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Knowledge
05-16-19, 18:23
So continuing the theme of scuzzy sessions rooms that are best to avoid, I would like to call out chicaspunto.com. I might get on the bad side of puntocom Stans but so be it. I call them the way I see them. As bad as Yakuza is, puntocom is only slightly better. There is a lot to be said for running water in session rooms and puntocom has it but let's just say I recommend keeping your socks on when in and around the puntocom beds.


So did you get deloused to insure no lice or other parasites were present afterwards. When I was in New Delhi the hookers I saw in front of the brothels were fat, disgusting, and grotesque. Sorry to say India is one big trash dump, and I can envision what you described the room was like.

Bottom Feeder
05-16-19, 19:22
Where do gringos congregate? I'd like to swap a few stories.

Surfer500
05-16-19, 21:56
Where do gringos congregate? I'd like to swap a few stories.El Centro!

Knowledge
05-17-19, 00:53
Juan Valdez Cafe, Parque Lleras.


Where do gringos congregate? I'd like to swap a few stories.

Siyaminches
05-17-19, 04:10
What are some trusted short time hotels near Parque Botero, Parque Bolivar, and Parque Lleras?

In an old report, I've read of a guy who got robbed at a hotel near Parque Botero. But the report later mentioned a cop who said this was just a rare occurrence. Now, I will be unable to bring back any girl to my place of stay. I want to know of some hotels that you guys trust in those three areas. Hotels that will check the girl's ID are very much preferred.

Orgasmico
05-17-19, 05:21
Juan Valdez Cafe, Parque Lleras.Also Hooters in Lleras is probably another spot with a lot of gringos.

PaisaPorFavor
05-17-19, 05:26
In prado now but haven't seen other gringos


El Centro!.

Mr Gogo
05-17-19, 07:03
Where do gringos congregate? I'd like to swap a few stories.Sweet GS is the best spot for gringos and expats to congregate IMO. Good food, great ambience and a nice collection of foreigners from Canada, America and Europe. Male and female expats trade info on Sura insurance, transportation, accommodations etc. Sweet GS is in Laureles. Just hangout and absorb the info.

My gym is right around the corner from Sweet GS so I stop in there daily to have the grilled chicken salad with avacotoes, carrots, broccoli spinach and grilled chicken slices with a bottle of water for 20 k.

The best hangout in El Pablado to me is Chica boom. Nice available waitresses, 10 TVs with basketball and soccer and a jamming DJ. Get an outdoor table by the street to checkout the talent, grab a snack platter, and soak everything up. Watch the prices on mix drinks because they add up quickly.

Throw in Jennylao and club California in Laureles if you like black Colombians and there you have it.

Turgid
05-17-19, 10:22
So continuing the theme of scuzzy sessions rooms that are best to avoid, I would like to call out chicaspunto.com. I might get on the bad side of puntocom Stans but so be it. I call them the way I see them. As bad as Yakuza is, puntocom is only slightly better. There is a lot to be said for running water in session rooms and puntocom has it but let's just say I recommend keeping your socks on when in and around the puntocom beds.I have been to many casas in Medellin where the rooms are worse than chicaspuntocom. I have been to many rooms in cpc and some are better than others. I got to know the lovely mamasan well and she eventually used to give me a good room on the upper level with porn on tv and what not.

Kafka
05-17-19, 15:22
Thank you man. I feel validated. I really don't know how these guys are paying 500 k or 600 k TLN. I have many amigas that I've known for many years. I've help them out in a bind. 50 k here and there Over the years. In return I have received freebies and connected with there other like minded barrio girlfriends. For me that's priceless. The networking takes time guys.I pay this I pay that. Bottom line is we pay.

Fun Luvr
05-17-19, 16:42
Yeah she loves you. What are you 75?Reading problem? Third sentence of his report says he is 22.

Midwest
05-17-19, 19:26
Where do gringos congregate? I'd like to swap a few stories.Don't bother with Hooters in Parque Lleras. I was there a few years back. When I arrived on a Monday night I asked them if they're having American Football and they said yes, then they closed early before the game was over & kicked me and some guys at another table that had just ordered drinks!

That was before I discovered Patrick's Irish Bar, also in Parque Llleras. The owner & staff are really nice, the waitresses way cuter & friendlier and plenty of expats, mostly from USA there.

In the daytime you might want to try Juan Valdez, also in Parque Lleras. Nice place to sit, have good coffee, people watch & see who comes in.

Just google Patrick's Irish Bar, Parque Lleras & Juan Valdez, Parque Lleras for exact addresses.

Hope this helps.

StefanKa
05-17-19, 21:40
What are some trusted short time hotels near Parque Botero, Parque Bolivar, and Parque Lleras?

In an old report, I've read of a guy who got robbed at a hotel near Parque Botero. But the report later mentioned a cop who said this was just a rare occurrence. Now, I will be unable to bring back any girl to my place of stay. I want to know of some hotels that you guys trust in those three areas. Hotels that will check the girl's ID are very much preferred.I can recommend 3 D Suites because I was there recently and I liked it. It's very clean.

Taxi can drive you right in through the gate and the main lobby is right there on the left.

Just say you need room and they will give you the room number.

Try to get pedestrian suite because it's most affordable ($65 mil).

You don't need ID so you can leave your passport at home.

They have Surveillance Cameras everywhere but if you are still afraid of being robbed just take as much money as you are willing to loose.

There is a window in each room which you will use to pay after you done.

Take the elevator down and wait in the lobby till they confirm that you didn't left anything in the room by mistake.

Ask them to call for taxi or use an app.

Enjoy.

Link here: https://3dsuite.co/tarifas.

Address: Calle 51 # 69 47 Medellíand.

Coupe66
05-17-19, 22:53
A while back I asked here how busy it is in Medellin from mid June to late July? I got the impression that it's not noticeably busier from a few who answered this.

But flight prices from Europe go through the roof from mid June onwards, so either there aren't many flights there or it DEFINITELY does get much busier! I'm asking because of costs (of flights and accommodation), but also because Medellin is already the Colombian city with the most tourists / foreigners, and I really wouldn't want to be there then if the place will be absolutely heaving with people like me! I prefer to be around locals than others tourist on the whole. So, will it be heaving with gringo's in late June / July, or not particularly?

Surfer500
05-17-19, 23:46
What are some trusted short time hotels near Parque Botero, Parque Bolivar, and Parque Lleras?

In an old report, I've read of a guy who got robbed at a hotel near Parque Botero. But the report later mentioned a cop who said this was just a rare occurrence. Now, I will be unable to bring back any girl to my place of stay. I want to know of some hotels that you guys trust in those three areas. Hotels that will check the girl's ID are very much preferred.Try Hotel Premium Plaza in the Botero area, same side as the Museum halfway between the Museum and Veracruz Church. They will check girls ID's and the rooms are very clean. Not aware of any short time Hotels around Parque LLeras.

Orgasmico
05-17-19, 23:47
A while back I asked here how busy it is in Medellin from mid June to late July? I got the impression that it's not noticeably busier from a few who answered this.

You got Feria de las Flores and other things happening during those months through August plus the weather is dryer so it's high season.

Mr Enternational
05-18-19, 00:10
A while back I asked here how busy it is in Medellin from mid June to late July? I got the impression that it's not noticeably busier from a few who answered this.

But flight prices from Europe go through the roof from mid June onwards, so either there aren't many flights there or it DEFINITELY does get much busier! I'm asking because of costs (of flights and accommodation), but also because Medellin is already the Colombian city with the most tourists / foreigners, and I really wouldn't want to be there then if the place will be absolutely heaving with people like me! I prefer to be around locals than others tourist on the whole. So, will it be heaving with gringo's in late June / July, or not particularly?It is a normal city. Not really a foreigner tourist destination. Most of the foreigners you see will be backpackers in the Parque Lleras area. How many people do you personally know that have mentioned wanting to go to Medellin, or even Colombia for that matter?

Kmacc222
05-18-19, 01:06
Hi all,

I'm preparing for my maiden voyage to Medellin at the end of June and I've been soaking up as much knowledge as I can from this board, just want to say thank you to everyone who contributes. Just a couple of questions.

Has anyone stayed in the energy Living building, how was your experience there overall? Also, how Chica Friendly is the Energy living building? We're a group of 5 guys and were planning on reserving a couple of apartments through Airbnb towards the end of June. Will we get strange looks from the front desk every time we bring girls back or is it fairly common for chicas to visit guest there.

MillerTime 55
05-18-19, 02:11
You lost me. I can barely understand being concerned about using "girls" instead of "women", but I'm baffled how that would identify someone as a lesbian.

At least once a week someone will ask about girl friendly, or chica friendly accommodations. I've never seen anyone ask if a place is woman friendly. Or they'll talk about Facebook girls (which is the context the OP used), but never about Facebook women. If you read through the forum, I believe you'll find that "girls" are referenced "more often than "women."Apparently, you didn't see the "Tamara" at the end of the post as another poster noted.

Maybe next time I'll be more careful, providing the poster can tell us why Tamara is added to the end?.

BlueBudgie
05-18-19, 02:32
Hey guys,

I am seeding a facebook profile for a trip later this year. I've added maybe a couple dozen chicas based off of one profile that someone posted on here a few weeks back. Of course I have no idea if the ones I'm adding are working girls or not I'm just adding the ones that are wearing skimpy outfits. Anyway if anyone would care to post some other profiles of girls I can scour off of that would be great.

ColombiaLover
05-18-19, 02:34
That the city is being overrun by gringos, but over the past 14 years, I have noticed an uptick. And not just backpackers. Real tourists with real money. Medellin has gotten a lot of press in mainstream publications here in the USA And is being touted hard to potential retirees. But if you leave Poblado, you won't see many, if any, other than in centro and those are almost completely mongers.

In the summer, you also see a lot of Colombians (or those of Colombian descent) who live elsewhere come home, especially for the Flower Festival. All that said, I've had no problems getting good deals on my flights to MDE in May, June, July, and August. And the only time the guy renting my apartment has tried to up the charge is for the flower festival (which is why I might spend a few days in Cali instead).


It is a normal city. Not really a foreigner tourist destination. Most of the foreigners you see will be backpackers in the Parque Lleras area. How many people do you personally know that have mentioned wanting to go to Medellin, or even Colombia for that matter?

Surfer500
05-18-19, 03:09
It is a normal city. Not really a foreigner tourist destination. Most of the foreigners you see will be backpackers in the Parque Lleras area. How many people do you personally know that have mentioned wanting to go to Medellin, or even Colombia for that matter?Medellin in my opinion has become a tourist destination based on my observations during the last three years. There are now daily bus tours of the City originating from Parque Poblado in Parque Poblado. Numerous new Hostels have been established in the barrios of Patio Bonito, Astorga, Manila, and Provenza in Poblado for the backpackers along with hundreds of apartments and hotels that cater to tourists. This is evidenced by all of the English speaking people I have noticed in the barrios I've mentioned. Additionally there are English speaking guided tours of El Centro during the day of the Botero area around the museum and the Veracruz Church. Along with a recently opened upscale coffee shop (Tazo) and ice cream stand right in the middle of ground zero of El Centro. For the tour groups I have seen being conducted during the day, the participants have no idea what the place is like in the evening and I have never seen a tour group taken down the side of the Church along transvestite row.

JjBee62
05-18-19, 05:11
A while back I asked here how busy it is in Medellin from mid June to late July? I got the impression that it's not noticeably busier from a few who answered this.

But flight prices from Europe go through the roof from mid June onwards, so either there aren't many flights there or it DEFINITELY does get much busier! I'm asking because of costs (of flights and accommodation), but also because Medellin is already the Colombian city with the most tourists / foreigners, and I really wouldn't want to be there then if the place will be absolutely heaving with people like me! I prefer to be around locals than others tourist on the whole. So, will it be heaving with gringo's in late June / July, or not particularly?Parque Lleras is heaving with gringos year round, except it's not really that many. You'll see a few here and there, you'll hear English being spoken, but it's not like Disneyworld in July.

Outside of Lleras, you'll rarely spot a gringo, except at some of the more popular casas, or if you stumble upon a tour group.

The time to do tourist stuff is early in the week, in the morning. Less people.

KillaCam11
05-18-19, 13:47
I will start off by saying I'm in my 20's so experience will vary greatly due to age. An experience I had few months ago at Luna Lunera, it was a weekday around 4 ish. Went in, immediately the chicas came up to introduce themselves, none were that hot. The two that were hot, already with other gringos. After the intro, they would not gtfo my face, I almost felt obligated to invite one to sit with me so I pick the next hottest chick, late 20's, huge bolt ONS (not my thing) and decent ass. I would give her a 6-7. We sit and talk, I order a brew for me and a mix drink for her. It was expensive for Medellin standards. Whatever, we continue talking and she wants me to go back with her for an hour, think she quoted 200 k or something ridiculous. I'm not paying that for a chick that's not too attractive so I pass. I ask if she will dance for me, she says 80 k for 15 minutes (not sure on time) and we go to the room off to the side. She starts dancing, I was hoping this would convince me to go bang her after seeing her naked but it did not, I turned her down again. At this point I think she is just going to keep dancing but she gets on her knees and unzips my pants to starts giving me head. I didn't ask for it, had no expectations of it either. Once she is done, doesn't ask for a propina, just gives me her number. I think a small gesture like buying her a drink went a longs way with her. Being nice to these chicas may not yield anything more every time but to me it doesn't hurt to do it.

I usually make about 4-5 trips to Mde a year, staying a week or a two a time. I will buy the chicas drinks, party favors, and meals. Why? Because I already do all that so why not share that experience with her. Maybe it yields something more down the line but that's never my expectation, I do it because I am looking to have fun and get the best experience. I go down there to bang chicks otherwise I can't. I'm not going down to bang a 5-6. I want 8-10 if I am paying for it. I can get 5-6 here anytime, I have no interest in that. The 8-10 are a little more expensive, I am fine with that, I want a little more quality. Am I overpaying a little? Probably am but by not much. I usually pay anywhere between 300-600 TLN. I get the service I want (BBJ, multiple polvos, kissing, clean and fresh smelling chick). Some of you argue you can get all of that in centro and I believe it but there is also a time factor that I have to consider. Some of you may be here for weeks to months at a time where as I am here for a week or two at max. I can't spend half my time looking for these discounted chicks in centro, I would waste my whole vacation. Maybe I am exaggerating the time you spend looking for these diamonds in the rough. I consider my time very valuable just like you all should. I can spend X amount of time looking for that diamond in centro or logon to my computer and work for a few hours and get 8-10 chica and she arrives at my doorstep (obviously never the time we agreed to and 1-2 hours late).

Everyone's situation is different, whether you factor in age or income. To say I overpay just because I am stupid or naive isn't correct. I overpay because the time spent finding that much cheaper chick, I could login to my computer and make that amount (most likely more than that). For me after time / cost are weighed this works for me. 300-600 k for TLN for a 8-10 chica with the service I want. I will continue to buy these chicks drinks, party favors, and food because I don't mind and tow certain degree I think it improves the service, who knows it could lead to something more beneficial for me. Even if it doesn't, I will still continue with this trend. One thing I will say, after offering drinks / party favors they open up a lot more and the experience goes to a different level. I forgot to mention I am not fully fluent in Espanol but I understand most of the words so I have a general idea of what they are saying and able to converse with them so my interactions are not basic which may also help. They always compliment my language skills, they are almost relieved. Most are thankful I am not like the other gringos. My tips are learn the language (can't stress how important that is), be friendly with the chicas and take care of them and they will reciprocate.

Knowledge
05-18-19, 14:30
I really enjoyed your report. You burst some guys' bubbles by revealing that some of the Parque Lleras girls asking for up to 300 K are doing dates during the day for 30 K. Same girls, different punters. I am impressed. For a first time visitor you did extremely well. I know guys who have been going to Medellin for 10 years who still can't navigate the way you did.


Just finished up my first trip to Medellin.

Knowledge
05-18-19, 14:40
He is coming from Europe. June is the beginning of high season for any scheduled flight originating there. Charters are much cheaper but there are few if any direct charters to Colombia from Europe. You can get cheap charter flights to Florida, Brazil, Argentina and then connect but that is a lot of flying.


You got Feria de las Flores and other things happening during those months through August plus the weather is dryer so it's high season.

Knowledge
05-18-19, 14:42
Affordable flights from the USA are easier to find during that period than affordable flights from Europe.


That the city is being overrun by gringos, but over the past 14 years, I have noticed an uptick. And not just backpackers. Real tourists with real money. Medellin has gotten a lot of press in mainstream publications here in the USA And is being touted hard to potential retirees. But if you leave Poblado, you won't see many, if any, other than in centro and those are almost completely mongers.

In the summer, you also see a lot of Colombians (or those of Colombian descent) who live elsewhere come home, especially for the Flower Festival. All that said, I've had no problems getting good deals on my flights to MDE in May, June, July, and August. And the only time the guy renting my apartment has tried to up the charge is for the flower festival (which is why I might spend a few days in Cali instead).

Knowledge
05-18-19, 19:21
Haha! True, there are many daily guided tours around Centro, especially Botero / Museum / Veracruz and I can't remember ever seeing them go down tranny row. I was surprised to once hear a tourguide warn against getting involved with providers of the wrong age. I later saw the group being led down the stroll behind the church, the area often described on gringo boards like this one as a "no go zone".


Medellin in my opinion has become a tourist destination based on my observations during the last three years. There are now daily bus tours of the City originating from Parque Poblado in Parque Poblado. Numerous new Hostels have been established in the barrios of Patio Bonito, Astorga, Manila, and Provenza in Poblado for the backpackers along with hundreds of apartments and hotels that cater to tourists. This is evidenced by all of the English speaking people I have noticed in the barrios I've mentioned. Additionally there are English speaking guided tours of El Centro during the day of the Botero area around the museum and the Veracruz Church. Along with a recently opened upscale coffee shop (Tazo) and ice cream stand right in the middle of ground zero of El Centro. For the tour groups I have seen being conducted during the day, the participants have no idea what the place is like in the evening and I have never seen a tour group taken down the side of the Church along transvestite row.

Orgasmico
05-18-19, 20:35
Outside of Lleras, you'll rarely spot a gringo, except at some of the more popular casas, or if you stumble upon a tour group.

Not true!!

Laureles for instance is infested with gringos. I know one that was robbed at gun point a month ago and several others have reported being robbed this week.

Knowledge
05-18-19, 20:41
There is no shortage of gringos in Laureles. The place where this person was robbed is only a short walk from a Starbucks, that says a lot about the gringo population right there.

I have a lot of sympathy for any robbery victim. This person broke a few cardinal rules. All alone in a dark isolated area displaying an item of high value. Guys, we have to give ourselves a chance to be safe. I don't agree the iPad has to stay home but it does have to stay stashed out on the street when there is no one else around. I can see how this victim looked like easy pickings from a distance.


Not true!!

Laureles for instance is infested with gringos. I know one that was robbed at gun point a month ago and several others have reported being robbed this week.

IamLookin
05-18-19, 20:50
Laureles is very popular for americans and canadians. I know I stay there myself.


Not true!!

Laureles for instance is infested with gringos. I know one that was robbed at gun point a month ago and several others have reported being robbed this week.

Orgasmico
05-18-19, 21:12
I have a lot of sympathy for any robbery victim. This person broke a few cardinal rules. Most people I know that have gotten their cellphones stolen are actually Colombianas. Also just about everyone I know who has a bike has gotten one stolen.

Knowledge
05-18-19, 21:20
Most people who had anything happen to them in Medellin are Colombian of course. Most mongers in Colombia are Colombian. I can tell you understand that but that bit of truth seems to get muddled on gringo forums. I read Colombian provider guides regularly. If they ever mention gringos it is so rare that I can't remember ever seeing it. Those forums are about the girls and the game. Guys don't spend much time talking about themselves or how much money they have or what their language ability is.


Most people I know that have gotten their cellphones stolen are actually Colombianas. Also just about everyone I know who has a bike has gotten one stolen.

The Tall Man
05-18-19, 22:59
Most people who had anything happen to them in Medellin are Colombian of course. Most mongers in Colombia are Colombian. I can tell you understand that but that bit of truth seems to get muddled on gringo forums. I read Colombian provider guides regularly. If they ever mention gringos it is so rare that I can't remember ever seeing it. Those forums are about the girls and the game. Guys don't spend much time talking about themselves or how much money they have or what their language ability is.


Most people I know that have gotten their cellphones stolen are actually Colombianas. Also just about everyone I know who has a bike has gotten one stolen.


There is no shortage of gringos in Laureles. The place where this person was robbed is only a short walk from a Starbucks, that says a lot about the gringo population right there.

I have a lot of sympathy for any robbery victim. This person broke a few cardinal rules. All alone in a dark isolated area displaying an item of high value. Guys, we have to give ourselves a chance to be safe. I don't agree the iPad has to stay home but it does have to stay stashed out on the street when there is no one else around. I can see how this victim looked like easy pickings from a distance.


Not true!!

Laureles for instance is infested with gringos. I know one that was robbed at gun point a month ago and several others have reported being robbed this week.These banditos look and search for weak victims, weather they be local Colombians or gringos, people of small stature and those who are "bating from the other team" (ie gay) are always the easiest targets.

These fools are not stupid, they look at me and say WTF no way and they are off to find easy prey.

Yesterday on Netflix I was watching the series / documentary about life sentences given to murderers and guess what the killer always searched for, small stature, feminine looking (ie gay) weak men.

So wetaher your in Colombia or the US or where ever, keep an eye open!

The Tall Man.

JjBee62
05-18-19, 23:29
Not true!!

Laureles for instance is infested with gringos. I know one that was robbed at gun point a month ago and several others have reported being robbed this week.Outside of Parque Lleras you will rarely spot a gringo unless you stumble upon a tour group.

There are about 120,000 people in Laureles. 2 gringos getting robbed, hardly qualifies as "infested. " Gringos get robbed wherever they go, usually because they do something stupid.

Yes, there are gringos in Laureles. A lot of gringos move to Laureles to get away from the gringos in El Poblado. But, you will seldom see them. A few here and there. I usually spotted a few each day, especially on the metro, since line 2 of the metro runs out near La Escaleras at Comuna 13, a popular tourist destination.

If you pay attention, you'll spot gringos in many areas of Medellin. Some are easy to spot. Some are difficult to spot. It hardly qualifies as an infestation, except in Parque Lleras.

Prove it to yourself. Go to Laureles. Start on Carrera 70 at UPB and walk to the Estadio metro station. Keep a rough running total of the number of people on the street, along with an exact count of the number of gringos you spot. Now what percentage are gringos? If you get over 1%, you can call it an infestation. If you walk up Avenida Nutibara you'll get a higher number, but it's still way below 1%. If you walk up Avenida Bolivariana you'll get a much lower number.

Of course, maybe that's all changed. Maybe in the past 14 months 1200 more gringos a day have started visiting Laureles.

Or maybe you're one of the guys who, the first time they hear someone speaking English in an area, declares the place to be overrun with gringos.

