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Mr Enternational
12-12-19, 07:32
Medellin lacks meeting places like Habanos in PanamaIsn't that what Gusto's is?


or gogo bars in SE Asia. Weird that it's legal here but there are no venues to meet regular girls not working for casas or strip clubs.Scratching my head. You want a place like a gogo bar, but you don't want it to be a strip club? But gogo bars and strip clubs are basically the same damn thing! Only difference is that you can fuck the chicks there at the strip clubs, whereas a gogo bar you have to pay to take them out. Other than that, they are exactly the same. Dudes buying drinks. Dudes buying drinks for chicks. Chicks dancing on a stage. Gogo bar is just what strip clubs in Asia are called.

TopoChico571
12-12-19, 07:50
Yes PN sad news about Hotel Botero not allowing the vennies anymore but as you point out there are other places to pound away in and 10 mil for each girl for hotel use won't break the bank.

I bet you have much to report on. Keep them happy for me until my return.

The Tall Man.So what is the go-to hotel now that Ayenda Botero is bust? And what is a Vennie? Venezuelan? Thank you.

SadButTrue82
12-12-19, 07:58
Photo Prepagos is a tool I really never thought of using. I wonder if we could get some input from other men who have used it?

We have plenty of posts concerning FB, and Tinder, and Colombia Cupid, but not much on Photo Prepagos.

Thanks in advance.I've used them before, several times. They are a fine service but I also think it depends on the time of mongerer you are. For me being told this much for an HR is a buzz kill. So whether its a fb girl or a regular non pro I meet in the streets I prefer a more natural and organic time together. Though admittedly knowing that girl a, is close to my airbnb and will be open to doing this or that does make it easy when you're just trying to get one off. I've found some decent talent off sites like that but again if you're looking for a more natural GFE type of vibe you may not find it there, though again your mileage may vary.

I don't use Tinder as I've heard too many horror stories though I've also heard many good things.

SJobs
12-12-19, 08:56
To each their own. That said, this sounds like a lot of rationalization to me.

Lets start with the assumption that paying $200 US makes this hassle free. Or guarantees you better service.

Umh. Don't know what to tell you. Ain't true and just read the experiences of some who
have posted about their gustos experiences contrasted with their online hookups.

Minimal time investment? How about the time to get ready go to Gustos and pick out your
selection, settle on a rate and get her back to your place.
Now if you like the process of doing that, then fine, but time efficient? Nothing beats a casa
for that.

What about ordering up a chica via PP or Fb or whatever internet tool you use, that really can't
be beat efficiency wise, you just fuck them when they arrive while waiting in the comfort if your room. Lol

But like everyone seems to agree, each person seems to have their preferred way and there is
no point to the discussion as everyone will think they do it best.

Just go with what works for you. Medellin is great cuz it is like a buffet.Thanks for taking the time to analyze through my mid-night scramble. Sorry if some of my arguments confused you. The whole premise of my argument is base on clubbing in places such as Gusto. In Gusto, it is hassle free (relatively) and time efficient to find the right girl if I'm willing to pay 200 dollars. I'm perfectly aware of other day-time options such as casas and massage parlors, and I had about 10 FB girls on my weekly rotation before I left Medellin a few weeks ago (I typically pay fb girls 150-300 k pesos).

In terms of service, I only had one casa girl refused BBBJ and DFK, and I easily been with 50+ girls in Medellin. I can either attribute my success to my irresistible charm or the fact that I'm willing to pay more. I wish it is the former but in my heart I knew it is the latter.

SJobs
12-12-19, 09:33
I totally agree. I tried that shit one time. It was my youngest brother's first time to Thailand so I said we will ball out. I had some friends there too. We were in the club and I bought a few $100 bottles of liquor. That shit was gone in about 5 seconds. Only experience I got from it was walking out of there $500 poorer. Never again. My place is playing the background; low key, on the creep, with maybe a club soda or diet coke in my hand. Then when the time is right, I strike. I don't have a need to be seen or to impress anyone. Not my idea of a good time.I don't think it is about been seen by other people. For me, it is more about dancing, partying and having a good time with like minded people. In a way, it is almost like celebrating the common happiness of humanity. Anyways, it is a relatively expensive activity, but some people can afford it and like to party. My week day nights in Medellin are primarily filled with fb girls; I normally work and read all night, and I will typically arrange 2-4 fb girls per night, they will come between 8 pm to 2 am. It is somewhat an art to align the schedule correctly. Thursday, Friday and Saturday are party nights for me. Let the party people be fools and paid the 150-200 dollar price tag in Gusto.

Surfer500
12-12-19, 12:49
I am a little late responding to this post but I missed it until now. First I want to thank you for taking the time to mark the places on this image, that is a huge help. My first question is about Raudal. You say it is hit or miss, is it generally worth checking at a certain time of day? Why do you call it the Raudal block? I noticed a couple of businesses have Raudal in their names but Google Maps has only the street numbers on the streets.The Raudal area is like two blocks away from the Museum and I am sure you have located it. Very similar to the area behind the Church with it's row of bars and upstairs short time Hotels and in my opinion the same and no different than the area behind the Church. However, see Wolf's post about his observations in this area, as he has a little different "take" on this area.

Wolf662
12-12-19, 16:40
I am a little late responding to this post but I missed it until now. First I want to thank you for taking the time to mark the places on this image, that is a huge help. My first question is about Raudal. You say it is hit or miss, is it generally worth checking at a certain time of day? Why do you call it the Raudal block? I noticed a couple of businesses have Raudal in their names but Google Maps has only the street numbers on the streets.I only go in the day since I don't fancy walking around Centro at night too much and since there are less women in that block the chances of the hot ones not being there or busy is higher. But I have found hotter ones there then the Vera Cruz strip but only sometimes. Basically the girls are on the NW & NE corners of Carr 54 and Ave De Greiff (calle 53) and about half way down the block to the north on both sides of Carr 54. I call it the Raudal block since most the girls are on the corner below the "Raudal and. 3" sign on the building. And since it's only 2 blocks from Vera Cruz I always walk thru both.

SlapShot10
12-12-19, 20:48
The Raudal area is like two blocks away from the Museum and I am sure you have located it. Very similar to the area behind the Church with it's row of bars and upstairs short time Hotels and in my opinion the same and no different than the area behind the Church. However, see Wolf's post about his observations in this area, as he has a little different "take" on this area."Behind the church" - is this what appears on Google Maps as Calle 51 A? Or, is it what is shown as Avenida Cundimarca? The latter, I have experienced, but only window shopping at what some members have indicated is not prime time. I have cruised the area, but feel like I am missing what others find intriguing. I also don't think I have walked the extra block to Raudal.

I guess, in the end, New Life is always a 10 minute walk away.

Wolf662
12-12-19, 21:02
The Raudal area is like two blocks away from the Museum and I am sure you have located it. Very similar to the area behind the Church with it's row of bars and upstairs short time Hotels and in my opinion the same and no different than the area behind the Church. However, see Wolf's post about his observations in this area, as he has a little different "take" on this area.Only differences I've seen is Vera Cruz will have up to 50 chicks, check ID there, Raudal will have a more mature crowd of 10-15 with more likely to see breast and butt jobs if you like them enhanced. But sometimes neither area will have hotties, luck of the draw.

Wolf662
12-12-19, 21:11
"Behind the church" - is this what appears on Google Maps as Calle 51 A? Or, is it what is shown as Avenida Cundimarca? The latter, I have experienced, but only window shopping at what some members have indicated is not prime time. I have cruised the area, but feel like I am missing what others find intriguing. I also don't think I have walked the extra block to Raudal.

I guess, in the end, New Life is always a 10 minute walk away.Avenida Cundimarca aka Carr 53 between Calle 51 and Calle 52 is the main Vera Cruz strip with girls both sides of the road and in the bars, other around the corners both sides of the church, the trannies seem to hang out in front to the left of the church, the ones you really need to card seem to hang on the SE corner of Carr 53 and Calle 52, more women at the west edge of plaza Botero.

Wolf662
12-12-19, 22:13
I have cruised the area, but feel like I am missing what others find intriguing. I also don't think I have walked the extra block to Raudal.Also I think I see something I like about 1 trip in 4, so it helps to make multiple laps per day which is why I like staying 2 blocks from there.

JjBee62
12-12-19, 22:14
"Behind the church" - is this what appears on Google Maps as Calle 51 A? Or, is it what is shown as Avenida Cundimarca? The latter, I have experienced, but only window shopping at what some members have indicated is not prime time. I have cruised the area, but feel like I am missing what others find intriguing. I also don't think I have walked the extra block to Raudal.

I guess, in the end, New Life is always a 10 minute walk away.Start at Botero Plaza, in front of the Museum, facing the Museum. Turn left. Conejitas should now be behind you. Walk. Throughout the Plaza you should see the Venezuelans, mostly hanging around in groups of 2 or 3.

Once you reach the old white church, it will be on your right, turn right. That's Iglesia Veracruz. There's a pedestrian alley along the south side of the church. Starting at the wall in front of the southeast corner of the church you'll spot working girls. Some will be trannies. Walk down the alley to the next street. At the corner there will be a casino on your left and a bakery on your right. This is the beginning of the Veracruz block.

Just south of the casino there's a stairwell that often has several working girls in it. There's nothing else in that direction. If you cross the street, just past the corner there will sometimes be girls on either side, but I've never seen any who were at all attractive to me. Turn right. Walk north. There will be girls on both sides of the street. On the east side, the girls end at the south end of the museum. On rare occasions I've seen a couple of girls behind the museum. On the west side the girls end at the big parking lot (it's behind the tall hedges). Occasionally there will be a few girls around the parking lot. They have always appeared to be glue sniffers to me.

At this point, if you turn right, you'll return to Botero Plaza with the Museum on your left. Instead, continue north until you reach the next street cross the street. If you turn right you'll reach Conejitas. You'll also pass by Taberna Victoria, a never reviewed strip club.

Instead, turn left. Walk one block. You'll pass by Excalibur casino. Just before the corner you'll start seeing the working girls. That's where you'll find the tall brunette with the Barbie body that Wolf662 called one of his favorites. About half the time she's showing so much tit one or both nipples are out. At the corner, there's a bar on both sides. The west side is usually where the biggest group of women will be. Turn right. There will be women on both sides for about half a block. This is the Raudal area. There's nothing to be seen if you continue north. If at the corner you continue west there's one tiny bar where you'll see a few girls. Always looked pretty rough to me. There's nothing more to the west.

Starting 1 block east of the Raudal corner are a couple of streets of bars. You'll find girls in most of the bars. They're there to get you to buy drinks. Some are available, some aren't. If you're at the Raudal corner, turn around. Head East 1 block and turn left. On the left side you'll see Taberna Hilton, another never reviewed strip club. Bars will be on both sides of the street for 1 block. At the corner, on the right, is a small plaza area. There's a diagonal walking street leading south from the plaza, with produce stands down the middle. There are several more bars on the south side. The next street to the east also has several bars and 1 more never mentioned strip club.

Surfer500
12-12-19, 22:24
"Behind the church" - is this what appears on Google Maps as Calle 51 A? Or, is it what is shown as Avenida Cundimarca? The latter, I have experienced, but only window shopping at what some members have indicated is not prime time. I have cruised the area, but feel like I am missing what others find intriguing. I also don't think I have walked the extra block to Raudal.

I guess, in the end, New Life is always a 10 minute walk away.Don't know the name of the street but I'm pretty sure you found it if you walked down the pedestrian walkway with the "glass" covering the drainage system. And based on your take of the area you walked around, you "personally", didn't miss anything intriguing, whereas others like myself find the place intriguing.

FunGuy12
12-12-19, 23:21
Switch your sim card to Movistar.

I did not have any trouble with my maps.Have you been to Panama city?

Surfer500
12-13-19, 01:43
Instead, turn left. Walk one block. You'll pass by Excalibur casino. Just before the corner you'll start seeing the working girls. That's where you'll find the tall brunette with the Barbie body that Wolf662 called one of his favorites. About half the time she's showing so much tit one or both nipples are out. At the corner, there's a bar on both sides.Sounds like you know the Raudal / Avenida de la Grief area like the back of your hand. An excellent write up and directions for the area. I can only imagine a "Monger's" version of Google Maps, when the speaker giving directions say's, "when you pass by the Excalibur Casino, and just before the corner, look for a tall brunette with one or both nipples hanging out and that's where you'll see the working girls.

PolloNegro
12-13-19, 05:35
So what is the go-to hotel now that Ayenda Botero is bust? And what is a Vennie? Venezuelan? Thank you.Hotel zona rosa and. Hotel Boulevard, right behind the church on carrera 52. Pollo negro is out!

Wolf662
12-13-19, 05:49
So what is the go-to hotel now that Ayenda Botero is bust? And what is a Vennie? Venezuelan? Thank you.Well I think Pollo Negro said they just weren't allowing the Venezuelan chicks in, Colombian women with ID's should be fine, just rent a room for 2 guests.

Lucky Nuts
12-13-19, 14:49
Isn't that what Gusto's is?

Scratching my head. You want a place like a gogo bar, but you don't want it to be a strip club? But gogo bars and strip clubs are basically the same damn thing! Only difference is that you can fuck the chicks there at the strip clubs, whereas a gogo bar you have to pay to take them out. Other than that, they are exactly the same. Dudes buying drinks. Dudes buying drinks for chicks. Chicks dancing on a stage. Gogo bar is just what strip clubs in Asia are called.If Gustos was like Habanos I'd be there most every night. Ok yes it's a bar selling drinks that has chicas available. But it's there to serve a niche market of guys which is almost none of us on this forum. So we use Facebook instead.

Not sure if you've tried the strip clubs Mr. E but the service is very mechanical with clock watching chicas waiting for the hour to end. And BBBJ is often not available even with a substantial propina. As you know in SE Asia you negotiate with the girl what you want and generally receive great service back in your own apartment and bed. And again this is what FB is useful to get in Medellin.

FB provides the venue to negotiate a GFE session at a reasonable price in Medellin the same way we do this at Habanos or a beer bar / agogo in Pattaya.

Knowledge
12-13-19, 16:22
I will settle this. OK, facebook is great for those who like it. For others, it's not so great. Can we move on now, please?


If Gustos was like Habanos I'd be there most every night. Ok yes it's a bar selling drinks that has chicas available. But it's there to serve a niche market of guys which is almost none of us on this forum. So we use Facebook instead.

Not sure if you've tried the strip clubs Mr. E but the service is very mechanical with clock watching chicas waiting for the hour to end. And BBBJ is often not available even with a substantial propina. As you know in SE Asia you negotiate with the girl what you want and generally receive great service back in your own apartment and bed. And again this is what FB is useful to get in Medellin.

FB provides the venue to negotiate a GFE session at a reasonable price in Medellin the same way we do this at Habanos or a beer bar / agogo in Pattaya.

Surfer500
12-13-19, 17:34
I will settle this. OK, facebook is great for those who like it. For others, it's not so great. Can we move on now, please?As much as you would like to settle this, as long as the Medellin thread contains everything under the sun, with no breakout like in other Countries on ISG, everybody is just going to have to deal with it. I'm sure the FB guys, and I have nothing against them, have to be tired of listening to all the "babble" regarding the SW scene, and vice-versa in regards to the Fay Boo "babble".

MMHikeus
12-13-19, 17:50
I will settle this. OK, facebook is great for those who like it. For others, it's not so great. Can we move on now, please?Bingo. They are all different tools available. Use what works best for you. Share info and happy mongering.

SlapShot10
12-13-19, 19:13
I finally made it to La Isla, last night, a Thursday. My initial plan was to maybe hit Bendito Seas for Ladies Night / Open Bar, and then make my way up the hill after I had a few drinks. Well, I got stuck in Ay Wey Bar for awhile because of the rain. I also read a review posted by an ISG member that said go around 10-11 p on Thursday. So, I did.

10 k cover.

300 k 40-45 mins.

22 k Club Colombia.

The girls don't seem to care much if you paid attention to their dance, let alone if you were even there, yet. So, I'd say have a stack of 2 k bills in your pocket, ready to hand out. It can be irritating, but it's not worth the effort to haggle over 75 cents. The girls are somewhat pushy for drinks, as well, but maybe it depends on the girl. The moms tend to be more of the hustlers, when it comes to that. I bought some drinks for a couple girls from Bello, but eventually got tired of the sales pitch. I ended up going with a couple girls that were bubbly and sucking each other's nipples to inspire me. As usual, another threesome that was over-promised and under-delivered, as far as the girl-to-girl performance is concerned. These two definitely were not the best looking girls in the place, but they had a chemistry together that I thought might be fun. One was the saleswoman, the other was the quiet freak. It was ok, but for the price, certainly not worth it. The first girl by the bar said 800 k for take-out. I told her that was ridiculous, and I could get 4-5 girls in Lleras at that price. She shit-talked Lleras girls, which was sort of comical.

By the end of the night, it was almost 900 k for Uber, entry, drinks, and 3 some. Room was ok, probably not the best in town, but definitely not the worst. I always hate the moment when I take my socks off haha. I couldn't finish the 2nd round, before the cleaning lady was banging on the door. No BBBJ, and a little bit of a rush to put the condom on, which always kills me. I made fun of the girls for giving me a HJ like a HS kid whose parents went to the grocery store.

I forget my experience at Fase II, years ago, so I can't really comment as to which is better, but I think La Isla is a little bigger and maybe feels cleaner / classier in the bar / stage / lounge areas. Based on what the Uber driver said, I think Fase II is also a little cheaper. Overall, a pretty decent group of girls, and plenty to choose from. I think at 300 k, many guys willing to spend the extra amount would be happy. There were a few gringos that must have had close to 20 girls whooping it up with shots, all night, then probably took 5-8 for take-out. I didn't see many dark girls, if some members are into that. There was certainly a variety, but that stuck out, to me.

I think I will use JjBee62's treasure map, this afternoon. Special thanks for that. WorldTraveler69's map is on my phone, but the detail on this specific area was fantastic.

Petite Blonde returns to MDE, today, so I've got some decisions to make before my Monday departure. I think a Centro, and possibly New Life, journey today will help my mind balance last night's charges.

Cheers!

PolloNegro
12-13-19, 19:23
Well I think Pollo Negro said they just weren't allowing the Venezuelan chicks in, Colombian women with ID's should be fine, just rent a room for 2 guests.My Colombian friends could come over without any issues! Pollo negro is out!

JjBee62
12-14-19, 01:55
As much as you would like to settle this, as long as the Medellin thread contains everything under the sun, with no breakout like in other Countries on ISG, everybody is just going to have to deal with it. I'm sure the FB guys, and I have nothing against them, have to be tired of listening to all the "babble" regarding the SW scene, and vice-versa in regards to the Fay Boo "babble".I don't mind any of it. For me, every post is either a chance to learn something, or a chance to help someone. I first got to Medellin thinking Energy spa was the best option available. If I'd come 2 years earlier, I would have thought it was the Mayorista area. 6 months later, it would have been New Life.

At some point, every possible method or location for getting laid, has been the best deal in Medellin. Right now Facebook is popular. In a few months it will be something else.


Sounds like you know the Raudal / Avenida de la Grief area like the back of your hand. An excellent write up and directions for the area. I can only imagine a "Monger's" version of Google Maps, when the speaker giving directions say's, "when you pass by the Excalibur Casino, and just before the corner, look for a tall brunette with one or both nipples hanging out and that's where you'll see the working girls.I'm a bit of an information junkie. I wanted to know what El Centro was really like. I walked the streets, hit some of the casas, went into the shopping malls, although mall might be the wrong word. I even spent 2 nights at the Mansion, just to learn about it. If I remember correctly, I even hit a couple of casas on Christmas day. Weak lineups, but a few were open.

I'm also a voyeur. Once I got over my fear of El Centro, it became my go-to place to unwind. I covered just about every street from Oriental down to 3 blocks west of Raudal and between San Antonio and Prado metro stations. I hit the girl zones 3 or 4 times a day, just enjoying the eye candy.

As for directions, before smart phones and Google maps I had to call for directions several times a week, all over the US. Alabama directions were always like:

"When you come to the stoplight by the Burger King, that's where Jim Billy Bubba had his Cadillac dealership, back before it burnt down. He sure did love his Cadillacs. At that light you go straight to the next light. There used to be a house there with a big white dog. That dog barked at everyone. One day it ran out and barked at Miss Edna and she whacked it with her cane."

Twenty minutes later I'd decipher the directions to "go to the third light, turn right, we're the second building on the right."

Dcfan77
12-14-19, 02:18
Wow very impressive man!! Just like I remembered it. Keep in mind guys this whole area is very sketchy watch your pockets and dress down, no valuables. The 2 strip clubs you're talking about actually has been mentioned. Just in many thread past. Those strip clubs are hit or miss. But I'm sure with the influx of the Venies, competition should be in our favor. All the other bars are hostess bars. Girl get payed to drink and dance with you. If you have good game and speak Spanish you will do very well in these bars. I have had very good luck there. Just get there number and setup a date. Keep in mind guys that all theses bars 3 or 4 years ago were all Colombianas. Now almost all the hostess bars are Venies. The makings of a lot of resentment and competition.

ALWAYS WATCH YOUR DRINK!


Start at Botero Plaza, in front of the Museum, facing the Museum. Turn left. Conejitas should now be behind you. Walk. Throughout the Plaza you should see the Venezuelans, mostly hanging around in groups of 2 or 3.

Once you reach the old white church, it will be on your right, turn right. That's Iglesia Veracruz. There's a pedestrian alley along the south side of the church. Starting at the wall in front of the southeast corner of the church you'll spot working girls. Some will be trannies. Walk down the alley to the next street. At the corner there will be a casino on your left and a bakery on your right. This is the beginning of the Veracruz block.

Just south of the casino there's a stairwell that often has several working girls in it. There's nothing else in that direction. If you cross the street, just past the corner there will sometimes be girls on either side, but I've never seen any who were at all attractive to me. Turn right. Walk north. There will be girls on both sides of the street. On the east side, the girls end at the south end of the museum. On rare occasions I've seen a couple of girls behind the museum. On the west side the girls end at the big parking lot (it's behind the tall hedges). Occasionally there will be a few girls around the parking lot. They have always appeared to be glue sniffers to me.

At this point, if you turn right, you'll return to Botero Plaza with the Museum on your left. Instead, continue north until you reach the next street cross the street. If you turn right you'll reach Conejitas. You'll also pass by Taberna Victoria, a never reviewed strip club..

The Tall Man
12-14-19, 02:44
I finally made it to La Isla, last night, a Thursday. My initial plan was to maybe hit Bendito Seas for Ladies Night / Open Bar, and then make my way up the hill after I had a few drinks. Well, I got stuck in Ay Wey Bar for awhile because of the rain. I also read a review posted by an ISG member that said go around 10-11 p on Thursday. So, I did.

10 k cover.

300 k 40-45 mins.

22 k Club Colombia.

The girls don't seem to care much if you paid attention to their dance, let alone if you were even there, yet. So, I'd say have a stack of 2 k bills in your pocket, ready to hand out. It can be irritating, but it's not worth the effort to haggle over 75 cents. The girls are somewhat pushy for drinks, as well, but maybe it depends on the girl. The moms tend to be more of the hustlers, when it comes to that. I bought some drinks for a couple girls from Bello, but eventually got tired of the sales pitch. I ended up going with a couple girls that were bubbly and sucking each other's nipples to inspire me. As usual, another threesome that was over-promised and under-delivered, as far as the girl-to-girl performance is concerned. These two definitely were not the best looking girls in the place, but they had a chemistry together that I thought might be fun. One was the saleswoman, the other was the quiet freak. It was ok, but for the price, certainly not worth it. The first girl by the bar said 800 k for take-out. I told her that was ridiculous, and I could get 4-5 girls in Lleras at that price. She shit-talked Lleras girls, which was sort of comical.

By the end of the night, it was almost 900 k for Uber, entry, drinks, and 3 some. Room was ok, probably not the best in town, but definitely not the worst. I always hate the moment when I take my socks off haha. I couldn't finish the 2nd round, before the cleaning lady was banging on the door. No BBBJ, and a little bit of a rush to put the condom on, which always kills me. I made fun of the girls for giving me a HJ like a HS kid whose parents went to the grocery store.Good report. Yes The Tall Man has played in La Isla in days gone by, seriously the last time was there was probably 3 year ago and it just doesn't float my boat any more.

Agree that the rooms are not bad but not necessarily good neither, that is for the price of 300 mil for 45 minutes, no thanks.

So a few years ago I bought one of those special flash lights with a black light type of bulb, its purpose is to inspect hotel room beds and sheets / pillows and floors for bodily fluids. Well guess what I brought it with me a few times (it is very compact w /3 AAA batteries) and I inspected a number of the motels and working girl houses along with even regular hotel rooms and guess what? They all light up like a Christmas tree on December 25, all of them do, all beds / sheets / rugs / towels are completely stained with jizz and piss, disgusting.

The Tall Man.

Surfer500
12-14-19, 13:32
Friday night after having dinner in Provenza I decided check out the talent Parque Lleras. I arrived around 10 PM and took a few laps around and within the Park. I saw at least two dozen girls working, they were either sitting alone, in pairs, walking, etc. And there were some very pretty ones out. I got approached by three girls, chit chatted with them, and told one of them in Spanish that I wasn't horny to get her to go away. Another one asked me where I was going and I said to my apartment and she asked me if she could come over, but I told her no. I didn't ask any of the girls how much they wanted as I wasn't interested, and found it refreshing compared to "ground zero" in El Centro as the majority of the girls were dressed very nice versus in rags. For guys who like to party, hit the bars, and speak a fair amount of Spanish, I can see this venue being something to try out on a weekend night. I have been through the Park during the evenings other than Thursday to Saturday and it can be pretty dead so wouldn't recommend going there then.

Turgid
12-14-19, 14:43
................So a few years ago I bought one of those special flash lights with a black light type of bulb, its purpose is to inspect hotel room beds and sheets / pillows and floors for bodily fluids. Well guess what I brought it with me a few times (it is very compact w /3 AAA batteries) and I inspected a number of the motels and working girl houses along with even regular hotel rooms and guess what? They all light up like a Christmas tree on December 25, all of them do, all beds / sheets / rugs / towels are completely stained with jizz and piss, disgusting.

The Tall Man.I will never buy one of those flash lights otherwise I may have difficulty getting it up in a casa or short time motel. As a matter of fact I may even have problems getting comfortable in my hotel room.

World Travel 69
12-14-19, 17:37
Yes, years ago.

I made a Map for it.

Too expensive for me.


Have you been to Panama city?

Knowledge
12-14-19, 17:39
Yes, I saw a news feature on American television something like 20 years ago about black inspection of hotel rooms. The reporter did it in various classes of hotels and they all lit up. So that is the deal. I like to keep my socks on a lot.


