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Mr Enternational
03-21-20, 04:50
New Life jajajajaja. Not about them closing but about seeing the Mamasan of New life during my end of November 2019 trip as I was out strolling around Cale 52 next to the Museo Antioquia.
Sure she was out scouting for new talent as I was.So once again we can see that some of the same chicks that you fucked in place A for y amount are in place B for yx3. Ever wonder why chicks in places like Fase 2 are older? Because in many cases they have followed the pipeline. Street, to casa, to Mansion, to higher cost strip club. They have worked all these years and have been able to save up for implants along the way.
Which brings up an interesting question. In this hobby, is youth or experience more valued? I'm not paying $200 per hour for some guy fresh out of law school, but I would pay $250 for a guy that has been lawyering 20 or so years and knows his way around the legal system.
Are you paying 200K for a chick just because she is 20 years old and may be green as grass, or is it better to pay 300K to a 30 year old chick that knows her way around a dick.
Are you paying 200K for a chick just because she is 20 years old and may be green as grass, or is it better to pay 300K to a 30 year old chick that knows her way around a dick.One man's trash is another man's treasure. I would definitely pay more for 18-21 year-old. If a decent looking 30 year-old in Medellin want to pay me 200 dollar to fuck her, I will politely turn it down.
I saw something on the Internet today about the United States that I hope is not true. Gun sales are at historic highs. That is scary if it's true.Yup, it's true. Gun stores where I live in Central Texas are getting cleaned out of ammo and guns.
Good times ahead.
BREAKING NEWS! Colombia in total Lockdown for 19 days from Tuesday March 24. Be safe everyone!
Speaking at the end of the first of four days of quarantine in Bogotá and neighbouring departments, President Duque has announced that the whole country will go into shutdown from 11.59 pm on Tuesday night.
The country-wide quarantine measures will be in place until April 13.
https://thebogotapost.com/colombia-to-enter-complete-quarantine/44444/?fbclid=IwAR1d31Y9cp9aZA9prNkvcq-OP8OBrI6-R4vkB0fqN4Xiq2oYkEc421mYc6o
One man's trash is another man's treasure. I would definitely pay more for 18-21 year-old. If a decent looking 30 year-old in Medellin want to pay me 200 dollar to fuck her, I will politely turn it down.You are funny, SJobs, but I admire your honesty. Even though it's misplaced at times. I remember a few month ago you were raving about the Globe club in Zurich. Now, it's Medellin's turn, and in particular the younger ones. Just make sure they are over 18. You will discover one day that a 30 year old can give you one heck of a session, much better than what an 18 year old can give.
One man's trash is another man's treasure. I would definitely pay more for 18-21 year-old. If a decent looking 30 year-old in Medellin want to pay me 200 dollar to fuck her, I will politely turn it down.People pay more for new car too.
Mr Enternational
03-21-20, 06:56
People pay more for new car too.You are comparing apples to oranges though. I am talking about newness versus experience from a human standpoint. Machines are devalued and become obsolete with time. So of course one would say pay more for the new car. People gain knowledge and experience over time. There are no young wisepeople. So what should be valued more: the chick that is fresh in the dick game or the one that already knows how to shoot you into outer space because she has had tons of experience at it?
Mojo Bandit
03-21-20, 07:17
One man's trash is another man's treasure. I would definitely pay more for 18-21 year-old. If a decent looking 30 year-old in Medellin want to pay me 200 dollar to fuck her, I will politely turn it down.
You are comparing apples to oranges though. I am talking about newness versus experience from a human standpoint. Machines are devalued and become obsolete with time. So of course one would say pay more for the new car. People gain knowledge and experience over time. There are no young wisepeople. So what should be valued more: the chick that is fresh in the dick game or the one that already knows how to shoot you into outer space because she has had tons of experience at it?I see both of your points. A younger lady is going excite me more on looks, but even what Mr E leaves out is that not only does the 30 yr old have more experience but woman reach their sexual peak in late 20's to early 30's so they are more into it. More woman that girl sexually
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You are comparing apples to oranges though. I am talking about newness versus experience from a human standpoint. Machines are devalued and become obsolete with time. So of course one would say pay more for the new car. People gain knowledge and experience over time. There are no young wisepeople. So what should be valued more: the chick that is fresh in the dick game or the one that already knows how to shoot you into outer space because she has had tons of experience at it?If I'm looking for an intellectually stimulating conversation, I will look for a person with similar interests and academic backgrounds, regardless of gender. If looking for a dance partner, I will look for the best looking girl who is at the same dance level as me. If looking for a Spanish teacher, I will look for a person with the best teaching experience. If I'm looking for girls to have threesome sex, party for 48 hours straight, drink heavily, and do a ton of drugs, they must be 18-21. A 30-year-old will get tired very quickly.
SavePros321
03-21-20, 11:48
I see both of your points. A younger lady is going excite me more on looks, but even what Mr E leaves out is that not only does the 30 yr old have more experience but woman reach their sexual peak in late 20's to early 30's so they are more into it. More woman that girl sexually.I have a chica that I only recently found out is pushing 40 and is as wild as any of the younger chicas I've dealt with. I've been fucking this chica for the last few years and she doesn't look a bit over 30. I would have never guessed she was pushing 40 until she just up and told me. Her sexual energy is off the charts and half the time I am trying to keep up with her! LOL.
So once again we can see that some of the same chicks that you fucked in place A for y amount are in place B for yx3. Ever wonder why chicks in places like Fase 2 are older? Because in many cases they have followed the pipeline. Street, to casa, to Mansion, to higher cost strip club. They have worked all these years and have been able to save up for implants along the way.
Which brings up an interesting question. In this hobby, is youth or experience more valued? I'm not paying $200 per hour for some guy fresh out of law school, but I would pay $250 for a guy that has been lawyering 20 or so years and knows his way around the legal system.
Are you paying 200K for a chick just because she is 20 years old and may be green as grass, or is it better to pay 300K to a 30 year old chick that knows her way around a dick.I find 20 year olds to be just as knowledgeable about the dick as older women, and their far more attractive and motivated, less bitter. But I have not have sex with someone 30 or more in years while mongering. I can stay in the United states for that. Pet peeve older women, women with kids.
PolloNegro
03-21-20, 14:23
Friday March 20,2020.
I guess there is quarantine here in Medellin, I really wouldn't know, I have been so busy working and keeping busy. Currently it just feels right, the currency, the lifestyle, and the girls; everything just feels right for a change. When you're earning between 5- 8,000,000 pesos daily and you still have time to bang 3 gorgeous chics, everything just feels right.
The times that I was in Medellin and had to rush to get back to the US, this feels right about all of the quickie sessions I had to make and felt short changed. So many chics in the Parque Botero are suffering and starving and not receiving dates and I have no concern, not one bit. Bad service, being rude, lying and being slick has brought about the few clients to Centro, coupled with the Covid 19; many of the chics may not survive.
I have a nice amount of chics so I just go to the Park to visit with friends and kick the BS. I have seen a few new chics that look worth banging but with the enemies that I made in the park, I can't get close enough to the new chics without the old chics seeing and attacking them, so I just smile and pretend that I don't want a cita. Not bad at all, just not as easy as it once was.
Many of the BMs are correct about pricing and the desperation. For me, this quarantine is perfect. It allows for the desperation to sit in more and by Tuesday these girls will be willing to work. I sat in the parquet Botero Friday for about 3 hours, I saw maybe only 2 girls get dates during that entire time that I sat in the Park. Here's the kicker, even if the Colombian monger out numbers the foreign monger, the value of the peso is so poor, many Colombians will not even work for their usual $425,000 biweekly checks. Currently $425,000 pesos is $104.00 usd; think about that the next time you want to pay a girl $200 usd! You'the be paying her a month's salary for 2 hours of work. Oh how sweet it is to be in Medellin right now.
The girls are still beautiful, plentiful, and soon more willing to perform than ever. So if you are here and you're having success, then you know what this post is saying. I have to go see immigration in about 3-5 weeks for an extension on my visa because Spirit airlines cancelled my flight and I had to re-book it for 2 weeks later in June. I just checked the Spirit Airlines Website and there are no flights leaving Medellin for Ft Lauderdale until June 10, 2020. I have no worries about being here until then or maybe July 1st or later. Pollo Negro is Out!
This video should be shown in airplane monitors prior to touchdown in all Colombian airports.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX73layhN1k&feature=youtu.be
Thailand and Cambodia should be included in the group
Sex workers struggle to make ends meet as coronavirus spreads.
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ny-sex-workers-coronavirus-prostitutes-business-20200317-bmkcindw6fds7gw2sjemjwv734-story.html
Enjoy your trip and have fun. Stay safe.
Friday March 20,2020.
I guess there is quarantine here in Medellin, I really wouldn't know, I have been so busy working and keeping busy. Currently it just feels right, the currency, the lifestyle, and the girls; everything just feels right for a change. When you're earning between 5- 8,000,000 pesos daily and you still have time to bang 3 gorgeous chics, everything just feels right.
The times that I was in Medellin and had to rush to get back to the US, this feels right about all of the quickie sessions I had to make and felt short changed. So many chics in the Parque Botero are suffering and starving and not receiving dates and I have no concern, not one bit. Bad service, being rude, lying and being slick has brought about the few clients to Centro, coupled with the Covid 19; many of the chics may not survive.
I have a nice amount of chics so I just go to the Park to visit with friends and kick the BS. I have seen a few new chics that look worth banging but with the enemies that I made in the park, I can't get close enough to the new chics without the old chics seeing and attacking them, so I just smile and pretend that I don't want a cita. Not bad at all, just not as easy as it once was.
This just in: The Mayor of Medellin announced the first confirmed case of coronavirus is now fully recovered after a 14 day quarantine. It was announced on teleMedellin just a moment ago.
Meanwhile, last night, the president imposed a mandatory national quarantine beginning Tuesday March 24 through April 13. This after a lockdown was imposed beginning last night at 7 PM through Tuesday. When I was out for a walk earlier some D1 employees were opening shop. I'm not sure what their hours will be, they opened around 11 AM.
I have a date coming by taxi at 4 PM. Uber sent e-mails that they are shutting down through Tuesday. The metro is running.
Up to date and accurate information is on gov. Co.
I see both of your points. A younger lady is going excite me more on looks, but even what Mr E leaves out is that not only does the 30 yr old have more experience but woman reach their sexual peak in late 20's to early 30's so they are more into it. More woman that girl sexually.The other side of the equation is that those 18 year olds already have 5 years of experience.
ColombiaLover
03-21-20, 19:09
I love this video. Too bad the people who need to see it the most, probably will not watch it.
This video should be shown in airplane monitors prior to touchdown in all Colombian airports.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX73layhN1k&feature=youtu.be
Thailand and Cambodia should be included in the group
The Tall Man
03-21-20, 19:24
Never been there so never knew what girls were asking or what a dude actually pays.
This guy lives in Gustos and gives a lot of advice about prices.
https://youtu.be/AX73layhN1k.Love this black guys smile and laugh, he is spot on about mongers paying stupid prices, I absolutely agree with him about the Gustos WG who charge 300-600 mil to some stupid gringo, and some $200 to $300 USD, and I also have seen that same ***** in a casa (and even in the vera) peddling her pussy for 40 mil.
The Tall Man.
Amen brother, if I have to be quarantined I thank my lucky stars it is here and not in Europe or North America getting gouged by disaster profiteers.
Friday March 20,2020.
I guess there is quarantine here in Medellin, I really wouldn't know, I have been so busy working and keeping busy. Currently it just feels right, the currency, the lifestyle, and the girls; everything just feels right for a change. When you're earning between 5- 8,000,000 pesos daily and you still have time to bang 3 gorgeous chics, everything just feels right.
The times that I was in Medellin and had to rush to get back to the US, this feels right about all of the quickie sessions I had to make and felt short changed. So many chics in the Parque Botero are suffering and starving and not receiving dates and I have no concern, not one bit. Bad service, being rude, lying and being slick has brought about the few clients to Centro, coupled with the Covid 19; many of the chics may not survive.
I have a nice amount of chics so I just go to the Park to visit with friends and kick the BS. I have seen a few new chics that look worth banging but with the enemies that I made in the park, I can't get close enough to the new chics without the old chics seeing and attacking them, so I just smile and pretend that I don't want a cita. Not bad at all, just not as easy as it once was.
I love this video. Too bad the people who need to see it the most, probably will not watch it.I would replace "Simp" with "newbie. " Newbies only think of what it would cost back home. But after a while in this hobby, they start to wizen up. Eventually you find out what an average person earns in Colombia (or Brasil, DR, etc). At current exchange levels, the typical Colombian earns about $212/ month.
With time, guys also realize that paying more doesn't mean you get better service. It just lets the girl know that you don't know what's going on.
I love this video. Too bad the people who need to see it the most, probably will not watch it.SMH. Let's be fair about it then. Let's go back to the first time when it was reported that the going rate was 150 k plus taxi. Now we can add in for inflation each year and recalculate.
Roughly speaking, if the going rate was 150 k in 2010, the going rate today should be about 220 k. Right? The cost of everything else tracks upward with inflation, unless some market pressure is holding it back.
With Medellin Facebook girls, the market pressure should be moving with inflation. There are many more gringo tourists using Facebook now than 10 years ago. I believe the growth in consumers has exceeded the growth of suppliers. Prices should be rising faster than inflation.
When you also consider the exchange rate in 2010 was around 2,000 to 1, and now it's 4,000 to 1, if you're paying 200 k today for what you paid 150 k for in 2010, you're currently paying $50 for something that cost $75 ten years ago.
And complaining that it's getting too expensive.
PunkedLife
03-21-20, 21:00
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Amen brother, if I have to be quarantined I thank my lucky stars it is here and not in Europe or North America getting gouged by disaster profiteers.LOL. I think you're missing the point. You're glad you're there. I get that. But when it hits there look out. You may wish you were back getting gouged. When it gets bad in Colombia. Which is happening as we speak. It will be very very bad. I would be looking for a quiet place in the country. Get some groceries, hunker down. And be ready for a couple of months of solitude. I would not be in Medellin or Bogota.
I had to go into quarantine when I got back home. That is totally fine. If I was exposed in Colombia or on the way back at least I won't be infecting anyone else. It's going to be really bad in the US. Actually it already is. Will make Italy look like child's play. Italy is up to almost 1000 per day dying. New York and parts of California not far behind. Just days really. And Colombia will be the same within a week or two. Not deaths yet. But the increasing of infections. And deaths a week or two after that.
Right now increasing at about 15-20 percent per day in North America. Also there very likely. So act when you have a chance. Just my 2 cents worth.
PunkedLife,
A few corrections / clarifications:
There is a minimum wage in Colombia. You are correct that real earnings have not increased for Colombians in nearly 10 years. The same is also true in developed countries including Canada, the UK, and USA. It is a myth that foreigners who pay above market rates move the market, albeit a widely held myth. Two reasons it is not true are (1) there are not enough foreigner clients as compared to Colombian clients and (2) the rates at even New Life where there are more foreign clients than any other casas are in line with all other Centro casas. Energy, Aisha, etc in Laureles are also in line with each other, as is mileroticos, photoprepagos, and similar Internet services. The outliers are the facebook scene, Gustos / La Isla etc, and gringo centric pimps and hotels like the Mansion. Those outliers are exceptional and they are a market in and of themselves. Their prices could triple and it would make no difference to me, but that's just me. I should also mention another big difference between now and ten years ago. Venezuelans are here in bigger numbers than ever.
ColombiaLover
03-21-20, 22:50
Obviously we are paying less in $ due to the change in the exchange rate. I also remember when the exchange rate was about 1700 cop to the $1 and did not get any "discount" from the putas. The point of the video is that many, many guys are overpaying, other significantly. There is no doubt about it. I am not complaining about paying 150. I am just agreeing that there are a lot of idiots out there who make the repeat visitor's life just a little harder.
I should also say that when I first arrives in Medellin 15 years ago, there was no FB or Instagram. The prices I was paying was "set" by the Mansion at 150 (sometimes you could get for 120). It was artificial pricing set by the only place in town at the time. Obviously it was MUCH less in the casas and in Mayorista. And the exchange rate was about 2200, if I remember right. If we had FB back then, the price of the FB girl would have been much less than 150.
SMH. Let's be fair about it then. Let's go back to the first time when it was reported that the going rate was 150 k plus taxi. Now we can add in for inflation each year and recalculate.
Roughly speaking, if the going rate was 150 k in 2010, the going rate today should be about 220 k. Right? The cost of everything else tracks upward with inflation, unless some market pressure is holding it back.
With Medellin Facebook girls, the market pressure should be moving with inflation. There are many more gringo tourists using Facebook now than 10 years ago. I believe the growth in consumers has exceeded the growth of suppliers. Prices should be rising faster than inflation.
When you also consider the exchange rate in 2010 was around 2,000 to 1, and now it's 4,000 to 1, if you're paying 200 k today for what you paid 150 k for in 2010, you're currently paying $50 for something that cost $75 ten years ago.
And complaining that it's getting too expensive.
So is the conclusion that 150 is still the price to quote the putas? Several reports recently people have been paying 200/300.
Just want to clarify. I don't want to quote a fb girl 150 if the price is too cheap and she gets pissed off.
Obviously we are paying less in $ due to the change in the exchange rate. I also remember when the exchange rate was about 1700 cop to the $1 and did not get any "discount" from the putas. The point of the video is that many, many guys are overpaying, other significantly. There is no doubt about it. I am not complaining about paying 150. I am just agreeing that there are a lot of idiots out there who make the repeat visitor's life just a little harder.
I should also say that when I first arrives in Medellin 15 years ago, there was no FB or Instagram. The prices I was paying was "set" by the Mansion at 150 (sometimes you could get for 120). It was artificial pricing set by the only place in town at the time. Obviously it was MUCH less in the casas and in Mayorista. And the exchange rate was about 2200, if I remember right. If we had FB back then, the price of the FB girl would have been much less than 150.
I think I understand you to mean you feel more comfortable in the US. I respect that, I might feel the same way if I spent more of my formative years there. What confuses me is you say it's very bad there and getting worse. I also see in the media it is likely worse than anyone knows for lack of testing.
Here in Colombia there is widespread testing. The first confirmed case in Medellin fully recovered as of today after a 14 day quarantine. We are on lockdown but there are no toilet paper shortages, prices are stabilized, gasoline was reduced to US $2/ gallon by presidential decree. Restaurant delivery services are operating normally and restaurants that cater to Colombians in operation. The number confirmed cases as of today are low (196) but rising quickly. Zombie apocalypse fantasies aside, it has already hit here. I see Colombians respecting the quarantine and cooperating with each other. In US media I see crowded beaches, spring breakers doing what they do, and an explosion of gun sales. I weighed it all against my health, financial, and professional situation and decided to be here. That is my point.
LOL. I think you're missing the point. You're glad you're there. I get that. But when it hits there look out. You may wish you were back getting gouged. When it gets bad in Colombia. Which is happening as we speak. It will be very very bad. I would be looking for a quiet place in the country. Get some groceries, hunker down. And be ready for a couple of months of solitude. I would not be in Medellin or Bogota.
I had to go into quarantine when I got back home. That is totally fine. If I was exposed in Colombia or on the way back at least I won't be infecting anyone else. It's going to be really bad in the US. Actually it already is. Will make Italy look like child's play. Italy is up to almost 1000 per day dying. New York and parts of California not far behind. Just days really. And Colombia will be the same within a week or two. Not deaths yet. But the increasing of infections. And deaths a week or two after that.
Right now increasing at about 15-20 percent per day in North America. Also there very likely. So act when you have a chance. Just my 2 cents worth.
The Mansion was not the only place in town 15 years ago any more than it is today. It is and was the only place in town where, according to what I've read, English speaking owners hold your dick for you so you only have to remember to breathe while you are there.
Obviously we are paying less in $ due to the change in the exchange rate. I also remember when the exchange rate was about 1700 cop to the $1 and did not get any "discount" from the putas. The point of the video is that many, many guys are overpaying, other significantly. There is no doubt about it. I am not complaining about paying 150. I am just agreeing that there are a lot of idiots out there who make the repeat visitor's life just a little harder.
I should also say that when I first arrives in Medellin 15 years ago, there was no FB or Instagram. The prices I was paying was "set" by the Mansion at 150 (sometimes you could get for 120). It was artificial pricing set by the only place in town at the time. Obviously it was MUCH less in the casas and in Mayorista. And the exchange rate was about 2200, if I remember right. If we had FB back then, the price of the FB girl would have been much less than 150.
PolloNegro
03-21-20, 23:48
Amen brother, if I have to be quarantined I thank my lucky stars it is here and not in Europe or North America getting gouged by disaster profiteers.One of my favorite girls came by today at 12 noon and I banged her brains out for about 4 hours? I thought everything was on lock down until Tuesday, but clearly she knows how to get out and get to me. As long as she comes to me and I don't have to leave my castle, I am a happy little king. 18 years old with a butt to die for and knows how to blow a flute, I can clearly say Amen, 2 times, this girl is a certified flute blower and a genuine pony rider. 4 hours, all for a crispy $100,000 mil. Life is Good here in Medellin. Pollo Negro is out!
SlapShot10
03-22-20, 00:59
So, I did it, I shacked-up. 20 yo from Bello / La Estrella, super cute, tall, natural, light skinned, brown hair, and she brings life into this shitty situation.
She has taken over the master bathroom (luckily I have 4), and bought enough makeup to last the rest of the year, but. I offered her 500 k + food for the quarantine. We'll have her kitten here, in a few days.
I got a lot of pressure from family to come home, but I just don't see the sense in traveling, at this time. I'm ok waiting this out, long-term. At some point, I'll need to consider the tourist visa / stay issue, but I feel extremely comfortable in my penthouse, with more amenities than anyone needs, and this cute bundle of fun. We woke up this morning and decided we needed to use the Merqueo app (she told me about it), to order food. 23 more days, minimum, is just insane, to me. I didn't want to wait until Tues / Weds when the majority of people will be stocking-up. So, we took over an hour to compose a delivery list, only to find out the service was too busy and not available. So, we ended up taking the option to go to the grocery store. We prepped a story as to not appear we were breaking the, "one person per household" rule, which was pretty easy since I'm a gringo in Poblado and she has a cedula from La Estrella. Anyhow, Exito Wow was unbelievably empty, given the circumstances. We loaded a cart to the brim, and I feel really confident in being able to ride this out, for the time being. I understand it's a fluid situation, and indefinite travel restrictions could shake all involved, but I'm ok with it.
I can't imagine having to be alone for 25 days. Right now, I just wrapped up work, and was browsing the latest Medellin, Colombia, coronavirus news, and jumped on ISG to see if there was any local info. She is watching some Spanish show on Netflix. She just gave herself a full spa day. Nails, creams, etc. We have plenty of alcohol, along with some massage oil and whipped cream. I think it would take a really really bad turn for the worse to make me feel like I made the wrong decision in staying here. Also, I had a blast last night making some steaks, having some drinks, and staring at a tv playing a Spanish series, while her head was on my lap. I've been known to take a risk or 5,000 in my life, and this will just be another one to add to the list. Much like when I am 12 beers deep and make a live sports bet on Tennis being played in Australia. I feel pretty good about this one! Let's see how it plays out.
Interested to hear what others are up to, if you are living full-time in Medellin, decided to stick it out, or are stuck here. Anyone eyeing that Tues-Weds non-quarantine window as an opportunity to hit casas, or anything? Going back to my original decision to shack-up, I just wasn't sure if girls would be willing or able to travel in and out, during the quarantine. And that was when it was only 4-5 days! Anyone having any luck or hesitancy with this?
Cheers from my own personal heaven!
Obviously we are paying less in $ due to the change in the exchange rate. I also remember when the exchange rate was about 1700 cop to the $1 and did not get any "discount" from the putas. The point of the video is that many, many guys are overpaying, other significantly. There is no doubt about it. I am not complaining about paying 150. I am just agreeing that there are a lot of idiots out there who make the repeat visitor's life just a little harder.
I should also say that when I first arrives in Medellin 15 years ago, there was no FB or Instagram. The prices I was paying was "set" by the Mansion at 150 (sometimes you could get for 120). It was artificial pricing set by the only place in town at the time. Obviously it was MUCH less in the casas and in Mayorista. And the exchange rate was about 2200, if I remember right. If we had FB back then, the price of the FB girl would have been much less than 150.I don't like using "Simp" because IMO it's generally newbies that are foolish with overpaying, and we're all newbies once. However, defending giving them more because of the favorable exchange rate is pretty simpish. The exchange rate is irrelevant. These girls don't pay for anything in USD.
I like what you did. The financial terms are very reasonable. Unfortunately for me I have to work all week so even without the lockdown I would have limited chica time. I do have a couple of dates lined up Tuesday. A D1 clerk told me they will be open every day during the lockdown. I saw many people carrying Exito bags so I assume they will open as well. Rappi and uber eats are in full operation.
So, I did it, I shacked-up. 20 yo from Bello / La Estrella, super cute, tall, natural, light skinned, brown hair, and she brings life into this shitty situation.
She has taken over the master bathroom (luckily I have 4), and bought enough makeup to last the rest of the year, but. I offered her 500 k + food for the quarantine. We'll have her kitten here, in a few days.
I got a lot of pressure from family to come home, but I just don't see the sense in traveling, at this time. I'm ok waiting this out, long-term. At some point, I'll need to consider the tourist visa / stay issue, but I feel extremely comfortable in my penthouse, with more amenities than anyone needs, and this cute bundle of fun. We woke up this morning and decided we needed to use the Merqueo app (she told me about it), to order food. 23 more days, minimum, is just insane, to me. I didn't want to wait until Tues / Weds when the majority of people will be stocking-up. So, we took over an hour to compose a delivery list, only to find out the service was too busy and not available. So, we ended up taking the option to go to the grocery store. We prepped a story as to not appear we were breaking the, "one person per household" rule, which was pretty easy since I'm a gringo in Poblado and she has a cedula from La Estrella..
ColombiaLover
03-22-20, 01:54
I personally pay 150 mil and sometimes throw in taxi, depending. But that is me. I visit once a month (streak probably going to get broken soon) and I have been visiting for 15 years.
A lot of girls will take 150 and provide great service. You might even get less (although I never push it, because I think 150 is fair). A lot of the girls want 200 (need to inquire as to whether that includes the taxi or they want taxi in addition). If she's hot or known for great service, maybe you pay it because you don't go often. I personally would never pay more than 200. For any of them. That's just me.
When I first talk to a girl, I often ask her to tell me what she expects. That helps me gauge the girl. When they give me a high number, I just laugh and tell them I am not a stupid gringo and I tell them what I usually pay for great service. Some do not count, but most often fall in line.
If you are offering to see a casa girl at your apartment. Or a stripper. Then I would give them less. Because it's still a lot more than what they get at work.
So is the conclusion that 150 is still the price to quote the putas? Several reports recently people have been paying 200/300.
Just want to clarify. I don't want to quote a fb girl 150 if the price is too cheap and she gets pissed off.
ColombiaLover
03-22-20, 01:57
I totally agree that the exchange rate has nothing to do with what we (should) pay. When it was 1700, I obviously had a choice to pay more in USD or cut back on quantity. My recollection is that I just bit the bullet and paid more in USD by banging as much as I could at 150.
I don't like using "Simp" because IMO it's generally newbies that are foolish with overpaying, and we're all newbies once. However, defending giving them more because of the favorable exchange rate is pretty simpish. The exchange rate is irrelevant. These girls don't pay for anything in USD.
If you are offering to see a casa girl at your apartment. Or a stripper. Then I would give them less. Because it's still a lot more than what they get at work.I still give them 150 mil, especially if they treat me right, which they do, otherwise I wouldn't be inviting them over in the first place.
Mojo Bandit
03-22-20, 02:27
So, I did it, I shacked-up. 20 yo from Bello / La Estrella, super cute, tall, natural, light skinned, brown hair, and she brings life into this shitty situation.
We loaded a cart to the brim, and I feel really confident in being able to ride this out, for the time being. I understand it's a fluid situation, and indefinite travel restrictions could shake all involved, but I'm ok with it.
Cheers from my own personal heaven!Envy I am green with Envy. Stuck in USA.
So, I did it, I shacked-up. 20 yo from Bello / La Estrella, super cute, tall, natural, light skinned, brown hair, and she brings life into this shitty situation.
Cheers from my own personal heaven!Well, I don't know about the rest of your guys, but I'm jealous as hell. Cheers SlapShot!
This video should be shown in airplane monitors prior to touchdown in all Colombian airports.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX73layhN1k&feature=youtu.be
Thailand and Cambodia should be included in the groupIt should be shown at first year economics courses on what ignorant advice sounds like.
