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JerkMcGerk
08-15-19, 01:19
Am I wrong in saying that there is no better place to monger in the world right now? I'd love an opinion saying there are better places with better GFE for the price. I have wanted to go to Thailand for a while, but the prices seem out of control for the girls (not including the flight). Medellin just keeps bringing me back.

RudeBwoy100
08-15-19, 02:33
Hey guys,

I live in Jamaica & I have a Scotiabank bank (Canadian bank) a / see & visa debit card, my account is in Jamaican currency and not USA the. Would I have any issues withdrawing Colombian pesos from the ATM? I Plan on bringing a small amount of cash ($200 usd or so) to exchange at the airport and then withdraw the rest at ATM's, do you think I would have any issues?

Also, how's Colombia in October & November?

JjBee62
08-15-19, 03:13
I know it's not the same for every girl but in general. I know 150 mil is average for a session. Does it include BBBJ, multiple pop, CIM, etc. I know it's best to talk with the girl about all the extra before the session but that make it too much of a business transaction. And I know it is a transaction but I don't want to make it so damn obvious. I prefer GFE or at least the illusion of it. If the girl ask for tip for extra, is 20-50 mil a reasonable tip.

And what about todo la noche price? 300 mil on average?

Thanks.4 little words: "Your Mileage May Vary. ".

Almost every Facebook girl I've been with has been fine with BBBJ. I never ask for CIM.

As for multiple pops, that's a definite YMMV item. I've had several offer and or try. However, they were all girls who really enjoyed the session.

If you have a long list of requirements, you should clear everything up before. You should also expect the price to go up. If she's going to do more than usual, she will want to be paid more than usual.

Personally, I never bother with any of that. We chat, agree on a price and a time and I go from there. If she's not into kissing me, I'm not pushing it. If she doesn't want to do BBBJ, fine. If there's a position she doesn't like, skip it. If I'm doing my part, those things are almost never an issue.

Toda la noche is generally double the amount. If she's asking for 200 k, she'll probably want 400 k for overnight.

Nounce
08-15-19, 06:17
Can you be more specific of the location? The park you mentioned is it "Plaza Botero"? The museo de Antioquia is right next to it (on google map). And the Veracruz church you mentioned is it between Calle 52 and Calle 51? Trying to pinpoint the location down so I know exactly where to go when I arrive.It is a small area with only a few buildings between them. Once you are there, you won't miss it based the description.

ElAventurero
08-15-19, 07:26
So is Medellin the best place in Colombia?

Mr Enternational
08-15-19, 07:38
Am I wrong in saying that there is no better place to monger in the world right now? I'd love an opinion saying there are better places with better GFE for the price. I have wanted to go to Thailand for a while, but the prices seem out of control for the girlsAs with anywhere else, it would depend on where you get your girls. In Medellin you can go to Gusto's and get a girl for $300 or have a casa chick come and stay when she gets off work for $40. In Thailand you can go to a gogo bar and spend $200 to get a chick or you can do like I have done for the last umpteen years and get a freelancer to come stay all night for $30. This is a free one, but you get the idea...

ColombiaLover
08-15-19, 07:44
I would not be surprised. I have not talked to her in a while, but she goes with volume. And she's gotten a little chubby since she got her fake boobs and ass. So 150 K is very believable.


I find it hard to believe that a popular Facebook chica like Yisela Restrepo who has several photos of herself at Energy Living, Blux and other hotels such as the Charlee and Dann Carlton is coming out for $150 K. That Energy Living place looks nice.

JayToStore
08-15-19, 08:42
Great report Jaytosore! Don't worry too much about if you overpaid for the girls. It was your first time in Colombia so you can now use that experience on your future visits. Sounds like you had a good time with most of the girls so that is all that matters. That girl in the pic you posted she's pretty cute, I would rate her a 7/10 as oppose to 5/10. Are those pics recent or are they old?From few weeks back. Sorry amount of Plastic girls in Colombia made my rating system go haywire LOL.

JjBee62
08-15-19, 10:25
Can you be more specific of the location? The park you mentioned is it "Plaza Botero"? The museo de Antioquia is right next to it (on google map). And the Veracruz church you mentioned is it between Calle 52 and Calle 51? Trying to pinpoint the location down so I know exactly where to go when I arrive.Find the museum. If you're facing the entrance, you're standing in the park, Plaza Botero. It's impossible to miss, since it's full of Botero statues. Now turn left. Walk until you see a white church on your right. That's Iglesia Veracruz. On the south side of the church there's a pedestrian street. That's the walkway.

To get your bearings. Facing the Museo de Antioquia, you are facing west. Behind you, to the east is the metro. Or if you prefer, on the east side of the plaza is the Palace of Culture, something else impossible to miss. Conejitas is to the north. Veracruz church is to the south.

JjBee62
08-15-19, 10:49
Am I wrong in saying that there is no better place to monger in the world right now? I'd love an opinion saying there are better places with better GFE for the price. I have wanted to go to Thailand for a while, but the prices seem out of control for the girls (not including the flight). Medellin just keeps bringing me back.Yes, you're wrong.

You're wrong because it's subjective. Somewhere there's a guy who thinks an Asian Massage Parlor in Indianapolis is the greatest spot in the world, and he's paying $240 for 30 minutes of CFS and CBJ, from a girl who's doing 10-15 guys a day, without a shower.

For me, Medellin is currently the best. I have friends there. I know my way around the city. I know where to find the girls I want no matter what my mood is. I know where to eat, where to drink and where to go when I don't know what I want to do. The climate is always in my comfort zone. I even had an umbrella at my friend's apartment until someone stole it last month.

The prices for everything are reasonable, the people are friendly, the public transportation is cheap and efficient. I also know enough of the language to get by.

However, if I spent a year in Thailand, Vietnam, Russia, Germany, Brazil, or just about anywhere else (assuming it was in my budget), I'd probably like that place the best. Or maybe after 3 weeks I'd be wishing I was back in Medellin.

I would like to experience Macau before I get too old to enjoy it. That probably won't happen since I'm beginning to suspect I'm already too old to enjoy it.

Surfer500
08-15-19, 12:55
I will confirm. I made a few tours of El Centro last month.

The lineup on Veracruz and Raudal looked about the same as I remember it from Feb / March of 2018. However, Botero Plaza had a lot of girls hanging around. I'm assuming they were Venezuelan. I'd guess between 30-50 in the early afternoon.

I disagree with your assessment though. There were quite a few fat ones. There were several older ones. There was even one who I'll call "hammerhead", you've probably seen her. But there were also several who looked pretty good to me. I also noticed a few more better looking ones along Veracruz too.Yes there are quite a few fat and ugly ones I call "fuglies" but as of lately there have been some prettier thin ones. And since March of your last visit there has been a large influx of them. Thanks for confirming my observations, hopefully others including my skeptics can partake in the bounty as there are plenty to go around if your into SW's and are not looking for a beauty queen!

I'm headed there this morning looking for a new Vene to add to my stable.

Surfer500
08-15-19, 13:16
Can you be more specific of the location? The park you mentioned is it "Plaza Botero"? The museo de Antioquia is right next to it (on google map). And the Veracruz church you mentioned is it between Calle 52 and Calle 51? Trying to pinpoint the location down so I know exactly where to go when I arrive.You have the location correct, to better orientate yourself, go to the main entrance of the Museum, stand in front of the Museum and look towards the Metro line. There will be lots of statues there and a park. There are girls scattered around sitting in the park, on the benches, etc. The highest concentration of girls will be standing at the intersection of Carrera 52 and Calle 52 to the north side of the Museum, also there are lots of girls hanging close by to the ice cream / yogurt stand on the corner at that intersection. There are girls out early in the morning in the park directly in front of the Museum but the best times are late afternoon. And besides this area, you can go down a block to Carrea 51 which has a string of bars with lots of girls hanging out in front. I don't usually pull girls from this area. There are Vennies there, however the greatest concentration is in the area I mentioned as a lot of the Vennies stay apart from the Colombians as they have invaded their turf. If your looking for beauty queens and / or have no Spanish speaking skills, I suggest you go to New Life, as that suits others better than the SW scene. There are lots of fuglies out there, but some gems can be found with patience. Please post your observations after trolling the area.

Orgasmico
08-15-19, 13:28
I wish there was a Latin version of Pattaya or AC with all Latina pussies as oppose to Asians.Isn't that more or less Rio? I know vets that were there when Help was open still talk about it being the #1 spot for mongering.

Fun Luvr
08-15-19, 14:46
I use WhatsApp on my Iphone here in USA but understand that a new phone or SIM card is needed once in MDE. I would welcome advice on finding complete understanding of the cellphone & WhatsApp solution in MDE. Thank you.You don't need to change anything to use Whatsapp in Medellin. Some people say you should get a Colombian sim card because that will make the ladies think you live there. To me, that is nonsense. In fact, you can take the sim card out of your phone and still use Whatsapp. It is only needed when you register with Whatsapp or you change phones. Whatsapp uses the Internet, not cell phone companies. You can get a Colombian sim card if you want to call or text people in Medellin. Even that will not affect your Whatsapp.

Mojo Bandit
08-15-19, 15:16
You don't need to change anything to use Whatsapp in Medellin. Whatsapp uses the Internet, not cell phone companies. You can get a Colombian sim card if you want to call or text people in Medellin. Even that will not affect your Whatsapp.I am glad to know this, I use Verizon and they use CDMA technology which does not have carriers in every country. I used to use a "travel phone' that was a multiband and would work anywhere once a bought a SIM card in a given country. Now I have a Google Pixel phone and whenever I get ready to go out of the country I buy a SIM card from Google on their Google Fi program. Google Fi gets service in 200 hundred countries Texting is free anywhere in the world but they charge 20 cents a minute for calls (how many actual calls does anyone make) . Plus I have a phone in my hand as soon as I hit the ground. I have had banking problems and apartment problems in the past when I needed my phone as soon as I arrived. My phone can also use wifi for calls, as I think most later model phones can, and then its free. Last time I checked the Google fi SIM cards only work on Google phones though. Damn that sounded like I was schilling for google, I'm not, but it is a very handy thing when traveling) But I do have to change my phone number to a phone number I have registered with Google. But even though my number changes, everything else in my phone stays the same, I. E. My contacts will still be there, The only hassle is to let anyone that I will be contacting know what my travel number is before I leave so they know who is calling or texting. I was worried that I would have to reload all those contacts from Whatsapp, but from what you say I just have to let the people not in whatsapp no what my number will be when I am traveling.

The Tall Man
08-15-19, 15:18
Isn't that more or less Rio? I know vets that were there when Help was open still talk about it being the #1 spot for mongering.Yes HELP in Rio brings back many fond memories for me on my 2 visits / stays in Rio back in 2000, fuck 19 years ago and just reading the name stirs up shit in the bowels of my soul, heck I wonder if people will still be talking about HELP 50 or 100 years from now, hehehehe, I fell in love (lust) every night I walked into HELP and sometime wonder where those cuties that I wifed up with ended up, probably 5 kids by 4 different dudes and living in a favela in Rio, sad but reality of life in Brazil.

The Tall Man.

PolloNegro
08-15-19, 15:35
I use WhatsApp on my Iphone here in USA but understand that a new phone or SIM card is needed once in MDE. I would welcome advice on finding complete understanding of the cellphone & WhatsApp solution in MDE. Thank you.Control's your WhatsApp account, not the sim card. If you arrive in a new country and log in with your old email, all of your old contacts and everything will load to the new phone, it's not that complicated. Pollo Negro is out!

The Tall Man
08-15-19, 15:45
I have been in Medellin now for close to three weeks and I am yet to see the multitude of Venezuelans of which you speak. Firstly, there are much less in the casas than when I was last here in April. There are much less beggars holding signs stating (Soy Venezuelano etc. "). I have been walking all over El Centro looking for the Vene beauties with very little success. So far I have only sessioned Colombian street walkers and would definitely not pass on quality Venez punani if found. Where are they? Surfer, thanks for your input but I would really like other mongers to tell me what I'm doing wrong. I'm thinking that those I saw last April have moved on to somewhere else.
Wow, good to know from someone on the ground. Maybe they went back to Venezuela? Have you been to Bogota? Supposedly there are lots of Venezuela girls in Santa Fe? I'm planning to go to Cucuta, which I know for sure will be full of them.
Turgid, you are doing nothing wrong, I have not been specific as to where I have seen them all and it hasn't been in the Casa's or the bars, but specifically in and around the Park directly in front of the Museum and the pedestrian walkway to the Veracruz Church. The last few days I have seen more of them then I have ever seen, and if you go there around 4 in the afternoon you will just end up shaking your head as to how many there are..I agree with Surfer observation and I too hear the same and experience the same. Just yesterday I spent 6 hours doing normal stuff with a Venezuelan girl I befriended at one of those small bars and we hit it off and so I invited her to spend the day with me, get this I have not banged this beauty yet but working on it, know that some of them take some time to break through but when you do you get a sweet and fun loving cutie, They are a bit different of culture from the Colombian putas when it comes to partying and fucking.

The fact is that the Venezuelans are in every nook and cranny in Medellin, I mean everywhere and yes I have never seen so many chicas in Botero and the Vera as there are now. This last Sunday I sat in the museum cafe patio, which adjacent to the Botero plaza, and sipping my coffee for almost 2 hours and watched and observed the people and was in awe how many workers were out in the afternoon.

I will undoubtedly be out in Botero this afternoon and expect to see the same numbers.

The Tall Man.

PolloNegro
08-15-19, 15:47
I am glad to know this, I use Verizon and they use CDMA technology which does not have carriers in every country. I used to use a "travel phone' that was a multiband and would work anywhere once a bought a SIM card in a given country. Now I have a Google Pixel phone and whenever I get ready to go out of the country I buy a SIM card from Google on their Google Fi program. Google Fi gets service in 200 hundred countries Texting is free anywhere in the world but they charge 20 cents a minute for calls (how many actual calls does anyone make) . Plus I have a phone in my hand as soon as I hit the ground. I have had banking problems and apartment problems in the past when I needed my phone as soon as I arrived. My phone can also use wifi for calls, as I think most later model phones can, and then its free. Last time I checked the Google fi SIM cards only work on Google phones though. Damn that sounded like I was schilling for google, I'm not, but it is a very handy thing when traveling) But I do have to change my phone number to a phone number I have registered with Google. But even though my number changes, everything else in my phone stays the same, I. E. My contacts will still be there, The only hassle is to let anyone that I will be contacting know what my travel number is before I leave so they know who is calling or texting. I was worried that I would have to reload all those contacts from Whatsapp, but from what you say I just have to let the people not in whatsapp no what my number will be when I am traveling.Verizon and Sprint phones will only work in Colombia with google-Fi because they use CDMA, those particular bands are not available in Colombia, unless you're using Google-Fi. AT&T, T-Mobile, and Metro PCS phones work in Colombia with simply changing the SIM Card. If the phone is unlocked, but it is a Verizon, Boost, or Sprint phones, they will not work, I have tried, trust me on this. The easiest way is to have a travel phone, but to each his own. Right now I own a Samsung A50 with a dual SIM card, I use it in the US under metro PCS and in Colombia under Claro. I have a friend who buys my a monthly plan for 40,000 cop the day before I arrive and as soon as I land, I turn on the claro sim card and boom, I'm up and running. The funny thing is this, I paid about $225 usd for this Samsung A50 and it has a really good camera on the phone while in Colombia earlier this year. The same phone is nearly $425 usd in the united states. If you want to minimize the amount of a travel phone, go into any pawn shop and look for a metro or unlocked Samsung J3 prime phone, they are going for about $50-$75 usd and they will do everything you need while in Medellin, a SIM card is $5,000 cop, and a monthly plan is $40,000 cop for a total of about $17 usd. So once again, the easiest way to handle the phone situation in Colombia, come to Colombia with Google Fi or have a cheap unlocked phone to insert a Colombian sim and then by a cheap monthly plan. Pollo Negro is out!

PolloNegro
08-15-19, 15:52
Mr Enternational,

The best way to close a deal in Colombia, is to have boots on the ground and negotiate when you are present. This is a business for these girls with all having different reasons for being in it, but one outcome, to obtain as many pesos as possible. A girl can tell you through facebook that she will date you for $150,000 cop and another Gringo has her on a date and offering $200,000 cop for a few more hours, what do you think the chica is going to do? You get the idea. Pollo Negro is out!

Surfer500
08-15-19, 16:18
I am glad to know this, I use Verizon and they use CDMA technology which does not have carriers in every country.I have Verizon with International service and my phone works here just like in the USA. If your carrier is Verizon all you need to do is add an International Plan of which they have an option that costs $ 10 a day. With the plan I have I can receive and make calls from anywhere in Colombia as though as I was at home. As an example, if I want to call someone in the USA I just go to contacts and the number is dialed. As far as Whatsapp, Tinder, or anything else it works in Colombia just like at home with the Verizon service I have which is expensive, but very reliable. I have used my phone all over the world, IE; for UBER etc. And it's been like I never left the USA. So if you have Verizon service your best option might just be adding International service versus having to change SIM cards.

Turgid
08-15-19, 16:22
Hey guys,

I live in Jamaica & I have a Scotiabank bank (Canadian bank) a / see & visa debit card, my account is in Jamaican currency and not USA the. Would I have any issues withdrawing Colombian pesos from the ATM? I Plan on bringing a small amount of cash ($200 usd or so) to exchange at the airport and then withdraw the rest at ATM's, do you think I would have any issues?

Also, how's Colombia in October & November?There is a Scotiabank ATM in Poblado in the vicinity of opposite the Holiday Inn Express so you should have no problem with ATM. Call your local bank before leaving. Nevertheless I would advise on bringing requisite amount of cash depending on your length of stay. Colombia is great any time of year.

Turgid
08-15-19, 16:29
I will confirm. I made a few tours of El Centro last month.

The lineup on Veracruz and Raudal looked about the same as I remember it from Feb / March of 2018. However, Botero Plaza had a lot of girls hanging around. I'm assuming they were Venezuelan. I'd guess between 30-50 in the early afternoon.

I disagree with your assessment though. There were quite a few fat ones. There were several older ones. There was even one who I'll call "hammerhead", you've probably seen her. But there were also several who looked pretty good to me. I also noticed a few more better looking ones along Veracruz too.Perhaps I'm seeing Venezuelans and don't recognize them as such. However, I session the hottest ones I see and am yet to session a Venezuelan streetwalker.

Turgid
08-15-19, 16:52
................I wish there was a Latin version of Pattaya or AC with all Latina pussies as oppose to Asians.Its called Sosua.

Chicafan
08-15-19, 17:38
I would not be surprised. I have not talked to her in a while, but she goes with volume. And she's gotten a little chubby since she got her fake boobs and ass. So 150 K is very believable.I think you're right. She's narcissistic like most of them so if you have a good situation to offer where she can take some photos and does not have a better opportunity she would probably do it. But be aware that between the time a date is made and she's supposed to be on her way a better offer could be made. I don't know if she would do that but I think it happens so that's the risk when you offer low. I've never been with her but since I follow her I see that every now and then some poor guy went all out with gifts, champagne, and hors the'oeuvres.


Isn't that more or less Rio? I know vets that were there when Help was open still talk about it being the #1 spot for mongering.Help was good but sometimes I would spend the days and evenings in Termas and skip Help. Undoubtedly there were good girls and great times to be had in Help. The Termas were often incredible so by the time I made it to Help at midnight it didn't matter to me if I hooked up. Some people would come to Rio only for Help but to me, on its own, it was not that great a draw. I mean, I would not fly to Rio and spend my days hanging around the beach only to go to Help at night. Termas were more productive to me though I would use Help, Termas, and sites like riosexsite.com . Altogether it was a field day.

However, I don't believe the girls in Rio are that much better than Colombia. There were some stunners in Rio and I'm sure there are still. Some of the girls have the most incredible asses. But I have never been in Medellin wishing instead I were in Rio. I feel safer in Medellin and I have much better relationships with people in Colombia. Also of note is that you can fly to MDE in half the time and spend quite a lot less money. I can do two trips to Colombia for the price of a trip to Rio. However, the dollar is gaining strength on the Real so who knows.

Check out the Brazil photo gallery. If you ever have a couple of weeks in Medellin you could fly Copa or Avianca overnight and spend a few days in Rio. I've seen first-class tickets for something like $650 MDE GIG. Their Summer months are late November through April so that's when you want to be there.

Big Boss Man
08-15-19, 17:47
4 little words: "Your Mileage May Vary. ".

Almost every Facebook girl I've been with has been fine with BBBJ. I never ask for CIM.

If you have a long list of requirements, you should clear everything up before. You should also expect the price to go up. If she's going to do more than usual, she will want to be paid more than usual.

Interesting. I am one who tries to get my requirements specified before time. However I get many chicas answering "no. " For example, in the last week I have had only one acceptance out of five on Facebook. Perhaps I put my list together wrong. However, I have thinking it is the BBBJ issue. From my experience, Colombian chicas in other countries such as Argentina and Panama almost always (80%) insist on a CBJ.

The other thing is I created a secondary Facebook profile. One chica that I friended posted a blurb saying that men with short-term Facebook histories are very dangerous. So this could be a reason that chicas are refusing citas. There was another post last week where a chica (an obvious prepago) was robbed of 3 m COP in Bello. I had one ISG friend write me privately saying he thinks the Medellin Facebook scene may be played out or at least nearing its end. I personally had better luck on Tinder but then again I got banned for being too explicit.

Big Boss Man
08-15-19, 18:07
YFor those of you that think more $ gets you finer pussy or performance, I wish you well. My experience is that the correlation is not clear. Since I am one who seems to be offering 50 k more than the going rate, I agree with you that probably I am not getting a better performance paying extra. The only thing I am ensuring is that I am meeting my expectations for a cita. Since I am getting plenty of rejections, I don't think I am grossly overpaying.

The majority of my friends are "go with the flow" guys. Recently my friend was almost surprised that I was laying out what I wanted before I left the bar.

It is also a fact especially in Medellin that some guys provide aphrodisiacs such as 420 during a session. This is something I don't do. Although I do not do 420, I am a Deadhead so I have been there and know about the benefits. I suspect this might be helping the "go with the flow" guys.

One reason I grown to like the motels is the availablility of a variety of alcoholic drinks. I found last August many chicas like Smirnoff Ice which is something I would never buy for myself.

Orgasmico
08-15-19, 18:47
If you ever have a couple of weeks in Medellin you could fly Copa or Avianca overnight and spend a few days in Rio. I've seen first-class tickets for something like $650 MDE GIG. Their Summer months are late November through April so that's when you want to be there.I live in Medellin so I'm always thinking about heading to Rio for a change of scenery. I've seen tickets as low as $450 on Avianca to Rio from Medellin.

Beobeo
08-15-19, 19:25
What if the girl doesn't mention any specific amount of money, even though you give her many hints. Is that a good sign or bad sign?

Golfinho
08-15-19, 19:25
I live in Medellin so I'm always thinking about heading to Rio for a change of scenery. I've seen tickets as low as $450 on Avianca to Rio from Medellin."always thinking" and you still haven't done it? If the price is your excuse, try flying to Leticia, taxi over the border to Tabatinga airport and take a domestic flight to Rio.

Surfer500
08-15-19, 19:35
Perhaps I'm seeing Venezuelans and don't recognize them as such. However, I session the hottest ones I see and am yet to session a Venezuelan streetwalker.The Venezuelans are pretty easy to identify, they typically hang together in groups of two or more girls and unfortunately a lot of them are fat and ugly, the "fuglies" are what I call them. However, there are some nice ones in the mix. The Venezuelans have invaded the area, taken away a lot of clients for the Colombians, hence they hang separately as the Colombians do not want them there as I have mentioned in my previous posts. It's a goldmine right now for those into SW's, and there is more than enough of them to go around. I am sure you are aware that you can't just show up in El Centro and spend like five minutes like you would at a Casa and have a line-up of beauties presented to you ready to hit the room. Lots of patience, time in the area, and Spanish speaking skills are required to be successful with the SW's in El Centro. I think the issue your going to have if you decide to spend some time looking for a SW in El Centro is finding a "hottie" to go with. There are not a lot of them down there, so the Casa's will probably be much better for you. And as I said before, everybody rolls different and it's all good.

