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DramaFree11
10-17-20, 00:51
Also be careful with girls who just post 1 or 2 pictures. Sometimes a person can look really good or completely different in a picture than what they really look like. So it's always best to ask for more pictures particularly ordinary everyday pictures To be able to see who a person is.Wednesday I had my last meeting in MTY. Pictures were great I was real excited. Very tall, but she could have been a linebacker. She was huge. Video chat is always a good idea.

Knowledge
10-17-20, 00:56
DUO is about the largest generally available. You can find Durex comfort if you shop around a lot. I always stock up on condoms and shoes to bring back. Shoe size 48 (US 13) is considered freakishly big in Colombia.


I made it down to COL. Staying with some friends. I tried out the condoms but it was too small so it wouldn't roll all the way down to the base of my Mann shaft. Which brand and make of condom is a larger size. Because the boxes don't really specify the length of the condom.

Kinosellis
10-17-20, 01:38
I'm not sure what makes Facebook too annoying, especially if price really isn't an issue.

It's a simple process. While you're waiting for your trip, start building a list of chicas on Facebook. You can spend 10-15 minutes a day adding to your list. Unless you are starting your trip in the next 2 weeks, you can easily have 100-200 contacts before you go to the airport.

No need to send any messages or get into any involved conversation until about a week before your trip. Any girl that messages you, keep it simple. If they do message you it will probably be something like "Hola, Como ests" (Hello, how are you?)

You can reply with "Bien. Why tu? Estar en Medellin pronto why quiero verte." (I'm good. How are you? I will be in Medellin soon and want to see you.).

You can add in a few more pleasantries, but there's no need to get too involved. Later on you can talk price and details. My negotiation tactic is simple. If she quotes higher than I want to pay I respond with "Siempre pago. " Followed by my price (I always pay). Other people go back and forth over price. Your choice.

Then it's just a matter of day and time once you arrive.

Most Facebook girls seem happy to stay 2 or more hours and most, in my experience give full GFE. I've rarely had problems getting GFE and BBBJ and never paid extra for either.

To me, there are some advantages to Facebook..I just dislike using Facebook mostly. I usually avoid social media. I'll take your advice though. I'm visiting Medellin next month starting thanksgiving. I started trying to add girls. I'm only doing five a day. See if any accept. I only threw up one pic. I think the thing about Facebook is that it's awkward cause you really don't know these people and I'm never sure if they're working. So I'm basically randomly adding girls that are attractive. At least it feels that way.

MMHikeus
10-17-20, 03:25
Usually the phone number request is to move you to some other platform, such as Google Hangouts. They are limited on the scamming they can do on SA or whichever site.

However, with some websites, they can spoof your number then submit a change password request, provided they have your user ID. Mostly sites are using your email to notify you if anyone changes info in your account.Just get a virtual number like textnow linked to a throwaway email. Use that number for all your down low activities, use a fake name.

Zeos1
10-17-20, 03:27
I still wonder how can someone can get robbed on La 70, like I read here, not even at night, but during the day. If you get robbed during the day, you are really doing something wrong. I have been walking en el centro for hours and no one touched me. And I'm planning to go after midnight, with just enough money for the taxi, if not any, without my phone, so they will have nothing to rob.

I want to see if it's so dangerous like people say, because I'm sure it's not. They do rob, for sure, but if you don't have anything to rob, they will not rob you anything. During the day there is a LOT of police, and I have spoken with a policeman who told me they are there the entire night. Of course the night is much worse en El Centro, but it's not the Far West.

To be robbed on La 70 you must be dumb, really. There are places in Italy, and not even in the South, much more dangerous than La 70. I never felt unsafe, and I have been walking at 2 AM in the night. I went to la Mayorista at 1 AM.

I think some of you are paranoid, like the one saying you shouldn't give your phone number. LOL, to a Colombian chica. Fact is, you don't know what you are talking about.I've walked on 70 at lots of different hours. Never was robbed. But I can see that it could happen. I don't particularly feel unsafe there as there are usually lots of people around, even into the early morning, but still, it's very possible. I saw a guy chasing another guy with a machete in the middle of the day in with lots of police and people around. An off duty army guy took it on. And sorted it out.

As far as downtown, I've been there after the metro shuts down and all the visible police leave. That was not fun. Zombie land. Everyone is a target at that time of night unless you are a zombie too. In which case you are probably still a target.

You can get robbed anywhere. A gun in your ribs, a knife at your throat. Even in the best parts of the city. I know people that have had it happen. And know of one that died trying to defend his "stuff". On Poblado Avenue in broad daylight.

It's not about being paranoid, it is about being careful and not trying to be a hero if you have an alternative.

Surfer500
10-17-20, 03:29
I still wonder how can someone can get robbed on La 70, like I read here, not even at night, but during the day. If you get robbed during the day, you are really doing something wrong. I have been walking en el centro for hours and no one touched me. And I'm planning to go after midnight, with just enough money for the taxi, if not any, without my phone, so they will have nothing to rob.

I want to see if it's so dangerous like people say, because I'm sure it's not. They do rob, for sure, but if you don't have anything to rob, they will not rob you anything. During the day there is a LOT of police, and I have spoken with a policeman who told me they are there the entire night. Of course the night is much worse en El Centro, but it's not the Far West.

To be robbed on La 70 you must be dumb, really. There are places in Italy, and not even in the South, much more dangerous than La 70. I never felt unsafe, and I have been walking at 2 AM in the night. I went to la Mayorista at 1 AM.

I think some of you are paranoid, like the one saying you shouldn't give your phone number. LOL, to a Colombian chica. Fact is, you don't know what you are talking about.Your post begs the question how will a thief know whether you have anything of value on you unless they confront / assault you and go thru your pockets.

And cruising around EL Centro after midnight is not a good idea. Just hang around the Veracruz Church at that time and you will see what happens to you, and it won't be pleasant.

Surfer500
10-17-20, 03:35
DUO is about the largest generally available. You can find Durex comfort if you shop around a lot. I always stock up on condoms and shoes to bring back. Shoe size 48 (US 13) is considered freakishly big in Colombia.Shoe size 13 literally doesn't exist let alone size 12 for that matter in Colombia unless your at a specialty store with higher priced shoes. I needed to buy some waterproof size 12 hiking boots and had to go to a CAT store in a mall to find size 12. As far as condoms, well good advice to bring them with you as the larger sizes like Trojan Magnums aren't sold anywhere that I'm aware of.

Knowledge
10-17-20, 03:44
The location of your home would not be difficult to discover via that number. That doesn't necessarily matter but we all need to aware.


I keep an anonymous cheap walmart tracfone at my home and pay about $100 per year for service. Actually I use it to monitor a security system and my furnace settings but I also use it for my whatsapp number. I have no hesitation to give out my whatsapp number to anyone. If they call the number they will learn the temperature in my home LOL.

Elvis 2008
10-17-20, 04:18
I think some of you are paranoid, like the one saying you shouldn't give your phone number. LOL, to a Colombian chica. Fact is, you don't know what you are talking about.I have seen people using Telegram over whatsapp because supposedly it is more secure. Skype has a built in translation feature which is nice, and you can use it to get a different phone number or you could use google voice if you want.

But I have never done it and I do not know why I would. I guess if you are married something could be done, but yeah, I do not get the paranoia either.

Nounce
10-17-20, 04:39
The scammers also want to move the conversation elsewhere ASAP. I do not use SA, but it is the same thing on Cupid. SD has to pay in order to message on SA but it is free for SB to message so most scammers are SBs. I also don't reply to messages initiated by SBs and that pretty much filters out most of the scammers. I don't always send my number on first message. I do it sometimes when I am lazy and I don't think it is effective either.

Nounce
10-17-20, 04:51
I've walked on 70 at lots of different hours. Never was robbed. But I can see that it could happen. I don't particularly feel unsafe there as there are usually lots of people around, even into the early morning, but still, it's very possible. I saw a guy chasing another guy with a machete in the middle of the day in with lots of police and people around. An off duty army guy took it on. And sorted it out.It's a percentage game. It does not mean one definitely will get robbed. It is just the percentage of being robbed is higher. The bad guys can work as a team and move around in busy places so it is not that easy to spot until you become a target. They come, they find a target, then they move on to another place.

Judd
10-17-20, 05:21
100% completely baseless n false story. Where's the article on this arrest, or did you hear it from some chica? I know the person who this in reference too. He is collecting info to potentially file a lawsuit against the person, quite possibly a member on this board, whose spreading these false rumors. You should not be spreading these false accusations, unless you can provide details like a link to the arrest.

Take Care, and Be Safe!


Apparently, a monger known to frequent Medellin was arrested at the Bogota airport on Tuesday. His passport was confiscated and he will spend 2 months in jail before being deported. He will not be allowed to return for 5 years.

Allegedly this guy liked to tie up hookers and beat them. All good, up to a point. However, he beat them bloody and at least one ended up in the hospital.

There was someone a few months back talking about beating up hookers if they gave him any problems. It would appear that's not a good idea.

Gringo Trooper
10-17-20, 05:25
Where's the article on this arrest, or did you hear it from some chica? I know the person who this in reference too. I'm not going to.

Discuss the details, but just simply say this is BS, and 100% completely fabricated. You should not be spreading these false accusations, unless you can provide details like a link to the arrest.

Take Care, and Be Safe!Guy, gets 2 months in jail for beating up a girl likely won't make it to the newspaper buddy.

JjBee62
10-17-20, 06:36
100% completely baseless n false story. Where's the article on this arrest, or did you hear it from some chica? I know the person who this in reference too. He is collecting info to potentially file a lawsuit against the person, quite possibly a member on this board, whose spreading these false rumors. You should not be spreading these false accusations, unless you can provide details like a link to the arrest.

Take Care, and Be Safe!1. I am not spreading any false rumors. The language I used clearly indicates I am sharing something I heard.

2. Nothing in my report, or the follow up reports can in any way be used to identify the alleged perpetrator, unless he has been arrested and there is a news story about it.

3. The report serves a purpose to warn people about the sort of behavior your friend allegedly enjoys.

If you or anyone else feels that warning mongers against committing acts of violence in Medellin is wrong, so be it. I will not budge from my belief that mongering should be safe for all parties.

As for the lawsuit, I would love to ne in the courtroom to hear that one.

"Your honor, my client engages with prostitutes."

"Counselor, could you repeat that?

"Your honor, my client engages with prostitutes in Colombia."

"In Colombia?

"Yes your honor. The country in South America. And the defendant has said things which were harmful to my client's reputation."

"You mean more harmful than admitting, on record, he travels to Colombia to pay for sex with prostitutes?

"Umm. Yes your honor."

Nounce
10-17-20, 06:48
I still wonder how can someone can get robbed on La 70Which post? That area is generally fine. I don't recall people saying it is dangerous to not go there.

JjBee62
10-17-20, 07:05
I still wonder how can someone can get robbed on La 70, like I read here, not even at night, but during the day. If you get robbed during the day, you are really doing something wrong. I have been walking en el centro for hours and no one touched me. And I'm planning to go after midnight, with just enough money for the taxi, if not any, without my phone, so they will have nothing to rob.

I want to see if it's so dangerous like people say, because I'm sure it's not. They do rob, for sure, but if you don't have anything to rob, they will not rob you anything. During the day there is a LOT of police, and I have spoken with a policeman who told me they are there the entire night. Of course the night is much worse en El Centro, but it's not the Far West.

To be robbed on La 70 you must be dumb, really. There are places in Italy, and not even in the South, much more dangerous than La 70. I never felt unsafe, and I have been walking at 2 AM in the night. I went to la Mayorista at 1 AM.

I think some of you are paranoid, like the one saying you shouldn't give your phone number. LOL, to a Colombian chica. Fact is, you don't know what you are talking about.I've walked all over La 70 and the surrounding streets at all hours. 3 times I saw potential problems, all involving the same guy, twice during the day. I had 3 guys attempt to rob me in El Centro, in the middle of a crowd in broad daylight. I saw 2 guys rob and beat a guy one night next to the Veracruz church.

No place is dangerous, until suddenly it is.

Going to walk around El Centro after midnight, with nothing to steal sounds like a good idea, if you're wanting to rate the Colombian healthcare system. You may need to rate it posthumously.

The flaw in your plan is the thieves don't know whether you have nothing to steal, or you're not giving them what they want. However, since you're obviously not a resident of El Centro, it seems unlikely they'll believe you have nothing. From about every report I've heard, including one from a girl I know in Milagro, when people refuse to give money, they get stabbed or shot.

As for the police, after about 9, they become scarce in El Centro.

Let us know how your experiment works out, or we can read about it elsewhere.

Judd
10-17-20, 07:16
I think anytime an American violates the law in a Foreign Country where a police report is filed, and it's a very violent act that results in a person going to the hospital, the local newspaper would pickup that story.

Thanks,


Guy, gets 2 months in jail for beating up a girl likely won't make it to the newspaper buddy.

TripleX
10-17-20, 08:39
100% completely baseless n false story. Where's the article on this arrest, or did you hear it from some chica? I know the person who this in reference too. He is collecting info to potentially file a lawsuit against the person, quite possibly a member on this board, whose spreading these false rumors. You should not be spreading these false accusations, unless you can provide details like a link to the arrest.

Take Care, and Be Safe!Might be a BS story but what court is going to give someone standing for a story on a monger board from anonymous sources in which they were never named? Anyways treat those girls good until I can get there.

Judd
10-17-20, 10:33
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Mr Enternational
10-17-20, 11:36
As far as condoms, well good advice to bring them with you as the larger sizes like Trojan Magnums aren't sold anywhere that I'm aware of.Magnums are sold at those sex shops but cost more than the pussy you are putting it in if you are downtown.

Turgid
10-17-20, 14:52
Seeking is now a prime target for e- whoring methods. These are computer hackers who use escort or dating sites and create tons of fake profiles to get the guys to send them money and gifts without meeting.............People who give money and gifts do so because it makes them feel good, I know people like this.

Ewe52
10-17-20, 15:19
I do not know for certain, but I believe it was a monger who tipped the police where to find him. I know that some mongers were definitely getting the word out to the girls warning about him.

As for "not a monger", I wish that was true. But to the outside world he is a monger. A group, especially one outside society's norm, is judged by its worst members, not its best.

I'm certain there are guys here who will be upset that a monger turned him in. They think we're all supposed to stick together. Fuck that. If some girl tells me a monger beat her up, I will explain to her the 2 options for making certain he doesn't beat anyone else up.

As Me Phi Me sang long ago "Not my brother, brother."So if some girl goes crying to you about something on another monger you have no evidence of. You'd at the drop of the hat go hurt another monger or ruin his life? 'Fuck that' everyone stay away from this simp guys.

Fun Luvr
10-17-20, 15:32
I just tried using my Schwab card at Banco Pichincha and it reported transaction not allowed. So far, it has not taken money from my account. I will try a couple of other banks later today and report whether success / failure.

Harry2
10-17-20, 16:04
Hey there! I've read a lot but still need a little info before I book a flight! Ha! I'm 40 why. O white guy looking to monger safely.

I don't speak Spanish. Does Colombia become a no-go without the language?

How dangerous is Medellin? I've been in many many countries but S. America seems a different beast! Is it possible to walk around during the day, maybe visit a casa, and have a 99% chance of getting home safe?

Are Colombian girls a little kinkier than most? Maybe a little BDSM. A little face-fucking. Is this possible here?

Is it safe enough to travel around the country? I'd love to take a bus over to the coast, maybe head over the border North. Am I going to have a problem?

What do girls think about taking videos / photos? No problem?

How much do I need to check for scammers? Is it likely to find a 'good girl' on FB or Tinder or whatever, without having to screen them a lot?

Looks like a lot of fun. Can't wait to get involved!

JjBee62
10-17-20, 17:44
I think anytime an American violates the law in a Foreign Country where a police report is filed, and it's a very violent act that results in a person going to the hospital, the local newspaper would pickup that story.

Thanks,If the victim of the alleged attack was a bank teller in Poblado or Usaquen, it would definitely be reported. A hooker? Not necessarily.

It's been brought to my attention the story may not be true. However, the moral of the story is valid. If you decide to beat up a hooker, bad things may come your way and your only hope is that the trouble comes wearing badges.

JjBee62
10-17-20, 17:53
People who give money and gifts do so because it makes them feel good, I know people like this.Nearly everything people do, good or bad, they do because it makes them feel good. When you get a girl to come over for a great rate, you feel good. The guy who scores a $110 round trip on Spirit, then gets bumped for a $300 voucher and a ticket on the next flight might feel good, or bad depending on what he values more. It's all tied up in the values of each person.

Member #4665
10-17-20, 17:56
I met another young shy woman on seeking chat. She wants someone to take her on a date, and then she'll make up her mind if she wants to get intimite.

She doesn't have the personality nor the looks to impose conditions, but she expects to get paid to go get pizza, and then she will still have the option to turn him down, after he already made an investment.

She should think things through before asking. I told her come to the bakery 5 minutes away from my place ( she can travel across the city, not me) buy yourself a juice and if you want to be my friend you can do that. of course she's paying her own taxi and her own juice. Duuumbooo.

Ahhh let the silly women be silly women.

JjBee62
10-17-20, 17:59
What would you say if I told you the story was completely made up?I would say the guy should tell his side of the story. I'm certainly willing to give him an unbiased (reasonably) hearing.

I would also say, again my focus on reporting the incident (with no identifying details) was to discourage the type of behavior the guy has been (perhaps falsely) accused of.

TresRios
10-17-20, 18:09
I can only vouch for the first one. Erika Munos. I first saw her a few times a couple years back. Saw her again about two months ago. Very thin not a lot of baby damage. Friendly girl and you'll have a good time.

I wouldn't call her a super star performer but I would bet you'll be satisfied with your cita.Excellent thanks. Can you say what she charges? What she does or doesn't do?

She strikes me as the girl next door type.

TR.

JjBee62
10-17-20, 18:19
I met another young shy woman on seeking chat. She wants someone to take her on a date, and then she'll make up her mind if she wants to get intimite.

She doesn't have the personality nor the looks to impose conditions, but she expects to get paid to go get pizza, and then she will still have the option to turn him down, after he already made an investment.

She should think things through before asking. I told her come to the bakery 5 minutes away from my place buy yourself a juice and if you want to be my friend you can do that. of course she's paying her own taxi and her own juice. Duuumbooo.

Ahhh let the silly women be silly women.That may be why so many use Facebook.

Hello. Are you available? I want to see you. How much do you want? I pay (whatever price you want). Is that okay? Yes I will give you 20 k for a taxi. Can you be here in 1 hour? Okay. I will see you in 2 hours.

(Hola. Estás disponible? Quiero verte. Cuanto quieres por un rato? Siempre pago (whatever). Está bien? Sí te daré 20 mil mas por un taxi. Puedes llegar acá en una hora? Claro. Entonces te veré en 2 horas.).

She'll show up, probably want to use the bathroom to freshen up, might come out in lingerie or just underwear. In less than 15 minutes she will be doing what you want. If she's enjoying your company she'll still be doing what you want 2 or 3 hours later. When she's done, give her the money and walk her to the door.

Tomorrow she'll send pictures of her friend and ask if you want a trio.

Incrociatore
10-17-20, 20:16
Which post? That area is generally fine. I don't recall people saying it is dangerous to not go there.If you do a search on the forum, you'll find the posts.

TresRios
10-17-20, 20:48
Simplier said than done given some of the Fayboo tales that other board members have posted.I have had no problem building a list on FB. Just need to get the first few started, then the gates will open. They will be sending you friend requests.

I started a new FB account 3 days ago and have over 200 contacts.

Find the gringos with lists, or chicas that have a lot of likes / comments from gringos.

Super easy.

TR.

Incrociatore
10-17-20, 20:58
I've walked all over La 70 and the surrounding streets at all hours. 3 times I saw potential problems, all involving the same guy, twice during the day. I had 3 guys attempt to rob me in El Centro, in the middle of a crowd in broad daylight. I saw 2 guys rob and beat a guy one night next to the Veracruz church.

No place is dangerous, until suddenly it is.

Going to walk around El Centro after midnight, with nothing to steal sounds like a good idea, if you're wanting to rate the Colombian healthcare system. You may need to rate it posthumously.

The flaw in your plan is the thieves don't know whether you have nothing to steal, or you're not giving them what they want. However, since you're obviously not a resident of El Centro, it seems unlikely they'll believe you have nothing. From about every report I've heard, including one from a girl I know in Milagro, when people refuse to give money, they get stabbed or shot.

As for the police, after about 9, they become scarce in El Centro.

Let us know how your experiment works out, or we can read about it elsewhere.If you have nothing with you, you have nothing. They can search you. You give them what you have. 50k for example, without any resistance, you show your pockets are empty and it's over. If you go there with your phone and 1 million, then they will pretend your phone and 1 million, but if you have 20 k for the taxi, they will take what you have. Or you think they are gone to cut in half and search if you have some money in your belly? Yesterday I didn't have my phone with me, and I was there with almost no cash. I was there in the dark, from 6 to 8:30. No one touched me. I tell you more, I was feeling more secure than in the afternoon, because less people, greater distance, I was much more in control. One guy approached me, he followed me for a 10/20 seconds, till I said him to fuck off. I never let him closer than 2 meters from me. I doubt the junkies of el centro have guns. Cartel has guns, not the junkies in el centro. If they had one, they would have sold to buy drugs. The risk to get robbed is real, but who gives a fuck if they still me 50000 COP, I don't really mind. You all speak about Medellin like you can't go out after 6, which is bullshit.

Nounce
10-17-20, 21:19
If you do a search on the forum, you'll find the posts.Robbery can happen almost anywhere. I guess you are generalizing a specific case as the norm.

ColombiaLover
10-17-20, 22:06
I am traveling to Medellin on Wednesday. So I did not want to deal with the drama of having a COVID test that was sent out to a lab. Having to hope I get the results back in time. So I managed to find a CVS in Orlando (about 45 minutes away) that had the rapid molecular test. I called the COVID 19 hotline for CVS and they assumed me if is a PCR test, not an antigen test. So I went and got my test today and 15 minutes later I was told I was negative. However, when I looked at the results that were sent to me, it described a "MOLECULAR POCT" test. From my understanding, a PCR test is a molecular test. But since the results says "POCT" and not "PCR" I suspect that the test will not be accepted. So, I've made another appointment with CVS for the PCR test that goes to the lab and once again I'll be waiting to see if I get my results in time. Very frustrating. What I've found is that most of the folks who give these tests are not very knowledgeable (and the web pages do not always give you clear information). So you really have to pay attention. Ugh.

Surfer500
10-17-20, 22:38
I am traveling to Medellin on Wednesday. So I did not want to deal with the drama of having a COVID test that was sent out to a lab. Having to hope I get the results back in time. So I managed to find a CVS in Orlando (about 45 minutes away) that had the rapid molecular test. I called the COVID 19 hotline for CVS and they assumed me if is a PCR test, not an antigen test. So I went and got my test today and 15 minutes later I was told I was negative. However, when I looked at the results that were sent to me, it described a "MOLECULAR POCT" test. From my understanding, a PCR test is a molecular test. But since the results says "POCT" and not "PCR" I suspect that the test will not be accepted. So, I've made another appointment with CVS for the PCR test that goes to the lab and once again I'll be waiting to see if I get my results in time. Very frustrating. What I've found is that most of the folks who give these tests are not very knowledgeable (and the web pages do not always give you clear information). So you really have to pay attention. Ugh.Excellent advice as in Southern California while researching places offering the PCR test, hidden in the fine print of one lab was what you described not being the true PCR test performed in a lab that Colombia is looking for. Found a place that if your tested by 8 AM in the morning they will have same day results and it's called the Molecular PCR Nasopharyngeal Swab at a cost of $275 USD for same day results.

Mojo Bandit
10-18-20, 00:42
If you do a search on the forum, you'll find the posts.Here are the official stats on robberies, a person is 3 times as likely to get robbed in El Centro as they are in Laureles or Poblado but that does not mean you are exempt in Laureles or Poblado it just means it is less likely to happen there. The most likely way is as described in this article and that has been described in posts here in this forum, It is by the passenger of a motorcycle. I think they actually have term for these guys in Colombia but I cannot remember what it is. Looking at just Laureles and Poblado the stats average out to be like 5 per day that means 15 per day in El centro on the average - so like Nounce said robbery can happen anywhere -
https://medellinguru.com/medellin-robbery/

According to this other article the motorcycle rider thing started as a means for hitman (a method that is still around) of the Escobar cartel (it also says that the person who thought of it was eventually assassinated in the same way) so that it would be easier to evade the police through traffic, but also robbers caught on to this method, In 2014 Medellin even passed an ordinance banning male passengers of certain age group on the back of motorcycles. "motorcycle assassinations decreased by 39 percent, Robberies of cars and of motorcycles by motorcycle riders each fell by nearly 30 percent. " I do not know if that law is still in effect.

https://www.insightcrime.org/news/brief/medellin-ban-male-motorcycle-passengers-hitmen/

Incrociatore
10-18-20, 02:00
I am traveling to Medellin on Wednesday. So I did not want to deal with the drama of having a COVID test that was sent out to a lab. Having to hope I get the results back in time. So I managed to find a CVS in Orlando (about 45 minutes away) that had the rapid molecular test. I called the COVID 19 hotline for CVS and they assumed me if is a PCR test, not an antigen test. So I went and got my test today and 15 minutes later I was told I was negative. However, when I looked at the results that were sent to me, it described a "MOLECULAR POCT" test. From my understanding, a PCR test is a molecular test. But since the results says "POCT" and not "PCR" I suspect that the test will not be accepted. So, I've made another appointment with CVS for the PCR test that goes to the lab and once again I'll be waiting to see if I get my results in time. Very frustrating. What I've found is that most of the folks who give these tests are not very knowledgeable (and the web pages do not always give you clear information). So you really have to pay attention. Ugh.You might get rejected. They don't know what a POCT is, and they aren't going to Google. Your test must be the PCR ones. And also it has to be not older than 96 hours. Also you don't want to explain what is a POCT, because probably you don't even know, and they don't care. Regulation says PCR, and PCR needs to be.