Interested to hear what others are up to, if you are living full-time in Medellin, decided to stick it out, or are stuck here. Anyone eyeing that Tues-Weds non-quarantine window as an opportunity to hit casas, or anything? I live here. Chillin with my GF at my place until Tuesday, then she'll go back home. Didn't think about casas on Tuesday, but that is an idea.
I personally pay 150 mil and sometimes throw in taxi, depending. But that is me. I visit once a month (streak probably going to get broken soon) and I have been visiting for 15 years.
A lot of girls will take 150 and provide great service. You might even get less (although I never push it, because I think 150 is fair). A lot of the girls want 200 (need to inquire as to whether that includes the taxi or they want taxi in addition). If she's hot or known for great service, maybe you pay it because you don't go often. I personally would never pay more than 200. For any of them. That's just me.
When I first talk to a girl, I often ask her to tell me what she expects. That helps me gauge the girl. When they give me a high number, I just laugh and tell them I am not a stupid gringo and I tell them what I usually pay for great service. Some do not count, but most often fall in line.
If you are offering to see a casa girl at your apartment. Or a stripper. Then I would give them less. Because it's still a lot more than what they get at work.Do you realize in thailand $60 get you 12 hours with a girl. That alone speaks volume. I have been here 21 days spent 200 mil once, 150 mil once, 120 mil 3 times. Rest 100 mil or less.
I think I understand you to mean you feel more comfortable in the US. I respect that, I might feel the same way if I spent more of my formative years there. What confuses me is you say it's very bad there and getting worse. I also see in the media it is likely worse than anyone knows for lack of testing.
Here in Colombia there is widespread testing. The first confirmed case in Medellin fully recovered as of today after a 14 day quarantine. We are on lockdown but there are no toilet paper shortages, prices are stabilized, gasoline was reduced to US $2/ gallon by presidential decree. Restaurant delivery services are operating normally and restaurants that cater to Colombians in operation. The number confirmed cases as of today are low (196) but rising quickly. Zombie apocalypse fantasies aside, it has already hit here. I see Colombians respecting the quarantine and cooperating with each other. In US media I see crowded beaches, spring breakers doing what they do, and an explosion of gun sales. I weighed it all against my health, financial, and professional situation and decided to be here. That is my point.I left Colombia a week ago last Sunday and had a return flight for Thursday night which I could of taken to return to Colombia before Colombia shut it's International airspace down on Friday and initiated it's lock-down orders. Guys I know currently in Medellin who are not on this board, are not happy campers, basically being shuttered in their apartments. I believe I made the right call going home, but am not sure as of yet. Here in California we are kinda locked down, and are allowed to spend time outdoors as long as we maintain a minimum of six feet from anyone unless its a family member. And as of it yet there is no "enforcement".
All restaurants are closed except for take out, the situation at the markets is getting back to normal somewhat as everyone has stocked up on supplies and now the shelves are starting to fill up again with all the hording, etc. Being over.
I believe Colombia has done a much better job than the US in managing things thus far, having testing available, shutting the border down quickly, and other measures.
However the true test will be how Colombia fares when there is an avalanche of hospital patients. Time will only tell, and the USA is not even close to being ready as evidenced by the shortage of PPE, respirators, and ventilators.
And to top this off, the Governor of California said he was estimating that 56% of the States population, approximately 20,000,000 would be infected if no lock-down measures were taken, and then during the morning briefing by the Federal Government today, we were told the risk to Americans was low. And then we have the Country's top scientist refute things our leader is saying during the briefing. So besides the pure facts and figures, we have lots of confusing information being put out there, which is befuddling given it's contradictory nature.
I hope Colombia is spared of the Holocaust taking place in Italy which appears to be the way the USA is headed.
Mr Enternational
03-22-20, 05:21
Do you realize in thailand $60 get you 12 hours with a girl.If I had to pay $60 for a chick I would have been out of Thailand a long time ago. In 15 years I have never given a chick that much money. The minimum wage here is $10 per day and you MIGHT get that much only if you are at least a high school graduate.
The other night me and my nephew got 2 chicks at 9 pm. We took them back home at 6 pm the next day. I gave mine $40 and he gave his $40. I had made the original deal for $30 as you can see in the picture, but since we kept them much later into the next day I threw in extra.
It should be shown at first year economics courses on what ignorant advice sounds like.I agree, this guys' view is myopic. Actually there is a chapter in Adam Smith's "The Wealth of Nation" that describes this precise way of flawed thinking. It is remarkable how a landmark book first publish in 1776 captures the modern day mentality of fellow mongers.
This dude's core message sounded like this: "I know there are people who are willing and can afford to pay the girls in Medellin more, if we are in true free market, those girls intrinsically worth more. Fellow mongers, let's hide the true economic from those teenager girls, we will exploit them until the day they realize their self-worth. Furthermore, I have absolutely not ability to earn more income, so I will pin my only hope of enjoyment on exploit those teenage girls in the third world. Despite the increase in minimal wage in the states, let's all work together to make sure those girls earn the least possible. " If you ask me, he is definitely a spy send from either North Korea and Cuba.
AdventureSeekr
03-22-20, 13:57
So, I did it, I shacked-up. 20 yo from Bello / La Estrella, super cute, tall, natural, light skinned, brown hair, and she brings life into this shitty situation.
I think you're doing it right man. Having different girls come and go is a bad move. If I decided to stay in Medellin to ride it out for a few months, I would have easily, without any hesitation, picked my #1 chica and had her stay the entire time with me. Way better than being alone and far safer to just have one chica with you. Enjoy!!
That is the situation here. You can get away with being out to buy food, walk your dog, etc. It's about the same as the restrictions in the US and elsewhere. There are no toilet paper shortages that I notice. I didn't understand what was behind that until I saw a report that diarrhea is one of the early symptoms. I expect the situation will be more clear within a week or two as we approach the April 13 targeted end of the lockdown.
I left Colombia a week ago last Sunday and had a return flight for Thursday night which I could of taken to return to Colombia before Colombia shut it's International airspace down on Friday and initiated it's lock-down orders. Guys I know currently in Medellin who are not on this board, are not happy campers, basically being shuttered in their apartments. I believe I made the right call going home, but am not sure as of yet. Here in California we are kinda locked down, and are allowed to spend time outdoors as long as we maintain a minimum of six feet from anyone unless its a family member. And as of it yet there is no "enforcement".
All restaurants are closed except for take out, the situation at the markets is getting back to normal somewhat as everyone has stocked up on supplies and now the shelves are starting to fill up again with all the hording, etc. Being over.
the true test will be how Colombia fares when there is an avalanche of hospital patients. Time will only tell,....lots of confusing information being put out there, which is befuddling given it's contradictory nature.hope Colombia is spared of the Holocaust taking place in Italy which appears to be the way the USA is headed.Unlike Italy, Colombia had been spared an avalanche of Chinese tourism, hence no virus epidemic to date. Once this passes and the confusing information is clarified, correct assessment will be made and the Chinese will have a lot to answer for.
I don't expect many to open Tuesday but I could be all wrong about that. It's been several days since most of these girls have made any money. Zandaly joined New Life by shutting down "until further notice".
I live here. Chillin with my GF at my place until Tuesday, then she'll go back home. Didn't think about casas on Tuesday, but that is an idea.
Obviously we are paying less in $ due to the change in the exchange rate. I also remember when the exchange rate was about 1700 cop to the $1 and did not get any "discount" from the putas. The point of the video is that many, many guys are overpaying, other significantly. There is no doubt about it. I am not complaining about paying 150. I am just agreeing that there are a lot of idiots out there who make the repeat visitor's life just a little harder.
I should also say that when I first arrives in Medellin 15 years ago, there was no FB or Instagram. The prices I was paying was "set" by the Mansion at 150 (sometimes you could get for 120). It was artificial pricing set by the only place in town at the time. Obviously it was MUCH less in the casas and in Mayorista. And the exchange rate was about 2200, if I remember right. If we had FB back then, the price of the FB girl would have been much less than 150.This is my (admittedly, completely uninformed) opinion. I believe the Facebook scene developed from the Mansion. If I'm correct, I doubt if the price would have been much less. Perhaps as low as 100 k for someone who wasn't at the Mansion.
I think you made my point. 15 years ago the casa prices were lower. 15 years ago the strip club prices were lower. 15 years ago the street girl prices were lower. 15 years ago the gringo entry prices (the Mansion then, Facebook now) were basically the same. I'm pretty sure the room rates at the Mansion were lower 15 years ago as well.
So, it gets more difficult for the frequent visitor, or the expat to pay the same price as 15 years ago. You remember 1700 - 1, I remember 1900 - 1. Either way, even if you pay 200 k now, for what you paid 150 k for then, you're getting the same package for almost half price, based on your income, while the girl is charging about 15% less based upon her cost of living.
Nothing exists in a vacuum. Either the price will eventually go up, or the service will go down.
Charm City Dave
03-22-20, 18:42
Unlike Italy, Colombia had been spared an avalanche of Chinese tourism, hence no virus epidemic to date. Once this passes and the confusing information is clarified, correct assessment will be made and the Chinese will have a lot to answer for.Colombia has 210 confirmed cases and most likely thousands of undiagnosed people walking around spreading the virus. The difference in Chinese tourism simply means Colombia is just earlier on an inevitable curve that Italy is further along on.
I hope I am wrong, but doubt it.
So is the conclusion that 150 is still the price to quote the putas? Several reports recently people have been paying 200/300.
Just want to clarify. I don't want to quote a fb girl 150 if the price is too cheap and she gets pissed off.First to clear something up. I'm not saying guys shouldn't be paying 150 k. All I'm saying is that the prices will go up. My opinion is that 200-250 k will be the new normal within 6 months after things return to normal.
1. The girls know the exchange rate.
2. Many will find other ways to make money.
3. There will be a bunch of horny customers with money to spend.
Back to your question.
Everyone has their own way. My way is to exchange a few messages. Usually the girl will say something like "quiero verte", or "quiero conocerte. " I want to see you, or I want to know you. Either one can be translated to mean "I'm available if you're paying. " If she doesn't toss that out and I'm seriously interested, I'll say it. "Puedo verte?" Can I see you. If she's not enthusiastic, I move along.
Here's the part where there's disagreement. Some guys flat out state the price they will pay. I instead ask. "Cuantos quieres", "que necesitas", or "cuantos cuestas?" How much do you want, what do you need, or how much does it cost? Her initial price determines my response.
Once again, just my opinion, but this puts her in the hot seat. She has to weigh how bad she needs the money against how much she thinks she can get. If I instead just throw out my bottom line price, she's only thinking about how much she wanted to get. The other side is occasionally a girl is expecting less than your opening offer. I've had a couple tell me 100 k, when I was preparing my argument to get them to accept 150 k.
Scenario 1- Her price is much higher than I expected.
Let's say she tosses out a price of 400 k or more. My reply might be "Entiendo. Eres muy hermosa. Lo siento. Solo un viejo pobre. Siempre pago dos cientos mil. " I understand. You're very beautiful. I'm sorry, I'm just a poor, old man. I always pay 200 k. She tried her highball price. I gave her my price and she's not offended. Chances are, she's trying to decide whether to take it, or try to get a taxi fare thrown in.
Scenario 2 - Her price is slightly higher than expected.
She offers 200-250 k, I'll give her "siempre pago ciento cinquenta mil, mas taxi. " I always pay 150 k plus taxi. Chances are she's happy to accept it.
I begin with "siempre", because it immediately says, "this isn't my first time. I know the price. " It also says "you'll probably be seeing me again in the future. " You're no longer a gringo rookie, who will be gone tomorrow. You're an option.
You're probably not going to piss her off by offering 150 k. Unless you tell her she's not worth that much.
I really get tired of the minimum wage argument from some of the guys here. These girls need to make as much as possible while they are young. They should charge as much as the free market can stand. Their beauty is short lived and then what. Would you screw strangers for 8. 25 an hour US. You will have to pay at minimum 200 an hour in the US for a attractive girl. That's 25 times minimum wage. If minimum wage in a country is 2. 00 that's 50.00. If its 3. 00 that's 75.00. 50 to 75 is about what I pay for a girl to come to my room worldwide. I was with a 19 yo girl in Brazil 15 years ago. World class natural tits. Even Sperto would have been impressed. Within 3 years she was shot. Gained 40 pounds. I completely lost interest. What do you think that girl is doing now. She can't be more attractive than her 19 yo self. She would be 35 now. How much weight has she gained now. Did she know her value at that time? IDK. I paid her 200 reals for a few hours. Exchange rate back then was 3 to 1. So that's about 65 dollars. Some cheap ass mongers would of tried to justify paying even less than that. They would have tried to get her to go for 100 reals which she wouldn't have and used the minimum wage argument. You know what I got for 200 reals. One of the greatest memories of a girl that I still remember 15 years later.
I had a guy in front of help tell me he never offers more than 100 reals. The entrance fee was 35 to 45 reals. Needless to say this guy was either lying or banging crack working girls.
Because I don't know a attractive girl that would go for 55 reals which is what she would make after entrance fee.
Sure these girls don't make as much at a casa and I personally would be on tinder making money and picking the guys I want to sleep with. Remember the casa quote is 30 minutes. With condom. To get a girl to come to your hotel for an hour BBBJ is going to be more than the casa price. 150 k to 200 k seems fair for that. It's a way better service and more time. If girls at gusto can get 200 us, then more power to them. I wouldn't pay that, but if there are guys that pay that to them, why all the hate. They are only young once, and the guy can't take the money with him when he dies. Ask Steve Jobs. They are wealthier men that maybe don't like the casa lineup BS which I don't either. Bottom line is quit hating. Don't overpay but don't underpay because time goes by quick and money is meaningless in the scheme of things.
I don't like using "Simp" because IMO it's generally newbies that are foolish with overpaying, and we're all newbies once. However, defending giving them more because of the favorable exchange rate is pretty simpish. The exchange rate is irrelevant. These girls don't pay for anything in USD.I'm not defending paying them more based on the exchange rate. If I was doing that, I'd point out that a comparable girl in the US charges $300 per hour, and since most Medellin chicas will stay for 2 or more hours, we should all be paying 2 million pesos.
I'm saying the "that price can never go up" attitude is a simplistic view of the situation. Casa prices go up, strip club prices go up, street girl prices go up, taxis, buses and metro prices go up. Food, rent, utilities, clothing, medical. All these prices go up. Go to a car dealer. Show him the price for a car in 2010 and tell him you are only going to pay that price. Think you'll be driving home in a new car?
Yet for some reason, when the price Facebook girls charge goes up, it's because guys are overpaying? Is that how things work? Why isn't everyone up in arms about the people who have been overpaying for beef, driving the prices up? Or the people overpaying for surgery driving the prices up? It doesn't work that way.
Twenty years ago I was a fixture at an Albuquerque strip club. Not just any strip club, it was the best in town. Everyone knew me. Half the time, the DJ would announce me when I came in. Occasionally, the chef would bring out some new dish he was working on and ask my opinion. The top dancer became a good friend and I was friends with several other dancers. Even rented a room to a few of them. At least once a week I'd have lunch or dinner with a dancer. Most paid for their own meal. One always paid for mine. I was as connected to the club as anyone. I saw and heard what went on.
Every now and then someone would come in and start throwing money. The girls would all flock to the guy to get their share. Many would easily make $1,000 from 1 guy in a few hours, without breaking the rules. My friend the top dancer had a few regulars who would drop a grand on her every time.
And then the next day. Everything went back to normal. The dancers all talked about the guy and went back to collecting those $1 bills.
If someone comes along paying 300 k, a girl will take it. Then she'll ask the next guy for 300 k. How long do you think she's going to sit at home hoping to get 300 k? If that's how it worked we'd all be paying $200, because there are plenty paying that much and every girl knows about it.
All you have to do is say no thanks and move along. She'll be chasing after your 150 k before you know it.
Unlike Italy, Colombia had been spared an avalanche of Chinese tourism, hence no virus epidemic to date. Once this passes and the confusing information is clarified, correct assessment will be made and the Chinese will have a lot to answer for.What the Chinese have to answer for was muzzling the Doctor who discovered it and tried to warn everyone and died from it. Or perhaps they killed him at only 39 years old, it's all just to weird.
AdventureSeekr
03-22-20, 19:41
Colombia has 210 confirmed cases and most likely thousands of undiagnosed people walking around spreading the virus. The difference in Chinese tourism simply means Colombia is just earlier on an inevitable curve that Italy is further along on.
I hope I am wrong, but doubt it.No, you're right. People have been saying this since China was the only country with confirmed cases. Look where we are today. It's obvious.
Do you realize in thailand $60 get you 12 hours with a girl. That alone speaks volume. I have been here 21 days spent 200 mil once, 150 mil once, 120 mil 3 times. Rest 100 mil or less.Do you realize, in the US, $300 gets you 1 hour with a girl? Does that also speak volumes? I remember Navy buddies telling me that $20 would get you a week with a girl, in the Philippines, who would also cook and clean for you. What does that say?
It says nothing. You can't do an apples to apples comparison when your apple trees are on 2 different continents. You also can't do an apples to apples comparison, when one of your trees only produces oranges.
If you want Thailand prices, go to Thailand. If you want casa prices, go to a casa. You're guaranteed to pay a casa price. If you want to pay casa prices for Facebook girls, figure it up right. The casa takes half, the girl has to spend most of her day waiting around, doing lineups and hoping to get picked. So figure for every 3 hours at the casa she's making 50 k, perhaps 150 k for a good day. Now tell the Facebook girls you'll pay 150 k, no more for taxi, they'll have to stay 8 hours and you require at least 6 sessions.
Then go to a casa.
What you pay is what you pay. Nothing more. I had a girl insist on 250 k. I paid it and felt like I got my money's worth. A few months later she came over for 90 k. The next week someone else paid her 200 k.
Find what satisfies you. Find the price point you're comfortable with. Then figure out a way to get satisfaction at your price. Don't worry about what someone else is paying. Don't worry about the service they are getting. Don't worry that his girls might look better or worse than your girls. Just do you.
I don't think Colombia will be spared. Anyone who was here last week knows there was plenty of close contact up until this week's lockdown. I am hopeful the German situation may work in Colombia's favor. In Germany, where there is as much or more testing than in southern Europe (Italy and Spain) there are more confirmed cases but much fewer hospitalizations and deaths. The same is true on a per capita basis compared with Wuhan and the rest of China. I've spent a good amount of time in China, including during the height of the SARS epidemic in Shanghai. My impression is the general health of the Colombian population and the quality of health care in Colombia (especially in big cities) is closer to Germany's than it is to Italy / Spain / China. In the US I really worry about the sky high rates of diabetes, obesity, and heart disease. It makes the population more vulnerable. We will see soon enough.
Today I notice a bit of normalization of the lockdown in Medellin. The people are complying substantially. You can cross Avenida Poblado without looking. Even the ciclovia was harder to cross. It's not allowed but I saw couples shopping at Exito. It's supposed to be one person per household but how do you enforce that really. The shelves are fully stocked. There is a lot more merchandise than customers. I suspect that it is because unlike in the US, people here who haven't worked in weeks in some cases don't have money to buy anything. I walked straight to a cashier without waiting on line. That's unheard of even on Sunday at the Exito on la 70.
TelelMedellin passed along a government announcement that discouraged people from coming out in droves on Tuesday before the 19 day lockdown takes effect. Based on my whatsapp there might be a rush of girls looking for dates. I plan to get to bed early Monday.
Colombia has 210 confirmed cases and most likely thousands of undiagnosed people walking around spreading the virus. The difference in Chinese tourism simply means Colombia is just earlier on an inevitable curve that Italy is further along on.
I hope I am wrong, but doubt it.
That is the situation here. You can get away with being out to buy food, walk your dog, etc. It's about the same as the restrictions in the US and elsewhere. There are no toilet paper shortages that I notice. I didn't understand what was behind that until I saw a report that diarrhea is one of the early symptoms. I expect the situation will be more clear within a week or two as we approach the April 13 targeted end of the lockdown.I suggest you stock up on as much as you can which you probably already have, because when they extend the lock-down, not "if", in my opinion, it will be total mayhem.
I have no idea what El Centro is like, and since your on the ground there, hopefully you can figure a way to go there with out a problem if it still is a viable option somehow.
The Venezuelans must be going crazy there, and my bet is you could easily get as many as you wanted if they were available.
Hopefully you have some fully vetted ones in your line up you can call. If not, my bet is there is a ton of FayBoo and Tinder Chicas available.
You could easily have them travel by Taxi to a market or store close to where you live, meet them there, and then walk separately to your place not to violate the one person shopping rule I heard about.
If I was there, I would rotate them into my apartment, albeit the Portero's would be giving me some funny looks with the parade of Chicas coming and going, but who gives a shit with what's happening now.
I am sure your figuring your options out, and please keep reporting on what's going on there.
Everyone wants to complain about people overpaying. It's ruining things, it'll turn into another Costa Rica, stop overpaying.
Why do you go to Colombia? Cheap pussy? You can get cheap pussy anywhere, free pussy. Ah. Cheap, beautiful pussy that's loving and affectionate. So it's not just the cheap part.
Guess what. Pussy in Colombia is getting cheaper. Cheap is a value that only has meaning in relation to your income. $20 pussy isn't cheap to the Indonesian farmer making $2 per day. It's not cheap to the Colombian laborer making $15 per day. With the improvement in the exchange rate, the cost of that pussy went down, from the perspective of your income. I'm not justifying girls charging more. I'm just saying you are paying less.
If someone pays more, it doesn't change what you pay, especially if you're a frequent visitor. You can still find your price point. For the foreseeable future the pussy will remain cheap.
Which brings us to the rest of it, the "beautiful, loving and affectionate" part. I think we can agree you don't want to pay $40 for a 40 year old, toothless meth addict. Otherwise you would just stay home. The good news is, the pussy in Colombia will remain beautiful. All that's left is "loving and affectionate. "
Which is worth more to you: a girl who makes out with you like your prom date, or a girl who informs you it costs extra to kiss her?
I think most of us go for the GFE. If we wanted a mechanical fuck, we'd all be married. It's the passion which makes it worth the trip. Prices can and will go up. Other than some minor grumbling, everyone will still be fine, as long as the passion remains. As soon as the passion goes, it's no longer worth it.
What kills passion? Turning it into a job, takes the passion away. For the day traders out there, would you rather be on your own, making your trades, or in an office, with someone criticizing and questioning every transaction? In the first case, you've got excitement. In the second, boredom.
Same with the girls. A few guys understand. They set a mood, they treat it as a courtship rather than a transaction. They allow the girls to relax, get comfortable and enjoy themselves. While the passion may be faked, they are at least going to the trouble to fake it.
A few guys treat it different. They have a list of requirements, the whole event is choreographed, each item is checked off. Instead of the girls getting into it, they're just doing their job. They may still fake passion, but it's because they think it will be finished quicker. If the girl misses something on the checklist, pay gets docked.
Is it any wonder girls want to charge extra for everything? Is it any wonder they get bad attitudes? Add to that the occasional guy who belittles them over everything and the passion is gone.
In your opinion which is worse:
1. Paying 20-25% more for a girl who makes you believe that she's enjoying herself more than you are?
2. Paying the same price for a girl who allows no kissing, no DATY, no FIV, no BBBJ and is constantly reminding you of how much time you have left?
Treat them with respect. Be nice, polite, complimentary. Make them feel valued instead of abused. You'll get much more out of it than spending an hour arguing over a few dollars.
Mr Enternational
03-22-20, 21:16
I'm saying the "that price can never go up" attitude is a simplistic view of the situation. Casa prices go up, strip club prices go up, street girl prices go up, taxis, buses and metro prices go up. Food, rent, utilities, clothing, medical. All these prices go up. Go to a car dealer. Show him the price for a car in 2010 and tell him you are only going to pay that price. Think you'll be driving home in a new car?So why did the price of TVs go down? LOL.
Interested to hear what others are up to, if you are living full-time in Medellin, decided to stick it out, or are stuck here. Anyone eyeing that Tues-Weds non-quarantine window as an opportunity to hit casas, or anything? The non-quarantine window has been closed. So the current quarantine will last until April 13.
What the Chinese have to answer for was muzzling the Doctor who discovered it and tried to warn everyone and died from it. Or perhaps they killed him at only 39 years old, it's all just to weird.Chinese are already answering for that. The guy is a hero. And the people know what happened. Ie. That they wanted him to stfu in December, but partly because of him they did something about it. And they have been very successful it seems.
As for blame. Blame the virus. Other viruses have done this in other parts of the world. Most of our colds and flu have animal co-hosts (birds for flu for example). The evolution of a new one is very unfortunate, and the Chinese are already in the process of getting rid of the types of markets where this seems to have started. They banned the civets after the first SARS. Anyway. Whether it evolves in Saudi Arabia (MERS), China (Covid, SARS) or Kansas (1918 flu. One of 3 possible locations) they are terrible.
This concept that some guys overpaying is driving up prices is assinine. You think when Charlie sheen is paying 1 k dollars to girls in mexico he is driving up prices. Those girls know he is a exception. They know when they find a guy that pays 200 dollars that is a exception. It all averages out to them. Sometimes they are with me for 75 and sometimes 300 with someone else, and then a whale comes in like Sheen or Bieber and pays 1 k. Each interaction is different depending on how you look, and how they feel around you. I don't do honk Kong anymore in Tijuana but I was able to get girls for 60 and guys are now paying 80 and 100. I read that Beiber went to Centaurus in Brazil and the girls wanted 1200 to go to Copacabana palace for the night. He picked about 3 girls and left. Was he played for a sucker?? No, Because they knew he was a multimillionaire and he would say yes. 3600 to Beiber is pocket change. Are they going to ask 1200 for the next regular Joe that asks how much to go to the hotel. Hell no. They know they can't get it. They go back to the going rate that is reasonable.
So why did the price of TVs go down? LOL.Care to point out the location of the Chinese factories mass producing Colombian prostitutes? I'll just order directly from them. You can be absolutely certain that Trump didn't stick a tariff on Chinese made Colombian hookers.
Do you think they're building other models too? I'm sure it would be cheaper than flying to Brazil, to just browse the Chinese catalog. How about custom orders? An Irish face, with some Japanese titties, Colombian ass and Chinese feet? The mind boggles at the possibility?
I can just see all the old Chinese factory workers coming home after 12 hours on the vagina assembly line. You know their fingers are all pruney.
I never believed the window was real. It made no sense. I notice more and more stores opening since the quarantine started. Bakeries, corner stores, and cafes like tostao block sell from a counter that blocks the entrance. Walk up and delivery only. It doesn't violate the spirit of the quarantine. It's supposed to be one person per household who buys stuff and no groups sitting around drinking like usual.
The non-quarantine window has been closed. So the current quarantine will last until April 13.
I'm not defending paying them more based on the exchange rate. If I was doing that, I'd point out that a comparable girl in the US charges $300 per hour, and since most Medellin chicas will stay for 2 or more hours, we should all be paying 2 million pesos.A comparable girl in San Francisco will cost 800 dollars per hour, and she will be full of attitude. 300 dollars is good for a girl in her late 20's to early 30's who gives decent service (complete subpar compared to fb girls from Medellin). Asian girls in the US is a bit more affordable, about 220-250 dollars per hour, you get a decent looking Korean girl in her 30's who give pretty good service, still nowhere near the fb girl experience.
A friend of mine who lives in Laureles told me that on Sunday afternoon there were helicopters flying overhead telling people to stay in doors.
PunkedLife
03-22-20, 23:19
This is my (admittedly, completely uninformed) opinion. I believe the Facebook scene developed from the Mansion. If I'm correct, I doubt if the price would have been much less. Perhaps as low as 100 k for someone who wasn't at the Mansion.
I think you made my point. 15 years ago the casa prices were lower. 15 years ago the strip club prices were lower. 15 years ago the street girl prices were lower. 15 years ago the gringo entry prices (the Mansion then, Facebook now) were basically the same. I'm pretty sure the room rates at the Mansion were lower 15 years ago as well.
So, it gets more difficult for the frequent visitor, or the expat to pay the same price as 15 years ago. You remember 1700 - 1, I remember 1900 - 1. Either way, even if you pay 200 k now, for what you paid 150 k for then, you're getting the same package for almost half price, based on your income, while the girl is charging about 15% less based upon her cost of living.
