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MarquisdeSade1
08-15-20, 18:16
I wasn't too concerned. What's a pregnancy test going to tell me that I can't find out 10 days later by a period? Either way, it's not a Plan B scenario. I'm typically in no rush for bad news..But I do not get how guys call girls in your photos hot? You can, they can't, you blur the faces, they've never seen them.
Its like escort sites with blurred photos, even if the photos are legit I don't care, the face matters, I don't want an escort that is less than an 8.
If I can't see her face before she shows up, I rather look for something else.
Escorts are bullshit 99% are bait and switch bullshit.
If a hooker sends a photo with a blurred face I block her.
To me a photo with a blurred face is worse than no photo at all.
SlapShot10
08-15-20, 20:07
But I do not get how guys call girls in your photos hot? You can, they can't, you blur the faces, they've never seen them.
Its like escort sites with blurred photos, even if the photos are legit I don't care, the face matters, I don't want an escort that is less than an 8.
If I can't see her face before she shows up, I rather look for something else.
Escorts are bullshit 99% are bait and switch bullshit.
If a hooker sends a photo with a blurred face I block her.
To me a photo with a blurred face is worse than no photo at all.I'm the same way, and never entertain bringing a chick over whose face I have not seen. That being said, I don't see the upside, here. Your pleasure aside, it only opens the door for problems. You never know who is on this forum, and what they might do with the photos. Almost every girl I post can be found in one way or another, if you want to put the work in. I could genuinely not care less if you don't like the blurring. What's the difference, for me? If it's unblurred, then you'll PM me and ask for her contact info? Wow, great! Maybe there are some better websites to go to for your unblurred face fetish. If you don't have the ability to trust my selections or standards, it has zero effect on me. Believe me, I would prefer to post unedited photos, but the risk-reward is not skewed in my favor. It would be a quick way to get blackballed by a certain clique, if any of these chicas found out, had an issue with it, and decided to act on it. Not all of these girls want attention and money from every English-speaking guy on the planet. Some prefer to have some sense of privacy. Example: when Pinky realized people on Chaturbate screenshot and record shows, then post them on other sites, she quickly deleted her account, sent out several emails to have her content removed, and regretted her initial decision. So, if a girl says, "no face" then there's no fucking way I'm risking her ex-boyfriend, two brothers, and 12 cousins showing up to my apartment where she knows I live, all for your viewing pleasure.
If you were in town and wanted to have a beer and see these girls' faces, I'm all for it. I'm just not blasting them on a public forum for every Tom, Marquis, & Harry to do with them as they please. If it helps you finish, I'm a face & ass guy.
I'm the same way, and never entertain bringing a chick over whose face I have not seen. That being said, I don't see the upside, here. Your pleasure aside, it only opens the door for problems. You never know who is on this forum, and what they might do with the photos. Almost every girl I post can be found in one way or another, if you want to put the work in. I could genuinely not care less if you don't like the blurring. What's the difference, for me? If it's unblurred, then you'll PM me and ask for her contact info? Wow, great! Maybe there are some better websites to go to for your unblurred face fetish. If you don't have the ability to trust my selections or standards, it has zero effect on me. Believe me, I would prefer to post unedited photos, but the risk-reward is not skewed in my favor. It would be a quick way to get blackballed by a certain clique, if any of these chicas found out, had an issue with it, and decided to act on it. Not all of these girls want attention and money from every English-speaking guy on the planet. Some prefer to have some sense of privacy. Example: when Pinky realized people on Chaturbate screenshot and record shows, then post them on other sites, she quickly deleted her account, sent out several emails to have her content removed, and regretted her initial decision. So, if a girl says, "no face" then there's no fucking way I'm risking her ex-boyfriend, two brothers, and 12 cousins showing up to my apartment where she knows I live, all for your viewing pleasure.
If you were in town and wanted to have a beer and see these girls' faces, I'm all for it. I'm just not blasting them on a public forum for every Tom, Marquis, & Harry to do with them as they please. If it helps you finish, I'm a face & ass guy.Does all that 👆 mean you're not going to show her face, Lol 😅
PS, I don't blame ya.
MarquisdeSade1
08-15-20, 20:47
I'm the same way, and never entertain bringing a chick over whose face I have not seen. That being said, I don't see the upside, here. Your pleasure aside, it only opens the door for problems. You never know who is on this forum, and what they might do with the photos. Almost every girl I post can be found in one way or another, if you want to put the work in. I could genuinely not care less if you don't like the blurring. What's the difference, for me? If it's unblurred, then you'll PM me and ask for her contact info? Wow, great! Maybe there are some better websites to go to for your unblurred face fetish. If you don't have the ability to trust my selections or standards, it has zero effect on me. Believe me, I would prefer to post unedited photos, but the risk-reward is not skewed in my favor. It would be a quick way to get blackballed by a certain clique, if any of these chicas found out, had an issue with it, and decided to act on it. Not all of these girls want attention and money from every English-speaking guy on the planet. Some prefer to have some sense of privacy. Example: when Pinky realized people on Chaturbate screenshot and record shows, then post them on other sites, she quickly deleted her account, sent out several emails to have her content removed, and regretted her initial decision. So, if a girl says, "no face" then there's no fucking way I'm risking her ex-boyfriend, two brothers, and 12 cousins showing up to my apartment where she knows I live, all for your viewing pleasure.
If you were in town and wanted to have a beer and see these girls' faces, I'm all for it. I'm just not blasting them on a public forum for every Tom, Marquis, & Harry to do with them as they please. If it helps you finish, I'm a face & ass guy.And then you go on to be offended, and angrily respond defensively, you wrote a bunch but never bother to explain what's the point of the photos if you are going to delete the most critical part to most, she could be a 4, 5, 6 or 7 and you can call her amazingly hot, I'm suggesting its too easy for someone to say anything about a girl here and then post photos of her facing the wall it just seems a bit disingenuous to use your rationalizations, IMO. I'm either posting a photo unblurred or I'm not posting it.
But thanks for feeding the thread some actual mongering activity.
He's my friend. So what is post always have a happy ending. And so what wifey departure and pinky pregnancy seems mysteriously unresolved. And who cares if hes the only one with odd pictures. Also its is prerogative if he thinks someone 5' 2 and under can be a sex goddess. Times have changed when sex goddess were considered 5' 8 and over. Dammit guys give my friend a break. Hes a good guy.
Does all that 👆 mean you're not going to show her face, Lol 😅
PS, I dont blame ya..
There are very few people will apply for the special visa to go to a country with virus not under control. Most tourists want to stay in countries without virus. And I see expats trying to get into those countries with special visas if they are not in it already. Beside the visa requirement, there are some natural constraints in place to prevent too many tourists. For example, the quarantine housing must be approved by government. This will limit supply and increase the cost. Do you think flight attendants wants to work on these routes or stay at home if they have a choice? Basically everything will be more expensive and operating at lower capacity.
These two statements are incompatible so I think you actually are agreeing with me based on the second conclusion. I am speaking under the assumption that people who visit will follow the rules. I think if they catch people who visit but don't follow the rules, they will fix it by making it unpleasant for everyone qualified. A single bad apple can ruin the whole thing. This happened in Thailand already.Quarantines are going away. If not November by the 1st of the year. Not many are travelling with a quarantine. The slant of news stories will slowly become more optimistic. It's already happening. Much new information about the TCell immunity is already circulating. If people would just wear masks it would happen even sooner.
Escorts are bullshit 99% are bait and switch bullshit.
If a hooker sends a photo with a blurred face I block her.
To me a photo with a blurred face is worse than no photo at all.I can weed out the fake bullshit and high volume ones in minute. There are great finds if you can filter and I have lots of experience.
Quarantines are going away. If not November by the 1st of the year. Not many are travelling with a quarantine. The slant of news stories will slowly become more optimistic. It's already happening. Much new information about the TCell immunity is already circulating. If people would just wear masks it would happen even sooner.Quarantines in countries with a low number of cases will continue for some time. Quarantines for all incoming visitors, especially those from high risk countries, make sense, and are very very strongly supported by the public. Even in countries where tourism is very important. For example, I would be very surprised if Americans will be able to get into New Zealand, Canada, and other countries with the virus under control without quarantining on arrival. Once the case load of the virus is at a similar level, maybe. But that will never happen for the USA until there is a vaccine. My opinion of course...and its what I'm basing my travel plans or lack of plans on.
Quarantines in countries with a low number of cases will continue for some time. Quarantines for all incoming visitors, especially those from high risk countries, make sense, and are very very strongly supported by the public. Even in countries where tourism is very important. For example, I would be very surprised if Americans will be able to get into New Zealand, Canada, and other countries with the virus under control without quarantining on arrival. Once the case load of the virus is at a similar level, maybe. But that will never happen for the USA until there is a vaccine. My opinion of course...and its what I'm basing my travel plans or lack of plans on.Colombia has plenty of cases. It shouldn't be a problem at all. The virus is as contagious as the see'Mon. Cold. Even New Zealand has had to shutdown with homegrown cases.
FYI the virus is not under control in New Zealand or Canada. Greenland and Antartica are ahead of the game but well, you know.
Quarantines in countries with a low number of cases will continue for some time. Quarantines for all incoming visitors, especially those from high risk countries, make sense, and are very very strongly supported by the public. Even in countries where tourism is very important. For example, I would be very surprised if Americans will be able to get into New Zealand, Canada, and other countries with the virus under control without quarantining on arrival. Once the case load of the virus is at a similar level, maybe. But that will never happen for the USA until there is a vaccine. My opinion of course...and its what I'm basing my travel plans or lack of plans on.
SlapShot10
08-15-20, 23:52
He's my friend. So what is post always have a happy ending. And so what wifey departure and pinky pregnancy seems mysteriously unresolved. And who cares if hes the only one with odd pictures. Also its is prerogative if he thinks someone 5' 2 and under can be a sex goddess. Times have changed when sex goddess were considered 5' 8 and over. Dammit guys give my friend a break. Hes a good guy.
Blakman, if you had a pussy, you'd be banging Yao Ming, right now! Then, you'd probably fill your purse with free fortune cookies on the way out. Wifey departure was explained. Sorry it wasn't anything to exciting. I guess I could have posted 32 times like you did about your $12.58 agreement with The 8. Just two stubborn people that had a good run, and went their separate ways. Pinky's pregnancy was explained. Positive test, negative test. When she get's her period, then it's 2-1, I win.
Does all that 👆 mean you're not going to show her face, Lol 😅
PS, I dont blame ya.
I can't tell if all this fuss is because guys want to jerk off, guys want to search for these chicks on Tinder, etc., or guys think these chicas are probably ugly because their face is blurred. Whatever the issue is, I just hope we can get through it, as a group!
Some guys think height makes a sex goddess, others think performance does. Some guys drop the 8 rating like a bar of soap, others just draw figure 8's on girls' faces until you can't see them. I just find it strange that this 8 didn't have any face photos, and looks like a 3rd Round Draft Pick at New Life, Blakman, if that even is your real name...
Gringo Trooper
08-16-20, 00:01
I can't tell if all this fuss is because...I think we are all just jealous that you're living the life in MDE and getting action, while we're not LOL.
This is probably insensitive of me to say but I am going to say it anyway. Anyone who doesn't agree with how slapshot or any member chooses to share photos should go take their own photos and do with them as they like. These persistent requests feel to me like a bad mix of jealousy and thirst.
Blakman, if you had a pussy, you'd be banging Yao Ming, right now! Then, you'd probably fill your purse with free fortune cookies on the way out. Wifey departure was explained. Sorry it wasn't anything to exciting. I guess I could have posted 32 times like you did about your $12.58 agreement with The 8. Just two stubborn people that had a good run, and went their separate ways. Pinky's pregnancy was explained. Positive test, negative test. When she get's her period, then it's 2-1, I win...
I suggested to SJ going to Tijuana a while back and he wasn't interested. Last Sunday I parked my car at the border in San Ysidro, California and walked into Mexico. I presented my Passport Card, was asked where I was going, told them I had a dental appointment on Monday and was given a tourist card, they then took my temperature, I got in a cab and ten minutes later checked into a Hotel where one of my Chicas was waiting for me in Reception.
SJ could easily do the same if he wanted to, albeit the offerings aren't going to be as nice as in Medellin, but it would at least give him a pause until Colombia opens back up, at least it has for me.I always appreciate your advice, surfer. They are all good advice. I'm in NorCal, and I have access to high quality pussies, they are just older and a lot of more expensive than Medellin (I certainly can't afford to have foursomes with 18-years-olds in unlimited tussi all night), but I can make do. I haven't establish a mongering reputation in Mexico, I don't have any chica's numbers and I'm not a frequent visitor to any monger establishment there. Given the pandemic situation, I don't think I will do well in Mexico. On the other hand, I have invested at least 40 k in 4-5 months in Medellin on relationship development with 12 18-year-olds, if I make it back there, I will have an experience that is second to none. At the moment, there is no alternative for me. I'm optimistic about 9/1, it will not be a grand reopening, but as long as it opens, I will figure out a way to get back in.
Based upon the entry requirements you listed, how many passengers do you think they could expect daily? Ask the board. How many of the guys here are willing to:
1. Buy Colombian health insurance.
2. Pay for preflight and post quarantine testing.
3. Quarantine for 14 days.
4. Pay for 24 hour monitoring to ensure they don't break quarantine.
Some of the guys freak out if somebody buys a working girl dinner.I agree with your assessment about some of the BMs here. However, there are more than six billion people on the planet, out of the six billion, there are lots of none-Colombian citizens / residents who either have business investments, educational and research involvements, or serious personal ties (romantic or family) with Medellin. My guess is that this group can easily fill a considerable number of flights.
Under the conditions you propose, I'm not seeing a huge demand. But I'm seeing significant costs for Colombia. They need extra staff at every airport to check test results, take temperatures and verify valid Colombian health insurance. They need an isolation area to separate the arrivals waiting for processing from everyone else. They need some system to monitor everyone who is in quarantine. They need to figure out transportation. You can't just hop in a taxi to go to your quarantine and have the taxi driver go about his business. Then there's the monitoring of the monitors who make sure you don't break quarantine.
Aren't a lot of Colombians are jobless right now? Why can't they pass all the cost to the traveler, I'm happy to pay 2 k USD for 14 days of quarantine and personnel cost. The way I see it, it will be mutually beneficial for the Colombian government to pass the cost this small group of willing and desperate travelled.
See'Mon. You do all those things and you're in Medellin, in your penthouse and you're going to twiddle your thumbs for 14 days? I'm not buying it. By day 2 you've got girls coming over. If security won't let them in, you slip them enough money to look the other way. You might even hire a helicopter to drop them on the roof.
Why don't you just do what I suggested? Go to a Colombian consulate. Explain to them your business need to be in Colombia. Offer to meet or exceed any quarantine and testing requirement. Then ask if there's any way to get a special travel permit. It costs nothing to ask. There's a consulate in San Francisco.I have been trying since the end of May. It's not possible until 9/1; we have to wait until the announcement come out. The embassy is not issuing business visa right now.
IMHO, Slapshot and Pollo Negro are the most interesting posters on ISG right now, thanks guys, great work!
IMO. I'm either posting a photo unblurred or I'm not posting it.I think you made the point for SS. He can post what he wants.
It is very easy to get on FB or SA to pick what you think is hot, not what someone else think is hot. The best thing is you can chat with them and you may end up thinking there are too many, I can't catch up. LOL.
Blakman, if you had a pussy, you'd be banging Yao Ming, right now! Then, you'd probably fill your purse with free fortune cookies on the way out. Wifey departure was explained. Sorry it wasn't anything to exciting. I guess I could have posted 32 times like you did about your $12.58 agreement with The 8. Just two stubborn people that had a good run, and went their separate ways. Pinky's pregnancy was explained. Positive test, negative test. When she get's her period, then it's 2-1, I win.Bro, you are living the life of a person who makes more 800 k (base salary) a year in the US. We are all very jealous. You should ignore all the negative comments on your post. For me, I would never post any pictures that could disclose where I'm staying or which girl I'm seeing. I have been mongering for more than a decade, I have seen all the ugly stuff associated with a person's simple desire to fuck an 18-year-old. I'm certain that in 40 years, when you are a old man, this covid time would be one of the most glorious time for you, and one of the most depressing time for most of us. You have the upper hand right now, please go fuck as many paisas as possible for all of us.
But they aren't interested in "using their imagination" when so little of the economy is based on tourism. Costa Rica is much more reliant on tourism, and they in fact have set up a system for allowing tourists in, but not surprisingly have excluded the US. Rather than fantasizing about the way things "ought to be" SteveJobs should be planning a vacation someplace else, like Tijuana or the Dominican Republic.This is a good advice, I guess we will know in less than 2 weeks. If Colombia remains closed to all international travelers (I seriously doubt it), then I will get my 18-year-old pussies in the FKKs in Germany, I would have to go through a 14 day quarantine in the UK, since we are all working from home right now, what's the difference. If this is indeed the case, I will make my post either on the globe or the Oase thread.
FYI the virus is not under control in New Zealand or Canada. Greenland and Antartica are ahead of the game but well, you know.Depends what you or I mean by "under control". It is not at 0, that's for sure. But from the peak numbers have steadily been declining and in Canada, which I am familiar with, we are down to a low hundreds per day for the country, with many of these being in confined outbreaks (religious colonies in the prairies a big one right now). In the area I live in (population around 250,000) we have had only 2 or 3 new cases in the last month, there are no currently active cases, and life is returning to a sort of new normal, still physically distancing, using masks, sticking to small social groups, limited seating and activities indoors, no group meetings. We want to keep it this way so we can have this degree of normalcy until perhaps a vaccine is available, or some other solution. And it also lets the economy recover as most activities are getting back going.
Anyway, in connection with travel, Canada, as with all other countries, imported this virus originally via travel, with most of our early cases brought in from the USA (which only makes sense because of the huge numbers of people going both ways between Canada and the USA). So Canada closed land borders to all non-essential travel, and that continues until at least late September. Air travel into Canada is still allowed, but everyone except those classed as essential services (for example truckers) has to quarantine for 2 weeks if coming in to Canada. That policy, combined with all the things that we do internally (varies a little bit province to province, but generally similar) has allowed Canada to get case numbers down to a relatively low, and declining, number. So I guess that's what I mean by under control. And, with that, the chances of travelers from Canada having Covid are quite low.
ILuvThePussy
08-16-20, 15:01
This is a good advice, I guess we will know in less than 2 weeks. If Colombia remains closed to all international travelers (I seriously doubt it), then I will get my 18-year-old pussies in the FKKs in Germany, I would have to go through a 14 day quarantine in the UK, since we are all working from home right now, what's the difference. If this is indeed the case, I will make my post either on the globe or the Oase thread.Booked a flight for Sept. 15th with some leftover Jetblue points. Hopefully they don't extend the travel ban.
IMHO, Slapshot and Pollo Negro are the most interesting posters on ISG right now, thanks guys, great work!Can't forget about SJobs, I'm still holding on to hope he will attempt a land cross via Ecuador or Peru with a fake passport into Colombia. Now that would make for 1 hell of a story.
What is very interesting is that the blokes who complain about guys not showing the faces of girls in their photos never post photos at all much less photos with faces shown.
The Tall Man
08-16-20, 17:42
In over 20 plus years of mongering in many parts of the world not to be overshadowed by my 10 plus years here in Colombia I never thought I would come to say this but well there is so much good and great pussy available here in Medellin with so many avenues to find new pussy, yes dare I say it is so easy and inexpensive that I am feeling like a bit overwhelmed by it all, and this is in strict quarantine, that leaves me with a sense of just wanting to pull away and take a break, well I take a break for a day or two then just need to get out and get something new and fresh.
Just in this past week, 7 days, and not even trying rather trying to just lay low and relax on the pussy stuff, well in 7 days have had 3 different chicas and this was an off-week, 2 were Vennies (an 18 and 19 yo) and one a paisa at 23 yo, all 3 were off the charts sex in terms of passion and fun that leaves me breathless, and this is not even trying rather just going with the flow.
I have friends who stay under the radar and post little on these boards and these guys are getting 2 chicas a day, every day, every week, every month, just incredible this "silent majority" is having a life like a rock star and again they don't have any need to get on a soap box and brag about, just really cool.
Some of you post great photos of your cuties and yes they are cute and sexy and must say that just in the past month I regularly see a handful of this same kind of quality and I just plow away. Gawd I am a lucky man.
Happy Sunday to all!
The Tall Man.
SlapShot10
08-16-20, 17:52
Translated quote from Duque, this morning (not sure if anyone has further information):
We will start, starting September 1, to enable more air routes in the city of Bogotá and also in other cities in the country, let's do it with all the protocols, we have to start doing this reactivation that needs so much the country with responsibility.
Marquis, your mailbox is full.
MarquisdeSade1
08-16-20, 18:08
Translated quote from Duque, this morning (not sure if anyone has further information):
We will start, starting September 1, to enable more air routes in the city of Bogot and also in other cities in the country, let's do it with all the protocols, we have to start doing this reactivation that needs so much the country with responsibility.
Marquis, your mailbox is full.https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/colombia-economic-slump-fears-20-years-gains-erased-200815111523528.html
In over 20 plus years of mongering in many parts of the world not to be overshadowed by my 10 plus years here in Colombia I never thought I would come to say this but well there is so much good and great pussy available here in Medellin with so many avenues to find new pussy, yes dare I say it is so easy and inexpensive that I am feeling like a bit overwhelmed by it all, and this is in strict quarantine, that leaves me with a sense of just wanting to pull away and take a break, well I take a break for a day or two then just need to get out and get something new and fresh.
Just in this past week, 7 days, and not even trying rather trying to just lay low and relax on the pussy stuff, well in 7 days have had 3 different chicas and this was an off-week, 2 were Vennies (an 18 and 19 yo) and one a paisa at 23 yo, all 3 were off the charts sex in terms of passion and fun that leaves me breathless, and this is not even trying rather just going with the flow.
I have friends who stay under the radar and post little on these boards and these guys are getting 2 chicas a day, every day, every week, every month, just incredible this "silent majority" is having a life like a rock star and again they don't have any need to get on a soap box and brag about, just really cool.
Some of you post great photos of your cuties and yes they are cute and sexy and must say that just in the past month I regularly see a handful of this same kind of quality and I just plow away. Gawd I am a lucky man.
Happy Sunday to all!
The Tall Man.That happens because like I always said tourist are the ones that damage the puta economy. THe high end puta market demand is very low so now they are trying to compete with the normal putas where the supply got bigger and the demand decreased also. So what happens price are going low and attitudes are getting better because there is no 1 night tourist to fuck up take his money and do it again with another one because the is not international flights.
MongerHunger
08-16-20, 18:39
Translated quote from Duque, this morning (not sure if anyone has further information):
We will start, starting September 1, to enable more air routes in the city of Bogot and also in other cities in the country, let's do it with all the protocols, we have to start doing this reactivation that needs so much the country with responsibility.
Marquis, your mailbox is full.I know a lot of people are wondering if Colombia will impose a 14 day mandatory quarantine for all international travelers arriving in the country.
Black Page
08-16-20, 18:52
, then I will get my 18-year-old pussies in the FKKs in Germany,.
In Germany yesterday they have reopened the brothels, BUT NO SEX ALLOWED. Yes: only massage.
In Germany yesterday they have reopened the brothels, BUT NO SEX ALLOWED. Yes: only massage.WTF? That's like opening a restaurant where you're only permitted to smell the food.
MarquisdeSade1
08-16-20, 21:26
That happens because like I always said tourist are the ones that damage the puta economy. THe high end puta market demand is very low so now they are trying to compete with the normal putas where the supply got bigger and the demand decreased also. So what happens price are going low and attitudes are getting better because there is no 1 night tourist to fuck up take his money and do it again with another one because the is not international flights.A very astute observer of the economics of mongering101.
But those that love to overpay will probably try to dismiss what you say.
Muchas Gracias.
In Germany yesterday they have reopened the brothels, BUT NO SEX ALLOWED. Yes: only massage.Now that is seriously funny! Like I'm going to go to Frankfurt, rent a car to drive to OAse just to get a massage.
Now that is seriously funny! Like I'm going to go to Frankfurt, rent a car to drive to OAse just to get a massage.What makes it even worse / funnier is that Oase sometimes only have a guy who gives massage.
Might just take it easy this weekend. I'm contemplating what to do when my Sep 5 rent is up. The manager asked if I will extend because, again, "some people are very interested. " I have to imagine that's complete bullshit, but whatever. She's doing her job, but I'd pay double if she offered me a night with her sister. Anyhow. I have been thinking, IF DOMESTIC TRAVEL OPENS, to go to a couple places I haven't been: Pereira, Cali, San Andres. I'm just not sure if it's wise to uproot, lug around all my crap, and be in an unfamiliar place. Although, based on SA and Instagram, I really think Pereira could be a hidden gem for chicks, and off the beaten path. If everything is in lockdown, maybe it's better to just stay where I'm comfortable. I might go back to the US, but if there aren't any indicators of things improving, I just don't see a reason to. Anyone else in a similar position, or have any experience in the locations I mentioned? I think San Andres would be best if I brought a chica, but Pereira / Cali would be a different trip.
Cheers & Happy Weekend.Hey SlapShot,
Of those options, Pereira would be my choice. San Andres would be a very small place to monger in. Cali is too hot. But Pereira, I have only spent a day there, but I liked it and there are a lot of hotties there. Oh man, you would crush it in Pereira.
Other topic: I've been ordering dinner from La Causa, via Rappi. Excellent Peruvian food. Te lo recomiendo.
I know a lot of people are wondering if Colombia will impose a 14 day mandatory quarantine for all international travelers arriving in the country.There is no international travel yet. https://twitter.com/BOG_ELDORADO/status/1294078761101598720.
