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Yes, but you must keep your wits about you.
Is Laureles safe enough for a poor Spanish speaking first timer?
In all fairness I think most of you guys should just stay home. To live a life of constant worry is a terrible thing. Yes there is danger in any big city. To me it is a question of risk against reward. Myself I will go to a place that has beautiful willing women who are not indoctrinated by the USA feminists. I have been to Latin America more times than I remember. I have been lost in MDE Centro at 3 AM, and all I got was help to find the strip club I was looking for. Yes I was lucky, but I live life not as a scared rabbit.
Right now I think there is more danger in the so called non third world country's. The real bad guys don't care about Latin America. They have bigger fish to fry.
OK so you are walking in Centro at night. If a guy pulls a gun or knife there is a simple thing to do. Give up the few pesos in your pocket, and go on your way. I hope you have sense enough to not walk the streets with a big roll of cash. So who cares if you lose 50 K or a cheap cell phone?
Is Laureles safe enough for a poor Spanish speaking first timer?Obviously it depends on you. While Laureles is a relatively nice neighborhood, there is a fair amount of street crime. If you're visiting alone, you're likely going to want to walk around the neighborhood you're staying in. Walking alone on La Setenta or la 33 (two party streets in Laureles) after dark is problematic. Whereas walking alone around Poblado at night is generally fine (though certain areas like Patio Bonito and Manila can be a bit dangerous).
IMO for a first visit, Poblado is better.
Yet another reason to ride the bus and stay in centro instead of taking a taxi and staying in Poblado.Is really bus is safer?
On news they said passanger was linked to criminal bands, or was maybe a robbery.
https://www.bluradio.com/medellin/en-video-quedo-registrado-el-asesinato-de-alias-orejas-desmovilizado-de-las-auc-171266
Pipe Layer99
03-13-18, 06:44
Walked to chico con punto sessioned with Blanco with big tits. Session was decent she was passionate. Enjoyed the way those titties sat on her chest. 42 k for half an hour.
The first one was a thick Blanca that has photoshopped her pics. So I didn't session with her. She was not happy.
The third place I went was a hotel. A 23 curvy shaped Venezuelan. Her pictures were slightly a bit photoshopped but she still had the phat ass I seemed. She has a botched breast surgery though. The things these girls endure for the quest for beauty. Anyway, she had the best pussy since I been here. Nice and tight. Bust two nuts no rush for 100 k. She wouldn't let me take pictures though.
By this time, my latinamericancupid was blowing up my phone. Told her I would send Uber to come pick her up in an hour for dinner. Went home and took a shower. Sent the Uber to pick her up. Had a nice dinner then Netflix and fuck session to put me to bed to wrap up a decent weekend.Heck Yeah, Sunday Funday with Funbags. My man. 2 great finds. Big tits honey and a sweet ass Venezuelan. That's a 'hellova' good day!
The girl who was not happy, LOL, fuck her. She is posting fake photos.
How much was the latinamericancupid honey?
Black Page
03-13-18, 10:33
Yet another reason to ride the bus and stay in centro instead of taking a taxi and staying in Poblado.Playing CSI@ISG is fun, as many attempted after your post, but I rather suggest to use Google to find news on local newspapers. These two articles provide some information on this incident.
http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/doble-homicidio-en-la-avenida-las-palmas-JD8306865
http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/investigaciones-sobre-doble-homicidio-en-las-palmas-KI8309963
Also a third person was injured, a guy who was just passing by on his bike and got a random ball in his leg.
She really didn't ask me for anything. All she wanted was a relacion seria conmigo. I did give her the rest of money I had leftover before I left so about 160 K. I have been very successful on that site albeit not as successful on the site in Medellin. I was only able to meet two of the like 10 girls I connected with on the site.
Heck Yeah, Sunday Funday with Funbags. My man. 2 great finds. Big tits honey and a sweet ass Venezuelan. That's a 'hellova' good day!
The girl who was not happy, LOL, fuck her. She is posting fake photos.
How much was the latinamericancupid honey?
Is Laureles safe enough for a poor Spanish speaking first timer?The short answer is yes. The longer answer is, it depends on where in Laureles. There are areas at the fringes of Poblado where you probably don't want to go, especially after dark. The same is true in Laureles, especially in the area between Laureles and El Centro. Fortunately, there's no real reason to go to those areas, except to pass through in a taxi.
The detailed answer:
I spent 9 months living in Poblado and frequently walked from the south end at La Frontera, to Parque Lleras, or walked back. Several times I made the walk after midnight (waiting until the bars close to try and catch a taxi is a bad idea). At no time did I have any problems.
I've spent the last 2 months living in Laureles. During this time, I've spent a lot of time walking around. I've done a fair amount of walking after dark and haven't had any problems. Maybe it's just me.
If you stay in Laureles, stay in the area between Avenida Bolivariana, Calle 33, Avenida Nutibara and Calle 44, unless you're staying along Carrera 70. Then you can stay north of Calle 44 just stay south of the metro station at Estadio.
Along Carrera 70 are plenty of bars and restaurants, most are inexpensive. Plenty of people out at night, especially Thursday thru Saturday. Huge crowds and serious party atmosphere whenever Atletico Nacional has a home game. Heavy police presence on those nights. There are a few girls who work the street and clubs at night, but they're harder to spot than the girls in Parque Lleras. They keep a much lower profile.
Except for Calle 44 and Calle 33, the side streets within the area defined above are nice, residential streets with plenty of small restaurants and stores scattered around. My street has a security guard who rides through on a bicycle all night long.
Parque Lleras is the upper class party area. Everything is more expensive. It has more food and party options. La Setenta (Carrera 70) is the middle class party area. Beer costs about 1/2 of the Lleras price, same with food. The hotel options in Laureles are more reasonable.
One rarely mentioned advantage of Laureles, no hills. Almost anywhere in Poblado you'll be walking up and down the hills. If you're coming from sea level, are older and not in good physical condition, you're going to end up taking a lot of short taxi rides because of the hills.
If you want more glitz and glamour and want to be around more gringos, spend the money and stay in Poblado near Parque Lleras. If you want the party atmosphere with a decent level of comfort, stay in Laureles and save 20 - 30%. If you want the cheapest of everything, save 50% and stay in El Centro.
Hilltopper
03-13-18, 13:35
What happened? I can't tell other than the damaged taxi and dead person. Was this a robbery or an accident?Assassination (hit) of a specific target, being the Colombian passenger of the taxi, a member of the demobilized AUC block: Bloque Heroes de Granada de las Autodefensas. The assassinated passenger is a known criminal offender linked to the Pachelly crime group (Pachelly is a sector of Bello), which conducts a good part of its criminal action in the north of Valle de Aburra.
Stray bullet from one of the 4 assassins hit and injured a 3rd guy in the leg, who was an autonomous motorcyclist driving in the area at the time of the hit.
File under: Retaliation/revenge between criminal organizations.
I prefer the Sugar Baby type girls off SeekingArrangements etc and it is akin to dating, my longest SB relationship was a stripper who lived with me off and on for 5 years. She had some substance abuse problems but was very hot & fun to me. She was 18 when we met and she just turned 30 last year. LOL.I personally like using some sugar baby dating services for finding such girls. Have you tried Secret Benefits (https://www.facebook.com/SecretBenefitsOfficial/)? It is one of them and works perfectly for me. I think you might find it interesting too, good luck with it!
Assassination (hit) of a specific target, being the Colombian passenger of the taxi, a member of the demobilized AUC block: Bloque Heroes de Granada de las Autodefensas. The assassinated passenger is a known criminal offender linked to the Pachelly crime group (Pachelly is a sector of Bello), which conducts a good part of its criminal action in the north of Valle de Aburra.
Stray bullet from one of the 4 assassins hit and injured a 3rd guy in the leg, who was an autonomous motorcyclist driving in the area at the time of the hit.
File under: Retaliation/revenge between criminal organizations.So, unless you're a member of a criminal organization, whether you take a taxi or bus probably doesn't matter much.
I personally like using some sugar baby dating services for finding such girls. Have you tried Secret Benefits (https://www.facebook.com/SecretBenefitsOfficial/)? It is one of them and works perfectly for me. I think you might find it interesting too, good luck with it!Sure, SecretBenefits, WhatsYourPrice, SeekingArrangements, SugarDaddie.com have all been useful. I still like SA the best though.
I don't speak much spanish and now I live in Medellin part time! Speaking spanish is over rated. You can use the translation programs on your cell phone. Even though very few people speak English there, most people are very cooperative. I would go to MDE.
Well the mansion is booked, both houses. 3 months in advance. My Spanish is bad. Though, not non existent. I have spent about a month in Sosua and Jaco, over the past 9 months. So I picked up some, and can communicate (and flirt) with good old fashion google translate. I always travel solo, as it pretty much makes the experience so much better. Except Jaco. Jaco sucks.
Would Cartagena be better because of the tourism factor?
I am opting for a nice airbnb with a sick view.
When you come in from the airport, do you always get dropped off two blocks away from your hotel / apartment?
Do you invite Chicas back to your apartment? You better be careful, they might sell your apartment number to Bandito! Do you buy groceries / beer and bring them back to your apartment? You better be careful, the guy bagging your groceries may sell your whereabouts to burglar!El Mechanico.Why would I take a taxi from the airport when there is a perfectly good bus for 1/20 of the price? I take chicas to love motels until I know them better. How would the guy bagging my groceries know where I lived?
Manizales911
03-13-18, 23:39
I don't speak much spanish and now I live in Medellin part time! Speaking spanish is over rated. You can use the translation programs on your cell phone. Even though very few people speak English there, most people are very cooperative. I would go to MDE.It's only overrated if you are the one that doesn't speak it. My first trip to Colombia 12 years ago I did not have more than ten words of Spanish and I had a great time but now that I speak pretty good Spanish it is a million times better.
Until and unless you speak the language, you will never be able to develop meaningful relationships. You will always get ripped off on pricing, and you will never know who your real friends are. Aside from that, it is overrated.
I agree with the meaningful relationships. With respect to true friends and everything else, "never" is a very strong word. After all, we can have the misfortune of being misled by fake friends and con jobs who speak the same language. Sure, it's easier to sense deceit when you don't have to figure out what someone is saying but real con men rely on connecting with their marks. Sometimes when the marks feel vulnerable and the con man is the only one who speaks the mark's language. "Always ripped off on prices" is maybe an explanation for the popularity of places like New Life where prices are posted on the wall with English explanations. I think I learned something from this today.
Until and unless you speak the language, you will never be able to develop meaningful relationships. You will always get ripped off on pricing, and you will never know who your real friends are. Aside from that, it is overrated.
Speaking only for myself, I believe I would I would rate Spanish fluency as more important if it were higher up on the list of accomplishments that have benefited me in life. Looking at it from another angle, while I don't doubt learning Mandarin, Thai, or Slavic languages would enhance my experiences when I visit countries where they are spoken, I don't really feel like I'm missing out on enough that I'm going to try to convince people they can't enjoy themselves without language immersion. I'm convinced it is a plus to be multilingual but I feel no need to hammer at the point and tell people what they can and can't do without language ability. My advice is go and see for yourself, decide if you want to devote the time to language learning or if you are satisfied with your experiences without it.
I don't speak much spanish and now I live in Medellin part time! Speaking spanish is over rated. You can use the translation programs on your cell phone. Even though very few people speak English there, most people are very cooperative. I would go to MDE.
El Mechanico
03-14-18, 01:49
Why would I take a taxi from the airport when there is a perfectly good bus for 1/20 of the price? I take chicas to love motels until I know them better. How would the guy bagging my groceries know where I lived?My goodness, I was joking about your over cautiousness. Damn man!! How many times has a taxi driver or uber driver sold your hotel / apt intel to a ladron? I have always enjoyed your posts but to suggest that someone be dropped off or picked up 2 blocks from their hotel, especially by an uber drive (where you constantly have to be on the phone checking where they are and how long they will be) is stupidity at its lowest level. You suggested we walk 2 blocks the order an Uber? Really? Get dropped off 2 blocks from your hotel then have to walk the streets back to your hotel? Really? If you don't trust your hotel / apartment enough to be dropped off there, you need to get another hotel / apartment!!
El Mechanico.
El Mechanico
03-14-18, 01:55
In all fairness I think most of you guys should just stay home. To live a life of constant worry is a terrible thing. Yes there is danger in any big city. To me it is a question of risk against reward. Myself I will go to a place that has beautiful willing women who are not indoctrinated by the USA feminists. I have been to Latin America more times than I remember. I have been lost in MDE Centro at 3 AM, and all I got was help to find the strip club I was looking for. Yes I was lucky, but I live life not as a scared rabbit.
Right now I think there is more danger in the so called non third world country's. The real bad guys don't care about Latin America. They have bigger fish to fry.
OK so you are walking in Centro at night. If a guy pulls a gun or knife there is a simple thing to do. Give up the few pesos in your pocket, and go on your way. I hope you have sense enough to not walk the streets with a big roll of cash. So who cares if you lose 50 K or a cheap cell phone?You said what I have always thought. Nothing happens till it happens and if one is so afraid of it happening, they need to skip (fill in the blank) & watch a murder mystery on Netflix from the comfort of their couch. Get dropped of 2 blocks from your hotel so the bad guys won't know where you are staying? You would be putting yourself at 10 X more risk by walking the 2 blocks back to your hotel!! Most assinine post I have read on this forum!!
Kelso, you are correct & I agree with you!
El Mechanico.
Why would I take a taxi from the airport when there is a perfectly good bus for 1/20 of the price? I take chicas to love motels until I know them better. How would the guy bagging my groceries know where I lived?Why would anyone pay 190 k for a taxi from the airport? Or where's the bus for 3250 COP?
If you need to get out 2 blocks away or hide where you're staying from everyone, maybe you're staying in the wrong place. Even without a porter, I have no worries about anyone knowing where I live. Unless someone wants to lob a grenade up from the street, I think I'll be okay.
ColombiaLover
03-14-18, 03:26
I used to use William also. For airport trips and trips out of town. But he got himself on one of the USA TV shows a while back. And has been trying to focus on doing tours for regular folks. His daughter was working with him. He starting farming me out on cab rides or just cancelling, so I stopped using him. I also rented a few apartments from him. I thought of him as a friend at the time also. I have no idea if he will do a casa or strip club tour any more. If guess if he's not busy and the money is right, he'd do it. But I bet you can get the same service much cheaper from others.
When I first went to Medellin about 6 or 7 years ago I used a guy named William. He knows all the places. But I think in the last couple years he has been doing good just doing regular tourist stuff. So, I don't think he does the tours of lady places so much anymore. But I know he will still do it. He probably charges more these days though, and the last couple years he always seems busy. You can Google Best Guide Medellin. He will be the first listed website. Since he always seems busy I don't even tell him when I go to Medellin anymore. We used to be pretty close as friends for awhile.
It's only overrated if you are the one that doesn't speak it. My first trip to Colombia 12 years ago I did not have more than ten words of Spanish and I had a great time but now that I speak pretty good Spanish it is a million times better.Right on the money amigo!
How can anyone really believe that speaking the native language is not a HUGE advantage with everything.
Mr Enternational
03-14-18, 09:55
I have been lost in MDE Centro at 3 AM, and all I got was help to find the strip club I was looking for. Yes I was lucky,Lucky how? That is normal downtown. I think people on this board are just scared of how it looks.
Lucky how? That is normal downtown. I think people on this board are just scared of how it looks.A lot of people on this board are scared of El Centro and some of their fears are unreasonable. However, walking around El Centro lost, at 3 am is not something that should be encouraged. There's a fair amount of ugly just a block or 2 away from all of the downtown strip clubs and around 8 to 8:30 pm the cops all disappear. Not that many cops hang out on the worst streets.
It's not too difficult to avoid problems in El Centro. It's also not too difficult to find problems in El Centro and at 3 am, if you don't know where you're at, problems are easier to find and harder to avoid.
The short answer is yes. The longer answer is, it depends on where in Laureles. There are areas at the fringes of Poblado where you probably don't want to go, especially after dark. The same is true in Laureles, especially in the area between Laureles and El Centro. Fortunately, there's no real reason to go to those areas, except to pass through in a taxi.
The detailed answer:
I spent 9 months living in Poblado and frequently walked from the south end at La Frontera, to Parque Lleras, or walked back. Several times I made the walk after midnight (waiting until the bars close to try and catch a taxi is a bad idea). At no time did I have any problems.
I've spent the last 2 months living in Laureles. During this time, I've spent a lot of time walking around. I've done a fair amount of walking after dark and haven't had any problems. Maybe it's just me.
If you stay in Laureles, stay in the area between Avenida Bolivariana, Calle 33, Avenida Nutibara and Calle 44, unless you're staying along Carrera 70. Then you can stay north of Calle 44 just stay south of the metro station at Estadio.
Along Carrera 70 are plenty of bars and restaurants, most are inexpensive. Plenty of people out at night, especially Thursday thru Saturday. Huge crowds and serious party atmosphere whenever Atletico Nacional has a home game. Heavy police presence on those nights. There are a few girls who work the street and clubs at night, but they're harder to spot than the girls in Parque Lleras. They keep a much lower profile.
Except for Calle 44 and Calle 33, the side streets within the area defined above are nice, residential streets with plenty of small restaurants and stores scattered around. My street has a security guard who rides through on a bicycle all night long.
Parque Lleras is the upper class party area. Everything is more expensive. It has more food and party options. La Setenta (Carrera 70) is the middle class party area. Beer costs about 1/2 of the Lleras price, same with food. The hotel options in Laureles are more reasonable.
One rarely mentioned advantage of Laureles, no hills. Almost anywhere in Poblado you'll be walking up and down the hills. If you're coming from sea level, are older and not in good physical condition, you're going to end up taking a lot of short taxi rides because of the hills.
If you want more glitz and glamour and want to be around more gringos, spend the money and stay in Poblado near Parque Lleras. If you want the party atmosphere with a decent level of comfort, stay in Laureles and save 20 - 30%. If you want the cheapest of everything, save 50% and stay in El Centro.I like Laureles. However, I've never found a good hotel to stay in there. There has always been one problem or another the major one being noise. If I find a nice hotel in Laureles suitable for my needs (quiet, good wifi, fridge, good breakfast, safe, etc.) I would certainly stay there.
Sure, SecretBenefits, WhatsYourPrice, SeekingArrangements, SugarDaddie.com have all been useful. I still like SA the best though.SA has always been good to me as well. I'm planning a trip in July. I already have about a dozen newbies lined up. The hard part will be picking the ones I can get to. I won't be able to get to them all.
PolloNegro
03-14-18, 20:40
A lot of people on this board are scared of El Centro and some of their fears are unreasonable. However, walking around El Centro lost, at 3 am is not something that should be encouraged. There's a fair amount of ugly just a block or 2 away from all of the downtown strip clubs and around 8 to 8:30 pm the cops all disappear. Not that many cops hang out on the worst streets.
It's not too difficult to avoid problems in El Centro. It's also not too difficult to find problems in El Centro and at 3 am, if you don't know where you're at, problems are easier to find and harder to avoid.I hung out all times of the night and didn't have one problem. I truly believe no one wants to scuffle with anyone who can really scuffle.
I hung out all times of the night and didn't have one problem. I truly believe no one wants to scuffle with anyone who can really scuffle.Especially if they have unlimited amounts of money to get themselves out of whatever they get themselves into. Ja ja.
It helps, definitely.
Right on the money amigo!
How can anyone really believe that speaking the native language is not a HUGE advantage with everything.
TimeKeeper281
03-15-18, 05:15
Obviously it depends on you. While Laureles is a relatively nice neighborhood, there is a fair amount of street crime. If you're visiting alone, you're likely going to want to walk around the neighborhood you're staying in. Walking alone on La Setenta or la 33 (two party streets in Laureles) after dark is problematic. Whereas walking alone around Poblado at night is generally fine (though certain areas like Patio Bonito and Manila can be a bit dangerous).
IMO for a first visit, Poblado is better.I appreciate the response. I am going to do Poblado, even though in the future I suspect I will prefer Laureles. I am just having hell picking an airbnb in Poblado. I want something really nice. I guess Blux, but I am not even sure if I will run into issues there with girls, even though it says guests are OK.
PolloNegro
03-15-18, 06:15
There are a few, just don't know their Chica policy, here's some:
(I want to walk a short a distance as possible to the Centro strip clubs and airport bus so I stick with Botero).
Grand Hotel $60+ has pool.
Calle 54 No. 45 - 92.
Hotel Mi Colombia $35+.
Calle 50 No 46- 14.
Hotel 47 Medellin Street $32+.
Calle 47 #45-47.I like the look of some of the rooms but my biggest question is, are these hotels girl friendly and allow you to bring girls back to the room?
I don't speak much spanish and now I live in Medellin part time! Speaking spanish is over rated. You can use the translation programs on your cell phone...Indeed, it is not necessary to speak Spanish in order to enjoy one self in that city, but the ability to speak Spanish greatly enhances the experience, by an order of magnitude.
On my first trip to Cartagena 20 years ago, I did not speak any Spanish, but managed to have a good time. My Spanish is better now and likewise my experience is a whole lot better.
I don't speak much spanish and now I live in Medellin part time! Speaking spanish is over rated. You can use the translation programs on your cell phone. Even though very few people speak English there, most people are very cooperative. I would go to MDE.It's certainly possible to get by using translation apps, but speaking the local language is not overrated. If anything, it's underrated.
Without knowing at least the basics of the local language, you've placed strict limits on every experience. You've decided "this is good enough. " Coming from the US, good enough seems great, but it gets so much better when you add the ability to communicate without constantly reaching for your phone.
Unfortunately, learning the language isn't easy. It takes time to be able to hear and understand what the natives are saying. It's difficult remembering which tense to use. Then there's pronunciation. However, once you reach a certain point it becomes easier. You begin to recognize enough words to figure out meanings of words you don't know. You'll find that there are hundreds of words you already know, except the spelling is different, or different.
It's the difference between listening to a song on a cheap music box or listening to the same song performed live.
I like the look of some of the rooms but my biggest question is, are these hotels girl friendly and allow you to bring girls back to the room?Not sure about the Grand but I think the other 2 might be Love Motels that also rent short time so I would think for sure with them. But I would check with them to be sure.
ColombiaLover
03-16-18, 01:43
You should not have any problem with chicas at Blux, as long as the chica has a legitimate cedula. Blux is nice. The location is good. Has a pool, although it's cold.
You can also go with Poblado Rentals. They have some nice apartments. If you are looking for something a little more upscale, try Energy Living. There are new apartments not far from the Mansion. I think the building is Oasis? But I don't know much about it. Good luck!
I appreciate the response. I am going to do Poblado, even though in the future I suspect I will prefer Laureles. I am just having hell picking an airbnb in Poblado. I want something really nice. I guess Blux, but I am not even sure if I will run into issues there with girls, even though it says guests are OK.
TimeKeeper281
03-16-18, 03:24
Since my flight was so cheap, I went with Energy for a place that was $892 for 9 nights. Flight and lodging, was only $1500. And to think I was going to go to Sao Paulo and spend 1600 on just a flight.
You should not have any problem with chicas at Blux, as long as the chica has a legitimate cedula. Blux is nice. The location is good. Has a pool, although it's cold.
You can also go with Poblado Rentals. They have some nice apartments. If you are looking for something a little more upscale, try Energy Living. There are new apartments not far from the Mansion. I think the building is Oasis? But I don't know much about it. Good luck!
I like Laureles. However, I've never found a good hotel to stay in there. There has always been one problem or another the major one being noise. If I find a nice hotel in Laureles suitable for my needs (quiet, good wifi, fridge, good breakfast, safe, etc.) I would certainly stay there.You might try Hotel Verony San Joaquin. It's 1 block off of la 70 towards the south end. Tonight around 8 when I walked past there wasn't much noise at street level. Looks like breakfast is available and rooms start at 60 k. There are several little restaurants close by as well.
http://www.hotelveronysanjoaquin.com/
Unfortunately, learning the language isn't easy. It takes time to be able to hear and understand what the natives are saying. It's difficult remembering which tense to use. Then there's pronunciation. However, once you reach a certain point it becomes easier. You begin to recognize enough words to figure out meanings of words you don't know. You'll find that there are hundreds of words you already know, except the spelling is different, or different.While learning other languages is indeed difficult, Spanish is one of the easier ones to learn, because the pronunciation rules are clear and absolute, as are the rules on which syllable to stress. There are very few homonyms. Certainly it is easier to learn than English! I am reminded of the I Love Lucy episode where Ricky becomes frustrated because rough, through, and bough don't rhyme. None of that nonsense in Spanish. Plus you have a final authority on what is correct Spanish: La Academia Real (The Royal Academy) de Madrid. As an added bonus, the Spanish spoken in Colombia is some of the clearest around, especially in the highlands. So Medellíand would be an ideal place to learn Spanish.
