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I'm kinda new to this Medellin website and I was wonder how reliable are the mileroticos.com and skokka.com websites?
Is there a lot of photoshopping and / or bait and switch?
If they don't have WhatsApp it hard to communicate, especially if you don't have International calling service.
Any help is appreciated!I've never used skokka but I've gotten successful hookups using photoprepagos.com and mileroticos.com. There's definitely fakes and photoshops but you can usually weed them out if you use common sense. Try googling their phone number. If they've been around awhile oftentimes you'll find a post on a review website where someone tried them out. If you find more of their ads see if their photos are consistent. You can also run their photos through tineye.com and yandex. Ru and see what turns up. Only interact with girls that use Whatsapp. From my experience girls without it never respond to texts. Above all use your brain--if she looks like a supermodel and has a series of professionally produced photos there's no way in hell anyone of that caliber would polish your knob for a measly 50 k.
Retired 22
06-15-18, 02:27
I've never used skokka but I've gotten successful hookups using photoprepagos.com and mileroticos.com. There's definitely fakes and photoshops but you can usually weed them out if you use common sense. Try googling their phone number. If they've been around awhile oftentimes you'll find a post on a review website where someone tried them out. If you find more of their ads see if their photos are consistent. You can also run their photos through tineye.com and yandex. Ru and see what turns up. Only interact with girls that use Whatsapp. From my experience girls without it never respond to texts. Above all use your brain--if she looks like a supermodel and has a series of professionally produced photos there's no way in hell anyone of that caliber would polish your knob for a measly 50 k.Thanks Talon I'll use your advice and see how it goes especially use the big head instead of the other head.
San Peter apartment suites on Calle 41 a, they are listed on a number of sites but I booked them through airbnb. They have a front desk like a hotel and will check the ID of every girl you bring back but they are girl friendly. While I was there I saw a handful of older unattractive dudes entering and leaving with girls far more younger and prettier (one looked like he was 70 and had a 20-year-old as arm candy! Their suites are pretty spacious and come with air conditioning and a fully stocked kitchen. Only downside was that sitting adjacent to Car. 70 there's a lot of city noise.
As an added bonus, their in-house restaurant makes a pretty decent burger, and you can even get it delivered to your door.I am glad you posted this. I have booked the same apartment building for my next trip in a couple of weeks. I typically stay in Poblado, but wanted a change of scenery. I'm always nervous about trying a new place, but this seems like a good choice.
World Travel 69
06-15-18, 14:48
I hope this is the latest:
Loutron Club Spa.
Calle 16 a Sur # 9 e-500. GPS: 610'59"and 7532'53"W Loma de los Balsos #1, 7 blocks up from the Y, on the right. It is across from the Campo de PaintBall Game Place on Tesoro above the los Balsos roundabout. Just down a little bit from the speed bump. They built a new wooden gate. It's a one lane driveway to the top. You cannot see the house from the street. It is about a half mile higher up the road from the old location. 10-16 Masajistas. Prices: Cover 10 k, Beer 10 k, Masajistas 130 k 20 min. 160 k 30 min. 210 k hour. 250 k 90 min. Tel: 4444-204- 317 41 74 / Cell: 301 642 45 15,4444-42 04,618 05 92,618 05 96, Cell 313-230-27 56. Hours: Monday to Thursday Noon to 11 pm, Friday to Saturday Noon to 9 pm. http://loutron.co/medellin/ http://wikimapia.org/24844270/Loutron.
I've been to this high end casa like 5 years ago and even though I didn't partake, the classy and elegant atmosphere was eye opening for me as a newbie. I'm taking a friend of mine who's never been to MDE to check out the place for nostalgia purposes, I think they moved location and it's a tough spot to locate if I remember correctly. Does anyone have the current address of this place? Thanks!
RiceRocket99
06-15-18, 18:14
Thanks for the much needed never expected thorough info! I remember the taxi got lost couple times going to their older location, but the drive through the gate up the hill passing through security was something straight from a movie or a popular Netflix series haha.
I hope this is the latest:
Loutron Club Spa.
Calle 16 a Sur # 9 e-500. GPS: 610'59"and 7532'53"W Loma de los Balsos #1, 7 blocks up from the Y, on the right. It is across from the Campo de PaintBall Game Place on Tesoro above the los Balsos roundabout. Just down a little bit from the speed bump. They built a new wooden gate. It's a one lane driveway to the top. You cannot see the house from the street. It is about a half mile higher up the road from the old location. 10-16 Masajistas. Prices: Cover 10 k, Beer 10 k, Masajistas 130 k 20 min. 160 k 30 min. 210 k hour. 250 k 90 min. Tel: 4444-204- 317 41 74 / Cell: 301 642 45 15,4444-42 04,618 05 92,618 05 96, Cell 313-230-27 56. Hours: Monday to Thursday Noon to 11 pm, Friday to Saturday Noon to 9 pm. http://loutron.co/medellin/ http://wikimapia.org/24844270/Loutron.
I am glad you posted this. I have booked the same apartment building for my next trip in a couple of weeks. I typically stay in Poblado, but wanted a change of scenery. I'm always nervous about trying a new place, but this seems like a good choice.My first trip to Medellin I stayed in Poblado because I heard all the action was centered around Parque Lleras. Ironically, I never picked up a streetwalker there and have exclusively used casas, escorts, and girls I met on social media. I'ts good place for beginners, relatively safe and touristy, but after awhile like you said one starts to crave a change of scenery. Laureles and Envigado are good neighborhoods I've tried out, both upscale and centrally located so you pay less on taxis taking girls to and from your bachelor pad.
I am planning on taking a trip out there in either late October or early November. With this in mind I started a mongering FB profile. I want to thank Tasss who wrote a great report on how to do that way back in December of last year. In case anyone wants to look at it it's report #24342. (sorry don't really know how to link it).
So if you follow his advice it is super easy to build up a great friend network. In about 2 weeks I am currently at 95 friends and counting. Obviously not everyone will respond but as Tasss said once you have a few they start pouring in. Once the friends start coming in girls will start waving Hello, at you on messenger. You also will get talk on messenger from your comments that you place on their pictures or stories. All of them had said they will see me when I come down. As was mentioned it will help you build your friend network to also friend a couple of like minded guys. I did have a weird thing come up though. Facebook wouldn't let me friend request a couple of girls saying something like "only friend request people you know". I was able to request them later after waiting a few hours.
From the American Airlines web site, this is news some of you can use. Check the last item and if you are 65 or older be sure to claim your tax refund within the time limit. Any questions, check the web site or call American Airlines:
Colombia Tourism Tax (JS) exemptions.
Airline crew on duty.
Colombian citizens with a valid passport, Colombian resident card or a naturalization certificate.
Military flights.
Diplomats.
Filipino overseas contract workers.
Involuntary rerouting due to technical difficulties, weather conditions or other valid reasons.
Personnel from international organizations created through multilateral agreements to which Colombia has adhered.
Senior passengers over 65 years' old.
Black Page
06-17-18, 21:09
Believe it or not, in maybe 10 years I have been going to Medellin (sparsely say from multiple visits in one year to 2 years without going) FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME I went looking Hotel M (a.k.a. Mansion) from outside. I was sipping my coffee at Juan Valdez and I found out by chance that the most famous place in ISG was just one block from me, besides having a Pokemon Go gym almost right in front (it could be a plus for someone). So, I thought why not to go there and see it, at long last?
Yes, it looks a very good place! :p
I also understood that all the gringoes that I see at Juan Valdez, in particular those showing the photo of the drink they want to order on their cell phone, because they seem unable to order it in the standard way, come straight from there. Today I have seen at least two of them (two very nice and well-mannered guys, I must say) sipping their coffee and then going back to their place up the street. Hello, if you read this! :)
Black Page
06-17-18, 21:24
Yesterday I had my tough time fighting against Ley Seca. Why the Hell South American countries should close bars and forbid alcohol for 1+ day (3 days in Ecuador), because the day after there are elections, is out of my understanding, but that's out of topic. And not only alcohol. Today I missed the ride on bicycle on the Av. Poblado that I have been looking forward for a long time, because ALSO the Ciclovia is banned by elections. WTF!
By the way, I hit with surgical precision both dates of elections. At the end of May I was in Cartagena, and it has been the most lonely Saturday I ever remember there (just few desperate ugly girls at Reloy). Today, I am here in Medellin. I did not have the freedom to choose the dates of my travels, but I precisely hit both elections.
At NAME-REMOVED (Steak House on Av. De Las Palmas, I don't want to put the restaurant in trouble), I wanted a beer to accompany the steak, and two very embarrassed waiters had to tell me that no beer was allowed because of the Ley Seca. Then what, I replied?
- We can serve only soft drinks, wine and sangria.
- WTF! Isn't wine an alcoholic drink?
- Yes, but the Gerente decided that. No beer, only wine.
- This is not logical! Can I have beer then?
- If you want, we have Aguila Zero, with no alcohol.
- NO! Do you have Wine Zero, without alcohol?
- Not really. Sorry, this is not our fault. It's the Gerente. We can serve you wine, but not beer.
- Well, I am going to call Police, reporting that here they serve ILLEGAL drinks! Wine is not allowed, as well as beer.
I said that laughing, but the response was immediate:
- OW NO! We will give you a beer, but in glass without bottle!
The steak was very good, the beer cold, the service excellent, the waiters so nice with me. What to ask more?
ColombiaLover
06-17-18, 21:40
Ahh. The logic of the Paisas! Got to love them.
And the law is so unevenly enforced. I can imagine La Cueva was serving, because they grease up the cops. And my chica friends tell me that it's not that hard to find someone to sell you alcohol in the barrios. It's only the legit places that seem to suffer. I was in Laureles for the election in May, and Saturday night it was a ghost town on La 70.
Yesterday I had my tough time fighting against Ley Seca. Why the Hell South American countries should close bars and forbid alcohol for 1+ day (3 days in Ecuador), because the day after there are elections, is out of my understanding, but that's out of topic. And not only alcohol. Today I missed the ride on bicycle on the Av. Poblado that I have been looking forward for a long time, because ALSO the Ciclovia is banned by elections. WTF!
By the way, I hit with surgical precision both dates of elections. At the end of May I was in Cartagena, and it has been the most lonely Saturday I ever remember there (just few desperate ugly girls at Reloy). Today, I am here in Medellin. I did not have the freedom to choose the dates of my travels, but I precisely hit both elections.
At NAME-REMOVED (Steak House on Av. De Las Palmas, I don't want to put the restaurant in trouble), I wanted a beer to accompany the steak, and two very embarrassed waiters had to tell me that no beer was allowed because of the Ley Seca. Then what, I replied?
- We can serve only soft drinks, wine and sangria.
- WTF! Isn't wine an alcoholic drink?
- Yes, but the Gerente decided that. No beer, only wine.
- This is not logical! Can I have beer then?
- If you want, we have Aguila Zero, with no alcohol.
- NO! Do you have Wine Zero, without alcohol?
- Not really. Sorry, this is not our fault. It's the Gerente. We can serve you wine, but not beer.
- Well, I am going to call Police, reporting that here they serve ILLEGAL drinks! Wine is not allowed, as well as beer.
I said that laughing, but the response was immediate:
- OW NO! We will give you a beer, but in glass without bottle!
The steak was very good, the beer cold, the service excellent, the waiters so nice with me. What to ask more?
Black Page
06-17-18, 21:40
Because of Ley Seca, there were not many options available yesterday night.
I was in the mood of doing something different, so I went to Dreams SW, that is one of the very few swinger clubs in Medellin. Those who are used to these places in Europe (big cities can have 50+ clubs, from small to big ones with even 200+ persons inside on a weekend night) will find the place very disappointing, but I like the underground atmosphere of the small place with naughty Colombians.
Only couples admitted on Saturday, but the "receptionist" called a girl to accompany me (200 k). She was so nice! I did not expect such a nice person. To be honest, I was prepared to greet some ultra hard-core pro, someone you would not like to take out to dinner because of the public shame, but she was really a nice girl. She works there (dance etc.) and she is anything but a beginner on the scene, but she really behaved as she was my girlfriend. Intelligent in understanding what to do and what to not do, sensitive, and of course without inhibitions.
There were about 7-8 couples, some genuine some others like us. Some very nice girls and guys, mixed with ugly and average. Yes, normal people. We worked hard to corrupt a girl with her man, who looked very skeptical and not really involved in the game. After two hours, drinks and light teasing on the couch, I saw her in a group of 6, where she and the other two girls were finding the way to masturbate each other (please note: 6 hands for 3 pussies, do the math). Mission accomplished.
Of course we joined and we had our share. That was until a 5th couple came, who behaved like people going to the butcher and serving meat to themselves. The lady was a 40+ yo, fat, who started to kiss passionately and and eat the breast of my girl. Her man moved soon his attention from her lady to the ass of my girl, and started to slap it. At that point, I whispered in the ear of my girl that we could leave the room, whenever she could feel unconfortable.
She said yes, let us leave, but suddenly the fat lady started to lick and suck - I'd say to EAT eagerly - the pussy lips of my girl. My girl could not talk anymore, because she opened her eyes wide for the surprise and could not refrain to moan. No simulation. The feeling of someone eating your pussy must be strong.
We left few minutes later, when the husband with his hard prickly beard wanted to do the same. NO THANKS, my girl told me with her eyes. I took her hand and I drove her to the pool.
Overall, one of my best nights in Medellin since quite a while (also because of the steak with beer).
Black Page
06-17-18, 22:21
To be honest, we could not call Colombians dumb because of Ley Seca and the (for me) inexplicable relation they establish between having elections and forbidding a beer with a burger.
In USA, the superdeveloped and most advanced World, they ask me to show a picture ID in the restaurants of airports (proven in JFK and ATL) if I want a beer to accompany a burger. Please note:
1) I am 50+ and it's been a long time that anyone does not take me as teen (except in USA).
2) In airports, there are no UMs going around alone without staff.
In this interesting country, for a teen it seems more difficult to have a beer than a gun at school. (Sadly).
QUE VIVA COLOMBIA!
Its a hotel which allowed some freelancers to come and hang out near swimming pool, lobby or their own small night club.Which would be the minimum budget for this experience (I understand that there are many additional expenses that can be added), but I am talking about the hotel and the escort. Thanks!
Black Page
06-21-18, 11:40
Believe it or not, in Bogota in Chapinero I have seen a "Ley Seca Bar". One block from Pussy House.
Black Page
06-21-18, 11:43
This big photo is posted in front of the Juan Valdez at Oviedo Mall. It is supposed to advertise a fashion brand, but I am sure that this girl, dressed in that way, in that location, and with that caption underneath, will make all ISG members to wonder something different.
(Why the photo does not show up with preview??)
Hola amigos, I've been lurking here at the Medellin thread for some time now, lots of good info! So I finally pulled the trigger and booked a nice 2 bedroom apartment in El Poblado, Bosques de Provinza Medellin Cra 36. I will be there in late July.
I need a little help here, will my AT&T iPhone work there in Medellin?
Thanks.
...but I am sure that this girl, dressed in that way, in that location, and with that caption underneath, will make all ISG members to wonder something different.
(Why the photo does not show up with preview??)Sorry, but I failed to see your insinuation in that pic, even after reading your message. OTOH, I have seen many fashion posters in Medellin, with stronger sexual suggestions than this particular one.
Black Page
06-21-18, 17:57
I need a little help here, will my AT&T iPhone work there in Medellin?1) WHY NOT? This is not the Borneo jungle.
2) WHY DO YOU NEED IT? Please be aware of roaming charges.
What I do is the following (others will advise differently, especially those who have a plan including roaming for a small fee):
1) I keep my phone with its European SIM card. I do not answer calls, but I call back using WeChatOut (I am always online via wifi, see below) instead of SkypeOut, which I find cumbersome.
2) I have a local SIM card of Movistar, which never expires apparently. I put it in a cheap GSM phone and I just top it up 20k COP for a week of local calls.
Why the cheap phone? For when I go to places where I don't want to have expensive items with me.
3) I have a 4G Mobile WIFI modem. I buy a Claro SIM card with a 500MB data plan, which costs about 50k total. Last time, I topped up extra 50k, to buy a 2GB data plan lasting one month. With this modem, I have my portable wifi always with me. I use my regular phone with its European SIM, but online connected to the portable wifi. Perfect.
Black Page
06-21-18, 18:02
Sorry, but I failed to see your insinuation in that pic, even after reading your message. OTOH, I have seen many fashion posters in Medellin, with stronger sexual suggestions than this particular one.Maybe because in my country, but not in yours, there are African SWs soliciting men in dilapidated country areas as the one I see in the background of that photo. My friends who saw the photo laughed a lot as well.
P.S.: besides everything, I don't think that those fashion items are classy, but this is objectionable. :p
I need a little help here, will my AT&T iPhone work there in Medellin?
I've been to Colombia twice and had no problem using my AT&T phone. However, my company has my phone set up for international roaming and AT&T charges $10/ day when you use it. If my company wasn't paying for this anyway, I'd buy a local SIM and use that.
Look into dual SIM phones. They are very convenient for anyone who travels internationally on a regular basis. You must unlock the phone.
1) WHY NOT? This is not the Borneo jungle.
2) WHY DO YOU NEED IT? Please be aware of roaming charges.
What I do is the following (others will advise differently, especially those who have a plan including roaming for a small fee):
1) I keep my phone with its European SIM card. I do not answer calls, but I call back using WeChatOut (I am always online via wifi, see below) instead of SkypeOut, which I find cumbersome.
2) I have a local SIM card of Movistar, which never expires apparently. I put it in a cheap GSM phone and I just top it up 20k COP for a week of local calls.
Why the cheap phone? For when I go to places where I don't want to have expensive items with me..
I've been to Colombia twice and had no problem using my AT&T phone. However, my company has my phone set up for international roaming and AT&T charges $10/ day when you use it. If my company wasn't paying for this anyway, I'd buy a local SIM and use that.Thanks KelJo, I have international roaming already, so I should be good to go.
Black Page
06-22-18, 18:26
Look into dual SIM phones. They are very convenient for anyone who travels internationally on a regular basis. You must unlock the phone.Yes, good point, but I am in love with my S7 Edge phone and no way I would change it unless I lose it. Basically, for me changing a phone or a computer, having to reinstall everything or reconfigure all options to make it looking exactly the same as the one I am used to, is a big trouble and try to avoid that.
I found this MIFI a very good solution to keep my phone AS IT IS still being online using a local card.
PS: Admin will reprimand us because we chit-chat about phones instead of talking about pussy, but you all may notice that my report about pussy fell into silence (of course, comment what?), but a post about a SIM card wakes up lots of reactions.
Eszpresszo
06-23-18, 01:07
Look into dual SIM phones. They are very convenient for anyone who travels internationally on a regular basis. You must unlock the phone.Excuse me but who actually sells a "locked" phone with dual SIMs, when it is obviously for use with two different service providers? That's the who purpose of dual SIM phones, which is why any dual SIM GSM phone you see will be unlocked from the factory.
Yes, you are right, dual SIM phones are sold unlocked. You must unlock single SIM phones. Excuse me for not being clear.
Back to pussy, the old standby chicas puntocom and its upstairs neighbor are having a bit of a staffing slump in recent weeks. If anybody notices a change please let us know. Luna Lunera is asking 150 k these days.
Excuse me but who actually sells a "locked" phone with dual SIMs, when it is obviously for use with two different service providers? That's the who purpose of dual SIM phones, which is why any dual SIM GSM phone you see will be unlocked from the factory.
Hola amigos, I've been lurking here at the Medellin thread for some time now, lots of good info! So I finally pulled the trigger and booked a nice 2 bedroom apartment in El Poblado, Bosques de Provinza Medellin Cra 36. I will be there in late July.
I need a little help here, will my AT&T iPhone work there in Medellin?
Thanks.Yes, but roaming charges are high. There is a $10/ day international roaming that you should get, they charge you that even if you only make 1 call or text. I didn't know this and my Colombian cell broke, so I was forced to use my ATT phone for 2 days. I made about 4 short phone calls and a few texts, and paid $90. US carriers rip you off even more by charging for outgoing and incoming calls.
Get a unlocked GSM phone. Buy a local sim card (Tigo, Claro, Moviestar) and put 5000 COP (less than $2) for each day of your stay. You will have enough voice and data for 1/10th the cost.
Black Page
06-23-18, 10:07
21:00
I enter the same restaurant NAME-REMOVED (Steak House on Av. De Las Palmas) mentioned at http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2193428&viewfull=1#post2193428.
Waiters come to me smiling: "A beer sir?" "No, I want juice".
Big consternation, open arms, then solved by my smile "Of course I want beer. I was just joking!".
Good steak, good service.
24:00
Most Swinger Clubs are open to single men on Monday. I opt for Club Lily, after having called others and having heard there is little people. At Lily, I find not less than a dozen of couples! Giggle!
I enter the jacuzzi, and a chubby mulata starts playing with my dick after 5 minutes of conversation.
I keep my enthusiasm low, because I think she must be paid by the owner (there is a dancer who entertains single men in a gangbang, attraction of that night), but I quickly discover she's NOT!
She went there accompanied by a friend, who however is around chasing other girls. She's bored as hell, and she's happy to have found my dick to keep her entertained.
We play half an hour in the pool, then we move to the Turco. She was just waiting a place to suck it. She's good as few ones at it!
We spend two hours fucking around the turco, the rooms, even the pool.
2:00
Time to leave. The place is closing. I propose them to go to Centro for some bar hopping, but at 2:00 all bars close by police order.
He leaves her in my hands and goes home.
We ask the taxi to take us to some amanecero. We go somewhere near the Hospital metro station, 2 stations after Prado. The area is so lonely. What a contrast with theh busy hours in the day.
The amanecero is a small dilapidated bar, hidden behind a closed door guarded by a couple of guys, at the side of "Grotta de Hierro", a seedy love hotel. I love these clandestine places.
Few people, some drunk men, some old ladies to entertain customers, me and her with our beers sitting at a table with ladies coming to chat with us.
Music is good though. We can also dance, the two of us.
She shows me her carnet. She's a nurse! Gosh I wish she had her uniform with her.
3:00
We walk to a nearby cheap love hotel. I proceed to fuck directly her ass, without asking "May I?"
4:00
I come. She sucks my ball dry and slurps till the last drop. Good girl.
I am dead, deprived of all energies and I can't wait to go sleep.
By the way, I am expected to take a taxi to airport at 9:00, if I don't want to miss my flight.
The unexpected problem comes then. She goes to shower and she tells me "Are you ready or you need 10 minutes? I want a second turn".
GOSH! I am dead. I am 50+, yes!
I frankly tell her that it's out of question that I can do it again now, I am a single-shoot guy, I am dead now after hours of sex under multiple facets, and I must go to my hotel because I have a taxi to take in few hours.
She does not want to hear any excuse. She proceeds to suck my flaccid dick for a few minutes without listening my prays. She gets some reaction, but no more than that.
4:30
We say bye. I give her 50 k for her taxi.
She tells me that next time she can even bring friends.
She's LOVELY!
5:00
I enter my bed in my hotel at Oviedo. WOW WHAT A NIGHT!
PepolesBuddy
06-23-18, 14:25
21:00
Most Swinger Clubs are open to single men on Monday. I opt for Club Lily, after having called others and having heard there is little people. At Lily, I find not less than a dozen of couples! Giggle!Thanks for your report. Please educate me because I have no experience in swing clubs. What are the top 3 swing clubs in Medellin? And it seems that every club has pros that they call? How does that work and how much is that usually? How much are the entrance fees? Any other tips advice I would appreciate it.
Thanks!
You can get a dual SIM version S7, save your configuration and settings of your current phone and transfer almost exactly as it is to the new phone. You could keep the mifi for home use and you would have a WiFi hot spot in your pocket wherever you need it.
Back to girls, the stream of new Venezuelans arriving has not slowed down. It's a rare Centro casa that does not have a few at least on any given day.
Yes, good point, but I am in love with my S7 Edge phone and no way I would change it unless I lose it. Basically, for me changing a phone or a computer, having to reinstall everything or reconfigure all options to make it looking exactly the same as the one I am used to, is a big trouble and try to avoid that.
I found this MIFI a very good solution to keep my phone AS IT IS still being online using a local card.
PS: Admin will reprimand us because we chit-chat about phones instead of talking about pussy, but you all may notice that my report about pussy fell into silence (of course, comment what?), but a post about a SIM card wakes up lots of reactions.
The Tall Man
06-23-18, 16:49
21:00
I enter the same restaurant NAME-REMOVED (Steak House on Av. De Las Palmas) mentioned at http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2193428&viewfull=1#post2193428.
Waiters come to me smiling: "A beer sir?" "No, I want juice".
Big consternation, open arms, then solved by my smile "Of course I want beer. I was just joking!".
Good steak, good service.
24:00
Most Swinger Clubs are open to single men on Monday. I opt for Club Lily, after having called others and having heard there is little people. At Lily, I find not less than a dozen of couples! Giggle!
I enter the jacuzzi, and a chubby mulata starts playing with my dick after 5 minutes of conversation.
I keep my enthusiasm low, because I think she must be paid by the owner (there is a dancer who entertains single men in a gangbang, attraction of that night), but I quickly discover she's NOT!
She went there accompanied by a friend, who however is around chasing other girls. She's bored as hell, and she's happy to have found my dick to keep her entertained.
We play half an hour in the pool, then we move to the Turco. She was just waiting a place to suck it. She's good as few ones at it!
We spend two hours fucking around the turco, the rooms, even the pool.
2:00
Time to leave. The place is closing. I propose them to go to Centro for some bar hopping, but at 2:00 all bars close by police order.
He leaves her in my hands and goes home.
We ask the taxi to take us to some amanecero. We go somewhere near the Hospital metro station, 2 stations after Prado. The area is so lonely. What a contrast with theh busy hours in the day.
The amanecero is a small dilapidated bar, hidden behind a closed door guarded by a couple of guys, at the side of "Grotta de Hierro", a seedy love hotel. I love these clandestine places.
Few people, some drunk men, some old ladies to entertain customers, me and her with our beers sitting at a table with ladies coming to chat with us.
Music is good though. We can also dance, the two of us.
She shows me her carnet. She's a nurse! Gosh I wish she had her uniform with her.
3:00
We walk to a nearby cheap love hotel. I proceed to fuck directly her ass, without asking "May I?"
4:00
I come. She sucks my ball dry and slurps till the last drop. Good girl.
I am dead, deprived of all energies and I can't wait to go sleep.
By the way, I am expected to take a taxi to airport at 9:00, if I don't want to miss my flight.
The unexpected problem comes then. She goes to shower and she tells me "Are you ready or you need 10 minutes? I want a second turn".
GOSH! I am dead. I am 50+, yes!
I frankly tell her that it's out of question that I can do it again now, I am a single-shoot guy, I am dead now after hours of sex under multiple facets, and I must go to my hotel because I have a taxi to take in few hours.
She does not want to hear any excuse. She proceeds to suck my flaccid dick for a few minutes without listening my prays. She gets some reaction, but no more than that.
4:30
We say bye. I give her 50 k for her taxi.
She tells me that next time she can even bring friends.
She's LOVELY!
5:00
I enter my bed in my hotel at Oviedo. WOW WHAT A NIGHT!A great night, you lucky man! BTW me too as a single-shot guy, 50+ I have been in the same situation and will be again, heck maybe even tonight in centro.
TTM.
Yes, but roaming charges are high. There is a $10/ day international roaming that you should get, they charge you that even if you only make 1 call or text. I didn't know this and my Colombian cell broke, so I was forced to use my ATT phone for 2 days. I made about 4 short phone calls and a few texts, and paid $90. US carriers rip you off even more by charging for outgoing and incoming calls.
Get a unlocked GSM phone. Buy a local sim card (Tigo, Claro, Moviestar) and put 5000 COP (less than $2) for each day of your stay. You will have enough voice and data for 1/10th the cost.Thanks Queens!
MedellinGringo
06-23-18, 17:12
Which would be the minimum budget for this experience (I understand that there are many additional expenses that can be added), but I am talking about the hotel and the escort. Thanks!The rooms at the mansion will run you anywhere between 75 and 100 bucks a night depending on the room.
The chicas will charge $55 for short time and about $110 for "todo la noche" at the current exchange rate.
Most chicas are 6 and 7's with an occasional 8 showing up mostly at night. GFE is the norm without an up sell for BBBJ.
Nice place to meet girls on the fly while still seeing other women you have lined up.
Black Page
06-23-18, 18:57
A great night, you lucky man! BTW me too as a single-shot guy, 50+ I have been in the same situation and will be again, heck maybe even tonight in centro.TTM.Hey, for me "single-shot guy" means one who likes to entertain himself and possibly the lady for HOURS, concluding with a majestic waterfall, rather than having many insignificant micro-shots one after the other like a rabbit <g .
Black Page
06-23-18, 21:08
Thanks for your report. Please educate me because I have no experience in swing clubs. What are the top 3 swing clubs in Medellin? And it seems that every club has pros that they call? How does that work and how much is that usually? How much are the entrance fees? Any other tips advice I would appreciate it.
Thanks!I would not advise to go, if you never went before to one in your country. Otherwise, you add the novelty of the place (do you know how to behave?) to the novelty of the country (is Colombia the same as your country?) and you increase the probability to feel like a fish in a sand desert.
In particular, I am skeptical because you ask "How does that work". If you need to ask, don't go.
Personally, I have NEVER met any single foreigner in Medellin or Bogota clubs. They are small, they are for locals, and only a small fraction of percentage of locals would consider to go there.
However, swinger clubs in Bogota and Medellin have been widely treated in ISG. Use the "Search" function and explore.
I have been in just 3 clubs in Medellin (those mentioned in ISG), but the girl I met last Monday told me there are at least four more, and according to her opinion the best is not one of the three I know. She gave me some names and I cannot wait to explore, next time I will be there.
She even told me there is one in Cartagena, attended by locals! This sounds very odd and unprobable to me, as I don't think costenhos are very advanced in this, but she seems trustable to me.
A real swinger club should NOT have pros there, but in some club, on some nights (gangbang nights), I have seen they hired a dancer and, after dancing, she was available on a central sofa to everyone around (all covered including BJ, as obvious). I never took part to it.
Some other nights, there were dancers, but they were not joining any sexual activity. Just sex dancing on the pole.
I have some experience of swinger clubs in Europe and in Colombia they are really different. While a single male in Europe pays 150-200 EUR as admittance fee, Colombia is CHEAP (from 100k down to 30k). But also the facilities are significantly cheaper and run down. In addition, there are no large clubs as in Europe, where some can have up to 100 couples on a Saturday night.
Overall, Colombians are not so pervert as Europeans. They are more conservative. Many women will go around with breast covered. In addition, most Colombians do not really swing. I cannot imagine a local macho happy to see his real wife fondled by someone else, even worse seeing her sucking other dicks. Real couples will play with other couples, but without exchanging partners. I have seen rarely the cuckold thing. Those couples who are open to exchange are most commonly not couples in the real life, but fuck-friends, or the man paid the girl to be accompanied there.
