived at around 10:30.

We headed in and it's a strip joint with few men and lots of girls. We pick a seat right infront of the shower and order up some beers. After a couple of mins, we notice the driver come in and sat next to us. We bought him a beer and chatted up for a bit. I then see this hot chica that was dancing next to us and I call her over. She was a lot of fun and energetic. We danced a bit in the club grinding and bumping. She excused herself for a bit and after 5 mins I was wondering WTF did she go. Then the lights dimmed and a stripper came out and yup, it was Karen.

She was a great dancer and stripper with a tight body. IMO, one of the best in the club. Even before that I had made up my mind to pull her for the night. After she was done, we left pretty much immediately. I paid the 300k and about 38k or so for the drinks. At the bar waiting for her to get dressed, I bump into a Colombiano that worked in Europe but lived half of the time in Colombia. We chatted up a bit about various places to hit and he mentioned Peirrar (sp?) and said the town is filled with beautiful women. He also mentioned Cali but we weren't planning on it this trip and I also explained my [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor Spanish probably wouldn't fly there. We now had to find a girl for Ivan.

The driver took us to Venus but the quality was very bad. It was also full of guys which initially look intimidating but the light was so dim it really didn't matter. We left after 1 round of drinks and a bad strip show.

We then went to Casa Marina and there were only 5-6 girls chilling outside and no one inside. We shook our heads and Ivan decided that he would not take a chica home tonight. I had an excellent night with Karen whom was both young (18 yrs old) and fun. She'd be one of my best sessions in Colombia.

Day 3:

Next morning Karen got up quite early and I joined her on the balcony overlooking the ocean at around 8:30am. I got a great private Spanish lesson and talked for the next 3 hrs or so. She's from Medellin and described a lot of the city to me. At around 12, she leaves to join her sister and we leave to Riquisimo for lunch. We chill for a while and then went to castillo de San Felipe for a quick stroll. Being the gringo freaks that we are, we were approached by a random couple to pose for pictures with his wife/gf.

After the castle, we returned to change and shower and off we go to San Pedro Claver. This is a pretty nice restaurant and the hostest is pretty cute too. We made reservations for the next night since it was pretty much the only restaurant we'd consider good enough to enjoy dinner. We'd later find a few more restaurants in the area that was pretty decent but did not have a chance to try out.

At around 9:30, I called the driver from last night, Ever, to pick us up again tonight. He arrives and off we go chica hunting again. We hit casa Rocio first which was in the outskirts of the city in an average neighborhood. A few guys were sitting out on the steps infront of the house and it definitely felt weird pulling up to a place like this. We enter and there were a couple of chicas sitting to the left in a small lounge area and many many more in the backyard. This is just like a normal house except it's a brothel. A bunch of guys were already at the tables drinking and celebrating someone's birthday. We pull up a few chairs and began to examine the row of 15 girls all sitting in lawn chairs perfectly lined up against the wall.

My friend decides on a cute 20 yr old girl with BIG natural boobs. The normal price is 80k pesos for the house fine for the night and 200k for the girl. He manages to negociate it down to 100k for the girl even though his spanish is limited to numbers and some basic words. Good job! We then hit casa Marina and again the same 4 girls. I leave disappointed to Manila house. There were 4 girls and I call one over that looked petite and young but turns out she was approaching late 20s and did not look as cute close up. Her name was Sandra, blonde, and 27 yrs old. I had to reject her hard. Sorry, it's just business and you just don't do it for me.

Off we go to Chica Linda. This is definitely a place I would not feel comfortable by myself. It has the very ghetto feeling to it and not a big crowd nor a lot cute of girls. There were a decent number of girls, just that they weren't cute. The strip show was crappy but the driver knew the owner or something. Anyway, we had a drink and leave.

So not giving up, we went back to Casa Rocio AGAIN and it turned out to be a bad idea. At this time, all the girls are tired and few were milling around. She tried to hook me up with her friend but her friend was just too much of a typical bronx latina and I just didn't feel like flying 3000 miles to fuck a bronx latina. No pull tonight. So I'm here now, alone, on my bed and completely lost my voice writing in my journal. I think I caught a cold from one of the girls (kissing is bad! Bad!) and just talking too much for the last few days. Need rest, hope to regain voice and strength tomorrow.

Day 4:
Spent most of the day sleeping and resting. Sunbathed a little bit hoping to tan my pale face and chest. We had lunch at Riquisimo again. The steak is just not that good. I'm hoping Medellin would be much better. I took another nap in the afternoon and did not go out until the thunderstorm had passed in the late afternoon. It flooded AGAIN. Everyone said on the first day we got here that the streets were flooded b/c of some once in 10 year type of event but that was total bullshit. It rained and all the streets flooded again closing down half of the streets and making it a nightmare to drive through town. It took us nearly an hour to get from Laquito to Paseo Castellana. By the time we got to the mall, it was almost time to leave. We strolled around for an hour quite disappointed before going back to San Pedro Claver for dinner again. We noticed something odd. A very cute girl was having dinner by herself. No, we didn't try anything but probably should've. We thought we might have been able to proposition her as well but decided to behave.

Anyway, we hook up with Ever again and did the regular route again. We needed some money exchanged so he takes us to "El Coche" in Laguito that is open 24 hrs. The gates were down but a guy in there took our money through the little hole and came back with pesos. I don't mind black market cambios since I hate giving out passport and thumb prints for a few hundred bucks. Anyway, this time he offered up some girls for us and we took a look. We actually went to the place and it was just some regular home with family photos and the whole thing was really weird. Since these girls don't work in the clubs, they supposedly don't have as many customers and were "cleaner" than the pros. I guess these were semi-pros. I didn't take anyone because the whole thing just felt weird. In retrospect, it was dangerous for us to even go to such a place in the middle of the night in colombia out in the middle of no where. This apartment complex was like the projects in the Bronx and yet we went anyway.

Anyhow, went we to Casa Marina and it disappointed us yet again. 4 girls! WTF! We then went to a place called "Inter" which is a block away from Pleyboy and the place sucked. Even though there were 8 girls or so and some looked doable, they were not under the light. I did a chica interview but had to reject her as she looked old and busted under the light. We left to pleyboy once again. Here I found Veronica. A hot girl from Medellin that was probably the best looking girl I fucked for the whole trip. 19 yrs old, morena, tight body, great face, and confident composure. She is definitely my type of girl. I pulled her out for 300k. My #2 in Cartagena and both were from Medellin. I found that the best looking girls came from Medellin anyway so I was psyched to go to Medellin as our last leg of the trip. She is a very quiet girl but was decent in bed. I didn't care if she didn't say much. Her body was fuckin great! She later tell sme she has a kid that'd 3 years and there is no way in hell I'm believing that. That is one hell of a mom if she was telling me the truth. Anyway, she left around 10 the next morning.

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Mr Blue

12-09-06, 07:37

Day 5:

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That was really the last of it though. We got a quick drink and back down we drove. We decided to ask him to take us to Paseo de Castellana which is a local mall. We walked around a bit and saw a few more cute girls than last night when we were here briefly. We wandered around, bought some shirts (which btw, is pretty cheap at only 25-30 dollars for dress shirts) before heading out to dinner. We asked him to recommend something for us. Something with seafood because we knew that Cartagena beef was not good and it was a coastal town so seafood was generally pretty good.

We ended up in a place that we would've never found by ourselves. It's a small restaurant with a lot of tables but we were the only ones there. After some excellent fish filet, bananas, and fish, we were ready to head out. The original plan was to head out by ourselves tonight. Ever seemed to only know his side of town and didn't feel too comfortable downtown. I don't know if he really felt it was unsafe or because he was unfamiliar with it or he did not make commission from these places. Anyhow, he called a few places and hunted down a few girls for us. We drive deep in the hood way outside of the city center in the middle of an apartment complex. It looked like the projects. There, a fat old lady with two girls were waiting. My friend gets off to get a better look. I stay in the car. After some negociations, My friend decides that he will take one of them. But wait, mamasita has another girl! So we drive around for the next 20 mins finding this girl. We literally drive up to her house and she comes out to meet us. I'm sorry, this is just too fuckin weird for me. I declined asap. So now we drop mamasita off and we head towards our old stomping grounds.

We hit pleyclub ASAP as I didn't want to bother with the other clubs. They all sucked anyway. I go in and I see Veronica from last night. Cute girl but we didn't really click. I notice quite a few other girls there and we were one of two tables. Then the lights dim and the stripper comes out again. Yup, it was Karen again. Man oh man, she's hot. She's one of the best stripper's I've seen and only 18 so her body is fuckin tight. After she is done, dressed, and out for a rest, I immediately grab her. I already made up my mind who to take for the night. It'd be Karen. I test her to see if I could get away with taking both her and veronica for a night of lotta fun. She doesn't like girls she says. This is a bad sign for threesome so I scratch the idea and leave with my bounty. She mentions that she does know Veronica b/c they both worked in Lejano Orientes in Medellin.

We head back to the apartment for some early fun. It couldn't have been later than 10:30 or 11 and we'd have these girls all night. We pay Ever and give him the bad news: we're leaving tomorrow. We don't flat out tell him we're not coming back. He will send his coworker to drive us to the airport tomorrow. We pay him about 140k pesos and said our goodbyes.

So of course in the course of our conversation with Ever, Karen finds out we're going to Medellin next. She is bouncing off the walls and starts telling me everything about Medellin. She being from Medellin and our encounter a few nights earlier, must've thought she influenced us to go to Medellin. I show her some photos of our trip today and we talk for a bit. I really enjoy just spending time with her and talking. We get down to business and she is better this time than the first!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Mr Blue

12-09-06, 07:50

James Zz

12-10-06, 02:05

Apologies in advance for not consolidating everything into one post. I had typed it all up but then the copy/pasting to the forum caused some problems for me.

Anyway, my general thoughts on Cartagena is that the best looking girls for me were from Medellin anyway so might as well go right to the source. The beach doesn't compare to Rio or Cancun and the lack of infrastructure is a turn off for me.

I don't think there's any reason to worry that Cartagena would become too popular like Costa Rica and be ruined. Cartagena is not ready for prime time and IMO, won't for at least a few more years.

Personally for me, I didn't feel bad for not hitting LDV. I didn't think too much of Help at Rio anyway so I don't think it was a big lost. I did have a lot of fun in Cartagena but I don't think I will return. Even if I do, it'd only be for 1 or max of 2 nights only w/ friends that insist on seeing all of Colombia.

For the beach life, I'd go straight to Rio. I also like the setup in Rio much better with standard BBBJ and numerous Termas. And strangely enough, I felt safer in Rio than in Cartagena which is really odd since just a year ago I thought Rio was too dangerous to go.

All in all, had a great time in Cartagena and started to like it despite intially being turned off by it.

These are just my personal thoughts and I know different places work for different people. It's all about finding the right place for yourself. Rio suits me a little better than Cartagena.The best thing about colombia is the local girls. If you do not speak spanish or are just there for a quick trip once a year you will probably not meet them.

They are not the girls that come on to you and go to short time hotels.

The guys that live there know a lot and can really help, but even they do not know everything that goes on. Its a big country with large cities y campos. Trust your instinct. Take what you need then make your own decisions.

Do not believe everything you read. Guys bs as much as pros, semi-pros,non-pros bs.

CTG pros. To much work to get a good return. CTG locals..much much better return. I thought cali was much better but my balls are not big enough to live there. I only went with someone i knew lived there

Mr Blue. Good report. No BS. No crap about being in a hooker bar and having hookers and non-pros wanting to be with you because your so cute and cool and good looking. GRINGO = $$. You can change the price and service but the bottom line is always the same. Thank goodness its a mans world.

Enough of my BS. This site wants pics + prices. No mas hasta yo tengo.

Black Page

12-10-06, 19:31

Sorry, I feel the need to add some more words.

I thinkj I've been misunderstood.

Gringo = $$.
>A good colombian girl from a good family will NEVER go to a short time hotel. >170K + 15K + 15k + drinks + food. Over US $100 for short time = PRO

>The only NON PRO in LDV. Of course, she said so.
Gringo = $$.Did I say she was NON PRO?

I said "Apparently non pro"!

I meant that she's exactly the kind of girl I like to meet. Not sleazy, cute, educated, not hunting for men in the bar.

Actually, she's the sister of a well seasoned pro working in LDV for a long time. She joined her for need of money. What a difference!

Gringo = $$.
Enjoy the vacation but also know things for what they really are.
Gringo = $$.Thank you.

I am well seasoned monger. I know things a bit.

In summary, the sake of my report:

- avoid LDV
- go to the beach at dady time
- try Jaiva.

Best regards to all!

Tom 33

12-11-06, 01:21

"It flooded AGAIN. Everyone said on the first day we got here that the streets were flooded b/c of some once in 10 year type of event but that was total bullshit."

This was not bullshit. There was a storm out in the Caribbean that raised the level of the sea and churned up some very big waves. In the 4 years I have lived here, I had never seen the sea this high or angry.

Your observations here are just as skewed as the rest of your report reads, but thanks for sharing your opinions.

This place is not for everyone.

Phoenix Phx

12-12-06, 02:17

Tom 33

12-12-06, 14:12

A couple of recent posts seem to disparage the prepago. I am here to tell you that the hard-core ***** is far from the norm in CTG. Many of the girls I bang have been in the business for a long time. The vast majority of them are sweethearts. I cannot blame them for trying to get what they can for their services.

Of course I treat them all well and with respect. And I do not over pay-generally 60k for ST.

And not all non-pros are sweet. Life is hard here, and it is cheap. You have to do what you have to do to get by.

Mule69

12-13-06, 16:28

I was there and actually met Tom33. The waves were huge and caused a lot of chaos. It was nothing like the minor street flooding I saw in July after a big rainstorm which went away pretty quick.

Phoenix
Wazzup my Brother?? The ocean was washing up logs the size of telephone poles and huge rocks were blocking the streets...BUT WE STILL MONGERED ON! Can you believe some gringo married Angie?We lost a good one!

Fabone

12-13-06, 23:48

Wazzup my Brother?? The ocean was washing up logs the size of telephone poles and huge rocks were blocking the streets...BUT WE STILL MONGERED ON! Can you believe some gringo married Angie?We lost a good one!I met a little Angie back in April at LDV but haven't seen her since. Hot little 18 yo spinner who was awesome. I hope it's not the same one. Does that sound right Mule69?

Phoenix Phx

12-14-06, 01:48

Wazzup my Brother?? The ocean was washing up logs the size of telephone poles and huge rocks were blocking the streets...BUT WE STILL MONGERED ON! Can you believe some gringo married Angie?We lost a good one!Yes my monger brother the loss of Angie is very sad. Lucky for me I found some nice replacements and even a good one at the casa you mentioned. I will be back in February.

MJG Dogs

12-14-06, 07:40

Mule69

12-14-06, 16:03

Is this the Angie from LDV, blond from Bucaramonga that got married? My god I wonder if that is the case, if the gringo knew how many nuts Angie had cracked in her storied career? She has seen more cock, than all of the stadium urinals combined at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. She was good in the sack though....
She was a fixture in LDV although she told me she was from Bogota.Yes she was a blonde spinner with a smoking body who was all time in the cama.I never saw her in LDV in November so I asked a local and he said "Angie marry gringo" ....guess he was hypnotized by her charms!!!!

Npaul1

12-14-06, 19:58

If this is the cute blond, slim legs, who smokes, and worked at LDV all the time,

I received a call from ******* the husband of Angie about a month ago asking me about annulment/divorce. He moved back to the US and told me it was over. Definitely.

I do not want to speak for him, but I would expect that she would be back at work again at the LDV.

Phoenix Phx

12-15-06, 02:22

Mule69

12-16-06, 14:42

When you going to visit again brother?
Looks like April.It will be laid back compared to November.You gonna make it?

Raw13

12-17-06, 15:23

What is Cartegena like during Jan/ Feb. Would this be considered the low season.

Gonzo

12-17-06, 18:33

What is Cartegena like during Jan/ Feb. Would this be considered the low season.If you go back a bit on this thread, Tom 33, a resident there, says that Jan is a high tourist season for the Colombianos, Feb and March are quieter. I'll find out, having booked time in early Feb.

Phoenix Phx

12-18-06, 04:10

Looks like April.It will be laid back compared to November.You gonna make it?I may go in end of April or early May. I am going to see how the trip in February goes.

Dogman2

12-18-06, 05:50

I returned from Cartagena a few days ago, it is kind of a lull before the Christmas and New Years high season.

I did find time to make a few trips to Centro, and had a nice dinner at Fusion. It is moderately priced and is located somewhat near Cafe Del Mar. This is a great spot to bring a speacial date.

Dogman2

12-18-06, 05:57

The Loco Gringo Restaurant in Laguito has undergone recent employee changes. The service is spectacular and has become a great addition to the Bocagrande / Laguito places to hang out and catch up with friends.

Dogman2

12-18-06, 06:05

Juan Valdez coffee (Colombian version of Starbucks) opened one week ago in Bocagrande. It is on the corner of San Martin and calle 7 in Bocagrande (this is the main street in Bocagrande).

It has a large patio facing the main street in Bocagrande, so it is a prime spot to watch the scenery. This is also a great place to take a new friend or meet new ones.

TheShadow2

12-18-06, 14:03

Can you be more specific about these "reports"?
The consensus for the last few years, from dozens of reports, and my own personal experience, is that Mery is 100% trustworthy and will bend over backwards to insure you are happy.
If this is your first trip to Cartagena, Mery should be the least of your worries.

Jeff998

12-18-06, 16:15

I have received several confirmations that the rumors I heard about Mery are true. She has already lost the majority of her apartments after getting caught stealing by some of the owners. The word right now is the other owners are all looking for a new property manager so very shortly Mery will no longer be renting any apartments in Cartagena.

I canceled my reservation with her since there is no certainty she will be able to provide me with an apartment when I get there. Juan Venturra is the person I am using now and he seems like a very likable guy. He has already taken over one of Mery's former apartments, and there is another guy named Micheal who will be taken over about a dozen of Mery's apartments.

There are also other reports coming out from clients who felt Mery was not completely honest with them. They are saying that they did not want to say anything before since everyone spoke so highly about Mery. Now that the shit has hit the fan there seems to be no end to the reports coming out.

It seems a lot of the people who wrote these gushing reports about how great Mery is were simply owners trying to promote their own properties. However, it is the owners themselves who are now coming forward to tell people that Mery is no longer representing them.

How fast things can change!

Can you be more specific about these "reports"?
The consensus for the last few years, from dozens of reports, and my own personal experience, is that Mery is 100% trustworthy and will bend over backwards to insure you are happy.

If this is your first trip to Cartagena, Mery should be the least of your worries.

Cachorro

12-18-06, 19:57

I have received several confirmations that the rumors I heard about Mery are true.
Yeah, right.

How lame.

What kind of person joins the board yesterday and immediately starts posting this kind of sh*t?

I will continue to believe regular posters who are known by people I know. I do not know Mery personally, but if she has a solid reputation, she has it for a good reason. I think it's obvious what your game is.

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Jeff997

12-18-06, 21:39

Just because I have not been a member here for long does not mean I have not been to Cartagena and does not mean I am not a member of other boards.

The fact is I came here to look for some other opinions since almost everyone is talking about Mery getting caught stealing. I had an apartment booked and now I find out she is no longer the manager of it.

All you need to do is look at Mery's webpage and you will see she only has a couple of apartments left.

One of the apartment owners has came forward and said she was fired for stealing.

On another board there are several people coming forward talking about problems with her.

You admit you do not know Mery yet post this lame response?

From what everyone is saying Mery will no longer be renting any apartments soon. You should find out what is going on before making posts like this.

Yeah, right.

How lame.

What kind of person joins the board yesterday and immediately starts posting this kind of sh*t?

I will continue to believe regular posters who are known by people I know. I do not know Mery personally, but if she has a solid reputation, she has it for a good reason. I think it's obvious what your game is.

Free Sex

12-18-06, 22:52

LOL!!!LOL!! Good call about "Jeff998"

Jelly Donut

12-19-06, 00:28

Mery manages a number of very nice apartments in Cartagena. I've rented six seperate apartments from her over the past year; I've been able to rent from her on very short notice on three of those occasions. She's been flexible on a couple of personal requests I've had as well.

I've rented places from her in Sol de Caribe, Torre Centauro, Playa Mar and Marina del Rey. I was very happy with 4 of the 5 places, the fifth spot was not the best, but the price was low and she did not represent that place as anything other than what it was.

I believe the rumors you are hearing are just that. However, you may be able find other people in Cartagena who manage apartments to your satisfaction. Last month, Mery recommended I contact Juan Venturra when she was not able to help me, so as far as I can tell, he is a reliable person as well.

Jelly Donut

Jeff997

12-19-06, 01:07

Oh yes, LOL LOL LOL!

Call Mery and ask what apartments are available. She has already lost almost all of them. Seems I am right.