Mr Enternational
05-18-19, 23:34
Whatever, we continue talking and she wants me to go back with her for an hour, think she quoted 200 k or something ridiculous. I'm not paying that for a chick that's not too attractive so I pass. I ask if she will dance for me, she says 80 k for 15 minutes (not sure on time) and we go to the room off to the side. She starts dancing, I was hoping this would convince me to go bang her after seeing her naked but it did not, I turned her down again. At this point I think she is just going to keep dancing but she gets on her knees and unzips my pants to starts giving me head. I didn't ask for it, had no expectations of it either. Once she is done, doesn't ask for a propina, just gives me her number. I think a small gesture like buying her a drink went a longs way with her. will reciprocate.Does not seem that you added up the figures or maybe something was lost in translation. You could have taken this chick for 1 hour for FS to include dancing, BJ, and fucking for 200K. Instead you opted for dance only for 15 min for 80K? So an hour of dancing would have cost you 320K. Way more than an hour of dancing, BJ, and fucking. Maybe she thought you wanted dancing and BJ and gave you the price of 80K; a little less than half the price of FS and only 1/4 of the time. Seems more like she got over, than her doing you a favor because you were nice.

Blue Touch
05-18-19, 23:40
Where is the ice cream shop? Thank you.


Medellin in my opinion has become a tourist destination based on my observations during the last three years. There are now daily bus tours of the City originating from Parque Poblado in Parque Poblado. Numerous new Hostels have been established in the barrios of Patio Bonito, Astorga, Manila, and Provenza in Poblado for the backpackers along with hundreds of apartments and hotels that cater to tourists. This is evidenced by all of the English speaking people I have noticed in the barrios I've mentioned. Additionally there are English speaking guided tours of El Centro during the day of the Botero area around the museum and the Veracruz Church. Along with a recently opened upscale coffee shop (Tazo) and ice cream stand right in the middle of ground zero of El Centro. For the tour groups I have seen being conducted during the day, the participants have no idea what the place is like in the evening and I have never seen a tour group taken down the side of the Church along transvestite row.

Jayson01
05-18-19, 23:43
I will start off by saying I'm in my 20's so experience will vary greatly due to age. An experience I had few months ago at Luna Lunera, it was a weekday around 4 ish. Went in, immediately the chicas came up to introduce themselves, none were that hot. The two that were hot, already with other gringos. After the intro, they would not gtfo my face, I almost felt obligated to invite one to sit with me so I pick the next hottest chick, late 20's, huge bolt ONS (not my thing) and decent ass. I would give her a 6-7. We sit and talk, I order a brew for me and a mix drink for her. It was expensive for Medellin standards. Whatever, we continue talking and she wants me to go back with her for an hour, think she quoted 200 k or something ridiculous. I'm not paying that for a chick that's not too attractive so I pass. I ask if she will dance for me, she says 80 k for 15 minutes (not sure on time) and we go to the room off to the side. She starts dancing, I was hoping this would convince me to go bang her after seeing her naked but it did not, I turned her down again. At this point I think she is just going to keep dancing but she gets on her knees and unzips my pants to starts giving me head. I didn't ask for it, had no expectations of it either. Once she is done, doesn't ask for a propina, just gives me her number. I think a small gesture like buying her a drink went a longs way with her. Being nice to these chicas may not yield anything more every time but to me it doesn't hurt to do it.

I usually make about 4-5 trips to Mde a year, staying a week or a two a time. I will buy the chicas drinks, party favors, and meals. Why? Because I already do all that so why not share that experience with her. Maybe it yields something more down the line but that's never my expectation, I do it because I am looking to have fun and get the best experience. I go down there to bang chicks otherwise I can't. I'm not going down to bang a 5-6. I want 8-10 if I am paying for it. I can get 5-6 here anytime, I have no interest in that. The 8-10 are a little more expensive, I am fine with that, I want a little more quality. Am I overpaying a little? Probably am but by not much. I usually pay anywhere between 300-600 TLN. I get the service I want (BBJ, multiple polvos, kissing, clean and fresh smelling chick). Some of you argue you can get all of that in centro and I believe it but there is also a time factor that I have to consider. Some of you may be here for weeks to months at a time where as I am here for a week or two at max. I can't spend half my time looking for these discounted chicks in centro, I would waste my whole vacation. Maybe I am exaggerating the time you spend looking for these diamonds in the rough. I consider my time very valuable just like you all should. I can spend X amount of time looking for that diamond in centro or logon to my computer and work for a few hours and get 8-10 chica and she arrives at my doorstep (obviously never the time we agreed to and 1-2 hours late).

Everyone's situation is different, whether you factor in age or income. To say I overpay just because I am stupid or naive isn't correct. I overpay because the time spent finding that much cheaper chick, I could login to my computer and make that amount (most likely more than that). For me after time / cost are weighed this works for me. 300-600 k for TLN for a 8-10 chica with the service I want. I will continue to buy these chicks drinks, party favors, and food because I don't mind and tow certain degree I think it improves the service, who knows it could lead to something more beneficial for me. Even if it doesn't, I will still continue with this trend. One thing I will say, after offering drinks / party favors they open up a lot more and the experience goes to a different level. I forgot to mention I am not fully fluent in Espanol but I understand most of the words so I have a general idea of what they are saying and able to converse with them so my interactions are not basic which may also help. They always compliment my language skills, they are almost relieved. Most are thankful I am not like the other gringos. My tips are learn the language (can't stress how important that is), be friendly with the chicas and take care of them and they will reciprocate.What does being nice really do except emptying your pocket even further? She will be with another guy on your way to the airport. I agree with you Spanish makes a big difference so I am surprised you still pay those silly prices, at 20 with spanish. But do what makes you happy. To me it sounds like you are a weekend baller or make 100 $ an hour, third option I let you guess.

Wolf662
05-19-19, 00:36
What does being nice really do except emptying your pocket even further? In my experience if you want GFE the best way is to treat them to BFE. (boyfriend exp).

SallySally
05-19-19, 02:33
I really enjoyed your report. You burst some guys' bubbles by revealing that some of the Parque Lleras girls asking for up to 300 K are doing dates during the day for 30 K. Same girls, different punters. I am impressed. For a first time visitor you did extremely well. I know guys who have been going to Medellin for 10 years who still can't navigate the way you did.Now that you mention it, I forgot to include in my original report but yes the same chicas can be found in different venues. Some other examples I can think of that were mentioned to me:

1) One centro casa chick (50 k / hh); I asked her if she wanted to meet up later after work. She said she couldn't because she had to work. I asked what? The casa closes at 7, she said she usually works the clubs at night. Not sure which clubs specifically because I didn't ask, but it doesn't seem unreasonable that other centro casa chicks would do the same.

2) Not necessarily directly analogous because she was not working at the same places during the same time interval, but one centro casa chick told me she first started her career as a sex worker at one of the Poblado casas, I think it's called candy house or candy land or similar? Anyway, she then started working at a centro casa instead, she said she made more at the centro casa because it was higher volume. She was also a bit self conscious of herself because she didn't have any surgeries and had more of a girl-next-door type of look and said the girls with surgical enhancement tended to get higher volume at the Poblado casas. She was a still a beautiful girl by all means, but I guess it goes to show you that you can find the same girls working both pricing models in centro and in Poblado. This girl also told me something interesting, that during her stay at candy house, her boss had offered to pay for her breast enhancement surgery (usually 3 - 4 million pesos), but afterwords she would be indebted to the casa and would need to stay there so she didn't do it. Interesting business model.


Hey guys,

I am seeding a facebook profile for a trip later this year. I've added maybe a couple dozen chicas based off of one profile that someone posted on here a few weeks back. Of course I have no idea if the ones I'm adding are working girls or not I'm just adding the ones that are wearing skimpy outfits. Anyway if anyone would care to post some other profiles of girls I can scour off of that would be great.A couple of posters asked how to find facebook girls, I haven't met up with many myself and the ones I did meet have been duds but I did spend some time investigating facebook girls.

One of the easiest ways to get them is to find one of those fake facebook pages that a gringo makes to specifically collect facebook girls. Look up "Medellin Rich" for example, he has an open friendslist with mostly working girls, add them all. Then go on the working girls pages and look at their profile pics and look for the white guy who comments some shit like "beautiful babe" who is located in Kansas, and go on his friends list and add every girl from medellin, they're all working girls.

Here's a bunch of others you could get started with:

1) https://www.facebook.com/valentina.londonochica.1.

2) https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100012128942549 - some of the girls are aggressive in marketing themselves, this one literally makes posts saying disponible.

3) https://www.facebook.com/maryrestrepo08 - 215 k / from 11 am - 6 pm, but shit personality, report in previous post, still very attractive; she actually hit me with the pasarlo bien rico meme in whatsapp that you guys mentioned a couple posts ago LOL, red flag haha.

4) https://www.facebook.com/michel.vallejoruiz.

5) https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004135125476.

6) https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100016840396258 - she quoted me 150 k / HR.

7) https://www.facebook.com/laura.loaiza18031998.

8) https://www.facebook.com/melissa.aguiar.9887 - this is the same girl as #7, I'm including it because I think it's interesting how differently the girls can present themselves on the fake facebook page for working vs. Their other page, so don't think the girl whos working page you find is the girl you're going to get in reality.

This should be more than enough to get you started. After you add a bunch of them you'll notice you have 12+ mutual friends with certain gringos you've never met, guess what? They're mongers too, go to their friendslist and add all of the chicas from Medellin. But overall I don't think facebook girls are worth the time or the money, or maybe they are and I just got a bad draw of girls LOL. It actually takes quite a lot of time to get into the whole facebook scene with finding girls and messaging them, trying to have them come, having them delay, having them wait for a babysitter for their kid, etc. If you're new to Medellin without a network I would also encourage you to be aggressive with adding friends, cause this is literally a numbers game, a lot of the chicas may not respond, be flakey etc. I guess it would be different if you already had a network of chicas set up, but I didn't. Also make sure you add girls that are located in Medellin, Bello, Itagui, etc. Don't add girls located in Maracay, Venezuela you've drifted into the wrong section of someone's facebook friends list. But the standard facebook pricing model is still pretty steep for Medellin IMO.

KillaCam11
05-19-19, 02:44
What does being nice really do except emptying your pocket even further? She will be with another guy on your way to the airport. I agree with you Spanish makes a big difference so I am surprised you still pay those silly prices, at 20 with spanish. But do what makes you happy. To me it sounds like you are a weekend baller or make 100 $ an hour, third option I let you guess.She is a puta to begin with so I would assume she was with another man after she left me, I think that's a obvious assumption. I am not trying to play captain save a hoe by any means but it does open them up when you offer drinks / meal, at least for me. Unless you can pull the chicas I am for a lower price then there is no discussion. I am not banging pudgy hoodrats from Bello or glue sniffing puta from centro. Not a weekend baller by any means but I make decisions based on MY time, it may not apply to all. If you are happy with pudgy putas from bello who dress like hood rats then by all means pay that 60 k. That doesn't do it for me so I "overpay" for a better looking / dressed chick. I don't look at it as overpaying, I'm helping the economy by donating to the less fortunate. LOL, it's all perspective.

KillaCam11
05-19-19, 02:47
Does not seem that you added up the figures or maybe something was lost in translation. You could have taken this chick for 1 hour for FS to include dancing, BJ, and fucking for 200K. Instead you opted for dance only for 15 min for 80K? So an hour of dancing would have cost you 320K. Way more than an hour of dancing, BJ, and fucking. Maybe she thought you wanted dancing and BJ and gave you the price of 80K; a little less than half the price of FS and only 1/4 of the time. Seems more like she got over, than her doing you a favor because you were nice.You might be right, the BJ might come with the 80 k package but when I asked her she said only dancing, no extras. She might have got my ass thinking I would pay for 200 k instead the 80 k. It was my first time at Luna lunera, I don't know what package comes with it. Definitely was not doing math man.

Surfer500
05-19-19, 06:13
Where is the ice cream shop? Thank you.It's a soft serve ice cream stand almost directly across from the Premier Plaza Hotel adjacent to the park. Soft serve ice cream only.

Surfer500
05-19-19, 06:34
In my experience if you want GFE the best way is to treat them to BFE. (boyfriend exp).Yes, if you have chemistry with a Chica and she gets off with you while banging her, and I don't mean a bunch of fake moaning but getting wet and loosing it then besides making money she is going to look forward to being with you to get off, and you will get the GFE. In other words, treat them the way you would like to be treated, versus just letting them do all the work.

Turgid
05-19-19, 09:10
In my experience if you want GFE the best way is to treat them to BFE. (boyfriend exp).This is well known on ISG. It is done by the guys who write posts referring to their 'girlfriends'.

Knowledge
05-19-19, 16:30
At least some gringos, especially the older ones, move from Poblado to Laureles to get away from the steep hills. There are lots more gringos in Laureles than most any barrio other than El Poblado. "Overrun" is a very strong word. I would say Laureles is overrun with bars and restaurants.


Outside of Parque Lleras you will rarely spot a gringo unless you stumble upon a tour group.

There are about 120,000 people in Laureles. 2 gringos getting robbed, hardly qualifies as "infested. " Gringos get robbed wherever they go, usually because they do something stupid.

Yes, there are gringos in Laureles. A lot of gringos move to Laureles to get away from the gringos in El Poblado. But, you will seldom see them. A few here and there. I usually spotted a few each day, especially on the metro, since line 2 of the metro runs out near La Escaleras at Comuna 13, a popular tourist destination.

If you pay attention, you'll spot gringos in many areas of Medellin. Some are easy to spot. Some are difficult to spot. It hardly qualifies as an infestation, except in Parque Lleras.

Admin2
05-19-19, 18:34
have a lot of sympathy for any robbery victim. This person broke a few cardinal rules. All alone in a dark isolated area displaying an item of high value.Not a victim blamer myself either, and no matter where you go in the world (except maybe Bangkok) if you're offering papaya somebody is going to take it.

On another note, are we really arguing about how many gringos there are in Laureles? It's the second most popular area for gringos in Medellin but still has a shit load less than Poblado but a lot more then Bello. Is there anything some of you guys can't fight about?

Sho423
05-19-19, 18:54
Has anyone been to Medellin during Féria de las Flores? How is it? Any difference between pricing and availability of girls?

JjBee62
05-19-19, 20:23
Not a victim blamer myself either, and no matter where you go in the world (except maybe Bangkok) if you're offering papaya somebody is going to take it.Every time someone gets robbed, or worse, in a mongering destination, there is someone talking about how dangerous it has become and that everyone should avoid the area. Then there's the people pointing out that the victim made mistakes that probably made the robber's target selection easier.

The first approach is useless. The second approach might help someone else avoid becoming a target. If the victim gets his feelings hurt, that's his problem. I'm not concerned with holding the hand of somebody who has already been robbed. I'm concerned about the 10 guys who will make the same mistakes next week, unless someone clues them in.


On another note, are we really arguing about how many gringos there are in Laureles? It's the second most popular area for gringos in Medellin but still has a shit load less than Poblado but a lot more then Bello. Is there anything some of you guys can't fight about?Sadly, yes we are. It all began when someone wanted to know if they'd constantly be rubbing shoulders with herds of gringos during the busy season. Even in Parque Lleras, unless you frequent a few popular gringo hangouts, you won't be overwhelmed with gringos. In Laureles, they're a barely noticeable minority. That's one reason why it's the second most popular neighborhood.

But, just like when a gringo gets robbed, there's always someone who wants to exaggerate the situation. And I try to present things as they are. I'll take the blame for the argument, since:

1. It takes 2 to argue.

2. I know that most of the people are just here hoping for Penthouse Forum reviews along with pictures.

Michi T
05-20-19, 19:48
Dude, you did a great job by finding the girl facebook. But, don't take it personal, the below girls are so ugly, I would not etwan want to have sex with them for free.




1) https://www.facebook.com/valentina.londonochica.1.

2) https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100012128942549 - some of the girls are aggressive in marketing themselves, this one literally makes posts saying disponible.

3) https://www.facebook.com/maryrestrepo08 - 215 k / from 11 am - 6 pm, but shit personality, report in previous post, still very attractive; she actually hit me with the pasarlo bien rico meme in whatsapp that you guys mentioned a couple posts ago LOL, red flag haha.

4) https://www.facebook.com/michel.vallejoruiz.

5) https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004135125476.

6) https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100016840396258 - she quoted me 150 k / HR.

7) https://www.facebook.com/laura.loaiza18031998.

8) https://www.facebook.com/melissa.aguiar.9887 - this is the same girl as #7, I'm including it because I think it's interesting how differently the girls can present themselves on the fake facebook page for working vs. Their other page, so don't think the girl whos working page you find is the girl you're going to get in reality.

This should be more than enough to get you started. After you add a bunch of them you'll notice you have 12+ mutual friends with certain gringos you've never met, guess what? They're mongers too, go to their friendslist and add all of the chicas from Medellin. But overall I don't think facebook girls are worth the time or the money, or maybe they are and I just got a bad draw of girls LOL. It actually takes quite a lot of time to get into the whole facebook scene with finding girls and messaging them, trying to have them come, having them delay, having them wait for a babysitter for their kid, etc. If you're new to Medellin without a network I would also encourage you to be aggressive with adding friends, cause this is literally a numbers game, a lot of the chicas may not respond, be flakey etc. I guess it would be different if you already had a network of chicas set up, but I didn't. Also make sure you add girls that are located in Medellin, Bello, Itagui, etc. Don't add girls located in Maracay, Venezuela you've drifted into the wrong section of someone's facebook friends list. But the standard facebook pricing model is still pretty steep for Medellin IMO.

Balboa
05-20-19, 20:20
Dude, you did a great job by finding the girl facebook. But, don't take it personal, the below girls are so ugly, I would not etwan want to have sex with them for free.Yeah we believe you Rico suave, LOL.

Post your girls and we'll critique your type as well.

Michi T
05-20-19, 20:39
Yeah we believe you Rico suave, LOL.

Post your girls and we'll critique your type as well.Thums down for such loser like you! Instead of appreciating the other dudes work you make negative vibes! Go to the hot country of Ukraine and see my taste! What a dumb posting from you!

Mr Enternational
05-20-19, 21:19
Dude, you did a great job by finding the girl facebook. But, don't take it personal, the below girls are so ugly, I would not etwan want to have sex with them for free.


Go to the hot country of Ukraine and see my taste!I did just that. And what I have discovered is that this is clearly a case of to each his own!


That w h o are e looks like Nina, the one I fucked last year several times.

Balboa
05-20-19, 21:38
Dude, you did a great job by finding the girl facebook. But, don't take it personal, the below girls are so ugly, I would not etwan want to have sex with them for free.


Yeah we believe you Rico suave, LOL.

Post your girls and we'll critique your type as well.


Thums down for such loser like you! Instead of appreciating the other dudes work you make negative vibes! Go to the hot country of Ukraine and see my taste! What a dumb posting from you!Haha, coming from Mr Negative vibes himself!

Guys like you are always so testy, LOL.

Bottom Feeder
05-20-19, 21:59
I moved to the Hotel Botero which is always a good bet for me. I told the girl up front that I always pay 80 k for 2 and she went for it. No problems here with girls. Also across the street is some fast 50 k pussy hh. Remember my name. Bottom Feeder- I go for girls with great attitudes and low prices. No fat stuff please. I went to Executive bar / show next to Marricabo. Damage 80 k for a great hh with the smallest girl there. Actually more like 45 min. Going back tonight. Thanks SallySally for the Face Book links. Lots'a fun looking. I'm getting used to Medellin but I can't beat Cali for cheap good girls galore.

I met a Venezuela girl in the Botero area just next to the Museo Botero. 30 k which I extended to 1. 5 hours and I gave her 70 k. Most unusual for me. I'll see her daily (also unusual for me). God bless Presedente Maduro for all these beautiful Venezuelan girls. PM me to meet up.

SallySally
05-20-19, 22:11
Dude, you did a great job by finding the girl facebook. But, don't take it personal, the below girls are so ugly, I would not etwan want to have sex with them for free.Not taking it personally haha. I mostly just posted that guide so other forum members could have a means to approach and understand a step by step methodology on finding facebook girls, which I haven't seen posted around here at least not recently. And as far as girls go, obviously there are more attractive girls available on facebook but you will likely have to find them yourself. But these girls were pretty attractive for me, but then again I'm a sexless guy from the USA who doesn't even get a modicum of attention from girls here so I guess my standards are pretty low haha.


Thums down for such loser like you! Instead of appreciating the other dudes work you make negative vibes! Go to the hot country of Ukraine and see my taste! What a dumb posting from you!I've actually mongered in Ukraine before, I also speak Russian so spent most of my time in Kharkiv as well as some time in Kiev, beautiful country and beautiful girls but have a very distinct eastern European look which is obviously far removed from what you will find in Medellin. I will say that Ukraine is a better place to go than Medellin if you are looking for model-type facial features. However I have enjoyed the brothels in Medellin more than I have enjoyed the brothels in Ukraine.

Surfer500
05-20-19, 22:26
I moved to the Hotel Botero which is always a good bet for me. I told the girl up front that I always pay 80 k for 2 and she went for it. No problems here with girls. Also across the street is some fast 50 k pussy hh. Remember my name. Bottom Feeder- I go for girls with great attitudes and low prices. No fat stuff please. I went to Executive bar / show next to Marricabo. Damage 80 k for a great hh with the smallest girl there. Actually more like 45 min. Going back tonight. Thanks SallySally for the Face Book links. Lots'a fun looking. I'm getting used to Medellin but I can't beat Cali for cheap good girls galore.

I met a Venezuela girl in the Botero area just next to the Museo Botero. 30 k which I extended to 1. 5 hours and I gave her 70 k. Most unusual for me. I'll see her daily (also unusual for me). God bless Presedente Maduro for all these beautiful Venezuelan girls. PM me to meet up.You haven't bottomed out yet bottom feeder! Walk along the side of Veracruz Church, ignore the Trannies, and if your patient, you will find girls that are not beauty queens, but with great attitudes, and starting prices of 20 K!

IamLookin
05-21-19, 01:34
SallySally took time out to write and all you want to do is put him down? Keep it to yourself next time.


Dude, you did a great job by finding the girl facebook. But, don't take it personal, the below girls are so ugly, I would not etwan want to have sex with them for free.

JjBee62
05-21-19, 02:54
Dude, you did a great job by finding the girl facebook. But, don't take it personal, the below girls are so ugly, I would not etwan want to have sex with them for free.If it's any consolation, none of them will have sex with you for free either.

I've met a few of the girls he listed. None of them qualify as ugly to just about anyone who mongers in any Latin American country. The ones I've met were quite attractive and one of them got rave reviews from a trusted source.

GeneHickman
05-21-19, 06:05
Dude, you did a great job by finding the girl facebook. But, don't take it personal, the below girls are so ugly, I would not etwan want to have sex with them for free.Dude, care to post an example of a FB contact you consider beautiful?

Otherwise what you say would be all hot air.

Michi T
05-21-19, 11:55
Not taking it personally haha. I mostly just posted that guide so other forum members could have a means to approach and understand a step by step methodology on finding facebook girls, which I haven't seen posted around here at least not recently. And as far as girls go, obviously there are more attractive girls available on facebook but you will likely have to find them yourself. But these girls were pretty attractive for me, but then again I'm a sexless guy from the USA who doesn't even get a modicum of attention from girls here so I guess my standards are pretty low haha.