HappyButLookin
06-23-18, 22:30
And for someone experienced at this in the US but with just a bit of Spanish?
I would not advise to go, if you never went before to one in your country. Otherwise, you add the novelty of the place (do you know how to behave?) to the novelty of the country (is Colombia the same as your country?) and you increase the probability to feel like a fish in a sand desert.
In particular, I am skeptical because you ask "How does that work". If you need to ask, don't go.
Personally, I have NEVER met any single foreigner in Medellin or Bogota clubs. They are small, they are for locals, and only a small fraction of percentage of locals would consider to go there.
However, swinger clubs in Bogota and Medellin have been widely treated in ISG. Use the "Search" function and explore.
I have been in just 3 clubs in Medellin (those mentioned in ISG), but the girl I met last Monday told me there are at least four more, and according to her opinion the best is not one of the three I know. She gave me some names and I cannot wait to explore, next time I will be there.
She even told me there is one in Cartagena, attended by locals! This sounds very odd and unprobable to me, as I don't think costenhos are very advanced in this, but she seems trustable to me.
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My opinion is all those number are extremely high for Medellin. I'm told there are many English speaking people among the clientele, employees, and owners.
The rooms at the mansion will run you anywhere between 75 and 100 bucks a night depending on the room.
The chicas will charge $55 for short time and about $110 for "todo la noche" at the current exchange rate.
Most chicas are 6 and 7's with an occasional 8 showing up mostly at night. GFE is the norm without an up sell for BBBJ.
Nice place to meet girls on the fly while still seeing other women you have lined up.
MedellinGringo
06-24-18, 06:18
My opinion is all those number are extremely high for Medellin. I'm told there are many English speaking people among the clientele, employees, and owners.The price is relatively high for someone that has the time to find hotter girls that will provide a very good girlfriend experience. But it is as close to a guaranteed good time as you can get.
Like I have said before. The Mansion is the first place a newbie should go when he gets to Medellin and the last place a guy who lives in Medellin full time should go.
Nothing beats finding hot chicks on your own and negotiating some kind of exclusive agreement. Forget the GFE. You can get the hot wife experience where a hot chick will live with you for weeks or months here for a fraction of what a Mansion chick would cost you.
But for guys just showing up for a week or so the Mansion chicks are as good as it gets for providing a GFE IMHO.
Touch down in Medellíand around 1 pm. Caught an Uber from the airport cost 50 k. Met him in the airport to avoid his fears of the taxi mafia. I usually try to stay in centro because it's close to where I want to be. Never stayed in Poblado or hobbied there, maybe I will see what all the fuss is about on day. Drop my bags of took a shower and head across the street to eat. Typical Colombian almuerzo with carne de res, rice, beans, eggs, papa fritas, sancocho and jugo de lujo. All for 12 k.
After lunch I went to New Life. About 10 girls available. Most I have seen before but a few I haven't. I'm always on the search for a nice ass. Didn't see one here. I then walked down to Zandalays hoping a big booty Paisas was still there but to my dismay she must no longer work there. Another place where the world cup theme was present. All the girls had on bikini like Colombian flag inspired clothes. They actually all looked pretty sexy in them. Next, I want to Chicas con Punto because I usually find a big ass there. And sure enough I did. The Host always remembers me because I once told her and her husband I wanted to session with her not know that was her husband. LOL. He was cool about it. Anyway, I selected 23 year Paisa Vanessa. I could see her rounded hips walking to me. I knew she had a big butt. So I booked her and was not disappointed. Super soft skin. A natural fat ass, a rarity here. The pussy was dripping wet and also felt satin soft inside. Enjoyed myself very much. 42 k for 30 minutes.
Fully satisfied but still curious, I walked down to Calle 50 to see what the street scene was looking like. Nothing of note there. When I first came to Medellin, I could always find a few that intrigued me. It seems no longer be the case. I decided to walk back to the apartment and remember I forgot a casa. I stopped by Amigas Sexi. And I spotted a few I would have sessioned with. Could definitely see if the 9-10 girls there were there, about 4-5 were Venezuelan. So I mentally booked this one girl with a fat ass, Tatiana, to come back tomorrow and session with. Got back to the apartment and rested up until night time.
Headed back out at around 11:30 pm. Took an Uber straight to Barra Ejecutiva. There were some good looking women in here tonight and it wasn't packed with dudes. When I first walked in a girl jumped in my way to get my attention. I was trying to see all the girls and dismissed her. Bad decision by me because she had the nice ass in there and I didn't realize until it was too late. She was always booked that night LOL. Anyway, sat down peeped the scene. Picked another fat ass calenas named Manuela. For some reason she wouldn't tell me her age. But she had the best pussy of the trip. I could have came in like 2 minutes but I soldier through. Her ass had to be fake but felt so real. 70 k for 30 minutes well spent. After that, I wanted to see what the other clubs offered. I went into Maracaibo next door. I never sessioned here because the talent is usually better at Barra but there were some decent looking women in there. I kept it moving. I walked down to Conejitas. About 8 girls there. Nothing of note. Then I walked up to Yakuzas. About 6 girls available. I never find anything I like here because they look too young to me. But I will say usually the host and the girls are so nice, its worth the look. One of the guys told me tell him which type of girl I like and he will bring her to my hotel. I passed but appreciated the gesture. It started to rain heavier so I walked back to Barra Ejecutiva to call and Uber. Seemed like no Uber wanted to come down there so I stay inside and watch the girls. Then I saw this tall, ultra thick, humongous ass women with a nerdy look because of her glasses. So I was just curious how much for a session. She was so nice had girl next door vibe so I said what the hell let's go. This girl was the best performer of the trip so far. She really love to fuck. She pulled ice out from I don't know where and sucked my dick with it. While I'm fucking her, she asked me to fuck her ass which has never happened to me in Colombia more of a Brazilian behavior. So I was like claro que sí LOL. I fucked the shit out of that fat ass no pun intended LOL. Really good session for 80 k but I tipped her well for that experience.
So, I went back into the hallway to wait for an Uber. And like 5 different girls kept on trying to get me to fuck. But I was done for the day. Finally my Uber arrived and I went home and slept like a satisfied man thanks to the great ass day in Medellin.
Mr Enternational
06-24-18, 16:02
Finally my Uber arrived and I went home and slept like a satisfied man thanks to the great ass day in Medellin.Thanks for blessing us with an excellent report. Do you get the apartment near downtown from airbnb or what?
I stayed at the Mansion for a couple of nights when I was a newbie and was curious about it.
It is a good place if you are unfamiliar with Medellin and have a limited understanding of spanish.
My room was nice, I believe it ran me about $100 for the night.
Advantages.
1) You will meet fellow mongers that you can share experiences with and notes.
2) English is spoken by staff and clientele.
3) Girls come to the mansion throughout the day and evening. There is a small bar area downstairs and a pool where girls can be found.
Disadvantages.
1) Prices for the girls tend to be on the high side. My understanding is girls will try to stick to 200 K for one pop. Some will want more pending on services. (I was able to negotiate for 2 pops for 180 K but I speak fluent spanish).
2) Breakfast is served but it is only at a certain time. Inconvient as most hotels have buffets for a period of time.
3) If you arrange to have car service to the airport they will add on a bit extra to the normal cost.
4) Difficult to negotiate as all the girls know each other and they will try to stick to the "mansion prices".
The price is relatively high for someone that has the time to find hotter girls that will provide a very good girlfriend experience. But it is as close to a guaranteed good time as you can get.
Like I have said before. The Mansion is the first place a newbie should go when he gets to Medellin and the last place a guy who lives in Medellin full time should go.
Nothing beats finding hot chicks on your own and negotiating some kind of exclusive agreement. Forget the GFE. You can get the hot wife experience where a hot chick will live with you for weeks or months here for a fraction of what a Mansion chick would cost you.
But for guys just showing up for a week or so the Mansion chicks are as good as it gets for providing a GFE IMHO.
Yes sir. Airbnb has served me nicely. I try to look for ones that are fairly modern, wifi and hot water LOL. And most of the places downtown are cheap. Some people may be concerned about safety but I know you are not LOL. It's safe here just have to be aware just like everyone else. And I appreciate all your reports I learned alot from you and the vets on this site. Just trying to do my part.
Thanks for blessing us with an excellent report. Do you get the apartment near downtown from airbnb or what?
The price is relatively high for someone that has the time to find hotter girls that will provide a very good girlfriend experience. But it is as close to a guaranteed good time as you can get.
Like I have said before. The Mansion is the first place a newbie should go when he gets to Medellin and the last place a guy who lives in Medellin full time should go.
Nothing beats finding hot chicks on your own and negotiating some kind of exclusive agreement. Forget the GFE. You can get the hot wife experience where a hot chick will live with you for weeks or months here for a fraction of what a Mansion chick would cost you.
But for guys just showing up for a week or so the Mansion chicks are as good as it gets for providing a GFE IMHO.Charging customers for the 19% tax that they then pocket was the deal breaker for me.
The Tall Man
06-25-18, 00:10
Touch down in Medelland around 1 pm. Caught an Uber from the airport cost 50 k. Met him in the airport to avoid his fears of the taxi mafia. I usually try to stay in centro because it's close to where I want to be. Never stayed in Poblado or hobbied there, maybe I will see what all the fuss is about on day. Drop my bags of took a shower and head across the street to eat. Typical Colombian almuerzo with carne de res, rice, beans, eggs, papa fritas, sancocho and jugo de lujo. All for 12 k.
After lunch I went to New Life. About 10 girls available. Most I have seen before but a few I haven't. I'm always on the search for a nice ass. Didn't see one here. I then walked down to Zandalays hoping a big booty Paisas was still there but to my dismay she must no longer work there. Another place where the world cup theme was present. All the girls had on bikini like Colombian flag inspired clothes. They actually all looked pretty sexy in them. Next, I want to Chicas con Punto because I usually find a big ass there. And sure enough I did. The Host always remembers me because I once told her and her husband I wanted to session with her not know that was her husband. LOL. He was cool about it. Anyway, I selected 23 year Paisa Vanessa. I could see her rounded hips walking to me. I knew she had a big butt. So I booked her and was not disappointed. Super soft skin. A natural fat ass, a rarity here. The pussy was dripping wet and also felt satin soft inside. Enjoyed myself very much. 42 k for 30 minutes.
Fully satisfied but still curious, I walked down to Calle 50 to see what the street scene was looking like. Nothing of note there. When I first came to Medellin, I could always find a few that intrigued me. It seems no longer be the case. I decided to walk back to the apartment and remember I forgot a casa. I stopped by Amigas Sexi. And I spotted a few I would have sessioned with. Could definitely see if the 9-10 girls there were there, about 4-5 were Venezuelan. So I mentally booked this one girl with a fat ass, Tatiana, to come back tomorrow and session with. Got back to the apartment and rested up until night time.
Headed back out at around 11:30 pm. Took an Uber straight to Barra Ejecutiva. There were some good looking women in here tonight and it wasn't packed with dudes. When I first walked in a girl jumped in my way to get my attention. I was trying to see all the girls and dismissed her. Bad decision by me because she had the nice ass in there and I didn't realize until it was too late. She was always booked that night LOL. Anyway, sat down peeped the scene. Picked another fat ass calenas named Manuela. For some reason she wouldn't tell me her age. But she had the best pussy of the trip. I could have came in like 2 minutes but I soldier through. Her ass had to be fake but felt so real. 70 k for 30 minutes well spent. After that, I wanted to see what the other clubs offered. I went into Maracaibo next door. I never sessioned here because the talent is usually better at Barra but there were some decent looking women in there. I kept it moving. I walked down to Conejitas. About 8 girls there. Nothing of note. Then I walked up to Yakuzas. About 6 girls available. I never find anything I like here because they look too young to me. But I will say usually the host and the girls are so nice, its worth the look. One of the guys told me tell him which type of girl I like and he will bring her to my hotel. I passed but appreciated the gesture. It started to rain heavier so I walked back to Barra Ejecutiva to call and Uber. Seemed like no Uber wanted to come down there so I stay inside and watch the girls. Then I saw this tall, ultra thick, humongous ass women with a nerdy look because of her glasses. So I was just curious how much for a session. She was so nice had girl next door vibe so I said what the hell let's go. This girl was the best performer of the trip so far. She really love to fuck. She pulled ice out from I don't know where and sucked my dick with it. While I'm fucking her, she asked me to fuck her ass which has never happened to me in Colombia more of a Brazilian behavior. So I was like claro que s LOL. I fucked the shit out of that fat ass no pun intended LOL. Really good session for 80 k but I tipped her well for that experience.
So, I went back into the hallway to wait for an Uber. And like 5 different girls kept on trying to get me to fuck. But I was done for the day. Finally my Uber arrived and I went home and slept like a satisfied man thanks to the great ass day in Medellin.Great run down and wow you touched down at 1 pm and had an afternoon and evening till the early morning hours packed with monger activities!
I have had more visits to Barra Ejecutive and next door Maricaibo this months long stay than ever before in my 5 years plus of medellin visits. Is it only me but to access the rooms at either of these 2 strip bars you need to have nerves of steel, as should a fire or other emergency occur when your back in those rooms you toast. Yes I have also took out girls from both of these clubs but I always want to check them out first before I make any longer term / extended stays.
The same here with New Life, the best ones I have sessioned with before, a few as almost 2 years ago, so nothing much new to keep my interest in returning.
Stay safe!
TTM.
ColombiaLover
06-25-18, 00:24
This can be an advantage or disadvantage. I have trimmed my stays at the Mansion / Castillo to once a year now. I travel to MDE monthly, but stay in an apartment the other times.
If you are new and IF you pick the right guy, you can learn a lot and get some referrals. But be careful. A lot of guys their talk a lot of shit about how great they are, how much they know about Medellin, how many chicas they have on a leash, etc. Boring. I remember listening to one guy try to "tell me how it was. " I let him talk. When he was finished telling me a bunch of inaccurate information, I asked him about his experience. He had been once before! Jejejeje I have been visiting Colombia for 12 years. When there was no Castillo and La Cueva was garage.
Also, if you are the kind of guy who doesn't like to go out and would rather pass the afternoon drinking on the pool deck, talking to other gringos and some chicas, this might be the place to go also.
I will be there for the July 1 party and am looking forward to getting some numbers and seeing some of the old regulars who I have known for a while. Now that I don't stay there often, I am not as familiar with the new crowd. We'll see how they are. Most of the guys that I knew well (and who helped me when I was less experienced) now stay in apartments. So I pretty much keep to myself, other than talking to the veterans. If there are any newbies around during the holiday weekend and you want to ask questions, I'm open to that. Just PM me. I certainly do not know everything, but I've been coming to Colombia for a long time to monger and I also have the perspective of being married to a Colombiana for 9 years (my ex-wife now).
P.S. - no matter how much experience you have, you can still learn. I get a lot of good information from this board.
Advantages.
1) You will meet fellow mongers that you can share experiences with and notes.
Manizales911
06-25-18, 00:45
Charging customers for the 19% tax that they then pocket was the deal breaker for me.They have been open a very long time walking a fine line between being a hotel and a wh0 reh0 use so I'm sure they are paying a hefty "tax" to someone or someones. But be that as it may, how do you know they don't pay legitimate taxes, are you their accountant, LOL?
Is Halloween the best time to go if you are staying at the Mansion? The YouTube vid of the party looks pretty good.
Nerves of steel is right. That circular tiny staircase through the men's urinal is definitely risky. But when your horny your mind isn't as clear as it should be. LOL. And new life is what it is. Mongering, in my opinion is hit or miss. That definitely goes for casas.
Great run down and wow you touched down at 1 pm and had an afternoon and evening till the early morning hours packed with monger activities!
I have had more visits to Barra Ejecutive and next door Maricaibo this months long stay than ever before in my 5 years plus of medellin visits. Is it only me but to access the rooms at either of these 2 strip bars you need to have nerves of steel, as should a fire or other emergency occur when your back in those rooms you toast. Yes I have also took out girls from both of these clubs but I always want to check them out first before I make any longer term / extended stays.
The same here with New Life, the best ones I have sessioned with before, a few as almost 2 years ago, so nothing much new to keep my interest in returning.
Stay safe!
TTM.
Charging customers for the 19% tax that they then pocket was the deal breaker for me.Plus:
-Charging 25% extra for credit card payments.
-Charging people for drinking their own liquor outside of your room (not sure if they are still doing this).
MedellinGringo
06-25-18, 16:42
Plus:
-Charging 25% extra for credit card payments.
-Charging people for drinking their own liquor outside of your room (not sure if they are still doing this).I pay cash to avoid the credit card fee. They accept dollars and or pesos.
Not much of a drinker so I can't say what their policy is on liquor brought in from outside.
But I do know you can meet up to 20 chicks a day at the Mansion without having to call them up and wait for them to show up.
Just to find out that they don't look like the pics or you have no chemistry with them.
You see something you like. Just take her up to your room while you wait for your facebook regulars to show up.
Husker Dude
06-25-18, 22:28
Is Halloween the best time to go if you are staying at the Mansion? The YouTube vid of the party looks pretty good.Halloween, Super Bowl, 4th July parties are great times, % Robert's Birthday party is fantastic too, but varies when it is, (Usually around the first weekend in March, but have seen it from end -Feb- to mid-March).
Sunday morning. Get up around 10 am. Shower. Go get breakfast across the street. Finish up and text Amigas Sexi if Tatiana is available. Get reply back not now later today. So, I head down to Chica con Punta for my runner up big butt. I seen a Venezuelan there in my previous session. Sure enough she was there and ready when I got the by there. Brown skin pretty face 26 year old from Caracas. Said her name was Samira or Salome I honestly forget. Surgery done on breast, stomach and ass. Could see a botch surgery on right butt check but I pay it no mind. I pay for a good lay not perfection. Jump right into it and enjoy pump that frame from the back. Hot ass hell in there even with the fan. LOL. Change positions a few times. Gradually it's become harder to finish due to over satisfication but I make it through. Decent session with a little bit more focus. 42 k for 30 minutes.
Decide to go relax and watch the game. Settle over at bar / restaurant by Nutibara which is packed because of the game. Relax, snack and watch the fans hang onto every mood and play. Happy that they won I finally get text Tatiana arrive. So I walk back to Amiga Sexi. Get there and she is waiting for me. Paid my dues and head straight to the room. I find out she is 29 Paisa. Fake tits and ass. She massages me up a little bit chit chat a little and then it's on and pounding time. Definitely went past 30 minutes I paid for but no one cared. I enjoyed it especially the fat butt and very warm vagina. But she wouldn't let me take a pic due to large tattoo that's just above her ass. Bummer. 48 k for 30 minutes.
Decided it's time for some rest. Get back to the apartment shower up throughly and take a siesta. Wake up around 9:30 pm. Check my phone got some Tinder request. Really haven't been checking them all trip. One intrigues me enough to exchange WhatsApp. She tells me straight up she is an escort and says her services are 250 k an hour. I asked for pics knowing I'm not going to pay it but would post her pics and info to anyone that might be interested. PM for number pics are below.
I hit up Barra Ejecutiva. I just like this place and tonight was even better because no one was in there but 5 guys and 20 plus girls. I know who I was looking for. The big butt I missed on yesterday. But it was hard to get to her at first due to the attention I was getting being one of the only guys in there. But finally broke through and settled on 70 k for 30 minutes. 24 year old Caramel skin Venezuelan. Real nice meaty fake ass. She had braces and too much make up but I enjoyed her in doggy for 20 minutes. After I finish she let me get a memory of the beautiful view which I share with you guys. Totally satisfied got the night. I head back to the apartment. Tommorow I'm going try some different places I don't usually go to. Wish me luck.
Wow! I would not put up with any of this. It makes me think of the old movie line "kiss me", "why?" because I like to be kissed before I get fucked.
Plus:
-Charging 25% extra for credit card payments.
-Charging people for drinking their own liquor outside of your room (not sure if they are still doing this).
You can get a dual SIM version S7, save your configuration and settings of your current phone and transfer almost exactly as it is to the new phone. You could keep the mifi for home use and you would have a WiFi hot spot in your pocket wherever you need it.
Back to girls, the stream of new Venezuelans arriving has not slowed down. It's a rare Centro casa that does not have a few at least on any given day.Could you name a few casas? Please.
SpotBlocker
06-26-18, 05:40
Has any buddy got anything on Rionegro, I'll be in Medellin on Sept 13 to the 24th but on the last 2 or 3 days I,m think of checking out Rionegro. About a Year ago when I was on a layover (because they put the wrong gate on my ticket) a local let me stay at his house in Rionegro and the next day he took me to the strip club just to help me kill some time. The club had doors like a wild wild west movie. I didn't talk to any girls since I didn't know what the guy I was with would think (acting like I was in the states) but I bet the girls are at good prices) but I was wondering if anyone knows what the place I'm talking about or if you have any info or advice you could share would help me out a lot.
Thanks.
Try to visit a few different casas today with one of my regulars.
First up was Amigas Sexi. It's just so close to where I'm staying and I like the girls and facilities. I went with 26 year old Blanca Estrella. She had a nice shape to her and her butt was bigger than I anticipated. I also like the shape of her pussy. Like fat puffy pussy. Innies are my favorite. Nice soft skin. Sweet girl. Wanted to exchange numbers and actually sent me a picture of that booty. 48 k.
Dulce Compañía Carrerra 45 #57-55.
9 girls. I would say age range from 18-19 to late 20's. Half doable. Girls next door looks. No enhancements. Two girls stick out. A skinny Emily. Pretty face. And a big breasted Vanessa with a baby face. Didn't session. I believe the host told me 40 k for 30 minutes. 2 k presentation fee without a session.
Pamela Carrera 45 #57-71.
5 girls. Maybe one doable. Girl next door looks. No enchantments. Age range was in 20's. 40 k for 3 minutes. 2 k presentation fee without session. Didn't session.
Barcelona Calle 59 #50-12.
Five girls. 4 indo skin and one Negra. Age in 20's. No enhancements. Maybe two were doable. 40 k 30 minutes. 5 k viewing fee. No session here.
La Casa De Dona FAnny Calle 61 #53-08.
Door was open so I walked up stairs to white gate door. Lady eating soup told no girls were here yet and to come back later. I didn't ask her when and went to the next place.
Artesenias Calle 61 53-78.
There is 3 different buzzers to enter the building. I randomly selected the one on the left of the door (the other two are on the right) and they buzzed me in. You walk into one room where two guys and a girl were talking and then there was the room the chicas were watching TV. A young guy in a blue server shirt tells me you have to consume something and it cost 4 k and pointed to sign saying the same thing. I asked him if he presented the girls, he said no they are all in here and you chose one. There were 7 girls if you included the one talking to two guys in the other room. All were decent looking and doable. Two stood out and were enhanced. The other were girl next door. I would guess as young as 18 through late 20's. One of the prettier ones stood up so I could see her. And I could see she was antsy to come over to me. When I called the host over she thought I was talking to her and was about to come over. I eventually did call her over because she had the ass I was seeking. She came over. I asked her how much. She said 70 k I countered with 50 k and we agreed on 60 k with pictures. Her name is Daniela a Paisa who didn't want to tell me here age. She looked 25. Caramel skin. Paisas baby faced from Medellin. And boy oh boy did she put on a shoe. Extremely active session. She rode the hell out of me. Sucked my nipples whole doing it. Pulled me into her in doggy. Telling to fuck her hard and grabbing and smacking my ass in missionary while she is telling me she is cummin. So much fun. I felt like I'm the one who got fucked. All good with me. We exchanged info. And I was exhausted and went back to the apartment to relax.
Got back to the apartment. Showered. Ate lunch and took a nap. Woke up around 10:30 and decided if I would go to fase dos since I have been there in a while. But decided against and went back to old faithful, Barra Ejecutiva. Same girls there small crowd as expected. There was a new girl I hadn't seen with a nice body dancing on stage. I waited for her to finish and do her rounds of collecting tips for the dance (they have to work so hard in strip clubs compared to states where it's a competition of how much money you can throw on stage). Asked for session and we settle on 70 k. A 24 year old Calenas named Paula. Her body looked natural besides her stomach. Ass wasn't outlandishly big. We porportioned. Tits were see's and hung slightly but still nice. The session was ok nothing spectacular but I think is because it's getting harder to come from all these sessions. LOL. She would not let me get pics. Can't win them all. Head back to the apartment for good nights rest.
New Life.
Aiffe.
Zandaly.
Amigas Sexxy.
Yakuza.
Chicas puntocom.
Etc.
There is a search function on this forum that you will find useful.
Could you name a few casas? Please.
Very nice roundup, thanks for this.
Try to visit a few different casas today with one of my regulars.
First up was Amigas Sexi. It's just so close to where I'm staying and I like the girls and facilities. I went with 26 year old Blanca Estrella. She had a nice shape to her and her butt was bigger than I anticipated. I also like the shape of her pussy. Like fat puffy pussy. Innies are my favorite. Nice soft skin. Sweet girl. Wanted to exchange numbers and actually sent me a picture of that booty. 48 k.
Dulce Compaa Carrerra 45 #57-55.
9 girls. I would say age range from 18-19 to late 20's. Half doable. Girls next door looks. No enhancements. Two girls stick out. A skinny Emily. Pretty face. And a big breasted Vanessa with a baby face. Didn't session. I believe the host told me 40 k for 30 minutes. 2 k presentation fee without a session...
Has any buddy got anything on Rionegro, I'll be in Medellin on Sept 13 to the 24th but on the last 2 or 3 days I,m think of checking out Rionegro. About a Year ago when I was on a layover (because they put the wrong gate on my ticket) a local let me stay at his house in Rionegro and the next day he took me to the strip club just to help me kill some time. The club had doors like a wild wild west movie. I didn't talk to any girls since I didn't know what the guy I was with would think (acting like I was in the states) but I bet the girls are at good prices) but I was wondering if anyone knows what the place I'm talking about or if you have any info or advice you could share would help me out a lot.
Thanks.I found a red light block with girls on Google Street view last year, can't remember where in Rio Negro but a cab driver ought to be able to take you there.
Black Page
06-27-18, 13:23
Could you name a few casas? Please.Look at the List!!!
Invaluable source of information.
This is from my earlier this month. Remember, your opinion, preference or experience might differ. With casas, It's about the leg work. Every trip I try to visit as many casas as I can because the line up can change very dramatically. So you know, cardio.
The Amigas Sexxy casa was a big disappointment this trip, which is usually my first stop. I had met some really memorable girls there before. But this time the line up just wasn't there. I tried multiple days on different times and still nothing great. They were also trying to charge me 48 K for half an hour, which is just shy of new life prices. I have no problem with their ambitions, but they just don't have the quality, quantity or popularity to compete with new life. Rooms are quite nice though. I'll give them another chance next trip.
New Life's line up was okay. They are the most popular with the gringos, and they know it. The line up quality fluctuates quite a bit depending on the time of day and day of the week. The best time is around 1-2 pm when the morning and afternoon shift are both present. I'd say the quality of the girls drop a lot after 4-5 pm. Many of the girls leave by then. However, the quantity and variety of girls are good as they have about 20 girls most of the week. You'll most likely find someone doable, and they're open on the weekends. (different line up, though) . Half an hour is 50 K and an hour is 80 K. I recommend Camila. She is in her 20's with a pretty face and good rack. She is a tad bit princess for my taste but she is a solid choice.
For the rest of the casas, it was between 37 k to 42 k half an hour. Zandaly's line up is 80 percent the same from my previous visits. Quality wise it is just okay with around 10 girls available on the weekdays. Chicas Punto Com (2nd floor) and Sexy Fantasias 1 (3rd floor) are in the same building. Chicas Punto Com has a sorority house vibe and always have 10 to 20 girls. Girls are usually on the younger side. (early 20's) The quality isn't good, and the facilities are pretty bad. Most of the time you'll only find one or two girls who are doable and won't repeat. Sexy Fantasias have a smaller line up, and quality is the same as Sexy Fantasias 1. Yakusa is run like a frat house with 4-7 girls, run by frat boys. They tried to gringo price me at 50 k for half an hour. No thanks. You have the option to use the nearby hotel room for an extra fee. The basic room is hot and has no shower. But one thing that yakusa has going for it is that it's open late. (after 9 pm I think) Sexy Fantasias 2, affi, Paris club and Dulce Compania has around 4-8 girls on the weekdays. Their line up changes a lot every trip but I usually find one or two girls that is my taste and repeat. In the end, it's about exploring. With effort you'll find what you're looking for. Where, when, who, and what price is always a mystery, and that's part of the fun. If you manage your expectations, I think you can have a great time with or without knowing Spanish. The list and map in the forum is a great resource, and I highly recommend studying it before you get to Medellin.
World Travel 69
06-27-18, 17:19
Do you mean this Rionegro. It is a bit far from Medellin.
I found a red light block with girls on Google Street view last year, can't remember where in Rio Negro but a cab driver ought to be able to take you there.
Do you mean this Rionegro. It is a bit far from Medellin.I spent one night in Rio Negro, in transit a few months ago. I did not feel like taking a taxi / bus to Medellin because I was leaving early the next day. I probably will do that again in the future, and I would love to get some intel on how one can get local poon.
When I did that last time, I had a Medellin fav come visit me at my hotel in Rio Negro. I had to pay her taxi, in addition to her donation. I am pretty sure she took the bus and pocketed the extra money.
Yakusa is run like a frat house with 4-7 girls, run by frat boys. They tried to gringo price me at 50 k for half an hour. No thanks. You have the option to use the nearby hotel room for an extra fee. The basic room is hot and has no shower. But one thing that yakusa has going for it is that it's open late. (after 9 pm I think) It's open way later then that past 1 am /2 am on weeknights and past 3 am on weekends. They charged me 45 k with no takeout fee to my hotel across the street on multiple occasions.
Not always cuties but often enough for me to peek in. It's like a cross between a Casa and a very small strip club, Rosanna, who was one of the cuter ones at the time came out and did a whole strip show for me and a few locals, was very intimate and fun.
Do you mean this Rionegro. It is a bit far from Medellin.That's the one, the small town next to the airport. I cruised if on Google Street View last year and found a whole block with obvious street girls standing in front of bars but forgot to write down what block that was.
SpotBlocker
06-28-18, 02:30
Do you mean this Rionegro. It is a bit far from Medellin.Yes that's the place.
New Life... I recommend Camila. She is in her 20's with a pretty face and good rack. She is a tad bit princess for my taste but she is a solid choice..YMMV. I had her twice and she was bad both times. Very mechanical. But maybe the best looking one there, very pretty face. I gave her a second chance hoping it would improve but it didn't. I didn't come either time. I can't get going when the chica is completely uninterested.