Good report. Yes The Tall Man has played in La Isla in days gone by, seriously the last time was there was probably 3 year ago and it just doesn't float my boat any more.

Agree that the rooms are not bad but not necessarily good neither, that is for the price of 300 mil for 45 minutes, no thanks.

So a few years ago I bought one of those special flash lights with a black light type of bulb, its purpose is to inspect hotel room beds and sheets / pillows and floors for bodily fluids. Well guess what I brought it with me a few times (it is very compact w /3 AAA batteries) and I inspected a number of the motels and working girl houses along with even regular hotel rooms and guess what? They all light up like a Christmas tree on December 25, all of them do, all beds / sheets / rugs / towels are completely stained with jizz and piss, disgusting.

The Tall Man.

SlapShot10
12-14-19, 20:28
Yesterday, I went on a mission to check out Veracruz / Botero (again) and find Raudal. Well, I went on my moto, so that I could take a gander without being the idiot gringo on his phone, looking at JjBee62's directions. WOW. Cruising through ZombieLand is surreal. Just north of Raudal and east of there to El Hueco (north of Conejitas) is rough. Half-living species all whacked-out on shoe glue, paint, and whatever else they can afford. Several younger males with visible injuries / wounds, etc. Anyhow, all the one-way streets made it a little difficult, so I cruised past Raudal once on my moto, and another on foot. Nothing worth stopping for, at the time (Friday mid-afternoon). Veracruz was also disappointing, as usual, for me. There was one young Paisa from Robledo that would have been The One, if I decided to partake. I almost did, just to try it, but for as cute as her face was, I couldn't. Beautiful eyes, pierced nose / lip, skinny, but unshaved legs, ghetto tattoos, and quoted 40 k. I was drawn to her, but if she was working at New Life, I'd probably choose some one else, and if she was at any other more expensive club / location, I'd definitely not pick her. I popped into Conejitas, which was surprisingly slow for a Friday; maybe because it was about 4 p, and the blue collar workers weren't clocked-out, yet. Then, I picked up my freshly-washed moto, and went to New Life. There was a really sexy girl named Daniella, who got swooped right before I could utter her name. I actually had a feeling this would happen, as there were maybe 7-8 guys in the waiting area. The mamasan lady disappeared, and I lost out. Second choice was easy. Isabella (I think). I actually flagged down the mamasan, at this point, because it would have been a significant drop-off to #3. 20 yo, lighter hair, good body, tattoos, and she was a good time. 60 k with a beer.

I then went to Parque Sabaneta to see the Christmas Lights, and it was absolutely packed. My Uber took the side streets the whole way, which took forever. I don't understand why he wouldn't use the highway (anyone?). It was around 830 p, so I don't think the license plate driving restriction thing would be in affect. I had a couple beers, snapped some pics, and then got a cab to Envigado. I wanted to try Lucio Carbon y Vino, but the kitchen was closed. Another place said the same, so my buddy and I just came back to Lleras. 37 Park was buzzing, but a little too gringo touristy for me. Meal was decent, and then we posted up at Beer Store for a couple. The previously-mentioned petite blonde made an appearance, in Lleras. She was walking around with another good-looking girl. I went with my buddy to The Deck, which wasn't bad. Kind of cool decor and vibe. I was getting tired, as was the Petite Blonde, who had forced my Colombian buddy to take her number, let her know when I want to go home, and make sure I didn't take anyone else. So, we met her and headed back to my apartment. Another free TLN. She's been on the rag for like 10 days. It just shows up while we're fucking. She said she had one of those injected contraceptives, and hadn't had a period in a year, so that's why it's a little off, right now. Thankfully, she literally just went to the doctor and got her papers. That being said, going BB with a PP and seeing sangre isn't exactly the best way to spend your morning. Though, she's cute, fun, and cleans my place up before she leaves.

Two nights left, and not quite sure what I want to do.

Cheers.

Surfer500
12-14-19, 21:49
Yesterday, I went on a mission to check out Veracruz / Botero (again) and find Raudal. Well, I went on my moto, so that I could take a gander without being the idiot gringo on his phone, looking at JjBee62's directions. WOW. Cruising through ZombieLand is surreal. Just north of Raudal and east of there to El Hueco (north of Conejitas) is rough. Half-living species all whacked-out on shoe glue, paint, and whatever else they can afford.

Another free TLN. She's been on the rag for like 10 days. It just shows up while we're fucking. She said she had one of those injected contraceptives, and hadn't had a period in a year, so that's why it's a little off, right now. Thankfully, she literally just went to the doctor and got her papers. That being said, going BB with a PP and seeing sangre isn't exactly the best way to spend your morning. Though, she's cute, fun, and cleans my place up before she leaves.

Two nights left, and not quite sure what I want to do.

Cheers.You most definitely have been making the most of your time here in Medellin going from Zombieland to LLeras and than a free TLN yesterday and Isla the day before. I like the way you roll, lots of different variety and can only imagine if you had a Harley to cruise around on in ZombieLand.

As far as the "half living species" you noticed, well they typically use glue or what's called Pegamente here and it has a solvents in it, and they are referred to as "Sacaleros" as they put the glue in a bag and inhale the fumes. Approximately three years ago there used to be what's known as "Sacalero Row" on the walkway beside the Museum where all the working Sacalero girls would hang out like a bunch of Groupies. There were actually some pretty hot ones back then, but all typically skinny with a stench to them and most of the the time in a Zombie Trance, exactly as you described them.

Nounce
12-15-19, 00:52
Let the party people be fools and paid the 150-200 dollar price tag in Gusto.This is an ISG ritual for Medellin newbies when it involves Gusto girls. You gathered all the info beforehand and decide to pay to get what you want. I think you did great and I enjoy your reports.

Strictly speaking, you paid $150 to the girl for TLN, not $200 for short time.

Knowledge
12-15-19, 01:18
You get around. I'm surprised you had trouble finding a restaurant at that time of day in Envigado. It's become a foodie destination the past couple of years. I hope you check out some of the hipster restaurants in the barrio Milan near El Poblado and let us know what you think.


Yesterday, I went on a mission to check out Veracruz / Botero (again) and find Raudal. Well, I went on my moto, so that I could take a gander without being the idiot gringo on his phone, looking at JjBee62's directions. WOW. Cruising through ZombieLand is surreal. Just north of Raudal and east of there to El Hueco (north of Conejitas) is rough. Half-living species all whacked-out on shoe glue, paint, and whatever else they can afford. Several younger males with visible injuries / wounds, etc. Anyhow, all the one-way streets made it a little difficult, so I cruised past Raudal once on my moto, and another on foot. Nothing worth stopping for, at the time (Friday mid-afternoon). Veracruz was also disappointing, as usual, for me. There was one young Paisa from Robledo that would have been The One, if I decided to partake. I almost did, just to try it, but for as cute as her face was, I couldn't. Beautiful eyes, pierced nose / lip, skinny, but unshaved legs, ghetto tattoos, and quoted 40 k. I was drawn to her, but if she was working at New Life, I'd probably choose some one else, and if she was at any other more expensive club / location, I'd definitely not pick her. I popped into Conejitas, which was surprisingly slow for a Friday; maybe because it was about 4 p, and the blue collar workers weren't clocked-out, yet. Then, I picked up my freshly-washed moto, and went to New Life. There was a really sexy girl named Daniella, who got swooped right before I could utter her name. I actually had a feeling this would happen, as there were maybe 7-8 guys in the waiting area. The mamasan lady disappeared, and I lost out. Second choice was easy. Isabella (I think). I actually flagged down the mamasan, at this point, because it would have been a significant drop-off to #3. 20 yo, lighter hair, good body, tattoos, and she was a good time. 60 k with a beer..

Foxwilly
12-15-19, 07:07
And again this is what FB is useful to get in Medellin.

FB provides the venue to negotiate a GFE session at a reasonable price in Medellin the same way we do this at Habanos or a beer bar / agogo in Pattaya.I am coming to Medellin in February and am keenly keeping track of this thread and doing some RTTF. To help, can anyone tell mr a good date range where I can find out how to start aquiring FB contacts? Or specific posters to search?

Thanks.

(oh and if anyone wants to do some MFM encounters with some open minded chicas. I'm down. LOL).

Surfer500
12-15-19, 12:54
You get around. I'm surprised you had trouble finding a restaurant at that time of day in Envigado. It's become a foodie destination the past couple of years. I hope you check out some of the hipster restaurants in the barrio Milan near El Poblado and let us know what you think.I think you meant to say Barrio "Manila" not Milan, and it is in Poblado, and if your going up Calle 10, it is directly opposite the EXITO as your headed up the hill to your left and is bounded by Avenida Las Vegas and Avenida Poblado. Lot's of restaurants in this area as you mentioned, and a short walking distance from the Poblado Metro Station.

Surfer500
12-15-19, 14:00
Saturday night at 7:30 PM I was with one of my regulars in Poblado. We were walking on the sidewalk along Carrea 46, about a block and a half away from the Poblado EXITO. We got caught in an unexpected downpour, and it was raining very hard as we were headed to Calle 10. While we were walking I had an umbrella to cover us and we had are heads down trying to figure out how not to step in the deeper puddles while we were walking. The street was deserted as there was nobody else out because of the heavy rainfall, and all of sudden a motorcycle pulls up with two guys on it, one guy gets off, put's a gun to my Chicas head, and say's give me your handbag or I will kill you. The guy takes the handbag, hops back on the Motorcycle, and they take off. This all happened in less than ten seconds and there wasn't much I could do about it. We were sitting ducks on a deserted street during a heavy downpour, and were unaware of our surroundings as we were walking with are heads down trying to figure out where to step. I was surprised that the thief didn't ask me to empty my pockets which I asked my Chica about, and she said for some reason women with bags seem to be targeted versus the men. I suspect that's because the thieves assume that a woman may not put up a fight, versus a man might. Regardless, if any one has a gun, I'm not going to put up a fight. So my Chica got her bag stolen, she had 40 Mil on her, a cheap cell phone, and some clothes in her bag, and her Cedula as well taken.

Lessons learned, if I had been asked to empty my pockets, I would of been totally hosed as I had my USA I phone with me, versus my Colombian burner phone. As far as money in my wallet, well a couple of hundred mil which means nothing to me versus losing my USA cell phone. So not only do we have to worry about the Chicas ripping us off, here's just something else to be concerned about. It's not safe anywhere in Medellin. Carry as little as possible with you, and always be aware of your surroundings, even when it's raining. There's some very cleaver thieves here, and they know what they are doing.

BoredInIN
12-15-19, 14:36
I am coming to Medellin in February and am keenly keeping track of this thread and doing some RTTF. To help, can anyone tell mr a good date range where I can find out how to start aquiring FB contacts? Or specific posters to search?

Thanks.

(oh and if anyone wants to do some MFM encounters with some open minded chicas. I'm down. LOL).I was going to message you but you're not a paid member. But to answer your fb question I'the say 2 weeks out is plenty of time. Once they know you're there they will be ready to pounce on you.

Foxwilly
12-15-19, 15:40
I was going to message you but you're not a paid member. But to answer your fb question I'the say 2 weeks out is plenty of time. Once they know you're there they will be ready to pounce on you.Thanks.

Is this with that new Facebook dating app?

Otherwise, how do they know when I am going to be in Colombia.

I have been looking into buying a paid membership but I am travellling in Mexico right now and shit that process looks like a pain in the ass.

Knowledge
12-15-19, 22:24
I forgot to turn off the auto correct. It gets me every time I forget to turn it off.


I think you meant to say Barrio "Manila" not Milan, and it is in Poblado, and if your going up Calle 10, it is directly opposite the EXITO as your headed up the hill to your left and is bounded by Avenida Las Vegas and Avenida Poblado. Lot's of restaurants in this area as you mentioned, and a short walking distance from the Poblado Metro Station.

Nounce
12-15-19, 23:52
So not only do we have to worry about the Chicas ripping us off, here's just something else to be concerned about. It's not safe anywhere in Medellin. Carry as little as possible with you, and always be aware of your surroundings, even when it's raining. There's some very cleaver thieves here, and they know what they are doing.Surfer, glad you are ok. These types of robberies are not uncommon. There are many reports that people are robbed in taxis by robbers riding motorcycles. I don't think there is any easy way to predict when and where it will happen.

JjBee62
12-16-19, 00:12
Thanks.

Is this with that new Facebook dating app?

Otherwise, how do they know when I am going to be in Colombia.

I have been looking into buying a paid membership but I am travellling in Mexico right now and shit that process looks like a pain in the ass.This has been covered about 20 times. You need to add girls to your friend list. You can search the forum for "friends" and find posts telling you how to find girls. Some will message you immediately, some you'll need to message. There's no need to send messages until you're close to arrival.

Once you arrive, post a message and picture tagging yourself in Medellin. All the girls on your friend list will see it.

Mr Enternational
12-16-19, 00:44
Saturday night at 7:30 PM I was with one of my regulars in Poblado. The street was deserted as there was nobody else out because of the heavy rainfall, and all of sudden a motorcycle pulls up with two guys on it, one guy gets off, put's a gun to my Chicas head, and say's give me your handbag or I will kill you.Got damn Surf. What you doing in Poblado? You better take your ass back downtown where it is safe.

The Tall Man
12-16-19, 01:25
Saturday night at 7:30 PM I was with one of my regulars in Poblado. We were walking on the sidewalk along Carrea 46, about a block and a half away from the Poblado EXITO. We got caught in an unexpected downpour, and it was raining very hard as we were headed to Calle 10. While we were walking I had an umbrella to cover us and we had are heads down trying to figure out how not to step in the deeper puddles while we were walking. The street was deserted as there was nobody else out because of the heavy rainfall, and all of sudden a motorcycle pulls up with two guys on it, one guy gets off, put's a gun to my Chicas head, and say's give me your handbag or I will kill you. The guy takes the handbag, hops back on the Motorcycle, and they take off. This all happened in less than ten seconds and there wasn't much I could do about it. We were sitting ducks on a deserted street during a heavy downpour, and were unaware of our surroundings as we were walking with are heads down trying to figure out where to step. I was surprised that the thief didn't ask me to empty my pockets which I asked my Chica about, and she said for some reason women with bags seem to be targeted versus the men. I suspect that's because the thieves assume that a woman may not put up a fight, versus a man might. Regardless, if any one has a gun, I'm not going to put up a fight. So my Chica got her bag stolen, she had 40 Mil on her, a cheap cell phone, and some clothes in her bag, and her Cedula as well taken.And Poblado area to boot, wow good thing you handed everything they ask for over.

These thugs always target the lamb and weakest among the bunch, that's why they always rip off the chicas. They are not stupid and will almost never mess with a big tall guy like me, why? Because there is always weak / small / frail guys or a woman that are easy targets.

I can tell you all with certainty that just in the past 2 or 3 months I have had 3 friends (all Colombians living in Medellin) that I know personally get held up. But again we are close to x-mass and holidays.

Never ever let your awareness down, as you see it does not matter if your in Poblado or centro, if your a target then your a target.

Never become confident and complacent.

Good thing you only lost some physical items and a part of your ego.

The Tall Man.

Combo
12-16-19, 02:10
Surfer, glad you are ok. These types of robberies are not uncommon. There are many reports that people are robbed in taxis by robbers riding motorcycles. I don't think there is any easy way to predict when and where it will happen.At a stop light in a taxi, you're an sitting target. Nothing you can do if someone points a gun in the back window. Walking with a chica IMO is also an inviting target.

These delinquents know what they're doing!

Knowledge
12-16-19, 02:58
True that, I feel a lot safer driving myself or sitting in the front seat of an uber. In the back seat of a taxi I keep my phone out of sight.


At a stop light in a taxi, you're an sitting target. Nothing you can do if someone points a gun in the back window. Walking with a chica IMO is also an inviting target.

These delinquents know what they're doing!

Mojo Bandit
12-16-19, 07:49
Regardless, if any one has a gun, I'm not going to put up a fight. So my Chica got her bag stolen, she had 40 Mil on her, a cheap cell phone, and some clothes in her bag, and her Cedula as well taken.

Glad you are okay, sorry that this happened to you. Only a fool would put up a fight in that situation. Those guys are scum. I am shocked too that they targeted her instead of a gringo.

Turgid
12-16-19, 13:23
Glad you are okay, sorry that this happened to you. Only a fool would put up a fight in that situation. Those guys are scum. I am shocked too that they targeted her instead of a gringo.Sounds to me that speed was important to them. It would have taken more time to ask the gringo to empty his pockets, etc. They did not want to get off the moto, just grab and go.

Surfer500
12-16-19, 13:42
Glad you are okay, sorry that this happened to you. Only a fool would put up a fight in that situation. Those guys are scum. I am shocked too that they targeted her instead of a gringo.Thank you and others (except Mr. E of course) for their concerns. It's an interesting question you ask as to why I wasn't targeted. My theory is, that since there were two of us, that it was easier for the ratero to just take my Chicas bag and run, versus telling me to fumble around and empty my pockets. My Chica told me that way more women get ripped off than men here. So I suspect as to what happened to me, they may have just decided to get the bag, versus having a potential confrontation with a male. Additionally, I am not an obvious "gringo" looks wise as I don't have blond hair and blue eyes, and have been told by Colombians that I can pass as a Colombian, at least with with my mouth shut. So perhaps in this situation, if it had been an obvious gringo, the Ratero might of said empty your pockets, etc. As one might assume a gringo may have more things of value on them. I really don't know as it happened so quick.

John Gault
12-16-19, 13:42
Saturday night at 7:30 PM I was with one of my regulars in Poblado. We were walking on the sidewalk along Carrea 46, about a block and a half away from the Poblado EXITO. We got caught in an unexpected downpour, and it was raining very hard as we were headed to Calle 10. While we were walking I had an umbrella to cover us and we had are heads down trying to figure out how not to step in the deeper puddles while we were walking. The street was deserted as there was nobody else out because of the heavy rainfall, and all of sudden a motorcycle pulls up with two guys on it, one guy gets off, put's a gun to my Chicas head, and say's give me your handbag or I will kill you. The guy takes the handbag, hops back on the Motorcycle, and they take off. This all happened in less than ten seconds and there wasn't much I could do about it. We were sitting ducks on a deserted street during a heavy downpour, and were unaware of our surroundings as we were walking with are heads down trying to figure out where to step. I was surprised that the thief didn't ask me to empty my pockets which I asked my Chica about, and she said for some reason women with bags seem to be targeted versus the men. I suspect that's because the thieves assume that a woman may not put up a fight, versus a man might. Regardless, if any one has a gun, I'm not going to put up a fight. So my Chica got her bag stolen, she had 40 Mil on her, a cheap cell phone, and some clothes in her bag, and her Cedula as well taken.

Lessons learned, if I had been asked to empty my pockets, I would of been totally hosed as I had my USA I phone with me, versus my Colombian burner phone. As far as money in my wallet, well a couple of hundred mil which means nothing to me versus losing my USA cell phone. So not only do we have to worry about the Chicas ripping us off, here's just something else to be concerned about. It's not safe anywhere in Medellin. Carry as little as possible with you, and always be aware of your surroundings, even when it's raining. There's some very cleaver thieves here, and they know what they are doing.I can't remember how many times I posted that Poblado was the most dangerous part of MDE for tourists. Not only the ripoffs by thugs. But also murders { tourists } occur there more than any other part of the city. I don't know why I preach about this as I should just let the new fellows just go there to be over charged for everything while they think they are safe from the harm they think is worse in other parts of the city.

Surfer500
12-16-19, 13:46
Got damn Surf. What you doing in Poblado? You better take your ass back downtown where it is safe.Your'e right as always Mr. E.

D Cups
12-16-19, 14:38
I can't remember how many times I posted that Poblado was the most dangerous part of MDE for tourists. Not only the ripoffs by thugs. But also murders { tourists } occur there more than any other part of the city. I don't know why I preach about this as I should just let the new fellows just go there to be over charged for everything while they think they are safe from the harm they think is worse in other parts of the city.I was there eight days in November and did not experience any problems. Then again I don't go out late at night preferring to hole up early with my chosen chica for the evening.

RudeBwoy100
12-16-19, 17:41
Stories like this is why you should never walk on any deserted street, it doesn't matter if it's in Poblado, Centro or anywhere else. The silver lining to this story is that nobody was injured & it seems that most of the stick up kids are cowards who only prey on the weak so we men will generally be less of a target, I feel bad for the Colombian women though.

Charm City Dave
12-16-19, 18:46
Saturday night at 7:30 PM I was with one of my regulars in Poblado. We were walking on the sidewalk along Carrea 46, about a block and a half away from the Poblado EXITO. We got caught in an unexpected downpour, and it was raining very hard as we were headed to Calle 10. While we were walking I had an umbrella to cover us and we had are heads down trying to figure out how not to step in the deeper puddles while we were walking. The street was deserted as there was nobody else out because of the heavy rainfall, and all of sudden a motorcycle pulls up with two guys on it, one guy gets off, put's a gun to my Chicas head, and say's give me your handbag or I will kill you. The guy takes the handbag, hops back on the Motorcycle, and they take off. ......... So my Chica got her bag stolen, she had 40 Mil on her, a cheap cell phone, and some clothes in her bag, and her Cedula as well taken.

Lessons learned, if I had been asked to empty my pockets, I would of been totally hosed as I had my USA I phone with me, versus my Colombian burner phone. ...... Appreciate your sharing. I wonder if Laureles is much safer or not. I often carry everything around in a slash proof, zipper locking pacsafe shoulder bag. I'm 6' tall, with light hair, blue eyes and I do not blend down here. I have long thought pick pockets are the greatest danger. Guess I got to rethink that. I have taken to leaving my ATM debit card in the room and only taking it out when I got to do an ATM run.

Wrx2005
12-16-19, 19:10
I have to say that on my next trip I might stay in Laureles because a person can save some serious money by doing so, but that being said, if money was not an object than it still depends on other factors. Which means of mongering are you going to be most likely to partake in? I primarily used FB and some tender and picked up some SWs in Parque LLeras. Energy was perfect for me. The building has good security which I respect not so much for my safety but for keeping me out of trouble if you know what I mean. For the square footage though you can probably find something for half the price in Laureles. But it definitely will not have the views that you get from the roof pool area of Energy,If you stayed in Laureles would you still go to Lleras Park and pick up SW and bring them back to your spot? (In Laureles) Is that doable, or can you find a short time spot right there near the park? I'm gathering intel, since I'm new to the Medellin Forum. I will go back about 6 to 12 months and catch up on the forum. I'm staying in the Laureles area. I'll be there almost a month late Jan until Feb. I also intend to visit Cartegena while I'm in Colombia. I hear it's a short flight from Medellin.

JjBee62
12-16-19, 21:49
Thank you and others (except Mr. E of course) for their concerns. It's an interesting question you ask as to why I wasn't targeted. My theory is, that since there were two of us, that it was easier for the ratero to just take my Chicas bag and run, versus telling me to fumble around and empty my pockets. My Chica told me that way more women get ripped off than men here. So I suspect as to what happened to me, they may have just decided to get the bag, versus having a potential confrontation with a male. Additionally, I am not an obvious "gringo" looks wise as I don't have blond hair and blue eyes, and have been told by Colombians that I can pass as a Colombian, at least with with my mouth shut. So perhaps in this situation, if it had been an obvious gringo, the Ratero might of said empty your pockets, etc. As one might assume a gringo may have more things of value on them. I really don't know as it happened so quick.I agree with your suspicions. These types of robberies are grab and go. Getting her bag probably took 2 seconds. Getting your stuff would have taken much longer. If you had been walking alone they may have passed you by. Or not.

JjBee62
12-16-19, 22:12
I can't remember how many times I posted that Poblado was the most dangerous part of MDE for tourists. Not only the ripoffs by thugs. But also murders { tourists } occur there more than any other part of the city. I don't know why I preach about this as I should just let the new fellows just go there to be over charged for everything while they think they are safe from the harm they think is worse in other parts of the city.The main reason why more gringos are murdered in Poblado is because 80% of the gringos are in Poblado. You'll almost never hear of a gringo being killed in Paris or Manrique, because gringos don't go there. That doesn't mean those are safe places to be walking around at night. In case someone is confused, Paris is a barrio south and west of Bello. Ask your favorite chica about it sometime.

Generally speaking Poblado is safer than most of Medellin. The people with money live in Poblado. Too much crime in Poblado is bad for business. That doesn't mean you're safe. Personal safety is less about location and more about behavior.

People get a false sense of security in Poblado and let their guard down.

Fun Luvr
12-16-19, 23:42
Saturday night at 7:30 PM I was with one of my regulars in Poblado. We were walking on the sidewalk along Carrea 46, about a block and a half away from the Poblado EXITO. We got caught in an unexpected downpour, and it was raining very hard as we were headed to Calle 10. While we were walking I had an umbrella to cover us and we had are heads down trying to figure out how not to step in the deeper puddles while we were walking. The street was deserted as there was nobody else out because of the heavy rainfall, and all of sudden a motorcycle pulls up with two guys on it, one guy gets off, put's a gun to my Chicas head, and say's give me your handbag or I will kill you. The guy takes the handbag, hops back on the Motorcycle, and they take off. For those who are not familiar with Medellin, that area is not near Parque Lleras. It is in Patio Bonito. There have been reports in the past (none recently that I have seen) warning about possible dangers there. For anyone staying in that area, take a taxi, especially if you are walking with a chica. In a taxi you don't need to be concerned about the rain, and you will be relatively safe. If you insist on walking, tell the chica to leave her bag in the hotel or apartment.

Combo
12-17-19, 00:47
Stories like this is why you should never walk on any deserted street, it doesn't matter if it's in Poblado, Centro or anywhere else. The silver lining to this story is that nobody was injured & it seems that most of the stick up kids are cowards who only prey on the weak so we men will generally be less of a target, I feel bad for the Colombian women though.To be fair, it has little to do with us being less weak. And everything to do with efficiency. They want to execute the robbery in a few seconds at most. A women's purse is about as quick and easy as it gets. It takes a lot longer to go through a guy's 4 or 5 different pockets. Not saying they won't do the latter -- it's just not as quick.

Agree on the deserted streets, even in nice neighborhoods like Poblado. If you have to walk on them, keep your head on a swivel and be ready to run. Or just take a taxi / uber.