I've actually mongered in Ukraine before, I also speak Russian so spent most of my time in Kharkiv as well as some time in Kiev, beautiful country and beautiful girls but have a very distinct eastern European look which is obviously far removed from what you will find in Medellin. I will say that Ukraine is a better place to go than Medellin if you are looking for model-type facial features. However I have enjoyed the brothels in Medellin more than I have enjoyed the brothels in Ukraine.That's the point, you did a great job by sharing and if someone does not like the girls it's nothing against you. I don't understand the two other dumb guys who start to fussle around.

But to come to the point, as you know botht the Ukrainian and the Medelin markets, would you say it can be same easy to approach girls in Medelin in day time games? In Ukraine I find girls in normal places, such as walking on the street, in the shop, in Mc Donalds, in the metro etc. Talk to them, invite for a cofe and then bum bum. Can same happen in Medelin?

Michi T
05-21-19, 11:59
I moved to the Hotel Botero which is always a good bet for me. I told the girl up front that I always pay 80 k for 2 and she went for it. No problems here with girls. Also across the street is some fast 50 k pussy hh. Remember my name. Bottom Feeder- I go for girls with great attitudes and low prices. No fat stuff please. I went to Executive bar / show next to Marricabo. Damage 80 k for a great hh with the smallest girl there. Actually more like 45 min. Going back tonight. Thanks SallySally for the Face Book links. Lots'a fun looking. I'm getting used to Medellin but I can't beat Cali for cheap good girls galore.

I met a Venezuela girl in the Botero area just next to the Museo Botero. 30 k which I extended to 1. 5 hours and I gave her 70 k. Most unusual for me. I'll see her daily (also unusual for me). God bless Presedente Maduro for all these beautiful Venezuelan girls. PM me to meet up.You are basically saying that in Medellin, if one wants to have money-for-sex-girls it is advisable to stay in the hotel Botero? 75 k Colombia Pesos is around 20 US Dollar, right? That seems to be a good price.

What do you mean by "Cali". What city is that and what are the prices there?

Balboa
05-21-19, 12:48
That's the point, you did a great job by sharing and if someone does not like the girls it's nothing against you. I don't understand the two other dumb guys who start to fussle around.

Hey Michi, don't you remember that it was YOU that called his Facebook girls ugly?

(See below).

And us "dumb guys" called you out on it and "fussled around", LOL.


Dude, you did a great job by finding the girl facebook. But, don't take it personal, the below girls are so ugly, I would not etwan want to have sex with them for free.

SallySally
05-21-19, 14:22
That's the point, you did a great job by sharing and if someone does not like the girls it's nothing against you. I don't understand the two other dumb guys who start to fussle around.

But to come to the point, as you know botht the Ukrainian and the Medelin markets, would you say it can be same easy to approach girls in Medelin in day time games? In Ukraine I find girls in normal places, such as walking on the street, in the shop, in Mc Donalds, in the metro etc. Talk to them, invite for a cofe and then bum bum. Can same happen in Medelin?I'm probably not the best person to ask about this because I've hit the point in my life where I'd rather pay for company (and sex) than daygame. But I've found overall the girls are much more approachable in Medellin than Ukraine, I actually did get 2 civilian girls numbers in Medellin but didn't end up pursuing; one was a security guard I was chatting up and another an uber driver. I also only tried this twice, but would rather pay a centro street walker 70 k - 100 k to spend the whole day with me, which I have done.

Ukraine is different to me because I have friends that live there, so I was already a part of a social circle; I found the majority of the girls my social circle dealt with have more of an interest in public perceptions, for example they needed to be seen at the coolest venues with the coolest dudes, keep up appearances, Instagram, etc. These were all relatively wealthier girls. Maybe it's the same for the upper social strata in Medellin, idk. In Medellin I was mostly dealing exclusively with poor barrio girls or Venezuelans. What this means is that in Ukraine you could probably go to the place where the popular people go (examples. Avalon Lounge, Kiev; Argentina Grill, Kharkiv) and if you see a girl alone you could probably talk her up if you play the foreigner card, you could probably try to date her. As for less wealthy girls (middle class) in Ukraine I guess you could try to go to a place like Gorky Park in Kharkiv and talk up the locals, but overall I found the locals to be less receptive to being talked to publicly if you don't know them. That being said I am an Indian guy, and they may have thought I was Azerbaijani or something, and Azerbaijani's have a bad rep there for being hot headed, etc. As for poorer girls (the barrio equivalent), I haven't had much experience but specifically I wouldn't mess with the gopnik girls in Ukraine, there's too much risk with the Gopnik guys trying to fuck you up. You mention places like the streets, mcDonalds, etc. I haven't had much luck there but you're likely more attractive than me.

So for reference I've tried day gaming 2 girls in Medellin and probably around 50 in Ukraine, mostly Kharkiv. My batting average is higher in Medellin, but with a lower sample size. Obviously you have to speak Spanish to do this in Medellin and you have to speak Russian to do this in Eastern Ukraine. I'm 22 years old, do not look ethnically white, and speak both Spanish and Russian so obviously YMMV. But overall I get the feeling that locals in Medellin are much more friendly than locals in Ukraine.

Smoothy
05-21-19, 15:09
In Ukraine I find girls in normal places, such as walking on the street, in the shop, in Mc Donalds, in the metro etc. Talk to them, invite for a cofe and then bum bum. Can same happen in Medelin?Yes, if you speak Spanish.

DannyBoy99
05-21-19, 15:18
Everyone I'm coming down to Medellin next week and see the weather is raining and there is flash floods. Can anyone tell me what I can expect so I can pick accordingly?

JjBee62
05-21-19, 15:23
You are basically saying that in Medellin, if one wants to have money-for-sex-girls it is advisable to stay in the hotel Botero? 75 k Colombia Pesos is around 20 US Dollar, right? That seems to be a good price.

What do you mean by "Cali". What city is that and what are the prices there?Hotel Botero is one of a hundred or more options in Medellin, if you're interested in "money-for-sex girls. " The room prices run between about $10 USD to $250 USD per night for accommodation. At $10 a night you get a bed and a bathroom. Condition of the room is probably not too good. At $250 a night you get a full 3 bedroom apartment along with at least one jacuzzi, fully furnished with a balcony in the most expensive area of the city.

Street girls in Medellin typically charge 30 k for 20 minutes, roughly $10. Casas charge about 50 k for 30 minutes, about $17. The price goes up from there. Most of the girls who you called ugly charge between 150 k and 200 k for 1 to 3 hours. That's $50 to $67.

If you speak Spanish, you can talk to girls anywhere in Colombia. It's possible to find girls interested in spending time with you at any public place.

Cali is Santiago de Cali, another city in Colombia. Some people prefer to monger there.

Bottom Feeder
05-21-19, 15:33
You are basically saying that in Medellin, if one wants to have money-for-sex-girls it is advisable to stay in the hotel Botero? 75 k Colombia Pesos is around 20 US Dollar, right? That seems to be a good price.

What do you mean by "Cali". What city is that and what are the prices there?Cali is one of the 3 largest cities in Colombia and is South West of Medellin. The prices are about the same. Cheap cheap if you're careful. In my low hunting life style, I feel safer I Cali because at night I always go to the same area. Bar La Vente. Good food on the street, girls for 50.000 or less. Look up my past posts.

Last night I went to Punto Com for an hour with the only girl there. Slim with small tits but a good worker for 61 minutes. I check the time. And use their cell phone's clock so they know I give a damn about getting my money's worth 65.000. I was quoted 150.000 at Bar Executivo and passed but the girl sat with me and we bullshitted for about 30 minutes. She was a stunner. I went next door to Maracaibo and had the same girl there that I had the night before. Fun fun. God I love this town!

Now its off to Veracruz church this morning as Surfer500 suggested and see Ifn I can get 20.000poon tang.

PS goto XE.com for the current exchange rate. About 3300 to 1 right now so a 50.00 f--- is about $15. !!!!!!

Riina
05-21-19, 15:36
But to come to the point, as you know botht the Ukrainian and the Medelin markets, would you say it can be same easy to approach girls in Medelin in day time games? In Ukraine I find girls in normal places, such as walking on the street, in the shop, in Mc Donalds, in the metro etc. Talk to them, invite for a cofe and then bum bum. Can same happen in Medelin?My big fear in traveling to Colombia is not finding the kind of interaction I had in Ukraine. I read the posts here by members that brag they had 2 or 3 a day and I'm instantly discouraged. Anyway, as soon as we are out of rainy season, I'll make the trip to Medellin.

Surfer500
05-21-19, 16:03
town!

Now its off to Veracruz church this morning as Surfer500 suggested and see Ifn I can get 20.000poon tang!Don't spoil the market by overpaying any of those Chicas around the Veracruz Church. The next thing that will happen is all the El Centro aficionados will be bitching on this Forum about the spiraling prices.

The Tall Man
05-21-19, 16:34
I moved to the Hotel Botero which is always a good bet for me. I told the girl up front that I always pay 80 k for 2 and she went for it. No problems here with girls. Also across the street is some fast 50 k pussy hh. Remember my name. Bottom Feeder- I go for girls with great attitudes and low prices. No fat stuff please. I went to Executive bar / show next to Marricabo. Damage 80 k for a great hh with the smallest girl there. Actually more like 45 min. Going back tonight. Thanks SallySally for the Face Book links. Lots'a fun looking. I'm getting used to Medellin but I can't beat Cali for cheap good girls galore.

I met a Venezuela girl in the Botero area just next to the Museo Botero. 30 k which I extended to 1. 5 hours and I gave her 70 k. Most unusual for me. I'll see her daily (also unusual for me). God bless Presedente Maduro for all these beautiful Venezuelan girls. PM me to meet up.Bottom Feeder must be my brother from another mother, hehehe, yep what maduro has done for us mongers is a god send, not only beautiful Venezuelan pussy but keeps price in check for Colombian pussy too, go check out Cucuta, I have been twice in the past 2 months, or sante Fe in Bogota, delicious venies selling their beautiful pussies.

A few nights ago after some time in Barra Executivo with my Colombian buddy who ended up taking a girl I left and drove over to the "calf" area in San Diego and found a thin cuties very sweet and in-experienced 18 yo who was more than willing to hope into my car and off we went, oh a [Deleted by Admin] body to satisfy this preverted mind of mine, off to a love motel. Got to love Colombia.

Last month I drove down to Cali and spent 4 days there just to get the lay of the land. I too need to spend some more time there as I see the possibilities.

The Tall Man.

Surfer500
05-21-19, 17:27
Bottom Feeder must be my brother from another mother, hehehe, yep what maduro has done for us mongers is a god send, not only beautiful Venezuelan pussy but keeps price in check for Colombian pussy too, go check out Cucuta, I have been twice in the past 2 months, or sante fe in Bogota, delicious venies selling their beautiful pussies.

A few nights ago after some time in Barra Executivo with my Colombian buddy who ended up taking a girl I left and drove over to the "calf" area in San Diego and found a thin cuties very sweet and in-experienced 18 yo who was more than willing to hope into my car and off we went, oh a teenage body to satisfy this preverted mind of mine, off to a love motel. Got to love Colombia.

Last month I drove down to Cali and spent 4 days there just to get the lay of the land. I too need to spend some more time there as I see the possibilities.

The Tall Man.Yes the Venezuelans have kept the prices in check and it is a buyers market everywhere you go. I recently discovered Santa Marta and what a paradise this place is if you like the beach and seafood. While in Santa Marta I didn't go in any bars but found plenty of nice Chicas in the parks and along the Malecon. Very different than Medellin and Bogota (Santa Fe Area) which I did not like at all.

Michi T
05-21-19, 21:42
So for reference I've tried day gaming 2 girls in Medellin and probably around 50 in Ukraine, mostly Kharkiv. My batting average is higher in Medellin, but with a lower sample size. Obviously you have to speak Spanish to do this in Medellin and you have to speak Russian to do this in Eastern Ukraine. I'm 22 years old, do not look ethnically white, and speak both Spanish and Russian so obviously YMMV. But overall I get the feeling that locals in Medellin are much more friendly than locals in Ukraine.

Based on that report, it seems that Medellin is easier than Ukraine. In Ukraine I am very successfull, so let's try it in Medelin :)). And no, Russian is not needed at all in Ukrainia. Neither is Spanish needed in Latin America, based on my experience in Mexico, Chile, Argentina.

Michi T
05-21-19, 21:46
Cali is one of the 3 largest cities in Colombia and is South West of Medellin. The prices are about the same. Cheap cheap if you're careful. In my low hunting life style, I feel safer I Cali because at night I always go to the same area. Bar La Vente. Good food on the street, girls for 50.000 or less. Look up my past posts.

Last night I went to Punto Com for an hour with the only girl there. Slim with small tits but a good worker for 61 minutes. I check the time. And use their cell phone's clock so they know I give a damn about getting my money's worth 65.000. I was quoted 150.000 at Bar Executivo and passed but the girl sat with me and we bullshitted for about 30 minutes. She was a stunner. I went next door to Maracaibo and had the same girl there that I had the night before. Fun fun. God I love this town!

Now its off to Veracruz church this morning as Surfer500 suggested and see Ifn I can get 20.000poon tang.

PS goto XE.com for the current exchange rate. About 3300 to 1 right now so a 50.00 f--- is about $15. !!!!!!Oh wow! 15 $ for a working girl? Hmmm. Maybe worth to try once.

Eloshine007
05-21-19, 22:56
First time posting. Long time learning. So I'm close to convincing myself to fly down to Medellin from Miami the week of May 27. I don't speak an ounce of Spanish and all of my readings on here point to two things, in regards to this: a) Spanish is advantageous all around, but really critical for day game and b) while cash talks, I may have trouble getting by. My question is for those that don't speak Spanish but have mongered in Medellin: looking back, how would you do things differently? Would you use an escort service instead of trying to communicate in a club? Would you not even have went, if you had known what impact the lack of Spanish would have on your mongering activities? Any pearls of wisdom is welcome.

With that said. If anyone is around next week in Medellin. Please PM me!

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Mr Enternational
05-21-19, 23:30
Based on that report, it seems that Medellin is easier than Ukraine. In Ukraine I am very successfull, so let's try it in Medelin :)).I am totally lost on what being successful has to do with picking up a hooker. All you need is money in your pocket. Do you consider it successful when you go to McDonald's and are able to buy a Big Mac?


My big fear in traveling to Colombia is not finding the kind of interaction I had in Ukraine. I read the posts here by members that brag they had 2 or 3 a day and I'm instantly discouraged.How do you see someone fucking 2 or 3 hookers a day as bragging? That is the same as thinking someone saying they ate 2 or 3 meals a day is bragging. Maybe there is something that I am missing with these 2 board members.

Orgasmico
05-22-19, 00:17
Oh wow! 15 $ for a working girl? Hmmm. Maybe worth to try once.If spending the least amount possible is your thing maybe consider Sierra Leone. 57 cents will get you a hooker for the entire day https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-africa-48342229/sierra-leone-what-is-life-like-for-the-prostitutes-of-freetown.

Smoothy
05-22-19, 00:19
Oh wow! 15 $ for a working girl? Hmmm. Maybe worth to try once.Why would you do that when you wouldn't have sex with any of the girls even for free?

Jayson01
05-22-19, 01:14
How do you see someone fucking 2 or 3 hookers a day as bragging? That is the same as thinking someone saying they ate 2 or 3 meals a day is bragging. Maybe there is something that I am missing with these 2 board members.He probably means GFE will be unlikely since girls are used to be with with many guys for only ST. But I could be wrong.

Riina
05-22-19, 01:59
He probably means GFE will be unlikely since girls are used to be with with many guys for only ST. But I could be wrong.It doesn't have to be GFE in the sense of DFK'ing or BBBJ. I just want a girl that really wants to have fun with me and that's hard to find.

KilledSoul
05-22-19, 06:19
The price goes up from there. Most of the girls who you called ugly charge between 150 k and 200 k for 1 to 3 hours. That's $50 to $67.
I sessioned with 2 FB chicas. Really sweet girls, paid them 150k+taxi for the first time. But when I offered them 100 k + taxi for the second time none of them budged. Is 100 k + taxi too low for them, even if you are a repeat customer?

Turgid
05-22-19, 07:13
Don't want to offend, but really looking for honest input to help me decide............I guess what I'm really asking for input on, is why do you all choose to monger in Medellin? I am weighing my options.........From reading your post I'm thinking that Mexico is best for you. Tijuana has the optics you're looking for.

Mr Enternational
05-22-19, 07:17
I know that Medellin, like much of Latin America, has a varied genetic makeup, but I believe it is mostly mestizo, and many tend not to have natural curves (hence all the plastic surgery). Maybe that's why there are so many disagreements on whether Dominican girls are better (many men preferring their curves due to a much greater African influence).
You need to compare apples to apples. You just compared the city of Medellin to the country of Dominican Republic. If you go to the Cibao region of DR, then the influences on how people look is way less African. If you go to the coast of Colombia, Cartagena for example, you will find way more African influence than the Cibao region of DR and pretty much the rest of Colombia. So you can't see pictures of the population of Iowa and assume the population of Detroit looks the same.

That being said and after reading the rest of your post, I will post a couple of pictures of my nurse chick in Bogota. I don't think you really can "get it" unless you go see for yourself. I live in Thailand and I can't say how many guys have assumed the same thing you are saying, then they go there and their assumptions are proven to be incorrect. Don't look at the photo gallery. Don't look at youtube. Go see for yourself.

P. S. I will also post a picture of a chick in Thailand to show that they are not so small and thin as you have also assumed.

JjBee62
05-22-19, 09:46
It doesn't have to be GFE in the sense of DFK'ing or BBBJ. I just want a girl that really wants to have fun with me and that's hard to find.Define "fun."

I had no problems finding girls to have fun with me in Medellin. However, what I call fun might not be fun for you. Here are some examples:

Found a girl who I took on the Metrocable to Parque Arvi. It was a weekday morning, almost nobody was using the system and we had the gondola to ourselves for the 15 minute leg to the top. Had her pants around her knees and finger banged her until her knees were weak. Afterwards, spent 2 hours in a love motel with her. Total time about 4 hours and I think I paid 140 k.

Got salsa lessons in a bar from 3 girls, 2 of which I was making out with, while we all shared a bottle of tequila. Didn't take anyone home, but had a blast. Spent about 180 k on food for me and drinks.

Took 2 sisters out drinking and dancing. We were all just friends, so nothing extra going on. We did have fun laughing at the different guys who thought 1 was my date and tried to figure out which one might be available. I probably spent around 250 k that night on drinks and taxi.

One girl who fucked like a pornstar, saw her once for 200 k, almost 3 hours. Sex in the jacuzzi, sex in the bed, sex in front of the mirror, sex on the love chair (at a love motel). Saw her again for 150 k, same thing. Third time she just came over, hung out and smoked for 3 or 4 hours. Spent 20 k on her weed and taxi. Last time spent about 2 hours with her, fucking in my living room, until her period started. Cleaned up the mess and she spent about 20 minutes on a BBBJ with COB. Only 90 k for that.

One girl, bought her a drink 2 or 3 times, 20 k each time, talked and danced. Finally took her to the love motel. Gave the most amazing BBBJ, total GFE, about 3 hours for 200 k. Did another night with her, dinner, movie and 4 hours at the motel, 3 sessions, 2 pops (which is rare for me), about 8 hours total together, 200 k plus about 160 k for 2 dinners and 2 movie tickets. Had her over for a TLN for 200 k, almost 12 hours that time. Had her over just to hang out, bought lunch and made out for awhile. 20 k.

Spent many hours with my roommate, eating, seeing movies (at the apartment and in the theater), shopping, exploring the city and just hanging out. Sometimes I bought lunch, sometimes she bought lunch, same with movie tickets, taxis, beers, etc.

Spent a day shopping with a girl. Bought her 1 outfit for 30 k. Did a trio with her and her friend for 250 k. Hung out at her house a few times, along with her family. They fed me, shared some drinks with me, introduced me to her friends. Talked music, gave her daughter some English lessons and just enjoyed the company.

There were plenty of others who I only saw once for sex, and the sex was usually fun, some more than others.

JjBee62
05-22-19, 10:11
I sessioned with 2 FB chicas. Really sweet girls, paid them 150k+taxi for the first time. But when I offered them 100 k + taxi for the second time none of them budged. Is 100 k + taxi too low for them, even if you are a repeat customer?That depends on a few factors. One thing working against you, you're probably on a schedule, only a week or two before you're going home. So your needs are more urgent than their needs. If you're there for a long stretch, then it's a waiting game. See them a few times, keep in contact and wait until they need the money. When they hit you up, just tell them you don't have much money this week, and you can't afford 150 k. Maybe in a few weeks. They're likely to offer a lower price.

Another factor is whether the girl is on the clock. I always passed on the girls who put a time limit. I preferred to spend 2 or more hours, making it into more than just a quick fuck. Make it entertaining for her and she might be willing to take less when she's bored and has nothing to do.

There's also chemistry. With some girls, they enjoy your look, your company and the way you treat them. Others just put on a great act. Telling the difference isn't always easy. Finding the ones who prefer seeing you over other guys, improves your chance of getting a better rate.

As an occasional visitor, you don't have much leverage. The guys who live there 6 months a year, or full time, and the guys who come back every 4-6 weeks have all the power. They can take the time to build a solid group of girls who see the advantage of a repeat customer.

IamLookin
05-22-19, 12:38
So they treated you well for 150k and you want to punish them by paying them less? FB girls are usually 150 k. 200 k for a GFE experience. These girls struggle to get by. Most are single moms with no real future in store for them. I have made many girlfriends in Medellin and I treat them as I would want them to treat me. Why punish them by paying 14 dollars less?


I sessioned with 2 FB chicas. Really sweet girls, paid them 150k+taxi for the first time. But when I ordered them 100 k + taxi for the second time none of them budged. Is 100 k + taxi too low for them, even if you are a repeat customer?.

FRobertson
05-22-19, 13:39
Don't want to offend, but really looking for honest input to help me decide.I was in the same boat a few months ago. I suggest browsing through the Brazil / Sao Paulo threads, lots of useful information there. Furthermore, I think you'll find the girls in Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires much to your liking. Cheap tickets could be found if you look hard enough, and Brazil is about to get rid of the visa requirement for the US passports.

Michi T
05-22-19, 14:27
I am totally lost on what being successful has to do with picking up a hooker. All you need is money in your pocket. Do you consider it successful when you go to McDonald's and are able to buy a Big Mac?

How do you see someone fucking 2 or 3 hookers a day as bragging? That is the same as thinking someone saying they ate 2 or 3 meals a day is bragging. Maybe there is something that I am missing with these 2 board members.

I am generally not interested in hooker girls, I am interested in picking up girls without money involved! That's the point!

I may, however, try a hooker girl if the price is as low as 15 $.

Michi T
05-22-19, 14:30
Why would you do that when you wouldn't have sex with any of the girls even for free?Not the sample girls on the Facebook pages, but probably there are some girls in Medellin that fit my taste.

SallySally
05-22-19, 16:19
Planning my next trip, but I think it's hard to beat Medellin. The girls are beautiful, the prices are so cheap, I speak the language, short flight from USA, good weather, shit to do around the city that's not mongering-specific. Idk maybe I'll head to Bogota or Cali next.

I've seen some posts around saying that they wouldn't monger in Medellin if they didn't live there. What places have you been that you have enjoyed more than Medellin?

