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JjBee62
09-23-18, 15:04
Holy crap, guys hate on this place so much it's starting to make me curious. It's like a bad road accident you don't want to see but can't help slowing down to take a look.Have you ever been to an Asian Massage Parlor in. Let's use Indianapolis? The young one is 40 and below average in looks. You don't want to know about the old ones. That's not what Secret Spa is like, but compared to what's available in Medellin, it's what it feels like.

Walked in once after a complete knockout handed me a card on La 70.4 girls, all chubby, none of them particularly attractive. Not ugly, just US average, which is well below Medellin average. 1 of them I probably would have taken, if I was really horny and the price was under 80 k.

JjBee62
09-23-18, 15:31
What's with the sarcasm? LOL.University girl hookers are mostly a myth. Especially in Colombia. Especially walking the streets in Colombia.

There are girls going to university who get into prostitution. Usually with an escort agency, or through a friend who's working through ads, Facebook or another online method. But after a few months they either decide it's not for them, or they do the math. A newly degreed professional in Colombia is lucky to earn 2 million COP per month. A prepago working Facebook, etc. Can earn that in a week. After a few weeks university is no longer part of the plan.

So, there's no "Calle de la Universidad", I almost choked when I read that, and there's no street where you're going to find a bunch of innocent university student streetwalkers.

You can find plenty on Facebook who are attending some sort of trade school, usually for 150-200 k. I've got a few student cosmetologists and a student nurse in my list. You can find girls who claim to be students on Tinder and Seeking Arrangements. Some may actually be students.

SavePros321
09-24-18, 00:33
University girl hookers are mostly a myth. Especially in Colombia. Especially walking the streets in Colombia.

There are girls going to university who get into prostitution. Usually with an escort agency, or through a friend who's working through ads, Facebook or another online method. But after a few months they either decide it's not for them, or they do the math. A newly degreed professional in Colombia is lucky to earn 2 million COP per month. A prepago working Facebook, etc. Can earn that in a week. After a few weeks university is no longer part of the plan.

So, there's no "Calle de la Universidad", I almost choked when I read that, and there's no street where you're going to find a bunch of innocent university student streetwalkers.

You can find plenty on Facebook who are attending some sort of trade school, usually for 150-200 k. I've got a few student cosmetologists and a student nurse in my list. You can find girls who claim to be students on Tinder and Seeking Arrangements. Some may actually be students.Met a chica that was a periodista for a small local news channel and was a University student. Was actually only able to meet her because a chica I had been seeing for years told her I was "good to go" when she inquired about me (a good rep goes a long way in this game).

She told me she had to be at school on a Saturday morning for an exam, but could still come for TLN as long as she woke up on time.

Well, we ended up getting super-wasted and I forgot to set an alarm, LOL. She woke and was like "damn", but we laughed about it. She wasn't really concerned about missing the exam because she made more in one night than any career she is going for would ever pay her. And there's nothing wrong with that!

Some chicas take school seriously and end up getting careers (and will still see you after work or on a a day off). Others use it as a front for their p r e p a g o side hustle, or just to get out of the house from boredom if their side hustle makes them so much money that they don't have to work a normal job.

SavePros321
09-24-18, 00:44
You can find plenty on Facebook who are attending some sort of trade school, usually for 150-200 k. I've got a few student cosmetologists and a student nurse in my list. You can find girls who claim to be students on Tinder and Seeking Arrangements. Some may actually be students.Are any of you concerned about the info shared on SA? I've used it on the US side and it shows prospective sugar babies your income and net worth ranges.

I'd be hesitant to have that kind of info shared in a place like Medellin. I think you run the risk of becoming a bigger target.

Combo
09-24-18, 03:16
Are any of you concerned about the info shared on SA? I've used it on the US side and it shows prospective sugar babies your income and net worth ranges.

I'd be hesitant to have that kind of info shared in a place like Medellin. I think you run the risk of becoming a bigger target.You're absolutely right. Never a good idea to flaunt your wealth in a country like Colombia.

Lowkey1
09-24-18, 04:08
Just blows my mind when people get stuck up over 30 k COP rather it be for a tip, BBBJ, or just price the girl charges. In my opinion at some point we have to be more realistic about mongering in a different country. Bro. You're about to fuck a beautiful woman! Why would you even consider ruining a potential great experience over $10.10 measly dollars? Your out of your country, she's smoking hot, you have a connection with her obviously because your choosing her over the extremely high numbers of available women. So stop being so tight was that you pass up on her over 10 american dollars. You would pay that to get a cheeseburger meal in the states and not bat an eye. Your fucking getting a girl to suck you without a condom! Big difference here. In my experience the biggest reason and "not always" but usually the reason womenarent good in bed is because quite frankly "She doesn't want to be there with you". Rather she's not attracted to you or she has other things on her mind and wants to make her money and get the heck out so she can pay that internet bill at home. Regardless I've experience that when money negotiations happen the walls go up. When you start haggling the price, in her head she's frustrated. On the surface she's smiling and engaged in the bidding war, but the more the price goes down, the more her desire goes down. Now she's definately going to take the lower price at some point but now you just became the guy that she has very little if any desire to fuck. She now has that stimulation to just hurry this along. Usually if you get a dead fish prostitute, there us a reason. She's a dead fish to you but a pornstar to someone else that she "Wants to fuck". This just my opinion and everyone has their own experiences so this is subjective. My method is this: have a set price on what I'm willing to spend on a girl. No more than xxx.xxx COP. Rather I'm in a strip club or wherever. I find the girl that makes my eyes big. I look at her body, smile, attitude, aggressiveness. If she comes off like a sexual tiger and has all the things I'm looking for, my mental price point adjust. We speak and it seems like she's ready to fuck me also. We now have a sexual connection. Perfect. She gives a price let's say 250.000 COP. Now here's the problem my price point is 150 k. That's 100.000 more than my price point. Sounds horrible until you think about it. Wait. That's $35. She is in her head thinking please say yes please say yes hahahahhah. My response is usually I would never pay that price but for a girl as attractive as you are, I will but just this once. Bro if she is that hot do not freaking ruin the vibe by trying to negotiate down to 200.000 k. Why?? Because as I said. Its $35 freaking dollars. As soon as you go lower, she exhales just a little bit. That exhale is mist of sexual performance leaving her body. She now is in negotiation mode and for every dollar you take away the less she wants to be there. Yes you can save $15 by getting her down to 200 k and closer to your 150 k price point but it's the mental motivation that you are sacrificing here! Now let me clear one thing up before you crop my post and reply to one sentence just to rebuttle my thought process. This applies only to the chicka you really want to bang. This isn't the concept you use for that 6 in the massage parlor but can be applied there also with similar affect. I am not telling you not to ever negotiate, because some of these women can give you an outrageous price expecting a negotiation but only you can determine rather its outrageous or not. Come to Columbia thinking I'm going to expect to spend xxx / girl. Set you maximum price per girl. If you see one close to your dream girl and you let $35 ruin the mental sexual connection for you two that's your own damn fault. Why are you even overseas without $35 to spare?! There's always that chick that is going to be a dead fish no matter what she's getting paid. That's because "She doesn't want to have sex with you " so it's out of your control. Just hear her price, if it is in you range and you want to bang her, screw the exhausting haggle crap. Save that for the girls you could care less if you bang. We are here in this country for 3 things. Beautiful women, experiences, and memories. If her price is too high and you can't / don't want to spend it. This moment determines a lot. I usually say OK let me get your number and I'll whattsapp you tonight or tomorrow. She's now on my back burner. I keep moving until I find the perfect situation price and beauty with minimal haggle if any. When you say YES to their price without being that guy, it seems like the sexual experience is "usually" better and that's what you are here for. That's what you will remember 5 years from now. Most of all Spoil yourself! Your on vacation!! Fuck $35!This is exactly how I think. Just ask the price, I never negotiate. If its worth it, pay it. Soon as you start to haggle it ruins it and they loose interest. You are cheap with your money they are cheap with their effort. I do not find a lot of people with this point of view. But I do agree with the one guy who said if she is a dead fish at 200 she will also be a deadfish at 250. Yes, not all girls are rock stars, so you will have bad ones, but if you grind every little penny down with them no one will want to deal with you. That extra 30-40 bucks you give will be the highlight and big deal to her. Makes the world of difference. So if the initial price is a no go just move on. With that being said, try to tell someone this philosophy at the MANSION and those old cheap trolls that go there will loose there mind and say you are ruining it for everyone. Well I was at the mansion recently and the moral of the building is low, the girls are burned out with the cheap old men. Not like it was 10 years ago. Depends on the crowd there, buy some food and drinks, spread the joy and that place is amazing. Squabble your extra $5 USA and don't buy drinks and it sucks. If you are going to be cheap go get a budget hotel and bang the 20,000 COP girls at the cheap gross casas. Bring a little extra money, throw it around, buy some drinks, dance, laugh and your money will buy you a lot more than a quick nut.

Mr Enternational
09-24-18, 05:27
With that being said, try to tell someone this philosophy at the MANSION and those old cheap trolls that go there will loose there mind and say you are ruining it for everyone. Well I was at the mansion recently and the moral of the building is low, the girls are burned out with the cheap old men.So the girls at the Mansion are under contract or something and are forced to go there? I would expect the morals of the building to be low seeing that it is a fuckshop.

Mr Enternational
09-24-18, 05:35
Just blows my mind when people get stuck up over 30 k COP rather it be for a tip, BBBJ, or just price the girl charges. In my opinion at some point we have to be more realistic about mongering in a different country. Bro. You're about to fuck a beautiful woman! Why would you even consider ruining a potential great experience over $10.10 measly dollars? Your out of your country, she's smoking hot, you have a connection with her obviously because your choosing her over the extremely high numbers of available women.So why would she ruin the connection you two have together over 10 measly dollars? Maybe not paying the 10 measly dollars more is helping you avoid a train wreck.

Sho423
09-24-18, 05:46
So now that I am safely home I will write a detailed trip report. This will not be a day by day report but more of a summary of what I learned in terms of mongering and just living in Medellin. Also I was only in Medellin for 4 days and am a complete newbie when it comes to this scene, so some of my information may be incorrect. I also don't speak a lick of spanish.

First let's get the logistics and non mongering issues out of the way. I landed at the airport at 11:30 pm, at this time there were plenty of taxis to take you back to the city. The cost of a taxi in to the city is around 70 mil. My airbnb host said they could send me a driver for the same amount of money, which I accepted. If you don't have COP on you when you arrive there are ATMs right next to the exit of the airport. The drive into Medellin from the airport is 45-50 minutes long. The airbnb I stayed at was the San Peter Apartments in Laureles for $29 a night. They are nice, clean one bedroom apartments. The only issue I had with them was that their wifi was terrible and the blankets they provide are quite small. They are girl friendly with no fee. A girl could even spend the night with you if you wanted at no extra charge. They just need her cedula. I recommend booking through airbnb rather than book.com as it is $10 cheaper and gives you direct contact with the host. Be warned that if you are a light sleeper they have music on at the bar downstairs until late at night, did not bother me though.

Now for money ATMs are the best way to get your money. They have the best exchange rate, much better than converting at an exchange. If you can find an divienda ATM use that as there is no ATM fee. Bancolombia ATMs have a 13200 COP fee. If you must exchange the one I went to was in the Unicentro Mall called Money Max, they had the best rates at 2755 per dollar, just remember to bring your passport.



I usually do currency exchange with my bank before I go to Colombia but this time I decided to just bring a like 1 k worth and use atms instead. My bank would give me a rate of about 2800.

I found an ATM at Oviedo mall that gave me 2880, I was happy because I had went to another ATM and I got 2780. Also I didn't get charged any fees when I used BanColombia atms.

Knowing Spanish definitely changes the experience with the girls. When I first went to Medellin I didn't know a lick of Spanish and there were a lot of awkward moments but now since I have been learning its a lot more fun being able to communicate for a better experience.

JamesPearle
09-24-18, 11:00
You should have at least gotten your money back to discourage it from pulling that stunt on someone else.


VeraCruz spinner up to a room there and she turned out to have the wrong chromosomes, I didn't ask for my 30 k back, I just said never mind and left, not worth causing a scene over $10 amd maybe getting stabbed or beat up over it.

JjBee62
09-24-18, 12:45
So why would she ruin the connection you two have together over 10 measly dollars? Maybe not paying the 10 measly dollars more is helping you avoid a train wreck.Why? Because $10 is 30 eggs, 5# of rice and 5# of beans.

I'm not one to spend any time bartering. If the price offered is outside my range, I'll just offer a no gracias and a smile. If you keep the little head out of the process it's a buyer's market. However, if I'm going for a certain experience, then a difference of 30 k isn't going to deter me. If she sets a time limit, then I'll walk, because I can always get an extra 30 k worth if we're not watching the clock.

GreenBud
09-24-18, 18:46
I found an ATM at Oviedo mall that gave me 2880, I was happy because I had went to another ATM and I got 2780. Also I didn't get charged any fees when I used BanColombia atms.Ignore if you don't care about a few pesos.

- All ATMs will give out virtually the same exchange rate; virtually same as the Visa rates. If you discount for all the fees (fees that you can recover), you virtually cannot beat the exchange rate anywhere. Last week, I got around 3079. Yesterday, it just went below 3000.

- When you calculate the exchange rate, you need to factor in your bank fees (if any), foreign transaction fees (if any), and the foreign ATM machine charges. As written numerous times, you can get a good ATM (such as Schwab Bank), and they will not charge you any fees and they will also refund the foreign ATM fees, which can add up to a lot.

- I believe the Banco Colombia ATM charges you the 13200 fee. On some ATMs, they ask you if you want to see additional financial details. If you press no, then they don't show the ATM fee.


Why would you even consider ruining a potential great experience over $10.10 measly dollars?Because you can get the same experience next block over for 30 K COP less.

But if you're a 2 week millionaire, then ya, go for it.


Just ask the price, I never negotiate. If its worth it, pay it. Soon as you start to haggle it ruins it and they loose interest. You are cheap with your money they are cheap with their effort.I kind of used to do that. But I've recently been negotiating more.

From my experiences, when you negotiate a fair price, the girls are not "cheap" with their effort. I don't find a difference. But note I'm not into GFE type of stuff as a lot of guys here are. As long as the girls suck and lick on command, then I am happy.

GreenBud
09-24-18, 18:59
You should have at least gotten your money back to discourage it from pulling that stunt on someone else.And how would you do that? If he asked, I doubt it would have given the money back. There's no "manager" at the short time motel to force it to give the money back. Any other options, besides the physical one?

This similar type of stuff happens to everyone. I negotiate BBBJ, or some other stuff. In the room, she says no. I leave. I try not to get mad; if my old days, I would get pissed and it would ruin my day. It is a "cost of doing business".

If you negotiate a higher price with extras, it is better to offer the standard rate with a tip, instead of 1 set fee. Then if she reneges in the room, you are only out of the standard rate, instead of everything.

Mr Enternational
09-24-18, 20:49
I kind of used to do that. But I've recently been negotiating more.

From my experiences, when you negotiate a fair price, the girls are not "cheap" with their effort. I don't find a difference. But note I'm not into GFE type of stuff as a lot of guys here are. As long as the girls suck and lick on command, then I am happy.I have been through a couple thousand paid chicks. If it is not a place with a set price then I always negotiate and I don't normally give tips. The only time it seemed that a chick was not trying is from some of the street girls in Tijuana and a chick at the $6 spot on Calle 18 in Guayaquil.

To me it is riduliculous to assume things are not going to go right because you negotiated. I would like for some guys to give examples of the times they negotiated and things went bad, or is this just an assumption that is being made? Because in my experience it just does not happen that way.

RacShack
09-24-18, 23:08
You should have at least gotten your money back to discourage it from pulling that stunt on someone else.What happened to rule #1 never, never, pay a hooker upfront?

GreenBud
09-25-18, 00:55
What happened to rule #1 never, never, pay a hooker upfront?That's a smart rule.

But at Medellin's Vera Cruz, it seems the standard is that you pay upfront.

StripperMan
09-25-18, 01:08
That's a smart rule.

But at Medellin's Vera Cruz, it seems the standard is that you pay upfront.Never paying up front is a great rule, and one I always follow.

Just like with Vera Cruz, the big bars like Fiebre, etc in the Santa Fe district of Bogota require that you pay up front as well.

Knowledge
09-25-18, 01:39
You have to pay for the room upfront, not the girl. If an individual provider insists on upfront payment, my advice is to find another. Anyone who does otherwise should be prepared to take their lumps before moving on. I prefer to just move on and leave the lumps for others.


That's a smart rule.

But at Medellin's Vera Cruz, it seems the standard is that you pay upfront.

Quagmire1974
09-25-18, 01:59
What happened to rule #1 never, never, pay a hooker upfront?Respectfully, having mongered in multiple countries (read my reports), I can assure you that rule doesn't apply to every country in the world. Yeah, you can get away with that in Sosua in the Dominican Republic, but good luck trying to get away with that in Tokyo or Sint Maarten or El Salvador.

The most important thing you can do with a WG is negotiate and make sure you know what you are getting before any money exchanges hands. Don't assume you're going to get MSOG. Don't assume you're going to be able to DATY. Don't assume you're going to get BBBJCIM. Ask questions and make sure the terms of the session are clear before you pay. If your prospective WG gets skittish and hesitates to answer your questions, move on to the next WG. She's skittish and hesitant because you're showing you have negotiating skills and she's used to pulling a con job on a client in the bedroom who didn't ask questions about services and whose money was taken and quickly stuffed deep into her purse even before she got naked.

So, there's nothing wrong with paying a WG upfront if you've set the terms of the session and know what you're getting before you're balls deep in the pussy.

TheCarlAnthony
09-25-18, 06:13
Well said! I knew when I misspelled Colombia and people got butt hurt that I was dealing with a different group here.

"Some" in here need to lighten up and just enjoy the fruits. No one has written the ISG Approved procedures on this fun mongering life. It's good we share info but be open minded to different methods and use what works for you. If cheap, discounted, red sticker must sale by date vagina is your thing, have at it. But the day before it wasn't on sale and someone paid regular price. Not everyone uses coupons at the grocery store!! Not every troop ask for a military discount!! Not every guy that wants to bang a smoking hot prostitute in Colombia wants to haggle the prices. It's like a flea market, I get to determine what I'm willing to pay after digging through the crate of items! Its all based on what it's worth to me! When my penis is giving me the thumbs up, I never think to myself what would Gringo45321 do on ISG do? A few of us need to get over yourselves LOL Hahahaha when I'm sex fueled, drunk, and have my prey in sight it's all instinct at that point. And my experiences have been awesome!


This is exactly how I think. Just ask the price, I never negotiate. If its worth it, pay it. Soon as you start to haggle it ruins it and they loose interest. You are cheap with your money they are cheap with their effort. I do not find a lot of people with this point of view. But I do agree with the one guy who said if she is a dead fish at 200 she will also be a deadfish at 250. Yes, not all girls are rock stars, so you will have bad ones, but if you grind every little penny down with them no one will want to deal with you. That extra 30-40 bucks you give will be the highlight and big deal to her. Makes the world of difference. So if the initial price is a no go just move on. With that being said, try to tell someone this philosophy at the MANSION and those old cheap trolls that go there will loose there mind and say you are ruining it for everyone. Well I was at the mansion recently and the moral of the building is low, the girls are burned out with the cheap old men. Not like it was 10 years ago. Depends on the crowd there, buy some food and drinks, spread the joy and that place is amazing. Squabble your extra $5 USA and don't buy drinks and it sucks. If you are going to be cheap go get a budget hotel and bang the 20,000 COP girls at the cheap gross casas. Bring a little extra money, throw it around, buy some drinks, dance, laugh and your money will buy you a lot more than a quick nut.

TheCarlAnthony
09-25-18, 06:18
Ummmm because she's still a human? No matter what your selling.

Or who's selling it, it's natural instinct to become defensive as someone tries to pay you less than what you value it at. In this case we are talking about her body, her mouth, her vagina. You can't see how this could affect her attitude?


So why would she ruin the connection you two have together over 10 measly dollars? Maybe not paying the 10 measly dollars more is helping you avoid a train wreck.

NYCassman
09-25-18, 06:29
I'm planning a February trip Only 3 of us. I'd like to be close to the action or very nearby in park Lleras area.

I'm looking for 4 bedroom 4 bathroom paisa friendly. It's a first time trip 3-4 guys speak Spanish. Not sure if it's standard but front door security and room safes are something I'm looking for.

I'd appreciate any suggestions.

I see a few options on airbnb, I'm hoping someone can share a few specific places.

TheCarlAnthony
09-25-18, 06:55
Mr Enternational,

I can honestly say you could be right! You've had a lot more experience than I have doing this. I wouldn't even attempt to rebuttal because frankly I don't know it as fact. I must have a mindset. When you walk in a casa or massage parlor do you negotiate the price on the card or that the manager gives? When you walk into the love motel do you attempt to negotiate an on the hour rate? Most likely not but I bet if you really tried you could with "some" of them. You most likely don't and pick your battles. The average person will get their discount with the actual girl herself they will bargain her down or tight was with a tip. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. But that is an option just like the other places you probably chose not to attempt to discount. I've had girls that I haggled with in San Jose that literally went from kissing and touching all over me in public until negotiations began as soon as I dropped the price they agreed but I noticed an almost immediate change in their attitude. Almost a let down vibe glazed over their face. I asked her if she's OK, and she said 1 word. Cheap and cut her eyes. I passed on the session because the vibe was gone over $20. When she was happy earlier thinking the price was set at her number she couldn't keep her hands off of me.


I have been through a couple thousand paid chicks. If it is not a place with a set price then I always negotiate and I don't normally give tips. The only time it seemed that a chick was not trying is from some of the street girls in Tijuana and a chick at the $6 spot on Calle 18 in Guayaquil.

To me it is riduliculous to assume things are not going to go right because you negotiated. I would like for some guys to give examples of the times they negotiated and things went bad, or is this just an assumption that is being made? Because in my experience it just does not happen that way.

Black Page
09-25-18, 10:48
- All ATMs will give out virtually the same exchange rate; virtually same as the Visa rates. If you discount for all the fees (fees that you can recover), you virtually cannot beat the exchange rate anywhere. Last week, I got around 3079. Yesterday, it just went below 3000.Amazing that this has to be repeated again and again, time after time. ATMs are by far the best way to get local cash almost ANYWHERE in the world. Still someone insists travelling with cash and feeding exchange booths.

1) The exchange rate is usually better than that one can get at exchange booths: that is, the interbank daily rate + 1. 25%, plus fixed fees that one still can avoid using the appropriate card and the appropriate ATM. Only in few places of the world (namely Batam in my case) I found exchange booths offering better rates, probably because they need USD for "supporting local trade".

2) Getting some cash from ATMs, day by day, is safer than travelling with $2 k cash.

I just wish to add a couple of remarks to what you wrote above:

1) The most widely debit card circuit is Maestro probably, and it's MasterCard, not VISA. Same exchange rate anyway, so this remark has null impact.

2) NEVER use a credit card to get cash from ATMs. Some cards are double-function. One has to know that, and be smart to avoid that the credit function is automatically selected by the system (oh yes. Banks are smart). Always select the DEBIT function, e. G. Maestro (AHORROS in Colombia ATMs). If you use the credit function, on top of all other charges there is the +4% credit fee.

El Mechanico
09-25-18, 14:48
ruining a potential great experience over $10.10 measly dollars? It's not simply $10.10. It is $10.10 2-3 times a day per chica, then every once in a while at a restaurant and more frequently with taxis. Oh wait, I almost forgot, someone on here said "no one has ever been ripped of by a taxi!" My bad! Jajajaja If it was $10.10 one time per trip, 99% would not mention it.

El Mechanico.

JjBee62
09-25-18, 15:42
I'm planning a February trip Only 3 of us. I'd like to be close to the action or very nearby in park Lleras area.

I'm looking for 4 bedroom 4 bathroom paisa friendly. It's a first time trip 3-4 guys speak Spanish. Not sure if it's standard but front door security and room safes are something I'm looking for.

I'd appreciate any suggestions.

I see a few options on airbnb, I'm hoping someone can share a few specific places.Do you want to be close to the action, or close to Parque Lleras? If you want to be in Parque Lleras, you're not really close to the action.

I'm pretty sure every apartment and hotel room in Medellin is paisa friendly. Paisa is the name used to describe someone from the area of Colombia that includes Medellin and Paisas are by nature friendly. I think you're looking for a place that is chica friendly.

You might try Poblado rentals or First American Investment Realty.

Wolf662
09-25-18, 19:57
What happened to rule #1 never, never, pay a hooker upfront?Lots of places in MED want the money 1st like strip clubs. I always pay the VeraCruz girls in advance, it's only $10 anyway. Then I hint about a tip if the secession goes well. Works for me.

NYCassman
09-25-18, 22:10
Do you want to be close to the action, or close to Parque Lleras? If you want to be in Parque Lleras, you're not really close to the action.