Blue Touch
06-28-18, 03:35
La Galeria.
I found a red light block with girls on Google Street view last year, can't remember where in Rio Negro but a cab driver ought to be able to take you there.
El Mechanico
06-28-18, 14:26
YMMV. I had her twice and she was bad both times. Very mechanical. But maybe the best looking one there, very pretty face. I gave her a second chance hoping it would improve but it didn't. I didn't come either time. I can't get going when the chica is completely uninterested.There are probably 1000 Camilas that rotate thru New Life and every other MP / Casa!
Mr Enternational
06-28-18, 15:33
There are probably 1000 Camilas that rotate thru New Life and every other MP / Casa!Yeah. But this one is in her 20's with a pretty face and a good rack.
It's open way later then that past 1 am /2 am on weeknights and past 3 am on weekends. They charged me 45 k with no takeout fee to my hotel across the street on multiple occasions.Thank you for the correction. I personally never developed much of a rapport with the staff at yakusa. Simply haven't frequent the place enough. My spanish is very poor as well. I'll poke in my head more next time.
YMMV. I had her twice and she was bad both times. Very mechanical. But maybe the best looking one there, very pretty face. I gave her a second chance hoping it would improve but it didn't. I didn't come either time. I can't get going when the chica is completely uninterested.I hear you. The first session I did with her was pretty good. Unfortunately, it got more mechanical afterwards. She does have the looks though. For some people that might be enough to enjoy themselves. As you said, YMMV. Thanks for the input.
What's the thing with the love motels? Are they recommended?
Any recommendations for a mid range girl-friendly hotel?
Black Page
06-28-18, 17:16
What's the thing with the love motels? Are they recommended?
Any recommendations for a mid range girl-friendly hotel?Look at the List. Search "love motel" or "love hotel" here.
Plenty of information reported and summarized.
What's the thing with the love motels? Are they recommended?
Any recommendations for a mid range girl-friendly hotel?Here is a list of Love Motels (drop down list at the top).
http://sexosentido.co/hotel-3d-suite-medellin/habitaciones/
The only one I have used was Hotel Eros, hot tub and steam room: http://sexosentido.co/hotel-eros-medellin/ It is right down in Centro at the end of the block from the Raudal red light block. The hot tub and steam room would be more fun in a hotel with AC though. I want to try 3 the Suites next time as they do have AC in the nicer rooms.
For a mid range girl friendly hotel I stay at the Botero. ($26 a night).
I have a long post about it in the Medellin Hotels thread. It is in Centro though which is not for everybody as it has a high crime rate. Although you only have to make it about 2 blocks to 4 strip club / bordellos and 2 Casa's and 2 redlight blocks so your exposure is limited. (plus you can cab after dark).
What's the thing with the love motels? Are they recommended?
Any recommendations for a mid range girl-friendly hotel?They're places with rooms available for short term. They range from about 16 k for 2 hours up to about 90 k for 6 hours. Once you get past the 30-40 k price range they usually have a Jacuzzi.
Probably the best in Medellin is Motel Ibiza. About 90 k with Jacuzzi, stripper pole, love chair, great shower and everything you might need either in the mini fridge or just a phone call away. Supposedly they have great food for room service. They have a catalog in room with sex toys and costumes for purchase. They also have very good WiFi. Rate is for 6 hours.
There are probably some cheaper than 16 k. I've never looked for the low end places.
What's the thing with the love motels? Are they recommended?
For Love Hotels the "Presidential Suite" at Hotel Hawaii Suites looks pretty fun:
(at Carrera 44 Calle 47-35).
http://sexosentido.co/motel-hawaii-suite/habitacion-presidencial/
Black Page
06-29-18, 11:40
Probably the best in Medellin is Motel Ibiza.
There are probably some cheaper than 16 k. I've never looked for the low end places.Again, the best we can recommend to someone who asks this question is SEARCH THE FORUM and read the Medellin List. (RTFF in short)
There are long and detailed reports about several hotels here, providing much more information than just the name and the cost.
For example, if one just searches for "Black Page" and "Hotel", he can find photos and details about Hotel Lafayette (I posted about it less than one week ago, not ages ago) and Motel Ibiza, top of luxury, even with a suite including a steam bath for 8. I also tried some shithole in Centro and Nikitao which costed 5 k, but that's not for the fainthearted.
I am not advising to search for my posts because claiming my posts are the best ones. On the contrary. It is just an example. There is a WEALTH of information readily available at fingertips, if one is just not lazy and tries the "search" function or examines the List. How many days of work WT99 did spend to compile it? Why to disregard such a monumental compilation work?
Black Page
06-29-18, 11:48
The only one I have used was Hotel Eros, hot tub and steam room: It is right down in Centro at the end of the block from the Raudal red light blockYou might also try Lafayette, one block from Prado metro station, unexpected in one looks at the area.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2190665&viewfull=1#post2190665.
http://motelpuntocero.com.co/web/suites/punto-cero-suite-presidencial/
Preferably with three chicas.
Hasideas Tao
06-30-18, 14:52
Is Halloween the best time to go if you are staying at the Mansion? The YouTube vid of the party looks pretty good.Link to video?
Hasideas Tao
06-30-18, 15:14
I hope I'm not breaking any rules with this personal pitch.
$55 per night. Private bathroom and big private balcony.
I know tons of girls who are not clock watchers and generally ask $30 - $50 short time.
Nearby local style lunches for around $3 -$4.
Grilled skirt steaks with arepa for $3.
Butterflied trout with soup and coconut rice for $4.
Walking distance to casas strip clubs and local hang out pick up spots.
Translations negotiations and recommendations included. I also give tours for a little extra.
Many times I have been complimented as making the best breakfast in Medellin. :D (N. American style).
Only catch is that if I never met you, you got to have solid references / referrals / reports.
The rooms at the mansion will run you anywhere between 75 and 100 bucks a night depending on the room.
The chicas will charge $55 for short time and about $110 for "todo la noche" at the current exchange rate.
Most chicas are 6 and 7's with an occasional 8 showing up mostly at night. GFE is the norm without an up sell for BBBJ.
Nice place to meet girls on the fly while still seeing other women you have lined up.
Seems like a good enough deal.
I hope I'm not breaking any rules with this personal pitch.
$55 per night. Private bathroom and big private balcony.
I know tons of girls who are not clock watchers and generally ask $30 - $50 short time.
Nearby local style lunches for around $3 -$4.
Grilled skirt steaks with arepa for $3.
Butterflied trout with soup and coconut rice for $4..
Black Page
06-30-18, 19:48
http://motelpuntocero.com.co/web/suites/punto-cero-suite-presidencial/
Preferably with three chicas.There is always something above.
This is my ultimate: http://motelibiza.com/suites/mansion.
I love the hydro and sauna for 8 persons.
Colombians really know how to enjoy and spoil themselves.
That's the one, the small town next to the airport. I cruised if on Google Street View last year and found a whole block with obvious street girls standing in front of bars but forgot to write down what block that was.https://goo.gl/maps/J4ivf1DUqVs
Click on the photo and go to street view, as soon as your in street view, turn around and look.
SonicBoom1
07-01-18, 17:17
There is always something above.
This is my ultimate: http://motelibiza.com/suites/mansion.
I love the hydro and sauna for 8 persons.
Colombians really know how to enjoy and spoil themselves.That's got to be among top 3 rooms I've ever seen.
It looks a hell of a lot better than Veracruz that's for sure.
https://goo.gl/maps/J4ivf1DUqVs
Click on the photo and go to street view, as soon as your in street view, turn around and look.
Black Page
07-02-18, 09:24
That's got to be among top 3 rooms I've ever seen.And if we look at prices of those rooms it really looks stellar! So cheap.
2 or 3 years ago I posted about my "pole dancer" girl. If you search you also find photos.
I remember that a while after I left Medellin she sent me, just to make me feel jealous, a photo of her and THREE girls in a jacuzzi of Ibiza. A lady ("veterana" 40 yo) had hired them for 200 k each for a night of fun. All together all ladies. Imagine.
Black Page
07-02-18, 09:26
It looks a hell of a lot better than Veracruz that's for sure.ROFL Since when Veracruz has become the top destination and benchmark reference in Colombia??
The Tall Man
07-02-18, 16:57
I love to quote myself. IN CENTRO, I mean really in centro, 1 block from Prado Metro Station, I recommend without hesitation the Motel Lafayette (pronounce "Lafajette" if you want to ask a taxi driver to take you there). Una chimba de hotel, as I heard my girl exlamating once we got in front of the big jacuzzi.
All details here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1953559&viewfull=1#post1953559Wow a nice short term motel right there in centro! Much much much better than the 10 mil 30 minute shit hole dive I was at last night in centro on cundinamarca right across the street from the Hotel Channel. For some reason the Hotel Channel was pad locked closed during the day yesterday. Spent 10 mil on the room and 40 for my girl who sucked me dry.
TTM.
Somebody out there doing some good video work, thought you guys would enjoy, I did!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhdidx1ipIk
Fair point, I did set the bar way low with that comment. LOL!
ROFL Since when Veracruz has become the top destination and benchmark reference in Colombia??
PolloNegro
07-05-18, 00:26
I guess it all depends on what you want. This was one of my best trips and one of my worst trips, but overall I managed to come out of this event on top. Well first off, I arrived Sunday and was busted at the immigration & customs unit, with some legal contraband. I guess they thought I couldn't speak Spanish and 3 immigration officers went in on me like Pitbull on the back of a meat truck who hasn't eaten in 6 weeks. I explained that all of the gifts were for my girlfriend & her family, but they weren't buying it. So when all else fails, I toughened up and said, stop! Put my items back in my suitcase, how much money to get you to let me out of the F*ing room and allow me to be on my way. The ugly chic didn't hesitate to scream five hundred US. I was tired, I was sweaty, I hadn't had any sleep in 3 days & I had a gang of Centro Cinnamon Bunns waiting on me, I whipped out 5 crispy Ben Franks, Those officers packed my suitcase like my mother would, made me sign a release and told me I was free to go. The pretty officer looked at me and asked, what do you do for a living, I responded, soy jugador? Ves que me gusta correr riesgos! LOL, I'm a gambler can't you I like taking chances. My heart was beating church kids who was caught stealing from the offering cup. I then showed them my real work badge & credentials, they were in shock, and allowed me to leave the airport.
I had sat up some big plans with about 10 girls and everything went as planned. If you're wondering, I still have the girlfriend, and many of the 10 girls were her cousins. I had a plan to watch what I spent this trip just to do a test run. I was already $500 US down and glad to be free. I arrived at Centro with 2 large suitcases & I set up my room, which had a queen size bed and a full size bed. I brought over nearly every American.
Commodity you needed to make a Centro Room feel like a Hollywood suite. My first night I had Daniella, Liora, & Michelle. Tired as a prize Bull who had banged 8 heffers, somehow after I sat up my room, lit a few candles and sipped a little vodka, I was ready to bang some Medellin poonanny! Michelle was the ring leader, first cousin to my girl and knows a gang of university girls who need plata. Fellows ummma have to post a few pics to give you a glimpse as some of the honeys this PolloNegro was dipping in. Caramel skin, fat asses, white pearly skin, good Lord they came in all shapes & sizes. Michelle is my personal favorite, 4'7" with a 40 inch ass. Please bear with me, another one's just walked in, and I'll finish this post a little later, Vive Colombia, Pollo Negro is out!
$500 at customs, LOL!
I guess it all depends on what you want. This was one of my best trips and one of my worst trips, but overall I managed to come out of this event on top. Well first off, I arrived Sunday and was busted at the immigration & customs unit, with some legal contraband. I guess they thought I couldn't speak Spanish and 3 immigration officers went in on me like Pitbull on the back of a meat truck who hasn't eaten in 6 weeks. I explained that all of the gifts were for my girlfriend & her family, but they weren't buying it. So when all else fails, I toughened up and said, stop! Put my items back in my suitcase, how much money to get you to let me out of the F*ing room and allow me to be on my way. The ugly chic didn't hesitate to scream five hundred US. I was tired, I was sweaty, I hadn't had any sleep in 3 days & I had a gang of Centro Cinnamon Bunns waiting on me, I whipped out 5 crispy Ben Franks, Those officers packed my suitcase like my mother would, made me sign a release and told me I was free to go. The pretty officer looked at me and asked, what do you do for a living, I responded, soy jugador? Ves que me gusta correr riesgos! LOL, I'm a gambler can't you I like taking chances. My heart was beating church kids who was caught stealing from the offering cup. I then showed them my real work badge & credentials, they were in shock, and allowed me to leave the airport.
PolloNegro
07-05-18, 04:47
But as I was typing, a girl came to my door looking to Phillip, good lord on the heaven tops. I be uncle Phil, Phil the Pill, Phil the Deal. I've seen some beautiful women, and I've been around the world, never in my life have I seen a woman so well put together with such a perfect tan. She entered my room, stripped down, dropped to her knees started blowing me, gagging, spitting, asking mi did I want [Non-English text deleted by Admin]. Fellows, I have tons of cash to blow, this chic right here, can damn sure get as many pesos as she wants and can set as many citas as she want. Crazy, dimensions, this girl is 5'0" 117 lbs and good lord work with a weak man. I didn't have a lot of time, but I banged her ass and twat for no less than an hour. Oral, vaginal, anal, CIM. Her only downside was that it took her about a hour & 15 minutes to find my hotel in centro. I got a lot of stories to tell you about this trip, but this girl & every girl I bang, does pics, vídeo, and CIM, no need in bumping my gums, her name is Selena, inbox me for number. Won't have vídeo available for at least 3 days, got allot work once I return to the states. Her name is Selena, she's 18 with a cédula! Pollonegro is out.
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MedellinTaster
07-05-18, 05:51
Friends,
My account had a problem and I could not share my stories before.
I am from Colombia and my hobby have always been women, I dedicated myself to taste different women from those who work in the street, in bars, in striptease sites, escorts. I started in Bogota and other cities in Colombia, now in Medellin. . I have many stories and recommendations that I will be writing to you.
My first experience was in "casas" I always used to travel and I selected the woman to taste, Alejandra was the first selected in New Life (for me it is the best casa in the center Medellin and the one with the most women), the prices in women in Medellin are low compared to other parts of the country. I decided to enter, good legs, tall, brunette. She had a short skirt, when we entered she danced and got naked. Full kisses, GFE, BBBJ included, different poses and negotiation ass.
After the first round, many kisses, so much that we get warm and start the second round, she is no problem with the ass, is very relaxed and likes 69. Recommended.
$ 80 COP time (1 hour) + $ 50 COP ass + $ 8 COP drinks.
MedellinGringo
07-05-18, 07:21
I arrived Sunday and was busted at the immigration & customs unit, with some legal contraband.
I explained that all of the gifts were for my girlfriend & her family, but they weren't buying it. So when all else fails, I toughened up and said, stop! Put my items back in my suitcase, how much money to get you to let me out of the F*ing room and allow me to be on my way. The ugly chic didn't hesitate to scream five hundred US.
What did you have in your suit case that was worth more than $500?
Black Page
07-05-18, 11:44
The ugly chic didn't hesitate to scream five hundred US. I was tired, I was sweaty, I hadn't had any sleep in 3 days & I had a gang of Centro Cinnamon Bunns waiting on me, I whipped out 5 crispy Ben Franks, Those officers packed my suitcase like my mother would, made me sign a release and told me I was free to go. The pretty officer looked at me and asked, what do you do for a living, I responded, soy jugador? Ves que me gusta correr riesgos! LOL, I'm a gambler can't you I like taking chances. My heart was beating church kids who was caught stealing from the offering cup. I then showed them my real work badge & credentials, they were in shock, and allowed me to leave the airport.
You must know that you made everyone damn curious with your story. First, about your real work badge. Let me guess: are you FBI Director? Second, WHAT THE HELL did you try to import in your suitcase??
I remember years ago I brought from Europe to Colombia in my suitcase, as gift for a girl and two friends, 3 kg of precious cheese and a traditional farm 1 kg salami (overall maybe 100 EUR value). I was happy to be not stopped.
Also, everytime I leave Colombia, I pack in my suitcases 10 kg of tropical fruits and 5-6 kg of Juan Valdez cafe de origen. Last time also 5 kg of panela. Never had a single problem with that.
You must know that you made everyone damn curious with your story. First, about your real work badge. Let me guess: are you FBI Director? Second, WHAT THE HELL did you try to import in your suitcase??
I remember years ago I brought from Europe to Colombia in my suitcase, as gift for a girl and two friends, 3 kg of precious cheese and a traditional farm 1 kg salami (overall maybe 100 EUR value). I was happy to be not stopped.
Also, everytime I leave Colombia, I pack in my suitcases 10 kg of tropical fruits and 5-6 kg of Juan Valdez cafe de origen. Last time also 5 kg of panela. Never had a single problem with that.What fruit did they allow you? Once I was bringing in some bananas and apples. US customs took the bananas and allowed the apples.
Mr Enternational
07-05-18, 14:24
What fruit did they allow you? Once I was bringing in some bananas and apples. US customs took the bananas and allowed the apples.You were lucky because the fine in the USA for trying to bring in fruit is $500 for each piece.
Black Page
07-05-18, 15:39
What fruit did they allow you? Once I was bringing in some bananas and apples. US customs took the bananas and allowed the apples.The Donald did not sign a banana ban yet, maybe.
When I fly back to my country in Europe from Batam Indonesia (via Singapore), Malaysia, Colombia, I am used to go to the market on my last day to buy what I cannot find at home. Some weeks ago, from Medellin to Europe I brought back 2 papayas, mangos, pitahaya, tomates de arbol. Depending on seasonal availability, I am used to bring from Batam mangoes, manggis (a.k.a. mangosteen), rambutan. Some years ago even a durian in a backpack from Batam to Europe via Singapore, Changi, and CDG (if you don't know what a durian is, you will not undersand why I specify I did that).
You were lucky because the fine in the USA for trying to bring in fruit is $500 for each piece.I thought Singapore was even stricter, but I never had problems there.
I leave Batam from Harbour Bay, I cross Indonesia emigration with X-ray luggage check, then 45 minutes ferry, then immigration at Singapore Harbour Front, again X-rays, then 1 hour MRT train to Changi, check-in of all luggage to my final destination.
At Indonesia and Singapore borders they check luggage with X-rays because they search for alcohol and tobacco. They ignore the rest.
By the way, the time I carried a durian I risked. The fine to bring a durian in the MRT is about 1000 SGD.
There has been an exception, several years ago, on my return to my town from Accra (via CDG). The customs officers stopped me and requested to check my luggage. Imagine the curiosity when they found the fruits. They started to examine all them, but looking for possible drugs concealed. The highest-grade officer ordered others to cut one of my mangoes and also screened my papaya with X-rays. I remember the papaya slowly moving on the belt towards its destiny...
No problems. I am not a drug smuggler. Finally the told me bye and good appetite.
(Why some JPG files are rendered with preview thumbnails, but others like mine below NOT??)
Is Medellin recommended for non-Spanish speaking guy travelling solo? I expect everyone will try to rip you off if you don't speak native language from cab driver to girls but I know how to say no. Would I have problem getting around town with English / google translator and connecting with girls outside the casas? What about prepagos / incall girls from internet, only text in Spanish?
Of course I did RTFF the thread about casas, fb girls, mansion and know a lot already thanks to you guys. I did prepare some short phrases in Spanish but obviously not enough to have a conversation. I have experience from the other side of the world (Europe, Dubai, Morocco etc). Similarly most Moroccan girls speak no English but good thing was I felt pretty safe to use my "flashy"smart phone there as translator without worrying it may get snatched and getting around alone evening time or night was safe.
So I wonder if I could do same thing in Medellin solo.
You will be fine. Just be prepared to pay gorngo prices
Is Medellin recommended for non-Spanish speaking guy travelling solo? I expect everyone will try to rip you off if you don't speak native language from cab driver to girls but I know how to say no. Would I have problem getting around town with English / google translator and connecting with girls outside the casas? What about prepagos / incall girls from internet, only text in Spanish?
Of course I did RTFF the thread about casas, fb girls, mansion and know a lot already thanks to you guys. I did prepare some short phrases in Spanish but obviously not enough to have a conversation. I have experience from the other side of the world (Europe, Dubai, Morocco etc). Similarly most Moroccan girls speak no English but good thing was I felt pretty safe to use my "flashy"smart phone there as translator without worrying it may get snatched and getting around alone evening time or night was safe.
So I wonder if I could do same thing in Medellin solo..
Eszpresszo
07-06-18, 12:33
Is Medellin recommended for non-Spanish speaking guy travelling solo? I expect everyone will try to rip you off if you don't speak native language from cab driver to girls but I know how to say no. Would I have problem getting around town with English / google translator and connecting with girls outside the casas? What about prepagos / incall girls from internet, only text in Spanish?
So I wonder if I could do same thing in Medellin solo.Went there for three nights and didn't encounter any of the problems you mentioned. The general population are actually pretty nice people in regards to tourists. This is not a Mexican border town, you know. I knew very little Spanish, but got around well enough and got laid with little hassle. Never even thought of using Google translator, (though I did benefit from hooking up with a Canadian backpacker chick who spoke Spanish the first day). If anything, its too easy though I didn't deal with any women outside the casas which are abundant and cheap. I guess you would have more problems with the language barrier trying to hook up with a prepago who didn't speak English. Its one reason I am learning to speak Spanish now, before I head onto Bogota, which is a huge city with more challenges. But, if you are a "good traveler", it would be the same as if you were in a part of Thailand or the Dominican Republic where few people spoke English. Some of us are good at traveling to offbeat destinations. Are you?
You will be fine. Just be prepared to pay gorngo prices.I don't have any issues in Medellin. My Spanish is awful. I use google translate without issue. Yes, I may pay a little more, but no other issues. I typically set girls up prior to my trip. Usually Colombian cupid, but this trip facebook as well. I will be back in Medellin next week.
Go and have fun.
I'm half way through my trip and I am hesitatingly writing a bit of a report. I hesitate because I doubt most of the membership here will relate and I'm probably leaving myself open to unwanted criticism. My motivations and goals in visiting Medellin are seemingly different. But not entirely. Different, not better or worse.
Let me briefly explain. My priority when I vacation is to sightsee, have adventure and get to know the culture. Women are not the priority, but I like to indulge. I also like an emotional connection, not just a wam bang thank you ma'am. I would never go to a house or the Mansion or anything like that. To each his own, and that's just not me. I think these things set me apart from most others here, though perhaps some of you can relate.
The original plan was to stay a week. I extended that to 2 more weeks. I'm here 8 days now. The first 5 days were spent at an Airbnb in Poblado, Soul Lifestyle Apartments. I don't recommend it. The apartment wasn't totally up to snuff and the host, or should I say super host, was less than accommodating. The building itself is nice and management there is very helpful. It's basically an 80 apartment building geared to being a hotel with a few independent owners, like the one I had. I'm not here to write an apartment review but I'll be happy to answer any questions. I also wrote a review on the Airbnb site.
I moved to Hotel Inntu in Laureles. It is what I consider a 4 star hotel and I got a junior suite for a little more than I was paying at Soul. It's a wonderful place in the heart of Laureles. The only drawback is that there's a hefty fee for bring in guests.
Back to Poblado. If I never set foot in that part of town, it will be too soon, haha. When I travel, I don't want to see hordes of Americans and fast food restaurants and, in general, American culture. Parque Lleras was a disaster. It was teeming with drunken Americans, restaurants that served hamburgers and pizza and blasted ear-deafening reggaton music. I lasted 10 minutes and practically ran away. Laurales is a nice change of pace so far.
Women are always on my mind like everyone here. I have never come across such gorgeous young women that are readily available. I found more than what I was looking for on Seeking Arrangements. While the site is available anywhere in the world, motivations in Colombia seem different than in America for the women. There's only a minority of what I would term strictly prostitutes. Most are college students, 18-26, looking for tuition money, or so they say. I think many try to rationalize not being a prostitute by wanting an emotional connection. And I guess there is a difference. I found 3 regulars all of whom are incredible. I have a good time with them as well as great sex. In my opinion, the prices are extremely reasonable. Dinner and up to 400.000 COP for multiple hours or the night.
There are also women on there that treat the site like match.com and are looking for a serious relationship. I fell for one of those, stupid me. She came from Cali at her own expense to meet me. Never asked for a dime, though I insisted on giving her money for the trip. A 20 something year old law student.
And that's where I'm at. I'm still getting to know the city, but I love it so far and may retire here. The people are incredibly friendly and prices are reasonable. And you can't beat the weather.
If there's any interest, I'll do a part 2 when the trip ends.
Back to Poblado. If I never set foot in that part of town, it will be too soon, haha. When I travel, I don't want to see hordes of Americans and fast food restaurants and, in general, American culture. Parque Lleras was a disaster. It was teeming with drunken Americans, restaurants that served hamburgers and pizza and blasted ear-deafening reggaton music. I lasted 10 minutes and practically ran away. Laurales is a nice change of pace so far.
And that's where I'm at. I'm still getting to know the city, but I love it so far and may retire here. The people are incredibly friendly and prices are reasonable. And you can't beat the weather.
If there's any interest, I'll do a part 2 when the trip ends.Cool and honest report!
Thanks!
Not a big fan of el Poblado or Parque Lleras myself.
Enjoy!
Mr Enternational
07-06-18, 14:35
I have a good time with them as well as great sex. In my opinion, the prices are extremely reasonable. Dinner and up to 400.000 COP for multiple hours or the night.400K only seems reasonable because you are a rich foreigner. If you can imagine the amount being reasonable to an average local then it is reasonable. But trust, unless it is some big time drug dealers ain't no Colombians considering 400K as being reasonable for some pussy. In 100 countries I have never needed pussy so bad as to pay 400K for it. I do not consider that remotely reasonable, especially for Colombia. And feeding a bih in addition to that? Or are you saying that she made dinner for you included in the 400K?
To put things into perspective, my girlfriend works a normal job at an energy company in Bogota and makes 800K/MONTH. So imagine being back home and giving someone 1 month's salary for 2 nights of being with you. Would you consider that reasonable?
PepolesBuddy
07-06-18, 14:49
Great report! I would advise you to lower your gift amount though to not encourage these chicas. I am very selective myself. Out of 100 chicas I wrote, I only met up with 15 and slept with 3. I usually offer 150-200 k if we end up in intimacy and 300 k if it's all day and night.
StripperMan
07-06-18, 15:42
I'm half way through my trip and I am hesitatingly writing a bit of a report. I hesitate because I doubt most of the membership here will relate and I'm probably leaving myself open to unwanted criticism. My motivations and goals in visiting Medellin are seemingly different. But not entirely. Different, not better or worse.
Let me briefly explain. My priority when I vacation is to sightsee, have adventure and get to know the culture. Women are not the priority, but I like to indulge. I also like an emotional connection, not just a wam bang thank you ma'am. I would never go to a house or the Mansion or anything like that. To each his own, and that's just not me. I think these things set me apart from most others here, though perhaps some of you can relate.
The original plan was to stay a week. I extended that to 2 more weeks. I'm here 8 days now. The first 5 days were spent at an Airbnb in Poblado, Soul Lifestyle Apartments. I don't recommend it. The apartment wasn't totally up to snuff and the host, or should I say super host, was less than accommodating. The building itself is nice and management there is very helpful. It's basically an 80 apartment building geared to being a hotel with a few independent owners, like the one I had. I'm not here to write an apartment review but I'll be happy to answer any questions. I also wrote a review on the Airbnb site..Nice report. A lot of people in California where I live talk about how annoying Cabo San Lucas is in Mexico because it's so "Americanized". Too many places set up just like the resorts & restaurants in the US, and too many Americans there speaking English.
Honestly, I couldn't care less what you think.
400K only seems reasonable because you are a rich foreigner. If you can imagine the amount being reasonable to an average local then it is reasonable. But trust, unless it is some big time drug dealers ain't no Colombians considering 400K as being reasonable for some pussy. In 100 countries I have never needed pussy so bad as to pay 400K for it. I do not consider that remotely reasonable, especially for Colombia. And feeding a bih in addition to that? Or are you saying that she made dinner for you included in the 400K?
To put things into perspective, my girlfriend works a normal job at an energy company in Bogota and makes 800K/MONTH. So imagine being back home and giving someone 1 month's salary for 2 nights of being with you. Would you consider that reasonable?
Black Page
07-06-18, 16:10
Honestly, I couldn't care less what you think.Go on ignoring the reality around you, and you will have a long way of fun ahead.
400 k in Medellin is out of the market. In short, not only you overpaid (you may not care of wasting money, as you have plenty), but also most likely your experience was below the standard, as girls who overcharge a foreigner do not feel sympathy but greediness.
I've been a long time member. I don't contribute much because I don't agree with the mainstream philosophy and self-rigtheousness often found. Many members are intolerant that other members think differently. I am not a professional monger nor do I want to be. There is no judgment intended in that remark. To each his own. I started my post with stating that I was posting hesitatingly. I knew there would be criticism. In the future, I'll just lurk. This is my last negative remark, it's not worth it. I am enjoying myself and spending my kajillions of dollars (I wish!) and the rest of the world be damned, haha.
Go on ignoring the reality around you, and you will have a long way of fun ahead.
400 k in Medellin is out of the market. In short, not only you overpaid (you may not care of wasting money, as you have plenty), but also most likely your experience was below the standard, as girls who overcharge a foreigner do not feel sympathy but greediness.
I'm half way through my trip and I am hesitatingly writing a bit of a report. I hesitate because I doubt most of the membership here will relate and I'm probably leaving myself open to unwanted criticism. My motivations and goals in visiting Medellin are seemingly different. But not entirely. Different, not better or worse.
If there's any interest, I'll do a part 2 when the trip ends.Nice report, thanks man! Part 2 please.
A man has a right to spend his $$ the way he wants to. Simple as that!
MedellinTaster
07-06-18, 18:24
On some occasion my whatsapp came a picture of a very beautiful woman, when I arrived in Medellin look for scorts in "mileroticos" and surprise. It was her, the beautiful woman. All the services included. But there was something that generated distrust, price $ 80 COP x 30 min (a scort of that level and economic).
She has an apartment to receive the clients, she is located in the Poblado, we agreed and when she opened she noticed that many girls work there.
The face was not the same, if it was her but the face was ugly and fat. We entered the room and I felt ripped off: No BBBJ, no 69, no different positions, no kisses and dead cow. Bad sex. Regular vaginal for 30 min and I decided to leave.
Experience: not all beautiful girls are good sex or GFE, this time I lost.
Attached video. I hope you like it.
PepolesBuddy
07-06-18, 18:38
A man has a right to spend his $$ the way he wants to. Simple as that!Yes if you want to be a buddy fucker and have these chicas turn into self entitled lazy bitches that we have in North America. And no if you don't want the price for pussy to be comparable to North American in 5/10/ or 20 years.
