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The Tall Man
07-14-19, 22:25
First let me say, and you can verify from my posts, I am a long time monger in second world countries. Thailand 15 times. Bali, Vietnam, Laos. Lived in Dubai 12 years. For some context I am a white American, 58 years old.

Today was my first trip to Medellin and my first day.

I will surely provide some posts after my visit. I thank the forum for the preparation, I have read many pages of posts.

I need some direction to salvage this trip.

Based on posts here I decided to go the El Centro route as I am not a Prima Dona and I like to save money when I am a monger not throw money in the toilet, and I don't need to hang around tourists.

That said, this is not the same as low end Thailand or Vietnam etc.

I am staying at 47 Hotel Medellin which has a 7. 8 rating on hotel.com. $35 a night, great room pictures on the website.

I get to the hotel and here are the issues. No AC, No room safe, No closet? No dresser? No refrigerator. My feet hang off the end of the bed and I am only 5'8" No real bedsheets just a small thin sheet and blanket which I have never see in my life. I asked for a glass to drink my whisky in and they said go to the restaurant on the roof, which I did and the manager said only for restaurant. Went downstairs, hotel staff came up with me and I watched a 3 minute argument about 'I should not get a $1 dollar? Max glass but finally I got. You get the idea.

Then as discussed here you cannot go out and walk at night. The hotel was very clear. No, no,no, no too dangerous. So I am staying in a hotel where I can only go out in the day unless I go straight to a taxi. I cannot even take my phone out of my pocket without becoming some target? (As many experienced people here have said and as my hotel suggested even during the day)..

On what page did you read someone say to stay at 47 Hotel Medellin? $35 per night is a lot of freakin money for downtown. Most of us pay like $15. Hotel Nutibara and others I have read on here more times than I can count. 47 Hotel? No idea where that even is. LOL. I looked it up. You are like 1km southeast of where you should be. Nah. I would not go outside if I was staying over there either! You need to go back closer to Parque Berrio..Read Mr Ent response a few times as all of your questions are clearly stated. Again it is all about expectations, they say that an expectation is the start of resentments meaning go with little or no expectations.

And don't get frustrated because of a few minor inconveniences (IE no closet or AC in hotel), welcome to Colombia. How much time will you be in Medellin?

The Tall Man.

ColombiaLover
07-14-19, 23:15
I can only imagine what you consider respectable. Something tells me it's not much of a standard.


You had me up until this phrase. Maybe women that make a rule for themselves not to fuck someone on the first date are doing it for the sake of rule making and tricking themselves that they have control of themselves. But it has nothing to do with whether they are respectable or not. I have fucked tons of respectable Colombian women on the first date. People are people and people like affection and fucking.

Plus if I tell everyone I just got a respectable new girl they would probably look at me crazy and say what the fuck does that have to do with anything. Tell me when you get a rich girl or a fine ass girl; but respectable? Uhhh, Okay.

Krypto Knight
07-15-19, 02:50
Read Mr Ent response a few times as all of your questions are clearly stated. Again it is all about expectations, they say that an expectation is the start of resentments meaning go with little or no expectations.

And don't get frustrated because of a few minor inconveniences (IE no closet or AC in hotel), welcome to Colombia. How much time will you be in Medellin?

The Tall Man.Hi Tall Man. I have read and enjoyed your posts.

I am here 10 days.

I also ask you look at Mr Ent posts. He criticized me for paying $35 (Weekend prices) and said he pays $15 a night for hotels and recommended Hotel Nutibara, I see Nutibara online for $31 and up for tomorrow.

I am not trying to create a flame war, but sometimes it feels like the El Centro crew likes to mock those who don't want to stay in a dangerous, grimey area with subpar chicas.

I just think there should be a greater level of honesty and less mocking of people who come here for vacation and don't want to go through the sewer. I complain about the hotel and I am told of course it's not the Marriott. I don't stay at Marriotts, ever, I do budget vacations. I live in Brooklyn and I watched an attempted purse snatching last week from my apartment window that involved an older woman being flung to the ground by a 20 something punk.

If you are in town I will gladly buy you a couple drinks as payback for all your amazing posts!

Cheers. Krypto Knight.

Krypto Knight
07-15-19, 02:57
Hola, quick question. Are the strip clubs and casas in El Centro open on Sunday nights and are there any that are better on Sundays? Gracias.

Blue Touch
07-15-19, 03:21
Thanks for the post. It is a very good report with positive energy. I see your knowledge and maturity in the report. Have fun in Medellin.


From another week in Medellin. For those who are newer, let me give you some basic facts about me so you can decide whether you want to listen to me or not.

Been visiting Medellin for 14+ years, but never lived there.

Married to Colombiana from Bogota for 9 years. Now divorced.

53 YO gringo. Spanish is functional, but not fluent.

Used to stay in Poblado. Now stay in Laureles.

While I often try to tell myself that I'm going to try the casas again, go to Veracruz, or go to Centro strip clubs, I always end up doing the same. I see a mix of regulars and new FB girls and have ventured into the non-pro arena. I could save money by going to casas, but I typically pay FB girls 150 K and taxi one way. Non-pros are not guaranteed sex, but I've had fun with some, even without banging them. My trips are not solely about sex, but enjoying myself.

At any rate, nothing earth-shattering to say about most of my sessions. I don't think any were bad. Some were great. The best one is from a girl who is average looking and skinny. But she's into it. Loves to suck her own tits and squirt the milk out of her mouth back onto her chest. Tried anal for the first time and I was happy to oblige. I don't do it often, but she likes ass play, so I knew she'd like anal after the initial pain subsided.

At any rate, on my last night I had a date with a non-pro. She has a normal job and we never talked about sex or money. We decided to go to a place I like in Aranjuez for some cocktails and shots. She asked me to pick her up (instead of her coming to me), which tells you this was more like a normal date. She lives in Villa Hermosa. So I took off in the taxi. Went through a bunch of barrios I did not know. Some of it was a little scary and I was beginning to wonder if I had made a mistake. One street something big was on fire. Passed by a couple of working girls on the corner. Both of them looked pretty hot. If I didn't have a date, I might have gotten the taxi drive to stop so I could talk to one of them.

Fortunately, when I finally got to her neighborhood in Villa Hermoso, things improved. Her house was on a nice, quiet and clean street in a nice neighborhood. She came out of the house and off we went.

Got to Aranjuez and went in. The place is not big and it was not crowded. There is a new bar right next door and it was rockin'. But I wanted to stay where we were. Good music. Combo of ranchero, villenato, salsa, etc. Good cocktails. And we could talk with some privacy. Had a nice conversation with her, although I had to work hard because she talked fast and her Spanish was not as clear as I have heard. But very sweet girl. As we drank, she loosened up. She was drinking margaritas and ordered some shots in between. She eventually warmed up a lot, much to my enjoyment. Lots of kisses and hugs and authorized touching. Fun sharing a bom-bom-bon (lollipop).

Unfortunately, it turns out that she does not often drink a lot, so toward the end of the night, she threw up. No big deal. We got in the taxi and I was going to take her home, but after about 5 minutes she told the taxitas to instead go to my apartment. We slept together, but did not have sex. Which was fine. I had a good evening. And I know that respectable Colombian women never sleep with a guy on the first date.

The point to all of this is to say that there is a lot of fun to be had in the barrios. I am not suggesting this to newbies or to anyone who knows no Spanish. But it's nice to be somewhere where you are not in the presence of a bunch of loud, drunk gringos. People are nice to me. They do not bother me. I never felt any threat (of course, I get out of the taxi and go into the bar and then leave in a taxi. I do not walk the streets). I always go with a chica, so not trolling the bars alone. It is real Colombia. Not Lleras. Give it a try.

And by the way, the total bill was 103 mil. That included 8 cocktails and 6 shots. And the waitress was hot. Good times.

Krypto Knight
07-15-19, 03:31
By the way, do they mind if you whip out a video camera in the strip clubs and film the action. Vacation memories kind of thing?

*Joking.

Mr Enternational
07-15-19, 03:50
I also ask you look at Mr Ent posts. He criticized me for paying $35 (Weekend prices) and said he pays $15 a night for hotels and recommended Hotel Nutibara, I see Nutibara online for $31 and up for tomorrow.I'm sorry. I never said the Nutibara was $15. I was just saying that you should be staying in the area where Nutibara is and that it is a popular hotel for mongers. Other hotels in that area are in the $15 range. Also, if you have boots on the ground somewhere then don't rely on what you see online. By going there to inquire is how you are going to get the best deal. I have a buddy that stays at the Nutibara and pays like $250/month, but you are not going to see that online. You will see that by walking over and asking in person. Same as someone said to get a local number and send messages from that and chicks will give you a lower price than if you send messages from a foreign number.

I am just a person that does not like to reinvent the wheel. You said that you read so much then you go off and stay at a place that nobody has mentioned. That gave me a chuckle and that is why I quoted it and somewhat mocked you for it. It reminded me of my brother. Whenever he has gone somewhere new and I have told him exactly where to stay, somehow he always ends up at a place across town that nobody has mentioned that is way far from the action. When I go somewhere new I will get on here and read and ask other board members where I should be staying. My first time to Medellin I waited until a buddy of mine (who lives there now) that already knew the ropes was going too. I did not have to figure anything out. All I had to do was follow him. That is how I learned of all the $10, $13, $15 hotels and all the casas and bars and strip clubs all around downtown. It would have given me a headache trying to figure all of that stuff out on my own. Had he started me out in Poblado, then maybe I would have been one of the Poblado guys.

Pilot Pete
07-15-19, 04:26
Take your favourite Paisa to Teatro Metropolitano at a spectacular event like Zuruzuela and have dinner afterwards at the small but very good Italian Pomodoro (Clle 73).

Things will never be the same again; Show off quality and impress the Medellin community.

FB chicks, I have done that as well, but I want to forget, the real events, those I remember for life!It appears that Teatro Metropolitano has no performances scheduled during my planned visit, though it was a great suggestion for an upscale date. Any other suggestions would be welcome.

GeneHickman
07-15-19, 04:41
I'm sorry. I never said the Nutibara was $15. I was just saying that you should be staying in the area where Nutibara is and that it is a popular hotel for mongers. Other hotels in that area are in the $15 range. Also, if you have boots on the ground somewhere then don't rely on what you see online. By going there to inquire is how you are going to get the best deal. I have a buddy that stays at the Nutibara and pays like $250/month, but you are not going to see that online. You will see that by walking over and asking in person. Same as someone said to get a local number and send messages from that and chicks will give you a lower price than if you send messages from a foreign number.

I am just a person that does not like to reinvent the wheel. You said that you read so much then you go off and stay at a place that nobody has mentioned. That gave me a chuckle and that is why I quoted it and somewhat mocked you for it. It reminded me of my brother. Whenever he has gone somewhere new and I have told him exactly where to stay, somehow he always ends up at a place across town that nobody has mentioned that is way far from the action. When I go somewhere new I will get on here and read and ask other board members where I should be staying. My first time to Medellin I waited until a buddy of mine (who lives there now) that already knew the ropes was going too. I did not have to figure anything out. All I had to do was follow him. That is how I learned of all the $10, $13, $15 hotels and all the casas and bars and strip clubs all around downtown. It would have given me a headache trying to figure all of that stuff out on my own. Had he started me out in Poblado, then maybe I would have been one of the Poblado guys.100% spot on Mr E. But the problem is so few are willing to share even General info that it becomes difficult for the newbie. I took a conservative approach but had 9 days and I still made errors but with cobbling together whatever info I could and my 35% Spanish, I was able to make it a decent adventure. But I did ignore the stay at the M and all will be solved advise and with any less spanish or less research or less advise form the few who did provide I would have had an inferior experience.

So my plea to fellow mongers is, atleast with generic info, be a tad more generous. It helps set the market better and helps the green ones be less green (atleast some of them). There will always be the ones that can't helped.

JjBee62
07-15-19, 04:58
100% spot on Mr E. But the problem is so few are willing to share even General info that it becomes difficult for the newbie. I took a conservative approach but had 9 days and I still made errors but with cobbling together whatever info I could and my 35% Spanish, I was able to make it a decent adventure. But I did ignore the stay at the M and all will be solved advise and with any less spanish or less research or less advise form the few who did provide I would have had an inferior experience.

So my plea to fellow mongers is, atleast with generic info, be a tad more generous. It helps set the market better and helps the green ones be less green (atleast some of them). There will always be the ones that can't helped.Some of us try. I'll answer any question to the best of my ability, except for "can you give me her contact info." I even go to the trouble of trying other things, just to have the experience. As an example, I spent 2 nights at the Mansion just to understand what type of monger it's best suited for.

I'm also not a one size fits all guy. That's why I ask questions. How's your Spanish? What are your priorities? What environments are you comfortable with? I can't make much of a recommendation without some information.

My hope is that everyone who visits has a great and safe time.

JjBee62
07-15-19, 05:18
I wasn't inspired by ColombiaLover's report, it just worked out that I had a different type of experience today.

A Venezuelan I met 2 years ago has stayed in touch with me. She was back in Venezuela until yesterday when she managed to return to Medellin. Although she was doing P4P when I met her, she's not particularly interested in it. She'll do it when she has to, but she tries to avoid being in that situation. She's 22, ambitious and has no kids. She's also reasonably well educated and comes from a middle class family.

I've been looking forward to seeing her again, not just because she has the perfect look for me, but because we can have an actual conversation about real things.

This afternoon she hit me up. She made it back, has settled in and wanted to do something. I'd been having a lazy day and was happy for the incentive to get off my ass and do something, even though sex was off the table because of her period. Instead I invited her to a movie.

We met at Los Molinos mall, had some coffee and chatted for about 3 hours. I paid for coffee, movie and snacks, but she didn't ask for anything else. It turned into a 5 hour platonic date after which I had the taxi drop her off before taking me back to the apartment. Counting the taxi I spent about 90 k.

I could have found other ways to entertain myself, but sometimes I would rather do something different.

RudeBwoy100
07-15-19, 05:57
Why does anybody here even stay at the hotels? Airbnb.com has amazing prices on entire apartments, there's currently a studio apartment for $15/ night with A. See in El Centro available & tonnes of Laureles apartments are going for $13-17/ night. What's the advantage of getting an apartment over an airbnb when the prices are so much cheaper?

Orgasmico
07-15-19, 13:24
But the problem is so few are willing to share even General info that it becomes difficult for the newbie.

So my plea to fellow mongers is, atleast with generic info, be a tad more generous. It helps set the market better and helps the green ones be less green (atleast some of them). There will always be the ones that can't helped.I don't get it. There is a detailed map with an ample amount of sex establishments, hundreds of trip reports, detailed videos on youtube, social media, online contacts, etc. Yet, I still see people asking questions about Medellin? It reminds me of a facebook group I'm in where every month someone different asks what the cost of living is in Medellin.

Orgasmico
07-15-19, 13:37
Hola, quick question. Are the strip clubs and casas in El Centro open on Sunday nights and are there any that are better on Sundays? Gracias.Have you downloaded the map? The map has some websites, hours of operation, etc. For the various sex establishments in addition to the locations.

I've been to strip clubs on Sundays. Typically, casas are not open during the evening.

Starlord1
07-15-19, 14:12
Yo fellas I will be in town this week. I wanted to know a decent location to hang with a chica for drinks maybe some dancing. My days are Monday Tuesday and Wednesday. I know some times it's hard to find parties on these days. In my last trip it was damn near impossible. I will be staying in engery building. Appreciate any assistance thanks.

Dcfan77
07-15-19, 15:28
Hola, quick question. Are the strip clubs and casas in El Centro open on Sunday nights and are there any that are better on Sundays? Gracias.Most day time casas are closed on Sunday. Strip clubs are open and close at about midnight.

Turgid
07-15-19, 15:38
.............Unfortunately, it turns out that she does not often drink a lot, so toward the end of the night, she threw up. No big deal. We got in the taxi and I was going to take her home, but after about 5 minutes she told the taxitas to instead go to my apartment. We slept together, but did not have sex. Which was fine. I had a good evening. And I know that respectable Colombian women never sleep with a guy on the first date.................Did you try to have sex with her? If not, why not? Respectable girls like sex too and are open to being 'convinced' on the first date.

Big Boss Man
07-15-19, 17:45
Why does anybody here even stay at the hotels? Airbnb.com has amazing prices on entire apartments, there's currently a studio apartment for $15/ night with A. See in El Centro available & tonnes of Laureles apartments are going for $13-17/ night. What's the advantage of getting an apartment over an airbnb when the prices are so much cheaper?I have done both. I like hotels for laundry service, daily cleaning, pay with credit card, fresh towels, breakfast, room safe, back up elevators, better beds, faster service on maintenance, security and no church-going neighbors.

When in Medellin while using a BnB on the last trip, I became partial to using short-time motels for mongering. I was using one of the agents mentioned on the Board and Seeking Arrangement. In Laureles, I can recommend Aloha Suites for basic rooms and Thematic Luxury Suites for an upgraded experience. My Airbnb was between the two motels. The caveat is that I am a daytime monger and the motels are usually discounted during the afternoon. Expect to pay 50 k to 70 k COP for three hours.

JjBee62
07-15-19, 17:51
Why does anybody here even stay at the hotels? Airbnb.com has amazing prices on entire apartments, there's currently a studio apartment for $15/ night with A. See in El Centro available & tonnes of Laureles apartments are going for $13-17/ night. What's the advantage of getting an apartment over an airbnb when the prices are so much cheaper?If you really want to push the envelope on price, why stay in an Airbnb when you can stay at a hostel for under $10 per night?

There are benefits for each. Many Airbnb apartments have excessive rules. Some are in areas where most gringos wouldn't be comfortable. Some of the cheapest ones lack things most people take for granted, like hot water or toilet paper. Colombia is a world leader in uncomfortable furniture. Spending a week on a bed that's either extremely hard, or extremely worn out is no fun.

Hotels come with daily cleaning, extra towels when needed, possibly room service, security.

It's all a matter of individual preference.

Sailor Jim
07-15-19, 18:06
First let me say, and you can verify from my posts, I am a long time monger in second world countries. Thailand 15 times. Bali, Vietnam, Laos. Lived in Dubai 12 years. For some context I am a white American, 58 years old.

Today was my first trip to Medellin and my first day.

I will surely provide some posts after my visit. I thank the forum for the preparation, I have read many pages of posts.

I need some direction to salvage this trip.

Based on posts here I decided to go the El Centro route as I am not a Prima Dona and I like to save money when I am a monger not throw money in the toilet, and I don't need to hang around tourists.

That said, this is not the same as low end Thailand or Vietnam etc.

I am staying at 47 Hotel Medellin which has a 7. 8 rating on hotel.com. $35 a night, great room pictures on the website.

I get to the hotel and here are the issues. No AC, No room safe, No closet? No dresser? No refrigerator. My feet hang off the end of the bed and I am only 5'8" No real bedsheets just a small thin sheet and blanket which I have never see in my life. I asked for a glass to drink my whisky in and they said go to the restaurant on the roof, which I did and the manager said only for restaurant. Went downstairs, hotel staff came up with me and I watched a 3 minute argument about 'I should not get a $1 dollar? Max glass but finally I got. You get the idea.

Then as discussed here you cannot go out and walk at night. The hotel was very clear. No, no,no, no too dangerous. So I am staying in a hotel where I can only go out in the day unless I go straight to a taxi. I cannot even take my phone out of my pocket without becoming some target? (As many experienced people here have said and as my hotel suggested even during the day).

I went to 3 restaurants today. All 3 the waiters were very agitated / annoyed that I did not speak fluent Spanish. They were annoyed I tried to use Google translate. One waitress went and got someone else to help me because she didn't want to use Google translate. All the waiters were visibly annoyed very quickly that I didn't speak Spanish. One restaurant I just walked out of due to them mocking me between themselves because I didn't speak Spanish.

Next I went to Veracruz area and checked out the scene, most of what I saw I would not go with for free. After walking for 2 hours took a 20 year old Venezuelan chick who was at best a 6 just to get something done, she was the best I saw and it was not good.

So I am trying to understand the mentality of people here who are so proud of El Centro, so proud that they can handle it. Is your only goal how cheap you can find pussy? Do you not mind staying in a hotel where it is too dangerous to go out and walk around at night? Do you not mind fucking very subpar pussy? Did I just have bad luck in the Veracruz area? Give it a try tomorrow and it will be better? Are my expectations just too high after mongering for so many years in Asia? Is your only goal how can I get the cheapest pussy but all the other qualities of a vacation are unimportant?

And if you mock and say, just go to the tourist area. Just go to the expensive areas. Let's be clear, that's not me, I don't want to hang out with stupid tourists who over pay I have been doing this 20+ years and that is not at all how I roll. Look at my past posts.

That's my first day in Medellin. I do hope my posts get better but I am not optimistic.Have not yet read all the responses so if what I am saying has already been said I apologize in advance.

It's been written many times before: There is a learning curve with Medellin if you are out and about on your own. Even moreso if your Spanish is limited. This learning curve is overcome by the amt of time you spend here. SO, If you are here for under two weeks get ready to have a good deal of disappointment in the getting a quality sex experience.

I am not promoting the high end places at all but if you are coming down for 10 days and want to get a quality lay or three EVERY day you will be extremely disappointed in Centro or anywhere actually being 100% totally on your own and with minimal Spanish. It is probably best to hit the Mansion or something similar for your first few times to get to learn the ropes, the lay of the land etc.

As far as accomodations and an actual glass as opposed to a plastic cup well welcome to the 3rd world. To do things right you need to forget Sam Adamas in a chilled pilsner glass and make friends with a can of Pilsen. Or you can spend the big bucks in Medellin (way more expensive than Cali or Barranquilla) and go higher end (you're still not getting Sam Adams but Heineken, Bud Stella you get the idea).

As for the girls in centro I wouldn't fuck them with a wooden dick. HOWEVER there are gems to be had who are simply out of this world -the trouble is you are not going to find them and score them in just a week or two down here. By the time you figure it out someone's taken her and you'll never see her again (don't despair as the first few times in the sack for some reason Colombianas are nowhere near their peak performance. After they get to know you and feel comfortable with you it is so much better). This girl you're dying to find again the next night will waste a lot of your time as she may only "work" a few times every other month and in more than just a few different spots.

When you are reading the awesome reports here of having the greatest time in centro you are most definitely getting these reports for seasoned vets who come down all the time, or guys who live here, or guys like you who just happen to hit it lucky. And you most certainly can hit it lucky, in fact I know you will. But unfortunately it will be on your last or second to last day.

When you get home and think about the $ spent and the pussy conquered it will probably seem not worth it.

The difference between Medellin and places like FKK or Curacao is that in the latter you walk in with only English skills and have a hundred women to choose from all in one place. It costs a bit more but you will get quality pussy from day one. When you get home from places like this and think about the $ spent and the pussy conquered it will definitely seem VERY worth it. You've already been to Thailand many times so you know what I am saying.

So if you prefer latinas on the cheap and want good quality you will get it here but it's a process that requires better Spanish and lots of time building the relationships with the girls, being a steady customer and even a customer once she leaves the business. All of which is not happening the way you would like it to happen on this first trip.