I'm pretty sure every apartment and hotel room in Medellin is paisa friendly. Paisa is the name used to describe someone from the area of Colombia that includes Medellin and Paisas are by nature friendly. I think you're looking for a place that is chica friendly.

You might try Poblado rentals or First American Investment Realty.I want to be in the mix of clubs bars and restaurants. I thought Park lleras was central for all the above. Is there somewhere specific you suggest that is a better location?

Yes Chica friendly, one friend visited Medellin stayed in a nice hotel 20 $ guest fee and some Airbnb apartments I have researched have house rules which don't allow guest after certain times. I'm just looking for a few specific suggestions.

I want to hit the casas clubs and I'm curious if the independents threw prepagos website is a good option for chicas.

I appreciate your response and any information anyone can share.

Knowledge
09-25-18, 22:13
You are correct on all points. I don't respond to "how much cash should I bring" posts any more because after all the discussions about this it's just guys being stubborn. Even if the ATM exchange rates were not competitive. And they are competitive. The convenience and risk of loss you avoid by not traveling will lots of cash make it worthwhile.


Amazing that this has to be repeated again and again, time after time. ATMs are by far the best way to get local cash almost ANYWHERE in the world. Still someone insists travelling with cash and feeding exchange booths.

1) The exchange rate is usually better than that one can get at exchange booths: that is, the interbank daily rate + 1. 25%, plus fixed fees that one still can avoid using the appropriate card and the appropriate ATM. Only in few places of the world (namely Batam in my case) I found exchange booths offering better rates, probably because they need USD for "supporting local trade".

VickyRai
09-26-18, 00:26
Planning a trip soon. Wanted intel on these two girls planning to see them on next trip. If you don't want to post publicly, please pm me. Will post a detailed report after the trip.

JamesPearle
09-26-18, 01:47
This was a great report.

Can people visit the M1 who do not have a room booked on property? If so, any rules prohibiting poaching the talent and taking them back to your own apartment or room?


I returned to the Mansion in late August 2018 for the first one-week leg of my two-week trip to Colombia (see the "General Info" section for Colombia for an overview of my trip) due to the quality of my previous experiences at the Mansion. I nonetheless decided to do things differently this time. M1 did not have one room available for all of my desired dates, so I decided to stay in M2, which did have one room available for all of my desired dates. While the "frat house" atmosphere of M1 had been a key part of the Mansion's appeal for me, I decided to make a virtue of out of necessity and take advantage of the greater privacy and quietness of M2 for a higher proportion of Facebook citas, with the Mansion's on-site talent as a backup or secondary source..

HolyTrinity
09-26-18, 03:45
Lots of places in MED want the money 1st like strip clubs. I always pay the VeraCruz girls in advance, it's only $10 anyway. Then I hint about a tip if the secession goes well. Works for me.Yup, and also all the girls who work from their apartments take the money up front and provide great service, 2 pops an hour never had an issue. The only ones I would never trust to pay up front is the Parque Lleras girls.

TimeKeeper281
09-26-18, 03:57
I would still be interested to see if anyone has priced the Instagram model market. It could be the same as the stories of expensive dinner dates and shopping excursions. They certainly did not respond to my offer of 175 k. I found out the night before that one of those I follow on Instagram was a webcam model.I mess around with 2 or 3 a trip. 200 to 350 USD.

GreenBud
09-26-18, 05:03
You have to pay for the room upfront, not the girl. If an individual provider insists on upfront payment, my advice is to find another. Anyone who does otherwise should be prepared to take their lumps before moving on.Is that the standard? Several of the girls asked for prepayment. A few didn't. I never negotiated; I just assumed that was the standard. Ya, if you paid afterwards, I wouldn't have been scammed by that one girl who reneged.

There wasn't that many scammers at Vera Cruz. It seems there's more in Bogota's Santa Fe. By scammers I mean reneging on what was negotiated.

It seems the standard is that the customer pays for the short time room. But there's differences in cleanliness, time and price. Might have been scammed for a few pesos couple of times.

I kind of treated the 40 K COP (30 K + 10 K) as a 30 minute ladydrink / lapdance interview. If I like, then I negotiated for more.

HolyTrinity
09-26-18, 05:12
I want to be in the mix of clubs bars and restaurants. I thought Park lleras was central for all the above. Is there somewhere specific you suggest that is a better location?

Yes Chica friendly, one friend visited Medellin stayed in a nice hotel 20 $ guest fee and some Airbnb apartments I have researched have house rules which don't allow guest after certain times. I'm just looking for a few specific suggestions.

I want to hit the casas clubs and I'm curious if the independents threw prepagos website is a good option for chicas.

I appreciate your response and any information anyone can share.Just contact the AirBnB owners and ask if it is guest friendly, nothing to lose. Don't say you want to party just say you have friends in the city and want to make sure you won't get charged for visits. But honestly, most owners know exactly what a group of men are doing there so they would have to be assholes not to warn you about a no chica policy before taking your money.

The prepagos website in itself can be a hit or miss, but its far from the only website. There's a few websites. There's a Colombian review site that reviews girls from ads on websites that has worked great for me but I think ill get in trouble if I post it here. PM me if you can. There are some girls here who don't really know the gringo game and only charge 100 k for a nice GFE an BBBJ. Make sure not to inform them how cheap they are LOL, these girls will rarely go any more than 150, you can even get a nice 3 some for 120 k.

Also I noticed a huge difference in Parque Lleras from a year ago til now, Last year they were charging 150 k. I went there last weekend just to see what its like and it seems all the half decent up to the top notch hoes are going straight to Gustos and skipping the park, you can see all the beautiful ones walking past everybody and straight into Gustos where they can charge $400 USD to a drunk gringo. Good for them, but it was hilarious when a run down hoe approached me and I said wsup and she immediately said 300 k an hour, I laughed in her face and took a cab to Fase 2 and had a beautiful girl ride me like a rabbit for 10 minutes till I bust and then went home. The F2 girls fuck like pros, at 190 k its not a bad last resort. If you don't mind paying 300 k then join Vanes whatsapp group. I took one from there and damn she was fine. But there's so many gringos on there talking about how cheap 300 k is that the prices will definitely be going up soon.

If you're in a group and you all speak Spanish, then you should definitely hit up the casas together and collect whatsapp numbers. A lot more affordable. Don't forget facebook, easiest way to setup girls before you even get there and the most likely to give GFE and BBBJ other than the apartment girls. Don't ever ask them the price first, just get into what good time you want to have with them. Eventually they will ask how much you are giving them and then you name your price. Or if they try to tell you a high price just say you never pay more than 150. It sometimes works. If they refuse to budge on a high price then say fuck it and pay it if she's worth it, the goal here is to not make it seem like you'll just say yes to anything and lets them know they're not dealing with a desperate guy. But in the end just lighten it all up with a joke and the vibe fixes instantly.

If you're not scared to get a little grimy then you can hit up el centro streets specifically on a Saturday afternoon, you can find something pretty nice for $10-$30 in the midst of some nastiness.

Just don't put all your hopes in certain girls, you may think your going to see this or that girl and when you get here you end up doing a whole different thing. But you will enjoy regardless, its a huge city full of hoes, and to be honest, although it can be fun to just hang out there, I'm convinced Parque Lleras is the worst place to start. If Parque Lleras is your only plan then I can't knock that but you should know you are missing out on a lot.

But if you like to walk around and just see beautiful women, Poblado malls are pretty impressive, also the train, Centro surprises me sometimes, fuck man what am I saying this whole city is full of beautiful women.

JjBee62
09-26-18, 15:30
I want to be in the mix of clubs bars and restaurants. I thought Park lleras was central for all the above. Is there somewhere specific you suggest that is a better location?

Yes Chica friendly, one friend visited Medellin stayed in a nice hotel 20 $ guest fee and some Airbnb apartments I have researched have house rules which don't allow guest after certain times. I'm just looking for a few specific suggestions.

I want to hit the casas clubs and I'm curious if the independents threw prepagos website is a good option for chicas.

I appreciate your response and any information anyone can share.Yes, Parque Lleras is central to bars, clubs and restaurants. The casas are mostly located in El Centro.

Depends on which prepagos website. There's a lot of bait and switch with the ad sites.

JjBee62
09-26-18, 15:36
This was a great report.

Can people visit the M1 who do not have a room booked on property? If so, any rules prohibiting poaching the talent and taking them back to your own apartment or room?More information can be found in the Medellin Mansion thread below. Sometimes, if they accept you, they will let you pay 50 k to enter and go to the bar. There's no rule against taking a girl back to your place, since that's your only option if you're not booked there. Who wants to pay a 50 k cover charge if the girls aren't available?

If you just show up at the door, they won't let you in.

Big Boss Man
09-26-18, 18:04
I mess around with 2 or 3 a trip. 200 to 350 USD.I added the one you listed in the Baranquilla thread to my Instagram. I am a leg man so I think she is very hot.

Do you slow play it or do you make an offer immediately? There could be difference in strategy between us since because of our age difference (30's vs late 60's). I really do not want to go to a night club with a chica I don't know. So do think you offering $200 would get their attention or even $150 so that they would at least counter offer. I would probably want to meet in a short-term hotel.

Big Boss Man
09-26-18, 18:22
If you don't mind paying 300 k then join Vanes whatsapp group. I took one from there and damn she was fine. But there's so many gringos on there talking about how cheap 300 k is that the prices will definitely be going up soon.

Wow! Prices in Vane's group have gone up in the last 4 weeks. It was 250 k the last two weeks in August and it was the price Vane posted in her thread. Vane gets 50 k of that price so I thought it was comparable to a Facebook chica asking 200 k and using Vane was far more efficient for me. Although it must be said that I had to settle for second and third choices at 250 k. I never asked if first choices were available for more.

Kelso1
09-27-18, 03:45
Is that the standard? Several of the girls asked for prepayment. A few didn't. I never negotiated; I just assumed that was the standard. Ya, if you paid afterwards, I wouldn't have been scammed by that one girl who reneged.

There wasn't that many scammers at Vera Cruz. It seems there's more in Bogota's Santa Fe. By scammers I mean reneging on what was negotiated.

It seems the standard is that the customer pays for the short time room. But there's differences in cleanliness, time and price. Might have been scammed for a few pesos couple of times.

I kind of treated the 40 K COP (30 K + 10 K) as a 30 minute ladydrink / lapdance interview. If I like, then I negotiated for more.This is exactly what another fellow a few days ago posted about. The hunt. Just like taking a car out for a spin before you buy it. I always felt that even if the girl turns out to be a dud then you still got to spend a little time with a beautiful girl while she is naked. The goldmine is hit when she turns into a sweetheart, and then you can take it from there anyway you like.

TheCarlAnthony
09-27-18, 04:57
If Parque Lleras is your only plan then I can't knock that but you should know you are missing out on a lot.

But if you like to walk around and just see beautiful women, Poblado malls are pretty impressive, also the train, Centro surprises me sometimes, fuck man what am I saying this whole city is full of beautiful women.Great response bro. Here's my question to you. When I come to Medellin I normally spend a lot of my party time in Parque Llares. I go to Gustos and the main busy bars down there then end the night at Phase II if it's a Saturday. I always fear that if it Saturday night and I'm not at LLares, I'm missing out trying hit or miss places. Probably because on here we rarely see people talk about places outside of Llaress. Of course you here a few mentions of Poblado or Laureless, but because it's so rare it almost comes across as subpar to LLares. Can anyone tell me a bar area that I could uber to at say 10 pm on a Saturday that is equally as busy or fun as LLares. I don't want a few hole in the wall local bars. I'm talking. Bars next door to other packed bars and dance clubs like the LLares vibe has? Street walkers outside of the bars waiting for attention etc etc. ? I need like specifics streets. I want to be at LLares and the say to my friend I know a place similar to this place with different people. I'll call an uber, we are going to." Any suggestions. We are looking for hookers to be available if the girls in the bars are not acting right. Not just college girls out drinking.

JjBee62
09-27-18, 21:06
Great response bro. Here's my question to you. When I come to Medellin I normally spend a lot of my party time in Parque Llares. I go to Gustos and the main busy bars down there then end the night at Phase II if it's a Saturday. I always fear that if it Saturday night and I'm not at LLares, I'm missing out trying hit or miss places. Probably because on here we rarely see people talk about places outside of Llaress. Of course you here a few mentions of Poblado or Laureless, but because it's so rare it almost comes across as subpar to LLares. Can anyone tell me a bar area that I could uber to at say 10 pm on a Saturday that is equally as busy or fun as LLares. I don't want a few hole in the wall local bars. I'm talking. Bars next door to other packed bars and dance clubs like the LLares vibe has? Street walkers outside of the bars waiting for attention etc etc. ? I need like specifics streets. I want to be at LLares and the say to my friend I know a place similar to this place with different people. I'll call an uber, we are going to." Any suggestions. We are looking for hookers to be available if the girls in the bars are not acting right. Not just college girls out drinking.There's another place, sort of. Parque Lleras has all the hookers hanging around, because that's where all the gringos are. All of the other places have plenty of hookers on a Saturday night, except most of them are out partying with friends and family. Parque Lleras is too expensive when they are buying their own drinks.

Carrera 70 in Laureles is the best hope outside of Parque Lleras. It's easy to navigate. All the clubs are on Carrera 70 between the Estadio and UPB. Just tell the Uber "La setenta cerca del Estadio. " There are plenty of clubs and there are usually some girls working the street. A lot of Venezuelans hang out in the area.

The girls there are more subtle than in Lleras, which makes them harder to spot. There are several love motels in the area.

If you're feeling more adventurous, you can try Bello. I don't know the streets, but you should be able to find it on the map. There's a large group of prepagos who party there all the time.

Warning: Nighttime in Bello you're completely outside the gringo zone. I would not advise taking a stroll looking for streetwalkers. Stick to the clubs.

ShawMan74
09-28-18, 00:57
I just got back last week from a month in Medellin, wow what an adventure. And for as long as I was there, I still didn't do everything the city has to offer!

Finally got caught up on work here at home, so lets get into the report, starting with the guides. I highly recommend you do this. Your trip will not be the same without one. Ever since Rio, its the only way I'll roll. (and I now that I know better, I wish I did this in Buenos Aires. Go to that forum to witness my struggles and shenanigans HAHA).

You can check my review on Cali and see what I went through over there before I found a reputable contact. Much of the same first happened here in Medellin with the first driver / guide I met. I met him through the apartment company (same company as in Cali too), as they used him as transportation from the airport. Not only was he more expensive, he was not responsive or responsible. And his intel was garbage. The guy's name is Andre and he is a "kid guide". If you want to stay away from him, PM and I'll give you more details. I not only needed help with chicas, I needed help with my dj controller which was damaged during the flight! It was making a very annoying screeching noise through my speakers and it was killing me. What the hell was I going to do? Even if I could find a place to help, how was I going to get there? This had me looking.

So I went through the guide section of WorldTraveler69's map / list looking for help and started texting it down at random. You know what they say, when the student is ready the master will appear. William, (the best damn guide in Medellin) was the first to text me back!

I explained my predicament and he assured me he could help. When we met at the arranged time, he was inviting, friendly, confident, and with a good, clean, reliable vehicle. I let him know how I found him and that, yes chicas were on the agenda, but there are more pressing concerns at the moment. Willi hadn't encountered anything like this before and saw it as a challenge! Such an incredible wealth of knowledge about this city (and flora / fauna / Colombia in general, it's encyclopedic). He took me to a repair shop, and stayed with me the entire afternoon until the repair was completed (and yes it was a Repair, not a Replace). I had a little bucket list of mine for Medellin, he asked me about it and chuckled. I didn't know at the time, but every one of those was going to be accomplished before I left, thanks to Willi.

Willi knows Medellin like the back of his hand and he customizes every experience for your specific personal needs. He really reads his customers and gives them the best personal experience for them. He stays with you and makes sure you stay safe.

Don't want to just tour a coffee farm but was more interested in buying one? Have medical issues that you don't want to go into debt for? You wouldn't be Willi's first customer on either count. If you want to go fishing but aren't particularly athletic, no problem, he's going to money you up. Want to go birding into a corner of the country with river trails that take you across slippery rocks, knotted tree roots, and steep inclines, well out of reach of any other tour company and only where professional photographers would dare venture? He's your man. He's in his 50's and with a full pack he's still outpacing me! Oh BTW, he brought a bag so he could pick up other people's pollution and trash because he believes in leaving a place better than you found it. In addition to chicas and airport transfers, we went on a campfire hike and a city tour / real estate excursion. I used him for all of it, at this point I consider him a friend and I cannot recommend him enough.

Now on to the chicas.

The first place I went to was one of Willi's recommendations, a place called "Energy". Without him I would have never found it. It is beyond discreet, there's no signage. In a somewhat residential area, it looks like a regular building with a townhouse garage. Willi knows everyone there of course, and we parked right in the garage haha!

The girl I chose was Natalia, short, dark hair, sweet face / smile, she's all natural, in great shape, incredible warm personality / attitude, wonderful sense of humor, . In fact we enjoyed eachother so much we ended up seeing eachother every weekend I was there until I left, a total of 4 times. And we still talk.

The second place we went to was Lutron, and we went there twice on different occasions. There isn't much I am going to say about the place that hasn't been mentioned before. I saw Nicole and Celeste. They are both absolute stunners, the girls at that place are like models. The sex is absolutely great. Each girl does her own thing in her own way. I don't think its a ymmv, as much as it is that each experience is going to be its own thing. But the place has an odd sterility and coldness about it. Nobody is particularly friendly or warm over there, not even the staff. I love the facilities and the grounds through, very well built and located. If you want more details, just ask or PM.

Ok I'm going to to stop now because if I don't I am going to spiral into depression. I broke up with that girl I met in Cali a few days ago. It wasn't working out. I am a free man again, but I'm free in the empty wasteland of the united states. I hate the united states SO much. United flight 1031 is officially dubbed "the trail of tears".

MedellinGringo
09-28-18, 02:39
I just got back last week from a month in Medellin, wow what an adventure. And for as long as I was there, I still didn't do everything the city has to offer!

Finally got caught up on work here at home, so lets get into the report, starting with the guides. I highly recommend you do this. Your trip will not be the same without one. Ever since Rio, its the only way I'll roll. (and I now that I know better, I wish I did this in Buenos Aires. Go to that forum to witness my struggles and shenanigans HAHA).

You can check my review on Cali and see what I went through over there before I found a reputable contact. Much of the same first happened here in Medellin with the first driver / guide I met. I met him through the apartment company (same company as in Cali too), as they used him as transportation from the airport. Not only was he more expensive, he was not responsive or responsible. And his intel was garbage..Is this the guy that helped you?

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g297478-d6513892-Reviews-Willi_s_Best_Guide_Medellin-Medellin_Antioquia_Department.html

He has good reviews for the normal touristy stuff but I would be interested in knowing how else he helped you with chicks besides taking you to two of the most well know casas in Medellin?

Manizales911
09-28-18, 03:47
William, (the best damn guide in Medellin) was the first to text me back!The big question is what did he charge for his services?

StripperMan
09-28-18, 04:56
The big question is what did he charge for his services?Also, what surcharges if any were charged for drinks & girls at these casas? What notoriously happens in Tijuana and other places is the taxi or guide will take his client to casas, stripclubs, hotels etc, and then go in and request his kickback for bringing the client. The business will gladly pay it because they just charge the client extra for all goods & services.

This may not have happened in this case because the guide seems to have been paid well. However I wouldn't be surprised if any guide decided to double dip a little.

JeraldoRivera
09-28-18, 14:42
That trail of tears flite suks ass. I feel your pain everyday for many years now.

Knowledge
09-28-18, 15:13
Me and many other guys on here would have given you that information for free. You would have to RTFF but it wouldn't take you long to know all about the places you visited and many more. No worries, we should all do what works for us.


I just got back last week from a month in Medellin, wow what an adventure. And for as long as I was there, I still didn't do everything the city has to offer!

Finally got caught up on work here at home, so lets get into the report, starting with the guides. I highly recommend you do this. Your trip will not be the same without one. Ever since Rio, its the only way I'll roll. (and I now that I know better, I wish I did this in Buenos Aires. Go to that forum to witness my struggles and shenanigans HAHA)..

IamLookin
09-28-18, 19:59
The real question is why are guys going to Vane? Makes no sense with the wealth of information available in this site to do so. How many times has it be written that all you need is to build Facebook contacts. When I go I never spend over 200 k for a couple of pops. And yes the session is very intimate. Some girls that know me actually ask me for TLN and for that I pay 300 K and as many pops I can muster. Why are guys paying someone to show them Energy or Loutron? Is it a language barrier? These are the same girls that have told me how desperate gringos pay them 300 k at the Mandion The info is available in the website but I guess people don't want to read and accept it. For the record, I am 62 years old and balding, I could lose a few pounds. I do speak Spanish fluently


Wow! Prices in Vane's group have gone up in the last 4 weeks. It was 250 k the last two weeks in August and it was the price Vane posted in her thread. Vane gets 50 k of that price so I thought it was comparable to a Facebook chica asking 200 k and using Vane was far more efficient for me. Although it must be said that I had to settle for second and third choices at 250 k. I never asked if first choices were available for more..

MedellinGringo
09-29-18, 04:27
The real question is why are guys going to Vane? Makes no sense with the wealth of information available in this site to do so. How many times has it be written that all you need is to build Facebook contacts.

.It really isn't as easy as all that. It would be the difference between me giving a guy my facebook contacts and saying here you go.

Most likely there will be quite a few no shows or no response all.
Or me calling the girls up that I know and saying. Come on over I have a friend I want you to meet.

Then there would be very few no shows if any at all.

Orgasmico
09-29-18, 14:47
Wow! Prices in Vane's group have gone up in the last 4 weeks. It was 250 k the last two weeks in August and it was the price Vane posted in her thread. Vane gets 50 k of that price so I thought it was comparable to a Facebook chica asking 200 k and using Vane was far more efficient for me. Although it must be said that I had to settle for second and third choices at 250 k. I never asked if first choices were available for more.Does anyone know of a situation where posting mongering information on the Internet caused prices to decrease?

Manizales911
09-29-18, 15:15
I do speak Spanish fluently

.Bingo. That's the game changer right there.

AsianRider
09-29-18, 17:37
Last month after diving in Key Largo travelled down to Medellin for a week. Watching Narcos TV series, and reading these trip reports it became a must place to visit! I stayed at Mansion 2, a converted house maybe a 100 m up the hill from Mansion 1 where the bar is downstairs. Room is functional with big mirror, easy to meet the others staying in the breakfast balcony, lounge area. All the Mansion staff were friendly, and every night ladies turned up at Mansion 1 bar downstairs. Most seemed to be requesting 200 k plus taxi. If they stayed all night, certainly wanted more. Girls were pretty but business like. There were banks and restaurants nearby. I had a great afternoon trip to Pablo Escobar museum and found it very interesting. Many things referred to in Narcos TV series you can see exhibited at the museum which is a former safe house run by Roberto Escobar after he served 14 years in jail. Back to the ladies. It helps if you can speak some Spanish, very few people seemed to speak English. Google translate is not sexy in bed LOL. My favourite places were Fantasia Energy. An hour was 150 k in a smart room with shower, girls do a walk-by and introduce themselves. New Life massage had a lot of girls and was much cheaper, time was charged in 15 minute increments once you were in the room 30 min was 50 k. A new massage shop which a Mansion driver took us to was "Divini Women" near New Life, had a prepaid menu system and some hot ladies, but no aircon in the room. Fase 2 and La Isla were strip clubs with some hot girls. After a dance you gave the girl a nominal dollar tip, and buy them a drink if you are interested. Entry fee was 10,000. Both places had rooms available too. La Isla was on a hilltop with a lot of restaurants outside. If you like silicon and arse implants this is the place for you. Colombian money seems more expensive than it is really with all the zero's. The exchange office at the airport had terrible rates, but to use a card and withdraw money from ATM's. Girls in Medellin don't seem to use WeChat, they all connect using WhatsApp and Facebook. I subscribed to Colombian Cupid for a month on the premium service, but was a lot of time wasted filtering messages. Medellin is a nice high altitude city with hot ladies, but learn some Spanish before you go there to get maximum enjoyment from it.

Lowkey1
09-29-18, 19:01
So the girls at the Mansion are under contract or something and are forced to go there? I would expect the morals of the building to be low seeing that it is a fuckshop.Not under contract but an invite. They do get the most money there because it's mainly Americans and we pay more versus local spots. So when they get excited to come there to make good money (for their standard) and cheap for ours those last 5-10 bucks people try to negotiate down is killing the deal for them. It is safer and nicer there but in the end it is a major convenience for us so the amount you pay is worth it versus trying luck at another establishment or in the street. To each their own.

ShawMan74
09-29-18, 19:10
Is this the guy that helped you?