Nothing exists in a vacuum. Either the price will eventually go up, or the service will go down.The cost of living doesn't warrant such high price quotes. Look where the majority of these women are living. In low-income barrios with the bare minimum for the BARE minimum. If they live in those areas then they are most definitely shopping for food and other necessities for the bare minimum. I get that price does increase over time but where I disagree is how exponentially it seems to increase. Things don't change that rapidly in a decade in these countries. The overall population doesn't make enough money to make that possible. So her making double what she used to make 10 years ago might seem reasonable for a foreigner but when you look at where she lives then that story goes out the window. And don't use that whole number of hours she stays with you as an argument because I have spent days in Centro and nights in Poblado. So I know from experience that these girls can be walking the streets or even in clubs like Conejitas and not get a single date. So they waste all their time and return home empty-handed. So if they end up spending a few hours with you in a room with AC, getting to drink your beer, eat whatever food you have to offer her, and maybe fucking you for a few 20 minutes sessions (let's face it not many guys are fucking for a complete HR or longer) then she is doing way better than standing on one spot or walking in loops hoping some guy scoops her up. So unless you are getting her to film videos, nude pics, anal, or absolutely everything you want then she doesn't deserve any extra funds just based on the number of hours she happens to spend with you. And if you are paying for anything less than exactly what you want then you're doing it wrong because there are so many women out there that they shouldn't be dictating how your fantasy should go. Remember they ain't y'all girlfriends its a business negotiation. I doubt any of them are coming around and fucking you for the free no matter how many fantasy stories people be posting on here. And through my experience, a lot of them seem to think they can because you guys are allowing them to run things. I tell a girl exactly what I want and if she ain't willing to give it to me then I move on to someone who will because at the end of the day I spend my money how I want to spend it. And yes I understand it's their body but its also their job and my money. My point is they should be getting paid the bare minimum. [Deleted by Admin]
PolloNegro
03-23-20, 01:06
A comparable girl in San Francisco will cost 800 dollars per hour, and she will be full of attitude. 300 dollars is good for a girl in her late 20's to early 30's who gives decent service (complete subpar compared to fb girls from Medellin). Asian girls in the US is a bit more affordable, about 220-250 dollars per hour, you get a decent looking Korean girl in her 30's who give pretty good service, still nowhere near the fb girl experience.It is always funny to me that we tend to argue about prices. That is something that I will not do. I know what I will pay and what I won't pay, I am no longer into paying $250-$300 mil for 2 hours, I will let you newbies have at it. I have been banging 3-4 girls daily for a total of $200 mil, but it took me 2 years to build up my stable.
Many BMs feel like you have to treat these girls like humans and blah blah blah. I am the first to tell you, if you show any kind of weakness to these girls, they will take you for just that, a weak individual. I have helped girls, met their parents, grandparents, family and friends, they still saw the Gringo as weak person who they could take advantage. Soon as I learned what the cost of living was in Medellin, things quickly changed.
I am not auditioning for a role as a husband or a boyfriend; I have seen what that can get you in Medellin. Nothing disturbs or upsets the masses of women in Medellin more than seeing a Gringo every day who will not spend a penny with them. The girls who I do give appointments to have learned to keep our business between us or there will be no more appointments. If you are here for a short period say, one to two weeks, you have to try and bang as many chics as possible, but when you are here on a 3 month run or longer, you can pick and choose who you want to bang, and then you will see just how far $200 mil can go.
I will not beat a dead horse, I have learned my lessons and I will not go against my rules. I see so many things that BMs do that are 360 degrees against what I would do or how I pursue a situation, but that's the beauty of this board, we all have different ways of skinning a cat. I know who's lying, who's full of BS, and who actually comes to Medellin and can give you play by play up to the moment reports about Medellin and Centro. I personally do not do Poblado, I have no reason to be overcharged for food and everyday things because I am an American. I fluently speak Spanish and I don't need anyone to hold my hand. If you think paying $300-$600 mil for TLN is fine, by all means have at it, but don't complain about prices of tickets and an inability to get back to Medellin when you're blowing $200-$300 a day on chics, just doesn't seem rational to me.
If you can blow $10,000 a month on girls and party habits, by all means you should have the funds to return to Medellin whenever you get ready. **Personally, I have asked about Thailand and couldn't get a straight answer about the pricing, so I decided to not travel Pattaya and Bangkok because no one could give me the answers that I was looking for. So I remain in Medellin and I am quite happy. If there is ever a place that has as many women and the women are as reasonable as Medellin then I might give it a try, but when one person tells me that Thailand is a little bit more, and another says its about the same, given the travel time and the time it would take me to learn the surrounding area, I'll be stuck in South America until the right wing man comes along and wants to take me out East and show me around. **Here is a little thing that I have been banging daily and she even came over during this Quarantine to bang my brains out for 3 hours for $120, only because she had to pay for a taxi back to her barrio. Pollo Negro is out!
That started 7 PM Friday night. In case anyone didn't get the point, police cars and motorcycles are circulating and repeating the message over their PA systems. The first tie I saw a helicopter Friday night it reminded me of one of those 90's end of the world movies with Morgan Freeman in the role of President of the United States.
A friend of mine who lives in Laureles told me that on Sunday afternoon there were helicopters flying overhead telling people to stay in doors.
Rappi and uber eats are in full effect. I mentioned I was in Exito today, fully stocked and there was an unusual number of employees in the aisles restocking merchandise. The cashier told me they extended her hours. I interpreted that to mean the store would stay open later than usual. I took the Metro to Centro this afternoon. I was surprised to see a few girls around ground zero. I didn't venture behind the church because there were more night crawlers wandering around at 3 in the afternoon than I've ever seen. On the way back to the metro I passed 4 soldiers on horseback, surreal. The metro is pretty much empty. It was a pleasure.
I have dates lined up beginning Tuesday. Now that the Tuesday quarantine pause is cancelled, I don't see the point in waiting. I'm going to go ahead and make some calls for tomorrow. A big problem I am having is too much food and not enough exercise. Unless you are walking a dog or carrying groceries the police give dirty looks.
I suggest you stock up on as much as you can which you probably already have, because when they extend the lock-down, not "if", in my opinion, it will be total mayhem.
I have no idea what El Centro is like, and since your on the ground there, hopefully you can figure a way to go there with out a problem if it still is a viable option somehow.
The Venezuelans must be going crazy there, and my bet is you could easily get as many as you wanted if they were available.
Hopefully you have some fully vetted ones in your line up you can call. If not, my bet is there is a ton of FayBoo and Tinder Chicas available.
You could easily have them travel by Taxi to a market or store close to where you live, meet them there, and then walk separately to your place not to violate the one person shopping rule I heard about.
If I was there, I would rotate them into my apartment, albeit the Portero's would be giving me some funny looks with the parade of Chicas coming and going, but who gives a shit with what's happening now.
I am sure your figuring your options out, and please keep reporting on what's going on there.
This video should be shown in airplane monitors prior to touchdown in all Colombian airports.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX73layhN1k&feature=youtu.be
Thailand and Cambodia should be included in the groupNo matter where you go (Colombia, CR, DR, Asia, etc), there's always some guys saying how clueless guys are ruining the economy by overpaying for pussy. Load of crap. The only thing these guys are hurting is their own wallet. What one guy pays has no direct effect on others. The girls who are getting these big dollars will then ask for those same amounts, but nobody is FORCED to pay it. That's the beauty of it, the price will return to what it should be very quickly.
It's always cheap Charlie's who could barely afford to be there in the first place complaining about this.
BigBootyLover9
03-23-20, 02:02
Hey guys,
By the title you can tell I'm a big fan of big asses. I'm planning on going to Medellin in after the whole Corona thing blows over but anyway, I want to know what area has the biggest booties. I like them big and jiggly. Anyway if you guys can help that would mean a lot.
Thanks.
What you pay is what you pay. Nothing more. I had a girl insist on 250 k. I paid it and felt like I got my money's worth. A few months later she came over for 90 k. The next week someone else paid her 200 k.
Find what satisfies you. Find the price point you're comfortable with. Then figure out a way to get satisfaction at your price. Don't worry about what someone else is paying. Don't worry about the service they are getting. Don't worry that his girls might look better or worse than your girls. Just do you.I completely agree with your sentiment. I am a little amused at the number of posts extolling the virtue of paying as little as you can get away with. After all we have to do this or the prices will go up. Seriously?
Just as an aside, I haven't met a single FB or casa girl that grew up with the hope of fucking old fat gringos that can't even speak the language for enough to pay the rent and meals for a few days to a week.
It's not that I advocate altruism but I try to agree to the going rate (150-200 for a few hours) and if the service is exemplary not only will she probably get another cita but I always kick in another 30-50 mil.
I hear people say, well overpaying doesn't get you better service. Maybe not for them but when I see a girl a second time, she is usually right on time or damn close and she usually goes full out to make it a great time.
She knows damn well that if she doesn't that the next girl will.
The girl that shows up and wants to add to the price for anything and wants to hurry and beats me to the shower after we've scored a goal. Well she doesn't get any tip money and she doesn't get a second date.
Oh and I'm that 60's bald pudgy gringo (but I can speak on an intermediate level).
Big Boss Man
03-23-20, 04:28
My point is they should be getting paid the bare minimum. As long as you don't get angry when they don't accept your price.
There are hookers in South America that can command a premium. It has happened to me in Buenos Aires and Rio. The one in Buenos Aires just laughed at me and five minutes later she was talking with another guy. She looked like Jennifer Hewitt in her early twenties. I matched on Tinder with a well-followed Medellin Instagram chica. I asked the Board if I offered her $600 k did they think she would come out and meet me at my hotel. The wisdom of the Board said "no". So there are guys on this Board who have made plays for the high end models or influencers as they call themselves these days.
The Facebook chicas you are talking about are more the girl next door types. I have stayed in the known mongering apartments and have seen many chicas walk out of the building and I do not think I am doing much worse than anyone else. There was one guy that I thought really scored. She spoke conversational English, good-looking face and had a great body.
Of course, if you spend more time in Medellin you should be doing better than us guys that fly in for a week once a year.
Lucky for me, the new concept of beauty, the Kardashian look, is not really my thing, so I am not necessarily trolling in the same waters these days.
PunkedLife
03-23-20, 06:22
As long as you don't get angry when they don't accept your price.
There are hookers in South America that can command a premium. It has happened to me in Buenos Aires and Rio. The one in Buenos Aires just laughed at me and five minutes later she was talking with another guy. She looked like Jennifer Hewitt in her early twenties. I matched on Tinder with a well-followed Medellin Instagram chica. I asked the Board if I offered her $600 k did they think she would come out and meet me at my hotel. The wisdom of the Board said "no". So there are guys on this Board who have made plays for the high end models or influencers as they call themselves these days.
The Facebook chicas you are talking about are more the girl next door types. I have stayed in the known mongering apartments and have seen many chicas walk out of the building and I do not think I am doing much worse than anyone else. There was one guy that I thought really scored. She spoke conversational English, good-looking face and had a great body.
Of course, if you spend more time in Medellin you should be doing better than us guys that fly in for a week once a year.
Lucky for me, the new concept of beauty, the Kardashian look, is not really my thing, so I am not necessarily trolling in the same waters these days.Oh I don't get angry. Like my previous post said there are so many women available that even though I have high standards as far as looks I still have plenty available. Its a numbers game. Just like in the dating game you can't expect to speak to 10 girls and get rejected or flaked out on 7 of them and then expect the 3 that gave you an opportunity are going to be the one you settle for. No, you got to speak to hundreds if not thousands of women unless you are going to accept the bare minimum. The same concept applies here. Your going to have to speak to a hundred or more facebook girls, hit up Centro and put in the work, Parque Lleras if your into the Poblado scene, la 70, and maybe hit up the casas and the strip clubs. That shit is time consuming but its better than the alternative. One thing I hate is when I get with a girl and waste money just because I ignored the red flags or I didn't speak about everything upfront just to end up wasting my time and being left unfulfilled which then makes me look for another girl and then waste more time and money. I know that service is always better than looks but I just can't get myself to fuck someone I am not attracted to. And yet most of the good service is provided by the less attractive and entitled bitches. So I try and find a happy medium. And if it wasn't for all the fucking games that these bitches play this wouldn't be an issue. Trust me I am not asking for much. I don't want it to seem like I am asking for a laundry list of things but if all I am asking for is to pay for the time with unlimited fucks and not just a set limit of nuts I can bust or getting a BBBJ then that shouldn't be difficult to negotiate. I shouldn't be paying a ***** 150 k plus for let's say 2 to 3 hours and the ***** tells me that I can only have 1 or 2 leches. A lot of these girls don't get this concept because many of you are paying them and allowing them to dictate what they will or will not do. I am sorry but if I am paying for a set amount of time then I am not paying to entertain these girls or worse watch them be on their phone the entire session. The majority of these women don't have enough education to engage in any stimulating conversation. And although my Spanish isn't fluent but it is good enough where I can hold a conversation. So why am I paying to entertain her? No, she needs to earn every penny she is making. This is how you have to treat the majority of them to avoid the game. Yah its sad and I may seem like an ass-whole but do you think their Colombian boyfriends treat them half as good as we treat them? No, they aren't used to that. During the session with my best Facebook experience, I had to literally pull her off my lap and start fucking her because she had my dick in her mouth for like half an hour and my shit was getting too sensitive. I even asked her if she was tired after like 10 or 15 minutes and she told me no. And her head was so good that I just enjoyed it while I could. Because let's face it that most of these girls can't suck dick to save their lives. She let me do everything I wanted except anal which I had already established with her before she arrived. She was a certified freak and if I had met her earlier I would have fucked her at least once or twice a week the entire time I was there. But sadly I met her on my last day. And I only paid her 150 k plus taxi which is the normal from what I have read on this board before arriving. So yes there are women who have an entitled premium price tag on their vagina because are willing to pay that price. More power to them. Hopefully, they saved all that money they made or maybe like Dulce Ruiz they have a list of [Deleted by Admin] to send them money via western union these days otherwise I hope they starve during this quarantine period. My main point is they can't command a premium if no one is paying that premium.
BTW do you guys want me to use a different word than the one that keeps getting deleted? I don't want to get banned because I offend some people.
Rappi and uber eats are in full effect. I mentioned I was in Exito today, fully stocked and there was an unusual number of employees in the aisles restocking merchandise. The cashier told me they extended her hours. I interpreted that to mean the store would stay open later than usual. I took the Metro to Centro this afternoon. I was surprised to see a few girls around ground zero. I didn't venture behind the church because there were more night crawlers wandering around at 3 in the afternoon than I've ever seen. On the way back to the metro I passed 4 soldiers on horseback, surreal. The metro is pretty much empty. It was a pleasure.
I have dates lined up beginning Tuesday. Now that the Tuesday quarantine pause is cancelled, I don't see the point in waiting. I'm going to go ahead and make some calls for tomorrow. A big problem I am having is too much food and not enough exercise. Unless you are walking a dog or carrying groceries the police give dirty looks.Not surprising at all that to see a few girls out, most probably Venezuelans, and hell you probably could of rounded them all up and had a three-some or four-some for next to nothing if the Hotels were still operating.
As far as the zombies, I can only imagine them lined up drooling with their black plastic bags sniffing glue and I wouldn't be walking the gauntlet alongside the Church either. The reason you saw the soldiers on horseback is because the Government called in the Calvary for support.
Totally surreal, your like the boards's field reporter on the ground, please be careful and safe!
That started 7 PM Friday night. In case anyone didn't get the point, police cars and motorcycles are circulating and repeating the message over their PA systems. The first tie I saw a helicopter Friday night it reminded me of one of those 90's end of the world movies with Morgan Freeman in the role of President of the United States.Sounds like if people don't obey, the next thing will be a fleet of Bell UH-1 Huey gunships that will be firing rounds if people don't stay in doors.
On Sunday there were people in Central Park in New York which has been hit with over twenty thousand cases of the virus, and the Governor locked down the State on Friday telling people to stay in doors, yet they were still out there on Sunday.
A fleet of gunships hovering overhead would of quickly dispersed the crowd. The Chinese got it right for sure as to how they handled things to stop the spread of the virus and to save lives.
PunkedLife
03-23-20, 07:16
No matter where you go (Colombia, CR, DR, Asia, etc), there's always some guys saying how clueless guys are ruining the economy by overpaying for pussy. Load of crap. The only thing these guys are hurting is their own wallet. What one guy pays has no direct effect on others. The girls who are getting these big dollars will then ask for those same amounts, but nobody is FORCED to pay it. That's the beauty of it, the price will return to what it should be very quickly.
It's always cheap Charlie's who could barely afford to be there in the first place complaining about this.Just because someone does their research and knows what the going rate is and has made a conscious decision on what they are willing to pay or the type of service they are willing to accept does not make them cheap. So unless you know these people personally your broad assumptions just makes it sound like you are defensive. And people only seem to get defensive when the truth hurts. The truth is clueless guys are ruining the economy. Riddle me this: how is a woman coming from a poor ass country like Venezuela get to the point where she feels entitled enough to only accept 200 k to 300 k plus for the bare minimum? And by bare minimum, I am referring to straight vanilla sex. While other Venezuelans are fucking for 30 k in centro. I have met many girls who told me that they live in Centro but then gave me a look of disgust when I asked them if they worked in Centro. Don't bother answering the obvious though. Why she going to work for 30 k when she can make 200 k plus which is her monthly rent in one or two citas? And why is that. Because clueless gringos are coming and overpaying. These girls that I am talking about were not drop dead gorgeous. I went to La Isla and I know at least 2 girls in parque Botero who are hotter than anything I saw that night and it was the weekend. But yet clueless gringos (Hey admins is this more acceptable than [Deleted by Admin]? Will pay these girls and therefore ruin the economy. This is common sense and I shouldn't have to explain it barney style but good thing I am sitting here bored due to this quarantine.
The cost of living doesn't warrant such high price quotes. Look where the majority of these women are living. In low-income barrios with the bare minimum for the BARE minimum. If they live in those areas then they are most definitely shopping for food and other necessities for the bare minimum. I get that price does increase over time but where I disagree is how exponentially it seems to increase. Things don't change that rapidly in a decade in these countries. The overall population doesn't make enough money to make that possible. So her making double what she used to make 10 years ago might seem reasonable for a foreigner but when you look at where she lives then that story goes out the window. And don't use that whole number of hours she stays with you as an argument because I have spent days in Centro and nights in Poblado. So I know from experience that these girls can be walking the streets or even in clubs like Conejitas and not get a single date. So they waste all their time and return home empty-handed. So if they end up spending a few hours with you in a room with AC, getting to drink your beer, eat whatever food you have to offer her, and maybe fucking you for a few 20 minutes sessions (let's face it not many guys are fucking for a complete HR or longer) then she is doing way better than standing on one spot or walking in loops hoping some guy scoops her up. So unless you are getting her to film videos, nude pics, anal, or absolutely everything you want then she doesn't deserve any extra funds just based on the number of hours she happens to spend with you. And if you are paying for anything less than exactly what you want then you're doing it wrong because there are so many women out there that they shouldn't be dictating how your fantasy should go.Before I start, here's some information. The Colombian minimum wage has nearly doubled in the past 10 years. The price Facebook girls are accepting hasn't changed in 10 years. There has been no exponential increase.
I wish you would make up your mind. Last night you were complaining about these women having LAVISH lifestyles and now you're saying they're living dirt poor. And you're using both as an excuse to pay the bare minimum. Can you explain it to me?
Should they be paid the bare minimum because they don't deserve a lavish lifestyle, or should they be paid the bare minimum because they are already poor?
Why try to rationalize it? You want to only pay the minimum. That's all you need to say. If a guy only wants to fuck blondes with big butts and bad tattoos, he doesn't need to explain himself. It's what he wants to do. If a guy only wants the El Centro street girls, or only the Gusto girls, he doesn't need to justify it.
Why do they deserve the bare minimum? They're willing to come to you, suck your dick and fuck you. Face it, women that hot aren't begging to fuck you for free.
As you say, it's your money. You do it your way and you get what you get. I do things my way, pay what I pay and I get what I get. At the end of the day, I don't care what I spent. I care about what I got out of it.
I've probably got more years behind me than I've got ahead of me. I've been broke and I've been quite comfortable. I've lived in modest luxury and I've lived in conditions as bad or worse than most of those girls live with. Two years ago I was penniless. Today I'm earning almost 50% more than I've ever earned and my expenses are the lowest they've been in years.
Good times or bad, I don't remember how much money I had in my pocket, or how much I paid for the things I did. To me it doesn't matter. It's the memory that brings a smile to my face.
Here's what doing things my way has done for me. Most of this is from the year I lived in Medellin.
Girls hit me up asking if I wanted to see their friend. Girls hit me up asking if I wanted to spend Christmas with their family. Girls warning me about other girls who are either bad service, or untrustworthy. Girls buying me little gifts. I've still got a big bottle of cologne from one of them. Girls happy to spend the whole night, without asking for more. When I mention other cities in Colombia, girls offering to hook me up with their cousins. Girls literally watching my back when leaving their neighborhood. Girls taking me shopping and helping me get a lower price on household items. Girls bringing me home cooked meals. Girls asking for my advice. Girls warning me about scams.
Last summer had a girl come to the apartment, spent 2 hours having me take nude photos and videos of her and hanging out just talking. It cost me the effort of getting her a glass of water. She paid her taxi both ways. Could have fucked her and paid a fair price, but the moment wasn't right. A few days before I spent about 30 k taking her to a movie, buying her coffee and just hanging out. She offered to pay for her own ticket and coffee. All because about 18 months earlier, I treated her right.
Right now I've got 6 girls crying because they expected to see me next month.
None of this may appeal to you. It appeals to me. My sexual bucket list has all been checked off, other than having a threesome with twins while a midget sings karaoke to us. Can't find a midget with a good enough voice.
I'll never pay the bare minimum, because I'm never satisfied with the bare minimum.
Hey guys,
By the title you can tell I'm a big fan of big asses. I'm planning on going to Medellin in after the whole Corona thing blows over but anyway, I want to know what area has the biggest booties. I like them big and jiggly. Anyway if you guys can help that would mean a lot.
Thanks.We went over this with you in the Bogota thread less than 2 months ago. You should have been taking notes.
PunkedLife
03-23-20, 07:40
I completely agree with your sentiment. I am a little amused at the number of posts extolling the virtue of paying as little as you can get away with. After all we have to do this or the prices will go up. Seriously?
Just as an aside, I haven't met a single FB or casa girl that grew up with the hope of fucking old fat gringos that can't even speak the language for enough to pay the rent and meals for a few days to a week.
It's not that I advocate altruism but I try to agree to the going rate (150-200 for a few hours) and if the service is exemplary not only will she probably get another cita but I always kick in another 30-50 mil.
I hear people say, well overpaying doesn't get you better service. Maybe not for them but when I see a girl a second time, she is usually right on time or damn close and she usually goes full out to make it a great time.
She knows damn well that if she doesn't that the next girl will.
The girl that shows up and wants to add to the price for anything and wants to hurry and beats me to the shower after we've scored a goal. Well she doesn't get any tip money and she doesn't get a second date.
Oh and I'm that 60's bald pudgy gringo (but I can speak on an intermediate level).The way you look doesn't really apply to women in any given format. Your personality is more important than your looks when dealing with women on a regular basis. Finances doesn't even matter these days when a woman can just log into Instagram and advertise her premium Snapchat and then spread her legs to receive payment all without having to leave her bed. She probably doesn't even have to wash her ass. These bitches don't even have to look good. Fat, ugly, old they are all getting paid. Well, at least the lucky ones. The unlucky ones are born in these countries we like to frequent. And therefore your looks don't matter. Like seriously who are you competing with? Their broke ass Colombian boyfriends are just as unfit as some of us. Just spitting facts. Shrug.
Yes, they all know the next girl may or may not do what they are willing to do. Has that stopped all the BS? No, otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion. It took me like 2 weeks to just come to the realization that these women just aren't educated and literally have no common sense. It's actually a cultural deficiency that I have noticed they all fucking possess regardless of gender or age. And yes overpaying doesn't get you good service. It never gets you good service. There are guys complaining that they had relationships with these women for months or years but yet that same ***** decided to try and play them that one time. Whether they overpaid during one cita or over months and months of citas. That is just one example of the lack of common sense these women possess. Let's not get started on the men who send their women out to fuck for a few pesos then have no problem making out with them after she just got done sucking the whole Botero or wherever she works. And the crux of this topic is that we might not be able to teach them common sense but at the very least we can mitigate or control the only thing we can control as a whole. The fucking price. Also what we are willing to accept. But maybe that's a concept too grand for some of you guys to grasp so let's just stick to the more simple of the two. The price. No need to nuke this with talking about inflation and exchange rates among other things. Remember we are dealing with illiterate people so try to lower your intellectual way of thinking.
Mr Enternational
03-23-20, 08:08
I see so many things that BMs do that are 360 degrees against what I would do or how I pursue a situation, but that's the beauty of this board, we all have different ways of skinning a cat.That IS the beauty of it. You can see so many ways of doing things and you can take the ones you like and incorporate it into your own way of doing things.
**Personally, I have asked about Thailand and couldn't get a straight answer about the pricing, so I decided to not travel Pattaya and Bangkok because no one could give me the answers that I was looking for.When you come on the Medellin board you do not get a straight answer about the pricing either. You just said yourself that some guys are paying this and some guys are paying that. Hell, you even said that you yourself used to pay more but now you pay less. It is the same thing.
Unless you are in some establishment with set prices, you pay what you negotiate. And although I have in a couple of cases heard $100 for all night I would never pay that much. The absolute most that most freelance chicks will tell you might be $60 for all night, but I would just laugh at them and tell them to be serious. I am still giving chicks here in Thailand the same $30 per night that I have been for the last 12 years.
One guy asked on the board the other day what would be a fair price to give a chick for overnight. (I thought it to be a strange question for a senior member that comes often and is in town right now.) Another senior poster that comes often responded and said he had gotten a chick from a particular area for short time the other day for $50 and she told him that she was available to go on a beach holiday for $100 per day. I responded that I had gotten a chick the night before from the same area. I waited until she got off work and went to pick her up. I took her back home at noon the next day and gave her $30 (see pic). So you will never get a straight answer about pricing.
I'll be stuck in South America until the right wing man comes along and wants to take me out East and show me around.
I think it was last July when you told me that you would come out this way. I made sure that I was here to show you around, but you did not show up, so...
BigButtDetecto
03-23-20, 08:45
I don't think Colombia will be spared. Anyone who was here last week knows there was plenty of close contact up until this week's lockdown. I am hopeful the German situation may work in Colombia's favor. In Germany, where there is as much or more testing than in southern Europe (Italy and Spain) there are more confirmed cases but much fewer hospitalizations and deaths. The same is true on a per capita basis compared with Wuhan and the rest of China. I've spent a good amount of time in China, including during the height of the SARS epidemic in Shanghai. My impression is the general health of the Colombian population and the quality of health care in Colombia (especially in big cities) is closer to Germany's than it is to Italy / Spain / China. In the US I really worry about the sky high rates of diabetes, obesity, and heart disease. It makes the population more vulnerable. We will see soon enough.
Today I notice a bit of normalization of the lockdown in Medellin. The people are complying substantially. You can cross Avenida Poblado without looking. Even the ciclovia was harder to cross. It's not allowed but I saw couples shopping at Exito. It's supposed to be one person per household but how do you enforce that really. The shelves are fully stocked. There is a lot more merchandise than customers. I suspect that it is because unlike in the US, people here who haven't worked in weeks in some cases don't have money to buy anything. I walked straight to a cashier without waiting on line. That's unheard of even on Sunday at the Exito on la 70.
TelelMedellin passed along a government announcement that discouraged people from coming out in droves on Tuesday before the 19 day lockdown takes effect. Based on my whatsapp there might be a rush of girls looking for dates. I plan to get to bed early Monday.Germany is 2 weeks behind Italy and their health system is not better.
Colombia has a lot of young people that should recover but it is a developing country. Few people have health insurance.
Great advice, my only quibble with what you wrote are that it doesn't take 2 years to get where you are. Anyone who takes advantage of the information on this site (rather than argue with it or twist it to their own preconceptions) can get to where you are from Day 1.
It is always funny to me that we tend to argue about prices. That is something that I will not do. I know what I will pay and what I won't pay, I am no longer into paying $250-$300 mil for 2 hours, I will let you newbies have at it. I have been banging 3-4 girls daily for a total of $200 mil, but it took me 2 years to build up my stable.
Many BMs feel like you have to treat these girls like humans and blah blah blah. I am the first to tell you, if you show any kind of weakness to these girls, they will take you for just that, a weak individual. I have helped girls, met their parents, grandparents, family and friends, they still saw the Gringo as weak person who they could take advantage. Soon as I learned what the cost of living was in Medellin, things quickly changed.