I would recommend for you this trip to hit the casas and try to click as early as possible with someone and try to get repeats after hours ("Come to my hotel after work and we'll grab a few beers and a bite and then I'll pay you a little more than when the casa charges for the hour and you'll get to keep all the money instead of splitting it with the casa".

Suerte!

Mr Enternational
07-15-19, 19:01
As for the girls in centro I wouldn't fuck them with a wooden dick. HOWEVER there are gems to be had who are simply out of this world -the trouble is you are not going to find them and score them in just a week or two down here. By the time you figure it out someone's taken her and you'll never see her againThis begs the question as to how and where these gems are to be found. Where are these someones taking them from and taking them to? I have been to Colombia over 100 times but have never been in one place for an entire week, let alone two. Does that make me ineligible to be able to "figure it out?" How much time must one stay there in order to be privy to this mystical information? Can you give us more concrete things to go by instead of speaking abstractly and vaguely?

Surfer500
07-15-19, 20:01
This begs the question as to how and where these gems are to be found. Where are these someones taking them from and taking them to? I have been to Colombia over 100 times but have never been in one place for an entire week, let alone two. Does that make me ineligible to be able to "figure it out?" How much time must one stay there in order to be privy to this mystical information? Can you give us more concrete things to go by instead of speaking abstractly and vaguely?He has a few valid points, you do have to spend a lot of time in El Centro sampling the merchandise to find the performers.

Surfer500
07-15-19, 20:14
The difference between Medellin and places like FKK or Curacao is that in the latter you walk in with only English skills and have a hundred women to choose from all in one place. It costs a bit more but you will get quality pussy from day one. When you get home from places like this and think about the $ spent and the pussy conquered it will definitely seem VERY worth it. You've already been to Thailand many times so you know what I am
Suerte!I have been in Germany a week now, and can tell you for a fact your not going to get quality pussy from day one for just a bit more in a FKK. In Berlin they have one FKK-Artemis and its 80 Euros or about $ 95 US just to get in and a thirty minute session with a covered BJ costs 60 Euros or about $ 65 US. So your looking at $ 155 USD for which I can get laid for a week in Medellin many times over.

Surfer500
07-15-19, 20:17
Yo fellas I will be in town this week. I wanted to know a decent location to hang with a chica for drinks maybe some dancing. My days are Monday Tuesday and Wednesday. I know some times it's hard to find parties on these days. In my last trip it was damn near impossible. I will be staying in engery building. Appreciate any assistance thanks.If your staying in the Energy Building in the La Linde Barrio of Poblado, just walk down the hill to Provenza with your friend and there are numerous places to have drinks.

Blue Touch
07-15-19, 21:41
I have visited El Centro since 2002 and have lived in the Botero area 3-4 month every year since 2010. I know many girls on the street and hotel managers, and their friends. I have seen a (very) few decent girls but not a gem or "diamond in rough."


This begs the question as to how and where these gems are to be found. Where are these someones taking them from and taking them to? I have been to Colombia over 100 times but have never been in one place for an entire week, let alone two. Does that make me ineligible to be able to "figure it out?" How much time must one stay there in order to be privy to this mystical information? Can you give us more concrete things to go by instead of speaking abstractly and vaguely?

JohnJones22
07-15-19, 22:25
Hi all,

So I understand the concept of looking at a girl's friend list on facebook, and most likely her friends with provocative pictures are also hookers, but my question is: how do I even find the first girl to add on facebook? If anyone can give any pointers on what to search for, it would be greatly appreciated!

The Tall Man
07-16-19, 00:19
Hola, quick question. Are the strip clubs and casas in El Centro open on Sunday nights and are there any that are better on Sundays? Gracias.Be sure to check the Medellin maps outs again and note the written portion of it as they usually will state the hours they are open.

For the most part yes these places are open on Sundays however some of the casas are not. I know for sure that the strip clubs in el centro are open Sundays as I have been to all them them on numerous Sundays.

Have fun!

The Tall Man.

GeneHickman
07-16-19, 00:56
Some of us try. I'll answer any question to the best of my ability, except for "can you give me her contact info." I even go to the trouble of trying other things, just to have the experience. As an example, I spent 2 nights at the Mansion just to understand what type of monger it's best suited for.

I'm also not a one size fits all guy. That's why I ask questions. How's your Spanish? What are your priorities? What environments are you comfortable with? I can't make much of a recommendation without some information.

My hope is that everyone who visits has a great and safe time.Agree JjBee, you are an asset to this forum. And your information was very useful and probably helped me the most. There are a couple of others here as well. I am not as seasoned travelling in Colombia but did contribute what I learned in as objective a manner as I could. Obviously I wouldn't expect anyone to hand over contact info on a non pro or part time pro esp. To a perfect stranger (some of whom are frankly very odd folks, I noted that as well), but at the end of the day these women are pay for play and even on them the information here is scant, like as if these mongers are in love. When I look at their multi thousand strong social media, I just have to shake my head at why these people think she's "his little secret". Lmao.

I was just speaking to the average poster here.

Zeos1
07-16-19, 02:14
By the way, do they mind if you whip out a video camera in the strip clubs and film the action. Vacation memories kind of thing?.LOL. Nice.

On a more general note as response to your other post. I get the idea of not wanting to be in a touristy area. Of wanting to see the real deal. Of wanting best bang for the buck. I am one of those. For sure. But I have never quite pulled the pin on staying in Centro Medellin. I've been in Airbnb's in a number of parts of town, and have been in Centro lots and lots. Including at night. But I'm just not sure about spending my vacation there. For one thing. I like spending some time in a bar I'm comfortable in. And I have got to know a few expats and friends in Poblado. So that's my go to place for evening drink. I like the downtown strip clubs once in a while. There is something fun about crawling under a bar, or going through a hole in the wall in the men's john to get to your room that kind of turns my crank. Along with the gal I'm with for sure. So I'm up for all of that. And the casas. Go down town every other day at least for a casa visit. So lots to like about Centro. But I think it would not work for me to stay down there. My Spanish is okay. I can be understood for most normal things. I cannot always understand the Paisa street talk. Especially fast, but most people slow it down and polish it up if speaking to someone who only knows basic standard Spanish.

I guess what I'm saying is that I try to mix things in such a way as to stay happy. I do have to work on that. And sometimes I go to a lower priced hotel in Poblado for a few days. Or go for a morning coffee at an upscale place on Avenida Poblado. Along with dragging a chica through the men's bathroom at Ejectivo to get to bang her up the spiral staircase. Anyway. Lots of options, and potential for a few frustrations here and there. But a change of scene. Room. Various ways to treat yourself a bit. Cheers.

Sailor Jim
07-16-19, 04:27
This begs the question as to how and where these gems are to be found. Where are these someones taking them from and taking them to? I have been to Colombia over 100 times but have never been in one place for an entire week, let alone two. Does that make me ineligible to be able to "figure it out?" How much time must one stay there in order to be privy to this mystical information? Can you give us more concrete things to go by instead of speaking abstractly and vaguely?Someone with 100 trips is not the same as the poster with little to no Spanish who has been here for only two days.

You don't need the advice he needs.

Did you really come down on your 99th trip and start the clock from zero? Sorry 'about the alzheimer's.

JjBee62
07-16-19, 04:39
I've been having some lazy days. Not getting out of the apartment until after 1 pm and not doing too much. Today I took a nice afternoon walk to the Envigado metro station and rode to El Centro. My sole purpose there was to visit my favorite restaurant, Delicias Al Natural. From the owner I learned that a former active member of the board passed away last year. VegasJeff helped show a lot of people the ropes.

After lunch I decided to take a walk through Veracruz and Raudal as well as Botero Plaza. Raudal was first. At the 30-40 k price range, I saw 3 or 4 that I would consider. Walking Veracruz I noticed another 5 or 6 that looked like a bargain to me. There were even a couple at the corner of the Veracruz alley.

As reported by others, lots of Venezuelans were hanging around Botero Plaza. There were a few that looked quite nice. They tend to hang out in groups of 3 or 4.

Parque Bolivar is completely closed off for renovations, as is Parque Poblado. There seems to be bigger crowds around Parque Berrio.

Ended up in Poblado at the beginning of rush hour. Decided to stick around Parque Lleras until the traffic died down. For those who like hanging there, you might check out Chicka Boom Sports Bar across from Hooters. Looks like a Hooters knockoff. Went to Thaico for dinner. They still give you too much food and the price is reasonable.

While I was at Thaico there were a total of 12 tables of customers. 9 of them were gringos.

Sailor Jim
07-16-19, 04:41
I have been in Germany a week now, and can tell you for a fact your not going to get quality pussy from day one for just a bit more in a FKK. In Berlin they have one FKK-Artemis and its 80 Euros or about $ 95 US just to get in and a thirty minute session with a covered BJ costs 60 Euros or about $ 65 US. So your looking at $ 155 USD for which I can get laid for a week in Medellin many times over.Point taken, there are lower priced FKKs though. My point was there's more of a learning curve for someone down here for a short period of time then say a place where the language is less of an issue, crime is less of an issue and the monger scene is more concentrated.

This guy who is down here now (not you), where would he have a better quality pussy time as a first timer:

1.) If he stayed in Medellin with someone who could show him the ropes or at mansion type place.

2.) Or by going to like a Campo in Curacao.

3.) Getting off the plane in Medellin with little to no Spanish and taking a taxi to a hotel near deGrief.

Sure #1 and #2 will cost more.

JMHO.

Sailor Jim
07-16-19, 04:48
He has a few valid points, you do have to spend a lot of time in El Centro sampling the merchandise to find the performers.And a lot of girls disappear for a few weeks at a time or only work certain times of the month or year. Someone here for a short time might meet a gem go with her a few times and she really starts to open up. But then she wifes up with one of her regulars (MrE can figure out where they go. It's not rocket science) and then our new guy is back to square 1, his plane leaves in 3 days.

The guys who live here or have 100 trips under their belt don't care about just one babe because the black book has a million names cultivated over the years. The new guy does.

Lefeu
07-16-19, 06:22
I have been in Germany a week now, and can tell you for a fact your not going to get quality pussy from day one for just a bit more in a FKK. In Berlin they have one FKK-Artemis and its 80 Euros or about $ 95 US just to get in and a thirty minute session with a covered BJ costs 60 Euros or about $ 65 US. So your looking at $ 155 USD for which I can get laid for a week in Medellin many times over.I just recently came back from a week long trip to Germany, and I stayed in the Frankfurt area. I visit the FKKs every year, and have been doing this for a good 14+ years. Indeed it is more expensive but it is a different environment. It is after all Europe, where everything is a bit more expensive than in Colombia. Not a good idea to compare the cost of getting laid in the FKKs versus Colombia. For one, you get different types of women. And it is not always covered BJ. I get BBBJ all the time, as I negotiate that in advance, plus other services. Some times, I am asked to pay more for the session but not always.

Trojan22
07-16-19, 08:06
Is there a list of casas in laureles anyone is aware of. Any recommendations of casas in Laureles?

Thanks much!There is only one or two casas in Laureles worth going to by all accounts.

Surfer500
07-16-19, 09:13
I just recently came back from a week long trip to Germany, and I stayed in the Frankfurt area. I visit the FKKs every year, and have been doing this for a good 14+ years. Indeed it is more expensive but it is a different environment. It is after all Europe, where everything is a bit more expensive than in Colombia. Not a good idea to compare the cost of getting laid in the FKKs versus Colombia. For one, you get different types of women. And it is not always covered BJ. I get BBBJ all the time, as I negotiate that in advance, plus other services. Some times, I am asked to pay more for the session but not always.Yes, comparing mongering costs for Germany versus Colombia is like comparing apples to oranges. However, as far as service goes here in Berlin, it is sub-par big-time compared to what I am used to in Colombia and I have been to five different places here in Berlin.

PepolesBuddy
07-16-19, 15:19
I just recently came back from a week long trip to Germany, and I stayed in the Frankfurt area. I visit the FKKs every year, and have been doing this for a good 14+ years. Indeed it is more expensive but it is a different environment. It is after all Europe, where everything is a bit more expensive than in Colombia. Not a good idea to compare the cost of getting laid in the FKKs versus Colombia. For one, you get different types of women. And it is not always covered BJ. I get BBBJ all the time, as I negotiate that in advance, plus other services. Some times, I am asked to pay more for the session but not always.It's more than just price. Never been to FKK in Germany. Gringas aren't my style. But you also have to consider safety and security. Yes chicas are more expensive in Europe. But they also don't drug you with scopolamine, rob you or accidentally kill you with an overdose. Don't believe look up dead Canadian professor that got drugged and dumped by some paisitas. He was giving too much "papaya" is the paisa expression.

Although most won't admit it. There are a lot of members on here that have been robbed because of their easy going western ways. I myself have been victim to the thieves of Medellin. I almost got pickpocketed once. . I myself fell victim to a waiter that overcharged me with drinks because I didn't ask for the prices first and didn't verify the receipt. Yes Medellin is great and safe. But you always have to be alert. As an American coming from the nations capital. It gets tiring being on alert everyday.

Point is. Everything has a trade off. If I liked gringuitas and I had the money. I'the spend the extra and party in Western Europe where the culture is less cut throat. I'm sure the chicas there would rob me if I let me guard down. But st least I don't have to be worried about scopolamine, devils breath, or buudurnaga whatever you call it.

Stone2673
07-16-19, 17:35
So I'm not new to the mongering scene but had a motorcycle accident 9 years ago that resulted me being in a wheelchair. Prior to that Germany, Belgium, the UK, Thailand and Japan where all places I had success. My favorite being the UK as with the influx of Eastern Europeans, it keeps prices down with gorgeous girls. Throw in orgy parties, can't beat it. Plus I was working in the UK and earning UK pounds. That was followed by FKK clubs in Germany. Since my accident I rely a lot more on outcall dates. I am also no stranger to dodgy scenes or dangerous areas whether walking or in the wheelchair. I've done dates with girls where their pimps been sitting in the corner playing video games.

I was thinking about making a tour of South America spending a month in Medellin and one in Bogota. From the posts about each City Bogota seems a little easier to navigate. I'd be interested and some of the locals views on how practical this is, keeping in mind wherever possible I don't let the wheelchair get in my way. I'm also opportunistic when it comes to the girls. From the street to the high-end and from 5 to 10's. (I do have some standards). I'm hoping they get the credit card system sorted out so I can send and receive PM's.

Is there an outcall scene? Was thinking staying at a decent hotel or Airbnb (I like my privacy) and use love hotels booked for multiple hours.

I am aware of the issues around lodging in Colombia and will have to be diligent to sort out an appropriate place.

Fun Luvr
07-16-19, 22:54
So I understand the concept of looking at a girl's friend list on facebook, and most likely her friends with provocative pictures are also hookers, but my question is: how do I even find the first girl to add on facebook? If anyone can give any pointers on what to search for, it would be greatly appreciated!Most of the ladies have their friends list hidden. Here is a Facebook link for a lady whose friends you can see. https://www.facebook.com/tita.sanz.927 I did a quick scan and it appears that all her friends are gringos. You will need to look at her gringo friends and probably some of them will have their friends list open to everyone. Find ladies that way. As long as you have a real Facebook profile, you will get good responses to friend requests.

YippieKayay
07-17-19, 02:51
So I'm not new to the mongering scene but had a motorcycle accident 9 years ago that resulted me being in a wheelchair. Colombia isn't very wheelchair friendly. You should come with a friend who can help you. In Medellin, especially, there were many buildings with no elevator and only a set of stairs. I wouldn't venture in centro alone in a wheelchair. You'd be too much of a target.

And don't listen to people who tell you Colombia is perfectly safe. There are murders and robberies happening all the time.

If you're going to do this try a more touristy city like Cartagena.

Beobeo
07-17-19, 04:11
Hi everyone,

I'm new and planning a trip in Medellin. I'm looking for recommendation for casas in Medellin with the hottest girls. So far from what I read here, New Life is the best. Thank you for your recommendations.

JjBee62
07-17-19, 04:14
After a day of doing practically nothing, I was sitting in the San Antonio station, waiting for a southbound train when my Venezuelan, from the movies Sunday night, sent me a message. Can I do her a favor?

She's been so good. Hasn't asked for anything. Checks in just to say Hello, every day. Let's me know she wants to see me again before I go. Just really easy to deal with. Can I do her a favor?

I was certain the next message would be a request for money. After all, isn't that what they always say? Can you do me a favor? I need money.

Not this time. She wants to come to the apartment to take some nude photos. Apparently, someone wants to pay her for photos. Nothing wrong with that and I get the benefit.

JjBee62
07-17-19, 04:22
So I'm not new to the mongering scene but had a motorcycle accident 9 years ago that resulted me being in a wheelchair. Prior to that Germany, Belgium, the UK, Thailand and Japan where all places I had success. My favorite being the UK as with the influx of Eastern Europeans, it keeps prices down with gorgeous girls. Throw in orgy parties, can't beat it. Plus I was working in the UK and earning UK pounds. That was followed by FKK clubs in Germany. Since my accident I rely a lot more on outcall dates. I am also no stranger to dodgy scenes or dangerous areas whether walking or in the wheelchair. I've done dates with girls where their pimps been sitting in the corner playing video games.

I was thinking about making a tour of South America spending a month in Medellin and one in Bogota. From the posts about each City Bogota seems a little easier to navigate. I'd be interested and some of the locals views on how practical this is, keeping in mind wherever possible I don't let the wheelchair get in my way. I'm also opportunistic when it comes to the girls. From the street to the high-end and from 5 to 10's. (I do have some standards). I'm hoping they get the credit card system sorted out so I can send and receive PM's.

Is there an outcall scene? Was thinking staying at a decent hotel or Airbnb (I like my privacy) and use love hotels booked for multiple hours.

I am aware of the issues around lodging in Colombia and will have to be diligent to sort out an appropriate place.If you're going to stay in Medellin, I'll suggest Laureles. Poblado has too many hills and wheelchair accessible places aren't common in El Centro. You'll need to be quite specific about your needs for an apartment. If their are any laws governing accessibility, they aren't enforced.

There is an outcall scene. Mainly it's through Facebook. Just a few posts down is a post telling you how to get started. Any account you can add is "Happy Ending Medellin. " Lots of working girls on that friend list.

NoShadow
07-17-19, 06:48
Booked a trip to try Medellin out for the first time. Going with few other guys - 1 has been and is amped about the trip. We have a Air BNB? is has anyone ever went during the Festival of Flowers. We didn't think months ago when we booked and come to find out we are going to be there during the busiest time of year. Will this impact our opportunities. We do have a VIP service set up. Any recommendations horror stories good news about traveling during this time?

JjBee62
07-17-19, 12:15
Hi everyone,

I'm new and planning a trip in Medellin. I'm looking for recommendation for casas in Medellin with the hottest girls. So far from what I read here, New Life is the best. Thank you for your recommendations.There is no "the best" casa when you're talking about "the hottest girls. " New Life is the most popular casa, especially with the gringos. It's also one of the cleanest and usually has the largest lineup.

Finding the hottest girl is a sucker's game. You'll bounce to several casas, hoping to find one just a bit hotter, before deciding the hottest was at the first casa. By the time you return, she's gone for the day.

Picking a girl simply because she's the hottest is also going to lead to disappointment. Everyone else picks her every day. She doesn't need to work to impress anyone. She'll still make her money.

At a casa, I look for attitude. There's usually 1 or 2 that stand out. They look happy, they look excited to meet you and there's a bit of a challenge in their eyes. Those are the girls who will usually make sure you remember their names.

Your first step should be the Medellin Lists thread at the bottom of the page. Download the Medellin map. I usually suggest putting together a basic route of 3 casas: New Life, Aiffe and Sexxy Amigas. You can add more to the route as needed. You will likely find what you're looking for in 1 of the 3.

Beobeo
07-17-19, 14:06
If you're going to stay in Medellin, I'll suggest Laureles. Poblado has too many hills and wheelchair accessible places aren't common in El Centro. You'll need to be quite specific about your needs for an apartment. If their are any laws governing accessibility, they aren't enforced.

There is an outcall scene. Mainly it's through Facebook. Just a few posts down is a post telling you how to get started. Any account you can add is "Happy Ending Medellin. " Lots of working girls on that friend list.I definitely second this, Laureles is your best shot. I would contact hotel / airbnb about wheelchair accessible first before booking. I normally would recommend San Peter building but its not wheelchair friendly, definitely girls friendly though.

Turgid
07-17-19, 15:21
........ my Venezuelan, from the movies Sunday night, sent me a message. Can I do her a favor?........... She wants to come to the apartment to take some nude photos.........She really meant to say "Can I do you a favor?".

Orgasmico
07-17-19, 15:49
Apparently, someone wants to pay her for photos. Sharing is caring! Feel free to post them here.

Beobeo
07-17-19, 20:29
There is no "the best" casa when you're talking about "the hottest girls. " New Life is the most popular casa, especially with the gringos. It's also one of the cleanest and usually has the largest lineup.

Finding the hottest girl is a sucker's game. You'll bounce to several casas, hoping to find one just a bit hotter, before deciding the hottest was at the first casa. By the time you return, she's gone for the day.

Picking a girl simply because she's the hottest is also going to lead to disappointment. Everyone else picks her every day. She doesn't need to work to impress anyone. She'll still make her money.

At a casa, I look for attitude. There's usually 1 or 2 that stand out. They look happy, they look excited to meet you and there's a bit of a challenge in their eyes. Those are the girls who will usually make sure you remember their names.

Your first step should be the Medellin Lists thread at the bottom of the page. Download the Medellin map. I usually suggest putting together a basic route of 3 casas: New Life, Aiffe and Sexxy Amigas. You can add more to the route as needed. You will likely find what you're looking for in 1 of the 3.I appreciated the tips and I do agree with you. Attitude is huge for me, I don't need no stuck up WG. I also have to find her attractive though, I prefer not to fuck any average 5. I prefer 7+ with good attitude. I probably prefer reasonably cleanliness, I don't want to fuck in a shit hole even with a hot girl. One place come to mind is Jakuza I thinl that's how it spell, if I see a girl I want to fuck there I probably get her number for takeout. Also, any shit hole casa I should avoid? Thanks.

JjBee62
07-17-19, 20:40
I'm sitting in Plaza Mayorca waiting for the girl to arrive and a hot woman sits down nearby. She's fine, but I don't see any possibilities there.

A few minutes later a gringo sits down next to her. After playing with his phone for a few minutes, he strikes up a conversation. She speaks English. Pretty typical conversation. He's leading up to asking her out. She's friendly, but not jumping in his arms.

Finally he pops the question. She has a boyfriend. It was a reasonably gentle crash, but still entertaining.

Knowledge
07-17-19, 23:11
Laureles is a better choice to avoid the steep hills of Poblado. Laureles is better than Centro because the streets are not as congested; it will be easier to move about in a wheelchair.


I definitely second this, Laureles is your best shot. I would contact hotel / airbnb about wheelchair accessible first before booking. I normally would recommend San Peter building but its not wheelchair friendly, definitely girls friendly though.