DetJunky
12-17-19, 01:55
Friday night after having dinner in Provenza I decided check out the talent Parque Lleras. I arrived around 10 PM and took a few laps around and within the Park. I saw at least two dozen girls working, they were either sitting alone, in pairs, walking, etc. And there were some very pretty ones out. I got approached by three girls, chit chatted with them, and told one of them in Spanish that I wasn't horny to get her to go away. Another one asked me where I was going and I said to my apartment and she asked me if she could come over, but I told her no. I didn't ask any of the girls how much they wanted as I wasn't interested, and found it refreshing compared to "ground zero" in El Centro as the majority of the girls were dressed very nice versus in rags. For guys who like to party, hit the bars, and speak a fair amount of Spanish, I can see this venue being something to try out on a weekend night. I have been through the Park during the evenings other than Thursday to Saturday and it can be pretty dead so wouldn't recommend going there then.Adding to that there are many party friendly apartments in lleras now, you can step outside after 11 and you will see girls on cra 38 and infront of the clubs, myself and my baddies booked a decent place in lleras on Airbnb - https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/39367278?preview_for_ml=true&source_impression_id=p3_1572406591_96BEj5XPDQqP%2BB8M - picked up chicas on the same street, specially on Friday, Saturday they stand outside the clubs smoking or just trying to make eye contact.

During weekdays it is pretty much dead the action starts Thru, Fri, Sat from 11 to 3 AM, lleras is also very safe as no motorcycles are allowed on some streets and good security.

Knowledge
12-17-19, 02:53
It's not so easy to find taxis when it's raining hard. In Surfer's case, he mentioned he and the chica got caught in a sudden downpour, something that is not rare in Medellin, and the street became deserted suddenly. The scumbag bandits had the advantage of surprise. They likely realized they had the drop on the couple and could get close without being seen.


For those who are not familiar with Medellin, that area is not near Parque Lleras. It is in Patio Bonito. There have been reports in the past (none recently that I have seen) warning about possible dangers there. For anyone staying in that area, take a taxi, especially if you are walking with a chica. In a taxi you don't need to be concerned about the rain, and you will be relatively safe. If you insist on walking, tell the chica to leave her bag in the hotel or apartment.

Mojo Bandit
12-17-19, 08:27
Even with my limited spanish I can tell this obviously about community concern regarding sex tourism in Lleras Park (it is over a year old), anyone fluid in spanish care to convey the gist of what the residence being interviewed are saying?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGB5rZFCdH0

SJobs
12-17-19, 11:30
Saturday night at 7:30 PM I was with one of my regulars in Poblado....It's not safe anywhere in Medellin. Carry as little as possible with you, and always be aware of your surroundings, even when it's raining. There's some very cleaver thieves here, and they know what they are doing.Thanks for this post. I'm sorry this happened to you and I'm glad that you are OK. I walked around Lleras almost every night for more than a month, most of the time I feel safe, mainly because I stayed in areas where there are a lot of people. Based on my experience, Poblado is still the safest area in Medellin, whenever I pick up a chica on the street, I either get a taxi to my apartment right away or I take her into bars and clubs in the park. Thanks for this warning post, I will never take a girl to walk around the empty streets of Poblado.

SJobs
12-17-19, 11:34
I will be in Medellin in about 2 weeks, right before New Year's day. Does anyone know any good place to party all night on December 31st?

Turgid
12-17-19, 13:13
Stories like this is why you should never walk on any deserted street, it doesn't matter if it's in Poblado, Centro or anywhere else. The silver lining to this story is that nobody was injured & it seems that most of the stick up kids are cowards who only prey on the weak so we men will generally be less of a target, I feel bad for the Colombian women though.One should never let ones guard down no matter where you are. I once got robbed of a bag full of items I had bought to take back to the US on the penultimate day of a stay in Frankfurt, Germany. I rested the bag down on the sidewalk to take a photo and after I took the photo it was gone.

Septimius
12-17-19, 13:17
Adding to that there are many party friendly apartments in lleras now, you can step outside after 11 and you will see girls on cra 38 and infront of the clubs, myself and my baddies booked a decent place in lleras on Airbnb - https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/39367278?preview_for_ml=true&source_impression_id=p3_1572406591_96BEj5XPDQqP%2BB8M - picked up chicas on the same street, specially on Friday, Saturday they stand outside the clubs smoking or just trying to make eye contact.

During weekdays it is pretty much dead the action starts Thru, Fri, Sat from 11 to 3 AM, lleras is also very safe as no motorcycles are allowed on some streets and good security.You must really love this place because every post you make has a link to it. Are there any other properties you could recommend? Post them in the Hotel section, thanks.

Cypolo
12-17-19, 14:00
I've been on this forum for a while but never posted anything. Just want to contributed something as I'm heading to Medellin and spend my Christmas vacation there.

I was searching for a nice hotel in El Poblado area, the Hotel Du Parc Royal got all my interests. Called in and spoke with a manager at front desk to confirm its visitors policy. Although I just asked "what if I bring a friend as a guest", he understood immediately, "Bringing a girl up is 130,000, in USD it's about $40." LOL.

Thus, I believe it's a girl friendly hotel, but $40 per visit on top of $100/ night Room Rate. Hummm. I'm not sure if worth it. Any thoughts?

Thank you!

Mojo Bandit
12-17-19, 16:09
If you stayed in Laureles would you still go to Lleras Park and pick up SW and bring them back to your spot? (In Laureles) Is that doable, or can you find a short time spot right there near the park? I'm gathering intel, since I'm new to the Medellin Forum. I will go back about 6 to 12 months and catch up on the forum. I'm staying in the Laureles area. I'll be there almost a month late Jan until Feb. I also intend to visit Cartegena while I'm in Colombia. I hear it's a short flight from Medellin.

Its possible but Lleras Park is not what I would have in mind, I actually only picked up there one night (three chicas in one night) Taxi from Lleras to Laureles is a good 30 minutes so she would have to be the last chica of the day. Staying in Laureles I was thinking more about using FB chicas, and I am also exploring options in Centro for checking out SWs there for part of my trip but I would definitely not be bringing those chicas to Laureles, so I am also exploring hotels in that area. When I picked up three chicas in one night in Lleras I was ten minutes from there by taxi. It is possible I might split my time between Laureles and Centro next trip but I am not focused on Mongering in Lleras Park if I do. My thinking is that if it is later in the night or very early in the night and you offer to pay the chicas taxi home or back to Lleras and she is the only chica you plan to hit that night, it is doable, just not super convenient. Never used a short time hotel but I am thinking that I have heard there are some in Poblado area (which is where Lleras is).

I am not familiar with Laureles, so you should research the forum concerning if there are any strip clubs or casas in that area, at a minimum you could hit these places and get numbers from chicas that you like. Many forum members like Laureles so they are making it work for them.

Yes the flight between Cartagena and Medellin is short like one hour fifteen minutes, depending on your luggage situation and how far in advance you book, you can conceivably find a round trip ticket for under $100 flying on a Colombian Airline.

MMHikeus
12-17-19, 19:15
A friend of mine stayed at Four Points Sheraton. He says that the hotel is chica friendly. They need to leave their ID at the front desk. He has told status with the hotel chain, not sure if that makes difference or not. Hope this helps.

SpiderRider
12-18-19, 04:41
I will be in Medellin in about 2 weeks, right before New Year's day. Does anyone know any good place to party all night on December 31st?Chiva Bus from Hotel M on the 27th. I don't arrive til the 28th. Darn. All the bars will be open all night I'm sure on the 31st. I'll probably be on la 70 with a date

SJobs
12-18-19, 10:20
Chiva Bus from Hotel M on the 27th. I don't arrive til the 28th. Darn. All the bars will be open all night I'm sure on the 31st. I'll probably be on la 70 with a dateThanks. I won't get in until the 30th. Are you sure the clubs in Lleras will be busy on the 31st? All my gusto-girl contacts are telling me they will spend New Year's Eve with family. Some girl is telling me about a penthouse party, but it seems like it's invite only. Do you know if the mansion or gusto is throwing a big party on the 31st, or will paradise be open?

I was in a crazy party in paradise on Columbus Day (it was a Sunday), they brought in a good DJ and opened until 11 am. Lots of working girls showed that night, they were in groups, very intoxicated and high, all they were interested in was dancing, which was a lot of fun. Half of the girls are normal girls who just want to party. Is there a similar party for New Year celebration?

Surfer500
12-18-19, 13:08
I've been on this forum for a while but never posted anything. Just want to contributed something as I'm heading to Medellin and spend my Christmas vacation there.

I was searching for a nice hotel in El Poblado area, the Hotel Du Parc Royal got all my interests. Called in and spoke with a manager at front desk to confirm its visitors policy. Although I just asked "what if I bring a friend as a guest", he understood immediately, "Bringing a girl up is 130,000, in USD it's about $40." LOL.

Thus, I believe it's a girl friendly hotel, but $40 per visit on top of $100/ night Room Rate. Hummm. I'm not sure if worth it. Any thoughts?

Thank you!Maybe think about finding an apartment, any Hotel that charges $ 40 per visit isn't really girl friendly, and the Hotel makes a ton of money off of this, unless the employees or managers get this money which may be the case somehow. And the Hotel said there would be a fee of $ 40, even if you booked the room for two people on their website? Another thing you should consider doing wherever you land up, is always book a room for two people, than at least if it isn't clear about their policy, you have booked a room for two and would have to register the guest in and have an argument to avoid the guest fee, but that might be an issue bringing in multiple girls. Again, your best bet is to find an apartment, but security, etc. Can be issue depending on which building, and their policies. I don't know if this has helped much but hopefully things will work out for you and the Hotel section should provide you with a list of girl friendly places.

Septimius
12-18-19, 14:24
A friend of mine stayed at Four Points Sheraton. He says that the hotel is chica friendly. They need to leave their ID at the front desk. He has told status with the hotel chain, not sure if that makes difference or not. Hope this helps.I don't know how your buddy was able to get around that one. I called the hotel myself and they told me they charged a fee. And people on Tripadvisor posted the same thing as well. I'll post a pic of the review but one guy basically said if they are busy enough during the day they might just miss a girl coming up. Highly unlikely though. I tried this same stunt at the Marriott and it did not work. I brought the girl in when it was super busy. They didn't have a chance to ask about her or anything but about 15 minutes later they called my room telling me I had to register the guest. I am assuming I was being watched on camera because how else would they know what room I was in? I don't have Gold status but honestly I don't think it matters in Medellin. I will stop saying to post in the Medellin Hotel section LOL. I give up.

RudeBwoy100
12-18-19, 16:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP8HC-UBfGE

I'm not sure if you guys watched this video on this guy who got robbed by a girl he met on tinder but I think you all need to watch it.

Cliffs on the story:

- Gringo meets girl on tinder.

- Girl drugs and robs man.

- The following day the girl and her team breaks into all the rooms of the Airbnb and steals multiple items from multiple people.

- Guy does investigative work, gets police involved, he gets back his ID's & credit / debit cards but the perpetrators don't get arrested, the police gives him some crappy excuse and I can only assume they paid off the police.

Stories like this is why I stick to casas and strip clubs.

World Travel 69
12-18-19, 17:14
Not too exciting.

http://medellinbuzz.com/favorite-things-december-medellin/


https://www.civitatis.com/en/medellin/chiva-rumbera-medellin/


Chiva Bus from Hotel M on the 27th. I don't arrive til the 28th. Darn. All the bars will be open all night I'm sure on the 31st. I'll probably be on la 70 with a date

SJobs
12-18-19, 17:42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP8HC-UBfGE

I'm not sure if you guys watched this video on this guy who got robbed by a girl he met on tinder but I think you all need to watch it.

Cliffs on the story:

- Gringo meets girl on tinder.

- Girl drugs and robs man.

- The following day the girl and her team breaks into all the rooms of the Airbnb and steals multiple items from multiple people.

- Guy does investigative work, gets police involved, he gets back his ID's & credit / debit cards but the perpetrators don't get arrested, the police gives him some crappy excuse and I can only assume they paid off the police.

Stories like this is why I stick to casas and strip clubs.This guy is insane, you never keep all your money in one place, always lock your cards, ID and passport in a combination safe. Never hide your shit in the same apartment. It's hard to believe they came back to rob him again. After seeing so many warning messages here, I will definitely take a lot of more precautions this time.

MMHikeus
12-18-19, 18:21
I don't know how your buddy was able to get around that one. I called the hotel myself and they told me they charged a fee. And people on Tripadvisor posted the same thing as well. I'll post a pic of the review but one guy basically said if they are busy enough during the day they might just miss a girl coming up. Highly unlikely though. I tried this same stunt at the Marriott and it did not work. I brought the girl in when it was super busy. They didn't have a chance to ask about her or anything but about 15 minutes later they called my room telling me I had to register the guest. I am assuming I was being watched on camera because how else would they know what room I was in? I don't have Gold status but honestly I don't think it matters in Medellin. I will stop saying to post in the Medellin Hotel section LOL. I give up.I understand what you are saying. I wouldn't post it if I didn't see it with my own eyes. I went to meet my friend at hotel to go out together. I was in the lobby trying to call him. The lobby guys in the meantime asked me who I was there for. I gave details, they checked my ID, but didn't keep it, and called him up to check it was OK to send me up. I went to the room. He and a girl were there. He introduced me to the girl. He said she was with him since last night. We left the room together and went to the attached mall where he got money for the girl from the ATM. We returned to the hotel lobby, where the girl picked up her ID. She took a cab and left. After that I specifically asked my buddy if he had to pay any extra fees to the hotel. He said no he didn't pay anything extra, and he was having one or two girls visit him or overnight with him everyday. They only had to leave ID at front desk. He said he stays at the same hotel Everytime and they let the girls in, and don't charge a fee. He has gold or higher status and always gets upgraded to a suite. He is also a generous tipper. I saw him tip the hotel manager or similar, 100 USD, so that may have something to do with it, but he tipper at checkout. So maybe they remembered him from last time. That's all I know about it. I have never tried it, I don't know what pull he has.

Nclpimp
12-18-19, 20:35
Any of you old timers remember her. Light skin, dark hair, raspy voice, great Bbbjs. From at least 7 years ago. She had a baby about 7 years ago. Anyone have contact info for her please pm me. I'm going and love to see her.

John Gault
12-18-19, 22:24
Any of you old timers remember her. Light skin, dark hair, raspy voice, great Bbbjs. From at least 7 years ago. She had a baby about 7 years ago. Anyone have contact info for her please pm me. I'm going and love to see her.Of course you mean Demi Moore. A great provider. I did not know she had a baby.

Lefeu
12-18-19, 22:34
Of course you mean Demi Moore. A great provider. I did not know she had a baby.And I saw her recently on FB. Unfortunately, I don't remember her handle.

Surfer500
12-18-19, 22:37
This guy is insane, you never keep all your money in one place, always lock your cards, ID and passport in a combination safe. Never hide your shit in the same apartment. It's hard to believe they came back to rob him again. After seeing so many warning messages here, I will definitely take a lot of more precautions this time.I viewed portions of the video, and what stuck out to me is that he was staying in a building that had no security, or porteros / vigilantes monitoring the building 24/7. Hence the whole building got robbed. So given my own personal experiences as of lately, I now realize how dangerous our hobby is here in Colombia compared to most other places in the world. And what is disappointing is that prostitution is legal here, but you still have to watch your every step here.

ColombiaLover
12-19-19, 03:42
I got an e-mail that indicated the bar at the Mansion was going to have a New Year's Eve party this year. Lleras will be crammed with people. Many of the chicas will be with there families or friends, but some will not. Whether because family went out of town and they stayed behind or they want to party with a gringo who will pay the bill or they are just alone.


Thanks. I won't get in until the 30th. Are you sure the clubs in Lleras will be busy on the 31st? All my gusto-girl contacts are telling me they will spend New Year's Eve with family. Some girl is telling me about a penthouse party, but it seems like it's invite only. Do you know if the mansion or gusto is throwing a big party on the 31st, or will paradise be open?

I was in a crazy party in paradise on Columbus Day (it was a Sunday), they brought in a good DJ and opened until 11 am. Lots of working girls showed that night, they were in groups, very intoxicated and high, all they were interested in was dancing, which was a lot of fun. Half of the girls are normal girls who just want to party. Is there a similar party for New Year celebration?

SJobs
12-19-19, 07:46
I got an e-mail that indicated the bar at the Mansion was going to have a New Year's Eve party this year. Lleras will be crammed with people. Many of the chicas will be with there families or friends, but some will not. Whether because family went out of town and they stayed behind or they want to party with a gringo who will pay the bill or they are just alone.Thanks! I will give both the Mansion and Lleras a try. Too bad none of my go-to girls are available that night. I guess it's time to find a new girl for the new year.

SJobs
12-19-19, 12:13
I viewed portions of the video, and what stuck out to me is that he was staying in a building that had no security, or porteros / vigilantes monitoring the building 24/7. Hence the whole building got robbed. So given my own personal experiences as of lately, I now realize how dangerous our hobby is here in Colombia compared to most other places in the world. And what is disappointing is that prostitution is legal here, but you still have to watch your every step here.It is more dangerous compared to Germany or Switzerland, especially in my case, I speak zero Spanish. But for me, the reward is too high that makes the risk acceptable. In nowhere on earth, I can find this many smoking-hot 18-21 years at this price (I know you can find Asian girls in South East Asia, but I don't dig Asian girls). I think two things that made Medellin stand out as a world-class mongering destination: the amount of mongering options available, and the willingness and the quality of girls.

Fun Luvr
12-19-19, 15:41
And I saw her recently on FB. Unfortunately, I don't remember her handle.She deleted her Facebook account within the last month. Probably someone took her off the market. BTW, she has two children.

Balboa
12-19-19, 17:51
She deleted her Facebook account within the last month. Probably someone took her off the market. BTW, she has two children.I remember her at 18 years old, working the Mayorista!

Always cool.

Surfer500
12-19-19, 20:52
It is more dangerous compared to Germany or Switzerland, especially in my case, I speak zero Spanish. But for me, the reward is too high that makes the risk acceptable. In nowhere on earth, I can find this many smoking-hot 18-21 years at this price (I know you can find Asian girls in South East Asia, but I don't dig Asian girls). I think two things that made Medellin stand out as a world-class mongering destination: the amount of mongering options available, and the willingness and the quality of girls.Mongering in Germany, Switzerland, and many other European countries where prostitution is legal, has "zero" danger associated with it. Just imagine if lots of people spoke English and it wasn't dangerous here in Colombia, it would of been totally run over and ruined by Mongers years ago, and unfortunately it's been headed in that direction for a while as more and more Mongers are coming here. Your a perfect example, no Spanish speaking skills which can be a serious impediment which I'm sure you realize, yet your here because of what can be found, even given the risks.

Almotu
12-20-19, 18:55
Photo Prepagos is a tool I really never thought of using. I wonder if we could get some input from other men who have used it?

We have plenty of posts concerning FB, and Tinder, and Colombia Cupid, but not much on Photo Prepagos.

Thanks in advance.I prefer browsing Mileroticos because there are many more ads with chicas showing their faces, less photoshop. Generally, girls on Photoprepagos and Elbookrosa ask a higher price point. The best thing about these online options is the fact that they easily integrate with WhatsApp and I write better than I speak. I can be very specific with my needs, easily get in touch once I see that they are online. I have no problem going to an in-call so I find that I have better control of my time instead of waiting around for a FB girl to turn up.

Knowledge
12-20-19, 23:27
That is my biggest problem with the facebook scene, it involves more waiting than I am willing to do. It comes with the territory and of course if you are sitting around your place you can make the time pass without noticing it very much. The girls are juggling appointments and negotiating traffic delays; and they are living their lives. They have no problem leaving one of us waiting while they take care of their personal matters. It's all good. I personally prefer to give my time priority. There is a happy medium. You can tell the girl to show up no later than x hour and move on if she doesn't. At this stage of life I'm not going to be sitting around with my thumb up my ass wondering what to do next.


I prefer browsing Mileroticos because there are many more ads with chicas showing their faces, less photoshop. Generally, girls on Photoprepagos and Elbookrosa ask a higher price point. The best thing about these online options is the fact that they easily integrate with WhatsApp and I write better than I speak. I can be very specific with my needs, easily get in touch once I see that they are online. I have no problem going to an in-call so I find that I have better control of my time instead of waiting around for a FB girl to turn up.

BMo814
12-21-19, 01:22
That is my biggest problem with the facebook scene, it involves more waiting than I am willing to do. It comes with the territory and of course if you are sitting around your place you can make the time pass without noticing it very much. The girls are juggling appointments and negotiating traffic delays; and they are living their lives. They have no problem leaving one of us waiting while they take care of their personal matters. It's all good. I personally prefer to give my time priority. There is a happy medium. You can tell the girl to show up no later than x hour and move on if she doesn't. At this stage of life I'm not going to be sitting around with my thumb up my ass wondering what to do next.LOL. It's not as hard as why'all make it, not one girl made me wait out of 3 I smashed I met on FB. Matter fact I flaked on a couple and they tried rescheduling for another day. It's a useful option if they something you like.

BMo814
12-21-19, 01:31
I been getting a lot of private messages about a linked I posted. I posted the link so you all that are interested can ask her. I'm not her agent so send a message and try your luck like I did. This forum gives you all you need to know let your fingers / mouth / imagination handle the rest. What I might think is great you might not. I didn't leave a detailed report because I don't want why'all to have ya greedy hands on her LOL but she is for all us but you got to do the work yourself.

SlapShot10
12-21-19, 17:37
So, my second to last night in MDE (Saturday), I met a bloke and ended up going to Gustos. He had fallen in love with some girl that was working there, that night. Anyway, I ran into the real estate girl from early in my trip. Tall, beautiful face, dark straight hair, lighter eyes, has a kid, speaks a bit of English. She seemed to be helping out a group of her friends with guys, that night. She was drained and annoyed. She ends up asking me if we can leave, gratis. So, yes, I got wheeled out of Gustos. Probably the crowning achievement of my entire life. She stayed the night, GFE, once that night & once in the morning. I can't recall her working name.

Now, to get to the Title of this post, bad news for those that have PM'd me about the "Petite Blonde" . She is back in her hometown and currently retired from the game. On that same night, she ended up at a love motel with a gringo. This guy, loosely described as "bearded, gap-teeth, shorts, aggressive, drunk" roughed up the PB, and stole her cell phone. Maybe a case of two sides to every story, but she had visible bruises on her forearm and thigh. Her story goes, she didn't want to stay all night with him, so he took her phone and tried to prevent her from leaving. When the police arrived, they didn't attempt to help her, she never got her phone, and the motel reception girl tried to help to no avail. PB was really broken up, and her mom summoned her home. I spent the next evening with her. I took her out for dinner on my last night, she stayed over, helped me pack, and then had a sweet moment where my cleaning lady was having a heart-to-heart with her for awhile in the morning. Probably best for her, but it's unfortunate the decision was almost made for her, by one idiot. She's MAYBE 100 lbs, and to see her wincing every time I accidentally touched her arm, was pretty sad. She never asked for anything from me, so I have no reason to not believe her story.

All-in-all I had another amazing trip to MDE, and over 32 days, fell more and more in love with the idea of possibly relocating to the City of Eternal Spring.

Happy hunting thru the holidays, gents!

Cheers.

Mr Enternational
12-21-19, 18:52
Now, to get to the Title of this post, bad news for those that have PM'd me about the "Petite Blonde" . She is back in her hometown and currently retired from the game.It just goes to show that this game can be dangerous for the girls as well and the police is not always on the side of the girl and out to fleece the foreigners as many would have us believe.

GeneHickman
12-21-19, 20:18
It just goes to show that this game can be dangerous for the girls as well and the police is not always on the side of the girl and out to fleece the foreigners as many would have us believe.Absolutely, I think I mentioned that in one of my posts during my trip as a revelation. I saw some pretty shady looking characters amongst mongers in my last trip and that explained to me why some of these chicas take a while to open up. Its not all are your stereotype older 60's heavier set men. In many ways those are the better clients for these Chicas as they are seldom violent and easy to be with and the sex is not as physically demanding.
They of course love the younger clean cut ones just looking for poon even a little on the hard side is fine, but its the violent and predatorial types, that can't get it up without actually hurting them and inflicting real harm and don't seem to know or care about the limits and those kind do exist. Some will go to just try out that sick fantasy elsewhere. I am sure evey chica in the game for a while has had such an encounter. It does affect them.

I also think that is why they put a value on being a known client that is not a prick, just like we do with them.
That said, its not a done deal with this chica. Many times they go back and then life happens and they get right back into it.
Also slapshot can have this chica P4P if he wants even if she has "retired".

Surfer500
12-21-19, 20:27
It just goes to show that this game can be dangerous for the girls as well and the police is not always on the side of the girl and out to fleece the foreigners as many would have us believe.The sad part about all this is that a "gringo" according to Slapshot had roughed her up. I'm going to say based on what women here have told me, that it's "almost normal" for Colombian men to rough women up at times. But a gringo roughing up a Colombian, that's despicable. And the cops not doing anything, sounds a little bizarre, but the culture here in Colombia, and how they go about things can be mind boggling at times. Regardless, if the gringo roughed her up, he should of been hauled off and thrown in the slammer. I can't even imagine what the jails are like here, most probably not a pretty sight.

BMo814
12-21-19, 21:19
It just goes to show that this game can be dangerous for the girls as well and the police is not always on the side of the girl and out to fleece the foreigners as many would have us believe.This is very much adult thing and anything can happen at anytime. Many girls in Tijuana have told me about some crazy clients and I'm sure anywhere you go and ask the girls got a story for you.

Mr Enternational
12-21-19, 22:04
This is very much adult thing and anything can happen at anytime. Many girls in Tijuana have told me about some crazy clients and I'm sure anywhere you go and ask the girls got a story for you.I was in Tijuana the other day and came across a NICE SW that looked out of place. All she wanted was 200 pesos ($10.50) clothes off without negotiating, and 25 pesos for the room. I asked her what she was doing out there and she said that she needed money. She kept speaking in English even though I was speaking to her in Spanish and told her I was from Brazil. During the session she was doing the normal Tijuana shit looking at the ceiling and wall. I asked her why she was acting like that and she said it was just work. After the session I told her that I would like to get her again next time but she was acting so cold. She said next time it would be better, it was just that she was scared of me. I started laughing. One of the few that I have ever gotten contact info from. Will definitely hit her next time.

Combo
12-22-19, 00:30
It just goes to show that this game can be dangerous for the girls as well and the police is not always on the side of the girl and out to fleece the foreigners as many would have us believe.Yup. These girls get paid in cash, which makes them perfect targets for thieves.

Njoean197
12-22-19, 02:31
Arrived last night in Medellin.

Me- Mid 30's, decent looking, tall white male. Speak almost no Spanish.