YippieKayay
07-06-18, 18:57
400K only seems reasonable because you are a rich foreigner.400 k for all night isn't so bad. Assuming the hourly rate is 150 k to 200 k (outside of Centro) then it seems fine to me.
That being said, you are right that it's quite a lot for Colombians. The ones who are over paying are paying 200 USD for short time. That's insane. Like paying 50 bucks for a one way subway ride.
Mr Enternational
07-06-18, 19:28
Honestly, I couldn't care less what you think.I understand that you don't care what I think, and of course you may spend your money how you please. But there are other mongers that may want to come to Colombia and not get ripped off. So consider my response for them. Not sure why people get offended when another monger tries to pull his coat tail. I thought that is what the board was for.
I'm half way through my trip and I am hesitatingly writing a bit of a report. I hesitate because I doubt most of the membership here will relate and I'm probably leaving myself open to unwanted criticism. My motivations and goals in visiting Medellin are seemingly different. But not entirely. Different, not better or worse.
Let me briefly explain. My priority when I vacation is to sightsee, have adventure and get to know the culture. Women are not the priority, but I like to indulge. I also like an emotional connection, not just a wam bang thank you ma'am. I would never go to a house or the Mansion or anything like that. To each his own, and that's just not me. I think these things set me apart from most others here, though perhaps some of you can relate..Hey,
I feel the same way pretty much, I hate Poblado with a passion and do not like the impersonal Casa line up choosing, even less so at Energy where you pick them out by the number they wear.
I did SeekingArrangements also my 1st trip but those girls are mostly dealing with foreigners so they have a inflated price.
I find the strip clubs fun, you can sit and talk or drink with a bunch of girls to pick one who seems both cool and sexy. And then try them on site 1st to see how you click, $28 to $65 ish from the Centro clubs to Fase II. Then if you like her get her number and WhatsApp a date for the next day / night.
I even like the Centro redlight blocks more then the Casa's, I can chat with the girl a bit and do a attitude check, they will be $10 to $20 for a test ride and much cheaper then SA girls to come see you at your hotel.
I understand that you don't care what I think, and of course you may spend your money how you please. But there are other mongers that may want to come to Colombia and not get ripped off. So consider my response for them. Not sure why people get offended when another monger tries to pull his coat tail. I thought that is what the board was for.You really do not get it, not all people want and value things as you do.
Not all mongers want the cheapest hooker with the highest dick mileage. Honestly, you are wasting your money. Who the fuck wants to spend his vacation in a dangerous ghetto / shithole fucking ratchet working girls?
I know I said I was going to shut up after my last post, but I feel I need to say this. I've been on the site long enough and see the same argument. Overpaying is ruining it for everyone. I think that's baloney. That's like saying that people that tip 25% or more in US restaurants ruin it for everyone. Plus a kajillion similar examples.
Frankly, I don't follow the going rates like I do my 401 k. I paid what I think is reasonable and fair, but I digress. I don't read ISG often and why should I have to? Disagree or no, I pay what I believe is fair. I still paid a fraction of what I would have paid in the US. One hour with any of the women I went out with would cost over $300 for one hour. And I got a lot more time than that. It was all GFE, something hard to come by in the US. I also said 400 k was the most I paid. We all have a lot more money compared to the local population and we are all rich in their eyes. I don't believe bragging about how little one is able to pay is particularly compassionate.
I could go on. It's my money. One or a dozen people are not going to change the economics by paying more than what others pay. And if it does, maybe the economics should be changed. It's like giving the waiter more than the standard tip is not going to change things, but if it does, maybe Adam Smith meant that to be. To get angry at someone because you (and I don't mean you personally Mr. E) think he's paying too much and ruining things is silly.
That's an opinion and I know many, if not most of you disagree with it, But I am entitled to my opinion.
I understand that you don't care what I think, and of course you may spend your money how you please. But there are other mongers that may want to come to Colombia and not get ripped off. So consider my response for them. Not sure why people get offended when another monger tries to pull his coat tail. I thought that is what the board was for.
I know I said I was going to shut up after my last post, but I feel I need to say this. I've been on the site long enough and see the same argument. Overpaying is ruining it for everyone. I think that's baloney. That's like saying that people that tip 25% or more in US restaurants ruin it for everyone. Plus a kajillion similar examples.
Frankly, I don't follow the going rates like I do my 401 k. I paid what I think is reasonable and fair, but I digress. I don't read ISG often and why should I have to? Disagree or no, I pay what I believe is fair. I still paid a fraction of what I would have paid in the US. One hour with any of the women I went out with would cost over $300 for one hour. And I got a lot more time than that. It was all GFE, something hard to come by in the US. I also said 400 k was the most I paid. We all have a lot more money compared to the local population and we are all rich in their eyes. I don't believe bragging about how little one is able to pay is particularly compassionate.
I could go on. It's my money. One or a dozen people are not going to change the economics by paying more than what others pay. And if it does, maybe the economics should be changed. It's like giving the waiter more than the standard tip is not going to change things, but if it does, maybe Adam Smith meant that to be. To get angry at someone because you (and I don't mean you personally Mr. E) think he's paying too much and ruining things is silly.
That's an opinion and I know many, if not most of you disagree with it, But I am entitled to my opinion.I totally agree with you. You make it you spend it.
I think most of your disgruntled price and tip control people have always been the back at the end of the line people. Afraid they might miss out and blame it on others. The only one making them miss out out is the man in the mirror.
Take care and happy pooning your way sir!
Eszpresszo
07-06-18, 23:28
You will be fine. Just be prepared to pay gorngo prices.I did not have that problem. Then again, I went into places where the prices are set based on time, and in the case of Energy, are actually posted online. I never made it to El Poblado, either. What freelancers charge the tourist is a different story, and I'm sure there are those who will spend like a gringo, and be taken advantage of.
The only time I had anyone try to take advantage of me (that I know of) was at the cafe opposite my hotel on "La Setenta". On the second morning I was there, I had to remind the waiter that the same breakfast he just served me, cost me 3000 k less the day before. He adjusted the tab accordingly. The previous morning, in the same cafe, I handed some cash to the waitress and walked out. She ran outside after me to give me back my change, unaware that it was meant as a propina. Don't expect that to happen in the DR!
I am confused why you thought you would be opening yourself for criticism. I don't think you paid an above average amount for seeking arrangement dates. Lots of guys avoid the casas and the gringo inn. You are enjoying yourself enough to extend your stay so I grade what you are doing as A+.
I'm half way through my trip and I am hesitatingly writing a bit of a report. I hesitate because I doubt most of the membership here will relate and I'm probably leaving myself open to unwanted criticism. My motivations and goals in visiting Medellin are seemingly different. But not entirely. Different, not better or worse.
Let me briefly explain. My priority when I vacation is to sightsee, have adventure and get to know the culture. Women are not the priority, but I like to indulge. I also like an emotional connection, not just a wam bang thank you ma'am. I would never go to a house or the Mansion or anything like that. To each his own, and that's just not me. I think these things set me apart from most others here, though perhaps some of you can relate.
The original plan was to stay a week. I extended that to 2 more weeks. I'm here 8 days now. The first 5 days were spent at an Airbnb in Poblado, Soul Lifestyle Apartments. I don't recommend it. The apartment wasn't totally up to snuff and the host, or should I say super host, was less than accommodating. The building itself is nice and management there is very helpful. It's basically an 80 apartment building geared to being a hotel with a few independent owners, like the one I had. I'm not here to write an apartment review but I'll be happy to answer any questions. I also wrote a review on the Airbnb site..
I agree 100% with everything you said. It's true that you would have paid much more than you did in the US, but I don't think that is justification for what anyone pays in Colombia or any other country. In all honesty I don't think what 1 or 100 guys pay will move the market in a way cheapskates like me would notice. Does anybody here really believe no one else has ever paid 400 k or much more? Of course not, and the going rate has not moved very much in recent years.
I guess I'm a weirdo. It doesn't make any difference to me what anyone else pays as long as the brother is paying with full knowledge of market rates. As I mentioned, I'm a cheapskate so if I really believed girls collecting half a million pesos via seeking arrangement would increase my costs I'm pretty sure I would try to prevent it. I just don't understand the mentality of going in on a guy because I don't want to pay as much as he does. Looking at it another way, I can afford a brand new car just like I can afford to pay European or US rates for girls anywhere in the world. I don't do either. Using the car example, I go for off lease vehicles with low mileage and a year or more of warranty left so I don't pay the 30% depreciation. But I'm never going to criticize people who buy brand new cars and try to make them feel bad because they drop thousands of dollars in value the moment they pull off the lot. It's none of my business.
I know I said I was going to shut up after my last post, but I feel I need to say this. I've been on the site long enough and see the same argument. Overpaying is ruining it for everyone. I think that's baloney. That's like saying that people that tip 25% or more in US restaurants ruin it for everyone. Plus a kajillion similar examples.
Frankly, I don't follow the going rates like I do my 401 k. I paid what I think is reasonable and fair, but I digress. I don't read ISG often and why should I have to? Disagree or no, I pay what I believe is fair. I still paid a fraction of what I would have paid in the US. One hour with any of the women I went out with would cost over $300 for one hour..
You really do not get it, not all people want and value things as you do.
Not all mongers want the cheapest hooker with the highest dick mileage. Honestly, you are wasting your money. Who the fuck wants to spend his vacation in a dangerous ghetto / shithole fucking ratchet working girls?I think people have to know most of us are on vacation in a foreign country. Even if we pay 200 $ for an all nighter that's insanely cheaper than the US and we get to do this with a really hot Latina. And even if the girls get spoiled for that one or 2 clients it's not like we live there to really change anything.
MjTravelLove
07-07-18, 02:48
You really do not get it, not all people want and value things as you do.
Not all mongers want the cheapest hooker with the highest dick mileage. Honestly, you are wasting your money. Who the fuck wants to spend his vacation in a dangerous ghetto / shithole fucking ratchet working girls?Completely agree, mate! My best experiences always come from ladies who charge sliiiiiightly more than the cheapest of the bunch, but spend all night getting it on in as many ways as possible. Party, play, etc. For that, you need to do more than drop 20 USD for a 20 minute session.
To each their own, but I just wanted to back you up and say that the person who said you are ruining anything is nothing but a jacka $$.
MjTravelLove
07-07-18, 02:49
400 k for all night isn't so bad. Assuming the hourly rate is 150 k to 200 k (outside of Centro) then it seems fine to me.
That being said, you are right that it's quite a lot for Colombians. The ones who are over paying are paying 200 USD for short time. That's insane. Like paying 50 bucks for a one way subway ride.Who is paying 200 USD for a short time?
I've been a long time member. I don't contribute much because I don't agree with the mainstream philosophy and self-rigtheousness often found. Many members are intolerant that other members think differently. I am not a professional monger nor do I want to be. There is no judgment intended in that remark. To each his own. I started my post with stating that I was posting hesitatingly. I knew there would be criticism. In the future, I'll just lurk. This is my last negative remark, it's not worth it. I am enjoying myself and spending my kajillions of dollars (I wish!) and the rest of the world be damned, haha.Don't lurk, just ignore the criticism from the know-it-all's and the bottom feeders. 400 K is reasonable for multi hours or overnight with a low mileage semi-girlfriend hottie, like you might find on SA.
P.S. Nothing against bottom feeders, I used to be one myself. Anyone regardless of spending habits should feel comfortable posting here. Except for trannie lovers.
It happens.
Who is paying 200 USD for a short time?
But I'm never going to criticize people who buy brand new cars and try to make them feel bad because they drop thousands of dollars in value the moment they pull off the lot. It's none of my business.A better one. Lets say your fellow car buyers are paying more than the asking price. Now the car dealers are going to think the asking price is too low. So your competition is unintentionally jacking up the prices.
That's what this whole topic is about. Guys are giving more than is asked or are ignorant of the going rates. That's what this board is for: to find out the who, what, where and how much.
Guys that throw money around without regard to the local market will eventually reck it. Over tipping is a different matter but can also kill the fun of others. Usually when you over tip the girl they will say nothing or a simple thank you. This is because they think you made a mistake w / the local currency and don't want to alert you to it. Over tipping is stupid but we all do it (at times) because we get too happy I guess.
There should be unity about this. You want high end, go high end. You want to bottom fish you know where to go.
A man has a right to spend his $$ the way he wants to. Simple as that!Absolutely. And members here have a right to offer their thoughts. No one can force you to spend or not spend a certain amount. But they can offer their opinion on what is smart and what is not.
My experience in this hobby has taught me that you don't get a better experience by overpaying. You do, however, open yourself up to risks when you throw around as much money as many locals make in a month.
A man has a right to spend his $$ the way he wants to. Simple as that!You're right, but.
If a guy is spending his money in a way that's likely to get him in bad situations, I'll suggest he change his methods. If a guy wants to go into Conejitas and start tossing $20 bills around, I'm either going to try and stop him or get the hell away from him.
I'm not up to speed on economics, but I can't see how 1 person, overpaying slightly 5 to 10 girls is going to raise the rates of 40,000 prepagos.
Eszpresszo
07-07-18, 04:15
My experience in this hobby has taught me that you don't get a better experience by overpaying. You do, however, open yourself up to risks when you throw around as much money as many locals make in a month.Not to mention, what you get in return for overpaying is more likely to be contempt than respect or appreciation.
Mr Enternational
07-07-18, 04:43
It's true that you would have paid much more than you did in the US, but I don't think that is justification for what anyone pays in Colombia or any other country.That is the mistake that people always make, comparing one market to another. They only do it when the visiting market is cheaper than the home market though. You don't see anyone from the US going to London and saying $500? But in the US it would be $300. Because prices in the US have shit to do with the prices in the UK, the same as they have shit to do with the prices in Colombia.
It has never bothered me that someone pays above whatever because it does not affect what I pay. I know how to talk and bargain. I only want to inform a person that the rate is above what they could be paying. I have been saying for years that when arriving in Thailand you can go upstairs and get a taxi to Pattaya for $30. But hey, many guys still insist on booking a ride or going downstairs to get a taxi for $50. Ain't changed the $30 I pay in all these years. Had a guy come to Thailand a couple of months ago. He thanked me because his previous visit he had been paying chicks way more than what he was getting them for this time.
A few months ago I went to Cambodia with some buddies. One friend fucked a chick for $40. The next day I decided to fuck the same chick but only gave her $20. 2 days after that my buddy got the chick again, but this time told her he would only give her the same $20 that I gave her.
Frankly, I don't care at all what anyone pays; just trying to save the people that are not aware a few dollars, pounds, pesos, or what have you. Like I said before, this board is about sharing information. If someone can give me better information about anything than I already have, then I am open to accept it. I wasn't born with the information that I try to share. I learned it from other people and through experience the same as everyone else.
Just like a few months ago when me and my girlfriend arrived at the airport in Bogota from our trip to Armenia. I tried to get a taxi in front of the building. She said if you walk across over there the taxi will be way cheaper. I didn't cuss her out and tell her not to tell me how to spend my money. I took heed and tried to learn something that I could pass on to the next person. The taxi was like 30% cheaper than it would have been in front of the building!
Mr E is the man! Always dropping knowledge! The Bangkok. Pattaya taxi wa a big help. Listen to the man.
That is the mistake that people always make, comparing one market to another. They only do it when the visiting market is cheaper than the home market though. You don't see anyone from the US going to London and saying $500? But in the US it would be $300. Because prices in the US have shit to do with the prices in the UK.
It has never bothered me that someone pays above whatever because it does not affect what I pay. I know how to talk and bargain. I only want to inform a person that the rate is above what they could be paying. I have been saying for years that when arriving in Thailand you can go upstairs and get a taxi to Pattaya for $30. But hey, many guys still insist on booking a ride or going downstairs to get a taxi for $50. Ain't changed the $30 I pay in all these years. Had a guy come to Thailand a couple of months ago. He thanked me because his previous visit he had been paying chicks way more than what he was getting them for this time..
That is the mistake that people always make, comparing one market to another. They only do it when the visiting market is cheaper than the home market though. You don't see anyone from the US going to London and saying $500? But in the US it would be $300. Because prices in the US have shit to do with the prices in the UK.
It has never bothered me that someone pays above whatever because it does not affect what I pay. I know how to talk and bargain. I only want to inform a person that the rate is above what they could be paying. I have been saying for years that when arriving in Thailand you can go upstairs and get a taxi to Pattaya for $30. But hey, many guys still insist on booking a ride or going downstairs to get a taxi for $50. Ain't changed the $30 I pay in all these years. Had a guy come to Thailand a couple of months ago. He thanked me because his previous visit he had been paying chicks way more than what he was getting them for this time.
A few months ago I went to Cambodia with some buddies. One friend fucked a chick for $40. The next day I decided to fuck the same chick but only gave her $20. 2 days after that my buddy got the chick again, but this time told her he would only give her the same $20 that I gave her.
Frankly, I don't care at all what anyone pays; just trying to save the people that are not aware a few dollars, pounds, pesos, or what have you. Like I said before, this board is about sharing information. If someone can give me better information about anything than I already have, then I am open to accept it.I do appreciate the info and contributions you have made. Here is my issue when I go to Colombia.
#1. My Spanish is limited.
#2. I'm asian so when I walk into any establishment I'm always going to get the worst price. I always counter but even then I'm pretty sure I am over paying for local standards.
#3. I'm only there for a limited time so if I see a girl I want I don't have the time to play the waiting game taking #s meet you when you're not working type of game.
My first trip to MDE I went to gustos. Girl asked for 300 usd for tln. I countered with 200 and we settled on 220 usd.
2nd day went to La Isla girl wanted 250 usd countered with 200 usd for tln.
3rd day went to Fase Dos girl asked for 250 and once again settled for 200 usd for 5 hours.
At this point of the trip I was not happy with any of the sessions. All were CBJ non GFE. Never really discussed service which was my mistake.
4th day went to Energy MP. 150 k COP for the session and it was fun.
Also got an escort from photoprepagos 200 k for an hour discussed services such as BBBJ and anal so thought I got a good deal.
5th day went back to energy. Once again 150 k cop for the session. Nothing great.
I do realize certain services must be negotiated (BBBJ anal etc) if not you will always get CBJ at least from my experiences.
I'm hoping my 2nd trip to MDE will be much better. My last 2 trips to Colombia I went to Bogota and I was very specific with each girl about things I wanted and realized it made all the difference.
I do appreciate all the contributions from the mde veterans here but you must remember we are only visiting for a limited time and in my case being limited in espanol and no possible way of being able to pass for a local does have its disadvantages LOL.
Mr Enternational
07-07-18, 06:20
You really do not get it, not all people want and value things as you do.
Not all mongers want the cheapest hooker with the highest dick mileage. Honestly, you are wasting your money. Who the fuck wants to spend his vacation in a dangerous ghetto / shithole fucking ratchet working girls?LOL. I don't think you get it. You don't know where a chick came from before she got to you or where she goes after she leaves you. Case in point, there is a rather nice gentlemen's club in Thailand where you fuck chicks for $40 for 1 hour. I was there a couple of months ago and met a chick that said she had to go to her second job at the gogo bar at 9 pm. The price at that gogo bar is over 3 times of what it is at her day job. I reported this when it happened and a couple weeks later another monger comes along and writes a report that he met the same chick. So some guys are going to the gogo and paying the same fucking chick $130 when they could be fucking her at her day job for $40. I guess some people would rather buy into the illusion that the $130 fuck is better and has less mileage than the $40 fuck though.
Just a short report to say I told you so. I am over at Kinnaree now and my brother is sitting with a chick that also works at What's Up? She said that she has to be there at 9 to get her hair and makeup done. Haven't I always told you guys that there are chicks that work multiple venues and you are getting nothing special if you go to the most expensive? Short time here at Kinnaree is 350 for the room plus 1000 for the girl. She said at her other job barfine is 1300 plus 3000 for short time or 5000 for long time. Pick your poison. Same poison, so you are not really picking it, but because it is in a different bottle it will cost you much more.
So we decide to hit Kinaree first. Now this is a one night stand for me in Pattaya so I am aiming to go for it. I then spotted 2 more hotties and invited them over. Bit fake but what the hell I take all 3 for a foursome. Banged them all and out to the bar to relax. The 2 late choices buggered off to other guys but the cutie in the micro mini skirt sticks onto me. She works at What's Up gogo in Walking Street in the night. Ok noted... We go to What's Up as I like the girl from Kinaree. No 318 at What's Up. We find her and ask her to invite her friends for a drink but I don't fancy her friends so I just bar fine no 318 from Kinaree.
IslandMonger
07-07-18, 06:38
Had a great first trip to Colombia mid-June for 6-days, two in Cartagena and four in Medellin. My buddy and I are experienced mongers having been to Costa Rica, Panama, DR, St. Maarten, Curacao, multiple times over the past decade, Colombia has been high on our list of destinations but we have not been able to pull it off until now. It was worth the wait and can't wait to go again.
A little background, I am early 40's, gringo with basic to conversational Spanish, by friend is early 50's, Latin with fluent Spanish. We are both married so not interested in networking on Facebook, Tinder or Colombian Cupid, lining up GF Chicas and building a contact list for future trips. We are in-and-out, fuck as many as we can in a few short days, and forget them. It's not everyone's style, but works for us. So here was our trip.
Day 1 - Get into Cartagena mid-afternoon, change a $100 at the currency exchange just to have a few pesos ($2,600 exchange) and hop a taxi to our hotel, Torre de Reloj. We love to be as close to the action as possible, and the clock tower is ground zero for chicas, so with balconies looking out onto the square, it doesn't get any better. Rates were high at around US $90 a night, but it was only for 2-nights so we didn't mind. Third floor rooms with no elevator kind of sucked, but the rooms were decent. We took chicas in and out of the hotel no problem, they kept their ID's until they left, but at checkout they tried to charge us a whopping $90,000 COP per chica fee, which we argued like crazy. The guy at checkout we had not seen the whole trip, and he insisted we were told this from the beginning. We refused to pay it but are watching the credit card to see if they bill it through there. If they do, we will dispute the charges. Fuckers!
Anyhow. We change more money at the exchange next to the hotel where we get $2,700 rate. Have dinner at a nice restaurant in Boca Grande and back to the hotel where we walk the town and check the scene. It was still a bit early for the chicas so we explore and eventually hang at the bar area in front of the Hard Rock until the girls start to roll in around 11 ish. We walk the area some more and eventually I grab a tall spinner from Cali. Asks for $250 k but we agree to 2-hours for $200 k. My buddy grabs a chica also and we all head up to the rooftop bar of the hotel for some drinks. My friends chica is much more fun and personable than my girl, who was all business. I finally take her to the room and after a shower we look to start the action, and she tells me she doesn't have any condoms. I almost threw her out of the room but as a last ditch effort, I go to my buddy's room next door where his chica has condoms so I bum one. I almost started a double team with his girl but I go back and get my first nut out with my chica and send her packing. What a dud! We have to be up early the next day so I call it a night and don't bother going back down again, first night was a bit disappointing.
Day 2- We have a commitment that takes up our whole day, but by 8 pm we are back at the hotel. Get showered and grab dinner, and somehow my buddy runs into his girl from the night before. He likes her so agrees to go for another round, she knows I had a crap time the night before so she texts one of her friends to come to the hotel. About 15-minutes later her friend shows up, she is 20 and a cute "girl next door" type looks but a tiger in bed. Great DFK, BBBJ, passionate chick. Finally Colombia is on the rebound. Later I find out my buddy had a threesome with his girlfriend and another of her friends, full GFE, PSE, girls snorting lines off his dick, fucked both in the ass, the works! He said it was one of the best threesomes of his life, and he has had plenty over the years, believe me. After we chill for a bit and recover, we head down to Isis strip club to check the scene, we had a beer or two but it's the typical clip joint for American tourists, I don't remember the prices but I think beers were around $20 k and girls were $300-400 k COP I think. We leave and head to Dolce Vita. I liked this place a lot, probably because it had A/C! Cartagena is hot as fuck, and I felt like I was sweating my ass off everywhere I went. We hang for a good hour and have several rounds of drinks, I grab a gorgeous blonde in a sexy white outfit and get her a few drinks. My initial impression was this was a freelance bar, where girls would go back and forth between here and the clock tower. Apparently I was wrong, and the girls at Dolce Vita work for the club only. I agree to $200 k for my girl and upon leaving, they try to get me to pay a $100 k exit fee. I refuse to pay and tell her forget it, I will find someone else outside the club and basically walk out. She talks to the bartender briefly and runs after me, basically saying we consumed enough alcohol while we were there that the club will let her leave without an exit fee. Whatever. Anyhow, we go back to the hotel and she was awesome, even better than the previous girl. Great DFK & BBBJ, only disappointment is no anal.
Later we head back down again and walk around a bit to check the scene. We stray away from the clock tower and end up down the block somewhere, eventually smoking some weed with some skanky chicas on the corner. One of them convinces my friend he can fuck her up the ass for $100 k so he agrees to take her back, so I reluctantly end up with her friend. She was actually cuter than my buddy's girl but said "no cula" for her but BBBJ no problem. My girl was pretty good actually but my friends girl sucked, no BBBJ, no anal, and my friend threw her out without even fucking her. Hey, it's cool if you don't do BBBJ or anal, but don't promise it on the street and then get to the room and refuse. WTF?! We call it a night as its already around 4 am and we have to be at the airport to catch our flight to Medellin by 7 am so we only get about 2-hours sleep.
Overall Cartagena is beautiful but hot as fuck! It's so hot and humid I was generally uncomfortable the entire time outdoors, even at night. There is a wealth of talent at the clock tower but it's hard to determine chemistry with the chica in this setting, kind of like a Casa it's a "grab and go" type environment. If you approach one girl in a group of 3 or 4 the others will scatter like cockroaches, it's kind of funny actually. Thursday night around 1 am I counted around 70 girls in the square and even at 4 am there were still 30-40 around, I can only imagine what the place is like on the weekends. Dolce Vita I liked better because you can have a drink and socialize to get a better connection with the chica before committing to her, but to each his own. Overall I would not go back to Cartagena as a mongering destination, too touristy, inflated prices and too fucking HOT!
Day 3 - Medellin at last! Been dying to go here for years, and finally here after a short 1-hour flight from Cartagena. Staying at the Mansion 2 and they arrange a driver to pick us up for $75 k. Fernando was waiting when we arrived. I walked out of the airport and the weather was perfect, low 70's, no humidity and a slight chill in the air. I was in heaven. Shortly afterwards I discover the airport is a good 2,000 ft higher than the city, it's at 7,000 ft and the city is 4,900 ft, so it's much cooler here, damn it. Anyhow, Medellin is warmer but overall comfortable, nothing like Cartagena. We get to the hotel around noon but our rooms won't be ready till 4 pm. We grabbed our cash and passports, left our bags with the office, and walked down Poblado avenue to the outdoor complex to the currency exchange (2,750 was the best exchange rate we got) and pretty decent since the current rate was 2,900. We changed some cash and walked to Santa Fe mall across the street, awesome 5-story shopping mall. I felt like I was back in the states. Walked to Hard Rock and had lunch and watched a World Cup game, then back to the hotel and got settled. Freshened up and grabbed a cab down to Centro as I was dying to hit some Casas. I did my homework before the trip and knew there were 5 Casas within walking distance of each other, and located them on Google Earth "street view" so I knew exactly what they looked like and could navigate the area comfortably.
First up was New Life. Decent lineup with around 15 girls, my scale was 5 to maybe 7. 5. It's hard to remember all the girls names so after they introduce themselves one at a time we ask for a full lineup. I grab a dirty blonde Paisa looking chic who seemed like a nice personality and off we go. Decent enough room, a bit warm with a wall fan but clean and has its own bathroom and shower. Now this being my first time in a Casa, once we get in the room I tell her (in Spanish) I want a full hour, do I have to pay now or later? "Quiero un hora, tengo que pagar ahora or despues? She basically tells me $100 k which I replied its only $80 k for the hour, the rest was propina. OK fine, I give her $100 k and we have a good session, a crappy 10-second BBBJ but aside from that she was good. After the session and a shower we leave the room and I go to the window to pay for the drinks I ordered earlier. The bill is like $120 k and I tell them I gave the girl $100 k already. Now she is telling the manager the $100 k was propina for her and I have to pay the regular tab. I get fucking pissed! One of the working girls comes over and translates, her English was really good actually, and I explained what happened. She said the girl is telling her I agreed to pay her $100 k for BBBJ, which I said was ridiculous, why would I pay $80 k for an hour fuck and $100 k for a BBBJ, that is outrageous, "Not really, I charge $50 k" she says. Anyhow, after a 5-10 minute heated exchange, we agree the girl will pay the $80 k from the $100 k I gave her, I paid the balance of the tab for the drinks, and gave the girl an additional $30 k, so she ended up with a $50 k propina. Before leaving the Manager apologized to my friend and asked him to tell me it won't happen again, please come back. A word to the wise, in the Casa, pay the Manager directly afterwards, do not pay the girl directly! Anything you give her is considered propina. These fucking girls are hustlers, it's a tough life so I guess I can't blame them. I feel management handled it well but regardless it left a bad taste in my mouth and I didn't go back.
Anyhow, we grab a drink at the Cafateria on the corner of Cra. 45 & 56 to recover some, then right across the street to checkout Coffee Shop which is the casa in the brick building that says "Bliss Suite Hotel. " It's on the ground floor but the place is a dive, 6-7 girls but nothing we liked so we passed. By this time it was around 6:30 and I knew most of the places close around 7-8 pm so we hurry down the street to Aiffe. A bit better than Coffee Shop but not as nice as New Life, 7-8 girls and there was a super tall chic in red lingerie that caught my attention, she had to be close to 6 ft with no heels and she had on huge glasses that made her look like Wonder Woman. I had to have her! She told me she was from Medellin but later admitted she was from Venezuela. Nothing special in the bedroom, no BBBJ but nice eye candy in all positions. I suspect she would be a better performer if I caught her fresh but I know it's the end of the day and I'm starting to take longer to cum now so she earned her cash for sure. I gave her a $20 k propina.
I'm not sure if I have the name correct but we head down to Club de Amigas on Carrera 45, #57-55. This was a pleasant surprise, they had probably 10-12 girls, 2-3 were fuggly as fuck, but there were 2 that I really liked, one was a 7 and one was a 8 on my scale. I really wanted to session with them but no way could I fuck after my last session with no recovery time. It was around 7:30 ish and they were almost closing so we said we would come back. We scurry down to Sexy Amiga's, again not sure if I have the name correct but the one on 45 the #57-67 but it was closed. We grab a cab back to the hotel and check the Mansion cave. At least 2 guys to every girl there and most of the chicas were paired up already, I don't see anything of interest and I'm exhausted so call it an early night and head back to Mansion 2 and crash. The next morning I find out my friend had Robert at Mansion 2 call a girl for him, I think he did a todo la noche but can't remember.