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g297478-d6513892-Reviews-Willi_s_Best_Guide_Medellin-Medellin_Antioquia_Department.html

He has good reviews for the normal touristy stuff but I would be interested in knowing how else he helped you with chicks besides taking you to two of the most well know casas in Medellin?Yes, he is the tour guide who helped me, the GOOD one, not the one you mentioned in your quote of my report. The chica help I listed is all we did because its all I wanted to do. Willi custom-tailors the experience for each client, so no two excursions are going to be exactly alike. He has such an encyclopedic knowledge, I would point at a random buildings or small houses while we were touring the city, and without missing a beat he would give me a storied history of the place. IMHO if you wanted something more underground or off the beaten path, he would be the first source to ask.


The big question is what did he charge for his services?$45.000 COP / hour flat rate. Willi didn't pass a charge on to me for anything, didn't hustle for tips, nothing. Incredibly professional.


Also, what surcharges if any were charged for drinks & girls at these casas? What notoriously happens in Tijuana and other places is the taxi or guide will take his client to casas, stripclubs, hotels etc, and then go in and request his kickback for bringing the client. The business will gladly pay it because they just charge the client extra for all goods & services.

This may not have happened in this case because the guide seems to have been paid well. However I wouldn't be surprised if any guide decided to double dip a little.None of the casas asked me for anything. No surcharges or extras.

IamLookin
09-29-18, 19:10
I agree with you.

I use whatsapp and fb messenger communicating with the girls quite a bit before meeting. However, still mongers should be aware what prices can be had for services. Even the prices I pay are way higher than what a colombian would pay.


Bingo. That's the game changer right there.

JjBee62
09-29-18, 21:16
So the girls at the Mansion are under contract or something and are forced to go there? I would expect the morals of the building to be low seeing that it is a fuckshop.I believe he meant morale was low.

Knowledge
09-30-18, 03:52
I always read that you don't need Spanish if you stay at Mansion, or stay at Mansion if you can't speak Spanish. This guy stayed at Mansion but mentions needing Spanish, I'm confused.


Bingo. That's the game changer right there.

Socker
09-30-18, 04:59
Last month after diving in Key Largo travelled down to Medellin for a week. Watching Narcos TV series, and reading these trip reports it became a must place to visit! I stayed at Mansion 2, a converted house maybe a 100 m up the hill from Mansion 1 where the bar is downstairs. Room is functional with big mirror, easy to meet the others staying in the breakfast balcony, lounge area. All the Mansion staff were friendly, and every night ladies turned up at Mansion 1 bar downstairs. Most seemed to be requesting 200 k plus taxi. If they stayed all night, certainly wanted more. Girls were pretty but business like. There were banks and restaurants nearby. I had a great afternoon trip to Pablo Escobar museum and found it very interesting. Many things referred to in Narcos TV series you can see exhibited at the museum which is a former safe house run by Roberto Escobar after he served 14 years in jail. Back to the ladies. It helps if you can speak some Spanish, very few people seemed to speak English. Google translate is not sexy in bed LOL. My favourite places were Fantasia Energy. An hour was 150 k in a smart room with shower, girls do a walk-by and introduce themselves. New Life massage had a lot of girls and was much cheaper, time was charged in 15 minute increments once you were in the room 30 min was 50 k. A new massage shop which a Mansion driver took us to was "Divini Women" near New Life, had a prepaid menu system and some hot ladies, but no aircon in the room. Fase 2 and La Isla were strip clubs with some hot girls. After a dance you gave the girl a nominal dollar tip, and buy them a drink if you are interested. Entry fee was 10,000.Sounds like you had a great time. Also thanks for mentioning the PE Museum now I want to check it out. I'll be there in 10 days or so splitting my time between the mansion and a nice condo near Parque Lleras. Thanks for the concise FR.

Wolf662
09-30-18, 06:34
I always read that you don't need Spanish if you stay at Mansion, or stay at Mansion if you can't speak Spanish. This guy stayed at Mansion but mentions needing Spanish, I'm confused.I think some of the staff speak English but most the girls don't I'd guess.

IamLookin
09-30-18, 14:13
45 K an hour? Most Colombians would kill for that much money.


Yes, he is the tour guide who helped me, the GOOD one, not the one you mentioned in your quote of my report. The chica help I listed is all we did because its all I wanted to do. Willi custom-tailors the experience for each client, so no two excursions are going to be exactly alike. He has such an encyclopedic knowledge, I would point at a random buildings or small houses while we were touring the city, and without missing a beat he would give me a storied history of the place. IMHO if you wanted something more underground or off the beaten path, he would be the first source to ask.

$45.000 COP / hour flat rate. Willi didn't pass a charge on to me for anything, didn't hustle for tips, nothing. Incredibly professional.

None of the casas asked me for anything. No surcharges or extras.

Horny Goats
09-30-18, 16:00
If you are hitting the Centro strip clubs besides Conejitas the other 2 big ones are Barra Ejectiva and right next door Maracaibo. Barra has more girls of those two. They are only a few blocks from Conejitas.Yeah, man. I checked these out last night and see what you mean. Tons of talent. Going to post a mini-report momentarily.

Horny Goats
09-30-18, 16:18
I had a chance to check out these two places last night (Sat). Even though I live in Medellin, I just discovered ISG so they were somehow unknown to me. Bigs up to all who have posted about them previously.

I started at Maracaibo, and I was impressed with the talent, although it was a little too early, and the ladies were still coming in. I had a drink but the grass is always greener, especially when it's two doors away, so I left to check out Barra Ejecutiva. Again, it was early, around 7:30 (even though I'm younger, that tends to be more my style unless I'm with friends). Nonetheless, there was a ton of talent on display and it kept pouring in. I can't imagine there's not at least an 8 there no matter what your personal scale is. I saw plenty. My plan was to stick around for awhile and drink, but after a couple I was persuaded to session with a stacked chica for 70 K plus 15 K for the room. That seems to be about the going rate. Chica had great energy and agreed to let me fuck her tits without a condom and finish there for an unspecified tip. I had so much fun I splurged for an extra 30 minutes and eventually blasted all over her tits, neck, and hair (oops). She wanted her tip but I was like, no, the extra 30 minutes (of which we used like 10) is the tip, and she accepted that with aplomb.

Ah, she might not be the brightest bulb in the book, because she mistook me for a Colombiano when she first sat down, which is perhaps the nicest thing anybody has ever said about me.

My only complaint is one that I've read on this forum before: the room at Barra Ejecutiva was terribly hot. Install AC in one room and charge and extra 15 K for it. Watch how popular it becomes and go from there. Shit.

(There was no cover at either of these places.).

I'll certainly return often.

Kafka
09-30-18, 17:19
I opted out of Medellin. Anywhere the P4 P scene gets institutionalized prices go up, service goes down. I'll take a semi-pro anytime over a hard core cash girl.

Bleble
09-30-18, 19:26
Luna lunera. Go only after 9 pm, otherwise it will only be a waste of time.

Barra ejevtivo.

Lots of implants. Only a few will be natural. 9 mil for water, 10 mil for beer. The locals don't even tip the dancers. Foreigners tip 2 mil when dancers come by.

La Isla.

High end place. Again lots of implants, rare to find naturals. Even one tips the dancers 2 mil. Dances are really short. Atmosphere is good and isn't too crowded. The staff appears very professional.

IamLookin
09-30-18, 19:31
If you stay at the Mansion you don't need to know Spanish. The women know why you are there. It is a gringo spot, the services are generally ok, But, from my understandng most of the girls there want 200 K to 250 K for a single pop. I will let someone else confirm that. I went there for a night once years ago just out of curiosity. I will not return as I found it to be overpriced and if you can speak Spanish, you have no reason to stay there.


I always read that you don't need Spanish if you stay at Mansion, or stay at Mansion if you can't speak Spanish. This guy stayed at Mansion but mentions needing Spanish, I'm confused.

ShawMan74
09-30-18, 20:51
45 K an hour? Most Colombians would kill for that much money.Yeah, but most colombians aren't running their own business like that. Employees have luxuries owners don't. Willi is taking the risk, he is paying for the downtime when he is not on job (which is VERY rare, everything is at least a day out with him) he is paying the insurance, and the gas, he is maintaining his own fleet and putting in the labor to keep everything nice and clean for customers. Not to mention its his knowledge you are paying for and his research. He does not call off the game on account of weather. Our campfire hike is a good example. He brought the groceries, and precooked the potatoes so they would get done reliably, and he brought coals and a grill, so we didn't have to rely on the fire if conditions got too wet. We were at a place that had a variety on trail conditions to meet the level of challenge I could accommodate, it was out in a very diverse / high quality nature park. And he told me if push came to shove, based on all the factors, we could convert the outing into a fishing trip. And there were other trails nearby that we hit as well, that only locals might know about. He always had a plan A, be, and see, even with stuff like traffic on his touring. This is the level of preparation he does for everything and the level of knowledge / skill he has to be able to do it. Totally worth it, he has my full recommendation.


I opted out of Medellin. Anywhere the P4 P scene gets institutionalized prices go up, service goes down. I'll take a semi-pro anytime over a hard core cash girl.I understand when something gets played out, and becomes more of a fraud than anything else (thailand, netherlands) but all the talent is in the commercialized / legalized areas. Its a balance. I've learned this the hard way (see my posts in Buenos Aires forum). If you're looking for a real stunner, a 8+, you're not going to find it off the dusty trail, she is going to be on the well beaten path looking for gringo money and safety from the state. This is clearly witnessed in the difference of quality to be found between Cali and medellin. Medellin girls blow Cali out of the water, and the few stunners in Cali usually came from medellin for a reason. Otherwise the real talent goes running to medellin by any means necessary, her gifts / value are wasted in the small towns. HER availability in the first place is courtesy of legalization and her price is wonderful only by dint of the exchange rate.

Mr Enternational
09-30-18, 22:08
If you're looking for a real stunner, a 8+, you're not going to find it off the dusty trail, she is going to be on the well beaten path looking for gringo money and safety from the state.I beg to differ. You say that as if they get their start in the big leagues. Nobody goes from playing stickball in their backyard straight to the major leagues. While others have disagreed, I have said time and time again that chicks in Pattaya, Thailand will start off at the $30 Soi 6 places that most guys go to and say all the chicks are undesirable. From there they move up the ladder to other venues.

The other day one regular poster said that he went into one of the most expensive places and saw a chick working there that he had fucked at one of the cheap places a couple years back.


Some of you who are Soi 6 regulars will know this girl Tukta. I must have bonked her at least thrice when she used to work at Soi 6. Butterfly Bar if I remember right. I have not seen her in 2 years and it has been over a year that I visited Pattaya. And now she magically pops up at. Hold your breath. Sapphire. Now that is some serious upgrade. But you would recommend the used rental car lot route? Wait until many people have rented them and dogged them out, then pick them up in the more popular venues when they are overpriced.

PolloNegro
09-30-18, 22:25
Here yee Here yee! Why is there so much disagreement on the board, LOL. I love this place. Love it so much, I actually rented 3 rooms, 3 different locations. Won't complain about prices call most of the board are pro's and get girls at the cheapest rates. So in this report I will allow you to see what a $18/ day room looks like, what a $30/ day room looks like, and what a $58/ day room looks like. The girls are plenty, but I have my own stable, and I like the centro girls. Just my own liking. I am actually seeing many skinny girls on this trip, as I come to find out many guys are looking for spinners and petite girls. I'm a ass man myself. But as a good monger I switched it up just to see what the rave was about all the skinny girls? I am seeing at least 3 girls daily, plus my girlfriend, and one of her cousins. I did eat my Wheaties and drank my Gatorade. I will be posting a few pics on my next few posts. If you feel you're paying too much, you have 2 choices. 1. Find a cheaper date. 2. Bring more coins on the next trip! Complaining about cost in Colombia tells everyone on the board a whole lot. I'm not saying be a fool. I am saying, put in the ground work and you will lower your costs significantly! Pollonegro is out!

JjBee62
09-30-18, 23:03
Yeah, but most colombians aren't running their own business like that. Employees have luxuries owners don't. Willi is taking the risk, he is paying for the downtime when he is not on job (which is VERY rare, everything is at least a day out with him) he is paying the insurance, and the gas, he is maintaining his own fleet and putting in the labor to keep everything nice and clean for customers. Not to mention its his knowledge you are paying for and his research. He does not call off the game on account of weather. Our campfire hike is a good example. He brought the groceries, and precooked the potatoes so they would get done reliably, and he brought coals and a grill, so we didn't have to rely on the fire if conditions got too wet. We were at a place that had a variety on trail conditions to meet the level of challenge I could accommodate, it was out in a very diverse / high quality nature park. And he told me if push came to shove, based on all the factors, we could convert the outing into a fishing trip. And there were other trails nearby that we hit as well, that only locals might know about. He always had a plan A, be, and see, even with stuff like traffic on his touring. This is the level of preparation he does for everything and the level of knowledge / skill he has to be able to do it. Totally worth it, he has my full recommendation..You're both right. Most Colombians would be thrilled with 45 k per hour. At that rate, he only needs to work 25-30 hours per week to live well, after paying gas and maintenance. However, if you're looking for someone who can handle everything you described and you're comfortable with the price, it's a good deal.

As for the 8+ women only being found at the top venues, you missed completely. If you want to pay the highest price, usually for the lowest service, go to the hottest girls at the top sites. If you would rather get girls just as hot, with better service at a much lower price, you have to look elsewhere. Head up into the hills some time. Take a walk through the estrato 2 neighborhoods. You'll find plenty of 8, 9 and 10 girls who aren't playing the gringo game. They aren't going to be point and click, but if you can handle a conversation, there are plenty of opportunities.

Knowledge
10-01-18, 00:18
I'm a little less confused now, thanks. I'm not curious enough to visit but my remaining confusion is about the women knowing why you are there being. Isn't that true of any other venue like strip clubs, casas, and Lleras bars. I think the part about it being a gringo spot is the attraction for some. As best I can tell, that is what sets it apart. It's just me but I doubt I will ever understand the value proposition. We all have to find our happy places.


If you stay at the Mansion you don't need to know Spanish. The women know why you are there. It is a gringo spot, the services are generally ok, But, from my understandng most of the girls there want 200 K to 250 K for a single pop. I will let someone else confirm that. I went there for a night once years ago just out of curiosity. I will not return as I found it to be overpriced and if you can speak Spanish, you have no reason to stay there.

Paulie97
10-01-18, 00:27
I beg to differ. You say that as if they get their start in the big leagues. Nobody goes from playing stickball in their backyard straight to the major leagues. While others have disagreed, I have said time and time again that chicks in Pattaya, Thailand will start off at the $30 Soi 6 places that most guys go to and say all the chicks are undesirable. From there they move up the ladder to other venues.

The other day one regular poster said that he went into one of the most expensive places and saw a chick working there that he had fucked at one of the cheap places a couple years back.

But you would recommend the used rental car lot route? Wait until many people have rented them and dogged them out.I've seen it again and again, the hotter Centro casa girls graduating to places like Energy or Loutron. Two Venezuelan friends I've known for a year recently moved from a Centro strip club to Fase Dos. Can be hard to bring yourself to pay three times as much for the same girl that may not look quite as good as the life takes it's toll.

Have also seen the same in San Jose, Costa Rica with the move from the MPs to the Del Rey.

Same girl, triple the price though in this case some go back and forth daily.

PolloNegro
10-01-18, 00:45
Allow me to explain the cell phone game of Colombia to members of the board. If you turn on a Cell Phone in Colombia using Tigo, you have 30 days to register it or Tigo puts a permanent block on the IEMI number, then the phone is useless in Colombia, trust me, I've been through the fiasco of trying to get my phone unblocked by the official Tigo office. Foreigners cannot register phones in Colombia without a Cedula. End of story. I have my Colombian cellphone registered to my Colombian girlfriend's name, I've had too many phones blocked over the last 8 months. So far, I've been using claro recently and I've been able to keep the phone on with the same number for the last months, I still receive text messages telling me to register the phone or risk having the phone blocked. I know the cell phone business in Colombia up, down, round, & inside out. Have deep pockets & patience if you want to enter that game. Imagine, if unauthorized persons in Colombia bought a shipment of cellphones and just turned them on, it would counter set the cellphone market and make police job incredibly hard. In an effort to stop this from happening, if you do not register the phone in 30 days, the cellphone companies block the entire phone. Another hurdle, if you bring a phone into Colombia from somewhere else, in order to register it, you will need a factura. Good luck getting one for under $80 mil pesos. The alternative to this is going into an official Tigo, Claro, Movilstar office & buy a phone directly from them, then they know the phone is good, it will be registered right then and there and the Colombian government will have fleeced you just like they do the Colombians. Do I know anything about phones in Colombia? Huh, you can bet your bottom dollar I do. Plus when you register the phone officially, you leave the office & 4 hours later your phone may or may not work, especially if it came from outside of Colombia. What do I do? I bring a different unlocked phone with the box everytime I come to Colombia, & before I leave, I sell the phone for $300-$400 mil pesos. Just make sure you have a Samsung or Old iphone, Colombians will buy them hands down. Pollo negro is out!

Jayson01
10-01-18, 03:01
Allow me to explain the cell phone game of Colombia to members of the board. If you turn on a Cell Phone in Colombia using Tigo, you have 30 days to register it or Tigo puts a permanent block on the IEMI number, then the phone is useless in Colombia, trust me..
...So far, I've been using claro recently and I've been able to keep the phone on with the same number for the last months, I still receive text messages telling me to register the phone or risk having the phone blocked. That was an odd reason to block the the whole IMEI and quite unheard of in other places. They should just make registration mandatory when selling sim card like anywhere else. So my cellphone will be useless in Colombia, once I leave the country and return unregistered after 30 days and I can't registered it online. What if you buy from another company? You are also speaking of Claro, I imagine it is another cell company. Is that a work around for blocked phones or just easier to keep online?

BTW; its possible to change your IMEI, its just takes a little work. I'm considering doing this due to US taking IMEI for no apparent reason. Who wants government stalkers.

PolloNegro
10-01-18, 03:15
That was an odd reason to block the the whole IMEI and quite unheard of in other places. They should just make registration mandatory when selling sim card like anywhere else. So my cellphone will be useless in Colombia, once I leave the country and return unregistered after 30 days and I can't registered it online. What if you buy from another company? You are also speaking of Claro, I imagine it is another cell company. Is that a work around for blocked phones or just easier to keep online?

BTW; its possible to change your IMEI, its just takes a little work. I'm considering doing this due to US taking IMEI for no apparent reason. Who wants government stalkers.Number but I have ran into someone in Centro who does & they changed the IEMI number on my phone & it now works without any problem. Now if I can pay him to sell me the program or teach me how he did it! Pollo negro is out!

StripperMan
10-01-18, 04:44
That was an odd reason to block the the whole IMEI and quite unheard of in other places. They should just make registration mandatory when selling sim card like anywhere else. So my cellphone will be useless in Colombia, once I leave the country and return unregistered after 30 days and I can't registered it online. What if you buy from another company? You are also speaking of Claro, I imagine it is another cell company. Is that a work around for blocked phones or just easier to keep online?In Aug-17, I bought a Claro chip in Bogota from a small store in Chapinero for 10 k pesos. I did not have to register the chip, or show any ID whatsoever. I used that same chip on my second phone, an unblocked Motorola Moto E, on 4 separate trips to Colombia in the last 12 months. Not only did the chip not expire, the data package from my prior trip carried over on each new trip. My trips were spaced about 90 days apart.

Cheerfull
10-01-18, 12:19
If you stay at the Mansion you don't need to know Spanish. The women know why you are there. It is a gringo spot, the services are generally ok, But, from my understandng most of the girls there want 200 K to 250 K for a single pop. I will let someone else confirm that. I went there for a night once years ago just out of curiosity. I will not return as I found it to be overpriced and if you can speak Spanish, you have no reason to stay there.Was at the Mansion in August. Pricing varied from 180 to 250 COP or more, the lamer the gringo the more the girl makes. And the gringo needs to be entirely clear what he wants before walking into the bedroom with her or could end up disappointed. First visit to the Mansion since last year. The policia appeared on a number of occasions while there (a new development). Two types of cops, the neighborhood beat types out to shoot the shit and check out the babes and collect there tu sabes, and the other type of police all business looking for [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) girls. People from the adj buildings call police occasionally to report suspicious activity. All it takes is one slip up for the whole place to come crashing down, along with everyone in it. The local office workers do not like the Mansion there.

Argo1990
10-01-18, 13:34
Playing with the idea of coming to Medellin, Bogota or my usual destination Pattaya in December. Never been to Colombia before but I decided to tinder plus into the 2 stated cities and damn those girls look fine. My question is: would you recommend a solo trip to one of those cities for 2 weeks or should I stick with Pattaya?

I wouldn't mind Pattaya honestly but I am slowly getting bored of Asian girls and want to try something new.

My absolute priority would be to go for young 8+ kinda girls. Think that is a realistic expectation?

Fun Luvr
10-01-18, 17:17
Allow me to explain the cell phone game of Colombia to members of the board. ...I am not disputing that everything you write has happened to you, but it is not correct. Earlier this year, I gave a cellphone I bought on ebay to a friend and she registered it. I gave her a picture of the receipt from ebay, but I don't know if she needed it. The only identification on the receipt was the manufacturer and model. I registered my cellphone and all I needed was a copy of my passport.

I think the reason for requiring registration is to curtail the thief of cellphones. Once a phone has been reported stolen, it can't be registered by another person.

JjBee62
10-01-18, 17:25
In Aug-17, I bought a Claro chip in Bogota from a small store in Chapinero for 10 k pesos. I did not have to register the chip, or show any ID whatsoever. I used that same chip on my second phone, an unblocked Motorola Moto E, on 4 separate trips to Colombia in the last 12 months. Not only did the chip not expire, the data package from my prior trip carried over on each new trip. My trips were spaced about 90 days apart.In June of 17 my roommate broke her phone and Movistar told her repair would take 2 weeks. Went with her to Jumbo, picked up a new SIM, which was registered in her name, took it back to the apartment and stuck it in my old Motorola GSM phone. Worked fine. In August I broke my S7 edge. Went back to Jumbo, bought a new Claro SIM, to replace the Movistar SIM she had bought, took it home and stuck it in the Motorola and it worked no problem. Two weeks later I bought a Huawei Mate 9, which has 2 SIM slots. Put my old T Mobile SIM in one and my Claro SIM in the other. It continued to work fine on either SIM until I left at the end of March this year. The Motorola sat until February when a chica with a broken phone took it and put her Tigo SIM in it. It was still working 6 weeks later.

I confess, I don't know anything about cellphones in Colombia. I just know what worked for me.

SoberHans69
10-01-18, 18:16
I beg to differ. You say that as if they get their start in the big leagues. Nobody goes from playing stickball in their backyard straight to the major leagues. While others have disagreed, I have said time and time again that chicks in Pattaya, Thailand will start off at the $30 Soi 6 places that most guys go to and say all the chicks are undesirable. From there they move up the ladder to other venues.

The other day one regular poster said that he went into one of the most expensive places and saw a chick working there that he had fucked at one of the cheap places a couple years back.

But you would recommend the used rental car lot route? Wait until many people have rented them and dogged them out, then pick them up in the more popular venues when they are overpriced.I've fucked her before when she worked at Route 69 bar on soi 6.

One of the few Thai girls that made much of an effort in bed. Pretty face, big fake tits, decent ass but had stretch marks on her stomach.

After I'd come she said 'you forgot to fuck my ass' LOL.

TheBiller22
10-01-18, 18:56
I have so much to write about but so little time. In a nutshell:

Came here for 5 days. Banged 5 chicks. Due to a budget and unforeseen costs I had to limit the amount of leches I had. 2 Facebook chicks and 3 casa girls. I did several rounds on Veracruz but none really caught my eyes and honestly most looked down right dirty (just my opinion! Facebook girl #1 was a 6 but great attitude. Paid 80 k with video. Facebook #2 paid 100 k with video. Was easily a 9. Surprised she had a kid. Easily hottest mom I ever encountered, could never tell she had a baby and was relatively tight. First ever GF experience I've had. Definitely made me believe she was into me (probably was the money though). Casa girls was 4-8's. 8's seemed very unenthusiastic so I went with 3 7's that seemed much more into me. Video tip of 20 and 30 k. Not really my style but hey when in Rome.

Dishonorable mention: Had a Facebook chica (I think) come over that tried to pass for the girl on her page. Somehow they looked similar yet the girl in the pics was a 8 and the actual girl was a 1. I should've sent her back when she got out the taxi but I was caught so off guard and needed some time to man up LOL. Signed her in and had to pay a surprising 80 k (didn't find out until later). Got to the elevator and told her she was not the same chick. She insisted she was but I decided to pass. Gave 10 pesos and told her to go home. She had a deep voice. I wouldn't be surprised she was a he.

Back to the hotel. I would not recommend hotel San Fernando plaza in El Poblado. To my point above, they charge 89 k for any additional person not registered when you check in. That was more than my room alone!

Smoothy
10-01-18, 19:16
The local office workers do not like the Mansion there.They are just jealous.