I am not auditioning for a role as a husband or a boyfriend; I have seen what that can get you in Medellin. Nothing disturbs or upsets the masses of women in Medellin more than seeing a Gringo every day who will not spend a penny with them. The girls who I do give appointments to have learned to keep our business between us or there will be no more appointments. If you are here for a short period say, one to two weeks, you have to try and bang as many chics as possible, but when you are here on a 3 month run or longer, you can pick and choose who you want to bang, and then you will see just how far $200 mil can go.
PolloNegro
03-23-20, 15:31
I think it was last July when you told me that you would come out this way. I made sure that I was here to show you around, but you did not show up, so...You did and I was so busy trying to figure out a way to generate capitol while away from the US and now that I have figured this out, as soon as it is possible to travel again, I will link up with you and take a 30 day visit out to Thailand, you absolutely did tell me that you would show me around and it was my error that I didn't follow up on the offer! Pollo Negro is out!
Hey guys,
but anyway, I want to know what area has the biggest booties. I like them big and jiggly. Anyway if you guys can help that would mean a lot.
Thanks.The north side. Nothing but big booties out there.
If I had to pay $60 for a chick I would have been out of Thailand a long time ago. In 15 years I have never given a chick that much money. The minimum wage here is $10 per day and you MIGHT get that much only if you are at least a high school graduate.
The other night me and my nephew got 2 chicks at 9 pm. We took them back home at 6 pm the next day. I gave mine $40 and he gave his $40. I had made the original deal for $30 as you can see in the picture, but since we kept them much later into the next day I threw in extra.I am printing my experience in pattaya, I am sure if you are a regular for years you can get for less, variations factor in, but there were offers for exceedingly more as well. Especially from nightclubs. It was high season packed with tourism, big spenders. A norm was short stay $30 2 hrs $40 12 hrs $60. Brothels $30, soapie massage $60. Most services was very GFE. Service in pattaya was generally friendly and felt safe at all times. I would go out at 4 am in the morning to party. Perfect setting for mongering. Immense variety. Great food. Inexpensive. That's my report.
Still on lockdown in Medellin with wifey. Trying to stay up on the news events.
That is just mean. LOL!
Still on lockdown in Medellin with wifey. Trying to stay up on the news events.
The way you look doesn't really apply to women in any given format. Your personality is more important than your looks when dealing with women on a regular basis. Finances doesn't even matter these days when a woman can just log into Instagram and advertise her premium Snapchat and then spread her legs to receive payment all without having to leave her bed. She probably doesn't even have to wash her ass. These bitches don't even have to look good. Fat, ugly, old they are all getting paid. Well, at least the lucky ones. The unlucky ones are born in these countries we like to frequent. And therefore your looks don't matter. Like seriously who are you competing with? Their broke ass Colombian boyfriends are just as unfit as some of us. Just spitting facts. Shrug.You're kind of rambling here. What exactly is pissing you off? Are you upset because Villainy has a personality? Or does it make you angry that women are making money? I can understand being mad at Villainy. It's completely unfair that he's a great guy to spend time with. Kind of baffled if you're furious because women are making money, especially if you insist on paying the "bare minimum. " If you're not going to fund their "lavish" lifestyles living on the "bare minimum", they have to find other ways.
You want to know the crazy thing? Some of the women I know are making solid 6 figure incomes, working 15-20 hours a week without ever touching any guy, unless they have a boyfriend. Does that make you more upset? Heck, my old roommate gets over $600 a week from a guy that she just trades a few messages with every week. And that's less than 20% of her income.
The humor here is that you consider the women in any country where you go to fuck them, unlucky. "Them poor, unlucky ass bitches got to fuck me. " The women I meet there often say they were lucky to meet me.
By the way, the "unlucky ones", born in the countries we like to frequent, are disproportionately represented in the online sex businesses. I can show you high rises in Poblado where 1 of every 8 apartments hosts a webcam model. I can show you a few buildings that are wholly owned by webcam studios. Maybe they're not so unlucky after all.
Yes, they all know the next girl may or may not do what they are willing to do. Has that stopped all the BS? No, otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion. It took me like 2 weeks to just come to the realization that these women just aren't educated and literally have no common sense. It's actually a cultural deficiency that I have noticed they all fucking possess regardless of gender or age. And yes overpaying doesn't get you good service. It never gets you good service. There are guys complaining that they had relationships with these women for months or years but yet that same ***** decided to try and play them that one time. Whether they overpaid during one cita or over months and months of citas. That is just one example of the lack of common sense these women possess. Let's not get started on the men who send their women out to fuck for a few pesos then have no problem making out with them after she just got done sucking the whole Botero or wherever she works. And the crux of this topic is that we might not be able to teach them common sense but at the very least we can mitigate or control the only thing we can control as a whole. The fucking price. Also what we are willing to accept. But maybe that's a concept too grand for some of you guys to grasp so let's just stick to the more simple of the two. The price.You're literally spitting here. You accuse the girls of lacking common sense, yet you claim they are simultaneously living lavish lifestyles and living on the bare minimum. Maybe common sense means something else to you. Where I come from common sense says that's impossible. Common sense also says that you haven't spent sufficient time, with a significant number of Colombians, to determine what flaws everyone in the nation has.
Then you switch into a homoerotic fantasy of guys kissing their girlfriends after the girlfriend sucked someone else's dick. Can we get Freud to weigh in on this? It wouldn't be an issue, except you're in the same boat. Except, if you only go with girls who will accept the bare minimum, you're kissing the ones who have been doing unspeakable things with that mouth. That's just plain nasty.
I do control the price. Every time. I pay what I want to pay. I also control what I expect from the girls. Almost every time I get everything I want. Often I get more. I'm not paying the price you pay, because I'm unwilling to accept what you will accept. I don't expect them to do the things you want them to do, because I want them to do the things I want.
No need to nuke this with talking about inflation and exchange rates among other things.We can leave out the exchange rate, but it's impossible to talk intelligently about price without understanding the effects of inflation on price. Otherwise, all you're doing is throwing a tantrum.
In the (as confirmed by ColombiaLover) past 15 years the price for Mansion / Facebook girls has remained relatively unchanged. The price for rent in Colombia has more than doubled. The price for food has more than doubled. The price for clothing has more than doubled. The price for utilities, medical care and everything else has more than doubled. That's inflation. It happens in Colombia. It affects the poor worse than the wealthy.
The girls who were getting 150 k 15 years ago were low volume. They only needed 2 or 3 tricks a week to live well. Some worked harder, saved money and opened their own businesses. To have the same discretionary income, a Facebook girl today needs twice as many tricks each week.
At some point either price must go up, service must go down, or quality must go down. That's the effect of stagnant wages with inflation. It happens in every industry. If you don't believe me, compare fast food restaurants 10 years ago with fast food restaurants today.
Remember we are dealing with illiterate people so try to lower your intellectual way of thinking.How could anyone possibly forget this?
The north side. Nothing but big booties out there.Paris or Manrique?
I don't agree with the comparison you made between the German and Italian health systems. I also think the broad generalization about health insurance in Colombia is inaccurate. I respect that our experiences are not likely the same.
Germany is 2 weeks behind Italy and their health system is not better.
Colombia has a lot of young people that should recover but it is a developing country. Few people have health insurance.
Germany is 2 weeks behind Italy and their health system is not better................To date in Germany 118 people have died from covid-19 while in Italy the number is 6,077.
Still on lockdown in Medellin with wifey. Trying to stay up on the news events.I guess bare-backing your wifey is the least of your worries. Dump lots of loads in her for all of us. I would be doing the same exact thing if I was there!
Paris or Manrique?Both, Lol 😅
Paris or Manrique?Translation please? Is this a "big butt" location or Club somewhere. I reported on the primary "big butt" location a few months back in Medellin, unfortunately it's shut down and / or our two members still in Medellin have horded them.
Makes you wonder what the hell all those Venezuelans are doing right now as they were only in Colombia to make money to send back home.
What a mess.
The truth is clueless guys are ruining the economy. Riddle me this: how is a woman coming from a poor ass country like Venezuela get to the point where she feels entitled enough to only accept 200 k to 300 k plus for the bare minimum? And by bare minimum, I am referring to straight vanilla sex. While other Venezuelans are fucking for 30 k in centro. This fictional girl you mentioned being paid 300 k did not "ruin" the economy. All it did was to make her THINK that she would be able to consistently ask and get it. The truth is that she probably started to ask for 200-300 k after this dope paid her this. But after a few guys declined, she realized what is happening, and lowered it to 150 and maybe she got a few dates. But once that dried up, she went back to centro where she would be laughed out of the city if she quoted any more than 60 k, and eventually settled back at her old level of 30-40 k.
And the great thing is that nobody is forced to pay any crazy asking price, because there are 50 other girls waiting to take her spot. A "ruined" economy would be if all girls started asking 300 k, which would never happen.
Bottom line is that I have never worried about what guys paid affecting me in ANY way. I have helped guys who have asked me to understand what they should be paying, so they don't overpay. But it was to save them money, not because I thought it would ruin the P4P market.
Today this Centro rat met a real Centro rat. My curiosity got the better of me and I went back to Centro today. I went wandering around the Parque Berrio metro station and saw a huge rat sunning itself on the near empty sidewalk. This was 2 PM. They get bolder when there isn't as much activity.
Anyway on to the real stuff. The Governor of Antioquia was on the department's public TV station again this morning. He announced the rules that will apply to people who will return to their homes from trips to the surrounding region tomorrow. Tomorrow was supposed to be the window for that and for stocking up on supplies for the 3 week lockdown. Basically you have to show you are heading home to avoid fines for being in a car with more than one person. I mention this because it might explain the noticeable increase in foot traffic and vehicular traffic in Centro today. I right away noticed more people walking around Botero Plaza and more girls flagging me down as I made my way to ground zero. It's nothing close to normal but a striking increase from yesterday. I am wondering if it is the now cancelled pre lockdown pause or not. We'll see what happens Wednesday. I also noticed no more than three or four Venezuelans. The police were only dispersing the night crawlers and leaving civilians alone. The D1 in the Nutibara was open and I saw a few people on Maracaibo with Exito bags so that was probably open too.
Anyway, I found a lady of my liking. She asked for 30 K, I countered 20 K and off we went. 15 K for the room (Boulevard Botero) and it was a very nice session. I gave her 30 because it is slim pickings for her and her friends today. I have a couple of dates from my phone book lined up tomorrow. If I have time I am going to try to see what's up in Centro Wednesday.
Don't worry about quoting 150. I do that all the time. If they want more, they tell you so.
So is the conclusion that 150 is still the price to quote the putas? Several reports recently people have been paying 200/300.
Just want to clarify. I don't want to quote a fb girl 150 if the price is too cheap and she gets pissed off.
I am also surprised by US lack of organization and nation wide quarantine. I am actually having a hard time convincing chicas visit me. They are very scared about being fined and / or jailed.
I think I understand you to mean you feel more comfortable in the US. I respect that, I might feel the same way if I spent more of my formative years there. What confuses me is you say it's very bad there and getting worse. I also see in the media it is likely worse than anyone knows for lack of testing.
Here in Colombia there is widespread testing. The first confirmed case in Medellin fully recovered as of today after a 14 day quarantine. We are on lockdown but there are no toilet paper shortages, prices are stabilized, gasoline was reduced to US $2/ gallon by presidential decree. Restaurant delivery services are operating normally and restaurants that cater to Colombians in operation. The number confirmed cases as of today are low (196) but rising quickly. Zombie apocalypse fantasies aside, it has already hit here. I see Colombians respecting the quarantine and cooperating with each other. In US media I see crowded beaches, spring breakers doing what they do, and an explosion of gun sales. I weighed it all against my health, financial, and professional situation and decided to be here. That is my point.
BrasilSoccer0
03-24-20, 01:28
You are exaggerating the girl's curves and you got busted on the second phot buddy!
Notice the unnatural curving of the curtains in the background which follows the girls curves on the left side. LOL.
Why would you do that?
It is always funny to me that we tend to argue about prices. That is something that I will not do. I know what I will pay and what I won't pay, I am no longer into paying $250-$300 mil for 2 hours, I will let you newbies have at it. I have been banging 3-4 girls daily for a total of $200 mil, but it took me 2 years to build up my stable.
Many BMs feel like you have to treat these girls like humans and blah blah blah. I am the first to tell you, if you show any kind of weakness to these girls, they will take you for just that, a weak individual. I have helped girls, met their parents, grandparents, family and friends, they still saw the Gringo as weak person who they could take advantage. Soon as I learned what the cost of living was in Medellin, things quickly changed.
I am not auditioning for a role as a husband or a boyfriend; I have seen what that can get you in Medellin. Nothing disturbs or upsets the masses of women in Medellin more than seeing a Gringo every day who will not spend a penny with them. The girls who I do give appointments to have learned to keep our business between us or there will be no more appointments. If you are here for a short period say, one to two weeks, you have to try and bang as many chics as possible, but when you are here on a 3 month run or longer, you can pick and choose who you want to bang, and then you will see just how far $200 mil can go.
I will not beat a dead horse, I have learned my lessons and I will not go against my rules. I see so many things that BMs do that are 360 degrees against what I would do or how I pursue a situation, but that's the beauty of this board, we all have different ways of skinning a cat. I know who's lying, who's full of BS, and who actually comes to Medellin and can give you play by play up to the moment reports about Medellin and Centro. I personally do not do Poblado, I have no reason to be overcharged for food and everyday things because I am an American. I fluently speak Spanish and I don't need anyone to hold my hand. If you think paying $300-$600 mil for TLN is fine, by all means have at it, but don't complain about prices of tickets and an inability to get back to Medellin when you're blowing $200-$300 a day on chics, just doesn't seem rational to me.
If you can blow $10,000 a month on girls and party habits, by all means you should have the funds to return to Medellin whenever you get ready. **Personally, I have asked about Thailand and couldn't get a straight answer about the pricing, so I decided to not travel Pattaya and Bangkok because no one could give me the answers that I was looking for. So I remain in Medellin and I am quite happy. If there is ever a place that has as many women and the women are as reasonable as Medellin then I might give it a try, but when one person tells me that Thailand is a little bit more, and another says its about the same, given the travel time and the time it would take me to learn the surrounding area, I'll be stuck in South America until the right wing man comes along and wants to take me out East and show me around. **Here is a little thing that I have been banging daily and she even came over during this Quarantine to bang my brains out for 3 hours for $120, only because she had to pay for a taxi back to her barrio. Pollo Negro is out!
I am also surprised by US lack of organization and nation wide quarantine. I am actually having a hard time convincing chicas visit me. They are very scared about being fined and / or jailed.The difference is like night and day how Colombia has handled the situation thus far like quarantining in just six days and airport closings in 13 days where as other Countries took up to forty days, the liquor factory is manufacturing millions of liters of ethyl alcohol, the University of Antioquia along with another company has created a respirator that works based on testing which is going into production next week, along with all sorts of other things. And with your Chicas being afraid to come see you, just another example of how diligent the Colombian Government is being isolating and trying to stop the spread of the disease.
So much to be said for the US short of getting into a political shouting match with other members on this topic. I thought long and hard about staying, and maybe I should of stayed in Colombia versus leaving. But will time will tell, and hopefully I will be able to come back sometime by the end of the year but I'm not holding my breath.
You probably watched Duque's cabinet address tonight. They went over the rules again. The loophole is the girl has to be out to buy food or medicine. If stopped she just needs to say she is headed to pick up a cash loan to buy food or medicine. If she is alone and dressed modestly the police won't bother her. Give it a day or two, when the food and money really gets low I think you will find they become more adventurous.
I am also surprised by US lack of organization and nation wide quarantine. I am actually having a hard time convincing chicas visit me. They are very scared about being fined and / or jailed.
I am also surprised by US lack of organization and absence of nationwide quarantine.
Things are different in Colombia. Quarantine is in effect. I am having a hard time convincing girls to visit me. They are scared of being fined and even jailed.
I am also surprised by US lack of organization and nation wide quarantine. I am actually having a hard time convincing chicas visit me. They are very scared about being fined and / or jailed.
LoveItHere69
03-24-20, 02:41
You are exaggerating the girl's curves and you got busted on the second phot buddy!
Notice the unnatural curving of the curtains in the background which follows the girls curves on the left side. LOL.
Why would you do that?The towel follows her ass curves un-naturally too. He also says he has 5 girls each day. Only possible if he does not cum. If you do not cum then 5+ girls each day is easy for maybe 5 days then boring like eating too much of the same thing and then not possible. I do not know Spanish to speak with the girls or would pay to have him prove it.
Same as Mr. Enternational paying the same $30 for 12 years in Thailand. That does not happen anywhere on the planet.
I caught 3 guys in Philippines saying same BS and called them out. First one said he picked up girls at the Angeles SM mall and Ayala in Cebu. He might have but that was 10 years prior. Told him to meet me there and prove it. Never would meet me at the mall. Second, he dated so many college girls in downtown Cebu. They would not even look at me so I knew that was a lie. Fool proved me right my posting pictures of his current GF. Then another guy on the Board posted pictures of the same girl. She was a Japanese porn star. Third, he was King of Cebu with many followers. I called BS. About a year later the work online Australian accountant was arrested for a girlie webcam site. Doing life in prison now.
You are exaggerating the girl's curves and you got busted on the second phot buddy!
Notice the unnatural curving of the curtains in the background which follows the girls curves on the left side. LOL.
Why would you do that?Trust me, pattaya, thailand is very impressive. Asian women have very beautiful skin, sexy eyes, and great legs. In addition most speak english. I was impressed with lleras park but soy 6 and walking street is mind blowing with immensity. I was a doubter. But here is nice too. I like to see different countries so africa and Brazil next. If the coronavirus is defeated.
PolloNegro
03-24-20, 03:51
You are exaggerating the girl's curves and you got busted on the second phot buddy!
Notice the unnatural curving of the curtains in the background which follows the girls curves on the left side. LOL.
Why would you do that?Trust me the girl is only 85-90 lbs tops. You're looking into way too hard, plenty BMs have seen this chic. Great in bed, but usually not my type. But we all have our opinions, nice try buddy. Only thing done to this photo was resized to be loaded up. Quick question what would I gain by altering her photo? If you're not here you damn sure can't meet her but to satisfy your Curiosity PM. & I can give you a up close look at her so you can cut the photo shopping foolishness out! Pollo negro is out!
Today this Centro rat met a real Centro rat. My curiosity got the better of me and I went back to Centro today. I went wandering around the Parque Berrio metro station and saw a huge rat sunning itself on the near empty sidewalk. This was 2 PM. They get bolder when there isn't as much activity.
Anyway on to the real stuff. The Governor of Antioquia was on the department's public TV station again this morning. He announced the rules that will apply to people who will return to their homes from trips to the surrounding region tomorrow. Tomorrow was supposed to be the window for that and for stocking up on supplies for the 3 week lockdown. Basically you have to show you are heading home to avoid fines for being in a car with more than one person. I mention this because it might explain the noticeable increase in foot traffic and vehicular traffic in Centro today. I right away noticed more people walking around Botero Plaza and more girls flagging me down as I made my way to ground zero. It's nothing close to normal but a striking increase from yesterday. I am wondering if it is the now cancelled pre lockdown pause or not. We'll see what happens Wednesday. I also noticed no more than three or four Venezuelans. The police were only dispersing the night crawlers and leaving civilians alone. The D1 in the Nutibara was open and I saw a few people on Maracaibo with Exito bags so that was probably open too.
Anyway, I found a lady of my liking. She asked for 30 K, I countered 20 K and off we went. 15 K for the room (Boulevard Botero) and it was a very nice session. I gave her 30 because it is slim pickings for her and her friends today. I have a couple of dates from my phone book lined up tomorrow. If I have time I am going to try to see what's up in Centro Wednesday.Shit I should of stayed in Medellin, sounds like a total buyers market in El Centro, and if I were to get stopped walking there I would pull out a Tienda 1 market bag and say I'm shopping at the Tienda 1 in El Centro, 1/2 block down from the corner where all the hookers congregate down from the Church.
BigBootyLover9
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The towel follows her ass curves un-naturally too. He also says he has 5 girls each day. Only possible if he does not cum. If you do not cum then 5+ girls each day is easy for maybe 5 days then boring like eating too much of the same thing and then not possible. I do not know Spanish to speak with the girls or would pay to have him prove it.
I am not the only one on this board who know PN and the girl. You really don't know what you are talking about.
You're kind of rambling here. And you're distinctly rambling before you're done. Still a fun read though.
You want to know the crazy thing? Some of the women I know are making solid 6 figure incomes, working 15-20 hours a week without ever touching any guy, unless they have a boyfriend. Does that make you more upset? Heck, my old roommate gets over $600 a week from a guy that she just trades a few messages with every week. And that's less than 20% of her income. The figures are likely inflated as was determined here in conversations back in the day when you failed to demonstrate any independent proofs. Regardless you rented a room from the girl, ran her camera for a year and left town with no money as you so confirmed. If there was any big money it certainly didn't trickle down in any shape or form.
You're literally spitting here. You accuse the girls of lacking common sense, yet you claim they are simultaneously living lavish lifestyles and living on the bare minimum. Maybe common sense means something else to you. Where I come from common sense says that's impossible. Common sense also says that you haven't spent sufficient time, with a significant number of Colombians, to determine what flaws everyone in the nation has. This is an excellent point, is always a bad move to stereotype an entire nation or culture. When one does that they make themselves an easy target. Like the Colombians on our return flights to the states have visas and are often well educated and speak good English. No reason to bring the so called swimming in cash webcam girls into this as there's plenty of more reliable evidence at your fingertips.
Then you switch into a homoerotic fantasy of guys kissing their girlfriends after the girlfriend sucked someone else's dick. Can we get Freud to weigh in on this? It wouldn't be an issue, except you're in the same boat. Except, if you only go with girls who will accept the bare minimum, you're kissing the ones who have been doing unspeakable things with that mouth. That's just plain nasty. No need for Freud on this one as it actually gets to the heart of the simple difference between those who monger and those who don't. Those who do can push such thoughts out of their mind, and those who don't, can't. Though the discrepancy is noted and he walked right into that one.
I do control the price. Every time. I pay what I want to pay. I also control what I expect from the girls. Almost every time I get everything I want. You sound angry, literally spitting here as you've finally had to respond to some valid points. As you've stated you set the price and tell them to come over. Maybe all you "want" is right down to business, everything with condom, and she beelines to the shower as soon as you pop. This may not happen every time or even most of the time, but it's going to happen a lot if you're inviting over a lot of girls you don't know. And yes, it's often seen as a sign of weakness when you fail to ask for what you want and hold the girl to the terms. That's just the name of that tune, no matter how lovable and successful a monger comes to think he is, or how badly he wants to act superior to those who wish to negotiate particulars. It's very laughable.
In the (as confirmed by ColombiaLover) past 15 years the price for Mansion / Facebook girls has remained relatively unchanged. The price for rent in Colombia has more than doubled. The price for food has more than doubled. The price for clothing has more than doubled. The price for utilities, medical care and everything else has more than doubled. That's inflation. It happens in Colombia. Good points about inflation though the figures remain unconfirmed or unsubstantiated. Wish a monger's word on the internet amounted to "confirmation," but sadly that isn't the case so I take it all with a grain of salt for the time being. So there were Facebook girls in 2005 and they were asking the same prices as now? Guess we are stuck with the word of mongers on that one. Some independent, official sources for the rise in living expenses would be nice, as "more than doubled" over 15 years sounds rather drastic. Maybe the whole thesis holds up but it needs a lot more support.
Carry on gentleman. You two have an interesting conversation going on. Stay safe everyone.
Before I start, here's some information. The Colombian minimum wage has nearly doubled in the past 10 years. The price Facebook girls are accepting hasn't changed in 10 years. There has been no exponential increase.
I wish you would make up your mind. Last night you were complaining about these women having LAVISH lifestyles and now you're saying they're living dirt poor. And you're using both as an excuse to pay the bare minimum. Can you explain it to me?
Should they be paid the bare minimum because they don't deserve a lavish lifestyle, or should they be paid the bare minimum because they are already poor?The only conclusion we can draw from his argument is that girls in Medellin are born inferior. They are illiterate fools that if we don't take advantage of them, then we are committing a crime against humanity. For me, Medellin, as a city, is second only to Rio. The people in Medellin are the kindest and most dignified people I have ever met in my life. Most of the girls I know in Medellin have been through a tremendous amount of suffering, and yet they found reasons for enormous pride for who they are, where they live, and what they have endured. At 4 am, standing on the back-door balcony of Club Paradise, looking out to the skyline of Medellin, I don't see an affluent neighborhood underneath that beautiful kaleidoscope of lights, but I see a proud neighborhood.
TurdyCurdyOne
03-24-20, 09:44
Trust me, pattaya, thailand is very impressive. Asian women have very beautiful skin, sexy eyes, and great legs. In addition most speak english. I was impressed with lleras park but soy 6 and walking street is mind blowing with immensity. I was a doubter. But here is nice too. I like to see different countries so africa and Brazil next. If the coronavirus is defeated.Depends on what you're looking for. That is what I thought I had to see Pattaya from all the talk about it. If I had it to do over I would have saved my money and time, it was wasted. Prices 50-100% higher than P. I. Mainly due to the lack of freelancers (selection was poor on Beach Rd. And way over priced, imo). Bar girls could not be separated from the obligatory bar fines. IMO only a dummy pays in advance for what he MIGHT or MIGHT NOT get, especially in places like that. If you're a drinker, prices of drinks at the bars is high and that's what they all want-for you to blow your money on drinks. Maybe because it is a tourist trap I found the Thais often to be rude and easily angered. Public transport is poor and taxis are way high. Baht buses don't go where you want often unless you over pay them and even then they cannot find the place often. Motorbikes are way to dangerous and also expensive compared to P. I. Transport. The women there do often have enhanced breasts unlike all the flat chested ladies in the P. I. Yeah you can have fun there but it's not worth it IMO. One thing they do have is superior convenience stores, well stocked with good selection-you don't have to eat at restaurants all the time. Judging from all the recent posts on Pattaya, many agree with my assessment and are not going there any longer. And we have had multiple posts from foreigners wanting info on the P. I. because they want to get out of Thailand.
First of all, nicely done on this girl, she is smoking hot. Fuck, looking at her from a fucking screen in California make me want to kill myself. I don't think the photos you posted is photoshopped.
Many BMs feel like you have to treat these girls like humans and blah blah blah. I am the first to tell you, if you show any kind of weakness to these girls, they will take you for just that, a weak individual. I have helped girls, met their parents, grandparents, family and friends, they still saw the Gringo as weak person who they could take advantage. Soon as I learned what the cost of living was in Medellin, things quickly changed.I believe every human being deserves to be treated with respect. Since when did treating a cute girl with care and respect a show of weakness?
I guess great minds and evil minds all think alike. I'm not judging here. If you want to fuck a girl that you consider sub-human, go right ahead.
If you can blow $10,000 a month on girls and party habits, by all means you should have the funds to return to Medellin whenever you get ready. **Personally, I have asked about Thailand and couldn't get a straight answer about the pricing, so I decided to not travel Pattaya and Bangkok because no one could give me the answers that I was looking for. So I remain in Medellin and I am quite happy. If there is ever a place that has as many women and the women are as reasonable as Medellin then I might give it a try, but when one person tells me that Thailand is a little bit more, and another says its about the same, given the travel time and the time it would take me to learn the surrounding area, I'll be stuck in South America until the right wing man comes along and wants to take me out East and show me around. **Here is a little thing that I have been banging daily and she even came over during this Quarantine to bang my brains out for 3 hours for $120, only because she had to pay for a taxi back to her barrio. Pollo Negro is out!In my opinion, Medellin is infinitely better than Thailand.
Thanks for the tip. Fingers crossed 🙂.
You probably watched Duque's cabinet address tonight. They went over the rules again. The loophole is the girl has to be out to buy food or medicine. If stopped she just needs to say she is headed to pick up a cash loan to buy food or medicine. If she is alone and dressed modestly the police won't bother her. Give it a day or two, when the food and money really gets low I think you will find they become more adventurous.
PunkedLife
03-24-20, 16:08
Trust me the girl is only 85-90 lbs tops. You're looking into way too hard, plenty BMs have seen this chic. Great in bed, but usually not my type. But we all have our opinions, nice try buddy. Only thing done to this photo was resized to be loaded up. Quick question what would I gain by altering her photo? If you're not here you damn sure can't meet her but to satisfy your Curiosity PM. & I can give you a up close look at her so you can cut the photo shopping foolishness out! Pollo negro is out!So people come on here and post reviews about catching a different unicorn or two every day they happen to be in Medellin. Doesn't post any pics. Refuses to give any info on these fictional characters because "they don't want to share." Doesn't have not one bad experience. Girls seem to be falling in love with them after a few hours of probably mediocre sex and putting her up on a pedestal. At least for the girls that happen to actually exist. All this and more and no one says anything. Now someone posts several pics and now ya'll want to call BS. I swear this shit can't get any more hilarious than this. Go head please keep it up ya'll. Give us some more entertainment during this quarantine. SMDH.
