Medellin Reports

[Jooks]

I just got back and I'm planning a return in the near future. I could use a little advice to make for an even more perfect experience on my next outing.

1. While I was happy with my hotel room in Laureles, I wasn't overly thrilled about the particular location in Laureles. It was okay, but a little touristy. I stayed at Inntu Hotel on Circular 73 if that means anything. The main thing I disliked was a lack of "good" restaurant options nearby. The area is crowded with restaurants and tourists, but the restaurants are mostly touristy and are mostly Mexican, Italian or American. It seems Colombians love pasta and hamburgers. I do too, but not in Colombia. Is there a less touristy section in Laureles to stay or perhaps Envigado close to restaurants and shops? However, compared to Poblado, Laureles was far superior in terms of tourists.

2. I've never been to Cali. Is a side trip for a few days to a week worth it? I hear mixed things about Cali.

[Alliwantislove]

. . . I have also contacted all Airbnb hosts to make sure it's ok to have overnight guests. . . .Did you make it clear that you were asking not only about the host's policy but also about the building's policy? At least one guy has reported here before that he had an ok from the host but still could not take a girl to his room because of the building's policy.

Here's a free multi-million idea for someone. Start a web site called HobbyingBnb. Accommodations for Mongerers.

Bob.

[Kelso1]

I just got back and I'm planning a return in the near future. I could use a little advice to make for an even more perfect experience on my next outing.

1. While I was happy with my hotel room in Laureles, I wasn't overly thrilled about the particular location in Laureles. It was okay, but a little touristy. I stayed at Inntu Hotel on Circular 73 if that means anything. The main thing I disliked was a lack of "good" restaurant options nearby. The area is crowded with restaurants and tourists, but the restaurants are mostly touristy and are mostly Mexican, Italian or American. It seems Colombians love pasta and hamburgers. I do too, but not in Colombia. Is there a less touristy section in Laureles to stay or perhaps Envigado close to restaurants and shops? However, compared to Poblado, Laureles was far superior in terms of tourists.

2. I've never been to Cali. Is a side trip for a few days to a week worth it? I hear mixed things about Cali.It is hot as hell in Cali, but one of the best places to find non pros. I mean real non pros. If you can dance you can really do good there. Some Spanish is needed to really hit the jackpot. I have been there twice, and both times I did well there almost without trying.

As far as mongering things are very spread out, but many, many good options.

[DramaFree11]

I just got back and I'm planning a return in the near future. I could use a little advice to make for an even more perfect experience on my next outing.

1. While I was happy with my hotel room in Laureles, I wasn't overly thrilled about the particular location in Laureles. It was okay, but a little touristy. I stayed at Inntu Hotel on Circular 73 if that means anything. The main thing I disliked was a lack of "good" restaurant options nearby. The area is crowded with restaurants and tourists, but the restaurants are mostly touristy and are mostly Mexican, Italian or American. It seems Colombians love pasta and hamburgers. I do too, but not in Colombia. Is there a less touristy section in Laureles to stay or perhaps Envigado close to restaurants and shops? However, compared to Poblado, Laureles was far superior in terms of tourists.

2. I've never been to Cali. Is a side trip for a few days to a week worth it? I hear mixed things about Cali.

I lived in Colombia for 3 months, not sure what was worse the food or the service, it was so bad, even in the good restaurants Girls not bad, but not for me prefer Russia or Mexico.

[Mr Enternational]

Did you make it clear that you were asking not only about the host's policy but also about the building's policy? At least one guy has reported here before that he had an ok from the host but still could not take a girl to his room because of the building's policy.

Here's a free multi-million idea for someone. Start a web site called HobbyingBnb. Accommodations for Mongerers.That is actually a terrible idea. As you yourself alluded to the building's policy. No neighbors anywhere want hookers paraded in and out of their building. For this main reason airbnb has been banned by the govt in Thailand and in most cultures where prostitution is tolerated locals use love motels.

[Fun Luvr]

1. While I was happy with my hotel room in Laureles, I wasn't overly thrilled about the particular location in Laureles. It was okay, but a little touristy. I stayed at Inntu Hotel on Circular 73 if that means anything. The main thing I disliked was a lack of "good" restaurant options nearby. The area is crowded with restaurants and tourists, but the restaurants are mostly touristy and are mostly Mexican, Italian or American. It seems Colombians love pasta and hamburgers. I do too, but not in Colombia. Is there a less touristy section in Laureles to stay or perhaps Envigado close to restaurants and shops? However, compared to Poblado, Laureles was far superior in terms of tourists.It sounds like you found the restaurants near the First and Second Parks of Laureles. If you go a little further out, near the Floresta Metro station, you will find many local restaurants. You will not see many tourists. You are also close to the metro, so you can get to other areas easily. Uber is readily available there. I have stayed in a couple of airbnb apartments in that area.

[JjWalker03]

Hey guys,

So I'll be returning to Medellin. Plan on returning to New Life, Aiffe and the Maracaibo Bar. Is there any other casas that you would recommend? Any strip clubs? Anything in general? Like the 18-22, since I'm young myself. Also the street areas? What street are they? Would greatly appreciate. Trying to write a great report when I come back.

[Combo]

I just got back and I'm planning a return in the near future. I could use a little advice to make for an even more perfect experience on my next outing.

1. While I was happy with my hotel room in Laureles, I wasn't overly thrilled about the particular location in Laureles. It was okay, but a little touristy. I stayed at Inntu Hotel on Circular 73 if that means anything. The main thing I disliked was a lack of "good" restaurant options nearby. The area is crowded with restaurants and tourists, but the restaurants are mostly touristy and are mostly Mexican, Italian or American. It seems Colombians love pasta and hamburgers. I do too, but not in Colombia. Is there a less touristy section in Laureles to stay or perhaps Envigado close to restaurants and shops? However, compared to Poblado, Laureles was far superior in terms of tourists.

2. I've never been to Cali. Is a side trip for a few days to a week worth it? I hear mixed things about Cali.Medellin is loaded with Mexican, Italian, Japanese, Peruvian, American etc restaurants because a lot of people aren't huge fans of the native Colombian food. IMO it can be very satisfying (e. G. Bandeja Paisa), but it's not fine cuisine.

I love Cali. As the other poster said, it's much easier to find non-pros than in Medellin. And if you're into dancing (Salsa, Afro-Cuban), you will love it. Provided you're staying more than a few days, you can immerse yourself in the scene and you will meet lots of non-pros. Weather-wise it's hotter than Medellin, but not as hot as Cartagena.

[Eszpresszo]

But I would advise against staying in the center; other BMs find it tolerable.Why? The majority of the action is in Centro. What other neighborhood can you stay in where there is so much action within walking distance if you are staying in the right place? What did find you "intolerable" about it, personally?

[Knowledge]

You can post reports without including personal details or identifiable full facial photos without girls' permission. This kind of "rat amongst us" issue comes up pretty regularly. I can't remember ever seeing something similar on the Colombian counterpart forums. The reason is you never find candid photos of girls who haven't given their permission and you never see personal details. Believe me, girls are fully aware of the Colombian sites.


Gents,

Exercise caution with your reports. Unfortunately, I just found out there is a rat among us, in the MDE forum. A girl that I would definitely repeat is pissed about photos that I posted (I can certainly understand, but in my twisted mind, I would also think it has helped her business).

I truly appreciate all of the reports, but I for one, will probably no longer be posting.

[Knowledge]

Of course girls have no problem going to Centro. I hope no one really believes girls from Paris or Comuna 13 do their shopping at Santa Fe or Oviedo Mall.


Nice call on that many of these girls will be from areas worse than Centro. Throughout much of the day I've reached out to about a half dozen of my FB girls, and frankly asked if they would have a problem with going there. Not one has. So I'm going to rest assured I don't need to worry about this.

So I've got confirmation from all 3 Airbnb hosts that guests are no problem. I can work with building security to help check the girls ID's to make sure they are of age. I guess I can now focus on the other stuff like scams, or getting drugged, or just dealing with poor sexual performers. I'the like to think that Facebook will have a relatively low percentage of scam artists & thieves?

I think that because you can take a look at their FB profiles going back years that often include photos with family, etc. And that this gives you much more info about the girl than a Tinder page or certainly photosprepagos page. I'm sure scams occur on FB as well. I'the like to know what negative experiences others have had.

[Jooks]

It sounds like you found the restaurants near the First and Second Parks of Laureles. If you go a little further out, near the Floresta Metro station, you will find many local restaurants. You will not see many tourists. You are also close to the metro, so you can get to other areas easily. Uber is readily available there. I have stayed in a couple of airbnb apartments in that area.Yes, I was right next to the second park. I'm not familiar with the Floresta station. Is it near the Stadium station? Stadium Station was about 1 km from me.

Any advice on how best to look for either an apartment or hotel in the area? My concern is that I won't be able to tell from the address where the apartment or hotel is located.

[Jooks]

Medellin is loaded with Mexican, Italian, Japanese, Peruvian, American etc restaurants because a lot of people aren't huge fans of the native Colombian food. IMO it can be very satisfying (e. G. Bandeja Paisa), but it's not fine cuisine.

I love Cali. As the other poster said, it's much easier to find non-pros than in Medellin. And if you're into dancing (Salsa, Afro-Cuban), you will love it. Provided you're staying more than a few days, you can immerse yourself in the scene and you will meet lots of non-pros. Weather-wise it's hotter than Medellin, but not as hot as Cartagena.Yes, bandeja paisa! Surprisingly, no restaurants near, or any that I found, served it.

I suppose I should mosey over to the Cali forum, but while I'm here, any suggestions about where to stay in Cali, like which area and any recommended hotels or apartments?

[Fun Luvr]

Yes, I was right next to the second park. I'm not familiar with the Floresta station. Is it near the Stadium station? Stadium Station was about 1 km from me.

Any advice on how best to look for either an apartment or hotel in the area? My concern is that I won't be able to tell from the address where the apartment or hotel is located.The Floresta station is the next station out from the Estadio station. I find the apartments on airbnb. When you search airbnb, it has a map to show where each apartment is located.

[Jooks]

The Floresta station is the next station out from the Estadio station. I find the apartments on airbnb. When you search airbnb, it has a map to show where each apartment is located.Thanks, and sorry to belabor this. My sense of direction was never all there.

I'm trying to picture where Floresta Station is in relation to the Stadium. My morning run took me first to the Stadium. I think going from Cra. 73 and then I made a right (N, W, E, S. No idea) and ended up at another station with a big open area and lots of vendors. Would that be Floresta?

[Balboa]

Yes, bandeja paisa! Surprisingly, no restaurants near, or any that I found, served it.

I suppose I should mosey over to the Cali forum, but while I'm here, any suggestions about where to stay in Cali, like which area and any recommended hotels or apartments?I like staying in the north part of Cali.

Near the Torre de Cali hotel.

I was just there last week.

Brought back really good memories!

Cali was the place to be before Medellin got much safer and now more popular among tourists and mongers LOL.

[SoberHans69]

Any tips for finding girls on Facebook?

Added a few girls on there who look like they might be P4P but what's the most polite way of asking if they fuck for money?Anyone got any advice please?

Added a few and they have agreed to hang out but need to make sure they are P4P and don't think I want a Colombian girlfriend.

[Fun Luvr]

Thanks, and sorry to belabor this. My sense of direction was never all there.

I'm trying to picture where Floresta Station is in relation to the Stadium. My morning run took me first to the Stadium. I think going from Cra. 73 and then I made a right (N, W, E, S. No idea) and ended up at another station with a big open area and lots of vendors. Would that be Floresta?I don't know E, W, N, and S there either. Florester is the next station past Estadio if you were going from downtown. Floresta has a lot of vendors around it, but it's not an open area. I think you probably went to the Suramericana station. Going from your hotel, you would turn left at the Estadio station to go to Floresta.

[Fun Luvr]

Any tips for finding girls on Facebook?

Added a few girls on there who look like they might be P4P but what's the most polite way of asking if they fuck for money?Ask them to come to your hotel or apartment. If they agree, it's almost a sure thing they are P4P, unless it is a very inexperienced chica. Some may ask what are your plans. Tell them you want to go to bed with them. If they are not P4P, and they get upset, then they won't talk to you again. The very few I have encountered who are not P4P are still polite in saying they don't do that.

[BkkBadBoy]

I did 4 nights in BOG and now it was time to see MDE. Travelling with my brother, another horn-dog, we arrived in MDE around 8 pm. Checked into Hotel San Fernando Plaza. Around $64 a night with breakfast, gym and a pool. Girl friendly, but I'll get to that later.

1st night following the Chica list, thanks World Travel 69 (I was never able to download the map) we went to Conejitas Bar Show, Carrera 53 # 51-58. I found a super sweet Venezuelan named Valery, 1st day there. She convinced me she was special so I agreed to 70 k for 30 min (should be 50 k). I watched her pay? K for the room. My brother paid 50 k all in. Chica list quoted 50 k. Anyway she was really nice and fun, CBJ, CFS, DATY, multi pos and nice conversation. Neighborhood was really seedy that late, around 11 PM. We walked around a little but the next bar wasn't as good. A little spooky walking around with my wallet and cell phone. Later during my stay I was on this exact same street and it was filled with people and street stalls. There were another 4 or 5 girls there I would have been very happy with that night.

Day 2 we went to New Life in Villa Nueva, Calle 56 (Bolivia) # 43-39. Cubicle for viewing with a drink. 16 ladies step in for 10 secs giving name. We had a notepad and a pen. I goes very fast. I picked one he picked one, off we went. Price list in the cubicle says 50 k - 30 min, 65 k - 45 min. My girl had oil on her silicone boobs and that's what I wanted. She upsold me on a BBBJ and 'special" service, I was OK with that as I wanted to see how it turned out. Good fun, BBBJ, DT, 69, multi pos, all oily. About 4 girls of the 16 I would have been happy with. We enjoyed the lively walking area's around Parque Barrio and had some dinner. My brother hit on a beautiful girl we saw in the restaurant on Calle 53 (he got her number and had the full freebee GFE with her for the next two days). After dinner we went to the 2 strips near there -Ejecutiva Strip Club and Club Maracaibo. This was around 7-8 PM. Nice fare but lot's of local guys too, choose quickly. Both bars had around 20 girls, 5-6 girl above 6's, the rest were so so. It's Friday night, we are back in the hotel room at midnight, I'm all dressed to go out to Lleras Park but my bro is doing WhatsApp with the girl he met. 2 AM and he NOW want's to go out. I'm sleepy, should have gone on my own as Sat I saw what it is all about.

Day 3 I'm exploring language schools to study Spanish, we go to El Tesoro for the city wide view. Bro makes dinner plans with his normal girl. 8:30 PM they go to dinner. I have a few beers in the hotel and go out at 9:30. I end up meeting them after dinner in Parque Lleras area and we have some fun chit chat with drinks (neither of us speak much Spanish and she spoke no English) Broken Spanish and Google translate, we all had a fun time, lot's of laughter.

We split up so they could go do their business. I wondered around for a bit then ran into two street walkers. I was immediately hot to go, I was feeling charitable so I invited her friend too. Bad idea as you will see later. 150 k each agreed upon we get into a taxi just as the rain starts. At my hotel we discover that the girls must have ID at night. The 2nd girl doesn't have any so they tell me they know a hotel to go to nearby. 7 min later enter Las Cabannas buy taxi, 50 k per person (might be less pre-booked) We enter the room that has a stripper pole, sex couch, Jacuzzi tub, a big bed and an excellent sound system. All the mini bar items, drinks, condoms, snacks. The girls (around 19 yrs old) strip down to thongs and start music, dancing and filling the tub with bubbles. Sexy dancing on the pole, tub 3 together then I sat on the couch for the 1st one to start CBJ and CFS, then we moved to the bed all together. I start some foreplay but then find out they are "familia" cousins, and they won't touch each other or do lesbian. Oh well. I still have another girl to get inside. I enter the second girl with a new condom while the other plays with herself and we rock and roll to the music. Natural, young beautiful bodies. Heavenly. I was willing to go for the second round as agreed but they seemed to want to end it for less COP. Oh well, I was drunk and sleepy so I was OK with it. They only offered Facebook as a contact so they sent a friend request from my FB to themselves. Back to my hotel to pay them off from my safe and we agreed to meet the next day. I slept well.

Sadly no friend add on FB but I had MUC, BCN and LIS planned for the next week where I will have plenty of nooky. But I hope to find the 1st one again as she was perfect for me. I will post in MUC reports, follow if you want to hear about the Polish girl I met there. Barcelona and Lisbon to follow as well.

I am going back to Medellin on the 10th of Aug for one month of Spanish study. PM me if you will be in town and need a wingman or a drinking buddy (10 Aug to 9 Sept).

P.S. My brothers girl had no ID either and ended up in Las Cabannas the same night. We probably were only 2 cabanas away from each other in a motel with a paid Hotel empty.

P.S. S If anyone has FB contacts in MDE maybe you know her as Rubi Rose. Please get her to add me.

[Lefeu]

...need to make sure they are P4P and don't think I want a Colombian girlfriend.In the P4 P world, girls use the word "cita", which means appointment in Spanish. If you ask for a cita, and she agrees to come, you are in business.

[StripperMan]

BBVA Bank 300 k max, no fee.

Davivienda 400 k max, no fee.

Servibanca 780 k max, 12 k fee per withdrawal.

Bancolombia 600 k max, 12 k fee per withdrawal.

Banco de Bogota 600 k max, 10.5 k fee per withdrawal.

—This was the result of my research a year ago for my trip to Bogota. I assume the fees are the same in Medellin?

—I believe Bancolombia recently instilled this fee. It was free in 2017 for me, but not in Mar-18.

—I have only withdrawn from Bancolombia and Servibanca.

[Mr Enternational]

In the P4 P world, girls use the word "cita", which means appointment in Spanish. If you ask for a cita, and she agrees to come, you are in business.They use the same word in English. Cita means date.

[Methius]

I don't know E, W, N, and S there either. Florester is the next station past Estadio if you were going from downtown. Floresta has a lot of vendors around it, but it's not an open area. I think you probably went to the Suramericana station. Going from your hotel, you would turn left at the Estadio station to go to Floresta.You want the orange line, towards La Aurora.

[Fun Luvr]

BBVA Bank 300 k max, no fee.

Davivienda 400 k max, no fee.

Servibanca 780 k max, 12 k fee per withdrawal.

Bancolombia 600 k max, 12 k fee per withdrawal.

Banco de Bogota 600 k max, 10.5 k fee per withdrawal.

This was the result of my research a year ago for my trip to Bogota. I assume the fees are the same in Medellin?

I believe Bancolombia recently instilled this fee. It was free in 2017 for me, but not in Mar-18.

I have only withdrawn from Bancolombia and Servibanca.Davivienda is 320 max per withdrawal, but you can do two withdrawals, back-to-back. BBVA also allows two withdrawals back-to-back.

You are correct, Bancolombia now charges a fee. I have never been able to withdraw more than 300 k per transaction. When I did two transactions back-to-back to get 600 k, they charged 12 k for each.

I don't know the amount of fee the others charge, but earlier this year I verified that they do charge a fee. I also checked some other banks which I don't remember the names, but they all charged a fee, except BBVA and Davienda.

[StripperMan]

Davivienda is 320 max per withdrawal, but you can do two withdrawals, back-to-back. BBVA also allows two withdrawals back-to-back.

You are correct, Bancolombia now charges a fee. I have never been able to withdraw more than 300 k per transaction. When I did two transactions back-to-back to get 600 k, they charged 12 k for each.

I don't know the amount of fee the others charge, but earlier this year I verified that they do charge a fee. I also checked some other banks which I don't remember the names, but they all charged a fee, except BBVA and Davienda.Thanks for confirming Bancolombia now charges a fee. Also, I do cash-advance withdrawals using a credit card. So the low limits at BBVA & Davivienda are no good for me.

I belive the fee is 12 k at Servibanca. Can anyone confirm that?

[JjBee62]

Davivienda is 320 max per withdrawal, but you can do two withdrawals, back-to-back. BBVA also allows two withdrawals back-to-back.

You are correct, Bancolombia now charges a fee. I have never been able to withdraw more than 300 k per transaction. When I did two transactions back-to-back to get 600 k, they charged 12 k for each.

I don't know the amount of fee the others charge, but earlier this year I verified that they do charge a fee. I also checked some other banks which I don't remember the names, but they all charged a fee, except BBVA and Davienda.At one time I was able to get up to 2 million out from Davivienda at Santa Fe mall, with no fee. A friend just tried a few weeks ago and the limit was 400 k with a 15 k fee.

This info is 6 months old. If you are in the area and your card works in their ATM, Banco Pichincha had no fee and allowed 1 million per withdrawal, with multiple withdrawals on the same transaction. Watched my roommate pull out 6 million back in December. They only have a couple of branches. The only one I've been to is south of Santa Fe mall, across from the DHL building.

[Combo]

Yes, I was right next to the second park. I'm not familiar with the Floresta station. Is it near the Stadium station? Stadium Station was about 1 km from me.

Any advice on how best to look for either an apartment or hotel in the area? My concern is that I won't be able to tell from the address where the apartment or hotel is located.I like El Peñon and San Antonio or even a bit farther South near Parque de Perro. I don't particularly like la Sexta. There is night life around there, I just don't like the vibe. Some guys like to be farther North near Chipichapi shopping center. I don't like being there as you are sort of far away from stuff. I like to be able to walk out of my apartment and have cafes, bars, parks nearby.