LOL!!!LOL!! Good call about "Jeff998"

Beavis

12-19-06, 03:40

Perhaps Tom33 knows more about this than anybody but there are several people who are saying this. I have used her and she treated me fine but there are a few people claiming this. Tom what's up?

Sylvester

12-19-06, 03:57

I have been hearing some reports that Merry got caught stealing from some people. I do not know if this is true. Does anyone know? I have a reservation with her in February and am a little concerned.

I have used Mery on many occasions and never had any problems. She was always more helpful. On one occasion I overpaid and upon realizing that I had NO issue getting the overpayment back from her. My experiences with her have been positive, I have no negatives to report.

Jeff999, you have some personal axe to grind against Mery or are you just a mark for Juan Ventura ? Bring forth these so called reports you claim to have.

Dodger Bulldog

12-19-06, 04:51

It seems a lot of the people who wrote these gushing reports about how great Mery is were simply owners trying to promote their own properties.BTW, I am one of the members who wrote "gushing" about how well Mery treated me. I certainly am not an owner trying to rent an apartment, just a monger who appreciated her service.

How the hell can the "Jeffs" say that they know who posts here, anyway? Does he have access to our IP addresses so he can look up our true identities?

When he claims to know who writes what here, he is full of shit.

DB

Dodger Bulldog

12-19-06, 05:56

Perhaps Tom33 knows more about this than anybody but there are several people who are saying this. I have used her and she treated me fine but there are a few people claiming this. Tom what's up?If they are saying this, it is not on this board. Nor were there any negative reports on the other Sex Guide that I occasionally check.

I just skimmed back six pages and 89 reports, back through October 28, and unless I missed something, no one except the Jeff boys have complained about Mery on this thread.

I also went through four pages and 59 reports on the "Cartagena Lists" thread, back to June 25. One of the Jeffs, Jeff997 trashed her (does he aways have to sign up with a different name to get back on?). Other than that, in one post NPaul1 questioned if she was paying the landlords in full.

No monger ever complained about her in all those reports.

All you need to do is look at Mery's webpage and you will see she only has a couple of apartments left.I also check her out her site. She has four apartments listed. It seems to me in the past there were more, but I really don't recall.

I guess if all of the units disappear, we'll know that the owners took their business elsewhere.

But, at least during the time that I reviewed, I did not see a single report from mongers complaining about her service.

DB

Treeshark

12-19-06, 15:39

If Mery loses her rental places who profits ?????????

According to the Jeffs :-) "there is another guy named Micheal who will be taken over about a dozen of Mery's apartments."

Treeshark scratches his head with his fin and wonders wtf is going on.

Beavis

12-19-06, 15:46

If they are saying this, it is not on this board. Nor were there any negative reports on the other Sex Guide that I occasionally check.

I just skimmed back six pages and 89 reports, back through October 28, and unless I missed something, no one except the Jeff boys have complained about Mery on this thread.

I also went through four pages and 59 reports on the "Cartagena Lists" thread, back to June 25. One of the Jeffs, Jeff997 trashed her (does he aways have to sign up with a different name to get back on?). Other than that, in one post NPaul1 questioned if she was paying the landlords in full.

No monger ever complained about her in all those reports.

I also check her out her site. She has four apartments listed. It seems to me in the past there were more, but I really don't recall.

I guess if all of the units disappear, we'll know that the owners took their business elsewhere.

But, at least during the time that I reviewed, I did not see a single report from mongers complaining about her service.

DB

A few very well known guys are saying this. I do not know, it has zero effect on me, all I was doing was saying that this has been said by some very reputable people that have been going there for many years. We need to wait for some input from somebody who knows like Tom33 but it is not just a rumor started by a newbie.

Tom 33

12-19-06, 18:36

I am in MDE looking for an apartment to buy. I won´t be reading this site regularly until Jan. 21 or so.

Mery has lost the management of many apartments. However, I do not want to get into any whys or wherefores. I live in Laguito. Mery still owns one apartment in Laguito. You should have no problem renting that from her. I would have no qualms about renting from her. She is a very nice lady.

Jeff997

12-19-06, 19:59

You guys are funny. None of you have any facts about Mery so you just insult me instead of discussing what I am saying. Obviously none of you are lawyers.

As I said right from the start, Mery has lost almost all of her apartments because she was caught stealing. This fact has now been confirmed by several members of this and other forums. You can all say I am not credible but the fact remains the other long term members are now saying exactly what I said from the beginning. It looks like I was right.

I am posting this information for a reason which is to benefit the users of this forum. I had reservations with one of Mery's apartments that got cancelled once she lost it. I only heard about Mery losing the apartment from another post. I then inquired to find out if it was true. It turns out that Mery did in fact lose the apartment but DID NOT tell me. So, had I showed up in February I would have been screwed! I am not happy about this. She should have emailed me to let me know she was out of business. Everyone else in this forum can benefit from knowing this information since they too might have a booking that is no longer valid.

Some people on here are saying what a wonderful lady she is. If you had a great experience in the past the congadulations. I personally would not stay anywhere that is being managed by someone accused of stealing. I am sure the apartment owners know her much better than any of the ass-kissing posters do. If the owners do not trust her then neither will I.

Jeff997

12-19-06, 20:22

The reason no one complains about her service is because they will get attacked by everyone like what is happening to me right now. However, I believe to listen to the facts and not to insult other people.

I have been learning a lot about this whole apartment scam and feel I should expose it for what it is.

Yes, there are four apartments listed still on Mery's site that are owned by 3 different owners. The other 15 are already gone. However, Mery does not own the web site. The web site is owned by one of the owner of the apartment they call PM703. When you send an email to the site it is not answered by Mery but directly by one of the owners. I suspect that they are looking for a new manager right now but do not want to announce to the whole world that the person they entrusted their apartments to was a thief. The bottom line is Mery is out of business with the gringo owners.

I also check her out her site. She has four apartments listed. It seems to me in the past there were more, but I really don't recall.

I guess if all of the units disappear, we'll know that the owners took their business elsewhere.

But, at least during the time that I reviewed, I did not see a single report from mongers complaining about her service.

DB

Blue Jazz20

12-19-06, 20:57

Okay, I'm sure that the Senior members will probably also point out my low post count but I'm offering up this recent experience with no partiality. I'm going to Cartagena tomorrow and I contacted both Mery and Juan. It took Mery 4 days to get back to me and then when I responded, I still haven't heard back from her in over a week. Juan has gotten back to me the same day everytime I responded and even when one of my emails that I tried to send didn't seem to go through to him, he sent another email to confirm giving me instructions on address location how much to expect to pay from the airport.

I will post a follow up report to give you the final outcome when I arrive and have gone through the whole process but this is what I've experienced from both. Just the facts. I don't know either one and don't have any previous bias as this is my first trip to Cartagena.

Anyway, Mery seemed to always have a great rep and I'm not sure what's going on these days but I don't deal with the past, I deal with the here and now so for now, Juan is geting my business and if I come back and it looks like Mery has improved her communications and business situation, she will be contacted.

Jelly Donut

12-20-06, 00:21

You guys are funny. None of you have any facts about Mery so you just insult me instead of discussing what I am saying. Obviously none of you are lawyers.

My impression is that Mery is successful in renting apartments in Cartagena, (I've rented three different places from her in the past month) and you would like to redirect her business to Juan Venturra. That is the underlying message you make.

You are attacking her character to move your message. As you know, in the United States we sometimes call that a 'cheap shot'. Personally, I am not insulted by the use of this kind of thing and, since it is often effective, I would not insult you for trying it on forum members.

Still, it doesn't add up to a serious argument. If you can break down for me how much money I will save by renting apartments from someone other than Mery I'd be interested in hearing about it. That would be a useful fact and part of a reasonable argument.

Jeff997

12-20-06, 02:11

Again, another person tries to twist what I am saying instead of looking at the facts. I think I mentioned Juan perhaps once? Was it even in this thread? Obviously if Mery is not renting apartments anymore the customers are all going to go to Juan. I did not make it that way. He is the only other guy who has been renting gringo apartments in Laguito over the years.

I was not the person who made Mery steal the money. That was her own doing and now she must face the consequences. My own axe to grind is I did not like the fact she was not planing on telling me or anyone else that our reservations were canceled. She was planning on leaving us on the street.

One of the owners who caught her stealing posted on another board that he gave her an email to send to all the people who had reservations saying that they should contact the new property manager. Mery did not send out this letter to anyone. I do not care what personal problem Mery has with this owner, but she should have respected her customers and informed us that our reservations were canceled. That would have been the honorable thing to do. I guess though when you are a thief you have little honor?

How much money will you save? Well, that might all depend on how much money you leave laying around for her to steal. But the fact remains that in a short while you will have no choice but to rent from someone else. Mery is out of business.

My impression is that Mery is successful in renting apartments in Cartagena, (I've rented three different places from her in the past month) and you would like to redirect her business to Juan Venturra. That is the underlying message you make.

You are attacking her character to move your message. As you know, in the United States we sometimes call that a 'cheap shot'. Personally, I am not insulted by the use of this kind of thing and, since it is often effective, I would not insult you for trying it on forum members.

Still, it doesn't add up to a serious argument. If you can break down for me how much money I will save by renting apartments from someone other than Mery I'd be interested in hearing about it. That would be a useful fact and part of a reasonable argument.

MJG Dogs

12-20-06, 08:34

Actually Jeff, there are a few others besides Juan. But I will agree with you, I also rented from Juan and from Mery. I also did not have any problems with Juan. The only drawback with Juan, was that he changes rates during seasons, eg: he gets top dollar during Miss Colombia etc, which is basic supply and demand, and I have no beef at all, where as Mery always charged me the same rate, regardless of season. Mery's rates were just about identical to Juan's regular rates, but Juan has Marinare # 802, which is one the best units. I do like # 703 in playa mar, which I believe at this time, until verified is still being rented by Mery.

Again Jeff, you are right there was an incident between Mery and ******, whom had several units that Mery was managing for him. Tom 33, has the best answer to all of this backing and fourthing. It is done with, and leave Mery alone, it is what it is and business relationships are like Virgins and Roses, They last while they last.................

Jelly Donut

12-20-06, 14:19

Let's end this thread.....

Good point. Of course, the thing about apartments is that it's probably harder to find an one in Cartagena over the next three weeks than a woman or a rose.

Treeshark

12-20-06, 18:43

I find it amazing and amusing that no one is really giving out any facts about what is going on with Mery. The only real fact I have seen posted is that she has lost many of the units that she was managing.

I will speculate a bit. Lets pretend I am a gringo who bought an apartment unit in Cartagena. I will use it for 4 weeks a year and rent it out for the other 48 weeks. I have Mery manage it for me. A year passes and I find that Mery has only managed to rent it out for 20 weeks. Since the unit that I bought is the best in Cartagena, I decide that something is wrong. I know what is going on!!!!! Mery is renting out my unit and keeping all the money. She is telling me that it is empty. She is stealing my rental money..

Well maybe.

Or maybe the demand for rental units is a lot less then the supply of units most of the time.

Now the Jeffs :-) sound like an owner of units that Mery was managing. At least to me. Years ago my family had a beach house in NC that we rented out for a summer with a realtor. The people in the house next door were personal friends. The realtor rented out the place a few times, told us that it had not been rented and kept the money. I know that I was mad as hell about that.

I know someone that owns units that Mery managed for him. So sometime I will ask him what is going on. But sometimes it is just fun to guess what is going on and then find out later how good your guesses really were

Jeff997

12-20-06, 19:14

The facts are this:

1) She has lost almost all of her apartments from more than one owner.

2) The reason she lost them is she was caught stealing more than once.

3) Other people are now coming forward saying they had bad experiences with her.

4) I personally can say that she did not tell me that she lost the apartments so I would have been left stranded when I showed up in Cartagena.

5) One of the owners has posted that he provided Mery with a letter to send to people who had reservations informing them to contact the new property manager. Mery did not send out this letter which shows that she does not give a shit about the well being of the clients.

There are several facts and even more information is coming out each day.

These posts by Treeshark are pretty clueless. As I read them I am starting to wonder about the intelligence of the people here. Mery has been caught red handed stealing. She is losing all her apartments over this. These are undeniable facts. Yet, Treeshark likes to post imaginary posts defending her. I find the absence of logic here incredible.

Here is my little "guess". I guess that in about a week Mery will have to come forward and admit she has no more apartments. When that happens the people on here arguing will post comments like "well lets not talk about this anymore" instead of admitting how wrong they were.

Mery has one owner who I will call Mr. B who will continue to defend her to his grave. Mr. B will be the one single owner who still allows her to rent his apartment. However, he has publicly posted that his apartment is for sale so perhaps he is trying to get out of this situation as well. Some of the clueless people on here will say "hey she must be honest since she is still renting Mr. B's apartment"! However, every other apartment owner will have dumped her by next week.

I will also "guess" that there will be many new reports coming out by people who got robbed by Mery but did not want to say anything since bootlickers like Treeshark love to defend thieves using twisted logic and unrelated stories that have nothing to do with the evidence at hand.

I find it amazing and amusing that no one is really giving out any facts about what is going on with Mery. The only real fact I have seen posted is that she has lost many of the units that she was managing.

I will speculate a bit. Lets pretend I am a gringo who bought an apartment unit in Cartagena. I will use it for 4 weeks a year and rent it out for the other 48 weeks. I have Mery manage it for me. A year passes and I find that Mery has only managed to rent it out for 20 weeks. Since the unit that I bought is the best in Cartagena, I decide that something is wrong. I know what is going on!!!!! Mery is renting out my unit and keeping all the money. She is telling me that it is empty. She is stealing my rental money..

Well maybe.

Or maybe the demand for rental units is a lot less then the supply of units most of the time.

Now the Jeffs :-) sound like an owner of units that Mery was managing. At least to me. Years ago my family had a beach house in NC that we rented out for a summer with a realtor. The people in the house next door were personal friends. The realtor rented out the place a few times, told us that it had not been rented and kept the money. I know that I was mad as hell about that.

I know someone that owns units that Mery managed for him. So sometime I will ask him what is going on. But sometimes it is just fun to guess what is going on and then find out later how good your guesses really were

Neh Hoe

12-21-06, 00:40

She was a fixture in LDV although she told me she was from Bogota.Yes she was a blonde spinner with a smoking body who was all time in the cama.I never saw her in LDV in November so I asked a local and he said "Angie marry gringo" ....guess he was hypnotized by her charms!A friend told me I should check this forum out because he thinks you guys are talking about my new girlfriend. Which I did happen to meet at LDV in Aug., she is blond, has a tattoo of tweedy on her leg and yes she has a beautiful body. She says the other gringo was a bad person and had her working in the disco. I am taking care of her and her family money needs and I am thinking about about marrying her. She is the most wonderful lady I have ever met.

Dogman2

12-21-06, 06:47

Please try to get your facts straight before you post things that are unsubstantiated. You speculate as to what might happen when you show up this coming February and also state many things as fact that simply are untrue.

I have two apartments that Mery rents for me and I will soon be updating the website with all new apartments that she will have available, including 4 units in the new Mirador del Laguito building. Two of these units are completed and furnished for rental, the other two are in the final stages and will be available soon.

My name is Dogman and I endorse this message. (that is a joke)

Treeshark

12-21-06, 12:34

Jejejejejejejejejeje

"Yet, Treeshark likes to post imaginary posts defending her"

Treeshark scratches his head with his fin and wonders how the jeffie boys managed to read his imaginary post???? Perhaps if you snort imaginary Colombian joy powder, you can read imaginary posts???

Oh well, to this humble old Treeshark a fact is whatever Tom33 says. And Tom33 said "Mery has lost the management of many apartments. However, I do not want to get into any whys or wherefores. I live in Laguito. Mery still owns one apartment in Laguito. You should have no problem renting that from her. I would have no qualms about renting from her. She is a very nice lady."

The old Treeshark trusts Tom33.

Now the jeffie boys CLAIM that Mery has been stealing but gives no details. Stealing what???? Condoms??? Chicas??? Camas??? Skimming rent money??

LETS HEAR SOME FUCKING DETAILS.

My logic is pretty simple. I will believe whatever Tom33 says.

But the old Treeshark wonders why the jeffie boys are on this crusade against Mery. The jeffie boys claim that it because they would have been left stranded when they showed up in Cartagena. And wanted to warn others. As those who have been in Cartagena in Feb know, finding an apartment in Feb is about as hard as finding a hooker in LDV.

And I have never rented from Mery and have only met the lady twice.

Dogman, if your units in the new Mirador del Laguito building have hot water then maybe I will rent one next time I am down there.

My name is Treeshark and I endorse this message.

True Hunter

12-21-06, 13:52

Treeshark, I can answer many questions regarding Mery, but first:

I was on this website briefly 3 years or so ago and couldn’t file my posts, I managed to post a few posts but the rest wouldn’t upload to the site so I left, I would prefer to use my normal handle, Hunter, but I am using True Hunter instead.

I could be a fake, if you don’t have my e-mail, Treeshark the last time we met was earlier in the year at Mangos in Medellin, and I was sat by the main dancing platform when Aussie Greg brought you over. I am also meeting Tom 33 this Saturday night for a night out in Medellin.

Onto Mery, I found a lot of lies with regards to Mery over the last 6 months, mostly over the last 6 weeks, a few weeks ago I started looking into things more deeply and un-covered a lot of things.

I informed a number of the other owners, as of 1.5 weeks go, some have left, some are leaving, at least two say they are sticking with Mery for now, Mr B. and Dogman2 are the ones sticking with her, I have not been in contact with people regards this issue for 1.5 weeks, so I don’t know the present situation of all the owners.

I was asked by some of the owners to try and sort the problem out with her, to me that is impossible as I don´make deals with theifs, also not to post anything on the web etc., I told them that I wouldn’t start any threads, which I haven’t, but would reply to any where this came up. BUT if I see people defending Mery I will post each and every time, quite simply I am out to destroy her and will be doing whatever is necessary, I have no time for people like her, some may say that this is because I want her clients, but if this was the case why would I switch to two new managers who have a few clients and leave one who has a large client base. In my opinion there are more than enough people going to Cartagena that rent apartments for quite a few rental managers.

I have not heard about Mery directly stealing from client, my investigation didn’t go down that route, only heard about that on the web, how true this is I have no idea, but if she stole money from me and other owners, why not from the renters.

As to the fraud, there are a number; I will go over them if people wish. Proof is plenty full from the cleaner, to the doorman, Merys hand written accounts, to the building registration books, to people who have stayed at the apts, etc. whenever I am in Ctg, I will quite happily show the information regarding PROOF on the fraud to anybody seriously interested, I am rarely 100% sure of anything in life, but I am 100% sure Mery is a thief and a lier. On the net I can only go over it.

Now that I have been banned from another website, I will post here with regards to Colombian information as I do elsewhere, hopefully on issues more related to this website.

Hunter

MJG Dogs

12-21-06, 13:56

Well;

Upon reviewing Dogman2's posting, treeshark's takes and Tom 33's posting, I have a clearer picture.

Again no one knows all of the facts, between Mery and H*****, except the involved parties. But hey maybe the scandal is as bad as the UN food for Oil program....

Well Mery must be Guilty as charged, according to the psuedo- EU World Court, maybe should be handcuffed and flown to Brussels and put in jail, before any trail occurs,kind of like Milosovic was, oh better yet maybe since Koffe Annun has nothing to do now, he can be flown to Cartagena and mediate the whole situation, maybe bring up a resolution before the UN security Council, but wait the United States and Great britian will veto any resolution. It wouldn't work, Koffe would steal ALL of the money from ALL of the aprtment owners

Now that Jeff997,998 or jeff 3 pie squared has been exposed by Dogman2 and Treeshark maybe it is time to shut his pie hole, for if Mery was a thief, I seriously think that Tom33, Treeshark and especially Dogman2 would come to her defense. Jeff9997,998 and pie squared, also mentions Bruce in his posts, perhaps he also has an axe to grind with Bruce?

Well now that Jeff997-998 pie squared has indicated that he will be in Cartagena in Feb, lets all hope he has a great time, maybe he can hang out at LDV with the Italians. Also Jeff997,998, Mery does not like smoking in her units, smoking contributes to Global Warming

what a crock of shit this all is.......

I am MJGDogs , and I along with Tom Tancredo, approve of this message.....

Jelly Donut

12-21-06, 14:35

Well, it is a fact that I rented two different apartments from Mery this month. I'm currently planning on renting another apartment from her in January. So, she is in business and rents at least three apartments - one Marina del Rey, one in Playa Mar and one in Torre Centauro.

My name is not Jelly Donut, but I do shamelessly endorse this message

Chido

12-21-06, 14:41

I tried sending you a PM, can you send me a PM with the cost or renting your place. I'll be there Dec 29 to Jan 8. Are they one or 2 bedroom? Thanks

Please try to get your facts straight before you post things that are unsubstantiated. You speculate as to what might happen when you show up this coming February and also state many things as fact that simply are untrue.