Member #4665
10-18-20, 02:26
How dangerous is Medellin? I've been in many many countries but S. America seems a different beast! Is it possible to walk around during the day, maybe visit a casa, and have a 99% chance of getting home safe?
It depends. Most locals they say they Stay safe because they don't wander around streets where there are druggies and cheap hoes. Stay in a safe neighborhood. If you visit massage parlor take the taxi walk from the taxi into the Establishment call taxi exit establishment and jump in the taxi. Research on YouTube as there is a worldwide phenomenon where Criminals slip substance into thee mongers drink. So just be aware and don't let anyone do that. Don't walk around with expensive cell phone. Just use an 80 euro android. For those concerned about the escorts, try to find some escorts that ccome from a bettter background and already have a little bit of money.Find an establishment with A reputation or get some recommendations of girls from friend.

Incrociatore
10-18-20, 03:05
Here are the official stats on robberies, a person is 3 times as likely to get robbed in El Centro as they are in Laureles or Poblado but that does not mean you are exempt in Laureles or Poblado it just means it is less likely to happen there. The most likely way is as described in this article and that has been described in posts here in this forum, It is by the passenger of a motorcycle. I think they actually have term for these guys in Colombia but I cannot remember what it is. Looking at just Laureles and Poblado the stats average out to be like 5 per day that means 15 per day in El centro on the average - so like Nounce said robbery can happen anywhere -
https://medellinguru.com/medellin-robbery/I read the article. But I also read this:

"Jeff is the founder and editor-in-chief of Medellin Guru. He first discovered Colombia back in 2006 and has traveled to all the major cities in Colombia. Jeff is fortunate to have lived over eight years in Medellín."

He has been robbed once in 8 years! I mean, statistically it's nothing really. A friend of mine in Turin has been robbed 3 times at the station by junkies using a syringe. 3 times in 2 years. Watching at the data the probability to get robbed in Laureles is really low. I'm sure it's much easier to get robbed en el centro at night. During the day there is so much police. I mean today I have seen at least 20 soldiers with automatic rifles.

And, look at him, he is a the perfect target. You can see he is a gringo from 1 km, and you know he will not do any resistance. Robberies happen all the time in all the big cities. You can't be safe in New York, London or Paris.

There were over 40 thousand robbery offences recorded by the Metropolitan Police in London in 2019/20, an increase of almost six thousand when compared with the previous year, and a peak for this type of offence in the provided time period. Did you read? 40 thousands. Yes, London is bit, but it's still much more than in Medellin with all the neighborhoods combined. In Laureles it happens not even 1. 5 times a day. Why it should be me? Most likely is going to be a monger from USA or Canada, with blue eyes, in his 60.

My point is: play smart. Leave the wallet at home, you don't need it. Leave the passport and any other ID at home. Keep your phone in the front pocket, and bring yourself the credit card only when you need it to get money from the ATM. Otherwise use Apple Pay or Google Pay, which here don't even know what is, but it works. Also, if you are going to el centro don't go with your phone, they are going to pickpocket you easily. Bring just the money for a fuck or two, and the taxi. If they rob you, you lose 30 dollars, which is not a big deal.

Zeos1
10-18-20, 04:18
If you have nothing with you, you have nothing. They can search you. You give them what you have. 50k for example, without any resistance, you show your pockets are empty and it's over. If you go there with your phone and 1 million, then they will pretend your phone and 1 million, but if you have 20 k for the taxi, they will take what you have. Or you think they are gone to cut in half and search if you have some money in your belly? Yesterday I didn't have my phone with me, and I was there with almost no cash. I was there in the dark, from 6 to 8:30. No one touched me. I tell you more, I was feeling more secure than in the afternoon, because less people, greater distance, I was much more in control. One guy approached me, he followed me for a 10/20 seconds, till I said him to fuck off. I never let him closer than 2 meters from me. I doubt the junkies of el centro have guns. Cartel has guns, not the junkies in el centro. If they had one, they would have sold to buy drugs. The risk to get robbed is real, but who gives a fuck if they still me 50000 COP, I don't really mind. You all speak about Medellin like you can't go out after 6, which is bullshit.LOL. You can go out after 6, and that's not what he's talking about. You won't necessarily get a chance to show them your pockets or have a discussion about what you have or don't have. That can be anywhere. And people get robbed and killed for nothing some of the time. It isn't the junkies you have to worry about, it's the criminals. And there are lots, and lots of guns too.

I saw a map once of the street gangs, and the higher level gangs that control the street gangs. For Medellin. There were hundreds of street level gangs, and a number of higher level organizations they may have to answer to. They don't generally want wars. That gets too much attention, as in the past with Escobar, etc. But one offs are not a problem. You don't want to be one of those. You tell someone to f off. Maybe they understand you maybe they don't. But they get the picture. But you do that to the wrong one. You're dead. They don't have any problem at all with that.

In a city where you can hire a hit man for much less than $100 US it's not all safe and secure.

Kazeu
10-18-20, 04:38
Went down to el centro tonight. First went to Barra Executiva not packed. A good ratio of girls to guys maybe 15 girls and 20 or so guys. The girls were mostly 6's and 7's and not really shaped the right way for me. Too much ass on most of these girls. There was 1 girl who had a great bottle shaped body. She wore white jeans and a floral top which bared her midriff. She must have noticed me staring at her. As she passed by me she caressed my arm and then took position not far behind and to the left of me. I turned around and asked motioned for her to approach. She said her name was claudia. Unfortunately as she got closer, I got a better look at her face which revealed that she was much older than I originally thought. I would guess she was mid 30's at least. But her body still looked good. I asked her how old she was, and she replied how old do you want me to be. In my head, I thought to myself. About 15 years younger than you are. I laughed at her response and asked her how much it was to go upstairs. She quoted me 120 k. A little steep for for her and for any of the girls really.

I saw 3 obvious gringos there besides myself. 2 Black americans and 1 White guy. So foreigners are flowing back in!

I left after about 25 minutes as the dancing just wasn't doing it for me and none of the girls interested me. Walked about 150 yards over to Conejitas Grill Show. The place was packed. I couldn't even find an empty table although the waiter assured me there was a place to sit. I just took a read of the place before leaving. There must have been max 10 girls and at least 50 guys and more guys coming in. Not a good ratio. The quality of the girls was noticibly better than Barra Executiva though. I saw some mid 7's. No one stunning but some that I would do. I only spent a couple minutes there. I'll have to come back on a less busy night.

Incrociatore
10-18-20, 04:52
It depends. Most locals they say they Stay safe because they don't wander around streets where there are druggies and cheap hoes. Stay in a safe neighborhood. If you visit massage parlor take the taxi walk from the taxi into the Establishment call taxi exit establishment and jump in the taxi. Research on YouTube as there is a worldwide phenomenon where Criminals slip substance into thee mongers drink. So just be aware and don't let anyone do that. Don't walk around with expensive cell phone. Just use an 80 euro android. For those concerned about the escorts, try to find some escorts that ccome from a bettter background and already have a little bit of money.Find an establishment with A reputation or get some recommendations of girls from friend.My 80 Euro Android wasn't even working. It has been a pain, a waste of money and time to configure. I'm not using anymore. I just leave my expensive phone at home when I go to el centro because I don't need it. And when you get used to the neighborhood you can leave the phone at home all the time. Just be careful and always on alert, but go where you want, that's my advice.

Incrociatore
10-18-20, 05:05
How much do you offer on Facebook, and usually, based on the level, how much do they accept?

Badoo didn't work at all. Few matches and girls most interested in something real than sex. The only real interesting contact I had it's not in Medellin. Waste of time. In Facebook, in a couple of hours I connected with 15 girls. I added a lot of girls, so I suppose by tomorrow I might have 50 contacts. Many are hot girls, some really hot. I started from a plastic surgeon page, then once I got friend with an hot chica, I added her girlfriends. I contacted one for test (not hot and in her 30), offered 50 for 2 hours and she asked for 100, oral natural. It looks way too much. I got a deal with a girl I met en el centro which I fucked today: 140 for the entire day. I would define this girl 7.5.

Usually what do you offer for 8, 9, 10 levels?

I wouldn't ask for a 7, because you can find a 7 en el centro. You need to search very well, do a test drive, and eventually make the offer.

Paulie97
10-18-20, 05:10
You won't necessarily get a chance to show them your pockets or have a discussion about what you have or don't have.It's amazing how many people assume that robberies must come down that way, face to face with some kind of discussion. They might just whip his ass, rifle his pockets, pull off his shoes and his socks, and if nothing, kick him in the head for good measure as they have to go find another victim. Some people should have their passports detained for their own protection.

Blakman
10-18-20, 12:20
Laureles is casa and private apartment heavens. Being a cheapy charlie and into fitness I chose to walk rather than take a cab. Never once felt threaten. From la 70 to la 80 into LOS colores, estadio area. By the way remember those locations. Guess what, often I wore shorts, a hat, white shoes LOL. Members don't recommend LOL. I did not walk around at night time though. Then I suggest a cab cause its so damn cheap. Centro is not my cup of tea. But really its just an ordinary busy central business district. Whats noticeable is the grimey and disgusting prostitutes mixed up with the harden hookers forced into prostituting or there because of drugs and desperation. Walking there occasionally in day time is not bad but I don't see it as a go to spot. I am actually shocked by guys who glow about the area. Having said this I do want to check out the strip clubs in centro just to say I experienced it. Medellin is cupcake city to me. Sweet and safe


It depends. Most locals they say they Stay safe because they don't wander around streets where there are druggies and cheap hoes. Stay in a safe neighborhood. If you visit massage parlor take the taxi walk from the taxi into the Establishment call taxi exit establishment and jump in the taxi. Research on YouTube as there is a worldwide phenomenon where Criminals slip substance into thee mongers drink. So just be aware and don't let anyone do that. Don't walk around with expensive cell phone. Just use an 80 euro android. For those concerned about the escorts, try to find some escorts that ccome from a bettter background and already have a little bit of money.Find an establishment with A reputation or get some recommendations of girls from friend..

Kelso1
10-18-20, 13:05
I am traveling to Medellin on Wednesday. So I did not want to deal with the drama of having a COVID test that was sent out to a lab. Having to hope I get the results back in time. So I managed to find a CVS in Orlando (about 45 minutes away) that had the rapid molecular test. I called the COVID 19 hotline for CVS and they assumed me if is a PCR test, not an antigen test. So I went and got my test today and 15 minutes later I was told I was negative. However, when I looked at the results that were sent to me, it described a "MOLECULAR POCT" test. From my understanding, a PCR test is a molecular test. But since the results says "POCT" and not "PCR" I suspect that the test will not be accepted. So, I've made another appointment with CVS for the PCR test that goes to the lab and once again I'll be waiting to see if I get my results in time. Very frustrating. What I've found is that most of the folks who give these tests are not very knowledgeable (and the web pages do not always give you clear information). So you really have to pay attention. Ugh.I have been to Colombia many times. Always as easy as pie to do the trip.

Now you have to jump thru hoops to go there plus endue stress to hope your test gets to you on time and the form is correct. The cost of this test is almost as much as the airfare RT from Miami.

After that places you used to go to are closed or cut in half.

I jumped thru hoops when I was drafted into the army. I jumped thru hoops when I was employed. I jumped thru hoops to get a divorce. No mas. I can wait till things get back to normal. I think a drug to beat this virus is close by.

Turgid
10-18-20, 15:16
If you have nothing with you, you have nothing. They can search you. You give them what you have. 50k for example, without any resistance, you show your pockets are empty and it's over..............I have known of victims (not in Colombia) who had nothing on them but were stabbed by the robber in a fit of pique because they did not have anything to take. I will not take any chances.

Fun Luvr
10-18-20, 15:21
I am traveling to Medellin on Wednesday. So I did not want to deal with the drama of having a COVID test that was sent out to a lab. Having to hope I get the results back in time. So I managed to find a CVS in Orlando (about 45 minutes away) that had the rapid molecular test. I called the COVID 19 hotline for CVS and they assumed me if is a PCR test, not an antigen test. So I went and got my test today and 15 minutes later I was told I was negative. However, when I looked at the results that were sent to me, it described a "MOLECULAR POCT" test. From my understanding, a PCR test is a molecular test. But since the results says "POCT" and not "PCR" I suspect that the test will not be accepted. So, I've made another appointment with CVS for the PCR test that goes to the lab and once again I'll be waiting to see if I get my results in time. Very frustrating. What I've found is that most of the folks who give these tests are not very knowledgeable (and the web pages do not always give you clear information). So you really have to pay attention. Ugh.There is a place in Orlando called Covidtestingllc.com. They do 24-hour PCR tests. There are no appointments. I got the test about 8:45 am and received the results at 11 pm that night. If you have insurance, the cost is $35. All the information is on their website. I got there an hour before they opened, and was the fourth vehicle in line. Actually, they have six testing lanes, and I was first in the fourth lane. They are very efficient, I highly recommend. I also got a test at an urgent care place in Orlando, but was not sure I would get the results in time because they send the test to a lab. I received the results in two days. An additional note, neither result stated the word "Negative"; both stated "Not detected". I traveled from Orlando to Medellin last Friday, so I know the test results they provide are what is needed.

Don't forget to fill out the questionnaire on the Colombia Health Minister site the day before you travel. I forgot about it until I was in Panama. Hastily, I filled it out a little over an hour before I arrived in Medellin, and it was accepted.

Fun Luvr
10-18-20, 15:35
I just tried using my Schwab card at Banco Pichincha and it reported transaction not allowed. So far, it has not taken money from my account. I will try a couple of other banks later today and report whether success / failure.Following up, I went to a Scotiabank Colpatria and withdrew 900 mil with my Schwab card without a problem. Their initial screen only lists 20 mil, so you have to select "Other amount", then you get more options. They charge no ATM fees.

Surfer500
10-18-20, 15:46
It depends. Most locals they say they Stay safe because they don't wander around streets where there are druggies and cheap hoes. Stay in a safe neighborhood. If you visit massage parlor take the taxi walk from the taxi into the Establishment call taxi exit establishment and jump in the taxi. Research on YouTube as there is a worldwide phenomenon where Criminals slip substance into thee mongers drink. So just be aware and don't let anyone do that. Don't walk around with expensive cell phone. Just use an 80 euro android. For those concerned about the escorts, try to find some escorts that ccome from a bettter background and already have a little bit of money.Find an establishment with A reputation or get some recommendations of girls from friend.Your advice sounds very generic, almost applicable to anywhere in the world, yet not totally applicable to Colombia, and Euro's aren't used in Colombia.

Knowledge
10-18-20, 15:57
Blakman,

It's great you are getting out and about without incident, but stay woke.


Laureles is casa and private apartment heavens. Being a cheapy charlie and into fitness I chose to walk rather than take a cab. Never once felt threaten. From la 70 to la 80 into LOS colores, estadio area. By the way remember those locations. Guess what, often I wore shorts, a hat, white shoes LOL. Members don't recommend LOL. I did not walk around at night time though. Then I suggest a cab cause its so damn cheap. Centro is not my cup of tea. But really its just an ordinary busy central business district. Whats noticeable is the grimey and disgusting prostitutes mixed up with the harden hookers forced into prostituting or there because of drugs and desperation. Walking there occasionally in day time is not bad but I don't see it as a go to spot. I am actually shocked by guys who glow about the area. Having said this I do want to check out the strip clubs in centro just to say I experienced it. Medellin is cupcake city to me. Sweet and safe

Wolf662
10-18-20, 16:05
. First went to Barra Executiva not packed. A good ratio of girls to guys maybe 15 girls and 20 or so guys. The girls were mostly 6's and 7's and not really shaped the right way for me. Too much ass on most of these girls. There was 1 girl who had a great bottle shaped body. She wore white jeans and a floral top which bared her midriff. She must have noticed me staring at her. As she passed by me she caressed my arm and then took position not far behind and to the left of me. I turned around and asked motioned for her to approach. She said her name was claudia. Unfortunately as she got closer, I got a better look at her face which revealed that she was much older than I originally thought. I would guess she was mid 30's at least. But her body still looked good. I asked her how old she was, and she replied how old do you want me to be. In my head, I thought to myself. About 15 years younger than you are. I laughed at her response and asked her how much it was to go upstairs. She quoted me 120 k. A little steep for for her and for any of the girls really.Barra Ejectiva / Conejitas girls are usually in the 80 k range, try offering that next time instead of asking her a price. Usually more girls on then that but you might have been there too early.

If Conejitas is packed it gets hot, try to find a seat along the back wall under the air con vents. I do like the rooms upstairs better at Conejitas, the Barra Ejectivas ones can be too dark and hot for my taste. Also when in Barra Ejectiva it worth walking thru the next door strip club Maracaibo (assuming it has reopened) just in case, some times some hotties.

Surfer500
10-18-20, 16:05
LOL. You can go out after 6, and that's not what he's talking about. You won't necessarily get a chance to show them your pockets or have a discussion about what you have or don't have. That can be anywhere. And people get robbed and killed for nothing some of the time. It isn't the junkies you have to worry about, it's the criminals. And there are lots, and lots of guns too.

I saw a map once of the street gangs, and the higher level gangs that control the street gangs. For Medellin. There were hundreds of street level gangs, and a number of higher level organizations they may have to answer to. They don't generally want wars. That gets too much attention, as in the past with Escobar, etc. But one offs are not a problem. You don't want to be one of those. You tell someone to f off. Maybe they understand you maybe they don't. But they get the picture. But you do that to the wrong one. You're dead. They don't have any problem at all with that.

In a city where you can hire a hit man for much less than $100 US it's not all safe and secure.What a lot of guys don't realize which you have posted about, is how brazen the thieves can be in Colombia. A lot of guys think a thief with a knife will brandish it, threaten you, and demand your belongings. Doesn't always work that way, I know of two gringos where the assailants walked up to them and tried to slit holes in their pants pocket with nothing being said. Neither one of them got cut or hurt and were able to run away, albeit both of them were obvious gringos and stuck out like a sore thumb with a big "X" on their backs.

Mr Enternational
10-18-20, 16:57
Don't forget to fill out the questionnaire on the Colombia Health Minister site the day before you travel. I forgot about it until I was in Panama. Hastily, I filled it out a little over an hour before I arrived in Medellin, and it was accepted.Thanks for your post. After reading it I went looking on the health minister and immigration websites but could not find anything. Then I asked some buddies about it and they sent me the link.

https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf

Combo
10-18-20, 18:23
LOL. You can go out after 6, and that's not what he's talking about. You won't necessarily get a chance to show them your pockets or have a discussion about what you have or don't have. That can be anywhere. And people get robbed and killed for nothing some of the time. It isn't the junkies you have to worry about, it's the criminals. And there are lots, and lots of guns too.


In a city where you can hire a hit man for much less than $100 US it's not all safe and secure.That really puts things in perspective! $100!

These things generally happen extremely quickly. I've witnessed two muggings in Centro and the thing was 10 seconds or less. No real time to react.

Blakman
10-18-20, 18:41
Some days during the week they give specials for a day. 20 to 30 k difference.


Great report over in the Stupid Shit section by a new poster that has boots on the ground. I think Admin saw where the guy said rant in the first paragraph and just threw it over in that section..

Incrociatore
10-18-20, 19:16
It's amazing how many people assume that robberies must come down that way, face to face with some kind of discussion. They might just whip his ass, rifle his pockets, pull off his shoes and his socks, and if nothing, kick him in the head for good measure as they have to go find another victim. Some people should have their passports detained for their own protection.It looks like you are all expert here about robberies and crimes. Once again, if you are so afraid, stay home. I do what I fuckin want and I take my risks. You should all stop to scary people, because crimes happen all over the world. A guy run over a police officer just today in London. And today in a city in Italy, one of the most secure, a guy opened the fire with a stolen gun after a fight, 5 got shot, one is serious. So please stop, and I say to everyone of you, to scare the shit out of people, because 1) you don't know a shit; 2) crimes happen everywhere, especially in US.

Black Page
10-18-20, 19:26
What a lot of guys don't realize which you have posted about, is how brazen the thieves can be in Colombia. A lot of guys think a thief with a knife will brandish it, threaten you, and demand your belongings. Doesn't always work that way, I know of two gringos where the assailants walked up to them and tried to slit holes in their pants pocket with nothing being said. Neither one of them got cut or hurt and were able to run away, albeit both of them were obvious gringos and stuck out like a sore thumb with a big "X" on their backs.I have seen with my own eyes down the Metro Prado a guy approached from the back by two thugs. They paired him from both sides suddenly, kept him, took everything, pushed him away. I think they had a knife, but I did not approach to know more.
In such a case, I would not resist and I would let them take anything they find.
Note that people around did not do anything, just commented "ladrones..."

I have seen a poor man with backpack assaulted by a swarm of a dozen street kids. They took everything even the shoes in 30 seconds.

Ewe52
10-18-20, 19:39
I am traveling to Medellin on Wednesday. So I did not want to deal with the drama of having a COVID test that was sent out to a lab. Having to hope I get the results back in time. So I managed to find a CVS in Orlando (about 45 minutes away) that had the rapid molecular test. I called the COVID 19 hotline for CVS and they assumed me if is a PCR test, not an antigen test. So I went and got my test today and 15 minutes later I was told I was negative. However, when I looked at the results that were sent to me, it described a "MOLECULAR POCT" test. From my understanding, a PCR test is a molecular test. But since the results says "POCT" and not "PCR" I suspect that the test will not be accepted. So, I've made another appointment with CVS for the PCR test that goes to the lab and once again I'll be waiting to see if I get my results in time. Very frustrating. What I've found is that most of the folks who give these tests are not very knowledgeable (and the web pages do not always give you clear information). So you really have to pay attention. Ugh.So a PCR test is a RNA genetic test. Anything that says they tested for multi ways is usually a PCR test it may have included the rapid test too. POCT means the samples weren't tested on site where they were collected but an accredited lab its an insurance a and government payout.

JjBee62
10-18-20, 19:46
So if some girl goes crying to you about something on another monger you have no evidence of. You'd at the drop of the hat go hurt another monger or ruin his life? 'Fuck that' everyone stay away from this simp guys.My apologies to the admins. You guys are definitely getting too much work moving everything to the Stupid Shit thread. You really don't get enough recognition for your efforts.

I can see you're new here, and by your name I see you prefer sex with sheep. Whatever works for you.

You bypassed a lot of landscape to get to your destination.

First, you're assuming I would have no evidence. I realize, freshly arriving from your latest InCel (involuntarily celibate- a group of whiney ass boys who cry because they can't get laid and compensate by calling men, who can get laid, "simp. ") pity party, you don't know much about. Really anything at all. I get messages of personal tragedy every week from some girl in Medellin. Usually it's a simple RFM (request for money). On rare occasions I will provide some help. Two weeks ago I helped a girl recover her wallet, which she had forgotten at a resort 3 hours from home.

If it's a situation where I'm willing to offer my assistance, I require compelling evidence. Which is why RFMs usually fail. In the case of a woman getting beaten bad enough to end up in the hospital, there will at least be pictures, plus a doctor's report.

If the woman is sending this information to me, it's because she's one of the few women who feel a deeper connection with me. If you ever get out from under mother's thumb, you might experience something most mongers know. Some girls you make a connection with. They stay in contact, but never ask for anything. They send messages when good things happen in their life, or just to check up on you. They consider you to be a special friend.

So now the situation is, I have evidence, plus the word of someone who I know, versus someone I know nothing about. Sorry, but I'm going to tell her to call the police and I'm going to tell her exactly what information to give them.

Here's the part you trailer park commandos never seem to understand. If some gringo beats the crap out of some Colombian hooker, the hooker is either going to the police, or she's going to her uncle, brother, cousin, father's friend. Whoever she knows that knows how to take care of the situation. And if the guy is still around a few days later, his woman beating days will come to an end. 6 months later someone will start finding the pieces.

When the police in Colombia go to arrest a rapist, or anyone who commits violence against women and children, they send a whole riot squad. Because the people don't want the guy to go to Colombian prison and get off easily. They would rather beat the guy to death.

You think a gringo who beats up hookers is going to get the key to the city?

Nounce
10-18-20, 19:53
I have seen a poor man with backpack assaulted by a swarm of a dozen street kids. They took everything even the shoes in 30 seconds.I have seen something similar. Someone was saying he gave middle finger to the trans at Veracruz church recently. I guess he is joking. If it were real, I think he did not realize if one of them choose to react, the others may follow like a swarm of bees to attack him.

Ewe52
10-18-20, 19:55
I have seen with my own eyes down the Metro Prado a guy approached from the back by two thugs. They paired him from both sides suddenly, kept him, took everything, pushed him away. I think they had a knife, but I did not approach to know more.
In such a case, I would not resist and I would let them take anything they find.
Note that people around did not do anything, just commented "ladrones..."

I have seen a poor man with backpack assaulted by a swarm of a dozen street kids. They took everything even the shoes in 30 seconds.I'm just curious no one has ever gotten robbed in the States? How do you handle any densely populated areas? With some caution.

Gringo Trooper
10-18-20, 19:56
In such a case, I would not resist and I would let them take anything they find.That's the best thing to do. So, I'm with you man.

I love how we all are likely scaring crap out of the lurkers on the forum, who have never been to Colombia. Oh well, more chicas for us LOL!

Black Page
10-18-20, 20:11
Someone was saying he gave middle finger to the trans at Veracruz church recently.A very bad idea. I would call it "an excess of confidence". You know, you read here and there Centro is not dangerous, then someone believes it and gets harmed.

JjBee62
10-18-20, 20:16
If you have nothing with you, you have nothing. They can search you. You give them what you have. 50k for example, without any resistance, you show your pockets are empty and it's over. If you go there with your phone and 1 million, then they will pretend your phone and 1 million, but if you have 20 k for the taxi, they will take what you have. Or you think they are gone to cut in half and search if you have some money in your belly? Yesterday I didn't have my phone with me, and I was there with almost no cash. I was there in the dark, from 6 to 8:30. No one touched me. I tell you more, I was feeling more secure than in the afternoon, because less people, greater distance, I was much more in control. One guy approached me, he followed me for a 10/20 seconds, till I said him to fuck off. I never let him closer than 2 meters from me. I doubt the junkies of el centro have guns. Cartel has guns, not the junkies in el centro. If they had one, they would have sold to buy drugs. The risk to get robbed is real, but who gives a fuck if they still me 50000 COP, I don't really mind. You all speak about Medellin like you can't go out after 6, which is bullshit.I don't speak that way. There is literally not a single time of the day when I haven't been walking in Medellin. I've walked from El Centro to Laureles after 10 pm. I've walked the length of Poblado after 4 am. I've walked around carrying 6 million pesos (furniture shopping) along with my $1,000 laptop. I've walked Bello, Manrique and Paris. I averaged 50 miles walking a week for a year. I have no problems walking around or being out after 6 pm.

You don't seem to understand how robberies work in Medellin.