I think it's just a few guys that can see through the charade responding to give visibility. Theres quite a few gullibles on this site. Knowledge its true that slapshot should display or not display pics any way he please. My anger is at guys paying for pics and videos. If slapshot can be incendiary and bragadocious then certainly he can be humiliocious LOL
This is probably insensitive of me to say but I am going to say it anyway. Anyone who doesn't agree with how slapshot or any member chooses to share photos should go take their own photos and do with them as they like. These persistent requests feel to me like a bad mix of jealousy and thirst..
Lucky Nuts
08-17-20, 06:03
Now that is seriously funny! Like I'm going to go to Frankfurt, rent a car to drive to OAse just to get a massage.Just to clarify for SJ's benefit the Germany FKKs are closed and there is no reopening date yet known. But SJ you can go back to Globe in Switz or to Austria. There the FKKs are open.
I see now city of Berlin opened brothels. But I doubt Artemis (their only FKK) has re-opened. Of course the good FKKs are located far from Berlin anyhow.
I am with you about the pic and video payment thing. My feelings about it triangulate between confusion, pity, and doubts that it can really be happening. I think I am fearful of a "there but for the grace of God go I" scenario in which I would do it. It is truly scary.
I think it's just a few guys that can see through the charade responding to give visibility. Theres quite a few gullibles on this site. Knowledge its true that slapshot should display or not display pics any way he please. My anger is at guys paying for pics and videos. If slapshot can be incendiary and bragadocious then certainly he can be humiliocious LOL.
There is no international travel yet. https://twitter.com/BOG_ELDORADO/status/1294078761101598720.Your headline states "No International Travel in September", and the tweet you linked states the first week of September. Your statement may turn out to be true, but I think you are making a huge leap to say all of September. I think there is a good chance there will be some international travel later in September. I base that on looking at Copa's flight schedules. The price of flights later in September have gone up about 20% in the past two weeks. Maybe it is wishful thinking on their part, or maybe they have some insider information.
In over 20 plus years of mongering in many parts of the world not to be overshadowed by my 10 plus years here in Colombia I never thought I would come to say this but well there is so much good and great pussy available here in Medellin with so many avenues to find new pussy, yes dare I say it is so easy and inexpensive that I am feeling like a bit overwhelmed by it all, and this is in strict quarantine, that leaves me with a sense of just wanting to pull away and take a break, well I take a break for a day or two then just need to get out and get something new and fresh.
Just in this past week, 7 days, and not even trying rather trying to just lay low and relax on the pussy stuff, well in 7 days have had 3 different chicas and this was an off-week, 2 were Vennies (an 18 and 19 yo) and one a paisa at 23 yo, all 3 were off the charts sex in terms of passion and fun that leaves me breathless, and this is not even trying rather just going with the flow.
I have friends who stay under the radar and post little on these boards and these guys are getting 2 chicas a day, every day, every week, every month, just incredible this "silent majority" is having a life like a rock star and again they don't have any need to get on a soap box and brag about, just really cool.
Some of you post great photos of your cuties and yes they are cute and sexy and must say that just in the past month I regularly see a handful of this same kind of quality and I just plow away. Gawd I am a lucky man.
Happy Sunday to all!
The Tall Man.Not to take anything away, but if you live in a place where prostitution is legal, why wouldn't you get a new girl everyday? Seems pretty obvious to me. Pros are fun, that's why this is a hobby. It's what you do between your regular (non-paid) gfs. Now, in the past, I've boasted about getting chicks because of my build, physical attributes, and pure game. But, when the day comes that I start bragging about banging a pro, that's a sad day. Come on, man, think about it.
I'm the same way, and never entertain bringing a chick over whose face I have not seen. That being said, I don't see the upside, here. Your pleasure aside, it only opens the door for problems. You never know who is on this forum, and what they might do with the photos. Almost every girl I post can be found in one way or another, if you want to put the work in. I could genuinely not care less if you don't like the blurring. What's the difference, for me? If it's unblurred, then you'll PM me and ask for her contact info? Wow, great! Maybe there are some better websites to go to for your unblurred face fetish. If you don't have the ability to trust my selections or standards, it has zero effect on me. Believe me, I would prefer to post unedited photos, but the risk-reward is not skewed in my favor. It would be a quick way to get blackballed by a certain clique, if any of these chicas found out, had an issue with it, and decided to act on it. Not all of these girls want attention and money from every English-speaking guy on the planet. Some prefer to have some sense of privacy. Example: when Pinky realized people on Chaturbate screenshot and record shows, then post them on other sites, she quickly deleted her account, sent out several emails to have her content removed, and regretted her initial decision. So, if a girl says, "no face" then there's no fucking way I'm risking her ex-boyfriend, two brothers, and 12 cousins showing up to my apartment where she knows I live, all for your viewing pleasure.
If you were in town and wanted to have a beer and see these girls' faces, I'm all for it. I'm just not blasting them on a public forum for every Tom, Marquis, & Harry to do with them as they please. If it helps you finish, I'm a face & ass guy.You said it all and said it well.
Quite a few of the working girls already know about ISG and plenty of the Colombian guys know about it. It's one thing to post a pic off of the girl's Facebook page, but posting a picture you took, without blurring is just asking for problems.
For someone who visits 1 week each year, it's not a big deal. As long as they're not interested in repeats. But for guys who spend a lot of time and see the same girls multiple times, you're just playing Russian roulette.
The girls who are sending me videos now have all expressed how much they are trusting me not to post or share their stuff. If one identifiable screen capture got back to them, the whole group would be forever closed.
Not so cut and dry IronQuinn. Lot deeper than you imagined. Any member care to chime in.
Many guys brag about sexing a regular girl, when they actually paid more to have sex with her and put in more time than with a pro. In addition, you may not know her background she could be a pro or have been a pro or was a hoe, but could be a legit girl as well. So the bragging mongerer may look at you like cmon man really what's there to brag about. Just a flip side to your definitive statement
Not to take anything away, but if you live in a place where prostitution is legal, why wouldn't you get a new girl everyday? Seems pretty obvious to me. Pros are fun, that's why this is a hobby. It's what you do between your regular (non-paid) gfs. Now, in the past, I've boasted about getting chicks because of my build, physical attributes, and pure game. But, when the day comes that I start bragging about banging a pro, that's a sad day. Come on, man, think about it..
MarquisdeSade1
08-17-20, 18:31
Not so cut and dry IronQuinn. Lot deeper than you imagined. Any member care to chime in.
Many guys brag about sexing a regular girl, when they actually paid more to have sex with her and put in more time than with a pro. In addition, you may not know her background she could be a pro or have been a pro or was a hoe, but could be a legit girl as well. So the bragging mongerer may look at you like cmon man really what's there to brag about. Just a flip side to your definitive statement .They are like cell phone contracts, some are pre-paid, month to month, some require deposit (wedding ring) long term contract etc.
This is probably insensitive of me to say but I am going to say it anyway. Anyone who doesn't agree with how slapshot or any member chooses to share photos should go take their own photos and do with them as they like. These persistent requests feel to me like a bad mix of jealousy and thirst.Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!
TitusPullo88
08-17-20, 18:39
How do you go about finding escorts / prepagos on twitter? Do you just put in certain hash tags and just search it?
WTF? That's like opening a restaurant where you're only permitted to smell the food.Well, they'll rub the food on your back and then wipe it off.
Not so cut and dry IronQuinn. Lot deeper than you imagined. Any member care to chime in.
Many guys brag about sexing a regular girl, when they actually paid more to have sex with her and put in more time than with a pro. In addition, you may not know her background she could be a pro or have been a pro or was a hoe, but could be a legit girl as well. So the bragging mongerer may look at you like cmon man really what's there to brag about. Just a flip side to your definitive statement .The regular girl you picked up in the bar that you bragged about to your friends; a week later somebody else was bragging about her.
Take 2 different mongers and they'll likely have different opinions about the same working girl. YMMV is always in play. She might kiss one like he's her prom date and kiss the other like her grandmother. She might require a tip for BBBJ for one and not the other. She might be in a hurry to leave or be happy to stay all night. She might be hitting you up every day asking for a repeat at a reduced price, or she might not respond to your messages.
They might all be WGs, but they're also individuals and each one is going to be different.
On the subject of overpaying: Every time you pay for sex, you're overpaying. Somebody out there is getting that pussy for free. Almost guaranteed someone who is paying for it is paying less than you are. You don't think they're actually paying for all those crappy tattoos, do you?
I am with you about the pic and video payment thing. My feelings about it triangulate between confusion, pity, and doubts that it can really be happening. I think I am fearful of a "there but for the grace of God go I" scenario in which I would do it. It is truly scary.Perhaps this will put it into perspective for you.
Right now there are plenty of women in Medellin who you would never fuck, even if they were giving it away. Somebody is fucking them and paying them. Somebody is actively searching for them.
Right now there are guys paying more for a professional massage and a handjob, in Medellin, than you're paying for sex. And they're happy about it.
Right now, at the very moment you read this, there's some guy who just spent your pussy budget for a month on a webcam model. There are 1,000 other guys who will spend more on webcams in 3 months than you spend in a year, all expenses included.
Right now there's some fat, ugly 45+ year old woman on a webcam and she'll make $300 or more today.
Right now there's some guy spending $10,000 on a Japanese sex robot.
Take all those guys and convert them to enjoying the same girls you currently enjoy and you're going to find yourself priced out of the market.
Not too long ago Blakman stated he couldn't even think about having sex with a woman over 30. It made him nauseous just to read reports about women over 30. A week later he was raving about a woman over 30.
Different strokes is all it is.
I've bought videos off of several different working girls. All of them were already selling videos, so I didn't create the market. Unless you're actively working the Facebook market it's unlikely you'll be affected by my purchases. Except for one girl, it's unlikely that Blakman will be affected either, since almost all of them are well above his stated price point.
Actually, thinking about it more, none of this will have any effect on Blakman. The tallest girl is only 5' 5" and the ones that he got upset about are 5'3" and 4'10".
The regular girl you picked up in the bar that you bragged about to your friends; a week later somebody else was bragging about her.
Take 2 different mongers and they'll likely have different opinions about the same working girl. YMMV is always in play. She might kiss one like he's her prom date and kiss the other like her grandmother. She might require a tip for BBBJ for one and not the other. She might be in a hurry to leave or be happy to stay all night. She might be hitting you up every day asking for a repeat at a reduced price, or she might not respond to your messages.
They might all be WGs, but they're also individuals and each one is going to be different.
On the subject of overpaying: Every time you pay for sex, you're overpaying. Somebody out there is getting that pussy for free. Almost guaranteed someone who is paying for it is paying less than you are. You don't think they're actually paying for all those crappy tattoos, do you?But no one gets pussy on demand for free. When I pay for pussy it's when I want it and on my terms. That is the valuable part of the deal. Pussy on demand comes with a price.
Not so cut and dry IronQuinn. Lot deeper than you imagined. Any member care to chime in.
Many guys brag about sexing a regular girl, when they actually paid more to have sex with her and put in more time than with a pro. In addition, you may not know her background she could be a pro or have been a pro or was a hoe, but could be a legit girl as well. So the bragging mongerer may look at you like cmon man really what's there to brag about. Just a flip side to your definitive statement.If you saw the POS I drive, you'd know I don't put much cash into my girls, LOL. I'm no silver-spooner, or trust-fund baby living off old money, so I tell any girl I get with how it's going to be off the bat. But, I understand what you're trying to say. I guess it's all perspective. For example, I'm turning forty this year (damn). But I've been told by chicks I look twenty-seven (something I attribute to hitting weights for years and my Arabian blood). So for me, I can still pull regular girls half my age without much of a problem (got a 22-year-old chocolate bunny right now). But, I know there will come a day when I can't do that anymore, and mongering for me will become my primary route for girls, rather than a now and then hobby. I'm just not there yet, that's why I can't see bragging about it. See what I'm saying? At the same time, I'm happy for you and any other dude that gets to live in Colombia. Make the most of it, brother. I guarantee one thing though, when the time comes that I can cross that border again, there's going to be some ass destruction.
Elvis 2008
08-17-20, 20:44
Not to take anything away, but if you live in a place where prostitution is legal, why wouldn't you get a new girl everyday? But, when the day comes that I start bragging about banging a pro, that's a sad day. Come on, man, think about it.I didn't see TM as bragging about himself just about how great how things are for everyone in Medellin right now. When there are hard economic times, it can rain high quality pussy at a cheap price. I saw some of that myself in Argentina in 2003 (but 2001 was the best year I heard) and heard about Russia in 1998.
I guess that is the corollary to you want to be buying when there is blood in the streets. That is when you want to be buying pussy as well.
I didn't see TM as bragging about himself just about how great how things are for everyone in Medellin right now. When there are hard economic times, it can rain high quality pussy at a cheap price. I saw some of that myself in Argentina in 2003 (but 2001 was the best year I heard) and heard about Russia in 1998.
I guess that is the corollary to you want to be buying when there is blood in the streets. That is when you want to be buying pussy as well.Cuba in the 90's. As much as I've enjoyed Brasil and Colombia over the years, I'm not sure anything beats Cuba in the 90's.
AdventureSeekr
08-17-20, 21:58
Blakman, if you had a pussy, you'd be banging Yao Ming, right now! Then, you'd probably fill your purse with free fortune cookies on the way out. Wifey departure was explained. Sorry it wasn't anything to exciting. I guess I could have posted 32 times like you did about your $12.58 agreement with The 8. Just two stubborn people that had a good run, and went their separate ways. Pinky's pregnancy was explained. Positive test, negative test. When she get's her period, then it's 2-1, I win.
I can't tell if all this fuss is because guys want to jerk off, guys want to search for these chicks on Tinder, etc., or guys think these chicas are probably ugly because their face is blurred. Whatever the issue is, I just hope we can get through it, as a group!
Some guys think height makes a sex goddess, others think performance does. Some guys drop the 8 rating like a bar of soap, others just draw figure 8's on girls' faces until you can't see them. I just find it strange that this 8 didn't have any face photos, and looks like a 3rd Round Draft Pick at New Life, Blakman, if that even is your real name...Nominating this for best post of the year. Man, I laughed so hard through this whole thing. Hilarious and dead accurate.
It's so annoying when a girl ask me to buy pics and videos. Theres pornhub. But yeah the 32 year old 8 which because of age and height I will drop to a 7. She's about 5' 3. Was a pleasant surprise. Changed my perspective of older woman a tad bit just a tad. But I never called her a sex goddess.
I do feel many Colombians lack the full natural package to be called sex goddess.
Perhaps this will put it into perspective for you.
Right now there are plenty of women in Medellin who you would never fuck, even if they were giving it away. Somebody is fucking them and paying them. Somebody is actively searching for them.
Right now there are guys paying more for a professional massage and a handjob, in Medellin, than you're paying for sex. And they're happy about it.
Right now, at the very moment you read this, there's some guy who just spent your pussy budget for a month on a webcam model. There are 1,000 other guys who will spend more on webcams in 3 months than you spend in a year, all expenses included.
Right now there's some fat, ugly 45+ year old woman on a webcam and she'll make $300 or more today.
Right now there's some guy spending $10,000 on a Japanese sex robot.
Take all those guys and convert them to enjoying the same girls you currently enjoy and you're going to find yourself priced out of the market.
Not too long ago Blakman stated he couldn't even think about having sex with a woman over 30. It made him nauseous just to read reports about women over 30. A week later he was raving about a woman over 30.
Different strokes is all it is.
I've bought videos off of several different working girls. All of them were already selling videos, so I didn't create the market. Unless you're actively working the Facebook market it's unlikely you'll be affected by my purchases. Except for one girl, it's unlikely that Blakman will be affected either, since almost all of them are well above his stated price point.
Actually, thinking about it more, none of this will have any effect on Blakman. The tallest girl is only 5' 5" and the ones that he got upset about are 5'3" and 4'10"..
Joey Smith
08-17-20, 23:01
There is no international travel yet. https://twitter.com/BOG_ELDORADO/status/1294078761101598720.International Travel has not been shutdown. Re read it. Colombia has other airports.
How do you go about finding escorts / prepagos on twitter? Do you just put in certain hash tags and just search it?The only two places where I have experience finding prepagos on Twitter are Bogota and Mexico City. It's not really used much in Medellin.
For Bogota just search for either "masaje" or "prepago" and you'll find plenty. For Mexico City there are a few accounts to follow. You can find them on the Mexico City board.
But no one gets pussy on demand for free. When I pay for pussy it's when I want it and on my terms. That is the valuable part of the deal. Pussy on demand comes with a price.There was a time when I got pussy on demand for free on a regular basis. Often enough that I was only paying for sex about once a year. Granted, I didn't have 500 options. Depending on what city I was in I had between 0 and 4 options, but all I had to do was call and let whichever one know when I'd be there.
I suppose I could still have free pussy on demand, but I'm not interested in the 40+ women.
I don't have any problem with paying. Or overpaying. If you're getting it and are happy with the price then that's all that matters.
Cuba in the 90's. As much as I've enjoyed Brasil and Colombia over the years, I'm not sure anything beats Cuba in the 90's.Although it would be great if you could compare it with Cuba prior to the revolution.
It's so annoying when a girl ask me to buy pics and videos. Theres pornhub. But yeah the 32 year old 8 which because of age and height I will drop to a 7. She's about 5' 3. Was a pleasant surprise. Changed my perspective of older woman a tad bit just a tad. But I never called her a sex goddess.
I do feel many Colombians lack the full natural package to be called sex goddess..Now there's a subject for discussion!
Too many, and it seems the hotter the girl the more likely, don't put forth any effort at all. Too many get implants or injections they don't need. Definitely too many cover themselves with shitty tattoos. I've got nothing against tattoos. I've seen some which are incredible. But just like all art, some belongs on Mommy's refrigerator and some belongs in an art gallery.
The part missing from most of them is the ability to carry on a conversation. There's one who keeps hitting me up. Her entire repertoire consists of:
"Hla", "Cm estas" and "me algro".
Give me a woman who wants to leave me lack a bowl of jello and who can talk as well as she fucks and I might just marry her.
TitusPullo88
08-18-20, 15:08
The only two places where I have experience finding prepagos on Twitter are Bogota and Mexico City. It's not really used much in Medellin.
For Bogota just search for either "masaje" or "prepago" and you'll find plenty. For Mexico City there are a few accounts to follow. You can find them on the Mexico City board.Facebook for Medellin then? Any tips to find prepagos on FB other than just typing in prepago etc and see what you find? Most of the girls I saw on there don't look active, but I'm assuming their burner accounts and they don't update them often.
But no one gets pussy on demand for free. When I pay for pussy it's when I want it and on my terms. That is the valuable part of the deal. Pussy on demand comes with a price.If we're talking about a regular working girl you just met, I absolutely agree with you. If you know the girl, and have established an understanding, that's a different story. I was actually on the flip side of that three years ago. I met a girl in the gym who was a recent college grad. She came onto me, but it was mutual, the girl was hot. I never took her on dates, we just screwed. This chick would actually buy me shit, even groceries each week. But, it was like I was on call. She would call and say, "I need you over here now. " I'd always smirk and think, "so this is what it feels like to be on the other side".
If we're talking about a regular working girl you just met, I absolutely agree with you. If you know the girl, and have established an understanding, that's a different story. I was actually on the flip side of that three years ago. I met a girl in the gym who was a recent college grad. She came onto me, but it was mutual, the girl was hot. I never took her on dates, we just screwed. This chick would actually buy me shit, even groceries each week. But, it was like I was on call. She would call and say, "I need you over here now. " I'd always smirk and think, "so this is what it feels like to be on the other side".That kind of stuff used to happen to me all the time. Only problem is that was well into the last century!
Although it would be great if you could compare it with Cuba prior to the revolution.I'm going to guess it was expensive prior to the revolution. You had all the high-rollers from the US going down there. It was Vegas before Vegas became big. But in the 90's after the Soviet Union stopped subsidizing Cuba, it was incredibly cheap. And the women weren't yet hardened pros. As reasonable as Colombia is now with these favorable exchange rates, Cuba in the 90's was a fraction of the price.
Facebook for Medellin then? Any tips to find prepagos on FB other than just typing in prepago etc and see what you find? Most of the girls I saw on there don't look active, but I'm assuming their burner accounts and they don't update them often.Go to the General Info thread. Search for Facebook. I put a post there several months ago explaining how to find girls on Facebook.
MongerHunger
08-19-20, 19:17
I found some information about international flights returning to Colombia in November instead of September.
https://www.colombia.com/turismo/destacadas/turismo-vuelos-internacionales-aeropuerto-el-dorado-278043
SlapShot10
08-19-20, 20:52
...nothing about travel or COVID, however, Pinky DOES have her period. We found that out, last night. It was the most beautiful crime scene I've ever seen.
LUGNUT, I was looking at AirBnB and some other sites for Pereira. I didn't see many intriguing options. It seems like I would normally want to be in the Circunvalar area, but if everything is shutdown, then maybe it wouldn't matter as much. I saw flights available, and I believe MDE is open for domestic flights to a handful of airports, now.
I'm so comfortable here, that I'm on the fence about leaving. Just the shit in my fridge and pantry is giving me stress, thinking about what I'd do for a short-term stay in a new city. I guess basic stuff and Rappi. On one hand, it might be awesome to sneak into a smaller city like Pereira during the quarantine and see what I can make of Tinder, SA, etc. On the other hand, I'd be leaving an apartment / situation with hundreds of contacts, for a new city with no entertainment options available. The other thing would possibly be needing to extend my "visa" which could be a headache in another city. Here, I could bring a friend, or at least be familiar with the landscape. Strong opinions welcomed!
I had some leaks/bubbling in the bathroom and closet. The management company sent over the owner's contractor, who built the unit. I told the manager that the 4 workers left the place a mess, with drywall, paint, dust, boot prints, etc., all over the apartment. I suggested she send over a cleaning service. She said good idea - $35. These people are morons. I said there is no chance I'm paying for the clean up of the owner's plumber and his crew. She said they will clean up after themselves. They have been 3 hours late, on average, and left in the late afternoon. He said they'll be back Friday, but he doesn't know what time. They did not clean anything, today, I guess because there was only two of them. I can't stand this management company. Just zero common sense. Again, I was asked about extending my rent, because there is a lot of interest in the unit. WHO THE FUCK IS INTERESTED? They have several comparable units available on their site.
The too-short-and-too-Colombian-to-be-a-sex-goddess is coming over in a bit...
Cheers.
The news that it is November1st is not new. it has been reported several times already by Colombian agencies. Too many people are in denial that it will be at least November1st before tourist can enter
I found some information about international flights returning to Colombia in November instead of September.
https://www.colombia.com/turismo/destacadas/turismo-vuelos-internacionales-aeropuerto-el-dorado-278043.
November 1 may or may not turn out to be the date. Governments are reacting to events as they occur. It's difficult to plan because of it but the entire world is in uncharted waters. As we've seen, quite a bit can change in the span of six weeks. Let's keep our fingers crossed. Meanwhile, there are alternatives available now for those who are open to different destinations.
The news that it is November1st is not new. it has been reported several times already by Colombian agencies. Too many people are in denial that it will be at least November1st before tourist can enter.
The news that it is November1st is not new. it has been reported several times already by Colombian agencies. Too many people are in denial that it will be at least November1st before tourist can enter.Even November is a long shot for tourists. I'm getting my business visa, I hope they will let job creating investors into the country sometimes in September.
Hola SlapShot,
Well regarding Pereira and considering immigration needs, I offer my anecdotal experience. Late last year my application for a second tourist stamp wasn't getting approved nor denied. Three visits to the immigration office in Belen after filing for a new stamp, and all they would tell me was to wait and come back again in a week or whatever. When I was in Armenia (Quindio) for the holidays, I went to the immigration office there. Totally different vibe. The official actually investigated what the problem was and followed up and it was resolved the next morning. The official told me that the larger offices sometimes just ignore problems. So maybe you can get good service in the Periera office after all.
I can relate to your experience with the mess left behind by the workers. In your apartment where there is absolutely no chance in hell that there is anybody else is interested. It is more likely that Blakman pay 300 mil for a chica than there is someone who wants to move into your place in September. Anyways my fridge was broken (17 degrees c) for three weeks in July. Unbelievable how nobody will take ownership of a problem and fix it. Once some workers actually got here, the circus really started when they tried to remove the old fridge. It took them three visits until the new fridge was in and the old fridge was out, and there were two no-shows during that time. Unreal.
I took a lap around El Centro at 10 am today for the first time in about five weeks. I normally enjoy my time there and have been with several chicas there, but today I thought it was different. Parque Botero was barricaded closed, as was Parque Berrio and Parque de Bolivar. Berrio seemed very low on tinto girls. Not very dense with people. Strange vibe. Nobody even remotely appetizing to me.
Later in the afternoon, Lucy, the Parque Berrio tinto girl, who I did not see when I was there, hit me up on whatsapp. Maybe I'll have her over on Friday in the daytime. Like I have reported, she has a mom-bod but she in an incredible performer.
Tomorrow my Paisa-Paisa, 18-yo Alejandra is coming over. She is totally reliable and we always have an awesome time, and she loves to fuck. Her pussy is tight, she likes a little ass play, she squirts, she deep-throats. All that and, we get along great. She's cool as fuck. We don't text during the week except the day before when she texts me to confirm that we'll see each other, and then she texts me when she's on the way in the taxi that she calls. For those that want to know, I give her 200 k COP when she comes over. She's usually here for 4-5 hours.
I also have my girlfriend, who I met here in November. Yeah yeah, I've said it before, former cam girl, now she's a licensed professional in a STEM field. One day a week she comes to my place for the whole day, and once per week, I spend the night at her place. That's it. Perfect.