Hey,
I will be staying at hotel Torre Poblado in a few months. What casas and strip clubs are near there. Also, if you had to rank the top 3 to 5 strip clubs in Medellin and top 3 to 5 cases in Medellin how would you rank them. I don't care about money. Looking for quality at the clubs and cases and want street hookers which can be lower quality but better performance. Is Parque Lleras where you go for the street hookers.
Black Page
03-16-18, 18:48
While learning other languages is indeed difficult, Spanish is one of the easier ones to learn, because the pronunciation rules are clear and absolute, as are the rules on which syllable to stress. It depends on the mother tongue of the learner. I have seldom listened Americans and English speaking a decent Spanish, at least as far as the pronunciation is concerned. And not to mention the grammar rules and verb conjugation, which is an obscure land for English native speakers.
I know, also French never lose their way to speak, and Greek in particular never lose their accent (I know some who have been living in US for 20 years and still say "fres fis" because he seems to refuse saying "sh").
However, even before people will start jumping on me, I am able to enumerate on my own various ways to argue with what I wrote.
I think the easiest language I have tried to learn is Indonesian. Pronunciation is easy for all those who are used to speak as they write, with few clear rules of pronunciation. However, for any language including Indonesian, there is a huge step between learning the basic survival language and the being able to speak correctly more than a few thousands words. Any language is difficult, if one wants to speak correctly and fluently with appropriate words.
It depends on the mother tongue of the learner. I have seldom listened Americans and English speaking a decent Spanish, at least as far as the pronunciation is concerned. And not to mention the grammar rules and verb conjugation, which is an obscure land for English native speakers.
I know, also French never lose their way to speak, and Greek in particular never lose their accent (I know some who have been living in US for 20 years and still say "fres fis" because he seems to refuse saying "sh").
However, even before people will start jumping on me, I am able to enumerate on my own various ways to argue with what I wrote.
I think the easiest language I have tried to learn is Indonesian. Pronunciation is easy for all those who are used to speak as they write, with few clear rules of pronunciation. However, for any language including Indonesian, there is a huge step between learning the basic survival language and the being able to speak correctly more than a few thousands words. Any language is difficult, if one wants to speak correctly and fluently with appropriate words.Most people whose mother tongue is neither Spanish nor English would find it easier to learn Spanish, I would posit. That would be especially true when it comes to writing, since English spelling makes no sense and Spanish has absolute rules. For example, there is no situation in Spanish where two different words are spelled identically but pronounced differently. And native speakers of other Romance languages such as Italian or Portuguese would find it much easier to learn Spanish than English, just as I found it easy to learn Italian after becoming fluent in Spanish. Even Portuguese, which I can't speak, I can read. I would also say that learning a third or subsequent language is quite a bit easier than learning the second one.
Starting younger makes it easier. Of course, we no longer have that option. My advice to make maximum progress in the shortest amount of time is to focus on the spoken language and leave reading and writing for last. Another helpful tactic is watch lots of television and film, preferably without subtitles. Even with subtitles TV and film are helpful because you learn vocabulary as you see people acting out and reacting to the spoken dialogue. It also helps improve pronunciation and comprehension. It takes a bit of discipline because the path of least resistance is to go back to what's familiar, but that only interferes with learning.
The written language, reading and writing, is not as useful for our purposes as the spoken language. In fact, unless you need it for work, you will find not being able to read or write to be only a minor inconvenience. In less developed countries, large segments of the population are illiterate.
Most people whose mother tongue is neither Spanish nor English would find it easier to learn Spanish, I would posit. That would be especially true when it comes to writing, since English spelling makes no sense and Spanish has absolute rules. For example, there is no situation in Spanish where two different words are spelled identically but pronounced differently. And native speakers of other Romance languages such as Italian or Portuguese would find it much easier to learn Spanish than English, just as I found it easy to learn Italian after becoming fluent in Spanish. Even Portuguese, which I can't speak, I can read. I would also say that learning a third or subsequent language is quite a bit easier than learning the second one.
Most people whose mother tongue is neither Spanish nor English would find it easier to learn Spanish, I would posit. That would be especially true when it comes to writing, since English spelling makes no sense and Spanish has absolute rules. For example, there is no situation in Spanish where two different words are spelled identically but pronounced differently. And native speakers of other Romance languages such as Italian or Portuguese would find it much easier to learn Spanish than English, just as I found it easy to learn Italian after becoming fluent in Spanish. Even Portuguese, which I can't speak, I can read. I would also say that learning a third or subsequent language is quite a bit easier than learning the second one.Which in your opinion is the hardest Romance language? I have limited exposure to most of them, but for me, Romanian is by far the most complex. Also, any suggestions for the best course for learning Spanish?
Romance languages such as Italian or Portuguese would find it much easier to learn Spanish than English, just as I found it easy to learn Italian after becoming fluent in Spanish. Even Portuguese, which I can't speak, I can read. I would also say that learning a third or subsequent language is quite a bit easier than learning the second one.I agree. I started to learn Spanish in the mid 1990's after a buddy took me to Puerta Plata in the DR and I loved the Latinas, but the only thing I could say to them was "juevos rancheros" cause that's all I knew, LOL.
Didn't get very far with that phrase, LOL, so I got dedicated to learn Spanish, and I mean dedicated.
I really wanted to learn, and I did.
We all can if we put our mind to it. Most people half ass it and / or get frustrated and just give up.
Years later I started visiting, and semi living in Brazil, so I took up Portuguese with the same vigor, however, as you say, the subsequent Romance languages are much easier to learn than the first.
Also, like you said, with Spanish you can look at a word and easily know how to pronounce it, even if you don't know what it means.
It's intuitive.
Portuguese is not like that.
When I switch from Portuguese to Spanish, I feel my mind relax.
Though I actually find Portuguese a sexier language, and even the Latinas like when I whisper sweet and sexy Portuguese in their ear.
The idea that speaking the native language is overrated is very naive.
I suggest we take this to the Chit Chat section at this point.
I suggest we take this to the Chit Chat section at this point.Wow so much about learning Spanish, yes indeed it is important to successfully monger in El Centro. This last week I was walking around the Museum and the Church on the look out for girls I have never seen before besides the same ones that are there every day. I ran into a petite young thing on the backside of the Church, no beauty queen but not ugly and asked her how much to go to the room. I was quoted 15,000 Pesos and upon clarification she said the BJ would be uncovered. I had never seen this one out before so I decided to give it a go, what the heck for $ 6 US and $ 2 US for the room I'm not going to go broke. She was a great performer and upon learning her story she lives with her three brothers and her baby and told me that her brothers were lazy, hardly worked, and that her Mom didn't treat her well and favored her brothers. Hence she was out on the street trying to make ends meet. This one is a little gem, totally unspoiled and I gave her 30,000 Pesos after hearing her story and she could not believe it. She was so poor she told me she couldn't even afford a cell phone when I asked her for her number. She only works a few days a week and her Mom thinks she's working in a restaurant. So my experience was bittersweet, she was tight, so tight, and I will see her again, but what a sad story, however there are many others on the streets just trying to make ends meet whatever they have to do.
SavePros321
03-17-18, 16:38
Just would like to co-sign what others have said about using Uber in Medellin. I got tired of the 444-0000 main taxi number always being busy and ordered my Chica an Uber. It worked flawlessly and it kept me from having to try to always have change for a 50k note for her taxi. You are also able to view the entire ride and see when she reaches her destination.
Few quick tips:
-When the Uber arrives be sure to walk your Chica to the Uber and let the driver know that the Uber is for her.
-Make sure you tell your Chica that the Uber is just to her house / main destinations ONLY. No problems with it yet. I think Uber will end the ride if the passenger exits the vehicle at any point.
-Make sure you put a travel alert on the card that you are using with Uber so that your bank won't block your card.
The one thing I haven't tried yet is sending an Uber for someone. This is a great option for chicas as she doesn't have to come out of pocket initially (most of them don't have any money until after visiting you, LOL), and it also allows you to see the fare estimate and have it charged to your card instead of reaching into your pockets.
Here is a link for anyone interested in learning how to send an Uber to pick someone up: https://ride.guru/content/newsroom/how-to-request-an-uber-for-your-friend
NOTE: If you read the article it says something about sending the person a text message with a link to confirm their pickup, so your Chica most likely needs to have a cell phone with data and minutes.
Hopefully more of you will get onboard with using Uber there. It is a great resource and tool for our hobby and we should support them so that they continue to thrive here and improve their service offerings. After using Uber its kinda hard going back to the regular yellow taxis, lol.
+1 excellent advice, I think uber might also have started accepting cash in Medellin because I noticed one of my drivers had a wad of small denomination bills in his ashtray like the taxistas do. You named all the benefits. As for sending a car, my tip is to send it to a nearby landmark like restaurant or really anything that shows up near your chica's location on google maps. Uber has been having GPS challenges resolving street addresses the past 4 or 5 months. There are two sides to every story. You will encounter delays getting an uber at prime time rush hour (hora de pico). Those are the times it's more convenient to flag down a taxi.
Just would like to co-sign what others have said about using Uber in Medellin. I got tired of the 444-0000 main taxi number always being busy and ordered my Chica an Uber. It worked flawlessly and it kept me from having to try to always have change for a 50k note for her taxi. You are also able to view the entire ride and see when she reaches her destination.
Few quick tips:
-When the Uber arrives be sure to walk your Chica to the Uber and let the driver know that the Uber is for her.
-Make sure you tell your Chica that the Uber is just to her house / main destinations ONLY. No problems with it yet. I think Uber will end the ride if the passenger exits the vehicle at any point.
-Make sure you put a travel alert on the card that you are using with Uber so that your bank won't block your card..
... Hopefully more of you will get onboard with using Uber there. It is a great resource and tool for our hobby and we should support them so that they continue to thrive here and improve their service offerings. After using Uber its kinda hard going back to the regular yellow taxis, lol.I use Uber most of the time when sending chicas home. Most of them prefer Uber over taxis. I have it set up on a cash basis rather than a credit card. Since the app tells me the fare, I give the chica a little extra. 20 mil covers almost all trips, except from Poblado to Bello. That way, if she wants to go some other place, then any extra fare is her responsibility.
I have had a few snags with Uber. On the last trip, I met a guy on the airplane who was going to Poblado and his friend had ordered an Uber to pick him up at the airport. He invited me to share the ride. The driver ended up going right by my apartment, so he did not have to go out of his way. Also, he did not have to wait at the airport because when we came out of baggage claim he was not there. We went to the ATM and when we returned, the driver was there. He charged 80 mil. Too much! Sometimes the driver just doesn't show up. I track him on the app and when he (or she) is close to the apartment, I go outside. A few times, they just disappeared. I had one who input a charge because he said I wasn't there. When I was tracking him, he went towards the Mansion when he got close to Park Lleras. I stay near Park Lleras, not at the Mansion. Even then, I waited for him outside the apartment. A message to Uber reversed the charge, but in the meantime I could not summon another Uber unless I agreed to pay the charge.
One other point to add to SavePros321's points, when a driver accepts my request, I always send a message to tell them my exact location. Sometimes their app doesn't work well with GPS.
Hello gents,
I just wanted to shout out this board for always providing detailed (and entertaining) insight on the local culture in Medellin. I've had 3 trips to the city of Eternal Spring (my trips are all detailed thoroughly in this forum) - and am itching for a 4th trip (Medellin always calls LOL). I was wondering if anybody has any insight as to whether mid-to-late April is a good time to visit. It seems as if flights are cheap and accommodations are readily available and I'm wondering if that's because it's not a great time to visit? I've only been in September, December & January (and all were excellent visits in terms of hobbying). Any wisdom is appreciated.
As for some hotly debated topics on the forum:
-I've never felt in danger walking in El Centro at reasonable hours. And with my senses heightened and aware to my surroundings. I also speak very limited Spanish. But am an experienced traveler and exercise situational awareness when a foreigner. I've felt more danger in many US cities in the wrong areas than I have walking around Medellin. But that doesn't mean I'm not always on guard, scanning my surroundings for any red flags, and am cautious when in an unfamiliar city halfway across the globe from my home.
-my experiences with cabs have been nothing but excellent in Medellin. And never felt the need to be dropped of blocks away from my destination. But then again, I'm not engaged in any illegal activity. So I don't feel a need to be paranoid.
-while being fluent in spanish undoubtedly makes the experience better. You can still have an amazing experience with limited spanish proficiency.
-have never tried uber in Medellin. Thanks for the heads-up! I'll give it a try.
Surf Looker
03-18-18, 03:52
Amigos any have experience with this prepagos.
Hello gents,
I just wanted to shout out this board for always providing detailed (and entertaining) insight on the local culture in Medellin. I've had 3 trips to the city of Eternal Spring (my trips are all detailed thoroughly in this forum) - and am itching for a 4th trip (Medellin always calls LOL). I was wondering if anybody has any insight as to whether mid-to-late April is a good time to visit.I just looked at my past trips and I was there 4 years in a row (2012-2015) at that time. Everything was the same as any other time of the year I have visited. There were plenty of beautiful young ladies available. I'll be going in the first half of April this year.
MedellinGringo
03-18-18, 06:10
Amigos any have experience with this prepagos.The only one I know is the second one from the left.
Her name is Pao. And she worked at the mansion years ago. Hot body but she has some miles on her.
Never did her but I have been out with her on the town in a group many times. She has a pleasant personally. And she literally knows every conceivable night spot you could possible want to go to. So if you like to party on the town she would be an asset. Also she can introduce you to tons of other women. If threesomes are your thing she is bi and can bring friends.
Escape Artist
03-18-18, 14:04
Haven't been to Colombia is years as I prefer lighter skin girls. I hear that recently there has been a wave of fair skin Venezuelan WGs in the past year. Is this rumor true?
SavePros321
03-18-18, 15:43
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SavePros321
03-18-18, 17:30
As for sending a car, my tip is to send it to a nearby landmark like restaurant or really anything that shows up near your chica's location on google maps. Uber has been having GPS challenges resolving street addresses the past 4 or 5 months. There are two sides to every story. You will encounter delays getting an uber at prime time rush hour (hora de pico). Those are the times it's more convenient to flag down a taxi.Appreciate the co-sign! And I never thought about that! Excellent advice because most likely the Uber driver is not just going to drive through the barrio to pick up a Chica right in front of her house like they would in the US, hahaha.
Haven't been to Colombia is years as I prefer lighter skin girls. I hear that recently there has been a wave of fair skin Venezuelan WGs in the past year. Is this rumor true?I can confirm there are lots of Venezuelans in Colombia (apparently more in Bogota, Bucaramanga, Cucuta for obvious reasons). What I can't confirm is that they are "fair-skinned" Venezuelans. I don't know if you're aware, but Colombia and Venezuela are very similar countries, including racial/ethnic mix (and it's a good one!).
Mr Enternational
03-19-18, 03:55
Haven't been to Colombia is years as I prefer lighter skin girls. I hear that recently there has been a wave of fair skin Venezuelan WGs in the past year. Is this rumor true?That is funny since it all used to be the same country. I don't think that someone drawing a line and calling part of it a different name would put the people so far off.
So you have been to Colombia and you think the girls are not light enough? My buddy has been to Medellin and he says the girls aren't dark enough. My girlfriend is Colombian and she is white as snow. I think some of y'all have been going to the wrong Colombia.
That is funny since it all used to be the same country. I don't think that someone drawing a line and calling part of it a different name would put the people so far off.
So you have been to Colombia and you think the girls are not light enough? My buddy has been to Medellin and he says the girls aren't dark enough. My girlfriend is Colombian and she is white as snow. I think some of y'all have been going to the wrong Colombia.Great answer, most gringos don't know the history of Colombia as it was originally under the same as New Granada which is made up of Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela, Bolivia and Panama. These are what was also called the Bolivians, after the independence from Spain lead by Simon Bolivar who is their great leader as to George Washington to the US. So it is kinda funny when you answered. Both Colombians and Venezuela are and call each other sister countries and so goes back to questions from guys about VZ girls who are as mentioned cut from the same cloth that they want to see what the difference is. I've been with both and only difference is that border.
Hasideas Tao
03-19-18, 16:14
She does look hotter naked then dressed (which is rare I think) but if you don't like tattoos she does have her whole back done. But from the front just a small one just above her bikini line.This girl looks very familiar. Used to work at Ejecutivo. Anyone else remember her from there?
Great answer, most gringos don't know the history of Colombia as it was originally under the same as New Granada which is made up of Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela, Bolivia and Panama.
Bolivia was never part of the Viceroyalty of New Granada. First, like all the others (except parts of coastal Venezuela), it was part of the Viceroyalty of Perú. Then it became part of the Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata, not the Viceroyalty of New Granada. I believe there were about 40 years between the establishment of the Viceroyalty of Grenada and the Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata, with the former being first. I can tell you off the top of my head that the latter was created in the same year as the Declaration of Independence for the United States, 1776. New Granada was early to mid XVIII century. Bolivia still had a coastline back in those days.
Great answer, most gringos don't know the history of Colombia as it was originally under the same as New Granada which is made up of Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela, Bolivia and Panama. These are what was also called the Bolivians, after the independence from Spain lead by Simon Bolivar who is their great leader as to George Washington to the US. So it is kinda funny when you answered. Both Colombians and Venezuela are and call each other sister countries and so goes back to questions from guys about VZ girls who are as mentioned cut from the same cloth that they want to see what the difference is. I've been with both and only difference is that border.And out of those five countries, Colombia and Venezuela are (by far) the most similar as far as racial / ethnic mixes and appearance of the women. If one doesn't like the stereotypical Colombian look, he isn't going to like the Venezuelan look and vice versa. This isn't to say there's no variation in looks / complexion within each country. There absolutely is. One can find fair-complexioned Colombianas y Venezuelanas and one can find very dark girls in both countries. But on average, they are very, very similar.
Bolivia was never part of the Viceroyalty of New Granada. First, like all the others (except parts of coastal Venezuela), it was part of the Viceroyalty of Per. Then it became part of the Viceroyalty of the Ro de la Plata, not the Viceroyalty of New Granada. I believe there were about 40 years between the establishment of the Viceroyalty of Grenada and the Viceroyalty of the Ro de la Plata, with the former being first. I can tell you off the top of my head that the latter was created in the same year as the Declaration of Independence for the United States, 1776. New Granada was early to mid XVIII century. Bolivia still had a coastline back in those days.It was Peru that was part of the Vice Royalty. I had included Bolivia due to Simon Bolivar's quest to liberate the spanish colonies from Spain.
It was Peru that was part of the Vice Royalty. I had included Bolivia due to Simon Bolivar's quest to liberate the spanish colonies from Spain.
Well, no, not really. The vast majority of what is now Perú remained in the Viceroyalty of Lima. Some of what is now Perú, but was then Ecuador, went to New Granada but that is a very small portion of what is now Perú. The initial separation of the Viceroyalty of New Granada from the Viceroyalty of Lima in the early XVIII century was primarily present day Colombia, Venezuela, and Ecuador. Later, Panamá, which eventually became part of Colombia, was brought into the Viceroyalty of New Granada. If I recall correctly, it also contained parts of what are now Brazil and Suriname. This was all part of the reforms instituted by the Bourbon Dynasty when the Viceroyalty of Lima became too unwieldy because of growth in the colonies. Eventually there were four viceroyalties before it all went to shit: Lima, New Granada, Río de la Plata, and New Spain (México and Central América); Panamá had been part of New Spain but was eventually incorporated into New Granada, becoming part of Colombia. The respective capitals were Lima, Bogotá, Buenos Aires, and México City. Obviously the Viceroyalty of Lima, and the city of Lima, saw its influence diminish when the two new viceroyalties of New Granada and Río de la Plata were created.
'Argento' means silver in Italian and 'plata,' of course, means silver in Spanish. So the Río de la Plata, which runs in the estuary at Buenos Aires, got its name not because Argentina was a main producer of silver, but because the river was used to SHIP silver from Perú and Bolivia. Some pompous cocksucker from Yale was trying to tell me a few months back that Argentina was so named because of all the silver mines there. No. There were and are a few silver mines in northwestern Argentina but most of the silver at this time was coming from Potosí in Bolivia. That is where Spain had its mint. Fucken Ivy League twerp. Prior to becoming a separate viceroyalty, the area that roughly became New Granada was a subdivision of the Viceroyalty of Lima and was known as Tierra Firme.
One man's canela is another's caramela, another's morena, and still another's blanquita. I tend to zero in on the color they all share. Pink.
That is funny since it all used to be the same country. I don't think that someone drawing a line and calling part of it a different name would put the people so far off.
So you have been to Colombia and you think the girls are not light enough? My buddy has been to Medellin and he says the girls aren't dark enough. My girlfriend is Colombian and she is white as snow. I think some of y'all have been going to the wrong Colombia.
As far as racial / ethnics of Colombians and Venezuelans goes, its the basic people of Spanish, indigineous (Indian), Afro-black mix. Some people in some areas look pure Spanish; other people look to be pure indigineous and others pure black. But there has been so much inter-racial mixing some people look to be of obvious mix of some part of those groups.
Escape Artist
03-19-18, 19:47
Thank you guys. My preconceptions come from the fact that Venezuela has historically been a more affluent country than Colombia and recent history has shown that the more affluent populations have also been the more fair skin people. Also the Venezuelens I know who immigrated to the United States are very fair compared to my Colombian friends.
I also found a bit of variety in complexion between Meddelin, Cali, and Cartagena. I have a work trip to Bagota in May and will see how much has changed in 10 years!
I can confirm there are lots of Venezuelans in Colombia (apparently more in Bogota, Bucaramanga, Cucuta for obvious reasons). What I can't confirm is that they are "fair-skinned" Venezuelans. I don't know if you're aware, but Colombia and Venezuela are very similar countries, including racial/ethnic mix (and it's a good one!).
That is funny since it all used to be the same country. I don't think that someone drawing a line and calling part of it a different name would put the people so far off.
So you have been to Colombia and you think the girls are not light enough? My buddy has been to Medellin and he says the girls aren't dark enough. My girlfriend is Colombian and she is white as snow. I think some of y'all have been going to the wrong Colombia.
And out of those five countries, Colombia and Venezuela are (by far) the most similar as far as racial / ethnic mixes and appearance of the women. If one doesn't like the stereotypical Colombian look, he isn't going to like the Venezuelan look and vice versa. This isn't to say there's no variation in looks / complexion within each country. There absolutely is. One can find fair-complexioned Colombianas y Venezuelanas and one can find very dark girls in both countries. But on average, they are very, very similar.
The CIA Factbook on countries describes the racial / ethnic mix of Colombia as such (there words): Mestizo and White 84%, Afro-Colombian 10%, Amerindian 3. 4%.
This girl looks very familiar. Used to work at Ejecutivo. Anyone else remember her from there?She has worked at Fase II at least since I met her there early Sept last year and didn't see her at Barra Ejectiva in March '17 or June '17. I'll ask her next time we WhatsApp.
She lives in Rio Negro.
Haven't been to Colombia is years as I prefer lighter skin girls. I hear that recently there has been a wave of fair skin Venezuelan WGs in the past year. Is this rumor true?Just how light skin are you looking for, my girlie from Fase II is fairly fair I think and so is my SA sweetie Sofie, and even my street girlie Sarah.
Haven't been to Colombia is years as I prefer lighter skin girls. I hear that recently there has been a wave of fair skin Venezuelan WGs in the past year. Is this rumor true?The 2 Venezuelan girls I have met in Medellin, neither were super fair skinned, but not very dark either: (Tiffany from Yakusa and Rachel who is 5'11" from Maracaibo).