Mr Enternational
07-17-19, 23:54
Finally he pops the question. She has a boyfriend. It was a reasonably gentle crash, but still entertaining.Since when does that stop the show? Next question: Are you happy? Let's go out anyway. I won't scream if you won't holler. Etc.

Orgasmico
07-18-19, 03:10
Looks like some chica will be going on a spending spree. I hope dude doesn't have any lingering effects from the drug.

MiamiSammy
07-18-19, 03:15
Booked a trip to try Medellin out for the first time. Going with few other guys - 1 has been and is amped about the trip. We have a Air BNB? is has anyone ever went during the Festival of Flowers. We didn't think months ago when we booked and come to find out we are going to be there during the busiest time of year. Will this impact our opportunities. We do have a VIP service set up. Any recommendations horror stories good news about traveling during this time?You can look at it two ways; there are going to be a ton of people in town, traffic is going to suck, and a lot of girls are going to be partying instead of working. That being said, Medellin has a thriving mongering trade, and big festivals always bring outside talent and amateurs into town for a quick economic bump. Beyond that, lean into the festival. Check out all the food, the parades, soak in the culture. You've chanced in on Medellin's high festival, and it's going to be a party of epic proportions. It's all a matter of perspective.

JjBee62
07-18-19, 04:15
Since when does that stop the show? Next question: Are you happy? Let's go out anyway. I won't scream if you won't holler. Etc.He tried. He even shifted to taking them both out to dinner. The show was stopped before it started.

JjBee62
07-18-19, 04:47
It seems like I've worked my way into the friend zone with the Venezuelan. Either that or she's working the long game. Like I said before, things always change, just need to adapt to the changes.

Naturally she showed up late. When she was close I went down to escort her in and chatted with the porter until she pulled up. He gave me an envious look when I walked her by. Got up to the apartment and she made sure her hair and makeup were good before getting ready for the photo shoot. I got drafted to be the photographer with her new Samsung. Which means I don't have all the pictures. I did snap one while she was checking the photos.

Overall, spent about 90 minutes posing for stills and performing for 2 videos. Afterwards chatted for a bit before she left. The bad news, doesn't look like I'll be scoring there. Good news, other than the movie Sunday, I didn't give her any money. She paid for her own taxi each way. Plus, I'm happy with being 2 foot away while a hot girl is fingering herself.

However, that did leave me a bit frustrated, so I headed to El Centro. Took a stroll through Veracruz and Raudal. Once again saw several of interest, if I was looking for the street girls. Did have one tranny try to grab me in Veracruz alley. All else went well.

After that I headed to Bar Show Montijo. It's still a tiny shithole bar. Beers are 5 k. Fake lady beers are 6 k. Not counting the bartender there were 4 girls in the bar. 1 was okay and one was fine. I brought the fine one over and we started talking. I was feeling generous so ended up buying 4 lady beers for her and 2 beers for me. She asked if I wanted to go have fun for 60 k.

There's only 1 tiny room, but it's easily accessible and has something resembling a shower. The girl had a Blasian look to her, was about 20,4'11" and maybe 85#. She had a bit of a tiny belly, but not bad. Once in the room she attacked with DFK and rode me hard. Definitely was better than I expected.

Bonhead
07-18-19, 07:48
Anyone know if there is still any after hours action?

I remember some years back there was La Manzana and another spot called Casablanca. Both started up around 3 am and kept it going till 7-8 a. Both were in Centro about a 5 min taxi ride from each other. There was another place too called Gordos but that spot was more scary for me. Lots of dudes with their guns right on the table.

JjBee62
07-18-19, 08:47
Anyone know if there is still any after hours action?

I remember some years back there was La Manzana and another spot called Casablanca. Both started up around 3 am and kept it going till 7-8 a. Both were in Centro about a 5 min taxi ride from each other. There was another place too called Gordos but that spot was more scary for me. Lots of dudes with their guns right on the table.The biggest after hours club is Club Fahrenheit in Itagui. I'm sure there are others.

FortuneWaffers
07-18-19, 11:28
Anyone know if there is still any after hours action?

I remember some years back there was La Manzana and another spot called Casablanca. Both started up around 3 am and kept it going till 7-8 a. Both were in Centro about a 5 min taxi ride from each other. There was another place too called Gordos but that spot was more scary for me. Lots of dudes with their guns right on the table.I thought the whole notion is to stay the fuck away from Centro after dark? I was told not to go there at night unless in a tank or bulletproof shell.

Travis McGee
07-18-19, 11:39
Is the Art Hotel Boutique chica-friendly? Anyone ever stayed there who can give a review / report on whether it's a good base for mongering activities?

YippieKayay
07-18-19, 12:38
Looks like some chica will be going on a spending spree. I hope dude doesn't have any lingering effects from the drug.Instead of doing the smart thing and letting it go he's going to play "detective. " he's lucky he is still alive after that.

Don't meet chicas on tinder who don't have ID and take you out drinking. Not a good idea.

Kvh4484
07-18-19, 13:00
Before heading to Medellin I searched and searched for hours and you guys did not disappoint. Between using this forum and google, I was able to find new life and aifee. Both were a great time and I wouldn't have found it without the assists from you all. To all newbies (like myself) put in the work. It sucks but is worth it. Dulce at aifee was great but jayralee (something like that) was amazing at new life. DT for 10 minutes and did anything I asked. Will be back!

Kazeu
07-18-19, 13:57
Yea the rooms in that place suck. But you can take them out to the hotel across the street. I believe its the same price, but you got to pay for the hotel room.


I appreciated the tips and I do agree with you. Attitude is huge for me, I don't need no stuck up WG. I also have to find her attractive though, I prefer not to fuck any average 5. I prefer 7+ with good attitude. I probably prefer reasonably cleanliness, I don't want to fuck in a shit hole even with a hot girl. One place come to mind is Jakuza I thinl that's how it spell, if I see a girl I want to fuck there I probably get her number for takeout. Also, any shit hole casa I should avoid? Thanks.

Orgasmico
07-18-19, 15:45
Instead of doing the smart thing and letting it go he's going to play "detective. " he's lucky he is still alive after that.

Don't meet chicas on tinder who don't have ID and take you out drinking. Not a good idea.The time to play detective is actually before you meet up with the chica if you go the online route. This is not unique to Tinder as the girls have expanded to just about every online dating type site. I know a guy that had a similar thing happen with a chica from Cupid. As mentioned b4, some guys are too embarrassed to say anything so you don't hear about it so at least this guy shared his experience.

Big Boss Man
07-18-19, 19:06
The time to play detective is actually before you meet up with the chica if you go the online route. This is not unique to Tinder as the girls have expanded to just about every online dating type site. I know a guy that had a similar thing happen with a chica from Cupid. As mentioned b4, some guys are too embarrassed to say anything so you don't hear about it so at least this guy shared his experience.I received a message on Secret Benefits from a Medellin chica today. She looks good if you are into spinners. I wonder how she knew I would be interested in Medellin.

Surfer500
07-18-19, 20:16
I thought the whole notion is to stay the fuck away from Centro after dark? I was told not to go there at night unless in a tank or bulletproof shell.It depends on a few things, which part of El Centro your in and whether your an obvious foreigner.

JjBee62
07-18-19, 20:51
It depends on a few things, which part of El Centro your in and whether your an obvious foreigner.And whether you walk around with that "deer in the headlights" look, whether you look at every Colombian as if they are about to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) or murder you, whether you lose control of your bladder when you see a passed out druggie and whether or not you have any idea where you're going.

John Gault
07-18-19, 22:45
I thought the whole notion is to stay the fuck away from Centro after dark? I was told not to go there at night unless in a tank or bulletproof shell.Yes by all means scared rabbits should not even think about El Centro at night.

KilledSoul
07-18-19, 22:53
Hi all,

So I understand the concept of looking at a girl's friend list on facebook, and most likely her friends with provocative pictures are also hookers, but my question is: how do I even find the first girl to add on facebook? If anyone can give any pointers on what to search for, it would be greatly appreciated!Here is something I wrote sometime back.


No need to be in Medellin for making a friendlist. You need to be in Medellin for the girls to take you seriously over FB chat.

Below is a list with friends who have open friends tab I. E you can see all their friends:

https://www.facebook.com/alka.line.16547008

https://www.facebook.com/juanita.londono.9634/

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011323845278 -- pretty sure most the girls in his friendlist will accept your request.

https://www.facebook.com/Malcolm.Babygrand.Flythe -- most the his friends are also prepagos.

https://www.facebook.com/ray.paris.5661

Just keep adding the friends from above profiles and don't over do it to trigger FB spam detectors. Also don't forget to add gringos to your list. Will later help you to know who is a prepago and who is not.

Now if somebody could also write how to crack Phillipines FB scene. Can't make any inroads in finding Filipino FB chicas.

Bonhead
07-18-19, 23:10
Just caught her at Sara. So nice and friendly. 4'10" maybe 90 lbs wet. Get her while she is there.

Cra 45 (El Palo) No. 57 - 71 - 2 DO. Piso.

Tel 254 86 22.

There were maybe 12 girls to pick from. She's was by far the best. A solid 8. 5 on my scale. The rest were 6. 5's and below.

Guido88
07-19-19, 02:39
Is the Art Hotel Boutique chica-friendly? Anyone ever stayed there who can give a review / report on whether it's a good base for mongering activities?Taken from Agoda.com reviews solo traveler.

"If you are coming to Medellin to enjoy yourself and to have fun this hotel is in a great location BUT if you want to have a guest they will charge you $45 US for every guest that you bring in. Even if its the same person every day, you will be charged. When I use to stay here they only asked for the guests identification card, now its changed in a bad way. ".

Best.

Guido88.

RudeBwoy100
07-19-19, 04:54
Question: Have anybody here ever successfully gotten a session from a girl they met on Myfreecams? I ask because it's pretty much all Colombians in the South American section and so many hot chicas who we can clearly see how they look via cam, so no worries of outdated photos. I keep getting turned down when I ask to visit them in Colombia, do none of these girls trick on the side in your guy's experience?

Surfer500
07-19-19, 09:33
And whether you walk around with that "deer in the headlights" look, whether you look at every Colombian as if they are about to murder you, whether you lose control of your bladder when you see a passed out druggie and whether or not you have any idea where you're going.And you have all those dazed and confused sacaleros, along with the she-males waiting for a gringo to walk the gauntlet.

JjBee62
07-19-19, 12:14
I reported before that Motel Ibiza is now checking cedulas and handing out flyers about trafficking. Apparently, they're not the only motel that's changing things up.

Yesterday morning I met a former ATF in Laureles. After some breakfast we walked to Esplendor 70 and were turned away. They only will rent if everyone entering has a Colombian cedula. Fortunately, Suites 44 is just a block away and they had no problem renting me a room.

Yesterday evening met up with last week's 3 some for a repeat. Decided to try Kuboz Suites on Carrera 33. They also insisted that everyone must have a Colombian cedula. Flagged down another taxi and went back to Ibiza.

If you use love motels, save yourself some frustration and check with the motel first.

JjBee62
07-19-19, 12:48
My former ATF has been on me for 2 months about seeing her while I was in Medellin. However, we've been having scheduling issues. Last Saturday was supposed to be her day, but then her period started, causing her to push it back to Thursday.

Yesterday morning we met at the Estadio metro station. Timing was almost perfect. I arrived 5 minutes before her and at 11:10 we were sitting at a restaurant looking at menus. At 11:12 the waiter was explaining that he couldn't take our orders or bring us anything to drink until 11:30. Ah Colombia. Why did you even bring us menus?

A short walk brought us to another restaurant which had no problems serving us, once we got their attention. After a nice late breakfast, we walked another 2 blocks to Motel Esplendor 70, only to be turned away. All persons entering require a Colombian cedula. Another short walk brought us to Suites 44. They had no problems serving us.

Basic rooms cost 40 k and include air conditioning, sound system, TV and a small bathroom with hot water. Room was nice and clean and comfortable.

The last year or so has been rough on the girl. I think she's 32 now and she's lost some weight that she couldn't afford to lose. She's still sweet and friendly, always shows up clean and smelling good and her head game is still too notch. She's also someone who puts in an effort to get the job done.

We covered all the bases, but I just couldn't get there. It happens from time to time and I don't sweat it, especially when the girl is trying her best. I'd already thrown in the towel when she decided to give it one more try. That's when we found out her period wasn't quite finished.

She went to extreme measures to keep me from noticing, not realizing I'd already seen the carnage. It doesn't bother me, I've ridden the RedBall Express many times. I let her believe I hadn't noticed anything and headed to the shower. I don't know how big of a mess we made, but when I came out of the shower, she had placed a pillow over the spot where her ass was. I'm pretty sure that sheet went to the dumpster.

It was a good session for old times sake.

Orgasmico
07-19-19, 13:53
Had a great session yesterday. Took a friend visiting Meddy to a casa, it is a place with a blue door and they don't have fliers. Anyway, there were several chicas and one that came out would not let go of my hand when we shook hands. She was really cute, big full lips, big ass, small waist, big tits and trigueña complexion. Kept smiling at me while holding my hand and had a perfect smile and positive energy so I chose her.

In the room she was all smiles and playful. Good BBBJ so I gave her a 20 mil propina. Sex was good as we did several different positions and even after I came we kept stroking for awhile. When we finished and I cleaned up, I got hard again just looking at her and she grabbed my dick again and started kissing me on my neck. I told her I hoped to catch her again if I ever come back and she insisted I take her WhatsApp. Very cool girl.

For those looking for something different, I'm sharing this flyer I was handed yesterday. Maybe one of you chaps can try it and report back.

JjBee62
07-19-19, 15:39
Question: Have anybody here ever successfully gotten a session from a girl they met on Myfreecams? I ask because it's pretty much all Colombians in the South American section and so many hot chicas who we can clearly see how they look via cam, so no worries of outdated photos. I keep getting turned down when I ask to visit them in Colombia, do none of these girls trick on the side in your guy's experience?Myfreecams is the most difficult webcam site for a model to make money on. If she's making money on MFC, she's earning the equivalent of $200 k US per year, minimum. If she's ranked in the top 250, bump that up to $350 k US. That's working less than 20 hours per week.

In addition, 9 out of 10 Colombian webcam models are working for a studio. That means every PM you send, every tip note, is also being read by the studio's monitor.

The studio is going to frown on their model hooking on the side and the model doesn't want to take a pay cut to deal with a sweaty gringo.

You have 3 options, 2 are expensive.

1. Become her top tipper. Every single show, spend $300+ on tips. Send her presents, expensive ones. Be sweet and polite. Make her laugh. Never unload your problems on her. If you do everything right, after spending $50-$100 k over 12 months, she might be willing to have lunch with you. Then if you really impress her, you might, after several dates, get her in bed with you.

2. There's an MFC model who sells 1 week vacations with her. It costs 100,000 tokens in a single tip ($8,000). She picks the destination, you pay all the expenses. Figure on spending another $10 k minimum. There's no guarantee of sex, but your chances are good. I've met her and she's definitely drop-dead gorgeous.

3. Connect with girls through Facebook. Chat with them. Tell them you like webcams. Chances are good you'll find one who tried webcam, but didn't make any money.

JjBee62
07-19-19, 15:41
Had a great session yesterday. Took a friend visiting Meddy to a casa, it is a place with a blue door and they don't have fliers. Anyway, there were several chicas and one that came out would not let go of my hand when we shook hands. She was really cute, big full lips, big ass, small waist, big tits and triguea complexion. Kept smiling at me while holding my hand and had a perfect smile and positive energy so I chose her.

In the room she was all smiles and playful. Good BBBJ so I gave her a 20 mil propina. Sex was good as we did several different positions and even after I came we kept stroking for awhile. When we finished and I cleaned up, I got hard again just looking at her and she grabbed my dick again and started kissing me on my neck. I told her I hoped to catch her again if I ever come back and she insisted I take her WhatsApp. Very cool girl.

For those looking for something different, I'm sharing this flyer I was handed yesterday. Maybe one of you chaps can try it and report back.A place with a blue door that's 1 block south of a place with a red door?

RudeBwoy100
07-19-19, 18:06
Myfreecams is the most difficult webcam site for a model to make money on. If she's making money on MFC, she's earning the equivalent of $200 k US per year, minimum. If she's ranked in the top 250, bump that up to $350 k US. That's working less than 20 hours per week.

In addition, 9 out of 10 Colombian webcam models are working for a studio. That means every PM you send, every tip note, is also being read by the studio's monitor.

The studio is going to frown on their model hooking on the side and the model doesn't want to take a pay cut to deal with a sweaty gringo.

You have 3 options, 2 are expensive.

1. Become her top tipper. Every single show, spend $300+ on tips. Send her presents, expensive ones. Be sweet and polite. Make her laugh. Never unload your problems on her. If you do everything right, after spending $50-$100 k over 12 months, she might be willing to have lunch with you. Then if you really impress her, you might, after several dates, get her in bed with you.

2. There's an MFC model who sells 1 week vacations with her. It costs 100,000 tokens in a single tip ($8,000). She picks the destination, you pay all the expenses. Figure on spending another $10 k minimum. There's no guarantee of sex, but your chances are good. I've met her and she's definitely drop-dead gorgeous.

3. Connect with girls through Facebook. Chat with them. Tell them you like webcams. Chances are good you'll find one who tried webcam, but didn't make any money.I actually never watch the girls who gets tonnes of tips and attention as the only reason I use MFC is because I get to talk to the girls, practice my Spanish and if it's not interactive I wouldn't ever buy tokens-- I prefer talking to the new girls or the girls with not many fans & don't make much $. Thanks for telling me that most of them work for agencies though who monitor their PMs, I guess that's the reason why none of them seem down to make some money on the side. I'm going to try and get their what's app if that's the case and see if they become more receptive, I have so many of them on my favorites that I'd love to hook up with in person, if I'm successfully in getting their what's app and find they're more receptive I will post ITT telling people that this is another route of mongering.

Mr Enternational
07-19-19, 18:08
For those looking for something different, I'm sharing this flyer I was handed yesterday. Maybe one of you chaps can try it and report back.I sent a whatsapp message asking for the address and in return received that as well as the 3rd degree!:

Direccion: Carrera 47 # 59 - 10. Sucre con Cuba. Sector Villa Nueva. Centro de Medellin.

Hay tres parqueaderos afuera. Fcil parqueo. si eres malo para las direcciones. Un taxi te deja en toda la puerta.

Antes de empezar hacer cualquier tipo de preguntas por favor lea esto detenidamente para no hacer preguntas que no vienen al caso:

El servicio es solo en la sede. Repetimos.

El servicio es SOLO en la sede. El servicio via WhatsApp, es solo para una informacion basica.

No es para mandar fotos, ni chatear, ni mucho menos mandar videos. Repetimos.

No es para mandar fotos, ni chatear, ni mucho menos mandar videos. Es solo para esta informacion basica.

Tarifas:
Media Hora: $ 40.000.
Una Hora: $ 60.000.

Horarios:
Lunes a Sabados. 10:30 am a 7:00 pm. Ni Domingos, ni Festivos.

Tanto como el personal, como la clientela, es a partir de 18 aos LOGICAMENTE! NO podemos dar mas informaciand por este medio.

Por favor. No mas Preguntas. Repetimos. NO podemos dar mas informacion por este medio. Por favor. No mas Preguntas!! Todos LOS detalles o cualquier otra pregunta. SOLO personalmente sin ningun compromiso.

La entrada es gratis. TE ESPERAMOS! Repetimos. NO SE MANDAN FOTOSSSS!!

JjBee62
07-19-19, 19:24
I actually never watch the girls who gets tonnes of tips and attention as the only reason I use MFC is because I get to talk to the girls, practice my Spanish and if it's not interactive I wouldn't ever buy tokens-- I prefer talking to the new girls or the girls with not many fans & don't make much $. Thanks for telling me that most of them work for agencies though who monitor their PMs, I guess that's the reason why none of them seem down to make some money on the side. I'm going to try and get their what's app if that's the case and see if they become more receptive, I have so many of them on my favorites that I'd love to hook up with in person, if I'm successfully in getting their what's app and find they're more receptive I will post ITT telling people that this is another route of mongering.Good luck with that. It's another route of mongering the same way that going to the grocery store and offering women money for sex is another route of mongering.

If you're just going after the beginning girls in Colombia, you're at 10 of 10 for working with a studio. Who do you think is buying the cameras, laptops and lighting, plus paying for the fiber connection, plus providing a place to broadcast from? Plus the studio is paying the girl a minimum to support her until she starts making money. They've got a lot invested and they aren't getting a share of anything she makes on the side.

Of course it all depends on the studio. Most of the the models either work for AJ Studio, CM Studio, or Juan Bustos Studio. They are all big players, with several thousand models between them. They'll either ignore you, or worst case block you. There are also dozens of studios, run be a few wannabe pimps. You might have a chance there, if the pimp thinks there's enough of a profit to be made. Hardly worth the effort when there are 20,000 women in Medellin who will be happy to take your money.

I've written about this extensively here. I know dozens of current and former webcam girls. I had a successful webcam model for a roommate for 10 months. I spent almost a year working with webcam models. I got to hear all about the guys who think a webcam model is just a prepago. I've watched hundreds of guys get shot down trying to do just what you're trying. I've also watched guys bankrupt themselves trying to win a webcam model. I've watched guys self-destruct when they find out their favorite model has a boyfriend. It's all intended to be a fantasy world. Trying to make it real is a waste of time.

Webcams are great, for people who enjoy them, and I did for years. They're not so great if you're trying to meet real women.

Surfer500
07-19-19, 19:34
I reported before that Motel Ibiza is now checking cedulas and handing out flyers about trafficking. Apparently, they're not the only motel that's changing things up.

Yesterday morning I met a former ATF in Laureles. After some breakfast we walked to Esplendor 70 and were turned away. They only will rent if everyone entering has a Colombian cedula. Fortunately, Suites 44 is just a block away and they had no problem renting me a room.

Yesterday evening met up with last week's 3 some for a repeat. Decided to try Kuboz Suites on Carrera 33. They also insisted that everyone must have a Colombian cedula. Flagged down another taxi and went back to Ibiza.

If you use love motels, save yourself some frustration and check with the motel first.Can you please clarify the problems you had at the Love Motels regarding the Cedulas. I am assuming that your girl had a Cedula and you don't. Did you present them with a copy of your Passport and they still would not allow you in?

What did the flyers say about trafficking? If you have a copy can you post it.

Were these hotels only in Laureles or in other locations that rejected you?

Although I have a Colombian Cedula, I have never been asked to show it at any of the Love Motels I frequent in EL Centro.

If all of the Love Hotels start requiring Cedulas for entrance due to some new decree, that's going to be issue for a lot of guys.

Any information you can provide would be helpful to others.

Surfer500
07-19-19, 19:51
I sent a whatsapp message asking for the address and in return received that as well as the 3rd degree!:

Direccion: Carrera 47 # 59 - 10. Sucre con Cuba. Sector Villa Nueva. Centro de Medellin.

Hay tres parqueaderos afuera. Fcil parqueo. si eres malo para las direcciones. Un taxi te deja en toda la puerta.