I ordered steak dinner (baby beef with asparagus and parmesan) from El Correo via Rappi tonight. Damn that was good. 50 k COP.
Here's a picture of El Poblado from my balcony, and a photo of Aleja's ass.
Cheers all.
PolloNegro
08-20-20, 14:56
I took a lap around El Centro at 10 am today for the first time in about five weeks. I normally enjoy my time there and have been with several chicas there, but today I thought it was different. Parque Botero was barricaded closed, as was Parque Berrio and Parque de Bolivar. Berrio seemed very low on tinto girls. Not very dense with people. Strange vibe. Nobody even remotely appetizing to me.
I really appreciate this post, because It comes from another BM and not me. I have been to Centro at least twice every week since July 15th and all I could see was how the Parque Botero was barricaded up. I just sat back and waited to see who would acknowledge that the parque was completely different. I am not stating that on certain days that the parque is not filled to the rim with girls, but the days that I happen to go down to centro, the vibe has been completely different. The girls are much more emaciated and the weight loss is evident.
I see so many BMs who are mentioning the hopes of returning to Medellin to monger, but I have yet to see anyone ask about the dangers of Medellin at the current time? Maybe it's because I spent so much time in Parque Botero and I know so many of the characters in the area, I can truly see the change in the people of Centro and Parque Botero. Many of these people are desperate and in survival mode.
You don't have to believe me or take heed, but a BM I feel that it is only right to make others aware of the dangers that have increased since the Pandemic started. Many of these girls have become more and more savvy to running schemes on foreigners and the risk of poisoning and robbing foreigners has went through the roof. I can handle my own in the streets, I grew up in some pretty rough areas, but when you are targeted because they know you are a foreigner, this is when you really have to be aware of everything that's going on around you.
For myself, what I can say Is this, I have pretty much been around the same people every day for the last 3 months. I haven't been sick, haven't had a cold, haven't ran a temp or any of those symptoms. If you are out in Poblado, the risk may be different, $300,000 pesos for a date, then the girls may not be swayed to carry out a robbery, but I wouldn't bet on it. My only concern is that those of you who have not been here through the Pandemic, please be cautious when you return. I guarantee that you'll see the difference when you do return. I know that you are thinking that they will love to earn some money and they will be less willing to rob you when you return, but stupidity has no limits.
If you are a one-time hit and quit, I would think that you might have a better experience, but if you like repeats or certain girls fit you recommendations, I would be careful with them in the future. I have seen with my own eyes girls who are blaming Americans for not being here to help them with their bills. They have no concept that the boarder is closed and they have no concept that not every gringo is going to run to western union to send money to Colombia to help them pay their bills. The entire time I have been here has been a great learning lesson for me. I have seen so many businesses closed down that it is hard for me to even take it all in.
With all of that being said, I still have girls who are hitting me up for sessions, but I live a good 12-20 minute each way from Centro and it has become a task to get there for a session when I have a girlfriend in house who bangs my brains out for absolutely nothing. When your mongering bill drops from a million to a million and a half pesos weekly down to about $600,000 pesos every two weeks, then reality sits in just how far money can go in this country if you're put in the right situation. If you are here in Medellin, be safe and keep your eyes open, if you're planning to return, have a plan established before you arrive to limit the events that make you vulnerable as a target. As always, Pollo Negro is Out.
P.S., I dropped 2 pics to compare 2 years ago with the today's Medellin scene.
November 1 may or may not turn out to be the date. Governments are reacting to events as they occur. It's difficult to plan because of it but the entire world is in uncharted waters. As we've seen, quite a bit can change in the span of six weeks. Let's keep our fingers crossed. Meanwhile, there are alternatives available now for those who are open to different destinations.It could be October / November. Nothing is set in stone, despite dates being thrown out there. Situations change and one cannot and should not assume that dates will only be pushed back. They can be moved up if a situation improves and agreements are made. With that said. Many executives of major airlines, hotel brands, travel agencies and tourism organizations came together to write a letter to the US administration requesting that travel restrictions be lifted and global tourism restart. These are all brands that everyone here recognizes, there were 106 signatures. What does this mean? The US has the ball right now, I always find it interesting how people read the news and make it seem like Americans are not wanted anywhere and our cases are so high etc etc. Then why are these airlines / hotels / travel agencies all pleading with the administration to take the lead and find the global standard that they can all work with and resume global travel? I said it before. Once the US lifts restrictions, watch those other countries follow suit. If I had to guess, early October is a reasonable date. A couple major airports in the USA are testing mass rapid testing on arrival for the last few weeks. This is a lot more politics + economics than one realizes, even the world knows that global travel must resume considering this virus has a morality rate that is incredibly low. Hey, I could be completely wrong. But I do not think so. This glass is half full.
ElJefe7010
08-20-20, 15:26
It could be October / November. Nothing is set in stone, despite dates being thrown out there. Situations change and one cannot and should not assume that dates will only be pushed back. They can be moved up if a situation improves and agreements are made. With that said. Many executives of major airlines, hotel brands, travel agencies and tourism organizations came together to write a letter to the US administration requesting that travel restrictions be lifted and global tourism restart. These are all brands that everyone here recognizes, there were 106 signatures. What does this mean? The US has the ball right now, I always find it interesting how people read the news and make it seem like Americans are not wanted anywhere and our cases are so high etc etc. Then why are these airlines / hotels / travel agencies all pleading with the administration to take the lead and find the global standard that they can all work with and resume global travel? I said it before. Once the US lifts restrictions, watch those other countries follow suit. If I had to guess, early October is a reasonable date. A couple major airports in the USA are testing mass rapid testing on arrival for the last few weeks. This is a lot more politics + economics than one realizes, even the world knows that global travel must resume considering this virus has a morality rate that is incredibly low. Hey, I could be completely wrong. But I do not think so. This glass is half full.You are absolutely correct. I don't understand why people speak in absolutes. The below article dated yesterday that Colombia are in talks with the US with September still being a possibility for international travel to resume.
https://www.colombia.com/turismo/noticias/turismo-vuelos-internacionales-mantiene-septiembre-reinicio-278149
SlapShot10
08-20-20, 17:29
Here's a picture of El Poblado from my balcony, and a photo of Aleja's ass.
Omaha! Omaha! Nice pic, Lugger.
How many units are on each floor in your building. I was just staring at it, 5 mins ago, from my balcony. I saw a rental listing in your building on Casacol's website, yesterday, I think. Last week, your downstairs neighbor on the floor above the pool was tanning on her balcony in a brazilian cut bikini, during the late-morning sun.
The SA freebie was amazing, again, last night. On her knees on the tiled kitchen floor while I made dinner. Deep-throating, orgasming, etc etc. , all sin condon. The only problem is, at the end of the night, she says, "Me encantas" in bed, then says, "Me gustas" and just waits. And waits. And waits. And then gets pissed. Then asks me how many girls I see each week. She was cool when she left, today, but that's the issue with her.
Looks like I am hosting ex-Wifey's bday party, tomorrow night, with her / our favorite. The tongue-ringed little sexpot that sneaks away from her girlfriend to join us. It's the big 1-9 for ex-Wifey, so she's two years away from being dead to SJobs.
For myself, what I can say Is this, I have pretty much been around the same people every day for the last 3 months. I haven't been sick, haven't had a cold, haven't ran a temp or any of those symptoms. If you are out in Poblado, the risk may be different, $300,000 pesos for a date, then the girls may not be swayed to carry out a robbery, but I wouldn't bet on it. My only concern is that those of you who have not been here through the Pandemic, please be cautious when you return. I guarantee that you'll see the difference when you do return. I know that you are thinking that they will love to earn some money and they will be less willing to rob you when you return, but stupidity has no limits.A guy on the Medellin expat facebook group reported last week that he was robbed. Had a 18 yo tinder girl over to his apartment in Laureles for a date. He said that he cooked dinner and was having a great time and she was singing Beatles songs, his favorite, and next thing, he woke up the following afternoon. His laptop, tablet, cellular, and cash were all gone. Yes, be careful.
Even November is a long shot for tourists. I'm getting my business visa, I hope they will let job creating investors into the country sometimes in September.Colombia for me is now on the back burner.
Headed to Rio via Sao Paulo in a couple weeks!
Getting it all lined up now; ensuring Brazil medical insurance coverage (their government requirement for entry), hotel or AirBB, girl friend, amigas, etc.
SA Fun again!
Colombia for me is now on the back burner.
Headed to Rio via Sao Paulo in a couple weeks!
Getting it all lined up now; ensuring Brazil medical insurance coverage (their government requirement for entry), hotel or AirBB, girl friend, amigas, etc.
SA Fun again!.Awesome. I'm looking forward to your reports in Rio forum.
A guy on the Medellin expat facebook group reported last week that he was robbed. Had a 18 yo tinder girl over to his apartment in Laureles for a date. He said that he cooked dinner and was having a great time and she was singing Beatles songs, his favorite, and next thing, he woke up the following afternoon. His laptop, tablet, cellular, and cash were all gone. Yes, be careful.I'm surprised she wasn't singing this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b21-NCfNzM
SeanWilkds
08-20-20, 22:42
I live pretty near Botero, and pass by there pretty frequently, very seldom take girls from there, but there are a few that appear only sporadically and are pretty attractive. I think the vibe is sort of on and off. There are days, when there are a lot of people hanging out and to me there is a good vibe. It's true there are a lot of run down girls, and definitely some needy desperate types, but to me that has always been the case.
At the moment the scene a block away underneath the metro is hopping with coffee girls. Most of them contrary to my previous experiences are dressed quite nicely this week, quite a few in new dresses, with proper make up, and even a few with freshly styled hair as well. Made me actually wonder how they are managing, because previously it seemed they were even less established than the botero girls, and generally looking pretty rough and homely. Anyways, at least worth swinging by if you are in the neighbourhood and just passing time.
I really appreciate this post, because It comes from another BM and not me. I have been to Centro at least twice every week since July 15th and all I could see was how the Parque Botero was barricaded up. I just sat back and waited to see who would acknowledge that the parque was completely different. I am not stating that on certain days that the parque is not filled to the rim with girls, but the days that I happen to go down to centro, the vibe has been completely different. The girls are much more emaciated and the weight loss is evident.
I see so many BMs who are mentioning the hopes of returning to Medellin to monger, but I have yet to see anyone ask about the dangers of Medellin at the current time? Maybe it's because I spent so much time in Parque Botero and I know so many of the characters in the area, I can truly see the change in the people of Centro and Parque Botero. Many of these people are desperate and in survival mode.
You don't have to believe me or take heed, but a BM I feel that it is only right to make others aware of the dangers that have increased since the Pandemic started. Many of these girls have become more and more savvy to running schemes on foreigners and the risk of poisoning and robbing foreigners has went through the roof. I can handle my own in the streets, I grew up in some pretty rough areas, but when you are targeted because they know you are a foreigner, this is when you really have to be aware of everything that's going on around you.
For myself, what I can say Is this, I have pretty much been around the same people every day for the last 3 months. I haven't been sick, haven't had a cold, haven't ran a temp or any of those symptoms. If you are out in Poblado, the risk may be different, $300,000 pesos for a date, then the girls may not be swayed to carry out a robbery, but I wouldn't bet on it. My only concern is that those of you who have not been here through the Pandemic, please be cautious when you return. I guarantee that you'll see the difference when you do return. I know that you are thinking that they will love to earn some money and they will be less willing to rob you when you return, but stupidity has no limits..
must resume considering this virus has a morality rate that is incredibly low. Hey, I could be completely wrong. But I do not think so. This glass is half full.I think it depends what is your definition of morality rate.
If you use this formula.
Morality rate x total infected cases = total death.
You get larger "total death" number if you have a larger a "total infected cases".
If you read the news about Vietnam's current outbreak, they think they have a new strain that double or triple the old infection rate.
A guy on the Medellin expat facebook group reported last week that he was robbed. Had a 18 yo tinder girl over to his apartment in Laureles for a date. He said that he cooked dinner and was having a great time and she was singing Beatles songs, his favorite, and next thing, he woke up the following afternoon. His laptop, tablet, cellular, and cash were all gone. Yes, be careful.I take it he was in a building with no reception to take girls' IDs (and better yet, to call you when she's leaving)?
This shit will happen to you if you aren't smart.
Black Page
08-21-20, 00:40
I take it he was in a building with no reception to take girls' IDs (and better yet, to call you when she's leaving)?
This shit will happen to you if you aren't smart.Never heard of counterfeited IDs? Or stolen with old photo, similar to the face of the girl presenting it?
Hey Pollo,
You should have gotten a picture of the young guy who has been sleeping on the steps of the hotel since March. He adopted it as his home.
I really appreciate this post, because It comes from another BM and not me. I have been to Centro at least twice every week since July 15th and all I could see was how the Parque Botero was barricaded up. I just sat back and waited to see who would acknowledge that the parque was completely different. I am not stating that on certain days that the parque is not filled to the rim with girls, but the days that I happen to go down to centro, the vibe has been completely different. The girls are much more emaciated and the weight loss is evident.
I see so many BMs who are mentioning the hopes of returning to Medellin to monger, but I have yet to see anyone ask about the dangers of Medellin at the current time? Maybe it's because I spent so much time in Parque Botero and I know so many of the characters in the area, I can truly see the change in the people of Centro and Parque Botero. Many of these people are desperate and in survival mode.
You don't have to believe me or take heed, but a BM I feel that it is only right to make others aware of the dangers that have increased since the Pandemic started. Many of these girls have become more and more savvy to running schemes on foreigners and the risk of poisoning and robbing foreigners has went through the roof. I can handle my own in the streets, I grew up in some pretty rough areas, but when you are targeted because they know you are a foreigner, this is when you really have to be aware of everything that's going on around you..
The point that Combo is making is that there is more security with places that have a desk and electronically check cedulas. I have had girls turned away from seeing me because of either no cedula or a fake one. Photos are made of the ID and a call is made to your room when she is trying to leave.
Never heard of counterfeited IDs? Or stolen with old photo, similar to the face of the girl presenting it?
I think I can explain. We are living in a time of great uncertainty. It makes some people very uncomfortable to not know what will happen next, especially people who live their lives according to the expectations and rules of others. Speaking in absolutes and using authoritative language to express what in reality is unknown gives them comfort and a feeling of control.
You are absolutely correct. I don't understand why people speak in absolutes. The below article dated yesterday that Colombia are in talks with the US with September still being a possibility for international travel to resume.
https://www.colombia.com/turismo/noticias/turismo-vuelos-internacionales-mantiene-septiembre-reinicio-278149
The point that Combo is making is that there is more security with places that have a desk and electronically check cedulas. I have had girls turned away from seeing me because of either no cedula or a fake one. Photos are made of the ID and a call is made to your room when she is trying to leave.Regardless of the level of security, you can never ever let your guard down, never. When you least expect it, shit happens. There's been numerous board members posts about what has happened to them, from being drugged, and being robbed at gun-point which was my experience.
The Facebook post was a classic, if the guy had locked all his valuables in the apartments security box, he may have woken up not missing so much stuff from his apartment.
Very few apartments have Porteros that electronically check Cedulas, let alone even check Cedulas, or even call you when somebody departs, unless it's a "known" building for mongers.
So without this extra layer of protection, which is very rare, one has to be even more cautious.
You are absolutely correct. I don't understand why people speak in absolutes. The below article dated yesterday that Colombia are in talks with the US with September still being a possibility for international travel to resume.
https://www.colombia.com/turismo/noticias/turismo-vuelos-internacionales-mantiene-septiembre-reinicio-278149This is the most encouraging post I have ever seen on this thread. Thank you!
Colombia for me is now on the back burner.
Headed to Rio via Sao Paulo in a couple weeks!
Getting it all lined up now; ensuring Brazil medical insurance coverage (their government requirement for entry), hotel or AirBB, girl friend, amigas, etc.
SA Fun again! 😉I'm still hoping for September, I'm willing to go extraordinary distance to get back in Medellin, as long as they open the border. If they announce that the border will be shut until next year, then I will look for other places to go, if I can go to Brazil from the US, it will be my second choice. Please keep us post on the situation in Brazil. Enjoy your time there!
The point that Combo is making is that there is more security with places that have a desk and electronically check cedulas. I have had girls turned away from seeing me because of either no cedula or a fake one. Photos are made of the ID and a call is made to your room when she is trying to leave.I take it a lot of guys that live there live in buildings without security desks. In that case it would be better to meet the girl at a Love Motel, with some security that likely beats nothing, but better yet you only bring what you plan to spend and a cheap phone. This takes away a lot of the incentive to rob.
I think it depends what is your definition of morality rate.
If you use this formula.
Morality rate x total infected cases = total death.
You get larger "total death" number if you have a larger a "total infected cases".
If you read the news about Vietnam's current outbreak, they think they have a new strain that double or triple the old infection rate.I think you are talking about mortality rate. The "morality" rate among us BM's is probably 0 if judged by a group of old biddies.
SlapShot10
08-21-20, 17:06
I haven't been following this, as I'm in Heaven, with no need to keep tabs, but...
I saw a post and article about Costa Rica opening their doors to US citizens from 6 Northeastern states, starting Sep 1. Read into, twist, ignore, as you please.
Maybe it's an indicator, maybe it's an option, maybe it's bullshit. I don't know.
https://qcostarica.com/flights-from-u-s-allowed-starting-sept-1/?fbclid=IwAR2xFHHmawO-4SrMEFQO9svGTLWipGDFmdQ7bC-0grzLJBEpv7SkGfxhAoY
Would be interesting if Colombia follows suit. I don't see the importance of demanding you pay for health insurance. I guess they trying to keep my cheapy Charley ass out the country LOL.
I haven't been following this, as I'm in Heaven, with no need to keep tabs, but...
I saw a post and article about Costa Rica opening their doors to US citizens from 6 Northeastern states, starting Sep 1. Read into, twist, ignore, as you please.
Maybe it's an indicator, maybe it's an option, maybe it's bullshit. I don't know.
https://qcostarica.com/flights-from-u-s-allowed-starting-sept-1/?fbclid=IwAR2xFHHmawO-4SrMEFQO9svGTLWipGDFmdQ7bC-0grzLJBEpv7SkGfxhAoY.
Tell them you tell the security guard everything. Transaction and agreement. Say you do so if theres any problems the security guard knows info ahead of time and will handle any issues. I swear this tactic allowed me to avoid a few possible issues. For newbies I think Colombia is a less problematic compared to thailand or Dominican republic. Unless for 4 months I just got lucky. But I felt extremely safe. Yes be alert at all times.
Regardless of the level of security, you can never ever let your guard down, never. When you least expect it, shit happens. There's been numerous board members posts about what has happened to them, from being drugged, and being robbed at gun-point which was my experience.
The Facebook post was a classic, if the guy had locked all his valuables in the apartments security box, he may have woken up not missing so much stuff from his apartment.
Very few apartments have Porteros that electronically check Cedulas, let alone even check Cedulas, or even call you when somebody departs, unless it's a "known" building for mongers.
So without this extra layer of protection, which is very rare, one has to be even more cautious..
JamesPearle
08-21-20, 19:07
Screw her before you cook her dinner.
A guy on the Medellin expat facebook group reported last week that he was robbed. Had a 18 yo tinder girl over to his apartment in Laureles for a date. He said that he cooked dinner and was having a great time and she was singing Beatles songs, his favorite, and next thing, he woke up the following afternoon. His laptop, tablet, cellular, and cash were all gone. Yes, be careful.
Tell them you tell the security guard everything. Transaction and agreement. Say you do so if theres any problems the security guard knows info ahead of time and will handle any issues. I swear this tactic allowed me to avoid a few possible issues. For newbies I think Colombia is a less problematic compared to thailand or Dominican republic. Unless for 4 months I just got lucky. But I felt extremely safe. Yes be alert at all times.
.I do this. In addition to requesting that the doorman calls me when the chica leaves (if it's not already Bldg policy), I also tell the chicas that there is video of them entering and leaving the building.
You can minimize your risks greatly if you follow some common sense routines.
Seems to me a bit odd of a story that you will tell security guard the terms of your agreement. I have never heard of such a thing and I would not want to partake. Not to mention the women I know would find it strange as well. My girls first have to pass security check. Once that is done, I get called on whether to let her go up to see me.
Once I give my ok she sees me. Sometimes for a couple of hours or they stay the night of leave whenever. When they leave, I get called, she is not allowed to leave until I pick up and say it is ok. I keep my valuables locked up except the cash I am going to pay with Simple as that.
Tell them you tell the security guard everything. Transaction and agreement. Say you do so if theres any problems the security guard knows info ahead of time and will handle any issues. I swear this tactic allowed me to avoid a few possible issues. For newbies I think Colombia is a less problematic compared to thailand or Dominican republic. Unless for 4 months I just got lucky. But I felt extremely safe. Yes be alert at all times.
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Regardless of the level of security, you can never ever let your guard down, never. When you least expect it, shit happens. There's been numerous board members posts about what has happened to them, from being drugged, and being robbed at gun-point which was my experience.
The Facebook post was a classic, if the guy had locked all his valuables in the apartments security box, he may have woken up not missing so much stuff from his apartment.
Very few apartments have Porteros that electronically check Cedulas, let alone even check Cedulas, or even call you when somebody departs, unless it's a "known" building for mongers.
So without this extra layer of protection, which is very rare, one has to be even more cautious.I agree. I would add that vetting the girls is also very important. For new girls, I try to get a sense of their attitude and behavior before I commit to a crazy tussi infused all night party. I'm in my 30's and I manage people for a living, if I can't correctly read a few 18-year-olds and keep them inline, then I deserve to be robbed. But I also keep things that I absolutely can't afford to lose (passport, extra debit cards, a few thousand dollars, my work MacBook Pro, a backup iPhone, spare sim, and an extra iPad) in a safe that is not in my apartment.
I always try to avoid interacting my doorman with chicas, especially when I'm staying at a place for more than 3 weeks. I try to maintain a good reputation with my neighbors and I sometimes have my local friends come to visit me, I don't want my doorman blow the whistle on me. I do tip them well, just in case. After reading some of the posts here, I guess it is futile to hide my hobby, I should just buy off my doorman and develop a mutual understanding.
I didn't say I tell the security guard.
I tell the chica that I tell the security guard
Seems to me a bit odd of a story that you will tell security guard the terms of your agreement. I have never heard of such a thing and I would not want to partake. Not to mention the women I know would find it strange as well. My girls first have to pass security check. Once that is done, I get called on whether to let her go up to see me.
Once I give my ok she sees me. Sometimes for a couple of hours or they stay the night of leave whenever. When they leave, I get called, she is not allowed to leave until I pick up and say it is ok. I keep my valuables locked up except the cash I am going to pay with Simple as that.
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I know what you meant. I find it strange and I wonder how many girls actually believe that line? Maybe it is just me but has long as I know security is doing their job and I am taking proper precautions with my valuables, I am fine. Most of my girls are repeat performers and they vary how long they actually stay. Like Charlie Sheen said. " I pay for them to keave". Whatever makes you comfortable, if you feel you need to make up a story like that and think they believe you go right ahead.
I didn't say I tell the security guard.
I tell the chica that I tell the security guard
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Like Charlie Sheen said. " I pay for them to keave". It's all good because they want to go anyway, but of course after being paid for their services. LOL.
Elvis 2008
08-22-20, 02:18
Screw her before you cook her dinner.Is that you don't play can't buy me love. It gives women the wrong idea.
The Tall Man
08-22-20, 05:30
I really appreciate this post, because It comes from another BM and not me. I have been to Centro at least twice every week since July 15th and all I could see was how the Parque Botero was barricaded up. I just sat back and waited to see who would acknowledge that the parque was completely different. I am not stating that on certain days that the parque is not filled to the rim with girls, but the days that I happen to go down to centro, the vibe has been completely different. The girls are much more emaciated and the weight loss is evident.
I see so many BMs who are mentioning the hopes of returning to Medellin to monger, but I have yet to see anyone ask about the dangers of Medellin at the current time? Maybe it's because I spent so much time in Parque Botero and I know so many of the characters in the area, I can truly see the change in the people of Centro and Parque Botero. Many of these people are desperate and in survival mode.
You don't have to believe me or take heed, but a BM I feel that it is only right to make others aware of the dangers that have increased since the Pandemic started. Many of these girls have become more and more savvy to running schemes on foreigners and the risk of poisoning and robbing foreigners has went through the roof. I can handle my own in the streets, I grew up in some pretty rough areas, but when you are targeted because they know you are a foreigner, this is when you really have to be aware of everything that's going on around you.
For myself, what I can say Is this, I have pretty much been around the same people every day for the last 3 months. I haven't been sick, haven't had a cold, haven't ran a temp or any of those symptoms. If you are out in Poblado, the risk may be different, $300,000 pesos for a date, then the girls may not be swayed to carry out a robbery, but I wouldn't bet on it. My only concern is that those of you who have not been here through the Pandemic, please be cautious when you return. I guarantee that you'll see the difference when you do return. I know that you are thinking that they will love to earn some money and they will be less willing to rob you when you return, but stupidity has no limits..PN. Is the Botero hotel shuttered for good? Wow sad.
I need to check it out this weekend and see for myself, what a shame as it was a decent place with great prices and very flexible with the visiting chicas.
The Tall Man.
Black Page
08-22-20, 06:26
I think you are talking about mortality rate. The "morality" rate among us BM's is probably 0 if judged by a group of old biddies.NOW I understand all this discussion! I have been wondering for a while WTF was all this fuss about a supposed MORALITY rate here.
PN. Is the Botero hotel shuttered for good? Wow sad.
I need to check it out this weekend and see for myself, what a shame as it was a decent place with great prices and very flexible with the visiting chicas.