Fun Luvr
08-15-19, 19:48
(Your email) Control's your WhatsApp account, not the sim card. If you arrive in a new country and log in with your old email, all of your old contacts and everything will load to the new phone, it's not that complicated. Pollo Negro is out!Wow, not even close to correct. Your email is only used for backup. That is the reason your contacts and other information will be restored, but only if they were previously backed up. A new phone must be registered with Whatsapp before Whatsapp will work. Whatsapp identifies a user by a username created from a phone number and stored in the Whatsapp application. That is the reason you do not need a sim card after the app is registered. Even if you change your sim card, it will not affect your Whatsapp account until you reload Whatsapp.

Surfer500
08-15-19, 20:06
The fact is that the Venezuelans are in every nook and cranny in Medellin, I mean everywhere and yes I have never seen so many chicas in Botero and the Vera as there are now. This last Sunday I sat in the museum cafe patio, which adjacent to the Botero plaza, and sipping my coffee for almost 2 hours and watched and observed the people and was in awe how many workers were out in the afternoon.
The Tall Man.It's mind blowing how many Chicas are out there.

When I am down there and I see the English guided tour groups being escorted thru the area, I wonder if any of the people on the tour ever ask, why are there so many women standing around all over the place. Perhaps the tour guide tells them what's up?

Another thing I can't fathom is how many clients some of these Chicas actually get given that there are so many of them. I see some of the prettier Venezuelans going arriba. But some of them I bet are lucky to snag a customer at all.

I also notice a lot of guys similar in age (Venezuelans) sometimes talking with the girls. I have to assume these are their boyfriends or husbands who they are supporting.

El Centro by day is so different than a few years ago, and if the Venezuelan Chicas continue to invade the area, something is bound to change and not for the good. The City might step in and clean up the area if tourism is affected perhaps.

Regardless, it's a buyers market for pussy down there for sure, so might as well enjoy it while it lasts.

PolloNegro
08-15-19, 20:17
Wow, not even close to correct. Your email is only used for backup. That is the reason your contacts and other information will be restored, but only if they were previously backed up. A new phone must be registered with Whatsapp before Whatsapp will work. Whatsapp identifies a user by a username created from a phone number and stored in the Whatsapp application. That is the reason you do not need a sim card after the app is registered. Even if you change your sim card, it will not affect your Whatsapp account until you reload Whatsapp.I currently have 2 phones, different numbers, same email, they both recieve the same messages if I whatsapp either number from a 3rd phone but I cannot whatsapp the same phones registered under the same email? And I do not have them registered as the same name under whatsapp. I wonder why? Pollo negro is out!

PolloNegro
08-15-19, 20:30
Wow, not even close to correct. Your email is only used for backup. That is the reason your contacts and other information will be restored, but only if they were previously backed up. A new phone must be registered with Whatsapp before Whatsapp will work. Whatsapp identifies a user by a username created from a phone number and stored in the Whatsapp application. That is the reason you do not need a sim card after the app is registered. Even if you change your sim card, it will not affect your Whatsapp account until you reload Whatsapp.As Fun Luvr has stated, make sure you register an email with your WhatsApp account as it provides you with the ability to back up your account? Who wouldn't want to back up their account to retrieve any missed messages? Which can only be done through a registered email address, as I was saying before, the answer was provided, even in denial. (your email) control's your WhatsApp account, otherwise every phone you buy or activate will cause you to create a brand new account, even if you are using the same old name with each account? Imagine how many "Juan Rodriguez's" it is in this world. Everyone would get the same message. Trust me, your email account controls your WhatsApp account. Pollo negro is out!

Mojo Bandit
08-15-19, 21:41
I have Verizon with International service and my phone works here just like in the USA. If your carrier is Verizon all you need to do is add an International Plan of which they have an option that costs $ 10 a day. With the plan I have I can receive and make calls from anywhere in Colombia as though as I was at home. As an example, if I want to call someone in the USA I just go to contacts and the number is dialed. As far as Whatsapp, Tinder, or anything else it works in Colombia just like at home with the Verizon service I have which is expensive, but very reliable. I have used my phone all over the world, IE; for UBER etc. And it's been like I never left the USA. So if you have Verizon service your best option might just be adding International service versus having to change SIM cards.Verizon must have added more bands to their phones since I looked into it. But it's still cheaper for me to go with Google Fi, It's cost is $20 a month unlimited texting, plus $10 GB data, on average I use 1 GB a week if I don't have consistent wifi, half that if I do. For 2 weeks that's $40 which would only be 4 days on Verizon international plan. I used it on a two week trip to Europe two years ago and only spent $30 because I had WiFi most of the time.

Mojo Bandit
08-15-19, 21:49
Anyone fly back and forth between Medellin and Cartagena much? I see flights in a basic Google search round trips nonstops ranging from $60 on Viva Air to $100 Avianca. I'm wondering if these are prices only gotten when you book in advance or do the budget airlines like Viva Air run these all the time?

Mr Enternational
08-15-19, 21:57
Anyone fly back and forth between Medellin and Cartagena much? I see flights in a basic Google search round trips nonstops ranging from $60 on Viva Air to $100 Avianca. I'm wondering if these are prices only gotten when you book in advance or do the budget airlines like Viva Air run these all the time?Those are normal prices for flights within Colombia. One of my Venezuelan chicks moved from Bogota to Medellin a couple of weeks ago because of a job transfer. She took the bus for $30. I asked her why she didn't just take a flight for that price. She said because she had 3 big bags and she didn't want to pay extra to take them on the plane.

Jbj64
08-15-19, 23:22
Also be careful of the low fares that are for Colobians or people with a Colombian Cedula. I found cheap flights but you had to have a Cedula or Colobian ID card to get the fare.

Also the cheapest fares do not allow much luggage so check that out.


Those are normal prices for flights within Colombia. One of my Venezuelan chicks moved from Bogota to Medellin a couple of weeks ago because of a job transfer. She took the bus for $30. I asked her why she didn't just take a flight for that price. She said because she had 3 big bags and she didn't want to pay extra to take them on the plane.

John Clayton
08-15-19, 23:34
...or people with a Colombian Cedula. I found cheap flights but you had to have a Cedula or Colobian ID card to get the fare...I so hate that bullshit.

GeneHickman
08-16-19, 00:23
Since I am one who seems to be offering 50 k more than the going rate, I agree with you that probably I am not getting a better performance paying extra. The only thing I am ensuring is that I am meeting my expectations for a cita. Since I am getting plenty of rejections, I don't think I am grossly overpaying.

The majority of my friends are "go with the flow" guys. Recently my friend was almost surprised that I was laying out what I wanted before I left the bar.

It is also a fact especially in Medellin that some guys provide aphrodisiacs such as 420 during a session. This is something I don't do. Although I do not do 420, I am a Deadhead so I have been there and know about the benefits. I suspect this might be helping the "go with the flow" guys.

One reason I grown to like the motels is the availablility of a variety of alcoholic drinks. I found last August many chicas like Smirnoff Ice which is something I would never buy for myself.There are many reasons a chica may reject you besides price. Maybe your looks, maybe she has other priorities that night, maybe her bank balance is decent for now, maybe there are no immediate needs etc. Now of course she is a working girl and has a price even under those circumstances at which she will go along, but My Q to you is what sort of mood will that mean she is in at tha time?

That is why I say amount beyond a certain price is no guarantee of a good service. The price paid is a function of the circumstances at that moment.

Finally one last thing, regulars tend to settle on price. If she knows you are decent, fun and she has been with you a couple of times, it takes a few things off the plate for her. Risk is less, known entity, predictability of what to expect, and reliability of payment etc.

DreamCarnarvon
08-16-19, 00:32
You have the location correct, to better orientate yourself, go to the main entrance of the Museum, stand in front of the Museum and look towards the Metro line. There will be lots of statues there and a park. There are girls scattered around sitting in the park, on the benches, etc. The highest concentration of girls will be standing at the intersection of Carrera 52 and Calle 52 to the north side of the Museum, also there are lots of girls hanging close by to the ice cream / yogurt stand on the corner at that intersection. There are girls out early in the morning in the park directly in front of the Museum but the best times are late afternoon. And besides this area, you can go down a block to Carrea 51 which has a string of bars with lots of girls hanging out in front. I don't usually pull girls from this area. There are Vennies there, however the greatest concentration is in the area I mentioned as a lot of the Vennies stay apart from the Colombians as they have invaded their turf. If your looking for beauty queens and / or have no Spanish speaking skills, I suggest you go to New Life, as that suits others better than the SW scene. There are lots of fuglies out there, but some gems can be found with patience. Please post your observations after trolling the area.Thank you and Jjbee62 for providing the detailed descriptions. Definitely not looking for stunner with these SWs. If I want hotties, I know I can find them at the casas. I'll be getting more than enough casa girls when I'm in Brasil. So these bargain venez / col SWs would be a refreshing break. Whats not to love about keeping a pussy all night for the price of an hour with a casa girl.

Do you know if these SWs are controlled by pimps?

DreamCarnarvon
08-16-19, 00:37
From few weeks back. Sorry amount of Plastic girls in Colombia made my rating system go haywire LOL.Can you PM me her contact info? How much did she charge you?

Combo
08-16-19, 01:31
There are many reasons a chica may reject you besides price. Maybe your looks, maybe she has other priorities that night, maybe her bank balance is decent for now, maybe there are no immediate needs etc. Now of course she is a working girl and has a price even under those circumstances at which she will go along, but My Q to you is what sort of mood will that mean she is in at tha time?

That is why I say amount beyond a certain price is no guarantee of a good service. The price paid is a function of the circumstances at that moment.

Finally one last thing, regulars tend to settle on price. If she knows you are decent, fun and she has been with you a couple of times, it takes a few things off the plate for her. Risk is less, known entity, predictability of what to expect, and reliability of payment etc.There are an infinity of reasons why a chica might reject you. One is that she just might be tired and not feel like it. She might not even feel like reading a message or responding to another anonymous gringo.

I understand the convenience of Facebook and it should be in you tool set, but IMO it's always better to meet them face to face if you can.

Talon
08-16-19, 01:34
Interesting. I am one who tries to get my requirements specified before time. However I get many chicas answering "no. " For example, in the last week I have had only one acceptance out of five on Facebook. Perhaps I put my list together wrong. However, I have thinking it is the BBBJ issue. From my experience, Colombian chicas in other countries such as Argentina and Panama almost always (80%) insist on a CBJ.

The other thing is I created a secondary Facebook profile. One chica that I friended posted a blurb saying that men with short-term Facebook histories are very dangerous. So this could be a reason that chicas are refusing citas. There was another post last week where a chica (an obvious prepago) was robbed of 3 m COP in Bello. I had one ISG friend write me privately saying he thinks the Medellin Facebook scene may be played out or at least nearing its end. I personally had better luck on Tinder but then again I got banned for being too explicit.Out of hundreds of friend requests I sent out since late 2017 around 1 in 3 have accepted. I use a fake name but my profile is a clear shot of my face and I have a half dozen selfies of me in front of famous landmarks. I got a backlog of dozens of girls I've promised to meet but haven't yet because I can't possible fuck them all and I already got a huge stable of regulars that I can call upon who I know will perform well for a decent price.

Tinder is more of a crapshoot. So many girls just use it to advertise their Instagram pages (at least you can message them like you would with facebook). I've had more success getting matches when I play up being a sugar daddy--talking about how generous I am, how I like to spoil a girl "who can show me a good time", etc. Once I get a match I move the conversation over to Whatsapp as quickly as I can to evade their censors.

CBJ is a mood killer for me so I always include BBJ in my opening offer, like "150 mil. Chupas sin condon". About half agree immediately. The rest demand more money. I've honestly only had a handful outright refuse to budge and insist condom for everything. And some of them eventually caved and agreed after it was clear I had lost interest in them.

Easy way to mitigate being robbed: limit the amount of cash you have on hand and make them come to you!

JjBee62
08-16-19, 02:11
I am glad to know this, I use Verizon and they use CDMA technology which does not have carriers in every country. I used to use a "travel phone' that was a multiband and would work anywhere once a bought a SIM card in a given country. Now I have a Google Pixel phone and whenever I get ready to go out of the country I buy a SIM card from Google on their Google Fi program. Google Fi gets service in 200 hundred countries Texting is free anywhere in the world but they charge 20 cents a minute for calls (how many actual calls does anyone make) . Plus I have a phone in my hand as soon as I hit the ground. I have had banking problems and apartment problems in the past when I needed my phone as soon as I arrived. My phone can also use wifi for calls, as I think most later model phones can, and then its free. Last time I checked the Google fi SIM cards only work on Google phones though. Damn that sounded like I was schilling for google, I'm not, but it is a very handy thing when traveling) But I do have to change my phone number to a phone number I have registered with Google. But even though my number changes, everything else in my phone stays the same, I. E. My contacts will still be there, The only hassle is to let anyone that I will be contacting know what my travel number is before I leave so they know who is calling or texting. I was worried that I would have to reload all those contacts from Whatsapp, but from what you say I just have to let the people not in whatsapp no what my number will be when I am traveling.If you have one of the Verizon Unlimited plans, you get 5 days free of international data, talk and text. After that it's $10 per day. I had no issues with my Google Pixel 2 XL and Verizon while I was there last month.

You also don't have to change your WhatsApp number when you change your SIM. I've kept the same WhatsApp across 3 different phones, 3 different SIMs and 3 different carriers.

JjBee62
08-16-19, 02:32
Wow, not even close to correct. Your email is only used for backup. That is the reason your contacts and other information will be restored, but only if they were previously backed up. A new phone must be registered with Whatsapp before Whatsapp will work. Whatsapp identifies a user by a username created from a phone number and stored in the Whatsapp application. That is the reason you do not need a sim card after the app is registered. Even if you change your sim card, it will not affect your Whatsapp account until you reload Whatsapp.When I switched phones and carriers I installed WhatsApp on my new phone. Thanks to my old carrier failing to release my phone number, I ended up with a new number.

When I signed in to WhatsApp the first time I selected that I already had an account. After verifying I ended up with my old WhatsApp number on my new phone with a new number. Any time I turned on my old phone it would ask if I wanted to switch my WhatsApp back.

Now, for 14 months I've got my original WhatsApp number on a phone with a different number.

Balboa
08-16-19, 02:51
Verizon and Sprint phones will only work in Colombia with google-Fi because they use CDMA, those particular bands are not available in Colombia, unless you're using Google-Fi. AT&T, T-Mobile, and Metro PCS phones work in Colombia with simply changing the SIM Card. If the phone is unlocked, but it is a Verizon, Boost, or Sprint phones, they will not work, I have tried, trust me on this. The easiest way is to have a travel phone, but to each his own. Right now I own a Samsung A50 with a dual SIM card, I use it in the US under metro PCS and in Colombia under Claro. I have a friend who buys my a monthly plan for 40,000 cop the day before I arrive and as soon as I land, I turn on the claro sim card and boom, I'm up and running. The funny thing is this, I paid about $225 usd for this Samsung A50 and it has a really good camera on the phone while in Colombia earlier this year. The same phone is nearly $425 usd in the united states. If you want to minimize the amount of a travel phone, go into any pawn shop and look for a metro or unlocked Samsung J3 prime phone, they are going for about $50-$75 usd and they will do everything you need while in Medellin, a SIM card is $5,000 cop, and a monthly plan is $40,000 cop for a total of about $17 usd. So once again, the easiest way to handle the phone situation in Colombia, come to Colombia with Google Fi or have a cheap unlocked phone to insert a Colombian sim and then by a cheap monthly plan. Pollo Negro is out!Hmmm, I use my Sprint cell in Colombia and Brazil no problem.

When I arrive, I simply turn it on, it automatically connects to a local carrier I imagine in contract with Sorint and it works like a champ.

Balboa out.

Big Boss Man
08-16-19, 03:01
There are many reasons a chica may reject you besides price. Maybe your looks, maybe she has other priorities that night, maybe her bank balance is decent for now, maybe there are no immediate needs etc. Now of course she is a working girl and has a price even under those circumstances at which she will go along, but My Q to you is what sort of mood will that mean she is in at tha time?

All I can say is based on last year in August in Medellin all but one of the Facebook and Tinder chicas provided extras beyond my script. I ended up having three citas with the most liberal of the chicas.

The apartments and the massage rooms tended to be more restrictive on services. I think in Energy I have always had to tip for BBBJ so figure 180 k to 200 k per hour. For one hour outcall from Energy they charge 180 k plus taxi. If you read back through the forum in 2011 Energy was the recommended spot by one of the most influential Medeliin guys on ISG. In his view, Energy had good-looking chicas who for the most part were childless. So things change over time.

Another massage room told me 250 k for outcall last August but they only have 5 chicas working there.

Nounce
08-16-19, 03:09
When I arrive, I simply turn it on, it automatically connects to a local carrier I imagine in contract with Sorint and it works like a champ.Do you put in a new SIM card? That is what he is talking about.


Verizon and Sprint phones will only work in Colombia with google-Fi. He also mentioned roaming worked. There are very few phones support multi-band will work but these phones probably are not common.

Big Boss Man
08-16-19, 03:19
Out of hundreds of friend requests I sent out since late 2017 around 1 in 3 have accepted. I use a fake name but my profile is a clear shot of my face and I have a half dozen selfies of me in front of famous landmarks. I got a backlog of dozens of girls I've promised to meet but haven't yet because I can't possible fuck them all and I already got a huge stable of regulars that I can call upon who I know will perform well for a decent price.

Tinder is more of a crapshoot. So many girls just use it to advertise their Instagram pages (at least you can message them like you would with facebook). I've had more success getting matches when I play up being a sugar daddy--talking about how generous I am, how I like to spoil a girl "who can show me a good time", etc. Once I get a match I move the conversation over to Whatsapp as quickly as I can to evade their censors.

CBJ is a mood killer for me so I always include BBJ in my opening offer, like "150 mil. Chupas sin condon". About half agree immediately. The rest demand more money. I've honestly only had a handful outright refuse to budge and insist condom for everything. And some of them eventually caved and agreed after it was clear I had lost interest in them.
Man you are good. Is it easy for you to communicate in Spanish? I have to use a translator.

I have more than enough right now to keep me occupied for 2 weeks. Hopefully one or two will be a keeper. Plus I have massage rooms within 5 minutes walk of my 2 different BnBs. Add in Energy, Tantra and another unreviewed one I want to try, I will be plenty busy. I will do no harm to the Facebook, streetwalker or Downtown casa scenes.

SethMacfarlane
08-16-19, 03:41
Anyone fly back and forth between Medellin and Cartagena much? I see flights in a basic Google search round trips nonstops ranging from $60 on Viva Air to $100 Avianca. I'm wondering if these are prices only gotten when you book in advance or do the budget airlines like Viva Air run these all the time?The prices are almost always that cheap. It's like an hour flight at most. I like to book in advance with avianca. Always smooth flying and luggage is included. Keep In mind the fares google flights is pulling are most likely from the Spanish website, so it can be a a little confusing if you don't understand Spanish but you should be able to figure it out.

ColombiaLover
08-16-19, 05:05
If you are staying in or near Laureles, there is a Scotiabank ATM outside of Jumbo 65.


There is a Scotiabank ATM in Poblado in the vicinity of opposite the Holiday Inn Express so you should have no problem with ATM. Call your local bank before leaving. Nevertheless I would advise on bringing requisite amount of cash depending on your length of stay. Colombia is great any time of year.

GeneHickman
08-16-19, 05:35
All I can say is based on last year in August in Medellin all but one of the Facebook and Tinder chicas provided extras beyond my script. I ended up having three citas with the most liberal of the chicas.

The apartments and the massage rooms tended to be more restrictive on services. I think in Energy I have always had to tip for BBBJ so figure 180 k to 200 k per hour. For one hour outcall from Energy they charge 180 k plus taxi. If you read back through the forum in 2011 Energy was the recommended spot by one of the most influential Medeliin guys on ISG. In his view, Energy had good-looking chicas who for the most part were childless. So things change over time.

Another massage room told me 250 k for outcall last August but they only have 5 chicas working there.Massage rooms always take their cut, remember that. FB is a direct arrangement with the Chica. There is a difference.

Surfer500
08-16-19, 14:14
Thank you and Jjbee62 for providing the detailed descriptions. Definitely not looking for stunner with these SWs. If I want hotties, I know I can find them at the casas. I'll be getting more than enough casa girls when I'm in Brasil. So these bargain venez / col SWs would be a refreshing break. Whats not to love about keeping a pussy all night for the price of an hour with a casa girl.

Do you know if these SWs are controlled by pimps?That's an interesting question and I believe the answer to your question is no, however with the Vennies, I see lots of guys the same ages of them hanging around. So the boyfriends and / or husbands are being supported by them, and they are working to survive I guess. But who knows, maybe some of them have been forced to work against their will. But I doubt this is the case. I think it's just to survive and support their families.

Surfer500
08-16-19, 14:20
If you have one of the Verizon Unlimited plans, you get 5 days free of international data, talk and text. After that it's $10 per day. I had no issues with my Google Pixel 2 XL and Verizon while I was there last month.

You also don't have to change your WhatsApp number when you change your SIM. I've kept the same WhatsApp across 3 different phones, 3 different SIMs and 3 different carriers.With the Verizon International Plan I have, it's though I have never left the USA, the phone works just like at home and in the last three months I have used it in Turkey, Iceland, Germany, and in Colombia. May cost more than multiple phones and SIM cards, but no hassle whatsoever.

Surfer500
08-16-19, 14:22
If you are staying in or near Laureles, there is a Scotiabank ATM outside of Jumbo 65.Scotiabank ATM upstairs inside the EXITO on Calle 10 in Poblado about five minutes from the Metro station.

Big Boss Man
08-16-19, 16:45
Massage rooms always take their cut, remember that. FB is a direct arrangement with the Chica. There is a difference.Thanks for the clarification.

Most guys on ISG do not use agencies in Colombia. In fact, when you read Agency websites it seems as if they have a real problem with the guys and chicas cutting their own deals after the first meeting. I guess in that respect it is similar to Fase Dos and La Isla. But agencies do serve a useful purpose by saving time. It takes time to build a quality Facebook list. One guy reports that it takes time to find quality among the Centro streetwalkers. Some guys report that they visit several casas to find a chica. I called an agency once on a rainy afternoon in Medellin when I did not want to go out. Here is a list that I gathered of agencies.

https://scort-masajes-y-erotismo-en-medellin-24-horas.negocio.site/?utm_source=gmb&utm_medium=referral

https://lacelestina.co/

https://www.elbookrosa.com/medellin

http://www.escortsfantasia.com/escorts/categoria/medellin/

https://www.prepagos1000.co/prepagos-medellin-jovenes

https://www.erospremium.co/

https://geisha.academy /en/

Vany's Chicas.

Geisha is the only one I recall that has been reported on recently.

Big Boss Man
08-16-19, 16:50
I like leggier women so this agency might be good for me as they require their chicas to be 165 cm tall. The bad is they have probably the highest prices.

https://www.prepagos1000.co/requisitos-para-trabajar-con-nosotros

PolloNegro
08-16-19, 18:46
Do you put in a new SIM card? That is what he is talking about.

He also mentioned roaming worked. There are very few phones support multi-band will work but these phones probably are not common.Than this please let me know. Simple $225 phone, Samsung A50 with dual sim cards, once I land in Colombia I activate my claro sim card & my phone works immediately, for $13/ month with 2 g of data. Pollo negro is out!

RudeBwoy100
08-16-19, 20:25
If you are staying in or near Laureles, there is a Scotiabank ATM outside of Jumbo 65.Awesome, it seems that there are a few of them in Laureles and Poblado. Does it matter if my bank currency is in Jamaican instead of Canadian or USA the when trying to use the ATM to get Colombian pesos?

Knowledge
08-16-19, 23:40
That would be up to your bank. The same is true of the transaction fees. Ask about it at your bank. Unlike us, they actually have to respond to you with verifiable facts.


