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SJobs
08-28-20, 20:31
From the USA Embassy, Bogata (sent today via email):

"President Duque announced the extension of the national health emergency until November 30 and the transition from compulsory isolation to selective isolation. Some national restrictions remain:8239;The national government maintains a number of restrictions on activities and requirements to secure public health, including but not limited to: International borders remain closed, and international commercial flights suspended".Man, I don't know who to trust anymore. According to this article today, https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/protocolo-de-vuelos-internacionales-en-colombia-con-paises-prosur-EF13525427 , (From one of the most credible news paper in Colombia), the president has decided to let some of the South America countries in, in September. As a US citizen, we can still legally go to Ecuador, after completing a 14 day quarantine, we should be able to get back into Medellin. This is a viable path for some of us.

Kafka
08-28-20, 20:35
Lou,

That is technically correct, but there are two things. International travel is closed until the airlines pass the safety protocols. No one has passed yet, but the signs are it is going to happen this month. There are things that have to be worked out but one of my chicas has told me about the route most likely to be open first, and I am guessing it will be by the end of the month.

As for American embassies and the state department in general, they are always trying to keep Americans out of potentially unsafe situations as they are responsible for having to help Americans out who get into trouble abroad. Not so much in Colombia but in Peru, the government just closed off all flights and left Americans stranded there. At least, Colombia gave some notice. I am sure the embassy in Peru was working over time to secure flights back to the USA, and I think they finally did get some, but it sounds like it was a massive headache.

If I were in the American embassy, I would be telling people not to come too because of the travel ban trigger fingers many South American nations have had. I wouldn't want to deal with Americans screaming, "Help, get me home!These new 5 minute Abbott Labs low cost tests are going to change everything. They will start to be available next month

Black Page
08-28-20, 22:55
These new 5 minute Abbott Labs low cost tests are going to change everything. They will start to be available next monthHow many per month? And in what countries?

This is the problem of tests.

Orgasmico
08-29-20, 01:20
Looks like the strip clubs should be opening soon. Hopefully in a week or 2, we'll have some reports. The energy in the streets is very good right now.

Questner
08-29-20, 02:14
Within 10 days there will be a decision on how and when to resume regular international flights for other destinations in South America.

Kazeu
08-29-20, 02:25
From what I read, the Abbot tests are not going to be available to the public. They're going to medical offices and hospitals.


How many per month? And in what countries?

This is the problem of tests.

The Tall Man
08-29-20, 02:45
Some one asked about centro and what it is like, well this afternoon I got a video call from my good buddy who was in centro all day and the quantity and quality was off the charts today.

He showed me a few cuties and if I did not have other plans was very tempted to head down there but possibly tomorrow.

Looks Like the chicas are ready to rumble!

The Tall Man.

Knowledge
08-29-20, 03:08
That's quite enough of this red herring. Let's move on. The guessing games are fun but it's best we make our plans based on what the government publishes. I am referring to the Colombian government, not the USA State Department. Very quickly, September 1 is the date on which international flights are approved to begin. As yet undetermined conditions (on board seating arrangements and cleaning routines) remain to be approved and published.

Meanwhile, there is a curfew this weekend in Medellin. It is intended to rein in house parties. No curfews or rotating cedula days are planned after August 31 but of course everything is situational.


From what I read, the Abbot tests are not going to be available to the public. They're going to medical offices and hospitals.

Knowledge
08-29-20, 03:14
This is the same e-mail distribution that scared the bejesus out of Americans in Colombia with language like "leave now or risk indefinite time abroad" and "we can't guarantee there will be more humanitarian flights". Meanwhile, the flights have been averaging 1 to 2 per week. The e-mails are written in English. I guess there is some value in that.


From the USA Embassy, Bogata (sent today via email):

"President Duque announced the extension of the national health emergency until November 30 and the transition from compulsory isolation to selective isolation. Some national restrictions remain:8239;The national government maintains a number of restrictions on activities and requirements to secure public health, including but not limited to: International borders remain closed, and international commercial flights suspended".

LoveItHere69
08-29-20, 04:25
I said it before (Barranquilla thread) and I will say it again. I just looked up bus tickets between cities in late September on the 2 sites below. No trips unless you meet very certain criteria. Read about my trip from BAQ to MED. You guys wishing upon a star really think the country will open international flights before or even at the same time that they open the busing between cities? Best be watching the bus sites before flight sites.

https://www.copetran.com

https://www.expresobrasilia.com/

Why do you all believe international flights will occur before the buses are allowed to run between cities in Colombia?

GeneHickman
08-29-20, 05:28
Man, I don't know who to trust anymore. According to this article today, https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/protocolo-de-vuelos-internacionales-en-colombia-con-paises-prosur-EF13525427 , (From one of the most credible news paper in Colombia), the president has decided to let some of the South America countries in, in September. As a US citizen, we can still legally go to Ecuador, after completing a 14 day quarantine, we should be able to get back into Medellin. This is a viable path for some of us.Dunno but it seems to me like you should consider buying an apartment, apply for a permanent residence and set up shop in Medellin.

GeneHickman
08-29-20, 05:32
It may sound strange, but the reason I will trust US doctors more is because they have more experience treating Covid patients. They have made many discoveries about Covid. That I think it shows the strength of US doctors and researchers. I have been with my current doctor for more than half of my life and there is no reason that I should trust other doctors more.No point arguing with some. They have developed their deep seated biases and cannot be objective. Just let each person take his decision. Remember there are still idiots that refuse to get out of a cat 4/5 hurricanes way.

MarquisdeSade1
08-29-20, 06:08
I've seen many cockblocking losers in my travels around the world whilst mongering, but this Chinese virus is most definitely the mother of them all, how apropos it was.

MADE IN China.

Black Page
08-29-20, 10:35
Looks like the strip clubs should be opening soon. Hopefully in a week or 2, we'll have some reports. The energy in the streets is very good right now.In Paris, with numbers raising exponentially back to very alarming levels as in March, the President Macron hinting that a lockdown may be possible seeing the situation, mandatory masks for everyone walking in streets, I note that swingers clubs are open! I even read comments like "we were welcomed with all safety measures, masks on for everyone, temperature testing, etc".

Good luck to those who want to enjoy "energy" in clubs, but I hope they will stay isolated from closest friends and relatives.


No point arguing with some. They have developed their deep seated biases and cannot be objective. Just let each person take his decision. Remember there are still idiots that refuse to get out of a cat 4/5 hurricanes way.See above.


From what I read, the Abbot tests are not going to be available to the public. They're going to medical offices and hospitals.Exactly. Even that, they cannot be enough to check all those who were used to travel from one country to another. Numbers matter.

How many people was used to fly out of USA in one day? Is it possible to think to test with these rapid tests all of them on departure, then trace them and test them again after say 3 days in the country of arrival? (hopefully, they should refrain to go to strip and swinger clubs during those 3 days of prudence).

Knowledge
08-29-20, 12:55
What is the source of your information? Nothing personal, I am wary because I sometimes see attributions here like "a friend told me he heard" or "one of my chicas said". No attribution at all for me means no information.


Within 10 days there will be a decision on how and when to resume regular international flights for other destinations in South America.

SJobs
08-29-20, 13:40
Dunno but it seems to me like you should consider buying an apartment, apply for a permanent residence and set up shop in Medellin.Already in the works. But at the moment, the most important thing for me is to get in.

Lou32
08-29-20, 14:56
This is the same e-mail distribution that scared the bejesus out of Americans in Colombia with language like "leave now or risk indefinite time abroad" and "we can't guarantee there will be more humanitarian flights". Meanwhile, the flights have been averaging 1 to 2 per week. The e-mails are written in English. I guess there is some value in that.I don't know if the Department of State is in the business of hyping up fear or not but the particular news they distributed doesn't seem to be anything more than repeating what Duque announced. I didn't sense any opinionated viewpoint from State on this one.

The Tall Man
08-29-20, 17:22
Much love and respect to all but please is this a corona virus chat board or a where to find P4P pussy!

Come-on man! Hehehehe.

Really you all need to keep your opinions and travel ideas in the appropriate section such as the the Corona Virus or General Report. A bunch of pussies thinking they are doctors or professional statisticians and can interpret vast amounts of data. Get real and get back on topic which is the fine pussy here in Medellin.

Lets get back to pussy talk, got to love the hoe's and show some respect to them.

The Tall Man.

MaddTraveler
08-29-20, 18:19
Much love and respect to all but please is this a corona virus chat board or a where to find P4P pussy!

Come-on man! Hehehehe.

Really you all need to keep your opinions and travel ideas in the appropriate section such as the the Corona Virus or General Report. A bunch of pussies thinking they are doctors or professional statisticians and can interpret vast amounts of data. Get real and get back on topic which is the fine pussy here in Medellin.

Lets get back to pussy talk, got to love the hoe's and show some respect to them.

The Tall Man.Thank you and thank you! LMAO!!

Blakman
08-29-20, 20:10
I am not a centro explorer but it is widely apparent that where there is crowds withing close proximity that the scenario becomes a potential super spreader. But I will say colombians wear there mask unlike americans here in the states who think there are privilidged, immune to the virus, and its their constitution right to do whatever they choose even if it potentially can cause it to spread to others. The concern for one visiting is real.


Much love and respect to all but please is this a corona virus chat board or a where to find P4P pussy!

Come-on man! Hehehehe.

Really you all need to keep your opinions and travel ideas in the appropriate section such as the the Corona Virus or General Report. A bunch of pussies thinking they are doctors or professional statisticians and can interpret vast amounts of data. Get real and get back on topic which is the fine pussy here in Medellin.

Lets get back to pussy talk, got to love the hoe's and show some respect to them.

The Tall Man..

SlapShot10
08-29-20, 20:42
Predictably, I was notified today that the owner of my rental apartment has decided to rent it out to his friends on Sep 10. The manager, an early 20's girl that is difficult to deal with, to say the least, said since she knows I won't pay the normal rate, and I'm paying such a low amount, that the owner made his decision. I'm assuming this is all based on a hope for an international flight, but who knows. They have several penthouses available, but I'm kind of sick of dealing with this chick, and their general pompous approach to doing business. I'm hoping to find an independent or different company. I don't like the gringo-exploitation business model. I would have bet a lot of money that within a week of some whisperings of international flights, that I'd get the boot. She was supposed to send me a contract days ago, then said I never confirmed. Her last audio message was that she will send a contract for specific dates. Go figure.

I'm trying to work a trio with Pinky and a newbie, tonight. The newbie has a friend she wants to bring, because she lives far away. She said the girl doesn't need any money, etc. , she'll just accompany her. Haven't arrived at the big question, yet...

I got an email from SmartFit, today, sounds like they're opening Monday.

GeneHickman
08-29-20, 21:29
Already in the works. But at the moment, the most important thing for me is to get in.Looks like October, but if you are sufficiently determined maybe next month based on how things play out. This article kind of reviews the current thinking on the topoc.

https://thecitypaperbogota.com/business/colombia-authorizes-reactivation-of-international-flights/25901

SJobs
08-29-20, 21:46
Predictably, I was notified today that the owner of my rental apartment has decided to rent it out to his friends on Sep 10. The manager, an early 20's girl that is difficult to deal with, to say the least, said since she knows I won't pay the normal rate, and I'm paying such a low amount, that the owner made his decision. I'm assuming this is all based on a hope for an international flight, but who knows. They have several penthouses available, but I'm kind of sick of dealing with this chick, and their general pompous approach to doing business. I'm hoping to find an independent or different company. I don't like the gringo-exploitation business model. I would have bet a lot of money that within a week of some whisperings of international flights, that I'd get the boot. She was supposed to send me a contract days ago, then said I never confirmed. Her last audio message was that she will send a contract for specific dates. Go figure.

I'm trying to work a trio with Pinky and a newbie, tonight. The newbie has a friend she wants to bring, because she lives far away. She said the girl doesn't need any money, etc. , she'll just accompany her. Haven't arrived at the big question, yet...

I got an email from SmartFit, today, sounds like they're opening Monday.I recently signed a 6-month contract to rent one of my favorite penthouse in Poblado, starting 9/15. I might not be able to get there on 9/15, but the rental agency was pressuring me, they told me there are a large number of interest in renting penthouses in September, I think it's all BS, since I was able to get a slight discount.

Good luck with the trio, if you going to have three girls there, why not make a foursome.

I'm super happy that SmartFit is opening, do they require everyone to wear a mask while working out?

Knowledge
08-29-20, 22:57
So both men, tall and blak make valid points. In the interest of saving a page of two of random links to second hand reports and dueling rationalizations, what I notice is guys who are not in Colombia seem to be aligned around the position that it's too risky and they wouldn't come if they could. Guys who are in Colombia are of the opposite point of view. It's all good but we don't need to beat a dead horse (there is another thread for that).


I am not a centro explorer but it is widely apparent that where there is crowds withing close proximity that the scenario becomes a potential super spreader. But I will say colombians wear there mask unlike americans here in the states who think there are privilidged, immune to the virus, and its their constitution right to do whatever they choose even if it potentially can cause it to spread to others. The concern for one visiting is real..

SJobs
08-30-20, 01:15
So both men, tall and blak make valid points. In the interest of saving a page of two of random links to second hand reports and dueling rationalizations, what I notice is guys who are not in Colombia seem to be aligned around the position that it's too risky and they wouldn't come if they could. Guys who are in Colombia are of the opposite point of view. It's all good but we don't need to beat a dead horse (there is another thread for that).Come again? There are people not in Colombia who are willing to take any risk necessary to go back to Colombia. I think most of the people who got locked out of Medellin because of the China virus are simply jealous of you, tall man, slap and pn. We all know you guys are in heaven and the rest of us are burning in hell. For the unfortunate people like me, the only reasonable thing to do at the moment is to find the quickest way to get back in heaven.

SJobs
08-30-20, 01:29
Looks like October, but if you are sufficiently determined maybe next month based on how things play out. This article kind of reviews the current thinking on the topoc.

https://thecitypaperbogota.com/business/colombia-authorizes-reactivation-of-international-flights/25901Thanks for the link, I have been following the situation closely. The latest information is this https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/protocolo-de-vuelos-internacionales-en-colombia-con-paises-prosur-EF13525427 published on the 28th of August.

It seems like Duque has officially given the go ahead for South America countries. In the next 10 days there will be flights going in to Colombia from Ecuador. We can still fly to Ecuador from the states. I'm more than sufficiently determined to go back to Medellin. I will buy my ticket to Ecuador as soon as Duque finalize the international travel procedure.

Questner
08-30-20, 01:31
What is the source of your information? Nothing personal, I am wary because I sometimes see attributions here like "a friend told me he heard" or "one of my chicas said". No attribution at all for me means no information.Comes from official Colombian press, or cross references from other Latin American premier press that I follow; I don't post links in many cases because not everyone is a Spanish speaker. This one as I recall was posted in El Pais, and the full article described the meeting within PROSUR countries group.

Combo
08-30-20, 01:59
I am not a centro explorer but it is widely apparent that where there is crowds withing close proximity that the scenario becomes a potential super spreader. But I will say colombians wear there mask unlike americans here in the states who think there are privilidged, immune to the virus, and its their constitution right to do whatever they choose even if it potentially can cause it to spread to others. The concern for one visiting is real.

.The hypocrisy of guys that are boning multiple women (each of whom is likely boning multiple guys) worrying about mask-wearing is absurd.

Mongering is not a safe activity as far as Covid is concerned. I'm all for wearing masks, but the risk in not wearing a mask is minuscule compared to the risk in having sex with multiple prostitutes.

Nounce
08-30-20, 02:22
S what I notice is guys who are not in Colombia seem to be aligned around the position that it's too risky and they wouldn't come if they could. Nah, SJobs, Elvis, and Blake are not in Colombia. The rest of us are waiting for SJobs to land to book our plan tickets.

SJobs
08-30-20, 05:12
The hypocrisy of guys that are boning multiple women (each of whom is likely boning multiple guys) worrying about mask-wearing is absurd.

Mongering is not a safe activity as far as Covid is concerned. I'm all for wearing masks, but the risk in not wearing a mask is minuscule compared to the risk in having sex with multiple prostitutes.I totally agree. I have come to terms with the risk associated with mongering a long time ago. Worrying about getting covid while mongering is like a foot solider in the middle of the-day invasion worrying about getting hit by lightning.

SJobs
08-30-20, 05:18
Nah, SJobs, Elvis, and Blake are not in Colombia. The rest of us are waiting for SJobs to land to book our plan tickets.Hopefully you don't need to wait for long. A discouraging news, my September 10th and 14th tickets on spirit airline are both canceled, spirt canceled all September flights to Colombia (yes, I brought two tickets for two different dates to avoid price fluctuations). I brought the 12th flight to Medellin on AA already. Fingers crossed.

Questner
08-30-20, 05:33
Panama will be open to international flights on October 12,2020. It doesn't mean that Colombia will follow with the same dates, but I suspect the countries are going to coordinate it. The source: https://www.telemetro.com/nacionales/2020/08/26/panama-reactivara-aviacion-internacional-partir/3167783.html.

Black Page
08-30-20, 10:50
The hypocrisy of guys that are boning multiple women (each of whom is likely boning multiple guys) worrying about mask-wearing is absurd.

Mongering is not a safe activity as far as Covid is concerned. I'm all for wearing masks, but the risk in not wearing a mask is minuscule compared to the risk in having sex with multiple prostitutes.The safest practice is anal doggy. Let us spread the word for a safer mongering.

Knowledge
08-30-20, 11:48
I'm not sure what you mean by "official" or "premier" but Colombian press or any country's press are not sources. They are outlets that publish information from sources of varying reliability. For the PROSUR meeting you mentioned, a credible source would be an attendee or an authorized communique from a participating country. Absent any of that the information is little more than rumor and speculation.

Again, nothing personal but I hope guys will start to challenge the basis of some of the information that is splashed around this site. It's not unusual that when I probe for sources the responses tend to be much less authoritative and definitive than the original post.


Comes from official Colombian press, or cross references from other Latin American premier press that I follow; I don't post links in many cases because not everyone is a Spanish speaker. This one as I recall was posted in El Pais, and the full article described the meeting within PROSUR countries group.

Lugnut
08-30-20, 14:31
I recently signed a 6-month contract to rent one of my favorite penthouse in Poblado, starting 9/15. I might not be able to get there on 9/15, but the rental agency was pressuring me, they told me there are a large number of interest in renting penthouses in September, I think it's all BS, since I was able to get a slight discount.You are very, very hopeful.

The Tall Man
08-30-20, 15:56
Much love and respect to all but please is this a corona virus chat board or a where to find P4P pussy!

Come-on man! Hehehehe.

Really you all need to keep your opinions and travel ideas in the appropriate section such as the the Corona Virus or General Report. A bunch of pussies thinking they are doctors or professional statisticians and can interpret vast amounts of data. Get real and get back on topic which is the fine pussy here in Medellin.

Lets get back to pussy talk, got to love the hoe's and show some respect to them.

The Tall Man.
Thank you and thank you! LMAO!!I am proud to accept the nomination for the presidency of el centro Medellin, hehehehe! And I won't be hunkered down hidden in my finca (basement) beating my meat rather balls deep in pussy!

Love your humor.

On a side note last night my 18 yo live-in Vennie for almost 6 months ask if her friend to come stay for a week or two, so rickety split hoped into my car and drove over to Belen snatched this beauty up and brought her back to my man cave, had some drinks and music and dancing around and then "yada-yada-yada" (remember that Seinfeld episode, hehehe) they are both asleep this morning.

The Tall Man.

Turgid
08-30-20, 16:18
The safest practice is anal doggy. Let us spread the word for a safer mongering.What good is sessioning a hooker without DFK?

Kafka
08-30-20, 19:27
I am proud to accept the nomination for the presidency of el centro Medellin, hehehehe! And I won't be hunkered down hidden in my finca (basement) beating my meat rather balls deep in pussy!

Love your humor.

On a side note last night my 18 yo live-in Vennie for almost 6 months ask if her friend to come stay for a week or two, so rickety split hoped into my car and drove over to Belen snatched this beauty up and brought her back to my man cave, had some drinks and music and dancing around and then "yada-yada-yada" (remember that Seinfeld episode, hehehe) they are both asleep this morning.

The Tall Man.I still have visions of my ill fated trip to Botero. Wrong idea, wrong time. But I'll be back maybe I can take a tour with you.

Kafka
08-30-20, 19:29
Panama will be open to international flights on October 12,2020. It doesn't mean that Colombia will follow with the same dates, but I suspect the countries are going to coordinate it. The source: https://www.telemetro.com/nacionales/2020/08/26/panama-reactivara-aviacion-internacional-partir/3167783.html.Nov-Dec aren't far away. Just bring a few quick saliva tests, assuming availability and screen the chicas. Lll.

SlapShot10
08-30-20, 23:07
I recently signed a 6-month contract to rent one of my favorite penthouse in Poblado, starting 9/15. I might not be able to get there on 9/15, but the rental agency was pressuring me, they told me there are a large number of interest in renting penthouses in September, I think it's all BS, since I was able to get a slight discount.

Good luck with the trio, if you going to have three girls there, why not make a foursome.

I'm super happy that SmartFit is opening, do they require everyone to wear a mask while working out?


I recently signed a 6-month contract to rent one of my favorite penthouse in Poblado, starting 9/15. I might not be able to get there on 9/15, but the rental agency was pressuring me, they told me there are a large number of interest in renting penthouses in September, I think it's all BS, since I was able to get a slight discount.

Good luck with the trio, if you going to have three girls there, why not make a foursome.

I'm super happy that SmartFit is opening, do they require everyone to wear a mask while working out?I'd think that's bullshit, as well, but who knows. The rental rates have skyrocketed, this week. Some are still at quarantine prices, but I think that could change if you tried to reserve them. They have plenty of inventory, so the tired routine of so much interest is just a ploy to get your gringo dollars.

SmartFit's protocols list did include something about wearing a mask.

Pinky and I started out with a repeat around 9 p. Her and Pinky have a great connection. She ended up leaving around midnight or so. Then, I had my Nov / Dec girl come over. That was a BUST. She didn't bring a bikini, was abrasive with Pinky, then disappeared for like a half hour to, from what I see today, take a photo for her Instagram story. She eventually left, which was for the best. Then, Pinky's friend came over around 5-6 a. Only one round, with the first girl & Pinky. Pinky wanted me to finish on her tits, and I damn near missed the landing. Just had breakfast delivered from Bagatelle. Good hangover helper. Pancakes, bacon, sausage, eggs, and hash browns.

As far as the foursome idea, it was proposed to me as a tag-along that would not charge or be involved. I always have hope. However, this is the girl that lives far away and has sent a few videos. She randomly sent a video yesterday morning, which is how this started. It's insane, really. She said it's 100.000 each way for Uber. She wanted me to pay that, PLUS 500.000. Needless to say, that plan was aborted. The girls are cleaning the apartment, now. Going to be a lazy Sunday.

Surfer500
08-31-20, 02:00
I'd think that's bullshit, as well, but who knows. The rental rates have skyrocketed, this week. Some are still at quarantine prices, but I think that could change if you tried to reserve them. They have plenty of inventory, so the tired routine of so much interest is just a ploy to get your gringo dollars.y.How are you identifying these properties you refer to, is it thru Casacol who is the largest player in town when it comes to Penthouses, or thru AIRBNB where you've noticed these price hikes you mentioned?

Surfer500
08-31-20, 02:07
Panama will be open to international flights on October 12,2020. It doesn't mean that Colombia will follow with the same dates, but I suspect the countries are going to coordinate it. The source: https://www.telemetro.com/nacionales/2020/08/26/panama-reactivara-aviacion-internacional-partir/3167783.html.Interesting as AVIANCA is going to have 2 flights a day from LAX starting on Sept 19 to it's hub in San Salavador. And COPA with it's hub in Panama City will probably start flying there from LAX as well starting in October. All good news and hopefully Colombia when it starts allowing in International flights won't have a quarantine mandate.

Questner
08-31-20, 02:21
I'm not sure what you mean by "official" or "premier" but Colombian press or any country's press are not sources. They are outlets that publish information from sources of varying reliability. For the PROSUR meeting you mentioned, a credible source would be an attendee or an authorized communique from a participating country. Absent any of that the information is little more than rumor and speculation.

Again, nothing personal but I hope guys will start to challenge the basis of some of the information that is splashed around this site. It's not unusual that when I probe for sources the responses tend to be much less authoritative and definitive than the original post.OK, I consider this site, blogs, expat websites, social media as non-offiicial as opposed to periodic Colombian newspapers, for example, it's all very simple as long as you see the picture as a local. The real sources are beyond the purpose of this forum and in any such case anyone who knows doesn't say, and anyone who says doesn't know.

Questner
08-31-20, 02:29
Nov-Dec aren't far away. Just bring a few quick saliva tests, assuming availability and screen the chicas. Lll.No, I'm usually all over my head with girls, I'll leave tests to other germ fearing hobbyists. Every third trip I get sick with something, that's life. There is some likelihood I've been already exposed to this malady, just wait until the powers will come with a new one. I think November is too soon (Dom Rep may be OK for November), but Colombia is better from December, and it's only mine opinion.

