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Take wolf for example, my first time in Medellin, I learned a lot from Wolf. I watched how he moved, how he interacted with people and how people responded. I notice that whenever we went out, he kept a wad of 2 mil pesos. When we were in the clubs he kept a wad of 2 mil pesos, everywhere we went, he kept a wad of 2 mil pesos. I noticed how grateful the streetwalkers, bums, door attendants were when he passed out these 2 mil pesos. Went back and did my math, yep, he was giving out about $0. 70 cents. Now we are on the board talking about how Americans drive up the price of everything.The thing I like to do the best if you remember is get all leftovers to go when we ate and find some poor old lady or old man begging on the street and give them the bag of food. You don't have to look far in Centro. Or that guy on Maracaibo up by Juinin walking street who has no legs.
PolloNegro
04-26-18, 23:18
The thing I like to do the best if you remember is get all leftovers to go when we ate and find some poor old lady or old man begging on the street and give them the bag of food. You don't have to look far in Centro. Or that guy on Maracaibo up by Juinin walking street who has no legs.And most of the people were so friendly to us. I'm just amazed that there seems to be such a disliking to tipping. You would have to give out 130 tips at 2000 mil pesos to give away a $100 bucks. The quality of these girls and their willingness to please, is just perfect for me! To each his or her own!
MedellinGringo
04-27-18, 02:09
Well, MedellinGringo, I'm sure you are def right.
- what is the average pricing at Mansion nowadays BTW, if you don't mind me asking?
- how much is the difference that a chick can charge between different guys, is it mainly stranger V. S. Regular or more like newbie V. S. Vet?
Thanks!
first post?
ColombiaLover
04-27-18, 02:14
To me, even 300 K for 1. 5 hour is way overpriced. She just became more overpriced in the last year. Crazy that someone will pay this.
I go to foreign countries to monger, I usually have a good idea of what the going rate is when I go. I always like the girls to be happy with the arrangement, it usually brings better service in my opinion. That being said, I have seen the prices climb in Medellin. I was texting a chica this week getting ready for my up coming trip. Beautiful 21 year old I found last year. Now she is asking for $600 K for 1 1/2 hours. Doubled from a year ago. She must have gotten really spoiled by someone. I don't mind spending a little more to get what I want, but I won't get ridiculous.
People have some nerve going into foreign countries and acting the way they do.
Mongering is a luxury not a need whereas on the other end of it the girl is probably in desperate need.
Do you realize we are the vulnerable ones in another country.
Colombia is not like DR or other poor countries that welcome people like us. As soon as we get off the airplane they know we came to fuck their women and they don't welcome that.
My point is spending a little extra can only help but being too frugal and cheap can cause problems at the wrong place.Unless you get off the plane wearing a shirt that says "I came here to pay women for sex" they have no idea why you're in Colombia and most people couldn't care less. Unless you're being a complete ass, nearly everyone will treat you politely. However, showing a bit of discretion is a good idea.
I personally believe in tipping, reasonably and where appropriate. In a casa, if service met my expectations, I'll give 10 - 20 k. I won't however, pay for extras. Chances are the BJ, covered or not, won't be worth an extra 40 - 50 k, so why pay?
GoneFishin
04-27-18, 02:36
I'm back in Medellin after more than a year. Staying at Hotel Villa Real on la sententa a block from Metro station Estadio. Very economical place, like 70 k pesos a night but I'm close to centro via Metro and the spas like Tantra, Secret, Energy and Blue. Abydos use to be on the list but was closed the last time I was here. Since everyone is on the pricing and tip theme I can say from my perspective prices are going up. Tantra is, for today anyway, 135 k pesos for an hour of full service. I like these Laureles spas as they have better ambiance and I just feel safer walking around that area. Even if the safety is just in my head its real to me. That chick Wolf refers to as estrella use to go by the name luna and was a regular of mine. Price was 150 k to 200 k an hour in my room depending on how I felt the performance was. That pricing held for 2 years during which I would return to MDE on a regular bases. I reached out to her and now she values her little box at 350 k an hour. Says she has many clients paying that. Good for her but I will not be one of them. Needless to say she is off my list. I can do her at fase dos for almost half that if the need arises. But there are always more and more chicas at everyone's price point. I agree that tipping by gringos makes many of the girls kinda "expect" it regardless of service given. I personally give 10 k to the spa chicas en laureles when the service was good and she had a smile on her face and "pretended" to enjoy her time with me. None of us are going to be able to prevent others from paying what they want. They can read on this board what are the normal prices but in the end many I feel just want to show off. Buts its their money and I can still find more chicas than I could possible utilize at my price point.
Tantra had a nice selection today, about 7 girls of different shapes and colors. I enjoyed a petite one and she gave me an enthusiastic BJ which earned her the 10 k tip. I really enjoy the patio bar in the back of the house. You can chill and have a drink with a girl before deciding. The rooms are nice and spacious. I really don't like the cramp rooms found in centro. The madam mentioned that they are opened one Sunday every month. Which one you will have to call. Cra 80 No 44 b-139.
I also tried Secret Spa but they only had 2 chicas out of 5 available. I will wait to see the five since they have a viewing fee. 140 HR for full service.
GF.
... I was texting a chica this week getting ready for my up coming trip. Beautiful 21 year old I found last year. Now she is asking for $600 K for 1 1/2 hours. Doubled from a year ago. She must have gotten really spoiled by someone. I don't mind spending a little more to get what I want, but I won't get ridiculous.Many times when a chica asks for that amount it is because she doesn't want to be with the guy. I'm not saying that is the case with you and that chica.
I've had some chicas tell me they will see me for less than the last time when I hesitate about inviting them. I am an old guy and I'm beyond my romancing years, but I am always clean and I treat the chicas well.
PolloNegro
04-27-18, 03:27
I go to foreign countries to monger, I usually have a good idea of what the going rate is when I go. I always like the girls to be happy with the arrangement, it usually brings better service in my opinion. That being said, I have seen the prices climb in Medellin. I was texting a chica this week getting ready for my up coming trip. Beautiful 21 year old I found last year. Now she is asking for $600 K for 1 1/2 hours. Doubled from a year ago. She must have gotten really spoiled by someone. I don't mind spending a little more to get what I want, but I won't get ridiculous.And don't get a minimum of 8 hours, they are taking you through the ringer. That's nearly half a months salary my friend. But spend it like you choose. I know many on the board are just shooting the breeze and getting by on the SSI checks. I have found 2 reliable sources on the board and they have lined me up with more girls than I stand to see. I'm not paying $600 k for a girl in Colombia, not when I can see 20 girls for that same rate in the Vera cruz area of centro. Pollo negro is out!
MedellinGringo
04-27-18, 05:07
I go to foreign countries to monger, I usually have a good idea of what the going rate is when I go. I always like the girls to be happy with the arrangement, it usually brings better service in my opinion. That being said, I have seen the prices climb in Medellin. I was texting a chica this week getting ready for my up coming trip. Beautiful 21 year old I found last year. Now she is asking for $600 K for 1 1/2 hours. Doubled from a year ago. She must have gotten really spoiled by someone. I don't mind spending a little more to get what I want, but I won't get ridiculous.Met a stunner at La Isla one night. Asked her how much to come back to my place.
She says 700 K. I asked her why does she hate me. We just met. I laughed and then just walked away.
I think that is what you should do also.
Met a stunner at La Isla one night. Asked her how much to come back to my place.
She says 700 K. I asked her why does she hate me. We just met. I laughed and then just walked away.
I think that is what you should do also.Don't worry, I have already decided to move on. I don't have a problem lining up chicas, all $300 k or less for at least 3 hours. I won't be spending anything near $60 k. I didn't just fall off the turnip truck.
I have booked my July trip to Medellin. I have an apartment in Laureles. I decided I wanted to stay somewhere a little less touristy that Poblado and Parque LLeras. Any suggestions for the Laureles area?
That chick Wolf refers to as estrella use to go by the name luna and was a regular of mine. Price was 150 k to 200 k an hour in my room depending on how I felt the performance was. That pricing held for 2 years during which I would return to MDE on a regular bases. I reached out to her and now she values her little box at 350 k an hour. Says she has many clients paying that. Good for her but I will not be one of them. Needless to say she is off my list. I can do her at fase dos for almost half that if the need arises.
She will come over for 300 k, at least she did last month, but then again she knows I have presents for the girls and picked her up some cripa and we have met before and get along. And she does have to travel a long way from Rio Negro.
At FaseII 190 k + 10 k door + drinks (20 k+ to 110 k) means 220 k+ min to see her at the club, I don't mind another 80 k to have her come to my hotel where I have my tunes and my drinks / snacks and we can dance and have fun and take a hot water shower etc.
Once she started working at Fase it is no surprised she got spoiled, basically only Colombian high rollers are going to hang out there.
She did quote me a ridiculous high figure to spend a day with me, Parque Arvi, dinner, my hotel etc. (she wanted 300 k for the hotel time and 200 k a HR for the park / dinner etc. LOL. I told her it was 500 k or never mind and she took it. I actually got two days out of it cause we got soaked at Parque Arvi so she caught a bus home from there and then came back the next day for dinner and fun. (which I was a little surprised she didn't blow me off as she already had the $).
My daily budget on vacation is usually around $200 a day for girls so I didn't mind $166 for 2 days company from a very cute chick whom I get along with. Hate to think what that would have run from a pro in the US.
Met a stunner at La Isla one night. Asked her how much to come back to my place.
She says 700 K. I asked her why does she hate me. We just met. I laughed and then just walked away.
I think that is what you should do also.One of the main reasons I haven't been to La Isla, I have read what the girls there want for TLN and it is also a long cab ride from my hotel in Centro.
Some of us are geographically challenged.
Intelligent mongers know that Tipping is a city in China!
Now what? lol
GoneFishin
04-28-18, 00:42
I had planned to visit Energy spa but decided to take the crap shoot known as web-page girls. Picked Melissa from webpage below. You can google her number to find more pics of her from other sites. As luck would have it she is very close to my hotel on la 70. Same building as secret spa, Carrera 70 a 43-48 in building Edificio Huatipan Apt #1102. She quoted me 150 k HR which I know more than likely is an up-sell from 130 k for locals. Built in tip. She was exactly as her pics minus the tattoos which she has a bunch. Nice blanca, all natural from Pasto and very pretty IMHO. DATY was fantastic, fresh sweet honey pot. Room is sparse but with shower, towels, communicate via whatsapp. I plan to visit her again before I leave.
http://www.paisasdivinas.com/melissa/melissa_prepagos.php
GoneFishin
04-28-18, 00:54
My daily budget on vacation is usually around $200 a day for girls so I didn't mind $166 for 2 days company from a very cute chick whom I get along with. Hate to think what that would have run from a pro in the US.She is definitely a fun girl to hang out with. I have traveled with her myself and know of what you speak. I've enjoyed my time with her but she is out of my price range now as I monger for 3 months at a time and cannot keep up a 200 us a day girly budget nor would I want to. We all place value differently and I'm happy she is earning more as she was undervalued IMHO when she started at the centro clubs.
Now on to newer horizons.
GF.
I have booked my July trip to Medellin. I have an apartment in Laureles. I decided I wanted to stay somewhere a little less touristy that Poblado and Parque LLeras. Any suggestions for the Laureles area?There seems to be a few Milerotico / photoprepagos girls that have a house / s near La 70. Energy and Tantra massage places are in the area. I have had SA (seeking arranagements) or Tinder ladies come to my apt in laurles it was easy for them to find. Usually.
I'm back in Medellin after more than a year. Staying at Hotel Villa Real on la sententa a block from Metro station Estadio. Very economical place, like 70 k pesos a night but I'm close to centro via Metro and the spas like Tantra, Secret, Energy and Blue. Abydos use to be on the list but was closed the last time I was here. Since everyone is on the pricing and tip theme I can say from my perspective prices are going up. Tantra is, for today anyway, 135 k pesos for an hour of full service. I like these Laureles spas as they have better ambiance and I just feel safer walking around that area. Even if the safety is just in my head its real to me. That chick Wolf refers to as estrella use to go by the name luna and was a regular of mine. Price was 150 k to 200 k an hour in my room depending on how I felt the performance was. That pricing held for 2 years during which I would return to MDE on a regular bases. I reached out to her and now she values her little box at 350 k an hour. Says she has many clients paying that. Good for her but I will not be one of them. Needless to say she is off my list. I can do her at fase dos for almost half that if the need arises. But there are always more and more chicas at everyone's price point. I agree that tipping by gringos makes many of the girls kinda "expect" it regardless of service given. I personally give 10 k to the spa chicas en laureles when the service was good and she had a smile on her face and "pretended" to enjoy her time with me. None of us are going to be able to prevent others from paying what they want. They can read on this board what are the normal prices but in the end many I feel just want to show off. Buts its their money and I can still find more chicas than I could possible utilize at my price point.
Tantra had a nice selection today, about 7 girls of different shapes and colors. I enjoyed a petite one and she gave me an enthusiastic BJ which earned her the 10 k tip. I really enjoy the patio bar in the back of the house. You can chill and have a drink with a girl before deciding. The rooms are nice and spacious. I really don't like the cramp rooms found in centro. The madam mentioned that they are opened one Sunday every month. Which one you will have to call. Cra 80 No 44 b-139.
I also tried Secret Spa but they only had 2 chicas out of 5 available. I will wait to see the five since they have a viewing fee. 140 HR for full service.
GF.I won't go to secret a waste of time, I like tantra the best and then Energy has more girls but costs a little more. Either of them are WAY bettter than Secret, don't waste your time.
I'm thinking of getting an Airbnb in laureles without a doorman. Anyone care to chime in on advantages / disadvantages? I've seen some prepago ads that say they only go to apartments with doorman. Has anyone had trouble getting chicas to come to apartments with doorman?
She is a nice find. Are those hair extensions? I like her Latina style ass. BBBJ included in that price?
I had planned to visit Energy spa but decided to take the crap shoot known as web-page girls. Picked Melissa from webpage below. You can google her number to find more pics of her from other sites. As luck would have it she is very close to my hotel on la 70. Same building as secret spa, Carrera 70 a 43-48 in building Edificio Huatipan Apt #1102. She quoted me 150 k HR which I know more than likely is an up-sell from 130 k for locals. Built in tip. She was exactly as her pics minus the tattoos which she has a bunch. Nice blanca, all natural from Pasto and very pretty IMHO. DATY was fantastic, fresh sweet honey pot. Room is sparse but with shower, towels, communicate via whatsapp. I plan to visit her again before I leave.
http://www.paisasdivinas.com/melissa/melissa_prepagos.php
I'm thinking of getting an Airbnb in laureles without a doorman. Anyone care to chime in on advantages / disadvantages? I've seen some prepago ads that say they only go to apartments with doorman. Has anyone had trouble getting chicas to come to apartments with doorman?I haven't had a problem with chicas coming to apartments with a doorman, but I have had problems with them getting past the front desk. In one instance, a chica visited me and the front desk scanned her ID into their computer. Two days later, she came back without her ID and they would not allow her to go to my apartment.
Now, I only rent apartments without a doorman. I haven't had any problem with chicas refusing to visit because of no doorman. For me, it is much better to not have a doorman. I have seen a few ads that say they only visit apartments with a doorman. I wonder if they will actually turn down a payday. If so, there are many more chicas available.
Brother Wolf,
You have proven yourself one of the most sensible and knowing guys on this site. I value your information and enjoy reading your posts. So I hope you know I'm not trying to have a go at you. I make this comment whenever I see references to "back home" prices. Provider prices in Europe, the US or anywhere that isn't where we are buying. Don't matter. As soon as I think about how much more something would cost back home I take it as a signal that I am paying more than I need to. I'm guilty of it and I try to avoid it. It's justifying overpaying. There is no right or wrong answer but it's one of those red flags we can use to keep ourselves out of trouble.
My daily budget on vacation is usually around $200 a day for girls so I didn't mind $166 for 2 days company from a very cute chick whom I get along with. Hate to think what that would have run from a pro in the US.
ColombiaLover
04-28-18, 05:22
I grew tired of the Mansion / Castillo and even staying in apartments near Lleras. So I started staying in an apartment in laureles. In May it will be my 4th time. I like the area. It is flat. My apartment is two blocks from La 70 and also near Avenida San Juna and stores and restaurants and pharmacies. The Unicentro mall is not far away. If you want casas, the estadio casas are close (see a very recent post below from another guy). And centro is close. I rarely use casas. All of my amigas just come to my apartment. Most of them are FB girls or some I met at the Mansion years ago. And I see a few non-pros. I have no real desire to go back to Poblado, especially since my recent run-in with the cops in Lleras.
I have booked my July trip to Medellin. I have an apartment in Laureles. I decided I wanted to stay somewhere a little less touristy that Poblado and Parque LLeras. Any suggestions for the Laureles area?
I'm thinking of getting an Airbnb in laureles without a doorman. Anyone care to chime in on advantages / disadvantages? I've seen some prepago ads that say they only go to apartments with doorman. Has anyone had trouble getting chicas to come to apartments with doorman?My last 2 Airbnb we're small 3 or 4 story buildings in estadio. I had girls coming over and never an issue. I did have one girl say she prefers hotels or places with doorman. I guess I like not having to get each girl checked in by the doorman. I guess I feel strange going by the doorman each day and he knows I have 2 Chicas come over everyday.
Brother Wolf,
You have proven yourself one of the most sensible and knowing guys on this site. I value your information and enjoy reading your posts. So I hope you know I'm not trying to have a go at you. I make this comment whenever I see references to "back home" prices. Provider prices in Europe, the US or anywhere that isn't where we are buying. Don't matter. As soon as I think about how much more something would cost back home I take it as a signal that I am paying more than I need to. I'm guilty of it and I try to avoid it. It's justifying overpaying. There is no right or wrong answer but it's one of those red flags we can use to keep ourselves out of trouble.No worries. I may have worded that poorly, really for a FaseII cutie 500 k for 2 days is not too bad. Obviously my money would have gone farther with one of my Centro chicks. LOL. But FaseII girls are the US equivalent of Doll House girls, spoiled and used to getting more $ but hopefully hot enough to make up the difference.
My guess is the girls prefer a doorman be present for their own safety.
My last 2 Airbnb we're small 3 or 4 story buildings in estadio. I had girls coming over and never an issue. I did have one girl say she prefers hotels or places with doorman. I guess I like not having to get each girl checked in by the doorman. I guess I feel strange going by the doorman each day and he knows I have 2 Chicas come over everyday.
I like a couple of the restaurants in Provenza that don't have Laureles branches, and sometimes I will meet people for a quick drink in Lleras. Usually during the afternoon or early evening. That's about it really. I would probably hang around Poblado more if I were more of a night owl I guess.
I grew tired of the Mansion / Castillo and even staying in apartments near Lleras. So I started staying in an apartment in laureles. In May it will be my 4th time. I like the area. It is flat. My apartment is two blocks from La 70 and also near Avenida San Juna and stores and restaurants and pharmacies. The Unicentro mall is not far away. If you want casas, the estadio casas are close (see a very recent post below from another guy). And centro is close. I rarely use casas. All of my amigas just come to my apartment. Most of them are FB girls or some I met at the Mansion years ago. And I see a few non-pros. I have no real desire to go back to Poblado, especially since my recent run-in with the cops in Lleras.
ColombiaLover
04-28-18, 20:24
Many of the apartments in Laureles and Estadio are smaller buildings and have no doorman. I actually like it. If you are newer and seeing girls you do not know and are worried about them being under 18 or potentially scamming / robbing you, stick with the doorman. But I don't feel I need it. I have more privacy. There is less noise (fewer apartments). And I have not had a chica yet who did not like coming to the apartment, although I am sure there are those who might prefer a hotel or a Poblado address.
PS - another thing I like about the Laureles/Estadio area is easier access for most of the girls. Girls coming from Bello, Manrique, Aranjuez, Floresta, La America, etc. are much close to Laureles than to Poblado. So that makes for a faster trip (especially if you are looking for a short notice girl) and a cheaper taxi (if you chose to pay her taxi). I have a few amigas who live in Estadio or Floresta, so their cab fare is the minimum. My only problem is when I rarely see a chica from Sabaneta or Envigado or Itagui....they have a longer and much more expensive (all relative). I have thought about trying to stay in Sabaneta or Envigado, but have not done so because of the distance for my usual chicas.
My last 2 Airbnb we're small 3 or 4 story buildings in estadio. I had girls coming over and never an issue. I did have one girl say she prefers hotels or places with doorman. I guess I like not having to get each girl checked in by the doorman. I guess I feel strange going by the doorman each day and he knows I have 2 Chicas come over everyday.
GoneFishin
04-28-18, 22:03
She is a nice find. Are those hair extensions? I like her Latina style ass. BBBJ included in that price?Negative on the hair extensions. All natural and some of her ads state anal available. So I'm sure BBBJ is on the table for a price. She prefers to use her own condoms which can be a little tight. Advertises as 24 hrs as well.
HansLee3509
04-29-18, 01:00
I have been looking more toward Envigado and Laureles, but have stayed with what I like because my stays have been limited to 7-10 days, and the Blux fit those needs perfectly. I also like Belen, but have not investigated it much. So far the place I see myself spending 1+ months in is La Floresta. Reasonably safe neighborhood with excellent access to the Metro. I just do not know if I can find an apartment without a fiador. Since I have no intentions of living there year-around, I need a furnished place that is turn-key with all the utilities, cable tv and internet. Unfortunately, most of these are located in the higher strata areas with those type of neighbors that do not appreciate our lifestyle. I am not so sure that it is the partying that gets the neighbors angry, other than weeknights, because Colombians know how to party hard. I think it is more about the rotating door of girls in and out of the building all hours of the day and night that they do not appreciate. From my understanding, a large majority of the Blux units are owned by foreigners, who purchased as rental properties. This ownership percentage does not allow the building to craft all encompassing rules that deny short-term guests in all units. But I have noticed more and more Blux units renting with terms that do not cater to our lifestyle just like bars and resturantes en Lleras have adopted. Perhaps these are the ones where the owners have asked security to ensure those rules are followed?