For your guide, the "nice" areas in Cali aren't as expansive as those in Medellin (Poblado, Belen, Laureles, Envigado). It's probably a more dangerous city vs Medellin (though Medellin has plenty of no-go zones).

[Smokers Rule]

Planning my third trip to MDE now. The past two times I've stayed at nice AirBnBs with pools, hot tubs, etc. I'm kind of a hotel snob and like good places.

I've never been to the Mansion and thought about it this trip, but the only thing available is M2 Room 210, which I gather given the prices is maybe the smallest / worst room.

I'm contemplating just getting this room for two nights just to have access to La Cueva and seeing what this mansion stuff is all about, but also getting another place. Is this crazy? Would it be worth it or no?

[Mr Enternational]

I'm contemplating just getting this room for two nights just to have access to La Cueva and seeing what this mansion stuff is all about, but also getting another place. Is this crazy? Would it be worth it or no?Have you RTFF lately?


I was a bit disappointed with the quantity of girls in the Cave at Mansion but we never hung around there for more than an hour, and I think we kept going at odd times when things were slow. It's not a place like Del Rey in Costa Rica that you can grab a girl for a quickie whenever you want, its more GFE and most of the guys we met there were single and networking most of their chicas on FB.


About La Cueva, I just got back from a couple of weeks at the Mansion:

One night, 5 guys and 2 girls.

Next night, 6 guys and 20 girls.

Night after that, 8 guys and 7 girls.

Next night again, 2 guys and 18 girls.

That is just how it goes there. Luck of the Draw!

[Smokers Rule]

Have you RTFF lately?Yes, I have.

My question wasn't so much about the quality of the girls at La Cueva, but rather about the value (as a newbie) of access to a location where there are like-minded people. Specifically, I was hoping to get a response for someone who has done the same thing as I contemplate doing: getting a very low-cost room just to hang out there.

But I thank you for your top-notch, snarky feedback.

[Mr Enternational]

Yes, I have.

My question wasn't so much about the quality of the girls at La Cueva, but rather about the value (as a newbie) of access to a location where there are like-minded people. Specifically, I was hoping to get a response for someone who has done the same thing as I contemplate doing: getting a very low-cost room just to hang out there.

But I thank you for your top-notch, snarky feedback.Well if you just happen to go when there are 5 guys and 2 girls, I would say there would not be much value in that. Or if you spend $70 for a room plus another $70 for a chick then I would say there is definitely no value in that; not when you consider Medellin is crawling with way cheaper chicks and way cheaper places to stay. There are like-minded people at every hooker joint in Medellin. Don't know many mongers that are going to Medellin for the guys though.

I wasn't trying to be a dick. It is just that 2 people in the last couple of weeks posted that there was nothing special about the place. Didn't know if you had seen the reports or not, so I called myself being nice enough to waste my time putting their statements into a neat package for you. But I see that went over like a pregnant pole vaulter.

P. S. If you had really read it then you would have known that IslandMonger said he was diappointed with the QUANTITY of girls and not the quality as you have mistakenly referred to being the gist of the cutouts. There was not one thing said about quality.

[ColombiaLover]

When I stayed at the Castillo in the past, 210 was actually my room of choice because is was on the lower level next to the pool. It was private. Unfortunate, things changed a little bit when Robert put the taco kitchen in the room next door. And when the pool and backyard was being renovated. The kitchen is still there, but I would hope the renovations are finally done. All of that said, you do have peace and privacy at night.

I have done what you are suggesting. Have a room at Castillo and then my own apartment. And then I make a decision about where I will primarily stay. I usually didn't do it for the entire trip, but for a few days to get the numbers for new talent. If you are going to stay in the Castillo with plans to go to La Cueva, I recommend Thursday and Friday night. Any other day is a crap shoot. Thursdays and Fridays are usually pretty steady.


Planning my third trip to MDE now. The past two times I've stayed at nice AirBnBs with pools, hot tubs, etc. I'm kind of a hotel snob and like good places.

I've never been to the Mansion and thought about it this trip, but the only thing available is M2 Room 210, which I gather given the prices is maybe the smallest / worst room.

I'm contemplating just getting this room for two nights just to have access to La Cueva and seeing what this mansion stuff is all about, but also getting another place. Is this crazy? Would it be worth it or no?

[Big Boss Man]

Planning my third trip to MDE now. The past two times I've stayed at nice AirBnBs with pools, hot tubs, etc. I'm kind of a hotel snob and like good places.

I've never been to the Mansion and thought about it this trip, but the only thing available is M2 Room 210, which I gather given the prices is maybe the smallest / worst room.

I'm contemplating just getting this room for two nights just to have access to La Cueva and seeing what this mansion stuff is all about, but also getting another place. Is this crazy? Would it be worth it or no?Although I have never stayed at the mansion myself, I have had one very experienced monger tell me that the best way to approach Medellin is to go to the Mansion the first couple on days and connect with all the chicas there on Facebook and then you are set for the rest of your time. Otherwise you will have to rely on establishments and their madams, taxi drivers and the prepago sites. If you are not a fan of the central casas and strip clubs then you will end up paying more than having an extensive Facebook list. The taxi drivers and madams need their cut. Plus the Facebook chicas based on reporting tend to hang around longer at your apartment. My experienced friend pays between 150-200 k for home delivery. I pay between $200 k and 300 K for home delivery not having a Facebook list. Here is a conversation I had with a prepago from the websites on Whatsapp.

+57 321 4469718: Si amor.

+57 321 4469718: Me mandas LOS datos nombre del hotel numero de habitacióand why tu nombre.

+57 321 4469718: Te cuesta 300 la hora amor.

Me: Usualmente pago 250 por 90 minutos. Prefiero en la boca sin condóand.

+57 321 4469718: Ahh no amor no lo recibo en la boca.

Me: No oral natural?

[+57 321 4469718: Amor el oral sería natural 30 adicional why mi valor es ese no otro.

I declined this one. So getting a Facebook list has value.

[Combo]

Yes, I have.

My question wasn't so much about the quality of the girls at La Cueva, but rather about the value (as a newbie) of access to a location where there are like-minded people. Specifically, I was hoping to get a response for someone who has done the same thing as I contemplate doing: getting a very low-cost room just to hang out there.

But I thank you for your top-notch, snarky feedback.Actually I think the value of the Mansion (and el Castillo up the hill) goes beyond the girls that may or may not be hanging around the place. The girls on-premise can be really good or really weak with no rhyme or reason. However I like that there is typically a camaraderie among the guests. To me this has value if you are visiting Medellin by yourself. It's nice to have like-minded people around. If the girls on site isn't happening, you have fellow guests to go out to Strip bars with or to hit the casas. Or just to going out to lunch or dinner with. It's generally a pretty sociable place, sort of a relaxed frat house atmosphere.

Of course, some guys don't give a crap about this and those guys are better off just getting an apartment (you'll get a nicer place for less money). There's certainly nothing magical about the girls that come to the Mansion. Most are the same old faces that have been coming for years - generally not the creme de la creme of Medellin.

[Smokers Rule]

I appreciate the responses from those of you who responded with opinions on this. I may try it out

@ Mr En - No worries man, you just seemed annoyed. You just didn't understand what I was asking, it's cool. Thanks for your response.

[Jbj64]

You can do a search on Airbnb with the map and it will show you the metro stations. I ONLY stay in the area near the stadium estadio and floresta stations. It is walking distance to Energy and Tantra massage places and there are quite a few Mileroticos chicas that have places near La 70 or in Laurles area. Try pulling up google maps side by side with the Airbnb maps then get your self familar with the major streets and locate the metro stops. I love taking the metro around SO cheap 75 cents if you get the civica green card, just have to show your passport. I use the metro to go to Poblado and walk up the hill, good exercise.


Yes, I was right next to the second park. I'm not familiar with the Floresta station. Is it near the Stadium station? Stadium Station was about 1 km from me.

Any advice on how best to look for either an apartment or hotel in the area? My concern is that I won't be able to tell from the address where the apartment or hotel is located.

[Queens35]

I have a trip coming up next week and I'm looking through ads on Photoprepagos and Mileroticos and I'm seeing plenty of chicas under 150 k, even as low as 70 k per hour. No need to deal with the BS drama of FB / Mansion princesses and their 150 k or 200 k PLUS taxi prices.

Obviously, it's not for everybody. The ability to hold a basic conversation in Spanish is necessary. Also for a newbie, I wouldn't recommend it.

[MedellinGringo]

Planning my third trip to MDE now. The past two times I've stayed at nice AirBnBs with pools, hot tubs, etc. I'm kind of a hotel snob and like good places.

I've never been to the Mansion and thought about it this trip, but the only thing available is M2 Room 210, which I gather given the prices is maybe the smallest / worst room.

I'm contemplating just getting this room for two nights just to have access to La Cueva and seeing what this mansion stuff is all about, but also getting another place. Is this crazy? Would it be worth it or no?Of course it is worth it. But you really need to stay more than two days and make sure you stop by during the day to catch the pool action and not just La Cueva at night.

I have been mongering in Medellin for over five years now and I still stay at the Mansion from time to time.

When I stay at the Mansion I already have a line up of facebook chicks that I'm going to go out with. I like to stay at the Mansion just to meet up to 20 or so chicks a day that I didn't have to call and don't have to wait for and who I have no obligation to pay or have sex with. It is just a relaxing way to add prepagos to your line up.

I almost never take a Mansion chick on the spot because I have facebook chicks coming to see me day and night. The only way I take a Mansion chick on the same night I meet her is if I have chica cancel on me at the last minute or I see a Mansion chick that is so hot she blows my date away and then I cancel on her. Jajaja.

But that doesn't happen often.

The thing is most Mansion chicks are 6 or 7's with an occasional 8. But they are nice BBBJ and DFK no extra charge and the highest percentage of GFE of any venue in Medellin.

The chicks will go out partying with you if you like the club scene in Medellin. A lot of guys that stay at the Mansion take the time to make friends with the girls and take them out to dinner and a movie or short day trips around Medellin.

But if you are strictly looking for sex and not interested in socializing with women then there are better values than the Mansion.

[Jooks]

Thanks to all who chimed in with advice about Medellin neighborhoods and Medellin in general. And Cali The advice has been invaluable and led me to start researching the available tools online. One of the most helpful tools I found about Medellin neighborhoods is: https://medellinliving.com/best-medellin-neighborhoods/.

[JjBee62]

I appreciate the responses from those of you who responded with opinions on this. I may try it out

@ Mr En - No worries man, you just seemed annoyed. You just didn't understand what I was asking, it's cool. Thanks for your response.I did the same thing last year, while I was living in Poblado. Booked 2 nights at M2 in order to check it out. I was there Friday and Saturday nights, although I didn't stay in the room Saturday night, only returning Sunday to get my stuff and check out. Here's my impression.

The room I had was 212, which had no bathroom. I had to use the bathroom at the pool, which was closed for renovations. The room was cheaper than the other rooms, but more expensive than Hotel Porton Medellin, where I had stayed a few weeks earlier. The Mansion room, if it had a bathroom would have been a 2 star room, while Hotel Porton Medellin was 4 stars. The furniture looked like it spent 20 years in a frat house, before being moved to M2. At least the room was clean and quiet. I understand that they have remodeled that room since then. It may be better now.

La Cueva wasn't what I expected. It's a man cave attached to a garage. Literally. Except someone ran out of money building their man cave and furnished it with Goodwill rejects. If it was at a friend's house, it would be cool. At a place with Mansion prices, it's rather sad.

The girls weren't anything exceptional, in my opinion. I'm not extremely picky, so I took 2 different girls to my room. Neither was spectacular or especially memorable. The only jaw dropping beauty I saw there was a Facebook girl someone else had called in.

The like minded guys were there, but none of them impressed me. As others have said, it's a frat house atmosphere. The guys were mostly loud, boastful and crude. Personally, I couldn't see myself going anywhere with that group. If I'd spent more time there, I probably could have met a few guys who weren't as abrasive. Maybe hanging out around the M1 pool would be a better scene.

Last thing to mention is the hill. It's 3 blocks up a steep hill to get from M1 to M2. If you're in shape and used to the altitude, it's a rough 3 blocks. Otherwise it's a heart attack waiting to happen. Because of a 1 way street, it's a 10 block taxi ride, which can take 15 minutes during rush hour.

The value of the place is you don't have to do any work. You call or email them, tell them where you learned about them, I gave them my username on ISG, pay for the room and that's it. No time spent looking at maps or establishing contacts, no time wasted learning a few words of Spanish and no questions about pharmacies and little blue pills. Any questions you have, someone at M1 will have an answer.

If you're willing to put in a bit if effort and you're not looking for some frat buddies, there's no reason to stay at M2. Find 4 or 5 Facebook girls, explore their friend lists, find a dozen more girls on Facebook. Keep adding friends and soon you'll have 100 girls who top anything you will find at the Mansion. Practice with Duolingo and search for the things that interest you each day and when you hit the ground you'll be off and running.

However, for some people, the Mansion is the perfect place. It's what some guys want or need. They go there, have a great time and repeat. It lets them sample a little bit of Colombia without really venturing into Colombia. The question you need to ask yourself is whether it's right for you.

[Butch145]

I tried to find on facebook connections and had zero results. Any suggestions or links that you could share?

Greatly appreciate.

[Wolf662]

I tried to find on facebook connections and had zero results. Any suggestions or links that you could share?

Greatly appreciate.Start with these 2 then look thru their friends list:

La Vanee Restrepo.

https://www.facebook.com/eliana.restrepo.940

Limbekey Queen.

https://www.facebook.com/LIMBEKEYQUEENSTRUNK

[Sangnyc21]

Start with these 2 then look thru their friends list:

La Vanee Restrepo.

https://www.facebook.com/eliana.restrepo.940

Limbekey Queen.

https://www.facebook.com/LIMBEKEYQUEENSTRUNKI heard that la Vanee is somewhat of a pimpette. She'll hook you up with whatever your looking for as far as type of girl. Anyone have info?

[Smoothy]

RestrepoIt seems like half the population of Medellin has the last name Restrepo. A facebook search on just that last name would probably find plenty of results.

[Queens35]

La Vanee Restrepo.

https://www.facebook.com/eliana.restrepo.940Ask to join her WhatsApp list. She'll send you dozens and dozens of barrio girls.

One friendly suggestion: Check the ID well because some look (and probably are) minors. She doesn't care if you get busted, she won't be doing time.

[Wild Walleye]

I am thinking about trying MDE.

I've done 30+ trips to Buenos Aires (I have many more posts on the Argentina sister site to ISG), but haven't mongered in too many other LatAm hot spots (outside of the US and Argentina, most of my mongering has been in London and Montreal). Sadly, my Spanish is still terrible. I was looking at Costa Rica and MDE and I think that MDE fits the bill better, for what I like.

I'd probably do about 10 days and I'd make sure to visit the Mansion (s) and other must-see locales. However, if I session 1 to 3 times per day, that leaves me with at least another 10 hours per day to fill up. I like to eat, drink, see sights, museums, sit by the pool, enjoy the view, etc.

I'd be interested in the following:

1) Hotel recommendations: a nice hotel in a good neighborhood that I can walk around in, hit cafes, good restaurants, find chicas and enjoy without feeling like I need to have my guard up, constantly. As a rule, I do almost always have my guard up, but I'd like to be able to relax a little, too. Being my first trip to a new city, I'm going to err on the side of caution.

2) "Guide" recommendations: A couple trustworthy (preferably attractive) bi-lingual chicas who are fun to hangout with, take to dinner and see the sights. I honestly don't care it they provide adult services, I am certain that I can figure that out (my lack of Spanish has never held me back). I am talking about filling up the time, between sessions, with quality interaction with nice women.

3) Restaurant / bar recommendations: good places to eat and drink.

4) Chicas?: I'll keep RTFF.

Thanks guys.

[El Mechanico]

It seems like half the population of Medellin has the last name Restrepo. A facebook search on just that last name would probably find plenty of results.https://www.facebook.com/manuela.restrepo.7798

Avoid this Restrepo. Worst session I've had in the MDE!!

El Mechanico.

[Wolf662]

It seems like half the population of Medellin has the last name Restrepo. A facebook search on just that last name would probably find plenty of results.And the other half is called Montoya it seems.

[JustTK]

Hi folks. I am familiar w most of the casas in centro.

I just want to ask if anyone knows of any casas in the south. Envigado, Itagui, Sabaneta?

Thanks!

[Nclpimp]

Super cool and if you play your cards right you can even get some of that.

She does have a good list and will send pics. Tell her what you looking for.


Ask to join her WhatsApp list. She'll send you dozens and dozens of barrio girls.

One friendly suggestion: Check the ID well because some look (and probably are) minors. She doesn't care if you get busted, she won't be doing time.

[Nclpimp]

Me and a group of friends are going in a few months. 4 or 5 dudes in our 30's and early 40's. I know medellin well but could always use good advice. We are all hispanic. Looking for a nice apt with 4 or 5 rooms and a terrace and jacuzzi but NOT in poblado. Too many gringos. Been looking in airbnb and I stayed at barrys before but now I need something bigger and not in lleras. Also anyone have hookups with party girls that have hot friends pm me.

Also what strip clubs would you recommend?. We are comfortable walking around centro and know the casa scene. We want to hit fase dos but if there is hot ass somewhere else not looking to go to fase 2 tourist trap and rip off.

[JjBee62]

I am thinking about trying MDE.

I've done 30+ trips to Buenos Aires (I have many more posts on the Argentina sister site to ISG), but haven't mongered in too many other LatAm hot spots (outside of the US and Argentina, most of my mongering has been in London and Montreal). Sadly, my Spanish is still terrible. I was looking at Costa Rica and MDE and I think that MDE fits the bill better, for what I like.

I'd probably do about 10 days and I'd make sure to visit the Mansion (s) and other must-see locales. However, if I session 1 to 3 times per day, that leaves me with at least another 10 hours per day to fill up. I like to eat, drink, see sights, museums, sit by the pool, enjoy the view, etc.

I'd be interested in the following:

1) Hotel recommendations: a nice hotel in a good neighborhood that I can walk around in, hit cafes, good restaurants, find chicas and enjoy without feeling like I need to have my guard up, constantly. As a rule, I do almost always have my guard up, but I'd like to be able to relax a little, too. Being my first trip to a new city, I'm going to err on the side of caution.

2) "Guide" recommendations: A couple trustworthy (preferably attractive) bi-lingual chicas who are fun to hangout with, take to dinner and see the sights. I honestly don't care it they provide adult services, I am certain that I can figure that out (my lack of Spanish has never held me back). I am talking about filling up the time, between sessions, with quality interaction with nice women..The Mansion isn't a "must-see locale." There are those who disagree, but it's not worth going to look at unless you plan to stay there. You'll have to RTFF and decide whether it's what you're looking for.

1. If you stay at the Mansion, you won't need to worry about a hotel. Otherwise you need to verify, preferably twice, the hotel guest policy. There are 2 main areas you may want to search: Poblado near Parque Lleras or Laureles near Carrera 70. Both areas are full of restaurants, bars and night clubs, both have a noticeable police presence and both are reasonably safe.

2. For a bilingual chica who gives tours try.

https://www.facebook.com/hagale.pues.372

I never met her, but a few guys have recommended her. She can also help connect you with some chicas.

3. Restaurants and bars, depends on where you are staying. If you're around Parque Lleras, most of the bars are worth a visit. Same is true along Carrera 70. Restaurants in Poblado, El Botaniko, la Botanika, Thaico, Bao Bei are all options. The'Andre is your best choice for breakfast. 37 Park is another decent breakfast.

Laureles doesn't have the best options for non-Colombian food, but it has some of the better Colombian options. Las Hermanas Paisas is good, as is a place on Circular 2 that I don't know the name of. There are lots of good little spots just a few blocks off of Carrera 70.

If you're in El Centro checking out the casas, try Delicias Naturales. It's just a block away from New Life. Excellent food and cheap. Juan the owner speaks English.

[JustTK]

If you're in El Centro checking out the casas, try Delicias Naturales. It's just a block away from New Life. Excellent food and cheap. Juan the owner speaks English.I love this place too! The almond milk chocolate shake is excellent, and the staff are super -friendly.

Dann Carlton MDE is the only hotel in MDE that makes you feel like you are on holiday. The rest feel like business hotels.

[VickyRai]

I love this place too! The almond milk chocolate shake is excellent, and the staff are super -friendly.

Dann Carlton MDE is the only hotel in MDE that makes you feel like you are on holiday. The rest feel like business hotels.Is dann Carlton chica friendly? Also is there any chica fees?

[Eszpresszo]

If you're in El Centro checking out the casas, try Delicias Naturales. It's just a block away from New Life. Excellent food and cheap. Juan the owner speaks English.Uphill from New Life on the next block, the cafe on the corner of Calle 56 and Cr. 43 actually served me the best cup of coffee I've ever had. From a 60-year old guy who goes by "Eszpresszo", that's saying a lot.

[Mr Enternational]

A wingman sent me this. Looks like you guys better stay away from downtown after all!

https://colombiareports.com/medellin-violence-statistics/

[StripperMan]

A wingman sent me this. Looks like you guys better stay away from downtown after all!

https://colombiareports.com/medellin-violence-statistics/The article MrE forwarded does make me think about robberies in Centro. Are stick-ups or muggings happening? Are gringos getting held up with knives or guns? Are surprise choke holds from behind happening?