The Tall Man.Yeah I don't know where to go now. Want to be a very short walk to Conejitas and Barra Ejectiva but someplace nice enough to not scare away the FaseDos / Facebook chicks. Hot water, nice size bed, fridge etc with preferably a view. I wish Hotel Nutibara was more chica friendly, perfect location.
Hotel de greiff (above Conejitas) and the Normandy (next to barra Ejectiva) both look a little run down / roach motel for my taste. And Hotel Capitolio and next door Hotel Cristal behind Catedral Baslica Metropolitana (the big brick church at Parque Boliva) both share a pool but they look a long scary walk back from the 2 clubs after midnight and not sure their chica policy.
Anybody ever stayed at Davinchi Suite's (Cra. 51 #53 93) under the Metro?
Ambassador Medellin looks nice with a pool on the roof (Cra 50,54-50) but does not look like it might be chica friendly. Anybody been there?
Other suggestions for somewhat nice chica friendly Centro hotel close to the clubs?
I think it depends what is your definition of morality rate.
If you use this formula.
Morality rate x total infected cases = total death.
You get larger "total death" number if you have a larger a "total infected cases".
If you read the news about Vietnam's current outbreak, they think they have a new strain that double or triple the old infection rate.One common issue I have noticed is that people look at mortality rate as being total numbers of deaths / total number of cases. It seems to be forgotten or ignored, that many people have already been infected and recovered. The CDC says the actual number of infected is 10 x what the current numbers are. Depending on the various studies out there, it ranges around 6 x up to 20 x on the high side and in the USA It really varies between the states. I have it around 9 x on the low side and up to 14 x on the high side. Let's take the CDC figure.
Total number of cases = 5. 8 million. Total deaths = 179,000. If you use only these two variables, the mortality rate is 3%. Using this is inaccurate. If you go with what the CDC estimates as actual infected, the mortality rate comes out to 0. 3%. If the actual number of infected is higher than 10 x then the fatality rate is even lower. Again, my glass is half full. Now let's get back to mongering discussions.
ConscienceDoc
08-22-20, 22:04
I wasn't too concerned. What's a pregnancy test going to tell me that I can't find out 10 days later by a period? Either way, it's not a Plan B scenario. I'm typically in no rush for bad news..Good friend is from Pereira and told me its a great town with pretty things. TBH I never been but its on my list. Based on what my friend has told me and what I've heard through the grapevine I would give it a shot, excuse the pun. Best of Luck.
Incrociatore
08-23-20, 00:53
Hi there,
I'm new here and I have a lot of questions.
1) Are the prices on photoprepagos in Colombian Peso? When I read 100.000 or 100, is it about $26.27?
2) Are there other websites that I should visit?
3) My time is valuable and I'm not willing to spend any time to get free pussy. I'm willing to pay what I have to pay. Is Tinder a valuable option to get very attractive girls at a good rate or are there much better options?
4) Is it better to rent an apartment on AirBnb or to get an hotel?
5) How long can I stay with a tourist Visa? Can I buy an open ticket and come back after 2 or 3 months? The idea is to take a week of holidays and then work there remotely. I have been working remotely since COVID-19, so it doesn't really matter where I'm.
6) I have been a couple of times in Cuba and I had a great time with girls. First time I was much younger and I had two girls for free. Sex is almost always great there. Girls are hot, and they love sex. Is the same in Colombia? What does include a standard performance? OWO? DFK? I'm only interested in girlfriend experience. For me, sex without kisses is not sex.
7) I'm planning to travel with a Transferwise card, which I recharge, and get the money from the ATM. I'm worried about the laptop and the phone. Is secure to leave the laptop in the apartment / hotel room when I'm going out? Should I buy a cheap Android phone to use with a local sim card, and leave my iPhone in the hotel?
8) I do not wear expensive stuff or jewelry, and I usually keep a low profile. If I get robbed, are they going to take my credit card, or most likely just the money and the phone, eventually?
9) I'm interested in girls. Which city is better, Medellin or Bogota?
10) Which is the price for a top girl for an hour?
11) Is Brasil the only alternative if Colombia doesn't reopen the borders?
I've never been but from the chicka's I have on SA and FB, the ones from Pereira are stunning. I'm sure any BM that goes could find something memorable.
Good friend is from Pereira and told me its a great town with pretty things. TBH I never been but its on my list. Based on what my friend has told me and what I've heard through the grapevine I would give it a shot, excuse the pun. Best of Luck.I've been to Pereira 8 times. Mainly as a take off spot to go to the spa / baths at Santa Rosa de Cabal. A short bus ride away. Pereira is a safe town and easy to walk around. Population 500,000. Some good eateries if you know where to go. They have some 24 HR. Cafeterias with good food. The zoo isn't bad. Cabs are cheap, BUT.
The mongering opportunities are limited. Some hit or miss streetwalkers at different parques. A few good bars w chicas, some night spots. But that's about it. To me Pereira is good for 3-4 days. Then its time to move on.
ColombiaLover
08-23-20, 01:48
I have been visiting Colombia for over 15 years. And the one thing I have never been able to figure out is why prostitution is so open and available in some places, but not in others (most others).
I always knew that Medellin was a place for hookers (and also for chicas who were only interested in your money). My ex-wife (from Bogota) used to talk about it all of the time. And then of course you have Cartagena, which is understandable because its a tourist town. And you have it in Bogota, but Bogota is a place where so many chicas come from somewhere else to work.
So why is it that Santa Marta, San Andres, Manizales, Pereira, Armenia, Bucaramanga and even Cali have so much less P4 P? It's not like most of these are "small towns" where girls do not want to work for fear that their family or friends will discover what they do. Or maybe it's the chicken or the egg issue, where maybe there are not enough customers who will pay decently (I. E. , primarily foreigners) to bother trying to open a casa or strip club. Maybe it's just culture? I love Medellin, but I really wish there were more options in some of the other cities. I want to see them, but if it comes down to banging or sightseeing, I chose banging every time.
Any thoughts or opinions?
I've never been but from the chicka's I have on SA and FB, the ones from Pereira are stunning. I'm sure any BM that goes could find something memorable. Pereira has a reputation for hot, horny women. I think it's called the cradle of prepagos or something like that.
I have been visiting Colombia for over 15 years. And the one thing I have never been able to figure out is why prostitution is so open and available in some places, but not in others (most others).
I always knew that Medellin was a place for hookers (and also for chicas who were only interested in your money). My ex-wife (from Bogota) used to talk about it all of the time. And then of course you have Cartagena, which is understandable because its a tourist town. And you have it in Bogota, but Bogota is a place where so many chicas come from somewhere else to work.
So why is it that Santa Marta, San Andres, Manizales, Pereira, Armenia, Bucaramanga and even Cali have so much less P4 P? It's not like most of these are "small towns" where girls do not want to work for fear that their family or friends will discover what they do. Or maybe it's the chicken or the egg issue, where maybe there are not enough customers who will pay decently (I. E. , primarily foreigners) to bother trying to open a casa or strip club. Maybe it's just culture? I love Medellin, but I really wish there were more options in some of the other cities. I want to see them, but if it comes down to banging or sightseeing, I chose banging every time.
Any thoughts or opinions?So much less P4P besides Medellin, Bogota, and Cartagena. Not sure if there really is so much less based on population of the other places you have mentioned. As an example, for my mongering style which is the street versus clubs, FB, and Tinder I found quite a bit of availability in Santa Marta, hence my bet is that the numbers of girls working the streets might be comparable compared to Medellin based on population alone. I also found the same to be true in Cucuta as well. However for guys that want just casa's and clubs, well your thoughts make sense in that your options are much more limited besides the three major Cities you mentioned.
Yeah I don't know where to go now. Want to be a very short walk to Conejitas and Barra Ejectiva but someplace nice enough to not scare away the FaseDos / Facebook chicks. Hot water, nice size bed, fridge etc with preferably a view. I wish Hotel Nutibara was more chica friendly, perfect location.
Hotel de greiff (above Conejitas) and the Normandy (next to barra Ejectiva) both look a little run down / roach motel for my taste. And Hotel Capitolio and next door Hotel Cristal behind Catedral Baslica Metropolitana (the big brick church at Parque Boliva) both share a pool but they look a long scary walk back from the 2 clubs after midnight and not sure their chica policy.
Anybody ever stayed at Davinchi Suite's (Cra. 51 #53 93) under the Metro?
Ambassador Medellin looks nice with a pool on the roof (Cra 50,54-50) but does not look like it might be chica friendly. Anybody been there?
Other suggestions for somewhat nice chica friendly Centro hotel close to the clubs?Has the Hotel Deseos across the street from the Hotel Botero closed? Guys have moved there from the Hotel Botero. Rooms a little run down also. You might want to check out some of the rooms at these places, you may find one you like.
ColombiaLover
08-23-20, 05:23
I've never had a lot of luck with Tinder in Medellin, not that I've tried very hard. But I do enjoy flipping through the fotos to see if I can find some gems. While there are definitely some pretty girls on Tinder, I have noticed lately that some of the best looking "chicas" are the transgenders! Thank goodness most of them identify themselves as trans (don't want any surprises). But I give most of them credit for doing everything they can to look the part. Clothes, make-up. If you use Tinder, just a warning to be sure you read when they have written BEFORE you swipe solely based on looks.
One common issue I have noticed is that people look at mortality rate as being total numbers of deaths / total number of cases. It seems to be forgotten or ignored, that many people have already been infected and recovered. The CDC says the actual number of infected is 10 x what the current numbers are. Depending on the various studies out there, it ranges around 6 x up to 20 x on the high side and in the USA It really varies between the states. I have it around 9 x on the low side and up to 14 x on the high side. Let's take the CDC figure.
Total number of cases = 5. 8 million. Total deaths = 179,000. If you use only these two variables, the mortality rate is 3%. Using this is inaccurate. If you go with what the CDC estimates as actual infected, the mortality rate comes out to 0. 3%. If the actual number of infected is higher than 10 x then the fatality rate is even lower. Again, my glass is half full. Now let's get back to mongering discussions.Sorry, but total deaths per total cases is simply a measure of a country's healthcare system. The US fares pretty well.
The best measure is deaths per capita. The US fares poorly by this measure.
SlapShot10
08-23-20, 15:57
Good friend is from Pereira and told me its a great town with pretty things. TBH I never been but its on my list. Based on what my friend has told me and what I've heard through the grapevine I would give it a shot, excuse the pun. Best of Luck.
I've never been but from the chicka's I have on SA and FB, the ones from Pereira are stunning. I'm sure any BM that goes could find something memorable.
I've been to Pereira 8 times. Mainly as a take off spot to go to the spa / baths at Santa Rosa de Cabal. A short bus ride away. Pereira is a safe town and easy to walk around. Population 500,000. Some good eateries if you know where to go. They have some 24 HR. Cafeterias with good food. The zoo isn't bad. Cabs are cheap, BUT.
The mongering opportunities are limited. Some hit or miss streetwalkers at different parques. A few good bars w chicas, some night spots. But that's about it. To me Pereira is good for 3-4 days. Then its time to move on.
Pereira has a reputation for hot, horny women. I think it's called the cradle of prepagos or something like that.
Thanks for the info / thoughts, boys. I just spent an hour creating a short list of fincas / apartments and messaging some SA girls in Pereira for guidance. I'm stuck in between the reviews of BayBoy & Luminus. I'm sure it would be worth a week trip in normal times, but how many of the things BayBoy listed are open, now? On the other hand, the talent looks very good on SA. I'm starting to think maybe a 7-8 day trip, and stay in a modern finca with pool / jacuzzi, instead of staying in what would be the hotspot in normal times. I'll be working, daily, but just like in MDE, I don't want to be spending 2 hours a day on SA / Tinder. Maybe I can find a girl that will provide a Wifey / Pinky-like experience. Stay with me for a few days, bisexual, young, hot, and fun. She can take her selfies, or work, or whatever while I do my thing, then have some fun in the evenings. Another option would be to invite Wifey or Pinky. That way, half the threesome is already accounted for, and I don't need to spend a week trying to find a live-in. However, I don't think that's the option I'll choose. Bringing sand to the beach. Not my style. I'm going to explore the girls of Pereira. If it was San Andres, I'd definitely consider bringing one of them, or both. I'll update everyone with any good information I receive from the girls I reached out to, just in case anyone else is considering the same.
I had another great trio with Wifey and her flame, the other night. I spent about $100 on decorations and gifts. I made steaks, and some Aperol Spritzes that weren't even close to finished. Right back to the Smirnoff Ice for these girls. Wifey loved it. She was crying in the jacuzzi about how the last time she came over, she got all dressed up, and I started watching tv. Then, she went into the office to charge her phone, and she saw the notes / post-its she put on the window were all taken down. She got sad and left. She said she's been missing me, etc. It was nice to have her over, and I was pounding her all morning after her friend left at 6a (200k propina). I felt bad for her. She left me get one more in around 4p when she was leaving. Neither of them remember bikinis, so luckily, I had a few on-hand. There was a new one from the same company that I bought a few for Wifey. She wasn't too thrilled about it. She asked if I've been seeing a lot of girls, if I have seen Pinky, if I bought the bikini for Pinky, etc. She didn't get mad, but I was telling her we can talk about it another time if she wants. The 10a construction outside my balcony was not awesome.
Thanks for the info / thoughts, boys. I just spent an hour creating a short list of fincas / apartments and messaging some SA girls in Pereira for guidance. I'm stuck in between the reviews of BayBoy & Luminus. I'm sure it would be worth a week trip in normal times, but how many of the things BayBoy listed are open, now? On the other hand, the talent looks very good on SA. I'm starting to think maybe a 7-8 day trip, and stay in a modern finca with pool / jacuzzi, instead of staying in what would be the hotspot in normal times. I'll be working, daily, but just like in MDE, I don't want to be spending 2 hours a day on SA / Tinder. Maybe I can find a girl that will provide a Wifey / Pinky-like experience. Stay with me for a few days, bisexual, young, hot, and fun. She can take her selfies, or work, or whatever while I do my thing, then have some fun in the evenings. Another option would be to invite Wifey or Pinky. That way, half the threesome is already accounted for, and I don't need to spend a week trying to find a live-in. However, I don't think that's the option I'll choose. Bringing sand to the beach. Not my style. I'm going to explore the girls of Pereira. If it was San Andres, I'd definitely consider bringing one of them, or both. I'll update everyone with any good information I receive from the girls I reached out to, just in case anyone else is considering the same.
I had another great trio with Wifey and her flame, the other night. I spent about $100 on decorations and gifts. I made steaks, and some Aperol Spritzes that weren't even close to finished. Right back to the Smirnoff Ice for these girls. Wifey loved it. She was crying in the jacuzzi about how the last time she came over, she got all dressed up, and I started watching tv. Then, she went into the office to charge her phone, and she saw the notes / post-its she put on the window were all taken down. She got sad and left. She said she's been missing me, etc. It was nice to have her over, and I was pounding her all morning after her friend left at 6a (200k propina). I felt bad for her. She left me get one more in around 4p when she was leaving. Neither of them remember bikinis, so luckily, I had a few on-hand. There was a new one from the same company that I bought a few for Wifey. She wasn't too thrilled about it. She asked if I've been seeing a lot of girls,..........You're living the life man.
I have been visiting Colombia for over 15 years. And the one thing I have never been able to figure out is why prostitution is so open and available in some places, but not in others (most others).
I always knew that Medellin was a place for hookers (and also for chicas who were only interested in your money). My ex-wife (from Bogota) used to talk about it all of the time. And then of course you have Cartagena, which is understandable because its a tourist town. And you have it in Bogota, but Bogota is a place where so many chicas come from somewhere else to work.
So why is it that Santa Marta, San Andres, Manizales, Pereira, Armenia, Bucaramanga and even Cali have so much less P4 P? It's not like most of these are "small towns" where girls do not want to work for fear that their family or friends will discover what they do. Or maybe it's the chicken or the egg issue, where maybe there are not enough customers who will pay decently (I. E. , primarily foreigners) to bother trying to open a casa or strip club. Maybe it's just culture? I love Medellin, but I really wish there were more options in some of the other cities. I want to see them, but if it comes down to banging or sightseeing, I chose banging every time.
Any thoughts or opinions?Women in Medellin are much more vain about their looks and dressing well and being made up than women in other cities like Cali for example. They also have a greater desire for the finer things in life such as jewelry, latest phone, etc. over and beyond the necessities of life, the necessities of life being the major concern of women in most other cities. That's a recipe for women going into p6 in a place where income from traditional sources is modest.
SonicBoom1
08-23-20, 17:40
You're living the life man.100% agree. This is a life people want in their fantasy, few come even close to it. How old are you BTW, and what is your general fitness level?
More pics please, slapshot!
The Tall Man
08-23-20, 17:44
Good friend is from Pereira and told me its a great town with pretty things. TBH I never been but its on my list. Based on what my friend has told me and what I've heard through the grapevine I would give it a shot, excuse the pun. Best of Luck.
I've never been but from the chicka's I have on SA and FB, the ones from Pereira are stunning. I'm sure any BM that goes could find something memorable.
I've been to Pereira 8 times. Mainly as a take off spot to go to the spa / baths at Santa Rosa de Cabal. A short bus ride away. Pereira is a safe town and easy to walk around. Population 500,000. Some good eateries if you know where to go. They have some 24 HR. Cafeterias with good food. The zoo isn't bad. Cabs are cheap, BUT.
The mongering opportunities are limited. Some hit or miss streetwalkers at different parques. A few good bars w chicas, some night spots. But that's about it. To me Pereira is good for 3-4 days. Then its time to move on.I have visited most cities in Colombia including Pereira but never even bothered looking for pussy in Pereira however my best Colombian buddy, a paisa from Medellin, always tells me that "the woman in Pereira know how to really fuck" as he has partied there in years gone by so there probably is something to the reputation, so for what it is worth after this China kung flu is finished and were allowed to travel I will visit Pereira for at least a few days and check out my buddies observations.
Much love and respect to all!
The Tall Man.
And Hotel Capitolio and next door Hotel Cristal behind Catedral Baslica Metropolitana (the big brick church at Parque Boliva) both share a pool but they look a long scary walk back from the 2 clubs after midnightI have walked in that area and visited the local bars late at night many times. Pretty much trannies everywhere day and night but they seem less aggressive and have not bothered me on the street or in the bar so I think just walking the street back to the hotel will be fine. A couple of drugged out ones are near the hotel by that shopping mall at night when I was there. I remember because they always tried to grab the passer-by and one got a hold of me briefly once and my arm felt itchy for a few hours, not sure why. The small mall has many religion related stores and is very clean and modern. It is kind of strange that a nice mall exists in that area.
I had another great trio with Wifey and her flame, the other night. I spent about $100 on decorations and gifts. I made steaks, and some Aperol Spritzes that weren't even close to finished. Right back to the Smirnoff Ice for these girls. Wifey loved it. Nice touch on the decorations. Very Colombian.
Hi there,
1) Are the prices on photoprepagos in Colombian Peso? When I read 100.000 or 100, is it about $26.27?
Yes.
3) My time is valuable and I'm not willing to spend any time to get free pussy. I'm willing to pay what I have to pay. Is Tinder a valuable option to get very attractive girls at a good rate or are there much better options?
As you said your time is valuable, I go to La Isla to spend my night there when I don't want to spend too much time searching or waiting. It is expensive by Medellin standard but it will be cheap if you convert your valuable time to pesos. There are many other options but this is the safest bet for newbie.
4) Is it better to rent an apartment on AirBnb or to get an hotel?
Airbnb is better.
5) How long can I stay with a tourist Visa? Can I buy an open ticket and come back after 2 or 3 months? The idea is to take a week of holidays and then work there remotely. I have been working remotely since COVID-19, so it doesn't really matter where I'm.
3 months, 6 months with extension. You need to have return ticket.
6) I'm only interested in girlfriend experience. For me, sex without kisses is not sex.
The most reliable option for this will be FB or SA.
I'm worried about the laptop and the phone. Is secure to leave the laptop in the apartment / hotel room when I'm going out? Should I buy a cheap Android phone to use with a local sim card, and leave my iPhone in the hotel?
Laptop in apartment is usually safe if you don't have visitor. Carrying a cheap phone is a good idea.
8) I do not wear expensive stuff or jewelry, and I usually keep a low profile. If I get robbed, are they going to take my credit card, or most likely just the money and the phone, eventually?
Nobody can give you an absolute answer but carry only what you can afford to lose and as little as possible.
So much less P4P besides Medellin, Bogota, and Cartagena.There's amateur action in every city in Colombia. Straight-up P4 P? I don't know, but I had awesome dates with semi-pros or amateurs in Barranquilla. A couple in Santa Marta. And surprisingly, I met some thirsty cuties in Riohacha. Armenia (Quindio) seems to be a dirty little honeypot.
For those that are here to do nothing else than fuck, then MED, BOG, CTG are the places. But if you have a hobby or other reasons to travel around, much fun can be had with the chicas.
The Tall Man
08-23-20, 18:13
Hi there,
I'm new here and I have a lot of questions.
1) Are the prices on photoprepagos in Colombian Peso? When I read 100.000 or 100, is it about $26.27?
2) Are there other websites that I should visit?
3) My time is valuable and I'm not willing to spend any time to get free pussy. I'm willing to pay what I have to pay. Is Tinder a valuable option to get very attractive girls at a good rate or are there much better options?
4) Is it better to rent an apartment on AirBnb or to get an hotel?
5) How long can I stay with a tourist Visa? Can I buy an open ticket and come back after 2 or 3 months? The idea is to take a week of holidays and then work there remotely. I have been working remotely since COVID-19, so it doesn't really matter where I'm.Welcome newbie. I will take a swing at some of your questions:
1) Are the prices on photoprepagos in Colombian Peso? When I read 100.000 or 100, is it about $26.27?
Correct about $27. USD which is about the norm, the range is usually 100 mil to 150 mil plus sometimes taxi to and fro and / or what you negotiate.
2) Are there other websites that I should visit?
Milierotics is another, it is less flashy and more real photos. Like the other site you need to vet the girls, ask for additional photo so you see the girl that will show up.
3) My time is valuable and I'm not willing to spend any time to get free pussy. I'm willing to pay what I have to pay. Is Tinder a valuable option to get very attractive girls at a good rate or are there much better options?
Tinder takes time and effort and if your here in Medellin for a week or so then it makes little sense. Yes you could start up conversations a week or two before you arrive but the risk and rewards may be limited just because of your limited time.
4) Is it better to rent an apartment on AirBnb or to get an hotel?
All things being equal probably an airbnb but be sure to read their policy on guests, very important, ask out right so there is no problems. Also do a search here on these forums.
5) How long can I stay with a tourist Visa? Can I buy an open ticket and come back after 2 or 3 months? The idea is to take a week of holidays and then work there remotely. I have been working remotely since COVID-19, so it doesn't really matter where I'm.
90 days then if needed you can extend another 90 days on a tourist visa. You need a return ticket within 90 days as they will check at the departure in the US. I got caught once as my return ticket was a week past the 90 days.
6) I have been a couple of times in Cuba and I had a great time with girls. First time I was much younger and I had two girls for free. Sex is almost always great there. Girls are hot, and they love sex. Is the same in Colombia? What does include a standard performance? OWO? DFK? I'm only interested in girlfriend experience. For me, sex without kisses is not sex.
I have been to Cuba also, about 4 years ago, had fun but probably will not return. Now living in Medellin and could have a different girl every night. Free you ask? Yes at times but know that nothing is really free in live, we all pay in some form or fashion.
You ask about GFE, absolutely available, I get it all the time but I live here and see non-pros or those just needing some economic help, wow the sex is at times off the charts.
7) I'm planning to travel with a Transferwise card, which I recharge, and get the money from the ATM. I'm worried about the laptop and the phone. Is secure to leave the laptop in the apartment / hotel room when I'm going out? Should I buy a cheap Android phone to use with a local sim card, and leave my iPhone in the hotel?
Secure you laptop and expensive cell phones in a safe or hidden especially so when you have any chica visit you. I have both an older Samsung and also a newer iPhone 11, which one do you think I carry when I go hunting in centro for pussy.
8) I do not wear expensive stuff or jewelry, and I usually keep a low profile. If I get robbed, are they going to take my credit card, or most likely just the money and the phone, eventually?
I wear no jewelry at all, and this is from a guy who was a watch aficionado back in the day. Just have street smarts when you go out. Don't get drunk, don't bring back to your apartment any puta you don't know, watch your drinks, carry little cash and no credit card and god forbid should you get robbed just give it up and do not resist.
9) I'm interested in girls. Which city is better, Medellin or Bogota?
I have partied many times in both but live in Medellin for 4 years. It is a different scene in both places, I suggest Medellin for you to start off with for a variety of reasons.
10) Which is the price for a top girl for an hour?
Huh whatever they can get from you, top chicas think that their pussy is gold, I suggest to stay away from these putas and enjoy the natural beauties available which gladly will give GFE.
11) Is Brasil the only alternative if Colombia doesn't reopen the borders?
How about The FKK clubs in Germany.
Please read all the pages back about 25 to 40 pages, even more-so then you can have answers to many of your questions.
Much love and respect to all!
The Tall Man.
On the other hand, the talent looks very good on SAI think so too.
You are in a good situation in Medellin. I have read other mongers fuck more girls in a couple weeks than you have for several months so I think you are far from exhausting what's available. The worst you can do in Medellin is your current situation which is like paradise so why move after all things considered? But I do like to see you go and read your report.
NOW I understand all this discussion! I have been wondering for a while WTF was all this fuss about a supposed MORALITY rate here.Very FUNNY, jajaja.