2 guys come around the corner on a motorcycle and see someone walking alone. They stop. The passenger is already pointing a gun at you. As he approaches you, the driver pulls a gun. If you run, they shoot. If you don't immediately start handing stuff over, they shoot. They don't spend 5 minutes negotiating or searching you. 5 seconds after the motorcycle stops, it's driving away. You're either standing there with empty pockets, or you're lying there bleeding. If they have knives instead of guns, the results are the same.

It's hard to find a chica who hasn't been robbed multiple times. It's hard to find a chica who doesn't know someone who was killed by the robbers. They get killed for 1 of 2 reasons. Either they resisted, or they had nothing to steal.

You seem not to understand the situation. You are not a Colombian. Everyone in Colombia knows you aren't a Colombian. If you're in El Centro and you're not a Colombian, everyone knows you have money. Even if you're just walking around with 50 k and no phone, they know you have money.

Now you're facing 2 guys with guns or knives, they're panicked, because they know they need to get your money and get out quick and you expect them to listen calmly while you explain why you're only carrying 50 k? That's like going to Pamplona and explaining to the bulls that you don't eat meat.

If you want to go walking the deserted streets of El Centro after midnight, just to prove your point, at least carry enough to keep from getting killed.

Kafka
10-18-20, 20:16
It's not dangerous if you know what you aredoing. If you walk around like Elmer Fudd like I did it is dangerous.


A very bad idea. I would call it "an excess of confidence". You know, you read here and there Centro is not dangerous, then someone believes it and gets harmed.

JjBee62
10-18-20, 20:19
Here are the official stats on robberies, a person is 3 times as likely to get robbed in El Centro as they are in Laureles or Poblado but that does not mean you are exempt in Laureles or Poblado it just means it is less likely to happen there. The most likely way is as described in this article and that has been described in posts here in this forum, It is by the passenger of a motorcycle. I think they actually have term for these guys in Colombia but I cannot remember what it is. Looking at just Laureles and Poblado the stats average out to be like 5 per day that means 15 per day in El centro on the average - so like Nounce said robbery can happen anywhere -
https://medellinguru.com/medellin-robbery/

According to this other article the motorcycle rider thing started as a means for hitman (a method that is still around) of the Escobar cartel (it also says that the person who thought of it was eventually assassinated in the same way) so that it would be easier to evade the police through traffic, but also robbers caught on to this method, In 2014 Medellin even passed an ordinance banning male passengers of certain age group on the back of motorcycles. "motorcycle assassinations decreased by 39 percent, Robberies of cars and of motorcycles by motorcycle riders each fell by nearly 30 percent. " I do not know if that law is still in effect.

https://www.insightcrime.org/news/brief/medellin-ban-male-motorcycle-passengers-hitmen/Everyone in Medellin knows 2 guys on a motorcycle spells trouble.

JjBee62
10-18-20, 20:28
I read the article. But I also read this:

"Jeff is the founder and editor-in-chief of Medellin Guru. He first discovered Colombia back in 2006 and has traveled to all the major cities in Colombia. Jeff is fortunate to have lived over eight years in Medelln."

He has been robbed once in 8 years! I mean, statistically it's nothing really. A friend of mine in Turin has been robbed 3 times at the station by junkies using a syringe. 3 times in 2 years. Watching at the data the probability to get robbed in Laureles is really low. I'm sure it's much easier to get robbed en el centro at night. During the day there is so much police. I mean today I have seen at least 20 soldiers with automatic rifles.

And, look at him, he is a the perfect target. You can see he is a gringo from 1 km, and you know he will not do any resistance. Robberies happen all the time in all the big cities. You can't be safe in New York, London or Paris.

There were over 40 thousand robbery offences recorded by the Metropolitan Police in London in 2019/20, an increase of almost six thousand when compared with the previous year, and a peak for this type of offence in the provided time period. Did you read? 40 thousands. Yes, London is bit, but it's still much more than in Medellin with all the neighborhoods combined. In Laureles it happens not even 1. 5 times a day. Why it should be me? Most likely is going to be a monger from USA or Canada, with blue eyes, in his 60.At least 90% of robberies in Medellin go unreported. Instead of basing your opinion on the experience of 1 gringo, ask the chicas how many times they've been robbed. Ask how many cell phones they have had stolen. Ask how many people they know who have been stabbed or shot.

Your point about only carrying what you can afford to lose is a good one.

Your thoughts about what will happen if you don't have anything to steal are potentially fatal.

Blakman
10-18-20, 20:53
Where a small percent of violence gets over publicized to give vast contrast of what the community is really like. Theres 365 days in a year.


It's not dangerous if you know what you aredoing. If you walk around like Elmer Fudd like I did it is dangerous..

PolloNegro
10-18-20, 21:08
I will continue to tell any monger who wants to venture into Park Botero, Vera Cruz, and Park Berrios, have your wits about you. I have been in Medellin for 8 months, Centro is the place that I spend most of my time, if there was ever a target to rob, they would have robbed me by now. Do not make yourself a target, I can only give you warnings, if you have no street sense and you have never been in a scuffle, stay away from Centro at the current time. I have met about 8 Mongers in the past 8 months and everyone of them were older than me and everyone of them were not happy with what Centro offered them. If you know you want 18-20 year skinny chics who could pass for European, please stick with the agencies. I will leave it at that, you mongers know who you are and what you want, Centro may not be the place for you if you have very specific wants and needs, and the mongers I have met, really were particular on age, look, and weight! Centro is very dangerous if you do not speak Spanish, you have no street sense, and you are in Centro alone. You have heard my speech, to each their own! Pollo Negro is out!

PolloNegro
10-18-20, 21:19
And continue to take the wrong route regardless. If you are in Centro and you are not able to spend $13.00 usd on sex, my suggestion is just stay away from the park, I have seen guys tell me straight up that they will not pay any girl in the park $50,000 pesos, but turn around and complain that the chic at the casa was horrible for $60,000 pesos, I telling you now, you are giving foreigners a bad name when you are too cheap to spend $13.00 usd on the girls, your choice, your money, but you know right from wrong. Pollo Negro is out!

Member #4665
10-18-20, 21:47
Hey guys the locals in Colombia get Robbed too. It's not just the tourist. If There is a higher incidence of foreigners getting robbed, It could be, but I'm not aware. It's probably because the thief knows tourist usually have money to spend.

If some thief stops me in the street just give him the wallet and the phone. In all honesty I think the criminal will be happy with 50,000. Practically nobody walks around with more money unless they just came out of the ATM Right after payday. wORST-CASE SCENARIO give the assailant you shoes or something.

There are some other Colombian scams:

-be careful after leaving the ATM. Some criminal may be waiting for you and will ask the Victim for all the cash They just withdrew.

-Don't wear a watch and don't take your phone out in public like it's your girlfriend or something. Keep your cheap watch in your pocket.

-Don't wear any cheap hippie bracelets because people may think it's an expensive bracelet and try to steal it from you.Make sure at least the bracelet is just s string without anything yellow or Silver.

- If you go to a bar they may spike your drink take a taxi to yoour place get you to give them all your belongings and then they will leave you sleeping in some park. The victims wake up without Shoes. According to the nnewspaper.

-If you're driving a car don't swing your arm outside your window they will burn you with a cigarette and when you say ouch and reach for the pain with your other arm they will take your watch. Actually this 1 may be urban myth?

Tourist can stay safe and nothing will happen to. Just take precaution and don't do anything stupid that the locals would not do.

Surfer500
10-18-20, 21:58
It looks like you are all expert here about robberies and crimes. Once again, if you are so afraid, stay home. I do what I fuckin want and I take my risks. You should all stop to scary people, because crimes happen all over the world. A guy run over a police officer just today in London. And today in a city in Italy, one of the most secure, a guy opened the fire with a stolen gun after a fight, 5 got shot, one is serious. So please stop, and I say to everyone of you, to scare the shit out of people, because 1) you don't know a shit; 2) crimes happen everywhere, especially in US.Perhaps you ought to look at all of these posts in a different light. It's not that the board members with lot's of time spent on the ground in Medellin are trying to scare anyone with what they have witnessed / experienced, but more to warn others of the dangers that lurk, and hopefully provide some advice and things to be aware of so that other board members avoid becoming a victim.

Lucky Nuts
10-18-20, 22:46
The location of your home would not be difficult to discover via that number. That doesn't necessarily matter but we all need to aware.Agreed the FBI woul be able to locate my anonymous tracphone using triangulation. But I'm not worried about scammers in foreign countires.


Laugh now! But just wait until someone hacks in and you wake up in the morning with frozen nuts.Shit I would need to change my name to Frozen Nuts LOL. Good one JjB. For anyone seriously paranoid about giving out your whatsapp number just get a 5 minute SIM card. I've done this as well with my real telephone. Walk into the phone shop next to the church on 43 & calle 10 and buy a SIM card without any data plan for a couple dollars. Load whatsapp and get it verified via text message. As soon as your whatsapp is up and running pull out that SIM card and throw it away. You are now anonymous and can give your whatsapp number to anyone without hesitation.

The real point I was originally trying to make is that I would never use my own normal USA phone number for whatsapp. Not saying it's a big mistake to do so but by using other phone numbers it provides another layer of privacy.

Besides that I'd have to put up with messages from my friends at home asking for pictures of the girls I'm meeting. I prefer to not be disturbed by such requests during my travels.

Ewe52
10-19-20, 00:12
Hey guys the locals in Colombia get Robbed too. It's not just the tourist. If There is a higher incidence of foreigners getting robbed, It could be, but I'm not aware. It's probably because the thief knows tourist usually have money to spend.

If some thief stops me in the street just give him the wallet and the phone. In all honesty I think the criminal will be happy with 50,000. Practically nobody walks around with more money unless they just came out of the ATM Right after payday. wORST-CASE SCENARIO give the assailant you shoes or something.

There are some other Colombian scams:

-be careful after leaving the ATM. Some criminal may be waiting for you and will ask the Victim for all the cash They just withdrew.

-Don't wear a watch and don't take your phone out in public like it's your girlfriend or something. Keep your cheap watch in your pocket.

-Don't wear any cheap hippie bracelets because people may think it's an expensive bracelet and try to steal it from you.Make sure at least the bracelet is just s string without anything yellow or Silver..One of my girls said her watch was taken riding the metro when the train stopped two guys leaving trapped her arm stripped off the watch and ran off. All happened I'm seconds from what I was told.

Incrociatore
10-19-20, 00:37
I don't speak that way. There is literally not a single time of the day when I haven't been walking in Medellin. I've walked from El Centro to Laureles after 10 pm. I've walked the length of Poblado after 4 am. I've walked around carrying 6 million pesos (furniture shopping) along with my $1,000 laptop. I've walked Bello, Manrique and Paris. I averaged 50 miles walking a week for a year. I have no problems walking around or being out after 6 pm.

You don't seem to understand how robberies work in Medellin.

2 guys come around the corner on a motorcycle and see someone walking alone. They stop. The passenger is already pointing a gun at you. As he approaches you, the driver pulls a gun. If you run, they shoot. If you don't immediately start handing stuff over, they shoot. They don't spend 5 minutes negotiating or searching you. 5 seconds after the motorcycle stops, it's driving away. You're either standing there with empty pockets, or you're lying there bleeding. If they have knives instead of guns, the results are the same..So your point is that I should carry my phone and 1 million so if they rob me, they are going to be happy and they leave me alone? Because this is what you have just said. Instead I'm doing the exact opposite. I'm not carrying my phone and I'm carrying what I'm going to need for the hours I'm in el centro. Carrying 6 millions is not really smart, isn't it? There is no reason for that. Credit and debit card are accepted everywhere. And if I'm carrying such an amount, which is not going to happen, I take a taxi. It's not even smart doing your errands "en el centro" with your $1000 phone. If you know you can get robbed, you go around with nothing, so that's what they are going to rob, just the cash you have with you. If you don't have an expensive watch, you don't have to worry when your arm is outside the window of car, because no one will try to take it from you. People are not shooting at you because you don't have nothing. It happened, but it's not the rule for sure. It might happen if you are opposing resistance that you get stabbed or shot, and I don't even think it's going to happen all the time. Most the time, if there are people around, they will just walk away. Yours are just fantasies. You should do some days in a prison here in Colombia to understand why people don't get stabbed any minute. If you hand over what you have and you show you don't have nothing else, there is no reason they should hurt you. If it happens, then it was your destiny. They take what you have, as fast as they can and they run away. Please get back to reality.

JjBee62
10-19-20, 00:39
I'm just curious no one has ever gotten robbed in the States? How do you handle any densely populated areas? With some caution.Not really comparable. There's no city in the US with a population density close to Medellin and most of us, while in the US aren't spending much time walking around in areas comparable to El Centro, especially at night.

There are several ways to avoid being a victim.

1. Be aware of your surroundings. For someone to rob you they have to get close.

2. Walk with confidence. If you're wandering around lost you look like a victim.

3. Don't flaunt it. Keep the phone and money out of sight. Leave your jewelry and wallet at home.

4. Limit your exposure. If you have no need to be there, don't go there.

Number 4 seems to apply. Other than moving between strip clubs or bars, there's no reason to be walking around El Centro after midnight. What purpose does it serve? The stores are all closed. The hookers are all staying in just a few small areas. There are no real sights to see.

You might have no problems. But you travelled thousands of miles, spent hundreds of dollars, just to walk around grubby, mostly deserted streets after midnight? You could be in your room fucking, or in a club partying. But you want to spend your time proving that thieves are basically decent people who won't hurt you as long as you tell them you didn't bring any money?

I guess everyone has a different definition of "enjoy yourself."

JjBee62
10-19-20, 00:47
Where a small percent of violence gets over publicized to give vast contrast of what the community is really like. Theres 365 days in a year..This too shall pass.

Twice a year we go through the "Medellin is perfectly safe and anyone who says otherwise is a paranoid coward"If you step outside you're going to die" cycle.

Everyone would rather hold to their misconception instead of accepting reality.

Incrociatore
10-19-20, 00:50
The location of your home would not be difficult to discover via that number. That doesn't necessarily matter but we all need to aware.That's not possible, you guys should stop to express opinions on things you don't know. Unless you are working for an operator and you have special access, or you are the police (and not all the policemen), you can't track a number. Then, just to clarify, is not really triangulation, because they don't need to use the GPS to locate you, they use the cell your phone is connected, and they know, more or less, where you are. They know the area, and that's it, they can't track exactly your position like with the GPS. If someone steal my phone I can't trace it, unless they shut it down. And I can erase the content remotely as soon the phone is connected to the Internet.

Incrociatore
10-19-20, 01:02
I will continue to tell any monger who wants to venture into Park Botero, Vera Cruz, and Park Berrios, have your wits about you. I have been in Medellin for 8 months, Centro is the place that I spend most of my time, if there was ever a target to rob, they would have robbed me by now. Do not make yourself a target, I can only give you warnings, if you have no street sense and you have never been in a scuffle, stay away from Centro at the current time. I have met about 8 Mongers in the past 8 months and everyone of them were older than me and everyone of them were not happy with what Centro offered them. If you know you want 18-20 year skinny chics who could pass for European, please stick with the agencies. I will leave it at that, you mongers know who you are and what you want, Centro may not be the place for you if you have very specific wants and needs, and the mongers I have met, really were particular on age, look, and weight! Centro is very dangerous if you do not speak Spanish, you have no street sense, and you are in Centro alone. You have heard my speech, to each their own! Pollo Negro is out!This is a good post. I personally like el centro, and I never felt in danger. But I'm a suspicious, I walk around with a killer look, I do not give any confidence, I do not let anyone near me, not even a meter close. And I do speak Spanish.

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10-19-20, 01:03
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Member #4665
10-19-20, 01:23
Centro is very dangerous if you do not speak Spanish, you have no street sense, and you are in Centro alone. You have heard my speech, to each their own! Pollo Negro is out!

A man from Cali, Colombia says in 10 years he has only been to the Cali center twice. The center is considered 1 of the most dangerous zones during the day and completely off-limits at night. He went there twice In 10 years for the commerce as there are Historically some good stores in the center. 1 of the times coincidentally across the Street from the store he visited there was an ambulance police and news crew present as there had been a shooting half an hour before he arrived.

And whenever a local from Cali needs to buy something from a store in the center they look for alternative stores located in the safe parts of town. And if the local visits the center he uses the In-N-Out tactic. He doesn't waalk around and go sightseeing. So, if you wander into the center is because you're an adventurer, commando, you know what you're doing, You assume the risk, You know how to fit in, and you're not behaving like the safe part of town locals.

So, unless you have a good reason, don't take the risk. That being said, if you're Streetsmart you can do it.
Another local from cali told me there are many parts of the cityy where you just don't go.

Incrociatore
10-19-20, 01:28
One of my girls said her watch was taken riding the metro when the train stopped two guys leaving trapped her arm stripped off the watch and ran off. All happened I'm seconds from what I was told.Well, sure. And in a big European city someone on a scooter grabbed my phone at a semaphore, when I was checking my mails. I was just fast enough to pinch it, and they didn't get it. It wasn't even me, it was just a reflex. They do these robberies all the time. It's happening everywhere not just in Medellin. A friend of mine got robbed of all his possessions by a girl slept with him in Portugal. So what? Be careful in Medellin like in any other country, included the one you are living in.

Incrociatore
10-19-20, 01:31
A man from Cali, Colombia says in 10 years he has only been to the Cali center twice. The center is considered 1 of the most dangerous zones during the day and completely off-limits at night. He went there twice In 10 years for the commerce as there are Historically some good stores in the center. 1 of the times coincidentally across the Street from the store he visited there was an ambulance police and news crew present as there had been a shooting half an hour before he arrived.

And whenever a local from Cali needs to buy something from a store in the center they look for alternative stores located in the safe parts of town. And if the local visits the center he uses the In-N-Out tactic. He doesn't waalk around and go sightseeing. So, if you wander into the center is because you're an adventurer, commando, you know what you're doing, You assume the risk, You know how to fit in, and you're not behaving like the safe part of town locals.I don't know Cali, but in Medellin there are so many soldiers, than no one is touching you during the day en el centro. I tell you that. And on La 70 this night I have seen 20 motorcycles and at least 15 agents of the special force, all in black armed like they were ready to go to war.

Osteoknot
10-19-20, 01:36
At least 90% of robberies in Medellin go unreported. Instead of basing your opinion on the experience of 1 gringo, ask the chicas how many times they've been robbed. Ask how many cell phones they have had stolen. Ask how many people they know who have been stabbed or shot.

Your point about only carrying what you can afford to lose is a good one.

Your thoughts about what will happen if you don't have anything to steal are potentially fatal.The reason I say it is hard to discern is because it also one of the most common ploys chicas use to get extra money from a Gringo, so beware. I've heard the story at least ten times from different girls, maybe half were believable, who knows. The angle is that you will have no way of reaching them to fuck them if they don't have a phone. Say, "Oh well" and move on. Unless you are pussy whipped by this particular chica or you think you are going to marry her, don't be buying cell phones for girls you've fucked. At least the Thai girls don't lie about it, they simply take you shopping and see what you will fork over, jajaja. Chicas will provide cell phones for their relatives, they just keep handing them down as long as there are Gringos out there willing to buy them. I knew one Gringo who bought FOUR cell phones for his chica in three months. I told him, "I guess even Grandma has a got a cell phone by now," jajajaja.

I try to include practical tips in my posts when I can: When my Number One girl got her cell phone stolen she was sitting in a cab at a stoplight and her door was unlocked. The cab driver should have locked the doors. The thief opened her door, brandished a knife, and grabbed her phone. Lock your doors and don't keep your windows rolled all the way down when in heavy traffic. The cab driver could be in on it and be setting you up as a mark.

The cops are attacking the end-users to try and combat the number of counterfeit and stolen phones in Colombia. I was walking with my Numero Uno girl and her girlfriend (they are lovers, jeje) in El Centro when the cops did a random stop on us. I am not a techy but chica's cell phone registration was not in her name, they looked it up in real time. They took her to the police station, threw her in a cold damp cell, made her take her shoes off (WTF?) and did not release her until 10 at night, over 8 hours later. She was never arrested, but they kept her phone. The chica bought her phone on the black market, but the cops are not just going after the dealers and distributors. They are punishing the consumers too, hoping to quell demand. Be forewarned.

Also, only carry what you can afford to lose but if possible have at least 400-600 on you to bribe the cops. When I say "bribe" I don't mean American style. A Gringo buddy of mine who is magnet for trouble, twice got rousted by cops who basically let him go after they took all the money in his wallet, without saying a word about it. The bicycle cops on Avenida 70 were notorious for this a while back. Mark one for the argument against shorts, jaja.

Disclaimer: My observations are all still based on a "Pre-Covid" Colombia. Locations, trouble spots, issues may have changed since then for the worse or better. Jaja.

Random Gratuitous Fotos: Same Gringo friend hooked me up with this chica on Halloween night 2019. She is dressed as GI Jane. At first, we did not have a spark but she has one of the most kick ass bodies I've ever fucked so I pursued her a bit. Now she holds the Number Five spot in my line-up (all my regulars have and know their number) and the title, "Best Body. " Remember, Sexy Dexy and Skater Chic had Best Ass, but overall got to give GI Jane "Best Body. " She has a full time job and has never asked me for a peso, except after fucking jaja and she gives me great deals on that rate and fringe benefits that would more than double the price for a full-time puta. These shots are not too revealing but as the saying goes, "You can't fake bone structure. " The fotos also suggest her fun personality which is something I always look for. Keep your eye out for more revealing shots of GI Jane in the future. I have a pussy shot of her you will never forget, jeje.

Questner
10-19-20, 01:54
I will post the link to a security guide. It's in Spanish but worth of effort to read. https://www.policia.gov.co/sites/default/files/cartilla-de-Autoproteccion.pdf Since most of the debates here are about the central area of the city, I would suggest to avoid Sundays, morning and evening peak time hours, and leave before the evening rush hour.

Questner
10-19-20, 02:03
Other security considerations you may think of. Assume you are made of glass and even the little shatter will break you. Assume there isn't any law, but a thin veil around you to fool you into thinking law can help you. And also know, when bad folks shoot they don't usually miss. It costs about 300-500 K to borrow a weapon, and 2 mln to buy, and there are actually tens of thousands illegal arms in the city.

Blakman
10-19-20, 02:25
Why would a group of colombian girls go down to mexico. Inquisitive mind wants to if other than vacation.

Osteoknot
10-19-20, 02:38
Why would a group of colombian girls go down to mexico. Inquisitive mind wants to if other than vacation.Up, not down.

Jajajaja, couldn't resist.

Ewe52
10-19-20, 02:46
Why would a group of colombian girls go down to mexico. Inquisitive mind wants to if other than vacation.Some work, some get 'rented' by guys for an extended period.

Knowledge
10-19-20, 03:32
That is a fair question. You can add these destinations to the list: Curacao, St. Maarten, Aruba, Spain.


Why would a group of colombian girls go down to mexico. Inquisitive mind wants to if other than vacation.

Knowledge
10-19-20, 03:43
I don't have your expertise I assume. Here is what I know. A couple of months ago I needed to send an online purchase to a relative's house. I could not remember her address and I could not reach her by phone in time to place the order soon enough to get a promotional price. I used her mobile phone number to look up her postal address on the Internet. It took five to ten minutes. I am neither law enforcement nor an operator (I assume you mean ISP or telecommunications carrier by that). If it were my imagination rather than what really happened then you would be correct.

To be fair, my relative leads a plain vanilla straight arrow life. She has no reason to take the very basic personal privacy steps to prevent me doing what I was able to do. Others who may have reason to secure that sort of information don't always bother to do it or know how to do it.


That's not possible, you guys should stop to express opinions on things you don't know. Unless you are working for an operator and you have special access, or you are the police (and not all the policemen), you can't track a number. Then, just to clarify, is not really triangulation, because they don't need to use the GPS to locate you, they use the cell your phone is connected, and they know, more or less, where you are. They know the area, and that's it, they can't track exactly your position like with the GPS. If someone steal my phone I can't trace it, unless they shut it down. And I can erase the content remotely as soon the phone is connected to the Internet.

Knowledge
10-19-20, 03:51
I might not know right from wrong but I do know 30 K is all anyone has to pay in Centro. If you 50 K number includes a hotel room then I'm with you. I've been to a Centro casa or two; I can't think of any that are north of 55 K on the high side for half an hour.


And continue to take the wrong route regardless. If you are in Centro and you are not able to spend $13.00 usd on sex, my suggestion is just stay away from the park, I have seen guys tell me straight up that they will not pay any girl in the park $50,000 pesos, but turn around and complain that the chic at the casa was horrible for $60,000 pesos, I telling you now, you are giving foreigners a bad name when you are too cheap to spend $13.00 usd on the girls, your choice, your money, but you know right from wrong. Pollo Negro is out!

Knowledge
10-19-20, 03:53
Yes, it's getting to be ISG World Star edition.


Where a small percent of violence gets over publicized to give vast contrast of what the community is really like. Theres 365 days in a year..

Osteoknot
10-19-20, 04:00
I still wonder how can someone can get robbed on La 70, like I read here, not even at night, but during the day. If you get robbed during the day, you are really doing something wrong. I have been walking en el centro for hours and no one touched me. And I'm planning to go after midnight, with just enough money for the taxi, if not any, without my phone, so they will have nothing to rob.

I want to see if it's so dangerous like people say, because I'm sure it's not. They do rob, for sure, but if you don't have anything to rob, they will not rob you anything. During the day there is a LOT of police, and I have spoken with a policeman who told me they are there the entire night. Of course the night is much worse en El Centro, but it's not the Far West.

To be robbed on La 70 you must be dumb, really. There are places in Italy, and not even in the South, much more dangerous than La 70. I never felt unsafe, and I have been walking at 2 AM in the night. I went to la Mayorista at 1 AM.

I think some of you are paranoid, like the one saying you shouldn't give your phone number. LOL, to a Colombian chica. Fact is, you don't know what you are talking about.But I will tell you what I saw there. I was walking with Novia #2 (Maid Service) in the heart of Avenida 70, closer to the University that the Metro Station. I became aware of someone sprinting and approaching from an angle over my left shoulder, street side. What happened next was amazing. Two other guys swooped in at a full sprint, one guy knocked him down with a flying kick and then with perfect accuracy did a side kick to his head while he down, bounced his head off the concrete and knocked him out instantly. At most we were ten feet away and there no one else near. As soon as the guy was down and out, the other two guys sprinted off, from start to finish not more than ten seconds. I am sure all of them were teenagers. The downed guy had on a back pack but his attackers were not interested. Everyone I spoke to said that was an "unusual" incident for that area. My dominant thought then and now was how skillful the little dude was who took him down. Two kicks, one on a full run, the second with pinpoint accuracy. Game over.