Horny Goats
10-01-18, 21:01
To each, his own, but I know Pattaya and I prefer Medellin (and Bogota, too) much more than Pattaya. I prefer Latinas anyway, but if you say you're getting bored, why no try something new? The scene in Medellin is amazing: the women are much more sensuous in my experience, much more varied as far as looks, and it's a world-class city to boot. You should have no problem finding 8+ girls no matter what your personal scale is, and Tinder is only the (most expensive, least effective) tip of the iceberg here.


Playing with the idea of coming to Medellin, Bogota or my usual destination Pattaya in December. Never been to Colombia before but I decided to tinder plus into the 2 stated cities and damn those girls look fine. My question is: would you recommend a solo trip to one of those cities for 2 weeks or should I stick with Pattaya?

I wouldn't mind Pattaya honestly but I am slowly getting bored of Asian girls and want to try something new.

My absolute priority would be to go for young 8+ kinda girls. Think that is a realistic expectation?

Fun Luvr
10-01-18, 22:34
Playing with the idea of coming to Medellin, Bogota or my usual destination Pattaya in December. Never been to Colombia before but I decided to tinder plus into the 2 stated cities and damn those girls look fine. My question is: would you recommend a solo trip to one of those cities for 2 weeks or should I stick with Pattaya?

I wouldn't mind Pattaya honestly but I am slowly getting bored of Asian girls and want to try something new.

My absolute priority would be to go for young 8+ kinda girls. Think that is a realistic expectation?Personally, I prefer Latinas over Asians in looks. If I was blind-folded, performance in bed from the Colombianas and the Asians is similar. There are good and not-so-good in both cultures. There are plenty of young ladies available in Colombia. An 8+ can only be determined by your own eyes.

For me, if everything in the two places was equal, I would look at travel time. If you decide on Colombia, I suggest the first week in Medellin and the second in Bogota.

PolloNegro
10-01-18, 22:50
I am not disputing that everything you write has happened to you, but it is not correct. Earlier this year, I gave a cellphone I bought on ebay to a friend and she registered it. I gave her a picture of the receipt from ebay, but I don't know if she needed it. The only identification on the receipt was the manufacturer and model. I registered my cellphone and all I needed was a copy of my passport.

I think the reason for requiring registration is to curtail the thief of cellphones. Once a phone has been reported stolen, it can't be registered by another person.Is a factura, it shows proof of purchase. So if you try to register one without that receipt / factura. Good luck. But do you know how many phones I have without a receipt. . sometimes it just pays for me to not post. Without your receipt / factura, it will be impossible to register a outside the country phone. Without a cédula, forget registering the phone at all! Pollo negro is out!

PolloNegro
10-01-18, 22:53
In Aug-17, I bought a Claro chip in Bogota from a small store in Chapinero for 10 k pesos. I did not have to register the chip, or show any ID whatsoever. I used that same chip on my second phone, an unblocked Motorola Moto E, on 4 separate trips to Colombia in the last 12 months. Not only did the chip not expire, the data package from my prior trip carried over on each new trip. My trips were spaced about 90 days apart.Claro seems to be the safest route to go. Tigo, will definitely block your phone, your sim choice was a wise one!

ThisIsARandom
10-01-18, 23:37
My friend matched with a hottie from Tinder and invited her back home.

She offered to make him a drink and he agreed. After this he don't remember more. She literally rinsed our entire apartment. MacBook, iPhone X, cash, credit cards and ID cards. Never trust a hoe to make a drink Be safe and don't trust tinder girls like my friend did.

JamesPearle
10-02-18, 00:07
Since you teased it a little bit. What do you rank as the most effective option?


To each, his own, but I know Pattaya and I prefer Medellin (and Bogota, too) much more than Pattaya. I prefer Latinas anyway, but if you say you're getting bored, why no try something new? The scene in Medellin is amazing: the women are much more sensuous in my experience, much more varied as far as looks, and it's a world-class city to boot. You should have no problem finding 8+ girls no matter what your personal scale is, and Tinder is only the (most expensive, least effective) tip of the iceberg here.

JamesPearle
10-02-18, 00:21
Can someone describe exactly how this works?

You create a fake profile, upload 1 or 2 (real?) photos to the profile, then start friending random girls who live in Medellin who look hot, then ask them if they are hoes and. If so. How much they charge for CIM? I'm sure it can't be this simple.


I have so much to write about but so little time. In a nutshell:

Came here for 5 days. Banged 5 chicks. Due to a budget and unforeseen costs I had to limit the amount of leches I had. 2 Facebook chicks and 3 casa girls. I did several rounds on Veracruz but none really caught my eyes and honestly most looked down right dirty (just my opinion! Facebook girl #1 was a 6 but great attitude. Paid 80 k with video. Facebook #2 paid 100 k with video. Was easily a 9. Surprised she had a kid. Easily hottest mom I ever encountered, could never tell she had a baby and was relatively tight. First ever GF experience I've had. Definitely made me believe she was into me (probably was the money though). Casa girls was 4-8's. 8's seemed very unenthusiastic so I went with 3 7's that seemed much more into me. Video tip of 20 and 30 k. Not really my style but hey when in Rome.

TheBiller22
10-02-18, 01:27
Can someone describe exactly how this works?

You create a fake profile, upload 1 or 2 (real?) photos to the profile, then start friending random girls who live in Medellin who look hot, then ask them if they are hoes and. If so. How much they charge for CIM? I'm sure it can't be this simple.Actually you pretty much nailed it, however I wouldn't ask if they are hoes from the get go. The way I've done it is have a casual conversation at first and then casually ask how much would she charge for you to see her. Negotiate from there on the price and what's included. All this I've done over a course of a few days. Like others have said not all answer and not all are prepagos. I met a few they weren't and I played it off. They still wanted to hang but unfortunately with limited time and money it wasn't possible.

Combo
10-02-18, 01:46
My friend matched with a hottie from Tinder and invited her back home.

She offered to make him a drink and he agreed. After this he don't remember more. She literally rinsed our entire apartment. MacBook, iPhone X, cash, credit cards and ID cards. Never trust a hoe to make a drink Be safe and don't trust tinder girls like my friend did.I'm sorry this happened, but it makes me wonder if people actually read this forum. There is some very good advice on here (and occasionally bad advice). One of the warnings most frequently offered is don't drink anything that's been out of your sight, even if for a few seconds.

Even reading through Trip Advisor will likely give you some of the same warnings.

Knowledge
10-02-18, 01:49
You can register a phone with any valid passport or a Colombian cedula. No phone purchase receipt is necessary. You don't even have to be in Colombia to register the phone; you can do it over the Internet from anywhere. You must know the IMEI (basically the serial number) of the phone you want to register.


Is a factura, it shows proof of purchase. So if you try to register one without that receipt / factura. Good luck. But do you know how many phones I have without a receipt. . sometimes it just pays for me to not post. Without your receipt / factura, it will be impossible to register a outside the country phone. Without a cdula, forget registering the phone at all! Pollo negro is out!

LubeFreely
10-02-18, 02:48
Can someone describe exactly how this works?

You create a fake profile, upload 1 or 2 (real?) photos to the profile, then start friending random girls who live in Medellin who look hot, then ask them if they are hoes and. If so. How much they charge for CIM? I'm sure it can't be this simple.I am headed to Medellin at the end of the month. Like the gentleman above, I also need some coaching up on the facebook game. I have searched, but found little. What are the initial search terms input to facebook search. I have tried several. Please PM me some starter chicas pages. I am not asking for your best, just some starters, Then I mine my own from their friends and replies. I am particularly interested in MHM with university talent. Thanks in advance. I swear I will report.

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Mr Enternational
10-02-18, 02:51
I'm sorry this happened, but it makes me wonder if people actually read this forum. There is some very good advice on here (and occasionally bad advice). One of the warnings most frequently offered is don't drink anything that's been out of your sight, even if for a few seconds.

Even reading through Trip Advisor will likely give you some of the same warnings.Read this forum? Makes me wonder if people have ever left their house! I guess I get it though. If guys aren't used to women and they get the little head thinking in place of the big head when someone shows them some type of attention, then they are subject to do anything.

PolloNegro
10-02-18, 04:23
You can register a phone with any valid passport or a Colombian cedula. No phone purchase receipt is necessary. You don't even have to be in Colombia to register the phone; you can do it over the Internet from anywhere. You must know the IMEI (basically the serial number) of the phone you want to register.But at one point you must swap sim cards or have an international plan on an American company's system. It all sounds nice until you arrive here in Medellin without an unlocked foreign phone and attempt to use it. Good luck walking into any official tigo store & officially registering a phone with an American passport. You can buy sim cards at any tigo carrier, but after 30 days, they will block the phone. I can assure you this! Pollonegro is out!

TimeKeeper281
10-02-18, 05:50
Can someone describe exactly how this works?

You create a fake profile, upload 1 or 2 (real?) photos to the profile, then start friending random girls who live in Medellin who look hot, then ask them if they are hoes and. If so. How much they charge for CIM? I'm sure it can't be this simple.Create an alternate profile for yourself. Do a little research on girls that are known and open prepagos. Start a convo, then ask for a cita. They will say a number, ask what is included, then bargain. Try a few below. I spent 2 months building mine before my first trip. I literally have a spreadsheet. If they don't respond on facebook, try instagram.

https://www.facebook.com/yisela.restrepo.52

https://www.facebook.com/enlly.alvarezii

https://www.facebook.com/has.leal.90

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10-02-18, 09:14
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JjBee62
10-02-18, 14:51
Read this forum? Makes me wonder if people have ever left their house! I guess I get it though. If guys aren't used to women and they get the little head thinking in place of the big head when someone shows them some type of attention, then they are subject to do anything.You invite a hooker to your apartment a she offers to make you a drink? You hired a hooker, not a bartender. If your alarm bells aren't going off, then the best thing that can happen is you get robbed. At least it will help others be smarter.

Horny Goats
10-02-18, 16:00
Since you teased it a little bit. What do you rank as the most effective option?Depends on what you're looking for. What do you like about Pattaya specifically?

There is a lot of good advice (and warnings) about Tinder and Facebook and other platforms as far as establishing some contacts before you arrive. I live here, but my experience has been that these have been more expensive and less dependable. And they take a lot of work, although the work can be kind of fun, especially if you're prepping for a vacation.

If you want to immediately get into the action, go to a place like Energy where you'll get a lineup of talent and can choose your personal 8+. Five minutes later you'll both be naked.

If you want to establish a little chemistry first, go to one of the Centro clubs: Conejitas, Barra Executiva, or Maracaibo. (All of these are on the shared map. Hopefully you've discovered that already).

If you want company outside of the clubs, my favorite method is meeting a girl at a club, developing chemistry, sessioning, and then seeing if she wants to continue outside as a short-term or long-term GF. I've found that most are interested. Plus, you've already developed chemistry, and they're usually cheaper than Tinder / FB / etc.

If you have experience in Pattaya, nothing should be too intimidating as far as El Centro. Be smart and you'll be fine.

Go nuts with Tinder and FB as you prepare for your trip. But also try the strategies above, and I'll bet you post afterwards that you had more success on the ground.

PolloNegro
10-02-18, 17:16
You can register a phone with any valid passport or a Colombian cedula. No phone purchase receipt is necessary. You don't even have to be in Colombia to register the phone; you can do it over the Internet from anywhere. You must know the IMEI (basically the serial number) of the phone you want to register.I received this text from claro, it says: "Because Your equipment is not approved in Colombia. It will be blocked in 45 calendar days if it is not homologated. If you bought it in Colombia, complain to the equipment vendor! " I can't make this stuff up, pollonegro is out!

Horny Goats
10-02-18, 17:31
Video tip of 20 and 30 k. When you say "video tip," are you talking about a short clip of the chicas or recording the whole session? Just curious.

Quagmire1974
10-02-18, 17:53
I am headed to Medellin at the end of the month. Like the gentleman above, I also need some coaching up on the facebook game. I have searched, but found little. What are the initial search terms input to facebook search. I have tried several. Please PM me some starter chicas pages. I am not asking for your best, just some starters, Then I mine my own from their friends and replies. I am particularly interested in MHM with university talent. Thanks in advance. I swear I will report.Swear, huh? And yet, according to your post history on ISG, you were in Tijuana from May 31 to June 4. Nope, no trip report written by you on your experience. And now you are begging for help for Medellin?

TheCarlAnthony
10-02-18, 22:44
Can someone describe exactly how this works?

You create a fake profile, upload 1 or 2 (real?) photos to the profile, then start friending random girls who live in Medellin who look hot, then ask them if they are hoes and. If so. How much they charge for CIM? I'm sure it can't be this simple.Simple. Look up "La Vane Restrepo" and "Pablo Medina". Lighter toned guy with a orange hat on. Friend Request them and look at their friends list. Filled the damn brim with hookers and even non pros that want to fuck for free if you look as good as I do hahaha. Take one hour and friend request every single girl that catches your eye. I wouldn't go as far as actually opening the profile in depth. Could be a huge waste of time because a lot of them will not accept you because you have 10 friends and appear to be someone spying on them. Some will. Then look at her friends. You can have z full list in 5 days once they start accepting. Now. Once they accept you want yo look for certain red flags to determine if she is a pro, semi pro, or regular girl that will fuck for free if you look as good as me hahahahaha. 1. Does she have any nakedish pictures laying in her bed. If so pro! Does she have pictures of her body only. No head in the picture. Just he ass, vagina or tits. Pro or semi pro! Here's a clear one. Does she have pictures of her looking amazing. But she put an emoji over her face. Pro / semi pro! Those are usually on their escort site also where their faces are blocked out. They just brought them over to facebook. She's got a double life for sure. Message her. If she responds with "amor" she either likes you or. Pro / semi pro. She flirting either way. Don't get hung up on the amor response as that could lead you astray but the other 3 are tell-tale signs! If her pictures are only of her and she foesnt tag her hot friends it's for a reason. She doesn't want you lurking to them and her losing business. Or it's not her real account. It's her semi pro account. Her "real account" will have her real friends and tags etc etc. This slutbox account won't. Only friends she will tag are the girls she slutboxes around with on Saturday nights. Also. Look at her wall. Only pictures of her looking sexy. No post about anything else at all. This is her sulutbox account. Bottom line is look at her friends you'll start to notice a few guys that are most of the pages friendslist. If it says you and fat william have 27 friends in common, and your only chasing hot Colombian prostitutes. Most likely so is he! Friend request his ass too. Then tear his friends list apart. And then figure out a way to look like me so you can get the dime non pros who pretend like they are only "doing studies". Well I'm studying that ass baby LOL! My messages inbox is scary long. More women than I can fit in one trip and it's not because of my looks sadly. I look great guy wise but really.

I just figured out a method to put myself in their fb world. The problem is that when I started messaging them I just came on as attracted to them. 1 out of every 10 would say she has sex as a job. The rest seem to wait until you bring it up. After chit chatting I then ask to to take it to whatsapp. You now have their direct number. Look at her picture there. Probably some head shot with their tits bursting everywhere LOL another red flag you got one. Now I have 26 girls on whatsapp that I message daily. And I can't even count the Facebook messages. I gain one a day and lose 10 due to no activity. Sometimes I send them all the exact same message and even I their responses. If one falls to the bottom of my list I go scoop her back up later with a how beautiful she is message. These chicks are vain and telling them how exotic they look always works and gets you a gracias papi or bebe or amor. Once your on whatsapp they seem to feel a lot less public than fb and the prices will come orrrrrr the naked pictures and possible free sex. Hopefully this helps that one guy that needed a "different method".

Wish I had a good exit like Pollo Negro Out.

Itzdpk
10-02-18, 23:03
Hey everyone,

Thanks for all the informative posts here. My friend and I are headed to Medellin the second week of October and your posts have been of immense help to plan the trip. I have PM-ed some of you and thanks for all the great suggestions. I have been trying the facebook route and have started talking to a few chicas. Have any of you spend time with the below two of them. Two of the pics are of Luisa and two of the others are of Jiminez. Would love to know your experience. Want to line up appointment before we land.

Let me know if any of you are in town from 12th to the 15th of Oct. Would love to catch up.

Thanks.

Knowledge
10-03-18, 02:09
Go to claro.com.co, follow the links to mobile and register the phone with your passport and the phone number of your Claro SIM. The bit about a receipt pertains to phones purchased in Colombia. Your IMEI will indicate to Claro whether the phone was purchased in Colombia or not. Good luck.


I received this text from claro, it says: "Because Your equipment is not approved in Colombia. It will be blocked in 45 calendar days if it is not homologated. If you bought it in Colombia, complain to the equipment vendor! " I can't make this stuff up, pollonegro is out!

Knowledge
10-03-18, 02:13
OK, whatever you say. Good luck.


But at one point you must swap sim cards or have an international plan on an American company's system. It all sounds nice until you arrive here in Medellin without an unlocked foreign phone and attempt to use it. Good luck walking into any official tigo store & officially registering a phone with an American passport. You can buy sim cards at any tigo carrier, but after 30 days, they will block the phone. I can assure you this! Pollonegro is out!

Balimassage
10-03-18, 04:57
Hey everyone,

Thanks for all the informative posts here. My friend and I are headed to Medellin the second week of October and your posts have been of immense help to plan the trip. I have PM-ed some of you and thanks for all the great suggestions. I have been trying the facebook route and have started talking to a few chicas. Have any of you spend time with the below two of them. Two of the pics are of Luisa and two of the others are of Jiminez. Would love to know your experience. Want to line up appointment before we land.

Let me know if any of you are in town from 12th to the 15th of Oct. Would love to catch up.

Thanks.These are my favorite kind of posts. There are literally thousands of chicks selling themselves here. Wny do people post pics and ask "Does anyone know these girls?" It's almost impossible. Even going to a place like New Life, they probably have 50 chicks working there. When the lineup comes through, I can't even remember their names to pick one.

Is there any example on this forum or any other of anyone recognizing anyone?

Good luck and happy hunting!

Balimassage
10-03-18, 05:09
Allow me to explain the cell phone game of Colombia to members of the board. If you turn on a Cell Phone in Colombia using Tigo, you have 30 days to register it or Tigo puts a permanent block on the IEMI number, then the phone is useless in Colombia, trust me, I've been through the fiasco of trying to get my phone unblocked by the official Tigo office. Foreigners cannot register phones in Colombia without a Cedula. Pollo negro is out!There is a way easier solution. I buy this Three-UK SIM card off Amazon and it has free roaming in 70 different countries, including all of Europe and of course Colombia. It's 12 GB for $45 valid for one year, which works out to about $3/ GB which I think is cheaper than here if you buy local. You don't get local SMS or calling but everyone has whatsapp so who cares. Pop it in, and you're good to go. Works in USA as well if you need backup data (it's nice because you can pick your provider in case of bad signal). I use about 3-5 gb per month.

https://amzn.to/2IAt3pZ

Activation is as easy as popping it into your unlocked phone.

I pop it in during my flight, and when I land, I'm just as cool as everyone who flips on their phones right when they land, to let all the ladies know I'm officially here. .

Best travel item I've bought all year.

Itzdpk
10-03-18, 05:32
These are my favorite kind of posts. There are literally thousands of chicks selling themselves here. Wny do people post pics and ask "Does anyone know these girls?" It's almost impossible. Even going to a place like New Life, they probably have 50 chicks working there. When the lineup comes through, I can't even remember their names to pick one.

Is there any example on this forum or any other of anyone recognizing anyone?

Good luck and happy hunting!Hey Chill brother,

If you don't remember that's fine. Someone else in this forum might have been with these girls and they might remember how good or bad the experience was. If not that's fine too. I have come across loads of examples on this forum and others where people have commented on their experience with a particular girl. Isn't the whole point of a forum like this to share and receive feedback?

JjBee62
10-03-18, 12:02
These are my favorite kind of posts. There are literally thousands of chicks selling themselves here. Wny do people post pics and ask "Does anyone know these girls?" It's almost impossible. Even going to a place like New Life, they probably have 50 chicks working there. When the lineup comes through, I can't even remember their names to pick one.

Is there any example on this forum or any other of anyone recognizing anyone?

Good luck and happy hunting!C'mon. Now. What are the chances there could be more than 1 Luisa or Jimenez in Medellin?

It really doesn't matter if anyone recognizes them. All he can learn is what their experience was like. He might look like Ozuna and the guy who had the terrible experience looks like Jabba. The guy who had a great time might be the world's greatest lover, while this guy needs a map to find the pussy.

I know 1 girl who got a lukewarm review from 1 guy, 2 fantastic reviews and 1 great review. Then another guy, given all the information about her, and he's desperate for a good session, can't get her to come over, because he thinks he can insult her and get her for half price. After complaining to me she warned all her friends.

What it boils down to is YMMV. How you connect with the girls depends on you.

Starlord1
10-03-18, 12:27
There is a way easier solution. I buy this Three-UK SIM card off Amazon and it has free roaming in 70 different countries, including all of Europe and of course Colombia. It's 12 GB for $45 valid for one year, which works out to about $3/ GB which I think is cheaper than here if you buy local. You don't get local SMS or calling but everyone has whatsapp so who cares. Pop it in, and you're good to go. Works in USA as well if you need backup data (it's nice because you can pick your provider in case of bad signal). I use about 3-5 gb per month.

https://amzn.to/2IAt3pZ

Activation is as easy as popping it into your unlocked phone.

I pop it in during my flight, and when I land, I'm just as cool as everyone who flips on their phones right when they land, to let all the ladies know I'm officially here. .

Best travel item I've bought all year.This was some very good advice. They have an Asian sim as well. Only issue is I didn't see Dominican Republic on the list. So maybe I have to find something else but for now it will work perfect for my trip.

JjBee62
10-03-18, 13:06
Simple. Look up "La Vane Restrepo" and "Pablo Medina". Lighter toned guy with a orange hat on. Friend Request them and look at their friends list. Filled the damn brim with hookers and even non pros that want to fuck for free if you look as good as I do hahaha. Take one hour and friend request every single girl that catches your eye. I wouldn't go as far as actually opening the profile in depth. Could be a huge waste of time because a lot of them will not accept you because you have 10 friends and appear to be someone spying on them. Some will. Then look at her friends. You can have z full list in 5 days once they start accepting. Now..I call the profiles you described "Bobo bait. " Just a few sexy pics, no real content. You'll find quite a few are fake profiles. Some are trolls, some are pimps, some are girls who don't look as good as the photos. Some are angry ex Western Union novios and the rest are long time pros and the pics are rarely current.

I rarely waste my time with them. I'll make an exception if a select few people are mutual friends. In my opinion, the time to do research is before you click the "add friend" button, not after. Then again, it all depends on what you're looking for. If your selection criteria is 1. Do I like her pics? 2. Will she come over and fuck me? And 3. Is the price right?, then it doesn't matter.

I look for more substance. First, I try to determine her age. I remember 1 girl some guy had raved about, 18, fantastic, did everything. Three weeks earlier she had posted pics of her 15th birthday party. Pass. Next, I decide if she's available. That's a little more complicated than "does she have sexy pictures?" Every Colombiana has sexy pictures. It's the national pastime. I also take a look at her family situation. Kids? Boyfriends? Dogs? Overly possessive lesbian girlfriends? It doesn't matter to me, except I don't want to be the guy killed by a 250# lesbian for stealing her girl.

If she passes my tests, I'll send the friend request and forget about her. If she accepts, about half will immediately send a message. From there it's just a matter of who I want and when I want them.

As for sending friend requests to fellow mongers, good luck. I only accept people who I know and get along with.

The Tall Man
10-03-18, 15:24
These are my favorite kind of posts. There are literally thousands of chicks selling themselves here. Wny do people post pics and ask "Does anyone know these girls?" It's almost impossible. Even going to a place like New Life, they probably have 50 chicks working there. When the lineup comes through, I can't even remember their names to pick one.

Is there any example on this forum or any other of anyone recognizing anyone?

Good luck and happy hunting!Ditto this statement, hell the photos that the original poster posted and the girls are literally dime a dozen, not bragging but to the OP in the past week alone I have partied with 5 or 6 girls who resemble your photos very closely, so the best advice is to simply jump inti the game head first, have fun!

The Tall Man.

TheBiller22
10-03-18, 16:22
When you say "video tip," are you talking about a short clip of the chicas or recording the whole session? Just curious.Whole session.

Knowledge
10-03-18, 20:24
But what if I can tell you the chica's name is "Tatiana"? Does that make it easier to identify her? LOL!

Seriously, you are 100% right. To be fair, guys asking that question don't probably spend enough time in country to realize how hard it is to separate one facebook chica from another. Even if their weight and hairdos didn't change as often as they do it would be difficult.


Ditto this statement, hell the photos that the original poster posted and the girls are literally dime a dozen, not bragging but to the OP in the past week alone I have partied with 5 or 6 girls who resemble your photos very closely, so the best advice is to simply jump inti the game head first, have fun!

The Tall Man.