I always appreciate your advice, surfer. They are all good advice. I'm in NorCal, and I have access to high quality pussies, they are just older and a lot of more expensive than Medellin (I certainly can't afford to have foursomes with 18-years-olds in unlimited tussi all night), but I can make do. I haven't establish a mongering reputation in Mexico, I don't have any chica's numbers and I'm not a frequent visitor to any monger establishment there. Given the pandemic situation, I don't think I will do well in Mexico. On the other hand, I have invested at least 40 k in 4-5 months in Medellin on relationship development with 12 18-year-olds, if I make it back there, I will have an experience that is second to none. At the moment, there is no alternative for me. I'm optimistic about 9/1, it will not be a grand reopening, but as long as it opens, I will figure out a way to get back in.I'm with surfer I'm dying to get back to Medellíand but take the trip to Tijuana for something similar I did the same last week, flew from the bay to SD, trolley to San Ysidrio, same lie, dentist appt hours later getting my balls licked by one of CuminTjs finest.
For newbies I think Colombia is a less problematic compared to thailand or Dominican republic. Unless for 4 months I just got lucky.I think you got lucky. There is no way Colombia is safer than Thailand for newbie.
if the guy had locked all his valuables in the apartments security box, he may have woken up not missing so much stuff from his apartment.I think one can't assume it will be safe in the security box if the chica is going to rob you at your place. Mr E mentioned several times that the instruction to open it is easily available. There was a post a while back people were wondering about how the chica opened the security box in the report and all the hidden valuable were gone. Maybe it is John G who also reported being robbed in Bogota and security box emptied?
DownUnderMonger
08-23-20, 19:04
I think one can't assume it will be safe in the security box if the chica is going to rob you at your place. Mr E mentioned several times that the instruction to open it is easily available. There was a post a while back people were wondering about how the chica opened the security box in the report and all the hidden valuable were gone. Maybe it is John G who also reported being robbed in Bogota and security box emptied?With all this worry about valuables. My question is - Why don't people utilise love / short term hotels more instead of risking taking them back to their principal room. Also prevents future dramas of girls returning unannounced.
In Lima I utilised many hotels like this. I especially enjoy rooms with a wet sauna in it, and it was only S /60 ($20) for 4-6 hours for 2.
Ok I retract just the Dominican Republic. Pattaya I was able to walk the streets all night. But 4 months in laureles I walked everywhere. About 70 chicas mostly at my apartment. I was just missing rolling paper and a lighter. Never had to call security. Still be alert at all times.
I think you got lucky. There is no way Colombia is safer than Thailand for newbie..
I have walked in that area and visited the local bars late at night many times. Pretty much trannies everywhere day and night but they seem less aggressive and have not bothered me on the street or in the bar so I think just walking the street back to the hotel will be fine. A couple of drugged out ones are near the hotel by that shopping mall at night when I was there. I remember because they always tried to grab the passer-by and one got a hold of me briefly once and my arm felt itchy for a few hours, not sure why. The small mall has many religion related stores and is very clean and modern. It is kind of strange that a nice mall exists in that area.Do you know if that small police substation in the SW corner of Parque Bolívar is open 24/7?
I think one can't assume it will be safe in the security box if the chica is going to rob you at your place. Mr E mentioned several times that the instruction to open it is easily available. There was a post a while back people were wondering about how the chica opened the security box in the report and all the hidden valuable were gone. Maybe it is John G who also reported being robbed in Bogota and security box emptied?I'm not aware of an electronic security box that doesn't require a physical key to open when you don't have the combination. The chances of a Chica getting into a locked security box without a key seem remote, unless there is a key to the box hidden in the apartment that she finds, or she hold's the monger up at gun point and demands the number to the box. One other scenario is that she has a locksmiths key for opening security boxes which may explain how the other people were robbed. I had a problem with one of the Yale security boxes in my apartment and had to call a locksmith to open it as apparently the battery door inside had fallen off. He had a very inexpensive tool which took him about twenty seconds to open the box up. Regardless, the odds of losing your most precious valuables are reduced by locking them up in a safe. If it's an older style safe utilizing just a key, that's the worst with an electronic the best, albeit requiring the physical key to open when the combination is unknown. And yes, if a Chica is intent on robbing you, at least you will feel much safer with your valuables locked up. There have been numerous posts over the years where BM's have been bragging about how they leave stuff out and nothing get's taken. That's like playing Russian roulette as far as I am concerned.
With all this worry about valuables. My question is - Why don't people utilise love / short term hotels more instead of risking taking them back to their principal room. Also prevents future dramas of girls returning unannounced.
In Lima I utilised many hotels like this. I especially enjoy rooms with a wet sauna in it, and it was only S /60 ($20) for 4-6 hours for 2.1. Many mongers are frugal. They don't want to spend the extra money.
2. People get complacent. They have many girls over without a problem and forget to be on their guard.
3. "It won't happen to me. " At one time or another we all are in denial. We know stuff happens, but we think we are immune. Whatever comes up most of us think we can handle it or avoid it. And then one day we're going to be wrong.
As I wrote before I have stayed at apartments with security and have had no issues. I don't know how many girls I will have over or how long they will actually stay for any given day. With an apartment it is 24 hours that I have it available and not a predetermined time frame like a short term hotel.
With all this worry about valuables. My question is - Why don't people utilise love / short term hotels more instead of risking taking them back to their principal room. Also prevents future dramas of girls returning unannounced.
In Lima I utilised many hotels like this. I especially enjoy rooms with a wet sauna in it, and it was only S /60 ($20) for 4-6 hours for 2..
GeneHickman
08-23-20, 20:17
I think so too.
You are in a good situation in Medellin. I have read other mongers fuck more girls in a couple weeks than you have for several months so I think you are far from exhausting what's available. The worst you can do in Medellin is your current situation which is like paradise so why move after all things considered? But I do like to see you go and read your report.Yepp, agree, doesn't make sense changing base, but if you're curious maybe a week in periera is not a bad idea. I am sure you could pull off of SA and find a few gems but seriously your set up is so good right now; you should just let it run.
Like the other poster said, if you do go we would love to hear about your adventures there because some of us have thought about it as well.
Depends on the place you are staying at and the security box. The only time I had an issue with security box was in elCentro. It didn't even work. And even if it did work, it certainly wasn't one that I felt comfortable leaving valuables in.
I think one can't assume it will be safe in the security box if the chica is going to rob you at your place. Mr E mentioned several times that the instruction to open it is easily available. There was a post a while back people were wondering about how the chica opened the security box in the report and all the hidden valuable were gone. Maybe it is John G who also reported being robbed in Bogota and security box emptied?.
With all this worry about valuables. My question is - Why don't people utilise love / short term hotels more instead of risking taking them back to their principal room. Also prevents future dramas of girls returning unannounced.
In Lima I utilised many hotels like this. I especially enjoy rooms with a wet sauna in it, and it was only S /60 ($20) for 4-6 hours for 2.Managing your valuables is not really such a big deal if done properly which many BM's know how to do with the exception of a few. Your question is really more about the venue (Lima is very different than Medellin) and how you like to monger. Lot's of guys would rather entertain Chicas in their apartments versus Love Hotels in Medellin. It's more the norm in Medellin for most, and why not if there is security in the building.
I think you got lucky. There is no way Colombia is safer than Thailand for newbie.Cartegena in tourist areas is safe.
Depends on the place you are staying at and the security box. The only time I had an issue with security box was in elCentro. It didn't even work. And even if it did work, it certainly wasn't one that I felt comfortable leaving valuables in..Yeah the room safes in the Botero Hotel did not work, I hid money under the carpet in the closet and taped up under the sink on my 1st trip when I brought a lot of cash, plus I brought a laptop security cable and locked my laptop to the desk chair.
TitusPullo88
08-23-20, 22:00
Welcome newbie. I will take a swing at some of your questions:
1) Are the prices on photoprepagos in Colombian Peso? When I read 100.000 or 100, is it about $26.27?
Correct about $27. USD which is about the norm, the range is usually 100 mil to 150 mil plus sometimes taxi to and fro and / or what you negotiate.
2) Are there other websites that I should visit?
Milierotics is another, it is less flashy and more real photos. Like the other site you need to vet the girls, ask for additional photo so you see the girl that will show up.
3) My time is valuable and I'm not willing to spend any time to get free pussy. I'm willing to pay what I have to pay. Is Tinder a valuable option to get very attractive girls at a good rate or are there much better options?.Thanks for the info The Tall Man. I've got a question about sauan / spas in Colombia. Are there any similar spa / saunas in Colombia that are similar to the FKK clubs in Germany / Austria? I'm aware of the "casas" but is there anything like in Colombia where you can walk around in a robe, go swimming, enjoy a nice sauna / steam room, get a drink etc? I've heard of "termas" in Brazil but wasn't sure if Colombia had any.
Thanks.
SlapShot10
08-23-20, 22:38
100% agree. This is a life people want in their fantasy, few come even close to it. How old are you BTW, and what is your general fitness level?
More pics please, slapshot!Just turned 38, and in very good shape.
I think so too.
You are in a good situation in Medellin. I have read other mongers fuck more girls in a couple weeks than you have for several months so I think you are far from exhausting what's available. The worst you can do in Medellin is your current situation which is like paradise so why move after all things considered? But I do like to see you go and read your report.This is true. I have fucked, well, I really don't know, but maybe 40-50 girls in the past 5.5 months. I could have fucked much, much more, but I don't think I'd have even come close to the amount of quality memories, and I'd have spent far more money to do so. No complaints from me. There are several that I've already forgotten. I have been working way too much to be on that type of routine, but I have certainly done it before in Medellin and Thailand.
Yepp, agree, doesn't make sense changing base, but if you're curious maybe a week in periera is not a bad idea. I am sure you could pull off of SA and find a few gems but seriously your set up is so good right now; you should just let it run.
Like the other poster said, if you do go we would love to hear about your adventures there because some of us have thought about it as well.I think I agree, and this comes down to two options:
1) Go for 7-10 days, and risk having to find a new apartment in Medellin when I return, which would take away from my time in Pereira, or from my planning for Pereira.
2) Go for 3-5 days, and continue to rent the Medellin apartment. I think this is the safest bet, and would allow me to pack light, and do more research / preparations for Pereira. If this was the case, I'd likely try to arrange for a couple girls to stay with me in a modern finca. I don't think I can get a genuine sense of the city in these times, anyway. So, now that I say that, it's probably pointless to go. I'd be banging Coffee Triangulars instead of Paisas. Not sure I'd notice the difference, but maybe just a quick change of pace and a pool would be nice.
I saw something today about the Medellin Mayor saying the economy needs to reopen. So, maybe we will start seeing some changes. As far as the entry permit, I believe the grace period will allow for 30 days after the State of Emergency is lifted. Or, an extension would be required. I had a buddy in the US call and say he has been talking to Colombian girls on Tinder. I told him not to get his hopes up, unless he can find the rare girl with a passport, and unless he wants to pay to meet her in Mexico (for example, but not sure if that's even allowed, right now). I am seriously considering extending my visa after the quarantine, if not solely because I don't want to be locked out of Colombia and locked in back in the US.
Cheers.
I told him not to get his hopes up, unless he can find the rare girl with a passport, and unless he wants to pay to meet her in Mexico (for example, but not sure if that's even allowed, right now).
Cheers.Even having a passport won't help, about 70% of US Visa applicants in Colombia get turned down, they have to either own a house or have a lot of money in the bank plus strong ties to the community. I looked into it, my Conejitas girl had a passport but slim chances of getting a visa, plus they have to apply in person in Bogota and pay a $100 non-refundable application fee.
GeneHickman
08-23-20, 23:35
Just turned 38, and in very good shape.
This is true. I have fucked, well, I really don't know, but maybe 40-50 girls in the past 5.5 months. I could have fucked much, much more, but I don't think I'd have even come close to the amount of quality memories, and I'd have spent far more money to do so. No complaints from me. There are several that I've already forgotten. I have been working way too much to be on that type of routine, but I have certainly done it before in Medellin and Thailand.
I think I agree, and this comes down to two options:
1) Go for 7-10 days, and risk having to find a new apartment in Medellin when I return, which would take away from my time in Pereira, or from my planning for Pereira.
2) Go for 3-5 days, and continue to rent the Medellin apartment. I think this is the safest bet, and would allow me to pack light, and do more research / preparations for Pereira. If this was the case, I'd likely try to arrange for a couple girls to stay with me in a modern finca. I don't think I can get a genuine sense of the city in these times, anyway. So, now that I say that, it's probably pointless to go. I'd be banging Coffee Triangulars instead of Paisas. Not sure I'd notice the difference, but maybe just a quick change of pace and a pool would be nice.
I saw something today about the Medellin Mayor saying the economy needs to reopen. So, maybe we will start seeing some changes. As far as the entry permit, I believe the grace period will allow for 30 days after the State of Emergency is lifted. Or, an extension would be required. I had a buddy in the US call and say he has been talking to Colombian girls on Tinder. I told him not to get his hopes up, unless he can find the rare girl with a passport, and unless he wants to pay to meet her in Mexico (for example, but not sure if that's even allowed, right now). I am seriously considering extending my visa after the quarantine, if not solely because I don't want to be locked out of Colombia and locked in back in the US.
Cheers.Don't over analyze it, just go with your gut. A few days of rent either way will not kill you in the larger scheme of things, and if you're worried about the chica sitation, take wifey or pinky with you. A native spanish speaker by your side can be a plus and some finca fresh air is not a bad break after a few months in an apartment.
If it were me, I'd get a few feelers out on SA and go for a 3-5 day visit, you won't know the city completely but a change in scenery, air and pussy would let you know if it might be place to return to for a long term stay.
And be sure to update us!!
Just turned 38, and in very good shape.
This is true. I have fucked, well, I really don't know, but maybe 40-50 girls in the past 5.5 months. I could have fucked much, much more, but I don't think I'd have even come close to the amount of quality memories, and I'd have spent far more money to do so. No complaints from me. There are several that I've already forgotten. I have been working way too much to be on that type of routine, but I have certainly done it before in Medellin and Thailand.
I think I agree, and this comes down to two options:
1) Go for 7-10 days, and risk having to find a new apartment in Medellin when I return, which would take away from my time in Pereira, or from my planning for Pereira.
2) Go for 3-5 days, and continue to rent the Medellin apartment. I think this is the safest bet, and would allow me to pack light, and do more research / preparations for Pereira. If this was the case, I'd likely try to arrange for a couple girls to stay with me in a modern finca. I don't think I can get a genuine sense of the city in these times, anyway. So, now that I say that, it's probably pointless to go. I'd be banging Coffee Triangulars instead of Paisas. Not sure I'd notice the difference, but maybe just a quick change of pace and a pool would be nice.
I saw something today about the Medellin Mayor saying the economy needs to reopen. So, maybe we will start seeing some changes. As far as the entry permit, I believe the grace period will allow for 30 days after the State of Emergency is lifted. Or, an extension would be required. I had a buddy in the US call and say he has been talking to Colombian girls on Tinder. I told him not to get his hopes up, unless he can find the rare girl with a passport, and unless he wants to pay to meet her in Mexico (for example, but not sure if that's even allowed, right now). I am seriously considering extending my visa after the quarantine, if not solely because I don't want to be locked out of Colombia and locked in back in the US.
Cheers.
Thanks for the info The Tall Man. I've got a question about sauan / spas in Colombia. Are there any similar spa / saunas in Colombia that are similar to the FKK clubs in Germany / Austria? I'm aware of the "casas" but is there anything like in Colombia where you can walk around in a robe, go swimming, enjoy a nice sauna / steam room, get a drink etc? I've heard of "termas" in Brazil but wasn't sure if Colombia had any.
Thanks.That would be a solid no.
The USA has dropped it's 14 day quarantine requirement for all international travelers. This should get things rolling fairly quickly
The USA has dropped it's 14 day quarantine requirement for all international travelers. This should get things rolling fairly quicklyWow I have traveled out the US twice within the last two months. I never knew about the 14 day requirement.
Wow I have traveled out the US twice within the last two months. I never knew about the 14 day requirement.It was a recommendation for a 14 day self-quarantine and not a requirement that was removed.
Lucky Nuts
08-24-20, 03:47
Wow I have traveled out the US twice within the last two months. I never knew about the 14 day requirement.It was not a requirement but rather a recommendation.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2020/08/23/cdc-removes-14-day-covid-quarantine-recommendation-travelers/3424484001/
It was not a requirement but rather a recommendation.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2020/08/23/cdc-removes-14-day-covid-quarantine-recommendation-travelers/3424484001/The CDC recommendation is quite different from a 'US' 14 day quarantine requirement.But it’s still a step in the right direction.
Chris Long
08-24-20, 05:25
What is the latest on international travel to Medellin. Will the ban on international flights be lifted September 1st? Will there be a quarantine?
Black Page
08-24-20, 11:49
The USA has dropped it's 14 day quarantine requirement for all international travelers. This should get things rolling fairly quicklyThat is for US citizens returning to USA. The drop is not bidirectional: still most of other countries ban people from USA to enter their borders, or at least require 14-day quarantine.
It is interesting to note that Italy (I imagine the same holds for other EC countries) now fully bans people from Colombia, Brazil, and other hot countries, but allow people from USA with 14-day quarantine. See, size matters.
ConscienceDoc
08-24-20, 15:03
There's amateur action in every city in Colombia. Straight-up P4 P? I don't know, but I had awesome dates with semi-pros or amateurs in Barranquilla. A couple in Santa Marta. And surprisingly, I met some thirsty cuties in Riohacha. Armenia (Quindio) seems to be a dirty little honeypot.
For those that are here to do nothing else than fuck, then MED, BOG, CTG are the places. But if you have a hobby or other reasons to travel around, much fun can be had with the chicas.Haha "Dirty little Honeypot" I LOVE it. Funny, I've been to Colombia a few times and have had the pleasure of sleeping with about 30-40 girls (I know rookie numbers) but the most gorgeous, unforgettable, beautiful girl I've been with was from Quindio. I'm talking "wanting to stop the hobby and wife this girl up" beautiful. Then I snapped out if it. So FWIW Quindio might be worth exploring.
The Tall Man
08-24-20, 16:15
Thanks for the info The Tall Man. I've got a question about sauan / spas in Colombia. Are there any similar spa / saunas in Colombia that are similar to the FKK clubs in Germany / Austria? I'm aware of the "casas" but is there anything like in Colombia where you can walk around in a robe, go swimming, enjoy a nice sauna / steam room, get a drink etc? I've heard of "termas" in Brazil but wasn't sure if Colombia had any.
Thanks.
That would be a solid no.As the other monger so aptly states unfortunately nothing like that here in all of Colombia. Do yourself a favor and when the China virus is over you need to experience it in Brazil as it is something that will stick in your mind for your life.
It has been 19 years since my last of two 3 week stays in Rio and although HELP is long gone the termas have left an indelible imprint on my mind forever.
Much love and respect to all!
The Tall Man.
SlapShot10
08-24-20, 18:06
I don't have the source for this, so don't take it as 100% truth, but...
Economy Reactivation In Medellin:
- National flights
- Inter-municipality travel
- Restaurants
- Gyms
- Churchs
- Motels
- Outdoor theaters
- Movie theaters
Also some whispers of November being the target for international flights.
If anyone has a timeline or more information, please share.
I don't have the source for this, so don't take it as 100% truth, but...
Economy Reactivation In Medellin:
- National flights
- Inter-municipality travel
- Restaurants
- Gyms
- Churchs
- Motels.This information is contained in an article in El Colombiano dated today and has specific dates associated with each activity with bars and discotheque slated for the third week of November however I didn't see anything about International flights mentioned as this doesn't fall under the Mayors purview.
SpiderRider
08-24-20, 21:48
They've been running service out of apartments the past couple of months. I've been to the Los Colores sede couple of times and enjoyed it. Mostly girls that are quite attractive and eager. And I had one over to my apartment during her days off. Magnificent tetas.
WhatsApp blasts and correspondence indicates the Club location on la 33 is operating again. They're telling me to call ahead so they can be waiting and watching for arrival by a camera. Full liquor service. I have missed the downtown bars a lot, to say the least. I intend to try to check this out later in the week.
American and Spirit pushed their schedules back to resume September 10. American is flying 5 days per week direct from Miami. I assume there will be connections via Bogota the other two days, or American may rely on its new alliance with Jet Blue. Barring something yet more extraordinary than what's already been happening, everything should be close to restored before Christmas. There will of course be businesses that won't survive the lockdowns. It appears Luna Lunera's reopening was a turning point. They were always plugged in with the police and military.
This information is contained in an article in El Colombiano dated today and has specific dates associated with each activity with bars and discotheque slated for the third week of November however I didn't see anything about International flights mentioned as this doesn't fall under the Mayors purview.
Nice talent in El Centro today. Lots of chicas in Botero. Sounds like more places are opening up in a week or 2 as well.
American and Spirit pushed their schedules back to resume September 10. American is flying 5 days per week direct from Miami. I assume there will be connections via Bogota the other two days, or American may rely on its new alliance with Jet Blue. Barring something yet more extraordinary than what's already been happening, everything should be close to restored before Christmas. There will of course be businesses that won't survive the lockdowns. It appears Luna Lunera's reopening was a turning point. They were always plugged in with the police and military.My 9/1st spirit flight was canceled 2 days ago. I do see the 9/10th flight and brought my ticket already. Why hasn't duque came out to make the announcement yet, we are 7 days out from the 9/1st opening date.
Do you know if that small police substation in the SW corner of Parque Bolvar is open 24/7?I have not noticed it open but that is not the route I usually took. I usually took CR 49, CL 54 and CR 50 or variations of it. I have already been to the barber shop, restaurants on CR 50 during day time. I felt it's manageable after a while. I started to walk back to my place further north passing thru that area.
It looks like yesterday the President extended the Health Emergency until the end of November. The next few months should be interesting here.
Duque on Saturday tried to compare fatality rates with those of countries where the disease peaked weeks earlier, but was interrupted by Health Minister Fernando Ruiz who said such a comparison made no sense.
According to international data, Colombia had the highest number of deaths per million inhabitants over the past week, a little more than neighboring Peru, which registered a higher number of infections per million over the past week.
A week before the end of the president's national emergency, the virus reached a new record number of 400 daily deaths on Sunday amid what has been projected as the peak of the pandemic.
Not counting untested fatalities, 17,314 have died of the pandemic on Sunday and 541,147 people, more than 1% of the population, has been infected by the coronavirus.
Duque's attempts to restart the economy against the advice to first control the spread of the virus is showing serious cracks despite the government's barrage of false positives.
As more doctors and nurses fall ill, the country's healthcare system is close to collapsing under the weight of the pandemic as the president's promised funds to reinforce the system never arrived.
SlapShot10
08-25-20, 18:54
This information is contained in an article in El Colombiano dated today and has specific dates associated with each activity with bars and discotheque slated for the third week of November however I didn't see anything about International flights mentioned as this doesn't fall under the Mayors purview.Not that it matters much, but Daniel Quintero (Mayor of Medellin) Tweeted today that MDE is ready for international flights, and awaiting government approval. Knowing Colombia, that could be days or months, so again, I don't think this should be the deciding factor for any of your travel plans.
The State of Emergency is until the end of November, per Duque. Thus, if anyone is in the same position as me, you should be able to stay lawfully through the end of 2020, without needing to worry about an extension / Migracion.
My 9/1st spirit flight was canceled 2 days ago. I do see the 9/10th flight and brought my ticket already. Why hasn't duque came out to make the announcement yet, we are 7 days out from the 9/1st opening date.Still think you are going to Colombia in Sept, huh?
Still think you are going to Colombia in Sept, huh?Well, yes, according to the mayor of Medellin (https://twitter.com/QuinteroCalle/status/1298305875250155520). I'm keeping my hopes up. Duque can still block it, but there is a very good chance heaven will open its door in a week.
Still think you are going to Colombia in Sept, huh?Of course he does!
Duque on Saturday tried to compare fatality rates with those of countries where the disease peaked weeks earlier, but was interrupted by Health Minister Fernando Ruiz who said such a comparison made no sense.
According to international data, Colombia had the highest number of deaths per million inhabitants over the past week, a little more than neighboring Peru, which registered a higher number of infections per million over the past week.
A week before the end of the president's national emergency, the virus reached a new record number of 400 daily deaths on Sunday amid what has been projected as the peak of the pandemic.
Not counting untested fatalities, 17,314 have died of the pandemic on Sunday and 541,147 people, more than 1% of the population, has been infected by the coronavirus.
Duque's attempts to restart the economy against the advice to first control the spread of the virus is showing serious cracks despite the government's barrage of false positives.
As more doctors and nurses fall ill, the country's healthcare system is close to collapsing under the weight of the pandemic as the president's promised funds to reinforce the system never arrived.Your post was entitled "No Interest In Colombia After Such Relevation", so what are you saying here? You've stated some facts, do you have some conclusions to draw from them or have you just written Colombia off based on them.
Or perhaps your skeptical of what's to come COVID wise given the planned re-start of the economy over the coming months. At least I am in this regards.
YippieKayay
08-25-20, 21:50
Duque on Saturday tried to compare fatality rates with those of countries where the disease peaked weeks earlier, but was interrupted by Health Minister Fernando Ruiz who said such a comparison made no sense.
According to international data, Colombia had the highest number of deaths per million inhabitants over the past week, a little more than neighboring Peru, which registered a higher number of infections per million over the past week.
Yes. Going to Colombia is putting yourself in danger. There are many strains of SARS-COV-2, and its reasonable to speculate that Colombia has a deadlier strain without the resources to treat people. Give the country a wide berth until an effective vaccine is available or the virus becomes less deadly (as it should over time).