How is Centro right now compared to the Tijuana Zona Norte or Bogota's Santa Fe district? . in Centro, will vigilance & never letting your guard down prevent most attacks from ever happening?

[Bleble]

A wingman sent me this. Looks like you guys better stay away from downtown after all!

https://colombiareports.com/medellin-violence-statistics/Thanks for sharing. I actually cancelled an Airbnb booking and lost my service fee payment to Airbnb. That said, it is better to be alive than saving money, and not being able to spend it.

I'm looking for accommodation in El Poblado.

[Butch145]

La Vanee Restrepo.

https://www.facebook.com/eliana.restrepo.940

I connected with her and she sent me shit load of pics of girls. When I asked her about price she told me start at 200 thousand? Is that the going rate or am I able to negotiate price?

Thanks for the help.

[The Tall Man]

A wingman sent me this. Looks like you guys better stay away from downtown after all!

https://colombiareports.com/medellin-violence-statistics/Say it ain't so! Sad as I love to find my gems in this area at evening and late nights.

TTM.

[Sangnyc21]

Say it ain't so! Sad as I love to find my gems in this area at evening and late nights.

TTM.Is Parque Lleras considered downtown?

[JjWalker03]

Super cool and if you play your cards right you can even get some of that.

She does have a good list and will send pics. Tell her what you looking for.What does Vanessa gain from this? Are you suppose to tip her? Do the girls pay her? Nice Samaritan?

[SuperSaint]

A wingman sent me this.The map doesn't really give much useful information. Definitely worth taking note however.

[StripperMan]

Thanks for sharing. I actually cancelled an Airbnb booking and lost my service fee payment to Airbnb. That said, it is better to be alive than saving money, and not being able to spend it.

I'm looking for accommodation in El Poblado.Don't let your guard down too much in El Poblado or Lleras. Unless my research is wrong, these areas have a significant amount of pickpocketing, theft, and robberies. Several sources on a simple Google search even point to how these crimes in Poblado & Lleras have increased due to criminals specifically targeting affluent gringos in these areas.

I'm sure these areas are still much safer than Centro, but take care in these nicer areas as well.

Also, I'm still not convinced that Centro is significantly more dangerous this year. Could the statistics involve the rival-gangs at an increased war with each other? Maybe some of you Centro vets can chime in on what you're seeing on the Centro streets lately.

[StripperMan]

What does Vanessa gain from this? Are you suppose to tip her? Do the girls pay her? Nice Samaritan?Well if this chica Vanessa is starting the prices at 200 k, I'the assume there is already some commission to her included. That price of 200 k is not on the low-end of FB pricing.

[Eszpresszo]

Say it ain't so! Sad as I love to find my gems in this area at evening and late nights.

TTM.That's great news! Maybe it will scare the gringos and other lightweight foreigners away. Medellin is obviously becoming popular and that's a bad thing for mongers. After dark, I would be taking a cab through Centro and anyplace in MDE I was unfamiliar with, anyways. I did walk through Centro early in the evening once, but I quickly realized it was a mistake and walked double time to the San Antonio Metro Stop, just like a Tall Man like myself can do really well.

[Wolf662]

Don't let your guard down too much in El Poblado or Lleras. Unless my research is wrong, these areas have a significant amount of pickpocketing, theft, and robberies. Several sources on a simple Google search even point to how these crimes in Poblado & Lleras have increased due to criminals specifically targeting affluent gringos in these areas.

I'm sure these areas are still much safer than Centro, but take care in these nicer areas as well.

Also, I'm still not convinced that Centro is significantly more dangerous this year. Could the statistics involve the rival-gangs at an increased war with each other? Maybe some of you Centro vets can chime in on what you're seeing on the Centro streets lately.Indeed, the last year (2016) I found stats for foreigners killed in MED showed none killed in Centro with several killed in Poblado / Laureles:

"There were nine reported homicides of foreigners in Medelland in 2016. We'll look at these in detail to demonstrate that a majority of foreigner homicides in the city tend to be the result of resisting robberies or being involved in shady activities.

On June 4, Mexican national Jess Estrada de La Rosa, aged 48, was shot dead in Beland when he reportedly tried to prevent the theft of a motorcycle in the LOS Alpes barrio.

June 15, Israeli Shay Azran, aged 37, was killed with a firearm near the Exito in Laureles. He was allegedly involved in drug and sex tourism according to news reports.

June 16, Danish Tomas Willemoes, aged 41, was shot to the head in Provenza near Parque Lleras in El Poblado at about 9:30 pm. News reports claim this was a murder for hire so it may have involved shady activities.

September 29, the body of Australian Anthony Hasselback, aged 49, who was living in El Poblado was found along a road with two shots to the head in the municipality of Santo Domingo in Northeastern Antioquia. News reports claim he was involved in sex tourism.

November 19, Ryo Izaki, a 22-year-old Japanese man was shot dead in Estadio on a Saturday at about 4 pm after chasing a pair of suspects who had allegedly taken his mobile phone and tablet.

December 3, a Venezuelan member of the LBGT community was murdered who reportedly had sentimental problems.

In December, the body of a 23-year-old Dutch man was found in Laureles. News reports indicate that on December 10 this backpacker had a discussion with a woman and was shot.

December 14, American Jigar Patel from Illinois was attacked by a knife and killed in the barrio Miranda north of Medellin by two assailants.

On December 16, a body of a man from Dominica was found buried in a wooded area of ​8203;the Santa Elena district. He was reportedly kidnapped from a shopping mall in El Poblado in October. News reports indicate this homicide was related to the collection of money by drug trafficking networks."

https://medellinliving.com/2017-security-in-medellin/

[JjBee62]

A wingman sent me this. Looks like you guys better stay away from downtown after all!

https://colombiareports.com/medellin-violence-statistics/It's hilarious watching everyone run for cover. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

If the violent crime rate is up because of gang activity, this directly affects you if you A. Are a gang member, or decide to start your own gang in Medellin, be. If you are trying to become a major drug dealer in Medellin or see. If you decide to go looking for gang members to pick fights with. If you meet any of these conditions, it doesn't matter if you are in El Centro or El Poblado. If you don't meet any of those conditions your basic risk remains the same as it was last year, whether you are in El Centro or El Poblado.

[JjWalker03]

Well if this chica Vanessa is starting the prices at 200 k, I'the assume there is already some commission to her included. That price of 200 k is not on the low-end of FB pricing.Does seem a bit high. Thought the "average" for "good looking" prepagos was $150 k. Can you negotiate that? Or is that the set rate for all the Vanessa girls? Cheaper means more girls haha.

[JustTK]

Is dann Carlton chica friendly? Also is there any chica fees?I've never had problems taking girls in, but then again, I never had a huge stream of them in one day. .

I just booked for 2 people and said the second one hasnt arrived yet when I checked in.

[Jooks]

Does seem a bit high. Thought the "average" for "good looking" prepagos was $150 k. Can you negotiate that? Or is that the set rate for all the Vanessa girls? Cheaper means more girls haha.I messaged Vanessa and she told me 150 k, 350 k for the a full day. I can't figure out how this works. Seemingly, they've got half the girls in Colombia on their list. Speaking of which, are the girls just in Medellin or from all of Colombia? It seems like quite a valuable resource, but one I would probably just use when in a pinch.

[ILuvThePussy]

Does seem a bit high. Thought the "average" for "good looking" prepagos was $150 k. Can you negotiate that? Or is that the set rate for all the Vanessa girls? Cheaper means more girls haha.I just asked about one of the better looking ones and she quoted me 250 k for one hour. She's pretty good looking, but 250 k is still pretty high. She said I would have to send her my address and then she would send the girl through uber, so I guess she is some sort of middle man pimp. She sends lots of pictures of girls in a group chat with a bunch of other people in it. If you ate interested in a girl you send the picture of her to her privately. I don't know if she is dependable or might bait and switch as I have not used her.

[Wild Walleye]

The Mansion isn't a "must-see locale." There are those who disagree, but it's not worth going to look at unless you plan to stay there. You'll have to RTFF and decide whether it's what you're looking for.

1. If you stay at the Mansion, you won't need to worry about a hotel. Otherwise you need to verify, preferably twice, the hotel guest policy. There are 2 main areas you may want to search: Poblado near Parque Lleras or Laureles near Carrera 70. Both areas are full of restaurants, bars and night clubs, both have a noticeable police presence and both are reasonably safe.

2. For a bilingual chica who gives tours try..Thanks. Just the kind of info I was seeking.

I get the feeling that the mongering scene in MDE, today, is like the scene in Buenos Aires 10+ years, ago.

I'd do a night or two at the mansion for the experience. I am definitely down with eating local food. It sounds like I should make my base of operations in Parque Lleras and plan my excursions from there.

I am quite comfortable in adverse environments and despite my woeful language skills have not got myself into a situation from which I could not extricate myself. That said, there was one time in London that I was pleased to be in such good shape and that I could outrun the security team from the clip-joint in Soho.

I'm looking forward to bringing my plans together and would happily buy you a beer or two.

[JjWalker03]

I messaged Vanessa and she told me 150 k, 350 k for the a full day. I can't figure out how this works. Seemingly, they've got half the girls in Colombia on their list. Speaking of which, are the girls just in Medellin or from all of Colombia? It seems like quite a valuable resource, but one I would probably just use when in a pinch.For any girl? I was quoted 200 K for the ones I asked for.

[Nclpimp]

At the very least 50 k upcharge. But she guarantees the girls won't drug steal or kill you. Well that is what she days.


The map doesn't really give much useful information. Definitely worth taking note however.

[Nclpimp]

50 k at least. But she guarantees you won't get drugged robbed or killed. Or at least that is what she says.


What does Vanessa gain from this? Are you suppose to tip her? Do the girls pay her? Nice Samaritan?

[Turgid]

It's hilarious watching everyone run for cover. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

If the violent crime rate is up because of gang activity, this directly affects you if you A. Are a gang member, or decide to start your own gang in Medellin, be. If you are trying to become a major drug dealer in Medellin or see. If you decide to go looking for gang members to pick fights with. If you meet any of these conditions, it doesn't matter if you are in El Centro or El Poblado. If you don't meet any of those conditions your basic risk remains the same as it was last year, whether you are in El Centro or El Poblado.True, but one caveat to your post - "Armed robbery: Locals reported more than 8,000 robberies in 2017, more than three times as many as five years before. " This directly affects tourists.

[NMarsh36]

La Vanee Restrepo.

https://www.facebook.com/eliana.restrepo.940

I connected with her and she sent me shit load of pics of girls. When I asked her about price she told me start at 200 thousand? Is that the going rate or am I able to negotiate price?

Thanks for the help.Before I begin I will say that I have never met Vanessa, I do not gain anything by providing this information but I believe it will be helpful to others.

I was in Medellin in April, May and I will be back in September. I worked with Vanessa and have seen at least 25 chicks (got the pics to verify). Yes, they are on the higher end so the quoted rates are accurate (200 -350). There was one occasion where I wanted a lot extra to include anal and I had to pay 400. You may try and negotiate but I was not successful with that. One of the girls told me that 50 goes to Vanessa and the rate always included the taxi which is another 50.

There was one girl I wanted badly (I also have her picture) but Vanessa told me she was removed because there was a complaint about her and she did not want to damage her own reputation. I have never had an issue working with Vanessa. I stay in my room and place my order and she shows up on time and every one of the chicks were pleasant and accommodating but there is a premium for.

One other note is that all the pics are recent. Vanessa also told me that if the girl is not accurately represented in her photo, send her away and she will send you someone else. Again, I have never been disappointed.

Hope that helps!

[JjWalker03]

From what Vanessa told me, you can negotiate. Seems like it's up to the girl. Doesn't make sense to Pat a "barrio" girl the same as the top girls that Vanessa has.

[MedellinGringo]

La Vanee Restrepo.

https://www.facebook.com/eliana.restrepo.940

I connected with her and she sent me shit load of pics of girls. When I asked her about price she told me start at 200 thousand? Is that the going rate or am I able to negotiate price?

Thanks for the help.

How did she send you the pics. Through facebook or whatsapp?

This chick on her friends list is just gorgeous.

https://www.facebook.com/ana.rico.779642?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab

[SlapShot10]

How did she send you the pics. Through facebook or whatsapp?

This chick on her friends list is just gorgeous.

https://www.facebook.com/ana.rico.779642?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tabI connected with Vanessa, via FB then WhatsApp. Within 24 HR she has provided several options in multiple cities, as well as added me to a WhatsApp group blast, with over 200 numbers. I can see the phone numbers of the recipients, which is a little weird, to me. I removed myself, but she certainly appears to be dialed-in. I will definitely keep her in mind, on a rainy day. Takes a little bit of the fun out of it, for me, but I would think it's a great resource for many. Of the, let's say. 20 girls she has sent photos of, I had a favorite / yes in each group. Options, it's all about options!

[NMarsh36]

From what Vanessa told me, you can negotiate. Seems like it's up to the girl. Doesn't make sense to Pat a "barrio" girl the same as the top girls that Vanessa has.When I make a request with Vanessa, I tell her the girl and the time required with her. I also clarify the amount (so that there are no issues as it pertains to time, service and compensation. It does not make sense that the girl would take less money than what was previously agreed to with Vanessa.

Some of the girls were so amazing that I took their numbers and had them come back and see me without having to go via Vanessa. This is how I am able to negotiate but certainly not when she initially arrives to the Hotel. If you were able to do that, congratulations, I do not have your level of skills.

[Mr Enternational]

From what Vanessa told me, you can negotiate. Seems like it's up to the girl. Doesn't make sense to Pat a "barrio" girl the sawhatme as the top girls that Vanessa has.What the fuck? All of them are barrio girls. You think a chick that came from something is out there selling pussy for 200 k?

[Queens35]

Super cool and if you play your cards right you can even get some of that.I agree. She gave me a better than average session. She told me that she rarely sessions, only when she likes the guy. Yes, I know. She's very short though, but has a big ass and big fake tits. But she's not GFE.

[Queens35]

What does Vanessa gain from this? Are you suppose to tip her? Do the girls pay her? Nice Samaritan?She "manages" the girls so I'm sure she takes her cut. I would not pay a peso over 150.

[Queens35]

Does seem a bit high. Thought the "average" for "good looking" prepagos was $150 k. Can you negotiate that? Or is that the set rate for all the Vanessa girls? Cheaper means more girls haha.Most of her chicas look like they do their biz in the barrios, I don't think they see too many gringos. I'm sure she doesn't give you their numbers but arranges scheduling and payment for them. I doubt these chicas get more than 100 k (probably 50) and she keeps the rest. I have never used the services of one of her chicas. I did session with Vane herself one time. Like I said, she wasn't bad but she's not a GFE. But I bet that after 2-3 sessions I can flip her to become a GFE. She had a nice curvy body and big fake tits which I like. And she's very bubbly.

[JjBee62]

Most of her chicas look like they do their biz in the barrios, I don't think they see too many gringos. I'm sure she doesn't give you their numbers but arranges scheduling and payment for them. I doubt these chicas get more than 100 k (probably 50) and she keeps the rest. I have never used the services of one of her chicas. I did session with Vane herself one time. Like I said, she wasn't bad but she's not a GFE. But I bet that after 2-3 sessions I can flip her to become a GFE. She had a nice curvy body and big fake tits which I like. And she's very bubbly.Although I never used Vane's services, I used the services of another "manager". After some back and forth discussion on service and availability a price was agreed on and I was put in direct contact with the girl, through WhatsApp. During the discussion the manager brought up the extra 50 k is just for the first time. After that I would be dealing strictly with the girl.

Since the girls are getting paid directly, they know how much money is coming in. If Vane is taking 50-75% then she's not going to have any girls working for her. They may be lacking education, but they aren't stupid.

[JustTK]

So no one here knows of any in the south of MDE?


Hi folks. I am familiar w most of the casas in centro.

I just want to ask if anyone knows of any casas in the south. Envigado, Itagui, Sabaneta?

Thanks!

[StripperMan]

Well, Facebook truly is a goldmine. I am getting a high response-rate to my initial inquiries, and building a list rather easily. Because I have already found what I need in the 150-200 k price range, I am not including any chicas who charge more than that. But there is one chica who is SMOKING HOT, and she is certainly testing my boundaries. I may have to dish out the extra cash. She wants 300 k for everything covered, but will do BBBJ for extra. This is her profile:

Camila Woolf.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100027318762220

What do you guys think? Should I dish out the extra cash?

Honestly, I am very disciplined and won't pay more than 200 k. So I'm going to pass on this one, and pass her on to you guys who are fine with paying a little more.

[JjBee62]

So no one here knows of any in the south of MDE?No. The farthest south O know of is Mayorista and the street girls there. You might find something on mileroticos.

[Sho423]

Well, Facebook truly is a goldmine. I am getting a high response-rate to my initial inquiries, and building a list rather easily. Because I have already found what I need in the 150-200 k price range, I am not including any chicas who charge more than that. But there is one chica who is SMOKING HOT, and she is certainly testing my boundaries. I may have to dish out the extra cash. She wants 300 k for everything covered, but will do BBBJ for extra. This is her profile:

Camila Woolf.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100027318762220

What do you guys think? Should I dish out the extra cash?

Honestly, I am very disciplined and won't pay more than 200 k. So I'm going to pass on this one, and pass her on to you guys who are fine with paying a little more.To me it looks like a fake account, she doesn't have normal pictures of her face.

[Big Boss Man]

To me it looks like a fake account, she doesn't have normal pictures of her face.The pictures are fake. I got about 50 hits using tineye.

[Mr Enternational]

Camila Woolf.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100027318762220

What do you guys think? Should I dish out the extra cash?Come on man. Are y'all starting that shit again? From that one facebook picture it looks like it is probably a dude, with that stance (of a dude trying to pose as a woman), those square ass shoulders, and all those muscles in the forearm. Wait til you get there and find all the pussy that you can stand live and in person.

[MedellinGringo]

Well, Facebook truly is a goldmine. I am getting a high response-rate to my initial inquiries, and building a list rather easily. Because I have already found what I need in the 150-200 k price range, I am not including any chicas who charge more than that. But there is one chica who is SMOKING HOT, and she is certainly testing my boundaries. I may have to dish out the extra cash. She wants 300 k for everything covered, but will do BBBJ for extra. This is her profile:

Camila Woolf.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100027318762220

What do you guys think? Should I dish out the extra cash?

Honestly, I am very disciplined and won't pay more than 200 k. So I'm going to pass on this one, and pass her on to you guys who are fine with paying a little more.

Looks like a fake profile. But that doesn't necessarily mean the chick is necessarily ugly.

If she is as good as the pics, 300 mill isn't a bad price.

Take pics of what shows up and give a report.

You'd think she would have to be pretty hot to advertise with pics like that.

Stefany Santa uses picks of hot chicks on her profile that aren't her.

But nobody complains because she is just as good looking in person as the fake pics.

[Wild Walleye]

Question for you guys. I have never done facebook. I honestly have no idea how to use it. Would someone please instruct me on how I would use it to find chicas in a given locale? I set up a profile (not using my real data). Now what do I do? Similarly, I have whatsapp to contact providers, but how would I use it to find chicas?

I am not a technology moron, I just have never used social media (I like my privacy) and I could always get good results with backpage, craigslist, usasexguide, internationalsexguide, local foros, etc. Now with the new law, I am finding that I need to learn some new skills and up my game a little.

I'm thinking about paying for a month of seekingarrangements to see if it is any better. There are some very hot MILFs from Medellin on SA and a bunch who claim to be bilingual (not absolutely necessary, but I wouldn't be opposed to sharing a language with my provider).

I did contact Vanne and she sent me about 20 chicas.

When I make it to MDE, I will buy a few rounds.

Thanks,

WW.

[JustTK]

The easiest way is to set up accounts on the mobile dating apps, like Tinder and about half a dozen others. The working girls are often in bikinis or less and are the ones contacting you, rather than you searching for them. .

I'm not sure how to use Facebook in general to find working girls, but in MDE the method is quite well established. Just make friends with a couple of mongers then friend all the girls in MDE on their friend lists!. Then it snowballs.


Question for you guys. I have never done facebook. I honestly have no idea how to use it. Would someone please instruct me on how I would use it to find chicas in a given locale? I set up a profile (not using my real data). Now what do I do? Similarly, I have whatsapp to contact providers, but how would I use it to find chicas?

[StripperMan]

Looks like a fake profile. But that doesn't necessarily mean the chick is necessarily ugly.

If she is as good as the pics, 300 mill isn't a bad price.

Take pics of what shows up and give a report.

You'd think she would have to be pretty hot to advertise with pics like that.

Stefany Santa uses picks of hot chicks on her profile that aren't her.

But nobody complains because she is just as good looking in person as the fake pics.It's a long shot that I ever deal with this Camila Woolf chica. I've got too many on my list already, and at my price range of 150-200 k.

Also, I've noticed a trend with some FB girls. They set up "anonymous accounts" with obviously fake names, and provide only body pics, no facial shots whatsoever. Then after I talk with them a little, they send full pics. On my list I have a small group of about 6-7 girls who fit this profile.

Not counting these anonymous chicas, I have an A, be, see, & the lists that totals just over 50 chicas. I'the like to think I'm relatively safe of the bait & switch scam by the fact that these chicas on my list each have dozens & dozens of photos going back years to very recently. But when dealing with escort style service, the cliche always applies, "You never know what you're going to get until you open the door".