I have two apartments that Mery rents for me and I will soon be updating the website with all new apartments that she will have available, including 4 units in the new Mirador del Laguito building. Two of these units are completed and furnished for rental, the other two are in the final stages and will be available soon.

My name is Dogman and I endorse this message. (that is a joke)

Chido

12-21-06, 14:56

I've rented from Mery at least 10 times over the past several years. From a renter's perspective, I have never had any problems with her. She has always treated me very well and gone out of her way to help me and in terms of customer service gets a 10. She quotes me a price, and I agree to it or tell her it is too high. If I think the price is in line with the market, then I rent from her. I have no idea what her arrangement is with the owner and that's not my business. I do think that she, like many people in her culture, will try to make an extra $$ where she can. She used to get me Miss Colombia tickets in advance at cost for the bathing suit competition. Now, she is trying to scalp them to me since she saw an opportunity. So, I don't buy them from her and try to get the best price I can. She tells me she had to pay a higher than face to get them. I cannot verify if this is the truth or not, so I will not judge her as I know what the situation is as far as making an extra peso when the opportunity exists. If I don't like her price, I go elsewhere, plain and simple. Until I see an actual owner post a bad experience here, then this bs is just unsubstantiated rumor.

Dogman2

12-21-06, 15:36

i tried sending you a pm, can you send me a pm with the cost or renting your place. i'll be there dec 29 to jan 8. are they one or 2 bedroom? thankschido - i am unable to send a pm, please excuse this post as self promotion of my property, but it is in response to a direct question.

mery has the info on pricing and availability, one of my units is a 2 bedroom in torre centauro, the other is a a bedroom in mirador del laguito. both have airconditioning, hot water, and high speed internet at 256k.

i will post a link to (colombiarental.com) a site i have set up for her apartments, this will be posted in the classified section of the colombia forum. keep in mind that i am updating that site as soon as the new photos can be implemented.

Treeshark

12-21-06, 17:04

There are only 3 people that I trust in Colombia.

Hunter is one of them.

In other words mate, she was renting out the units when she claimed that they were empty and keeping the money. The same thing that happened to my family years ago when we rented our beach house. And I was pissed as hell about it at the time too.

I kinda thought that was what was going on.

To err is human, to forgive is divine. Try to think of those kind of thoughts, but do what you gotta do.

I got into a fight with the chica that night i saw you. The first fight that we had in 2 years. So I am still single.

Now to be crystal clear for everyone.

I believe anything that Hunter says and I accept it as truth.

My name is Tiburon and I endorse this message.

True Hunter

12-21-06, 17:58

Jeff997

12-21-06, 19:19

Now we can all see why Dogman is defending Mery! It turns out he is one of the few owners that still trusts her! Obviously we cannot trust his opinion on this matter since he is profiting from her.

Hunter has now come forward on this forum to expose Mery as the thief she is.

All I can say is "I WAS RIGHT! I WAS RIGHT!!!"

All you people who did not want to believe me look pretty stupid right now, don't you? The truth has come out like I said it would. Seems the people arguing with me were making money from Mery, and now one of the owners is explaining in public that Mery was stealing.

I feel like patting myself on the back for being so damn right!

As I said from the beginning, Mery was stealing from clients and for this she is out of business. Anyone who would do business from an established thief is not helping us renters. We must all beware of Mery and Dogman!

Jeff997

12-21-06, 19:22

Are you the owner of that place way off in Bocogrande that no one wants to rent?

Please try to get your facts straight before you post things that are unsubstantiated. You speculate as to what might happen when you show up this coming February and also state many things as fact that simply are untrue.

I have two apartments that Mery rents for me and I will soon be updating the website with all new apartments that she will have available, including 4 units in the new Mirador del Laguito building. Two of these units are completed and furnished for rental, the other two are in the final stages and will be available soon.

My name is Dogman and I endorse this message. (that is a joke)

MJG Dogs

12-21-06, 20:25

This is all a crock of shit........

There is more emissions from this thread causing global warming, than what us evil Americans put out in a year.

Again it is Hunters and Mery's business. If Hunter wants to run Mery down, then he has a right based on a bad business relationship, but the rest of you don't know shit and should shut up.

I am MJGDogs, and I along with The Minuteman Project, The NRA, and all of us whom want the UN and the EU to go fuck themselves, approve of this message

Jeff997

12-21-06, 20:45

You are obviously not the brightest bulb out there! It is ALL of our business since we use to rent from this thief. If Mery steals from one person who entrusted her with his properties then she WILL steal from anyone. This is how things work when dealing with thieves. Also, I had reservations that got screwed up because Mery lost the apartment. She did not tell me. So this effects me personally. People on this forum need to be informed when someone is stealing from us mongers.

I am getting a tired of some of the people who are defending Mery. She was caught red handed stealing. To me there is no defence. It seems a lot of people here are completely bias since they own apartments she rents. I know at least one of the owners has no choice but to deal with Mery because none of the other rental people will do business with him. He has already asked Juan several times to take over his apartments but Juan will not do it. So since he is stuck with Mery he will defend her regardless of how irrational his arguments are.

This is all a crock of shit.

There is more emissions from this thread causing global warming, than what us evil Americans put out in a year.

Again it is Hunters and Mery's business. If Hunter wants to run Mery down, then he has a right based on a bad business relationship, but the rest of you don't know shit and should shut up.

Treeshark

12-21-06, 22:06

Treeshark, yes that was one of things she was doing, there is a great deal more besides.

Yes you told me on tyhe PM at PBH that you had ditched your future wife, I didn´t want to bring it up.

A funny thing just happened, I posted your name on the previouse post and Tom33, I then went out to Envigado, in Exito who should I bump into but Tom33, I hardly ever see a foreigner, let alone bump into one who I know and just posted his name on here, its a small world.

Hunter

"As to the fraud, there are a number; I will go over them if people wish"

Mery has been a landmark in Cartagena like LDV. So yes please tell all the things that happened.

I know that lots of people think the world of Mery but it would be best to know the truth.

Hunter

12-22-06, 00:36

Treeshark, sorry it’s long, here is a slightly different version that I sent to some of the owners a few weeks ago:

Over the first two years or so I was rarely in Ctg, during that time Mery seemed to Mery a bit disorganised but a trustworthy person, as nearly everybody else also thought. This year I spent 6 months in Ctg as I wished to re-model all the apts I control and sort out other businesses, I was also contemplating slightly changing the management structure of the apts I control, so wished to observe what was going on.

During my observation phase I realised Mery was far more disorganised than I thought, I also came to doubt that she was a nice a person as many thought, from some of the things I saw her do and heard her say, the more worrying one was, I saw Mery lie a good half a dozen plus times, when a lie was not needed, as there was really nothing to lie about, it seemed to me that a lie came way to easily to her lips.

First of all I have several things that I have NOT proved sufficiently, although there are strong indications from what I am seeing that fraud was committed, over the coming months I will have a more information to evaluate whether I am correct with these assumptions, these are not on the list below.

This list is a slimmed down version of what I would tell anybody face to face and should be seen as nothing more than the highlights, even skimmed down it’s to long, once questions started getting asked more lies stated appearing, a lot more, a few of the lies are below included below:

STOLEN CLIENT

I had received a number of complaints from tenants regarding Mery lack of responses from e-mails and other admin related problems previous to my long trip to Ctg, so after my observation phase, I set up a new system with some input from others, which Mery agreed to join for the apts that I control and one other initially, there would be two managers Mery/Karina, Karina would mostly be behind the scenes doing the admin things and responding to e-mails, they would split the commissions 10% & 5%.

A number of people who regularly get asked by tourists who turn up at the last minute and looking for an apt, were going to feed them to Merys apts (they were presently feeding them to other apt managers), most of these people won’t deal with Mery as they find her to difficult, so they would feed Michael them, who would know from the booking site which apts were empty. They would make their own commissions that wouldn’t affect Mery/Karina commissions.

Mery stole Michael’s client, probably because she didn't want to give 5% commission to Karina or pocket the lot if she is not declaring the rental income to the other owner.

Mery made up three lies:

Lie 1: Michael called Mery that night to check that his client had arrived OK, she told him that he had seen the apt and didn’t like it and wanted another apt. Michael had showed this guy the apt the day before and he had told him he definitely wanted it.

Lie 2: When confronted face to face the next day Mery claimed the guy wanted a cheaper apt which is also a lie because Mery ended up charging him a little more than we were.

Lie 3: I was in Panama at the time, when I confronted on my return a few days later, she told me a different story, I had had enough by then and can’t remember the story now.

Client Story: Michael asked him the next day, when the Client turned up at the apt building (there was three of mine empty, including the one he had booked), Mery said there were no apts available in the building and she took him over to another building, I got Michael do double check this story with him, before I confronted Mery.

Unfortunately for Mery Michael knew the client, when I confronted her regards what happened, she made a third story up, I said fine, but Michael says the client has a different story, telling her it, the client is in the apt now and gets up early we can go and meet him, Mery said I am to busy, I have an appointment elsewhere, ok I said how about later today, fine she says, ok I say arrange the time call me and I will meet both of you, she never called, I gave her two chances to prove her story/ies. The client didn't leave Ctg for a few days more, Michael saw him at Loco Gringo with me a couple of days later, pointed to him and said that’s the guy, I said no need to bother him now, Mery proved her guilt.

This is the point I ditched Mery and started checking up on things.

CAR PARKING

Car parking spaces in one building rented in high seasons, 10-15,000 pesos a day, the doorman gave Mery the money, and I asked 3 of them they confirm the same story, with two witnesses with me when I was asking the questions, nothing logged down anywhere.

Car parked in one of my spaces in November, authorized by Mery, it had been there for 4 months, for how much or what favour…..?

NOTE, one owner (a Mery defender), said maybe Mery thought she could just take the money and didn’t need to tell you as it was so little, I replied, why then did Mery and another person put notices out looking for people to rent the spaces.

CHRISTMAS MONEY

Mery said to me that it’s a good idea to give a tip for the doorman at Christmas (I think she said for the cleaner as well but not 100% sure on that one), I said that’s fine, how much did you give, as I was doing the calculations a few months later, she said 140,000 pesos.
My construction manager has a painter who works for him, who is married to the cleaner, he mentioned in a conversation the cleaner had never received any Christmas presents off Mery in 5 years for working for her. Later I remembered the above and checked my accounts to confirm the amount, I checked with the 3 doorman at one building who had been working there 14-16 years & also asked the cleaner, they had received nothing.

NOTE, this can’t be a calculation error as Mery told me she had already given them the money and we were going through the numbers a few months after Christmas.

SHEETS & TOWELS

On handing over to new management Mery/Karina, I found 9 sets of missing sheets, I replaced the sheets.

After the stolen client problem above with Michael, I went on yet another handover with Mery, to check the sheets and towels, I found the cleaning cupboard doors open and un-locked in the first apt that I went to, all the sheets, towels, cleaning products gone. I said to Mery where everything is, she said its nothing to do with me, Michael rents the apt, I said Michael hasn’t got any keys for the cleaning cupboards, you haven’t given them to us yet. She kept repeating its Michaels fault, several times, I got pissed at her and started shouting at her, she then realized that Michael didn’t have the keys and she had them, she then blamed the cleaner, I had enough by then and told to get out of the apt.

NON-BOOKINGS

I checked 114 bookings via people who stayed in my apts who e-mailed me or the logging in book with the doorman at the buildings where the apts are located, 4 were not logged down on Merys accounts.

F/X FRAUD

This is the main fraud, it is harder to get a good average number of how much Mery has been skimming off, because most people can’t remember what they paid unless it was recent, so I have only checked 7 recent dollar bookings to people who stayed in my apts who can remember what they paid, Mery gives a different rate to what I should be getting, about 15% less on average.

Mery main defender keeps saying it just calculation errors....

NOTE TO CALCULATION ERRORS

In October and November there was 76 bill payments, there was 1 error (I have found errors here before over the last 2.5 years), I count this as an error as sometimes I find the numbers in my favour, sometimes not.

Fraud is when all the errors are in Merys favour, none in mine, such as the FX rate Mery gives me.

As to math’s, Mery uses a calculator it is just as easy to type 2109 x 10 as it is to type 2000 x 10.

Mery is in and out of the FX houses all the time, she knows the exchange rates very well, where the best deals are etc.

I have been busy and rarely in Ctg and not checked Merys dollar exchange rate for about 1.5 years or so, I had checked a couple of people about 1 year or so ago, but they had both paid pesos. The rental payments in dollars that I checked previous to that I, were all fine to a small percentage in her favour 1/2%, which I had no problem with as exchange costs have to be taken into consideration etc, this proves that Mery knew how to calculate the dollar peso rate before.

During the Mery/Karina rental management (when I was in Panama), Michael was checking that one of the tenants he sent had paid their rent with Mery, Mery confirmed they had paid in dollars and then started saying that she would give x amount of pesos, Michael said, but that isn’t the correct rate, it was approx 200 pesos less a dollar than the rate at the time that you could get in Ctg, Mery blustered (if you spend a bit of time around Mery, you can see the lies coming a lot of the time, hard to explain in writing) as she realised she had made a mistaken, she then said 2,000 pesos was a round number and because the pesos jumped around a lot she was going to use that number.

Michael told me the above and about his booking that he had in one of my apts a few months earlier for his family visiting Ctg, I knew he paid $75 a day, but what I didn’t know was that he couldn't pay all his bill in dollars, Mery insisted on receiving 2,400 pesos per dollar for what he couldn’t pay in dollars (roughly correct to what you should be able to exchange dollars for in Ctg at the time), yet Mery only put down 2,133 for me. It’s quite funny that she knew exactly what to charge him and what exchange rate to give to me.

I should have been checking things more regularly, but I have a lot of business interests and this is just a minor one, I also thought like many do with regards to Mery’s honesty, BUT as they say, they get caught when they get greedier.

Hunter

Sylvester

12-22-06, 01:54

A friend told me I should check this forum out because he thinks you guys are talking about my new girlfriend. Which I did happen to meet at LDV in Aug., she is blond, has a tattoo of tweedy on her leg and yes she has a beautiful body. She says the other gringo was a bad person and had her working in the disco. I am taking care of her and her family money needs and I am thinking about about marrying her. She is the most wonderful lady I have ever met.

Are you referring to this girl ?

Treeshark

12-22-06, 04:29

No need to be sorry for the long version. Truthfully you need to read the long version to get a feel for it all.

To be blunt I am lost for words about this.

No one is perfect. We all have our dark sides. It is just that for so long, so many people thought so highly of Mery. Now we see her dark side.

I never rented from her and only met her twice. I would think that for all those people to say such nice things about her for so many years that there must be a lot of good things about her. But you know her better then I do.

When you forgive someone who has done you wrong, you also forgive yourself. But after reading about how she failed to give the doormen the Christmas bonus, I can not fault Hunter for wanting a bit of revenge.

Again for those who do not know Hunter, I trust Hunter and believe everything that he has said about Mery. Hunter is not the type of person who would tells lies about Mery because their business relationship went bad.

For those of you that think that Mery is such a great person, I am sorry that things have turned out this way. If you wish to keep renting from her or to use her as your rental agent, I will not condemn you. At least you have a better idea of the real Mery.

Npaul1

12-22-06, 23:58

CAR PARKING

Car parking spaces in one building rented in high seasons, 10-15,000 pesos a day, the doorman gave Mery the money, and I asked 3 of them they confirm the same story, with two witnesses with me when I was asking the questions, nothing logged down anywhere.

Car parked in one of my spaces in November, authorized by Mery, it had been there for 4 months, for how much or what favour…..?

NOTE, one owner (a Mery defender), said maybe Mery thought she could just take the money and didn’t need to tell you as it was so little, I replied, why then did Mery and another person put notices out looking for people to rent the spaces.

HunterI was offering to buy a unit in Mery's building and asked Mery about whether I should pay more to buy a parking space in the building or not. She told me it was not important to pay for a parking spot in the building, if I needed one there would probably be a vacant one I could use without charge FREE anytime I wanted.

Npaul1

12-23-06, 00:02

Are you referring to this girl ?Correction:

Her husband, many of you know. He was extremely upset that she continued to work at LDV when he was away. He did not want her working at LDV. It was a lie. I received a phone call from him a month ago and he is in the US trying to find out about an annulment or a divorce.

She wanted him to support her and her sister and her sister's 4 kids. When he refused to support her sister and her sister's 4 kids, she got angry at him and he finally gave up on her.

She is lying to say that he wanted her to work at LDV.

Npaul1

12-23-06, 00:06

Are you referring to this girl ?My advise to you, Sylvester, is to run the other way fast. Do not walk the other way. RUN! This woman Angie, is manipulative and a total lier.

I know her gringo husband, Mr. D., and have known him for over 5 years, was with them both in Cartegena and she totally took advantage of him. He used his retirement 401K money to live in Cartagena with her and she exploited his kindness, was demanding, and worked behind his back at LDV whenever he was gone.

Now he is pennyless and looking for work because of her.

TheShadow2

12-23-06, 03:44

Thanks for taking the time to explain what was going on. All of my dealings with Mery (three different vacations) were positive. Maybe I got lucky...

Member #4643

12-23-06, 15:27

Tom 33

12-23-06, 16:35

I didn't want to tell any tales out of school. Now that Hunter has told his side, I will say that I know and believe him.

Back to business: my novia has a nice surprise for Hunter tonight. Disfrute.

Oh, and I got the offer to purchase on an apt. in MDE signed yesterday. I might be spending a lot less time in CTG.

Sylvester

12-23-06, 17:16

My advise to you, Sylvester, is to run the other way fast. Do not walk the other way. RUN! This woman Angie, is manipulative and a total lier.

I know her gringo husband, Mr. D., and have known him for over 5 years, was with them both in Cartegena and she totally took advantage of him. He used his retirement 401K money to live in Cartagena with her and she exploited his kindness, was demanding, and worked behind his back at LDV whenever he was gone.

Now he is pennyless and looking for work because of her.

Hold on there Npaul1, I was only asking Neh Hoe if the pic I posted was the girl he was talking about. I was going to give him the same warning you gave me. To be clear, I fucked her once, thats it, thats all. Im not foolish enough to sugar daddy some fucking puta.

Guys like that are pathetic. Ho's are for renting, not long term financing. Even children leaving Disney land know they cant take Mickey Mouse home with them. Nor do the kids western union Minnie Mouse payments to ride Space Mountain when the kids are not at the amusement park.

It is amazing how some mongers loose all common sense when out of there home country. Would you marry a ***** in your own country ? Probably not. So why are so many mongers bank rolling foreign *****s ? Those girls are putas, good for one thing, that is it.

Find them, Fuck them, Forget them.

Sylvester

12-23-06, 17:24

I am trying to get information to plan a scuba trip to Colombia. I was inspired by Zidaho's trip to Islas Rosarios.

There seems to be so much interest in Mery here that I am wondering if anyone has actually fucked this lady.

A posting on her talents in bed might improve the recent quality of the discussions on this board.

In addition, could someone offer an opinion for me: if you were looking for a couple of chicas to take to Islas Rosarios, would you look for them in Cartegena or somewhere else in Colombia (for example, Medellin)?

Forest, that last thing that comes to mind when looking at Mery is her bedroom skills. She would go broke as a puta.

As for Isla Rosario, just take a costena (cartagena chica) with you. Dont waste time or money bringing in a paisa ( mde chica). If you must have a paisa, just find one in Ctg, lots of paisa putas there.

Hunter

12-23-06, 17:36

Looking forward to tonight, I will try and keep my Rum intake down, so I don´t upset any sweet girls that your girlfriend is brining along.

Hunter

Sylvester

12-23-06, 17:37

Correction:

Her husband, many of you know. He was extremely upset that she continued to work at LDV when he was away. He did not want her working at LDV. It was a lie. I received a phone call from him a month ago and he is in the US trying to find out about an annulment or a divorce.

She wanted him to support her and her sister and her sister's 4 kids. When he refused to support her sister and her sister's 4 kids, she got angry at him and he finally gave up on her.

She is lying to say that he wanted her to work at LDV.

Another case of captain-save-a-ho gone bad. These putas take kindness for weakness. The more you do for them, the more they ask for, and the less they appreciate it. These putas have no concept of common sense. The only thing they understand is money and creative ways to separate you from it.

Some of these mongers have forgotten the golden rule which is: HE WHO HAS THE GOLD MAKES THE RULES. Dont import these putas, dont marry these putas, that gives them too much power. Rent em and forget em

Dodger Bulldog

12-23-06, 19:03

Dont waste time or money bringing in a paisa ( mde chica). If you must have a paisa, just find one in Ctg, lots of paisa putas there.This is good advice.

Besides, it seems all the hot Colombianas claim they are from Medellin, whether they are or not. You won't know the difference.