Antes de empezar hacer cualquier tipo de preguntas por favor lea esto detenidamente para no hacer preguntas que no vienen al caso:.This is bizarre please translate what your getting for your money besides free entrance, no sending photos or videos or chatting, and that they are waiting for you with three parking spaces out front and are closed on Sundays and Holidays.

Big Boss Man
07-19-19, 22:14
I found this post on the website of a hotel I have used.

https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fmotelthematicsuites%2Fposts%2F1321010498064566&width=500

Brooklyn658
07-19-19, 22:18
Quick question. I'll be in Medellin come October does Hotel Nutibara have an ATM on the premises or is there one close by?

Mr Enternational
07-19-19, 22:22
This is bizarre please translate what your getting for your money besides free entrance, no sending photos or videos or chatting, and that they are waiting for you with three parking spaces out front and are closed on Sundays and Holidays.There are 3 parking lots outside close to to place, so there is ample parking. 40K for 30 min or 60K for 1 hour. The whatsapp number was only to send you directions (if you can't find it from that, they said take a taxi). They don't want you begging for pictures or videos or trying to chat on the whatsapp number.

Knowledge
07-20-19, 00:03
There is nothing new about this place except their latest advertising tactic. It seems to be working because here we are talking about it. It is known as 'balcones de Cuba'. Search that name on this forum for all the particulars. Barcelona is very close. I'm not big on either venue but of course YMMV. I look forward to reading the latest from new visitors.


I sent a whatsapp message asking for the address and in return received that as well as the 3rd degree!:

Direccion: Carrera 47 # 59 - 10. Sucre con Cuba. Sector Villa Nueva. Centro de Medellin.

Hay tres parqueaderos afuera. Fcil parqueo. si eres malo para las direcciones. Un taxi te deja en toda la puerta.

Antes de empezar hacer cualquier tipo de preguntas por favor lea esto detenidamente para no hacer preguntas que no vienen al caso:

Knowledge
07-20-19, 00:09
C'Mon. Surf, you know what's happening here. There has been political pressure on the Laureles motels for years. There are business and political interests who hate the explosion of motels and bars with backrooms that we like over the past 10 years. I think we both know you are not going to see this policy in Centro short time places.


Can you please clarify the problems you had at the Love Motels regarding the Cedulas. I am assuming that your girl had a Cedula and you don't. Did you present them with a copy of your Passport and they still would not allow you in?

What did the flyers say about trafficking? If you have a copy can you post it.

Were these hotels only in Laureles or in other locations that rejected you?

Although I have a Colombian Cedula, I have never been asked to show it at any of the Love Motels I frequent in EL Centro.

If all of the Love Hotels start requiring Cedulas for entrance due to some new decree, that's going to be issue for a lot of guys.

Any information you can provide would be helpful to others.

Surfer500
07-20-19, 00:12
I found this post on the website of a hotel I have used.

https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fmotelthematicsuites%2Fposts%2F1321010498064566&width=500It's been my experience that Hotels that also rent rooms short time besides long term (a day or more) will ask for an ID / Cedula whereas for a few hours don't typically ask for an ID.

Surfer500
07-20-19, 00:22
There are 3 parking lots outside close to to place, so there is ample parking. 40K for 30 min or 60K for 1 hour. The whatsapp number was only to send you directions (if you can't find it from that, they said take a taxi). They don't want you begging for pictures or videos or trying to chat on the whatsapp number.Thanks Mr. E, so this is a casa so know I understand as it wasn't clear to me what the information was related to.

You would think some of these casa's would have websites with this information along with photo's and directions. Maybe some of them do in Medellin but I wouldn't know, however if I ran a casa in Medellin I would have one for sure, but perhaps the casa owners don't have them for other reasons.

Jbj64
07-20-19, 01:23
I have met a girl on Col Cupid that worked on Camsoda, she said she made very little money and was going to stop. Never heard of the myfreecams, have watched one other free cam site. She said there are tons of colombians and Paisas on Camsoda and I do see alot. I agree with JJbee I bet you have to tip alot and / or send presents, I am too cheap when I can watch free porn or go to MDE and see real women for not much more than a few hours of tokens.


Myfreecams is the most difficult webcam site for a model to make money on. If she's making money on MFC, she's earning the equivalent of $200 k US per year, minimum. If she's ranked in the top 250, bump that up to $350 k US. That's working less than 20 hours per week.

In addition, 9 out of 10 Colombian webcam models are working for a studio. That means every PM you send, every tip note, is also being read by the studio's monitor.

The studio is going to frown on their model hooking on the side and the model doesn't want to take a pay cut to deal with a sweaty gringo.

You have 3 options, 2 are expensive.

1. Become her top tipper. Every single show, spend $300+ on tips. Send her presents, expensive ones. Be sweet and polite. Make her laugh. Never unload your problems on her. If you do everything right, after spending $50-$100 k over 12 months, she might be willing to have lunch with you. Then if you really impress her, you might, after several dates, get her in bed with you.

2. There's an MFC model who sells 1 week vacations with her. It costs 100,000 tokens in a single tip ($8,000). She picks the destination, you pay all the expenses. Figure on spending another $10 k minimum. There's no guarantee of sex, but your chances are good. I've met her and she's definitely drop-dead gorgeous.

3. Connect with girls through Facebook. Chat with them. Tell them you like webcams. Chances are good you'll find one who tried webcam, but didn't make any money.

JjBee62
07-20-19, 01:34
I have met a girl on Col Cupid that worked on Camsoda, she said she made very little money and was going to stop. Never heard of the myfreecams, have watched one other free cam site. She said there are tons of colombians and Paisas on Camsoda and I do see alot. I agree with JJbee I bet you have to tip alot and / or send presents, I am too cheap when I can watch free porn or go to MDE and see real women for not much more than a few hours of tokens.Camsoda has an exclusive contract with AJ studios in Colombia. I worked with a Camsoda model and we had to give 5% of her tips directly to them. They're a huge outfit. Worldwide.

Surfer500
07-20-19, 07:44
C'Mon. Surf, you know what's happening here. There has been political pressure on the Laureles motels for years. There are business and political interests who hate the explosion of motels and bars with backrooms that we like over the past 10 years. I think we both know you are not going to see this policy in Centro short time places.I don't know much about Laureles as I have only been there a few times.

Are you saying that the Motel owners are being asked to only rent rooms to persons with Cedulas. So this means a foreigner with a Passport cannot rent a room, or only if overnight?

Sounds a bit extreme if that is what is happening.

Perhaps JB2 can shed a little more light on the situation as posed by my questions in an earlier post.

World Travel 69
07-20-19, 20:21
Thanks, but it is on the Map and list.


I sent a whatsapp message asking for the address and in return received that as well as the 3rd degree!:

Direccion: Carrera 47 # 59 - 10. Sucre con Cuba. Sector Villa Nueva. Centro de Medellin.

Hay tres parqueaderos afuera. Fcil parqueo. si eres malo para las direcciones. Un taxi te deja en toda la puerta.

Antes de empezar hacer cualquier tipo de preguntas por favor lea esto detenidamente para no hacer preguntas que no vienen al caso:

El servicio es solo en la sede. Repetimos.

El servicio es SOLO en la sede. El servicio via WhatsApp, es solo para una informacion basica.

No es para mandar fotos, ni chatear, ni mucho menos mandar videos. Repetimos.

No es para mandar fotos, ni chatear, ni mucho menos mandar videos. Es solo para esta informacion basica.

Tarifas:
Media Hora: $ 40.000., Una Hora: $ 60.000.

Horarios:
Lunes a Sabados. 10:30 am a 7:00 pm. Ni Domingos, ni Festivos.

Tanto como el personal, como la clientela, es a partir de 18 aos LOGICAMENTE! NO podemos dar mas informaciand por este medio.

Por favor. No mas Preguntas. Repetimos. NO podemos dar mas informacion por este medio. Por favor. No mas Preguntas!! Todos LOS detalles o cualquier otra pregunta. SOLO personalmente sin ningun compromiso.

La entrada es gratis. TE ESPERAMOS! Repetimos. NO SE MANDAN FOTOSSSS!!

BlueChange
07-20-19, 20:27
Question: Have anybody here ever successfully gotten a session from a girl they met on Myfreecams? I ask because it's pretty much all Colombians in the South American section and so many hot chicas who we can clearly see how they look via cam, so no worries of outdated photos. I keep getting turned down when I ask to visit them in Colombia, do none of these girls trick on the side in your guy's experience?I had two experience with MFC.

The first one the girl was new and a pot head. She was on her firends who I was actually obsessed with. She met me at santa fe commercial for lunch,. She was cool, we ate ice cream after and made out. I think I saw her agian but we didn't fuck. She was doing it sort of just figing things out but I did find out more info about her friend. It was cool but I just never followed thru.

The other one was a STUNNER 19 yo that lived in Bogota. I sent her 100 and she met me in person in Bogota with her cousin who also was on cam. Her english was perfect and she was saying money to get her ass done. She had a beautful face and nice tits but a flat ass. She was like 5 7 too. Anyway. She came to my apartment and said she wanted to borrow moeny for the surgery. I didn't pay but we did make out and fuck. The sex was ok but I did get to cum on her face.

In my opinion, pulling a girl from MFC is possible but it requires a lot of effort and there is no guarentee. I think it is mostly Ego. Like you can do it then you feel like speicla cause not many girls will met offline. I guess I am good at persuasion because it takes a lot of messages ans trust to be built. Also if you try to go for a girl, you got to get her when she is new before she knows about the game and all that. It is possible but you know good luck,. You are better off with photoprepago or something.

Knowledge
07-20-19, 20:34
Yes there is an ATM in the Nutibara and there are several nearby.


Quick question. I'll be in Medellin come October does Hotel Nutibara have an ATM on the premises or is there one close by?

Knowledge
07-20-19, 21:01
That is the deal basically. Neighborhood and business leaders have been speaking out against rising crime in Laureles in the media the past few years. They recently began zeroing in on the huge increase in motels around Laureles. The theme of the editorials is pretty similar to the blowback against the Lleras scene. The motels are seen as both symptoms and causes of increased sex tourism, drug trade, noise and general family unfriendliness. The cedula crackdown is a tactic to rein in what's viewed as uncontrolled honky tonk expansion in what has traditionally been a quiet residential area, except for the foreigner infested la 70/ Avenida Nutibara axis of course. I don't think even the most reactionary conservative puritan imagines there is a way to turn the tide in Centro. The thought of one of the short time places around Veracruz turning somebody away for lack of a Colombian cedula, or even asking for any ID to begin with makes me smile.


I don't know much about Laureles as I have only been there a few times.

Are you saying that the Motel owners are being asked to only rent rooms to persons with Cedulas. So this means a foreigner with a Passport cannot rent a room, or only if overnight?

Sounds a bit extreme if that is what is happening.

Perhaps JB2 can shed a little more light on the situation as posed by my questions in an earlier post.

Fun Luvr
07-21-19, 01:22
The cedula crackdown is a tactic to rein in what's viewed as uncontrolled honky tonk expansion in what has traditionally been a quiet residential area, except for the foreigner infested la 70/ Avenida Nutibara axis of course.At any time, day or night, if someone walks from UPB to the metro station, I doubt they will see 2% foreigners among all the people on LA 70. Avenida Nutibara will have a few more foreigners because it goes through the first and second parks area. LA 70 is a playground for the locals.

Knowledge
07-21-19, 05:05
I am a Centro rat. To me it seems like a lot of foreigners.


At any time, day or night, if someone walks from UPB to the metro station, I doubt they will see 2% foreigners among all the people on LA 70. Avenida Nutibara will have a few more foreigners because it goes through the first and second parks area. LA 70 is a playground for the locals.

Orgasmico
07-21-19, 05:40
except for the foreigner infested la 70/ Avenida Nutibara axis of courseI used to enjoy La 70 but I don't go near there anymore.

Balboa
07-21-19, 08:11
The thought of one of the short time places around Veracruz turning somebody away for lack of a Colombian cedula, or even asking for any ID to begin with makes me smile.Well, keep smiling then.

There's at least a couple of the short time motels on Veracruz that do and have been checking Cedulas for a while.

Also, got turned away by a few motels in el Centro with my Venezolana, because she only had a Venezuelan Cedula.

JjBee62
07-21-19, 12:53
I don't know much about Laureles as I have only been there a few times.

Are you saying that the Motel owners are being asked to only rent rooms to persons with Cedulas. So this means a foreigner with a Passport cannot rent a room, or only if overnight?

Sounds a bit extreme if that is what is happening.

Perhaps JB2 can shed a little more light on the situation as posed by my questions in an earlier post.Well, I tried. Apparently answering your questions and posting photos of the flyer that is being handed out at Motel Ibiza violates some obscure site rule, because the post has either been blocked by one of the admins, or abducted by aliens.

I'll try a short and sweet response.

2 Love Motels in Laureles specified that every person is required to have a Colombian cedula in order to rent a room from them. They weren't interested in my passport. They were also rather rude by Colombian standards.

My opinion is that this is part of a push back against sex tourism.

Black Page
07-21-19, 15:32
Well, keep smiling then.
There's at least a couple of the short time motels on Veracruz that do and have been checking Cedulas for a while..You must have spent quite a lot of your time to find them... (Smiling trying to show all upper and lower teeth like only Jim Carrey can do)

Big Boss Man
07-21-19, 16:38
Well, keep smiling then.

There's at least a couple of the short time motels on Veracruz that do and have been checking Cedulas for a while.

Also, got turned away by a few motels in el Centro with my Venezolana, because she only had a Venezuelan Cedula.I chatted with the Kuboz reception yesterday and they wrote back that an American passport meets the ID requirement. But JJBee4 posted that they would not rent a room to him. Is it the chicas ID that is causing the problem or is it the American passport? Is policy being enforced arbitrarily?

In the meantime I was cruising Mileroticos yesterday in preparation and it seems that new erotic places are opening since last August. The Blue Room seems to have upgraded. I think it was closed for a time. It is open 24 hours now.

https://casablueroom.com/contactenos/

TriFreak
07-21-19, 17:02
I just booked at Hotel Torre Poblado. Hope its chica friendly I'm sure it is it was recommended to me by a FB girl. Any board members traveling to Medellin the last week of August and want to link up. I should be getting my membership in a day or so I'm fluent in Spanish hmu.

Margaya
07-21-19, 17:07
I have been wanting to scope out Medellin for past few years but always stopped short because I hate brotal sex and that pretty seem to be the only option in medellin.

Or at least whenever I looked it up.

Are things any better?

And why we can't discuss about hotel M any more at this place?

Wolf662
07-21-19, 18:07
I have been wanting to scope out Medellin for past few years but always stopped short because I hate brotal sex and that pretty seem to be the only option in medellin.

Or at least whenever I looked it up.

Are things any better?

And why we can't discuss about hotel M any more at this place?In my 4 trips to MED in the last 2 years I have only been in Casa's like twice. I hit the street chicks and strip clubs, find a couple I like and meet them later after a test drive for dinner and my hotel fun.

I do peek in Yakuza which is sort of a Casa but always take the girl across the street to my hotel.

Mr Enternational
07-21-19, 18:11
I have been wanting to scope out Medellin for past few years but always stopped short because I hate brotal sex and that pretty seem to be the only option in medellin.

Or at least whenever I looked it up.

Are things any better?

And why we can't discuss about hotel M any more at this place?Seems you have not been reading the forum. Most reports here do not talk about going to brothels. Most talk about freelancers. Why would you want to discuss Hotel M since that is pretty much a brothel and you said you hate brothel sex?

Balboa
07-21-19, 19:34
You must have spent quite a lot of your time to find them... (Smiling trying to show all upper and lower teeth like only Jim Carrey can do)Hmmm, you can't be this dumb, can you?

The little shit hole, back bar rooms on Veracruz of course aren't going to ask for ID.

A couple of the better motels out there, yes, on Veracruz, which have nicer rooms, and can be rented for 3 hours, do require a cédula from the girl.

They're not hard to find, unless you're a moron.

(Smiling a Jim Carrey back at you).

Fun Luvr
07-21-19, 19:52
I just booked at Hotel Torre Poblado. Hope its chica friendly I'm sure it is it was recommended to me by a FB girl. Any board members traveling to Medellin the last week of August and want to link up. I should be getting my membership in a day or so I'm fluent in Spanish hmu.Check this post about Hotel Torre: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2654-Medellin-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments&p=2214402&viewfull=1#post2214402. It is almost a year old, but it appears that hotel may not be so chica friendly.

TriFreak
07-21-19, 20:33
Good looking out Fun Luvr! I think I'm going to call them since I speak Spanish I'll make it crystal clear what my intentions are and make it very clear my business goes else where if there's chica fees involved or if its a hassle for them to accommodate. Also if anyone has a definite chica friendly hotel that's nice and checks IDs please help a brother out.

Thanks again for the heads up.


Check this post about Hotel Torre: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2654-Medellin-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments&p=2214402&viewfull=1#post2214402. It is almost a year old, but it appears that hotel may not be so chica friendly.

Surfer500
07-21-19, 20:49
Well, keep smiling then.

There's at least a couple of the short time motels on Veracruz that do and have been checking Cedulas for a while.

Also, got turned away by a few motels in el Centro with my Venezolana, because she only had a Venezuelan Cedula.My experience with Cedulas in El Centro has been as follows:

If you want to rent a room short time, and the Chica you are with looks young, they typically will ask to see the Chicas Cedula. I have had this happen to me on numerous occasions, even with some of my regulars who are thirty.

At Hotel Zona Rosa about six months agp, reception actually took a photo of one of my Chicas Cedula because the police had come by one time and alleged that the Hotel was allowing Chicas in that shouldn't be allowed due to their apparent young age which wasn't the case.

Surfer500
07-21-19, 21:09
Well, I tried. Apparently answering your questions and posting photos of the flyer that is being handed out at Motel Ibiza violates some obscure site rule, because the post has either been blocked by one of the admins, or abducted by aliens.

I'll try a short and sweet response.

2 Love Motels in Laureles specified that every person is required to have a Colombian cedula in order to rent a room from them. They weren't interested in my passport. They were also rather rude by Colombian standards.

My opinion is that this is part of a push back against sex tourism.This confirms what Knowledge said in his post.

It makes you wonder what kind of pressure is being put on these Motels to turn away business for them.

So it's okay for the Colombians to use these two Love Motels, but not foreigners who don't have Cedulas but Passports.

Somebody with a lot of political power in Laureles has really come down hard on these Love Motels.

And for these establishments to also be rude about it as well is astonishing given that Colombians generally are very formal and polite.

Thanks for the response.

JjBee62
07-21-19, 22:02
I chatted with the Kuboz reception yesterday and they wrote back that an American passport meets the ID requirement. But JJBee4 posted that they would not rent a room to him. Is it the chicas ID that is causing the problem or is it the American passport? Is policy being enforced arbitrarily?

In the meantime I was cruising Mileroticos yesterday in preparation and it seems that new erotic places are opening since last August. The Blue Room seems to have upgraded. I think it was closed for a time. It is open 24 hours now.

https://casablueroom.com/contactenos/Kuboz did not even look at IDs. They asked if everyone had a Colombian cedula. Both girls said yes. I said I had my passport and the girl at the desk said only a Colombian cedula was accepted. Both girls were dressed conservatively because they had come directly from their job in a retail store.

JjBee62
07-21-19, 22:17
I have been wanting to scope out Medellin for past few years but always stopped short because I hate brotal sex and that pretty seem to be the only option in medellin.

Or at least whenever I looked it up.

Are things any better?

And why we can't discuss about hotel M any more at this place?Who said you can't discuss Hotel M? Not much to discuss. Not much changes, but you're welcome to discuss it.

When were casas the only option in Medellin? I'm pretty sure the street walkers have been there for a very long time. Some of the individual streetwalkers look like they've been working the area for 30 years.

I got home from Medellin last night and didn't visit a single brothel. I considered it but just didn't see any reason.

If you read the forum you'll find about 3,000 posts talking about Facebook girls. Add in another thousand or so talking about Colombian Cupid, Seeking Arrangements and Tinder. Then there's strip clubs, escort services, bar girls, free Lancers.

Krypto Knight
07-21-19, 22:42
has traditionally been a quiet residential area, except for the foreigner infested la 70/ Avenida Nutibara axis of course.You haven't been to LA 70 recently apparently. I've been staying here a week. I haven't see a single American, almost no white people, maybe a handful of Europeans (Less then 10 total in a week) It seems to be a bar area for locals.

Black Page
07-21-19, 23:16
They're not hard to find, unless you're a moron.
(Smiling a Jim Carrey back at you).Sure 100%. IF one wants to find them. The point is that I am not so moron to look for those two, which must be quite special in the area.

(now the smile is of Jack Nicholson / Joker vs. Batman).

BTW, if I want a good motel, I go to Ibiza at Itagui, and they never asked my ID until 2 years ago (last time I visited).

Knowledge
07-21-19, 23:48
I think you nailed it.




2 Love Motels in Laureles specified that every person is required to have a Colombian cedula in order to rent a room from them. They weren't interested in my passport. They were also rather rude by Colombian standards.

My opinion is that this is part of a push back against sex tourism.

Orgasmico
07-22-19, 00:32
You haven't been to LA 70 recently apparently. I've been staying here a week. I haven't see a single American, almost no white people, maybe a handful of Europeans (Less then 10 total in a week) It seems to be a bar area for locals.I just left La 70 10 minutes ago. I know a gringo staying there for 2 weeks. Sat at cosechas drinking a smoothies and an old gringo sat right in front of me at the coffee shop. Saw several gringos walk by and saw some others buying a futbol shirt since everyone is wearing one for todays game. I was only there for a half hour so I'm sure I didn't see them all, like yourself, for instance.

JjBee62
07-22-19, 00:34
You haven't been to LA 70 recently apparently. I've been staying here a week. I haven't see a single American, almost no white people, maybe a handful of Europeans (Less then 10 total in a week) It seems to be a bar area for locals.While I wouldn't call Laureles infested with gringos, there definitely are some. I was just there (twice) on Friday and saw gringos. There are quite a few expats that live there. Quite a few white people too. Even saw 2 white Europeans on the metro headed to Laureles. I might not have noticed them except they got on at San Antonio station and were asking if the train was going towards Laureles. For those who aren't familiar with the metro, Line be begins at San Antonio. It can only go one direction from there.

All bar areas are bar areas for locals. Tourists tend to congregate at Parque Lleras, but they're not hard to find at La 70.

Knowledge
07-22-19, 01:42
You are disputing comments based on a whole week of observations.

Let me come at it from a different direction with this rhetorical question. Does anyone honestly believe there is a Starbucks on Avenida Nutibara to satisfy the demands of local Colombians?


I just left La 70 10 minutes ago. I know a gringo staying there for 2 weeks. Sat at cosechas drinking a smoothies and an old gringo sat right in front of me at the coffee shop. Saw several gringos walk by and saw some others buying a futbol shirt since everyone is wearing one for todays game. I was only there for a half hour so I'm sure I didn't see them all, like yourself, for instance.

Balboa
07-22-19, 03:16
Sure 100%. IF one wants to find them. The point is that I am not so moron to look for those two, which must be quite special in the area.