I am strongly considering doing more than just calling them, but requiring a video call before asking them to come over. What measures if any are your guys taking with FB girls to prevent misrepresentation?

[Prowler5599]

Question for you guys. I have never done facebook. I honestly have no idea how to use it. Would someone please instruct me on how I would use it to find chicas in a given locale? I set up a profile (not using my real data). Now what do I do? Similarly, I have whatsapp to contact providers, but how would I use it to find chicas?

I am not a technology moron, I just have never used social media (I like my privacy) and I could always get good results with backpage, craigslist, usasexguide, internationalsexguide, local foros, etc. Now with the new law, I am finding that I need to learn some new skills and up my game a little.

I'm thinking about paying for a month of seekingarrangements to see if it is any better. There are some very hot MILFs from Medellin on SA and a bunch who claim to be bilingual (not absolutely necessary, but I wouldn't be opposed to sharing a language with my provider).I've been in contact with Vanne as well recently. She quoted me 250 k per hour but I insisted on anal and besos negros be included. At first she agreed and sent me pics of about 7 or 8 girls in her stable that were supposedly good to go. Now as I 'm trying to nail down an exact date and time she is back peddling on her girls providing the services I am requesting. There is no way I'm paying 250 k in Medellin for standard service.

[IamLookin]

Come on man. Are y'all starting that shit again? From that one facebook picture it looks like it is probably a dude, with that stance (of a dude trying to pose as a woman), those square ass shoulders, and all those muscles in the forearm. Wait til you get there and find all the pussy that you can stand live and in person.You should ask her for real pics for starters.

[JjBee62]

Well, Facebook truly is a goldmine. I am getting a high response-rate to my initial inquiries, and building a list rather easily. Because I have already found what I need in the 150-200 k price range, I am not including any chicas who charge more than that. But there is one chica who is SMOKING HOT, and she is certainly testing my boundaries. I may have to dish out the extra cash. She wants 300 k for everything covered, but will do BBBJ for extra. This is her profile:

Camila Woolf.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100027318762220

What do you guys think? Should I dish out the extra cash?

Honestly, I am very disciplined and won't pay more than 200 k. So I'm going to pass on this one, and pass her on to you guys who are fine with paying a little more.A real Facebook profile is pretty easy to spot. A fake one is just as easy to spot.

A real profile has pictures, usually lots of pictures. If the girl has kids or pets there will be pics of them. There will be pics of family and friends. There will be activity over a period of time.

There are a bunch of recent fake Facebook profiles that all follow the same pattern. The feed only has 3 pictures, all posted the same day. All of the pictures will show up with lots of matches if you use tineye or Google image search. There's never anything else on the feed.

Chances are, 1 person or a group of people is setting up these fake profiles. It's highly unlikely they're setting up the profiles to help hot Paisas meet gringos.

Facebook is a great source, but you need to pay attention to what you are doing.

[Bart1]

Thanks to poster who about 2 weeks ago posted ATM rates, previous years I always used bancolombia, but now 14 ooo charge and davienda free as he posted. Davienda max 400 k but not problem doing 2 withdrawls at the same time, having flown in from santiago DR and arriving mde at 10;30 and being not to smart late in the day, left my debit card in the airport ATM. Having been living in the DR for past 8 months I was used to the atms there make you take out your card before pesos dispensed, here you get pesos first and then card is released, not the better plan, very few gringos in el centro, if you don't count the euros on the daytime walking tours, in 10 days have not seen another gringo in the strip bars across from parque botero, since 2010 four strip bars have closed in el centro, but still have 7 to check out, conejitas still my fav, more flacas less whales, and the rooms there blow the 2 upscale clubs on maracaibo out of the water, there hit your head when ducking under the counter and then go past the mens pisser, and the near double the price, give me a break.

[StripperMan]

very few gringos in el centro, if you don't count the euros on the daytime walking tours, in 10 days have not seen another gringo in the strip bars across from parque botero, since 2010 four strip bars have closed in el centro, but still have 7 to check out, conejitas still my fav, more flacas less whales, and the rooms there blow the 2 upscale clubs on maracaibo out of the water, there hit your head when ducking under the counter and then go past the mens pisser, and the near double the price, give me a break.So you've been hitting the Centro bars for the last 10 days. I assume you have doing this at night? Can you report on the danger levels in Centro please? There has been a lot of discussion about muggings in Centro on this forum.

[Mr Enternational]

A real Facebook profile is pretty easy to spot. A fake one is just as easy to spot.

A real profile has pictures, usually lots of pictures. If the girl has kids or pets there will be pics of them. There will be pics of family and friends. There will be activity over a period of time.A lot of mongers report making a facebook page just for mongering, which I assume would not include pictures of their pets and family and friends. Why wouldn't a hooker do the same?

[JustTK]

They most often do.


A lot of mongers report making a facebook page just for mongering, which I assume would not include pictures of their pets and family and friends. Why wouldn't a hooker do the same?

[JustTK]

Energy in Laureles has a menu. Its on the pricy side for spas / casas, but if you are concerned about girls in your room / apto, or worried that they won't perform specific roles, it sounds like a decent option. It also has quite long opening hours. And it would probably work out cheaper than 250 k.

I am not sure how many other places have menu options like that in MDE?


I've been in contact with Vanne as well recently. She quoted me 250 k per hour but I insisted on anal and besos negros be included. At first she agreed and sent me pics of about 7 or 8 girls in her stable that were supposedly good to go. Now as I 'm trying to nail down an exact date and time she is back peddling on her girls providing the services I am requesting. There is no way I'm paying 250 k in Medellin for standard service.

[Jbj64]

I have used SA twice, paid the $70-80 for the month had about 10-12 women lined up in my whatsapp. I like it, girls might be more expensive but you can ask via whatsapp their price. I was looking for more non pro and found some and had a couple pro that I realized when they were at my place. The pro will have other contacts that they can then send to you. It really is a network in MDE of chicas.


Question for you guys. I have never done facebook. I honestly have no idea how to use it. Would someone please instruct me on how I would use it to find chicas in a given locale? I set up a profile (not using my real data). Now what do I do? Similarly, I have whatsapp to contact providers, but how would I use it to find chicas?

I am not a technology moron, I just have never used social media (I like my privacy) and I could always get good results with backpage, craigslist, usasexguide, internationalsexguide, local foros, etc. Now with the new law, I am finding that I need to learn some new skills and up my game a little.

I'm thinking about paying for a month of seekingarrangements to see if it is any better. There are some very hot MILFs from Medellin on SA and a bunch who claim to be bilingual (not absolutely necessary, but I wouldn't be opposed to sharing a language with my provider).

I did contact Vanne and she sent me about 20 chicas.

When I make it to MDE, I will buy a few rounds.

Thanks,

WW.

[Knowledge]

It's been covered to death here. Stay away from isolated areas, especially alone or on foot. That will keep you out of trouble day and night. Use taxis and uber if you are unsure of addresses or foot routes. Keep valuables (jewelry, cash, mobile phone) out of sight and be aware of your surroundings. You will be OK.


So you've been hitting the Centro bars for the last 10 days. I assume you have doing this at night? Can you report on the danger levels in Centro please? There has been a lot of discussion about muggings in Centro on this forum.

[JjWalker03]

When I make a request with Vanessa, I tell her the girl and the time required with her. I also clarify the amount (so that there are no issues as it pertains to time, service and compensation. It does not make sense that the girl would take less money than what was previously agreed to with Vanessa.

Some of the girls were so amazing that I took their numbers and had them come back and see me without having to go via Vanessa. This is how I am able to negotiate but certainly not when she initially arrives to the Hotel. If you were able to do that, congratulations, I do not have your level of skills.You have to negotiate through Vanessa. Don't think she's giving you the lowest price possible of the bat. Pretty sure these girls will take less than 150 k (200 k. Vanessa's cut). They are making multiples of what the minimum wage is in an hour. Mind you, most barrio people don't make el minimo.

[JjWalker03]

What the fuck? All of them are barrio girls. You think a chick that came from something is out there selling pussy for 200 k?Dude, girls from normal families have been know to work in this. You might think that 200 K is small but that's $70. For an hour. Girls going to college have been known to do this. Where else can a girl make 50 times the minimum wage. That's like a girl making $550 here in the US. Again, for an hour.

[StripperMan]

It's been covered to death here. Stay away from isolated areas, especially alone or on foot. That will keep you out of trouble day and night. Use taxis and uber if you are unsure of addresses or foot routes. Keep valuables (jewelry, cash, mobile phone) out of sight and be aware of your surroundings. You will be OK.What's been covered here this week is the purported increase in robberies & other crimes in Centro both this year, and the last several years. What I was asking Bart1 for is a boots-on-the-ground report of what he's seeing & sensing in Centro at night, not bullet points from a safety handbook like be vigilant, keep your head on a swivel, etc.

I'm sure The Tall Man & his street savvy buddy weren't showing bling or unaware of their surroundings when they were surrounded by 6 thugs with knives a couple months ago. This happened near Conejitas shortly after midnight.

If anyone can contribute recent experiences, good or bad, about Centro & its bars at night that would be great.

[Wild Walleye]

I have used SA twice, paid the $70-80 for the month had about 10-12 women lined up in my whatsapp. I like it, girls might be more expensive but you can ask via whatsapp their price. I was looking for more non pro and found some and had a couple pro that I realized when they were at my place. The pro will have other contacts that they can then send to you. It really is a network in MDE of chicas.Great info. Thanks. I am thinking of paying for SA, when I am ready to really plan for my visit.

[Wild Walleye]

It's been covered to death here. Stay away from isolated areas, especially alone or on foot. That will keep you out of trouble day and night. Use taxis and uber if you are unsure of addresses or foot routes. Keep valuables (jewelry, cash, mobile phone) out of sight and be aware of your surroundings. You will be OK.This is great advice and applies to any place you might be. Situational awareness is the key.

Leave the nice watches at home. You don't need to impress chicas, they want your cash, not your hand in marriage. Don't flash cash and don't leave your cell sitting on the table or on the passenger seat (or between your legs) in the car (yup, I know guys who have had them stolen from between their legs, while driving). I carry a photocopy of my passport in my pocket, the original is in the hotel safe, along with a credit card and some cash (enough to get me out of the country if everything goes to shit).

I have a 'naughty' phone (for dating) and my regular phone. If I am certain that everyone back at home is OK for a few hours, I leave that phone in the safe, too.

If I have a chica to my room, I have all the cash I need for her stashed somewhere and everything of value (including my laptop and everything that can identify me, like luggage tags) in the safe. I take the dry cleaner tags (with my name and home phone number) off my shirts.

Know where you are going. Memorize the directions. Don't pull out a map on the street. Use GPS, if you have to. Don't look like a clueless tourist on the street.

My Spanish sucks. So, when I am out in the open, I don't speak.

In cities with lots of caucasians (Buenos Aires, Medellin, etc.) as long as no one hears my Spanish, they have no idea I am not a local.

I don't wear any clothing that might identify me as a tourist (no branded stuff unique to the USA). I don't over dress for business stuff (I wear off the rack as opposed to my custom suits). They key is to blend in.

I might sound paranoid, but it allows me to really relax and enjoy myself.

[Wild Walleye]

Dude, girls from normal families have been know to work in this. You might think that 200 K is small but that's $70. For an hour. Girls going to college have been known to do this. Where else can a girl make 50 times the minimum wage. That's like a girl making $550 here in the US. Again, for an hour.One of the chicas with the hottest bods, in Buenos Aires (a few years back), was a dentist by day and club dancer (and chica) by night. It takes all kinds.

[Wolf662]

What's been covered here this week is the purported increase in robberies & other crimes in Centro both this year, and the last several years. What I was asking Bart1 for is a boots-on-the-ground report of what he's seeing & sensing in Centro at night, not bullet points from a safety handbook like be vigilant, keep your head on a swivel, etc.

I'm sure The Tall Man & his street savvy buddy weren't showing bling or unaware of their surroundings when they were surrounded by 6 thugs with knives a couple months ago. This happened near Conejitas shortly after midnight.

If anyone can contribute recent experiences, good or bad, about Centro & its bars at night that would be great.I have spent about a month now in Centro in the last year, most recently in March, have been from my hotel to the 3 main strip clubs at late as 2 am on foot 7 days a week and everywhere else in daylight. I'd say after dark the blocks around Conejitas are much sketchier then the block around Maricabo and Barra Ejectiva, even though they are only a few blocks apart, much scarier vibe towards Conejitas. I only hit the redlight blocks in daylight also. The bars themselves have been safe enough once you are inside.

Haven't had any problems yet, one drunk old dude did wave a small knife at me & Pollo Negro while we were walking from Conejitas to BarraEjectiva after midnight. He was pretty drunk though and we just ignored him. 2 street chicks in Plaza Botero did try to pickpocket me but got nothing.

Compared to place I have been when I lived in Washington DC back in the late '70's though Centro seems like freaking Disneyland. Compared to my time in Kandahar it seems real safe too but that ain't saying much. LOL.

I'd say if you speak some Spanish and have lived in bad neighborhoods in the US and abroad and dress to blend in you will be most likely be OK, if you lived in a gated suburban community in the US and dress nice and look like a easy mark I'd stay and party elsewhere.

[IamLookin]

I know 2 of my Facebook girlfriends that have been robbed near el centro while in a cab. Both were robbed by motorcyclists. Personally, I don t venture in that area past the early evening. I make contacts and arrange for room service.


What's been covered here this week is the purported increase in robberies & other crimes in Centro both this year, and the last several years. What I was asking Bart1 for is a boots-on-the-ground report of what he's seeing & sensing in Centro at night, not bullet points from a safety handbook like be vigilant, keep your head on a swivel, etc.

I'm sure The Tall Man & his street savvy buddy weren't showing bling or unaware of their surroundings when they were surrounded by 6 thugs with knives a couple months ago. This happened near Conejitas shortly after midnight.

If anyone can contribute recent experiences, good or bad, about Centro & its bars at night that would be great..

[StripperMan]

I know 2 of my Facebook girlfriends that have been robbed near el centro while in a cab. Both were robbed by motorcyclists. Personally, I don t venture in that area past the early evening. I make contacts and arrange for room service..Wow, not one but 2 FB chicas. Were they snatch & grab jobs thru an open window in the cab? Or was the cab actually pulled over at gun-point?

*Also, I must ask, sorry, is there any possibility the girls are lying to garner sympathy & cash?

[NMarsh36]

You have to negotiate through Vanessa. Don't think she's giving you the lowest price possible of the bat. Pretty sure these girls will take less than 150 k (200 k. Vanessa's cut). They are making multiples of what the minimum wage is in an hour. Mind you, most barrio people don't make el minimo.JJ,

I will take your advise. I will be back in five weeks.

Thanks,

[Wild Walleye]

Just a word to the wise, if you are not single, do not connect with Vanne via your everyday whatsapp (I use it for business around the world). When you connect with Vanne, you will get put into a whatsapp group that includes the chicas and they will post wonderful pictures of themselves. Constantly. So, your phone will be making noise and if you have a curious significant other, you might have some explaining to do. I have a totally separate 'naughty' phone with an anonymous whatsapp account (and email, etc.).

[Combo]

Dude, girls from normal families have been know to work in this. You might think that 200 K is small but that's $70. For an hour. Girls going to college have been known to do this. Where else can a girl make 50 times the minimum wage. That's like a girl making $550 here in the US. Again, for an hour.Yup. 200 K is ALOT of money in Colombia. I don't think many Gringos realize how much money they are throwing around at times. 700 k / month is a typical wage / salary. There are college-educated professionals that don't make much more than 1 Million pesos / month. That's why you'll see even more middle-class Paisas dip into play for pay once in a while.


Wow, not one but 2 FB chicas. Were they snatch & grab jobs thru an open window in the cab? Or was the cab actually pulled over at gun-point?

*Also, I must ask, sorry, is there any possibility the girls are lying to garner sympathy & cash?These girls are ideal targets for thieves. They tend to carry a lot of cash.

[JjBee62]

Wow, not one but 2 FB chicas. Were they snatch & grab jobs thru an open window in the cab? Or was the cab actually pulled over at gun-point?

*Also, I must ask, sorry, is there any possibility the girls are lying to garner sympathy & cash?The girls are always getting their phones stolen. At least once a week one of my Facebook friends will be posting that her phone was stolen. Had one that was robbed twice in 2 weeks.

Here's what the sympathy ploy looks like (translated to English):

"mor I'm very sad. Last night my phone was stolen and I don't have any money to pay for a new one. I need my phone because my mom (kid, sister or dog) is very sick. Can you help me please?

Here's what you'll see from a typical girl whose phone was stolen:

"Last night my phone was stolen. Talk to me on messenger."

[JjBee62]

In cities with lots of caucasians (Buenos Aires, Medellin, etc.) as long as no one hears my Spanish, they have no idea I am not a local.

I don't wear any clothing that might identify me as a tourist (no branded stuff unique to the USA). I don't over dress for business stuff (I wear off the rack as opposed to my custom suits). They key is to blend in.
I can't speak for Buenos Aires, but in Medellin everyone knows you aren't a local. However, if you're not drawing lots of attention to yourself, very few people care. If you walk the same streets enough times, the locals might assume you live there, but they know you aren't a native.

The other stuff is good advice. It boils down to not making yourself an obvious target.

[IamLookin]

I can t disagree with you about that. But keep in mind that they say that because it happens far too often. One cab driver told me wont drive there in the late
Evening.


The girls are always getting their phones stolen. At least once a week one of my Facebook friends will be posting that her phone was stolen. Had one that was robbed twice in 2 weeks.

Here's what the sympathy ploy looks like (translated to English):

"mor I'm very sad. Last night my phone was stolen and I don't have any money to pay for a new one. I need my phone because my mom (kid, sister or dog) is very sick. Can you help me please?

Here's what you'll see from a typical girl whose phone was stolen:

"Last night my phone was stolen. Talk to me on messenger.".

[Wild Walleye]

I can't speak for Buenos Aires, but in Medellin everyone knows you aren't a local. However, if you're not drawing lots of attention to yourself, very few people care. If you walk the same streets enough times, the locals might assume you live there, but they know you aren't a native.

The other stuff is good advice. It boils down to not making yourself an obvious target.I have not been to MDE. I was assuming that with enough caucasians one might blend in. My error in assuming.

I am looking froward to making it to MDE. I keep getting more pictures from Vanne. (the chica in the black bikini on the rock has an insane bod). Has anyone connected with her?

[Butch145]

I started to do my research and I tried to reach out to woman on Facebook. Not much results I actually had more success on SA (seeking Arrangement). Got a number of 20 woman age from 18 to 33. Now working out on whatsapp who I plan on visiting and seeing. I was going to hit 3 age groups under 20, in there 20 and over 30. I still did not get the pricing down, but I have a feeling on a few I can get possibly free. .

I ask my usual questions.

No condom oral.

No condom sex.

No condom anal.

Once say condom for all I delete. Now interesting some have agreed for all no condom but now trying to get them tested for STD and cleared for the fun. Any suggestion in how that can work. On SA you will find more average girl who needs financial help and has a full time job or in school.

[Talon]

Just a word to the wise, if you are not single, do not connect with Vanne via your everyday whatsapp (I use it for business around the world). When you connect with Vanne, you will get put into a whatsapp group that includes the chicas and they will post wonderful pictures of themselves. Constantly. So, your phone will be making noise and if you have a curious significant other, you might have some explaining to do. I have a totally separate 'naughty' phone with an anonymous whatsapp account (and email, etc.).Or you can just turn off notifications for the group.

[Mr Enternational]

I have not been to MDE. I was assuming that with enough caucasians one might blend in. My error in assuming.LOL. White does not mean you are blending in. I am Black. I have been in Dominican Republic the past week and was in a hoarhouse full of Black people. It is one of my usual haunts. A newer chick came up and asked me in English, "Do you speak Spanish?" I laughed and said I have not spoken 1 word of English since I walked in that door, only Spanish. So why would you ask me that? So I wasn't blending in for shit. I am fucking that chick for free on her off time now though.


Or you can just turn off notifications for the group.Or leave the group.

[Sangnyc21]

I started to do my research and I tried to reach out to woman on Facebook. Not much results I actually had more success on SA (seeking Arrangement). Got a number of 20 woman age from 18 to 33. Now working out on whatsapp who I plan on visiting and seeing. I was going to hit 3 age groups under 20, in there 20 and over 30. I still did not get the pricing down, but I have a feeling on a few I can get possibly free. .

I ask my usual questions.

No condom oral.

No condom sex.

No condom anal..Wow I didn't know BBFS and bbanal was a thing. I always assumed GFE just meant BBBJ. To each their own but are there girls in Medellin that actually allow bb everything?

[TheCarlAnthony]

I normally read this forum weekly. I like to read 10 pages ir so at a time then shed my advice rather than responding to each one. I've been to Medellin enough to share my experience. Hopefully this helps from this weeks topics.