DB

Jelly Donut

12-23-06, 19:09

....looking for a couple of chicas to take to Islas Rosarios, would you look for them in Cartegena or somewhere else in Colombia (for example, Medellin)?

A lot of the girls are impressed with the aquarium "Oceanario Islas del Rosario". Some girls seem to have a thing for dolphins, but my impression is a lot of the more popular girls in Cartagena have already been there. So, if you can find a girl(s) who has not been there, you are better off. You'll get better value if it's her first time there or, maybe, if her eyes really light up at the idea.

The thing about this kind of trip is, in my opinion, you have two goals that are in a small conflict. That is, a trip to the islands is a great thing if you are trying to get more of a GFE experience out of a single girl, but if you take two (or more) girls it's hard to pull off the GFE. There's no illusion that you are a couple. From reading Zidaho's reports, it's sounds like there was some difficulty managing a couple of girls for a few days i.e. they spent time on thier phones, working other opportunities.

Not that I think Zidaho was on the wrong track, he seemed to manage the situation fine. I've heard stories about a guy who was juggling three chicks in Cartagena for a number of days. It sounds like one of the best ways to work three girls is to spend a good chunk of time shopping.

Malodr

12-23-06, 19:11

A lot of the girls are impressed with the aquarium "Oceanario Islas del Rosario". Some girls seem to have a thing for dolphins, but my impression is a lot of the more popular girls in Cartagena have already been there. So, if you can find a girl(s) who has not been there, you are better off.

The thing about this kind of trip is, in my opinion, you have two goals that are in a small conflict. That is, a trip to the islands is a great thing if you are trying to get more of a GFE experience out of a single girl, but if you take two (or more) girls it's hard to pull off the GFE. There's no illusion that you are a couple. From reading Zidaho's reports, it's sounds like there was some difficulty managing a couple of girls for a few days i.e. they spent time on thier phones, working other opportunities.

Still, I've heard stories about a guy who was juggling three chicks in Cartagena for a number of days. It sounds like one of the best ways to work three girls is to spend a good chunk of time shopping.Me and my buddy took a chica each to the Islands for a day cruise. It was cool and the chicas seemed to like it.

Treeshark

12-24-06, 14:28

This is good advice.

Besides, it seems all the hot Colombianas claim they are from Medellin, whether they are or not. You won't know the difference.

DB

When the chica says she is a paisa, ask her if she has ever worked at Mayorista or knows about Mayorista.The chicas there charge 20,000 (twenty thousand) pesos for 1/2 hour. If she does not know about Mayorista, ask her if she knows where Mangos is and tell her Mayorista is 10 minutes from there.

So the "paisa" at LDV wants 200,000 pesos for short time and you tell her that you pay the paisas at Mayorista 20,000. You can bargain from there. :-)

Also just because you can not reach an agreement one night, does not mean that you can not work sometime out another. I was at a casa in Cartagena and the chica asked for 150,000 pesos for a hour at the casa plus the room fee. I thanked her for the kind offer, said no, and walked out and went to another casa. The next time I returned to that casa, she told me 30,000 pesos for a hour.

Remember that it is a game. Play the game.

Gonzo

12-24-06, 19:15

A lot of the girls are impressed with the aquarium "Oceanario Islas del Rosario". Some girls seem to have a thing for dolphins, but my impression is a lot of the more popular girls in Cartagena have already been there. So, if you can find a girl(s) who has not been there, you are better off. You'll get better value if it's her first time there or, maybe, if her eyes really light up at the idea.I took a cute Bogotona to the Rosario Islands and had a great time - so did she. Being an landlubber, she was pretty excited about being on the 'Miami Vice' fast-boat to the islands - she was thrilled, but when the boat took some serious air, the look on her face was priceless.

So I agree, find a chica who has not 'been there and done that'.

BTW, speaking of fast-boats, if you or your chica happen to have back problems, you may want to consider the larger, slow boat to the islands if the seas are choppy that day. When the boat take air, they come down in the water like hitting cement, and it can be pretty nasty on one's lower back.

Dodger Bulldog

12-24-06, 20:41

A lot of the girls are impressed with the aquarium "Oceanario Islas del Rosario". Some girls seem to have a thing for dolphins, but my impression is a lot of the more popular girls in Cartagena have already been there. So, if you can find a girl(s) who has not been there, you are better off. You'll get better value if it's her first time there or, maybe, if her eyes really light up at the idea.Totally agreed.

Take the fast boat there. It's a blast.

I took a regular non-working girl (professional chemist). She loved the ride, and was absolutely blown away by the aquarium. I don't believe that she had ever seen any of these animals before.

The aquarium is obviously a big thing in Colombia, but it is extremely rinky dink by our standards, as you can see from these photos. I can't imagine her reaction if she ever gets to visit Sea World!

We spent the rest of the day sucking down drinks at the beach.

Funny thing. Once when I went to the bathroom, I came back to find her looking at the photos on my camera. She accused me of being with putas.

Imagine that!

I admitted that is the very reason I came to Colombia. She threw a tantrum, screaming and crying and telling me that I was just like the Colombian men. Then she stormed out of the apartment, vowing never to see me again.

Fifteen minutes later, there was a knock at the door. She wanted back inside. It was never mentioned again.

That was two years ago, and she still emails and even calls sometimes...

DB

Ticasonar

12-25-06, 07:16

I took a cute Bogotona to the Rosario Islands and had a great time - so did she. Being an landlubber, she was pretty excited about being on the 'Miami Vice' fast-boat to the islands - she was thrilled, but when the boat took some serious air, the look on her face was priceless.

So I agree, find a chica who has not 'been there and done that'.

BTW, speaking of fast-boats, if you or your chica happen to have back problems, you may want to consider the larger, slow boat to the islands if the seas are choppy that day. When the boat take air, they come down in the water like hitting cement, and it can be pretty nasty on one's lower back.I'm sure she worked all of Gonzo's kinks out :-)

El Austriaco

12-25-06, 21:55

I agree this is a great excursion to take with a non-pro. Back in 2005, I took a regular girl from Sucre there, and we had a great time. Price was COP 50,000, if I remember correctly, plus a COP 9000 or so National Park entrance fee (since Islas del Rosario is a Natural Coral sanctuary). The total price includes a free lunch on one of the islands. Entrance to the aquarium was extra, COP 12,000 or so, I think. Definitely worth it: especially the shark-feeding show was eery. Of course, nothing to rival Marine World, but pretty nice, anyway, with giant sea turtles, sting rays, dolphins, of course, and all types of tropical fish. Overall, at a cost of roughly USD 35.00, an inexpensive way to spend a day away from Cartagena. The views of Cartagena from the water are very nice, too.

EA

Neh Hoe

12-26-06, 18:27

Are you referring to this girl ?Yes. that is her people. Do change you think these girls love selling their body to fat tourist? She has told me of a number of guys who have wanted to bankroll her as you put it and she has turned them down.

Sylvester

12-27-06, 17:42

Yes. that is her people. Do change you think these girls love selling their body to fat tourist? She has told me of a number of guys who have wanted to bankroll her as you put it and she has turned them down.

A puta turn down western union payments ? Bullshit ! These girls are addicted to the easy money. Think about it, she gets payment without having to spead her legs ? Its all about money to them. That is why they continue to work even when they have a gringo sucker sending money from abroad. They want more money.

You cannot domesticate a pro.

Rufus

12-27-06, 20:24

A puta turn down western union payments ? Bullshit ! These girls are addicted to the easy money. Think about it, she gets payment without having to spead her legs ? Its all about money to them. That is why they continue to work even when they have a gringo sucker sending money from abroad. They want more money.

You cannot domesticate a pro.

Sylvester, leave the poor boy alone he's in love with that puta and she's in love with money. Its a match made in Colombia LDV... lol.

I think he is already sending money IMO.

Gonzo

12-27-06, 23:07

I'm sure she worked all of Gonzo's kinks out :-)Why... yes she did!!! And then some... ;^)

Here are a few pix from the aquarium. The dolphin finished his moonwalk dance right in front of me, with a humongous bellyflop, which soaked me (but that's ok, it's freakin' hot there). So camera bearers, beware of those nefarious dolphins. Unfortunately, I can't show a pic of my chica, she made me promise, no internet fotos.

Sylvester

12-28-06, 06:36

Sylvester, leave the poor boy alone he's in love with that puta and she's in love with money. Its a match made in Colombia LDV... lol.

I think he is already sending money IMO.

Trying to spare a monger a lot of heart ache and money waste. Oh well, he will learn the hard way.

Rufus

12-28-06, 10:30

Trying to spare a monger a lot of heart ache and money waste. Oh well, he will learn the hard way.

I know buddy but we both know he's a lost cause. Just got to sit back now and watch the on coming train wreck and I thought Colombia got rid of its rail network... :(

Treeshark

12-28-06, 14:10

Neh Hoe

12-28-06, 23:43

A puta turn down western union payments ? Bullshit ! These girls are addicted to the easy money. Think about it, she gets payment without having to spead her legs ? Its all about money to them. That is why they continue to work even when they have a gringo sucker sending money from abroad. They want more money.

You cannot domesticate a pro.That is a interesting thought in a world full of possiblities. Exprience has shown me there are no absolutes.

Neh Hoe

12-28-06, 23:49

Am I the only person who thinks Neh Hoe is a fake?

I mean just say the name.

Something just does not feel right here. Perhaps Neh Hoe is a troll.

Nor do I think the Jeffs (997,998,999) were real either. Something seemed wrong there too.

Perhaps I have just become too jaded in life.

By the way those were great photos of the aquarium Gonzo. Much better then the ones that I took the day that I went over there with four chicas. :-)Are you a fake? I guess you ask the question because I just joined the board. Angie is my new girl and if things work out she will be my wife. I have also made sure she does not need to work instead she will be going to school. I have seen the statements from moneygram and western union.

Jeff997

12-29-06, 00:11

I am not real? My mommy is going to be surprised to there this!

Nor do I think the Jeffs (997,998,999) were real either. Something seemed wrong there too.

Sylvester

12-29-06, 05:15

Are you a fake? I guess you ask the question because I just joined the board. Angie is my new girl and if things work out she will be my wife. I have also made sure she does not need to work instead she will be going to school. I have seen the statements from moneygram and western union.

Neh Hoe, you should change your name to PENDEJO, because that is exactly what she is calling you behind your back. Good luck on your marriage to a puta that has serviced more customers than McDonalds.

Would you marry or much less be seen in public with a well known ***** in your own country ?

Your story is beyond belief. NPAUL has already reported that some other Cabron is working on divorcing this ***** as she was collecting WU and still selling her ass in LDV. Now you are lining up to be the next HUEVON for her to take advantage of ? How pathetic, you deserve what you are going to get.

Jelly Donut

12-29-06, 14:21

Escort King

12-29-06, 17:12

chupame has always worked for me..... but I have an Aussie accent....

Rufus

12-29-06, 18:49

Jelly Donut

12-29-06, 21:25

Yep its mamar. You can say to a chica "mamar me va a bajar" that shoud work... ;)

Thanks. I'll try this with an Aussie accent and see what happens :)

Junkyard

01-01-07, 22:36

Based upon my previous trip to Cartagena, I will be spending more time with the girls from the Casas as opposed to LDV during my next trip. However, I don't want to bring a girl home that ends up having a bad attitude, etc... Will they let you "try before you buy?" For example (Dollar amounts are made up):

House fee costs $30 for short term at a Casa
House fee costs $65 for TLN

Can I get a chica short term, then pay $35 (65 - 30) if I want to keep her for the night? Or do I need to pay the house $65 and the original $30 for a total of $95?

Anyone tried this or something similar?

Escort King

01-04-07, 23:38

Tom 33

01-11-07, 17:04

Supposed

01-30-07, 04:13

MJG Dogs

01-30-07, 07:41

Probably the Hilton will have it on, also the casino next to LDV has a big screen so try those 2 places. I watched the USA defeat the cheap shot Italians in hoops in there last August

Tom 33

01-30-07, 14:09

Hello Gentlemen,

Is there a nice bar to watch the Superbowl. What would be ideal in my book is an open air bar with large screen TV. If anyone is aware, please let me know. FYI., this is my first trip to Cartagena.

Thanks to all for the fine information in the forum, intend to check out as many mongering sites as possible.Try the Loco Gringo in Laguito. They have several large-screen LCDs and US satellite. So you will hear the broadcast in English. They didn't have any TVs outside last year. I was more interested in sitting outside and watching the chica parade.

Black Page

01-30-07, 15:36

Supposed

01-31-07, 00:57

Ahem,

I sincerely wish you forget about Superbowl, once in Cartagena!

Enjoy your time.Ha, ha. Yes, I most certainly intend on taking part in the mongering scene. A nice bar with the Superbowl on, a fine senorita by my side and a drink in my hand is how I hope to spend time during Superbowl game.

Dos Lunas

01-31-07, 08:02

Can anyone describe the beach and environment in Cartegena. Is it similar to the beaches in Cancun? Also are there many nightclubs there with non-pros?

Appreciate the info.

Tom 33

01-31-07, 13:42

Ha, ha. Yes, I most certainly intend on taking part in the mongering scene. A nice bar with the Superbowl on, a fine senorita by my side and a drink in my hand is how I hope to spend time during Superbowl game.
You could probably watch it in your apartment/hotel with Spanish-speaking announcers and her lips wrapped around your dick.

Aussie Greg

01-31-07, 15:29

Its live at the Mansion here in Medellin, but you got to be a guest.

I´m rooting for Chicago, got to because Medellin Bob's from there.

Aussie G.

Ha, ha. Yes, I most certainly intend on taking part in the mongering scene. A nice bar with the Superbowl on, a fine senorita by my side and a drink in my hand is how I hope to spend time during Superbowl game.

Tom 33

01-31-07, 21:23

Can anyone describe the beach and environment in Cartegena. Is it similar to the beaches in Cancun? Also are there many nightclubs there with non-pros?

Appreciate the info.The beach sucks and so do the chicas. But sucking chicas is a good thing. The historical old city blows away anything in Cancun. The vast majority of tourists in CTG are other Colombians on vacation looking for love and night action. There are a lot of non-pro clubs.

Aussie Greg

02-01-07, 01:29

I wouldnt let my dog "Paisa" swim in the water of Cartagena!

Have a look out the window as you land at the airport.

The islands are nice though and also the old city, its worth 2-4 days, once is enough.

Nothing comes close to Medellin in Colombia.

Aussie G.

Supposed

02-01-07, 02:44

You could probably watch it in your apartment/hotel with Spanish-speaking announcers and her lips wrapped around your dick.See, this is what I call help from board members. Even though I am not enamoured with the Spanish-speaking announcers part, will endeavor to bring the latter part of the suggestion to fruition while watching the game.

If the above cannot be accomplished, are any expat Americans getting together at any particular bar?

Gonzo

02-02-07, 21:27

At the last minute, a crisis at work forced me to cancel my plans to come to Cartagena next week (read: sh*tf*ck!!!). Since it is so late, I can't back out on my commitment to the apartment, one of Juan Ventura's, but if you know anyone who is looking for a place to stay next week - it is for 6 nights, from Mon 2/5 to Sun 2/11 - please let me know, PM me..

Aybolit

02-04-07, 02:34

My buddy and I are arriving to Cartagena on March 1, planning on staying between 1 and 2 weeks. I'm trying to book a hotel right now, but was hoping to get some feedback from you guys. We don't want to spend more than US$50, double room at a safe hotel that is not far from action (pros and non-pros) Hotel has to be girl friendly. There seems to be tons of hotels available, but I've never been to CTG before, and don't want to end up staying in a part of town that is real shady at night and make a mistake of booking a place where the girls will get turned down at the reception.

Thanks in advance

Aybolit

02-04-07, 15:36

Is it girl friendly? A good location?

Aybolit

02-04-07, 15:38

Where to stay for the first couple of days in CTG?

Thanx

Black Page

02-06-07, 10:10

Dear all,

may I ask the expert people what is the high season in Cartagena?
I would like to go back, but before even starting to plan a trip, I'd like to know what are the best and worst periods to visit.

I guess the best period is the lowest season, because there are less tourists and more girls around, "hunting" for men, while in the high season there is fierce competition and all prices are higher.

Conversely, maybe the low season is low, because it is the hurricane season (if hurricanes ever happen there). In such a case, maybe it is better to avoid to plan a visit. :-)

Any expert people of Cartagena may advise, about the best and worst months to visit?

I've been there in early Dec. It was great. Few tourists around.

Thanks all.
Best regards.

Hunter

02-06-07, 15:52

Mid December to Mid Jan is very high season.

Around the second week of November, Miss Colombia is a high season.

Easter week is also a high season.

Thats about it, some people claim July and August is also a high season, this is only true with regards to airline flights from Europe, as there are a lot of students filling the planes up and heading to South America in general, which pushes up the price of airline tickets, but doesn't affect the prices on the ground in Ctg.

Hunter

Escort King

02-06-07, 16:07

Mule69

02-06-07, 17:54

Where to stay for the first couple of days in CTG?

ThanxMost of us mongers stay in Laguito.It is very safe and you can walk to beach,restaurants,stores etc. Like Tom33 told me "Its user friendly"

Tom 33

02-06-07, 18:55

What months are low season?
Whenever it's not high season, it's low season.

Schools are out in Colombia from about June 20 to July 20. That is also high season in CTG.

Hunter

02-06-07, 20:23

Schools are out in Colombia from about June 20 to July 20. That is also high season in CTG.There are more people there, but nothing that pushs up the prices in anyway I have ever seen, do I don't class it as a high season.

Hunter

Jelly Donut

02-06-07, 21:00

If you are interested in combining wind sports with mongering Cartagena is probably the best spot in the Caribbean from January through March. The water is dirty and most of the beaches are unattractive. So, outside of the Christmas and Easter high seasons, there's a lot of open water and beach space. The wind almost always comes up strong in the afternoon in Cartagena in January, February and March. It's less predicatable in December and April; other times of the year it's not worth the trip.

It's true there are a lot of other places where you can wind surf or kiteboard during the day and find a girl at night in the Caribbean, but your options are much greater in Cartagena than in other spots. The wind is stronger along the coast of Venezuela, but unlike the Colombian coast, where many of the best venues have forgiving side-shore conditions, the wind for many of the best Venezuelan spots is off-shore. At night your options are limited. Porlamar and Willemstad are much smaller cities and have fewer options for girls; It's much more problematic in terms of time, money and logistics to be on the water on Isla Margarita in the afternoon and clubbing in Porlamar in the night. In my experience, the odds of having a really poor P4P experience in Porlamar are much higher than in Cartagena. In different degrees, this is true of all the smaller Caribbean islands.

The bigger islands aren't much better. Havana might compare in terms of size to Cartagena. I do not know Cuba, but I know the wind is less predicatable than in Cartagena. From what I read, my sense is things are more complicated in Cuba. All the more so if you are American.

Likewise, you can go to the Dominican Republic, but the wind is significantly less dependable in Caberete than along the north coast of South America. You'll have options for girls and it's easier to get by without Spanish, but nearby Sosua doesn't offer the variety and quality of girls you can find in Cartagena. In terms of wind, it's not impossible to get skunked out for a week in Caberete. Often, when the wind comes up, you are sharing space with hundreds of other people.

I could keep going along the Spanish Main, Panama City is too far from Punta Chame. Adicora is too far from everything. Cancun; less wind, less opportunites.

As for the Colombian coast, the wind and venues outside of Barranquilla may be slightly better than what you'll find in Cartagena, but getting to the beach is much more involved in Barranquilla than in Cartagena. Peurto Velero is a great spot, but getting there and coming back to Barranquilla at night is going to take time, money and maybe some chance. And Barranquilla isn't as strong a mongering spot as Cartagena. Santa Marta has powerful erratic winds, everything is screwed up there because of the mountains and it's considered even less of a mongering destination than Barranquilla.

I recommend a tour of the Bocas de Ceniza, before dropping into the water at any point between Peurto Colombia and the Magdalena. Got to think twice about what is draining out of that river. Likewise, the length of beach between Cienaga and KM11 looks fantastic, but as an obvious gringo travelling alone I wouldn't linger in Cienaga.

East of the Sierra Nevada mountains the wind gets better and more dependable, the water looks nicer and all that. You can generally count on the wind in December, but finding girls at night is way more difficult. No one is going to La Guajira for the mongering. In my opinion, you are probably safer in most of the spots east of Rio Buritaca, as long as you know some of the locals, than you are at Cienga or Peurto Colombia. The value of isolation and the wind play in your favor for having a good time on the water, but at night you're going to be counting stars.

So, it depends on how you want to spend your time. If you are interested in being active during the day, enjoy sports that involve the wind and water, want a lot of options at night and you speak a little Spanish, Cartagena is worth looking into.