(now the smile is of Jack Nicholson / Joker vs. Batman).

BTW, if I want a good motel, I go to Ibiza at Itagui, and they never asked my ID until 2 years ago (last time I visited).Whatever dude.

Yes, I do like a nicer room, and if I find a sweet girl, I like longer than a 20 min bang at the shit hole rooms on Veracruz.
If that’s your thing, Great for you.

I been at this for years.

BTW, I went to Motel Ibiza twice last week.
They do ask to see the girl's ID.
Venezuelan Cédula was good enough.

I’m not usually going to take a first time girl there though.
That’s after I’ve seen we have good chemistry and a good 6 hours or more together would be fun and worth it.

JjBee62
07-22-19, 03:21
BTW, I went to Motel Ibiza twice last week.So that was you I heard? Damn!

JjBee62
07-22-19, 03:56
Time for some lessons learned.

1. Have contingency plans for everything. For instance, getting blocked from a love motel could have messed me up twice. However, I knew where else I could go.

2. Trust your instincts. I knew that trying the 3 some again with the same girls was a mistake. First time was pretty good. Second time was a disappointment. Although the one girl brought me a nice bottle of cologne for a present.

3. Repeating with old favorites isn't always a good idea. Seek more new talent instead of going for someone comfortable.

4. Move with purpose. If you're wandering aimlessly you attract the wrong kind of attention. It also leaves you unprepared in case of a situation. Be aware without being paranoid and most people won't give you a second look.

5. Chicago is a horrible port of entry. Took 2. 5 hours to get through the line to clear customs and immigration, and I was basically waved through.

6. Don't trust the exchange rate the ATM displays. Even with my bank's fees I got a better rate than the one displayed by Davivienda.

7. Free stuff is sometimes more expensive than paying elsewhere. My free apartment cost about $350 in taxis, Uber and Love Motels. It also limited my flexibility and cut down on my willingness to go out. I don't like the idea of taking a taxi for a trip that's under a mile, but I dislike climbing a hill that's got a 25% slope. The one bonus, the girl who bled all over the sheets didn't ruin my friend's mattress.

8. Don't hesitate to meet up with other mongers when you get the chance. You may not click, but you can always learn something.

9. Enjoy everything to the maximum extent possible. Don't worry about the little things. You're in one of the most beautiful countries with some of the most beautiful women. Surely you can find something to smile about.

10. Try new things. My best experience was getting an overpriced handjob at a legit spa. Twice. I'm still amazed at those tits.

Enjoy it while you can.

Big Boss Man
07-22-19, 19:46
Kuboz did not even look at IDs. They asked if everyone had a Colombian cedula. Both girls said yes. I said I had my passport and the girl at the desk said only a Colombian cedula was accepted. Both girls were dressed conservatively because they had come directly from their job in a retail store.It looks like I will spending my time at the casas, private apartments and massage rooms like I did in the old days. I did Tinder girls and Vanessa's girls last trip. I rather liked the short-term motels because of the bar service and security. I would bring my own backpack with toys, personal hygiene, condoms and lube.

Member #2001
07-22-19, 19:48
Time for some lessons learned.



5. Chicago is a horrible port of entry. Took 2. 5 hours to get through the line to clear customs and immigration, and I was basically waved through.



Enjoy it while you can.How did you go from MDE to ORD, or did you go through another country? Last time I came from Periera to Chicago, I came through Panama and it was the quickest I have ever gotten through customs.

FortuneWaffers
07-22-19, 20:26
It looks like I will spending my time at the casas, private apartments and massage rooms like I did in the old days. I did Tinder girls and Vanessa's girls last trip. I rather liked the short-term motels because of the bar service and security. I would bring my own backpack with toys, personal hygiene, condoms and lube.Well. Are these limitations city-wide? Like is every love-motel turning down gringos now?

Also, what is usually done? Do ya'll find the hoe on the street after negotiate acts and price bring to the closest love motel or do ya'll preemptively get a love motel for 6 hours (the whole 10 USD or whatever it is) then go hunting for puta's in the general vicinity? The latter options seem to be much more my preference, kinda like turning the motel room into a mini-brothel with street hoes of my choice.

JjBee62
07-22-19, 21:26
How did you go from MDE to ORD, or did you go through another country? Last time I came from Periera to Chicago, I came through Panama and it was the quickest I have ever gotten through customs.Through Mexico City on AeroMexico. I was quite pleased with AeroMexico. Mexico City airport wasn't impressive. Not enough bathrooms.

Maybe my timing was just bad at Chicago, because there was a line over 200 yards long just to get to the maze leading to the scanner machines.

Villainy
07-22-19, 21:30
Im not usually going to take a first time girl there though.
Thats after Ive seen we have good chemistry and a good 6 hours or more together would be fun and worth it.Interesting! I have a somewhat opposite view. I tend to take my first time "friends" to a love hotel. A few of the ones I remember (Thematic Suites on Calle 34) are not terribly expensive 50 M pesos for 4 hours and very clean.

When you are both inside the door locks electronically and you have to be "checked out" (so they can verify the mini-bar for purchases).

My idea is that I don't want to take a new acquaintance to my hotel so that she knows where I'm staying and maybe tries to use the rob you drug. Not going to happen in the "Love Hotel". Once I've met her and.

We've spent some time together and there is a degree of comfort, then I might happily have her to my hotel for a time or a night or whatever. I don't think I'm paranoid, I hope it is just being careful.

Guido88
07-22-19, 22:50
Points 1-10 are all good advice anywhere.

#11 should be get Global Entry.

I tired of being fondled by the TSA every time I flew due to a software glitch in normal security lanes. Returning to the USA prior to Global Entry it was more like 2 hours, 7 lines and had to run for the next flight that I damn near missed. With Global Entry my last entry customs, immigration, and recheck back thru security took all of 7 minutes. Plus you can use it in Canada, Mexico & some countries in Europe. Best $100 you will ever spend.

Best.

Guido88.

Coupe66
07-23-19, 00:09
Had a great session yesterday. Took a friend visiting Meddy to a casa, it is a place with a blue door and they don't have fliers. Anyway, there were several chicas and one that came out would not let go of my hand when we shook hands. She was really cute, big full lips, big ass, small waist, big tits and triguea complexion. Kept smiling at me while holding my hand and had a perfect smile and positive energy so I chose her.

For those looking for something different, I'm sharing this flyer I was handed yesterday. Maybe one of you chaps can try it and report back.Where is the Casa you're talking about? You didn't mention that. And is that flier from that Casa, or somewhere else?

Big Boss Man
07-23-19, 00:10
Well. Are these limitations city-wide? Like is every love-motel turning down gringos now?

Also, what is usually done? Do ya'll find the hoe on the street after negotiate acts and price bring to the closest love motel or do ya'll preemptively get a love motel for 6 hours (the whole 10 USD or whatever it is) then go hunting for puta's in the general vicinity? The latter options seem to be much more my preference, kinda like turning the motel room into a mini-brothel with street hoes of my choice.There is something called Vanny's list. I was making arrangements to have the girls meet me at the motel. Only 1 out of 3 was quality. However I ended up going with her on three dates. Also Vanny's List is more expensive than do-it-yourself methods. The other option is to have a chica visit from the known massage rooms.

https://www.fantasiasenergy.com/p/servicios.html

https://www.orientalspa.co/tratamientos

I typically don't do street chicas. Last trip I did not even go down to Central but I have been there on previous trips. Downtown I think I am 1 for 5 all-time but because it is cheaper you can afford the misses. I am limited because I don't speak Spanish.

Balboa
07-23-19, 02:02
Interesting! I have a somewhat opposite view. I tend to take my first time "friends" to a love hotel. A few of the ones I remember (Thematic Suites on Calle 34) are not terribly expensive 50 M pesos for 4 hours and very clean.

When you are both inside the door locks electronically and you have to be "checked out" (so they can verify the mini-bar for purchases).

My idea is that I don't want to take a new acquaintance to my hotel so that she knows where I'm staying and maybe tries to use the rob you drug. Not going to happen in the "Love Hotel". Once I've met her and.

We've spent some time together and there is a degree of comfort, then I might happily have her to my hotel for a time or a night or whatever. I don't think I'm paranoid, I hope it is just being careful.Uhhh yeah, I was referring to not taking them on a first "date" to the nicer Love motel such as Ibiza for 6 hours.

I almost always will take them to one of the Love motels in el Centro on a first date.

SankarShetty
07-23-19, 03:04
Time for some lessons learned.

6. Don't trust the exchange rate the ATM displays. Even with my bank's fees I got a better rate than the one displayed by Davivienda.Despite extensive prep for my newbie trip last year, I only realized the ATM exchange issues after the trip. Thanks for including this in your lessons learned.

PussyRiot
07-23-19, 03:24
Time for some lessons learned.

8. Don't hesitate to meet up with other mongers when you get the chance. You may not click, but you can always learn something.

9. Enjoy everything to the maximum extent possible. Don't worry about the little things. You're in one of the most beautiful countries with some of the most beautiful women. Surely you can find something to smile about.

10. Try new things. My best experience was getting an overpriced handjob at a legit spa. Twice. I'm still amazed at those tits.

Enjoy it while you can.Great feedback. Tomorrow is not promised and got to enjoy the moment.

There is so much talk about what price people pay but enjoyment is what matters and can't complaint while dollar is so strong.

Just on the side note, visited Fase Dos recently and their rate increased from 190 k to 220 k. LOL.

PussyRiot
07-23-19, 03:26
#11 should be get Global Entry.

Best $100 you will ever spend.

Best.

Guido88.Some travel credit card reimburse the $100 for global entry payment as well.

JjBee62
07-23-19, 05:31
Well. Are these limitations city-wide? Like is every love-motel turning down gringos now?

Also, what is usually done? Do ya'll find the hoe on the street after negotiate acts and price bring to the closest love motel or do ya'll preemptively get a love motel for 6 hours (the whole 10 USD or whatever it is) then go hunting for puta's in the general vicinity? The latter options seem to be much more my preference, kinda like turning the motel room into a mini-brothel with street hoes of my choice.While I can't speak for the El Centro love motels, most are single entry and exit. The only exception was Suites 44 in Laureles. That one you pay in advance, 40 k for 4 hours, and you get a key.

The rest, they assign a room and you're locked in until you pay. Time varies, up to 6 hours. Prices vary as well. Motel Ibiza is probably the most expensive at around 100 k for 6 hours. There's several places in Mayorista that are 17 k for 1 hour.

Surfer500
07-23-19, 09:47
Well. Are these limitations city-wide? Like is every love-motel turning down gringos now?

Also, what is usually done? Do ya'll find the hoe on the street after negotiate acts and price bring to the closest love motel or do ya'll preemptively get a love motel for 6 hours (the whole 10 USD or whatever it is) then go hunting for puta's in the general vicinity? The latter options seem to be much more my preference, kinda like turning the motel room into a mini-brothel with street hoes of my choice.You can go either way, but the second route will be harder as you would have to rent the room for overnight and then confirm that you can have multiple Chicas with no extra fee, and all of the Chicas will have to have Cedulas. I used to do this at Premium Plaza Hotel many years ago, but their guest policies may have changed.

Seeing that your a rookie with the El Centro street scene based on your post, I believe your issue is going to be finding an acceptable Puta to go with which may take you some time, especially with limited Spanish speaking skills.

So if you find yourself a Hoe, she can recommend a short time Love Motel which may range from anywhere from approximately 6 K to 22 K. Be warned that you probably won't like the lower priced Love Motels as they can be quite dirty.

Good Luck and be very careful, mongering in El Centro is for seasoned monger's with Spanish speaking skills.

LeyenLouvain
07-23-19, 15:51
While I can't speak for the El Centro love motels, most are single entry and exit. The only exception was Suites 44 in Laureles. That one you pay in advance, 40 k for 4 hours, and you get a key.

The rest, they assign a room and you're locked in until you pay. Time varies, up to 6 hours. Prices vary as well. Motel Ibiza is probably the most expensive at around 100 k for 6 hours. There's several places in Mayorista that are 17 k for 1 hour.Motel Ibiza seems to have different tariffs depending on whether you arrive by Taxi, Pie, Moto or Carro. Why is this?

Also the additional person charge of 17 k. Is the base tariff of 96 k based on just 1 person?

Thanks. I am very grateful for the level of detail in your posts.

Surfer500
07-23-19, 16:08
While I can't speak for the El Centro love motels, most are single entry and exit. The only exception was Suites 44 in Laureles. That one you pay in advance, 40 k for 4 hours, and you get a key.

The rest, they assign a room and you're locked in until you pay. Time varies, up to 6 hours. Prices vary as well. Motel Ibiza is probably the most expensive at around 100 k for 6 hours. There's several places in Mayorista that are 17 k for 1 hour.El Centro Love Motels around the Veracruz Church / Botero Area don't lock people in their rooms until they pay.

They take payment before they give you a key and write down the time you arrived. Length of room time varies from Hotel to Hotel but typically is a minimum of an hour or two, except at the 6 K motels, which allow less time. Regardless, when your time is up they will knock at the door and let you know. Higher end Love Motels around the Veracruz Church / Botero area include Premium Plaza and Hotel Zona Rosa. I have three other Hotels I use in the area behind the Veracruz Church depending on the Chica pick up location.

FortuneWaffers
07-23-19, 19:22
You can go either way, but the second route will be harder as you would have to rent the room for overnight and then confirm that you can have multiple Chicas with no extra fee, and all of the Chicas will have to have Cedulas. I used to do this at Premium Plaza Hotel many years ago, but their guest policies may have changed.

Seeing that your a rookie with the El Centro street scene based on your post, I believe your issue is going to be finding an acceptable Puta to go with which may take you some time, especially with limited Spanish speaking skills.

So if you find yourself a Hoe, she can recommend a short time Love Motel which may range from anywhere from approximately 6 K to 22 K. Be warned that you probably won't like the lower priced Love Motels as they can be quite dirty.

Good Luck and be very careful, mongering in El Centro is for seasoned monger's with Spanish speaking skills.Thanks. I realize that my fascination with these street working girls I a cause to raise concern for a noob like me. I am prolly just going to hire a tour guide and make him fill in the language gaps of me trying to locate a *****. My standards are not high, as I said before, she the hoe offers anal, a 4-6 girl turns into a 6-8 girl instantly. I have never had the pleasure to a fuck a street hoe fresh off the sweaty streets. Its been on my bucket list.

PolloNegro
07-23-19, 19:50
I have no idea what other mongers are seeing or doing, but I've been in Medellin since Friday July 19 and I will leave on Friday July 26. Centro is cheaper than ever, I should know I made nearly 18 trips last year and I stay at the same place each trip. This trip my only complaint was the price of my ticket which was like $450 when I can usually do $278. What I will tell you is this, I stayed at a hotel of my liking and the rate dropped from about $105 mil pesos to about $48 mil pesos daily. I thought that was strange but I didn't question it. My main reason for the trip was dental related and the cost of the dental paid for the trip and mongering on the USA price period. I had 2 root canals and a tooth broke and I only spent $135 usd. Now back to Centro and Parque Botero and Vera Cruz. The price of the girls have dropped significantly, the Venezuelans are truly running the show and in a good way at that. I have banged no less than 5 girls everyday and not spent more than $300 mil daily, that's really awesome. I learned on my last trip which was in June, but I went to Bogota and came to Medellin for 3 days out of my 10 day trip, that if you go to Parque Botero at 6:45 am -7:30 am the Venezuelans are already lining up and ready to go. I primarily had citas with vennies this trip and I have no complaints. The going rates for "rato" a short time such as 45-60 minutes was $30-$45 mil. I have seen much more activity in Parque Botero related to competition between the Vennies and Colombianas. I see many boyfriends or handlers or whatever they are, which is a turn off for me. I also see more police and security presence in the parque even in the day time. My advice, continue to spend your money how you see fit, its your money. As for me, a cute 18-22 yr old with a bunny rabit habit, will fit my bill. Too many times I have been offered girls with the surgical bodies and we didn't vibe, but to each his own. Of course I got photos, that's mandatory for me, but may not be a issue for others. So after being here for nearly 5 days and not spending much more than a hundred dollars a day and banging 4-5 chics daily. Centro is a place full of angels to me, but we all have our pics. I'm not posting any pics this post as it may seem that I am not considerate to the working girls profession and want of a secret identity. If you can PM and want photos I have no problem sharing. I will be back next month for a 30 day stay for a bigger dental procedure. But if you need a tour of centro and the do's & don'ts, lets see if we can link up and maybe share a drink. Pollo negro is out!

Orgasmico
07-24-19, 02:08
Was at an unrelated activity in another part of town and a guy handed me this card. I haven't been to this spot in years but usually see it from the outside if I'm in Premium Plaza.

Knowledge
07-24-19, 02:40
You are a Centro rat like me.


I have no idea what other mongers are seeing or doing, but I've been in Medellin since Friday July 19 and I will leave on Friday July 26. Centro is cheaper than ever, I should know I made nearly 18 trips last year and I stay at the same place each trip. This trip my only complaint was the price of my ticket which was like $450 when I can usually do $278. What I will tell you is this, I stayed at a hotel of my liking and the rate dropped from about $105 mil pesos to about $48 mil pesos daily. I thought that was strange but I didn't question it. My main reason for the trip was dental related and the cost of the dental paid for the trip and mongering on the USA price period. I had 2 root canals and a tooth broke and I only spent $135 usd. Now back to Centro and Parque Botero and Vera Cruz. The price of the girls have dropped significantly, the Venezuelans are truly running the show and in a good way at that. I have banged no less than 5 girls everyday and not spent more than $300 mil daily, that's really awesome. I learned on my last trip which was in June, but I went to Bogota and came to Medellin for 3 days out of my 10 day trip, that if you go to Parque Botero at 6:45 am -7:30 am the Venezuelans are already lining up and ready to go. I primarily had citas with vennies this trip and I have no complaints. The going rates for "rato" a short time such as 45-60 minutes was $30-$45 mil. I have seen much more activity in Parque Botero related to competition between the Vennies and Colombianas. I see many boyfriends or handlers or whatever they are, which is a turn off for me.

Ty Down
07-24-19, 04:19
I have no idea what other mongers are seeing or doing, but I've been in Medellin since Friday July 19 and I will leave on Friday July 26. Centro is cheaper than ever, I should know I made nearly 18 trips last year and I stay at the same place each trip. This trip my only complaint was the price of my ticket which was like $450 when I can usually do $278. What I will tell you is this, I stayed at a hotel of my liking and the rate dropped from about $105 mil pesos to about $48 mil pesos daily. I thought that was strange but I didn't question it. My main reason for the trip was dental related and the cost of the dental paid for the trip and mongering on the USA price period. I had 2 root canals and a tooth broke and I only spent $135 usd. Now back to Centro and Parque Botero and Vera Cruz. The price of the girls have dropped significantly, the Venezuelans are truly running the show and in a good way at that. I have banged no less than 5 girls everyday and not spent more than $300 mil daily, that's really awesome. I learned on my last trip which was in June, but I went to Bogota and came to Medellin for 3 days out of my 10 day trip, that if you go to Parque Botero at 6:45 am -7:30 am the Venezuelans are already lining up and ready to go. I primarily had citas with vennies this trip and I have no complaints. The going rates for "rato" a short time such as 45-60 minutes was $30-$45 mil. I have seen much more activity in Parque Botero related to competition between the Vennies and Colombianas. I see many boyfriends or handlers or whatever they are, which is a turn off for me. I also see more police and security presence in the parque even in the day time. My advice, continue to spend your money how you see fit, its your money. As for me, a cute 18-22 yr old with a bunny rabit habit, will fit my bill. Too many times I have been offered girls with the surgical bodies and we didn't vibe, but to each his own. Of course I got photos, that's mandatory for me, but may not be a issue for others. So after being here for nearly 5 days and not spending much more than a hundred dollars a day and banging 4-5 chics daily. Centro is a place full of angels to me, but we all have our pics. I'm not posting any pics this post as it may seem that I am not considerate to the working girls profession and want of a secret identity. If you can PM and want photos I have no problem sharing. I will be back next month for a 30 day stay for a bigger dental procedure. But if you need a tour of centro and the do's & don'ts, lets see if we can link up and maybe share a drink. Pollo negro is out!But. But, I thought you had unlimited funds, what happened?

PolloNegro
07-24-19, 04:24
But. But, I thought you had unlimited funds, what happened?But I'm no fool with my money. I seem to find everything I want in centro & everything I need in Medellin, especially dental services. I'll never see another American Dentist. Pollo negro is out! LOL.

JjBee62
07-24-19, 04:59
Motel Ibiza seems to have different tariffs depending on whether you arrive by Taxi, Pie, Moto or Carro. Why is this?

Also the additional person charge of 17 k. Is the base tariff of 96 k based on just 1 person?

Thanks. I am very grateful for the level of detail in your posts.There are 2 ways in to Motel Ibiza. There's a walk in door and a vehicle gate. The walk-in door is for pedestrians and I assume motos. Taxis and personal cars use the gate. Personal cars get a 2nd floor room with a garage. People in taxis get a 3rd floor room. Driving around the hotel you'll see garage door, regular door, garage door, regular door. These are all controlled from the office. You can close them, once you park, or walk in, but you can't open them until you pay the bill.

I assume there are some smaller rooms located through the pedestrian entry.

There are 2 basic types of rooms: rooms with only a jacuzzi and rooms with a Jacuzzi and sauna. Sauna rooms are more expensive. All rooms have stripper pole, sex chair, shower, sound system and TV with porn channels.

The basic charge is for 2 people. Additional person charge is if you bring 2 girls.

Refrigerator is stocked with drinks, snacks, sex toys, condoms, bubble bath, lube, etc. There's also a sex toy and lingerie catalog along with a full menu, if you need something more. Refrigerator items are reasonably priced.

Black Page
07-24-19, 10:03
The basic charge is for 2 people. Additional person charge is if you bring 2 girls..On my first time there, I was simply amazed to note the suite with large jacuzzi and steam bath for up to 8 (EIGHT) persons. All this for an incredibly low rate per hour. Colombians really know how to enjoy life!

Trojan22
07-25-19, 23:10
Can anyone who went to Medellin recently please tell me what the USD / COP rate they got was? And where?

PolloNegro
07-26-19, 02:16
Can anyone who went to Medellin recently please tell me what the USD / COP rate they got was? And where?About $310,000 pesos per $100 usd on July 23rd.

Jbj64
07-26-19, 15:47
I applied for Global Entry in March and my app is still pending!


Some travel credit card reimburse the $100 for global entry payment as well.

World Travel 69
07-26-19, 15:49
Today's rate:

https://www1.oanda.com/currency/converter/

Never change money at the airport. In any country.

If you use the ATM, just get enough to get into town.


About $310,000 pesos per $100 usd on July 23rd.

Big Boss Man
07-26-19, 17:15
I applied for Global Entry in March and my app is still pending!They reallocated personnel from the Global Entry offices to the US-Mexico Border which is causing the delay.

https://www.latimes.com/travel/story/2019-07-19/at-lax-global-entry-enrollment-center-is-closed-indefinitely

GeneHickman
07-26-19, 17:17
Can anyone who went to Medellin recently please tell me what the USD / COP rate they got was? And where?Just read my post on this topic from my trip in Feb. In short use no forex fee ATM card. You should get very near the visa mastercard rates.