Elvis 2008
08-26-20, 00:34
There are many strains of SARS-COV-2, and its reasonable to speculate that Colombia has a deadlier strain without the resources to treat people. Give the country a wide berth until an effective vaccine is available or the virus becomes less deadly (as it should over time).Nah, this strain in Colombia is more infectious but overall less deadly, however there have been a huge number of deaths in Peru because of a lack of oxygen. Sly One said in Lima that private hospitals were charging $10,000 for admission and like a $1000 per tank of oxygen. Anybody in Colombia heard of that kind of price gouging going on?
Well, yes, according to the mayor of Medellin (https://twitter.com/QuinteroCalle/status/1298305875250155520). I'm keeping my hopes up. Duque can still block it, but there is a very good chance heaven will open its door in a week.Lots of luck bro. Keep buying tickets. Sooner or later you're bound to get lucky.
I think it's relative to where one would stay as an alternative to Colombia. Following your logic, the United States does not seem a leading safety alternative. As I've stated before, what one does can be as consequential as where one does it.
Yes. Going to Colombia is putting yourself in danger. There are many strains of SARS-COV-2, and its reasonable to speculate that Colombia has a deadlier strain without the resources to treat people. Give the country a wide berth until an effective vaccine is available or the virus becomes less deadly (as it should over time).
I think it's relative to where one would stay as an alternative to Colombia. Following your logic, the United States does not seem a leading safety alternative. As I've stated before, what one does can be as consequential as where one does it.Well, assuming that he is going to be boning multiple chicks in Colombia and those chicks will likely be with multiple guys during the same period, Colombia is not a safe alternative (as far as Covid).
One can't monger and practice social distancing at the same time.
Well, assuming that he is going to be boning multiple chicks in Colombia and those chicks will likely be with multiple guys during the same period, Colombia is not a safe alternative (as far as Covid).
One can't monger and practice social distancing at the same time.Banging working girls is not safe. If you want safe stay with a wife.
Well, assuming that he is going to be boning multiple chicks in Colombia and those chicks will likely be with multiple guys during the same period, Colombia is not a safe alternative (as far as Covid).
One can't monger and practice social distancing at the same time.Think of the Mongers in El Centro pulling Chicas left and right from the streets, and who knows how many passer-bys besides the guys they've been banging they have potentially been exposed to.
Not to mention if it even occurs of the disinfecting and sanitation of the rooms between clients.
Quite frankly I'm surprised that we haven't heard yet about a Love Motel in El Centro being shutdown for a while because an employee became infected.
Maybe it's already happened in the guise of a Hotel closing.
From the official website of the city of Cali:
"The National Government has declared that, in the second or third week of September 2020, "the Cali airport" would be chosen to begin the operation of international flights in Colombia. The first destinations would be the US, Panama, Peru, and Ecuador. ".
https://www.cali.gov.co/turismo/publicaciones/155674/cali-la-capital-que-inimonioia-vuelos-internacionales-en-colombia/
Just passing some info I just saw, use it as you will.
Lots of luck bro. Keep buying tickets. Sooner or later you're bound to get lucky.Yes, that's exactly what I'm doing right now. If my 9/10th ticket gets canceled again, I will immediately buy the next available one. I firmly believe in one way or another, I will get myself back in within the next 30 days. Once I'm there, I will never leave Medellin until covid is completely over.
YippieKayay
08-26-20, 05:33
From the official website of the city of Cali:
"The National Government has declared that, in the second or third week of September 2020, "the Cali airport" would be chosen to begin the operation of international flights in Colombia. The first destinations would be the US, Panama, Peru, and Ecuador. ".
https://www.cali.gov.co/turismo/publicaciones/155674/cali-la-capital-que-inimonioia-vuelos-internacionales-en-colombia/
Just passing some info I just saw, use it as you will.This completely shows that the Colombian governments, both federal and local, don't give a rats ass about the pandemic. They've thrown in the towel. Sheesh, I'm staying away.
GeneHickman
08-26-20, 05:43
This completely shows that the Colombian governments, both federal and local, don't give a rats ass about the pandemic. They've thrown in the towel. Sheesh, I'm staying away.Yepp and if so its going to be a painful winter down there and it might be summer before it gets close to safe again. For the brave souls ignoring it, good luck. It sure would suck to end up needing breathing support down there. And in the small chance you end up there, noone is lifeflighting your covid ass back. To me that would pose a far greater threat than any criminal elements I had considered previously.
From the official website of the city of Cali:
"The National Government has declared that, in the second or third week of September 2020, "the Cali airport" would be chosen to begin the operation of international flights in Colombia. The first destinations would be the US, Panama, Peru, and Ecuador. ".
https://www.cali.gov.co/turismo/publicaciones/155674/cali-la-capital-que-inimonioia-vuelos-internacionales-en-colombia/
Just passing some info I just saw, use it as you will.This is the best news I have heard in a very long time. Thank you so much for posting. It's an 8 hour drive from Cali to Medellin. Looks like I will be returning to heaven in 2-3 weeks.
Crikey, maybe I've died from coronavirus and I just don't realize it. Pollo, Slapshot, does this mean we died and went to heaven?
Banging working girls is not safe. If you want safe stay with a wife.
Nah, this strain in Colombia is more infectious but overall less deadly, however there have been a huge number of deaths in Peru because of a lack of oxygen. Sly One said in Lima that private hospitals were charging $10,000 for admission and like a $1000 per tank of oxygen. Anybody in Colombia heard of that kind of price gouging going on?Yes, I have heard of that here, from an acquaintance that works in a hospital billing dept here. She said that practically anyone that shows up with a complaint will be admitted for COVID, because of high billing rates. And that hospitals are reimbursed 50 million COP for COVID deaths in the UCI. And that they are asking for large sum payments up-front. I don't know anymore and that's just what I was told by one person.
Personally, as a former licensed healthcare professional, and someone who has been to two different hospitals here for testing and consults and surgery, I have no hesitation about receiving care here in Medellin if I get sick. Someone mentioned getting taking a medevac to the USA. That's silly. American hospitals don't offer any more than metropolitan Colombian hospitals do.
From the official website of the city of Cali:
"The National Government has declared that, in the second or third week of September 2020, "the Cali airport" would be chosen to begin the operation of international flights in Colombia. The first destinations would be the US, Panama, Peru, and Ecuador. ".
https://www.cali.gov.co/turismo/publicaciones/155674/cali-la-capital-que-inimonioia-vuelos-internacionales-en-colombia/
Just passing some info I just saw, use it as you will.Yes but short of details as to what the entry requirements will be. I read it twice, and albeit my Spanish skills are limited, I saw no mention of what testing or whether there would be quarantines, except that those details would be worked out I think this coming week. IF stringent with a two week quarantine, well that will be a non-starter for most.
It almost seemed as though it was an advertisement for Cali boasting about it's geographic location, and how it's handled the Pandemic. These were the primary reasons the article say's it's opening over other Cities in the Country. You would think something like this would of been announced by the President of the Country. SJobs probably has already booked his flights!
Yepp and if so its going to be a painful winter down there and it might be summer before it gets close to safe again. For the brave souls ignoring it, good luck. It sure would suck to end up needing breathing support down there. And in the small chance you end up there, noone is lifeflighting your covid ass back. To me that would pose a far greater threat than any criminal elements I had considered previously.Really.
Your post is very apocalyptic, especially for the board members living in Medellin.
Is it really so dangerous, granted you might get better care and access to better treatments in the USA, but it's not as gloom and doom as you make it out to be.
Alert: Humanitarian Flights from Bogotá (Sept 2, Sept 5), Cali (Sept 3), Cartagena (Sept 7), and Medellin (Aug 27, Sept 6) to Fort Lauderdale.
Location: Bogotá, Cali, Cartagena, and Medellin Event: Humanitarian Flights from Bogotá (Sept 2, Sept 5), Cali (Sept 3), Cartagena (Sept 7), and Medellin (Aug 27, Sept 6) to Fort Lauderdale – Operated by Spirit Airlines The USA Embassy is pleased to confirm Spirit Airlines is operating additional humanitarian flights. Two flights will depart from El Dorado International Airport (BOG) in Bogotá, on Sept 2 and Sept 5. One flight will depart from Alfonso Bonilla Aragóand International Airport.
LoveItHere69
08-26-20, 17:52
Alert: Humanitarian Flights from Bogot (Sept 2, Sept 5), Cali (Sept 3), Cartagena (Sept 7), and Medellin (Aug 27, Sept 6) to Fort Lauderdale.
Location: Bogot, Cali, Cartagena, and Medellin Event: Humanitarian Flights from Bogot (Sept 2, Sept 5), Cali (Sept 3), Cartagena (Sept 7), and Medellin (Aug 27, Sept 6) to Fort Lauderdale Operated by Spirit Airlines The USA Embassy is pleased to confirm Spirit Airlines is operating additional humanitarian flights. Two flights will depart from El Dorado International Airport (BOG) in Bogot, on Sept 2 and Sept 5. One flight will depart from Alfonso Bonilla Aragand International Airport.These have been going on since the lock down in March. I believe the first flights out were the first week in April. They have continued about every 3 weeks since. Simply put, you have no clue.
You've become a real merchant of doom blakman. The humanitarian flight scheduling means there are no commercial flights scheduled for the days surrounding them. We will know more in the coming weeks. Meanwhile, I thought it had been decided by at least some that it is unacceptably risky to be in Colombia and to have sex with providers.
Alert: Humanitarian Flights from Bogot (Sept 2, Sept 5), Cali (Sept 3), Cartagena (Sept 7), and Medellin (Aug 27, Sept 6) to Fort Lauderdale.
Location: Bogot, Cali, Cartagena, and Medellin Event: Humanitarian Flights from Bogot (Sept 2, Sept 5), Cali (Sept 3), Cartagena (Sept 7), and Medellin (Aug 27, Sept 6) to Fort Lauderdale Operated by Spirit Airlines The USA Embassy is pleased to confirm Spirit Airlines is operating additional humanitarian flights. Two flights will depart from El Dorado International Airport (BOG) in Bogot, on Sept 2 and Sept 5. One flight will depart from Alfonso Bonilla Aragand International Airport.
Assuming it pans out you would have the option of national flights. You might also have the option of flights between the US and Medellin.
This is the best news I have heard in a very long time. Thank you so much for posting. It's an 8 hour drive from Cali to Medellin. Looks like I will be returning to heaven in 2-3 weeks.
SlapShot10
08-26-20, 19:18
Crikey, maybe I've died from coronavirus and I just don't realize it. Pollo, Slapshot, does this mean we died and went to heaven?I died months ago (tussi) and rebounded. I'm either invincible or incredibly stupid. Some day, that riddle will be solved, but not yesterday!
This is the best news I have heard in a very long time. Thank you so much for posting. It's an 8 hour drive from Cali to Medellin. Looks like I will be returning to heaven in 2-3 weeks.AVIANCA UPDATE.
Avianca said to a friend today:
Thank you for contacting Avianca.
In general terms, we have been informed that the Government of Colombia has decided to extend the restriction until September 15th of 2020. That means that, probably, from that day on forward, the flight operation will be resumed. But this hasn't been confirmed.
The recommendation is for you to check directly with the migratory and health institutions on charge.
Alert: Humanitarian Flights from Bogot (Sept 2, Sept 5), Cali (Sept 3), Cartagena (Sept 7), and Medellin (Aug 27, Sept 6) to Fort Lauderdale.
Location: Bogot, Cali, Cartagena, and Medellin Event: Humanitarian Flights from Bogot (Sept 2, Sept 5), Cali (Sept 3), Cartagena (Sept 7), and Medellin (Aug 27, Sept 6) to Fort Lauderdale Operated by Spirit Airlines The USA Embassy is pleased to confirm Spirit Airlines is operating additional humanitarian flights. Two flights will depart from El Dorado International Airport (BOG) in Bogot, on Sept 2 and Sept 5. One flight will depart from Alfonso Bonilla Aragand International Airport.Blakrobot, type SOS if you need help!
Coin Slot came over for a quickie, yesterday afternoon, post-Pinky-departure. Pinky was a double-TLN, and I gave her 70k for food, etc. , when she left. Fuck, CS wouldn't even let me put it all the way in, this time. It usually takes her a bit to open up, and I normally get her warmed-up, but she was in a hurry for a virtual Sura appointment. It was nice to just have a quickie. It's been awhile. Pinky pulled a Sex Goddess and professed her love, inviting herself to live with me to cut down on her expenses. She, like SG, wasn't a huge fan of my invisible shell when she was waiting for me to say it back. Of all the girls, Pinky is probably my favorite, overall. She doesn't want a gringo boyfriend as much as SG, she fucks like a champ, she's more mature than ex-Wifey, but at the end of the day, it's all the same shit. Not as clean as I'd like, not super carinosa, doesn't cook, always needs to be drinking, smoking, or taking whatever, and needs money. Coin Slot was trying to get me to pay for her over-due colegio bill (170k). She also made sure to tell me it's her birthday in 25 days (or some exact number). I paid for her inbound Uber (15k) and then gave her 120k for the quickie and outbound Didi. I have never seen surge prices in Medellin, on Uber, but yesterday around 630p the 15k fare had skyrocketed to 35k. I also noticed it doesn't show a surge multiplier, like in the US.
... I have never seen surge prices in Medellin, on Uber, but yesterday around 630p the 15k fare had skyrocketed to 35k. I also noticed it doesn't show a surge multiplier, like in the US.Before the pandemic, I noticed that quite a bit with Uber, especially in late afternoon and early evening. Many times, it was cheaper to use Cabify (the yellow cabs).
Yes but short of details as to what the entry requirements will be. I read it twice, and albeit my Spanish skills are limited, I saw no mention of what testing or whether there would be quarantines, except that those details would be worked out I think this coming week. IF stringent with a two week quarantine, well that will be a non-starter for most.
It almost seemed as though it was an advertisement for Cali boasting about it's geographic location, and how it's handled the Pandemic. These were the primary reasons the article say's it's opening over other Cities in the Country. You would think something like this would of been announced by the President of the Country. SJobs probably has already booked his flights!It's not too good to be true. It's aimed at restarting tourism and the focus / activities of the traveler would be for tourism. For this to work, I cannot imagine it being a 14-day quarantine. A few major US airports have been doing testing for outbound Intl departures, they might require a negative test to avoid quarantine and that would be OK. It's one airport but it's a good start and I would expect the rest of the country to follow suit within a few weeks of this. I predicted this previously, Colombia has been closed off for months and whether you want to believe it or not tourism is important as Colombia has always had plans to increase tourism every year. People kept pointing out GDP and tourism being a small drop in the bucket and it wouldn't happen. And now what? Colombialover will be devastated he got this one wrong and that people will be able to travel to Colombia, but most of us will not. If anyone is concerned, stay at home. The rest of us, well. 2020 has a chance to finish on a positive note.
If theres the presence of humanitarian flights it means no other international flights. Until humanatarian flights become non existent then there will be no other international flights. Its you who don't have a clue.
These have been going on since the lock down in March. I believe the first flights out were the first week in April. They have continued about every 3 weeks since. Simply put, you have no clue..
SlapShot10
08-26-20, 22:17
If theres the presence of humanitarian flights it means no other international flights. Until humanatarian flights become non existent then there will be no other international flights. Its you who don't have a clue.
.Blakmanometry...
Humanitarian Flights cannot be cancelled once they are scheduled. Only Commercial Flights are allowed to be cancelled.
Sorry to SJobs, et al!
All this news might get me to extend my rent beyond a month. I also think I will hold off on Pereira, or another location, and see how things shape up the next few weeks. I'd rather do Pereira in November when things are open, rather than experience a shell of it, now. I also might get some dental work done in the next month, and don't want to be traveling with some uncertainties surrounding that process.
I forgot to mention, the Hooters GM said they're opening Monday! Patrick's was thinking a much longer timeline before their re-opening. I was told the Hooters building was a former Escobar house. Maybe the owners have some connections that a gringo would not, or maybe Hooters just has the ability to throw more money at a solution. Regardless, I can almost guarantee I'll be sipping a cold Aguila and oogling the talent, in the very near future!
Elvis 2008
08-26-20, 22:48
Yes, I have heard of that here, from an acquaintance that works in a hospital billing dept here. She said that practically anyone that shows up with a complaint will be admitted for COVID, because of high billing rates. And that hospitals are reimbursed 50 million COP for COVID deaths in the UCI. And that they are asking for large sum payments up-front. I don't know anymore and that's just what I was told by one person.
Personally, as a former licensed healthcare professional, and someone who has been to two different hospitals here for testing and consults and surgery, I have no hesitation about receiving care here in Medellin if I get sick. American hospitals don't offer any more than metropolitan Colombian hospitals do.Do you know if they will take insurance in light of that upfront payment? Do you know how much they are asking for upfront? That may be a reason for me not to go.
In a weird way, Colombian hospitals bilking the government and insurance companies with Covid just like they are in the USA is refreshing to me in a weird way because they have been devoid of so many revenues from elective procedures. The treatment for Covid is heparin (cheap), steroids, (cheap), and oxygen (should be cheap). I think that people miss the point with Covid. Everyone is talking about death, but death rates are down. The thing is that people do get sick very quickly with Covid, and they need high dose oxygen right away.
When Sly one said that oxygen is in short supply in Peru, that clinched it for me, no fucking way am I going there if that is the case. Not having oxygen may be why the death rates are so high in Peru. He also indicated that they are not taking insurance only cash for oxygen.
Anyone interested in Colombia should probably do what is mandated in Brazil and buy health insurance when going to Colombia once it opens. It was dirt cheap for Brazil. For a two week trip, $20 got you $50,000 in coverage.
The question now is: will the hospitals just take the insurance or do they want thousands up front like the hospitals in Peru do? Does anyone here know?
GeneHickman
08-26-20, 23:34
Really.
Your post is very apocalyptic, especially for the board members living in Medellin.
Is it really so dangerous, granted you might get better care and access to better treatments in the USA, but it's not as gloom and doom as you make it out to be.Yes really, if you've been anything close to these areas where its surged like crazy, it gets to feel exactly apocalyptic. Ask those in Lombardy, or NY or the Rio Grande valley etc and then see how they describe. Hey I don't want for this to happen there or anywhere and maybe it won't but they in Medellin haven't gone through anything like the hard hit areas. It certainly should factor into people's thinking. After that each monger makes their own call. But saying its minimal risk or totally rationalizing it away is ridiculous.
GeneHickman
08-26-20, 23:42
Yes, I have heard of that here, from an acquaintance that works in a hospital billing dept here. She said that practically anyone that shows up with a complaint will be admitted for COVID, because of high billing rates. And that hospitals are reimbursed 50 million COP for COVID deaths in the UCI. And that they are asking for large sum payments up-front. I don't know anymore and that's just what I was told by one person.
Personally, as a former licensed healthcare professional, and someone who has been to two different hospitals here for testing and consults and surgery, I have no hesitation about receiving care here in Medellin if I get sick. Someone mentioned getting taking a medevac to the USA. That's silly. American hospitals don't offer any more than metropolitan Colombian hospitals do.Damn dude, I don't know what kind of licensed medical professional you were, but if you were to get sick, I mean like ICU level sick, costs aside, there is no better place to be than in the US. Heck most 3rd world hospitals haven't even heard of far less have ecmo treatment for example, but like I said, to each their own, rationalization is a powerful thing, especially when youthful warm pussy is calling. 😂.
What's the advice? I'm getting whiplash from trying to follow the discussion that now touches on Europe, New York and Arizona / Mexico. Surf touched on a salient point. Coronavirus is historically bad but there are many other health threats (including traumatic accidents) that can hit without warning. If there are doubts about surviving health care delivery in Colombia then it's not a place where you can live, or even play. If the US health care system is the key to staying safe from Coronavirus then how is it the US is the world leader in virus deaths? Is it a case of misleading statistics? Anyway, I think I agree it's best to stay away if you would not feel safe.
Yes really, if you've been anything close to these areas where its surged like crazy, it gets to feel exactly apocalyptic. Ask those in Lombardy, or NY or the Rio Grande valley etc and then see how they describe. Hey I don't want for this to happen there or anywhere and maybe it won't but they in Medellin haven't gone through anything like the hard hit areas. It certainly should factor into people's thinking. After that each monger makes their own call. But saying its minimal risk or totally rationalizing it away is ridiculous.
Elvis 2008
08-27-20, 01:15
Colombia has been closed off for months and whether you want to believe it or not tourism is important as Colombia has always had plans to increase tourism every year. People kept pointing out GDP and tourism being a small drop in the bucket and it wouldn't happen. And now what?That is a great question, Puntz, now what? Colombia did everything Fauci and the so called experts said. Here is an article showing Fauci saying all states should have done a generalized lockdown. Thing is the states in the USA who did not go into lockdown have not had their economies devastated or a huge rise in viral cases. See the link: https://www.aier.org/article/a-closer-look-at-the-states-that-stayed-open/.
The lockdowns were put in place so the virus did not overwhelm the health care system. Then some politicians got great results with the lockdowns and touted them as cures and patted themselves on the back for getting rid of the virus. Thing is that the virus mutated and when the USA reversed the lockdowns, cases of Covid did not go down but soared and places like New Zealand which declared victory over the virus saw it come back. In addition, Colombia opened things up a little and also had a surge in cases, yet people to this day think that Covid is a one size fits all thing.
I like your question, and now what? The president locked down the country, banned international travel, and cases have soared such that Colombia is now #7 in the world with cases. Even the well worn line of the experts in a case of horrific policy, "Can you imagine if we had done nothing? Kind of falls on its face here because you have examples of places that did do nothing and had a better outcome than Colombia has.
The funny thing is that one American political has invested in the so called experts so much that they cannot even admit when the experts are all over the place or wrong. How this relates to Colombia is what do you do next if you are Colombia which followed all the expert advice?
The excuse given for this failure has been that the people were not compliant with the laws. So what do you do now? Shoot people who do not wear a mask? You have locked people up for five months to "stay safe" and they have suffered financially, and the virus is raging anyway.
Did banning international travel work to slow the virus in Colombia? Of course not, yet the president is keeping it in place not because it worked but because he does not want to admit he made a mistake. What other reason is there?
Someone said that in all the models, models that have failed spectacularly in Colombia, movement was associated with spread of the disease as if movement can be curtailed. How are busted water pipes fixed without movement? Health care workers getting to work? I guess the idea is government regulation of movement was supposed to be the answer, essential and nonessential movement, but those models were doomed. How can government even begin to regulate all movement? And even if they could, how could it be right about which movements transmit the virus and which ones do not? Come on. That was unrealistic and an impossible task.
And now what? Here is what I predict. The president closes back down again, prays the number of cases goes down, and that the economy can rebound from this horrible devastation from these failed policies. And the next time when Colombia opens up, he prays the number of cases does not surge, but there is no science behind the answer. You are betting that the policies that failed in the past now work. He is completely winging it, and the people of Colombia and those of us who want to go there are losing faith.
If Colombia starts charging a $1000 per bottle of oxygen, the death rate in Colombia will soon be approaching that of Peru, and I am not going. If people do not have faith in a country's health care system, they will not travel there, and that tourism will be gone for years. Sadly, that is what I see happening in Colombia, a mirror of Peru, and there is no way in hell I would go to Peru now.
The president has not learned from his mistakes and the economic destruction continues going forward as does the viral destruction. Either one of two things happens: the virus burns itself out or people realize that they have to live with the virus and carry on with it as a risk as best they can, but I think either scenario will not come to fruition in months or even years.
Yes really, if you've been anything close to these areas where its surged like crazy, it gets to feel exactly apocalyptic. Ask those in Lombardy, or NY or the Rio Grande valley etc and then see how they describe. Hey I don't want for this to happen there or anywhere and maybe it won't but they in Medellin haven't gone through anything like the hard hit areas. It certainly should factor into people's thinking. After that each monger makes their own call. But saying its minimal risk or totally rationalizing it away is ridiculous.My post did not mention anything about minimal risk, the virus is a clear and present danger, but your post made it sound like Medellin would possibly be in turmoil until next Summer, maybe you were thinking similar to Lombardy, Italy or New York City.
I doubt and hope that will not be the case, as Colombia has been pretty good at throttling things thus far, and I agree with you regarding Hospitals in the USA being better, but your post made it seem as though the Hospitals in Medellin are truly third world which isn't the case. I am concerned though as to how things will fare when they open up all the restaurants and bars, and suspect Colombia will clamp down if things get out of control which unfortunately has been the case in other Countries upon re-starting things.
The whole thing is a shitty deal, especially for those of us who are retired with money to burn like me.
Elvis 2008
08-27-20, 01:23
What's the advice? I'm getting whiplash from trying to follow the discussion that now touches on Europe, New York and Arizona / Mexico. Surf touched on a salient point.Knowledge,
It is real simple with me and Covid. If I get sick, can I get oxygen or am I having to pay tens of thousands like in Peru? If I cannot get it at an affordable price in that country, it is off limits. The rate of death with Covid and oxygen is something I will risk. Without oxygen, it is something I will not risk and I think no one, not even younger people in their 20's and 30's, should risk.
MarquisdeSade1
08-27-20, 01:37
What's the advice? I'm getting whiplash from trying to follow the discussion that now touches on Europe, New York and Arizona / Mexico. Surf touched on a salient point. Coronavirus is historically bad but there are many other health threats (including traumatic accidents) that can hit without warning. If there are doubts about surviving health care delivery in Colombia then it's not a place where you can live, or even play. If the US health care system is the key to staying safe from Coronavirus then how is it the US is the world leader in virus deaths? Is it a case of misleading statistics? Anyway, I think I agree it's best to stay away if you would not feel safe.If the US health care system is the key to staying safe from Coronavirus then how is it the US is the world leader in virus deaths?
Your ISG name is knowledge? Is that you being funny? Everyone knows the best health care by light years in the world is in the USA, what is "best"? Highly advanced treatments highly advanced.
And skilled surgeons and physicians and researchers, the absolute highly ranked in the world.