Now that I am retired, I am hopeful to be able to spend a month or more each time I visit, so that will require me to pursue lower cost alternatives. I am less interested in new girls, generally sticking with a tried and true stable of amigas that never cease to show me a good time. Plus at my age, a 3 per day chica diet is no longer affordable, nor do I have the energy for more than a couple per week. LOL.HigGuys,
Does it mean you'll now have more problem getting them into Blux to visit you? Could any kindly elaborate on the new rule? I was interested in booking some of the apartment there next month but I'm a little bit worried?
ColombiaLover
04-29-18, 01:14
There are a lot of places I like better than Lleras. La 70. La 33. Strip in Aranjuez (not suggested for newbies). Discos in Manrique (not suggested for newbies).
I like a couple of the restaurants in Provenza that don't have Laureles branches, and sometimes I will meet people for a quick drink in Lleras. Usually during the afternoon or early evening. That's about it really. I would probably hang around Poblado more if I were more of a night owl I guess.
There are a lot of places I like better than Lleras. La 70. La 33. Strip in Aranjuez (not suggested for newbies). Discos in Manrique (not suggested for newbies).Barrio Obrero, Carrera 52 & Calle 33 in Bello looks like great fun also:
The blond at 1:26, wow!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZlLEmYOgME&index=6&t=112s&list=FLKmbj3XF1ryOYtieVrQey4g
I'm more of a daytime crawler but I've been to la 70 and other round the way nightspots, including Centro bars and some noisy places up in Paris. Even in my younger years I didn't do a lot of running around late at night. Newbie or not, it's more about knowing how to handle yourself in marginal areas of big cities.
I agree Lleras can be pretty boring.
There are a lot of places I like better than Lleras. La 70. La 33. Strip in Aranjuez (not suggested for newbies). Discos in Manrique (not suggested for newbies).
I was going to stay at the Blux but when I messaged the owners of the airbnbs about guest they made it a point to say sex workers. I told them it would be friends not prepaids but they are woman and I didn't get answers that I had faith in that it wouldn't be an issue if there would be a few different ones so I booked somewhere else. Just didn't want to take the risk
HigGuys,
Does it mean you'll now have more problem getting them into Blux to visit you? Could any kindly elaborate on the new rule? I was interested in booking some of the apartment there next month but I'm a little bit worried?,
What's the going rate in dollars from airport to Poblado by taxi.
Mr Enternational
04-29-18, 04:05
What's the going rate in dollars from airport to Poblado by taxi.You can compare it to this. Why worry about dollars in Colombia?
HansLee3509
04-29-18, 04:29
I was going to stay at the Blux but when I messaged the owners of the airbnbs about guest they made it a point to say sex workers. I told them it would be friends not prepaids but they are woman and I didn't get answers that I had faith in that it wouldn't be an issue if there would be a few different ones so I booked somewhere else. Just didn't want to take the risk.Oh, really? Which building did you end up going for then, if you don't mind me asking? Thanks Newbie911.
AngleSlam41
04-29-18, 06:44
Sup y'all, arrived MDE today for first mongering trip. Of course my uber driver from airport was immediately talking up 'his girls' who wanted 350 k / HR.
Went to Loutron with 250 k + 100 USD (ye I screwed up not exchanging more). Bouncer said 290 k going rate which driver nominally agreed was fair price. Almost convinced me despite knowing full well that is an absurd price. But when mentioned cover I finally resolved to walk away.
The couple of seemingly solid photoprepagos for 150 k / each I had lined up flaked out (I started scouting too late I think).
Doing this solo with Google translator at my side, will approach tomorrow with better approach. Maybe check out tantra.
What's the going rate in dollars from airport to Poblado by taxi.I think it is now 65,000 COP. It is a fixed rate. The taxi drivers probably won't accept dollars.
Will be second time to Medellin. Is Mayorista worth a visit? Any advice for visiting there. Also what are some suggestions for strip clubs that are good value and in not so shady areas, prices, quality? Thanks.
Sup y'all, arrived MDE today for first mongering trip. Of course my uber driver from airport was immediately talking up 'his girls' who wanted 350 k / HR.
Went to Loutron with 250 k + 100 USD (ye I screwed up not exchanging more). Bouncer said 290 k going rate which driver nominally agreed was fair price. Almost convinced me despite knowing full well that is an absurd price. But when mentioned cover I finally resolved to walk away.
The couple of seemingly solid photoprepagos for 150 k / each I had lined up flaked out (I started scouting too late I think).
Doing this solo with Google translator at my side, will approach tomorrow with better approach. Maybe check out tantra.It is understood that Loutron is expensive. Nevertheless the best Colombian chicas I've sessioned have been in there. However, for some reason I get a bad vibe in that place.
ColombiaLover
04-29-18, 16:31
While we've talked about it before, good to refresh the conversation for newbies. White taxis from airport. 65 mil to Poblado and 50 mil on the return. If you like the driver, get his card. I have never had a problem with the white taxi collectivo. I have my regular driver now and if he is busy, he sends a friend in another white taxi. Taxi from airport to Laureles is 70 mil.
I think it is now 65,000 COP. It is a fixed rate. The taxi drivers probably won't accept dollars.
MedellinGringo
04-29-18, 16:38
Sup y'all, arrived MDE today for first mongering trip. Of course my uber driver from airport was immediately talking up 'his girls' who wanted 350 k / HR.
.I have never had an Uber driver try and pimp me women. How did he peg you as a monger?
PolloNegro
04-29-18, 16:59
Sup y'all, arrived MDE today for first mongering trip. Of course my uber driver from airport was immediately talking up 'his girls' who wanted 350 k / HR.
Went to Loutron with 250 k + 100 USD (ye I screwed up not exchanging more). Bouncer said 290 k going rate which driver nominally agreed was fair price. Almost convinced me despite knowing full well that is an absurd price. But when mentioned cover I finally resolved to walk away.
The couple of seemingly solid photoprepagos for 150 k / each I had lined up flaked out (I started scouting too late I think).
Doing this solo with Google translator at my side, will approach tomorrow with better approach. Maybe check out tantra.Sorry to hear that. I have never had a problem out of any of the girls who I have numbers for, but I guess it appears there may be some big money spenders in Medellin right now or the girls don't want to travel to far away from Centro? I can tell you now that most of the girls who I have numbers for are located near Centro and never had a problem finding Hotel Botero. Once again I apologize, but I will be in Medellin really soon and I will touch basis with most of them and see what occurred, if they care to tell me.
On the other hand, all mongers be safe, sensible and use great judgment. Like Wolf once told me, the benefit of staying at a less than 5 star hotel is the girls are in walking distance, everything is very close to you and you can literally rent two rooms for a nice price, one to store your valuables in and the other to be your Boom Boom Room. PolloNegro is out!
I think I should have a bowl of popcorn for the rest of this thread.
I have never had an Uber driver try and pimp me women. How did he peg you as a monger?
MedellinGringo
04-29-18, 18:54
I think I should have a bowl of popcorn for the rest of this thread.Just curious how it went down.
Maybe the guy ordered an Uber to take him to Loutrons and the driver knew it was a casa and offeres him him an upgrade for the friendly price of 350 k.
65000 cop to airport is 23 bucks. I have a 22 dollar free ride from uber so I wanted to make sure I would use the whole thing. Otherwise I was going to save it for my next trip to Tijuana from the airport.
Mr Enternational
04-29-18, 20:53
65000 cop to airport is 23 bucks. I have a 22 dollar free ride from uber so I wanted to make sure I would use the whole thing. Otherwise I was going to save it for my next trip to Tijuana from the airport.It may only work in the USA.
Will be second time to Medellin. Is Mayorista worth a visit? Any advice for visiting there. Also what are some suggestions for strip clubs that are good value and in not so shady areas, prices, quality? Thanks.Is a great place to find semi pros, lots of diamonds in the rough, but you have to be able to speak Spanish and be very patient, its usually best after 10 pm Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays. It is my favorite place to go since the great majority of the girls are your everyday next door girl, is very inexpensive, you can rent a room at one of the hotels for under 40 k cop, bring all the girls you want and if you negotiate you can get the girls to stay with you for about 50 k cop x HR. Be a gentleman, treat the girls fairly and have fun.
Also what are some suggestions for strip clubs that are good value and in not so shady areas, prices, quality? Thanks.Sort of mutually exclusive.
You have expensive clubs in nicer areas and good value clubs in shady areas. But if you catch a cab there and back the area shouldn't bother you too much.
From high to low:
Bar La Isla.
Las Palmas Medellin.
Fase II.
Cra. 44 #30-27.
http://www.clubfasedos.com/
Luna Lunera.
Calle 33 63 b-215.
http://lunalunera.com.co/
Grill San Diego.
Calle 37 No. 45-15.
Barra Ejecutiva (Centro-shady area).
Calle 53 #48-20.
Conejitas (Centro).
CL. 53 #51-41.
Maracaibo (next door to Barra Ejectiva).
Calle 53 #49-30.
There are other ones but pretty small.
DorianGray2020
04-30-18, 02:29
Hey guys,
Going to be in Medellin for the first time next week. Got an apartment from Airbnb in Lleras Park. Can anyone suggest any casas / clubs / bars / restaurants that are close by?
The cops were very insulting. Because in Colombia, these barrio people get no respect and seem to have few rights.
Out of curiosity, were these ladies dark skinned? Wondering if it was more racial than anything else.
PolloNegro
04-30-18, 08:34
Here is the lesson I learned today, if I sent you the list of names, only use the names Dulce, Monica, and Tiffany. The other names are just an extreme Risk that I would not take. I try not to post any of my mishaps, especially if they relate to me slipping as a monger and letting my guard down. I take responsibility for that and hold myself accountable. I have been in so much trouble with social media before that I know the do's and the don't's of social media. So my first trip to Colombia, I had to create a new me, so I created a name that sounded extremely Latino as I am fluent in Spanish and was born in Puerto Rico. I heard stories about Medellin, long before I would take the leap of faith to travel to Colombia. So I was not completely green to the dangers associated with Medellin or anywhere else I may venture.
Long story short, is this, 12 of the girls from the list, messaged me on WhatsApp with a ridiculous amount of dinero for a 24 hour date. The extremely strange thing is this, everyone of them was asking the same amount and none of them had ever had a date with me? It was then that I realized these girls, prepago or not, work as a team. Girls who I had never met, was messaging me on WhatsApp asking for my alias name. That told me that the girl that I had arranged the date with for a said amount called her friends and told them what our said amount was and many of them decided that they would round it off and ask for more than a monthly salary for a day's work. The funny thing is this, I would have paid the original girl the said amount and a tip for the 24 hour date.
I have had to create a new name, and a new facebook account. I have had to tell my girlfriend to stay inside and not travel to Centro alone for fear of her safety. It is just a reality check, that no matter how much money you pay these girls, the people that they are working for and their greed will consume them and can harm you. Each of the girls that had dates with me, lost a hefty amount of pesos out of pure greed and impatience. When every girl you never met can quote you the same price for a 24 hour date, everyone that quotes you the same price is on the same team and has communicated well with one another. That's a bullet I dodge, some money I saved and a headache I do not have to endure. I hope their boss is reading this and realizing that he, she, or whoever the bosses are, lost an easy 8,000,000. 00 pesos for a 7 day run. From one customer, but they either saw a duck or dummy and sent out every pigeon they could find in hopes that I would bite, I didn't bite, I blocked every whatapp number I have from the prepagos and I will fully focus on my girlfriend and random chicks around Centro. Forum Members be careful, be aware, and pay attention, take this warning as a reason to be cautious. My greatest advice is this, Find'them, Fuck'them and Forget'them. Pollo Negro is out.
BlueChange
04-30-18, 09:19
Hey, I recall Loutron being the raining king of talent. Then a couple years back they moved. Then energy basically had the same line up. On par. My question is. Today currently how is Loutron? Am I really missing out that much by not going or is sticking with energy just as fine.
I just dislike how far and inconvenient it is to drive up to loutron. What's it like at the moment?
ColombiaLover
04-30-18, 13:48
Well, they are not bleached white. But I would not consider either of them to be dark-skinned at all. Darker than me, but that's not saying much from a gringo with German and Dutch ancestry.
Out of curiosity, were these ladies dark skinned? Wondering if it was more racial than anything else.
I am a little surprised nothing has been mentioned on this board concerning the mounting tension / violence that is growing between gangs themselves and with police in the western sector of Medellin. (San Javier) I have very little info to offer, but I do know some of my amigas in Robledo are getting stressed out concerning this.
Does anyone here have any info on the subject??? I will be arriving in 2 weeks for an extended stay in Laureles. I see in this report that something has gone down in UNICENTRO (very near where I will be); so things may be spilling over into other sectors of Medellin.
https://thebogotapost.com/2018/04/28/city-on-clampdown-whos-behind-the-increased-violence-in-medellin/
AngleSlam41
04-30-18, 17:53
Here is the lesson I learned today, if I sent you the list of names, only use the names Dulce, Monica, and Tiffany. The other names are just an extreme Risk that I would not take. I try not to post any of my mishaps, especially if they relate to me slipping as a monger and letting my guard down. I take responsibility for that and hold myself accountable. I have been in so much trouble with social media before that I know the do's and the don't's of social media. So my first trip to Colombia, I had to create a new me, so I created a name that sounded extremely Latino as I am fluent in Spanish and was born in Puerto Rico. I heard stories about Medellin, long before I would take the leap of faith to travel to Colombia. So I was not completely green to the dangers associated with Medellin or anywhere else I may venture.
Long story short, is this, 12 of the girls from the list, messaged me on WhatsApp with a ridiculous amount of dinero for a 24 hour date. The extremely strange thing is this, everyone of them was asking the same amount and none of them had ever had a date with me? It was then that I realized these girls, prepago or not, work as a team. Girls who I had never met, was messaging me on WhatsApp asking for my alias name. That told me that the girl that I had arranged the date with for a said amount called her friends and told them what our said amount was and many of them decided that they would round it off and ask for more than a monthly salary for a day's work. The funny thing is this, I would have paid the original girl the said amount and a tip for the 24 hour date..Thanks for heads up man, I will follow suit with those high yield protective measures.
Here is the lesson I learned today, if I sent you the list of names, only use the names Dulce, Monica, and Tiffany. The other names are just an extreme Risk that I would not take. I try not to post any of my mishaps, especially if they relate to me slipping as a monger and letting my guard down. I take responsibility for that and hold myself accountable. I have been in so much trouble with social media before that I know the do's and the don't's of social media. So my first trip to Colombia, I had to create a new me, so I created a name that sounded extremely Latino as I am fluent in Spanish and was born in Puerto Rico. I heard stories about Medellin, long before I would take the leap of faith to travel to Colombia. So I was not completely green to the dangers associated with Medellin or anywhere else I may venture.
Long story short, is this, 12 of the girls from the list, messaged me on WhatsApp with a ridiculous amount of dinero for a 24 hour date. The extremely strange thing is this, everyone of them was asking the same amount and none of them had ever had a date with me? It was then that I realized these girls, prepago or not, work as a team..Lesson learned don't get involved with others Chicas!
ColombiaLover
04-30-18, 21:11
I have a very close amiga who lives there. Recently we were talking, because she wants me to meet her dad and sisters. But she told me that she had not invited me to her house in San Javier because it is dangerous for me. That is true of many barrios, but this is the first time she has said this to me. I will talk to her and see if I can get a little more information about what is going on and if she feels that her barrio is less safe now than, say, 6 months ago.
I am a little surprised nothing has been mentioned on this board concerning the mounting tension / violence that is growing between gangs themselves and with police in the western sector of Medellin. (San Javier) I have very little info to offer, but I do know some of my amigas in Robledo are getting stressed out concerning this.
Does anyone here have any info on the subject??? I will be arriving in 2 weeks for an extended stay in Laureles. I see in this report that something has gone down in UNICENTRO (very near where I will be); so things may be spilling over into other sectors of Medellin.
https://thebogotapost.com/2018/04/28/city-on-clampdown-whos-behind-the-increased-violence-in-medellin/
If you google comuna 13 and select news there is plenty of info, including some in english. It is a reaction to the recent arrest of some prominent gang leaders. A public bus was burned last week.
I am a little surprised nothing has been mentioned on this board concerning the mounting tension / violence that is growing between gangs themselves and with police in the western sector of Medellin. (San Javier) I have very little info to offer, but I do know some of my amigas in Robledo are getting stressed out concerning this.
Does anyone here have any info on the subject??? I will be arriving in 2 weeks for an extended stay in Laureles. I see in this report that something has gone down in UNICENTRO (very near where I will be); so things may be spilling over into other sectors of Medellin.
https://thebogotapost.com/2018/04/28/city-on-clampdown-whos-behind-the-increased-violence-in-medellin/I'd say just stay out of that neighborhood and you should be fine, it's a few kilometers west of Laurales anyway, and it will be gang on gang violence, not gang on tourists. They try to stay away from killing tourists because it really brings down the heat, the cops will actually try and solve the case. (although I was pleasantly surprised last week when the MED police actually found and arrested the guy who murdered my Conejitas sweetie last Sept).
Over all average wise you are safer as a US tourist in Colombia then you are while in the US.
US overall homicide rate is 4.8 per 100,000, the Colombian rate 26.5 per 100,000 for Colombians.
US tourist rate over 5 years in Colombia was 19 killed in 5 years per State Dept figures with around 400,000 visitors a year.
Gives a rate of around point 95 per 100,000.
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/while-abroad/death-abroad1/death-statistics.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Colombia#Visitors.
Hey, I recall Loutron being the raining king of talent. Then a couple years back they moved. Then energy basically had the same line up. On par. My question is. Today currently how is Loutron? Am I really missing out that much by not going or is sticking with energy just as fine.
I just dislike how far and inconvenient it is to drive up to loutron. What's it like at the moment?Well I haven't been to Loutron but at twice as expensive I doubt the girls are twice as hot as Energy.
I'd say just stay out of that neighborhood and you should be fine, it's a few kilometers west of Laurales anyway, and it will be gang on gang violence, not gang on tourists. They try to stay away from killing tourists because it really brings down the heat, the cops will actually try and solve the case. (although I was pleasantly surprised last week when the MED police actually found and arrested the guy who murdered my Conejitas sweetie last Sept).
Over all average wise you are safer as a US tourist in Colombia then you are while in the US.
US overall homicide rate is 4.8 per 100,000, the Colombian rate 26.5 per 100,000 for Colombians.
US tourist rate over 5 years in Colombia was 19 killed in 5 years per State Dept figures with around 400,000 visitors a year.
Gives a rate of around point 95 per 100,000.
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/while-abroad/death-abroad1/death-statistics.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Colombia#Visitors.A US tourist probably spends two weeks in Colombia and 50 weeks in USA, adjusted for that the murder rate will change to a more accurate number, approx. 24.
The story mentions an incident in La Candelaria. That is a little close to our stomping grounds. The normal rules apply, we have to avoid isolated locations because there is safety in numbers.
I've learned this is a good practice in other urban areas too. Back in the mid 90's when Los Angeles gang activity bled over to the west side I was minding my own business walking to meet friends at a sushi bar off Main Street in Venice. Without thinking I glanced at a couple of guys hanging on a side street corner smoking a blunt. One of them yelled at me "what's up homeboy, what's up! I waved and kept moving because I was running late. They started walking toward me and yelling "who are you with fool? They peeled off when what I thought was a random car flashed a spotlight on us. When I told my friends what happened they told me not to cut down side streets at night south of the Santa Monica border in Venice at night. They explained there was more gang activity lately and it wasn't safe. It's a mistake I wouldn't have normally made but I was in a hurry to not be late so I parked off the beaten path and took a shortcut. I hope I learn from my mistakes.
I'd say just stay out of that neighborhood and you should be fine, it's a few kilometers west of Laurales anyway, and it will be gang on gang violence, not gang on tourists. They try to stay away from killing tourists because it really brings down the heat, the cops will actually try and solve the case. (although I was pleasantly surprised last week when the MED police actually found and arrested the guy who murdered my Conejitas sweetie last Sept).
Over all average wise you are safer as a US tourist in Colombia then you are while in the US.
US overall homicide rate is 4.8 per 100,000, the Colombian rate 26.5 per 100,000 for Colombians.
I just came back from a short stop over in Colombia recently. I read a ton of advice from this form and decided to plan my trip on the information. I got to the city at night and took a cab alone (I think it was $40? You can split a cab ($10-$15?) with people or take a bus (a few bucks?) and it's way cheaper. I booked a hotel called Botero ($25). The hotel was not usable for sleeping (smelled of smoke, no blanket, pillows were bad. I wasn't there to sleep anyway. I went out to the park and scouted but only saw trans girls or possible trans girls. I found Maracaibo and decided to take that club for a spin because it is mentioned a lot here. I got introduced to the owner and asked where the bank was. I got lost and came back and the owner actually took me there himself. A girl sat down next to me and she looked okay and asked me if I wanted to buy her a drink. I bought her a drink and tried to see if she was going to be good in bed. I asked if she did BBBJ and she said yes and she would do anything I asked for I think $25 worth of pesos (I think it was 75 k pesos). I said yes and went to the back with her. She asked for the money up front and asked for me to buy her another drink. I forgot the rules that everyone tells you on this form and gave the money up front (my mistake) and bought her the 2nd drink. She sniffed some coke and got naked. Her breasts went all the way to the ground and she was chubby. She went from a 7 (I'the pay for this) to a 3 (would pass her up at a club if she threw herself at me). She then tried to put a condom on me. I told her she either gave me a BBBJ or my money back. She then threatened to call the cops. I threatened to tell the owner. She gave me 20 k pesos back and I was pissed. I told the owner and the owner went back there and spoke with her for a long long time then came to me and gave me 15 k back. I couldn't believe the quality of the girls and the service was this bad in Colombia. From what I read in the forums this place was a paradise.