Mr Enternational
07-26-19, 17:19
I applied for Global Entry in March and my app is still pending!I heard it was a 6 to 9 month wait now.

Orgasmico
07-26-19, 17:25
Today's rate:

https://www1.oanda.com/currency/converter/

Never change money at the airport. In any country.

If you use the ATM, just get enough to get into town.I saw this the other day. Be mindful where you exchange currency. You can check the internet for the rate or download an app for your cell.

Mr Enternational
07-26-19, 17:25
Never change money at the airport. In any country.Almost any country. Great to change money at the airport in Philippines and Banreservas at the airport in Dominican Republic. Almost great to change money at the airport in Thailand.

I checked my XE app yesterday before turning my Dominican Pesos into USD at the airport. The app said $109 for 5600 pesos. When I went to the window of Banresrvas and dude tallied it up, the same $109 was what I was to receive.

Most other countries I can not understand why people are still using those places. They are the biggest ripoffs. I may start picking people out of the lines and exchanging for them (for $, euro, and pounds only) at half the rate the exchange place is charging. Easy way to make some extra cash.

I pulled out 600K COP at Bancolombia at the airport in Bogota last night. Along with their 14,520 COP ($4.59) fee, $192.36 came out of my Schwab account. That would make the exchange rate for using the machine 3,194.63 COP for $1.

Big Boss Man
07-26-19, 17:25
Just read my post on this topic from my trip in Feb. In short use no forex fee ATM card. You should get very near the visa mastercard rates.Mastercard.

https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/consumers/get-support/convert-currency.html

Visa.

https://usa.visa.com/support/consumer/travel-support/exchange-rate-calculator.html?amount=320000&fee=0&exchangedate=07%2F26%2F2019&fromCurr=USD&toCurr=COP&submitButton=Calculate+exchange+rate.

3200 COP to 1 USD as July 25.

Orgasmico
07-26-19, 17:29
Flew to the states a couple of weeks ago. It's been a while since I flew to the states and back from Medellin. What struck me was a noticeable change in the passengers going and coming. I'll leave it at that. Enjoy the scene!

HarvestBoi
07-26-19, 17:48
I heard it was a 6 to 9 month wait now.I think it depends on where you apply, or it did a year ago when I got mine. The hold up was the interview and my local office had a 5 month backlog but I found other offices in other parts of the country with only a day or two backlog.

YippieKayay
07-26-19, 18:39
Flew to the states a couple of weeks ago. It's been a while since I flew to the states and back from Medellin. What struck me was a noticeable change in the passengers going and coming. I'll leave it at that. Enjoy the scene!Completely not informative. What was the change?

Knowledge
07-26-19, 23:35
It's a cliffhanger, except for those of us who think one planeload might not be generally representative of any trend.


Completely not informative. What was the change?

Bonhead
07-27-19, 01:12
Was in Plaza Botero today, there were lots of girls, many of not all borderline age wise. Not a single one (I tired at least 10) could produce a seeédula or passport that would allow her entry into my place at Hotel Nutibarra. I'll leave it at that.


I have no idea what other mongers are seeing or doing, but I've been in Medellin since Friday July 19 and I will leave on Friday July 26. Centro is cheaper than ever, I should know I made nearly 18 trips last year and I stay at the same place each trip. This trip my only complaint was the price of my ticket which was like $450 when I can usually do $278. What I will tell you is this, I stayed at a hotel of my liking and the rate dropped from about $105 mil pesos to about $48 mil pesos daily. I thought that was strange but I didn't question it. My main reason for the trip was dental related and the cost of the dental paid for the trip and mongering on the USA price period. I had 2 root canals and a tooth broke and I only spent $135 usd. Now back to Centro and Parque Botero and Vera Cruz. The price of the girls have dropped significantly, the Venezuelans are truly running the show and in a good way at that. I have banged no less than 5 girls everyday and not spent more than $300 mil daily, that's really awesome. I learned on my last trip which was in June, but I went to Bogota and came to Medellin for 3 days out of my 10 day trip, that if you go to Parque Botero at 6:45 am -7:30 am the Venezuelans are already lining up and ready to go. I primarily had citas with vennies this trip and I have no complaints. The going rates for "rato" a short time such as 45-60 minutes was $30-$45 mil. I have seen much more activity in Parque Botero related to competition between the Vennies and Colombianas. I see many boyfriends or handlers or whatever they are, which is a turn off for me. I also see more police and security presence in the parque even in the day time. My advice, continue to spend your money how you see fit, its your money. As for me, a cute 18-22 yr old with a bunny rabit habit, will fit my bill. Too many times I have been offered girls with the surgical bodies and we didn't vibe, but to each his own. Of course I got photos, that's mandatory for me, but may not be a issue for others. So after being here for nearly 5 days and not spending much more than a hundred dollars a day and banging 4-5 chics daily. Centro is a place full of angels to me, but we all have our pics. I'm not posting any pics this post as it may seem that I am not considerate to the working girls profession and want of a secret identity. If you can PM and want photos I have no problem sharing. I will be back next month for a 30 day stay for a bigger dental procedure. But if you need a tour of centro and the do's & don'ts, lets see if we can link up and maybe share a drink. Pollo negro is out!

NeilGeorge
07-27-19, 01:38
My main reason for the trip was dental related and the cost of the dental paid for the trip and mongering on the USA price period. I had 2 root canals and a tooth broke and I only spent $135 usd.

Only problem is if you have complications or need follow up care. Expensive to fly back to Mde.

John Clayton
07-27-19, 02:16
Age of Consent vs Age of Majority
... many of not all borderline age wise. Not a single one (I tired at least 10) could produce a seedula ...Meaning less than 18? The age of consent in Colombia is 14. Just sayin'.

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Greetings Gentlemen,

The Age of Consent is the age in which girls can participate in consensual, non-commercial sex with their teen-age boyfriend without said teen-age boyfriend being charged with statutory rape.

However, the Age of Consent is irrelevant to the members of this forum.

What you need to focus on is the Age of Majority, which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.

Please exercise caution and govern yourself accordingly.

Thanks,

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Orgasmico
07-27-19, 02:20
Meaning less than 18? The age of consent in Colombia is 14. Just sayin'."The extraterritorial sexual exploitation of children is the act of traveling to a foreign country and engaging in sexual activity with a child in that country. Federal law prohibits an American citizen or resident to travel to a foreign country with intent to engage in any form of sexual conduct with a minor (defined as persons under 18 years of age). It is also illegal to help organize or assist another person to travel for these purposes. This crime is a form of [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908), also referred to as child sex tourism. Convicted offenders face fines and up to 30 years of imprisonment (For more information, see Citizen's Guide to Federal Law on the Extraterritorial Sexual Exploitation of Children). ".

https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceos/extraterritorial-sexual-exploitation-children

Mr Enternational
07-27-19, 02:57
Only problem is if you have complications or need follow up care. Expensive to fly back to Mde.Life is about risk management. I win a whole hell of a lot more than I lose. What are the chances of complications? And even if there were, depending where the person lived, it could still be cheaper to fly back to handle it when you look at the costs of care in the USA. Plus you factor in the fun that you have while there and it equals out to be all worthwhile.

Mr Enternational
07-27-19, 03:00
Federal law prohibits an American citizen or resident to travel to a foreign country with intent to engage in any form of sexual conduct with a minor (defined as persons under 18 years of age). Like in my state the age is 16, but if you bring one of those mfs across state lines then you are in for a world of shit.

PolloNegro
07-27-19, 05:27
My main reason for the trip was dental related and the cost of the dental paid for the trip and mongering on the USA price period. I had 2 root canals and a tooth broke and I only spent $135 usd.

Only problem is if you have complications or need follow up care. Expensive to fly back to Mde.How cheap it is to fly out of Florida to Medellin. 2 root canals with a post and fixing a broke tooth is nearly $5 k in the USA. I speak Spanish fluently and I know a ton about medical procedures and medicine, the biggest difference so far in the quality of care that I have witnessed, was the price. Most Americans have every reason in the world to doubt that you could receive better care in a 3rd world country, but so far, I'm very impressed with the quality of care provided by the dentist and medical teams in Medellin! Pollo negro is out!.

PolloNegro
07-27-19, 06:00
Was in Plaza Botero today, there were lots of girls, many of not all borderline age wise. Not a single one (I tired at least 10) could produce a seedula or passport that would allow her entry into my place at Hotel Nutibarra. I'll leave it at that.I can understand your nervousness, and concern. My hotel only checks ID if I ask them to check it. They never allow any girls up to my room without checking with me first and never allow them to leave without calling up to my room and ensuring that its OK that the girl leaves. Nutibarra has its own sets of rules, that's why I have never resided there. I was in centro for the past week and 2 things that I have learned about Medellin that no one can get me to change is this: 1. Always have an umbrella and 2. Pay attention to the drop in temperature at night. I've had members offer me nicer hotels at nearly the same rate at the hotel in which I stay, but after 18 visits and numerous colds, I'm good. I'm very sensitive to temperature changes. I learned if I keep one window open and my fan near the window, the room cools off nicely for me at night. Unlike Bogota, where I nearly froze due the a 30-35 degree drop from south Florida's temperature, each monger must find his own threshold for tolerating Medellin. This was my fifth trip this year and I have only become sick once, due to being in the rain and staying in an air conditioned room. You are not blind, you are not crazy, you know when a girl is old enough and when she is not, if she seems too young, ask for the cédula and if she can't produce it, then move on! But hotel Nuttibarra seems to find a way to squeeze a peso out of its patrens! Pollonegro is out!

Trojan22
07-27-19, 07:07
Today's rate:

https://www1.oanda.com/currency/converter/

Never change money at the airport. In any country.

If you use the ATM, just get enough to get into town.Where do you recommend doing it then?

PledgeHassler
07-27-19, 21:10
The large shopping malls have "Casas de Cambia" with the best exchange rate. Also. ATMs are excellent, too. I used the Casa de Cambia at the Premium Plaza shopping mall. Any ATM of a major bank is good. I used Bank of Columbia. You'll need a debit card from your local bank, though.

You're right, every airport, everywhere is a rip off! I checked Miami and MDE.

Have fun!

Try Andre's Carne for dinner. Outstanding!


Where do you recommend doing it then?

PledgeHassler
07-27-19, 21:14
Yep, it's a good idea to take advantage of that. I dropped into a dental office at the Premium Plaza and got a routine cleaning. Cost me $30 USD. I plan to return and get a couple implants next year. Will do my research first and probably save money money than the cost of the entire trip to MDE. Thinking about moving there, too.


My main reason for the trip was dental related and the cost of the dental paid for the trip and mongering on the USA price period. I had 2 root canals and a tooth broke and I only spent $135 usd.

Only problem is if you have complications or need follow up care. Expensive to fly back to Mde.

JjBee62
07-28-19, 01:32
How cheap it is to fly out of Florida to Medellin. 2 root canals with a post and fixing a broke tooth is nearly $5 k in the USA. I speak Spanish fluently and I know a ton about medical procedures and medicine, the biggest difference so far in the quality of care that I have witnessed, was the price. Most Americans have every reason in the world to doubt that you could receive better care in a 3rd world country, but so far, I'm very impressed with the quality of care provided by the dentist and medical teams in Medellin! Pollo negro is out!.They wouldn't doubt the quality of healthcare in Colombia vs the US if they did some research. Overall quality of healthcare, Colombia is ranked 22nd in the world. US is ranked 37th.

Of course all anyone has to do is spend a day walking around any Colombian city. Look at the people, especially those under 25. Compare them to the people you see in the US. They are healthier. They have better teeth, better skin, better bodies.

Surfer500
07-28-19, 03:30
The large shopping malls have "Casas de Cambia" with the best exchange rate. Also. ATMs are excellent, too. I used the Casa de Cambia at the Premium Plaza shopping mall. Any ATM of a major bank is good. I used Bank of Columbia. You'll need a debit card from your local bank, though.

You're right, every airport, everywhere is a rip off! I checked Miami and MDE.

Have fun!

Try Andre's Carne for dinner. Outstanding!Bancolombia has the worst exchange rates for ATM's in Colombia, and you will get a much better rate from Chase.

All of the casas de cambio have terrible exchange rates as well, way below what you would get from a bank ATM.

ThadMax
07-28-19, 06:43
Curious as to whether this is a good or bad time for mongering in Medellin. I noticed that flights and accommodations are more expensive than usual. While I'm sure the festival itself is wonderful. How does it affect the scene?

JayToStore
07-28-19, 07:30
Hello Amigos,

All your info are great helpful in my journeys. I thought of sharing my experience as I reached to Medellin 3 days back. I will be staying 5 more days as I write this.

Day 1 : Reached around 4 pm then booked uber a lot of hassle to find uber driver in the middle of local cabs. Anyways I reserved room in Art Hotel Poblado everything is great wish there were better lights in the room.

Visited Parque Lleras around 10:30 pm to have some nice dinner after good sleep. Food was great in Basilica costed 70 mil I guess for each. Then visited gusto club, cover was 15 mil ordered beer don't remember the price felt expensive for Colombia. Lot of silicon girls. I was confused to try a girl in gusto club or go somewhere. Since its too late. I went with a blonde as attached below her WhatsApp pic. She looked stunning just like pornstar Kyla Kayden. Agreed for the damage of 400 mil for 4 hrs. Came back to hotel receptionist told me that I can bring in 1 guest for free and if I bring new guest after 8 pm cost will be 45 $ US. I thought I did a mistake bringing her first.

I told her to take Bath and she got ready with sport swim suit covering her under boobs. She looked great just a scar on her thighs. I was like dam I caught a nice fish. Then realized fish was rotten. Started with cowboy First she was too slow taking break and a lot of phone calls kinda started making me discomfort. To bring me up again pulled the suit completely to see those boobs in the process slight inner thread cut off I mean very slight. She shouted as someone trying to kill her. I told her to relax I pay for it. I was kind to her with all nonsense break and phone calls of her. Then we started again but a soon as I saw her under boobs my mood was off. Her under boobs was black white patches like something swelled. I know the surgery marks but this was some kind of infection. No mood to continue I immediately stopped told her its over and leave. Before leaving she asked me to give 50 $ US for the dress. WTF I was still kind to her and asked her what brand it is. She didn't reply. She started arguing and not ready to leave the room. I lost my cool and done with this Google translator mess. Told her enough and gave her 50 mil pesos and showed the door to leave. Finally she decided to leave as she realized nothing more can be grabbed. She stole redbull when I was in bathroom. I checked other stuff missing or not. I kept important things in locker before. Don't pick that girl if you guys go to gusto and I forgot her name sorry.

Day2 : Me and other friends decided to go to Guatape. Place was amazing. Anyway that story shouldn't be here but 1 friend decided to stay back since he already made plans before leaving US about this Escort agency he was hyped about called geisha Academy. Turns out he said they sent him a "she was dude type" and looked no similarities as pictures. He sent her back right away.

As a advice avoid Geisha academy especially the girl named Salome.

We all wanted good club after tiring climb on to hill. Went with luxury club since its a top end club in the reviews. A lot of locals and place was too clumsy. Hmm I wondered how this considered as top end. Anyways some place to call shots. Most Girls were in groups or with BFs they looked like rich locals. Doing birthday parties, Rich local dude scoring girls or just girls night. Not a place for gringos. There were no gringos other than us. Music was too load not pleasant just like a tin-can. Not able to hear anything even someone shouting close to my ears. After few shots my friends were not interested with girls on that night. Since Next day we had plans to go to Loutron. I decided try since most were locals. Got a few rejects not into money or gringo and 1 was interested also not into money. She spoke little English. Due to loud music we were speaking very close. Her mouth was a trash bin. I decided to agree with my friends and go back to sleep.

Day 3 Loutron:

A lot of gringos and place was 20 min from Poblado. The lineups was unreal like 10 girls working and some booked. Everyone was 7+ . I went with girl named Keya (not sure how to spell) . She looked great like pornstar Mackenzee Pierce but C-cups. 2 hrs with damage of 600 mil and 100 mil tips. Had a great time. I came 2 times. She was very co operative but like other Escort rules No Kissing, fingering or ass touching. She told no photos so I couldn't take any.

While waiting for my friends I see girls were rotating 15 min after their previous session including the girl I picked. She gave me the kinky smile as she walked with someone into the room.

I will keep updated how it goes in next few days and any suggestions welcome.

Before visiting I tried Colombian cupid as everyone talked about with premium account. I found a lot of Fake profiles or Categories of Women with kids finding Man wanted for Financial and also few pregnant girls finding daddy for the unborn child. Girls lie a lot here be careful on that. I got few contacts but not so interested to meet them or time to chat with them with translating mess better pick someone whom you see.

Beobeo
07-28-19, 12:30
I'm looking to get some dental work done while I'm in Colombia as well. Do you have any recommendation? I'm looking to do regular cleaning, root canal (crown). Thanks.

Surfer500
07-28-19, 16:47
They wouldn't doubt the quality of healthcare in Colombia vs the US if they did some research. Overall quality of healthcare, Colombia is ranked 22nd in the world. US is ranked 37th.

Of course all anyone has to do is spend a day walking around any Colombian city. Look at the people, especially those under 25. Compare them to the people you see in the US. They are healthier. They have better teeth, better skin, better bodies.This may be a bit misleading in that overall the healthcare may be better in terms of service, etc when needing to see a Doctor there which I have on a few occasions and the attention was incredible.

However for sophisticated and high tech procedures / surgeries (such as cataracts) I would immediately come back to the USA.

Woodman09
07-28-19, 17:31
I'm looking to get some dental work done while I'm in Colombia as well. Do you have any recommendation? I'm looking to do regular cleaning, root canal (crown). Thanks.Dr. Camilo Novoa Bolivar in Bogota his practice does root canals, implants. I have had a lot of work done.

He is a professor of dental implantology at Javieriana University.

Mr Enternational
07-28-19, 17:59
I was confused to try a girl in gusto club. I was like dam I caught a nice fish. Then realized fish was rotten.Great report man. You have me laughing my ass off. That is a prime example of why I prefer downtown casas. Everyone seems to know what they are there for and you don't get the bullshit. I will put my $12 at risk in centro casas all day long. I am not rich enough to take chances with a $123 (plus the shit they may steal along the way) freelancer like that.

Surfer500
07-28-19, 19:21
Great report man. You have me laughing my ass off. That is a prime example of why I prefer downtown casas. Everyone seems to know what they are there for and you don't get the bullshit. I will put my $12 at risk in centro casas all day long. I am not rich enough to take chances with a $123 (plus the shit they may steal along the way) freelancer like that.What's interesting about Colombia, compared to other mongering locations in the world, is the wide range of Pay for Play available where you just show up, without needing the Internet.

You have the SW scene, the Casa's, the Strip Clubs / Bars, the discos, and such a wide range of pricing.

Member #2001
07-28-19, 20:15
My main reason for the trip was dental related and the cost of the dental paid for the trip and mongering on the USA price period. I had 2 root canals and a tooth broke and I only spent $135 usd.

Only problem is if you have complications or need follow up care. Expensive to fly back to Mde.American dentists are a total ripoff. I had one dentist charge me like 1500 for a crown. In Ukraine and that was 15 years ago. I had a mouthful of crowns done for less than that and it included the price of the airplane ticket. Its not rocket science. Just get your dental work in another country. I imagine I will have to use a dentist in Medellin sometime and if needed follow up work is not problem.

John Clayton
07-28-19, 20:43
American dentists are a total ripoff. I had one dentist charge me like 1500 for a crown...Probably true. I would do it, but I've been going to the dentist of the stars for the last 25 years, and she would would murder me if she looked in there and saw some other dentist's work! ;.

DramaFree11
07-28-19, 20:48
American dentists are a total ripoff. I had one dentist charge me like 1500 for a crown. In Ukraine and that was 15 years ago. I had a mouthful of crowns done for less than that and it included the price of the airplane ticket. Its not rocket science. Just get your dental work in another country. I imagine I will have to use a dentist in Medellin sometime and if needed follow up work is not problem.2nd this I go to Tijuana or Laredo for all my dental work. Way better and much cheaper. Office may not be as nice and a little dirty, but so much better.

Turgid
07-28-19, 20:49
This may be a bit misleading in that overall the healthcare may be better in terms of service, etc when needing to see a Doctor there which I have on a few occasions and the attention was incredible.

However for sophisticated and high tech procedures / surgeries (such as cataracts) I would immediately come back to the USA.Eye treatment is an exception. People from other countries come to the US for that. For other types of health care such as dental it makes more sense to have that done abroad.

PledgeHassler
07-28-19, 21:15
Bancolombia has the worst exchange rates for ATM's in Colombia, and you will get a much better rate from Chase.

All of the casas de cambio have terrible exchange rates as well, way below what you would get from a bank ATM.Thanks for the tip. I'll try.

Chase next time.

Sho423
07-28-19, 21:33
[QUOTE=Beobeo;2352152]I'm looking to get some dental work done while I'm in Colombia as well. Do you have any recommendation? I'm looking to do regular cleaning, root canal (crown). Thanks.[/QUOTEhttps://clinicaartica.com/

Dr. Juan Carlos Mejia.

I went to him for a 3 crown bridge, it was about $1,500.

Nice guy that speaks perfect cleaning.

I'm going back in a couple weeks and getting a dental cleaning there for 120,000 cop.

For root canals, I went to Juan Diego Lopez be.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj7wtfVutjjAhVjmK0KHcZOCjoQFjABegQIABAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.doctoralia.co%2Fjuan-diego-lopez-bentancur%2Fodontologo%2Fmedellin&usg=AOvVaw2-5DRL8_TiHvQ8fiENJTRB

Really nice guy and did amazing work.

The work I received in Medellin was amazing and definitely recommended.

The Tall Man
07-28-19, 22:02
Hello Amigos,

All your info are great helpful in my journeys. I thought of sharing my experience as I reached to Medellin 3 days back. I will be staying 5 more days as I write this.

Day 1 : Reached around 4 pm then booked uber a lot of hassle to find uber driver in the middle of local cabs. Anyways I reserved room in Art Hotel Poblado everything is great wish there were better lights in the room.

Visited Parque Lleras around 10:30 pm to have some nice dinner after good sleep. Food was great in Basilica costed 70 mil I guess for each. Then visited gusto club, cover was 15 mil ordered beer don't remember the price felt expensive for Colombia. Lot of silicon girls. I was confused to try a girl in gusto club or go somewhere. Since its too late. I went with a blonde as attached below her WhatsApp pic. She looked stunning just like pornstar Kyla Kayden. Agreed for the damage of 400 mil for 4 hrs. Came back to hotel receptionist told me that I can bring in 1 guest for free and if I bring new guest after 8 pm cost will be 45 $ US. I thought I did a mistake bringing her first.