Overall point. For many people, the comparision between Cartagena and Medellin is not the right comparision to make. Cartagena is a Caribbean city. If you want girls from Medellin, the best place to find them is Medellin. It may be the best spot if you are only interested in chasing paisas and looking for good value, although I imagine that is a debatable point. If you want a place by the sea, with girls from all over Colombia and some from Venezuela, Cartagena strikes a great balance.

Mojok

02-08-07, 03:27

Jelly,

I noticed your report and wanted to see if you found a place to rent windsurfing equipment and kites in Cartagena. I was in Isla Margarita last fall, great sailing but like you mentioned, sparse professional entertainment in the evening. I did find a salsa club or two that had bangin' latinas out dancing. I hate the idea of draggin my sailing shit all over the place, so any rental advice you have is great.

Grand Pollo

02-08-07, 03:42

What's the Spanish word for blowjob? How do you ask for one?

I was walking on a beach around La Boquilla earlier this year and a girl offered me one, but I forgot the word she used. Is it "mamar"? I've been using forms of "chuparse" in order to make my way in the world.

Chupar is far more common, you do not say chuparme since chupar is the infinitive (e.g. to suck and you don't want to say "to suck me") but the imperative - the direct request is "chupame".

If you were to use mamar, vs. the oddly worded other post, mamar me va a bajar, which literally says "to suck me you will go down", more like a camera manual than a request and you will sound like a bonehead, surely. Instead of your bone getting head.

Better to express a desire, viz, Quiero que me chupes. (I want you to suck me - OK a little coarse), or Quiero que me des una mamada. (I want you to give me a BJ) (Mamada is a nick name for a BJ). When you express a request or wish you use the subjunctive, e.g. chupes (vs. chupas) or des vs. das.

If you do use the imperative (which is a fancy name for an order), at least with chupame, add por favor, which is a common way to turn an order into a specific request.

In bed if she is sitting there wondering what to do next try something like , OK, ahora, me gustaria si puedes chuparme, OK. E.g. now, it would please me if you could suck me, OK? Which is saying , now I'd like a BJ, OK.

Learn Spanish people. Present, simple future, one past tense (use the more simple to remember imprefect past tense if you want) and subjunctive. 20-30 verbs and a few pronouns and you can sound like you know more than average.

Or go fancy - Cariño, pongas tus labios dulces alrededor de mi penga y chuparlo como si sea el penga pasado en el mundo.

Honey put your sweet lips around my cock and suck it like it is the last cock on earth.

Good for a laugh, and ideally a good BJ.

Adverb help:

despacio - slow down
lento - slow
mas profundo - deeper
menos ( or no) dientas, por favor -less/no teeth please
Use (usay) la lengua por favor - use your tongue please
Lamelo un poco - lick it a bit
Lame mis huevos - lick my balls
No te pare or No te detengas - Don't stop.

Te gusta si termino (or vengo) en tu boca - Do you like it if I finish (or come) in your mouth? (Places vary - terminar to finish in some places, and venir, to come in others - terminar is likely to work all the time, venir not always).

Jelly Donut

02-08-07, 17:57

Grand Pollo - Thanks, that's the best educational moment I've had recently.

Mojok - There is a place to rent in Laguito and two places on the Playa de las Americas (This is near the airport and, for kiting, is a much better spot than Laguito). For kites, I think they top out at 9m. You may want to bring a larger kite as the wind sometimes demands something in the 10-16 range in the early afternoon. Finding other gear for rent in these places should not be an issue. For most other spots, you will need to bring your own stuff. Keep in mind, you give up some of the best wind in the world and white sand beaches when you leave Margarita/Coche, but Cartagena is going to treat you much better at night.

Surfer

02-08-07, 23:39

JD wrote:

Santa Marta has powerful erratic winds, everything is screwed up there because of the mountains and it's considered even less of a mongering destination than Barranquilla.

The winds in Santa Marta are VERY seasonal. In the dry season it blows pretty good most days, although the DIRECTION can be variable. Also, keep in mind that Santa Marta proper is a PORT, not a beach town. The beaches in town are barely better than Cartagena (read: mierda). Taganga is in a big cove so not much wind (which is why so many fishing boats call that protected bay home). Rodadero is sheletered somewhat by the island offshore and the point where Cascadas is located.

Arrecifies has LOADS OF WIND but hauling windsurfing gear along that muddy track would NOT be easy and would slow you down (it takes almost an hour to reach the beach in good conditions and NOT carrying a rig).

Finally, and as I have said countless times, SM is a place to BRING A CHICA, NOT a place to find one. Yes on the weekend there are some nonpros about, although 90% of the time they are with their family and NOT likely to jump in the sack with a gringo tourist (PROVIDED your apartment would allow you to bring in a guest; most do NOT as you MUST get a plastic wristband when you check in and they will not allow you in the building without one).

TheShadow2

02-10-07, 03:23

Eres el ******!
As someone struggling daily to improve their spanish, I thank you for the detailed lesson!
Now that's my kind of spanish class :-)

Dima25

02-10-07, 17:42

Whats up guys. I'll be in Cartegena in a couple of weeks and I was wondering how safe is it to go "mongering" at night to all those clubs (LDV, Pleyboy, etc) are there certain procedures to follow, and whats a good area of town to stay at?

Belldude2

02-10-07, 22:12

Hey guys. what time does ldv open and start really going? and what time does it close? thanks guys

Hunter

02-10-07, 22:30

11.30-12 PM is the best time to get there.

Not sure what time it opens and closes though.

Hunter

Jelly Donut

02-10-07, 22:48

I think it's open around 10 and closes around 2, but sometimes seems to close later.

Showing up around 10, not much will be going on. You are safe if you show up around midnight.

The guy that owns LDV just opened up a new place in the old city. It's supposed to be nicer, open later and stay open still later. I can not remember the name (since I'm not much for the 2am to 6am scene I never stopped by) but I was talking with one of the LDV girls "Caroline" from Bucaramanga. She loves it. Anyway, it opens later and stays open till dawn. Many of the LDV girls seem to go there after 2.

Caroline is a crazy girl. She called me up at 6am one day, because she had a hard night and wanted to come over to "talk". I invited her over and, interestingly, we talked. She was sort of surprised that I was getting up after a decent night sleep.

Hey guys. what time does ldv open and start really going? and what time does it close? thanks guys

TheShadow2

02-11-07, 01:42

I think the new place is called "Electra", it's supposed to be popular with the ladies who used to go to GiroMatto for the 3-6AM action. Haven't been yet but may check it out in a few weeks when I'm there again. That is if this old man can stay up that late...

Belldude2

02-11-07, 03:35

Thanks Hunter and JD. I appreciate it. I have been to Cart 2 times and have never been there. But I have spent time at Playboy and Venus and had some great times with some sweet SWs. I will check the new place (electra?) out in one month. should be fun.

Eros74

02-12-07, 00:29

.... All the working girls have become hard-core, jaded, and high-priced. And they say that it wil continue to get worse.

However, I can still get an hour of GFE from a smoking hot chica for 60K, the same price I paid 4 years ago.

If you hate Gringos, don't come.Thanks Tom, actually I checked, in almost a week all the 106 pages of the photo gallery to see how look like Colombian girl, some are really very hot girls, and I will start to read from tomorrow at least the posts of the year 2006 in Cartagena thread to understand even better what you mean and to know the better places where to go once there, however I think I already understood what you mean.

Please allow me to ask something more.

-With 60k for a hot girl, you mean by taxi car, get from newpapers or what else?

-With "Gringo" you mean only foreign person or what exactly?

-So CTG is already spoiled or have still some to offer for the person who never been in Colombia and that wants to join ocean-beach life+girls?

-Last question...what about the non-pro scene in CTG? ( I mean if somebody stays at least 2 weeks how are the chances to get a non-pro, just a regular normal girl?-I already speak basic spanish and I keep on study...)

Muchas gracias!

PS. I am interested to know also the opinions of the others members too.

Tom 33

02-12-07, 00:47

Thanks Tom, actually I checked, in almost a week all the 106 pages of the photo gallery to see how look like Colombian girl, some are really very hot girls...and I will start to read from tomorrow at least the posts of the year 2006 in Cartagena thread to understand even better what you mean and to know the better places where to go once there, however I think I already understood what you mean...

Please allow me to ask something more...

-With 60k for a hot girl, you mean by taxi car, get from newpapers or what else?

-With "Gringo" you mean only foreign person or what exactly?

-So CTG is already spoiled or have still some to offer for the person who never been in Colombia and that wants to join ocean-beach life+girls?

-Last question...what about the non-pro scene in CTG? ( I mean if somebody stays at least 2 weeks how are the chances to get a non-pro, just a regular normal girl?-I already speak basic spanish and I keep on study...)

Muchas gracias!

p.s. I am interested to know also the opinions of the others members too.
You can find girls for 60K on the beach, on the street, in restaurants, and in stores. The ones that want to play will let you know. However, you do need to smile and say, "Hola."

By Gringo I meant person fom the US. Colombians call all foreigners, who aren't South American or Asian, Gringo.

In my opinion, CTG is neither spoiled nor ruined.

You can meet non-pros quite easily with only basic Spanish. Just don't expect a blow job on the first encounter. That can happen, but it is not likely.

Aybolit

02-12-07, 05:02

Tom 33, or anyone in CTG:

Are there any massage parlors in CTG with a HJ at the end of the session? Anything like that in the area? Not interested in a FS type of place, just a good massage with a happy ending.

I've been browsing the boards and there was a mention of a hotel dorado a while back, anyone knows if that is still an option? Just want to get the day started right :)

Thanks

Eros74

02-18-07, 22:55

....In my opinion, CTG is neither spoiled nor ruined.....

Hi Tom, thanks for answer, I am happy to read that CTG is still not ruined and even more happy when I found this:

http://www.eltiempo.com/nacion/caribe/2007-02-18/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_INTERIOR-3442851.html

I hope the assault to the couple of two italians with the death of the woman was not common thing in CTG.

I think I will go to CTG between september/october.

Cheers.

Tom 33

02-18-07, 23:52

In the tourist zone, assaults are rare. The Italians were outside of the tourist zone, but not by much. You still must remember that there is a lot of poverty in all of Colombia. The social safety net here has many holes. If you can't eat, you die.

However, Colombia realizes the jewel that it has in CTG. The tourist zone (Centro and the Bocagrande Penninsula) are well patrolled.

Ay: I know of no massage parlors in the CTG area.

Eros74

02-19-07, 20:36

Tommy please look in this map:

http://www.cartagenaapartments.com/modules/propiedades/misc.php?op=cartagenamap

So if I did the homeworks well, to rent a flat in safe zone, it is better to stay in zones 1,2 and 3,right? (that I guess are also the better places about view and beaches life, or am I wrong?).

And the center of city, the walled city is in zones 4 and 7? They are safes too?

How far they are 1,2,3 and 4,7? ( in the map it is hard to understand the distance).

Again the clubs and bars, I mean the scene where to go during the night is only in zones 4 and 7 or enough to stay in zone 1,2 and 3 where we should rent the flat?

Thanks!

Hunter

02-19-07, 21:33

What you call Zone 1 in the North of the map is a so so area (the first two 1s), you have to be aware of what is going, especially at night.

The spit of land going off to the South West is fine.

Here is a better map of the old City, if you are new to Colombia, I would just recomend staying in the Centro and San Diego part of the old City, or the Laguito Bocogrande area, most of the bars and discos are located in Centro and Getsemenia:

http://www.caribenet.com/index.php?name=Downloads&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=1

The brothals are off the map to the East.

Your other questions are to difficult to answer as there are a lot of 1s, 17s etc, which are the numbers of the roads, but the top 1 in the north, to the hook of land at the bottom in the South West, will take you approx 1.5-2 hours to walk at a brisk pace.

Hunter

Eros74

02-22-07, 21:10

Why you think zone #1 is "so and so" area?

Thanks!

Hunter

02-22-07, 22:23

Just the first two 1s on the map, at night the area is not that safe and you have to be very carefull (mugging wise), it has been that way since I have been going to Ctg, I have friends who have lived and still live in that area, they tell me its still the same.

So if you stay in that area, I recomend not walking around the streets there at night.

Hunter

Eros74

02-23-07, 20:39

Hunter sorry but I am surely the only one who do not understand: you mean in my map or in yours?

I think you meant mine, right? So the area inside zone 1 and 2, right?

Re-thanks!

Hunter

02-23-07, 21:44

If I am talking about your map, I would suggest looking at your map again, the 1s are running from North to South, there are 6 of them, hence why I only said the first two in the North.

Aybolit

02-26-07, 03:44

MJG Dogs

02-26-07, 08:33

Probably does not have hot water, If it is the place I think it is, it is kind of dumpy, but for $ 19, what do you expect?

Escort King

02-26-07, 20:44

Probably does not have hot water, If it is the place I think it is, it is kind of dumpy, but for $ 19, what do you expect?

For $19 in a third world country I expect the penthouse....

Surfer

02-26-07, 21:20

$19 does NOT buy decent lodging in ANY area of Colombia frequented by gringos. You DO get what you pay for, so don't expect much.

The Penthouse I used to stay in near Santa Marta area cost $50 and STILL NO HOT WATER. On the coast, hot water is something of a luxury.

Dan D Dick

02-26-07, 22:08

According to http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/third_world_countries.htm Colombia and, in fact, all of Latin America are identified as Third World Countries. Perhaps that's why I always have such a good time there...

/Dan D.

Surfer

02-26-07, 23:20

In the modern era, most people use the term "Third World" to describe nations that are poor and undeveloped (as opposed to those not aligned with either the US or the former USSR; the better term for those nations is "non aligned" ). That map acknowledges as much if you read the commentary.

Without completely dissecting that map, let me mention just a few examples: Greenland is part of Denmark and has a standard of living higher than the US, yet it is listed as Third World.

SE Asia: Thailand is quite affluent and developed but is listed as Third World while former Soviet Republics that are mired in poverty are listed as Second (Yellow).

As for South America, Argentina, Uruguay and Chile are quite affluent and developed and HARDLY qualify as Third World.

Setting that map aside, those that have traveled extensively in Latin America will tell you, neither Colombia nor Venezuela nor Chile, nor Argentina nor Uruguay nor Brasil are NOT Third World.

Many parts of the US are so backward they they should qualify as Third World, but on a country by country breakdown we are still considered First World.

So if the poster meant he would expect a nice place for $19 because Colombia was in the non aligned movement then you (and your map) would be correct. Since I believe he meant "third world" as in "poor and undeveloped", I disagree that Colombia fits that rubric.

Escort King

02-27-07, 00:13

Actually I was making a joke ala Eurotrip - I movie I recommend highly to international travellers... hits all the stereotypes of European travel in very humorous manner... someone should do latin american trip....

MJG Dogs

02-27-07, 03:54

Well after reviewing the post from my esteemed advisary ( at times), I have to agree with most of what he is saying. He is absolutely correct in his assertions about Colombia, Argentina, Urugray and Chile, especially the latter two countries not being "third world", and yes go to parts of KY, W VA, TN, MS, AL and LA, and you will see areas that you could classify as " third world".

He is wrong though about Venezuela, almost 30% live below the poverty line, a marked increase since Comandante Chavez was " re-elected", and the middle and upper classes are trying to flee fast...

Rueters also reported two weeks ago that One in Six Europeans live in poverty also. This is from the Continent that knows everything, and feels it is the craddle of civilization, but even I was surprised to see the article in Rueters.

Surfer's was correct in his analysis about latin america and the USA.

Beavis

02-27-07, 04:06

By the time our buddy in the white house is done we might all be third world countries. I have indeed been to some countries that are sub-3rd world. Like Louisiana for example.

Kit Karson

02-27-07, 04:53

I am making reservations at this hotel:Hotel Bonavento Del Mar in Cartagena.

The rate is 19 bucks a night, with AC, cable TV and its in Bocagrande near to the San Martin's Avenue and the beach according to the website. Anyone has any info on this place? Is it safe?

I'm gonna be there real soon, so I'd appreciate any advie

ThanxI have never stayed there but I know the hotel . It is a very small hotel but in a good location with lots of restaurants and close to the beach . It is probably a 10 minute walk to the beach.

The reason for the low price is off season , go back during school break or Easter and the price will be $50 a night. More important it is girl friendly although they will charge you 10,000 pesos for the extra person.

Hot water in a city that is 90 degrees everyday is wasted. The hot water tank sits on the roof and the cold water heats up during the day in the sun and you have hot water for a shower the next morning.

It is a very safe area I have been visiting Cartagena for 20 years and using the humble principle have never had any problems.

Have a great time

MJG Dogs

02-27-07, 06:20

You being kind to call parts of Louisiana " third world" Beavis, there is no state remotely close to Louisiana, it truly is a different place.

Beavis

02-27-07, 16:39

Well if that won't qualify as third world I truely have been to some, Nigeria, Cameroon, Ivory Coast, Gabon, Congo, Angola, now there are some third world countries.

Scooby1

02-27-07, 17:41

I lived in Louisana for 4 yrs in Plaquermines Parish in a little town called Buras, Louisiana working on the oil rigs out Of Venice, Louisiana. I think the place got wiped off the map by Katrina. Venice is the second southern most town on the Mississippi of which Orchard is the first. I never saw anything that looked like some of the third world countries I have been in.

Beavis

02-27-07, 22:08

I know that area very well. Please explain what makes that part of the country anything but third world?

Scooby1

03-03-07, 16:26

http://www.puertovelerocartagena.com/index-eng.htm

Belldude2

03-05-07, 17:00

Hey there, can anyone tell me if the massage places in the Cartagena list are worth going to?
are they just massage, or massage with hj/bj or full service?
I see them listed, but noone really says anything about them.
thanks guys

Beavis

03-06-07, 01:32

It has been a while since I have been to CTG and need to answer a question to an associate. Which ATM's will allow you to withdraw $400,000 pesos?

Gonzo

03-06-07, 02:26

I withdrew 400 bills from the ATM in the Hilton Hotel in Laguito. Safer than a usual ATM also, since no one knows why you're coming in and out of the hotel, as opposed to an ATM...

Tom 33

03-06-07, 02:40

It has been a while since I have been to CTG and need to answer a question to an associate. Which ATM's will allow you to withdraw $400,000 pesos?
Bancolombia, now merged with Conavi, allows 400K as does Servibanca, maybe BBVA and a couple of others. Davivienda allows 500K.

Beavis

03-06-07, 03:47

Thanks Tom, hope your doing well.

MJG Dogs

03-06-07, 03:58

Beavis;

There is on ATM in Bocagrande that will allow you to withdraw 500,000 at a time, it is about 100 meters down from the supermarket and near the Italian restraunt with the hotel run by the Italians. The ATM booth is by the coldest place in Cartagena period....

Beavis

03-06-07, 06:19

Thanks, I am just trying to find out for a friend who goes there. His bank charges him $7.50 for international withdrawals. I used to get $400,000 from the one inside of Olympica in Boca Grande. I followed this chick inside of there one day but at the time my digital camera was one of those that took about 10 seconds to warm up and by the time it was ready she was inside of the market.

Beavis

03-06-07, 20:56

That was during the Coronacion de la reina in 2003. They were everywhere.

Tom 33

03-06-07, 22:11

VatosLocos

03-15-07, 03:00

hello people,

5 days cartagena, who said it is not good for mongering? it's great for mongering, just not for cheap mongering!

at night all the danceclubs are meeting points for paid sex. quality differs per disco, best one is off course the many times mentioned ldv (la dolce vita) next to the casino. great choice nice athmosphere and you can just dance and relax. but fuck these women do know their prices, not many willing to bargain. too many tourists eager to pay 100 bucks for 2 hours.

still did have a great time dancing with a working girl in ldv that was totally crazy. after i told her i was not gonna pay 100 bucks she even took me back with here to her appartment to drink some rum and listen to music whil she even did some vibratorshow. unfortunately she did not want sex without me paying, and as i had fucked in afternoon i was quite at ease with whatever she was willing to show me for free. ended up sleeping there, and that was a adventure on its own.

found a nice streetgirl for 50k (plus 5k taxi) on street just across tu candela disco. sex was ok. hang around there for cheap streetgirls, always something going on there. or hang around at the beaches but i found those girls a tad to raunchy.

and just when i was not expecting, i found this great 18 year old daughter of a woman selling jewelry on the streets. as i was buying jewelry from her mum she just hit on me, asking me if all men from my country were so "hermoso" (gorgeous) off course i was not going to let this go, so i chatted with her and invited her to go dancing later that night. she agreed to do so after work, i said no problem and waited for her. she admitted to have a novio but was not happy with him (whatever.)

we ended up dancing at a club and she seemed to be quite a dancer, shakira moves left and right, men staring at her and i could not even go to toilet without the fear that all these men would hit on her;.)

took her to my hotel at 4 oclock and after some passionate kissing and hesitating on her side about not wanting to have sex so soon, we finally hit it off. and i mean we hit it off

this 18 year old girl rocked my 36 year old world that night till the morning. she had no boundries and was wild and hot as hell. man this was the peek moment of my colombian trip. after the sex she used my massage oil to massage my whole body, not forgetting any cm2.

the next 2 last days of my visit she stayed with me and i took her to isla rosario (overrated but perfect for spending time with a nice novia) nice dinners and great, wonderfull and wild sex (even some underwater blowjob at rosario. you gotta luv her! ). she even came to drop me at airport with her mum? ! called me just an hour ago to ask my email adres again.

so all in all cartagena beautifull historic city, nice but expensive mongering, overpriced drinks at cafes, and like anywhere in colombia anything nice can happen anytime and anywhere.

yo quero colombia

editor's note:i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide. info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php? ) for more information.