I went back to my hotel and told the person at the counter what happened. I asked him where his favorite place was and he pointed me across the street. He told me to go with a particular girl. The girl working the cash register was freaking hot as hell. She was a solid 10. It turns out she only worked the cash register and was clocking out too. I guess she was used to pull in the guys? I saw the other girls and they were 4's at best but I was desperate so I took the girl that the counter guy suggested. She was good in bed but didn't look that great. I gave her a 10 k tip and asked the counter guy what the normal tip was and he said 50 k, so I went back in and gave her another 40 k.
The next day I left that hotel and went to another one about a 10 minute cab ride away. It was $30 a night I think and it was fantastic. One of the best bed and breakfast places I had been to. I thought about just staying in the hotel but I remember everyone talked about a 2nd club here in the forms. New Life I think. So I went there in the morning and OMG it was everything I thought Colombia would be. The girls did a line up for me and about half of them were 10's. My jaw freaking dropped. I took a Russian girl to the back and the sex was not super passionate but still pretty good. Covered blowjob and sex. I popped quickly and gave the establishment 50 k pesos and tipped her 20 k pesos and she was really happy with 20 k pesos. I think the other guy who told me 50 k pesos was crazy. I managed to go two more times before my flight. On my 2nd time, I asked if the girls do BBBJ. The manager said he could bring in the girls and they could tell me. I picked another 10 out of the line up and asked her with my translator (I don't speak Spanish). She told me she would do BBBJ for 50 k pesos and BBFS for another 50 k pesos. I did the math real quick and was blown away. Around 50 bucks for BBFS with a freaking 10? I said yes and got a half hearted blowjob and not very passionate sex but from a 10 so I was fine with that. The third time they only had three girls but they were all 10's so I took them all (sorry to the guy who came in right after me, I think he had to wait). The sex again wasn't very passionate but good enough for me.
If I had to do it all over again, I would have done more research and got a better hotel at the start and explored more than two clubs. I also would have figured out the correct tip to pay as well as what the prices should be. I was flying blind with the prices and may have caused a temporary uptick in prices for the rest of you guys. Sorry guys, but yeah Colombia has my vote of approval.
Gertsch700
05-01-18, 08:41
1st monger trip completed, learnt a lot but now want to start planning a 2nd trip for late 2018 early 2019, I am currently learning Spanish and committed to it.
Colombia, DR or Brazil?
1st monger trip completed, learnt a lot but now want to start planning a 2nd trip for late 2018 early 2019, I am currently learning Spanish and committed to it.
Colombia, DR or Brazil?If you are now learning Spanish why would you consider Brazil as that is not a Spanish speaking country?
That time of year myself I would choose the DR as the beaches are great there compared to Colombia in most areas.
For mongering only than I would choose Colombia.
......Colombia, DR or Brazil?No brainer. Brazil, hottest women, best service.
I just came back from a short stop over in Colombia recently. I read a ton of advice from this form and decided to plan my trip on the information. I got to the city at night and took a cab alone (I think it was $40? You can split a cab ($10-$15?) with people or take a bus (a few bucks?) and it's way cheaper. I booked a hotel called Botero ($25). The hotel was not usable for sleeping (smelled of smoke, no blanket, pillows were bad. I wasn't there to sleep anyway. I went out to the park and scouted but only saw trans girls or possible trans girls. I found Maracaibo and decided to take that club for a spin because it is mentioned a lot here. I got introduced to the owner and asked where the bank was. I got lost and came back and the owner actually took me there himself. A girl sat down next to me and she looked okay and asked me if I wanted to buy her a drink. I bought her a drink and tried to see if she was going to be good in bed. I asked if she did BBBJ and she said yes and she would do anything I asked for I think $25 worth of pesos (I think it was 75 k pesos). I said yes and went to the back with her. She asked for the money up front and asked for me to buy her another drink. I forgot the rules that everyone tells you on this form and gave the money up front (my mistake) and bought her the 2nd drink. She sniffed some coke and got naked. Her breasts went all the way to the ground and she was chubby. She went from a 7 (I'the pay for this) to a 3 (would pass her up at a club if she threw herself at me). She then tried to put a condom on me. I told her she either gave me a BBBJ or my money back. She then threatened to call the cops. I threatened to tell the owner. She gave me 20 k pesos back and I was pissed. I told the owner and the owner went back there and spoke with her for a long long time then came to me and gave me 15 k back. I couldn't believe the quality of the girls and the service was this bad in Colombia. From what I read in the forums this place was a paradise...Your to be commended for writing such a candid and straightforward report of your experiences in Medellin. It's a breath of fresh air compared to many of the reports. Hopefully with more research and an extensive reading of this board you will be better prepared for your next adventure here.
Gertsch700
05-01-18, 20:03
If you are now learning Spanish why would you consider Brazil as that is not a Spanish speaking country?
That time of year myself I would choose the DR as the beaches are great there compared to Colombia in most areas.
For mongering only than I would choose Colombia.I asked myself the same question! But Rio was originally my 1st trip but went to Sosua instead. Now that I have 1 trip under my belt I have learnt a lot and can venture somewhere that maybe isn't suited for 1st timers??
If you are now learning Spanish why would you consider Brazil as that is not a Spanish speaking country?
That time of year myself I would choose the DR as the beaches are great there compared to Colombia in most areas.
For mongering only than I would choose Colombia.Why worry too much about learning Spanish at all. I have been many places. As long as I have Google translate and moola, I am good. Its always been fascinating to me communicating with people who speak another language. It may get awkward sometimes, even funny at times, but we always find a way.
I booked a hotel called Botero ($25). The hotel was not usable for sleeping (smelled of smoke, no blanket, pillows were bad. I wasn't there to sleep anyway. I went out to the park and scouted but only saw trans girls or possible trans girls. I found Maracaibo and decided to take that club for a spin because it is mentioned a lot here. I got introduced to the owner and asked where the bank was. I got lost and came back and the owner actually took me there himself. A girl sat down next to me and she looked okay and asked me if I wanted to buy her a drink. I bought her a drink and tried to see if she was going to be good in bed. I asked if she did BBBJ and she said yes and she would do anything I asked for I think $25 worth of pesos (I think it was 75 k pesos). I said yes and went to the back with her. She asked for the money up front and asked for me to buy her another drink. I forgot the rules that everyone tells you on this form and gave the money up front (my mistake) and bought her the 2nd drink. She sniffed some coke and got naked. Her breasts went all the way to the ground and she was chubby. She went from a 7 (I'the pay for this) to a 3 (would pass her up at a club if she threw herself at me). She then tried to put a condom on me. I told her she either gave me a BBBJ or my money back.Oh let's see. 1st I have stayed 4 times at the Botero for almost a month total, they don't allow smoking in the rooms, if you got a room that smelled like smoke you just should have asked for another room, and you should have asked for a blanket if you wanted one. I get them about 1/2 the time with out asking but it's not really cold enough to need one. The pillows have always seemed fine to me, but everybody's different.
If you went to "the park", I assume you meant Parque Bolivar, yes they are TV's there, you should have gone behind Iglesia Vera Cruz or over to the Raudal block. Actually with no Spanish and 1st time there you should have avoided the street scene altogether. Or gone with some one who knew what's what.
You have to pay up front with the strip clubs, no way around that. But you should have waited and watched the girls on stage and picked one out after you saw her naked. Or checked her out at the table little closer, 7 to a 3? LOL.
And Maracaibo is a distant 3rd place for number of cuties, you should have gone down 2 doors to Barra Ejective or down to Conejitas (or caught a taxi to Fase II more likely).
The place across the street was Yakusa, a low end Casa mostly useful due to how late they stay open, and the girls there are 45 k per 1/2 HR so a 50 k tip would be way too much. Plus you can take them across the street to your hotel which is nice, they do get the occasional cutie.
(You can see a blanket and 4 pillows in this pic of mine at the Botero).
I just came back from a short stop over in Colombia recently. I read a ton of advice from this form and decided to plan my trip on the information. I got to the city at night and took a cab alone (I think it was $40? You can split a cab ($10-$15?) with people or take a bus (a few bucks?) and it's way cheaper. I booked a hotel called Botero ($25). The hotel was not usable for sleeping (smelled of smoke, no blanket, pillows were bad. I wasn't there to sleep anyway. I went out to the park and scouted but only saw trans girls or possible trans girls. I found Maracaibo and decided to take that club for a spin because it is mentioned a lot here. I got introduced to the owner and asked where the bank was. I got lost and came back and the owner actually took me there himself. A girl sat down next to me and she looked okay and asked me if I wanted to buy her a drink. I bought her a drink and tried to see if she was going to be good in bed. I asked if she did BBBJ and she said yes and she would do anything I asked for I think $25 worth of pesos (I think it was 75 k pesos). I said yes and went to the back with her. She asked for the money up front and asked for me to buy her another drink. I forgot the rules that everyone tells you on this form and gave the money up front (my mistake) and bought her the 2nd drink. She sniffed some coke and got naked. Her breasts went all the way to the ground and she was chubby. She went from a 7 (I'the pay for this) to a 3 (would pass her up at a club if she threw herself at me). She then tried to put a condom on me. I told her she either gave me a BBBJ or my money back. She then threatened to call the cops. I threatened to tell the owner. She gave me 20 k pesos back and I was pissed. I told the owner and the owner went back there and spoke with her for a long long time then came to me and gave me 15 k back. I couldn't believe the quality of the girls and the service was this bad in Colombia. From what I read in the forums this place was a paradise..Damn! Everyone saw you coming. I'm surprised someone didn't ask for one of your kidneys. The taxi from the airport is 65,000 pesos, just under $23. The bus from the airport, which stops just around the corner from Hotel Botero, is 9,500 pesos, about $3.
Asking a Colombian what a normal tip is is like asking a plumber for advice on open heart surgery. It's not something they have any idea about.
At the strip clubs you have to pay in advance. At some of the casas you also pay in advance. You pay after any time you bring a girl to your room.
DorianGray2020
05-02-18, 00:11
The next day I left that hotel and went to another one about a 10 minute cab ride away. It was $30 a night I think and it was fantastic. One of the best bed and breakfast places I had been to. I thought about just staying in the hotel but I remember everyone talked about a 2nd club here in the forms. New Life I think. So I went there in the morning and OMG it was everything I thought Colombia would be. The girls did a line up for me and about half of them were 10's. My jaw freaking dropped. I took a Russian girl to the back and the sex was not super passionate but still pretty good. Covered blowjob and sex. I popped quickly and gave the establishment 50 k pesos and tipped her 20 k pesos and she was really happy with 20 k pesos. I think the other guy who told me 50 k pesos was crazy. I managed to go two more times before my flight. On my 2nd time, I asked if the girls do BBBJ. The manager said he could bring in the girls and they could tell me. I picked another 10 out of the line up and asked her with my translator (I don't speak Spanish). She told me she would do BBBJ for 50 k pesos and BBFS for another 50 k pesos. I did the math real quick and was blown away. Around 50 bucks for BBFS with a freaking 10? I said yes and got a half hearted blowjob and not very passionate sex but from a 10 so I was fine with that. The third time they only had three girls but they were all 10's so I took them all (sorry to the guy who came in right after me, I think he had to wait). The sex again wasn't very passionate but good enough for me.Do you remember the name of the girl from New Life? Or what she looked like?
Damn! Everyone saw you coming. I'm surprised someone didn't ask for one of your kidneys. The taxi from the airport is 65,000 pesos, just under $23. The bus from the airport, which stops just around the corner from Hotel Botero, is 9,500 pesos, about $3.
Asking a Colombian what a normal tip is is like asking a plumber for advice on open heart surgery. It's not something they have any idea about.
At the strip clubs you have to pay in advance. At some of the casas you also pay in advance. You pay after any time you bring a girl to your room.I wouldn't be to rough on this guy being the total rookie he is. He had a good time and his report should be of some value to newbies coming to Medellin.
Thanks for the report. I recommend you re-read the forums.
I just came back from a short stop over in Colombia recently. I read a ton of advice from this form and decided to plan my trip on the information. I got to the city at night and took a cab alone (I think it was $40? You can split a cab ($10-$15?) with people or take a bus (a few bucks?) and it's way cheaper. I booked a hotel called Botero ($25). The hotel was not usable for sleeping (smelled of smoke, no blanket, pillows were bad. I wasn't there to sleep anyway. I went out to the park and scouted but only saw trans girls or possible trans girls. I found Maracaibo and decided to take that club for a spin because it is mentioned a lot here. I got introduced to the owner and asked where the bank was. I got lost and came back and the owner actually took me there himself. A girl sat down next to me and she looked okay and asked me if I wanted to buy her a drink. I bought her a drink and tried to see if she was going to be good in bed. I asked if she did BBBJ and she said yes and she would do anything I asked for I think $25 worth of pesos (I think it was 75 k pesos). I said yes and went to the back with her. She asked for the money up front and asked for me to buy her another drink. I forgot the rules that everyone tells you on this form and gave the money up front (my mistake) and bought her the 2nd drink. She sniffed some coke and got naked. Her breasts went all the way to the ground and she was chubby. She went from a 7 (I'the pay for this) to a 3 (would pass her up at a club if she threw herself at me). She then tried to put a condom on me. I told her she either gave me a BBBJ or my money back. She then threatened to call the cops. I threatened to tell the owner. She gave me 20 k pesos back and I was pissed. I told the owner and the owner went back there and spoke with her for a long long time then came to me and gave me 15 k back. I couldn't believe the quality of the girls and the service was this bad in Colombia.
Why worry too much about learning Spanish at all. I have been many places. As long as I have Google translate and moola, I am good. Its always been fascinating to me communicating with people who speak another language. It may get awkward sometimes, even funny at times, but we always find a way.I sort of agree. FWIW I speak Spanish and it has enriched my experience in Colombia, DR, Cuba, etc. However, I don't speak Portuguese and I've had the time of my life in 18-20 trips to Brasil.
I'd try all three places. Look at weather charts if that's important to you because each locale has definite good and bad times for weather.
Also, if you're going to Brasil, it's a long flight, so give yourself at least a week.
Mr Enternational
05-02-18, 03:42
If I had to do it all over again, I would have done more research and got a better hotel at the start and explored more than two clubs. I also would have figured out the correct tip to pay as well as what the prices should be. I was flying blind with the prices and may have caused a temporary uptick in prices for the rest of you guys. Sorry guys, but yeah Colombia has my vote of approval.LOL. Great report man. You can do all the research in the world, but until you are at ground zero and everything is in your face it still may not all come together for you. That is why for my first time I waited to go with a buddy that knew the ropes so I wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel. All I had to do was follow his lead.
DorianGray2020
05-02-18, 05:58
Can anyone suggest any casas that are safe to go to at night, that are close to or within El Poblado?
I just came back from a short stop over in Colombia recently. I read a ton of advice from this form and decided to plan my trip on the information. I got to the city at night and took a cab alone (I think it was $40? You can split a cab ($10-$15?) with people or take a bus (a few bucks?) and it's way cheaper. I booked a hotel called Botero ($25). The hotel was not usable for sleeping (smelled of smoke, no blanket, pillows were bad. I wasn't there to sleep anyway. I went out to the park and scouted but only saw trans girls or possible trans girls. From what I read in the forums this place was a paradise.
I went back to my hotel and told the person at the counter what happened. I asked him where his favorite place was and he pointed me across the street. He told me to go with a particular girl. The girl working the cash register was freaking hot as hell. She was a solid 10. It turns out she only worked the cash register and was clocking out too. I guess she was used to pull in the guys? I saw the other girls and they were 4's at best but I was desperate so I took the girl that the counter guy suggested. She was good in bed but didn't look that great. I gave her a 10 k tip and asked the counter guy what the normal tip was and he said 50 k, so I went back in and gave her another 40 k.
The next day I left that hotel and went to another one about a 10 minute cab ride away. It was $30 a night I think and it was fantastic. One of the best bed and breakfast places I had been to. I thought about just staying in the hotel but I remember everyone talked about a 2nd club here in the forms. New Life I think. So I went there in the morning and OMG it was everything I thought Colombia would be. The girls did a line up for me and about half of them were 10's. My jaw freaking dropped. I took a Russian girl to the back and the sex was not super passionate but still pretty good. Covered blowjob and sex. I popped quickly and gave the establishment 50 k pesos and tipped her 20 k pesos and she was really happy with 20 k pesos. I think the other guy who told me 50 k pesos was crazy. I managed to go two more times before my flight. On my 2nd time, I asked if the girls do BBBJ. The manager said he could bring in the girls and they could tell me. I picked another 10 out of the line up and asked her with my translator (I don't speak Spanish). She told me she would do BBBJ for 50 k pesos and BBFS for another 50 k pesos. I did the math real quick and was blown away. Around 50 bucks for BBFS with a freaking 10? I said yes and got a half hearted blowjob and not very passionate sex but from a 10 so I was fine with that. The third time they only had three girls but they were all 10's so I took them all (sorry to the guy who came in right after me, I think he had to wait). The sex again wasn't very passionate but good enough for me.
If I had to do it all over again, I would have done more research and got a better hotel at the start and explored more than two clubs. I also would have figured out the correct tip to pay as well as what the prices should be. I was flying blind with the prices and may have caused a temporary uptick in prices for the rest of you guys. Sorry guys, but yeah Colombia has my vote of approval.Enjoyed your report!
I can relate. There is plenty of accurate information in between the irrelevant chit chat in this thread.
Some is intentional misleading for some odd reason, or subject to interpretation.
In addition, talking to mongers in the casas can reveal some clueless individuals operating on pure hearsay.
You eventually found out for yourself.
Obviously, everyone rolls differently. I am thankful to the many who helped me to break my cherry trip, but knew going in that Medellin is not a perfect city.
Why worry too much about learning Spanish at all. I have been many places. As long as I have Google translate and moola, I am good. Its always been fascinating to me communicating with people who speak another language. It may get awkward sometimes, even funny at times, but we always find a way.Don't see anyone worrying, is just common sense that the ability to communicate is a huge advantage. And there are many situations where passing your phone back and forth isn't practical. Like when talking to a taxi driver, a vendor or waiter with other customers waiting, or a chica during the act, etc.
That's not to say that a doofus that can only say "hola" can't have a "great time." They can. Take a no puss getting fucker from the US and get him laid every day by a chick and that's a "great time." Can't fall out of bed when you're already sleeping on the floor.
BlueChange
05-02-18, 08:56
I made the mistake of landing during another one of those unknown holidays in Colombia where everyone takes off and you never heard of it. What the fuck is work day?
Anyway.
Been eyeing Fernanda's perfect tits for a while. I set up an appoint with her at 7:30. BUT I was super fiening for some action. ALL the casa's were closed because of the holidays so it was slim pickings.
I kept trying every ad but no one was even responding. FINALLY I go one.
This chick.
Belen or Suzi or whatever her name is.
https://www.photoprepagos.com/soy-belen-la-autentica-muñequita-de-porcelana-llamame-ID-qgpm3.
Her place was close near the museum easy to get to. Its an apartment that runs a couple rooms. I wait about 5 minutes and in walks in this DOG face girl. She had acne and a giant tat on her belly. She does not go to the gym and is loose in the tummy area. I tell her, "hey you aren't the ones from the photo" but what I should have said was "hey I can't deal with your face" Anyway little head didn't lisen and off we went. She had roastbeef labia {so not into that} and everything was a robot and I wasn't really feeling it. I rushed to quatro and nutted quick. I spent the next 10 min laying down and she checked her phone to post more ads. Totally wack and blah.
Ok so I figure, I got Fernanda in the back pocket and she is confirmed.
https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/fernanda-modelo-acompanante-de-alto-nivel/7839011/
Ok I know she is a bit older like 27. She shows up. The face isn't all that but I can deal with it. I see the body and BAM those TITIES ARE EXACLTY LIKE THE PHOTO! Fucking perfect. They even had some give to them even thought they were fake.
So I get her a drink she is sort of wanting to go the bed. I try and kiss but its not happening. She is super like by the book. She wouldn't even take a tip for orale naturale. She gets on top and does a terrible fake orgasm. She keeps jerking me, I tell her to stop for a min. I want to cum on her tits and she is like "para propina' so I'm down. She starts to do it but its like the rhtyym and everything and I'm thinking too much. So I get her to stop. I explain that I felt like as soon as she shows up she wanted to leave. She said no, and then we talked. A bit more conneciton but she wants to get back to it after she finishes her beer. I nut disapointingly on her perfect tits. She cleans up and leaves.
Well you can't win them all. Lesson learned, on a holiday EVERYONE takes off!
Happy trails.
I made the mistake of landing during another one of those unknown holidays in Colombia where everyone takes off and you never heard of it. What the fuck is work day?
Anyway.