Except for unusually light traffic, today looks and sounds like a normal day in Medellin. It will be very interesting to see what tomorrow brings. I don't know if it will be possible for the government to put the genie back in the bottle. Every hour that goes by today the city feels more normal.
I'm not going to be going out of my way to be in any big crowds.
Shit I should of stayed in Medellin, sounds like a total buyers market in El Centro, and if I were to get stopped walking there I would pull out a Tienda 1 market bag and say I'm shopping at the Tienda 1 in El Centro, 1/2 block down from the corner where all the hookers congregate down from the Church.
I so far do not regret my decision at all. We will see how this plays out. I think the worst case scenario is I will have some slow days here and there. I'm less worried about it after yesterday because I know I will have my pick of Centro's ground zero.
Shit I should of stayed in Medellin, sounds like a total buyers market in El Centro, and if I were to get stopped walking there I would pull out a Tienda 1 market bag and say I'm shopping at the Tienda 1 in El Centro, 1/2 block down from the corner where all the hookers congregate down from the Church.
Surfer, your saying it's only 30 k for girls in centro. What do these chicks look like for that cheap. If I stay at Hotel Botero which was recommended here are they all around there just walking. What's the scene like. Once this virus thing is over I'm going. Had to cancel my flight 2 weeks ago because of the quarantine.
GringoItaliano
03-24-20, 19:30
This first leg of my recent trip to Colombia was my third visit to Medellin; please see my separate posts for an overview of my whole trip (which I have already posted on the General Thread) and a more detailed report on Cali (which is forthcoming on the Cali thread). I planned and executed the Medellin leg of my trip differently from before in two key ways, both which yielded more favorable net results than my last trip and renewed my interest in Medellin. I now feel like I have experienced Medellin in the way that most other posters have described. I hope to come back once travel conditions return to some semblance of normalcy.
The first key change was to cut the cord from the sheltered environment of the Mansion, where I stayed on my two previous trips. I had limited myself to the Mansion for security and logistical reasons, the on-site talent pool, and intel sharing with other mongers. In retrospect, this self-imposed restriction was a huge hindrance, if only for the fact that the Mansion's finite number of rooms require one to book well in advance, whereas chica-friendly apartment rentals are generally available on shorter notice. Recent changes at the Mansion, including the separation of La Cueva bar from the hotel proper and the admission of outside guests into that bar for a cover charge, made it a less desirable lodging option for access to its on-site talent pool. The quality of accommodations at the Mansion are poor value for the money by local standards, including the reliability and speed of the Wi-Fi, which was critical to enable me to work remotely and thus avoid using vacation time. I also came to accept the limitations of intel sharing with other mongers and the unpredictability of many paisas, and I concluded that the online resources at my disposal (including this one) would be sufficient for my intel sharing purposes. More generally, I had been around Colombia enough, including two subsequent trips to the (in) famous Santa Fe red light district in Bogota, to feel confident enough branching out on my own in Medellin.
I decided to stay in a unit belonging to Poblado Rentals, a reputable and long-standing source of chica-friendly apartment rentals. Since this trip was my first time staying outside the Mansion, it made sense to be conservative and go with a well-known company catering to mongers, rather than some random AirBnB host. I also thought that it would make sense to stay in the familiar neighborhood of Poblado again, albeit in a different part of it. I stayed in one of their buildings close to Parque Poblado and within walking distance of Parque Lleras. I was happy with the unit and the staff and would be happy to stay in one of their units again. If nothing else, having an actual living room with a couch helped me to get to know the girls a bit before getting down to business, as I might have done at the Mansion, and the jacuzzi was useful too. Nonetheless, I might stay in Laureles on my next trip, if only for the sake of variety and in order to be in a location more convenient for the girls to reach me more easily. The gringo / hipster scene around Parque Lleras got old quickly, although I liked the Medellin Beer Factory.
The second key change was in the talent pool from which I drew. On my first trip, I sessioned almost exclusively with girls I met on-site at the Mansion. On my second trip, I focused on well-known Facebook girls, with a handful of girls that I met on-site at the Mansion as backups. I planned to branch out further on this trip to include well-known Facebook girls, Facebook girls on whom I had some intel from online resources, and Facebook girls on whom I had no intel at all from any source. I had long been skeptical of Internet pipelines and strongly preferred in-person venues, if only for the opportunity to vet the girls physically and socially, assess chemistry, and "kick the tires," so to speak. I only accepted Internet pipelines in Colombia reluctantly because I liked Colombians so much, and I still wanted reviews and intel from other mongers to compensate for the inability to check them out in person before they show up at my door. I finally came to accept that paisas are simply too unpredictable to let the presence or absence of intel on them have such a huge impact on my selections, and I felt that I was comfortable enough vetting them online myself to forego intel on them. More importantly, I found that it was often prohibitively difficult to schedule an appointment with any particular well-known girl at any one time. I just went with whichever one of my candidates was available when I had a free time slot, although I did give preference to the more reputable ones.
In retrospect, this revised approach was one of the soundest decisions I made and put me on a course to be even more accepting of the inherently unpredictable and chaotic nature of this hobby. Indeed, my worst session this week was with a very well-known Facebook girl with a very positive reputation, and many of my best sessions were with girls that had no previous track record that I could find in any online mongering resources. I have read many complaints here about so many mongers fucking the same small talent pool of the same well-known Facebook girls over and over again. I never saw that tendency as a problem until now, as I have discovered the virtue of finding my own talent, and I have come to accept that trying to predict the unpredictable is often self-defeating. I developed my own online vetting techniques, but I found that even those had their own limitations as well. One of the new girls in whom I had the highest hopes turned out to be a total flake, and one of the girls about whom I had some serious doubts turned out to be one of my best finds ever. Go figure.
Scheduling and timing turned out to be the biggest problem on this trip. I had my taste of the paisas' infamous tardiness on my last trip, when well-known Facebook girls might be as much as 30-45 minutes late for citas at the Mansion, but that was about as bad it as it got. Scheduling girls and getting them to show up on time – not late, and not early either – was a much bigger headache this time. The difference was so pronounced that there must have been a reason for it, and I wonder if it had anything to do with staying outside the Mansion or picking less-known or unknown girls. Ironically, though, my most egregious case, a girl who did not show up at all and did not even bother to try to explain herself until 48 hours later, was a girl that I had seen before and had a quite positive track record. I thought that repeats were supposed to be more reliable, but I guess not. My second-most egregious case was a girl who showed up more than three hours late on a Monday night, citing heavy traffic. In that three hours, I had already contacted one of my alternate girls, and she got to my apartment from the same barrio as my original choice within one hour of my request, fucked me, and left by the time that my original girl arrived. What I did not expect was that many girls were very early – not 5-10 minutes early, but 30-40 minutes early. I had heard of early arrivals before, but I had no idea that they would be both so early and so frequent. I thus made a point of showering and grooming myself 1 hour before the time of the cita, just in case the girl was as much as half an hour early.
I also learned the hard way that planning too far in advance, in the hopes of ensuring access to a particular girl, is often an exercise in futility. I found that the further in advance once schedules a cita, the less likely it is to happen as planned, as there are so many things that can happen in between the time that one schedules it and the time it is supposed to occur. In contrast, last-minute scheduling of a cita is most likely to succeed, as there are fewer obstacles that can crop up between the time that you schedule the cita and the time that the girl is supposed to arrive. The problem with this approach is that it often encourages one to write to multiple girls at once – so which one do you choose, if more than one of your prospects is available? The one that answers first? Or do you wait around for the one that you like more to write back – but if you do wait, for how long? Whichever one you choose, how do you explain to the other ones that you are actually busy now, after you just asked for an immediate cita half an hour ago? Do the girls even care if you come off as flaky, or do they consider that normal?
Now for the bottom line – on average, I would rate the girls' performance as higher than that of my selection of well-known Facebook girls on my last trip, albeit with more fluctuation and variation. On both of my previous stays at the Mansion, I found that the service was consistently at least satisfactory or OK; it was rare for a girl to distinguish herself or really knock it out of the park, but I never had any duds either. This time there were several girls that really distinguished themselves and knocked it out of the park, but there were also a few duds. I was comfortable with this trade-off, as I think it yielded better results overall. It may have also validated my decision to rely less on online intel from other mongers, as one of my duds was well-known and had a positive reputation, and some of my best performers were little known or totally unknown in my various online resources.
One area in which I have found Colombians are often weaker performers is blowjobs, which are probably more important to me than they are to many other mongers. Indeed, the weak or half-assed head game of many Colombians has been a significant factor in keeping me from returning to Colombia more frequently than I might have otherwise. On this Medellin leg of my trip, however, the weak or half-assed head game seemed to have disappeared; on average, the head game was much better than on my last trip, when I used reviews and intel from other mongers online to find the girls with the best head game. I fared much better this time just rolling the dice, but the difference was so pronounced that I have a hard time believing that it was a coincidence and not a product of some factors that I cannot identify. Perhaps the simple answer is that my revised approach yielded better performers and performances in general, including better head game, but the improvement in their head game was more pronounced than in other areas or overall. I am curious to hear anyone else's explanation.
AdventureSeekr
03-24-20, 19:37
Surfer, your saying it's only 30 k for girls in centro. What do these chicks look like for that cheap. If I stay at Hotel Botero which was recommended here are they all around there just walking. What's the scene like. Once this virus thing is over I'm going. Had to cancel my flight 2 weeks ago because of the quarantine.I've walked through a handful of times around 11 am and 3-4 pm on different days and hung around for a couple hours each time and never seen anything I liked or would smash for free. I know a few others who feel the same way but I do imagine if you really put in the time and are staying in the area where you could walk through 4-6 times a day, once in a awhile you're bound to find something you like. I think too that the top picks are probably not on the street long, they're in sessions so you got to get lucky on timing. They're not walking around, they're kind of just posted up and standing around, or sitting inside the stairwells to short term hotels. It's pretty obvious who is working and I've seen the same girls there on different days.
I so far do not regret my decision at all. We will see how this plays out. I think the worst case scenario is I will have some slow days here and there. I'm less worried about it after yesterday because I know I will have my pick of Centro's ground zero.Yep your going to get the "pick of the litter" for sure. Just be very careful please, your like this boards only war correspondent on the ground, and if I was there I would be out lurking around as well.
I know other guy's in Medellin who are afraid to leave their apartments, so again, please be careful.
Surfer, your saying it's only 30 k for girls in centro. What do these chicks look like for that cheap. If I stay at Hotel Botero which was recommended here are they all around there just walking. What's the scene like. Once this virus thing is over I'm going. Had to cancel my flight 2 weeks ago because of the quarantine.You will hear different prices. 30 K is a common price. 50 K is also common.
Some rare gems may show up once in a while and they may ask a lot more, then they are gone and you won't see them again. I personally have never paid 30 K but that maybe because I never bargain. One time I agreed to 30 K but was asked for 40 K after the session. I just paid it. Another time that I have reported before, I was quoted 30 K one day, the next day it is 50 K.
We met a gringo sitting on a bench telling us we should never pay more than 50K. He claimed he has a database of every chicas and he is a lawyer working for US government.
Surfer, your saying it's only 30 k for girls in centro. What do these chicks look like for that cheap. If I stay at Hotel Botero which was recommended here are they all around there just walking. What's the scene like. Once this virus thing is over I'm going. Had to cancel my flight 2 weeks ago because of the quarantine.I honestly cannot recommend the El Centro street scene for the majority of the members on this board, I say this based on the following.
1 The beauty of the girls working the streets in El Centro isn't all that great, however there are a few diamonds in the rough, but you have to spend a lot of time there to find them. A lot of guys want women with beautiful faces, that is their first criteria, so El Centro is not going to work for them. For guys like me, the women's bodies are more important followed by their facial features, but at the end of the day, their attitudes trump everything. Most guys wouldn't go with the girls I go with, not pretty enough, etc. I am not there to fuck their faces, but to be with girls that are totally into it. You mentioned 30 K girls in El Centro, just about every single one of them will go for 30 k, if not for less than that, especially the Venezuelans. But in my case, I pay my regulars between 40 -60 K, and that will be for a couple of hours, and I get the full "Monty" for that. For a guy showing up for a week, he will be hard pressed to develop a stable that quickly of regulars.
2. Spanish speaking skills a must or your going to have a difficult time. There are guys here that have declared it not necessary, but it is. I struggle myself at times with my Spanish, but it makes a huge difference.
3. Experience dealing with SW's, guys with not a lot of SW experience are going to go thru a learning curve. In other words, it's not like going to a Casa where the drill is pretty much set or a bar, etc. Your dealing with total freelancers and you need to learn how to interview them, at least I do, which takes Spanish speaking skills, and know "red flags" to look for when going with new girls.
4. It's sleazy and dirty in El Centro, some guys are not cut out for that.
I'm not trying to scare you off from El Centro, I am just trying to give you some things to consider. There are members on this board like myself who thrive on the place, where as others that stick with either FayBoo Chicas, casa's, or clubs.
YippieKayay
03-24-20, 21:50
We met a gringo sitting on a bench telling us we should never pay more than 50K. He claimed he has a database of every chicas and he is a lawyer working for US government.OK. I'll bite. Is he maintaining that database for the US government?
...In my opinion, Medellin is infinitely better than Thailand.I am glad you added the "In my opinion" clause upfront. I think everybody should do that. I get annoyed when people skip that and assume that we all know that's what they meant.
Having said that, I would suggest that it is a question of taste. I have taken 25+ trips to Thailand for mongering purposes, as well as 20+ trips to Colombia, mostly Medellin. So far, I like mongering in Thailand better. It is much easier and I like Asian girls more than Latinas.
OK. I'll bite. Is he maintaining that database for the US government?He was acting mysterious so we joked about that too.
You will hear different prices. 30 K is a common price. 50 K is also common.
Some rare gems may show up once in a while and they may ask a lot more, then they are gone and you won't see them again. I personally have never paid 30 K but that maybe because I never bargain. One time I agreed to 30 K but was asked for 40 K after the session. I just paid it. Another time that I have reported before, I was quoted 30 K one day, the next day it is 50 K.
We met a gringo sitting on a bench telling us we should never pay more than 50K. He claimed he has a database of every chicas and he is a lawyer working for US government.I honestly believe centro is just for the guy who needs to put his dick in anything LOL. They are few just a few I would fuck if I could bring them back to my place. SO 30 K or less is just about right for these girls who look like they have had a very hard life. Just my take of centro. But the town itself is interesting. Lots going on. I would choose casas over street walkers.
One area in which I have found Colombians are often weaker performers is blowjobs, which are probably more important to me than they are to many other mongers. Indeed, the weak or half-assed head game of many Colombians has been a significant factor in keeping me from returning to Colombia more frequently than I might have otherwise. On this Medellin leg of my trip, however, the weak or half-assed head game seemed to have disappeared; on average, the head game was much better than on my last trip, when I used reviews and intel from other mongers online to find the girls with the best head game. I fared much better this time just rolling the dice, but the difference was so pronounced that I have a hard time believing that it was a coincidence and not a product of some factors that I cannot identify. Perhaps the simple answer is that my revised approach yielded better performers and performances in general, including better head game, but the improvement in their head game was more pronounced than in other areas or overall. I am curious to hear anyone else's explanation.That was a great report you put out, as far as an explanation as to getting good head, well in my opinion you identified it in your post. The statement " just rolling the dice" or the luck of the draw. I don't think you can characterize Colombians as being weak performers of blowjobs versus others providers in other Countries. Of all the Countries I have been too I cannot make a distinction that one Country's women are better at giving head than others. Interesting question on your part as I have never seen someone ask a question like this. It will be interesting to hear others take on this.
PolloNegro
03-25-20, 01:44
I honestly believe centro is just for the guy who needs to put his dick in anything LOL. They are few just a few I would fuck if I could bring them back to my place. SO 30 K or less is just about right for these girls who look like they have had a very hard life. Just my take of centro. But the town itself is interesting. Lots going on. I would choose casas over street walkers.Have an idea set in their head about what amount a good girl should receive for her services, even if the sex is horrible. Many mongers avoid Centro because 1. They are afraid of the environment. 2. They try and justify the over spending on girls that they think are worth it. Honestly, sex is sex, I have had more friends catch a bug in Poblado than my friends in Centro. But have at it, make yourself believe that the girls who dress up and put on lipstick are cleaner and more wholesome than the girls in Centro. Only difference truly is the amount that you are willing to pay them in Poblado. Pollo Negro is out!
I am always careful and I appreciate the advice. I know a few gringos here too who won't leave their apartments but won't stop complaining about cabin fever. Pick your poison I guess. Anyway, I had one of my favorites come from Manrique. She was hesitant at first. After we watched President Duque's daily cabinet briefing together she agreed to come again tomorrow. She was reassured when she heard the President and various ministers recite the exceptions: grocery shopping (that seems like a big one), pharmacy runs, ATM, dog walking. Pretty much anything as long as you do it individually. No bars, no groups, no fun.
I saw something very unusual and very funny in Plaza Botero today. All the hookers and trannies were in a line stretching to ground zero and wrapped around almost to the front of the Veracruz church. When I got closer and asked I found out it was the government handing out hot meals and baskets of basic goods. It's been a new experience every day of this quarantine. So, only three weeks to go until it is either extended or ended depending on the incidence of coronavirus cases.
Yep your going to get the "pick of the litter" for sure. Just be very careful please, your like this boards only war correspondent on the ground, and if I was there I would be out lurking around as well.
I know other guy's in Medellin who are afraid to leave their apartments, so again, please be careful.
Mr Enternational
03-25-20, 04:55
Of all the Countries I have been too I cannot make a distinction that one Country's women are better at giving head than others.I agree with you. Head varies from woman to woman no matter the country. But in the fucking department it is Brazil hands down. You can choose any chick at random, pro or non-pro, and she will fuck you into oblivion. It is like they are all trained in some fucking academy or something. Do not go down there and think you are going to outfuck them, because they will send you home crying.
I've walked through a handful of times around 11 am and 3-4 pm on different days and hung around for a couple hours each time and never seen anything I liked or would smash for free. I know a few others who feel the same way but I do imagine if you really put in the time and are staying in the area where you could walk through 4-6 times a day, once in a awhile you're bound to find something you like. I think too that the top picks are probably not on the street long, they're in sessions so you got to get lucky on timing. They're not walking around, they're kind of just posted up and standing around, or sitting inside the stairwells to short term hotels. It's pretty obvious who is working and I've seen the same girls there on different days.On my recent trip to Medellin, first week of March, I was bored one day and went to centro alone around 4 pm. I had been there once earlier, on a previous trip, but I was with a Venezuelan college girl I was banging, and we actually went to visit the museum. While I only discreetly checked or the talent last time, as I didn't want the girl I was with to think I might have cooties, this time I was by myself and in no hurry, so I checked the place out.
For some reason, I lost orientation, and despite reviewing the map at cr52/ cl52 I was still confused, but eventually figured out the lay of the land.
I know folks have strong opinions about centro talent, so the only observation I want to tell newbies to the centro game, is that, you need have patience. It's not like you can get off the flight and come straight here and get in on the action and have optimum results. You need to study the scene and figure out your own best course of action for you. Think of it as a fishing trip.
I did a walk around, stating from the museum towards the strip clubs conejas etc, to the elevated tracks, down the street with the hair and nail places, back to 52/52, then around the Veracruz church, back to 52/52. There was all kinds available, from venis, trannies, junkies, to paisas. I didn't partake, but there is wide variety of things available.
Anyway, I didn't feel particularly threatened or unsafe. If you are OK with rough areas of us cities, you should be OK. Have situational awareness, don't be inebriated, don't carry stuff you don't care to lose, and don't be conspicuous. Common sense stuff.
Some earlier posts had mentioned a bridge near the church. I couldn't find it, but there is a sort of street, with glass top, and you can see pipes and things below it, and you can walk on it. Is that what is referred to as the bridge?
I went into the shopping center across the church, and had meal in a small Restaurant for 10 mil, browsed the stores. Then wandered aimlessly around the area checking out the stores and street vendors, till got tired, and then left.
Hope this information is helpful to someone who might want to check or get into the centro scene.
I agree with you. Head varies from woman to woman no matter the country. But in the fucking department it is Brazil hands down. You can choose any chick at random, pro or non-pro, and she will fuck you into oblivion. It is like they are all trained in some fucking academy or something. Do not go down there and think you are going to outfuck them, because they will send you home crying.Head even varies with the same girl from time to time. Same girl, gave me the most mind blowing head of my life, without condom, even if I offered it, sucked me dry and drank every drop, continued to suck till I got hard again and cum a second time, and only stopped when I got too sensitive and said no mas. Other times she did it with a condom, but did a decent job, another time she did without condom but didn't swallow. I didn't ask for one or the other. I have been with the girl multiple times, and just went with the flow.
So head game may not be the same all the time, even with the same chica. There are a couple of my ATFs in Medellin, that literally suck the life out of me.
PunkedLife
03-25-20, 07:34
You're kind of rambling here. What exactly is pissing you off? Are you upset because Villainy has a personality? Or does it make you angry that women are making money? I can understand being mad at Villainy. It's completely unfair that he's a great guy to spend time with. Kind of baffled if you're furious because women are making money, especially if you insist on paying the "bare minimum. " If you're not going to fund their "lavish" lifestyles living on the "bare minimum", they have to find other ways.
You want to know the crazy thing? Some of the women I know are making solid 6 figure incomes, working 15-20 hours a week without ever touching any guy, unless they have a boyfriend. Does that make you more upset? Heck, my old roommate gets over $600 a week from a guy that she just trades a few messages with every week. And that's less than 20% of her income.
The humor here is that you consider the women in any country where you go to fuck them, unlucky. "Them poor, unlucky ass bitches got to fuck me. " The women I meet there often say they were lucky to meet me.
By the way, the "unlucky ones", born in the countries we like to frequent, are disproportionately represented in the online sex businesses. I can show you high rises in Poblado where 1 of every 8 apartments hosts a webcam model. I can show you a few buildings that are wholly owned by webcam studios. Maybe they're not so unlucky after all.If Villainy has personality then great for him. Personality doesn't make grant you a discount when fucking with these girls no matter how many fantasy stories everyone here posts. It sure as hell doesn't make your experiences drama free. This was really more about women in general and kind of tied into my previous posts regarding slmpin. Either the point I was trying to make soared way over your head and there is no point in discussing it any further.
Maybe some of these webcam girls are doing real well but there are others who have to fuck like 3 or 4 guys every day before they are allowed to log in for a session. The webcam industry isn't as lucrative as you think. Unless you are part of the well-known studios you aren't making shit. And there are girls who make 1 k dollars a day while others struggle to make 500 pesos. Just like there are the unfortunate there are also the fortunate. And there are way more unfortunate and unlucky in this country.
You're literally spitting here. You accuse the girls of lacking common sense, yet you claim they are simultaneously living lavish lifestyles and living on the bare minimum. Maybe common sense means something else to you. Where I come from common sense says that's impossible. Common sense also says that you haven't spent sufficient time, with a significant number of Colombians, to determine what flaws everyone in the nation has.
Then you switch into a homoerotic fantasy of guys kissing their girlfriends after the girlfriend sucked someone else's dick. Can we get Freud to weigh in on this? It wouldn't be an issue, except you're in the same boat. Except, if you only go with girls who will accept the bare minimum, you're kissing the ones who have been doing unspeakable things with that mouth. That's just plain nasty.
I do control the price. Every time. I pay what I want to pay. I also control what I expect from the girls. Almost every time I get everything I want. Often I get more. I'm not paying the price you pay, because I'm unwilling to accept what you will accept. I don't expect them to do the things you want them to do, because I want them to do the things I want.Maybe a wealthy person that speaks multiple languages and has a visa and travels around because they took advantage of the opportunity that was given to them whatever that is might not seem like they lack common sense. But they might if you spend enough time around them and witness how they act in compromising situations. When you take away all that materialistic shit they revert back to how they were raised and who they really are. I have been in relationships with Colombian women where I interacted with their family, their friends, people all around them and within their communities enough to come down to the conclusion that these people don't have common sense. Yes, there are exceptions but I am speaking in general. My mind has been made up and it's going to take more than a few paragraphs to undo all the stupidity I have experienced. When you have to constantly explain the most logical and simplistic thing over and over to these people it just makes you give up. It's like you are speaking to a wall at times. Now if you need an example of the lack of common sense then we can take what probably been discussed many times before. I used to try and rationalize it and I can say that my last visit to Colombia has just solidified that theory for me. These girls whether they are in Centro or wherever really, they don't always have a date. Some of them go home hungry. Shit, they are probably going to starve during this quarantine. So tell me why would they choose to fuck up any future money that they may make? It's a simple concept. Do a good job on this date and I will more than likely get more dates in the future. Instead, they try to rob you, overquote / overcharge you, say they will do one thing then change shit up after the cita starts, etc. Etc. Yah I know a lot of them seem to have options and you have sumps that accept these actions for whatever reason. But not all of them continue to receive any dates. No, they are fucking starving but yet they continue with the same fucking games. Does this not scream a lack of common sense? To me it does. And I have had a lot of experiences big or small where I sit down and ponder wtf is going on in their heads. At the end of the day, I just can't accept stupidity and there is a lot of stupidity in that country. DR Tambien. That is why I have said its a cultural thing. How else can you explain it?
You do have a point about the whole kissing topic. I would be a liar if I said I never kissed a hooker. I don't do it very often. I am not like a lot of guys who actually look for that true GFE experience. Shit I hate sharing any food or drinks with anyone regardless of gender. Thank god I don't smoke because I always find it disgusting to be passing a blunt around a circle of random people. People eat ass and do all kinds of shit that I don't fuck with. But since I have kissed a few girls touche. I did set myself up for that.
Yes we all have our preferences and what we are willing to accept or sacrifice. Do you and I will continue to do me. But you are only lying to yourself if you say you pay what you pay and also that you don't ever have any issues. Again maybe if a girl gives you a sob story about why she has to leave the cita early then your more willing to accept her reasons and pay her the full agreed price. Maybe you don't. Only you would truly know the truth in these words. But we all know you ain't running around out here living la vida loca sin ningun problemas buddy.
We can leave out the exchange rate, but it's impossible to talk intelligently about price without understanding the effects of inflation on price. Otherwise, all you're doing is throwing a tantrum.
In the (as confirmed by ColombiaLover) past 15 years the price for Mansion / Facebook girls has remained relatively unchanged. The price for rent in Colombia has more than doubled. The price for food has more than doubled. The price for clothing has more than doubled. The price for utilities, medical care and everything else has more than doubled. That's inflation. It happens in Colombia. It affects the poor worse than the wealthy.
The girls who were getting 150 k 15 years ago were low volume. They only needed 2 or 3 tricks a week to live well. Some worked harder, saved money and opened their own businesses. To have the same discretionary income, a Facebook girl today needs twice as many tricks each week.
At some point either price must go up, service must go down, or quality must go down. That's the effect of stagnant wages with inflation. It happens in every industry. If you don't believe me, compare fast food restaurants 10 years ago with fast food restaurants today.Again you missed my point. I meant no point in discussing inflation because if these bitches don't know that one day they made 70 dollars while next week they making 50 dollars while the peso amount stays the same then why are we having this discussion? Most of these bitches are illiterate and uneducated. Unless they go to school for finance and not make-up and nails like every girl I speak to tells me they not learning this shit. As far as discussing inflation amongst ourselves well my point still stands. I agree with most of what you say but without getting too technical with the numbers Colombians are not making that much in general. So maybe it has increased in the last 15 years. But it doesn't warrant her getting 300 k like some of them be quoting in Poblado or them high ass prices in these strip clubs. Had a ***** I met in La Isla quote me 400 k for an hour and to hit her up if I am interested. She probably ain't getting that on the regular but she getting close enough to where she feels bold enough to pull that shit with me. And if things have doubled in the last 15 years why is that even relevant? All you guys talk about here are fucking prepubescent like girls by the age of 18 to 20 LOL. These bitches don't know what shit was like back when they were still wearing diapers 15 years ago. All they know is recent so let's move this inflation topic to the last 3 or so years. But go ahead and come up with actual numbers we can verify otherwise your argument will just be invalid.
How could anyone possibly forget this?People on this board do this all the time of course.