Tom 33

03-15-07, 14:28

CTG is the most expensive city in Colombia by far. However, when compared to other Caribbean locations, it ain't bad.

JacobGlobo

03-16-07, 19:05

Tom 33

03-17-07, 01:44

I ran into a guy from Switzerland this morning who has lived in Cartagena for 16 years. He said that there were many more tourists from the US and countries other than Colombia 16 years ago than there are today.

If the Gringos (read extranjeros) didn't ruin CTG 16 years ago, they probably aren't responsible for its oft mentioned demise today.

Better than 80% of the tourist dollar spent in CTG is Colombian. Gringos simply do not matter in CTG and matter less in other parts of the country.

Even though I will now be spending the majority of my time in Medellin, I will continue to spend a couple of months per year in CTG. It is a nice change of pace. It is not as cheap as it used to be. But where in the world is it?

Latina Passion

03-17-07, 14:04

Better than 80% of the tourist dollar spent in CTG is Colombian. Gringos simply do not matter in CTG and matter less in other parts of the country.

Anyone paying $100 U.S. per night to a chica, in a country where a good income is $500 per month is insane, IMHO! If your game is weak you would be a lot better off investing that same money on Spanish lessons!

I have been traveling to Colombia now for three years and the most I ever paid as a Newbie was $200,000, and since then I never ever pay over $100,000 for all night! Last summer I pulled from LDV a black Chica and a White Chica for 100,000 per Chica for a few hours of fun in the sun! An unfair advantage here, but last year Tom33 hooked me up with a smoking hot hard body black Chica for 40 or 50k the first time then the following month I paid her about half of that.

Again a damn GOOD salary for any part of Colombia is $500 per month, a friend of mind is the Treasurer of the second largest phone company in Colombia and he might make $3000 U.S. per month!

The Prince of BAQ only charges $7 per hour, as a tour guide, that should give you an idea of what to pay a Chica!

Hey Tom33 remember that smoking blonde Venezuelan that Tim had last year at that sorry BBQ of mine, I think he got her from Pleyboy or some club like that, but his cost was like $225K for all night but that also included a bar fine! You have to admit she was HOT!

I'm 44 and have been to Colombia 15 times in the last three years, and upon every single one of my visits, I have been hit on by a chica half my age.

Cubanut

03-17-07, 18:25

I don't ageary that Cartagena is more expensive than Medellin I was in Cartagena 1 week I take 5 diffrent girls from ldv and I pay 100000 for 1 hour, in meedelin you pay olerady for agely girl in San Diego show 120000, go to discos like mangos universal cost 15000 to 20000, the drink in Medellin more expensive in discos, you can find nice studio in good bulding in lugito for 70000 pessoa in meddelin 50 to 60 dolares a night. If some americans pay to the girls in ldv 300000 it dosent mean that Cartagena is expensive. You can take out side ldv girls for 30000 to 50000 pessos the some girls like san diego show. Meddelin was cheap until last year, now is the some prices like Cartagena even more expensive.If we talk about more bang for your buck then where you monger makes a big difference. In Cartagena some girls are asking $200,000 ST (short time) whereas guys readily pay $162,000 at Loutrons for a straight hour.

In Cartagena Pleyboy's is now $290,00 for toda la noche including the bar fine and usually the girl will stay with you til the afternoon instead of 7 or 8 am like many Medelin girls do.

In Cartagena the Mansion girls want $150,000 and up for ST although many are not rushing to leave so ST can be one to a few hours. Where as some girls at LDV will still do toda la noche for $150,000.

In Cartagena you can meet the girls at Pleyboy or Casa del Marina or other casas and negotiate daytime dates for less because there is no bar fine. The same can be said for places in Medellin like San Diego Club but not FASE II (those girls think their pussy is gold).

Medellin lacks the beach girl cheaper sex hunt but then again Cartagena lacks the MANY cheap P4P casas (starting at $30,000 and up) that Medellin has like New Life, Aiffe, Geisha's Sexi's, Belle Suite and etc... with as well as the mid price casas ($50,000 to 70,000) like Cassandra's, Miel y Cannela Abydos, Blue Room and Energy.

Medellin lacks a disco like LDV in Cartagena where you walk in and know all the girls are P4P available without having to pay a bar fine and MANY TIMES you get a real gem.

Cartagena lacks a location like the rock bottom priced P4P Mayorista in Medellin where prices start as low as $15,000 to $20,000 and SOMETIMES you get a real gem.

In ALL places in both cities and in ALL price ranges you will find girls that will give shitty, poor, good, very good, great, excellent, mechanical or GFE type service for the money.

So it really is still all subjective and I barely even scratched the surface.

Again this applies to P4P only, non-pros are a different matter.

Cheers,

Cubanut

Ricker

03-17-07, 19:18

Hey Cubanut ... very well put :)

Hunter

03-17-07, 22:59

[QUOTE=Tom 33]I ran into a guy from Switzerland this morning who has lived in Cartagena for 16 years. He said that there were many more tourists from the US and countries other than Colombia 16 years ago than there are today.

If the Gringos (read extranjeros) didn't ruin CTG 16 years ago, they probably aren't responsible for its oft mentioned demise today.QUOTE]I agree, some people went there to Ctg at its low point around 2000-2002 and for some reason they seem to think that Ctg was like that before, just because there are a few more foreigners there now than the above time period, doesn't mean diddly squat.

Ctg is STILL nothing compared with what it was like up to 1994, but they can seem to grasp that Ctg existed as a tourist area for decades before they went there.

Hunter

Hunter

03-17-07, 23:03

Medellin is a lot cheaper than Ctg, you can live for half the cost in Medellin than Ctg, wether girls, apts, food, drinks etc., of comparable quality in each City, virtualy everything. The only one that comes to mind where Ctg is not more expensinve than Medellin is sea food, I can't think of anything else.

Hunter

Hunter

03-17-07, 23:13

There are at least a couple of places right out of Ctg where the prices are the same as Mayorista, although there was only a few girls there that were worth banging when I went there in 2002 & 2003. There is strip with half a dozen bars and strip club, I don't remember the name of the area or the name of the bars, although I could find them again.

My friend told me late last year that the prices haven't changed a lot and the places are still there, but I don't think they are very safe neighbourhoods, for comparison I think Mayorista is very safe area compared with them, so I don't recomend them on the boards.

While I have been recomending Mayorista since 2002, along as you don't wander away from the main drag.

Hunter

LocoGringo

03-17-07, 23:46

How much are crack ***** in Riviera Beach these days? Depending on where you go and what you know and what they know the price varies from "free" to 500.000 pesos in Colombia. The most expensive is usually the "free" pussy, they stay too long. I still get some of the 60-80,000 peso pussy in cartagena but that is usually beach of street girls. The most missed jewel in Cartagena, IMHO, chicas from close by that do not go to La Dolce, etc., that are the occasional pay for play, especially if you get them early in their career. While it is true that most Colombiana's make minimum wages, just over $200 a month, they are not getting sperm baths from gringoes, after a while most of the girls start to lose their fun attitude. Anyway, going back in 3 more days to move, hope to hit Buca for a few days.

JacobGlobo

03-18-07, 17:14

Hunter.

I don't agree with you, I was in Medellin more than 100 dayes last year and this year, I know all the places in medelin, it is more expensive in Medellin, to go inside disco satrday you pay 20000 only go in in Cartagena mr babila 10000 very good place the drinks in medelline good discos are0 procent more expensive than Cartagena, place like ldv and electra the some owner os free to go inside no bar fine take girls drinks cheaper than meddelin, place like passe 2 bar fine, go to isis night club in Cartagena I take very nice girl some lavel than passe 2 for 100000 all night, I eat in povlado pizza and chainisg food 30 procent more expensive than Cartagena, in lagito in low seasen you rent nice app for 1200000 pessos arond 500 dollares plus, and meddelin in povlado how much you pay, small exmple 1 kilo lundry in every lindray in lugito 3000 pessos in Cartagena I check in povlado 80oo 1 kilo, in cener 6000 pessos a kilo, I go out with italian peoles every night in Cartagena they take nice girls from ldv 2 houres 100000 pessos, the some girls when I go out with my americans frindes ask 250000 pessos, mayby next time if you write that ctg is expensive for americans tourists it is diffrent, belive me I know what I write, last year all prices in meddelin go up, even small hotel in la 70 you don't foind lase than 40 dolars I don't talk about povlado, I eat every day in italians resturant in ctg, cheaper than parqe lleras the some kind of food, this is my opinin, sorry for my english 2 yers ago meddelin was cheaper than Cartagena now forget it, I pay 600oo pessos for girls in san diego, now 120000 pessos 80 procent low class girls this girls out side dlv 40000 pessos, what more I can cumper to you.

Tom 33

03-18-07, 21:14

Poblado is not Medellin. Poblado is not cheap.

I just bought an apartment in Barrio Conquistadores in Medellin. It is Estrato 5. I paid well under 1 million pesos per square meter. You will pay well over 2 million per square meter in Laguito. New construction in Laguito is closer to 3 million.

Hunter, by the way, has lived in Medellin for 4 years. I have lived in Cartagena for 4 years.

Hunter

03-18-07, 21:56

I am afraid your wrong like for like nearly everything in Medellin cheaper compared with Ctg, in my opinion at least.

Parque Lleras has expensive restaurants, go to the expensive restaurants in Ctg and compare the prices, there are no expensive restaurants in Laguito compared with Parque Lleras, because Laguito is not a restaurant area.

As to apts, you can get better quality in Medellin than Ctg for a cheaper rate. Although there are fewer short term rental apts in Medellin compared with Ctg as Medellin is not a tourist City, but the industrial City of Colombia, most short term apts in Medellin are aimed at the visiting Colombian businessman, there are plenty of cheap ones available you just have to look, but in the right place.

There are far more girls on the game in Medellin, there are few tourists (Colombian or foreigner), so most of the girls go with the local guys who pay the local rates, only the well off ones pay 150,000 pesos plus and only a small percentage of the girls actually charge that.

Disco are expensive to cheap in Medellin, I go to discos that are better than any I have been to in Ctg and pay half or less for the alcohol. Most certainly there are more expensive discos in Medellin, but compared with Ctg, those discos are in a differant world.

I have spent about 1.5 years in Ctg and 4 years in Medellin.

Hunter

Latina Passion

03-18-07, 22:38

T0m33 Now that your headed to Medellin, don't you think it is about time that you shared with us your private collection!

When you get a chance give my private email address to your CTG girl, trust me I will treat them in the same fashion as you have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I might be in Medellin in July, if so I will look you up, so you can School be on to get more bang for my buck!

Peter Solano

03-18-07, 22:50

COL$200.000 IS US$100 pretty much, with the exchange rate going down the way it is. Since you habla Español, I suggest you check that in: www.eltiempo.com

T.R.M. $ 2.204,05
Casas de cambio (promedio)
Compra $ 2.140,00
Venta $ 2.195,00
Precio en la calle (promedio)
Compra $ 2.050,00
Venta $ 2.190,00

Where do you dare to compare a Colombian salary to P4P?

These are two different things.

Just try to reason with a pro about what the minimum wage in Colombia is, and what YOU think she should get.

US$500/month a good salary in Colombia?

I suggest you spend more time on Google doing some research.

Better than 80% of the tourist dollar spent in CTG is Colombian.Us Colombians use and spend PESOS, here and in Cartagena and everywhere else in the country.

Just try to offer a really hot looking girl that charges US$100/hour, COL$ 14.000 which is about US$7 to see what she says.

Leeuwen

03-18-07, 23:13

US$500/month a good salary in Colombia? Man are you insane.

I suggest you spend more time on Google doing some research before making an ass out of yourself like you always do.

Just out of curiosity i googled average+salary+colombia and got "monthly salary | Colombia Guide" http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/22857 claiming average salary is US$300.
Perhaps you could elaborate on expectations from pros and non-pros. Given one targets non-pros, US$100 may very well be a generous reward.

Latina Passion

03-18-07, 23:13

I suggest you place me on your ignore list, since I seem to really rattle your chain!

I also suggest you do what you do best! Take more pics with your Hubble Telescope, and sell the WOMEN of your country to the highest bidder. You must must be the favorite son of BAQ, what a badge of honor that must be.

I stand corrected Prince, from what I understand you do not sell the women of your country to the highest bidder, you simply Indroduce them to the highest bidder! It is what it is, now aint it? I'm simply amazed that a person such as yourself that was Educated in the States, would get so bent out of shape over a why pay more comment!

Why, Why would you get your panties in such a wad over a comment that was not directed towards you? And in no way shape or form was it a derogatory comment towards your Country or the women of your Country. unlike you I have great respect for both of the above! And unlike you I will point out whenever I can how the guys here might be able to save a buck or two!

Guys, I'm sorry but I'm sick of this $7 an hour rip off JERK!

Peter Solano

03-18-07, 23:32

I suggest you place me on your ignore list, since I seem to really rattle your chain!

I also suggest you do what you do best! Take more pics with your Hubble Telescope, and sell the WOMEN of your country to the highest bidder. You must must be the favorite son of BAQ, what a badge of honor that must be.

Guys, I'm sorry but I'm sick of this $7 an hour rip off JERK!ONCE AGAIN you idiot. it was a TIT telescope. And no I don`t sell the women here, some of them do that pretty well on their own.

You must must be the favorite son of BAQ, what a badge of honor that must be. For ONCE you are right, IT IS an honor !!!! Who knows, I might even get a CITATION from City Hall for doing such a good job in promoting my town.:)

unlike you I have great respect for both of the above! And unlike you I will point out whenever I can how the guys here might be able to save a buck or two!
And YOU, that still don`t know that our national currency is the PESO, since you have been here MANY times, when was your last time 2 weeks ago?:) are going to give advice as to how people can save a buck or two? Man, you are funny LMAO

NEVER THE LESS, I went out of my way FOR YOU, and posted a picture of a COL$50.000 bill so that you know what they look like, because you obviously have never seen one in person.

Me a RIP OFF? And a JERK? :)That YET has to be proven !!!!!!!!

While in YOUR CASE, you are a PROVEN idiot, and born LOSER !!! :) :)

Peter Solano

03-18-07, 23:35

Just out of curiosity i googled average+salary+colombia and got "monthly salary | Colombia Guide" http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/22857 claiming average salary is US$300.
Perhaps you could elaborate on expectations from pros and non-pros. Given one targets non-pros, US$100 may very well be a generous reward.
It all depends on WHERE you live, do you have to pay rent, school tuition, are you the head of the family? Utilities, transportation? US$500 is NOT going to go very far.

And yes some of these girls can make as much as US$75/hour or more, now not too many people here make that much, at least an hour anyway. Peter.

MiamiHeatLuver

03-18-07, 23:44

It all depends on WHERE you live, do you have to pay rent, school tuition, are you the head of the family? Utilities, transportation? US$500 is NOT going to go very far.

And yes some of these girls can make as much as US$75/hour or more, now not too many people here make that much, at least an hour anyway. Peter.

Its a shame when my girl makes 400k mensual at Exito,, lol

Peter Solano

03-18-07, 23:47

Its a shame when my girl makes 400k mensual at Exito,, lol
Luckily for her, she has you to buy her a used Honda for US$500 LOL. That will save her quite a bit of money in busetas.

Did she tell you, she will also need a helmet, a vest, a license and the SEGURO OBLIGATORIO ? ( mandatoy insurance) Put aside some other $300 or so. Peter

JacobGlobo

03-18-07, 23:49

MiamiHeatLuver

03-18-07, 23:52

Luckily for her, she has you to buy her a used Honda for US$500, that will save her quite a bit of money in busetas. Lol. Peter
Thats the whole point of getting her the MOTO, to try to cut some of her travel time and for putting up with my mongering ways and being a "good girl" lol BUT I am scared to death that she will get in an accident, have you seen the traffic and how they drive in Cali? I always see MOTO accidents and they are always bad!

MiamiHeatLuver

03-19-07, 00:03

Luckily for her, she has you to buy her a used Honda for US$500 LOL. That will save her quite a bit of money in busetas.

Did she tell you, she will also need a helmet, a vest, a license and the SEGURO OBLIGATORIO ? ( mandatoy insurance) Put aside some other $300 or so. Peter

The bike where gonna get has insurance for like another 8 months still, I know about the vest and helmet, but first she needs a lisence. lol

Peter Solano

03-19-07, 00:10

Thats the whole point of getting her the MOTO, to try to cut some of her travel time and for putting up with my mongering ways and being a "good girl" lol BUT I am scared to death that she will get in an accident, have you seen the traffic and how they drive in Cali? I always see MOTO accidents and they are always bad!
I have not seen it in Cali, but I have seen it here in BAQ, and believe it is not any better. I have also seen a few car accidents involving motorcycle riders. BUT most of the times it is their fault. Some never turn on their headlights even at night, ride like maniacs cutting between traffic and never obeying stop signs or traffic lights.

And another thing that make the traffic crazier is the MOTOTAXIS, those motorcycles used as taxis, since they have to pay the owner what they call the TARIFA, they ride like hell trying to make it plus what they have to make for their own.

One word of comfort for you though, most of these insane riders are men. Women seen to be more careful while ridding, and I did not say DRIVING LOL

If you want her to be safe, and save some money and time to and from work, why don`t you pay for a TRANSPORTE, those guys that do car pooling and go to her house pick her up bring her to work and back for a fixed amount a month. Peter.

James Zz

03-19-07, 00:59

Peter is good guy. He does what he says and does not rip you off. He does not lie.

$100 price seems to be a normal asking price, especually from white girls from other cities. Unless your italian, canadian or a new gringo most guys do not pay this.(This is a quote from 2 medellin real blondes). I watch guys get girls for 40 - 50k. I watch italians with 2 - 3 girls at the beach hit on other girls while the girls they are with will give you their phone number to meet them later.

I see Tony push so-so girls while he knows some real gems. I see families, college students, vacation girls looking for extranos. I watch guys get normal working girls Its all a game.

If your a guy looking for lots of cheap pros..dont come to ctg or colombia ..go to aisa and pick a number. Its much safer and you may be the lucky 1,000,000,000 customer.

Colombia is looks(not always what you think) money, language skills, timing, luck, balls.

Great seafood in CTG. Beach is brown.

Thank GOD there are enough girls to go around!

Tom 33

03-19-07, 01:08

It all depends on WHERE you live, do you have to pay rent, school tuition, are you the head of the family? Utilities, transportation? US$500 is NOT going to go very far.No one said that US$500 per month is going very far. However, the average Colombian earns far less than that.

As far as P4P, a girl can feel free to ask whatever she wants. I can choose to decline her services. I normally pay 60 to 80K for ST in Laguito. In the Botero Plaza area of MDE, I pay 30 to 50K. But, it doesn't bother me if someone wants to pay 200K. It's their money.

LP, I'll be in the US from June through Sept.

Cachorro

03-19-07, 19:37

Hello,

Tom I ageary with you that laugito cost 2 miliones a meeter, even my american friend buy 4 months ago for 1. 5 a metter but check parque lleras or povlado and you will see, mayby the housses arfe cheaper in Medellin, I respect hunter even he lives 4 years in Medellin, but I just talk to 2 americans and 2 italians guyes that lives 4 years in Cartagena and they visit meddellin and they have the some upinun than me, small exmple I go from lugito to center by taxi 4000 pessos. In Medellin after 21 oclock taxi start with 4000 pessos any shit disco in Medellin, you pay 10000 to 15000 pessos ticket with out to drink, I,ve been in 3 good places in Cartagena no cover check the bottel of rum in mangos or even other good places in meddelin like las palmas I know all this places, in Cartagena ldv and elctra that open until 6 oclock morning 30 procent cheaper the drinks, places like passe 2 and and or lsan diego show are more e4xpensive than ldv, in ldv no bar fine and belive me I take at list 4 very beutiful girls from there for 80000 to 100000 pessos for 1 or 2 houres if ther girls like you, tray to do this in passe 2 only the bar fine you pay more, this only heapend the last 6 months, I take over 60 girls in Medellin for all places maurista up to la mansion, and I realy knbow what I am talking about, I eat in parque lleras and povlado in sabanta, and for me it is not rezen to write that Medellin is more expensive or the some like Cartagena, and even I meet 23 girls from lautrun the best place in Medellin that the price is 170000, even the girl get 120000, and the are in ldv and go for 80000 to 100000 pessos I was last week 7 nights in ldv 50 girls mayby 10 man, it is eazy to get 90 procent of the girls for 100000 pessos, if you speak some spanish, sorry this is only my opinun.
It must come and go in seasons, or something. Cause I couldn't find any girl I wanted in LDV for 100k pesos, short time or not. Those LDV girls get more hard-core every year. I would offer 130k for long time and they would say it's "poco dinero". Fuck that!