Day 4 - I'm up early and glad I got a good night sleep to recover, the girl makes me some eggs, toast, fruit & fresh orange juice for breakfast, and I relax and check emails till my friend is ready. We grab a cab down to Santo Domingo metro station to take the cable cars up to the top of the mountain, it was a nice experience. Oddly we have to pay for the tickets, take the cable car up to one stop, get out and make a long line to pay for another set of tickets to the top. Why can't we pay for both sets at once? Anyhow, at the top they have a few vendors and a park, we hang out for a bit and head back down (again having to pay for the tickets at both stops.) Grab a cab to Centro as I wanted to check the strip clubs, we hit Maracaibo & Ejectiva, but both are closed because it's too early, so we take a walk to check the street action. We walk down to Calle 55 over to Park Bolivar, stopping at a bar / restaurant along the way to watch the Germany / Sweden game. Not a lot of action at this time, we walk back up from Bolivar on Calle 56 then back to Carrera 50. A few girls were across the street that looked hot as fuck, but my friend felt "shy" about talking to the girls in the street with everyone walking by and starring so we didn't cross over. What a pussy, he's embarrassed to buy Viagra in the pharmacies so always makes me do it, LOL. Anyway, we walked down Calle 55 for a block till we saw a huge tranny, he had to be 6'2" at least, and I said owww shit, I think this is the same dude I saw on Google Earth Street View in the same area. Go to street view and check Calle 55 just west of Carrera 50 and you will see a HUGE tranny in a blue dress. LOL. Notice how much bigger she is than the guy walking past her. Well she is even bigger in person. LMAO. Anyhow, we crossed the street and walked back to 53 to check Ejectiva again, still closed. So we walk down to Calle 53 to Conejitas Strip Club that had just opened. Dude, this place sucked! There were at least 60 guys in here and 5 girls at best. Maybe it was because it was so early but we had two beers each and left.
Time to check the street action! So we walk through Parke Botero, past the statues and the pay phones and hang a right at the church, a granny or two but nothing really. It's a Saturday and early afternoon so I guess we can't expect much. We hang a right on Carrera 53 and I got that little pump of adrenaline, you know when you get that rush because you have been anticipating this experience for a while now. LOL. So we walk down 53 for a block, cross the street at the park and walk back on the other side. Man this place is crowded as fuck, but not a lot of girls around. We cross the street again basically making a full circle, and walk the same block again. There are a couple girls hanging in a few doorways but everything I saw was a 4 at best. Nothing we see that we like. Okay, let's go check De Grieffe I tell my friend. He is blown away that I know where all this shit is. LOL. So we walk up to Calle 53, pass the Excalibur Casino and down to Bienvenidos bar for a drink. The best looking street talent we have seen so far is in the doorway right in front of us, 3 girls, all very doable. Just like watching porn, you are never happy with what you are watching right now, you have to change the channel to see what else is on, well same situation here. I say let's walk the area to check the talent so we pass for now and walk a block down Carrera 54 before crossing the street and doubling back on the other side. We round the corner back on CL. 53, there is one girl with talent but we decide to go back to the girls we saw earlier, so we cross the street again and go back. We both pick our girls who asked for $50 k each plus $16 k for the room, (a whopping US $24) we didn't bother negotiating and accepted, and off we go. Rooms were better than I was expecting, my girl was from Bogota and had a killer body, but she was kind of cold. No BBBJ, even offered her $20 k propina and she refused which was disappointing, you would think the street girls would be more willing to do extras, but oww well, it's not a deal breaker for me. I like them to start in cowgirl for a while, flip them over to doggie and finish in mish. I pounded the shit out of her in doggie and kept playing with her ass. It was funny cause she kept flinching and moving my hand away but after a while I could tell she started to enjoy it and eventually let me get a fingertip in her ass while I was pounding her. LOL, a small victory for me. Finish in mish, damn its getting hard to cum now, take a quick shower and off we go. We walk back to Maracaibo which is now open, they only had a few girls but my friend liked one so we stayed and had a few drinks. Eventually I convince him to split and check out Ejectiva next door. Much more girls and nicer atmosphere all around. It was Saturday evening now and we can see the girls starting to trickle in. We relax for a few hours and drink, by about 9-10 pm I am horny again and ready to go. I had my eye on a really cute Paisa with a peach top for most of the evening but she got taken by another dude. I end up grabbing a sexy little blonde paisa with a 9 body and 8 face, best fuck of the trip for me. We go upstairs for $80 k, its funny because the doorway to the rooms upstairs is actually hidden in the toilet stall of the men's bathroom. LOL. This girl rocks my world! BBBJ was to die for, passionate, and likes it up the ass! I hit the jackpot. She asks for $100 k propina for anal, I counter at $50 k and we settle for $70 k. What is that, like $30 for sex and an extra $25 tip for anal. This chick would be $500 an hour in Miami for straight sex, and I'm fucking her up the ass for less than $60! Medellin rocks! Damn I fucked this girl till I was blue in the face, I couldn't cum even fucking her in the ass. I had her switch back to cowgirl to give me a break before finally going back to doggie and eventually finishing in mish. Holy shit, what a workout! No showers here, the room is stuffy and the guy was knocking on the door for the past 15 minutes but I need another 5 to cool off in front of the fan before getting dressed and heading back down stairs. My friend waits for me to get back before he takes a girl upstairs, when he is done we eventually leave and head to Parke Lleras for dinner. We bought dinner for the cab driver too, why not. Afterwards we head to the Mansion cave. We check the bar again but it's the same story, sausage fest with a lot of guys, most of the girls are paired up already with only 2-3 available, but no way either of us can fuck again so we pass and head back to the room and crash.
Day 5 Its Sunday and Colombia is playing Poland in the World Cup at 1 pm. We are psyched to watch the game in Medellin. Have the same breakfast and want to go by the stadium to watch the game. Of course I know Energy casa is right next to the stadium so the plan was to get one pop before the game so we get there early. Their website says they are open on Sundays but I guess with the game they were closed, which was disappointing. We walk back to the stadium and watch the game at a bar / restaurant right next to the big screen they had outside the stadium. Great game that Colombia won 3-0, great atmosphere and everyone was happy. Afterwards we go back to Energy just to check again, but they were still closed damn it. Oww well. I know most of the Casas are closed and most of the strip clubs don't open till later, so we grab a cab to Luna Lunera as I heard this joint was 24 hours. We get there and no customers and a whopping 2 girls, one was a 5 and the other a 6 on my scale. We feel pretty desperate so after a round of $20 k Coronas we take the girls to the room, I can't remember exactly but I think it was $170 k for an hour. Rooms were very nice and clean, but both girls were duds and we should have gotten a half hour instead. Bunch of veterans making Rookie mistakes. My chic had the worst boob job I have ever seen. Scars that went around her nipples, down the seam of her boobs and underneath the cup. Usually you would see a scar in one of these locations, but never in all three. Anyway, after a crappy, robotic fuck we head back to the hotel to relax for a while before heading to Parke Lleras for dinner again. We have a decent dinner, spotted one working girl who insisted she was not working but wanted to join us for dinner, LOL, but we pass. We walk around afterwards and have a few drinks at one of the bars, people were still celebrating the Colombia victory earlier today. This scene reminded me of my college days, it was cool but I'm not 25 and single anymore. We decide to split, I want to try Fase II but my buddy wants to go back to Ejectiva as he wants to fuck the girl I had the previous night. LOL. So we go back but she wasn't there, we hang out for a while and I spot the girl I wanted to take the night before. She was pretty easy to identify because she is wearing the same peach top as yesterday, LOL. We call her over and she hangs out, we buy her a few drinks and my friend wants to take girls back to the hotel. We ask her to point out some of her friends who she knows well and is comfortable with, so we select the best one and negotiate a todo la noche. It was an $80 k exit fee per girl, and we gave them $150 k each. They tried to get us to pay the bar the full $230 k upfront but I refused and said I would give the bar $80 k and pay them the rest at the hotel. I should have paid more attention to this red flag as these girls were awful! I thought the Luna Lunera chicks were bad, these girls didn't want to party, wanted to fuck in separate rooms, wouldn't let us switch off even for extra propina, I mean WTF? Are these girls hookers or not? Anyway, I get my nut out with my chick, we go back to my friends room and hang out for a little while, and I decide to crash about an hour later. The next day my friend said he stayed with them for about another hour after I crashed and sent them off.
Day 6 last day here so we have to make it count. Have the usual breakfast, watch a World Cup game, then off for a Pablo Escobar tour. Instead of an official tour, Robert arranged a bilingual driver to take us around, which was better IMO. We went to the building that the Cali Cartel bombed to try and kill his family, the Cathedral prison he built for himself up in the mountains, and his grave site. Another touristy area that had a nice view, overall it was ok, not that much to see but it was nice just to drive around the city. We spend about 4-hours with him and I think he charged $30 k per hour, so we paid him $150 k with tip if memory serves. It was getting late and we have pussy to fuck, so we have the driver (can't remember his name) drop us off at Energy by the stadium. Damn they got a nice lineup of around 15 girls, 2-3 were 5's on my scale but most were 7-8. I pick a classic looking paisa chic as you should know by now I like these types of girls, and up to the room. Awesome rooms, I grab a quick shower. The girl makes a half ass attempt at a massage, condom blowjob and another robotic fuck. Man, I'm really picking the dudes this trip. I know I lost a few steps and put on a few pounds these last few years, but I used to do much better with the chicas. Anyway. When I flip her over to mish the girl has a skanky smelling pussy and that just kills my heart on. I quickly flip her back to doggie and concentrate like hell to get my first nut of the day out. I grab another quick shower and back to the waiting room for a good 20-minutes waiting for by friend to finish. He had an awesome experience and really liked the place, he said best place we had been to by far. We head out and grab some food in the area, then back to the hotel to freshen up. Early evening and we check the Cave again but again nothing of interest so we finally head to Fase II. $20 K cover and beers are $20 k each, damn we dropped $80 k and had only been here 5-minutes. Girls were smoking hot though, there were two I would rate at a 6 but the others were 8's and a few 9's by my scale, Victoria Secret models. There were probably 15+ girls and maybe 10-15 customers, but every single girl was glued to her phone. One of the 9's danced on stage for 2 songs then walked around for tips afterwards, I gave her a $10 k tip and told her to come back and see us when she was finished, but she never did. I think two other girls danced on stage for the hour or so we stayed there, and we eventually left. I love a top shelf girl as much as the next guy, but if they were this disinterested while working, I imagine they would be even worse in bed. I'the rather a 7 girl who rocks in the bedroom than a 9 who's a robot. Anyhow, we caught a cab to San Diego strip club which was just down the road. Mostly 6's but one or two 7's & 8's and much more aggressive and personable, the girls actually try to get your attention. Problem was I did a few bumps in the bathroom and my dick was passed out so there was no way I could fuck right now. My friend grabbed a girl and took her upstairs and I hung out til he was done. Afterwards went back to Ejectiva hoping I could find the cula girl I fucked the first night I was there, but she wasn't working again, so I grabbed a girl I had seen the previous few nights. She was a little energizer bunny, awesome fuck, everything except she wouldn't let me fuck her in the ass, but totally accommodating. Afterwards she even checked my socks and turned my underwear right side out again that is how accommodating she was, reminded me of an Asian chic at the massage parlors. Usually the Latinas are not that obliging. Gave her a $20 k tip and $10 k to the security guy as we were there for a good hour and the place was closed. When I got downstairs the place was empty and my buddy was there waiting. Cab back to the hotel and our trip was done, packed and had to be at the airport by 7 am to catch a 9 am flight to Miami.
Overall observations Cartagena is too touristy and hot as fuck! I think the same thing of Jaco in Costa Rica so if that is your thing, you may enjoy it. Medellin is a beautiful city, great climate and awesome people. The people are extremely friendly and polite everywhere you go, one example is Colombia is the first Latin culture I have experienced where they don't blow their car horns 24/7 as its considered rude. Poblado felt like being in Miami with the shops and restaurants, and I never felt threatened or unsafe, even walking the Centro streets in areas where gringos typically don't venture. Granted I would not feel comfortable walking some of these areas at night, but during the day I had no issues.
Mansion was a nice operation and I can't say enough good things about the staff. Even at Mansion 2 they have someone in the office 24/7 to help you with anything you need, whether its calling you a taxi, ordering food for you, arranging a tour, getting you Viagra, or ordering you a girl late night. The last night at 7:55 pm we realized we were low on cash, Robert says the currency exchange closes in 5 minutes, he drops what he is doing and drives us down there personally so we make it before closing. If it's your first trip to Colombia, I would highly recommend them. I was a bit disappointed with the quantity of girls in the Cave at Mansion but we never hung around there for more than an hour, and I think we kept going at odd times when things were slow. It's not a place like Del Rey in Costa Rica that you can grab a girl for a quickie whenever you want, its more GFE and most of the guys we met there were single and networking most of their chicas on FB. In hindsight I wish I had grabbed a girl from Fase II, and we never made it to Loutron which I wanted to try at least once. Overall we got the full buffet of street girls, casas, strip clubs and at least my friend hit a Mansion chica to round things off. As always, YMMV, you can find total duds and great GFE / PSE girls at any location and at any price range, so going high end does not guarantee a great experience, nor does low end guarantee a poor one. Cash wise this was the cheapest trip we ever made, we normally travel with $3-4 k each per trip, and spend every last dollar no matter how much we have. I think I spend $2,000 - $2,500 including hotel. Campo Alegre in Curacao is also cheap as hell, US $30 per girl with a huge selection of Colombian and Dominican chicas, but the rest of the island is expensive so you will pay more for meals, hotel, rental car, etc. Whereby all of this was very cheap in Medellin. Cab rides were $15-20 k from Poblado to Centro and always metered, some of the drivers don't know how to find the addresses but from a safety perspective there was never any issues.
Below was the homework I did on Medellin before my trip. I took a screen shot and saved it as my wallpaper on my phone so I always had the addresses handy. If you want to hit Casas or street action I strongly recommend scouting the locations on google earth street view to get familiar with your surroundings. Hopefully this info is useful for my fellow mongers.
1. Mansion. Carrera 43 #2 Sur 50 Poblado. (girls $150 k).
Mansion 2 - Carrera 38 #2 Sur 151.
2. Loutron. Calle 16 a Sur #500. ($10 k cover, $160-210 k).
3. Faze II. Carrera 44 #30-15. ($190 k on site).
4. Luna Lunera. Avenida 33 #63 be 215. ($150 k on site).
5. Fantasia Energy. Carrera 74 #101. ($130-150 k).
6. Relax / Tantra Massage. Carrera 80 #44 be 139.
7. Coffee Shop. Carrera 45. #55-45. ($40-70 K).
8. New Life. Calle 56 #49-39. ($50-80 k).
9. Aiffe. Calle 57 #43-27. ($40-70 k).
10. Club de Amigas. Carrera 45 # 57-55. ($40-70 k).
11. Club de Amigas Sexy. Carrera 45 the, #57-67. ($50-80 k).
12. Barra Ejectiva. Calle 53 48-20. ($80 k +-).
13. Maracaibo. Calle 53 #49-30. ($80 k +-).
14. Conejitas. Calle 53 #51-41. ($80 k +-).
15. Centro street girls. Carrera 53 & Calle 51. ($30 k +-).
Did you see her before paying or after? If you saw her at the door before you paid, why didn't you just say to her that she looked nothing like her photo and leave?
On some occasion my whatsapp came a picture of a very beautiful woman, when I arrived in Medellin look for scorts in "mileroticos" and surprise. It was her, the beautiful woman. All the services included. But there was something that generated distrust, price $ 80 COP x 30 min (a scort of that level and economic).
She has an apartment to receive the clients, she is located in the Poblado, we agreed and when she opened she noticed that many girls work there.
The face was not the same, if it was her but the face was ugly and fat. We entered the room and I felt ripped off: No BBBJ, no 69, no different positions, no kisses and dead cow. Bad sex. Regular vaginal for 30 min and I decided to leave.
Experience: not all beautiful girls are good sex or GFE, this time I lost.
Attached video. I hope you like it.
I understand that you don't care what I think, and of course you may spend your money how you please. But there are other mongers that may want to come to Colombia and not get ripped off. So consider my response for them. Not sure why people get offended when another monger tries to pull his coat tail. I thought that is what the board was for.I never quite understood the argument on these mongering boards that what one guy pays his hookers is going to affect what the rest of us pay. I'm guess that you feel like the hookers will ask more after being "spoiled" by senior deep pockets. Well, they can ask for whatever they want, but you are not obligated to pay it. Do you understand what I'm saying? You can say no, and find somebody else who will accept your offer. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of working women in Medellin, I'm sure he won't spoil all of them. LOL.
Americans, in general, are very flashy. We love to show off. I remember on my very first trip to Costa Rica over 10 years ago, I showed pics of my car to some random hooker to try to impress her. (It was a 1989 Honda Civic. It wasn't but that would be sad). So I don't discount the possibility that the guys who overpay do so knowingly to try to win favor / impress / whatever you want to call it with the girls.
1. I received several PMs asking me to share the women I found on SA. I won't do so without checking with the women. However, that would be a monumental task with my less than stellar Spanish. Most of the women have some sort of screening process, albeit very casual. For the most part, the arrangements I made have been cultivated after chatting a while over one day to a few days.
I don't know if I can name the US forum board here, but there's a humongous discussion on SA that started within the last few months. Much of it is baloney and doesn't readily apply to Colombia, but there's some helpful info. PM for the name of the board unless I'm allowed to name it here. And I will be happy to share my thoughts / tips on SA here, though I am far from an expert.
2. I apologize to Mr. E for taking issue with his remarks. However, the tone of the message seemed a bit harsh to me.
3. For the most part, I appreciate the remarks. Support as well as criticisms. I take the suggestions seriously, the ones about prices.
4. I will do a part 2 of my trip when I finish. Suffice to say, I am having a great time. This is my type of vacation. Mixing adventure, I. E. , mountain biking, hiking, sight-seeing, learning the culture and of course, the women. I have found a woman to accompany me on most of my excursions. With some, there was no sex and that was okay. I didn't pay anything except expenses. It was helpful to have someone with me that spoke fluent Spanish as well as English and to have company.
Manizales911
07-07-18, 15:34
1. I received several PMs asking me to share the women I found on SA. I won't do so without checking with the women. However, that would be a monumental task with my less than stellar Spanish. Most of the women have some sort of screening process, albeit very casual. For the most part, the arrangements I made have been cultivated after chatting a while over one day to a few days.
I don't know if I can name the US forum board here, but there's a humongous discussion on SA that started within the last few months. Much of it is baloney and doesn't readily apply to Colombia, but there's some helpful info. PM for the name of the board unless I'm allowed to name it here. And I will be happy to share my thoughts / tips on SA here, though I am far from an expert.
2. I apologize to Mr. E for taking issue with his remarks. However, the tone of the message seemed a bit harsh to me.
3. For the most part, I appreciate the remarks. Support as well as criticisms. I take the suggestions seriously, the ones about prices.
4. I will do a part 2 of my trip when I finish. Suffice to say, I am having a great time. This is my type of vacation. Mixing adventure, I. E. , mountain biking, hiking, sight-seeing, learning the culture and of course, the women. I have found a woman to accompany me on most of my excursions. With some, there was no sex and that was okay. I didn't pay anything except expenses. It was helpful to have someone with me that spoke fluent Spanish as well as English and to have company.I have used SA in the USA, Colombia and the DR and have had great success. It is not for everyone because it is time consuming, I am retired and have plenty of time on my hands. Some of my best experiences with girls have come from SA. The one piece of advise I would give anyone using SA is to at some point when chatting with a potential hook up is to bring up sex otherwise as you have found out you may end up on a real date and not get any sex on the first meeting. There are girls on SA that think SA is a regular dating site, the USA Girls not so much but I have run into many naive girls from both the DR and Colombia.
This is as much common sense as it is market dynamics. As I wrote before, no one honestly believes their aren't plenty of guys paying way above market rates but the market is not overheated. This is because supply far exceeds the demand of guys who pay at, below, and above market rates.
In a closed market like one of the gringo hotels or seeking arrangement, the demand can sometimes exceed the supply. Loutron, for example, keeps its market closed by being isolated from other casas. They would have a harder time getting their rate if you could walk to a competitor in less than 5 minutes. It is the same concept that explains why a bottle of water in an airport shop costs so much more than it does outside the closed market of the airport concourse. There is huge demand but a limited supply among very few providers.
I'm not up to speed on economics, but I can't see how 1 person, overpaying slightly 5 to 10 girls is going to raise the rates of 40,000 prepagos.
In the real world, it is the ratio of available cars of any certain class to the number of buyers that determines pricing levels and the willingness of buyers to pay them. It's known as market economics. As in any quantitative system, there are outliers (e. G. Buyers willing to pay above market rates). Outliers by definition are grossly outnumbered, rendering their impact on a market negligible. Seeking Arrangement, mansion, etc are not the same market as mileroticos, Centro casas, or facebook bunnies. Any girl in a mileroticos, Centro or facebook market who demands a rate from a different market will be denied more often than not-until she gets an outlier. Outliers don't move markets. Emotion driven decision making in financial markets (yes, mongering is a financial market) creates outliers, but again, outliers don't move markets. So back to girls, this is not the bloody Financial Times after all.
A better one. Lets say your fellow car buyers are paying more than the asking price. Now the car dealers are going to think the asking price is too low. So your competition is unintentionally jacking up the prices.
That's what this whole topic is about. Guys are giving more than is asked or are ignorant of the going rates. That's what this board is for: to find out the who, what, where and how much.
Guys that throw money around without regard to the local market will eventually reck it. Over tipping is a different matter but can also kill the fun of others. Usually when you over tip the girl they will say nothing or a simple thank you. This is because they think you made a mistake w / the local currency and don't want to alert you to it. Over tipping is stupid but we all do it (at times) because we get too happy I guess.
There should be unity about this. You want high end, go high end. You want to bottom fish you know where to go.
I like your style.
1. I received several PMs asking me to share the women I found on SA. I won't do so without checking with the women. However, that would be a monumental task with my less than stellar Spanish. Most of the women have some sort of screening process, albeit very casual. For the most part, the arrangements I made have been cultivated after chatting a while over one day to a few days.
I don't know if I can name the US forum board here, but there's a humongous discussion on SA that started within the last few months. Much of it is baloney and doesn't readily apply to Colombia, but there's some helpful info. PM for the name of the board unless I'm allowed to name it here. And I will be happy to share my thoughts / tips on SA here, though I am far from an expert.
2. I apologize to Mr. E for taking issue with his remarks. However, the tone of the message seemed a bit harsh to me.
3. For the most part, I appreciate the remarks. Support as well as criticisms. I take the suggestions seriously, the ones about prices..
Excellent report, honest, fair, and informative. It's clear you and your friend are experienced. Thank you for sharing.
Had a great first trip to Colombia mid-June for 6-days, two in Cartagena and four in Medellin. My buddy and I are experienced mongers having been to Costa Rica, Panama, DR, St. Maarten, Curacao, multiple times over the past decade, Colombia has been high on our list of destinations but we have not been able to pull it off until now. It was worth the wait and can't wait to go again.
A little background, I am early 40's, gringo with basic to conversational Spanish, by friend is early 50's, Latin with fluent Spanish. We are both married so not interested in networking on Facebook, Tinder or Colombian Cupid, lining up GF Chicas and building a contact list for future trips. We are in-and-out, fuck as many as we can in a few short days, and forget them. It's not everyone's style, but works for us. So here was our trip..
Black Page
07-07-18, 20:08
I've been on the site long enough and see the same argument. Overpaying is ruining it for everyone. I think that's baloney.You really don't get it?
Sure, you are free to pay whatever you like, and you will not move the market spreading your bills. I think nobody intended to argue that really.
However, the important point is that, while everyone is welcome to post his experience here (and of course should be open to negative as well positive comments, most of the time courteous), senior members who have spent years on site have not only the right to express criticism, if they feel so, but even the moral obligation towards the 90% of the readers, who have no experience on site, to warn when something not advisable is reported.
In your case, 400 k is the price that one is expected to pay when pulling out a stripper from a high-class club for an overnight, and I am not sure it would be justified anyway. First-class girls in Medellin cost 200 k, and usually that includes some dinner or club time before the deed. If a girl is not a hard-core pro with an agenda full of appointments hour after hour (but I don't understand those who are interested to that kind of well-known pornstar-like stars), she will be happy to enjoy some time with the man, preparing the chemistry to the sex.
200k is the price that one should expect to pay with a very nice girl, without much negotiation, and I am not speaking about cheap experiences with street girls.
The aim of those who commented your post, me included, was solely warning people who do not know, not "scolding" you. You are not a little boy. I hope you will enjoy even more your next stay.
If guys are sensitive to comments on their spending habits, then maybe they shouldn't post their expenditures. It can always be revealed in PM.
Aren't we here to discuss and learn? If your not able to handle opinions and criticism whether constructive or otherwise, that's unfortunate.
I don't mind contributors posting what they pay because I know who has negotiation skills and who doesn't get it.
Everyone wants a great deal and your a liar if you don't.
BTW, Tipping is still a city in China IMO, LOL.
1. I received several PMs asking me to share the women I found on SA. I won't do so without checking with the women. However, that would be a monumental task with my less than stellar Spanish. Most of the women have some sort of screening process, albeit very casual. For the most part, the arrangements I made have been cultivated after chatting a while over one day to a few days.
You could post links to their ads or their SA user names. That's all public info anyway.
Day 3 - Medellin at last! Been dying to go here for years, and finally here after a short 1-hour flight from Cartagena. Staying at the Mansion 2 and they arrange a driver to pick us up for $75 k. Fernando was waiting when we arrived. I walked out of the airport and the weather was perfect, low 70's, no humidity and a slight chill in the air. I was in heaven. Shortly afterwards I discover the airport is a good 2,000 ft higher than the city, it's at 7,000 ft and the city is 4,900 ft, so it's much cooler here, damn it. Anyhow, Medellin is warmer but overall comfortable, nothing like Cartagena. We get to the hotel around noon but our rooms won't be ready till 4 pm. We grabbed our cash and passports, left our bags with the office, and walked down Poblado avenue to the outdoor complex to the currency exchange (2,750 was the best exchange rate we got) and pretty decent since the current rate was 2,900. We changed some cash and walked to Santa Fe mall across the street, awesome 5-story shopping mall. I felt like I was back in the states. Walked to Hard Rock and had lunch and watched a World Cup game, then back to the hotel and got settled. Freshened up and grabbed a cab down to Centro as I was dying to hit some Casas. I did my homework before the trip and knew there were 5 Casas within walking distance of each other, and located them on Google Earth "street view" so I knew exactly what they looked like and could navigate the area comfortably..Nice report!
I also had a bad visit my one time to Energy. However my New Life girl wouldn't let me pay her, told me to pay at the desk on the way out, some of them are honest anyway. I have yet to have a Medellin girl with any bad odor and I have been down on a few, my condolences on your Energy girl.
If you go back give Conejitas a few tries at different times. I have been in and out of the main 3 Centro clubs a lot in the last year and while Conejitas has a lower avg hottness, their A Team girls when they are there will usually be the hottess in the Centro strip clubs. Barra Ejective usually has more 6-7's but Conejitas sometime has some 8+'s. And Conejitas rooms are much nice then those dark sweat boxes Barra Ejectiva has, I even like Maracaibo's tiny rooms better then BE's.
And the redlight blocks need several laps a day to find something, that's why I stay close to there hotel-wise. Behind the Vera Cruz white church has occasional cuties 30 k, the DeGreiff and carr54 block will have usually / ocaasionally some hotter ones for 50 k+. My fav girl in 4 trips of 6 days each was a Vera Cruz street girl who was cool, hot, chill, horny and fun, gave her 80 k for about 4 hours in my room.
Conejitas girls I have met:
MedellinGringo
07-08-18, 18:57
Nice report!
However my New Life girl wouldn't let me pay her, told me to pay at the desk on the way out, some of them are honest anyway.
I didn't think it was even possible to get ripped off at a casa.
What would have happened if you paid her instead of the front desk?
I didn't think it was even possible to get ripped off at a casa.
What would have happened if you paid her instead of the front desk?Well according to the report I was responding to, she keeps it as a tip and then you still owe the whole amount to the desk. Not sure if they had a communication issue or she was trying to rip him off though.
El Mechanico
07-08-18, 22:39
Do not session with either of these two, they are absolutely useless. If I knew what f-ing a dead fish was like I would say I could get more pleasure out of f-ing a dead fish!. Waste of time effort and money, bad attitude, no enthusiasm, late, etc. Etc. Etc. , everything hurts, blah blah blah.
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El Mechanico.
Do not session with either of these two, they are absolutely useless. If I knew what f-ing a dead fish was like I would say I could get more pleasure out of f-ing a dead fish!. Waste of time effort and money, bad attitude, no enthusiasm, late, etc. Etc. Etc. , everything hurts, blah blah blah.
https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/antioquia/medellin/el-poblado/hermosa-escort-nueva-modelo-a-la-espera-de-complacerte-id-ann5r
https://m.co.mileroticos.com/escorts/luisa-80-una-hora-todos-los-servicios-ilimitados/10899289/
El Mechanico.Damn, that's too bad, Sofy was on my radar too, does she least look as hot in person?
Do not session with either of these two, they are absolutely useless. If I knew what f-ing a dead fish was like I would say I could get more pleasure out of f-ing a dead fish!. Waste of time effort and money, bad attitude, no enthusiasm, late, etc. Etc. Etc. , everything hurts, blah blah blah.
https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/antioquia/medellin/el-poblado/hermosa-escort-nueva-modelo-a-la-espera-de-complacerte-id-ann5r
https://m.co.mileroticos.com/escorts/luisa-80-una-hora-todos-los-servicios-ilimitados/10899289/
El Mechanico.Sorry you got burned, one question though, the girl from photoprepagos, is she really the girl in the photos? I've always thought that mileroticos and photoprepagos were full of bait and switch.
El Mechanico
07-09-18, 00:26
Sorry you got burned, one question though, the girl from photoprepagos, is she really the girl in the photos? I've always thought that mileroticos and photoprepagos were full of bait and switch.They were indeed the same girl as in the photos on their ads. I had a couple of bait and switch ME girls in CTG last May, but other than that I have had extremely good success on Mileroticos and this is the first trip I have used photo Photo Prepagos. I will continue to use in ME and PP until the law of averages catches up with me. As usual Facebook has been a gold mine this trip as in the other trips to the MDE.
El Mechanico.
You really don't get it?
Sure, you are free to pay whatever you like, and you will not move the market spreading your bills. I think nobody intended to argue that really.
However, the important point is that, while everyone is welcome to post his experience here (and of course should be open to negative as well positive comments, most of the time courteous), senior members who have spent years on site have not only the right to express criticism, if they feel so, but even the moral obligation towards the 90% of the readers, who have no experience on site, to warn when something not advisable is reported.