Have an idea set in their head about what amount a good girl should receive for her services, even if the sex is horrible. Many mongers avoid Centro because 1. They are afraid of the environment. 2. They try and justify the over spending on girls that they think are worth it. Honestly, sex is sex, I have had more friends catch a bug in Poblado than my friends in Centro. But have at it, make yourself believe that the girls who dress up and put on lipstick are cleaner and more wholesome than the girls in Centro. Only difference truly is the amount that you are willing to pay them in Poblado. Pollo Negro is out!Bro, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you? I guess that you cannot be over 20. "Sex is Sex" Who are we kidding. If I want free sex with a decent looking girl in her late 20's or early 30's, I will stay in the states. I remember when I was a horny teenager, I had the same mentality that "sex is sex," and my dick is satisfied as long as there is pussy to put it in. My standard has evolved as I aged, I'm now in my 30's, and I can tell you without a doubt that there is a vast spectrum of sex. The "sex is sex" argument is as ridiculous as the argument that "a taco is a taco, and there is no difference between the shit they sell in Taco Bell and the street food in Mexico City. " (If you have been to Mexico City, then my point is irrefutable).
I have been to El Centro multiple times; I never sessioned there; I'm still waiting for that Rihanna-look-alike-18-year-old-Centro-pregnant-chick who will treat me like I'm the last man she will ever fuck. I enjoy the rawness of El Centro, I've brought rounds and made friends using my google translator (for the newcomers, don't try this if you are not an experienced traveler). I go to Lleras every weekend, and on weekdays, I hang out in the local streets of Envigado. My FB girls took me deep inside of their neighbors (Bello and Belen) to buy Tussi and ecstasy. I can confidently say that I know a little bit about Medellin.
The girls in Centro command my respect; however, I won't fuck them, because I had much rather fuck a girl in a more beautiful environment, get a ton of extra service, take her out to party all night and bring her back to fuck a few more times. I also enjoy a girl who is more patient with my slow google translate response rate. Sex with two smoking hot 18-year-olds on a roof-top terrace after spending hours dance with them in Gusto must be different than fucking them for 30 minutes in a motel in Centro. The experience is not necessarily better, that depends on ones' personal preference, but I think if we throw away the monetary concern, then evolution will tell us that fucking two 18-years-olds for multiple hours in a nice environment is much more desirable.
Anyways, I'm not trying to degrade the El Centro experience; I believe it is an integral part of the Medellin mongering culture. I'm simply pointing out that it is not the only experience, and for many, myself included, it is nowhere near the best experience you can find in Medellin.
I am glad you added the "In my opinion" clause upfront. I think everybody should do that. I get annoyed when people skip that and assume that we all know that's what they meant.
Having said that, I would suggest that it is a question of taste. I have taken 25+ trips to Thailand for mongering purposes, as well as 20+ trips to Colombia, mostly Medellin. So far, I like mongering in Thailand better. It is much easier and I like Asian girls more than Latinas.How else would I say it. I'm simply not into Asia chicks, I do find them physically attractive, it is just because most of the Asian girls can't dance well, they don't do a lot of drugs, and most of them can't hold their liquid; in my book, those characteristics are kiss of death. Furthermore, in Bangkok all clubs close at 2 am. In Medellin you can always find places full of working girls open everyday until 6-8 am in the morning, and most of the girls in Medellin love to drink excessively and partake in whatever substance I can offer them.
I honestly cannot recommend the El Centro street scene for the majority of the members on this board, I say this based on the following.
1 The beauty of the girls working the streets in El Centro isn't all that great, however there are a few diamonds in the rough, but you have to spend a lot of time there to find them. A lot of guys want women with beautiful faces, that is their first criteria, so El Centro is not going to work for them. For guys like me, the women's bodies are more important followed by their facial features, but at the end of the day, their attitudes trump everything. Most guys wouldn't go with the girls I go with, not pretty enough, etc. I am not there to fuck their faces, but to be with girls that are totally into it. You mentioned 30 K girls in El Centro, just about every single one of them will go for 30 k, if not for less than that, especially the Venezuelans. But in my case, I pay my regulars between 40 -60 K, and that will be for a couple of hours, and I get the full "Monty" for that. For a guy showing up for a week, he will be hard pressed to develop a stable that quickly of regulars.I agree. This is a much more objective view of the El Centro scene than that "sex is sex" or "treating them as sub-human" talk. I can tell that you are a much more refine monger. Anyway, I enjoy waking up with a double blowjob from two 18-year-olds who I fucked and partied all night with, I doubt that I will find that in El Centro. It could be that I'm pushing 40, and I reminisce those youthful days clubbing with girls.
2. Spanish speaking skills a must or your going to have a difficult time. There are guys here that have declared it not necessary, but it is. I struggle myself at times with my Spanish, but it makes a huge difference.Bro, what can I say. No one can learn every language in the world. If you have an ample amount of traveling experience under your belt and you appreciate different cultures, then you can still bang girls in El Centro using google translator. I agree, knowing Spanish is a BIG plus.
3. Experience dealing with SW's, guys with not a lot of SW experience are going to go thru a learning curve. In other words, it's not like going to a Casa where the drill is pretty much set or a bar, etc. Your dealing with total freelancers and you need to learn how to interview them, at least I do, which takes Spanish speaking skills, and know "red flags" to look for when going with new girls.This is pretty basic for an experienced monger. From the Mab in Rio (use to be the Balcony, and for the love of god, we all miss Help), to the Jaco beach in Costa Rica, to club Fantasy in Cuba, to Langstrasse in Zurich, to Wan Chai in Hong Kong, to Na Na (after 2 am) in Bangkok, to the long-street in Cape Town, to the streets of Nairobi in Kenya, picking up girls from the street is monger intro course 101. You should learn that before you learn differential equations.
4. It's sleazy and dirty in El Centro, some guys are not cut out for that.
I'm not trying to scare you off from El Centro, I am just trying to give you some things to consider. There are members on this board like myself who thrive on the place, where as others that stick with either FayBoo Chicas, casa's, or clubs.If a person is such a snob, then why travel world-wide to monger at all. Just stay at home and fuck that high school sweetheart. Seriously, people have no idea how much they are missing by enclosing themselves in a small bubble.
I honestly cannot recommend the El Centro street scene for the majority of the members on this board, I say this based on the following.
1 The beauty of the girls working the streets in El Centro isn't all that great, however there are a few diamonds in the rough, but you have to spend a lot of time there to find them. A lot of guys want women with beautiful faces, that is their first criteria, so El Centro is not going to work for them. For guys like me, the women's bodies are more important followed by their facial features, but at the end of the day, their attitudes trump everything. Most guys wouldn't go with the girls I go with, not pretty enough, etc. I am not there to fuck their faces, but to be with girls that are totally into it. You mentioned 30 K girls in El Centro, just about every single one of them will go for 30 k, if not for less than that, especially the Venezuelans. But in my case, I pay my regulars between 40 -60 K, and that will be for a couple of hours, and I get the full "Monty" for that. For a guy showing up for a week, he will be hard pressed to develop a stable that quickly of regulars.
2. Spanish speaking skills a must or your going to have a difficult time. There are guys here that have declared it not necessary, but it is. I struggle myself at times with my Spanish, but it makes a huge difference..You articulated it quite well. That's probably the most honest description of El Centro I've seen.
I love the sleaze and dirt of El Centro, but I'm not into the SW scene. I'll make a few laps, maybe have a beer, then sit in Plaza Botero for awhile.
Have an idea set in their head about what amount a good girl should receive for her services, even if the sex is horrible. Many mongers avoid Centro because 1. They are afraid of the environment. 2. They try and justify the over spending on girls that they think are worth it. Honestly, sex is sex, I have had more friends catch a bug in Poblado than my friends in Centro. But have at it, make yourself believe that the girls who dress up and put on lipstick are cleaner and more wholesome than the girls in Centro. Only difference truly is the amount that you are willing to pay them in Poblado. Pollo Negro is out!I have not been to a sex strip as deplorable as el centro. Maybe if I grabbed a girl and used their hotel then my opinion might change. I may say this is not bad. Doubt it but maybe. You have pregnant women, ladies looking like they going to die, been to hell and back, clothing are dingy. I am sorry. I am a Cheapy charley all day long. This analysis as nothing with over spending on chicks. Only thing I agree with you. If a few of these girls made it to lleras park you probably would pay 100 mil for there service.
Mr Enternational
03-25-20, 15:01
I have not been to a sex strip as deplorable as el centro. LOL. You must not have been to many then!
I have not been to a sex strip as deplorable as el centro. Maybe if I grabbed a girl and used their hotel then my opinion might change. I may say this is not bad. Doubt it but maybe. You have pregnant women, ladies looking like they going to die, been to hell and back, clothing are dingy. I am sorry. I am a Cheapy charley all day long. This analysis as nothing with over spending on chicks. Only thing I agree with you. If a few of these girls made it to lleras park you probably would pay 100 mil for there service.If you were truly a "Cheap Charlie", you would be scouring El Centro like some of the low level bottom feeding "street rats" on this board.
And to further confuse the issue, some of the "street rats" on this board, like myself, can easily afford to pull girls from Lleras and Gustos if they wanted to, so why would somebody bother with such a deplorable place like El Centro.
For me, it's the allure of the unknown, kind of like uncharted territory at times.
Imagine during the Gold Rush looking for nuggets, or mining for diamonds.
Kind of like a box of chocolate at times. You never know what you might encounter digging thru all that trash.
If you were truly a "Cheap Charlie", you would be scouring El Centro like some of the low level bottom feeding "street rats" on this board.
And to further confuse the issue, some of the "street rats" on this board, like myself, can easily afford to pull girls from Lleras and Gustos if they wanted to, so why would somebody bother with such a deplorable place like El Centro.
For me, it's the allure of the unknown, kind of like uncharted territory at times.
Imagine during the Gold Rush looking for nuggets, or mining for diamonds.
Kind of like a box of chocolate at times. You never know what you might encounter digging thru all that trash.I've been a "street rat" in Centro for over 20 years now, for all the reasons you stated above, LOL.
Though I've delved into the FB scene, the street always calls my name.
You may see it differently 10 years from now, even if you can't yet imagine that possibility.
Bro, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you? I guess that you cannot be over 20. "Sex is Sex" Who are we kidding. If I want free sex with a decent looking girl in her late 20's or early 30's, I will stay in the states. I remember when I was a horny teenager, I had the same mentality that "sex is sex," and my dick is satisfied as long as there is pussy to put it in. My standard has evolved as I aged, I'm now in my 30's, and I can tell you without a doubt that there is a vast spectrum of sex. The "sex is sex" argument is as ridiculous as the argument that "a taco is a taco, and there is no difference between the shit they sell in Taco Bell and the street food in Mexico City. " (If you have been to Mexico City, then my point is irrefutable).
I have been to El Centro multiple times; I never sessioned there; I'm still waiting for that Rihanna-look-alike-18-year-old-Centro-pregnant-chick who will treat me like I'm the last man she will ever fuck. I enjoy the rawness of El Centro, I've brought rounds and made friends using my google translator (for the newcomers, don't try this if you are not an experienced traveler). I go to Lleras every weekend, and on weekdays, I hang out in the local streets of Envigado. My FB girls took me deep inside of their neighbors (Bello and Belen) to buy Tussi and ecstasy. I can confidently say that I know a little bit about Medellin.
Visit India, Cambodia, or even mid tier Shanghai barber shops and get back to us. Experiences are relative in the end.
I have not been to a sex strip as deplorable as el centro. Maybe if I grabbed a girl and used their hotel then my opinion might change. I may say this is not bad. Doubt it but maybe. You have pregnant women, ladies looking like they going to die, been to hell and back, clothing are dingy. I am sorry. I am a Cheapy charley all day long. This analysis as nothing with over spending on chicks. Only thing I agree with you. If a few of these girls made it to lleras park you probably would pay 100 mil for there service.
If Villainy has personality then great for him. Personality doesn't make grant you a discount when fucking with these girls no matter how many fantasy stories everyone here posts. It sure as hell doesn't make your experiences drama free. This was really more about women in general and kind of tied into my previous posts regarding slmpin. Either the point I was trying to make soared way over your head and there is no point in discussing it any further.
Maybe some of these webcam girls are doing real well but there are others who have to fuck like 3 or 4 guys every day before they are allowed to log in for a session. The webcam industry isn't as lucrative as you think. Unless you are part of the well-known studios you aren't making shit. And there are girls who make 1 k dollars a day while others struggle to make 500 pesos. Just like there are the unfortunate there are also the fortunate. And there are way more unfortunate and unlucky in this country.
Maybe a wealthy person that speaks multiple languages and has a visa and travels around because they took advantage of the opportunity that was given to them whatever that is might not seem like they lack common sense. But they might if you spend enough time around them and witness how they act in compromising situations. When you take away all that materialistic shit they revert back to how they were raised and who they really are. I have been in relationships with Colombian women where I interacted with their family, their friends, people all around them and within their communities enough to come down to the conclusion that these people don't have common sense. Yes, there are exceptions but I am speaking in general. My mind has been made up and it's going to take more than a few paragraphs to undo all the stupidity I have experienced. When you have to constantly explain the most logical and simplistic thing over and over to these people it just makes you give up. It's like you are speaking to a wall at times. Now if you need an example of the lack of common sense then we can take what probably been discussed many times before. I used to try and rationalize it and I can say that my last visit to Colombia has just solidified that theory for me. These girls whether they are in Centro or wherever really, they don't always have a date. Some of them go home hungry. Shit, they are probably going to starve during this quarantine. So tell me why would they choose to fuck up any future money that they may make? It's a simple concept. Do a good job on this date and I will more than likely get more dates in the future. Instead, they try to rob you, overquote / overcharge you, say they will do one thing then change shit up after the cita starts, etc. Etc. Yah I know a lot of them seem to have options and you have sumps that accept these actions for whatever reason. But not all of them continue to receive any dates. No, they are fucking starving but yet they continue with the same fucking games. Does this not scream a lack of common sense? To me it does. And I have had a lot of experiences big or small where I sit down and ponder wtf is going on in their heads. At the end of the day, I just can't accept stupidity and there is a lot of stupidity in that country. DR Tambien. That is why I have said its a cultural thing. How else can you explain it?.I'm not going to bother splitting it up. You'll have to figure it out on your own.
In April 2017, I came to Medellin to work for a webcam studio. Over the next 12 months I had some dealings with 4 different studios, around 20 models and 6 different webcam platforms. For the first 9 months I shared an apartment with a successful webcam model. We remain close friends. It eventually all fell apart and I went home. I've already told the entire story twice here, that's more than enough. I have slightly more insight into the webcam world than the average guy. Do we need to have this discussion.
I brought up webcam because you were ranting about girls making money with their premium Snapchat. Why does that bother you? There are women supporting themselves doing all types of jobs. If you don't want to help support them, walk away. There's no reason to get pissed because someone is making money without fucking you.
The next part is kind of confusing. I'll repeat this for you. In less than 24 hours you stated that the working girls are living lavish lifestyles, and you stated they are living on the bare minimum. That's a blatant contradiction. Yet, you want to claim the entire population of the country has no common sense. Stating two opposite claims about a group of people makes no sense. Until you can adequately explain the contradiction to me, I can't accept that you are a competent judge of common sense.
"We all know. "
No. Actually you don't know. You assume. You assume that because you have problems, I have problems. Let me tell a story.
There was a guy who, several years ago, was a frequent poster here and on another board. I read a bunch of his reports and I knew he was completely full of bullshit. There was no way this guy was telling the truth. He hunted me down in Medellin and introduced himself. Over the next few weeks he proved that everything he wrote was accurate. I learned a great deal. Mostly, I learned that you can't judge someone you don't know. Even if someone else is sending you PMs claiming they know the guy.
Rather than tearing apart each of your claims, I'll shorten this.
Everything you are getting so worked up about is subjective, not objective. You assume that everyone else is having the same issues, the same difficulties, and have decided, since everyone else isn't complaining, we must all be weak, scared, pussy blind, little boys that just let the women walk all over us.
What you fail to consider is, maybe it's just you. Maybe all the other guys are telling the truth. Maybe we don't have that many problems. Do you honestly think, if I had problems with anyone that I wouldn't write about them? I write about everything. Several people here, including the Admins, have wished I wouldn't write about so many things.
But I don't encounter those problems. Not every session is spectacular, but none are terrible. At first I had problems. I learned and figured out how to avoid the problems. Girls aren't in a hurry to leave, girls don't argue about doing the things I want and girls don't try to change the price on me.
Why don't I have those problems? The same reason why everyone was happy when I came back to my old job. The same reason why I get hugged at my favorite restaurants. The same reason why girls I dated 35-40 years ago write and say they have great memories of me.
I treat people decent. I smile, I shake hands, I ask how they're doing and I listen. I'm genuinely interested in the people I meet, whether it's the CEO of my company or a working girl in Medellin. I want them all to have great, interesting lives and experiences. I want to hear their stories. I want to know how they got that scar, or why they got this tattoo. I want to know their dreams. When they leave me, I want them to be thinking more about me and less about the money.
I don't want to piss or dump on them, I don't want to abuse them, I don't want to remind them that they are just poor trash. I don't want to argue with them over the price of a fast food combo meal and I don't want them to treat me as if I'm better than them.
Your way works for you. It doesn't seem to work very well because all you can do is complain about the outcome, but perhaps complaining about all the little problems makes you happier than overcoming those problems and having consistent great sex.
My way works for me. It seems to work well, since I have little to complain about.
I neither recommend nor discourage Centro visits. It is what it is, and it is not or everybody. I can offer a compromise. The girls around nearby Raudal are generally more attractive. There is a catch, Raudal can be dodgier than Veracruz. It is not a place where you want to put a foot wrong.
In all honesty I miss casas and I miss the girls who don't want to venture out during the quarantine. I am happy to say however that I do not miss sex the way I would if I were not here.
You articulated it quite well. That's probably the most honest description of El Centro I've seen.
I love the sleaze and dirt of El Centro, but I'm not into the SW scene. I'll make a few laps, maybe have a beer, then sit in Plaza Botero for awhile.
How else would I say it. I'm simply not into Asia chicks, I do find them physically attractive, it is just because most of the Asian girls can't dance well, they don't do a lot of drugs, and most of them can't hold their liquid; in my book, those characteristics are kiss of death. Furthermore, in Bangkok all clubs close at 2 am. In Medellin you can always find places full of working girls open everyday until 6-8 am in the morning, and most of the girls in Medellin love to drink excessively and partake in whatever substance I can offer them.I assume you haven't been to Jakarta. They are Asian and they party and do more drugs than any girls I've experienced.
I assume you haven't been to Jakarta. They are Asian and they party and do more drugs than any girls I've experienced.Added to my list of places to visit. Thanks!
Bro, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you? I guess that you cannot be over 20. "Sex is Sex" Who are we kidding. If I want free sex with a decent looking girl in her late 20's or early 30's, I will stay in the states. I remember when I was a horny teenager, I had the same mentality that "sex is sex," and my dick is satisfied as long as there is pussy to put it in. My standard has evolved as I aged, I'm now in my 30's, and I can tell you without a doubt that there is a vast spectrum of sex. The "sex is sex" argument is as ridiculous as the argument that "a taco is a taco, and there is no difference between the shit they sell in Taco Bell and the street food in Mexico City. " (If you have been to Mexico City, then my point is irrefutable).
I have been to El Centro multiple times; I never sessioned there; I'm still waiting for that Rihanna-look-alike-18-year-old-Centro-pregnant-chick who will treat me like I'm the last man she will ever fuck. I enjoy the rawness of El Centro, I've brought rounds and made friends using my google translator (for the newcomers, don't try this if you are not an experienced traveler). I go to Lleras every weekend, and on weekdays, I hang out in the local streets of Envigado. My FB girls took me deep inside of their neighbors (Bello and Belen) to buy Tussi and ecstasy. I can confidently say that I know a little bit about Medellin.I don't know how many times I have posted that everybody rolls different on this board.
Lots of your thoughts, and ideas, are based on your experience and personal tastes.
I have found your posts quite entertaining, and have egged you on at times, such as upping your game on the threesomes and foursomes.
However, your way of mongering, or your assumption that perhaps your way of mongering is superior or better than others is just simply wrong.
LoveItHere69
03-25-20, 22:09
First trip to Colombia a year ago for 30 days I found these horrible creatures lurking at the bottom of the cesspool. But I was so desperate and did not know any Spanish so I had to take whatever I could get.
Mr Enternational
03-25-20, 22:14
How else would I say it. I'm simply not into Asia chicks, I do find them physically attractive, it is just because most of the Asian girls can't dance well, they don't do a lot of drugs, and most of them can't hold their liquid; in my book, those characteristics are kiss of death. Furthermore, in Bangkok all clubs close at 2 am.No earthly idea how these kind of misconceptions get started. Met a free Thai chick on Tinder the other day. She told me her life story. She used to be hooked on heroin and ice. And she also did 2 years out of the 14 she was sentenced to in a Malaysian prison for smuggling 1/2 kg of dope in her pussy. I was scared to fuck her at first but she insisted on having some dick.
We have clubs in Pattaya that don't even get started until 3:30am. You can see it is past 6am and mfs are still coming through the door. Everyone that comes here I promise them that they will not sleep the first 24 hours and they will need sunglasses when they leave the club. Plus the chicks will dance AND drink you under the table. They invite you to the table to drink out of the bottles of liquor that they bought. You must have landed in the wrong Thailand.
No earthly idea how these kind of misconceptions get started. Met a free Thai chick on Tinder the other day. She told me her life story. She used to be hooked on heroin and ice. And she also did 2 years out of the 14 she was sentenced to in a Malaysian prison for smuggling 1/2 kg of dope in her pussy. I was scared to fuck her at first but she insisted on having some dick.
We have clubs in Pattaya that don't even get started until 3:30am. You can see it is past 6am and mfs are still coming through the door. Everyone that comes here I promise them that they will not sleep the first 24 hours and they will need sunglasses when they leave the club. Plus the chicks will dance AND drink you under the table. They invite you to the table to drink out of the bottles of liquor that they bought. You must have landed in the wrong Thailand.I guess I should have visited Pattaya instead of Bangkok, and get involved with some Asian drug smugglers. The last time a girl drinked me under the table was in Beijing, a Russian girl. After a few trips to Bangkok, I have lost all interest in Thailand. I remember looking for parties and drugs on the street of Bangkok at 2 am, not a fun time. Another major issue I have with Thailand is that the streets are full of ladyboys. Rule number one in Bangkok, if a girl is good looking, 80% of the chance she is a ladyboy. I have nothing against ladyboys, I just don't want to get sexually involved with them; some of them will not tell you anything until they are in your room. Anyway, lots of people have been telling that I should give Thailand a few more try, but I'm totally satisfied with Medellin at the moment.
We are peas in a pod. Try as I might to stay with facebook and casa girls, I always wind up in Centro. I've thought about it a lot the past couple of weeks. One of the things that keeps me a Centro rat is the the scene is real. The girls rarely engage in what I call hooker theater, false affection and sound effects. Today I did not make it to Centro, I was wifed up with my Manrique honey most of the afternoon. Tonight I will treat myself to a delivery meal from one of my favorite Provenza restaurants oci. Mde I am doing my part to help them get through the crisis.
I've been a "street rat" in Centro for over 20 years now, for all the reasons you stated above, LOL.
Though I've delved into the FB scene, the street always calls my name.
PolloNegro
03-26-20, 00:33
Bro, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you? I guess that you cannot be over 20. You would be very wrong, I actually have 6 kids older than 20 and I'm not 50 and one of my daughters is 30.
I have been to El Centro multiple times; I never sessioned there; I'm still waiting for that Rihanna-look-alike-18-year-old-Centro-pregnant-chick who will treat me like I'm the last man she will ever fuck Too late I have already banged her to smitherines. LOL.
The girls in Centro command my respect; however, I won't fuck them, because I had much rather fuck a girl in a more beautiful environment, get a ton of extra service, take her out to party all night and bring her back to fuck a few more times. I also enjoy a girl who is more patient with my slow google translate response rate Clearly you could not have been reading my post. 2 beautiful 18 year olds, try 3 blood related sisters, same mother same father. I have banged all 3 of them and I still do to this day. Not to mention the combination of mother and daughters I have banged.
We are in the land where money rules and everything goes out of the window. You just require more dinero to get the same experience that I receive at a fraction of the price. If you ever meet me, you'll be surprised at how young I look, how young I am, how well respected I am in centro and how well I handle myself when I am in Centro. I don't even have to ask for a date in Centro I show up and most of them are begging me for dates, simply because I am extra nice and well known in parque Botero! Pollo Negro is out!
😂. Brazil hopefully this fall!128077;.
I agree with you. Head varies from woman to woman no matter the country. But in the fucking department it is Brazil hands down. You can choose any chick at random, pro or non-pro, and she will fuck you into oblivion. It is like they are all trained in some fucking academy or something. Do not go down there and think you are going to outfuck them, because they will send you home crying.
SethMacfarlane
03-26-20, 02:11
No earthly idea how these kind of misconceptions get started. Met a free Thai chick on Tinder the other day. She told me her life story. She used to be hooked on heroin and ice. And she also did 2 years out of the 14 she was sentenced to in a Malaysian prison for smuggling 1/2 kg of dope in her pussy. I was scared to fuck her at first but she insisted on having some dick.
We have clubs in Pattaya that don't even get started until 3:30am. You can see it is past 6am and mfs are still coming through the door. Everyone that comes here I promise them that they will not sleep the first 24 hours and they will need sunglasses when they leave the club. Plus the chicks will dance AND drink you under the table. They invite you to the table to drink out of the bottles of liquor that they bought. You must have landed in the wrong Thailand.Damn Mr. E. You going to be in pattaya at the end of the year? I'd love a tour if you don't mind, I'll buy the booze and working girls for a night😵.
We are peas in a pod. Try as I might to stay with facebook and casa girls, I always wind up in Centro. I've thought about it a lot the past couple of weeks. One of the things that keeps me a Centro rat is the the scene is real. The girls rarely engage in what I call hooker theater, false affection and sound effects. Today I did not make it to Centro, I was wifed up with my Manrique honey most of the afternoon. Tonight I will treat myself to a delivery meal from one of my favorite Provenza restaurants oci. Mde I am doing my part to help them get through the crisis.Hooker theatrics, improvised moaning, the panting, the chant's of I'm coming baby, and on, and on, and on. How about a girl that is just hanging on for her life as your banging her in doggy. She has has her hands gripped on the sheets as your pounding her and going crazy like she is going over a waterfall in a barrel. Yes, the scene in El Centro can be surreal compared to the actresses from the other venues. It' addictive for me given the experiences I have had there.
Elvis 2008
03-26-20, 03:48
Head varies from woman to woman no matter the country. But in the fucking department it is Brazil hands down. You can choose any chick at random, pro or non-pro, and she will fuck you into oblivion. It is like they are all trained in some fucking academy or something. Do not go down there and think you are going to outfuck them, because they will send you home crying.You know I have had blow jobs that have made me gasp in many countries but I cannot remember a place like Brazil where EVERYONE of them had like a master's degree in giving head, and I was singing with pleasure. My first night in Sao Paulo wore me out. I have never been to a country except Brazil where at the end of the trip I said, "Damn, I am tired of sex."
😂. Brazil hopefully this fall!128077;.Brazil is my desired destination next. Also Cali Colombia if it's TRUE about bootylicious dark women there. You don't see nice bootylicious bodies in abundance in medellin. The question with Brazil. Which city do I choose Sao Paulo or rio de Janeiro?
I guess I should have visited Pattaya instead of Bangkok, and get involved with some Asian drug smugglers. The last time a girl drinked me under the table was in Beijing, a Russian girl. After a few trips to Bangkok, I have lost all interest in Thailand. I remember looking for parties and drugs on the street of Bangkok at 2 am, not a fun time. Another major issue I have with Thailand is that the streets are full of ladyboys. Rule number one in Bangkok, if a girl is good looking, 80% of the chance she is a lady-boy. I have nothing against ladyboys, I just don't want to get sexually involved with them; some of them will not tell you anything until they are in your room. Anyway, lots of people have been telling that I should give Thailand a few more try, but I'm totally satisfied with Medellin at the moment.I've always had a great time in both Pattaya and Bangkok. If it wasn't so far, and the weather so unbearable at times, I would go there more often. I've had great luck pulling women off of Beach Road in Pattaya and around Nana Plaza.
Your lady-boy issue (s) really shouldn't be an issue. Yes they have it down to a science in Thailand for sure. But a very simple interchange if you have any doubts, such as just asking if they are a lady-boy will suffice. They know if they lie they won't be paid in the room, so your concerns that 80% of the good looking girls being a lady-boy should not be of concern. However, there might be a few exceptions in that some of the transformations to lady-boys make it almost impossible to tell.