Been eyeing Fernanda's perfect tits for a while. I set up an appoint with her at 7:30. BUT I was super fiening for some action. ALL the casa's were closed because of the holidays so it was slim pickings.
I kept trying every ad but no one was even responding. FINALLY I go one.
This chick.
Belen or Suzi or whatever her name is..May 1 in Colombia called work day is the same as Labor Day in the US. Sounds like you should kicked the first Chica to the curb. Anyways your correct that on most holidays lots of places will be closed and it will be slim pickings.
TransitionAlye
05-02-18, 17:37
Next week I will be in el Poblado at Lleras park. Any veterans want to meet up to show the ropes?
TransitionAlye
05-02-18, 17:49
Day 3-Sunday.
Woke up with a bad headache. May be drinks and lack of sleep and side effect of blue pill all combined. I had set up a date with Has leal friend of Valentina Zapata. Again she was recommended by fellow here on board. I had to reschedule her to evening due to headache. Was kind a better in evening but I was drained. Has leal came on time. She has yummy figure. Around 24 years old. Bolted ones looked nice. Wet sloppy BBBJ and multiple positions. Went for 2 rounds. Second CIM. Felt good and totally drained by end of date. Rating 8/10.
To be continued.
Day 3 Evening continued.
So after having Has Leal on day 3 evening. I decided to take it easy. I was staying at M2 for one night as they didn't had any availability in mansion. In the night around 11 pm decided to go to Cave at mansion and check out the scene. There were 5-6 chicks but one caught my eye. She was Ana amazing dancer. I asked her and she agreed for 150 k. Took her to M2. Had a sweet session with her. Sorry forgot her name and she said no pics. Good kissing and and she did work hard on the junior. Rating 8. 5/10. Damage 150 k + 20 k tip for taxi as it was already late. No rush and that's one thing I like about mansion girls. More GFE types.
Day 4-Monday..Do you know where the mansion is? Glad you had a great time, will be there soon.
Oh let's see. 1st I have stayed 4 times at the Botero for almost a month total, they don't allow smoking in the rooms, if you got a room that smelled like smoke you just should have asked for another room, and you should have asked for a blanket if you wanted one. I get them about 1/2 the time with out asking but it's not really cold enough to need one. The pillows have always seemed fine to me, but everybody's different.
If you went to "the park", I assume you meant Parque Bolivar, yes they are TV's there, you should have gone behind Iglesia Vera Cruz or over to the Raudal block. Actually with no Spanish and 1st time there you should have avoided the street scene altogether. Or gone with some one who knew what's what.
You have to pay up front with the strip clubs, no way around that. But you should have waited and watched the girls on stage and picked one out after you saw her naked..How much do I tip the 45 k girls?
Damn! Everyone saw you coming. I'm surprised someone didn't ask for one of your kidneys. The taxi from the airport is 65,000 pesos, just under $23. The bus from the airport, which stops just around the corner from Hotel Botero, is 9,500 pesos, about $3.
Asking a Colombian what a normal tip is is like asking a plumber for advice on open heart surgery. It's not something they have any idea about.
At the strip clubs you have to pay in advance. At some of the casas you also pay in advance. You pay after any time you bring a girl to your room.Oh yeah, I forgot to include in my story that I usually use Uber.
Uber is illegal there and the internet at the airport had very little range and was very slow. It was difficult to find a spot to call an uber and some taxi driver saw me with my phone out and said he would take me to the city for the same price as the uber as long as I canceled my uber.
I didn't want to get cell service for the couple days I was there so I just went to a bunch of restaurants and got WiFi and called uber from those places. I think uber might actually be more expensive but you don't get taxi drivers that spend the first 10 minutes of the ride trying to figure out where you want to go when you are showing them google maps on your phone. I think the taxi drivers do this to rack up the meter because they turn on the meter before talking to you.
I also had a taxi driver take me a 20 minute detour on a 15 minute ride.
1st taxi from the airport was great. Drove fast and directly to my hotel. The 2nd taxi driver couldn't read the google map. The third took me on the detour. After that I used uber exclusively.
Do you remember the name of the girl from New Life? Or what she looked like?So the New Life girls all say their name during the line up / walk through. I would write down their names and then ask for the girls I thought were awesome. I would always get their names wrong or mispronounce them and would have to describe the girls to the guy in charge.
The first girl had an aggressive hour glass figure and was average height. Probably DDs at least and slightly smaller hips. Her waist was pretty tiny. I think her name was Natashi or something Russian but I didn't talk to her much.
The second girl had very perky B cups and was maybe 2-3 inches taller than normal. I would describe her looks as like a run way model but bigger tits and hips. She was blonde and had a super cute face.
The last three girls had bodies like the first girl (one of them was the first girl). All of their bodies were 10's. The faces however were 9 8 and 7 I think. The 7 face girl moved around more and licked me more than the other two. All three girls were amazed when I got all three of them and when I tipped them all 20 k a piece. I also had to pop quickly and run to get some food, shower and then to the airport. They all asked me how long I was staying as if to figure out when to be at the club. It was my first foursome but it wasn't like a porn. The girls were not super into each other sexually and the sex wasn't super energetic. Also they changed out condoms when I switched girls.
I think if one of the girls spoke really good English and controlled the other girls or I brought photos of positions to try, I think sex would have been a lot more fun.
Mr Enternational
05-02-18, 20:28
How much do I tip the 45 k girls?0, zero, zilch, nada. Why do you feel the need to give the girls more money after you have already paid them for their service? Is there any time when after service a chick will give you a rebate? I know I said you would have to pay $40 for this pussy but you were such a good customer; just give me $30 and call it even.
How much do I tip the 45 k girls?Bad service, none, OK service maybe 10 k, stellar service I'd give them 20 k. But that's just me and I like the girls to be extra happy to see me again.
Do you know where the mansion is? Glad you had a great time, will be there soon.He said he was staying there in the post, 1st at M2 which is the secondary Mansion building and then at the main Mansion.
TransitionAlye
05-02-18, 22:09
I have heard one person recommended New Life and one Energy.
Can anyone recommend there top 5 casas?
Can anyone suggest any casas that are safe to go to at night, that are close to or within El Poblado?I don't think there are any in Poblado and most of them elsewhere close by 7 to 8 ish. At night you will be looking at strip clubs, although the closest one to Poblado is the most expensive one, "Bar La Isla-The Girls" on Las Palmas above Poblado. I'd cab to Fase II, Cra. 44 #30-27, it's just a little bit further. http://www.clubfasedos.com/.
Based on the increased traffic of mongers coming to Medellin now there should be a dedicated thread for newbies coming here. It could be like frequently asked questions such as how to get from the airport to town, etc. How does it work in a casa? So many of the reports these days seem to revolve around he "basics".
Based on the increased traffic of mongers coming to Medellin now there should be a dedicated thread for newbies coming here. It could be like frequently asked questions such as how to get from the airport to town, etc. How does it work in a casa? So many of the reports these days seem to revolve around he "basics".Totally agree, I tried to start one in the blog section but am unable. If someones starts on I will contribute.
JerkMcGerk
05-03-18, 03:02
Based on the increased traffic of mongers coming to Medellin now there should be a dedicated thread for newbies coming here. It could be like frequently asked questions such as how to get from the airport to town, etc. How does it work in a casa? So many of the reports these days seem to revolve around he "basics".Seems like a good idea. There are so many pages here, its hard to really sort through things at this point.
As best I can remember, it's always been that way. I recognize it's more noticeable and more tedious over time as we all gain experience. The basic questions seem, well, more basic. A newbie thread is a good idea because the remaining thread will be cleaner.
Based on the increased traffic of mongers coming to Medellin now there should be a dedicated thread for newbies coming here. It could be like frequently asked questions such as how to get from the airport to town, etc. How does it work in a casa? So many of the reports these days seem to revolve around he "basics".
DorianGray2020
05-03-18, 04:15
I don't think there are any in Poblado and most of them elsewhere close by 7 to 8 ish. At night you will be looking at strip clubs, although the closest one to Poblado is the most expensive one, "Bar La Isla-The Girls" on Las Palmas above Poblado. I'd cab to Fase II, Cra. 44 #30-27, it's just a little bit further. http://www.clubfasedos.com/.Someone on here said with Fase II, between all the drinks, cover, paying the girl, you shouldn't expect to pay less than 300 k, which sounds like a lot compared to just going to a casa.
So the New Life girls all say their name during the line up / walk through. I would write down their names and then ask for the girls I thought were awesome. I would always get their names wrong or mispronounce them and would have to describe the girls to the guy in charge.
The first girl had an aggressive hour glass figure and was average height. Probably DDs at least and slightly smaller hips. Her waist was pretty tiny. I think her name was Natashi or something Russian but I didn't talk to her much.
The second girl had very perky B cups and was maybe 2-3 inches taller than normal. I would describe her looks as like a run way model but bigger tits and hips. She was blonde and had a super cute face.
The last three girls had bodies like the first girl (one of them was the first girl). All of their bodies were 10's. The faces however were 9 8 and 7 I think..Your like a kid in a candy store taking four girls to the room and based on the tips you gave these Chicas and what the casa pays them they were making double time pay so of course they want to know when you'll be back. Sounds like your having fun and that's what counts.
How much do I tip the 45 k girls?Bad service: she owes me money. Normal service: she has already been paid for that. Spectacular service: >20 K.
Black Page
05-03-18, 15:05
0, zero, zilch, nada. Why do you feel the need to give the girls more money after you have already paid them for their service? Is there any time when after service a chick will give you a rebate? I know I said you would have to pay $40 for this pussy but you were such a good customer; just give me $30 and call it even.If you come originally from USA (I am not sure actually), then I would argue that you come from a country where, whatever food you eat, whatever kind of service you are given, in any restaurant you are subject to the 18+% gratuity extortion, which at the end of the month gives waiters a tax-exempt significant additional income. Unbelievable and unacceptable for people living in most other countries. I feel angry every time I eat there.
Black Page
05-03-18, 15:15
I just came back from a short stop over in Colombia recently. This report should go to the RoD.
I couldn't believe the quality of the girls and the service was this bad in Colombia. From what I read in the forums this place was a paradise.Probably also the people you met thought something like "I could not believe there could be tourists like this one coming here!" ROFL
Thanks God nothing bad happened to you, in spite of your efforts to test the system. Thank you for reporting! Fresh air in this forum, as someone commented.
Mr Enternational
05-03-18, 15:34
0, zero, zilch, nada. Why do you feel the need to give the girls more money after you have already paid them for their service? Is there any time when after service a chick will give you a rebate? I know I said you would have to pay $40 for this pussy but you were such a good customer; just give me $30 and call it even.Guess I spoke too soon on the rebate thing. Back in December I met a chick at a hooker pick-up bar in Manila. She came and stayed the night with me. I have seen her a couple more times since. Each time I have given her the equivalent of $38. She just wrote to me and said she has a good job now. I said well that is too bad since I won't get to see you again. She said why not. I said because I met you as a prostitute so you were with me for money. She said when she met me that night it ended up being a nice friendship and not just for money. She said we can still see each other when she is off on the weekends, but there is no need for me to give her money anymore. And all this without ever giving her any tips!
Mr Enternational
05-03-18, 15:40
IF you come originally from USA (I am not sure actually), then I would argue that you come from a country where, whatever food you eat, whatever kind of service you are given, in any restaurant you are subject to the 18+% gratuity extortion,I do. And that is why when I go to a country where tipping is not the norm, I take full advantage of it! I always do what the locals do. Like when eating the free breakfast at a hotel. Do I see the local people leave a tip on the table when they get up and walk out? No. Then I don't leave one either.
El Mechanico
05-03-18, 16:12
a ridiculous amount of dinero for a 24 hour date = 8,000,000. 00 pesos for a 7 day run. I don't about anyone else on here, but to me 1,420,000+ COP ($400+USD)/ day is "a ridiculous amount of dinero for a 24 hour date".
El Mechanico.
PolloNegro
05-03-18, 17:42
I don't about anyone else on here, but to me 1,420,000+ COP ($400+USD)/ day is "a ridiculous amount of dinero for a 24 hour date".
El Mechanico.I may want to take my time and bang her brains out. Take pics, take flicks, different things with one chic and allow her to earn a good wage. You run through 30 women in Medellin in one week, you'll be tired, exhausted, items missing from your room. Couple chics stealing a few pesos. I found that it was easier to pay a little more to better looking chics and take your time & Bang their brains out. Better women, less problems, same penis. Easy as that! LOL, Pollonegro is out!
PolloNegro
05-03-18, 17:53
Just wondering, am I the only monger who likes proof to life and would like to know who's a good service provider even at a higher rate? I just like knowing who does what, Some days I want a 3 hole provider, some days I want a milk eater, some days I want a vaginal acrobatic. Most of all I want proof that a provider does what she says she will do.
I personally try everything in the book to get visuals of every girl that I have a date with, I want to provide fellow mongers with the best proof that girls that I recommend can actually provide them with the services that they wish. I feel as if there is nothing worst than calling a girl over or picking out a girl that is a dud and you actually paid her for being a dud?
I have been collecting names, numbers, positions, services, rating each girl based on her performance, looks, attitude, and overall ability to be with on an appointment. Mongers come to Medellin to relax and to lay back, not to have a headache due to girls being slick and not providing what they say they would provide.
So far I have about 6 really good girls that I can recommend. Girls that I have dated personally and know what they will and won't do. I believe if you're paying for a service, you should get it. That's just my spill about the girls of Medellin, I will be in Medellin every week of may starting next Monday. If you need a translator or a recommendation of a girl, hit my PM. I mainly pic up girls from Centro and the Prepagos that have been recommended to me by other girls and other trust mongers. PolloNegro is out, BTW I have some new footage from my last trip to Medellin 3 weeks ago, Hit my PM for those videos if you would like to see them!
PolloNegro
05-03-18, 18:38
I had to learn not to entertain the one's who knew all and showed nothing. Its OK to tell us how cheap you can be and how the newbies are ruining Medellin. What that tells me it this, you're on a fixed income and some of us came to the table with a boatload of chips, we came to gamble not penny pinch. I am on this forum for a few things and those things are to help mongers find girls and to find me a few girls that I would like to bang and have on stand by.
If they never offer any assistance, then don't entertain them, don't go into the forest and feed the bears then complain when one bites you on the ass. That is exactly what occurs here in the forum from time to time. If you're making anywhere between $2-$300/ HR, who gives a rats ass if you blow $3-$400/ day on a dime piece in Medellin.
I recently asked a girl in Medellin, would you rather bang 6 guys for $1.200,000.00 pesos or one for $1,000,000.00 for a 24 hour date? You better damn well know she thought banging the one guy was better than banging 6. Now here's the reverse question, from a guys standpoint, would you rather have one Likeable call girl in your room for 24 hours or 6 untrustworthy call girls in and out of your room for 24 hours?
All of my life I have only had one penis, meaning, I can only bang one chic at a given time, although a 3 some is great, the fact is, I can only penetrate one chic at a time. My first trip to Medellin, I saw so many chics and banged so many chics that when I did return home, I couldn't remember how good was the sex. I either drunk too much or banged too many. The lesson I did learn was this, the girls I could remember, I most definitely wanted to see them again, and I also wanted forum members to see them as well. Sharing is caring so they say.
If you're in Medellin on a budget, say that, if you're not into photos and videos and 3 some, say that, but don't ridicule the guys who may have to or can pay for what they want, if a $120 mil pesos is your high end game, own it, claim it, Run around Vera cruz and Radule area and you will still find some nice chicks, but if you want the Beyonce looking, J-Lo looking, incredible big booty white Latin chic, she will cost you just a little more and if you can afford to make her take her mind off of everything else but you, she will make you $1,000,000. 00 pesos to the table everyday, for a 24 hour date which is only about $300 US. Nevermind me, I'm just the guy who banged 5 chics at one time in Medellin and got them all on film licking and kissing each other for over 4 hours.
Many trolls will call you a troll and cocky and conceited because they are working on fixed incomes. As men and adults lets agree to disagree, everyone's budget isn't the same, and everyone isn't broke because they talk about money. I would rather have one reliable chic I can bang all day and not have to go out to look for girls, with me having a girl in Medellin. Oh and thanks to the troll or Mole or whatever you call them that shows the girls this site, the minute 12-20 women all call me on Whatsapp asking for a million pesos for a date, it clearly shows that Medellin has a tight underground network of working these girls and not only do the girls want this million pesos, the people they work for want the million pesos as well. Since I have a girlfriend in Medellin and it was a miracle that so many Prepagos knew the fake name I created for Medellin, I decided to cancel all of my dates and spend the extra money on my girlfriend and her family. BTW if any of you newbies want some girls and recommendations, PM and I can give you the 6 that I have that I know will treat you well. PolloNegro is out.
El Mechanico
05-03-18, 19:09
What the fuck is work day?
It might be their version of Labor Day. Same thing happened Tuesday 5/1 in Roatan, Honduras. Almost eveything was closed down.
El Mechanico.
Someone on here said with Fase II, between all the drinks, cover, paying the girl, you shouldn't expect to pay less than 300 k, which sounds like a lot compared to just going to a casa.However, some of these chicks in Fase II (and La Isla) are stunning. For me, it makes perfect sense to pay more for these chicks, as I am a sucker for eye candy.
Someone on here said with Fase II, between all the drinks, cover, paying the girl, you shouldn't expect to pay less than 300 k, which sounds like a lot compared to just going to a casa.Yeah that was me, and I said that's what it would cost to have a table on the floor, you can get out the door for less if you sit at the bar and have a beer, 10 k cover+190 k girl + beer. The downtown strip clubs are much cheaper. 80 k girl + 10 k beer.
You asked for Casa's at night, the only 2 I know of open late are Linda Chicas which is expensive and seems to be a pain to deal with sometimes and Yakusa which is cheap. Both are downtown. Yakusa only has a few girls on at a time though and it is hit or miss if they have any cute ones on and their rooms suck. I always take the girls across the street to my hotel for the same 45 k though.
Some of the Yakusa girls I have been with:
It is the International Day of Labor, celebrated in dozens of western countries. Think of it as the holiday version of the metric system of measurement, well known everyone except Americans.
It might be their version of Labor Day. Same thing happened Tuesday 5/1 in Roatan, Honduras. Almost eveything was closed down.
El Mechanico.
It doesn't bother me. I think guys should spend as much as they want. I know many do and it's made no difference to me.
I don't about anyone else on here, but to me 1,420,000+ COP ($400+USD)/ day is "a ridiculous amount of dinero for a 24 hour date".
El Mechanico.
IF you come originally from USA (I am not sure actually), then I would argue that you come from a country where, whatever food you eat, whatever kind of service you are given, in any restaurant you are subject to the 18+% gratuity extortion, which at the end of the month gives waiters a tax-exempt significant additional income. Unbelievable and unacceptable for people living in most other countries. I feel angry every time I eat there.The US minimum wage for servers is $2.13 per hour for anyone who makes $30 or more in tips per month. It's not extortion. You don't have to pay it.
It's not tax free. All tips which are charged to a credit card are reported as income. While at least some of the income isn't being taxed, it shouldn't matter to you. You don't live there.
In most other countries servers are paid a reasonable wage that is sufficient to support a family. The US hasn't figured out the advantages of that yet.
Just wondering, am I the only monger who likes proof to life and would like to know who's a good service provider even at a higher rate? I just like knowing who does what, Some days I want a 3 hole provider, some days I want a milk eater, some days I want a vaginal acrobatic. Most of all I want proof that a provider does what she says she will do.
I personally try everything in the book to get visuals of every girl that I have a date with, I want to provide fellow mongers with the best proof that girls that I recommend can actually provide them with the services that they wish. I feel as if there is nothing worst than calling a girl over or picking out a girl that is a dud and you actually paid her for being a dud?
I have been collecting names, numbers, positions, services, rating each girl based on her performance, looks, attitude, and overall ability to be with on an appointment. Mongers come to Medellin to relax and to lay back, not to have a headache due to girls being slick and not providing what they say they would provide.And in the end, most of that is completely worthless.
I know girls who were incredible in bed. Even with repeat visits, still awesome. Recommend them to a few friends, same glowing reports. Recommend them to someone else and they're a dead fish. Or call them back for another visit and this time she's not into it.
YMMV.
You get a good performance for any number of reasons. Maybe she likes you. Maybe she heard you pay really well. Maybe she's in a good mood. Maybe she's just horny. Even the most professional providers have an occasional off day. For every girl you think is great there's someone who thinks she's terrible.
Ever been married or in a long, long-term relationship? Ever have your woman get pissed off at you because she dreamed you did something wrong? The best you can do is find the girls you like and hope you catch them on a good day.
DorianGray2020
05-04-18, 05:09
For someone who is in Medellin for the first time and who doesn't speak Spanish, what are some safe areas to go to at night? I know El Poblado is safe and I know to avoid centro. Any other areas that are safe for night time mongering?
Black Page
05-04-18, 13:12
It is the International Day of Labor, celebrated in dozens of western countries. Think of it as the holiday version of the metric system of measurement, well known everyone except Americans.Jajaja We would not check this thread every day if it wasn't for replies like this.
I made the mistake of landing during another one of those unknown holidays in Colombia where everyone takes off and you never heard of it. What the fuck is work day?Based on the map posted on Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Day
you must live in Greenland, or Sudan, or Saudi Arabia, or Oman, or very few other countries. I can only imagine the difficulties you may have to access ISG from there.
It is known EVEN in the USA, although on a different date (not surprisingly, as for using ounces for steaks instead of grams).
PolloNegro
05-04-18, 13:46
And in the end, most of that is completely worthless.