Disclaimer: All my posts are based on "pre-Covid" Colombia. Locales and their associated issues may be different now, better or worse.

Knowledge
10-19-20, 04:01
Prado, especially around the metro station, is the area that makes me more nervous than any other in Medellin. I actively avoid it. It is really easy to get hemmed in there with no way to escape. When I pass through on foot I keep moving at a brisk pace and always keep a building at my side. I can't ever remember moving through there at night on foot. In fact taxi and uber drivers usually detour to avoid it at night so they don't have to stop at a traffic light. That's when the stick up boys on motorcycles or guys off the street run up on you.


I have seen with my own eyes down the Metro Prado a guy approached from the back by two thugs. They paired him from both sides suddenly, kept him, took everything, pushed him away. I think they had a knife, but I did not approach to know more.
In such a case, I would not resist and I would let them take anything they find.
Note that people around did not do anything, just commented "ladrones..."

I have seen a poor man with backpack assaulted by a swarm of a dozen street kids. They took everything even the shoes in 30 seconds.

Forever18
10-19-20, 04:42
How much do you offer on Facebook, and usually, based on the level, how much do they accept?

Badoo didn't work at all. Few matches and girls most interested in something real than sex. The only real interesting contact I had it's not in Medellin. Waste of time. In Facebook, in a couple of hours I connected with 15 girls. I added a lot of girls, so I suppose by tomorrow I might have 50 contacts. Many are hot girls, some really hot. I started from a plastic surgeon page, then once I got friend with an hot chica, I added her girlfriends. I contacted one for test (not hot and in her 30), offered 50 for 2 hours and she asked for 100, oral natural. It looks way too much. I got a deal with a girl I met en el centro which I fucked today: 140 for the entire day. I would define this girl 7.5.

Usually what do you offer for 8, 9, 10 levels?

I wouldn't ask for a 7, because you can find a 7 en el centro. You need to search very well, do a test drive, and eventually make the offer.I usually offer 300k to 350k COP for all night. Keep me updated on how it goes. When are you going by the way?

MMHikeus
10-19-20, 04:57
Why would a group of colombian girls go down to mexico. Inquisitive mind wants to if other than vacation.I know a few Medellin girls who went to Mexico. They went to "work" there. They mostly see Mexican men. Apparently, the pay is better. They get moved to different cities. I know of a girl stuck in Mexico after the covid shutdown, but was able to return after the Colombian government allowed their citizens bank in.

MMHikeus
10-19-20, 05:44
That may be why so many use Facebook.

Hello. Are you available? I want to see you. How much do you want? I pay (whatever price you want). Is that okay? Yes I will give you 20 k for a taxi. Can you be here in 1 hour? Okay. I will see you in 2 hours.

(Hola. Ests disponible? Quiero verte. Cuanto quieres por un rato? Siempre pago (whatever). Est bien? S te dar 20 mil mas por un taxi. Puedes llegar ac en una hora? Claro. Entonces te ver en 2 horas.).

She'll show up, probably want to use the bathroom to freshen up, might come out in lingerie or just underwear. In less than 15 minutes she will be doing what you want. If she's enjoying your company she'll still be doing what you want 2 or 3 hours later. When she's done, give her the money and walk her to the door.

Tomorrow she'll send pictures of her friend and ask if you want a trio.He summed up the entire knowledge base succinctly. Took me a couple of years to figure it out.

Nounce
10-19-20, 06:53
A man from Cali, Colombia says in 10 years he has only been to the Cali center twiceI think the discussion here is a little different. Most what we are discussing here are from members who have been in the area practically all day for a long period of time. It is not like that they stay away from downtown and warn others not to come. I think the definition of downtown is far smaller for new members than experienced members so the viewpoint is also somewhat different.

It may not happen to you, but if it happens to you just once, I think you are going to change your opinion very quickly. That may be the difference of opinion between people never experience it and people who have experienced it.

Nounce
10-19-20, 07:01
That's not possible, you guys should stop to express opinions on things you don't know. Unless you are working for an operator and you have special access, or you are the police (and not all the policemen), you can't track a number. Then, just to clarify, is not really triangulation, because they don't need to use the GPS to locate you, they use the cell your phone is connected, and they know, more or less, where you are. They know the area, and that's it, they can't track exactly your position like with the GPS. If someone steal my phone I can't trace it, unless they shut it down. And I can erase the content remotely as soon the phone is connected to the Internet.I think he is not talking about tracking live location.

Incrociatore
10-19-20, 07:33
I have been "en el centro" at from 20:30 to 21:40 on Sunday. I don't know if it's because it was Sunday, but all the chicas were gone. Only the few working in front of the bars were still there. Some of them. I can say I have seen just 10% of the girls I have seen Saturday afternoon. I think the best time is between 16 and 19, after most of the chicas leave.

I have seen a monger there, speaking with two girls, maybe around 9 PM? He had a small backpack. One of you guys?

I didn't let anyone near me. I have been really careful to change path when two guys or a group was 30 meters away from me. Police was there, not many policemen, but it was there. And to be honest "el centro" was empty. No girls in Veracruz, no girls in Plaza Botero, I mean just 5. A few zombies around, real zombies, like in The Walking Dead. One was walking dragging his leg, he was like in the tv series.

Well, that's my last night visit there, but I will return between 16 and 19.

JohnnyO
10-19-20, 09:02
Met another girl yesterday. She came to my place, we ordered food. She was here for about 3 hours. A lot of talk with a lot of contact, especially from her side. Legs on mine, etc. She didn't let me kiss her. She asked me to recharge her phone, like 2000 COP before she left, which I didn't. She was nice, but she didn't shave her legs in a while. Student. Not a prostitute anyway.

Another girl was willing to accept my offer 100 + taxi for 2 hours. We had a video call. She was with a friend. After the call she accepted the offer, but then she told me to meet the day after. We never met, and she is not answering anymore. She was looking better in the pictures. They all look much better, usually.

For now, Badoo is a waste of time.I'm reading your reports with interest as I will travel to Medellin for the first time soon. As you have stated in your reports a number of times that you have taken girls back to yours can you please tell me what area you stay in and if you are using a hotel or airbnb. Thanks.

Zeos1
10-19-20, 13:34
I think the discussion here is a little different. Most what we are discussing here are from members who have been in the area practically all day for a long period of time. It is not like that they stay away from downtown and warn others not to come. I think the definition of downtown is far smaller for new members than experienced members so the viewpoint is also somewhat different.

It may not happen to you, but if it happens to you just once, I think you are going to change your opinion very quickly. That may be the difference of opinion between people never experience it and people who have experienced it.Cali and Medellin are also different. Last I heard Cali was more dangerous. And I would not be surprised if Cali centro is dangerous. Everyone I know from Cali has been held up at gunpoint at some time, mostly while driving, including just coming in from the airport on a shuttle bus. But, before there is an outcry. I don't know that many people from Cali, so I'm sure someone will have had a great time there, no problems at all, and spent all kinds of time in Centro.

Osteoknot
10-19-20, 13:52
I think the discussion here is a little different. Most what we are discussing here are from members who have been in the area practically all day for a long period of time. It is not like that they stay away from downtown and warn others not to come. I think the definition of downtown is far smaller for new members than experienced members so the viewpoint is also somewhat different.

It may not happen to you, but if it happens to you just once, I think you are going to change your opinion very quickly. That may be the difference of opinion between people never experience it and people who have experienced it.Issues of personal violence risk are in their own category. Most risks in life we can play the odds and not worry to much about outliers. The risk of getting in accident while driving, the risk of moving to a new city for a job, the risk of a marriage lasting, etc. But some risks are defined by the outcome more than the probability. Imagine a rare fatal disease, one in a million, one in ten million. But if you have it the incidence is 100%. Doesn't help for someone to say, "Wow, the disease that is killing you is SO rare. " So like you said, everything is copacetic until everything goes wrong, then what? I take way more risks than I should, been lucky so far. Personally I used to stroll El Centro all hours, pre-Covid. But I wouldn't recommend doing what I did. Jumping off the airport bus and running over to NutiBara Hotel? Sure. Heading the opposite direction at 2 AM into the Venezuelan section of town wearing a Nike track suit and sneaks? Probably not a good idea but that didn't stop me. Hey, I wanted to get laid and that's where my girls lived. Peace out.

Shamester
10-19-20, 15:03
Cali and Medellin are also different. Last I heard Cali was more dangerous. And I would not be surprised if Cali centro is dangerous. Everyone I know from Cali has been held up at gunpoint at some time, mostly while driving, including just coming in from the airport on a shuttle bus. But, before there is an outcry. I don't know that many people from Cali, so I'm sure someone will have had a great time there, no problems at all, and spent all kinds of time in Centro.Cali is fine. Visited in March with zero problems. Visit the two clinicas and you shall be rewarded with a huge selection of chicas with good service.

Prices are extremely reasonable.

An issue with Cali is the lack of English compared to Medellin.

Overall Medellin is better for mongering due to the numerous options.

Shamester
10-19-20, 15:08
Cali and Medellin are also different. Last I heard Cali was more dangerous. And I would not be surprised if Cali centro is dangerous. Everyone I know from Cali has been held up at gunpoint at some time, mostly while driving, including just coming in from the airport on a shuttle bus. But, before there is an outcry. I don't know that many people from Cali, so I'm sure someone will have had a great time there, no problems at all, and spent all kinds of time in Centro.As for centro do not walk around. Taxi to your location and be smart. The security is always outstanding. A few gems are around for decent pricing with an attached facility to do your business.

Incrociatore
10-19-20, 15:12
I'm reading your reports with interest as I will travel to Medellin for the first time soon. As you have stated in your reports a number of times that you have taken girls back to yours can you please tell me what area you stay in and if you are using a hotel or airbnb. Thanks.I do stay in Laureles, which I prefer to Poblado, not because La 70, but because it remembers me "El Vedado" in Cuba (very different, but residential). In addition Poblado is on the mountains, meanwhile Laureles is in the valley, therefore Poblado can get "cold" from time to time.

I used AirBnb, but pay attention when you book, be sure you read the notes. Previously I booked a place to discover after I had to pay 100 k for every guest I had. Which I didn't. I just left the place. If you book an hotel, be sure you can bring guests in your room. I heard by some members there is COVID supplement in some cases. I can't confirm it's true, but these people know what you are here for and they try to get all they can from your pocket.

I don't like casas, neither I like the love hotels, so if I have the opportunity I bring the girls at my place. Sometimes I do errands in El Centro, I try one or two girls, and if I like particularly one I invite her to my place a few days later.

I usually go for the best restaurants in the city, doesn't matter if I have to take a taxi. They are cheap, even the best. I take a taxi usually when the ETA is more than 15/20 minutes, otherwise I walk. In Laureles there are many restaurants, and most of them are concentrated in a couple of areas. I have been to Carmen the other day, which is considered one of the best restaurant in the city. I spent less than 40 dollars for a starter, a main course and postres. Other places I recommend are Barbaro Cocina Primitiva, and if you want to try a peculiar, very thin pizza, made with high quality ingredients, there is this restaurant called Ammazza, which is great IMHO. Also worth a check Saludpan. It's a good place for an alternative lunch. Mondongo offer huge portions, but the quality is not great. I have been there once and I will not repeat.

Black Page
10-19-20, 15:27
So your point is that I should carry my phone and 1 million so if they rob me, they are going to be happy and they leave me alone?You should always have some money to give. If you have only 20 k, nobody would believe it, they could shoot you or hurt you just to cut the story short. Have a reasonable amount, give it, and that's it.

Have a phone with you, as everyone has a phone, but buy it cheap if you don't want to risk.

I was never robbered by two guys with gun on a motorbike, but in such a case I would be happy to have 100k in my wallet and a cheap phone instead of my Samsung.

Who attempted to rob me in a street of Bogota was a small group of teens with a small knife. They run away after 1 min, but they were not dangerous. It can be worse.



Most the time, if there are people around, they will just walk away. Yours are just fantasies. ...... Please get back to reality.Seriously, you don't know what you are talking about. Medellin is not Naples. This is not Gomorra. Don't think you can lecture people who has spent years in Medellin. Jjbee62 knows the place, you don't have gathered his experience yet.

Go to Medellin, enjoy without being paranoid, take basic precautions and you will be fine, but do not think you are smarter than others or you may risk to pay the price. The probability of incident may be not high, but the risk size is huge.


Perhaps you ought to look at all of these posts in a different light. It's not that the board members with lot's of time spent on the ground in Medellin are trying to scare anyone with what they have witnessed / experienced, but more to warn others of the dangers that lurk, and hopefully provide some advice and things to be aware of so that other board members avoid becoming a victim.
EXACTLY. Well said.


It's not dangerous if you know what you aredoing.
Unfortunately, not everyone has the experience to know what they are doing. We advise caution, simply stated.

Knowledge
10-19-20, 15:27
Cali and the surrounding Valle de Cauca department have severe long standing security problems. Armed rebel groups that actively operate there don't present much risk to our constituency but the rampant robbery and petty crime do. When I worked in Colombia my company had to tailor its operations to avoid situations that would involve employees making intercity trips. We also had problems getting vendors and support organizations to visit our facilities during afternoon hours for fear their employees would end up on the wrong side of a traffic jam that could keep them out after dark.


Cali and Medellin are also different. Last I heard Cali was more dangerous. And I would not be surprised if Cali centro is dangerous. Everyone I know from Cali has been held up at gunpoint at some time, mostly while driving, including just coming in from the airport on a shuttle bus. But, before there is an outcry. I don't know that many people from Cali, so I'm sure someone will have had a great time there, no problems at all, and spent all kinds of time in Centro.

Knowledge
10-19-20, 15:33
I was not talking about live location.


I think he is not talking about tracking live location.

Nounce
10-19-20, 16:31
Cali and Medellin are also different. Last I heard Cali was more dangerous.This is not a competition. LOL. The point I was trying to make is people who give advice are sharing real experience because they have actually been there and often. Just take that into consideration and do whatever one pleases. It is an unique sight and experience.

Nounce
10-19-20, 17:27
I have been "en el centro" at from 20:30 to 21:40 on Sunday. I don't know if it's because it was Sunday, but all the chicas were gone. Only the few working in front of the bars were still there. Some of them. I can say I have seen just 10% of the girls I have seen Saturday afternoon. I think the best time is between 16 and 19, after most of the chicas leave.

I have seen a monger there, speaking with two girls, maybe around 9 PM? He had a small backpack. One of you guys?

I didn't let anyone near me. I have been really careful to change path when two guys or a group was 30 meters away from me. Police was there, not many policemen, but it was there. And to be honest "el centro" was empty. No girls in Veracruz, no girls in Plaza Botero, I mean just 5. A few zombies around, real zombies, like in The Walking Dead. One was walking dragging his leg, he was like in the tv series.

Well, that's my last night visit there, but I will return between 16 and 19.You learn fast. You can also try go in the morning. You may find different girls working. This is only the outskirt of where the zombies show up.

Wolf662
10-19-20, 17:48
That is a fair question. You can add these destinations to the list: Curacao, St. Maarten, Aruba, Spain.I know my Conejitas girl wen to St Maarten to work at at the strip club there, they import Colombian girls for a few months at a time.

JjBee62
10-19-20, 18:18
So your point is that I should carry my phone and 1 million so if they rob me, they are going to be happy and they leave me alone? Because this is what you have just said. Instead I'm doing the exact opposite. I'm not carrying my phone and I'm carrying what I'm going to need for the hours I'm in el centro. Carrying 6 millions is not really smart, isn't it? There is no reason for that. Credit and debit card are accepted everywhere. And if I'm carrying such an amount, which is not going to happen, I take a taxi. It's not even smart doing your errands "en el centro" with your $1000 phone. If you know you can get robbed, you go around with nothing, so that's what they are going to rob, just the cash you have with you. If you don't have an expensive watch, you don't have to worry when your arm is outside the window of car, because no one will try to take it from you. People are not shooting at you because you don't have nothing. It happened, but it's not the rule for sure. It might happen if you are opposing resistance that you get stabbed or shot, and I don't even think it's going to happen all the time. Most the time, if there are people around, they will just walk away. Yours are just fantasies. You should do some days in a prison here in Colombia to understand why people don't get stabbed any minute. If you hand over what you have and you show you don't have nothing else, there is no reason they should hurt you. If it happens, then it was your destiny. They take what you have, as fast as they can and they run away. Please get back to reality.You're going to have to dig up some old memories. You seem to have forgotten what you posted which started all of this.

You suggested you were going to go walk around the deserted streets of El Centro after midnight with only enough money for a taxi, just to prove it's not dangerous. Do you remember? Everything I've said is based upon that claim. It's not based on walking around conducting your business at noon or 6 pm. It's based upon walking around, with no purpose, in empty streets after midnight. Can you remain focused on that for about 3 minutes.

If you have absolutely no purpose to be in El Centro, particularly after midnight, particularly away from where the people are, you should not be there. There is absolutely nothing to gain from the excursion. The same is true anywhere in the city. If you're just going to a part of the city to prove crime never happens, and if it does, the thieves are basically decent fellows who are always 100% reasonable and polite, head up to Paris, Manrique or Milagro for your midnight stroll.

If you decide to take such a stroll, for no purpose other than to validate your opinion about the thieves in El Centro, you're being foolish. However, if there were laws against foolishness we would all be in jail. You don't need to take 1 million pesos and your phone. 150 k, especially if you include your small bills, should be enough for them to grab and run away.

Because, grab it and run away is what you want them to do in the event someone does rob you.

You know what, you do it your way. I'm absolutely certain the nice guy with the gun will be very understanding.

Could you do us all one favor? Before you take your "after midnight nothing dangerous here stroll", put a piece of paper in your pocket that says "Apparently I was wrong. " That way when they find the body, we'll be able to identify you from the news report.

JjBee62
10-19-20, 18:28
Up, not down.

Jajajaja, couldn't resist.Thank you.

Depending on who took them. Some of it is trafficking. They get the girls to agree to go to Mexico to work, but then only give the girls enough to live on and not what was promised, stranding them there for months.

Some are legitimate pimping situations. Some are taken solo by guys. Some go on their own because they can make more money in Mexico.

Surfer500
10-19-20, 18:50
I have been "en el centro" at from 20:30 to 21:40 on Sunday. I don't know if it's because it was Sunday, but all the chicas were gone. Only the few working in front of the bars were still there. Some of them. I can say I have seen just 10% of the girls I have seen Saturday afternoon. I think the best time is between 16 and 19, after most of the chicas leave.

I have seen a monger there, speaking with two girls, maybe around 9 PM? He had a small backpack. One of you guys?

I didn't let anyone near me. I have been really careful to change path when two guys or a group was 30 meters away from me. Police was there, not many policemen, but it was there. And to be honest "el centro" was empty. No girls in Veracruz, no girls in Plaza Botero, I mean just 5. A few zombies around, real zombies, like in The Walking Dead. One was walking dragging his leg, he was like in the tv series.

Well, that's my last night visit there, but I will return between 16 and 19.Best time is between 4 and 7 as you have surmised. There basically is a shift change, a sort of overlap between the daytime Chicas and nighttime Chicas. Sunday's are the worst days to monger in El Centro, albeit there are some part time Chicas that do come out during the daytime that have normal jobs during the week to make some extra money. As far as avoiding people, well it sounds as though your an obvious gringo and probably smart to do this, especially during the evening, however during prime time, 4-7 PM it will be harder for you to avoid people.

Blakman
10-19-20, 19:03
You are better off utilizing tinder or exploring casas. They are all over.


You learn fast. You can also try go in the morning. You may find different girls working. This is only the outskirt of where the zombies show up..

Blakman
10-19-20, 19:17
No arm dune. I will sik my stanford university daughtar on yu LOL.


Up, not down.

Jajajaja, couldn't resist..

Blakman
10-19-20, 19:23
I think they stayed a week and half. Just was only able to see edited girls having fun video on status. Want to make sure I am not dealing with a cartel girl LOL.


I know a few Medellin girls who went to Mexico. They went to "work" there. They mostly see Mexican men. Apparently, the pay is better. They get moved to different cities. I know of a girl stuck in Mexico after the covid shutdown, but was able to return after the Colombian government allowed their citizens bank in..

KillaCam11
10-19-20, 19:42
Talking to a Facebook chick, I countered her with a much lower offer (more in line with what a local would pay). Her response was "Eres un gringo why. Pagas tan. Poco y tu tienes dinero". I laughed so hard at that, first time a chica admitted that to me. If more of us banded together and stopped paying these ridiculous prices we can get Facebook chicas for local pricing but I doubt that happens. They all band together on pricing but we can't do that.

Tv Fan
10-19-20, 20:33
Just wanted to recommend this video of el centro. If you're planning to visit its a great view.

It's from this week, made by a "paisa" with good humor and information, the language is Spanish.

https://youtu.be/6TGWJJPaDCM

I'm Off.

Surfer500
10-19-20, 23:50
You are better off utilizing tinder or exploring casas. They are all over..Not everyone is going to agree with you that utilizing Tinder or exploring casa's is better than El Centro. Just because you don't like El Centro doesn't mean it's better or worse than Tinder, Casa's, or Fayboo Chicas. And I am surprised quite frankly that El Centro doesn't appeal to you in that it's the cheapest option available for sex in Medellin, and is a "cheap charlie's" paradise.

But for most guys on this board there are numerous reasons it's a no go for them, and understandably so, but at the end of the day it all depends on how guys like to monger. So telling other members not to waste their time should be prefaced with specific reasons for not going there. Such as it's dangerous being an obvious foreigner there, you have no Spanish speaking skills, the quality of the girls can be very poor, too many weird people walking around, it's filthy and dirty. These in essence are the reasons it's a no go for most members, yet for some these are not an impediment. Some guys want things served to them on a platter, kind of like going to a casa and making a selection. Or calling room service, aka having a Tinder / Fayboo Chica come over. While others like to go on the hunt, lurk, and cruise the streets looking for Chicas.

Blakman
10-20-20, 00:05
How much is the dues LOL.


Talking to a Facebook chick, I countered her with a much lower offer (more in line with what a local would pay). Her response was "Eres un gringo why. Pagas tan. Poco y tu tienes dinero". I laughed so hard at that, first time a chica admitted that to me. If more of us banded together and stopped paying these ridiculous prices we can get Facebook chicas for local pricing but I doubt that happens. They all band together on pricing but we can't do that..

Blakman
10-20-20, 00:10
St maarten has a nice little strip with bars where girls do there thing. Real close to cruise stop.


I know my Conejitas girl wen to St Maarten to work at at the strip club there, they import Colombian girls for a few months at a time..

Lugnut
10-20-20, 00:14
I usually go for the best restaurants in the city, doesn't matter if I have to take a taxi. They are cheap, even the best. I take a taxi usually when the ETA is more than 15/20 minutes, otherwise I walk. In Laureles there are many restaurants, and most of them are concentrated in a couple of areas. I have been to Carmen the other day, which is considered one of the best restaurant in the city. I spent less than 40 dollars for a starter, a main course and postres. Other places I recommend are Barbaro Cocina Primitiva, and if you want to try a peculiar, very thin pizza, made with high quality ingredients, there is this restaurant called Ammazza, which is great IMHO. Also worth a check Saludpan. It's a good place for an alternative lunch. Mondongo offer huge portions, but the quality is not great. I have been there once and I will not repeat.La Causa, El Correo, and Cambria are favorites of mine.

Member #4665
10-20-20, 01:31
Just wanted to recommend this video of el centro.
https://youtu.be/6TGWJJPaDCM
I'm Off.Great video recommendation. It's nice to be able to experience things without really being there. Doing that thing in the centro. From the looks Of the neighborhood I can't tell the difference from the Cali centro.

Man I have to say goodbye to the forum. I have to go work lol. Great community lots of fun keep it up. Too funny rolf.

Incrociatore
10-20-20, 01:47
So, today I have been witness of two episodes en el centro. Before I have seen a group of chicas discussing. One of them was losing blood from one hand. I didn't assist at the event, so I don't know if it was a fight or something else. Police was around, but apparently no one called.

About one hour later between Veracruz Church and Plaza Botero, a man in his fifty with a backpack has been robbed of his phone by two guys. I didn't see any weapons, but the man was on the ground trying to hold his phone, but the two guys took it from him and ran away. I can't say exactly because he was wearing a mask, but considering he had a backpack, my guess is that he was a tourist. Most of the tourists I have seen had a backpack.

So, once again, if you go to El Centro, leave your phone in the hotel, and if you have it, just don't use it. And bring with you just the money you need for a couple of shots.

Incrociatore
10-20-20, 02:04
You're going to have to dig up some old memories. You seem to have forgotten what you posted which started all of this.It might look like a paradox, but yesterday I was there really late, and no one was there. When the closest person is at 20 meters from you, you don't feel really in danger. On the contrary, during the day, there are so many people around, that you need to stay on alert all the time, especially when you pass by a group of guys or you just cross the path with them. After nine Plaza Botero is more like a desert of zombies.

Incrociatore
10-20-20, 02:05
Talking to a Facebook chick, I countered her with a much lower offer (more in line with what a local would pay). Her response was "Eres un gringo why. Pagas tan. Poco y tu tienes dinero". I laughed so hard at that, first time a chica admitted that to me. If more of us banded together and stopped paying these ridiculous prices we can get Facebook chicas for local pricing but I doubt that happens. They all band together on pricing but we can't do that.I'm active on Facebook since yesterday, and I might have a nurse interested. How much do you offer? I asked this question the other day but I didn't receive any answer, or maybe I missed it.

Knowledge
10-20-20, 02:08
I really like your taste in restaurants. Hit me up in private message if you would like a few recommendations I think you would enjoy.


I do stay in Laureles, which I prefer to Poblado, not because La 70, but because it remembers me "El Vedado" in Cuba (very different, but residential). In addition Poblado is on the mountains, meanwhile Laureles is in the valley, therefore Poblado can get "cold" from time to time.

I used AirBnb, but pay attention when you book, be sure you read the notes. Previously I booked a place to discover after I had to pay 100 k for every guest I had. Which I didn't. I just left the place. If you book an hotel, be sure you can bring guests in your room. I heard by some members there is COVID supplement in some cases. I can't confirm it's true, but these people know what you are here for and they try to get all they can from your pocket.