TimeKeeper281
10-04-18, 00:53
I call the profiles you described "Bobo bait. " Just a few sexy pics, no real content. You'll find quite a few are fake profiles. Some are trolls, some are pimps, some are girls who don't look as good as the photos. Some are angry ex Western Union novios and the rest are long time pros and the pics are rarely current.

I rarely waste my time with them. I'll make an exception if a select few people are mutual friends. In my opinion, the time to do research is before you click the "add friend" button, not after. Then again, it all depends on what you're looking for. If your selection criteria is 1. Do I like her pics? 2. Will she come over and fuck me? And 3. Is the price right?, then it doesn't matter.

I look for more substance. First, I try to determine her age. I remember 1 girl some guy had raved about, 18, fantastic, did everything. Three weeks earlier she had posted pics of her 15th birthday party. Pass. Next, I decide if she's available. That's a little more complicated than "does she have sexy pictures?" Every Colombiana has sexy pictures. It's the national pastime. I also take a look at her family situation. Kids? Boyfriends? Dogs? Overly possessive lesbian girlfriends? It doesn't matter to me, except I don't want to be the guy killed by a 250# lesbian for stealing her girl.

If she passes my tests, I'll send the friend request and forget about her. If she accepts, about half will immediately send a message. From there it's just a matter of who I want and when I want them.

As for sending friend requests to fellow mongers, good luck. I only accept people who I know and get along with.I can confirm that the guy in the orange hat and I have over 100 friends in common and I have never seen any girls through Vane. So they are the girls, not some fake profiles. You don't even need to add the guy.

Lucky Nuts
10-04-18, 05:10
Hey everyone,

Thanks for all the informative posts here. My friend and I are headed to Medellin the second week of October and your posts have been of immense help to plan the trip. I have PM-ed some of you and thanks for all the great suggestions. I have been trying the facebook route and have started talking to a few chicas. Have any of you spend time with the below two of them. Two of the pics are of Luisa and two of the others are of Jiminez. Would love to know your experience. Want to line up appointment before we land.

Let me know if any of you are in town from 12th to the 15th of Oct. Would love to catch up.

Thanks.Yeah dude I know both chicas. Weird though that you are asking about a pair of sisters. Xime (I think she uses Jenny) has been a solid provider for several years and has a good rep. Her little sister Luisa just got her cedula last fall so she's 19 or very close to it now. She's a real flaca and tries hard to please too. Beware she acts sorta "homeless" and will eat / drink absolutely everything within reach. No joke. Neither made my repeat list but they are decent enough providers. Good luck.

https://www.facebook.com/jennyfer.agudelojimenez

https://www.facebook.com/mariajuliana.jimenezpalacios?ref=br_rs

Cm6363
10-04-18, 06:26
I'm flying into MDE separate from a buddy. One of us is arriving on an international flight and the other is arriving on a domestic LATAM flight. Can anyone please recommend a can't miss place for one of us to sit until the other arrives. It is a toss up who will be ready first with a half hour extra available for passport control.

Thanks!

Cm6363
10-04-18, 07:51
What's the going rate for a Facebook or Tinder chica to the room for 1 or 2 hours? (1 or 2 times?

Thanks gents.

Bleble
10-04-18, 08:03
190 k for 40 minutes. The girls here are more natural than la Isla (most of whom are enhanced). Lady drinks here are 24 k compared to 30 k at la Isla. All Drinks and bottles are cheaper too. Overall Fase dos seems like a better option.

Pokeris
10-04-18, 08:37
What's the going rate for a Facebook or Tinder chica to the room for 1 or 2 hours? (1 or 2 times?

Thanks gents.Most of them asking between 150-250 mil pesos and taxi money. I suggest don't pay more than 150 mil.

Jimmy Boy 99
10-04-18, 12:06
There is a way easier solution. I buy this Three-UK SIM card off Amazon and it has free roaming in 70 different countries, including all of Europe and of course Colombia. It's 12 GB for $45 valid for one year, which works out to about $3/ GB which I think is cheaper than here if you buy local. You don't get local SMS or calling but everyone has whatsapp so who cares. Pop it in, and you're good to go. Works in USA as well if you need backup data (it's nice because you can pick your provider in case of bad signal). I use about 3-5 gb per month.

https://amzn.to/2IAt3pZ

Activation is as easy as popping it into your unlocked phone.

I pop it in during my flight, and when I land, I'm just as cool as everyone who flips on their phones right when they land, to let all the ladies know I'm officially here. .

Best travel item I've bought all year.You gave the wrong website. The website states explicitly that it is only for unlocked 3 G or 4 G tablets, dongle, and Mobile Wi-Fi devices. Further, in the Customer Questions and Answers section, it states explicitly that it cannot be used for phones. Also, Columbia is not one the countries listed as available.

The website for the product you are talking about is https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FI1JW72. This SIM card is for cell phones, works in Colombia, is 12 GB but is only valid for 30 days.

RmblinMan
10-04-18, 15:25
I have been reading everyone's posts for a while without ever getting the opportunity to visit Colombia. I have travelled often for business, but this is my first mongering trip ever. I will be going to Medellin and Cartagena this year and I have a couple of questions my research has not answered. My current fascination is with rimjobs and prostate massage in conjunction with the the usual activities. Are these something that most working girls will agree to or am I setting myself up for disappointment? Should I expect to pay extra and how much? Also I saw a post that indicated a 20 k to 30 k tip is required for video. Is this correct?

For background, I am an American in my 50's a little overweight, but dress and present well. I do not have the time and skill for fb approach, but have used whatsapp when in China. My Spanish is weak, but I speak fluent google translate. I prefer to take a girl for an hour or two back to my place or to a clean love hotel. I expect that due to my outdated "game" and age I will be getting girls from the street and casas, not from pickup. I don't mind spending some money, but I want to get good value for what I spend. Also I will be spending some time on tourist activity.

I appreciate whatever advice anyone wants to give in general, but am especially looking for advice on my specific concerns.

Thanks in advance, and thanks to all of you that post so those of us that rarely get off the leash can live vicariously.

The Ramblin Man.

El Mechanico
10-04-18, 16:11
Xime (I think she uses Jenny) has been a solid provider for several years and has a good rep. Her little sister Luisa just got her cedula last fall so she's 19 or very close to it now. She's a real flaca and tries hard to please too. Beware she acts sorta "homeless" and will eat / drink absolutely everything within reach. No joke. Sessioned & repeated with both in Dec 2017. Both awesome providers. Luisa complained about me being 'to big' which never happens so she was a bit timid, but like Lucky pointed out, she just got her CEDULA. Her BD is early September (she is 19 y1 m now) so she had only been in the game for a few months when I met her. Very polite, kinda shy but 2 great sessions! Xime has one of the finest asses I've ever seen and is an awesome provider as well. Repeated with Xime 2 X in July and she did not dissapoint. Both very beautiful Piasas, on time & great providers. Xime got 200 kcop & Luisa got 150 kcop + chips + beer + candy bars + Baileys. Jajajaja. IMO, you cannot go wrong with either.

El Mechanico.

Duncan216
10-04-18, 16:13
Most of them asking between 150-250 mil pesos and taxi money. I suggest don't pay more than 150 mil.What's are they asking for all nights or multiple days (like 3 days)? How much do you add in for taxi and do they tell you up front or after they arrive?

Sangnyc21
10-04-18, 16:31
What's the going rate for a Facebook or Tinder chica to the room for 1 or 2 hours? (1 or 2 times?

Thanks gents.150-250 depending on what you want. (anal, BBBJCIM, video etc.) also depends on how hot the girl is I noticed the ones in high demand won't budge off 250.

JanuaryNineth
10-04-18, 17:16
I tried taking out money from banco Colombia ATM. I have wells Fargo visa debit card. The ATM says transaction completed but never gives the money out. Does anyone know about this?

StripperMan
10-04-18, 20:17
I'm flying into MDE separate from a buddy. One of us is arriving on an international flight and the other is arriving on a domestic LATAM flight. Can anyone please recommend a can't miss place for one of us to sit until the other arrives. It is a toss up who will be ready first with a half hour extra available for passport control.

Thanks!The airport is pretty small so it won't be too hard deciding on a place to meet. Google Maps has interior views of MDE.

Wolf662
10-04-18, 20:48
I tried taking out money from banco Colombia ATM. I have wells Fargo visa debit card. The ATM says transaction completed but never gives the money out. Does anyone know about this?When I had that issue with Banco Colombia ATM it was my bank (Bank America) that was stopping the transactions. Be advised you can get a transaction fee for every time you try it also as I found out to my dismay.

I had posted a travel alert with them but they cut it off due to "suspicious transactions", IE me pulling money 2 or 3 times a day. They turned it on after my call and the 1/2 HR I was on hold on a holiday weekend.

We really need a new subsection for FAQ on ATMs, cellphones, taxis etc.

Zhagolo52
10-04-18, 22:17
Medellin is very different than any other mongering city in the world. I wold recommend you read back several pages in the forum as there is a lot of good information and inside into how to get chicas. I strongly recommend you get your FB game going a month or so before you hit the ground. It will make it much easier on you. They only place I would recommend pick up street girls is parque lleras and still no guarantee on service and that they won't have sticky fingers.

There is zero guarantee that the girls will let you take pics or video. Everything is possible for the right amount of $ and negotiation skills. Some chicas are good with english some will not speak a lick.

I would recommend stay at the deuchbag inn for a couple of days it is a great way to network with other mongers and chicas. after that it shouldn't be an issue at all.

Good luck.


I have been reading everyone's posts for a while without ever getting the opportunity to visit Colombia. I have travelled often for business, but this is my first mongering trip ever. I will be going to Medellin and Cartagena this year and I have a couple of questions my research has not answered. My current fascination is with rimjobs and prostate massage in conjunction with the the usual activities. Are these something that most working girls will agree to or am I setting myself up for disappointment? Should I expect to pay extra and how much? Also I saw a post that indicated a 20 k to 30 k tip is required for video. Is this correct?

For background, I am an American in my 50's a little overweight, but dress and present well. I do not have the time and skill for fb approach, but have used whatsapp when in China. My Spanish is weak, but I speak fluent google translate. I prefer to take a girl for an hour or two back to my place or to a clean love hotel. I expect that due to my outdated "game" and age I will be getting girls from the street and casas, not from pickup. I don't mind spending some money, but I want to get good value for what I spend. Also I will be spending some time on tourist activity.

I appreciate whatever advice anyone wants to give in general, but am especially looking for advice on my specific concerns.

Thanks in advance, and thanks to all of you that post so those of us that rarely get off the leash can live vicariously.

The Ramblin Man.

Husker Dude
10-04-18, 22:57
I tried taking out money from banco Colombia ATM. I have wells Fargo visa debit card. The ATM says transaction completed but never gives the money out. Does anyone know about this?Had a buddy earlier this year that had a Wells Fargo card & he had a hard time getting $ out of ATM's, even after he called them. He tried over a half dozen places & finally found one in the Sante fe Mall that took it. Don't remember the name except sign was in red.

Lefeu
10-05-18, 07:23
I tried taking out money from banco Colombia ATM. I have wells Fargo visa debit card. The ATM says transaction completed but never gives the money out. Does anyone know about this?I gave up on my Wells Fargo ATM card long ago, one of the worst card to travel with overseas. They even blocked me close to LAX airport once, trying to pump gas, due to so-called suspicious activity on my card, a bunch of balloney. Now, I use other cards, such as Schwab visa / ATM card, the best.

Lefeu
10-05-18, 07:28
Sessioned & repeated with both in Dec 2017. Both awesome providers. Luisa complained about me being 'to big' which never happens so she was a bit timid, but like Lucky pointed out, she just got her CEDULA. Her BD is early September (she is 19 y1 m now) so she had only been in the game for a few months when I met her. Very polite, kinda shy but 2 great sessions! Xime has one of the finest asses I've ever seen and is an awesome provider as well. Repeated with Xime 2 X in July and she did not dissapoint. Both very beautiful Piasas, on time & great providers. Xime got 200 kcop & Luisa got 150 kcop + chips + beer + candy bars + Baileys. Jajajaja. IMO, you cannot go wrong with either.

El Mechanico.Agree that both are good providers, but Jennifer (now Xime) is money hungry, and would do anything, say anything to get more money from you. One has to be careful around her and don't believe all the crap she pulls out. Her sister is slowly learning jen's ways as well, but for now she appears to be down to earth.

JeraldoRivera
10-05-18, 10:46
I have been reading everyone's posts for a while without ever getting the opportunity to visit Colombia. I have travelled often for business, but this is my first mongering trip ever. I will be going to Medellin and Cartagena this year and I have a couple of questions my research has not answered. My current fascination is with rimjobs and prostate massage in conjunction with the the usual activities. Are these something that most working girls will agree to or am I setting myself up for disappointment? Should I expect to pay extra and how much? Also I saw a post that indicated a 20 k to 30 k tip is required for video. Is this correct?

For background, I am an American in my 50's a little overweight, but dress and present well. I do not have the time and skill for fb approach, but have used whatsapp when in China. My Spanish is weak, but I speak fluent google translate. I prefer to take a girl for an hour or two back to my place or to a clean love hotel. I expect that due to my outdated "game" and age I will be getting girls from the street and casas, not from pickup. I don't mind spending some money, but I want to get good value for what I spend. Also I will be spending some time on tourist activity..Just use that google translate and tell them upfront you want them to eat your ass while they shuv a finger up it. IF they don't make weird faces or slap you chances are your good to go!

JjBee62
10-05-18, 12:16
she just got her CEDULA. Her BD is early September (she is 19 y1 m now) so she had only been in the game for a few months when I met her.When the girl gets her cedula has no relationship with how long she's been in the game. Chances are she already had at least 2 years of experience before you met her. That's 2 years paid experience. Most likely she put in a 2 to 3 year unpaid internship first.

SoberHans69
10-05-18, 16:00
Agree that both are good providers, but Jennifer (now Xime) is money hungry, and would do anything, say anything to get more money from you. One has to be careful around her and don't believe all the crap she pulls out. Her sister is slowly learning jen's ways as well, but for now she appears to be down to earth.Added both on Facebook yesterday and experienced the opposite.

Xime was straight forward and her sister tried to rip me off.

Knew straight away she was bullshitting me, asking me how long I was going to be there, my job etc.

She then said she was in a financial situation and wanted to charge me $400 LOL.

I laughed and said no, she said how much you want. I said I would have gave you 200 but changed my mind now. She quickly backed down but I told her to forget it.

Knowledge
10-05-18, 18:27
Forgive me if I am over simplifying this. What is wrong with presenting a passport at any mobile shop to buy a local SIM card? In addition to getting LTE data speeds instead of whatever throttled scheme the "world SIM" providers offer, local SIM cards offer free incoming calls. The per minute rate for outbound local and international calls is often more competitive than the world SIM deals. You need an unlocked phone. I think you also need an unlocked phone for the world SIMs.


You gave the wrong website. The website states explicitly that it is only for unlocked 3 G or 4 G tablets, dongle, and Mobile Wi-Fi devices. Further, in the Customer Questions and Answers section, it states explicitly that it cannot be used for phones. Also, Columbia is not one the countries listed as available.

The website for the product you are talking about is https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FI1JW72. This SIM card is for cell phones, works in Colombia, is 12 GB but is only valid for 30 days.

Fun Luvr
10-05-18, 20:35
I'm flying into MDE separate from a buddy. One of us is arriving on an international flight and the other is arriving on a domestic LATAM flight. Can anyone please recommend a can't miss place for one of us to sit until the other arrives. It is a toss up who will be ready first with a half hour extra available for passport control.

Thanks!The international and domestic arrival areas are on opposite ends of the terminal. I suggest you and your friend plan to meet outside the baggage claim area of one of the two.

Fun Luvr
10-05-18, 20:49
... I will be going to Medellin and Cartagena this year and I have a couple of questions my research has not answered. My current fascination is with rimjobs and prostate massage in conjunction with the the usual activities. Are these something that most working girls will agree to or am I setting myself up for disappointment? ...Whether or not you will be disappointed depends on where you find the working girls. If you go downtown and find some of the more homely ones or the glue / paint sniffers, you may get what you want. If you get the more attractive, up scale ladies from FB and the dating sites, you will have very little success satisfying your fascination.

El Mechanico
10-05-18, 23:44
She may have meant 400 KCOP which is about $130 which is still twice as much is you should pay Luisa!


Added both on Facebook yesterday and experienced the opposite.

Xime was straight forward and her sister tried to rip me off.

Knew straight away she was bullshitting me, asking me how long I was going to be there, my job etc.

She then said she was in a financial situation and wanted to charge me $400 LOL.

I laughed and said no, she said how much you want. I said I would have gave you 200 but changed my mind now. She quickly backed down but I told her to forget it.

Eszpresszo
10-05-18, 23:50
My current fascination is with rimjobs and prostate massage in conjunction with the the usual activities.
The Ramblin Man.I had a cute young Dominicana finger my prostate while giving me a BBBJ in Boca Chica. But, that's the DR and those women are the crack cocaine. I'm not suggesting you can't get it done in Colombia, nor am I suggesting that Dominicanas are preferable (they're not). But, my experience with the Colombianas is that they are a bit repulsed by jizz alone and I expect they won't be too receptive to anything up the rectum. But, I'm certain anything can be had at the right price. But, not necessarily with who you would prefer.

But, if you want your anus probed, Germany is another good destination. An actual German WG, which will typically be a freelancer or "Hobbyhure", is usually well geared towards anal activities, on your rectum if not on hers. Of course, there will be an extra charge for that. That's the German way. Its like a "Cafeteria Plan" with most of those girls.

Rimjobs? Its called the "Black Kiss" in Asia, and a common feature in massage parlors, and part of a regular routine in some places apparently. I did a trip report in the KL forum about such a place last March.

Now you are wondering why I am telling about these other places and not Medellin. Well, its because those are the places to go for those kind of kinks. Again, I'm not saying you couldn't find those things in MDE. But, my experience after visiting Bogota recently and Medellin a while back is that the girls working the casas have the most limited range of services, out of the six countries I've visited for punting. If your kinks are your priority, consider a different destination.

BTW, why do you call yourself RmblinMan, when by your own admission, you rarely get off the leash?

Wolf662
10-06-18, 01:43
Whether or not you will be disappointed depends on where you find the working girls. If you go downtown and find some of the more homely ones or the glue / paint sniffers, you may get what you want. If you get the more attractive, up scale ladies from FB and the dating sites, you will have very little success satisfying your fascination.I was surprised on my 2nd trip how cute one of the glue huffers in front of the church was, she was dressed nice and cute.

Cm6363
10-06-18, 05:23
Originally Posted by Cm6363
I'm flying into MDE separate from a buddy. One of us is arriving on an international flight and the other is arriving on a domestic LATAM flight. Can anyone please recommend a can't miss place for one of us to sit until the other arrives. It is a toss up who will be ready first with a half hour extra available for passport control.

Thanks!

The international and domestic arrival areas are on opposite ends of the terminal. I suggest you and your friend plan to meet outside the baggage claim area of one of the two.Thanks Fun Luvr, but neither one of us knows how long the other will have to wait. A half to an hour. Thus someplace to sit outside of baggage claim of the international area. Can anyone think of a particular spot? For example. There are benches or seats off to the _ side or a cafe / restaurant named _.

Thanks.

RobertTx
10-06-18, 06:09
International arrival is at gate #1. Its just one sliding door before you call the taxi, can't miss each other.

Puerta uno. (Gate one).

SoberHans69
10-06-18, 08:55
She may have meant 400 KCOP which is about $130 which is still twice as much is you should pay Luisa!Yeah you're probably right, either way too much.

West Fl Dude
10-06-18, 11:24
Thanks Fun Luvr, but neither one of us knows how long the other will have to wait. A half to an hour. Thus someplace to sit outside of baggage claim of the international area. Can anyone think of a particular spot? For example. There are benches or seats off to the _ side or a cafe / restaurant named _.

Thanks.Best place in my opinion would be to go out the airport and walk directly (a few traffic lanes) of across to the shopping and food court area. There, in air conditioned and less hectic space and on the second floor you can look across to the baggage area and have Wi-Fi. The second person merely goes to baggage claim walks out the door and across the way into the windows where the food court is. Coffee etc and is where if needed you can buy si, card.

IamLookin
10-06-18, 13:24
Near the juan valdez coffee shop. You can sit around that area and wait.


Thanks Fun Luvr, but neither one of us knows how long the other will have to wait. A half to an hour. Thus someplace to sit outside of baggage claim of the international area. Can anyone think of a particular spot? For example. There are benches or seats off to the _ side or a cafe / restaurant named _.

Thanks.

Fun Luvr
10-06-18, 14:22
Near the juan valdez coffee shop. You can sit around that area and wait.I don't think there is a Juan Valdez coffee shop on the first floor (arrivals area). There is one on the second floor. I've walked from the domestic area to the international area on the first floor only one time, and I don't remember any place that has seating.

Smoothy
10-06-18, 14:32
I have been reading everyone's posts for a while without ever getting the opportunity to visit Colombia. I have travelled often for business, but this is my first mongering trip ever. I will be going to Medellin and Cartagena this year and I have a couple of questions my research has not answered. My current fascination is with rimjobs and prostate massage in conjunction with the the usual activities. Are these something that most working girls will agree to or am I setting myself up for disappointment? Should I expect to pay extra and how much? I spent a week at the mansion in Medellin recently. I found that about half the girls rimmed without my even having to ask.

Combo
10-06-18, 16:52
I spent a week at the mansion in Medellin recently. I found that about half the girls rimmed without my even having to ask.Not my thing, but if you want rimming I suggest Brasil. I'd estimate half do it w/o request.

SankarShetty
10-06-18, 17:22
Hello Seniors,

This is my first time posting here at ISG. A should out to all the contributors and excellent reports by so many guys. An Indian guy living for the past decade in the states and planning a trip to Colombia for the first time. Previous mongering experiences include Philippines, Thailand, Tijuana multiple times. Never been to DR or any Latin American destinations.

My trip is coming up in 3 weeks:

My budget is usd1500 for 10 day trip for food and girls. I plan on about 2 one hour sessions per day. Is this reasonable expectations. I am only seeking strip clubs, casas, massage and street girls. If I have difficulty scoring, I may go with prepagos internet.

Since this is my first trip should I make a pit stop for a few days in Bogota? Routard trip report is too irresistible and makes it seem doable for a newbie like me.

I plan to stay in M1 for the first 2 nights and then pick one of the suggested hotels in the lists in El Centro for 7-8 days. Nada Spanish Zilch. The difficulties I would face picking up girls, speaking with uber or exchanging money or ordering food through domicilios or any of the normal things we do in day to day activities are things that I am prepared to face but. Would these be so great that I may not be able enjoy the trip?

Balimassage
10-06-18, 17:39
You gave the wrong website. The website states explicitly that it is only for unlocked 3 G or 4 G tablets, dongle, and Mobile Wi-Fi devices. Further, in the Customer Questions and Answers section, it states explicitly that it cannot be used for phones. Also, Columbia is not one the countries listed as available.

The website for the product you are talking about is https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FI1JW72. This SIM card is for cell phones, works in Colombia, is 12 GB but is only valid for 30 days.Nope, this link is correct.

https://amzn.to/2IAt3pZ

It works just fine in my iPhone, and yes it is only data. New countries are added all the time, and I assure you Colombia is on the list as this is the exact card I'm using. It has also worked fine in Hong Kong, USA, Canada, and Panama. The link you gave is the one month version of the same product, which I'm sure works fine, but the 12-month version is like having an unlimited world SIM in your pocket for a year. One year 12 GB is $50 data only. Your link, 30 days 12 GB is $30. If you need that much data per month then the $30 is cheaper. If you use about 1 GB / week traveling like I do, then the one year is awesome. I keep a backup handy too, never know when a Europe trip is going to pop up, and $3/ GB is cheaper than just about any local SIM I've ever used.

It also receives SMS's as I've used the number to activate various services that require a number.

IamLookin
10-06-18, 18:25
Yes on the second floor. There are spots to sit down around that area but not Valdez coffee stand. It is a small airport, I don't see the big deal here. You should be able to see each other quickly.


I don't think there is a Juan Valdez coffee shop on the first floor (arrivals area). There is one on the second floor. I've walked from the domestic area to the international area on the first floor only one time, and I don't remember any place that has seating.

Member #4736
10-06-18, 20:31
Nada Spanish Zilch. The difficulties I would face picking up girls, speaking with uber or exchanging money or ordering food through domicilios or any of the normal things we do in day to day activities are things that I am prepared to face but. Would these be so great that I may not be able enjoy the trip?Lack of Spanish skills will definitely play a big factor if you really want to enjoy the company of the beatuful women for couple of hours. It will be irritating / inconvenient to use G. Translate for every word. I faced this in CDMX and Bogota. If your goal is just sports f*ng like many in this forum, language should be a non factor and Santa Fe in Bogota fits the bill, cheap and women every where.