I know girls who were incredible in bed. Even with repeat visits, still awesome. Recommend them to a few friends, same glowing reports. Recommend them to someone else and they're a dead fish. Or call them back for another visit and this time she's not into it.
YMMV.
You get a good performance for any number of reasons. Maybe she likes you. Maybe she heard you pay really well. Maybe she's in a good mood. Maybe she's just horny. Even the most professional providers have an occasional off day. For every girl you think is great there's someone who thinks she's terrible.
Ever been married or in a long, long-term relationship? Ever have your woman get pissed off at you because she dreamed you did something wrong? The best you can do is find the girls you like and hope you catch them on a good day.Yes was married, 20 yrs, 6 kids, wife had sex 7 times a day. She became jealous at my financial success and chose to divorce me, her choice, her move. I'm back on my feet. She was much older not me. Notice I said, married for 20 yrs, I'm not the kind of guy to stay unhappily married, the ex wife had fantastic wonderful delicious sex, enough for me to give her 6 babies. Good sex isn't luck or some timing, she either performs or she doesn't. Strippers are employed at strip clubs because of hit or miss performances. Truth is, many on the board talk that talk & can't walk that Walk. All we, me and other members ask for, is pics, numbers, validity. It would seem like we were asking for your passport. Here's a better statement, I wouldn't date a girl or offer a girl a 24 hour date unless I knew she could go 5-7 ones in that 24 hours, I've had one girl go 4 times in a 6 hour span, that's what prompted me to ask for a 24 hour date. We appreciate your responses, yet and still we prefer, pics, chics, and flicks, LOL, Pollonegro is out!
And in the end, most of that is completely worthless.
I know girls who were incredible in bed. Even with repeat visits, still awesome. Recommend them to a few friends, same glowing reports. Recommend them to someone else and they're a dead fish. Or call them back for another visit and this time she's not into it.
YMMV.
You get a good performance for any number of reasons. Maybe she likes you. Maybe she heard you pay really well. Maybe she's in a good mood. Maybe she's just horny. Even the most professional providers have an occasional off day. For every girl you think is great there's someone who thinks she's terrible.
Ever been married or in a long, long-term relationship? Ever have your woman get pissed off at you because she dreamed you did something wrong? The best you can do is find the girls you like and hope you catch them on a good day.
Yes was married, 20 yrs, 6 kids, wife had sex 7 times a day. She became jealous at my financial success and chose to divorce me, her choice, her move. I'm back on my feet. She was much older not me. Notice I said, married for 20 yrs, I'm not the kind of guy to stay unhappily married, the ex wife had fantastic wonderful delicious sex, enough for me to give her 6 babies. Good sex isn't luck or some timing, she either performs or she doesn't. Strippers are employed at strip clubs because of hit or miss performances. Truth is, many on the board talk that talk & can't walk that Walk. All we, me and other members ask for, is pics, numbers, validity. It would seem like we were asking for your passport. Here's a better statement, I wouldn't date a girl or offer a girl a 24 hour date unless I knew she could go 5-7 ones in that 24 hours, I've had one girl go 4 times in a 6 hour span, that's what prompted me to ask for a 24 hour date. We appreciate your responses, yet and still we prefer, pics, chics, and flicks, LOL, Pollonegro is out!Actually JjB is right on the money again in his post.
Maybe you should cut the babble and listen.
Balboa is out!
Guess I spoke too soon on the rebate thing. Back in December I met a chick at a hooker pick-up bar in Manila. She came and stayed the night with me. I have seen her a couple more times since. Each time I have given her the equivalent of $38. She just wrote to me and said she has a good job now. I said well that is too bad since I won't get to see you again. She said why not. I said because I met you as a prostitute so you were with me for money. She said when she met me that night it ended up being a nice friendship and not just for money. She said we can still see each other when she is off on the weekends, but there is no need for me to give her money anymore. And all this without ever giving her any tips!Wow!
That's incredible! LOL.
Actually JjB is right on the money again in his post.
Maybe you should cut the babble and listen.
Balboa is out!Pollo Negro is out, Balboa is out, so what does "out"mean?
It is the International Day of Labor, celebrated in dozens of western countries. Think of it as the holiday version of the metric system of measurement, well known everyone except Americans.It's also known as a red / communist day.
For someone who is in Medellin for the first time and who doesn't speak Spanish, what are some safe areas to go to at night? I know El Poblado is safe and I know to avoid centro. Any other areas that are safe for night time mongering?Besides strip clubs? 'Cause strip clubs.
PolloNegro
05-04-18, 22:04
At least 3 times and can't provide you with a pic, a reliable phone number, or a way to contact the girl. Truth is that member is pulling your leg. These guys are famous for lip service and not providing proof. I'm a newbie, there's no way I just picked up and acquired all these numbers, photos, & footage. If they are seasoned members & can't provide you with a contact, its because they don't want you to have a contact. Thank the monger gods for members like wolf!
Pollonegro is out!
Speaking only for myself, I have nothing to prove.
At least 3 times and can't provide you with a pic, a reliable phone number, or a way to contact the girl. Truth is that member is pulling your leg. These guys are famous for lip service and not providing proof. I'm a newbie, there's no way I just picked up and acquired all these numbers, photos, & footage. If they are seasoned members & can't provide you with a contact, its because they don't want you to have a contact. Thank the monger gods for members like wolf!
Pollonegro is out!
That is one point of view.
It's also known as a red / communist day.
PolloNegro
05-05-18, 01:55
Pollo Negro is out, Balboa is out, so what does "out"mean?A way of me saying that I am done with my spill and I'm leaving the forum for now, I'm out of here, LOL, Pollonegro is out!
Pollo Negro is out, Balboa is out, so what does "out"mean?I believe it is like "Over & Out" which is old radio lingo.
World Travel 69
05-05-18, 02:40
Please guys keep this thread for Reporting about Medellin Chicas, prices, locations mainly.
Put the Chit Chat in the Chit Chat thread.
You make it hard for me to keep up the Map and List, when I have to read through all the non-chica Shit.
Mr Enternational
05-05-18, 03:57
Pollo Negro is out, Balboa is out, so what does "out"mean?LOL. Have you ever talked on a CB radio? Over and out means that I have finished what I had to say and I am leaving/hanging up/getting off the air now.
LOL. Have you ever talked on a CB radio? Over and out means that I have finished what I had to say and I am leaving/hanging up/getting off the air now.Roger that and over and out!
PolloNegro
05-05-18, 04:52
LOL. Have you ever talked on a CB radio? Over and out means that I have finished what I had to say and I am leaving/hanging up/getting off the air now.That's exactly what I'm saying when the Pollonegro is out! LOL.
That's exactly what I'm saying when the Pollonegro is out! LOL.Well this clarifies things now for the record. So I guess you may have started a trend so we can now kind of be like truck drivers when communicating on this thread.
SoberHans69
05-05-18, 19:57
First of all thanks to everyone who has posted in this thread. Really enjoyed reading all the information.
Been to Thailand over ten times, Cambodia, Netherlands and Germany mongering but want to try Colombia.
I don't care too much about culture tbh, I plan on renting an apartment, cooking my own food (I have food allergies) going to casa's during the day and chilling out in room at night, possibly getting an escort to visit or going to a strip club by taxi door to door.
Do you lot think I would be ok staying in El Centro or should I stay in El Poblado and have to travel everywhere?
I am currently learning basic Spanish but don't want to commit until after my first visit if I want to keep visiting.
Sorry for the long post, appreciate any help, I'll definitely post a report when I'm back.
Well this clarifies things now for the record. So I guess you may have started a trend so we can now kind of be like truck drivers when communicating on this thread.Haha, made me chuckle 🤣
Balboa out ... 😎
Do you lot think I would be ok staying in El Centro or should I stay in El Poblado and have to travel everywhere?.Depends on your level of comfort in more dangerous large Latin cities. I stayed in Centro my 1st trip (and the 3 trips after) but I lived in Latin America for 5 years and a part of Wash DC that is scarier then Centro and I speak fluent Spanish. If you stayed in a OK part of centro and cabbed at night you would be OK I think but opinions differ.
Well this clarifies things now for the record. So I guess you may have started a trend so we can now kind of be like truck drivers when communicating on this thread.So, what's the low down on the el centro lot lizards these days?
First of all thanks to everyone who has posted in this thread. Really enjoyed reading all the information.
Been to Thailand over ten times, Cambodia, Netherlands and Germany mongering but want to try Colombia.
I don't care too much about culture tbh, I plan on renting an apartment, cooking my own food (I have food allergies) going to casa's during the day and chilling out in room at night, possibly getting an escort to visit or going to a strip club by taxi door to door.
Do you lot think I would be ok staying in El Centro or should I stay in El Poblado and have to travel everywhere?
I am currently learning basic Spanish but don't want to commit until after my first visit if I want to keep visiting.
Sorry for the long post, appreciate any help, I'll definitely post a report when I'm back.I applaud you for your exploratory spirit, but IMHO el centro is not a good idea for an absolute newbie traveling alone with no Spanish skill. Even a Poblado or Laureles apartment would be a challenge, but at least probably safe. I would strongly recommend booking at the mansion and hooking up with some more experienced Medellin mongers to get a sense of the lay of the land for your first trip. Food allergies- yeah I can understand why you would want to prepare you own food, but I still say the Mansion is the perfect place for any newbie to get a feel for how things work. Just hook up with some guys there and get your ass out of the mansion to explore.
If you are hell bent on getting an apartment I would suggest getting your first apartment in Poblado or Laureles (area of la setenta). Good luck.
P.S. Looking at your handle-- if you are a friend of Bill I know Bill has many english speaking friends who meet regularly; a great group of guys who can maybe help you on our first visit.
First of all thanks to everyone who has posted in this thread. Really enjoyed reading all the information.
Been to Thailand over ten times, Cambodia, Netherlands and Germany mongering but want to try Colombia.
I don't care too much about culture tbh, I plan on renting an apartment, cooking my own food (I have food allergies) going to casa's during the day and chilling out in room at night, possibly getting an escort to visit or going to a strip club by taxi door to door.
Do you lot think I would be ok staying in El Centro or should I stay in El Poblado and have to travel everywhere?
I am currently learning basic Spanish but don't want to commit until after my first visit if I want to keep visiting.
Sorry for the long post, appreciate any help, I'll definitely post a report when I'm back.I applaud you for your exploratory spirit, but IMHO el centro is not a good idea for an absolute newbie traveling alone with no Spanish skill. Even a Poblado or Laureles apartment would be a challenge, but at least probably safe. I would strongly recommend booking at the mansion and hooking up with some more experienced Medellin mongers to get a sense of the lay of the land for your first trip. Food allergies- yeah I can understand why you would want to prepare you own food, but I still say the Mansion is the perfect place for any newbie to get a feel for how things work. Just hook up with some guys there and get your ass out of the mansion to explore.
If you are hell bent on getting an apartment I would suggest getting your first apartment in Poblado or Laureles (area of la setenta). Good luck.
P.S. Looking at your handle-- if you are a friend of Billl I know Bill has many english speaking friends who meet regularly; a great group of guys who can maybe help you on our first visit.
Eszpresszo
05-06-18, 06:13
I applaud you for your exploratory spirit, but IMHO el centro is not a good idea for an absolute newbie traveling alone with no Spanish skill. Even a Poblado or Laureles apartment would be a challenge, but at least probably safe. LOL. Many people who have posted on this thread, and probably countless others who haven't, have done just that without any problem (myself included). If you consider that a challenge, I doubt you were even in Medellin.
PolloNegro
05-06-18, 15:56
I will touch on this once and once only. Many of the members of this forum will give you their experience from their ethnicity view point. Thats just the hard down facts. When I became a member of this forum, after reading a few posts, I was cautious as a little old lady walking home from the store in a rough neighborhood. Then I stopped and I thought about it, I've been to Beliz, nicaragua, Honduras, Salvador, Guatamala, Costa Rica, Panama, Mexico, London, France, Italy, Sierrea Leone West Africa, Brazil, Jamaica, DR, Brussels, Belgium, Germany,. I had not been to Colombia.
I had my reasons, I did not want the hassle of returning to America and being searched for drugs, didn't want to be kidnapped, didn't want a finger cut off, I had heard too much BS and had watched too much television. Reports and rumors had me thinking every kid in Colombia had a AK-47 and megatons of Blow and were ready to kill Americans. My fears were absolutely wrong. Then everyday facts began to kick in.
I am a dark skinned latino, I can pass for African American everyday of the week. I am 5'10, I weigh about 280 lbs. I look like I can handle myself well in a brawl. I was raised in some very hard neighborhood and harsh conditions. So surviving is what I know how to do. Here's the hard down facts, like it or not. No one is running around trying to rob a black man who looks like he can fight. Thats just the hard down truthful facts. I wasnt robbed in any of the countries that I mentioned above and once again, since traveling to Colombia, I have not been robbed. I walk around Centro at 1 am, 2 am, 3 am, 4 am, I have yet to be robbed or even approached to be asked for money to be robbed, I just have not. No one wants to rob anyone who they think will kill them, they just do not want to take that chance. I am not telling you to not be cautious, I am telling you if you are on the darker skinned side and grew up in a rough environment and look like you can handle yourself, the chances of you having robbery problems in Colombia are slim to none. Those are just the Hard down facts that I have observed on my visits to Medellin. Medellíand Colombia is safe as far as I can see. Pollonegro is out!!
When doing casas and spas runs, do I bring my own condoms? I prefer my own condoms for size and good feel. My experience with foreign condoms is.
That they aren't that good for me. I prefer Magnums.
PolloNegro
05-06-18, 17:07
So, what's the low down on the el centro lot lizards these days?Feline and behind, very reasonable I must add, especially near Vera cruz! Pollonegro is out!
YippieKayay
05-06-18, 18:35
When doing casas and spas runs, do I bring my own condoms? I prefer my own condoms for size and good feel. My experience with foreign condoms is.
That they aren't that good for me. I prefer Magnums.Yes you can bring your own. The casa condoms are cheap and small usually in my experience.
Do you lot think I would be ok staying in El Centro or should I stay in El Poblado and have to travel everywhere?Personally I won't stay anywhere else in Medellin, I love the vibrant busy culture of El Centro, aka La Candelaria in the daytime. At night it gets a little scarier but I either don't go more then 2 blocks to a strip club or I take a cab.
See for yourself, here's a video I took of downtown El Centro street scenes I took in 2017 if you want to look how scary it seems:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTNhn6sFT8E&feature=youtu.be
LOL. Many people who have posted on this thread, and probably countless others who haven't, have done just that without any problem (myself included). If you consider that a challenge, I doubt you were even in Medellin.If your implying that El Centro is safe for a first time non Spanish speaking gringo to hang out in, that in my opinion is bad advice. El Centro is dangerous even for Colombians and much more so for an obvious foreigner.
El Mechanico
05-06-18, 22:15
Thats just the hard down facts.
Here's the hard down facts, hard down truthful facts. Those are just the Hard down facts So what you are saying is these are the Hard down facts!
PolloNegro
05-07-18, 00:00
So what you are saying is these are the Hard down facts!Medellin is no more dangerous than the streets of Miami, Atlanta, or New York, many of the cautious posts make you think that the Colombian are savage people ready to pounce on you at any given chance. That's just not true. Pollonegro is out!
HappyButLookin
05-07-18, 00:31
If your implying that El Centro is safe for a first time non Spanish speaking gringo to hang out in, that in my opinion is bad advice. El Centro is dangerous even for Colombians and much more so for an obvious foreigner.I frequent El Centro, mainly for the strip clubs but generally walk through the streetwalker area and occasionally catch one there too. My Spanish is crap. If like me, you are good in and are used to cities, it's really no big deal. I've spent a lot of time in developing countries and have mongered around the world. I don't see much risk at all in the daytime for the clued in and very little at night. If I leave a strip club before the train stops, I walk to St Antonio and jump on the Metro. Later than that, I call an Uber. Been doing this for 5 months and the only issue I ever had was that 3 hookers tried, unsuccessfully, to pick my pockets. In fact is was the first place I got laid on New Years when I arrived because that day there were no better choices and I had a goal.
Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've been doing this for 20 years, much of the time in places where it's not legal. I don't see what the big deal is if you do research and know how not look like a victim or a tourist.
Thanks to Wolf 662 for the great video of Centro. I must say I was scared to death watching it. By all means don't go near Centro, and even worse stay away from Mayorista.
Poblado is the place to be at at all times. Be happy in the park there as you pay thru the nose for the wonderful, and loving girls who work that area. If you can't find to you liking there then hit social media for some fun that way.
Make sure also that on social media you always pay what they ask for, and give plenty of taxi money also. Then of course a big tip to the hard working girl as the measly 200 K to 300 K is not nearly enough.
Spanish speaking or not, there is more danger for newbies than there is for more experienced visitors. No one is completely safe, but there is a big difference between a daytime tour of Botero Plaza and the museum and late night crawling along the Raudal / Veracruz / Maracaibo circuit. I suppose the point is an infrequent visitor may not appreciate the difference. Maybe I'm abundantly cautious but I don't feel any safer because I can fully understand someone asking for my phone and wallet in Spanish.
My advice to all is stay alert and avoid isolated areas. I qualify the warnings in the interest of encouraging guys to visit and see for themselves. I think the language barrier is more of a factor with independent workers and the street scene than in casas and strip clubs. There are a few potentially undesirable situations you could find harder to avoid with limited Spanish (E. G. Gender identity and age discrimination).
If your implying that El Centro is safe for a first time non Spanish speaking gringo to hang out in, that in my opinion is bad advice. El Centro is dangerous even for Colombians and much more so for an obvious foreigner.
Cool video, guys should take note of how people are dressed. Try to pattern the stuff you wear to not stand out too glaringly. Super bright colors, short pants, and tank tops on middle aged guys are some examples you will not see very often on the street. And, yes, most everyone is speaking Spanish.
Personally I won't stay anywhere else in Medellin, I love the vibrant busy culture of El Centro, aka La Candelaria in the daytime. At night it gets a little scarier but I either don't go more then 2 blocks to a strip club or I take a cab.
See for yourself, here's a video I took of downtown El Centro street scenes I took in 2017 if you want to look how scary it seems:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTNhn6sFT8E&feature=youtu.be
DickSaylor
05-07-18, 03:33
Medellin is no more dangerous than the streets of Miami, Atlanta, or New York, many of the cautious posts make you think that the Colombian are savage people ready to pounce on you at any given chance. That's just not true. Pollonegro is out!I have boots on the ground right now, and let me tell you this guy has on rose colored glasses. I have had 3 extortion attempts on me in one week. For example, there will be an agreed upon price, and when they go to leave- the attitude changes fast and they demand more money. If you don't pay up, they'll threaten to call the police or their "boss". This town has dramatically changed in ten years. These girls are almost as dangerous as American women and their "me too" movement. Proceed with caution and stay at a place like the mansion or hit up a massage parlor or strip club, at least this way these hoes can't extort you since the price is pre-set and there are rules. All this not considering the insane police presence, harassing everyone, militarized outfits. I'm sure some of these old cats living in dream land will go crazy with me ruining their dream, but it is only fair to post the truth. This is from a vet, with an endless supply of resources. These people are savages and thieves, and if you give them any more credit than this you will be taken advantage of. Don't believe me, go out there and see what happens.
DickSaylor
05-07-18, 03:38
If your implying that El Centro is safe for a first time non Spanish speaking gringo to hang out in, that in my opinion is bad advice. El Centro is dangerous even for Colombians and much more so for an obvious foreigner.So true. I went down there with an English dude that was former SAS and me former MMA competitor also with weapons training, both in shape and not the first targets you'd pick if you were a bad guy. We were there at 3 pm in the afternoon, and I'll tell you it was sketchy AF. Can't imagine what it would be. (this coming from two guys that were in war zones).
Now let me also tell you there are fake cops down there that shake down gringos walking out of Zandalay and other massage casas. I can't imagine being a retiree down here. You have no defense.
Also these cops and people have an anti-Donald trump / USA lean now and they are just looking for a reason to steal from you or police the reason to mess with you! Guys going to centro are literally risking their lives for some fanny. I know the cheap charlies on a pension will freak out about this, but it is true. Go down there and see for yourself. Anyone who says it is safe has on rose colored glasses and is what we call "a future victim".
DickSaylor
05-07-18, 03:40
I will touch on this once and once only. Many of the members of this forum will give you their experience from their ethnicity view point. Thats just the hard down facts. When I became a member of this forum, after reading a few posts, I was cautious as a little old lady walking home from the store in a rough neighborhood. Then I stopped and I thought about it, I've been to Beliz, nicaragua, Honduras, Salvador, Guatamala, Costa Rica, Panama, Mexico, London, France, Italy, Sierrea Leone West Africa, Brazil, Jamaica, DR, Brussels, Belgium, Germany,. I had not been to Colombia.
I had my reasons, I did not want the hassle of returning to America and being searched for drugs, didn't want to be kidnapped, didn't want a finger cut off, I had heard too much BS and had watched too much television. Reports and rumors had me thinking every kid in Colombia had a AK-47 and megatons of Blow and were ready to kill Americans. My fears were absolutely wrong. Then everyday facts began to kick in.
I am a dark skinned latino, I can pass for African American everyday of the week. I am 5'10, I weigh about 280 lbs. I look like I can handle myself well in a brawl. I was raised in some very hard neighborhood and harsh conditions. So surviving is what I know how to do. Here's the hard down facts, like it or not. No one is running around trying to rob a black man who looks like he can fight.5'10 280? Nukka, you the Afro dusty Rhodes up in here. Drop some elbows, put on some polka dot tights and I'll take you out dancing.