I don't like casas, neither I like the love hotels, so if I have the opportunity I bring the girls at my place. Sometimes I do errands in El Centro, I try one or two girls, and if I like particularly one I invite her to my place a few days later.

I usually go for the best restaurants in the city, doesn't matter if I have to take a taxi. They are cheap, even the best. I take a taxi usually when the ETA is more than 15/20 minutes, otherwise I walk. In Laureles there are many restaurants, and most of them are concentrated in a couple of areas. I have been to Carmen the other day, which is considered one of the best restaurant in the city..

Knowledge
10-20-20, 02:18
Full disclosure, I am a Centro rat so no one should consider me an objective source. Real talk, Centro is the low end. Even Colombian web sites like this one disparage it. We talk about it a lot on here but the vast majority of the clients are Colombian laborers who earn very low wages even by Colombia standards. Playing the Centro game is a lengthy and risky treasure hunt. It really is not for everyone, just like Loutron is not for everyone. Albeit for a different reason. If you have experience or grew up in a marginal urban setting you will not feel disoriented in Centro. If you are from a more sheltered background it will be a massive culture shock. Familiarity with street life is in my opinion much more important than the ability to conduct meaningful conversations with people in Centro.


You are better off utilizing tinder or exploring casas. They are all over..

Incrociatore
10-20-20, 02:26
I was not talking about live location.It doesn't really matter. You location, even if static, can be tracked in 3 ways: 1) via GPS; 2) through the cell your phone is connected; 3) based on your IP address. Ordered by accuracy, from the most accurate to the less one. For example, if I know your IP I can do a traceroute and understand, most likely, in which city you are, and which provider you are using, but I can't guess your exact physical location.

None of this is possible if you give away your number and you communicate with WhatsApp. On WhatsApp, for example, messages are sent through a server, it's not a peer to peer application, it uses the Jabber protocol, so your IP is not known to the client (the other person's phone). On other applications, well it depends. But here everyone is using WhatsApp, so don't be afraid. Just don't click on any links they may send you. That way they can potentially track your IP, but this is not a country off hackers, they are not going to do much with your IP, which is the IP of your local wireless network or the one assigned by Claro or Movistar, depending by the operator you use here.

Zeos1
10-20-20, 04:35
This is not a competition. LOL. The point I was trying to make is people who give advice are sharing real experience because they have actually been there and often. Just take that into consideration and do whatever one pleases. It is an unique sight and experience.I've never been to Cali, but walked a lot in Medellin centro. It can be a different world one block to the next. I do know that there are places I avoid, even in the daytime, and on the other hand places I have walked at night to get back to the metro. I have my favored routes, I stay alert, and have never had a problem. But I still believe it is a dangerous area especially at night. But at least it is the type of area that can keep you alert.

Walking in Poblado, or on la setenta, or on 33rd may give you a false sense of security. You still need to be alert. I've been sized up on la setenta at least once. Guy decided it wasn't worth it, not that I'm intimidating, but combination of surroundings, I didn't look that rich perhaps, or perhaps I had a look that it would be him or me, and even though he would have the advantage it wasn't worth the chance.

Sure, do whatever you please. But some of my fellow travellers here look like ducks in a shooting gallery when I see them in centro. I just don't want that much attention.

Osteoknot
10-20-20, 07:10
GI Jane holds down the Number Five spot in my line-up with "Best Body. " Every time I look at her I think to myself, how can she possibly be Number Five with a Nine body? Well, I've posted photos of girls Numbers Two thru Four so her competition is tuff. She smokes cigarettes which is not terrible but I don't and none of the chicas above her smoke. She brings free cocaine to the party but I am not into the white stuff. And her face is cute but not as cute as three of the girls above her. But that body. I am not a boob man but her chest is exceptional. She is at her pudgiest in the first photo with the red skirt but still looks spectacular. She's weighs a little less in the rest of the photos but who's counting? She definitely is capable of having the most orgasms per unit time of any of my girls. The single hottest session I have ever had in Medellin was with her but she's not consistent. So many variables. You don't have to agree with me about her body. There's a lot of personal preference that goes into that so let's not debate pointless issues. In the second photo, she has one of the cutest pussy gaps I've seen. I have taken every photo I have posted so far, except for the nightgown, she sent that to me so you may already have a copy too, jajaja. She is sitting on a dildo in that photo, you can barely see the pink between her legs.

She's works full-time in her family business. I am still looking for that pussy photo of her I mentioned before that you will never forget.

Blakman
10-20-20, 08:58
I believe I have been descriptive on my thoughts of centro. But let me confine it to the veracruz alley / short stretch carrera 53 to the corner. Let me describe the hunt. You can thank jjbee for this analogy. Its like digging in a garbage bin praying to find fresh food. Now the other portion of Centro is great. Local food, fruits, shopping but no one talks about that. About me I am cheapy charlie to a degree. I have class to a degree. But I like girly girly girls, fashionable, soft looking, soft tone, safe and uplifting environments. Ratchet is not for me. I cannot linger and be comfortable in that environment. So my thoughts is how could any other person be that's not force to survive in those conditions. What sickness attracts him there and allow him to get comfortable. Well surfer did I get detailed enough LOL


Not everyone is going to agree with you that utilizing Tinder or exploring casa's is better than El Centro. Just because you don't like El Centro doesn't mean it's better or worse than Tinder, Casa's, or Fayboo Chicas. And I am surprised quite frankly that El Centro doesn't appeal to you in that it's the cheapest option available for sex in Medellin, and is a "cheap charlie's" paradise.

But for most guys on this board there are numerous reasons it's a no go for them, and understandably so, but at the end of the day it all depends on how guys like to monger. So telling other members not to waste their time should be prefaced with specific reasons for not going there. Such as it's dangerous being an obvious foreigner there, you have no Spanish speaking skills, the quality of the girls can be very poor, too many weird people walking around, it's filthy and dirty. These in essence are the reasons it's a no go for most members, yet for some these are not an impediment. Some guys want things served to them on a platter, kind of like going to a casa and making a selection. Or calling room service, aka having a Tinder / Fayboo Chica come over. While others like to go on the hunt, lurk, and cruise the streets looking for Chicas..

Nounce
10-20-20, 10:51
Sure, do whatever you please. But some of my fellow travellers here look like ducks in a shooting gallery when I see them in centro. I just don't want that much attention.Zeos, my apologies. Although I was replying to your post but that statement was not directed to you. It was to BMs who think people are trying to scarce them.

Nounce
10-20-20, 11:18
You are better off utilizing tinder or exploring casas. They are all over.The same thing can be said about El Centro. I don't limit myself to any one place. It won't bother me if it is gone. I don't look at the cost the same way you do. What you think is cheap is actually expensive to me, and vice versa.


Its like digging in a garbage bin praying to find fresh food.
Isn't that how Tinder works? In Centro, you don't have to dig. You can just sit there to wait for the food to be served and eat what you like. LOL.


Now the other portion of Centro is great. Local food, fruits, shopping but no one talks about that.I have posted about it and that is one reason being there and being out at night. It is quite lively actually.

Knowledge
10-20-20, 14:04
Wise words indeed, I too have been very lucky around Centro considering how much time I spend there. I remember the first time it became clear to me how dangerous it must really be. After having been warned, and after having spent time there for a couple of years or so, one day I was walking along Carrera 47 toward Parque de Bolívar. It was late morning so the street was still fairly deserted. A woman approaching me from the opposite direction abruptly crossed the street before continuing to walk past me on the opposite sidewalk. That is when it hit me. She was genuinely afraid to get within grabbing distance of me. Trust the locals, they know.


I've never been to Cali, but walked a lot in Medellin centro. It can be a different world one block to the next. I do know that there are places I avoid, even in the daytime, and on the other hand places I have walked at night to get back to the metro. I have my favored routes, I stay alert, and have never had a problem. But I still believe it is a dangerous area especially at night. But at least it is the type of area that can keep you alert.

Walking in Poblado, or on la setenta, or on 33rd may give you a false sense of security. You still need to be alert. I've been sized up on la setenta at least once. Guy decided it wasn't worth it, not that I'm intimidating, but combination of surroundings, I didn't look that rich perhaps, or perhaps I had a look that it would be him or me, and even though he would have the advantage it wasn't worth the chance.

Sure, do whatever you please. But some of my fellow travellers here look like ducks in a shooting gallery when I see them in centro. I just don't want that much attention.

Blakman
10-20-20, 16:08
I cannot debate your response. It all makes sense. I am just one voice of many offering a perspective. We agree to disagree without anymosity.


The same thing can be said about El Centro. I don't limit myself to any one place. It won't bother me if it is gone. I don't look at the cost the same way you do. What you think is cheap is actually expensive to me, and vice versa.Your Centro is my lleras parque unfortunately at a higher cost but better environment.


Isn't that how Tinder works? In Centro, you don't have to dig. You can just sit there to wait for the food to be served and eat what you like. LOL.

I have posted about it and that is one reason being there and being out at night. It is quite lively actually..

Surfer500
10-20-20, 17:42
I believe I have been descriptive on my thoughts of centro. But let me confine it to the veracruz alley / short stretch carrera 53 to the corner. Let me describe the hunt. You can thank jjbee for this analogy. Its like digging in a garbage bin praying to find fresh food. Now the other portion of Centro is great. Local food, fruits, shopping but no one talks about that. About me I am cheapy charlie to a degree. I have class to a degree. But I like girly girly girls, fashionable, soft looking, soft tone, safe and uplifting environments. Ratchet is not for me. I cannot linger and be comfortable in that environment. So my thoughts is how could any other person be that's not force to survive in those conditions. What sickness attracts him there and allow him to get comfortable. Well surfer did I get detailed enough LOL.I appreciate your thoughts and detailed analogy of El Centro, in essence your calling the Veracruz area a place for mongers who are Dumpster Divers.

The area you described, lets call it the Veracruz Alley with the glass covered sidewalk and the hangout spot for the shemales is probably the very best spot to hang your hat in El Centro while Dumpster Diving. Thru this area every single hooker who works the area walks thru there either in route to the Love Motels and the bars, and lots of girls take laps walking around and thru the area to Botero and the surrounding areas so there is always a lot of foot traffic in the area. Now granted there are some very deplorable looking girls that line this passageway, but there also is a continuous steady stream of girls cruising and walking thru this area. Forgetting that this is not a safe and uplifiting environment, there are contrary to what you think soft tone / looking girly girls there, albeit they won't be dressed to the nine.

So setting aside the enviornment from which you pull a woman from, once your in a bedroom and the clothes are off, how would one know where they were found, whether it be Tinder, Fayboo, or Lleras. And let's take it a step further, imagine being with someone who doesn't negotiate about taxi money, or perhaps have a set menu or rules, and so on like those from Tinder / Fayboo. I remember encountering a candy girl in the alley, totally covered up wearing a dirty jogging outfit, no make-up, and once in the room behold a beautiful naked slim 22 year old Morena with no rules, tight and wet. So if you set aside where the girls are encountered and how they are dressed would you call someone who dumpster dives in El Centro sick, I don't think so. And the thought of paying a Fayboo / Tinder Chica 150 K-200 K plus taxi money for what can be had for a third of that I think would be quite a lure for a cheap charlie.

Albeit Centro is not going to work for most mongers with the reasons being that the monger sticks out like a sore thrumb being an obviuos foreigner and will feel uncomfortable there, may have limited Spanish speaking skills and not accustomed to going with locals versus Fayboo / Tinder Chicas, and no stomach for the filth, grime, stench, zombies, and others in the area makes sense.

It's all a matter of personal preference and tolerance, being able to sort thru things, being able to put aside mis-conceptions, and open to experiencing the unexpected, and new things.

MMHikeus
10-20-20, 18:21
I think they stayed a week and half. Just was only able to see edited girls having fun video on status. Want to make sure I am not dealing with a cartel girl LOL..There is an "organization" that recruits and facilitates this. Not sure if it is the narco cartel or their affiliates. Not even sure if they are Colombian or Mexican organizations. The few girls I know who went to Mexico seem to have gone there after they turned 18. At least none of them complained about the experience, one did say that the recruitment pitch doesn't always match the actual experience. I think they get the passports and glamour shots done. Not sure what the revenue sharing is like.

The one girl that was stuck in Mexico due to covid, used to post pictures and videos from Mexico. It was either a bunch of girls hanging out in an apartment doing makeup or smoking and generally chilling out, or a bunch of girls all dressed up and partying on boats or other party locations. Don't remember seeing guys in the videos but I am sure those are working parties. She is back in Colombia now. Seems to have made it back safely.

Surfer500
10-20-20, 19:07
So, today I have been witness of two episodes en el centro. Before I have seen a group of chicas discussing. One of them was losing blood from one hand. I didn't assist at the event, so I don't know if it was a fight or something else. Police was around, but apparently no one called.

About one hour later between Veracruz Church and Plaza Botero, a man in his fifty with a backpack has been robbed of his phone by two guys. I didn't see any weapons, but the man was on the ground trying to hold his phone, but the two guys took it from him and ran away. I can't say exactly because he was wearing a mask, but considering he had a backpack, my guess is that he was a tourist. Most of the tourists I have seen had a backpack.

So, once again, if you go to El Centro, leave your phone in the hotel, and if you have it, just don't use it. And bring with you just the money you need for a couple of shots.You probably saw a Colombian getting robbed. Lots and lots of Colombians have backpacks to carry umbrellas, jackets, and other stuff in them. If it had been a tourist, an obvious foreigner, they would of taken the backpack as well thinking that it was full of gold. When someone has a phone in their hand it's much easier to steal then wrestling a backpack off of someone.

Incrociatore
10-20-20, 20:11
I really like your taste in restaurants. Hit me up in private message if you would like a few recommendations I think you would enjoy.I can't, I'm still a regular member. I guess to PM you need to be a senior. Anyway, yesterday I visited El Cielo. It was great, highly recommended! I went for the menu degustation, which is 190000 or something like that. Another level. Superior restaurant with creative cousin.

Kafka
10-20-20, 21:34
It's a good place to go to just observe people. And be a touruat. But if you give that looking for something vibe you're going to get in trouble. Locals can smell it. I say that out of experience cuz I've been in some of the world situations in Haiti the Dominican republic in the other places with no problems, but looking lost in El Centro not a good idea


I appreciate your thoughts and detailed analogy of El Centro, in essence your calling the Veracruz area a place for mongers who are Dumpster Divers.

The area you described, lets call it the Veracruz Alley with the glass covered sidewalk and the hangout spot for the shemales is probably the very best spot to hang your hat in El Centro while Dumpster Diving. Thru this area every single hooker who works the area walks thru there either in route to the Love Motels and the bars, and lots of girls take laps walking around and thru the area to Botero and the surrounding areas so there is always a lot of foot traffic in the area. Now granted there are some very deplorable looking girls that line this passageway, but there also is a continuous steady stream of girls cruising and walking thru this area. Forgetting that this is not a safe and uplifiting environment, there are contrary to what you think soft tone / looking girly girls there, albeit they won't be dressed to the nine.

So setting aside the enviornment from which you pull a woman from, once your in a bedroom and the clothes are off, how would one know where they were found, whether it be Tinder, Fayboo, or Lleras. And let's take it a step further, imagine being with someone who doesn't negotiate about taxi money, or perhaps have a set menu or rules, and so on like those from Tinder / Fayboo. I remember encountering a candy girl in the alley, totally covered up wearing a dirty jogging outfit, no make-up, and once in the room behold a beautiful naked slim 22 year old Morena with no rules, tight and wet. So if you set aside where the girls are encountered and how they are dressed would you call someone who dumpster dives in El Centro sick, I don't think so. And the thought of paying a Fayboo / Tinder Chica 150 K-200 K plus taxi money for what can be had for a third of that I think would be quite a lure for a cheap charlie.

Albeit Centro is not going to work for most mongers with the reasons being that the monger sticks out like a sore thrumb being an obviuos foreigner and will feel uncomfortable there, may have limited Spanish speaking skills and not accustomed to going with locals versus Fayboo / Tinder Chicas, and no stomach for the filth, grime, stench, zombies, and others in the area makes sense.

It's all a matter of personal preference and tolerance, being able to sort thru things, being able to put aside mis-conceptions, and open to experiencing the unexpected, and new things.

Mojo Bandit
10-20-20, 23:17
I stumbled across this very recent video taken inside Gusto. This is from last Friday. I have to admit that there is some nice eye candy in this place.

I am not a huge fan of this place for the obvious reason that the poontang is overpriced, the drinks are overpriced, plus I got a little peed off the last time I was there I went outside for a few minutes to track a hot sweet chica's I had seen in the park from Gusto balcony and get her number to negotiate a session later and when I came back they wanted me to stand in line again, it was not worth all that.

It is common knowledge that a chica will go home with you all night for $200 - BMs have suggested that this can be negotiated down especially as the night winds down. That is almost twice as much as you can probably negotiate with a FB chica or even some of the SWs walking around in Parque Lleras. And the El Centro guys heads are exploding even at those prices.

This is a "high rollers" place where people who have the money and not only do they not mind spending in they want to spend the money. Get your bottle service and little VIP area and be surrounded by hot chicas. Dance with them and pick one to take home and spend all night driving her head into the headboard. That is not my scene (except for the last part about trying to drive her head through the headboard) but I am not judging.

Again I repeat that I do not recommend this place because personally I have done my hours and hours of research on FB and when I am on vacation I am lazy spoiled bastard who would rather sit in my room and get room service by getting on FB or my contacts in Whatsapp. If I were not a lazy bastard I would probably develop a plan to walk the spots in El Centro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zcIkywvx08&t=314s

Sangnyc21
10-20-20, 23:27
My friend who is a local told me a robbery made the news there. Guy was drugged through a cookie. They took his credit cards and made off with 30 million cop through purchases and cash withdrawals.

Mojo Bandit
10-20-20, 23:39
I'm active on Facebook since yesterday, and I might have a nurse interested. How much do you offer? I asked this question the other day but I didn't receive any answer, or maybe I missed it.It depends on some factors but I usually start at 150 k + 20 k taxi fees for a short time and I negotiate to be sure that I get BBBJ. And be sure they give GFE. That is just an average looking chica and for the basics. Hotter chicas will ask for more, 200 k is a norm for a lot of hot chicas who have regular customers, and there are some smoking hot chicas that have reputations for performing like porn stars who want even more.

GeneHickman
10-21-20, 00:24
I stumbled across this very recent video taken inside Gusto. This is from last Friday. I have to admit that there is some nice eye candy in this place.

I am not a huge fan of this place for the obvious reason that the poontang is overpriced, the drinks are overpriced, plus I got a little peed off the last time I was there I went outside for a few minutes to track a hot sweet chica's I had seen in the park from Gusto balcony and get her number to negotiate a session later and when I came back they wanted me to stand in line again, it was not worth all that.

It is common knowledge that a chica will go home with you all night for $200 - BMs have suggested that this can be negotiated down especially as the night winds down. That is almost twice as much as you can probably negotiate with a FB chica or even some of the SWs walking around in Parque Lleras. And the El Centro guys heads are exploding even at those prices.

This is a "high rollers" place where people who have the money and not only do they not mind spending in they want to spend the money. Get your bottle service and little VIP area and be surrounded by hot chicas. Dance with them and pick one to take home and spend all night driving her head into the headboard. That is not my scene (except for the last part about trying to drive her head through the headboard) but I am not judging.

Again I repeat that I do not recommend this place because personally I have done my hours and hours of research on FB and when I am on vacation I am lazy spoiled bastard who would rather sit in my room and get room service by getting on FB or my contacts in Whatsapp. If I were not a lazy bastard I would probably develop a plan to walk the spots in El Centro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zcIkywvx08&t=314sAgree this is about what it is like in Gustos, but only later like after 1030 pm or so. Perhaps you can see how the lights and booze mess with your eyes and senses and make the chicas appear more attractive than the one you see in your room in the morning, 😂. They are dolled up, and they are fishing for top $$. Performance is not guaranteed. If that's your thing have at it, but there are better and cheaper options in Medellin for those willing to put in the time and effort.

Incrociatore
10-21-20, 00:38
It depends on some factors but I usually start at 150 k + 20 k taxi fees for a short time and I negotiate to be sure that I get BBBJ. And be sure they give GFE. That is just an average looking chica and for the basics. Hotter chicas will ask for more, 200 k is a norm for a lot of hot chicas who have regular customers, and there are some smoking hot chicas that have reputations for performing like porn stars who want even more.OK, because this is what they are asking for and I was thinking it's too much, but I'm new to the game here.

One chica asked me 200 (for two hours), but she had ass and boobs done. Problem is she doesn't offer BBBJ, which is a must for me. So we didn't sign the deal. She is a nurse. I might renegotiate because she is hot.

Another one just left my place. I paid 150 + 15, a lot of kisses and BBBJ included, one hour. It was good but not so good.

Two days ago I got a prepagos for 200 + 10 (one way taxi, she paid the other) for an hour. But she liked it so much she decided to stay 2 hours. I didn't complain, just fucked her a second time. Said story, no second channel, just fingered, but she was scared. I think I might call her again.

I'm discussing with one I fucked en El Centro. She accepted 100 for 2 horas. It was 80, but she keeps raising the price. I told her 100 is the maximum I offer and she accepted. Let's see.

I'm not keen to pay more than 150 for one hour, honestly. I think we should all offer less. We make the price. Most of the colombians don't use internet, it's just us. I always offer 100, and they all complain it's not enough, but it should be enough.

These girls on FB, either they have a job, either they get clients in bars.

Anyway I still didn't have a really hot girl here. I mean, of of these girls that you say: wow! I had an 8. 5, but not a 9 or a 10. And I have seen just a couple around. Where are these girls? Do they exist? Maybe some casas? Time is kicking, I need to fuck a princess. Help me guys.

Incrociatore
10-21-20, 00:41
My friend who is a local told me a robbery made the news there. Guy was drugged through a cookie. They took his credit cards and made off with 30 million cop through purchases and cash withdrawals.Never accept candies from strangers, that what mum said. I don't let anyone near me, and I do not accept candies or cookies.

Osteoknot
10-21-20, 00:48
The pussy with pearls pic I may have a oversold a bit because it helped to be there. She walked into my hotel room in a short skirt (we had fucked on several occasions by now) plopped her tight ass down on my bed, and spread eagle to show me this. At the same time she asked, "Do you think these would sell in the United States?" I told her I would need to take a close look and some pictures, jeje. She is a seamstress by trade and family business and I understood her to say they were making these at her shop. She got up, still fully clothed. My Gringo buddy staying at the same hotel barged in, and because I knew she would without hesitation, I told her, "Show him. " She did, and he liked it and did a pretty good job of keeping a straight face.

I did not take the middle foto, she sent that one to me, in case you recognize it, jajajaa.

Knowledge
10-21-20, 00:50
OK, so this has gone way off the topic of the thread. That topic was the potential for a phone number to lead curious parties to a home address. When you suggested it is not possible I cited a specific of example that in fact it is. There was nothing to dispute so that should have been that. Rather than address it directly, you veered off into obscure IT details about location tracking which, again, was not the topic. I will step over, rather than into, that rathole with this closing observation. Your reference to IP addresses does not take into account things like tor clients or VPN tunnels. We can get back onto the topic of girls now.

I think you likely already know where to go but if you don't and have a burning need to continue up and down the OSI stack, private message me and I can give you some web site addresses where people will engage with you about it at very great length.


It doesn't really matter. You location, even if static, can be tracked in 3 ways: 1) via GPS; 2) through the cell your phone is connected; 3) based on your IP address. Ordered by accuracy, from the most accurate to the less one. For example, if I know your IP I can do a traceroute and understand, most likely, in which city you are, and which provider you are using, but I can't guess your exact physical location.

None of this is possible if you give away your number and you communicate with WhatsApp. On WhatsApp, for example, messages are sent through a server, it's not a peer to peer application, it uses the Jabber protocol, so your IP is not known to the client (the other person's phone). On other applications, well it depends. But here everyone is using WhatsApp, so don't be afraid. Just don't click on any links they may send you. That way they can potentially track your IP, but this is not a country off hackers, they are not going to do much with your IP, which is the IP of your local wireless network or the one assigned by Claro or Movistar, depending by the operator you use here.

TresRios
10-21-20, 00:58
I was quoted 250 by Erika. I thought that was high, but she told me that she isn't working and hasn't for over a year.

However, another member at Villainy reported that he has seen her a couple of months ago, so maybe she didn't like my vibe.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1747990672024923&set=a.111695268987813&type=3&theater

I like something about her. So I might see if we can't negotiate.

TR.

IamLookin
10-21-20, 01:09
Besides Gustos in Lleras park there are a lot good places to drink and listen to music. If you want to take a break and hang out with friends it is pretty good. You can always stop in Gustos just don't order their overpriced beer and drinks. Some good places to eat around there as well.


Agree this is about what it is like in Gustos, but only later like after 1030 pm or so. Perhaps you can see how the lights and booze mess with your eyes and senses and make the chicas appear more attractive than the one you see in your room in the morning, 😂. They are dolled up, and they are fishing for top $$. Performance is not guaranteed. If that's your thing have at it, but there are better and cheaper options in Medellin for those willing to put in the time and effort.

Osteoknot
10-21-20, 01:28
OK, because this is what they are asking for and I was thinking it's too much, but I'm new to the game here.

One chica asked me 200 (for two hours), but she had ass and boobs done. Problem is she doesn't offer BBBJ, which is a must for me. So we didn't sign the deal. She is a nurse. I might renegotiate because she is hot.

Another one just left my place. I paid 150 + 15, a lot of kisses and BBBJ included, one hour. It was good but not so good.

Two days ago I got a prepagos for 200 + 10 (one way taxi, she paid the other) for an hour. But she liked it so much she decided to stay 2 hours. I didn't complain, just fucked her a second time. Said story, no second channel, just fingered, but she was scared. I think I might call her again..They way you posted before you got there I though you were a disaster waiting to happen so congrats on proving me wrong. I was pullng for you, but concerned by some of the words that come out of your moufus pre-arrival to Medellin. Anywho, you done god. For a Nine? I dunno (I don't give out tens). Mostly random good luck. One of the best looking teenagers I ever saw stopped me in Parque Botero one time and wanted to go fuck at my hotel but I couldn't at that moment. I got her number but we never hooked up. Another time, at a bar where I never saw better than a 7, one night a 9 waltzes in like it was no big deal and she was great in bed. I consider all my regular girls to be Nines, but there was no "one way" I met them. Another cream dream was a girl who was standing outside of Help in Rio near closing time with not enough money to get inside. I threw her on my back and literally carried her back to my apartment. I was just walking by at the time. My regular girls are all Nines to me but they evolved over time by keeping the best and discarding the rest. And that was one of the points I mentioned to you before you left. The time factor. Other mongers may offer you up more specifics. For me it was a process that took time to get a bunch of steady Nines (poetic). Oh, I did just think of one thing that might help. Don't ever hesitate to ask a girl you fucked for a recommendation for another girl. Always open with, "In case you are not available. . . " for the obvious reasons. She might give you a number, or you can tell her to provide your number to her friends. Tell her what you like, face, big butt, boobs, three-hole access, etc. My best ones seemed to appear when I least expected it.