1. Safety:

You are not safe ever. Well. Kinda. That's the mind set you should have when traveling in this environment. Now will something actually happen to you in reality? Most likely no! I can promise you this. If you have spent more than 4 days in this city mongering and exploring, you have been sized up by someone at some point in some way for an unwelcome robbery or hustle. Someone profiled you. They either saw an easy target or a hard target that's not worth the effort. Thats is why you get robbed or avoid it. Rather it be your chica at a bar, cab driver to a fro, or just a guy in a polo shirt and jeans walking around with his friend. You do not know your enemy. Most likely you have been passed on for an easier target. These guys want quick easy cash "usually" and low risk of being caught. They will usually pass on the well informed, smart tourist that obviously has taken smart precautions like others have advised us to do. But you are not just safe and should never not watch your back. It doesn't matter the crime stats. Ignore those stupid increases or decreases. All it takes for is for you to be the victim one time before you regret ever coming. Come ready to party but always assume anyone that you talk to guy or girl could be sizing you up and texting their buddy, brother, or boyfriend about this sucker they found. Make yourself the hard target and 9 times out if 10 they will pass on you. When you know you have done things to become a hard target, you can then relax and get wild but still know your not safe ever. Question everyone and their intentions. Always. Be unpredictable. Change plans often when others are involved that you are not sure about. Lie about your situation to everyone. Make yourself seem like too much of a risk if possible to anyone that could be attempting to swindle you rather than outright rob you at gun or knife point. (Rare). If they do take the "more direct approach of stick them up" here's the street code: Give up your $# at t! It's not worth it. Nothing is. They might shoot you in the leg so that you can't chase them. Give them an easy escape. Drop to your knees even so you don't have the chase him down look. Keep money in your pocket (got to have meet on the bones) give them something to steal and it will end faster. Even if its $2 to them its a successful rob rather than nothing and now hes desperately searching all your crevices for that gringo stash. Always wanted to say that. Hahaha.

Chicas:

Yes SA and Colu Cupid are resources but really it boils down to how much time you will be there. If you will be there for weeks on weeks then they can be clutch. More of a long term tool as these girls are a mix of pros and non pros. And pros pretending not to be to get free dinner dates and money from desperate guys. For the average joe who's coming for a few days with the intent of banging the hottest girls they can in 4 to 6 days try my routine. First get Google maps and put flags on every strip club, massage parlor, club bar and restaurant in the city that you want to visit. This will give you a list of attractions to keep your downtime full. Dowtime is when your not getting quick enough responses from photopreoagos via whattsapp. I usually start with millereroticos and photoprepagos. When I go there I leave everything behind. I don't mux my daily normal life with my monger trips! Bad business. I begin mingering 1 month before I travel to San Jose or Medellin and end it before I get on the flight home. To stay under the radar: go to Google and download Google Talk or any second line service app (free of coarse). This will allow you to get a second phone number on your current phone. The number just disguises your number with whatever number you select so don't make cslls or text from it unless you're ok with it showing up on your phone bill. Only one reason you need this number. Now major key. WhatsApp!! Not just any whatsapp. Google GB Whatsapp. Its a cracked version that gives you incredible tools. You can do wayyy more than regular whatsapp users. Its amazing in my opinion. You can hid rather you saw the message, turn off video xalls znd sll kinds of other cheater tweeks LOL. Now that you have the app m, register with this new google number!! Once created your contacts in your phone have no idea that you have whatsapp because the new google number is listed to that whatsapp number not yours. Fell free to use whatever picture of you as a profile pic you want because noone can see it buf you and your perspective chicas. As far as your contacts, You can see them but they can't see you. Unless. You give them that number to save in their phone or stupidly message them. Save that for the chicas in Medellin!! Uninstall the app on your way home. You are instantly safe from awkward late night whatsapp video calls from drunken chicas that you over promised while there. Its like you were never there. If you come back. Reactive the account with the same number. Like you never left 😂128514;. I am a decent attractive guy so I don't have lots of trouble with girls. I found that on my first trip I signed up with Colum Cupid and started a paid account. Biggest mistake ever. I had a inbox with well over 100 women with active up and down conversations. So much effort! I had at leadt 10 pros set up and a bunch of "possible" non pros. Once I got there the first thing I did was order a chick to my door via photoprepagos. She arrived in an hour!! It was like a buffet. I messaged about 10 girls. Maybe 6 responded but not instantly. Some right away some the next day!! There are so many girls on there. You can message a ton and see who responds. They will respond! One evening I went to a strip club and banged a 10 (imo) there. Then massage parlors etc etc. Before you know it I realized I had not even touched a single chic from colomb Cupid! All those months of work and payments for nothing!! The women are there waiting for you already! The value for the short term mongers on a paid site is minimal unless you want a "possible" non pro! Besides the money you will spend entertaining her at dinner and drinks and cabs etcetc could be going to the woman whos going to drain you anyway. But hey its your money and time! Not saying its not a source but its for the fella that is really looking to get to know the girl before hand or just likes a pregamed connection. Long term travelers give it a try. 5 days and outters pssssh no need. Save that money for the girls there! LOL I find them in this order PP / millereroticos, massage parlors, strip clubs, girls in the bars (sky bar specifically) LOL.

I can't stress this enough. Tell them right away what you want from them. Do not try and spring it on them in the moment. It will kill your mood and hers! If its in person ensure you show it to her on google translate if you don't speak spanish! Let her agree by seeing it in her language. Some of them that don't speak your language well will agree not knowing that she just agreed to lick your ass or something LOL. Also Ensure the price is cop and not dollars. Had a stripper over after her shift for 250. I assumed she meant COP. Not dollars. Got cursed out that night at 4 am LOL. Bottom line have a plan for where you will meet the chicas, take pressure of of exactly which chica! Its a buffet! Get on PP and start messaging the hot chicks. Tell them when you will arrive. I have 6 or so that message me daily and had video sex with one today. Same concept as a pay site but free. Not normal as most of them are more secretive but hey I found one that wanted me too. Maybe She sees it as a build up to guarantee I purchase her when I arrive. I say "I'll be there next month, just want to make sure I have the best contact number to reach you when I arrive. I really want to meet you". They respond with a bunch of hearts or a "here's my personal number just in case." I'm a freaking player so results may vary!

Transportation:

Uber Everywhere! Cheaper than cabs there. Tip. Uber is like a job interview for me. I size up my uber driver. I now has his info, license plate, car name etc etc. I found a guy that I instantly hit it off with! Of course being that your never safe I probed him and felt a good vibe. We exchanged whatsapp numbers. He became my personal driver for 20.00 a day! ID call him and hed be there in in 20 minutes. Yes I could just call z regular uber but I felt safer with him as we bonded more. He even drove me to thd air port at 3:30 am the day I left. I went through 7 drivers before I met him! Stay in the uber network unless you strike gold like this. Follow your instincts. I arrive again in 3 weeks. He will be waiting for me at the air port with my favorite chica. Maybe i'll cancel him simply to be unpredictable in this country. You never know.

Ohhhhh before I go. Condoms:

Bring your own! Buy your favorite brand at home and bring them with you. Buy more than you will need! I'm decently endowed and couldn't find a single condom that didn't make my buddy look like a hanging victim. Really killed some of my appointments. I finally found one sex shop out of 20 that had a brand called Mysize or some crap like that. Did the job. But unsure about the quality with weird brands like eco-sex and pump-plastic hahaha.

[Wild Walleye]

LOL. White does not mean you are blending in. I am Black. I have been in Dominican Republic the past week and was in a hoarhouse full of Black people. It is one of my usual haunts. A newer chick came up and asked me in English, "Do you speak Spanish?" I laughed and said I have not spoken 1 word of English since I walked in that door, only Spanish. So why would you ask me that? So I wasn't blending in for shit. I am fucking that chick for free on her off time now though.

Or leave the group.Yes, in addition to looking similar to the locals, you do have to blend in. When I am traveling, I don't want to stand out. It is a little different than when I am in Asia or Africa and there is no chance of me blending in.

Working girls in a tourist locale should be pretty good at spotting visitors. Sounds like you are having a good time.

[Sho423]

Wow I didn't know BBFS and bbanal was a thing. I always assumed GFE just meant BBBJ. To each their own but are there girls in Medellin that actually allow bb everything?Haha I have a girl that lets me go BB and is on birth control and lets me cum inside her.

[JjBee62]

Wow I didn't know BBFS and bbanal was a thing. I always assumed GFE just meant BBBJ. To each their own but are there girls in Medellin that actually allow bb everything?There are girls everywhere that allow bb everything. Just from my experience they tend to be the ones who need to do that to compete. I've had several who offered BBFS on a second or third visit. There were a few who just didn't seem to care, they didn't even ask, just went straight to penetration.

[JjBee62]

I started to do my research and I tried to reach out to woman on Facebook. Not much results I actually had more success on SA (seeking Arrangement). Got a number of 20 woman age from 18 to 33. Now working out on whatsapp who I plan on visiting and seeing. I was going to hit 3 age groups under 20, in there 20 and over 30. I still did not get the pricing down, but I have a feeling on a few I can get possibly free. .

I ask my usual questions.

No condom oral.

No condom sex.

No condom anal.

Once say condom for all I delete. Now interesting some have agreed for all no condom but now trying to get them tested for STD and cleared for the fun. Any suggestion in how that can work. On SA you will find more average girl who needs financial help and has a full time job or in school.Why worry about getting them tested? If they're offering everything bb to a complete stranger, they are certain to be going bare with everyone else. Unless you go with them to be tested and keep them locked up until you get the results, they're going to be right back out there collecting sperm samples right up to the day you arrive.

Of course, as always, there's one critical flaw in your plan: Paisas lie. They'll tell you "sí mor" to anything from kissing to eating dead babies until they're in the room and you find out they don't do that, or that and especially not that.

[StripperMan]

I have begun researching massage therapists in Medellin on Google & Tripadvisor. I have an idea of pricing & types of facilities available, but have not yet decided on a particular place or therapist.

Do any of you guys get therapeutic non-sexual massages in Medellin? If so, please give me your recommendation. I will be more than happy to let the therapist know your referred me if you like. I am looking for one of two things:

1) Trigger-point massage done by someone skilled in releasing tendons & ligaments.

2) Swedish massage massage done by someone so well you practically fall asleep.

Because of my bad back I get a lot of trigger-point massage here in the USA, and I am used to a strong massage that actually hurts for a few days after. I would love to find someone in Medellin who can do that. However, I would be more than happy with an excellent Swedish massage therapist as well.

Please provide name & location of therapist as well as contact info. I do not have to go to a fancy spa. I understand that many independent massage therapists work out of small shops or even their own homes.

[Fun Luvr]

I ask my usual questions.

No condom oral.

No condom sex.

No condom anal.

Once say condom for all I delete. Now interesting some have agreed for all no condom but now trying to get them tested for STD and cleared for the fun. Do you realize the reason AIDS is so prevalent in the homosexual male population is because of unprotected anal sex? All the STD testing of your partner is of no use if you are planning to engage in deadly activities.

I am glad you are not hooking up with Facebook chicas, because I don't want to be with a chica that you have been with.

Have you checked the number of reported AIDS cases in California? It's a pretty bleak stat.

[Mr Enternational]

I am glad you are not hooking up with Facebook chicas, because I don't want to be with a chica that you have been with.LOL. So just because he didn't get her from facebook means that she is not a facebook girl? Hardly. They are not relegated to only solicit and work one venue.

He must be paying a lot of money to them though if they have got to go through all those changes going to clinics and shit.

[Sangnyc21]

Do you realize the reason AIDS is so prevalent in the homosexual male population is because of unprotected anal sex? All the STD testing of your partner is of no use if you are planning to engage in deadly activities.

I am glad you are not hooking up with Facebook chicas, because I don't want to be with a chica that you have been with.

Have you checked the number of reported AIDS cases in California? It's a pretty bleak stat.Yea this is the type of thing that really turns me off about the hobby. I know there are tons of guys here bb'ing girls.

I always believed girls who offer this should be exposed at least that way the guys looking for it can have a blast but at the same time it also keeps hobbyists from avoiding girls like this.

The truth is diseases are real and I'm not here judging on what your personal wants are in a session but if it endangers the rest of us we should be aware. I love a nice BBBJ and even BBBJCIM but everything else I absolutely wrap it up. But if I knew a girl was offering BBFS or bbanal I would shy away.

[Globotto]

I was so excited about my first trip to Colombia. The road from the airport descends into the city of Medellin from the mountains that surround it.

Its breathtaking, the weather was beautiful and the city is green with vegetation. A breath of fresh air compared to Bangkok but not nearly as convenient. The women in the sex trade are good if you like MILF's and MILF's with silicon breasts and asses. I actually found it humorous to see this. Gargantuan balloons some women are implanting in their ass. Its too fake for my tastes and in some cases a bit grotesque bad surgery. So the quest for a natural lady unscathed by childbirths is bit difficult. Certainly you will see lots of gorgeous peaches like on the transportation system or anywhere where they are not selling it but its going to be a bit difficult to operate if you don't speak Spanish. Somehow I feel they are saving themselves for that local guy who will knock them up and if it hits the skids at that point they might enter the sex trade. Either that or the BF or husband is the one also pimping them out. When you do hook up beware of gringo gouginig and "shitimacy". Most boutique hotels, guest houses etc. Don't allow you to bring in a local chick without paying some ridicules fee. So yes a beautiful city with more difficult operating instructions and frankly the food culture is horrible. Deep fried baseballs and ufo's everywhere is a recipe for indigestion and most of the chefs don't know how to cook well. If you dulge deep enough you will be able to find a decent place to eat or a supermarket that has quality selections. If you want to blow your brains out with cocaine and whatever chemicals are mixed in with it that won't be hard to find and its cheap. Ultimately this can lead a tourist to say. Medellin where the coke is better than the women.

[Fun Luvr]

I was at the Medellin Beer Factory and observed six very nice looking chicas between 10:30 and 11:30. Two were walking the sidewalk outside the MBF. When I went upstairs to the restroom, I met two coming down the stairs, and two more in front of me going down the stairs as I left. All six indicated they were P4P. I talked to one of the last pair and got her phone number. This morning I chatted with her. She initially asked for 100 dollars, but came down to 200 mil pesos without any negotiation. I will probably see her tomorrow.

All six were slim, no noticeable tattoos, and just looked classy. Some I have seen in that area are rough looking.

[Fun Luvr]

LOL. So just because he didn't get her from facebook means that she is not a facebook girl? Hardly. They are not relegated to only solicit and work one venue. I have looked on SA, and only found one of my Facebook friends.

[Blue Touch]

I see vendors selling wild berries, looking like one in the picture.

Is it safe for us foreigners to eat them?

Any thoughts?

[Lefeu]

I was so excited about my first trip to Colombia...The women in the sex trade are good if you like MILF's and MILF's with silicon breasts and asses...So the quest for a natural lady unscathed by childbirths is bit difficult.

...When you do hook up beware of gringo gouginig and "shitimacy".



.And you discovered all of that on your first trip! Amazing, I have taken close to 20 trips and could not disagree with you more. I suggest you take more trips, get to know the city and its people better. Then come back and give us your opinion.

[Lefeu]

...But if I knew a girl was offering BBFS or bbanal I would shy away.Unfortunately, there is just no way to know that, most of the time. These women are sex providers, and most of them would offer more for extra money. So, if you are concerned about that, it's better to just quit the hobby.

[BlueChange]

I started to do my research and I tried to reach out to woman on Facebook. Not much results I actually had more success on SA (seeking Arrangement). Got a number of 20 woman age from 18 to 33. Now working out on whatsapp who I plan on visiting and seeing. I was going to hit 3 age groups under 20, in there 20 and over 30. I still did not get the pricing down, but I have a feeling on a few I can get possibly free. .

I ask my usual questions.

No condom oral.

No condom sex.

No condom anal.

Once say condom for all I delete. Now interesting some have agreed for all no condom but now trying to get them tested for STD and cleared for the fun. Any suggestion in how that can work. On SA you will find more average girl who needs financial help and has a full time job or in school.The oral naturale (no condom oral) I get. We all like it. But ruling out ones that are yes Bareback off the bat, you are playing with fire. I think this whole "getting them tested" and stuff is like soo much planning already. The fact that you broke down this post into an almost spreadsheet like approach to getting pussy looks like you are planing WAY too much. I think you need to jump into the pool instead of checking the tempature and chlorine count of the water, As long as you got your bathing suit you'll be good. It is important to have chemistry with a chick first and foremost. Picture this Butch145, you getting with you perceive to be a "ten" you spend all this time and money courting, getting test, (hell even getting a paisa to show up on time is a full time job.) and finally you hit it and there is like no chemistry (maybe she kisses weird or you don't like the way she eats) You are better off just showing up and being there rather then this whole pre-production for pussy. The half life on intrest is short so play your hand right and make your moves once you are here.

God speed.

[Wolf662]

and frankly the food culture is horrible. Deep fried baseballs and ufo's everywhere is a recipe for indigestion and most of the chefs don't know how to cook well. If you dulge deep enough you will be able to find a decent place to eat or a supermarket that has quality selections. I look forward to the cheap delicious meals I have when in Medellin. They are a little meat heavy but that doesn't bother me too much on vacation.

Meal pics:

[Wolf662]

. The women in the sex trade are good if you like MILF's and MILF's with silicon breasts and asses. I actually found it humorous to see this. Gargantuan balloons some women are implanting in their ass. Its too fake for my tastes and in some cases a bit grotesque bad surgery. So the quest for a natural lady unscathed by childbirths is bit difficult. . Medellin where the coke is better than the women.Just where were you meeting these girls?

The ones who can't afford the surgeries are mostly the Centro street & strip club chicks. Of these chicks I know, only one was from a upper class place (Estrella from FaseII) The rest were VeraCruz street chicks and Conejitas & Barra Ejectiva strip club girls.

None seemed like MILF's to me:

[Knowledge]

The berries are fine but you must be very careful with the water you use to wash them.


I see vendors selling wild berries, looking like one in the picture.

Is it safe for us foreigners to eat them?

Any thoughts?

[JjBee62]

Just where were you meeting these girls?

The ones who can't afford the surgeries are mostly the Centro street & strip club chicks. Of these chicks I know, only one was from a upper class place (Estrella from FaseII) The rest were VeraCruz street chicks and Conejitas & Barra Ejectiva strip club girls.

None seemed like MILF's to me:Sounds like someone found and quoted some old mongers, disgruntled report. Certainly doesn't sound like someone who's seen it with his own eyes. While finding women with no kids isn't a sure thing, I wouldn't call an 18 - 20 mother of 1 a MILF, even if it is technically correct. Especially when she's got a flat stomach and a firm, shapely body.

The enhancements are out there, but there are plenty all natural girls. Only had 2 with boob jobs, both well done and not comically large. Never had a problem with gringo gouging and I'm not sure what "shitimacy" is supposed to be. Never ran into a girl being pimped out by her boyfriend or husband either.

I found the supermarkets to be excellent, regularly shopping at Euro, Carulla and Jumbo. Cheap produce with a selection that puts most US supermarkets to shame. Restaurants might be bland to people who are used to the oversalted, excessive fat content stuff served in the US, but it's healthy and cheap. Fresh fruit juice instead of carbonated sugar water and a full plate lunch instead of a burger and fries, at less than half the price.

Never tried the coke, at least not in Colombia. I remember it well from my younger days and even the average women were much better than any line. My problem was finding the time to spend with all the ones who were making me offers.

[ShawMan74]

Yea this is the type of thing that really turns me off about the hobby. I know there are tons of guys here bb'ing girls.

I always believed girls who offer this should be exposed at least that way the guys looking for it can have a blast but at the same time it also keeps hobbyists from avoiding girls like this.

The truth is diseases are real and I'm not here judging on what your personal wants are in a session but if it endangers the rest of us we should be aware. I love a nice BBBJ and even BBBJCIM but everything else I absolutely wrap it up. But if I knew a girl was offering BBFS or bbanal I would shy away.Another HUGE problem in the hobby is providers who book their clients back to back, literally one after another. Clients never know. In places where there is a crackdown on the hobby this is especially grievous. And too many clients are so damn hard up they stop caring.

[JonnyAnon]

OK, I just finished my first trip to Colombia, so it's time for my first trip report FTR, I've ventured to Prague and Pattaya in years past, so I'm not a stranger to international action. I am however a stranger to Spanish. I tried to cram in 3 weeks but really relied heavily on Google translate and miming.

First night (Weds) was spent in a bachelor party oriented rental. 10 bedrooms, indoor pool, right in Parque Lleras. My friends and I threw a (non bachelor) party there and as the night was wrapping up I discreetly got the concierge to show me a list of ladies. House rule -- have to order through this guy. Same with the powder. He gives me a price, 150 for 90 minutes, and once she (Mariana) arrives I meet her in one of the 10 bedrooms with other guests none the wiser. She was pretty hot, but averse to extras (I prefer oral without condom). We have nice sex. Then I want to go round 2. Not included. Damn. Then I pay 150 k pesos. Now she says $150 us dollars. Looking back the concierge said $150 and my brain thought 150 k pesos. Rookie move! I pay the remainder of the 450 k, and think about my mistake for the rest of the night.

Next day, I head to Centro in the early afternoon, get in some sightseeing then head towards the nearest brothel (according to the map, very glad I had that! It was called Sexy Fantasias 1, and get a cute young girl (Nicole) with fantastic natural breasts. Best pair I saw on the trip. Paid a little extra for oral sin condom (30 k) and a photo for the ol' scrapbook (10 k), total 82 k for 30 minutes.