SJobs
08-31-20, 02:44
OK, I consider this site, blogs, expat websites, social media as non-offiicial as opposed to periodic Colombian newspapers, for example, it's all very simple as long as you see the picture as a local. The real sources are beyond the purpose of this forum and in any such case anyone who knows doesn't say, and anyone who says doesn't know.The most official source of information is the 7 pm daily TV briefing delivered by Duque himself. In the briefing today, he announced, in unequivocal terms, that international flights will resume in September, this should settle all debates about whether one can travel to Colombia or not in September. The remaining items are which one country can travel and what's the procedure (self quarantine, testing, insurance. Etc). If one is determined to go to Medellin at all cost, obviously my case, I firmly believe one can make it over in September.

Osteoknot
08-31-20, 11:09
WhatsApp Transcript.

{5:20 PM, 8/25/2020} Gina. Medellin: Hello.

{5:40 PM, 8/25/2020} Raul: Who is this please? Send photo.

{8:28 PM, 8/25/2020} Raul: You wrote to me the other day. I don't think we've met before, thank you.

{8:30 PM, 8/25/2020} Gina. Medellin: yes we met.

{8:39 PM, 8/25/2020} Raul: I have 20 girlfriends, do you want to be number 21?

<note the long time gap, not sure what that means, if anything. I assumed I drove her away which was my intention.

{9:55 AM, 8/26/2020} Gina. Medellin: Yes.

{1:57 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: I didn't expect that answer haha now you have my attention.

{1:58 PM, 8/26/2020} Gina. Medellin: There is Love is enough for everyone.

{2:01 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: I have a girlfriend who is number one, she will always be my number one, her name is Celeste.

{2:02 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: you have a child?

{2:03 PM, 8/26/2020} Gina. Medellin: Yes.

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{2:05 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: What is your son's name?

{2:05 PM, 8/26/2020} Gina. Medellin: Alan Daniel.

{2:06 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: Cute.

{2:08 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: What name should I give you on WhatsApp?

{2:09 PM, 8/26/2020} Gina. Medellin: Gina.

{2:09 PM, 8/26/2020} Gina. Medellin: Call me girlfriend #21.

{2:10 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: Gina, like the first book of the Bible.

{2:16 PM, 8/26/2020} Gina. Medellin: I am a good girl, yes the Bible.

{2:48 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: All my girls know their number and their place and they don't cause problems with any girl above them. Why do you think you could be happy in the last place?

{4:29 PM, 8/26/2020} Gina. Medellin: If it would be 21 that is fine as long as it is your girlfriend.

{4:36 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: Why is it so easy to get along with you?

{4:38 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: When you say there is enough love for everyone, are you sure you don't mean money?

{4:49 PM, 8/26/2020} Gina. Medellin: It's easy, just a compliment is all I expect, at some point I will ask you or you will only give me a compliment.

{4:51 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: Send me a picture of your pussy, maybe that will help me remember who you are hahaha.

{4:52 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: and a foto of your face, I deleted the other chat.

<bangin' foto of trim tight pussy.

{5:15 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: Now I remember you haha your pussy was sweet and tight and you follow directions well.

{5:16 PM, 8/26/2020} Gina. Medellin: Thank you sweetheart.

{5:16 PM, 8/26/2020} Gina. Medellin:

{5:16 PM, 8/26/2020} Gina. Medellin: I remember you died for tushi.

{5:18 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: Does tushi mean your butt or pink cocaine?

{5:22 PM, 8/26/2020} Gina. Medellin: Pink cocaine.

{5:23 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: Yeah I guess you know me hahaha.

{5:24 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: I haven't used any for 4 months and I feel great.

{5:28 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: So my dick was probably soft on tussy when you met me earlier, I should warn you now that it gets big and hard, I hope you can take it including up your sweet ass.

{5:31 PM, 8/26/2020} Gina. Medellin: I will drink and swallow your milk, and I love it in the ass you can see it is rich.

{5:36 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: You are creating a desire in me. What beach were you on? Did you have shots to make your butt so big, round and sweet?

{5:40 PM, 8/26/2020} Gina. Medellin: I got injections 4 years ago.

{5:41 PM, 8/26/2020} Gina. Medellin: I was in Cartagena de Indias Colombia after I saw you in December I traveled to Cartagena, right now I'm back in Medellin.

{5:41 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: I see, that is why we drifted apart.

{5:51 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: Your butt looks great, I want to stick my tongue up your butt as far as possible.

{6:10 PM, 8/26/2020} Gina. Medellin: I'll let you stick your tongue and your cock in my ass.

{6:11 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: Do you live in Medellin now? You have work?

{6:11 PM, 8/26/2020} Gina. Medellin: I live in Medellin and my job starts on September 1 when the quarantine is lifted.

{6:12 PM, 8/26/2020} Raul: I will let you know when I am back in Medellin.

Blakman
08-31-20, 15:05
The Ministry of Health, however, stated on Tuesday, that "conditions no longer warrant the closure of international flights to and from the large capitals of the country. : And having given the green light for airlines to relaunch international routes, the Ministry claims that "it is unlikely" that inbound passengers will increase the risk of coronavirus transmission.

The first countries that have been approved for arrivals and departures are Chile, Panama, USA, Ecuador and Peru.

ColombiaLover
08-31-20, 15:55
As soon as the border opens to flight from the USA, I'll be going. I already have reservations for September, October, November, and December / January. If something gets canceled, I'll just roll it forward.

However, when I go, at least for the next few months, it won't be like in the past for me. I will not be going to some of the barrios I used to visit (due to risk of crime). I will not be walking around at night (the apartment where I stay is near La 70). I will hang out a lot in the apartment, enjoying the jacuzzi and my company. And ordering most meals through Rappi.

Eventually things will get better and bars and discos will re-open, but I'm in no rush. My two objectives are to relax and to enjoy my "girlfriends. ".

Newbies or occasional travelers may just want to sit it out for a while.

IamLookin
08-31-20, 16:55
I'm with you as well. I plan to be there as soon as it is allowed. I never visit the barrios and seldom venture to El Centro. If the bars and nightlife entertainment in Laureles is curtailed, well I certainly wouldn't mind as the noise level at night will be greatly reduced. If there is outdoor seating for food and drink great. If not, not a big issue when you have an apartment. Plenty amigas that would love to stay in the apartment anyway. Especially these times.


As soon as the border opens to flight from the USA, I'll be going. I already have reservations for September, October, November, and December / January. If something gets canceled, I'll just roll it forward.

However, when I go, at least for the next few months, it won't be like in the past for me. I will not be going to some of the barrios I used to visit (due to risk of crime). I will not be walking around at night (the apartment where I stay is near La 70). I will hang out a lot in the apartment, enjoying the jacuzzi and my company. And ordering most meals through Rappi.

Eventually things will get better and bars and discos will re-open, but I'm in no rush. My two objectives are to relax and to enjoy my "girlfriends. ".

Newbies or occasional travelers may just want to sit it out for a while..

Black Page
08-31-20, 19:19
This minister sounds like Baldrick from Black Adder. He has a cunning plan. In order to ensure the safety of our already heavily infected population we will be opening our borders to countries with endemic levels of COVID-19. It's a cunning plan indeed.He seems to say "We cannot be worse than this. Who cares if others come, get it, and take it away. The in / out virus flow budget will be probably unbalanced towards out, so who cares". The most astute will be the visitors.

PolloNegro
08-31-20, 19:22
The Ministry of Health, however, stated on Tuesday, that "conditions no longer warrant the closure of international flights to and from the large capitals of the country. : And having given the green light for airlines to relaunch international routes, the Ministry claims that "it is unlikely" that inbound passengers will increase the risk of coronavirus transmission.

The first countries that have been approved for arrivals and departures are Chile, Panama, USA, Ecuador and Peru.The Border is completely opened, I have had 5 flights cancelled. My Rent isn't due unitl August of 2021, so I am here chilling in Medellin until International Flight is possible. I am aware that Spirit will cancel a flight at the last minute, this time they waited until August 29th to tell me that my Sept 3rd flight was cancelled. Oh Well, I am not sweating it, to all mongers, have faith, the flights will resume soon! Pollo Negro is out!!

Blakman
08-31-20, 21:31
My ticket is purchased for end of September, so deep down I am rooting for sjob to get in LOL. My daughter says I am impulsive so maybe it was impulsive reaction LOL. Slapsilly, what's the talk with lleras park?


Blakman,

Your update is almost a week old. Did you factor any of this in before you posted that you decided you would not come due to perceived risks?.

Knowledge
09-01-20, 00:40
Ah-ha, now it all makes sense. After being here as recently as June I couldn't grasp what you thought you would run into that you haven't already.


My ticket is purchased for end of September, so deep down I am rooting for sjob to get in LOL. My daughter says I am impulsive so maybe it was impulsive reaction LOL. Slapsilly, what's the talk with lleras park?.

SlapShot10
09-01-20, 02:47
How are you identifying these properties you refer to, is it thru Casacol who is the largest player in town when it comes to Penthouses, or thru AIRBNB where you've noticed these price hikes you mentioned?AirBnB & Casacol & LIV Realty, etc.


My ticket is purchased for end of September, so deep down I am rooting for sjob to get in LOL. My daughter says I am impulsive so maybe it was impulsive reaction LOL. Slapsilly, what's the talk with lleras park?

.Just got a text from a Hooters girl. See you tomorrow! I don't think that will be happening, since I just had $600 worth of gum and bone removal + stitches, to start the process of getting some veneers within the next month (Approx. $2500 in total). It will be soon, though. I think them and Ay Wey will open. Not sure about Chica Boom or whatever the shit hole across from Hooters is, now. Gusto's, Patrick's, etc. Will be later. I would think Beer Store can open this week.

The friends of the owner are coming on Sep 10 from within Colombia, so I will need to find a new place. I just got a short list from Casacol, and nothing stood out. I have 5-6 places saved on AirBnB, that I might start looking further into, tomorrow. I also looked at fincas near Medellin, along with Pereira, Cali, Santa Marta, Baranquilla, San Andres, and some other places. Again, nothing jumped off the page.

Cheers to those that have been getting some promising bits of news, this week. Hoping you all will be cruising thru the tunnel, ready to freshen up, and pound something new or familiar, soon!

LoveItHere69
09-01-20, 05:27
Things are supposed to open up more September 1. Either Saturday (not sure because did not go out that day) or Sunday night the police placed that "Caution do not Cross" yellow barrier tape on all the benches and chairs in front of the Premier Plaza Hotel where so many people are. Why now?

Dcrist0527
09-01-20, 13:40
Like most, I anxiously await word on Medellin reopening. And I realize that I'm asking a question that cannot be definitively answered. My next trip to Colombia, hopefully this fall, will only be my second. On my first trip, Facebook was fruitless. Admittedly, that was 100% my fault as I just did not invest the time ahead of my visit. The casas were good, not great. My best successes were at Gusto and Lleras. Like some others, I enjoy the party as much as the main event. I'm assuming it'll be at least another month before Gusto reopens. Hoping I'll be pleasantly surprised. But any thoughts on how active Lleras will be in the very near future?

I did not visit Centro on my first visit. I'm not opposed to doing so but I generally prefer at least getting to know the chica over a drink more than the quick transaction. So if Lleras is dead, I guess I'll need to start the Facebook game to maximize options.

SpiderRider
09-01-20, 21:15
Took 2 for 80 mil, 45 minutes in a sala yesterday. 60 mil tips for enhanced services. Cute and enthused, customer satisfaction focused. Really enjoyed it. Excellent diversion from a problematic weekend. Repeat possible with more enhancements. Took a WhatsApp contact.

JSmith49
09-01-20, 23:21
I like many of you are waiting for Colombia to open back up so I can get to Heaven as quickly as possible. I recently checked La diabla chica list and have discovered some girls I might be interested in. I was curious if anyone here has any information or positive reviews on them.

YippieKayay
09-02-20, 03:48
Forgive me, YippieKayay because while I am replying to you, it is in no way directed only at you.

Is there anything more exhausting than reading everyone's expert opinion on COVID? All I have learned is that every pervert on these boards is an expert in the communicable disease field.

Far be it from me to leave my expert opinion out. LOL. What in the hell does Vietnam have to do with COVID? That is just a pointless comparison.
More American lives were lost in the Vietnam war over twenty years than COVID-19 over six months. If that does not give you pause I don't know what will.

Elvis 2008
09-02-20, 05:02
What you guys in Medellin are doing? Outside of fucking, eating, drinking, and watching Netflix, what is there to do in Medellin now?

Knowledge
09-02-20, 16:16
Is that a trick question? LOL! Beyond what you mentioned we all have different interests. What you mentioned is covered in some detail here so for the rest I refer you to the websites of Medellin City Hall and the the mayor of Medellin. There you will find authorized re-opening schedules for museums and other cultural institutions, restaurants, bars, libraries, educational institutions, and government offices. For more up to the minute content you can consult the local newspapers like El Colombiano. Even a google translation into English is more accurate than what I often see in gringo resources like Medellin guru and such.


What you guys in Medellin are doing? Outside of fucking, eating, drinking, and watching Netflix, what is there to do in Medellin now?

Colbert1
09-02-20, 20:54
A woman who got my phone number after contacting me on Seeking Arrangement texted me and asked me for $22 for a pass to go from Medellin to Bogota. She assured me her father in the USA Would pay it to my bank account. Like a fool I Paypaled her the $22 and then after googling her phone number (which she said was her mother's) I found that it was an escort from Mileroticos. She subsequently blocked me. This is her webpage: https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/morena-tetona-con-tremendro-afro-natual-extarjeta-diosa-del-sexo-oral/18717516/ Beware!

JjBee62
09-02-20, 22:34
A woman who got my phone number after contacting me on Seeking Arrangement texted me and asked me for $22 for a pass to go from Medellin to Bogota. She assured me her father in the USA Would pay it to my bank account. Like a fool I Paypaled her the $22 and then after googling her phone number (which she said was her mother's) I found that it was an escort from Mileroticos. She subsequently blocked me. This is her webpage: https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/morena-tetona-con-tremendro-afro-natual-extarjeta-diosa-del-sexo-oral/18717516/ Beware!Why not stick with one of the Somali princes? They're at least offering a big return on your investment.

If some girl in Colombia wants you to send her money and promises her father will pay you back, expecting to get the money back makes as much sense as expecting a woman with 5 children to be a virgin.

Blakman
09-02-20, 23:29
Its idiots like you that make guys with common sense have to deal with ridiculous and annoying requests. You perpetuate this kind of behavior. This also goes out to the desperados paying for pics and videos. Again I repeat porn is free.


A woman who got my phone number after contacting me on Seeking Arrangement texted me and asked me for $22 for a pass to go from Medellin to Bogota. She assured me her father in the USA Would pay it to my bank account. Like a fool I Paypaled her the $22 and then after googling her phone number (which she said was her mother's) I found that it was an escort from Mileroticos. She subsequently blocked me. This is her webpage: https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/morena-tetona-con-tremendro-afro-natual-extarjeta-diosa-del-sexo-oral/18717516/ Beware!.

Blakman
09-02-20, 23:40
Colombia.

Colombia extended their border closure until October 1st, even sealing up land and river borders between neighboring nations, with the exception of transport of essential cargo or humanitarian emergencies.

Tourists are currently not permitted to enter Colombia.

Humanitarian flights are still bringing home stranded Colombians and many are set to arrive into the nation between September 4th and 15th.

Colombia wants to restrict airspace for these humanitarian flights, which is another reason for extending the ban on tourism for another month. Flights brining home nationals are expected to depart from Miami, New York, Panama, Spain, Chile, Aruba, Brazil, Australia and Argentina over the next few weeks.

SJobs
09-03-20, 01:50
Colombia.

Colombia extended their border closure until October 1st, even sealing up land and river borders between neighboring nations, with the exception of transport of essential cargo or humanitarian emergencies.

Tourists are currently not permitted to enter Colombia.

Humanitarian flights are still bringing home stranded Colombians and many are set to arrive into the nation between September 4th and 15th.

Colombia wants to restrict airspace for these humanitarian flights, which is another reason for extending the ban on tourism for another month. Flights brining home nationals are expected to depart from Miami, New York, Panama, Spain, Chile, Aruba, Brazil, Australia and Argentina over the next few weeks.The land border is closed until 10/1, international flight is certain to open in September, this is confirmed by Duque on Sunday.

JjBee62
09-03-20, 01:51
Its idiots like you that make guys with common sense have to deal with ridiculous and annoying requests. You perpetuate this kind of behavior. This also goes out to the desperados paying for pics and videos. Again I repeat porn is free..Why would you have to deal with ridiculous and annoying requests? This continues to baffle me. If someone sends you a ridiculous or annoying request it takes 1 second to block them, which is considerably less time than it takes to go to ISG and write a post complaining about how annoying the requests are.

Seriously, if you think anyone buying videos is responsible for the ridiculous and annoying requests, you might want to just get off the internet entirely. When I first got on Colombian Cupid I was receiving requests for money form about every 5th girl. Tinder, same thing. Facebook, Seeking Arrangements. Yep, same shit.

Had the same thing happen checking out sites dedicated to the DR, Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand and Costa Rica.

If you're finding girls online there are going to be girls who want you to send money for something. Instead of crying about it, learn how to block them.

SpiderRider
09-03-20, 02:06
Is that a trick question? LOL! Beyond what you mentioned we all have different interests. What you mentioned is covered in some detail here so for the rest I refer you to the websites of Medellin City Hall and the the mayor of Medellin. There you will find authorized re-opening schedules for museums and other cultural institutions, restaurants, bars, libraries, educational institutions, and government offices. For more up to the minute content you can consult the local newspapers like El Colombiano. Even a google translation into English is more accurate than what I often see in gringo resources like Medellin guru and such.And, I, for one, have 2 jobs on-line, study of spanish, a lifelong hobby that I hope to transform into a larger venture, and Colombian friends that I enjoy a great deal. Also there is frequent, not quite daily, exercise at Estadio. The gyms are opening, I'll probably re-join one soon. It all keeps me quite busy, and tired as well. I am grateful to have all of these, but always have to neglect some as there are only 24 hours and 7 days in a week. And most often lately it is the language study that gets shelved as there is so much isolation and decreased interaction in this long "quarantine" (the term has been wholly misused). And it seems the most futile of my pursuits until I can enter a formal education format where I am accountable

Surfer500
09-03-20, 03:44
Colombia.

Colombia extended their border closure until October 1st, even sealing up land and river borders between neighboring nations, with the exception of transport of essential cargo or humanitarian emergencies.

Tourists are currently not permitted to enter Colombia.

Humanitarian flights are still bringing home stranded Colombians and many are set to arrive into the nation between September 4th and 15th.

Colombia wants to restrict airspace for these humanitarian flights, which is another reason for extending the ban on tourism for another month. Flights brining home nationals are expected to depart from Miami, New York, Panama, Spain, Chile, Aruba, Brazil, Australia and Argentina over the next few weeks.Were did you get this information from.

Colombia having to restrict airspace to accommodate a handful of flights and it being another reason to ban tourism for another month.

I don't think so.

Lucky Nuts
09-03-20, 04:05
Colombia.

Colombia extended their border closure until October 1st, even sealing up land and river borders between neighboring nations, with the exception of transport of essential cargo or humanitarian emergencies.

Tourists are currently not permitted to enter Colombia.

Humanitarian flights are still bringing home stranded Colombians and many are set to arrive into the nation between September 4th and 15th.

Colombia wants to restrict airspace for these humanitarian flights, which is another reason for extending the ban on tourism for another month. Flights brining home nationals are expected to depart from Miami, New York, Panama, Spain, Chile, Aruba, Brazil, Australia and Argentina over the next few weeks.I can only find this on "traveloffpath" blog website. Blakman did you find this info somewhere else or do you otherwise know if it's accurate? There seems to be no such announcement from the government of Colombia - at least that I can find. It could be a misunderstanding by that website of the apparently conflicting messages Duque has given.

LoveItHere69
09-03-20, 06:06
What you guys in Medellin are doing? Outside of fucking, eating, drinking, and watching Netflix, what is there to do in Medellin now?You make it sound like life is so easy for us. Myself for instance. Each morning of every day I have to make life and death level decisions. What lucky girl is going to get my precious magical nut? The skinny one? The one with the big boobs? The young one? It is nerve racking to say the least. But I am doing my best. Sexercise is tough.

That afternoon I then wander around (I walk around a lot) searching for a new restaurant to try. So far the smoked beef place and a Peruvian place are my top choices. It is tough when I keep finding lemons. Colombian food is so bland and I am not a hot spicy lover so am not expecting a lot.

Then at night when I get to the hotel I just want to relax. But I read about all these pu $$why whipped guys whining and crying about not being in Colombia. They are so much worse than the girls asking for money. It gets me thinking about my smart decision to stay in Colombia and partake in 5 months (6th month just starting) worth of fine young women that they wish they had. Which gets me laughing hysterically with tears in my eyes causing me to fall asleep. Laughing is great exercise.

You guys make me feel like it is Christmas. I am the kid in the candy store getting to eat anything I want and as much as I want. While you are the kids outside in the freezing cold with your balls turning blue. Or is that blue balls?

Next morning wash and repeat. Christmas starts all over again for me.

By the way. I past by Hotel Botero (Ayenda 1235) tonight. The sign was lit along with the entrance and inside foyer. Inside was empty and door handles still gone. Someone was doing something behind the desk. Security guard at the door said the hotel will open again. So keep watching the hotel websites like Agoda /Bookings.com.

Elvis: Sorry those BLM losers vandalized your home.

Blakman
09-03-20, 08:57
Unsure of its validity, but found it on google. I know I don't have the time to make up the story LOL. Its to my advantage if its a lie though.


I can only find this on "traveloffpath" blog website. Blakman did you find this info somewhere else or do you otherwise know if it's accurate? There seems to be no such announcement from the government of Colombia - at least that I can find. It could be a misunderstanding by that website of the apparently conflicting messages Duque has given..

Knowledge
09-03-20, 13:13
No harm, no foul, but it's better to mention you don't know how valid the information you copied from google at the time you publish it, rather than wait until somebody questions it. We aren't journalists but the unusual circumstances of the virus has a lot of punters extra thirsty. We have to keep in mind they may make rash decisions based on what they read here.

On that note, I invite everyone to do a flight search on spirit.com for one way Medellin to Fort Lauderdale. I found the result interesting.


Unsure of its validity, but found it on google. I know I don't have the time to make up the story LOL. Its to my advantage if its a lie though..

Lugnut
09-03-20, 13:41
Unsure of its validity, but found it on google. I know I don't have the time to make up the story LOL. Its to my advantage if its a lie though..Enough already with the daily cut and paste news updates. Any one of us can set up a google news alert if we want to know the latest. Nothing here on the forum is new, and much of it is incorrect.

I'm already frustrated because all of the chicas arrive at my apartment expecting churros, and I'm like WTF, Blakman banged this one too?

Let's save the space for reports about 80 k trios. How does one say no to that? I had one at Casa Blue in Barranquilla. The girls were cool but not into each other, but I had fun and returned a couple more times to see one of the girls.

Meanwhile here in Medellin, my main 18 yo Paisa is on the hunt for a girl to have a threesome with. Our sex still gets better every time. Bad news is that she got her first tattoo a week ago. I tried to talk her out of it to no avail. It's just that there are so many girls here with tattoos, that I enjoyed her blank canvass. Turns out the tattoo isn't bad per my opinion, but we'll see what she does next.

Turgid
09-03-20, 14:45
A woman who got my phone number after contacting me on Seeking Arrangement texted me and asked me for $22 for a pass to go from Medellin to Bogota. She assured me her father in the USA Would pay it to my bank account. Like a fool I Paypaled her the $22 and then after googling her phone number (which she said was her mother's) I found that it was an escort from Mileroticos. She subsequently blocked me. This is her webpage: https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/morena-tetona-con-tremendro-afro-natual-extarjeta-diosa-del-sexo-oral/18717516/ Beware!Why didn't her father send her the money rather than that roundabout route.

Blakman
09-03-20, 19:47
Anyways doughnut whoops I mean lugnut. Churros is the first thing I am buying at the grocery store when I get back to Colombia. If cheap works I stick with it. This time I won't partake in eating. Gained 12 ugly pounds while in Colombia and had to work out and eat extremely healthy to lose it. 3 somes are tricky. I think its the best thing Colombia has going. The ease for 3 somes and possibly 4 some. I had 2 where girls didn't know each other and 1 where they did. 2nd and third was really good and 1st was good, if I took more control it would have been better. Anyways continue to enjoy.


Enough already with the daily cut and paste news updates. Any one of us can set up a google news alert if we want to know the latest. Nothing here on the forum is new, and much of it is incorrect.

I'm already frustrated because all of the chicas arrive at my apartment expecting churros, and I'm like WTF, Blakman banged this one too?

Let's save the space for reports about 80 k trios. How does one say no to that? I had one at Casa Blue in Barranquilla. The girls were cool but not into each other, but I had fun and returned a couple more times to see one of the girls.