It has exceeded expectations. Visited the Mansion in Poblado. 50,000 entry fee. About 10 girls all very attractive and very friendly. I was very surprised they were not pushy at all and genuinely seemed to just want to have fun. I stayed for 2 hours and took one of them back to my hotel for an hour. She charged me 200,000, plus it was 60.00 USD fee to bring her to my room. I probably could have negotiated down, but she was extremely friendly and fun. She did GFE and DFK. I sent her on her way after we were done and the night was young, so I went to Fase Dos. All the girls were very attractive. Some can be a bit pushy. I stayed about an hour and a half. Didn't get any of the girls, but one girl started out at 600,000 for 2 hours or so and eventually went down to 200,000 for 45 minutes. I still wasn't interested and didn't get her. I then went to Gusto's. Again the girls seemed very friendly in there and I took a very beautiful 22 year old out for an hour. She charged me 450,000 pesos. Again GFE and DFK. I should have negotiated but I was very drunk at this point. We got a short time hotel, it was very very nice. It was called Ibiza Hotel I think. It was 33.00 USD for the hour.

Side Notes: Mcdonalds has surpisingly good food in Medellin LOL. I was drunk when I ate there, but it was actually very good. Uber has been a pleasure and very cheap. The cab drivers have been very professional, helpful, and understanding since I speak almost no Spanish.

I am staying in Poblado Plaza. Only a snob would not find this hotel very nice. I can safely recommend this hotel to anyone wanting to stay in Medellin. Everything has been very nice here, except they don't really speak English and the 60.00 USD fee to bring a guest to my room. The front desk kinda seemed like he didn't totally approve of me bringing a guest up, but I can see where he is coming from.

I signed up at Body Tech Gym, in case anyone is looking for a nice gym. Way too expensive. It was 80.00 USD for a month's membership and they didn't do shorter memberships. The gym itself is very nice though.

JjBee62
12-22-19, 02:38
The sad part about all this is that a "gringo" according to Slapshot had roughed her up. I'm going to say based on what women here have told me, that it's "almost normal" for Colombian men to rough women up at times. But a gringo roughing up a Colombian, that's despicable. And the cops not doing anything, sounds a little bizarre, but the culture here in Colombia, and how they go about things can be mind boggling at times. Regardless, if the gringo roughed her up, he should of been hauled off and thrown in the slammer. I can't even imagine what the jails are like here, most probably not a pretty sight.Who knows what really happened? I doubt any of us would be shocked to learn a chica had made up or exaggerated a story for some purpose.

Whether or not a girl asks me for something, I doubt all sob stories. Even if the story is 100% true, it's not my problem. I didn't steal your phone. I didn't make your mother sick. My name is not on the lease for the apartment where your rent is due.

SJobs
12-22-19, 04:33
I was in Tijuana the other day and came across a NICE SW that looked out of place. All she wanted was 200 pesos ($10.50) clothes off without negotiating, and 25 pesos for the room. I asked her what she was doing out there and she said that she needed money. She kept speaking in English even though I was speaking to her in Spanish and told her I was from Brazil. During the session she was doing the normal Tijuana shit looking at the ceiling and wall. I asked her why she was acting like that and she said it was just work. After the session I told her that I would like to get her again next time but she was acting so cold. She said next time it would be better, it was just that she was scared of me. I started laughing. One of the few that I have ever gotten contact info from. Will definitely hit her next time.I had similar experience in Medellin with girls from Gusto and Paradise. At first they were cold and standoffish, but after a few overnight stay with me, I gain their trust completely. We would go party all night, when they go use the bathroom, they would leave me their phone, sometimes unlocked. Sex is infinitely better once you build a level of comfort and trust with the girls.

Knowledge
12-22-19, 18:07
Thank you for sharing. I think you will enjoy your visits more and more as you gain experience. You paid top dollar but more importantly, you know you paid top dollar. Probably because you took the time to RTFF. I'm looking forward to reading more.


Arrived last night in Medellin.

Me- Mid 30's, decent looking, tall white male. Speak almost no Spanish.

It has exceeded expectations. Visited the Mansion in Poblado. 50,000 entry fee. About 10 girls all very attractive and very friendly. I was very surprised they were not pushy at all and genuinely seemed to just want to have fun. I stayed for 2 hours and took one of them back to my hotel for an hour. She charged me 200,000, plus it was 60.00 USD fee to bring her to my room. I probably could have negotiated down, but she was extremely friendly and fun. She did GFE and DFK. I sent her on her way after we were done and the night was young, so I went to Fase Dos. All the girls were very attractive. Some can be a bit pushy. I stayed about an hour and a half. Didn't get any of the girls, but one girl started out at 600,000 for 2 hours or so and eventually went down to 200,000 for 45 minutes. I still wasn't interested and didn't get her. I then went to Gusto's. Again the girls seemed very friendly in there and I took a very beautiful 22 year old out for an hour. She charged me 450,000 pesos. Again GFE and DFK. I should have negotiated but I was very drunk at this point. We got a short time hotel, it was very very nice. It was called Ibiza Hotel I think. It was 33.00 USD for the hour..

PolloNegro
12-22-19, 19:52
Who knows what really happened? I doubt any of us would be shocked to learn a chica had made up or exaggerated a story for some purpose.

Whether or not a girl asks me for something, I doubt all sob stories. Even if the story is 100% true, it's not my problem. I didn't steal your phone. I didn't make your mother sick. My name is not on the lease for the apartment where your rent is due.The BS stories that comes along with a monger's life makes, it hard to pay attention to events that we did not create. Pollo negro is out!

CzarNicholas
12-22-19, 21:57
Whether or not a girl asks me for something, I doubt all sob stories. Even if the story is 100% true, it's not my problem. I didn't steal your phone. I didn't make your mother sick. My name is not on the lease for the apartment where your rent is due.

The Tall Man
12-22-19, 22:45
Arrived last night in Medellin.

Me- Mid 30's, decent looking, tall white male. Speak almost no Spanish.

It has exceeded expectations. Visited the Mansion in Poblado. 50,000 entry fee. About 10 girls all very attractive and very friendly. I was very surprised they were not pushy at all and genuinely seemed to just want to have fun. I stayed for 2 hours and took one of them back to my hotel for an hour. She charged me 200,000, plus it was 60.00 USD fee to bring her to my room. I probably could have negotiated down, but she was extremely friendly and fun. She did GFE and DFK. I sent her on her way after we were done and the night was young, so I went to Fase Dos. All the girls were very attractive. Some can be a bit pushy. I stayed about an hour and a half. Didn't get any of the girls, but one girl started out at 600,000 for 2 hours or so and eventually went down to 200,000 for 45 minutes. I still wasn't interested and didn't get her. I then went to Gusto's. Again the girls seemed very friendly in there and I took a very beautiful 22 year old out for an hour. She charged me 450,000 pesos. Again GFE and DFK. I should have negotiated but I was very drunk at this point. We got a short time hotel, it was very very nice. It was called Ibiza Hotel I think. It was 33.00 USD for the hour.

Thank you for sharing. I think you will enjoy your visits more and more as you gain experience. You paid top dollar but more importantly, you know you paid top dollar. Probably because you took the time to RTFF. I'm looking forward to reading more.My gawd I get it that we all have much different sized wallets but what your paying for one hour, hell I get that for literally the whole night and everything goes. This is the reason I don't party anywhere near Poblado and I have my own apartment.

And the BS chica at Fase II that told you 600,000 for 2 hours is feeding you shit, it is about 200,000 on site for about an hour give or depending on how busy they are in the room.

Yes please don't fuck the pay scale up for other mongers to follow, hell not me as I have my stable of cuties that rock my world but for other guys. After all it's only pussy.

But all in all glad you had fun!

The Tall Man.

John Gault
12-23-19, 02:32
My gawd I get it that we all have much different sized wallets but what your paying for one hour, hell I get that for literally the whole night and everything goes. This is the reason I don't party anywhere near Poblado and I have my own apartment.

And the BS chica at Fase II that told you 600,000 for 2 hours is feeding you shit, it is about 200,000 on site for about an hour give or depending on how busy they are in the room.

Yes please don't fuck the pay scale up for other mongers to follow, hell not me as I have my stable of cuties that rock my world but for other guys. After all it's only pussy.

But all in all glad you had fun!

The Tall Man.Many years ago when I was just a pup I was with my father in a gambling social club we both belonged to in the US. I was sitting with him watching the action when my father pointed to a guy who was betting with both hands on everything he could get a bet on. So I asked my dad why he wanted me to watch this guy. He told me that guy hates money. I think reading about how some of these new guys overpay reminds me of that.

Sorry if that doesn't fit in with mongering, but I thought it might.

Mr Enternational
12-23-19, 03:33
Whether or not a girl asks me for something, I doubt all sob stories. Even if the story is 100% true, it's not my problem. I didn't steal your phone. I didn't make your mother sick. My name is not on the lease for the apartment where your rent is due.I am a customer. When shit happens at other places where I am a customer, they do not run to me with sob stories. McDonald's never called to tell me someone took a monster dump and stopped up the plumbing. The city bus company never called to tell me how much gas prices went up. But when a mf is a customer to buy some pussy shit can get haywire, discombobulating the vendor-customer relationship.

Mr Enternational
12-23-19, 03:37
Yes please don't fuck the pay scale up for other mongers to follow, hell not me as I have my stable of cuties that rock my world but for other guys. Not fucking me up. When I run into those chicks I will tell them that he already told me he gave her enough pesos so that both of us could hit.

Mojo Bandit
12-23-19, 06:07
Arrived last night in Medellin.

Me- Mid 30's, decent looking, tall white male. Speak almost no Spanish.

It has exceeded expectations. Visited the Mansion in Poblado. 50,000 entry fee. About 10 girls all very attractive and very friendly. I was very surprised they were not pushy at all and genuinely seemed to just want to have fun. I stayed for 2 hours and took one of them back to my hotel for an hour. She charged me 200,000, plus it was 60.00 USD fee to bring her to my room.
but one girl started out at 600,000 for 2 hours or so and eventually went down to 200,000 for 45 minutes. I still wasn't interested and didn't get her. I then went to Gusto's. Again the girls seemed very friendly in there and I took a very beautiful 22 year old out for an hour. She charged me 450,000 pesos.

I am staying in Poblado Plaza. Only a snob would not find this hotel very nice. I can safely recommend this hotel to anyone wanting to stay in Medellin. Everything has been very nice here, except they don't really speak English and the 60.00 USD fee to bring a guest to my room. The front desk kinda seemed like he didn't totally approve of me bringing a guest up, but I can see where he is coming from.

I do not think that enough guys have properly busted your balls yet, so I am going to pile on.

That $60 dollars that you paid to get the chica past the front desk at your hotel would have paid for a nice apartment in Laureles. That $60 dollars is what I paid for a hot hot chica for three hours of bareback 'everything'(because sometimes I like to remember what the inside of wet pussy feels like) and that includes her taxi and the meal we ate on a break from me trying to slam her head through the headboard. Figuratively speaking! 450,000 pesos is what you pay a chica for 24 hours of all the sex you can get into that period. 450,000 pesos is what she probably pays for rent for a month if she lives alone. 200 000 should get you a couple to three hours with a hot hot chica. 200 000 is half her rent for a month, but probably she lives with her grandmother who watches the kids so that 200 000 is going for that new Adidas sweat suit she had her eye on and some shoes and a little coca so she can stay thin looking for the next mark that wants to give her 200 000, then a handful of pesos for grandma.

I too am glad that you had a good time, but read the forum and put it in perspective and you can spend less and still have a good time without pricing out us budget shoppers who do not want to be priced out of the market.

All this information is in the forum in this thread. So you did not read the forum or you would have just told everyone what a great time you had and not mentioned what you paid for it.

Njoean197
12-23-19, 08:11
I do not think that enough guys have properly busted your balls yet, so I am going to pile on.

That $60 dollars that you paid to get the chica past the front desk at your hotel would have paid for a nice apartment in Laureles. That $60 dollars is what I paid for a hot hot chica for three hours of bareback 'everything'(because sometimes I like to remember what the inside of wet pussy feels like) and that includes her taxi and the meal we ate on a break from me trying to slam her head through the headboard. Figuratively speaking! 450,000 pesos is what you pay a chica for 24 hours of all the sex you can get into that period. 450,000 pesos is what she probably pays for rent for a month if she lives alone. 200 000 should get you a couple to three hours with a hot hot chica. 200 000 is half her rent for a month, but probably she lives with her grandmother who watches the kids so that 200 000 is going for that new Adidas sweat suit she had her eye on and some shoes and a little coca so she can stay thin looking for the next mark that wants to give her 200 000, then a handful of pesos for grandma.

I too am glad that you had a good time, but read the forum and put it in perspective and you can spend less and still have a good time without pricing out us budget shoppers who do not want to be priced out of the market.

All this information is in the forum in this thread. So you did not read the forum or you would have just told everyone what a great time you had and not mentioned what you paid for it.Sorry guys. First night in Medellin got the best of me. 'm definitely not trying to fuck prices up for anybody. Will work on negotiating prices more. Just sharing some factual information on starting prices. I know I clearly overpaid, my bad guys. Yes Medellin has been fun and I was just trying to spread the good word to anybody else sick of the daily grind in the states who is looking for a good time. Best of luck to everybody.

Vitrea
12-23-19, 08:39
Kudos for posting this. Keep the posts coming.

I know and I already see few guys giving you hard time and how you paid too much. They are correct but none of that means anything because the most important thing is you are having a great time and you will continue to have a good time with YOUR money. The girls are there to make money and you are there to have fun. Both are achieved.

Like Mr Knowledge said, it will get better and you will pay lot less for girls and stay and have the same fun. Also, the key thing to remember is Medellin has a full range of girls (in class and price) and mongers (class and money). I have been going there 4-5 times a year for 7 years and have seen it all and what one guy pays does not effect another guy because there is so much supply. Every day countless girls are turning 18 and the availability is keeping up with demand.

Cute story from Gusto. I was there with a a friend chatting up two nice looking girls that both of us would potentially take home. They ordered their drink and we ordered ours. After 5 minutes of chatting, the girls grabbed their drinks and started walking away. The conversation was quite friendly till then and we did not discuss anything about sex so I asked them why they are leaving. One girl replied in fluent English, "you speak Spanish and you know Medellin. You won't pay us what we charge because we know you can find girls for less, so why waste your time or our time? " Wow. What an insight. I appreciated her candidness and asked her how much do they charge. She replied 450,000. I told her, she is right on and wished them good night.

The point of the story is that girls know their clients like we know them. Just like how we can spot someone new to business, they can spot a newbie and take their chances at making an extra buck. If all is agreed upon ahead of time, they are not robbing and you and it is a pure business transaction that both parties are willing to partake.


Arrived last night in Medellin.

Me- Mid 30's, decent looking, tall white male. Speak almost no Spanish.

It has exceeded expectations. Visited the Mansion in Poblado. 50,000 entry fee. About 10 girls all very attractive and very friendly. I was very surprised they were not pushy at all and genuinely seemed to just want to have fun. I stayed for 2 hours and took one of them back to my hotel for an hour. She charged me 200,000, plus it was 60.00 USD fee to bring her to my room. I probably could have negotiated down, but she was extremely friendly and fun. She did GFE and DFK. I sent her on her way after we were done and the night was young, so I went to Fase Dos. All the girls were very attractive. Some can be a bit pushy. I stayed about an hour and a half. Didn't get any of the girls, but one girl started out at 600,000 for 2 hours or so and eventually went down to 200,000 for 45 minutes. I still wasn't interested and didn't get her. I then went to Gusto's. Again the girls seemed very friendly in there and I took a very beautiful 22 year old out for an hour. She charged me 450,000 pesos. Again GFE and DFK. I should have negotiated but I was very drunk at this point. We got a short time hotel, it was very very nice. It was called Ibiza Hotel I think. It was 33.00 USD for the hour.

Side Notes: Mcdonalds has surpisingly good food in Medellin LOL. I was drunk when I ate there, but it was actually very good. Uber has been a pleasure and very cheap. The cab drivers have been very professional, helpful, and understanding since I speak almost no Spanish.

I am staying in Poblado Plaza. Only a snob would not find this hotel very nice. I can safely recommend this hotel to anyone wanting to stay in Medellin. Everything has been very nice here, except they don't really speak English and the 60.00 USD fee to bring a guest to my room. The front desk kinda seemed like he didn't totally approve of me bringing a guest up, but I can see where he is coming from.

I signed up at Body Tech Gym, in case anyone is looking for a nice gym. Way too expensive. It was 80.00 USD for a month's membership and they didn't do shorter memberships. The gym itself is very nice though.

Mojo Bandit
12-23-19, 10:59
Arrived last night in Medellin.

I am staying in Poblado Plaza. Only a snob would not find this hotel very nice. I can safely recommend this hotel to anyone wanting to stay in Medellin. Everything has been very nice here, except they don't really speak English and the 60.00 USD fee to bring a guest to my room. The front desk kinda seemed like he didn't totally approve of me bringing a guest up, but I can see where he is coming from.

I signed up at Body Tech Gym, in case anyone is looking for a nice gym. Way too expensive. It was 80.00 USD for a month's membership and they didn't do shorter memberships. The gym itself is very nice though.If you get a membership to the forum and obtain Private Messaging I will tell you a very classy place to stay in Poblado where you do not have to pay to get chicas to your room, and I will even tell you how to get the chicas delivered there. From a catalog, so to speak.


Kudos for posting this. Keep the posts coming.

I know and I already see few guys giving you hard time and how you paid too much. They are correct but none of that means anything because the most important thing is you are having a great time and you will continue to have a good time with YOUR money. The girls are there to make money and you are there to have fun. Both are achieved.

Like Mr Knowledge said, it will get better and you will pay lot less for girls and stay and have the same fun. Also, the key thing to remember is Medellin has a full range of girls (in class and price) and mongers (class and money). I have been going there 4-5 times a year for 7 years and have seen it all and what one guy pays does not effect another guy because there is so much supply. Every day countless girls are turning 18 and the availability is keeping up with demand.

I stand corrected on insinuating that Njoean197 cold price us budget guys out, your experience and logic about the supply and demand on that subject make more sense than my criticism.

Mojo Bandit
12-23-19, 11:49
Arrived last night in Medellin.



Side Notes: Mcdonalds has surpisingly good food in Medellin LOL. I was drunk when I ate there, but it was actually very good. Uber has been a pleasure and very cheap. The cab drivers have been very professional, helpful, and understanding since I speak almost no Spanish.

Medellin has a lot of very good burger places that in my opinion are much better than Mcdonalds, Firehouse and Home Burgers come to mind. There is an app called Rappi that is Colombia's version of Uber Eats, Postmates, Doordash, etc. The only problem is that it is in Spanish so you my need to use Google Translator, I am not proficient in Spanish and I made it work. Its way cheap compared to say Uber Eats though and you then have a world of food at your fingertips. You will see Rappi delivery guys everywhere if you keep your eyes open.

Justin86
12-23-19, 16:12
Hey guys,

I am new to the forum and joined because I need some advice on where in Medellin I should stay at for a bachelor trip. It's about 6 to 8 guys. We are looking at where is the best places to stay, hang out and where the girls are hot, friendly and cheap. Any advice would be great. Any advice from chicas to nightlife is welcomed and much appreciated.

Surfer500
12-23-19, 16:27
Medellin has a lot of very good burger places that in my opinion are much better than Mcdonalds, Firehouse and Home Burgers come to mind. There is an app called Rappi that is Colombia's version of Uber Eats, Postmates, Doordash, etc. The only problem is that it is in Spanish so you my need to use Google Translator, I am not proficient in Spanish and I made it work. Its way cheap compared to say Uber Eats though and you then have a world of food at your fingertips. You will see Rappi delivery guys everywhere if you keep your eyes open.Actually there are portions of the Rappi App that are in English so using the App with no Spanish skills is possible. The real issue is going to be understanding all the terms used for food. And Google translator may fumble on some of them. But for simple stuff like Pasta it's pretty straight forward and the typical delivery fee is about $ 1 USD, and it's actually faster at times than going out someplace to eat. However, ordering items like french fries and other things that are best eaten right away, and or pizzas are not good choices. Probably the best items are Pasta dishes as I have had pretty good luck with those types of dishes. Typically by the time I order food via Rappi, it's at my doorstep 45 minutes later. A good choice when you don't want to go out, and as far as Burgers, there are tons of places with good burgers besides McDonalds as you mentioned.

Surfer500
12-23-19, 16:41
Sorry guys. First night in Medellin got the best of me. 'm definitely not trying to fuck prices up for anybody. Will work on negotiating prices more. Just sharing some factual information on starting prices. I know I clearly overpaid, my bad guys. Yes Medellin has been fun and I was just trying to spread the good word to anybody else sick of the daily grind in the states who is looking for a good time. Best of luck to everybody.You don't need to apologize to anybody, you were in the candy store and overwhelmed by everything. And compared to a lot of other venues in the world, what you paid would not of been exorbitant, but here as your finding out, and in great detail by the other members of this board. You cannot imagine how inexpensive pussy can be here, especially for the locals. Anyways, keep posting and don't let anybody get under your skin.

SJobs
12-23-19, 19:18
Sorry guys. First night in Medellin got the best of me. 'm definitely not trying to fuck prices up for anybody. Will work on negotiating prices more. Just sharing some factual information on starting prices. I know I clearly overpaid, my bad guys. Yes Medellin has been fun and I was just trying to spread the good word to anybody else sick of the daily grind in the states who is looking for a good time. Best of luck to everybody.Wow. You have nothing to apologize for. I can't believe this many people grilled you for simply sharing your experience. I know people who paid 60 dollars to bring girls back in their first week, once they become more informed, they found better arrangements. Try Airbnb, energy living is a pretty good place, but for me, the location is a little off, there is nothing around it (within walking distance). When you book AirBnb, make sure you look thoroughly through the house rules. You want to make sure they allow guests and there is no explicit language against sex tourism. Ideally you want a place that has a private entrance in a local neighborhood, where you can easily go downstairs to get food and booze. You can ask the Airbnb host about the entrance arrangement. Places like energy living is OK, what I don't like about it is the 24/7 door man, I normally bring back 2 to 3 girls a day and I do one to two threesome a week. It is awkward for a dude in his thirties to bring back a pair 18 year-old in the morning and another pair in the night. If you only like hotels, I stayed at hotel San Fernando in Poblado once, it is very close to Lleras. They allow you to bring chicas back for free.

As for the price you are paying, it is a bit high for one hour stay. Feel free to ask them to party with you all night, most of the girls will be happy to do anything for 500 k pesos, and if they like you, they will throw in some hot morning sex as well. During the day time, if you just want sex, give Facebook Chica a try, you can get GFE+ for 150-300 k pesos, depending the kind of service you desire. 150-200 k will get you the standard GFE, anything more than that you have to negotiate. Casas like fantasias energy (https://www.fantasiasenergy.com/?m=1&zx=a792e9f2279067ec) is also a day-time option. I have never had any good experience with casas' chicas.

JjBee62
12-23-19, 20:50
I think it needs to have a context. New comers will pay higher price, and it is location dependent. There are still far fewer mongers visiting Medellin than other popular destinations. It is hard to see the normal price increase much.People overpaying in Poblado, affects the price in Poblado. At least it affects the price right up to the point when the girl who used her last 20 k for the taxi to Parque Lleras realizes she's going to be stuck walking back to Bello.

The girl in Gusto is going to hold out for 400 k, all the way to closing time. When she's standing around, watching all the customers disappear, her price becomes a lot more negotiable.

However, the small number of girls in Lleras being overpaid by the small group of gringos doesn't change the price in the casas or on the streets of El Centro. It doesn't change the price on Facebook.

Knowledge
12-23-19, 22:18
Uber eats charges a bit more for delivery fee but I notice they service all the same restaurants as Rappi plus a few others. I recommend getting an account on both. I'm pretty sure you can change the language setting on uber eats. Check that, I haven't actually tried the language setting but I think I remember seeing the option.


Medellin has a lot of very good burger places that in my opinion are much better than Mcdonalds, Firehouse and Home Burgers come to mind. There is an app called Rappi that is Colombia's version of Uber Eats, Postmates, Doordash, etc. The only problem is that it is in Spanish so you my need to use Google Translator, I am not proficient in Spanish and I made it work. Its way cheap compared to say Uber Eats though and you then have a world of food at your fingertips. You will see Rappi delivery guys everywhere if you keep your eyes open.

Nounce
12-23-19, 23:22
I can't believe this many people grilled you for simply sharing your experience. Another way to look at it is people are sharing information so he is better informed after.

Surfer500
12-24-19, 00:46
With an early Tuesday morning departure back to the US to spend the holidays, I decided to make the most of my last day and a half. I contacted one of my El Centro Sweethearts and told her to meet me by the Veracruz Church at 5 PM on Sunday night. We walked about 100 meters and checked into our luxury suite at the Villa Real Hotel. A pretty basic room but with a fridge, mini-bar, cable TV, extra blankets / pillows, hot water, etc. So we went at it a lot throughout the night. The extra pillows came in handy as I would lay her face down on the end of the bed which was higher than normal and prop her butt up in the air and than use gravity to glide into her while holding each one of her legs with my hands. I feel sorry for the flies on the wall who witnessed all this. So I got three loads off before we departed at 10 AM. Not a beauty queen, not ugly, thin, a Colombian with a nice tight body and into it, into it, into it, very wet, like silk, and a Nympho (my type). I normally give her 150 K, but she's always such a good sport and not a problem with "morning wood" at 5 AM so I gave her an additional 30 K for her Christmas Bonus.

So later in the afternoon on Monday I thought about going back to El Centro and did so around 4 PM with the intention of only going with one of my two Blow Job Queens if they were working. These are my finishers or I guess my hired guns as when I'm totally depleted, running on fumes, these are the ones I go to as I know they will get the job done. Well as it turned out upon arriving at "ground zero" I walked by the Veracruz Church and low and behold one of my BJ Queens was out. I gave her a signal as to which Hotel she would be receiving my load in and we checked into a room. I was so tired and depleted I was wondering if she would be able to get the job done. It was very nice, I just laid back and did nothing versus laying pipe all night. I could of and should gotten a manicure while this was all going on. After about 15 minutes I told her to ratchet it up. And it kinda was like switching from high suction to maximum suction on my DYSON. Within a few minutes I popped and almost hit the ceiling and had to tell her to stop as she sucked every last drop out of me and swallowed. Anyways, I normally give her 40 K for this service which is hard to come by, or I should say a great way to come, so I gave her a 10 K Christmas Bonus.

So with four leches in twenty four hours, this old farts saddlebags are empty.