The CIA Factbook on countries describes the racial / ethnic mix of Colombia as such (there words): Mestizo and White 84%, Afro-Colombian 10%, Amerindian 3. 4%.
Well, there is a heck of a lot of difference anywhere in LatAm between being 'mestizo' and being 'white,' or 'criollo. ' So by combining those two categories, the CIA Factbook shows that they don't know shit from apple butter. Furthermore, they are way underestimating the indigenous percentage, because they don't know where or how to find all those people. The CIA has been working hand in glove with fascist LatAm governments to exterminate those people for a very long time, so they tend not to stand up and be counted. The 'CIA Factbook' is disgraceful, mendacious propaganda.
To summarize, the CIA 'Fact' Book is a crock of shit.
As far as racial / ethnics of Colombians and Venezuelans goes, its the basic people of Spanish, indigineous (Indian), Afro-black mix. Some people in some areas look pure Spanish; other people look to be pure indigineous and others pure black. But there has been so much inter-racial mixing some people look to be of obvious mix of some part of those groups.It goes beyond that. The indigenous peoples in Colombia and Venezuela were different from those in say Bolivia, Peru, Mexico, etc. My guess is that they were a more attractive people.
And the Africans brought to various regions of the Americas were also from different parts of the Mother Continent. The mix in Venezuela and Colombia is a particularly good mix. I'd put Brasil to that group also. Although the mix is a bit different - even more diverse.
Well, there is a heck of a lot of difference anywhere in LatAm between being 'mestizo' and being 'white,' or 'criollo. ' So by combining those two categories, the CIA Factbook shows that they don't know shit from apple butter. Furthermore, they are way underestimating the indigenous percentage, because they don't know where or how to find all those people. The CIA has been working hand in glove with fascist LatAm governments to exterminate those people for a very long time, so they tend not to stand up and be counted. The 'CIA Factbook' is disgraceful, mendacious propaganda.
To summarize, the CIA 'Fact' Book is a crock of shit.Totally agree with you on the "CIA FACT BOOK". A few years ago I was going to West Africa a couple times a year and the 'CIA FACT BOOK" was chocked full of straight up bullshit concerning West Africa. My theory is that the CIA doesn't want people traveling and discovering fantastic alternatives to the plantation (I. E. "1st world" countries).
The CIA is an international terrorist organization run by a bunch of high end thugs, with no oversight or accountability. But we should take any further discussion to Chit Chat so as not to interfere with pussy.
Well, no, not really. The vast majority of what is now Per remained in the Viceroyalty of Lima. Some of what is now Per, but was then Ecuador, went to New Granada but that is a very small portion of what is now Per. The initial separation of the Viceroyalty of New Granada from the Viceroyalty of Lima in the early XVIII century was primarily present day Colombia, Venezuela, and Ecuador. Later, Panam, which eventually became part of Colombia, was brought into the Viceroyalty of New Granada. If I recall correctly, it also contained parts of what are now Brazil and Suriname. This was all part of the reforms instituted by the Bourbon Dynasty when the Viceroyalty of Lima became too unwieldy because of growth in the colonies. Eventually there were four viceroyalties before it all went to shit: Lima, New Granada, Ro de la Plata, and New Spain (Mxico and Central Amrica); Panam had been part of New Spain but was eventually incorporated into New Granada, becoming part of Colombia. The respective capitals were Lima, Bogot, Buenos Aires, and Mxico City. Obviously the Viceroyalty of Lima, and the city of Lima, saw its influence diminish when the two new viceroyalties of New Granada and Ro de la Plata were created.
'Argento' means silver in Italian and 'plata,' of course, means silver in Spanish. So the Ro de la Plata, which runs in the estuary at Buenos Aires, got its name not because Argentina was a main producer of silver, but because the river was used to SHIP silver from Per and Bolivia. Some pompous cocksucker from Yale was trying to tell me a few months back that Argentina was so named because of all the silver mines there. No. There were and are a few silver mines in northwestern Argentina but most of the silver at this time was coming from Potos in Bolivia. That is where Spain had its mint. Fucken Ivy League twerp. Prior to becoming a separate viceroyalty, the area that roughly became New Granada was a subdivision of the Viceroyalty of Lima and was known as Tierra Firme.I'm going to have to go back to Santa Marta where the final resting place of Simon Bolivar is and demand a refund on that damn tour I took back in 2014. Tour guide should have been more clearer on his facts. Looks like Dickhead is the residential Colombian historian. No arguments from me. LOL
Delta Indigo
03-20-18, 12:08
First of all thank you to all of you who have endeavored to enlighten us. Having lived in various places around the world, I know you are right and certain preconceptions about skin tone are usually not valid at all.
And all the evidence I have seen, never having been to either country, is that if anything Colombian girls are on average somewhat more attractive. However more than a handful of people who have traveled extensively in Latin America, swear to me that Venezuelan girls are on average quite a big more attractive than Colombian girls.
When I asked one of them to justify this opinion, he pointed out that Venezuela had far more people of Italian ancestry than Colombia and that was his explanatory variable, I am talking about beauty and not skin tone, this is what I want to explicitly clarify, we admirers of beauty know it occurs throughout the visible spectrum. The relatively high Italian ancestry does occur in Argentina too, and that might be what some people consider very attractive, when I ask observers to articulate what they find particularly attractive about Argentine girls, they are usually at a loss for words.
So two questions.
Does anyone agree that Venezuelan girls generally outshine Colombian girls?
Do you think Italian ancestry has anything to do with it?
So two questions.
Does anyone agree that Venezuelan girls generally outshine Colombian girls?
Do you think Italian ancestry has anything to do with it?I've recently been to Cucuta and sat at the border between VZ an CO just to people watch as VZ walk back and forth to buy goods. I can tell you I could rarely tell the difference unless pointed out to by the locals in Cucuta in looks. As far as service this comes to playing dice unless you have a connection with the girl so throw that out the door. I even have a GF from VZ and I can't tell if other than a slight accent in her spanish. Most guys on this thread talk about the service and will agree that MDE including other colombians outside of MDE is to p4 p. And rant about the experience both good and bad. I, from my experience with girls outside of MDE and datiing a VZ I can tell you that I prefer girls from outside of MDE due to experience. As far as ancestry, I think that goes to one's perspective on what is beauty. Take a look at Brazilian actress Morena Baccarin, she has italian blood mixed in her and I think her beauty is fantastic. I think genetics / health and how one takes care of their body has more to do with it than just bloodline alone.
I find venezolans more attractive than colombianas and in fact think venezolanas are the most beautiful in LatAm. I do not know if the Italian factors in. I do not find Italian women to be particularly attractive since I am not too into mustaches. I think, in my case, it is because I am allergic to silicone. Colombianas are kind of b!tchy in my opinion, so that might factor in. There are a lot of venezolanas hooking here in Spain, and not that many colombianas. So that works out for me.
First of all thank you to all of you who have endeavored to enlighten us. Having lived in various places around the world, I know you are right and certain preconceptions about skin tone are usually not valid at all.
And all the evidence I have seen, never having been to either country, is that if anything Colombian girls are on average somewhat more attractive. However more than a handful of people who have traveled extensively in Latin America, swear to me that Venezuelan girls are on average quite a big more attractive than Colombian girls.
When I asked one of them to justify this opinion, he pointed out that Venezuela had far more people of Italian ancestry than Colombia and that was his explanatory variable, I am talking about beauty and not skin tone, this is what I want to explicitly clarify, we admirers of beauty know it occurs throughout the visible spectrum. The relatively high Italian ancestry does occur in Argentina too, and that might be what some people consider very attractive, when I ask observers to articulate what they find particularly attractive about Argentine girls, they are usually at a loss for words.
So two questions.
Does anyone agree that Venezuelan girls generally outshine Colombian girls?
Do you think Italian ancestry has anything to do with it?The truth is, both countries have stunning, beautiful women.
They also both have ugly women.
As to which girls outshine the other, is all a matter of individual taste.
Who really cares what other guys think of the beauty of certain girls.
Most guys, even the so called experts, probably couldn't differentiate them in a mixed lineup.
Your own opinion is all that counts.
I have lived in both countries.
Caracas was my spot before Chavez became the Prez, and even for a little afterwards.
Then Colombia.
The truth is, both countries have both good, bad, beautiful, and ugly women, and all in between.
Just enjoy!
Mr Enternational
03-20-18, 18:52
Most guys, even the so called experts, probably couldn't differentiate them in a mixed lineup.I could. Venezuelans have big foreheads.
The truth is, both countries have both good, bad, beautiful, and ugly women, and all in between.That is the bottom line and true of every country.
Just Incognito
03-21-18, 02:30
A few weeks ago- Early February just after the super bowl-I was in Medellin for the 9th time in 5 years. I like the city. For me it's easy to get to, offers good food options, and of course: hot chicks without a heavy price.
This trip I stayed in Poblado at a hotel near Centro Comercial Santa Fe.
Day 1: I message a girl I met at the Mansion 2-3 years back. We message every now and again through Facebook or Whatsapp-and she is usually my '1st' on each trip to Medellin. Spinner hottie who is an 8 out of 10 with a great vibe. Except for the baby scarring on the belly--so, with the belly covered: everything else is great. I ask her to bring me about 100 k worth of 420. I then go over to the mall and by a nice glass water filtration system at the store that sells items including grow kits since medicine is pretty much legal there. Chica shows up only about 10-15 minutes 'late' because of some traffic--no complaints.
My hotel checks ID and registers all girls at the reception. Then they call to ask if I want her to come up. There is no charge--until 10 pm. After 10 pm, even if it is for 3 minutes, for all guests -not including food delivery-there is a 35 dollar or so charge--so, that's fair.
She looks good. A little skinnier than last time, but good enough. She also hands me 6 baggies of weed probably equating to over an ounce, maybe 1. 5 ounces of pretty good stuff. Not quite the best from California--but pretty close--I was surprised and more than happy! 30 ish bucks and I am well over stocked now and I have gifts for other girls! I gave her 100 k for that and told her she could keep one of the baggies as a thanks. We sit on the balcony & crack open a bottle of wine, puff, and chat for a bit. No rush, old friends catching up. I speak Spanish almost fluently, not quite--but close! And it does help A LOT in Medellin! I always bring my laptop with a bluetooth speaker for music. So, we have weed, wine and tunes on a nice day with a hot chick. Its now about 3 PM and we're on the balcony. She gets up to go to the bathroom, then gets some water--comes back and straddles me, sitting on my lap-we start making out-and I starting waking up.
To the shower we go--just don't get her hair wet! --they never look as good with a shower cap on!
Anyway, she sits on this little sitting spot in the shower and starts with a nice BBBJ-with hot water spraying and 2 shower heads both going at the same time--1 is the disabled persons shower, on her back, with the main one on mine. A few minutes go by- and its off to the bed. Good sex-but, its my 1st nut on this trip and I have saved up a load I want her to see--so, I ask her to take the condom off and start blowing me again--she complies-and I shoot my load in her mouth and on her face-good times! Back to the shower, clean up, some more wine, a little chocolate and back to the balcony to chill. Its now been about 2. 5 maybe even 3 hours since she arrived. Its kinda dark, and she asks me if I want her to stay for another round--but, I am emptied out--so I say, no, you should go be with your kid and family. I put 200 k on the counter, and another 40 k for her taxis and a small propina-a 15 dollar or so bottle of wine I bought earlier in the day at the supermarket. She is happy. I am happy. I call downstairs, have the hotel call her a taxi, and when they call the room to tell me the taxi is here-I walk her to the elevator and send her on her way. No viagara needed. Good time. Like reuniting with an old girlfriend for one last one-off.
Then, I head off to Taco House for a burrito followed by a stroll around Poblado. Back to the room around 830 maybe 9. Chill on the balcony and call it an early evening while streaming some stuff online--great internet!
Day 2: wake up, motivate, and walk about 15-20 minutes to the Aquacatala metro stop. I navigate my way over to the Escalares part of town--where the escalators go up the mountains and there are murals and art everywhere--interesting scene. Some great views of the city at the top. Then back over and across to another cable car I didn't even know existed. After a some time of random exploration, I take the Metro to Prado (and walk around Botero plaza a bit. I check out the street mid-afternoon street action moving fast and with purpose I felt safe and find my way into one of the strip bars--dead. 2 fat chicks and not much happening. Its a place just right on the outskirts of the plaza. I walk up the same block and right next to the lame strip bar is another one, I think, Barra Ejecutiva? But am not 100% sure. I remember walking down (or was it up?) some stairs, and into a typical looking strip bar--the moment I get to the main room, right in front of me as if placed by god herself is a true and totally perfect 10! Holy shit! Yes! This chick is Hot Hot Hot. We make eye contact, I walk over and say Hi. 30 seconds later we walk through the bar-like literally through the actual bar, and into a small back changing room, then up some stairs, past a couple of mediocre looking girls and into a room that is MUCH nicer than I thought it would be--shower, window overlooking the plaza and a clean looking space--fairly impressed I was! Chica asks me for her 60 k- I let her know: 'con su boca, sin condom por favor!' She smiles and asks for 10 k mas. No problemo! She leads me to the shower and washes me down, plays with my nuts, and cleans me up. She even soaps up her hand gets behind me and starts stroking my rock hard dick from behind--as she sticks her finger in my ass--I say bueno-me gusta-and tell her she can play with me any way she wants. She then turns me around and kisses me like this is our wedding night-I somewhat reflexively pull back-thinking: she might have some other dudes cum in her mouth LOL. Shower off, towel on, and to the bed:
She then says she was away for a while and is back doing this for the 1st time in a long time. Claims she is in school and she has another job and used to do this, but just started back up--and I am her 1st in a long time.
Now, we all know these chicks lie lie lie lie. Like trump-lie lie lie lie. So, I say,. Yeah, sure. No need for stories. I'm yours do what you want with me! She says, no its true, and then grabs her phone to show me pics of her at her other actual job--wearing a bright green / yellow vest and patrolling the streets during some street fair or something-she claims it was from the day before-who knows??
Anyway, she pushes me down onto the bed where she does a really really hot lap dance. Intense. Like she was really into it. I was! My dick almost ends up inside her pussy without a rubber a couple of times while she grinds me and puts her tits in my mouth. The sight of her grinding on me almost naked and totally naked--damm! So hot! On her knees, blow job--I am already ready to pop-so I tell her to slow down--she looks up--and says, 'dame su leche dos veces' I say--well, I wih but I will need some time--she says--its early, its quiet, she likes me, don't worry 30 k mas, and we have time. Then she blows me and takes it all in her mouth within 2-3 minutes. I just couldn't hold out and I shoot my load into her mouth. She takes it like a pro! WOW!
She jumps up, spits it out in the bathroom sink, pulls a toothbrush from her little purse, brushes, and comes and cleans me up with a small towel while brushing her teeth HA! Too funny, and somehow she made toothbrushing sexy. LOL. I get up and wash my hands, rinse with mouthwash, wipe off with a baby wipe and get back to bed- we then cuddle and kiss a bit-no tongue, lots of body rubbing--GFE type stuff. I give her a massage while kissing her & my arms wrap around to her back and work her over for a bit-and she melts--I got skills! She flips over onto her back, I massage her legs, arms and neck--then chest, I put a condom on my fingers while standing next to this beautiful epic perfect 10 who is looking at me, and totally relaxed. And start fingering her and stroking her clit with my thumb with my other hand under her neck supporting her--just admiring this beautiful site. She is turned on! There is no way she is faking-after a few minutes, she pulls me in close and starts sucking my semi soft dick while she comes and deep throats me. I can feel her pussy contractions with my fingers deep inside her--she was wet, creamy, hot and maybe 19 or 20. Thank you universe! My dick in her mouth while she comes gets me more than hard so I put a condom on, climb on top missionary start fucking her slow and deep. Kissing, pumping, sucking on perfect tits. Glorious! Boom. We come together. Hard, and faster than I thought I could. In her pussy with a condom on. With rare ease for a 2nd round! Usually round 2 must be sans rubber. So, kudos to hottie stripper chick.
I pull out, she grabs some paper towels and takes the rubber off me. Quick shower, kiss, and then she asks if I am happy- umm-obviously!
I hand her 130 k (60 original agreed upon amount, 10 for BBBJ, and 30 for 2nd pop +30 more for propina / time-she deserved it!) She's happy, we trade whatsapp and she says she hopes I want to see her soon--I tell her: whatever she wants I am down! This girl looks a lot like the porn star Melanie Rios-just with near perfect teeth. By now, its getting darker, almost dusk. And I walk fast over to the metro to Poblado station on the train I am in 'I can't believe that just happened' mode. She was so hot and that was so easy and cheap and good. Happy. I walk over to an Indian restaurant I really like, Zaika and have a great meal!
Walk back to the hotel--about 10 drizzly minutes away. Shower, chill, internent, call it a night.
Day 3: I wake up at like 4 AM and see 4 whatsapp message alerts on my phone. Messages are from the strip club chick wondering where I am and if I want to see her. That was quick. She's sent me messages at 230 and just after 300--I'm am guessing she wanted to come to my hotel instead of going 'home' or wherever a stripper goes at 4 am or so. Slow night I guess since she was looking for more work.
Back to sleep without answering, wake up at 8 ish, breakfast, and over to Olviedo Mall for a little people watching. Chat up a cute spinner girl, late 20's, selling the most amazing donuts of all time at a small kiosk-we trade whatsapp, and I hope she'll respond when I reach out to her. (she didn't! LOL).
Early afternoon, maybe 1 or so, back to the hotel. I send a message through Facebook to a friend of my Mansion girl from the 1st day. (when 1st girl was at the hotel room, I showed her a picture of this girl who was in her facebook friends list that looked hot--she gave a solid recommendation-and warned me to avoid a few others.) within 30 minutes of sending the message I get a reply. The message I sent in Spanish was basically: I saw your picture on FB and saw we had a mutual friend, I asked her about you-and, well, how soon could we meet? You're beautiful and I'm sure we'll have fun. ' she replied with a Hello, where are you. I responded the Google maps link form the hotel website of where I was. She says she come to my hotel at 4 PM. I remind her to bring her cedula. She messages me at 3 pm-she's going to be late. So, I go over to Santa Fe mall to people watch and kill some time. 445 pm-girl texts me that she will be at my hotel in 10 minutes. I bust it fast back to the hotel, to meet her outside--just in case the pics weren't accurate enough and I wasn't a fan, better to just send her away with some taxi money and a 20 k apology than to let someone I am not into up to the room.
She arrives, Andre Ramirez is her name on Facebook.
Beautiful girl. Perfect face. Pictures do no justice. Great body--except for the baby damage on the belly. But her face makes up for it!
I saw another review that kinda trashed her- why? She was good to me! Though, she is def. An experienced hooker for a young one! I think she is 22 ish This girl did some good work for me, was fair, compliant, well worth it--and def. Deserves props! To each their own I guess YMMV?
After hangin' out for a bit, catching a buzz, splitting a bottle of wine etc. Off to the races we go. (only drawback: she was a tobacco cigarette smoker--but I had toothpaste and mouthwash ready for her).
Great service! After a decent BBBJ we fucked-not bad-though not the best lay of my trip-I told her I wanted to cum in her mouth- no problem- she sucks it really well. I cum in her mouth-a big load-she really had me going-and she kept going- post cum, no stop! BONUS! She was sitting on my bed, bent at the waist, legs spread while she played with herself, with me standing in front of her while she was sitting up, head on the 'headboard' still sucking-and sucking- until I came again! Yup! Holy grail kinda stuff: blow me until I cum in your mouth, swallow it all, and keep my dick in your mouth, and hard- until I cum again. Nice. Thanks generic Viagra! No complaints at all! Showers, small talk, pay, good-bye.
She was at my place for about 3 hours I gave her 300 plus 20 k taxi. Pricey? A bit-but still: 115 bucks. Double cum, massive intense release, convenient, and referred by a trusted paisa so less risk. And a nice time. Works for me.
Shower, chill, walk to lleras, dinner near lleras, chat with a few street hookers in lleras: but nothing worth considering. Back to room: sleep.
Day 4: Walked to the zoo in the morning-took about an hour plus with some breakfast time along the way at some random place. Zoo was fun. Worth checking out.
Taxi back to poblado: walking toward lleras I see a sign on a wall on a corner 2 blocks from lleras. Its a massage place-I vaguely remember from a few years before. So, I check it out: 3 girls. They wanted 10 k just to see the 3 girls-I laughed and started to leave-chick stops me and shows me them anyway: 1 in each of 3 different rooms: 1 fat light skinned girl, one fat black chick, and 1 7. 5/10 hottie with a tight petite body small A cup titties and good enough teeth. I'll take that one! Mamasan (for lack of a better word) asked for 150 k, I said, never mind-girl says, okay 120 k for the hour- all included. I go to a room, girl comes in tells me to get naked, hands me a robe and slippers and leads me to a shower-quick wash-back to the room, on the table 1/2 decent massage with some ball teasing and some strokes on between my cheeks, teasing my asshole a bit. Flip: immediately starts playing with my balls. While I play with her fantastic ass. MMMMM that ass was sexy as can be! She reaches for condom & I rub my hand up her leg, and give a slight slap on her ass, she looks at me-and I make it obvious: No condom. She says propina-I say no worries, I will take care of her. She starts sucking without the condom. GREAT ball action. Really sucking my nuts. Then she motions for us to fuck, I wave her off and tell her I am enjoying the blowjob too much. I push her head down my cock and hold her head strongly as she deep throats. After a few minutes I cum in her mouth-she spits it right out: right into a towel that was on the floor. I say don't stop: she gets back to it for a little bit, then just starts playing with my balls and semi hard dick. Its done. I had some baby wipe type things I always have with me to help clean up quick and give her 20 k propina. Go grab a meal near Lleras, and back to hotel. Shower rest. Very very very good ball sucking action left a nice memory. No Viagra needed.
Day 5: taxi to New Life and arrive as they open. 10 am or 11 am can't remember. Line-up: not impressed. Mamasan says come back in 30 minutes, 3 more girls coming in. I go take a walk around the neighborhood and return exactly 30 minutes later. 3 girls come out, 1 at a time-- last girl: we lock eyes. Honestly just about the most beautiful girl in the world. Sexiest, hottest, most perfect looking girl I have ever seen in a casa. This girl doesn't belong there! She belongs in my bed. 22, tight, clean, some tats, otherwise: Bingo! Think Colombian Jenna Haze. Her name was 'Jennifer' but they all change their names every shift LOL. Most of the names arent real. Somehow, even hotter than the strip club chick. 5'2? Maybe 10-105 pounds? All natural be / see cups and great happy energy. Youthful. Fresh. 1 hour plus a few minutes: all good. I came 1 time in her mouth. Don't remember the cost but it was well worth it! Good sex. Nice long sexy shower hand job with light kissing. Great attention to my nuts: sucked on them a while as I played with her very clean smelling and looking pussy. Followed by some sex and then the finish in her mouth. She was fun. We trade contact info on whatsapp and I bail and find a taxi on the corner to take me to Poblado.
While eating at a restaurant I message strip club girl 'I've been thinking of you. I want you, where are you?' She tells me she can come to my hotel at 11 pm: I'm like, no, its only 2 in the afternoon-I don't want to wait. Now or never. She tells me 5 pm. She ends up at my hotel at 630 pm almost 7. She messages me en route, 10 minutes away. So I pop a generic vitamin V, go down and meet her outside to pay her taxi. Register with her cedula. We go up together--hotel guy seems impressed! I have to back her off from kissing me in the elevator--there are cameras and I want to be discrete and respectful to the hotel.
GREAT time in the room. We agree she will stay until 10 pm (helps me avoid the hotel guest fee and probably gets her to some other guy or a strip club at the right time) and I will give her, food, weed, wine, 250 plus 25 for her taxi away. Works for me. Gentleman: this was a good time. After some hanging out, and a quick, don't get the hair wet not much happening shower, she sits me on the couch naked, and gets dressed in her sexy bikini lingerie that was under her clothes. And gives me like 20-30 minutes of the most intense, sexy, close lap dance teasing I could imagine. What an ass! OMG! She would just slide my shaft between her cheeks, teasing and teasing. And was just awesome. What a body! She titty fucked me, BBBJ, sucking while upside down so I could play with her pussy, lots of passionate kissing and neck kisses, more grinding until finally she takes me to the bed. We fucked in every position known to man, and a few new ones LOL. I had cum a bunch on this trip and already earlier in the day, so I was taking a long time--lots of fucking.