Meanwhile here in Medellin, my main 18 yo Paisa is on the hunt for a girl to have a threesome with. Our sex still gets better every time. Bad news is that she got her first tattoo a week ago. I tried to talk her out of it to no avail. It's just that there are so many girls here with tattoos, that I enjoyed her blank canvass. Turns out the tattoo isn't bad per my opinion, but we'll see what she does next..

Member #4665
09-04-20, 06:31
Hey fellas,

What are the prices like on seeking? Is it.

120,000 for 1 hour.

240,000 for 2 hours.

300,000 for 3 hours.

What are your experiences with pricing on seeking?

Are there any Facebook girls in Cali?

Nounce
09-04-20, 07:02
Hey fellas,

What are the prices like on seeking? Is it.

120,000 for 1 hour.

240,000 for 2 hours.

300,000 for 3 hours.

What are your experiences with pricing on seeking?My experience is the price varies and you can count on it to be the most expensive option for a meet if you have to pay.

I stop talking to them as soon as they give me a rate that is by hours.

Member #4665
09-04-20, 07:07
My experience is the price varies and you can count on it to be the most expensive option for a meet if you have to pay.

I stop talking to them as soon as they give me a rate that is by hours.Okay thanks for your reply. Since you say the price varies. How exactly does the price vary with your experience can you please provide some numbers? What do you mean by the most expensive option?300,000? Well I'm not sure it cool to stop talking to them if they give you price per hour maybe I just don't understand what you're saying. But when people do business They need to be upfront about the prices to avoid confusion and conflict.

it'sProbably not a good idea to pay just to meet Without any sex. An alternative is to meet In videoconference. When the girl meets the guy she isn't really doing anything that merits a reward.

Nounce
09-04-20, 07:35
Okay thanks for your reply. Since you say the price varies. How exactly does the price vary with your experience can you please provide some numbers? What do you mean by the most expensive option?300,000? Well I'm not sure it cool to stop talking to them if they give you price per hour maybe I just don't understand what you're saying. But when people do business They need to be upfront about the prices to avoid confusion and conflict.

it'sProbably not a good idea to pay just to meet Without any sex. An alternative is to meet In videoconference. When the girl meets the guy she isn't really doing anything that merits a reward.There is no set price on seeking. Often the price is based on the lead they use to join the site. Like if I tell you the price is 400 K on seeking, then you will think the girl on seeking is 400 K and you pay 400 K. Slap can tell you it is 300 K and you will think the girl's rate is 300 K. Elvis can tell you it is free, and you will think it is free. Turn this scenario around for girls, and you can see why there are different prices.

You can find PPM and they are like FB girls except it is unlikely they will quote a price that ls lower than 200 K. 500 K and more is common enough. Some want to live with you and support her entire family so that can get expensive. Some don't want money but that may become the most expensive ones long term.

It is rare in my experience in Medellin that you pay for a meet without sex. It is common in some countries but it simply has not come up for me in Medellin. Some do offer a test drive before a long term arrangement

It is a site for arrangement. It is time consuming but once you find an arrangement, you will save time. That is an ideal situation for someone who is still working while in Medellin.

Member #4665
09-04-20, 07:53
Yesss that is a pretty good answer. On seeking it's Maybe okay to pay the girl more after she proves she is a good companion. She has to be honest responsible friendly make people feel welcome and she has to like sex. Can she be kind to strangers? A pretty picture is important but that doesn't mean anything. A pretty girl without the intellectual skills is not a big earner.

Playing around with seeking there was this funny part. The girl says yeah I'm open to having sex but I like to get to know you 1st. How about dinner restaurant? So the repliy is sure I like to go to restaurant with you but I'd like to have sex 1st then get to know you.

I feel sorry for her boyfriend. I can't stand being around a woman that doesn't satisfy her man. It's such an uncomfortable feeling. The other day I was laughing so hard reading about this girl 19 years old dating a guy she was telling him that she wanted to wait for the right moment that they should be married 1st. Like I respect her and of course As soon as she told me that I would leave. I'm not the right man for her.

The last time I tried getting to know a girl without having sex we are having in deep conversation so deep I had to mention I had a full-size hard on in my pants from making so much effort to get to know her. "but you didn't even touch it?" "you can do it without touching it?"

Whatever.

Nounce
09-04-20, 08:48
On seeking it's Maybe okay to pay the girl more after she proves she is a good companion. My experience is the opposite. The first test drive costs more, then the arrangement will average out to be lower per meet overtime.


A pretty girl without the intellectual skills is not a big earner.That usually is a lot of work if you only meet online. The next thing you know is that you two are doing her homework together. You can have deep conversation everyday with some of them and it will be like having another full time job.

SJobs
09-04-20, 15:21
No harm, no foul, but it's better to mention you don't know how valid the information you copied from google at the time you publish it, rather than wait until somebody questions it. We aren't journalists but the unusual circumstances of the virus has a lot of punters extra thirsty. We have to keep in mind they may make rash decisions based on what they read here.

On that note, I invite everyone to do a flight search on spirit.com for one way Medellin to Fort Lauderdale. I found the result interesting.Spirt canceled all my flights this months, I brought multiple tickets. American is still selling tickets from Miami to Medellin. I brought one after the 15th, just to be on the safe side. Unfortunately, given how equivocal the Colombian government is about the details of the opening, we will just have to buying and canceling tickets throughout the month.

SlapShot10
09-04-20, 15:40
Its idiots like you that make guys with common sense have to deal with ridiculous and annoying requests. You perpetuate this kind of behavior. This also goes out to the desperados paying for pics and videos. Again I repeat porn is free.

.Snakman, I was thinking of you, this week. Pinky now has a crew of chicas, and she has this guy that pays her to introduce girls for VIDEO CHAT, then pays the girls! Blows my mind. Doesn't upset me as much as you, but fuck... he's paying Pinky $30 for a new contact, then paying the girls $15 for a call. Imagine if all the chicas in the casas get wind of this! Thankfully, or should I say, hopefully, this is a rare occurrence.


Since you say the price varies. How exactly does the price vary with your experience can you please provide some numbers? What do you mean by the most expensive option?300,000?


There is no set price on seeking. Often the price is based on the lead they use to join the site. Like if I tell you the price is 400 K on seeking, then you will think the girl on seeking is 400 K and you pay 400 K. Slap can tell you it is 300 K and you will think the girl's rate is 300 K. Elvis can tell you it is free, and you will think it is free. Turn this scenario around for girls, and you can see why there are different prices.

You can find PPM and they are like FB girls except it is unlikely they will quote a price that ls lower than 200 K. 500 K and more is common enough. Some want to live with you and support her entire family so that can get expensive. Some don't want money but that may become the most expensive ones long term.I have seen a range from FREE to $500 USD for an evening (4:1 ratio, in my experience). So, ya, it's like buying a car. If you want the most common average price, I'd say 250.000-300.000 on SA and FB mafia. For some, that is multiple pops / hours, for others that is 1 HR /1 pop. There is no correct answer. It's pointless to discuss this further.

Back to my apartment search...

Cheers.

PimpJuic3
09-04-20, 22:25
There is no set price on seeking. Often the price is based on the lead they use to join the site. Like if I tell you the price is 400 K on seeking, then you will think the girl on seeking is 400 K and you pay 400 K. Slap can tell you it is 300 K and you will think the girl's rate is 300 K. Elvis can tell you it is free, and you will think it is free. Turn this scenario around for girls, and you can see why there are different prices.

You can find PPM and they are like FB girls except it is unlikely they will quote a price that ls lower than 200 K. 500 K and more is common enough. Some want to live with you and support her entire family so that can get expensive. Some don't want money but that may become the most expensive ones long term.

It is rare in my experience in Medellin that you pay for a meet without sex. It is common in some countries but it simply has not come up for me in Medellin. Some do offer a test drive before a long term arrangement

It is a site for arrangement. It is time consuming but once you find an arrangement, you will save time. That is an ideal situation for someone who is still working while in Medellin.Why would you fly all to Colombia if you're going to have pay $250/ HR? That's what you'the have to pay state side.

JjBee62
09-05-20, 14:29
Why would you fly all to Colombia if you're going to have pay $250/ HR? That's what you'the have to pay state side.Why would you feel you have to pay $250/ HR when prices range from $10/30 minutes up to $65/ hour for most of the women available?

Gringo Trooper
09-05-20, 16:16
Why would you fly all to Colombia if you're going to have pay $250/ HR? That's what you'the have to pay state side.It's more like anywhere from $15 dollars to $80 / HR in Colombia.

For various reasons. In Colombia, the women actually enjoy the session (or at least pretend to), they are generally cool and fun to have a conversation with if you both speak the same language, you can have the GFE experience, and the quality of the women in Colombia compared to the price paid makes it all the worthwhile.

Member #4665
09-05-20, 21:39
Why would you fly all to Colombia if you're going to have pay $250/ HR? That's what you'the have to pay state side.Nobody is paying USD 250 per hour in Colombia.

What was mentioned previously is For escorts in the upper end of the quality scale:

120,000 pesos for one hour = US $32 US dollars.

240,000 pesos for 2 hours = 64,98 US dollars.

And 300,000 pesos for 3 hours = 81,23 US dollars.

Of course, if you're looking for a specific particular escort you may have to pay a little bit more. If you take any escort thEN You will find someone at the standard rates.There are many factors to take into account like is Her schedule already full?


It's more like anywhere from $15 dollars to $80 / HR in Colombia.

For various reasons. In Colombia, the women actually enjoy the session (or at least pretend to), they are generally cool and fun to have a conversation with if you both speak the same language, you can have the GFE experience, and the quality of the women in Colombia compared to the price paid makes it all the worthwhile.

in Colombia a lot of people are generally welcoming and friendly to Respectful foreigners. The local escorts do offer the girlfriend experience. In Colombia does not have the 1st world type of problem of skyrocketing prices. For example, a 10 m apartment without a bathroom for $3,000,000 US/Euro/pounds. Of course, Respectfully said, saving face, no country is perfect. Yes it's true that the escorts provide girlfriend experience in Colombia, but this friendly girlfriend experience can also be found in many other places in the world.

SlapShot10
09-05-20, 23:32
Found a nice 3br in Laureles with a jacuzzi (tub), and some other nice features. La 70 is pretty slow, right now, but it might be a nice change of pace to try out some local spots for groceries, dinner, etc. SmartFit confirmed today that I can change my single location (to use all locations you need a year membership, I pay month-to-month). Lots of space and the living room is much more comfy than the penthouse I'm in. I looked at a few other apartments near Lleras that were asking close to $4 k and just couldn't justify pulling the trigger. I'm getting a good deal on this one (just a bit less than I have been paying), and the owner is coming into town in October, if travel restrictions are lifted. So, it's short-term and has everything I need. I'm not looking forward to moving all my shit, but Pinky is here to help. What an upgrade she has been, by the way. Super chill, fun to fuck, down with the threesomes, but she chips-in. She cooks, she cleans, and is always asking te ayudo?

Anyway, the reports have been lacking as I was apartment searching, etc.

Tonight, a trio with Pinky and the Sex Goddess is on the schedule. SG has promised to be nice and not jealous. I'm excited to see how they vibe. SG is one of those who is a few years older, has a steady job, doesn't do tussi, so she thinks she's better. She doesn't seem to comprehend that some wild horses don't want to be saddled. Pinky's IDGAF attitude is exactly why she gets a key to the castle. Anyway, two sexy mulattas, dinner, drinks, a jacuzzi... one last hoorah before the move.

Cheers.

Voyajer1
09-06-20, 00:44
The thirsty retards paying girls in Gusto disco US $200 for an hour's work. That is COP750,000 pesos for an hour. These skanks, some of them worked in COP60,000 pesos per hour casas, then go find a sucker at Gusto later that night. Just for comparison's sake, their monthly minimum salary is COP980,000. That's for a month's worth of work, 160 hours. Duh!


Nobody is paying USD 250 per hour in Colombia.

What was mentioned previously is For escorts in the upper end of the quality scale:

120,000 pesos for one hour = US $32 US dollars.

240,000 pesos for 2 hours = 64,98 US dollars.

And 300,000 pesos for 3 hours = 81,23 US dollars.

Of course, if you're looking for a specific particular escort you may have to pay a little bit more. If you take any escort thEN You will find someone at the standard rates.There are many factors to take into account like is Her schedule already full?



in Colombia a lot of people are generally welcoming and friendly to Respectful foreigners. The local escorts do offer the girlfriend experience. In Colombia does not have the 1st world type of problem of skyrocketing prices. For example, a 10 m apartment without a bathroom for $3,000,000 US/Euro/pounds. Of course, Respectfully said, saving face, no country is perfect. Yes it's true that the escorts provide girlfriend experience in Colombia, but this friendly girlfriend experience can also be found in many other places in the world.

Member #4665
09-06-20, 01:12
The thirsty retards paying girls in Gusto disco US $200 for an hour's work. That is COP750,000 pesos for an hour. These skanks, some of them worked in COP60,000 pesos per hour casas, then go find a sucker at Gusto later that night. Just for comparison's sake, their monthly minimum salary is COP980,000. That's for a month's worth of work, 160 hours. Duh!Well after thinking about it maybe there are 2 explanations. (1) the girls are taking advantage of the guys. (2) the guys are being generous.

Doesn't matter if an escort looks like a statue 10 out of 10. If she is taking advantage of the guy There will always be a better escort. Scammers will score a few economic Profits here and there. Honest hard-working Reliable people will reap the benefits for lifetime.

Kafka
09-06-20, 02:03
There are always going to be suckers but there are thousands of girls and very few suckers.


The thirsty retards paying girls in Gusto disco US $200 for an hour's work. That is COP750,000 pesos for an hour. These skanks, some of them worked in COP60,000 pesos per hour casas, then go find a sucker at Gusto later that night. Just for comparison's sake, their monthly minimum salary is COP980,000. That's for a month's worth of work, 160 hours. Duh!

Combo
09-06-20, 02:11
The thirsty retards paying girls in Gusto disco US $200 for an hour's work. That is COP750,000 pesos for an hour. These skanks, some of them worked in COP60,000 pesos per hour casas, then go find a sucker at Gusto later that night. Just for comparison's sake, their monthly minimum salary is COP980,000. That's for a month's worth of work, 160 hours. Duh!And that minimum salary is not like the minimum salary in the US, where only a small % of the population makes the minimum wage. In Colombia, a large percentage of the population will never make more than the minimum wage. And there is also a significant portion of the Colombian labor force with "informal" jobs that don't even pay the minimum wage.

Surfer500
09-06-20, 03:23
And that minimum salary is not like the minimum salary in the US, where only a small % of the population makes the minimum wage. In Colombia, a large percentage of the population will never make more than the minimum wage. And there is also a significant portion of the Colombian labor force with "informal" jobs that don't even pay the minimum wage.And as your probably aware, the minimum wage also typically includes working half a day on Saturdays as well. In my building the lady who does the building cleaning and light maintenance puts in 8 eight hours a day Monday thru Friday and has to work 1/2 day on Saturdays as well.

Zeos1
09-06-20, 03:33
Well after thinking about it maybe there are 2 explanations. (1) the girls are taking advantage of the guys. (2) the guys are being generous.

Doesn't matter if an escort looks like a statue 10 out of 10. If she is taking advantage of the guy There will always be a better escort. Scammers will score a few economic Profits here and there. Honest hard-working Reliable people will reap the benefits for lifetime.Naw. People staying at the Charlee or other touristy hotels, and they know nothing about the country or the opportunities. They walk down the street, get invited in to go up and see, and it is like paradise. Gorgeous women, loud music, friendly gorgeous women, drinks, really friendly really gorgeous women. And only a couple of hundred bucks or so. Been there and observed it. Saw a chica I had been with a few days earlier (for 200 K) taking a guy she met at Gusto off on her moto to somewhere to do the deed, guarantee it was at least $200 US. Probably more like $300 or more. She was gorgeous. Not really taking advantage. Just marketing and being in the right place at the right time. When she was in Gusto I'm sure she had her price. And if it was $300 it would not have been a dollar less. And where I was it was 200 K COP (say $60) and she wouldn't go down to 150 which was more the going price. And I would not argue with her logic. In Gusto's she is worth every penny of that. And where I was she was worth every peso of what I paid. Just that I wouldn't be the guy in Gusto. But I bet he's still telling his buddies back in the states about her. If you're paying a few hundred a night at your hotel, and enjoying a few days in Colombia, that was probably the best money that guy spent there.

ColombiaLover
09-06-20, 03:55
What's worse is that, in my experience, most of the girls in Gusto's are not gorgeous. There are a few stunners, but many are average and some shouldn't bother. I say that from limited experience, but that was my impression. Never pulled a chica from there. Never stayed long enough to buy a drink because I was not impressed with the chicas.


Naw. People staying at the Charlee or other touristy hotels, and they know nothing about the country or the opportunities. They walk down the street, get invited in to go up and see, and it is like paradise. Gorgeous women, loud music, friendly gorgeous women, drinks, really friendly really gorgeous women. And only a couple of hundred bucks or so. Been there and observed it. Saw a chica I had been with a few days earlier (for 200 K) taking a guy she met at Gusto off on her moto to somewhere to do the deed, guarantee it was at least $200 US. Probably more like $300 or more. She was gorgeous. Not really taking advantage. Just marketing and being in the right place at the right time. When she was in Gusto I'm sure she had her price. And if it was $300 it would not have been a dollar less. And where I was it was 200 K COP (say $60) and she wouldn't go down to 150 which was more the going price. And I would not argue with her logic. In Gusto's she is worth every penny of that. And where I was she was worth every peso of what I paid. Just that I wouldn't be the guy in Gusto. But I bet he's still telling his buddies back in the states about her. If you're paying a few hundred a night at your hotel, and enjoying a few days in Colombia, that was probably the best money that guy spent there.

Blakman
09-06-20, 07:28
So there you have it doughnut. As stated in my copy and paste post. International flights ban extended til October for sure and my gut speculation November. Sjob you can forget making it to Colombia September.

Blakman
09-06-20, 07:53
As a recent newbie. I stayed in Gustos for Just 15 minutes. I saw some legit bodies inside and regret I didn't stay longer. Being a cheapy charlie and reading all the post of expensive drinks and Chicas are expensive was influential in my short stay at the club. I disagree with not entertaining the club. Go and enjoy. Try to get as much contacts as you can. And then hope later to communicate with them for less. Theres another club that has good looking chicas as well. Lleras Park Club. I agree do not pay the outrageous price they suggest initially. I met 2 7/8 from the clubs. One stuck with 225 mil /1. 5 hours and and my 8 I call her dropped to 145 mil for TLN.


What's worse is that, in my experience, most of the girls in Gusto's are not gorgeous. There are a few stunners, but many are average and some shouldn't bother. I say that from limited experience, but that was my impression. Never pulled a chica from there. Never stayed long enough to buy a drink because I was not impressed with the chicas.

JjBee62
09-06-20, 14:27
As a recent newbie. I stayed in Gustos for Just 15 minutes. I saw some legit bodies inside and regret I didn't stay longer. Being a cheapy charlie and reading all the post of expensive drinks and Chicas are expensive was influential in my short stay at the club. I disagree with not entertaining the club. Go and enjoy. Try to get as much contacts as you can. And then hope later to communicate with them for less. Theres another club that has good looking chicas as well. Lleras Park Club. I agree do not pay the outrageous price they suggest initially. I met 2 7/8 from the clubs. One stuck with 225 mil /1. 5 hours and and my 8 I call her dropped to 145 mil for TLN.There's a trick to Gusto. Find a gringo who is in a party mood and who feels like spending money. Steer him to Gusto (or follow along when he suggests Gusto). Let him start a tab. Drink for free, collect WhatsApp numbers and then steer him to Club Fahrenheit when Gusto closes (or follow along when he suggests Club Fahrenheit). Repeat.

Partied until 7 am and only spent 10 k. And Fahrenheit was walking distance to my apartment.

PimpJuic3
09-06-20, 15:29
So there you have it doughnut. As stated in my copy and paste post. International flights ban extended til October for sure and my gut speculation November. Sjob you can forget making it to Colombia September.Check out this website if you want an up to date search of where you can and cannot fly to depending on the passport you hold. It looks like Colombia is not allowing international travelers until after October 1st, although I wouldn't be surprised if they extended it to Nov 1st in the future.

https://canitravel.net/

SJobs
09-06-20, 16:17
So there you have it doughnut. As stated in my copy and paste post. International flights ban extended til October for sure and my gut speculation November. Sjob you can forget making it to Colombia September.Yeah, my 17th flight on AA got canceled too. I already booked on the 24th flight, if that gets canceled, I will book the next one. Regardless, I will be on the first flight to Medellin, and hopefully I don't ever have to come back.

On Aug 28 Duque said they were working on the protocols for air travel from / to neighboring countries, and they should have something within 10 days, which will take us to Monday, Sept 7. If they open up air travel to Ecuador or Brazil, I will be on the first flight to there and then hop over to Medellin, well if I get to Brazil, I might never leave.

Luminus
09-07-20, 01:15
Just checked the link, don't know it's validity but from my country I am allowed in Dominican and Brazil, might have to change plans if Colombia doesn't open until next year!


Check out this website if you want an up to date search of where you can and cannot fly to depending on the passport you hold. It looks like Colombia is not allowing international travelers until after October 1st, although I wouldn't be surprised if they extended it to Nov 1st in the future.

https://canitravel.net/

Just Incognito
09-07-20, 06:08
Yeah, my 17th flight on AA got canceled too. I already booked on the 24th flight, if that gets canceled, I will book the next one. Regardless, I will be on the first flight to Medellin, and hopefully I don't ever have to come back.

On Aug 28 Duque said they were working on the protocols for air travel from / to neighboring countries, and they should have something within 10 days, which will take us to Monday, Sept 7. If they open up air travel to Ecuador or Brazil, I will be on the first flight to there and then hop over to Medellin, well if I get to Brazil, I might never leave.You won't be in Medellin until mid-2021. Just accept it and stop with the desperation already. Its annoying LOL.

Hexzor
09-07-20, 08:00
I've kept up with the Bogota and Medellin threads, but I haven't heard much mention of Cam girls. It's a pretty popular place for meeting women in Phils, but there doesn't seem to be much discussion about it on the Colombia boards, despite the Colombians having a huge presence in the webcam industry. I'm wondering if anyone has had success meeting women for P4P this way. The advantage is you get some interaction from the comfort of your house, you get to see them naked, and you can get a feel for how wild they might be. I'm stuck in my home country, but I'm planning on visiting Colombia, and I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to try to set something up with a few hot cam girls before I arrive.

The Tall Man
09-07-20, 17:24
As you all keep scrambling to find a flight into Colombia / Medellin ASAP those of us 'stuck' (hehehehe) here in Medellin for the past almost 6 months getting more sweet pussy in these past 6 months than the average horny guy gets in a lifetime, no joke, it's everywhere.

Just the other day my wing-man and I met 2 paisas in Botero, within 10 minutes were driving to our crib then partied with these cuties for the next few hours, 100 mil and drinks and snacks.

Nowhere in the world, I mean nowhere do you have the ability to meet and party with these paisa chicas, they just love to party and have fun, it is like the free love and free spirited days of the 1960's in San Francisco and Woodstock era, really incredible free spirited girls.

My gawd I could hardly drive as my paisa beauty was all over me with my pants unzipped and my buddy with his girl in the back seat finger banging her, hehehehe all the time trying to drive on the autopista.

Can't make this shit up.

Love it forever!

The Tall Man.

Member #4665
09-07-20, 20:23
Saw a chica I had been with a few days earlier (for 200 K) taking a guy she met at Gusto off on her moto to somewhere to do the deed, guarantee it was at least $200 US. Probably more like $300 or more. She was gorgeous. Not really taking advantage. Just marketing and being in the right place at the right time. When she was in Gusto I'm sure she had her price. And if it was $300 it would not have been a dollar less. And where I was it was 200 K COP (say $60) and she wouldn't go down to 150 which was more the going price. And I would not argue with her logic. In Gusto's she is worth every penny of that. What you are saying is valid. We don't have to agree there are different points of view.

A different point of view is that the girl is charging US $200 for something worth 200 K. Doesn't matter how gorgeous she is. Not really the type person I would enjoy dancing with. Seems like a dishonest backstaber or to me. If she loves me so much and I am her Friend, if we are an economic partnership, then why up charge me by More than 300%? The irony is if the chemistry was right and she is honest and hard-working and generous with her loving then she would have received a lot more than US $200.

There are times when it is not so easy to know if you are paying more. 1 of the situations I know someone who actually paid more because it was just impossible to investigate the standard rates. The girl was so honest she gave him the money back and told him what the standard rates are. So the guy then made sure to rebook her several times to give her all that money that she had returned Him. That seems to me like an honest gorgeous girl. The other girl was up charging by 300% is just a backstaber.

There is no such thing as easy money. There may be an exception here and there, but That is because every rule can have a few exceptions. The only easy money situation would be like yeah that was easy money but only after 10 years of training. So go train for 10 years and then tell me if that was easy all that training.