SoberHans69
05-07-18, 08:43
Personally I won't stay anywhere else in Medellin, I love the vibrant busy culture of El Centro, aka La Candelaria in the daytime. At night it gets a little scarier but I either don't go more then 2 blocks to a strip club or I take a cab.
See for yourself, here's a video I took of downtown El Centro street scenes I took in 2017 if you want to look how scary it seems:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTNhn6sFT8E&feature=youtu.beThanks for the link.
I'm not planning on going out much at night and if I do it will be Uber to strip club then straight back, I'll have to think about it carefully.
If I do stay in El Poblado how long will it take to travel to El Centro everyday and how long will it take each way?
Thanks again for anyone who had replied.
If your implying that El Centro is safe for a first time non Spanish speaking gringo to hang out in, that in my opinion is bad advice. El Centro is dangerous even for Colombians and much more so for an obvious foreigner.El Centro is dangerous for the typical gringo. That's because the typical gringo is oblivious to their surroundings. They believe there's a magic gringo shield that will keep all trouble away from them. They would be equally at risk anywhere in the world, except they seldom walk around anywhere else.
Follow some basic rules and El Centro becomes a lot less dangerous.
1. Leave your jewelry at home. That includes your $300 sunglasses and iPhone X.
2. Colombians are friendly, but they aren't your friends. Almost anyone showing more than casual courtesy sees you as a source of profit. "No, gracias", while you continue walking will get you away from most.
3. Nothing on your phone is that important. If you have to use it, step into a store, or find a couple of police officers to stand near.
4. There's nothing in El Centro you need 3 million pesos for, so don't carry a huge roll of bills. Definitely don't pull it all out for a small purchase.
5. Walk with direction and purpose. Gawking at everything with your mouth open tells everyone you're an easy target. Know where you're going. Be aware of the people around you. If you're paying attention you'll spot most potential problems well before you get to them.
Blue Touch
05-07-18, 15:03
The problem is that the area does not appear to be dangerous in daytime to those who do not pay attention to details.
If your implying that El Centro is safe for a first time non Spanish speaking gringo to hang out in, that in my opinion is bad advice. El Centro is dangerous even for Colombians and much more so for an obvious foreigner.
HansLee3509
05-07-18, 15:57
Hi guys,
Love the forum, thanks for everyone who contributes concrete information and earnest opinions.
A quick question, what is the situation like on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday for.
- the Mansion.
- Casas.
Please?
I heard about it's quite slow and dry on these days everywhere?
Thanks a lot!
Cool video, guys should take note of how people are dressed. Try to pattern the stuff you wear to not stand out too glaringly. Super bright colors, short pants, and tank tops on middle aged guys are some examples you will not see very often on the street. And, yes, most everyone is speaking Spanish.Additionally it should be noted that if your walking around El Centro with a plastic bottle of water and to a lesser degree wearing sunglasses this is dead giveaway that you are a foreigner. The locals will not spend 1500 Pesos for a bottle of water.
These people are savages and thieves, and if you give them any more credit than this you will be taken advantage of. Don't believe me, go out there and see what happens.Jeeez, where you meeting these girls exactly?
I've been in Centro for 4 times in the last year, avg 2. 5 girls per day x 6 days x 4 trips = for about 60 girls and have had the girls be nothing but sweethearts, not even asking for propina or cab money. That's girls from Seeking Arrangements and Vera Cruz and Raudal redlight blocks, and strip clubs Fase II & Luna Lunera & Coneijtas & Maracaibo & Barra Ejectiva and Casa's New Life & Energy & Yakusa.
And the everyone else in Centro has been friendly and helpful. I've had guys in Conejitas buy me shots.
Some old drunk waved a knife at me and Pollo Negro around 1 am on Maracaibo street, we just ignored him and kept walking and chuckled. And 2 young street girls in Botero, one put her hand in my pocket and got nothing.
Sweet girls:
So true. I went down there with an English dude that was former SAS and me former MMA competitor also with weapons training, both in shape and not the first targets you'd pick if you were a bad guy. We were there at 3 pm in the afternoon, and I'll tell you it was sketchy AF. Can't imagine what it would be. (this coming from two guys that were in war zones).I don't know what war zone you were in but I didn't have a single RPG fired at me in Centro, no IED's, no incoming rockets either.
And the murderous dirty looks from the bearded goat humping Taliban we had in locked up on the base would make your skin crawl.
I had much more fun in Centro then my time in Kandahar Province.
And places I have been in Wash DC make most of Centro look like Club Med.
There are some sketchy industrial areas north of Botero plaza that I would stay out of, you do have to know where you are and where you are going.
Thanks for the link.
I'm not planning on going out much at night and if I do it will be Uber to strip club then straight back, I'll have to think about it carefully.
If I do stay in El Poblado how long will it take to travel to El Centro everyday and how long will it take each way?
Thanks again for anyone who had replied.About 25 to 30 min by Taxi or Metro subway.
"Medellin safety tips.
Medellin is safe to visit if you handle yourself properly and use common sense. We have a number of safety tips that should greatly reduce your risk of being a victim of crime in the city.
Dress conservatively. Look to see how Colombians dress. If you have on shorts and flip-flops in Medellin you are broadcasting that you are a foreigner.
Stay in groups at night. Don't walk alone at night through unfamiliar areas. Take taxis at night.
Never resist if you are a robbery victim. Most thieves will have a gun or knife and will not hesitate to use them. It's not worth risking your life for a few hundred dollars.
Don't leave your drink unattended. It only takes a second for someone to drop something like Scopolamine in your drink.
Don't flash cellphones, cameras or money. Don't display expensive electronics in public places or wear fancy jewelry.
Don't use ATMs on the street stick to ATMs in malls or grocery stores. And be conscious of who might be around.
Be wary of motorcycles whether in a taxi or walking down the street. Robberies by people on a motorcycle are common. Be especially cautious if you see two men on a motorcycle.
Be particularly careful in El Centro. There have been ongoing security problems in chaotic El Centro, especially at night. Some parts of El Centro are magnets for the homeless, drug addicts and drunks and street crime is common. The highest reported crime rates in the city tend to be in El Centro.
Don't be fooled by El Poblado. It may appear to be safe but the statistics indicate that robberies are increasing in El Poblado, which may be due to thieves targeting tourists and the wealthy area of the city.
Don't partake in activities that are probably illegal in your home country (even if they are legal here). Participating in shady activities increases your likelihood of being a crime victim.
Stay away from the poorest neighborhoods of the city like Popular, Santa Cruz, Manrique and 12 de Octubre. Like any big city, Medellin has several neighborhoods that are more dangerous and are not really places for foreigners.
Don't carry your passport with you everywhere. Lock it up in a safe location and carry a copy with you along with another ID like a driver's license or cedula. Only bring credit cards or ATM cards with you that you plan to use.
Keep a low profile so you don't become a target. Be careful about displaying your money or valuables and don't give out information about where you live or are staying to strangers."
https://medellinliving.com/2017-security-in-medellin/
If I leave a strip club before the train stops, I walk to St Antonio and jump on the Metro..I can understand not walking to the Prado station because that area is sketchy but isn't the Berrio station closer to the Centro strip clubs then the Antonio station? Being right there at the edge of Plaza Botero and all.
Assuming you mean Conejitas and Barra Ejectiva and Maracaibo?
I walk around Centro at 1 am, 2 am, 3 am, 4 am, I have yet to be robbed or even approached to be asked for money to be robbed, I just have not. No one wants to rob anyone who they think will kill them, they just do not want to take that chance. I am not telling you to not be cautious, I am telling you if you are on the darker skinned side and grew up in a rough environment and look like you can handle yourself, the chances of you having robbery problems in Colombia are slim to none. Those are just the Hard down facts that I have observed on my visits to Medellin. Medelland Colombia is safe as far as I can see. Pollonegro is out!!Ok, now with all the tough guy talk aside, the truth is, Centro really is a dangerous place at night.
Not like it's a war zone and there are monsters ready to attack, but there is great potential for danger, especially if you're alone.
To say that your chances of being robbed are slim to none is complete bravado and naive.
Pollo has been going to Medellin for about a month now, I've been there for over 20 years now.
Talk to the locals, ask the police, they'll tell you the truth.
All is good till it's not, and it happens quickly, and no one will care if you're a tough guy from the streets of wherever in the US.
Best bet is to take precautions, don't make yourself a target, and don't be naive.
Balboa is out.
SoberHans69
05-07-18, 19:36
Thanks again everyone.
Might book the first few nights in El Poblado and see how I find El Centro when I visit.
I don't drink, I'm streetwise and I'm good shape but obviously I know I'm not bulletproof or stab proof.
Anyone know of any decent pay as you go gyms in El Centro, just want a old fashioned weights gym, none of that high tech cardio rubbish?
BlueChange
05-07-18, 19:47
It was a slow Sunday and the rain had some down and cleared the avenue of poblado. Decided on this one I was talking with for a bit.
https://www.photoprepagos.com/hermosa-escort-nueva-modelo-a-la-espera-de-complacerte-id-ann5r
Her apartment is near del rio parque and in the same building as this other girl I saw. Different apartment though.
She was ready when I got there within 30 min notice. Super cute face, bright white teeth, Hair extensions but JEEZ the ass and tits were spot on.
She had a small tat on her but her skin felt like clouds. I could see marks from all the lipo on her ass and stomach etc. But none the less it was good.
Very light kissing she isn't a huge fan and wanted 40 mil pesos extra for oral naturale. I said yes and she gave a average to more then average BJ. But she really went to town on my balls. Felt really good.
Started with miss then sideways doggy then doggy then her on top. Her puss is tight and hot and very tiny labia. She isn't soo much a robot but also not like loosing herself in the moment either.
Regardless she wasn't too bad. Would I repeat? I'm not sure maybe if no one was around and I Was close and horny. But she won't let you finish on her tits or anything. She is scared of cum.
https://www.photoprepagos.com/hermosa-escort-nueva-modelo-a-la-espera-de-complacerte-id-ann5r
140 MIl pr hour + 40 mil for oral naturale.
Thought I would give back after all the info given to me. I stayed in Poblado. My first casa was Loutron. Complete bust I though. Not worth the long taxi ride out there for 300 k. Only saw one girl worth doing but ended up leaving. Went to energy next and every girl was hideous. Got out of there quick. Went home and at night did the tour of strip clubs: la Isla fase dos Luna Lunera and San Diego. Fase dos had the most energy la Isla was boring and stuck up. The other we're worth it on the weekend but dead weekday.
I then went on a tour to see if Centro is as bad as they say at night. Tijuana was Malibu compared to Centro. Taxi drove me by Mayorista and the executive strip club on Friday night. We drove around 5 or 6 streets and I was done. No way I'm walking around that area at night. We then went to Parque Lleras. By this time it was 4 am and there are many working girls to choose from and much safer area. Bite the bullet and spend the 150 k to get a girl at this park. For those asking how you know who are prostitutes and who are regular girls. It's very easy. No worries on that. They will smile at you give you looks and even wave at you.
Bottom line is if you can't afford 150 k at night for a girl and think that's expensive you should quit mongering. The mayorista ejecutive area in the daytime I'm assuming is fairly safe but I didn't go. Stick to the Centro casas in the day and strip clubs at night and then finish off the night at Parque Lleras if your still horny. Loutron and energy were overrated IMHO.
A quick question, what is the situation like on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday for.
- the Mansion.
- Casas.One of the cutest funnest girls I met in MED was on a Sunday afternoon at Conejitas strip club so you never know.
Mr Enternational
05-07-18, 20:52
Ok, now with all the tough guy talk aside, the truth is, Centro really is a dangerous place at night. Talk to the locals, ask the police, they'll tell you the truth.That means nothing. It is a universal thing for locals around the world to say that their downtown is dangerous at night. Just like one man's junk being another man's treasure, one man's danger zone is another man's comfort zone. Show the stories about something happening to foreigners downtown versus something happening to foreigners in Poblado. The only place that I have ever stayed in Medellin was downtown (besides staying at a chick's house in La Quinta one night) and I have never had any trouble. That is not to say it is for everyone. My 10 could be your 3.
Too bad there aren't any recent night time walk about videos where the street hookers hang and the cops rarely patrol. Ground Zero.A couple of years ago I posted pictures of downtown at night and some of the drug addicts and was chewed out about it. I just wanted to prove the point that I was downtown late at night with my Samsung Galaxy interacting with the people that are giving everyone else a fright, and nothing fucking happened.
So many conflicting reports, I feel for the newbie trying to figure out the truth from fiction concerning Centro safety.
Imo, it really depends on your street experience, perception and comfort levels.
Centro is very different day and night. Especially in the red light areas around Botero Plaza.
Not talking about the museums and sculpture plaza where day trippers and families see the sights.
Too bad there aren't any recent night time walk about videos where the street hookers hang and the cops rarely patrol. Ground Zero.
Confident guys with self defense training and maybe something in their system will have no problems until a gun is pulled.
In my month visit I witnessed a cop point his gun at an assailant and on another day, saw a knife pulled on a street vendor. Both during daylight hours. As always, ymmv.
Will I return?
Hell yeah, because I'm Bill and I'm an addict. LOL.
Show the stories about something happening to foreigners downtown versus something happening to foreigners in Poblado.Foreigner Homicides in Medelland in 2016.
On June 4, Mexican national Jess Estrada de La Rosa, aged 48, was shot dead in Beland when he reportedly tried to prevent the theft of a motorcycle in the Los Alpes barrio.
June 15, Israeli Shay Azran, aged 37, was killed with a firearm near the Exito in Laureles. He was allegedly involved in drug and sex tourism according to news reports.
June 16, Danish Tomas Willemoes, aged 41, was shot to the head in Provenza near Parque Lleras in El Poblado at about 9:30 pm. News reports claim this was a murder for hire so it may have involved shady activities.
September 29, the body of Australian Anthony Hasselback, aged 49, who was living in El Poblado was found along a road with two shots to the head in the municipality of Santo Domingo in Northeastern Antioquia. News reports claim he was involved in sex tourism.
November 19, Ryo Izaki, a 22-year-old Japanese man was shot dead in Estadio on a Saturday at about 4 pm after chasing a pair of suspects who had allegedly taken his mobile phone and tablet.
December 3, a Venezuelan member of the LBGT community was murdered who reportedly had sentimental problems.
In December, the body of a 23-year-old Dutch man was found in Laureles. News reports indicate that on December 10 this backpacker had a discussion with a woman and was shot.
December 14, American Jigar Patel from Illinois was attacked by a knife and killed in the barrio Miranda north of Medelland by two assailants.
On December 16, a body of a man from Dominica was found buried in a wooded area of the Santa Elena district. He was reportedly kidnapped from a shopping mall in El Poblado in October. News reports indicate this homicide was related to the collection of money by drug trafficking networks.
That's:
1 Bellen.
1 Santo Domingo.
1 Estadio.
1 Miranda.
2 Laureles.
2 Poblado.
1 no location given.
https://medellinliving.com/2017-security-in-medellin/
That means nothing. It is a universal thing for locals around the world to say that their downtown is dangerous at night. Just like one man's junk being another man's treasure, one man's danger zone is another man's comfort zone. Show the stories about something happening to foreigners downtown versus something happening to foreigners in Poblado. The only place that I have ever stayed in Medellin was downtown (besides staying at a chick's house in La Quinta one night) and I have never had any trouble. That is not to say it is for everyone. My 10 could be your 3.
A couple of years ago I posted pictures of downtown at night and some of the drug addicts and was chewed out about it. I just wanted to prove the point that I was downtown late at night with my Samsung Galaxy interacting with the people that are giving everyone else a fright, and nothing fucking happened.Yeah, on second thought, if you showed your Samsung cell that night, and didn't get mugged or killed, it must be all safe.
I take all the danger talk back.
Mr E proved me wrong.
Nice work!
A couple of years ago I posted pictures of downtown at night and some of the drug addicts and was chewed out about it. I just wanted to prove the point that I was downtown late at night with my Samsung Galaxy interacting with the people that are giving everyone else a fright, and nothing fucking happened.So you to are implying it's safe for a foreigner to be walking around El Centro late at night when others don't think it would be a good idea.
Well perhaps then next time your in town you can take a video downtown late at night and I hope we all get to see it.
Bottom line is if you can't afford 150 k at night for a girl and think that's expensive you should quit mongering.Why is that? I have had a better time with every 30 k Vera Cruz street girl then I did with the 150 k Energy girl who was horrible.
Everybody has a different budget, not sure why they should quit because of it though. Different strokes for different folks and all.
Just because some people thinks Centro is too dangerous at night doesn't mean everybody does as this thread has proved. And I am not saying it's not, I just don't think it is Fallujah Iraq circa 2004 either.
Mr Enternational
05-08-18, 00:12
So you to are implying it's safe for a foreigner to be walking around El Centro late at night when others don't think it would be a good idea.
Well perhaps then next time your in town you can take a video downtown late at night and I hope we all get to see it.I did make a video, but I took snapshots out of that to post on here. All I am saying is that neither I nor anyone I know has ever had any problems downtown no matter what time. Took my young cousin and his best friend down once. We all came back in about 2 am. The next day him and his friend said they walked back down to Degrieff about 3:30 am. They were not scared and did not encounter any problems.
It has always been safe for me. Whether it will be safe for you is for you to judge. We have seen news of the foreigners getting robbed and killed in Poblado. Is it safe there? We have seen none of this about downtown, yet downtown is deemed to be unsafe.
PolloNegro
05-08-18, 00:56
Yeah, on second thought, if you showed your Samsung cell that night, and didn't get mugged or killed, it must be all safe.
I take all the danger talk back.
Mr E proved me wrong.
Nice work!Me and wolf shot an incredible Hi-def video in Centro, its for my own use, but it is of damn near Hollywood quality! And I didn't get mugged for my equipment!
I did make a video, but I took snapshots out of that to post on here. All I am saying is that neither I nor anyone I know has ever had any problems downtown no matter what time. Took my young cousin and his best friend down once. We all came back in about 2 am. The next day him and his friend said they walked back down to Degrieff about 3:30 am. They were not scared and did not encounter any problems.
It has always been safe for me. Whether it will be safe for you is for you to judge. We have seen news of the foreigners getting robbed and killed in Poblado. Is it safe there? We have seen none of this about downtown, yet downtown is deemed to be unsafe.You have been very lucky as every gringo I know that has stayed in El Centro for at least a week has had problems specifically around the Church area and the north side of the Museum and during daylight hours. Most of them won't go out much at night in that area. Again the area around the Church is not safe and down the street past Avenida de La Grief there is what I would call a drug area that I wouldn't go near period. The typical problems my friends had were guys with knives demanding money, pickpockets, and aggressive trannies.
I am in El Centro a lot and if an obvious foreigner was making a video in the area I described with a nice phone there's a very good chance they would be tackled on the street if there was no police presence.
Why is that? I have had a better time with every 30 k Vera Cruz street girl then I did with the 150 k Energy girl who was horrible..Right on I don't even waste my time with the Strip Clubs or the Casas. I have a stable of Street girls that are solid performers!
Foreigner Homicides in Medelland in 2016.
On June 4, Mexican national Jess Estrada de La Rosa, aged 48, was shot dead in Beland when he reportedly tried to prevent the theft of a motorcycle in the Los Alpes barrio.
June 15, Israeli Shay Azran, aged 37, was killed with a firearm near the Exito in Laureles. He was allegedly involved in drug and sex tourism according to news reports.
June 16, Danish Tomas Willemoes, aged 41, was shot to the head in Provenza near Parque Lleras in El Poblado at about 9:30 pm. News reports claim this was a murder for hire so it may have involved shady activities.
September 29, the body of Australian Anthony Hasselback, aged 49, who was living in El Poblado was found along a road with two shots to the head in the municipality of Santo Domingo in Northeastern Antioquia. News reports claim he was involved in sex tourism.
November 19, Ryo Izaki, a 22-year-old Japanese man was shot dead in Estadio on a Saturday at about 4 pm after chasing a pair of suspects who had allegedly taken his mobile phone and tablet.
December 3, a Venezuelan member of the LBGT community was murdered who reportedly had sentimental problems.
In December, the body of a 23-year-old Dutch man was found in Laureles. News reports indicate that on December 10 this backpacker had a discussion with a woman and was shot.
December 14, American Jigar Patel from Illinois was attacked by a knife and killed in the barrio Miranda north of Medelland by two assailants.
On December 16, a body of a man from Dominica was found buried in a wooded area of the Santa Elena district. He was reportedly kidnapped from a shopping mall in El Poblado in October. News reports indicate this homicide was related to the collection of money by drug trafficking networks.
That's:
1 Bellen.
1 Santo Domingo.
1 Estadio.
1 Miranda.
2 Laureles.
2 Poblado.
1 no location given.
https://medellinliving.com/2017-security-in-medellin/
Me and wolf shot an incredible Hi-def video in Centro, its for my own use, but it is of damn near Hollywood quality! And I didn't get mugged for my equipment!
Again, excellent proof that I was wrong.
Centro is definitely one of the safer areas of Medellin.
Between your evidence and MrE and Pollo’s real life tests, we have all the proof we need.
Balboa out!
Well Mr. Enter national may mean well he's obviously not experienced about late night El Central. I lived there for a month and a half last year and even as big strong dude as my self was threatened many times, I do not recommend letting your gaurd down there. The poor Colombian even only armed with a small 22 can still pose a legitimate threat to the baddest of gringos. Men proceed with caution in this seedy area or face an uncertainty you may not want.
Again, excellent proof that I was wrong.
Centro is definitely one of the safer areas of Medellin.