I did take some generic Viagra which I don't need to take but its fun--so I was extra hard for this! I wore her out. And kept going. She came several times: went from open mouth kisses with a little tongue to sucking my tongue out of my mouth while she was coming intensely. I got some stomach muscle cramps from so much moving. LOL (true) Finally, she pulls me out, wipes me with a baby wipe and a damp cloth and proceeds with the 'dame su leche' and sucks me off until I cum in her mouth-I cum huge. Intense. She spits it into a towel and since I am still Viagra hard, gets back to sucking. And sucking. And sucking. Then she comes up to kiss me and starts just playing with my dick in her hands--until when she can tell I am getting close--back to sucking. Until I cum again! Woo-hoo--awesome. We hang for a bit, after a while she starts teasing me: but my dick is done, its comatose. She leaves around 930. I thank her, and give her the $ all good. I'm spent. Another one I would marry for a few weeks if she wasn't a working girl. She says her pussy is sore. I tell her to have a nice night. LOL.
Day 6: no action: just went to museo de agua, and to a vegan place for lunch that was good. Walked around. Another taco house dinner. Not much happening chill day. Text each of the girls I had already been with the exact same message. 'thinking of you and happy for our time together. I hope you want to see me soon. ' They all message back with some form of any time, amor. I also checked tinder and messaged with some chicks, but decided not t pull the trigger with any of them. There are def. Escorts with hot pics on tinder. Who knows what actually shows up at the door. A couple of them sent me their whatsapp then they sent me pics of themselves and or other chicks through whatsapp. Seems pretty easy to set up action through tinder. But, day 6 was a day of rest for me.
Day 7: I message Andre Ramirez in the morning. 2 hours later, she replies and says she can come by at 4. 200 K for about 2 hours. I didn't feel like fucking her-so, after we hung out a bit, I laid on the bed on my back and told her to do anything she wanted to me-that didn't involve a condom on my dick. She jerked and sucked me, kissed me passionately on the mouth-stared at me with her incredible eyes, turned me on and exploded me- all over her-with an enthusiastic yet slow and fun handy / blowy session--kind of edging me for a while. She def. Put in a solid effort and it felt great! Though, I did like her more the 1st time. She said she was heading to the Mansion at 6, while I ordered in a pizza and stayed in the room watching sports on my computer.
Day 8: I message New Life girl at 8 am. She responds at 930, tells me she can be at my place at 11-I say perfect. I am waiting. The hotel reception calls me to send her up just after 1230 pm. She left at 6:30 ish PM. I came 4 times. The sex was amazing. It really felt like true love making on a honeymoon. (not that I really know what that is-I am not stupid enough to ever get married!) she was the only girl I ate out. I generally resist hooker pussy in my mouth-but this one was just too tempting. A perfect pussy. This girl never had a kid, and def. Works out a lot. Such a fit and healthy and sexy body. Pretty much perfect. Un sueno! I couldn't resist. She was fresh, clean, def. New to this and just too damm sexy! Delicious tasty and tight. I came once in her pussy, once in her mouth without a condom, once in her hands and on her tits / face, and and once on her ass after fucking her doggy. She said no to anal. And was the only one I wanted to fuck in the ass all trip. S hot! She came more times than me.
Another: If she wasn't a working girl I would marry her for a few weeks. I really would have loved to have been able to fuck her bareback--but I ain't stooooopid! -we have messaged since. She asked to come visit me. I said she is welcome to come, but she has to buy her own ticket. Once here, I will cover anything she needs for up to 2 weeks. She claims she is saving the money. We'll see if she actually saves the money and buys HR own plane tixx like a normal person would. If she makes that effort, then cool, I'll play along. If not. Whatever. I'll hit her up in July when I return.
With this girl: I took a double dose of the generic stuff when the hotel guy called to ask if she could come up to my room- and then 2-3 hours later, 2 more. I don't need it. And didn't take it with each girl--but, I wanted this to be bliss. And it does make it all more intense. We also polished off some smoke and 2 bottles of wine and some food I had in the room. I gave her some nugs for the road. Money was never mentioned until the final goodbyes when I said are you happy with 250 plus txi money-and she gladly smiled. And didn't ask for anything else. Just easy. Nice. 6 hours for 250 COP plus 20 k taxi with one of the sexiest 20 ish year olds I could hope for and she is cool with that. Yes please. As she leaves, I say, wait, and give her 30 k more just because-she deserves it. She didn't even try to haggle or ask for more-and was really totally complaint and agreeable in every way all day. She gave a big hug and thanks and a kiss. And went on her way. Besides, 10 bucks to me is not really anything. Girl leaves in an uber. Shower, nap, buy food at 24 hour supermarket. Room. Chill sleep. My dick was done. Kinda sore-not std sore, but long hard workout sore. My stomach muscles are sore and cramping. Epic. I love Medellin and will be back for most of July and August.
Day 9: flight out of Medellin at 945 am to panama city and then onward.
And that my friends is most of the rest of the story.
I could. Venezuelans have big foreheads.
That is the bottom line and true of every country.So the girl with the big forehead is always the Venezuelan?
Wrong but actually funny, LOL.
BlueChange
03-21-18, 15:29
So the girl with the big forehead is always the Venezuelan?
Wrong but actually funny, LOL.I know what he means but its actually the Nose you can tell the difference really. THey have this sort of swooping up trinagle thing, they ususally get surgery but its before that.
Also, Venezuelans are much taller as well.
A few weeks ago- Early February just after the super bowl-I was in Medellin for the 9th time in 5 years. I like the city. For me it's easy to get to, offers good food options, and of course: hot chicks without a heavy price.Excellent report buddy. Felt like that we are in Medellin with you. Very detailed and enjoyed reading it.
I know what he means but its actually the Nose you can tell the difference really. THey have this sort of swooping up trinagle thing, they ususally get surgery but its before that.
Also, Venezuelans are much taller as well.Ok, the tall ones with big noses and foreheads.
Got it! LOL.
Samson Monger
03-21-18, 17:25
I know what he means but its actually the Nose you can tell the difference really. THey have this sort of swooping up trinagle thing, they ususally get surgery but its before that.
Also, Venezuelans are much taller as well.Yes, I agree with the taller and bigger noses. With the Italian ancestry, we can see why the Roman nose often shows up in a Venezuelan.
We are over generalizing a bit here.
I know what he means but its actually the Nose you can tell the difference really. THey have this sort of swooping up trinagle thing, they ususally get surgery but its before that.
Also, Venezuelans are much taller as well.
A few weeks ago- Early February just after the super bowl-I was in Medellin for the 9th time in 5 years. I like the city. For me it's easy to get to, offers good food options, and of course: hot chicks without a heavy price.
This trip I stayed in Poblado at a hotel near Centro Comercial Santa Fe.
Day 1: I message a girl I met at the Mansion 2-3 years back. We message every now and again through Facebook or Whatsapp-and she is usually my '1st' on each trip to Medellin. Spinner hottie who is an 8 out of 10 with a great vibe. Except for the baby scarring on the belly--so, with the belly covered: everything else is great. I ask her to bring me about 100 k worth of 420. I then go over to the mall and by a nice glass water filtration system at the store that sells items including grow kits since medicine is pretty much legal there. Chica shows up only about 10-15 minutes 'late' because of some traffic--no complaints.
My hotel checks ID and registers all girls at the reception. Then they call to ask if I want her to come up. There is no charge--until 10 pm. After 10 pm, even if it is for 3 minutes, for all guests -not including food delivery-there is a 35 dollar or so charge--so, that's fair..Which hotel did you stay in?
LivingFossil
03-22-18, 00:20
Hello fellow mongers,
I am looking to have a threesome, but most importantly with the girls going down on each other full lesbian which I am sure most girls won't do.
What would be the best way to find these unique girls? My Spanish is excellent.
Thanks.
The first thing you should do is secure your valuables. While you and your one dick busy with either of the girls, the other one can get into mischief. Any casa will let you pay extra for a second girl, as will any strip club or escort agency. My experience with lesbians is they don't tend to have much interest in sharing their girlfriends with a guy but I've known many hetereo providers who will pretend to be lesbians. I assume that is close enough. I hope it works out.
Hello fellow mongers,
I am looking to have a threesome, but most importantly with the girls going down on each other full lesbian which I am sure most girls won't do.
What would be the best way to find these unique girls? My Spanish is excellent.
Thanks.
Hello fellow mongers,
I am looking to have a threesome, but most importantly with the girls going down on each other full lesbian which I am sure most girls won't do.
What would be the best way to find these unique girls? My Spanish is excellent.
Thanks.Step 1- Come to Medellin and start meeting girls and building a list of contacts.
Step 2 - Any time you have a great session with a girl, tell her what you're looking for. Ask if she knows anyone to fill your request.
Step 3 - Experience disappointment when the girl who promises to provide what you want provides a very limited version.
Step 4 - Repeat step 3 until you either get tired of trying or until you succeed in your quest.
Or someone could give you the names of the girls he was with for a great 3 some. Of course there's no guarantee that only 1 of the girls will show, or 1 will bring a different girl, or 1 or both will be on their period, or you won't have any chemistry with either or they had an argument on the way to you and now don't want to do anything.
Hello fellow mongers,
I am looking to have a threesome, but most importantly with the girls going down on each other full lesbian which I am sure most girls won't do.
What would be the best way to find these unique girls? My Spanish is excellent.
Thanks.If your Spanish is excellent and your not looking for beauty queens, then your in luck. There are lesbians that work the streets in El Centro specifically adjacent to Iglesia De LA Veracruz on Calle 51- # 52-58. And if your also interested in transvestites, well there's a lot of them there as well.
Hello fellow mongers,
I am looking to have a threesome, but most importantly with the girls going down on each other full lesbian which I am sure most girls won't do.
What would be the best way to find these unique girls? My Spanish is excellent.
Thanks.First thing, try each girl individually to see how you get along with them. If you have good chemistry with each one individually, you're more likely to have good chemistry with all of you together. If course, you also need to talk with them to ascertain if they legitimately like pussy. Many will say they do when they don't. Your language ability should help. And the more time you have on the ground, the better.
IMO if you want really good three-some experiences, you should go to Brasil. They girls are, on average, more wild and more likely to really be bisexual.
Mr Enternational
03-22-18, 17:12
First thing, try each girl individually to see how you get along with them. If you have good chemistry with each one individually, you're more likely to have good chemistry with all of you together. If course, you also need to talk with them to ascertain if they legitimately like pussy. Many will say they do when they don't. Your language ability should help. And the more time you have on the ground, the better.Man y'all put too much thought into this shit. It is simple. Grab 2 broads and ask them if they will eat each other out. If not, replace the one that will not. Go fuck them. Pay them. Then go on about your business. No need to waste money and time fucking them separately and looking for chemistry. Not like you are looking to spend a lifetime with either of them.
Man y'all put too much thought into this shit. It is simple. Grab 2 broads and ask them if they will eat each other out. If not, replace the one that will not. Go fuck them. Pay them. Then go on about your business. No need to waste money and time fucking them separately and looking for chemistry. Not like you are looking to spend a lifetime with either of them.Actually in Colombia, for a good threesome, I've needed thought / planning as I described. I'm talking about where the girls are enthusiastic about eating pussy, fingering each other, etc. Chicas will frequently say they'll eat each other, but when it comes "down" to it, they barely put their mouth there to fake it. I'm guessing the OP is looking for an enthusiastic performance. And with his language proficiency he can ensure that goal.
Now in Brasil, your odds are actually decent just picking two random girls and having them interact enthusiastically. But since he's going to Colombia, I think a bit of strategy would behoove him.
Just Incognito
03-22-18, 23:12
Which hotel did you stay in?I don't want to be too specific and mess up a good thing or say much more than I have for privacy and risk for flooding the place with people bringing chicks and then doing something stupid so they tighten up the rules and arent cool to me. All I will say is one of the 'Estelar' properties--on different trips I have stayed at each of the Estelar properties and a couple others in Poblado. I have never had an issue with a girl coming over to see me in any hotel.
I always tip the housekeeping generously, leave the room pretty clean, and I leave different gifts like bottles of wine or a bottle of tequila or chocolates etc. For different front desk staff when I check out. I speak Spanish and find something at or near the reception worthy of a compliment I offer to the staff at the desk. I am always nice, quiet, discreet, and I give gifts / tips. I instruct chicas to dress very conservatively when coming to my hotels and ALL of my guests arrive during the day. Its is the rare gem I let stay late into the night. That's just how I roll. Much more low key IMO that way and I feel its just less risk and creates more of a 'we're hanging out together today' vibe than a 'its getting later than late since I am a Medellin chica and I got here 2 hours after I said I would arrive because I was fucking another dude so lets get it on so I can leave before my family figures me out since I am just here to get you off and I am tired' vibe. In other words: chicas care less about clock watching earlier than later.
And I'd rather be the 1st and maybe only dude of the day than the last. I always treat the hotel property and the staff with supreme respect and instruct my girls to as well. No PDA, no kissing in the elevators (they all have cameras) or the halls, etc. And I never have a problem.
It all seems like a lot of work to me, but I'm a lazy. I will just stick to one on one encounters and leave the double teaming to my more imaginative brothers in poon.
Actually in Colombia, for a good threesome, I've needed thought / planning as I described. I'm talking about where the girls are enthusiastic about eating pussy, fingering each other, etc. Chicas will frequently say they'll eat each other, but when it comes "down" to it, they barely put their mouth there to fake it. I'm guessing the OP is looking for an enthusiastic performance. And with his language proficiency he can ensure that goal.
Now in Brasil, your odds are actually decent just picking two random girls and having them interact enthusiastically. But since he's going to Colombia, I think a bit of strategy would behoove him.
ColombiaLover
03-22-18, 23:52
One strong recommendation is Catalina Florez. She is a great fuck, but also is great with a chica. I am not sure if she's lesbo or bi, but she loves chicas. Let her pick the partner. Her friend Luna is a likely choice. With Catalina, you better like tatoos and who knows what hair style / color.
A less enthusiastic recommendation is Yisela Restrepo. YMMV, but she is a confirmed bi and definitely likes to eat pussy. Just be sure she brings someone who is into it. Might be worth a try. But you better like silicon, because Yisela has ass and tit implants.
Actually in Colombia, for a good threesome, I've needed thought / planning as I described. I'm talking about where the girls are enthusiastic about eating pussy, fingering each other, etc. Chicas will frequently say they'll eat each other, but when it comes "down" to it, they barely put their mouth there to fake it. I'm guessing the OP is looking for an enthusiastic performance. And with his language proficiency he can ensure that goal.
Now in Brasil, your odds are actually decent just picking two random girls and having them interact enthusiastically. But since he's going to Colombia, I think a bit of strategy would behoove him.
Man y'all put too much thought into this shit. It is simple. Grab 2 broads and ask them if they will eat each other out. If not, replace the one that will not. Go fuck them. Pay them. Then go on about your business. No need to waste money and time fucking them separately and looking for chemistry. Not like you are looking to spend a lifetime with either of them.I'm not into lesbians but I bet I could make this type of arrangement in El Centro in less than an hour. I would simply identify a lesbian and tell her what I want and make a monetary offer for her to contact one of her friends. I can tell you if you were to offer 100 K to each girl they would be jumping out of their shoes to earn that type of money which is a lot in El Centro The obvious downside is that the Chicas won't be beauty queens.
I agree with every bit of what you wrote. Especially the part about Veracruz lesbians not being beauty queens. I do see butch / femme couples out shopping together or in restaurants around Laureles that I find attractive. The Veracruz lesbians, well it's been a few years since I've drunk enough to give any of them a go.
I'm not into lesbians but I bet I could make this type of arrangement in El Centro in less than an hour. I would simply identify a lesbian and tell her what I want and make a monetary offer for her to contact one of her friends. I can tell you if you were to offer 100 K to each girl they would be jumping out of their shoes to earn that type of money which is a lot in El Centro The obvious downside is that the Chicas won't be beauty queens.
LivingFossil
03-23-18, 03:08
I'm not into lesbians but I bet I could make this type of arrangement in El Centro in less than an hour. I would simply identify a lesbian and tell her what I want and make a monetary offer for her to contact one of her friends. I can tell you if you were to offer 100 K to each girl they would be jumping out of their shoes to earn that type of money which is a lot in El Centro The obvious downside is that the Chicas won't be beauty queens.I actually am looking for good looking bisexual girls! The easy part is asking random working girls and to be explicit in Spanish of expectations.
What I looking for it there was a particular location, website, bar, street, brothel, in which would be most advantageous to start this quest.
I promise I'll report back my success or failure!
One strong recommendation is Catalina Florez. She is a great fuck, but also is great with a chica. I am not sure if she's lesbo or bi, but she loves chicas. Let her pick the partner. Her friend Luna is a likely choice. With Catalina, you better like tatoos and who knows what hair style / color.All time best of many great threesomes: Katalina and Luna TLN.
Taberna Montijos.
Diagonal 50 #49-15.
Just a block away from Parque Berrio station, this is the closest strip club to the metro. I stopped in very briefly a few months ago with some friends. It was either Sunday or a holiday and we were the only customers. At that time there were 2 girls sitting, but neither seemed interested in us. After a quick beer we left.
Stopped by yesterday evening around 6 pm for a beer and to have a second look. Stayed for about an hour and a few guys came in and out. It's a small club, smaller than Grill Nueva. They have 7 girls working and I assume sex is available. I didn't ask, as it wasn't on my agenda. They only do stripping on Friday and Saturday nights when there are more customers.
The girl I talked with was girl next door cute, although the body looked average. She asked how much I would pay for a show and when I offered 20 k she asked which girl I wanted to see. She refused to do the show herself, so I passed.
Of the 7 girls, 1 had a beer belly, 1 I couldn't get a good look at, 2 had average bodies although one looked like a real natural blond. The other 3 looked very good, at least in the dim light. Depending on the price I would take at least 4 of the 7. I'd need a closer inspection for 2 others. The place exceeded my expectations.
Beers were 4 k.
The number one most important thing is asking the girls to dress conservatively. All the rest helps but it is optional compared to how the girl is dressed. If girls show up in 1970's streetwalker attire of the sort Plaza Botero / Veracruz chicas wear you will get a lot of front desk problems. If they show up dressed conservatively there will be fewer problems.
I don't want to be too specific and mess up a good thing or say much more than I have for privacy and risk for flooding the place with people bringing chicks and then doing something stupid so they tighten up the rules and arent cool to me. All I will say is one of the 'Estelar' properties--on different trips I have stayed at each of the Estelar properties and a couple others in Poblado. I have never had an issue with a girl coming over to see me in any hotel.
I always tip the housekeeping generously, leave the room pretty clean, and I leave different gifts like bottles of wine or a bottle of tequila or chocolates etc. For different front desk staff when I check out. I speak Spanish and find something at or near the reception worthy of a compliment I offer to the staff at the desk. I am always nice, quiet, discreet, and I give gifts / tips. I instruct chicas to dress very conservatively when coming to my hotels and ALL of my guests arrive during the day. Its is the rare gem I let stay late into the night. That's just how I roll. Much more low key IMO that way and I feel its just less risk and creates more of a 'we're hanging out together today' vibe than a 'its getting later than late since I am a Medellin chica and I got here 2 hours after I said I would arrive because I was fucking another dude so lets get it on so I can leave before my family figures me out since I am just here to get you off and I am tired' vibe. In other words: chicas care less about clock watching earlier than later.
And I'd rather be the 1st and maybe only dude of the day than the last. I always treat the hotel property and the staff with supreme respect and instruct my girls to as well. No PDA, no kissing in the elevators (they all have cameras) or the halls, etc. And I never have a problem.
Taberna Montijos.
Diagonal 50 #49-15.
Just a block away from Parque Berrio station, this is the closest strip club to the metro. I stopped in very briefly a few months ago with some friends. It was either Sunday or a holiday and we were the only customers. At that time there were 2 girls sitting, but neither seemed interested in us. After a quick beer we left.If you get a chance could you checkout GrillVenecia, upstairs corner bar on the Veracruz back block, CL. 51 #53-10, I meant to when I was in town 2 weeks ago but did not make it.
The entrance is around the corner on Calle 51.
The Tall Man
03-23-18, 23:37
I have been spending the past two weeks visiting the casas, being here for a month now and so need a budget adjustment as I have spent to much pesos over at the likes of Fase Dos and Luna Lunera and so the casas have helped curb my spending.
Had visited New Life 3 times in the past week and must say out of 15 or so chicas all but about 3 are doable. You just can't beat the 30 minutes for 50 mil, damn that's like $18. USD! And have enjoyed each of the 3 chicas, all different each visit.
Walking around yesterday was handed 4 or 5 new casas (here are 3 below) and so actually went to one called FANTASIA and checked out the 6 chicas they had yesterday, I did not partake but one or two were doable, hell they charge 43 mil for 30 minutes, that is $15.35, damn right, may be back tomorrow or Monday.
TTM.
You should only be paying 110 K at Luna Lunera, especially in the daytime. You can also get in on the little used 15 minute rate at New Life if you skip the half assed massage & fake get to know your chit chat then put your clothes on and head to the cashier as soon as you are done. The girls like to chat you up or tell you to wait while they shower after you are done so they collect pay for doing what they will do after you are gone anyway. One of them once told me "you have to wait for me here" as I was walking to out the room door. LOL!
I have been spending the past two weeks visiting the casas, being here for a month now and so need a budget adjustment as I have spent to much pesos over at the likes of Fase Dos and Luna Lunera and so the casas have helped curb my spending.
Had visited New Life 3 times in the past week and must say out of 15 or so chicas all but about 3 are doable. You just can't beat the 30 minutes for 50 mil, damn that's like $18. USD! And have enjoyed each of the 3 chicas, all different each visit.
Walking around yesterday was handed 4 or 5 new casas (here are 3 below) and so actually went to one called FANTASIA and checked out the 6 chicas they had yesterday, I did not partake but one or two were doable, hell they charge 43 mil for 30 minutes, that is $15.35, damn right, may be back tomorrow or Monday.
TTM.
All time best of many great threesomes: Katalina and Luna TLN.And you lived to tell about it! I've seen both separately and although I'm in my 60's I'm in fair shape. Those two tag-teaming some old gringo could definitely be deadly. But what better way to go.
PolloNegro
03-24-18, 07:44
I can tell you this about girls and the front desk, Medellin is the first trust city in which I can honestly say, money gets things done. Brazil was fun, and exotic and new, but Medellin is a city built for guys with a bankroll. I had no less than 5 girls, in my room at the time and I never had a problem getting them past the front desk, I looked at the dude sitting at the desk, gave him $50 mil, and he never even saw the girls going up to my room. The only reason I haven't banged a girl at Fase dos, is we haven't agreed on pics. One chica at Fase dos quoted me 600 mil for 3 hours. I thought about it, and said only if I can take as many pics as I wanted, face included, she said that she would think about it. I'm a business man and I treat everything like business. It will be hard for me to stay any other than Centro & Parque Botero, I know where the bags of ice are, I know where my favorite chicken spot is, I know how to move around Veracruz and the church area and I know most of the strip clubs are in the area. I can't speak for other areas, but I usually thrive in run down areas. I speak Spanish fluently, I was able to negotiate many deals with the girls to get what I wanted. Long story short, bring extra cash for tipping and your stay anywhere in Medellin should be unforgettable, LOL!
I can tell you this about girls and the front desk, Medellin is the first trust city in which I can honestly say, money gets things done. Brazil was fun, and exotic and new, but Medellin is a city built for guys with a bankroll. I had no less than 5 girls, in my room at the time and I never had a problem getting them past the front desk, I looked at the dude sitting at the desk, gave him $50 mil, and he never even saw the girls going up to my room. Oh man you should have talked to me, I had 4 to 5 girls to my room at the Botero when you were there and I didn't give the desk guy squat, they didn't say anything and didn't ask for ID. And if you were going to tip him, a 10 k or 20 k note would have been fine. But I am sure you made his day so that's something!