Awesome, it seems that there are a few of them in Laureles and Poblado. Does it matter if my bank currency is in Jamaican instead of Canadian or USA the when trying to use the ATM to get Colombian pesos?

Knowledge
08-16-19, 23:58
I go with a dual SIM phone for the past 10 years or so. I find it the most convenient for travel and home use. I keep a spare phone with as a backup only. I use a local SIM for data service when I'm out of my home coverage area. Every so often a local phone number comes in handy but it's less and less often.


With the Verizon International Plan I have, it's though I have never left the USA, the phone works just like at home and in the last three months I have used it in Turkey, Iceland, Germany, and in Colombia. May cost more than multiple phones and SIM cards, but no hassle whatsoever.

Nounce
08-17-19, 05:52
Than this please let me know. Simple $225 phone, Samsung A50 with dual sim cards, once I land in Colombia I activate my claro sim card & my phone works immediately, for $13/ month with 2 g of data. Pollo negro is out!My post is in agreement with you, that is why I try to explain to him.

Multi-band is not multi-sim. There are a few phones that work on both AT&T and Sprint. These are multi-band phones.

Franko11
08-17-19, 11:01
Hi,

I generally prefer hotels, but if they won't let the chica in, I will go to an apartment.

Are chicas banned from hotels in Medellin?

What if they arrive separately and to your room alone?

Thanks in advance.

JjBee62
08-17-19, 12:34
Than this please let me know. Simple $225 phone, Samsung A50 with dual sim cards, once I land in Colombia I activate my claro sim card & my phone works immediately, for $13/ month with 2 g of data. Pollo negro is out!Okay. Letting you know. This is easier, but not much.

As soon as I land, I turn on my Google Pixel 2 XL with my Verizon Unlimited plan. My phone works immediately. I get 0.5 GB daily of high speed data. Drops to 2 G speed after that. Once per day Verizon texts me to let me know how many free days I have left, or to tell me I'm being charged $10 for the day. No need to switch SIMs, no need to activate a SIM, no need to pay 2 different companies.

It's not cheaper. My Verizon plan is $55/ month. I have an $850 phone and after 5 days in Colombia my International plan costs $10/ day.

However, I get unlimited 4 G data, 75 GB per month of 5 G data and 30 GB of mobile hotspot data in the US. Most importantly I get the Verizon network. The T-Mobile / Metro PCS network is fine, as long as you never leave the city. There are too many gaping holes in the network for me.

Your way is a better way, for someone who frequently travels to only 1 country. If your phone gets broken or stolen, you're only out a cheap phone. You have a local number for use in Colombia, while still having your US number available.

For someone who travels often to several countries, especially if they are spending 5 days or less per month outside the US, Verizon Unlimited plans (or Google FI) are the way to go. It's also easier for someone who rarely travels. Sucks to spend $200-$300 on a cheap phone, go to the trouble of buying a local SIM, paying to load some data and then only use it once, because you decide to go somewhere else the next year.

For the record, I also have a dual SIM Huawei Mate 9. Paid about $300 for it in Medellin after my Samsung S7 Edge got broken. It has my old T-Mobile SIM and a Claro SIM. I keep it as an emergency backup phone. If I was spending 30-180 days a year in Colombia, I'd be using the Claro SIM.

There are lots of options. Pick the one that best fits your travel style.

Surfer500
08-17-19, 14:31
I go with a dual SIM phone for the past 10 years or so. I find it the most convenient for travel and home use. I keep a spare phone with as a backup only. I use a local SIM for data service when I'm out of my home coverage area. Every so often a local phone number comes in handy but it's less and less often.It's interesting how everybody has a different way they handle their cell phone communication overseas.

In Colombia I rarely take my " I " phone out of my apartment out of fear of it being stolen. Because if it is, there is no way to get my Verizion telephone number back and working until I get back to the USA. At least that is what Verizion has told me, maybe that has changed recently. I handle all of my business dealings, Whatsapp messaging etc. While in my apartment. But also have a local Colombian cell ($30 USD Nokia) I use in Colombia. As I am on the METRO daily and walking all over El Centro most days I cannot afford to lose my I phone. I basically treat it security wise like my Passport. I also think everyone has become to dependent on smart phones, with boarding passes, etc. And almost everything else on them, what a nightmare if you lose one.

If you decide to buy a "burner phone"' or inexpensive smart phone with a Colombian SIM card for use in Colombia, it will only be valid for I believe thirty days unless registered with a carrier like CLARO. I recommend CLARO as a carrier here only because they have so many offices everywhere versus TIGO or others.

A few months ago on a flight from Medellin to Santa Marta, my local Colombian cell phone fell out of my pocket on the flight and I lost it. Not a problem, when I landed in Santa Marta I went to the Claro office and paid like $ 2 USD and was issued a new SIM card with the same number. If I had lost my USA cell I would of been hosed.

Everybody's situation is different, so there's no right way or wrong way to handle communication Overseas. I employ the same above-mentioned strategy when I go to the Dominican Republic, the Philippines, and Thailand because I am out on the streets walking around a lot. When I land at the airport, I purchase a SIM card and put in my burner phone and am ready to go!

Balboa
08-17-19, 16:32
Do you put in a new SIM card? That is what he is talking about.

He also mentioned roaming worked. There are very few phones support multi-band will work but these phones probably are not common.No, I just use the Sprint international service.

No SIM card needed.

Balboa is out!

Chicafan
08-17-19, 16:58
No, I just use the Sprint international service.

No SIM card needed.

Balboa is out!Here in the US Sprint's network might not be as ubiquitous as Verizon and AT&T but their international roaming is excellent. Two years ago Verizon's international plan was so expensive that I had to get a SIM card every time I traveled and it was not transparent- people could tell I was traveling if I called back to US. It was basically $40 for 100 mb data (which is nothing) and perhaps 100 minute talk time and the price of exceeding that was punitive. Sprint's international data roaming is free, although slower than 3G, but the option of buying some megabytes of 4G are available and a hell of a lot cheaper than Verizon's $40 for 100 mb. I just don't need it for wpp and FB in the streets of MDE or where wifi is available. Calls within Colombia or to US are 20 cents a minute.

CF is out!

Jbj64
08-17-19, 18:49
I first stayed in Hotels, Suite comfort and TRYP both in Laurles near the stadium, I booked for 2 people and the girl had to show her ID at the desk then she came on up or I went down and got her. Now I stay at Airbnb much cheaper ($25-65 nt) and more privacy (sometimes). I am trying a new Airbnb this trip so we will see.

Motels are different in Colombia, they are short time places used for sex.


Hi,

I generally prefer hotels, but if they won't let the chica in, I will go to an apartment.

Are chicas banned from hotels in Medellin?

What if they arrive separately and to your room alone?

Thanks in advance.

Fun Luvr
08-17-19, 18:54
Hi,

I generally prefer hotels, but if they won't let the chica in, I will go to an apartment.

Are chicas banned from hotels in Medellin?

What if they arrive separately and to your room alone?

Thanks in advance.As a rule, chicas are not banned from hotels. Some hotels will not allow local females to enter the rooms unless they are registered. Some will charge a fee for them to enter. Some will allow them to enter if they have an ID showing that they are 18 or older. You need to ask the hotel if they allow local guests to visit you in your room. The hotels that don't allow local visitors will not allow them in, whether they arrive alone or with a hundred people.

Orgasmico
08-18-19, 03:37
Just sharing this very recent information because some of you guys say that you use this app. Stay safe!

VsebudetNY
08-18-19, 04:00
Hi,

I'm going to visit Colombia in 2 weeks. Aug 31-Sep 4 Cartagena, Sep 4 - Sep 8 Medellin.

New to the forum and the country, but not to the game - 20+ years mongering in US, DR, Mexico, Jamaica, Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Greece, Netherlands.

Have been reading the forum for couple weeks. Thanks a lot to veterans for time and efforts spent to help newbies to understand Medellin!

Booked already Ayenda 1235 Botero hotel (I read all cons and pros and despite my Spanish limited to 20 words -for many years just plan to start learning. I've been in rough places and hopefully will survive).

I have free cancellation with Expedia, so if veterans convince me that I should stay somewhere else. I'll think about it.

The only question that bothers me for now. I've read that there is NO in-room safe in Botero hotel. Where do you guys keep your passports, cards, money?

If anybody is going to be in Medellin Sep 4 - Sep 8 - will gladly meet and share beer and stories.

Thanks in advance!

JayToStore
08-18-19, 07:44
Just sharing this very recent information because some of you guys say that you use this app. Stay safe!Can you share the FB link. I think I saw them both during my visit.

Septimius
08-18-19, 09:19
Hi,

I generally prefer hotels, but if they won't let the chica in, I will go to an apartment.

Are chicas banned from hotels in Medellin?

What if they arrive separately and to your room alone?

Thanks in advance.The best thing to do is contact the hotel that you're staying in and they will let you know what the policy is. Most of the hotels I looked at charge extra for you to bring the girls up as long as they have proper ID. But quite honestly I'd rather just hit them at the houses or strip clubs and go back to my room. If you're not on a budget and insist on a hotel then treat yourself and pay the extra cash to bring them up. I know I would.

Orgasmico
08-18-19, 14:03
This is finally hitting Medellin as there seems to be some sentiment to keep those traveling here for vices away along with pushback on gentrification.

JerkMcGerk
08-18-19, 14:44
Just sharing this very recent information because some of you guys say that you use this app. Stay safe!I can't click on the two pictures you just posted. What is the context?

Cbmcpa
08-18-19, 15:33
Searching for an A50 now. Great info. This is VERY IMPORTANT.


Than this please let me know. Simple $225 phone, Samsung A50 with dual sim cards, once I land in Colombia I activate my claro sim card & my phone works immediately, for $13/ month with 2 g of data. Pollo negro is out!

TriFreak
08-18-19, 15:36
Any board members who are in town next week and want to link up for a beer hmu (Pollo Negro you already know Drinks on me, dam those vids! I want to do the touristy stuff during some of the days, can anyone recommend a tour guide preferably company that's not gringo pricing?

Golfinho
08-18-19, 15:44
This is finally hitting Medellin as there seems to be some sentiment to keep those traveling here for vices away along with pushback on gentrification."Restaurants where the girls are almost naked"? They could have at least had the consideration to give the names and addresses of these establishments.

VsebudetNY
08-18-19, 16:05
Hi,

I'm going to visit Colombia in 2 weeks. Aug 31-Sep 4 Cartagena, Sep 4 - Sep 8 Medellin.

New to the forum and the country, but not to the game - 20+ years mongering in US, DR, Mexico, Jamaica, Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Greece, Netherlands.

Have been reading the forum for couple weeks. Thanks a lot to veterans for time and efforts spent to help newbies to understand Medellin!

Booked already Ayenda 1235 Botero hotel (I read all cons and pros and despite my Spanish limited to 20 words -for many years just plan to start learning-I've been in rough places and hopefully will survive).

I have free cancellation with Expedia, so if veterans convince me that I should stay somewhere else. I'll think about it.

The only question that bothers me for now -I've read that there is NO in-room safe in Botero hotel. Where do you guys keep your passports, cards, money?

If anybody is going to be in Medellin Sep 4 - Sep 8 - will gladly meet and share beer and stories.

Thanks in advance!

Talon
08-18-19, 16:13
This is finally hitting Medellin as there seems to be some sentiment to keep those traveling here for vices away along with pushback on gentrification.Funny that the writer is railing against sex tourists, who at least spend money and boost the local economy, when his country is currently flooded with impoverished Venezuelans who depress local wages, take jobs, and strain health and human services.

JayToStore
08-18-19, 16:14
Just sharing this very recent information because some of you guys say that you use this app. Stay safe!Can you share the FB link. I think I saw them both during my visit.

TheCarlAnthony
08-18-19, 17:03
Do you put in a new SIM card? That is what he is talking about.

He also mentioned roaming worked. There are very few phones support multi-band will work but these phones probably are not common.My experience with Sprint has been no issue. As soon as I land (without buying a sim) I restart my phone. While I e I'm in Customs line I usually get a text message from Sprint saying "Welcome To Sprint, you are in Colombia" then it tells me my rates. Free text 25 cent per min calls. Now here's the catch. The service sucks when using GPS oriented apps. Google Maps, Uber, etc. Sprint sends a message right after the welcome text saying for $10 they can upgrade you to the "high speed" roaming capabilities. It's worth every penny. But sprint works there. Maybe it's a phone issue for some.

JjBee62
08-18-19, 17:10
This is finally hitting Medellin as there seems to be some sentiment to keep those traveling here for vices away along with pushback on gentrification.This type of reaction is inevitable. It's not the guys who overpay the girls who are the biggest threat to a mongering destination. It's the guys who binge on Narcos, thinking it's a realistic representation of Medellin.

There's a regular stream of posts from them, and who knows how many get blocked by the admins, displaying the wrong attitude. They all plan on partying like rock stars, with no regard for the people who live there.

Add in the recent fool on YouTube who was teaching guys to harass and intimidate Colombian women. It's bound to create some anger towards the US tourists. There's other factors, but I don't want to get a political argument started.

Will it affect the typical visitor? Probably not. If you're using discretion, keeping a low profile and showing some respect most people will remain friendly. You might get a few more nasty looks than before, but no real issues.

JayToStore
08-18-19, 17:51
Hi,

I'm going to visit Colombia in 2 weeks. Aug 31-Sep 4 Cartagena, Sep 4 - Sep 8 Medellin.

New to the forum and the country, but not to the game - 20+ years mongering in US, DR, Mexico, Jamaica, Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Greece, Netherlands.

Have been reading the forum for couple weeks. Thanks a lot to veterans for time and efforts spent to help newbies to understand Medellin!Locker as usual. Don't believe in free cancellation from Expedia even with insurance after 24 HR booking, its only for emergency purpose. Not a 1 click cancel.

Talon
08-18-19, 19:52
Girls really have an inflated sense of what they're worth compared to FB. 300 k is a typical asking price.

YippieKayay
08-18-19, 19:58
Girls really have an inflated sense of what they're worth compared to FB. 300 k is a typical asking price.Your mistake is being so forward. Start with "mami como estas?" Then ask her if she would like to spend some time with you for a gift. 150 MIL CHUPA SIN CONDON is pretty irritating man.

EDIT: Also she's a dumb **** with that stupid message of her so maybe you should have offered 50k for her to crawl to your place suck your dick.

Charm City Dave
08-18-19, 20:11
I used to juggle sim cards when I traveled. I tried T-Mobile and Sprint internationally and hated the slow speeds and awful customer service.

If you spend any significant amount of time outside the US, and are from the US, I think Google Fi is a no-brainer for mobile phone service. It's cheap, reliable and has excellent customer service. It leverages both the Sprint and T-Mobile international networks seamlessly connecting to the strongest. When I was in Peru and T-Mobile's network was down it auto-connected to Sprint. When I was in New Zealand which had no Sprint partner it worked great with T-Mobile. I get LTE speed over 95% of the time. When connected to Wifi calls home are free. Otherwise 20 cents a minute. Free SMS worldwide. Pay for the mobile data you use. My monthly bills average less than $30 a month. Only downside is that it works best with the phones they sell, though it is now compatible with other phones (see their site). I'm a Pixel fan boy, think they are better than iPhones and now they have the mid-range priced 3 a series. I have used it in 14 countries (including Colombia).

If you are interested in learning more here is a like to the Google Fi site which has all the info. You also get $20 off if you sign up through this site.

https://g.co/fi/r/AV50AT


Here in the US Sprint's network might not be as ubiquitous as Verizon and AT&T but their international roaming is excellent. Two years ago Verizon's international plan was so expensive that I had to get a SIM card every time I traveled and it was not transparent- people could tell I was traveling if I called back to US. It was basically $40 for 100 mb data (which is nothing) and perhaps 100 minute talk time and the price of exceeding that was punitive. Sprint's international data roaming is free, although slower than 3G, but the option of buying some megabytes of 4G are available and a hell of a lot cheaper than Verizon's $40 for 100 mb. I just don't need it for wpp and FB in the streets of MDE or where wifi is available. Calls within Colombia or to US are 20 cents a minute.

CF is out!

VsebudetNY
08-18-19, 20:12
Locker as usual. Don't believe in free cancellation from Expedia even with insurance after 24 HR booking, its only for emergency purpose. Not a 1 click cancel.Thanks for the reply. Can you please provide more details about the lockers. Never used them in hotels.

Free cancellation for hotel reservations with Expedia works perfect. Did it many times. For flights yes -24 hours.

TheCarlAnthony
08-18-19, 20:21
For some of the newbies. I go to Medellin and Cartagena every few months. I have a set program that works "for me" I figured I would share. A lot of other seasoned mongers will hate my program. But to each their own. Maybe they're is someone similar to me personally wise that this will help. Because this is the Medellin board I will start there.

Pro tip: on the way to the air port stop at Walmart and get your own condoms that you are comfortable and used too. Don't "wing" this one IMO. Also a small speaker for music and fuenshi LOL.

Usually I fly from Cartagena on Friday or Saturday into Medellin. $60 flight. Flight gets me in around 1 pm. Perfect timing. If possible. Buy your bottles at the duty free. Don't bring them from home unless you don't mind weighing down your luggage LOL. As soon as I get my bags I walk right past the money exchange. All my money is on a debit card except a stashed emergency $300. This makes for easy withdrawals of Colombian Pesos at great rates from ATMs. I walk all the way to the back of the airport past the restrooms and next to the elevators (not the escalators) and withdraw about 600 to 1200 k pesos ($200 -$400). And the party begins. I'm a 36 year old, in shape, black guy that speaks English with minimal slang but know maybe 5 sentences in Spanish haha. I'm a laugh and party guy so I cater to that vibe of fun in Medellin. And I only travel alone. My rules my way.

Stay: I always book an Air BNB. Always. I don't deal with hotels or security guards if at all possible. Some see the huge security benefit in it. I personally like the privacy of the Air BNBs and prefer to have my own security measures and screenings. Again to each their own. I only book my Airbnb in Poblado within 10 streets of LLares. On the Air BNB App I type in Parque Llares. Then click the map and recenter my search right around llares. The lowest I go is Poblado Park up to up to Carrera 34. Maximum. The goal in this is so that I don't need taxis and Ubers much if at all save a few bucks and get the on ground experience. There are so many regular people walking this area, I feel safer on foot with all the street vendors and foreigners than in some random persons car. But to each their own. There is a group called Life Afar and they are luxury for cheap rentals. I only book through them recently. It seems they never have guest fees, always have your own key to your apartment and entrance, and best noone to judge you at the front door as you fulfill your crazy desires hahaha. I'm trying a big girl for once this trip! Never had it haha and running out of fetishes LOL.

Once there: the drive from the airport is about an hour. So if you can book an early flight, shoot for the noon or 1 pm arrival. Most check ins are at 3 or 4 pm any way so getting there around 2 with hour drive should get you there at a reasonable time. I like air BNB because you can usually get an early check in if you give them a heads up. Worst case get dropped off at your place then walk to one of the million surrounding restaurants to burn time or start messaging those chicas.

Once I get into my apartment I usually unpack everything then start hiding valuables. Don't put all your important stuff in one place. I put cash in books, under plants, in shoes hahaha. Just take a picture of each hiding spot or you'll forget. Next I immediately log into facebook (my Medellin account) and tinder and make it clear I'm in town. Usually within an hour my inbox starts dinging new messages and hearts on the status. All the girls that ignored me seem to become interested when they know I'm here and within range. Hahaha.

Setup: I usually walk to the grocery store on CL. 10. There I buy my Aguardiente, Titos, some flavored vodka, Ron Medellin and some sort of tequila. This is for my home bar and entertainment needs at home. Nothing worse than having a girl over and no alcohol to break the ice. Also good pregame sessions before partying at night. Lower tab too. I then walk back to the store and buy mixers and snacks to lay out on the table. Like the individual multipacks of chips and a large bottle water and ice. I usually by large a bucket of KFC for a few bucks. The chicas come over after the bars and melt over seeing fried chicken at 3 am. All together $35 in on food and drinks + alcohol. This is. My standard apartment set up.

Day time:

I don't normally see a ton of available chicas walking around LLares during the day. Mainly a bunch of locals and foreigners shopping and hanging out. So this is when I go site seeing and restaurants hopping. I'm a big foodie. Day time is Getting instagram pictures and crap to cover up to my friends back home why I am here hahahah. Normally if I develop an urge during the day I usually 100% hit up Photoprepagos website or Milleroticos which has been flawless for me so far. Only one bait and switch experience. Hahhah but it was fun and I still did it hahaha it was a good laugh moment for me to remember. I also have about 1000 chicas on my Medellin facebook account. Only one male friend hahahhaah. Read my other post on how I did that. Facebook is a expensive brothel to me at this point with quotes from 175 k up to 600 k depending on how into you she is.

CENTRO: HATE IT. Worst experience ever. Even worse in Bogota but Medellin hasn't given me anything either. I just can't find the places that everyone working girl shops peacefully hahah. Maybe it's me or my personality and comfort. Or just sick of the ghetto mindset.

Again I'm going to pissoff a few specific seasone people but it is what it is. I don't like digging through the weeds! Maybe I was on the wrong streets at the wrong time all 4 times that I tried. But it sucked! It was way too disgusting for me. It was like looking for a Dime in a crack house. Everyone around seemed sketchy, drugged out, transvestite, or just plain out unsafe. Never felt comfortable. Constantly watching for pick pockets or stick up kids, stepping over drugged out homeless people, everyone looking at me like who is this guy, (got called lebron James or mike Tyson easily 30 times.) A few normal people but I'm just too much of a sore thumb. Being a solo traveler with a sense of fashion and also standing at 6'4 250 lbs it's best for me to stay on the beaten path. I don't like having to dress like I'm homeless to blend in. That's just not fun to me. I don't like having to give the don't mess with me look to everyone that I pass and sees a gringo opportunity. I grew up in a similar environment just with northern americans. I just don't feel like I enjoy that kind of hunt anymore. Thats a last case environment for me personally. I reached my version of success in life. I have nooooo desire to fish in those lakes anymore even for a $40 discount. I'd perfer the environment where I can "safely" kick back more than being in alert mode while looking for chicas. Hope that makes sense. My face says I'm relaxed but my brain is in protection mode constantly. The whole street Walker scene is deep for me and I have to learn it at some point. But if you arent seasoned. Fine a buddy first or have dress homeless, put black stickers on your teeth so they appear missing, wear an eye patch, and drag one leg as if its limp until you see your diamond in the ruff. Maybe you'll feel blended in. Hahah.

At night around 10 pm I walk to Llares and go to Gustos for a few drinks to check the early talent. Usually on a Saturday there are about 20 girls and 20 to 30 guys walking around scoping each other out. I've got about 5 regulars in there and one bar tender so it's always like a reunion when I walk in. I normally order a few drinks and sit in the walking path tables. If nothing stunning crosses I go back down the elevator and walk to La Hacienda. THAT PLACE USED TO BE AMAZING WITH TALENT BUT THE PRICE WENT UP. One chica told me the whole scheme. Long story short, they are paid to be there. And must charge 600 k! She said they have to pay an exit fee themselves so they must stay until close hoping a guy willing to pay that price chooses them. The selection was impeccable and more girls than guys. But at 600 k I just flirt have a drink then sneak out after a few empty promises and phone numbers. Hahaha. Save this thought. After I sneak out I then bounce to all the little bars in the park. I normally find them too Colombian and find myself a bit too gringo. But I still force myself to go just for the experience. I then eventually find myself back to Gustos. I flirt with a few chicas while walking back but be careful. A few of the hid transvestite work the concrete stairs of the park getting guys going back and fourth through the bars. As it gets later I gain a bit more thirst to pick my night cap. By now the best one that I saw earlier is gone. And the 2nd best has a guy all over her. I'm normally kicking myself for passing on them at about 1 am. The alcohol is kicked in and my standards have lowere back into Gustos to see the new wave of partiers that have arrived since I left. I usually pick one one new one or a past. I get alot of higher quotes in gustos. Never lower than 250 k but max so far has been 350 k. RUMOR: So La Hacienda has been shut down by the city for whatever reason. My chica from there told me that all the girls now moved to the club down the street from Gustos by that weird little food window. It's like a expensive liquor storee and an open walled club above it that you can see from the street. I can't remember the name of it but theres always promoters trying to wave passer bye in. I never bit but this time I will try when I get there this Weekend. Worth a look. But. I hope they don't take that 600 k price with them and especially up to Gustos. If you guys are getting higher quotes there now, that would explain it. All it takes is for one girl to demand 600 k and then share with the other chicas and boom. Immediate inflation. (as if 300 k isn't already.) I perfer Gustos on a Sunday night. Seems like less guy competition as most are leaving early in the am and it appears the selection is alot more "available " and negotiations easier. On a Sunday I walk around like a God in there hahahah rejecting girls left and right hahahah. Saturday nights I have to do most of the ice breaking. I always use Photoprepagos and milleroticos to suppliment the days and evening sessions. I still find myself paying 200 k ish. Ove gone to the massage parlors during the day and was blown away by the 20 girl line up in Energy. But I kind of like entertaining in the privacy of my own home. It feels less mechanical when they are on my turf. By Monday morning all my snacks are gone, chicken buckets digested, alcohol down to the minimums. I normally book as late of a flight as possible for Monday. This way I have time to wake up hungover and maybe call in a chick from the sites for a farewell gift to myself.