I told her to take Bath and she got ready with sport swim suit covering her under boobs. She looked great just a scar on her thighs. I was like dam I caught a nice fish. Then realized fish was rotten. Started with cowboy First she was too slow taking break and a lot of phone calls kinda started making me discomfort. To bring me up again pulled the suit completely to see those boobs in the process slight inner thread cut off I mean very slight. She shouted as someone trying to kill her. I told her to relax I pay for it. I was kind to her with all nonsense break and phone calls of her...A phenomenal first post and great report. Welcome to the board.

And out of all the places that I have been in Medellin I have never step foot in Loutron and the high price tag is the reason. To each his own but for 600 to 700 mil I can have a chica for a week.

Shows that we all do have much different sized wallets, jajajajja.

The Tall Man.

JjBee62
07-28-19, 22:50
This may be a bit misleading in that overall the healthcare may be better in terms of service, etc when needing to see a Doctor there which I have on a few occasions and the attention was incredible.

However for sophisticated and high tech procedures / surgeries (such as cataracts) I would immediately come back to the USA.Rankings aren't based upon service. They're based on patient outcomes. US rankings on things like preventable death, infant mortality, surgical errors, prescription errors, etc are appalling.

PolloNegro
07-28-19, 23:17
https://clinicaartica.com/

Dr. Juan Carlos Mejia.

I went to him for a 3 crown bridge, it was about $1,500.

Nice guy that speaks perfect cleaning.

I'm going back in a couple weeks and getting a dental cleaning there for 120,000 cop.

For root canals, I went to..Well, here is the guy who's going my complete mouth with numerous implants and veneers, I'm having an extensive amount of work done and the price in America was $64,000. Dr Zuluaga, was only a 1/6th the amount of that and his work is spectacular. My only complaint at this time is choosing how white I want my final teeth. I paid him with my business account card and will write it off as a medical bill at the end of the year, meaning I will nearly get the procedure done for free!

https://instagram.com/odontologozuluaga?igshid=19x9fximi0tli

Pollo Negro is out!

Orgasmico
07-29-19, 00:20
Some of you guys might recognize this general location. Not much info yet since no ID, etc.

https://www.minuto30.com/fotos-encuentran-el-cuerpo-sin-vida-de-un-hombre-en-laureles-y-no-lo-pudieron-identificar-porque-le-robaron-hasta-los-papeles/864862/

JayToStore
07-29-19, 01:09
After amazing experience yesterday I wanted to go back again. Today was bit busy in Loutron and more girls. I went with girl named Valentina she is just like pornstar Capri Cavalli. Very good experience and she was clean and Hot. But she followed Escort rules though I am ready to pay more. I tipped her good to get her contact info and managed to take a back photo of her without notice but that doesn't say much.

JayToStore
07-29-19, 01:17
Some of you guys might recognize this general location. Not much info yet since no ID, etc.

https://www.minuto30.com/fotos-encuentran-el-cuerpo-sin-vida-de-un-hombre-en-laureles-y-no-lo-pudieron-identificar-porque-le-robaron-hasta-los-papeles/864862/Sounds scary I planned to visit there in next few days.

Turgid
07-29-19, 02:16
............... She was very co operative but like other Escort rules No Kissing, fingering or ass touching. ...............I don't know anywhere with such rules. If I did I certainly won't visit there. No touching of the ass is reason to abort the session and ask for another girl.

Coupe66
07-29-19, 18:51
Hey guys, have already booked my return to Colombia in September. Will start off in Medellin, then Bucaramanga, Barranquilla, back to Santa Marta and maybe visit Cucuta too? Have read back at least 20 pages on this thread but still have to ask a few questions as I've never been to Medellin before.

Will stay in Laureles as it seems to be a good base, plenty of chicas online and daytime casas that look interesting there. These hotels in Laureles look good, anyone stayed in any of them? Hotel Casa Laureles, Lincoln, Vivre, Bolivariana Plaza and Cabo de la Vela.

I'll be arriving in the early evening, what's the best option to get there from the international airport? I guess the shuttle bus doesn't go to Laureles? How much would I pay for a taxi, are they honest / stick to the fares quoted?

I've read a lot about all the dangers in Medellin, but won't let it put me off. Read a lot of bad stuff about Bogota too before my trip in February / March, but once on the ground didn't have any problems. But how do the cities compare in terms of safety? I guess there are different elements you have to watch out for, ie in Bogota it's not recommended to just hail a cab, and in Medellin you have to watch out for people spiking your drinks. Is it safe in Laureles or El Poblado for example to just hail a cab, or better to use an app / Uber? Are parts of Laureles (Avenida Nutibara / La 70 ?) safe to walk after dark? What other comparisons about safety can be made in this respect ? Thanks for any advice you can give guys.

Orgasmico
07-29-19, 19:05
I'll be arriving in the early evening, what's the best option to get there from the international airport? I guess the shuttle bus doesn't go to Laureles? How much would I pay for a taxi, are they honest / stick to the fares quoted?
Public Bus stops at San Diego Mall and you could take a local cab or Uber from there to your hotel. Bus is very cheap and you pay in the local currency. Cab from the Mall to Laureles should be under 8 mil.

Or you can take a cab from the airport for a set price, which I think is 75,000. The price is posted so double check the sign. You may also be able to share a cab if you meet someone on the plane or the cabbies will sometimes try to coordinate cab sharing depending on supply and demand, but not sure about the price.

Read this article: https://medellinguru.com/get-to-medellin-from-the-airport/

Septimius
07-29-19, 21:06
Sounds scary I planned to visit there in next few days.I tried reading through the story with my Spanish and it's really nothing to be scared about. A dead person found without his items that was probably robbed. I could not make out if they determined how he died. I can tell you that I see a lot worse out here where I live unfortunately.

AmoMedellin
07-29-19, 21:49
Nickname Margarita and Rosario this girl, today 29, started with internet scamming at maybe 18-20.

I have seen her history; she has been on interlational datingsitessince 2013, what I can find, but surely before. She is now 28/29, so if she started 2013, she was 23, but that depends on two factors.

Learning Perfect English, both for a serious career and picking up clientes in Boca Grande where she lived, 2013/2018/19, or probably moved there when she was 18. She was a famous fasion model. In Colombia or at least in Cartagena and the criminal people with €€€ to spend on young models. I canåt find more info but according tomy Baby Doll friends in cartagena she probably started with both English (or before at a bi-lingual fancy upp. Class schooling Bogota).

Money and freedom. She could use the typical scences, which are the most HQ and expensive so that even Obama could hold there hands awaty from them.

Princes in an exotic place; above US and Western Europe for topnotch prepagos.

Her trick on me, and I have trid it at many girls; be rude!. Hey will quarel and then open up that they need money for University-kindergarten, rent etc.

She wanted be to send money for her intuition, after somedays days fights over whatsapp. Be nice and you get no responses and maybe 30-50% are interested, or maybe even more since all beauties on Cupid, Latineuro, AmoLatina are internet putas.

They develop skills to trick you. Beome your friend, and then you wake upalone without creditcard and keys!

Goto Medellin and meet pretty girls and even prepagos, but have a security line that you never cross.

It seems to have reach a level of professional deception.

Kreditcards / codes, keys etc, mustbe you ina safe, that can be hardlybe removed from the wall in the closet.

90% of the hundreds of the girls have been OK, or at least since 20% would steal everything if they could, or maybe wecan say 100%.

Itås al about the money.

Act like a romantic middle aged guy with a good job. That get a lot of sex. Then change her for another one.

Tradition in Colombi ais; the girl sees a gringo and wants to have sex with him and she will get it, no matter how hard families and friends try to stop her.

Also, in a double-egged sword; she want his money, the amount is what he has. That's a typical paisa.

Enjoy but put 100% fous on security first, then you can forget that stress momentum and focus on just having fun!

The girl and girls I write about here are 9/10 babes. Natural or not. But completely irresistible. So before falling in love- lock up your credit card, codes, emergency number to your bank, police. After feeling or actually being secure, enjoy.

Do not either fall for traps that she needs money more what ever reason. Just change her out.

With 4 million people in Medellin and 80% under 30 yo. And many young girls moving to Medellin to make money.

They are like 18-35.

25-35% are in that age range, which means 50.000 Ten point stunners- or more.

Just just be polite and guard your things of value.

Maybe there are 1000 gringos at a given day in Medellin. 49.000 are yours!

Also note; since Venezuela economy finally broke down, prepago prices seem to have fallen 20-30%, maybe even more.

Good hunting Harts.

YippieKayay
07-29-19, 23:11
I've read a lot about all the dangers in Medellin, but won't let it put me off. Read a lot of bad stuff about Bogota too before my trip in February / March, but once on the ground didn't have any problems. But how do the cities compare in terms of safety? I guess there are different elements you have to watch out for, ie in Bogota it's not recommended to just hail a cab, and in Medellin you have to watch out for people spiking your drinks. Is it safe in Laureles or El Poblado for example to just hail a cab, or better to use an app / Uber? Are parts of Laureles (Avenida Nutibara / La 70 ?) safe to walk after dark? What other comparisons about safety can be made in this respect ? Thanks for any advice you can give guys.The northern part of Bogota is much safer than most neighborhoods in Medellin.

I visited Medellin a few times and did alright solo but recently there's been a number of sex tourists who got drugged, robbed, and in one case they tortured the guy emptied out his bank accounts and left his body up in the foot hills.

Knowledge
07-29-19, 23:15
Keep the scary stories coming, I personally won't miss the gringos.


The northern part of Bogota is much safer than most neighborhoods in Medellin.

I visited Medellin a few times and did alright solo but recently there's been a number of sex tourists who got drugged, robbed, and in one case they tortured the guy emptied out his bank accounts and left his body up in the foot hills.

Orgasmico
07-29-19, 23:19
Is it safe in Laureles or El Poblado for example to just hail a cab, or better to use an app / Uber? Are parts of Laureles (Avenida Nutibara / La 70 ?) safe to walk after dark? What other comparisons about safety can be made in this respect ? Thanks for any advice you can give guys.Laureles and El Poblado are areas with a lot of tourists, Starbucks, KFC, etc. It is safe to hail a cab in those areas, use Uber or walk around at night, however, use your common sense because people get robbed and so on in those areas as well. If you are walking around by yourself at night you are always more of a target. Move with a purpose at night and the taxis are inexpensive for gringos so don't be afraid to use them. The cabs are metered.

SankarShetty
07-30-19, 01:09
Some of you guys might recognize this general location. Not much info yet since no ID, etc.

https://www.minuto30.com/fotos-encuentran-el-cuerpo-sin-vida-de-un-hombre-en-laureles-y-no-lo-pudieron-identificar-porque-le-robaron-hasta-los-papeles/864862/I will be in Laureles a couple of weeks, this news is giving me creeps!! Couple this with all the tourist drugging which is on an upward swing, its getting stressful.

YippieKayay
07-30-19, 01:38
Keep the scary stories coming, I personally won't miss the gringos.It's all completely true:

https://globalnews.ca/news/4917869/sfu-professor-killed-in-colombia-arrests-tinder/

It's important to respond to questions about safety realistically.

Mr Enternational
07-30-19, 01:40
I will be in Laureles a couple of weeks, this news is giving me creeps!! Couple this with all the tourist drugging which is on an upward swing, its getting stressful.All what tourist drugging? Creeps? People die everyday all over the world. If you are scared to go somewhere because someone died, then why even leave the house? I'm sure people die in accidents close to your home everyday. Does that mean you get stressed out taking the expressway?

JjBee62
07-30-19, 02:05
Hey guys, have already booked my return to Colombia in September. Will start off in Medellin, then Bucaramanga, Barranquilla, back to Santa Marta and maybe visit Cucuta too? Have read back at least 20 pages on this thread but still have to ask a few questions as I've never been to Medellin before.

Will stay in Laureles as it seems to be a good base, plenty of chicas online and daytime casas that look interesting there. These hotels in Laureles look good, anyone stayed in any of them? Hotel Casa Laureles, Lincoln, Vivre, Bolivariana Plaza and Cabo de la Vela.Can't help you on the hotels, although San Peter Apartments is frequently recommended. Chica friendly. Comfortable.


I'll be arriving in the early evening, what's the best option to get there from the international airport? I guess the shuttle bus doesn't go to Laureles? How much would I pay for a taxi, are they honest / stick to the fares quoted?The cheapest way is to take the bus. One goes to San Diego mall and one goes by Hotel Nutibara in El Centro. Doesn't matter which one as both end up about the same distance from Laureles. I think the current rate is 10 k. Someone said another 8 k for taxi from San Diego to Laureles, but I'd put it closer to 10 k.

On the wall outside the terminal is a big sign with taxi rates. I believe it's currently 75 k. That's for the white taxis. Most of the drivers will try to charge 5-10 k more.

The third option is to set up with a girl who has her own car and does airport pickup. She charges 80 k for the ride and it's worth it. She's also happy to make sure you're properly settled into your room, for a price. I'll send you her contact info by PM if you want.


I've read a lot about all the dangers in Medellin, but won't let it put me off. Read a lot of bad stuff about Bogota too before my trip in February / March, but once on the ground didn't have any problems. But how do the cities compare in terms of safety? I guess there are different elements you have to watch out for, ie in Bogota it's not recommended to just hail a cab, and in Medellin you have to watch out for people spiking your drinks. Is it safe in Laureles or El Poblado for example to just hail a cab, or better to use an app / Uber? Are parts of Laureles (Avenida Nutibara / La 70 ?) safe to walk after dark? What other comparisons about safety can be made in this respect ? Thanks for any advice you can give guys.I always just hailed cabs in Medellin. I used Uber some, but taxis were always fine.

Avenida Nutibara is where the better restaurants are located. Although down close to Calle 33 it starts looking a bit tougher, it's fine to walk after dark. La 70 I've walked many times late night. Towards the weekend it will be very busy, especially after 9. Daytime through early evening it's always busy. It is also fine to walk after dark.

The restaurants on La 70 are mostly fairly basic. You can get a decent meal at just about any of them, but not many stand out. Mondongos, Rico Ajiaco and El Apache are all good. I found the better restaurants are off on side streets a block or 2 away from Carrera 70. Full Arabe is a favorite for Lebanese food.

Same basic security issues as in Bogota.

Orgasmico
07-30-19, 02:25
I will be in Laureles a couple of weeks, this news is giving me creeps!! Couple this with all the tourist drugging which is on an upward swing, its getting stressful.You should be OK so don't freak out. Just something to be aware of. There are stories in the news mainly about Medellin and Bogota almost daily. Happens to Colombians as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPnWoGPbxiw&t=139s

SankarShetty
07-30-19, 02:45
All what tourist drugging? Creeps? People die everyday all over the world. If you are scared to go somewhere because someone died, then why even leave the house? I'm sure people die in accidents close to your home everyday. Does that mean you get stressed out taking the expressway?I have lived in cities with some of the highest crime rate in United States, (like Baltimore, Oakland, Chicago) but I never go hit the streets in inner city Chicago looking for P4P. Medellin on the other hand, I usually do casa runs in day time and park Lleras street scene in the evening, so mostly out exploring bars and parks, not scooped up in my 'safe' apartment.

YippieKayay
07-30-19, 08:59
All what tourist drugging? Creeps? People die everyday all over the world. If you are scared to go somewhere because someone died, then why even leave the house? I'm sure people die in accidents close to your home everyday. Does that mean you get stressed out taking the expressway?There's a difference between being kidnapped and murdered and dying in a car accident because you or someone else wasn't paying attention. Big difference.

Why do people on this forum always get so touchy when someone says Medellin is dangerous (even to tourists)? It's the truth. The city has a long history of crime and, while things have improved, violent crime continues to pervade the city.

JjBee62
07-30-19, 10:22
There's a difference between being kidnapped and murdered and dying in a car accident because you or someone else wasn't paying attention. Big difference.

Why do people on this forum always get so touchy when someone says Medellin is dangerous (even to tourists)? It's the truth. The city has a long history of crime and, while things have improved, violent crime continues to pervade the city.Because it's almost always exaggerated or taken out of context.

Is there really any difference between being robbed and killed because you weren't paying attention and being killed in a car wreck because you weren't paying attention? Most of the risk, in both situations, can be negated if you learn to pay attention.

Mr Enternational
07-30-19, 12:18
There's a difference between being kidnapped and murdered and dying in a car accident because you or someone else wasn't paying attention. Big difference.

Why do people on this forum always get so touchy when someone says Medellin is dangerousTrue. And whoever thought they would die at a garlic festival, at a country music concert, or sitting in class? No Medellin and no car accident involved in those. Living is dangerous. When your time is up, then it is up. Stop worrying and have fun while you are here.

Beobeo
07-30-19, 13:19
Can't help you on the hotels, although San Peter Apartments is frequently recommended. Chica friendly. Comfortable.Any other apartment building that is as good as San Peter? I like to have a back up choice. Thanks.

Knowledge
07-31-19, 03:19
I don't use drugs or Facebook / tindr / other apps with providers. I know for a fact that there are ne'er do wells who target foreigners. There are certain precautions guys can take to lower the risk. Guys can also search for 'crime in Medellin' to get a feel for the risk profile. For the inexperienced or worried, casas are a safe option. You can run many searches for Medellin crime but you won't find reports about guys getting victimized in casas. You will find reports of bad sessions or unattractive girls but YMMV as the saying goes.


It's all completely true:

https://globalnews.ca/news/4917869/sfu-professor-killed-in-colombia-arrests-tinder/

It's important to respond to questions about safety realistically.

Fun Luvr
07-31-19, 06:26
Laureles and El Poblado are areas with a lot of tourists, Starbucks, KFC, etc. It is safe to hail a cab in those areas, use Uber or walk around at night, however, use your common sense because people get robbed and so on in those areas as well. If you are walking around by yourself at night you are always more of a target. Move with a purpose at night and the taxis are inexpensive for gringos so don't be afraid to use them. The cabs are metered.Be careful about hailing a taxi on the streets around Parque Lleras. I usually use the Easy Taxi app (now changed to Cabify) or the Uber app to order a ride. Within the last year, I have encountered dishonest taxi drivers that I hailed off the streets around Parque Lleras. They either have a fast meter or turn their meter off and claim it doesn't work. If they turn the meter off, I get out and don't pay them anything. It's usually harder to notice the fast meters. Easy Taxi creates a record, so drivers tend to be honest.

Errol Flynn
07-31-19, 07:30
Why do people on this forum always get so touchy when someone says Medellin is dangerous (even to tourists)? IBecause the fear comes from Xenophobia. I have been to many different parts of Medellin (I also used to live in Manhattan) and I have always felt safe in Medellin by exercising the exact same precautions I would exercise in any large US city. Don't be an idiot and you'll be fine in MDE, be an idiot and you might get in trouble there or Bangkok or New Haven or Johannesburg or Paris or Moscow.

JjBee62
07-31-19, 12:57
Because the fear comes from Xenophobia. I have been to many different parts of Medellin (I also used to live in Manhattan) and I have always felt safe in Medellin by exercising the exact same precautions I would exercise in any large US city. Don't be an idiot and you'll be fine in MDE, be an idiot and you might get in trouble there or Bangkok or New Haven or Johannesburg or Paris or Moscow.Exactly.

I remember seeing a guy on Avenida Poblado. He had just come out of an ATM, was holding a big stack of cash in his hands counting it in the middle of the sidewalk, while yelling at the bus to find out if it went to El Centro. I felt like robbing him myself just to protect him from his own stupidity.

Knowledge
07-31-19, 13:55
I use uber unless I am in too much of a hurry to wait for one to arrive. I find it reassuring and convenient to not have to have cash and to know the GPS route. Uber records the route and driver so there is an audit trail. The downside as I mentioned is there is normally a longer wait to get an uber. Uber is usually a bit cheaper than taxis but taxis are so cheap to begin with that makes little difference.


Be careful about hailing a taxi on the streets around Parque Lleras. I usually use the Easy Taxi app (now changed to Cabify) or the Uber app to order a ride. Within the last year, I have encountered dishonest taxi drivers that I hailed off the streets around Parque Lleras. They either have a fast meter or turn their meter off and claim it doesn't work. If they turn the meter off, I get out and don't pay them anything. It's usually harder to notice the fast meters. Easy Taxi creates a record, so drivers tend to be honest.

Blue Touch
07-31-19, 14:05
Why do people on this forum always get so touchy when someone says Medellin is dangerous (even to tourists)? It's the truth.Because almost all members on the forum are mongers, they are 1) different from general (Western) adult population and 2) more homogeneous, in terms of cognitive mechanism, intellect and perception. As the result, the members tend to share illusion and bias, and often refuse to recognize a distinction between the reality and the world they imagine. Just like everybody else, the members tend to over-evaluate what they have and they can do while they under-estimate or dismiss what they don't have. Many members tend to maintain that North American women, who have rejected them, are ugly while Colombian women, who deal with them largely for financial reason, are beautiful. They believe that they visit Colombia because it is a wonderful place, rather than seeing that they just like the rampant prostitution and strong currency. They would vehemently oppose and attack any realistic and alternative picture. Similarly, the members tend to over-estimate that their financial ability makes them sexually attractive while they underestimate the impact of their appearance. Ignorance is a bliss, especially when people reinforce it each other.

Orgasmico
07-31-19, 14:58
Be careful. Been hearing a lot about it for awhile now.

Orgasmico
07-31-19, 15:04
All is well on the mongering scene in Medellin. Been doing a lot of facial shots lately. Girls have been great starting off with BBBJs and providing other extras without asking for a tip. I usually will tip 20 mil however for service that exceeds my expectations. Happy Hunting!

Mr Enternational
07-31-19, 17:20
Many members tend to maintain that North American women, who have rejected them, are ugly while Colombian women, who deal with them largely for financial reason, are beautiful.Whenever I travel and am with a woman from Colombia or wherever else, they talk about how beautiful American women are. Come to this board and I think I am from a different America than other people.


They believe that they visit Colombia because it is a wonderful place, rather than seeing that they just like the rampant prostitution and strong currency.They do not believe the first part; they just don't want to admit the second part. When people ask why I live in Thailand I tell them because it is hot and cheap. That goes for the place as well as the women.

Mr Enternational
07-31-19, 17:40
I use uber unless I am in too much of a hurry to wait for one to arrive. I find it reassuring and convenient to not have to have cash and to know the GPS route. Uber records the route and driver so there is an audit trail. The downside as I mentioned is there is normally a longer wait to get an uber. Uber is usually a bit cheaper than taxis but taxis are so cheap to begin with that makes little difference.Leaving the hotel in Bogota at 4:30am yesterday morning I called an Uber which would be 28K to the airport. He was going to arrive in 18 minutes and was coming from the airport! So I cancelled it and asked the hotel to call a taxi for me since the streets downtown were deserted and there was not one to be found. I asked the clerk how much it would cost and she said she did not know. The driver came quickly and as he put my bag in the trunk I asked him how much it would cost. 25K. That and from the airport to the hotel in Cali are the only times I used a taxi. The rest was Uber.

I was in Colombia (Cali and Bogota) from the 25th to the 30th. The only time I used an ATM was at the airport on arrival to take out 600K. I only used cash for the initial taxi, final taxi, at 3 mom and pop places to eat that did not take cards, and for entrance fee to a club that me and one of my chicks went to. (I did pay for the drinks with a card though.) Everywhere I went I used my American Express Platinum except for 2 places that did not take Amex (that club and 1 restaurant). At those 2 places I used my Schwab debit card. All non-pro chicks so I still have half of the money I took out left.