It's great that you have an unlimited supply of money to throw around. You are a true rock star.
YippieKayay
03-24-18, 19:17
Brazil was fun, and exotic and new, but Medellin is a city built for guys with a bankroll.I've always felt its the exact opposite. Brazil, Sao Paolo especially has places that are very expensive (I'm looking at you Scandaloo); however those clubs are worth every penny. Good whiskey. Good food. Pornstar quality women. If you are ever going to be in Sao Paolo you have to visit Scandaloo once is what every monger has told me. Sao Paolo has the capacity to meet your spending needs because you actually get quality products. Shit, there was even a boate with a bowling alley there and a pizzaeria and all the hookers you could ever fuck.
Medellin on the other hand has far less infrastructure and the strip clubs are not all that great. Most brothels are dirty and in areas that are not safe (no matter what people say here Centro is not safe and you need to watch your back).
I can't speak for other areas, but I usually thrive in run down areas. I speak Spanish fluently, I was able to negotiate many deals with the girls to get what I wanted. Long story short, bring extra cash for tipping and your stay anywhere in Medellin should be unforgettable, LOL!I don't understand how centro Medellin is built for a bankroll. Especially compared to mongering in Brazil. Its not even subjective. The data doesn't reflect this unless you're intentionally paying 4 x the local prices.
I don't understand how centro Medellin is built for a bankroll. Especially compared to mongering in Brazil. Its not even subjective. The data doesn't reflect this unless you're intentionally paying 4 x the local prices.Well, on 11 March, Pollo Negro posted this: 'I'm a different kind of thrill seeker. I have no limit on money, I have a endless supply.'
Wonder how that attitude will work out in the long run in El Centro. I'm just sayin.'
Mr Enternational
03-24-18, 19:59
The only reason I haven't banged a girl at Fase dos, is we haven't agreed on pics. One chica at Fase dos quoted me 600 mil for 3 hours. I thought about it, and said only if I can take as many pics as I wanted, face included, she said that she would think about it. I'm a business man and I treat everything like business.And there lies your problem. Instead of just going to have fun, you want to treat everything like business. Me, my dad, my youngest brother, and a couple of friends took chicks at Fase 2. We didn't ask for anything beforehand, but after EVERYONE had pics to show for it.
I know a few people who will never have money concerns. None of them talk about it.
Well, on 11 March, Pollo Negro posted this: 'I'm a different kind of thrill seeker. I have no limit on money, I have a endless supply.'
Wonder how that attitude will work out in the long run in El Centro. I'm just sayin.'
I've always thought that Balcony would be a fun place to drink beer and people watch but I haven't ever been up there.
If you get a chance could you checkout GrillVenecia, upstairs corner bar on the Veracruz back block, CL. 51 #53-10, I meant to when I was in town 2 weeks ago but did not make it.
The entrance is around the corner on Calle 51.
Black Page
03-24-18, 20:50
And there lies your problem. Instead of just going to have fun, you want to treat everything like business.Well said.
That's how to spoil not only the local market ("I have no limit on money, I have a endless supply") but also his own personal enjoyment. Go and act as a business man, and you'll be treated as a piece of business.
Well, on 11 March, Pollo Negro posted this: 'I'm a different kind of thrill seeker. I have no limit on money, I have a endless supply.'
Wonder how that attitude will work out in the long run in El Centro. I'm just sayin.'Anyone with an endless supply of money feel free to toss about $50 k USD my way. I'll even provide a very sincere receipt for your charitable donation so you can deduct it.
Well, on 11 March, Pollo Negro posted this: 'I'm a different kind of thrill seeker. I have no limit on money, I have a endless supply.'
Wonder how that attitude will work out in the long run in El Centro. I'm just sayin.'I think Pollo Negro is a troll. If you read between the lines of his posts, he's doing almost everything low budget. He says he stays downtown and at a chica's house, both should be inexpensive. He never posts about going to the high-end places, but he probably will now that I have pointed it out. He doesn't show pictures or post names of any chicas he's been with. If he is real and gives the chicas lots of money, then that is good. They won't need much from the rest of us.
But he could be like the New England Patriots' player who was caught taking drugs into Costa Rica. Plenty of money but no brain power.
I think Pollo Negro is a troll. If you read between the lines of his posts, he's doing almost everything low budget. He says he stays downtown and at a chica's house, both should be inexpensive. He never posts about going to the high-end places, but he probably will now that I have pointed it out. He doesn't show pictures or post names of any chicas he's been with. If he is real and gives the chicas lots of money, then that is good. They won't need much from the rest of us.He went to MED with me and stayed in Centro on my advice based on what he wanted, IE girls who would consent to videoing & photos. He went where I took him which did include Fase II but those girls aren't as likely to want to be videoed compared to Centro chicks IMO.
I've always felt its the exact opposite. Brazil, Sao Paolo especially has places that are very expensive (I'm looking at you Scandaloo); however those clubs are worth every penny. Good whiskey. Good food. Pornstar quality women. If you are ever going to be in Sao Paolo you have to visit Scandaloo once is what every monger has told me. Sao Paolo has the capacity to meet your spending needs because you actually get quality products. Shit, there was even a boate with a bowling alley there and a pizzaeria and all the hookers you could ever fuck.
Medellin on the other hand has far less infrastructure and the strip clubs are not all that great. Most brothels are dirty and in areas that are not safe (no matter what people say here Centro is not safe and you need to watch your back).
I don't understand how centro Medellin is built for a bankroll. Especially compared to mongering in Brazil. Its not even subjective. The data doesn't reflect this unless you're intentionally paying 4 x the local prices.You're totally correct.
What that guy posted sounds like he really has no clue.
Troll or BS artist or moron, hard to tell, LOL.
PolloNegro
03-25-18, 01:39
You're totally correct.
What that guy posted sounds like he really has no clue.
Troll or BS artist or moron, hard to tell, LOL.I have visited Brazil, several times, I speak Portuguenol as they say in Brazil, had an absolute blast. I'm no troll, my money is truly unlimited. Had a great time in Medellin as well. Fluent in Spanish and just don't have time for the hassle of not getting what I want out of the deal. I was in Medellin 7 days, banged about 24 girls, filmed everyone of them. Given the going rates in the US, I feel the deals I made were fair. My wing man taught me a lot, thanks Wolf. Also buying an apartment here soon. Loved the people, the Spanish was very easy in comparison to Puerto Rican dialect. I could easily blow $5 k a month and not miss it. In 7 days I didn't spend $2 k, and if you're truly about business and know the lay of the land, cell phones are as good as cash, not to mention casio watches. Seems to me, if you have a plan, finances, and a few reliable friends on this board, you can get anything you want. The only thing I was short on in Medellin, was time! I'll try not to tip as much next time, I'll try not to be so obvious that I'm about business, but truth is, I came to Medellin to bang women, women that were gorgeous, and that my friends, I did. I was also with 2 other mongers who went up to Poblado or some other section of Medellin, they called and said, for your bucks, the best bang is in Centro, so I stayed put. I have no idea if you guys have ever hung out in Carolina, Bayamon, Mayaguez PR, but coming up in those places, Centro & Vera cruz wasn't all that bad. To bang 24 women in one week on your first time in a country was pretty good by my standards, you can always PM for footage. One thing I try not to do on the ISG is mislead anyone. Less than $2000 US for 24 women of the caliber I banged, to me was a fair deal. Sorry if I seem trollish. I thank everyone for all the tips & information you all have provided. I will be visiting Medellin, every 6 weeks! Be back soon, let you know when I touch down next month!
I can tell you this about girls and the front desk, Medellin is the first trust city in which I can honestly say, money gets things done. Brazil was fun, and exotic and new, but Medellin is a city built for guys with a bankroll. I had no less than 5 girls, in my room at the time and I never had a problem getting them past the front desk, I looked at the dude sitting at the desk, gave him $50 mil, and he never even saw the girls going up to my room. Woops, I stand corrected, he did mean 5 girls at the same time, yeah I could see tipping the desk guy to look the other way for that!
I have visited Brazil, several times, I speak Portuguenol as they say in Brazil, had an absolute blast. I'm no troll, my money is truly unlimited. Had a great time in Medellin as well. Fluent in Spanish and just don't have time for the hassle of not getting what I want out of the deal. I was in Medellin 7 days, banged about 24 girls, filmed everyone of them. Given the going rates in the US, I feel the deals I made were fair. My wing man taught me a lot, thanks Wolf. Also buying an apartment here soon. Loved the people, the Spanish was very easy in comparison to Puerto Rican dialect. I could easily blow $5 k a month and not miss it. In 7 days I didn't spend $2 k, and if you're truly about business and know the lay of the land, cell phones are as good as cash, not to mention casio watches. Seems to me, if you have a plan, finances,..................... and a few reliable friends on this board, you can get anything you want. The only thing I was short on in Medellin, was time! I'll try not to tip as much next time, To bang 24 women in one week on your first time in a country was pretty good by my standards, you can always PM for footage. One thing I try not to do on the ISG is mislead anyone. Less than $2000 US for 24 women of the caliber I banged, to me was a fair deal. Sorry if I seem trollish. I thank everyone for all the tips & information you all have provided. I will be visiting Medellin, every 6 weeks! Be back soon, let you know when I touch down next month!And still, no one cares.
Does anyone know whether Energy in Estadio is still in business? I note that their website is no longer operational. I'm visiting MDE in a couple of weeks and Energy has been one of my regular spots during previous visits.
I have visited Brazil, several times, I speak Portuguenol as they say in Brazil, had an absolute blast. I'm no troll, my money is truly unlimited !Just sounds so cheesy saying that, really.
There's plenty of us that have unlimited funds in Colombia, but only the ones who wear big watches, actually verbalize it, LOL.
I believe they are still in business. Why don't you telephone them during the week?
Does anyone know whether Energy in Estadio is still in business? I note that their website is no longer operational. I'm visiting MDE in a couple of weeks and Energy has been one of my regular spots during previous visits.
Be back soon, let you know when I touch down next month!We'll be waiting with bated breath. Or not.
Just sounds so cheesy saying that, really.
There's plenty of us that have unlimited funds in Colombia, but only the ones who wear big watches, actually verbalize it, LOL.I would guess that a high percentage of us regular hobbyists have money to burn. I'd also guess that most of that group is smart enough to not advertise it to everyone.
Does anyone know whether Energy in Estadio is still in business? I note that their website is no longer operational. I'm visiting MDE in a couple of weeks and Energy has been one of my regular spots during previous visits.It is still open. Whoever takes care of their website failed to renew their domain name. It expired on March 20. Hopefully someone there has noticed it. It's real simple to renew, just pay a little.
BlueChange
03-25-18, 20:19
It is still open. Whoever takes care of their website failed to renew their domain name. It expired on March 20. Hopefully someone there has noticed it. It's real simple to renew, just pay a little.Fuck! Yeah please don't let this place close!
It is my fav casa of all time. In the whole world.
I know they have new management lately so perhaps they will take care of it.
Woops, I stand corrected, he did mean 5 girls at the same time, yeah I could see tipping the desk guy to look the other way for that!Thanks for the photo, Wolf. I thought you had posted that in jest until I read farther down that you were there with Pollo Negro. I realize everyone has their own likes and dislikes, and I respect that; but if I was with either one of four of those in the photo, I would hope no one has a photo or video of us. The one with the hunting knife in her bottoms may be okay if she kept her mouth closed.
I was wrong when I thought Pollo Negro was a troll, but I still maintain that his posts are not indicative of someone with unlimited wealth. More power to him if it is true. I don't begrudge people because of their money.
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I've done plenty of research but just wanted to see if there was a concise guide to all the best places to monger?
I speak fluent Spanish and I don't care about meeting "real" girls. All girls are [Deleted by Admin] IMO. Just want a list of the top spots like Fase Dos etc. Or even better places that may have not come up in my research.
The second peice of advice I would appreciate is do all of you get airbnbs? Or do you get motels / hotels? A lot of the airbnb listings say no guests etc.
But I'm gonna clearly break that rule unless otherwise instructed by y'all.
Thanks for the help in advance!
DP.
This is only my opinion but I don't judge them to be the best money can buy.
Thanks for the photo, Wolf. I thought you had posted that in jest until I read farther down that you were there with Pollo Negro. I realize everyone has their own likes and dislikes, and I respect that; but if I was with either one of four of those in the photo, I would hope no one has a photo or video of us. The one with the hunting knife in her bottoms may be okay if she kept her mouth closed.
I was wrong when I thought Pollo Negro was a troll, but I still maintain that his posts are not indicative of someone with unlimited wealth. More power to him if it is true. I don't begrudge people because of their money.
Thanks for the photo, Wolf. I thought you had posted that in jest until I read farther down that you were there with Pollo Negro. I realize everyone has their own likes and dislikes, and I respect that; but if I was with either one of four of those in the photo, I would hope no one has a photo or video of us. The one with the hunting knife in her bottoms may be okay if she kept her mouth closed.
I was wrong when I thought Pollo Negro was a troll, but I still maintain that his posts are not indicative of someone with unlimited wealth. More power to him if it is true. I don't begrudge people because of their money.Well like I said last week, "If we all liked the same thing, you'd all be after my old lady. " I think it was the comedian Tim Thomerson who said that.
Yeah he goes for the darker big bootie girls more them me, I may steer him to the DR, like Sosua for a trip.
Fuck! Yeah please don't let this place close!
It is my fav casa of all time. In the whole world.
I know they have new management lately so perhaps they will take care of it.It's funny, Energy is the only place in MED where I had a bad session. Now that was only one visit and I am sure another chick might have been great but the girl I was with rubbed my junk down with some kind of disinfectant that burned and then kept her hand in the way to prevent full penetration. Had much more fun with the 30 k Centro street chicks I have seen.
Does anyone know whether Energy in Estadio is still in business? I note that their website is no longer operational. I'm visiting MDE in a couple of weeks and Energy has been one of my regular spots during previous visits.They appeared to be open last week when I walked by. Doesn't surprise me their website is down. That thing hasn't been changed for years, other than updating prices.
Went down hoping to see Lucy at Club Sexxy Amiga, but she wasn't working and nobody in the lineup impressed me.
Walked to New Life and their lineup was pretty light. More guys waiting than girls available. However Cari looked good enough to try. Big butt and perfectly shaped boobs, natural and firm. Looks and body were excellent. Service was about average. She did ask if I wanted BBBJ or CBJ. I am fine with CBJ in a casa, so I don't know what her upcharge is. BJ skills were above average. 50 k for the half hour.
New Life has signs posted. They will be closed Thursday and Friday and open regular hours Saturday and Sunday.
PolloNegro
03-26-18, 01:29
I appreciate all of the information on the board, it's very informative and clearly I must be taken in wrong context. I'm a fun loving dude, that enjoys beautiful women. I'm not into wrestling or fussing. If I see what I like I negotiate or pass. I'm just a upfront guy. I'm into details before I hit the room. Saw a lot in Medellin was pleased will return. Sorry if I sound cheesy, and I don't wear big watches, nice gesture but it doesn't change the pleasures I found in Medellin. Thanks for all who provide valuable information.
Thanks again!
I've done plenty of research but just wanted to see if there was a concise guide to all the best places to monger?
I speak fluent Spanish and I don't care about meeting "real" girls. Just want a list of the top spots like Fase Dos etc. Or even better places that may have not come up in my research.Watch the 30 min video on this page for a primer, the top of the line places are Loutron Spa, Las Islas strip club, Fase Dos strip club, Energy massage and then down the list a bit to Luna Lunera strip club, San Diego strip club and New Life brothel.
https://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/
El Mechanico
03-26-18, 15:45
I'm a fun loving dude, that enjoys beautiful women.
Just like everyone else on this forum.
If I see what I like I negotiate or pass.
Just like everyone else on this forum.
Saw a lot in Medellin was pleased will return.
Just like everyone else on this forum.The reason you got cross threaded with several guys is the bragging about your 'endless supply of money'.
Not Just like everyone else on this forum.
Like someone else posted, the guys that truly have an 'endless supply of money' don't post / brag about it. Even if you don't call it bragging, that's what it comes across as. The big watch thing was just a metaphor. I to am a huge fan of El Centro after my last trip so enjoy, continued success & be careful & I'm sure our paths will meet at someday.
El Mechanico.
Hey guys,
Let me start saying that I'm a big fan of the forum, I've been following it since some time now and I just decided to join, so I can contribute as well. OK, so last week I was in Panama for work (I will post a review in that forum as well), and I decided to have a couple days of vacations, I already been in Barranquilla, Cartagena and Bogota, I read very good reviews of Medellin so I decided to come here.
Day 1- The worst day tbh, in the past I had some good experiences with girls from mileroticos in other cities, so I decided why not? Also she had an add in escortsfantasia, the girl in the add looked very good and it was 150 k an hour. So I arranged a visit to her apartment, it is located in some place called Torres del Rio, when I got there, a chubby girl opens the door and told me that the girl I was looking for was out for dinner and she didn't know when she was going to come back even when 5 minutes before we spoke in whatsapp of course there I realized it was a scam. She had like 3 girls inside the apt. All of them mature, around 35-40's, so I of course ranted about it and got the hell out of there immediately. I can no longer find the add in mileroticos but this is the last time I will use that for sure.
Day 2- To overcome the previous day, I decided to go to New Life, as everybody posted good reviews about it, there weren't wrong. They had like 8 girls only but all of them were doable for sure, between pretty faces and nice bodies. I had a session with a blonde girl, I don't remember her name but she was good, nothing extraordinary but fairly good, 50 k for 30 minutes. After I finished I was about to leave but when I met the girls, another girl caught my eyes too, her name is Lucy, she is a petite brunette with red died hair, so I hanged a little bit around the waiting areas and had some beers, until my session with her. Lucy is very funny and chatty, she is very good with BJs, and very very good in sex so I decided to spend a little more time with her, 1 hour with 2 beers I paid 88 K, awesome.
Today, I'm going to check out Zandalys casa as it has good reviews too. Thanks again for all your reviews guys!
Hey guys,
Let me start saying that I'm a big fan of the forum, I've been following it since some time now and I just decided to join, so I can contribute as well. OK, so last week I was in Panama for work (I will post a review in that forum as well), and I decided to have a couple days of vacations, I already been in Barranquilla, Cartagena and Bogota, I read very good reviews of Medellin so I decided to come here.
Day 1- The worst day tbh, in the past I had some good experiences with girls from mileroticos in other citiesMileroticos by its nature is hit and miss, as are agencies, etc. Anything you see on the internet is subject to being fake.
Stick with casas, strip clubs, and the street. Places where you can see what you are getting into.
If you will be here after Wednesday be sure to line something up in advance. Thursday and Friday will be almost impossible. Buena suerte.
Day 1- The worst day tbh, in the past I had some good experiences with girls from mileroticos in other cities, so I decided why not? Also she had an add in escortsfantasia, the girl in the add looked very good and it was 150 k an hour. So I arranged a visit to her apartment, it is located in some place called Torres del Rio, when I got there, a chubby girl opens the door and told me that the girl I was looking for was out for dinner and she didn't know when she was going to come back even when 5 minutes before we spoke in whatsapp of course there I realized it was a scam. She had like 3 girls inside the apt. All of them mature, around 35-40's, so I of course ranted about it and got the hell out of there immediately. I can no longer find the add in mileroticos but this is the last time I will use that for sure.Exactly why in my 4 trips so far to MED I have yet to call any online ad girls. Old photos, touched up photos, fake photos and that's before you even get to personality and sexuality. I did use SA (seeking arrangements) my 1st trip as I was already a member but that was 50/50, 1 hot / cool chick, 1 old photo now much heavier crazy girl.
You may get a hot fun one but then again as you found out you may not.
I don't even do the Casa's like New Life anymore, (I have been there 3 times though) too hard to get a reading on compatibility from just a 3 second "Hola". Casa's where you can hang out with the chick and get a beer etc I do like, like Yakusa, although they have a slim selection usually.
Strip Clubs and the street girls, both you can talk to the girl a bit and get a much better reading on chemistry / sexiness would can make a huge difference. (assuming you speak enough Spanish).
Also, "Street girls" in MED are not the same thing as Street Walkers in the US (Although MED has some of those also) They are independent self-employed sex workers who stay near a short term hotel they work out of and while many of them aren't that hot, some indeed are. I have met a many lower end strip club and street girls who could easily work at a upper strip club like Fase Dos, when asked they told me they like to work their own hours and have their own or less rules, places like FaseII have both lots of rules and schedules for the girls to abide by.
Heading to the city of eternal spring in a few weeks and wanted to run through my plans quickly to see if anyone has any comments or suggestions.
I'll be staying at Hotel M (been before to Medellin for work, so only had time to bring two chicks back from Fase II, Spanish not good enough to go at it alone). I'll be there Monday night through Friday afternoon. Plan to use the in house offerings mostly, but have plans to check out some other places too:
1. Loutron, for daytime to see how it measures up.
2. Energy or new life, just because I've seen it mentioned a few times (worth checking out with my other plans?
3. La Isla and maybe Fase II Just to get some late night fun in if the in house women aren't available.
I've made about 4-5 Facebook connections as well that I plan to test a few out.
Am I missing anything? Any of my ideas not look good? It'll be April 9-13, thanks.
Very sorry to hear about that Mr. Wolfman. I think the disinfectant spray bottle is a fad that is fading. I feel for you about the cock block maneuver. Most experienced guys have had to suffer through the knuckle to the groin move. A major boner killer.
So Energy is nice. I'm neutral about the dressing gown routine. The cleanliness of the facility is a major plus. New Life, Zandaly, and especially Amigas Sexi in Centro all keep their places clean. Aiffe, Fantasias, and Coffee Shop not so much. LOL! I have to say that Energy is lately starting to fall a little bit behind on upkeep. Maybe I need to visit less but they place is starting to look and feel a little "lived in" as in dated. They need to redecorate slightly because the furnishings are a big part of the formula for these mid and upper range places. I'm probably off base because let's face it, the place is almost as popular as New Life even though it costs more than twice as much.
It's funny, Energy is the only place in MED where I had a bad session. Now that was only one visit and I am sure another chick might have been great but the girl I was with rubbed my junk down with some kind of disinfectant that burned and then kept her hand in the way to prevent full penetration. Had much more fun with the 30 k Centro street chicks I have seen.
If you like tall girls, Salome at Zandaly is a good worker. If you like short girls Nicole is a legend at Zandaly, very famous on the Colombian forums.
Hey guys,
Let me start saying that I'm a big fan of the forum, I've been following it since some time now and I just decided to join, so I can contribute as well. OK, so last week I was in Panama for work (I will post a review in that forum as well), and I decided to have a couple days of vacations, I already been in Barranquilla, Cartagena and Bogota, I read very good reviews of Medellin so I decided to come here.
Day 1- The worst day tbh, in the past I had some good experiences with girls from mileroticos in other cities, so I decided why not? Also she had an add in escortsfantasia, the girl in the add looked very good and it was 150 k an hour. So I arranged a visit to her apartment, it is located in some place called Torres del Rio, when I got there, a chubby girl opens the door and told me that the girl I was looking for was out for dinner and she didn't know when she was going to come back even when 5 minutes before we spoke in whatsapp of course there I realized it was a scam. She had like 3 girls inside the apt. All of them mature, around 35-40's, so I of course ranted about it and got the hell out of there immediately. I can no longer find the add in mileroticos but this is the last time I will use that for sure.
Heading to the city of eternal spring in a few weeks and wanted to run through my plans quickly to see if anyone has any comments or suggestions.
I'll be staying at Hotel M (been before to Medellin for work, so only had time to bring two chicks back from Fase II, Spanish not good enough to go at it alone). I'll be there Monday night through Friday afternoon. Plan to use the in house offerings mostly, but have plans to check out some other places too:
1. Loutron, for daytime to see how it measures up.
2. Energy or new life, just because I've seen it mentioned a few times (worth checking out with my other plans?
3. La Isla and maybe Fase II Just to get some late night fun in if the in house women aren't available.
I've made about 4-5 Facebook connections as well that I plan to test a few out.