I was thinking about Germany FKK clubs but it seems like for the amount I would spend in a day, and indulge in multiple pops, I could probably spend a week with a girl in Colombia. I used to think Tijuana was great, but now I think I would only go there if I could cross over on foot from San Diego; I guess Medellin has raised my mongering standards quite a bit. Anyway, my question to the forum is what other places have you been that you think may beat out medellin in terms of mongering, and what qualities of those places would you highlight (beauty, GFE, etc).

IamLookin
05-22-19, 17:04
So if you are not interested in "hooker" girls why are you in Medellin and in this forum? Why would you want to look for 15 dollar girls if you can get them for free?


I am generally not interested in hooker girls, I am interested in picking up girls without money involved! That's the point!

I may, however, try a hooker girl if the price is as low as 15 $..

DannyBoy99
05-22-19, 18:29
Where is the best place I can grab some Cialis or Viagra in Parque Lleras? New to town.

Chicafan
05-22-19, 19:39
Planning my next trip, but I think it's hard to beat Medellin. The girls are beautiful, the prices are so cheap, I speak the language, short flight from USA, good weather, shit to do around the city that's not mongering-specific. Idk maybe I'll head to Bogota or Cali next.
I've seen some posts around saying that they wouldn't monger in Medellin if they didn't live there. What places have you been that you have enjoyed more than Medellin?
I was thinking about Germany FKK clubs but it seems like for the amount I would spend in a day, and indulge in multiple pops, I could probably spend a week with a girl in Colombia. I used to think Tijuana was great, but now I think I would only go there if I could cross over on foot from San Diego; I guess Medellin has raised my mongering standards quite a bit. Anyway, my question to the forum is what other places have you been that you think may beat out medellin in terms of mongering, and what qualities of those places would you highlight (beauty, GFE, etc).If you've been doing Tijuana you probably live in Western US. If money no obstacle and value / travel time not a consideration I would say go to Germany and Brazil. Traveling the NWR region then down to Frankfurt making stops along the way is a true adventure and it's incredible. The German sauna clubs and FKKs is that generally you can plant yourself all day / night because they serve food and have exceptional facilities- can be very comfortable and relaxing. But it's expensive, twice the cost of Medellin with flight, hotel, car / train, all included. There is something to be said for a flight from the East Coast to Frankfurt for a 3 day trip (example) just to do it but it's expensive-really. The girls can be great and a weekend of Russian, Czech, Romanian, Polish, Brazilian is incredible. That said, it's a long long trip from West Coast where for the price you could almost have two to Colombia. Not much to say about Brazil, it can be great. I wouldn't say it's that much better or easier to navigate than Colombia at this time. Eight years ago Rio was something. It's expensive and close to eight hours of flight beyond Medellin. It could be worth it.

Bottom line- more bang for your buck if you try different Colombian cities or do Medellin with a couple day stop in Panama City. Maybe you would consider a couple night stop in San Jose Costa Rica if it's true that a lot of Venezuelen girls are there. I was told that's the case but don't know for sure.

HarvestBoi
05-22-19, 19:44
Anyway, my question to the forum is what other places have you been that you think may beat out medellin in terms of mongering, and what qualities of those places would you highlight (beauty, GFE, etc).If I had to choose, I’d visit So Paulo over Medellin, even tho my Spanish is better. Spain, especially Madrid is also on my list.

Orgasmico
05-22-19, 20:35
Where is the best place I can grab some Cialis or Viagra in Parque Lleras? New to town.You should be able to buy that stuff at any drugstore.

ColombiaLover
05-22-19, 21:33
Talking to some of the girls here and the big news is that the major gay pimp in Medellin was busted and is in jail. I had assumed it was for pimping, but I was told more specifically that it was for pimping [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) girls. Glad he got nailed. And a good reminder to always checks the cedula!

Wicked Witch
05-22-19, 21:45
Define "fun."

I had no problems finding girls to have fun with me in Medellin. However, what I call fun might not be fun for you. Here are some examples:

Found a girl who I took on the Metrocable to Parque Arvi. It was a weekday morning, almost nobody was using the system and we had the gondola to ourselves for the 15 minute leg to the top. Had her pants around her knees and finger banged her until her knees were weak. Afterwards, spent 2 hours in a love motel with her. Total time about 4 hours and I think I paid 140 k.

Got salsa lessons in a bar from 3 girls, 2 of which I was making out with, while we all shared a bottle of tequila. Didn't take anyone home, but had a blast. Spent about 180 k on food for me and drinks.

Took 2 sisters out drinking and dancing. We were all just friends, so nothing extra going on. We did have fun laughing at the different guys who thought 1 was my date and tried to figure out which one might be available. I probably spent around 250 k that night on drinks and taxi..WOW, I'm planning on going to Medellin sometime this year and you just made me look forward to my trip even more.

Surfer500
05-22-19, 23:08
Planning my next trip, but I think it's hard to beat Medellin. . Anyway, my question to the forum is what other places have you been that you think may beat out medellin in terms of mongering, and what qualities of those places would you highlight (beauty, GFE, etc).The answer to your question really depends on your personal tastes. If you have lots of money and time and your exposure to PFP has been limited to Latinas than I would suggest for your next trip you go to Thailand and the Philippines. Two totally different places with nothing in common with one another except they are very far away to travel to.

For GFE in my opinion the Philippines is hard to beat.

For exotic women in my opinion, Thailand is great with exceptional food.

For Thailand I would recommend Bangkok and Pattya. For the Philippines I would recommend Angeles City and perhaps Manila.

After you have visited to these two countries you may have a totally different outlook on what you like, ie.

You may never want to come back to Medellin after going to one of these countries.

For me personally Medellin is hard to beat, close to the USA, exceptional weather, beautiful women, and inexpensive.

Chicafan
05-22-19, 23:08
Talking to some of the girls here and the big news is that the major gay pimp in Medellin was busted and is in jail. I had assumed it was for pimping, but I was told more specifically that it was for pimping .... girls. Glad he got nailed. And a good reminder to always checks the cedula!Are we talking about that young guy often seen on Facebook with chicas usually from Bello? Forget his name but kind of creepy because he looks gay, like he's wearing makeup.

KillaCam11
05-22-19, 23:43
Talking to some of the girls here and the big news is that the major gay pimp in Medellin was busted and is in jail. I had assumed it was for pimping, but I was told more specifically that it was for pimping girls. Glad he got nailed. And a good reminder to always checks the cedula!Ale Perez?

F him. He has two girls in his stable in particular I am fond of, one looks like a model and doesn't even respond. Another one looks very hot and she quoted me 800 k for TLN. Not paying that much for her.

KillaCam11
05-22-19, 23:58
Planning my next trip, but I think it's hard to beat Medellin. The girls are beautiful, the prices are so cheap, I speak the language, short flight from USA, good weather, shit to do around the city that's not mongering-specific. Idk maybe I'll head to Bogota or Cali next.

I've seen some posts around saying that they wouldn't monger in Medellin if they didn't live there. What places have you been that you have enjoyed more than Medellin?

I was thinking about Germany FKK clubs but it seems like for the amount I would spend in a day, and indulge in multiple pops, I could probably spend a week with a girl in Colombia. I used to think Tijuana was great, but now I think I would only go there if I could cross over on foot from San Diego; I guess Medellin has raised my mongering standards quite a bit. Anyway, my question to the forum is what other places have you been that you think may beat out medellin in terms of mongering, and what qualities of those places would you highlight (beauty, GFE, etc).I have been to Cartagena and Bogota twice, both cities have pros and cons.

Bogota: has a much bigger selection due to the population being over 8 million. You can get the higher end girls for much cheaper. They will work in a casa during the daytime and then high end casa at night. The traffic is terrible at most hours during the day. You will get 4 seasons in a day and it's like that everyday. The people are cold just like the weather.

Cartagena: hot as balls. Girls are more expensive, lot of them gather at one location at night, the clock tower. You get girls from all around Colombia. The beach isn't anything special but it's a beach so it has that going. If I didn't like MDE, Cartagena would be next up for me.

I'the rather never set foot in Bogota ever again. I want to go to Manizales / Periera for a few days and find the untapped paisa talent. I'the imagine it being much economical compared to any of the 4 major cities.

ColombiaLover
05-23-19, 01:34
After some health issues, I am finally back in Medellin. It's been almost 5 months, the longest I've been away in many, many years. Not totally recovered, so not banging multiple chicas a day. Maybe next month.

I kept threatening to go back to centro to the casas or do a little street girl exploring, but so far have been too lazy. It has rained here every day for the past few days. It seems that it is raining more than normal t his year, from what I have heard. But I still love the place.

One of my old favorites is back to work now that she finally split with her "serious" Colombian boyfriend. Good for me. I always enjoy her. Such a sweet girl. Will start seeing her again regularly. Probably.

Another girl re-surfaced. I had not seen her in two years, maybe more. She messaged out of the blue a few weeks ago. I was bored last night so invited her over at the last minute and she was thrilled to get out. Boy has she changed for the better. She is average in looks, but over the years I come to appreciate more the service and attitude than only the looks, as I've had some great looking girls give some bad service. She was awesome. She was up for anything. Really turn me on when she started drinking the milk from her tits. She stayed with me over night. Really a good time. She has a beautiful pussy.

I've seen my "girlfriend" also. Always fun to go out with her.

My biggest problems (always) is that my list of chicas is more than I have time for. Especially with my GF. I have to plan around my time with her. I am sure she knows I bang other women, but we do not talk about it. I have some new ones I've been talking to, so will report later.

ColombiaLover
05-23-19, 01:35
Yes. I did not want to post his name, but if you've been on FB much, you've probably seen him in fotos. He had a hot stable of girls. Just made the mistake of not sticking to the adults. He will have a tough time in prison.


Are we talking about that young guy often seen on Facebook with chicas usually from Bello? Forget his name but kind of creepy because he looks gay, like he's wearing makeup.

The Tall Man
05-23-19, 01:37
I am generally not interested in hooker girls, I am interested in picking up girls without money involved! That's the point!

I may, however, try a hooker girl if the price is as low as 15 $.In my life long experience I have come to understand that no matter how you cut it a non-hooker always ends up being more expensive. Been there and done that.

The Tall Man.

The Tall Man
05-23-19, 01:52
After some health issues, I am finally back in Medellin. It's been almost 5 months, the longest I've been away in many, many years. Not totally recovered, so not banging multiple chicas a day. Maybe next month.

I kept threatening to go back to centro to the casas or do a little street girl exploring, but so far have been too lazy. It has rained here every day for the past few days. It seems that it is raining more than normal t his year, from what I have heard. But I still love the place.

One of my old favorites is back to work now that she finally split with her "serious" Colombian boyfriend. Good for me. I always enjoy her. Such a sweet girl. Will start seeing her again regularly. Probably.

Another girl re-surfaced. I had not seen her in two years, maybe more..Hope that you have a speedy recovery. I have had some serious illness in decades past, a few stints that threw me sideways for the better part of a year, and knock on wood still going strong, have slowed down a lot just because of age but always mindful to eat right and exercise and manage stress.

Yes even I who live in Medellin almost full time just don't have the time needed to explore and satisfy the girls within my circle of influence let alone allowing new ones in the mix, but if the girl is cool and we get along I try her out and see if she "fits" what I am looking for. Yes I get what you say about some girls "resurfacing" after some time, it is always about timing and when the start are aligned it can be a great deal of fun.

Talking about the rain it was pouring hard last night on my drive from San Diego to home with my girl, then it rained most of the night, but the silver lining is that when it rains the girls become more motivated for getting off the street.

This all being said last night I took a drive over to the "calf" area by San Diego, found a cutie 18 yo [Deleted by Admin], with that nice body, no baby damage and slim and firm and best of all she is very inexperienced. I am very careful not to break my rule but I took her to my apartment for the night. My gut instincts proved me right as she is a sweetheart and was a real pleasure to sleep / cuddle and wake up this morning a make love to this delicate flower. Life is good! Drove her back to the area where she lives this morning at 11 AM, gave her 150 mil and was the best $50 bucks I have spent in a long time.

The Tall Man.

RipleyBailey
05-23-19, 02:18
Where is the best place I can grab some Cialis or Viagra in Parque Lleras? New to town.I bought some Sildenafil at a drugstore at the corner of Carrera 40 and Calle 10 near Parque Lleras a couple of weeks ago. I don't remember the price but it was cheap.

KillaCam11
05-23-19, 02:34
Yes. I did not want to post his name, but if you've been on FB much, you've probably seen him in fotos. He had a hot stable of girls. Just made the mistake of not sticking to the adults. He will have a tough time in prison.It's not that dude, turns out it's a girl who is also not old enough. Wow. Pimpin pimpin.

https://m.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/fiscalia-ocupa-dos-moteles-y-fincas-por-explotacion-sexual-de-menores-OC10748622

Mr Enternational
05-23-19, 02:39
So they treated you well for 150k and you want to punish them by paying them less? FB girls are usually 150 k. 200 k for a GFE experience. These girls struggle to get by. Most are single moms with no real future in store for them. I have made many girlfriends in Medellin and I treat them as I would want them to treat me. Why punish them by paying 14 dollars less?How is it a punishment? It is a business transaction. As a consumer I want to get the most for the least amount of money. When I go to Home Depot I get a military discount. Am I punishing Home Depot? When I go to Subway I get the punchcard where I buy 10 sandwiches. Am I punishing Subway when I get the 11th for free? These places always treat me well. Does that mean I should forgo the 10% discounted price of my tools or the free sandwich?

The other day I was looking for rosewood laser grips for one of my pistols. The gun manufacturer, Kimber, had it for $359. I searched ebay and found someone selling brand new ones for $220. I sent them a message asking if they would take $200. They accepted. Maybe they fell on hard times and had no choice but to sell at a deep discounted price. That was not my concern as a consumer. I made an offer and they were free to accept or decline. Why would you look at it as me punishing them because I paid $20 less than what they were asking when they were already selling the thing for 60% of the retail price?

Many posters here talk about the "struggle" of trying to get pussy back home where they are from. Do you see chicks having sympathy for them and offering discounts because of their struggle? No. Business is business. You pay the price that you negotiate. If you are able to negotiate a lower price then you are not punishing anyone; you are simply doing business.

RipleyBailey
05-23-19, 02:53
I just returned from 3.5 weeks in Colombia. 3 Days in Bogata. The rest of the time Medellin.

1. Bogata- Plenty of action in the Santa Fe area BUT I did not go there. I had the taxi driver take me around the area from the airport to my hotel. To me, it looked very sketchy. I'm a gringo and I look like a gringo. Maybe it wasn't as bad as it looked but I just couldn't do it. I ended up with a good experience at one of the massage parlors.

2. Medellin- There is good talent on photoprepagos.com. Had a stunning Venezolana for 150 k + taxi.

Went to Oriental Spa in Estadio area. Only two girls on a Wednesday evening. Took a cute girl with a decent body but had baby damage. It was a good full body oil massage with a handy. 90 k.

Went to Fantasia Energy also in Estadio. Lineup of 10 girls. 5 were doable. 3 were 7-8 face and body. 130 k (I think).

The rest of the time was scanning Parque Botero and the four streets surrounding Iglesia de Veracruz for street girls. All kinds there from 0 to 8. Fat, slim, cute, ugly, tranny, young, old. Whatever you like. Takes some time to find a gem. 50 k is about standard although 30 k is easy to find too. Short time hotels are about 5 or 15 k.

To all you Medellin veterans, where should I expand my hunting grounds to next time?

I tried the street running from Metro Berrio and Metro Prado, the areas around Parque Bolivar and between Parque Botero and La Minorista but did not fins anything.

IamLookin
05-23-19, 03:55
There is a difference in buying or haggling over an object vs a human being that has tried their best to satisfy your personal needs because they have no other means to support their family. Sure, when I was new at this I overpaid and I have told the girl that that was then but now here is what I pay. But where the girl goes for 200 K and does everything I want why should I ask her to take less? 50 K ($15) is what I pay for lunch in NYC so why should I do that? I have had girls come over even when I tell them I am just going to watch a movie, they come over anyway, have drinks and give me a freebie. Why a freebie? Because I treat them like a human being not an object that can be bought or sold at ebay at a discount.


How is it a punishment? It is a business transaction. As a consumer I want to get the most for the least amount of money. When I go to Home Depot I get a military discount. Am I punishing Home Depot? When I go to Subway I get the punchcard where I buy 10 sandwiches. Am I punishing Subway when I get the 11th for free? These places always treat me well. Does that mean I should forgo the 10% discounted price of my tools or the free sandwich?

The other day I was looking for rosewood laser grips for one of my pistols. The gun manufacturer, Kimber, had it for $359. I searched ebay and found someone selling brand new ones for $220. I sent them a message asking if they would take $200. They accepted. Maybe they fell on hard times and had no choice but to sell at a deep discounted price. That was not my concern as a consumer. I made an offer and they were free to accept or decline. Why would you look at it as me punishing them because I paid $20 less than what they were asking when they were already selling the thing for 60% of the retail price?

Many posters here talk about the "struggle" of trying to get pussy back home where they are from. Do you see chicks having sympathy for them and offering discounts because of their struggle? No. Business is business. You pay the price that you negotiate. If you are able to negotiate a lower price then you are not punishing anyone; you are simply doing business.

Mr Enternational
05-23-19, 04:39
But where the girl goes for 200 K and does everything I want why should I ask her to take less? I have had girls come over even when I tell them I am just going to watch a movie, they come over anyway, have drinks and give me a freebie.I got it. So it is okay if they want to punish themselves, but not okay if you ask to punish them. How are you going to get on him for asking for a 50K discount when you are getting a 200K discount? I guess these single moms struggling to get by with no real future in store for them must not be doing so bad after all when it comes time for you to get freebies. Amazing how that works.

Luminous
05-23-19, 04:55
Reminds me of the saying.

Why do women hate hookers?

Because hookers provide the best deal.


In my life long experience I have come to understand that no matter how you cut it a non-hooker always ends up being more expensive. Been there and done that.

The Tall Man.

IamLookin
05-23-19, 05:24
There is a big difference. I didn't ask for a discount or a freebie. They ask to come over because I treat them like a human being. Like a friend. Do I sometimes take them out to eat? - YES, Do I take them to the movies. YES, Do we hang out and listen to music at La 70? YES.

Do I sometimes take them on the tours or trips? YES.

Do you really think these girls do what they do because they like to? Do you really think they are making a lot of money? I have yet had a girl text me back that they are too busy to see me because they are so booked that they can't fit me in their calendar. ! The fact is that they are very grateful to have me repeat and see them again.

Look, if someone feels they have to squeeze them for less money I guess that is their choice. I love the women in Medellin not just for the sex but the ones I see I actually like to be with during the day.

To each his own I guess.


I got it. So it is okay if they want to punish themselves, but not okay if you ask to punish them. How are you going to get on him for asking for a 50K discount when you are getting a 200K discount? I guess these single moms struggling to get by with no real future in store for them must not be doing so bad after all when it comes time for you to get freebies. Amazing how that works.

FRobertson
05-23-19, 13:04
How is it a punishment? It is a business transaction. As a consumer I want to get the most for the least amount of money. When I go to Home Depot I get a military discount. Am I punishing Home Depot? When I go to Subway I get the punchcard where I buy 10 sandwiches. Am I punishing Subway when I get the 11th for free? These places always treat me well. Does that mean I should forgo the 10% discounted price of my tools or the free sandwich?

The other day I was looking for rosewood laser grips for one of my pistols. The gun manufacturer, Kimber, had it for $359. I searched ebay and found someone selling brand new ones for $220. I sent them a message asking if they would take $200. They accepted. Maybe they fell on hard times and had no choice but to sell at a deep discounted price. That was not my concern as a consumer. I made an offer and they were free to accept or decline. Why would you look at it as me punishing them because I paid $20 less than what they were asking when they were already selling the thing for 60% of the retail price?

Many posters here talk about the "struggle" of trying to get pussy back home where they are from. Do you see chicks having sympathy for them and offering discounts because of their struggle? No. Business is business. You pay the price that you negotiate. If you are able to negotiate a lower price then you are not punishing anyone; you are simply doing business.When I was young I haggled for everything everywhere. Even a bottle of water in China that was sold for 25 cents, I wanted to buy for 20 cents. So I understand where you're coming from. Eventually I got the need to prevail out of my system (for the most part).

The difference between getting a discount at Home Depot or at a business online vs. Girls in a third world country is that the ebay seller is probably making a good living and your $20 discount won't make much of a dent in their bottom line. But for the girls who come to you it makes a difference. They probably don't have a lineup of 10 clients every day. And if they are providing good service, instead of rewarding and encouraging it by paying their asking price, you are attempting to punish them for good behavior. Which is outright silly. Plus, your money is not going to any middleman. It's going directly to the provider, and quite frankly they are not getting rich off you. The amount in question is probably less than you leave in tips when having a dinner out when you're back in the sex prison. Perhaps thinking of it as an act of mercy rather than a pure business transaction may be productive, as pompous as this may sound.

NorthStar1
05-23-19, 13:58
Hi,

Got a few questions.

What's the fee on the BBVA and other major banks ATMs? My bank charges 1% plus whatever the local bank charges so I'm trying to balance not having too much cash with minimizing fees.

What does it mean when an Instagram account has photos of multiple women, I thought Instagram was one account per person? I can't tell for sure but it looks like there are accounts set up that "promote" various women. I ask because I've seen a couple of these where I know that one of them is a prepago, so can I infer that they are all prepagos?

When the women on FB or Instagram make the "peace" sign, is that supposed to indicate 200 mil? It seems like I only see them making the sign when wearing sexy lingerie or standing in front of a bed.

Which brings me to my last question of the day. Do civilian paisas post pictures of themselves in lingerie sitting on beds? I realize there are cultural differences but I'm seeing women on FB that will have a picture of a family birthday party followed by a very suggestive near-nude lingerie photo? It's strange to me that these girls would want their friends and family to see these photos but at the same time it's hard to believe that ALL of these women are prepagos. What does this mean?

Riina
05-23-19, 15:49
How is it a punishment? It is a business transaction. As a consumer I want to get the most for the least amount of money.I like to pay a girl what she's worth. Their's a lot I would miss out on if I was perceived as tight. Nobody likes to walk into a market and be exploited by an experienced and greedy trader.

Chicafan
05-23-19, 18:00
I got it. So it is okay if they want to punish themselves, but not okay if you ask to punish them. How are you going to get on him for asking for a 50K discount when you are getting a 200K discount? I guess these single moms struggling to get by with no real future in store for them must not be doing so bad after all when it comes time for you to get freebies. Amazing how that works.I tend to agree with IamLookin. Forgive me if I misread you but my perception from following your posts over the years is that you are the last person to pay well so what's it to you? It seems as if on one hand you want everything as cheap as possible for YOU. Did his post make you insecure? It is true that if a girl sees one as a consistent customer and friend she is going to give more than the one-off jack off tourist. She's still winning and it's good business for her. Some do try to take advantage but so what? It's never that expensive and the upside is you have actual friends to see. But that's no excuse for the guy that only intends to see a girl one time to hold her over a barrel because he thinks he's playing hard ball. IamLookin certainly was not being a hypocrite assuming he's being honest about developing a relationship and consistently seeing girls he likes. Makes sense to me.