Between your evidence and MrE and Pollos real life tests, we have all the proof we need.
Balboa out!I just posted some facts with no commentary at all. And those facts showed 4 foreigners killed in Poblado & Laurales and none in Centro in 2016. Does that prove Centro is safe, no but it does show Poblado & Laurales can be dangerous also.
I wish to advise all visitors to Medellin to ignore all reports here by those 'brave' mongers who speak about taking videos in El Centro at night. Are you certain that they really did that? It is a dangerous practice for 2 reasons. One, people have been killed in El Centro for their cell phones. Two, there are some shady characters who, for whatever reason, do not want their images recorded. It is a very dangerous practice. Will these brave mongers be there to help you when you find yourself in a dangerous situation?
You have been very lucky as every gringo I know that has stayed in El Centro for at least a week has had problems specifically around the Church area and the north side of the Museum and during daylight hours. Most of them won't go out much at night in that area. Again the area around the Church is not safe and down the street past Avenida de La Grief there is what I would call a drug area that I wouldn't go near period. The typical problems my friends had were guys with knives demanding money, pickpockets, and aggressive trannies.
I am in El Centro a lot and if an obvious foreigner was making a video in the area I described with a nice phone there's a very good chance they would be tackled on the street if there was no police presence.Excuse me Surfer, you have obviously not seen the proof already posted on the relative safety of el Centro.
Your gringo friends must have been very unlucky.
I’m being silly because the el Centro at night safety debate is ridiculous.
Of course all the ex Navy Seals, Army Rangers, Bronx tough guys, etc, have had no problems.
And they didn’t kill MrE that night for his cell phone, so it must be safe right.
For new guys; use common sense, take precautions, think that it’s dangerous, and you’ll be better off.
So true. I went down there with an English dude that was former SAS and me former MMA competitor also with weapons training, both in shape and not the first targets you'd pick if you were a bad guy. We were there at 3 pm in the afternoon, and I'll tell you it was sketchy AF. Can't imagine what it would be. (this coming from two guys that were in war zones).
Now let me also tell you there are fake cops down there that shake down gringos walking out of Zandalay and other massage casas. I can't imagine being a retiree down here. You have no defense.
Also these cops and people have an anti-Donald trump / USA lean now and they are just looking for a reason to steal from you or police the reason to mess with you! Guys going to centro are literally risking their lives for some fanny. I know the cheap charlies on a pension will freak out about this, but it is true. Go down there and see for yourself. Anyone who says it is safe has on rose colored glasses and is what we call "a future victim".I must have been doing it wrong. From late October 2017 to the end of March, I made between 60 and 100 trips to El Centro. I never took a taxi, mostly relying on the Metro, with an occasional bus ride. Twice I walked there from Laureles. About 90% of the time I walked alone. My walks covered from the Alpujarra metro station up to Prado. East of the Metro I covered most of the streets up to about Carrera 35. West of the Metro I went as far as Carrera 57. Call it about 250 miles of walking in El Centro over about 120 hours. The latest I was walking El Centro was about 10:30 pm.
Except for one botched pick pocket attempt I experienced no threats. There was one streetwalker who got a little grabby with a guy I was walking with and later the same night I saw 2 young guys beat up an old Colombian and take a phone from him.
Although I never made use of the streetwalkers, I walked those streets many times. I preferred the casas and my Facebook contacts. Not one of the women tried to extort me or threatened to call the police, and not one tried to raise the price. A few wanted to stay longer and a few did, but none asked for more money. More than one came over and just hung out on an evening when I didn't want anything. All I paid was their taxi (although 2 took the Metro, so cost me nothing).
I know people personally who were robbed in El Centro. When I asked what happened the response was "I wasn't paying attention."
If all the girls are trying to extort you, then you must be doing something wrong. Almost every girl I was with over the 353 consecutive days I was in Colombia (5 of those days in Bogota, the rest in Medellin) either wanted to see me again, or wanted to see me again and wanted to bring a friend. Almost every time I ran into a girl I'd been with before, at least one of the friends she was with would give me a number and ask when we could get together.
I'm not a former MMA fighter, never really been in a fight. Always seemed a silly pursuit to me. While I have my share of military experience, I never was anywhere near to combat, except for watching a few bar fights. However, I always felt right at home in El Centro. I visited the restaurants and bars, and saw the sights, whenever I had the opportunity.
The people are not savages. Most of them are fine and friendly people. If your opinion is that they are savages I seriously doubt that you've ever been within 1000 miles of Medellin.
Alright as a first time timer going to Medellin and curious about the street scene in centro what is the safest way to check it out? Is there a map of it anywhere or details on the streets to go to and from where to access it? I don't look like a victim at all and was never messed with even in some of the hoods of the Dominican where people said it wouldn't be safe for my white gringo ass. That said I also don't see the point in being dumb for no reason. I will be there in 2 days and have some normal girls lined up for dates as well as some semi pro and pros but would like to sample the street scene also.
I did make a video, but I took snapshots out of that to post on here. All I am saying is that neither I nor anyone I know has ever had any problems downtown no matter what time. Took my young cousin and his best friend down once. We all came back in about 2 am. The next day him and his friend said they walked back down to Degrieff about 3:30 am. They were not scared and did not encounter any problems.
It has always been safe for me. Whether it will be safe for you is for you to judge. We have seen news of the foreigners getting robbed and killed in Poblado. Is it safe there? We have seen none of this about downtown, yet downtown is deemed to be unsafe.Of course, it's extremely safe, el Poblado is definitely much more dangerous.
Your cousins not being afraid there is even more proof.
Excellent work!
John Gault
05-08-18, 03:20
Ok some guys like Centro others do not. One thing I have learned in my long life is it is silly to try, and change other peoples opinions.
Lets get on to the trip reports.
Ok some guys like Centro others do not. One thing I have learned in my long life is it is silly to try, and change other peoples opinions.
Lets get on to the trip reports.I'll tell you the heart of the problem then others can pick up the ball and do what they wish with it. Most people posting on this thread have not set foot in Medellin in several years if ever at all. And yes there are guys that are that big a losers, who spend their lives in front of their computer screens, recycling info that they read off the same threads. That's why we get all the clutter from armchair philosophers. They do not even vacation in Medellin Hello?
Black Page
05-08-18, 11:06
I wish to advise all visitors to Medellin to ignore all reports here by those 'brave' mongers who speak about taking videos in El Centro at night. Are you certain that they really did that? It is a dangerous practice for 2 reasons. One, people have been killed in El Centro for their cell phones. Two, there are some shady characters who, for whatever reason, do not want their images recorded. It is a very dangerous practice. Will these brave mongers be there to help you when you find yourself in a dangerous situation?I violently second all that you write here. Both reasons are enough to cause extreme danger.
I have utmost respect for MrE, and I am used to be on his same wavelength, but in this case he really wrote something extremely dangerous to all those who are naive enough and do not know what is a street in a SouthAmerican city as Medellin.
Mr. E, how would you feel if some idiot takes your words literally and dives without precautions in that environment? Think twice: the readers of this ISG are by a small percentage experienced people, while the vast majority is rather vulnerable.
From the number of reports that I have read in the last 1-2 years, about people going around at night in Medelllin like if they were on La Promenade des Anglais at Nice, I understood that the overall security in Medellin has dramatically improved. I personally witnessed robs and violent acts in front of me, while walking around under the metro of Prado at night more than 5 years ago. I have seen two guys attacking from the back a lonely man, taking everything from his pockets and backpack. I have seen a group of 10+ teenagers jumping on another lonely man to rob everything. I have seen a teenager hit to blood by someone who he tried to rob. I have been attacked twice with a small knife.
Maybe now all such acts are less common. Yet, it happens that people is killed for a cell phone. Life has little value for some people surviving in those barrios. I strongly advise everyone to be extremely considerate.
JerkMcGerk
05-08-18, 12:26
Is centro more dangerous during the day than say Tijuana?
LookingToSwing4
05-08-18, 13:30
I was going to stay at the Blux but when I messaged the owners of the airbnbs about guest they made it a point to say sex workers. I told them it would be friends not prepaids but they are woman and I didn't get answers that I had faith in that it wouldn't be an issue if there would be a few different ones so I booked somewhere else. Just didn't want to take the risk
,This was my exact experience when I was direct with my questions to unit owners. Some were direct with no ambiguity, while others were more vague. The vague responses were the ones that concerned me because I did not want to lock-in on a place where guests would be turned away. And while this does NOT mean female guests are not allowed, a lack of tolerance toward them is a trend that I had not experienced in my 6+ years of staying there. As I said in my original post, I am doubtful there is a building rule due to the rental property owner ratio, but more owners explicitly state that kind of activity is not welcome. Seems to mirror the tolerance seen all over Poblado, especially in Parque Lleras. So is this a real change from the past? I do not know. Is it an attempt to deflect attention? Possibly. There are a good number of owner occupied units that exist in the in building, and perhaps they are growing tired and exercising their rights!
Mr Enternational
05-08-18, 13:48
Mr. E, how would you feel if some idiot takes your words literally and dives without precautions in that environment?My words were literal, but I never said to walk around with your head in the clouds. I would advise someone to be vigilant even if walking through Beverly Hills.
BlueChange
05-08-18, 13:51
Thought I would give back after all the info given to me. I stayed in Poblado. My first casa was Loutron. Complete bust I though. Not worth the long taxi ride out there for 300 k. Only saw one girl worth doing but ended up leaving. Went to energy next and every girl was hideous. Got out of there quick. Went home and at night did the tour of strip clubs: la Isla fase dos Luna Lunera and San Diego. Fase dos had the most energy la Isla was boring and stuck up. The other we're worth it on the weekend but dead weekday.
I then went on a tour to see if Centro is as bad as they say at night. Tijuana was Malibu compared to Centro. Taxi drove me by Mayorista and the executive strip club on Friday night. We drove around 5 or 6 streets and I was done. No way I'm walking around that area at night. We then went to Parque Lleras. By this time it was 4 am and there are many working girls to choose from and much safer area. Bite the bullet and spend the 150 k to get a girl at this park. For those asking how you know who are prostitutes and who are regular girls. It's very easy. No worries on that. They will smile at you give you looks and even wave at you.
Bottom line is if you can't afford 150 k at night for a girl and think that's expensive you should quit mongering. The mayorista ejecutive area in the daytime I'm assuming is fairly safe but I didn't go. Stick to the Centro casas in the day and strip clubs at night and then finish off the night at Parque Lleras if your still horny. Loutron and energy were overrated IMHO.I think right now we hit a slow week between the holiday last week and finals for school coming up, these chicks are resting up.
Soon enough girls will be back at it again I'm sure.
This was my exact experience when I was direct with my questions to unit owners. Some were direct with no ambiguity, while others were more vague...a lack of tolerance toward them is a trend that I had not experienced in my 6+ years of staying there...more owners explicitly state that kind of activity is not welcome. Seems to mirror the tolerance seen all over Poblado, especially in Parque Lleras. So is this a real change from the past?...I have been staying at Blux as well every time I was in Medellin, for the past 3 years. I also noticed the trend, trying to discourage sex tourism, via various posters. I was just there recently, and they had a poster warning about sex tourism, on the unit refrigerator, can't miss it.
Many girls have told me that full time residents do not like that activity at all, and are trying to get rid of it. They have a lady door guard there now, who appears mean and give girls a hard time, but the others are nice. I was wondering whether that was another tactic employed by management to discourage unwanted visitors.
SexBomb123
05-08-18, 16:54
Hi guys,
About to take my first trip to Medellíand. Still working my way through the last 100 pages of posts, so apologies if this has been answered already.
Can people go to the Mansion as guests that aren't paying to stay there? Is there a cost to get in? Is there a bar just to go and hang? I saw there is M1 and M2, are they 2 very separate buildings?
Do you have to pay a fee to use a room there with a chica or do you then have to take her to your apartment, etc?
Thanks.
1 SB.
Mr Enternational
05-08-18, 17:21
Can people go to the Mansion as guests that aren't paying to stay there? Is there a cost to get in? Is there a bar just to go and hang? I saw there is M1 and M2, are they 2 very separate buildings?
Do you have to pay a fee to use a room there with a chica or do you then have to take her to your apartment, etc?Sometimes you can. Sometimes you can't. But if you do then you will have to pay a fee. Don't know how you could use an extra room since the place is always booked up. Why even go to the mansion? It is just a hotel with a few chicks hanging around. There are plenty of casas and strip clubs to go to with tons of cheaper chicks hanging around.
170K for a room + 200K for a chick at the mansion = 371K. Downtown casa = 35K. Strip club = 80K. Hmmmm.
SexBomb123
05-08-18, 17:28
Sometimes you can. Sometimes you can't. But if you do then you will have to pay a fee. Don't know how you could use an extra room since the place is always booked up. Why even go to the mansion? It is just a hotel with a few chicks hanging around. There are plenty of casas and strip clubs to go to with tons of cheaper chicks hanging around. 170K for a room + 200K for a chick at the mansion = 371K. Downtown casa = 35K. Strip club = 80K. Hmmmm.Thanks, I'the just read so much about it here I wanted to check it out. Obviously I will be using all of the other methods you've mentioned to meet the chicks, I was intrigued by the concept but prefer to stay at an AirBnb in Poblado.
I couldn't guess whether I'm especially lucky, careful, or don't look gringo enough. I haven't had problems going back years. I've seen many robberies and robbery attempts. Most of them of course involved Colombian victims and perpetrators because most of the people. Especially in Centro. Are Colombian. I don't take safety for granted. I keep my eyes open and I don't tempt fate by displaying valuables or hanging around isolated areas after dark and alone. It's foolish to expect complete safety in a marginal neighborhood like Centro. I don't want to see anyone get jacked but I also don't want to scare anyone from visiting.
I must have been doing it wrong. From late October 2017 to the end of March, I made between 60 and 100 trips to El Centro. I never took a taxi, mostly relying on the Metro, with an occasional bus ride. Twice I walked there from Laureles. About 90% of the time I walked alone. My walks covered from the Alpujarra metro station up to Prado. East of the Metro I covered most of the streets up to about Carrera 35. West of the Metro I went as far as Carrera 57. Call it about 250 miles of walking in El Centro over about 120 hours. The latest I was walking El Centro was about 10:30 pm.
Except for one botched pick pocket attempt I experienced no threats. There was one streetwalker who got a little grabby with a guy I was walking with and later the same night I saw 2 young guys beat up an old Colombian and take a phone from him.
Although I never made use of the streetwalkers, I walked those streets many times. I preferred the casas and my Facebook contacts. Not one of the women tried to extort me or threatened to call the police, and not one tried to raise the price. A few wanted to stay longer and a few did, but none asked for more money. More than one came over and just hung out on an evening when I didn't want anything. All I paid was their taxi (although 2 took the Metro, so cost me nothing)..
Is centro more dangerous during the day than say Tijuana?In my opinion which differs perhaps than some of the other members a definitive yes. However in Tijuana the cops in Cahuilla around Constitution Ave like to shake down the gringos by trying to intimidate them. That's one big difference than here in Medellin. Another big difference is English is widely spoken in Tijuana.
I couldn't guess whether I'm especially lucky, careful, or don't look gringo enough. I haven't had problems going back years. I've seen many robberies and robbery attempts. Most of them of course involved Colombian victims and perpetrators because most of the people. Especially in Centro. Are Colombian. I don't take safety for granted. I keep my eyes open and I don't tempt fate by displaying valuables or hanging around isolated areas after dark and alone. It's foolish to expect complete safety in a marginal neighborhood like Centro. I don't want to see anyone get jacked but I also don't want to scare anyone from visiting.That's the proper attitude. I don't encourage people to walk around El Centro. However, I took several people for a tour if they wanted to see for themselves. I had the benefit of having someone take me around Centro the first time I decided to walk it, instead of just taking a taxi in and out.
Is it safe? Nowhere is safe. Where you are, with a few exceptions, matters a lot less than how you act.
Is centro more dangerous during the day than say Tijuana?Tijuana overall has a much higher homicide rate, with 1,744 murdered out of a population of 1.7 million in 2017, Med had 534 killed with over 2.5 million. (pop. Estimates vary as the last census was in 2005). But most of those will be gang members killing members of other gangs, not tourists.
Alright as a first time timer going to Medellin and curious about the street scene in centro what is the safest way to check it out? Is there a map of it anywhere or details on the streets to go to and from where to access it?.I have one posted in the MED Hotel thread attached to my review of the hotel Botero, but the website reduces the size, if it is hard to read, PM me a email and I will send you the full size one. Here it is again.
Safest hours are between 10 a and 4 p, later it gets the more drunk locals you get.
On my map the top left block is Raudal, less girls but usually hotter ones, 50-80 k, lower left is the block behind the VeraCruz church, it is the busiest one, girls start at 30 k and will be very close to a short term hotel they will take you too. If they look young make sure you card them, the young ones hang out there on the corner, "Cedula por favor" (ID) Make sure they are 18+.
Lower right around Bolivar park ignore, mostly not females.
Alright as a first time timer going to Medellin and curious about the street scene in centro what is the safest way to check it out? Is there a map of it anywhere or details on the streets to go to and from where to access it?My redlight map #2-ignore the redlight zone around Parque Bolivar, mostly not women.
Hi guys,
About to take my first trip to Medelland. Still working my way through the last 100 pages of posts, so apologies if this has been answered already.
Can people go to the Mansion as guests that aren't paying to stay there? Is there a cost to get in? Is there a bar just to go and hang? I saw there is M1 and M2, are they 2 very separate buildings?
Do you have to pay a fee to use a room there with a chica or do you then have to take her to your apartment, etc?
Thanks.
1 SB.Occasionally, they allow people not staying there to enter. There is an entry fee. Someone posted that the fee is 50 mil, but I think it depends on how the management feels that day. If they allow you to enter, you can only go to the bar. No problem just hanging.
M1 and M2 are separate buildings. The bar is in M1. M2 is up the hill from M1. If you don't have a room, you are not allowed in M2. If you have a room, you are allowed in both buildings.
There are no short-term rooms. You must take the lady somewhere else.
LookingToSwing4
05-09-18, 14:00
I have been staying at Blux as well every time I was in Medellin, for the past 3 years. I also noticed the trend, trying to discourage sex tourism, via various posters. I was just there recently, and they had a poster warning about sex tourism, on the unit refrigerator, can't miss it.
Many girls have told me that full time residents do not like that activity at all, and are trying to get rid of it. They have a lady door guard there now, who appears mean and give girls a hard time, but the others are nice. I was wondering whether that was another tactic employed by management to discourage unwanted visitors.I think this could be very well the tactic being employed. Given the rental ownership ratio, it is still considered a legal short-term rental unit. But not sure the ones who live there full-time are not allowed to make it difficult to restrict access of those they deem undesirables. After all, they have rights too!
BlueChange
05-09-18, 16:43
I think this could be very well the tactic being employed. Given the rental ownership ratio, it is still considered a legal short-term rental unit. But not sure the ones who live there full-time are not allowed to make it difficult to restrict access of those they deem undesirables. After all, they have rights too!Times are changing but the weird part is the increase in violence lately. The security right now might be for chicas but just look. A building in Laurles that rents to foreigners was shot up last month!
Imagine being security for that shit!
https://www.minuto30.com/fotos-lo-persiguieron-hasta-el-interior-de-un-edificio-para-asesinarlo/601857/
SoberHans69
05-09-18, 19:49
Thanks to everyone who commented on the safety of El Centro.
Sorry if I caused arguments.
Say I did stay in El Poblado near the Santa Fe mall for example, how much is a taxi to and from the casa's in El Centro going to cost me? Read online is should be around 10 dollar's each way, that will soon add up.
Is it possible to use public transport without being fluent?
Sorry for all the questions.
Gents,
I echo those who advise both caution and encouragement re: Medellin. You should feel encouraged to visit. But you should always be cautious as a foreigner. Especially in a place like Medellin with evolving political / social norms. Your goal should be to go under-the-radar wherever you are. That means: dressing modestly and in-line w / the locals (save the flashy, trendy designer clothes for Miami or NYC) - don't go out wearing Prada sunglasses, blinged out watches, and snap-chatting on an iPhone X in el centro. Regardless of what time it is (but if you do this at night. You're tempting fate).
A lot of people get in trouble for not exercising common sense: they get a little too confident which leads to arrogance and start having el jefe fantasies where they feel like they are untouchable. You're very touchable, and just one wrong move from getting into a predicament where you bite off more than you can chew. You should also know that it's distasteful to overtly gawk and approach younger local women if you're an older gringo. It's frowned upon by the locals and you're putting a target on your back. Unless you're a veteran and have years under your belt in Medellin. Keep it simple: Be tasteful, be discreet, respect the local culture, stay low-key and abide by the local laws, always.
Thanks to everyone who commented on the safety of El Centro.
Sorry if I caused arguments.
Say I did stay in El Poblado near the Santa Fe mall for example, how much is a taxi to and from the casa's in El Centro going to cost me? Read online is should be around 10 dollar's each way, that will soon add up.
Is it possible to use public transport without being fluent?
Sorry for all the questions.A taxi from Santa Fe to downtown is about 10, but not 10 dollars. It's 10 mil COP, which is less than $3. 50.