To answer your question, why so many died, well too many flights were allowed in from Asia, and many travelers flew from Asia then Europe then to the east coast.
Also many people that died were very old and ill already, also just because the USA has the absolute "best" medicine in the world doesn't mean everyone chooses to access it.
Some choose to go uninsured, or go to the shitty hospital nearest to their home rather than driving to the best medical facility in their area only 10 or 20 miles away.
It's not too good to be true. It's aimed at restarting tourism and the focus / activities of the traveler would be for tourism. For this to work, I cannot imagine it being a 14-day quarantine. A few major US airports have been doing testing for outbound Intl departures, they might require a negative test to avoid quarantine and that would be OK. It's one airport but it's a good start and I would expect the rest of the country to follow suit within a few weeks of this. I predicted this previously, Colombia has been closed off for months and whether you want to believe it or not tourism is important as Colombia has always had plans to increase tourism every year. People kept pointing out GDP and tourism being a small drop in the bucket and it wouldn't happen. And now what? Colombialover will be devastated he got this one wrong and that people will be able to travel to Colombia, but most of us will not. If anyone is concerned, stay at home. The rest of us, well. 2020 has a chance to finish on a positive note.No disagreement here on a 14 day quarantine being a non-starter. Best case scenario would be a negative test result and free to go. However I suspect Colombia will not be allowing this as they have been very conservative thus far, and I hope I am wrong on this. Some other Countries are testing upon arrival and making you stay in a Hotel for a few days waiting test results. This is very doable, where as other Countries are still requiring a 14 day quarantine period. If Colombia truly wants to re-start things, then hopefully they will make it easy. We will know soon enough as to what those requirements are, and hopefully they will be doable for those wanting to return.
I forgot to mention, the Hooters GM said they're opening Monday! Patrick's was thinking a much longer timeline before their re-opening. I was told the Hooters building was a former Escobar house. Maybe the owners have some connections that a gringo would not, or maybe Hooters just has the ability to throw more money at a solution. Regardless, I can almost guarantee I'll be sipping a cold Aguila and oogling the talent, in the very near future!Nice! This is good news. Will the hooter staff be required to wear a mask? It would be a bummer to not be able to see those high quality talents' face.
Damn dude, I don't know what kind of licensed medical professional you were, but if you were to get sick, I mean like ICU level sick, costs aside, there is no better place to be than in the US. Heck most 3rd world hospitals haven't even heard of far less have ecmo treatment for example, but like I said, to each their own, rationalization is a powerful thing, especially when youthful warm pussy is calling. 😂.I don't think the better hospitals in Colombia are anything close to third world. They are rated very highly and I doubt there are any treatments that are "unknown" to them. Many international ratings put the Colombian health care system far ahead of the USA. Now. Before you get riled up. I believe that if you have great insurance or a lot of money there is some of the best health care in the world available in the USA. But, not available to everyone I've been told. Anyway, my main point is that the standards for doctors and medical procedures is very high in Colombia. The hospitals may not be as luxurious or sometimes as comfortable, but the skill levels and access to medical knowledge is there. But I don't want to have Covid there. Or anywhere for that matter.
LoveItHere69
08-27-20, 03:25
Hotel Botero (Ayenda 1235) has 2 glass entrance doors. The door handles on both doors have been removed. Interpret that to the best of your ability.
Wolf662. I went for my 500 peso chocolate caramel inside donut on the other corner today. Crossed the street and asked the police officer if the sub-station will be open 24/7 after things return to normal. He said yes. I have seen several police sub-stations in parks. The police come and go. Mostly they are gone as things get later and more quiet at night. That area is full of lady boys so run fast!
Side Note:
Some of the stories you guys write are so much BS you should write your fantasy stories on the literotica site.
Bad Girls:
Walking Calle 52. Side of Museum is on your right and side of buildings are on your left. Turn left on what I call "bar street" Carrera 53. Keeping on the left side of the street you pass 50 meters of brick wall and come to your first business entrance which is a short time hotel. The hotel only asked for ID once out of 6 visits. But that was the last time I was there so not sure what is happening currently. Anyways, I believe all the girls are bad there. I only took the cute little spinner in front because the rest are fugly. I got her number a month ago and she wanted 40,000 paid upfront. I waited over a month. Finally I thought I would try it and hope for the best. She was horrible. Pulled her tube top like bra up but not off. Shoes still on and got into the doggie position. I did not play with her boobs or try other positions. I knew I had a lemon. If I tried anything else with her I would have become deflated and never got back up again. There goes $13 good hard earned dollars. Someone please start a Go-Fund-Me page for me to get my money back.
There are a bunch of pick pockets in that group. 3 that I know of. I have not been bothered during the day but at 6:00 pm when it starts getting dark they try to grab onto you grabbing your ass, junk, and fake hug. There is a black girl, a Latin girl, and a fat ugly sickly pale white looking girl. The fat one was walking towards me with a skinny guy friend with her. She tried to hug the guy walking in front of me and I saw in her hand the 5000 bill she won off the local guy as she past by me.
Some Downer Dating Attempts:
I normally pay 50,000 and had a few no shows during the lock down days. One claimed she could not find a baby sitter. I explained that everyone is trapped indoors during the lock down. How is that even possible? Anyways she came the next lock down weekend. She had 3 balloons with candy bars in some pretty arrangement she was taking to her niece after she left my place.
At Centro a girl wanted 50,000. I did not really want her but I had told her I would take her a week before until she quoted that price. All the others want 30,000 so her asking 50,000 told me she was going to be worthless and she was no big deal to be sure.
There is this one girl I was watching. Usually sitting next to a candy or coffee seller. Normally dresses in T-shirt and jeans (nothing sexy). Last week I saw her in a tight dress thing I did not like. Girl next door type with a little makeup, nice hair, new looking clothes. Never saw her go with anyone. She must have seen me at least twice minimum. Finally decided it was her turn and showed her 30,000 on my calculator. She said no and then types her price of 120,000. That answers why I had never seen her go with any guy.
Had a really big boob girl who was 2 months pregnant. It was great. But not the next day. Took her again. This time her neck tickled so could not kiss her there. Her boobs also tickled as I tried to suck on them. Deleted her number as soon as I was out the hotel door!
Coffee girl between the front of the Museum and the street. She is skinny with blondish light brown hair. Her boobs are mush. Sex was good though. I mention her because I saw her pull the neckline of her shirt down, squeeze her boob, and shoot a guy with her milk. So if you are looking for a coffee with real milk. Best get it quickly.
PN "The girls are much more emaciated and the weight loss is evident. "
Many girls have my number and they are not lighting up my phone. So after saying that and the examples listed above. Exactly where are these starving girls and the gang you spoke of before that runs everything in Centro? People everywhere around the world are hurting for money, but pretty girls are not. Nothing has changed with these girls during my 3 months Barranquilla or 2 months in Medellin. No replies, no shows, late, horrible performance, asking too much and not coming down with the price to where reality is.
As for the danger you speak of. I have 5 different pairs of plaid shorts and flip flops I wear. I might as well be wearing a shirt in Spanish that on the front says "Non-Spanish speaking lost foreigner" and the back "If your rob me. You are just practicing. I am poorer than you". I am short and always alone and largely get left alone. You make it sound so dangerous like guys need to come to you like you are an expert and they need you as a guide. It is not fair to the newbies that do not know what to believe. Now for the guys that have been coming here for years and believe you then they are in a world of hurt in paying attention and logical thinking. I speak no Spanish, have 1 month experience last year and 1 months currently. (Had to subtract a month for lock down and avoiding Botero at times. Girls getting mad I took them once but not a second time.) So I am not even hunting hard like I used to.
Danger:
My bad. There is danger. Sitting across from Premier Plaza Suite. Girl trying to talk to me around 7:00 pm got shit on her shoulder by a bird. Very tiny amount. Next week I made the mistake of sitting there at 8:00 and I felt something at my ankle. Thought it was a mosquito. Damn it! I got bird shit on my ankle and onto the heel of my sandals. Then at my hotel I noticed a spot on the back of my shirt from either a direct hit or leaning back in the chair. This is a true story. I shit you not and I fear being under trees at night in Botero.
Fun to be had:
I have had some really hot and fun girls. The last one is the best one. 18, big firm tits, flat tummy, pretty face with slight dimples, fun attitude. 9 or 10. Took her 2 days in a row and probably see her Saturday and Sunday this weekend. Praying she does not change hotels. She is 1.5 blocks away and right on time. Eventually I hope to do her friend. I would love to post her pix but afraid to ruin her gravy train if by chance one of you fools had met her before me and are sponsoring her now in her time of need.
Bad Short Time Hotels:
On Calle 51 near Carrera 53 is a D1 Store. If you walk out D1 Store. Across the street and to your right is a short time hotel. I noticed police outside twice. About a week later a girl took me there and in the first room to the right at the top of the stairs were 2-3 police in one of the rooms. The light was off so could not see well and did not want to stare. Never seen that before. I asked the girl later and she said the owner was friends with the police. Strange they were talking in a semi-dark room rather than in the office area. I will not go there. They are friends. But neither the owner nor the police are friends with me. I can vision many bad scenarios but few good ones. Though I have not noticed police there since.
Short walk to the corner short time hotel. The girls buy food downstairs and then go upstairs to eat in the ST hotel. Nice view of the action from there. Outside it is the one with the bars that curve around the top floor. But I hate that ST hotel. So loud and they are always banging on doors to kick people out. They also knock at the 20 minute mark from what I can tell from my 2 visits.
I should be leaving on the next humanitarian flight out in October if they continue. Any lurkers here that wants to learn what is really happening in Centro PM me. I will point out my bad, OK, and good girls. I can show you the lady boy area too. Hard to miss them. They were surrounding my earlier hotel. Not my thing. So I will walk you around, get my favorite donuts that is in that area, and leave you to it. 15 minute walk from Botero, 15 minutes to show you their location. I will not stop and chat with them. I do not want them to bother me when I get my donuts.
Now if someone wants to show me around to the few open casas or massage parlors that would be great. That is an arena I have not played in yet. It would save me much time since so many are closed.
Food:
Warning food porn! About 2 blocks away across from Miami Center is Los Torres Horno why Parrilla Cra. 53 #49-43. Opens noon to 6:00? Great smoked meat and lots of it! Better than grilled. I told him to give me the double meal for 35,000. He was hinting to the single for 25,000 but I wanted leftovers. He gave me a taste even though I did not need convincing. I was buying. The smell alone did that. Go by and take a taste test. If these girls only knew that if they put a touch of smoked bacon grease on their necks most of us could not resist them (so much better than flowery perfume).
Food warning. OK only about lettuce. They store the lettuce in cold water to keep crisp and so it does not brown. Problem is that the water from my salad run into my other food. My battered and fried fish was getting a bit soggy. Yuck. Same happened when eating tacos. The lettuce caused the tortilla shells to be soggy.
Travel:
I said it before (Barranquilla thread) and I will say it again. I just looked up bus tickets between cities in late September on the 2 sites below. No trips unless you meet very certain criteria. Read about my trip from BAQ to MED. You guys wishing upon a star really think the country will open international flights before or even at the same time that they open the busing between cities? Best be watching the bus sites before flight sites.
https://www.copetran.com
https://www.expresobrasilia.com/
Update: Ran into my 18 year old hottie and her friend around 7:00 pm about 5 blocks away from where we both have hotels. I was eating a 1000 peso ice cream cone. She wanted one so I handed her 2000 pesos. She simply put it in her pocket. They walked with me most of the way back to our hotels and she said she had not eaten and wanted bread since we were standing in front of a pastry shop. I told her BS. You both have 3-5 boyfriends. But handed her 10,000 pesos. Damn my 30 minute walk to get a 1000 peso cone cost me 13,000 pesos. She put the money in her pocket and they went there own way. No not into the pastry shop. But I knew that to start with.
Her friend that I wanted before. Not so much now. On our walk we past a watch store. She pointed at the watches and then at her friend. Same scenario as we past a store of tuxedos and fancy dresses. Then she pointed at the 1 meter tall stuffed animal (near the entrance of course) and then to her friend. People worldwide have money problems and she is pointing toward all this useless junk. Nothing ever changes with these girls. Always is the girl you want and her pain in the at $$ friend.
SpiderRider
08-27-20, 03:54
I don't think the better hospitals in Colombia are anything close to third world. They are rated very highly and I doubt there are any treatments that are "unknown" to them. Many international ratings put the Colombian health care system far ahead of the USA. Now. Before you get riled up. I believe that if you have great insurance or a lot of money there is some of the best health care in the world available in the USA. But, not available to everyone I've been told. Anyway, my main point is that the standards for doctors and medical procedures is very high in Colombia. The hospitals may not be as luxurious or sometimes as comfortable, but the skill levels and access to medical knowledge is there. But I don't want to have Covid there. Or anywhere for that matter.I haven't been inside a hospital here in Medellin or anywhere else in Colombia. I know, however, that my good friend's niece had a brain surgery that I am familiar with (aneurysm coiling procedure) in March or April (visiting restricted to parents only, 1 hour a day, that was cruel in my opinion) and it was a complete success.
If the US health care system is the key to staying safe from Coronavirus then how is it the US is the world leader in virus deaths? Is it a case of misleading statistics? Anyway, I think I agree it's best to stay away if you would not feel safe.I'd read this BBC article, the US is not the worse by per capita:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53780196
Gringo Trooper
08-27-20, 04:17
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Mojo Bandit
08-27-20, 04:28
I don't think the better hospitals in Colombia are anything close to third world. They are rated very highly I agree with you and a quick internet source research I did agrees with you also. Anyone familiar with the standard in the USA for a hospital to do business insurance / medicaid wise is Joint Commission accreditation. There is an international Joint Commission and there are Hospitals in Colombia that are certified. Two in Bogota, one in Medellin, one in Cali, and one in Floridablanca / Bucaramanga. The one in Medellin is Hospital Pablo Tobon Uribe.
https://www.worldhospitalsearch.org/hospital-search/?F_Country=Colombia&pg=2
It is worth mentioning that Joint Commission is a business and they are expensive so outside the USA just because a hospital is not accredited with them it might just mean they do not want to pay the expensive fees. It is not necessarily a reflection on the quality of the hospital. Colombia has been known as a "medical tourism" country where people come to get procedures that are much more expensive in USA so maybe they get the accreditation to attract people from outside the country.
Your question, if that what it is, isn't clear. I hope this helps:
There is health insurance available in Colombia and hospitals accept it. The plans vary by inclusions / exclusions, cost, and other conditions. If you were asking about insurance purchased outside of Colombia you should consult the insurer. Certain plans from other countries include or can be enhanced by international travel coverage. Apologies if I misinterpreted what you were getting at.
Do you know if they will take insurance in light of that upfront payment? Do you know how much they are asking for upfront? That may be a reason for me not to go.
In a weird way, Colombian hospitals bilking the government and insurance companies with Covid just like they are in the USA is refreshing to me in a weird way because they have been devoid of so many revenues from elective procedures. The treatment for Covid is heparin (cheap), steroids, (cheap), and oxygen (should be cheap). I think that people miss the point with Covid. Everyone is talking about death, but death rates are down. The thing is that people do get sick very quickly with Covid, and they need high dose oxygen right away.
When Sly one said that oxygen is in short supply in Peru, that clinched it for me, no fucking way am I going there if that is the case. Not having oxygen may be why the death rates are so high in Peru. He also indicated that they are not taking insurance only cash for oxygen.
Anyone interested in Colombia should probably do what is mandated in Brazil and buy health insurance when going to Colombia once it opens. It was dirt cheap for Brazil. For a two week trip, $20 got you $50,000 in coverage.
The question now is: will the hospitals just take the insurance or do they want thousands up front like the hospitals in Peru do? Does anyone here know?
GeneHickman
08-27-20, 05:33
What's the advice? I'm getting whiplash from trying to follow the discussion that now touches on Europe, New York and Arizona / Mexico. Surf touched on a salient point. Coronavirus is historically bad but there are many other health threats (including traumatic accidents) that can hit without warning. If there are doubts about surviving health care delivery in Colombia then it's not a place where you can live, or even play. If the US health care system is the key to staying safe from Coronavirus then how is it the US is the world leader in virus deaths? Is it a case of misleading statistics? Anyway, I think I agree it's best to stay away if you would not feel safe.The point is when weighing up risks its important to stay objective. That is not something most mongers do well faced with the prospect of youthful paisa pussy. 180 k deaths in the US so far, at this rate Colombia is on the way to the same numner per capita, just a couple of months behind, with the prospect of going even higher. As a comparison, in the US its roughly 40 k MVA deaths and a similar number of gun deaths......over and entire year! Yet that is a risk we have learnt to accept and live with. If you look at the locations caught off guard or that let be, then the death rates per capita was like 4-5 x the national average. Imagine if a place like MDE were to get to that. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be there through that period. I think by next summer everything blows over and its quite safe again. The risks of crime and car accidents are on the low side compared to this real and present contagious disease in a society where community spread is rampant.
Sure each monger will decide for himself, and maybe a young, fit, 30 yr old will not care. I am not here to comvince anyone, but framing the risk as just another similar level to the usual risk is not accurate.
Black Page
08-27-20, 09:54
Humanitarian Flights cannot be cancelled once they are scheduled. Only Commercial Flights are allowed to be cancelled.What is the point of scheduling "humanitarian flights" (let us reflect on the meaning of the word "humanitarian") and bearing their high cost, when there are commercial regular flights scheduled?
The point is when weighing up risks its important to stay objective. That is not something most mongers do well faced with the prospect of youthful paisa pussy. 180 k deaths in the US so far, at this rate Colombia is on the way to the same numner per capita, just a couple of months behind, with the prospect of going even higher. As a comparison, in the US its roughly 40 k MVA deaths and a similar number of gun deaths......over and entire year! Yet that is a risk we have learnt to accept and live with. If you look at the locations caught off guard or that let be, then the death rates per capita was like 4-5 x the national average. Imagine if a place like MDE were to get to that. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be there through that period. I think by next summer everything blows over and its quite safe again. The risks of crime and car accidents are on the low side compared to this real and present contagious disease in a society where community spread is rampant.
Sure each monger will decide for himself, and maybe a young, fit, 30 yr old will not care. I am not here to comvince anyone, but framing the risk as just another similar level to the usual risk is not accurate.I never knew that gun deaths and automobile accident deaths were contagious.
SlapShot10
08-27-20, 14:51
What is the point of scheduling "humanitarian flights" (let us reflect on the meaning of the word "humanitarian") and bearing their high cost, when there are commercial regular flights scheduled?I don't have an answer for your question, but my tongue-in-cheek point is that I highly doubt the government / Minister of Transport / etc. would make a decision so far in advance that no humanitarian flights would need to be cancelled. It is a fluid situation that is being investigated and prepared for on a daily basis. So, the job of the foreign governments is to provide humanitarian flights. The job of the local government is to open international travel when they see fit. Those will likely overlap, and thus, humanitarian flights will be cancelled once commercial flights are approved to open. I thought it was funny that because a humanitarian flight is scheduled a month from now, we should assume that means something can't change. Everyone does realize we've had the quarantine extended about 8 times, here, and there have been about 15 target dates for travel re-opening discussed on this board? When Duque announces a date for international travel to open, the humanitarian flights will stop, and any future dates will be removed. This isn't rocket science.
If theres the presence of humanitarian flights it means no other international flights. Until humanatarian flights become non existent then there will be no other international flights. Its you who don't have a clue.
.This is not true. Humanitarian flights are coordinated between the embassies of different nations and the airlines. That's why when one is scheduled, they go ahead and announce it (I. E. For American citizens, this airline, this date etc). International flights depend on bilateral agreements between the countries, humanitarian flights do not have anything to do with international. To give an example, Iberia and Avianca have operated humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. The same with Spirit and between the USA and Colombia. If Colombia has bilateral agreements with Mexico, Peru, Chile etc. It can restart international flights between Colombia and those countries, while also allowing humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. Just because there are humanitarian flights taking place, it does not mean international flights cannot restart.
On further note, the Ministry of Health mentioned today that international flights are eligible to resume after September 1st, the question will be what routes between what countries because those all depend on bilateral agreements, entry restrictions, etc. A number of factors. But what is clear is that the restriction to not allow international flights which has been in place since March, it will be removed as planned. Proof of a covid negative test will be required, and since it was stated that the reasoning behind lifting of the restrictions is "if biosecurity measures established are met by the airlines, the probability of a traveler being infected by Covid-19 is less than 1%" citing a recent study which concluded that the risk of contracting covid-19 during travel is no greater a risk than any other day-to-day activities. So my assumption is that they will not have a 14 day quarantine requirement, unless certain above risk countries are identified where cases are rising significantly. Some regional latin american countries probably will get the nod first before the USA but I don't think we will be far behind, since we have bilateral relations established with Colombia. But again, humanitarian flights and international flights are two very different things and just because one is operating between countries does not mean the other cannot between other countries until humanitarian flights end. That is silly.
Elvis 2008
08-27-20, 15:43
https://www.eltiempo.com/economia/sectores/coronavirus-en-colombia-minsalud-autoriza-vuelos-internacionales-533854?fbclid=IwAR0A5nXb3AijzE5gg6bKbcZyhVmRcvBIQCXRo_1Cb8UHCYwrbAgWi-JxaNo
It is official. I am confused as hell at the moment.
This is not true. Humanitarian flights are coordinated between the embassies of different nations and the airlines. That's why when one is scheduled, they go ahead and announce it (I. E. For American citizens, this airline, this date etc). International flights depend on bilateral agreements between the countries, humanitarian flights do not have anything to do with international. To give an example, Iberia and Avianca have operated humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. The same with Spirit and between the USA and Colombia. If Colombia has bilateral agreements with Mexico, Peru, Chile etc. It can restart international flights between Colombia and those countries, while also allowing humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. Just because there are humanitarian flights taking place, it does not mean international flights cannot restart.
On further note, the Ministry of Health mentioned today that international flights are eligible to resume after September 1st, the question will be what routes between what countries because those all depend on bilateral agreements, entry restrictions, etc. A number of factors. But what is clear is that the restriction to not allow international flights which has been in place since March, it will be removed as planned. Proof of a covid negative test will be required, and since it was stated that the reasoning behind lifting of the restrictions is "if biosecurity measures established are met by the airlines, the probability of a traveler being infected by Covid-19 is less than 1%" citing a recent study which concluded that the risk of contracting covid-19 during travel is no greater a risk than any other day-to-day activities..Thank you for this encouraging and well reasoned post! Here is the link to support the facts you have mentioned https://www.eltiempo.com/economia/sectores/coronavirus-en-colombia-minsalud-autoriza-vuelos-internacionales-533854.
For people like me, who are dying to get back to Medellin, a 14 day mandatory quarantine and needing to go through a secondary Latin America country that is in the first wave of allow countries is not a problem.
Just Incognito
08-27-20, 16:59
This is not true. Humanitarian flights are coordinated between the embassies of different nations and the airlines. That's why when one is scheduled, they go ahead and announce it (I. E. For American citizens, this airline, this date etc). International flights depend on bilateral agreements between the countries, humanitarian flights do not have anything to do with international. To give an example, Iberia and Avianca have operated humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. The same with Spirit and between the USA and Colombia. If Colombia has bilateral agreements with Mexico, Peru, Chile etc. It can restart international flights between Colombia and those countries, while also allowing humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. Just because there are humanitarian flights taking place, it does not mean international flights cannot restart.But, why even offer the humanitarian flights now if they are just going to have regular international flight--probably to / from the same destinations as the humanitarian flights-anyway? It makes no sense. If they were about to open up international flights in a week or 2. They wouldn't need to offer 'humanitarian' flights now.
Just Incognito
08-27-20, 17:06
Damn dude, I don't know what kind of licensed medical professional you were, but if you were to get sick, I mean like ICU level sick, costs aside, there is no better place to be than in the US. Heck most 3rd world hospitals haven't even heard of far less have ecmo treatment for example, but like I said, to each their own, rationalization is a powerful thing, especially when youthful warm pussy is calling..[Deleted by Admin] Sorry, but the US really isn't 'exceptional' on most things. Americans are not living in the most free country and the world, they don't have the most rights, and they don't have the best medical care -or medical system.
I'd much rather be in most hospitals in Northern Europe if I had Covid-19. I would trust the care more in some places in southeast Asia as well (Taiwan, South Korea, Thailand, Singapore). I think you might get better overall care in Costa Rica for this as well.
I had some medical work in Colombia--better care than anything I ever had in the US-I was genuinely impressed with the medical facilities and hospital in Barranquilla! (Though, maybe, with the specifics of covid Colombia wouldn't be preferable to the US).
I would also trust the Covid medial treatments in Australia and New Zealand over any medical facility in the US.
Two questions: 1. What is the source of your statement that "proof of a covid negative test will be required"? 2. What is the definition of proof?
This is not true. Humanitarian flights are coordinated between the embassies of different nations and the airlines. That's why when one is scheduled, they go ahead and announce it (I. E. For American citizens, this airline, this date etc). International flights depend on bilateral agreements between the countries, humanitarian flights do not have anything to do with international. To give an example, Iberia and Avianca have operated humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. The same with Spirit and between the USA and Colombia. If Colombia has bilateral agreements with Mexico, Peru, Chile etc. It can restart international flights between Colombia and those countries, while also allowing humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. Just because there are humanitarian flights taking place, it does not mean international flights cannot restart.