Mr Enternational
05-23-19, 19:16
I tend to agree with IamLookin. Forgive me if I misread you but my perception from following your posts over the years is that you are the last person to pay well so what's it to you? It seems as if on one hand you want everything as cheap as possible for YOU. Did his post make you insecure?Insecure about what? I want things the cheapest for everyone. It does not bother me in the least bit because I seldom fuck with hookers. There are so many chicks that are not hookers to deal with that I don't find them a necessity, but a one-off for quick fun. And when I do deal with them I know how to negotiate my own price, so what the next man is paying would rarely affect me.

I just can't understand why he is jumping on the other poster for trying to negotiate. Pussy does a strange thing to some guys. They will get on expedia and look for a bargain on a ticket to get somewhere, get on hotelsdotcom to look for a good deal on a hotel, but don't you dare mention to them trying to get a discount on some pussy.


It is true that if a girl sees one as a consistent customer and friend she is going to give more than the one-off jack off tourist.Come on man. This is not true at all. I hardly ever repeat with a chick and really never report a bad session. How many posters have you seen say I fucked this chick the first couple of times and she was mediocre. But the fourth time I took her she blew my socks off because I was a consistent customer. FAKE NEWS.

If I DID repeat with chick then it was because she impressed me on the first encounter when she seen me as that one-off jack off tourist. How could she even hope to make you a consistent customer by giving shitty service on the initial meet?


IamLookin certainly was not being a hypocrite assuming he's being honest about developing a relationship and consistently seeing girls he likes. Makes sense to me.Actually you can not get more hypocritical than that. If you have really gotten to know someone and their situation is as bad as he has made it out to be, then how could you dare accept a freebie from someone you call a "friend" and you know them to be in such dire need? A stranger would not care if she was eaten by a tiger on the way home. He is just there to get his rocks off. But if you have developed a relationship with someone and you know this is how they are making a living, then you would have to be a low down character to accept free services from them at a time when they could be with someone else who they could actually get money from.

I live in Thailand and my "friends" that I know may need some extra cash, I find shit for them to do to make more cash, like offering them to come clean my place for me for $15. (The minimum wage there is $10 per day and it only takes about 2 hours to clean my place how I like it.) I don't just sit around watching movies and drinking with them and accepting freebies when I know they are on the verge of starving.

Wicked Witch
05-23-19, 19:32
The answer to your question really depends on your personal tastes. If you have lots of money and time and your exposure to PFP has been limited to Latinas than I would suggest for your next trip you go to Thailand and the Philippines. Two totally different places with nothing in common with one another except they are very far away to travel to.

For GFE in my opinion the Philippines is hard to beat.

For exotic women in my opinion, Thailand is great with exceptional food.

For Thailand I would recommend Bangkok and Pattya. For the Philippines I would recommend Angeles City and perhaps Manila.

After you have visited to these two countries you may have a totally different outlook on what you like, ie.

You may never want to come back to Medellin after going to one of these countries.

For me personally Medellin is hard to beat, close to the USA, exceptional weather, beautiful women, and inexpensive.Interesting that you would say Thailand has exotic women, I went there and the selection wasn't superb at all, oh well maybe I went at the wrong time of the year.

Fixed
05-23-19, 21:30
Hi,

Just beginning my hopeful long mongering career. Where exactly is this are located? I would really like to get a young 18-25 girl for GFE fun during my time at Medellin, and if isn't too much trouble what is the best approach with girls I this Area?

Surfer500
05-23-19, 22:18
Interesting that you would say Thailand has exotic women, I went there and the selection wasn't superb at all, oh well maybe I went at the wrong time of the year.I don't think the time of year makes much difference, perhaps you weren't in the right places or spent much time there. In my post I wasn't only referring to "Exotic" as meaning the appearance of the women but also sexually as well. Perhaps if you visit Thailand again you will find something you like, I've always had a great time there but with it being so far away and being so hot and humid much of the year my preference is Medellin.

Manizales911
05-24-19, 01:56
I'the rather never set foot in Bogota ever again. I want to go to Manizales / Periera for a few days and find the untapped paisa talent. I'the imagine it being much economical compared to any of the 4 major cities.Almost ALL of the real hot girls from Manizales leave and go to the big cities to work because they know that they can make much more money there than they can hustling in Manizales, not enough men with money to pay them what they can make in Cartagena etc. Manizales has plenty of cheap pussy just like any city but they aren't the "A" team, the "A" team is working in a big city and come home to Manizales to visit family and holidays. That said, Manizales is a big college town so there are a shit ton of hot girls there but you better have good spanish skills and game because they aren't working girls and there are plenty of young chicos to satisfy their needs, otherwise you are much better off hunting in one of the big cities. Not much to do there either, clean and relatively safe, weather is iffy and not really more economical. Worth the visit but don't expect some mongering utopia.

Nounce
05-24-19, 02:24
Interesting that you would say Thailand has exotic women, I went there and the selection wasn't superb at all, oh well maybe I went at the wrong time of the year.Although I don't know his definition but women in Thailand don't all look the same. It is not difficult to find a woman with very distinct facial feature that can be considered exotic looking and beautiful.

Thailand also has more variety of services like sexual massage, soapy and they are cleaner and their service level are much better than anything I have seen in South America. You can also just walk around after midnight near Nana and Cowboy and there are full of people. There are also several international chain hotels right in the middle of it, and you can just walk out of hotel door, pick a puta on a street or Thermae, walk back to your hotel all within 30 minutes.

IamLookin
05-24-19, 04:03
So if I am reading what you wrote correctly, if a girl were to contact me and say she wanted to hang out with me and if I tell her I just want to relax and was not interested in sex, but she still says she would like to come over anyway I should say no? I should tell her "no" and tell her that the next time she sees me she has to reduce her price by 50 K. Or maybe crawl around on the floor and beg? Why, Because I am sooo much better then she is. Truth is I do wind up giving her some money anyway, The point is I don't treat her like horse manure. Maybe, I should say no and tell her to come clean my apartment for 15 dollars. What a nice guy you are.


Insecure about what? I want things the cheapest for everyone. It does not bother me in the least bit because I seldom fuck with hookers. There are so many chicks that are not hookers to deal with that I don't find them a necessity, but a one-off for quick fun. And when I do deal with them I know how to negotiate my own price, so what the next man is paying would rarely affect me.

I just can't understand why he is jumping on the other poster for trying to negotiate. Pussy does a strange thing to some guys. They will get on expedia and look for a bargain on a ticket to get somewhere, get on hotelsdotcom to look for a good deal on a hotel, but don't you dare mention to them trying to get a discount on some pussy.

Come on man. This is not true at all. I hardly ever repeat with a chick and really never report a bad session. How many posters have you seen say I fucked this chick the first couple of times and she was mediocre. But the fourth time I took her she blew my socks off because I was a consistent customer. FAKE NEWS.

If I DID repeat with chick then it was because she impressed me on the first encounter when she seen me as that one-off jack off tourist. How could she even hope to make you a consistent customer by giving shitty service on the initial meet?

Actually you can not get more hypocritical than that. If you have really gotten to know someone and their situation is as bad as he has made it out to be, then how could you dare accept a freebie from someone you call a "friend" and you know them to be in such dire need? A stranger would not care if she was eaten by a tiger on the way home. He is just there to get his rocks off. But if you have developed a relationship with someone and you know this is how they are making a living, then you would have to be a low down character to accept free services from them at a time when they could be with someone else who they could actually get money from.

I live in Thailand and my "friends" that I know may need some extra cash, I find shit for them to do to make more cash, like offering them to come clean my place for me for $15. (The minimum wage there is $10 per day and it only takes about 2 hours to clean my place how I like it.) I don't just sit around watching movies and drinking with them and accepting freebies when I know they are on the verge of starving..

Nounce
05-24-19, 04:21
So if I am reading what you wrote correctly, if a girl were to contact me and say she wanted to hang out with me and if I tell her I just want to relax and was not interested in sex, but she still says she would like to come over anyway I should say no? I should tell her "no" and tell her that the next time she sees me she has to reduce her price by 50 K. Or maybe crawl around on the floor and beg? Why, Because I am sooo much better then she is. Truth is I do wind up giving her some money anyway, The point is I don't treat her like horse manure. Maybe, I should say no and tell her to come clean my apartment for 15 dollars. What a nice guy you are.

.Mr E has a poin. You just don't know why. I don't have his answer but what I know is this. If you are in a divorce in front of the judge dividing asset. The judge only looks at numbers, he will not care how you treat each other at all because that is not written in law. If you deal with accountant or attorneys often, you will tend to agree with Mr E from that perspective.

BayMonger
05-24-19, 05:23
First time poster, thank you all for the tips.

Seasoned monger here. Costa Rica x2, Panama, DR x2, Tijuana all my life.

Finally booked a Medellíand trip. Over Thanksgiving. 10 nights.

Question. How is Medellín during this time?

I'm thinking 5 nights in Laureles and 5 in El Poblado. Any objections to that?

I speak decent Spanish, enough to get by. And I don't dar papaya to anyone.

Appreciate your insight.

Mr Enternational
05-24-19, 05:36
So if I am reading what you wrote correctly, if a girl were to contact me and say she wanted to hang out with me and if I tell her I just want to relax and was not interested in sex, but she still says she would like to come over anyway I should say no? I should tell her "no" and tell her that the next time she sees me she has to reduce her price by 50 K. My mistake. I must have read it wrong. I read it as you would pay chicks 200K for a session. These chicks are really poor and desperate and have no choice but to make a living selling sex, which they rather not do. Other punters should not ask chicks to accept less that what they had previously given them because that is a punishment for these chicks who have no future. Sometimes you would get freebies from these chicks that you customarily pay 200K to. Now in this post you are just hanging out and no freebies or reduced rate is involved. I do not remember anyone in any post mentioning or alluding to treating anyone bad or even worse, like horse manure.

Who said the chick had to reduce her price? She is free to decline as the OP said that 2 chicks did in the first place. What if he had contacted the chick to pay her the 150K same as before and the chick had said no. Now I must get paid 200K. Would you jump down her throat about trying to charge more than he was giving her before? Or is this a case of all fault falls on the rich foreign monger?

Kosher Kowboy
05-24-19, 14:37
First time poster, thank you all for the tips.

Seasoned monger here. Costa Rica x2, Panama, DR x2, Tijuana all my life.

Finally booked a Medelland trip. Over Thanksgiving. 10 nights.

Question. How is Medelln during this time?

I'm thinking 5 nights in Laureles and 5 in El Poblado. Any objections to that?

I speak decent Spanish, enough to get by. And I don't dar papaya to anyone.

Appreciate your insight.Welcome to the ISG and the guys here can welcome you and give you much better tips than I. I rarely give papayas to any one either just like to buy them sliced up from the locals help them out a little rather cheap to buy and refreshing but I think you might have meant propinas. I never did Tijuana much rather hundreds of trips to the MX border towns on the TX border but ours went to shit, lots of CR, plenty in the Spanish brothels more so in BCN and tons of Colombian girls in the Dutch Antilles ( Mainly SXM) and recently a few trips a year to PTY but kicking myself for those considering a little longer journey I could have gone right to the source but the language school I was working with was there but I see one very good one near this El Poblano area and my teacher here (from Medellin) knows the staff.

I am starting out with a short trip for 5 days as my goal is to return if I like it and I currently for the last three years have been going to Germany monthly for 5-12 days but than have three weeks of nothing here so MDE I am hoping will be a good cheap (er) way to fill in the gaps. FWIW I have been comparing the FB profiles of many of the girls down there to the FKK girls and I think the ones down there have an edge in looks as they seem to rely more on natural beauty where the Romanian ones (80- 90 percent the work force in GER) seem to rely much more on the snapshat and other programs filters. I think after all my travels it is safe to say no matter what our ' resumes' are they can help us but any new place will involve a learning curve, a few mistakes and to just keep it simple. The guys here can probably best coach you on your proposed itinerary.

I plan to keep my maiden voyage 'simple' and do 5 days. I will go Monday to Friday as I am told weekends can be hit or miss as the girls are with their boyfriends / loverboys / pimps sometimes all one in the same. I plan to stay at the advise of some in this forum from posts as well as guys who know my exact style, type of girls, desire, service levels, spending habits etc who know me personally or from my posts on the GER forums to stay at this Hotel M ( if still open) for my first trip. I think (am told) you will find it similar yet different to the setup at SL in SJ / CR if you ever stayed there. I am also told to complement it with this club FASO (sp?) as they tell me that the LU at Faso is equal to the top 20-50 percentile in the FKK Clubs and that there is another club in MDE (more money) that matches up to the top 20 percentile in FKK clubs in Hessen.

I wish you a good time on your trip. I had a bunch of WhatsApps from girls down there in my phone I accumulated from PTY but each and everyone of them asked me for money so just like on the other side of the ocean my refusal to send money was met with being blocked

Some things don't change! And your Spanish should help a tad at least it has with me in my travels, no sitting there passing the phones back and forth and can only speak from my own experiences the girls seem to appreciate being able to speak in their native tongue more and have a better time if with a guy they can talk to easier (just my opinion, I could be wrong).

Buen viaje!

And to the guy who posted about GER beating out MDE I can not say it will beat it out as we are all different but it can offer a unique experience you may not find anywhere else in the world and many more options than just the FKK Clubs to have fun. PM me if you want. Worth one trip to get it in the books.

And Happy Memorial Day to any vets down there.

KK.

Balboa
05-24-19, 15:55
Welcome to the ISG and the guys here can welcome you and give you much better tips than I. I rarely give papayas to any one either just like to buy them sliced up from the locals help them out a little rather cheap to buy and refreshing but I think you might have meant propinas.

KK.It's a saying in Colombia, LOL.
I found this explanation below:

"Dar papaya".

This phrase is extremely common in Colombia. I am not sure how this phrase first began, and it has always seemed a bit strange to me. Literally, "dar papaya" means "to give papaya. " However, when you hear someone say, "no des papaya," they are not telling you to "not give someone papaya. " They are actually telling you to be carefulto not set yourself up or make yourself an easy target. Most often, you will hear this when people want to warn you about theft. For instance, leaving money out on your desk at work while you go to the WC. Would be "dando papaya. " Or, if you are going to the downtown areas of Colombia, using your brand new iPhone while in the street markets would be "dando papaya. " In both cases, you are setting yourself up for something to be taken from youyou are making yourself an obvious target

Balboa
05-24-19, 16:20
Mr E has a poin. You just don't know why. I don't have his answer but what I know is this. If you are in a divorce in front of the judge dividing asset. The judge only looks at numbers, he will not care how you treat each other at all because that is not written in law. If you deal with accountant or attorneys often, you will tend to agree with Mr E from that perspective.Come on man, the guy IamLookin is just a nice guy with a good heart.

He obviously treats girls right, and they respond well to him.

Yes, of course you can take the transactional approach like an accountant or attorney like you say.

I can't refute the logic that Mr E posts.

His method and attitude will work just fine.

However, regardless of what he or whoever says, treating girls right, showing some heart, and not just with money, but with kindness, pays off.

It's not difficult to tell which girls are the sharks looking for naive gringos to over pay, and which girls are sweet and humble just trying to get by.

Again, the transactional approach works.

You'll get some booty.

Not my style.

I'm more in line with how IamLookin rolls.

I've been at this a long time.

Over 20 years in Colombia and Brazil.

The approach with heart, and brains as well, you don't want to be an idiot, works great for me and has paid off incredibly.

Guys can go at it whichever way they please obviously, I'm just more in line with the sweeter approach, LOL.

Kosher Kowboy
05-24-19, 16:21
It's a saying in Colombia, LOL.
I found this explanation below:

"Dar papaya".

This phrase is extremely common in Colombia. I am not sure how this phrase first began, and it has always seemed a bit strange to me. Literally, "dar papaya" means "to give papaya. " However, when you hear someone say, "no des papaya," they are not telling you to "not give someone papaya. " They are actually telling you to be carefulto not set yourself up or make yourself an easy target. Most often, you will hear this when people want to warn you about theft. For instance, leaving money out on your desk at work while you go to the WC. Would be "dando papaya. " Or, if you are going to the downtown areas of Colombia, using your brand new iPhone while in the street markets would be "dando papaya. " In both cases, you are setting yourself up for something to be taken from youyou are making yourself an obvious targetLearn something new everyday, thanks for the explanation. Seems it relates more to crime / theft than with the girls and I ' worry' more in theory of the crime than negotiations with the girls. Half the Colombian girls in PTY I was told by the MDE guy I was with also work this Hotel M and some clubs and he said they drive a much tougher line in PTY than at home which is another reason I am interested in checking them out; they were beautiful girls. It seemed however to get them down in price and up in service levels I had to play them off the girls from Venezuela, Cuba and Panama and if that didn't work usually 1/2 a bottle of tequilla did. The Colombian girls hated those other girls and seemed to look down on them and were not happy they worked for less.

Good to know. Thanks for clarifying.

Surfer500
05-24-19, 16:21
First time poster, thank you all for the tips.

Seasoned monger here. Costa Rica x2, Panama, DR x2, Tijuana all my life.

Finally booked a Medelland trip. Over Thanksgiving. 10 nights.

Question. How is Medelln during this time?

I'm thinking 5 nights in Laureles and 5 in El Poblado. Any objections to that?.If you have been going to Tijuana all your life, have stayed overnight in Cahuilla, like say at Leyva Hotel, and like street girls, and speak Spanish, then you might want to consider staying in El Centro.

Surfer500
05-24-19, 16:27
It's a saying in Colombia, LOL.
I found this explanation below:

"Dar papaya".

This phrase is extremely common in Colombia. I am not sure how this phrase first began, and it has always seemed a bit strange to me. Literally, "dar papaya" means "to give papaya. " However, when you hear someone say, "no des papaya," they are not telling you to "not give someone papaya. " They are actually telling you to be carefulto not set yourself up or make yourself an easy target. Most often, you will hear this when people want to warn you about theft. For instance, leaving money out on your desk at work while you go to the WC. Would be "dando papaya. " Or, if you are going to the downtown areas of Colombia, using your brand new iPhone while in the street markets would be "dando papaya. " In both cases, you are setting yourself up for something to be taken from youyou are making yourself an obvious target" Don't get caught with your pants down".

Balboa
05-24-19, 16:40
. Seems it relates more to crime / theft than with the girls and I ' worry' more in theory of the crime than negotiations with the girls. Half the Colombian girls in PTY I was told by the MDE guy I was with also work this Hotel M and some clubs and he said they drive a much tougher line in PTY than at home

.The saying "no des papaya" relates to crime and everything else, like negotiating, etc.

Don't be a fool.

In general, the traveling WG, to Panama, CR, Europe, etc is much harder line than the local girls in their native land.

There are the hard core girls at home too, however, the sweeter, more humble ones, you'll find at their native land.

Kosher Kowboy
05-24-19, 16:56
The saying "no des papaya" relates to crime and everything else, like negotiating, etc.

Don't be a fool.

In general, the traveling WG, to Panama, CR, Europe, etc is much harder line than the local girls in their native land.

There are the hard core girls at home too, however, the sweeter, more humble ones, you'll find at their native land.I would agree especially with your last line. Often the travel expenses from lodging to paying for the VISAS not to mention the pimps most seem to have to cover an overhead higher than home and I am sure as you say some are hard core still. I remember one girl from Bogota (so she said) after a session at the Hyatt Place (prior to chica fees) asked for taxi money and I told her ' no' but that I would see her again and she told me not needed to walk her downstairs but I always did as the hotel manager always told me they like the girl to be accompanied in and out. She (as I expected) was not picked up by a taxi rather some guy barely taller than the steering wheel (maybe sitting on phone books) in some shit car who gave her a big kiss. Same game, different place slight variances but I look forward to a break from these Romanians who are managed very heavily and overly aggressive (unless they know you.) Hope he ate her out as I left him some DNA codes as a gift.

As you say the natives are kinder, same with the actual German girls but they make up maybe only 5 percent of the LUs.

FRobertson
05-24-19, 17:21
Come on man, the guy IamLookin is just a nice guy with a good heart.

He obviously treats girls right, and they respond well to him.

Yes, of course you can take the transactional approach like an accountant or attorney like you say.

I can't refute the logic that Mr E posts.

His method and attitude will work just fine.

However, regardless of what he or whoever says, treating girls right, showing some heart, and not just with money, but with kindness, pays off.

It's not difficult to tell which girls are the sharks looking for naive gringos to over pay, and which girls are sweet and humble just trying to get by..No matter how nice someone is to a working girl, the fundamental relationship is unequal. As in, he can always get up and leave. And once again heart will not keep the girl and her children fed. Sharks will always get more money out of foreigners than nice girls. Simply because they know how to exploit our weaknesses and capitalize on them. But we don't want the mongering world to be full of only sharks, do we?

Suppose you arrive in a new city and see a lady selling nice home made pies around the corner. If you're nice enough to her and she starts giving you pies for free, is that a good thing? In the short run, sure. In the long run, it's a limited resource that she could have sold but instead gave away. Saving a few dollars won't make a meaningful impact on your financial position, but making sure she has those few extra dollars just might make a difference for her in some way.

The Tall Man
05-24-19, 17:23
Hi,

Just beginning my hopeful long mongering career. Where exactly is this are located? I would really like to get a young 18-25 girl for GFE fun during my time at Medellin, and if isn't too much trouble what is the best approach with girls I this Area?Welcome to the board!

Have you been to Colombia before? Medellin? The "calf" area is really digging deep into the street scene and is not for the faint of heart nor a Medellin newbie as it requires time and effort and either a car or a Colombian friend with a car. You need patience but when you score you can find literally the diamond in the rough as I did a few nights ago with an 18 yo (yes I verified which you must do in this area) who provided me with an experience as if I was in my teenage years again, very surreal experience.

If your in Medellin for a week or two it is simply not worth the efforts as you will be pressed for time. This area requires time and effort and patience to develop a favorable outcome. I spend a hour or two and troll this area in my car, when I see something I like I will talk to the girl, then get her whatapp and start a dialogue with her in a day or two. Then the next time I see her in the calf area she knows me and I take it from there. Just my MO that has worked for me.

The "calf" area has been know for decades and decades by local Colombian men, it got it's name "calf" as young calf's need to always be sucking to get it's milk (ie leche) so you can get the parallels. A picture speaks a thousand words so look at this photo below and you will understand why the "calf" area is the perfect description. This was explained to me by a much older Colombian guy friend who has been frequenting this area for literally the past 30 or 40 years.

It is located in a roughly a 5 block area and the center is about the intersection of Cr 48 and CL 40. In the daytime this area is filled with car mechanic shops and car dealerships but at night, after about 10 or 11 PM the street walkers show up, just be careful as there are many tranies and also many are puffing the glue BUT like I said with patience and effort this area can reap big rewards.

The Tall Man.

Surfer500
05-24-19, 18:43
Welcome to the board!

Have you been to Colombia before? Medellin? The "calf" area is really digging deep into the street scene and is not for the faint of heart nor a Medellin newbie as it requires time and effort and either a car or a Colombian friend with a car. You need patience but when you score you can find literally the diamond in the rough as I did a few nights ago with an 18 yo (yes I verified which you must do in this area) who provided me with an experience as if I was in my teenage years again, very surreal experience.