Perhaps Mr. E can chime in on this having lots of experience in Thailand, and I'm assuming not a lady-boy lover.
LOL. And that means you have to fuck one of them? Parks are full of benches but that does not mean I have to go sit on one of them. I look at it like a mf in a costume, not like a vampire that is going to bite me and turn me into one of them. You go to Disneyworld and you see dudes dressed up like Goofy and Donald Duck and shit. You go over to wherever and you see dudes dressed up as ladies. Same thing to me. Trick or treat mf.
Besides, it is the same in Colombia. Everybody knows not to go to that one place where that church is or that street down from Yakuza because those are the transvestites. It is the same thing. They hang in particular places. They are not just next to normal women tricking you into choosing them. They are in their own little pockets.One major difference is that in Medellin I can easily find girls hotter than the ladyboys. But in Thailand, the absolutely hottest looking person is always a ladyboy.
😂. Brazil hopefully this fall!128077;.If you have enjoyed Medellin so far, then you will not be disappointed with Brazil.
I guess I should have visited Pattaya instead of Bangkok, and get involved with some Asian drug smugglers. The last time a girl drinked me under the table was in Beijing, a Russian girl. After a few trips to Bangkok, I have lost all interest in Thailand. I remember looking for parties and drugs on the street of Bangkok at 2 am, not a fun time. I think Thailand will not be as good for what you like. Unlike in Medellin, you will have a lot more competitions.
Another major issue I have with Thailand is that the streets are full of ladyboys. Rule number one in Bangkok, if a girl is good looking, 80% of the chance she is a ladyboy. I have nothing against ladyboys, I just don't want to get sexually involved with them; some of them will not tell you anything until they are in your room.
You don't have to wait until you are in the room. You can ask the hotel front desk to check the ID. You should be able to tell the difference after a while. Most don't really look better than real female unless you are into them.
First trip to Colombia a year ago for 30 days I found these horrible creatures lurking at the bottom of the cesspool. But I was so desperate and did not know any Spanish so I had to take whatever I could get.Nice pictures. Did you notice the chick is pregnant?
Brazil is my desired destination next. Also Cali Colombia if it's TRUE about bootylicious dark women there. You don't see nice bootylicious bodies in abundance in medellin. The question with Brazil. Which city do I choose Sao Paulo or rio de Janeiro?I've been to both cities. Both are great. Rio is more touristy with easily accessible beach where you'll see more fine g-stringed booty than anywhere else on earth. Both have working girls who will put you to shame. I thought I was a stud until I went to Brazil, they match you blow for blow in the sack and they eventually win because they have no balls to hurt them afterwards from all the pounding.
I am fortunate to have visited both countries. Both are great in different ways and I would not rate one as better than the other. Each have their advantages. Colombia is overall cheaper for our hobby and for me Thailand is easier for banging non-pros. Just one of the advantages of both.
I agree 100%.
If you have enjoyed Medellin so far, then you will not be disappointed with Brazil.
Sleazball02
03-26-20, 13:39
Yo what's up guys, I'm in Medellin rn about to go to el Centro and I was wondering what if I bang a girl and not pay just kick her out afterwards or just leave. What would happen? Well I real don't care what happens LOL. Yeah I'm that big of a scumbag LOL sue me.
We are peas in a pod. Try as I might to stay with facebook and casa girls, I always wind up in Centro. I've thought about it a lot the past couple of weeks. One of the things that keeps me a Centro rat is the the scene is real. The girls rarely engage in what I call hooker theater, false affection and sound effects. Today I did not make it to Centro, I was wifed up with my Manrique honey most of the afternoon. Tonight I will treat myself to a delivery meal from one of my favorite Provenza restaurants oci. Mde I am doing my part to help them get through the crisis.You said it brotha!
We roll the same, as well as others on the board such as Surfer and Pollo and others.
"Hooker Theater", that's funny, and the truth, LOL.
Big turn off.
On a side note, and it's been said many times, and recently reiterated by JjB; there is no best way to monger.
Guys like you and I and Pollo, we love the street.
Guys like SJobs, they enjoy more the 18 year old FB girls, the party, drugs, Gustos.
That's great too!
And it sounds like he's good at it.
We all gravitate and return to what makes us happy.
No need to try and convince one another that 'our way' is better, cause it's not, it's just our way.
For me, I enjoy walking about Centro, watching the crowd, hitting the stores, restaurants, clubs, and I usually spot something, approach, offer a drink or whatever, BS a little and conquer, LOL.
I'm patient, I speak good spanish, I enjoy the hunt.
So that's my scene.
Like I said in an earlier post, I've delved into the FB scene and I have struck some gold there as well.
I weed out quickly the hard core, transaction girls that get right to the point.
That's not what I'm looking for.
I chat with them, not at all about sex at first, I get to know them, and they usually respond well, and just end up liking me.
Lots of girls of course dump me cause they just want boom boom, sex for money, and that's cool, or I weed them out in the process as well.
I've ended up making these "amigas" that just want to hang out, have fun, relax, and they want to sex you to death, LOL.
I "help" them with whatever I feel like, and I do take care of them cause they've made it through my weeding out process and treat me right.
Of course this method isn't for everyone.
It takes more patience, more BS ability, definitely spanish jiving ability, and you do lose some hot ones cause they know they're hot, they're in the game, and want the pesos quick.
I'm not better or worse than anyone else or my game is not better than anyone else's game. It's just how I like to play the scene.
And I play it the same in Brazil as well, and I have for years, just not w Facebook there, all in person.
You said it brotha!
We roll the same, as well as others on the board such as Surfer and Pollo and others.
"Hooker Theater", that's funny, and the truth, LOL.
Big turn off.
On a side note, and it's been said many times, and recently reiterated by JjB; there is no best way to monger.
Guys like you and I and Pollo, we love the street.
Guys like SJobs, they enjoy more the 18 year old FB girls, the party, drugs, Gustos.
That's great too!
And it sounds like he's good at it.
We all gravitate and return to what makes us happy.
No need to try and convince one another that 'our way' is better, cause it's not, it's just our way.
For me, I enjoy walking about Centro, watching the crowd, hitting the stores, restaurants, clubs, and I usually spot something, approach, offer a drink or whatever, BS a little and conquer, LOL..That about covers it.
I enjoy walking about El Centro, just enjoying the vitality, the rawness, without the filters of Poblado. I can easily spend half the day, just cruising all over. Then I meet a Facebook girl.
Your Facebook communication, that's about how I handle it. I don't talk about sex. I flirt, make a joke or two and wait for those magic words, "quiero conocerte."
First Facebook contact, I wasn't particularly interested in her, I was just building a list, she contacted me, seconds after I added her. I wasn't trying to setup with her, although decided to meet her. I said something like "maybe we can meet and have some lunch. " She replied with "you have to use a condom for everything. " Confused me, but she knew the routine better than I did. When some gringo adds you on Facebook, it's about sex.
I never did session with her, but her daughter is a regular. Just to be clear, the mother is late 30's and daughter is now 23. Both are amigas and I've spent a lot of time around the entire family.
The guys who are successful, figure out what game works for them.
TherminMermin
03-26-20, 19:32
Brazil is my desired destination next. Also Cali Colombia if it's TRUE about bootylicious dark women there. You don't see nice bootylicious bodies in abundance in medellin. The question with Brazil. Which city do I choose Sao Paulo or rio de Janeiro?The Medellin I went to was chock full of big bootylicious dark skinned and light skinned girls. Damn I wish I can share photos in here. A few of the girls were non-pro off tinder but most were strippers. Brazil is great you'll love it if you're an assman. Rio is a tad more expensive but there are more better looking women. Both places are heaven on earth though.
So on Tuesday I go to the local surf shop and walk out with a thermal 4/3 wet-suit, a hoodie, booties, gloves, and a bar of wax. My thinking was I was going to walk down to the beach every day and get wet. I was looking forward to paddling out, sitting in the line-up, waiting for some outside sets, charging it, do some riding, and perhaps get wiped out a few times.
Yep, this was going to be my replacement for not being able to go to El Centro everyday being stuck here in the USA.
The days of trolling around ground zero looking for a young lassie to ride, taking her to the room, and either be ridden, or rode, or both, with the "wipe out" being when I come has ended.
On Wednesday they shut the beaches down, and the lifeguards are out policing the beach keeping people off the sand and the Surfer's out of the water.
I'm totally hosed now not being able to ride anything! I hope this all ends soon.
Drunkmunky
03-26-20, 21:08
I finished my last day with a girl on SA.
I had an early morning flight and I didn't want to deal with any bullshit like dinner or dancing. I just wanted a lay just to make it so that I had a girl every night I was in Medellin.
Fake Breasts, not eager to please. No deep french kissing, blowjob with condom only. 200 k for 2 hours. She wanted 400 k to get into the hot tub. Hell no. Get the hell out of here.
Her name is Antonia2405.
Yo what's up guys, I'm in Medellin rn about to go to el Centro and I was wondering what if I bang a girl and not pay just kick her out afterwards or just leave. What would happen? Well I real don't care what happens LOL. Yeah I'm that big of a scumbag LOL sue me.Nothing will happen, the chica will most likely fall in love with you because of your unconventional approach. You should totally try it. I recommend bring a knife or a gun and let the chica hold on to it while you negotiate the final payment arrangement. It will work like a charm, get ready to be loved by a ton of hot El centro chicas.
Elvis 2008
03-26-20, 22:52
The question with Brazil. Which city do I choose Sao Paulo or rio de Janeiro?SP has better women IMO, but it is a shit hole. Rio is a nice place and has a helluva lot more to see and do tourist wise. So if it is just sucking and fucking, I would do SP. Otherwise, I would look at Rio. When it comes to women that are bonafide 10's, I think SP cannot be beat. I would be interested to see if anyone would challenge that. The city with the most 10's in the world is Sao Paulo.
I am with you. I hope it all ends soon. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for June or maybe even May. It's pretty optimistic I know.
So on Tuesday I go to the local surf shop and walk out with a thermal 4/3 wet-suit, a hoodie, booties, gloves, and a bar of wax. My thinking was I was going to walk down to the beach every day and get wet. I was looking forward to paddling out, sitting in the line-up, waiting for some outside sets, charging it, do some riding, and perhaps get wiped out a few times.
Yep, this was going to be my replacement for not being able to go to El Centro everyday being stuck here in the USA.
The days of trolling around ground zero looking for a young lassie to ride, taking her to the room, and either be ridden, or rode, or both, with the "wipe out" being when I come has ended.
On Wednesday they shut the beaches down, and the lifeguards are out policing the beach keeping people off the sand and the Surfer's out of the water.
I'm totally hosed now not being able to ride anything! I hope this all ends soon.
Nothing will happen, the chica will most likely fall in love with you because of your unconventional approach. You should totally try it. I recommend bring a knife or a gun and let the chica hold on to it while you negotiate the final payment arrangement. It will work like a charm, get ready to be loved by a ton of hot El centro chicas.I met her before the quarantine. She had an amazing ass. Tight body. I had just finished a session at new live. She tried to get me to session at jardin but couldn't do it so I got her number. Few text little response. Quarantine she hits me up. Offer 50 mil to come to my place. She accepts without hesitation. I call myself a dumbass. Could have said 30 mil. Anyways threw in 20 mil for taxi. She got out taxi at my apartment in laureles and bill was 17 mil. Paid it. The deal was 50 mil, 3 hours, 2 leche, sex totally condom. She looked a little unpolished but amazing body. Breast silicon and tummy tuck stomach but really fit her. I expected problems though she promised not to. I had my routine set fruits. Wine, and cookies. I am a cheaply Charlie. She love the music. Ask to take a shower, went up stairs. Gave her a massage and surprisingly she gave me a massage. Slip on the condom and very nice sexy head job. Fuck 3 different positions and still no problems. She even alerted me we was fuvking for an hour like look you got 2 hrs left. Shortly after she stroke me off really god and took a shower. When she got out the shower ask me if it was okay to go. I had no more nut in me so I said no problem. I put the 50 mil on the table and she said papi what about taxi. I said mami I paid 17 mil for taxi, contract says 20 milk at the text. Then she said ok give me 5 mil. I was like sweet. Totally obedient and respectful. Real african ass on her. I think I will repeat. So guys am I an official centro rat or didn't qualify cause I fucked her laureles.
Mojo Bandit
03-26-20, 23:01
One major difference is that in Medellin I can easily find girls hotter than the ladyboys. But in Thailand, the absolutely hottest looking person is always a ladyboy.I have to disagree with you there. I had a good guide which was a guy I rented an apartment from in Patong Beach down in Phuket. He happened to also be in Bangkok to see his doctor when I flew back up there for a few days. He warned me off the areas where the kathoeys (ladyboys) , I still passed them when making rounds in Nana Plaza and their bone structure and that stange pitch in their voice that is a dead give away. I did not see any that fooled me (I do not doubt that they exist). In thailand for me it is hard to find the girl who has the right body that I like. Not too skinny. But I found a few. I found one in Nana plaza that could have easily passed for a chica. About 20 yrs old, here eyes did not look that asian meaning rounder than most but still exotic looking, light brown skin, and she had a natural 36 26 36 with pert tits. She was the exception there.
You are a probationary Centro rat. I need to see your next report before you get your official whiskers.
I met her before the quarantine. She had an amazing ass. Tight body. I had just finished a session at new live. She tried to get me to session at jardin but couldn't do it so I got her number. Few text little response. Quarantine she hits me up. Offer 50 mil to come to my place. She accepts without hesitation. I call myself a dumbass. Could have said 30 mil. Anyways threw in 20 mil for taxi. She got out taxi at my apartment in laureles and bill was 17 mil. Paid it. The deal was 50 mil, 3 hours, 2 leche, sex totally condom. She looked a little unpolished but amazing body. Breast silicon and tummy tuck stomach but really fit her. I expected problems though she promised not to. I had my routine set fruits. Wine, and cookies. I am a cheaply Charlie. She love the music. Ask to take a shower, went up stairs. Gave her a massage and surprisingly she gave me a massage. Slip on the condom and very nice sexy head job. Fuck 3 different positions and still no problems. She even alerted me we was fuvking for an hour like look you got 2 hrs left. Shortly after she stroke me off really god and took a shower. When she got out the shower ask me if it was okay to go. I had no more nut in me so I said no problem. I put the 50 mil on the table and she said papi what about taxi. I said mami I paid 17 mil for taxi, contract says 20 milk at the text. Then she said ok give me 5 mil. I was like sweet. Totally obedient and respectful. Real african ass on her. I think I will repeat. So guys am I an official centro rat or didn't qualify cause I fucked her laureles.
SP has better women IMO, but it is a shit hole. Rio is a nice place and has a helluva lot more to see and do tourist wise. So if it is just sucking and fucking, I would do SP. Otherwise, I would look at Rio. When it comes to women that are bonafide 10's, I think SP cannot be beat. I would be interested to see if anyone would challenge that. The city with the most 10's in the world is Sao Paulo.It seems like sao Paulo is set up like medellin from my brief research. Meaning airbnb. City like. Is their plenty girl friendly airbnb.
SP has better women IMO, but it is a shit hole. Rio is a nice place and has a helluva lot more to see and do tourist wise. So if it is just sucking and fucking, I would do SP. Otherwise, I would look at Rio. When it comes to women that are bonafide 10's, I think SP cannot be beat. I would be interested to see if anyone would challenge that. The city with the most 10's in the world is Sao Paulo.
The Medellin I went to was chock full of big bootylicious dark skinned and light skinned girls. Damn I wish I can share photos in here. A few of the girls were non-pro off tinder but most were strippers. Brazil is great you'll love it if you're an assman. Rio is a tad more expensive but there are more better looking women. Both places are heaven on earth though.I got a couple from tinder, 1 centro, 2 lleras park. But they ain't walking around like Dominican republic style and I haven't been to Brazil so can't include them. Somebody tell me about Cali Colombia. Are the booty girls there or Cartagena.
Mojo Bandit
03-26-20, 23:12
Yo what's up guys, I'm in Medellin rn about to go to el Centro and I was wondering what if I bang a girl and not pay just kick her out afterwards or just leave. What would happen? Well I real don't care what happens LOL. Yeah I'm that big of a scumbag LOL sue me.You'll be sure and report back on your adventures right?
Maybe it is safer to be a Centro rat:
https://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/comuna-con-mas-casos-positivos-de-coronavirus-covid-19-en-medellin-JM12698274
Thanks for encouragement, bro. Medellin is my favorite so far. For me, it is above Eastern Europe and SE Asia, even though Eastern Europe beats Colombia slightly at absolute beauty IMHO.
And Medellin board is the most helpful in my experience. I used the forum in the past, but nothing was better than this board so far! It has many great members and lots of priceless advice.
If you have enjoyed Medellin so far, then you will not be disappointed with Brazil.
Tonight I will treat myself to a delivery meal from one of my favorite Provenza restaurants oci. Mde I am doing my part to help them get through the crisis.Oci and Carmen are my favorite restaurants in Medellin. Oci has superb food, but their cocktails can use some improvement. The restaurant next to oci, el botanico has much better cocktails, my favorite is a whiskey drink called el collector. Thanks for supporting oci!
Sorry about your experience at the beach, but it is necessary. It was necessary a month ago or even longer. And I'm sure you understand that.
Attached are some sad stats I just saw. USA is officially number 1 by the total number of coronavirus cases. Thanks Trump 🤬.
So on Tuesday I go to the local surf shop and walk out with a thermal 4/3 wet-suit, a hoodie, booties, gloves, and a bar of wax. My thinking was I was going to walk down to the beach every day and get wet. I was looking forward to paddling out, sitting in the line-up, waiting for some outside sets, charging it, do some riding, and perhaps get wiped out a few times.
Yep, this was going to be my replacement for not being able to go to El Centro everyday being stuck here in the USA.
The days of trolling around ground zero looking for a young lassie to ride, taking her to the room, and either be ridden, or rode, or both, with the "wipe out" being when I come has ended.
On Wednesday they shut the beaches down, and the lifeguards are out policing the beach keeping people off the sand and the Surfer's out of the water.
I'm totally hosed now not being able to ride anything! I hope this all ends soon.
He warned me off the areas where the kathoeys (ladyboys) , I still passed them when making rounds in Nana Plaza and their bone structure and that stange pitch in their voice that is a dead give away. I did not see any that fooled me (I do not doubt that they exist).I have been less fortunate. In my first day in Bangkok I got fooled and brought two ladyboys back to my Airbnb. My door-man warned me immediately after he saw them. When I ask them to leave, they wanted money, we got into an altercation. Their pimp daddy showed up, I ended up paying 20 dollars to each of them. The money is obviously not the issue, it ruined my mood. From that day on, the first thing I ask when talking to a "girl" in Bangkok is whether she is a boy or a girl. Most of them will tell me the truth, but some won't.
In thailand for me it is hard to find the girl who has the right body that I like. Not too skinny. But I found a few. I found one in Nana plaza that could have easily passed for a chica. About 20 yrs old, here eyes did not look that asian meaning rounder than most but still exotic looking, light brown skin, and she had a natural 36 26 36 with pert tits. She was the exception there.This is my problem. I'm constantly looking for Asian girls who look like Brazilian or Colombian in Thailand. It makes more sense for me to park my ass in Medellin or Rio. I do miss the level of activities in the Na Na plaza on a good Friday night, too bad everything closes at 2 am over there.
Charm City Dave
03-26-20, 23:51
Yo what's up guys, I'm in Medellin rn about to go to el Centro and I was wondering what if I bang a girl and not pay just kick her out afterwards or just leave. What would happen? Well I real don't care what happens LOL. Yeah I'm that big of a scumbag LOL sue me.Yes you are a scumbag and a thief. One who steals from those who can least afford it. No one is going to sue you, that wouldn't be justice.
Next time you walk down the street, better put that thieving scumbag head on a swivel. Most of these girls have friends who, are in gangs. Even if she doesn't, better hope you see her before she sees you as you go out to find another poor woman to steal from. I wouldn't blame her (or perhaps one of her friends) for sticking a knife in your back. Even better perhaps, you will next try it on one of her friends who will cut off your.....
Yo what's up guys, I'm in Medellin rn about to go to el Centro and I was wondering what if I bang a girl and not pay just kick her out afterwards or just leave. What would happen? Well I real don't care what happens LOL. Yeah I'm that big of a scumbag LOL sue me.Ask the Secret Service what happens bro!
Hopefully you will get the crap beaten out of you. If I knew you did that ID make sure the local boys pay you a visit so that you would never forget Colombia.
Yo what's up guys, I'm in Medellin rn about to go to el Centro and I was wondering what if I bang a girl and not pay just kick her out afterwards or just leave. What would happen? Well I real don't care what happens LOL. Yeah I'm that big of a scumbag LOL sue me..
YippieKayay
03-27-20, 00:02
Don't respond to Sleazball02 it's very obvious he's trolling.
Brazil is my desired destination next. Also Cali Colombia if it's TRUE about bootylicious dark women there. You don't see nice bootylicious bodies in abundance in medellin. The question with Brazil. Which city do I choose Sao Paulo or rio de Janeiro?Both. They're like a 30-minute $50 flight apart. Fly into Sao Paulo and fly out of Rio.
It seems like sao Paulo is set up like medellin from my brief research. Meaning airbnb. City like. Is their plenty girl friendly airbnb.Medellin is a village compared to Sao Paulo. I disagree with Elvis saying SP is a shithole. It's actually a great city with excellent restaurants, parks, museums, and more hot-looking women that any place in the World. However, it can be an absolute pain in the ass because of it's sheer size. Imagine New York X 2. That's why I say go to Sao Paulo first. When you get tired of the big city grind, take a 30 min flight to Rio and hang out on the beach (and hit the Termas of course!
Medellin is a village compared to Sao Paulo. I disagree with Elvis saying SP is a shithole. It's actually a great city with excellent restaurants, parks, museums, and more hot-looking women that any place in the World. However, it can be an absolute pain in the ass because of it's sheer size. Imagine New York X 2. That's why I say go to Sao Paulo first. When you get tired of the big city grind, take a 30 min flight to Rio and hang out on the beach (and hit the Termas of course!Agree with you 100% on this. In fact, the last time I was there, it was Rio and Copa that felt like a shit hole. Cold, wet, rainy with broken sidewalks all over the place and stinking of the sewer. All of a sudden, Sampa seemed the better and Rio the lesser. Will I continue to feel this way? I don't know. Also, although I won't necessarily disagree with him about where the hottest women can be found, it would be easy for somebody else to take issue with Elvis because that's all a matter of personal taste. Plenty of guys go on and on about Thailand, but I point out that Thailand can only be the best if you like Asian women the best. I don't, so Thailand will never, ever be better than Brazil (or Germany) for me. Not ever!
Thanks for encouragement, bro. Medellin is my favorite so far. For me, it is above Eastern Europe and SE Asia, even though Eastern Europe beats Colombia slightly at absolute beauty.Agreed. The hottest girls I have ever fucked are Brazilian and Romanian. They are tied, it's like picking between an 18 year old candice swanepoel and an 18 year old gisele bundchen. Medellin's paisa is slightly below those two places, in my opinion. If you are going to rio, I would recommend stay in ipanema (apply the same caution when selecting your Airbnb) but avoid centaurus (girls are super hot in there, but I don't think they worth the 300 dollar per hour price tag). Solarium is my favorite place, 4 x 4 in downtown is super fun too. Mab is a good place to grab a late night dinner and play the pickup game. Enjoy Brazil!
Eszpresszo
03-27-20, 02:39
Also Cali Colombia if it's TRUE about bootylicious dark women there. It's not true. That's just more nonsense that has gotten passed along, like "Cali is drab" (it's not). There just happen to be more black people in Cali than the other larger cities. Truth is, there are few black people in Colombia (maybe 5-7%) I spent over a week in Cali there checking out various brothels and only saw ONE black girl in a casa (and I did her). I actually saw more black girls in the casas in Bogota, though you hardly saw any black people at all, there. They are so rare in Bogota that they catch you attention when you do see them. Saw some nice looking black girls in some of the strip clubs of Bogota, and some working the street in Santa Fe. But they are still a small minority among working girls.
If you like black girls that much, try Africa or Detroit. They have loads of them.
Eszpresszo
03-27-20, 03:07
SP has better women IMO, but it is a shit hole. Anyone who says Sao Paulo is a shithole has never been there. I actually have, so I actually know what I'm talking about. Stop misinforming people.
It's not true. That's just more nonsense that has gotten passed along, like "Cali is drab" (it's not). There just happen to be more black people in Cali than the other larger cities. Truth is, there are few black people in Colombia (maybe 5-7%) I spent over a week in Cali there checking out various brothels and only saw ONE black girl in a casa (and I did her). I actually saw more black girls in the casas in Bogota, though you hardly saw any black people at all, there. They are so rare in Bogota that they catch you attention when you do see them. Saw some nice looking black girls in some of the strip clubs of Bogota, and some working the street in Santa Fe. But they are still a small minority among working girls.
If you like black girls that much, try Africa or Detroit. They have loads of them.Kenya, uganda, and south africa is on my list of places in Uganda. It's funny you mentioned Detroit. It was one of the cities in united states found the easiest to acquire women. 80's was some good time there.
It's not true. That's just more nonsense that has gotten passed along, like "Cali is drab" (it's not). There just happen to be more black people in Cali than the other larger cities. Truth is, there are few black people in Colombia (maybe 5-7%) I spent over a week in Cali there checking out various brothels and only saw ONE black girl in a casa (and I did her). I actually saw more black girls in the casas in Bogota, though you hardly saw any black people at all, there. They are so rare in Bogota that they catch you attention when you do see them. Saw some nice looking black girls in some of the strip clubs of Bogota, and some working the street in Santa Fe. But they are still a small minority among working girls.
If you like black girls that much, try Africa or Detroit. They have loads of them.Actually, you can find quite a population of black Colombians in the north along the coast. "Costenas" if you will. I have visited Cartagena for example and found many there. That said, I did not encounter any who were working girls. Not saying there aren't any. Just didn't see any during my trip to Cartagena. The black Colombian population is small, but it can be found in some concentrated pockets. There is another very poor area in the west, but I can't recall the name of it at the moment. I think it might be Buenaventura, which is not too far from Cali. I've always much preferred the girls from Bogota, Medellin, and Pereira myself.
Anyone who says Sao Paulo is a shithole has never been there. I actually have, so I actually know what I'm talking about. Stop misinforming people.I have been there and I agree. They have many nice areas, but also some not so nice areas.
Kenya, uganda, and south africa is on my list of places in Uganda. It's funny you mentioned Detroit. It was one of the cities in united states found the easiest to acquire women. 80's was some good time there.Go to Cali. Columbia. They have enough morenas, and negras. Use tinder, badoo or other sites. Better yet, approach them on the street. I was in Bogota last September for dental work and met a pretty black woman working at Hooters. Bogota compared to Cali. And Medillin is the worse place to go to meet afro-columbians but they are there. Columbia is second to Brazil in South America for the largest population with african ancestry. Enjoy yourself. It's your trip.
Elvis 2008
03-27-20, 05:45
Anyone who says Sao Paulo is a shithole has never been there. I actually have, so I actually know what I'm talking about. Stop misinforming people.I said Sao Paulo has more 10's than any other city I have ever been to but let's not kid ourselves and say this is a nice place to visit. It is not. You can have extreme weather conditions like this after 52 days of rain. 52!!
Here: http://csshurtssuxxx.********.com/2010/03/sao-paulo-shithole-of-world.html.
And then there is the traffic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSsDPVRAzjg.
What other city in the world has resorted to using helicopters to get around the traffic?
From the State Department: So Paulo suffers from extreme traffic congestion. It is very common for criminals to take advantage of peak traffic hours to victimize motorists that are stationary in traffic. In this manner, criminals are able to target a string of vehicles, rather than a single victim. Inquire what the current peak transit times are and, to the extent possible, plan commutes around those peak times. Carjacking and victimization while commuting is particularly concerning, so much so that affluent Brazilians commonly choose to armor and heavily tint the windows of their personal vehicles. The city is inundated with motorcyclists, many of whom are responsible for snatching items from open vehicle windows.
It took us 3 hours to get from the Paulista region to the airport during rush hour. 3 hours!!
Yes, the restaurants and museums are nice if you can get to them.
Then you have the air pollution: https://www.treehugger.com/environmental-policy/traffic-pollution-kills-more-people-traffic-accidents-sao-paulo-brazil.html.
According to a study commissioned by the Institute of Health and Sustainability, 4,655 people died as a result of air pollution in Sao Paulo in 2011. In that same time period, traffic fatalities accounted for 1,556 deaths. The study also points out that pollution contributed to over twice as many deaths that year than both Aids (874) and breast cancer (1,277) combined.