This program works flawlessly for me and not for others.

Expenses: remember I plan for worst case so these numbers are the most I plan to spend. I always have carry over I budget Air BNb to cost me $70 to $90 per night paid before I arrive. Once on ground I budget 3 meals at $20 (usually cost less but this is how I plan it) so $60 per day for fine dining at great restaurants. I expect to buy $100 worth of alcohol for my home bar. I put 250 dollars per day for chicas (don't skimp here. This is the whole goal! That's a guaranteed 2 or 3 sessions (which is all I need). If using casa or sites it will cost less but just for budgeting purposes. I give myself an $80 bar tab limit which I never hit and usually have carry over. I plan $15 for ubers and taxi. That is a good base for me. Again corners and prices can be cut or surpassed!! That's just my expectations.

Final thought: buy condoms before arrival, buy alcohol in The air port or at a grocery store and not the liquor stores, use your debit card to get money in COP rather than bring dollars to exchange and ensure you notify your bank before. Stash emergency money and valuables in places besides the provided safe AND TAKE PICS OF WHERE. Don't aimlessly venture into Centro unless you're ready for that life. Get in convo with Tallman or Pollo Loco or whoever you feel knows how to handle that environment. I want you to be "safer" and "minimize" risk. Have snacks and drinks and mixers in your apartment to keep the chicas relaxed. I had a threesome that last 6 hours once because they were have so much fun. We banged and walked around naked and drinking and more sex over and over until they finally left. They begged to come back the next night but the train had left hahaha and a new chica was on board. Lastly set your own budget before coming. Think of everything you would want to do there in one day and put a escalated at max price next to it. Build a smart but flexible budget that is obtainable. Don't let anyone tell you you are spending too much or that the Centro girls are disgusting as I think they are. Figure out your program and perfect it.

My next goal is to figure out how to safely, privately, and low stressfully navigate Centro in a way I'm not always looking over my shoulder. In poblado it's the same as if I am at home, just with better women. And most of all, this program works for me!! It won't work for everyone unless you are as handsome as I am hahahha I'll be in Cartagena Tuesday through Friday then Medellin Saturday through Tuesday morning. Hit me up!

PolloNegro
08-18-19, 20:35
Hi,

I'm going to visit Colombia in 2 weeks. Aug 31-Sep 4 Cartagena, Sep 4 - Sep 8 Medellin.

New to the forum and the country, but not to the game - 20+ years mongering in US, DR, Mexico, Jamaica, Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Greece, Netherlands.

Have been reading the forum for couple weeks. Thanks a lot to veterans for time and efforts spent to help newbies to understand Medellin!

Booked already Ayenda 1235 Botero hotel (I read all cons and pros and despite my Spanish limited to 20 words -for many years just plan to start learning-I've been in rough places and hopefully will survive).

I have free cancellation with Expedia, so if veterans convince me that I should stay somewhere else. I'll think about it.I will be in the area all month long. Exercising and studying, you need any help, PM me and I'll assist you in any issue that I can! Pollo negro is out!

Mojo Bandit
08-18-19, 21:02
This is finally hitting Medellin as there seems to be some sentiment to keep those traveling here for vices away along with pushback on gentrification.I would have to wonder what percentage of the population actually feels this way. There is always an Element in every society that pushed back against change. I don't understand why "gentrification" is a bad thing in some places. When it crowds or people to where they can't afford the sky high rent I understand, but tourist are not moving to Medellin in drives, so I have to wonder if this isn't some people who just like to be against something.

Queens35
08-18-19, 21:50
All of your logic and points are right on the money as far as I am concerned. However everybody rolls different, and some guys are into Facebook and may be because they have never done the SW scene, visited a Casa, or hit up a Strip Club. Or it's just their personal preference as to how they want to roll.Lots of guys in this hobby prefer to order in because they have zero ability to communicate in Spanish, no social skills, scared of their own shadow, or all of the above.

Wolf662
08-18-19, 22:21
Hi,


Booked already Ayenda 1235 Botero hotel (I read all cons and pros and despite my Spanish limited to 20 words -for many years just plan to start learning-I've been in rough places and hopefully will survive).

I have free cancellation with Expedia, so if veterans convince me that I should stay somewhere else. I'll think about it.

The only question that bothers me for now -I've read that there is NO in-room safe in Botero hotel. Where do you guys keep your passports, cards, money?.I have stayed there 4 times for almost a month, I just hide my passport in the room but you can have the front desk put it in their safe but get it back on a week day a day or 2 early before you leave in case the office is closed when you leave. Money I just get what I need from the ATM every day, keep some in my pocket and most plus credit card and copy of passport in money belt under my clothes.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018RGQBZ6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Also read my lengthy review on the Hotel Botero (as it was called last year) in Forum: Colombia-Thread: Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments, post #925 lots of tips on the surrounding area.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2654-Medellin-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments/page10

Make sure you check out the rooftop bar, nice views of the city. Here's a video I took from up there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48fn1Nlw_is

Talon
08-18-19, 23:26
Your mistake is being so forward. Start with "mami como estas?" Then ask her if she would like to spend some time with you for a gift. 150 MIL CHUPA SIN CONDON is pretty irritating man.

EDIT: Also she's a dumb **** with that stupid message of her so maybe you should have offered 50k for her to crawl to your place suck your dick.I do actually banter with them first. You can only fit so much conversation on a mobile screen so I just jumped to the relevant part.

Combo
08-19-19, 00:30
Funny that the writer is railing against sex tourists, who at least spend money and boost the local economy, when his country is currently flooded with impoverished Venezuelans who depress local wages, take jobs, and strain health and human services. Read the local newspapers. There's plenty of Colombians railing against the wave of Venezuelans entering the country.

Turgid
08-19-19, 00:45
This is finally hitting Medellin as there seems to be some sentiment to keep those traveling here for vices away along with pushback on gentrification.I haven't read the attachment but my take as a frequent visitor to Medellin is that gringos have nothing to worry about. Colombians love Americans and things American. IMO if you are a young white American male you really don't even need to monger especially if you know a little Spanish.

Nounce
08-19-19, 01:38
My experience with Sprint has been no issue. As soon as I land (without buying a sim) I restart my phone. While I e I'm in Customs line I usually get a text message from Sprint saying "Welcome To Sprint, you are in Colombia" then it tells me my rates. Free text 25 cent per min calls. Now here's the catch. The service sucks when using GPS oriented apps. Google Maps, Uber, etc. Sprint sends a message right after the welcome text saying for $10 they can upgrade you to the "high speed" roaming capabilities. It's worth every penny. But sprint works there. Maybe it's a phone issue for some.One of us misunderstand what PN is saying. You are roaming so you don't have a problem. Try to put a Colombia SIM in your sprint phone to see if it works.

Golfinho
08-19-19, 03:23
Arrived Saturday and the tunnel on the airport route is open. About 40 minutes to Laureles. Taxis add the 18,000 toll making the fare 80 k, even though they probably save a couple litres of petrol.

Hermanthe
08-19-19, 11:45
For some of the newbies. I go to Medellin and Cartagena every few months. I have a set program that works "for me" I figured I would share. A lot of other seasoned mongers will hate my program. But to each their own. Maybe they're is someone similar to me personally wise that this will help. Because this is the Medellin board I will start there.First post for me here. I was just going to say thanks for the info mate. I am currently living in Udon Thani Thailand but going to visiting Colombia to see if I might move there (been in Thailand for 10 years now sort of looking for something new).

Anyway, what you wrote is pretty much exactly the same I do when I fly down to Pattaya for a few days. The only difference is I am a 36 year old 6'4 German LOL.

But I like to do the disco tours and a bit of partying as well with maybe some facebook action during the day as well. I can relate to kicking yourself for passing on a hotty just to come back later and she is gone or has a guy already.

That seems to happen regularly but I never learn hahaha.

Thanks for the info.

Orgasmico
08-19-19, 14:00
if you are a young white American male you really don't even need to monger especially if you know a little Spanish.Young guys will more naturally blend into social scenes, clubs, etc. with young regular chics. If your Spanish is on point, you can skip mongering even if you are older and pick up regular Colombian chics as well.

NormalAsianKid
08-19-19, 14:47
Hi everyone,

Been reading on the forums for a while but just made an account recently because I'm visiting Medellin over Labor Day for about a week. I've read all the tips and advice on here but it's still a pretty intimidating new world to dive into alone. But for my first attempt, it sounds like I'm better off trying the clubs or Facebook. Can someone explain how it works on Facebook? How do I even start a search for girls in Medellin on Facebook?

Or better yet, if anyone else is also going to be in the area. I'the love to meet up and learn from a more experienced member in person. Drinks on me.

Feel free to PM me.

Thanks,

NormalAsianKid.

El Mechanico
08-19-19, 15:25
I have stayed there 4 times for almost a month, Wolf, Have you stayed there since the name / mgmy change? Is it still as chica friendly as the HBP was?

TIA,

El Mechanico.

El Mechanico
08-19-19, 15:27
Lots of guys in this hobby prefer to order in because they have zero ability to communicate in Spanish, no social skills, scared of their own shadow, or all of the above.Funny, You just described the Mansion Regulars!

JjBee62
08-19-19, 19:05
Hi everyone,

Been reading on the forums for a while but just made an account recently because I'm visiting Medellin over Labor Day for about a week. I've read all the tips and advice on here but it's still a pretty intimidating new world to dive into alone. But for my first attempt, it sounds like I'm better off trying the clubs or Facebook. Can someone explain how it works on Facebook? How do I even start a search for girls in Medellin on Facebook?

Or better yet, if anyone else is also going to be in the area. I'the love to meet up and learn from a more experienced member in person. Drinks on me.

Feel free to PM me.

Thanks,

NormalAsianKid.Here's the easy way:

Go to Facebook. Search for "happy ending Medellin." Go to the first profile that pops up. Go to the friend list. There are at least 28 working girls on the friend list, but it's probably closer to 50. There are also a large number of gringo mongers on the list.

Look at each girl's Facebook. If she looks good, add her as a friend. Repeat until you've sent a friend request to all of them. In a few hours you should start getting responses. Some will respond in a few hours, some in a few weeks, some never.

While you're waiting, start looking at each girl's friend list, if you can see it. Check out her friends. Many of them may be available. Add the best prospects. You can carry this as deep as you want. I've found girls that were 5 levels deep. You can do the same with all the gringo mongers. If you can see their friends, add the girls.

Some girls will message you immediately. These ones are hit and miss. Many will realize you're new and try to get a higher price. When you're a week away from landing start sending messages to your new friends. Keep it simple, especially if you're using Google translate. Don't rush to the goal. Most will pretty quickly tell you "quiero verte", I want to see you.

Don't try to set up a time until you're on the ground and settled in. Remember, traffic is bad and most live 30-60 minutes away. Also keep in mind that they need to get ready, and many need to find a babysitter.

Things to watch out for:

Any woman who quotes prices in dollars. Just tell her "Dale. Cuando estás en mi ciudad, the pagaré en dolares." Okay. When you're in my city I will pay you with dollars.

Any woman that immediately starts laying down the rules. Most will insist on a condom for sex. If they insist on condom for oral, either accept it, or pass. Don't offer more money. There are plenty who will be fine with chupa sin condon.

Any woman who claims to have lost her cedula. There's a good chance she doesn't have one because she's not 18 yet.

Any woman who starts at higher than 300 k. I always answer with "siempre pago ciento cincuenta mil, mas veinte mil para taxi. " I always pay 150 k, plus 20 k for taxi. You can bump to 200 k (dos cientos mil) if you want.

Some guys insist you should clarify everything you want before. If you need anything out of the ordinary, that's a good idea. Personally, I don't bother. Nothing on my list is ever an issue. I also don't specify a time limit. If you tell her 1 hour, she'll expect more if she spends 2 hours. However, most are fine with spending 2 or 3 hours.

Don't pay in advance. Don't leave the girl unattended, unless she's in the bathroom. Don't let her mix drinks or make food for you.

Fun Luvr
08-19-19, 19:53
Arrived Saturday and the tunnel on the airport route is open. About 40 minutes to Laureles. Taxis add the 18,000 toll making the fare 80 k, even though they probably save a couple litres of petrol.Thanks for the information. I think the taxis raised their rates to 80 mil at least a couple months ago.

Surfer500
08-19-19, 20:31
It's sad how bad the air gets contaminated here in town. Especially when there are no windy days and / or rain to cleanse the air in the Valley.

You don't really realize how bad it is until you leave town. I went to Guatape for the weekend and you could see for miles in the crisp crystal clear air in the mountains.

Upon returning to town, you could see the smog sitting in the valley and the air smelled bad. I remember back in the Spring the air contamination was so bad that one week all of the public "Undiad Deportivas" sport complexes were closed for almost a week. It's even gotten so bad in the past they have even banned cars besides Pico and Placa and let everyone ride the METRO for free.

The majority of the air pollution comes from all of the vehicles. They require annual smog checks for all the vehicles here. However, their emission allowances are not as strict as many locales in the USA. They have a higher sulfer content in the gasoline here. So they are saving money by not having to refine the gasoline as much. They could help alleviate the problem by refining the gasoline more but it would increase the cost of gasoline substantially.

Additionally, the City has been putting in dedicated bike lanes all over the City to help go green. However, by doing so they have also taken away car lanes and as a result travel time by car and congestion has increased substantially in the areas with the dedicated bike lanes.

Wolf662
08-19-19, 21:04
Wolf, Have you stayed there since the name / mgmy change? Is it still as chica friendly as the HBP was?

TIA,

El Mechanico.No I have not but I think PolloNegro has, PM him. Although I assume still chica friendly or he would have stayed somewhere else.

Iguana Six
08-19-19, 22:09
This is finally hitting Medellin as there seems to be some sentiment to keep those traveling here for vices away along with pushback on gentrification.It was very well translated, very few mistakes. Any idea who put it up? The same people with the "say NO to the sex tourist" stickers?

Surfer500
08-19-19, 23:19
Girls really have an inflated sense of what they're worth compared to FB. 300 k is a typical asking price.If this was an exchange you had with a Chica on Tinder, she gave you some very sound advice after the counter offer of 150 K you made to her.

She said to go get a SW, good advice, and perhaps you should respond back to her.

Tell her you spent 300 K for ten sessions with various Chicas off the street and there were no rules!

Perhaps some of these Chicas will come to their senses after a few responses like that.

VsebudetNY
08-20-19, 00:18
I have stayed there 4 times for almost a month, I just hide my passport in the room but you can have the front desk put it in their safe but get it back on a week day a day or 2 early before you leave in case the office is closed when you leave. Money I just get what I need from the ATM every day, keep some in my pocket and most plus credit card and copy of passport in money belt under my clothes.
Also read my lengthy review on the Hotel Botero (as it was called last year) in Forum: Colombia-Thread: Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments, post #925 lots of tips on the surrounding area.
Wolf. Thank you very much for the tips and detailed review!


I don't really recommend El Centro to Latin big city newbies who don't speak any Spanish. I'm newbie to Colombia and don't speak any Spanish, but have a lot of experience navigating through DR and other countries (rough places. Not Blackbeards) - I'm going to be extra careful, don't walk after dawn. Only taxi and Uber. You still don't recommend El Centro?

Paulie97
08-20-19, 00:33
The link below is Charm City Dave's link in the Google Fi "refer a friend" program. He gets a $20 credit for each new subscriber that signs up through it. He drops like glowing reports and the link here in ISG from time to time, but has never informed us that he has a financial stake in it. The report may contain some good information but do consider the context. Cheers.


I used to juggle sim cards when I traveled. I tried T-Mobile and Sprint internationally and hated the slow speeds and awful customer service.

If you spend any significant amount of time outside the US, and are from the US, I think Google Fi is a no-brainer for mobile phone service. It's cheap, reliable and has excellent customer service. It leverages both the Sprint and T-Mobile international networks seamlessly connecting to the strongest. When I was in Peru and T-Mobile's network was down it auto-connected to Sprint. When I was in New Zealand which had no Sprint partner it worked great with T-Mobile. I get LTE speed over 95% of the time. When connected to Wifi calls home are free. Otherwise 20 cents a minute. Free SMS worldwide. Pay for the mobile data you use. My monthly bills average less than $30 a month. Only downside is that it works best with the phones they sell, though it is now compatible with other phones (see their site). I'm a Pixel fan boy, think they are better than iPhones and now they have the mid-range priced 3 a series. I have used it in 14 countries (including Colombia).

If you are interested in learning more here is a like to the Google Fi site which has all the info. You also get $20 off if you sign up through this site.

https://g.co/fi/r/AV50AT

VsebudetNY
08-20-19, 00:35
I will be in the area all month long. Exercising and studying, you need any help, PM me and I'll assist you in any issue that I can! Pollo negro is out!Thank you very much! I'm working on my subscription. Will definitely PM you if I get it.

PolloNegro
08-20-19, 01:29
No I have not but I think PolloNegro has, PM him. Although I assume still chica friendly or he would have stayed somewhere else.And yes Wolf knows me well, I would have stayed else where, and the price has been cut in half, so if you have ever stayed and liked it, the price is cheaper and still chica friendly. I have no complaints. It's now called Ayenda Hotel Botero, pollo negro is out!

Charm City Dave
08-20-19, 01:41
Funny, You just described the Mansion Regulars!I admit I have a love-hate relationship with the Mansion. Yep it is a bit of a crutch and one certainly does not have to stay there to meet great girls. But it has some advantages even for the seasoned MDE visitor.

First (and with an unblemished history of heterosexuality) I've made some great friends from the fellow travelers that have stayed there. Second they do an excellent job of validating cedulas. JjBee62 wisely advises us to avoid 'Any woman who claims to have lost her cedula. There's a good chance she doesn't have one because she's not 18 yet. ' The mansion regularly busts girls with fake cedulas. You can buy one in MDE for a few dollars. Many JB girls use their older sisters or cousins cedula. You can get in just as much trouble banging a 17 yo with a fake cedula as you can a 17 yo with no cedula. And while I pass on 80% of the girls that frequent there, I've found some great ones there, especially girls that are new to the Mansion. New girls are always showing up there. The older crew hates me and labeled me 'Senior Cita' because I'm always putting them off telling them I already have a Cita, often with girls that don't fequent the Mansion. I don't care. I speak passable Spanish. I have 1000 MDE contacts in my Facebook.

Sometimes I stay in an Apartment. Sometime I'll start my trip in the Mansion and then go to an apartment. Sometimes I'm just in an apartment mood, especially when I have friends in town. But there are fewer buildings in MDE that allow short term rental and do a good job of security. But I don't look down on or ridicule the guys who only stay there. Getting laid several times a day it's nice to have daily maid service. Sometimes I've paid a a few bucks just to get my sheets changed more than once a day lol... Some of the rooms are dated. Some are noisy. If I can't get the room I want (or more frequently they want me to play musical rooms), I don't stay there. As for the 'Mansion Regular', some have been going to MDE for many years, don't need the Mansion. They just prefer it. To each their own.

As a side note I wish there were nice hotels in good neighborhoods that allowed mutiple chicas a day but I haven't found them. If someone has some intel in that area, please share it.

Orgasmico
08-20-19, 01:46
I went to Guatape for the weekend and you could see for miles in the crisp crystal clear air in the mountains.

How was Guatape on the weekend? I've been meaning to get back out there and a friend was telling me it's much better during midweek as far as not as crowded.

Pepqk
08-20-19, 02:01
Hi,

I generally prefer hotels, but if they won't let the chica in, I will go to an apartment.

Are chicas banned from hotels in Medellin?

What if they arrive separately and to your room alone?

Thanks in advance.I've done both Franko and no problem. Both your Airbnb doorman and hotel front desk will check her ID though. Enjoy!

Orgasmico
08-20-19, 02:25
Arrived Saturday and the tunnel on the airport route is open. About 40 minutes to Laureles. Taxis add the 18,000 toll making the fare 80 k, even though they probably save a couple litres of petrol.https://telemedellin.tv/hasta-3-horas-tunel-de-oriente/347156/

Hasta 3 why 4 horas tardaron algunos ciudadanos en desplazarse entre Medelland why Rionegro utilizando el Tnel de Oriente.

It took up to 3 and 4 hours for some citizens to travel between Medellin and Rionegro using the Oriente Tunnel.

Combo
08-20-19, 02:27
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2360369]Young guys will more naturally blend into social scenes, clubs, etc. with young regular chics. If your Spanish is on point, you can skip mongering even if you are older and pick up regular about being with you.

The key is time on the ground. If you're in MDE for a month or more, non-pros become a legitimate option. Much less than that and the girls (non-pros) are generally leery about being with you.

Wolf662
08-20-19, 03:03
Wolf. Thank you very much for the tips and detailed review!

I'm newbie to Colombia and don't speak any Spanish, but have a lot of experience navigating through DR and other countries (rough places. Not Blackbeards) - I'm going to be extra careful, don't walk after dawn. Only taxi and Uber. You still don't recommend El Centro?Naw, just look like you know where you are going and what you are doing, no flashy jewelry and wear and keep the phone in your pocket and taxis for more then a block or 2 at night although I walked to the 3 close strip clubs at all hours. Some of my buddies who speak no Spanish have stayed there with no problems.

DreamCarnarvon
08-20-19, 03:55
OK guys, for the frequent posters here, why'all know I've posted my intention of coming to Colombia on this forum. I originally planned for a full 3 months to be split between Colombia, Sao Paulo, & Rio. The bad news is I will have settle for 9 weeks instead. The good news is the trip is still happening! I plan to stay 3 weeks in Colombia.

I'm currently shopping for flight tickets. I found flights from LAX to Bogota to be almost half as much as flights to Sao Paulo. So its obvious from the money side, that I should fly into Bogota. I then will stay one night in Bogota and then fly to Rio the next day. After spending 6 weeks in Brazil, I will fly back to Bogota and stay in Colombia for 3 weeks. Then from Bogota, I will fly back to the states. I know logistically this is doable. How does flight plan seem to you guys? I will have problems with customs in either Brazil or Colombia? That's the only thing I'm worried about.

I know Colombia require travelers from Brazil a yellow vaccination to enter the country, which I already gotten earlier this year, so I should be good from that.

Surfer500
08-20-19, 04:08
How was Guatape on the weekend? I've been meaning to get back out there and a friend was telling me it's much better during midweek as far as not as crowded.Your friends advice is correct, don't bother going there on the weekends because of the crowds, midweek is best. I took my Novia there over the weekend, but we were shacked up at Hotel Los Recuerdos in a Suite overlooking the Lake so no problems with the crowds except in the chow line for dinner at the Hotel.

Surfer500
08-20-19, 04:13
Wolf. Thank you very much for the tips and detailed review!