If your in Medellin for a week or two it is simply not worth the efforts as you will be pressed for time. This area requires time and effort and patience to develop a favorable outcome. I spend a hour or two and troll this area in my car, when I see something I like I will talk to the girl, then get her whatapp and start a dialogue with her in a day or two. Then the next time I see her in the calf area she knows me and I take it from there. Just my MO that has worked for me..Interesting area between the Alpujjara and Exposciones Metro stations. I have been in that area frequently during the day buying hard to find plumbing and mechanical supplies and never imagined there being a street scene at night. And as you mentioned not a place for a rookie, an obvious gringo, and someone not fluent in Spanish to visit late at night!

BayMonger
05-24-19, 19:18
If you have been going to Tijuana all your life, have stayed overnight in Cahuilla, like say at Leyva Hotel, and like street girls, and speak Spanish, then you might want to consider staying in El Centro.Thanks for the tips. Stayed many nights in Tijuana but have never been a street scene type. I prefer college age GFE material, so HK has been my stomping grounds. Yes it's more expensive but I prefer to spend a few hours with a novia rather than plow through 3 street chicks for the same price.

After reading 30 pages of this thread, I don't think the 50 K Centro girls will do it for me. I'm not saying I need 9-10's, I prefer a cool 6-7 that won't watch the clock, will go above and beyond, and will gladly provide GFE, maybe even cook me a meal.

Don't worry fellas, I'm not going to overpay anyone and ruin it for others. I'll pay the going rates and add a propina when warranted.

I'm thinking 5 nights in Parque Lleras to be around the nightlife, and the. 5 in Laureles to get away from it all.

Mr Enternational
05-25-19, 03:55
I'm thinking 5 nights in Parque Lleras to be around the nightlife, and the. 5 in Laureles to get away from it all.What are you getting away from? There is nightlife in Laureles and it is cheaper than Parque Lleras.

Knowledge
05-25-19, 06:11
When you read the 30 pages I think you maybe missed the one that mentioned the 50 k Centro girls who go work Parque Lleras at night to collect 200 k and up. I guess they turn into higher class girls when they pass Parque Poblado on the way to Lleras.


Thanks for the tips. Stayed many nights in Tijuana but have never been a street scene type. I prefer college age GFE material, so HK has been my stomping grounds. Yes it's more expensive but I prefer to spend a few hours with a novia rather than plow through 3 street chicks for the same price.

After reading 30 pages of this thread, I don't think the 50 K Centro girls will do it for me. I'm not saying I need 9-10's, I prefer a cool 6-7 that won't watch the clock, will go above and beyond, and will gladly provide GFE, maybe even cook me a meal.

Don't worry fellas, I'm not going to overpay anyone and ruin it for others. I'll pay the going rates and add a propina when warranted.

I'm thinking 5 nights in Parque Lleras to be around the nightlife, and the. 5 in Laureles to get away from it all.

JjBee62
05-25-19, 11:42
What are you getting away from? There is nightlife in Laureles and it is cheaper than Parque Lleras.The crowds in Laureles are crazy when there's a big game at the stadium.

PolloNegro
05-25-19, 12:31
We get a flood on the thread of the rate of prices, the dangers of Centro, the treatment of the girls. I agree with Mr E, its business, plain and simple. Spending more money will not make a difference, but it's your money spend it how you see fit. I've been nice, done dinner, played reserve, the service was always better when I paid the minimum amount and the competition was greater. The Venezuelans are keeping prices in check. BTW I will be in Bogota & Medellin next week. Pollo negro is out!

Jooks
05-25-19, 13:58
Oriental Spa? Thoughts? Anything else?

Thanks!

Combo
05-25-19, 15:56
Welcome to the board!

Have you been to Colombia before? Medellin? The "calf" area is really digging deep into the street scene and is not for the faint of heart nor a Medellin newbie as it requires time and effort and either a car or a Colombian friend with a car. You need patience but when you score you can find literally the diamond in the rough as I did a few nights ago with an 18 yo (yes I verified which you must do in this area) who provided me with an experience as if I was in my teenage years again, very surreal experience.

If your in Medellin for a week or two it is simply not worth the efforts as you will be pressed for time. This area requires time and effort and patience to develop a favorable outcome. I spend a hour or two and troll this area in my car, when I see something I like I will talk to the girl, then get her whatapp and start a dialogue with her in a day or two. Then the next time I see her in the calf area she knows me and I take it from there. Just my MO that has worked for me.

The "calf" area has been know for decades and decades by local Colombian men, it got it's name "calf" as young calf's need to always be sucking to get it's milk (ie leche) so you can get the parallels. A picture speaks a thousand words so look at this photo below and you will understand why the "calf" area is the perfect description. This was explained to me by a much older Colombian guy friend who has been frequenting this area for literally the past 30 or 40 years.

It is located in a roughly a 5 block area and the center is about the intersection of Cr 48 and CL 40. In the daytime this area is filled with car mechanic shops and car dealerships but at night, after about 10 or 11 PM the street walkers show up, just be careful as there are many tranies and also many are puffing the glue BUT like I said with patience and effort this area can reap big rewards.

The Tall Man.Very close to Niquitao, which also can be a fruitful area.

NorthStar1
05-25-19, 16:15
I have a Question regarding mileroticos and photoprepagos. Some of the ads sound like they're FBSM not Full Service and I recall the BP and craigslist days when FBSM providers would have ambiguous ads that sounded like they were FS when they actually weren't. You could usually screen for this by their hhr and HR pricing. What got me suspicious is that the 60 and 90 mil "special" ladies are just as hot as the ones who are quoting 180 mil but many don't mention "vaginal relaciones" specifically, so I'm wondering if not everyone is providing sex and if that means I have to actively screen for it. I'm not a BJ guy so I could care less about CBJ or BBBJ, but full service is non-negotiable for me. Of course I'll ask them directly when I see someone of particular interest, but because I'm short on time and my Spanish isn't great, I'd like to ask the more experienced mongers here: is full service a given or can you find yourself in a no-sex situation if you fail to clarify in advance? Again, I'm referring to the mileroticos and photoprepagos ladies.

Thanks in advance!

Surfer500
05-25-19, 16:17
Very close to Niquitao, which also can be a fruitful area.Is this a nighttime area only or also a daytime area as well?

IamLookin
05-25-19, 17:48
I prefer Laureles over Parque Lleras. Plenty of places to listen to music and drink, Prices much cheaper. Parque lleras is a sex tourist park where all the young colombianas try to gouch unsuspecting touristas. Fun to see it and visit but I prefer Laureles.


Thanks for the tips. Stayed many nights in Tijuana but have never been a street scene type. I prefer college age GFE material, so HK has been my stomping grounds. Yes it's more expensive but I prefer to spend a few hours with a novia rather than plow through 3 street chicks for the same price.

After reading 30 pages of this thread, I don't think the 50 K Centro girls will do it for me. I'm not saying I need 9-10's, I prefer a cool 6-7 that won't watch the clock, will go above and beyond, and will gladly provide GFE, maybe even cook me a meal.

Don't worry fellas, I'm not going to overpay anyone and ruin it for others. I'll pay the going rates and add a propina when warranted.

I'm thinking 5 nights in Parque Lleras to be around the nightlife, and the. 5 in Laureles to get away from it all.

The Tall Man
05-25-19, 18:18
I prefer Laureles over Parque Lleras. Plenty of places to listen to music and drink, Prices much cheaper. Parque lleras is a sex tourist park where all the young colombianas try to gouch unsuspecting touristas. Fun to see it and visit but I prefer Laureles.I recall my first visits and stays in Medellin 9 years ago and parque lleras was a really cool and quaint place BUT those days are long gone. Last night I braved the intense rain and took a drive all through centro and the "calf" area in San Diego THEN just for the shit and giggles of it drove over to Park Lleras, this was the first visit back here in probably a year and my gut tells me that I hate the vibe, nothing special at all for me. To each his own. After driving around I returned to centro and had a drink at Barra Executivo and talked with some friends outside and in Maricaibo bar.

Returned home and now ready to go at it another day!

The Tall Man.

The Tall Man
05-25-19, 18:20
Very close to Niquitao, which also can be a fruitful area.Combo. Where exactly is niquitao? I want to check it out.

The Tall Man.

Blue Touch
05-25-19, 18:20
Plus Envigado.


I prefer Laureles over Parque Lleras. Plenty of places to listen to music and drink, Prices much cheaper. Parque lleras is a sex tourist park where all the young colombianas try to gouch unsuspecting touristas. Fun to see it and visit but I prefer Laureles.

Jooks
05-25-19, 19:58
Recently retired and moved to Laureles. Mongering had little to do with my decision, but it surely played a part.

I finally had some time to partake in activities after a month of taking care of this and that. As a tourist, I relied on FB, Tinder, Seeking Arrangements, etc. Never clubs. I decided to check out Oriental Spa because it's close and my preference is for a good massage with a he. I wasn't impressed, though I may return. The girls ranged from 2-7 with an average of 4. Then again, it was only 12 pm.

Sex has evolved with me to the point I'm happiest with a good massage and he from a not so mechanical provider with decent looks. Can someone steer me to a place that fits the bill?

Combo
05-25-19, 20:10
Combo. Where exactly is niquitao? I want to check it out.

The Tall Man.I don't know the technical boundaries, but I'd guess Cra 44 and CL 44 and a bit up the hill from there. Cuidado.

JjBee62
05-25-19, 23:57
Recently retired and moved to Laureles. Mongering had little to do with my decision, but it surely played a part.

I finally had some time to partake in activities after a month of taking care of this and that. As a tourist, I relied on FB, Tinder, Seeking Arrangements, etc. Never clubs. I decided to check out Oriental Spa because it's close and my preference is for a good massage with a he. I wasn't impressed, though I may return. The girls ranged from 2-7 with an average of 4. Then again, it was only 12 pm.

Sex has evolved with me to the point I'm happiest with a good massage and he from a not so mechanical provider with decent looks. Can someone steer me to a place that fits the bill?I would suggest hitting up the regular spas. You'll at least get the good massage and I imagine you can find one or two masseuses who are willing to offer a handshake for a reasonable propina. Might have to hit a few of them to find a winner.

Chicago85
05-26-19, 00:05
Oriental Spa? Thoughts? Anything else?

Thanks!Energy is one of the better ones in that area.

DannyBoy99
05-26-19, 00:22
If anyone has any recent experience visiting casas like new life, energy, Loutron, the popular and good ones, please share experience. Visiting this week and want some honest and recent input of where the better service is to be had. I'll also update you all when I arrive later this week.

BayMonger
05-26-19, 01:21
I prefer Laureles over Parque Lleras. Plenty of places to listen to music and drink, Prices much cheaper. Parque lleras is a sex tourist park where all the young colombianas try to gouch unsuspecting touristas. Fun to see it and visit but I prefer Laureles.Great advice. Would you recommend I stay all 11 nights at the same place in Laureles? I kinda wanted to break it up into 2 spots for the trip.

Magaman
05-26-19, 09:48
I would suggest hitting up the regular spas. You'll at least get the good massage and I imagine you can find one or two masseuses who are willing to offer a handshake for a reasonable propina. Might have to hit a few of them to find a winner.What's a good foot massage go for? I'm not sure I can give up 250 baht foot massages.

Mickey27
05-26-19, 10:43
Hello,

Before my next trip, I read info here. So now I have some knowledge about the prices in Medellin.

Also I talk with few girls in photoprepagos.

Average prices 160-200 milcop. The best (in my opinion) 200-30 for 1 hour.

One of the girl sent me photo and suggest this girl for 650 cop in hour, + 100 anal.

Yes, I understand that it is very high price, but what your opinion? Can I met such type of the girls in La Isla or Fase 2 cheaper?

Turgid
05-26-19, 11:27
.......... just for the shit and giggles of it drove over to Park Lleras, this was the first visit back here in probably a year and my gut tells me that I hate the vibe, nothing special at all for me. To each his own...........Park Lleras is a place for solo mongers who miss home and want to hook up with countrymen. It never disappoints in that respect.

Giz99
05-26-19, 13:34
I have a Question regarding mileroticos and photoprepagos. Some of the ads sound like they're FBSM not Full Service and I recall the BP and craigslist days when FBSM providers would have ambiguous ads that sounded like they were FS when they actually weren't. You could usually screen for this by their hhr and HR pricing. What got me suspicious is that the 60 and 90 mil "special" ladies are just as hot as the ones who are quoting 180 mil but many don't mention "vaginal relaciones" specifically, so I'm wondering if not everyone is providing sex and if that means I have to actively screen for it. I'm not a BJ guy so I could care less about CBJ or BBBJ, but full service is non-negotiable for me. Of course I'll ask them directly when I see someone of particular interest, but because I'm short on time and my Spanish isn't great, I'd like to ask the more experienced mongers here: is full service a given or can you find yourself in a no-sex situation if you fail to clarify in advance? Again, I'm referring to the mileroticos and photoprepagos ladies.

Thanks in advance!Just message them with WhatsApp and ask them. Tell them your Spanish is bad and use Google translate. You may be able to line up some real Gems.

Knowledge
05-26-19, 14:31
Read the forum, the information is accurate and up to date. The prices listed may be a few pesos lower than now but nothing significant.


If anyone has any recent experience visiting casas like new life, energy, Loutron, the popular and good ones, please share experience. Visiting this week and want some honest and recent input of where the better service is to be had. I'll also update you all when I arrive later this week.

Knowledge
05-26-19, 14:35
It is also a place where people can reconnect to the prices of home. It is why the places slightly off the beaten track that cater to locals and charge local prices (E. G. Mondongos) are always packed to the gills, but you can always get a table at Basilica / Al Rojo.


Park Lleras is a place for solo mongers who miss home and want to hook up with countrymen. It never disappoints in that respect.

RudeBwoy100
05-26-19, 16:31
Park Lleras is a place for solo mongers who miss home and want to hook up with countrymen. It never disappoints in that respect.I'm a solo monger (very anti social, recluse, hermit, whatever you want to call it), how is the mongering scene like in Park Lleras; are there casas, strip clubs, massage parlours there & short time hotels there? Also what are the prices?

IamLookin
05-26-19, 19:10
Hi, Difficult to answer your question as I don't know what your likes and dislikes are? Most guys here prefer to stay in el centro, or Parque Llerars / Poblado or Laureles. So it is a personal choice. I stay in Laureles as it is only a 12 minute ride to Parque Lleras if I get the urge to go or if I am going to meet someone there. El Centro is not for everyone, but that is only my opinion.


Great advice. Would you recommend I stay all 11 nights at the same place in Laureles? I kinda wanted to break it up into 2 spots for the trip.

IamLookin
05-26-19, 19:18
Hi Blue Touch, I heard that Evigado is very nice. Can you give us some detail? Is it like Laureles? What it the atmosphere like? Chica places?

Thanks.


Plus Envigado.

Luminous
05-26-19, 19:23
Massage at Oriental Spa kind of places is pretty bad. So if you want a good massage. Find a real massage place. Don't mix massage and mongering.


I would suggest hitting up the regular spas. You'll at least get the good massage and I imagine you can find one or two masseuses who are willing to offer a handshake for a reasonable propina. Might have to hit a few of them to find a winner.

Surfer500
05-26-19, 20:14
Great advice. Would you recommend I stay all 11 nights at the same place in Laureles? I kinda wanted to break it up into 2 spots for the trip.I would not recommend staying in Laureles for your entire trip. Laureles is very nice, and a lot of the gringos you will see there live there with some tourists staying there as well. I suspect you will get board there after a few days and would recommend you spend some of your time near Parque Lleras. I personally don't like it there, however there are some very nice surrounding barrios such as Provenza which is the next block up the hill from Parque Lleras. A very upscale area with lots of bars and restaurants frequented by young wealthy Colombians and a mixture of gringos who live in the surrounding areas. Additionally there are other barrios you can easily walk to with lots of very good restaurants in the Patio Bonito, Astorga, La Linde and Manilla barrios all within a ten minute radius of Parque Lleras. The cost of food and drink in the restaurants immediately around Parque Lleras will not be significantly more than most of the places in Laureles, however there are some very upscale restaurants in the surrounding areas I mentioned which are expensive. As far as women in Parque Lleras, they will be out later in the evenings walking around the area and if your older with gray hair and seem to be a gringo you may be approached by them. They will be easy to spot and typically will be closer to thirty versus twenty and mostly well dressed. Typically in the bars immediately surrounding Parque LLeras you will also see a lots of Colombian women having drinks with their girlfriends. If your good looking, have game, and are fluent in Spanish you may score. Again I don't like the Parque Lleras vibe, however I do eat in the upscale restaurants in the barrios I mentioned with friends because the food is good but don't monger there as the opportunities aren't worth it. You still may want to consider a few days in El Centro but it will be way different than Laureles or Parque LLeras and way cheaper. Have a good time!

Jooks
05-26-19, 23:07
OK guys, I give up. Help!

I'm mostly only into good massages with spectacular endings. Secret and Oriental Spa let me down sorely. Both were comparatively expensive 90.000 - 120.000 for an hour with mediocre women. Too much for what I got. I'm willing to go most anywhere in Medellin that's relatively safe. Unfortunately, that may leave out El Centro during the week since. I go to language school and don't get out until 4. I don't want to visit El Centro at night, at least until I know it better.

Fun Luvr
05-27-19, 00:03
I'm a solo monger (very anti social, recluse, hermit, whatever you want to call it), how is the mongering scene like in Park Lleras; are there casas, strip clubs, massage parlours there & short time hotels there? Also what are the prices?Answer is no to all your questions. There are freelancers around the park later at night (usually after 10 pm). A majority are below average in looks. Because of so much rain at night recently, free are out walking.

JjBee62
05-27-19, 00:08
What's a good foot massage go for? I'm not sure I can give up 250 baht foot massages.I don't know. I've never seen the point in just getting my feet massaged. Full body massages run from 40-70 k for 1 hour. Anything extra, if offered would be extra charge.

JjBee62
05-27-19, 00:16
It is also a place where people can reconnect to the prices of home. It is why the places slightly off the beaten track that cater to locals and charge local prices (E. G. Mondongos) are always packed to the gills, but you can always get a table at Basilica / Al Rojo.Although Thaico has all their menu items at half price during daytime. 13 k and they give you a lot of food.

Blue Touch
05-27-19, 00:35
No its not like Laureles. In contrast to Poblado, it is the place the real, not pretending, upper-middle class people live. Good restaurants and decent people, but not for mongering.


Hi Blue Touch, I heard that Evigado is very nice. Can you give us some detail? Is it like Laureles? What it the atmosphere like? Chica places?

Thanks..

Mr Enternational
05-27-19, 00:35
Typically in the bars immediately surrounding Parque LLeras you will also see a lots of Colombian women having drinks with their girlfriends. If your good looking, have game, and are fluent in Spanish you may score.You forgot to add if you can talk and listen over that loud ass music.

The Tall Man
05-27-19, 01:37
I don't know the technical boundaries, but I'd guess Cra 44 and CL 44 and a bit up the hill from there. Cuidado.Thanks, yes I know the area a little as it is just a stone throw away from the calf area, it is on San Juan but up the hill like you mention, I will check it out this week and see what I find. Gawd I am turning into a pervert, hehehe.

The Tall Man.

ColombiaLover
05-27-19, 01:37
While I'm not a huge Lleras fan, I did go there a couple of nights with my chicas to Shupa Shots. Several street walkers seem to congregate around that area. One block from the park. Corner of Calle 10 and Cra. 38. Some look pretty good. But some look a little young. Check cedulas. Others might differ in opinion, but if you are a gringo walking around alone in Lleras, try to avoid talking to girls in the park itself. The cops look down on that and may well stop you and hassle you a bit. Go on the side streets. They (the chicas) will find you.

On a related note, on the way from Lleras to my apartment, our Uber got stopped by a roadside police check. I think this was my third or fourth time being involved in a stop. If you are new and this happens to you, don't panic (unless you have something illegal on you). They really had no interest in me. They asked to see my passport. I pulled out the copy and they did not even bother to look at it. They were much more concerned about checking the driver and the two girls. Cedulas, pat-down for drugs or weapons, and confirming that their cell phones were not stolen property. Ultimately let us go without issue. Just a hassle.


Answer is no to all your questions. There are freelancers around the park later at night (usually after 10 pm). A majority are below average in looks. Because of so much rain at night recently, free are out walking.

RiceRocket99
05-27-19, 04:57
I've stayed at Envigado multiple times before and enjoyed the area and atmosphere. It's definitely less gringo than Poblado, but only about 10 minute cab ride south. It is middle class and has a significant retiree population. It's not a mongering hunting ground, which is why I like it. Great place to stay if you are looking for some non pro action. Stay near Parque Envigado, lots of great restaurants in the Jardines neighborhood and the Bota is Envigado's zona rosa, sorta like mini-Lleras, but without the gringos and the rip off pricing. If you want to go even more local, head a little further south to Sabaneta especially Parque Sabaneta which is a great place to people watch.


Hi Blue Touch, I heard that Evigado is very nice. Can you give us some detail? Is it like Laureles? What it the atmosphere like? Chica places?

Thanks.

PabloSung
05-27-19, 04:58
While I'm not a huge Lleras fan, I did go there a couple of nights with my chicas to Shupa Shots. Several street walkers seem to congregate around that area. One block from the park. Corner of Calle 10 and Cra. 38. Some look pretty good. But some look a little young. Check cedulas. Others might differ in opinion, but if you are a gringo walking around alone in Lleras, try to avoid talking to girls in the park itself. The cops look down on that and may well stop you and hassle you a bit. Go on the side streets. They (the chicas) will find you.

On a related note, on the way from Lleras to my apartment, our Uber got stopped by a roadside police check. I think this was my third or fourth time being involved in a stop. If you are new and this happens to you, don't panic (unless you have something illegal on you). They really had no interest in me. They asked to see my passport. I pulled out the copy and they did not even bother to look at it. They were much more concerned about checking the driver and the two girls. Cedulas, pat-down for drugs or weapons, and confirming that their cell phones were not stolen property. Ultimately let us go without issue. Just a hassle.What is the price range there?

Turgid
05-27-19, 07:18
I don't know. I've never seen the point in just getting my feet massaged. Full body massages run from 40-70 k for 1 hour. Anything extra, if offered would be extra charge.You've obviously never been to Thailand. I became a huge fan of footies in Thailand.

BayMonger
05-27-19, 16:14
I would not recommend staying in Laureles for your entire trip. Laureles is very nice, and a lot of the gringos you will see there live there with some tourists staying there as well. I suspect you will get board there after a few days and would recommend you spend some of your time near Parque Lleras. I personally don't like it there, however there are some very nice surrounding barrios such as Provenza which is the next block up the hill from Parque Lleras. A very upscale area with lots of bars and restaurants frequented by young wealthy Colombians and a mixture of gringos who live in the surrounding areas. Additionally there are other barrios you can easily walk to with lots of very good restaurants in the Patio Bonito, Astorga, La Linde and Manilla barrios all within a ten minute radius of Parque Lleras. The cost of food and drink in the restaurants immediately around Parque Lleras will not be significantly more than most of the places in Laureles, however there are some very upscale restaurants in the surrounding areas I mentioned which are expensive. As far as women in Parque Lleras, they will be out later in the evenings walking around the area and if your older with gray hair and seem to be a gringo you may be approached by them.Thank you for this. I will take your advice. And stay closer to Lleras, but in a nearby neighborhood.