In your case, 400 k is the price that one is expected to pay when pulling out a stripper from a high-class club for an overnight, and I am not sure it would be justified anyway. First-class girls in Medellin cost 200 k, and usually that includes some dinner or club time before the deed. If a girl is not a hard-core pro with an agenda full of appointments hour after hour (but I don't understand those who are interested to that kind of well-known pornstar-like stars), she will be happy to enjoy some time with the man, preparing the chemistry to the sex.
200k is the price that one should expect to pay with a very nice girl, without much negotiation, and I am not speaking about cheap experiences with street girls.
The aim of those who commented your post, me included, was solely warning people who do not know, not "scolding" you. You are not a little boy. I hope you will enjoy even more your next stay.Black Page, You don't get it. Jooks said he paid up to 400 K for women who spent multi hours to all night with him, including one that came all the way from Cali. He found them on seekingarrangement.com. Women there run the gamut from virgins to hard core putas. Some of us avoid the hard core ones there, and cut them loose as soon as they start talking price. Instead we use the site to rent girlfriends, not to find high volume prostitutes for dinner and a poke. You give her what you want to. If she likes you or if you're generous she'll probably want to see you again. If she was an 8 or a 9, acted like a girlfriend, and Jook paid 400 K and spent half the day or all night with her and had a great time, more power to him. He did very well. If you want to bang as many hookers as you can and pay less, more power to you too. You and he have different preferences, different styles. Neither is superior. Neither of you is naive.
It was obvious from Jooks' first post that he was adverse to criticism. I would have liked to have heard more about his SA dates, but that's probably not going to happen now.
Wonderful report. I was in Cartagena last month and after reading your report I'll be in Medellin in October.
Thanks for such detail!
Had a great first trip to Colombia mid-June for 6-days, two in Cartagena and four in Medellin. My buddy and I are experienced mongers having been to Costa Rica, Panama, DR, St. Maarten, Curacao, multiple times over the past decade, Colombia has been high on our list of destinations but we have not been able to pull it off until now. It was worth the wait and can't wait to go again.
A little background, I am early 40's, gringo with basic to conversational Spanish, by friend is early 50's, Latin with fluent Spanish. We are both married so not interested in networking on Facebook, Tinder or Colombian Cupid, lining up GF Chicas and building a contact list for future trips. We are in-and-out, fuck as many as we can in a few short days, and forget them. It's not everyone's style, but works for us. So here was our trip..
MedellinGringo
07-09-18, 07:56
Black Page, You don't get it. Jooks said he paid up to 400 K for women who spent multi hours to all night with him, including one that came all the way from Cali. He found them on seekingarrangement.com. Women there run the gamut from virgins to hard core putas. Some of us avoid the hard core ones there, and cut them loose as soon as they start talking price. Instead we use the site to rent girlfriends, not to find high volume prostitutes for dinner and a poke. You give her what you want to. If she likes you or if you're generous she'll probably want to see you again. If she was an 8 or a 9, acted like a girlfriend, and Jook paid 400 K and spent half the day or all night with her and had a great time, more power to him. He did very well. If you want to bang as many hookers as you can and pay less, more power to you too. You and he have different preferences, different styles. Neither is superior. Neither of you is naive.
It was obvious from Jooks' first post that he was adverse to criticism. I would have liked to have heard more about his SA dates, but that's probably not going to happen now.I see both sides of this argument.
I don't see anything wrong with Jooks paying some hot chick off of SA 400 mill for her to fucked him like he was her boyfriend.
But I also agree with Black Page. There is absolutely no need to pay a hot chick 400 mill for a GFE unless she just doesn't like you much or she has a boatload of other guys offering her 400 mill or more. Which means she isn't low mileage.
The real GFE is when you get a hot chick to come over and fuck you without ever discussing money and when she is getting ready to leave you give her 200 mill. Some will refuse the money and act insulted. But you insist that they take the money so there is no confusion about what type of relationship you have with her. A dead end relationship.
There is no right or wrong here. But guys with time constrains and little experience in Medellin will usually pay more.
Seems to me that Jooks might be telling himself that this girl must really like him because she fucked him real good and wasn't a clock watcher. But 400 mill is a lot of money in Colombia. Especially for a girl that hardly ever sells her ass.
But who knows. Maybe she would have gladly taken 200 mill or maybe even nothing if he had asked.
Would be telling to see the conversation that lead up to the 400 mill price tag at any rate.
Black Page
07-09-18, 09:25
Black Page, You don't get it..........Ok thanks. Good arguments.
I limited the chicas that I see to ones that I can communicate with. For those here that speak fluent Spanish, you have the pick of the litter on SA with a little game. I have to settle for a small but growing minority that speak at least a little English. However, coupled with my basic Spanish, I can get by relatively well.
I defied that rule yesterday. Her SA photos seemed too good to be true. But I was free. I met her at one of the big malls in El Centro. I could not believe that she looked even better in person. 25 years old and could easily be a model. A 10. But I was sorry I didn't follow my rule. She didn't speak any English and making the emotional connection that I seek seemed impossible. We had lunch, she bought shoes (she paid) and we had a pleasant time together even though understanding one another was difficult. I can think of worse ways to spend my time. I explained that it wasn't going to work and she understood. Not an easy thing for me to do, that is, to pass up a goddess. I think a lot less with my dick these days. We parted ways amiably. Frankly, the lack of prioritizing sex has at times turned out to be an asset. Except for hard-core chicas, SA women mostly seem to want conversation and an emotional connection. Perhaps it's an excuse to rationalize sex for money.
Surprisingly, she messaged me a few hours later. We totally hit it off in whatsapp and seemed to make that elusive connection I seek. It seemed she liked that I wasn't like other guys she saw, wam bam thank you ma'am. Her looks were deceiving. I thought she was totally out of my league, but she turned out to be down to earth. Long story short, I spent the best 3 hours with her in my room that I can remember. As for price, I learned my lesson to keep my mouth shut, but suffice to say the cost was reasonable and we'll be seeing each other again.
I'll say it again. SA is great if you have patience and time. You can find most every type there.
Surprisingly, she messaged me a few hours later. We totally hit it off in whatsapp and seemed to make that elusive connection I seek. It seemed she liked that I wasn't like other guys she saw, wam bam thank you ma'am. Her looks were deceiving. I thought she was totally out of my league, but she turned out to be down to earth. Long story short, I spent the best 3 hours with her in my room that I can remember. As for price, I learned my lesson to keep my mouth shut, but suffice to say the cost was reasonable and we'll be seeing each other again.
I'll say it again. SA is great if you have patience and time. You can find most every type there.Great report!
You obviously have a good system for yourself and a good head on your shoulders.
Whatever you decided to "gift" that last girl, I'm sure it was appropriate. 😁👍🏼
Keep enjoying!
MedellinGringo
07-09-18, 18:42
Long story short, I spent the best 3 hours with her in my room that I can remember. As for price, I learned my lesson to keep my mouth shut, but suffice to say the cost was reasonable and we'll be seeing each other again.
.When you are looking to make a connection with chicks. The price needs to be more than just reasonable it needs to be very reasonable.
The whole point to making a connection is that you enjoy each other's company inside the bedroom as well as out. And that you see each other regularly.
If you are paying a chick 400 mill a night that is 4 million after just ten nights together. In Medellin you can have a super hot chick live with you for month, fuck you a couple times a day and keep your house clean for 3 million or less per month.
And yeah it will seem like she likes you better than other guys that just want to give her cash for sex because well she has to really like you to spend that much time with you, Right? Jajaja.
I have found it is much better just to relax and enjoy the ride and not try and rationalize why this chicas do what they do. Because they have a very different thought process then we do.
For one thing the time that a girl spends with you has very little to do with how much a chick likes you or even how much sex she has with you (some chicks just like to get nailed plain and simple).
If I had to pick just one thing that gives a good indication of how much a chick really likes you here. It would be how well and how long a chick will make out with you. Any chick here that will make out with you for 15 to 20 minutes solid is into you. The rest are just faking it. Jajaja.
No offense, and I mean this in all sincerity, I think there's too much analysis here. -.
I am not a kiss and tell person and I learned my lesson about mentioning prices.
I am a happy camper and that's all that matters to me. If anyone wants to know particulars (within limits) please PM me.
I enjoy writing reports because I like to share and I like to write. However, my reports may be lacking in information for some of you. Sorry. Please don't make this onerous -.
When you are looking to make a connection with chicks. The price needs to be more than just reasonable it needs to be very reasonable.
The whole point to making a connection is that you enjoy each other's company inside the bedroom as well as out. And that you see each other regularly.
If you are paying a chick 400 mill a night that is 4 million after just ten nights together. In Medellin you can have a super hot chick live with you for month, fuck you a couple times a day and keep your house clean for 3 million or less per month.
And yeah it will seem like she likes you better than other guys that just want to give her cash for sex because well she has to really like you to spend that much time with you, Right? Jajaja.
I have found it is much better just to relax and enjoy the ride and not try and rationalize why this chicas do what they do. Because they have a very different thought process then we do.
For one thing the time that a girl spends with you has very little to do with how much a chick likes you or even how much sex she has with you (some chicks just like to get nailed plain and simple).
If I had to pick just one thing that gives a good indication of how much a chick really likes you here. It would be how well and how long a chick will make out with you. Any chick here that will make out with you for 15 to 20 minutes solid is into you. The rest are just faking it. Jajaja.
Good report. I have had similar luck with Colombian Cupid. I'm not a casa fan either. It does take some time and patience, but a little effort before your trip will pay off.
I limited the chicas that I see to ones that I can communicate with. For those here that speak fluent Spanish, you have the pick of the litter on SA with a little game. I have to settle for a small but growing minority that speak at least a little English. However, coupled with my basic Spanish, I can get by relatively well.
I defied that rule yesterday. Her SA photos seemed too good to be true. But I was free. I met her at one of the big malls in El Centro. I could not believe that she looked even better in person. 25 years old and could easily be a model. A 10. But I was sorry I didn't follow my rule. She didn't speak any English and making the emotional connection that I seek seemed impossible. We had lunch, she bought shoes (she paid) and we had a pleasant time together even though understanding one another was difficult. I can think of worse ways to spend my time. I explained that it wasn't going to work and she understood. Not an easy thing for me to do, that is, to pass up a goddess. I think a lot less with my dick these days. We parted ways amiably.
MedellinGringo
07-09-18, 20:25
No offense, and I mean this in all sincerity, I think there's too much analysis here. -.
I am not a kiss and tell person and I learned my lesson about mentioning prices.
I am a happy camper and that's all that matters to me. If anyone wants to know particulars (within limits) please PM me.
I enjoy writing reports because I like to share and I like to write. However, my reports may be lacking in information for some of you. Sorry. Please don't make this onerous -.No offense taken.
Thanks for sharing.
Anything is better than another post about which chick is the best poke at the local casa.
It's great that you are trying to up your experience with chicks right from the start.
My only advice to you is.
You shouldn't be paying women that actually enjoy your company a premium.
You should be paying them less.
Gratitud is one of the least enduring of human emotions.
The only thing I would add to the recent discussion is that we can all get some good girls (suitable, adequate) for $200 k COP but there was some suggestion here that exceptional ones can be had for that amount and I know that the really good girls are not in the 200 range. There are barrio girls and then there are absolute trophies and I don't think most of us are getting the best of Colombia for $70 US. Truth be told, by the time I can get one of the best available to come I end up wishing I had just taken the low hanging fruit. Both levels have their drawbacks and the best looking higher status girls aren't always the most fun, best sex, or interesting in person. Yes, I know there are exceptions and occasionally we find a very good girl in need of quick money.
MedellinGringo
07-09-18, 21:18
No offense, and I mean this in all sincerity, I think there's too much analysis here. -.
I am not a kiss and tell person and I learned my lesson about mentioning prices.
I am a happy camper and that's all that matters to me. If anyone wants to know particulars (within limits) please PM me.
I enjoy writing reports because I like to share and I like to write. However, my reports may be lacking in information for some of you. Sorry. Please don't make this onerous -.Here is some practical advice for you even though you aren't asking.
Some times you will find some hot chick some where that just doesn't want to hook up with you for 200 mill.
Probably the best advice is just to keep looking but if she is really to my liking then I have offered up to 300 mill.
For todo la noche.
I take the chick out and I wine her dine her and sixty nine her.
I make sure she has a good time in as well as outside the bedroom.
Then when it is time to pay her the next day.
I tell her that I normally pay 200 mill per night but that I understand that we agreed to 300 mill.
And that is ok.
But if you want to go out tomorrow night just take the 200 and I'll pay you another 200 tomorrow and every night that you want to meet up.
Otherwise here is the 300 mill that we agreed upon and it was nice meeting you.
Like I said before.
It is better just to walk away because literally 9 out of 10 times theses women will take the money and say adios.
But there is always that one in 10 that will take the 200 mill and keep coming back for it again and again
The bottom line is.
If it is all about money for her.
It should be all about sex for you.
So wam bam.
I see all these posts about "gringo" prices. Considering that Colombia is not friendly at all towards sex tourism which is the only reason most of us go there to be completely honest.
If one can't pass for being Colombian whatsoever and can't barely speak the language.
Isn't it better not to hassle too much about the price??
Yes I do understand some prices girls spit out are ridiculous but if you pay 50-100 k more (17-34 $$) why is it wrong?
Some of us are only there for a couple days or don't look remotely Latin or unable to speak the language. And we are going into a country that doesn't welcome people like us at all. Unlike DR and CR the people here are not cool with you taking advantage of their women. Just my thoughts and not meant to offend anyone so any informative feedback would be appreciated.
Mr Enternational
07-10-18, 11:54
Yes I do understand some prices girls spit out are ridiculous but if you pay 50-100 k more (17-34 $$) why is it wrong?
Some of us are only there for a couple days or don't look remotely Latin or unable to speak the language. And we are going into a country that doesn't welcome people like us at all. Unlike DR and CR the people here are not cool with you taking advantage of their women. Would it be okay to pay $17-$34 more fore a taxi ride? How about $17-$34 more for a hotel? (Actually foreigners pay less for hotels because they are not subject to the tax that Colombians must pay.) So why is it that when it comes to pussy some people are quick to forgive the rules of consumerism? Why would it matter how you look, or how long you are there, or what language you speak? Those are no excuses to allow yourself to be ripped off no matter what the transaction involves.
By the way, Cuba Dave was arrested in Costa Rica, not Colombia. There is no witch hunt for foreigners buying pussy in Colombia. Why would you think someone would be coming to arrest you if you negotiate the price? Buying pussy from an adult is not illegal in Colombia.
This has been more or less my philosophy.
I'm guessing that half the women I've been with don't even mention money. But these have been SA amateurs and trust that I'll do the right thing, which I try to do.
I see all these posts about "gringo" prices. Considering that Colombia is not friendly at all towards sex tourism which is the only reason most of us go there to be completely honest.
If one can't pass for being Colombian whatsoever and can't barely speak the language.
Isn't it better not to hassle too much about the price??
Yes I do understand some prices girls spit out are ridiculous but if you pay 50-100 k more (17-34 $$) why is it wrong?
Some of us are only there for a couple days or don't look remotely Latin or unable to speak the language. And we are going into a country that doesn't welcome people like us at all. Unlike DR and CR the people here are not cool with you taking advantage of their women. Just my thoughts and not meant to offend anyone so any informative feedback would be appreciated.
Would it be okay to pay $17-$34 more fore a taxi ride? How about $17-$34 more for a hotel? (Actually foreigners pay less for hotels because they are not subject to the tax that Colombians must pay.) So why is it that when it comes to pussy some people are quick to forgive the rules of consumerism? Why would it matter how you look, or how long you are there, or what language you speak? Those are no excuses to allow yourself to be ripped off no matter what the transaction involves.
By the way, Cuba Dave was arrested in Costa Rica, not Colombia. There is no witch hunt for foreigners buying pussy in Colombia. Why would you think someone would be coming to arrest you if you negotiate the price? Buying pussy from an adult is not illegal in Colombia.Oh I think your misunderstanding me a little bit.
First off on the whole sex tourism thing I know of people that have been put back on the plane in Medellin because they forgot the address of the hotel they were staying at and they asked my friend if he's here for see tourism he denied it and they still sent him back so that's why I said they don't welcome it. There is also big sign somewhere in the airport that says something like no sex tourism or something along those lines. I have many Colombian friends with families in law out here that tell me the same thing.
And yes as far as business prices like taxis or even massage parlors absolutely the price should stay the same for all agreed.
I'm referring to girls who are independents strip club girls face book girls etc.
It's very obvious we are going to get a higher price than an average Colombian. If I am paying even 300 Usd (750 k cop) for a tln with a super hot girl that's a 9 or 10. That is still considerably cheaper than what I would pay in the states so I don't consider it a rip off. If I bargain her down to 250 and she accepts I just got a better deal for myself no matter how you look at it.
Yes I understand for Colombian standards it may be ridiculous but I don't think it's being ripped off. Ripped off is like robbing me or not providing services that were promised for the $$ that's agreed.
Also I read a lot about girls being flakes here and there. I ask you one simple question. If one were to be paying "gringo" prices I highly doubt that there would be such flakiness. We all have our own opinions but I don't feel like paying a little more is out of line or wrong for a girl to ask for. She sees an opportunity just like we do for cheaper pussy from hotter girls than the states.
I got a couple of PMs about stuff to do in and around Medellin with female company. I've only been here 2 weeks with one more to go, so I am far from an expert. However, I'll relate my experiences and observations so far. I like active vacations as opposed to laying on a beach or mongering all day. Following are some observations and a short list of things I have found.
My experience with using tours or even suggestions offered by my hotel hasn't been great. They have a vested interest in steering you to a particular tour company and it's probably best to use another means of getting recommendations.
Bicycling is a big time sport in Medellin and there are numerous options. I'm going on a tour in the Andes on Thursday and am using the following company:
https://2000mdescent.com/register/
They have 3 different tours ranging in difficulty. The simplest tour only requires knowledge of how to ride a bike. My interaction with the company has been great and I have a good feeling that this may be the highlight of my stay. It's not cheap. It's $100 for the day but they offer a lot.
There's another bicycle and general tour company seemingly similar but they offer a wider range of options:
http://www.medellincitytours.com/
I have no experience with them.
You can also rent a bicycle. I see many bicyclists in the street. However, even though there are many bicycle lanes, the car is still king and it seems motorists will run pedestrians or cyclists over to get to their destination a half second faster.
For hiking, a mild but breathtakingly hike is a scenic trip is Guatape. This is seemingly always listed as a must to do on just about every list. It's about 2 hours from Medellin. You don't really need a tour guide and a bus will suffice if you want to save money. A tour agency like the ones recommended above and below will probably have more options.
I used a small tour company to go to Santa Fe, a scenic town 90 minutes outside of Medellin. It's a high end tourist agency with a number of different options including customized trips, but not cheap. The tours are private.
http://willisbestguidemedellin.com/
For general stuff to do, tripadvisor's list is a good reference:
https://www.tripadvisor.co/Attractions-g297478-Activities-Medellin_Antioquia_Department.html
Paragliding is also popular but I haven't been able to fit it in, not that I tried that hard, haha. I did it once in Venezuela and practically had a heart attack when I jumped off the mountain.
Sort of related is the taxi situation in Medellin. Uber is generally half the price for local rides. It's also illegal, but that's another story. Yellow taxis have gotten lost too many times for my taste. They rarely use a navigator. But who can blame them for getting lost? I find the address system to be immensely confusing. There were many times that I input an address into Uber only to have Uber change it to another address.
Speaking of getting lost, I have a bad habit of doing so. I have no sense of direction. However, paisas are extremely friendly and helpful people. One time I got a ride back to my hotel in a police van. Another time, an elderly woman stopped 3 motorists to ask directions for me. There were many other acts of kindness. But I am digressing.
That was the easy part. As for finding a "compatible" companion to accompany on excursions, that might be a little tricky but I'm sure it's do-able. From what I can see, many if not most women have obligations. School, work, children, etc. However, I see many profiles on SA that indicate a willingness to travel and I think that would be your best source. The only word of caution I can offer is to get to know the woman a little first and don't overpay. If you get along with someone, the trip should probably be gratis or close to it. A pro will probably charge a fortune. I inquired with one person and she wanted 150 per hour.
I see all these posts about "gringo" prices. Considering that Colombia is not friendly at all towards sex tourism which is the only reason most of us go there to be completely honest.
If one can't pass for being Colombian whatsoever and can't barely speak the language.
Isn't it better not to hassle too much about the price??
Yes I do understand some prices girls spit out are ridiculous but if you pay 50-100 k more (17-34 $$) why is it wrong?
Some of us are only there for a couple days or don't look remotely Latin or unable to speak the language. And we are going into a country that doesn't welcome people like us at all. Unlike DR and CR the people here are not cool with you taking advantage of their women. Just my thoughts and not meant to offend anyone so any informative feedback would be appreciated.All the posts I see about gringo prices are from first time visitors who assume they are getting overcharged for everything.
Most bars, restaurants and taxis are going to charge you the normal price. You might get quoted a higher rate for the taxi from Rionegro to Medellin, but if you look at the sign with the posted rates, you can easily counter with the correct price.
Most casas have set prices. I've sat in several and watched the GTGs (Google Translate Gringos) pay the same price as the locals. For most you pay the manager for the time you want before you go to the room. At New Life you pay at the cashier window after you're done. At Lindas Chicas you pay the girl after the deed then go pay Nancy for the room and any drinks. At Energy you pay the lady at the desk after you finish.
Elsewhere girls are going to ask for however much they think they can get. This varies depending on how badly they need the money, how attractive they find you and how they currently perceive themselves. There's probably 40 other factors involved in the decision process.
Knowing what you are willing to pay should be all that matters to you.
Unless you're walking down the street screaming "quiero putas", Colombians are happy to see you. If you behave like a normal person they couldn't care less that you're paying for sex. Unless you're arguing price in public, they don't care whether you are paying too much or too little.
How well you get along with Colombians depends on how well you treat Colombians. Treat them respect, show you respect their country, don't try to tell them how much better your country is, don't be insulting and you'll find Colombians to be some of the friendliest people in the world.
Here's a recent example. Two weeks ago a semi-pro friend messaged me about a gringo she had met. She was really enjoying his company and asked me to talk to him, because he wanted to learn some things about Medellin. Before I got a chance, she told me not to bother. The guy had made a joke about some waitress or cashier that she found disrespectful. One tasteless joke and he goes from being her "Principe azul" to being a "Bobo."
Another girl I know went from being firm on 250 k then down to 200 k, 150 k, then whatever I wanted to pay, but at least 60 k plus taxi. When she was bored she once came over and spent 3 hours for 30 k, 20 for the taxi and 10 for some weed. I've talked with other mongers who complained that she wouldn't budge off the 250.
Paying a few dollars extra isn't going to earn you any respect. It's just going to get you a lot of people with their hands out looking to get some of the money you're handing out.
To close, decide what you want to pay, then go from there. Whether you're paying the going rate, or 5 times the going rate doesn't matter. It won't affect the quality of the sessions, it won't change how much people like or respect you and it won't change the way people treat you. How you treat the people is more important than how much you pay them.
ColombiaLover
07-10-18, 15:09
I really do not think that most Colombians think we are "taking advantage" of their women. Based on my 12 years of travel there and my 9 years married to a Colombian (now ex-wife), I suggest other reasons why they are not always happy to see us:
1) For some Colombianos, there is some jealous / annoyance that we are with their women, which many of them view more as property. Obviously, this does not apply to all, because many Colombianos directly benefit from the money we given their women.
2) For some of the middle and upper class Colombianos, there is some resentment that this "low class" (as they view them) barrio chicas are getting paid so much money. Which is much, much more than they pay them to clean their houses and perform other services. The class system is alive and well.
3) Middle and upper class Colombianos don't want these girls in their barrios. Including their restaurants, bars, and malls. So they resent us because we are the ones who are either taking them there or giving them the money to afford to go there (for example, to buy a new purse).
To me, the disdain expressed "officially" by the government and others about sex tourism is laughable. What would happen if every gringo simply stayed home? Think of how much money the hotels, apartment owners, and restaurants and bars would lose. Even more would not be able to pay their rent or feed their kids. The truth is that sex tourism is helpful to business owners, the girls themselves, and the government. I could go on, but I'll stop now.
And the truth is. If anyone sometimes gets taken advantage of, it's not the girls. It's the gringo.
Unlike DR and CR the people here are not cool with you taking advantage of their women. Just my thoughts and not meant to offend anyone so any informative feedback would be appreciated.
MedellinGringo
07-10-18, 16:59
I see all these posts about "gringo" prices. Considering that Colombia is not friendly at all towards sex tourism which is the only reason most of us go there to be completely honest.
If one can't pass for being Colombian whatsoever and can't barely speak the language.
Isn't it better not to hassle too much about the price??
Yes I do understand some prices girls spit out are ridiculous but if you pay 50-100 k more (17-34 $$) why is it wrong?
Some of us are only there for a couple days or don't look remotely Latin or unable to speak the language. And we are going into a country that doesn't welcome people like us at all. Unlike DR and CR the people here are not cool with you taking advantage of their women. Just my thoughts and not meant to offend anyone so any informative feedback would be appreciated.I have never felt uncomfortable in Colombia and I have been traveling to and living in Colombia for over 20 years.
Obviously I do a lot more here than pay for pussy.
But my feeling is that Colombians are against sex tourism but not really against prostitution.
The thing is that Gringos and Colombianos go at paying for pussy in very different ways. Colombianos would never bring a street walker into their home nor take a strata two chick into a nice restaurant.
Gringos just make it so obvious what they are doing that it can hardly be ignored. Even when some gringos take out a very attractive prepago that is dressed in expensive clothes and looks and acts like she came out of a strata six barrio. The gringos still can't pull it off. Because they dress like slobs.
If you don't have a problem with women letting you take them out in public and if they are affectionate with you in public then you are most likely doing OK in the public eye.
If you notice that your dates are hesitant to go out with you in public and they don't want to sit close to you when you are out then something is off.
I don't have a problem with guys paying what they want to pay a chick.
But I think it is wise to know what is customary and reasonable and if you are paying more than other guys.
Some guys are just going to have to pay more to get what they want and there is nothing much they can do about it. If chick wants to charge me more than she charges other guys or just more than normal then a take it as a bad sign and will usually just skip it.
When I initially meet a chick I judge them on their looks, attitude, personality and by what they want to charge to spend quality time with me.
If a chick is charging more than normal then I want to know why.
Spme chicks just charge more because they are very busy and have more potential clients than they can serve so they raise their price to make more money and eliminate the less lucrative customers.
Other women when they get popular don't raise their rates but rather get picky about who they sleep with.....those are the women I prefer to spend my time with.
Adding to current price discussion, I personally I walk away if I have to pay more than the market price even she is a 10. Girls trying to take more money home is normal, but its all about self controll in those situations I think.
Anyways, I have heard Colombia is surgery country but having not been there I don't know how wide spread problem it is. I wonder how likely are butt implant amongst prepagos or are they just born with huge behinds? Because half of the girls on escort sites have huge butt and slime waist, which is almost unreal to me coming from Europe and some of those thigh / ass ratio do look suspicious. Let me put bluntly, I admire big behinds but hate fake body parts.
Oh I think your misunderstanding me a little bit.
First off on the whole sex tourism thing I know of people that have been put back on the plane in Medellin because they forgot the address of the hotel they were staying at and they asked my friend if he's here for see tourism he denied it and they still sent him back so that's why I said they don't welcome it. There is also big sign somewhere in the airport that says something like no sex tourism or something along those lines. I have many Colombian friends with families in law out here that tell me the same thing.
And yes as far as business prices like taxis or even massage parlors absolutely the price should stay the same for all agreed.
I'm referring to girls who are independents strip club girls face book girls etc.
It's very obvious we are going to get a higher price than an average Colombian. If I am paying even 300 Usd (750 k cop) for a tln with a super hot girl that's a 9 or 10. That is still considerably cheaper than what I would pay in the states so I don't consider it a rip off. If I bargain her down to 250 and she accepts I just got a better deal for myself no matter how you look at it.
Yes I understand for Colombian standards it may be ridiculous but I don't think it's being ripped off. Ripped off is like robbing me or not providing services that were promised for the $$ that's agreed.
Also I read a lot about girls being flakes here and there. I ask you one simple question. If one were to be paying "gringo" prices I highly doubt that there would be such flakiness. We all have our own opinions but I don't feel like paying a little more is out of line or wrong for a girl to ask for. She sees an opportunity just like we do for cheaper pussy from hotter girls than the states.There's no correlation between price paid and flakiness. This is especially true in Medellin. Colombians even joke about it. Being on time doesn't make it onto the priority list. Most paisas will just give you a blank look when you complain that they are 2 hours late. Time management is a foreign concept.
Part of the problem is their refusal to say "no. " Instead of telling you that they can't see you in 2 hours, they'll just agree and arrive on their schedule. Making an excuse is easier than just being straight. This is not limited to prepagos. If the cable guy is going to be there at 9 am Monday, it will be Wednesday before he tells you he'll be there Friday. Next day deliveries generally take 3 days.
So you can offer to pay more, but it just means you're paying more for the same sex and she's still going to be at least 30 minutes late.
If you insist on comparing prices at home to prices in Colombia, then do it for everything. That $4 complete meal, including fresh fruit juice and tip would be $25 or more in Manhattan. Why aren't you handing over 70 k? That $100 per night apartment is $350 or more. The least you could do is hand over 600 k. Those $5 taxi rides? $50 or more, but you're probably not handing out 100 k tips. Get a girl to take you shopping in El Centro. For $20 you can get $200 of fresh produce, at US prices. Ask her how much she pays for rent and utilities. Giving her a lot more than the going rate isn't helping her. If she buys a new phone someone will steal it. If she starts spending more money someone will rob her.
Unless you're planning on becoming a Western Union Novio, your extra money is just as likely to hurt as to help. And it will have no effect on what you receive.
ColombiaLover
07-10-18, 22:41
From my experience, does not have an abnormally huge butt. Some do, but many (most?) do not. Many of them complain about their asses to me, even if I think it's perfect. Bigger always seems to be better.
Breast implants are still way more popular, but I have seen the butt implant become more popular. I can think of two girls I know who have had them in the past 6 months and another who always was proud that she was "natural" now telling me she is wanting to save money to have one.
I suspect many of the big asses you see are implants, although not all. The only way to find out for sure is if you see them and squeeze.
Adding to current price discussion, I personally I walk away if I have to pay more than the market price even she is a 10. Girls trying to take more money home is normal, but its all about self controll in those situations I think.