Plus if her customers find out about the standard rate they may actually be angry with her. And a lot of angry people are vengeful. So this is not a good situation. Now the other hand if the customer is being generous then I guess she deserved her money.

LoveItHere69
09-07-20, 21:13
OMG! I could not believe what day it was when I woke up this morning. Do you know what day it was? Christmas for me yet again. Fingers are getting worn out opening all my gifts. So now I have the girls undress themselves.

OK. The truth now.

The chicas are so ugly and starting to smell now. The girls I pay 30-50 said as soon as the stupid gringos land they are all going to charge 130-150. They all started and joined this new union. They are all union workers now. It is called "Going to get mine and then some! They informed me that I would be grandfathered in at the original rate.

Elvis 2008
09-07-20, 22:05
As you all keep scrambling to find a flight into Colombia / Medellin ASAP those of us 'stuck' (hehehehe) here in Medellin for the past almost 6 months getting more sweet pussy in these past 6 months than the average horny guy gets in a lifetime, no joke, it's everywhere.

Just the other day my wing-man and I met 2 paisas in Botero, within 10 minutes were driving to our crib then partied with these cuties for the next few hours, 100 mil and drinks and snacks.

Love it forever!

The Tall Man.I am so jelly, TM. Shit, I have been helping out a few chicas in Colombia and four more I have just been talking to. They are so horny my God these Colombian women have no inhibitions. I do not know who or even where I am going to start, probably MDE if I have a choice or maybe CTG if the reports are right.

The thing is even after the flights do open up, most guys are going to be scared to go, and I am not seeing any of my chicas getting any work anytime soon. I bet it is as good as you are seeing now for the next year. At least I can hope. Man I wish I was there.

MarquisdeSade1
09-07-20, 23:31
What you are saying is valid. We don't have to agree there are different points of view.

A different point of view is that the girl is charging US $200 for something worth 200 K. Doesn't matter how gorgeous she is. Not really the type person I would enjoy dancing with. Seems like a dishonest backstaber or to me. If she loves me so much and I am her Friend, if we are an economic partnership, then why up charge me by More than 300%? The irony is if the chemistry was right and she is honest and hard-working and generous with her loving then she would have received a lot more than US $200.

There are times when it is not so easy to know if you are paying more. 1 of the situations I know someone who actually paid more because it was just impossible to investigate the standard rates. The girl was so honest she gave him the money back and told him what the standard rates are. So the guy then made sure to rebook her several times to give her all that money that she had returned Him. That seems to me like an honest gorgeous girl. The other girl was up charging by 300% is just a backstaber.

There is no such thing as easy money. There may be an exception here and there, but That is because every rule can have a few exceptions. The only easy money situation would be like yeah that was easy money but only after 10 years of training. So go train for 10 years and then tell me if that was easy all that training.

Plus if her customers find out about the standard rate they may actually be angry with her. And a lot of angry people are vengeful. So this is not a good situation. Now the other hand if the customer is being generous then I guess she deserved her money.Its a little tricky following your post are you drinking? LOL.

Quick story, several years ago, I agree to fuk a super hot 18 yo spinner BBFS for dos mil pesos in Tijuana 2 x what I typically would ever agree to.

Long story short I fuck her like a porn star, and fill her with my salsa, I pull out 2 1000 mil notes and hand her them before we leave the room and she hands one back to me and gives me a big kiss LOL.

Now that's what I call that a great session LOL.

Psychman
09-08-20, 00:11
You won't be in Medellin until mid-2021. Just accept it and stop with the desperation already. Its annoying LOL.Remember this kind of kid on the playground?

JjBee62
09-08-20, 00:20
I've kept up with the Bogota and Medellin threads, but I haven't heard much mention of Cam girls. It's a pretty popular place for meeting women in Phils, but there doesn't seem to be much discussion about it on the Colombia boards, despite the Colombians having a huge presence in the webcam industry. I'm wondering if anyone has had success meeting women for P4P this way. The advantage is you get some interaction from the comfort of your house, you get to see them naked, and you can get a feel for how wild they might be. I'm stuck in my home country, but I'm planning on visiting Colombia, and I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to try to set something up with a few hot cam girls before I arrive.I guess it's been a few months since we've had this conversation.

The short answer is"No."

Yes, it is possible, but mostly you are going to be wasting your time and your money.

A Colombian webcam model who is supporting herself is taking home $500-$1000 per week or more. If she's successful, double that. Typically she's working 20-40 hours. That puts her income at 8-16 times minimum wage, up to 30 times minimum wage if she's successful. Why would she choose to spend an hour having sex with a complete stranger for the same amount as she makes during an hour on webcam?

There are other obstacles.

If she's working for a studio, and almost all of them are, she probably has a monitor. A monitor is someone who works for the studio who helps her. The monitor also reads all the chat, including PMs and tip notes. In many cases it's the monitor who is answering the PMs. You'll be trying to set up a date with a girl by talking to a guy whose job is to keep the girl from setting up dates.

Getting her attention is another obstacle. You're going to have to spend some money before she'll take you seriously. 1000 tokens costs you $80. Figure a minimum of 500 tokens per week for 6 weeks before you move high enough up her list to get her WhatsApp. That's $240 just to get to the stage where you can eventually try to get a date. Continue at that level until you're in Colombia. If your lead time is 6 months you'll spend over $1000 before you have a chance to even meet her.

A typical facebook girl will cost you $60 with taxi for a minimum of 1 hour. If you go to a casa you'll spend $15 for 30 minutes.

If you enjoy webcams, have fun with the webcams. But if you think the webcam models are going to be easy pickings, you're going to be disappointed.

Gringo Trooper
09-08-20, 01:02
International flights to CTG back in business on September 21st. As per the Cartagena thread.

National flights in Colombia have already been going on.

Therefore, arrive internationally to CTG and then pop on over to MDE.

Or maybe, we will see more news soon regarding dates for other international airports in Colombia.

SJobs
09-08-20, 01:53
You won't be in Medellin until mid-2021. Just accept it and stop with the desperation already. Its annoying LOL.Do you have any concrete data to show the likelihood of Colombia being closed until mid next year? I think through persistence one will get through, this is not an unsolvable problem. If you find my post annoying, just don't read it, I couldn't care less about how it makes you feel, your feeling is completely irrelevant to me.

SJobs
09-08-20, 02:01
Remember this kind of kid on the playground?Well, I remember kids on the play ground who give up everything on the first try, when things gets tough, they are the first one who quits and they hate to see other people continue trying. I respect their existence, and they normally end up working for me; I will divide a seemingly unsolvable problem into small pieces so they can comfortably work on it. Anyways, people are different, some give up easily some will continue trying, I'm not the kind of person who give up on things easily.

SJobs
09-08-20, 02:08
International flights to CTG back in business on September 21st. As per the Cartagena thread.

National flights in Colombia have already been going on.

Therefore, arrive internationally to CTG and then pop on over to MDE.

Or maybe, we will see more news soon regarding dates for other international airports in Colombia.Thanks for this information. I have seen multiple sources today include a twit from the major of Cartagena (https://twitter.com/NoticiasRCN/status/1303133345358979072?s=20) stating the 9/21 opening date. I have already brought a ticket to Cartagena on 9/21. I still have two Medellin tickets for late this month, if the Cartagena route solidifies, I will cancel my Medellin flights. What's the best way to get from Cartagena to Medellin? Has the domestic flights resumed?

Zeos1
09-08-20, 02:41
What you are saying is valid. We don't have to agree there are different points of view.

A different point of view is that the girl is charging US $200 for something worth 200 K. Doesn't matter how gorgeous she is. Not really the type person I would enjoy dancing with. Seems like a dishonest backstaber or to me. If she loves me so much and I am her Friend, if we are an economic partnership, then why up charge me by More than 300%? The irony is if the chemistry was right and she is honest and hard-working and generous with her loving then she would have received a lot more than US $200.

There are times when it is not so easy to know if you are paying more. 1 of the situations I know someone who actually paid more because it was just impossible to investigate the standard rates. The girl was so honest she gave him the money back and told him what the standard rates are. So the guy then made sure to rebook her several times to give her all that money that she had returned Him. That seems to me like an honest gorgeous girl. The other girl was up charging by 300% is just a backstaber.

There is no such thing as easy money. There may be an exception here and there, but That is because every rule can have a few exceptions. The only easy money situation would be like yeah that was easy money but only after 10 years of training. So go train for 10 years and then tell me if that was easy all that training.

Plus if her customers find out about the standard rate they may actually be angry with her. And a lot of angry people are vengeful. So this is not a good situation. Now the other hand if the customer is being generous then I guess she deserved her money.The problem with your logic is simple. You say she was charging $200 for something worth 200 K pesos. I don't agree with that. She was charging what the going rates were in each place. More power to her. It's not a requirement that she always charge some theoretical "correct" rate. The rate is what 2 people agree on. She was a great deal at both rates. And for sure she knows the difference. It's really no different than the worker in Vegas that charges $800, and a similar worker in Colombia that charges 80 K pesos. Different place, different environment, 2 people that agree on the price. Perfect.

As I said. I'm not the guy that's going to pay 2 or 3 hundred US in Gustos. But if everyone is happy. I have absolutely no problem with it. And yes, if some of these customers find out that other venues result in a cheaper price perhaps they might react. But, remember, no matter what you pay someone else probably paid a lot less, and others a lot more. Depending on location, circumstances, etc. As long as everyone is happy. Fair deal.

Nounce
09-08-20, 03:01
Anyways, people are different, some give up easily some will continue trying, I'm not the kind of person who give up on things easily.Sports are the same way. People who can surf because of the same reason.

Paulie97
09-08-20, 04:27
I think through persistence one will get through, this is not an unsolvable problem. If you find my post annoying, just don't read it, I couldn't care less about how it makes you feel, your feeling is completely irrelevant to me.It's a "problem" that is totally out of your hands, thus there is nothing to "solve. " You'll get in when the way is clear. In the meantime jack off or buy a local hooker. Ultimately no one here cares when or how you get your dick wet or how many airlines tickets you buy. When there is some definite news we will all know soon enough.

SlapShot10
09-08-20, 14:03
International flights to CTG back in business on September 21st. As per the Cartagena thread.

National flights in Colombia have already been going on.

Therefore, arrive internationally to CTG and then pop on over to MDE.

Or maybe, we will see more news soon regarding dates for other international airports in Colombia.https://www.dinero.com/amp/vuelos-internacionales-colombia-cartagena-recibira-vuelos-el-21-de-septiembre/299396?fbclid=IwAR279hFni_qMOZxITLFFNN-q8a1_mdnXZW7MjOMTYCDGbbL5T5ZFCYagwU4

No, I did not read every word. SJobs and others can do that, but here is the link.

I had an amazing trio with the Sex Goddess and Pinky on Saturday. It went exactly as I expected. It started with the girls being a bit stand-offish, SG making stupid little comments like how she didn't bring a bikini and I already know she doesn't like the jacuzzi (because that makes her like all the others), and other shit to not-so-subtly prove she has been over and knows me well. She asked Pinky's age in a way that demonstrated she was older, wiser, more mature, classy, blah blah blah. As we sat down for dinner, things loosened up, then more so when Pinky brought out a blunt for them to share. Pinky set her up with a bikini and we were off. SG was fucking hammering Pinky in the jacuzzi. It was no holds barred in the bedroom. Holy shit. SG was giving me beso negro as Pinky was going down on her, SG was punishing Pinky. It had been about 3-4 days since I blew my load, mostly because of the dental surgery, and going out to Lleras a couple nights. I blew a huge load on Pinky's ass. The contrast is amazing. Anyway, long story short, it was fantastic. Pinky has a new favorite, which is perfect for me, because her past favorite was getting a belly from quarantine. She's cute, nice, and fun, but just not worth the 200-250k she wants to come hang out with Pinky and get banged once or twice. I think SG will be back again, soon, and maybe at the price of Uber-only, again.

I moved into my new place in Laureles, and I brought the handyman from my last place to fix the jacuzzi tub. Should be done by tonight or tomorrow. I got a good deal and got a few days free. The projector screen was awesome for watching sports, last night, with the wifi being much better than my last spot. It's a much more chill vibe, here, and will hopefully be a nice change of pace for a month. In October, I'll decide whether to move back towards Poblado, or maybe consider a finca or hit some new spots (Pereira, San Andres, Santa Marta, etc.).

Cheers!

Knowledge
09-08-20, 15:02
Slapshot,

I enjoyed your report as usual. Perhaps it's a language barrier, the quotes the mayor of Cartagena about the September 21 date. It is of course not a decision he can make individually. The link also references President Duque's statement of last month that pilot international flights are authorized to begin this month. The third source referenced is the Minister of Transportation's statement that there is as yet no confirmed date for resuming international flights and it depends on bilateral agreements with other countries. Basically, it's more of the same all these random clickbait links provide. No new information. Thirsty guys are driving web analytics statistics through the roof with frantic searches for ways into Colombia. Savvy web marketers are cashing in by strategically wording headlines to suggest a breakthrough or new information. The result is what we see here and elsewhere on the Internet. Once again, for those interested in useful and accurate information, stick to the government websites. The President's and the Transportation Ministry. The President also has a daily evening briefing on television and a weekly facebook live digest that is also broadcast on television.


https://www.dinero.com/amp/vuelos-internacionales-colombia-cartagena-recibira-vuelos-el-21-de-septiembre/299396?fbclid=IwAR279hFni_qMOZxITLFFNN-q8a1_mdnXZW7MjOMTYCDGbbL5T5ZFCYagwU4

No, I did not read every word. SJobs and others can do that, but here is the link.

I had an amazing trio with the Sex Goddess and Pinky on Saturday. It went exactly as I expected. It started with the girls being a bit stand-offish, SG making stupid little comments like how she didn't bring a bikini and I already know she doesn't like the jacuzzi (because that makes her like all the others), and other shit to not-so-subtly prove she has been over and knows me well. She asked Pinky's age in a way that demonstrated she was older, wiser, more mature, classy, blah blah blah. As we sat down for dinner, things loosened up, then more so when Pinky brought out a blunt for them to share. Pinky set her up with a bikini and we were off. SG was fucking hammering Pinky in the jacuzzi. It was no holds barred in the bedroom. Holy shit. SG was giving me beso negro as Pinky was going down on her, SG was punishing Pinky. It had been about 3-4 days since I blew my load, mostly because of the dental surgery, and going out to Lleras a couple nights. I blew a huge load on Pinky's ass. The contrast is amazing.

Lugnut
09-08-20, 15:10
I've been out with webcam models who I matched with on Tinder. I've also been out with one, who I contacted through Instagram (yes, getting past the monitor is the challenge). I think that you wildly overstate the average income of a cam model. Sure, the top earners are earning great money. But most do not earn $500-$1000 per week. For example, on chaturbate right now, there are 18 pages of models who will do privates for 6 tokens per minute. They're sitting in their lonely studio with few users, eeking out a living, at best.

Hitting up a successful camgirl? Forget it. But there are many, many more girls on the cam sites who earn more from a couple hour date than from spending that time in the studio, splitting what little tokens come in, with the host and with the studio.

This is just my friendly take, after spending a year here, and learning from my GF who owned a studio for years, and flipping through all of her payroll records.

Camgirls in Medellin are a dime a dozen, and are on the table.


I guess it's been a few months since we've had this conversation.

The short answer is"No."

Yes, it is possible, but mostly you are going to be wasting your time and your money.

A Colombian webcam model who is supporting herself is taking home $500-$1000 per week or more. If she's successful, double that. Typically she's working 20-40 hours. That puts her income at 8-16 times minimum wage, up to 30 times minimum wage if she's successful. Why would she choose to spend an hour having sex with a complete stranger for the same amount as she makes during an hour on webcam?

There are other obstacles.

If she's working for a studio, and almost all of them are, she probably has a monitor. A monitor is someone who works for the studio who helps her. The monitor also reads all the chat, including PMs and tip notes. In many cases it's the monitor who is answering the PMs. You'll be trying to set up a date with a girl by talking to a guy whose job is to keep the girl from setting up dates..

Just Incognito
09-08-20, 15:49
Remember this kind of kid on the playground?The kid who always go picked 1st or 2nd and did well in class, while acknowledging reality to those living in desperate delusion?

Yeah, I remember him!

This board doesn't need to be taken over by non stop moaning and crying from people who refuse to understand or accept the reality of what is happening on planet Earth. Lets get back to chica reviews and real informaiton about the scene and how the girls are operating that would be useful to people when Medellin is back to mostly normal a year from now. There will be future waves / spikes in cases and a lagging property / real estate drag on the economy that is yet to come and will effect the on the ground situation there. We're only 1/2 of the way through the main drag of the pandemic.

The best thing all of us can do to get this thing over with and get back to Medellin and having the fun we want --is to stay home, only go out with a mask on, wash / sanitize properly, and stop flying / traveling. This only continues because people are thinking short term immediate needs--and not longer term smart thoughts. We can kill this virus without vaccines if we really put some effort in.

Do you guys want to keep this nonsense going or get back to banging hotties around the world for inexpensive prices?

Quit bitching and moaning and cluttering up this space and pushing for some rushed flight plan that ignores science--and start using science to achieve success. Stay home, stay clean. Don't be a part of the problem.

The non stop desperate droning on about get a BJ in Medellin because you are lonely at home in the US, while ignoring science, policy and common sense--isn't helping anyone or anything.

Has all the complaining and desperate diatribes about creating some work around to subvert the system and get to Medellin actually gotten anyone anywhere? NO. It's just noise. Enough already. Time to man up, be patient-and help be a part of the solution. So all of us can get back to the lifestyle we want.

Thats all this kid on the playground is saying. This kid is trying to lead his team to victory. While appreciating and congratulating those who have put themselves in the position to have safe and fun times in Medellin now.

The less we cling to desperate delusions of undermining the system to get some action and the more we stick to chica reviews and supporting the things we all know we all need to do to get covid under control--the better for all of us.

Now, back to the topic this is supposed to be about:

I have had 3 girls message me recently asking if I could send them some help now, and claiming they will thank me upon my return to Medellin. I feel for them--but nobody EVER gets my money until AFTER we session. Not months before our next possible session LOL. Porn is free online. I don't need their pictures and videos. LOL. And while I feel for the desperation (its a theme around these parts) these girls are going through with less business for less money--I didn't create their problems-so I am not responsible for solving their problems!

Even when Medellin opens up to flights--the same thing will happen that happens everywhere: within a month the numbers spike, the airspace shuts and everything gets even more complicated. You can con or cheat around a virus--that's why Trump is failing so bad--he only knows how to con and cheat. Everyone be patient. You'll all get laid in Colombia next year. Its okay. You'l make it. Use this time to get healthier and more fit and save your dollars for the victory parade after vaccine distribution combined with other therapies and extra rapid -at home- insta-result testing that allows tracing and isolation happens next year--and this all gets mostly resolved. Until then--the magic word is patience!

Just Incognito
09-08-20, 15:57
https://www.dinero.com/amp/vuelos-internacionales-colombia-cartagena-recibira-vuelos-el-21-de-septiembre/299396?fbclid=IwAR279hFni_qMOZxITLFFNN-q8a1_mdnXZW7MjOMTYCDGbbL5T5ZFCYagwU4

No, I did not read every word. SJobs and others can do that, but here is the link.

I had an amazing trio with the Sex Goddess and Pinky on Saturday. It went exactly as I expected. It started with the girls being a bit stand-offish, SG making stupid little comments like how she didn't bring a bikini and I already know she doesn't like the jacuzzi (because that makes her like all the others), and other shit to not-so-subtly prove she has been over and knows me well. She asked Pinky's age in a way that demonstrated she was older, wiser, more mature, classy, blah blah blah. As we sat down for dinner, things loosened up, then more so when Pinky brought out a blunt for them to share. Pinky set her up with a bikini and we were off. SG was fucking hammering Pinky in the jacuzzi. It was no holds barred in the bedroom. Holy shit. SG was giving me beso negro as Pinky was going down on her, SG was punishing Pinky. It had been about 3-4 days since I blew my load, mostly because of the dental surgery, and going out to Lleras a couple nights. I blew a huge load on Pinky's ass. The contrast is amazing. Anyway, long story short, it was fantastic. Pinky has a new favorite, which is perfect for me, because her past favorite was getting a belly from quarantine. She's cute, nice, and fun, but just not worth the 200-250k she wants to come hang out with Pinky and get banged once or twice. I think SG will be back again, soon, and maybe at the price of Uber-only, again.Thanks to you, The Tall Man and Pollo Negro for using this board as its intended and offering real knowledge and insight into what's happening on the ground in MDE. Its appreciated.

IamLookin
09-08-20, 19:17
I agree with you on webcam models especially with chaturbate. I have known 3 Facebook girls that have tried this only to quit in a very short time. I'm sure there are some super models out there that make a living doing this but very very few do. Alot of times these girls can't even cover their transportation costs.


I've been out with webcam models who I matched with on Tinder. I've also been out with one, who I contacted through Instagram (yes, getting past the monitor is the challenge). I think that you wildly overstate the average income of a cam model. Sure, the top earners are earning great money. But most do not earn $500-$1000 per week. For example, on chaturbate right now, there are 18 pages of models who will do privates for 6 tokens per minute. They're sitting in their lonely studio with few users, eeking out a living, at best.

Hitting up a successful camgirl? Forget it. But there are many, many more girls on the cam sites who earn more from a couple hour date than from spending that time in the studio, splitting what little tokens come in, with the host and with the studio.

This is just my friendly take, after spending a year here, and learning from my GF who owned a studio for years, and flipping through all of her payroll records.

Camgirls in Medellin are a dime a dozen, and are on the table..

Elvis 2008
09-08-20, 20:34
To you and to all others who commented variously this news, I hate to remind that having international flights connecting an airport is a necessary condition for foreigners to reach that country, but it is largely not sufficient.
The second necessary condition is that government regulations do allow foreigners to enter. We can only speculate when it will happen, but if we bet 10 bucks I would not bet that people from Europe or USA will be free to enter Colombia as tourists in 2020. Just 10 buck, ok?Sigh, why you would you speculate when the Colombian government has already announced the citizens of which countries they will let in? Hint: the USA was one of them.

Anyone want to bet him $10?

Surfer500
09-08-20, 20:45
To you and to all others who commented variously this news, I hate to remind that having international flights connecting an airport is a necessary condition for foreigners to reach that country, but it is largely not sufficient.
The second necessary condition is that government regulations do allow foreigners to enter. We can only speculate when it will happen, but if we bet 10 bucks I would not bet that people from Europe or USA will be free to enter Colombia as tourists in 2020. Just 10 buck, ok?

You can have international flights resumed, still foreigners not allowed to enter unless for well documented reasons.
As an example, Singapore Changi has been connected to most world hubs and its international flights were resumed 2 or 3 months ago on a reduced schedule, but still no short-time visitors from almost any country are allowed to enter Singapore. The Minister said to forget it at least for the entire 2020. International flights have been resumed for Singapore citizens, for long-time pass holders, or for those others who have to go to Singapore for important business and for an extended period. Basically, only for "essential travel". Also, 2-week quarantine is enforced.
https://www.mfa.gov.sg/Services/Singapore-Citizens/COVID-19-Travel-Restrictions
https://www.ica.gov.sg/covid-19
https://safetravel.ica.gov.sg/

We all hate continence, so at least we should exercise patience, the most important virtue to exercise for the next months.Hopefully your dead wrong that Colombia will be shutdown until next year to visitors. The reality is that the article stating that Cartagena was going to be open to International flights starting September 21st was just all fiction. In essence it was a proclamation by the Mayor of the City of Caratagena that the City would be ready to receive International passengers on that date, and nothing more.

You can't blame the mayor for wanting tourists and other travellers returning though. Everyone is so hell bent on returning, and rightly so, yet the final word will be when the President announces it.

Member #4665
09-08-20, 21:03
It's really no different than the worker in Vegas that charges $800, I'm not criticizing the woman in Las Vegas that earns 800. I'm criticizing the woman in Las Vegas that charges 1600 For service that cost 800.

This post is for all the New forum members: All those in Colombia advise you not to go to the club Gustos. Where girls are charging Between 750,000 to 1,121,703. 00 pesos for service you can get for 300,000. Just the other day my friend got 1 of the hottest girls on seeking 3 hours for 300,000 +50,000 tip. And if you are not so picky choosy with the girls you can probably get a lower price at a brothel. If you're concerned about wages being too low than pay her more out of Righteousness, or kindness and generosity. Ask her to come back so she can double her wages. But don't get scammed. Think about this girl Pinky, She got she got 250000 and if that isn't enough she keeps coming back for more.

A scam is a scam no matter All the technicalities the scammer Has. The day all the girls start charging 1,000,000 is the day all the sexual tourist in the city Will choose another destination. This forum would not have 39,000 post and a lively community. So good luck with scaring your customers away. Think about New York pay $1500 per hour or take the bus into Canada Where you can pay 210 per hour.There's probably like 3 losers in all New York paying 1500 everyone else smarter than to let people scam them selves.