Now this begs the question. Do I fly to Bogota for a few days instead? Or save it for the next trip? This is my first time to Colombia. Seasoned monger with decent Spanish skills.

I have 11 nights. Was going to do only Medellín but maybe I sneak away to Bogota for a few days?

The Tall Man
05-27-19, 16:55
I don't know the technical boundaries, but I'd guess Cra 44 and CL 44 and a bit up the hill from there. Cuidado.
Thanks, yes I know the area a little as it is just a stone throw away from the calf area, it is on San Juan but up the hill like you mention, I will check it out this week and see what I find. Gawd I am turning into a pervert, hehehe.

The Tall Man.Combo, about an hour after I responded to this post yesterday evening I figured what the hell go check it out, so 30 minutes later (Sunday night about 9 PM) I drove those blocks around Cr 44 and CL 44 and although this area does have some possibilities the main issue is that this area is filled with residential apartments and houses which is why the "calf area" just 4 blocks away is so much more attractive to the street walkers as it is located in a commercial / industrial area, when the sun goes down and the businesses (ie car mechanic shops and metal fabrication and car dealerships) roll down their metal doors shut the complete area is transformed into a very sketchy area ripe for late night fun.

After I finished my "tour" I headed to the calf area and found my 18 yo cutie that spent the night with me last week, she was more than ready and willing to hope in my car. She was looking so cute wearing those short cut-off jeans and ambercrombie and fitch halter top so I scoped her up and off to the love motel 8 minutes away.

The Tall Man.

Combo
05-27-19, 23:08
Combo, about an hour after I responded to this post yesterday evening I figured what the hell go check it out, so 30 minutes later (Sunday night about 9 PM) I drove those blocks around Cr 44 and CL 44 and although this area does have some possibilities the main issue is that this area is filled with residential apartments and houses which is why the "calf area" just 4 blocks away is so much more attractive to the street walkers as it is located in a commercial / industrial area, when the sun goes down and the businesses (ie car mechanic shops and metal fabrication and car dealerships) roll down their metal doors shut the complete area is transformed into a very sketchy area ripe for late night fun.

After I finished my "tour" I headed to the calf area and found my 18 yo cutie that spent the night with me last week, she was more than ready and willing to hope in my car. She was looking so cute wearing those short cut-off jeans and ambercrombie and fitch halter top so I scoped her up and off to the love motel 8 minutes away.

The Tall Man.Nice. I will have to check out your area next visit. Although, I don't have the luxury of having my own car in MDE. I've had a taxi driver take me around some areas, including Niquitao, late at night with some luck. Also a bit closer to San Diego and some areas around Centro. I'm generally more up-market (I actually like Poblado as well as Laureles), but sometimes it's a thrill to check out the creepier areas! With patience, it can be rewarding.

DannyBoy99
05-28-19, 01:31
Hey guys,

I'll be in Medellin this week. I got a good sense of pretty much everything from this thread. From pricing, to casas, to dance clubs, gentlemen clubs, everything. I will say that while pricing seems to be a debate, most girls on photo prepagos are asking much more than what some of you have indicated. This is where I want to ask for some last minute advice. I will be staying in Parque Lleras. So I want to go out and find the girls, maybe work it out then. Where would you recommend to check out or walk around (restaurant nearby so I can google) so I can have some good luck. Also I will be trying to catch the warriors vs raptors game this Thursday so if anyone has any place to checkout for the game I would really appreciate. I will be going to Cartagena and will be there for games 2 and 3.

Thanks to all of the brethren who have helped us rookies with all the questions and I look forward to sharing my insight when I come back.

YippieKayay
05-28-19, 03:09
I'll be in Medellin this week. I got a good sense of pretty much everything from this thread. From pricing, to casas, to dance clubs, gentlemen clubs, everything. I will say that while pricing seems to be a debate, most girls on photo prepagos are asking much more than what some of you have indicated.Because they smell fresh fish.



This is where I want to ask for some last minute advice. I will be staying in Parque Lleras.A lot of tourists stay in Parque Lleras. Expect to pay tourist prices. Centro (downtown) is more real but also more dangerous. Medellin is mostly a casa scene. Use the casa map but keep in mind some of the casas are just filthy.

IamLookin
05-28-19, 03:31
I have been going to Medellin now just about every 2 months for a week or so. I don't frequent Parque Lleras but I go even less to El Centro if at all. I rely on my facebook connections which works fine with me.


Because they smell fresh fish.

A lot of tourists stay in Parque Lleras. Expect to pay tourist prices. Centro (downtown) is more real but also more dangerous. Medellin is mostly a casa scene. Use the casa map but keep in mind some of the casas are just filthy.

KilledSoul
05-28-19, 03:51
Hey guys,

I'll be in Medellin this week. I got a good sense of pretty much everything from this thread. From pricing, to casas, to dance clubs, gentlemen clubs, everything. I will say that while pricing seems to be a debate, most girls on photo prepagos are asking much more than what some of you have indicated. How much are they asking. 150 k to 200 k not including taxi is the standard rate for a WG coming to your hotel room.

GeneHickman
05-28-19, 04:15
Hey guys,

I'll be in Medellin this week. I got a good sense of pretty much everything from this thread. From pricing, to casas, to dance clubs, gentlemen clubs, everything. I will say that while pricing seems to be a debate, most girls on photo prepagos are asking much more than what some of you have indicated. This is where I want to ask for some last minute advice. I will be staying in Parque Lleras. So I want to go out and find the girls, maybe work it out then. Where would you recommend to check out or walk around (restaurant nearby so I can google) so I can have some good luck. Also I will be trying to catch the warriors vs raptors game this Thursday so if anyone has any place to checkout for the game I would really appreciate. I will be going to Cartagena and will be there for games 2 and 3.

Thanks to all of the brethren who have helped us rookies with all the questions and I look forward to sharing my insight when I come back.

Photoprepagos listing are mostly agency and they will inevitably have their cut. So if you see 220 k, I doubt the girl is getting more than 150 k of that. I have not used the agencies but perhaps people with that experience can weigh in on it. It may not be a bad way to meet the talent however. As to Parque Lleras, forget it, you are not finding action there for less than 250-300 K in my assessment and it won't necessarily be top shelf either. If you want to go to the rip off club up the elevator and pay silly money then you can.

If you have not done the work of building up your FB contacts, it can still be done within a week, but otherwise the upper end casas or fase dos are your best bet. Fase dos will nearly always have a few good ones. Downtown casas can't be beat price wise but rooms are dirty and safety can be an issue occasionally. For me the tradeoffs are not worth it. If you go my best advise is to stay where people are, fewer people and more isolated a street, the more danger you are in as a gringo. So when people say downtown is dangerous, that is a blanket statement. I don't often see solid safety recommendations.
I know it has been said before but if you got no language, no game, no looks etc. Your best bet is probably the mansion where things are served up buffet style. But there is day to day variation. Local guides can also be good sources but they will have their cut, even so, it could be a way to build your contact book. Safety is an issue there, but with good common sense precautions mentioned all over this board, you can mitigate the risk.

In general Medellin and Colombia works out better for the frequent visitors and those living there compared to the one and done visitor. Heck I think most of the guys who have been going for years, probably have no reason to be reading on this board. Their contacts are so good and deep that they need not go far beyond them. Very few of them share however.

Mr Enternational
05-28-19, 04:52
How much are they asking. 150 k to 200 k not including taxi is the standard rate for a WG coming to your hotel room.And this standard rate is according to what or whom?

YippieKayay
05-28-19, 04:57
And this standard rate is according to what or whom?He's talking about the average prepago in Medellin. Not rates downtown.

Mr Enternational
05-28-19, 05:10
He's talking about the average prepago in Medellin. Not rates downtown.I am not talking about downtown either. In 2 seconds I randomly pulled one up for 110,000 and some for 130,000. Shit, I even see a 75,000! I did notice many for 150,000 though. But of the ones that have prices listed I saw no 200,000s. And again, these rates can always be negotiated when you are ready to do business. So I am just wondering how he came up with declaring those figures he named as standard.

KilledSoul
05-28-19, 07:24
And this standard rate is according to what or whom?Instead of WG from photoprepagos, I should have said FB chicas. I am talking to 50 FB chicas on my messenger. Out of these 50 most of them are ok with for 150 k+taxi. Very few ask 200 k+taxi. Maybe my opening should be 100 k+taxi seeing that most of them are accepting my 150 k offer but I didn't bother.

Mr Enternational
05-28-19, 07:46
Instead of WG from photoprepagos, I should have said FB chicas. I am talking to 50 FB chicas on my messenger.Cool. Whenever someone posts a chick's fb and I click on it, I see that we have at least 5 male friends in common. Why is everyone running around fucking the same few fb chicks when there are tons of women from other sites to be had for even cheaper? I don't get what makes fb so special.

Same thing in a couple of groups I am in. Guys post about the same 7 chicks that are in the corner of just 1 of the clubs when there are 100 clubs and tens of thousands of hookers around here in Pattaya.

JjBee62
05-28-19, 13:08
Cool. Whenever someone posts a chick's fb and I click on it, I see that we have at least 5 male friends in common. Why is everyone running around fucking the same few fb chicks when there are tons of women from other sites to be had for even cheaper? I don't get what makes fb so special.

Same thing in a couple of groups I am in. Guys post about the same 7 chicks that are in the corner of just 1 of the clubs when there are 100 clubs and tens of thousands of hookers around here in Pattaya.Because many guys believe they are improving their chance of a good time if they follow the same path everyone else is on. It's why the Mansion is never hurting for customers. It's why, whenever someone mentions one of the local pimps, 50 guys want contact info. It's why any girl who gets a good review generates a new thread of people wanting to see her.

What makes FB so special depends on the person. Others prefer to find girls off the street, in the clubs or at regular bars and restaurants. Are any of those methods more special than FB?

For me, there's a few reasons. First, it's 1 stop shopping. If I want someone now (meaning I'm ready to wait 2-3 hours beginning now), I can open messenger, see who is online, select one that interests me and 5 minutes later she's on her way, at least she'll claim to be on the way. To get the same selection, I would need to hit at least 5 different strip clubs, or 12 different casas.

FB also gives me more information about the girls. It's easy to get a more detailed view of the person. Is she a party animal? Does she have a gringo sugar daddy? Is she in a relationship? How many kids? Is she really a student, or does she really have a day job?

Maybe the best thing about FB is it connects you to the entire web of interrelated contacts. At any time I can go to FB and within 15 minutes I can find at least 50 new possible girls. I can find friends, cousins, sisters and even mothers of the girls. It takes some time to get a good list built up, but once it's built, it snowballs.

It might cost a little more, but not much more. Get a street girl and spend 30-40 k for 20 minutes. Go to a casa and spend 50 k for 30 minutes plus 20 k for round trip taxi. Get a FB girl and spend 150-200 k for 2 hours, plus 20 k for taxi.

RyanArmenia
05-28-19, 15:33
Hello from Armenia,

Armenia is a must see for beautiful women gorgeous scenery exceptional weather.

Hotel 35 pesos a night. 12 USA.

Weed really cheap.

Let me know when your coming I can assist with everything here including chicas hotels pickup at airport in Willey jeep. Contact me for photos of Armenia.

Trojan22
05-28-19, 19:55
I am not talking about downtown either. In 2 seconds I randomly pulled one up for 110,000 and some for 130,000. Shit, I even see a 75,000! I did notice many for 150,000 though. But of the ones that have prices listed I saw no 200,000s. And again, these rates can always be negotiated when you are ready to do business. So I am just wondering how he came up with declaring those figures he named as standard.You realize 150,000 is for when these girls want you to come to them right? Anytime you tell them that you want theme to come to you, they immediately ask for a minimum of 75 k-100 k additional just for that.

And then if someone wants things like oral natural and Greek etc that could run up another additional 50-100 k.

So in total you are looking at a minimum of 250-300 k to start unless you are willing to travel to her (and who the hell wants to do that in a foreign country with a prepago) and want nothing extra besides the basic CBJ and CFS and that's it which then would be those low prices that you saw.

GeneHickman
05-28-19, 20:43
Hello from Armenia,

Armenia is a must see for beautiful women gorgeous scenery exceptional weather.

Hotel 35 pesos a night. 12 USA.

Weed really cheap.

Let me know when your coming I can assist with everything here including chicas hotels pickup at airport in Willey jeep. Contact me for photos of Armenia.How do we contact you? What else is there to do during the day in Armenia?

Mr Enternational
05-29-19, 00:55
Maybe the best thing about FB is it connects you to the entire web of interrelated contacts. At any time I can go to FB and within 15 minutes I can find at least 50 new possible girls. I can find friends, cousins, sisters and even mothers of the girls. It takes some time to get a good list built up, but once it's built, it snowballs.

It might cost a little more, but not much more. Get a street girl and spend 30-40 k for 20 minutes. Go to a casa and spend 50 k for 30 minutes plus 20 k for round trip taxi. Get a FB girl and spend 150-200 k for 2 hours, plus 20 k for taxi.Yes, but compare the fb thing to the other sex websites that you can choose chicks from. You don't have to search for anything and you don't need any new "possible" girls because you already know what all of them are there for.

Mike963
05-29-19, 01:32
Hello mates,

I will be in Medellin from 31st to 3rd, and would like to know if ibis, is girl friendly?

Have any one stayed there.

Knowledge
05-29-19, 02:37
I hope this helps put things in perspective. One of the better looking girls I know from the Centro casas told me she also works the Gringo Inn where she can get 200 k to 300 k. What does it all mean? It means the extra dough is for convenience and the accommodations. It's not about the girl. As someone mentioned, guys who visit regularly have contacts. It doesn't take long to build contacts unless we limit ourselves to online girls and the Gringo Inn.


Instead of WG from photoprepagos, I should have said FB chicas. I am talking to 50 FB chicas on my messenger. Out of these 50 most of them are ok with for 150 k+taxi. Very few ask 200 k+taxi. Maybe my opening should be 100 k+taxi seeing that most of them are accepting my 150 k offer but I didn't bother.

The Tall Man
05-29-19, 02:40
Photoprepagos listing are mostly agency and they will inevitably have their cut. So if you see 220 k, I doubt the girl is getting more than 150 k of that. I have not used the agencies but perhaps people with that experience can weigh in on it. It may not be a bad way to meet the talent however. As to Parque Lleras, forget it, you are not finding action there for less than 250-300 K in my assessment and it won't necessarily be top shelf either. If you want to go to the rip off club up the elevator and pay silly money then you can.

If you have not done the work of building up your FB contacts, it can still be done within a week, but otherwise the upper end casas or fase dos are your best bet. Fase dos will nearly always have a few good ones. Downtown casas can't be beat price wise but rooms are dirty and safety can be an issue occasionally. For me the tradeoffs are not worth it. If you go my best advise is to stay where people are, fewer people and more isolated a street, the more danger you are in as a gringo. So when people say downtown is dangerous, that is a blanket statement. I don't often see solid safety recommendations..So true that there is nothing like living here in Medellin and over some time you gradually develop regulars, I have 3 or 4 sweethearts that are my ATF's at the moment anyway, hehehe.

Sometimes these girls, usually non-pros or the girl next door type who I meet through a friend (loving this type) and they at some point or another have an emergency and need some quick pesos, guess who they call? They call Daddy the pervert! Like today, I have not heard from this 19 yo in a year, literally a year and a few months, and BAMM she lights up my whatsapp this morning, she needed some help so being the helpful pervert told her to come over, ah what a cute sweetheart, here on my bed, not a blemish on her body, perfect body and titties, um-um, white porcelain skin, cute smile, all natural, dresses like she is modeling for ambercrombi and fitch, got to love Medellin.

But this takes time and patience and effort but the rewards are enormous.

The Tall Man.

JjBee62
05-29-19, 03:22
Yes, but compare the fb thing to the other sex websites that you can choose chicks from. You don't have to search for anything and you don't need any new "possible" girls because you already know what all of them are there for.The key phrase there is "you don't know."

How often have guys complained about girls from mileroticos or Photoprepagos not being the same as the pictures? How many are using pics from 3 years and 2 kids ago? On those sites you're getting the minimum info. You don't know how many kids she has. You don't know how long she's been in the business. You don't know if she looks anything like her pictures.

With FB, I know how many kids, approximate ages, what her friends look like, what type of music, food and drink she likes, whether or not she uses drugs and which ones, and so much more. To me, that helps, because I expect and almost always get a different type of encounter from FB. There isn't any clock to worry about. There is almost never an issue with BBBJ and never an upcharge. There's time to talk about whatever. From FB, I already know areas that will get a good reaction. Pets, kids, music, clubs. No issue with trying to find a subject she has an opinion on.

With the "possible" girls, they just get added. Except for a few that I keep connected with, even the hardest putas are "possibles. " I don't mess with any of them until I'm ready to make a buying decision. Then it takes 5 minutes to figure out if they're interested and how much it'll cost.

With the other websites, I would just as soon go to a casa. I can visit 4 casas in 30 minutes, see from 20 to 40 girls, get an impression of each one and make a choice. It's cheaper, I am better able to make an informed decision and I've got a wide variety to choose from. No talking, no relaxing, get busy and get out.

All the above is just my opinion. FB works best for me, based on my expectations and comfort zone.

SallySally
05-29-19, 03:35
So true that there is nothing like living here in Medellin and over some time you gradually develop regulars, I have 3 or 4 sweethearts that are my ATF's at the moment anyway, hehehe.

Sometimes these girls, usually non-pros or the girl next door type who I meet through a friend (loving this type) and they at some point or another have an emergency and need some quick pesos, guess who they call? They call Daddy the pervert! Like today, I have not heard from this 19 yo in a year, literally a year and a few months, and BAMM she lights up my whatsapp this morning, she needed some help so being the helpful pervert told her to come over, ah what a cute sweetheart, here on my bed, not a blemish on her body, perfect teenie body and titties, um-um, white porcelain skin, cute smile, all natural, dresses like she is modeling for ambercrombi and fitch, got to love Medellin.

But this takes time and patience and effort but the rewards are enormous.

The Tall Man.Tall Man, do you have any tips for meeting these types of girls? Where can we find them, or how can we have other locals present us to them?

Orgasmico
05-29-19, 06:10
So true that there is nothing like living here in Medellin I thought you wrote that you don't have a cedula. How do you manage to live in Medellin without one? What kind of visa allows one to live in Medellin without a cedula?

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Surfer500
05-29-19, 15:52
I thought you wrote that you don't have a cedula. How do you manage to live in Medellin without one? What kind of visa allows one to live in Medellin without a cedula?You can live in Colombia for up to six months a year without a Cedula, either by exiting the Country after being issued a 90 day tourist visa and returning again or having it extended.

To obtain a Cedula there are many ways to do so such as obtaining a visa as a student, a retiree, or an investor. Basically, without a Cedula in Colombia you cannot open a bank account, obtain EPM (electrical / water / gas) service if your renting an unfurnished apartment, obtain Internet (CLARO, etc.). The Colombian Cedula is basically the equivalent in the USA of an Identification / Social Security Card which is utilized for everything. As an example, when buying groceries or a bus ticket when someone gives them their Cedula number, their name will automatically pop up in the "system". You can also travel domestically by air with only a Cedula in Colombia just like in the US with just a drivers license.

Knowledge
05-29-19, 18:18
It can be complicated. A foreigner can be in Colombia on various kinds of tourist / visitor / student visas for up to 6 months without being a so-called "tax resident" who has to pay Colombian taxes, sometimes in addition to tax liabilities in a home country. A cedula is not the same thing as a visa. There are many websites dedicated to this subject. Going back on topic, in Colombia and everywhere else I've spent time, there are more opportunities available to longer term visitors than there are to shorter term visitors.


I thought you wrote that you don't have a cedula. How do you manage to live in Medellin without one? What kind of visa allows one to live in Medellin without a cedula?

The Tall Man
05-29-19, 18:34
I thought you wrote that you don't have a cedula. How do you manage to live in Medellin without one? What kind of visa allows one to live in Medellin without a cedula?Correct no cedula yet, another year so spending most of each year here. I can hardly imagine what it will be like when I am here full time.

The Tall Man.

KilledSoul
05-29-19, 19:43
FB also gives me more information about the girls. It's easy to get a more detailed view of the person. Is she a party animal? Does she have a gringo sugar daddy? Is she in a relationship? How many kids? Is she really a student, or does she really have a day job?
True. Its interesting to see your hookers life story and her daily life before calling her.


I can find friends, cousins, sisters and even mothers of the girls. It takes some time to get a good list built up, but once it's built, it snowballs.
Are the cousins also open of business if they don't have many Gringos in their friendlist? Or you have to first fuck the girl and then ask her if she has any cousins who would be open for such an arrangement?

DannyBoy99
05-29-19, 21:55
So I'm sitting inside of Loutron Spa at the end of my visit writing this.

First off drinks are 10 k. They charge 300 k for one hour for one time. I should have talked to the chick to make sure there was no surprise charge like kissing. I chose Daniela, she was hot it's just it wasn't the best experience. No massage, felt rushed, and honestly I won't be coming back to this place. Not worth the money. I'll see new life tomorrow, but first Fase Dos or La Isla tonight. I'm also planning to walk around I feel like I will get a lot better rates and service by finding someone.

Surfer500
05-30-19, 02:24
It can be complicated. A foreigner can be in Colombia on various kinds of tourist / visitor / student visas for up to 6 months without being a so-called "tax resident" who has to pay Colombian taxes, sometimes in addition to tax liabilities in a home country. A cedula is not the same thing as a visa. There are many websites dedicated to this subject. Going back on topic, in Colombia and everywhere else I've spent time, there are more opportunities available to longer term visitors than there are to shorter term visitors.Yes it is complicated and confusing. As I mentioned in my previous post a Cedula is basically necessary in Colombia if you plan on living there, and you cannot obtain a Cedula without first obtaining a visa. In regards to taxes, if you are a tax resident (foreigner with a visa residing in the country for more than six months during a year and its a complicated formula) it is computed based on either your world wide wealth or the what you paid in USA taxes compared to what the Colombian taxes would be. Anyone considering living in Colombia more than six months a year should consult with a Colombian account to help them determine what their situation might be. For someone with no wealth (income properties, stocks, cash accounts) except 401 K's and social security income those individuals would probably have no taxes to pay as DIAN the Colombian IRS does not include this as part of the wealth calculation Again a Colombian accountant would need to be retained to make this determination for someone contemplating living here over six months a year.

Travis McGee
05-30-19, 03:41
Some guy calling himself Julian. I groaned inwardly when his profile pic popped up on Whatsapp because he looks exactly like what you think a stereotypical hustler in Colombia would look like.I was just messaged by a provider in Medellin who said that if I wanted "drugs and girls" I should call Julian. And she gave me his What'sApp #. She assured me it was for her security and mine. Yeah, right. I can't stand pimps. And I'm sure as hell not going to put myself in a position of being set up.

Starlord1
05-30-19, 04:22
So guys I will be there staying in Engery building for two nights. Wanted to go out and partying with the locals. It will be a Tuesday and Wednesday. Wanted to stay away from the other gringos. My guide mentioned La 70 . I didn't know it's a big strip of clubs. But most look like lounges. Was also thinking about inviting some girls along as well. Can someone give me a good place to go. Appreciate it.