Mojo Bandit
12-24-19, 01:47
Sorry guys. First night in Medellin got the best of me. 'm definitely not trying to fuck prices up for anybody. Will work on negotiating prices more. Just sharing some factual information on starting prices. I know I clearly overpaid, my bad guys. Yes Medellin has been fun and I was just trying to spread the good word to anybody else sick of the daily grind in the states who is looking for a good time. Best of luck to everybody.You really don't have to apologize, some guys have compared Medellin to a candy store which is a fine metaphor but I think it is more like what I imagine a heroin addicts first fix must be like. When I came back in October one member PMed me and ask how it was to be home and I told him it was like coming off a cocaine high, I was broke, depressed and working on saving more money for my next fix. My next trio I am going to mix up the mongering a little and mix in some time in El Centro to really budget shop. As I mentioned before if you get a membership then you get Private Messaging and I will gladly send you information that will help you save money.

JjBee62
12-24-19, 02:50
Actually there are portions of the Rappi App that are in English so using the App with no Spanish skills is possible. The real issue is going to be understanding all the terms used for food. And Google translator may fumble on some of them. But for simple stuff like Pasta it's pretty straight forward and the typical delivery fee is about $ 1 USD, and it's actually faster at times than going out someplace to eat. However, ordering items like french fries and other things that are best eaten right away, and or pizzas are not good choices. Probably the best items are Pasta dishes as I have had pretty good luck with those types of dishes. Typically by the time I order food via Rappi, it's at my doorstep 45 minutes later. A good choice when you don't want to go out, and as far as Burgers, there are tons of places with good burgers besides McDonalds as you mentioned.Domicilios is another app for delivery. Probably mostly the same restaurants as Rappi. One of the nice things about it, it will ask how much you're paying, so the delivery driver will bring the correct change.

I'm not sure about Rappi, but Domicilios and at least one other delivery app allow you to order from liquor stores and pharmacies. You can hit a girl on WhatsApp to come see you, then use the app to order food, booze, Viagra and condoms.

PdSuave
12-24-19, 15:18
For those of you (I will hope to be one as well next year) that play with the Vennies in El Centro, are you mostly just bringing them back to your room via taxi / uber? I guess my main question is, if staying in Laureles Airbnb, do you guys just go poach and bring them back to your room? Or do these chicas have little setups somewhere there? Sorry for the ignorance. I've only stayed in Poblado which is a good distance from El Centro. I hoping to sample some of this discounted puta in the coming year.

As always, the perspective I get from you guys on this board is off the charts. Thanks.

Surfer500
12-24-19, 17:27
Domicilios is another app for delivery. Probably mostly the same restaurants as Rappi. One of the nice things about it, it will ask how much you're paying, so the delivery driver will bring the correct change.

I'm not sure about Rappi, but Domicilios and at least one other delivery app allow you to order from liquor stores and pharmacies. You can hit a girl on WhatsApp to come see you, then use the app to order food, booze, Viagra and condoms.Rappi does not deal in cash, it's all by credit card. They represent everyone including markets, liquor stores, and pharmacies. If you go in the EXITO in Poblado you will see Rappi employees filling orders. And it's just like UBER in that you get alerts when the orders have been filled and a live tracking of the delivery. I don't know anything about Domicillos but I think Rappi is much larger.

Turgid
12-24-19, 18:31
.......... I would lay her face down on the end of the bed which was higher than normal and prop her butt up in the air and than use gravity to glide into her while holding each one of her legs with my hands. I feel sorry for the flies on the wall who witnessed all this. So I got three loads off before we departed at 10 AM. Not a beauty queen, not ugly, thin, a Colombian with a nice tight body and into it, into it, into it, very wet, like silk, and a Nympho (my type). I normally give her 150 K, but she's always such a good sport and not a problem with "morning wood" at 5 AM so I gave her an additional 30 K for her Christmas Bonus............Damn Surf you're a regular Santa Claus, the only difference being you fill up your stockings rather than the girl's. I once did a position similar to the one you described with a US babe and she called me a sex maniac.

Colbert1
12-24-19, 19:04
Rappi does not deal in cash, it's all by credit card. They represent everyone including markets, liquor stores, and pharmacies. If you go in the EXITO in Poblado you will see Rappi employees filling orders. And it's just like UBER in that you get alerts when the orders have been filled and a live tracking of the delivery. I don't know anything about Domicillos but I think Rappi is much larger.Umm, that is not correct. I have used Rappi in both Bogota and Cali and my girlfriend has always paid in cash.

GeneHickman
12-24-19, 21:52
Rappi does not deal in cash, it's all by credit card. They represent everyone including markets, liquor stores, and pharmacies. If you go in the EXITO in Poblado you will see Rappi employees filling orders. And it's just like UBER in that you get alerts when the orders have been filled and a live tracking of the delivery. I don't know anything about Domicillos but I think Rappi is much larger.Are you saying you can get ED meds. With rappi? Have not tried that but would if that is a possibility.

Mlatimudan
12-24-19, 23:38
I'd be perfectly happy to have a "novia temporal" that stays / travels with me for two weeks while I explore the country in mid February.

Is there any reasonable way to arrange this beforehand?

The first sex I have with any girl, free or paid, is always bad but after the initial tension passes, the next and subsequent times are amazing and I can then really shine. I mean, I'll cum in any case, but I really like to please my girl when I fuck her and this sort of arrangement would be great for me. It's an ego thing I guess. She's having a good time because of ME and MY skills.


Yeah I'm sure that would be the case.

But it entailed them living with me which was a no go zone.

I know guys that pay 2 million COP a month and you can get a surprisingly got chick at that price They cook and clean but they are still with you 24/7.

Mojo Bandit
12-25-19, 00:18
Are you saying you can get ED meds. With rappi? Have not tried that but would if that is a possibility.I was told, did not experience it nor try to order anything but food (my breakfast was $5 delivered, eggs, wedge of some type cheese, bacon, arepa, orange juice and coffee). But again I was told Rappi would deliver anything, including cash from ATM, or that jacket your chica left in your apartment. I too saw them filling orders in the Carulla near my apartment. I was tempted to try it but figured it took more time and planning than food.

Nounce
12-25-19, 00:54
Or do these chicas have little setups somewhere there? Sorry for the ignorance. I've only stayed in Poblado which is a good distance from El Centro. The chicas will take you to short time room near by. It you want cheap sex, that is the way to do it.

You can look up JjBee62 's recent post for a better detail reply.

Mr Enternational
12-25-19, 01:13
I'd be perfectly happy to have a "novia temporal" that stays / travels with me for two weeks while I explore the country in mid February.Get online and meet a normal chick. Don't really know who will do it when you tell them you only want a temporary thing though. You might have to find a hooker if you make that known.

I'm going to San Andres next month with a college student from Barranquilla. I put her in charge of finding accommodations for us. I told her I will give her 300K per day to pay for the room and whatever is left she can keep.

PdSuave
12-25-19, 02:19
The chicas will take you to short time room near by. It you want cheap sex, that is the way to do it.

You can look up JjBee62 's recent post for a better detail reply.I found a few of his reports that touched on this, Thanks! Last thing I want to do is clog this page with redundant questions! Thanks again.

GeneHickman
12-25-19, 02:28
Get online and meet a normal chick. Don't really know who will do it when you tell them you only want a temporary thing though. You might have to find a hooker if you make that known.

I'm going to San Andres next month with a college student from Barranquilla. I put her in charge of finding accommodations for us. I told her I will give her 300K per day to pay for the room and whatever is left she can keep.The risk with that is you might find yourself staying in a pretty crappy motel. Unless you are cool with that.

Mr Enternational
12-25-19, 04:13
The risk with that is you might find yourself staying in a pretty crappy motel. Unless you are cool with that.I told her the criteria and taught her to read the reviews. But I stay in nice hotels all the time so no big deal to me. Remember the one I stay in in downtown Medellin is only $13, so I don't require too much.

Mojo Bandit
12-25-19, 04:36
I'd be perfectly happy to have a "novia temporal" that stays / travels with me for two weeks while I explore the country in mid February.

Is there any reasonable way to arrange this beforehand?

The first sex I have with any girl, free or paid, is always bad but after the initial tension passes, the next and subsequent times are amazing and I can then really shine. I mean, I'll cum in any case, but I really like to please my girl when I fuck her and this sort of arrangement would be great for me. It's an ego thing I guess. She's having a good time because of ME and MY skills.


Get online and meet a normal chick. Don't really know who will do it when you tell them you only want a temporary thing though. You might have to find a hooker if you make that known.

I'm going to San Andres next month with a college student from Barranquilla. I put her in charge of finding accommodations for us. I told her I will give her 300K per day to pay for the room and whatever is left she can keep.I just want to add to what Mr E was telling you. I have been obsessed with fucking latina chicas for some time now and there was a time when I was younger that I could get away with it for free in places like Mexico city and the Yucatan but eventually I started running into the semi-pro types. I used to work the hell out of the Cupid Dot Coms, Latinamerican and Colombian Cupid Dot Coms. It takes a lot of conversing online, but the semi-pro types are on there as well as the pros. This last trip to Colombia I gave it a try and there were a few that I talked to that were obvious semi-pros. I even had a couple of younger chicas that were smoking hot, one in Cartagena and one in Medellin, that I talked to for a few weeks but eventually I got around to the "I am only looking for temporary romance" line and they were pissed. Others though that I told that "I am looking for temporary companionship with someone who I can help pay some bills" and they were receptive. The thing about the cupids is that there is every type of chica there, many of them are straight up looking for husbands for them and fathers for their children. Some are straight up con artists who will hit you up for Western Union transfer after a couple of conversations. So you have to weed though all this to find the goldilocks chica that is just right for what you are looking for. I have had to talk to three and four and one time and since I am not fluent in spanish, that means a lot of copy and paste, copy and paste from Google Translate to the Cupid chat box.

The only other way to do it is. Face book, and that is also a lot of work also because you still have to find them, sift through the straight pros who are going to want to over charge you (some are going to ask 400 k COP per day. I would not think of paying them more than 150 K per day for an arrangement like that) to find that semi pro who is either childless or has a strong enough support system at home to leave her child to travel with you. If you had a Private Message box on here, I could help you with the FB thing, but you are still going to have to put a lot of time into building a list to find he right one and communicating what you want from them.

TimeKeeper281
12-25-19, 08:00
Bottom line Rappi is the shit. I was sick in November and thank god I could just get cold medicine delivered. Also uber eats is legit as well.

JjBee62
12-25-19, 10:30
I just want to add to what Mr E was telling you. I have been obsessed with fucking latina chicas for some time now and there was a time when I was younger that I could get away with it for free in places like Mexico city and the Yucatan but eventually I started running into the semi-pro types. I used to work the hell out of the Cupid Dot Coms, Latinamerican and Colombian Cupid Dot Coms. It takes a lot of conversing online, but the semi-pro types are on there as well as the pros. This last trip to Colombia I gave it a try and there were a few that I talked to that were obvious semi-pros. I even had a couple of younger chicas that were smoking hot, one in Cartagena and one in Medellin, that I talked to for a few weeks but eventually I got around to the "I am only looking for temporary romance" line and they were pissed. Others though that I told that "I am looking for temporary companionship with someone who I can help pay some bills" and they were receptive. The thing about the cupids is that there is every type of chica there, many of them are straight up looking for husbands for them and fathers for their children. Some are straight up con artists who will hit you up for Western Union transfer after a couple of conversations. So you have to weed though all this to find the goldilocks chica that is just right for what you are looking for. I have had to talk to three and four and one time and since I am not fluent in spanish, that means a lot of copy and paste, copy and paste from Google Translate to the Cupid chat box..The difficult part is figuring out which one is going to be a winner and which one is going to be a big mistake.

There are plenty of girls who'll agree to whatever his plans are, but have no intention in anything more than a 1 hour cita. There are others who will agree to the terms and after the first hour want a much better deal. There are starfish and scam artists and every other imaginable problem type.

And there are girls who will travel with him and make him feel like a king every day. I'd put my own chances of picking a winner, picking from girls I haven't met yet, at under 50%. And many of these girls I've been following their social media for over 2 years.

If planning on 2 weeks of traveling around Colombia, I'd plan the first 3 or 4 days in Medellin. Start making contacts, figure out which seem like good prospects and take them for a test drive before committing to something longer. If you can't set up the deal, hit them up for contacts. If you're heading to Armenia or Manizales, ask if she has any friends who would like to meet you. Or if the girl you want isn't available to travel, get her to check with her local friends.

Mlatimudan
12-25-19, 12:07
At MrEnternational and at Mojo Bandit:

Thank you for your general advice. Once I sort out this bitcoin thing I'll get a subscription and get back to you via PM.

While I get around to that, it's the cupids and / or facebook? Any other networks?

My Spanish is okay-ish. I was fine in Venezuela 3 years ago with it so I imagine I could hold my own in a simple enough type of conversation.

NormalAsianKid
12-25-19, 16:17
Hi everyone,

I've been reading for a bit and planning a trip to Medellin 1/12-1/20 ish. I want to try to do as much as I can while I'm here and from what I've read, I'm thinking I should split my stay in half at the mansion and half at an airBnB (the 2 I've heard are Energy Living and Blux, I'm hoping to bring multiple girls back without an issue during the day. Any suggestions?) I will definitely hit up fase dos and gustos during my trip but I see some of you are saying that I could get a girl to stay with me for a day for 300-500 k. I'the love to have that experience as well if someone can give me any recommendations on how to get that set up. I'the also love to try out the Facebook scene but am not sure if I have enough time to build up contacts when I'm this far out.

I'm thinking of getting a subscription to be able to access the maps and links page and for private messaging. Does anyone know if that is worth it? Also, if there are any experienced members that will be in town while I am there, I will happily pay for a round or two (of drinks and chicks) in appreciation for you if you'the be willing to show me the ropes and how to get the good deals.

Thanks in Advance.

Fun Luvr
12-25-19, 17:33
Uber eats charges a bit more for delivery fee but I notice they service all the same restaurants as Rappi plus a few others. I recommend getting an account on both. I'm pretty sure you can change the language setting on uber eats. Check that, I haven't actually tried the language setting but I think I remember seeing the option.A problem with Uber Eats (and maybe all the delivery services) is the monetary limit of what you can order. I think it is 25 mil. I know it is not enough to order two hamburger combos.

Mr Enternational
12-25-19, 20:24
While I get around to that, it's the cupids and / or facebook? Any other networks?I have been a Cupid man for almost 15 years. I don't get any pay chicks from there though, just normal ones. I am sure there are probably ones for pay or whatever but I tend to weed those out instantly. For instance I was talking to a chick from Cali the other day who works in a salon. I asked her about traveling. She asked where I wanted to go.

I told her we could go to Bmanga. She started acting like Bmanga was not good enough for her, whereas other chicks have said they would love to go. So I stopped talking to her. Here is her picture from Punta Cana that she sent me.

Nounce
12-25-19, 21:27
I'm thinking of getting a subscription to be able to access the maps and links page and for private messaging. Does anyone know if that is worth it? Also, if there are any experienced members that will be in town while I am there, I will happily pay for a round or two (of drinks and chicks) in appreciation for you if you'the be willing to show me the ropes and how to get the good deals.

Thanks in Advance.It's worth it for being able to make contact with other members. It is the same situation like that you are willing to pay for people showing you around which could cost much more.

ChuchoLoco
12-25-19, 23:01
What can anyone tell me about Sabaneta? Seems like a very mellow and more old time Colombia. I guess what matters most to me is: how close to Medellin and is there Metro connection, getting older so health care availability is important, still like to enjoy the chicas so any mongering or better yet possibilities to meet regular girls / women? My Spanish is good enough to get by. I'm sure plenty of accommodations but nice to know about Apts, don't need tons of action but don't want to get bored and lastly is it flat so easy walking?

I like Lauereles / Estadio and Belen next door but would like to try someplace new.

Thanks in advance!

Njoean197
12-25-19, 23:38
Saturday Night 12/21/19: Spent most of the night in Parque Lleras. Drank at Patrick's Pub to start the night out. Then walked Parque Lleras for a bit. Was cat-called by a few SWs, one even grabbed me. It wasn't too annoying, but they can be slightly pushy I suppose. Was also appraoched by some street venders, again only slightly annoying. I spent about an hour in a regular club in Parque Lleras. Forget the name of the place. Made some eye contact, but due to limited Spanish I couldn't pull anything off. Called an escort off Mireticulous using whatsapp. She came and picked me up in Parque Lleras and took me to her hotel she was renting. We used UBER. She was about 90% as hot as she was in her pictures. I was pleased, overall a solid 8/10. Only wanted 100 mil pesos for an hour. We ended up spending a few hours together. She was great, did everything I want. I planned on visiting more places Saturday, but got tied up with her. Oh well no big deal.

Sunday 12/22/19: Was very exhausted from a long weekend, so I just stayed in. Called the girl I met at the mansion Friday and she came over and spent a few hours with me. Again was a very good time and I was really happy with the service. These girls really genuinely seem to like their customers and def want to get off as much as you do. She brought over a huge purple vibrater. Charged me 200 mil pesos for a few hours. Again I probably could have negotiated lower, but I spent 40,000 pesos on dinner at McDonalds. For the price of a few cheeseburgers I had a great time with a smoke show 22 year old. I also texted the girl I met at Gustos Friday and she wouldn't budge off 150 USD to come over for a few hours. I was very surprised she stood her ground. I can only assume she has multiple clients willing to pay that rate.

Monday: Parque Lleras again. Parque Lleras may be a tourist trap, but its a very fun tourist trap and anyone here for just a few days can have a great time there. Again warmed up at Patricks and then strolled the Park. Met two Venezuelan SWs, both very beautiful, I would give them a solid 8/10. They wanted 300,000 pesos total to party all night. We went to another bar, sorry forget the name and then we went to Gustos. Gustos was very fun and these girls were a great time. Again they seemed to really enjoy themselves and being in Gustos. I know Gusto's is expensive, but if you have the budget there are some very beautiful woman in there. I also noticed guys clearly in their late 50's with the most beautiful woman in their having a great time. I suppose they had the budget for the hottest girls. The girl's that couldn't score a guy in there seemed to be antsy too. Total reversal of the American bar scene. Even though the two I was with were beautiful, they were actually in the bottom half of attractive woman once I entered Gustos and this was a Monday night. I actually kinda regretted picking them up so early. They were still really fun though, so no real regrets.

Probably going to take it easy until Thursday, but so far Medellin has been a blast and I just wanted to post some information for anyone else debating whether or not they should come. I was really on the fence about investing the time and money into this trip, but after reading the forum I decided to come. Really happy I did and I am also very appreciative for the all the information I got off the forum.

Fun Luvr
12-25-19, 23:55
... I've been reading for a bit and planning a trip to Medellin 1/12-1/20 ish. I'd also love to try out the Facebook scene but am not sure if I have enough time to build up contacts when I'm this far out. ...You have enough time. Do a search on this thread for "Facebook". You will get some hints as to how to start. I will give you one chica that has her friends visible - https://www.facebook.com/mariana.ripoll.9231. You will notice almost all her friends are gringos. Look at their friends. When you see a chica you like that lives in Medellin or Bello or Envigado, send her a friend request. Only send a few each day. If you send too many, Facebook will shut you down. If you get a message from Facebook that says something like "Only send friend requests to people you know", I think that is a hint to stop sending requests. You will have better results if you use a real picture in your profile. Put yourself in the chica's shoes; if the person who shows up is not the person in the picture, are you going to be happy?

Mlatimudan
12-26-19, 00:40
OMFG!

She's fucking amazing!

Did your communication resume?


I have been a Cupid man for almost 15 years. I don't get any pay chicks from there though, just normal ones. I am sure there are probably ones for pay or whatever but I tend to weed those out instantly. For instance I was talking to a chick from Cali the other day who works in a salon. I asked her about traveling. She asked where I wanted to go.

I told her we could go to Bmanga. She started acting like Bmanga was not good enough for her, whereas other chicks have said they would love to go. So I stopped talking to her. Here is her picture from Punta Cana that she sent me.

Mlatimudan
12-26-19, 00:41
Thanks for this man.


The difficult part is figuring out which one is going to be a winner and which one is going to be a big mistake.

There are plenty of girls who'll agree to whatever his plans are, but have no intention in anything more than a 1 hour cita. There are others who will agree to the terms and after the first hour want a much better deal. There are starfish and scam artists and every other imaginable problem type.

And there are girls who will travel with him and make him feel like a king every day. I'd put my own chances of picking a winner, picking from girls I haven't met yet, at under 50%. And many of these girls I've been following their social media for over 2 years.

If planning on 2 weeks of traveling around Colombia, I'd plan the first 3 or 4 days in Medellin. Start making contacts, figure out which seem like good prospects and take them for a test drive before committing to something longer. If you can't set up the deal, hit them up for contacts. If you're heading to Armenia or Manizales, ask if she has any friends who would like to meet you. Or if the girl you want isn't available to travel, get her to check with her local friends.

Junior11
12-26-19, 02:29
Do you mean you invite girls from "casas and strip clubs" to your apartment? I guess that is safer because you know where they work, unlike a random Tinder girl.

Sorry about my simple question, a total newbie is here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP8HC-UBfGE

I'm not sure if you guys watched this video on this guy who got robbed by a girl he met on tinder but I think you all need to watch it.

Cliffs on the story:

- Gringo meets girl on tinder.

- Girl drugs and robs man.

- The following day the girl and her team breaks into all the rooms of the Airbnb and steals multiple items from multiple people.

- Guy does investigative work, gets police involved, he gets back his ID's & credit / debit cards but the perpetrators don't get arrested, the police gives him some crappy excuse and I can only assume they paid off the police.

Stories like this is why I stick to casas and strip clubs.

Mojo Bandit
12-26-19, 05:06
Saturday Night 12/21/19:

Probably going to take it easy until Thursday, but so far Medellin has been a blast and I just wanted to post some information for anyone else debating whether or not they should come. I was really on the fence about investing the time and money into this trip, but after reading the forum I decided to come. Really happy I did and I am also very appreciative for the all the information I got off the forum.Thank you for the report. I experienced a couple of pushy ones in Lleras, one was especially annoying. I had just spotted a beautiful one sitting alone and went to sit next to her to chat and negotiate, when one who I had already turned down. She was maybe a 6 or 7 at best. She starts harassing me, at first I am just saying "no puedo" and " No puedo, soy demasiado viejo"I telling her the half truth, she kept on so I tell her in my sad broken spanish very loudly in this crowded public place as you know Lleras is " I am in my fifties and I can only do so much in a day and I already had sex three times today, I can't do it again. " With just slight bit of irritation in my voice. She turned to walk away. As soon as she turned her back I turned to the chica I had went to sit next to and asked "Estas Trabajando?" (are you working) she nodded yes, I said "Vamonos". I think the chica that was harassing might have guessed that I was going for the hotter chica and tried to essentially cock block me.

I had posted a photo of the chica I ended up leaving with back in October and some members send me a PM for her contact info. Recently I tried to contact her and the number I had been communicating with her on whatsapp must not be working because those little checks in the messages show they have not even been delivered to her phone. She had also hesitantly sent me a friend request on FB, even though she does not use that for working and she was adamant that I show her that only mutual friends could see each other on my account. Now her FB account is not even active. Makes me wonder what happened.

Mojo Bandit
12-26-19, 05:14
I'the also love to try out the Facebook scene but am not sure if I have enough time to build up contacts when I'm this far out.

I'm thinking of getting a subscription to be able to access the maps and links page and for private messaging. Does anyone know if that is worth it? Also, if there are any experienced members that will be in town while I am there, I will happily pay for a round or two (of drinks and chicks) in appreciation for you if you'the be willing to show me the ropes and how to get the good deals.

Thanks in Advance.Fun Luvr gave you a good tip there, that is like the Who's Who of mongers on that profile. LOL If you get a membership and get private messaging, send me a message and I will seed you with some FB profiles also. One thing to keep in mind too is that if the do not respond right away to your friend requests, you can also add them on FB Messenger and try to communicate, this has worked for me a few times in the past. It probably has not worked more than it has but it is definitely worth a try.

NormalAsianKid
12-26-19, 08:29
Thanks for the advice Mojo Bandit and Fun Luvr. You convinced me it's worth it to get a subscription. I will message you once it activates and look forward to sharing my adventures.

Balboa
12-26-19, 09:26
Thank you for the report. I experienced a couple of pushy ones in Lleras, one was especially annoying. I had just spotted a beautiful one sitting alone and went to sit next to her to chat and negotiate, when one who I had already turned down. She was maybe a 6 or 7 at best. She starts harassing me, at first I am just saying "no puedo" and " No puedo, soy demasiado viejo"I telling her the half truth, she kept on so I tell her in my sad broken spanish very loudly in this crowded public place as you know Lleras is " I am in my fifties and I can only do so much in a day and I already had sex three times today, I can't do it again. " With just slight bit of irritation in my voice. She turned to walk away. As soon as she turned her back I turned to the chica I had went to sit next to and asked "Estas Trabajando?" (are you working) she nodded yes, I said "Vamonos". I think the chica that was harassing might have guessed that I was going for the hotter chica and tried to essentially cock block me.

I had posted a photo of the chica I ended up leaving with back in October and some members send me a PM for her contact info. Recently I tried to contact her and the number I had been communicating with her on whatsapp must not be working because those little checks in the messages show they have not even been delivered to her phone. She had also hesitantly sent me a friend request on FB, even though she does not use that for working and she was adamant that I show her that only mutual friends could see each other on my account. Now her FB account is not even active. Makes me wonder what happened.Speaking of pushy Lleras chicas, I had an incident with one a couple months ago as well.

A buddy and I decided to do a recon of Parque Lleras on a Friday night.

There were a fair amount of chicas walking about the park and the surrounding streets.

Some OK looking, some not so good and a few very nice ones.

Most of the girls were walking about in small groups of 2 or 3.

Anyway, a little hottie broke away from her pack and came and sat next to me on a little bench I was sitting on.

We were just chatting away a bit, flirting, negotiating in a fun way, etc.

After about 10 minutes another girl in her group of 3, who turns out to be the "leader" of her group, approaches us and demands to know if I'm going to go with her friend.

I tell her "tranquilo", we're talking, etc. She, the "leader" then demands 100 dollars from me for talking to her friend.

I laugh and wave her off.

She gets louder and aggressive and tells me to pay up.

I tell her to go away, leave me alone, and that I'm not an idiot.

She then tells me that she's got a knife in her purse.

I tell her that I've got one too (which I didn't), however, she was not even close to me, her knife was not visible, I had plenty of escape paths away from her, and lots of police were around.

I believe it was an idle threat, however, when I got verbally forceful as well she backed down, called me some vulgar names, ordered her friend to leave me, and they left.

I told the pretty and sweet one sitting with me that it was too bad that she chose such bad, loud, and aggressive friends like that.

She just kind of nodded at me.

My buddy and I walked about a little more, saw that particular group of girls walking around too.

We just avoided eachother.