I'm newbie to Colombia and don't speak any Spanish, but have a lot of experience navigating through DR and other countries (rough places. Not Blackbeards) - I'm going to be extra careful, don't walk after dawn. Only taxi and Uber. You still don't recommend El Centro?No Spanish speaking skills doesn't mean that you can't navigate or be successful in El Centro, but it's not like the DR where most of the clients are foreigners versus in El Centro where most of the clients are Colombians. Probably best to stick to the Casa's as El Centro can be dangerous and a bit tricky at times, especially with no Spanish speaking skills.

KilledSoul
08-20-19, 04:51
Any woman who quotes prices in dollars. Just tell her "Dale. Cuando ests en mi ciudad, the pagar en dolares." Okay. When you're in my city I will pay you with dollars.

Any woman that immediately starts laying down the rules. Most will insist on a condom for sex. If they insist on condom for oral, either accept it, or pass. Don't offer more money. There are plenty who will be fine with chupa sin condon.

Any woman who claims to have lost her cedula. There's a good chance she doesn't have one because she's not 18 yet.

Any woman who starts at higher than 300 k. I always answer with "siempre pago ciento cincuenta mil, mas veinte mil para taxi. " I always pay 150 k, plus 20 k for taxi. You can bump to 200 k (dos cientos mil) if you want.

Some guys insist you should clarify everything you want before. If you need anything out of the ordinary, that's a good idea. Personally, I don't bother. Nothing on my list is ever an issue. I also don't specify a time limit. If you tell her 1 hour, she'll expect more if she spends 2 hours. However, most are fine with spending 2 or 3 hours.

Don't pay in advance. Don't leave the girl unattended, unless she's in the bathroom. Don't let her mix drinks or make food for you.Do you pay 150 k + taxi for one pop or two pops?

KilledSoul
08-20-19, 05:59
Been in Medellin for some time. FB scene lives upto its hype. Probably nowhere in the world, FB is used liked this. Most of the girls I sessioned with had pretty good attitudes.

1. Dahiana Meija (fb valentina. Mejia. 355138):

Face: Pretty good.

Body: Little extra fat which she could lose.

Attitude: I have a mixed feelings, others may have a great time with her.

Service: She can be wild in the bed.

Beautiful face, she has fat on her midsection. A thorough professional, unfortunately had a very hurried experience with her because of time constraints. Others can try and post a review. Never asked her but she does anal.

WIR: Probably no, as I like girls next door. She seems to be extremely high volume.

2. Angie (fb profile. Php? ID=100009051552032):

Face: Average.

Body: Average.

Attitude: Pretty good. She tries to be bubbly and engaged when she is with you.

Service: Average in bed.

She is tries to act like your GF, when you are with her. Cheerful, sweet and bubbly girl.

3. Jenifer (fb jenifer. Restrepo. 754):

Face: 0/10.

Body: 0/10.

Service: 10/10 Facefuck.

First time I met her, she gave a pretty good blowjob, I came in short amount of time with CIM and swallowed like a champ. Didn't even fuck her and she wanted out ASAP.

Some other time late at night a girl cancelled on me and I couldn't arrange anyone else I fancied to come at that hour. Contacted her, she agreed even when she didn't have data on phone and we would have no means to communicate after she leaves her home. And incidentally her taxi couldn't find my hotel. But somehow she reached at middle of night.

*Warning: Sex acts details incoming, skip if you don't want to read. *.

And thus began epic face-fuckathon. Fucked her face for a long long time, can't even take a guess in minutes, it seemed like eternity. She would put my dick in her mouth and I would shove down her throat and her face fuck her till she was short of breath, she would take catch her breath and we go again. In middle, I thought maybe I will give her some rest and let her do it at her own pace. Again she put my dick in her mouth, but this time I didn't grab her head to shove it down. She looks up, still dick in her mouth and give me the "What happened, why are you not facefuking me?" eyes. LOL.

At the end I got tired and jerked myself into her mouth, but this time didn't swallow for some reason.

*Sex Acts end here*.

WIR: If fancy a Facefuck.

4. Juliana (fb profile. Php? ID=100010105123369):

Face: Decent.

Body: Pretty big and tight boobs.

Service: Not bad, not good.

Had an average forgetable session with her. In the middle of the fuck she tried telling her pussy is done and can't take anymore. She seemed very mercenary.

WIR: No.

KilledSoul
08-20-19, 06:02
5. Lory Maciass (fb 020715lory):

Face: Pretty good.

Body: Decent, she has little bit of baby damage.

Attitude: Really good, is very fun and has an amazing taste in music.

Based on her attitude while we were spending time with each other I thought I found a unicorn but unfortunately she has a very bad case of yeast infection. My dick went soft, she tried to get me off by blowing but her yeast infection was so offputting that my dick had become an inverted vagina and no blow amount of blow could convince it to come out. Gave her 100 k for her time.

WIR: No.

6. Manuela (not mentioning fb link in respect for the previous poster who had reviewed her but himself didn't give the profile link):

Face: Pretty good.

Body: previous poster's appreciation for her boobs is justified. Amazing natural boobs.

Attitude: not bad.

Service: 0/10.

Had second worst experience with her. She asked propina even for blowjob with condom. Maybe she had a bad day when she met me in the evening or she didn't like me at all. She was the perfect example of YMMV as previous had a decent experience her and he even did a repeat. She seemed very very mercenary and it was all about the money as if I picked a Street Walker from Tijuana.

7. valentina Meija (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100036270324071):

Worst.

She was sending her nudes whole week to me to meet her and talking a lot of shit on messenger. Finally when we met it was the greatest anti-climax ever.

Someone said on this forum: "Girl which talks the most before the session, performs the worst". Truer words have never been spoken. Just a clarification, talking the most is here is about how she will be amazing and how you much you will enjoy etc. Not the regular chatting.

I qouted every one 150 plus taxi and I paid everyone between 170 k and 200 k COP including taxi.

In conclusion, I have been very impressed by Medellin. If you want to check out lots of pictures of girls and then call them to your hotel for a non-mechanical session for just 60 USD Probably this is the best city in the world to do that.

P.S: forum is behaving weirdly and putting unnecessary "hard returns/Enter" even where I didn't put when writing the report

JjBee62
08-20-19, 10:33
Do you pay 150 k + taxi for one pop or two pops?That falls under "I don't specify. " I'm generally a one and done guy. However, I'm usually spending 2 hours minimum with the girls. I've had a few girls, after a short recovery period, initiate a second round, but they rarely get a second pop. That's because the second one takes some serious dedication.

One of my favorite sessions, although not one of my favorite girls, was interesting. She was pretty distant at the beginning, shy, not initiating anything. Then I found her buttons and she turned into a beast. Finished me off and we laid down to catch our breath and take a short nap. 30 minutes later she attacked again. Got me up, grabbed a condom and rode me like a pogo stick until she spent about 2 minutes screaming. As soon as her breathing returned to normal, she hopped off, rolled over and went right to sleep.

For me, I don't do hour citas. If a girl tells me her rate is for an hour, I explain that I don't do time limits. If we're having fun we don't want to be staring at the clock. I did specify with one of my repeats that we would be spending a minimum of 3 hours together. Another new girl I specified all night, even though we ended up only spending 5 hours together. When it was over I paid her the TLN rate, because I was the one who was finished. She complained that I'd paid her too much since I didn't get the full time.

Golfinho
08-20-19, 12:16
https://telemedellin.tv/hasta-3-horas-tunel-de-oriente/347156/

Hasta 3 why 4 horas tardaron algunos ciudadanos en desplazarse entre Medelland why Rionegro utilizando el Tnel de Oriente.
It took up to 3 and 4 hours for some citizens to travel between Medellin and Rionegro using the Oriente Tunnel.It took 52 minutes to go to airport via tunnel yesterday. Was a bit of traffic. Had a laugh at the giant yellow and black squirrel sign.

Surfer500
08-20-19, 13:30
How was Guatape on the weekend? I've been meaning to get back out there and a friend was telling me it's much better during midweek as far as not as crowded.Good advice from your friend, go during the week for sure!

Talon
08-20-19, 17:11
Wolf. Thank you very much for the tips and detailed review!

I'm newbie to Colombia and don't speak any Spanish, but have a lot of experience navigating through DR and other countries (rough places. Not Blackbeards) - I'm going to be extra careful, don't walk after dawn. Only taxi and Uber. You still don't recommend El Centro?If price is your main concern then there's many bargains to be had with the various strip clubs, casas, and streetwalkers in centro. I've been there a few times (I'm tall, blonde, and white as a cloud, so I don't exactly blend in) and you'll be fine during the day, as long as you're not an idiot. Don't go wearing a bunch of gold jewelry, or taking videos with the latest Iphone, or flashing stacks of cash, or anything that will paint a giant target on your back. At night though I would only go as part of a larger group or with a trusted local to act as a guide and guard.

Beobeo
08-20-19, 20:45
That falls under "I don't specify. " I'm generally a one and done guy. However, I'm usually spending 2 hours minimum with the girls. I've had a few girls, after a short recovery period, initiate a second round, but they rarely get a second pop. That's because the second one takes some serious dedication.

One of my favorite sessions, although not one of my favorite girls, was interesting. She was pretty distant at the beginning, shy, not initiating anything. Then I found her buttons and she turned into a beast. Finished me off and we laid down to catch our breath and take a short nap. 30 minutes later she attacked again. Got me up, grabbed a condom and rode me like a pogo stick until she spent about 2 minutes screaming. As soon as her breathing returned to normal, she hopped off, rolled over and went right to sleep.

For me, I don't do hour citas. If a girl tells me her rate is for an hour, I explain that I don't do time limits. If we're having fun we don't want to be staring at the clock. I did specify with one of my repeats that we would be spending a minimum of 3 hours together. Another new girl I specified all night, even though we ended up only spending 5 hours together. When it was over I paid her the TLN rate, because I was the one who was finished. She complained that I'd paid her too much since I didn't get the full time.Some Facebook girls will ask for how much am I paying her before she comes, which is fine. I prefer we all on an agreement. But some girls won't talk about prices even though I try to discuss it with her. Do you ever run into problem with girls at the end because she want more? My price is 150 m + taxi, 300 m if it's a TLN (Asuming you haven't done her before).

Mr Enternational
08-20-19, 21:53
FB scene lives upto its hype. Probably nowhere in the world, FB is used liked this. Most of the girls I sessioned with had pretty good attitudes.

Someone said on this forum: "Girl which talks the most before the session, performs the worst". Truer words have never been spoken.The phrase is an empty wagon makes the most noise.

I found it funny that you were turned off about something in each session that you reported. Maybe it lives up to the hype that you can easily get chicks there, but getting a good session that you would consider repeating seems to be another story in your case.

Mr Enternational
08-20-19, 22:01
For me, I don't do hour citas. If a girl tells me her rate is for an hour, I explain that I don't do time limits. If a girl tells me her rate for an hour, I ask how much for just 15 minutes.

Surfer500
08-21-19, 01:12
Arrived at the above mentioned location in El Centro along side the Museum at 4:30 PM on Tuesday afternoon. I have never seen so many Chicas out and available ever before. Hundreds of them within a 300 Meter radius of this location. Mind boggling to say the least. Within 5 minutes one of my regulars, a tiny little spinner came up to me and asked me to go Arriba.

A rough decision for me as El Centro is kind of like an ice cream shop with all the choices of flavors. So much variety, on Monday afternoon when I was in El Centro I met up with my Indian Princess, she swears she is not Indigenous but is, and is tall with a body like a Zebra, and tight as a drum!

I actually was in the mood for a spinner, another one of my tight ones, so I took her Ariba.

Today you almost needed a fly swatter in El Centro to fend off all the Chicas available.

Surfer500
08-21-19, 01:23
It took 52 minutes to go to airport via tunnel yesterday. Was a bit of traffic. Had a laugh at the giant yellow and black squirrel sign.What time of day and where did you start from in Medellin. Another words, were you say in Laureles, and from the time they picked you up and dropped you off at the Terminal it was 52 minutes. And where was the traffic, inside the Tunnel or before or after?

Surfer500
08-21-19, 01:41
If a girl tells me her rate for an hour, I ask how much for just 15 minutes.All due respect Mr. E, but somebody might read this and think you ejaculate pre-maturely if your only interested in a fifteen minute session, which I assume is not the case here.

If a girl tells you how much for an hour, instead of asking her how much for 15 minutes, you tell her you only want 15 minutes and offer her 1/4 of the price you were quoted.

Most probably the girl will be very insulted, and maybe offer a small price break but not much for less time. Thankfully here in Medellin it is not like in Tijuana where a lot of the street girls turn the timers on when you enter the room!

VsebudetNY
08-21-19, 03:17
If price is your main concern then there's many bargains to be had with the various strip clubs, casas, and streetwalkers in centro. I've been there a few times (I'm tall, blonde, and white as a cloud, so I don't exactly blend in) and you'll be fine during the day, as long as you're not an idiot. The price is not my main concern, but as I have only 4 nights in Medellin after reading multiple reports I decided to stay closer to action.


Don't go wearing a bunch of gold jewelry...That's easy doable as I'm not wearing any jewelry even in NY LOL. Need just switch watch to the cheap model.

Thanks for the advice.

VsebudetNY
08-21-19, 03:25
No Spanish speaking skills doesn't mean that you can't navigate or be successful in El Centro, but it's not like the DR where most of the clients are foreigners versus in El Centro where most of the clients are Colombians. Probably best to stick to the Casa's as El Centro can be dangerous and a bit tricky at times, especially with no Spanish speaking skills.Thank you. Will start with the Casa's and hopefully will get more tips from PolloNegro on the ground.

MedellinGringo
08-21-19, 05:49
Some Facebook girls will ask for how much am I paying her before she comes, which is fine. I prefer we all on an agreement. But some girls won't talk about prices even though I try to discuss it with her. Do you ever run into problem with girls at the end because she want more? My price is 150 m + taxi, 300 m if it's a TLN (Asuming you haven't done her before).I have had the best experiences with women that don't talk price before meeting you and a few that never brought up price at all. I just paid them what I thought they were worth and never got a complaint.

A hardened hoe will always try and nail down the price beforehand. But girls that don't want to torture themselves by fucking guys that that absolutely despise will look for guys that they are OK with and can be very accommodating on their price especially if you let it be known that you would like to see them on a regular basis.

Mojo Bandit
08-21-19, 07:32
I have been working on building a Facebook list and getting some whatsapp contacts as part of the process. I have been Facebook messaging some of these girls if I am not sure if they are prepagos or not. I was taking to this chica who's Facebook I am going to post below, amazing body pretty face, and I think she is one of the best I have seen looks wise. So we exchanged whatsapp numbers and she text me saying " I need a phone". Now I still might want to experience this girl so I do not laugh at her like I wanted to. I just tell her "nothing I can do about that from here", then she sends me a photo of an open refrigerator that is completely empty and says "No tengo mercado" , too which I reply "lo siento". So I said "I might be able to get ahold of some gringos in Medellin and get you a cita, would she like that? And she says "si". I have not had any real world experience with these chicas in medellin or on Facebook and the whole thing seemed strange to me, I started getting the feeling that she may not be real, she has a shitload of contacts 1600 followers, over a hundred likes on her photos, many of which are gringos with those made up names that they use for their monger profiles, and her refrigerator is empty and she can't find her own cita by messaging around all these followers?. Does a girl this pretty need to hustle guys on the internet for money?. Anyway I did tell her I would try to find her a date and if she is for real, I might be doing you a favor. Anyone knows if she is a real thing I would like to know.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100030230804142

Feedback appreciated as always.

Chicafan
08-21-19, 07:43
I have been working on building a Facebook list and getting some whatsapp contacts as part of the process. I have been Facebook messaging some of these girls if I am not sure if they are prepagos or not. I was taking to this chica who's Facebook I am going to post below, amazing body pretty face, and I think she is one of the best I have seen looks wise. So we exchanged whatsapp numbers and she text me saying " I need a phone". Now I still might want to experience this girl so I do not laugh at her like I wanted to. I just tell her "nothing I can do about that from here", then she sends me a photo of an open refrigerator that is completely empty and says "No tengo mercado" , too which I reply "lo siento". So I said "I might be able to get ahold of some gringos in Medellin and get you a cita, would she like that? And she says "si". I have not had any real world experience with these chicas in medellin or on Facebook and the whole thing seemed strange to me, I started getting the feeling that she may not be real, she has a shitload of contacts 1600 followers, over a hundred likes on her photos, many of which are gringos with those made up names that they use for their monger profiles, and her refrigerator is empty and she can't find her own cita by messaging around all these followers?. Does a girl this pretty need to hustle guys on the internet for money?. Anyway I did tell her I would try to find her a date and if she is for real, I might be doing you a favor. Anyone knows if she is a real thing I would like to know.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100030230804142

Feedback appreciated as always.Is here wpp number Medellin or at least Colombian? I follow a girl from Mexico on IG and unless I'm mistaken these are her photos. I hope I am wrong but think this is a fake profile.

Mojo Bandit
08-21-19, 08:11
Is here wpp number Medellin or at least Colombian? I follow a girl from Mexico on IG and unless I'm mistaken these are her photos. I hope I am wrong but think this is a fake profile.She definitely has a colombian number +57 350 number.

JjBee62
08-21-19, 12:16
Some Facebook girls will ask for how much am I paying her before she comes, which is fine. I prefer we all on an agreement. But some girls won't talk about prices even though I try to discuss it with her. Do you ever run into problem with girls at the end because she want more? My price is 150 m + taxi, 300 m if it's a TLN (Asuming you haven't done her before).If a new girl won't give me a price, unless I'm setting up a date (rarely), instead of a session, I won't bother meeting her. If it's obvious we're talking about sex I'll ask how much. If she doesn't give an answer, I tell her what I usually pay and then ask if that's ok. If she still won't answer I'll tell her to message me when she decides and move on.

JjBee62
08-21-19, 12:32
I have been working on building a Facebook list and getting some whatsapp contacts as part of the process. I have been Facebook messaging some of these girls if I am not sure if they are prepagos or not. I was taking to this chica who's Facebook I am going to post below, amazing body pretty face, and I think she is one of the best I have seen looks wise. So we exchanged whatsapp numbers and she text me saying " I need a phone". Now I still might want to experience this girl so I do not laugh at her like I wanted to. I just tell her "nothing I can do about that from here", then she sends me a photo of an open refrigerator that is completely empty and says "No tengo mercado" , too which I reply "lo siento". So I said "I might be able to get ahold of some gringos in Medellin and get you a cita, would she like that? And she says "si". I have not had any real world experience with these chicas in medellin or on Facebook and the whole thing seemed strange to me, I started getting the feeling that she may not be real, she has a shitload of contacts 1600 followers, over a hundred likes on her photos, many of which are gringos with those made up names that they use for their monger profiles, and her refrigerator is empty and she can't find her own cita by messaging around all these followers?. Does a girl this pretty need to hustle guys on the internet for money?. Anyway I did tell her I would try to find her a date and if she is for real, I might be doing you a favor. Anyone knows if she is a real thing I would like to know.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100030230804142

Feedback appreciated as always.Is she real? Probably not. Look at her profile. Every picture was added on June 9 and 10. No other entries. I didn't do an image search, but I assume you will find those photos used elsewhere. I get a request from a few accounts like that one each week. Unless you're looking for an excuse to send money to some guy in Colombia, they're a complete waste of time.

If she needs a phone, how did she send you a picture of an empty refrigerator? Have her send a picture of herself in front of an empty refrigerator. If she's sending you pictures, ask for something specific. If it's just someone using stock photos he's going to have a tough time finding a picture of her drinking a Colombiana.

If she wants you to send money have her send a photo of her cedula, front and back, and a picture of her holding the cedula. That's when you'll learn about the lost cedula. Fortunately, she has a cousin named Brayan who you can send the money to.

Mr Enternational
08-21-19, 13:42
I have been working on building a Facebook list and getting some whatsapp contacts as part of the process. I have been Facebook messaging some of these girls if I am not sure if they are prepagos or not.2019. Who is going around adding and answering messages from strangers on facebook? Only hookers. Who the hell has only various pictures of themselves dressed in slutty clothing and seems to be proud to write "I do not work" on facebook? Only hookers or someone that is trying to hustle you for money. I am not sure where your doubt lies.


So we exchanged whatsapp numbers and she text me saying " I need a phone". Now I still might want to experience this girl so I do not laugh at her like I wanted to. I just tell her "nothing I can do about that from here", then she sends me a photo of an open refrigerator that is completely empty and says "No tengo mercado" , too which I reply "lo siento". So I said "I might be able to get ahold of some gringos in Medellin and get you a cita,.All this shit sounds ridiculous. This is why there is no need to prearrange hookers. If a hooker can not bring you pussy right now what is the use? But of course a trick can make a payment 24/7/365. Why would a total stranger need to hook a hooker up with a foreigner when there are millions of local guys that she can service? She knows where she can go if she needs to get money on her back. But what an angel you are for offering to help her find other foreigners to fleece. Why waste your time with this shit dude? Walk into a casa or strip club, pick a chick you like, go fuck. No fuss, no muss, no sob stories.


My trip to the Philippines is still many weeks away and I've been playing around with Pina Love for free for about 2 weeks now as a social experiment. The amount of bullshit on this site is truly nauseating.

My strategy is to not waste any more time on dating apps like PL, FC or DIA. I'm just going to land at NAIA, pick up a free SIM, insert it into my mongering phone, turn on WeChat and Tinder, and go hunt some pussy. There is no point in over complicating things.

Surfer500
08-21-19, 14:18
I have had the best experiences with women that don't talk price before meeting you and a few that never brought up price at all. I just paid them what I thought they were worth and never got a complaint.

A hardened hoe will always try and nail down the price beforehand. But girls that don't want to torture themselves by fucking guys that that absolutely despise will look for guys that they are OK with and can be very accommodating on their price especially if you let it be known that you would like to see them on a regular basis.Some of my best experiences have been with SW's in EL Centro who have quoted me 20 K with no discussion of what would transpire whatsoever in the room. Granted these are not beauty queens by any stretch of the imagination, but not fuglies, and some of them have become part of my stable whom I pay very well, anywhere from 40 to 60 K now as they are performers and I get the full Monty from them. I guess my point is, some of the best experiences I have had like you, are when not much is talked about, and money isn't really an issue going in.

Talon
08-21-19, 16:12
The price is not my main concern, but as I have only 4 nights in Medellin after reading multiple reports I decided to stay closer to action.

That's easy doable as I'm not wearing any jewelry even in NY LOL. Need just switch watch to the cheap model.

Thanks for the advice.For years I wore a cheap Casio watch while I traveled and was always surprised and amused by how many people tried to steal it off my wrist. Bring nothing you can't afford to lose! In that past I've had people steal the charger to my electric razor and my tweezers!

Gone023
08-21-19, 16:14
And yes Wolf knows me well, I would have stayed else where, and the price has been cut in half, so if you have ever stayed and liked it, the price is cheaper and still chica friendly. I have no complaints. It's now called Ayenda Hotel Botero, pollo negro is out!Where is a good place to stay that is chica friendly?

Thank you.

Talon
08-21-19, 16:43
So we exchanged whatsapp numbers and she text me saying " I need a phone". Now I still might want to experience this girl so I do not laugh at her like I wanted to. I just tell her "nothing I can do about that from here", then she sends me a photo of an open refrigerator that is completely empty and says "No tengo mercado" , too which I reply "lo siento".Wow! I usually only hear one sob story per girl, but you've gotten multiple from one! Lucky you!

It's always someone stole my phone, my kids need food, my grandma is sick, my rent is due, etc. The brazenness is simply astounding sometimes. One girl, with whom I had five separate sessions with, hit me up for another 200 mil a week after I had left Colombia, claiming she urgently needed it for rent. After pointing out I know for a fact I had given her close to a million already she claimed she gave it all to her mother who spent in on furniture and utilities. If I don't help they'll soon be on the streets! Meanwhile she posts videos of herself showing off new clothes and sitting around her bed smoking weed.

Another girl who I've only talked to through Whatsapp wanted me to wire her 1,200,000 so she could set up her own webcam studio. But not to worry--she'll pay me back as soon as she can! When I asked her if she would loan a stranger they've never met 1,200,000 she wouldn't answer.