Back to Parque Lleras, chill until evening in a new Airbnb just 3 bedrooms that I'm sharing with one buddy who's not into pay for play but loves his nose candy. We head out into the Parque Lleras night life, then back for lines, then out again (around 2 am). And boy were the professionals out in force by then. We fight off 6's, 5's, and even a 1 eyed / dwarf tag team (-1's) before chatting up some very hot ladies. My friend talks himself into "just doing some lines" off one of them, I bargain my pick down to 200 k, oral without condom, "multiple relations", 1 hour. Although the apartment is about a 3 minute walk, the girls ask for a taxi and in we get. While I'm enjoying rubbing bodies with the two ladies in the back, the taxi driver proceeds to get lost, then spots a cop up a side street and refuses to go further. So ironically we ended up walking anyway.

I was worried about the doorman but he was cool and in no time, four of us were dancing in the living room. I ask my buddy if he needs negotiating help, and he waves me off, confident in his superior spanish. Long story short the girl didn't want him to do rails, and he didn't want to stick his penis in, so he spent 200 k to argue with a naked girl. My 200 k was well spent, Mariana (another one) was just the sort of hot I now love Colombia for. I gave the girls taxi money, and laughed at my friend a bit and tried to go to bed before dawn.

Next day, I venture out again towards centro for sightseeing and cap it off an New Life in the afternoon. A better line-up of 12 girls, of which I select another young one (Daniela) with a great natural ass and tits and warm smile. That was an awesome session; oral sin condom, photo, 30 aerobic minutes for 100 k pesos later.

My buddy and I head out to Parque Lleras again in the night, despite me trying to talk him into a more upscale experience, and we end up at a nightclub crawling with pros at Carrera 38 and Calle 8 a. I don't remember the name, but it was not Gustos. No cover, the bar fine is buying a bottle for 188 k minimum. Fuck that, we bounce and call it a night.

Next day, I'm again exploring the city alone, and although I'm in the mood for a higher end experience, decide to get a quicky in at Aiffe. I was greeted by a cute but kinda surly girl, ask for a lineup and eventually the girls start coming through. I wasn't very impressed with the lineup that day but I ended up selecting a taller MILF from the line up. Turns out I got the names mixed up and ended up with the original surly girl (Carolina)! I warmed her up, and didn't press for extras just enjoyed a simple, cheap 30 minute session for 50 k. In the end I enjoyed this session quite a bit because nothing fixes a frown like a dick in it. I'm glad I went for it, because I meet up with friends in the night and didn't have another chance to enjoy a lady that day.

On the next day, I secure a late checkout from the airbnb and line up a visit to a nice caramel colombiana from mileroticos.com. Her apartment is in Poblado, and the trip in is uneventful except for the fact that a black woman answered. Definitely not from the picture. I'm asked to wait in a room, and after some Whatsapp'ing discover my date is actually on her way. A good 20 minutes later a cute college student shows up with the nice natural breasts I selected. I add 50 k extra for oral sin condom and enjoy a couple of very enjoyable sessions in the 90 minutes. 200 k total.

Then I check into M2. I wish I had booked into M1, and not on a Sunday / Monday night, because things were dead. But I did think it was worth it for me. The first night, I head to La Cueva around 8 pm to check it out. I'm actually pretty tired, and decide I'm not going to select and then wait for someone from mileroticos, nor make it to La Isla (something I had in my mind that afternoon), so I choose the best available option which was Maria. Great move. For 200 k I had great GFE with a Olympic-level sexual athlete. She was an absolute fuck machine.

The next day, I order up another woman from Lindasvip.com. My first choice wasn't available, but I chose a beautifully enhanced MILF (Veronica) was pretty happy with the woman that came through the door. I didn't realize there was a check-in procedure; I had let her in and management knocked on the door. She went off to check ID and there was a disagreement about whether her ID was "valid". There was no way this girl was under 30 let alone 18, and someone recognized her, so it ended up not being an issue. I had a great GFE session with her (kissing, 69, oral sin condom all included) for 220 k.

I headed to the cave that night but didn't see anything I had to fuck. So I set up a morning repeat with Maria and headed to bed to marshal my energy. That was a good session, and a nice way to cap off my time in the mansion.

I only had one more encounter; upon moving to my final airbnb, I met some people who dropped that they went to "Loutron". Next thing I'm heading there with new friends. Apparently the guy had been hitting Loutron's and putting a double (500 k) on his credit card daily: the I can appreciate why, absolutely stunning lineup, 20 or so ladies, and it was very hard to choose Valentina, she was by far the hottest woman on the trip. 300 k for the hour. Oral sin condom was too expensive (280 k). That was a great way to cap the trip. I was hoping to stop by Loutron's on the way to the airport but it didn't work out.

Medellin is my new favorite city, and its not even close! Hope I can get back. Shout out to World Travel 69, that map was clutch.

[Butch145]

The oral naturale (no condom oral) I get. We all like it. But ruling out ones that are yes Bareback off the bat, you are playing with fire. I think this whole "getting them tested" and stuff is like soo much planning already.

God speed.I tend to agree with you regarding BBFS and if the girls from Craigslist or Backpage (which are gone) I would never but on SA you do need to do research a lot of the girls need financial help and are not pro. Usually are student and need extra money. One girl just simply told me she needed money to pay her father back for charging up his card and would never be on the site otherwise. Again with good research you can find an amazing find on SA granted it may cost you extra but the worth the hunt.

I have looked in portable HIV test that can be given and results in 20 min.

[Dcfan77]

Be a man and post some female pics LOL!


I look forward to the cheap delicious meals I have when in Medellin. They are a little meat heavy but that doesn't bother me too much on vacation.

Meal pics:

[Mr Enternational]

nothing fixes a frown like a dick in it.That is so true. I had a chick in Pattaya that was being a total jacka$$. She had come over a few months before and I put her out without fucking and no money. She kept pestering me to come back, so I allowed it the few months later because I thought she had changed her ways. She hadn't. But when we started fucking it was like she was a totally different person. Finished fucking, went back to being the same biaaaa.

How would you rate the $150 chick versus the 100 K peso chick?

I like how you bounced around staying different places to check them out. I know a lot of guys like to settle in one place, but if you went all that way why not check out a little of a few places so you know where you would like to settle your next visit.

[Dccpa]

Sounds like someone found and quoted some old mongers, disgruntled report. Certainly doesn't sound like someone who's seen it with his own eyes. While finding women with no kids isn't a sure thing, I wouldn't call an 18 - 20 mother of 1 a MILF, even if it is technically correct. Especially when she's got a flat stomach and a firm, shapely body.

The enhancements are out there, but there are plenty all natural girls. Only had 2 with boob jobs, both well done and not comically large. Never had a problem with gringo gouging and I'm not sure what "shitimacy" is supposed to be. Never ran into a girl being pimped out by her boyfriend or husband either.

I found the supermarkets to be excellent, regularly shopping at Euro, Carulla and Jumbo. Cheap produce with a selection that puts most US supermarkets to shame. Restaurants might be bland to people who are used to the oversalted, excessive fat content stuff served in the US, but it's healthy and cheap. Fresh fruit juice instead of carbonated sugar water and a full plate lunch instead of a burger and fries, at less than half the price.

Never tried the coke, at least not in Colombia. I remember it well from my younger days and even the average women were much better than any line. My problem was finding the time to spend with all the ones who were making me offers.Attitude determines experience. Recently, I went on a humanitarian trip to Cuenca. For my first meal, I couldn't find the restaurant I was looking for and ending up buying a burger and fries. Got back to the B&B and took one bite of the over sauced burger. Threw it away. The burger was mediocre and I could have eaten it. But I didn't travel to South America to have US Food. I got the B&B owner to show me where the kabob restaurant was. Excellent kabobs with beef, chicken & sausage + dipping sauces.

[KelJo]

The women in the sex trade are good if you like MILF's and MILF's with silicon breasts and asses.I think you must be going about this much differently than me. I've been to Medellin for 3 short trips this year, I've seen 17 different girls. Only two had breast implants. Only one had ass implants. About half had had a kid and of those only one had any real damage from that. All of these were girls I connected with via Facebook. I like spinners and I had no trouble getting all natural spinner types in Medellin.

[Wolf662]

Be a man and post some female pics LOL!I am going to assume you were joking since the post right after that one I posted was full of girls pics. And I think I have posted more MED girls pic's in the last year then the rest of you combined. LOL.

On another note I hope the thumbnails come back soon and the site automatically resizing the pics.

[JonnyAnon]

How would you rate the $150 chick versus the 100 K peso chick?Mariana 1 ($150 chick) was great at pre-game and post-game. She was cute and fun to hang out with, considering the circumstances. And the sex was pretty decent. When I consider what I pay in the states it was still a good deal.

Daniela (100 k chick) was into fucking me, it was almost personal. I think that skews how I look back on it. On average the centro chicks were 7's and the sex a little perfunctory. But I still loved it and would keep going back to that kind of place. It's just so quick. Walk in the door and 45 minutes later you're drained, dressed and showered. It takes me 45 minutes to even choose who to see off a site!

[Methius]

New sala?

It's around corner from Zandaly, middle of block.

Prices comparable to New Life. Not a 'hotel,' more like a row house with two bedrooms on second floor and two girls. Card overstated services offered at the time of my visit. No anal, excellent service nonetheless. Girls 6 to 7. 5. Might be worth a shot if you are in the area, if they are still open.

[GringoItaliano]

I did the same thing last year, while I was living in Poblado. Booked 2 nights at M2 in order to check it out. I was there Friday and Saturday nights, although I didn't stay in the room Saturday night, only returning Sunday to get my stuff and check out. Here's my impression.

The room I had was 212, which had no bathroom. I had to use the bathroom at the pool, which was closed for renovations. The room was cheaper than the other rooms, but more expensive than Hotel Porton Medellin, where I had stayed a few weeks earlier. The Mansion room, if it had a bathroom would have been a 2 star room, while Hotel Porton Medellin was 4 stars. The furniture looked like it spent 20 years in a frat house, before being moved to M2. At least the room was clean and quiet. I understand that they have remodeled that room since then. It may be better now.Has anyone stayed in this room at the Mansion (M212) since this poster stayed in it last year? I chose this room in particular for a future trip in part because the website said that it has a hot tub in the bathroom (the pictures show what appears to be a large and new bathroom, including a toilet, a hot tub, and a shower). Could this bathroom be the result of the renovations that they did after this poster stayed in that room?

I understand that the Mansion's accommodations are sub-par for the price, but the lack of a bathroom would be a real problem, if only because it might make sessions and showering a bit awkward. The false advertising would also be a bit troubling.

[ColombiaLover]

I will post more information in the lists section, but I've noticed there are several love motels in San Cristobal. Went to one last night called Motel President. It felt like we had the place to ourselves. We got a junior suite with a jacuzzi and sauna. Tons of room. Sound system worked good. Even had a back patio where we ate dinner. Food was actually pretty good. Both of us had chicken with white wine sauce.

We paid for 6 hours, but they have a deal where you can come any time after 6 pm And stay until 2 pm The next day and the cost is only about 20 mil more than the 6 hours. If I had more time, I would have done that. I can't find my detailed bill, but I believe the 6 hours was 86 mil.

The bed was big and fairly comfortable for a Colombian bed. Good lighting. Even had a strobe light if you wanted to use it. Mini-bar was well stocked. I would recommend it for multi-hour fun with a chica. Best thing is you do not have to worry about the nose like you do in an apartment.

The owner is listed as Salgar. They also own another love motel in San Cristobal that I used about 3 weeks ago. I need to go back and find the name. It was also good. And same deals.

[Queens35]

I can't speak for Buenos Aires, but in Medellin everyone knows you aren't a local. However, if you're not drawing lots of attention to yourself, very few people care. If you walk the same streets enough times, the locals might assume you live there, but they know you aren't a native.

The other stuff is good advice. It boils down to not making yourself an obvious target.Trust me, you are not fooling anybody, no matter what you dress like. You can walk down the street wrapped in a Colombian flag but they will know you are a foreigner from a mile away. That whole idea of blend in is misleading. It's not so much blend in, but more to not stand out. Depending on how you look at it, it's the same thing.

I speak fluent Spanish with NO gringo accent (I was born in Europe so English is not my first language so the Spanish sounds come easy to me). I can't ever pass for a Colombian. I have been asked what Latin country I'm from a couple of times, but never could pass for a local in Colo.

[Knowledge]

Yes, I agree but it is not North Korea after all. It's not like anybody is going to wind up in a labor camp because you are foreign. As others said, it's much more important to avoid coming off as clueless mark than pretending to be Colombian.


Trust me, you are not fooling anybody, no matter what you dress like. You can walk down the street wrapped in a Colombian flag but they will know you are a foreigner from a mile away. That whole idea of blend in is misleading. It's not so much blend in, but more to not stand out. Depending on how you look at it, it's the same thing.

I speak fluent Spanish with NO gringo accent (I was born in Europe so English is not my first language so the Spanish sounds come easy to me). I can't ever pass for a Colombian. I have been asked what Latin country I'm from a couple of times, but never could pass for a local in Colo.

[JjBee62]

I tend to agree with you regarding BBFS and if the girls from Craigslist or Backpage (which are gone) I would never but on SA you do need to do research a lot of the girls need financial help and are not pro. Usually are student and need extra money. One girl just simply told me she needed money to pay her father back for charging up his card and would never be on the site otherwise. Again with good research you can find an amazing find on SA granted it may cost you extra but the worth the hunt.

I have looked in portable HIV test that can be given and results in 20 min.The do it yourself HIV test has a very high rate of false negative results. It's very good at positive results. If it gives you a HIV positive result, you can be sure the person is HIV positive. However, if it gives you a negative result, it's only slightly more accurate than flipping a coin.

And it is useless to check for Hepatitis.

[ShawMan74]

I think you must be going about this much differently than me. I've been to Medellin for 3 short trips this year, I've seen 17 different girls. Only two had breast implants. Only one had ass implants. About half had had a kid and of those only one had any real damage from that. All of these were girls I connected with via Facebook. I like spinners and I had no trouble getting all natural spinner types in Medellin.

Whats the link for facebook hookups? Are there any phone apps you know of for mongering? We as men drive the demand. If we want tiny dancers then by god they will do their best to be what we like. But if we don't verify a demand for the spinners we love so much, then what few remain will all go the way of the kardashian. Unfortunately that is EASIER than being lithe and disciplined :(

[Blue Touch]

It's been there for several years under different names. There are only few girls. No stunner.


New sala?

It's around corner from Zandaly, middle of block.

Prices comparable to New Life. Not a 'hotel,' more like a row house with two bedrooms on second floor and two girls. Card overstated services offered at the time of my visit. No anal, excellent service nonetheless. Girls 6 to 7. 5. Might be worth a shot if you are in the area, if they are still open.

[Sho423]

How much do girls at the Mansion usually charge?

[Pokeris]

How much do girls at the Mansion usually charge?150-200 mil short time 300-400 mil for all night.

[Black Page]

How much do girls at the Mansion usually charge?Now I expect someone might also post "What is the Mansion?"
Someone will respond, others will comment. There must be a reason if this thread is one of the most active ones in the whole ISG.

[Nclpimp]

I loves me some bandeja paisa calentado cazuela de frijoles why empanadas. Carne asada and all that tipical food. But looks like you went to local places. They also have high end joints which will have nice decor, hot waitresses, atmosphere, view and presentation.


I look forward to the cheap delicious meals I have when in Medellin. They are a little meat heavy but that doesn't bother me too much on vacation.

Meal pics:

[Knowledge]

The Hato Viejo chain is a nice compromise. They charge about 30% more than the run of the mill streetside places for slightly gussied up Colombian fare. The dining rooms are more comfortable and better decorated the plate of the day places that are on every block.


I loves me some bandeja paisa calentado cazuela de frijoles why empanadas. Carne asada and all that tipical food. But looks like you went to local places. They also have high end joints which will have nice decor, hot waitresses, atmosphere, view and presentation.

[Dcfan77]

Yeah was joking. LOL.


I am going to assume you were joking since the post right after that one I posted was full of girls pics. And I think I have posted more MED girls pic's in the last year then the rest of you combined. LOL.

On another note I hope the thumbnails come back soon and the site automatically resizing the pics.

[Dcfan77]

Getting Facebook girls is easy but takes time. It's all about networking. When your there and find a chica you like At a club or casa. Get your WhatsApp or Facebook. Most of the centro girls are from the barrio. And there are literally tons that turn 18 everyday. Ask the your chica if she has friends. Most will say yes and that's who you start your own network of barrio girls. I've been going there for years. It does take time but it's worth it. Most barrio girl are happy with 80 k -100 k. Becuase in the casa they only get 30 k-40 k from the 60 k the house barges if not less. Always remember never never Completely trust these barrio girls. Lying Is very common.


Whats the link for facebook hookups? Are there any phone apps you know of for mongering? We as men drive the demand. If we want tiny dancers then by god they will do their best to be what we like. But if we don't verify a demand for the spinners we love so much, then what few remain will all go the way of the kardashian. Unfortunately that is EASIER than being lithe and disciplined :(

[The Tall Man]

Getting Facebook girls is easy but takes time. It's all about networking. When your there and find a chica you like At a club or casa. Get your WhatsApp or Facebook. Most of the centro girls are from the barrio. And there are literally tons that turn 18 everyday. Ask the your chica if she has friends. Most will say yes and that's who you start your own network of barrio girls. I've been going there for years. It does take time but it's worth it. Most barrio girl are happy with 80 k -100 k. Becuase in the casa they only get 30 k-40 k from the 60 k the house barges if not less. Always remember never never Completely trust these barrio girls. Lying Is very common.LMFAO was it not regan who said "trust but verify", this is how I deal with the barrio girls, yes a few of which I actually have taken back to my crib.

Some of them whom I too have gotten to know over the past few years are truly a lot of fun and then mix it up by meeting their friends. Out of these a select few whom I have partied with like a rock star, off the charts experiences.

I too pay between 50 and 100 mil, worth every damn peso.

TTM.

[Wolf662]

I loves me some bandeja paisa calentado cazuela de frijoles why empanadas. Carne asada and all that tipical food. But looks like you went to local places. They also have high end joints which will have nice decor, hot waitresses, atmosphere, view and presentation.Well yes, mostly I go to the low price places in Centro, mostly Brasa Pan 'cause it's cheap, good and 24 HR and right around the corner from my hotel.

However pic #1 was Botaniko Bistro- Calle 56 #43 - 43. (next to New Life) and pic #2 & #8 were from Hacienda on Junin Walking Street- Carrera 49, 52-98 Paseo Junin https://www.haciendaorigen.com/.

And pic #10 was Cafe Colombo Credenza-Carrera 45 No 53-24.10th Floor http://www.credenzafoods.com/.

None of those 3 are cheap local joints really. But they are good, with Credenza being my fav in Centro.

(P. S. , looks like thumbnails are back! WOOHOOO!

[JjBee62]

Well yes, mostly I go to the low price places in Centro, mostly Brasa Pan 'cause it's cheap, good and 24 HR and right around the corner from my hotel.

However pic #1 was Botaniko Bistro- Calle 56 #43 - 43. (next to New Life) and pic #2 & #8 were from Hacienda on Junin Walking Street- Carrera 49, 52-98 Paseo Junin https://www.haciendaorigen.com/.

And pic #10 was Cafe Colombo Credenza-Carrera 45 No 53-24.10th Floor http://www.credenzafoods.com/.

None of those 3 are cheap local joints really. But they are good, with Credenza being my fav in Centro.

(P. S. , looks like thumbnails are back! WOOHOOO!Hacienda has other locations, including one at La Strada mall and one in ciudad del rio. The ciudad del rio location is right by my favorite Italian restaurant in Medellin. Just can't remember the name.

[Knowledge]

Botaniko is pretty cheap but not quite Brasa Pan cheap.


Well yes, mostly I go to the low price places in Centro, mostly Brasa Pan 'cause it's cheap, good and 24 HR and right around the corner from my hotel.

However pic #1 was Botaniko Bistro- Calle 56 #43 - 43. (next to New Life) and pic #2 & #8 were from Hacienda on Junin Walking Street- Carrera 49, 52-98 Paseo Junin https://www.haciendaorigen.com/.

And pic #10 was Cafe Colombo Credenza-Carrera 45 No 53-24.10th Floor http://www.credenzafoods.com/.

None of those 3 are cheap local joints really. But they are good, with Credenza being my fav in Centro.

(P. S. , looks like thumbnails are back! WOOHOOO!

[JSmith49]

I'm new to this mongering game but I am heading to Medellin next week and someone suggested to me the site photoprepagos.com. I just wanted to know if this is legit. Also some of these bio's the girls say they have their own private apartment. Is it safe to go to these women apartments. Please get back to me. Thank you.

[Jooks]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwvnTbT0Njo

Not sure if this has been discussed. This guy has put out a series of videos on Medellin. Many aspects from picking up women to discussing COP, the link above. Much of it is basic and probably nothing new to most here, but probably helpful to newcomers.

[Crypton]

I was so excited about my first trip to Colombia. The road from the airport descends into the city of Medellin from the mountains that surround it.