The standard rate as established by the market is 1 of the most important factors in the scientific process of negotiating. You can go above the standard or below the standard depending on the situation. But the standard exists and is very real, That being said a standard can subjectively understood as incorrect or uninformed.

Kafka
09-08-20, 21:33
What does Singapore have to do with this? Mexico is already open for US.


To you and to all others who commented variously this news, I hate to remind that having international flights connecting an airport is a necessary condition for foreigners to reach that country, but it is largely not sufficient.
The second necessary condition is that government regulations do allow foreigners to enter. We can only speculate when it will happen, but if we bet 10 bucks I would not bet that people from Europe or USA will be free to enter Colombia as tourists in 2020. Just 10 buck, ok?

You can have international flights resumed, still foreigners not allowed to enter unless for well documented reasons.
As an example, Singapore Changi has been connected to most world hubs and its international flights were resumed 2 or 3 months ago on a reduced schedule, but still no short-time visitors from almost any country are allowed to enter Singapore. The Minister said to forget it at least for the entire 2020. International flights have been resumed for Singapore citizens, for long-time pass holders, or for those others who have to go to Singapore for important business and for an extended period. Basically, only for "essential travel". Also, 2-week quarantine is enforced.
https://www.mfa.gov.sg/Services/Singapore-Citizens/COVID-19-Travel-Restrictions
https://www.ica.gov.sg/covid-19
https://safetravel.ica.gov.sg/

We all hate continence, so at least we should exercise patience, the most important virtue to exercise for the next months.

Blakman
09-08-20, 22:00
If theres humanotarian flights scheduled for later this month there will not be international flights. But if there isn't then there will be international flights. Its this simple guys.

Knowledge
09-08-20, 23:07
Blakman, forgive me for muddying the waters with this rhetorical question. Do you accept the possibility that humanitarian flights could be canceled and replaced by daily commercial service?


If theres humanotarian flights scheduled for later this month there will not be international flights. But if there isn't then there will be international flights. Its this simple guys.

JjBee62
09-08-20, 23:26
I agree with you on webcam models especially with chaturbate. I have known 3 Facebook girls that have tried this only to quit in a very short time. I'm sure there are some super models out there that make a living doing this but very very few do. Alot of times these girls can't even cover their transportation costs..I guess I need to be more specific.

It's obvious some of you consider anyone who has ever broadcast on a webcam as a webcam model. In which case I'm a webcam model. Can we apply the same standard and say anyone who has taken a nude video of themselves is also a pornstar?

Go on any webcam site and you'll find pages full of girls with 5 or less viewers. Some of them will last a week or two, most disappear after a few days. If you're considering them webcam models, then absolutely, they're available. Or you can just go on Facebook, pick any girl and you've got about a 30% chance they're a webcam model, using the definition that they went on webcam at least once. You can get about the same percentage in the casas.

A webcam model, by my definition is someone who is either currently supporting herself solely through webcam earnings, or who has committed to solely working as a webcam model with the intention of supporting herself in that way. Once they reach the point where they are supporting themselves they will consistently have 60-100 viewers and will consistently receive 1000+ tokens per broadcast. That was always the threshold I used for models. That puts them at $250 per week. Below that level, a bad day, or missing a few days would usually cause the girl to get discouraged and quit.

Getting discouraged and giving up is always a big problem because it usually takes 6-8 weeks to get to that 1000 token level. It takes another 4-6 weeks to get to the 2000 tokens per show level. Most of the webcam models who are supporting themselves, at least that I know, pull between 2000-4000 tokens per show. 1000 tokens is $50 to the account. How much the model receives depends upon her agreement with the studio.

In addition, successful webcam models (those who can depend on at least 4000 tokens per show) will usually sell content, either on the camsite, or on sites such as fancentro or Onlyfans. There's also offline tips and fanclub memberships bringing in money. A successful Colombian webcam model can easily bring in $100 k annually. I know several who are doing it. These aren't the top models, just the ones who are doing well. Top models are pulling $40 k and up per month.

If you're regularly pulling dates with webcam models who are pulling in 4 k+ tokens per show, I'm going to ask for proof. I'm going to be skeptical if you tell me you're succeeding with girls earning 2-4 k tokens per show.

However, if you're going to call any girl who goes on webcam a webcam model, there's probably not a monger in Medellin who hasn't nailed half a dozen or more. I'm pretty sure I've bedded at least 20.

For reference, the reason I went to Medellin and stayed a year was to work with webcam studios. I shared an apartment with a successful webcam model, even briefly worked with a few top models.

Black Page
09-08-20, 23:28
What does Singapore have to do with this? Mexico is already open for US.You really do not understand? What is difficult here?

Singapore is an example, real example from real world, that "having international flights connecting an airport is a necessary condition for foreigners to reach that country, but it is largely not sufficient.
The second necessary condition is that government regulations do allow foreigners to enter.".

If I don't provide an example, someone may not understand what is a necessary condition vs. A sufficient condition, because it's logic terminology.

So, one thing is having CTG conneected to MIA, another that regular tourist people from MIA is allowed to fly to CTG. See the examples of categories who are allowed to travel to SIN: really few ones. Yet, SIN is connected to Europe with daily flights.

Black Page
09-08-20, 23:32
Hopefully your dead wrong that Colombia will be shutdown until next year to visitors. I am happy to pay those $10. It was a way to trigger the Fate. I and othersr have a trip planned to Taiwan this Dec, nobody thinks it will be allowed, still let me dream I will fly there before Xmas, and at the same time pay you $10 because you fly to Colombia. I never hoped to lose a bet more than this time.

Blakman
09-09-20, 00:10
Humanitarian flights are scheduled in advance. Like 2 to 3 weeks. They are only scheduled based on international flights not being allowed. They are scheduled beginning and near the end of each month.


Blakman, forgive me for muddying the waters with this rhetorical question. Do you accept the possibility that humanitarian flights could be canceled and replaced by daily commercial service?.

Zeos1
09-09-20, 01:23
I'm not criticizing the woman in Las Vegas that earns 800. I'm criticizing the woman in Las Vegas that charges 1600 For service that cost 800.

This post is for all the New forum members: All those in Colombia advise you not to go to the club Gustos. Where girls are charging Between 750,000 to 1,121,703. 00 pesos for service you can get for 300,000. Just the other day my friend got 1 of the hottest girls on seeking 3 hours for 300,000 +50,000 tip. And if you are not so picky choosy with the girls you can probably get a lower price at a brothel. If you're concerned about wages being too low than pay her more out of Righteousness, or kindness and generosity. Ask her to come back so she can double her wages. But don't get scammed. Think about this girl Pinky, She got she got 250000 and if that isn't enough she keeps coming back for more.

A scam is a scam no matter All the technicalities the scammer Has. The day all the girls start charging 1,000,000 is the day all the sexual tourist in the city Will choose another destination. This forum would not have 39,000 post and a lively community. So good luck with scaring your customers away. Think about New York pay $1500 per hour or take the bus into Canada Where you can pay 210 per hour.There's probably like 3 losers in all New York paying 1500 everyone else smarter than to let people scam them selves.

The standard rate as established by the market is 1 of the most important factors in the scientific process of negotiating. You can go above the standard or below the standard depending on the situation. But the standard exists and is very real, That being said a standard can subjectively understood as incorrect or uninformed.I really agree with most of what you say here. The only difference really is that I don't think the girl that gets a lot more in Gustos is necessarily a scammer. I agree that it's not the average rate for Medellin, but it may be the normal rate for that club (more or less) and if everyone is happy. No harm no foul. As for newbies, etc, sure it is great if they can read this forum and know the options. Sometimes the same chica will work in a casa during the day for 20 or 25 K per 40 minutes (her cut), will work Parque Lleras or Facebook or whatever for 200 K per session. And will then go up to Gustos and try for the 7-800 k.

I would always steer people away from Gustos by explaining all of that. But, its there as a tourist trap, or whatever, and the gal I know that works it occasionally is an opportunist, yes, but also basically honest and not what I would call a scammer (as far as I know) She will ask for the going rate wherever she is.

And interesting that you mention Canada. I'm looking in To. Lots. Rates range a lot from around the $200 per hour as you say, on the low end, but well in the high hundreds and sometimes over $1000 for "high end" girls. The agency rates are usually in the $200-$400 per hour range and there are lots of great ladies to choose from. Between agencies, independents, and massage places there are a few thousand on any given day.

Kafka
09-09-20, 01:29
My regular charges me $140. But being in Cartegena is more fun. Medellin overwhelmed me.


Humanitarian flights are scheduled in advance. Like 2 to 3 weeks. They are only scheduled based on international flights not being allowed. They are scheduled beginning and near the end of each month..X.

Nounce
09-09-20, 01:37
I'm not criticizing the woman in Las Vegas that earns 800. I'm criticizing the woman in Las Vegas that charges 1600 For service that cost 800.

This post is for all the New forum members: All those in Colombia advise you not to go to the club Gustos. Where girls are charging Between 750,000 to 1,121,703. 00 pesos for service you can get for 300,000. Just the other day my friend got 1 of the hottest girls on seeking 3 hours for 300,000 +50,000 tip. And if you are not so picky choosy with the girls you can probably get a lower price at a brothel. If you're concerned about wages being too low than pay her more out of Righteousness, or kindness and generosity. Ask her to come back so she can double her wages. But don't get scammed. Think about this girl Pinky, She got she got 250000 and if that isn't enough she keeps coming back for more.

A scam is a scam no matter All the technicalities the scammer Has. The day all the girls start charging 1,000,000 is the day all the sexual tourist in the city Will choose another destination. This forum would not have 39,000 post and a lively community. So good luck with scaring your customers away. Think about New York pay $1500 per hour or take the bus into Canada Where you can pay 210 per hour.There's probably like 3 losers in all New York paying 1500 everyone else smarter than to let people scam them selves.

The standard rate as established by the market is 1 of the most important factors in the scientific process of negotiating. You can go above the standard or below the standard depending on the situation. But the standard exists and is very real, That being said a standard can subjectively understood as incorrect or uninformed.The girls are doing the same thing most mongers do for opposite reason. Mongers go to Medellin to spend less and girls go to Gustos to get more. IMO, if the girls are scammers, so are the mongers. Based on this, can I say Gustos is a win win for both?

One other post mentioned Gustos mongers are suckers. It has been observed here before, aren't all mongers who spend money in Parque Lleras or renting apartment in El Poblado suckers too. A beer in a club or bar only cost around 5 mils in El Centro so everyone who pay twice that can be considered a sucker.

Knowledge
09-09-20, 02:20
Blakman,

Yes, I agree that those are the details of humanitarian flight scheduling, but that is not what I asked. My question was whether you accept the possibility that those flights, however and whenever they are scheduled, are subject to change, cancellation, and replacement by normal commercial service. Rather than just restate the question I will explain it further. Since no date to resume international commercial flights has been officially announced or confirmed, can you accept the possibility that the service could resume on a date that precedes or coincides with the date of a previously scheduled humanitarian flight? In other words, the existence of a scheduled humanitarian flight does not exclude the possibility of international service resuming.


Humanitarian flights are scheduled in advance. Like 2 to 3 weeks. They are only scheduled based on international flights not being allowed. They are scheduled beginning and near the end of each month.

MMHikeus
09-09-20, 02:31
I'm not criticizing the woman in Las Vegas that earns 800. I'm criticizing the woman in Las Vegas that charges 1600 For service that cost 800.

This post is for all the New forum members: All those in Colombia advise you not to go to the club Gustos. Where girls are charging Between 750,000 to 1,121,703. 00 pesos for service you can get for 300,000. Just the other day my friend got 1 of the hottest girls on seeking 3 hours for 300,000 +50,000 tip. And if you are not so picky choosy with the girls you can probably get a lower price at a brothel. If you're concerned about wages being too low than pay her more out of Righteousness, or kindness and generosity. Ask her to come back so she can double her wages. But don't get scammed. Think about this girl Pinky, She got she got 250000 and if that isn't enough she keeps coming back for more..The price of an item depends on where it is bought. The same beer sells for different prices in different locations such as corner store, supermarket, restaurant, bar, sport stadium. The same girl might charge different prices in different locations. Similarly, the same guy may pay different prices in different locations. Just because I pay usd 50 per night in Medellin doesn't mean I get to pay it in New York City. It is probably more like usd 4000.

Everyone has a financial calculation, both the buyer and seller. As long as they are happy with what they are paying or charging, that is their right price. For example, if I have to get laid one time, for an hour, I would just pay the $500 per hour where I live and be done with it. Medellin in that case is not a better deal, as the flight and hotel costs add up to $1000 or more, plus time off from work. If it's a week or longer trip, Medellin is a great value for me. Door to door, I have spent about $3000 for the trip, including buying dinner at good places for the girls, paying for hair and nails, or buying them outfits etc. Where I am, I could end up spending more than that for an overnight. The stuff I buy them is mostly want I volunteer to buy, not them asking for it.

So everyone's situation and price point is different. There is no right answer. If you can afford it and it is convenient for you, that is your right price. There is no, one size fits all. I have friends that blow usd 1000 in Fase Dos. These are the same guys that spend 20 grand in one night partying in the US. It's not for me, and I can afford it, they can afford it and they spend it.

JjBee62
09-09-20, 10:13
I really agree with most of what you say here. The only difference really is that I don't think the girl that gets a lot more in Gustos is necessarily a scammer. I agree that it's not the average rate for Medellin, but it may be the normal rate for that club (more or less) and if everyone is happy. No harm no foul. As for newbies, etc, sure it is great if they can read this forum and know the options. Sometimes the same chica will work in a casa during the day for 20 or 25 K per 40 minutes (her cut), will work Parque Lleras or Facebook or whatever for 200 K per session. And will then go up to Gustos and try for the 7-800 k.

I would always steer people away from Gustos by explaining all of that. But, its there as a tourist trap, or whatever, and the gal I know that works it occasionally is an opportunist, yes, but also basically honest and not what I would call a scammer (as far as I know) She will ask for the going rate wherever she is.

And interesting that you mention Canada. I'm looking in To. Lots. Rates range a lot from around the $200 per hour as you say, on the low end, but well in the high hundreds and sometimes over $1000 for "high end" girls. The agency rates are usually in the $200-$400 per hour range and there are lots of great ladies to choose from. Between agencies, independents, and massage places there are a few thousand on any given day.Whether a girl asks for 250 k or $2500, in what way is that a scam? All she's done is thrown out a price. It might be a ridiculous price, but it doesn't cost you anything.

If some guy accepts her price, as long as she provides the agreed service, it's not a scam. He overpaid, but he got what he paid for.

In what universe is every provider of every service obligated to limit their rates to those chosen by the consumer? Someone please give me directions because I want to insist that the price for all new cars is $1000.

The local market rate doesn't preclude some girls from charging more, or less. There are guys getting TLN for cab fare. Should we insist Slapshot pay each overnight girl 300 k because that's the local rate?

Blakman
09-09-20, 14:12
What's next? Accusation that I cannot handle the truth LOL. It's not that serious to right or wrong. Knowledge.


Blakman, forgive me for muddying the waters with this rhetorical question. Do you accept the possibility that humanitarian flights could be canceled and replaced by daily commercial service?.

Blakman
09-09-20, 14:17
Andrés Uribe, regional manager of IATA in Colombia, said today that the Colombian authorities would allow international travel from three cities: Cartagena, Cali, and Medellin. If this happens, Bogota would be left behind at the beginning. Uribe said that nothing is confirmed yet, so the shortlisted cities could change before 21 September.

Knowledge
09-09-20, 14:17
Hahaha, Blakman, isn't true that on several afternoons during the past 4 months you ventured into the Plaza Botero? I remind you that you are under oath.


What's next? Accusation that I cannot handle the truth LOL. It's not that serious to right or wrong. Knowledge..

Knowledge
09-09-20, 14:18
Good post this one, factual with attribution.


Andrs Uribe, regional manager of IATA in Colombia, said today that the Colombian authorities would allow international travel from three cities: Cartagena, Cali, and Medellin. If this happens, Bogota would be left behind at the beginning. Uribe said that nothing is confirmed yet, so the shortlisted cities could change before 21 September.

The Tall Man
09-09-20, 16:44
I guess I need to be more specific.

It's obvious some of you consider anyone who has ever broadcast on a webcam as a webcam model. In which case I'm a webcam model. Can we apply the same standard and say anyone who has taken a nude video of themselves is also a pornstar?

Go on any webcam site and you'll find pages full of girls with 5 or less viewers. Some of them will last a week or two, most disappear after a few days. If you're considering them webcam models, then absolutely, they're available. Or you can just go on Facebook, pick any girl and you've got about a 30% chance they're a webcam model, using the definition that they went on webcam at least once. You can get about the same percentage in the casas.

A webcam model, by my definition is someone who is either currently supporting herself solely through webcam earnings, or who has committed to solely working as a webcam model with the intention of supporting herself in that way. Once they reach the point where they are supporting themselves they will consistently have 60-100 viewers and will consistently receive 1000+ tokens per broadcast. That was always the threshold I used for models. That puts them at $250 per week. Below that level, a bad day, or missing a few days would usually cause the girl to get discouraged and quit...Some of you buy into all this shit, be they webcam models or a glue sniffer from centro and anything in between they are all putas, my gawd people place these webcam models who masturbate in front of a camera for anyone to see and jack off with as a goddess.

And WTF needing to define what a true webcam model is, just fuck them in the ass as you pull their hair and yell "who's your daddy"! Hehehe.

Much love and respect to all but just please call it for what it is.

The Tall Man.

Blakman
09-09-20, 18:03
I entertain centro 4 times max and no longer than 45 minutes. I did.

Get a number from a nice body negra and had sex with her 4 times at my apartment. Also I did see a mileroticos girl that I encountered at my apartment surprisingly on the centro strip. But in no way will I say I am comfortable in centro. I didn't get to see the strip clubs. I confess I am interested in that just out of curiosity. I like the food and fruits as well. Any more questions Mr. Mason LOL.


Hahaha, Blakman, isn't true that on several afternoons during the past 4 months you ventured into the Plaza Botero? I remind you that you are under oath..

Member #4665
09-09-20, 20:04
Okay guys I read through all your claim statements arguments and accusations Concerning the "not a scam" situation.

As a reply going to pull out this here guitar and strum a little song for you all.

I'm going to strum hard but my elbow hurts from last night's masturbation session.

"Michelle my bell these are words that go together well. My Michelle. I love you I love you I love you. I want to hold your hand.I hope you understand."

Bravo. Thanks for the applause next time I will play rocky raccoon.

Lugnut
09-09-20, 21:39
I guess I need to be more specific.You have a very exclusive perspective of things. Camgirls are bangable.

NeilGeorge
09-09-20, 21:39
Wondering if gringos are going to try to be selling their apartments now, that they have realized they can't use them? Would prices be lower now? May be a buying opportunity.

Hexzor
09-09-20, 22:19
A lot of what you said makes sense, and I can see why it would be difficult. I don't understand the webcam industry very well, and was hoping it was more similar to Phils.


I guess it's been a few months since we've had this conversation.

The short answer is"No."

Yes, it is possible, but mostly you are going to be wasting your time and your money.

A Colombian webcam model who is supporting herself is taking home $500-$1000 per week or more. If she's successful, double that. Typically she's working 20-40 hours. That puts her income at 8-16 times minimum wage, up to 30 times minimum wage if she's successful. Why would she choose to spend an hour having sex with a complete stranger for the same amount as she makes during an hour on webcam?

There are other obstacles.

If she's working for a studio, and almost all of them are, she probably has a monitor. A monitor is someone who works for the studio who helps her. The monitor also reads all the chat, including PMs and tip notes. In many cases it's the monitor who is answering the PMs. You'll be trying to set up a date with a girl by talking to a guy whose job is to keep the girl from setting up dates.

Hexzor
09-09-20, 22:30
I'm probably mostly looking at the girls in the middle of this range. The ones I constantly see on the cam sites charging $1.49 a minute for private, but are not all that busy by any mean. I don't think they're making all that much money, but they've stuck around long enough that they must be making enough to either live on, or supplement their normal job. I was hoping this type of girl would be open to meeting clients in person.


I guess I need to be more specific.

It's obvious some of you consider anyone who has ever broadcast on a webcam as a webcam model. In which case I'm a webcam model. Can we apply the same standard and say anyone who has taken a nude video of themselves is also a pornstar?

Go on any webcam site and you'll find pages full of girls with 5 or less viewers. Some of them will last a week or two, most disappear after a few days. If you're considering them webcam models, then absolutely, they're available. Or you can just go on Facebook, pick any girl and you've got about a 30% chance they're a webcam model, using the definition that they went on webcam at least once. You can get about the same percentage in the casas.

A webcam model, by my definition is someone who is either currently supporting herself solely through webcam earnings, or who has committed to solely working as a webcam model with the intention of supporting herself in that way. Once they reach the point where they are supporting themselves they will consistently have 60-100 viewers and will consistently receive 1000+ tokens per broadcast. That was always the threshold I used for models. That puts them at $250 per week. Below that level, a bad day, or missing a few days would usually cause the girl to get discouraged and quit..

Mojo Bandit
09-10-20, 00:02
I guess I need to be more specific.


That was always the threshold I used for models. That puts them at $250 per week. Below that level, a bad day, or missing a few days would usually cause the girl to get discouraged and quit.

Getting discouraged and giving up is always a big problem because it usually takes 6-8 weeks to get to that 1000 token level. It takes another 4-6 weeks to get to the 2000 tokens per show level. Most of the webcam models who are supporting themselves, at least that I know, pull between 2000-4000 tokens per show. 1000 tokens is $50 to the account. How much the model receives depends upon her agreement with the studio.
JjBee62 I am not arguing with your specifics about webcam models in general but I have been told that in some cases these girls do not work for themselves at all and barely see any money that comes in as tokens. I was told by a couple of chicas that I spent time with in Medellin that the street gang / criminal organization LOS Pachelly has warehouses that they have split into cubicles that they fix up to look like bedrooms and they basically allow homeless chicas to live their in exchange for working lso many hours a day on camera and then they give them some money for clothes and food for themselves and their baby since many are single mothers.

I had a cita with one chica in this situation but she did not want to go into too much detail about the situation, she just said that it had given her and her baby a place to live. I got learned more info because I was looking for a certain chica that I had talked to on FB but lost contact with her, I originally saw her profile on another chica's friend list so I just sent her a message on messenger to see if she was interested in citas with gringos. She replied positively and eventually the conversation went to her not being able to reply to my questions promptly because she was currently working being a webcam model, I wanted to see this for myself so I had her give me the info and pulled it up on the computer, through FB messenger I asked her make two thumbs up as she shook her titties so I could confirm that I was really talking to the same girl that was on camera.

What I did not do was actually send her a friend request and then by the time I was in Medellin and went to contact her I could not even find her profile, or the FB messenger conversation that we had. This girl was gorgeous for my taste and had a phenomenal body so I wanted to try to track her down. I only had the website and some screenshots that I had taken of her while watching her webcam. I ask the one webcam girl that I had a cita with if she recognized her and she did not. She said the gangs run probably at least a hundred of these chicas and they even have them catering to various regions in the world. For example the chica I had the cita with was called Greta something -in-german and she was exclusive to the German speaking regions. I never tracked down that webcam chica that I had talked to on FB.

IamLookin
09-10-20, 00:07
I can only tell you that quite a few FB girls that session for 150 k have tried chaturbate. Some do ok by Colombian standards like maybe make 100 to 150 k for the day. But what happens is that viewers tend to look for fresh talent and the girls wind up quitting due to lack of viewers. They wind up back in the FB scene or in parque lleras they can be found


I'm probably mostly looking at the girls in the middle of this range. The ones I constantly see on the cam sites charging $1.49 a minute for private, but are not all that busy by any mean. I don't think they're making all that much money, but they've stuck around long enough that they must be making enough to either live on, or supplement their normal job. I was hoping this type of girl would be open to meeting clients in person..

JjBee62
09-10-20, 00:28
Some of you buy into all this shit, be they webcam models or a glue sniffer from centro and anything in between they are all putas, my gawd people place these webcam models who masturbate in front of a camera for anyone to see and jack off with as a goddess.

And WTF needing to define what a true webcam model is, just fuck them in the ass as you pull their hair and yell "who's your daddy"! Hehehe.

Much love and respect to all but just please call it for what it is.

The Tall Man.The original question was should the guy invest time trying to hook up with webcam models. I answered that.

However, I then got the expected responses from guys who have been with girls who had been on webcam. At that point it's important, for the guy wondering if he should be trying to hook up with webcam models, to define the different levels of webcam modeling.

There are certain girls you can find on webcam, or elsewhere, who at one time were on webcam that are available to fuck. There are other girls on webcam, who might be available to fuck, but you'll waste a huge amount of time and money to find out. There are other girls on webcam who are not available to anyone for any price.

Now, I could just stick my head in the sand and ignore these facts and let the guy waste $20 k over the next 6 months trying to figure out how to get his favorite webcam model to fuck him, or I can tell him the truth and point him where he is guaranteed success for a lot less money.