On the other hand, you were getting quoted more expensive prices in San Diego but I still take girls there for 80k on-site.

LDV does not have cheaper drinks than San Diego, they are the same price (about 45k for a media of rum with a couple of Cokes).

You are incorrect about the price of the taxi in Medellin, and if you haven't found a club without cover in Medellin then you're not looking hard enough.

You need to compare apples with apples. Guys are reporting paying 290k for an all nighter out of Pleyboy in Cartagena. And the other casas in CTG will charge a gringo Loutron prices and deliver shit quality.

Peter Solano

03-19-07, 20:25

I would offer 130k for long time and they would say it's "poco dinero". Fuck that! You have hit the nail on the head. This is a TWO way deal, the girl is free to ask whatever amount she wants, up to you if you want to pay that much. And you are free to offer what you can afford to pay or what you want to spend. She, on the other hand, is also free to take your offer or to refuse it.

But to try to reason with a pro, that Colombians don`t make that much a month, that the exchange rate US$1- COL$ is going down, or that the minimum wage is COL$433.700 and she wants COL$200.000 to just let YOU get in her pants for an hour, is the STUPIDEST logic I have ever heard of.

This is a complete different ball game. Here you are negotiating HAIR nothing else.

Occasionally here, you have THESE DUDES, who like to play Mother Theresa and, love to give dumb advice as to what THEY think one should pay, or post a whole bunch of links.

That can work in Cyberspace, but NOT in the Real world. Peter.

MiamiHeatLuver

03-19-07, 20:39

Peter Solano

03-19-07, 21:12

Hey Guys, be careful i received a counterfeit 20k, 10k AND 5K note, not all on the same trip but each time I go I get at least one! usually from a cab driver. Damm these are good copies! the paper is just A LITTLE lighter and the water mark is not as clear. But thas about it, they even have the little colored specs in it.
Yes, that happens, and even with the COL$50.000 bill, so your loss will be bigger.

I have found this information from the BANCO DE LA REPUBLICA, about the characteristics of the bills, but unfortunately it is only available in Spanish.

http://www.banrep.gov.co/billetes_monedas/bm_cara.html

It would be a good idea to download and print the information for someone soon to travel here. At the bottom there is the PDF format

Buying those pocket size cash tester lamps to test bills could also be a good idea.

But they are not cheap.

http://www.innovationhouse.com/products/cash_tester.html

I have seen some pocket size ones that have a purple UV light and are battery operated, that could work. I am sure they are $20 or so. Peter.

JacobGlobo

03-19-07, 22:13

Hi,

If you comper ldv with samdiego show the price are the some, but ldv with passe 2 in passe 2 is 30 percent more expensive, I check all thev places check next time lehano oriente in Medellin is very good place cost near 200,000 pessos my american friend takegirl from there for home for 2 houres he pay 300,000 pessos, I take my self last week every night from ldv more than 6 girls I never pay more than 100000 pessos, after 3 oclock morning all this girls go to disco electra and you can take tham for 100000 very eazy, now adyes inm santiago the girls ask 100,000 to 120,000 pessos shourt time, last year mayby Medellin was not expensive but now, the prices are the some like in Cartagena, if you won't go out every night in Medellin it is expensive, if you don't think so I respect your opinun.

Dodger Bulldog

03-21-07, 02:50

Hey Guys, be careful i received a counterfeit 20k, 10k AND 5K noteI used to come across an occasional counterfeit bill when I lived in Guatemala.

I found that I never had any trouble passing them on to a chica, in the dark, who had her clothes off...

DB

Guapo 61

03-21-07, 05:36

2nd addition on Cali report. After hearing numerous good reports about DR. AMOR, one of my buds the previous day, I decided too give it a try, very glad I did. Paid the extra 10K CP for the delux room with shower, ac, and porno on the tv. Had a very beautiful young lady by the name of Diana, what a great fuck. This girls knows how to give great head and what a tight little box;) She rode me cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, sideways, and then my turn, doggy, missionary, reverse missionary and standing doggy. after the first round we layed on the bed kissing and fondling, I started playing with her pussy and made her cum several times which, made her very happy and then, on for round 2. She was a great GFE. I don't think she has ever had a guy please her to the point of orgasm after taking care of him, she had a great big smile on her face and just melted in my arms afterwards. We finished showering together and I tipped her a little extra as we left. If in Cali check out the Docs place and ask for Diana, she's got dirty blonde hair about 5'3" smokin ass and a nice set of natural tits, I thought she was one of the best looking girls in the place, said she was 23 and going to college to be a teacher. She wouldn't let me take any pics though:( Part 3 to follow.

East Sider 300

03-26-07, 20:32

Does anyone know when Holy Week starts in Colombia? Am planning a trip this Friday, March 30th. Will everything be closed? Is this a bad time to go?

Thanks for the info.

Hunter

03-26-07, 21:35

That will probably be the start of holy week (or two), the two official holidays are the 5th & 6th April.

You should be fine in Ctg, as many places will be open to cater for the extra tourists.

Hunter

Col Bog 1

03-28-07, 07:50

after my late supper, i decided to explore the environment.

i went first to pleyboy (cj del nilo, dg 21 48-04).

this place is among the most famous strip from cartagena. they had 25/30 girls most of them good looking, some with outrageous tits, most very skinny i would say an average between 8 and 9 with, maybe, 1 or 2 10.

i sat on a free table and ordered a bottle of water (5kcop) and start wondering all those beauties.

after a while, i noticed a girl that was staring at me, willing to capture my attention. as she was ok to my standards, i invited her to my table.

we then started the usual talk (with difficulties because a strip show was going on with loud music), and i asked her what was her price.

she asked me 180kcop for 30 minutes!

that sounds totally ridiculous to me and i told her that this place was the most expansive club in colombia.

i tried to bargain her 180k for 60’, but no way. she explained me that these are the rules of the club 180 for 30’ and she would pay the room.

so i asked for a tln and she told me that she wouldn’t do it but that some girls does for 350k cop.

while we were speaking, she asked for a drink and i said ok (20kcop).

after she finished her drink, as i haven’t been able to reduce her price, i decided that i would try my luck somewhere else.

outside, i asked a taxi if he would know a club with more reasonable prices.

he proposed to drive me very close from pleyboy to a casa where it would cost me half of pleyboy.

so, he drove me to the bruselas barrio, to calle benyamin herrera 24-34.

when i went in, i saw only 2 girls, not really my kind (tall) but i saw that there was some more at the end of the patio.

there i found 3 girls having fun dancing on music.

one of them caught my eye immediately. she was less that 1, 6 meter high, slim, blonde, with natural medium size breasts, and a pretty face.

she start to talk with me and when i asked for prices, she asked for:

50 for the room 100 for her. i asked for my favourites extra: bbbj => no anal => no

i remained an all minute thinking about it, it was late (11: 30pm), i liked that girl, i had my blue pill almost an hour ago, i was "hard", and she was smiling. what could i do?

so we went to her room.

this house is organised around 2 patios, the first one where they receive the "customers", the second patio where the rooms are.

here is something a little bit special, her room, was really her room. she had all her things there.

so i could see picture of her son, the family, her toy dogs, clothes, . .

she immediately jumped on me and took her bra out.

i then had a shock! her tits were all white!

she is a talc fanatic, and uses it all the time on her tits and pussy.

she explained that it help her to remain dry in the warm and humid weather of cartagena.

so we start the usual common exploration, but i realised very soon that this girl was wild!

she invited me to the shower (low warm water, no heater but ok) and we kept exploring each other.

she then gave me a deep french kiss!

it made me smile that she wouldn’t make a bbbj but we had french kisses all the times!

when we left the shower, after drying us in the same towel, and using an antiseptic mouth wash, we finally went back to the bed, and she insisted in switching the light off. i didn’t want that (i like to see their beauty) but the bathroom’s lamp was strong enough, so i let her act as she wanted.

then, things went crazy. she literally raped me!

i liked her pussy and she was very humid, and moaning all the time encouraging me deeper, stronger, . .

when i turned my body to enter into 69, she took my dick and started a good hj. as she told me, she wouldn’t make a bbbj, but she covered me quite fast and gave me a very good and very strong bj, we then started the real thing, and went in missionary, doggy, on side, on angle, cow-girl, what the hell do i remember? she was [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) me, and always asking for deeper and stronger, moaning, asking for french kisses, she wanted me to spank her (i don’t like that), she spanked me a couple of times, wanted to suck my fingers, .

then, she asked to be fucked in front of the mirror opening her legs like a porno star. .

well, i don’t know how i could stand that treatment for almost 30 minutes, but i did and consider that as an authentic exploit!

then, of course, i came very strongly, shouting for this incredible achievement and remaining totally breathless.

i asked for 1 or 2 minutes rest as i was really exhausted.

we then went for a short shower, ask for pictures => no, got dressed and i left the place to return to my hotel.

that will remain as one of the best fuck i ever had had in my life.

boys, you know her now.

i recommend her very much.

one last thing, when i arrived (1am) to my (very nice) hotel almirante estelar (5 star in bocagrande), there was a guy registering with a 10.

i asked the receptionist if they had an extra charge for visitors and he told me that no if the visitor would leave the hotel before 5am.

this hotel is at a walking distance (15’? ) from the famous ldv.

i’ll try that next time.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Jelly Donut

04-01-07, 00:01

On the street, gringos do 'quick' conversion. You want to convert 20.000 COP into dollars. As a rule, a lot of gringos cut the number in half (10000) and remove the last three zeros. 20.000 COP is about $10. This is a quick and somewhat effective way of knowing what you've got for cash.

Of course, it is not completely accurate. If you want to make it more close to the real conversion rate you drop 10 percent from the 'final' number. 20.000 is closer to $9 than $10.

The good news is this has not changed that much over the past year and a half. That is, even though the dollar has significantly devalued against the Euro, it has not moved much against the peso. 20.000 COP was worth $8.73 in late October 2005 and it's worth $9.08 today.

I had conversation with one of the La Dolca Vita girls concerning negotiations and currencies. She was saying she would rather be paid in dollars than in pesos. This stumped me since I was thinking it really does not matter what you are paid in, it's all the same in the end. If I pay you 130.000 COP or $59 I've pretty much given you the same amount of money.

But that was not her point. Her point was that people negotiate in easy numbers and if she deals in pesos, she might cut a deal with a gringo for 200.000 COP which is $90, but if she deals in dollars, it's probably $100. I believe she was a little smarter than the average girl in LDV. Sexier, too.

In any case, if you are into negotiating positionally with these girls you might be at an advantage keeping this table in mind. It may let you flip between currencies more effectively.

trescinetos mil pesos.................300.000......$136
doscienetos cincuenta mil pesos..250.000......$113
cien dolares.............................100 dollars...220.250
doscienetos mil pesos................200.000......$90
ochenta..................................80 dollars....176.000
ciento cincuenta mil pesos.........150.000.......$68
sesenta dolares........................60 dollars....132.000
cien mil pesos..........................100.000......$45
cuarenta dolares......................40 dollars....88.000
cuarenta mil pesos...................40.000........$18

I think this can help. It might be easier for many of these girls to accept a number like ochenta mil pesos ($36) instead of cuarenta dolares ($40) since, of course, 80,000 sounds so much better than 40.

MJG Dogs

04-01-07, 01:59

any truth to the rumor that this place is now closed???

Beavis

04-01-07, 02:41

Well in 2003 there was $7 USD to 20,000 COP so the dollar has taken a shit vs. the peso.

In August 2003 $2847 COP= $1USD

Last week $2172 COP = $1USD

Thus the dollar has fallen 24% in four years.
But there is a bright side, we no longer have to worry about Saddam.
Funny thing is we never needed to worry about him.

Jelly Donut

04-01-07, 04:33

That's interesting. Currencies move around. If you take the five year picture, instead of the four, the decline is about 5 percent, since the dollar jumped from around 2300 to 2900 in 2002 and has been moving generally down since then.

Just to be clear. I'm not trying to bait a political discussion in the Cartagena thread. I was just trying to be helpful with some observations concerning girls and money in Cartagena.

My main point is that the readers here might benefit from an understanding of what the values are today, along with some Spanish numbers, which I think can be useful.

Well in 2003 there was $7 USD to 20,000 COP so the dollar has taken a shit vs. the peso.

In August 2003 $2847 COP= $1USD

Last week $2172 COP = $1USD

Thus the dollar has fallen 24% in four years.
But there is a bright side, we no longer have to worry about Saddam.
Funny thing is we never needed to worry about him.

Polvo

04-01-07, 04:40

Well in 2003 there was $7 USD to 20,000 COP so the dollar has taken a shit vs. the peso....
In August 2003 $2847 COP= $1USD
Last week $2172 COP = $1USD

The rapid conversion is now: Take the "thousands" and divide by two i.e. drop the last three digits. If you want better accuracy, then subtract 10%.

So Jelly's rapid method is still pretty good!! (Thx. Jelly)

And, if anyone is interested, www.xe.com is a pretty good site for currency conversions.

Suerte!

Polvo

Jelly Donut

04-01-07, 05:13

This past Monday I was sitting outside La Dolce Vita on one of the benches, chatting with Milena. You generally find Milena from Barranquilla on the benches outside LDV. She wears short tight dresses which compliment her long slender legs. Since so many of the girls on the Colombian coast opt for jeans, the tight dress is a nice change of pace.

Milena may not be the prettiest girl and does not have large breasts. Still, she's got fine legs and a fine butt. From behind, she is entirely great. She looks excellent in those dresses.

Another great thing about her is, in my experience, she drives a soft bargain. Milena started negotiations with me for all night at 130.000 ($59).

Her last great selling point is she is very generous in terms of what you can do to her.

I first ran into her in December last year, in the same spot, but earlier this month I saw her working on the main strip in Bocagrande. So, she moves around a little.

I've never seen her in La Dolce Vita, she claims she can get in, but often thinks it's too cold and likes to stay outside.

This was the case on Monday night. There were a lot of girls leaving the disco for the benches outside. Air conditioning is a curse on Coastenas, that's for sure. The coastal Colombian girls can not deal with it and there were a lot of them hanging outside.

While we were sitting there the administrator of LDV (who is also the owner at Electra) walked through the plaza and, sizing up the situation, snapped his fingers and ordered the girls back into disco. He has serious power with the girls. All that tight young tail immediately marched back inside with a snap of his fingers.

There were three hot girls on the bench next to where Milena and I was sitting. It was damn hard to focus on anything when those three move across the plaza. For a moment, I was thinking I should just drop short my conversation with Milena and cut a deal with those three girls. God they looked fine in those jeans as they walked back inside.

The thing is that Milena looks just as good from behind. And, unlike the hottest of chicas in La Dolce Vita, I know she's softer on bargaining and is generally submissive.

My guess is you could talk her down from 130.000 COP TLN, but it's a pretty fair price for what you get and the fact that she starts off in reasonable negotiating territory is just plain pleasant.

Anyway, I went with her on Monday. I brought her up to the place I was staying, showed her the various views from the windows. While she was checking out the last vista, I stood behind her. I pulled up her dress and pulled down her panties. No troublesome jeans!

After getting her wet, I started screwing her. Flipped her onto a table after a few minutes and did her in the ass. I don't think she was very happy about this. I tried to be gentle about the whole thing, but from the noises she was making it was not going smoothly. Still, she did not ask me to stop, even when I gave her the opportunity and asked her if everything was going okay. She just held onto the table a little harder and let me know she was okay.

This is the sort of thing you can not easily work out in a negotiation beforehand. Even if you know how to ask for something off the menu, it's still a complicated thing. A lot of girls, if they try it, will stop you if things get uncomfortable. Not Milena. She's a pro.

Anyway, if your feeling down because some hot little chica in the disco is holding fast to some unreasonable price and your not sure if she's going to give 100 percent, I hope you will remember Milena is probably nearby and she is ready to help.

Belldude2

04-01-07, 10:16

Ok here is my take on exchange rate. As stated before, Divide by 2 then divide by 1000. You actually end up spending even less than estimated. This is a good thing. For instance.... 60,000 divided by 2 = 30,000. Then divide by 1000....This is about 30 bucks. Yeah!!! but if you take the actual exchange rate, lets say... 2280 to one, the the actual amount spent is really 26.31. You spent about 4 bucks less than estimated. So just divide by 2 then remove the three zeros and it is easy and in you favor. Cool huh?

Jelly Donut

04-01-07, 17:20

Caroline is twenty years old. She comes from Bucaramanga. She is one of the more attractive girls who normally works in LDV, generally picking up customers faster and charging more for her time. She tends to attract Italians and sometimes earns serious tips - one seemingly rich Italian was moving a good bit of money to her in January. He had gone home after a couple of weeks in Cartagena, time spent almost entirely with Caroline. He started sending her money once he got home. "You're not working anymore are you?".

She is not the most honest person. She drinks a lot and does drugs. This is the hooker your mother warned you about.

I've talked with her a bit and she is the friend of a friend. It's funny the responses she gives me when I ask certain questions:

"What do you do with your money? "School, my kid brother, my mother....."

But when I talk with my friend about her, it sounds like nearly all her money is going into clothes, shoes, jewellery, perfumes, rent and so forth. She's vain and it's clear she does not value something unless there's a convincing brand stamped on it. No big surprises there. It explains how Studio F is able to stay in business in a town where clothes are basically cheap. We've gone out to eat a couple of times. She's very focused on where we eat, not so much on what we're eating.

Still, she does mind the shop. I've never slept with her, it would tick off my friend, but I know when she's in Cartagena she works the venues every night she can. The fact that guys repeat night-after-night with her is a strong endorsement; she's got to be doing something to keep these guys happy. Sometimes you'll see her during the day in the punto.com cafe trawling the internet dating prospects. She has boyfriends everywhere as far as I can tell.

When I was talking with her in January she was planning a repeat trip to Hong Kong. She had spent some time there last year; she works with a guy who creates false documentation for her. It's expensive, both the documentation and the trip itself. She flies Bogota, Paris and then Hong Kong. Still, according to her, she can make up her expenses with a couple of weeks in Hong Kong. It's pretty wild. I mean it's one thing to get on a bus from Bucaramanga to Cartagena. Hong Kong is a whole different thing. She doesn't really speak much English or French or, of course, any Chinese. I think she spent a few months working there last year. She hates it, but it's good money.

But I was recently talking with our common friend and it sounds like the Hong Kong plan fell through this year. Since the documentation is false and the ticket is so expensive, it's risky for her. If she pays for both and does not make it to Hong Kong she's lost a lot of money with no quick way of earning it back. So, I think she was not happy with the documentation this time, got nervous and bailed out of the China idea.

My friend thinks she is currently in Panama, where she can earn better money than in Cartagena.

Steve 99

04-01-07, 21:55

Caroline is twenty years old. She comes from Bucaramanga. .Ahh Caroline.

I saw that name then the tatto and I said to myself yep that's her.

Had the pleasure of her from Tony in August.

You describe her perfectly. She has been around the block a few times. I highly doubt she is only 20 but I could be wrong. She is always wearing a hat. She loves her hats.

Performance - excellent. You dudced well. For someone who works day after day after day she is a champ in bed.

Only had a short time afternoon session but I though it would be a hardened pro performance - not at all!! DFK-awesome body. Thumbs up.

I have pic but I do not know if she wants her face up here so I will refrain unless Jelly says no problem.

Jim Nelson

04-02-07, 05:15

Hi Jelly Doughnut,

I am headed to CTG next week, this Milena sounds like the sort of girl who I would like to meet. I.E. not overtly mercinary

Can you describe her in more detail for me so I can identify her ? I.E. is she a flaca or does she have a Tattoo etc etc.

A picture would be great!

JN

Mule69

04-02-07, 12:59

Ahh Caroline.

I saw that name then the tatto and I said to myself yep that's her.

Had the pleasure of her from Tony in August.

You describe her perfectly. She has been around the block a few times. I highly doubt she is only 20 but I could be wrong. She is always wearing a hat. She loves her hats.

Performance - excellent. You dudced well. For someone who works day after day after day she is a champ in bed.

Only had a short time afternoon session but I though it would be a hardened pro performance - not at all!! DFK-awesome body

I have pic but I do not know if she wants her face up here so I will refrain unless Jelly says no problem. Post the pic! She works for Tony she is hardcore and doesn't give a shit....probably wants it for business!