Am I missing anything? Any of my ideas not look good? It'll be April 9-13, thanks.IMO you have more than enough to cover four days. I might add have dinner and take a stroll through Parque Lleras Wednesday or Thursday night just to soak in the atmosphere / energy (assuming it's nice weather).
IMO you have more than enough to cover four days. I might add have dinner and take a stroll through Parque Lleras Wednesday or Thursday night just to soak in the atmosphere / energy (assuming it's nice weather).Thanks, just wanted to make sure there weren't any must sees I was missing. Would really like to get at least one true VIP of some kind (pornstar or model), but haven't had luck.
Been to Parque Lleras, nice place. If I find a chick I like or some guys to hang out with, I may go have dinner before heading back to the hotel or going to La Isla (found it to be much better than Fase II.
This will be my only horn dog trip for the year, so I am making the best of it. An escort friend of mine in the states challenged me to match her record of 10 fucks in a day LOL.
I recently came back from mde and went to new life 3 x. I read a lot of guys getting BBBJ all the time but that was not the case for me at all. Is this something you have to negotiate?
I took a girl from la Isla and Fase dos and all the same. Only CBJ. My hygiene is excellent and I am an above average to good looking guy 40 years old. So I'm just wondering maybe go for the less hotter girls?
Husker Dude
03-27-18, 03:46
I recently came back from mde and went to new life 3 x. I read a lot of guys getting BBBJ all the time but that was not the case for me at all. Is this something you have to negotiate?
I took a girl from la Isla and Fase dos and all the same. Only CBJ. My hygiene is excellent and I am an above average to good looking guy 40 years old. So I'm just wondering maybe go for the less hotter girls?You have to negotiate BBBJ for propina. How much depends on the chica.
I recently came back from mde and went to new life 3 x. I read a lot of guys getting BBBJ all the time but that was not the case for me at all. Is this something you have to negotiate?
I took a girl from la Isla and Fase dos and all the same. Only CBJ. My hygiene is excellent and I am an above average to good looking guy 40 years old. So I'm just wondering maybe go for the less hotter girls?The casa and strip club girls have all learned that guys will pay from 20 - 50 k more for BBBJ, so they mostly insist on it. I've never paid for it, because it's not worth it to me. With Facebook girls about 75% have gone to the BBBJ without hesitation.
Hasideas Tao
03-27-18, 14:42
Anyone with an endless supply of money feel free to toss about $50 k USD my way. I'll even provide a very sincere receipt for your charitable donation so you can deduct it.So I was thinking about starting a business in Medellin for business travelers that would include a orientation meeting and tour of the city with some history and other networking meetings designed for brainstorming and inspiration on how to grow your business network, financial strategies and business development skills. Reciepts and schedule of meetings and events provided. Would anyone be interested in this?
Hasideas Tao
03-27-18, 14:59
I recently came back from mde and went to new life 3 x. I read a lot of guys getting BBBJ all the time but that was not the case for me at all. Is this something you have to negotiate?
I took a girl from la Isla and Fase dos and all the same. Only CBJ. My hygiene is excellent and I am an above average to good looking guy 40 years old. So I'm just wondering maybe go for the less hotter girls?Its more about where you meet them then about who they are.
In my experience, the girls found at higher priced venues tend to have more rules and be less flexible with their service.
Energy is still open. 125 for half hour. 150 for an hour.
I have said before, there are plenty of girls in medellin who will accept 150 and even 100. If you are chatting up chicas who primarily deal with tourists, negotiating lower prices will be more difficult.
Photoprepagos and Mileroticos to name a few, in my opinion offer great value! Especially to someone with little experience in Medellin.
The casa and strip club girls have all learned that guys will pay from 20 - 50 k more for BBBJ, so they mostly insist on it. I've never paid for it, because it's not worth it to me. With Facebook girls about 75% have gone to the BBBJ without hesitation.Can you give me some help with the Facebook girls. I have heard great things about Medellin girls however I don't eve and ow how to get started. I will be going back to Mde quite often. Thanks.
It's funny, Energy is the only place in MED where I had a bad session. Now that was only one visit and I am sure another chick might have been great but the girl I was with rubbed my junk down with some kind of disinfectant that burned and then kept her hand in the way to prevent full penetration. Had much more fun with the 30 k Centro street chicks I have seen.I'm assuming the disinfectant was a prelude to BBBJ in which case I would not mind as it would soon be cooled and the heat followed by the cooling would make for a good experience. As for the holding the condom, when that happens I try to go for CIM if available or negotiable.
Its more about where you meet them then about who they are.
In my experience, the girls found at higher priced venues tend to have more rules and be less flexible with their service.
Energy is still open. 125 for half hour. 150 for an hour.
I have said before, there are plenty of girls in medellin who will accept 150 and even 100. If you are chatting up chicas who primarily deal with tourists, negotiating lower prices will be more difficult.
Photoprepagos and Mileroticos to name a few, in my opinion offer great value! Especially to someone with little experience in Medellin.Your fourth paragraph is key. Once a chica has dealt with tourists who will tip her for "extras" such as BBBJ, it becomes almost automatic that she won't do it without a tip. The tip may be small (10 or 20 mil), but she expects something.
I used to always get BBBJ in Energy without asking. But the swarms of tourists have changed that.
I love it when some ying yang says, 'I negotiated X and Y for a price of Z and then I tipped her 50% more. ' Then WTF was the point of the negotiation? Fucking gringos.
I love it when some ying yang says, 'I negotiated X and Y for a price of Z and then I tipped her 50% more. ' Then WTF was the point of the negotiation? Fucking gringos.You never want to tarnish your moniker, do you?
I have said before, there are plenty of girls in medellin who will accept 150 and even 100. If you are chatting up chicas who primarily deal with tourists, negotiating lower prices will be more difficult.There are plenty who will accept 30 k also. IE $10 US. My last trip the most fun girl I was with was 30 k, tongue down my throat in the elevator before we even got to my room, BBBJ, passionate, etc, cute, petite, no body fat. She was such a Raver chick though she may have been rolling on Molly (MDMA / Ecstasy) for all I know.
Call me crazy but when I go to the trouble of negotiating a price, I want that to be the price. If that makes me a dickhead, I am fine with that. Fools and their money are soon parted, of course, whereas I have toured the world quite effectively using my basic negotiating strategy of if we agree on X, it is X, y punto.
I love it when some ying yang says, 'I negotiated X and Y for a price of Z and then I tipped her 50% more. ' Then WTF was the point of the negotiation? Fucking gringos.If some Centro chick quotes me 30 k and does a great enthusiastic job, I have no problem giving her 50 k, the 20 k is only $7 dollars to me, the price of a QTR pounder meal at McD's but it means a lot to a poor barrio girl. And she is happy to see me the next time I pass by and has even more enthusiasm. I think $17 is a more fair deal for everybody, YMMV.
Mr Enternational
03-28-18, 00:37
If some Centro chick quotes me 30 k and does a great enthusiastic job, I have no problem giving her 50 k, the 20 k is only $7 dollars to me, the price of a QTR pounder meal at McD's but it means a lot to a poor barrio girl. And she is happy to see me the next time I pass by and has even more enthusiasm. I think $17 is a more fair deal for everybody, YMMV.So the next time are you negotiating 30 again? Because now you got her expecting 50. How do you know she wouldn't have the same enthusiasm had you not given her another 20? Maybe she is just happy to see you as a repeat customer regardless. It is funny how guys attribute a chick treating them well the next time to them giving them more money the first time. I say it is a figment of their imagination. Meanwhile I am over here blocking chicks that I have only given the agreed upon amount because they are hounding me about when they can see me again.
So the next time are you negotiating 30 again? Because now you got her expecting 50. How do you know she wouldn't have the same enthusiasm had you not given her another 20? Maybe she is just happy to see you as a repeat customer regardless. It is funny how guys attribute a chick treating them well the next time to them giving them more money the first time. I say it is a figment of their imagination. Meanwhile I am over here blocking chicks that I have only given the agreed upon amount because they are hounding me about when they can see me again.I like to be generous while on vacation, especially to the poorer Barrio girls in Centro. Asking for $7 change would be distasteful / cheap to me and I have no problem giving them 50 k the next time.
So the next time are you negotiating 30 again? Because now you got her expecting 50. How do you know she wouldn't have the same enthusiasm had you not given her another 20? Maybe she is just happy to see you as a repeat customer regardless. It is funny how guys attribute a chick treating them well the next time to them giving them more money the first time. I say it is a figment of their imagination. Meanwhile I am over here blocking chicks that I have only given the agreed upon amount because they are hounding me about when they can see me again.When a girl looks this happy to see me the next time I feel like I am doing something right.
As always, YMMV.
With Facebook girls 100% are collecting 2 to 3 times the cost of casa girls and 50% more than strip club girls. So, it's basically a wash in terms of cost. If time has no value, then the Facebook girls are probably a better value. There is much less waiting and wondering with casa and strip club girls.
The casa and strip club girls have all learned that guys will pay from 20 - 50 k more for BBBJ, so they mostly insist on it. I've never paid for it, because it's not worth it to me. With Facebook girls about 75% have gone to the BBBJ without hesitation.
I love it when some ying yang says, 'I negotiated X and Y for a price of Z and then I tipped her 50% more. ' Then WTF was the point of the negotiation? Fucking gringos.Over 45 years of mongering, I've put some thought to this topic of "overpaying". Since the end of the V'Nam war, I've seen a lot of good places come and go, mostly do to wealthy gringos who destroy.
The foreign economy and cause a nightmare situation for the local guys.
I barter hard to get the same prices as locals for anything I buy. I'm more than happy to walk away from any deal (pussy or street food) if I think I'm being overcharged because I'm a foreigner.
I resent that and an unwilling to mess up the existing economy.
On the other hand, in my mind, tipping is a whole different matter. It is separate from the original transaction as the price had already been established and I feel I had won out. If I feel I've had exceptionally.
Great service or am just feeling generous that day, I usually give a good tip. I feel really good about that as I have been very blessed in my life and tossing an extra $5 or 10 their way is no BFD to me at all.
This system has these benefits:
1) The negotiated price is fair and reasonable. I'm not paying more because I'm a gringo, farang, foreigner bule or whatever. It doesn't hurt the local guy and the girl expects to continue to agree to that amount in the future.
2) The tip system incentivises the girl to perform well and to please. I don't mind at all if I'm getting extra good service because she hope to get a tip. That is a "beautiful thing" as long as it is not negotiated.
3) The next time a fellow like me comes along, that young lady will try extra hard for him. This sets a good precedence for my fellow countrymen.
4) It rewards good behavior. Better that the girl delivers well than becomes a shrewd negotiator.
5) It helps to keep the buyer in control. The tip happens after the deed thus she gets no extra benefits until the end when the client is fully satisfied.
If we all used this system, we'd have much better experiences in these "lands of opportunity".
Maybe you should just give her 7 dollars without having sex with her. She's a poor barriio girl and needs your help either way. And that way it doesn't screw up prices.
Unfortunately I believe pricing inflation due to tourists is an inevitability.
If some Centro chick quotes me 30 k and does a great enthusiastic job, I have no problem giving her 50 k, the 20 k is only $7 dollars to me, the price of a QTR pounder meal at McD's but it means a lot to a poor barrio girl. And she is happy to see me the next time I pass by and has even more enthusiasm. I think $17 is a more fair deal for everybody, YMMV.
Hello,
I juts want to share my experience at Medellin, not much to report.
Walking street girls neer la Iglesia de Veracruz, disappointing, really there were like 50 women, no one over a 5. Maybe one girl that was inside a house, but I did not enter to have a closer look. Nothing there.
Fase II, also maybe lots of 5, some 6's one or two 7 and one 8, but that girl was very busy with one guy and not available. So had to move on.
I just went to one spa, that is the worst spa, I really was advise by someone here not to go, but it was close to the hotel, the secret spa, and I should have heard the advise. Just 4 girls, but all less than a 5 really. Don't go there.
The only place I found a nice girl was at gusto, and a couple of nice girls there, that is the only place I would recommend, prices start at 200 USD, but most get down to 400 K or 300 K COP.
Maybe you should just give her 7 dollars without having sex with her. She's a poor barriio girl and needs your help either way. And that way it doesn't screw up prices.
Unfortunately I believe pricing inflation due to tourists is an inevitability.I have done that also, saw my girlie Louisa when I was showing PolloNegro around, she said she was hungry so I gave her 20 k and went on with the tour.
Maybe you should just give her 7 dollars without having sex with her. She's a poor barriio girl and needs your help either way. And that way it doesn't screw up prices.
Unfortunately I believe pricing inflation due to tourists is an inevitability.I believe most of the members of this board don't partake in the El Centro street girls as they either don't have the language skills or the stomach for the scene there. As far as what Wolf did, I do the same when I find a gem I want to repeat with. As far as pricing inflation, there are not a lot of tourists in El Centro banging street girls so the prices are not going to be screwed up there like you think.
When a girl looks this happy to see me the next time I feel like I am doing something right.
As always, YMMV.Wolff662, you strike me as being not only a happy person but also as human, unlike your critics on this board. How miserable must someone be who would get good service from a poor chica and cannot afford to give her a US $7. 00 tip!
Mr Enternational
03-28-18, 14:15
Wolff662, you strike me as being not only a happy person but also as human, unlike your critics on this board. How miserable must someone be who would get good service from a poor chica and cannot afford to give her a US $7. 00 tip!It is amazing how the point can just fly over people's heads. It has nothing to do with some made up happiness level or not being able to afford something. As the man said, if them being so poor was such a big issue to you, you would go around handing out money without fucking them. But I guess they have not fallen to that level of poordom yet. And besides that, hasn't Wolf said that half those chicks are drug addicts anyway? You act like you are contributing to her college fund. The dopeman thanks you for your generous contribution.
And besides that, hasn't Wolf said that half those chicks are drug addicts anyway? You act like you are contributing to her college fund. The dopeman thanks you for your generous contribution.No I have not said. As far as I can tell none of them I have met are unless you count smoking weed. Some of the strippers I have met have been coke heads but the street girls I have hung out with have been bright eyed and bushy tailed. I have experience in the US with opiate addicts, crack heads, meth users, zanex queens, etc, I know the signs.
Over 45 years of mongering, I've put some thought to this topic of "overpaying". Since the end of the V'Nam war, I've seen a lot of good places come and go, mostly do to wealthy gringos who destroy.
The foreign economy and cause a nightmare situation for the local guys.
I barter hard to get the same prices as locals for anything I buy. I'm more than happy to walk away from any deal (pussy or street food) if I think I'm being overcharged because I'm a foreigner.
I resent that and an unwilling to mess up the existing economy.
On the other hand, in my mind, tipping is a whole different matter. It is separate from the original transaction as the price had already been established and I feel I had won out. If I feel I've had exceptionally.
Great service or am just feeling generous that day, I usually give a good tip. I feel really good about that as I have been very blessed in my life and tossing an extra $5 or 10 their way is no BFD to me at all.
This system has these benefits:
1) The negotiated price is fair and reasonable. I'm not paying more because I'm a gringo, farang, foreigner bule or whatever. It doesn't hurt the local guy and the girl expects to continue to agree to that amount in the future.
2) The tip system incentivises the girl to perform well and to please. I don't mind at all if I'm getting extra good service because she hope to get a tip. That is a "beautiful thing" as long as it is not negotiated.
3) The next time a fellow like me comes along, that young lady will try extra hard for him. This sets a good precedence for my fellow countrymen.
4) It rewards good behavior. Better that the girl delivers well than becomes a shrewd negotiator.
5) It helps to keep the buyer in control. The tip happens after the deed thus she gets no extra benefits until the end when the client is fully satisfied.
If we all used this system, we'd have much better experiences in these "lands of opportunity".Experience talks!
My experience tells me the same!
Thanks!
Call me crazy but when I go to the trouble of negotiating a price, I want that to be the price. If that makes me a dickhead, I am fine with that. Fools and their money are soon parted, of course, whereas I have toured the world quite effectively using my basic negotiating strategy of if we agree on X, it is X, y punto.I'm sure your system works.
And you get to save a few bucks, and get to be a Dickhead, LOL.
I'm more with Wolf662, I negotiate x, I pay x, however, I tip for stellar attitude and performance, and it pays in dividends upon my return.
Plus it makes me feel good.
Of course if a girl performs just normally, goes thru the motions, she gets paid the negotiated x amount.
If she then asks for a tip, I explain that a tip is to be earned, and we'll see next time.
Motivation.
I know some guys are cold hearted mongers and wouldn't tip no matter what or how a girl performed, and that's fine if that's their deal.
It's not mine.
Cheers.
Maybe you should just give her 7 dollars without having sex with her. She's a poor barriio girl and needs your help either way. And that way it doesn't screw up prices.
Unfortunately I believe pricing inflation due to tourists is an inevitability.The gringo invasion began many moons ago, the prices have not skyrocketed.
Many good deals to be had, especially if you know what you're doing.
Wolff662, you strike me as being not only a happy person but also as human, unlike your critics on this board. How miserable must someone be who would get good service from a poor chica and cannot afford to give her a US $7. 00 tip!I agree!
Happy times brotha!
ArmyStrong
03-28-18, 17:20
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So the next time are you negotiating 30 again? Because now you got her expecting 50. How do you know she wouldn't have the same enthusiasm had you not given her another 20? Maybe she is just happy to see you as a repeat customer regardless. It is funny how guys attribute a chick treating them well the next time to them giving them more money the first time. I say it is a figment of their imagination. Meanwhile I am over here blocking chicks that I have only given the agreed upon amount because they are hounding me about when they can see me again.Yep, it's all a figment of the imagination, LOL.
There is no joy or enthusiasm on either end for giving a tip to show appreciation.
Have you ever put yourself in their place? Something called empathy.
When you see they are good people and do a great job, just maybe rewarding them is something, pardon the word, but, nice, LOL.
On second thought, disregard all that.
Get back to blocking girls, LOL.
Mr Enternational
03-28-18, 19:07
I'm more with Wolf662, I negotiate x, I pay x, however, I tip for stellar attitude and performance, and it pays in dividends upon my return.
Plus it makes me feel good.I buy that it makes you feel good. As far as it giving you any other advantage is pure assumption. Now if you could point to a person that you were not giving tips to then you started giving a tip later and the service changed for the better or a person that you were giving tips and stopped and the service got worse, then you may have an argument. But when you start out giving tips and next time attribute that to receiving better service doesn't hold water. There could have been one of many reasons that you got better sevice, none of which may have been you giving a tip last time.
To tell you the truth, I go through so many women that I have fucked up and fucked the same person twice by accident because I didn't remember them. If you think a hooker that goes through way more guys is going to remember your extra 20 K then keep hope alive.
I buy that it makes you feel good. As far as it giving you any other advantage is pure assumption. Now if you could point to a person that you were not giving tips to then you started giving a tip later and the service changed for the better or a person that you were giving tips and stopped and the service got worse, then you may have an argument. But when you start out giving tips and next time attribute that to receiving better service doesn't hold water. There could have been one of many reasons that you got better sevice, none of which may have been you giving a tip last time.
To tell you the truth, I go through so many women that I have fucked up and fucked the same person twice by accident because I didn't remember them. If you think a hooker that goes through way more guys is going to remember your extra 20 K then keep hope alive.My daddy taught me you always tip for good service.
I'm sure your system works.
And you get to save a few bucks, and get to be a Dickhead, LOL.
I'm more with Wolf662, I negotiate x, I pay x, however, I tip for stellar attitude and performance, and it pays in dividends upon my return.
Plus it makes me feel good.
Of course if a girl performs just normally, goes thru the motions, she gets paid the negotiated x amount.
If she then asks for a tip, I explain that a tip is to be earned, and we'll see next time.
Motivation.
I know some guys are cold hearted mongers and wouldn't tip no matter what or how a girl performed, and that's fine if that's their deal.
It's not mine.
Cheers.I bet a lot (if not everyone) does not know the meaning of tips =To Insure Proper Service / to each their own I've always said.
Tipping is not required in Colombia, whether in a restaurant or any other venue. That's a US thing.
So, people from the US routinely tip 15-20% in restaurants. Here in Spain, people routinely tip ... (wait for it!) ... nothing in restaurants. Does that mean that Spaniards lack empathy as compared to people from the US? In Argentina, the typical restaurant tip is 7-10%. From this, do we conclude that Argentineans have approximately half as much empathy as people from the US? In Japan, if one attempts to tip in a restaurant, the waiter will run out into the street and hand the money back. Do we conclude that Japanese waiters have an infinite amount of empathy?
In the US, it is necessary to tip waiters because in most jurisdictions, they do not make minimum wage. Of course, in Seattle they make $15 an hour and people from the US still tip them 15-20%. What kind of sense does that make? In Spain, waiters make a decent salary, so locals do not tip them.
Now, hookers set their own prices in most cases. One would assume that they set their prices at a level that allows them to earn what they feel they need to earn. I worked damn hard for my money, and fucking is not that tough of a job. So shouldn't they have empathy for me and give me good service anyway, once we have agreed on a price that we obviously both thought was fair? People from the US have their heads way up their asses on this whole tipping thing, and it is out of control. Australians have it right. Charge a fair price, pay a decent wage, and forget all this nonsense about tipping.
I am all for following local customs, and I doubt very much that colombianos are tipping 20 k in a 30 k casa. When I was in Argentina, I never tipped in the privados or in the clubs, and I was still quite popular. My regular chicas who came to my house knew what they were getting, and knew better than to ask for more, or for taxi money. I kept my eye on inflation and gave them regular raises such that the amount of money I gave them maintained its purchasing power.
So, while I respect the point of view expressed by, for example, LV monger (whose handle indicates he may be from the tipping capital of the western hemisphere), I don't buy #s 2 and 4 in particular, and also do not think that what is customary in the US needs to be extrapolated to other countries and cultures whose tipping procedures are much less pervasive or extreme. Another thing I don't understand is tipping a hooker to perform a service she would rather not perform. Now, in the case of BBBJ, it is just a question of them trying to get extra for something they do all the time. But if a chica really doesn't like anal or CIM, and you tip her extra to do it, I think that is a power trip.
I bet a lot (if not everyone) does not know the meaning of tips =To Insure Proper Service / to each their own I've always said.This is bull, and if it were true, it would be 'teps. ' You would give extra money, in theory, to ensure proper or prompt service.
http://www.word-detective.com/2011/03/tip/
Tipping is not required in Colombia, whether in a restaurant or any other venue. That's a US thing.I had a bit of a realization after a trip to Fase II. The 200 k for the habitación is basically just that nada más. The lady gets little. I have vowed on my next trips to include a 50 k propinita to the lady.
It's just me.
Comment from another about post that says the ladies don't remember. They do. Some anyway. ON my first visit to Fase II I pulled Giselle. Young blond. Fake blond but, cute. Next 2 times I got waylaid by a brunette spinner that did great things for me an my 4th trip, Giselle. From my first trip. Found me and chatted me up all night. I bought her some many drinks that when it came time to pay for the habitación, I didn't have enough for the habitación so, the generous tip afterward wouldn't have happened. Oh well, a fun night tipping dancers and buying and playing with Giselle on the floor.
I had a bit of a realization after a trip to Fase II. The 200 k for the habitacin is basically just that nada ms. So $75 US for a room for an hour in a third world country. OK. So tip her $18 US for an hour of work in country where the minimum wage is around $300 a month, or less than $2 an hour. And in the US a line cook makes $12 an hour for sweating his ass off at a dangerous job. I am just not able to make a lot of sense out of that. But that's just me. We could move the tipping discussion to chit chat if anyone wants to continue it.
Mr Enternational
03-28-18, 21:37
My daddy taught me you always tip for good service.And does your daddy know what happens when you go to Japan and tip for good service? You insult the person.
Tipping is not required in Colombia, whether in a restaurant or any other venue. That's a US thing.There's a voluntary 10% tip at nice restaurants. It's not mandatory (kind of like the US), but I was told that everyone does it (just like the US). But I noticed that people will take the coin from the tray, leaving only exactly 10%, while people in the US will hardly ever take the remaining change. The waiter will ask you if it is ok to put the tip on the bill.