I don't put webcam models on pedestals. I can and have sat down to lunch with models earning high 6 figures and talk about cats or the best place to eat in Illinois. I simply recognize the reality that webcam model does not automatically equal prepago.

However, since they are all putas, according to you, and you're in Medellin, I'll give you a challenge. I'll give you the name of a webcam model in Medellin. You can contact her either through her Twitter, or through her webcam on MyFreeCams. While she's quite a few years past 18, she's still attractive, in good shape and is a popular webcam model. All you have to do is convince her to have sex with you for money. If you succeed, with evidence, I'll happily send you $1,000. I'm going to ask 2 reputable members here to back me up on this. Villiany and Zeos, will you stand witness that I've agreed to pay The Tall Man $1000 if he completes my challenge?

You can find her on MyFreeCams as Florabella or on Twitter as FloraCamGirl.

Contrary to the garbage too many people want to spread, not every woman in Colombia is a puta. Not every webcam model, waitress or store clerk. Just like every other country in the world, some women are selling pussy and some aren't. And unless you realize that, you're going to waste a lot of time and money, not to mention put yourself in many difficult and potentially dangerous situations.

JjBee62
09-10-20, 00:37
You have a very exclusive perspective of things. Camgirls are bangable.I'll make you the same challenge I made TTM. Here's your chance to prove your claim and make an easy $1000. You'll find all the necessary information in my reply to him.

Some camgirls are bangable. Some waitresses are bangable. Some store clerks are bangable. Some guys wives are bangable.

Some does not equal all.

Tell you what, roll around to Juan Bustos' office. A few quick searches will provide you with the address. Ask to see Juan. If he's not around, ask to talk to his cousin Oscar. If you can't talk to Oscar, ask to talk to Mateo. Whichever one you get in front of, ask them which of their models are available for sex and what the going rate is. The reply should be quite educational.

AmoMedellin
09-10-20, 00:38
These girl do not make such money, it's typical to brag to make the " profession" more glamourous!

CallMeBill
09-10-20, 00:39
Anybody else see the news that international travel to resume on 9/21 for selected countries? Can't copy and paste the article it is on simplyfly.

SlapShot10
09-10-20, 00:41
Blakman, forgive me for muddying the waters with this rhetorical question. Do you accept the possibility that humanitarian flights could be canceled and replaced by daily commercial service?No.


Blakman,

Yes, I agree that those are the details of humanitarian flight scheduling, but that is not what I asked. My question was whether you accept the possibility that those flights, however and whenever they are scheduled, are subject to change, cancellation, and replacement by normal commercial service. Rather than just restate the question I will explain it further. Since no date to resume international commercial flights has been officially announced or confirmed, can you accept the possibility that the service could resume on a date that precedes or coincides with the date of a previously scheduled humanitarian flight? In other words, the existence of a scheduled humanitarian flight does not exclude the possibility of international service resuming.No.

Blakman refuses to understand the purpose of humanitarian flights vs commercial / tourism flights. Thus, he is stuck on only focusing on the SCHEDULE of future humanitarian flights. Some one needs to log these flights, so when the first commercial flight happens, we can show him there was, indeed, a minimum of one humanitarian flight cancelled. The humanitarian flights are the sole responsibility of a foreign government, and do not adhere to the same regulations. Avianca is not going to give one shit about Spirit's humanitarian flight, when they get approval to open commercial travel. Similarly, the powers that be will not be choosing a day to open international travel based on a single country's humanitarian flight schedule. I, for one, have a splitting headache from banging my face on my keyboard, regarding this topic.

Anyway, fresh off the amazing trio that cost less than 250k for Pinky & SG + Ubers (ok, in fairness, let's do a legit tally: bottle of wine, 3 Smirnoff Ice, two bikinis at maybe 120k total, 3 steaks, potatoes... Should I include my bluetooth speaker? Spotify Premium? Daily rent?) Ok so you get the point. I talked to my buddy in Las Vegas, who was in a hotel on the strip. Labor Day Weekend. He tells me a hilarious story about a fight with his wife, so he takes off. He's blacked out by 5p. He awakes at 1 a and decides to cruise the casino. He finds a young lady on the clock, and they're off. He ends up paying her via Venmo, for some terribly stupid reason (probably because he didn't have enough cash on him and didn't want to go back downstairs). He is asking me how to 1) delete the receipt on his account, and 2) delete the message she left on his Venmo page, "hey hun couldn't get back up to the room wtf here's my number xxxxxxxxx" So, the best part, for me, is that he says he paid $500 USD. One of my other buddies looks up the phone number, and sends pics from some ad. This chick's ad says something like, "Hot new Latina in town" and has some photos. Holy fuck. If this chick was working in Conejitos, I would go take a fake piss while she was on stage. I've seen some photos of similar girls, on this forum, but the price for those girls is maybe $10 USD.

In short, it just made me giggle inside and have one of those Tall Man moments. Happy to be alive in Medellin in 2020.

Pinky is back home for a few days to surprise her family. Coin Slot randomly messaged me to ask when we were going to see each other. I said I don't know and I think she gave up. I asked 6p and didn't get a response. I just realized that I've been here over 6 months. I'm wondering how long it took the guys that live here full-time to really comprehend they are living in an entirely different world. I got mad the other night because a beer was 9k. I almost had to laugh at myself, after. It would be fun to sit down one night and compare what you could buy in Medellin vs USA. I also didn't realize September was the month of love & friendship, here, and that Sep 19 is Valentine's Day. Just a shout for those that are here and may not have known, like me.

Anyone know where I could buy a small BBQ? I'm thinking something in between a George Foreman and a full-size stand-alone charcoal grille.

Cheers.

JjBee62
09-10-20, 00:43
I'm probably mostly looking at the girls in the middle of this range. The ones I constantly see on the cam sites charging $1.49 a minute for private, but are not all that busy by any mean. I don't think they're making all that much money, but they've stuck around long enough that they must be making enough to either live on, or supplement their normal job. I was hoping this type of girl would be open to meeting clients in person.All I can tell you is "maybe. " But I can guarantee you'll spend a lot of minutes at $1. 49 per minute, finding out if that maybe can be turned to a "yes. ".

Go to Chaturbate. Check out i_am_melisa.

She's a long time working girl who is now trying to make it on webcam. She'll be available.

Vitrea
09-10-20, 00:56
https://www.migracioncolombia.gov.co/noticias/fronteras-de-colombia-permaneceran-cerradas-hasta-el-proximo-01-de-octubre

Knowledge
09-10-20, 01:39
Nicely done, finally we see a meaningful link posted on this subject. This after dozens or more QAnon style nonsense links. Better late than never.


https://www.migracioncolombia.gov.co/noticias/fronteras-de-colombia-permaneceran-cerradas-hasta-el-proximo-01-de-octubre

IamLookin
09-10-20, 02:22
This short notice is in regards to crossings by land, sea or river. There is no mention of air travel


https://www.migracioncolombia.gov.co/noticias/fronteras-de-colombia-permaneceran-cerradas-hasta-el-proximo-01-de-octubre.

Luminus
09-10-20, 02:58
Just my two cents and experiences with webcam girls. I'll start off that I am verified as a broadcaster on Chaturbate and know the ins and out quite well. I have a lot of friends (not Colombian) on there that I talk to both on and off the site, not trying to brag just trying to state credibility.

A lot of what has been said here is true regarding weather or not a cam girl will accept dates. Some will most won't. Any of the popular girls are not going to accept a date unless you drop huge money and then it's not guaranteed. If your looking to date a girl that is on cam, look for a girl that has less then 10 viewers regularly, sweet talk them, don't need to tip a lot and tell them you'd like to take them on a date when you get to Medellin. Either offer your whatsapp or ask for hers, sometimes she'll try and sell it to you, when that happens I decline and leave but sometimes you'll get the number.

It's worked for me about 60% and that's with tipping no more than 2 or 3 dollars. Hell I've even become friends with two of them and was talking about arepa recipes with one on whatsapp just before writing this. So I guess what I'm saying is if you see a cam girl that you like start talking in PM and ask her number, simple as that.

I checked out i_am_mellisa as per JjBee62 and as of right now she has been working for 4. 8 hours, has 5 viewers and is playing on her phone. Don't know how many tokens she's made but like JjBee62 said, she's probably available.

Surfer500
09-10-20, 03:49
No.


Anyone know where I could buy a small BBQ? I'm thinking something in between a George Foreman and a full-size stand-alone charcoal grille.

Cheers.Homecenter should have what your looking for.

SJobs
09-10-20, 06:45
No. I just realized that I've been here over 6 months. I'm wondering how long it took the guys that live here full-time to really comprehend they are living in an entirely different world. I got mad the other night because a beer was 9k. I almost had to laugh at myself, after. It would be fun to sit down one night and compare what you could buy in Medellin vs USA. I also didn't realize September was the month of love & friendship, here, and that Sep 19 is Valentine's Day. Just a shout for those that are here and may not have known, like me.

Cheers.Bro,

Glad you are enjoying heaven, nice report as always. It took me about 4 months living in Medellin to come to terms with this unbelievable reality. Medellin is 70% cheaper than Brazil but 90% as good. When I was there, I spend about 1500 dollars a week on pussies, I still do that in California, but 1. 5 grand here only get me 4 different girls a week, all in their late 20's. In Medellin I normally have 3-4 different 18-year-olds a day almost every single day. Fuck, I regret coming back two weeks before this China virus lockdown.

There is an overwhelmingly large amount of evidence indicating that Cartagena will open for international flights on 9/21. I brought three tickets on 9/21.9/23, and 9/25 from Florida to Cartagena. I will fly to Florida on 9/20, check into a nice hotel, if I can't make it over after the 25th, I will buy one ticket a day until I get through. For those people who like to give up on things easily, this is what dedication is all about.

Hopefully soon I can start sharing details of barebacking three 18-year-olds while swimming in tussi land.

SJobs
09-10-20, 07:05
Anybody else see the news that international travel to resume on 9/21 for selected countries? Can't copy and paste the article it is on simplyfly.This has been confirmed by all major medias in Colombia, the mayor of Cartagena, and the official twitter account of Cartagena airport.

https://twitter.com/NoticiasRCN/status/1303133345358979072?s=20

https://www.dinero.com/pais/articulo/vuelos-internacionales-colombia-cartagena-recibira-vuelos-el-21-de-septiembre/299396

https://www.lafm.com.co/colombia/el-21-de-septiembre-se-reanudan-los-vuelos-internacionales-en-cartagena

https://www.bluradio.com/salud/se-reactivan-vuelos-internacionales-en-cartagena-desde-el-21-de-septiembre-alcalde-dau-crbe-264925-ie5134696

https://twitter.com/aeroctg?lang=en

The facts are overwhelming. I understand the education level of the BMs varies quite a bit, I can't expect everyone to have dual masters degrees from MIT or a phd, which is most of my employees in real life. Groundless assertion such as "you are not going to make it over until mid next year" is bound originate from less uneducated mongers who are not use to making rational decisions base on the best information available.

Pack your bags, Colombia will open very soon.

Osteoknot
09-10-20, 15:22
There is a wide range of cam girls, and they are not all putas. Without elevating them on a pedestal or denigrating them, most of them would not meet up with an online stranger to have sex. Contractually, they are prohibited from doing so by the Web site but of course that does not stop everyone. A few of them look at it as a direct way to hook up for money, but most of them look at it as a safe way to make money using their bodies without ever having to touch a smelly Gringo. You can't lump them all into a single category. To a cam girl, a puta is someone who sells sex on the streets for money, or to support a drug habit. In fact, one of my favorite cam girls does not do nudity. I have talked more than one cam girl into coming directly to my hotel at the end of her shift. Another active cam girl I have been Wassapping more than a year and she has made it clear we will never get together, but we have some great conversations and she sends some nice fotos. Kinda like life, there are all different shades and kinds of cam girls. I have fucked many and forgotten about the ones who did not want to proceed and moved onto the next. If the girl says she doesn't want to fuck, and you don't want only an on-line relationship, move on. There are so many to choose from. I recently stopped going online to look at cam girls because my list of new hook-ups has gotten too long to be manageable and realistic when I return to Medellin. I have never been "ghosted" by one of these girls yet, mainly because I believe by the time we agree to meet, it's past the point of doubt. But my Gringo acquaintances have all been ghosted or the girl meets and wants money but no sex. So, your selection process and criteria do matter.

Elvis 2008
09-10-20, 15:54
In addition, successful webcam models (those who can depend on at least 4000 tokens per show) will usually sell content, either on the camsite, or on sites such as fancentro or Onlyfans. There's also offline tips and fanclub memberships bringing in money. A successful Colombian webcam model can easily bring in $100 k annually. I know several who are doing it. These aren't the top models, just the ones who are doing well. Top models are pulling $40 k and up per month.

For reference, the reason I went to Medellin and stayed a year was to work with webcam studios. I shared an apartment with a successful webcam model, even briefly worked with a few top models.I am not trying to be contrary with you like I was with Corona, and I am sorry what happened to you with your health, but there is no way. Top end American hookers are not pulling in $100 k. Neither are dancers at the highest end clubs in the big cities. They used to, but no one is now. If there was that much money in webcams, these American women would be doing it.

This is the byline of my Vennie SB here in Mexico:

Miss Teen Venezuela World Star Model.

Miss Venezuela Caribbean international.

Modelo en la fashion week cartagena Colombia.

Actriz principal obra de teatro "PLAN b" - Venezuela.

Modelo e imagen de diversas marcas Rolex-World Golf Championships (Mexico), Nike (Chile), FOREVER21 (panama), Chilevision (Chile), CMB (consejo mundial de boxeo), Porshe (Panama), F1 (Gran premio de mexico 2017) entre muchas otras.

She also has 200,000 Instagram followers. I even offered to buy her more, and she refused. She only wants legit followers. She has an only fans page, and it has been a bust as most are. Why pay for photos or masturbation when you can download that and other porn so easily for free?

Honestly, I looked at the women on chaturbate and on free cams, and there were few if any in her class looks wise, and she has professionally acted before. When I mention things like webcams, and I heard there was all this money in Instagram, and I talk to hot women, they shoot it down.

They all have all told me the same thing. Whenever you see a hot women in a resort or expensive destination, and she does not have a job or show a guy, she has a sugar daddy paying for it. Time and again, I have been told the only real money for women is in fucking.

I read all about money in Instagram, and the women rolled their eyes at me. I am sure they would do likewise if I mentioned webcams.

Elvis 2008
09-10-20, 15:59
I do not buy it all that some women will masturbate on webcams and not take money for sex. Maybe they are fearful of doing so, but if they are doing that, the idea that morally they will not take money for sex is crazy. It may take some desperation, but if the money is right, and they feel safe, they will do it.

I cannot tell you how many "good girls" my sugar babies brought to my place once they told their friends told it was safe and they would get paid. If it is safe, they get paid, and they are not shamed for it, most women who are suffering financially will be down to fuck for $$$ let alone ones that are web cam models.

Kafka
09-10-20, 16:38
This is a big step town international travel to Colombia. Looks like late October is a safe bet.

SpiderRider
09-10-20, 17:18
I'd like the exact coordinates for New Life Spa / Sala. Its been years since I was there, perhaps they have moved since. Would like to investigate again. Also any other recommended Salas open right now. I have a few that I know well in centro and El Palo. But, possibly there are upgrades I don't currently know. Respond here or pm Thanks.

Husker Dude
09-10-20, 17:54
I'd like the exact coordinates for New Life Spa / Sala. Its been years since I was there, perhaps they have moved since. Would like to investigate again. Also any other recommended Salas open right now. I have a few that I know well in centro and El Palo. But, possibly there are upgrades I don't currently know. Respond here or pm Thanks.Heard from another site New Life is gone. Even the painter door is gone too.

SpiderRider
09-10-20, 18:23
Heard from another site New Life is gone. Even the painter door is gone too.Ah. The blue painted door?

Nounce
09-10-20, 20:19
Top end American hookers are not pulling in $100 kI think they do but it probably depends on the location. Many years ago when the engineering consulting rate was still in the $100 range. The hooker was about $300. Occasionally, I can see a huge pile of used towels in the incall hotel room. A towel is $300. Do the math and you can estimate the annual income. They also talked about how much they spent on hotel a year. This is not the top tier. The top tier was charging $600 and up in the best hotel. Think about it, if they are not confident of getting client, why would they spend $500 and more getting the room first? I help with occasional hirings in several countries for the companies I work with so I am somewhat familiar with the going rate, especially US. It is much higher now so I think girls (if you can find them) probably are charging more too.

Once I had a couple visiting me in US from oversea. They wanted to buy a US $25 K bag but the store wouldn't sell to them because they have not established a relationship with the brand / store. I remembered another friend who frequently negotiates with girls using gift like the name brand bag as part of the payment. He bought a lot of bags over the years so I called him up and my friend was able to buy the bag. This guy likes to date well known internet influencers. He spends a lot of time, sometimes like over one or two years, pursuing and negotiating. It was not easy. I never really know or ask how much he paid but I heard him joking about how a girl rejected his offer from time to time so I have some idea.

AdventureSeekr
09-10-20, 21:03
I am not trying to be contrary with you like I was with Corona, and I am sorry what happened to you with your health, but there is no way. Top end American hookers are not pulling in $100 k. Neither are dancers at the highest end clubs in the big cities. They used to, but no one is now. If there was that much money in webcams, these American women would be doing it.

I read all about money in Instagram, and the women rolled their eyes at me. I am sure they would do likewise if I mentioned webcams.Top end is DEFINITELY pulling in over 100 K with ease.

A friend of mine who I sleep / travel with sometimes has been stripping for about 6 months now. Not a high end club and NY based but not in the city. She makes $400-800 a night, every night. She works 4-5 nights a week. She has onlyfans and is honestly not very good at it, doesn't have professionally done content, doesn't update enough etc. She still makes $1. 5-2 K a month in subscriptions barely doing anything. The top end of OnlyFans are making 7 figures a month. A MONTH.

Paulie97
09-10-20, 21:20
I understand the education level of the BMs varies quite a bit, I can't expect everyone to have dual masters degrees from MIT or a phd, which is most of my employees in real life.I'll add that grandiosity isn't going to get you there any sooner either. LOL When the way is clear, the way will be clear and we'll all know about it. Just jerk off in the meantime and someone will be selling you some poontang soon enough.

Member #4665
09-11-20, 02:05
Are there any other apps in Colombia like seeking with hot Escort girls looking for Money?

Knowledge
09-11-20, 02:40
Oh, OK, I'm glad that's settled now.


This is a big step town international travel to Colombia. Looks like late October is a safe bet.

Knowledge
09-11-20, 02:42
I'm not sorry to be Debbie Downer but do you have even one link from a government source, preferably one who could authorize what you appear to believe has already been authorized? None are in your post.


This has been confirmed by all major medias in Colombia, the mayor of Cartagena, and the official twitter account of Cartagena airport.

https://twitter.com/NoticiasRCN/status/1303133345358979072?s=20

https://www.dinero.com/pais/articulo/vuelos-internacionales-colombia-cartagena-recibira-vuelos-el-21-de-septiembre/299396

https://www.lafm.com.co/colombia/el-21-de-septiembre-se-reanudan-los-vuelos-internacionales-en-cartagena

https://www.bluradio.com/salud/se-reactivan-vuelos-internacionales-en-cartagena-desde-el-21-de-septiembre-alcalde-dau-crbe-264925-ie5134696

https://twitter.com/aeroctg?lang=en.

Member #4665
09-11-20, 02:57
Have you seen the following WebCam model: chaturbate kamilablonde_ ? Is anyone smart enough to tell where her accent is from? Is that a so-called "bandeja paisa" From medellin?

WeKilledKenny
09-11-20, 04:45
Heard from another site New Life is gone. Even the painter door is gone too.Say it ain't so. New Life was like my go-to "Mac-Vs", the bread and butter of our Medellin hobby. What about Aiffe, Zandalay, Sexy Amigas? Because if they are all closed, we got no map after this shitty pandemic.

Elvis 2008
09-11-20, 06:36
Top end is DEFINITELY pulling in over 100 K with ease.

A friend of mine who I sleep / travel with sometimes has been stripping for about 6 months now. Not a high end club and NY based but not in the city. She makes $400-800 a night, every night. She works 4-5 nights a week.How can she be making then when the strip clubs in the last six months when were closed until the last month or two? Even with guys going back in, the guys using strip clubs to entertain clients, the very high rollers, are not entertaining like they were.


She has onlyfans and is honestly not very good at it, doesn't have professionally done content, doesn't update enough etc. She still makes $1. 5-2 K a month in subscriptions barely doing anything. The top end of OnlyFans are making 7 figures a month. A MONTH.I really have no personal knowledge of this, but I have women I trust calling bullshit on this.

Here is what I read about onlyfans:

Most accounts take home less than $145 per month (after commission). The modal revenue is $0. 00, and the next most common is $4.99.

Creators put hours into each post, and on top of that, they interact one-on-one, with fans who can message them at any time. To break even on an OnlyFans account, creators need to earn more per month than the cost of hours spent engaging. The median take-home revenue is $136 per month. If you value a creator's time at a $15 minimum wage, the median creator needs to be spending less than 9 hours per month on her OnlyFans to break even. This is less than 20 minutes a day.

Fans expect regular, prompt engagement, and many creators compare OnlyFans to running a business. It seems unlikely that you could satisfy all your fans demands in less time than it takes to make and eat breakfast.

Relative to effort, it looks like most accounts lose money. End of quote.

To me, it sure looks like smells like a multilevel marketing scheme where you have a very few people crushing it while most everyone else loses money or makes very little. I do not have a dog in this fight, but it sure smells like bullshit to me.

What does seem to piss me off is that the number of Instagram followers and fans only members a woman has does seem to inflate their egos and financial expectations. It is kind of a turnoff because when I am with the women I have had times that they care more about taking photos than enjoying themselves.

But thanks for the heads up AS, next time I am on a trip with someone who cares more about taking photos and getting likes than making me happy, I am taking her phone away and telling her, "Your IG followers did not pay for this trip. I did."

To me, telling women they can monetize their social media is kind of like telling men they can monetize their drinking beer.

Elvis 2008
09-11-20, 07:01
I think they do but it probably depends on the location. Many years ago when the engineering consulting rate was still in the $100 range. The hooker was about $300. Occasionally, I can see a huge pile of used towels in the incall hotel room. A towel is $300. Do the math and you can estimate the annual income. They also talked about how much they spent on hotel a year. This is not the top tier. The top tier was charging $600 and up in the best hotel. Think about it, if they are not confident of getting client, why would they spend $500 and more getting the room first?.Nounce,

I knew women making $250,000 a year as an escort 15 years ago. I even had hookers tell me who was making the most. Then the sugar baby thing happened, and the market was flooded with women willing to sell themselves. I took my offering price way down. Some of the best hookers kept their old clients and old rates, but there are not that many of those.

Usually, what happens is there is a new girl on the scene, and the guys flood to her, the flavor of the month. Then they give her up for a new flavor. I was friends with high flyer, and she was very nice looking and good in bed, but being a dependable hooker like with most of these women was not her strong suit. Guys gave up on due to her flaking. She put in a special reduced rate for a week and got no takers.

Yes, some try traveling to keep being the flavor of the month in a new locale. Still, they have to worry about the law enforcement scene, or give up cash to a local who schedules for them, or sometimes, the guys do not call. You are assuming these women paying the $500 for a hotel room do not lose money, and they often do.

The looks in the American escort market has way cooled off because there is not the money in it that there was. And I cannot believe that things are so rosy in Colombia in comparison to America. I had zero problem getting amazing women for $20 or even less per hour. Women in the USA want that kind of money just to have a coffee with you.

SJobs
09-11-20, 08:44
I am not trying to be contrary with you like I was with Corona, and I am sorry what happened to you with your health, but there is no way. Top end American hookers are not pulling in $100 k. Neither are dancers at the highest end clubs in the big cities. They used to, but no one is now. If there was that much money in webcams, these American women would be doing it.Wait, do we live in the same America? Or am I really living in a bubble as thick as they say? In the Silicon Valley, 100 k is considered below minimum wage. A typical Uber drive in the Bay Area can pull in 120 k a year, and with 120 k annual salary, you are literally considered living in poverty in San Francisco if you have to support a family (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/28/families-earning-117000-qualify-as-low-income-in-san-francisco.html). I pay people fresh out of school more than 100 k in the valley. In Colombia, a good phd with little to no experience will earn 35 to 40 k, with more experience they can easily earn up to 80-120 k, I know this because I hired them.

I don't think any American women will work as a cam model for 100 k a year, for 400 k a year, maybe, that's what a good Silicon Valley PhD makes. It make sense Colombian women will do it for 100 k a year, that's what a good Colombian PhD makes, proportionally, things add up.

SJobs
09-11-20, 10:45
I think they do but it probably depends on the location. Many years ago when the engineering consulting rate was still in the $100 range. The hooker was about $300. Occasionally, I can see a huge pile of used towels in the incall hotel room. A towel is $300. Do the math and you can estimate the annual income. They also talked about how much they spent on hotel a year. This is not the top tier. The top tier was charging $600 and up in the best hotel. Think about it, if they are not confident of getting client, why would they spend $500 and more getting the room first? I help with occasional hirings in several countries for the companies I work with so I am somewhat familiar with the going rate, especially US. It is much higher now so I think girls (if you can find them) probably are charging more too.