On further note, the Ministry of Health mentioned today that international flights are eligible to resume after September 1st, the question will be what routes between what countries because those all depend on bilateral agreements, entry restrictions, etc. A number of factors. But what is clear is that the restriction to not allow international flights which has been in place since March, it will be removed as planned. Proof of a covid negative test will be required, and since it was stated that the reasoning behind lifting of the restrictions is "if biosecurity measures established are met by the airlines, the probability of a traveler being infected by Covid-19 is less than 1%" citing a recent study which concluded that the risk of contracting covid-19 during travel is no greater a risk than any other day-to-day activities. So my assumption is that they will not have a 14 day quarantine requirement, unless certain above risk countries are identified where cases are rising significantly. Some regional latin american countries probably will get the nod first before the USA but I don't think we will be far behind, since we have bilateral relations established with Colombia..
I am in the united states. And if there is humanitarian flights to the United States, it means theres no other airlines flying into the country at those times. I can give 2 shit about other countries. I do not live there. But I respect your technical assessment. I think slapshortie excuse I mean slapshot probably agrees.
This is not true. Humanitarian flights are coordinated between the embassies of different nations and the airlines. That's why when one is scheduled, they go ahead and announce it (I. E. For American citizens, this airline, this date etc). International flights depend on bilateral agreements between the countries, humanitarian flights do not have anything to do with international. To give an example, Iberia and Avianca have operated humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. The same with Spirit and between the USA and Colombia. If Colombia has bilateral agreements with Mexico, Peru, Chile etc. It can restart international flights between Colombia and those countries, while also allowing humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. Just because there are humanitarian flights taking place, it does not mean international flights cannot restart.
On further note, the Ministry of Health mentioned today that international flights are eligible to resume after September 1st, the question will be what routes between what countries because those all depend on bilateral agreements, entry restrictions, etc. A number of factors. But what is clear is that the restriction to not allow international flights which has been in place since March, it will be removed as planned. Proof of a covid negative test will be required, and since it was stated that the reasoning behind lifting of the restrictions is "if biosecurity measures established are met by the airlines, the probability of a traveler being infected by Covid-19 is less than 1%" citing a recent study which concluded that the risk of contracting covid-19 during travel is no greater a risk than any other day-to-day activities. So my assumption is that they will not have a 14 day quarantine requirement, unless certain above risk countries are identified where cases are rising significantly. Some regional latin american countries probably will get the nod first before the USA but I don't think we will be far behind, since we have bilateral relations established with Colombia. But again, humanitarian flights and international flights are two very different things and just because one is operating between countries does not mean the other cannot between other countries until humanitarian flights end. That is silly..
The new 5 minute $5 Abbott test 97% accuracy will come with an app that actually will display results. There are others coming as well. Should be widely available in two months. You can buy a bunch and test chicas too.
Two questions: 1. What is the source of your statement that "proof of a covid negative test will be required"? 2. What is the definition of proof?
SlapShot10
08-27-20, 19:43
I am in the united states. And if there is humanitarian flights to the United States, it means theres no other airlines flying into the country at those times. I can give 2 shit about other countries. I do not live there. But I respect your technical assessment. I think slapshortie excuse I mean slapshot probably agrees.
.Wackman, you're turning into Trump, with these well-thought-out schoolyard nicknames! I love it!
The other countries part is a grey area, but like SJobs said, it would be a big gaping wet loophole for a guy like him that is willing to do whatever it takes to get back to paradise.
Really though, are we to assume that just because the US is offering humanitarian flights, that the Colombian government will have to wait until after the ultimate-scheduled flight to announce there will be international commercial flights? That sounds like an infinite amount of time, because the US has the responsibility to continue to offer those flights until normal commercial / tourism flights are available. Chicken or the egg. I would take the over on. 5 humanitarian flights being cancelled in conjunction with an announcement about commercial travel opening. Stay tuned, this is riveting stuff!
Has anyone been to centro this week? Any changes in the crowd / vibe as all this news has been coming out?
You just made my point duh. As long as humanitarian flights are running means comercials are not. When commercial starts there will be no need for humanitarian flights.
Wackman, you're turning into Trump, with these well-thought-out schoolyard nicknames! I love it!
The other countries part is a grey area, but like SJobs said, it would be a big gaping wet loophole for a guy like him that is willing to do whatever it takes to get back to paradise.
Really though, are we to assume that just because the US is offering humanitarian flights, that the Colombian government will have to wait until after the ultimate-scheduled flight to announce there will be international commercial flights? That sounds like an infinite amount of time, because the US has the responsibility to continue to offer those flights until normal commercial / tourism flights are available. Chicken or the egg. I would take the over on. 5 humanitarian flights being cancelled in conjunction with an announcement about commercial travel opening. Stay tuned, this is riveting stuff!
Has anyone been to centro this week? Any changes in the crowd / vibe as all this news has been coming out?.
MarquisdeSade1
08-27-20, 21:57
Thank you for this encouraging and well reasoned post! Here is the link to support the facts you have mentioned https://www.eltiempo.com/economia/sectores/coronavirus-en-colombia-minsalud-autoriza-vuelos-internacionales-533854.
For people like me, who are dying to get back to Medellin, a 14 day mandatory quarantine and needing to go through a secondary Latin America country that is in the first wave of allow countries is not a problem.I don't know about anyone else but can I say reading your posts only makes a bad situation worse for me, the endless pining, your thirst is quite depressing, at least to me, yes many of us want to get there ASAP.
But I don't write about it on here, over and over and over and over.
PolloNegro
08-27-20, 22:39
Wackman, you're turning into Trump, with these well-thought-out schoolyard nicknames! I love it!
The other countries part is a grey area, but like SJobs said, it would be a big gaping wet loophole for a guy like him that is willing to do whatever it takes to get back to paradise.
Really though, are we to assume that just because the US is offering humanitarian flights, that the Colombian government will have to wait until after the ultimate-scheduled flight to announce there will be international commercial flights? That sounds like an infinite amount of time, because the US has the responsibility to continue to offer those flights until normal commercial / tourism flights are available. Chicken or the egg. I would take the over on. 5 humanitarian flights being cancelled in conjunction with an announcement about commercial travel opening. Stay tuned, this is riveting stuff!
Has anyone been to centro this week? Any changes in the crowd / vibe as all this news has been coming out?Everything is still blocked off except the walk way! Pollo negro is out!
That did not answer either of my questions but thank you for responding anyway.
The new 5 minute $5 Abbott test 97% accuracy will come with an app that actually will display results. There are others coming as well. Should be widely available in two months. You can buy a bunch and test chicas too.
I don't know how reputable this source is but I've just read this:
https://www.infobae.com/america/colombia/2020/08/27/colombia-lanzo-un-plan-para-reactivar-con-fuerza-el-turismo-en-todo-el-pais-desde-la-semana-proxima/?fbclid=IwAR3iStalkrcH0uVvAXMdvvM9EzpCThVwN3pkstZ-m43H4tYvXJoLzUqF5LI
As always use the info as you will.
For me, I am holding off, I'm hoping for Nov-Dec but I'm willing to wait, I've got a few I've lasso'd that keep me entertained on Whatsapp.
Two questions: 1. What is the source of your statement that "proof of a covid negative test will be required"? 2. What is the definition of proof?1. Articles out there now which state this. This is what the Transport Minister has stated. "Lo que sí tenemos claro es que se eliminaría la restriccióand al ingreso a partir del 1 de septiembre, que probablemente se exigiría prueba de covid".
2. Proof. Likely a negative PCR test within 48-72 hours of departure. 5 minute rapid tests from Abbott will be out in September, and the government just acquired 150 million of them. I'm also guessing that based off the statement from the transport minister that testing may be done on arrival, what kind of testing and how fast that would be, I do not know. It's reasonable to assume it follows the model of how other countries are doing this and more are leaning on the side of rapid testing or requiring a negative before departure to avoid doing the 14-day quarantine. I mean, that's just a trip killer anyways. We shall see what the days to come reveal.
Elvis 2008
08-28-20, 01:33
I don't know how reputable this source is but I've just read this:
https://www.infobae.com/america/colombia/2020/08/27/colombia-lanzo-un-plan-para-reactivar-con-fuerza-el-turismo-en-todo-el-pais-desde-la-semana-proxima/?fbclid=IwAR3iStalkrcH0uVvAXMdvvM9EzpCThVwN3pkstZ-m43H4tYvXJoLzUqF5LI
For me, I am holding off, I'm hoping for Nov-Dec but I'm willing to wait, I've got a few I've lasso'd that keep me entertained on Whatsapp.Luminus,
One of my chicas sent me a similar link. It looks like Colombia is getting ready to open up. Now they have to get things set up with the airlines and the like, but it looks like it is going to happen pretty soon. If the Colombian Department of Health is on board, unless things change drastically, my bet is that we will see a few flights open up this month, and I am shocked that this is happening.
Elvis 2008
08-28-20, 01:53
Hello,
It has been about 6 months in which we have all had to pause our life, as we knew it, to adapt to a new reality that has made us more supportive, empathetic and resilient. But it is time to return to fly high and resume those plans to explore the world!
Therefore, today we are very happy to be able to tell you that, as of September 3, 2020, Wingo takes off again to fly, initially, through the skies of Colombia and, we hope very soon, by those of the entire region with our unique combination of always safe flights, low prices, flexibility and good vibes. So pack your suitcase again and get ready to take care of yourself, but without stopping living.
During those months ashore, we have not rested for a single moment and we have prepared for this great day that we were looking forward to with great anxiety:
1. We design robust biosecurity and cleaning protocols to guarantee your safety and that of your family.
2. As a guarantee of our commitment to you, ICONTEC granted us its CheckIn Certified quality seal and the Certification in Biosafety Operations, after an exhaustive evaluation of our processes.
3. We renew all the circulation systems and high-efficiency air filters of our aircraft so that you breathe air up to 99.9% free of viruses and bacteria during all our flights.
4. We designed a unique line of uniforms for our crews that includes textiles with repellency technology that prevents fluid transfer, further raising the level of protection for everyone on our aircraft.
5. We created a new boarding model that will allow us to avoid crowds when you fly with us.
6. We became even more flexible and therefore decided to always include a free date change when you buy a ticket at Wingo.
7. We have all trained ourselves to take care of you and take care of ourselves because #We only think about flying.
And for that reason, we now count the days to meet again from September 3. Initially we will operate flights between Bogotá and Cartagena, but we are confident that together we will continue to overcome the pandemic so that the authorities of the region reopen their borders and we can fly together again to the best destinations in Latin America and the Caribbean.
Wingo will continue to be there for you because the violet tone that characterizes our good vibes takes the skies again.
See you on board very soon.
Assuming that travel to Colombia from USA is possible in the next few months. I think it might be wise to buy health insurance coverage in Colombia for the trip, instead of trying to depend on coverage from outside Colombia and trying to deal with coverage / acceptance etc.
Can anyone post the health insurance information available in Colombia for visitors. I think a compilation of insurance information and options would be a great resource for making travel plans.
Found this picture on my phone from one of my previous trips, and exploring the Centro area.
I believe it is from around December 2019. It feels like a lifetime ago.
I don't know about anyone else but can I say reading your posts only makes a bad situation worse for me, the endless pining, your thirst is quite depressing, at least to me, yes many of us want to get there ASAP.
But I don't write about it on here, over and over and over and over.It's amazing how you could be depressed among all these encouraging news. The door of heaven is about to open, cheer up! By the way, I did share a credible link in my post, it's not all pointless pining. Anyways, I haven't been this happy for a long time, since this fucking lock down started. I got my tickets ready and my 18 year-olds lined up. Instead of being depressed, why don't you try to do the same.
We can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel.
https://colombia.as.com/colombia/2020/08/27/actualidad/1598555877_274030.html
This is good news is the Colombian Airline industry is ramping up, getting ready for business. Unfortunately, don't expect international flights till November. Here is the article: https://www.pulzo.com/nacion/avianca-abre-12-destinos-desde-dorado-primero-septiembre-PP959633.
This is good news is the Colombian Airline industry is ramping up, getting ready for business. Unfortunately, don't expect international flights till November. Here is the article: https://www.pulzo.com/nacion/avianca-abre-12-destinos-desde-dorado-primero-septiembre-PP959633.Unless I missed it, didn't see anything about November for international flights in the article.
This is good news is the Colombian Airline industry is ramping up, getting ready for business. Unfortunately, don't expect international flights till November. Here is the article: https://www.pulzo.com/nacion/avianca-abre-12-destinos-desde-dorado-primero-septiembre-PP959633.You can forget about Bogota for the September opening. But it is almost certain Medellin or other cities will open in September. I'm in the talks with rental agency and other professional groups who depend on gringo business, at the moment, the general consensus is that there will be flights to Medellin or other cities in Colombia from the US in September, we just don't know when. I have already reserved and paid for my favorite penthouse for 6 months stay, starting 9/8th. I don't care if I get there on 9/29th. Some of the amazing places that I always want to rent but are never available are wide open right now, it's a buyers market. Don't wait.
https://caracol.com.co/emisora/2020/08/27/medellin/1598557846_853593.html
https://www.eltiempo.com/economia/sectores/coronavirus-en-colombia-los-cinco-paises-con-los-que-volverian-vuelos-internacionales-533936
Thank you, this answers my questions indirectly. 1. Second hand reports about government declarations. I read the government declarations themselves. The health and transport ministries have in fact cleared the way for international flights to resume as of September 1. 2. You don't know what the government's definition of proof would be and the government has not yet declared test results would be a condition of entry.
1. Articles out there now which state this. This is what the Transport Minister has stated. "Lo que s tenemos claro es que se eliminara la restricciand al ingreso a partir del 1 de septiembre, que probablemente se exigira prueba de covid".
2. Proof. Likely a negative PCR test within 48-72 hours of departure. 5 minute rapid tests from Abbott will be out in September, and the government just acquired 150 million of them. I'm also guessing that based off the statement from the transport minister that testing may be done on arrival, what kind of testing and how fast that would be, I do not know. It's reasonable to assume it follows the model of how other countries are doing this and more are leaning on the side of rapid testing or requiring a negative before departure to avoid doing the 14-day quarantine. I mean, that's just a trip killer anyways. We shall see what the days to come reveal.
It was on the last paragraph of the article, the negotiations between countries and those that are open to travel now including Brazil and Mexico. I guess they deleted it.
Unless I missed it, didn't see anything about November for international flights in the article.
27 August 2020.
Colombia begins recovery.
Share share.
27 August 2020.
Colombian President Iváand Duque Márquez has announced 15 airports will reopen in September, including Bogota. This is an important step for the necessary restart of aviation in the country.
"Air transport is an essential public service that people need for different reasons, such as work, health, family or leisure purposes," said Peter Cerdá, IATA's Regional Vice President for the Americas. "Aviation's restart is good news which will allow for the resumption of mobility and integration of the country. With this decision, the sector and its extensive value chain, which includes tourism and commerce in Colombia, can begin to rebuild. While this is the first step towards a total reopening, we call on the government to continue the open channels of communication with the industry that will allow us to commence the process for also reactivating international flights. ".
Cerdá thanked the Colombian President and his Minister of Transport, Angela María Orozco, the Minister of Health, Fernando Ruiz, the Director of Aerocivil, Juan Carlos Salazar and the respective mayors for their openness and willingness to collaborate with the industry.
"During the meeting with the authorities, we conveyed our wish to continue working together to increase the available capacity and facilitate the exchange of global best practices to ensure the safety of passengers and employees," he added.
With the biosafety protocols approved by Colombian authorities and implemented by the industry, aviation will not become a vector for spreading the virus. The industry has demonstrated that all safeguards exist to restart the industry. Proof of this are the more than 70,000 passengers who have traveled in the last five months on humanitarian flights and the first test route between Bucaramanga and seeúcuta, which has transported more than 1,000 passengers. No known COVID-19 transmissions have been reported from these flights.
"Air transport is an essential public service that people need for different reasons, such as work, health, family or leisure purposes," said Peter Cerdá, IATA's Regional Vice President for the Americas. "Aviation's restart is good news which will allow for the resumption of mobility and integration of the country. With this decision, the sector and its extensive value chain, which includes tourism and commerce in Colombia, can begin to rebuild. While this is the first step towards a total reopening, we call on the government to continue the open channels of communication with the industry that will allow us to commence the process for also reactivating international flights. ".
Cerdá thanked the Colombian President and his Minister of Transport, Angela María Orozco, the Minister of Health, Fernando Ruiz, the Director of Aerocivil, Juan Carlos Salazar and the respective mayors for their openness and willingness to collaborate with the industry.
"During the meeting with the authorities, we conveyed our wish to continue working together to increase the available capacity and facilitate the exchange of global best practices to ensure the safety of passengers and employees," he added.
With the biosafety protocols approved by Colombian authorities and implemented by the industry, aviation will not become a vector for spreading the virus. The industry has demonstrated that all safeguards exist to restart the industry. Proof of this are the more than 70,000 passengers who have traveled in the last five months on humanitarian flights and the first test route between Bucaramanga and seeúcuta, which has transported more than 1,000 passengers. No known COVID-19 transmissions have been reported from these flights.
Before the crisis, aviation generated some US $ 7. 5 billion to the Colombian economy, equivalent to 2. 7% of the country's GDP, and supports some 600,000 direct and indirect jobs.
"There are still several issues that need to be resolved," concluded Cerdá. "However, aviation will once again take off in Colombia. This will allow our industry to become one of the pillars of the economic recovery of the country after the pandemic. ".
Before the crisis, aviation generated some US $ 7. 5 billion to the Colombian economy, equivalent to 2. 7% of the country's GDP, and supports some 600,000 direct and indirect jobs.
"There are still several issues that need to be resolved," concluded Cerdá. "However, aviation will once again take off in Colombia. This will allow our industry to become one of the pillars of the economic recovery of the country after the pandemic. ".
Blakman, enough of the cut and paste please. We can read the news on a news site if that's what we want.
27 August 2020.
Colombia begins recovery.
Share share..Thanks for posting this translated version of the news from yesterday. A few of us already posted similar ones. Now duque has officially given the go ahead, it's upto the majors to open the airports. It is an absolute fact that the major of Medellin as well as Rionegro are dying to open their airport to the US. I have posted links where they publicly expressed their desire, in almost the same degree that I expressed my desire for 18-year-old pussy. I wouldn't count on Bogota though, they have a more strict mayor. The earliest flight I can find is on 9/4 going through Bogota, but I don't have much confidence in that flight, I betting on the one on 9/10th flight going through Florida directly to Medellin.
SlapShot10
08-28-20, 15:06
You just made my point duh. As long as humanitarian flights are running means comercials are not. When commercial starts there will be no need for humanitarian flights.
.If this is the indicator, then what is all the speculation and arguing about?! Just tell us when the last scheduled humanitarian flight is, and everyone can book tickets to MDE for the following day.
Again, the US is responsible for scheduling humanitarian flights. That has little to no effect on the Colombian Travel Ministry's decision to open commercial / tourism travel Thus, it is extremely likely that there will be a scheduling overlap, which will lead to humanitarian flights that are currently scheduled being removed / cancelled, as normal travel opens. I don't understand the thought process behind thinking the United States' humanitarian flight schedule supersedes all other flight schedules or plans. Your scenario insinuates that the Colombian government is sitting at the roundtable, looking only at the US humanitarian flight schedule, and saying, "Oh shit, we can't open on Sep 1 because there is a Spirit humanitarian flight from BOG-FLL on Sep 3! Ok, how about Sep 7? Nope! MDE-FLL on Sep 9. (Calls the White House) When should we open international flights to and from the US? 'Instead of us canceling any flights, like we have been doing for 6 months, why don't you wait until after our next 6 humanitarian flights to open normal travel, because that makes a ton of sense? Spain calls, "When will you open international flights?" Colombia, "We're waiting until after all of the US' scheduled humanitarian flights. ".
Spirit Airlines is not going to stay awake at night because you paid $300 for a humanitarian flight that is now cancelled and they are offering as a credit towards a $500 commercial flight.
I typically avoid this type of banter in this setting, but this is just too easy to get sucked into. I will withhold any future comments until a simple, "I told you so!" Remember, my entire point is that more than. 5 humanitarian flights will be cancelled, when all is said and done. Nothing more, nothing less.
The manager of my apartment said she'd send a contract for the next month, a few days ago. I haven't received anything. I'm guessing with the rumblings, this week, that she and the company brass are getting hot an bothered about the prospects of planeloads of gringos coming down hoping to pay exorbitant amounts on Medellin penthouses, in the near future. Despite them having 8-10 other comps available, she will be licking her chops to put the full-court press on me. I'm thinking about extending longer than a month, if I can lock-in my current rate.
Knowledge, any scoop on the casas' re-opening schedule / plan? I was walking on La 70, yesterday, and realized I have no clue where the local spots are that Blakman and others have reported on. I was about to pull up the WorldTraveler69 map, but Pinky was waiting at home and I was hungry.
The Tall Man
08-28-20, 15:40
For those of us who have been around for some time we have made statements about how a city or place or country and it's chicas / P4P scene was like "before things changed for the worse".
As for myself I have made posts such as these reminiscing about places I had been to in years long gone bye:
"Oh what fun I had at the clubs in Moscow back in the mid 1990's where I partied like a rock-star".
"You should have seen the party atmosphere at HELP in Rio in the late 90's and early 2000's before it closed down".
"Cuba / Havana is now about hard-core putas, you should have seen it back in the day".
"Ah Tijuana (Tijuana, Baja California) has changed so much since the good old days in the 90's, now it is all so commercialized business like".
Well as time never stops and as the world is still coping with the Corona Virus, in 10 or 20 years we will be writing and reminiscing about the year 2020 and the places were we happened to be stuck in and how we made lemons into lemonade during the pandemic.
For myself it will probably sound something like this:
(Me) "Oh let me tell you what Medellin was like in the year 2020 during the lock-down and crisis, first of all I took in two 18 year old non-pro Venezuelan girls into my apartment during the quarantine which lasted almost 6 months, I provided housing and a safe place to sleep with TV / Netflix / Music / Food, they both were at my beckoning call at anytime I desired, at times I would have one or the other sleep with me or sleep with one and make an early morning visit to the others bed for sex. Not a pesos was exchanged. I also had a handful of chicas over to my apartment during this time, some were repeats of my ATF paisas and other were new chicas. No drama as the chicas all realizing that they were in a survival mode as there was severe economic problems and no tourists nor any of them had any other opportunity for survival.
A few times each week, during those 6 months, I would venture into centro and find me a cute 18 to 22 yo all natural non-pro whom I could have for 25 to 70 mil and they were happy and full of gratitude to earn this money. To mix things up a bit I would from time to time venture in to the calf area around midnight, this is over in San Diego, and cruise in my car and find a real cutie for either a blow job or sex in my car in the mountains above Medellin and usually would pay 30 to 60 mil all depending. Then I had about a dozen of really good girls 18 to 23 yo that I had known for 2 or 3 years prior, trying to fit them into the mix and get with them.
Other times I would peruse through Tinder where I got over 200 connections and see what I could find, then other times I would be contacted by a chicas friend of a friend who needed help so headed into a motel and enjoyed a few hours of great sex with a 19 year old all natural cutie who could be a teen model for Ambercrombie and Fitch clothing, I kid you not and they would be happy with 80 mil and was treated like a king.
There was also the FaceBook chicas at the time along with independent apartment chicas, then friends of friends I would meet at clandestine finca parties in the mountains. So many opportunities for so little money and the service was off the charts. My body could never keep up with the dozens of chicas texting me almost every day wanting to get together. It was everywhere at every turn. Heck I had to shut down my cell phone as it would be lighting up like a Christmas tree in December non-stop, I needed a break from it all.
Oh now those were the day! Too bad those times are long gone in Medellin, you should have seen it back in the day"!
That is how my story of events will read back in the day of 2020.
So the question is, what will your story sound like?
The Tall Man.
I will withhold any future comments until a simple, "I told you so!"I will be certain Colombia is open only when SJobs has landed.
I would also trust the Covid medial treatments in Australia and New Zealand over any medical facility in the US.It may sound strange, but the reason I will trust US doctors more is because they have more experience treating Covid patients. They have made many discoveries about Covid. That I think it shows the strength of US doctors and researchers. I have been with my current doctor for more than half of my life and there is no reason that I should trust other doctors more.
This is good news is the Colombian Airline industry is ramping up, getting ready for business. Unfortunately, don't expect international flights till November. Here is the article: https://www.pulzo.com/nacion/avianca-abre-12-destinos-desde-dorado-primero-septiembre-PP959633.From the USA Embassy, Bogata (sent today via email):
"President Duque announced the extension of the national health emergency until November 30 and the transition from compulsory isolation to selective isolation. Some national restrictions remain:8239;The national government maintains a number of restrictions on activities and requirements to secure public health, including but not limited to: International borders remain closed, and international commercial flights suspended".
Elvis 2008
08-28-20, 18:38
From the USA Embassy, Bogata (sent today via email):
"President Duque announced the extension of the national health emergency until November 30 and the transition from compulsory isolation to selective isolation. Some national restrictions remain:8239;The national government maintains a number of restrictions on activities and requirements to secure public health, including but not limited to: International borders remain closed, and international commercial flights suspended".Lou,
That is technically correct, but there are two things. International travel is closed until the airlines pass the safety protocols. No one has passed yet, but the signs are it is going to happen this month. There are things that have to be worked out but one of my chicas has told me about the route most likely to be open first, and I am guessing it will be by the end of the month.
As for American embassies and the state department in general, they are always trying to keep Americans out of potentially unsafe situations as they are responsible for having to help Americans out who get into trouble abroad. Not so much in Colombia but in Peru, the government just closed off all flights and left Americans stranded there. At least, Colombia gave some notice. I am sure the embassy in Peru was working over time to secure flights back to the USA, and I think they finally did get some, but it sounds like it was a massive headache.
If I were in the American embassy, I would be telling people not to come too because of the travel ban trigger fingers many South American nations have had. I wouldn't want to deal with Americans screaming, "Help, get me home!
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