Anyways, I have heard Colombia is surgery country but having not been there I don't know how wide spread problem it is. I wonder how likely are butt implant amongst prepagos or are they just born with huge behinds? Because half of the girls on escort sites have huge butt and slime waist, which is almost unreal to me coming from Europe and some of those thigh / ass ratio do look suspicious. Let me put bluntly, I admire big behinds but hate fake body parts.
Mr Enternational
07-11-18, 01:28
Also I read a lot about girls being flakes here and there. I ask you one simple question. If one were to be paying "gringo" prices I highly doubt that there would be such flakiness. We all have our own opinions but I don't feel like paying a little more is out of line or wrong for a girl to ask for. She sees an opportunity just like we do for cheaper pussy from hotter girls than the states.The more you pay, the flakier the girl will be. She is trying to hurry up and get out of there before you realize what you agreed to! She does not see an opportunity; she sees a mark. An opportunity for her would be to go sell pussy where it sells for a higher price. Of course in most of those cases there is higher overhead as well. Neither do we see an opportunity for cheaper pussy. We simply go where it costs less.
Eszpresszo
07-11-18, 02:08
First off on the whole sex tourism thing I know of people that have been put back on the plane in Medellin because they forgot the address of the hotel they were staying at and they asked my friend if he's here for see tourism he denied it and they still sent him back so that's why I said they don't welcome it.
Really? And the immigration officials were concerned about his indulging in a less than completely illegal activity? I would think with all of Colombia's problems, a tourist busting a nut would not constitute a problem worth deporting him. You don't think drug trafficking would be a bigger concern? That is actually illegal, directly involves the participation of and consumption by foreigners. Not to mention it does involve violent and highly organized crime that has seriously destabilized the country in the past. You are sure the immigration officers weren't more concerned about that? I understand Colombia's lenient laws on personal consumption have made it quite a destination for drug tourism. I keep reading about foreigners being sent to prison for drug related charges, but not much about tourists getting in any kind of trouble involving P4P activities.
I'm very confused about what a foreigner who "can't pass for Colombian" could be doing or saying to get sent back on a plane or meet with disapproval. The reason for my confusion is Poblado is just about overrun with foreigners, including backpackers, stoners, missionaries, eco-tourists, adventure travelers, and yes sex tourists. Even in Centro, Plaza Botero and the surrounding area including Veracruz is full of tour groups. My point is no one has to appear Colombian to blend in. So help me understand what is it that anyone is doing to be denied entry to the country or more to the point I suppose, to get quoted higher than normal prices.
All the posts I see about gringo prices are from first time visitors who assume they are getting overcharged for everything.
Most bars, restaurants and taxis are going to charge you the normal price. You might get quoted a higher rate for the taxi from Rionegro to Medellin, but if you look at the sign with the posted rates, you can easily counter with the correct price.
Most casas have set prices. I've sat in several and watched the GTGs (Google Translate Gringos) pay the same price as the locals. For most you pay the manager for the time you want before you go to the room. At New Life you pay at the cashier window after you're done. At Lindas Chicas you pay the girl after the deed then go pay Nancy for the room and any drinks. At Energy you pay the lady at the desk after you finish.
Elsewhere girls are going to ask for however much they think they can get. This varies depending on how badly they need the money, how attractive they find you and how they currently perceive themselves. There's probably 40 other factors involved in the decision process.
Knowing what you are willing to pay should be all that matters to you.
Unless you're walking down the street screaming "quiero putas", Colombians are happy to see you. If you behave like a normal person they couldn't care less that you're paying for sex. Unless you're arguing price in public, they don't care whether you are paying too much or too little..
Really? And the immigration officials were concerned about his indulging in a less than completely illegal activity? I would think with all of Colombia's problems, a tourist busting a nut would not constitute a problem worth deporting him. You don't think drug trafficking would be a bigger concern? That is actually illegal, directly involves the participation of and consumption by foreigners. Not to mention it does involve violent and highly organized crime that has seriously destabilized the country in the past. You are sure the immigration officers weren't more concerned about that? I understand Colombia's lenient laws on personal consumption have made it quite a destination for drug tourism. I keep reading about foreigners being sent to prison for drug related charges, but not much about tourists getting in any kind of trouble involving P4P activities.It definitely happened to my friend and then the first time I went to Mde my Airbnb host said the exact same thing to me.
The officers aren't dumb and if you're a Colombian living in the country I can totally see some bitterness being involved in how foreigners are coming in with $$ to take their women. I would say if you run into the wrong officer on the wrong day he can give you problems just for the heck of it. Considering any legal issues can be handled with a bribe things aren't so straight all the time.
First off on the whole sex tourism thing I know of people that have been put back on the plane in Medellin because they forgot the address of the hotel they were staying at and they asked my friend if he's here for see tourism he denied it and they still sent him back so that's why I said they don't welcome it. There is also big sign somewhere in the airport that says something like no sex tourism or something along those lines. I have many Colombian friends with families in law out here that tell me the same thing.That sign in the airport (not sure it's still there since they are doing a lot of construction in the airport) is about minors. Almost everyone I come in contact with in Medellin has treated me very well. There have been a couple of old ladies at or near apartment buildings where I have stayed that didn't like the fact I was with young chicas. Everyone else I have come in contact with has treated me very well. I respect the local people and never act like I am entitled to something just because I am from the US.
The Tall Man
07-11-18, 05:17
Truisms about my many years and more Colombiana women I can count, my opinions and although hard to say and somewhat painful to read is accurate:
1. Colombian women, more precisely paisas are ALL attention WG (just look at facebook of even young non-pros / WG in waiting).
2. The police are all corrupt, the mentality of the average Colombian is all about greed and jealousy and fucking the rich gringo, they lie all of the time, they are opportunists, they will steal and cheat the first chance they can.
3. Full of drama.
4. Every chica can be had if the price is right.
5. I could give a shit about bringing a strata 2 girl into any establishment, fuck what any colombian thinks, they are uneasy only because you are bringing to the light what colombian culture is all about, which is they have none, if you think they do it is only a good front.
6. The stereotype of the perfect paisa looking woman is such that if money was not an issue all paisas would have numerous cosmetic surgeries as young as starting at 15, they would turn their natural and beautiful bodies into a grotesque globe of exaggerated butts and breasts and lips, yes they would fuck their bodies up beyond belief and believe they look great.
7. If you allow them they WILL take advantage of you, you will overpay, they think of you as not being generous but rather a weak and stupid gringo, no respect. You must take control, simply act how the Colombian men do, don't give a shit about these bitches, don't care about them, they come and go as easy and often as taking a shit in the toilet.
8. Remember, if they are not with you they are fucking someone else, do NOT listen and believe anything such as promises and words, they are great lies!
9. Etc. , etc. , etc.
IMPORTANT. The above being said, I can't get enough of these paisas, hands-down the sweetest and some of the most passionate lovers in the world!
TTM.
PolloNegro
07-11-18, 07:45
Truisms about my many years and more Colombiana women I can count, my opinions and although hard to say and somewhat painful to read is accurate:.I completely agree and have no reason to disagree. Salute this post.
When I first read the post, I thought how true these statements were. Until I gave it some thought. These are not "truisms" but more like stereotypes. Many of the statements apply to many third world or impoverished countries.
I had dinner last night with a paisa and we had a lengthy discussion. It lasted 2+ hours and no sex was involved (sadly). We talked too much! She wanted to know about Americans. Just like the truisms mentioned here, she had her own set of truisms about Americans based on her interactions. Drunks, aggressive, egotistical and that Americans feel they are better than the rest of the world. And more. I can easily see how she got this impression since many Americans act exactly like this, especially in Colombia. Of course, it is a stereotype.
I could go on, but suffice to say that I have met many paisas that don't fit any of the truisms mentioned. In general, I have found paisas to be kind and helpful people with strong values. However, in a society where people are often deprived basic necessities, one does what one has to do.
Truisms about my many years and more Colombiana women I can count, my opinions and although hard to say and somewhat painful to read is accurate:.
The more you pay, the flakier the girl will be. She is trying to hurry up and get out of there before you realize what you agreed to! She does not see an opportunity; she sees a mark. An opportunity for her would be to go sell pussy where it sells for a higher price. Of course in most of those cases there is higher overhead as well. Neither do we see an opportunity for cheaper pussy. We simply go where it costs less.Interesting. My experience has been exactly the opposite. I have over paid for pussy before, but it was what I was looking for, and I treat the girls good. In almost every case they come back for more, eventually for much less and in many cases for free. Sometimes its hard to get rid of them. In fact some of the girls come over and hang out and watch TV, cook, clean and fuck. For free. . well I do provide food and drink.
Treating people with respect, especially people living in less than ideal situations, goes a long fucking way. Karma I guess. I had a girl in West Africa, god she was beautiful, she saved my ass on more than one occasion! I could go on but I think you guys get my drift.
Cheers!
PolloNegro
07-11-18, 14:55
That I have come to is this: when you criticize another on the board for the amount of money he spends, you're older, financially limited, and came to Medellin seeking the best bargains possible. This behavior demonstrates what individuals on fixed incomes do. Younger guys spend more because they feel they can recoup money spent or compensate in the bedroom. Why would you travel abroad with limited money, and then want the best deal possible? It's called greed and clearly demonstrates the same behavior of old America. You will never catch me bashing any monger for the amount he spends, that's his money and I'm allergic to pocket watching. There was once one group of people who felt it was perfectly fine to work another group of people and not pay them at all, until laws were changed. The opposition shown on the board clearly details the behavior of the majority. My 2 cents is this, spend a little, enjoy yourself, never worry about the majority, just do you. On another note, there has only been 2 people from the board who has actually introduced me to girls from this board, Wolf and Rodeo 9112. In nearly 6 months of post, all I see is fixed income gringos complaining about how financially stable mongers spend their money. And that's a shame, if you're in Medellin with limited money say that, your rebuttal and posts show that you're stingy and tight with currency anyways, post more girls and less arguments. I read this board to locate new prospects, not the older man's manual on how to swindle young Colombian girls out of Pwussy, to each their own. But please don't be so harsh on fellow mongers with 4 days to find Colombia's best paisa! Pollonegro is out!
Truisms about my many years and more Colombiana women I can count, my opinions and although hard to say and somewhat painful to read is accurate:Usually your posts are accurate and informative. I'm guessing you're just having a rough day, because this one is way off.
My experience is different from the average person on this forum. Most visit for a few days or weeks, do the same things every trip and have a very narrow exposure to the people and the country. No matter how many times you've visited, you are only seeing a small subset of the people.
A few know my story. I went to Medellin early April 2017 for a business opportunity. Unfortunately, it never fully came together. At the end of March 2018, I threw in the towel and returned to the states. My consecutive time in Colombia fell 2 weeks short of a year. During the first 10 months I had a Colombiana roommate. I spent time with a lot of people in non-mongering situations. I visited families and took Spanish classes. I also visited the casas, strip clubs and red light streets, and pulled many girls from Facebook.
During my time I got to really know quite a few people. Most of them don't fit into your "truisms."
1. Colombian women, more precisely paisas are ALL attention wh*res (just look at facebook of even young non-pros / wh0*res in waiting).
2. The police are all corrupt, the mentality of the average colombian is all about greed and jealousy and fucking the rich gringo, they lie all of the time, they are opportunists, they will steal and cheat the first chance they can.
3. Full of drama.1. I met several paisas, 2 that I spent a considerable amount of time with, who were easily embarrassed and hated attention. The 2 I know best take selfies only with other people and don't post any pictures that are the least bit revealing.
2. My interactions with the police were nearly non-existent. None of the encounters were a problem and I didn't personally witness any police behaving inappropriately.
The average paisa is honest and proud. Several times I've had people chase me down because I had paid too much, or forgot my change. Quite a few taxi drivers refused a tip of whatever coins they needed to give me. Usually just a few hundred pesos. People on the metro warned me that my backpack was unzipped, or that my phone was in my back pocket. One day, extremely low blood sugar caused me to pass out on the metro. Someone ran out to keep the train from leaving the station. Someone else ran to get help. Several other people helped me to my feet. A metro employee brought me water and sat with me until I felt good enough to leave the station.
3. Paisa women are as full of drama as US women. Some are, some aren't.
4. Every chica can be had if the price is right.This is flat out wrong. Every chica working in a casa? Yes. Obviously. Every chica? Not even close. I spent 10 months living with a successful webcam model. She receives offers nearly every day. The highest I've seen was $10 k USD, plus airfare and all expenses. The offers make her angry. It's possible she might have sex with you. Catch her in the right mood, work some magic and who knows. However, if you try to give her money, you're going to get hurt.
I did meet several women, in normal situations who let me know they were available. Others offered up friends, if I was interested. But there were several who were quite vocal about what they thought about being paid for sex.
5. I could give a shit about bringing a strata 2 girl into any establishment, fuck what any colombian thinks, they are uneasy only because you are bringing to the light what colombian culture is all about, which is they have none, if you think they do it is only a good front.There's some truth here. The class system is ingrained in the Colombian culture the same way that racism is ingrained in US culture. However, the discomfort has little to do with economic class. Mostly it's about lack of class. When 2 old gringos are sitting in a nice restaurant, talking loudly about the girls they fucked that day, while groping their dates, who are dressed like they're next on stage at Conejitas, it makes the families around them uncomfortable. When 2 old gringos are sitting with 2 appropriately dressed young women, having a normal discussion, nobody gives them a second look.
I've been in some of the best restaurants in Medellin, accompanied by 1 to 3 women at least 30 years younger than me. Nobody gave us a second look.
As for culture, Colombia has a very rich culture. It's almost impossible to avoid. If all your time is spent in taxis, casas and strip clubs you might miss it. Unless you happen to pass through Plaza Botero. For a real treat spend December with a Colombian family. To really get the full effect of the culture, you need to speak the language.
6. The stereotype of the perfect paisa looking woman is such that if money was not an issue all paisas would have numerous cosmetic surgeries as young as starting at 15, they would turn their natural and beautiful bodies into a grotesque globe of exaggerated butts and breasts and lips, yes they would fuck their bodies up beyond belief and believe they look great.True, for some. Women around the world obsess about their bodies. I've met at least as many women who are completely against plastic surgery. I know many women who can easily afford any procedure from the best surgeons, yet they are completely natural.
7. If you allow them they WILL take advantage of you, you will overpay, they think of you as not being generous but rather a weak and stupid gringo, no respect. You must take control, simply act how the colombian men do, don't give a shit about these bitches, don't care about them, they come and go as easy and often as taking a shit in the toilet.If you are dealing strictly with prepagos, this is mostly true. Not entirely. One Colombian couple comes to mind. She's what might be referred to as a semi pro. She's been together with her novio for several years and he treats her like a queen. I've personally been in many situations where a Colombiana was in a position to take advantage of me. A few did. The majority didn't.
8. Remember, if they are not with you they are fucking someone else, do NOT listen and believe anything such as promises and words, they are great lies!If you are paying them to fuck you, what they are doing when they aren't fucking you is not your concern. If you're worried about it, you don't understand the concept of pay for play sex. Why would you ask a prostitute to make promises to you?
9. Etc. , etc. , etc.
IMPORTANT. The above being said, I can't get enough of these paisas, hands-down the sweetest and some of the most passionate lovers in the world!
TTM.I'm guessing that when you first went to Colombia you fell for a prepago, believed that she was madly in love with you, sent her a lot of money and then found out you were just being played. It happens a lot. It's an expensive lesson. I learned it from a US girl many years ago.
However, judging all of Colombia based on your interactions with the prostitutes isn't a fair assessment. Not even every prepago fits your list.
Interesting. My experience has been exactly the opposite. I have over paid for pussy before, but it was what I was looking for, and I treat the girls good. In almost every case they come back for more, eventually for much less and in many cases for free. Sometimes its hard to get rid of them. In fact some of the girls come over and hang out and watch TV, cook, clean and fuck. For free. . well I do provide food and drink.
Treating people with respect, especially people living in less than ideal situations, goes a long fucking way. Karma I guess. I had a girl in West Africa, god she was beautiful, she saved my ass on more than one occasion! I could go on but I think you guys get my drift.
Cheers!I am all for treating people and respect and I believe in karma too but you bet that if they are doing everything you say and not asking for more then food and drinks that they are making an attempt to set you up for a long term play down the road. Just wait and see and be honest with yourself.
Mr Enternational
07-11-18, 15:26
I could go on, but suffice to say that I have met many paisas that don't fit any of the truisms mentioned. In general, I have found paisas to be kind and helpful people with strong values. However, in a society where people are often deprived basic necessities, one does what one has to do.Suffice it to say, the less hookers that you deal with, the more apparent that these stereotypes do not hold for normal people. I do not know any Colombians that fit that bill because my hooker interactions there are limited to short times in a brothel somewhere.
Suffice it to say, the less hookers that you deal with, the more apparent that these stereotypes do not hold for normal people. I do not know any Colombians that fit that bill because my hooker interactions there are limited to short times in a brothel somewhere.Probably so.
SA, which I have come to use exclusively, is mostly populated by "regular" chicas looking to supplement something. They are not hardcore for the most part. And for the most part, they do not fit the traits mentioned. Theses traits apply to the hardcore chicas. I shy away from them, hence my experience is different.
Mr Enternational
07-11-18, 17:57
The officers aren't dumb and if you're a Colombian living in the country I can totally see some bitterness being involved in how foreigners are coming in with $$ to take their women.LOL. Man get out of here with this clown shit. You seriously think a Colombian is worried about a foreigner coming to pay chicks they have been fucking their whole lives for free? Especially when half the money you are giving her is probably going to him anyway. They may be exotic and hot shit to you, but to them they are just regular old broads.
Reminds me of my favorite show 90 Day Fiance when dude from Arizona imported a chick from the Philippines. He thought she was such hot shit that he insisted on her going to a modeling agency. She wanted nothing of it, but he insisted. Man they laughed that chick up out of there. They thought she was coming to apply to be the janitor or something.
Gringos do have a knack for going to other countries and I guess zeroing in on one trait and thinking they have found the crown jewel. When they go to Asia they zero in on thin. They don't want tits, ass, hips. As long as she is thin as a rail is all that matters. When they go to African countries they zero in on Black. When they go to Colombia what do they zero in on? Fake tits maybe? It leaves people from those places full of confusion. He came here throwing around all his money to get his hands on THAT! SMDH.
All the posts I see about gringo prices are from first time visitors who assume they are getting overcharged for everything.
Most bars, restaurants and taxis are going to charge you the normal price. You might get quoted a higher rate for the taxi from Rionegro to Medellin, but if you look at the sign with the posted rates, you can easily counter with the correct price.
Most casas have set prices. I've sat in several and watched the GTGs (Google Translate Gringos) pay the same price as the locals. For most you pay the manager for the time you want before you go to the room. At New Life you pay at the cashier window after you're done. At Lindas Chicas you pay the girl after the deed then go pay Nancy for the room and any drinks. At Energy you pay the lady at the desk after you finish.
Elsewhere girls are going to ask for however much they think they can get. This varies depending on how badly they need the money, how attractive they find you and how they currently perceive themselves. There's probably 40 other factors involved in the decision process.
Knowing what you are willing to pay should be all that matters to you.
Unless you're walking down the street screaming "quiero putas", Colombians are happy to see you. If you behave like a normal person they couldn't care less that you're paying for sex. Unless you're arguing price in public, they don't care whether you are paying too much or too little.
How well you get along with Colombians depends on how well you treat Colombians. Treat them respect, show you respect their country, don't try to tell them how much better your country is, don't be insulting and you'll find Colombians to be some of the friendliest people in the world.
Here's a recent example. Two weeks ago a semi-pro friend messaged me about a gringo she had met. She was really enjoying his company and asked me to talk to him, because he wanted to learn some things about Medellin. Before I got a chance, she told me not to bother. The guy had made a joke about some waitress or cashier that she found disrespectful. One tasteless joke and he goes from being her "Principe azul" to being a "Bobo."
Another girl I know went from being firm on 250 k then down to 200 k, 150 k, then whatever I wanted to pay, but at least 60 k plus taxi. When she was bored she once came over and spent 3 hours for 30 k, 20 for the taxi and 10 for some weed. I've talked with other mongers who complained that she wouldn't budge off the 250.
Paying a few dollars extra isn't going to earn you any respect. It's just going to get you a lot of people with their hands out looking to get some of the money you're handing out.
To close, decide what you want to pay, then go from there. Whether you're paying the going rate, or 5 times the going rate doesn't matter. It won't affect the quality of the sessions, it won't change how much people like or respect you and it won't change the way people treat you. How you treat the people is more important than how much you pay them.Ok, ignore a lot of the BS out there lately, and read this Post.
El Mechanico
07-11-18, 21:04
MDE 7/3-7/9/18.
TRANSPORTATION: UA IAH to MDE thru PTY uneventful. 30 min on tarmac in PTY coming back for no apparent reason. Taxis and Uber's in town extremely cheap. Finally, on MDE trip #4, I used the Metro. Very easy, extremely cheap and very fast. 2400 COP one way,4800 COP for a round trip. We simply held up one or 2 fingers & never had a problem. We were going to take the Metro up to Madera Station then UBER to the airport but the Hotel staff convinced us to get a private car so we did for 70 k COP (My friends driver charged us 75 k COP from the airport to the Hotel Egina coming in). On the way to the airport, our car was pulled over at a routine checkpoint by the police. We had to get out, they checked our passports & luggage, and asked the driver for all kinds or paperwork & licenses and whatnot. He told us after we were back on our way that they were searching for UBER drivers. He also said when they catch an Uber driver, the passengers have to catch a cab, the car is impounded & there is a fine to be paid. I don't know who pays the fine, driver, passengers or both but it sucks either way if our driver was telling the truth about Uber being illegal in CO.
Guatape / Peñol. We took the Metro from Estadio to Niquía Station then an Uber to Guatape for 150 k COP. Caught the bus back for 14 k COP per person the the the Metro back to Estadio. If we had known which station to get off of the Metro, we could have round tripped to Guatape for 32,800 COP each, a little over $11.
HOTEL: Hotel Egina on C47 & La Setenta (70) was recommended by a friend. I recommend not staying there. They told us we would have to pay 50 k COP for every Chica after the first one. We were ready to leave & fight with booking punto com & our CC company's for a refund as the Hotel refused to give us the refund. We had a POW-wow with the Hotel Manager, Juan T. Wed am & assured him of our discretion, no noise, no drogas, no fiestas & no loud music. He said he would make an exception for us if we left a good review on Booking punto com, which we will. The rooms were nice enough, I think I got lucky & had the penthouse suite on the 8th floor. My friend was also on the 8th floor & we had it to ourselves as I didn't see another guest in the other 2 or 3 rooms the entire trip. I think they wanted us separated from the rest of the guests! Haha. No in-room safe so when we went to Guatape I put my passport, cash & ccs in the hotel safe Sat am before we left. They told me I could only access it during office hours. What they failed to tell me was the office and was closed on Sun so I would not be able to retrieve my stuff until 6 am Monday when Juan T. Got back to work. I had to borrow Chica $ from my friend which I hate doing. If I had a flight on Sunday, I'the have been f-ed. I bitched and complained (never raising my voice) so much that they called the mgr and he cane by and opened the safe about noon or so. Anyway, very nice hotel, very nice rooms, I would have to say it is not Chica friendly tho. Also the steam sauna was awesome!!
Food: We had breakfast at the hotel each morning as it was included in our room rate. We mostly at on La Setenta for lunch and dinner at Ay Que Rico Pollo which was very good and reasonably priced. We ate at a restaurant on the town square across from the church in Guatape. Dinner one night at La Pampa Parrilla Argentina in Laureles & lunch at La Coneja in Sabaneta. Both very good but I will not make an excursion just to eat there next trip.
CHICAS: Once against Fay-Boo ruled. I also continued to have great success with Mileroticos & this trip even PhotoPrepagos. I posted links to the 2 bad apples that I had, one from ME & 1 had ads on both. Sessioned with Has the first night. A lot of fun, great session, she's up for just about anything, but she sure does hide that big ole booty when she takes a selfie from above. 3 others asked not to give out their intel & refused to have their pics taken showing their face. Katherine Lizeth Garcia wanted 300 k COP + Taxi money so I declined. She is in the game, hotter than a $2 pistol & not shy about asking for 300 k. I politely turned her down. Plenty out there for ½ that much. I had a really tough time getting anyone to respond Sunday. And as usual, it is very difficult to get anyone up & ready before noon. Hit New Life a couple of times & the sessions were barely above average but you can't beat the price! We strolled behind Iglesia VeraCruz a couple of different times & yes we lived to tell about it. We were in the ventricle of the beast & didn't have by trouble whatsoever. There were 2 or 3 little spinner types that I liked, although one looked very [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902). I'm still leary about going into a short term hotel with one of the SWs.
TOURIST STUFF: Hit Guatape and Penol for the first time. Took una lancha (100 k COP) to Pablo's lake house and took the tour ($10 k COP / person). It was actually pretty cool if you have never been there. Every structure had hole knocked out (or into) the walls. Obviously people looking for hidden cash. The views are incredible. Went to Penol but didn't climb the rock due to my f-ed up knees. Again, spectacular views of the lakes & water surrounding the Monolith.
Pablo tour – We hired an Uber driver to take us to Pablo's safe house where he was killed, and it is now a Spanish Speaking School. The house / rooftop where he was shot is still walled off with graffiti all over it. Then we went to the Gravesite & amazingly enough, people are still leaving flowers on his grave. We then had to hire a cab to take us to La Catedral, which if you remember from my Dec MDE report, is a rest home for the elderly of MDE run by the city Govt. Again, amazing views of the city and the entire valley from his 'Prison'.
Like I keep telling my friends, each trip is better than the last & I'm already planning my next trip!
El Mechanico.
MDE 7/3-7/9/1
Pablo tour We hired an Uber driver to take us to Pablo's safe house where he was killed, and it is now a Spanish Speaking School. The house / rooftop where he was shot is still walled off with graffiti all over it. Then we went to the Gravesite & amazingly enough, people are still leaving flowers on his grave. We then had to hire a cab to take us to La Catedral, which if you remember from my Dec MDE report, is a rest home for the elderly of MDE run by the city Govt. Again, amazing views of the city and the entire valley from his 'Prison'.
Like I keep telling my friends, each trip is better than the last & I'm already planning my next trip!
El Mechanico.I went there also and a Pablo look-alike greeted us. It was quite eerie. He asked for something like 100.000 COP for admission!! Per person! It was no misunderstanding. The person I was with is Colombian and spoke fluent Spanish. Fortunately, Uber hadn't left yet and we got back in the car. Like, that was on the bottom of my list anyhow of things to do. It just so happened that it was on the way back from where we were coming from.
El Mechanico
07-12-18, 00:20
I went there also and a Pablo look-alike greeted us. It was quite eerie. He asked for something like 100.000 COP for admission!! Per person! It was no misunderstanding. The person I was with is Colombian and spoke fluent Spanish. Fortunately, Uber hadn't left yet and we got back in the car. Like, that was on the bottom of my list anyhow of things to do. It just so happened that it was on the way back from where we were coming from.That's pretty funny! There is always one like that at every historical tourist attraction. Are you talking about the cathedral the safe house or the graveyard. I have been to all three twice and have not seen anybody like that. Still pretty funny, I would not of paid him either.
EL Mechanico.
We strolled behind Iglesia VeraCruz a couple of different times & yes we lived to tell about it. We were in the ventricle of the beast & didn't have by trouble whatsoever. There were 2 or 3 little spinner types that I liked, although one looked very ...... I'm still leary about going into a short term hotel with one of the SWs.I've been up the stairs with some of those independents at VeraCruz & Raudal about a dozen times, nothing to worry about. Just check ID if they look young.
Probably so.
SA, which I have come to use exclusively, is mostly populated by "regular" chicas looking to supplement something. They are not hardcore for the most part. And for the most part, they do not fit the traits mentioned. Theses traits apply to the hardcore chicas. I shy away from them, hence my experience is different.Excuse my ignorance but could you please let me know what "SA" stands for?
Excuse my ignorance but could you please let me know what "SA" stands for?Sugar Daddy website, www.seekingarrangements.com.
Excuse my ignorance but could you please let me know what "SA" stands for?It stands for "seekingarrangement".
It definitely happened to my friend and then the first time I went to Mde my Airbnb host said the exact same thing to me.
The officers aren't dumb and if you're a Colombian living in the country I can totally see some bitterness being involved in how foreigners are coming in with $$ to take their women. I would say if you run into the wrong officer on the wrong day he can give you problems just for the heck of it. Considering any legal issues can be handled with a bribe things aren't so straight all the time.You can see some bitterness because you're trying to put US reactions on Colombians. But Colombians don't think that way. Except in Poblado, mostly around Parque Lleras, there simply aren't enough gringos in Medellin to be noticed. And the Colombians living around Parque Lleras aren't worried that some old, fat gringo is going to lure their estrato 6 wife away from them.
My experience was that I got nothing but polite and friendly from everyone. In a year of walking in all types of areas maybe 5 or 6 times someone gave me a sour look.
If you run into the wrong officer on the wrong day. I suppose so. I never ran into the wrong officer. Some smiled, some waved, only 1 ever hindered me. That was for about 15 seconds while he told me I couldn't drink beer in the park.
If your Airbnb host is telling you that they don't allow sex tourism, you didn't do your homework before renting.
That's pretty funny! There is always one like that at every historical tourist attraction. Are you talking about the cathedral the safe house or the graveyard. I have been to all three twice and have not seen anybody like that. Still pretty funny, I would not of paid him either.
EL Mechanico.I'm pretty sure it was the graveyard. I didn't know there was more than one "attraction. " I kind of think it's disgusting that people / the city are profiting from a notorious criminal and murderer.
It stands for "seekingarrangement".You can google it and you'll get the website in the results.
Mr Enternational
07-12-18, 16:21
We were going to take the Metro up to Madera Station then UBER to the airport but the Hotel staff convinced us to get a private car so we did for 70 k COP (My friends driver charged us 75 k COP from the airport to the Hotel Egina coming in). I have always said that someone's "friend" always charges more. My buddy was messing with a chick in Philippines and her dad was a taxi driver and tried to take him to the airport for $30 more than it would normally cost.
She is in the game, hotter than a $2 pistolLOL.
El Mechanico
07-12-18, 18:27
I'm pretty sure it was the graveyard. I didn't know there was more than one "attraction. " I kind of think it's disgusting that people / the city are profiting from a notorious criminal and murderer.With the Netflix hit series 'Narcos' came the renewed interest in all things Pablo. Unfortunately for the MDE, the city & Colombia will forever be linked to Pablo & the cocaine trafficking. The locals don't like it & even the taxistas & UBER drivers frown when we ask them to take us to Pablo's_ Some people still remember and or have forgiven his sins as there were flowers on his grave last Sunday.
El Mechanico.
Am I the only one who has trouble uploading fotos to this website? Freaking ridicolous!!