The Colombians have a saying, "dar papaya", literally "to give papaya", meaning "don't put yourself in a position where people can easily take advantage of you". Take their advice!

JjBee62
08-21-19, 17:37
2019. Who is going around adding and answering messages from strangers on facebook? Only hookers. Who the hell has only various pictures of themselves dressed in slutty clothing and seems to be proud to write "I do not work" on facebook? Only hookers or someone that is trying to hustle you for money. I am not sure where your doubt lies.

All this shit sounds ridiculous. This is why there is no need to prearrange hookers. If a hooker can not bring you pussy right now what is the use? But of course a trick can make a payment 24/7/365. Why would a total stranger need to hook a hooker up with a foreigner when there are millions of local guys that she can service? She knows where she can go if she needs to get money on her back. But what an angel you are for offering to help her find other foreigners to fleece. Why waste your time with this shit dude? Walk into a casa or strip club, pick a chick you like, go fuck. No fuss, no muss, no sob stories.You need to get out more. Just kidding.

If you're active on Facebook you'll attract a lot of accounts adding or messaging. Some are trolls. Some are hookers. Some are guys who are pissed off at you and are hoping to get you in a compromising situation. I even get a few death threats every year. Those last two may only apply to me.

It's not only hookers. However, you're right. Almost every one is someone hoping to somehow profit from you.

Why waste time on this shit? Because, if you use it right, it's neither shit, nor a waste of time.

Casa or strip club:

Walk in, see what's available. Decide on whether to take one or try another casa or strip club. Repeat until you decide to return to the first casa or strip club just to find out there's nothing there you want. Almost every time you need to adjust your expectations. Once you choose, go to the room. Strip, fuck, wash off, dress, pay (unless you had to prepay) and leave. You spent 50-100 k for 20-30 minutes and spent how long finding the right girl?

Facebook:

Spend a few hours at home finding and adding girls. Then every few days, spend 5 minutes adding more. Maybe spend time finding out others experiences with the girls. A few days before your trip spend 5 minutes introducing yourself to each favorite. Nothing complicated. If you play it right, 30 minutes after settling in you can have someone in your room. Or, if you really play it right, you can have the girl pick you up at the airport and she'll help carry your luggage. You pay 150-200 k and spend from 1 to 5 hours with the girl.

Neither way is the best way. Each depends on what you want. If I just want a simple fuck, I go to a casa. If I want to have a few drinks with a girl before a simple fuck, I go to a strip club.

But if I want someone to come and hang out, talk, have a drink and do more than just fuck, I turn to Facebook. If I want a girl to go see a movie, go to dinner, or clubbing before heading back for a few hours of fun, Facebook. Want to go hiking around Parque Arvi? Go to Santa Fe de Antioquia? Or do any other activity you want company for? Facebook. Or do you have a particular fetish? Would you rather play 20 questions at each casa, trying to find someone willing, or just put a few pics on Facebook showing what you want and choose from the 20 girls who hit you up?

The other option is to go out and meet a regular girl, spend from a few days to a few weeks getting to a physical relationship and then call her for everything, except for the quick and simple fuck at a casa or strip club. You might save money in the long run, but it comes with a new set of problems. How many guys, who only get out 2 weeks a year are willing to invest that much just hoping to get laid?

But, if some girl you've never met starts asking for money, whether on Facebook, Tinder or Colombian Cupid, walk away. There's nothing there for you.

Charm City Dave
08-21-19, 17:42
she text me saying " I need a phone". Now I still might want to experience this girl so I do not laugh at her like I wanted to. I just tell her "nothing I can do about that from here", then she sends me a photo of an open refrigerator that is completely empty and says "No tengo mercado" , too which I reply "lo siento". So I said "I might be able to get ahold of some gringos in Medellin and get you a cita, would she like that? And she says "si". I took my first trip to Thailand in 98, no whatsapp, no Facebook but I exchanged email addresses with a number of girls. Just like clockwork I started receiving urgent appeals for money with some variation of water buffalo pregnant and Grandmother sick (or water buffalo sick and Grandmother pregnant) story.

I have lost count of the number of such appeals I have received in the last 22 years. Last summer in MDE a girl sent me a picture of very sick looking old lady claiming it was her grandma. I googled the picture and found it was a woman in the Ukraine. I busted her with a link to the page she stole the photo from. Last month a Mansion girl I had a mediocre session with wrote me every day about her hungry baby. To her I just replied, 'go to work'. Some of the appeals are simple, some are part of elaborate stories. The only time I ever sent money was to a Rio 4 X4 girl (almost 20 years ago) who had a kid in the hospital in Rio. I knew her very well, was able to verify the kid was very sick and in the hospital and was happy to help. Only time in 22 years. Makes my support rate much less than 1%.

Past that, I always politely decline. I explain that I get those requests all the time and that if I sent money to everyone who asked, I'd be poor. Sometimes, if I see a girl many times on a trip, I tell them before I leave about my policy just to head off the issue. Pretty much everyone I turned down was happy to see me at a later date, if that opportunity provided itself. The girl with the fake grandma picture is a monster in bed and I saw her again this summer 3 times. The whole photo scam thing was not mentioned. So don't let concern about that influence how you respond in the slightest.

VsebudetNY
08-21-19, 17:53
.. how many people tried to steal it off my wrist. Really? Off your wrist? Can you please share details?

Surfer500
08-21-19, 19:57
Past that, I always politely decline. I explain that I get those requests all the time and that if I sent money to everyone who asked, I'd be poor. Sometimes, if I see a girl many times on a trip, I tell them before I leave about my policy just to head off the issue. Pretty much everyone I turned down was happy to see me at a later date, if that opportunity provided itself. The girl with the fake grandma picture is a monster in bed and I saw her again this summer 3 times. The whole photo scam thing was not mentioned. So don't let concern about that influence how you respond in the slightest.The proverbial Request For Money RFM's. Its truly amazing how contorted they can be. A girl in the Philippines once sent me a photo of her in a supposed Hospital bed with an IV hooked up to her and said she had been hospitalized due to an accident, etc. The photo was so staged and hokey looking it was hilarious.

You have to give these women credit for trying, albeit how lame some of the stories are. And the reason they do it is because other guys have taken the bait, so if I were in their shoes I would do it too, as they have nothing to lose making a RFM.

You are dead on about being concerned how a Chica might respond when told no to a RFM. I have one Chica here in Medellin who try's the RFM routine on me from time to time, and when she does I bench her for a while. And after time passes and we hook up again (which I only do because she is so tight and wet) it's like nothing happened just as you mentioned.

Surfer500
08-21-19, 20:07
Thank you. Will start with the Casa's and hopefully will get more tips from PolloNegro on the ground.If you go with PolloNegro whom I have never met, but have seen some of his posts, well you might very well turn into an El Centro street rat! If so, welcome to the club and make sure to go the Intersection of Carrea 52 and Calle 52 around 4 PM in the afternoon as this is "ground zero".

Talon
08-21-19, 20:30
Really? Off your wrist? Can you please share details?You can find tutorials on Youtube nowadays: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq0GO14QiGM.

The watch I wore had a fold over clasp instead of a buckle. The best thieves I've encountered could undo the clasp while distracting me but none of them ever managed to slide it over my oversized hands without me noticing. I stopped wearing it anyway once smartphones took off.

Mojo Bandit
08-21-19, 20:42
2019. Who is going around adding and answering messages from strangers on facebook? Only hookers. Who the hell has only various pictures of themselves dressed in slutty clothing and seems to be proud to write "I do not work" on facebook? Only hookers or someone that is trying to hustle you for money. I am not sure where your doubt lies.

All this shit sounds ridiculous. This is why there is no need to prearrange hookers. If a hooker can not bring you pussy right now what is the use? But of course a trick can make a payment 24/7/365. Why would a total stranger need to hook a hooker up with a foreigner when there are millions of local guys that she can service? She knows where she can go if she needs to get money on her back. But what an angel you are for offering to help her find other foreigners to fleece. Why waste your time with this shit dude? Walk into a casa or strip club, pick a chick you like, go fuck. No fuss, no muss, no sob stories.I wrote that post when I was up in the middle of the night with insomnia, so after a little sleep I did what I should have done before writing the post. I Googled the photos.

This is where the Fake Profile stole the photos from:

https://www.facebook.com/pg/vanessasalasoficial/posts/

Thanks for the feedback though, I expected someone to yell at me over this post. But the part where I said "I did tell her I would help her find a date. " was something meant to be taken as sarcastic, I forget that sarcasm cannot be carried over in text. I assumed that when I said " she has a shitload of contacts 1600 followers, over a hundred likes on her photos, many of which are gringos with those made up names that they use for their monger profiles, and her refrigerator is empty and she can't find her own cita by messaging around all these followers?. " that I made the point she was most likely a fake profile. I just wasn't Hundred percent positive. I hope that any guy who read the post would realize that she was a hustler. The only thing that gave me a sliver of doubt that she was real was that when I offered to find her a date, I thought she would come back with some reason she couldn't and instead she said yes. On the off chance she was real (little head think) I would still want to nail her. My question was meant to ask if she was a hustler and a real facebook page. As another member responded earlier, all these chicas have a sad story to tell to attempt to pry money out of our hands. His chica was a real facebook chica he had citas with and a hustler. I have been trolling LatinAmeric* and ColombianCu**the for years and have heard my share of bullshit stories about why I should send some chica money. My go to answer some of the time is "ever since the company I worked for got busted for importing stolen antiquities, I'm not allowed to wire money". Why don't I just cut off communication with them, most of the time I do, but I also find it somewhat entertaining to fuck with them right back. On the off chance this chica was real (little head think) I would still want to nail her.

So to answer your question: Where did my doubt lie, is he a hooker or a hustler, no, is she a hooker AND a hustler or just a hustler, and of course I now know that she is just a hustler.

I am seriously happy for you that you can get your satisfaction from visiting casas. I have just never liked them, I did them in Mexico years ago and the process isn't for me. I wish it was, it would be a lot less trouble for me. I am envious of the guys who enjoy them.

Mojo Bandit
08-21-19, 20:49
Is here wpp number Medellin or at least Colombian? I follow a girl from Mexico on IG and unless I'm mistaken these are her photos. I hope I am wrong but think this is a fake profile.Is this the girl you follow on IG, she could have an profile in both places. This is an "official" profile that says "fashion model" but does not say where she is based. When I google the photos from the fake facebook profile I found this:

https://www.facebook.com/vanessasalasoficial/

IamLookin
08-21-19, 21:08
Even if you didn't get hits on google with her pics you should take notice that all the pics are glamour shots. I use Facebook exclusively and have very good success. The pics I see from girls I have from FB are with them taken from what is obviously Medellin. Only having glamour shots is a red flag. Asking for money without knowing you is a setup.


I wrote that post when I was up in the middle of the night with insomnia, so after a little sleep I did what I should have done before writing the post. I Googled the photos.

This is where the Fake Profile stole the photos from:

https://www.facebook.com/pg/vanessasalasoficial/posts/

Thanks for the feedback though, I expected someone to yell at me over this post. But the part where I said "I did tell her I would help her find a date. " was something meant to be taken as sarcastic, I forget that sarcasm cannot be carried over in text. I assumed that when I said " she has a shitload of contacts 1600 followers, over a hundred likes on her photos, many of which are gringos with those made up names that they use for their monger profiles, and her refrigerator is empty and she can't find her own cita by messaging around all these followers?. " that I made the point she was most likely a fake profile. I just wasn't Hundred percent positive. I hope that any guy who read the post would realize that she was a hustler. The only thing that gave me a sliver of doubt that she was real was that when I offered to find her a date, I thought she would come back with some reason she couldn't and instead she said yes. On the off chance she was real (little head think) I would still want to nail her. My question was meant to ask if she was a hustler and a real facebook page. As another member responded earlier, all these chicas have a sad story to tell to attempt to pry money out of our hands. His chica was a real facebook chica he had citas with and a hustler. I have been trolling LatinAmeric* and ColombianCu**the for years and have heard my share of bullshit stories about why I should send some chica money. My go to answer some of the time is "ever since the company I worked for got busted for importing stolen antiquities, I'm not allowed to wire money". Why don't I just cut off communication with them, most of the time I do, but I also find it somewhat entertaining to fuck with them right back. On the off chance this chica was real (little head think) I would still want to nail her.

So to answer your question: Where did my doubt lie, is he a hooker or a hustler, no, is she a hooker AND a hustler or just a hustler, and of course I now know that she is just a hustler.

I am seriously happy for you that you can get your satisfaction from visiting casas. I have just never liked them, I did them in Mexico years ago and the process isn't for me. I wish it was, it would be a lot less trouble for me. I am envious of the guys who enjoy them..

Mojo Bandit
08-21-19, 21:55
Even if you didn't get hits on google with her pics you should take notice that all the pics are glamour shots. I use Facebook exclusively and have very good success. The pics I see from girls I have from FB are with them taken from what is obviously Medellin. Only having glamour shots is a red flag. Asking for money without knowing you is a setup.

.Thank you for the pointer, any advice is helpful, I have been trying to build a cache of Facebook Medellin "friends". Most of them are actually from Bello, I am going to send you a PM about some profiles I am looking at and for some general advice. If you don't respond, I understand.

IamLookin
08-21-19, 23:32
Check your email.


Thank you for the pointer, any advice is helpful, I have been trying to build a cache of Facebook Medellin "friends". Most of them are actually from Bello, I am going to send you a PM about some profiles I am looking at and for some general advice. If you don't respond, I understand..

Mongo1
08-22-19, 03:20
When I visit Medellin which is quite often I will rent a apartment for a month and will check into the Mansion for 2 or 3 nights in the beginning. I always have a great time partying there and grab around 10 -12 phone numbers from the Chicas there. Then when I leave to go back to my apartment I have plenty of screened Chica's to draw on. Facebook is a little difficult for me for obvious reasons, kind of difficult getting that 2nd account set up for me any way. Tried a few Chica's on PhotoPrepagos and Mileroticas, not so great, lots of airbrushing or wanting a lot more money that what their ad states. So yeah, I like the Mansion.


I admit I have a love-hate relationship with the Mansion. Yep it is a bit of a crutch and one certainly does not have to stay there to meet great girls. But it has some advantages even for the seasoned MDE visitor.

First (and with an unblemished history of heterosexuality) I've made some great friends from the fellow travelers that have stayed there. Second they do an excellent job of validating cedulas. JjBee62 wisely advises us to avoid 'Any woman who claims to have lost her cedula. There's a good chance she doesn't have one because she's not 18 yet. ' The mansion regularly busts girls with fake cedulas. You can buy one in MDE for a few dollars. Many JB girls use their older sisters or cousins cedula. You can get in just as much trouble banging a 17 yo with a fake cedula as you can a 17 yo with no cedula. And while I pass on 80% of the girls that frequent there, I've found some great ones there, especially girls that are new to the Mansion. New girls are always showing up there. The older crew hates me and labeled me 'Senior Cita' because I'm always putting them off telling them I already have a Cita, often with girls that don't fequent the Mansion. I don't care. I speak passable Spanish. I have 1000 MDE contacts in my Facebook. .

Mongo1
08-22-19, 03:24
I have used Uber in Medellin and found them to be pretty hit and miss on picking you up. On my last trip I would just walk outside of my apartment and have a Taxi within 1 minute. For the negligible price difference they are not worth the hassle.


Today is my break day. After 4 long sessions with 5 girls in 3 days, I'm running out of steam. Yesterday's was the best and worst all rolled into one.

I was scheduled to meet a former webcam model who worked for me at noon. However at 3 am my rheumatoid arthritis decided to join the party. I managed to put it back to bed by 9:30 and got ready for my day.

Next obstacle was Uber. I was trying to get to Oviedo mall to exchange some dollars (why is explained in another post) and drivers kept canceling. Finally a taxi pulled up and I was on my way. After completing the transaction I headed to the Metro. We were meeting at Prado station after she finished her classes.

I arrived 30 minutes early and found a shady spot to sit, wait and respond to some messages. Then some glue sniffer decided I needed to hear about his problems. Most will leave me alone after I wave them off, but this guy kept getting closer. Then he got belligerent, which got him a belligerent response (not recommended). I left him cussing me and went back up the stairs to the metro station.

After a metro employee told me I couldn't sit on the stairs because there were too many people, my mood began to deteriorate. Prado is probably the slowest station on the main trunk. There were very few people coming and going. Another beggar, who insisted on whispering got me riled up again. Eventually I chased him away. Now all I needed was for the girl to cancel.

Mongo1
08-22-19, 03:28
I like TMobile, I get to most most countries south of the boarder and the phone just works. Internet, texting all free and phone calls $.25 per minute.

I don't even have to call them before I leave.


One of us misunderstand what PN is saying. You are roaming so you don't have a problem. Try to put a Colombia SIM in your sprint phone to see if it works.

Mongo1
08-22-19, 03:51
The Colombian people are very proud and whenever I visit I am always respectful of their culture. I many Colombians are wary of the sex tourist due to all the articles that are written about us in their papers. I was in a Cafe there around 3 weeks ago in El Poblado and they had a sign that said "No Sex Tourists". So when you visit have a good time but try to show a little respect.


This type of reaction is inevitable. It's not the guys who overpay the girls who are the biggest threat to a mongering destination. It's the guys who binge on Narcos, thinking it's a realistic representation of Medellin.

There's a regular stream of posts from them, and who knows how many get blocked by the admins, displaying the wrong attitude. They all plan on partying like rock stars, with no regard for the people who live there.

Add in the recent fool on YouTube who was teaching guys to harass and intimidate Colombian women. It's bound to create some anger towards the US tourists. There's other factors, but I don't want to get a political argument started.

Will it affect the typical visitor? Probably not. If you're using discretion, keeping a low profile and showing some respect most people will remain friendly. You might get a few more nasty looks than before, but no real issues.

Big Boss Man
08-22-19, 03:57
This is a fairly new place located in Guayabal. Right now they are giving a 30% discount. I took the nuru massage for 91 K COP.

http://www.bluelifespa.com/Default.aspx

I went with Paulina. On whatsapp they said CBJ but she did BBBJ for 20 K tip.

I think they have a room with a cama so try to get that if you can. Otherwise you are on a small massage table.

There were 4 chicas. I liked two of the four in the lineup.

It's a good spot if you are staying in West Poblado and want to avoid traffic.

I enjoyed the experience but it is not for everybody.

Mongo1
08-22-19, 04:00
That is crazy expensive and the reason that I left Verizon. TMobile is free data and text with $. 25 per min for voice calls. When I'm on WiFi free calls.

Damn I would be paying $300 added to a already expensive Verizon plan. I only pay $70 a month for two phones.


Okay. Letting you know. This is easier, but not much.

As soon as I land, I turn on my Google Pixel 2 XL with my Verizon Unlimited plan. My phone works immediately. I get 0.5 GB daily of high speed data. Drops to 2 G speed after that. Once per day Verizon texts me to let me know how many free days I have left, or to tell me I'm being charged $10 for the day. No need to switch SIMs, no need to activate a SIM, no need to pay 2 different companies.

It's not cheaper. My Verizon plan is $55/ month. I have an $850 phone and after 5 days in Colombia my International plan costs $10/ day.

However, I get unlimited 4 G data, 75 GB per month of 5 G data and 30 GB of mobile hotspot data in the US. Most importantly I get the Verizon network. The T-Mobile / Metro PCS network is fine, as long as you never leave the city. There are too many gaping holes in the network for me..

Mongo1
08-22-19, 04:08
I myself require BBJ from my Chica's and won't use them if this is not on the menu. A classier way of asking for it is "Oral Natural".


Out of hundreds of friend requests I sent out since late 2017 around 1 in 3 have accepted. I use a fake name but my profile is a clear shot of my face and I have a half dozen selfies of me in front of famous landmarks. I got a backlog of dozens of girls I've promised to meet but haven't yet because I can't possible fuck them all and I already got a huge stable of regulars that I can call upon who I know will perform well for a decent price.

Tinder is more of a crapshoot. So many girls just use it to advertise their Instagram pages (at least you can message them like you would with facebook). I've had more success getting matches when I play up being a sugar daddy--talking about how generous I am, how I like to spoil a girl "who can show me a good time", etc. Once I get a match I move the conversation over to Whatsapp as quickly as I can to evade their censors.

CBJ is a mood killer for me so I always include BBJ in my opening offer, like "150 mil. Chupas sin condon". About half agree immediately. The rest demand more money. I've honestly only had a handful outright refuse to budge and insist condom for everything. And some of them eventually caved and agreed after it was clear I had lost interest in them.

Easy way to mitigate being robbed: limit the amount of cash you have on hand and make them come to you!

Mongo1
08-22-19, 04:13
I did the Medellin Walking tour and yes, they do explain what's going on with all the hookers downtown.


It's mind blowing how many Chicas are out there.

When I am down there and I see the English guided tour groups being escorted thru the area, I wonder if any of the people on the tour ever ask, why are there so many women standing around all over the place. Perhaps the tour guide tells them what's up?

Another thing I can't fathom is how many clients some of these Chicas actually get given that there are so many of them. I see some of the prettier Venezuelans going arriba. But some of them I bet are lucky to snag a customer at all.

I also notice a lot of guys similar in age (Venezuelans) sometimes talking with the girls. I have to assume these are their boyfriends or husbands who they are supporting..

Mongo1
08-22-19, 04:36
I had a couple of girls on my last trip that I would go out drinking and dancing Salsa & Merengue, then head back to my apartment for 2-3 hours of real GFE playtime. Total time around 6 hours. I would give them $200,000 plus $20,000 for taxi. One was like this is a lot of money, for all the fun I had it was dirt cheap. I was at the Mansion one night and had the Chica from 1 am until 6 am, I gave her $200,000 she was happy. There really is no set rule for me, lots of times no prices are discussed and I just pay them what I think is fair. Some girls will want to negotiate the price before hand, which in my experience were some of the worst performers.


What do you consider steep? I speculated the Facebook girl mentioned might be available for 150 k, however when she's talking to a new guy she'll probably ask for 200-300 k. That's now been confirmed.

It's pretty common, any time you're dealing with a freelancer, for her to start at a higher price. At the current rate 300 k is less than $100. This girl could get $300 per hour in the US. Some guy who's never been outside the US before might be thrilled to get her for under $100.

The going rate of 150 k is less than $50.200 k is only about $16 more. Is that too much? Most Facebook girls are fine with staying 2 or 3 hours for 150-200 k. Downtown casas charge about 50 k for 30 minutes.

It comes down to knowing your own preferences. I like to spend some time talking, take a shower together or sit in the jacuzzi for awhile, get in lots of foreplay, spend some time trying to make sure she enjoys herself, work through several positions and then relax together for awhile before grabbing a shower to clean up. With some girls I can stretch that out to 3 hours. While I might be able to do that in a casa, it'll cost me 250-300 k.

Mongo1
08-22-19, 04:49
There are ton's of beautiful women in Venezuela which is probably why they have won the Miss Universe contest so many times.

There are quite a few fat Colombian women out there too and just by looking at them it would be difficult for me to tell if they were from Venezuela unless I talked to them for a bit.


Well if you don't have a problem with decent looking beached whales, your going to have a field day and the pick of the litter in Medellin with all the fat Venezuelans. In fact, you could easily line up a couple of tag teams to take "arriba" who will do everything your looking for. Sounds like your going to be cream pieing a lot of ladies on your trip! Your my hero, have a good time and report back on your escapades!

Mongo1
08-22-19, 04:51
Not all AirBnB's are Chica friendly, do your due diligence!


Is it a problem bringing chicas back to vacation apartments in Medellin the way it is in Cartagena? Do I need to be looking for a Chica friendly place or am I safe to just find an Airbnb?

JjBee62
08-22-19, 05:03
That is crazy expensive and the reason that I left Verizon. TMobile is free data and text with $. 25 per min for voice calls. When I'm on WiFi free calls.

Damn I would be paying $300 added to a already expensive Verizon plan. I only pay $70 a month for two phones.You're outside the US 35 days every month? The plan provides 5 days free international roaming per month. After that it's $10 per day ($5 in Mexico and Canada). If you spend the entire month outside the US it would be $230-$260 more.