If you want to really enjoy the women with her company and some interaction, invest some money and time on SA, CC and facebook. There are some English speaking girls on these sites.

Betafin.

JjBee62
10-06-18, 22:52
Hello Seniors,

This is my first time posting here at ISG. A should out to all the contributors and excellent reports by so many guys. An Indian guy living for the past decade in the states and planning a trip to Colombia for the first time. Previous mongering experiences include Philippines, Thailand, Tijuana multiple times. Never been to DR or any Latin American destinations.

My trip is coming up in 3 weeks:

My budget is usd1500 for 10 day trip for food and girls. I plan on about 2 one hour sessions per day. Is this reasonable expectations. I am only seeking strip clubs, casas, massage and street girls. If I have difficulty scoring, I may go with prepagos internet.Is your $1500 budget only for food and girls, or does it also include lodging? In either case it's enough, although it will be a bit tight if hotel comes out of the $1500. This is because you'll spend 1/3 of your budget during your 2 nights at M1.

Given your budget, it's probably not worth a side trip to Bogota.

Now here's the problem I see. Planning 1 hour sessions with casa, strip club and street girls is really not the best bang for your buck. These girls are mostly used to 15 to 30 minute quickies. They aren't always going to give you much after the first 30 minutes. You'll end up paying for 20 or 30 minutes of girls just wasting time, almost every session. Mansion girls and Facebook girls are used to keeping guys entertained for an hour or more.

For every problem, there's a solution. During your time at M1 get every WhatsApp number you can. Get in a daytime 30 minute session at a casa or with a street girl, and get numbers from the best ones. Then use those numbers to get someone to your hotel at night.

GutsCasca
10-07-18, 03:19
Could someone please share where the original thread / post this picture came from? Thanks in advance!

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=230052&d=1445409115

Fun Luvr
10-07-18, 03:38
International arrival is at gate #1. Its just one sliding door before you call the taxi, can't miss each other.

Puerta uno. (Gate one).What are you talking about? I have been through that airport more than 50 times and I don't understand you. There are several international arrival gates. Passengers must go through immigration and customs after going through their arrival gate.

SankarShetty
10-07-18, 04:52
Lack of Spanish skills will definitely play a big factor if you really want to enjoy the company of the beatuful women for couple of hours. It will be irritating / inconvenient to use G. Translate for every word. I faced this in CDMX and Bogota. If your goal is just sports f*ng like many in this forum, language should be a non factor and Santa Fe in Bogota fits the bill, cheap and women every where.

If you want to really enjoy the women with her company and some interaction, invest some money and time on SA, CC and facebook. There are some English speaking girls on these sites.

Betafin.Unfortunately, I work full time and time is a huge constraint for me. Although, I am prepared to spend a bit higher and do not have exacting standards of GFE or PSE. An average sport f*ng session should be considered as a success notch for my trip report. I am more apprehensive about rip offs, scammers etc arising out of not knowing the language and hence being an easy mark.

SankarShetty
10-07-18, 05:12
Is your $1500 budget only for food and girls, or does it also include lodging? In either case it's enough, although it will be a bit tight if hotel comes out of the $1500. This is because you'll spend 1/3 of your budget during your 2 nights at M1.

Given your budget, it's probably not worth a side trip to Bogota..Wonderful suggestion about getting whatapp numbers. Any other tips would be much appreciated. Also, for various reasons, I am unable to invest time in Facebook, CC or SA before the trip.

My budget is only for food and drinks, doesn't include price for lodging. The reason I am mulling a side trip to Bogota is because some trip reports indicate without facebook, SA and CC, there may not be much success for a newbie without Spanish skills in the bars or casas in el centro.

Perhaps I might have better luck in Santa Fe.

Also, when they say 30 minutes, does it mean strict 30 minutes even if one has not finished the deed?

In most places (read Tijuana, Pattaya) 30 minutes gives you a complete ride and sometimes the ride may take 40 minutes or 20 minutes depending on several circumstances and camaraderie with the lady in question.

Of the 10 days, I am planning to do 2-3 days of M1 and 3 days of some place in Poblado and the last 3 days in Hotel Botero in Centro, primarily because that is where the action is and I do not to do too many taxis or uber because of the inability to converse with the drivers in Spanish.

Is Botero a strictly no go for a newbie or Spanish virgin?

Are there any other alternatives?

Horny Goats
10-07-18, 14:42
Been seeing a number of posts about this, and I figure I'd share my experience.

I knew nothing about the rules / laws here when I purchased a SIM card at Claro in Laureles (next to the Exito / mall) three months ago. I was paying so little attention to the process that I can't remember for sure, but they must've registered it correctly using my passport and whatever else they needed. I've had no problems adding credit since that point.

On the other hand, my wife went to Tigo and she's gone through Dante's Inferno trying to get it sorted. Her phone was locked, and ultimately she had to plead with and badger the guy at Tigo who sold her the SIM card to meet her at a government office etc etc etc. It took three appointments and two weeks to fix the issue.

Small sampling size so I wouldn't necessarily claim that Claro is better than Tigo. But if you're coming here and planning to stay or return, make sure it gets done right the first time.

Member #4736
10-07-18, 17:48
I am more apprehensive about rip offs, scammers etc arising out of not knowing the language and hence being an easy mark.I normally avoid the street girls because of the safety, language issues and scared of running into drug addicts. It will be boring to spend 10 days either in Bogota or in Medellin as both doesn't have that much to do outside mongering. I would split the trip to 3 or 4 days to Bogota and rest in Medellin. Santa Fe is a must visit for any monger visiting Columbia in my view. But it is not for faint hearts, would recommend visiting between 4-6 PM until you get used to the area. You are safe once you are inside any club and there are plenty of beautiful girls in most of the clubs. PussyHouse strip club is the best club in Bogota, but lack of Spanish skills will be an issue when you are interacting with Waiters and Girls. Casas in Medellin should provide you on what you are looking for in Medellin. There is plenty of detailed information on casas in this forum.

Play safe and have fun in Columbia.

Betafin.

Wolf662
10-07-18, 23:37
Is Botero a strictly no go for a newbie or Spanish virgin?

Are there any other alternatives?The Hotel Nutibara which Hotel Botero is behind may have some english speakers at the front desk but not sure about that, and I don't think they are chica to your room friendly.

I have had buddies stay at the Botero with no spanish skills, should be doable. If you do stay there make sure you read my complete guide to the Botero in post #925 in the Medellin Hotel thread: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2654-Medellin-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments/page5.

You want as high a floor as possible so the street noise is less notable, and the west side (opposite entrance) which is cooler in the morning. A ISG member has been staying there since last year, might still be there, he can show you the ropes. (PM for some more info on that).

Balboa
10-07-18, 23:58
I normally avoid the street girls because of the safety, language issues and scared of running into drug addicts. It will be boring to spend 10 days either in Bogota or in Medellin as both doesn't have that much to do outside mongering. I would split the trip to 3 or 4 days to Bogota and rest in Medellin. Santa Fe is a must visit for any monger visiting Columbia in my view. But it is not for faint hearts, would recommend visiting between 4-6 PM until you get used to the area. You are safe once you are inside any club and there are plenty of beautiful girls in most of the clubs. PussyHouse strip club is the best club in Bogota, but lack of Spanish skills will be an issue when you are interacting with Waiters and Girls. Casas in Medellin should provide you on what you are looking for in Medellin. There is plenty of detailed information on casas in this forum.

Play safe and have fun in Columbia.

Betafin.Yes, have fun in Colombia!

LOL.

Duncan216
10-08-18, 01:30
Of the 10 days, I am planning to do 2-3 days of M1 and 3 days of some place in Poblado and the last 3 days in Hotel Botero in Centro, primarily because that is where the action is and I do not to do too many taxis or uber because of the inability to converse with the drivers in Spanish.

Is Botero a strictly no go for a newbie or Spanish virgin?

Are there any other alternatives?I've only been to Colombia once. I've shacked up at Hotel Botero once. Botero is located is a pretty good spot. It's walkable distance for a lot of mongering locations. The hotel staff did speak English. That being said.

The room smelled of smoke (prob just the room they gave me and most of the rooms were prob okay). There were no blankets, it was just a sheet but the AC either wasn't working or wasn't working well. I saw a roaches there. On my first day there, I didn't do nearly enough research and just tried to walk around and find some goodies. I was only able to find trans girls and the club I went to close by had like 4's and 5's. I got cheated at the club (paid up front, girl said BBBJ but tried to put a rubber on me). I threw a fit and the club owner got me like half my money back. I went back to the hotel and asked the guy up front where he would go and he sold me a pile of crap about the place next door. Sex was a little below average and with a 5. (cost was like 50 k. The guy up front told me it was common place to tip 50 k just for normal stuff, so I did).

The next day, I went to the other clubs talked about on here and they were a lot better. 50 k (17) for 30 minutes and 50 k for add ONS like BBBJ and BBFS. I negotiate a lot in Tijuana but my Spanish is bad, so if what they ask for isn't super common (talked about in the forum) then I just pay it. I also got a hotel far an 5 min uber ride away. It was 35 or so a night and it was heads and tails better. I had great air con, tv had English channels, WiFi worked in my room, I had a blanket and my bed was comfortable and didn't smell of smoke.

Uber is not technically legal in Colombia. What you want to do is call for an uber ride and sit in the front seat. Act like a friend is picking you up. If you put in your destination for uber you don't need to talk to the drivers. The normal taxi drivers will take you the wrong way for 30 minutes to get more money or sit in one spot while you try to tell them where you want to go for like 15 minutes. I def suggest uber. There are lots of places that have WiFi so you could use WiFi to call for uber, but I'd suggest getting a sim card before you get here or do roaming or something.

I think hotel Botero is great for 20 year old who are on a budget or pros who can get better rooms / treatment but for me, I'd much rather just get a comfortable place and uber around. It's only like 10 or 20 bucks more a night with 2-3 bucks for an uber ride. I'm trying out an AirBnb place on my next trip at the end of the month.

My current price list. Hope it helps. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong as it will save me and possibly others some cash and prevent wreaking the game.

Casas: 50 k or less for 30 minutes. 50 k for add ONS (energy is suppose to be better but more expensive) (I like new life).

Facebook: 150 k to 250 k. I'm not sure if that's per hour or for the whole night. Also not sure what adds on cost (never tried but will try next trip).

Street girls: I heard like 30 k per pop and it's like 20 k for the hotel? (never tried but will try next trip).

Dance clubs: Heard it's all over the place. Some ask for like 300 k+ for an hour and some are like 150 k for the night? (never tried but will try next trip). Apparently gusto nightclub is expensive and the way to negotiate is getting them alone and asking rather than in front of their friends.

Colleges: So this is a new one I just thought up. Might as well go to the source yeah? I'm almost 40 but still look in my early to mid 20's for some reason so I figured I wouldn't look too out of place.

If you are going to be using your phone to translate, I've found the best way is ask / communicate before entering the room and the time starts. Like do you have any specialties, or I like it when girls moan or lick my ear or something. Otherwise you might just get a starfish and "just the tip" refers to her BJ skills.

SankarShetty
10-08-18, 04:20
I've only been to Colombia once. I've shacked up at Hotel Botero once. Botero is located is a pretty good spot. It's walkable distance for a lot of mongering locations. The hotel staff did speak English. That being said.

The room smelled of smoke (prob just the room they gave me and most of the rooms were prob okay). There were no blankets, it was just a sheet but the AC either wasn't working or wasn't working well. I saw a roaches there. On my first day there, I didn't do nearly enough research and just tried to walk around and find some goodies. I was only able to find trans girls and the club I went to close by had like 4's and 5's. I got cheated at the club (paid up front, girl said BBBJ but tried to put a rubber on me). I threw a fit and the club owner got me like half my money back. I went back to the hotel and asked the guy up front where he would go and he sold me a pile of crap about the place next door. Sex was a little below average and with a 5. (cost was like 50 k. The guy up front told me it was common place to tip 50 k just for normal stuff, so I did)..Duncan,

You are the man. Thanks for all the info and another shout-out to everyone helping me with important details. Can anyone suggest a hotel for non Spanish speaking monger. Should be chica friendly for around 50/ night? These tips are goldmine for those that have never been to Colombia.

Also, can someone shed light on Medellin internet prepagos, like miloeroticos, pasion, etc. Are the ads authentic. How is the service? Some of the websites show ads for 60 k. Is this a flake?

JjBee62
10-08-18, 04:29
Wonderful suggestion about getting whatapp numbers. Any other tips would be much appreciated. Also, for various reasons, I am unable to invest time in Facebook, CC or SA before the trip.

My budget is only for food and drinks, doesn't include price for lodging. The reason I am mulling a side trip to Bogota is because some trip reports indicate without facebook, SA and CC, there may not be much success for a newbie without Spanish skills in the bars or casas in el centro.

Perhaps I might have better luck in Santa Fe.30 minutes is usually fairly strict. However, at New Life you pay after, for however long you spent. They have the price list posted in the waiting area. Most of the other places you pay in advance.

Energy Spa is more expensive. I believe the 1 hour full service session is still 150 k. It's usually worth a visit. They are closed on Sundays and holidays. Best lineup seems to be Friday and Saturday.

If lack of Spanish will cause you problems with street girls in Medellin, it will cause you the same problems in Bogota. Depending on your age and fitness, Bogota might give you some problems. Some people complain about the altitude.

You won't have difficulty in the casas, especially the more popular ones. They all get a lot of tourists who don't speak Spanish.

Hotel Botero has seen better days, according to what some guys have told me. It's convenient to the action, but not exactly luxurious. While you're at M1 I recommend getting another guest to take you and show you around El Centro. Visit a few hotels while you are there and decide before you book.

Go to the Medellin Lists thread on the bottom half of the Colombia forum page. Look for the link to the Medellin map and to the accompanying PDF file which lists all the casa names and addresses. Before you leave your room, write down the address on a piece of paper and hand it to the taxi driver. You don't need the name, because the driver won't know the name.

There's no need to tip the taxi drivers. You'll just confuse them. What I do from time to time is give them the leftover coins. Use your 50 k bills in stores and bigger restaurants in order to get smaller bills. Taxis and smaller restaurants may not be able to make change.

There's also no need to tip at most restaurants. Often you'll see a 10% propina added to the total. This is a voluntary tip. Just pay it. Often the waiter will ask you "esto incluye servicio?" (Does this include the tip?

Restaurants may be difficult for you. Once you are seated a waiter may come and tell you the menu of the day, or bring a menu. They probably won't return, until you flag them down. Once they bring your food, they won't return, until you flag them down. Get used to it.

Cm6363
10-08-18, 19:21
Best place in my opinion would be to go out the airport and walk directly (a few traffic lanes) of across to the shopping and food court area. There, in air conditioned and less hectic space and on the second floor you can look across to the baggage area and have Wi-Fi. The second person merely goes to baggage claim walks out the door and across the way into the windows where the food court is. Coffee etc and is where if needed you can buy si, card.Thanks to FunLuv, RobertTX, West FL Dude & IamLookin for response.

If flights are on time, we'll meet at the exit after customs for international. If one flight is late, we'll use the shopping area across the street. I am assuming the airport has Wifi so the two of us can connect on WhatsApp if lost.

Thanks again gents.

Luminous
10-09-18, 02:42
Will it work with iPhone?


Nope, this link is correct.

https://amzn.to/2IAt3pZ

It works just fine in my iPhone, and yes it is only data. New countries are added all the time, and I assure you Colombia is on the list as this is the exact card I'm using. It has also worked fine in Hong Kong, USA, Canada, and Panama. The link you gave is the one month version of the same product, which I'm sure works fine, but the 12-month version is like having an unlimited world SIM in your pocket for a year. One year 12 GB is $50 data only. Your link, 30 days 12 GB is $30. If you need that much data per month then the $30 is cheaper. If you use about 1 GB / week traveling like I do, then the one year is awesome. I keep a backup handy too, never know when a Europe trip is going to pop up, and $3/ GB is cheaper than just about any local SIM I've ever used.

It also receives SMS's as I've used the number to activate various services that require a number.

Chaman
10-09-18, 05:01
http://www.candyhousemedellin.com/

It is in Manila but they charge 250,000 pesos. I haven't been there but I was intending to go check it out. Good reviews on a local board.Looks very good and also as you mention, good reports on local forums. Anyone tried? The account on twitter has nice pictures at candyhousemed.

The girls on reviews are more from 25 and up, and seems not natural, but they look very good.

SankarShetty
10-09-18, 05:15
Hotel Dorado la 70.

Cra. 70 #44 B-66, Medellín, Antioquia, Colombia.

Any reviews? Location ratings?

Is this chica friendly.

Can I walk around this area?

El Mechanico
10-09-18, 13:49
Will it work with iPhone?I'm quite sure your iphone has to be unlocked for any other sim card to work in it.

El Mechanico.

Black Page
10-09-18, 17:45
Thanks to FunLuv, RobertTX, West FL Dude & IamLookin for response.Don't even think to arrange a meeting in a large airport as SIN, LAX, ATL, AMS, CDG,. If for MDE you thought to set up such a complex plan.

JanuaryNineth
10-09-18, 21:25
Hotel Dorado la 70.

Cra. 70 #44 B-66, Medelln, Antioquia, Colombia.

Any reviews? Location ratings?

Is this chica friendly.

Can I walk around this area?I am currently living 5 minutes walk from the hotel you mentioned. If you want I can just walk in there and ask about being chica friendly.

The surrounding streets and location is filled with restaurants, ATMs, drug stores, grocery stores and quite easy to access anything you need.

Given that said, during night time there will be party going on all over places and loud music as well. Very lively environment and safe. You will hear the music inside your hotel too. Personally I prefer this kind of environment because of my young age and lot of chicas to pick up and ask for date during day and night time. As the chicas here are not regular street girls. It might depend on your looks and language skills. Let me know if you need any more information around this place.

Talon
10-09-18, 23:29
Duncan,

You are the man. Thanks for all the info and another shout-out to everyone helping me with important details. Can anyone suggest a hotel for non Spanish speaking monger. Should be chica friendly for around 50/ night? These tips are goldmine for those that have never been to Colombia.

Also, can someone shed light on Medellin internet prepagos, like miloeroticos, pasion, etc. Are the ads authentic. How is the service? Some of the websites show ads for 60 k. Is this a flake?You can try San Peter apartment suites on Calle 41 A. Despite the name they're setup more like a hotel with a front desk that has at least 2 English speaking employees. Rooms are around $40 a night and they're definitely chica friendly. I stayed there for week without any problems.

I recently tried out Ambar (or Amber) on photoprepagos: https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/antioquia/medellin/sexo-placer-sudor-penetraciones-y-mucho-morbo-te-daran-el-placer-que-buscas-id-rwdcj.

140,000 an hour which included BBJ and GFE. She operates out of a residential house in Laureles that apparently serves as a brothel, as I saw and heard other girls during my visit. She's as cute as her photos I'm happy to report. However, like a lot of pros she really tries to rush things, trying to get you to nut as quickly as possible, which is great if you like fast and furious, but I take awhile to finish so I kept having to tell her to slow down. I've gotten better experiences from Facebook girls for the same price so I probably wouldn't repeat.

Knowledge
10-09-18, 23:44
Any and all phones have to be unlocked before you can use a "foreign" SIM. Foreign SIM means a SIM card that was not issued by the service provider (T-Mobile, Vodafone, A&T, Claro, Tigo, etc.) that subsidized the phone. If you travel internationally on a regular basis, an unlocked phone is very helpful.


I'm quite sure your iphone has to be unlocked for any other sim card to work in it.

El Mechanico.

JjBee62
10-10-18, 01:08
Hotel Dorado la 70.

Cra. 70 #44 B-66, Medelln, Antioquia, Colombia.

Any reviews? Location ratings?

Is this chica friendly.

Can I walk around this area?This hotel is located in the middle of the the La 70 area of Laureles. It is a good area where you can walk around day or night. Noise may be a problem, especially on weekends when the bars are open late. I would expect it to be a very nice hotel. The lobby looks nice. I would not expect it to be chica friendly. There are lots of restaurants and bars within walking distance. This is also walking distance to the Estadio metro station.

SankarShetty
10-10-18, 09:30
You can try San Peter apartment suites on Calle 41 A. Despite the name they're setup more like a hotel with a front desk that has at least 2 English speaking employees. Rooms are around $40 a night and they're definitely chica friendly. I stayed there for week without any problems.

I recently tried out Ambar (or Amber) on photoprepagos: https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/antioquia/medellin/sexo-placer-sudor-penetraciones-y-mucho-morbo-te-daran-el-placer-que-buscas-id-rwdcj.

140,000 an hour which included BBJ and GFE. She operates out of a residential house in Laureles that apparently serves as a brothel, as I saw and heard other girls during my visit. She's as cute as her photos I'm happy to report. However, like a lot of pros she really tries to rush things, trying to get you to nut as quickly as possible, which is great if you like fast and furious, but I take awhile to finish so I kept having to tell her to slow down. I've gotten better experiences from Facebook girls for the same price so I probably wouldn't repeat.Thank you Talon. Is there a safe in the hotel room?

SankarShetty
10-10-18, 09:42
I am currently living 5 minutes walk from the hotel you mentioned. If you want I can just walk in there and ask about being chica friendly.

The surrounding streets and location is filled with restaurants, ATMs, drug stores, grocery stores and quite easy to access anything you need.

Given that said, during night time there will be party going on all over places and loud music as well. Very lively environment and safe. You will hear the music inside your hotel too. Personally I prefer this kind of environment because of my young age and lot of chicas to pick up and ask for date during day and night time. As the chicas here are not regular street girls. It might depend on your looks and language skills. Let me know if you need any more information around this place.Almost all places I have looked at have loud music issues. I guess I am not too much bothered by it, safety and accessibility to casas and strip clubs are the bigger priorities. Please find out about being chica friendly if you have a few minutes.

Any other hotel recommendations with English speaking staff, either nearby or near Poblado would be much appreciated.

GreenBud
10-10-18, 10:10
My current fascination is with rimjobs and prostate massage in conjunction with the the usual activities. Are these something that most working girls will agree to or am I setting myself up for disappointment? Should I expect to pay extra and how much?Most girls probably won't agree to it, but many will.

I am assuming all girls who do rimjobs will agree to do a prostate massage (I don't let anyone put their finger up my ass). The following refers to rimming, but the prostate stuff should be included.

In New Life, some girls will say yes. Not sure of the percentages. The girls might ask for 50 K tip for BBBJ and rimming. The girls at the casa ask for more tips than the SWs.

It'll be easier to get it from the SWs in El Centro. Ask the girls on the street intersection. It seems they are more desperate than the girls next to the short time guesthouses, which acts more like a casa brothel. Many of the girls on the intersection will say yes to BBBJ and rimming without having to offer a tip. Of course, some will seek a tip. 10 K or 20 K tip should be sufficient.

If you say, "Culo?" to the girls, they understand that as rimming. Some of the girls you can get are decent. Of course many are below average; it should be easier to get the below average girls to do your kind of stuff.

GreenBud
10-10-18, 10:31
If one flight is late, we'll use the shopping area across the street.Why the hell would you want to do that for? Why would you want to leave the airport?

Across the street? Across from the airport? When you leave the airport, you cross the traffic lane, and then you head into the parking lot. Where is the shopping area across the street? Do you have to leave the airport?

I would just meet at the loft that contains the food court. You can get drinks / coffee. But I didn't suggest it because there might be 2 food courts. Can't really remember.

Fun Luvr
10-10-18, 13:13
... If you say, "Culo?" to the girls, they understand that as rimming. Some of the girls you can get are decent. Of course many are below average; it should be easier to get the below average girls to do your kind of stuff.You must have a different meaning of rimming than I understand it to mean. I think it means the girl licks your asshole. If you ask the girl "culo?", I think she will think you want to screw her in the ass.

Mr Enternational
10-10-18, 13:45
You must have a different meaning of rimming than I understand it to mean. I think it means the girl licks your asshole. If you ask the girl "culo?", I think she will think you want to screw her in the ass.LOL. Exactly. Instead, he should be asking for besos negros.

GreenBud
10-10-18, 19:42
You must have a different meaning of rimming than I understand it to mean. I think it means the girl licks your asshole. If you ask the girl "culo?", I think she will think you want to screw her in the ass.Thank you for your correction. We have the same meaning of rimming. I read that "black kiss" (or as Mr E said "besos negros") is the term to use.

I "learned" that term from couple of girls. In the room, they said "culo". They also said "culito".

I normally say, "oral solo", "leche en la boca", and "culo". And I also point. It seems to work most of the time. But with some girls, after I start to ask those questions, they say something like, I only speak Spanish. I think to myself, I am fuckin speaking Spanish! LOL!

The girls also seem to understand when I ask, "lesbian? dos chicas?" and "lesbian culo?".

SankarShetty
10-10-18, 20:07
Go to the Medellin Lists thread on the bottom half of the Colombia forum page. Look for the link to the Medellin map and to the accompanying PDF file which lists all the casa names and addresses. Before you leave your room, write down the address on a piece of paper and hand it to the taxi driver. You don't need the name, because the driver won't know the name.