You don't need to know any Spanish to use the Metro. From Santa Fe, you can walk to the Aguacatala station during the day. The Metro tickets are less than 3 mil. Go to the ticket booth and tell the agent "dos", or hold up two fingers. Give them 10 mil and they will give you a card that looks similar to a credit card, and your change from the 10 mil. Go to the turnstile and hold your card in front of the reader, then go through the turnstile. If you only have one trip left on your card, you must put it in a slot reader instead of holding it in front of the reader. Once through the turnstile, you have two choices, Niquia or La Estrella. You want to go towards Niquia. Get off at the Parque Berrio stop. When returning to Santa Fe, go towards La Estrella. Using the buses is a little more difficult because you must figure out what bus to get on. If you can find the correct bus, then get on and pay the driver. I think the fare on most routes now is 2100 COP. There is an oval sticker on the windshield listing the fare.
BlueChange
05-09-18, 23:08
Damn, so I been having a bad streek and ususally its never this many in a row.
I guess I'm down cause my real novia and I ended it. SHe wanted it more then me but she is depressive and suicidial so many its for the best.
Anyway, I been trying to lock down this one chica I saw in an add for a week. She is located in Laurlres. Fianlly she responds and gives me the addy.
I get there, she is a smoke stack! About 5 5, super flacka but with nice bolt on tits that aren't too big but she has really really nice nipples. The type that are a bit long but not freeksly. She has a booty to that is real. If I had to describe her I would say she is like a slightly darker version of the Pornstar Shy Love. She is super playful, speaks a lilttle bit of english but is cool. She starts getting into me. Very very light kissing. But its cool. She does oral naturale for a propina. Its realy nice. Perfect ball play. I really enjoyed it. Rubber goes on, she gets ontop. Tight, and hot. I have to get to her slow down so I don't pop too song. I get on top next and I really love the grip of her tits. They are like a bit seperated but smaller then the average implant but still I love to grip on her nipples and fuck her. We do doggy she puts it back into me and then I flip her for sideways doggy. This is where the real fun happeneds. I start to rub on her clit a little and she laughs and giggles. In spanish she is telling me its her job and not important for her to cum. I play more but she doesn't cum but its still fun. I ask her where she wants my cum and before I can finish my scentence she says "tetas?" Perfecta. She rubs really nice and slow and I shoot an 8 ropper of custard. She laughs at how much there is. I get her personal whatsapp and name. She is going to come over later this week and ill cook and fuck her todo la noche for a small price.
Have fun guys!
DorianGray2020
05-10-18, 00:22
First day in Medellin. I'll write a report later. How does it work with street hookers in centro? I saw a really hot one but I chicked out.
Is it possible to make it happen if you don't speak Spanish? Where would I take her? Or do they know where to go?
LookingToSwing4
05-10-18, 01:23
Times are changing but the weird part is the increase in violence lately. The security right now might be for chicas but just look. A building in Laurles that rents to foreigners was shot up last month!
Imagine being security for that shit!
https://www.minuto30.com/fotos-lo-persiguieron-hasta-el-interior-de-un-edificio-para-asesinarlo/601857/I had considered renting in that building last December. Yikes.
Thank you, very helpful.
I have one posted in the MED Hotel thread attached to my review of the hotel Botero, but the website reduces the size, if it is hard to read, PM me a email and I will send you the full size one. Here it is again.
Safest hours are between 10 a and 4 p, later it gets the more drunk locals you get.
On my map the top left block is Raudal, less girls but usually hotter ones, 50-80 k, lower left is the block behind the VeraCruz church, it is the busiest one, girls start at 30 k and will be very close to a short term hotel they will take you too. If they look young make sure you card them, the young ones hang out there on the corner, "Cedula por favor" (ID) Make sure they are 18+.
Lower right around Bolivar park ignore, mostly not females.
First day in Medellin. I'll write a report later. How does it work with street hookers in centro? I saw a really hot one but I chicked out.
Is it possible to make it happen if you don't speak Spanish? Where would I take her? Or do they know where to go?If you mean one in the areas on my map, they take you close to a short term hotel upstairs, all the ones I have been in were nice enough. Not sure how it would work with out some Spanish. I suppose you could write down numbers or use google translate but you will look like a fish out of water. With no Spanish I would stick to the casa's and strip clubs, that would be safer, a gringo with no Spanish on the street scream's "Papaya" (fruit to be plucked in Colombian slang).
First day in Medellin. I'll write a report later. How does it work with street hookers in centro? I saw a really hot one but I chicked out.
Is it possible to make it happen if you don't speak Spanish? Where would I take her? Or do they know where to go?Or try to hook up with a gringo that speaks Spanish and knows the scene, if you post in "travel announcements" maybe somebody will be in town that can help.
First day in Medellin. I'll write a report later. How does it work with street hookers in centro? I saw a really hot one but I chicked out.
Is it possible to make it happen if you don't speak Spanish? Where would I take her? Or do they know where to go?"quanto questa?" means how much. Most quoted 20 k and 30 k and included the room upstairs. On avg. Paid 20 k plus room at 5 k and 10 k. 30 min. Naked, pay after.
No spanish? Wish you luck.
Chickened out? You sound like an incident waiting to happen!
DorianGray2020
05-10-18, 07:43
Went to New Life today. I was very disappointed. I thought I would find 8's and 9's. I found 5's and 6's.
Mr Enternational
05-10-18, 07:48
"quanto questa?" means how much. Most quoted 20 k and 30 k and included the room upstairs. On avg. Paid 20 k plus room at 5 k and 10 k. 30 min. Naked, pay after.
No spanish? Wish you luck.
Chickened out? You sound like an incident waiting to happen!Looks like you could use a little luck yourself. It seems you are mixing Portuguese and god knows what. Portuguese: quanto custa. Spanish: cuanto cuesta.
If you mean one in the areas on my map, they take you close to a short term hotel upstairs, all the ones I have been in were nice enough. Not sure how it would work with out some Spanish. I suppose you could write down numbers or use google translate but you will look like a fish out of water. With no Spanish I would stick to the casa's and strip clubs, that would be safer, a gringo with no Spanish on the street scream's "Papaya" (fruit to be plucked in Colombian slang).This is good advice as I cannot imagine how someone with no Spanish skills could successfully navigate the El Centro Street scene. Perhaps this guy could carry some flash cards with translations of what he wanted such as sexo oral sin condom.
I actually saw a guy with flash cards who didn't speak any Spanish in Tijuana once and it appeared to be quite effective for him but of course El Centro is very different indeed.
Mr Enternational
05-10-18, 15:57
This is good advice as I cannot imagine how someone with no Spanish skills could successfully navigate the El Centro Street scene.It is not that hard. I did it in Vietnam (at night in an area that most here would be petrified to go to - and of course I was not "blending in") and I can't even say hello in Vietnamese. Pussy and money are universal languages.
It is not that hard. I did it in Vietnam (at night in an area that most here would be petrified to go to - and of course I was not "blending in") and I can't even say hello in Vietnamese. Pussy and money are universal languages.A universal language indeed but your comparing apples to oranges in that El Centro in my opinion is far more dangerous than the red light districts I visited in Saigon. And as your aware besides French more English is spoken in Vietnam than in Colombia.
It is not that hard. I did it in Vietnam (at night in an area that most here would be petrified to go to - and of course I was not "blending in") and I can't even say hello in Vietnamese. Pussy and money are universal languages.Again, a man among men.
There is no danger anywhere pussy is involved, Lol.
If he can do it, we all can, Lol.
It is not that hard. I did it in Vietnam (at night in an area that most here would be petrified to go to - and of course I was not "blending in") and I can't even say hello in Vietnamese. Pussy and money are universal languages.Amen Mr. E. I am with you on that one. I have done the same thing in Ho Chi Minh City just last year and yes, I wasn't in the best area of town either. I can say the same for every country I go to.
I understand what very disappointed means. This bears repeating even though it's been covered many times here and elsewhere- 5, 6, 1, 8 etc. Mean different things to different people.
To be constructive, I can tell you that you will find all the girls at Fase II and Energy / Tantra / LunaLunera better dressed and some of them better looking than what you found at New Life. Let us know how you like those options.
Went to New Life today. I was very disappointed. I thought I would find 8's and 9's. I found 5's and 6's.
PolloNegro
05-11-18, 03:18
In Medellin right now, been here since Tuesday, I leave Saturday. I have had 3-4 girls a day. Plus I have had my girlfriend with me on every session. I guess I'm just pushing my luck? Well I took these nice pics in front of the church, in centro, with my new Galaxy S9 and no one robbed me? My girlfriend is in the pic of the church, Go figure? I have no idea which Medellin or which Centro you all are visiting, but I been banging chics since I landed. Hey Wolf, Our friend is still at the Hotel we spoke for a while. I guess the sharks can smell prey and also the killer whales when they are out and about. I have pics and numbers for anyone interested in the honeys I saw since landing Tuesday! I have nothing but love for Medellin! Pollonegro is out!
Can anyone provide info (website hopefully) on how / where to catch a bus out of Medellin? Specifically looking to go to Pereira and to Bucaramanga and to Cucuta. Looking for safety, comfort, and speed in that order!
Thanks in advance!
Mr Enternational
05-11-18, 05:23
Well I took these nice pics in front of the church, in centro, with my new Galaxy S9 and no one robbed me? My girlfriend is in the pic of the church, Go figure? I have no idea which Medellin or which Centro you all are visiting, but I been banging chics since I landed. Great pics! And congratulations on not getting robbed like most do. But that is not a church. That is the palacio. I stay at the hotel right on the side of it. I was taking a taxi back one day and told him the church. He dropped me off in front of a church down the street. I told the next taxi driver the same thing and he didn't know what church I was talking about. I showed him a picture of it and told me it was the Palacio.
But that is not a church. That is the palacio. I stay at the hotel right on the side of it. I was taking a taxi back one day and told him the church. He dropped me off in front of a church down the street. I told the next taxi driver the same thing and he didn't know what church I was talking about. I showed him a picture of it and told me it was the Palacio.It's the Rafael Uribe Uribe Palace of Culture, built in 1925 with a Belgian architect.
"The Rafael Uribe Uribe Palace was originally the official building for the Government of Antioquia, and was known as "Calibo Palace". It was under construction from the 1925 to 1937 and designed by Belgian architect Agustand Goovaerts in a Gothic Revival style."
It's free to go in by the way and has some good photo ops for any cuties you have with you.
Pollo, say Hi to Stewie for me!
Mr Enternational
05-11-18, 05:45
A universal language indeed but your comparing apples to oranges in that El Centro in my opinion is far more dangerous than the red light districts I visited in Saigon. And as your aware besides French more English is spoken in Vietnam than in Colombia.I wasn't talking about HCMC. I was talking about Pham Van Dong in Hanoi where I had to go inside of an abandoned building with a chick! http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1041-Hanoi&p=1395740&viewfull=1#post1395740.
TimeKeeper281
05-11-18, 06:25
In Medellin right now, been here since Tuesday, I leave Saturday. I have had 3-4 girls a day. Plus I have had my girlfriend with me on every session. I guess I'm just pushing my luck? Well I took these nice pics in front of the church, in centro, with my new Galaxy S9 and no one robbed me? My girlfriend is in the pic of the church, Go figure? I have no idea which Medellin or which Centro you all are visiting, but I been banging chics since I landed. Hey Wolf, Our friend is still at the Hotel we spoke for a while. I guess the sharks can smell prey and also the killer whales when they are out and about. I have pics and numbers for anyone interested in the honeys I saw since landing Tuesday! I have nothing but love for Medellin! Pollonegro is out!Are they paying to fuck you? Jajaja.
Quagmire1974
05-11-18, 07:16
Can anyone provide info (website hopefully) on how / where to catch a bus out of Medellin? Specifically looking to go to Pereira and to Bucaramanga and to Cucuta. Looking for safety, comfort, and speed in that order!
Thanks in advance!When exactly will you be traveling? If it isn't for a few weeks, pick up a copy of Lonely Planet Colombia. That book does an excellent job detailing most cities in Colombia and how to reach them. When I was in Medellin in November 2015, the busses to Guatape and Sante Fe de Antioquia left Medellin from the Terminal del Norte bus station, while the busses to Jardin left from the Terminal del Sur bus station.
In Medellin right now, been here since Tuesday, I leave Saturday. I have had 3-4 girls a day. Plus I have had my girlfriend with me on every session. I guess I'm just pushing my luck? Well I took these nice pics in front of the church, in centro, with my new Galaxy S9 and no one robbed me? My girlfriend is in the pic of the church, Go figure? I have no idea which Medellin or which Centro you all are visiting, but I been banging chics since I landed. Hey Wolf, Our friend is still at the Hotel we spoke for a while. I guess the sharks can smell prey and also the killer whales when they are out and about. I have pics and numbers for anyone interested in the honeys I saw since landing Tuesday! I have nothing but love for Medellin! Pollonegro is out!Do you know the name of the Church you took all these photos at? The photo of the building you took doesn't resemble any of the churches I've seen in Medellin. It also appears very blurry on my I phone for some reason.
I wasn't talking about HCMC. I was talking about Pham Van Dong in Hanoi where I had to go inside of an abandoned building with a chick! http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1041-Hanoi&p=1395740&viewfull=1#post1395740.Wow nice detailed post sounds similar to a place I visited in New Delhi.
Wild Walleye
05-11-18, 16:24
This is good advice as I cannot imagine how someone with no Spanish skills could successfully navigate the El Centro Street scene. Perhaps this guy could carry some flash cards with translations of what he wanted such as sexo oral sin condom.
I actually saw a guy with flash cards who didn't speak any Spanish in Tijuana once and it appeared to be quite effective for him but of course El Centro is very different indeed.I've managed to hook up with about 200 women who spoke virtually no English and I didn't speak their language. Most of them were Argentinian. I have never done the street scene. I do lots of homework (here and local foros). I know exactly where I am going, when going to privados (apartments) and what to expect, even when it's the first time there. At the clubs, I can use enough pigeon-Spanish to negotiate a deal. I learn the phrases for what I want. I don't use the websites to order room service, unless it is a specific, well-reviewed chica. I did that (order room service because of hot pictures on a pita website) once, and it was my one and only dismal failure in 15+ years. I have been introduced to a bunch of chicas by senior members of this forum (and Argentina Private) and they have all been very good. I have gone to a few clubs with senior, local members (all fluent) and that can help, too.
I am pretty good about blending in. I don't wear any outwardly branded American clothing and nothing flashy. I've walked the streets of cities all over the world at all times of day and night, almost always by myself. However, if the location is a little dodgy, I will look for groups of other people who are going in my direction (or towards a more populated area) and I will stay sort of close to them, without giving them the impression that I am following them.
..........I am pretty good about blending in. I don't wear any outwardly branded American clothing and nothing flashy. I've walked the streets of cities all over the world at all times of day and night, almost always by myself. However, if the location is a little dodgy, I will look for groups of other people who are going in my direction (or towards a more populated area) and I will stay sort of close to them, without giving them the impression that I am following them.If you don't wear outwardly branded American clothing and flashy items its going to be difficult to pick up non pros.
I have one posted in the MED Hotel thread attached to my review of the hotel Botero, but the website reduces the size, if it is hard to read, PM me a email and I will send you the full size one. Here it is again.
Safest hours are between 10 a and 4 p, later it gets the more drunk locals you get.
On my map the top left block is Raudal, less girls but usually hotter ones, 50-80 k, lower left is the block behind the VeraCruz church, it is the busiest one, girls start at 30 k and will be very close to a short term hotel they will take you too. If they look young make sure you card them, the young ones hang out there on the corner, "Cedula por favor" (ID) Make sure they are 18+.
Lower right around Bolivar park ignore, mostly not females.Can you please email me the full size map, [Email address deleted by Admin]
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If you don't wear outwardly branded American clothing and flashy items its going to be difficult to pick up non pros.You're being facetious, right? LOL.
My redhead sweetie I met on SeekingArrangements whose number I have given to a few of you is no longer a redhead. Not looking too bad in black though:
A short trip report of my recent trip to Medellin.
I stayed at Sites Hotel in Patio Bonito because my last stay there was great. No chica fees, convenient location. The chica entry policy of the hotel has changed since last year and now there is a chica fees of approx. 23 usd. Will scout for another hotel for my next trip.
I have built up some contacts from my last stay at the Mansion in 2016 and reached out to them. FB names of some of the chicas. Jessica Yurany, Valen Chica, Jessenia Guttierez, Monita Moreno. I love 3 somes, so I asked the girls to bring along a amiga. All the sessions were good except the one -on-one with Monita. She arrived 2 hours late and while we were warming up in bed I noticed blood stains on the sheet. Stopped in my tracks and let her go.
Another FB amiga Valentina Mejia was keen to session but I declined because she did not have a cedula. She messaged me many times assuring me that she was 18+ but I did not take a chance. She suggested a place, Dell Poblado cabana (that did not require a cedula for entry. But I did not take on the offer, did not want to take the risk. I saw her in Parque Llares during a stroll but I did not approach her. May meet her in future if she gets a cedula.
I sessioned at Tantra once, the place is good but tough to locate. My taxi driver and I walked up and down the street knocking on doors until a lady pointed the house. She said that it is called Casa China because it has a Chinese style roof. 3 chicas were available around 12 noon. I fancied a bespectacled & tattooed hottie but I asked the manager for a recommendation. He recommended a 30+ dirty blonde, forgot her name. 130 K for a session. After a shower the chica asked me what I like to do in the cama. I told her that kissing turns me on. She responded that it is 50 K extra for DFK. I pretended not to understand. She tried to explain twice and I said no entiendo. She gave up and started with a massage. Good massage. Not hard, not too soft. The sexo session was great, the mirror in the room made it much more exciting. I was relaxing in the lounge after the session and noticed that more chicas were available, some were 8+. Will definitely visit Tantra during my next trip.
Rates: 200-225 K for my FB amigas + taxi (15-25 K) for 2-3 hours. Chupa sin condom with all chicas.
Medellin is one of my favorite locations. Great weather, beautiful & friendly chicas, value for money. And a great 3 some sexo location IMHO. Hope to visit Centro clubs during my next trip.
Stay safe.
JeraldoRivera
05-13-18, 09:36
Hello everybody!
First post in a while, my other account had to get erased as my wife discovered it and was threatening to leave a few years ago. Anyhow, if anybody has any recommendations for FB girls or UTR chicas I would appreciate. Please PM chica leads if you don't want to post on the open forum. I am fluent in Spanish and an experienced monger in Argentina, Brasil and Paraguay among other locales. Also, are you guys having good luck with the photoprepagos.com website? I am hoping its not filled with bait and switch or 90% fotoshop. Anyhow, those chicas look nice AF!
Can anyone provide info (website hopefully) on how / where to catch a bus out of Medellin? Specifically looking to go to Pereira and to Bucaramanga and to Cucuta. Looking for safety, comfort, and speed in that order!
Thanks in advance!Take the Metro to the Caribe station. It let's you out at terminal del norte. All the bus companies are right there. You can compare prices. It's also a small mall.
SonicBoom1
05-14-18, 03:53
A short trip report of my recent trip to Medellin.
I have built up some contacts from my last stay at the Mansion in 2016 and reached out to them. FB names of some of the chicas. Jessica Yurany, Valen Chica, Jessenia Guttierez, Monita Moreno. I love 3 somes, so I asked the girls to bring along a amiga. All the sessions were good except the one -on-one with Monita. She arrived 2 hours late and while we were warming up in bed I noticed blood stains on the sheet. Stopped in my tracks and let her go.
Stay safe.Thanks, how does one find girls on FB?
JeraldoRivera
05-14-18, 06:27
I had considered renting in that building last December. Yikes.That was a targeted hit on a local. I'm not saying MDE is or isn't safe cause I haven't been yet but we got plenty of that stuff going on across the US.
El Mechanico
05-14-18, 14:51
Thanks, how does one find girls on FB?What I did was create a seperate Fay-boo account and simply start friending some of the more popular chicas. Pucca Garcia, Lunita Ferrante (Queen of the Mansion girls) and the ones mentioned in earlier post. Once they accept you as a Fay-boo friend, search their Friends list for chicas that fit your taste / prototype. Some have their friends list blocked to where the public can't see it or even if you are Fb friends, you still can; t see the list. On these Fb pages just look at their Photos & a lot of times they will tag their friends in the pic & you can click on their names and then send them a frien request from thier page. It takes a while but after a year or so you will have a bevy of Fay-boo honies to choose from. Good Luck.
El Mechanico.
Black Page
05-14-18, 18:49
What I did was create a seperate Fay-boo account and simply start friending some of the more popular chicas. Pucca Garcia, Lunita Ferrante (Queen of the Mansion girls) and the ones mentioned in earlier post. Once they accept you as a Fay-boo friend, search their Friends list for chicas that fit your taste / prototype. Some have their friends list blocked to where the public can't see it or even if you are Fb friends, you still can; t see the list. On these Fb pages just look at their Photos & a lot of times they will tag their friends in the pic & you can click on their names and then send them a frien request from thier page. It takes a while but after a year or so you will have a bevy of Fay-boo honies to choose from. Good Luck.
El Mechanico.The interesting part is when one uses his main FB account, invites as friend one of those chicas, she accepts, she starts to browse the guy's FB friends' list, then sends friendship requests to all men, and quickly many of her girlfriends start doing the same. It's an avalanche process, hard to stop once launched. It can be entertaining.
My redhead sweetie I met on SeekingArrangements whose number I have given to a few of you is no longer a redhead. Not looking too bad in black though:Still sabrosa but the red was awesome.
Still sabrosa but the red was awesome.I don't know, I just saw her a few months ago and I don't remember her hair being that long, I asked her on FB if it was a wig and she said no, it was her hair but I suspect extensions.
Although it does look pretty long here. So. Hmmm. But I agree, the red was pretty hot.
Can you please email me the full size map,You will have to buy a $20 membership so you can PM me a email address.
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