Once I had a couple visiting me in US from oversea. They wanted to buy a US $25 K bag but the store wouldn't sell to them because they have not established a relationship with the brand / store. I remembered another friend who frequently negotiates with girls using gift like the name brand bag as part of the payment. He bought a lot of bags over the years so I called him up and my friend was able to buy the bag. This guy likes to date well known internet influencers. He spends a lot of time, sometimes like over one or two years, pursuing and negotiating. It was not easy. I never really know or ask how much he paid but I heard him joking about how a girl rejected his offer from time to time so I have some idea.I know girls, 18-21, in SF who charge 800 dollars an hour and they are always fully booked. The most expensive hour I have ever had was a 1100 dollars threesome in the club globe in Zurich. I believe young and pretty girls in a developed country can easily pull in 500 k or more a year. It make sense, their most valuable capital is youth and energy; without intelligent planning, their youth will only last them to 23-24 the most. I will never pay 800 dollars an hour for a 21+ year old, well, unless she is Rihanna or Candice Swanepoel. For a 18-21 year-old, using the youth card, they only have 4 years to earn as much as they can; after they turn 22, they will need to supplement aging with intelligence. If a really smart 18-year-old in NYC or SF manage to pull in 500 k a year for 4 years, and manage it well, then I think it is totally fair. Sadly, most of them doesn't mange it well or don't know how to leverage their greatest asset.

Black Page
09-11-20, 10:47
I understand the education level of the BMs varies quite a bit, I can't expect everyone to have dual masters degrees from MIT or a phd, which is most of my employees in real life.You or your employees?

PolloNegro
09-11-20, 12:08
I understand the education level of the BMs varies quite a bit, I can't expect everyone to have dual masters degrees from MIT or a phd, which is most of my employees in real life. Groundless assertion such as "you are not going to make it over until mid next year" is bound originate from less uneducated mongers who are not use to making rational decisions base on the best information available. Anyways, I respect their existence nonetheless.

Pack your bags, Colombia will open very soon.Had I or a few others made this kind of statement, BM's would have laughed and clobbered me. This goes to show just how biased we are as a group of men. SJobs, you have no idea how wealthy some of the BMs are or the education level of each BMs. If you were so wealthy and self sufficient, why did you ever leave Medellin to begin with? Trust me, I have been here since March, and I have not lost a penny. I don't have to stay in a penthouse in Poblado or Laureles to feel comfortable, I most definitely do not work for anyone but myself. The loudest man in the room is usually the poorest and the weakest, and I speak from experience, not just internet foolishness. The borders will be open soon and you can over pay all of the 18 yrs old you want, but you do not have to dim the light of others to make your light shine! Pollo Negro is out!

Osteoknot
09-11-20, 15:06
I do not buy it all that some women will masturbate on webcams and not take money for sex. Maybe they are fearful of doing so, but if they are doing that, the idea that morally they will not take money for sex is crazy. It may take some desperation, but if the money is right, and they feel safe, they will do it.

I cannot tell you how many "good girls" my sugar babies brought to my place once they told their friends told it was safe and they would get paid. If it is safe, they get paid, and they are not shamed for it, most women who are suffering financially will be down to fuck for $$$ let alone ones that are web cam models.Your argument is that all women who masturbate on Webcams will have money for sex. First of all, without any regard to the psychology of the situation, that is a statistical improbability that 100% of all masturbating Web cam girls will have sex for money. I guarantee you I can find many who will not for any amount of money. To believe otherwise is to say you cannot understand the difference of a girl performing on-line with no personal contact to a male stranger, and a girl having sex with a stranger. Even the most basic understanding of human nature would not consider those two situations be experientially close for the girl. Carry on.

Just Incognito
09-11-20, 15:58
This has been confirmed by all major medias in Colombia, the mayor of Cartagena, and the official twitter account of Cartagena airport..I live near Colombia and currently working as an advisor to the Dutch Government on the air space opening policies for the Dutch Caribbean.

I am on the inside of the decision processes several governments are using to decide what is safe to open and who is going where.

I am not involved in any way with the thought processes or policies specific to Colombia--outside of the procedures for medical flights between Barranquilla and Curacao and Aruba that happened a couple of months ago--a few people from the ABCs were receiving care in Barranquilla and needed to be repatriated. Outside of that, I have no direct knowledge of Colombia's inside policy development. I am a demographer who has worked in developing public health policy in several nations. So, my thoughts come from studying and being involved with how several islands and nation-states are developing their flight restrictions and openings.

I understand that not hearing what you want may be disconcerting and uncomfortable to some, but that does not make my words less accurate, nor is it worthy of personal insults designed to fraudulently build oneself up by tearing others down.

Remember these posts and watch what happens.

The same people saying that its crazy to think Americans won't be allowed in very very soon are the same people who have been wrong month after month after month after month already about this. Some BMs here claimed they would be in MDE by June, July, August, September. And they were wrong each time. It's a trend. Others, like me, have been saying, 'no, its going to be a longer process than that' and we keep being proven correct. At some point, maybe people should accept that reality and start thinking more clearly? Some of us are just trying to help and keep it real and help manage expectations.

Unless you stop in another place outside the US that will be open to Colombia--and quarantine for 2 weeks there-you will not be allowed into Colombia from the US anytime soon. Even with that, you may need to quarantine in monitored quarantine in Colombia upon arrival with a US passport--that is currently being discussed as an option. The costs and logistics for that are somewhat complicated and will be at the tourists expense. You may also need to agree to install an app on your phones to be tracked and will be heavily fined and // or deported for non-compliance. Hotels may be required to track who comes in and out and when. Most Americans will have a greater problem with that than most non-Americans. Moreover, they don't want foreigners taking up the space in the hospitals if you get sick while there, and they can't send you back if you do test positive until you are cleared of the virus. You will likely also be required to have internationally accepted travel and medical insurance if / when you are allowed in.

My education and experience related to COVID-19, well, as was said with the grammatical skills of an obviously truly stable genius: "is bound originate from less uneducated mongers". Yes, I am less uneducated-which actually means more educated. So, thanks for he compliment. (Some of this discussion reminds me of when Trump says things that are incredibly stupid-but thinks he is being smart, while the whole world is face palming themselves and mocking him for exposing his own stupidity).

As of now, nobody from the US will be taking direct flights to Colombia with no restrictions or quarantines until 2021. And probably not early 2021. It is what it is. Yes, that could change. There is a solid chance of Canadians being allowed into Colombia fairly soon. There is far less spread in much of Canada than in the US. When the govt. Says 'international flights'. Remember: the US isn't the only international country! Uruguay has basically eradicated the virus. There may be a few flights from Uruguay allowed fairly soon. Its not going to be all countries at once. Its a few at a time, then wait and see how the numbers develop. This takes time.

Also, be aware, for a while, you will be required to fill out a health declaration, likely need a negative PCR test within 72 hours of departure. In the US-testing is a huge problem because.

A: testing is not as readily available in the US as most other countries.

And.

B: The US is having great difficulty getting results back to people fast enough.

For example: If you want to fly on a Thursday at 9 am, you will need to be tested (negative PCR test) no earlier than Monday at 9 am and have the negative test results in hand when you attempt to check into the flight.

How practical is that for most Americans right now?

When they say limited international flights: its from areas with extremely low virus transmission rates which are reviewed every 10-14 days, have only passengers with negative test results in hand from tests less than 72 hours old, with full international travel and medical insurance and possibly with the ability to provide sufficient proof you can financially provide for yourself if the air space is closed for several months and you can't be repatriated to your country of origin for an undetermined amount of time. All of these constraints will reduce demand for flights. There will be less flights, less flight capacity on each flight with stringent rules before during and after travel, all developed and opened to a few countries at a time. Again, its going to take time.

Right now, there are about 65 active cases of Covid-19 on Curacao. Curacao normally has direct flights to Bogota and flights through Panama to Medellin. Look at a map. Curacao is quite close to Colombia. With 65 cases on the island--Curacao is considered too risky for Colombia to open flights with. Many people living in Curacao are actually Colombians. Yet, they can't even open to each other anytime soon even for people who just want to visit their families and can stay in a family home without much public interaction-as opposed to a tourist in a hotel. Do you really think if 65 active cases in Curacao makes Curacao too risky to open to Colombia for at least another month, that the US is going to be opened up to Colombia really soon? Me neither.

I encourage everyone to be patient. Practice distancing, wearing masks, getting your friends and families to wear masks and stay home and avoid travel and gatherings. The more of us who do this -the faster the process goes.

Osteoknot
09-11-20, 15:58
Ah. The blue painted door?One of the funniest quips I can relate from Medellin was I was showing a Gringo around on his first trip there with New Life as our destination, on foot from Hotel Botero. We were trying to use GPS on his phone, but the tall buildings had us all twisted. Exasperated, we stopped in our tracks not knowing exactly where we were, and I told him, "If we could just find the Blue Door. " Then we unstuck our noses from our phones, looked up and we were standing right in front of the Blue Door, literally two feet away jajajajaja. We had a great time, both of us extended our sessions and had two girls each.

RudeBwoy100
09-11-20, 16:24
Heard from another site New Life is gone. Even the painter door is gone too.New Life is gone? Omfg. This coronavirus is going to destroy mongering in Colombia for me. I hope by the time Colombia re-opens and the virus goes away New Life, Hotel Botero etc gets re-opened as I was definitely a casa / strip club guy & not a guy who wanted chicas to come back to my hotel.

Bill1963
09-11-20, 17:36
Top end is DEFINITELY pulling in over 100 K with ease.

A friend of mine who I sleep / travel with sometimes has been stripping for about 6 months now. Not a high end club and NY based but not in the city. She makes $400-800 a night, every night. She works 4-5 nights a week. She has onlyfans and is honestly not very good at it, doesn't have professionally done content, doesn't update enough etc. She still makes $1. 5-2 K a month in subscriptions barely doing anything. The top end of OnlyFans are making 7 figures a month. A MONTH.Stripping where for 6 months.

From basically March to July ALL strip clubs where closed.

We were on lockdown.

Sure in the last 2 months some have been open.

I know of a few bimbos that suck dick in the club and make up to 1500 a night at times.

One of these girls I have gotten head in my car for 100 when she blows all the money in a few days on purses and shoes and needs groceries in a last minute panick.

Theses girls are stupid as fuck on a whole.

Can you name 5 "seven figure" only fans girls? LOL.

I know of a number of smoking girls that shut their only fans because they made like 300 a month.

We all hear about those 1 or 2 that clean up while most others starve.

Some instagram girls clean up.

But there is a million hot as fuck want to be's that don't get shit.

Yeah some have 1 million followers.

Yet still can't monetize it.

And there's 100,000's that have 100 K to 500 K followers that don't earn 10 cents from the insta account.

Unfortunately 99% will never monetize it, as there is almost as many girls trying to sell as horny guys buying.

Plus many men join onlyfans accounts to see one month only to not renew subscription.

This exploded during the lockdown as gov't paid people to stay home to watch TV.

Horny guys had no where to spend money but online.

Once everything opens up in 2021, this will mostly dry up as money will be spent on girls giving head and ball licking in person.

The only good thing about the few girls that are cleaning up is, they will spend all the money on frivolous things and will be broke when it drys up.

So who cares in the future about 1000 girls worldwide cleaning up.

This pandemic has done so much damage to the worldwide economy that millions of more girls will be sucking dicks in the near future.

Long term this pandemic will make pooning amazing, after governments default on all the debt they accumulated in the last 6 months and the problems because of this.

We are now on a speed up money printing and worldwide sovereign debt crisis, which is going to be so fucking ugly, your head will spin and dudes won't be worrying about onlyfans and strippers, they will be worrying about buying food.

The next crisis the governments won't be able to bail the populace out.

Get ready for some exciting times over the next 10 years.

SlapShot10
09-11-20, 17:37
Heard from another site New Life is gone. Even the painter door is gone too.The Centro Rat Pack will know better than I, but I would tend to think this is more of a guess, based on the fucking outer door being shut, and not being able to see the inner door. One is brown, the other is blue. I hope it's not true, and that's my theory. If it is true, that building isn't going to turn into a Frisby, so likely some one else (or the same people) will get it back up and running, new name or not.




Hopefully soon I can start sharing details of barebacking three 18-year-olds while swimming in tussi land.Sounds magical. I'm listening to the fellas putting the final day of work in on my new jacuzzi, as I type this. I'll be targeting a trio party as soon as Pinky returns.

Have you ever looked into buying a place, down here? I've got my eye on one, and I'm wondering if I'm jumping the gun, or if I should just go with my gut.

Quagmire1974
09-11-20, 17:42
Heard from another site New Life is gone. Even the painter door is gone too.I've got an expat buddy who lives full time in Medellin. This is what he told me yesterday (Thursday):

"I was there Tuesday and Wednesday the door is still blue, only difference you pay ahead now and the girls each have their own room, when they do the line up they come down the stairs no more back room they have to wear a mask, they don't shake hands. But I will say I get treated pretty good, maybe because I think I'm their only customer, very slow and they are much higher than the others."

SJobs
09-11-20, 19:27
I'm not sorry to be Debbie Downer but do you have even one link from a government source, preferably one who could authorize what you appear to believe has already been authorized? None are in your post.I don't know if the Colombian people consider the mayor of Cartagena a legit government official or not, in the US, the mayor of a major city is certainly considered as a government official. One of the link I posted have him saying during a news interview: "Cartagena will be the first city open for international flight on 9/21". Furthermore, although the Cartagena airport's official twitter account is not as authoritative as the statement from Duque that I posted a few weeks ago, but it is certainly more credible than a random incognito person making educated assertions.

Anyway, I'm not arguing for absolute certainty here, but the evidence is overwhelming. Like I said before, If my 9/21 Cartagena flight gets cancel, I will check into a hotel in FLL, buy one ticket a day until I get through. The chances of me making it over in late September or early October is very high, as indicated by the best available data.

MarquisdeSade1
09-11-20, 19:32
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SJobs
09-11-20, 19:34
You or your employees?Most of the people I work with, myself included, holds at least two advance degrees, that's master degree or above, from name brand universities such as Cambridge, MIT, Stanford. Etc. Anyways, I really don't want to turn this board into a place for university rivalry, I have enough of that in real life. This will be the last post from me on this issue. Sorry guys that I even started this topic.

SJobs
09-11-20, 19:39
Sounds magical. I'm listening to the fellas putting the final day of work in on my new jacuzzi, as I type this. I'll be targeting a trio party as soon as Pinky returns.

Have you ever looked into buying a place, down here? I've got my eye on one, and I'm wondering if I'm jumping the gun, or if I should just go with my gut.I'm absolutely thinking about buying a penthouse in Provenza, the main concern for me is long term security. I don't want to have a permanent place in Medellin where all the girls can definitively find me. Every year, I will have to retire a good amount of 21 year-olds who turn 22, if they knew where I permanently live, then it create a whole host of issues. What's your thought on that?

Member #4665
09-11-20, 19:58
Certain news articles suggest the Colombian system is making an effort to reopen all industries. The government will not help businesses Nor individuals with their losses (In a significant way) therefore industries And everyone else must reopen as soon as possible And get back to work to avoid further losses. So international travel will probably open and soon at least with fewer restrictions in place. And When international travel opens in Colombia there will still be restrictions from other countries.

Member #4665
09-11-20, 20:13
Its a little tricky following your post are you drinking? LOL.

Quick story, several years ago, I agree to fuk a super hot 18 yo spinner BBFS for dos mil pesos in Tijuana 2 x what I typically would ever agree to.

Long story short I fuck her like a porn star, and fill her with my salsa, I pull out 2 1000 mil notes and hand her them before we leave the room and she hands one back to me and gives me a big kiss LOL.

Now that's what I call that a great session LOL.I'm just honestly asking why you are laughing out loud? Only because I don't understand. A lot of girls are not only beautiful but also have smart business skills. The girls can also be Generous. Generosity, business acumen, manners All these personality traits make a woman more attractive and desirable. Sometimes women value trustworthy repeat customers. At the end of the day being honest can put more money in your pocket in the long run than having a hot behind. Of course, this does not apply to all customers and all business scenarios. Seriously dude! This type of business is not about putting a few extra dollar bills in your pocket, it's about building trust and business relationships that will put money in your pocket for many years to come. Also you make a lot of friends on the way which will make your life brighter and they can even help you out sometimes.

This is a fact, if the conditions are right, that a woman will return money if you overpay. I would not ever spent time with the swindler even if she was a 12 out of 10.

Member #4665
09-11-20, 20:26
I'm absolutely thinking about buying a penthouse in Provenza, the main concern for me is long term security. I don't want to have a permanent place in Medellin where all the girls can definitively find me. Every year, I will have to retire a good amount of 21 year-olds who turn 22, if they knew where I permanently live, then it create a whole host of issues. What's your thought on that?Always when you say goodbye to girlfriend or lover. Say goodbye as friends and make sure she is happy. At least the most possible.

Gringo Trooper
09-11-20, 21:16
I'm absolutely thinking about buying a penthouse in Provenza, the main concern for me is long term security. I don't want to have a permanent place in Medellin where all the girls can definitively find me. Every year, I will have to retire a good amount of 21 year-olds who turn 22, if they knew where I permanently live, then it create a whole host of issues. What's your thought on that?A permanent place in MDE would be epic.

If it were me, I would buy a super nice pad, and enjoy it for myself. And maybe a few serious girlfriends to have over.

However, I would just bring the random girls that I pick up short time (for the night / session) to a different location.

Such as a nice hotel that's located close to or far from the actually property that you own (depending on your preference).

Some of these chicas are untrustworthy, to say the least. Some of the chicas also have sicarios, who are their clients, that they session with. So, as to avoid the drama, unwanted attention, and as a safety measure, I'd just follow the above mentioned modus operandi.

Cheers!

Surfer500
09-11-20, 21:53
I'm absolutely thinking about buying a penthouse in Provenza, the main concern for me is long term security. I don't want to have a permanent place in Medellin where all the girls can definitively find me. Every year, I will have to retire a good amount of 21 year-olds who turn 22, if they knew where I permanently live, then it create a whole host of issues. What's your thought on that?I don't think security is going to be the problems you will have if you own a Penthouse in Poblado. The Portero's will be able to manage who is allowed to visit you per your direction. However, if your going thru so many girls, you may have one or more that will create a nightmare for you after you trade them in or dump them. It could be embarrassing for you if they are showing up looking for you after your done with them and having the Porteros sending them off, and there may some issues with the other residents and even the Porteros. One of the Porteros in my building has given me the "stink eye" on a couple of occasions, but I don't have a revolving door.

If and when you get a Penthouse in Medellin, don't tell any of your girls that your the owner of the apartment. Your just temporarily renting.

Also, and more importantly, and as previously mentioned, try to break off the relationships peacefully and on good terms, albeit the jealous ones may be the problematic ones. As an example, if your in Gustos's and are pursuing new pussy there, some of your past conquests may not be happy campers upon seeing you.

I'm looking forward to all the future drama you will be reporting when you get back.

Surfer500
09-11-20, 21:57
Most of the people I work with, myself included, holds at least two advance degrees, that's master degree or above, from name brand universities such as Cambridge, MIT, Stanford. Etc. Anyways, I really don't want to turn this board into a place for university rivalry, I have enough of that in real life. This will be the last post from me on this issue. Sorry guys that I even started this topic.I have an HSD, do any of the people you work with have this type of degree?

SJobs
09-11-20, 22:08
I'm just honestly asking why you are laughing out loud? Only because I don't understand. A lot of girls are not only beautiful but also have smart business skills. The girls can also be Generous. Generosity, business acumen, manners All these personality traits make a woman more attractive and desirable. Sometimes women value trustworthy repeat customers. At the end of the day being honest can put more money in your pocket in the long run than having a hot behind. Of course, this does not apply to all customers and all business scenarios. Seriously dude! This type of business is not about putting a few extra dollar bills in your pocket, it's about building trust and business relationships that will put money in your pocket for many years to come. Also you make a lot of friends on the way which will make your life brighter and they can even help you out sometimes.

This is a fact, if the conditions are right, that a woman will return money if you overpay. I would not ever spent time with the swindler even if she was a 12 out of 10.Very well put. I couldn't agree with you more.

Nounce
09-11-20, 22:08
Since you seem to say you don't live in US.

FYI:


A: testing is not as readily available in the US as most other countries.
That is not a correct generalization. I don't know about all cities in US but I know in the cities I am from. It is widely available and I think it is free.



B: The US is having great difficulty getting results back to people fast enough.

For example: If you want to fly on a Thursday at 9 am, you will need to be tested (negative PCR test) no earlier than Monday at 9 am and have the negative test results in hand when you attempt to check into the flight.

How practical is that for most Americans right now?That is also not a correct generalization. Again, I don't know about all countries but I do know some countries require the date the "test report" issued, not the date it is taken. Also the weekend may not be counted for practical reason.

Nounce
09-11-20, 22:12
Anyway, I'm not arguing for absolute certainty here, but the evidence is overwhelming. Like I said before, If my 9/21 Cartagena flight gets cancel, I will check into a hotel in FLL, buy one ticket a day until I get through. The chances of me making it over in late September or early October is very high, as indicated by the best available data.I read that at least Viva is also flying. They have a flight to MDE with a Catagena layover.

I guess you are in a special situation that you can write off all your living and travel expenses as work related. You are lucky to be able find people. We have problem filling local positions with local recruiter in other nearby countries. We interviewed many and at least half of the candidates are already working for multinationals but none of them did well enough in interview. We are not picky because we just want to keep the slots by hiring someone that can fit in in someway before we lost the slots forever.

SJobs
09-11-20, 22:13
Always when you say goodbye to girlfriend or lover. Say goodbye as friends and make sure she is happy. At least the most possible.Absolutely agree. That's how I handle things in real life. But the difference here is that I will be seen hundreds (possibly thousands) of girls a year in my apartment, I will likely retire 30-50 21-year-olds each year. The likelihood of having a bad egg or two is too high. Once the place is permanent, I can easily disappear.

Knowledge
09-12-20, 01:00
It is the President's decision.


I don't know if the Colombian people consider the mayor of Cartagena a legit government official or not, in the US, the mayor of a major city is certainly considered as a government official. One of the link I posted have him saying during a news interview: "Cartagena will be the first city open for international flight on 9/21". Furthermore, although the Cartagena airport's official twitter account is not as authoritative as the statement from Duque that I posted a few weeks ago, but it is certainly more credible than a random incognito person making educated assertions.

Anyway, I'm not arguing for absolute certainty here, but the evidence is overwhelming. Like I said before, If my 9/21 Cartagena flight gets cancel, I will check into a hotel in FLL, buy one ticket a day until I get through. The chances of me making it over in late September or early October is very high, as indicated by the best available data.

Member #4665
09-12-20, 01:29
Some of these chicas are untrustworthy, to say the least. Some of the chicas also have sicarios, who are their clients, that they session with.
That is true. It is best not to make bad blood with anyone because the sicarios, according to What a policeman Said, don't charge more than 50,000, and they will do anything.

Out of curiosity, how untrustworthy are some of the girls? Do you have any stories? It's good to hear the story because then one can avoid the scams. For example when you have a girl over you should store all your belongings in a bag with a lock. Don't leave anything lying around.

There also reports of guys getting jealous when the girl goes with another guy at the FKK. And sometimes the women get these jealous feelings too. Little conflicts here and there.

Knowledge
09-12-20, 02:16
Centro rate here, it's still up and running. Personally I avoid the place because I don't like their business model. It is the McDonalds of Centro casas. I respect their hustle. They have something for almost everyone and they are to casas as Durex and Heineken are to condoms and beer.


The Centro Rat Pack will know better than I, but I would tend to think this is more of a guess, based on the fucking outer door being shut, and not being able to see the inner door. One is brown, the other is blue. I hope it's not true, and that's my theory. If it is true, that building isn't going to turn into a Frisby, so likely some one else (or the same people) will get it back up and running, new name or not.

Sounds magical. I'm listening to the fellas putting the final day of work in on my new jacuzzi, as I type this. I'll be targeting a trio party as soon as Pinky returns.

Have you ever looked into buying a place, down here? I've got my eye on one, and I'm wondering if I'm jumping the gun, or if I should just go with my gut.

SJobs
09-12-20, 02:43
I read that at least Viva is also flying. They have a flight to MDE with a Catagena layover.

I guess you are in a special situation that you can write off all your living and travel expenses as work related. You are lucky to be able find people. We have problem filling local positions with local recruiter in other nearby countries. We interviewed many and at least half of the candidates are already working for multinationals but none of them did well enough in interview. We are not picky because we just want to keep the slots by hiring someone that can fit in in someway before we lost the slots forever.Well, not really. I'm one of the owner of the company, so in the end, it's my own money that I'm writing off. I hear you about hiring in Medellin, it's tough. My hit rate is about 30 to 1, 30 interviews one hire, offer acceptance rate 100%. In the valley I use to fight for talent with google and Facebook, fuck it was brutal, offer acceptance in the valley is under 20%. I think the PhD and master students in Colombian universities should give a big thanks to those 18-21 year-old chicas. Having access to high quality pussy was one of the key motivating factor for me to decide to invest heavily in Medellin.