Gratuitous foto and the first glimpse so far of mi Numero Uno.

Member #4665
10-21-20, 01:58
Hey do any of you med cats know any Nines Or tens in Cali, Closer to the European type. I already asked in the Cali forum But had no reply.I have one 10 Cali In Facebook and one really hot seeking contact to Trade. If you're interested Don't send me any links send me the picture 1st.

In that video of giustos club in Medellin one can clearly see a guy with shorts, white sneakers, and a baseball cap.

MarquisdeSade1
10-21-20, 02:28
I stumbled across this very recent video taken inside Gusto. This is from last Friday. I have to admit that there is some nice eye candy in this place.

I am not a huge fan of this place for the obvious reason that the poontang is overpriced, the drinks are overpriced, plus I got a little peed off the last time I was there I went outside for a few minutes to track a hot sweet chica's I had seen in the park from Gusto balcony and get her number to negotiate a session later and when I came back they wanted me to stand in line again, it was not worth all that.

It is common knowledge that a chica will go home with you all night for $200 - BMs have suggested that this can be negotiated down especially as the night winds down. That is almost twice as much as you can probably negotiate with a FB chica or even some of the SWs walking around in Parque Lleras. And the El Centro guys heads are exploding even at those prices.

This is a "high rollers" place where people who have the money and not only do they not mind spending in they want to spend the money. Get your bottle service and little VIP area and be surrounded by hot chicas. Dance with them and pick one to take home and spend all night driving her head into the headboard. That is not my scene (except for the last part about trying to drive her head through the headboard) but I am not judging.
Those are some "grande chicas".

You couldn't pay me to do them jajajajajaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Incrociatore
10-21-20, 02:42
I think you likely already know where to go but if you don't and have a burning need to continue up and down the OSI stack, private message me and I can give you some web site addresses where people will engage with you about it at very great length.I'm sorry, it was just a clarification, it's a professional distortion. These are thing I know a lot about. But, yes, let's get back to the girls.

Blakman
10-21-20, 02:58
Just joking


Hey do any of you med cats know any Nines Or tens in Cali, Closer to the European type. I already asked in the Cali forum But had no reply.I have one 10 Cali In Facebook and one really hot seeking contact to Trade. If you're interested Don't send me any links send me the picture 1st.

In that video of giustos club in Medellin one can clearly see a guy with shorts, white sneakers, and a baseball cap..

LoveItHere69
10-21-20, 03:06
Anyway I still didn't have a really hot girl here. I mean, of of these girls that you say: wow! I had an 8. 5, but not a 9 or a 10. And I have seen just a couple around. Where are these girls? Do they exist? Maybe some casas? Time is kicking, I need to fuck a princess. Help me guys.You are too cheap to pay the $25 admission fee to this site? If you can have a guy hold your hand for 2-3 hours to show you some places and teach you some things it would more than pay for your $25 admission fee. You want girls names and numbers which can not be posted. FB links can but you get the point. Nobody here can post their contact information. You need to pay $25. Then maybe someone can help you.

Surfer500
10-21-20, 03:14
In that video of giustos club in Medellin one can clearly see a guy with shorts, white sneakers, and a baseball cap.That was Blakman no doubt about it.

Blakman
10-21-20, 03:14
I had over 60 girls and only 4 was in the 7 to 8 range. 1 was at 220 k, 2 was at 150 k and another at a casa was for 100 k special. Lleras parque club, gusto club, maybe walking in lleras park or hooking up with a girl that has some top of the line group of friends. You see a few non pros walking who are stunners. Grocery store excetera. But I think Dominican republic has Colombia beat as far as accessible girls. Threesomes are easier in Colombia and the girls are easy to get along with and in my case great performers. You will not see an 7 or 8 in Centro. I do not care what any monger reports LOL.


OK, because this is what they are asking for and I was thinking it's too much, but I'm new to the game here.

One chica asked me 200 (for two hours), but she had ass and boobs done. Problem is she doesn't offer BBBJ, which is a must for me. So we didn't sign the deal. She is a nurse. I might renegotiate because she is hot.

Another one just left my place. I paid 150 + 15, a lot of kisses and BBBJ included, one hour. It was good but not so good.

Two days ago I got a prepagos for 200 + 10 (one way taxi, she paid the other) for an hour. But she liked it so much she decided to stay 2 hours. I didn't complain, just fucked her a second time. Said story, no second channel, just fingered, but she was scared. I think I might call her again.

I'm discussing with one I fucked en El Centro. She accepted 100 for 2 horas. It was 80, but she keeps raising the price. I told her 100 is the maximum I offer and she accepted. Let's see.

I'm not keen to pay more than 150 for one hour, honestly. I think we should all offer less. We make the price. Most of the colombians don't use internet, it's just us. I always offer 100, and they all complain it's not enough, but it should be enough.

These girls on FB, either they have a job, either they get clients in bars.

Anyway I still didn't have a really hot girl here. I mean, of of these girls that you say: wow! I had an 8. 5, but not a 9 or a 10. And I have seen just a couple around. Where are these girls? Do they exist? Maybe some casas? Time is kicking, I need to fuck a princess. Help me guys..

Questner
10-21-20, 03:28
Hey do any of you med cats know any Nines Or tens in Cali, Closer to the European type. I already asked in the Cali forum But had no reply.I have one 10 Cali In Facebook and one really hot seeking contact to Trade. If you're interested Don't send me any links send me the picture 1st.

In that video of giustos club in Medellin one can clearly see a guy with shorts, white sneakers, and a baseball cap.Just visit Escoces whiskeria or Deluxe Club and see or ask what you are looking for. Prices about 450 K COP per hour now on premises or you get her number. The situation is very hot, so unless you have needed experience, better find what you need in Meddy.

Blakman
10-21-20, 03:32
Sounds on target.


There is an "organization" that recruits and facilitates this. Not sure if it is the narco cartel or their affiliates. Not even sure if they are Colombian or Mexican organizations. The few girls I know who went to Mexico seem to have gone there after they turned 18. At least none of them complained about the experience, one did say that the recruitment pitch doesn't always match the actual experience. I think they get the passports and glamour shots done. Not sure what the revenue sharing is like.

The one girl that was stuck in Mexico due to covid, used to post pictures and videos from Mexico. It was either a bunch of girls hanging out in an apartment doing makeup or smoking and generally chilling out, or a bunch of girls all dressed up and partying on boats or other party locations. Don't remember seeing guys in the videos but I am sure those are working parties. She is back in Colombia now. Seems to have made it back safely..

DramaFree11
10-21-20, 03:42
I had over 60 girls and only 4 was in the 7 to 8 range. 1 was at 220 k, 2 was at 150 k and another at a casa was for 100 k special. Lleras parque club, gusto club, maybe walking in lleras park or hooking up with a girl that has some top of the line group of friends. You see a few non pros walking who are stunners. Grocery store excetera. But I think Dominican republic has Colombia beat as far as accessible girls. Threesomes are easier in Colombia and the girls are easy to get along with and in my case great performers. You will not see an 7 or 8 in Centro. I do not care what any monger reports LOL..Agree 100%, I would say that Mexico can even be better. Correct Colombia is good, but Russia, Mexico and Parts of Europe are all better.

Balboa
10-21-20, 03:53
Prado, especially around the metro station, is the area that makes me more nervous than any other in Medellin. I actively avoid it. It is really easy to get hemmed in there with no way to escape. When I pass through on foot I keep moving at a brisk pace and always keep a building at my side. I can't ever remember moving through there at night on foot. In fact taxi and uber drivers usually detour to avoid it at night so they don't have to stop at a traffic light. That's when the stick up boys on motorcycles or guys off the street run up on you.What? El Centro es peligroso? Lol. Ive been roaming there for about 20 years now and lets just say I enjoy the danger debate.
Its all cool and good, til its not, and thats just reality.

Anyway, heres a paisita that I met in Centro about a year ago, who in my book is pretty hot, that i keep in my stable of favoritas.
Sorry señor Blackman, but they’re out there for the skilled hunter, lol. However, you’re right, most guys should stick to FB and Gustos, Parque Lleras, etc.. I miss being the only gringo out there, jeje.

I enjoy the hunt in all the venues, but I'm an original Centro rat at heart.

Wolf662
10-21-20, 04:22
. You will not see an 7 or 8 in Centro. I do not care what any monger reports LOL..I'd say some of my Centro girls were certainly at least 7's but YMMV.

Member #4665
10-21-20, 04:32
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Anyway I still didn't have a really hot girl here. I mean, of of these girls that you say: wow! I had an 8. 5, but not a 9 or a 10. And I have seen just a couple around. Where are these girls? Do they exist? Maybe some casas? Time is kicking, I need to fuck a princess. Help me guys.Hey the only place I know for sure you can find a 9 or 10 is on seeking arrangement. The problem is there'll probably be less than 5 active ones and 2 of them may be a 7 or and 8. My friend got one for 300,000 For 3 hours. The other wasn't really interested in 300,000 maybe she already Another client. The rate is similar to Facebook girls which I guess is 150,000 or 200,000 for 2 hours. For people that only get laid once a week once every 2 weeks or oonce a month seeking is actually a good deal. On the other hand if you want to fuck 4 times a weekWell, you get the point.

If you want 1 of these girls and you want them faast you have to send a catchy message. Say something like I really need to hook up with you quickly so make you a higher offer. The alternative just to save your money. Desperation calls for desperate measures. Agreed Colombia is overrated. But there are some hotties in seeking in med. However I suppose a lot of people really like it because then why does this med forum have almost 50,000 posts? In some of the guys here I suppose they really love the local Exotic flavor of the girls? Maybe the guys like the low prices too. If you're not impressed with med perhaps try Ukraine The prices are similar to Colombian prices. The Difficult part In Ukraine is RRussian speakersHave it the best. Use sign language? Make a circle with the thumb and index in your left hand and then run your right hand Index finger through the circle!


Don't send any money for pictures. Don't send any money for videoconference. Confirm her identity quickly through videoconference. If not you will end up talking 2 hours to scammer.

If you talk about money or sex in the seekingg arrangement chat you will get banned. So before talking about that as for her WhatsApp and continue the conversation there.

JjBee62
10-21-20, 05:02
Not everyone is going to agree with you that utilizing Tinder or exploring casa's is better than El Centro. Just because you don't like El Centro doesn't mean it's better or worse than Tinder, Casa's, or Fayboo Chicas. And I am surprised quite frankly that El Centro doesn't appeal to you in that it's the cheapest option available for sex in Medellin, and is a "cheap charlie's" paradise.

But for most guys on this board there are numerous reasons it's a no go for them, and understandably so, but at the end of the day it all depends on how guys like to monger. So telling other members not to waste their time should be prefaced with specific reasons for not going there. Such as it's dangerous being an obvious foreigner there, you have no Spanish speaking skills, the quality of the girls can be very poor, too many weird people walking around, it's filthy and dirty. These in essence are the reasons it's a no go for most members, yet for some these are not an impediment. Some guys want things served to them on a platter, kind of like going to a casa and making a selection. Or calling room service, aka having a Tinder / Fayboo Chica come over. While others like to go on the hunt, lurk, and cruise the streets looking for Chicas.This may be your best post.

I love El Centro, but I rarely monger there, just an occasional casa or strip club. However, I love the feel of El Centro. It's gritty, dirty and has its dangers, but it's real. Poblado and Laureles are great, but there you're seeing Medellin all made up wearing its best dress.

El Centro is Medellin, no makeup, no filters, wearing nothing but worn out dollar store panties.

JjBee62
10-21-20, 05:25
I'm active on Facebook since yesterday, and I might have a nurse interested. How much do you offer? I asked this question the other day but I didn't receive any answer, or maybe I missed it.There are 2 schools of thought on this.

1. Offer 100-150 k, depending on how hard you want to work. You can start lower. Most will expect you to add 20 k for a taxi.

2. I ask how much they want. Cuanto quieres? How much do you want? My response is always "siempre pago" followed by the price I want to pay. Usually 150 k. Then it's just a matter of negotiating extra for the taxi.

Standard FB rate is 150k + taxi or 200 k no taxi.

If a girl insists on her price I thank her and tell her maybe another day. If a girl mentions dollars I tell her I have pesos not dollars. If a girl mentions an hour, I tell her I don't do time limits. I prefer to take my time.

I don't negotiate extras, services or anything else. I find that most will do BBBJ. Most will stay 2 or more hours. Most will do whatever I want.

If you have certain requirements get agreement in advance.

JjBee62
10-21-20, 05:43
I believe I have been descriptive on my thoughts of centro. But let me confine it to the veracruz alley / short stretch carrera 53 to the corner. Let me describe the hunt. You can thank jjbee for this analogy. Its like digging in a garbage bin praying to find fresh food. Now the other portion of Centro is great. Local food, fruits, shopping but no one talks about that. About me I am cheapy charlie to a degree. I have class to a degree. But I like girly girly girls, fashionable, soft looking, soft tone, safe and uplifting environments. Ratchet is not for me. I cannot linger and be comfortable in that environment. So my thoughts is how could any other person be that's not force to survive in those conditions. What sickness attracts him there and allow him to get comfortable. Well surfer did I get detailed enough LOL.Yes, but.

I recall you saying the thought of having sex with anyone over 30 made you physically ill. We all know what happened next.

Veracruz alley is quite often a shitshow. Between the grannies and the trannies it tends to ruin the mood. But if you make enough trips down the alley, eventually you'll spot one who looks right.

ILuvThePussy
10-21-20, 06:09
. Agreed Colombia is overrated. But there are some hotties in seeking in med. However I suppose a lot of people really like it because then why does this med forum have almost 50,000 posts?I agree, Medellíand is kinda overrated right now. I'm sure it was better in the past, but right now all the girls available at affordable prices (150 mil, $45) or below are meh in looks. All the 8+ (and sometimes even the ugly ones) are asking for +300 mil with the most basic of services. I didn't travel 2000 thousand miles to pay $90 for a boring fuck that probably won't even get me off. Centro girls are mostly ugly with maybe a few that are worth doing but the attitude is very rushed from my experience, same with casa girls.

Facebook has been alright. 60% of the girls don't bother responding even after reading the message. 20% just laugh in your face or act offended. I had a girl say "Con 150 ni me limpió el culo" after my 150 mil why taxi por dos leches offer and she was a solid 6. Of the 20% that actually accept the offer maybe 15% show up. Of the 15% that showed up 3 girls were truly worth the trip for me, not because of their looks (6-7), but because of their attitudes and sexual techniques.

All in all I released a lot of stores up leche and will probably try some other country next time.

Incrociatore
10-21-20, 06:28
What? El Centro es peligroso? Lol. Ive been roaming there for about 20 years now and lets just say I enjoy the danger debate.
Its all cool and good, til its not, and thats just reality.

Anyway, heres a paisita that I met in Centro about a year ago, who in my book is pretty hot, that i keep in my stable of favoritas.
Sorry seor Blackman, but theyre out there for the skilled hunter, lol. However, youre right, most guys should stick to FB and Gustos, Parque Lleras, etc.. I miss being the only gringo out there, jeje.

I enjoy the hunt in all the venues, but I'm an original Centro rat at heart.You are not the only one. I like roaming there. Today I was trying Facebook. Got two chicas, one in the afternoon, the other after dinner. Disappointed twice. The first one did the work. Both 6. I'm not happy with the results so far. In Cuba I was fuckin less, but I could find better girls. Here it's easier, but girls aren't so good looking. After you fuck 3 girls every day you want something really good. I hope tomorrow will visit me the one I met in El Centro. She is a 7 with a pretty face. She could be an 8, but she is coming from a very poor background. The environment is heavy on these girls.

Incrociatore
10-21-20, 06:50
. Hey the only place I know for sure you can find a 9 or 10 is on seeking arrangement.Honestly I don't want to pay for SA. I'm also getting tired of these socials. I prefer to see the girls in person. Most likely, once naked, they will not look like expected, but at least I have an idea, and I can smell them.

I know Ukraine very well. I have been there multiple times for other reasons. Girls are very attractive but the attitude is the worst and prices are not reasonable. You know, I'm 100% confident I could fuck for "free" here in Medellin if I could stay more time. I could find a girlfriend or something like that. In Ukraine find an 8-9 as a girlfriend is impossible, unless you are a 9 yourself and you are willing to spend a lot of money. Ukrainian girls are absolutely superficial, the one really attractive especially. (I think this is common all over the world).

Anyway, the reason Ukrainian girls are so expensive is because they can travel across the whole Europe without a Visa. Otherwise they could be cheap like Romanians are. The most attractive ones work in Europe, and the one you can find there, travel often. I have been on over 20 dates in Ukraine with Tinder girls. Only one was an escort, but none of them will ever tell you if you meet them on Tinder. A couple of 8, all the others between 5 and 7.5 max. I didn't have finalized much. I have seen 9 and 10 in clubs. I still remember one. OMG why didn't I approach her? I could have paid $300 for that one, she was really on another level.

JjBee62
10-21-20, 07:17
. Hey the only place I know for sure you can find a 9 or 10 is on seeking arrangement. The problem is there'll probably be less than 5 active ones and 2 of them may be a 7 or and 8. My friend got one for 300,000 For 3 hours. The other wasn't really interested in 300,000 maybe she already Another client. The rate is similar to Facebook girls which I guess is 150,000 or 200,000 for 2 hours. For people that only get laid once a week once every 2 weeks or oonce a month seeking is actually a good deal. On the other hand if you want to fuck 4 times a weekWell, you get the point.

If you want 1 of these girls and you want them faast you have to send a catchy message. Say something like I really need to hook up with you quickly so make you a higher offer. The alternative just to save your money. Desperation calls for desperate measures. Agreed Colombia is overrated. But there are some hotties in seeking in med. However I suppose a lot of people really like it because then why does this med forum have almost 50,000 posts? In some of the guys here I suppose they really love the local Exotic flavor of the girls? Maybe the guys like the low prices too. If you're not impressed with med perhaps try Ukraine The prices are similar to Colombian prices. The Difficult part In Ukraine is RRussian speakersHave it the best. Use sign language? Make a circle with the thumb and index in your left hand and then run your right hand Index finger through the circle!.Overrated? You must be talking about a different Colombia. Either that or your rating system is all messed up.

For $25 a night I get a 2 bed, 2 bath apartment with a great balcony, in a safe and quiet, upscale neighborhood. Even if I was on crutches, here's a list of things within walking distance:

A full grocery store, 2 pharmacies, 3 ATMs, 8 restaurants, an office supply store, a laundry, 2 tailors, a pet supply store, 2 nail salons, 4 hair salons, a bus stop and a taxi stand.

I don't plan on being on crutches. Which means the Metro, 3 malls, 75 more restaurants, every kind of shopping you can imagine, 3 more grocery stores, ba Jumbo store, ATMs for every bank, casinos and a red light district are also within walking distance.

I can get breakfast for $1.70, lunch and dinner for $2.50, all with fresh fruit juice. Which means I can stay, eat and travel the city for under $40 per day. If I want to go the low budget route, I could manage $25 per day.

The climate, particularly in Medellin is almost perfect. There are very few flying pests to annoy you. Even the rainy season isn't too bad.

The people are genuinely friendly. They are usually polite and helpful. The women are gorgeous and dress to display their sexuality, instead of hiding it. A trip to the mall is better than a trip to most US beaches. For anyone with a spandex fetish, Ciclovia is like a pilgrimage to Mecca.

Then there's the sex. With patience and persistence you can get laid for $7. Even if you insist on paying top dollar, there's no need to pay over $200 and most guys are paying $50 or less. And no matter how much you're spending, you can find beautiful and passionate women.

Everyone has their preference. If you feel Colombia is overrated, find me a place which exceeds it in all the important categories.

Blakman
10-21-20, 08:27
I disagree on the performance from Colombian women. I got the best head there / to be more accurate very competitive head jobs. I got sexy lap dances. And chicks that stayed extra. They sometines accepted less the next go around. Theres a strategy to the colombian women. Well basically to all foreign women. I write about it in my book LOL. But it will get them to go all out for you in bed. All this while mostly being in the 70 to 100 k including taxi range. The Colombian attraction I think is abundance of newbies that's easily available.


I agree, Medelland is kinda overrated right now. I'm sure it was better in the past, but right now all the girls available at affordable prices (150 mil, $45) or below are meh in looks. All the 8+ (and sometimes even the ugly ones) are asking for +300 mil with the most basic of services. I didn't travel 2000 thousand miles to pay $90 for a boring fuck that probably won't even get me off. Centro girls are mostly ugly with maybe a few that are worth doing but the attitude is very rushed from my experience, same with casa girls.

Facebook has been alright. 60% of the girls don't bother responding even after reading the message. 20% just laugh in your face or act offended. I had a girl say "Con 150 ni me limpi el culo" after my 150 mil why taxi por dos leches offer and she was a solid 6. Of the 20% that actually accept the offer maybe 15% show up. Of the 15% that showed up 3 girls were truly worth the trip for me, not because of their looks (6-7), but because of their attitudes and sexual techniques.

All in all I released a lot of stores up leche and will probably try some other country next time..

Blakman
10-21-20, 08:39
From the looks of that pic. She's certainly not a hot girl. That fact you are a Brazil man surprises me of this visual you are presenting. Come better, show better, do better. Snapshot did a better jop than that. LOL


What? El Centro es peligroso? Lol. Ive been roaming there for about 20 years now and lets just say I enjoy the danger debate.
Its all cool and good, til its not, and thats just reality.

Anyway, heres a paisita that I met in Centro about a year ago, who in my book is pretty hot, that i keep in my stable of favoritas.
Sorry seor Blackman, but theyre out there for the skilled hunter, lol. However, youre right, most guys should stick to FB and Gustos, Parque Lleras, etc.. I miss being the only gringo out there, jeje.

I enjoy the hunt in all the venues, but I'm an original Centro rat at heart..

Nounce
10-21-20, 09:54
I cannot debate your response. It all makes sense. I am just one voice of many offering a perspective. We agree to disagree without anymosity.I don't disagree with you, and I have learned a lot from your posts. I think the girls are fine but the rooms in El Centro can be disgusting. LOL. On the few times I used the ones that are outside of the plaza, the girl and I always tiptoed if we took showers. Who knows what's on the floor. We chased after the 1 clean towel after sex, I won of course. There are rooms with a big window hole on the door that everyone can peek inside. These are rooms that I probably won't go the second times.

I owe my knowledge to Pollo Negro. He showed me the rope, and sometimes I spent a lot of time hung out with him in the park. I don't think I will have the same experience if I stay elsewhere and just visit El Centro for a few laps.

Nounce
10-21-20, 10:37
but not a 9 or a 10. And I have seen just a couple around. Where are these girls? Do they exist? Maybe some casas? Time is kicking, I need to fuck a princess. Help me guys.Have you tried Gusto? Some have reported that seeing 1 or 2 there. Another place is La Isla.

PolloNegro
10-21-20, 12:47
Its your money, Its your time, spend it how you see fit. From my observation, you can not find 9-10's when all you are looking for are 18-20 yr olds, skinny, European looking chics. They have not developed enough in Medellin, you haven't given them enough time to mature. Maybe you have tricked yourself into believing that just because 18 yrs old is legal, that the girl's body has fully matured, well it hasn't.

I am going to post another post soon about a friend of mine's who just left and the trip he had here, it was a different point of view and we both has an excellent time. Truth is many of the mongers who I have met, other than Nounce and Vsebudeny, only wanted girls that met the South East Asian body type and that is very rare in Colombia. Many of these Colombian women are very curvy and have nice huge butts, so if you want a 85 lb 4 foot 8 inch tall chica at age 18, you may want to try Thailand.

Then again if you want only 9 & 10's you may want to try the casa's and the agencies, many of my monger friends have told me that the Casa's have some pretty nice looking chicas on hand from time to time. The almost sure way to find the 9 & 10's is to bring more money, hit up the whatsapp groups and have the group send you photos and tell them if the girl doesn't match the photo you will send her back. Pollo Negro is out!

Tomcat 88
10-21-20, 14:19
Excellent extra-large condoms may be purchased from dozen GuiaCereza shops scattered around Medellin. German-made Vitalis XL in black box with green trim. 8000 pesos for 3.57 x 190 mm.

Villainy
10-21-20, 14:20
I was quoted 250 by Erika. I thought that was high, but she told me that she isn't working and hasn't for over a year.

However, another member at Villainy reported that he has seen her a couple of months ago, so maybe she didn't like my vibe.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1747990672024923&set=a.111695268987813&type=3&theater

I like something about her. So I might see if we can't negotiate.

TR.Well that is interesting. I just checked my WhatsApp and I saw her and the very end of June. I didn't pay 250. If I remember correctly it was 200 + 1 taxi. I like Erika and she's affectionate enough.

But once you've finished she is ready to take a shower and get dressed and leave. So she isn't the cuddle-bunny afterwards that some guys like. But she does provide a very good date.

By the way, how is your Spanish? I've had some girls ask me how well I speak Spanish and I tell them that I'm learning but can speak a fair amount. They then tell me it isn't fun for them to see someone who is tied.

To a translator and they won't accept those dates unless they really 'have to'.

Elvis 2008
10-21-20, 16:30
All the 8+ (and sometimes even the ugly ones) are asking for +300 mil with the most basic of services. I didn't travel 2000 thousand miles to pay $90 for a boring fuck that probably won't even get me off. Centro girls are mostly ugly with maybe a few that are worth doing but the attitude is very rushed from my experience, same with casa girls.I agree with you and Frank. Thank God we have some honest posters here. By the time, you add up the cost of the flight, the time, the hotel, and the PCR test, I would say Brazil is a better value in terms of looks and performance, and you do not need a PCR test.

There are also a lot of Colombian and Venezuelan women in Mexico. To make up the difference in cost, you would have to do at least five to ten women before you could even compare the cost of the two because Mexico is that much cheaper. Quite frankly, many of the adventurous and smart Colombian and Venezuelan women do go to Mexico.