I believe that aggressive one has probably gotten her way with some money from some less experienced foreigners in the past, and that's her gig.

She just gets aggressive, loud and threatens, but goes away if you call her bluff.

Most girls are cool and OK, but of course there are those other kind, like the one I ran into.

JjBee62
12-26-19, 11:39
A problem with Uber Eats (and maybe all the delivery services) is the monetary limit of what you can order. I think it is 25 mil. I know it is not enough to order two hamburger combos.Never ran into a limit with Domicilios. I know I had a few orders of 50 k and more.

JjBee62
12-26-19, 11:50
What can anyone tell me about Sabaneta? Seems like a very mellow and more old time Colombia. I guess what matters most to me is: how close to Medellin and is there Metro connection, getting older so health care availability is important, still like to enjoy the chicas so any mongering or better yet possibilities to meet regular girls / women? My Spanish is good enough to get by. I'm sure plenty of accommodations but nice to know about Apts, don't need tons of action but don't want to get bored and lastly is it flat so easy walking?

I like Lauereles / Estadio and Belen next door but would like to try someplace new.

Thanks in advance!Sabaneta, close to the Metro stations, Itagui and Sabaneta, is reasonably flat, otherwise it's got some vicious hills going up to the east.

By Metro you're only 10 minutes away from Poblado and under 20 minutes away from El Centro.

Much of Sabaneta is new development, lots of high rises. Two of the largest malls in South America are in the area. Mayorca Mega Plaza at the Itagui metro station and the new Viva plaza at the Envigado station.

I didn't explore too much while I was there, because of the hills and my schedule was full, but there should be opportunities to meet regular girls. I'm not aware of any mongering opportunities.

MilkDog08
12-26-19, 15:34
I came to Cali in November and loved it (see report). Now I'm considering Medellin, San Salvador or Quito for the January MLK trip. Should I go to Medellín or try San Salvador. Tom Jackin seems to travel lots anyone have any recommendations where I should go over the other.

MarquisdeSade1
12-26-19, 16:48
The difficult part is figuring out which one is going to be a winner and which one is going to be a big mistake.

There are plenty of girls who'll agree to whatever his plans are, but have no intention in anything more than a 1 hour cita. There are others who will agree to the terms and after the first hour want a much better deal. There are starfish and scam artists and every other imaginable problem type.

And there are girls who will travel with him and make him feel like a king every day. I'd put my own chances of picking a winner, picking from girls I haven't met yet, at under 50%. And many of these girls I've been following their social media for over 2 years.

If planning on 2 weeks of traveling around Colombia, I'd plan the first 3 or 4 days in Medellin. Start making contacts, figure out which seem like good prospects and take them for a test drive before committing to something longer. If you can't set up the deal, hit them up for contacts. If you're heading to Armenia or Manizales, ask if she has any friends who would like to meet you. Or if the girl you want isn't available to travel, get her to check with her local friends.

Or like Forest Gumps Momma used to say.

"life (mongering) is like a box of chocolates".

Maybe an STD? Maybe a psycho with a knife? Or an angel sent from the heavens LOL or all 3 in 1 LMAO.

Surfer500
12-26-19, 22:42
Speaking of pushy Lleras chicas, I had an incident with one a couple months ago as well.

A buddy and I decided to do a recon of Parque Lleras on a Friday night.

There were a fair amount of chicas walking about the park and the surrounding streets.

Some OK looking, some not so good and a few very nice ones.

Most of the girls were walking about in small groups of 2 or 3.

Anyway, a little hottie broke away from her pack and came and sat next to me on a little bench I was sitting on.

We were just chatting away a bit, flirting, negotiating in a fun way, etc.

After about 10 minutes another girl in her group of 3, who turns out to be the "leader" of her group, approaches us and demands to know if I'm going to go with her friend.

I tell her "tranquilo", we're talking, etc. She, the "leader" then demands 100 dollars from me for talking to her friend...Interesting that a girl would threaten you with having a knife on her if you didn't pay up in Parque Lleras on a Friday night with all kinds of people around and the Police. An obvious stunt for sure as she has pulled this off before and gotten away with it or she wouldn't of tried it in the first place. I perhaps would of called her bluff in a different way, although it wouldn't of made any difference but perhaps would of frightened her from trying this stunt again, but I doubt it. Instead of telling her I had a knife as well, I would of said to her to get away immediately or I am going to start screaming at the top of my lungs (ayudame), and when the police come over, I will tell them that you said that you had a knife with you, and that if I didn't pay you $ 100 you were going to attack me. Amazing that this girl tried that stunt in Parque Lleras, but not surprising.

ChuchoLoco
12-26-19, 23:04
Sabaneta, close to the Metro stations, Itagui and Sabaneta, is reasonably flat, otherwise it's got some vicious hills going up to the east.

By Metro you're only 10 minutes away from Poblado and under 20 minutes away from El Centro.

Much of Sabaneta is new development, lots of high rises. Two of the largest malls in South America are in the area. Mayorca Mega Plaza at the Itagui metro station and the new Viva plaza at the Envigado station.

I didn't explore too much while I was there, because of the hills and my schedule was full, but there should be opportunities to meet regular girls. I'm not aware of any mongering opportunities.Thanks JjBee, perfect answer. I was hoping for more single family and all flat but it seems to be the new apartment place. That's ok and I'll check it out in February. If all that new development is going on, it must be very safe and smart money headed that way. Easy to get to is a big plus. Thanks again!

Manizales911
12-27-19, 01:19
I'm thinking of getting a subscription to be able to access the maps and links page and for private messaging. Does anyone know if that is worth it?Is it worth it, dude it costs 20 bucks a YEAR, you've got to be the cheapest SOB on the planet, seriously?

MillerTime 55
12-27-19, 01:27
Is it worth it, dude it costs 20 bucks a YEAR, you've got to be the cheapest SOB on the planet, seriously?Its a no brain er if you serious, otherwise take your $20 get a hair cut.

Franga
12-27-19, 02:57
Is it worth it, dude it costs 20 bucks a YEAR, you've got to be the cheapest SOB on the planet, seriously?Unfortunately inflation is still with us. Now it costs 25 Donald Trump dollars.

The Tall Man
12-27-19, 04:46
The difficult part is figuring out which one is going to be a winner and which one is going to be a big mistake.

There are plenty of girls who'll agree to whatever his plans are, but have no intention in anything more than a 1 hour cita. There are others who will agree to the terms and after the first hour want a much better deal. There are starfish and scam artists and every other imaginable problem type.

And there are girls who will travel with him and make him feel like a king every day. I'd put my own chances of picking a winner, picking from girls I haven't met yet, at under 50%. And many of these girls I've been following their social media for over 2 years.

If planning on 2 weeks of traveling around Colombia, I'd plan the first 3 or 4 days in Medellin. Start making contacts, figure out which seem like good prospects and take them for a test drive before committing to something longer. If you can't set up the deal, hit them up for contacts. If you're heading to Armenia or Manizales, ask if she has any friends who would like to meet you. Or if the girl you want isn't available to travel, get her to check with her local friends.

Or like Forest Gumps Momma used to say.

"life (mongering) is like a box of chocolates".

Maybe an STD? Maybe a psycho with a knife? Or an angel sent from the heavens LOL or all 3 in 1 LMAO.Guys I will save you a great deal of hassle and resentment with taking girls on anything longer than a night with out knowing them before, never ever take them without having sessioned with them at least 2 or 3 times AND spending time on other stuff with them.

Trust me that you just don't want the hassle.

In the past two years I have taken different girls from Medellin traveling to Cartagena, Barranquilla, Bucarmaranga, Bogota, Villa de Leya, etc. , from a few days to two weeks, some repeats, some allowing them to invite their girl friends, these all turned out better than expected BUT in every one of these I got to know the girls, have spent nights and days with them, been to overnight fincas with them, invited them to my apartment and over a course of like 2 to 5 months decided that I can trust them.

My next trip with a paisa chica is in planning now for after the New Year.

Just be smart and have fun!

The Tall Man.

TopoChico571
12-27-19, 09:50
What are my options now?

Surfer500
12-27-19, 18:41
Guys I will save you a great deal of hassle and resentment with taking girls on anything longer than a night with out knowing them before, never ever take them without having sessioned with them at least 2 or 3 times AND spending time on other stuff with them.

Trust me that you just don't want the hassle.

In the past two years I have taken different girls from Medellin traveling to Cartagena, Barranquilla, Bucarmaranga, Bogota, Villa de Leya, etc. , from a few days to two weeks, some repeats, some allowing them to invite their girl friends, these all turned out better than expected BUT in every one of these I got to know the girls, have spent nights and days with them, been to overnight fincas with them, invited them to my apartment and over a course of like 2 to 5 months decided that I can trust them.

My next trip with a paisa chica is in planning now for after the New Year.

Just be smart and have fun!

The Tall Man.Rock solid and sound advice as always Tall Man. You, and a very few others on this board have a stable of Chicas that have been totally vetted and make good travelling companions besides just having sex.

Unfortunately, the odds of a guy showing up in Medellin and within a few days identifying one or more Chicas to travel around the Country with that they are going to have an awesome time with are very slim, almost like a "wet dream" .

FortuneWaffers
12-27-19, 19:12
Don't go chasing other people's experiences. That is the quickest way to be let down. Create your own experiences. Remember Your Mileage May Vary. Just because Travis McGee was able to climb into the cockpit of an F-22, hit the afterburners, and hotdog it around, does not mean you are going to be able to do the same thing. You might not even be able to get the canopy closed.Just for the record, I took that F-22 and flew that shit to the edge of space.

SpiderRider
12-27-19, 19:20
Lets break away from all this useless blathering and conjecture I've been reading here. In short, if you're poorly capable of discerning decent people from persons of malice, you're going to suffer in all area of life, not just here.

Does Anyone know of a short time hotel set up for light bondage? . There's a chica (or 2) that has need for a little attitude adjustment.

John Clayton
12-27-19, 21:29
Mojo Bandit:

Clear your inbox. (why is the inbox limit so small?

BlueBudgie
12-27-19, 22:00
PolloNegro threw me a hell of a bone with the whatsapp of a sweet vennie, very motivated young lady. Kept her most of my trip.

Also sessioned with a paisa FB chica who was real sweet and spoke excellent English, a bit lazy though. Thicc. TLN, more expensive than VEN but I could talk with her which was nice.

Two more FB girls.

One I got a reference here from another member that turned out to be a dud. Homegirl was super busted.

Another one I just found at random and she was hot but without saying anything she pulled out a glue bottle and started sniffing while I was fuckin her doggy. Guess she was pretty bored LOL. Asked me if I wanted a sniff LOL. I busted quick, showed her the door and washed my balls extra long.

Did not pick up a single street girl as my Spanish suckssss and it was my first time in Medellin. I saw plenty of them though.

Watch out for the cops in this town they are worse than the criminals.

Is dental hygiene not a big thing here because all 4 of these broads had rough breath, and on the TLNs I didn't see one tooth get brushed.

Mojo Bandit
12-28-19, 00:31
Mojo Bandit:

Clear your inbox. (why is the inbox limit so small?Cleared inbox, sorry about that.

DramaFree11
12-28-19, 01:59
Rock solid and sound advice as always Tall Man. You, and a very few others on this board have a stable of Chicas that have been totally vetted and make good travelling companions besides just having sex.

Unfortunately, the odds of a guy showing up in Medellin and within a few days identifying one or more Chicas to travel around the Country with that they are going to have an awesome time with are very slim, almost like a "wet dream" .Very true and applies to most destinations. Guys think they can just show up and threw around a little money, and they can have.

A model. As you said it almost never happens and many times can be a huge let down. It takes time, local connections and money.

Queens35
12-28-19, 02:19
Another one I just found at random and she was hot but without saying anything she pulled out a glue bottle and started sniffing while I was fuckin her doggy. Guess she was pretty bored LOL. Asked me if I wanted a sniff LOL. I busted quick, showed her the door and washed my balls extra long.Damn, that's a first I've heard of that.


Watch out for the cops in this town they are worse than the criminals.Why do you say that? In over 70 trips to Latin America, I have had 0 negative contacts with police. I'd say that I have been lucky if it was only a few trips but it's been a lot of days spent on the ground.


Is dental hygiene not a big thing here because all 4 of these broads had rough breath, and on the TLNs I didn't see one tooth get brushed.It's not their first priority for sure. I have 1 favorita that always brings her own toothbrush and borrows paste and Listerine before and after the session. Also, what I do is offer them a hit of Listerine as soon as they come in. Unfortunately, the mint doesn't last very long. LOL You can also bring new toothbrushes and offer them to overnight girls, and even non-overnighters.

The Tall Man
12-28-19, 02:20
PolloNegro threw me a hell of a bone with the whatsapp of a sweet vennie, very motivated young lady. Kept her most of my trip.

Also sessioned with a paisa FB chica who was real sweet and spoke excellent English, a bit lazy though. Thicc. TLN, more expensive than VEN but I could talk with her which was nice.

Two more FB girls.

One I got a reference here from another member that turned out to be a dud. Homegirl was super busted.

Another one I just found at random and she was hot but without saying anything she pulled out a glue bottle and started sniffing while I was fuckin her doggy. Guess she was pretty bored LOL. Asked me if I wanted a sniff LOL. I busted quick, showed her the door and washed my balls extra long.

Did not pick up a single street girl as my Spanish suckssss and it was my first time in Medellin. I saw plenty of them though.

Watch out for the cops in this town they are worse than the criminals.

Is dental hygiene not a big thing here because all 4 of these broads had rough breath, and on the TLNs I didn't see one tooth get brushed.I know some of PolloNegro girls, he too has shared some photos and videos of them (great fun) with me, he wears some of them out, hehehehe.

I hate to admit this but I also have had one girl pull out of her purse a baggie of glue and started huffing as I was pounding her in the back seat of my car, that stuff stinks like shit, hell it was kind of surreal, here I am pounding her and she is sniffing this baggie of glue and so I pound even harder, she was so out of it I just nutted all over her body and face and hair and she did not care a bit. Like I said almost a surreal experience but not one I care to repeat.

The Tall Man.

Knowledge
12-28-19, 03:40
I keep spare toothbrushes around. It helps. I find dental hygiene about the same in Colombia as other places. Some pay attention to it and some others don't.


PolloNegro threw me a hell of a bone with the whatsapp of a sweet vennie, very motivated young lady. Kept her most of my trip.

Also sessioned with a paisa FB chica who was real sweet and spoke excellent English, a bit lazy though. Thicc. TLN, more expensive than VEN but I could talk with her which was nice.

Two more FB girls.

One I got a reference here from another member that turned out to be a dud. Homegirl was super busted.

Another one I just found at random and she was hot but without saying anything she pulled out a glue bottle and started sniffing while I was fuckin her doggy. Guess she was pretty bored LOL. Asked me if I wanted a sniff LOL. I busted quick, showed her the door and washed my balls extra long.

Did not pick up a single street girl as my Spanish suckssss and it was my first time in Medellin. I saw plenty of them though.

Watch out for the cops in this town they are worse than the criminals.

Is dental hygiene not a big thing here because all 4 of these broads had rough breath, and on the TLNs I didn't see one tooth get brushed.

Surfer500
12-28-19, 06:33
I hate to admit this but I also have had one girl pull out of her purse a baggie of glue and started huffing as I was pounding her in the back seat of my car, that stuff stinks like shit, hell it was kind of surreal, here I am pounding her and she is sniffing this baggie of glue and so I pound even harder, she was so out of it I just nutted all over her body and face and hair and she did not care a bit. Like I said almost a surreal experience but not one I care to repeat.

The Tall Man.Yes, I to have to admit that I have done a few Zombies (sacaleros) as well. Not only does the glue have a stench to it, but the hard core Sacaleros have a stench to them as well from sniffing the shit all day. Similar stench (Nicotine) that oozes from the pores of a hard core smoker, but way worse and disgusting. Some of the Sacalero's are fucking hot, and there so hell bent on getting high you can do anything you want with them, and it won't phase them at all, because there so tweaked. But the stench can be so overwhelming it was hard for me to repeat with any of them. And doing a Zombie in the back seat of your car, that's priceless.

ChuchoLoco
12-28-19, 14:50
One Sunday I headed over to park Periodista to hang out. I had been there many times both day and night and have drank and watched smokers etc. Well this particular night it had few people. I bought a large Aguela Light and started drinking by one of the flower boxes next to the street when a policeman walked up to me and told me that I was in a park and there are laws against drinking in a park. My mind flashed on all the times I had been there and what goes on and thought well this may be a shakedown. I apologized and told him that I didn't know about the law and then asked if it was OK to pour it in the flower box. He gave e me a look like he couldn't believe my question and said no señor please finish it, just don't buy another. He thought it was crazy to waste a beer. Better to let me break the law than waste a beer. No shakedown, no hassle. Maybe I was lucky but a story I've told many times even to cops in USA who would never be as nice.

NormalAsianKid
12-28-19, 15:15
Hi everyone,

I just wanted to thank you guys quickly for helping me plan my upcoming trip. I'll be doing quite a bit of exploring during my trip so I should be able to have a lot to report back. I'm planning on staying at the mansion, a couple nights at an Airbnb, a couple nights at energy living and a couple nights at hotel Madeira. I was planning on hitting up the mansion, fb girls, casas, and clubs so hopefully I can experience a little of everything.

One thing I was curious about was the massages here. Is there a place where I can get the masseuse to teach me a little about massaging as well as getting FS? I figure pretty much every massage place does FS but I was hoping to learn a little bit myself.

Also, if anyone has any other advice for my 10 day trip, I'the love to hear it. And if anyone else is going to be in Medellin during my trip, I'the love to meet up and monger with a friend. First rounds on me.

Junior11
12-28-19, 20:33
I feel saver with 18-19 year olds (it goes without saying that I only fuck the hot ones, the girl who is at least an 8 in my book), I think they are at the a stage in life where they believe their youth will last forever, there is always older guys who will pay them a few hundred dollars to fuck them all night. The chance of a hot 18-19 year old girl who is desperate enough to steal is much lower than a 22-24 year old. We all lived through those golden years of 18-19, the concept of losing youth simply don't exist. If an 18-19 year old Paisa can consistently make 400 dollars a day fucking older guys, she will not think about stealing an iPhone or drug a guy. I this is just my thinking, it could be totally wrong.Agree 100%.

Junior11
12-28-19, 21:03
Yes, please, a separate FB thread for Colombia / Medellin would be great.


You mention this as being the Medellin thread, and in looking at the "entire group" of threads for Colombia, there is a separate "Escort Classified Section".

I believe the group of threads for Colombia has not changed in a long time, or ever. And in looking at the Escort Classified Section, it doesn't look like it's used much, and here in MDE, I look at the FB scene, as kind of an Escort Service, as it is widely used here.

As one poster mentioned, post's gyrate from theme to theme, and given the increased popularity of the Fay Boo scene, which has increased significantly over the years, I believe it warrants it's own thread in Medellin at this time. Than the non-FB guys wouldn't have to wade thru all the Fay Boo chatter commingled with all the other things covered in the Medellin thread, and for the Fay Boo guys, they would have a dedicated thread to share there experiences with the FB Chicas, and they too, wouldn't have to go thru a bunch of chatter they might not be interested in..

Kavin76
12-28-19, 22:06
Anyone ever run into problems bringing sex toys and lingerie into Medellin if they check your bags at customs? Haha. I don't care what they think about me, but I worry they could turn me away because I look like a sex tourist with a porno kit in my bags.

Junior11
12-29-19, 00:38
Thanks, reading this was helpful and even entertaining at times.


Sometimes I just have to shake my head.

Are we supposed to infer that every streetwalker, offering it up for 30-40 k in El Centro is a fresh faced virgin who is only going to do one customer and then retire? Or maybe they're just doing one guy a day to support their family. Yeah right. The best looking options on the street are taking 3-10+ dicks a day for as long as their bodies hold out. After a few years, they're struggling to attract 2-6 a day. By that time they've probably handled 2,000 pipis.

Except for the ones who are at the Mansion, most of the Facebook girls are seeing fewer customers a month than the gems in El Centro see in 3 days. Unless you're assuming the Facebook girls are all cruising Bello and Manrique in new BMWs.

Let's do the math. Figure 5 customers per day each. For street meat, that's 150 k per day, minus anything she has to pay to have a spot on the block. If she works 5 days, that's 750 k per week. Good money.

For the Facebook girls, that's 750 k daily, 3. 75 million weekly or 16 million COP per month. If you want to assume the girl with 13,000 followers has fucked 30% of her followers, she's earned a minimum of 600 million COP in about 18 months. The rough US standard of living equivalent is around $360 k per year.

Time to clue you in on the internet..

Junior11
12-29-19, 01:37
I guess this is the playbook for "No Hablo Español" guys who like the street scene. Do we also have pretty good chances on Tinder / FB?

Thanks mates!


I fall into roughly the same category as you. Your chance of picking up a regular girl is pretty good, but they are not going to be nearly as young and hot as the working girls. I would recommend learn a few pick up lines, don't get too drunk and have a set of lines ready for google translate. It is fun to play the pick up game a bit, but if the normal girls are not up to your standard or luck is running against, you can always go to Gusto or Paradise or el Faisan. You literally have to try very hard to not get laid in Medellin.

My typical routine on Thursday, Friday or Saturday is to start at the mansion around 9 pm (I don't recommend stay in the hotel, just pay the 50 k to enter the bar). At there you can practice dancing with a few girls to warm up. I once danced, grinded and played with a 22 year old smoking-hot paisa for the price of a beer. If you are lucky, you will find a girl that you want to party all night with, you need to negotiate for a price at the mansion with her, almost any girl will accept 500 k to party and fuck all night (make sure you explicitly mention the services such as BBBJ and / or DFK that you want receive). You then take her to gusto, where you can dance and play with her all night, and then take her home to fuck her brain out. It is possible to follow up with some hot morning sex (depending on how much you guys connected). If after gusto closes you still feel like partying, take her to Fahrenheit or paradise, depending on how drunk you are, you either get a Uber or take a taxi from Lleras. I don't recommend the taxi right in front of Gusto, they will charge you 50 k.

Dpilzbo
12-29-19, 02:19
Anyone ever run into problems bringing sex toys and lingerie into Medellin if they check your bags at customs? Haha. I don't care what they think about me, but I worry they could turn me away because I look like a sex tourist with a porno kit in my bags.They won't turn you away for that. -DP.

JohnnyWalker55
12-29-19, 03:08
Hey guys,

I'm headed to MDE finally for 9 days in January. After reading the past 200 pages and taking notes I have 2 questions:

1) What are the up to date hrly hotels with hot water in centro? I understand hotel premier plaza (16 k), Calle real (22 k), and hotel zona rosa (13 k) are the main ones. (and possibly Ensensonte (12 k) along with these.).

I understand these are hourly rates, Do they have daily rates as well, say if I wanted to set up camp there? I'm looking to bring the SW back for 2 leches, say spend an hour and half with each one for GFE, shower and shit. I figure 50-60 k will do the trick.

2) how much is a good tip for the front desk / door guys? 5 k? 10 k? Considering I'm going to be spending all of my 8 days hanging out in centro though I'm staying near estadio, I want to make sure I get good treatment from the staff. I'm fluent in Spanish.

Thanks a ton Jjbee, Wolf, Pollo, Surfer, Tallman, and many others. Ill be sure to write a good trip report.

Knowledge
12-29-19, 03:30
I haven't had any experience with customs or sex toys. I do know you can buy sex toys in Colombia, which is what I would do if I decided I wanted to have them.


Anyone ever run into problems bringing sex toys and lingerie into Medellin if they check your bags at customs? Haha. I don't care what they think about me, but I worry they could turn me away because I look like a sex tourist with a porno kit in my bags.

GeneHickman
12-29-19, 03:46
One Sunday I headed over to park Periodista to hang out. I had been there many times both day and night and have drank and watched smokers etc. Well this particular night it had few people. I bought a large Aguela Light and started drinking by one of the flower boxes next to the street when a policeman walked up to me and told me that I was in a park and there are laws against drinking in a park. My mind flashed on all the times I had been there and what goes on and thought well this may be a shakedown. I apologized and told him that I didn't know about the law and then asked if it was OK to pour it in the flower box. He gave e me a look like he couldn't believe my question and said no seor please finish it, just don't buy another. He thought it was crazy to waste a beer. Better to let me break the law than waste a beer. No shakedown, no hassle. Maybe I was lucky but a story I've told many times even to cops in USA who would never be as nice.That's been my exp. With Colombian cops as well, they are mostly trying to make sure law and order are uokept than anything else. But I am not naive and suspect they want to extract $$ if able, but not nearly as horrible as Mexican Cops in my experience.

Talon
12-29-19, 05:33
Hi everyone,

I just wanted to thank you guys quickly for helping me plan my upcoming trip. I'll be doing quite a bit of exploring during my trip so I should be able to have a lot to report back. I'm planning on staying at the mansion, a couple nights at an Airbnb, a couple nights at energy living and a couple nights at hotel Madeira. I was planning on hitting up the mansion, fb girls, casas, and clubs so hopefully I can experience a little of everything.

One thing I was curious about was the massages here. Is there a place where I can get the masseuse to teach me a little about massaging as well as getting FS? I figure pretty much every massage place does FS but I was hoping to learn a little bit myself.

Also, if anyone has any other advice for my 10 day trip, I'the love to hear it. And if anyone else is going to be in Medellin during my trip, I'the love to meet up and monger with a friend. First rounds on me.Why 3 different accommodations? Why not just stay in one place?

Two massage places I've tried were Jade Palace and Om Spa for Men. Neither have a particularly diverse selection--Jade only had 3 masseuses when I went in the afternoon. I went with the prettiest and got a perfunctory amateurish massage, followed by a bbj and cowgirl. Cost was around 150 k plus 30 k for the uncovered BJ. Not bad service but not great either. Far better deals to be had elsewhere. I went to Om spa a few more times as it was near my rental and it kind of was my fallback place for when my FB date stood me up and I couldn't find anything else. They were way better at massages and knew how to tease, but would never offer anything more than a happy ending, and only if you tipped like 50 k. I'd love to have a proper tantric massage followed by mind-blowing sex but so far that unicorn has remained elusive.

If you get bored of sex and want to do something more touristy take a day trip to Guatape and check out La Piedra. A bus leaves the north terminal every hour, takes around 2 hours and costs 10 k each way. Be warned that climbing La Piedra is no easy undertaking but the view is absolutely killer.