Jelly Donut

04-02-07, 16:27

Milena is a thin girl - "flaca". No tattoos. She does have a kid, but it's not that obvious from the tight dresses she wears. She is coastena. In her case, that means she has somewhat brown skin without being African. Brown hair. She does not smoke. I don't think she drinks. I think, currently, there are only two flaca regulars outside the disco. The other is Angelina (Zidaho posted pics of Angelina on 11-10-06 in the Colombia Photo Gallery). Apparently, Angelina is no longer able to get into La Dolce Vita. I think she would be a good deal as well, inexpensive and willing.

After 3am, when LDV closes, Angelina moves business to a bar next to the Tu Candela bar. This might be a good option for guys looking for cheap late night entertainment.

Many of the other girls outside LDV, during club hours, are not my type.

I really should have a picture of Milena up against a wall in one of those dresses, but I don't. We had a conversation once about mixing photographs with this business. I like her and I was going on about how she should never do it, because it's something she would probably need to explain to her grandchild. I went on about how these photos aren't going to go away. Thousands and thousands of guys see these things, there going to be around forever and so on. She was nodding her head knowingly.....

So, I don't have any shots of her.

Still, she might help you out if that's your thing.

Also, feel free to use the informal "Donut" when addressing me, as we are all friends here.

Hi Jelly Doughnut,

I am headed to CTG next week, this Milena sounds like the sort of girl who I would like to meet. I.E. not overtly mercinary

Can you describe her in more detail for me so I can identify her ? I.E. is she a flaca or does she have a Tattoo etc etc.

A picture would be great!

JN

Jelly Donut

04-02-07, 16:31

That's funny. I was thinking when I typed out "Caroline is twenty years old" that what I ought to say is "Caroline says she is twenty." I don't think that is too far off, the way she lives is hard and fast, but she will always lie if she thinks it's good for business.

My understanding is the cut-off age for girls in LDV is 26; you should not find girls over 26 in that disco. I don't know how true that is, but thinking about it, it seems to fit with reality.

In terms of photos, the stuff I took of her was for some internet boyfriend(s). I was doing a favor for her and for my friend. So, I never ask if she would mind having them posted here. I feel like I can post a relatively anonymous photograph, but never got the word on more explicit stuff.

Ahh Caroline.

I saw that name then the tatto and I said to myself yep that's her.

Had the pleasure of her from Tony in August.

You describe her perfectly. She has been around the block a few times. I highly doubt she is only 20 but I could be wrong. She is always wearing a hat. She loves her hats.

Performance - excellent. You dudced well. For someone who works day after day after day she is a champ in bed.

Only had a short time afternoon session but I though it would be a hardened pro performance - not at all!! DFK-awesome body. Thumbs up.

I have pic but I do not know if she wants her face up here so I will refrain unless Jelly says no problem.

Guzzista

04-02-07, 16:37

Post the pic! She works for Tony she is hardcore and doesn't give a shit....probably wants it for business!You're right mule69, be careful with this Santanderiana as she can become 'sticky'. I had a few good, not super, sessions with her. Once I asked for a treesome she agreed and proposed me a couple of girls with whom she wanted to make it. Once it bedroom she started making problems as she felt emontionally undervalued. Can you imagine, the *****? She left the bedroom and thanks god, the second girl performed so good I didn't regret for not having a treesome. Afterwards Caroline felt guilty on her behaviour and to apologise she fucked me as hell till the morning. She insisted not to pay her. After that night that she tried to hook me at LDV again, sometimes sweet, sometimes agressively. I never had her again.

I wouldn't recommend her and if you choose her, don't treat her too well.

Jelly Donut

04-02-07, 23:28

Last Sunday I was up at 4:30am and decided to head over to Electra. The pronunciation is somewhat different in Spanish, so with minor difficulties, I was able to make the trip from Laguito over to the club by 5:00am. A quick trip; I think it cost me 10.000 COP (a little over $4) to get over there, but I'm not sure.

Electra is tighter quarters than La Dolce Vita. More smoke. The girls there are, in subjective terms, not as nice on average as the girls in LDV, although there is a lot of cross-over. Electra opens around the time LDV closes. I think there was a group of four regular hotties from LDV working a corner of the place.

One of them was Alexandra - she has very large fake breasts, 'blonde' hair and can often be seen during the day around Loco Gringo and punto.com cafe. The girls with her were cute paisa-like, brunettes with light skin, but I think they are locals. They left Electra around 5:30am without any business. I've dealt with some of them in the past, one of them wanted money up-front. No joy there. I think they may hit up gringos for big money, short-term stuff, and they stick to that game plan. I don't know.

I left with Esther a 23 year old nursing student from Barranquilla. Short and classic coastal brown, a non-smoker with no plastic surgery. The trip back to Laguito cost 5.000 COP. The normal rate. She pointed out Esther is a "bad" girl in the Bible, but for better and worse, this Esther could use a few pointers on bad behavior. Unremarkable sex - not bad, but nothing to write home about. I really wanted her to go directly after screwing her, but she "kind of" slept a bit, so I took the attached photo and did her again.

She stayed until 8:30am. It turns out she is living in the building "Los Angeles" which is the building Riquisimo BBQ is located in, the default dining location for many gringos in Laguito. She pays 15.000 COP (shy of $8) daily in a space she shares with two other women. Pretty decent for Laguito, eh?

Interestingly and pleasantly, she did not want to go back to her apartment dressed for night work. A signal that she is a regular girl, still holding onto some shame over her work. She called one of her roomates who brought over some street clothes. They left together.

I overpaid her. 200.000 COP since we had no discussion of money beforehand and I did not want to discuss it after. I wanted her to leave happy, which she did. Not the least expensive way to go though, which one key reason why you would go to Electra in the early morning.

As far as I could tell, there were little or no gringos at Electra and many Colombians. From a negotiating point-of-view, it's ripe territory. Esther made a point of underscoring she was a pro when we left; this was obvious to me; I had talked with her for maybe five minutes and did not dance with her at all before telling her I was going and she should come along. I sort of think, if I had spent more time romancing the situation we could have pretended the whole thing was not P4P. I do think that could have happened, but honestly in the end it was nice to kick her out and get on with my day.

Since then I've seen her once in LDV at night and once in front of Riquisimo, with some friends, in the mid-afternoon.

Steve 99

04-02-07, 23:48

Post the pic! She works for Tony she is hardcore and doesn't give a shit....probably wants it for business!For Mule:

Caroline with her many hats!

Mule69

04-03-07, 17:13

For Mule:

Caroline with her many hats!
Thanks for the pic!I guess you have to go thru Tony to see her?

Acuerpado

04-03-07, 19:37

Here's a questions for all you lucky Cartagena regulars. Where exactly is the infamous Tony the tout on the beach (i.e. in front of what building or store)? If I sit down in one of his chairs during my May visit to CTG, how many chicas will he be able to show me? Are they all the same quality as Caroline, who is pictured in recent posts? Thanks.

Kdogg21

04-03-07, 22:50

Jelly Donut

04-04-07, 16:11

Tony is on the section of beach called Hollywood. Hollywood is the only section of beach in Laguito facing open water. He will find you, if you look at all foriegn he will see you before you see him - unless he's on his cell, or working another client - those are the only times I've been able to slip past him. He speaks some English and he is very aggressive in terms of wanting to help you.

In my opinion, any girl Tony can get for you, you can get for yourself. There are a handful of chicas that can generally be found from mid-day and on into the early evening either near the front the building "Atlantis" or across the street near the store in the "Mariaare" building. This is toward the Hilton side of town. Of course, they do move around a bit, but they seem to hang out the most in front of those places. This is more true toward evening.

One of these girls, Tatyana, has nice breasts, great eyes and gives authentic deep-throat head. Some of these girls are "officially" barred from some of the apartment buildings. If you talk with Tony, and need a girl quick, these are often the first girls he calls.

Girls like Caroline, Alejandra and such are not as aggressive during the day. You can find them at LDV at night, but if you just sit down at one of the tables in the Loco Gringo/punto.com section of town for lunch you might end up in a conversation with a girl like that. As I mentioned earlier, I think Caroline is in Panama right now. So, I don't think Tony can get her for you anyway.

In my opinion, it's nicer to sit at the restaurante "El Muelle" on Playa Laguito. This beach is around the corner from Hollywood, the restaurante with two floors and big yellow Aguilla umbrellas. Or if you are feeling more mellow, the less obvious "Genova" is less costly and gives you a great vantage point for people coming and going off Playa Laguito. Your chances with any of the girls you see hanging out at any tables are better than you might think, but of course you may end up talking with regular folks.

For instance, I had an interesting conversation last year with a woman and her niece in El Muelle. The woman spoke English and our entire conversation was in English; she lives in the United States. Her niece is Colombian and only spoke Spanish. We talked for a while, just a normal everyday pleasant coversation. The niece did not really participate. After a time, they got up and left. After a few minutes, the niece came back alone and invited me to join them on a bus tour of the city that night. Bus tours are just drinking parties on wheels.

The niece was cute, but I could not join them since I was scheduled with a hot chica that night. The invitation was nice. This is one type of interaction you can expect in a spot like that during the day. It's a nice thing, it's a nice thing about Colombia and Colombians, but not straight sex tourism. No clear quid-pro-quo, but I believe it is a much better way to spend your day than dealing with Tony. If nothing comes of it, you still have a sure thing waiting for you in one of the clubs at night.

Still, Tony is worth experiencing, I guess. If you need a quick fix, don't speak any Spanish and don't mind paying a little more for some quality BS he's an option.

Here's a questions for all you lucky Cartagena regulars. Where exactly is the infamous Tony the tout on the beach (i.e. in front of what building or store)? If I sit down in one of his chairs during my May visit to CTG, how many chicas will he be able to show me? Are they all the same quality as Caroline, who is pictured in recent posts? Thanks.

p.s. Here's a picture of a couple of girls who turned up while I was talking with Tony in mid-January. These girls work the streets of Laguito. Not all the girls he's got in his rolodex are like Caroline.

Belmont

04-05-07, 03:33

MJG Dogs

04-05-07, 08:57

The demise of fat John from the del rey in laquito makes my day.

Cappadona

04-05-07, 14:49

Good mongering to all!,

Can anyone tell me the better places to stay in CTG? Will be making my first trip there later this month. Would like to stay in an area that is relatively safe, where there are a good amount of none pro and good looking females and finally where there is a good amount of activity and things to do. Does anyone have any advice? Right now I have a place reserved in Laguito. Are there other areas better?

Beavis

04-05-07, 16:20

What no Tony Lama Butch? I guess his cowboy boots wouldn't go too well with the sand huh?

Hunter

04-05-07, 17:29

Sorry if this info is already known by many, But I Hadn't seen it mentioned for a while, but I've been told by Big J___ In CR last month, and he sold his property in El Laguito, and has given up on any plans there!

Many fearfull may relax.

Later, or Pronto??I have never met the guy, but I heard he was buying up a few properties in Lguito.

Do you have any idea why he left?

Hunter

MJG Dogs

04-05-07, 21:50

Aw shit Beavis, you beat me to the punch.

Beavis

04-06-07, 00:13

He never even arrived and I already miss him. It's really too bad it didn't happen. A few loudmouths splattered on the sidewalk would have moved the time backwards in CTG.

Npaul1

04-06-07, 01:26

but I heard he was buying up a few properties in Lguito.

HunterJohn took me out to lunch at a fancy restaurant near the marina. We had some good steaks and beers. He had a driver and a large pickup truck with large cab. John told me he owned the block in Laguito where the art museum / gallery was, a block or two from LDV. He even complained that the art gallery was behind in their rent and he was going to evict them.

He talked about buying some condos there too. Seems he was making an awful lot of money from the Del Rey in Costa Rica and needed a place to stash it.

Jelly Donut

04-06-07, 02:20

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Can anyone tell me the better places to stay in Cartagena?
Laguito will suit you. It's a safe part of town.

I will be making my first trip to Cartagena later this month. Would like to stay in an area that is relatively safe, where there are a good amount of non-pro and good looking females. Does anyone have any advice?
The answer depends on who you are - here are some reports from a guy in his 20's, a guy in his '30's' and a guy in his 50's. They all have different backgrounds and had different experiences.

20s & 30s
Atlantas Finest's posts are a couple of years old, but are some of the best written on the scene from a young guy who mixed pro and non-pro in Cartagena. He is in his twenties, knows Spanish and so forth - he has almost everything a guy needs to work the beachs of Bocogrande and Laguito. Here are his reports:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=363960&postcount=777
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=390131&postcount=932

30s & 40s
Black Page is a stand-up guy for posting the report below. He's got 10 years on Atlanta's Finest, but still worked the beaches. But I believe there's a cautionary tale here. It does not make sense to me that a person would give 170.000 to a "non-pro" for a two-hour session off the beach. I have sat on the beach and watched girls go from being "non-pro" to being "pro" with a shift of the eye. I remember a conversation with a pro I met last year in LDV. She had grown attached to me. She lamented "I wish we had just met on the beach, everthing would be different." At any rate, BP's beach girl got a lot of money and BP walked away very content, so it was a happy ending for all involved:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=537700&postcount=1768

40s & 50s & up
If you are older, Erudite44's post might help. He's flirting with girls in the markets of the old city. By far, I get the most hungry eyes from girls who clearly have regular jobs in the shops of the old city:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=560995&postcount=154

What kind of things are there to do in Cartagena?
This is a big question and depends on who you are and what sort of things you enjoy.

Cartagena is a classic Spanish colonial city. If you spring for a guide book it should give you a complete idea of the standard tourist venues.

Personally, it's a fantastic location for kiteboarding between January and March.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=559920&postcount=1892

Where exactly is the infamous Tony the tout on the beach (i.e. in front of what building or store)?
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=581839&postcount=2002

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Price
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What should I pay her?
This is one of the most discussed topics on the thread. Some people have strong opinions about it. In March 2007 there was a discussion comparing prices in Medellin against prices in Cartagena. Here's one of the posts.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=574642&postcount=1944

Here's another.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=574565&postcount=1943

Is Cartagena in decline as a whoring destination?
Apparently. The first report of Cartagena going down hill was in May 2003.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=85643&postcount=82
...although it may have been on the way down from 1994.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=574721&postcount=1948

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Money
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Counterfeit Bills
"be careful i received a counterfeit 20k, 10k AND 5K note, not all on the same trip but each time I go I get at least one! usually from a cab driver"
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=575474&postcount=1973

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Time
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Does anyone know when Holy Week starts in Colombia? Will everything be closed? Is this a bad time to go?
Holy week starts on Palm Sunday. There are two official holidays between Palm Sunday and Easter Sunday, Holy Thursday and Good Friday. The date for Easter Sunday changes from year to year, it is the first Sunday, after the first full moon of spring. In 2008, Easter will be March 23. In 2009, Easter will be April 12.

Jelly Donut

04-06-07, 03:10

I have never met the guy, but I heard he was buying up a few properties in Lguito.

Do you have any idea why he left?

Hunter

Rumor was there was a restriction on how high he could build from his lot in Laguito, but I do not know. It seems this sort of thing would have been understood ahead of buying the land.

I hope this means the Perro Hawaino stand is coming back. I think that got nuked when that lot was sold.

Mule69

04-06-07, 05:24

Sorry if this info is already known by many, But I Hadn't seen it mentioned for a while, but I've been told by Big J___ In CR last month, and he sold his property in El Laguito, and has given up on any plans there!
Many fearfull may relax.
Later, or Pronto?? Glad to hear that !My friend talked to his partner Greg R. and he basicaly said the same thing, no Del Rey 2 in Ctg.

Beavis

04-06-07, 05:52

What a shame? No Blue Marlin Bar T - shirts from Colombia.

MJG Dogs

04-06-07, 07:43

and no more texans on hollywood beach in speedos. tony the tout must be in mourning, for the del rey in ctg, was his ticket to paradise. farc may not be happy either, for they cannot grab the rich texan with the ostrich boots and rolexes, shit....... that might have been fun to watch.....................

Beavis

04-06-07, 17:23

His plans of converting the silver tooth to a gold one have dissipated along with his order of Miller Lite beer.

Cappadona

04-06-07, 22:50

Jelly Donut

04-09-07, 01:21

Excellent. Have fun, don't fall in love.

Let us know how things go.

Jelly Donut,

Thanks for the info. That helps alot. I definately have a better idea how I will probably be fitting in. Looking forward to my trip. I will try to follow in Altanta's Finest foot steps. I don't know, he has a few years on me, but I got the looks and the language and they tend to think I am still in my mid twenties. I'll let you know how it turns out.

Cachaca Lover

04-11-07, 07:55

Jelly Donut,

Thanks for the info. That helps alot. I definately have a better idea how I will probably be fitting in. Looking forward to my trip. I will try to follow in Altanta's Finest foot steps. I don't know, he has a few years on me, but I got the looks and the language and they tend to think I am still in my mid twenties. I'll let you know how it turns out.

Capp - Are you in Cartagena now? I was just at the LDV tonight, left with a nice looking babe from Barranquilla. Not many mongers in there tonight but filled with many fine looking chicas. Just wondering how you made out. PM me if you'd like.

MJG Dogs

04-12-07, 06:38

He never even arrived and I already miss him. It's really too bad it didn't happen. A few loudmouths splattered on the sidewalk would have moved the time backwards in CTG.

Hey Beavis, there are a couple of guys on the CRT board with their panties all bunched up because we are making remarks about Tony Lama Butch. Tony lama Butch is still an idol to the CRT ( costa rica ticas) crowd.

Beavis

04-12-07, 15:29

Let them whine all they want to. It isn't our fault that they are obnoxious and haven't a clue how to behave in another country. I still wish a couple of these loudmouth assholes would go to Colombia and wind up with an ass whipping like they deserve. I think it would be great if they found Tony lama Butch butt naked on the beach, tied up and gaged, bleeding from the asshole after he had been repeatedly butt fucked by a gang of rebels that didn't like his attitude towards their country. I think that would make a great headline for any newspaper.

"Loudmouth American beaten and sodomized by rebels".

Costa Rica is such a beautiful country but I stopped going there because of the kind of idiots who frequent the terrain.

P.S. You have my permission to cut and paste this on their website.

Gonzo

04-12-07, 17:55

Hey Beavis, there are a couple of guys on the CRT board with their panties all bunched up because we are making remarks about Tony Lama Butch. Tony lama Butch is still an idol to the CRT ( costa rica ticas) crowd.I was the one at CRT that first made a comment about the loss of TLButch because there won't be another Delrey in CTG, noting that there was a lot of schadenfreude going on here. It seems that TLB represents the loud, Hawaiian shirt, shorts, sandals, overweight crowd that can be seen at the DR. Here's my latest:

uhh...do you have a single clue as to what schadenfreude means? If you had went over to ISG and had read the posts, the mongers there were equally delighted (actually much more so, and much more crudely so) that there won't be another Del Rey in CTG.

Schadenfreude: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude

Dima25

04-12-07, 22:07

Whats up guys, I don't normally post but am bored and thought this would be a good story. Mind you I speak no spanish and it was my first night in Cartegena with my boy Aybolit. After we went to a casa to celebrate our first night in Cartegena we went to LDV. I noticed a cute little chica from Baranquilla and told her friend who speaks 3 words of English to tell her friend that I liked her. With my como estas, and tu es bonita and after 5 beers we were dancing and she was rubbing up against me all night. I think I got more lap dances from her in those 3 hours than I did all my life. At 3a. M. We went to another non pro club in the old city. I thought I was gonna get hijacked because I had no clue where we were going, I couldn't even tell the taxi where to go. After that she dragged me to another club where all the ho's meet after LDV and sniff coke and party together. I was so horny that I started regreting not paying some chick to bang me and going with this crazy chick. Around 5a. M. I had my boy translate to her that I'm taking her home, and with her little be/S resistance I dragged her into the car and we went towards my hotel. In the taxi I started attacking her and grabing her and she started jumping on me, and jerking me off and squeezing my balls and penis, whatever her little hand could grab. The taxi guy was smilling and adjusting his mirror (No be/S) In the end I somehow ended up with her in my room and banged her a few times (No money, and no Spanish). She wasn't good but it was a good memory. Two days later she shows up at my hotel room door at 9A. M.

Thank god I wasn't with another chick. In the end I realized she was psycho, and when we did it I slapped her around a few times, and she smacked me back, I think she liked that rough stuff. Anyway my boy Aybolit decided he wanted to bang her, but I don't know if she wanted him or she was mad at me for not saying "I don't want you to go with him and stay with me" Anyway I told her it was her choice but didn't restrain her and as my boy was in my room trying to take her with him she jumped on me and dragged me into the bathroom and blew me on the spot. If she wasn't so crazy I would have chilled with her longer, but I let her go. She banged my boy, and I never saw her again. Welcome to Cartagena! I will never forget it.