So Paulo air pollution particulates average 20 to 25 micrograms per cubic meter; over twice what is deemed safe by the World Health Organization.
I think the crime is worse in Rio than SP, but it is still present. Here is a state department blurb on that.
Exercise extreme caution in So Paulo nightclubs, which have swindled patrons into purchasing bottles of alcohol without disclosing the actual price of the drinks, at times running up to US $1,000/ bottle. Security personnel have physically harassed patrons who refuse to pay, and have taken their credit cards. Do not accept drinks from strangers, and always watch your drink. Scopolamine or a similar drug may be added to your drink. Victims have awoken robbed of possessions and / or sexually assaulted after accepting open drinks.
For pussy, Sao Paulo is the greatest city I have EVER been to, more 10's than anywhere else. For everything else, it IS a shithole! You want to go there for a reason other than women, have at it. It is all yours.
Question about Gustos. Was this place open a couple years ago when I was there. I never heard of it or remember it mentioned on the board before I went. Also, is there any chance I can get a girl for 200 k. If you dress nice and are in good shape will they go for it.
............ Even better perhaps, you will next try it on one of her friends who will cut off your.....Remember Lorena Bobbitt was Latina. She cut her husband's off because he always had an orgasm during sex while he never allowed her to have one.
NormalAsianKid
03-27-20, 13:15
She looks hot AF in that pic. It's too bad the service doesn't sound great. Did you find that you liked SA in Medellin?
I finished my last day with a girl on SA.
I had an early morning flight and I didn't want to deal with any bullshit like dinner or dancing. I just wanted a lay just to make it so that I had a girl every night I was in Medellin.
Fake Breasts, not eager to please. No deep french kissing, blowjob with condom only. 200 k for 2 hours. She wanted 400 k to get into the hot tub. Hell no. Get the hell out of here.
Her name is Antonia2405.
Mr Enternational
03-27-20, 13:42
Question about Gustos. Also, is there any chance I can get a girl for 200 k. If you dress nice and are in good shape will they go for it.You do that and you will pay the most. If you want a bargain, then tell them you are broke and staying downtown in a 35K/day place. The more money that you look like you have, the more they are going to want. Big shots are expected to pay big shot money.
John Gault
03-27-20, 15:38
You do that and you will pay the most. If you want a bargain, then tell them you are broke and staying downtown in a 35K/day place. The more money that you look like you have, the more they are going to want. Big shots are expected to pay big shot money.That is good advice. Now if you are after total non pro's then you want to look sharp.
Thanks, advice noted down!
Agreed. The hottest girls I have ever fucked are Brazilian and Romanian. They are tied, it's like picking between an 18 year old candice swanepoel and an 18 year old gisele bundchen. Medellin's paisa is slightly below those two places, in my opinion. If you are going to rio, I would recommend stay in ipanema (apply the same caution when selecting your Airbnb) but avoid centaurus (girls are super hot in there, but I don't think they worth the 300 dollar per hour price tag). Solarium is my favorite place, 4 x 4 in downtown is super fun too. Mab is a good place to grab a late night dinner and play the pickup game. Enjoy Brazil!
You are a probationary Centro rat. I need to see your next report before you get your official whiskers.If he goes with a Sacalero, he becomes an official Centro rat with two whisker's to start out with.
He can gain additional whiskers by going with either a deaf, mute, or deaf / mute, or 1/2 whisker for each pregnant Chica he goes with.
I have so many whiskers you can't even see my face.
Question about Gustos. Was this place open a couple years ago when I was there. I never heard of it or remember it mentioned on the board before I went. Also, is there any chance I can get a girl for 200 k. If you dress nice and are in good shape will they go for it.Yes, it was open.
Generally speaking, the guys who frequent Gusto don't spend time on the board. They go to party, rather than go primarily for the sex. Sjobs reports are an excellent example. He goes and parties all night long, ending up with 1 or 2 girls.
Most of the guys here pick a girl, whether off the street, in a casa, or from online, set something up and have sex. They might party with the girl, or have dinner, but those things are just part of the sex. With Sjobs, the sex is part of the party. At least that's how it appears to me.
Dressing nice has no effect on Gusto. Many of the guys who are spending the most money are in good shape and dressed nice. Until closing time most will stick with their number. Once everyone is headed down the stairs, prices become more flexible.
Define your priorities. List them out in order. Then you'll have a better idea where to focus your energy.
Question about Gustos. Was this place open a couple years ago when I was there. I never heard of it or remember it mentioned on the board before I went. Also, is there any chance I can get a girl for 200 k. If you dress nice and are in good shape will they go for it.There are different types of girls in gusto.
1. Seasoned gusto pros who are there 4+ days per week, they are only after money, regardless your appearance, prepare to spend 150-250 dollar for subpar service. In order to get great service, you have to take them out many times and get them really drunk and high. The only time you can strike a 200-300 k deal with those girls are at the end of the night, when they are about to go home empty handed. Most of them will go to club paradise or faisan after gusto closes, where the standard price is 190-300 k anyway.
2. Infrequent pro, who are there a few times a months. If you are respectful, can dance well, willing to buy drinks, and have high quality tussi, you can easily get them for 200 k-300 k. They will ask for 700 k, but if they enjoy partying with you, they will agree to 250 k easily. Prepare to drop 100+ dollars on drinks.
3. Normal girls just there to party, they are rare but exist. They are typically older and not as good looking as other girls in there. It's fun to dance and hangout with them, they will offer to buy you drinks and most of them speak a little bit of English. But gusto is not a good place to pick up none working girls.
In my opinion, Gusto's girl is not worth it, their service is rarely good and it is really hard to find 18-21 year-olds in there. Gusto is a great place to party, it has awesome DJ and I like the facilities. A good amount of people in there are well dressed, in decent shape, and love to party. I recommend find a girl from the bar in the mansion or on fb, take them to gusto to party all night. Another way is go to club "lleras park", diagonally across the park from gusto, you can easily find a girl to party all night for 200 K, you can bring them to gusto if you want. They rarely provide good service and most of them are older than 21.
With Sjobs, the sex is part of the party. At least that's how it appears to me.Absolutely, a party without sex is not a party at all. For me, sex is like wine, it is pretty great to have it by itself, but it's true power lies in bringing out the finer things hidden in other activities.
I never heard of club Paradise or Faisan. All that research before I went and no mention of those clubs either. Anyway, it sounds like SA is going to be what I use the most next post virus trip. I'll throw in some tinder. I'm not looking for hard core pros unless I want a cheap girl or 2 to give a BBBJ. I guess centro would be the best place for that. I don't care about looks much if I want a pse BBBJ at a cheap price.
How do the girls look at faisan and club paradise.
I said Sao Paulo has more 10's than any other city I have ever been to but let's not kid ourselves and say this is a nice place to visit. It is not. You can have extreme weather conditions like this after 52 days of rain. 52!!
Here: http://csshurtssuxxx.********.com/2010/03/sao-paulo-shithole-of-world.html.
And then there is the traffic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSsDPVRAzjg.
What other city in the world has resorted to using helicopters to get around the traffic?
From the State Department: So Paulo suffers from extreme traffic congestion. It is very common for criminals to take advantage of peak traffic hours to victimize motorists that are stationary in traffic. In this manner, criminals are able to target a string of vehicles, rather than a single victim. Inquire what the current peak transit times are and, to the extent possible, plan commutes around those peak times. Carjacking and victimization while commuting is particularly concerning, so much so that affluent Brazilians commonly choose to armor and heavily tint the windows of their personal vehicles. The city is inundated with motorcyclists, many of whom are responsible for snatching items from open vehicle windows.
It took us 3 hours to get from the Paulista region to the airport during rush hour. 3 hours!!
Yes, the restaurants and museums are nice if you can get to them.
Then you have the air pollution: https://www.treehugger.com/environmental-policy/traffic-pollution-kills-more-people-traffic-accidents-sao-paulo-brazil.html.
According to a study commissioned by the Institute of Health and Sustainability, 4,655 people died as a result of air pollution in Sao Paulo in 2011. In that same time period, traffic fatalities accounted for 1,556 deaths. The study also points out that pollution contributed to over twice as many deaths that year than both Aids (874) and breast cancer (1,277) combined.
So Paulo air pollution particulates average 20 to 25 micrograms per cubic meter; over twice what is deemed safe by the World Health Organization.
I think the crime is worse in Rio than SP, but it is still present. Here is a state department blurb on that.
Exercise extreme caution in So Paulo nightclubs, which have swindled patrons into purchasing bottles of alcohol without disclosing the actual price of the drinks, at times running up to US $1,000/ bottle. Security personnel have physically harassed patrons who refuse to pay, and have taken their credit cards. Do not accept drinks from strangers, and always watch your drink. Scopolamine or a similar drug may be added to your drink. Victims have awoken robbed of possessions and / or sexually assaulted after accepting open drinks.
For pussy, Sao Paulo is the greatest city I have EVER been to, more 10's than anywhere else. For everything else, it IS a shithole! You want to go there for a reason other than women, have at it. It is all yours.I've been hanging in São Paulo for over 15 years now.
All the above is true, however, don't travel during rush hour, stay away from the third rate night clubs and you'll be fine.
All the normal precautions.
I love the city!
Lots to do, regulars bars, non pros, pros, tinder, the good wg night clubs RTF, and I've enjoyed the prives and CLínicas (like MDE casas but better), etc.
Then there's Rio. My favorite city on earth!
There are different types of girls in gusto.
1.Great synopsis!
Solarium is my favorite place, 4 x 4 in downtown is super fun too. Mab is a good place to grab a late night dinner and play the pickup game. Enjoy Brazil!All true, except unfortunately 4 x4 was recently destroyed by a fire.
Elvis 2008
03-28-20, 00:55
I've been hanging in So Paulo for over 15 years now.
All the above is true, however, don't travel during rush hour, stay away from the third rate night clubs and you'll be fine.
All the normal precautions.
I love the city!
Lots to do, regulars bars, non pros, pros, tinder, the good wg night clubs RTF, and I've enjoyed the prives and CLnicas (like MDE casas but better), etc.
Then there's Rio. My favorite city on earth!Good post, Balboa! I agree. The other thing I would add is if you find a keeper or two in SP, you all fly to Florianopolis. Unlike SP, Florianopolis does not have the best pay for play areas, and most of the SP women are game to go, but Florianopolis is a much nicer and less hectic place to visit. In fact, I think I might go do just that soon. LOL.
Sjobs,
Where is the best place to find 18 to 21 yo in your opinion. They have the best bodies. Is SA the best route for that age group. I don't really like the casas. It's such a cold place. It feels like these girls are hostages and being forced. They look so sad and unfriendly.
All true, except unfortunately 4 x4 was recently destroyed by a fire.What?
My god, I hope they will rebuild a better one with newer facility.
Mojo Bandit
03-28-20, 02:14
Another way is go to club "lleras park", diagonally across the park from gusto, you can easily find a girl to party all night for 200 K, you can bring them to gusto if you want. They rarely provide good service and most of them are older than 21.How many working girls are hanging out in Club Lleras Park? I assume you are talking about the place I am posting a photo of?
How many working girls are hanging out in Club Lleras Park? I assume you are talking about the place I am posting a photo of?Yup, that's the place. A decent amount of working girls are in there every night, the place is decent, but in my opinion, the DJ and the facility in gusto is much better. The rule at gusto is that if a working girl shows up after 11 pm, they can't get in unless a guy takes her in. Sometimes gusto-girls who couldn't get into gusto will end up in Lleras park.
It's nice to see some Medellin content.
How many working girls are hanging out in Club Lleras Park? I assume you are talking about the place I am posting a photo of?
Sjobs,
Where is the best place to find 18 to 21 yo in your opinion. They have the best bodies. Is SA the best route for that age group. I don't really like the casas. It's such a cold place. It feels like these girls are hostages and being forced. They look so sad and unfriendly.Facebook, if you don't mind paying 200-400 k (I hurts me to even write this figure, those 18-21 year-olds you can find on Fb are easily worth 800 dollars per hour in the states, you can get them all night for 250 k COP in Medellin, and some still consider this expensive, whatever, it is not my place to judge people). If 200 k is too much, go to El central, it is behind the white church in Botero park, after spending a few hours searching, you might find an 18 year-old for 40 k (it hurts me to write this number too, I just had a coffee and a bagel at Starbucks that costed more than 40 k cop). I can vouch for the quality and experience of fb girls, but when it come to EL central, I'm as competent as Trump is on the topic of Coronavirus. For more details on each approach, RTTF.
I never heard of club Paradise or Faisan. All that research before I went and no mention of those clubs either. Anyway, it sounds like SA is going to be what I use the most next post virus trip. I'll throw in some tinder. I'm not looking for hard core pros unless I want a cheap girl or 2 to give a BBBJ. I guess centro would be the best place for that. I don't care about looks much if I want a pse BBBJ at a cheap price.
How do the girls look at faisan and club paradise.Both are after hour clubs. Faisan is the after hour club of Fase dos and paradise is the after hour club of la isla, both places open 2 am - 6 am from Sunday to Wednesday (Paradise closes on Sunday), 4 am - 8 am from Thursday. Saturday. Both places have hot girls, there is a say that when you throw a tennis ball into a crowd in Medellin, if it lands on a girl, 85% of the chance she is a San Francisco 10. Paradise is more upscale, it has a proper dance floor, drinks are more expensive, and the view from its back balcony is my favorite; lots of gusto girl goes to paradise after gusto closes. Fasian is a bit cheaper, smaller, and there is no dance floor, you get a table with the girls, you can dance around the table. Paradise costs 300 k per hour, fasian costs 190 k per hour. You need to fuck the girls in the shitty rooms they provide, you can take the girl out to fuck her all night at your place (I highly recommend), but you have to pay 100 k exit fee and negotiate a price with the girl separately.
How recently was that? I thought I heard about that a year or more ago. I've not been to Brazil in almost five years so I'm out of touch with it all.
What?
My god, I hope they will rebuild a better one with newer facility.
Sjobs,
Where is the best place to find 18 to 21 yo in your opinion. They have the best bodies. Is SA the best route for that age group. I don't really like the casas. It's such a cold place. It feels like these girls are hostages and being forced. They look so sad and unfriendly.You are correct in that the girls in the "casa's" are hostages in the sense that they have no other financial means to support themselves, along with having to have sex with patrons they may find vulgar, and if they refuse, can lose their jobs, so yes, they are "forced" in that sense. As far as finding 18-21 year olds, lots and lots to be had in El Centro, but not everybody's cup of tea.
SlapShot10
03-28-20, 20:35
Wait, I lied. She's 20.
Anyway, just an update. My new esposa and her kitten are firmly entrenched in my apartment. His & Hers bathrooms, the cat wakes me up fucking around at 7 am, she sleeps until after I am done working out. I went for a run, today, up and down the hills of Poblado. It was nice to get out of the apartment, albeit for about 30 mins.
My time has been spent working out, cooking, working, tv / music, and video games (thankfully, I gave a PS4 to a local my last trip, and then took it back for the quarantine). We give each other a ton of personal space, throughout the day, and even at night. First chick in awhile that lets me roll over at sleep, when I want to. No forced cuddling, etc. We convene for meals, pretty much. She was on her period, thankfully, it should be fine today. On the 21-hour non-quarantine gap, she went to pick up her cat, get more clothes, and get a haircut. Her stylist never responded, so she ended up giving herself bangs, the next day. Crazy, but she looks cute. I used the brief window to repeat with the SA girl from Robledo. Couple pops on the couch, and then her sister needed help with something. It was perfect timing. I didn't want the stress of sneaking a girl out. She asked about food when she arrived, again. This time, I played dumb. 150 k, didn't look at the cash. Body is so good. She's a skinny morena with big naturals, and a tight pussy. I may or may not have stained the couch, but the awkward pillow placement has been a savior, thus far.
I think I'd be extremely bored without having my esposa here. She's not 100% my type, but it's all good. She plays on her phone all day, watches netflix, and takes pictures of herself on my phone. Judging by the massage oil handjob she gave me, I can only imagine how brutal her head game is going to be, IF we ever get to that point. She is also an SA girl, and I have to imagine she doesn't do this often. She lacks experience and sexuality. She's cute, though, and it's kind of the old making the best of a bad situation. I'm not sure I'd prefer trying to convince girls to come over, getting the glares from security / neighbors, or trying to avoid the policia in centro.
Not much to report. Stay safe, and watch Tiger King!
Cheers.
How recently was that? I thought I heard about that a year or more ago. I've not been to Brazil in almost five years so I'm out of touch with it all.In Rio, in October of last year, 4 x4 went down due to a fire, and even worse, 3 firemen died at the scene.
Snapshot can you put a picture from the girl with the big naturals that came over quick. I'd like to see what to expect for 150 k. What's her SA handle.
Surfer, why do you think some of these girls don't sell their body on tinder for much more than the casas or work at fase dos or la isla. I got a girls number from one of the casas last time I was there. She was 19 with a great natural body. She came to my hotel for a couple nights. I just don't understand why she worked there. She is what you guys would call that diamond in the ruff you are always looking for. At least she could have worked at the other options I mentioned. Do they not know these places exist. Are there too many girls trying to get into these places. Is tinder not as popular as I think for these girls to get enough business?
That's really awful, especially the loss of life. 4 X 4 is one of my earliest memories of Rio along with the legendary Help disco.
In Rio, in October of last year, 4 x4 went down due to a fire, and even worse, 3 firemen died at the scene.
In Rio, in October of last year, 4 x4 went down due to a fire, and even worse, 3 firemen died at the scene.This is very sad. It's like someone destroyed part of my childhood. My heart goes out to the firemen's family.
I have never been to a country except Brazil where at the end of the trip I said, "Damn, I am tired of sex."Funniest thing I read and so true. When I would get back from Brazil I wouldn't want sex for 3 months. I was sick of it for sure.
First trip to Colombia a year ago for 30 days I found these horrible creatures lurking at the bottom of the cesspool. But I was so desperate and did not know any Spanish so I had to take whatever I could get.Did you find those girls at el centro or the mall. They are all cute.
Rolling slightly off topic, I am getting thirsty offers for Poblado rentals at close to 50% off the going rates. I'm not even in the market looking to move but my whatsapp and facebook are blowing up. I mention this because of the newspaper report of yesterday that said Poblado has the highest concentration of coronavirus cases in Antioquia. It stands to reason because of the higher concentration of foreigners. I would not want to be trying to rent out apartments there right now. The guys who have several of those short term rentals have to be hurting because of the travel restrictions.
Anyway the police have been pretty chill in Centro. I can't say the same for the police in Bogota. They were shown on Caracol the other night cracking heads when people took too long to vacate a crowded park. There are lineups at financial service centers the past few days because people are trying to collect subsidies President Duque granted. It's similar to the US stimulus but no checks are mailed. You have to get the money from designated ATMs or cash outlets. Like you who went out for a run there are more and more people out on the streets during the day. The rules haven't changed but with a little more than two weeks to go it's clear people are going about the business of getting groceries and medicine. There are only supermarkets, grocery stores and pharmacies that are open for business as usual. Restaurants are still delivery or take out only, mostly delivery. I know first hand of somebody who got the dreaded 936,000 peso fine. She was not able to make a case for being out for an essential purpose. My experience is if you can come up with one of the main exceptions (grocery, pharmacy or care for an elderly person) and if you are not loitering then you aren't going to have a problem. The traffic is so light it's going to be a shock next month when the quarantine is lifted.
Wait, I lied. She's 20.
Anyway, just an update. My new esposa and her kitten are firmly entrenched in my apartment. His & Hers bathrooms, the cat wakes me up fucking around at 7 am, she sleeps until after I am done working out. I went for a run, today, up and down the hills of Poblado. It was nice to get out of the apartment, albeit for about 30 mins.
My time has been spent working out, cooking, working, tv / music, and video games (thankfully, I gave a PS4 to a local my last trip, and then took it back for the quarantine). We give each other a ton of personal space, throughout the day, and even at night. First chick in awhile that lets me roll over at sleep, when I want to. No forced cuddling, etc. We convene for meals, pretty much. She was on her period, thankfully, it should be fine today. On the 21-hour non-quarantine gap, she went to pick up her cat, get more clothes, and get a haircut. Her stylist never responded, so she ended up giving herself bangs, the next day. Crazy, but she looks cute. I used the brief window to repeat with the SA girl from Robledo. Couple pops on the couch, and then her sister needed help with something. It was perfect timing. I didn't want the stress of sneaking a girl out. She asked about food when she arrived, again. This time, I played dumb. 150 k, didn't look at the cash. Body is so good. She's a skinny morena with big naturals, and a tight pussy. I may or may not have stained the couch, but the awkward pillow placement has been a savior, thus far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL9MY5k7Gng&t=92s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIHb-nbS6ms
Surfer, why do you think some of these girls don't sell their body on tinder for much more than the casas or work at fase dos or la isla. I got a girls number from one of the casas last time I was there. She was 19 with a great natural body. She came to my hotel for a couple nights. I just don't understand why she worked there. She is what you guys would call that diamond in the ruff you are always looking for. At least she could have worked at the other options I mentioned. Do they not know these places exist. Are there too many girls trying to get into these places. Is tinder not as popular as I think for these girls to get enough business?Good question and I suspect that some of the girls might actually be on Tinder as well, or perhaps they cannot go out at night, in other words they have kids' or a husband to tend to at night. I'm not a "casa" guy but they must be getting some type of pay from the Casa whether they get pulled or not. Kind of like a minimum amount and additional money when they get pulled. Makes sense because why would they show up and spend a day there with no pay. In other words they know they are going to make perhaps 20 K to 30 K for being there. And I suspect most of their families have been told they work in a store or something like that as cover to what they really do.
I am sure there are other members who know how the "casa" system works relative to pay. I remember years ago when I used to patronize the "casa's" I would do exactly what you did, get the girls numbers and meet them at my Hotel.
Rolling slightly off topic, I am getting thirsty offers for Poblado rentals at close to 50% off the going rates. I'm not even in the market looking to move but my whatsapp and facebook are blowing up. I mention this because of the newspaper report of yesterday that said Poblado has the highest concentration of coronavirus cases in Antioquia. It stands to reason because of the higher concentration of foreigners. I would not want to be trying to rent out apartments there right now. The guys who have several of those short term rentals have to be hurting because of the travel restrictions.
Anyway the police have been pretty chill in Centro. I can't say the same for the police in Bogota. They were shown on Caracol the other night cracking heads when people took too long to vacate a crowded park. There are lineups at financial service centers the past few days because people are trying to collect subsidies President Duque granted. It's similar to the US stimulus but no checks are mailed. You have to get the money from designated ATMs or cash outlets. Like you who went out for a run there are more and more people out on the streets during the day. The rules haven't changed but with a little more than two weeks to go it's clear people are going about the business of getting groceries and medicine. There are only supermarkets, grocery stores and pharmacies that are open for business as usual. Restaurants are still delivery or take out only, mostly delivery. I know first hand of somebody who got the dreaded 936,000 peso fine. She was not able to make a case for being out for an essential purpose. My experience is if you can come up with one of the main exceptions (grocery, pharmacy or care for an elderly person) and if you are not loitering then you aren't going to have a problem. The traffic is so light it's going to be a shock next month when the quarantine is lifted.Hopefully Colombia will be spared of the carnage in progress in the USA, I don't condone cracking heads, but Colombia is at least enforcing the quarantine which hopefully is helping, in lieu of light enforcement activities, at least in Southern California where I am at has been happening, but I suspect will change when the infections skyrocket over the next few weeks.
As far as apartment rentals in Poblado, the vast majority of people renting are from the USA so supply is going to outstrip demand for quite a while as I don't see Colombia letting anyone from the USA or Europe back into the Country until there is a proven vaccine approved by WHO and certified like the Yellow Fever Certificate required of other Countries. So there's going to be a lot of vacant apartments and super low rents as you mentioned for probably the next year.
For a real estate investor, the coming months will be a great time to pick up luxury rental properties at bargain basement prices from owners wanting out.
SlapShot10
03-29-20, 00:16
Snapshot can you put a picture from the girl with the big naturals that came over quick. I'd like to see what to expect for 150 k. What's her SA handle.I'd like to preface these photos by saying this is 100% TjBrazil's fault, and if you appreciate the blur-editing, then you can thank me!
I think Fase dos and the like have stricter work rules than casas. You can come and go as you please at casas and it's harder to get fired. More than anything else however, casas offer the girls discretion. They get to see the potential customers before deciding whether to show themselves (we've all seen them peeking at us from behind curtains). You don't have that option on tinder or at strip clubs. It's very easy to be discovered by a relative, spouse or anybody on tinder or in strip clubs.
Surfer, why do you think some of these girls don't sell their body on tinder for much more than the casas or work at fase dos or la isla. I got a girls number from one of the casas last time I was there. She was 19 with a great natural body. She came to my hotel for a couple nights. I just don't understand why she worked there. She is what you guys would call that diamond in the ruff you are always looking for. At least she could have worked at the other options I mentioned. Do they not know these places exist. Are there too many girls trying to get into these places. Is tinder not as popular as I think for these girls to get enough business?
Snapshot what kind of photos are on their private viewing on SA. Are they usually half naked pictures.
Did you take those pictures or did they come from her. Looks good. Not huge naturals but nice nonetheless. How was she in bed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO4Z7Li62h8
What is that club?
LoveItHere69
03-29-20, 04:47
Did you find those girls at el centro or the mall. They are all cute.Centro Girls. The problem most guys with street girls is they are unable to figure out who is in the game and who is not. You have to sit and watch to learn who is who. Walking past a million times does not work well. The hot chick sitting right next to him is a player but he does not know it. He assumes that only the scantily dressed girls and the aggressive girls are the ones. The fine dressed one's pix were taken off her Facebook site. But she dressed to the 9's from day one. She had some pix where she had tons of makeup which tells me she is in a Club of some sort now. The other 2 girls pix taken at the'Grief Hotel. That was a year ago.
Other guy asked if I knew if the black girl was pregnant. Not sure why that matters. Not sure and do not care. She asked for 100. I jumped at it. Overpriced for that area but did not want to chance never seeing her again and miss my opportunity. I would have paid 150 for her.
So these girls are going to work for 40 k instead of 200 k at Isla because someone might see them. Seems crazy. Who cares. Everyone knows how hard life is in Colombia. I don't think it has the same stigma it would have in the states. Tinder at least is a dating site. You can talk money through what's app if you like the guy. I see girls from my job on tinder. No big deal. The girl I found was a solid 9. Would have paid her 200 k at isla without blinking a eye.
Mr Enternational
03-29-20, 07:13
I know first hand of somebody who got the dreaded 936,000 peso fine. She was not able to make a case for being out for an essential purpose. My experience is if you can come up with one of the main exceptions (grocery, pharmacy or care for an elderly person) and if you are not loitering then you aren't going to have a problem. The traffic is so light it's going to be a shock next month when the quarantine is lifted.She should have carried around a grocery bag with a couple items in it. You mean IF the quarantine is lifted. Cases are going up, not down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO4Z7Li62h8
What is that club?Had a 3 some yesterday. Was great for the most part until one mentioned time is up, and the other followed suit. So after they left, called a girl from the casa on 81 a laureles. Great place. Cheap with variety of girl friendly experience. I have fuck 7 over there so my foto place so to speak. Things I have notice. Hope it helps someone. Fast texters trouble, if they ask for lunch, expect a hustle, taxi prices is a hustle, if you agree to 3 hrs. Most like they not going to stick to hit. Most girls are shorter, thinner, younger looking than their pics. This is for girls in the 20's. Submissive one give the best performance and less headaches. Girls will agree to anything. Some cases stand firm and some cases just pay the money get rid of them. But if you are slick enough to get them out the building then only pay what they deserve. Tinder is good for non pros or proclaim non pros, but theirs also many chicks selling service. Yellow cab is only a $1 more than uber. If you are cheap like me make sure taxi meter is on when chick arrives so you don't get hustled. Put a set taxi rate agreement that way no surprise cost. Chicks are notorious late so never set an appointment for like 5 pm. Might ruined your entire day waiting. Colombia girls have little tits and quite a few lack hips and booty. Most don't give major problems. Just minor stuff. Food is cheap. Try to see foto identification and if possible show guard also bring girl to the guard. Tip the guard he could be your protection against trouble. This a Cheapy Charley perspective.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO4Z7Li62h8
What is that club?This is a club in parque Lleras, it is on the same street as club 'Lleras park', going away from the beer store, right across the street from the fried chicken place. The girls there are not that hot, they will dance with you for tips. Beer is cheap there, but you don't get much action, the DJ sucks, IMHO.
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