The Tall Man
12-29-19, 06:53
Yes, I to have to admit that I have done a few Zombies (sacaleros) as well. Not only does the glue have a stench to it, but the hard core Sacaleros have a stench to them as well from sniffing the shit all day. Similar stench (Nicotine) that oozes from the pores of a hard core smoker, but way worse and disgusting. Some of the Sacalero's are fucking hot, and there so hell bent on getting high you can do anything you want with them, and it won't phase them at all, because there so tweaked. But the stench can be so overwhelming it was hard for me to repeat with any of them. And doing a Zombie in the back seat of your car, that's priceless.That's exactly the word that I was searching for in describing fucking a glue huffing hottie in the small back seat of my car with rain pouring down and this hottie could care less which hole gets my load, it is priceless!

The Tall Man.

NormalAsianKid
12-29-19, 14:17
Why 3 different accommodations? Why not just stay in one place?

Two massage places I've tried were Jade Palace and Om Spa for Men. Neither have a particularly diverse selection--Jade only had 3 masseuses when I went in the afternoon. I went with the prettiest and got a perfunctory amateurish massage, followed by a bbj and cowgirl. Cost was around 150 k plus 30 k for the uncovered BJ. Not bad service but not great either. Far better deals to be had elsewhere. I went to Om spa a few more times as it was near my rental and it kind of was my fallback place for when my FB date stood me up and I couldn't find anything else. They were way better at massages and knew how to tease, but would never offer anything more than a happy ending, and only if you tipped like 50 k. I'd love to have a proper tantric massage followed by mind-blowing sex but so far that unicorn has remained elusive.

If you get bored of sex and want to do something more touristy take a day trip to Guatape and check out La Piedra. A bus leaves the north terminal every hour, takes around 2 hours and costs 10 k each way. Be warned that climbing La Piedra is no easy undertaking but the view is absolutely killer.Since my trip was 10 days, I didn't want to book 1 place and then have it not work out well. Figure with 3 different places, at least 1 will be chica friendly and I'll get to try more different things.

I've done tantric massage in Thailand before and it was great. That was actually what made me interested in learning a little about it but maybe that'll need to be for my next trip back there. I actually was thinking of doing the guatape trip but there is a deal on trip advisor for only 37 $. I know it's a little more expensive than doing it myself but it should be significantly more convenient with their transportation and boat ride and I'm hoping I'll be able to meet other tourists. What do you guys think? Also is it worth it to bring a girl to guatape?

Thanks.

Dcrist0527
12-29-19, 15:59
Forgive the newbie question, please. Colombia will be a new experience for me. I live in the US and have spent ALOT of time in Tijuana over the last three years. But looking to branch out.

While I enjoy many aspects of the game, I enjoy the chase. Finding a SG for a quick 30 minutes has its place. But a good night for me is chilling with a fun chica for a while over drinks, flirting and then heading back to my place. I spent a lot of time reading and I'm considering Lleras a must visit at least one or two nights. I have a pretty good understanding of the chica pricing structure. But, what should I expect for drink pricing at a bar? Is there a gringo price and an inflated chica price? I ask because in my Tijuana trips, I often spend more money on alcohol than chicas. I'm just trying to get an idea on prices. Thanks for any guidance!

Nounce
12-29-19, 16:40
Forgive the newbie question, please. Colombia will be a new experience for me. I live in the US and have spent ALOT of time in Tijuana over the last three years. But looking to branch out.

While I enjoy many aspects of the game, I enjoy the chase. Finding a SG for a quick 30 minutes has its place. But a good night for me is chilling with a fun chica for a while over drinks, flirting and then heading back to my place. I spent a lot of time reading and I'm considering Lleras a must visit at least one or two nights. I have a pretty good understanding of the chica pricing structure. But, what should I expect for drink pricing at a bar? Is there a gringo price and an inflated chica price? I ask because in my Tijuana trips, I often spend more money on alcohol than chicas. I'm just trying to get an idea on prices. Thanks for any guidance!I think you don't have to worry about drink price. The most expensive places like Gusto are still under 10 USD a drink. The most expensive beer at Beer Store by Lleras park is about 15 mils. Beers are cheaper in El Centrol. The lowest price I know at places where you can have sex on site cost about 4 or 5 mils for local beer. Strip clubs cost just a little more. The lowest price I have seen is 2 beers for 5 mils in a local bar.

You can check the Medellin list. It has prices in it.

SJobs
12-29-19, 16:45
I guess this is the playbook for "No Hablo Espaol" guys who like the street scene. Do we also have pretty good chances on Tinder / FB?

Thanks mates!If cruising around the streets of Medellin at 1 am, picking up local girls and building relationships with them using nothing but google translate is doable, then getting girls from fb and tinder is a walk in the park. I have about 10-15 fb Chicas on my weekly rotation, all of them are between 18-21 and they are stellar in every way. There are about 30 fb chicas on my second tier list, they are older (between 21-23), I only fuck one or two girls on this list every week. Rtff, all the information you need to get started on fb is written here. I'm heading back to Medellin today, I have a hot threesome from two of my fb princesses waiting for me.

Nounce
12-29-19, 16:46
Since my trip was 10 days, I didn't want to book 1 place and then have it not work out well. Figure with 3 different places, at least 1 will be chica friendly and I'll get to try more different things.

What happen if you like the first or second place and the rest suck, not to mention that you are wasting a lot of time moving between places? You try to solve one problem by creating a whole new set of issues.

You are staying at Mansion, followed by an ABB, energy living and another hotel. That is 4 places

Nounce
12-29-19, 16:54
That's exactly the word that I was searching for in describing fucking a glue huffing hottie in the small back seat of my car with rain pouring down and this hottie could care less which hole gets my load, it is priceless!

The Tall Man.I am surprised that you have only met one. I agree some of them are hot.

Nounce
12-29-19, 17:05
Hey guys,

I'm headed to MDE finally for 9 days in January. After reading the past 200 pages and taking notes I have 2 questions:

1) What are the up to date hrly hotels with hot water in centro? I understand hotel premier plaza (16 k), Calle real (22 k), and hotel zona rosa (13 k) are the main ones. (and possibly Ensensonte (12 k) along with these.).

I understand these are hourly rates, Do they have daily rates as well, say if I wanted to set up camp there? I'm looking to bring the SW back for 2 leches, say spend an hour and half with each one for GFE, shower and shit. I figure 50-60 k will do the trick.
There may be a per chica charge if you book the whole day. Pollo Negro has a recent report about it. The places also have rates for multiple hours. You should just go talk to the front desk to work out a deal since you are fluent in Spanish. Sometimes you can just give a tip, they will let you stay longer.


Considering I'm going to be spending all of my 8 days hanging out in centro though I'm staying near estadio.I think you are staying at the wrong location.

Hot water is not reliable. Some rooms may have it if you are lucky.

Surfer500
12-29-19, 17:10
Hey guys,

I'm headed to MDE finally for 9 days in January. After reading the past 200 pages and taking notes I have 2 questions:

1) What are the up to date hrly hotels with hot water in centro? I understand hotel premier plaza (16 k), Calle real (22 k), and hotel zona rosa (13 k) are the main ones. (and possibly Ensensonte (12 k) along with these.).

I understand these are hourly rates, Do they have daily rates as well, say if I wanted to set up camp there? I'm looking to bring the SW back for 2 leches, say spend an hour and half with each one for GFE, shower and shit. I figure 50-60 k will do the trick.

2) how much is a good tip for the front desk / door guys? 5 k? 10 k? Considering I'm going to be spending all of my 8 days hanging out in centro though I'm staying near estadio, I want to make sure I get good treatment from the staff. I'm fluent in Spanish.

Thank s a ton Jjbee, Wolf, Pollo, Surfer, Tallman, and many others. Ill be sure to write a good trip report.In answer your questions. The rates you posted for short time are correct but are really good for a couple of hours, versus one hour. At the Calle Real you will get three hours for 22 K or it's 60 K for all night. At the Zona Rosa they are not licensed to accept foreigners overnight so it's not an option. I don't know what the overnight rate is at Premium Plaza but probably around 60 K a night as well. As far as multiple guests if your renting by the day, you need to confirm that there is no extra charge for bringing in more than one girl a day. Your best option for this will probably be the Premium Plaza Hotel. Get a room on an upper floor in the middle of the building if your staying at Premium Plaza overnight. Make sure you have a legible color copy of your Passport along with a photocopy of your date of entry into the Country, you will need this for renting overnight. And if your going to be doing an overnight with a Chica, they will need a copy of their Cedula or other ID. They are very strict about this for someone staying overnight so make sure they have ID which may be an issue with some of the girls, I know from first hand experience about this, so I am giving you a heads up. Short time won't be an issue, and most places won't ask to see anybody's ID, as long as they look old enough.

In regards to tipping. A 10 K tip is huge, you can get girls for as low as 20 K. I use both the Premium Plaza and Zona Rosa a lot and tip anywhere from 1 to 2 K to the reception girls for short time use. It may sound cheap, but trust me it's not. Just the idea of someone getting a tip is almost unheard of in these hotels and when I arrive they give me an extra towel and soap. I guess I am a preferred guest at these establishments. There are lots of 5 K Hotels on the backside of the Church, so 5 K as a tip is way too much as well, unless your staying overnight, etc. And they are changing towels for you etc. Then it's warranted.

SJobs
12-29-19, 17:20
Forgive the newbie question, please. Colombia will be a new experience for me. I live in the US and have spent ALOT of time in Tijuana over the last three years. But looking to branch out.

While I enjoy many aspects of the game, I enjoy the chase. Finding a SG for a quick 30 minutes has its place. But a good night for me is chilling with a fun chica for a while over drinks, flirting and then heading back to my place. I spent a lot of time reading and I'm considering Lleras a must visit at least one or two nights. I have a pretty good understanding of the chica pricing structure. But, what should I expect for drink pricing at a bar? Is there a gringo price and an inflated chica price? I ask because in my Tijuana trips, I often spend more money on alcohol than chicas. I'm just trying to get an idea on prices. Thanks for any guidance!Gusto's drink price is approaching the price of a dive bar in San Francisco. I almost always spend more money on drinks than on girls. The most I have ever spent was 700 dollars on drinks in one night at Gusto, I bought multiple bottles of whiskey and was buying rounds left and right. I had a great time, but it did hurt my wallet a little bit (no regrets though, I will do it again in a heart beat). If you want a VIP style party; drink, dance and play with a group of super hot chicas all night, Gusto is the place to go. Compare to Europe, Vegas, NYC and San Francisco, Gusto is extremely affordable. I would have easily dropped 5000+ dollars (which is way above my budget) had I partied elsewhere. Paradise and la isla are another overpriced places where you can easily spend hundreds of dollars on drinks. Other than those three places, as far as I know, all other bars and clubs in Medellin are very affordable. Drinks cost about 1/3 to 1/5 the price of gusto and paradise.

Wolf662
12-29-19, 17:23
Anyone ever run into problems bringing sex toys and lingerie into Medellin if they check your bags at customs? Haha. I don't care what they think about me, but I worry they could turn me away because I look like a sex tourist with a porno kit in my bags.Rare to have your bags checked on entry, out of 4 trips they did X-ray my luggage once but never opened it any of the times.

JohnnyWalker55
12-29-19, 17:26
There may be a per chica charge if you book the whole day. Pollo Negro has a recent report about it. The places also have rates for multiple hours. You should just go talk to the front desk to work out a deal since you are fluent in Spanish. Sometimes you can just give a tip, they will let you stay longer.

I think you are staying at the wrong location.

Hot water is not reliable. Some rooms may have it if you are lucky.Thanks, yea I will go to the front desk at each place, I think hotel EROS and hotel Palmetto in Raudul will be good ST hotels if they have hot water. Thanks for the tips.

And I chose to stay at an air bnb in estadio because it is right by the metro, $12 a night (private place), and next to calle 70 for night life. I won't be bringing any girls overnight, I like my own space LOL! I don't want to hang out in Lleras with gringos and over priced pros, and I don't mind getting a taxi or metro to centro every morning.

I am looking forward to hitting up grill occidental like you said, can't wait for the fat strippers (I'm an ass man)! : the.

Dcrist0527
12-29-19, 19:14
I think you don't have to worry about drink price. The most expensive places like Gusto are still under 10 USD a drink. The most expensive beer at Beer Store by Lleras park is about 15 mils. Beers are cheaper in El Centrol. The lowest price I know at places where you can have sex on site cost about 4 or 5 mils for local beer. Strip clubs cost just a little more. The lowest price I have seen is 2 beers for 5 mils in a local bar.

You can check the Medellin list. It has prices in it.Thanks. Just found the list and map. I'm not sure if I'm more overwhelmed by the thought of a new locale or the vast amount of info on this board. Thank you Nounce. And really, thanks to all!

JjBee62
12-29-19, 19:16
One Sunday I headed over to park Periodista to hang out. I had been there many times both day and night and have drank and watched smokers etc. Well this particular night it had few people. I bought a large Aguela Light and started drinking by one of the flower boxes next to the street when a policeman walked up to me and told me that I was in a park and there are laws against drinking in a park. My mind flashed on all the times I had been there and what goes on and thought well this may be a shakedown. I apologized and told him that I didn't know about the law and then asked if it was OK to pour it in the flower box. He gave e me a look like he couldn't believe my question and said no seor please finish it, just don't buy another. He thought it was crazy to waste a beer. Better to let me break the law than waste a beer. No shakedown, no hassle. Maybe I was lucky but a story I've told many times even to cops in USA who would never be as nice.Had a similar situation in Parque Lleras. Bought beers and sat in the park to drink them. Cop came up and said we couldn't drink in the park. We thanked him, got up walked 20 feet out of the park and continued drinking.

JjBee62
12-29-19, 19:21
Hi everyone,

I just wanted to thank you guys quickly for helping me plan my upcoming trip. I'll be doing quite a bit of exploring during my trip so I should be able to have a lot to report back. I'm planning on staying at the mansion, a couple nights at an Airbnb, a couple nights at energy living and a couple nights at hotel Madeira. I was planning on hitting up the mansion, fb girls, casas, and clubs so hopefully I can experience a little of everything.

One thing I was curious about was the massages here. Is there a place where I can get the masseuse to teach me a little about massaging as well as getting FS? I figure pretty much every massage place does FS but I was hoping to learn a little bit myself.

Also, if anyone has any other advice for my 10 day trip, I'the love to hear it. And if anyone else is going to be in Medellin during my trip, I'the love to meet up and monger with a friend. First rounds on me.In Bogota there are plenty of massage places which are just full service brothels. There are only a few like that in Medellin. From my experience the girls there know nothing about massage.

There are plenty of regular massage spas in Medellin where you can get an excellent massage, but you're unlikely to get any more than a handjob. You'll pay more for the good massage and handjob than you'll pay for the lousy massage and full service.

JjBee62
12-29-19, 19:38
Since my trip was 10 days, I didn't want to book 1 place and then have it not work out well. Figure with 3 different places, at least 1 will be chica friendly and I'll get to try more different things.

I've done tantric massage in Thailand before and it was great. That was actually what made me interested in learning a little about it but maybe that'll need to be for my next trip back there. I actually was thinking of doing the guatape trip but there is a deal on trip advisor for only 37 $. I know it's a little more expensive than doing it myself but it should be significantly more convenient with their transportation and boat ride and I'm hoping I'll be able to meet other tourists. What do you guys think? Also is it worth it to bring a girl to guatape?

Thanks.And here's where Facebook shines.

Why spend $40 for a van ride with several other gringos, when you can hit one of the many Facebook girls with a car. You get a personalized tour, in a comfortable car, with a hot chica who will make sure you enjoy every aspect of the tour.

Junior11
12-29-19, 19:53
JjBee62, BMo814,

How do you find FB girls? FB search doesn't let one filter by age or even sex. Do you mine the list of followers of a known chica? Is there a better way?

Thanks a lot!


I use my regular Facebook page. I don't recommend this for most people, but I have a couple of reasons why it works for me.

1. I'm an open book. Any regular friends and family on my Facebook aren't going to be too surprised if someone points out I'm seeing hookers in Medellin. Most will ask to see some pictures.

2. I'd rather not switch back and forth between accounts.

I do have security set up a bit tighter than normal. It limits the exposure between the two groups of friends. I also don't make a habit of commenting every time a chica puts up a picture. I've set up a friend list that's just the Medellin chicas. Occasionally, if I want to post something just for chicas, I can make it so it's only visible for them.
I used my real FB as well despite what many say on the forum. I don't have any co workers on my fb and my family knows what's up with me. Mr E, depends on how motivated they are, I had 4 dates with FB girls and they all arrived on time more or less. Even one arrived earlier than set date. Fine little 19 year old thing. Medellin treated me right, I made a few missteps but that's on me. I'll def be back ASAP.

Carrib
12-29-19, 20:10
I have not been to MDE in nearly a decade and my have things changed. I must look like a mark because I am being quoted these crazy ass prices by these girls. I went to Fase Dos last night -there werent that many great looking women in there. First, I made the mistake of sitting at a table, I was told I needed to order a bottle for the priviiledge of sitting there, I took my ass to the bar -tried to observe the lay of the land. I saw one babe -decided to ask how much--she said 600 K pesos LOOOOOLLLLLLLLL, I ran out of there, took Uber to La Isla -supposedly the best but when I got there -there were a few cuties but overall avg looking babes.

I also went to Lutron, I was quoted 300 K for one hour, had an expensive beer and left. Is that the correct price?

After a string of misses and bad luck, this FINE ASS uber driver picked me up. We've exchanged numbers so we shall see.

Surfer500
12-29-19, 20:13
What happen if you like the first or second place and the rest suck, not to mention that you are wasting a lot of time moving between places? You try to solve one problem by creating a whole new set of issues.

You are staying at Mansion, followed by an ABB, energy living and another hotel. That is 4 placesPerhaps another way to look at staying places in Colombia should be considered. As an example, I visited Santa Marta earlier this year. I booked a room at the Marriot, which had an Olympic pool, ocean views, AC, Netflix, etc. In a relatively safe neighborhood, and in addition to this, I rented a room with AC adjacent to the street scenes there for 60,000 COP a night for my entire stay. I made it clear with the front desk what I would be doing, ie. Bringing in random girls to dump loads in, and no problem, they were just happy to rent the room. And I had no intention of bringing any of the girls I pulled off the street to the Marriot.

So as an example, a guy could stay say in Laureles or Poblado in a nice neighborhood, with lots of nice places to eat around, kind of like a little "safer haven", and I say that lightly, given being held up at gunpoint recently in Poblado, and besides this place, have a room at ground zero always available. Makes perfect sense to have two places if the money is not an issue and fits how you like to roll. For those not into El Centro though, just ignore this post and head directly to one of the Hotels you mentioned.

Surfer500
12-29-19, 20:15
I am surprised that you have only met one. I agree some of them are hot.He's met more than one, you can count on that.

Nounce
12-29-19, 20:20
I have not been to MDE in nearly a decade and my have things changed. I must look like a mark because I am being quoted these crazy ass prices by these girls. I went to Fase Dos last night -there werent that many great looking women in there. First, I made the mistake of sitting at a table, I was told I needed to order a bottle for the priviiledge of sitting there, I took my ass to the bar -tried to observe the lay of the land. I saw one babe -decided to ask how much--she said 600 K pesos LOOOOOLLLLLLLLL, I ran out of there, took Uber to La Isla -supposedly the best but when I got there -there were a few cuties but overall avg looking babes.

I also went to Lutron, I was quoted 300 K for one hour, had an expensive beer and left. Is that the correct price?
Lutron's price is about right. Fase Dos is 200 K. Other members have been quoted the same crazy price. You need to negotiate when you get the 600K price. Thursday and Friday nights are better at La Isla.

Nounce
12-29-19, 23:42
Gusto's drink price is approaching the price of a dive bar in San Francisco. I almost always spend more money on drinks than on girls. The most I have ever spent was 700 dollars on drinks in one night at Gusto, I bought multiple bottles of whiskey and was buying rounds left and right. I had a great time, but it did hurt my wallet a little bit (no regrets though, I will do it again in a heart beat). If you want a VIP style party; drink, dance and play with a group of super hot chicas all night, Gusto is the place to go. Compare to Europe, Vegas, NYC and San Francisco, Gusto is extremely affordable. I would have easily dropped 5000+ dollars (which is way above my budget) had I partied elsewhere. Paradise and la isla are another overpriced places where you can easily spend hundreds of dollars on drinks. Other than those three places, as far as I know, all other bars and clubs in Medellin are very affordable. Drinks cost about 1/3 to 1/5 the price of gusto and paradise.Did you order by the glass? It will lower your bill if you get a bottle. You could get 7 bottles of whisky in the VIP booth for what you paid at Gusto. Same thing at La Isla. They have large and small bottle that you can order.

Junior11
12-30-19, 00:00
Where did you stay? I assume it was a good place and girl friendly since you didn't mention anything about it.


You seasoned guys have covered so much on here and it's much appreciated. I have learned a lot from these boards and I will leave out details that have been talked about many times.

On this trip I decided to book an AirBnB at the suggestion of another monger. Last time I stayed at a hotel and getting a separate room every time I found a Facebook chica was not going to happen. I tried to hit all of the avenues on this trip but did not get to venture the Centro scene. Next time for sure!

Most of my days consisted of a massage in the morning and a Facebook or Tinder chica to my apartment at night. On 1 night I had a massage in the AM, Tinder chick in the middle of the day and Lleras chick at night but this was a bit too much for me. By the 3rd time I was "shooting" droplets. On a side note, any supplements you guys know of to increase semen volume?

I took JB's advice and basically copied and pasted a suggestion he wrote on here every time I reached out to a FB chica. It goes something like this, "Hola. Como ests? Quiero verte. En dos horas. No se. Dos o tres horas. Siempre pago ciento cincuenta mas veinte para el taxi. " The shit always worked plain and simple. Thanks JB LOL.

Knowing Spanish went a long way for sure. The girls would show up quiet and nervous. After a few drinks and laughs they were super friendly and did not want to leave it seemed. All GFE with everything on the menu. Most were not too excited about anal. The girls I came across had bad experiences with it and I left it at that. Prices for all of the Facebook and Tinder chicks was 150 k but I always gave them 200 K...

Nounce
12-30-19, 00:05
In answer your questions. The rates you posted for short time are correct but are really good for a couple of hours, versus one hour. At the Calle Real you will get three hours for 22 K or it's 60 K for all night. At the Zona Rosa they are not licensed to accept foreigners overnight so it's not an option. I don't know what the overnight rate is at Premium Plaza but probably around 60 K a night as well. As far as multiple guests if your renting by the day, you need to confirm that there is no extra charge for bringing in more than one girl a day. Your best option for this will probably be the Premium Plaza Hotel. Get a room on an upper floor in the middle of the building if your staying at Premium Plaza overnight. Make sure you have a legible color copy of your Passport along with a photocopy of your date of entry into the Country, you will need this for renting overnight. And if your going to be doing an overnight with a Chica, they will need a copy of their Cedula or other ID. They are very strict about this for someone staying overnight so make sure they have ID which may be an issue with some of the girls, I know from first hand experience about this, so I am giving you a heads up. Short time won't be an issue, and most places won't ask to see anybody's ID, as long as they look old enough.

In regards to tipping. A 10 K tip is huge, you can get girls for as low as 20 K. I use both the Premium Plaza and Zona Rosa a lot and tip anywhere from 1 to 2 K to the reception girls for short time use. It may sound cheap, but trust me it's not. Just the idea of someone getting a tip is almost unheard of in these hotels and when I arrive they give me an extra towel and soap. I guess I am a preferred guest at these establishments. There are lots of 5 K Hotels on the backside of the Church, so 5 K as a tip is way too much as well, unless your staying overnight, etc. And they are changing towels for you etc. Then it's warranted.I was told once Zona Rosa is for 3 hours but I have never tested it. I have gotten various prices up to 20 K for reason unknown to me until I got Pollo Negro to check it with me to confirm the price. Same thing for the 5 K place, I have been charged for 16 K in different visit. I guess it's kick back or different time length. Premium Plaza doesn't allow Venezuelan chicks.

Nounce
12-30-19, 00:10
So as an example, a guy could stay say in Laureles or Poblado in a nice neighborhood, with lots of nice places to eat around, kind of like a little "safer haven", and I say that lightly, given being held up at gunpoint recently in Poblado, and besides this place, have a room at ground zero always available. Makes perfect sense to have two places if the money is not an issue and fits how you like to roll. For those not into El Centro though, just ignore this post and head directly to one of the Hotels you mentioned.I don't follow this. If your purpose coming to Medellin is to monger in El Centro, you are spending a lot more on hotel than on chicas.

PdSuave
12-30-19, 00:19
I have not been to MDE in nearly a decade and my have things changed. I must look like a mark because I am being quoted these crazy ass prices by these girls. I went to Fase Dos last night -there werent that many great looking women in there. First, I made the mistake of sitting at a table, I was told I needed to order a bottle for the priviiledge of sitting there, I took my ass to the bar -tried to observe the lay of the land. I saw one babe -decided to ask how much--she said 600 K pesos LOOOOOLLLLLLLLL, I ran out of there, took Uber to La Isla -supposedly the best but when I got there -there were a few cuties but overall avg looking babes.

I also went to Lutron, I was quoted 300 K for one hour, had an expensive beer and left. Is that the correct price?

After a string of misses and bad luck, this FINE ASS uber driver picked me up. We've exchanged numbers so we shall see.Yes. I paid 300 K for an hour. This was Oct 2018. While it was the most I paid for a chica on that trip, she was the hottest. I had a hard time deciding which chica during the lineup. IMO, great quality chicas at this place. Next year, it's going to be ALL about Centro Vennies and yes (sorry guys that are tired of this abbrev) FB chicas. Jajaja. My trip is not until later next year but I've already got 10 chicas in the bullpen. The hardest part now is the dreaded wait to go fuck them!!

Surfer500
12-30-19, 01:30
I don't follow this thinking. If your purpose is to monger in El Centro, you are spending a lot more on hotel than on chicas.As you are aware, things here in Colombia versus other parts of the world are very in-expensive, hence money is not an issue for me personally with things being so cheap.

I like staying in nice places, although my affinity is for the El Centro Chicas, and just because I do them, doesn't translate for me having to staying in El Centro, but I do occasionally. And yes, I will easily spend more money on hotels at times, than on the Chicas, and I can see on the surface how that doesn't make any sense. I stay in Poblado but play in El Centro, so when I'm done at the playground in El Centro, I look forward to coming back to a very nice place to stay. I can afford to go to all the high end Chica places everybody mentions, but honestly, I don't think the experiences would be any better. Yes the women will be better dressed, etc. But once their clothes are off, what's the difference?

So what I was suggesting for others that can afford it, and who like staying in nice digs, yet like the SW's, it's an option to have two places at an added cost of no more than $ 20 USD a day, chump change for many. I had the best of both worlds while I was in Santa Marta, luxury digs with an ocean-view, and a separate place for the SW's. Don't get me wrong, I also enjoy company in nice digs as well, but that is only with a select few I have in my stable.