For someone who travels internationally frequently, there are better options than what I use. For someone who uses lots of data, but seldom leaves the US for long periods, it's a good option.

For someone who travels inside the US frequently, unless they're flying city to city, T-Mobile is almost useless. Driving 75 miles (200-300 if you're in the west) just to get enough of a signal to receive an important email doesn't work for me. Spending 12 hours with zero service doesn't work either. Not to mention having no service at home.

If I go back to spending 3 days every week in Toronto, I'll probably have to make a change, or just use the company phone.

Xpartan
08-22-19, 05:11
OK guys, for the frequent posters here, why'all know I've posted my intention of coming to Colombia on this forum. I originally planned for a full 3 months to be split between Colombia, Sao Paulo, & Rio. The bad news is I will have settle for 9 weeks instead. The good news is the trip is still happening! I plan to stay 3 weeks in Colombia.

I'm currently shopping for flight tickets. I found flights from LAX to Bogota to be almost half as much as flights to Sao Paulo. So its obvious from the money side, that I should fly into Bogota. I then will stay one night in Bogota and then fly to Rio the next day. After spending 6 weeks in Brazil, I will fly back to Bogota and stay in Colombia for 3 weeks. Then from Bogota, I will fly back to the states. I know logistically this is doable. How does flight plan seem to you guys? I will have problems with customs in either Brazil or Colombia? That's the only thing I'm worried about.

I know Colombia require travelers from Brazil a yellow vaccination to enter the country, which I already gotten earlier this year, so I should be good from that.Maybe I'm not reading it correctly, but whilst you've found cheap tickets to Bogota, you'll have to pay for BOG-GIG as well, no? I mean, does the total price difference justify the extra hassle of having a long layover in BOG and paying for a hotel, considering that you're coming back to Colombia for 3 weeks anyway?

Surf Looker
08-22-19, 05:23
Old mansion girls now models, how are new mansion girls.

https://www.instagram.com/julianitavelez940/

https://www.instagram.com/meligaleano21/?hl=en

https://www.facebook.com/pao.zapata2

https://www.instagram.com/mavel03/?hl=en

https://www.facebook.com/vanesita.gutierrez.3?fref=nf


Funny, You just described the Mansion Regulars!

Travis McGee
08-22-19, 11:50
When I visit Medellin which is quite often I will rent a apartment for a month and will check into the Mansion for 2 or 3 nights in the beginning. I always have a great time partying there and grab around 10 -12 phone numbers from the Chicas there. Do you (or anyone else) have any intel on the current lineup at The Mansion? I will be staying there next week. Especially interested in A-level girls and chicas who are down for 3 some.

PolloNegro
08-22-19, 12:22
If you go with PolloNegro whom I have never met, but have seen some of his posts, well you might very well turn into an El Centro street rat! If so, welcome to the club and make sure to go the Intersection of Carrea 52 and Calle 52 around 4 PM in the afternoon as this is "ground zero".I'll take him to the casas and along Veracruz and rudaul, sorry for the misspelling, but we'll be all over centro, I'll take good care of him, I have my list of girls lined up, I'll even share! Pollo negro is out!

NormalAsianKid
08-22-19, 12:49
Old mansion girls now models, how are new mansion girls.

https://www.instagram.com/julianitavelez940/

https://www.instagram.com/meligaleano21/?hl=en

https://www.facebook.com/pao.zapata2

https://www.instagram.com/mavel03/?hl=en

https://www.facebook.com/vanesita.gutierrez.3?fref=nfWhat is the mansion? Is it more expensive than the other clubs there?

JerkMcGerk
08-22-19, 13:51
I will confirm. I made a few tours of El Centro last month.

The lineup on Veracruz and Raudal looked about the same as I remember it from Feb / March of 2018. However, Botero Plaza had a lot of girls hanging around. I'm assuming they were Venezuelan. I'd guess between 30-50 in the early afternoon.

I disagree with your assessment though. There were quite a few fat ones. There were several older ones. There was even one who I'll call "hammerhead", you've probably seen her. But there were also several who looked pretty good to me. I also noticed a few more better looking ones along Veracruz too.I toured Centro yesterday and was pleased with what I saw. That said, I belly laughed reading your post because I saw "hammerhead" yesterday. That made me laugh.

El Mechanico
08-22-19, 14:48
Old mansion girls now models, how are new mansion girls.

https://www.instagram.com/julianitavelez940/

https://www.instagram.com/meligaleano21/?hl=en

https://www.facebook.com/pao.zapata2

https://www.instagram.com/mavel03/?hl=en

https://www.facebook.com/vanesita.gutierrez.3?fref=nfI was referring to the guests, not the chicas!

El Mechanico.

Big Boss Man
08-22-19, 16:45
As part of my quest to add new information to the Board, I decided to book through the La Celestina agency.

I found the agency to be very professional. Communication was astounding through the whatsapp service.

The pictures of the model were accurate except she hasd some small tattoos now. She definitely was 21 or 22. I would say in the looks department she was somewhat above what I usually find on Facebook. But I am not down here enough to really cull a strong list.

The service and time went exactly as requested. She also french-kissed which I was not expecting.

So what is the bad news? I paid 350 k which included BBBJ. Listed price is 240 k. Exchange rates are currently 3445 to 1 so cost was a rounded $100. If the 240 k list price included BBBJ I would use the service more often based on this experience. She reminded me of the young Romanian models you find in the Fkks and it was for all intensive purposes, an equilvalent service.

Who might use this service? If you are seeking anonymity, La Celestina might be for you. The bellhop brought her to the room. I was never exposed publically.

Big Boss Man
08-22-19, 17:20
This place is a tantra place so sex is not usually on the menu. Search my name for earlier reports on tantra if you do not know the rules. The warning is that there is usually upselling involved. I like to go after a sexual encounter or on a day when I want lay off the viagra.

They advertise on Mileroticos. https://co.mileroticos.com/masajes-eroticos/antioquia/medellin/buscar-mandalay/ It is a nice facility in Floresta.

Anyway I found this chica Irene there who is a total hotty. If you bring a condom rules may be broken for a price. Unfortunately I did not bring one.

This ad will go stale quickly but here are some photos while they last.

https://co.mileroticos.com/masajes-eroticos/hola-ven-y-disfruta-de-un-buen-masaje-y-libera-todo-ese-estres-del-dia-a-dia/14231338/

Turgid
08-22-19, 17:33
The Colombian people are very proud and whenever I visit I am always respectful of their culture. I many Colombians are wary of the sex tourist due to all the articles that are written about us in their papers. I was in a Cafe there around 3 weeks ago in El Poblado and they had a sign that said "No Sex Tourists". So when you visit have a good time but try to show a little respect.Just so you know if a young American monger goes to Colombia he will not be viewed as a sex tourist at all. He will be oogled by most of the girls who he may or may not choose to sample. In Colombia the sex tourist is seen as the old single American male. Apparently some influential Colombians (women and men who themselves may or may not be mongers) do not like mature male foreigners banging their nubile princesses.

Chicafan
08-22-19, 18:00
Is this the girl you follow on IG, she could have an profile in both places. This is an "official" profile that says "fashion model" but does not say where she is based. When I google the photos from the fake facebook profile I found this:

https://www.facebook.com/vanessasalasoficial/That's her or some of them are her. I did not click on the profile but even some of the pictures in the photo grid look like a different chica. And don't get the wrong idea about Mexican girls, they are mostly unattractive. If the IG profile appears in my rotation again I will save it and PM it to you. Chicas and scam artists never use logic so if something seems illogical to you or amiss, flee.

IamLookin
08-22-19, 18:13
Out of curiosity I sent a fb friend request. She or they messaged me back. I asked what part of Medellin is she from? Waiting for answer. Going to tell her she is gorgeous to see how the conversation transpires and when the money question comes up


That's her or some of them are her. I did not click on the profile but even some of the pictures in the photo grid look like a different chica. And don't get the wrong idea about Mexican girls, they are mostly unattractive. If the IG profile appears in my rotation again I will save it and PM it to you. Chicas and scam artists never use logic so if something seems illogical to you or amiss, flee..

Linyjo
08-22-19, 18:29
You're outside the US 35 days every month? The plan provides 5 days free international roaming per month. After that it's $10 per day ($5 in Mexico and Canada). If you spend the entire month outside the US it would be $230-$260 more.Verizon has a monthly international plan starting at $70 for the month.

Assuming you own your device (not on payment plan), Verizon unlocks your phone after 60 days on the service. So as long as you own the phone and have been a Verizon customer more than 60 days, your phone is unlocked automatically.

Just go to any local phone service provider in country and buy some minutes / data.

Surfer500
08-22-19, 18:49
There are ton's of beautiful women in Venezuela which is probably why they have won the Miss Universe contest so many times.

There are quite a few fat Colombian women out there too and just by looking at them it would be difficult for me to tell if they were from Venezuela unless I talked to them for a bit.Typically the Venezuelans hang in packs or together, where as the Colombians hang more separately and not so much in groups, especially around the Intersection of Calle 53 & Carrera 53.

So in this area if you see a fat Chica in a group, there's a good chance they will be Venezuelans. And you are correct about there being a lot of Fat Colombians as well, but not so much in the area I mentioned, but alongside the Church, that's the area where the Shemales hang, and just about all of fat ones along that walkway are Colombians.

So for those specifically looking for a fat Colombian or a Transvestie, you know where to go now.

TheCarlAnthony
08-22-19, 19:18
When using facebook:

You can only do this twice but I use Facebook to build up a roster. Currently at over 1000 chicas. And one male who I mentioned in my previous how to build your friends list post. Hes my feeder hahaha. Anyway, right when my plan lands I always post a selfie at the airport letting them all know I'm here. You would be surprised how many chicas come up out of the woodwork. Girls that never liked a photo or responded to a DM, all of sudden send the "Hola como estas" or heart the photo. Especially if it's your story. But here's a trick that worked hahaha. Change your birth date to a day while you are in town! This way you pop up on every chicas wall being announced as it being your birthday. And genuinely party that night as such! It's a simple white lie haha. It's a great conversation starter and usually women love catering to a mans birthday. I had at least 20 birthday inboxes from girls I didn't even know I was friends with and a few more I am "meeting out for a birthday shot" once I get to Medellin. I'm in Cartagena right now having a ball. (pause). But I'm in birthday character and they are eating this crap up. I had a threesome last night and paid 200 k. She basically told her friend it's his birthday. They drank all my bar party alcohol then offered me a 2 for 1. "she quoted since it's your birthday, you take me and my amiga for 1 price". They were both hot enough I would have taken them separately. BTW today's my birthday again if asked hahaha!

Mr Enternational
08-22-19, 19:33
Going to tell her she is gorgeous That is why some poeple pay 150K and others are asked to pay 300K to the same girl. Stop kissing up to hoes! Act like they need you more than you need them.

JumpMan2345
08-22-19, 20:47
Hi,

Visiting Medellin for a quick first visit on September 9-13. I'm looking for some advice on how to set up contacts prior to visit on FB. I have the Tinder thing down but so many seem fake.

I am traveling solo (nervous about this) but I've been wanting to visit for a while. What are the must do's and don't do's? Does anyone have a local tour guide contact for during the day and also at night that they would mind sharing?

I'm booked at Hotel Du Parc Royal. I'm hoping that's a great spot. Any feedback?

Thank you for any advice / help.

Jumpman.

IamLookin
08-22-19, 21:09
Dude, you really should read the original post before jumping in We know it is a scam just want to see how they progress. As far as the girls are concern I never pay over 200 k and that includes extra services. And yes I tell them they are Beautiful. I am going back in a few weeks and have told a few of the girls I am returning. Some of them will stay the night for 200 k and dinner. And yes I tell them they are hermosa bellsima and una princesa


That is why some poeple pay 150K and others are asked to pay 300K to the same girl. Stop kissing up to hoes! Act like they need you more than you need them..

Si.

Surfer500
08-22-19, 21:14
As part of my quest to add new information to the Board, I decided to book through the La Celestina agency.
Who might use this service? If you are seeking anonymity, La Celestina might be for you. The bellhop brought her to the room. I was never exposed publically.I can see someone famous or a well known person definitely needing this service. Perhaps you are one of these people, and if so, it's great you found this service.

KillaCam11
08-22-19, 22:23
Anyone know of any love motels that have a mirror on the ceiling or mirrors all around the room?

DreamCarnarvon
08-22-19, 22:28
Maybe I'm not reading it correctly, but whilst you've found cheap tickets to Bogota, you'll have to pay for BOG-GIG as well, no? I mean, does the total price difference justify the extra hassle of having a long layover in BOG and paying for a hotel, considering that you're coming back to Colombia for 3 weeks anyway?If I was just going to Brazil, then yes it would be easier to just fly directly into Brazil. But since I am going to spend 3 weeks in Colombia also, I would save considerable amount of money (at least to me) to book my round trip ticket from LAX. BOG. The cheapest round trip ticket from LA to Sao Paulo is around $800, while from LA to Bogota is around $400. A round trip ticket from Bogota to Rio is also around $400 and vice versa. So by flying into Colombia first and stay for 3 weeks, then fly to Brazil, I save about $400. Of course, I would have to fly back into Colombia to catch my return flight back to US. But the saving to me is worth it.

PseudoGene
08-22-19, 23:22
What is the mansion? Is it more expensive than the other clubs there?Don't worry about mansion.

PseudoGene
08-22-19, 23:25
Do you (or anyone else) have any intel on the current lineup at The Mansion? I will be staying there next week. Especially interested in A-level girls and chicas who are down for 3 some.That place is a mess now.

Combo
08-22-19, 23:53
Just wondering what you guys have found recently for flight prices from the US to MDE, Cali, etc. I'm planning my Winter trips and I usually find the best fares on Copa Airlines. However this year Copa is way more expensive than American and some of the other carriers.

Wolf662
08-23-19, 01:28
Just wondering what you guys have found recently for flight prices from the US to MDE, Cali, etc. I'm planning my Winter trips and I usually find the best fares on Copa Airlines. However this year Copa is way more expensive than American and some of the other carriers.The cheapest is usually Viva Air (used to be Viva Colombia Air) out of Miami, I flew down last year for around $200.

https://www.vivaair.com/co/en

Next is usually Spirit, $300+- out of Fla.

https://www.spirit.com/

Both are super low cost airlines so barebones but only 3.5 hrs from Miami so bearable.

Turgid
08-23-19, 01:36
Unlike some mongers on this board I have not been lucky to pick up any Venezuelan street walkers; however, I've had a few in the casas, not as many as I did in my previous trip earlier this year but the few I've had this trip have been my best punts. I am wondering whether other mongers have had a similar experience but I have found even with my limited Spanish that the Venezuelans are much more interesting to talk to than Colombianas.
Actually, I am anxiously awaiting for things to start improving in Venezuela so that I can venture there.

Surfer500
08-23-19, 03:13
Just wondering what you guys have found recently for flight prices from the US to MDE, Cali, etc. I'm planning my Winter trips and I usually find the best fares on Copa Airlines. However this year Copa is way more expensive than American and some of the other carriers.Depends where you are flying from which you didn't mention. I used to fly COPA exclusively from LAX to MDE thru Bogota, but started finding cheaper flights on Avianca. Since I am a poor guy who fly's business class, I tried Avianca and their planes are better for the red eye flights with seats that go completely flat versus the COPA bullshit business seats.

Surfer500
08-23-19, 03:50
Unlike some mongers on this board I have not been lucky to pick up any Venezuelan street walkers; however, I've had a few in the casas, not as many as I did in my previous trip earlier this year but the few I've had this trip have been my best punts. I am wondering whether other mongers have had a similar experience but I have found even with my limited Spanish that the Venezuelans are much more interesting to talk to than Colombianas.
Actually, I am anxiously awaiting for things to start improving in Venezuela so that I can venture there.No need to wait for things to start improving in Venezuela to hook up with them which probably won't be for a long time.

As I have stated in numerous posts, if you go to the Intersection of Calle 52 and Carrea 53 in El Centro you will find tons of Venezuelans in and around this location. And the good news is that there are actually some pretty and thin one's out there that I have seen within the past week. I have gotten quotes of between 25 K and 30 K from some of them, and one quoted me 30 K for one pop and 50 K for two pops. And the truth is, they will go for less than that if you want to negotiate.

A friend of mine down here pointed out some of them whom he bare-backs as well. So no need to wait for the overthrow of Maduro to partake in the Venezuelan pussy available right here in Medellin and at bargain basement prices.

If you have attempted to pick some of the Venezuelan SW's thus far and have not had any luck, it may be because your selection criteria is too high, and / or your Spanish skills are holding you back. Another words, if you found one SW you liked and had a rough time speaking with her and couldn't close the deal that would make sense versus if you spoke with five SW's and couldn't close the deal. Generally, a lot of the Venezuelans are better educated than the Colombians, and for me there Spanish is easier to understand. Some of them are very sweet, but a lot them are just to fat for me. My friend is having a field day with them, and you can too. My personal preference is for the Colombians though, but that could change very rapidly.

BlueBudgie
08-23-19, 04:30
Hi,

Visiting Medellin for a quick first visit on September 9-13. I'm looking for some advice on how to set up contacts prior to visit on FB. I have the Tinder thing down but so many seem fake.

I am traveling solo (nervous about this) but I've been wanting to visit for a while. What are the must do's and don't do's? Does anyone have a local tour guide contact for during the day and also at night that they would mind sharing?

I'm booked at Hotel Du Parc Royal. I'm hoping that's a great spot. Any feedback?

Thank you for any advice / help.

Jumpman.Nervous about which part?

Being in Medellin? Learn a little Spanish, don't do anything stupid, you'll be fine.

Fucking hookers? Then why you doing it LOL.

This hobby ain't worth it if it makes you more stressed, the point of this hobby is to de-stress.

Travis McGee
08-23-19, 10:02
That place is a mess now.Care to elaborate? I've got reservations there later this month. What kind of mess are you talking about?

El Mechanico
08-23-19, 14:24
Unlike some mongers on this board I have not been lucky to pick up any Venezuelan street walkers; Spend a weekend in Santa Marta. You will be hard pressed to find a Colombian chica there!

El Mechanico.

MillerTime 55
08-23-19, 14:41
I'm looking for basic casino info especially related to black jack in Medellin.

I hate to make assumptions but here it goes:

US currency isn't accepted, I must convert to pesos before.

Most or all the small neighborhood casinos are slots or non card games.

Working girls are not allowed in the casino.

The casinos south of the mansion are the big 3 or 4 in Medellin, I'm planning to stay in the vicinity for a week or two.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.

JumpMan2345
08-23-19, 14:51
Nervous about which part?

Being in Medellin? Learn a little Spanish, don't do anything stupid, you'll be fine.

Fucking hookers? Then why you doing it LOL.

This hobby ain't worth it if it makes you more stressed, the point of this hobby is to de-stress.The nervous comment is referring to "traveling alone" especially to an area I've never been to. But thank you for your advice. Not exactly what I was looking for LOL.

Balboa
08-23-19, 15:44
Unlike some mongers on this board I have not been lucky to pick up any Venezuelan street walkers; however, I've had a few in the casas, not as many as I did in my previous trip earlier this year but the few I've had this trip have been my best punts. I am wondering whether other mongers have had a similar experience but I have found even with my limited Spanish that the Venezuelans are much more interesting to talk to than Colombianas.
Actually, I am anxiously awaiting for things to start improving in Venezuela so that I can venture there.Just go walk about Plaza Botero, and the walk towards Veracruz. I don't know how you could miss the Venecas, they're all over the place.

I've had very good luck with them. Very easy to bond, having lived once upon a time in Caracas.

My favorita now in Medellin is an 18 year old Venezolana beauty I met a short while back.

Speaking the language obviously is a huge advantage.

Surfer500
08-23-19, 17:20
Just go walk about Plaza Botero, and the walk towards Veracruz. I don't know how you could miss the Venecas, they're all over the place.I can see how someone if they walked around this area and spoke with nobody would not know what the nationality of all the people are, and perhaps this explains why Turgid hasn't noticed them.

BlueBudgie
08-23-19, 17:29
The nervous comment is referring to "traveling alone" especially to an area I've never been to. But thank you for your advice. Not exactly what I was looking for LOL.Weak hands are taken advantage of in this hobby.

Not that their aren't a lot of guys in the hobby that are unsure of themselves, but they get milked hard.

Surfer500
08-23-19, 17:34
I'm looking for basic casino info especially related to black jack in Medellin.

I hate to make assumptions but here it goes:

US currency isn't accepted, I must convert to pesos before.

Most or all the small neighborhood casinos are slots or non card games.

Working girls are not allowed in the casino.

The casinos south of the mansion are the big 3 or 4 in Medellin, I'm planning to stay in the vicinity for a week or two

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.The casinos, at least the small ones I believe just have machines and no table games. I don't know about the casinos on Avenida Poblado you mentioned, you should be able to go to their websites to see what they offer.

Money I believe is all in Pesos, and I am sure the larger Casinos will gladly exchange USD for Pesos but you will get hosed on the exchange rate. Bring ATM cards to withdraw Pesos.

Working girls in the Casinos, I don't think so, at least I have never seen a post about guys getting hookers out of the Casinos here.

However, now that you have brought this up, I am going to check out some of the Casinos on Avenida Poblado, maybe take out is available. Or perhaps some of the waitresses for sure!

Mojo Bandit
08-23-19, 18:36
Spend a weekend in Santa Marta. You will be hard pressed to find a Colombian chica there!

El Mechanico.I know this the Medellíand thread, so tell us how many Hot Venezuelan chicas are in Santa Marta compared to all the ugly ones we hear about in Medellin.

Big Boss Man
08-23-19, 18:42
I can see someone famous or a well known person definitely needing this service. Perhaps you are one of these people, and if so, it's great you found this service.No. Neither rich or famous.

Mostly I am curious. My history on ISG is I always try to add a new place or two whereever I go.

I do know guys concerned with their identity who are upper-management guys from big companies.

I have provided my service. I will now work off a list of six Tinder and Facebook chicas. Hopefully one will be a keeper.

My experience is the chicas I find through services are better looking than ones I find on Facebook. Maybe my luck will be better this year's list. However chicas from services upsell everything so it is definitely more expensive. After 4 experiences in 3 days my average cita is 240 k COP. Probably closer to 247 k if you add in taxi costs. I took a trip from Poblado to Floresta and back during rush hour.

Surfer500
08-23-19, 19:24
No. Neither rich or famous.

Mostly I am curious. My history on ISG is I always try to add a new place or two whereever I go.

I do know guys concerned with their identity who are upper-management guys from big companies.

I have provided my service. I will now work off a list of six Tinder and Facebook chicas. Hopefully one will be a keeper.

My experience is the chicas I find through services are better looking than ones I find on Facebook. Maybe my luck will be better this year's list. However chicas from services upsell everything so it is definitely more expensive. After 4 experiences in 3 days my average cita is 240 k COP. Probably closer to 247 k if you add in taxi costs. I took a trip from Poblado to Flthoresta and back during rush hour.Amazing and entertaining how everybody rolls different here. We are lucky to have so many options here besides social media. I've had some luck with Tinder, but in Asia and Europe. I don't bother with it here though, I am a street rat!

Beobeo
08-23-19, 19:35
No. Neither rich or famous.

Mostly I am curious. My history on ISG is I always try to add a new place or two whereever I go.

I do know guys concerned with their identity who are upper-management guys from big companies.

I have provided my service. I will now work off a list of six Tinder and Facebook chicas. Hopefully one will be a keeper.

My experience is the chicas I find through services are better looking than ones I find on Facebook. Maybe my luck will be better this year's list. However chicas from services upsell everything so it is definitely more expensive. After 4 experiences in 3 days my average cita is 240 k COP. Probably closer to 247 k if you add in taxi costs. I took a trip from Poblado to Floresta and back during rush hour.I don't know man. There are some very hot FB girls. Do you get face pix of the girl with LA Celestina before you book citation? That's my problem with escort agency, face pix is a must.

GreenBud
08-23-19, 19:35
I'm looking for basic casino info especially related to black jack in Medellin.