Orgasmico
05-30-19, 11:37
You can live in Colombia for up to six months a year without a Cedula, either by exiting the Country after being issued a 90 day tourist visa and returning again or having it extended.
Ah OK a tourist.

Orgasmico
05-30-19, 11:41
Correct no cedula yet, another year so spending most of each year here.How can one spend most of the year here with a tourist visa? I thought tourist visas were limited to 6 months?

Orgasmico
05-30-19, 11:51
Guys be careful in taxis here. Also a friend had a knife pulled on him in the tranny / crackhead Veracruz area late at night.

JjBee62
05-30-19, 11:56
Correct no cedula yet, another year so spending most of each year here. I can hardly imagine what it will be like when I am here full time.

The Tall Man.I'm not sure of your exact situation, but it's possible you're going to have an issue. If you're spending most of the year in Colombia (more than the 180 days allowed per calendar year without a visa), some type of visa is required. Once the visa is granted you have 15 days from the date of the visa being granted (or 15 days from your next entry to Colombia, if you received the visa from a Colombian Consulate) to apply for a Cedula Extranjera, which is good for the duration of the visa. You can get the Cedula from any Immigration office. Can't remember the cost, but it was an easy process. You will need to visit a clinic first to get a blood type certificate. Once the application is complete, return in about 10 days to pick up the card.

If you're staying beyond 180 days without a visa you can be charged a fine for every day beyond 180 and can also be blocked from returning. If you're staying on a visa without a Cedula, you can have your visa revoked and be blocked from returning.

Blue Touch
05-30-19, 14:37
Guys be careful in taxis here. Also a friend had a knife pulled on him in the tranny / crackhead Veracruz area late at night.Yesterday I was thinking that the are had a bad vibe. The condition of Botero / Veracruz has improved in the last 5 years. But I felt anger, violence, and despair over there. Most of my girls have left the area. I am going back to Bogota ASAP.

Jayson01
05-30-19, 14:57
I say some airbnbs apartments say "no sex tourism" in the rule sex section. Is this really enforced or does it mean bribing time ?


Also I was at this apartment rent office by Park lleras in Medellin and got a business card saying "apartmentinternationl dot com" when I looked up the site it brought to me lifeafar site which I was not expecting. Apparently they are the same thing? The guy at the office told me they door has no security, so you have full responsibility. Obviously having a security has pro and cons more safety but possibly more restrictions also. The place is in the la 70 area.

Has anyone stayed with lifeafar, how are their policies regarding chicas and security at the door? And standard of the apartment or should I just go for Airbnb?

DannyBoy99
05-30-19, 16:20
So after my shitty time at Loutron I had an amazing time. My cab driver was awesome and took me all around Medellin, took me to get some party favors, showed me Parque Lleras by car, and connected me with 90 chicks. 1 was my type. After my awesome cab ride my driver connects me with that shit. I'll be meeting with her tonight. Last night after such I went back to my airbnb, they want to make sure no [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) prostitution by the way. So I head out to dominos right in front of my apartment and then head to the supermarket get some light snacks and grub. That night I went to Fase dos, this place looked fun but honestly waste of money. There is definitely talent there, but imagine cover I think 10 k, 20 k a beer, every time girls get off stage they go around and you tip them (mostly they dance in trio) and then private dance in the club AKA VIP is 300 k for an hour, or go next door for 45 minutes in hotel for 190 k. I passed on both as I didn't want another short rushed session. It's been raining here since I got in so I left Fase dos, went to Parque Lleras and checked around. Not much, so I went to Gusto. If you want to find prepago chicks, this is your club. I hung out for a bit saw maybe one chick that was a solid 10, but for a Wednesday I didn't expect much. Eventually met this Venezuelan and we hooked up for the night. Going to catch up on a little bit of sleep, relax. Tonight I got a date with that other chick and going to catch the warriors game.

Zhagolo52
05-30-19, 19:04
It is not enforced. I spend 7 days in the top floor apartment off calle 10 in March and it was never an issue


I say some airbnbs apartments say "no sex tourism" in the rule sex section. Is this really enforced or does it mean bribing time ?


Also I was at this apartment rent office by Park lleras in Medellin and got a business card saying "apartmentinternationl dot com" when I looked up the site it brought to me lifeafar site which I was not expecting. Apparently they are the same thing? The guy at the office told me they door has no security, so you have full responsibility. Obviously having a security has pro and cons more safety but possibly more restrictions also. The place is in the la 70 area.

Has anyone stayed with lifeafar, how are their policies regarding chicas and security at the door? And standard of the apartment or should I just go for Airbnb?.

Zhagolo52
05-30-19, 19:07
Loutron is the worse. Its expensive in relation to other places. They may have better looking lady but I have never heard or seen any of them give outstanding or even great service. Usually very mechanical.


So I'm sitting inside of Loutron Spa at the end of my visit writing this.

First off drinks are 10 k. They charge 300 k for one hour for one time. I should have talked to the chick to make sure there was no surprise charge like kissing. I chose Daniela, she was hot it's just it wasn't the best experience. No massage, felt rushed, and honestly I won't be coming back to this place. Not worth the money. I'll see new life tomorrow, but first Fase Dos or La Isla tonight. I'm also planning to walk around I feel like I will get a lot better rates and service by finding someone.

Manizales911
05-30-19, 20:53
How can one spend most of the year here with a tourist visa? I thought tourist visas were limited to 6 months?I was wondering the same thing just out of curiosity as I have permanent residency and a cedula.

Jayson01
05-30-19, 21:24
It is not enforced. I spend 7 days in the top floor apartment off calle 10 in March and it was never an issue

.I really do hope it is not enforced, because we all know if it wasn't for the chicas most of these one bedroom Airbnbs would be empty. Actually is the first Airbnb in Medellin that I see with that "no sex tourist" label and I'm running out of the time so I might just take the chance and see.

Sho423
05-30-19, 21:32
I say some airbnbs apartments say "no sex tourism" in the rule sex section. Is this really enforced or does it mean bribing time ?


Also I was at this apartment rent office by Park lleras in Medellin and got a business card saying "apartmentinternationl dot com" when I looked up the site it brought to me lifeafar site which I was not expecting. Apparently they are the same thing? The guy at the office told me they door has no security, so you have full responsibility. Obviously having a security has pro and cons more safety but possibly more restrictions also. The place is in the la 70 area.

Has anyone stayed with lifeafar, how are their policies regarding chicas and security at the door? And standard of the apartment or should I just go for Airbnb?I like staying at lifeafar places, most of them have no security so you need to watch out who you bring back. Yeah theirs a sign that says no sex tourism which I have broken plenty of times ahahaha. A lot of the apartments on lifeafar are on Airbnb, and I prefer to book with lifeafar instead because they don't charge you booking fees and you can ask them to give you a deal and they'll give you like 10 percent off. I like staying in the Poblado suites (Tokyo, Paris, New York, dunes). It's right next to parque poblado and has a store and food places all around.

SethMacfarlane
05-31-19, 01:03
I say some airbnbs apartments say "no sex tourism" in the rule sex section. Is this really enforced or does it mean bribing time ?


Also I was at this apartment rent office by Park lleras in Medellin and got a business card saying "apartmentinternationl dot com" when I looked up the site it brought to me lifeafar site which I was not expecting. Apparently they are the same thing? The guy at the office told me they door has no security, so you have full responsibility. Obviously having a security has pro and cons more safety but possibly more restrictions also. The place is in the la 70 area.

Has anyone stayed with lifeafar, how are their policies regarding chicas and security at the door? And standard of the apartment or should I just go for Airbnb?I've stayed in a lifeafar place in chapinero and never had an issue bringing a lady back. If you have never stayed in Colombia before, check out their YouTube channel: Sam. LifeAFAR. Tons of good information about Colombia in general.

JjBee62
05-31-19, 01:23
I really do hope it is not enforced, because we all know if it wasn't for the chicas most of these one bedroom Airbnbs would be empty. Actually is the first Airbnb in Medellin that I see with that "no sex tourist" label and I'm running out of the time so I might just take the chance and see.Lifeafar used to be First American Investment Realty. As far as I know all their apartments are chica friendly. They have a fairly wide price range.

JjBee62
05-31-19, 02:19
True. Its interesting to see your hookers life story and her daily life before calling her.

Are the cousins also open of business if they don't have many Gringos in their friendlist? Or you have to first fuck the girl and then ask her if she has any cousins who would be open for such an arrangement?Why would having gringos in her friend list matter? Colombians fuck too.

If the girl already has a bunch of gringo friends I'm probably either on her list, or I have a reason to not send her a request. When I'm adding girls, I just find the ones that interest me and send a request. Often I'm 5 or 6 layers deep, when I add someone.

It works like this:

Someone on my friend list tags someone in a photo. I like her look, so I check her profile. Then I check her friend list, find someone else and pop to her profile, repeat 3 or 4 times. That one tagged friend will likely generate 20 or more girls I'm interested in. I'll see which friends we have in common, and if I think they would be interested, I'll click.

I don't have to look for gringos anymore. It's rare to find a profile that doesn't have several friends who have friends in common with me. If I see a Colombian with 15 mutual friends, then I'm probably on the right track.

Surfer500
05-31-19, 14:52
How can one spend most of the year here with a tourist visa? I thought tourist visas were limited to 6 months?Up until earlier this month DIAN the IRS of Colombia and Migracion of Colombia did not exchange information between themselves. This month they signed a formal agreement to exchange information between the agencies to catch those not paying taxes and other things. So what I believe has happened in the past is people show up and are given a 90 day visa to stay. Then they stay a few months, leave for a while, come back and get another 90 day stay, then leave and return and before you know it have exceeded the 180 day tourist rule and perhaps immigration isn't catching it, noticing it, or tracking it somehow. This apparently will change and I would not want to be in the position of either arriving or departing Colombia and having immigration walk me over to the DIAN (Colombian IRS) office located at the Airport.

Orgasmico
05-31-19, 19:23
So what I believe ... I personally know people that have had to pay penalties for violating the tourist visa due to missed flights, etc. and one that was actually not allowed back into the country for a year.

Magaman
05-31-19, 23:09
Lifeafar used to be First American Investment Realty. Was there any dubious reason for their name change? I'm pondering their Packaged Real Estate Projects.

Surfer500
06-01-19, 00:57
I personally know people that have had to pay penalties for violating the tourist visa due to missed flights, etc. and one that was actually not allowed back into the country for a year.This should be a wake up call for any members of this board that spend a lot of time in Colombia and don't have the proper visa to do so.

Surfer500
06-01-19, 02:26
Thank you for this. I will take your advice. And stay closer to Lleras, but in a nearby neighborhood.

Now this begs the question. Do I fly to Bogota for a few days instead? Or save it for the next trip? This is my first time to Colombia. Seasoned monger with decent Spanish skills.

I have 11 nights. Was going to do only Medelln but maybe I sneak away to Bogota for a few days?Bogota for me sucks but should be visited at least once and I suggest you go there first because if you go after Medellin you will be disappointed. Don't stay for more than a few days.

SandStorm20
06-01-19, 04:47
Anyone would like to get a beer in centro strip clubs, PM me.

SS.

KilledSoul
06-01-19, 04:58
Why would having gringos in her friend list matter? Because they are the ones who almost always accepts your friend request. Girls without gringo friends on FB, usually do not accept my friend request. Has someone tried just sending message to a girl without sending a friend request? Are normal chicas more responsive that way.



It works like this:

Someone on my friend list tags someone in a photo. I like her look, so I check her profile. Then I check her friend list, find someone else and pop to her profile, repeat 3 or 4 times. That one tagged friend will likely generate 20 or more girls I'm interested in. I'll see which friends we have in common, and if I think they would be interested, I'll click.



if I think they would be interested, I'll click.How do you determine they will be interested?



I don't have to look for gringos anymore. It's rare to find a profile that doesn't have several friends who have friends in common with me. If I see a Colombian with 15 mutual friends, then I'm probably on the right track.



It's rare to find a profile that doesn't have several friends who have friends in common with me.

You are way ahead in the FB game than me. I will keep this in mind if one day I make your kind of FB network.

On a side note, I have observed which others also have mentioned in this forum, the inbox gets flooded once you reach Medellin and start posting pics of the city.

BlueBudgie
06-01-19, 05:18
If anyone is willing to share facebook links to mine, I would greatly appreciate it.

Here are some of mine that I've pieced together.

https://www.facebook.com/maryrestrepo08?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab

https://www.facebook.com/valentina.londonochica.1/photos?lst=100036416254363%3A100004649858389%3A1559362694

https://www.facebook.com/angelica.pineda.750546/photos?lst=100036416254363%3A100006402371498%3A1559362722

https://www.facebook.com/Viviana.lopera11?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab

KilledSoul
06-01-19, 05:38
First, thanks to all the seniors who take their time and explain really trivial basics to us mongers sitting on their laptops at another corner of the world. Your patience is really really appreciated.

Taxi for airport: Arranged it through the manager of the Airbnb place I was staying in. Cost 77 k COP.

Local Sim: Exito sim. 30 K COP for 2 GB data. This worked good enough in El poblado but didn't work well when I was in strip clubs of Santa Fe, Bogota.

Local Taxi: EasyTaxi app. I didn't hook up my credit card to the app, paid in cash. Taxi guys in Medellin do not believe in algorithms of Google Maps, most them give zero fucks about the suggested routes of the app.

Food delivery: Rappi. Again my credit card didn't work so paid in cash.

Currency: Like Mr. E and others have repeatedly and painfully have said, don't bring your USD. You will get ripoff exchange rates. In my opinion ATM is the best option. And if you are American then get a Charles Schwab account.

Accommodation 1: Having read many posts of Scopolamine drugging on FB pages and here, I decided to rent a cheap place Airbnb in El poblado where I used to keep all my valuables and do my office work. Costed me around $15/ day. It was comfortable but really basic. Worst part was sharing the bathroom with other Euro begpackers.

Accommodation 2: Blux. This is a chica friendly place. I used this place (only booked intermittently for few days) just for fucking the prepagos. I had none of my valuables in this house. I even kept safety box empty and open just to show there is nothing she will gain by a robbery attempt.

Language: Spanish only. Everyone is a monoglot.

Chicas: I only fucked 3 chicas from FB. Most of them try hard to satisfy you. They also made good of the reputatoin that Colombian women are really gentle and sweet. Most of them were also okay for 2 shots. I paid 150 k plus taxi plus tip. Always 200 k COP as total.

Can anyone suggest intensive language schools in Medellin. I just want to talk to my chicas between the leches. Jajaja.

Mr Enternational
06-01-19, 07:46
Local Sim: Exito sim. 30 K COP for 2 GB data. This worked good enough in El poblado but didn't work well when I was in strip clubs of Santa Fe, Bogota.This says nothing of the SIM. Hard to get a signal in the strip clubs in Santa Fe, Conejitas and BE in Medellin as well.

KilledSoul
06-01-19, 08:07
This says nothing of the SIM. Hard to get a signal in the strip clubs in Santa Fe, Conejitas and BE in Medellin as well.Not just in clubs but on the street where Troya is located, my data and calls were not working. I walked a little bit, went to another part of Santa Fe and got the data to connect again. In another instance inside the Troya, while talking to some other guy and exchanging our contact info my data was not working but his was. Perhaps Woodman09 would be the best guy to comment on situation of cell connectivity in Santa Fe clubs.

Mr Enternational
06-01-19, 09:12
Not just in clubs but on the street where Troya is located, my data and calls were not working. I walked a little bit, went to another part of Santa Fe and got the data to connect again. In another instance inside the Troya, while talking to some other guy and exchanging our contact info my data was not working but his was. Perhaps Woodman09 would be the best guy to comment on situation of cell connectivity in Santa Fe clubs.Happens to me all the time with my T-mobile. I usually have to reboot my phone to get the signal back when leaving out of Troya.

JjBee62
06-01-19, 10:57
Was there any dubious reason for their name change? I'm pondering their Packaged Real Estate Projects.Marketing would be my guess. LifeAfar sounds more exciting than Investment Realty.

JjBee62
06-01-19, 11:45
Because they are the ones who almost always accepts your friend request. Girls without gringo friends on FB, usually do not accept my friend request. Has someone tried just sending message to a girl without sending a friend request? Are normal chicas more responsive that way.The issue is probably with your Facebook. The girls with all the gringo friends just accept anyone, especially a gringo. Most other girls look at the profile. If you're using a profile with no content, other than 2 or 3 pictures, you're not going to get a lot of interest. I'm the same when looking at profiles. A friend request from any account with just 2 or 3 pictures and nothing more gets deleted.

If you send a message to someone not on your friend list it doesn't immediately pop up for them. It goes to another area. It's less likely to be seen.


How do you determine they will be interested?I don't. I determine that I believe they might be interested. No guarantees. They might be interested if they have 1. Lots of pictures of their kids and friends, but no boyfriend pics. 2. Pics of them out partying. 3. Any pics showing a jacuzzi tub. 4. Sexy pics, beyond the normal selfie. 5. Posts that are sexual. There's more, but those are some of the basics.


You are way ahead in the FB game than me. I will keep this in mind if one day I make your kind of FB network.

On a side note, I have observed which others also have mentioned in this forum, the inbox gets flooded once you reach Medellin and start posting pics of the city.Building FB is a numbers game. At first, except for the gringo favorites, you send 20 requests and get 2 friends. Once you get a bunch of friends you start receiving requests. I'm still getting requests accepted that I sent out almost 2 years ago.

JjBee62
06-01-19, 11:48
First, thanks to all the seniors who take their time and explain really trivial basics to us mongers sitting on their laptops at another corner of the world. Your patience is really really appreciated.

Taxi for airport: Arranged it through the manager of the Airbnb place I was staying in. Cost 77 k COP.

Local Sim: Exito sim. 30 K COP for 2 GB data. This worked good enough in El poblado but didn't work well when I was in strip clubs of Santa Fe, Bogota.

Local Taxi: EasyTaxi app. I didn't hook up my credit card to the app, paid in cash. Taxi guys in Medellin do not believe in algorithms of Google Maps, most them give zero fucks about the suggested routes of the app..Good report.

Probably the best language school is at EAFIT. The intensive classes are 4 hours daily for 2 weeks. Excellent instructors and students from all over the world. Also only 4-8 students per class.

IamLookin
06-01-19, 15:06
I basically see only FB girls and most of them do not share their friend contacts. Of the girls that I have which share their friends (mostly gringos) I tend to avoid. FB makes friend suggestions based on your current list of friends. I have been pretty successful with that. I had one FB girl that provides excellent service tell me she does not share her friends because too many girls steal contacts. A lot of these girls do share among each other contact names when they are together. I know because I get contacted by girls that I don't know but I realize later they are friends of girls I had sessioned with. You may not get a response if you don't message them. I usually message them (in spanish) and tell them when I plan to be in Medellin and that I would like to see them. That usually works. Works so well that I have learned not to make too many knew friends because I wind up only seeing maybe 2 out of 5 of them.

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Because they are the ones who almost always accepts your friend request. Girls without gringo friends on FB, usually do not accept my friend request. Has someone tried just sending message to a girl without sending a friend request? Are normal chicas more responsive that way.



How do you determine they will be interested?




You are way ahead in the FB game than me. I will keep this in mind if one day I make your kind of FB network.

On a side note, I have observed which others also have mentioned in this forum, the inbox gets flooded once you reach Medellin and start posting pics of the city..

Travis McGee
06-01-19, 17:30
First, thanks to all the seniors who take their time and explain really trivial basics to us mongers sitting on their laptops at another corner of the world. Your patience is really really appreciated.

Taxi for airport: Arranged it through the manager of the Airbnb place I was staying in. Cost 77 k COP.

Local Sim: Exito sim. 30 K COP for 2 GB data. This worked good enough in El poblado but didn't work well when I was in strip clubs of Santa Fe, Bogota.

Local Taxi: EasyTaxi app. I didn't hook up my credit card to the app, paid in cash. Taxi guys in Medellin do not believe in algorithms of Google Maps, most them give zero fucks about the suggested routes of the app.

Food delivery: Rappi. Again my credit card didn't work so paid in cash.

Currency: Like Mr. E and others have repeatedly and painfully have said, don't bring your USD. You will get ripoff exchange rates. In my opinion ATM is the best option. And if you are American then get a Charles Schwab account..This is an excellent report--exactly the kind of intel I come here to find. Thanks for posting!

IamLookin
06-01-19, 20:17
I agree as well that the report is well written. It was both informative and to the point. He didn't write about how great he is or of his personal sexual conquests. He stuck to what is informative and helpful. Thank you.


This is an excellent report--exactly the kind of intel I come here to find. Thanks for posting!.

Trojan22
06-01-19, 22:23
Quick question, how long do you guys usually go to Medellin for?

Planning my first trip there and I'm debating how many days I should do.

Knowledge
06-01-19, 23:13
My biggest problem by far with the place is the climate. Every year the goes by I tolerate cold weather less. I always look for something positive so I can report that, compared to Medellin, Bogota has more quantity and variety overall.


Bogota for me sucks but should be visited at least once and I suggest you go there first because if you go after Medellin you will be disappointed. Don't stay for more than a few days.

JjBee62
06-02-19, 04:33
Quick question, how long do you guys usually go to Medellin for?

Planning my first trip there and I'm debating how many days I should do.There's too many variables for one easy answer. Some guys can get quick cheap flights and they will come in for 3 or 4 days every few months. Some guys prefer to come for 2-3 weeks a few times a year.

If you travel regularly and are considering Medellin as a place to visit routinely, I'd suggest 10-14 days. If it's a 1 time bucket list trip 5-10 days. If you're considering moving to Medellin, spend at least 3 months.

My reasoning behind the numbers:

If you spend lots of time traveling to mongering destinations already, you need time to get a fair impression. A couple of bad breaks early, could give you a tainted impression. It also gives a better idea about the city, climate, lodging and food.

If you're just wanting a bucket list type of trip, you're going to wear out after a few days. Come in, party hard and go home, before you burn out.

Obviously if you're planning on living full time in Colombia, you'll want to spend as much time as possible before making a decision.

JjBee62
06-02-19, 10:45
This should be a wake up call for any members of this board that spend a lot of time in Colombia and don't have the proper visa to do so.I know of one, a long term resident, who forgot to renew his Visa. He was initially told that he couldn't come back for 5 years. He ended up paying a big fine and got it taken care of, but there were a few days of worry.

SallySally
06-02-19, 12:50
Can anyone suggest intensive language schools in Medellin. I just want to talk to my chicas between the leches. Jajaja.Probably the cheapest would be to go to centro and hire a streetwalker for 100 k / peso a day. That is 8 hrs just tell them no sex and you want to practice spanish all day, a lot of them would do it and would probably find it refreshing. But I guess that depends on your level of spanish, if you are a beginning a lot of the basic grammar and vocab can be learned out of a book but the value of the tutor comes in when you try to use the language and practice speaking and listening. If you can find a venezuelan they might actually speak a more standard spanish than the colombian streetwalkers because they tend to be more educated than colombian hood rats. At $30/8 hrs this is the cheapest language school you can find.