I am able to get access to the map but unable to get the PDF. I do not have subscription and not able to get one now.

Is there anyway newbies can access the list? Would someone be kind enough to post contents on the list on this thread?

Smoothy
10-10-18, 20:41
You must have a different meaning of rimming than I understand it to mean. I think it means the girl licks your asshole. I never have to say a word. They always start the session in BJ mode with me laying on my back, when they move down to my balls, I lift my legs to expose my ass. They immediately know what to do and they start licking my ass.

VickyRai
10-10-18, 20:49
Had an amazing trip to Medellin. This time stayed at Provenza Lofts in Park Lleras instead of mansion. Wanted to do facebook scene. Flight was delayed by half an hour. Landed at 1230 am. My hotel pick up didn't show up. Had to take private taxi as there was no white taxi available at 1 am. Reached hotel at 2 am. Room was very nice.

Met my first girl. Jennifer came over at 230 am. She has very pretty face and most beautiful eyes you can imagine. Pure GFE experience. But she is not slim. She is actually on heavier side, but very curvaceous. I saw her on my last trip also. * so there was an connection and more over she showed up at 230 am. Nobody else would.

Day 1- had set up appointment with Nataly. She was supposed to show up at 1130 but she came at 130 pm. Whole two hours late. She is very beautiful. More beautiful than her pics, slim and amazing attitude. We had some crazy fun in zaccuzi and ordered pizza. Spent couple of hours together. Not* a time watcher at all.

In the evening had another appointment with my last trip favorite Luisa. She is an engineer and speaks decent English. She is the best girl I ever had and enjoy her company so much. May be its the language barrier with other girls. Luisa is also by far the most beautiful girl I saw on the trip. May be I am biased. But she is very slim, amazing hair, her looks are similar to Cindy Crawford daughter. Anyways had the best time ever and she is the reason I came back to Medellin. In the night, went to Parque Lleras. It was full of people. Went to a club called hacienda. They were offering free beer to just come in. Went in, liked a girl. Talked to her. She wanted 400 mil. I said I can pay 150 mil. She declined. Gave an counter offer of 200 max and she came down to 300 mil. But I was not that much interested as I was tired from night before and decided to call it quits.

Day 3 - I had invited Luisa back again in the morning at 930 as the plan was to have fun and then she can take me for the tour of Medellin. As always had an amazing session. After that we went to fruit market and then did cable car and then comuna 13 tour. Came back to apartment in the after noon and one more session.

In the evening I had lined up a girl thru la Vanee. Her name was Daniella. Her pics are gorgeous. She was right on time at 7 pm. * she is very beautiful but silicone. She was complete professional and mechanical. Seemed like rush. I didn't had a good time. In the night, I had lined up another facebook girl named maria she came highly reviewed by fellow board members. She came on time at 11 am and stayed till almost 2 am. We had two wonderful sessions. She has some baby damage and not one of the most beautiful. But she makes an effort to please you a lot. Had a super time with her. I wanted to hit the clubs later but was so tired that I decided to call it a night.

Day 3 - had lined up Luisa Ramirez at 930 am. She was on time. She is 20 but had the silicone. I didn't knew that. The session started good but noticed foul odour. Sent her back. Second disappointment of the tour.

Had planned a trip to Gautape. Will skip details here. Came back and had lined up a girl named Valentina from facebook. Slim beautiful but has some baby damage. Very much GFE. Had good time with her. 2 rounds. And done for night. BTW she is studying law. 19. Loves music.

Day 4- had invited Paulina from facebook. Slim beautiful. She is very pretty. Lots of tattoo. Had a great time with her too.

Had two rounds and was done for the trip.

Going back flights cancelled and had to go thru longer route.

For all the girls, I paid 250 mil including tips and taxi other than Luisa.

All had BBBJ agreed before and lots of kissing except Daniella that was a disappointment.

Mostly were on time or delay of max 20-30 minutes except one Nataly.

I think knowing Spanish enhances your experience a lot but without Spanish its still fun.

Used ATM for drawing money. Caja social in Parque Lleras. No ATM charge. My td bank did charge 3.5 % but no foreign ATM fee but still much better than money exchange places. Almost got 2275 per cad.

I am adding pics for you all.

SankarShetty
10-10-18, 21:13
I would never dare to request any BM seniors to write a newbie guide like Routard's Bogota writeup. That piece is a bible.

My ask:

Top 10 must visit strip clubs, Casas and massage places for a first timer? Just the names please.

The map thanks to WorldTravel69 already gives us the addresses and approximate pricing.

SankarShetty
10-10-18, 21:22
I will be much interested in meeting up with BMs who are in Medellin in the first week of November. Anyone at Mansion on the 1st Nov?

Mr Enternational
10-10-18, 22:42
But with some girls, after I start to ask those questions, they say something like, I only speak Spanish. I think to myself, I am fuckin speaking Spanish! LOL!This mostly happens to me in the US when initially talking to Spanish speakers and it happens when initially speaking with Thais in Thailand. I think it is more so that they are not listening and are only anticipating that you do not and are not speaking their language.

Speaking of anticipation, it absolutely drives me crazy when meeting Dumbminican chicks online. The first thing I say is Hola. Que estas haciendo? Literally 99% of the time they will respond only saying Hola as if they didn't see the question, or by answering the wrong question and answering bien y tu. I have come to the conclusion that they must be anticipating what I am saying instead of just fucking reading it.

PseudoGene
10-11-18, 03:29
Thanks for the report. Great job.

IamLookin
10-11-18, 13:33
I will plan to be in Medellin next month for a little more than a week. I was thinking of going to Guatape and bring along a chica. Any experience out there with hotels?

Is it worth staying overnight? In either case I plan to bring one of my fb girl friends with me.

Thanks.

RobertTx
10-11-18, 17:50
I will plan to be in Medellin next month for a little more than a week. I was thinking of going to Guatape and bring along a chica. Any experience out there with hotels?

Is it worth staying overnight? In either case I plan to bring one of my fb girl friends with me.

Thanks.There is one hotel called Benhamar in front of the lake. And there are many other hotels within walking distance. Boat ride and Zip lining right there.

Main church and city square where shops and discos are within walking distance. The rock (el penol) is a good 600+ steps walk to the top. There are juice bars at the top.

Enjoy!

PaisaPorFavor
10-11-18, 18:50
I personally think it is worth staying the night. I don't have experience with a hotel but there are a ton of amazing Airbnb houses around. Get up the next day and climb el penol. Great side trip from Medellin.


I will plan to be in Medellin next month for a little more than a week. I was thinking of going to Guatape and bring along a chica. Any experience out there with hotels?

Is it worth staying overnight? In either case I plan to bring one of my fb girl friends with me.

Thanks..

Reemo
10-11-18, 19:46
I will plan to be in Medellin next month for a little more than a week. I was thinking of going to Guatape and bring along a chica. Any experience out there with hotels?

Is it worth staying overnight? In either case I plan to bring one of my fb girl friends with me.

Thanks.About 2 years ago I stayed at Hotel LOS Recuerdos. It's about 10 minutes away from the town square, closer to The Rock. I asked for a quiet room and they gave me one facing the lake. Great pool and good restaurant. Go into town and get a boat tour around the lake (bring rain gear or at least a sweat shirt). And climb La Roca. I'm in my 60's, so it was a tough climb but the view was worth it.

I would stay there again.

SoberHans69
10-11-18, 20:01
Really liking Medellin, the place is beautiful in places and the people are so friendly even if you don't speak Spanish.

I staying in an air BnB apartment just off calle 33 in Laureles and it's good here. Visited El Poblado yesterday and wasn't a fan, too busy, although more people speak English.

I probably won't come back until I speak some Spanish though. It's not much of a problem with the chicas, they are happy to use Google translate as long as you give them some alcohol and let them put some music on.

I have been to Thailand over 10 times now and got sick of the Thai women, not only do they not have the curvy bodies I prefer but the service off them gets worse every year.

Not only have I found the Colombian women to be better looking but more friendly, way sexier and better in bed. Only been with three so far so maybe I've been lucky.

All three have been Facebook girls, tried to go to El Centro yesterday but loads roads were closed, some kind of March and I couldn't get there, ended up having the taxi turn around. Will go tomorrow now.

First girl I met was called Monica Alejandra, she was really pretty and spoke decent English. Was a bit bigger than her pictures but still gorgeous. Really nice body, gave BBBJ and good sex. Paid all them 200 plus taxi.

Second girl is called Manuela Florez on Facebook and she was great. Probably best looking girl I've been with although she doesn't speak English.

Really smiley, sexy and you can tell she is a party girl. Great body and good sex again. BBBJ without asking too.

Third girl was called Paula Andrea Garcia on Facebook. Really pretty face and lovely personality, speaks good English just she was petite whereas I like curvier women. Good sex though, recommend to anyone who likes petite women.

Chicafan
10-11-18, 20:32
This mostly happens to me in the US when initially talking to Spanish speakers and it happens when initially speaking with Thais in Thailand. I think it is more so that they are not listening and are only anticipating that you do not and are not speaking their language.

Speaking of anticipation, it absolutely drives me crazy when meeting Dumbminican chicks online. The first thing I say is Hola. Que estas haciendo? Literally 99% of the time they will respond only saying Hola as if they didn't see the question, or by answering the wrong question and answering bien y tu. I have come to the conclusion that they must be anticipating what I am saying instead of just fucking reading it.Yes mindboggling. They do it. It lets me know they are busy working their multitude of messengers or that they are lazy or lack skills. Can be a red flag.



Day 3 - had lined up Luisa Ramirez at 930 am. She was on time. She is 20 but had the silicone. I didn't knew that. The session started good but noticed foul odour. Sent her back. Second disappointment of the tour.
The sillicone must be new and when we met her boobs were really small. I like(ed) Luisa, she was a sweet girl. The first and only time we met she entered and immediately started looking through my fridge for food. I made her something to eat and she talked with her mouth full and ate like a little pig, albeit a cute one. No smell that night and she was fun. The dealbreaker was that she was then on a date in Poblado, posted fotos and a story during it, and tried to arrange a date with me on her way back home. She hangs with a group of marginals from Bello, the ring leader is Dulce Ruiz, a shady girl that tries to farm out her group of average looking friends. Dulce was a dud in the sack and tried to steal from me. It was all I could do to get her to leave without a fight.

SoberHans69
10-11-18, 21:31
Forgot to add when Manuela left she got her mum to pick her up in a taxi as she works near my condo, that was weird enough then she asked me to come down and introduced me to her. God knows who she thought I was.

Her mum was hot though haha.

SankarShetty
10-11-18, 23:09
Gentlemen,

World Travel 69 has struck again. He has posted a good list of casas, massages and clubs along with pricing and some location info. In the maps and lists thread.

Thank you World Travel 69.

ColombiaLover
10-12-18, 01:52
I travel to Medellin once a month. And, for the most part, I have settled in with a few girls who give me the service I want for a fair price. None of them are models, but they are cute "girl next door" types who are very good in bed. Every trip I always try one or two news ones. Just to see if someone can break the line-up for the future.

I went out on Saturday night and got back to my apartment around 3:30 am Or so. I was just about ready to go to bed when I got a message from a chica I met once before. She is a non-pro. I can't remember if I met her on Cupido or on Facebook. BUt we went out once before. Had dinner. And enjoyed the jacuzzi (although no sex). We were supposed to see again, but she flaked on me because I have so many putas on my facebook page (guilty). Recently we had talked a little, but had made no plans to see. So anyway, the girl asks if she can come to my apartment and bring her cousin. I thought about it and said sure, why not. So she shows up from Bellow with her cousin. She is a dancer (trained, not stripper) and has a nice tight body. She has a little body hair, but nothing unusual for a Colombian. Her cousin was a gordita. She had a pretty face, but she was pretty fat. Ugh.

Anyway, we have a few rum and cokes and waited until the jacuzzi could be used (6 am). So we eventually got in the jacuzzi and stayed there for several hours. Girls got drunk. I did not bother. The fat chick was strange. At first she tried to seduce me, even though she knows I like her cousin and her cousin likes me. I wanted nothing to do with her. But as she drank, she turned lesbian and starting trying to feel up her cousin. The cousin didn't like it, but you could tell she was a little intimidated so she would let it happen a little before she pushed back. I have no problem with lesbian shit, but this girl is just too fat. I could not enjoy it. But the good news is that my dancer got a little horny and turned to me. You could tell she was not sure what she wanted. She wanted something but kept holding back. I got some kisses. Some nipple. And some groping. Finally things heated up and we went to the bedroom. The dancer performed for us for several songs. Her body looked better than ever when she was dancing. And finally she fucked me. I most definitely enjoyed it, but it was such a strange experience. The cousin was constantly tell her how sexy she was and how much she liked her body. And she kept touching her ass and kissing her back as she was fucking me. Super weird!

I hope to see the dancer again, but I am not going to permit her fat cousin to come. Just too weird for me. At noon I finally had to send them packing. I paid their taxi to Bello and gave them some money (70 mil, I think) to buy some lunch. In the end, I got laid by a chica with a food body who wanted to bang me. But the experience with the cousin was definitely odd.

ColombiaLover
10-12-18, 01:55
I know Manuela / Enlly well. And her mom too. Her mom knows exactly what she does for money. Although mom has a legitimate (albeit low-paying) job and does not work. Mom is 38, I think, and yes, she's pretty hot for her age. Although she is an intense woman who talks a lot.

I am surprised they did not ask you to buy them both dinner. Manuela knows how to work it. No doubt about it. But she does have a good personality and a nice body. Personally, I never had good chemistry with her. Not my type in bed. But she works for others. And she's fun to go out with.


Forgot to add when Manuela left she got her mum to pick her up in a taxi as she works near my condo, that was weird enough then she asked me to come down and introduced me to her. God knows who she thought I was.

Her mum was hot though haha.

VickyRai
10-12-18, 02:44
The sillicone must be new and when we met her boobs were really small. I like(ed) Luisa, she was a sweet girl. The first and only time we met she entered and immediately started looking through my fridge for food. I made her something to eat and she talked with her mouth full and ate like a little pig, albeit a cute one. No smell that night and she was fun. The dealbreaker was that she was then on a date in Poblado, posted fotos and a story during it, and tried to arrange a date with me on her way back home. She hangs with a group of marginals from Bello, the ring leader is Dulce Ruiz, a shady girl that tries to farm out her group of average looking friends. Dulce was a dud in the sack and tried to steal from me. It was all I could do to get her to leave without a fight.Yes the silicone were new. 3 months old. I think she was on her periods. Big turn off.

VickyRai
10-12-18, 02:47
Third girl was called Paula Andrea Garcia on Facebook. Really pretty face and lovely personality, speaks good English just she was petite whereas I like curvier women. Good sex though, recommend to anyone who likes petite women.I was also planning to see Paula Andrea Garcia but was not sure. Was there any baby damage?

Enjoy rest of your trip.

SoberHans69
10-12-18, 13:39
I was also planning to see Paula Andrea Garcia but was not sure. Was there any baby damage?

Enjoy rest of your trip.You could see a little bit of stretch marks on her stomach when up close, but apart from that her body was good.

SoberHans69
10-12-18, 13:41
I know Manuela / Enlly well. And her mom too. Her mom knows exactly what she does for money. Although mom has a legitimate (albeit low-paying) job and does not work. Mom is 38, I think, and yes, she's pretty hot for her age. Although she is an intense woman who talks a lot.

I am surprised they did not ask you to buy them both dinner. Manuela knows how to work it. No doubt about it. But she does have a good personality and a nice body. Personally, I never had good chemistry with her. Not my type in bed. But she works for others. And she's fun to go out with.Yeah can imagine she's fun to go out with but expensive I bet. You can tell she's a party girl.

SoberHans69
10-12-18, 13:51
Seen two more Facebook girls yesterday.

First one was Sheyla Jmnz. She is a webcam girl.

She doesn't seem like a typical Colombian girl. She doesn't like to party, doesn't like salsa or reggaeton and likes watching nature documentaries LOL.

She is quite tall, skinny, pretty face, nice ass but not very big and small but perky breasts.

She was good in bed and a nice girl.

Second girl I took was Daniela Morales. Again a nice girl but I didn't click with her. Even though I don't speak Spanish I've still been able to get along with the girls but found it hard with Daniela.

Perhaps this was due to her age, she is only 21. Looks wise she has a pretty face, nice ass and big silicone breasts (I prefer natural).

The sex was OK but she was very tight and I had to take it slow at first. She then got on top and rode me quite well.

Overall was a decent experience that I would not repeat. If you like pretty girls with silicone and a tight pussy you might enjoy her though.

Horny Goats
10-12-18, 14:53
I will plan to be in Medellin next month for a little more than a week. I was thinking of going to Guatape and bring along a chica. Any experience out there with hotels?
Is it worth staying overnight? My wife's family was in town last week, and I took them to Guatape for the day. Obviously I had less reason to want to stay the night, haha, but makes a nice, reasonable day trip as well. Couple hours there, couple hours back, stops along the way.

TheCarlAnthony
10-12-18, 16:36
She hangs with a group of marginals from Bello, the ring leader is Dulce Ruiz, a shady girl that tries to farm out her group of average looking friends. Dulce was a dud in the sack and tried to steal from me. It was all I could do to get her to leave without a fight.Just out of curiosity. What did she try to steal? How'd you catch her?

GeneHickman
10-12-18, 19:46
150-250 depending on what you want. (anal, BBBJCIM, video etc.) also depends on how hot the girl is I noticed the ones in high demand won't budge off 250.Based on my interaction with them. This is about right. To each their own in the end of course, but if you are in this range and stick to your guns, you will get what you are looking for. Some of these girls call any random price sometimes, if their "gullible gringo" radar goes off. If they do it to often, they lose out and very quickly go back to the lower end. They like to play that game. And too many desperate gringos fall for it.

ThadMax
10-12-18, 22:47
Great report Vicky. Thank you. Might you be willing to share some of the facebook names with us? Would greatly appreciate.

TheCarlAnthony
10-13-18, 03:45
Seen two more Facebook girls yesterday.

First one was Sheyla Jmnz. She is a webcam girl.

She doesn't seem like a typical Colombian girl. She doesn't like to party, doesn't like salsa or reggaeton and likes watching nature documentaries LOL.

She is quite tall, skinny, pretty face, nice ass but not very big and small but perky breasts.

She was good in bed and a nice girl.

Second girl I took was Daniela Morales. Again a nice girl but I didn't click with her. Even though I don't speak Spanish I've still been able to get along with the girls but found it hard with Daniela.

Perhaps this was due to her age, she is only 21. Looks wise she has a pretty face, nice ass and big silicone breasts (I prefer natural).

The sex was OK but she was very tight and I had to take it slow at first. She then got on top and rode me quite well..Brooooooooo! Thank you! I have both of them in my inbox daily! Like 30 messages a day back and fourth! We must like the same kind of girls! They are very similar! Glad you posted this! BBBJ? Price? So far neither of them have mentioned money "yet" but I arrive in a few days so I'm sure the convo is coming! They both are trying to act like they are regular non pro girls. I even opened the convo about sex and they both just talked about positions and sent me pictures. I sent the $sign with a question mark and both ignored the opportunity to say yes I'm a paid cum **** LOL oh well. Give the details and what they asked for please? I'm prepared to pay but I guess I have to force the conversation LOL.

SBTiger
10-13-18, 06:50
Planning a first time trip to Medellin Colombia end of month, want to get my bearings. I am totally zero Spanish- hopefully this would not be a big issue?

Read 10+ pages + the list+ the PDF, still lots of doubts.

Reading about Facebook and Tinder and all that- is that all necessary? I can use WhatsApp or Text. Assuming SIM cards are easy to get?

Also seeing you can just go a bar, club or Massage place. If you can go to bar and pick a chic. That would be easiest and best (for me). Do we not get girls of the same quality or price, or any of other issues.

What are typical prices, I understand it can vary. What is the general baseline range?

I understand Col. Peso, what is KCOP?

Any other advice- hotel location, bars, clubs?

Thanks.

Sam.

VickyRai
10-13-18, 13:49
Great report Vicky. Thank you. Might you be willing to share some of the facebook names with us? Would greatly appreciate.You can PM me for specific contact.

JjBee62
10-13-18, 15:17
Planning a first time trip to Medellin Colombia end of month, want to get my bearings. I am totally zero Spanish- hopefully this would not be a big issue?

Read 10+ pages + the list+ the PDF, still lots of doubts.

Reading about Facebook and Tinder and all that- is that all necessary? I can use WhatsApp or Text. Assuming SIM cards are easy to get?

Also seeing you can just go a bar, club or Massage place. If you can go to bar and pick a chic. That would be easiest and best (for me). Do we not get girls of the same quality or price, or any of other issues.

What are typical prices, I understand it can vary. What is the general baseline range?.KCOP is thousand Colombian pesos. Very, very roughly 3000 COP (3 k cop) is $1 US. So instead of writing 150,000, most will write 150 k, 150 k cop or just 150, which is roughly $50. If the $ is included, assume that's US dollars.

150 k is your baseline price for Facebook, Tinder or other online girls. Some will be higher, some will be lower. Girls in casas usually cost 50 k for 30 minutes. There are minor variations, and a few places where the price is much higher.

Strip clubs typically the charge is 80 k in El Centro, 180 k at Fase Dos and 300 k at La Isla. Street girls generally ask for 30-50 k. Other bars, varies widely. At Gusto they might ask from $100 to $300, or you might find one for 200 k. In El Centro bars can be from 40 k to 100 k.

Lots of guys are zero Spanish. It's an issue, but it's an issue you can overcome. You'll have some difficulty. You should be able to work around it.

SoberHans69
10-14-18, 02:26
Brooooooooo! Thank you! I have both of them in my inbox daily! Like 30 messages a day back and fourth! We must like the same kind of girls! They are very similar! Glad you posted this! BBBJ? Price? So far neither of them have mentioned money "yet" but I arrive in a few days so I'm sure the convo is coming! They both are trying to act like they are regular non pro girls. I even opened the convo about sex and they both just talked about positions and sent me pictures. I sent the $sign with a question mark and both ignored the opportunity to say yes I'm a paid cum **** LOL oh well. Give the details and what they asked for please? I'm prepared to pay but I guess I have to force the conversation LOL.I've just offered every girl 200 and they've accepted. Could have maybe got them cheaper, who knows.

Both gave BBBJ.

Have a good trip.

SoberHans69
10-14-18, 02:46
Seen a girl called Yennifer Taborda last night.

Really pretty girl with a nice body.

She brought a few blunts so I shared one with her then got down to business.

Good BBJ, nice pussy and good fuck. First time I cum, she put on Google translate I am going for a smoke then I want some more.

Really enjoyed myself, she kept rubbing her clit when we were fucking, she was either very into it or a good actress.

Again paid her 200.

Today I seen a girl off photoprepagos. Sorry I forgot her name, she was Venezuelan.

Decent fuck, not amazing. She had a pretty face, decent tiys and nice ass. Had chunky legs and a bit of a belly but I don't mind curvy women.

Paid 150 for her to come to me, would have been 120 if I travelled to her place in Belen.

Waiting on another Facebook chica coming over now.

Travelled to El Centro yesterday but wasn't really my scene.

Jayson01
10-14-18, 04:07
Touchdown in Medellin from Miami. I booked a last minute room at the Mansion before my fligh and they charged about 370 k a night which is about 100 k above the cash price. I only booked for one night as I like to change hotels in case I don't like it. Also booked airport pickup for 70 k from the hotel as this was my first time in Colombia with almost zero Spanish. My first surprise was how far the airport is from the El Poplado about 50 min drive. The hotel looks looks classy but outdated, everything looks straight from 90's at the Mansion.

First Night.

I went out to the famous Park Ileres and Gustos, but first I had nice dinner at restaurant called Triada I believe, its on the same street as Skybar. I was fearful of the unknown food, but it was surprisingly good there, and the dessert was amazing. I can only recommend this place.

So anyways I went to the gringo club Gustos just to see what high quality looks like in Colombia. I payed 10 k at the door and took a lift to the 4th or 3 the floor. The place looked modern and spacious playing American music but its have empty. Many girls were standing by the them self dressed to impress, it kinda reminded of some Dubai clubs. They girls out number the men by 3-1 maybe, many of them pass as hot between 7 to 8 on my scale, almost no 10, others are 6 or 5. Just to clarify, a 10 in my book is slim waist, big round ass with a pretty young face, slim girl with no curves or fake boobs is a 6 in my book, big breast not so important. And what do you know the girls ask the same prices here as the top notch clubs of Dubai LOL. First girl I approached was a tall brunette she could speak a little English to my surprise, after a little chit-chat she told me 200-250 Dollar, I said thank you just give your number and I will think about it. She did and I moved on thinking to myself "I definitely did NOT come all the way to Colombia to pay 200 dollar when can find that price at most places in the world ". I checked a couple other girls just too see if they agree on the price, and they do ask 200-250 dollar firmely. So I told I'm sorry I don't use dollars here as this is Colombia and left the place. The place is definitely geared towards scamming tourists by asking dollars and should be avoided for the price but I still saw some guys leaving with a girls. The best walk around is probably to write down their number and make them a sane offer the next day once the get off the gringo high horse. I didn't negotiate with any of them as I'm not interested in paying anywhere near their price.