Its breathtaking, the weather was beautiful and the city is green with vegetation. A breath of fresh air compared to Bangkok but not nearly as convenient. The women in the sex trade are good if you like MILF's and MILF's with silicon breasts and asses. I actually found it humorous to see this. Gargantuan balloons some women are implanting in their ass. Its too fake for my tastes and in some cases a bit grotesque bad surgery. So the quest for a natural lady unscathed by childbirths is bit difficult. Certainly you will see lots of gorgeous peaches like on the transportation system or anywhere where they are not selling it but its going to be a bit difficult to operate if you don't speak Spanish. Somehow I feel they are saving themselves for that local guy who will knock them up and if it hits the skids at that point they might enter the sex trade. Either that or the BF or husband is the one also pimping them out. When you do hook up beware of gringo gouginig and "shitimacy". Most boutique hotels, guest houses etc. Don't allow you to bring in a local chick without paying some ridicules fee. So yes a beautiful city with more difficult operating instructions and frankly the food culture is horrible. Deep fried baseballs and ufo's everywhere is a recipe for indigestion and most of the chefs don't know how to cook well. If you dulge deep enough you will be able to find a decent place to eat or a supermarket that has quality selections. If you want to blow your brains out with cocaine and whatever chemicals are mixed in with it that won't be hard to find and its cheap. Ultimately this can lead a tourist to say. Medellin where the coke is better than the women.Wow. That is a scathing review with superbroad, gross generalizations! Certainly not my experience in Medellin. In my subjective opinion, Medellin has some of the most gorgeous women in the world. And the ones I was with were not bad either. In reading this forum on a regular basis, I know that I am not the only one who has had extremely pleasant experiences in Medellin. Sorry it did not go as planned for you.

[El Mechanico]

I'm new to this mongering game but I am heading to Medellin next week and someone suggested to me the site photoprepagos.com. I just wanted to know if this is legit. Also some of these bio's the girls say they have their own private apartment. Is it safe to go to these women apartments. Please get back to me. Thank you.I had mixed success with photoprepagos in July. One was a homerun, looked exactly like the photos the other looked like the photos but everything hurt and she was in a hurry. Just like any of them you never know until you get behind closed doors and start the session. I have had really good excess with Mileroticos and photo PP, but like every other venue in Medellin or Costa Rica or anywhere some are home runs, some are strikeouts. Good luck give it a chance.

EL Mechanico.

[Smoothy]

I was so excited about my first trip to Colombia. The road from the airport descends into the city of Medellin from the mountains that surround it.

Its breathtaking, the weather was beautiful and the city is green with vegetation. A breath of fresh air compared to Bangkok but not nearly as convenient. The women in the sex trade are good if you like MILF's and MILF's with silicon breasts and asses. I actually found it humorous to see this. Gargantuan balloons some women are implanting in their ass. Its too fake for my tastes and in some cases a bit grotesque bad surgery. A lot of plastic surgery? And how is this different from Bangkok? There are few places in this world with more plastic surgery than Bangkok. And a LOT of tattoos. It's gotten to the point where it's not easy to find a girl in Bangkok who hasn't had a nose job. (and I am not just talking about the ladyboys, the girls also have it) The Indonesian girls I know who have boob jobs got that done in Bangkok because the doctors are so expert at plastic surgery due to lots of experience.

As far as MILF's, I guess that depends on your definition. A buddy of mine was calling an 18 year old girl in Medellin a MILF because she had a kid when she was 15 years old. He says the M stands for mother, so any girl of any age with a kid is a MILF.

[TheCarlAnthony]

I've been to about 7 different apartments. For each girl that I banged, I noticed a very common theme in the homes. Not much there. On two different occasions while waiting for my uber driver to pick me up I noticed the girl walking out with a bag and in regular clothes. I became curious and started asking them. Each gurl said the same thing. They rent out the house for each use. They normally do not actually live there. This isn't for every girl as some actually use their apartments. To be safe its best to spend the extra $20 and have them come to you if you are really concerned. Though I've never had a bad experience all it takes is one to change everything. First resort ID say have them come to you. If you must go to them, Always try and ask for them to video chat 1st so you can confirm her identity and that its her. If she's not willing to do it, (most arent) ask her If she will send you a picture giving a peace sign or something so you can confirm atleast its the same body. If she denies that also and isn't willing to come to you, all you red flags are there. Either move on or take the last resort risk of telling the girl to come to the door so you can see her before you go in. In this case I would normally tell your uber or cab that you will pay them to wait outside for you. If she's different walk right back to the uber or cab and get the F out of there. Girls are very secretive so I wouldn't expect them to reveal their faces until you arrive but at all times have an immediate escape if needed. I had an uber driver that agreed to stop taking uber calls for an hour and sit in front of the complex for $10. The average uber driver gets paid way less than $10 after multiple trips because uber is dirt cheap there. Most would love to sit and wait rather hipe they get a ping. Use all your resources to your advantage and youll be fine. When in doubt. Have them come to you and if you open the door to someone other than in the picture, close the door. Thats the safest method.


I'm new to this mongering game but I am heading to Medellin next week and someone suggested to me the site photoprepagos.com. I just wanted to know if this is legit. Also some of these bio's the girls say they have their own private apartment. Is it safe to go to these women apartments. Please get back to me. Thank you.

[Black Page]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwvnTbT0Njo

Not sure if this has been discussed. This guy has put out a series of videos on Medellin. Many aspects from picking up women to discussing COP, the link above. Much of it is basic and probably nothing new to most here, but probably helpful to newcomers.I followed the link, I contributed to increasing its counters, and the first video I saw was "Learn about Colombian Money". He shows bills and gives the rough equivalent in USD. What I learned is that this guy has some problem with math, specifically with multiplications.

[Wolf662]

I'm new to this mongering game but I am heading to Medellin next week and someone suggested to me the site photoprepagos.com. I just wanted to know if this is legit. Also some of these bio's the girls say they have their own private apartment. Is it safe to go to these women apartments. Please get back to me. Thank you.My opinion on the matter. The web girls are like Russian Roulette. Some time it's great and sometimes it sucks. You'll have some bait and switch pictures, old pictures, photoshopped pictures and that's before you get to attitude and general sexiness. I prefer to hit the strip club bordellos in Medellin, you'll have up to 50 girls to choose from and you can see them in person 1st and sit and have a drink and chat and check them out. Then you can test drive in the club, and if you hit it off get her WhatsApp and see her later / the next day etc. You can aslo pay the club a fee and leave with the girl right then.

The Centro clubs will be $25 to $30 on site for girl + room, the upscale clubs like Fase II will be $65 and up.

[Jooks]

I followed the link, I contributed to increasing its counters, and the first video I saw was "Learn about Colombian Money". He shows bills and gives the rough equivalent in USD. What I learned is that this guy has some problem with math, specifically with multiplications.It's one of at least a dozen or so videos. Here's another one on night life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D83AqU7jLgo.

The guy definitely has some math issues and with saying "you know what I mean" 100 times in each video, but it's good basic info.

[Wolf662]

Botaniko is pretty cheap but not quite Brasa Pan cheap.Yeah I don't get it when people say they don't like Colombian food, what's not to like? These dishes at Brasa Pan are all $3 to $5:
(and it's 24 HR, we'd leave FaseII and head right there at 2 am. Always more then you can eat too.).

[Wolf662]

It's one of at least a dozen or so videos. Here's another one on night life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D83AqU7jLgo.

The guy definitely has some math issues and with saying "you know what I mean" 100 times in each video, but it's good basic info.Speaking of night life, if anybody wants to party somewhere besides Poblado and Laureles, the club strip in Bello looks pretty fun, in Barrio Obrero, Bello, Carrera 52- Calle 33:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZlLEmYOgME&t=94s&list=FLKmbj3XF1ryOYtieVrQey4g&index=8

(If anyone see the blond at 1:25, please tell her I love her. LOL).

[Jayson01]

Is he saying don't use ATM out in Medellin? I'the imagine like anywhere you have to watch your back unless there is specific organized crime against ATMs in Colombia.

In Africa some ATM have 24/7 security guards actually.

Why the need for western union if visa with ATM are safe.


It's one of at least a dozen or so videos. Here's another one on night life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D83AqU7jLgo.

The guy definitely has some math issues and with saying "you know what I mean" 100 times in each video, but it's good basic info.

[Wolf662]

Is he saying don't use ATM out in Medellin? I'the imagine like anywhere you have to watch your back unless there is specific organized crime against ATMs in Colombia.

In Africa some ATM have 24/7 security guards actually.

Why the need for western union if visa with ATM are safe.I prefer the indoor ones like the ones in Hotel Nutribara's lobby, or the one on Junin Walking street that has a armed security guard standing there.

[JSmith49]

My opinion on the matter. The web girls are like Russian Roulette. Some time it's great and sometimes it sucks. You'll have some bait and switch pictures, old pictures, photoshopped pictures and that's before you get to attitude and general sexiness. I prefer to hit the strip club bordellos in Medellin, you'll have up to 50 girls to choose from and you can see them in person 1st and sit and have a drink and chat and check them out. Then you can test drive in the club, and if you hit it off get her WhatsApp and see her later / the next day etc. You can aslo pay the club a fee and leave with the girl right then.

The Centro clubs will be $25 to $30 on site for girl + room, the upscale clubs like Fase II will be $65 and up.I'm down to try that as well. Which are the best strip clubs to go to there?

[El Mechanico]

When in doubt. Have them come to you and if you open the door to someone other than in the picture, close the door. Thats the safest method.If you do this be careful! Now they know which room you're in and at minimum which hotel or apartment you were in. They all have boyfriends and friends and brothers and cousins etc. Etc. Etc. It would be best to throw them 20 or 40 KCOP for taxi money if you're going to close the door in their face. Otherwise you will be a gringo in a foreign country pissing somebody off. And if you don't at least throw her taxi money she will have spent some of her money for nothing. Even though she lied to you she is out her taxi money. JMHO.

EL MECHANICO.

[Eszpresszo]

They all have boyfriends and friends and brothers and cousins etc. Etc. Etc. It would be best to throw them 20 or 40 KCOP for taxi money if you're going to close the door in their face.How many prostitutes do you know that get their male relatives involved in their activities?

[Big Boss Man]

Is he saying don't use ATM out in Medellin? I'the imagine like anywhere you have to watch your back unless there is specific organized crime against ATMs in Colombia.

In Africa some ATM have 24/7 security guards actually.

Why the need for western union if visa with ATM are safe.Actually using Western Union is not the dumbest money strategy I have seen. As an experiment, I looked at Xoom because I have a Paypal account and they charge $5 plus 3% foreign currency fee. All the supermarkets like Exito and Carulla (open on weekends) have the service according to Xoom. The supermarkets limit you to $1000 per transaction. My credit union would charge me 3% and I would have to pay ATM fees for each transaction. So it would probably take 4 ATM transactions to buy $1000 in Colombian pesos so Xoom is cheaper.

I recommend finding a debit card that has no foreign currency exchange fee and forgives the ATM transaction cost. I use Schwab but you need to open a brokerage account to get the service last I checked.

[Ty Down]

It's one of at least a dozen or so videos. Here's another one on night life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D83AqU7jLgo.

The guy definitely has some math issues and with saying "you know what I mean" 100 times in each video, but it's good basic info.I watched a few of his videos before my trip to Medellin last month, hahaha poor fellow got punked by some chica he meet on facebook, well here, I'll let him tell his sordid story on what happened. Warning, by the end of the video he is a crying emotional wreck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGeaUydEWpo

[MedellinGringo]

Is he saying don't use ATM out in Medellin? I'the imagine like anywhere you have to watch your back unless there is specific organized crime against ATMs in Colombia.

In Africa some ATM have 24/7 security guards actually.

Why the need for western union if visa with ATM are safe.Buy far the best way to get money in Colombia is using ATM's. They will give you the best exchange rate on average and if you use a debit card from fidelity or Charles Schwab they will reimburse your ATM fees. For purchase use a credit card with no foreign transaction fee or cash.

Wiring money with Xoom or Western Union is a bad idea because of the fees and the an exchange rate that is not as good at you get at ATMs.

[DramaFree11]

Not sure what is worse in Colombia the food or the service, just be prepared and reasonable expectations. As far as girls if you are into big ass you will love it, if you are into more the European look, not sure if you will like it. Girls very accessible, fair prices and many times are willing to spend the night. I real do not care if they spend the night, but some guys love this.

Yeah I don't get it when people say they don't like Colombian food, what's not to like? These dishes at Brasa Pan are all $3 to $5:

(and it's 24 HR, we'd leave FaseII and head right there at 2 am. Always more then you can eat too.

[Wolf662]

I'm down to try that as well. Which are the best strip clubs to go to there?Some of the strip clubs.

The upscale ones:

FaseII-Cra. 44 #30-15.

http://www.clubfasedos.com/

Bar La Isla-Las Palmas Medellin.

Grill San Diego-Calle 37 No. 45-15.

Luna Lunera-Calle 33 63 be-215.

http://lunalunera.com.co

The cheaper ones:

Barra Ejecutiva-Calle 53 #48-20.

And 2 doors down:

Maracaibo-Calle 53 #49-30.

Conejitas Show Bar-Calle 53 #51-41.

And a few doors to the right:

Grille Nueva Avenida.

There are a few more I haven't been to also.

[JjBee62]

How many prostitutes do you know that get their male relatives involved in their activities?Considering the number that get their sisters, cousins, friends and even daughters involved in their activities, it's not much of a stretch to have one or more male cousins aware of how they're making money.

Getting girls off the ad sites is always going to be a risky venture. You don't know who you're contacting. Having the person who answers the door not look like their pictures is the least that can go wrong.

For some people it seems like the easiest thing, like ordering out of the catalog. Spend some time looking at pictures, find a good one and send a message. Easy as can be. Of course for the girls, or the pimps, it's the easiest thing too. Post an add and wait for responses. You might get lucky and get a real gem, but you're going to be disappointed more than you'll be thrilled.

[Wolf662]

Not sure what is worse in Colombia the food or the service, just be prepared and reasonable expectations. As far as girls if you are into big ass you will love it, if you are into more the European look, not sure if you will like it. Girls very accessible, fair prices and many times are willing to spend the night. I real do not care if they spend the night, but some guys love this.I guess we will agree to disagree on that. I have never had bad service at any restaurant or any food I didn't think was great.

As to big butts, some girls certainly have them but I have had no problem finding petite either.

[El Mechanico]

How many prostitutes do you know that get their male relatives involved in their activities?None, and I hope I never do! My point is it's best not to close the door in one of them's face and send her home with no money. [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) one of these girls off or try to not pay her and see how far that gets you! Sooner or later you will run into one of the girls that has her brother, cousin, Boyfriend or a guy friend that is involved in her business.

EL Mechanico.

[JustTK]

Haha, well different people like different things. IMO opinion Colombian food is one place above the worst I have ever eaten. Beaten only by Filipino food.


Yeah I don't get it when people say they don't like Colombian food, what's not to like? These dishes at Brasa Pan are all $3 to $5:

(and it's 24 HR, we'd leave FaseII and head right there at 2 am. Always more then you can eat too.

[Manizales911]

I use Schwab but you need to open a brokerage account to get the service last I checked.Correct but you do not have to do any trading whatsoever. I have two Schwab accounts, one I have had for 8 years and the other for 3 years and have made zero trades and have about 50 dollars in each. Where you can run into a problem is if you live in a foreign country and only use the debit card attached to your Schwab checking account for ATM transactions, now they are losing money on you and will close your account. You need to use the debit card for some purchases so they can make some money, I live in the DR pretty much full time but I order from Amazon and charge those purchases to the Schwab card and when I go back to the USA I make it a point to use the cards as much as possible and have had no problems.

[Manizales911]

If you do this be careful! Now they know which room you're in and at minimum which hotel or apartment you were in. They all have boyfriends and friends and brothers and cousins etc. Etc. Etc. It would be best to throw them 20 or 40 KCOP for taxi money if you're going to close the door in their face. Otherwise you will be a gringo in a foreign country pissing somebody off. And if you don't at least throw her taxi money she will have spent some of her money for nothing. Even though she lied to you she is out her taxi money. JMHO.

EL MECHANICO.Excellent advice sir.

[JjBee62]

I guess we will agree to disagree on that. I have never had bad service at any restaurant or any food I didn't think was great.

As to big butts, some girls certainly have them but I have had no problem finding petite either.Service at just about every restaurant in Colombia is terrible if you are expecting US service. In the US, within seconds of walking in the door, you'll be seated with menus in hand. A few seconds later someone will show up to take your drink order. Roughly 1 minute later they'll return to take your food order. Throughout your meal they will return every 3 to 5 minutes to ask how things are, see if you want anything else and generally keep you from really enjoying your meal. This is US standard excellent service. It has one purpose; get you out of the restaurant as quick as possible. If you're willing to buy overpriced desserts or drinks fine, but every minute you sit there without spending money is lost revenue.

In Colombia that type of service is unthinkable. To interrupt someone with a mouthful of food, or cut in on someone who's talking, just to ask them if they are enjoying the meal, is incredibly rude. Yes, it means you rarely have to wait long for a drink refill, but it also means you can't simply sit back and enjoy a meal.

Getting good service in Colombia is easy. Walk in. Sit down. Raise your hand to get the attention of the waiter. Whenever you need to get the waiter's attention, raise your hand. Repeat as necessary.

Never had any problem finding sweet and petite girls either. Big butts are not my thing at all. Only a few girls had butts that were big by my standard, which is probably normal by most people's standard.

[DramaFree11]

Guess we will agree to disagree on that. I have never had bad service at any restaurant or any food I didn't think was great.

As to big butts, some girls certainly have them but I have had no problem finding petite either.

Very hot, good job!

[Sangnyc21]

If you do this be careful! Now they know which room you're in and at minimum which hotel or apartment you were in. They all have boyfriends and friends and brothers and cousins etc. Etc. Etc. It would be best to throw them 20 or 40 KCOP for taxi money if you're going to close the door in their face. Otherwise you will be a gringo in a foreign country pissing somebody off. And if you don't at least throw her taxi money she will have spent some of her money for nothing. Even though she lied to you she is out her taxi money. JMHO.

EL MECHANICO.Absolutely agree. I feel like a lot of people don't realize Colombians are very prideful people. It's not like going to DR or Thailand. These people are not pushovers. If you [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the wrong person they have corrupt cops who will not take the side of a foreigner. They can easily put us in a no win situation.

[Mr Enternational]

Where you can run into a problem is if you live in a foreign country and only use the debit card attached to your Schwab checking account for ATM transactions, now they are losing money on you and will close your account.Not at all. I only use my Schwab debit card for overseas ATM withdrawals and have not had any problems all of these years. I also use my account to send out my bills. Anytime I make a purchase in the States or abroad I use my Amex Platinum so that I can accumulate points then I just pay that big bill when it is due.

[Eszpresszo]

None, and I hope I never do! My point is it's best not to close the door in one of them's face and send her home with no money.
EL Mechanico.And my point is that you are warning about a non-existent problem. This isn't Russia you're talking about. And the scenario you are painting is the product of an imagination gone unchecked. Any WG misrepresents their appearance is going to have to expect a lot of doors slammed in their face. Seriously, how many punters do you know who would go along with that nonsense?

[KingAmongKings]

Anybody know any good places for Texas Holdem in Medellin?

[Husker Dude]

Not at all. I only use my Schwab debit card for overseas ATM withdrawals and have not had any problems all of these years. I also use my account to send out my bills. Anytime I make a purchase in the States or abroad I use my Amex Platinum so that I can accumulate points then I just pay that big bill when it is due.I do the similar thing. I have $ in my Schwab checking & 0 in the brokerage act. & have used only the debit card for ATM withdrawals for years now, no problems. I then use a AAdvantage card for AA miles for purchases in the states.

[StripperMan]

Anyone for any massage rec's for non-sexual massages?

I have been researching and found someone with great reviews & excellent deep-tissue, trigger-point skills. Her name is Leidy Madonna, but the problem is she's traveling in Europe until January.


I have begun researching massage therapists in Medellin on Google & Tripadvisor. I have an idea of pricing & types of facilities available, but have not yet decided on a particular place or therapist.

Do any of you guys get therapeutic non-sexual massages in Medellin? If so, please give me your recommendation. I will be more than happy to let the therapist know your referred me if you like. I am looking for one of two things:

1) Trigger-point massage done by someone skilled in releasing tendons & ligaments.

2) Swedish massage massage done by someone so well you practically fall asleep.

Because of my bad back I get a lot of trigger-point massage here in the USA, and I am used to a strong massage that actually hurts for a few days after. I would love to find someone in Medellin who can do that. However, I would be more than happy with an excellent Swedish massage therapist as well.

Please provide name & location of therapist as well as contact info. I do not have to go to a fancy spa. I understand that many independent massage therapists work out of small shops or even their own homes.

[Black Page]

Buy far the best way to get money in Colombia is using ATM's. .Sure, in Colombia and in 99% of the world. Amazing that this topic has to be addressed again and again.

[Manizales911]

Not at all. I only use my Schwab debit card for overseas ATM withdrawals and have not had any problems all of these years. I also use my account to send out my bills. Anytime I make a purchase in the States or abroad I use my Amex Platinum so that I can accumulate points then I just pay that big bill when it is due.I personally know three expats that live in Colombia that have had their accounts closed for the reason I stated but whatever.

[IamLookin]

I am sure everyone here has experienced Colombian girlfriends asking you to send money for many reasons. I have been asked for the following: My kids need money for school, or need money so girl friend can pay for school or need money for rent or food or medicine for her or parents or grandparents or kids. Need money for an operation for her or a family member. But today I got a new one. Please send money my mother is in prison and I have no one to take care of my kids now? I am trying to find out why mom is in prison?

[JustTK]

Got to agree with you. And by paying off the girl for her fraud, you are contributing to the perpetuation of the problem.