GeneHickman
09-12-20, 03:41
I'm absolutely thinking about buying a penthouse in Provenza, the main concern for me is long term security. I don't want to have a permanent place in Medellin where all the girls can definitively find me. Every year, I will have to retire a good amount of 21 year-olds who turn 22, if they knew where I permanently live, then it create a whole host of issues. What's your thought on that?Sjobs, you need a stable of ISG board members to pass the 21 yr olds on to! 😂.

Not too much wrong with 21 yr old pussy in my opinion.

GeneHickman
09-12-20, 03:44
The Centro Rat Pack will know better than I, but I would tend to think this is more of a guess, based on the fucking outer door being shut, and not being able to see the inner door. One is brown, the other is blue. I hope it's not true, and that's my theory. If it is true, that building isn't going to turn into a Frisby, so likely some one else (or the same people) will get it back up and running, new name or not.

Sounds magical. I'm listening to the fellas putting the final day of work in on my new jacuzzi, as I type this. I'll be targeting a trio party as soon as Pinky returns.

Have you ever looked into buying a place, down here? I've got my eye on one, and I'm wondering if I'm jumping the gun, or if I should just go with my gut.Not a bad time to be putting in a lowball offer.

PolloNegro
09-12-20, 03:51
One thing to keep in mind, if you buy a home it is yours, plus with your mindset of retiring girls when they turn 21 or 22, you must never allow them to know where you live, as generous as you claim that you are, you will never get rid of them and they will continue to try and see you regardless of your retirement plan for them. Many chics tell me that they came by my old place every time I visit Centro and I remind them that I no longer live there and my girlfriend lives with me now, so I will not allow anyone to know where I live. Not only this, if the girl knows where you live she has unlimited time to plan on how to have her friend rob you and extort you. If mongering is your main objective, it will always be best that you have an AirBnb or an apartment for a short time. The less these girls know about you the better, Pollo Negro is out!

Elvis 2008
09-12-20, 05:08
Wait, do we live in the same America? Or am I really living in a bubble as thick as they say?No offense, but you are. I get why. The living costs are through the roof.


In the Silicon Valley, 100 k is considered below minimum wage. A typical Uber drive in the Bay Area can pull in 120 k a year, and with 120 k annual salary, you are literally considered living in poverty in San Francisco if you have to support a family.Look at the salaries in Colombia here: http://www.salaryexplorer.com/salary-survey.php?loc=47&loctype=1.

Top pay is 21 million COP per month. That is about $5700 per month or $68,000 per year.

Average wage is 4.4 million COP per month. That is about $1200 per month or $14,000 per year.


It make sense Colombian women will do it for 100 k a year.If they made that, every decent looking woman in Colombia would be a webcam model. I do not get why some here inflated the wages these women make.

Gringo Trooper
09-12-20, 05:41
Out of curiosity, how untrustworthy are some of the girls? Do you have any stories? It's good to hear the story because then one can avoid the scams. For example when you have a girl over you should store all your belongings in a bag with a lock. Don't leave anything lying around.Fortunately, no real issues here. If you select the right girl, and she is a pro, hopefully she knows that she doesn't want to do something stupid, like steal my stuff. When security at hotel has already photocopied her ID and security calls me once she leaves to go home.

I don't even use the lock boxes, all my goods, cash, cards, are just chillen in my suitcase. However, I do have eyes on the chica at all times, and leave the door open if I need to use the bathroom.

The only issues I ever have are with taxi drivers. Sometimes they will "forget" to reset their meter from their last fare. Or they will speed up their taxi meter and run up the price. But, if you're aware and cognizant of what's going on, it's rarely an issue.

I'll take a 70 year old taxi driver over some 21 year old punk taxi driver any day of the week.

SJobs
09-12-20, 06:46
Sjobs, you need a stable of ISG board members to pass the 21 yr olds on to! 😂.

Not too much wrong with 21 yr old pussy in my opinion.There is absolutely nothing wrong with 21-24 year-olds, older than 24 would be too old for me. In Brazil and the FKKs, my upper limit is 24, since there aren't many 18-year-olds running around. In the you. S, my upper limit is 40 (that's older than me! Fuck! I hate sex prisons), there are some awesome Korean girls in California in their late thirties who provide remarkable service. However, in Medellin, I have an infinite supply of 18-year-olds, if a girl is really really really hot, I might keep her until she reaches 24. Personally, I prefer 18-year-olds who have tight body and lots of energy, if there are 50 hours in a day and I can fuck nonstop for 48 out of the 50 hours, then I will try to fuck girls from 18-24. Unfortunately, my fucking capacity is limited, at my maximum capacity, I can only fuck 12 girls a day, at this rate, I will not have enough time to go through all my 18-21 year-olds. In other words, every 22 year-old I fuck in Medellin is one less 18-21 year-old I can fuck. Don't get me wrong, if a 22-24 year-old is super fun to hangout with, I will definitely keep her around, but given the sheer number of girls I normally fuck in Medellin, probabilistically speaking, I will end up retiring a ton of 21-year-olds. Anyways, that is certainly a good problem to have. Let's get back to the only issue that matters to all the mongers outside of Colombia, how can we to get back into heaven.

Nounce
09-12-20, 08:29
But the difference here is that I will be seen hundreds (possibly thousands) of girls a year in my apartment, I will likely retire 30-50 21-year-olds each yearI think you know those numbers are just a dream and unlikely even if you live full time there. If you count repeat, then maybe. And tuci everyday?

Nounce
09-12-20, 08:42
Out of curiosity, how untrustworthy are some of the girls? Do you have any stories? It's good to hear the story because then one can avoid the scams.It is difficult to avoid because most of the times you find it out after the fact. How trustworthy or untrustworthy I think depending on your viewpoint. It is a good idea to not let your guard down and feel safe because that usually is the most dangerous time for you.

Nounce
09-12-20, 10:51
Out of curiosity, how untrustworthy are some of the girls? Do you have any stories? It's good to hear the story because then one can avoid the scams.It is difficult to avoid because most of the times you find it out after the fact. How trustworthy or untrustworthy I think depending on your viewpoint. It is a good idea to not let your guard down and feel safe because that usually is the most dangerous for you.

Turgid
09-12-20, 14:09
Absolutely agree. That's how I handle things in real life. But the difference here is that I will be seen hundreds (possibly thousands) of girls a year in my apartment, I will likely retire 30-50 21-year-olds each year. The likelihood of having a bad egg or two is too high. Once the place is permanent, I can easily disappear.Hundreds of girls knowing you, where you live and the details of the interior of your apartment? How could that be safe? The odds alone!

Turgid
09-12-20, 14:17
Heard from another site New Life is gone. Even the painter door is gone too.Very sad news indeed. It was my go to casa for many years. Ahhh, the memories!

Black Page
09-12-20, 14:50
Hundreds of girls knowing you, where you live and the details of the interior of your apartment? How could that be safe? The odds alone!There must be a reason if all local men, including single, bring their lovers and paid girlfriends to short-time hotels and never at home. Right?

SpiderRider
09-12-20, 16:00
I've got an expat buddy who lives full time in Medellin. This is what he told me yesterday (Thursday):

"I was there Tuesday and Wednesday the door is still blue, only difference you pay ahead now and the girls each have their own room, when they do the line up they come down the stairs no more back room they have to wear a mask, they don't shake hands. But I will say I get treated pretty good, maybe because I think I'm their only customer, very slow and they are much higher than the others."The address and landmarks please, anyone? I have completely forgotten how to get to New Life. It was at least 5 years ago. And, another person took me there. I welcome a P.M. Thank you.

Combo
09-12-20, 17:30
Hundreds of girls knowing you, where you live and the details of the interior of your apartment? How could that be safe? The odds alone!Not to mention that with the crazy money he throws around, he's even more of a target. In a country where the average person makes about $260/ per month, you don't want to present yourself as having money to burn.


There must be a reason if all local men, including single, bring their lovers and paid girlfriends to short-time hotels and never at home. Right?To be fair, a lot of them do it because they live with multiple family members and privacy is impossible. That said, you're right, you don't always want these girls to know where you live.

SJobs
09-12-20, 18:18
Not to mention that with the crazy money he throws around, he's even more of a target. In a country where the average person makes about $260/ per month, you don't want to present yourself as having money to burn.

To be fair, a lot of them do it because they live with multiple family members and privacy is impossible. That said, you're right, you don't always want these girls to know where you live.All very valid points, I'm thinking about the same thing. I will most likely be renting and moving around for awhile. I don't want to start buying properties in Medellin until I figure out how to handle retired chicas, regardless how attractive the offer is.

TrueGent
09-12-20, 18:18
Just landed in the city and wondering in the current climate what establishments are operational and the best place to peruse the ladies? I looked back over a month and not much related to that. Advice would be very welcome. Thank you. I have been stuck in Cali for 6 months LOL.

Member #4665
09-12-20, 20:18
There is absolutely nothing wrong with 21-24 My favorite woman, which loves me the best is 25 - 27. :) Good love. Good love. Good love.

Surfer500
09-12-20, 20:24
Unfortunately, my fucking capacity is limited, at my maximum capacity, I can only fuck 12 girls a day, at this rate, I will not have enough time to go through all my 18-21 year-olds. And I'm going to have to assume that you come every time as well, correct? Could you give us a break on all this silly nonsense you come up with please, albeit it's entertaining, but it's getting old. We have posters claiming there doing 6 girls a day, but 12.

TrueGent
09-12-20, 21:00
Had a rather nice encounter here. They display the girls on the 3rd floor but it seems they occupy the whole building. The lineup was about 14 girls with about 4 standouts. I chose Jimena. A 6'11" venny mulato beauty with shoulder length hair. The sheer enthusiasm, friendly attitude and sexual prowess blew me away. The charge is 60 k for an hour but I had to tip her extra for an outstanding performance.

SJobs
09-12-20, 21:35
And I'm going to have to assume that you come every time as well, correct? Could you give us a break on all this silly nonsense you come up with please, albeit it's entertaining, but it's getting old. We have posters claiming there doing 6 girls a day, but 12.It's my maximum capacity, did that once at the FKK world near Frankfurt, it's not a daily thing. The point I was trying to make is that even if I can operate at my max capacity all the time, which is obviously impossible, I still can't go through all the younger pussies available to me in Medellin. I will make sure I put things in simpler terms next time, so people don't miss the point.

Certainly glad you are taking the time to read my post, analyzing it and cross referencing it to other posts. I wonder how much effort you put in for posts you deemed sensical.

Balboa
09-12-20, 21:41
There is absolutely nothing wrong with 21-24 year-olds, older than 24 would be too old for me. In Brazil and the FKKs, my upper limit is 24, since there aren't many 18-year-olds running around. In the you. S, my upper limit is 40 (that's older than me! Fuck! I hate sex prisons), there are some awesome Korean girls in California in their late thirties who provide remarkable service. However, in Medellin, I have an infinite supply of 18-year-olds, if a girl is really really really hot, I might keep her until she reaches 24. Personally, I prefer 18-year-olds who have tight body and lots of energy, if there are 50 hours in a day and I can fuck nonstop for 48 out of the 50 hours, then I will try to fuck girls from 18-24. Unfortunately, my fucking capacity is limited, at my maximum capacity, I can only fuck 12 girls a day, at this rate, I will not have enough time to go through all my 18-21 year-olds. In other words, every 22 year-old I fuck in Medellin is one less 18-21 year-old I can fuck. Don't get me wrong, if a 22-24 year-old is super fun to hangout with, I will definitely keep her around, but given the sheer number of girls I normally fuck in Medellin, probabilistically speaking, I will end up retiring a ton of 21-year-olds. Anyways, that is certainly a good problem to have. Let's get back to the only issue that matters to all the mongers outside of Colombia, how can we to get back into heaven.Haha 12 girls a day, Yikes!

P.S, I'm back in heaven!

Arrived in Brasil this morning.

Doubt I'll be with 12 a day though, LOL.

I'm a quality over quantity type of guy these days.

Colombia rocks and I understand your obsession, however, Brasil is #1 for me!

SpiderRider
09-12-20, 21:48
Just landed in the city and wondering in the current climate what establishments are operational and the best place to peruse the ladies? I looked back over a month and not much related to that. Advice would be very welcome. Thank you. I have been stuck in Cali for 6 months LOL.The only establishment I know, where you can hang out and watch, that is operating in Luna Lunera. But I got a message that they' re closed today (Saturday). I thought it a bit odd. Apartment girls on mileroticos. Co. Some centro salas are operating.

Nounce
09-12-20, 22:01
We have posters claiming there doing 6 girls a day, but 12.I think SJobs is plotting and dreaming what he is going to do in his head. I was wondering if anyone can really sustain that for a long period of time. Is that even healthy? If it is maybe I will go to New Life to try it everyday to save time, lol.

Nounce
09-12-20, 22:14
Well, not really. I'm one of the owner of the company, so in the end, it's my own money that I'm writing off. I hear you about hiring in Medellin, it's tough. My hit rate is about 30 to 1, 30 interviews one hire, offer acceptance rate 100%.What I mean is that you can get a large discount on your expenses if you can write them off as it can be considered as work related trip.

The hiring is not in Medellin. It is in other more advanced country, more Silicon Valley company branches, more multinationals so more competitions.

Blakman
09-13-20, 00:31
Brazil is on my to do list. But I am thinking this is the wrong time because of the virus. Share with me sensible reasons to come when the rate of infection is so high.


Haha 12 girls a day, Yikes!

P.S., I'm back in heaven!

Arrived in Brasil this morning.

Doubt I'll be with 12 a day though, LOL.

I'm a quality over quantity type of guy these days.

Colombia rocks and I understand your obsession, however, Brasil is #1 for me!.

Surfer500
09-13-20, 00:57
I think SJobs is plotting and dreaming what he is going to do in his head. I was wondering if anyone can really sustain that for a long period of time. Is that even healthy? If it is maybe I will go to New Life to try it everyday to save time, lol.Is that healthy, good question. Can somebody sustain that day in and day out, another good question. Is the guy going to come every time, no I don't think so. I can imagine doing 12 a day even being way older than SJobs, but it would entail an intavenous drip of viagra, so I can see getting hard, being able to penetrate a Chica every two hours, but it might actually be torture. A good day for me is four times a day and coming each time. Very doable and pleasurable. But I'm an old fart and suppose a young stud with a Harem could be pulling it off.

Imagine hundreds of years ago when rulers had Concubines and Harems, can you imagine being reincarnated and living in a palace with rooms full of young women at your beck and call. This is what SJobs is craving for, and I'm with him on this, albeit it will be on a much smaller scale than the Sultans of a bygone era.

Zeos1
09-13-20, 02:55
Had a rather nice encounter here. They display the girls on the 3rd floor but it seems they occupy the whole building. The lineup was about 14 girls with about 4 standouts. I chose Jimena. A 6'11" venny mulato beauty with shoulder length hair. The sheer enthusiasm, friendly attitude and sexual prowess blew me away. The charge is 60 k for an hour but I had to tip her extra for an outstanding performance.6 feet 11 inches is a lot of woman. But great that you can bury your head between the knockers while you're still pounding away.

PdSuave
09-13-20, 03:13
Is that healthy, good question. Can somebody sustain that day in and day out, another good question. Is the guy going to come every time, no I don't think so. I can imagine doing 12 a day even being way older than SJobs, but it would entail an intavenous drip of viagra, so I can see getting hard, being able to penetrate a Chica every two hours, but it might actually be torture. A good day for me is four times a day and coming each time. Very doable and pleasurable. But I'm an old fart and suppose a young stud with a Harem could be pulling it off.

Imagine hundreds of years ago when rulers had Concubines and Harems, can you imagine being reincarnated and living in a palace with rooms full of young women at your beck and call. This is what SJobs is craving for, and I'm with him on this, albeit it will be on a much smaller scale than the Sultans of a bygone era.While I very much enjoy his dream land, he's been very open about his 2 see use too. I'm sure that garbage makes anyone feel like they can bang 10 18 yo's a day. It will catch up, regardless of Ivy League education. But. Loving the stories.

TrueGent
09-13-20, 03:15
Had a rather nice encounter here. They display the girls on the 3rd floor but it seems they occupy the whole building. The lineup was about 14 girls with about 4 standouts. I chose Jimena. A 6'11" venny mulato beauty with shoulder length hair. The sheer enthusiasm, friendly attitude and sexual prowess blew me away. The charge is 60 k for an hour but I had to tip her extra for an outstanding performance.Sorry should be 5 11.

SJobs
09-13-20, 04:39
Haha 12 girls a day, Yikes!

P.S., I'm back in heaven!

Arrived in Brasil this morning.

Doubt I'll be with 12 a day though, LOL.

I'm a quality over quantity type of guy these days.

Colombia rocks and I understand your obsession, however, Brasil is #1 for me!First of all, congratulations on returning to heaven! Despite my intense love affair with Medellin, in my book, Brazil is still the best place monger heaven on earth! Very well done; I sure you will have an absolute blast in Brazil.

As I explained it to Surfer on the other post, cum 12-times a day was once a lifetime. My most memorable mongering moment: I cum 12 times on the first day and 11 times on the second day, 23 times in two days, with more than 20 girls, but it was about 10-years ago; I was young, in my late 20's. After those two days, I could barely walk, but I had a big smile on my face for days (I fucked a few more times on the third day at the FKK Shark). Man, I missed the FKK World in 2014. [Deleted by Admin] When I was younger, I tried to fuck as much as I can and cum as many times as I can; I was a clueless twenty-something. After I marched into my thirties, I realized that it is much more fun to fuck continuously for hours than just cum, rest, and start another round; most of the later rounds are ending-up with a hand job finish.

After I return to my mini heaven, a. K. a Medellin, I will focus on quality over quantity, as any mature monger would do. My goal is to fuck 10-20 different girls a week, with a mixture of foursomes and threesomes. I'm almost sure that I will make it over one way or another before the end of this month. I will report back pronto.

SJobs
09-13-20, 04:57
My favorite woman, which loves me the best is 25 - 27. :) Good love. Good love. Good love.The absolute best sex I have ever had was with a 26 year old Romanian girl, but that's literally 1 out of 1000. On average, I enjoy 18-21 year-olds much more than 24+, this is just me, I like to party for 48 hours straight, most of the older girls can't keep up.

SJobs
09-13-20, 05:13
One thing to keep in mind, if you buy a home it is yours, plus with your mindset of retiring girls when they turn 21 or 22, you must never allow them to know where you live, as generous as you claim that you are, you will never get rid of them and they will continue to try and see you regardless of your retirement plan for them. Many chics tell me that they came by my old place every time I visit Centro and I remind them that I no longer live there and my girlfriend lives with me now, so I will not allow anyone to know where I live. Not only this, if the girl knows where you live she has unlimited time to plan on how to have her friend rob you and extort you. If mongering is your main objective, it will always be best that you have an AirBnb or an apartment for a short time. The less these girls know about you the better, Pollo Negro is out!This is a legit advice, I appreciate it. The chica retirement situation is certainly something I need to sort out before I can buy a place in Medellin.

Knowledge
09-13-20, 05:23
Eros Spa is aka "La Castellana" or in Blakman's detail oriented description "the place off la 81" LOL! But seriously, search one of my reports from 2 or 3 months ago when I was pleasantly surprised how negligible the uplift was to use a credit card. Be advised the charge appears as "Eros Spa" on your credit card bill. That doesn't work for certain family situations but it's no problem for me. I realized I did not have enough cash at a very late stage in the visit LOL!


Had a rather nice encounter here. They display the girls on the 3rd floor but it seems they occupy the whole building. The lineup was about 14 girls with about 4 standouts. I chose Jimena. A 6'11" venny mulato beauty with shoulder length hair. The sheer enthusiasm, friendly attitude and sexual prowess blew me away. The charge is 60 k for an hour but I had to tip her extra for an outstanding performance.

Knowledge
09-13-20, 05:24
I vote for a typo of 5'11", which is still a hell of a lot of woman.


6 feet 11 inches is a lot of woman. But great that you can bury your head between the knockers while you're still pounding away.

Nounce
09-13-20, 05:35
Share with me sensible reasons to come when the rate of infection is so high.

.I guess it helps the decision when he is already immune.

SJobs
09-13-20, 05:58
It is the President's decision.In case you missed it, the president has already decided that Colombia will open for international flights in September. https://idm.presidencia.gov.co/prensa/Paginas/En-septiembre-tendremos-pilotos-de-vuelos-internacionales-Presidente-Duque-200830.aspx I believe this is as unequivocal as it gets.

It is up to the states / cities to implement the details. You don't expect Duque to spend time managing the details of the resumption of international flights to Cartagena, do you?

OK, let's get back to the facts:

1. we know without a doubt that Duque has given the go-ahead to open Colombia for international flights in September. If you don't believe that given the source I included in this post, then we can stop this argument all at once; we view the world from a different educational background.

2. A mayor of a city mayor has officially said on camera that his city would open for international flights on 9/21; this is well within the president's directive. If you don't believe he is telling the truth, can you please enlighten us why a credible government official would make a bold statement like that on camera?

https://twitter.com/NoticiasRCN/status/1303133345358979072?s=20

https://mobile.twitter.com/aeroctg?lang=en

3. Every single major news media, diner, el Tiempo, Semana, and Cartagena airport's twitter account have confirmed the same news. If this is not true, what kind of evil power do you think is behind this?

https://www.lafm.com.co/colombia/el-21-de-septiembre-se-reanudan-los-vuelos-internacionales-en-cartagena

https://www.dinero.com/pais/articulo/vuelos-internacionales-colombia-cartagena-recibira-vuelos-el-21-de-septiembre/299396

https://www.semana.com/economia/articulo/vuelos-internacionales-pasajeros-tendra-que-presentar-prueba-pcr-para-covid/702435

https://mobile.twitter.com/aeroctg?lang=en

4. The two shortlisted airlines, spirit and viva, have not canceled their tickets on the 19th and the 21st yet; they typically cancel flights more than a week before they occur.

5. All of the unless credible sources such as blueradio and NoticiasCaracol all confirm the same news.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O_YjL-gcrDU

https://simpleflying.com/colombia-international-flight-resumption/

https://confidencialcolombia.com/en-las-regiones/primer-vuelo-internacional-de-barranquilla/2020/09/08/

https://www.valoraanalitik.com/2020/09/10/viva-air-reactiva-los-vuelos-internacionales-desde-colombia-con-ruta-a-estados-unidos/

https://torreeldorado.co/confirmada-la-primera-aerolinea-en-retornar-vuelos-a-colombia/

https://www.financecolombia.com/viva-air-restarts-international-flights-september-19-with-miami-cartagena-route/

6. Viva airline's official Twitter account confirms the same thing https://twitter.com/vivaaircol/status/1304164658350297089?s=21.

https://www.valoraanalitik.com/2020/09/10/viva-air-reactiva-los-vuelos-internacionales-desde-colombia-con-ruta-a-estados-unidos/

Let's be real here; the evidence is overwhelming; I would love to hear people's opinions, as long as they bring facts on the table.

Mojo Bandit
09-13-20, 09:29
I'm absolutely thinking about buying a penthouse in Provenza, the main concern for me is long term security. I don't want to have a permanent place in Medellin where all the girls can definitively find me. Every year, I will have to retire a good amount of 21 year-olds who turn 22, if they knew where I permanently live, then it create a whole host of issues. What's your thought on that?I know you did not ask me but I will throw my two cents in here. When you say "penthouse" it makes me think that you will be in a secure building with a door man or some type of security. Then you just tell them you are not home when said girls come. Most will call about any guest anyway but I doubt they are going to stalk your building or anything. My most pressing concern if I was buying a condo there would be whether I could get a chica up to my apartment if the buildings have some restrictions like most of the buildings rentals are in. Another thing to be damn careful about is this: you love the eighteen year olds, I assume because they are young and fresh looking (I do not have anything against them either) but you have to be damn careful about checking their cedulas because if she happens to be seventeen years and 363 days old, and say some neighbor calls the police (which from my understanding has happened before) even if she swears to the authorities that you did not have sex and they do not give you 14 years in prison, they will take your apartment in a heartbeat with no compensation. I have thought this through because I dabble with the ideal of someday retiring there myself and it would pay to have security but at the same time it just has to be a tolerant building for our hobby.

Outside of those concerns you also have to worry about getting charged "gringo prices", but I am not sure you can avoid that if you are buying a penthouse in Provenza.

Voyajer1
09-13-20, 10:09
According to this article, the first tourism flight to Medellin will start on September 23rd. Anyone who plans on going on this flights, please let us know the paly by play on the voyage. The route is Medellin / Cartagena / Miami. Here is the article: https://www.colombia.com/turismo/noticias/turismo-vuelos-internacionales-280289.