The hit rate I had from seeking.com was great in Colombia and it was best in Medellin although Cali sure is intriguing to me. I was getting two dates a day there when I was trolling for women and the women on seeking.com I met were hot. I did bareback with half of them, but they were expecting between $80 and $100. Some guys here were bitching about what I paid but we live in different universes.

Half the women I saw had Iphones, and the other half had decent Android phones. I remember college tuition being like $5000 to 10,000 per year, and of the two chicas who worked, one was making $6000 per year and the other $9000 per year. I do not see these women fucking some stranger for $20.

For that price, you are going to get the Venezuelans who cannot work and the druggies.

I like to think that I am not a lodging snob but some of these places are gross beyond belief: the smell, the paper think walls, the beds are uncomfortable as hell and often are terrible for fucking. I stayed a night at the Sheraton Four Points in Medellin and it was like $50 a night and a nice place. I hooked up with one of my women there and had a good time but I registered her in advance. The hotel was super anal about Covid and the only way you would get an unregistered guest in there was paying another $50 for a hotel room. I didn't pay it here, but I racked up $200 in guest fees on this trip to boot.

Sure, I could have gotten an Uber, gone to a love motel, and had her meet me there, but I had done that before, and it is a pain in the ass. First off, I am on vacation, and secondly inevitably there will be something I forgot to bring from my hotel.

If you are going to be there for 1 month, and you have a chance to scope things out: find a place where you can bring back multiple women, lay the groundwork of finding great women who eventually want to fuck you for nothing then there are few places better.

The sugar thing worked for me, but I would not recommend it to guys who prefer variety. Maybe it will come back, but a one week trip to bang a bunch of cheap strange is not really that cheap or that great. I found most of the women giving up for cheap to be ugly or disgusting.

Luminus
10-21-20, 17:09
In women. I think she looks delicious and would scoop her up if I saw her in Centro.

Also wanted to say that one mans 6-7 is another mans 9-10. In that latest Gustos video the only thing I liked was the short one in the heels and the pleated short skirt standing back on to the bar.

But to each their own and you like what you like!!


From the looks of that pic. She's certainly not a hot girl. That fact you are a Brazil man surprises me of this visual you are presenting. Come better, show better, do better. Snapshot did a better jop than that. LOL

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Luminus
10-21-20, 17:13
Does anyone have a link to check Cedula's, like they use at some of the hotels?

I had one earlier but it's not working now, I have a few cedula numbers from some girls and just wanted to check if their info was legit.

Knowledge
10-21-20, 17:51
Be advised it does not account for "shared" or "borrowed" cedulas:

https://wsr.registraduria.gov.co/Consultas-cedulas.html


Does anyone have a link to check Cedula's, like they use at some of the hotels?

I had one earlier but it's not working now, I have a few cedula numbers from some girls and just wanted to check if their info was legit.

MarquisdeSade1
10-21-20, 18:24
I had over 60 girls and only 4 was in the 7 to 8 range. 1 was at 220 k, 2 was at 150 k and another at a casa was for 100 k special. Lleras parque club, gusto club, maybe walking in lleras park or hooking up with a girl that has some top of the line group of friends. You see a few non pros walking who are stunners. Grocery store excetera. But I think Dominican republic has Colombia beat as far as accessible girls. Threesomes are easier in Colombia and the girls are easy to get along with and in my case great performers. You will not see an 7 or 8 in Centro. I do not care what any monger reports LOL..I have bought into the hype a few times, people like Sjobs that writes MDE is "heaven on earth."

I went to Moscow after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.

I went to FKK after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.

I suspect the best places to monger, are well kept secrets.

I don't like the idea of banging chicas that have 10 customers a day.

Mongers fighting for sloppy 10 the like pigs at the trough ala HK in Tijuana LOL.

Tierra Del Fuego anyone?

Osteoknot
10-21-20, 18:44
I'd say some of my Centro girls were certainly at least 7's but YMMV.And I don't care what her ass looks like, she's past that point.

One of best looking girls I ever saw anywhere ever was in Parque Botero. I couldn't go fuck her at that moment like she wanted, or was it she did not have a cedula (I don't remember)? She gave me her number but we never hooked up. She did not look or act like a pro, more like a girl in a pinch needing some money in hurry.

The girl in the top right foto, in the back. I fucked her jajaja or at least a girl who looks exactly like her. My very first post here, the Wassap transcript, that's her, I am 96.5435% sure, jajajaja.

Posts with lots of fotos of girls. Good, need more or that.

Mr Enternational
10-21-20, 20:30
I have bought into the hype a few times, people like Sjobs that writes MDE is "heaven on earth."

I went to Moscow after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.

I went to FKK after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.

I suspect the best places to monger, are well kept secrets.What is it that you are looking for? To be the only guy in the city with chicks groveling all over you? That place does not exist. FKKs and Medellin are great. There are tons of friendly women that are easily accessible at an affordable price. Some people could not have a good time if you dropped them in the middle of it. There are no secrets. There is no secret tribe of virgin women waiting deep in the Amazon for you and only those you invite. Most mongers understand that hoes are for everybody and shared amongst the community.


I don't like the idea of banging chicas that have 10 customers a day.Sounds like you are trying to be selfish and keep the hooker to yourself. Easy to know how many customers she bangs per day. Pay her for the entire day so you can be the only one. It is a service. How would they support themselves with you being the only customer? Who cares how many houses the maid has cleaned in a day or how many tires Pep Boy has changed in a day. Throw her in the shower and brush her teeth and gargle with mouthwash and she is good as new. Or this may not be the hobby for you.

Blakman
10-21-20, 20:32
I could be wrong but most girls are only getting like 1 to 2 rounds a day. Except for casas and centro maybe. But I don't see alot of traffic flowing through casas. Its actually quite discrete. Transportation plays a role, setting up babysitters, traffic. And other possible dynamics. I like the city though. Its progressive with roads and technology.


I have bought into the hype a few times, people like Sjobs that writes MDE is "heaven on earth."

I went to Moscow after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.

I went to FKK after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.

I suspect the best places to monger, are well kept secrets.

I don't like the idea of banging chicas that have 10 customers a day.

Mongers fighting for sloppy 10 the like pigs at the trough ala HK in Tijuana LOL.

Tierra Del Fuego anyone?.

MarquisdeSade1
10-21-20, 20:53
What is it that you are looking for? To be the only guy in the city with chicks groveling all over you? That place does not exist. FKKs and Medellin are great. There are tons of friendly women that are easily accessible at an affordable price. Some people could not have a good time if you dropped them in the middle of it. There are no secrets. There is no secret tribe of virgin women waiting deep in the Amazon for you and only those you invite. Most mongers understand that hoes are for everybody and shared amongst the community.

Sounds like you are trying to be selfish and keep the hooker to yourself. Easy to know how many customers she bangs per day. Pay her for the entire day so you can be the only one. It is a service. How would they support themselves with you being the only customer? Who cares how many houses the maid has cleaned in a day or how many tires Pep Boy has changed in a day. Throw her in the shower and brush her teeth and gargle with mouthwash and she is good as new. Or this may not be the hobby for you.O trust me I know how to have a good time, I fly to Thailand to visit a friend that lives in Pattaya (I never made it to Pattaya), I landed in BKK and wound up staying 60 days until I legally could fuck no more, so I decided to go to Manila for a quick 24 HR visa run, and wound up staying 120 nites and probably did at least 120 different girls (keep a hooker for myself WUT?) LOL, but I will say the best places are not the high traffic monger hubs for those that like shooting fish in the barrel, but are small town strip clubs all over the USA Mexico Canada.

Who cares how many houses the maid has cleaned in a day or how many tires Pep Boy has changed in a day.

Really this is the analogy you want to use? LOL.

I like putas that aren't dripping jizz from every orifice and pubes between their teeth, I don't use escorts anymore but when I used to, I was the 1st customer of the day or I didn't use them that day.

They started outcalls at 10 a and stopped at 10 p, if I couldn't book the girl I wanted for 10 am, I wouldn't do any that day, I don't know how many mongers rather be 10th rather than 1st?

You think that's being selfish? Seriously? Ok you go last every time, great noble one! LMAO.

TomJackin
10-21-20, 21:12
Throw her in the shower and brush her teeth and gargle with mouthwash and she is good as new. Damn you Mr. E, I just spit-up my tasty beverage!:D

Just Incognito
10-21-20, 21:41
Overrated? You must be talking about a different Colombia. Either that or your rating system is all messed up.

For $25 a night I get a 2 bed, 2 bath apartment with a great balcony, in a safe and quiet, upscale neighborhood.

Everyone has their preference. If you feel Colombia is overrated, find me a place which exceeds it in all the important categories.I'm on board with everything that was in this post and I totally agree-that's why MDE works for me. But, I got to ask about the 2 bed 2 bath apartment / balcony for 25 a night. Safe etc. Where? And how did you find that? Security in the building? In normal times I am in MDE 3-4 times a year-I have never found that type of deal-unless you are strictly referencing something you got on like a 1 year lease or something. I am a shot term guy for now. Hopefully in 1-3 years I am able to start spending 1/2 my year in MDE.

JjBee62
10-21-20, 21:45
Its your money, Its your time, spend it how you see fit. From my observation, you can not find 9-10's when all you are looking for are 18-20 yr olds, skinny, European looking chics. They have not developed enough in Medellin, you haven't given them enough time to mature. Maybe you have tricked yourself into believing that just because 18 yrs old is legal, that the girl's body has fully matured, well it hasn't.

I am going to post another post soon about a friend of mine's who just left and the trip he had here, it was a different point of view and we both has an excellent time. Truth is many of the mongers who I have met, other than Nounce and Vsebudeny, only wanted girls that met the South East Asian body type and that is very rare in Colombia. Many of these Colombian women are very curvy and have nice huge butts, so if you want a 85 lb 4 foot 8 inch tall chica at age 18, you may want to try Thailand.

Then again if you want only 9 & 10's you may want to try the casa's and the agencies, many of my monger friends have told me that the Casa's have some pretty nice looking chicas on hand from time to time. The almost sure way to find the 9 & 10's is to bring more money, hit up the whatsapp groups and have the group send you photos and tell them if the girl doesn't match the photo you will send her back. Pollo Negro is out!There's some solid truth there. Some of these girls I've been watching for over 3 years and watched a lot of cute 18's turn into hot 21's. Although I've also seen a few who went downhill.

If you think things are better somewhere else, why go to Colombia and complain. Go to wherever your type of girls can be found.

Member #4665
10-21-20, 21:56
The girl ask for the guys what's up number on seeking then contacts him. Funny part she sends a picture through WhatsApp that does not correspond to her seeking profile. So the guy asks where did we meet she says seekiing the guy ask what is your profile name on seeking she provides a random profile name that doesn't correspond to her name on seeking. The guy goes back to the seeking application to ask The girl for Her number To see if it matches with the what app number and now he receives no reply. He tells the girl on what's app goodbye and havve a nice day. The girl asked so are you interested? And then leaves the chat. Standard escort webpage bait and switch scam arrives seeking. Brilliant (sarcasm).

What a strange world people want to find friendship love and sex but not before filtering all these scammers.

Another scammer repeatedly refused to verify her identity through video call. She used pictures of a very good-looking woman A 10 and had an Instagram account and insisted on selling photos for 50,000 pesos. She says she can't the video call because she has no Wi-Fi and only cell phone data but that doesn't stop her from asking for money even though the guy insists he can give her a present but only in persoon. Why send money to a 50-year-old man pretending to be a woman? Before leaving she says men are just too poor to buy photos. Honestly her comment was not taken as challenge. The scammer was so smart she said "my profile is obviously not fake I have an Instagram account " okay, whatever that means.

The 3rd scam has occurred 3 times already. Both times Coincidentally the profile Had pictures of a woman that looked way too European compared to the rest of the profiles. After all, South America isn't located in the European continent. These profiles just find it impossible to prove their identity. However there is actually one girl that commes from Europe on seeking that's been living in Colombia for a few years.

That is the scam report of the day.

Besides that, successful dates Arranged with 4 women For the end of the year. Also a few contacts for the future.

These scammers are just wasting everyone's time trying to steal money. And they are so dumb they probably couldn't even steal a lollipop From an 8-year-old.

Be kind generous and respectful but never drop your guard always looking for the "smart" scammer that pretends to be trustworthy.

Have a good day, and until that day keep your ear to the grindstone gentlemen. And May the church always be separate from the state. As it has been for centuries. May your balls hang low And your Mannshaft fly strong. May you always do for others and let others do for you.

JjBee62
10-21-20, 22:25
I have bought into the hype a few times, people like Sjobs that writes MDE is "heaven on earth."

I went to Moscow after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.

I went to FKK after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.

I suspect the best places to monger, are well kept secrets.

I don't like the idea of banging chicas that have 10 customers a day.

Mongers fighting for sloppy 10 the like pigs at the trough ala HK in Tijuana LOL.

Tierra Del Fuego anyone?Can you clear up my confusion?

You don't want anyone to overpay. You don't want anyone to buy pictures or videos. You want women who don't see multiple guys each day. Did I get that right?

The girls who are accepting the lowest price are the ones seeing the most customers. The ones who aren't selling pictures and videos need to ride more dick than the ones selling content.

If you want to be a girl's only customer of the day, find one of the 200 k+ girls. If you treat her right, she'll stay 3 hours or more.

Your expectations don't seem reasonable. No wonder you are disappointed everywhere you go.

DramaFree11
10-21-20, 23:06
I have bought into the hype a few times, people like Sjobs that writes MDE is "heaven on earth."

I went to Moscow after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.

I went to FKK after someone told me how great it was, it wasn't.

I suspect the best places to monger, are well kept secrets.

I don't like the idea of banging chicas that have 10 customers a day.

Mongers fighting for sloppy 10 the like pigs at the trough ala HK in Tijuana LOL.

Tierra Del Fuego anyone?I can understand why you might not like MDE, but both Moscow and FKK are great. You have to try not to have fun in Moscow it is that good, if you have any skill at all and decent budget. Russia is just not that expensive at the moment.

Incrociatore
10-22-20, 00:15
I can say I'm an happy monger. The chica with fake boobs and ass, got back to me accepting my offer of 200 k (taxi included), for 2 hours and BBBJ. I didn't compromise and the day after she sent me a message. And today I had 2 hours an half round, plus 40/50 minutes of talk and shit, with the girl I met and fucked en el centro. IMHO she is an 8. She is small doll, with a pretty face, good teeth, very nice ass, and I love the way she kisses. I would date a girl like this in my country. BBBJ included, all for 100 k + 6000 of taxi from my place to the metro. And tomorrow I will see her again, we'll go to visit a place together and then I will have a good time for two hours at my place. For 100. Where else in the world? Not in Europe for sure!

And I have others to try, but I want to focus on the very good looking ones. I'm tired of mediocre experiences with girls I could potentially have for free. I want to fuck at least 2 very hot girls. The nurse can be one of them, but I have 3 more in the radar. I will do my best to justify this expensive trip, and the next month, maybe it will be Africa.

MarquisdeSade1
10-22-20, 01:01
Can you clear up my confusion?

You don't want anyone to overpay. You don't want anyone to buy pictures or videos. You want women who don't see multiple guys each day. Did I get that right?

The girls who are accepting the lowest price are the ones seeing the most customers. The ones who aren't selling pictures and videos need to ride more dick than the ones selling content.

If you want to be a girl's only customer of the day, find one of the 200 k+ girls. If you treat her right, she'll stay 3 hours or more.

Your expectations don't seem reasonable. No wonder you are disappointed everywhere you go.I don't want to overpay for anything, why would anyone? A fool and his money soon part! Jaja.

I can't recall saying anything about photos or video, but does anyone really want that? I prefer monger unionization organization myself.

When did I say I want to be the only customer?

Expectations ahhhhhhhhhhhh therein lies my dilemma.

When I went to FKK and bboi told me to bring 100000 Euros, my expectations spiked and I was disappointed.

When Jake told me to go to Moscow I was disappointed.

BM chimed in that MDE is overrated, well I can say many places are, like HK in Tijuana young boys standing in line to get into a brothel to see their 1st naked woman.

I've been mongering for almost 40 yrs and the best places I can ever remember were never on ISG.

I have worked with several Vietnam vets over the yrs that all told me very similar tales of glory in BKK in the 60's.

I guess that is the Shangri La I am searching for.

When PN says those searching for thin girls should instead go to SEA, I consider scrapping my MDE plans.

But my thinking is that can't all be overweight? I rather jack off to porn for free than pay to have sex with a puta with a higher BMI than myself.

MarquisdeSade1
10-22-20, 01:14
I can understand why you might not like MDE, but both Moscow and FKK are great. You have to try not to have fun in Moscow it is that good, if you have any skill at all and decent budget. Russia is just not that expensive at the moment.I think FKK blows, the format is a nice idea, but in action, it just doesn't work for me.

The condom rules are a real deal breaker, I rather watch porn for free.

Moscow is an amazingly beautiful city, it left me speechless, difficult to put in words, especially around Christmas with the light snow and Christmas lights around the Bolshoi.

But it was incredibly cold, and I spent most of my life in Chicago. It is very very difficult to monger, I speak zero Russian, finding anyone that speaks English there.

Is like finding a needle in a haystack (except for a few strip club workers or hotels), I love the people more than anywhere in the world with all my heart (and I am Deustch LOL), but the putas are a different story, the sex was good.

But I believe many have ice water in their veins, so it is very very cold and I don't know your finances but I doubt anyone would disagree that pussy is very very expensive.

Getting around is very hard sitting in a Yandex for an hour to go 1 mile is no fun, maybe the worst traffic I've ever seen besides manila.

I don't smoke or drink so it was a tough city for me.

My last day I made it to Sanduny and had some caviar whilst waiting to catch my flight, it is definitely my favorite city in the universe!

Forever18
10-22-20, 02:32
I agree with you and Frank. Thank God we have some honest posters here. By the time, you add up the cost of the flight, the time, the hotel, and the PCR test, I would say Brazil is a better value in terms of looks and performance, and you do not need a PCR test.

There are also a lot of Colombian and Venezuelan women in Mexico. To make up the difference in cost, you would have to do at least five to ten women before you could even compare the cost of the two because Mexico is that much cheaper. Quite frankly, many of the adventurous and smart Colombian and Venezuelan women do go to Mexico.

The hit rate I had from seeking.com was great in Colombia and it was best in Medellin although Cali sure is intriguing to me. I was getting two dates a day there when I was trolling for women and the women on seeking.com I met were hot. I did bareback with half of them, but they were expecting between $80 and $100. Some guys here were bitching about what I paid but we live in different universes..Is Sheraton four points hotel okay with you bringing a different girl each time?

Blakman
10-22-20, 02:41
These chicks have learned they can get money without meeting you. With jjbee paying for pics and video then why should she want to meet you. Now words spread this is what you can do without leaving your house now every chica wants to attempt to do it. Either the pics and video or a sad story to get money without meeting you. How this came about well a guy one day decided to pay a girl for pics and videos so the lightbulb turn on and here we are 80% of chicks just get on line to really seek money without activity. There goes the neighbor. Jjbee please no response about you jumping in the dumpster please.


The girl ask for the guys what's up number on seeking then contacts him. Funny part she sends a picture through WhatsApp that does not correspond to her seeking profile. So the guy asks where did we meet she says seekiing the guy ask what is your profile name on seeking she provides a random profile name that doesn't correspond to her name on seeking. The guy goes back to the seeking application to ask The girl for Her number To see if it matches with the what app number and now he receives no reply. He tells the girl on what's app goodbye and havve a nice day. The girl asked so are you interested? And then leaves the chat. Standard escort webpage bait and switch scam arrives seeking. Brilliant (sarcasm).

What a strange world people want to find friendship love and sex but not before filtering all these scammers.

Another scammer repeatedly refused to verify her identity through video call. She used pictures of a very good-looking woman A 10 and had an Instagram account and insisted on selling photos for 50,000 pesos. She says she can't the video call because she has no Wi-Fi and only cell phone data but that doesn't stop her from asking for money even though the guy insists he can give her a present but only in persoon. Why send money to a 50-year-old man pretending to be a woman? Before leaving she says men are just too poor to buy photos. Honestly her comment was not taken as challenge. The scammer was so smart she said "my profile is obviously not fake I have an Instagram account " okay, whatever that means.

The 3rd scam has occurred 3 times already. Both times Coincidentally the profile Had pictures of a woman that looked way too European compared to the rest of the profiles. After all, South America isn't located in the European continent. These profiles just find it impossible to prove their identity. However there is actually one girl that commes from Europe on seeking that's been living in Colombia for a few years.

That is the scam report of the day.

Besides that, successful dates Arranged with 4 women For the end of the year. Also a few contacts for the future.

These scammers are just wasting everyone's time trying to steal money. And they are so dumb they probably couldn't even steal a lollipop From an 8-year-old.

Be kind generous and respectful but never drop your guard always looking for the "smart" scammer that pretends to be trustworthy.

Have a good day, and until that day keep your ear to the grindstone gentlemen. And May the church always be separate from the state. As it has been for centuries. May your balls hang low And your Mannshaft fly strong. May you always do for others and let others do for you..

Surfer500
10-22-20, 03:35
These chicks have learned they can get money without meeting you. With jjbee paying for pics and video then why should she want to meet you. Now words spread this is what you can do without leaving your house now every chica wants to attempt to do it. Either the pics and video or a sad story to get money without meeting you. How this came about well a guy one day decided to pay a girl for pics and videos so the lightbulb turn on and here we are 80% of chicks just get on line to really seek money without activity. There goes the neighbor. Jjbee please no response about you jumping in the dumpster please..I've kinda been following these posts about paying Chicas for pics and videos. I just can't ever imagine paying a Chica for something like this. I guess now with the Pandemic we are becoming a "virtual world". I'll just stick to "dumpster diving", and god forbid if I were yo encounter Jbee2 there.

And Blakman, if it hasn't already happened, your about to get a good spanking!

Incrociatore
10-22-20, 04:47
I could be wrong but most girls are only getting like 1 to 2 rounds a day. Except for casas and centro maybe. But I don't see alot of traffic flowing through casas. Its actually quite discrete. Transportation plays a role, setting up babysitters, traffic. And other possible dynamics. I like the city though. Its progressive with roads and technology.Depends. I visited a prepagos and I was the 5th client. She asked me 130 for BBBJ, one hour. For another one, I was the one and only in the day. For the one I'm meeting tomorrow evening I'm the only one, since she works as nurse and doesn't do this as a job. She meets me tomorrow because it's her day off. Another that works en El Centro told me she does, generally, 4 clients a day. Some are so ugly that I wonder if they make a single client. I think some days a girl can make 3 or even 5 and some days she doesn't do not even one. Some girls ask a lot of money and maybe they don't work all days. But when they do they make 3 or 5 times a colleague, and they are happy like that. I used to date a Brazilian escort, and she could do from 1 to 5 clients a day.

Wolf662
10-22-20, 04:50
And I don't care what her ass looks like, she's past that point.

One of best looking girls I ever saw anywhere ever was in Parque Botero. I couldn't go fuck her at that moment like she wanted, or was it she did not have a cedula (I don't remember)? She gave me her number but we never hooked up. She did not look or act like a pro, more like a girl in a pinch needing some money in hurry.

The girl in the top right foto, in the back. I fucked her jajaja or at least a girl who looks exactly like her. My very first post here, the Wassap transcript, that's her, I am 96.5435% sure, jajajaja.

Posts with lots of fotos of girls. Good, need more or that.Tanya worked at Conejitas and was cute from the back also IMO, the top right in the purple floral dress is Dulce from Conejitas also, that's also her lower right in purple shirt too.

MMHikeus
10-22-20, 04:51
Anyone know if it is worth staying in Medellin between Christmas eve and New Year. Are most of the chickas going to be with their families? Trying to gauge the level of mongering activity in quality and quantity in that period. Thanks.

Incrociatore
10-22-20, 04:51
These chicks have learned they can get money without meeting you. With jjbee paying for pics and video then why should she want to meet you. Now words spread this is what you can do without leaving your house now every chica wants to attempt to do it. Either the pics and video or a sad story to get money without meeting you. How this came about well a guy one day decided to pay a girl for pics and videos so the lightbulb turn on and here we are 80% of chicks just get on line to really seek money without activity. There goes the neighbor. Jjbee please no response about you jumping in the dumpster please.If people pay for pictures and videos, we will all end up jerking off. Don't buy anything from girls. Do not pay for dinners, do not buy pictures or videos, do not subscribe on Patreon, Onlyfans or even Twitch. Do not give these girls money for nothing. How can a monger do that?

Iguana Six
10-22-20, 05:06
Excellent extra-large condoms may be purchased from dozen GuiaCereza shops scattered around Medellin. German-made Vitalis XL in black box with green trim. 8000 pesos for 3.57 x 190 mm.Obtain FC-1 Female Condoms by Reality, Inc. Before you go.

Once you switch, you will not go back.

Balboa
10-22-20, 05:30
From the looks of that pic. She's certainly not a hot girl. That fact you are a Brazil man surprises me of this visual you are presenting. Come better, show better, do better. Snapshot did a better jop than that. LOL

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Is it just me or has this Medellin forum gone a little cockcooo? Lol

JjBee62
10-22-20, 05:47
I'm on board with everything that was in this post and I totally agree-that's why MDE works for me. But, I got to ask about the 2 bed 2 bath apartment / balcony for 25 a night. Safe etc. Where? And how did you find that? Security in the building? In normal times I am in MDE 3-4 times a year-I have never found that type of deal-unless you are strictly referencing something you got on like a 1 year lease or something. I am a shot term guy for now. Hopefully in 1-3 years I am able to start spending 1/2 my year in MDE.I found it through knowing a specific area. Hit me in PM and I'll divulge the info.

JjBee62
10-22-20, 06:35
These chicks have learned they can get money without meeting you. With jjbee paying for pics and video then why should she want to meet you. Now words spread this is what you can do without leaving your house now every chica wants to attempt to do it. Either the pics and video or a sad story to get money without meeting you. How this came about well a guy one day decided to pay a girl for pics and videos so the lightbulb turn on and here we are 80% of chicks just get on line to really seek money without activity. There goes the neighbor. Jjbee please no response about you jumping in the dumpster please..I actually delivered food to restaurants for a few years. I got to see all the kitchens. You don't want to think about how many bugs, mice and even rats I saw. And that was in the US. Just imagine how much worse a restaurant in Colombia has to be before it gets shut down.

Buen provecho.