And my point is that you are warning about a non-existent problem. This isn't Russia you're talking about. And the scenario you are painting is the product of an imagination gone unchecked. Any WG misrepresents their appearance is going to have to expect a lot of doors slammed in their face. Seriously, how many punters do you know who would go along with that nonsense?

[El Mechanico]

And my point is that you are warning about a non-existent problem. This isn't Russia you're talking about. And the scenario you are painting is the product of an imagination gone unchecked. Any WG misrepresents their appearance is going to have to expect a lot of doors slammed in their face. Seriously, how many punters do you know who would go along with that nonsense?Hopefully you are correct & I am wrong! Whomever is correct, doesn't really matter. The facts are I am a Gringo, in their barrio / city / country. They have a gazillion times more friends than I do down there & all they have to do is make up some BS story that even the cops would believe, then I would be in a world of grief. I am not trying to be a fear monger, just giving an idea of what could happen. I hope I am 100% wrong and that it never happens to anyone.

You do what you want to do, more power to you. I will continue to try to not [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) anyone off, even if she lied or put misleading pics up. There are other ways to expose her such as posting on here. Which I do everytime I feel a chica has lied or misled me.

Anyway, good luck and like I said, I hope no body has to feel the repercussion of a Paisa who has had a door shut in her face or is miffed about a wasted trip and taxi money, albeit her fault.

Happy Hunting to everyone.

El Mechanico.

[JustTK]

Does anyone know if the casas en Centro are open on festivos (public holidays)?

Thanks.

[Smoothy]

I am sure everyone here has experienced Colombian girlfriends asking you to send money for many reasons. I have been asked for the following: My kids need money for school, or need money so girl friend can pay for school or need money for rent or food or medicine for her or parents or grandparents or kids. Need money for an operation for her or a family member. But today I got a new one. Please send money my mother is in prison and I have no one to take care of my kids now? I am trying to find out why mom is in prison?I used to think it was foolish to send money to these girls. However, about 10 years ago when I was living in Indonesia, a girl sent me a text asking me for money for an operation. I wasn't in country at the time and hadn't seen her in a while so I just disregarded it. When I returned a couple of months later, I found out she had died. I now think it's "normally" foolish, but there are occasions where it's justified.

[Wolf662]

None, and I hope I never do! My point is it's best not to close the door in one of them's face and send her home with no money..........(make mad) one of these girls off or try to not pay her and see how far that gets you! Sooner or later you will run into one of the girls that has her brother, cousin, Boyfriend or a guy friend that is involved in her business.

EL Mechanico.She may not need a guys help, US citizen was stabbed to death in Medellin last year in his hotel by a woman he took to his room.

[Big Boss Man]

I personally know three expats that live in Colombia that have had their accounts closed for the reason I stated but whatever.What's wrong with actually using Schwab's brokerage? I have been with them for a few years now and haven't had any problems. Am I missing something? I moved to them when I found out about the ATM reimbursement and no foreign exchange fees.

I googled it out of curiosity. It costs them about $600 to gain a new customer. So ATM fee forgiveness might just be a promotion to attract customers. Maybe people who travel have the characteristics that Schwab seeks in their customers. One guy read the 10-K report and found that they have 10 million customers with 2. 7 trillion in assets. So the average customer has $270 k in their account.

[Jayson01]

I recommend finding a debit card that has no foreign currency exchange fee and forgives the ATM transaction cost. I use Schwab but you need to open a brokerage account to get the service last I checked.I use credit card not big on loan but might look into debits cards now if I can find one offers reimbursement from Scandinavia. But usually when fees are high I take extra couple of dollars that keeps running a couple of days.


Buy far the best way to get money in Colombia is using ATM's. They will give you the best exchange rate on average and if you use a debit card from fidelity or Charles Schwab they will reimburse your ATM fees. For purchase use a credit card with no foreign transaction fee or cash.

Wiring money with Xoom or Western Union is a bad idea because of the fees and the an exchange rate that is not as good at you get at ATMs.That makes sense thanks for the feedback, I just thinking about the safety when withdrawing from an ATM. Also I have a visa credit card from a European bank so I expect some fees depending on my bank.

[Jayson01]

I meant debit card where I said credit card. And credit where I said debit.

[GreenBud]

Anybody know any good places for Texas Holdem in Medellin?Casino Rio. Monday thru Friday. No games on the weekend.

It seems they have 2 games. One is 5-10 COP no limit. That is a good game. People call all ins with draws. I got very unlucky there the last 2 times. Lost huge pots to flushes. Other game is either 1-3 or 2-5 no limit.

I could only find 1 poker room in Medellin. Please report back if you find another one.

[Mr Enternational]

I used to think it was foolish to send money to these girls. However, about 10 years ago when I was living in Indonesia, a girl sent me a text asking me for money for an operation. I wasn't in country at the time and hadn't seen her in a while so I just disregarded it. When I returned a couple of months later, I found out she had died. I now think it's "normally" foolish, but there are occasions where it's justified.It is foolish because that is not your responsibility. Why go broke in a quest to figure out which occasions it may be justified for? Chick asks you for money for a new roof. You don't give it. It rains in the house and she catches pneumonia and dies. Chick asks you for taxi money. You don't give it. She runs across the street to catch the bus and gets hit by a car and dies.

Two things people will always need are air and money. When you turn that faucet on, it may not be so easy to turn off. Just say no from the beginning and leave it at that. If someone stops dealing with you because you will not send them money, that may be a person you may not want to be dealing with in the first place. The girl you knew had tons of family, friends, neighbors, classmates, coworkers, government officials, etc. But YOUR money was the only thing that could save her?

[Wolf662]

Casino Rio. Monday thru Friday. No games on the weekend.

It seems they have 2 games. One is 5-10 COP no limit. That is a good game. People call all ins with draws. I got very unlucky there the last 2 times. Lost huge pots to flushes. Other game is either 1-3 or 2-5 no limit.

I could only find 1 poker room in Medellin. Please report back if you find another one.This one?

Casino Rio.

Cra. 43 #43-79, Medellin.

[Manizales911]

What's wrong with actually using Schwab's brokerage? .Nothing at all and when I was active in the stock market I used Schwab all the time. I am no longer in the market, I'm too busy enjoying my twilight years to be bothered to do the research required to be a good stock investor.

[JjBee62]

Casino Rio. Monday thru Friday. No games on the weekend.

It seems they have 2 games. One is 5-10 COP no limit. That is a good game. People call all ins with draws. I got very unlucky there the last 2 times. Lost huge pots to flushes. Other game is either 1-3 or 2-5 no limit.

I could only find 1 poker room in Medellin. Please report back if you find another one.What's the casino across from San Diego mall? They have a poker tournament on Sunday. Can't remember what time it starts.

[PaisaPorFavor]

They also have daily tournaments. Some days have 2.


Casino Rio. Monday thru Friday. No games on the weekend.

It seems they have 2 games. One is 5-10 COP no limit. That is a good game. People call all ins with draws. I got very unlucky there the last 2 times. Lost huge pots to flushes. Other game is either 1-3 or 2-5 no limit.

I could only find 1 poker room in Medellin. Please report back if you find another one..

[MedellinGringo]

She may not need a guys help, US citizen was stabbed to death in Medellin last year in his hotel by a woman he took to his room.The chick the gringo let in to his apartment. Drugged him. And then the chick let another guy into the apartment.

The gringo woke up and started fighting with the guy this chick let into his place. And she got a knife from the kitchen and stabbed the gringo in the back.

[JSmith49]

I appreciate all the information your guys have given me it has been very helpful. I see people mentioning pipelining in these forums and I'm just curious as to what that means.

[Hitman206]

What's wrong with actually using Schwab's brokerage? I have been with them for a few years now and haven't had any problems. Am I missing something? I moved to them when I found out about the ATM reimbursement and no foreign exchange fees.

I googled it out of curiosity. It costs them about $600 to gain a new customer. So ATM fee forgiveness might just be a promotion to attract customers. Maybe people who travel have the characteristics that Schwab seeks in their customers. One guy read the 10-K report and found that they have 10 million customers with 2. 7 trillion in assets. So the average customer has $270 k in their account.Fidelity does the same thing.

[JjBee62]

She may not need a guys help, US citizen was stabbed to death in Medellin last year in his hotel by a woman he took to his room.Another minor correction, it was an apartment, with no security and not a hotel.

[Nordico]

I use credit card not big on loan but might look into debits cards now if I can find one offers reimbursement from Scandinavia. But usually when fees are high I take extra couple of dollars that keeps running a couple of days.

That makes sense thanks for the feedback, I just thinking about the safety when withdrawing from an ATM. Also I have a visa credit card from a European bank so I expect some fees depending on my bank.Check out Bank Norwegian CC. No need to open bank account and at least where I'm living they have the lowest fees; no yearly fee, no fee for ATM withdrawals abroad and free travel insurance if you buy your ticket with their card etc.

[IamLookin]

I find it interesting that the girls will provide a session for 150 k yet when they meet or know you, you become their only source of income? I have many FB contacts and the majority of them have asked for money. One after I got to know her told me it is always good to try to see if they can get money It can't hurt to try.


It is foolish because that is not your responsibility. Why go broke in a quest to figure out which occasions it may be justified for? Chick asks you for money for a new roof. You don't give it. It rains in the house and she catches pneumonia and dies. Chick asks you for taxi money. You don't give it. She runs across the street to catch the bus and gets hit by a car and dies.

Two things people will always need are air and money. When you turn that faucet on, it may not be so easy to turn off. Just say no from the beginning and leave it at that. If someone stops dealing with you because you will not send them money, that may be a person you may not want to be dealing with in the first place. The girl you knew had tons of family, friends, neighbors, classmates, coworkers, government officials, etc. But YOUR money was the only thing that could save her?.

[Fun Luvr]

The chick the gringo let in to his apartment. Drugged him. And then the chick let another guy into the apartment.

The gringo woke up and started fighting with the guy this chick let into his place. And she got a knife from the kitchen and stabbed the gringo in the back.That was in Poblado. I think there was one in Laureles that maybe the chica did it alone.

[JustTK]

The answer is, yes they are!


Does anyone know if the casas en Centro are open on festivos (public holidays)?

[Knowledge]

It's sort of like public transport, they operate on a holiday schedule, generally the same hours as Sundays.


The answer is, yes they are!

[Knowledge]

That is a very important distinction. That sort of thing doesn't happen nearly as often in hotels because of the security and front desk people who are on the lookout for it. The trade off of course is you can't bring in whoever and how many you want. Everything has its pluses and minuses. Be informed and decide for yourselves.


Another minor correction, it was an apartment, with no security and not a hotel.

[Smoothy]

The girl you knew had tons of family, friends, neighbors, classmates, coworkers, government officials, etc. But YOUR money was the only thing that could save her?This was not a party girl or hooker earning decent money. This girl did not have tons of family, friends, neighbors, classmates, coworkers, government officials, etc. (Hell, I don't have that either. I have a few good friends and a few relatives.) This was a non pro who earned about 200 to 300 usd a month as a maid. Her few good friends and family were dirt poor. For them to gather up 2 grand for that operation on short notice would be close to impossible.

The bottom line is that she is now dead and if I had given her the money, she would very likely be alive today.

Again, I agree that money should almost never be given to these girls because they are mostly full of BS. But there are exceptions.

[TheCarlAnthony]

Not attacking you in any way bro. I just want to understand better.

How did you meet her? I mean if she had a regular maid income, are you saying she was a prostitute only in emergency situations? I wouldn't place that kind of guilt on yourself bro. You could have sent her money but who knows if she even would have gone to the hospital with it. At the end of the day its safe to assume she was using old every day money sucking techniques. I get that she died and that sucks.

But its not something you could have with 100% certainty stopped. She was a working girl bro, sad that she died, but you don't know her full intentions. Again, she didn't ask you to call the hospital and pay a medical bill. She wanted cold hard untraceable cash. You always have to assume the worst with these women. Protect yourself at all times!


This was not a party girl or hooker earning decent money. This girl did not have tons of family, friends, neighbors, classmates, coworkers, government officials, etc. (Hell, I don't have that either. I have a few good friends and a few relatives.) This was a non pro who earned about 200 to 300 usd a month as a maid. Her few good friends and family were dirt poor. For them to gather up 2 grand for that operation on short notice would be close to impossible.

The bottom line is that she is now dead and if I had given her the money, she would very likely be alive today.

Again, I agree that money should almost never be given to these girls because they are mostly full of BS. But there are exceptions.

[JustTK]

On top of that, millions of people die every day around the world. If you were going to pay for an operation for every one that you know, you would very soon be asking people for money urself! Its sad but that's life. Unless its someone with whom you have a permanent / long term relationship with, I wouldn't even consider it.


How did you meet her? I mean if she had a regular maid income, are you saying she was a prostitute only in emergency situations? I wouldn't place that kind of guilt on yourself bro. You could have sent her money but who knows if she even would have gone to the hospital with it. At the end of the day its safe to assume she was using old every day money sucking techniques. I get that she died and that sucks.

But its not something you could have with 100% certainty stopped. She was a working girl bro, sad that she died, but you don't know her full intentions. Again, she didn't ask you to call the hospital and pay a medical bill. She wanted cold hard untraceable cash. You always have to assume the worst with these women. Protect yourself at all times!

[Chicafan]

Unless its someone with whom you have a permanent / long term relationship with, I wouldn't even consider it.I am not sure what you are saying so I am curious. If you were there and knew $1000.00 or so would save a friend's life you would not afford it unless you were in a committed relationship? I'm asking as if you actually visited the hospital and the physicians / surgeons discussed at length the condition and procedure.

[JustTK]

You misunderstand me. I didn't say "committed relationship". "Committed" in itself demonstrates commitment, then there would be no question. I said "permanent / long term relationship", and by that I mean family and good friends and partners.


I am not sure what you are saying so I am curious. If you were there and knew $1000.00 or so would save a friend's life you would not afford it unless you were in a committed relationship? I'm asking as if you actually visited the hospital and the physicians / surgeons discussed at length the condition and procedure.

[Mr Enternational]

You misunderstand me. I didn't say "committed relationship". "Committed" in itself demonstrates commitment, then there would be no question. I said "permanent / long term relationship", and by that I mean family and good friends and partners.Exactly. The first question that you should ask before you go giving money is would that person do the same for you. In most cases the answer is no. I have heard friends say that they give chicks money or help them out or whatever and when their birthday or Christmas comes they don't so much as receive a card from the girl. Like I said before, out of alllll the people this person has met in her lifetime, it all boils down that only you and your money can help them? So if they didn't know you, their fate would have been sealed anyway. I don't buy into that kind of BS.

I am not one to be afraid of losing out on some pussy and I am not one to give someone money because I feel guilty for fucking them. If I am going to give out money to someone that is not a hooker, then I have to receive collateral. Had a chick ask me the other day for some money because her kid is going back to school. I said you need to ask that kid's dad for that. She said something to the effect that he is a deadbeat. I said well next time you decide to have a child you need to choose the father wisely. You can not expect someone else to shoulder the burden of you and some other guy's responsibility.

I tell them that the reason I only had 1 kid is because I did not want to take care of any more! And I am definitely not paying a grown person's way through life. I have friends and family (like JustTK said, permanent long-term relationships) of my own that will be the ones I help out if anyone. Not just some chick I fucked a few times.

[Combo]

An experience I had very early in my mongering career convinced me to never send girls money. I was boning a prepago in Rio for nothing other than cheap food and drinks (I was still young and good-looking). She was letting me stay with her in her apartment and even introduced me to friends for threesomes. One night she gets out her laptop and starts showing me correspondence from guys that were sending her money. She laughed and referred to them as "losers. ".

Since that experience, if a girl begs me for money, I immediately cut off contact with her. I don't care how old and ugly I may grow. I'm not going to send money to someone who (as Mr E pointed out) doesn't give a crap about me. If you're talking a long-term friend with whom there is a mutually caring relationship (not necessarily sexual or romantic), that's a different thing. But that type of relationship is extremely unlikely with a chick in a foreign country that you've slept with a few times.

I pay the girls a decent rate. I treat them nicely, sometimes even going out for drinks / dancing / food. But IMO there's a line that shouldn't be crossed in this hobby.

[Mr Enternational]

An experience I had very early in my mongering career convinced me to never send girls money. I was boning a prepago in Rio for nothing other than cheap food and drinks (I was still young and good-looking). She was letting me stay with her in her apartment and even introduced me to friends for threesomes. One night she gets out her laptop and starts showing me correspondence from guys that were sending her money. She laughed and referred to them as "losers. "I don't know if you knew Lebarra, but she took one of my main wingmen (he also lived in Rio) to her house in Petropolis one day. There in the house some guy had just bought a new dinette set for them. From the top of the China cabinet her mom pulls a stack of Western Union slips and referring to my friend, asked her if he knew how to fill these out.

Several years later, the same chick sent out a mass email asking about money for whatever the excuse was, but instead of BCC she did normal CC by mistake. I had several friends that received that same email. Remember all of this was before the days of whatsapp and widespread cell phone ownership / use, which allows them to be even more personal and heart wrenching with the requests these days.

[Queens35]

An experience I had very early in my mongering career convinced me to never send girls money. I was boning a prepago in Rio for nothing other than cheap food and drinks (I was still young and good-looking). She was letting me stay with her in her apartment and even introduced me to friends for threesomes. One night she gets out her laptop and starts showing me correspondence from guys that were sending her money. She laughed and referred to them as "losers. ".

Since that experience, if a girl begs me for money, I immediately cut off contact with her. I don't care how old and ugly I may grow. I'm not going to send money to someone who (as Mr E pointed out) doesn't give a crap about me. If you're talking a long-term friend with whom there is a mutually caring relationship (not necessarily sexual or romantic), that's a different thing. But that type of relationship is extremely unlikely with a chick in a foreign country that you've slept with a few times.

I pay the girls a decent rate. I treat them nicely, sometimes even going out for drinks / dancing / food. But IMO there's a line that shouldn't be crossed in this hobby.Agreed completely.

[Talon]

An experience I had very early in my mongering career convinced me to never send girls money. I was boning a prepago in Rio for nothing other than cheap food and drinks (I was still young and good-looking). She was letting me stay with her in her apartment and even introduced me to friends for threesomes. One night she gets out her laptop and starts showing me correspondence from guys that were sending her money. She laughed and referred to them as "losers. ".

Since that experience, if a girl begs me for money, I immediately cut off contact with her. I don't care how old and ugly I may grow. I'm not going to send money to someone who (as Mr E pointed out) doesn't give a crap about me. If you're talking a long-term friend with whom there is a mutually caring relationship (not necessarily sexual or romantic), that's a different thing. But that type of relationship is extremely unlikely with a chick in a foreign country that you've slept with a few times.

I pay the girls a decent rate. I treat them nicely, sometimes even going out for drinks / dancing / food. But IMO there's a line that shouldn't be crossed in this hobby.I've gotten a few I'm out of work/My children need food/My stuff was stolen sob stories from a few of my regulars over the past year, begging me to send them some pesos. I always tell them no, I only give money in person. They've all been smart enough to realize I'm not some gullible gringo and have immediately desisted, not wanting to ruin a good thing.

Don't kid yourself into believing you've developed a deep emotional bond with a barrio girl half your age. To most of these chicas you're nothing more than a meal ticket and a temporary source of income. If they can trick you once into giving them money "to replace a stolen phone" I guarantee you her financial woes will never end--next she'll need money for her sick grandmother, to replace a leaky roof, to pay off a corrupt cop, etc. Better to nip that behavior right in the bud before it escalates.

I did have one girl who skipped the sob story and said she needed 30 k pesos to go to the spa. While I applaud her honesty I didn't give her any money either.

[Turgid]

I've gotten a few I'm out of work/My children need food/My stuff was stolen sob stories from a few of my regulars over the past year, begging me to send them some pesos. I always tell them no, I only give money in person. They've all been smart enough to realize I'm not some gullible gringo and have immediately desisted, not wanting to ruin a good thing.

Don't kid yourself into believing you've developed a deep emotional bond with a barrio girl half your age. To most of these chicas you're nothing more than a meal ticket and a temporary source of income. If they can trick you once into giving them money "to replace a stolen phone" I guarantee you her financial woes will never end--next she'll need money for her sick grandmother, to replace a leaky roof, to pay off a corrupt cop, etc. Better to nip that behavior right in the bud before it escalates.

I did have one girl who skipped the sob story and said she needed 30 k pesos to go to the spa. While I applaud her honesty I didn't give her any money either.Some years ago I was outside my hotel in Poblado and this American dude asked me for money, he said his apartment was broken into and all his stuff was stolen, he was wiped out. I was skeptical but then he asked for money to buy something to eat so I offered to buy food for him. We were close to a supermarket and I told him I would buy some bread and milk for him and he said no and was directing me to an upscale restaurant. I left his ass.

A few days ago I was at the main train station in Frankfurt and an emaciated young East European woman asked me for money and I shook my head, she walked off and I noticed she was bare foot and in tattered clothes. I then glanced not too far from me a sandwich shop but when I looked for her she was out of sight, I ran looking for her but could not find her and felt rather guilty.

The moral is I think we should choose our beneficiaries wisely.

[Sangnyc21]

Isn't the whole point of mongering to pay them to leave?? I mean whether it's an hour or a tln or even a week you pay her for the time you spent with her and payment means it's a done deal. Once you develop feelings other than wanting to just fuck her I don't think it becomes mongering anymore.