ColombiaLover
07-12-18, 20:25
Lucky guy. I am not a frequent visitor to Lleras, despite the fact that I travel to MDE once a month. But not longer ago I was "pulled over" (I was actually on foot) by the cops at about 5 in the afternoon. I was with a working girl who is also a friend. And her mom. And the cops hassled all of us big time. The guy kept saying "respect the park. " All we did was have a late lunch and then wait for her mom to finish work so they could go back to their barrio. Cops seems to be getting worse in MDE. At least in some areas.
If you run into the wrong officer on the wrong day. I suppose so. I never ran into the wrong officer. Some smiled, some waved, only 1 ever hindered me. That was for about 15 seconds while he told me I couldn't drink beer in the park.
Lucky guy. I am not a frequent visitor to Lleras, despite the fact that I travel to MDE once a month. But not longer ago I was "pulled over" (I was actually on foot) by the cops at about 5 in the afternoon. I was with a working girl who is also a friend. And her mom. And the cops hassled all of us big time. The guy kept saying "respect the park. " All we did was have a late lunch and then wait for her mom to finish work so they could go back to their barrio. Cops seems to be getting worse in MDE. At least in some areas.Last time was in late March. From mid July last year until late January this year I was in or through Parque Lleras at least 10 times a week. Almost every night plus frequent daytime visits. The beer incident was very close to Christmas. A buddy and I bought beers and sat down in the park to people watch. Cop came over and said we couldn't drink in the park, so we crossed the street and sat down on Calle 38, 30 feet away.
I don't know why I was never hassled. Especially since I spent so much time in places where gringos don't go. Must be my after shave.
Quagmire1974
07-13-18, 00:40
Am I the only one who has trouble uploading fotos to this website? Freaking ridicolous!!I posted a question about that issue in the "Letters to the Editor" forum. Not surprisingly, the folks who run ISG couldn't even take a second to answer my question. Meanwhile, those same folks have the nerve to say in the paragraph near the top of this website:
"Those same freedom-loving individuals who are from the US and affected by this might also consider talking to your local Representatives and Senators and letting them know you're pissed about the state of interference in your life these days."
So this website can't be bothered to answer a simple little question directed to them, while meanwhile, I'm supposed to stick my neck out and contact my legislators on behalf of ISG? Yeah, that's not happening. In life, one hand washes the other.
Mr Enternational
07-13-18, 00:41
You really do not get it, not all people want and value things as you do.
Not all mongers want the cheapest hooker with the highest dick mileage. Honestly, you are wasting your money. Who the fuck wants to spend his vacation in a dangerous ghetto / shithole fucking ratchet working girls?The owner of SA says that the site consists of 90% men and only 10% women. http://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhiToD3SZ8Gorso6r9.
The owner of SA says that the site consists of 90% men and only 10% women. http://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhiToD3SZ8Gorso6r9.And 90% of the men treat it as a prostitution site LOL.
ColombiaLover
07-13-18, 03:00
Good fortune or maybe it was because who you were with. I have noticed that 2 or more gringos have not gotten hassled. My problem came when I was with the chica and her mom. And the only other time anyone said anything to me was when I was walking around Lleras alone. The assumption must have been that I was looking for putas, which I was actually not (I would likely never pull a chica from Lleras).
That said, I have never been stopped by policy anywhere else. And I have frequented Popular, Aranjuez, Manrique, and Laureles. Even when a taxi has been pulled over (twice), they focused on the girls in the car and left me alone.
Last time was in late March. From mid July last year until late January this year I was in or through Parque Lleras at least 10 times a week. Almost every night plus frequent daytime visits. The beer incident was very close to Christmas. A buddy and I bought beers and sat down in the park to people watch. Cop came over and said we couldn't drink in the park, so we crossed the street and sat down on Calle 38, 30 feet away.
I don't know why I was never hassled. Especially since I spent so much time in places where gringos don't go. Must be my after shave.
The owner of SA says that the site consists of 90% men and only 10% women. http://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhiToD3SZ8Gorso6r9.But that 10% still might be a large number, I have met some really smoking hot SB's off that site (and WhatsYourPrice & SecretBenefits).
Been on vacations with some of them.
Some of my favs:
Good fortune or maybe it was because who you were with. I have noticed that 2 or more gringos have not gotten hassled. My problem came when I was with the chica and her mom. And the only other time anyone said anything to me was when I was walking around Lleras alone. The assumption must have been that I was looking for putas, which I was actually not (I would likely never pull a chica from Lleras).
That said, I have never been stopped by policy anywhere else. And I have frequented Popular, Aranjuez, Manrique, and Laureles. Even when a taxi has been pulled over (twice), they focused on the girls in the car and left me alone.That's why I hang in Centro. The cops have much bigger fish to fry there. LOL.
The closest I have gotten to Colombian police in 4 trips was when our cab got stopped at a check point around 1 am coming back from FaseII. I was thinking "uh-oh. " he talked to the cabbie, asked him who was in the back, he said "foreigners" and they waved us on.
Mr Enternational
07-13-18, 07:16
But that 10% still might be a large number, I have met some really smoking hot SB's off that site (and WhatsYourPrice & SecretBenefits).
Been on vacations with some of them.I'm not debating whether the 10% is a large number. I'm just pointing out that with the ratio of men to women on the site, the chicks from SA are no less used than any other chicks that us mongers are fucking for money.
The owner of SA says that the site consists of 90% men and only 10% women. http://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhiToD3SZ8Gorso6r9.Intuitively, that seems way out of proportion. I heard somewhere else that women outnumber men. The link given doesn't work for me. I did a search, and found this, though it's from 2013:
"Female to Male Ratio misleading".
4. 98/5 See More.
I am surprised to see the Men to Women ratio as almost 1:1, but I think that is very very misleading.
(1) Many of its male users are gay (approx. 20% of the website traffic). This may explain why even though the website has a 1 to 1 male to female ratio, as a hetero-sexual sugar daddy, I am enjoying a higher female to male ratio.
(2) Men can also sign up as Sugar Babies. And many of the sugar babies are in fact men seeking Sugar Mommies.
So while the number of men and women using the website may seem equal, the sugar daddy in search of a female sugar baby is still likely enjoying the much higher female to male ratio.
ColombiaLover
07-13-18, 14:17
The cost also keeps the number of men down. I joined for a month at one time. I think at that time a one month subscription was around $40 (this was a year ago). Now one month is closer to $90. So unless you are going to seriously use it, most guys are probably not going to pay that price just to screw around.
Intuitively, that seems way out of proportion. I heard somewhere else that women outnumber men. The link given doesn't work for me. I did a search, and found this, though it's from 2013:
"Female to Male Ratio misleading".
4. 98/5 See More.
I am surprised to see the Men to Women ratio as almost 1:1, but I think that is very very misleading.
(1) Many of its male users are gay (approx. 20% of the website traffic). This may explain why even though the website has a 1 to 1 male to female ratio, as a hetero-sexual sugar daddy, I am enjoying a higher female to male ratio.
(2) Men can also sign up as Sugar Babies. And many of the sugar babies are in fact men seeking Sugar Mommies.
So while the number of men and women using the website may seem equal, the sugar daddy in search of a female sugar baby is still likely enjoying the much higher female to male ratio.
The cost also keeps the number of men down. I joined for a month at one time. I think at that time a one month subscription was around $40 (this was a year ago). Now one month is closer to $90. So unless you are going to seriously use it, most guys are probably not going to pay that price just to screw around.Do the Colombian women on this site have USD expectations? This site is great to find non pros when using it in the states but after Jooks reports I will plan on trying it for my next trip to Mde.
Great report man. You went to all the spots I go to in centro. You are definitely right about the quality of service. Paying more doesn't mean better quality. I love looking for my diamonds in the rough in el centro for sure.
Had a great first trip to Colombia mid-June for 6-days, two in Cartagena and four in Medellin. My buddy and I are experienced mongers having been to Costa Rica, Panama, DR, St. Maarten, Curacao, multiple times over the past decade, Colombia has been high on our list of destinations but we have not been able to pull it off until now. It was worth the wait and can't wait to go again.
A little background, I am early 40's, gringo with basic to conversational Spanish, by friend is early 50's, Latin with fluent Spanish. We are both married so not interested in networking on Facebook, Tinder or Colombian Cupid, lining up GF Chicas and building a contact list for future trips. We are in-and-out, fuck as many as we can in a few short days, and forget them. It's not everyone's style, but works for us. So here was our trip..
I'm not debating whether the 10% is a large number. I'm just pointing out that with the ratio of men to women on the site, the chicks from SA are no less used than any other chicks that us mongers are fucking for money.I will answer this over in the Medellin Chit Chat thread.
The cost also keeps the number of men down. I joined for a month at one time. I think at that time a one month subscription was around $40 (this was a year ago). Now one month is closer to $90. So unless you are going to seriously use it, most guys are probably not going to pay that price just to screw around.Numbers are definitely misleading. Only a small number of the men on the site, on any site, ever pay. Which means they can't set up any meetings. A certain number of the female accounts are still accounts used by the website to convince you to pay a subscription. Other female accounts are scam accounts, people trying to get you to visit another website or do something other than set up a date.
Then there are the women who stopped checking the site after days. Any dating or arrangement site has the same issues.
IslandMonger, great report man!
About La Cueva, I just got back from a couple of weeks at the Mansion:
One night, 5 guys and 2 girls.
Next night, 6 guys and 20 girls.
Night after that, 8 guys and 7 girls.
Next night again, 2 guys and 18 girls.
That is just how it goes there. Luck of the Draw!
Do the Colombian women on this site have USD expectations? This site is great to find non pros when using it in the states but after Jooks reports I will plan on trying it for my next trip to Mde.I did a few dates off SA my 1st trip to MED. I'd say they expect more $ since they deal with to them are rich gringos mostly. I set up 2 TLN (all night) dates for 300 k ea.
Didn't use it on my next trips though, one date was cool and cute, the other had old photos and was a crazy party girl, wanted me to go to a after hours party at a house in the hills after we hit some bars, I declined. Might have been fun or I might have ended up in a shallow ditch.
I prefer the strip clubs where you can see the girl in the flesh and talk to her some 1st and gauge her attitude and sexiness in person. The make a TLN date after a test drive at the club to make sure she is fun in bed too.
HOTEL: Hotel Egina on C47 & La Setenta (70) was recommended by a friend. I recommend not staying there. They told us we would have to pay 50 k COP for every Chica after the first one. We were ready to leave & fight with booking punto com & our CC company's for a refund as the Hotel refused to give us the refund. We had a POW-wow with the Hotel Manager, Juan T. Wed am & assured him of our discretion, no noise, no drogas, no fiestas & no loud music. He said he would make an exception for us if we left a good review on Booking punto com, which we will. The rooms were nice enough, I think I got lucky & had the penthouse suite on the 8th floor. My friend was also on the 8th floor & we had it to ourselves as I didn't see another guest in the other 2 or 3 rooms the entire trip. I think they wanted us separated from the rest of the guests! Haha. No in-room safe so when we went to Guatape I put my passport, cash & ccs in the hotel safe Sat am before we left. They told me I could only access it during office hours. What they failed to tell me was the office and was closed on Sun so I would not be able to retrieve my stuff until 6 am Monday when Juan T. Got back to work. I had to borrow Chica $ from my friend which I hate doing. If I had a flight on Sunday, I'the have been f-ed. I bitched and complained (never raising my voice) so much that they called the mgr and he cane by and opened the safe about noon or so. Anyway, very nice hotel, very nice rooms, I would have to say it is not Chica friendly tho. Also the steam sauna was awesome!!Egina is my hotel of choice. I have stayed there 6 or 7 times. I always get the suite or junior suite. The standard room is as big as a bathroom.
They always copy my visitor's ID and let the up. They usually call me to come down when one shows up. I had never been charged or even heard of a 50 k fee. But 2 weeks ago, I heard from a friend that a friend of his was told of the fee at check-in. So I emailed the hotel company and was told that it's a long-standing policy. I then called the hotel itself, and spoke to one of the front desk staff and then a guy who could have been a manager. He told me that it is a company policy but they "waive it for me" as long as a chica doesn't stay overnight and / or eat breakfast. My friend has stayed there a few times and he has never heard of the fee either, so it must not only be waving it for me.
I would call the hotel chica tolerant, not chica friendly. I like the area. Relatively safe, good restaurants, supermarket within walking distance. Jumbo mall a couple blocks away.
Video of Huge penthouse / condo / Apartment for guys interested in staying in downtown central Medellin close to everything, the guy is renting the whole place or Rooms.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=TCXPuKVmvGg
SoberHans69
07-15-18, 21:57
Any tips for finding girls on Facebook?
Added a few girls on there who look like they might be P4P but what's the most polite way of asking if they fuck for money?
Video of Huge penthouse / condo / Apartment for guys interested in staying in downtown central Medellin close to everything, the guy is renting the whole place or Rooms.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=TCXPuKVmvGgYou need to check the link you posted, it's of flowing water.
Video of Huge penthouse / condo / Apartment for guys interested in staying in downtown central Medellin close to everything, the guy is renting the whole place or Rooms.
Update info.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9aKZNJmAiEM&t=219s
With the Netflix hit series 'Narcos' came the renewed interest in all things Pablo. Unfortunately for the MDE, the city & Colombia will forever be linked to Pablo & the cocaine trafficking. The locals don't like it & even the taxistas & UBER drivers frown when we ask them to take us to Pablo's_ Some people still remember and or have forgiven his sins as there were flowers on his grave last Sunday.
El Mechanico.
Am I the only one who has trouble uploading fotos to this website? Freaking ridicolous!!I was at Pablo's grave Saturday and there were fresh flowers there then.
Video of Huge penthouse / condo / Apartment for guys interested in staying in downtown central Medellin close to everything, the guy is renting the whole place or Rooms.
Update info.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9aKZNJmAiEM&t=219sCertainly Centrally located, that's right next to Parque Bolivar and the big brick church, the Catedral Basílica Metropolitana de Medellíand.
The 16th floor of Edifico Apabi at Calle 56 #47-14 it looks to be.
The Tall Man
07-16-18, 18:32
Video of Huge penthouse / condo / Apartment for guys interested in staying in downtown central Medellin close to everything, the guy is renting the whole place or Rooms.
Update info.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9aKZNJmAiEM&t=219sDamn any of us who have spent any time in Medellin knows exactly where this is located. Does he rent rooms or only the whole penthouse? Any ideas as to rates?
TTM.
If you are in Medellin and need service, party goods, chicas PM me for his number. He will treat you well and no BS.
Damn any of us who have spent any time in Medellin knows exactly where this is located. Does he rent rooms or only the whole penthouse? Any ideas as to rates?
TTM.He says in the vid that he will rent rooms if the place isn't rented out, he says rates "vary" on time of year and length of stay.
PepolesBuddy
07-17-18, 16:34
Anyone have an idea how the SIM card plans work in Medellin? Any suggestions where to buy? Are they monthly plans or prepaid plans and which is better service and cheaper?
I tried the search feature but nothing came up. Sorry guys.
El Mechanico
07-17-18, 21:05
Anyone have an idea how the SIM card plans work in Medellin? Any suggestions where to buy? Are they monthly plans or prepaid plans and which is better service and cheaper?
I tried the search feature but nothing came up. Sorry guys.Go upstairs after you get out of screening & before you exit. There is a little tienda / kiosk / store you can get a SIM card & data from. It is across from the 3 ATMs. They will install & test the number for you. Very cheap but your phone must be unlocked.
El Mechanico.
PolloNegro
07-17-18, 22:20
Anyone have an idea how the SIM card plans work in Medellin? Any suggestions where to buy? Are they monthly plans or prepaid plans and which is better service and cheaper?
I tried the search feature but nothing came up. Sorry guys.Buy a Medellin sim card through tigo, cheapest company, spend $50 k, have data & voice for a month. Pollonegro is out!
It's a terrific looking property in a prime location. I would love to have one just like it, but about half the size. It also looks like a place where you will meet many new people.
Damn any of us who have spent any time in Medellin knows exactly where this is located. Does he rent rooms or only the whole penthouse? Any ideas as to rates?
TTM.
The red headed guys seemed quite amped up, maybe unnaturally so.
Damn any of us who have spent any time in Medellin knows exactly where this is located. Does he rent rooms or only the whole penthouse? Any ideas as to rates?
TTM.
To sort of continue with Part 1.
I spent nearly 3 weeks in Medellin. One of the reasons for my trip was to investigate retirement along with a much-needed vacation. Retirement seems so do-able. Medellin is precisely the place I am looking for to spend my, uh, best years. It's got most everything I look for. FYI, I'm 66, in good health and good physical condition.
To reiterate what I said in my first report, I do not vacation to monger, or at least that's not the major priority. No judgment of anyone else, to each his own. Those interested primarily in casas and such probably won't relate much to this writing. I am not the type that wants or needs a different woman every day or multiple times a day. I prefer to find one or two or so women to spend time with and develop some sort of connection. I used Seeking Arrangements almost exclusively to find the women I was looking for. It turned out to be a good strategy for me.
Since my experience was only with SA with one exception, that is only what I will discuss. The majority of women on SA are seeking more than money and, in many circumstances, just travel or want an emotional connection. For the most part, they were young and gorgeous. They did not want to be treated like a sex object. Treating everyone with respect went a long way, something true in life in general.
I ended up meeting with about 8 women. The relations were not always sexual, and that was fine. There are many women that only look for platonic or use it like match.com. The non-sexual meets and several of the sexual ones cost nothing but coffee or whatever plus a taxi. One of my favorite finds was meeting up with a bright 18-year old college student and discussing life, politics, etc. Over a 3-hour lunch. I like to immerse myself in the culture when I travel. Traveling alone forces me to do just that because I have no one to talk to except the locals, or paisas in this case. I also got to practice my basic Spanish, and, in the end, I was a lot more comfortable speaking the language.
But this board is about sex and that's the dirt most of you want. SA women may be expensive or more expensive, but for me, it's worth the cost. You get amateurs that are only doing what they need to do to pay their tuition, rent or simply survive. And they are happy to do so if treated well. Many look for a connection and would never consider themselves prostitutes. And they're not, depending on your definition.
It got to a point where I got enough practice and intuition under my belt and, coupled with a little game, I was turning away women towards the end of my trip. That was tough! In the beginning of my stay, I set up multiple meets at the same time knowing that many would cancel. Sometimes they all cancelled. That is typical SA. But in the end, my odds improved greatly.
I stayed with several women for multiple hours and some for multiple days. They were mostly students and hotter than I could ever expect to be with in the US, especially for such a ridiculously low price. Yes, I know price is comparable and my comparison was to US prices.
For those interested in this type of relationship, I suggest you start getting accustomed to SA in Colombia before you get there. Granted, a monthly membership is nearly $90, but that probably helps keep the riff raff away and is worth the experience. It doesn't make sense to try to meet women online before you get there though. Plans change quickly. I also made a mistake of hooking up with a Cali woman before I got there. Even though she paid her own way to Medellin and didn't cost me much, it didn't turn out well. I suggest sticking to Medellin and don't be tempted to pay for a woman from Cali or wherever to visit based on chats and photos. There're enough choices to last a lifetime in Medellin.
As for photos, follow the golden rule. The worst looking photo online is probably representative. And try to get her to take a selfie so you have a better chance of seeing what she looks like currently.
Other stuff.
For my first week, I stayed at an Airbnb in Poblado, Soul. The guy I dealt with was an asshole, though he was a super host. It's a decent building, but I had lots of issues with the apartment. It's also not near anything within walking distance except a supermarket.
Parque Lleras at night completely grossed me out. It's full of drunken Americans, ear-deafening reggaetóand and hamburger and pizza places. And what appeared to be overpriced prostitutes. I couldn't escape fast enough.
The balance of my stay was spent in Laureles in Inntu Hotel, a super nice, what I would term a 4-star hotel for Colombia. The drawback was that bringing a guest was not cheap and frowned on. I didn't know that at first. Actually, I was banned from having guests in the end, haha.
As a result, on my last day I decided to step out of character and check out the scene that is most talked about here. However, it was a Sunday and I didn't realize many places were closed. I went to El Centro to see the street scene. I was grossed out by lack of talent. Nothing better than a 5. Loutron and Fase II were closed, 2 spots I would have loved to try. I ended up at Jade by Parque Lleras. It didn't seem to get good reviews here and it wasn't high on my list of places to try. But I was running out of time.
It is a ***** to find. It's kind of hidden away on a side street by the park and there are no signs at all, including on the buzzers. Suffice to say, with much determination, I found it. What a find! I entered to find 2 seemingly bored guys watching TV. They barely acknowledged me. Then mamasan came out and introduced me to the 2 girls working. One was an 8+, a 19-year old petite girl with typical Colombiana drop-dead gorgeous looks. The other wasn't as nice but not bad. I took the 19-year old for an hour. The cost was ridiculously cheap, 150 k for everything for an hour. I actually got a nice massage and Samantha was quite pleasant. I wish I found her sooner so I could convince her to spend time with me. It was a great way to spend my last day there.
It was an active vacation and I did lots of things in and outside Medellin, sometimes by myself, other times accompanied by a SA woman. You all probably know the touristy things to do or can easily go to TripAdvisor to find them. So, I won't bother to mention them. However, the highlight of the trip was a full day mountain bicycle tour going down the Andes starting at about 7000 or so feet. It was a 6000-foot descent. It may sound easy since 90% was downhill, but not quite. I'm still sore from the bumpy roads. Still, if you can ride a bike without fear, you can do the tour. I also had the best lunch in Colombia on the tour. The lunch was served at a private home and was the best meal I had in Medellin. The coffee was also the best. It is grown in the region we were cycling as well as roasted locally. I ended up finding a store in Provenza that sold the coffee and brought some to take home.
Speaking of food, I was extremely disappointed. Perhaps it was because I didn't know any better. All I found was mostly touristy food or street carts and small restaurants that served fried stuff, I. E. , empanadas. I had more typical Colombian food when traveling outside Medellin. In Medellin, I stuck mostly to the street carts or tiny restaurants in the less touristy areas that cost the equivalent of $2 or $3 for lunch. I found this far better than the alternatives, not to mention a lot cheaper.
Taxis are dirt cheap. And Uber is half the price of a taxi. I tried to take Uber whenever I could not only to save money, but the yellow taxis got lost too often. The address system in Medellin is confusing, to say the least. At least Uber drivers have navigators. Still, I had a ridiculous amount of Uber no-shows that I had to cancel and incurred a cancellation fee. I added up my cancellation fees and at about 90 cents, the total was about $20. Although you can theoretically get your money back through the app, it never worked, and I wrote to Uber for a refund. Also, Uber is very illegal in Colombia. Many drivers ask you to sit up front, so it appears they're not a taxi service. I heard more than one story of Uber getting pulled over on the way to the airport and the passengers had to disembark and wait for a white taxi. Uber is the same price as a regular taxi anyway to the airport.
I will return soon. And seriously consider retiring there.
Mr Enternational
07-18-18, 00:21
For those interested in this type of relationship, I suggest you start getting accustomed to SA in Colombia before you get there. Granted, a monthly membership is nearly $90, but that probably helps keep the riff raff away and is worth the experience. It doesn't make sense to try to meet women online before you get there though.Great report Jooks. I must be the riff raff that SA is trying to keep out. Someone wrote a big report on it a few months ago in the Philippines thread so I decided to make a profile so I could see the difference between those women and women from other sites. I don't know if I ever completed the profile, but I definitely never paid the $90, so I think they sent me an email saying they were kicking me off. I get 3 months on Cupid for $49 or $59 and there are so many other sites that are free, so I am pretty timid about $90 for 1 month.
But my mongering experience is pretty limited in Colombia because it is so easy to get normal chicks that you don't have to pay. Like you, I usually pick a spot for vacation (mostly a place for scuba diving) then look on ISG to see what the mongering options are should the need arise.
You are also right about contacting chicks too early. With so many guys hitting the chicks up (most who probably have no plans to even come) the memory and attention span is very short. Works better when you can say to a chick that you are in town and when can she meet up.
...Taxis are dirt cheap. And Uber is half the price of a taxi. I tried to take Uber whenever I could not only to save money, but the yellow taxis got lost too often. The address system in Medellin is confusing, to say the least. At least Uber drivers have navigators. Still, I had a ridiculous amount of Uber no-shows that I had to cancel and incurred a cancellation fee. I added up my cancellation fees and at about 90 cents, the total was about $20. Although you can theoretically get your money back through the app, it never worked, and I wrote to Uber for a refund. Also, Uber is very illegal in Colombia. Many drivers ask you to sit up front, so it appears they're not a taxi service. ...I used to have the same problem with Uber in Poblado, not arriving. I realized they would stop a half block away from where I requested. Now, after they confirm a driver, I send them a message with the name of the establishment where I am waiting. That works well for me. When I am in Laureles, they always come to the address I request. I suppose they are not watched as closely in Laureles. During my last trip, I had 100% success rate. One guy couldn't find Hooters, but I found him when he got near. I saw on GPS tracking that he was making many wrong turns.
I appreciate your sense of what makes you happy. I am four years older than you, and sometimes I just want to meet a lady to have someone to be with, with sex as an option. I have a few long-time lady friends who fit that bill. Many of the ladies in Medellin are so nice. I think they are surprised when someone shows an interest in them as a person, and not as a sex object.
...For my first week, I stayed at an Airbnb in Poblado, Soul. The guy I dealt with was an asshole, though he was a super host. It's a decent building, but I had lots of issues with the apartment. It's also not near anything within walking distance except a supermarket..I was actually planing to stay there since the apartment looked really good on the pictures. What was so bad about the guy? And were chicas allowed, guards etc?
I was actually planing to stay there since the apartment looked really good on the pictures. What was so bad about the guy? And were chicas allowed, guards etc?The apartments are managed by a management company. Except for my apartment which was owned by the super host. It got confusing because the host used some of the services of the management company. I never saw him and I don't think he was even in the area. I'm only mentioning this because the management company was great and the experience would have been a disaster without them. Problems with Internet, cable TV and lots of things missing like towels. I'm fairly certain these problems were specific to my host and apartment. If you're going to stay there, go through the management company.
I can only tell you about my apartment since I did not see the other apartments. I was told by management that it was one of the best apartments. I found the furnishings to be passable but on the cheap side. It's a decent place though. However, the location is out of the way and not close to much of anything. Taxi drivers (including Uber) had trouble finding it since it is relatively new. On the plus side, it is only about 1 km to Provenza, a semi-touristy area but nice. I went for my morning run there and back.
There was absolutely no problem with having chicas over. The front desk was 24/7 and all spoke English. Most of the time, no ID was even asked for. Personally, the area is not for me, but I wouldn't let my experience dissuade you. The problems were seemingly specific to the host.
StripperMan
07-18-18, 17:07
Well I've begun my homework on Facebook girls. I've read this section on Medellin going back a year, and have an excellent idea of prices vs. Time, quality, & quantity. I've actually built a small list of girls ready to come over to my place. I plan to stay at an Airbnb the entire trip. I have also contacted all Airbnb hosts to make sure it's ok to have overnight guests. As I prepare to book my Airbnb's, I'm concerned that some may be located where Facebook girls won't go?
A few of the Airbnb's are only about 1 km from Bar Maracaibo on Calle 53. Will I encounter a large section of Facebook girls who will say, "Sorry, I don't go there."
These particular Airbnb's are pretty nice. So I'll be able to forward the girl photos to help assuage any fears. I'm just worried the girls in Medellin will see this area like the girls in Bogota see the Santa Fe district.
I hope I'm just overthinking this, but I'the hate to book in this area, and then have to go rent a love motel somewhere because a good chunk of FB girls won't go there.
For my first week, I stayed at an Airbnb in Poblado, Soul. The guy I dealt with was an asshole, though he was a super host. It's a decent building, but I had lots of issues with the apartment. It's also not near anything within walking distance except a supermarket.
I imagine that is a drawback of many view apartments with a pool- they are not convenient or located on a busy street and hard to get to and from. I thought about staying there and management said bringing girls would not be a problem it was just that I like to be close to Ave Poblado, La 70, or Parque Poblado without being above Ave Poblado in Lleres. I like to walk out the door and be close to whatever I need. It is kind of difficult to need a cab every time I leave the building.
Parque Lleras at night completely grossed me out. It's full of drunken Americans, ear-deafening reggaetand and hamburger and pizza places. And what appeared to be overpriced prostitutes. I couldn't escape fast enough.
Yeah, it's nothing special is it? The last thing I want in Colombia are loud, obnoxious Americans.
SlapShot10
07-18-18, 21:26
Gents,
Exercise caution with your reports. Unfortunately, I just found out there is a rat among us, in the MDE forum. A girl that I would definitely repeat is pissed about photos that I posted (I can certainly understand, but in my twisted mind, I would also think it has helped her business).
I truly appreciate all of the reports, but I for one, will probably no longer be posting.
Well I've begun my homework on Facebook girls. I've read this section on Medellin going back a year, and have an excellent idea of prices vs. Time, quality, & quantity. I've actually built a small list of girls ready to come over to my place. I plan to stay at an Airbnb the entire trip. I have also contacted all Airbnb hosts to make sure it's ok to have overnight guests. As I prepare to book my Airbnb's, I'm concerned that some may be located where Facebook girls won't go?
A few of the Airbnb's are only about 1 km from Bar Maracaibo on Calle 53. Will I encounter a large section of Facebook girls who will say, "Sorry, I don't go there."
These particular Airbnb's are pretty nice. So I'll be able to forward the girl photos to help assuage any fears. I'm just worried the girls in Medellin will see this area like the girls in Bogota see the Santa Fe district.
I hope I'm just overthinking this, but I'the hate to book in this area, and then have to go rent a love motel somewhere because a good chunk of FB girls won't go there.Likely majority of them would come from the north of the city that is from areas even worse than the city center. It's even cheaper to send them home by taxi. But I would advise against staying in the center; other BMs find it tolerable.
StripperMan
07-19-18, 07:33
Likely majority of them would come from the north of the city that is from areas even worse than the city center. It's even cheaper to send them home by taxi. But I would advise against staying in the center; other BMs find it tolerable.Nice call on that many of these girls will be from areas worse than Centro. Throughout much of the day I've reached out to about a half dozen of my FB girls, and frankly asked if they would have a problem with going there. Not one has. So I'm going to rest assured I don't need to worry about this.
So I've got confirmation from all 3 Airbnb hosts that guests are no problem. I can work with building security to help check the girls ID's to make sure they are of age. I guess I can now focus on the other stuff like scams, or getting drugged, or just dealing with poor sexual performers. I'the like to think that Facebook will have a relatively low percentage of scam artists & thieves?
I think that because you can take a look at their FB profiles going back years that often include photos with family, etc. And that this gives you much more info about the girl than a Tinder page or certainly photosprepagos page. I'm sure scams occur on FB as well. I'the like to know what negative experiences others have had.
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