Your question makes total sense, why would a low level predator as an another poster has described guys who like the El Centro SW's have two places to stay if he is banging low end SW's. It all boils down to how they roll, their finances, and I guess at least here in Colombia, I am kind of like a "slum dog millionaire".

Surfer500
12-30-19, 01:47
I was told once Zona Rosa is for 3 hours but I have never tested it. I have gotten various prices up to 20 K for reason unknown to me until I got Pollo Negro to check it with me to confirm the price. Same thing for the 5 K place, I have been charged for 16 K in different visit. I guess it's kick back or different time length. Premium Plaza doesn't allow Venezuelan chicks.I have always been charged only 13 K at Hotel Zona Rosa and have stayed there up to two and a half hours but have never asked how much time is included, but since I tip the girls a whopping 2 K I guess I am a preferred guest. As far as the 5 K place, I don't know which one your mentioning, but there are several on the backside of the Church. It's strange that you are getting varying prices. It may be an occasional person figures they can charge a gringo more money and pocket the difference which wouldn't surprise me.

The Tall Man
12-30-19, 02:26
I have not been to MDE in nearly a decade and my have things changed. I must look like a mark because I am being quoted these crazy ass prices by these girls. I went to Fase Dos last night -there werent that many great looking women in there. First, I made the mistake of sitting at a table, I was told I needed to order a bottle for the priviiledge of sitting there, I took my ass to the bar -tried to observe the lay of the land. I saw one babe -decided to ask how much--she said 600 K pesos LOOOOOLLLLLLLLL, I ran out of there, took Uber to La Isla -supposedly the best but when I got there -there were a few cuties but overall avg looking babes.

I also went to Lutron, I was quoted 300 K for one hour, had an expensive beer and left. Is that the correct price?

After a string of misses and bad luck, this FINE ASS uber driver picked me up. We've exchanged numbers so we shall see.
Lutron's price is about right. Fase Dos is 200 K. Other members have been quoted the same crazy price. You need to negotiate when you get the 600K price. Thursday and Friday nights are better at La Isla.I just got to speak my mind. I usually head to the strip clubs with my Colombian friend, let me tell you this, if ANY chica in any of these strip clubs you mention, I have been to them all numerous times, would tell me that her price is 600 mil an hour I would be yelling at that girl screaming you puta, and I learned never to take any shit like this from any of these putas, and I learned this from my Colombian buddy.

And if more of us gringos would call these girls out on this scam they would wise up. I have called a few out on this exact issue, at the end of the day they are nothing more than a puta.

And if you think that any of the big bouncers, like the ones at Fase II would come to her rescue and mess with me, BS as I am bigger than these guys so they leave me alone I am a simple and reasonable guy but don't provoke me.

OK now I am done with my rant. So start putting these girls in place, there are a thousand right behind them who want your business, next!

The Tall Man.

NormalAsianKid
12-30-19, 09:38
I don't follow this. If your purpose coming to Medellin is to monger in El Centro, you are spending a lot more on hotel than on chicas.If I find a place I like, then I can just book that place again. It's simply a safety precaution to make sure one of the places I'm staying will let me bring guests back. I just want to make sure I'm having a good time.

Jonnywalker. When you going to be in Medellin? Want to meet up?

SJobs
12-30-19, 12:32
Did you order by the glass? It will lower your bill if you get a bottle. You could get 7 bottles of whisky in the VIP booth for what you paid at Gusto. Same thing at La Isla. They have large and small bottle that you can order.That night I got one bottle of Johnny walker black, at least 15+ coronas and I brought many rounds of tequila shots (about 5 or 6 shots per round). You are right, if I ordered two bottles of tequila instead of buying shots, I could have saved a lot of money. It was a good Thursday night, the DJ was killing it and I was with my favorite girls. I kept a mental math on the cost all the way until we finished whiskey. One thing I like about Medellin is that doesn't matter how fucked you are, the cost is never going to blow up in your face like in the states or in Europe. One word of advice for the party people, don't buy whiskey for the girls in paradise. For some reason the whisky drinks are insanely expensive there. If you really want to party and drink whiskey, you should just get a bottle (especially in paradise).

I'm in transit at Panama right now. In two hours, I will be back in heaven again. It's hard to put in words how happy I am right now. It's like going into a good German FKK for the second time when I was in my 20's.

SJobs
12-30-19, 12:46
Lutron's price is about right. Fase Dos is 200 K. Other members have been quoted the same crazy price. You need to negotiate when you get the 600K price. Thursday and Friday nights are better at La Isla.In my experience, Thursday at la isla is the best. Room cost 300 k for CFS, you have to negotiate extras such as BBBJ and DFK with the girl. Some will just do it for 300, others will ask for another 100.

Balboa
12-30-19, 17:04
I just got to speak my mind. I usually head to the strip clubs with my Colombian friend, let me tell you this, if ANY chica in any of these strip clubs you mention, I have been to them all numerous times, would tell me that her price is 600 mil an hour I would be yelling at that girl screaming you puta, and I learned never to take any shit like this from any of these putas, and I learned this from my Colombian buddy.

And if more of us gringos would call these girls out on this scam they would wise up. I have called a few out on this exact issue, at the end of the day they are nothing more than a puta.

And if you think that any of the big bouncers, like the ones at Fase II would come to her rescue and mess with me, BS as I am bigger than these guys so they leave me alone I am a simple and reasonable guy but don't provoke me.

OK now I am done with my rant. So start putting these girls in place, there are a thousand right behind them who want your business, next!

The Tall Man.I generally agree with your posts, however, this is actually funny to me.

Yell and scream at a girl, calling her a puta because she wants to overcharge you?

Really?

Being bigger and badder than the bouncers, really?

What does any of this really do, fix or prove?

Nothing.

How about just say no and move on.

Not getting any business will be the only thing that may change a girl.

I highly doubt screaming Puta at her will do anything.

And you saying, "at end of the day they are nothing more than a puta".

Come on man.

Really?

There are good and bad ones, just like mongers.

I could care less what your Colombian buddy does either.

I know that's not the norm.
I've been hangin in Colombia / Medellin for a long time.

Nounce
12-30-19, 18:52
Being bigger and badder than the bouncers, really?

What does any of this really do, fix or prove?
I think it will have an effect. If the chica frequently get an uncomfortable response, it is more likely she will be conditioned to not do it. The chica is conditioned the other way around now.

Nounce
12-30-19, 18:54
One word of advice for the party people, don't buy whiskey for the girls in paradise. For some reason the whisky drinks are insanely expensive there. Maybe that is why they don't allow guest to bring the left over bottle from the club into paradise.

Nounce
12-30-19, 18:58
I have always been charged only 13 K at Hotel Zona Rosa and have stayed there up to two and a half hours but have never asked how much time is included, but since I tip the girls a whopping 2 K I guess I am a preferred guest. As far as the 5 K place, I don't know which one your mentioning, but there are several on the backside of the Church. It's strange that you are getting varying prices. It may be an occasional person figures they can charge a gringo more money and pocket the difference which wouldn't surprise me.The 5 K place is Valencia. The one on the second floor at the intersection. The casher is in an iron cage inside.

I suspect the girl ordered and pocketed the condom when it costed more at Zona Rosa. There is another one w few doors from Zona Rosa is the same thing.

Carrib
12-30-19, 19:03
Hey guys.

Thanks but I am not going to argue with a puta for quoting crazy ass prices nor will I try to make a scene, normally when I travel I try to maintain a very low profile and not attract too much attention.

I will post a bit more later but I have another quick report, I am an avid cigar smoker -and for the past 3 days I have been frequenting the Habanos Point Cigar shop on Calle 10 a. The attendant is great, the poor guy is a mechanical engineer from Venezuela, speaks fluent english but the owner is an asshole. I met him (owner) yesterday, brought him a drink but the dude barely gave me the time of day. He also called and ordered the shop close early when the shop had clients spending money and watching the NFL game.

Again no scene, just taking my money elsewhere.

Surfer500
12-30-19, 20:26
The 5 K place is Valencia. The one on the second floor at the intersection. The casher is in an iron cage inside.

I suspect the girl ordered and pocketed the condom when it costed more at Zona Rosa. There is another one w few doors from Zona Rosa is the same thing.Not sure if I understand what your saying about the Condom, did they charge you for it, but didn't give it to you, and than pocketed what they charged you for it?

Anyways, I don't use the 5 K Hotels as I do have standards. And if your wondering why the cashiers are in cages at the 5 K hotels, that's to protect them from getting stabbed and / or robbed. It can get pretty crazy there when the locals have been pounding down on the booze.

And as a side note, on the block you mentioned there are girls so desperate that they will go for as low as 15 K, so when you pay the 5 K for the room which includes a condom, you will be out 20 K, or about $ 6 USD. What you will get for this is includes an ugly and / or fat Chica that will jerk you off to get you hard, then slap on a condom, suck you till your hard, and then they either get on you, or have you get on them until you pop. This is pretty much is the "norm" for the poorer locals who frequent these places.

Nounce
12-30-19, 22:37
Not sure if I understand what your saying about the Condom, did they charge you for it, but didn't give it to you, and than pocketed what they charged you for it?
It is my guess that the higher price is with condom. I did not order or see the condom myself. I am only guessing the girl took the condom. Valencia is not bad compare to Zona Rosa.

IamLookin
12-30-19, 22:42
I agree with you Surfer. Not to mention all the nasty critters that live on the bed swimming in the reservoir left by patrons. To each their own.


Not sure if I understand what your saying about the Condom, did they charge you for it, but didn't give it to you, and than pocketed what they charged you for it?

Anyways, I don't use the 5 K Hotels as I do have standards. And if your wondering why the cashiers are in cages at the 5 K hotels, that's to protect them from getting stabbed and / or robbed. It can get pretty crazy there when the locals have been pounding down on the booze.

And as a side note, on the block you mentioned there are girls so desperate that they will go for as low as 15 K, so when you pay the 5 K for the room which includes a condom, you will be out 20 K, or about $ 6 USD. What you will get for this is includes an ugly and / or fat Chica that will jerk you off to get you hard, then slap on a condom, suck you till your hard, and then they either get on you, or have you get on them until you pop. This is pretty much is the "norm" for the poorer locals who frequent these places..

Nounce
12-30-19, 22:57
Don't get me wrong, I also enjoy company in nice digs as well, but that is only with a select few I have in my stable.
I enjoy it more in the nicer place. I never like the ST rooms around El Centro.

The Tall Man
12-30-19, 23:22
I generally agree with your posts, however, this is actually funny to me.

Yell and scream at a girl, calling her a puta because she wants to overcharge you?

Really?

Being bigger and badder than the bouncers, really?

What does any of this really do, fix or prove?

Nothing.

How about just say no and move on.

Not getting any business will be the only thing that may change a girl.

I highly doubt screaming Puta at her will do anything..Your probably right, now I read my post and it does sound harsh, that's not me in general, maybe its the drama that I have picked up being in Medellin for so long, hehehehe.

To scream at a girl calling her puta I do not do, just being dramatic. In 10 years this has happened probably twice, I usually never get that pissed off but just human.

Its not just dealing with putas, twice in the past 10 years I have kicked in the door panel of a taxi who literally aimed his car at me while I waited for him to pass, this costeno gets out of his taxi, he is bajo yes all 5'-6" of him, typical cosento, yelling at me until he walks up to me well he will think twice about showing curtesy to another gringo waited at the curb for him to pass. Little costeno punk gets back into his taxi whimpering like a baby.

But yes I am bigger, taller and heavier than 90% of the big bouncers you see at the front door of the strip clubs, so I never get hassled. In Colombia culture especially big tall guys get respect be they Colombian or gringos.

I will try to more accurate and precise next time, and leave out the inherited paisa drama, hehehe.

Now my best Colombian buddy is another story, he was born and raised in the bad areas of Medellin and he is a beast when provoked but an all around nice friendly guy otherwise.

And regardless of all this I love Colombia and my life here not to overshadow the chicas.

Happy New Year to everyone!

The Tall Man.

Knowledge
12-31-19, 00:57
Low level predator? I resemble that remark. LOL!


As you are aware, things here in Colombia versus other parts of the world are very in-expensive, hence money is not an issue for me personally with things being so cheap.

I like staying in nice places, although my affinity is for the El Centro Chicas, and just because I do them, doesn't translate for me having to staying in El Centro, but I do occasionally. And yes, I will easily spend more money on hotels at times, than on the Chicas, and I can see on the surface how that doesn't make any sense. I stay in Poblado but play in El Centro, so when I'm done at the playground in El Centro, I look forward to coming back to a very nice place to stay. I can afford to go to all the high end Chica places everybody mentions, but honestly, I don't think the experiences would be any better. Yes the women will be better dressed, etc. But once their clothes are off, what's the difference?

So what I was suggesting for others that can afford it, and who like staying in nice digs, yet like the SW's, it's an option to have two places at an added cost of no more than $ 20 USD a day, chump change for many. I had the best of both worlds while I was in Santa Marta, luxury digs with an ocean-view, and a separate place for the SW's. Don't get me wrong, I also enjoy company in nice digs as well, but that is only with a select few I have in my stable.

Your question makes total sense, why would a low level predator as an another poster has described guys who like the El Centro SW's have two places to stay if he is banging low end SW's. It all boils down to how they roll, their finances, and I guess at least here in Colombia, I am kind of like a "slum dog millionaire".

JjBee62
12-31-19, 01:09
I generally agree with your posts, however, this is actually funny to me.

Yell and scream at a girl, calling her a puta because she wants to overcharge you?

Really?

Being bigger and badder than the bouncers, really?

What does any of this really do, fix or prove?

Nothing.

How about just say no and move on.

Not getting any business will be the only thing that may change a girl.

I highly doubt screaming Puta at her will do anything.I had the same reaction. I'm bigger than just about everyone in Colombia. I also hope that I'm smart enough to realize how little that matters. One big old gringo vs 15 young Colombian bouncers isn't my idea of a good time.

Why scream and yell? Why call names? There's no upside for me. I expect any other women within range will immediately decide they don't want my money bad enough to deal with the abuse. If there happens to be a customer around who thinks he's in love with the girl, I might just end up with a knife in my back.

When a girl tosses out a crazy price, I just laugh and say "no, gracias. " They immediately understand that I know the going rate and they'll either move along looking for a sucker or come down to the right price.

It's not my responsibility to make sure nobody else is overcharged. If some girl can get 600 k or $600 from some guy, I'll tip my hat to her and congratulate her. Now if the guy asks me, I'll tell him how much he should be paying, but if he doesn't do his research, that's his problem.

There's no reason to belittle these women or treat them like trash. I doubt many of us would last a week trying to walk in their shoes.

Surfer500
12-31-19, 01:14
It is my guess that the higher price is with condom. I did not order or see the condom myself. I am only guessing the girl took the condom. Valencia is not bad compare to Zona Rosa.I doubt the higher price was because it included a condom which they surely would of handed to either you or the Chica. Typically at the 5 K hotels, it includes the condom which they hand to you, so you know it's not expensive.

I suspect what happened to you is that they just charged more than the normal price. This could of been initiated in one of two ways, either the Clerk just quoted you a higher price, or the Chica said something to Clerk resulting in a higher price which she shared with the Clerk. Lots of these girls know the Clerks, so it would be very easy for them to pull this off and you would be "clueless" if your experience base for the area was limited.

I had a similar experience in Athens of all places this Summer. I pulled a SW and went to a short time Hotel and was told 10 Euros and being "clueless" just paid it. The next day I pulled another SW and went back to the same Hotel, and there was a different Clerk, and was told the price was 5 Euros.

So this is just my supposition as to what happened to you as it's happened to me. And darn, that extra 3 K you paid has got to be rough, maybe just stick with the 5 K Hotels as the condom is included and there will be no doubt your paying the going rate.

LeyenLouvain
12-31-19, 02:31
The 5 K Hotels about thirty minutes, the 10 K Hotels about an hour, and the Hotels from between 13 and 16 K are an hour and a half, and the 22 K Hotel three hours.Thank you for posting this, it was a mystery to me how the more expensive ones could cost so much as proportion of what the locals pay for a cita. But now it makes sense if it's to do with longer citas.

I think I have also seen advertised that some of them have 6 hours for the price of 3 hours at quiet times.

I would really like to know how much a 90 minute session with one of Pollo Negro's beauties cost in El Centro (as a point of comparison with FB prices).

ColombiaLover
12-31-19, 03:00
Anyone have any experience with yura estrada? She is a Facebook girl. Regular job but several gringos replying to her posts. Thanks in advance.

Psychman
12-31-19, 03:41
Anyone have any experience with yura estrada? She is a Facebook girl. Regular job but several gringos replying to her posts. Thanks in advance.No, but I see she is one of my buddies's friends, and if they are not working girls (in the sense that we like), we will unfollow very quickly. Not fool proof, but from my look at her profile, she seems with the program.

GeneHickman
12-31-19, 03:56
Anyone have any experience with yura estrada? She is a Facebook girl. Regular job but several gringos replying to her posts. Thanks in advance.Some of them have jobs but do this on the side to augment their income. Pay for honest work in Colombia is pretty dismal. I heard the minimum wage went up 6% to like 860 mil a month, but I am not sure how well it is enforced because I have heard Chicas tell me they get like 400 mil a month. Not saying I believe everything I hear, but it's hard and normal jobs don't pay that well.

Dcrist0527
12-31-19, 05:10
How reliable is photoprepagos? It seems to receive good press on these boards, I think. But my experience with Milerticos and similar sites in Mexico were less than reliable. Maybe it was a 20% success rate. Beyond the scams, bait and switch was an issue. Hoping that photoprepagos is reliable; I'm wanting to involve online opportunities to my plan but I just don't trust FB at all. (The application, not the chicas.).

DeepXliv
12-31-19, 05:17
How reliable is photoprepagos? It seems to receive good press on these boards, I think. But my experience with Milerticos and similar sites in Mexico were less than reliable. Maybe it was a 20% success rate. Beyond the scams, bait and switch was an issue. Hoping that photoprepagos is reliable; I'm wanting to involve online opportunities to my plan but I just don't trust FB at all. (The application, not the chicas.).What don't you trust? I've used it for 4 girls and 2 were great times, 1 was not worth it and 1 was awful. They all showed up, the ok one left well before time and didn't look nearly as good as her pictures and the awful one looked fine but the services were so mechanical and the things we agreed to she would do for 15 seconds and then say she couldn't. I literally paid her to leave without fucking.

DeepXliv
12-31-19, 05:19
Look I know someones going to say it doesn't matter but in the off chance I can get free pussy, those of you who have had luck on tinder. What do you put in your bio? Feel free to message.

Surfer500
12-31-19, 06:21
Look I know someones going to say it doesn't matter but in the off chance I can get free pussy, those of you who have had luck on tinder. What do you put in your bio? Feel free to message.I am sorry to inform you of this, but if your on this website, your in the "Pay Pool". Your best luck at getting free pussy is to search for women close to your age because all of the darlings on Tinder who respond to guys twice their age are given it up for free.

Mr Enternational
12-31-19, 06:46
Look I know someones going to say it doesn't matter but in the off chance I can get free pussy, those of you who have had luck on tinder. What do you put in your bio? Feel free to message.I don't put anything in a bio. And if a girl from a dating site says did you read my profile? I say no. Nobody reads profiles. A person can write anything. You see a person you are attracted to, then you try to get to know the person. You can fall in love with someone without a profile and you can end up hating someone whose profile you loved. As you said, it doesn't matter. Nobody is skimming through bios of people they are not initially attracted to anyway.

TopoChico571
12-31-19, 08:20
Now that my Facebook account got deleted. I will never get a true GFE there now. I'm spending $1,000 on a flight + hotel to what amounts to a vacation with my hand. Why even go now? I just wanted a GFE for the night, but without Facebook I'll be spending at least $500/ night for that. Might as well not go.

PolloNegro
12-31-19, 09:03
Thank you for posting this, it was a mystery to me how the more expensive ones could cost so much as proportion of what the locals pay for a cita. But now it makes sense if it's to do with longer citas.

I think I have also seen advertised that some of them have 6 hours for the price of 3 hours at quiet times.

I would really like to know how much a 90 minute session with one of Pollo Negro's beauties cost in El Centro (as a point of comparison with FB prices).Are not expensive but not cheap, unless you session with them on the spot, but PM me and I'll give you more info on the girls I know from centro, Pollo Negro is out!

ColombiaLover
12-31-19, 12:01
Thanks. I am aware of this. I've been going to Colombia for more than 14 years and had a Colombian ex-wife. The pay there is dismal. And that's if you can get a job at all.

And, yes, I have known girls who have full-time jobs and work on occasion on the side. In fact, some of my go-to girls are girls who work a full-time job and see me (and maybe other guys) on the side, but who are not flaunting it on Facebook. For example, I have a squirter who works at a bank. And she has a boyfriend. Love her to death.

I am hoping that someone can confirm that Yura is a working girl, even if only on the side. Just want to confirm my suspicions before I think about acting. Thanks.


Some of them have jobs but do this on the side to augment their income. Pay for honest work in Colombia is pretty dismal. I heard the minimum wage went up 6% to like 860 mil a month, but I am not sure how well it is enforced because I have heard Chicas tell me they get like 400 mil a month. Not saying I believe everything I hear, but it's hard and normal jobs don't pay that well.

Mr Enternational
12-31-19, 13:03
Thanks. I am aware of this. I've been going to Colombia for more than 14 years and had a Colombian ex-wife. The pay there is dismal. And that's if you can get a job at all.I have never once met a Colombian chick that said she could not find a job. All the regular chicks that I have ever met have had jobs, and if not, then they are students. Hell, I know Venezuelans that live in Colombia and have normal jobs.

IamLookin
12-31-19, 13:36
Hi ColombiaLover. I have never sessioned or met her but why not message her that you are interested in seeing her? If she responds back with a yes then the answer is obvious she is a working girl. Why else would she accept meeting a gringo stranger?


Thanks. I am aware of this. I've been going to Colombia for more than 14 years and had a Colombian ex-wife. The pay there is dismal. And that's if you can get a job at all.

And, yes, I have known girls who have full-time jobs and work on occasion on the side. In fact, some of my go-to girls are girls who work a full-time job and see me (and maybe other guys) on the side, but who are not flaunting it on Facebook. For example, I have a squirter who works at a bank. And she has a boyfriend. Love her to death.

I am hoping that someone can confirm that Yura is a working girl, even if only on the side. Just want to confirm my suspicions before I think about acting. Thanks..

D Cups
12-31-19, 14:15
I have never once met a Colombian chick that said she could not find a job. All the regular chicks that I have ever met have had jobs, and if not, then they are students. Hell, I know Venezuelans that live in Colombia and have normal jobs.Hello Mr. E and Fellow Mongers,

I have never met anyone in my life that could not get a job, regardless of country, if they really wanted one. It might not be doing what they want but it is money. I think a lot of prostitutes are just plain too lazy to find a job outside of selling their bodies. The smarter ones have jobs and hook on the side. Of course if they have kids that may limits their opportunity a bit but where there is a will there is a way. Cheers, amigo. Maybe our paths will cross again.

PdSuave
12-31-19, 14:39
Now that my Facebook account got deleted. I will never get a true GFE there now. I'm spending $1,000 on a flight + hotel to what amounts to a vacation with my hand. Why even go now? I just wanted a GFE for the night, but without Facebook I'll be spending at least $500/ night for that. Might as well not go.You may need a little more self esteem there buddy! I got laid 8 times in 6 days (most here would consider that a slow) on my first trip. And guess what? I didn't even have a FB account with Paisa set up yet!

Now the elusive GFE? FB is not the only tool to find this.

Not going to Medellin due to no FB account is just crazy. Read the boards brother. A wealth of info and suggestions live here.

JjBee62
12-31-19, 15:00
Now that my Facebook account got deleted. I will never get a true GFE there now. I'm spending $1,000 on a flight + hotel to what amounts to a vacation with my hand. Why even go now? I just wanted a GFE for the night, but without Facebook I'll be spending at least $500/ night for that. Might as well not go.1. What led you to believe you could go to a place you've never been before and get a true GFE with someone you've spent 20 minutes chatting with?

2. What is a true GFE? I've had a lot of true GFs, and some who weren't quite as true as I wanted. I've had lots of experiences with the different GFs, but they've all been different. Different people, different personalities, different experiences.

3. Why would you spend $1000 to spend more money for a 1 night experience? All over the US there are girls who will give you GFE for less than $1000.

4. Why throw away the $1000, or fly to Medellin just to masturbate? There are still several thousand options available for you in Medellin. It might not be "true GFE", but since nobody really knows what "true GFE" is, it won't matter much.

5. What's to stop you from creating another Facebook account? Create a new Gmail account. Create a new Facebook account. Like a few pages that you're interested in. Add a few photos and posts. Add a few friends. Don't try to add 500 girls in one day. Browse a few Facebook ads. In other words, treat it like a normal account. Look for nightclubs, restaurants and hotels in Medellin that have Facebook pages. Follow those pages. Take it slowly and you should be fine.

6. Why would anyone spend $500 a night in Medellin (unless you want to spend $500 night)? There are 100,000 women in Medellin who will spend a week with you for $500. Granted, it takes some Spanish and a willingness to chat up strangers. However, Medellin is one of the best places in the world to chat up random, young, attractive women. They'll actually talk with you and be pleasant if you treat them right. Or you can go to the bar at the Mansion, pay your 50 k cover charge, spend some time picking out a girl and pay her 300-500 k to spend the night with you. With taxis and drinks you'll spend less than $200 and your chance of getting GFE is the same as on Facebook.

7. An all night date with an unknown girl is rarely a good idea. The chance of it matching your "true GFE" expectations is slim to none. Give someone a test run first.

8. Facebook isn't the only option. Some will say it's not the best option. Some will say it's not even a good option. I do know gringos were getting laid in Medellin long before Facebook began, and gringos who have never used Facebook are still getting laid in Medellin. If you can't find an enjoyable experience in Medellin, you might as well get your nuts cut off and join a monastery.

Talon
12-31-19, 16:02
Now that my Facebook account got deleted. I will never get a true GFE there now. I'm spending $1,000 on a flight + hotel to what amounts to a vacation with my hand. Why even go now? I just wanted a GFE for the night, but without Facebook I'll be spending at least $500/ night for that. Might as well not go.Any idea why your FB went bye-bye? I've had a few of my regulars disappear too and now it's impossible to contact them. I always try to get Whatsapp numbers whenever I can but that's also not reliable as these girls seem to lose their phones as easily as their virginity.

You can still use Tinder, strip clubs, casas, escort websites, or prowling for streetwalkers like some of the guys here.