I hate to make assumptions but here it goes:

US currency isn't accepted, I must convert to pesos before.

Most or all the small neighborhood casinos are slots or non card games.

Working girls are not allowed in the casino.I mainly play at Casino Rio. They have poker. They also have live blackjack. Casino Rio closes at 2 or 3 AM.

I don't like the blackjack set-up in Colombia. The dealer only deals the upcard. They only deal the downcard at the end. The casinos use the auto-shuffling shoe.

They use Colombian pesos in the casinos.

I assume all small neighborhood casinos only have machines. I've only peeked into a couple.

I don't recall ever seeing a working girl at Casino Rio. That place is not a working girl spot. But numerous neighborhood casinos are in the red light district.

MillerTime 55
08-23-19, 21:55
I mainly play at Casino Rio. They have poker. They also have live blackjack. Casino Rio closes at 2 or 3 AM.

I don't like the blackjack set-up in Colombia. The dealer only deals the upcard. They only deal the downcard at the end. The casinos use the auto-shuffling shoe.

They use Colombian pesos in the casinos.

I assume all small neighborhood casinos only have machines. I've only peeked into a couple.

I don't recall ever seeing a working girl at Casino Rio. That place is not a working girl spot. But numerous neighborhood casinos are in the red light district.Thanks Greenbud for the info on Casino Rio.

I lived (worked) in Buenos Aires 10 year ago and they also also deal 1 up card.

If I remember correctly most of the players down there played not to take a bust card. Seemed like no one would challenge the dealer unless it was obvious hit.

MillerTime 55
08-23-19, 22:09
The casinos, at least the small ones I believe just have machines and no table games. I don't know about the casinos on Avenida Poblado you mentioned, you should be able to go to their websites to see what they offer.

Money I believe is all in Pesos, and I am sure the larger Casinos will gladly exchange USD for Pesos but you will get hosed on the exchange rate. Bring ATM cards to withdraw Pesos.

Working girls in the Casinos, I don't think so, at least I have never seen a post about guys getting hookers out of the Casinos here.

However, now that you have brought this up, I am going to check out some of the Casinos on Avenida Poblado, maybe take out is available. Or perhaps some of the waitresses for sure!Thanks Surfer500, If you do check out the casinos on Ave Poblado kindly let me / the board your findings.

Big Boss Man
08-23-19, 23:20
I don't know man. There are some very hot FB girls. Do you get face pix of the girl with LA Celestina before you book citation? That's my problem with escort agency, face pix is a must.I agree that there are very hot Facebook chicas but in my experience I have not been able to get a meeting with them as of yet. Many chicas that I met last year were using photos two or three years out of date.

This year I am matched on Tinder with chicas in the 25 or 30 year range that have children. I am a fat guy in my late 60's so this could be making a difference. I am not the guy who is going to take them out salsa dancing and then still pay them in the morning. Some of the young Facebooks chicas have friended me. Of those that have friended me I have not pursued yet.

Agency girls all have faces hidden and tattoos photoshopped out.

Lou32
08-23-19, 23:24
Care to elaborate? I've got reservations there later this month. What kind of mess are you talking about?They are doing a bunch of renovating so maybe it literally is a mess.

Combo
08-24-19, 00:40
The cheapest is usually Viva Air (used to be Viva Colombia Air) out of Miami, I flew down last year for around $200.

https://www.vivaair.com/co/en

Next is usually Spirit, $300+- out of Fla.

https://www.spirit.com/

Both are super low cost airlines so barebones but only 3.5 hrs from Miami so bearable.Thanks. I'm flying from Chicago and I generally avoid Spirit and the likes. I've heard too many stories of missed connecting flights and cancelled flights. Must be nice to live in Miami and get direct flights to Colombia, Brasil, etc!

I've always liked Copa and they usually have good prices if you book early, but this year, they are more expensive than just about everyone.

Knowledge
08-24-19, 01:45
I've been in those casinos. My WG-dar never went off. All play is in Colombian pesos. Yes there are table games. Roulette, blackjack, I can't remember if there is poker.


Thanks Surfer500, If you do check out the casinos on Ave Poblado kindly let me / the board your findings.

Turgid
08-24-19, 02:00
Just go walk about Plaza Botero, and the walk towards Veracruz. I don't know how you could miss the Venecas, they're all over the place.

I've had very good luck with them. Very easy to bond, having lived once upon a time in Caracas.

My favorita now in Medellin is an 18 year old Venezolana beauty I met a short while back.

Speaking the language obviously is a huge advantage.When I'm on the prowl on the streets for poontang I have no concern for nationality. I choose what interests me, same in casas. I have sessioned a few Venezuelans in casas but not on the streets. If they are ugly I will take no interest and be unconcerned whether they are Venies or not. For me its looks first; the Venies I have sessioned so far have been top notch in looks and service. A future visit to Caracas is definitely in the cards.

Nounce
08-24-19, 06:09
Met with Pollo Negro for the first time this morning around 8 AM, we stationed at the museum corner of the intersection of Carrera 52 and Calle 52, something I would not do by myself. PN noticed that police were whistling girls away. Instead of hookers, now it is only him and me at the corner.

We met again in the evening, walked around the block, he was hugging girls left and right, and I got to shake a few hands. It was an interesting experience. He scored two (morning and evening) and I scored none, that is what fluent Spanish and a nice personality can do. Both girls have pretty face and nice body. I like both girls, especially the second one who is a spinner. PN told me to take her but I did not. It is an interesting day.

JjBee62
08-24-19, 06:57
Hi,

Visiting Medellin for a quick first visit on September 9-13. I'm looking for some advice on how to set up contacts prior to visit on FB. I have the Tinder thing down but so many seem fake.

I am traveling solo (nervous about this) but I've been wanting to visit for a while. What are the must do's and don't do's? Does anyone have a local tour guide contact for during the day and also at night that they would mind sharing?

I'm booked at Hotel Du Parc Royal. I'm hoping that's a great spot. Any feedback?

Thank you for any advice / help.

Jumpman.I just wrote a detailed post on how to setup a list of Facebook girls. Go back at least 12 pages and start reading posts. You'll find it.

There's several thousand posts here that will help soothe your nerves, plus a few thousand that will terrify you. They can't be any help to you if you don't read them.

JjBee62
08-24-19, 07:11
I can see how someone if they walked around this area and spoke with nobody would not know what the nationality of all the people are, and perhaps this explains why Turgid hasn't noticed them.Maybe it's just me, but the Venezuelans stand out. The guys who spend all their time walking the streets in El Centro probably pick up on this easier. The Colombian girls are a natural part of the environment. They blend in.

The Venezuelans don't blend. They're out of place, they don't move smoothly through the plaza. They walk faster and talk louder. At least to me, they seem out of place.

JjBee62
08-24-19, 07:16
The casinos, at least the small ones I believe just have machines and no table games. I don't know about the casinos on Avenida Poblado you mentioned, you should be able to go to their websites to see what they offer.

Money I believe is all in Pesos, and I am sure the larger Casinos will gladly exchange USD for Pesos but you will get hosed on the exchange rate. Bring ATM cards to withdraw Pesos.

Working girls in the Casinos, I don't think so, at least I have never seen a post about guys getting hookers out of the Casinos here.

However, now that you have brought this up, I am going to check out some of the Casinos on Avenida Poblado, maybe take out is available. Or perhaps some of the waitresses for sure!The El Centro casinos you have to fight your way through the working girls to get inside.

I've talked to a few people who frequent some of the Poblado casinos. At least some have poker and blackjack. One, by the San Diego mall used to have a Sunday evening poker tournament.

JjBee62
08-24-19, 07:23
Thanks. I'm flying from Chicago and I generally avoid Spirit and the likes. I've heard too many stories of missed connecting flights and cancelled flights. Must be nice to live in Miami and get direct flights to Colombia, Brasil, etc!

I've always liked Copa and they usually have good prices if you book early, but this year, they are more expensive than just about everyone.I was happy with AeroMexico out of Chicago to Medellin, but it comes with a 24 hour layover in Mexico City going down and 4 hours coming back. That's a pain unless you want to explore Mexico City. It's also a 1 am departure from MDE.

Surfer500
08-24-19, 13:10
Met with Pollo Negro for the first time this morning around 8 AM, we stationed at the museum corner of the intersection of Carrera 52 and Calle 52, something I would not do by myself. PN noticed that police were whistling girls away. Instead of hookers, now it is only him and me at the corner.Can you tell us more about the police whistling girls away. At 8 AM in the mornings there are not a lot of girls out, a few, but more so people walking to work as this is a main passageway to many of the business in the area.

So this was a police round up of a few girls standing around at 8 AM in the morning? Sounds very peculiar indeed unless there was some type of commotion.

You say you wouldn't go to this intersection by yourself. You are aware that the location you described besides being ground zero for the Venies is also right in the middle of the tourist area for Botero Plaza, the Museum, and the Church. Did you notice that there is a very popular yogurt / ice cream stand, a Tazo coffee shop, souvenir shops all no more than 20 meters away from this location. So I don't know what scared you about this exact location during the day, crowds of tourists will be in that area eating emapanadas besides all the Vennies before lunchtime.

Perhaps you should have PN take you around the area, alongside the Church, and the backside around 10 PM at night, things will be very different and something you might not want to do by yourself.

JumpMan2345
08-24-19, 14:08
Weak hands are taken advantage of in this hobby.

Not that their aren't a lot of guys in the hobby that are unsure of themselves, but they get milked hard.First of all it's "there not their". Secondly you are missing the point of being nervous so no need to continue down that road, your advice is way off track. You truly shouldn't be responding to this thread anymore.

Knowledge
08-24-19, 14:34
You seem to be the ultimate wing man.


Met with Pollo Negro for the first time this morning around 8 AM, we stationed at the museum corner of the intersection of Carrera 52 and Calle 52, something I would not do by myself. PN noticed that police were whistling girls away. Instead of hookers, now it is only him and me at the corner.

We met again in the evening, walked around the block, he was hugging girls left and right, and I got to shake a few hands. It was an interesting experience. He scored two (morning and evening) and I scored none, that is what fluent Spanish and a nice personality can do. Both girls have pretty face and nice body. I like both girls, especially the second one who is a spinner. PN told me to take her but I did not. It is an interesting day.

Surfer500
08-24-19, 17:50
Maybe it's just me, but the Venezuelans stand out. The guys who spend all their time walking the streets in El Centro probably pick up on this easier. The Colombian girls are a natural part of the environment. They blend in.

The Venezuelans don't blend. They're out of place, they don't move smoothly through the plaza. They walk faster and talk louder. At least to me, they seem out of place.Well at least you noticed them, however there are others who couldn't identify them.

Surfer500
08-24-19, 21:58
When I'm on the prowl on the streets for poontang I have no concern for nationality. I choose what interests me, same in casas. I have sessioned a few Venezuelans in casas but not on the streets. If they are ugly I will take no interest and be unconcerned whether they are Venies or not. For me its looks first; the Venies I have sessioned so far have been top notch in looks and service. A future visit to Caracas is definitely in the cards.You may not get to visit Caracas for a very long time given the political situation there, so why not go to "Little Caracas" here in Medellin?

Perhaps this sounds a little odd, but like in most major cities in the US there are Chinatowns, Koreatowns, and Little Italy's that exist, so I am going to take the liberty of identifying "Little Caracas" here in Medellin.

Yesterday while in El Centro I was talking with one of my Colombian regulars about all the Venezuelans before doing the deed in the room. She told me that up until approximately a month ago, there had been several fights between the Venezuelans and the Colombians who were beating the Venezuelans up on the backside of the Church with all the bars, etc. According to her, the Venezuelans have been undercutting the Colombians since they started to arrive just over a year ago. As an example, the Venezuelans will go with guys for say 20 K, when the Colombians were getting say 30 K before the Venezuelans showed up. These are not hard price points, but illustrate what has been going on since their arrival.

So according to my regular, approximately a month ago the majority of the Venezuelans moved over to the Intersection of Carrea 52 and Calle 52 adjacent to Botero Plaza and the Museum, and since then there has been a major reduction in the fighting etc. I was a bit perplexed by this wanting to know who made this happen etc. And asked if the Police had been involved somehow in establishing the area for the Venezuelans and she said no, that the Police only had been breaking up the fights, and nothing more. She also told me that there are still a few Venezuelans on the backside of the Church with the bars, but not many left.

This confirms what I have witnessed in this area over the last month and makes sense. I guess the Venezuelans after getting beat up enough have decided to stay away from the Colombians. And " Little Caracas" exists right in the middle of the tourist area so is much safer for them versus the backside of the Church. However this doesn't address the undercutting going on, which was the source of the problem to begin with. All of the Colombian men, and some of us on this board, know where to find the Venezuelans and it's a buyers market for sure.

I have also noticed a lot more prettier and slim Venezuelans that have shown up in "Little Caracas" in the last few weeks. Maybe word has gotten back to Venezuela that Medellin is a safer / better place to go now than some of the other cities in Colombia, or maybe Maduro is just letting some of the prettier ones out of his country!

So why would someone wait to travel at some indefinite date in the future to Venezuela, when they could partake in "Little Caracas" here in Medellin!

Golfinho
08-24-19, 22:23
Money I believe is all in Pesos, and I am sure the larger Casinos will gladly exchange USD for Pesos but you will get hosed on the exchange rate. Bring ATM cards to withdraw pesos!You must be speculating. I've gotten good rates at casinos in this town. Of course, they don't discourage changing your cash as the House expects to end up with it anyway. A general rule of thumb anywhere in the world is to change dollars at a casino.

Nounce
08-24-19, 22:35
Can you tell us more about the police whistling girls away.
So this was a police round up of a few girls standing around at 8 AM in the morning? Sounds very peculiar indeed unless there was some type of commotion.
It seems the police don't want the girl to stay in one place.



You say you wouldn't go to this intersection by yourself. I mean I won't stand among the chicas there for a whole hour. I have no problem walking around the area but standing among them is something different for me.

PolloNegro
08-24-19, 23:14
You seem to be the ultimate wing man.And got a chance to see a lay of the land. First and foremost, I must give Wolf all the credit, I'm just following in his footsteps. He taught me about being kind and keeping a pocket full of $2 mil bills, it will definitely go a long ways. The girls were pretty and out everywhere! Pollo negro is out!

Anukris
08-24-19, 23:22
Hola Senores!

First of all, thank you all for the reports you published, the material you shared. I found everything I needed here. OK, where do I start. Arrived Medellin at 2 pm on the first day, solo traveler. Did all my research but was really scared to step outside of the airport, well that's how it started. But however took a taxi paid 75 mil I guess and headed to San Peters in Laureles. The minute I reached the apartment I already started loving the weather in Medellin. It's gentle breeze not hot not cold, just perfect for me.

On the first day called in a busty photoprepago girl in her 30's I guess. She was very good. Paid like 130 k including taxi for an hour. The best thing about Colombian girls I like is they are very sensual and accommodating. Every other girl I spent time with, I felt the same. I didn't feel the same in other countries I mongered like Thailand, Singapore, Germany, India etc.

Didn't do much other than that on the first day. Second day I took a Uber to El Centro, visited the new life casa. Except couple of girls nothing great about this place, I have seen better. But took a little spinner in her early 20's, Laura. She was clean, cute, smelled good, fucked good etc. , etc. , that's a good start to the day. When I was coming out found another beautiful short girl named Andrea. This girl is super hot GFE material. Had good fun with her for about an hour. It was really inexpensive in my opinion for the quality you get in Medellin. Then came out walked around for sometime, found the Aiffe and other casas on careers 45, there were like two more here. Had lunch at the restaurant at the corner of the street where Newlife is. Luckily the guy over there spoke good English.

After lunch headed to energy masaje which is quite famous for the quality of the girls and service. Took a Uber again. I found a gorgeous Colombian here. Long hair, brown eyes and perfect tits. And service was just too good. Message followed by BJ, sex and we took shower together. The best part here is their service. It's already 7 pm, I am not late night kind of a guy, headed back the apartment to meet a gringo amigo I met at the apartment. We had couple of beers together. LA70 is a party place, there are so many restaurants and bars on LA70. It's a good place to hangout with a girl. I will write more when I find some more time. I went to Guatape with a girl who I met on tinder. So more to come on that.

Chao.

Surfer500
08-24-19, 23:40
You seem to be the ultimate wing man.Wing child.

Surfer500
08-24-19, 23:46
It seems the police don't want the girl to stay in one place.

I mean I won't stand among the chicas there for a whole hour. I have no problem walking around the area but standing among them is something different for me.It sounded like you were very frightened being in El Centro in your post, like you were going to shit in your pants.

I wasn't sure that was the case though, thanks for clearing things up.

Lowkey1
08-25-19, 00:03
I have been to the mansion multiple times and I have a trip all booked and they just called and said I got bumped due to construction. So they said I can go to M2, which I really don't want to do or they will refund my money. Problem is, I already spent a lot of money booking the flight and still want to go. Is there a hotel in Parque LLeras that is nice, safe, clean, breakfast and won't give me issues with bringing a girl back?

Fun Luvr
08-25-19, 00:31
So I don't know what scared you about this exact location during the day, crowds of tourists will be in that area eating emapanadas besides all the Vennies before lunchtime.The tourists will be eating the Vennies! I know what you mean, it's just the wording that is funny.

DreamCarnarvon
08-25-19, 02:23
No need to wait for things to start improving in Venezuela to hook up with them which probably won't be for a long time.

As I have stated in numerous posts, if you go to the Intersection of Calle 52 and Carrea 53 in El Centro you will find tons of Venezuelans in and around this location. And the good news is that there are actually some pretty and thin one's out there that I have seen within the past week. I have gotten quotes of between 25 K and 30 K from some of them, and one quoted me 30 K for one pop and 50 K for two pops. And the truth is, they will go for less than that if you want to negotiate.

A friend of mine down here pointed out some of them whom he bare-backs as well. So no need to wait for the overthrow of Maduro to partake in the Venezuelan pussy available right here in Medellin and at bargain basement prices.Man,

Choices choices choices. I've only got 3 weeks in Colombia, really wish I had more now. Oh well. I will be flying into Bogota so the first thing I will do is head to SF to checkout the street talent. I will probably stay 3 night and pull girls to bring back to my place. If the street talents are decent and I get good service I will stay a couple more nights. If not, I will head to Cucuta. Same plan in Cucuta as in Bogota. May stay a week or more in Cucuta if I like it. When its time to leave Cucuta, I may have to checkout Medellin, especially if Bogota turns out bad.

MedellinGringo
08-25-19, 05:48
I used to go to the Mansion from time to time years ago. It had been a long time since I was there last but I went to the 4th of July party with a friend and was surprised at how much the scene had changed or maybe it's that I have changed.

When I first went to the Mansion years ago there were mostly 6's and 7's with a few 8's. Now there are mostly 5's and 6's and I only saw one 7 in the bunch. There are more women overall but the quality is down.

I talked to an old timer (that seemed to be a regular) while I was there and he told me that prices had gone up to 200 mill to 250 mill for short time. I was stunned. Quality down and prices were up that sucks.

But I found out later prices were the same it was just that the quality was down. Now I'm not going to argue that some guys do get charged at the higher rate but I was qouted 150 mill short time and 300 for TLN same as when I was there 5 years ago.

Didn't pull the same night I was there but got the whatsapp of a chick called Dulce and she called me the next day and asked if she could stop by. I asked her how much and she said 200 mill and I said "no" . She was the only chick I met at the Mansion that I liked but she called me I didn't call her. Jajaja.

She quickly dropped the price down to 150 mill and I said OK.

Couple of pics of the chick and this is about as good as it gets based on my last time at the mansion.

GeneHickman
08-25-19, 06:18
I used to go to the Mansion from time to time years ago. It had been a long time since I was there last but I went to the 4th of July party with a friend and was surprised at how much the scene had changed or maybe it's that I have changed.

When I first went to the Mansion years ago there were mostly 6's and 7's with a few 8's. Now there are mostly 5's and 6's and I only saw one 7 in the bunch. There are more women overall but the quality is down.

I talked to an old timer (that seemed to be a regular) while I was there and he told me that prices had gone up to 200 mill to 250 mill for short time. I was stunned. Quality down and prices were up that sucks.

But I found out later prices were the same it was just that the quality was down. Now I'm not going to argue that some guys do get charged at the higher rate but I was qouted 150 mill short time and 300 for TLN same as when I was there 5 years ago.

Didn't pull the same night I was there but got the whatsapp of a chick called Dulce and she called me the next day and asked if she could stop by. I asked her how much and she said 200 mill and I said "no" . She was the only chick I met at the Mansion that I liked but she called me I didn't call her. Jajaja.

She quickly dropped the price down to 150 mill and I said OK.

Couple of pics of the chick and this is about as good as it gets based on my last time at the mansion.All of which begs the question where have the 7's 8's and 9's gone to now. Are they on social media, have regulars or is the prepago ranks shrinking in medellin? I didn't find them at the casas either.

Nounce
08-25-19, 06:26
You seem to be the ultimate wing man.That is because PN is an interesting guy. It's not the first day I am here, and I don't have to have sex multiple times a day. There girls are still there.

Mojo Bandit
08-25-19, 06:49
Didn't pull the same night I was there but got the whatsapp of a chick called Dulce and she called me the next day and asked if she could stop by. I asked her how much and she said 200 mill and I said "no" . She was the only chick I met at the Mansion that I liked but she called me I didn't call her. Jajaja.

She quickly dropped the price down to 150 mill and I said OK.

Couple of pics of the chick and this is about as good as it gets based on my last time at the mansion.How was the service from this girl?

ANewTravler
08-25-19, 09:57
It was an interesting experience. He scored two (morning and evening) and I scored none, that is what fluent Spanish and a nice personality can do. Both girls have pretty face and nice body. I like both girls, especially the second one who is a spinner. PN told me to take her but I did not. It is an interesting day.Time to learn some basic Spanish before one goes to Colombia.

Travis McGee
08-25-19, 11:37
I have been to the mansion multiple times and I have a trip all booked and they just called and said I got bumped due to construction. So they said I can go to M2, which I really don't want to do or they will refund my money. Problem is, I already spent a lot of money booking the flight and still want to go. Is there a hotel in Parque LLeras that is nice, safe, clean, breakfast and won't give me issues with bringing a girl back?I am booked there this coming Thursday through Monday. When were your reservations? I haven't been notified about having to change or cancel my booking. Was it your impression that all of the M1 was closed, or just certain rooms?

Balboa
08-25-19, 11:53
When I'm on the prowl on the streets for poontang I have no concern for nationality. I choose what interests me, same in casas. I have sessioned a few Venezuelans in casas but not on the streets. If they are ugly I will take no interest and be unconcerned whether they are Venies or not. For me its looks first; the Venies I have sessioned so far have been top notch in looks and service. A future visit to Caracas is definitely in the cards.Great strategy, LOL.

Isn't that everyone's game plan?

Surfer500
08-25-19, 13:36
Great strategy, LOL.

Isn't that everyone's game plan?Not everyone's strategy, at least for me. If a Chica doesn't have at least one of the following attributes I don't go with them, which include in no particular order, being grossly overweight, a deaf and / or deaf mute, or mute, a sacalero (glue sniffer), pregnant, one armed or legged, and mud ugly. I may have missed an attribute here, but these are my selection criteria when prowling for poontang. If they have they don't have at least one of these attributes I will take no interest, and I do not discriminate based on nationality.

Surfer500
08-25-19, 16:04
You must be speculating. I've gotten good rates at casinos in this town. Of course, they don't discourage changing your cash as the House expects to end up with it anyway. A general rule of thumb anywhere in the world is to change dollars at a casino.I'm not a gambler, except with the Chicas of course, but are you saying that "generally" you get a better exchange rate for USD from a Casino, versus from an ATM.

I know in some Countries, I believe in the Philippines and Thailand you can get a better exchange rate with $ 100 USD notes at some exchange places than ATM's, but these were not Casinos.

If the exchange rates for USD at the Casinos in Medellin are better than ATM's here, I'm going to start exchanging my money at the Casinos, as much as I can, without playing before I get kicked out!