Another thing I don't understand is tipping a hooker to perform a service she would rather not perform. Now, in the case of BBBJ, it is just a question of them trying to get extra for something they do all the time. But if a chica really doesn't like anal or CIM, and you tip her extra to do it, I think that is a power trip.I completely understand tipping a hooker to perform a service she would not rather do. My guess is that most girls don't like to perform CIM, lesbian, rimming for their clients for the standard price. Am I on a power trip? Maybe. LOL!
Do the hookers perform BBBJ all the time? That has not been my experience in the low or mid level places. Or is that because I'm an obvious foreigner? Haven't picked up in the high end strip joints yet. When I ask in Bogota's Santa Fe, or the mid level strip joints, or casas (including New Life), the girls always said no to my BBBJ question (oral sin condom?)
I had to always offer a tip for BBBJ. 50 K has been the normal reply. That was their first offer. Maybe next time I should counter with something lower.
But the good thing about the 50 K tip for BBBJ was that CIM was always included without me asking. And usually, rimming was also included.
Mr Enternational
03-28-18, 22:35
When I ask in Bogota's Santa Fe, or the mid level strip joints, or casas (including New Life), the girls always said no to my BBBJ question (oral sin condom?)
I had to always offer a tip for BBBJ. 50 K has been the normal reply. That was their first offer. Maybe next time I should counter with something lower.
But the good thing about the 50 K tip for BBBJ was that CIM was always included without me asking. And usually, rimming was also included.And that is what makes the shit laughable. I was in a Santa Fe casa Sunday night and paid 20 K for FS and didn't even have to mention BBBJ; it was a given. Another punter comes along and pays 250% of what I did for a tip alone to have his johnson polished without a condom. Shit. How much was the payment before that 50 K shit came up? Makes me say hmmm.
In most Latin countries the propina is included in the bill, usually 10%. Gringos not knowing Spanish can't read the bill and don't know what a propina is. I've pointed out to guys on their bill the propina is already included; even asked the waiter about it and they agreed. Some of these Gringos leave a tip anyway. Messes these people up, they start getting used to it.
I was in East Germany many years ago, in the old Commie days, and left a tip on the table. While I was paying the bill at the counter some guy walked in off the street and took the money and walked out. I never forgot that.
In most Latin countries the propina is included in the bill, usually 10%. Gringos not knowing Spanish can't read the bill and don't know what a propina is. Fucking gringos.
YippieKayay
03-28-18, 23:01
In most Latin countries the propina is included in the bill, usually 10%. Gringos not knowing Spanish can't read the bill and don't know what a propina is. I've pointed out to guys on their bill the propina is already included; even asked the waiter about it and they agreed. Some of these Gringos leave a tip anyway. Messes these people up, they start getting used to it.
I was in East Germany many years ago, in the old Commie days, and left a tip on the table. While I was paying the bill at the counter some guy walked in off the street and took the money and walked out. I never forgot that.You can leave additional tip to the 10% (which is optional too). I sometimes leave a peso or two especially if its coins because it's a bigger hassle to carry the coins than to leave them. When paying by credit card it makes my life easier as I don't add anything additional other than the 10% servicio fee which is NOT required. You can ask them to take it off if you want but you look like a dick.
Do the hookers perform BBBJ all the time? I meant that they do it all the time with their boyfriends, husbands, etc.
You can leave additional tip to the 10%You can throw 100 k pesos notes out of your apartment window too, if you want. There is no law against it. You can tithe to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. You can make extra voluntary income tax payments. You can give your three year old nephew a Bentley. All of those things are possible.
YippieKayay
03-28-18, 23:37
I meant that they do it all the time with their boyfriends, husbands, etc.They don't all do this at home privately (blow jobs that is). I noticed moms are less likely to want to blow you sin condom. This included one mother who would let me bareback her without issues but would only blow me with a condom on. Turns out she doesn't want to kiss her kid with cock breath. I can respect that.
In most Latin countries the propina is included in the bill, usually 10%. Gringos not knowing Spanish can't read the bill and don't know what a propina is. I've pointed out to guys on their bill the propina is already included; even asked the waiter about it and they agreed. Some of these Gringos leave a tip anyway. Messes these people up, they start getting used to it.
Worth repeating.
In Colombia at least, restaurants will either ask if they should include service with the bill total or they will include service and advise clients that it is optional. That brings it back to the original point that guys who can't read the bill or the notification won't know they are paying service on top of service.
Worth repeating.
Walking street girls neer la Iglesia de Veracruz, disappointing, really there were like 50 women, no one over a 5. Maybe one girl that was inside a house, but I did not enter to have a closer look. Nothing there.
Fase II, also maybe lots of 5, some 6's one or two 7 and one 8, but that girl was very busy with one guy and not available. So had to move on.
The only place I found a nice girl was at gusto, and a couple of nice girls there, that is the only place I would recommend, prices start at 200 USD, but most get down to 400 K or 300 K COP.You might be a little picky or have a unusual grading system.
Saying the VeraCruz girls were 5's I can understand (it takes a few visits at different times to find a hottie there) but to say the Fase II girls were mostly 5's also I have trouble believing, I have been there at least a half dozen times and would rate all their girls I have seen as 7+'s with some 8's and 9's on just about every visit. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
In most Latin countries the propina is included in the bill, usually 10%. Gringos not knowing Spanish can't read the bill and don't know what a propina is. I've pointed out to guys on their bill the propina is already included; even asked the waiter about it and they agreed. Some of these Gringos leave a tip anyway. Messes these people up, they start getting used to it.
I was in East Germany many years ago, in the old Commie days, and left a tip on the table. While I was paying the bill at the counter some guy walked in off the street and took the money and walked out. I never forgot that.When the waiter asks " con servicio" that is asking permission to add the service tip to the bill. So when you get the bill, it is added, you don't need to add another on top.
ColombiaLover
03-29-18, 03:19
I wonder if I banged the same chica. I had the same experience. Go figure.
They don't all do this at home privately (blow jobs that is). I noticed moms are less likely to want to blow you sin condom. This included one mother who would let me bareback her without issues but would only blow me with a condom on. Turns out she doesn't want to kiss her kid with cock breath. I can respect that.
I buy that it makes you feel good. As far as it giving you any other advantage is pure assumption. Now if you could point to a person that you were not giving tips to then you started giving a tip later and the service changed for the better or a person that you were giving tips and stopped and the service got worse, then you may have an argument. But when you start out giving tips and next time attribute that to receiving better service doesn't hold water. There could have been one of many reasons that you got better sevice, none of which may have been you giving a tip last time.
To tell you the truth, I go through so many women that I have fucked up and fucked the same person twice by accident because I didn't remember them. If you think a hooker that goes through way more guys is going to remember your extra 20 K then keep hope alive.Good rationalization for not tipping.
I don't get scientific about it, I just do what I feel is right.
And obviously you just don't tip, and that's your prerogative.
Not yet, but soon my friend. Soon. Colombia has been getting more attention, and word has finally been getting around that Pablo Escobar is dead. Maybe Medellin and Colombia in general is not as dangerous as it once was. Sometimes I think the only thing keeping the masses away is that they're too lazy to learn Spanish.
The gringo invasion began many moons ago, the prices have not skyrocketed.
Many good deals to be had, especially if you know what you're doing.
Yes he does seem like a harsh grader. To each his own. Or maybe it was a really bad night. Fase II has always had a couple of 8's whenever I've gone.
You might be a little picky or have a unusual grading system.
Saying the VeraCruz girls were 5's I can understand (it takes a few visits at different times to find a hottie there) but to say the Fase II girls were mostly 5's also I have trouble believing, I have been there at least a half dozen times and would rate all their girls I have seen as 7+'s with some 8's and 9's on just about every visit. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I really wish the US would import some of the rest of the world's tipping culture. I personally tip 15% when in the US on the tax-excluded total 9 out of 10 times. I don't not tip for bad service, simply because I don't want a waiter to go home with less just because he / she had a bad day. With exceptional service, I will tip 20%. So I guess in actuality, I only ever tip 5%? I don't know. My big gripe is that I like to know what the cost of my meal is before I eat it. I don't want some sort of vague price of at least X, but feel free to give us more! What if I said, I'm willing to pay up to X, but feel free to charge me less? Why is that not acceptable? Why is your job worthy of a tip and mine not? My job probably effects more people daily than a waiters, but because I'm not as social and you don't have to look me in the eye, I don't deserve a tip? I thought we all work because we get a salary, or paid for our services, not because we can whine our way into extra money. Anyways, hating the US tipping culture. Hope it stays there or better yet dies there.
So, people from the US routinely tip 15-20% in restaurants. Here in Spain, people routinely tip ... (wait for it!) ... nothing in restaurants. Does that mean that Spaniards lack empathy as compared to people from the US? In Argentina, the typical restaurant tip is 7-10%. From this, do we conclude that Argentineans have approximately half as much empathy as people from the US? In Japan, if one attempts to tip in a restaurant, the waiter will run out into the street and hand the money back. Do we conclude that Japanese waiters have an infinite amount of empathy?
In the US, it is necessary to tip waiters because in most jurisdictions, they do not make minimum wage. Of course, in Seattle they make $15 an hour and people from the US still tip them 15-20%. What kind of sense does that make? In Spain, waiters make a decent salary, so locals do not tip them.
Now, hookers set their own prices in most cases. One would assume that they set their prices at a level that allows them to earn what they feel they need to earn. I worked damn hard for my money, and fucking is not that tough of a job. So shouldn't they have empathy for me and give me good service anyway, once we have agreed on a price that we obviously both thought was fair? People from the US have their heads way up their asses on this whole tipping thing, and it is out of control. Australians have it right. Charge a fair price, pay a decent wage, and forget all this nonsense about tipping.
I am all for following local customs, and I doubt very much that colombianos are tipping 20 k in a 30 k casa. When I was in Argentina, I never tipped in the privados or in the clubs, and I was still quite popular. My regular chicas who came to my house knew what they were getting, and knew better than to ask for more, or for taxi money. I kept my eye on inflation and gave them regular raises such that the amount of money I gave them maintained its purchasing power.
So, while I respect the point of view expressed by, for example, LV monger (whose handle indicates he may be from the tipping capital of the western hemisphere), I don't buy #s 2 and 4 in particular, and also do not think that what is customary in the US needs to be extrapolated to other countries and cultures whose tipping procedures are much less pervasive or extreme. Another thing I don't understand is tipping a hooker to perform a service she would rather not perform. Now, in the case of BBBJ, it is just a question of them trying to get extra for something they do all the time. But if a chica really doesn't like anal or CIM, and you tip her extra to do it, I think that is a power trip.
The Tall Man
03-29-18, 16:33
You might be a little picky or have a unusual grading system.
Saying the VeraCruz girls were 5's I can understand (it takes a few visits at different times to find a hottie there) but to say the Fase II girls were mostly 5's also I have trouble believing, I have been there at least a half dozen times and would rate all their girls I have seen as 7+'s with some 8's and 9's on just about every visit. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.I ditto that with myself having about the same number of visits.
TTM.
Gringos who go to Colombia and tip working girls have a choice. Either they do what they like with their money and tip the girls or take into the account the cries and pleadings of mongers to not tip so as not to raise the expectations of the chicas and thus cause Colombia to no longer be a cheap sex destination for low budget gringos.
You might be a little picky or have a unusual grading system.
Saying the VeraCruz girls were 5's I can understand (it takes a few visits at different times to find a hottie there) but to say the Fase II girls were mostly 5's also I have trouble believing, I have been there at least a half dozen times and would rate all their girls I have seen as 7+'s with some 8's and 9's on just about every visit. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.I went on bad day since it was holiday at Colombia, so maybe most girls where not working that day, I know rating is subjective, I look for both, face and body, taking only body in the rate, I would agree, to be 7+, but if I do not like the face I prefer to pass. Personally, liked more the girls at gusto, even though some girls at Fase II may have better body.
BTW, Estrella was not there that night.
Quite apart from the number ratings, to suggest Fase II girls are comparable to who you find on the Veracruz stroll. That dog won't hunt.
I went on bad day since it was holiday at Colombia, so maybe most girls where not working that day, I know rating is subjective, I look for both, face and body, taking only body in the rate, I would agree, to be 7+, but if I do not like the face I prefer to pass. Personally, liked more the girls at gusto, even though some girls at Fase II may have better body.
BTW, Estrella was not there that night.
BlueChange
03-30-18, 04:28
Ahh, lets make this forms what it is about, the reviews!
I see my reliable. I haven't seen her in a year or so but damn, she still looks like tits on legs. We have a drink first, I admire her new apartment. She is so comforting and relaxing to be around. She has such a sweet tooth and drinks coke cola by the gallon!! We spent some time talking and then she is like "so should we go to the bedroom?" say no more. We begin passionatly kissing like the long lost lovers that we are. With each gasp for breath between kissing we remove a layer of clothing. Finally her enormase tits emerge and I suck on them like the vitamins for life come out. I pick her up and throw her on the bed. She looks at me with the cutest sexiest face. I rub my dick raw right near her clit. She trust me enough to know I won't go bareback with her so she enjoys the stimulation it brings. She flips me over and gives CPR to my dick. I just want to put it in her and finger her dripping wet pussy. She grabs the rubber and puts it on with the speed of an olypmian. She hops on top so I can see her pulsing clit and rides me like a wild stallion. Her tits hit her face so much the bottom of it is red. We don't give a fuck. I return the favor and throw her over in miss with her legs over my head. We kiss so much that we suck the air out of the room. She switches so I can see her juicy ass and takes her shoes off in the process. She yells "quatro bby, quatro" with her ass pointed in the air I can see her beautiful pussy. She has a "simp" or a perfect innie puss. I belive most paisa girls have this and it is a feature that I thank the gene pool for. I can see the sweat dripping off her pussy and I ram it in. She yells "duro duro" I go harder and harder. Finally I am about to burst and she flips back over. Kisses me then rips the rubber off and jerks me to completiom. The sound of her bracelets rattles loud and she jerks it harder and harder. I finish ALL over and cover her DD tits. I get a little in her nose but she laughs. All is well. We go into the bathroom, shower and we pause as we look in the mirror together. We both say "we look good together as a couple" We head back to the bed. She gives me a massage and we talk about life and love. I spend almost 3 hours there and drop about 150 K. It's good to fuck people you actually connect with. She is always fun and in another life we would have been real lovers. I kiss her goodnight and sleep well.
SavePros321
03-30-18, 16:30
I am all for following local customs, and I doubt very much that colombianos are tipping 20 k in a 30 k casa. When I was in Argentina, I never tipped in the privados or in the clubs, and I was still quite popular. My regular chicas who came to my house knew what they were getting, and knew better than to ask for more, or for taxi money. I kept my eye on inflation and gave them regular raises such that the amount of money I gave them maintained its purchasing power.
So, while I respect the point of view expressed by, for example, LV monger (whose handle indicates he may be from the tipping capital of the western hemisphere), I don't buy #s 2 and 4 in particular, and also do not think that what is customary in the US needs to be extrapolated to other countries and cultures whose tipping procedures are much less pervasive or extreme. Another thing I don't understand is tipping a hooker to perform a service she would rather not perform. Now, in the case of BBBJ, it is just a question of them trying to get extra for something they do all the time. But if a chica really doesn't like anal or CIM, and you tip her extra to do it, I think that is a power trip.I tip my airport driver. When I go to Lenos in Centro Commercial Santa Fe I always tell them to include the tip in the bill ("con propina inclusive". I think, LOL). The people I have come across have been extremely friendly and will work with you if you struggle a bit with your Spanish (I have often seen the same servers for years and my Spanish has 10 x'd over the years). It's never anything crazy though in terms of gratuity.
I don't however tip for bad service when it comes to chicas. Like if a chica will only do CBJ and will not be persuaded by a little extra pesos, then I am not going to still just give her the damn pesos without her working for it! Don't encourage bad behavior. Even with servers and drivers and such.
I don't tip the bus driver from the airport. Ja ja.
I don't tip the bus driver from the airport. Ja ja.I do. It's like what, 9,600 p I think, I give him a 10 k note and refuse the change. Not really interested in $.16 change.
I don't tip the bus driver from the airport. Ja ja.Not even for a BBBJ?
Iguana Six
03-31-18, 02:00
Ahh, lets make this forms what it is about, the reviews!
I see my reliable........... I kiss her goodnight and sleep well.Best report all week! Are you willing to share contact info?
1 day. Arrived on March 25 take uber from airport to mansion for 52 mil pesos It was morning time so women (who not speak any english) at mansion reception told me check in is 2 pm, so I leave my bag at reception grab a taxi and go to visit my first casa New life it was around 11 am man show me 5 or 6 girls one of them I like so I take her to room also buy one beer. The service was not bad I cum fast so decided to leave room quick and thought will pay just for 15 minutes but on the room door where is all price they don't have 15 minutes offer anymore so I stay 10 minutes more finish my beer and take whatsapp number from girl go out of room and pay 50 mil pesos. I walk outside and go look around at el centro after some walking I come to other casa fantasias 2 next to hotel premium plaza I make mistake and walk at hotel first on first floor and girl at reception ask (chicas) : the she look at me and with angry face said something but I know just spanish numbers and some words soi don't understand what she mean so I just walk away and found casa on ground floor just next to hotel. I walk inside and ask to show girls man show me just 1 ugly girl and said don't have anymore now come later or wait so I just left. Around 1 pm comeback mansion and reception boy told me my room will be ready after 20 minutes and he show me everything around. Finally later I get to my room and have a nap. Woke up around 4 pm and go have some food at santa fe mall and walk around pablado later comeback mansion sit next to swimming pool and have a chat with some guy he told me last night was like 15 girls at cave. Around 7 pm I check cave myself at masion but it was empty just couple of guys drinking beer so I left and comeback later around 11 pm it was 5 girls inside one of them was cute so I invite her sit next to me and bought her beer and we start some conversation on google translator after I ask her how much she want for long time or short time she said LT 450 mil and ST is 250 it makes me smile. I offer her for LT 300 and 150 mil ST. She agreeded 300 for 6 hours I said better go short time and agreeded 150 mil for 2 hours we finish drink and goback room. The girl have great attitude at bed and was good performer she make me cum 2 times and cum herself 1 time and after that she still was lying on bed and play with herself till I was drinking beer at room. After I take her whatsapp pay her and she left.
Wake up in the morning have free breakfast at mansion and jump to the taxi to el centro pay 12 mil for taxi to museum antioque and start walking around first casa I visited was chicas punto com they show me 8-10 girls I like first few but I forget their names till others girls shaking my hand and telling their names so I take other girl. The room is very average at this casa but girl give good service so. I take her whatsapp. I go out have some beer at local restaurant and walk to next place it was yakusa casa they show me just 4 girls and they was not good looking but I choose one girl and fuck her anyway the room at this place was not nice but girl give good service so I cum somehow. Later at night time I go again at mansion cave it was like 4-5 girls at 10 pm one was really good looking so I invite her sit to me and order her some cocktail for 10 mil pesos. She ask my name and text me on google translator if I would like to go at my room have sex with her. I said ok lets go I will give you 150 mil for 1 hour but she said no! She want 200 mil for 1 hour and didint go down so we not make any deal.
Wake up have a breakfast and later take taxi to el centro casa club de amigas sexy. I really like this casa many good looking girls clean and nice room the girl give good service. Later night time around 12 am I go mansion cave again was like 5 girls inside all was sitting some with guys and one of them was dancing on strip pole she invited me to come dance with her but I just want drink. I saw one girl I like but she was with other guy so I just sit and make conversation with other guy next to me later the guy who was sitting with girl I like left so I grab girl quickly and invite have a drink with me we sit have some talk on google translator she dance for me I ask her price she told me 200 mil but quickly accept when I offer 150 mil for 1-2 hours. We go back room have some beer after she done great blowjob without condom and we have good sex. I pay her and thought she is going out but she show me some club photo on her whatsapp and ask if I want go with her. We jump at taxi and go somewhere it was almost 2 pm but that place was till open it was like club playing music and selling alcohol with 4-5 diffrent rooms all rooms have just local colombians drinking and chatting and have like 6-8 girls inside. We sit and barmen come to us and ask what we want to drink for one corrona and aquila light it was 30 mil pesos (sounds like rip off) we drink and I ask my girl if all this girls sitting around is available and how much? She go speak with one girl and comeback to me and told like 100 mil for 1 hour or 30 minutes I not sure) and said that girl is from venesuela. Some girls at that club was cute. I didint see that place on map list so I will add photo with address of that club on end of my report maybe someone want to check it. So we finish drink beer and left that club on the street I stop taxi and jump inside. When taxi start go the meter start going like crazy in 30 seconds become like 7000 mil I point at meter and told driver stop the girl with me also saw meter this time and said something for him in spanish and he turn off meter we agree the price 10 mil back to mansion. We comeback at Mansion room with girl and I said I want go sleep and you can go also but she said is living far and try to call someone on phone to bring her back but nobody comes. I offer her to sleep here but I tell I don't pay you nothing at morning and she agree. In the morning she left and I check out from mansion to my airbnb apartament. This is a photo with club details.
Visited casa zandalay they show me maybe 10 diffrent girls I choose very tall one with nice body and she give great service. I like this place have cute girls and clean inside.
(Thursday) Wake up in a morning take uber from apartament to santa fe mall have breakfast here and decided to take taxi to turcos paradise casa I arrived ring the bell but nobody open so I walk around little bit and have a feeling most casas will be close because its almost easter. I sit at some el centro bar and text one girl on whatsapp from club de amigassexy and ask are they open today. Later she text me back they are close on Thursday and Friday and opening again on Saturday. I comeback santa fe mall mall and meet other monger have some beer together and he try call some other casas on his phone to ask are they open but nobody answer phones. I come back my apartament and remember one girl want to meet for threesome before but I was busy with other girls and she keep texting me everyday so I text her back this time and agree to meet her and her friend at my apartament for 100 mil each for 1. 5 hour and 50 mil taxis for roundtrip. So 250 mil in total for both. After 2 hours they arrive and both look worst than on photos she send me. Both girls have great bodies but small tits and not cute face. Both look like streets girls I fuck one after other both make blowjob without condom and let me cum 2 times. I pay them and they left.
Good Friday! As all casas is close today I decided to visit some nice places jump at bus to guatape in early morning at terminal de norte. Later comeback and try to text some whatsapp and facebook contacts. First girl who reply want 100 dollars at first but later go down to 200 mil pesos I refuse anyway because she was not so good looking! Second girl want 300 mil for 1 hour model type but its to much for me!! Other girl is doing escort at her place for 100 for 1 hour. I said 100 mil sounds good for me but she text me back 100 dollars not pesos: the all others girls was busy or can meet just other day so no deal again!! I found 1 girl for 150 mil we agree to meet at at 8 pm but suddenly she change her mind and asking 200 mil and plus taxi money so I just give up for today with new girls and I meet same girls second time very rare so I don't get anything tonight. Tomorrow will be casas opening again so no problem.
I do. It's like what, 9,600 p I think, I give him a 10 k note and refuse the change. Not really interested in $.16 change.It was 5.000 pesos last time I was there.
Could someone please share some Facebook contacts of women in Medellin? Thank you.
Could someone please share some Facebook contacts of women in Medellin? Thank you.Do a search in this thread for facebook, somebody posted a bunch of links sometime in the last year.
Your reports are excellent. Thank you very much for taking the time to write them. I hope others take note of how well you are able to get around and enjoy yourself in spite of not knowing much Spanish. You prove it can be done.
I think I might have spoiled the 15 minute rate at New Life by talking about it on here. I'm guessing guys asking about it might have clued in the management that they can impose a 30 minute minimum. It's not a big deal, none of us will go broke over it. I laughed out loud when I read about the angry hotel woman next to Fantasias. I wouldn't be surprised if that happens to her often. Your Zandaly and Amigas Sexxy descriptions were spot on I think. They are good bargains considering the staff and upkeep of the rooms.
Your mansion description reminded me of something someone wrote here a few weeks ago, that it's about the guys you meed there more than the girls. I'm looking forward to reading more of your reports.