I'm literally the biggest influencer in Colombia. Somehow I managed to convince women to ask gringos to send them money at least 10 years before I ever talked to anyone in Colombia. There are how many? 100,000 prostitutes in Colombia? And you're telling me that 80 k of them are basing everything they do on what they think I want? I need to start my own clothing line.

Sorry man, but I can't take all the credit. I especially can't take the credit for the scam he described, because that one is worldwide and at least 20 years old. Every now and then I'll toy with one of them. They're pretty easy to figure out. I'll let the guy keep talking, sending teaser pics and I'll say something like "I prefer to send at least $100. " Had one just a few days ago. Some guy (pretending to be a girl) hitting me on Messenger out of the blue. Within 5 minutes I could tell it was a scam. So I played along and then went dark. Didn't read any messages, just let them pile up for 10 hours before blocking the account.

I wish I had the power you think I have. But, I seriously doubt every hooker in Colombia is basing her actions on me.

BTW, every time you call me out, I'll have another story that will make you nauseous.

JjBee62
10-22-20, 06:40
I've kinda been following these posts about paying Chicas for pics and videos. I just can't ever imagine paying a Chica for something like this. I guess now with the Pandemic we are becoming a "virtual world". I'll just stick to "dumpster diving", and god forbid if I were yo encounter Jbee2 there.

And Blakman, if it hasn't already happened, your about to get a good spanking!If you're there when I'm there, you'll almost certainly see me while you're dumpster diving. I have to do 3 or 4 laps around El Centro to reconnect with the city.

There's no need to spank Blakman, besides he might enjoy it too much. It's much easier to just torture his weak stomach.

JjBee62
10-22-20, 06:44
Anyone know if it is worth staying in Medellin between Christmas eve and New Year. Are most of the chickas going to be with their families? Trying to gauge the level of mongering activity in quality and quantity in that period. Thanks.Mongering activity, in a normal year, is low, but there's still options available. You might have to lower your expectations a bit. Christmas Eve and Day will be tough.

JjBee62
10-22-20, 07:02
If people pay for pictures and videos, we will all end up jerking off. Don't buy anything from girls. Do not pay for dinners, do not buy pictures or videos, do not subscribe on Patreon, Onlyfans or even Twitch. Do not give these girls money for nothing. How can a monger do that?It's easy. A monger can do it because a monger doesn't let anyone else tell him how to spend his time or money. If all mongers let other people decide what is right for them to do, there would be no mongers.

Let's add to your list of things no monger should ever do:

Never go to any club or strip club with a cover charge, when looking for girls.

Never buy anything in any bar where you've gone to find girls, if the price is higher than the price available in a bar where there are no girls.

Never buy any condoms except for the cheapest brand. Never buy lube. Never buy any type of sex toy.

Never pay a girl extra for anal, BBBJ, BBFS, multiple shots, multiple hours or TLN.

Never pay extra to take pics and videos.

If a girl agrees to a price for an hour, but you blow your load after 3 minutes, only pay her 5% of the agreed price.

Never pay a girl for sex. She fucks other guys for free. Why should you pay?

See how quickly it gets really stupid when you decide you get to make the rules for everyone?

I actually stopped buying videos when international flights resumed, but all of the crying has convinced me I should start again. Don't worry, I'll be selective. Any girl who asks me to buy videos, I'll tell her I'll only buy them if she can show me that some gringo refused to pay her at least 150 k + taxi.

JjBee62
10-22-20, 07:04
Is it just me or has this Medellin forum gone a little cockcooo? LolA little? When I signed in today I had to fill in a form with my measurements for a strait jacket.

Blakman
10-22-20, 09:42
Do I play hardball, do I compromise, or do I fold to a female I see as very impressive and spend. I text my 8 I have no money and I am coming soon. She says I want you to have lots of sex with me LOL. She's been getting treated very well lately based on her status and trip out the country. I repeated. I have no money. I cannot pay alot. She said well do you love me LOL. I didn't know what to say cause I am not a good liar. So I said I need to see you first. She stop texting LOL


I've kinda been following these posts about paying Chicas for pics and videos. I just can't ever imagine paying a Chica for something like this. I guess now with the Pandemic we are becoming a "virtual world". I'll just stick to "dumpster diving", and god forbid if I were yo encounter Jbee2 there.

And Blakman, if it hasn't already happened, your about to get a good spanking!.

Black Page
10-22-20, 12:25
Is Sheraton four points hotel okay with you bringing a different girl each time?DEFINITELY NOT.

It was said many times already: in Colombia, and Medellin is no exception, hotels just above the basic level of decency are NOT girl friendly. Never. Forget it. Nada.

Go to a motel with your girls (search the topic and you will find an encyclopedia here), or rent an apartment if you really like have guests in your headquarters.

Four Points is my place when I go to MDE. I feel at home. The only time I brought a girl there (invited from another city to spend 3 days with me in Medellin), I had to leave her name the day before to the registration desk as my novia. I paid the extra for double occupancy. The night I tried to bring back a nice girl met in a club to stay with me, I was asked to pay exactly one full night fee as extra. We moved to Ibiza. This happened several years ago. I was told explicitely by the receptionist (with whom I had some confidence) that the management does it on purpose to strictly avoid to see any "casual guest" in their hotel.

Knowledge
10-22-20, 13:36
How can a monger do it? That is a reasonable question. The fact is it happens every day all day, for many years. Western Union and other cash transfer services thrive on it. It won't ruin the game for the rest of us. If there was danger of that, it would have happened many years ago.


If people pay for pictures and videos, we will all end up jerking off. Don't buy anything from girls. Do not pay for dinners, do not buy pictures or videos, do not subscribe on Patreon, Onlyfans or even Twitch. Do not give these girls money for nothing. How can a monger do that?

Knowledge
10-22-20, 13:37
It is a symptom of acute blue balls.


Is it just me or has this Medellin forum gone a little cockcooo? Lol

Just Incognito
10-22-20, 13:50
DEFINITELY NOT.

It was said many times already: in Colombia, and Medellin is no exception, hotels just above the basic level of decency are NOT girl friendly. Never. Forget it. Nada.That is not accurate. Many, many, many nice hotels will allow you to bring back a girl with her cedula being registered at the desk. Several will not charge during the day, and will only charge at night if the girl stays after 9 or 10 pm and its usually 25-40 bucks depending on the property.

Affinity in Poblado, Estelar Blue, Florencia Plaza, Dan Carlton, Hotel Poblado Plaza, Casa Portico, to name a few in Poblado. None are roach motels, all are decent to very nice.

Art Hotel Boutique costs like 150 bucks a night and they let you bring chicas back to your place-but I am not paying that much for a Medellin hotel LOL.

The Charlee and the Marriott allow ladies back to the rooms--but they charge more than I want to pay to stay in Medellin. I haven't stayed at most of these places, I have stayed at some on this list. The ones I haven't stayed at I have verified through friends or emails to them in the past. Dan Carlton I walked by once, walked in and told them I was considering them for a future stay -I was shown a room and given their chica policy when I asked about bringing my friends back to the room to hang out-about 5 years ago this was. And the rule was registered girls in the day is fine, after 8 or 9? Pm it was an additional 40 US or so.

In Laureles, Hotel Dorado La 70 is one my buddy stayed at and was able to bring girls back-its near Estadio Metro If I remember correctly. And he said it was pretty nice--though, like most Medellin hotels--could be a bit loud from outside traffic and other noise.

Forever18
10-22-20, 14:09
DEFINITELY NOT.

It was said many times already: in Colombia, and Medellin is no exception, hotels just above the basic level of decency are NOT girl friendly. Never. Forget it. Nada.

Go to a motel with your girls (search the topic and you will find an encyclopedia here), or rent an apartment if you really like have guests in your headquarters.

Four Points is my place when I go to MDE. I feel at home. The only time I brought a girl there (invited from another city to spend 3 days with me in Medellin), I had to leave her name the day before to the registration desk as my novia. I paid the extra for double occupancy. The night I tried to bring back a nice girl met in a club to stay with me, I was asked to pay exactly one full night fee as extra. We moved to Ibiza. This happened several years ago. I was told explicitely by the receptionist (with whom I had some confidence) that the management does it on purpose to strictly avoid to see any "casual guest" in their hotel.Thanks, good to know.

Forever18
10-22-20, 14:12
I saw this report about happy ending massage places in Medellin. https://girlsheavens.com/happy-ending-massage-in-medellin/.

Can someone verify it's legit and which massage place they would recommend?

Gringo Trooper
10-22-20, 14:22
Anyone know if it is worth staying in Medellin between Christmas eve and New Year. Are most of the chickas going to be with their families? Trying to gauge the level of mongering activity in quality and quantity in that period. Thanks.You will be fine and the chicas will be available. Monger away.

That's usually the time period when I travel to Colombia, due to time off from work.

Yes, a portion will be with their family on Christmas. Just find the girls without families that day, LOL.

Give Leidy Baron (Instagram) a call, her family doesn't speak to her, unfortunately.

PolloNegro
10-22-20, 14:28
October 10- October 17th.

Just recently I had a young friend of mines who came to Medellin for a short stay. This is about his 7th trip here. He is a different kind of guy and his main objective is having fun, regardless of cost. I can tell you that he used an agency that has girls in a Whatsapp group and every one of his girls arrived on time and looked really nice, better than nice, in my book they were all 8's and up!

Every day, this young thundercat had no less than 3 chics come through his upscale apartment in Poblado. The guards recognized me and never gave me a hassle, even when I brought 3 chics from Centro out to the apartment. No one ever complained about us playing music, chilling, relaxing and cooking, while enjoying the girls.

This guy was the kind of guy who knew what he wanted and spared no expense. This guy never complained about price and told me that he had been stuck in America for 8 months without being able to return to Colombia and he just wanted to unwind with all the extra cash from bonuses he received while travel was restricted. I can also tell you that this guy was on a million to a million and a half pesos a day budget.

If you do not have the kind of budget that this guy had, then you will probably not see the kind of girls this guy was dating. He truly had 8's, 9's, 10's. This guy did not try and undershoot the girls or bargain, they gave a price, he paid it, we partied!

We had the nice big bottles of Tequila and Grey Goose, this young guy did not spare anything, even when I suggested that he could do things on a much cheaper budget, he insisted that he only had a week to play and did not want to haggle around with prices or look for girls in the street. This guy knew what he wanted and most of all he just really wanted to unwind and have everything at his command and I salute him for that because not once did he ever complain about money, not once.

I can tell you this, watching this young man enjoy himself really gave me a different perspective on mongering and the outcome of what each monger wants, which will be individual for each monger. I came with a plan to survive regardless of how long I had to be in Medellin. My friend came on a one week trip and achieved everything he wanted to achieve. He even booked an apartment for his return in December, he will be staying 3 months on that trip. Took me a few days to rest up from all of the partying with him but this is just a review of the great weak he and I had with all of the girls in Poblado. Pollo Negro is out!

Villainy
10-22-20, 14:36
These chicks have learned they can get money without meeting you. With jjbee paying for pics and video then why should she want to meet you. Now words spread this is what you can do without leaving your house now every chica wants to attempt to do it. Either the pics and video or a sad story to get money without meeting you. How this came about well a guy one day decided to pay a girl for pics and videos so the lightbulb turn on and here we are 80% of chicks just get on line to really seek money without activity. There goes the neighbor. Jjbee please no response about you jumping in the dumpster please.
If people pay for pictures and videos, we will all end up jerking off. Don't buy anything from girls. Do not pay for dinners, do not buy pictures or videos, do not subscribe on Patreon, Onlyfans or even Twitch. Do not give these girls money for nothing. How can a monger do that?Oh my God! Where do you guys come from? Have you ever had a girl pitch you for photos and / or videos? I've heard the pitch they usually are trying to get 25 mil maybe a little more because they know they can't get more than that. That might cover food for a few days. You really think girls are going to stop hooking if they can get a few 25 mil sales? And you think that is going to completely kill the marketplace for personal encounters?

I almost never buy pics and videos and if I want one or the other I usually tell the girl ahead of time and for a reasonable tip during our session most will let me take photos or videos. But, since reading these kind of completely out of reality based comments, I'm going to set aside $100 (US dollars) a month for the next 3 months solely for the purpose of purchasing some photo and videos. At less than 50 mil each I should be able to buy at least 7 sets of photos / videos from girls a month. We'll take a look at the end of 3 months and see if all the hookers are closing shop.

Member #4665
10-22-20, 15:53
I agree with you and Frank. Thank God we have some honest posters here. Elvis has spoken the truth.

Surfer500
10-22-20, 15:58
Anyone know if it is worth staying in Medellin between Christmas eve and New Year. Are most of the chickas going to be with their families? Trying to gauge the level of mongering activity in quality and quantity in that period. Thanks.Not a good time to monger in Medellin, very slow with families together. If there was no Pandemic, Thailand would be the place to be!

Knowledge
10-22-20, 16:04
This is correct.


DEFINITELY NOT.

It was said many times already: in Colombia, and Medellin is no exception, hotels just above the basic level of decency are NOT girl friendly. Never. Forget it. Nada.

Go to a motel with your girls (search the topic and you will find an encyclopedia here), or rent an apartment if you really like have guests in your headquarters.

Four Points is my place when I go to MDE. I feel at home. The only time I brought a girl there (invited from another city to spend 3 days with me in Medellin), I had to leave her name the day before to the registration desk as my novia. I paid the extra for double occupancy. The night I tried to bring back a nice girl met in a club to stay with me, I was asked to pay exactly one full night fee as extra. We moved to Ibiza. This happened several years ago. I was told explicitely by the receptionist (with whom I had some confidence) that the management does it on purpose to strictly avoid to see any "casual guest" in their hotel.

Knowledge
10-22-20, 16:08
I will divulge it here. You can find similar deals all over airbnb. As jaybee indicated, you need some knowledge of the neighborhoods to judge how well the locations fit your needs.


I found it through knowing a specific area. Hit me in PM and I'll divulge the info.

Luminus
10-22-20, 17:21
Of course you tell her you love her, you tell her you love her like you love no other (each chika is different and so your "love" for each one is different), not a lie and she feels special and you get a cheap or even free evening!

I see it as kinda like playing the same game as they play!


Do I play hardball, do I compromise, or do I fold to a female I see as very impressive and spend. I text my 8 I have no money and I am coming soon. She says I want you to have lots of sex with me LOL. She's been getting treated very well lately based on her status and trip out the country. I repeated. I have no money. I cannot pay alot. She said well do you love me LOL. I didn't know what to say cause I am not a good liar. So I said I need to see you first. She stop texting LOL

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Blakman
10-22-20, 18:01
That is what I should have said. I am afraid of a scorn woman so I try to be as honest as possible. Maybe I need to acquire that skill so I can be an elite mongerer LOL.


Of course you tell her you love her, you tell her you love her like you love no other (each chika is different and so your "love" for each one is different), not a lie and she feels special and you get a cheap or even free evening!

I see it as kinda like playing the same game as they play!.

SuperDan
10-22-20, 18:04
Hello all,

I am new here and just had some questions. I am going within the next few weeks and wanted to know if you all make these girls shower before doing anything with them? Trying to be clean and as safe as I can. Also, where can I find these WhatsApp groups some of you are referring to? Thanks a lot.

RacShack
10-22-20, 19:16
This is correct.The 4 times I've stayed in hotels in Medellin never once a problem 2 times art hotel, 2 times hotel Charlie! YMMV but just my experience, never once a jam up!

Neophaser
10-22-20, 19:56
Hi there,

Hopefully I can come to Medellin next year. I started to learn some Spanish and want to continue when I am finally here.

My motivation is higher, when my teacher is an attractive woman. You know anyone who gives private lessons and does not mind a flirt (or more)?

Sandymnn
10-22-20, 20:14
Anyone know if it is worth staying in Medellin between Christmas eve and New Year. Are most of the chickas going to be with their families? Trying to gauge the level of mongering activity in quality and quantity in that period. Thanks.The weeks before Christmas are great, with a lot of ladies working to accumulate a bit of Christmas cash. After Christmas, they mostly stay home with family.

Elvis 2008
10-22-20, 20:39
When PN says those searching for thin girls should instead go to SEA, I consider scrapping my MDE plans.

But my thinking is that can't all be overweight? I rather jack off to porn for free than pay to have sex with a puta with a higher BMI than myself.True story. I was at a strip club once and this attractive Latina had me guess where she was from. I told her to turn around, looked at her ass which was broad compared to the rest of her body and said, "Colombia", and she said I was right.

Unlike the song, I do not like big butts. Still, I have found the women with more European ancestry but have the thinner asses I like better. Of the seven women I saw in Colombia, and I like the thinner girls PN was speaking of, three had European asses and four had the classic Colombian ones.

None of the women were over 125 lbs and none had waist lines over 26 inches. I did not measure but I am scary good at guessing these things.

No doubt the thinner women with European asses are harder to find than the curvy ones, but they are there. Between MDE and Bogota, I have probably been with 20 women with the European asses.

Wolf662
10-22-20, 20:46
When PN says those searching for thin girls should instead go to SEA, I consider scrapping my MDE plans.

But my thinking is that can't all be overweight? I rather jack off to porn for free than pay to have sex with a puta with a higher BMI than myself.No, of course not, I love flacas and there are plenty to be had. Everything from $10 little skinny street to chicks that are close to nines and 10's to me like Estrella and Allison from the higher end strip club Fase Dos.

JjBee62
10-22-20, 21:50
I saw this report about happy ending massage places in Medellin. https://girlsheavens.com/happy-ending-massage-in-medellin/.

Can someone verify it's legit and which massage place they would recommend?Here's my report from 15 months ago.


After writing up some of the massage places, I decided a massage sounded like a good idea. Took a long walk, stopped for some lunch and eventually hopped on a bus towards Poblado. My original plan was to visit OM Spa for Men, but the door was locked and nobody answered my WhatsApp message until 2 hours passed.

In the Rio Sur mall there are 3 massage places. OM Spa has already been mentioned, it's on the 4th floor. On the 3rd floor is.

El Garage Spa for Men

Carrera 43 A #6 Sur-26 suite 310...You could also try the Jade Palace near Parque Lleras. Full service is available.

There are also a few girls who have massage businesses on Facebook.

JjBee62
10-22-20, 22:17
October 10- October 17th.

Just recently I had a young friend of mines who came to Medellin for a short stay. This is about his 7th trip here. He is a different kind of guy and his main objective is having fun, regardless of cost. I can tell you that he used an agency that has girls in a Whatsapp group and every one of his girls arrived on time and looked really nice, better than nice, in my book they were all 8's and up!

Every day, this young thundercat had no less than 3 chics come through his upscale apartment in Poblado. The guards recognized me and never gave me a hassle, even when I brought 3 chics from Centro out to the apartment. No one ever complained about us playing music, chilling, relaxing and cooking, while enjoying the girls.

This guy was the kind of guy who knew what he wanted and spared no expense. This guy never complained about price and told me that he had been stuck in America for 8 months without being able to return to Colombia and he just wanted to unwind with all the extra cash from bonuses he received while travel was restricted.It does my poor, old heart good to see this. Progress is made and through experience we all grow a little wiser.

It's not where you stay, how much you pay, how hard you negotiate or how many girls you squeeze in. It's, at the end of the day, standing back, looking at it all and being able to say "damn that felt good."

Too much effort is wasted trying to follow in another monger's footsteps, or trying to gain their approval. Find your comfort zone. Find the experiences that fit both your budget and your personality.

Blakman
10-22-20, 23:00
Casas and their chicas are very clean. The house or apartment are quite well kept. As a matter of fact they may request you shower with them. Most girls that visit you at the apartment come very fresh even though they may lack perfume. The younger ones are more casual. Dress or jeans with sneakers. Only my 8 comes dolled up but she's 32. The rest over 18 under 25 was just casual so maybe that had to do with my selections. Majority of the time the girls will request to take a shower just to enjoy a better shower. This is casa and apartment advice. For centro info check with surfer the dumpster diving centro king. He will tell you everything you want to know about them girls LOL. But on the low. They different LOL


Hello all,

I am new here and just had some questions. I am going within the next few weeks and wanted to know if you all make these girls shower before doing anything with them? Trying to be clean and as safe as I can. Also, where can I find these WhatsApp groups some of you are referring to? Thanks a lot..

Surfer500
10-22-20, 23:19
Hello all,

I am new here and just had some questions. I am going within the next few weeks and wanted to know if you all make these girls shower before doing anything with them? Trying to be clean and as safe as I can.Kinda depends on what you intend on doing with them, one of our recent posters who doesn't "dumpster dive" likes licking ass. Others like dining at the "why" so if your into eating pussy or licking girl's behinds it might not be a bad idea to have them shower and even douche, but I wouldn't be gargling with their douche water unless your into that.

All kidding aside, besides the women taking showers which I recommend 100% of the time, you should shower as well and let the Chica see you washing your junk. I say this as a Chica will hopefully be more enthusiastic about giving you a blow job, especially if it is uncovered.

Osteoknot
10-22-20, 23:26
I can say I'm an happy monger. The chica with fake boobs and ass, got back to me accepting my offer of 200 k (taxi included), for 2 hours and BBBJ. I didn't compromise and the day after she sent me a message. And today I had 2 hours an half round, plus 40/50 minutes of talk and shit, with the girl I met and fucked en el centro. IMHO she is an 8. She is small doll, with a pretty face, good teeth, very nice ass, and I love the way she kisses. I would date a girl like this in my country. BBBJ included, all for 100 k + 6000 of taxi from my place to the metro. And tomorrow I will see her again, we'll go to visit a place together and then I will have a good time for two hours at my place. For 100. Where else in the world? Not in Europe for sure!

And I have others to try, but I want to focus on the very good looking ones. I'm tired of mediocre experiences with girls I could potentially have for free. I want to fuck at least 2 very hot girls. The nurse can be one of them, but I have 3 more in the radar. I will do my best to justify this expensive trip, and the next month, maybe it will be Africa.RN stands for "Ready Now" and they have no hang-ups about human orifices or bodily functions, jajjajjajaa.

BlackCowboy
10-22-20, 23:28
Your friend is a true "Weekend Millionaire". Some cats don't understand the difference between living somewhere and just visiting for a weekend. If you are just there for a weekend your time is worth more than gold. No time to dumpster dive.


October 10- October 17th.

Just recently I had a young friend of mines who came to Medellin for a short stay. This is about his 7th trip here. He is a different kind of guy and his main objective is having fun, regardless of cost. I can tell you that he used an agency that has girls in a Whatsapp group and every one of his girls arrived on time and looked really nice, better than nice, in my book they were all 8's and up!

Every day, this young thundercat had no less than 3 chics come through his upscale apartment in Poblado. The guards recognized me and never gave me a hassle, even when I brought 3 chics from Centro out to the apartment. No one ever complained about us playing music, chilling, relaxing and cooking, while enjoying the girls.

This guy was the kind of guy who knew what he wanted and spared no expense. This guy never complained about price and told me that he had been stuck in America for 8 months without being able to return to Colombia and he just wanted to unwind with all the extra cash from bonuses he received while travel was restricted. I can also tell you that this guy was on a million to a million and a half pesos a day budget.

BlackCowboy
10-22-20, 23:33
Just a quick question for anyone currently in Medellin. I plan to travel to Medellin in the coming weeks. Are the Casas open? I could not find any recent report on here to confirm. If they are open, are they taking any precautions (temperature checks, etc.)? Any help in answering my questions are appreciated.

Combo
10-22-20, 23:50
Anyone know if it is worth staying in Medellin between Christmas eve and New Year. Are most of the chickas going to be with their families? Trying to gauge the level of mongering activity in quality and quantity in that period. Thanks.If you're going to be in Colombia between Christmas and New Year, I highly recommend traveling a bit farther southwest to Cali. That week is the absolute best time in Cali because of the Feria de Cali. It is a fantastic event, a bit like Carnaval in Rio. The chicas are in the mood to fuck (including non-pros if you're reasonably young and good-looking). I imagine the Covid stuff might lesson the intensity, but they are having it this year from what I'm told. If you like Salsa music and dance, it's even more of a must-see.

Medellin will be dead. Though if you already have connections (from previous visits), you should be able to arrange hook-ups.

MMHikeus
10-23-20, 00:25
If you're going to be in Colombia between Christmas and New Year, I highly recommend traveling a bit farther southwest to Cali. That week is the absolute best time in Cali because of the Feria de Cali. It is a fantastic event, a bit like Carnaval in Rio. The chicas are in the mood to fuck (including non-pros if you're reasonably young and good-looking). I imagine the Covid stuff might lesson the intensity, but they are having it this year from what I'm told. If you like Salsa music and dance, it's even more of a must-see.

Medellin will be dead. Though if you already have connections (from previous visits), you should be able to arrange hook-ups.Cool, never been to Cali. If possible I will check it out.

Incrociatore
10-23-20, 00:32
October 10- October 17th.

Just recently I had a young friend of mines who came to Medellin for a short stay. This is about his 7th trip here. He is a different kind of guy and his main objective is having fun, regardless of cost. I can tell you that he used an agency that has girls in a Whatsapp group and every one of his girls arrived on time and looked really nice, better than nice, in my book they were all 8's and up!

Every day, this young thundercat had no less than 3 chics come through his upscale apartment in Poblado. The guards recognized me and never gave me a hassle, even when I brought 3 chics from Centro out to the apartment. No one ever complained about us playing music, chilling, relaxing and cooking, while enjoying the girls.Can you share the contact of one girl who is in this group? She must have a link on Internet somewhere, right? Am I asking too much?

Blakman
10-23-20, 00:53
Ding ding ding. Coming out swinging and Hitting below the belt. Taking a cheap shot. Honestly I do not like licking ass. But thisvery hygenic 8, legit 8 maybe a 7, who sloppy toppy, wears sexy lingerie, cook for me, charged me 300 k for a week, strip dance on my table and was always ready for sex, records us having sex, shakes her nice booty in front of your face. Hey the freak comes out. And I licked that freshly washed ass. I think its call passionate sex. I hope I explain myself well. Blakman out LOL


Kinda depends on what you intend on doing with them, one of our recent posters who doesn't "dumpster dive" likes licking ass. Others like dining at the "why" so if your into eating pussy or licking girl's behinds it might not be a bad idea to have them shower and even douche, but I wouldn't be gargling with their douche water unless your into that.

All kidding aside, besides the women taking showers which I recommend 100% of the time, you should shower as well and let the Chica see you washing your junk. I say this as a Chica will hopefully be more enthusiastic about giving you a blow job, especially if it is uncovered..