So I took an Uber to Barra Ejecutiva at about 1 am, yes I'm going around in the middle of the night on my first day in South America but I like to think of myself as seasoned traveler LOL. I just go from door to door with Uber, no walking around. The place is a strip club in downtown with private rooms upstairs, the girls are not as good looking as in Gustos, most are 5 or 6 , many older girls and some overweight. I sat down and had buy my drink because of club the policy. Soon I found pretty 7. 5-8, slim but nice curves, round ass and a gorgeous smile. She told me 180 k for session upstairs, so I took her. And man the service was top notch, she didn't complain about anything and was smiling through the whole session and listening to my terrible Spanish. After session we talked about how she came from Venezuela just two months ago. She seemed to like me or is just an extremely friendly person. Anways I give her 10/10 for the service and gave her tip as well. About 3 am I went back to Park Illeres really tired and hungry, grabbed some street food and sat in the park to enjoy the view of the street walkers, many have big asses and are young but the some of those body ratio seem off, a lot seemed plastic which I don't like so I let them go. As I was walkin to my uber I saw a really beautiful girl that looked natural and non-pro, half blond half brunette, thick with big round ass and pretty face. She was rushing through the streets alone. And I was not sure if she was a working girl or not but I just stopped her and said "Whats up, where are you going?" she said " What are your plans? " I told her lets go to my hotel and she said ok. Ok most of this was with the help off google translator and some phrases I learned. I took her to the Mansion at about 3. 40 am, they reception guy registered her I. The which made me feel a bit safer too, no chick fee. The agreement was whole night, we went to my room and she asked for the money upfront I give her maybe 300 for the whole night. But she still remained humble and friendly, we had awesome session without a rush, after one and half hour she told me she the had a kid and needed to go, I thought to myself "not this excuse again" I felt a little betrayed but it was late and we had such a great time so I did not want to argue with her at 5 am as I was tired myself. So I let her go with a smile and she seemed happy too. That was the first night but Colombia seems promising and I love the vibes I'm getting here.

Mr Enternational
10-14-18, 04:55
So I took an Uber to Barra Ejecutiva at about 1 am, . Soon I found pretty 7. 5-8, slim but nice curves, round ass and a gorgeous smile. She told me 180 k for session upstairs, so I took her.This is a typo right? From my experience chicks in BE start at 80K and will many times go down to 60K. I think 180K is Fase 2 pricing.

Starlord1
10-14-18, 11:50
Touchdown in Medellin from Miami. I booked a last minute room at the Mansion before my fligh and they charged about 370 k a night which is about 100 k above the cash price. I only booked for one night as I like to change hotels in case I don't like it. Also booked airport pickup for 70 k from the hotel as this was my first time in Colombia with almost zero Spanish. My first surprise was how far the airport is from the El Poplado about 50 min drive. The hotel looks looks classy but outdated, everything looks straight from 90's at the Mansion.

First Night.

I went out to the famous Park Ileres and Gustos, but first I had nice dinner at restaurant called Triada I believe, its on the same street as Skybar. I was fearful of the unknown food, but it was surprisingly good there, and the dessert was amazing. I can only recommend this place.

So anyways I went to the gringo club Gustos just to see what high quality looks like in Colombia. I payed 10 k at the door and took a lift to the 4th or 3 the floor..I can never fall asleep with these women in my room. You never know what can happen. Plus I don't see the logic in paying someone to cuddle. I would have smashed and to her to bounce. Just for safety purposes and money wise. It was late she probably would have taken 200 k easily for a session. But great trip so far.

IamLookin
10-14-18, 12:34
I would hope it is a typo, 80 k sounds about right for that place although I personally don't recommend it.


This is a typo right? From my experience chicks in BE start at 80K and will many times go down to 60K. I think 180K is Fase 2 pricing.

IamLookin
10-14-18, 12:52
I have learned that for long term visits to make it clear that you will pay 2 different amounts One is the price she agreed upon and another is if she leaves early. At first, I was looking for all-nighters but after having sessioned various times that way, I now prefer a couple of hours before bedtime. 200 k for a couple of rounds should be enough. I have regular girls that I see now so the sessions are very intimate with me adding an additional 50 K for some for total GFE experience. Never pay upfront !!


The agreement was whole night, we went to my room and she asked for the money upfront I give her maybe 300 for the whole night. But she still remained humble and friendly, we had awesome session without a rush, after one and half hour she told me she the had a kid and needed to go, I thought to myself "not this excuse again" I felt a little betrayed but it was late and we had such a great time so I did not want to argue with her at 5 am as I was tired myself. So I let her go with a smile and she seemed happy too. That was the first night but Colombia seems promising and I love the vibes I'm getting here.

Knowledge
10-14-18, 15:36
Never pay upfront is good advice in my opinion. "I have to get back to my kid" is classic, right up there with "I have a sick relative, please send money". I don't think the all night deal is the best value for me. Others seem to like it. In a place like Medellin where you can schedule as many dates as you want until you are ready to go to bed I don't see the point other than the "morning wood" relief. It's a great deal for the providers, extra money for sleeping or hanging around an hour or two more than they would for the base rate.


I have learned that for long term visits to make it clear that you will pay 2 different amounts One is the price she agreed upon and another is if she leaves early. At first, I was looking for all-nighters but after having sessioned various times that way, I now prefer a couple of hours before bedtime. 200 k for a couple of rounds should be enough. I have regular girls that I see now so the sessions are very intimate with me adding an additional 50 K for some for total GFE experience. Never pay upfront !!

Knowledge
10-14-18, 15:45
You are a seasoned traveler, you get it. I'm looking forward to reading about the rest of your trip.


Touchdown in Medellin from Miami. I booked a last minute room at the Mansion before my fligh and they charged about 370 k a night which is about 100 k above the cash price. I only booked for one night as I like to change hotels in case I don't like it. Also booked airport pickup for 70 k from the hotel as this was my first time in Colombia with almost zero Spanish. My first surprise was how far the airport is from the El Poplado about 50 min drive. The hotel looks looks classy but outdated, everything looks straight from 90's at the Mansion.

Chaman
10-14-18, 18:52
Seen a girl called Yennifer Taborda last night.

Really pretty girl with a nice body.

She brought a few blunts so I shared one with her then got down to business.

Good BBJ, nice pussy and good fuck. First time I cum, she put on Google translate I am going for a smoke then I want some more.

Really enjoyed myself, she kept rubbing her clit when we were fucking, she was either very into it or a good actress.

Again paid her 200.

Is this the taborda girl you see?

https://www.facebook.com/jenny.taborda.338?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab

SoberHans69
10-14-18, 19:36
Is this the taborda girl you see?

https://www.facebook.com/jenny.taborda.338?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tabNo this one.

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100013174540823&ref=content_filter

VickyRai
10-14-18, 20:47
You can PM me for specific contact.I have been getting tons of requests for facebook links of the girls I met. I don't mind sharing but it should be two way street. Please send the details of your favorites too so that we can all benefit from this board.

JjBee62
10-14-18, 20:58
Is this the taborda girl you see?

https://www.facebook.com/jenny.taborda.338?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tabNope. At least based on his description. Try this one:

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100013174540823

Rumor has it she's a bit of a nymphomaniac.

Houstonian
10-14-18, 22:30
Okay, I know I'm probably going to get blasted with RTFF responses to this question, but here goes. I see frequent references on this forum to Facebook girls. Can someone give me a basic tutorial on how it works, where to find them, etc? And yes, I RTFF but still don't understand it. Many thanks in advance!

SBTiger
10-14-18, 23:53
KCOP is thousand Colombian pesos. Very, very roughly 3000 COP (3 k cop) is $1 US. So instead of writing 150,000, most will write 150 k, 150 k cop or just 150, which is roughly $50. If the $ is included, assume that's US dollars.

150 k is your baseline price for Facebook, Tinder or other online girls. Some will be higher, some will be lower. Girls in casas usually cost 50 k for 30 minutes. There are minor variations, and a few places where the price is much higher.

Strip clubs typically the charge is 80 k in El Centro, 180 k at Fase Dos and 300 k at La Isla. Street girls generally ask for 30-50 k. Other bars, varies widely. At Gusto they might ask from $100 to $300, or you might find one for 200 k. In El Centro bars can be from 40 k to 100 k.

Lots of guys are zero Spanish. It's an issue, but it's an issue you can overcome. You'll have some difficulty. You should be able to work around it.Thanks, the strip club prices you mention assuming are prices fro girls (Is there any entrance fees? Are drink prices etc reasonable or there are scams - "ladies drinks" and whatever else. (need to understand the mechanics and not get unnecessarily surprised - can be a mood spoiler).

Do these places provide a place or that is all outside on your own - ST hotels etc.

Sam.

Knowledge
10-15-18, 00:33
It's been covered but here is the Reader's Digest version. Lady drink prices I can't comment on because I've never bought one. That is a comment of a sort. It means buying ladies drinks is optional. When in doubt, ask the price and pay as they are brought to you so you don't have to negotiate the bill after the fact. All the strip clubs have rooms on site. The prices quoted are for using them with the girl of your choice. You can take the girl out with you for an extra fee. I think I covered everything but if not, use the search box at the upper right corner of this page and read the forum.


Thanks, the strip club prices you mention assuming are prices fro girls (Is there any entrance fees? Are drink prices etc reasonable or there are scams - "ladies drinks" and whatever else. (need to understand the mechanics and not get unnecessarily surprised - can be a mood spoiler).

Do these places provide a place or that is all outside on your own - ST hotels etc.

Sam.

Jayson01
10-15-18, 00:41
This is a typo right? From my experience chicks in BE start at 80K and will many times go down to 60K. I think 180K is Fase 2 pricing.I think she said 80 and another 80 for the room. I might have overcharged with the room, should it be included in the first 80 ?

Jayson01
10-15-18, 01:34
On my second day I woke up late still in awe with the vaste selection of beautiful in this town. If I would compare to Dubai which was one of my favorite place for diversity, I would say women are much more passionate here but the communication is easier in Dubai as english speaker.

I kept an eye on La Vane list for the day time action. I asked Vane for maybe 3 girls but she could only provide one of them, which was a 10/10 but that girl wanted for 400 for the the hour plus, now I know some of you guys here get "Por toda Noche" for 400 k so I could not accept that. Vane said she can't do anything about price some girls ask but there are some for 250 k if I wanted. Later I found out the girl had a fake ass and she was willing to go 300 k now, but I declined. Obviously the "popular" can ask for more even on the list.

At the end I went with a mixed girl with really great curves and fit round ass, judging from the the picture at least. Vane send her for 250 k, when she came to my door she was much shorter than I expected giving her petit look, I a prefer medium tall girl. She was about 22 years, short but fit, golden skin giving her that typical Brazilian look. We google translated a while first but I didn't know she was clock watcher so the the session stared later. The session itself was nothing special as she had baby damage plus she started to stress me with the time. She also tells me she had kids and needed to go on time. What is it with this young girls all having kids? So I sent her home and told Vane I'm not satisfied with her, she promised to send better next time. Thinking back tt seems to me Vane can't provide the natural, top of the notch girls. But we will see.

JjBee62
10-15-18, 02:28
I think she said 80 and another 80 for the room. I might have overcharged with the room, should it be included in the first 80 ?80 should be the total, room included. If someone tried to charge me 80 k for one of those rooms for 30 minutes, I'd laugh in their face. To compare, the best love motel in the city, Motel Ibiza, charges 90 k for 6 hours with jacuzzi, stripper pole, great shower and all the fixings.

JjBee62
10-15-18, 02:38
Thanks, the strip club prices you mention assuming are prices fro girls (Is there any entrance fees? Are drink prices etc reasonable or there are scams - "ladies drinks" and whatever else. (need to understand the mechanics and not get unnecessarily surprised - can be a mood spoiler).

Do these places provide a place or that is all outside on your own - ST hotels etc.

Sam.I don't believe any of the El Centro strip clubs charge an entrance fee. Fase Dos charges 10 k entrance fee. Beer and drink prices in El Centro are reasonable. I think chica drinks run around 10 k. Fase Dos drinks are expensive. Every place I know of has on site rooms.

Buying lady drinks is a waste of money. In the bar and in the right be aware. Had a girl in one club try to sneak her fingers into my pocket. Had another girl manage to sneak a 50 k bill out of my pants pocket in the room. Didn't notice it until I left the room.

Jai887
10-15-18, 03:35
Hey guys,

Me and my friends are going to Colombia Medellin for the first time. Wanted to see if why'all can share some of the Facebook girls that you have had great experience with. Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance and if we come across anyone new I'll definitely let y'all know so you can add them to list for the next visit.

And can someone please tell me how do y'all find them on Facebook. I tried searching for Medellin Columbia in Facebook and a bunch of girls come up but how do you know if they are actually working girls? Sorry I am a newbie if this is a stupid question.

For spending a weekend there, which will be a good hotel to stay? From everything I have read they charge if you bring guest with you. Is there a hotel that doesn't charge?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers.

Jayson01
10-15-18, 04:18
80 should be the total, room included. If someone tried to charge me 80 k for one of those rooms for 30 minutes, I'd laugh in their face. To compare, the best love motel in the city, Motel Ibiza, charges 90 k for 6 hours with jacuzzi, stripper pole, great shower and all the fixings.Thanks!

Its not easy to scam me when I know the market price, but this time I didn't know my bad. I guess was busy avoiding the 200 USD at Gustos LOL.

SBTiger
10-15-18, 05:44
...

I kept an eye on La Vane list for the day time action. I asked Vane for maybe 3 girls but she could only provide one of them, which was a 10/10 but that girl wanted for 400 for the the hour plus, now I know some of you guys here get "Por toda Noche" for 400 k so I could not accept that. Vane said she can't do anything about price some girls ask but there are some for 250 k if I wanted. Later I found out the girl had a fake ass and she was willing to go 300 k now, but I declined. Obviously the "popular" can ask for more even on the list. ....

.What is this La Vane list?

Thanks.

SBTiger
10-15-18, 05:51
It's been covered but here is the Reader's Digest version. Lady drink prices I can't comment on because I've never bought one. That is a comment of a sort. It means buying ladies drinks is optional. When in doubt, ask the price and pay as they are brought to you so you don't have to negotiate the bill after the fact. All the strip clubs have rooms on site. The prices quoted are for using them with the girl of your choice. You can take the girl out with you for an extra fee. I think I covered everything but if not, use the search box at the upper right corner of this page and read the forum."The prices quoted are for using them with the girl of your choice" - good to know.

10 K drinks ( 3-4 $ sounds fine). Just curious what the drink prices are outside of strip clubs?prices

The massage prices were indicated at ~50K but the website of jadespapoblado says $70/30 min. Something missing?

More you know. Less the surprises and more the confidence.

Thanks.

Mr Enternational
10-15-18, 11:46
Buying lady drinks is a waste of money.I have never understood buying drinks for hookers. In my mind, you buy drinks for chicks to try to kiss up to them and/or get them drunk so you can try to fuck them. Why buy a drink for a hooker when you already know she is actually there to fuck? In what other situation would you buy drinks for someone you are considering hiring.

Smoothy
10-15-18, 12:05
I have never understood buying drinks for hookers. In my mind, you buy drinks for chicks to try to kiss up to them and/or get them drunk so you can try to fuck them. Why buy a drink for a hooker when you already know she is actually there to fuck? In what other situation would you buy drinks for someone you are considering hiring.My guess then is that you do not have girls rim your ass very often then. To have even a hooker do that with any excitement, they need to be a bit drunk. If they are sober, they will often refuse, but get them a bit tipsy and they will bury their face in your ass without thinking twice. I find the fuck is always wilder if the girl is tipsy regardless if she is a hooker or not.

JjBee62
10-15-18, 12:12
What is this La Vane list?

Thanks.An overpriced waste of time.

If you search out last Vane restrepo on Facebook, you can send her a message. If it's the right girl, she'll eventually add you to a WhatsApp group, where she posts pictures of the girls she pimps. Whichever girl you want, you send a message to La Vane and she'll tell you the girl isn't available. Or the girl is double what you expected to pay, or the girl can't be there for 3 hours, which will be at least 6 hours.

It's like an escort service that no longer cares about customer satisfaction.

JjBee62
10-15-18, 12:18
"The prices quoted are for using them with the girl of your choice" - good to know.

10 K drinks ( 3-4 $ sounds fine). Just curious what the drink prices are outside of strip clubs?prices

The massage prices were indicated at ~50K but the website of jadespapoblado says $70/30 min. Something missing?

More you know. Less the surprises and more the confidence.

Thanks.Unless things have changed dramatically, Jade Spa in El Poblado is the last place you want to go. The women tend to be older and less attractive and the service is not worth the price. Just as a rule of thumb, if a place has a website with prices in US dollars, they're overcharging. Last I heard they charged 150 k for 1 hour.

However, right across the street is a good place to eat shwarma.

JjBee62
10-15-18, 12:34
I have never understood buying drinks for hookers. In my mind, you buy drinks for chicks to try to kiss up to them and/or get them drunk so you can try to fuck them. Why buy a drink for a hooker when you already know she is actually there to fuck? In what other situation would you buy drinks for someone you are considering hiring.If I'm going to a new place and I want to figure out the prices, available talent, best time to visit, etc. , then I might buy a drink or two to get the information. I did this at Bar Montijo in Medellin, just a block from the Parque Berrio station. Never did make it back to pull the trigger, although their small group of girls looked better than the standard El Centro strip club talent. I think it was 7 k for the little chica beer.

Bar Montijo. Transversal 49 #50-25 (or very close) 4 to 6 girls, beer 3 k, 80 k for 30 minutes.

JjBee62
10-15-18, 13:07
Hey guys,

Me and my friends are going to Colombia Medellin for the first time. Wanted to see if why'all can share some of the Facebook girls that you have had great experience with. Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance and if we come across anyone new I'll definitely let y'all know so you can add them to list for the next visit.No you won't. Maybe you're the exception, but every time someone comes along asking for information and promising information in return, they never come back with the information. However, some do come back and ask for more information.


And can someone please tell me how do y'all find them on Facebook. I tried searching for Medellin Columbia in Facebook and a bunch of girls come up but how do you know if they are actually working girls? Sorry I am a newbie if this is a stupid question. Well, if I was looking for girls on Facebook and I wanted to find girls in Medellin who fucked Gringos for money, I'd probably look for the girls that have a lot of gringo friends, or a lot of gringos commenting or liking their posts and pictures.


For spending a weekend there, which will be a good hotel to stay? From everything I have read they charge if you bring guest with you. Is there a hotel that doesn't charge?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers.You haven't read very much. If you had read more you would have discovered a few Facebook links, how to find Facebook girls and your best options for chica friendly lodging, including some options where you won't be charged extra for the chicas.

Do you know what happens when someone shares the contact info for a girl they've had a great time with? Within 4 hours someone has sent the girl a link to the forum post and now she's pissed off at the person who shared her information. Plus she gets bombarded with friend requests and a whole bunch of messages from guys trying to get her to send nude pics. In some cases, the girl shuts down her Facebook, in some cases she stops seeing gringos and in some cases she starts charging more.

To make it worse, the girls I've had a great time with, might not be what you're looking for. So I'm supposed to jeopardize my future sessions with girls that you may not be interested in?

What's in it for me? I might get the name of a new girl? If I can find over 200 in just 15 minutes a day for a few months, I can probably find anyone you come up with.

You have some options.

1. RTFF. Read the fucking forum. The questions you have, have all been asked and answered before. Everything you need, and a bunch of stuff you don't know that you need, is in the forum.

2. Hire a local guide.

BlueChange
10-15-18, 15:40
It's that time of year. The University girls are half way done, they need to pony up for the semester, buy the latest iphone and generally need to suck to live.

Yennifer. 200 K.

She is a tits on legs. Super skinny with ballon like see cup tits that seperate and each have their own time zone they don't ever touch. Her face is angelic and she got a nose job to match. Fake ass as well. And of course a GIANT tattoo of a dragon across her stomach that goes around to her side. I don't get it but it's like they hide the tatto in photos and they know it is not that desired but DAMN fuck this tattooo.

Anyway, she is all business. Won't do oral naturale, won't even let me finish on her tits. I have to cum in the condom. SHe is all looks and no feeling. Her kisses weren't half bad but the fact that she was reserved bothered me. I sent her packing after we finished.

Fun fact, I fucked her best friend for free a couple years back, I was going to tell her vut decided to pass. Oh well.

Salmon. 150 K plus 100 K for a Facial, leche en boca, oral natural.

I like her, we connect. I have seen her a couple times. She is about 5 7, a little light carmel with bolt on tits like shy love. We always have fun, I know her real name and when we fuck it is like boyfriend and girlfriend. Today she let me do my favorite. A facal with a fuck to pop. I was railing her and as I am about to cum, she helps me rip off the rubber and shoot a giant 8 roper in her face, mouth, all over! She laughs half way thru because she can not belive how much is cumming out! I didn't tell her but I have been taking the cum holy grail pill cocktail and it shows!! She doesn't do faicals for everyone and you have to know her for some time. Her apartment is clean but she will NEVER see you out side of normal daytime hours (she has a family / kid etc).

Andre. 150 K.

Totaly waste of time. I had to go all rhe way to her apartment in Belen. The apartment was such a pain in the ass to navigate. She was a bait and switch. I showed up I should have gone away. Fuck! What a waste. Only cool thing is she had an egg vibrator that I was playing with and had more fun with then her. Her photo was a 8 but in person a solid 5.

Amber 200 K.

WOw, talk about a real ****! She is viisting from baranquilla for a couple months. She is about 5 1 weights 90 lbs and totally loves to fuck and get it in the face. I find out more that with my blood test she will do BB with a cream pie. I didn't cum inside cause she had a face full of make up that I wanted to mess up but she was totally open. I am soo thankful for these types. She stayed for 6 hours too all for 200 K. Good girl. Def a keeper.


PS I cleared out my inbox, sorry for all those who were trying to get thru

Mr Enternational
10-15-18, 15:48
My guess then is that you do not have girls rim your ass very often then. To have even a hooker do that with any excitement, they need to be a bit drunk. If they are sober, they will often refuse, but get them a bit tipsy and they will bury their face in your ass without thinking twice. I find the fuck is always wilder if the girl is tipsy regardless if she is a hooker or not.The only way this makes sense is if you were with a chick the first time and she was sober and she refused xyz. Then you were with her the second time and she was tipsy or drunk and she did xyz with excitement. You then were with her a third time; she was again sober and refused xyz. Otherwise it is working off pure assumption to say a chick will not do something if she was not drinking.

I have had plenty of hookers and non-hookers lick my ass and they were not drunk. As a matter of fact, last night I was with a particular non-pro for the first time. Another non-pro that I used to mess with hooked me up with her. She said if her friend asks, do not tell her that we used to see each other. Sure enough the chick asked how I met her and I told her to ask her friend. Anyway one thing was leading to another. She started sucking my fingers and before I knew it, she was licking my ass before even sucking my dick. The bad part about it was that I had to wake up at 5:30 am to get her home to change clothes and then drop her off at work.

There are three things that a pro and non-pro that I have seen more than once knows: 1. Do not show up to my place with make-up on, 2. Do not show up with panties on (I was driving home with one chick and I started fingering her. I said wait a minute; what are you doing with panties on? She said I know; I was going to take them off before we get there.) and 3. Do not show up drunk. I guess once again YMMV.

Smoothy
10-15-18, 20:35
1. Do not show up to my place with make-up onIf a girl shows up at my place without makeup, I would consider that an insult and make her put on makeup before we get down to business. I will not do any girl who is not wearing makeup. Point of principle.

Manizales911
10-15-18, 20:37
I have never understood buying drinks for hookers. In my mind, you buy drinks for chicks to try to kiss up to them and/or get them drunk so you can try to fuck them. Why buy a drink for a hooker when you already know she is actually there to fuck? In what other situation would you buy drinks for someone you are considering hiring.Guys buy drinks for hookers because we are not all cheap fucks, to each their own.

Wolf662
10-15-18, 20:50
I have never understood buying drinks for hookers. At a strip club if I sit and have a drink with the girl and we hang out and talk some 1st it gives me a better idea of our compatibility, how either cool / sweet / sexy / fun she might be, all which can add up to a better time in between the sheets.

Balboa
10-15-18, 21:36
Guys buy drinks for hookers because we are not all cheap fucks, to each their own.I've heard that some are actually nice people, and it's cool to show a little kindness towards them, LOL.

Like you said, to each their own, it's all a fluid situation, depending on the vibe, their attitude, etc, etc.