Good Friday! As all casas is close today I decided to visit some nice places jump at bus to guatape in early morning at terminal de norte. Later comeback and try to text some whatsapp and facebook contacts. First girl who reply want 100 dollars at first but later go down to 200 mil pesos I refuse anyway because she was not so good looking! Second girl want 300 mil for 1 hour model type but its to much for me!! Other girl is doing escort at her place for 100 for 1 hour. I said 100 mil sounds good for me but she text me back 100 dollars not pesos: the all others girls was busy or can meet just other day so no deal again!! I found 1 girl for 150 mil we agree to meet at at 8 pm but suddenly she change her mind and asking 200 mil and plus taxi money so I just give up for today with new girls and I meet same girls second time very rare so I don't get anything tonight. Tomorrow will be casas opening again so no problem.
Visited casa tantra today taxi driver drop me on wrong street so was looking around little bit till I find. I ring a bell and man let me in sit at reception area. The place look really nice wooden furniture with shishas on it nice sofa and elephant statues on table. I come around 11.30 am morning and they show just 2 girls. I ask can I see more girls he told me accupado or something like that so I understand they are busy. Anyway I choose second girl her name was jesicca girl with read hair and many tattoos on her body she was looking great beautiful face and big ass. I pay 85 mil for 30 minutes +5 mil for beer. Man escort me at room and said wait here. The room was cozy some pictures at wall clean, have audio player. After few minutes girl come and ask me something in spanish of course I not understand. I quickly take of my clothes jump at shower and comeback at room jesicca was already naked just with strings on her. Wow she was looking great big perfect shape tits, big sexy ass, she add so lubricant on my dick and start to wank till it get hard after she put condom and make some blowjob later she jump on me and start to move it was beautifull to look when that big tits bouncing and she moaning!! In 10 minutes I cum she clean me I put on my clothes and finish drink beer. I ask her number but she didint give me. I said bye and left. I defenitely recomend this casa its nice atmosphere inside. Even I saw just 2 girls I like this place. Later today I will try energy or turcos casa if will be open.
Could someone please share some Facebook contacts of women in Medellin? Thank you.You can add girl name: melissa mejia on facebook girl with blonde hair and some tattoos she also has many beautiful friends like 20-30 diffrent girls. Ask her to send friends photos for you on whatsapp. They really beautiful girls but also asking 200 mil for 1 hour.
Mr Enternational
03-31-18, 21:24
she told me 200 mil but quickly accept when I offer 150 mil for 1-2 hours. We go back room have some beer after she done great blowjob without condom and we have good sex.
When taxi start go the meter start going like crazy in 30 seconds become like 7000 mil I point at meter and told driver stop
We comeback at Mansion room with girl and I said I want go sleep and you can go also but she said is living far and try to call someone on phone to bring her back but nobody comes. I offer her to sleep here but I tell I don't pay you nothing at morning and she agree.Serious man. You don't speak Spanish but obviously you are a master traveler and a master monger. Starting out with the Uber when everyone else is worrying about how much a taxi would cost. You refuse to be taken advantage of and do not run into pussy that you just have to have. You get BBBJ on GP when most of these guys claim they can not buy their way into one. You make reports including the prices and even considered others by having a flyer to show in case someone else wants to check it out.
I have to laugh about the part where the guy at the mansion told you there were 15 chicks in the cave last night, like it was really something. You were probably thinking mf I saw more chicks than that at 1 casa that I visited. You even get that chick to stay with you for free! How many people on this board would have even suggested such a thing? They are too busy handing out tips left and right when you are on the verge of getting a Mansion chick to pay you for staying in your room. LOL.
The only thing I haven't seen from you yet is a visit to the downtown strip clubs and Fase 2. But I see that you are not finished yet. I am fucking impressed by your reporting brother. I definitely will be going back to read your other 40 reports. I may be able to learn something from you!
Was near ayura metro station so jump on the metro bought single ticket for 2400 0 r 2600 mil not remember already change line at san antonio stop to estadio station. Take uber for 5000 mil to energy casa. (I think is minimum charge uber do at Colombia for short ride) its not big savings if I take just taxi from el pablado to energy it was like 12000 mil but anyway is was nice ride and can look some beautiful girls at metro. I told uber driver to wait me in case it will be closed. I walk to casa and metal gates was shut so it was closed. I come back to uber driver and show him address on my phone with turcos paradise casa address and told him I give him 8000 mil he agree and not use uber app anymore. The traffic at el centro was really bad and a lot of people on streets we reach turcos paradise casa and I told him to wait me again for 1 minute I go out of uber and ring the bell at turcos but nobody open like last time. (seems next time I need be more clever learn few spanish words and call to casas and ask are they open or not) I just back to uber and he bring me to santa fe mall at el pablado for 8000 mil. On the way back I show message on google translator.
With spannish to uber driver: not good day today for look chicas he was laughing and said si Go santa fe mall have some dinner drink couple of beers and comeback my apartament tonight want to try club maracaibo, barra ejecutiva or conejitas bar they are not for from each other so maybe its posible to walk if the place will not look dodgy later at night still have hope its will be open tonight: the seems easter is not best time to be at Colombia. Thanks Mr Enternational and Knowledge for showing interest to my reports!!
I'm in town for a bachelor party at the beginning of May. We've got arrangements in place or coming into place for most of the trip, but I'm getting into town on Wednesday, a day before the rest of the group, and I was thinking of kicking things off solo by visiting Loutron that afternoon. Any advice for a first-time visitor? I've heard good things and want to make the most of the visit:).
I have read the forums as much as I can and need you guys to fill in the blanks. My trip is not too far away.
Best strip clubs: Las isla, fase 2, Luna lunera, and San Diego.
Best casas / massage: Loutron, energy, and new life.
Can you guys add maybe 3 more cases to the list, and what are the cleanest casas in Centro which I understand is a poorer area.
Are there any more strip clubs to see.
I'm staying at torre Poblado hotel. Any casas or strip clubs near the hotel in walking distance. There is something to be said about waking up and just walking outside the hotel to a casa without a cab.
Thanks guys.
The Tall Man
04-01-18, 17:57
Was near ayura metro station so jump on the metro bought single ticket for 2400 0 r 2600 mil not remember already change line at san antonio stop to estadio station. Take uber for 5000 mil to energy casa. (I think is minimum charge uber do at Colombia for short ride) its not big savings if I take just taxi from el pablado to energy it was like 12000 mil but anyway is was nice ride and can look some beautiful girls at metro. I told uber driver to wait me in case it will be closed. I walk to casa and metal gates was shut so it was closed. I come back to uber driver and show him address on my phone with turcos paradise casa address and told him I give him 8000 mil he agree and not use uber app anymore. The traffic at el centro was really bad and a lot of people on streets we reach turcos paradise casa and I told him to wait me again for 1 minute I go out of uber and ring the bell at turcos but nobody open like last time. (seems next time I need be more clever learn few spanish words and call to casas and ask are they open or not) I just back to uber and he bring me to santa fe mall at el pablado for 8000 mil. On the way back I show message on google translator.
With spannish to uber driver: not good day today for look chicas he was laughing and said si Go santa fe mall have some dinner drink couple of beers and comeback my apartament tonight want to try club maracaibo, barra ejecutiva or conejitas bar they are not for from each other so maybe its posible to walk if the place will not look dodgy later at night still have hope its will be open tonight: the seems easter is not best time to be at Colombia. Thanks Mr Enternational and Knowledge for showing interest to my reports!!Yes I knew that all the casas would be closed both Thursday and Friday as this was the case last semana santa time from 2017. I was last night at club maracaibo and barra ejecutiva and needed to bust a nut so chose a spinner out of maracaibo, nothing stunning or spectacular in those shit hole rooms that you need to crawl on your knees on to get to from the back of the bar but for 80 mil I unloaded 4 days of man juice, jajajajaja.
TTM.
Last night take uber around 21.00 am from my apartament at pablado to el centro clubs start from barra ejecutiva and walk all the way to taberna victoria.
Barra ejecutiva: this place I like the most 20-25 girls inside maybe just 3-4 girls of my type, was 20-30 costumers inside, big area have bar at ground floor and some sittings space on first floor, big screen tv was showing football match other small tv on diffrent wall show porno. I ordered aquila light it was 10 mil pesos for bottle. Girls was dancing one in the time and taking clothes after their dance they walk too costumers tables and asking tips for dancing at first I was giving 2000 mil each but later I saw some colombians gives just 1000 mil so I start give some girls 1 k others I like more 2 k. I ask waiter how much for 30 minutes cost girls he told me 80 miI. I drink 3 beers here till I saw the girl I like after her dance she come to me ask the tip I give her 2000 mil and ask how much for 30 minutes she said 80 k I said vamonos girl escort me to bartender I gave him 100 mil and I saw girl take from him 50 mil and he give me 20 mil change so seems girls just getting 50 mil for herself for 80 mil charge. The girl I take was black girl with great body and big tits her name was Natalia 23 or 25 years old. The rooms at this place you need to go at man toilet first they have small door inside toilet where they open doors for you and you going inside after climb small staircases up. Rooms is very simple not so clean (reminds like rooms at yakusa casa) but its good to go for short time natalia was great at bed with nice attitude done cover blowjob after ride on me hard till I cum. I take her whatsapp number and left.
Club maracaibo just next doors to barra ejecutiva. Have around 10 girls inside I ask waiter how much the girls for 30 minutes he told me 60 mil and after I ask same other girl she told the same. Girls was not so good looking here maybe just 1-2 I like I drink one aquila light for 7 or 8000 mil tip one girl 2000 mil for dance and left.
Grill nueva avenida I like this place reminds me somehow like country bar with all this plastic red chairs and tables inside for sitting. Have around 10 girls inside. Just one of them was my taste. I sit order one aquila light it was just 5000 mil for bottle. One girl come to sit with me. We start chatting on google translator I order her a drink it cost also just 5000 mil. I ask how much the girls for 30 minutes she told me 50 mil and said lets go now. I text on my phone to her in spanish maybe next time because I have many girls today already and can't get hard anymore she laugh and text me back on my phone lets check and put her hand in my pants and try to wank for me maybe 10 seconds but its doesn't get hard she start to asking me to buy her other drink but I told I am leaving now and will buy her a drink next time. I take her whatsapp number finish my beer and left.
Conejitas bar show.
Walk inside order aquila light for 6 mil. Not many girls inside maybe just 7-8 but a lot of colombians costumers. Look some girls dancing tip one girl for dance ask waiter how much for 30 minutes he told me 70 mil. I drink my beer and left.
Taberna victoria this place is kind a joke. I walk inside saw just 2 girls one girl run to me hug and said something in spanish I didint understand. Many colombians guys everybody was looking at me I just look around and left. I walk to a taxi and go to fase dos.
Fase dos. When I was walking inside I give 50 mil for a guy and I knew entry is 10 mil but he give me just 30 mil back I told him diaz mil he look at me and give me back 10 mil more. This place is look nice I ordered club Colombia beer for 22 mil because they don't have aquila light just heineken and club Colombia. Have many beautiful girls inside but some look not much better than strip club girls at el centro many costumers inside and many girls also. Girls was dancing 2 at same time. Later one girl come to me and ask in english give some tip for dance like 1 dollar so I give her 3000 mil. I ask her how much for s. Ex she told me 190 mil. I decided to go back my apartament around 1 am at night try to book uber to fase dos but 2 drivers who was arriving to fase dos when they was near they both cancel the trip I think maybe they saw many taxi drivers waiting outside and change her mind so I walk outside I saw they selling food near fase dos outside. I ordered some not tasty steak with fries for 14 mil grab taxi and comeback my apartament.
About el centro: at daytime its like a place at big city with many peoples and cars no worries to walk at all if you use your common sense, but at night its becomes dodgy so many people sleeping on street or wondering around its not very comfortable to walk even short distances if you are alone. When I jump at taxi from. Taberna victoria after 200-400 metres I saw maybe 100 or more el centro homeless in one place they was standing like waiting free food from goverment or I don't have idea, but it was look scary I would not imagine myself at this place at night I was mongering at 5 diffrent african countries before but never seen so many homeless drug addicts at one place like at el centro.
Anyway is you use common sense mongering at el centro clubs at nights is not so bad. I enjoy mongering at medellin all girls I have give me good service and have nice attitude no complains. I wake up in a morning pack my stuff and catch uber from mall la frontera this time cost was 65 mil. Sitting at airport waiting my fly to Bogota will stay there for 1 night will try to visit santa fe. By the way one week ago when I arrive to medellin I catch.
Uber from airport to mansion and the driver was speaking good english and was nice guy so I take his number and ask how much he charge for 1 hour he told me 40 mil I don't know is expensive or not by medellin drivers price but if anybody want his number let me know on private message and I will share.
Surf Looker
04-01-18, 19:07
You can add girl name: melissa mejia on facebook girl with blonde hair and some tattoos she also has many beautiful friends like 20-30 diffrent girls. Ask her to send friends photos for you on whatsapp. They really beautiful girls but also asking 200 mil for 1 hour.https://www.facebook.com/valentina.vascogomez
https://www.facebook.com/marce.franco.104
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Go thru friends list, they likles, add all girls and message.
Login to see profile if say not available.
Last night take uber around 21.00 am from my apartament at pablado to el centro clubs start from barra ejecutiva and walk all the way to taberna victoria.
Barra ejecutiva: this place I like the most 20-25 girls inside maybe just 3-4 girls of my type, was 20-30 costumers inside, big area have bar at ground floor and some sittings space on first floor, big screen tv was showing football match other small tv on diffrent wall show porno. I ordered aquila light it was 10 mil pesos for bottle. Girls was dancing one in the time and taking clothes after their dance they walk too costumers tables and asking tips for dancing at first I was giving 2000 mil each but later I saw some colombians gives just 1000 mil so I start give some girls 1 k others I like more 2 k. I ask waiter how much for 30 minutes cost girls he told me 80 miI. I drink 3 beers here till I saw the girl I like after her dance she come to me ask the tip I give her 2000 mil and ask how much for 30 minutes she said 80 k I said vamonos girl escort me to bartender I gave him 100 mil and I saw girl take from him 50 mil and he give me 20 mil change so seems girls just getting 50 mil for herself for 80 mil charge. The girl I take was black girl with great body and big tits her name was Natalia 23 or 25 years old. The rooms at this place you need to go at man toilet first they have small door inside toilet where they open doors for you and you going inside after climb small staircases up. Rooms is very simple not so clean (reminds like rooms at yakusa casa) but its good to go for short time natalia was great at bed with nice attitude done cover blowjob after ride on me hard till I cum. I take her whatsapp number and left.
Club maracaibo just next doors to barra ejecutiva. Have around 10 girls inside I ask waiter how much the girls for 30 minutes he told me 60 mil and after I ask same other girl she told the same. Girls was not so good looking here maybe just 1-2 I like I drink one aquila light for 7 or 8000 mil tip one girl 2000 mil for dance and left.
Grill nueva avenida I like this place reminds me somehow like country bar with all this plastic red chairs and tables inside for sitting. Have around 10 girls inside. Just one of them was my taste. I sit order one aquila light it was just 5000 mil for bottle. One girl come to sit with me. We start chatting on google translator I order her a drink it cost also just 5000 mil. I ask how much the girls for 30 minutes she told me 50 mil and said lets go now. I text on my phone to her in spanish maybe next time because I have many girls today already and can't get hard anymore she laugh and text me back on my phone lets check and put her hand in my pants and try to wank for me maybe 10 seconds but its doesn't get hard she start to asking me to buy her other drink but I told I am leaving now and will buy her a drink next time. I take her whatsapp number finish my beer and left.
Conejitas bar show.
Walk inside order aquila light for 6 mil. Not many girls inside maybe just 7-8 but a lot of colombians costumers. Look some girls dancing tip one girl for dance ask waiter how much for 30 minutes he told me 70 mil. I drink my beer and left.
Taberna victoria this place is kind a joke. I walk inside saw just 2 girls one girl run to me hug and said something in spanish I didint understand. Many colombians guys everybody was looking at me I just look around and left. I walk to a taxi and go to fase dos.
Fase dos. When I was walking inside I give 50 mil for a guy and I knew entry is 10 mil but he give me just 30 mil back I told him diaz mil he look at me and give me back 10 mil more. This place is look nice I ordered club Colombia beer for 22 mil because they don't have aquila light just heineken and club Colombia. Have many beautiful girls inside but some look not much better than strip club girls at el centro many costumers inside and many girls also. Girls was dancing 2 at same time. Later one girl come to me and ask in english give some tip for dance like 1 dollar so I give her 3000 mil. I ask her how much for s. Ex she told me 190 mil. I decided to go back my apartament around 1 am at night try to book uber to fase dos but 2 drivers who was arriving to fase dos when they was near they both cancel the trip I think maybe they saw many taxi drivers waiting outside and change her mind so I walk outside I saw they selling food near fase dos outside. I ordered some not tasty steak with fries for 14 mil grab taxi and comeback my apartament.
About el centro: at daytime its like a place at big city with many peoples and cars no worries to walk at all if you use your common sense, but at night its becomes dodgy so many people sleeping on street or wondering around its not very comfortable to walk even short distances if you are alone. When I jump at taxi from. Taberna victoria after 200-400 metres I saw maybe 100 or more el centro homeless in one place they was standing like waiting free food from goverment or I don't have idea, but it was look scary I would not imagine myself at this place at night I was mongering at 5 diffrent african countries before but never seen so many homeless drug addicts at one place like at el centro.
Anyway is you use common sense mongering at el centro clubs at nights is not so bad. I enjoy mongering at medellin all girls I have give me good service and have nice attitude no complains. I wake up in a morning pack my stuff and catch uber from mall la frontera this time cost was 65 mil. Sitting at airport waiting my fly to Bogota will stay there for 1 night will try to visit santa fe. By the way one week ago when I arrive to medellin I catch.
Uber from airport to mansion and the driver was speaking good english and was nice guy so I take his number and ask how much he charge for 1 hour he told me 40 mil I don't know is expensive or not by medellin drivers price but if anybody want his number let me know on private message and I will share.Your reports are very informative and to the point. Prices that the locals pay.
I, too went to strip bars with travellers I met and over tipped the fatty dancers because I was following their lead.
You didn't let the doorman scam you. It doesn't convert to a lot of money in USD, but its the point. If foreigners laydown, or keep paying above and beyond what is the norm, then it becomes a dual priced system.
I always thought the ISG was for guys to learn from each other and get as much enjoyment and value as possible.
Why kill the goose that lays the golden eggs? LOL!
I believe your report is very helpful for mongers like myself who want to enjoy Medellin before prices get out of hand.
Your view of Centro at night is pretty much what I experienced, thanks.
https://www.facebook.com/valentina.vascogomez
https://www.facebook.com/marce.franco.104
https://www.facebook.com/johannalondono7777
https://www.facebook.com/moradita0512
https://www.facebook.com/meellissa.galeeanoblandonn.7
https://www.facebook.com/kelly.rodriguez.142
https://www.facebook.com/carolinafernandezs00
https://www.facebook.com/carolynecastrom
https://www.facebook.com/m.giraldo.37
Go thru friends list, they likles, add all girls and message.
Login to see profile if say not available.Are all of these confirmed? They are much better looking than the ones I've been able to find.
I am planning a trip to Colombia in May or December. For a May trip, I would fly into BOG. Planned itinerary would be BOG-Pereira-Medellin-BOG. All the intra Colombia one way tickets are under $100, so convenience is more important than saving a few pesos. For the Pereira-Medellin & Medellin-BOG legs, which Medellin airport would be the best choice?
Are all of these confirmed? They are much better looking than the ones I've been able to find.Notice some of the profile not updated for a couple of years?
I have read the forums as much as I can and need you guys to fill in the blanks. My trip is not too far away.
Best strip clubs: Las isla, fase 2, Luna lunera, and San Diego.
Best casas / massage: Loutron, energy, and new life.
Can you guys add maybe 3 more cases to the list, and what are the cleanest casas in Centro which I understand is a poorer area.
Are there any more strip clubs to see.
I'm staying at torre Poblado hotel. Any casas or strip clubs near the hotel in walking distance. There is something to be said about waking up and just walking outside the hotel to a casa without a cab.
Thanks guys.I think tantra is better and cheaper than energy. Fewer choices but usually good enough.
Surf Looker
04-01-18, 23:20
Are all of these confirmed? They are much better looking than the ones I've been able to find.You prob finding the young ones, mansion braces girls.
https://www.facebook.com/leiidyniikan
https://www.facebook.com/pamela.vergara.756
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100012790594294
https://www.facebook.com/kriistenfox07
https://www.facebook.com/jenniferjohana.arboleda
https://www.facebook.com/daniela.vargas.54390876
You prob finding the young ones, mansion braces girls.
https://www.facebook.com/leiidyniikan
https://www.facebook.com/pamela.vergara.756
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100012790594294
https://www.facebook.com/kriistenfox07
https://www.facebook.com/jenniferjohana.arboleda
https://www.facebook.com/daniela.vargas.54390876Thanks, some have mentioned they know the mansion at least. I'll add these to the Target list.
BlueChange
04-02-18, 00:40
https://www.facebook.com/valentina.vascogomez
https://www.facebook.com/carolynecastrom
Go thru friends list, they likles, add all girls and message.
Login to see profile if say not available.I think that Carolyn is a man or TS or something. I seen her on IG for years and something didn't sit right. The elbows to arm ratio. Also way back she was friends with lots of TS and now she doesn't follow them and was even tagged at some gay bar. If someone has actually seen her please confirm.
Mr Enternational
04-02-18, 01:09
I think that Carolyn is a man or TS or something. I seen her on IG for years and something didn't sit right. The elbows to arm ratio. Also way back she was friends with lots of TS and now she doesn't follow them and was even tagged at some gay bar. If someone has actually seen her please confirm.I don't need to actually see him. I see that big ass head that he has. And all that fake ass hair and fake tits. What is all this ratio bullshit? It don't take a rocket scientist to see that is a man. In the first picture I was able to see that.
Surf Looker
04-02-18, 01:11
I think that Carolyn is a man or TS or something. I seen her on IG for years and something didn't sit right. The elbows to arm ratio. Also way back she was friends with lots of TS and now she doesn't follow them and was even tagged at some gay bar. If someone has actually seen her please confirm.No never seen her. But her friends not TS, Vanessa Velequez or something.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BbDCsyzFwgC/?hl=en&taken-by=carolyne.castro
https://www.instagram.com/carolyne.castro/?hl=en
I am planning a trip to Colombia in May or December. For a May trip, I would fly into BOG. Planned itinerary would be BOG-Pereira-Medellin-BOG. All the intra Colombia one way tickets are under $100, so convenience is more important than saving a few pesos. For the Pereira-Medellin & Medellin-BOG legs, which Medellin airport would be the best choice?For Pereira-Medellin, you can fly into Olaya Herrera. It is more convenient because it is in downtown Medellin. Only small commuter aircraft use that airport. You can also use that airport for Medellin-Bogota, but the plane will be a turbo-prop. Jose Maria Cordova (MDE) airport is outside Medellin in Rio Negro. It is about 45 minutes from downtown Medellin. It is an international airport. If you don't mind small aircraft, use Olaya Herrera. If you want larger, jet aircraft, use MDE. Although, there may not be any jets direct from Pereira to Medellin.
For Pereira-Medellin, you can fly into Olaya Herrera. It is more convenient because it is in downtown Medellin. Only small commuter aircraft use that airport. You can also use that airport for Medellin-Bogota, but the plane will be a turbo-prop. Jose Maria Cordova (MDE) airport is outside Medellin in Rio Negro. It is about 45 minutes from downtown Medellin. It is an international airport. If you don't mind small aircraft, use Olaya Herrera. If you want larger, jet aircraft, use MDE. Although, there may not be any jets direct from Pereira to Medellin.Thanks. I had hoped the local airport was more convenient for intra country travel. Not thrilled with props / puddle jumpers, but the PEI-Medellin flight is less than 1 hour. Medellin-BOG would be for connecting to my USA return flight, so convenience would be mas importante. As someone from the US, it is amazing to me how cheap intra country travel is outside the US. When I looked at intra Romanian flights last year, some of the tickets were around $20-25.
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