Orgasmico
07-31-19, 17:48
Just like everybody else, the members tend to over-evaluate what they have and they can do while they under-estimate or dismiss what they don't have. Many members tend to maintain that North American women, who have rejected them, are ugly while Colombian women, who deal with them largely for financial reason, are beautiful. They believe that they visit Colombia because it is a wonderful place, rather than seeing that they just like the rampant prostitution and strong currency. They would vehemently oppose and attack any realistic and alternative picture. Similarly, the members tend to over-estimate that their financial ability makes them sexually attractive while they underestimate the impact of their appearance. Ignorance is a bliss, especially when people reinforce it each other.Excellent post! Self awareness and honesty are very important.

Bill
07-31-19, 18:22
Because almost all members on the forum are mongers, they are 1) different from general (Western) adult population and 2) more homogeneous, in terms of cognitive mechanism, intellect and perception. As the result, the members tend to share illusion and bias, and often refuse to recognize a distinction between the reality and the world they imagine. Just like everybody else, the members tend to over-evaluate what they have and they can do while they under-estimate or dismiss what they don't have. Many members tend to maintain that North American women, who have rejected them, are ugly while Colombian women, who deal with them largely for financial reason, are beautiful. They believe that they visit Colombia because it is a wonderful place, rather than seeing that they just like the rampant prostitution and strong currency. They would vehemently oppose and attack any realistic and alternative picture. Similarly, the members tend to over-estimate that their financial ability makes them sexually attractive while they underestimate the impact of their appearance. Ignorance is a bliss, especially when people reinforce it each other.I concur. And might add that while some mongers acknowledge the dangers and use it to their benefit to heighten self awareness, the others prefer to hide their heads in the proverbial sand.

Its possible that admitting the truth might be so frightening they might actually think twice about what they are doing.

Some mongers may also be addicted to the local drug culture, that anything that might discourage this risky behavior is dismissed immediately.

Self preservation gets put on lower priority when bingeing toward that sexual release or chemical high.

Sailor Jim
07-31-19, 19:32
...Many members tend to maintain that North American women, who have rejected them, are ugly while Colombian women, who deal with them largely for financial reason, are beautiful. They believe that they visit Colombia because it is a wonderful place, rather than seeing that they just like the rampant prostitution and strong currency. They would vehemently oppose and attack any realistic and alternative picture. Similarly, the members tend to over-estimate that their financial ability makes them sexually attractive while they underestimate the impact of their appearance. Ignorance is a bliss, especially when people reinforce it each other.Those same guys say they come to Colombia because they love Latinas.

Have a friend a supreme monger who mongers all over the world. His #1 place to monger is the USA about 70% of the time as there are more hot chicks from all cultures there than just about any other country. The USA has more hot Latinas than Colombia. But he still mongers part time in the Caribbean and Medellin. Why? Because he has a boat docked in the Caribbean and he loves to sail around. He has an apartment in Medellin but he's only at it a few times a year. Why is the US his #1 monger destination? Because he's filthy rich. Just like every monger coming here on vacation. Back home they are the average Joe. Myself included of course. But at least I see the reality.

Face it if you're rolling in money you don't need to go to a 3rd world country to get laid. When's the last time you saw some corporate tycoon sluming in Bangkok or Costa Rica looking for pussy? They have babes spreading their legs begging them to come over and fuck. It's all about the Benjamins.

For the regular Joes coming here for a week or two on vacation it doesn't matter what you do or what you have back home or what your game is or isn't, in the eyes of these poor girls where the income disparity is drastic you're the corporate tycoon more or less.

Sailor Jim
07-31-19, 19:35
Be careful. Been hearing a lot about it for awhile now.Currently a huge problem. Have friends living in the Quinta Etapa high rises. They can't get a refrigerator repairman to come out from Haceb or even independants. It's so hot there recently you wouldn't catch me dead there. Or maybe you might!

The Tall Man
07-31-19, 20:01
Currently a huge problem. Have friends living in the Quinta Etapa high rises. They can't get a refrigerator repairman to come out from Haceb or even independants. It's so hot there recently you wouldn't catch me dead there. Or maybe you might!
Be careful. Been hearing a lot about it for awhile now.It is all true about Bello. I speak daily (video whatsapp) to a few girls whom I have known for a few years and they tell me that they don't go out after dark and they have never seen it so dangerous, drug gang territory mainly. They suggest not for me to pick them up at there houses but rather they take a taxi and I pick them up at the Niquia metro, the same when I drop them off.

Be careful out there.

The Tall Man.

Knowledge
07-31-19, 20:14
Quinta Etapa is known for low cost housing.


Currently a huge problem. Have friends living in the Quinta Etapa high rises. They can't get a refrigerator repairman to come out from Haceb or even independants. It's so hot there recently you wouldn't catch me dead there. Or maybe you might!

Knowledge
07-31-19, 21:51
- Bill Clinton.

- Rush Limbaugh.

- Lamar Odom (not as rich as he once was hence Sosua, but still a multimillionaire).

- Bob Menendez.

- Justin Bieber.

- Kevin Costner (Amsterdam).

And many others who are smart enough to keep it out of the press.

I agree with everything you said. You did not mention the phenomenon of people listed above. My opinion is they travel to avoid prying eyes and inconvenient laws, rather than for financial reasons.


Those same guys say they come to Colombia because they love Latinas.

Have a friend a supreme monger who mongers all over the world. His #1 place to monger is the USA about 70% of the time as there are more hot chicks from all cultures there than just about any other country. The USA has more hot Latinas than Colombia. But he still mongers part time in the Caribbean and Medellin. Why? Because he has a boat docked in the Caribbean and he loves to sail around. He has an apartment in Medellin but he's only at it a few times a year. Why is the US his #1 monger destination? Because he's filthy rich. Just like every monger coming here on vacation. Back home they are the average Joe. Myself included of course. But at least I see the reality.

Turgid
08-01-19, 01:29
Hit the ground running and checked out a few Centro casas. Did three sessions at three different casas. I got no GFE from all three. Got way better sessions at German FKKs recently but its early times still and the price is right. The worst was from Mariana at New Life whose first words to me on the bed were "sin beso" - What a mood killer! I still miraculously was able to shag her as she had a cute face and firm body. Mariana was the second cutist at New Life but a Colombian bloke beat me to Juliana who I will return to New Life for. The other casas I sessioned in were Chicas.com and Aife. Of all the Centro casas I visited New Life had the most and best chicas, I may have just chosen a bad one. I will be back. Beware some casas take payment first, New Life takes after which I appreciate. At Aife although you pay after they will knock on the door. I prefer when they don't do that and just let me pay for the time I spent, they interrupted my session with cute Daniella after half an hour, I spent an hour with her and struggled to get just one climax in as I was spent.

Combo
08-01-19, 01:37
There's a difference between being kidnapped and murdered and dying in a car accident because you or someone else wasn't paying attention. Big difference.

Why do people on this forum always get so touchy when someone says Medellin is dangerous (even to tourists)? It's the truth. The city has a long history of crime and, while things have improved, violent crime continues to pervade the city.The more interesting question is why do people on this forum either insist it's completely safe or say that it's terribly dangerous. It's neither, it's obviously in that gray area between. It's a disservice to newbies to insist it's either one of these polar opposites.

Knowledge
08-01-19, 02:52
Shit happens but more often than not it's safe.


The more interesting question is why do people on this forum either insist it's completely safe or say that it's terribly dangerous. It's neither, it's obviously in that gray area between. It's a disservice to newbies to insist it's either one of these polar opposites.

Surfer500
08-01-19, 04:49
It is all true about Bello. I speak daily (video whatsapp) to a few girls whom I have known for a few years and they tell me that they don't go out after dark and they have never seen it so dangerous, drug gang territory mainly. They suggest not for me to pick them up at there houses but rather they take a taxi and I pick them up at the Niquia metro, the same when I drop them off.

Be careful out there.
S
The Tall Man.My favorite girl lives in Paris, a barrio in Bello. She sends me a message three days ago that while on the bus from work to where she lives in Paris, four "hombres" get on the bus, two with knives and two with guns and basically took everybody's things of value such as money, phones, etc. There were nine passengers including the conductor.

We mostly hear on this board about the instances involving gringos, however the Colombians are just as much targets as we are, and more so.

Surfer500
08-01-19, 05:01
All is well on the mongering scene in Medellin. Been doing a lot of facial shots lately. Girls have been great starting off with BBBJs and providing other extras without asking for a tip. I usually will tip 20 mil however for service that exceeds my expectations. Happy Hunting!She looks as though she was in complete agony when you shot your load on her face. I would not like to have been a fly on the wall witnessing this.

Anyways, if she didn't collect your cum with her fingers and put it in her mouth and swallow it, than she was being very disrespectful of you and doesn't deserve a tip!

Baudelairemod
08-01-19, 08:37
I concur. And might add that while some mongers acknowledge the dangers and use it to their benefit to heighten self awareness, the others prefer to hide their heads in the proverbial sand.

Its possible that admitting the truth might be so frightening they might actually think twice about what they are doing.

Some mongers may also be addicted to the local drug culture, that anything that might discourage this risky behavior is dismissed immediately.

Self preservation gets put on lower priority when bingeing toward that sexual release or chemical high.Hi Bill,

What sort of local drug culture are you referring to? I personally found Medellin to be on the low end of the drug culture curve compared to most western cities.

BM.

JjBee62
08-01-19, 10:45
The more interesting question is why do people on this forum either insist it's completely safe or say that it's terribly dangerous. It's neither, it's obviously in that gray area between. It's a disservice to newbies to insist it's either one of these polar opposites.Is it safe or dangerous is the wrong question. Is a hammer safe or dangerous to use? All depends on how you use the hammer and whether you know how to use it.

Safety is mostly determined by the individual, not the environment. Take responsibility for your own safety and your risk becomes negligible.

YippieKayay
08-01-19, 12:55
Hi Bill,

What sort of local drug culture are you referring to? I personally found Medellin to be on the low end of the drug culture curve compared to most western cities.

BM.You mean its normal to be constantly offered drugs as you walk around a nice area like Parque LLeras? That's the same as most western cities?

I was staying in a nice apartment that happened to be next door to a hostel. Every night some wacked out drug dealer, with crazy red eyes, with stand in front of the hostel and scream "you want some marijuana? You want some cocaine? HEY YOU WANT GIRLS?" And to make matters more hilarious there was a police station right next door to the hostel. If you walked down that street and looked up there was always some police chief type standing on the roof of the police station looking down with a dirty look.

Orgasmico
08-01-19, 12:58
- Bill Clinton.

- Rush Limbaugh.

- Lamar Odom (not as rich as he once was hence Sosua, but still a multimillionaire).

- Bob Menendez.

- Justin Bieber.

- Kevin Costner (Amsterdam).

I agree with everything you said. You did not mention the phenomenon of people listed above. My opinion is they travel to avoid prying eyes and inconvenient laws, rather than for financial reasons.Obviously, there are always exceptions to the RULE.

Crack head Odom who just got cut from the Big 3 might have gone to Sosua (which has become as common as Freaknic in Atlanta) on a one off, but that is much different than guys that go there every other month specifically to monger. Also, obviously Odom doesn't have to go to Sosua to get laid lol.

Likewise a person with loot that travels somewhere for some other purpose (e. g., NBA in Rio during Olympics) and pays for some night time entertainment because he happens to be there is obviously much different than a person who habitually travels specifically to monger in countries where he can take advantage of rampant prostitution and geographical arbitrage.

Sailor Jim
08-01-19, 14:27
- Bill Clinton.

- Rush Limbaugh.

- Lamar Odom (not as rich as he once was hence Sosua, but still a multimillionaire).

- Bob Menendez.

- Justin Bieber.

- Kevin Costner (Amsterdam).

And many others who are smart enough to keep it out of the press.

I agree with everything you said. You did not mention the phenomenon of people listed above. My opinion is they travel to avoid prying eyes and inconvenient laws, rather than for financial reasons.I purposely did not mention the phenomenon of the people listed above. I will speculate that in most cases above they happened to be there to party and cheap pussy on the side was available. It might not have been the sole purpose of their trip. OR. Maybe it was (Bill Clinton flew to Costa Rica to get laid?) Maybe they were hiding from a wife or the press and were just looking for some strange but not right in their back yards.

Whatever it may be the difference is that all the folks you mentioned are famous and that adds a different layer. My post was mentioning the corporate tycoon, guys making USD $800,000, $900,000 K and up, or guys that don't work but inherited a trust fund, own a few houses, a $175,000 car, penthouse in a large city. Not the superstar on the covers of magazines. But point taken.

In the eyes of the Colombianas living in estrato 1-3 we are viewed as that rich guy, same as the USA woman views the tycoon. Guys in the western world who are really rich or filthy rich can get laid in their home country like we do here in Colombia if they want to: pros or non pros. Just like us here. You'd be surprised how many nice USA ladies turn into prostitutes when big bundles of cash come their way. You'd be surprised how many super hot Western women, porn stars, models, aspiring actress etc hotter than any Colombian posted here are already escorts charing $1,000 a night BBFS. To the tycoon $1,000 is what he spends at dinner in a fancy restaurant. It's all relative.

Sailor Jim
08-01-19, 14:37
The more interesting question is why do people on this forum either insist it's completely safe or say that it's terribly dangerous. It's neither, it's obviously in that gray area between. It's a disservice to newbies to insist it's either one of these polar opposites.Also never considered is the wide range of readers of this forum. Ones guy's "I sense danger, I'm nervous" is another guy's "no big deal we got this shit at home".

Sangnyc21
08-01-19, 14:48
Those same guys say they come to Colombia because they love Latinas.

Have a friend a supreme monger who mongers all over the world. His #1 place to monger is the USA about 70% of the time as there are more hot chicks from all cultures there than just about any other country. The USA has more hot Latinas than Colombia. But he still mongers part time in the Caribbean and Medellin. Why? Because he has a boat docked in the Caribbean and he loves to sail around. He has an apartment in Medellin but he's only at it a few times a year. Why is the US his #1 monger destination? Because he's filthy rich. Just like every monger coming here on vacation. Back home they are the average Joe. Myself included of course. But at least I see the reality.

Face it if you're rolling in money you don't need to go to a 3rd world country to get laid. When's the last time you saw some corporate tycoon sluming in Bangkok or Costa Rica looking for pussy? They have babes spreading their legs begging them to come over and fuck. It's all about the Benjamins.

For the regular Joes coming here for a week or two on vacation it doesn't matter what you do or what you have back home or what your game is or isn't, in the eyes of these poor girls where the income disparity is drastic you're the corporate tycoon more or less.While I agree that it's all about the $$. I disagree that mongering in the US is the best. Even the girls who charge 500-1000 $ an hour are not that hot.

You can find a hot sugar baby or have an hour with a porn star.

But on average I do believe Colombian not Latin women but Colombian women in general are much more attractive.

Also for me personally I love how Colombian women with some class really take good care of themselves and have excellent hygiene.

I've had multiple experiences with girls who charged more than 500 $ and up where the pussy just absolutely stunk I paid them to jerk me pff and leave.

I think most people monger in their hometown because of the convenience as well.

D Cups
08-01-19, 15:12
While I agree that it's all about the $$. I disagree that mongering in the US is the best. Even the girls who charge 500-1000 $ an hour are not that hot.

True. I live in and. California and do not have anything positive to say about American women, even the hookers except I do have an arrangement with a brown sugar here for $40/ BBBJ this is just a lucky find. She is not good looking but provides excellent service. The Filipinas and Latinas (Mexicans, Dominicanas, Venezuelans) provide much better GFE than anyplace I've been including German FKK. I will make my debut in MDE in November and look forward to sampling the Colombian cuisine.

Sailor Jim
08-01-19, 15:27
While I agree that it's all about the $$. I disagree that mongering in the US is the best. Even the girls who charge 500-1000 $ an hour are not that hot.

You can find a hot sugar baby or have an hour with a porn star.

But on average I do believe Colombian not Latin women but Colombian women in general are much more attractive.

Also for me personally I love how Colombian women with some class really take good care of themselves and have excellent hygiene.

I've had multiple experiences with girls who charged more than 500 $ and up where the pussy just absolutely stunk I paid them to jerk me pff and leave.

I think most people monger in their hometown because of the convenience as well.Just like here in Colombia there are girls charging the big bucks that are just not that hot. Or when you go to a casa or strip club and the price is the same for all the girls. Big fat ugly hogs and the ones you will take, both groups for the same price. You got to pick your pussy wisely and assess the price before and after if you are considering a repeat. In any country.

The overall advantage I think is 1.) living and / or spending the majority of your time in the place where you monger and 2.) being able to afford it in that place.

So having all that time you weed out the bad ones are are left with the best deals, cream of the crop women in your rotation (the ex / current girlfriend who you travel and go on vaca with, Christmas eve, your maid who you pulled out of new life 8 years ago who cleans your pipes every morning, a few pot smoking party skanks, a few other respectables, whatever your mood you've got a solid 6-10 rotation, a wide variety for every occasion). Just ask anyone living here full time for over 5-10 years how often they go out on the hunt to a strip club, internet, street walkers or casas (when they are not a wingman to a buddy). The thought of having to go out, wear a rubber, prospect, put up with some smelly pussy or games or drama often trumps the thrill of prospecting hamburgers when you got a rolodex of champagne, steak and lobster who will do exactly what you're in the mood for, show up on time etc. Just a message away.

My point is the retired, single, non famous rich guy I mentioned who loves to monger in the USA lives there (although he has the means to live anywhere) and has a stable of babes he has cultivated over the years, many of which are not in the biz anymore but still see him. They are all cream of the crop girls, all colors shapes and sizes. He gets referrals for new babes. I am in the same boat as that guy but here in Colombia because I don't have the means to pull it off like he does in the USA.

Point is just about any country or large city with a good variety of babes will work if you have the financial means and live there.

Orgasmico
08-01-19, 15:27
But on average I do believe Colombian not Latin women but Colombian women in general are much more attractive.

I can only speak for Medellin since I haven't lived in other parts of Colombia. There are a lot of beautiful women here no doubt, but also many that aren't so attractive. Per capita, I think Meddy is very good in terms of beauty. I've only visited some of the other cities here in Colombia and I think it varies depending on the city.

As far as the USA, there are definitely many attractive women, especially in places like NYC, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, California, South Florida and so on. Like Colombia, I think it varies by city and depending on one's taste.

I don't monger in the USA so I can't speak to that, but growing up as a kid when Times Square was rockin I definitely saw many beautiful woman that could keep me in the states.

Baudelairemod
08-01-19, 16:34
You mean its normal to be constantly offered drugs as you walk around a nice area like Parque LLeras? That's the same as most western cities?

I was staying in a nice apartment that happened to be next door to a hostel. Every night some wacked out drug dealer, with crazy red eyes, with stand in front of the hostel and scream "you want some marijuana? You want some cocaine? HEY YOU WANT GIRLS?" And to make matters more hilarious there was a police station right next door to the hostel. If you walked down that street and looked up there was always some police chief type standing on the roof of the police station looking down with a dirty look.Ok maybe you're right in respect of that but I can guarantee that young people in western countries are a lot more familiar (probably because they can afford them) with drugs that go beyond weed and blow. All you get in Medellin is crappy weed and whatever the hell tusi is. Obviously their main import is still of good quality but trust me, the range and frequency of consumption among the locals is nowhere near other European or American levels (in the cities at least).

I'm just saying let's be wary of assuming that some two bit dealer offering drugs in Parque Lleras to some tourists is indicative of a massive drug culture locally. I'm also not sure Parque Lleras is still the very nice part of Medellin anymore.

To be fair this reminds me of when I went to NY and stayed right by Times Square. I was honestly shocked at how rough and unsavoury the place was. I remember having to walk over a passed out junkie with a needle still in his arms. IN TIMES SQUARE.

Ty Down
08-01-19, 19:02
I was staying in a nice apartment that happened to be next door to a hostel. Every night some wacked out drug dealer, with crazy red eyes, with stand in front of the hostel and scream "you want some marijuana? You want some cocaine? HEY YOU WANT GIRLS?" And to make matters more hilarious there was a police station right next door to the hostel. If you walked down that street and looked up there was always some police chief type standing on the roof of the police station looking down with a dirty look.Sounds like you were staying at the LifeAfar apartments next to the KIWI Hostel in El Poblado. Nice place. I stayed there last summer and I had the same experience with the crazy drug pushers. There was a constant stream of college aged backpackers in and out of the Kiwi Hostel. I would sit on the steps in the evenings and chat with the girls who were backpacking, some were some real hotties but I never hooked up with one, probably could have, but I didn't really go for it, just enjoyed meeting the young girls from all over the world.

I really liked the area, except when the sun went down the drug slingers would come out of the wood work, they were a real pain in the ass.

Chicafan
08-01-19, 19:21
While I agree that it's all about the $$. I disagree that mongering in the US is the best. Even the girls who charge 500-1000 $ an hour are not that hot.
You can find a hot sugar baby or have an hour with a porn star.
But on average I do believe Colombian not Latin women but Colombian women in general are much more attractive.Agreed. A friend of mine here in California- yes a real friend and only a friend- is on SA and gets hundreds of dollars a session, sometimes offered more. I wouldn't touch her, she's a skank imo and I'm not trying to be mean or insulting. I don't see how guys pay that for that kind of action. I think it's true that the multi millionaire can monger in the US and pay the high prices but I also think there are many many men that monger in the US and pay high prices that they really cannot afford. I don't want an American or typical California Latina prostitute near my home and I'm not staying in a hotel to get laid. I'm happy to travel for it- great adventures.

Orgasmico
08-01-19, 21:29
Or when you go to a casa or strip club and the price is the same for all the girls. Big fat ugly hogs and the ones you will take, both groups for the same price. You got to pick your pussy wisely and assess the price before and after if you are considering a repeat. In any country.

El Poblado and El Centro. There is something for everyone. And plenty of fuglies around Veracruz, Casas, Strip Clubs as well as diamonds in the ruff as well.

The Tall Man
08-01-19, 21:33
El Poblado and El Centro. There is something for everyone. And plenty of fuglies around Veracruz, Casas, Strip Clubs as well as diamonds in the ruff as well.So true, you just need patience and a bit of effort and before long you will understand the possibilities but if your the type that does not have time / patience and just want to shoot a fish in a barrel then centro may not be for you.

The Tall Man.

Surfer500
08-01-19, 22:52
El Poblado and El Centro. There is something for everyone. And plenty of fuglies around Veracruz, Casas, Strip Clubs as well as diamonds in the ruff as well.If your into "fuglies" you have hit the Jackpot in El Centro!

There are so many fat, ugly, and disgusting Venezuelan Chicas in El Centro now who have invaded and taken over the park in front of the Museum and the walking area to the Veracruz Church. I wish things were better in their Country and they would go back home. I liked the area much more before they invaded this area. I know there are other's on this board who are in pig heaven with all this abundant cheap pussy, but it has driven a lot of the Colombians out, and they are not happy campers with what as been happening.